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blast slam six it is day number five if you can believe it already we already said goodbye to
two teams and we've merged our two paddles that happened yesterday four of us on this lovely
desk we're gonna start with kesu today wow wow yeah i know what do i owe the pleasure first time
well first time being first yeah we mentioned apparently so it's always it's usually the guy
on the corner i feel like because you always go like here and then go it's like it's because your
eyes either naturally go to the person at the end or the person directly next to you that's
That's true, but today it's me doing great, doing good.
I made the conscious effort to think of you, Kezu.
I appreciate that.
It might be the first time for you as well.
It might be too.
Why don't you self-tea?
I set a wake to four in the morning,
playing magic in preparation for our days off.
Oh, excellent.
I was screaming magic, watching Dota replays.
It was very, very busy, of course.
Definitely had the Dota replays.
I had the Dota boss open whilst I play a card,
wait an hour, take the next turn,
got to look at some drafts, come back to my turn.
So yeah, I had a very busy night.
Yeah.
How is your night?
Just as busy Quinn.
I had McDonald's and uh...
I had McDonald's.
First thing, don't sponsor it.
Don't sponsor it.
Sorry, I had a fast food brand.
Yes, an ambiguous fast food brand.
I think we all had a fast food brand last month.
We all did have a fast food brand.
I did not.
I abstained from the fast food.
Good job to you.
I was fasting my food.
It was really kind of cringe.
Is it unfulfied to have 20 chicken pieces with a burger for your fast food?
That's what I had.
I don't know but it might not be on the top.
There we go.
You might be losing a couple of brain cells.
So I'll save you all the trauma that is about to ensure
and give you a recap of what happened with our best of threes yesterday.
They never walked alone, they've caught the bat
They've taken him out first and for both supports
Dead at the BKB, oh, whispers away
Jump back in, has the hook in on towards Chikroyo
Have to link him to protect him from now
But he doesn't have enough hook
That's not going to be what they want to go on
And now he's going to get jumped first
Whisper, he's in on towards them, that's what the BKB is
Headbizz, he's been caught by the dismember
Can they free him in time?
They'll try and run with us
He doubles in with a jump against the black hole
Down there, caught Chikroyo
They'll kill the rubbery dwarf
But it's still full
More fight back on him for running to low. He's gonna try for some Avalonk toss back, but the hex is bad.
According to first spot, TG is going her way. They're close up the game.
He has head and a start.
Combo and the ice path, half HP, budget destruction going off. Now he's gonna BK here as they look like they've got a load or bounce back, so they don't bond enough.
Requiem from behind catching Chrysalis. Pushing him back into the S-18. He pops his ulti. You're gonna have to toss in on the underworld again.
He's gonna die. That is a dieback. Meanwhile, Faze just activates his blade now and now mid-1 hits Fade instead.
And so mid-1 does go down. RZ1 in his second life is cooking though. He is caught on the Christmas tradition.
This Christmas is big damage though from the burning barrage.
He's able to protect himself. Gets off the Guardian Angel so he stops taking damage to Christmas and takes the fight to Christmas.
Now trying to get a cookie to get clicks out of here, but again, you really just can't disengage from this lineup.
going to stick on top of you.
In fact, RCY is now looking for the kill on a mid one as well.
Good hold back from Yamage, but again, it's just blink after blink.
And his base damage is 257.
We've hidden damn hard, and that is Maus.
Eliminated from Blast Slam.
Gamer Legion will make their way through.
It was a lot of fun to get into yesterday's action.
Heroic took it in a 2-0.
Gamer Legion 2-1 for themselves with a Omni Knight
in their quote unquote, borderline elimination game
three there, and it leaves our
Plains brackets to look a little
bit like this saying goodbye to both
Reclinix and Maus. We do have
Heroic advancing coming up against
Tundra, Gamer Legion, against
Liquid, but there's a little bit of a break
before we see those guys there happening
tomorrow. For today,
it was those other four teams that we
saw there in our Plains
bracket. Yandex, Spirit,
Falcons, and Extreme Gaming.
Yeah, honestly, it's hard to believe that
But these are not on the stage yet, they're not here yet.
These are serious to get to play here, which I think is really, like we were talking about
it off-screen, but I think the level of Dota at this tournament is some of the most even
there has ever been at a Tier 1 event.
The fact that Navi and OG are the top two, I think nobody predicted this.
The top four where Falcons are, it's honestly really exciting and I think a great place
for Dota to be in.
Yeah, to me it's just, I think the faster playstyle is quite good, which is in my opinion
also why we see like Navi and OG at the top.
Now we'll say the top dogs, they seem not fully in shape to me.
Like when we look at, you know, the Falcons, the Tundra's, the Spirits,
there's quite a few, like, mistakes and mishaps happening,
whether it's individually, but also as a team.
Yeah, I mean, that is true.
I'm trying to find a positive now, quickly.
Actually, Falcons, even team, you know, anyone's game.
But it's like...
Yeah, they could both make it to a TI finals.
Yeah, true, great, yeah.
And then TI's roster shuffle's happened.
But, you know, I agree with Quinn.
The fact that, like, we are looking at some of these matchups,
I'm like, wow, that is something.
even tomorrow's game, right? Tundra, Heroic, Liquid, Game of Legion. If Heroic or Game of
Legion are to win there, it's like to go from having like a really, you know, troublesome
group stage to then qualifying. It's like, that's actually a really cool way to qualify
by beating one of those teams. So, yeah, really cool series.
Yeah, we don't have any teams qualified for Malta outside of the two teams that placed
in the 1-2 position when it came to our best 1-group stage. That was Navi and Ogien with
our format. That means they're directly into a top 4 placement for themselves. And of course,
already have that plane tickets to come and join us here in Molta. Still four more teams left though
to be decided of who else is going to get to join us here in this magnificent island. I'm excited
for both of those teams. The fact that now that one of them had gotten top four before and now
they both sort of tick that milestone off, they're getting closer and closer to that final day finish
which I think it starts to feel more real as a team. Like I can remember being on the bot
teams you get 12th every tournament and the first time we actually started getting like a top six
or a top four it's like yo it almost it's almost like pinch me this doesn't feel real and I think
that makes the team even better, like now that you can actually believe you can get there.
It just rewards your entire group stage. And Navi, they're the ones I think that take it better
because like OG, they've had these top 60s, they've had these like moments. Navi is kind of like,
they turn up, expectations, they fall short. So this is the first time I look at them and go,
wow, they're actually becoming a team. It's taking some time to click, but there's a chance.
I mean, what I like about both these teams is that they're both incredibly young. Like I think
the players on Navi are even younger than like OG, you know, there's like some 20 year olds,
You have Nico who's even younger so I think like getting like this really nice position like for them
It's just amazing because especially when you like the younger team, you know, you're not like around the block
You have you don't always be like your tundra's your spirits your Falcons. That's amazing
Do you think the five ages of the Navi players would add up to be more or less than out for ages combined?
It's gotta be
I feel like they could be younger younger. I think they're younger by like a few years. It's actually close
Look, we might have to do those numbers off camera right now because there's more important numbers to get to look at.
It's the prize pool because the players aren't only just playing to get to come here to Malta,
but of course a share of our lovely prize pool as well.
And for Navi and OG already securing a top four, you get to look at some pretty hefty numbers.
Yeah, and it also means a lot, especially for these younger players who haven't, you know, they haven't been around the block.
They don't have quite a big of a bank account. When you're from, you know, countries, you come from like Niku.
He's a young kid who knows what his family situation is right now you can that's life-changing money
It's a really really big deal and so those extra placements like they really really mean a lot especially for these newer players the scene
Yeah, also
Ti again where you've entered the new year. We're already looking down the line
You suddenly get yourself like a first place here second place a any first place in any tournament
You've already kind of added to the shortlist of hmm
Do we need to invite them should like is there enough there?
So get locking it a couple sands wins under your belt is gonna be very good when you get to the kind of ti season
Yeah, and whilst I look to like to look towards the future, maybe that's a little too far in the future because we're going to look at what today has in store for us specifically.
It is, of course, Falcons and extreme gaming that TI 14 finals run back for us. That's later in the day.
What we get to kick off with and have a chat about right now is Spirit and Yandex.
She's got to dodge away, team Yandex how making liquid look like fools.
So maybe just mocking the tusk a little bit that though.
Speaking of the tusk, he's got to set up another beautiful kill.
Garry's Harrow doesn't even get the chance to get his ultimate off.
They put a caught out, a carry, a dead body all the way home,
collabs no way for you to run himself.
He's running him down trying to find these other heroes
and he's doing a ton of damage, takes out the disruptor.
the first time in a while.
They were playing in the
first place at Dream League
just before Christmas and new
years happened for themselves
in spirit whilst they didn't
necessarily get a win for
themselves. Their start of
26 has been pretty good. They
made it into that finals of an
online tournament. Want able to
get out the win there and it
went to five games, so maybe
that's shaking them a little
bit and could be the result or
I guess the causation as to
why we saw a bit of a rough
group stage them. I mean, I
think they're on the come up
like that. I think it's weird
But in some ways I feel like they're sabotaging themselves in some of these hero picks.
They're like, they're still finding their footing for draft.
They're playing mid-tiny every once in a while,
collapse is playing like some off here.
Like I think when this team, when they've got their Mars,
when they've got their classic drafts,
I think they've looked pretty decent even with the stand-in.
But they've just had some games that are like, what the heck is this?
That's the funny thing with this roster though.
It's like when post here after shuffles, they've got 5th, 5th, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd.
So it's not as if they've had bad results.
But because it is spirit and the way that you talk about them, you're like,
Hmm, when is going to be the, uh, going to be the win?
When are you going to lock in a trophy with your little changes?
I mean, it's also like we expect so much from them that when you see like a slightly
uncharacteristic like game or draft, which we have seen in this tournament, it just looks off.
Because they're also like the type of players, I feel like they have so much like aura and confidence
and the experience that generally this doesn't happen to them.
Like someone, they V do it in the draft or they V do they play, but right now something doesn't seem just right.
Yeah, the, the, the, it's kind of exactly what you guys are saying, right?
the group stage results aren't really reflective of how well they did or didn't play in some of the
games where you look at their opponents, they beat game-allegent Navi, they beat OG as well. So Navi
and OG beating out the two teams that are already secured to Molta for Connix and then Tundra. I was
like, I couldn't even read my own handwriting then. That happens. That happens to the best of us.
Tundra is also, it's just this weird realm of like maybe familiar opponents you can really do well
against like who knows just a mixed background now it's for I mean it ticked
up toward the end right they had that tundra win that was pretty dominant
over tundra near the end of the group and they play for conics which is you
know what it is what it is but I think like it felt like it started off shaky
and it's on an uptick like spirits me right now feels like they're figuring
things out it's that spirit trajectory of oh here they come like and I think that
is the scariest fear is when they're ramping up and they keep winning series
and then they become a real problem like the the one thing that I can see
because one thing when we talk was for it we need to talk about that they
actually changed their coach.
Like, Silent was with them.
The more than just the stand-in as well.
Yeah, like, I think the face style you get.
Like, exactly.
Like, there's a lot of changes.
You know, you have a different mid-player.
Obviously, you know, you lost Miposhka a while ago.
But Silent, he was with them for, like, over five years.
And also, when you look at, like, you know, their YouTube
vlogs, he talks a lot.
Like, after the game, he's, like, one of the first voices,
like, guys, we should have done this different.
Next game, we'll do this in the draft.
Like, here, ah, you know, you had to just make this one
play different play, do this with the ages.
And it's fine.
losing this voice is a really big part of this team.
100%, I think.
A lot of when you look at competitive Dota,
you're always remembering like the moment of your Toro
making a big play or collapse doing this,
but like behind the scenes,
it is the discussions of a coach.
It's the one-liners of a player
that you're just never gonna see on a broadcast, right?
And of course, with Spirit,
they are in this position of losing the post-coach
originally, then silent.
Again, the results are not reflecting it
being a major issue for them.
They're still getting consistent top six in second place,
but it will eventually become a reason
why they aren't ever able to lift the trophy.
Because was the Silent lost before the season really kicked off,
like before that online tournament as well?
It wasn't January.
Okay, so that was before?
Yeah.
It was before the most recent online tournament.
Yeah.
They only know they're here.
Yeah.
Because like this draft we saw with this Ursa last pick pivot,
I feel like that's not this team.
No, it's not.
So I just refused to believe that if Silent was there,
that this would have happened.
Of course, you know, maybe they could have won this game
with some different gameplay, but it's just they lost some identity.
But the thing is that even if they had these off drafts, I remember in previous like the Lachios,
they had the random draft from the post-screw picks of this weird hero,
but they'd still be able to try and do it in these like small moments.
