we nuke EVERYTHING TODAY ( !starforge ! gamersupps ) #D3 #WeWantDestiny3

Aztecross

06-17-2026 · 6h 23m

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[00:05:26] How we doing today guys?

[00:05:27] How we doing?

[00:05:28] I know you've probably seen some news we ain't going quietly man that's all I could say

[00:05:42] We ain't going quietly!

[00:06:12] All right, I have a bill that I really wanted to play with and I want to see how strong

[00:06:32] it is.

[00:06:33] Now, let me ask you something.

[00:06:35] eggplant bats here do you think we can solo onslaught you think we could do it

[00:06:45] you think we can make it happen you think we you think we got it eggplant

[00:06:55] bat on this guys eggplant bat is it a real build it's a real it's really

[00:07:03] enough? What kind of question is that? What do you mean? Is it real? What are you insinuating?

[00:07:11] What do you mean by build? What do you mean by real? What are you saying right now? And

[00:07:27] What's that supposed to mean?

[00:07:32] I did.

[00:07:36] But look, just go along with it, okay?

[00:07:41] And we're gonna fuck around with this build.

[00:07:42] I claim back this shit.

[00:07:43] And then we're gonna talk about the news in just a moment.

[00:07:45] Don't look at the news right now.

[00:07:47] Just keep looking at me.

[00:07:50] Just keep looking at me.

[00:07:51] We're going to go in here and we're going to talk about it in just a second.

[00:07:59] We'll talk about it in just a second, okay?

[00:08:02] Don't worry about any of that stuff right now.

[00:08:07] Life is beautiful.

[00:08:09] Life is beautiful.

[00:08:10] Show the artifact, but don't worry about it.

[00:08:13] Don't worry about it.

[00:08:14] The details don't matter.

[00:08:15] I'm going to put that on, I don't know what else I need to put on.

[00:08:23] I'm actually really curious to see how this is going to work.

[00:08:27] It may be, maybe, ah, it's actually, I don't know, I don't know.

[00:08:35] on class fonts Reaper proxying class again I got some I don't even think I need any

[00:08:51] of this I don't even think I need any of this but here's what I'll do I'll do stacks

[00:08:58] other stacks I'll do, I'll do that I will also do, um, yeah, we'll throw in some resist

[00:09:10] mods, I'll do a charge up mod, I'll do, I'll do double charge up and then I'll do, I'll

[00:09:22] do this mod this mod yeah and then I'll do

[00:09:36] chunky super chunky dude okay this regard the the drip right now drip could

[00:09:50] be better chat we'll talk about it just a second okay right now right now we're

[00:09:54] gonna we're gonna get in here we're gonna fuck around and I have a great

[00:09:59] time today dude and then we'll we'll talk about some stuff in just a second

[00:10:04] okay I promise I promise

[00:10:09] It's really my only weapons

[00:10:20] Do I even need any other I don't even think I need any other weapons be honest with you

[00:10:28] We've got eggplant bed on this perfect. Where is where is Corio?

[00:10:34] Is that a pinnacle not Corio oh

[00:10:37] I got Grandmaster on I got overload and unstoppable champions

[00:10:47] Why wouldn't anyone ever customize it in this?

[00:11:15] That's the match made type all let's do ultimates ultimates here just ultimate just raw ultimate

[00:11:36] How about that?

[00:11:41] Combined power of 500.

[00:11:46] Yeah, we're gonna try this.

[00:11:57] Barrier on stop overload.

[00:12:00] Okay, so I'm good.

[00:12:01] I'm good across the board.

[00:12:03] I think I could do Chad this firepower work for Dremmings

[00:12:33] of

[00:12:53] I'll take a look at everything in a second.

[00:13:18] God dog it dude, God dog it.

[00:13:24] The ammo.

[00:13:27] The idea here is we'll get stacks and then we'll just, we'll let it just keep doing its thing.

[00:13:48] Am I able to get more than one?

[00:14:14] Not that there's so much damage.

[00:14:41] Oh my lord!

[00:15:11] Because the only way I can get more than one is to bomb on the actual strand sub-clots.

[00:15:18] I got a new mineshaft going on.

[00:15:23] Damn.

[00:15:24] Look at that.

[00:15:25] Let's see if I can do some.

[00:15:28] Because...

[00:15:29] Yeah.

[00:15:30] I may have to do that then I may restart the trunk is massive yeah I'm doing

[00:15:50] death row with it though let me keep doing let me keep running this oh my

[00:16:04] god dude

[00:16:06] Jack, that throws does amp up the damage of threatening, right?

[00:16:30] Only the grenade ports?

[00:16:31] Yeah, but I'm throwing my grenade.

[00:16:33] I got the bow around right now.

[00:16:34] I'm throwing my grenade a lot.

[00:16:44] He's going to be so weird going back to our normal builds next week.

[00:16:55] We're going to try the boss, the wave team boss.

[00:16:57] I feel like we can instant nuke.

[00:17:04] Some of us are probably a better option.

[00:17:09] Ah, it's not really the unraveling I'm meeting right now.

[00:17:15] I got apotheosis and verity, which I feel like a really good combination for this.

[00:17:56] Oh my god, he just knew that.

[00:18:11] Did that not cast it?

[00:18:18] Because the Pateos is not rocking right now, what's going on?

[00:18:33] I

[00:18:40] Miss I get the wrong am I the wrong artifact mono or the wrong

[00:18:50] What's happening what what am I gonna go?

[00:18:55] What's happened?

[00:19:03] He does that?

[00:19:10] What do you mean he does that?

[00:19:19] No, no, no, I have the artifact done.

[00:19:26] I feel like I have my builders not working right now, though.

[00:19:32] or pausing bugs.

[00:19:39] The Dreadnought kills in pieces?

[00:19:41] Oh, does it really?

[00:19:59] You got to be honest, you got to be honest.

[00:20:06] You super did that?

[00:20:09] of

[00:20:24] I think I just respawned them twice.

[00:20:44] We're like such a brain-dead class.

[00:20:53] We're about to see if we can nuke the balls here like really fast.

[00:20:58] I'm actually really curious if that's how it's going to work.

[00:21:06] I can vouch for this gamecrasher.

[00:21:09] Bailiness with the tune gifted subs!

[00:21:18] Bailiness, thank you so much for the big tin chat.

[00:21:19] Please drop some love and eggplants right now for Bailiness.

[00:21:23] Nests now mature over time. Fulmin' turn nests can be harvested.

[00:21:26] I don't feel like the tango was really that good.

[00:21:28] Or the catalyst wasn't that really good.

[00:21:30] You didn't even get the tango out of it.

[00:22:09] Jack, did I have to rally in order to get my, um, get my Super World of Balls here?

[00:22:33] I don't know if I got any rallys, actually.

[00:22:36] I'm embarrassed to make that sound.

[00:22:51] Good for you. Oh, okay.

[00:23:06] Oh, it's after Gator. All right, all right! Let's see how fast I can nuke him or not.

[00:23:35] Oh my god!

[00:23:43] Need to storm his axe, people.

[00:23:56] We're back!

[00:23:58] I don't think threatlings are working on our dismay.

[00:24:05] I think I think I think a couple chaos rages can meet our guests. Oh, they do

[00:24:17] So show me some clips guys, I'm gonna do

[00:24:22] I think chaos rich get daft and then come to our guest

[00:24:31] Do we have an anarchy checkpoints

[00:24:35] YNAGEE WITH THE TWENTY GIFTISTS!

[00:24:49] YNAGEE, you come in here, you throw it down, you drop twenty gifts and subs this morning

[00:24:57] champ for the love of god, I need to see some eggplants for this man, by the way, YNAGEE,

[00:25:02] Do you want to pay at the arm runs? Let me know man.

[00:25:21] Oh my god.

[00:25:23] Oh my god, I even messed up here, dude.

[00:25:36] Oh my god.

[00:25:38] Dude, these bosses are so fucking deep too.

[00:25:43] This is insane.

[00:25:47] If you wanted my man, we got you brother. We got you

[00:25:54] I mean edge friends are right now with cascade Bayden switch

[00:26:00] My god, this used to be the shit. Remember was it was it the MV a swap off you get envious on it?

[00:26:07] Palladrome

[00:26:09] No DFA tier three and a hothead oh

[00:26:25] why India's assassin impact case audit

[00:26:29] or aggregate is it good chat is it

[00:26:38] Good. Where's Hezins Vindus is the best.

[00:26:48] Nice roll. Well, you can upgrade it guys. You can upgrade. You can upgrade the tears, man.

[00:26:55] Savorable. Met him. Hezins will forever be the met him.

[00:27:01] Yeah, I might keep this.

[00:27:04] All right. Um...

[00:27:08] Dude, let's go nuke some bosses.

[00:27:20] I am I'm so down for this.

[00:27:23] Let's nuke some bosses.

[00:27:26] I really think I think Geomax would really cook right now.

[00:27:33] If you are, if you got some cheesy shit, feel free to join up.

[00:27:39] We're about the nukes and bosses.

[00:27:41] Warframe at the 18 minutes.

[00:27:44] Nice, man.

[00:27:45] Nice.

[00:27:46] I'm going to be on this for a little bit, but we'll be looking at Warframe later.

[00:27:52] much love to my Warframe community.

[00:28:03] The sniper meditation stack would not, not to this capacity, again, it's all about the

[00:28:09] tier.

[00:28:10] The sniper's meditation is on the final two tier, you know, on that tier three, so it's

[00:28:15] not as good.

[00:28:17] So they're Geomax.

[00:28:21] Actually, let's go nuke the, um, let's nuke the balls.

[00:28:31] Let's go nuke Spires balls real quick.

[00:28:36] I need to get some good drops from this anyways.

[00:28:43] If you want spy or join a bombing.

[00:28:52] I think I might be able to solo it.

[00:29:03] Throw that in there.

[00:29:06] Marks so.

[00:29:08] Actually, we need to do this, let's cross.

[00:29:22] Allian.

[00:29:38] I mean the threatening does it too, but I think we could just do it very easily with

[00:29:44] It's literally our supers.

[00:30:10] I think I've been saving the checkpoint here.

[00:30:12] Oh, my shit's on invite only I you guys can join up on me

[00:30:18] We're gonna go. We're gonna go knock out

[00:30:21] Let's go do a run inspired. Oh

[00:30:23] shit

[00:30:25] Let's do let's do master

[00:30:29] So let's first say stasis surge

[00:30:32] No, no, let's just do master because we get two drops

[00:30:37] Actually three drops

[00:30:40] And I have a checkpoints, but I need to trade off the checkpoints

[00:30:46] Hey after Tuesday, no no no refund the bet. I'm not gonna say no. I'm not gonna say they're any long

[00:30:58] Let's see

[00:31:01] Probably tractor

[00:31:09] You don't get more from Master of Dots?

[00:31:13] It says on the menu you do.

[00:31:15] You not get more?

[00:31:18] Somebody look into that.

[00:31:28] No, you get tier 5's before that dark.

[00:31:34] Yeah, it's all about your score, my man.

[00:31:40] Yeah, you're good dude. I don't know at what level do you start to get to your fives chat?

[00:31:56] By 20

[00:32:01] Guys if you're looking for spy runs joined up my man my fire team is open

[00:32:09] We are looking to cook this boss.

[00:32:30] I will need a trade off check points up.

[00:32:46] I don't have you.

[00:32:48] Mom, we really need to get the subs in here into the plan.

[00:32:55] That way they can just join straight up.

[00:32:57] We need to go there and just boot out anyone that's not active and then get everyone else

[00:33:03] in here.

[00:33:04] Who would like to join right now?

[00:33:05] Okay, nevermind.

[00:33:06] Oh, that was.

[00:33:07] Pan this, I'm gonna come right back.

[00:33:12] Let me get on my other, let me get on my hunter so I can get the checkpoints.

[00:33:23] I joined the clan.

[00:33:25] I think we have to make room though, guys.

[00:33:36] Shit, I hope it loads them in the right spots.

[00:33:38] Buren brad asked you the stuff that you did you my clan is a graveyard

[00:34:00] Got to make a new one, my man.

[00:34:07] Why don't you game with the original clan you started?

[00:34:11] Well, we started, we've had a lot of clans over the years, bud.

[00:34:20] So which one are you referring to?

[00:34:23] Or are you talking about like final act back in the D1 days?

[00:34:33] Prima was never my original clan.

[00:34:38] that was TTG.

[00:34:57] We're gonna look at

[00:35:12] Hi guys, I think we have a spot open we're gonna trade this checkpoints

[00:35:27] You're going to be doing random Friday of destiny.

[00:35:39] Oh yeah, I'm sure I'm sure.

[00:35:42] Were you guys getting 50% of bunches getting laid off?

[00:35:44] It's been circulating on Twitter.

[00:35:46] But I think all this, all tasks is also backing it up.

[00:35:50] It doesn't look good guys.

[00:35:55] We'll take a look in a second.

[00:36:04] What in the world is this drip brother?

[00:36:25] Oh fuck yeah. Hell yeah.

[00:36:37] Alright, who would like to join? I can send you an invite right now. Somebody wants to

[00:36:44] drop their name. We have spots open. Rob Zillers already joined us, never mind.

[00:36:52] I just do the mechanics like we normally do and I will run up tractor cannon and then

[00:36:59] pop my super and I think I might go to do enough damage just me to kill the boss but

[00:37:06] But I don't know.

[00:37:07] No, you're not going to do enough damage.

[00:37:23] Oh, that's a great equipment.

[00:37:25] Will we one phase on Master?

[00:37:26] How about that?

[00:37:28] Will we one phase on Master?

[00:37:31] Noggy with that 20 get-tossers!

[00:37:42] Kid with that 10 get-tossers!

[00:37:48] Ah, dammit, fellas, ah, dammit.

[00:37:52] Chad, please show some love for your Noggy,

[00:37:54] who's already get the 40 people in here

[00:37:55] subscription this morning.

[00:37:56] Hey, kid, thank you for the 10 as well, my man.

[00:38:00] to kind brother to kind

[00:38:02] you know i i i just went and be a big man and i i will say to my top gifters

[00:38:07] i really needed it

[00:38:08] you obviously flagged me down mods flagged me down

[00:38:11] because of the misdany and others need to be vip

[00:38:14] thousand percent

[00:38:18] what are you doing

[00:38:21] panelists what are you doing right now

[00:38:30] Would anyone like to join us?

[00:38:35] My PC crashed?

[00:38:36] Oh, okay, okay.

[00:38:45] Panless, you're betting against us, you're on my team.

[00:38:50] You're betting against, you're in my team right now,

[00:38:52] Panless, and you have a two next to your name.

[00:38:55] You're saying that we're not gonna build a one face.

[00:39:00] I need someone to take pan this pan this is spot right now. Do I have anyone that could take a spot? I

[00:39:06] Don't trust this shit. I don't I don't I don't trust it

[00:39:30] Pan this were you about to throw intentionally squirts with the 10 gifted

[00:39:40] sub's.

[00:39:46] God damn it squirt you come in here you drop the 10 gifted subs

[00:39:51] champion of the love of God show some love to squirt thank you so much for

[00:39:56] that, thank you, thank you.

[00:40:08] Oh man, there's been insider trading happening in this stream now, not me, but I'm gonna

[00:40:14] be honest, these mods, they sell us.

[00:40:20] Have you seen it yourself?

[00:40:26] Maybe rigging some bets?

[00:40:29] Yeah, I catch it out of the corner of my eye.

[00:40:31] I try to jump on it.

[00:40:32] Tsunami with a 20-gip deserves!

[00:40:45] Yum with a 10-gip deserves!

[00:40:50] The hell fellas what's happening this morning? What is going on? It's around the Wednesday right now

[00:40:57] They're gonna calm the hell down

[00:41:02] We're getting everybody in here

[00:41:05] Dude, thank you so much for the big tin gifted brother and tsunami with a massive 20. Thank you. Thank you, dude

[00:41:12] What in the fuck

[00:41:14] Go with the twenty gifted son main man's with the ten gifted

[00:41:30] Yeah, please drop some love and eggplants right now. Please drop some love and eggplants right now

[00:41:34] I let's see if we can get the one phase everybody

[00:41:37] Lot of you don't have

[00:41:39] With the 25 gift-ins-subs!

[00:41:43] What is going on in this-

[00:41:45] What the fuck is happening in this room right now?

[00:41:47] Scouts! Scouts broke on wild!

[00:41:50] With the 50 gift-ins-subs!

[00:41:59] I'm trying to do this fucking bus!

[00:42:09] Michael and J-mo also with the back to back team get this up. Can everybody calm the fuck down right now. Can everybody calm the fuck down.

[00:42:19] Everybody just chill. Just chill real quick.

[00:42:24] Hold on, hold on. I cannot be choosing to go. Hold on.

[00:42:30] come on, come on, don't be like that

[00:42:38] alright, hold on, hold on

[00:42:44] open the door, perfect

[00:42:52] I'll get this side

[00:42:56] go get guys go get dude

[00:43:12] hang in there boys hang in there y'all getting shit on I see I see y'all getting

[00:43:17] shit on here I'm coming back I'm coming back

[00:43:21] I got you, I got you, I got you.

[00:43:26] Okay, what in the fuck is happening?

[00:43:32] Happy feet with the team get to knock you to five.

[00:43:35] Jersey! With the 50 giftings!

[00:43:38] I got you! I got you! I got you!

[00:43:41] I need somebody to come to this street right now, scream for me!

[00:43:45] I've got a team with people that I'm not gonna say they're throwing,

[00:43:50] but

[00:43:56] You see for yourself right now. I got a look at this shit

[00:44:08] Please bring the balls over here bring the balls over here we go. There we go. There we go

[00:44:15] Jim Jim you fucking madman you the big dick it sucks. Holy shit

[00:44:20] What are you doing? What are you doing, Rob?

[00:44:31] Wait, hold on. What just happened? Is this not done?

[00:44:40] of

[00:44:47] the

[00:44:52] How did you die back there?

[00:45:21] That one does not count Jacks that does not count Rob fucked us and brandy killed himself

[00:45:38] No, no, no, no fucking does not count

[00:45:42] I'm down right now, hold on.

[00:45:49] No, it fucking does not.

[00:45:55] Rob and Brandon, you both are representing Xbox today.

[00:46:08] Quick fucking throne right now, or I will never buy an Xbox.

[00:46:15] Fuck, what are you fucking kidding me?

[00:46:18] Die.

[00:46:19] Die.

[00:46:20] Die.

[00:46:21] Die.

[00:46:22] Die.

[00:46:23] Die.

[00:46:24] Die.

[00:46:25] Die.

[00:46:26] Die.

[00:46:27] Die.

[00:46:28] Die.

[00:46:29] Die.

[00:46:30] Die.

[00:46:31] Die.

[00:46:32] Die.

[00:46:33] Die.

[00:46:34] Die.

[00:46:35] Die.

[00:46:36] Die.

[00:46:37] Look at the- look at the chat.

[00:46:38] Die.

[00:46:40] I can only tie, die so many times.

[00:46:43] Stop it for the love of God.

[00:46:45] Fucking die.

[00:46:47] Die.

[00:46:48] Go.

[00:46:50] Die.

[00:46:52] Xbox, turn off.

[00:46:56] Jesus Christ.

[00:47:05] Okay.

[00:47:06] We're ending with the 20 gift answers!

[00:47:14] All right, listen, listen.

[00:47:17] I want y'all to, I want y'all.

[00:47:21] Rob, you're super fucked us.

[00:47:23] Okay.

[00:47:25] You, I don't, I don't, I don't know.

[00:47:26] I, if you're teasing, it, it don't, it don't look like it, but you're super fucked us.

[00:47:31] Yeah, with the 1208 gift it serves as a very specific number!

[00:47:49] I need to see some eggplants in this frame.

[00:48:15] Danny, thank you so much for the 128 get this up.

[00:48:24] My venture, Danny, is VIPs and the two motherfuckers soon right now.

[00:48:30] By the way, we need to be doing runs with people today.

[00:48:34] If we were to do runs with something, what do people want more of?

[00:48:37] They want, they want, um, oh shit, I don't know, do they want more pants?

[00:48:45] Get the on!

[00:49:03] I don't know.

[00:49:04] I'm gonna just assume my Xbox voice here have never done this dungeon and that is completely

[00:49:19] fine.

[00:49:20] Oh, hey, Axon got it started, you know that?

[00:49:24] What the fuck is this shit?

[00:49:38] There you go, fellas, there you go.

[00:49:50] the hell is happening right now we should be good

[00:50:01] we're ending with a 20 get this oh shit

[00:50:10] yeah please drop some love in that cleanse right now for revving also for

[00:50:14] mr. Danny also for mr. doomsie thank you thank you guys

[00:50:20] very nice very nice that's what we love to see right there

[00:50:34] Come on. Pay that shit out. Pay that shit out. That's Master Man. That's crazy, dude.

[00:50:47] That shit is crazy. Everybody gonna get their grind down this week.

[00:50:55] Chatted, let's ever actually do this build. Like, did he ever do any of this yesterday

[00:51:00] or is he still like being miserable about shit.

[00:51:06] Which is fine.

[00:51:08] I'm not hating.

[00:51:09] I'm back as I'm kinda hating.

[00:51:12] Doom with the 10 gift answers!

[00:51:18] Dude, thank you so much for the big 10 chat.

[00:51:20] Please drop some love and eggplants right now.

[00:51:22] Oh, let's look at the damage.

[00:51:24] So here's the damage.

[00:51:26] Brandon did 49,000 damage.

[00:51:28] I did 44,000 Rob Rob. You just look pretty my man

[00:51:36] Rob just hit and look cute

[00:51:38] God is rating flux. Yes. Yes. God is accurate. Yes

[00:51:45] Yoshi with the digger

[00:51:51] Gober with the digger

[00:51:58] All right, let's do another, another.

[00:52:00] Yo, what's the build?

[00:52:06] Michael, we're just breaking the game, brother.

[00:52:09] There's no, let me show you an example.

[00:52:17] Join here.

[00:52:20] I'm about to show you how stupid this is.

[00:52:25] The build is cheese.

[00:52:27] DMG tweeted.

[00:52:30] What did Mr. DMG tweet?

[00:52:44] So from DMG right here,

[00:52:47] bugbarm, as we get into our last string of hotfixes,

[00:52:50] the team is trying to squash as many bugs as possible.

[00:52:53] You'll see some ability bug fixes next week

[00:52:55] and a slew of other things touch in a later update, but we are nearing the final delivery

[00:53:00] of patch notes.

[00:53:02] Some issues may not be addressed due to risk in Livon.

[00:53:06] Here's some of the questions we're asking ourselves in triage.

[00:53:09] As we process reports, could a potential fix break the game further?

[00:53:16] Can't take it.

[00:53:20] Could a change nerve enjoyment of the PvE game for the sake of balance?

[00:53:24] Could change nerf enjoyment of the PvE game for the sake of balance, Lyle won't take it

[00:53:29] unless it's egregious or trivializing billcrafting.

[00:53:34] As an example, truth is a bit too hot, leaning to a handful of guardians just standing around.

[00:53:42] It's shooting rockets without a thought in the world.

[00:53:46] No mods, no billcrafting, just top of raid bosses.

[00:53:50] get a tiny ammo backpack nerf in it, in to at least have folks worry about picking up

[00:53:55] some bricks during DPS, but we don't want to crater the thing.

[00:53:59] What if an harvest set looks a bit buggy while we hate some rough edges impacting your style?

[00:54:04] We may not be able to address it as a rush fix, could tarnish your looks even more.

[00:54:10] What if hunters are one-shotting opponents of BBB?