I think at the, like, we have some highlights to show you, but like there's these like little bits in Dota that Spirit aren't finessing the same way as the previous year,
because like here, you have claps walking, sorry not claps, or you have your tour going into the pit,
but look at the positioning of Spirit, they're just kind of clumped up on the low ground,
they're not preparing themselves for the inevitable contest, because if you look at the minimap,
Extremely ready to fight this they have a Mars they have a primal a shadow thing heroes that want to get into the fight
This is not a good position for it
We can play out the clip and it is gonna pretty much on both this way where nothing stays going in
Panto is walking up the high ground. I'm turning back around to use golem
He's not ready with the golem and like this type of replay review after the game. They just go we need to be clean here
They should be we shouldn't be lost at Aroshan we need to be ready and I think spirit of the past they always make these plays
They always turn it around your Toro won't be dying
You will be like 1v9ing. So it's like these little moments is why they win these that lose these random games
And maybe why they're not being able to lift a trophy
But they still play so well outside of this one moment, but they are able to make deeper runs
But these are all mistakes. They weren't really making them the same way last year. Yeah
I mean, I think this team historically has this almost feeling of like inevitability
because you said aura and I think different teams as you win more and more you do have this this actual sort of
feeling this presence almost when teams play against you they play worse and I
think Spirit has actually lost that to some extent I think because they've lost
so much and they've been shaky teams aren't scared versus them anymore and I
think that impacts like your ability to win these games as they go to stretch
because teams aren't playing shaky you may be playing confident but so are they
and so the game is much more even yeah because I think it's also interesting
like they're so good that it becomes so like apparent when they get clutched from
full to zero like you don't see this from your tour or you don't generally see
this from a player like a Marward they just find this moment where oops I die
from full to zero you guys weren't ready like what's happening but what I also
want to talk about for Spirit is that they're a bit weird in terms of who they
lost to and who they beat because they actually they beat a lot of the top
teams like when you look at it they beat Navi they beat OG they beat Tundra and
then you know they beat Reconyx and game religion on the bottom but they lost to a
lot of the middle pack of the groups and they're usually just not that I would
say like inconsistent but it also goes to show you that they've obviously got
the skill when they are informed when they do have a good game they will wipe
the floor with you. I would argue though historically spirit have always a dominant best of three team
best of five team because of the adjustments that they make right the people that we mentioned
the kind of leaving the roster of spirit are the people that would during a game one loss
they'd go this is the adjustment and game two draft identity would be very different I would
argue in best of one spirit of course you don't have that adjustment so it's just draft what you
have go for the play lean on the aura in the game lean on the kind of the camaraderie knowing
exactly what you need to do if you make mistakes sure but I think spirit at least has shown us
that they need the full stretch of the best of three to kind of showcase the the years of experience they have.
It's definitely backed up by seeing just how close some of their games are. It's like you look at it,
they're a team that's sitting there, they're five and six, but the Falcons game, that was pretty close
as well. Same with the heroic one, they had a nice start for themselves, so it doesn't really feel as
straightforward, but all those clutch moments you guys talked about, whether they're present or not
right now in spirit, at least it is now, leaning towards their favor of being in a best of three,
and they're coming up against a Yandex, right?
We talked about it, they ended the year of 25 beautifully.
They've been able to come into 26,
and it isn't necessarily winning straight off the back of that,
you know, a little bit of time off,
but they're still having good games,
and now it feels like this best of one
might have a similar sort of story
where they are a best of three team.
They like to make those adjustments within themselves.
Yeah, I think they're, like, they're a team
that's still finding their footing in some sense.
Like, I look at this team in some ways, similarly to Spirit,
where I look at their drafts,
And there's some drafts where I feel they just shoot themselves in the foot.
There's strange decisions that are made, and they also have played this tiny maid a whole bunch to me.
I look at the series, can you stay away from this hero?
Like, who stays away from it further?
I think you look at Shira Junior.
He's played almost exclusively melee heroes throughout this tournament.
And I think there is actually a dynamic of him playing with Sokso,
where Sokso is generally a player that plays more catching-based heroes.
He's lower damage, but he's set up.
And I think that sort of coincides with Shira Junior, where they're both playing these catchy bros.
And I think that that can create weirdness in their drafts where if Watts is not playing like a range here
Like a TA or a drawl type dynamic then you can run out of damage
But that tail list the tiny was an S tier, but you said you hated it like this is a melee list
Yeah, no way versus range. I like melee. So the next tier list would then have tiny in a lower position
You notice the top tier is red what is pretty typically associated with really good
Okay, some tier list education is required on this panel. I
I feel like we've done more than enough to list maybe you guys can
We have that is
We could maybe
T list the impact of Yandex play his absolutely well about an overlap for that's not a really mean and I don't know
for it to be
I got this one. Okay. We need to talk about socks and we talked about him a lot
But what I want to show and he's like the worst no no just
This guy is the best. Let me take it away because this guy,
POST 4 can be kind of like a tourist in like a griefer role.
But I want to show what this guy does. He goes to mid.
Look how he fogs now.
We're going to show Niko's perspective because when Niko goes to this water room,
he doesn't know where Saksa is.
He even misses the scan because he's like,
oh, he's going to still come from the triangle.
But the thing is, one play in Dota will lead into the next one all the time.
So he secures us often by pulling.
He gets the first kill mid.
Because they get to kill at minute 4,
it actually means that Niko is level 6 after the Void Spirit.
So in this clip, he still have a 5 on the storm, they get the kill here.
So, 4 minute play, plays into the 6 minute play, now later he dies, they have to TP back to the mid lane.
They even their off-laner TP's, so there's more chaos, more stuff happening, so you have all these clips that play into each other.
Now Starks are like, okay, job's done in the mid lane, I'm gonna TP into the off-lane.
Because of the chaos in the mid lane, got the juice TP'd off-lane to help the Wisps shrine.
Now they know he's coming through the gate, so they go here, so it's like all these things that you can do from just one player.
Setting up mid, setting up his offlane, because his safe lane is in Urza.
They're totally chilling against the Bristleback.
And if you then, after this, get to look at the net worth, look at this early game.
Bro went mid twice to kill the mid guy, so his mid guy is super chill.
His offlane is free farming, his carry is free farming.
So the entire early game, this guy is the main point of this team.
He is, but don't forget, there's an underlord in the offlane.
The tanky blob that exists, right?
It's like the same logic of like 9-class when the vision was doing well.
If you're offlane, it can't be stable and like do his job.
Everything you just mentioned will potentially create a problem elsewhere, but when you have the offlaner who's just like an absolute rock,
Saks has all the freedom to do all these creative plays and this information that, you know, Kezi was talking about.
Yeah, there's inconsistencies on both sides. That's why neither of these teams have secured their place right now at Malta,
but after this best of three, one of them will definitely have their ticket.
So let's get on into it and let's start this Biot3 with a game one draft.
Well a lot has changed for spirit in the last couple of months and so we're seeing them
sitting in that middle of the park.
The Andex, it feels like the inverse. They're being quite stable, they're forever improving
on themselves here, but both of them succumbing to some questionable drafts as coined by
my analysts. So let's see how game one here shapes off without first couple of bands from
the Andex being a Batrider, a Triant, a Jekiro really focusing on the supports and Spirit
taking out Eraser, a Brewmaster and a Viper.
Yeah, these feel very, very standard to me. I don't, I think some of the other games
16 first-phase bands, so they're like, oh, this is very team-specific, whereas this game
like, sure, Brew is maybe a little team-specific or hero, but like, all of it feels within
the realm of everyone is kind of first-facing these heroes, this is very stock standard.
Yeah, nothing crazy, I think, from Ida team, so, which does mean that you get a lot of
like, the normal heroes, like, in the meta, especially like, maybe heroes that you're
also like, screaming, or that are more new on the block.
I notice Spirit have dabbled more and more with the Largo.
They have played it on, I think it's been both on Pantel, but also Collapse, so it could
be something that later down the line, they could be looking towards.
The Shadowed Demon Heroes, it's such a solid, stable first pick.
He's good against so many things, and even the stuff that's good against him is like,
yeah, sure, you're sort of good against him, but like he's a support and he's preventing
a buttload of cores, he's great against really big items, like the hero is just, it's a very
powerful hero.
I thought he would lose a little bit of value when Crimson became undispellable and they
nerfed his facet a little bit but it just seems like the hero is a good laner, he's stable and he
does all the things we just mentioned. Surprisingly Spirit actually haven't played it yet in the
last lane, I thought maybe in... Really? Yeah I know, I thought maybe in one of their 11 best of
ones it either would have gotten through or they would have had the potential to pick it up but
nope, not yet, it's kind of crazy. Entering the tournament it was banned against them, then there
was a couple games where I was just kind of ignored and yep it's... Just that bad? Yeah it's
instead of sitting there along the drafts.
But for Spirit though, I would argue it is a shift away from how they were able to win
their last couple of games, right?
When you look at the last kind of support heroes, it's aggression, map play, they had
clocks and shamans and hoodwinks, like heroes that want to do things.
And then you look at Shadow Demon again, it's more of a chill, reactionary hero, but I think
sometimes Spirit can draft themselves, these like low damage lineups that need time and
scaling and kind of patience to get online.
That's why, of course, whenever you see Spirit XG, the games are always great, because the teams can do the same thing, but to consider, Spirit haven't been utilizing this pacing to win games in some so far.
I really like the generous ones into the SD. I think SD struggles to deal with this hero. Also, if you think what SD wants to do later, it's like he singles out one guy with his old divine favourites, undispellable.
You have a lot of kills also to buff up this one guy that SD traditionally kind of wants to kill.
And I think it also pairs well with most of the support duels that Soxa and Malady like to play.
You know the Chen with the melee tusk, the melee tiny that makes stuff happen.
I think they've got a really nice setup so far.
Then you put in the Mars to play around with the vision as well.
So it's like a Shadow Demon that's trying to save people that you can't because there's a Mars
and there's the laning that can get uncomfortable because of a Chen.
So yeah, you end up having a good drop to try to annoy him.
I think so far both teams are making very reasonable responses here. I don't think there's anything that sticks out to me. I think they're very solid. It makes sense. You see the offlaner in Mars, you respond with carry. And they're just deliberating on what their five is.
And they're just deliberating on what their 5 is.
Um, because Kessir is also, like, it's interesting because this hero ebbs and flows in popularity so much.
The hero just keeps winning. It feels like even whenever it's unpopular or popular, it continues to win.
So I wonder what it is that makes teams shy away from it.
More, it's a hero that I think is not fully understood, because it's so new and it's also so weird and people don't even know what half the spells do.
Again, it's like, as long as you feel like you have a good lane, you probably can pick it right.
They would play into most carry matchups. It's just a matter of are you actually gonna help your team or you're griefing your team by winning or losing your lane?
I mean, I am wondering what five they want to put with it. You did mention the warlock, which is kind of stable
I mean, I feel like they usually have like a bit more nuance with their support duo like SD warlock
I think absolutely it can't work. It's pretty stable, but I also like this
Just like this range melee combo, I think it's just a little nicer to play.
Also, if you were to pick that, then Yandex would have got the Tusk for themselves.
We just saw the clips of what Satsuk can do.
And then you have Chen Mars really kind of locking down the side lanes.
Tusk being able to rotate in between, kind of make these moves.
Thanks for also kind of respecting what Yandex could have gone for themselves.
And then Tusk, Keds, you put them in the same lane.
You are just going to 100 to 0 here.
So a lot of kind of skirmish can power between these two here.
Especially when Keds does get that first item deso.
Or even, again, the battle fury if you're playing more for the farm.
Still very annoying to play with Tusk.
Yeah, I mean, I think you're thinking it's a bit interesting in that.
I think Spirit generally sticks pretty tightly to the melee plus ranged lane duos.
I think they very rarely have double melee or double ranged.
So if they're playing Shadow Demon 5, it's not a roll.
This hero, I feel really excels in because you don't get the ability to stack the triangle,
which is like kind of a big part of this hero is you just buy the lane and you stack triangle.
You get your levels off of that because the hero's so level dependent.
So if they were to put Shattered Demon safe lane and Tusk 4 against Chen, which is like better for the laning matchup
So you generally want the melee hero against Chen and lane it means you get Shattered Demon in the safe lane
Which is like a little odd
I'm wondering here a bit. Okay, so I like this a lot from Yandex because I think if you look at spirits 18 picks
It's either like some puck ember that is like hard to catch or it's gonna be the offline guide
I use a lot of teamfights which there's a high chance they were looking at like, you know, the underlords the the tight hunters
So for Yandex to pick the Ursa here, I think does make a lot of sense
You have some you know some stuff that you don't love about SD
But Mars can cover that other heroes can jump him
You should have a good lane if the tusk does end up being the four so I like this a lot from Yandex
Yeah, I think picking
Save the guy and then you just come right out of the silence and kind of die after
I mean, Kenz also is about playing on the limits, right, pre-BKB, like, the fact that you want to buy Manta as well before BKB, any science, anything, just to kind of manipulate your ability to stand your ground, stop getting the raptor dance off, is going to feel quite nice.
Okay, so this makes me think that it is going to be Tost4, Primal is just going to cut waves.