[00:54:12] Let's try to get that address ASAP, test it and release.

[00:54:15] What about the Titan bubble or the stackening, trivializing all of our in-game difficulty

[00:54:19] content?

[00:54:20] But folks have some fun, but get it patched up before final.

[00:54:23] SRA ties feels a bit frequent.

[00:54:25] Can we tune them?

[00:54:26] Well, if that breaks placements, do we have time to revert the change?

[00:54:30] What about a few months down the road?

[00:54:31] What if we regret making the change, change because it's leading to a worse experience

[00:54:36] with various connection qualities, leaving as is, four-way ties are a bit wonky, but

[00:54:41] kind of fun.

[00:54:42] Players don't like PVP modes and rotation.

[00:54:44] Can we change how often it appears likely not?

[00:54:46] may need it for triumphs, or we're seeing more players playing it than players vocally

[00:54:50] frustrated by it.

[00:54:51] It'll rotate out after a few days, leave it be.

[00:54:54] There are many, many conversations like these happening daily, teams doing everything they

[00:54:57] can to address your reports while setting up for the long haul.

[00:55:01] After our final patch, you may see back-end server maintenance for general upkeep,

[00:55:06] but any patch vehicle will be restricted to severe issues like widespread crashes.

[00:55:11] If you find not only crucible balance issues or one shot at the pantheon balls

[00:55:15] with the little investment bills will likely lean on disabling items, abilities or whatever

[00:55:18] the culprit is for the problem at hand. It's not the best solution, but we have the levers

[00:55:24] levers to keep things a bit stable. The finality of all of this is a bit rough to get into,

[00:55:31] but one is to set expectations appropriately. We are going to turn a blind eye to your reports,

[00:55:37] maybe limit it with what we can do, but we'll still try. Please do not hesitate to continue

[00:55:42] reporting issues to our health forums over on bungee.net. Thank you for all joining us

[00:55:47] for Monument of Trime. The team was overjoyed with seeing your reactions, videos,

[00:55:52] arts, stories, and love, and many have been loving the moments shared with you in-game.

[00:56:00] Not all of us are public-facing. Every so often you may have a D2 dev team member

[00:56:05] emoting you a hug or a heart after overcoming a rough nightfall boss,

[00:56:10] And you don't even know it's whether they're an employee or just community member show them some love with your favorite emote to

[00:56:16] Appreciate you always see you out there

[00:56:19] So what dmg is essentially saying right now is like they are they're going through everything right now just to make sure

[00:56:25] That the game is being left

[00:56:28] In a good place long term

[00:56:30] And a healthy place long term sandbox wise right and so there may be a few things that roll out

[00:56:37] Um

[00:56:40] And that's a difficult thing because destiny has never been I mean destiny won

[00:56:44] But let's be clear like this thing one was destiny was left in an okay place

[00:56:49] Sandbox wise, but like I mean you still have things like when it kills inside of cruise go all over the place

[00:56:56] but

[00:56:57] that was because

[00:56:59] If you wanted to play more destiny, you just want to play destiny too. This is this is it

[00:57:03] This is it for us

[00:57:05] And so they're trying to leave it in a in a healthy enough place

[00:57:09] place, because to be quite frank, the way things are looking outside of this month and

[00:57:19] maybe next month, there's going to be no one around on the bungee side to make any of these

[00:57:28] adjustments.

[00:57:29] I don't know if you guys have seen the news, um, but some stuff was shared around about.

[00:57:40] There was a post put out yesterday from, I guess, some, I think a French journalist

[00:58:00] or whatever said that, um, essentially what, what this, this Mario dude is posting right

[00:58:07] Now, I saw a post on Marathon Reddit saying that Sony is laying off half a budget that

[00:58:12] can hardly be true.

[00:58:13] Ken, it's, um, Paul says right here, I don't want to commit to it percent, but it's going

[00:58:19] to be significance.

[00:58:20] They don't have a green, they don't have a green light new project or green light new

[00:58:24] project and they can hardly throw 400 more developers on marathon.

[00:58:29] You also see some leadership OGs leave and I believe July, which is when Sony's deal

[00:58:34] cash vests for many of them.

[00:58:36] So pretty much what was said and what Jason Schreyer said when he said that significant

[00:58:46] layoffs are coming is that it seems like pretty much the entire Destiny team is going to get

[00:58:52] laid off, which is a lot of developers.

[00:59:10] Yeah, that's the bulletin new bungee is reportedly saying to lay off at least 50% of

[00:59:15] its workforce this summer around 400 employees following the end of

[00:59:18] Descent 2's live service development thoughts.

[00:59:48] The marathon really do this, you know, it's a combination of Sony, it's a combination

[01:00:05] of Bungie not reading internal goals that they said alongside Bungie years ago and a

[01:00:14] a big contributing factor to not meeting those internal goals were delays.

[01:00:22] You know, when, when, or when Bungie was reportedly working multiple incubation projects,

[01:00:30] the marathon was supposed to beta back in 2024 and potentially even release in 2024.

[01:00:38] It was definitely not supposed to release any later in the 2025 and it, it, it failed to

[01:00:43] 2026 and it's reception is not good.

[01:00:47] I didn't look, this is really not, not even me trying to shit on marathon.

[01:00:53] Um, it is not a success.

[01:00:58] And for my marathon, people that are like, you know, don't worry, marathon is still good.

[01:01:06] I don't think you guys are going to be too far behind us is what I'm saying because I just don't see

[01:01:15] anywhere in this universe where marathon can support 400 developers.

[01:01:24] So the math just doesn't make sense.

[01:01:36] There's a lot of games brother sitting at 80 80% I don't know what a steam reviews are

[01:01:47] but I know that Marathon's reviews are good guess what there's a lot of games out there

[01:01:51] guys that had that have good reviews. Hell final shape was the best rated expansion Bungie

[01:02:01] and destiny ever put out. It's like a 90-something on Metacritic. You know what followed that?

[01:02:08] Layoffs. You could be critically acclaimed, you could have fantastic reviews across the

[01:02:16] board, but if you're a live game or any game in general and you don't have enough people

[01:02:20] playing your game, you're not gonna be able to make your investment back. And that's

[01:02:26] That's what Sony's happen, happen right now.

[01:02:32] And the thing is, is like, I don't even know if Marathon is being kept alive because that's

[01:02:37] necessarily Sony putting fate in Marathon.

[01:02:41] Or if it's just because contractually they are tied to Marathon right now, or at least

[01:02:50] the, I don't know, I don't know.

[01:02:52] I'm curious to know what the best thing is for the marathon

[01:02:57] side of the, because they've got people that have been OGs that

[01:03:02] have been with Bungie for years on the marathon side.

[01:03:06] And so I'm curious to know if they just

[01:03:08] have an extra year on their contract, if you will,

[01:03:14] before you start seeing people dip on the marathon side.

[01:03:22] Oh, guys, you guys, and let me just say this, this is not just bungee specific.

[01:03:30] What is it?

[01:03:31] I think Xbox is closing down three studios.

[01:03:36] Multiple studios are getting out.

[01:03:39] The gaming market is rolling over.

[01:03:46] Or at least the triple way gaming market is rolling over, been rolling over by the

[01:03:52] been rolling over for the past at least a year and a half, but it's been rolling over, yes,

[01:04:00] exactly why you've been seeing all the layoffs. And you've got too many AAA games, too many

[01:04:06] acquisitions that occurred around the COVID timeframe with essentially games that didn't

[01:04:14] produce, man. I mean, there's no other way around it, I hate to say it. I wish every

[01:04:18] game could get out there and knock it out of the park, but they didn't produce.

[01:04:23] Destiny is a different situation because as you've seen from the numbers, that's why it's

[01:04:27] such an anomaly to me to see Destiny getting canned.

[01:04:31] And I know everyone's going to say, oh, but Destiny's so expensive to make.

[01:04:35] Well, Marathon's about to have 400 fucking developers just working on it.

[01:04:40] That sounds pretty fucking expensive.

[01:04:44] High five rush was incredibly successful so the entire studio got shut down.

[01:05:14] I wonder if it's an ego thing with Marathon.

[01:05:35] Yeah, because Sony, you gotta understand guys, if Sony came out and they shut down

[01:05:44] They, they, they decide we're going to lay off the marathon side instead of the destiny

[01:05:49] side, which let me be frank.

[01:05:50] I don't want either side to get laid off.

[01:05:53] But if Sony went in there and did that, do you know what that says?

[01:05:57] You know, it says to their investors, you know, it says to the, the, the people on

[01:06:01] the board that signed off on the, on the, uh, the bungee acquisition many years ago.

[01:06:08] It means they completely fucked up.

[01:06:11] That's what that means.

[01:06:12] This is their way of Khan, a saving face here.

[01:06:16] You see where I'm coming from?

[01:06:17] It's the way of, you know, the narrative is, well, destiny was already on its way out.

[01:06:23] Destiny was already, destiny already concluded.

[01:06:26] We can close destiny because that chapter was already ending.

[01:06:32] If they did this to Marathon, just three months after its launch.

[01:06:41] avoid, they're avoiding that because that's their heads. That means the people that championed

[01:06:48] this acquisition many years ago, the people that championed Marathon, the people that

[01:06:52] championed moving into the extraction shooter space, the people that said, hey, invest in

[01:06:58] Marathon and pull investments from Destiny, they don't want to be seen as wrong, but

[01:07:06] They are wrong.

[01:07:07] They fucked up.

[01:07:09] This is their way of trying to cover up, my opinion.

[01:07:12] This is their way of trying to cover up that fuck up.

[01:07:15] Let's just, they wanted it to go quietly.

[01:07:18] Just close the doors on destiny.

[01:07:21] All right.

[01:07:22] Try to keep marathon, kind of puttering along

[01:07:26] for the however long they can.

[01:07:36] Don't worry, the Sony people who made this decision, their heads will roll at some points.

[01:07:59] I don't know, maybe.

[01:08:01] I will say there's already been some, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, it's more of a slap on the hands. Jim Ryan has gone. Herman Hulse, who was the CEO is now, was it co CEO? Is that his title?

[01:08:31] But who knows, who knows?

[01:08:45] Assistant to the CEO.

[01:08:48] Yeah, but the entire gaming market guys is just, it balloons man.

[01:08:58] balloon. And look, here's the thing, like, I think, I think the wider economy, we would

[01:09:07] just when we get into economics, and I don't really want to get into that, because I just

[01:09:11] play video games. But the system, in my opinion, broke post COVID. The financials, I think

[01:09:28] everything and everything is just how long can we kick the can down the road? That's

[01:09:34] the game we're playing. Kick the can down the road. And it's hot potato. It's hot

[01:09:38] right now in politics they know it's gonna blow up they know it's gonna be

[01:09:44] the biggest shitstorm ever ever but it's hot potato who's gonna be holding the

[01:09:50] fucking potato when this thing blows the fuck up and we'll see how long this

[01:09:55] game can keep going

[01:10:08] I feel, though, for my people that are obviously incredibly talented, who have been held back

[01:10:27] in the past, you're experiencing such a wonderful version of destiny right now.

[01:10:33] Let me just tell you that people that work on Destiny knew exactly what you want.

[01:10:40] They delivered it in this update.

[01:10:42] You know the fuck the thing?

[01:10:45] Um, I guarantee you people in leadership would have preferred this monument

[01:10:51] to triumph updates to be stretched out over a year long period.

[01:10:56] No, don't give them every exotic catalyst in the game.

[01:11:00] Give them three at a time.

[01:11:01] put one in the season pass, put another behind a paywall.

[01:11:08] You see where I'm coming from?

[01:11:12] I'm very grateful to the Bungie devs,

[01:11:15] the Destiny devs that went into this update

[01:11:19] and they just went down the list, the wish list there

[01:11:22] and started knocking out everything

[01:11:24] that we've been asking for.

[01:11:26] Not that we got everything.

[01:11:27] I said, I'm waiting at my player own house

[01:11:29] or my clan housing.

[01:11:30] But really, really, I've just been having such a good time.

[01:11:35] And I will say this, if a D3 ever gets greenlit, I think a lot could be said about this update

[01:11:42] and how they approach the Destiny 3 in its monetization, its paywalls, its FOMO, or in

[01:11:49] this case, lack of FOMO.

[01:11:52] I think the business model works for Destiny 2,

[01:11:58] the seasonal business model.

[01:12:00] But for Destiny 3, I think there actually could be a different business model.

[01:12:07] If you're looking for examples, there's a game called RuneScape.

[01:12:15] And to me, it's one of the best examples on how to run your live game and run one's community.

[01:12:35] As far as the devs that are getting laid off, man, you know, I just don't see how talented

[01:12:44] people like this that have been, I mean, think of these are the people, whether it was Michael

[01:12:50] South Tory, who cooked up some of the best music that has ever graced our ears. It's Joe Blackburn,

[01:12:58] who was Game Director for Destiny 2 and did such a phenomenal job, even with light bulb

[01:13:05] being what it is, he jumped on the final shape and made shit happen.

[01:13:13] For what it's worth, the team here that delivered Monument of Triumph, Robbie Stevens and Tyson

[01:13:21] and everyone that's been Womack and the people that you've seen multiple times who

[01:13:26] are incredibly fucking talented.

[01:13:34] I think they're going to go on to do some great fucking things.

[01:13:37] Dude, I think Sony is fucking up so goddamn bad.

[01:13:41] I think they're going to go on to make some great shit.

[01:13:44] And I hope those guys come together and make something potentially like a destiny

[01:13:52] in the way they want to make it and stay independent.

[01:13:55] And that is something dear that I would, I would keep my eyes on

[01:14:00] from its inception to its delivery, and I hope they do.

[01:14:10] Still think people are too rough on Tyson.

[01:14:12] A lot of people give Tyson a lot of shit

[01:14:14] because he doesn't necessarily have a lot of face time

[01:14:16] with the community, but I could tell you, man,

[01:14:23] I've gone to Bungie for years.

[01:14:24] I know leaders that put themselves above the rest, that place themselves out of reach.

[01:14:35] That doesn't roll their sleeves up and get dirty.

[01:14:38] Tyson is not that guy.

[01:14:41] That man was in the pits with everyone working.

[01:14:46] And he got the, he got the shit in the stick, which is, which is very apparent right now,

[01:14:54] which was how to, how to size destiny down and essentially try to create a world of

[01:15:05] destiny with a much smaller budget than what they had before.

[01:15:12] And I think him and the people that are there are the ones who fought to make sure we got

[01:15:18] monument to trial.

[01:15:21] Oh, my God, dude, I mean, look, man, I went, you know, let me tell you something, I've

[01:15:29] been to dad has been to probably bungee more than anyone.

[01:15:34] But I've been to bungee a number of times, you know, many times I met Pete Parsons,

[01:15:40] bro. None. He may be like, he's the CEO. Yeah, exactly. He's the fucking CEO. There

[01:15:49] were some big decisions being made. And guess what? As CEO, you should be in that shit.

[01:15:55] You should be having those conversations. Never saw Pete, not even once. No, no, no.

[01:16:03] This is way before courtship, guys, way before courtships.

[01:16:17] Where's Jason Jones and all of this guys, though Jason Jones, I think just about everyone.

[01:16:26] And those positions, they're removed, they've removed them, either been removed or removed

[01:16:31] themselves or are just very hands-off and you know they probably just want to stay clear

[01:16:42] of they got paid man they got paid probably just want to stay clear of it now when CEOs

[01:16:58] of themselves off from the bottom line, they've become so far detached from reality. Yeah man,

[01:17:04] you know, exactly. EDM of the five, thank you so much.

[01:17:19] Let me see the French journalists that they're talking about.

[01:17:22] Bungee layoff at least 50% of its workforce this summer. It's claimed Bungee

[01:17:40] Bungee could reportedly face major layoffs this summer with a new claim saying at least 50% of its workforce may be affected

[01:17:45] Bungee's also has already had a rough few weeks

[01:17:47] Destiny 2 recently received its final live service update called Monument of Triumph,

[01:17:51] bringing years of active development to a close.

[01:17:54] That said, the game is not shutting down, but Bungie has made it clear that this is the

[01:17:58] end of planned live service content updates for Destiny 2.

[01:18:02] That final update was not small either.

[01:18:04] It was a massive send-off for the game, packed with sandbox changes, rewards and

[01:18:08] returning content.

[01:18:10] The update also brought a big jump in player numbers on Steam and other platforms,

[01:18:14] showing that Destiny still has a loyal audience

[01:18:16] when Bungie gets players a reason to come back.

[01:18:19] Keep in mind, the numbers were so strong on Steam,

[01:18:23] it was damn near renegades and agifate numbers together.

[01:18:27] Okay.

[01:18:32] And double marathon speak, but who's dick measuring?

[01:18:36] But behind that player spike,

[01:18:38] the big picture has not looked good.

[01:18:40] Bloomberg previously reported that Bungie

[01:18:41] was planning significant layoffs

[01:18:42] after the final Destiny 2 update to put no Destiny 3 currently in active development,

[01:18:47] and no new project greenlit for the Destiny team.

[01:18:50] Now we have another report on this front, and it's definitely not looking good.

[01:18:53] Bungie Layoffs Group, okay.

[01:18:54] The latest claim comes from French journalist Sylvain, who shared on X that Bungie could

[01:19:01] be hit by massive layoffs this summer, according to him.

[01:19:03] He has heard that at least 50% of Bungie's workforce could be affected, including

[01:19:06] both permanent employees and contractors.

[01:19:10] this is the translated statements.

[01:19:13] And if that wasn't enough,

[01:19:13] Bungie expected to face massive layoffs of summer.

[01:19:16] I'm being cautious with this,

[01:19:17] but I'm being told that at least 50% of the workforce

[01:19:20] could be affected,

[01:19:21] including permanent employees and contractors,

[01:19:24] following the end of Desi two

[01:19:26] and the situation with marathon.

[01:19:35] Course take us with a huge grain of salt for now,

[01:19:37] Bungie, Sony have not officially announced this number

[01:19:39] even Bloomberg's early reports did not give an exact figure. I don't know, Jason Schreyer

[01:19:44] said significant layoffs. So even if the 50% number ends up being off, it would not be

[01:19:51] surprising the final number is high. Bungee has already gone through major cuts, Destiny

[01:19:55] 2's active elements ending, Marathon has had a difficult road, and Sony has not greenlit

[01:20:00] a new Destiny project.

[01:20:03] But Bungie's workforce situation to perspective the studio had around 1600 employees before

[01:20:11] its first major layoffs in 2023.

[01:20:15] Based on comments from former Bungie chief legal officer Don McGowan after the October

[01:20:19] 2023 cuts, Bungie was later reported to have around 13 or 1350 employees in January 2024.

[01:20:28] Not including contractors or Sony employees.

[01:20:30] Guys, that's crazy dude.

[01:20:32] realize what that means. We are going from a 1600 man studio down to we are potentially

[01:20:41] dropping down to 400. And I'm going to be honest, I don't think this is going to be the

[01:20:47] last set of layoffs because I just don't see how Marathon can support that size of a of

[01:20:57] a workforce. And, you know, again, I'm not trying to bring hate to Marathon here.

[01:21:01] I just don't see how.

[01:21:23] Do you think Desi 2 was doomed from the start with the higher ups that were there?

[01:21:27] Anything that could have been said long ago?

[01:21:29] I think Destiny 2 was during the moment that the game plan became, we need to size down Destiny.

[01:21:37] Again, I think this is just my assessment here. I think the goal was always to size down Destiny,

[01:21:50] launch marathon. And I'm, you know, you guys are saying like, there's no way in hell, Sony ever

[01:22:00] thought that marathon was going to hit big numbers. You fucking bet they did. I'm telling you,

[01:22:09] they looked at, they looked at marathon and probably thought, okay, well, Bungie did Halo.

[01:22:15] Of course, they had their time in the 90s, but let's talk about when they really

[01:22:19] They started hitting the big, they did HALO, essentially ran with that for a decade.

[01:22:23] They did destiny, ran with that for a decade.

[01:22:25] And they were probably expecting that out of marathon.

[01:22:29] And so the game plan was get marathon out the door.

[01:22:37] And unfortunately, you could write a book on all the ways that got fucked.

[01:22:44] All right.

[01:22:45] from leadership, sexual harassment, the changing of game directors, the art scandal, the fact

[01:22:55] that the game just clearly was not ready to ship even last year, the fact that arc raiders

[01:23:00] and Embark beat them to the punch at their very own game, and then marathon launching

[01:23:13] this year to good reviews, good, good, good credit scores, but not enough players.

[01:23:30] So ensure before 2023 layoffs around 1600 employees after October 2023, around 1,350 employees

[01:23:37] July, 2024, another 220 were laid off.

[01:23:41] So this is post-final shape with 155 roles moved to Sony with 155 roles.

[01:23:47] Again, uh, Sony started team LFG, which is making what was the incubation project code.

[01:23:56] Gummy bears at bungee.

[01:23:58] I don't know what gummy bears is.

[01:24:00] I've never played it.

[01:24:02] I've never even talked to anyone that was making gummy bears.

[01:24:07] I don't even know why it was called gummy bears. Sounds a little too cute for Bungie, but anyways,

[01:24:14] that's under Sony now. After July 2024, restructuring over 850 team members remained.

[01:24:21] Claims summer 2026 LA, obviously at least 50% affected. That's what's potentially coming here

[01:24:26] soon. Estimated impact at least 425 people have based on Bungie's last known figure of over 850.

[01:24:37] Please tell me a D3 is announced, dude, unless we get some sort of miracle from now until

[01:24:52] then, you know, I think, again, I think that's, I mean, a D3 is the obvious, the obvious

[01:25:05] choice. But all the people that were in these positions of leadership who wanted to pivot

[01:25:13] into these into marathon, you know, who championed the idea, the idea of being a multi IP studio,

[01:25:28] You know, that's not working out too well for them right now.

[01:25:43] They were following the trend in a backfire.

[01:25:47] But man, I know I talk about RuneScape and JigEx a lot, but I saw these lessons being

[01:25:52] learned in real time back in 2020-2013.

[01:25:57] that studio came to realization. They said, Hey, we can either be mediocre and making

[01:26:05] a lot of different games. I'm not saying mediocre. I'm talking like mediocre to shit and making

[01:26:11] a lot of different games because yes, they had they had executives that came in. They

[01:26:16] were all big about pushing into this multi IP front. They talked about the same exact

[01:26:22] things, a risk assessment, having multiple games, having multiple revenue streams, but

[01:26:30] the realization finally hit them. We can either make all these other games that won't capture

[01:26:37] really any significant audience or we can do RuneScape and just do really, really good

[01:26:49] with one fucking game really commit all of our resources to one fucking game.

[01:27:00] And I did it.

[01:27:01] They committed all the resources that making just runescape.

[01:27:04] Now it was runescape classic old school runescape and runescape three.

[01:27:09] But the point is, is they focus on the runescape name.

[01:27:13] It's why what they just launched a survival game a year ago, right?

[01:27:17] Early access.

[01:27:18] What's it called?

[01:27:19] Dragon Wilds RuneScape.

[01:27:21] Why?

[01:27:22] Because they know RuneScape is the bread and butter.

[01:27:26] They know that RuneScape is bigger than Jagex.

[01:27:31] Bungie doesn't like, I mean, look, I think Bungie leadership at one time or the leadership

[01:27:35] that was there at one time, didn't like the idea that Destiny was bigger than Bungie.

[01:27:41] You know, um, but destiny did become bigger than bungee and destiny should have been the

[01:27:49] sole game that bungee should have focused on.