I think you should do fine with plus primal in this line because you'll just drag waves until primal is like until it's five minutes
And then primal is just gonna cut and these heroes are not very good at killing primal if he's cutting running around doing a shenanigans
You don't have much way to actually lock down that doesn't involve Mars
The support duo kind of needs an extra mid hero with some some like some lockdown
And so without that, I think primal have a very very chill game as here the collapse is
insanely good
Yeah, I'm he's even I would say it's his best hero
There was a time where he had like a bit of a maybe in the off phase
But his primer was he was destroying like every game and he will like show up in the mid lane sometimes minute six
Because he's been cutting successfully then killing the mid guy
So I do think they found like a nice middle ground of still finding this like melee guy that can go in first
But it doesn't just get super dumpstered by the earth sender lane
I mean especially because you know the way that morale plays from the mid lane
He's playing embers queen of pains storm like super aggressive heroes
You now have what every hero that wants to enable whichever to go and do things on the map right?
I was worried about sometimes shadow demon line-ups not having skirmishing and play more defensive
But Kez tusk primal the natural hero pull of morale. It really is a very forward-thinking lineup that can try and play into Yandex
Do you think there's anything missing from spirits lineup then?
Honestly, it's pretty well rounded it has
Points to play it can take towers who cares it can take Roshan
And it can do all the little bits, so yeah, no rule opposition to the lineup so far.
I mean, something I would like is still a type of playmaker,
because I think Primal being the only one that goes in first is not super easy to play.
Obviously the hero does excel at it, but you could help him a bit with...
I think Puck could be quite good for Spurt.
I would also say that their bands would help this hero get through the game.
You did take out the beast, you did take out the Huskar.
Lucky that is kind of Morel's, Morel, sorry, kind of wheelhouse. He's gonna very happily pick up any of those heroes.
Yeah, I mean, I think you, for Spirit, I don't think you want another melee hero.
You've already got the melee off, and you have melee carry. If you pick another one,
I think you can run it to potential damage problems. And the way that Tusk likes to skirmish and fight early game,
he's running in there and being the body for you. You want some oomph falling up behind him, so I could see something like the Queen as well.
Well, it kind of just depends on what's banned here and what you see in the pool, what makes sense.
There's always this dance of last phase bands when it's the two mids remaining.
Where you kind of have to think about, okay, what do they want? What do these bands mean?
And there's some foresight there.
So I think when you have that time, a lot of it is used on the band.
And then as soon as you ban it here, you know what your pick is, right?
So they're using a lot of time here for good reason.
Do you think their bands would have been Hascar and Puck if they wanted QWOP or as Beast,
Anoyed club to like a similar extent
I
Think puck is very dealable. Okay, I'm spirit heroes like I think yeah, if it Yanix would have picked it
It's like it's somewhat low damage and I think it's there's a lot of two-sided out
It's it's not particularly good against any of these heroes
It's not maybe the easiest one to kill in but he's also not cutting through them necessarily
This is definitely good against club that lane is pretty hard. Yeah, that makes sense
Okay, so, again, depending on what spirit go for, I always seem to, when I see last
pic of the chair of junior, I'm like, I always want to see Earthra or cook it myself.
I'm a, I'm a sucker for it.
Oh, you're an enjoyer of Butboy.
Yeah.
Cause couldn't it have been a certified hater the last three days?
I am Butboy hater.
Number one.
It's just like, when you see yourself with like an Earthra and your lineup and some,
some like kind of damage mitigation from both sides, it's just really annoying, cause
you go for the spirit we've mentioned earlier, but then that will change now, what I've mentioned.
I retract the tears
It happens
I mean now the puck and co-op we talked about for spirit so I looking good for you and X. Yeah for sure
It's it's honestly, it's it's just a classic response this to me makes it a bit surprising then that they bent these mats are instead of puck
Yeah, normally puck is like a classic counter pick and it's something that spirit would leave in the pool in the past
but they would pair with silencer or
or Lyon, Shaman, something that changes the kill dynamic here,
whereas now, Puck, he will not die in this early game to really anything,
and the hero scaling in Storm is very good, so I'm surprised to be able to leave this.
Yeah, because not just is he good against the Storm, I think they were also naturally looking
for a hero that doesn't mind angling to like this primal beast later when he's cutting,
he's also giga good against the two supports. I mean, generally I lean on spirits like nearly
no matter what they have when they play, just because of, you know, they're insane.
I'm a gigafanboy of the scene, but this time around, it's okay what they have,
but I favor Yandex's draft by quite a bit.
Yeah, I mean, Yandex, they have this up a line up that they're offering up Spirit to
eventually, you know, make a mistake. Like, if you do initiate incorrectly,
Prime or Storm, because once they go in, if you get locked down, you kind of have some problems.
So, you know, Yandex is just about playing on that patience, but the Spirit, they have so much
layering skirmish and kind of pop off potential that we've seen you know RCY on his stones for it's from
Gamelige and like the same thing can happen here right he just plays out his lane he gets the good
active runes from bruce and testing them and then he plays through the nap. All right there's clear cut
ways that both spirit and yanex can play out their drops but it doesn't feel like a winner is as clear
cut to try and predict from any of my three analysts here and it's the best of three which means there
There is always room for improvement from either side, but with the best of one, with
the best of one, with a game one, you would love to get the win to let see who exactly
is going to take it.
to get into the action, ladies
and gentlemen here between team
spirit and a Yandex fog. Looking
forward to this one. We've got
two lineups. Yeah, I think the
thing to talk about mostly is
in the back of the game.
You can see that. You know,
you can see that the team
chooses last pick for Yandex and
you gotta say right when you
look at it. Spirit's cause
there. They're all pretty
reliant on the mobility. The
dream coils and control from
Chiro junior could go pretty
hard this game. Very good.
Dream coil game for sure, and
some harder abilities to catch
sometimes versus the puck right
like you can see some of these
coming in until there's a
blink on the primal or
something, you know, you can
usually be able to play around
either storm zipping into
vortex. You a tough scrunting
other thing because I don't think I've ever seen anyone do this without Gyrocopter except when
it was broken but Tosk has Drinking Buddies own and I think it's a pretty interesting
guy too. Yeah that's pretty rare. Right yeah. He's not playing with Gyro but he is playing
with extremely explosive damage but he's playing with Primal and Lane so this hero benefits
massively from Drinking Buddies literally the double benefit. Tag Team does literally nothing.
Drinking Buddies is damage and movement speed which is damage. That's true. Yeah that could be
Yeah, I mean, because what right if you look at the matchup that they're up against, you know, how
How safe playing duo are gonna be on yandex's side of things. They're gonna be pretty scared
Yeah, like it's a check and sometimes the overall
You know the first level or so can be a bit weak unless he gets like that kill with the penitence and the blood grenade
And yeah, you could definitely take advantage of it
So a cool approach
We'll try to talk about that drinking buddies potential later too because the saving potential this game is something
We're gonna have to talk about also for spirits as they have the tusk in the eski versus the mars
Yeah, we're in for a treat. I also, you know, socks are playing the more type of I haven't seen them play this in a while. So we have a lot to talk about.
Yeah, look at what's the
See the skill shots coming out from that lane in particular, right? Yes, thanks. And notice their eyes on your tour.
Look at the angle for a for any sort of setup. Yeah, contribute just out of range as it was.
Yeah, yet, one is not the greatest to get a get a kill. I would say spirits is actually infinitely better to go for those type of first blood. So can't quite go for it.
Yeah, no no get the setup for the three bouncy rings
And down bottom
Malady, let me know you
He's gonna try and mess around with your tour as he tries to get to the lane
And of course get the block on so he can get that first wave meeting underneath the tower just to try and make your tour
as tough as possible
Almost lost the creep we'll get denied sucks. We'll take that one out, but
Almost ends up getting it so 30 seconds
They won't have a creep up top. So that pressure that we were talking about could be there
Maybe at least a couple creeps. I like that attempt there as well from Saksa
He threw out a dead shot just in case you know
There's the sort of TP from Yutaro's the lane was in the area and it wasn't in connects
But you definitely see what he's trying to do. They'll go fully aggressive on to notice immediately
And once he doesn't have Saksa by his side trying to set the lane up
start for themselves
I got what he's doing. I really like the lane setups for spirit
I actually want to say that they can, I mean that maybe not win all three lanes
We can come out pretty even or ahead in all three lanes because bottom lane
We've seen this Sd first plus Kez versus Mars a few times
It can do pretty well and it's a risky lane as we said volatile lane for the side Yandex through the skill shots
Storm versus puck
Historically it can be pretty good for the storm nowadays
And yeah, this Tusk and Primal, they're gonna get stuff top since Chan can't prevent the creep pulling
Yeah, I'm saying already so we obviously saw this the other day on
on, uh, on Skeeter, right?
I don't know if it's Skeeter who necessarily started it,
but Yatora is also going to be going for this Vlad's build first
on the, uh, the Kez, as opposed to the Falcon blades
that we kind of used to see, uh, you know,
be built first all the time on the same plane, Kez.
Which is really cool. So I actually, um, I'm glad you actually said that,
because I did talk to them about that specifically,
and they were saying that Mikkei, I believe, had started it,
but I think he was doing it on, like, Luna and stuff.
So, bottom, get that shot.
Oh, she didn't turn the path, so they get the angle with the spear.
That should be first blood.
and no first able to get a very nice angle there to catch out Panto.
You caught a little too far forward.
That's the thing right there.
It's a volatile lane if they hit the skill shots.
And you know, these guys pretty good.
They don't miss an awful lot here, these two.
They can set up some pretty cool plays between the two of them.
100%.
I think Muerta is probably one of the most, like, I want to say,
least impact or high impact in terms of laning phase.
Because if you just miss both abilities drastically,
it's dreadful and they're very expensive.
But if you hit them, they're very potent in the leading phase.
They've matched up so far, but we're saying that sort of leaves it,
I think you were expecting, right, you know, Morale getting that advantage
in this Storm vs. Puck matchup,
which is definitely only going to continue to be a bit difficult for Chiridjrnja,
at least until sort of the sixes online,
and he starts getting rotations coming in from his supports to try and punish the storm.
But that could be hard, because, yeah, Morale's able to get this sort of lead,
keep this XP advantage.
It's unlikely to be a game right where they're going to be able to make a move on the storm
At a stage where the puck hits the six before the storm with this sort of start Murale should be hitting the six first to bottom
That's just aggressive here around the Lotus spear from notice will push the throw back out
They'll be able to secure there on Yandex. Oh pretty low
And so he's going to go for the disruption set up on to notice
They're just gonna push back. Yes, sorry for a still up to jump him with the God's review was ready from notice to push him back once again
I mean if they're dealing with this well again with the two of them the dead shots the rebukes the spears pushing back spirit each time
Spirit try and go on them. They're protecting themselves nicely
See I was towards the top bit of a chase down there. What was ever a rundown Rue?
He was not yeah, he was not giving up on that one chased him pretty far out of the lanes to get the kill
But he will succeed in that and take him down
What for the boots just to chase them out so we can stop the creep pulling his bottom
They can actually end up getting at the end of it all they could even go beyond the tower potentially and bully Panto a little bit a little on the
Manor
Yeah, they don't have anything any sort of regen to pump up any further spells
Yeah, and they're there I don't think they're really missing any of the skill shots
It's also far section noticed absolutely on the ball here with the dead shots and the spears
Playing into the safe lane of spirit very nicely and causing some early difficulties for spirit
I love when I look when you see these type of you know skill shot here of landing the abilities
It is a fun line socks a beautiful dead shots hitting one hero and bouncing on to the second one
I think in every single occasion so far, but yeah, your total just missed it
Well, I think it was like two and a half creep level most under that tower there when they get the kill
So probably the worst time for him to die to
Farm so far of course is to been fine for you Toro in terms of CS. He's getting a lot more out the lane than noticed
We'll see Murrell not able to get any of those water runes and out of bottle regen so
he just get a mid grapple pretty low I think he's just got him during like literally as
the grapple animation comes off with the dead shot so they can't actually close the gap
and Soxa will survive probably because of that too.
Nice little play, small little interaction both very close to the six Murrell still
that little bit closer, so might just back up and clear up a neutral camp to ensure that he's got that safety.
Even though they've gotten these three kills, which puts him a little bit ahead, but if you look at the actual net worth, it's looking still pretty solid, as I mentioned.
Spirit's lane is still very safe in terms of just farming. It's just these kills that we do see that Yannix has been able to get has put themselves at least an even or slightly ahead point inside the laning phase for now.
But still missing some CS, you know the Mars notice that although he's gonna kill he's actually bottom of the course
And see his playing versus that tough lane matchup still
All right top lane malady he's got the go he's got the golems already double mud golems
He's got the double stuns or the shard golems. Is he gonna use them to go for something or is he just gonna farm?
And what's this just got the phase boots out so they could try to aggressive me
We're definitely seeing in terms of around the rune sport.
Socks up.
The damage here is picked up from Morell.
He could have turned to Saxon with the amplify damage.
Morell easy as the damage to kill Saxon off.
A nice kill here to be picked up by the mid-storm.