[01:27:53] And we should have got all the things that we thought we were going to get, including

[01:27:56] the destiny TV series or whatever the fuck, you know, um, that's the spinoff games,

[01:28:03] Destiny Darkgaze, Destiny Warlords, Destiny single player games.

[01:28:33] That's what Riot did to Valorant.

[01:28:46] Destiny Extraction Shooter.

[01:28:48] I wouldn't do that, but I will say a Destiny Extraction Shooter, like a standalone Destiny

[01:28:54] Extraction Shooter, probably would have done better than Marathon.

[01:28:58] Not trying to throw hate Marathon, all right?

[01:29:02] I'm going, I'm going.

[01:29:17] A destiny PV extraction.

[01:29:19] Dude, there's so much that could have been done with destiny, even just,

[01:29:21] even within destiny itself.

[01:29:23] You know, the idea of destiny becoming destiny infinity.

[01:29:27] I'm down for that.

[01:29:28] I was always down for that.

[01:29:29] What I'm not down for is limiting the amount of content being put out and just, you know,

[01:29:38] the constant over monetization.

[01:29:42] And that was Bungie's game, that was Bungie's and Sony's game plan.

[01:29:48] Look, all you can out of destiny, fund other IPs, get them out the door.

[01:29:59] And you know, look, I get it, it's risky having all of your eggs in one basket.

[01:30:08] You know what I mean?

[01:30:10] I mean, look at your stock portfolio.

[01:30:11] Some of you have stocks.

[01:30:12] Well, what will everyone say?

[01:30:14] You know, you want to own a little bit of everything, huh?

[01:30:17] know, get some bonds in there, right? Um, but then there's that, that one guy that just

[01:30:26] fucking puts it all into that one stock, you know, maybe he's, maybe he believes in that

[01:30:33] one vision. Maybe he's looking at SanDisk two years ago and he's like, Oh my God,

[01:30:37] this one right here, this is the one. But that's risky. That's risky. Destiny is

[01:30:45] that proven IP all right the proven IP with a community that's very vocal and

[01:30:53] I know people are like across they complain a lot all right guess what I

[01:30:57] was part of a community the runescape community you know we did all the time

[01:31:00] we bitched we bitched all the time

[01:31:07] we also spend money we did that was our favorite thing to do was bitch and

[01:31:12] spend money. You did that too. Those two things went hand in hand. I don't know if you know

[01:31:15] that or not.

[01:31:19] You're planning is better than not talking at all. Yeah, I mean like really, we can point

[01:31:36] to so many games, that has no one talking about them, cuz there's no community that's

[01:31:44] there.

[01:31:45] They're not, you know what I mean?

[01:31:46] They don't exist.

[01:31:47] By the way, Bungie knows this.

[01:31:53] Justin Truman, who's studio head, he knows this.

[01:31:57] That GDC panel he did years ago where he talks about earning players' trust, retention,

[01:32:05] for delivery.

[01:32:35] Yeah, they didn't meet internal goals, they too many delays and, you know, I wish Marathon

[01:33:05] would have gotten out the door in 2024. When Marathon was first shown to us, I think I believe

[01:33:14] it was supposed to have a closed beta by end of 2023. I wish it would have gone out the

[01:33:21] door by 2024. And what would have happened is whether it succeeded or died, you would

[01:33:32] have known right then and there while most of the studio was still around and that if

[01:33:38] there needed to be a pivot, it could happen. And by pivot, I mean, Sony assessing literally

[01:33:47] in an AB test fashion, they look at final shape numbers, they look at Marathon's numbers

[01:33:52] if it would have launched in 2024, and they make the decision right then and there.

[01:33:56] How do we need to proceed for it just didn't happen that way, man.

[01:34:05] We can't go back in time, can't change that.

[01:34:25] It wasn't Sony's fault, a bunch of executive one in the fun time with Truth or Dare.

[01:34:29] Well, I get that, I get that, you know, I want to come from it and I don't necessarily

[01:34:35] think Zeigler did bad with Marathon, you know, if anything, it's kind of amazing

[01:34:39] they still got it out the door.

[01:34:45] Beware over delivery, you're creating patterns mantra in its consequences.

[01:34:56] I can't believe the best patch ever was the last one.

[01:35:11] know. There are life lessons and humbling lessons waiting for all of us around the corner. And

[01:35:32] I find the moment you stop to pat yourself on the back, the moment you elevate yourself as a

[01:35:41] As the entity or individual that knows, you know, that's the superior authority on a certain

[01:35:57] topic.

[01:35:58] Just my opinion on this humble pie is right around the corner.

[01:36:09] The moment I was, the moment we, you know,

[01:36:11] Bodgy was kind of like pad themselves on the back post COVID

[01:36:14] of like, you know, live service experts.

[01:36:19] I was just like, man, you know,

[01:36:23] that's a dangerous game to play.

[01:36:30] I think they've done really, really well at Destiny,

[01:36:32] but I think grace should also be given here.

[01:36:35] I think,

[01:36:39] You know, not everything is just

[01:36:42] Destiny definitely did not go to plan like its delivery was not some like orchestrated to plan kind of

[01:36:51] What day one or D2, you know what I mean?

[01:36:54] It was really just the grace of the community

[01:36:57] That's interesting. I got really fucking lucky did any other fucking game. It would have died

[01:37:02] Destiny got really really fucking lucky. It had a gr there was a great community there

[01:37:08] That showed up man and would show back up even after they got burned would show the fuck back up

[01:37:32] Yeah, we'll be jumping on more frame later this afternoon.

[01:38:01] studios about to close due to corporate wanting money scary to see what's gonna be left for gamers in the years ahead

[01:38:08] Well, I don't think as gamers. I mean, obviously this this really sucks

[01:38:13] but

[01:38:16] I

[01:38:19] Think indian was a double-aid studios like I think I think triple-a was the one that that's in trouble

[01:38:28] You know overinflated budgets

[01:38:31] way too much

[01:38:33] overhead way too much spending and

[01:38:37] Yeah, that's across the board that's everybody

[01:38:40] But I think the devs are gonna, you know keep cooking your smaller studios indie developers. I

[01:38:47] Think they're gonna I think they're still gonna do well

[01:39:01] Is the end result of everyone expanding and spending so much during COVID?

[01:39:24] Yeah, I think I really wish Bungie would have just stayed independent in Nimble.

[01:39:29] You know what I mean? State independent and nimble

[01:39:33] nimble, you know, just

[01:39:42] They didn't have to start all those incubation projects

[01:39:48] They didn't need a studio the size they have that's the other thing that's crazy man

[01:39:53] You're like, well, no, they already signed everyone says that they're like, they already signed the lease for the studio that they got. Okay. And we pulled the permits on everything.

[01:40:03] Okay, you signed you signed the permit for the studio. You didn't have to spend all that money to revamp it. You don't come from they fucking spent that money.

[01:40:12] could spend that money.

[01:40:15] What's even crazy is half the studio doesn't even work there.

[01:40:19] Not the studio works from home.

[01:40:28] Have this huge fucking studio.

[01:40:31] They completely revamp, which it's a beautiful studio.

[01:40:33] Don't even run gorgeous studio.

[01:40:37] However, though,

[01:40:38] When, when, when, when I, when I talk to employees and they're like, when employee tells me,

[01:40:53] this is my first time being at the studio.

[01:40:56] I'm like, what?

[01:41:00] So you guys don't even like utilize this space?

[01:41:10] You have a like why you know and again people are gonna say like whoa no they signed this

[01:41:18] lease for the studio okay you signed the lease for the studio you didn't have to overhaul

[01:41:24] the whole studio you could have just overhauled one floor if it's like alright we're only

[01:41:28] going to have enough people up here on this one floor. We just going to over, we're just

[01:41:34] going to renovate the first floor. And look, let me tell you something like it again, it's

[01:41:41] an ego thing because you want, you want to look the part. You want to look like a AAA

[01:41:46] studio. You want to show, you want to show the banners on the wall, the artwork on

[01:41:51] the wall again. Gorgeous studio. But you got me. I'll tell you what my, I, this is

[01:41:57] what employees want more than anything. Employments. Money. That's what they

[01:42:05] want. Fuck about multiple elevators. This whole damn art gallery. They don't

[01:42:15] fucking give a shit about that. They want to be employed. They want to be

[01:42:18] taken care of. That's your job. That's your job as fucking CEO. Don't have to

[01:42:27] have no fucking gym there.

[01:42:31] What do we Google?

[01:42:48] Now you want so you just want fat devs. Hey, man, you want to go work out go get your own go

[01:42:53] There's Jim's out there fucking you don't cover from look all I'm saying is this a lot of money was burnt in a lot of crazy ways and

[01:43:05] You know you didn't have to burn that much money you could have e's in that shit

[01:43:11] All right

[01:43:18] could have started off floor by floor. I used to work for a fabrication business years ago,

[01:43:29] and they were expanding. They've expanded greatly since I left, but they were expanding

[01:43:34] at the time I was there, and I'm just, they expanded smart. They stayed within their blueprints,

[01:43:41] okay? And then as time went on, as they were awarded more and more contracts, they

[01:43:47] would add more to their warehouse. They would add an extra bay. They didn't go in there and

[01:43:53] just go, we're going to load this bitch down with 20 bays right out the gate. When you're

[01:43:58] only using two of them, you see where I'm coming from. It makes no sense. You expand

[01:44:04] with your demands.

[01:44:21] Did they play truth or dare at work?

[01:44:27] I definitely wouldn't play truth or dare

[01:44:30] with any of those hard legs.

[01:44:34] Not the kind of game you would want to play.

[01:45:04] More to the point of the CFOs or the real corporate CEOs do nothing except build their umbrella

[01:45:17] man did let me tell you what if you're a CEO that's worth the fuck you'll know what's

[01:45:23] happening in the financials nothing will fuck you more than life than looking at your account

[01:45:29] or CFO or whoever the fuck and depending on them to CPA or anyone you depend on

[01:45:34] anyone to run your finances. You don't know what the fuck's going on. Brother, good luck. Have fun.

[01:45:41] That's a shit storm waiting to happen.

[01:45:55] What's Monday's headcount 2014? I don't know. I don't know. I don't have a lot of people.

[01:46:04] Name a point in time when Bungie has ever been a well managed company.

[01:46:31] man. There's a lot of speculation being thrown out there. There's a lot of people that have

[01:46:37] come forward and said bungee was on the ropes. Okay. But at the end of the day, you're talking

[01:46:47] about a company that lasted over 30 some years that continually expanded year after

[01:46:54] year. That's now, or has been for the past two years, downsizing to what will essentially

[01:47:06] be a fourth of what it was. That's disaster. Look, it may have had problems. We crunched

[01:47:18] back in the day. Okay. It may have had moments where what they

[01:47:24] were working on was incredibly capital intensive. But you

[01:47:27] still saw company follow trend that continued to grow and

[01:47:32] bring in revenue year after year. They definitely had a lot of

[01:47:37] drama. I ain't gonna lie about that. Bungie's had a lot of

[01:47:40] I'm gonna talk a little bit more about this.

[01:47:42] I'll talk a little bit more about this.

[01:47:44] I'll talk in drama.

[01:48:10] bomber of a video coming up soon. Sorry. I'm assuming Paul talked to some people.

[01:48:27] about this one.

[01:48:49] I am guys.

[01:48:50] Yeah, we'll be on Warframe later.

[01:48:52] I love what Warframe is doing over there.

[01:48:55] Yeah, Zeta, we can run it with burning vikings.

[01:49:00] Burning, if you want to do crotas then we can.

[01:49:03] We can nuke them instantly.

[01:49:13] Monday at 165 days before working on Destiny 1,

[01:49:17] the 10-year Activision Deal, maybe there's hope.

[01:49:21] I could tell you that number, if that would have been like very, very initial, just Bungie

[01:49:31] expanded big time.

[01:49:34] Just the people alone that overhauled the Tiger engine for Destiny was based on Luke's

[01:49:43] research on it because we made a whole video on it.

[01:49:45] 300 people.

[01:49:59] 2014 bungee at 500 employees.

[01:50:02] Yeah.

[01:50:03] Well, here's the thing, guys.

[01:50:06] If bungee was going to lean down to say 400 people,

[01:50:10] maybe 500.

[01:50:12] All right.

[01:50:12] But I just don't think marathon is the game man. That's all I'm saying. You know I'm coming from you're saying like

[01:50:21] So bungee was 400 people in 2014, maybe it was I haven't looked or 500 people in 2014. Yeah, but they produced destiny

[01:50:29] There's so many fucking people

[01:50:34] This is not me putting hate on marathon guys

[01:50:38] I'm saying marathon and their team is

[01:50:42] It just seems very large, considering what the game is bringing in, that's all I'm saying.

[01:50:57] This video's up.

[01:50:58] All right, let me piss.

[01:50:59] Hold on.

[01:51:00] Yes, Sotom.

[01:53:00] Yeah, hold on one second, hold on.

[01:53:30] you

[01:54:00] you

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[01:55:30] you

[01:56:00] you

[01:56:30] you

[01:57:00] you

[01:57:30] you

[01:58:00] you

[01:58:30] you

[01:59:00] I

[01:59:22] Be back to my post that video I'm that was

[01:59:26] What video is it?

[01:59:56] Alright, I'm back with another Destiny 2 video, and not a fun one.

[02:00:12] You know, I've been relentlessly positive about the update, which I still am, and there

[02:00:18] is good news in the sense that it is very cool to see that Destiny has maintained

[02:00:25] over 125,000 concurrent. Paul, why are you wearing a marathon shirt?

[02:00:34] What the fuck is that?

[02:00:38] Is our man compromised?

[02:00:43] What the hell is that? You know the other day I put on a shirt too,

[02:00:48] and I was just about to walk out of my house, and I caught myself in the mirror.

[02:00:52] It was a marathon shirt.

[02:00:55] Can't believe it.

[02:00:58] That even made it

[02:01:02] with the washing machine and

[02:01:05] onto my body without me noticing.

[02:01:08] Players every night for the past week since the update

[02:01:13] dropped, let's say double that at minimum on console

[02:01:17] and it's a big hit, obviously.

[02:01:20] But, you know, there's some rumors going around about what's happening with Bungie, there's

[02:01:27] stuff out of Bungie, and then, you know, this idea of, well, this is a hit, like what, you

[02:01:32] know, what happens now?

[02:01:34] Like, okay, so it's a lot of bad news.

[02:01:40] Some of this is like already public information, some of this is like me poking around.

[02:01:45] But there was this thing going around from a French journalist who I don't know who said

[02:01:50] that 50% of Bungie is being laid off soon.

[02:01:57] I am not confident in exact percentages, so I'm not going to like confirm that.

[02:02:03] But there are going to be significant layoffs at Bungie, unfortunately.

[02:02:09] This is not the first time this has been said.

[02:02:11] I think I said this earlier.

[02:02:12] Jason Schreier said this with his piece.

[02:02:14] And I mean it's inevitable given the situation that we're in.

[02:02:22] If you discontinue your biggest game, which at least half of your employees are working

[02:02:28] on and you do not have a greenlit project to switch them to, you are not going to

[02:02:35] throw like 300, 400 devs over to Marathon, which they've already moved some over.

[02:02:42] And then there's just, you know, what do you do with them in their view other than lay

[02:02:48] them off?

[02:02:49] Like the whole point of this bunch of stuff is that they are burning cash and they are

[02:02:53] unprofitable and paying hundreds more people to even go work on marathon if you're, say,

[02:02:59] throwing all your eggs in the marathon basket or having them do something that literally

[02:03:05] just got greenlit when something like that would require a more smaller team to get

[02:03:09] started.

[02:03:10] not going to do that. And this leads into the second obvious conclusion that if you

[02:03:17] lay off all of the Destiny team, or if you don't lay them off and just move them, there

[02:03:25] is no one to continue Destiny 2 content and no one to start making Destiny 3. Even in

[02:03:31] In the wake of this well performing update, I asked my sources, is there anything that

[02:03:40] this has done to move the needle to change things based on how well this has been received,

[02:03:45] how many people are playing?

[02:03:48] Testing's been third in Steam revenue for...

[02:03:51] Got up to number one.

[02:03:53] Pretty much a week.

[02:03:54] I think it dropped a little today.

[02:03:56] Is there anything that has changed?

[02:03:58] the one word answer I got back is no.

[02:04:01] So all of this is kind of already set in motion.

[02:04:04] It's already done.

[02:04:06] I don't know exactly the timeline for these layoffs,

[02:04:08] but I don't know.

[02:04:10] Sometimes the next month or two is most likely,

[02:04:13] because now that this is released,

[02:09:58] How can that not do anything?

[02:10:28] We fucking showed up.

[02:10:36] I spammed D3 from the shitter every day now for the past three weeks.

[02:10:45] We fucking played the shit out of this update and we're still going to play it.

[02:10:57] what are people working on. Also in July you're going to see some amount of leadership or like

[02:11:05] OG Bungie people depart the company, probably, you know, not laid off because this is because the

[02:11:11] various deals people have their Sony shares or profit or whatever vests so they can, you know,

[02:11:18] get out of the deal and go do something else earning lots of money. And we've already seen

[02:11:23] And some people do this, Chris Barrett lawsuit is kind of based around this, because like

[02:11:27] he was fired, you know, allegedly or whatever for cause, and that's still in courts.

[02:11:33] And then he was denied some, you know, big payout because of that.

[02:11:36] And he's, you know, that's kind of that whole thing.

[02:11:38] But if there's no controversy, you leave and you get X amount of money or whatever.

[02:11:43] I just, I could be married on people too.

[02:11:45] I'm not even sure.

[02:11:46] But if that happens, it might happen somewhere in July.

[02:11:50] that may not be alongside layoffs per se,

[02:11:53] but it's all gonna kind of happen,

[02:11:55] I think kind of around the same time.

[02:11:58] And it's just like there are zero indications,

[02:12:02] you know, publicly also that this is going to continue on.

[02:12:05] What are you saying, Sombra?

[02:12:20] Sombra, did you subscribe to this channel? Or did someone gift you a sub? I'm just wondering.

[02:12:50] Don't get quiet now.

[02:13:01] Did you subscribe to the channel?

[02:13:04] Or does someone gift you a salt?

[02:13:26] Maybe the Sombra.

[02:13:27] I don't know if you're not recognizing your name right now.

[02:13:48] Did he just leave the chat?

[02:13:49] Did he just straight up just leave?

[02:13:53] Did you just straight up...

[02:14:02] Oh, AVD. AVD Sumbra.

[02:14:06] There you are.

[02:14:08] Did you subscribe?

[02:14:13] Or did someone...

[02:14:16] Or did someone gift?

[02:14:23] I know what you said, but so this is a beautiful thing on Twitch.

[02:14:41] I've been able to look at all of your previous comments.

[02:15:00] I use my prime here.

[02:15:13] Well, today, buddy, I'm going to save you five bucks.

[02:15:21] Well, now, now, now.

[02:15:28] There we go, there we go.

[02:15:35] One second.

[02:16:34] Okay.

[02:16:35] Matt, what's happening?

[02:16:41] DMG keeps posting about like the last hotfix, like, you know, we know this is the last update,

[02:16:49] but they're literally about to like do the last update or hotfix for the game in terms

[02:16:55] of like fix.

[02:16:56] There's literally gonna be no one else around bungee that can fix shit.

[02:17:00] You know that, right?

[02:17:02] You realize.

[02:17:03] Let me like, damn, there's some broken shit right now in destiny.

[02:17:10] Can anyone here fix it?

[02:17:12] Nope.

[02:17:13] Nobody even knows.

[02:17:14] Saying, you know, bugs and stuff with gear or whatever, to the point where he's like,

[02:17:20] yeah, pretty much anything going forward is just going to be if there's some sort

[02:17:23] of like game breaking crash.

[02:17:25] So they are not even keeping, you know, forget supporting destiny to somebody kind

[02:17:29] they're not even keeping a small team around to do like the bare bones of what it would require to

[02:17:37] you know keep keep this game from breaking at least through content or your gear issues or

[02:17:42] whatever like it's going to just be done and all of this is you know near term I've said before

[02:17:50] that my optimistic view is that I think the destiny IP still has life in it whether that is in

[02:17:57] than a new kind of different project

[02:17:59] that gets eventually greenlight incubated,

[02:18:01] or if it is Destiny 3 in the very, very far-flung future.

[02:18:06] But for now, it's like over.

[02:18:10] I mean, I think there's reason to play Destiny

[02:18:13] for a long time given what they've added.

[02:18:15] If you're enjoying it,

[02:18:16] I think there's lots to do that's fun.

[02:18:18] I just wrote about how you can grind out

[02:18:20] a million cosmetics from Ngrams if you want.

[02:18:25] but in terms of Bungie support, there will be zero.

[02:18:30] And it sucks because I know people see these numbers

[02:18:33] and they're like, well, surely this must be changing

[02:18:36] hearts and minds over there at Bungie leadership

[02:18:38] and at Sony and like it just, it hasn't.

[02:18:41] I maintain that I think this is stupid.

[02:18:45] Not even, you know, this isn't even totally a dig

[02:18:48] against Marathon in terms of like picking

[02:18:50] the right horse, blah, blah, blah.

[02:18:52] And you know, there are real issues there

[02:18:55] about like, okay, the cost of supporting marathon is going to be less than the cost of supporting

[02:18:59] destiny. That said, that has its limits. If you're still paying, you know, 300, 400 people

[02:19:04] to work on marathon, that's not cheap. No matter what the content is, you're adding.

[02:19:09] But like, if I got asked, dude, I mean, look, I'm not trying to be mean right now. Why

[02:19:15] Why does Marathon need so many people?

[02:19:32] The content pipeline set up.

[02:19:38] Night mode?

[02:19:40] got night mode this this past season I'm not trying to hate right now but it's not

[02:19:47] like like a destiny we would get these huge you know we get these active brand

[02:19:53] new activities that would cycle into the game alongside a narrative they're

[02:20:07] adding weather effects.

[02:20:21] All right.

[02:20:22] You OK?

[02:20:37] How many people work on RuneScape?

[02:20:45] You can't compare RuneScape.

[02:20:48] It's a different kind of game, guys.

[02:20:50] Yeah, Jagex is a different kind of studio, just like digital streams and Warframe.

[02:20:55] You can't compare the two.

[02:20:57] Uh-oh.

[02:20:58] Okay, and like the terms of like manpower.

[02:21:06] You compare it for everything else?

[02:21:08] I'm saying that their way that they recovered is the comparison that I made.

[02:21:15] How many people employed, employed, employed by Jigas?

[02:21:26] Damn, that many?

[02:21:31] Jesus!

[02:21:32] That's 600 to 700 people.

[02:21:41] I didn't know that.

[02:21:42] It's a lot of people.

[02:22:02] I want to know who's running their financials 2013 I was looking at when did Jx when did

[02:22:23] they like people off. In 2013, they reduced staff by 10 employees. That was evolution

[02:22:34] in combat. By the way, that's how like evolution of combat, which literally killed the game,

[02:22:40] resulting them, I'm not saying I feel bad for the 10 people got laid off, but they

[02:22:45] they only they only laid off 10 people. I was saying out of the 700 man studio pretty

[02:22:50] It's pretty fucking good.

[02:22:59] What are we talking about?

[02:23:00] We're in skate.

[02:23:06] Yeah, how many people make,

[02:23:07] how many people work at GGG?

[02:23:09] Damn 240 people work at GGG hot damn they good 240 people they got two games they got

[02:23:31] Path of Exile 1 and Path of Exile 2, they are efficient.

[02:23:59] It's hard to really, because Blizzard is huge, man.

[02:24:06] Blizzard is, says right here, Activision Blizzard total, the corporate group maintains

[02:24:14] estimated 7,500 to 13,000 employees worldwide.

[02:24:20] Yeah, there's a lot that goes into that.

[02:24:21] Final Fantasy's 14th core dev team is around 400.

[02:24:46] Doesn't death seem to want to have a maintenance crew?

[02:24:49] No.

[02:24:50] Now that I know I think the destiny to maintenance crew kind of like they ever needed to do some of D1

[02:24:56] They would take care of it, but no oh

[02:25:02] Yeah, yeah, that's actually a good question how many people at embark

[02:25:12] Embark's been hiring like crazy here lately embark studio employees approximately 400 to 430 people

[02:25:20] They got two games. They got the finals and they've got our creators

[02:25:32] But they've also been they've been hiring a bunch

[02:25:50] These are extreme currently employees, 450 to 600 people globally.

[02:26:05] Nice.

[02:26:12] I think my two games, they got soul frame and more frame.

[02:26:19] Yeah.

[02:26:20] It's always about just total dollars and cents.

[02:26:31] And like a lot of this is a wider industry problem.

[02:26:34] Like we're hearing all these reports of like just insane budgets

[02:26:37] and like a lot of these aren't verified, but it's like, oh,

[02:26:39] It's like, oh, Gears of War cost 400 million,

[02:26:41] and Perfect Dark cost 800 million,

[02:26:43] and a Destiny 3 would cost 500 million.

[02:26:46] And even if those aren't exact numbers,

[02:26:48] they're probably not out of the realm of possibilities.

[02:26:50] So we are going to be scaling back in many, many ways.

[02:26:54] And it is frustrating to see that this is not

[02:26:57] happening with other somewhat similar games.

[02:27:00] Warframe is just going to live forever.

[02:27:02] And that has found a way to retain its player count

[02:27:06] to a significant degree.

[02:27:08] And then I just posted about, like, I didn't realize this,

[02:27:10] the division just launched, the division two just launched

[02:27:12] a huge update and is continuing to make at least some amount

[02:27:16] of content and that is while they are making the division three.

[02:27:20] And this is Ubisoft, you know, not exactly the best

[02:27:23] of project managers on a good day.

[02:27:26] And yet somehow Sony and Bungie cannot make this work,

[02:27:31] which like seeing this update, it feels like they're,

[02:27:34] I mean, dude, Ubisoft is still, they still greenlit a division three.

[02:27:39] And let me just say, I like the division a lot, but let me tell you how bad of a time

[02:27:44] Ubisoft has had.

[02:27:47] If you bought Ubisoft stock, if you would have bought Ubisoft five years ago, you would

[02:28:05] be down nearly 92%.

[02:28:17] you would have went from $59 to share the five.

[02:28:24] And even they, Green Letter Division 3, has to have been a way forward to some degree,

[02:28:39] even if it was reduced, if they fixed so many of the things that were wrong with the

[02:28:44] the launch of the portal and edge of fate and stuff,

[02:28:47] even if it was smaller content,

[02:28:48] I think that they could have probably reduced costs enough

[02:28:51] to make Destiny living on something

[02:28:53] that they should at least consider.

[02:28:55] Totally atomizing the entire team down to like

[02:28:59] the people who do hot fixes seems incredibly short-sighted

[02:29:03] and reeks of just horrific mismanagement of Bungie

[02:29:07] and this franchise that is like

[02:29:10] an all-time live service franchise in an era

[02:29:13] where you are allegedly trying to look for live service hits.

[02:29:17] And like, I know Sony got fleeced by, you know,

[02:29:21] Pete Parsons and the Bungie leadership

[02:29:23] in terms of like the, it being very overvalued,

[02:29:26] but like they're still valuing it

[02:29:29] like a $3 billion asset, some.

[02:29:31] You know, I've often said, I wonder,

[02:29:33] why did Bungie, they got the lease in the studio.

[02:29:37] They could have expanded with the size of their workforce.

[02:29:43] and expand with demand, which would have been the proper way of doing things.

[02:29:49] Unless you have to look the parts.

[02:29:56] You see Pete may have wanted Bungie to look the parts.

[02:30:03] It's 200 or some thousand square foot studio fully amped up.

[02:30:07] All dulled out.

[02:30:09] Sony comes in, they're like, hey, what's happening?

[02:30:13] Sony walks in, they're like, wow, this place is pretty nice.

[02:30:18] He's like, that's right.

[02:30:21] We cook like that.

[02:30:22] That's just what I do, man.

[02:30:24] I'm going to go take a look at my course.

[02:30:27] And look, Pete could have been doing that.

[02:30:29] He could have been playing that game.

[02:30:31] And you know, you can be like, this is where the sausage was made.

[02:30:38] That's it.

[02:30:39] Developers in there all smiling

[02:30:44] Waiting for Sony to acquire my ass

[02:30:52] Do might have just been flexing just to get the biggest price point possible

[02:30:59] Wow even with all these you know impairment losses and it just seems so

[02:31:04] counter to everything else they're doing. They've lost outright just hundreds of

[02:31:10] millions of dollars on these other live service offerings. I cannot see anything

[02:31:15] in the pipeline that seems like it's going to be a live service hit for them,

[02:31:18] whether that's fair games or the Horizon Hunters gathering. It has plenty of

[02:31:23] problems with its single-player games like Naughty Dog not making an entire

[02:31:28] game for an entire console generation and one that's gonna cost, I don't

[02:31:32] That's probably four or $500 million or whatever.

[02:31:36] And that is going to be a game most people play for 40,

[02:31:39] 50 hours and then move on with no microtransactions.

[02:31:43] So great.

[02:31:45] But if you're going to put that kind of motion behind that sort

[02:31:51] of game, and you're not going to do that with,

[02:31:53] what would almost certainly be a profitable live service?

[02:31:57] Like if you could get costs even remotely in line,

[02:32:01] that seems crazy to me. But all of the seeming crazy, all of this, like, you know, us being

[02:32:07] aghast that, like, this hasn't moved the needle and that these layoffs are moving forward

[02:32:10] and that support for the game is just being obliterated. As of now, like, that's what's

[02:32:16] happening. And not to say that things cannot change, but we are getting really close to

[02:32:20] some likely deadlines for, you know, these layoffs and end of support and things like

[02:32:26] that and we are we're too far down the road I think for that to be reversed and even if this

[02:32:34] update managed to get this many players and you know set couple the the player count temporarily

[02:32:42] it's just not enough to look for like a week of that or a month of that is not going to be

[02:32:47] enough for Sony to green light a 500 million dollar game like that that is not going to move

[02:32:52] the needle specifically I'm not sure there would have been a number I think this could have broken

[02:32:56] the all-time concurrent peak and they still probably wouldn't have done it like I don't think we really

[02:33:01] had a chance here as much as we wanted to support things and then there's this whole debate about

[02:33:08] like should you support marathon or hate marathon or whatever I don't know if either option

[02:33:15] really matters I think it's better to support marathon just because it's it's less shitty

[02:33:22] I know everyone thinks I hate Marathon, but I'm just really reporting the numbers, which

[02:33:26] are not good.

[02:33:29] If you like Marathon, support Marathon.

[02:33:32] If you don't like Marathon, don't support.

[02:33:36] You know what I mean?

[02:33:37] Come to that.

[02:33:38] It's very black and white.

[02:33:39] You gotta like the game, or you don't.

[02:33:42] Is that it?

[02:33:47] I

[02:33:50] Definitely don't believe going over there and throwing money in the marathon. It's gonna suddenly give us a destiny three

[02:33:55] I'm just being honest with you guys. I don't think that's gonna happen

[02:34:00] You know, you you spend your money how you want though, I don't give shit

[02:34:08] But I don't think that's going to lead to that

[02:34:11] You know

[02:34:12] So if you're a destiny player and you're a destiny die our player you've played marathon

[02:34:17] Maybe you don't care for it

[02:34:19] But you you see the narrative being pushed that support marathon will give you a destiny three

[02:34:27] And you go throw all your money into skins and everything else in marathon

[02:34:33] Again down the road you might get a marathon to

[02:34:37] before you get a death same theory. So, the fund should be the other way around.

[02:35:07] other than just like brooding from marathon to fail in which case bungee absolutely shuts down and then there's the idea

[02:35:12] Like if marathon is great, then it'll just look more marathon

[02:35:16] Probably true, maybe but it's better than bungee not existing at all

[02:35:21] There are of course larger questions about the state of the AP if Sony could sell that somehow or

[02:35:29] Put a different team on it. That is cheaper like outsource it

[02:35:33] I don't know, that's all like pie in the sky stuff

[02:35:36] that we have no real idea about, it's just speculation.

[02:35:39] But on the ground, what's happening now is

[02:35:42] we have a really great update to play for as long as we want.

[02:35:45] Game is in the best state of just spending years.

[02:35:48] And it's dead, at least in terms of new content,

[02:35:52] in terms of greenlit future stuff.

[02:35:54] Like this is it, and unless something just wildly

[02:35:58] dramatic changes, which you know,

[02:36:01] like it's a wonderful lifestyle.

[02:36:03] Like it, it's nothing we can really do matters

[02:36:09] outside of like showing all the people

[02:36:12] that worked really hard on this at Bungie

[02:36:13] that we really love what they made

[02:36:15] and that we're going out on a good note here.

[02:36:17] I think that's important.

[02:36:18] There's an article in Aftermath, it's a newsletter

[02:36:22] where they interviewed a bunch of ex-Bungie people

[02:36:24] and like what they're all proud of and stuff.

[02:36:26] And like it's really, you know, kind of touching to read

[02:36:29] And even I underestimated this update.

[02:36:33] I previously, I heard about it.

[02:36:36] I'm like, oh, well, monument of triumph

[02:36:37] is just gonna be like upgraded moments of triumph

[02:36:39] and like nothing they were talking about.

[02:36:41] It sounds like crazy good.

[02:36:42] And then they talked about a lot more stuff

[02:36:44] and I heard from people like working on this

[02:36:46] and they're like, hey, like don't be an asshole.

[02:36:49] Like this is a ton of stuff.

[02:36:52] Okay, okay, I'm sorry.

[02:36:53] And then it's like, oh no, shit.

[02:36:55] I was very wrong and this is awesome.

[02:36:57] So that was, it's been very cool to see.

[02:37:00] I've really enjoyed this just totally obliterating

[02:37:02] my expectations.

[02:37:05] And I don't know, I plan to play this for a long time.

[02:37:10] It may be in and out, it may be just stupid things

[02:37:13] that I wanna do, like collect all the catalysts

[02:37:16] or whatever, but I'm not ready to just leave it

[02:37:19] behind forever.

[02:37:22] But like there's no way that we're going to see it live on in the way it needs to over time.

[02:37:32] You add no live updates to a game, player count will drop, matchmaking will get harder, etc., etc.,

[02:37:37] our friends will leave, and it's, I think it's always going to be frustrating.

[02:37:42] And I guess, you know, the moving through the stages of grief to acceptance, like I guess we have to get to acceptance,

[02:37:49] but I don't think we have to completely erase anger

[02:37:53] and depression either because that is something

[02:37:56] obviously this inspires for very long-time fans.

[02:38:00] If I hear anything different,

[02:38:03] I guess I may or may not report it.

[02:38:05] I don't know, announcing something super early

[02:38:07] that might just be a whisper of a rumor

[02:38:09] may not be helpful, but I have been looking into this

[02:38:13] this whole time and unfortunately I cannot report back

[02:38:16] anything good outside of what we see in public,

[02:38:18] which is the numbers and how good the update is.

[02:38:20] So, you know, I don't know percents of layoffs

[02:38:24] and whatever exact timing,

[02:38:25] but brace yourself for things not to be good for,

[02:38:31] I don't know.

[02:38:32] I don't want to say forever,

[02:38:33] but it's truly the end of an era

[02:38:37] and we will see kind of what Bungie does next,

[02:38:39] whether that's how they're trying to transform marathon

[02:38:43] and whatever,

[02:38:43] or if they get something actually green

[02:38:45] that for an incubation project,

[02:38:47] I know I would certainly be interested in that,

[02:38:49] even if it was something that was years and years away,

[02:38:51] hopefully, Destiny-related.

[02:38:53] But again, I think this IP is too valuable

[02:38:55] to just abandon and light on fire forever.

[02:38:59] Makes no sense to me, you would do that.

[02:39:01] And if anything, I think this outpouring of support

[02:39:04] and people returning show that people

[02:39:06] do want to play Destiny.

[02:39:07] They just needed a reason to come back and play Destiny.

[02:39:11] And a patch that fixes so, so many mistakes

[02:39:14] certainly was a big part of that.

[02:39:16] but ballooning costs, like huge expectations

[02:39:21] and just kind of the industry not really being able

[02:39:24] to fit something like this without a lot of concessions

[02:39:27] combines with, you know, perhaps poor decision-making

[02:39:29] and here we are.

[02:39:31] So, sorry to be a downer, you know,

[02:39:33] and I don't know, kind of usually a downer

[02:39:35] and I haven't been about this update,

[02:39:37] but there's been enough stuff flying around

[02:39:38] where I thought it was time to make this video.

[02:39:42] I don't know, I'll get back more into like,

[02:39:43] I'm doing this fun thing.

[02:39:45] soon but yeah for now I don't know people are probably going to make news

[02:39:49] stories out of this and whatever but most of this is not really news news news

[02:39:54] it's just kind of what we all knew was happening but anyway thanks for watching

[02:40:01] and I'll talk to you soon. My thing is man I wish I just would have enjoyed

[02:40:07] things more like had I known Renegades is gonna be the last campaign

[02:40:13] experience. I feel like I really took my time with it, but I would have taken more time with

[02:40:18] it. You know what I'm saying? I would have taken more time with it, man. I would have enjoyed

[02:40:26] DP, you know? And I enjoyed DP, but like even more so. I just, obviously, I wish we just

[02:40:34] would have had more, one more like raid campaign experience, just one more.

[02:40:38] or even if it wasn't completely finished, man,

[02:40:42] like you know, man.

[02:40:58] Boys and girls, the Destiny community,

[02:41:02] you did everything you possibly could.

[02:41:04] Let me just say this, I'm so fucking proud.

[02:41:06] You did not go gentle into that good night.

[02:41:11] You rage and rage against the dying of the light.

[02:41:15] You fucking did that shit.

[02:41:17] You spammed D3.

[02:41:19] You let your voices be heard.

[02:41:23] You showed up on the ninth.

[02:41:26] Y'all cooked, man.

[02:41:30] Y'all really cooked.

[02:41:33] It's been wonderful to watch.

[02:41:40] To my developers, I look forward to gaming with them inside of Destiny 2.

[02:41:50] We may be in a situation where years from now we talk about how much Destiny meant to us,

[02:41:58] and that may just be that.

[02:42:00] Hopefully, at some point down the road at D3 does get greenlets, but I, I'm just like my,

[02:42:07] my thought on this is, is if it wasn't greenlit in 2024 post final shape or leading up the final shape

[02:42:16] and if it wasn't greenlit this fucking year, then I just feel like it was just never

[02:42:26] on the table to begin with because like in 2024 the comments from Sony would have been

[02:42:35] well let's see what episodes are going to do before we make a call on on doing a sequel.

[02:42:45] Okay let's let's see how these midsize expansions are going to go. Let's check out

[02:42:52] Hedge of faith. Renegade. See how that plays out. You've seen it play out and you see that it doesn't work

[02:42:59] Lest it's not equal more

[02:43:02] Try it as much as you want

[02:43:04] But it'll never happen that way

[02:43:07] And I just feel like

[02:43:11] Sony made up their mind a long time ago

[02:43:14] about a destiny three

[02:43:17] And unfortunately that's that man

[02:43:52] Claude, make guessing three, make no mistakes.

[02:44:12] Some road marathon shooters in here right now, cross, let me get my sword back so I can handle,

[02:44:18] I can hand out timeouts.

[02:44:20] Clune you just you know learn how to do the mechanics in spider, okay?

[02:44:26] We'll talk about

[02:44:29] You handy got bands afterwards

[02:44:37] Mac you'll take a sword

[02:44:39] My back's still hurting, Clint. My back's still hurting. Why does somebody got to buy

[02:44:59] up things I love and then shut them down as soon as they hate them with the passion

[02:45:02] They keep doing it to me.

[02:45:07] Well.

[02:45:11] As fucked up as this is going to sound.

[02:45:23] I these are these are these are some of the reasons why I think

[02:45:26] Bungie was acquired.

[02:45:28] Uh, reason number one, knee jerk reaction, because Microsoft was acquiring everybody.

[02:45:36] Reason number two, maybe just maybe.

[02:45:43] Just maybe it's a foreign maybe, but maybe this is Sony fishing Bungie could

[02:45:53] be the next Mojang or the next like, or in this specific case, Marathon, Marathon could

[02:46:01] be the next big game. That's what they were back in. Marathon is going to be that next

[02:46:06] big game. And by, by relation to that, Bungie could have been, you know, the equivalent

[02:46:15] investment of like, Ryan McAmmie or Mojang getting acquired by Microsoft, right? The

[02:46:21] kind of the kind of investment that goes up five six thousand percent you

[02:46:25] soon are saying I know way fucking out there but there's always that you know

[02:46:29] that's specula that that's speculative part of any investments you know all

[02:46:34] hype normally but still

[02:46:42] and third I just think that there was just so much liquidity around that

[02:46:50] time. So many, so many businesses just had, there was so much liquidity pumped into the

[02:46:57] market. Everybody was just like, it was, it was a time of exuberance. Everyone was like,

[02:47:03] trying to find places to put money, or in these cases, corporations trying to find

[02:47:07] places in jet money into. And not only was it, was it, um, so much liquidity in

[02:47:14] the market, there was so much just easy money. You know, when you go out there and get, you

[02:47:21] know, loans, essentially 0% interest once, you know, once you cut out inflation, like,

[02:47:28] like, that's fucking crazy. It did what it was supposed to do. It was supposed to

[02:47:37] and stimulated did but

[02:47:50] I should have been a story-based FES

[02:47:54] It's glad talking shit about us on Twitter, oh my God, yo bitch, he says, glad I will

[02:48:20] never stop talking about destiny.

[02:48:25] Well, that said, I'm like one of those.

[02:48:26] What was that tweet he said?

[02:48:29] One of those dudes where his hot ex girlfriend leaves him.

[02:48:33] And he just won't stop talking about it.

[02:48:39] You damn right.

[02:48:45] Don't know what the 32 month thing is.

[02:48:46] I don't care if it's true

[02:48:59] What is that damn that's a damn good focus

[02:49:09] No feelings

[02:49:16] All right, I pretty good pretty good

[02:49:23] All right chat

[02:49:27] Look if you want us to shit on Argos at tier five

[02:49:33] Right if you're like five feet

[02:49:36] Join us now

[02:49:38] I'm about to show you how we get it done

[02:49:42] What you need you need Geomax

[02:49:46] Oh, so we get this shit on right you need Geomax you need chaos reach and your

[02:50:01] artifact needs to look like this five feet August by the way does anyone have

[02:50:12] Checkpoint for

[02:50:14] Insurrection Prime, I need to get the anarchy cat us

[02:50:27] Better crash did better crash not stronger. Oh, no, they're chaos rich puts out

[02:50:34] And puts out a lot of it puts a lot a little more damage than um, I

[02:50:38] Think I think six chaos reaches we can fuck we could fuck them up bad

[02:50:42] Yeah, anybody want to join?

[02:50:49] Bro, this artifact sheet is destroying my comp through school matches.

[02:50:53] Oh yeah, people are leaving the matches.

[02:50:56] Is it Cobra?

[02:50:59] How long do you think Destiny 2 servers will be up?

[02:51:04] Probably forever, guys.

[02:51:05] Destiny 1 server still hasn't been shut down

[02:51:28] You're gonna cheese the five feet emblem. No, I just want to shit on Argos five feet. I'm not gonna cheese it

[02:51:35] Today, but I'm gonna form instruction primary. Yeah

[02:51:42] You have the instruction checkpoints, I'll do it

[02:51:55] But I'm looking to do

[02:52:05] Wait, I don't want to reset my checkpoint.

[02:52:18] Can I join him down in a clan?

[02:52:25] Okay, I have a checkpoint.

[02:52:34] Guys, my fire team is open.

[02:52:39] Do I not have clan mates that want to gain?

[02:52:42] I see.

[02:52:43] I didn't realize that my clan was full of bitches.

[02:52:46] Good.

[02:52:47] Mont, I want you to boot 20 people from the clan today.

[02:52:52] It doesn't matter who just find me 20 people to boot from the clan.

[02:53:05] Let's do this.

[02:53:22] Hyper um

[02:53:24] I'm thinking they game post article instead of Paul's

[02:53:29] Video, yeah, I'm thinking no no no to Paul's video

[02:53:33] Nothing is Paul, but you know

[02:53:52] I'm pretty sure we're gonna instantly nuke on this on Argos here.

[02:54:05] Your name is Imagine Dragons imagine dragon these days stop.

[02:54:09] That's not your fucking name.

[02:54:12] Biff.

[02:54:13] With the five get the sus biff thank you so much for the five my man chat please drop

[02:54:17] some love in eggplants brick little hey you guys that are joining right now you're bringing

[02:54:39] you're bringing some cheesy shit right don't be don't be joining up with me and

[02:54:42] You gotta be you gotta be on the sauce brother. I might be to live with two of you not being on the sauce

[02:54:50] But I need at least three maybe four of us on the sauce

[02:54:54] So I got you brother, I got you.

[02:55:20] the team is coming together oh yeah we

[02:55:27] need to be doing a ray with donkey soon I

[02:55:29] told donkey we're gonna do a ray with

[02:55:30] him you know I'm so terrible back

[02:55:32] answering deans I'm like shitties fucking

[02:55:35] fucking I'm so shitty at it dude

[02:55:41] All right, I think we got everybody.

[02:55:51] All right, a full squad is here.

[02:55:55] I'm going to now swap on my Warlock.

[02:56:00] GeoMax, pretty good.

[02:56:04] Thundercrash is good, too.

[02:56:09] Social Media Manager? Oh no, I like to handle my own DMs. I want to see those dick pics

[02:56:24] First hand

[02:56:46] By the way, the dick pic slowed down fellas with the help. Ah

[02:56:49] We're like a couple years ago. We were getting them every other email now

[02:56:52] No, actually easy easy. I'm fucking joking right now. I'm fucking with y'all. I'm fucking with y'all. Don't see me

[02:56:59] No goddamn doot peeps

[02:57:06] Inflation

[02:57:09] All right, look look we're gonna we're gonna shoot the left one the one on the left side guys

[02:57:14] Do the one on the left side

[02:57:22] I

[02:57:34] Don't even think I can get a tractor somebody get a debuff on this thing. Oh my god. I'm a warlock

[02:57:45] No, I'm used to jumping down on my tight

[02:57:47] Alright now we do it, now we do it, now we do it.

[02:57:54] Fuck, you guys don't even jump, you just float.

[02:58:04] You can track him, but Fafnir is easier.

[02:58:10] All right boys, let's do it!

[02:58:20] To the left, to the left!

[02:58:31] Let's go!

[02:58:34] YAAAHHH!

[02:58:45] That's in gas!

[02:58:57] Was that not amplifying?

[02:59:00] Why are we starting right now, we're starting.

[02:59:05] How am I going to get it both disamplified?

[02:59:10] Is the easiest way for me to become amplified?

[02:59:16] What's the easiest way for me to become amplified, Jack?