I thought they might go for that kill top because of this move.
That's what I was going to mention.
It's around the six minute power rune.
So I think maybe they were,
I was thinking that maybe they anticipated that collapses alone,
but it's not an easy kill by any means.
You can just charge away if they don't time the charge golem stun perfectly.
So
Yeah, and overall like looking at the primal beasts game in general
I just love this hero right now. So I did want to talk about a little bit. I think it's definitely on the rise
Yeah, he definitely has some good opportunities to get some pretty big grabs
There's not really the you know any saves in order to prevent him from getting these grabs
He just has to watch out for these dead shots and silences in particular. So
Could be pretty impactful a lot of times I see these primals they're playing versus like shadow demon and then they can never even cast
onslaught because they're purged. Seven minute wisdom. They'll be able to hold the defense
around it, it's actually a low system, ensuring that Panto's not going to be able to get away
with a bit of a steal. He'll be able to take his own on the top. Panto's just putting down
some defensive ward, maybe expecting a rotation, formality at some point soon, because Chen
has hit 5.
I'll just have to notice to see if they get the angle.
Probably calling that the mids are missing right?
We both, Chira and Morel, both off the map right now, I think that it's going to be kind
of a posture.
They got to prepare for that next power rune, but also be prepared for those potential ganks
on the side lanes.
I
Both of them just immediately back to the mid. I don't see an opportunity to go quite yet for the side things
They want to try and maintain control of mid here for the eight minute power room
Actually just take it do with the creeps. Yeah, something too crazy free for the mids to get the hands on
Where's this first coil gonna be used that's the question
Kind of need to have them where to with you. It feels like to go for any type of coil play
Doesn't feel like they have the best follow-up
And I don't know if he wants to pay with the Mars that early on laps
Try and set something up on to Malady
But Malady does have what's up by his side the stuns coming from the mud golems collapse
We'll finish the kill with the dead shot from sacks and catches on to collapse pushes him back
And that's gonna allow Watson to continue to chase him down
You can have another overpower in a second collapse with the jukes around the trees
He might just be able to keep himself far enough away at least to make them spend a lot of time trying to kill him
See if you can hide from Watson
He can't saxes able to come across lays down the call another dead shot connects. He's gonna try to
He made a lot of space there collapse
They could have quite get him he actually able to get the deny to like there really like the stupid camp as well
How much damage does that do?
The stupid toxic bomb.
Five damage from the satire mind stealer.
But Owen, it's all the little tiny things.
The cobalt cup, the movement speed, the windlace,
just moving, quickened cobalt cup to super fast.
He was, you saw it there.
Yeah, he was zooming.
And then he's soul ring too.
That's the smart thing, right?
Soul ring under those crappy creeps, as you call them.
So he's pretty much...
Yeah.
He's up.
My goodness.
It's the last one.
Okay.
A lot of space.
Yeah, he's definitely got...
Got what he wanted out of that move there, collapse.
Very nice from them, but at the same time looking at net worth
It's actually yandex has been the ones who've been improving in terms of these last few months
Even though the spirit who got a couple kills the economy game for yandex is the one improving more
Another's there from worlds jump away won't be able to stick around long enough to get the power in
It's gonna be the space for children. You just get that instead
That was, that was, I don't know, that was quite a miss up there from notice, I'm not
sure.
Not even attempting for like the spear into the arena, he just drops the arena and then
didn't cancel the animation and he's waking up, getting, getting the hang of it for the
players.
Play this game.
The middle.
If he's where to Pantheon, we want to try and make a play.
It looks like they're sort of trying to bait here on the mid lane.
And Meryl's baiting is hard.
Can he get the Bortech setup?
Snowball's coming in.
It's going to land on the Trojan, but he has the one charges.
And he's got enough HP, so they don't get that close to getting the kill attempt at all.
He's coming in from the side.
Look at the worst malady deadshot this time.
He's going to miss.
Doesn't matter.
Malady's still going to keep his distance.
Trojan is going to drop the dream call down on the collapse.
Rue's trying to step up to help out.
Oh, power. Defensive Defender comes out from Pantheon to try and keep Collapse safe.
Snorble as well. Buying safety for him allows him to back away. Nobody's gonna be going down.
Oh, man. Not only do they have double save supports on Spirit, they both got the Ash Legion Shield.
So they can both barrier their allies as well too. So they have double, double save on the two supports.
Does that barrier stack? If two people press it, do you get the double or do you have to wait for one to wear off?
That is actually one I don't know, because I usually don't end up stacking with that.
I haven't touched that, that's why you're really good at good questions.
I imagine it probably works as individual instances, right?
We'll see, we'll try to do them after we get like a two-way barrier coming up.
I'll try to watch.
Yeah, it might have some variety of original.
Yeah, even what, yeah, just keeping one another alive.
Now it collapses, able to back off, clear up this pretty big ancient stack.
It's gonna be a lot of money here, go towards him.
Pretty much the blink dagger in fact, he's gonna be very close after he farms this.
I that's that's huge for collapse and over all for the side of spirit honestly because their initiation is kind of lackluster
As we're saying their counter initiators with the tusk in the shadow demon for now
That might be enough to just go for the puck in a lot of situations
Watch stream call back up. We'll not want to use it just for route
And it could it could get hard for them to make the news
I mean, yeah, because they have all the setup they have to catch for the three cores
but there's so much save on spirit and
And honestly until Watson's ready to join the fight,
it is just going to be hard for them to get kills right,
Yandex, if they want to be aggressive.
Which maybe that's fine, because maybe they don't want to.
Maybe they're happy to make sure that the game is safe
for Watson to continue to free Farmers the Ursa,
and just being confident in the potential down the line.
Which I think that's a pretty fair sort of way
to sort of see this game going.
because both of them do have saves against the Ursa.
He ultimately read the Ursa can be quite a nuisance.
We'll see them try and get the set up onto Watson's top.
But he's got backup.
Malzion's sacks are both here.
Spirit they're gonna have to back away from this.
Not able to force for the play.
My real big worry though,
like you're talking about all this with Ursa
getting the farm, right?
It's versus the Shadow Demon.
The Purge is probably one of the best ability to game.
So that's my one worries.
I want them to get some stuff done.
I don't want them to sit back and play.
No, it's gonna get the setup with your renon towards your Toro, get the spear as well, your Toro did get off the wrap to dance, doesn't matter.
No one near enough field to survive.
There's heal for me, I'll set the dreamcorder, catch Banzo and the chase down, so Yandex will make some quick moves here, getting Watson involved.
Oh, there we go.
Just saw a hesitate thing, get the last take, gets back in, does manage to pick up the kill Watson, and they'll take the tower.
So we're now starting to see, even sort of before you have the battle period done, I think actually might have it done, it's just coming out of the courier.
They are getting that little bit more active a little bit. Yeah, I don't want I don't want to see them
Just hate creeps versus can't storm and you have Chen right you want to and Chen and Ursa
You want to be kind of dictating pace in terms of objectives as well, too
You can it creeps, but you can also fight and take objectives very easily around these after what Ursa does as a hero
You could honestly again spirits lineup
They probably will be able to force a pretty early Roshan right if you're the yandex this game
You could do it at almost any moment if it's sneaky enough
If the change of sense creeps in the air so goes you guys can kind of just do all it. It's just about the information
Collapse with this early blink didn't find a kill so notice now what he's like blink dagger picked up at the same time
Has a way to also counteract versus this primal
And so I did want to point this out also. I'm seeing a lot more people doing it
I'm happy about it people are buying primal shard pretty fast. It's a second item now
Yeah, that is early. Okay, well, why do you think it sort of bumps up?
In, uh, Pride Zero.
In the trees, Malady is gonna be found.
Very catching him hanging around.
Uh, yeah, what do you think, like, what's so good about getting the shot early?
I think it's underrated for a long time.
It's very low mana cost. It's great for your extra cast.
You can combo Chainstine with a lot of different things.
It's great with the fast set as well.
Yeah, I think it's just an amazing item that people just kind of underrated for some time, and then it got buffed.
Because you also get uproar, right? So if you hit people, you get uproar stacks too,
so you can go in with full uproar stacks if you get... So there's like a million different
reasons that it could be good. It does slow down your BKB timing though, which can be
a concern. So maybe in this type of game when he's playing versus Mars and Puck, he could
still accelerate and just look for the BKB so he can just get the hard lockdown since
there's nothing to pierce it. Oh, yeah. Let's say when we get there.
to the left of the map.
He's about 1100 gold away from
having Desolator done on top of
Vladimir's.
Okay, Watson's got nice
that ancient stack to clear up
here about half the way towards
his blink dagger.
Here's the move though from the
rest of Yandex.
So I suggest that's three of
them looking for this play
around the dream coil and arena.
Scan does connect.
It will be okay.
They'd expect that move to come in.
It was a slower-paced game we've got going on here.
4-5, 16 minutes, I think me and you at least have had a lot of
high kill count games. We've had a couple of these heroic ones, of course, too, so
strap yourselves in.
Sort of bit more of that creep hitting, perhaps, waiting for that objective timing.
For right now though, Yandex, they have this mech and this arena combo, so they are very strong rallied around Malady.
Unless you get picked off before the fight.
Surgeoning?
It's going to go for the jump forward again.
It doesn't want to drop the dreamcloy just for a tusk.
And Superior are doing a pretty good job of avoiding
any sort of attempt from Yandex at this stage of the game.
You can only imagine, you know,
Yatora is very happy with the amount of space
that he's being given this next wave.
We're pretty much giving that decelerator,
so he's going to have his big height and pick up.
And Farmforsen say still fantastic.
Link dagger now picked up.
So, link battle fury, 60 minutes.
Again, super fast on the earth for this game.
Those objectives are soon, like you said, those are soon going to start going on to the menu here.
16 minutes. Rosh can be a possibility, but Torment in the next three minutes looks like they are looking to secure the area, at least on the side of Yandexpex.
Get some extra vision. There's already a ward in a sentry, placed from the side of Spirit. Collapse did commit, by the way, so he did end up committing for that shard.
It means he can also play at more of a distance sometimes too rather than having to wait or you know go in at first
Like you can throw this rock into an arena and then pick and choose his target too
So he's got a lot of different opportunities perhaps with this
And seeing on morale this is cool not something you see every game
But the storm spirit this game even though he's got double save
He's actually queuing up the BKB the silences from the puck and the more type of up something. That's yeah
That's I mean, that's a very very safe build from him. Yeah, yeah, which of course is gonna easy
It's going to be very difficult to kill this storm unless they do find him with some sort of arena spear opening
But that's never easy to do you know outside of that in terms of instant stuns
There's not a lot so he's going to get depressed with BKB and even if he as you say even if he does get clipped by that spear
They're gonna have saves to get him out. So yeah, what it's gonna be pretty invincible in these early fights
I mean, which needs to be by my most BKB is there now because they do have the deaths are done
Coming out in the middle. See, talking about the Keds, Toro's going to get jumped in, down on the bottom lane.
And not a bad kill at Toro for Yandex to find. They do need to slow this Keds down.
The timing to his finding. Same time up on top. They'll get a trade kill, collapse and roof, finding Malady.
But you know, if Yatora being dead once again, I mean, the Maddie's come off a fair few times.
You look at the carries so far, right? Yatora's been killed off three times.
on the other side. What's it? He's yet to be found. 202. Having a very, very smooth start here on the Ursa.
And it's a battle theory, you know, of course it's a battle theory, because it always is, but it's a battle theory versus a non-battle theory.
Not carving out. Best of lads, so more about maybe perhaps slim fighting style.
So you'll definitely see that Ursa probably continue to go forward here as the Toro's actually now the bottom of the course himself.
We haven't seen the empty Ursa in the match up right in terms of the first up, but right now,
Yeah, definitely some concerns at least for the side of spirit in terms of getting your Toro online.
Yeah, now let's see what what spirit do do with this considering the builds right because yeah
You mentioned obviously a chance wallet as you see a dream caller here and a push back
All night pull that from the drinking buddies actually pulling him out the spear
So we didn't get like force through the dream caller probably cost for his life
But a very cute safe there for a drinking buddy spirit
They're gonna try and turn them towards what sort of charging for but he's still got to be careful
Not easy to fight into them. The blink into the spear is going to be there, your turret is going to get set back into the rest of the team and taken out.
Chara Jr. gets the double kill and they're trying to chase up the moor in Yandex. Watson jumps in, deadshot comes through for the sack.
So that's Panto dead.
Very nice team plays from Yandex despite that very cute little save at the start with the drinking buddies.
It didn't matter on the spirit side. They still lose three heroes.
That's going to open up the space for Yandex to step into the pit.
This sort of the early to mid game macro plays are just a little bit tighter today from Yandex in comparison to what spirits bring it
That's very good. I don't feel I'm gonna try
What's it
Got it. You'll get the ages
What they could do it for round two?
I mean they just have to bail out Saxon cover the TP away. I mean it works out collapse comes charging in
gets the kill on Watson. They don't get the kill on Brose, that still goes the way of Yandex,
but he gets the Aegis. He kills off Chiridunian as well afterwards. I mean, you can't ask for much
more there from the primal. It collapse. I swear this guy steals more Aegis than anybody. This
is just insane. This was also, by the way, this was Rockthrow. He Rockthrowed. I think he hit
everyone with the Rock and then comes charging through with the Drinking Buddies bonus. Explosive
damage from I think they have 5,000 damage you did it oh now he's caught
I'm gonna call by the spear pretty tanky on the ground but they should be able to walk this one off
he's having to get out and turns around and throws a rock back and hits all three of them
I mean that's gonna inspire sort of ruin your Toro to get in and start looking for the kills
children is back in play they'll get some of the dream coil and Toro he's caught by the spear pushback
I mean it was a nice rock throw and sort of collapsed walking away being like guys
What are you doing? We need to get out of here.
But, you know, Yatora and Rui, they did not get the message.
They just charged straight in and ended up dying.
We'll see again the earlier fight before the Rosh.
Now, this is sort of the point where it's like,
okay, Yandex, they're really getting the ball rolling.
They win this team fight.
They get the three kills.
Of course, they had extra sort of twist to the tail
as the Roshan sort of situation played out afterwards.
Back in action, they nearly found Collaphtha,
but he's able to TP out.
Yeah, that was a bit of a rough move
from Yatora and Rui to go for that play.
They really didn't consider the fact that
Chera Junior was back in the game and he had the three-call ready.
We'll see this play once more around the road.
Kallatch is getting in there, destroying Watson,
setting up for the team to get in,
and being in place for him to get that Aegis still.
Stop Yandex from getting it.
So, you know, we had a bit of a slow start,
but it's all kicking off now between the two of them.
Yeah, I mean, Kallatch is doing his...
trying his hardest, doing his damndest in this game,
but obviously, Yutaro has no game now.
Yes, he's has OK Far, but he's bottom of the course,
and that's five deaths in a row.
And it actually looks like he's the one who's heart countered in comparison to maybe the earth
So where's that courage the purge did nothing to Watson?
Well on the foot side. Yeah, your toilet can't stick on these targets. They're too tanky
They have great ways to reset and then he's changed silence. There's a call is it's tough Tommy silence as well
It's gonna take some time as well cuz he wants to get the man to done before the BKB
But honestly, I haven't just the man sir
Like that that next up when that's done. I don't know if that's gonna be enough
Even though they do have these saves at this point playing into a team to take care ahead of you
It's it's gonna be a difficult game for your Torah to sort pick himself back up and not impossible one
You know we've seen him dirt before but it's gonna be quite the road ahead for it
Especially because the other thing is they don't have the aura is something we like to talk about to the primal beast doesn't build auras
They don't really have anybody who wants to build these or any means on the flip side
There's a chance so Malady's actually he actually has the crimson in 200 gold
So we're talking about damage issues and kiting issues for after your Torah throwing this Mac throwing this crimson
these extra elements started to make the game look a little difficult and quite
difficult for spirit in fact yeah I'm going to come up to close to a 10k lead
here 22 minutes in you know this is and this of course all just like that ages
still yeah I'm really able to make too much happen with that spirit off they
got tripped up by that puck respawned from Chiro Junior and punishing that
aggressive move that the third of the month where you're throwing a route and for
Morel this game too he's at a bit of a quiet one not dying a lot two one and one
He has the BKB now, but he doesn't have that ease of
Sometimes in a storm game where you have a ideal target that you want to just jump because if he jumps the Chen the Chen has tons of healing
So it could get a little bit problematic and then if the storm versus heals isn't always the best versus Muerta
If he gets the Oath off, he can probably just live so it's difficult chart targets that Morrell actually has to go for in this game
that's just noticed pretty much what both offline is having the bkb for the next fight
just one way creeps will give it to notice and collapse it also 100 gold away so we'll
see sort of the primal and mars turn up with their respective bkb's bkb's also online
for Watson on the ursa okay other thing also is uh for yandex they don't they don't have
many bkb piercing disables until way later right until the puck has you know
there's in particular 25 or whatever it is on spirit they will always have these
bkb piercing disables and control so can never really count them out depending
on how it goes they have the shadow demon purge they have the punch they have
the primal beast pulverized which also bypasses that status resistance they
have quite a bit of different tools in order to go through these bkb's depending
on initiation
And he gets it in terms of what he's up against as well because of the the draft
You know, it's nice for Chura Junior right that he's been able to get away with this aggressive build like this
I'll sneak into the pool for Arsenal this game
The jump on Noses will force the BKB out of him
He's not got any backup anywhere near so his spirit realized that they should be able to push for the kill
I mean they've been a bit careful about it
They're gonna try for the jump now for that he's in the hand of God will be popped it
trying to keep notice alive and won't keep him alive completely though. They pushed for the kill,
they'll get it, and he's definitely put it out of his spirit, but they were being kind of careful
about that because they were like, hang on, can we actually get away with that? But it was a good
sort of aggressive move, you know, they played safe, but then realized that there was no help coming
for notice. That's a pretty good kill, and it's a pretty big slip-up, I would say, from notice,
because now if they smoke, exactly, if they can find a second sequence of kills, it could be pretty
pretty massive for them. He was so keeping the river, Jira.
It's gonna jump in and aggressively here from Morale again.
Sam from the wall, once through.
Then he's straight over towards Saksa there, Morale popping the BKB,
not messing around as he wants to commit for the kill.
They give themselves another, so Spirit, starting to sort of
get the chance to take away little bits of that lead that Yandex had going.
Yandex are still down here on this bottom lane though.
So, Spirit, you'll see if they should try and push for more, they might get a bit of a nasty surprise there if they end up walking into this Ursa.
You'll see if they can get an opportunity to snipe someone, but the Puck in particular, very hard for Spirit to go for.
When they have Bruce Blink, they can go for the Puck, then they can do the, you know, Blink, Chainstun, plus Silence with the Kaz if they can actually find him.
find him so he's very close to having it so they can actually start to build
their kill threat onto that puck as well and this these kill these small little
sequence of the kills on they've really matter right killing noticed mid then
killing even socks about I'm sure you use BKB on storm but if it isn't punished
it's pretty massive it's gonna give time to this Kaz Yatoro to get that BKB that
we were mentioning you know he went greedy for Mantos again that got it
yeah got the ogre club he's catching up catching up really yeah if they're
able to stabilize again to the house to BKB you know that recovery will come out
from Yuzuru. They're absolutely getting that sort of window to progress with the Kez.
Then there's no BKB piercing disables on the side of, you know, Yandex and there's a lot
on the side of Spirit. It's going to be just the bash ready on Watson once he's out. How's
that one online? True, yeah. They're out. If they could get the setup, they can't quite. He's
out with the ball lightning. Morel's away. BKB was three seconds on cooldown when they initially
jumped in by the way so it would have been a pretty good thing if they had got that.
Yeah that's always a hard one to find by jumping the storm like that.
Oh so they bought him a gem as well too very early it's 26 minutes in so they're probably
feeling a bit of that map pressure so really trying to always have the initiation tools
themselves making sure they don't get jumped on first because of this. This is cool you don't
see it always picked up as often in 20 that's a 26 minute mark.
I'm looking forward to see this too. I saw Murrell queued up before and then he, you know,
wanted his items first, queued up the shard. I'm curious to see how potent this can be
with cats too, damage is just gonna burst out.
How close is that basher Watson, okay he's got it, I think that's what he was maybe waiting
for for them to make that next hit.
I mean, because now if they can get kind of the spear arena set up into the air, sir, they should be able to kill most of them.
Obviously the saves are still something you have to, you know, factor in.
But one lucky bash could just net you a kill or net you a stopping of a Tp or stopping of something, right?
So, yes. And obviously the Bloodsport facet aspect of the arena is going to give them a bit of a solution.
Grab, and Steve's notice, going to try for the setup. He's going to catch a Toro in here.
Vittoro, he got anyway out of this one.
That's a destruction will come out, and he's gone.
Now, they turn towards Rue, get themselves a second,
and see if they can maybe turn into Morris.
They'll chase down Panto.
Notice gets the angle to push him back with the spear,
and off to the side, Watson, he wants more.
He's actually able to get the jump point to collapse as well.
So whilst the rest of the team deal with Panto,
Watson makes sure he's got his sight set for collapse
and ensures that they don't just get the three kills,
they get the four kills, and the big one there at the end,
Putting an end to collapse his streak
That was so smart actually from Yandex they baited the hell out of him there
They just put him in a position on the park to the things that they can go on it
But everybody's there on Yandex and there's the beat not the lack of the BKB on the case does nothing
Jumps in gets caught inside the arena
100 to zero
Really good
There's no collapse alive to do any ages still so Yandex they could take this rush with a sigh of relief
this ages will be theirs what seems to claim it
Because expert has to be a bit kind of crazy and chaotic in this game in order to really fully reestablish things a
Set of that you know they can make a force to be KB out of the rail
Nice you've done there the spear into the calling has to be KB zip TP to get out of this
We'll see again here on the replay
And I notice it will get that bit
Honestly, it works out kind of nicely because it pushes the reps down and keeps only Yatoro.
I don't know if that was the intention, but it allows them to very safely take the Kes down
with too many saves or sort of interruptions coming into play.
And just the way they turned it into more. You know, you have the majority of the team chasing down Panto,
but he knows that collapse is off there over to the side, jumps over towards him, gets him with the bash,
and makes sure that this teamfight is a massive win for Yandex.
T-Fight is also, you know, a storm not even there, right?
Morell, I believe, was just grabbing a power rune, so he wasn't even involved in any of this, too.
The Yandex...
Looking very strong for spirit.
The game feels like it has to be like perfect execution, really, or just hope that collapse is able to get these big charts, too,
because I'm still just seeing some lack of damage. Even when Yatoro has BKB, just versus this Crimson versus the Potential Pipe that's gonna be coming out.
There's so many heals. End up grabbing all the Lotus's, though, and I do want to point that out.
I've been checking if they have greater healing lotus on the Mars. They have small lotuses all over the place. So these extra heals
It's very problematic when spirit is still lacking that damage
Back to 12k lead now for Yandex a very very nice team fight taken by them into the Roshan into the Tormentor
Really starting to bump up the advantage keep that pressure on
the game. It just doesn't get
to the point where your tour is
able to pop off. As you say,
you know, at this stage, the
BKB is going to come out. It's
not as fast as she tour would
have hoped for, but it's just
yeah, it's not going to be
enough. He needs to be KB and
then the butterfly to really
pose any sort of threat in
these team fights for now.
Agree and next they can deal
with them. Yeah, they're so
tanky and they even have great
tools to just not let him deal
damage. As we've seen the
little disables are just
them where to go into the
pierce the veil. You can't
really do anything to her. And
You can't really do anything to her and now speak to the Muerta
I always wait till they get the item
But this is a really good item in terms of playing versus saving heroes as well too when you get the agonims on the Muerta
The way that you use dead shot changes it
Oh, yeah, you can shoot it off of the front hero to the direction that the saving heroes are and you can just prevent any save so
I'm very happy to hit them massive timing right now
Spirit are they ready for this? I think in the moment the best thing they could do is sort of see the smoke and get out of there
smoke. It's gonna dispel now. Notice, do you want to go for the dive? He does. Yes, just to set up on
the wall's hands so we get the spear pushed back. I'll kill him off. Morrell has to put the BKB.
He's gonna try and turn and bite potentially. I don't know if they can do this though, Spirit.
I think they've got to back off. Now, they want to try and go for it. Collapsed,
he's even with the BKB. He's gonna try and make the jump on the wall's notice, but the BKB
comes up the notice. Byback will come in from outside, but the reader's down. They're called through.
The bash isn't coming in onto one tutorial. The tutorial will be able to jump up to the
high ground but they've got to go on full retreat airspirits. They could not fight into
Yandex right now and I think you know that they'll realize that after that jump in towards
them a team fight it just seems impossible for them to take. They do try for it there
you know Collap, he wants to commit, wants to get something started but as soon as they
try to get some action started I think they feel it. They're like well we can't actually
kill anyone on Yandex right now.
Oh and they did like no damage. You saw that I mean notice took some, popped the greater
They're healing low so immediately they have all the heals that come in from the chain.
That was crazy by Spirit actually walking in that high ground.
I think the Toro has to be pretty happy they didn't just die, honestly.
They lived with like 5% without popping BKB.
Yeah, it was very close to being that risky and now they've got that extra or online maladies
with the pipe done for the next fight, so.
Oh jeez.
How do they kill anyone?
They were sent to have to find sort of Yandex splitting up.
And Murrell's gonna try for the jump.
You play for your Toro and Murale is going to get hit by that dead shot call coming in with the wrap around them.
Collapse, Collapse, Collapse is super low, he's just dead.
They killed Collapse, so BKB comes out from your Toro with a bash and they're straight away from Watson.
They're falling apart.
I don't know if they can recover in this game, but three dead on Spirit, Yandex, the timings and just the overall macro plays from them this game.