[02:59:30] Oh lightning surge that do it

[02:59:49] Is lightning surge really the best

[02:59:56] Hi

[03:00:00] All right guys, let's make sure I did not I forgot the requirement

[03:00:10] Make sure we get up we get a debuff

[03:00:17] Alright, to the left, everyone!

[03:00:42] There we go!

[03:00:43] Yes!

[03:00:44] Yes!

[03:00:46] Yes!

[03:00:47] AHHHHHHHHH!

[03:00:50] Good enough! Good enough!

[03:00:58] Good shit, fellas, good shit.

[03:01:05] Ugh, ha ha ha, limited power.

[03:01:07] Ha ha ha!

[03:01:13] I pretty good run.

[03:01:14] I got a better one already.

[03:01:18] Bewildering?

[03:01:22] Okay, that's perhaps a pretty solid.

[03:01:29] All right.

[03:01:31] Now we're about to do the exact same thing,

[03:01:34] but we're gonna do it too. So you guys hold on up.

[03:01:37] Show, I want you to, show, I want you to bring everyone with you, buddy.

[03:01:42] Make sure the team leader, guys.

[03:01:44] I'm gonna I'm gonna get on my my warlock actually my my hunter. I got a trade checkpoints

[03:01:56] Um, here's the thing we need some we need callouts for this this raid encounter

[03:02:05] Chat this adding feats this adding feats

[03:02:09] rates increase the drop chance for an exotic catalyst of that given rate or is it just RNG?

[03:02:28] It's just RNG.

[03:02:31] Why are so many people in here confidently saying the wrong answer to that?

[03:02:36] why

[03:02:49] What was that what it sucks on this boss what sucks on this boss my super my super sucks that I come join me right now

[03:03:06] Why, why would it suck at his boss?

[03:03:09] That might do. I got a full squad.

[03:03:16] I'm on Final Fantasy 14.

[03:03:19] We tried it yesterday. What does it do?

[03:03:28] It's because it's a brick. Did you try Chaos Reach Delta?

[03:03:36] No damage for some reason.

[03:03:42] Did you try Dremmings?

[03:03:47] Some of the team did.

[03:04:03] don't even hit.

[03:04:20] The bubble time cheese works though.

[03:04:34] We tried it and just doesn't damage, threadlings are asked to, I don't know if it's just not

[03:04:38] worth it.

[03:04:39] That's interesting.

[03:04:42] Okay.

[03:04:44] Well, let's just try try the arm try the bubble cheese I

[03:04:54] Need to get the I need to get the catalyst for

[03:04:57] Terrible is anyone here have the the checkpoint for

[03:05:03] Gallon anyone have one for gallon

[03:07:43] God, Jesus!

[03:12:13] What are we what?

[03:12:35] Did it did it?

[03:12:36] Piece of shit while I was gone.

[03:12:55] Are there no times here?

[03:13:02] Oh, here we go baby, here we go.

[03:13:28] oh my god do it to him baby do it to him

[03:13:52] oh no he has to hide around we got to get some crossbows in there hold up

[03:14:15] oh shit something fucked up

[03:14:22] oh no oh god it's not looking good voice it's not looking good

[03:14:39] almost almost you got it baby keep it going

[03:14:52] I

[03:15:06] Wish you'd I run

[03:15:16] Is adapting

[03:15:22] Wait, why was this show kicked?

[03:15:27] What happened?

[03:15:28] Oh, he's still swapping to the Titan?

[03:15:30] Okay.

[03:15:31] I, too, am swapping to my Titan.

[03:15:36] Let me get my Titan.

[03:15:38] I'm going to bear a bet.

[03:15:40] You can push him out of the map instead of sending him to orbit.

[03:15:51] I'm eating gas station sushi about to spend the rest of my work day in the bathroom

[03:16:09] Hell yeah, brother. Hell yeah.

[03:16:21] I'm gonna be honest, I don't know if I've ever seen gas station sushi.

[03:16:39] It's a California thing.

[03:16:46] Only time as good as in the wide.

[03:16:56] That's what America is all about, Cross, why don't you do high road blocks?

[03:17:21] There are moments that I find the rule to be, you know, alright, you know, I, I like

[03:17:41] parts of life, I suppose, but

[03:17:55] three tells me she's like, we need to travel more. I'm like, I

[03:17:57] travel every day. I go to the moon. You know, I take it to

[03:18:04] The Neptune.

[03:18:10] I'm traveling all the time.

[03:18:16] I went to Europe.

[03:18:18] Oh, EDC.

[03:18:29] All that traveling, I can still sleep in my own bed.

[03:18:34] It ain't all the travel for nothing.

[03:18:49] Dude is this not working

[03:19:04] Thanks brick I can't pick up my shit now good shit bricks

[03:19:19] come to me we may have to do this with jay

[03:19:38] we're gonna try to teach one more time

[03:19:46] Let's try it one more time.

[03:19:48] It's my main, remember Crota's then back in the day, pulling the ethernet cord?

[03:19:56] The amount of time it took to cheese Crota, you could have just done it legit.

[03:20:01] You go learned it organically and executed it legitimately.

[03:20:10] We were so committed to teasing him

[03:20:21] What the fun of that

[03:20:40] No fucking way!

[03:21:02] Oh my god he's mad!

[03:21:17] strong stronger

[03:21:38] Fuck him up boys. Fuck him up

[03:21:47] I

[03:22:14] Where are you going brother

[03:22:17] All right, we're fucked.

[03:22:29] Well, now I feel committed, let's try it one more time, who's the last sign?

[03:22:39] Last sign.

[03:22:42] Imagine doing the Ray the proper way.

[03:22:53] Oh no, right?

[03:22:56] Imagine.

[03:22:58] There's somewhere in the chat I have a gathering checkpoint.

[03:23:03] That was my persistence stat, 21.

[03:23:18] make it higher do it boys do it you're the best cheesers I know greatest cheesers I

[03:23:45] I know we're made for this.

[03:24:04] Oh, you're jumping up and doing it.

[03:24:09] Oh!

[03:24:12] Damn!

[03:24:13] Oh, is that me? Fuck you up!

[03:24:36] Alright, here we go baby, here we go.

[03:24:38] Yeah!

[03:24:40] He's too good with it, he's too good with it, he's too strong Jeff.

[03:24:59] He's too strong, I can't hold him off anymore.

[03:25:10] Don't punch?

[03:25:12] Really don't punch?

[03:25:14] What am I doing?

[03:25:20] He's got so much aura.

[03:25:22] Might probably get him tinier.

[03:25:34] Just run into his feet.

[03:25:36] I just was a pun.

[03:25:38] I just was a punch I need someone in here to give me a

[03:25:46] gather and checkpoint

[03:26:05] Hi persistence so your arrows will last longer all right. Oh my Jesus Christ

[03:26:46] I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that.

[03:26:56] I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that.

[03:27:06] All right was that was that one for three home run indeed to the moon

[03:27:26] what the fuck what what is happening oh no this guy can't get me killed

[03:27:44] He buggered at me down!

[03:27:49] He's a bugger terminator!

[03:27:54] Alright, I...

[03:27:56] Let's try a different gunner.

[03:27:59] Surprise motherfucker.

[03:28:03] We're gonna come back. We're gonna come out. We're gonna do that one legit.

[03:28:11] No, no, no. People have booted him off the map.

[03:28:14] I mean, he obviously didn't die.

[03:28:18] All right, I'm gonna do G.O.'s.

[03:28:21] And I'm going to put myself into this one right here.

[03:28:31] Look, if you're joining up, we need comms right now.

[03:28:33] So you gotta join my discord.

[03:28:35] We are about to farm for Terrible Scatalysts.

[03:28:39] And then I'm gonna farm for Anarchy Scatalysts.

[03:28:44] Let me grab.

[03:28:56] We're doing Thunders again.

[03:29:09] Still got to go through the initial damage here.

[03:29:39] They just clear the cross.

[03:29:50] Are you fucking with me right now?

[03:29:57] I'm loading I'm loading back up you can load up on me I've got the checkpoints you were

[03:30:26] the problem? Sure, I'm sending you an invite, just bring the whole fire team with you.

[03:30:56] Add feats? Why add feats? I thought you said that the feats don't increase the drop chances

[03:31:03] of the exotic catalysts. Are you bullshitting?

[03:31:08] Actually, hold on. I got feats on.

[03:31:25] for the tier five commission.

[03:31:39] All tank patients.

[03:31:43] Five feet increases the drop chances

[03:31:46] of the exotic catalyst.

[03:31:50] Bullshit.

[03:31:53] Where does it say?

[03:31:54] Point me to the literature right now

[03:31:55] where it says that, point me to the literature right now,

[03:31:57] I will, I don't fucking believe you.

[03:32:25] The catalyst is random, people talk out their ass, no one knows for sure.

[03:32:49] You can use logic inside of Destiny, guys.

[03:32:53] If you're like, well, logically, the harder the content, the higher the drop chance, right?

[03:32:57] No.

[03:32:58] This is destiny.

[03:32:59] That's not how things work.

[03:33:01] Actually, logic makes no sense here.

[03:33:06] You know what else that doesn't make sense in this game?

[03:33:08] Rounding.

[03:33:09] All right, y'all show me the shit.

[03:33:18] I can't believe y'all just did this shit without me.

[03:33:21] I can't.

[03:33:22] I believe you'll do this without me.

[03:33:34] I chalk it up to space magic.

[03:33:39] You're the one who left.

[03:33:41] Appreciate that. Don't come in here.

[03:33:46] to create a rift between my teammates and I this is this is our this is a bonding moment here

[03:33:56] not there you're gonna get it

[03:34:08] Oh, it comes down to me, doesn't it?

[03:34:18] Boys, I didn't want to be the hero.

[03:34:26] We have no choice.

[03:34:45] Alright, somebody defucked him up, dude.

[03:34:46] You know what I'm gonna do?

[03:34:47] Somebody defucked him up.

[03:34:54] I do cyber.

[03:34:55] I do. I have a 31-persistent crossbow.

[03:35:08] He's right there on the edge!

[03:35:12] He's so close!

[03:35:21] You have to double melee. The second one is the launch.

[03:35:23] Oh, really?

[03:35:25] Okay, I didn't know I'd react this many professional teasers here

[03:35:34] That they beat your ass

[03:35:37] This is second hits

[03:35:39] Oh my god!

[03:35:51] Chad, I was so sleepy the other day after doing 5 v-pants here that I couldn't feel anything.

[03:36:00] I literally couldn't feel anything and my son, God bless him, made chicken nuggets for us.

[03:36:13] And these fuckers were so hot, they literally burned the skin completely off the roof of

[03:36:20] my mouth.

[03:36:21] but I didn't feel it until the next day or until I do something with that

[03:36:30] because the skin was coming off but I couldn't feel it dude I see there much

[03:36:36] in the shit out of chicken nuggets

[03:36:39] Oh

[03:36:42] Fuckers are pretty good

[03:36:48] All right, buddy, get him get him professor cook

[03:36:55] I too should join you good sir

[03:37:09] All right, hook is down.

[03:37:14] Hook is down.

[03:37:15] Here we go.

[03:37:16] Here we go.

[03:38:16] Do this just once man!

[03:38:23] Don't jump really don't jump really you want to melee from the ground

[03:38:33] Okay, really

[03:38:46] of

[03:39:03] of

[03:39:29] I

[03:39:41] Need to work

[03:39:45] Did it work?

[03:39:49] I feel I have a feeling it did not work

[03:39:52] I'm a feeling it did not work. No, fuckers coming back in

[03:39:56] No

[03:39:59] Oh

[03:40:13] Shit

[03:40:16] What's gonna look at that man and be like wow everyone give me use bubble here, huh?

[03:40:22] There's so many bubble users was really like above

[03:40:29] of

[03:40:54] you feel too old lord

[03:40:57] Oh Lord that's just cheating dude.

[03:41:00] I did wrong.

[03:41:14] Shad!

[03:41:19] Okay I need a higher persistent crossbow.

[03:41:24] Yeah it's not working.

[03:41:25] Let me take a look at crossbow.

[03:41:49] Here we go.

[03:41:50] Here we go.

[03:41:52] Well we've won right here, baby

[03:41:57] I got 56 persistence on that one

[03:42:04] The spring auger bolts fuck up guys

[03:42:14] The amount of time chasing you could have done one legit

[03:42:17] good of Lucy you'll never understand the joy of choosing a boss with that attitude though

[03:42:25] with something beautiful about it yes you can do it the way you thought and we will

[03:42:38] But I'm happy to say that I think I've used about every cheese against bosses inside of

[03:42:50] Destiny.

[03:42:51] Mostly.

[03:42:52] Mostly.

[03:42:53] At least all the ones that uh, that became known.

[03:43:00] I've got uh, 66.

[03:43:03] Get physical

[03:43:09] Get him boys, get him

[03:43:33] Yeah!

[03:43:35] Oh god!

[03:43:41] Why do I keep going backwards?

[03:43:55] Why do I keep going backwards?

[03:44:02] I don't have enough time.

[03:44:15] I don't have enough time.

[03:44:21] No.

[03:44:22] He parried you.

[03:44:25] Man, I still don't know who he's on.

[03:44:31] It's because you're punching, that's why you're backwards?

[03:44:40] Or that I'm told you want to punch twice.

[03:44:45] I had plant bets.

[03:44:48] we cheese him the next two runs this a damn ago come on box and this shit back

[03:44:55] back let's get it next two runs next two runs

[03:45:02] That is that is by the way our damn our eggplant that thing is broken Luke I need to reach

[03:45:23] out to get rekt and figure out what's going on with that.

[03:45:26] It does not work for about a week now.

[03:45:56] It's just lock and never gambling is it's just lock boys

[03:46:26] not good one man down

[03:46:30] Oh my god he's back dude how how how does he change the bus to work?

[03:46:59] I

[03:47:15] Bosses cheating you down

[03:47:18] Come on fucker drop that ass do it

[03:47:29] you

[03:47:42] Yeah, I'm doing damn

[03:47:59] No!

[03:48:16] Dude, I-

[03:48:17] Ha ha ha ha!

[03:48:19] Dude, no!

[03:48:20] This fucker!

[03:48:21] This fucker!

[03:48:22] Y'all are full of shit!

[03:48:23] No one's actually cheese-ed this guy!

[03:48:25] No one-

[03:48:26] No one is actually cheese-ed him!

[03:48:30] There's no way there's no fucking way we booped him off twice

[03:48:39] It's your mega form fast

[03:48:52] Watch this video good for fucking that's a tear

[03:48:56] No!

[03:49:26] of

[03:50:21] Hmm

[03:51:21] Shit!

[03:51:23] We suck ass!

[03:51:43] Sliding jump

[03:51:54] I

[03:52:04] Mots paid out started new bets

[03:52:24] I don't know where they are.

[03:52:54] Let me get let me get this first one

[03:52:58] Cyber you just don't you don't you for say

[03:53:53] I

[03:54:09] Cyber fucked it up

[03:54:11] But off just doing it yourself.

[03:54:26] I did watch a video through Orcus.

[03:54:29] I did watch a video.

[03:54:31] But it's a little orangey.

[03:54:34] Are you coming in here and busting my balls?

[03:54:36] I'm not a motherfucking...

[03:54:37] A motherfucking...

[03:54:38] Are you fucking with me right now?

[03:54:40] Mods you can unbend Arcus when a dozen trees and nabs

[03:55:03] It's super indecisive I literally only came back they said they did it a second ago

[03:55:10] I

[03:55:22] Damn monkey with the team get themselves

[03:55:36] Grouping back rides

[03:55:40] I only one of us going there to punch him right now.

[03:55:55] Who would like to go?

[03:56:06] We're only gonna send show

[03:56:19] I've ever I was anything we're doing it legit we already did it yeah yeah no but I do want

[03:56:32] to go and do this cheese just once look at this

[03:56:39] Yeah.

[03:56:43] Well.

[03:57:01] Put on a square reborn? Yeah, I know that.

[03:57:08] Alright, show us down!

[03:57:09] you're up cyber

[03:57:22] monkey much left you my man much left he's jbfc with a prime thank you thank you

[03:57:28] mind if you're gonna unbat our shoes right now

[03:57:39] I

[03:57:59] Don't believe these guys. They said they did in a second. I don't believe it

[03:58:09] That's not going to work, he's going to come right back.

[03:58:39] Yeah, he's gotta be moving much faster than that.

[03:59:02] Never.

[03:59:32] She has a marathon sphero.

[03:59:41] People wear marathon shirts, rock and marathon spheroes.

[03:59:44] All right, I'm going to get this one more time.

[03:59:46] And then I'm leaving.

[03:59:48] I'm going to go form Galar and also form this encounter.

[03:59:59] Really, we should just do this encounter.

[04:00:02] What I got a hunter on my hunter as a chick one you need to use heavy boats on the bow

[04:00:18] Gathering I thought gathering drops the terrible countless rights

[04:00:37] Up against the wall guys do it up against the wall

[04:00:48] What's that? Wait, wait, wait. Is the anarchy catalyst not progressive?

[04:01:08] I SAVE what the deadgift is saaaaaaaze!

[04:01:15] save with the big 10 thank you so much my man anarchy is but terrible isn't oh so

[04:01:23] this time I'm worth going for terrible right now terrible anarchy is not

[04:01:30] I thought it was uh, I thought it was uh, Jotun's D-back, right?

[04:01:48] Jotun's actually, that's actually really good for him.

[04:01:50] Good for me.

[04:01:55] Ah, Joe, I say thank you for my time.

[04:01:58] Check out these guns and love.

[04:02:20] Oh my god.

[04:03:20] Oh my god, alright fine guys, let's just do it legit, let's just do it legit dude.

[04:03:33] Good lord.

[04:03:34] Let's give it one more time, we'll give it one more time, one more time, it's the last

[04:03:41] time we're going to cheese.

[04:03:42] I never get to do it again.

[04:03:45] I'll reload this.

[04:03:48] I

[04:03:54] Looked you with the most but well no, I'm being told the artifact cheese doesn't work on this boss

[04:03:59] Somebody look into that. I'm being told that the artifact cheese for whatever reason

[04:04:05] Just doesn't work with this boss

[04:04:18] Chaos may work with Divinity, we didn't test it.

[04:04:26] Voko, you wanna join me right now?

[04:04:29] We've got some people here that I think are going to be leaving right after this.

[04:04:36] It seems not.

[04:04:38] Well, Divinity may actually work.

[04:04:41] Divinity might work.

[04:04:43] Stop shooting the front of the ball, only shoot the back.

[04:04:47] Oh, only the fact! Okay, okay.

[04:04:50] Ooh, are you right here?

[04:05:17] That fuck is going to spawn in right here in the middle, forget him, forget him.

[04:05:34] I don't think I can do it.

[04:06:04] Oh my god, who's back there?

[04:06:28] Damn dude, damn!

[04:06:30] No luck boys, no luck.

[04:06:44] Cyber, I've literally watched you do this 20 fucking times and you've

[04:06:50] unsuccessfully done this.

[04:06:53] Cyber, I'll give you your own go.

[04:07:00] Cydre, you give one opportunity right now.

[04:07:04] If you get it first try, I will make you a mod in this stream.

[04:07:11] And allow you to execute two mods of your choice.

[04:07:28] What happens if he fails?

[04:07:31] Is that ass?

[04:07:32] Can I also get a lick up and down?

[04:07:38] Loco, close your eyes, extend that tongue, just let it happen.

[04:07:55] I

[04:08:20] Cyber says he's got the ships

[04:08:55] I'm sorry, but what happened?

[04:09:10] What happened?

[04:09:11] hahahaha

[04:09:24] How did you do the pre-leg?

[04:09:30] Mods

[04:09:32] That's Recybers name

[04:09:35] So that I may do this myself

[04:10:41] I'm going to get on my warlock and we're going to see how warlock us.

[04:10:54] We're going to try the cheese.

[04:10:57] Wait, hold on.

[04:10:59] I'm going to get my hunter first.

[04:11:04] People that are joining right now, I need you to know the mechanics for Insurrection

[04:11:07] Prime.

[04:11:08] Why do I need you to know the mechanics?

[04:11:12] Cuz I barely know the fucking mechanics be honest with you. I'm just being real I

[04:11:18] Turn that off

[04:11:32] No, it's ACP it's fucking ACP throw a job

[04:11:41] This ACP, he don't even, how does he even make sense alphabetical order, ACP.

[04:11:58] Oh my god, dude, cab wasn't even a turn back then.

[04:12:06] Alright, join on me and join discord cyber you could join actually cyber do you not

[04:12:23] know the do you not know the encounter cyber do you know the encounter

[04:12:26] We're gonna do this encounter legit, I need people in comms.

[04:12:47] Warlock Jesus and work boss, Clune, doesn't work with divinity.

[04:12:52] Remember, I just had this whole conversation with low coaches now.

[04:12:56] Does it work with divinity?

[04:12:59] If divinity is propped, will it work with warlock?

[04:13:21] Klune, you heard what I just said?

[04:13:26] Clone, you have to- I'm working, I don't know.

[04:13:44] Chat, don't be like clone.

[04:14:01] If you believe something, you need to do your own testing and verification.

[04:14:07] I don't know, I'm at work, but stating things as fact when you yourself not tested

[04:14:13] Also coming in here and flexing your employments good for you good for you

[04:14:20] you.

[04:14:40] I need people to join.

[04:14:42] Who would like to join me?

[04:14:43] We're doing three feet.

[04:14:45] We're going to be farming Instruction Prime for an anarchic analyst.

[04:14:49] Mac is testing things.

[04:15:10] Every face, yep.

[04:15:25] Is there really no one else here that knows the encounter?

[04:15:35] I know it, but I can't join. I'm sorry. That's okay, Loco. I know you're working on the list

[04:15:51] right now for every weapon in the game and the rating system next to it. That's completely

[04:15:56] fine, but take your time. It's a lot of weapons. It's approximately 400 weapons in total.

[04:16:02] So spend your time on that one.

[04:16:07] Kiddosas, thank you so much for the gift, my man.

[04:16:15] I need the checkpoints.

[04:16:18] Look, if you're gonna be a checkpoint hoe,

[04:16:20] you can go to checkpoint bots or something,

[04:16:23] you know what I mean?

[04:16:26] That's fine, but we're actually doing the encounter here.

[04:16:32] You go to you're gonna lock checkpoint bots

[04:16:39] Check one body struggling

[04:16:46] All right, let's see I'm gonna go get back on my warlock we're gonna try cheesiness with divinity

[04:16:56] What's wrong with checkpoint bots was there they do you're just overloading him

[04:17:02] by the way if you're in this race squad join general and then I'll drag you also four

[04:17:30] around or Q, God, oh, get man.

[04:17:34] That's when you know the game is cooking.

[04:17:36] So how are you gonna kill this shit?

[04:17:39] It's raw with y'all.

[04:19:00] Do you stream on weekends?

[04:19:17] I do, my man.

[04:19:18] Or at least Saturday.

[04:19:19] Something I do at the spend time with the family.

[04:19:23] Turns out after you have children you actually have to spend time with them.

[04:19:33] I don't know if you do that, I didn't fucking know that before I ended up with them.

[04:19:43] I'm going to be there.

[04:19:56] How about joining?

[04:20:00] Who else is here?

[04:20:06] Who else is here?

[04:20:09] is everyone very familiar with this encounter yes yes we're gonna try being

[04:20:20] told that the cheese doesn't work but has anyone tried it with divinity it works

[04:20:25] with divinity it does all right that's just a house features that with the

[04:20:32] floodings as a chaos reach threadling on the threadlings to work and we're

[04:20:37] with a chaos reach gal ron by like going up from his sack upward it worked let's

[04:20:45] let's do how many people have dundas with chaos reach

[04:20:53] that's just I think we can nuke them like it's in one phase no problem

[04:21:07] What did you say?