Too much for Spirit to deal with, they sort of had a bit of a highlight play around that Rose steal from Collapse, but outside of that, Spirit, they're just getting outplayed.
Morel's having, he's not able to do much of anything. He's 2-1-3, he's not dying, but he's not able to jump in.
The heals, the sustain, the Yandex. This game is truly feeling impossible.
Yatoro just can't do damage, 2-7.
Rally to rally each other perfectly. Chirin now has, we saw the Aghanim's displayed right there.
Killing collapse. Great approach.
top ranks at least. Very likely could just stick around for more here Yandex. Not a lot
to be afraid of from Spirit side of things as we've seen. They've got everything still
up. The end of God is back up as well. Will they back up at least give them some respect?
It looks like they will for the moment. Just feel like they could have perhaps stayed lingering
around but we'll back up, pick up all those items that they got from their gold for agonims
now for the Ursa as well has ways to just play around any of the disables
even if they do catch him now. Yeah, just really good macro play for me
and Exoncly. He's last 10-15 minutes. And just really seeing sort of the draft
work out very nicely. You know the punk last pick as you know Trigini's
playing it perfectly only dies for once so they're getting to go for this full
aggressive play the blink into Parasma agonies was seeing the effect of that.
And I can only imagine you think after this game if in DG you know Spirit
you know, what's sort of going
to be the topic of conversation?
It's going to be, you know,
the Chen's got to go.
You know, what what are they
looking at about this game and
saying, you know, this in
particular just completely
destroyed what we wanted to do
in this game?
Honestly, yeah, the Chen and
the pocket two good ones.
The pocket may be less I owe,
but like the Chen has this
invisible factor that you
can't really ever like.
I mean, you can feel
absolutely in this game, but.
It could be one of those that
you just have to get rid of
because just a specialty hero
that.
You have to ban if the team is
just very good at playing
around it.
And so far as we see, you know,
the team is just very good
the team is just very good at playing around it and so far as we see yandex just fighting around the
channel is over and over again. VKB there from yatura, VKB in run, still a fair bit away from
having that butterfly further big lockdown coming out from yandex now that notist has the hex done.
Honestly this is bottom lane also it's not like you can really prepare to ban versus like a mars
or anything, but notice that Insox have played their skill shots beautifully in this game,
getting those extra kills in bottom and just their rotations, not really missing much at
all. And the arena has been, although it hasn't caught like a two man spear or anything, they've
been pretty perfect in terms of controlling the fight.
Spirit. Getting a little bit of breathing room. We'll see what they can try and gather
together to prepare for the inevitable high ground defense against Yandex. Can they find
some sort of way to piece together a team fight to get a kill because maybe if they can get like
that one kill they can try to start some snowball effect to the team fight but it's just seeming
so hard you know the five man of Yandex comes running at you it's just sort of very difficult
to envision anybody dying on Yandex right now with the way the last three team fights have gone.
The Yandex this game they made pretty few mistakes right like the last mistakes they
really made was noticed getting caught in the mid lane and then the sequence afterwards where
where they got the secondary kill, but before that, I don't even remember.
I guess there's the Roche that they gave off the steal, but that's not even really too much of a mistake.
That's just an opportunity.
No, this is now played from collapse. That's just collapse things here.
That's just collapse things. So yeah, honestly, Yannix, these last 15-16 minutes or so have been
pretty perfect, the way that they're rallied around playing with the Chen.
Smoke's out, here it's gonna try.
I'm gonna try for the jump, but he was ready with that. Now the counterplay comes in.
Notice it's gonna get caught by Vorty, but once it's in on top of the Storm Sky, it just takes out Morale through the bashes.
They'll now charge towards Yatoro. He's trying to go for Watson, but Watson can stand his ground.
Yatoro's BKB, search comes to an end. He'll try and focus on Gnosis, but Gnosis doesn't think he can be ready to go.
Arena spare, in onto Yatoro. He's caught. He'll be killed off.
Four dead on Spirit. No five backs on that. They're going to get the catch as well.
Hato Pato. Saksa finishes him off with a dead shot. Triple kill for him.
I think this game's over. It's definitely going to be time to start talking about Gainesur,
of your spirit right now as Yandex kind of just crushed them on another level this game.
Yeah, GG's going to be called Yandex coming in hot font.
Yeah, there's a couple of cute, like cool little cute moves right in particular, I mean
only really from collapse in this game it felt like for a spirit just quickly getting
overrun.
Yandex is really understanding their timings.
As soon as they got like the link on the battle period on Earth, so they got the grieves
and the link on the Mars, they just would go, go, go time.
from them in spirit. Team fights they were unable to really approach them you know morale unable to
really jump in pick a target because everybody's full HP it's just hard to choose targets.
Yeah Yandex really executing this draft. Absolutely yes spirit they just couldn't find the
couldn't find the damage to break through so the defenses of Yandex are very nice well-rounded
draft and fantastic moves from Yandex will get them the game one win here in this best of three
against spirit. One step in the right direction for Yandex that game looks fantastic and her
best of three. This is definitely the advantage you won. All three of you used both sides to each
draft, how both of them could garner success. But at the end of the day, not a lot coming from
the side of spirit. Not really able to make any sort of players themselves quit. Not really able
to find anything on the map, I'd say. Yeah, I think they woke up on the wrong side of the bed,
because it was very uninspiring from them. I feel like for the majority of this game,
they kind of just sat around and let it happen. Yennex, also we're not playing the fastest Dota,
but they did make some good moves.
There were some really nice individual plays from them.
I think Saac specifically has some great team fighting
and style casting in some of these moments,
but overall, Spirit, they kind of just twiddled their thumbs
and then slowly lost.
Yeah, it feels like Yannick just knew what they wanted to do
in the early game to break down the map.
Like, even here, Saac's seeing the Kens,
then getting the dead shot, layering it into the silence
to then have notice come into play.
You know, Yotaro ended this game two and eight, right?
Like, he just didn't have the character points
that you normally see from Yotaro,
and it always goes back to, like, earlier on,
even in the laning phase when they're just bringing this conga line of aggression through the twin gate
They throw down the arena new Toro, then they kill him with her and I was taking the tail on tower
It just felt like they knew what they had to do. He's going Vlad's vessel in the Kes, Battlefuhrer's on the Ursa
There's this his farm disparity between the two as for it just weren't ever able to just make moves. Other than collapse stealing agencies
That is just a staple. Yeah, a staple.
Apparently you can wake up on the wrong side of the bed and still get that if you're slapped.
I mean, it's incredible.
The guy is just the goat when it comes to being, I think, clutched.
He's like the offlaner that will deliver most often, especially in those moments.
But like Yannix, they're just looking good.
I think apart from maybe a two to four-minute time span
where they played a little too passive in my mind, they played very solid.
Like, they understood what they needed to do, what they had to wait for,
kind of like when to strike, when to bait people.
Because Spirit, I'm not really sure what it is.
Like, maybe when your Toro has an off-game, which doesn't happen that often,
Maybe there's just a voice missing, because he will usually take over the mid to late games.
But this Kez, I feel like, just maybe skip it for the next game.
Whereas if you're Yandex, I think they were very happy with a lot of trades in this draft,
closing the first phase with the Chen into the SD.
I think Watson is undefeated on this Ursa. His scoreline might be like 65 to like 40,
when it comes to the KDA. Like this guy is dropping like 13-0s, 15-0s.
He has like what, 10-1? Like you gotta respect this hero more.
Yeah, I mean, I think the serial it fits in very well the structure of that
There's a moment bottom when he goes through gate and they open up this bottom tower
Where I think this this is the type of move that Yandex likes they think they're a team that they're not trying to play super fast
They like specific timings that are very easy and simple and you can see it here, right?
They have arena up they go bottom he mentioned earlier
There's some nice fellow fasting and they just get some kill they get this SD kill as well
The bottom towers opened up like they're not trying to steam really right Yandex is not some hyper fast team
They're not going to win the game in 20 minutes.
Watson is going to get a kill, he's going to go forward to items,
and then he's going to use those items to go back and farm again.
It's a very back and forth, I think, for Yandex,
and they got to play that game this game.
But I think for your Spirit, you can't just let them do their solid game plan.
These are right. Watson will have 20 kills and 0 deaths.
That's the kind of carry play area he is.
I think my hesitation, I guess, for Spirit was,
as soon as they picked the Shadow Demon,
and here they hadn't really played so far in the tournament,
I was wondering, are they going to be too defensive with it?
And then you had concerns of the SD Kessling, Quinn,
And it's like Estee's enabling a kez, but they didn't work out
You don't have tusk and drinking buddies to amp up a private beast to try and play for farms
So both supports are trying to go hey my core are making you ready to fight and then of course they never fought
So there's no like plan B and then morale is on an island like as a storm going well
Estee you're sacrificing yourself touch your sacrifice in yourself
And I want to kill things with a storm for it and I can't so everything just kind of come crumbling down so quickly that like what?
20 minutes in 7k gold lead it kind of spirit kind of put themselves in a grave quite early in this game
Yeah, I will say I like what you mentioned before the series that there are better B.O.3 team
Which I agree with and I think it will be kind of put to the test like how much did they lose with like the roster changes of the year
Not having silent around now because yeah, and B.O. once they did struggle a lot
But this is like the type of team that you would expect them to make the right change throughout the series
Yeah, I mean I think honestly kudos to morale
He played the lane really well against the park
He was just straight up winning the lane and I don't think much of the fact that they didn't make any moves is on him that much
This matchup is one where you just sort of do your thing on storm and you need to chill there and hold the link
Is cup puck he pushes it keeps pushing it in and you can't really kill him
So to me I look at spirit sidelines and I'm like you need it to have plays on one of those either
Rue coming to the safe lane or Panto going to the off lane like I think to me this game morale did his job
I don't really think there's that much he could have done differently to sway this
I feel it's it's very much on the core players of spirit. They just they weren't doing anything
like it's a very good thing.
Once we saw the the ages steel
collapsed, it feels like that
then opens up a window for most
people. Once you get the ages,
it's like, okay, we can play a
little less reserve for
ourselves, but we're spirit too
far behind at that point to make
something of this and it just
felt like we're doing really
stalling the game out or was
there still an even amount that
they could have done? I think
they can and like the hard
place, and I will say that this
you need to be more aware of, you need to secure all the areas where this guy can come from
and sneak from his smoke blink, but later because I will have a graphic to show where
it will just kind of maybe make it more obvious why it was hard for Skirret to do a specific thing
because while they do get a really nice play here, Yannix get a lot of tools later on in this game
that just makes it a lot easier for them to fight and hold their areas. If you look here,
like again, it's maybe a little bit of a meme, but they've got the griefs crimson and at the
at the same time, if you're Yatoro,
you don't have to be KB yet.
So sure, you stopped them like a few minutes ago
in this play, but I think because Yatoro had an off-game
which we talked about, they are still not ready to fight
and even if they do, there is so much garbage
you have to fight into that,
I think it's honestly too hard.
This is also such a strength of support
that can farm the way that Chen does,
is you're the one that's buying what you guys,
again, you said it is me, right?
Because we bring it up every day.
It's too good, man.
Yeah, necessary items, whether it's a pipe,
and grieves, right? If your support's now buying these, you as a core, whether it's off lane or whatever, you don't have to worry about that.
That's so much more money that you get to have freedom with.
Yeah, I mean, I think it's also for these teams specifically, their off-laners are not big aura buyers.
I think they're both big, like, blink enjoyers, and so...
So they can age a steal.
Yeah, exactly. That's right.
And so whenever you have Chen on your team, like you said, it means that I think it fits them very well.
Like, whereas Spirit, I think historically this team really struggles in pipe and aura matters,
because Collapse doesn't like to buy these items. Spirit doesn't like to play with this.
They want to play off the scaling and the jump ability.
And so they don't have it on the 5, right? They don't have the Chen.
They have the Shatterdeme. They didn't really do anything.
And they've got a Blink Offline, which means if you're playing against the Pipe Greaves,
it's coming eventually and when it gets there, you can't fight anymore.
Yeah, like...
Nectar, sorry.
No, like, he... I mean, he could be playing Chen. I assume that's...
Yeah, I get that. Yeah.
But like, the thing is, like, you have this SD5 who's like kind of a bot in this game,
not necessarily his fault, but then you compare it to the Chen, who's a chat.