[04:21:08] You said start on a sack?

[04:21:14] I don't want to press, but I mean I'm going to use the restroom and we're good to go,

[04:21:34] okay guys?

[04:21:35] yeah so we got about a 15-minute wait

[04:21:52] you know he's going to the bathroom not getting food so I think we'll be okay

[04:21:57] Dude, all I'm saying is if I got that free lick beforehand, man, what a guy.

[04:22:04] I'm all on the side of the valley.

[04:22:12] Like this.

[04:22:57] I

[04:24:27] All right, let's do it.

[04:24:44] Who's reading that?

[04:24:48] Okay, what groups are we in?

[04:24:54] Professor go underneath, play angle.

[04:25:00] I'm going to go under first.

[04:25:02] Yeah, I honestly don't even know.

[04:25:06] Your shadow just ran around and followed us down to- what's the- what was I even doing

[04:25:11] your shadow?

[04:25:12] I think we won't- I would go underneath first as well.

[04:25:15] I was going underneath and hitting square is what I was doing.

[04:25:22] I

[04:25:24] Triangle

[04:25:26] There's only a circle

[04:25:29] Yeah, I was going to do something underneath before we get server. Who's got diff here, by the way. Oh

[04:25:37] Nobody's got diff on

[04:25:39] I guess that's it.

[04:25:42] If you I would say if you're not teasing put on diff

[04:25:45] Yeah, I got you

[04:25:47] The bitch it is.

[04:26:12] That's with Sony filing, who was it that filed the AI thing?

[04:26:22] For video games.

[04:26:24] I wonder if there's gonna come a day where people won't play video games anymore.

[04:26:31] Like they'll play video games, but then like halfway through the video game they're just

[04:26:36] gonna go, Jesus take the wheel and then the AI is just gonna kill the boss.

[04:26:43] You know what I mean?

[04:26:44] They're gonna be, they're gonna be, they're gonna be killing, they're gonna be fighting

[04:26:47] in Elden Ring and they're just gonna, they'll be like, I have been shit on 30 times.

[04:26:55] and then AI takes the wheel.

[04:27:11] All right.

[04:27:14] All right.

[04:27:15] We got Dave on the good.

[04:27:16] I think that's what, I think that's what Loco was doing.

[04:27:19] He was part of the first group and then he just sprinted the map.

[04:27:22] Yeah, I see that.

[04:27:25] Who's in my group with me?

[04:27:27] Who's in my group?

[04:27:29] Two, two, two, two.

[04:27:33] I'll be the last two.

[04:27:37] Me, Brandon, show us our last squad.

[04:27:41] Okay.

[04:27:43] I'm gonna put our first squad so then I go read.

[04:27:47] Okay.

[04:27:49] Let's go.

[04:27:55] and

[04:28:03] where they at

[04:28:08] are we all down here

[04:28:10] yep we're looking for a single mount

[04:28:13] am I with the first group on this?

[04:28:16] alright I'm a triangle

[04:28:18] I'm a circle

[04:28:20] I'm a sperm

[04:28:21] I'm just a sperm

[04:28:22] three two one

[04:28:23] One, melee.

[04:28:26] I'll kill Cerberus.

[04:28:29] I don't know, I was gonna...

[04:28:31] Take this 4B down.

[04:28:33] Yeah.

[04:28:38] I didn't... yeah, I was gonna go first group so I could read the map.

[04:28:44] I feel some other distance to get started.

[04:28:50] Alright, what are we doing to get out of this?

[04:28:52] I don't know if I can read map here, it says just to be the first group to get, so then I can read.

[04:29:22] Where we going to kill this guy?

[04:29:27] Right, right, right.

[04:29:30] Nice.

[04:29:32] Nice squire.

[04:29:34] Thank you.

[04:29:40] If I'm going down to someone reading.

[04:29:43] I'm going to this boss.

[04:29:46] Let me out.

[04:29:49] it is going the process first one I have second one bottom right bottom left so

[04:29:59] cross is going bottom left bottom left is in you're facing the front boss right

[04:30:07] now that's left yeah and these are you go to the other side yeah we're on my

[04:30:12] All the guys

[04:30:22] Feel breaking I can read math for this one. All right Duncan now

[04:30:29] Bottom right was not the call for me

[04:30:42] How do we cover them this?

[04:30:47] Very good.

[04:30:50] I'll go read.

[04:30:52] I'll go read missing buffs you get buffed.

[04:30:56] Game grand need to get buffed.

[04:31:07] Are you down cyber?

[04:31:10] The only people that don't have the box that's down right now?

[04:31:14] Yeah, I think that's our blood preserter.

[04:31:17] Facing some fights.

[04:31:25] Oh well I think it's wiped.

[04:31:27] So we just had a poor call on that, is that right?

[04:31:31] Yeah.

[04:31:31] What was, um...

[04:31:34] Let's show...

[04:31:36] Let it show, be part of our first group, so then I can just get out immediately and read map.

[04:31:40] And I know I know but it's the word about it. Okay me crossing Joe for first group in

[04:31:47] Okay, I

[04:31:49] Just show them happen and second we can go down

[04:31:54] So then I'll stay up top and I'll get

[04:31:56] And go on the second one

[04:32:10] Oh, I understand.

[04:32:12] It's up to them to go out.

[04:32:14] They would have crossed us up.

[04:32:15] You were talking.

[04:32:16] All right, so we're going underneath.

[04:32:19] Yep.

[04:32:20] I'll get square.

[04:32:23] I guess it doesn't really matter which one we get right here for first skirt, right?

[04:32:26] Yeah, and last night we were just like,

[04:32:28] Just wait for the rune.

[04:32:29] Okay.

[04:32:30] One of each of the ones is dead.

[04:32:31] There's four down there.

[04:32:34] And then we were just matching with whoever had our matching for DPS.

[04:32:40] I

[04:32:48] Have

[04:32:52] Triangle

[04:32:57] Because I'm not far right side. I'll kill Brick kill Brick

[04:33:06] He's on my phone, right?

[04:33:10] I'm going to do it now, I'm going to do it now, I'm going to do it now, I'm going to

[04:33:36] Yep, he's here.

[04:33:38] Well, do we go under?

[04:33:40] Yeah, let's see if the second thing that we go under.

[04:33:47] Is everyone down?

[04:33:49] I swear, we're under.

[04:33:50] I'm not circle.

[04:33:52] I'm not triangle.

[04:33:53] I'll drop the first one, dude.

[04:33:55] I got the first one first.

[04:33:57] Bottom right. Both bottom right.

[04:33:59] Second one?

[04:34:00] Okay.

[04:34:01] You go first.

[04:34:02] Both bottom right as in, you're facing the boss now.

[04:34:05] Space in the box. Now. Yeah, it's night closest to show to I guess my right your left as I'm coming out

[04:34:19] You guys can tell server there whenever you got a chance I got it in

[04:34:28] If you guys feel free and then it will be a little less

[04:34:35] Reserker. Middle left, I'll go to that.

[04:34:44] Be free.

[04:34:49] Right here, no.

[04:34:54] We're done. Thank you, boss.

[04:34:58] Still alive. You said middle left. Middle left, yep. Yeah, back up, I think it.

[04:35:35] I

[04:35:43] Got the

[04:35:51] I don't think the bosses shields are down yet

[04:36:05] Yeah, I mean I've just showed the shields I hit the critspots

[04:36:15] Everybody got snipers and then just so so just one person needs to be on the time correct

[04:36:22] Yeah, you just want to show them and then damage

[04:36:27] What do we say the orders for DPS was it ACP ACP

[04:36:33] Okay

[04:36:55] Let's say like last night before we went down like across and show like we can just take down like a couple of weak points

[04:37:02] Yeah, we were doing much nine. Oh, yes, right. We can do that. Oh

[04:37:09] I think we're missing a dunk while you guys are in this and we could probably deposit or at least you're going down there is it

[04:37:17] Yeah, we have enough time

[04:37:21] I'm getting this crystal in the back

[04:37:24] Be point

[04:37:26] There's two back ones need going

[04:37:32] I was on my knee, his left knee, it's gone, go on, shoulder, you know, shoulder down,

[04:37:44] other shoulder, got nice.

[04:37:47] Alright, I'm going to square.

[04:37:50] Yeah, I made a thing.

[04:37:54] Are you guys in?

[04:37:55] I'm not in with y'all.

[04:37:56] Yeah, I didn't hit yet.

[04:37:57] I'm ready.

[04:37:58] I'm waiting on y'all.

[04:37:59] I didn't hit any

[04:38:01] I did

[04:38:03] I was in front of the bridge, we kill the bridge

[04:38:05] We're just having a crew of three

[04:38:07] and this is not my plan

[04:38:09] I'll just come to you

[04:38:11] We're done

[04:38:13] Is there a reason why you're close?

[04:38:15] I hit first

[04:38:17] Okay, okay

[04:38:19] I can help you, sir

[04:38:21] Is anyone pick up trying them?

[04:38:23] I'm left

[04:38:25] I didn't pick up a thing

[04:38:27] I'm taking them square

[04:38:39] I think you have 4 people down there right now

[04:38:41] I'm pretty dead

[04:38:48] Alright

[04:38:50] I'm gonna back out

[04:38:52] I don't know

[04:38:54] Top block is over here

[04:39:27] Okay.

[04:39:35] Can I see Brig anymore?

[04:39:37] Uh, I'll be alright.

[04:39:46] Can one of your boys kill Brig?

[04:39:48] Yeah.

[04:39:50] I can preserve the two top right now, I can protect them.

[04:39:59] Uh, middle.

[04:40:00] The middle's actually top.

[04:40:01] Like, all the way top at all.

[04:40:02] Go top, okay.

[04:40:03] I'll go second.

[04:40:04] First, bottom right.

[04:40:05] Hold bottom right.

[04:40:06] First, uh, bottom right.

[04:40:13] Hold bottom right.

[04:40:18] What?

[04:40:20] Monkey!

[04:40:22] With that dragon gift it's us!

[04:40:29] Thank you for this.

[04:40:36] Yeah, good thing.

[04:40:40] You ready to damage?

[04:40:43] No, no.

[04:40:45] So, we're doing ACP?

[04:40:47] C.A.P. C.A.P. C.A.P.

[04:40:50] I'm out of here right now.

[04:40:52] I need one of y'all to go ahead and get the um,

[04:40:54] get given there, get given there.

[04:40:56] I'm getting out there by the millions right now.

[04:41:01] I'm not getting it really.

[04:41:02] You should have died.

[04:41:03] Dude, CAP, motherfuckers, you're standing on this.

[04:41:08] Middle.

[04:41:09] It's like a triangle.

[04:41:10] God damn it.

[04:41:11] A in the middle.

[04:41:16] Just like that.

[04:41:21] All right.

[04:41:22] I'm going to show y'all real quick.

[04:41:25] I'll show you real quick.

[04:41:30] What does discharge radiance mean?

[04:41:33] Oh, that might be my fault.

[04:41:37] Did it change there?

[04:41:40] It probably did change there.

[04:41:42] It changed there.

[04:41:44] Okay, okay.

[04:41:46] What did I do?

[04:41:49] My bad, my bad.

[04:41:51] Look, for real though, um, I need, um, the div guide just to call out as soon as, because I can't really see the bubble.

[04:42:00] Just call out whenever, um, you're doing the buff.

[04:42:05] You still have to aim for his eye.

[04:42:07] Good.

[04:42:10] Uh, second group, let me get, let me get the top one, ay, just so I can get my thunder crash off, at least for each.

[04:42:21] I won't grab this time, uh, early.

[04:42:25] You might pick yourself whoever's reading map, Mars.

[04:42:28] Uh, the first map we could go is on stairs.

[04:42:31] Uh, I don't know.

[04:42:32] Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm grabbing this.

[04:42:34] I can tell you where you're going, there's a map out there.

[04:42:36] When you come out, you'll be on the left.

[04:42:51] Shoulders on

[04:42:53] back down

[04:42:55] So that's it. I'm gonna need it. I'll go I'll go right

[04:43:03] I'm already here at a triangle

[04:43:10] I'm not square

[04:43:12] So whenever you're ready, buddy. Yeah, you got it. Yeah

[04:43:21] We're gonna go under yeah, no now and again let me get a

[04:43:29] Hand map once again the triangle

[04:43:34] But he said top left circles first it's top left yet

[04:43:38] There we go.

[04:43:45] There it is, it goes over on the top.

[04:43:53] Got it.

[04:43:54] I'm picking up first one, follow.

[04:43:56] Got him left.

[04:43:58] And top knit.

[04:44:00] There.

[04:44:02] We ready to punch it?

[04:44:04] We ready to punch it?

[04:44:07] We're gonna bring it to the top mid too.

[04:44:09] Yeah, punch it.

[04:44:10] Punch it already.

[04:44:11] Oh.

[04:44:12] Where's the Brigade?

[04:44:13] I got it.

[04:44:14] It's down there.

[04:44:15] We're out.

[04:44:16] Yeah, we're out.

[04:44:17] Make sure you're getting anti-flying.

[04:44:18] Don't look at the damage, guys.

[04:44:19] Yeah.

[04:44:20] The next one.

[04:44:21] out make sure you're getting answer five don't look at the damage guys yeah

[04:44:31] the next one it is bottom right are we doing DPS on map side or base in

[04:44:42] and that's on

[04:44:45] yeah I think wherever he's facing right

[04:44:48] here

[04:45:06] bottom right first pickup

[04:45:09] and top made in a second

[04:45:14] tanks in the spawn on the top one

[04:45:24] tanks gonna be on new cross

[04:45:34] hi guys, you ready?

[04:45:36] he's facing us

[04:45:39] David's up.

[04:45:48] Why am I getting all of them here?

[04:45:50] I don't know, I'm getting all of them.

[04:45:52] Graph, we switched, we switched, we switched.

[04:45:54] I'm at A's though.

[04:45:58] Everybody's still on the way.

[04:46:00] Yeah, let's go.

[04:46:06] I don't know why David's not fucking out.

[04:46:09] I was hitting all the means in the first phase with my chaos reach bro.

[04:46:28] Yeah, we worked to make it that easy.

[04:46:30] Take a look, take a look.

[04:46:32] Like it's true? Good.

[04:46:33] Here?

[04:46:34] No.

[04:46:35] There's no barriers.

[04:46:36] I do my chest reach on and then when he goes back on it.

[04:46:39] Refurbish is really good.

[04:46:40] Yeah, if I had a refurbished on because I was just mainly using like LMG

[04:46:44] for like active clearing and shit.

[04:46:45] Look at the damage.

[04:46:46] See, we just get all the means on that.

[04:46:48] Yeah.

[04:46:49] And now we're...

[04:46:50] So I did.

[04:46:51] My damage hit by a bad previous hit was fine.

[04:46:54] I could do like 90.

[04:46:55] So it's my respect.

[04:46:56] I got a lot of the means and then I just swapped

[04:46:58] to my alone as a god why is my chaos reskidding amuse yeah I was in the right

[04:47:04] spot reminds you I was in the do the end it was no crits like the bubble wouldn't

[04:47:09] pop

[04:47:12] I think if I switch to Snifers meditation, I think we killed it, got the inn there.

[04:47:36] Because we could.

[04:47:40] You get immune regardless, the thought works.

[04:47:49] I'm on the side, I'm making my way back in every time.

[04:47:51] Let me get, uh, let me know, I don't want to get crying anymore.

[04:47:54] Who's, who's...

[04:47:58] There's someone else.

[04:48:00] I'm hitting it from the seaside and it's...

[04:48:03] I don't want to mess anything to do with me being...

[04:48:05] Did you have Angler right there, Lisa?

[04:48:08] Uh, I had P.

[04:48:10] For that first one.

[04:48:11] Yeah, I don't know.

[04:48:33] I guess the left knee is the one.

[04:49:05] Don't hit that one. Don't hit that one. That's bad.

[04:49:07] No, that's intended. That's meant to like, kill you.

[04:49:12] Very good middle.

[04:49:14] I got C.

[04:49:17] Three from the top.

[04:49:18] Quick dead.

[04:49:24] Going under.

[04:49:25] Yeah, me too.

[04:49:26] Make sure, like I said, let me get triangle.

[04:49:29] You guys are going...

[04:49:31] Trac was on the bremsen.

[04:49:32] How many are there?

[04:49:33] here

[04:49:35] wait

[04:49:39] it's been tough back with the top left we're like all the full this time

[04:49:47] we can melee it

[04:49:51] i'm the first one

[04:49:53] break when you guys can

[04:49:55] bottom right

[04:49:57] and then top middle

[04:50:03] I'm looking for Brig.

[04:50:08] On my side.

[04:50:13] Brig, come around.

[04:50:19] Where's the berserker?

[04:50:21] Bottom right. Second berserker.

[04:50:33] me ask the question is the immune damage because our other person who asked the buff not standing

[04:50:43] in that spot is that it?

[04:50:46] I bought him right for a year and top mid, top mid second.

[04:50:53] Alright so whoever is on C, everyone needs to be in the right spot.

[04:50:59] Like a triangle a is always gonna be directly from the boss when we're facing the boss

[04:51:04] See is always gonna be left

[04:51:06] Like a like a triangle is about getting in place and the same with you, okay?

[04:51:11] and take

[04:51:14] Hey, cyber's got it who's on C with me?

[04:51:20] I face the boss guys, Vincent. I'm coming to you now

[04:52:24] You know you you said to be one or the other

[04:52:30] So did you happen I didn't have amplified no, I didn't have

[04:52:35] Do you want an easy way to get amplified?

[04:52:38] Yep, sure do

[04:52:40] Okay, I think I

[04:52:42] Think boat charge stacks right when you get fully boat charge stacks aren't you amplified? I think yeah, that's awesome

[04:52:48] uh

[04:52:59] Artifact are you doing limit break or thunderous retort? Yeah

[04:53:04] Here here stand right here stand right here pop your pop your boat charge artifact your uh, you should run

[04:53:13] Wait till you wait till you get 10 stacks see what happens

[04:53:15] I think it's Flash over.

[04:53:25] Yeah, I just keep a couple of tracked mobs alive again there.

[04:53:33] Yeah, I'll do that.

[04:53:42] I was on P and I was hitting the Mew and I just moved it slightly like I wasn't even looking at him and then it started showing damage.

[04:53:49] Interesting.

[04:53:52] I had moved it slightly left where I was hitting his arm instead of his face and it was working.

[04:53:57] Just captured, just don't want to work for me so I'm swapping.

[04:54:12] Way to drop your name come show me how to do it then buddy. I'm all ears my man

[04:54:23] I just I just feel like we should keep working this guy

[04:54:27] I'd sue for these

[04:54:31] Make sure just everyone here needs to get amplified. I'm literally just using lightning surge

[04:54:34] I'm not sure I'm having fun.

[04:54:40] If there weren't, you could just slide me in.

[04:54:48] That was awesome.

[04:54:52] Thank you.

[04:54:56] There you go.

[04:54:58] I'm not throwing it.

[04:55:10] Hit mine. Ready?

[04:55:11] Right there. Good grade.

[04:55:12] Good sign.

[04:55:16] Right there.

[04:55:21] I don't know how to get my right one.

[04:55:23] What does the job do?

[04:55:24] Circle.

[04:55:25] cool

[04:55:27] where did you get that square?

[04:55:32] where is the square?

[04:55:34] we are not taking the burden to get crossed out

[04:55:37] alright

[04:55:42] we are down

[04:55:43] come on, keep moving

[04:55:45] bottom right is uh

[04:55:51] bottom right you said is the reserve?

[04:55:53] bottom right

[04:55:56] Look on the on the if you're a let's back it up a little bit. Don't do a full trial

[04:56:03] Cyber and professor don't grab square

[04:56:05] I just got an teacher. No, I'm coming back grab square

[04:56:15] Okay, do your thing buddy

[04:56:17] We know the person with the upper circle

[04:56:19] If we do right, what was the color? Okay?

[04:56:23] bottom right

[04:56:25] Wait, I think

[04:56:38] But I'm right and top then

[04:56:44] We can kill break I mean cooking it up

[04:56:55] The second is bottom left.

[04:57:25] And he go back and grab another one and now

[04:57:30] So I've already grabbed one like I picked this one up

[04:57:39] Well, I choose someone there bottom left we got another

[04:57:46] We'll pick up cross and make them go bottom left

[04:58:19] Everyone in here is taking advantage of the ball, correct?

[04:58:23] The artifact mods?

[04:58:24] Yeah, it's not working for me.

[04:58:27] Not worth it.

[04:58:29] With that second group, let me get triangle.

[04:58:31] Who's in that one for diesel?

[04:58:34] Yeah, it's doing the amunes and low damage.

[04:58:39] You've got like 150k that last round.

[04:58:43] I'm not even getting any kind of super high damage.

[04:58:46] Are you you gotta are you making sure you're tethered and try shooting? It's like the damage is obviously really good

[04:58:52] I'm in my right spot. I'm amplified under she tore all that and hitting amunes or just low damage

[04:59:05] So I just walked

[04:59:16] So now we're required to pull cheese with people?

[04:59:36] Ray?

[04:59:37] Sash?

[04:59:38] McRot?

[04:59:39] No, I'm not requiring us to be full cheese.

[04:59:44] But if I ever play with you, thousand percent I'm gonna have to cheese.

[04:59:47] Because there's no possible way you and I will ever successfully be able to do a rage run together

[04:59:52] without you being cheesed at your fucking mind.

[04:59:55] You gotta be fully submerged in that shit for us to make it through that encounter.

[04:59:59] Even the ease of rage encounter.

[05:00:02] You make it fucking the most legendary, salvation's edge, conquering the goddamn witness.

[05:00:08] It's a do or die life or death situation every time we've raided together

[05:00:19] That's locked hold on have y'all got anything decent. Yeah, I got a triangle

[05:00:27] Hold on I still gotta get mine guys

[05:00:32] You can come out

[05:00:38] Yeah, let me get triangle.

[05:00:46] Rezaker is...

[05:00:49] Middle left.

[05:01:00] Tell his brother to break when you can.

[05:01:04] Thank you.

[05:01:08] We're out here

[05:01:11] These are worth we're gonna kill each other

[05:01:31] I'm running first bottom left

[05:01:38] That's berserker.

[05:01:41] In a second I have to kill my...

[05:01:51] Prince and that berserker is copyright.

[05:02:01] Okay man.

[05:02:02] Even foolish he's the best the best couldn't carry me

[05:02:15] I'm trying to pay me to carry you

[05:02:18] Fucking I'm ready. What is the last shit?

[05:02:20] I'll grab thank you. You can get ready Brent

[05:02:26] But we try to let me try to make me fucking feel bad for you right now

[05:02:33] Yeah

[05:02:35] You're just such looking at you. Yeah, I'm a start this I'm up to those ankle firm. Yeah

[05:02:41] and the tanks

[05:02:47] The on bremson be over here is it y'all the on shelf do it on

[05:02:51] move move move if you need to move

[05:03:02] we're taking damage you're not gonna move

[05:03:05] who do you are the other crits are gone

[05:03:12] Professor, what was your buff right there?

[05:03:21] It just wished to be, I was switching over, I was taking damage from somewhere else.

[05:03:26] So, this is so strange.

[05:03:30] The round is, people are just dying right here because you're not...

[05:03:35] Look at the buff on the top of your screens and swap to your location.

[05:03:39] Yeah, mine was A, mine's State A.

[05:03:42] So I stayed in a

[05:03:46] Looks like the bolt charges causing you mean to happen

[05:03:52] These I really think your damage would be appreciated here to go back to G is

[05:04:00] You get the just to get the kill off

[05:04:05] Okay

[05:04:12] All right boys this we're going on our fifth time here, okay

[05:04:25] You're this motherfucker

[05:04:27] No, we're gonna have another fifth time dude. I know people then that just picked up this game last week

[05:04:31] I got a clear before us right now

[05:04:34] I mean, I gotta I mean I got the clears last night. So I mean I don't want you want me to do

[05:04:38] I want you to do better. What do you mean I want you to do

[05:04:42] I literally told you I was reaching the last 3 tries bro and it wasn't working and I swapped bro. I'm not the one dying during DBS.

[05:04:53] Sorry.

[05:04:58] Let's just try before we just complete the give up on Chaos Reach right now.

[05:05:04] Why don't we just try one more time.

[05:05:07] Make sure we're tethered in the right spot.

[05:05:09] spot and see what I guess they're on the left

[05:05:29] you should watch out oh no I have not got my guys hold on I wish not for that

[05:05:34] triangle on brends room oh he didn't agree

[05:05:38] he didn't agree

[05:05:42] left mid

[05:05:43] uh that's the first person

[05:05:44] first person kill brending

[05:05:45] breg is mid

[05:05:47] he's on map

[05:05:52] dead

[05:05:53] they're dead

[05:05:55] they're crossed

[05:05:58] and it's left middle person first person

[05:06:00] again i'm picking a triangle

[05:06:02] And that is

[05:06:04] That's fair

[05:06:06] What's the color?

[05:06:08] Left middle

[05:06:09] Axis, take this big armor

[05:06:12] He has a cap

[05:06:16] Thank you

[05:06:18] I have that, bro

[05:06:20] Yep, perfect, I do

[05:06:25] Fuck me

[05:06:32] bottom right, bottom left, like the blue surfer is bottom right

[05:06:50] I will be on C. I will be on A. I will be on A, it's worth it.

[05:07:15] left.

[05:07:16] Up mid.

[05:07:25] We can make him face the top.

[05:07:27] I can take it off fast.

[05:07:34] At least somebody's grabbing him so I'm good.

[05:07:39] Are you ready?

[05:07:40] I'm pushing.

[05:07:41] Don't get to the mid.

[05:07:42] Don't get to the mid.

[05:08:13] Every coming yeah, the crits are gone right there

[05:08:19] No, I fucked up there at the beginning bar these did you get it here's that time?

[05:08:23] That's so weird. I'm not that time. Okay. I think it literally resisted to have the risk you come before

[05:08:43] Oh, yeah, that is true that is true

[05:08:51] I can have multiple mmm, that's a good point

[05:09:00] I'll make sure to get Amphibied this time.

[05:09:07] That's the name you clear.

[05:09:15] Hopefully I'll get Amphibied.

[05:09:20] Got the Shreds now.

[05:09:24] I am going in right here. Are we all going clockwise?

[05:10:07] That's where don't kill yet. I need to find one that

[05:10:20] No, I think it's literally between you two

[05:11:07] they're not

[05:11:21] you have a good kill group whenever you can

[05:11:24] grab a burst

[05:11:26] bottom left

[05:11:28] and second bottom right

[05:11:37] I want you to place that tongue starting from the front.

[05:11:48] Take your way to the right.

[05:11:55] Preferably stopping in the middle along the right.

[05:12:03] that could be zerk or bottom right

[05:12:11] well whoever's angler we're gonna back up a little bit okay almost like a

[05:12:16] service doing a triangle just three of course so that I got I got breathing

[05:12:20] room or who's who's angler actually is it is the thunder crash angler professor

[05:12:24] yeah okay okay now we could be a little close to bottom right which is

[05:12:27] I need to make sure you and I are both dead and...

[05:12:29] Bottom left.

[05:12:33] Can we do the continuous go?

[05:12:35] Grenade's in.

[05:12:38] I'll show it also. I'll be with you.

[05:12:42] Grenade.

[05:12:43] Grenade now.

[05:12:48] Alright, that's our lid.

[05:12:51] Damage.

[05:12:55] Professor, I'm coming to you right now.

[05:12:56] There's the big one.

[05:13:05] Just hit him.

[05:13:07] Switch, switch, switch.

[05:13:08] Switching, switching.

[05:13:10] Oh my god, that's so hot.

[05:13:12] There it was.

[05:13:14] I believed I never, I never got it.

[05:13:17] There's a thing I was telling you.

[05:13:20] There it is.

[05:13:23] first

[05:13:25] oh my god

[05:13:27] are you serious

[05:13:29] damn

[05:13:31] damn

[05:13:33] wow the u's just

[05:13:35] u's just

[05:13:37] i fell down

[05:13:41] i got 5 bombs

[05:13:43] that's awesome

[05:13:45] i hope this thing floats man

[05:13:47] game's easy

[05:13:49] i'm so jealous

[05:13:51] well boys it's been a pleasure you want to do some mom y'all do gallery or y'all

[05:13:58] go y'all go I'm assuming y'all are still going for an okay right I'm down again

[05:14:02] just I come down with you guys oh my god I gotta the one two punch trench

[05:14:09] barrel roll I guess that's the guy roll huh that's a Titan God roll but okay

[05:14:18] That's what is what is a swashbuckler role to me? That's a shit you literally play into

[05:14:28] Um

[05:14:30] Yeah, let's look around go do some callus

[05:14:32] I'm not callus. Yeah, we're got it gather

[05:14:36] Big chunk is I'm assuming we're gonna instantly nuke them as well

[05:14:40] Oh, yeah

[05:14:43] Take a look I was getting a lot of amunes right there. That was literally all you guys

[05:14:47] show at 144 these are you so good you are right though when you hit the chaos

[05:14:55] reached to the left like literally the left side for whatever reason he was

[05:15:00] able to get him in his armors I'm sure it's weird let's go let's go run this

[05:15:07] chat at clean bed will we get this first try

[05:15:14] oh it's my memory farting link

[05:15:19] professor

[05:15:26] sorry on the plot no worries man I'm going to add in a few feet yes so I want

[05:15:36] do you? I don't think we need to do it. We don't need it. We don't need it. I think

[05:15:42] we're going to, unless you can't over damage Galar. I can't remember. I don't know. I think

[05:15:48] we should be okay. Just instantly. You kind of, you kind of want to face and like not

[05:15:53] directly at him. You kind of want to be under, like underneath him shooting up, if that

[05:15:57] makes sense at an angle. For chaos? I know. For chaos. Yeah. I know. I know.

[05:16:06] Needle storm works on him, too

[05:16:09] Yeah, for chaos at bottom ever needle storm you could just I mean you're still hitting him in the head, right?

[05:16:17] I'll track turns who do

[05:16:19] You're we chaos was you're still hitting them in the head, right? I mean that's that word what you're talking about

[05:16:24] You are you just talking about general placement engine?

[05:16:27] The best way is like from bottom to top just because of hitbox we found

[05:16:32] I was like tested on a on a 5 feet

[05:16:40] I'll have tractor so I'll tractor and then oh, yeah

[05:16:47] All right, I'll start off at first buff who's on the side with me

[05:16:52] I'll do it

[05:16:57] You just have something good for hands

[05:16:59] Yes, I first be good for this

[05:17:02] Yeah, what did you say start from the bottom the top what? Oh?

[05:17:08] Is this where you say start from the sack? What do you wouldn't?

[05:17:11] Yeah, so from the staff man, so you chaos reach the sack and then you you be like you you come you come up

[05:17:18] Kind of like this like you're like under his sack looking up. Yeah

[05:17:22] On honor come over and get this buffing me. I need it. We're ever see reverence in the buff

[05:17:27] We need a person

[05:17:29] Did you get it?

[05:17:31] No, I'm not.

[05:17:33] I'm gonna give it to you.

[05:17:35] Just one of y'all get it.

[05:17:37] Then cook them with you.

[05:17:43] I thought I was just randomly saying

[05:17:45] that some of the balls act.

[05:17:47] I mean, I've never done it.

[05:17:49] You know.

[05:17:51] You're crazy.

[05:17:53] I think so.

[05:17:55] I'm gonna suck.

[05:17:57] you can get terrible catalyze at us

[05:18:07] yeah but i've been told you can't progress without a person

[05:18:11] can't fudge

[05:18:12] grub

[05:18:13] all the grey catalyze we're starting to get on the show

[05:18:15] alright let's uh let's just walk

[05:18:18] with you

[05:18:49] I thought we could hop

[05:18:52] We could either run away or just go

[05:19:01] Okay, one's down here with the bomb

[05:19:03] Ready?

[05:19:04] Uh, we went for middle

[05:19:07] There we go

[05:19:10] Get that idea

[05:19:19] me killer alcohol I wouldn't even give me give me the post for that

[05:19:23] the post for that

[05:19:27] the mic's so high for hold on the edits

[05:19:33] I got 18 seconds

[05:19:40] I'm unbuffing

[05:19:46] good job

[05:19:49] We got our shots you raise your hands I think

[05:20:03] I'll get left, I'll get left.

[05:20:10] Oh yes.

[05:20:12] Oh we have the right one, the one on right.

[05:20:21] Can we get boss over here?

[05:20:25] Or whatever.

[05:20:56] And then work your way to the sack

[05:21:00] It's like he's like like lock set. Thank you. I'm like lock set

[05:21:04] I'm sundered like if you

[05:21:08] This hitbox is like weird. I mean you're probably still good to be honest if we're juicing but

[05:21:14] If you're doing cutthroat you wouldn't get it

[05:21:17] Mods find this tweet.

[05:21:25] I'm being told there is a tweet.

[05:21:31] I gotta read this real quick, but we're gonna do it all.

[05:21:36] All right, so this is from the gentleman that leaked the 50% cut coming to Bungie and he's

[05:21:50] I guess he's followed up here.

[05:21:52] You asked for it here are more details about Bungie after speaking with my sources including

[05:21:56] some at PlayStation what stands out is mainly internal resistance strong pushback.

[05:22:02] Many people at PlayStation don't understand the decision made at the top the discontinued

[05:22:06] destiny to what some of told me there's a kind of desire for revenge as Sony's

[05:22:20] leadership reportedly blames bungee for a number of issues with their games as a

[05:22:25] service strategy wait what what is happening right now

[05:22:36] The exact number of layoffs planned on Bungie is still being determined, but I've been told

[05:22:42] repeatedly that the target is indeed 50%.

[05:22:47] So one of the questions I hear, why can't Sony tell Bungie to just not cancel destiny?

[05:22:52] Why does Bungie leadership have more say than Sony here?

[05:22:55] It's not the exact who are against the closure and Bungie did not decide to stop

[05:22:59] destiny too.

[05:23:00] Okay, I apologize, it sounds very different than the statement in the original tweet

[05:23:05] I would delete.

[05:23:06] Yeah, it sounded like, it sounded like Sony didn't want it, but he's saying, after speaking

[05:23:15] with my sources, including some at PlayStation, what stands out is mainly internal resistance,

[05:23:19] strong pushback.

[05:23:20] Many people at PlayStation don't understand the decision made at the top to discontinue

[05:23:23] Destiny 2.

[05:23:24] Okay, so that might just be talking about the people working at PlayStation, especially

[05:23:29] on the media side. Yeah, yeah. Some have told me that there's a kind of desire for revenge

[05:23:39] as Sony's leadership reportedly blames Bungie for a number of issues with their games to

[05:23:43] the live service strategy.

[05:23:54] Is that gonna let us still plan to be around 50% okay?

[05:24:02] No, no, no, no, no, no. Guys, there is people that work on the PlayStation side. Listen to me

[05:24:09] on this, listen to me, because I know I too was like jumping to conclusions right there.

[05:24:14] There are people that work on the PlayStation side that oversee things like media

[05:24:18] or bungee, okay, the trailers and everything else.

[05:24:22] Great guys, by the way.

[05:24:24] I actually met one of them in LA, him and his wife,

[05:24:27] lovely people, and they've cooked some amazing,

[05:24:30] some of the trailers you've seen here recently,

[05:24:32] they've cooked, that's on the PlayStation site.

[05:24:35] So after speaking with some of my sources,

[05:24:37] including some at PlayStation,

[05:24:38] so people like that,

[05:24:40] what stands out is mainly internal resistance,

[05:24:42] strong pushback, many people at PlayStation,

[05:24:45] those being those individuals,

[05:24:47] Don't understand the decision made at the top of this continued destiny to don't understand

[05:24:51] the decision made at the top of Sony.

[05:24:53] Don't understand Sony and why they would discontinue destiny to some a told me there's

[05:25:00] a kind of desire.

[05:25:01] So this is internally at PlayStation was the kind of desire for revenge as Sony's

[05:25:07] leadership reportedly blames bungee for a number of issues with their games as

[05:25:11] a service strategy.

[05:25:19] Do why not just blame the people that were actively back in Concord?

[05:25:22] That's what you're mad about, Sony.

[05:25:25] If that's what you're really mad about.

[05:25:27] If you're mad that Concord absolutely bombed and you now have one of the biggest, like,

[05:25:32] if there was a definition in the, in the dictionary next to fucking dead game, you

[05:25:39] know what I mean? Like, like debt on arrival. There you go. Debt on arrival. Concord would

[05:25:45] unfortunately be the definition of debt on arrival. And I'm not saying that Bungie didn't

[05:25:52] play a part in this, but as far as I understand, the detail or the funding for Concord was

[05:26:02] occurring before the acquisition of Bungie even took place between Sony and Bungie.

[05:26:10] Yes, Bungie did say that they would help with shipping games to the live service.

[05:26:17] But I don't know, Bungie was the one who told him to go put St.

[05:26:28] $400 million in the Concorde.

[05:26:41] Well, yeah, I mean, look, man, some of the people that worked at

[05:26:45] Bungie that made the double primary system that made destiny

[05:26:50] to PVP vanilla, those individuals went to go work after they

[05:26:57] Deported bungee, and you can just, I'm not trying to talk shit right now.

[05:27:02] You can use your imagination, ask yourself, why would those individuals

[05:27:05] depart bungee?

[05:27:06] Well, yes, they too was not very good year one.

[05:27:13] People internally at bungee was not very happy.

[05:27:17] And so those individuals, those developers left bungee that, that

[05:27:22] were committed to that double primary sandbox

[05:27:27] and they went to go work on Concord.

[05:27:46] Don't forget the original D2 director.

[05:27:48] Well, yeah, I think it was like

[05:27:49] one of the original Destiny CEOs, right?

[05:27:52] also was over fire walk. Yeah, a lot of the ex Concord guys were bungee deaths, but I don't

[05:28:09] know why you're going to play bungee for that. You know what I mean? I don't know, dude.

[05:28:15] I mean, Sony was trying to make the Naughty Dog. Wasn't the last of us going to have

[05:28:19] a live game and they, and they canceled that or they, they budget didn't cancel it.

[05:28:26] But they, they had a meeting with an auto dog and with Sony and whatever occurred from that

[05:28:34] meeting was essentially don't make, don't, don't ship the game.

[05:28:41] I'm going to be honest.

[05:28:44] They must have been bad.

[05:28:50] Bajito Narada, what it takes to keep a live service, and they canceled after that?

[05:29:10] That's a good item.

[05:29:32] There's ex bunting devs who let Concord.

[05:29:35] Yes, but guys, they got, look, you know, like, um,

[05:29:40] Yeah, it's a small world. It's a small world. You're in that Seattle area, by the way. A lot of these devs, they hop back and forth anyways.

[05:29:51] But this is such a s- like I- I-

[05:29:59] What's the in-go- in-go here?

[05:30:01] So there's a kind of desire for revenge as Sony's leadership reportedly blames bungee

[05:30:06] for a number of issues with their games to service strategy.

[05:30:10] Games to service, sorry.

[05:30:16] I'm not a premium strier, so I don't have many characters available.

[05:30:20] So wait, let me get this straight.

[05:30:21] Sony is seeking revenge or is bungee Sony executives are seeking revenge.

[05:30:25] I'm probably being petty right now.

[05:30:32] I don't understand, though, dude. Like, if you're being petty, I'd be petty.

[05:30:41] Were you gonna sink the whole studio just to prove a point?

[05:30:55] Why? You lose more money that way. You know where I come from? Oh, you're gonna prove

[05:31:04] a point. Now, let's watch a $3 billion asset go to shit. I mean, if you want to be petty

[05:31:12] about something, go fucking, go after Pete, like for real. You want to push legally?

[05:31:19] after Pete then, if you think Pete took you for a ride, and overinflated the value of the company,

[05:31:29] you can do that. You can definitely do that. But why take it out on the studio? Why take it out on the

[05:31:34] studio? And what point are you trying to prove by killing its number one IP? I just don't get it.

[05:31:49] Oh, yeah, yeah, and it's your own, it's your, it's your own studio.

[05:32:12] Put off your nose and spike your own face.

[05:32:30] I just, I don't know, this honestly baffles me guys because at the end of the day, sure

[05:32:35] I'm not saying like everyone at Bungie was just the greatest talent out there, but there's

[05:32:40] There's been incredible talent that has left over the years, okay?

[05:32:44] And in the 50% that's going to be cut, incredible talent.

[05:32:47] Dude, they're going to get picked up.

[05:32:49] They're going to get picked up.

[05:32:50] They might even get picked up by Xbox, I know Xbox, that's been closed in studios,

[05:32:53] but they might get picked up by Xbox or some other studios.

[05:32:57] And these individuals are going to compete against you, Soni.

[05:33:01] They're going to compete against you.

[05:33:04] They're going to go out there, they're going to make products, and it may be

[05:33:09] at a, at a, at a start against the studio, you're actively competing against

[05:33:27] my concern with Sony

[05:33:29] if, if this is action, and I thought about this

[05:33:33] but if they really are going to be

[05:33:39] If they really are seeking, I guess you say revenge or they're being spiteful in some kind of way.

[05:33:50] They are never going to make another destiny.

[05:33:59] They are going to crucify destiny openly.

[05:34:09] I'm back to the anger face.

[05:34:29] Fun fact, Sony PlayStation more or less exists because of pettiness.

[05:34:32] God.

[05:34:33] You sure it's not Bungie you see can revenge?

[05:34:49] No, that's he just clarified it's Sony.

[05:34:55] the venue. Look, it just sounds like Sony's pissed off. It sounds like Sony's pissed off

[05:35:05] that Pete fucked them, but they're not going after Pete's and said they're just gonna,

[05:35:14] going after the studio and it's like man.

[05:35:44] Who is this guy and why should we trust what he's saying?

[05:35:52] Sylvain, a journalist, he's reported on a few things, and Paul Tassie is also, he's

[05:36:03] not confirming a percentage of the layoffs, but this is the same guy that brought up

[05:36:08] the expected layoffs, massive layoffs that's coming.

[05:36:38] You would be pissed too if you lost 3.6 billion dollars.

[05:36:51] Oh yeah, man.

[05:36:52] I mean, without a doubt.

[05:36:54] But there's a difference between being, you know, when it comes to business at the end

[05:37:02] the day, guys, you at least got to look at the, you have to, you have to actually assess

[05:37:10] the value of the asset that you own and go, all right, yes, we overpay.

[05:37:18] It's a shit situation all around.

[05:37:21] However, what can we possibly do to make good on this investments?

[05:37:27] But one of the ways is just leaning into the greatest strength of that.

[05:37:32] And in this case, you can argue, say, Bungie's greatest strength and the greatest revenue

[05:37:36] source was in fact destiny.

[05:37:40] Is in fact destiny.

[05:37:44] It may take longer to get your return on your investment.

[05:37:48] Instead of 10, 15 years, it might take 25.

[05:37:53] But at least you get your return.

[05:37:55] Okay?

[05:37:56] Well, I will say guys and look, I don't know what proper the valuations you got on like

[05:38:24] We're talking 2021, 2020, 2021 valuations for especially game companies were astronomical.

[05:38:36] All right. I'm not going to put, I'm not going to say the name of this company. There was a company

[05:38:41] out there that had only one game and that one game really wasn't even that good of a game.

[05:38:47] It was a kind of good game.

[05:38:49] And its valuation was a little over a billion dollars, which blew my fucking mind, all right?

[05:38:58] Blown my fucking mind.

[05:39:00] It wasn't even like it.

[05:39:01] The game like had mediocre reception.

[05:39:07] Now let me just say this.

[05:39:10] That company's valuation peaked in 2021.

[05:39:13] A lot of companies valuation peaked in 2021.

[05:39:15] Why? Because, one, you had easy money policy back then.

[05:39:21] Two, everyone thought we were gonna be locked down forever.

[05:39:28] Man, you just had to come down to Florida

[05:39:29] to realize that shit wasn't gonna last.

[05:39:31] You know what I'm saying?

[05:39:33] We weren't locked, people weren't locked down.

[05:39:35] I mean, there were people locked down some,

[05:39:37] in other places.

[05:39:38] But man, it wasn't gonna be a lockdown

[05:39:40] for 10 fucking years or even five years.

[05:39:44] much less a year.

[05:39:48] But I believe there was this mindset that we were going to be

[05:39:51] locked down for X amount of years and everyone's going to be at home

[05:39:58] needing entertainment, gaming being one of them.

[05:40:14] So Paul right here put this out absolutely saying they're not even tasking a tiny S team

[05:40:23] with potential high fixed big balance issues after this.

[05:40:32] I

[05:40:42] Got this terrible dude, that's fucking terrible

[05:40:51] Morning bike it's like buying a puppy expecting to grow into one breed and then it turns out to be another instead of taking

[05:40:56] Up with the breeder and seller you just shoot the dog

[05:41:02] Burning eggs for the two thousand bits

[05:41:09] Nobody lets your dog around burning burning you I was disturbing

[05:41:17] Did you run I got too many dogs I

[05:41:23] Had too many fucking dogs. I got too many. I got Huskies

[05:41:27] I got a husky right now. That's got the shits and she's

[05:41:31] She's just shitting all, I got, she's outside.

[05:41:34] She just walked up on the, on the damn drive.

[05:41:37] She shitted all over the drive,

[05:41:38] all up and down the drive lane.

[05:41:41] I mean, every step, your shit just comes out.

[05:41:44] Huskies are cute.

[05:41:45] Yeah. Well, how about a one Husky with the shits?

[05:41:49] How about that?

[05:41:53] She learned it from you.

[05:41:55] I feed them dogs good food, very good food.

[05:41:59] Honestly too good in my opinion.

[05:42:08] I love dogs, but it was a pug sausage dog to wallow on something else.

[05:42:13] That's interesting.

[05:42:14] That's a hell of a combination.

[05:42:17] Yeah.

[05:42:18] Paul is right right here.

[05:42:19] Absolutely insane.

[05:42:20] They're not even asked.

[05:42:21] Tasking a tiny as team with potential optics, big balance issues after this.

[05:42:25] They are atomizing support for this game.

[05:42:27] So you understand what's happening here, guys.

[05:42:28] They're not even keeping a couple guys in there to just make sure the bugs inside of Destiny

[05:42:36] remain in check.

[05:42:40] They're axing everyone.

[05:42:41] They literally are saying, get the game as best you can and then fuck off.

[05:42:55] And I'm gonna be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if so many even cares about that.

[05:42:58] I wouldn't be surprised if so many even cares if the game isn't that good of a

[05:43:03] state or not. I think this is more of a push on the bungee side.