The hero has like one of the most stupid level 10 talents. You get 150 attack speed on some dumb tomato guy who runs down lanes
That's the reason why he has grease and crimson
Don't take shadow demon. What do you mean? Like I don't want to see the hero. I just
I don't mind it, but like I need a bit more
No, I've already said it. I'm gonna just you know keep saying it again
You know yandex. They're just super chilling like when you have Chen and Mars on your team
You don't want to have any early pressure against you. You want to be the ones kind of chilling doing your job in spirit
They just had a misery, you know, I think they had high expectations on their lanes going better
They thought you're thrilled have the deso earlier. He'd buy Zazz deso
You play that with a fling for private like in their hex
They were meant to be winning the lanes meant to be doing a bit more to explore the map lanes went badly everything falls apart
So don't do this D. Have a better lane. Okay. I need to clarify that when you think don't pick SD
You're just not really enjoying the hero
You're like don't run it five if you guys want to save it a little bit and put it in four
That's where it's better suited. I mean I've seen the way that spirits been playing at the moment
I don't think I want to see it at all. Okay in there like spirit. No one other teams
But it's like the thing is as well as for it's like if you see if you see two three heroes
Then you can maybe pick it if you see a reason but like the way that they've been drafting and winning games
I'm seeing aggression and moves that makes your Taurus build feel good
He's playing clink because he has people going in front like when you're playing SD
You're conceding lane in the 5 position and you're just going yay my team to do so I get some point like that's not how for it's winning
So again, I see very good hero the way spirit is playing doesn't feel like it should be a first priority for them
Yeah, I mean, I think it's also a really big deal. They have kill threat around mid like I think this team spirit historically
They really like being able to bring supports to the runes and fight you on the runes
I think with Laurel they really prioritize this and you've got storm versus puck
I think you want a different mid matchup next game not just because of the lane or the scaling
But because you can't kill the puck mid and I think they hate that dynamic when they can't interact at the mid hero
Because it it's just weird their supports tend to just hover around mid a lot while they have self-sufficient side lanes farming getting the solo
XP and so I think in a game like this they are uncomfortable and it's weird and it puts into that SD
You know point which is they don't have fours that enable the killing and their mid hero has a bad matchup
So this guy's just invulnerable and it's very weird for them
Yeah, and I think that Yankees just kind of did that very nicely because I think also like the 1670 pick
They went for like the Ursa Muerta together.
I feel like that covered really nicely
for what Spirit may have wanted on the 18 pick.
You know, like the more elusive Spirit
or maybe the Tide and the other heroes on the 18 slot.
So I think that honestly, Spirit,
they got in the draft and in the gameplay.
They had the one Roshan going for them,
but that's kind of about it.
Kind of a gift in everything that it sounds like there.
And whilst they might not be able to have quick changes
to have that playing,
something that is going to be able to be quickly changed.
That was a lot of variables.
Is that dropped, which is coming up just after this break?
We're continuing our best of three here between Spirit and Yandex.
Yandex taking game number one and my three analysts had a lot to say about Spirit's draft
and gameplay and execution and farming and...
Crosshair placement.
I don't think it's better than...
No hard resolutions, windowed mode, yeah.
Yeah, all things going wrong for them and something that was brought up before this
series was just how much has changed on the side of spirit whether that's been in their players
or their coach and now that they are moving into a best of three you have that time period to adjust
but i do wonder who is going to be that voice if they've maybe even lost that part of them as well
as to who is going to just be able to move on and look towards what is needed to change the game to
yeah it's one of those ones where we just won't have the answer because it is i can tell you who it
isn't. Who's? Marelli because he's just standing there. True. Okay, there we go. I mean he's
currently talking right now, but again it's one of those things where you really don't
know the conversations in between the team, right? Like who's the guy that tries to pick
up the spirits? Who's the guy that talks about you know the bad things? Again, obviously
it was silent back in the day, but now it's looking at cameras at least. I'm surprised
we're all speaking the most, but again this is just could be out of context. They might
talk about lunch, you know. He also maybe has been silent the whole other time and he goes,
I think I was fine, re-pick me Stone Spirit guys, let's run it back there and we're going to run
it back by getting to see a game two draft.
the game one win is it's still
going to be satisfactory for
them or is there also going to
be some change ups in what
they're bringing to a best of
three right now. What is not
being changed up at all is the
fact that a shadow theme, a
tree and protector Ajikiro is
banned. But now the Yandex
actually putting a little bit
of a stock in that shadow
demon. So I'm going to go
Actually putting a little bit of a stock in that Shadow Demon, they ban it out in the first phase.
Yeah, again, for the reason for the Shadow Demon ban, even though we didn't like it, Spirit being second pick, they'll respond with a different hero, pick one hero, C3, then you can maybe entertain it later down the line, so I get a bit more of an investment ban, and they always do respect the supports, but yeah, I think just because of the pick order, I don't mind it.
I wonder if they'll prioritize the Mars on first pick, they took it on 13 before, and
it's something that I feel like Spirit after that is like, okay, you won't with the Mars,
we won't with the Mars before, it's a collapse classic, are we gonna prioritize it?
So I could definitely see he picked in this first phase.
Wow.
This guy's good.
Oh yeah.
I think he looked, oh my god.
Mars!
I mean the one?
Wow.
I mean the one
Like no one no one actually can where's my yes, and yes, and you're super cool Quinn. Thank you
I don't know about that one. We'll talk about that later. That's aura. All facts no printer it up
I will say you're gonna scream every here. No, no, he will not do that do it
Underlord!
That's not bad.
This was like a series that's, you know, playing for mortar.
Oof. Oof.
Oof.
You say it now, Kazoo.
What, Underlord?
Oof. Oof.
Thank you. There you go.
That sounded more like a whiff.
Oof.
There's no W there.
That's what he does in private.
That's it. O-F.
Keep that in private.
O-F.
Yeah, that's what you want.
Cause you're the only one that gets it.
How do you guys like the exchange of a Mars for Underlord?
Underlord for Mars type vibe?
I think Spirit, you could argue, is quite happy.
Mars, again, historically, is always the initiating hero that doesn't do damage and need other heroes to shine.
Underlord counterplays that beautifully because you just TP in, you pressure double aura.
You also feel like you can farm slightly quicker than a Mars.
So I think, yeah, on paper, Underlord feels better.
The difference is just the speed of map play.
Of course, Underlord is kind of waiting for a fight to happen, locked into his ultimate cooldown.
And whilst he can play on blink you'll shard. He doesn't always need these specific timings to feel good
Again, he just needs teammates to help him. I feel lied to Quinn. You said that collapse doesn't play the ors
Generally, I think he can I would say like on some maybe right and I think on the Lord
It's like the most easy bot that will do it because the things you don't really need other items to like do something
Cuz like your innate kid just allows you to free farm and be the fat guy anyway. Oh
Well, actually no Quinn is right
I'm right. Yeah collapse doesn't play auras because the last time we played under lord the game ended in 15 minutes and collapse ended with
Nothing only a cloak and a headdress. He didn't even get the aura. That's right. He isn't actually in or a blade
It was a game like a gigastomp. Yeah, it was the mouse. Yeah 19 and one lost to now
So yeah again couldn't technically correct. I'm actually actually dark willow. I just forgot to announce it
It's got a trip it in
How could your bosses?
Oh, his versus is good. I've heard that before.
That's good.
The boss shut out.
You try to hang on here.
We're trying to hype each other up over here.
For anyone who can't see us on camera, by the way, it is me sitting on the opposite end of the platform
and then the three boys sitting next to each other.
Check this out.
My little pig.
Alright, there's a...
Do you want to do it?
It's fine, I'm done.
You tried. You're going to give up.
I'm done. I'm done.
Alright, either way, Yanets, they do go back for the Masked Chen.
And Chen will be the aura buying hero, so there will be the match of itemization between both the lineup so far.
I do like that, that they don't make there a mismatch where Spirit has it, and yeah, next ult.
And Chen just pairs very well with Mars in general, keeping everybody in the cage, so Chen actually can do damage with you, but this is just right.
I like it for the fact that Ancient Apparition, it's a somewhat weak laner, you need a hero that can do the work for you, they're fixing the decay between carry and mid lane, and then you already have enough setup that if you do find the clink or hero, they are going to be locked down and they are going to die to the combination.
It's not like one of the exposed AAs that we saw I think from Reconyx where they drafted it and they felt kind of empty
This is like an ancient operation pick where don't allow clings to be elusive playing with despatch to do a switch shenanigans
Like you will get blasted and think about your positioning. You might have to just disengage
I mean I really like the combo of the two subs with the DK and I think also like because you understand that
Shen wants to like buff up the guy and then heal you up with the mech hand of God
So I think AA it is a very
volatile hero in terms of making it work but this is a slot like picking it later
in the game like this I'm quite a big fan of what Spirit are doing.
And you might need to buy Go Scepter in this game. If you ever get caught by
Klinkz of course you are just gonna pop, disappear you know farewell so
positioning in the good century placement might be important for Panto.
Unless he wants to feed then he will do any of that. There are some records to be
broken still at this length that is true. We saw Klinkz a couple times yesterday
And neither of them came to the fruition of the ideas around picking him
It doesn't fit a bit better this time around or you still worry that those
25 minutes of the game can just unravel whatever else you need in the later pot. I
Think it's a bit of a weird clink stick. Yeah, I picked it just seeing willow underlord
I don't think it's particularly good against either of those heroes really. Yeah
I
Definitely thinks I get the same time a is good against Chen
But I wouldn't say it's particularly good against Mars or clinks. It is good with dragon. It's I think I like I think this ideology
Spirit's draft fits them much more in that they felt like last game. Okay, we couldn't kill people
They were too tanky with your pipe in the ores this game. We're gonna make sure we can kill them
Right. It's a I think it's a good realization of what the problems were last game. Okay, we're gonna make sure that's not the problems this game
So I do like that adjustment at the same time. I don't necessarily think
like, AA and like, there's pros and cons to it, right?
We already mentioned that Clink's being able to insta-kill them.
The core matchups are not that good.
So it is AA in response to Chen.
It's, there's some dynamics there.
You also now have the puck where, of course,
there's a decay with the Dragon Tail,
but you're always going to be finding the back line,
looking at their positioning.
If you are comboed, then you're going to hope that the Chen
or the mask comes in to save the puck, enable the Clink.
Like, the Andex, they also have plenty of ways
to try and kind of disrupt spirits.
new plan for game two.
And with that being said, like spirits supports now,
once again, we're in a situation where you probably,
you just don't do anything to puck, right?
These two heroes, you're probably not coming mid very much.
And I can't envision Willow Underlord doing well
in lane against Chen Klinks.
That sounds pretty bad.
So with that being the case, Yannix can push the tempo some.
They could potentially make a little more moves
and speed up the tempo.
If they don't do that though,
which you saw last game, right?
It was a pretty slow early game.
If we get another slow early game like that, then I think Spirit has much better odds
because I think once you get to that mid game period, Puck is very bad against Underlord
and these supports, once they get to these glimmers and the survivability tools,
because you will just won't be able to kill them and at some point, you will get stunned by Dragon A and straight up insta-kill.
Yeah, like this is the way I envisioned the bottom lane to go, like I would like Yandex to...
I mean, the traditional Saxa heroes, like it could be Tusk for instance, I would like them to look to play on this Chen-Kling's lane.
I think you're not gonna get super much done on like the off-lane if it's Mars.
mid like puck versus DK I think as long as you stall the tower you're pretty fine
but I think this around spirit has like a way by the match of like being able to
jump they have damage mitigation they also have the last pick available like
if Yandex go for like this tusk type hero I do think their damage is not really
high like you have Chen tusk they don't do that much Mars is like follow up with
a kind of once more follow up clings puck you know they're a bit volatile so let's
Let's see.
Okay.
Windranger will help you a lot when it comes to obviously the laning, and the follow-up
damage, but I think Spirit also have options.
Like your DK can go mid, you can pick a Sven, you can pick whatever else lings well with
AA and I think your draft is very solid.
Yeah.
But Mero is just not a houseguard player.
He's only played it once in his career back in 2023, but like picking a houseguard to
break the park to open up the game could have been an option, but yeah.
Not really the hero that he likes to play.
Yeah.
Two minutes of reserve time as well.
Left to Spirit.
Holy base.
Okay
We're gonna be here a little bit
No, but I mean you're you're right about Morrell. He's not like I played against the guy in pubs
He's not like some lane stomper player. He doesn't play like the super miserable stuff. Oh, he's necrophos Oscar
That's not him, right? He's spirit player. He's lane drawer play from making that's generally his style
And so I think here. I mean, I think it's a decent chance. They just put the DK mid
If they pick something new that's also fine. Like I think DK has pretty good matchups against both Mars and Clink's
They played it, I think, was it against Tundra? He played the dragon at carry.
Yeah, I think this makes the most sense, just because DK mid is fine. It's a good lane with AA.
And I think when you play against some of... like Warcry is giga good in this game.
You're also going to have like an early pipe probably anyway from collapse.
You get the secondary guy that Park has to like be careful about in the midgame,
and you slaughter these guys if you jump in.
Like Sven doesn't just have a good jump, I think once he's in there isn't that much that stops him from continuing to like, you know, he has his ult running, warcry BKB, none of these heroes will stop him from just going hamp squeezy in the fight.
The thing with Spirit Sign Up, and I think we saw Tundra actually lose with this as well, right, it's the idea that if you do miss initiate against the clinks and then the heroes that Yandex have, you just play on the BKB when it expires, then Yandex would kind of naturally win the fight.