[05:43:28] This is this is all around

[05:43:38] The reason why this is bothering me a bit here guys, I just don't think there's anything

[05:43:49] I don't think there's anything we could have done. I mean we've made a lot of noise

[05:43:53] You know the fact that let me tell you this is this is the thing

[05:43:56] that that irked me. The fact that Xbox was the only one that really said, I mean, a lot

[05:44:04] of a lot of companies said, you know, almost like, you know, showed love to guardians and

[05:44:11] to destiny. But PlayStation hasn't said, have they said anything? Has PlayStation said anything?

[05:44:18] Has PlayStation? Don't even come out said, thank you to the destiny community. Have

[05:44:23] Now they have not said Jack shit.

[05:44:27] I only think I've seen from PlayStation is on the marketing side.

[05:44:31] They push on the dome section.

[05:44:34] And I know you're going to say, but it came from the marketing agencies.

[05:44:37] Trust me, that shit's coming down the line from Sony.

[05:44:40] talk about D3.

[05:45:10] It's part of the issue, it feels like there's no remorse of care at all from Sony.

[05:45:18] Yeah.

[05:45:19] You know, something like this, you think they would say something, you know what I mean?

[05:45:25] But now it makes sense.

[05:45:26] If they really are, like if they really are just like, essentially digging the, digging

[05:45:34] the knife into bungee right now and the desire here for revenge, if you will, they ain't gonna,

[05:45:45] you know what I mean, they're not gonna say anything. They're just gonna keep doing what

[05:45:50] they're doing.

[05:46:15] If they want revenge, why not close down the studio?

[05:46:19] I think that's where they're going, guys, and this being straight with you, I think that's

[05:46:26] where they're going.

[05:46:28] But they're not going to do it all in one blow because Sony executives still have to

[05:46:38] answer to people.

[05:46:39] They still have to actually show, they don't necessarily have to, but you want to have

[05:46:46] numbers to back up. And if, if Destiny right now is still showing somewhat consistent revenue,

[05:46:53] and you just go in there and just ask the whole studio, this is just my opinion here,

[05:46:57] you just go in there and just ask the whole studio and people would be, you know,

[05:47:01] it'd be like a what the fuck moment, you know, I'm coming from, but if you go ahead and get

[05:47:05] rid of Destiny, you let Marathon teeter on and you see what I mean is divide and conquer

[05:47:12] situation and then eventually you can act marathon and then they go from there. I really think this

[05:47:17] may actually be the end goal here guys is to close bungee.

[05:47:28] Um, I don't know, dude.

[05:47:36] I don't, I, that's a great question.

[05:47:38] Um, yeah, if, if, if Sony does in fact close bungee, and I'm thinking this may

[05:47:46] happen by next year, like straight up 20, 27, I think this may happen by next year.

[05:47:52] Then, uh, I think the first thing they're going to do is cut the servers.

[05:47:57] You know what I mean?

[05:47:59] Or for destiny and for Marilyn

[05:48:12] Guys, I'm not trying to like piss you off. I'm just saying I just if Sony's got it out for

[05:48:19] for bungee right now and also for, you know, again, I like to, I like to believe at the

[05:48:28] end of the day, Sony likes money just like everybody else.

[05:48:33] And that at the end of the day, they would make decisions with, with that money interest

[05:48:39] in mind, but the problem is they're already going against that by closing down destiny

[05:48:44] as is.

[05:48:45] So we're already removed from that as we're already seeing here.

[05:49:01] A thousand percent. I think if this is the case, you really feel this way.

[05:49:05] Then there are individuals at the top level bungee that you should have gone after.

[05:49:11] If you feel like you got fucked.

[05:49:15] This man on the studio though, you know.

[05:49:45] How about going after whoever within Sony who came up with the observed valuation?

[05:49:54] Well, those things happened.

[05:49:55] You had Jim Ryan, who got essentially let go.

[05:50:03] And then you had Herman Hulse, who got demoted to Coci.

[05:50:09] Right?

[05:50:10] Coci.

[05:50:11] Right, co-CEO, have we ever said that does that happen often in the corporate world guys?

[05:50:17] I don't how often do you have two CEOs?

[05:50:22] How often do you have co-CEOs?

[05:50:37] It's happens with rare.

[05:50:41] Blizzard had two for a time.

[05:50:45] Definitely happens.

[05:50:47] In Europe, it's relatively normal.

[05:50:49] Oh, okay.

[05:51:03] Usually when one is transitioning to retirement.

[05:51:11] They have a regional CEO and a main CEO.

[05:51:25] Who's got two for a few months and did the lady found out she was underpaid?

[05:51:29] I don't know all the details about that.

[05:51:34] Based off of what you're saying in this battle, where do we stand and all this is destiny fans?

[05:51:42] Guys, Sony can walk into bungee right now, set up a live string, pull the pants down

[05:51:54] piss on our servers. And there ain't nothing we could do about it. We can rage, we can get upset,

[05:52:04] and be like, okay, you still gonna come from?

[05:52:14] But unfortunately, and the fucked up thing is they would make bungee watch.

[05:52:21] And honestly, they may look at Bungie and say, oh, is this your crown jewel game?

[05:52:31] Is this destiny?

[05:52:33] Is this your favorite game?

[05:52:36] You fuck me?

[05:52:37] No.

[05:52:38] I fuck you.

[05:52:39] I thought it was.

[05:52:40] They couldn't do that.

[05:52:41] They couldn't be doing that.

[05:52:42] And could we do that?

[05:52:43] I don't know.

[05:52:44] They could be doing that.

[05:52:47] And could we do that?

[05:52:48] I don't know.

[05:52:54] I don't know.

[05:53:04] It kind of all right now.

[05:53:14] I'll let you know, man. I'll let you know how petty Sony is. I don't know

[05:53:22] We've we've done we've done sponsorships with Sony I

[05:53:30] Haven't seen another Sony sponsorship, but I'll let you know if we never see another Sony sponsorship again

[05:53:37] It's a good chance. We won't I

[05:53:39] I'll let you know they if I can confirm at least a Mayan if they hold personal grudges

[05:53:56] What was your last Sony sponsorship source?

[05:54:01] Yeah, Sarah source good game actually a really good game enjoy it

[05:54:09] What sounds like the only thing we could do is drive them nuts with D3 posts forever?

[05:54:32] Yeah.

[05:54:34] That's it, man.

[05:54:36] That's it.

[05:54:37] You know, Sony, you're gonna have a very vocal community.

[05:54:42] Honestly, Sony, you could come out of this.

[05:54:45] Look, here's the thing, man.

[05:54:47] You could come out of this looking like the hero.

[05:54:50] Hear me out.

[05:54:52] You could swoop in here.

[05:54:55] You can grab Destiny by the balls.

[05:54:58] You can say, hey, Destiny community,

[05:55:01] you want D3?

[05:55:03] We'll make it.

[05:55:04] We'll put our heart and souls into it.

[05:55:09] We'll have a team that we've hand selected that will make a D3.

[05:55:16] Here with him bunching.

[05:55:18] We'll draw some of the talent that has been dropped over the years.

[05:55:22] We'll call back Joe Blackburn and Chris Proctor.

[05:55:26] Maybe even Luke Smith and Mark Knowsworthy.

[05:55:28] We'll assemble the Avengers and we will make a D3.

[05:55:32] You're staying with your destiny community, but I don't see that happening now, yeah,

[05:55:42] That's it for now.

[05:55:49] That's it for now.

[05:56:08] One more tune will happen before destiny three.

[05:56:11] Actually, though, actually, yep.

[05:56:22] Interested developers and PlayStation,

[05:56:24] Inter-Ona, interested developers and players

[05:56:27] should simply buy Destiny.

[05:56:31] You understand, Destiny is not for sale.

[05:56:34] Even if someone was to come out

[05:56:36] and put up a really good price for Destiny,

[05:56:39] I really, at this point,

[05:56:40] reading some of these posts, I don't think Sony would sell it. Why? Because they want

[05:56:47] to fuck it live on TV for the rest of eternity for all to see. You understand? You see what

[05:56:55] of coming from, you're going to take away that enjoyment.

[05:57:11] Please cross the avenue on speaker.

[05:57:12] They want to spit on that thing.

[05:57:21] I wanna slap it around.

[05:57:24] No lube.

[05:57:27] Say the most profane things.

[05:57:29] Like, yeah, you ride, that's right, you dirty bitch.

[05:57:32] That's right.

[05:57:33] I killed you.

[05:57:34] I fucking did it.

[05:57:38] You used to be a great game.

[05:57:39] Take this shit.

[05:57:40] Okay, all right, stop my grandma's here.

[05:57:57] Ten Center Epic's gonna swoop in, watch.

[05:58:05] What is the relationship like between Sony and Chinese publishers?

[05:58:26] good. No, I didn't say Japan or China. I mean, I mean, I just meant, I mean, Sony. And and

[05:58:41] do you, you mentioned some of the Chinese publishers, you know, I go from pick up a

[05:58:49] history book, whoa, let's not get caught up in the weeds here. All right. All right.

[05:58:53] I can tell you first hand, at least from my Vietnamese side of the family, Asian people

[05:58:59] do not like each other.

[05:59:00] I'm just being real.

[05:59:01] Okay.

[05:59:02] I'm just being, I'm an outsider, you know, I come from, I'm just, I just say, I'm

[05:59:08] in, I'm in the no, but I'm not, you know, I don't know.

[05:59:16] Keep it a game, because like NetEase is our next hope.

[05:59:31] I don't know, man.

[05:59:32] I don't even know.

[05:59:33] I don't know what the deal is between NetEase.

[05:59:35] I've sat in with NetEase whenever they were about to release Destiny Rising.

[05:59:45] They, NetEase were so good about taking in feedback.

[05:59:50] They would be like, what did you think of this?

[05:59:52] And we would tell them and they would be like, wow, okay, we'll jump on that.

[05:59:56] Of course we had to translate it.

[05:59:57] But the point is, is like, they were really on top of all the feedback.

[06:00:01] Every time we told them something about the game that we felt like could be better

[06:00:05] here or there or wherever, NetEase and those developers that oversaw Desi and Rising

[06:00:10] did such a good job and responded so well, except for one thing.

[06:00:18] And I said it twice.

[06:00:19] I said it three times, maybe four times, I said, guys, you just launched this game

[06:00:27] natively on PC and consoles, it would do really well.

[06:00:39] And I got silence, it was like no reply.

[06:00:47] No your audience is like, they heard me, but no reply, which made me go, I think there might

[06:00:54] be more here happening.

[06:01:03] Cost money to the license to console and PC.

[06:01:05] I think there might actually be something internally with their contracts where they cannot release

[06:01:11] my opinion, I think they may not be allowed to release on console in pc natively

[06:01:17] You see what I'm saying?

[06:01:23] I think mobile might be the only thing they can release it on that in emulators, right?

[06:01:35] Yeah, we watch balls video.

[06:01:54] But a bunch of no longer is this the contract is void?

[06:01:57] No, I don't think that's how it goes guys that that's still sustains.

[06:02:02] You know what I'm saying?

[06:02:11] Sony currently doesn't own the Destiny IP.

[06:02:15] Sony owns the Destiny IP.

[06:02:19] They own the Destiny IP laser.

[06:02:29] I did, we watched yesterday, yeah.

[06:02:32] They own, when they bought Bungie, they own every Bungie IP that has ever and will ever

[06:02:52] exist.

[06:02:53] They can do whatever they want with it.

[06:02:58] They can run into the ground, they can pluck it out of your hands and move it under one

[06:03:02] of their own studios.

[06:03:07] They can piss on its grave and make you watch.

[06:03:14] They don't own Halo.

[06:03:16] That's because Bungie never owned Halo.

[06:03:18] Jesus Christ.

[06:03:21] Bungie never owned Halo.

[06:03:22] We've talked about this so many fucking times.

[06:03:47] Does anyone know the Sony CEO? I do.

[06:03:52] Uh, I'm it's missy crookie. Uh,

[06:04:00] How do you say?

[06:04:03] Missy missy. Oh, excuse me. Uh, hero hero key to tiki.

[06:04:11] The talking hero key to talking.

[06:04:13] Oh, yeah, yeah. And the presidency of Sony Interactive is Nishino. Hidiki Nishino. Hidiki Nishino.

[06:04:30] Class was up.

[06:04:37] No, that guy actually, Nishina gave a wonderful, wonderful speech to a college class, I think

[06:04:56] was a college class, graduation class. And he talked about how he ended up getting into the industry.

[06:05:07] Said that someone had downloaded, I think the Linux operating system on his computer and he was

[06:05:15] really upset about that. And anyways, but that kind of pushed him to learn about technology.

[06:05:22] and he ended up changing majors and essentially that's what led to his

[06:05:30] career and right there and so it was kind of a it was a good message to the

[06:05:36] graduating class of like you know the things that could in in life that can

[06:05:44] and leaves you to your destination.

[06:05:50] And so, I'm curious how this overlays

[06:05:57] with what's happening here.

[06:06:04] Do you know how to make a D3?

[06:06:05] Yeah, I know, I only read the shit.

[06:06:06] So I was like, all right,

[06:06:07] how the fuck am I gonna tell this guy

[06:06:09] how to make or why to make a D3?

[06:06:12] You know what I mean?

[06:06:16] No change of majors at a spite.

[06:06:23] Okay, I was wrong.

[06:06:28] The information on them owning the IP is still coming back from Activision.

[06:06:30] Sony does in fact own the IP.

[06:06:32] So, yeah, Destiny is going to rot in a pit now, yeah, yeah.

[06:06:36] Look, when you ask ChadTBT, you want to just go ahead and just like ask them the

[06:06:39] same question and be like, are you sure?

[06:06:42] I can tell when you guys are hitting up a look be like hey, are you sir? All right?

[06:06:51] Double-check the shit

[06:07:03] Right so what's the plan are we breaking into Sony or what I

[06:07:07] Don't know I'm gonna think about this. I'm gonna think about this. All right

[06:07:12] Guys, I've shown my ass as much as I could.

[06:07:18] I've got to figure out, we've got to figure out what else we can do here.

[06:07:25] You know what I mean?

[06:07:26] I'm not going to give up on it, but we need to figure out what the most effective method

[06:07:32] here.

[06:07:35] The only thing I can do is I can sacrifice my Sony TV amongst any other Sony product

[06:07:40] that I may have in the house, you know?

[06:07:52] I don't know.

[06:08:07] You all right about it though?

[06:08:08] What's the point?

[06:08:08] I know, man.

[06:08:15] Who does Sony hate the most?

[06:08:30] From a corporate and competitive standpoint,

[06:08:32] Sony is typically viewed as hating

[06:08:34] or at least heavily targeting its main gaming rivals.

[06:08:37] Microsoft and Nintendo.

[06:08:43] Within the gaming industry,

[06:08:44] Sony is widely known for aggressive exclusivity deals

[06:08:47] and fierce competition against these two giants

[06:08:50] to maintain PlayStation's market dominance.

[06:08:54] All right, well, we just,

[06:09:00] Microsoft, Xbox, I talked a lot about you guys.

[06:09:03] I think I may have said that,

[06:09:05] You know

[06:09:10] Your console is shits and you've got no games and I

[06:09:19] Forget you even exist but I

[06:09:23] Like your new CEO she's sharp. It's aggressive and I like steam

[06:09:31] I

[06:09:33] Ironically, a major source of contingency exists between Sony and PC games.

[06:09:41] Many users point to Sony's history of paid third-party exclusives to lay PC ports and ingress

[06:09:45] PC login requirements as a reason for the brand's unpopularity in the PC space.

[06:09:50] So look, honestly, I'm already playing on PC majority of the time.

[06:10:00] GTA is coming out this year, probably going to be playing in on Xbox, just saying.

[06:10:12] Because they force the places to count.

[06:10:18] Obviously, I don't need you to look at your tweets right now and you keep that shit to

[06:10:21] yourself.

[06:10:22] We're pro Xbox around this place, okay?

[06:10:26] I know Xbox is closing studios too.

[06:10:29] I know, I know we'll get into that another day, but right now we're pro X box.

[06:10:34] Okay.

[06:10:37] I like color green anyways.

[06:10:43] Cross your pippin pins.

[06:10:56] Cross your pro X box play path of XL two on it.

[06:10:59] Well, I think I think playing PC and you know or Xbox is good. I'd be fine. So

[06:11:08] We'll see man, we'll see you know the problem is the problem is this I like anime

[06:11:17] Sony owns that shit

[06:11:21] Fuck if I crunchy roll man, they fucking bought crunchy roll

[06:11:29] Crunchy Rose trash. Oh, yeah, you want me to tell you tell me your alternatives? I mean,

[06:11:44] I mean, let me hear the alternatives. Funimation. Oh, cute. What's your other alternative? Pirating.

[06:11:55] your alternative? Okay. I am. Sure. Sure.

[06:12:14] Anti-haven?

[06:12:15] Hmmmm.

[06:12:16] I don't think so.

[06:12:24] High dive?

[06:12:25] High dive doesn't have everything, man.

[06:12:28] Someone who has reclined water, I've had enough, oh my god.

[06:12:34] How many Bill Clinton messages, I did not have sexual relations with that woman did

[06:12:40] Did we hear online wire, right?

[06:12:44] You download the paper cut, Linkin Park

[06:12:47] and it's just fuckin' Bill.

[06:12:50] I remember I was so confused that I was like 12 years old

[06:12:54] and I'm like, dude, who is this guy?

[06:12:57] I was like, who?

[06:12:59] I don't care, I don't know what sex is.

[06:13:03] Who the fuck is this?

[06:13:10] You know, any viruses I got off the line wire?

[06:13:16] Oh yeah, I fucked my mom's computer up.

[06:13:18] Yeah, my mom's computer kept running slower and slower and slower.

[06:13:24] And I had been downloading music and a lot of these other, you know, Bill Clinton audios,

[06:13:29] you know, and eventually she has someone come and check on her computer and they were

[06:13:33] like, whoa, this shit's fucked.

[06:13:39] I

[06:13:43] Really no

[06:13:45] Birds of great CDs because the lawnmower though, right?

[06:13:48] Yeah

[06:13:50] Yeah, yeah, that was the time man. Well, you made a CD for someone, you know, especially that was

[06:13:56] You're not special that fucking was you like I made this fucking

[06:13:59] We don't even know about that anymore, dude.

[06:14:08] You know, I come from there, we know about that.

[06:14:10] They don't know the limitations of a single CD.

[06:14:17] You get best 14 songs.

[06:14:21] Now you got everything.

[06:14:22] You got fucking everything.

[06:14:23] Right there.

[06:14:24] Right there.

[06:14:25] as you want, when you want it.

[06:14:33] Oh, my team's still waiting.

[06:14:35] Oh, no, they're not.

[06:14:36] They're not they've been to me.

[06:14:46] These kids make Spotify playlist now.

[06:14:49] I remember when MP3 players were, kids were bringing them to school, my hell, yeah.

[06:15:10] Cross your witness to the moon landing easy be careful bringing up moon landing to this

[06:15:25] chat. Oh, am I get crazy? What moon landed? What? It's fake. Oh, my God.

[06:15:55] Dude, I'll tell you what I hear this shit

[06:15:59] I take it so much, you know what I mean?

[06:16:02] I just don't give a shit

[06:16:07] Maybe what maybe what? You know

[06:16:10] I'll tell you what no conspiracy loses me faster than Flat Earth or something every time

[06:16:15] I'm like, dude, you know how many people got to be in on this shit

[06:16:20] You know what I'm saying, you know how people got to be in on that shit

[06:16:25] Wait, the earth isn't flat?

[06:16:37] And then the one reply I get from flat earth is this, have you gone to space and seen it

[06:16:42] for yourself?

[06:16:50] We'll have you.

[06:16:58] Tell me how our compass works.

[06:17:04] How's that work for Flat Earth?

[06:17:08] Won't you give me that shit?

[06:17:14] Magic.

[06:17:22] Magic.

[06:17:23] I hope this is flagged too.

[06:17:31] Alright, I gotta get the fuck off here.

[06:17:35] Guys, I wish I had something better to share with you guys today.

[06:17:39] Unfortunately, unfortunately it seems like Sony's pissed off and it seems like they're

[06:17:53] using Bungie and by extension Destiny as their example.

[06:18:03] And I don't think this is going to work well for Sony.

[06:18:07] really Sony you could come out looking good from this. You really could. You could lean

[06:18:13] into this community. You know, people might even look at you and be like, wow, Sony is

[06:18:22] that gracious savior. What I will tell you this, I can tell you first hand, many people

[06:18:29] in the industry never want to speak ill on Sony, especially developers because that

[06:18:36] shit will follow them forever. They will give fucking blacklist and that shit will will

[06:18:42] stick with them. And so I wouldn't necessarily expect the developers to come out and talk

[06:18:47] about this. This is by extension, there's just so much that so much reach that that

[06:18:54] Sony does have.

[06:18:56] Exhaust now we've yet we've yet long enough, we are going to start in the morning on

[06:19:03] Warframe. I know I missed the story today. I had to get off guys. I've got some stuff I got to take

[06:19:08] care of. I know this wasn't necessarily the longest stream of the day, but we're going to be on for a

[06:19:13] very, very long time tomorrow. And I promise you we'll get Warframe as well. So we got carried

[06:19:19] away with the stories that have been broken today as far as the layoffs go. I hope you

[06:19:25] guys have been enjoying Warframe to my Warframe players. Love you guys. We'll be over there.

[06:19:29] And again, we'll also be at TennoCon this year.

[06:19:33] We've got some surprises at TennoCon.

[06:19:37] So no, nothing like that.

[06:19:42] No, Resonax with the five get the subs, I don't think Warframe knows what they've done

[06:19:45] for us.

[06:19:46] I don't think the Warframe community, like maybe they do, but you have my loyalty forever.

[06:19:54] Like straight up, the fact the Warframe community jumped into Destiny 2 at this past week, man.

[06:20:04] You fucking got me.

[06:20:05] Like I'm a lock forever with Warframe.

[06:20:12] And to be quite honest with you, when everything with the dust settles and Destiny unfortunately

[06:20:16] dies, Warframe may be one of our only options, you know what I'm saying?

[06:20:22] I thought Warframe's a bad game. It's just that I'm just mean like I think Warframe is a great game. It's just

[06:20:29] you know

[06:20:31] Unfortunately in Destiny will eventually have its last moments and we got Warframe. We got division

[06:20:38] You know what I mean for the from the Looters side of things

[06:20:42] Warframe really is different. I know a lot of comparisons have been drawn between Warframe and Destiny

[06:20:46] But Warframe really is

[06:20:49] different

[06:20:50] Just my design it's just so different

[06:20:56] Playing more frames up there right now nice when you play Guild Wars 3

[06:21:00] Maybe, you know, I I would probably play. I don't know when it's coming out

[06:21:06] I

[06:21:07] Like him RPGs. I know Guild Wars structures a lot different. They don't have the same typical

[06:21:13] DPS tank support, right? And so

[06:21:16] So I might fuck with it 2028.

[06:21:20] So I would probably play Guild Wars 2 first, see how that goes.

[06:21:25] And then I'll jump on Guild Wars 3.

[06:21:28] So for him to, yeah, yeah.

[06:21:31] But guys, thank you all so much for hanging out with us.

[06:21:33] We'll see you tomorrow.

[06:21:35] What's said tomorrow.

[06:21:37] And we'll cover tomorrow's 12 as well.

[06:21:39] Play some Warframe, okay?

[06:21:40] But you guys, you'll have a great rest of the evening.

[06:21:43] See you in the next one.

[06:21:44] Bye, everybody.

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