So if a Spirit is about the execution of getting the gold strength, you know, big right-click, BKB, utilizing the Ice Blast,
and yeah, that's kind of, they need to try and play around that, they need to kind of type the initiation and then look to kill them that they're kind of the exit of the fight.
Yeah, I mean, I think Yandex, they can play fast this game and they can snowball, but if it's a slow, stagnant game like I saw last game, I think Spirit have the advantage.
I think they prefer the slower tempo, I think they have more tools. And I think this double range core is a bit odd for Yandex.
and we're going to a game three.
There's a free game for someone.
Spirit just made really good adjustments, right?
We said they are the adjustment team.
Even with all the changes, they're still able to do it
because game one to game two, it is a very different team.
I like it. It's just that straightforward.
They're a team that can adjust.
They've made those adjustments.
Yatoru set up for what was it? 12 and 0?
12-0.
12-0 game.
Holtekesu 2, he believes is going to be a game three,
but let's see exactly how game two between Spirit
exactly how Game 2 between Spirit and Yandex plays out.
Andex is actually going to be able to give them quite a tough task once again here in this game, too
I like the the tanky bruisers versus the clinks
It seemed to work for a lot of teams war cry in particular too is just it seems like it's a really good
Just right on paper you war cry you have a decay and an underlord running down the clinks
These fights are gonna have to be pretty specific how Yandex wants to take them unless they get out of the lanes with a big advantage
So yeah, this should be pretty interesting game. I'm also gonna have to say I'm much happier seeing you Toro planks
I don't know. I don't know if it's just that the Kenzo didn't fit him as well. Maybe with the team
It looked a bit uncomfortable. So I'm much happier seeing him playing Sven
Yeah, this is a classic here for your Torah and she's a great game for in terms of defensive capabilities now much
Raw beefy-ness you're gonna have and just in terms of what they're gonna be able to do
To sort of set up fight spring to pop off right they got great newt and control between the willow between the underlord
And they've got that burst right? You know any stays the game a
A Sven stun into an Ice Blast, it's gonna hurt!
Yeah, people will very likely die unless they have some way to disjoint either some
Jules or any type of little Force Staff or something to disjoint from the AA Blast, we'll
have to see.
Cause the other thing too we don't have to talk about is that Yandex did get three out
of the five from the last one, so three of their most comfortable heroes I would say.
So it still is a very very strong draft for them, it's just, if Spirit can sit back and
get these items for these tanky cores, he can definitely perhaps see some damage issues
that could be there for Yandex.
We'll say because overall yeah next they could look quite a bit better in that last game
No, it is but it and those two heroes we were talking about you know the fact that those two in particular getting getting through again
Right, there's the Chen there's the park both of them had massive impact in game one
Can you kind of see why spirits said you know what we are gonna let them up those heroes again?
Like when you see what spirits brought this game, or do you think that could be a decision that might come back to bite them?
I think it could back to by the be through my goodness was dying for the chin
I think it could come back to bite them for sure
I also think like this lane top looks super hard for them this under lord plus willo versus Chen clinks
That they're just gonna be able to poke them constantly and it's very hard for you to really counteract it sometimes you can versus Chen with some lineups
But with this lane in particular
Definitely difficult want to see what rule can do if you can work some magic playing around the extra regen with the tango with the shadow realm
But I
Don't know how much they can put pressure on the Watson here
I mean it comes to sort of ways to deal with the puck, you know, last game we obviously saw they could really do much to throw
Tiro Junio off his game
And he was able to go for this blink, Parasma, Axe build, and he absolutely popped off on it.
This time round, do you think he's gonna be forced to sort of have to pick that extra sort of defensive
I am on the build up with the way that Spirit's dressed to puck, getting into the game again?
I don't know if you will. I think you'll still just do the witch play build, right?
But I think it should be quite a bit harder versus the DK just on paper, right?
You're likely if you get caught by a stun if the willow fear follow-up or any other follow-up the stable comes out you have damage
But you're about to say this is his best year off for me. I know some of the heroes I watch him play on he's
Very volatile on fucking by Martin
I'm gonna go for sacks of cold feet
kick in but
And what they do have that very nice sort of setup in cold feet both of these heroes, right?
Halfways, you know, especially if it's sort of shackle get skilled early on, you know, to at least save one another
Even if they can get that connection with the cold feet
It doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna get easy kills down here on the save line spirit
No, I mean a I feel we say it so much this hero is incredibly weak and lean
Even if you have a way to use cold feet which makes it honestly 10 times stronger in the lane
He's out of mana when he has to use cold feet like look yet Panto is literally womb
So the next time they go for an aggressive play it's very likely they end that shoot unless they're very low health
They're just going to survive again.
I mean, we're really synodied, as you said.
This top lane does not look fun to play for Spirit.
No.
Perhaps.
He's got 10 CS.
Watson, he's got 18 and 6.
It's a lane where this clink is completely free farming.
And Spirit, I think that, by the looks of it,
they have to go through quite a fair bit of regen.
Both of them have to bring selves out for themselves.
It's not an easy lane to survive through.
No, and it's a pain to lane versus this stupid Hellbear too.
I play versus this so much, because you're like,
Oh, it's kind of weak I can kill it
But if you kill it near the carry the carry gets like a hundred and fifty or whatever the hell attack speed it is and just kills your off later
Yeah, and that's the combo with the boost from the pen penitence means that you're in trouble and they're collapse
He is in trouble. He's got a fairy fire, but that's not gonna save him
That's just first blood here for the safe lane duo of yandex and I
Don't see this
Sort of top lane changing sort of the outcome anytime soon
This looks to be Watson very much set up for success here on the clinkton the safe lane and a big part of it
It's could they get that chin in the draft again
Malady he was so far in last game the items were flying out for him. They get the sort of
Yeah, that's gonna start him on that sort of same path once more in game two. So if they can try and kill him off
They've caught him in the route
But it's not enough control. He's perfectly fine
very very difficult off-lane here for for spirit to try and
and just utilize to punish this safe lane of Yandex.
Chira, we'll get a courier tonight.
Nice little play there,
using the waiting riff on to the high ground
to get the second hit.
And overall, Murrell, 26-6,
but Chira is handling it, 22-2.
There's those extra denies,
but not too shabby by any means.
He's getting some ruins as well.
Not going very nicely from Chira, Junior.
You're considering, as you say, that matchup.
We've definitely seen outcomes of this DK,
poke where the denies would be even higher than this situation, so making the best of
us can be a bit of a tough time there and that won't be one.
He's poking a problem keeping around that half HP too, so if there is, I mean there
are heroes that are actually not really the best of rotating around even when the six
hits.
If with double supports perhaps, but with one support it's pretty lackluster with the
coil.
He keeps Morale low HP, but there actually could maybe be an opportunity where he gets
the coil and if there's a power shot kill shot if he keeps him that low there's
there is a chance maybe to go for the bottom leg you thought it's just got to
be out of lane right he's not got any regen outside of a ferre fire so he's
got to sort of hit some of the the jungle camps make his way back to base to
refuel so to be absolute freedom for notice here down on the bottom lane
see if it focused towards the mid lane with the six minute power in and it's
gonna end up being top so rude and why do you force to pick this up your melody
coming in, so Rui's gonna have to grab that, he's at the mid, gonna be getting their hands
on that one.
Look at the dragon so long, he's in the middle, he's gotta be a bit careful with the potential
burst that Yandex can throw out.
Yeah, I'm glad he has a raindrop, that's the first thing I checked for on the DK, have
to be able to share to have that, a little bit of extra HP versus the first that can
come out.
They're really trying to put emphasis with this catapult here with the six timing with
the two supports.
Malavi here to help out on the defense though, means that-
no damage. Yeah, pretty much, barely a scratch done to the tier one tower here around that
dragon form with the way that Yandex, they're able to push back spirit when they try and
group up for these moves early. Really smart stuff, honestly, because at the same time that
it was all happening, right, they sent Yatoro back to base. So Sokso was like, okay, I don't
have to be bottom. Notice he's getting full XP. He's getting full free form. I can just
walk him out and be able to contest that attempted aggression. It's in the just in the laning
face to 2k meter. That's pretty substantial because this bottom area of the map is going
to get very scary right but the fact that I've noticed that freedom to get this wave
once he has the six online you know plus one down on the bottom lane could threaten even
the Sven very early on. Absolutely. I mean these supports they're probably two of the
most fragile supports that you can pick on the Sun in terms of spirit. AA and Willow
die to just yeah just spells they hit them by accident yeah I mean because it's a complete
sort of switch upright as opposed to what they were bringing in game one right spirit having
two of the more defensive supports this time going for the much more aggressive option on both sides
stun won't get into range oh yeah actually has the water bubble sorry I still confused which one
switch the chen creeps I literally can't tell which one's the one that's between all these like the
Marshmages and the yeah, I've just had a good start going here for the team
It is nice though. I mean these stacks gonna be very necessary for your Toro, especially with the way that these lanes have already gone down
So it's just coming across just sort of mess around with your Toro
Don't get the shackle into the partial on the block grenade
That's gonna set up potentially to close the gap here. Looks like she doesn't want to.
Shiro Junio wasn't confident on going all the way there for the Dreamcoyle.
Possibly to have a little bit too close to tier 2.
Almost certainly expecting mass TPs to be coming in from the Spirit, which wasn't the case.
No Spirit actually focused on just using this opening on the mid to get some damage done.
Now the Decepticum round off the Elder Dragon form.
This time round we'll be able to get the Tier 1 Affair bit of a beat.
Dreamcoyle's gonna be popped down.
So if they can punish it for their TPs coming in there, they certainly can.
So arenas there so what a fair bit of damage might have been done to the tier one this time round
They've got that set up dream coil TP into an arena
If you want to come hit the tier ones, they will be able to punish you when they're ults are up
Especially in this game where they have no saves right in the last game if they do something that there's the potential
Disruption or toss can maybe save something but if you're on that high ground a coil in a spear
I'm really smart from notice them to point out also from notice this game
He's not playing versus saves you know victory feast so you can actually play
absolutely aggressive in terms of what he can do yeah and a smart switch up there from him on the facets
It's you know this game. It's looking like it rough within game one like nine minutes. Yeah, it's a 3k lead for yandex
Spirit they're having a tough time today
Having a rough time in a rough start versus a lineup that is very strong if they can get these timings around the chen again
who this channeling Malady are already approaching some core networks and he's level six so it's
very early that he's been able to find this they do have those stacks as you were mentioning on
spirit to be able to catch back up on but yeah this is a really really really good start
when it comes to spirit's lineup you know coming into this game once the draft was done
do you think like is it expected that the lanes would be this tough or is this a lot more worse
than you could imagine Spirit was sort of preparing themselves for the outcome of the lanes to be.
I kind of feel it would be rough, but not this, because it's an AA in one lane and then it's
an underlord versus double range in the other. So it was kind of designed to be difficult,
but perhaps I don't think this is difficult.
Yeah, round the mid. And then for the Dreamclaw, they up towards the tier two.
Trying to have for Saks, I mean, Rue's already dead. Hanukkah comes out. We'll see Yutora coming
him from the side, but his god strings on cooldown, of course, have to use it to farm
right now, so he's not really going to have any interest in getting stuffed into the fight.
I mean, they're getting away with a lot, Yandex. The fact that they can just sort of walk up
10 minutes in, casually go for these sort of kills on the supports with dreamcalls around
the tier 2s, and nothing's to be done from Spirit. It's starting to look worrying for
Spirit.
It's looking very worrying. The supports are also completely, not completely, but quite
Corp reliance I would say will own a a aren't really these heroes that can make moves as much alone will oh slightly
But they completely rely on levels and having their course having a good time and right outs
I mean morale is kind of the only one we're seeing the underlords start to catch up
But they need the blink and they need the a a 6 before they really can kind of break this mold that we do see yandex
Just following they're about to have mech finished up on malady
I'm gonna start messing around with spirit around them whether or not they're actually
strong enough to get in and test the ancient stat it's probably not at this point they
do have dream core backup if they want to try but the ancients they're gonna get cleared
up so spirit will at least be able to protect and clean up the ancient stat before yandex
head in. Yandex might still want to go for a kill. If you go for the side, just
hauling back on the Hellbear, smash it over the dragon, and it's out. So, spirit
a little bit of something there. Getting to clear their ancient stack before
Yandex sort of pushed in to check out the situation. But they do have to farm it
with, you know, these four heroes, not with the Sven, who maybe, you know, with
the Toro being slowed down, probably wanted those, but not the worst.
He's just having to walk up from the high ground, get the arena opening on towards
Morrell. Morrell's getting burst slow. He's got a pretty beefiest Dragonknife with a Dreamclaw still ready to offer up.
They can take him out. No chance of anybody turning up to help him out.
It's a fight they lead now and that also came at a time when so the blink was picked up on the DK.
So that's the whole blink smoke up reveal. It's gonna really be hard to make a move with.
Especially if they have just hit the six on the AA so they do have that ice blast follow-up.
Smoke is now picked up. It does feel though, despite the fact that 6k down, they kind of are having, you know, they have to try for something with this Blink Dragon Tail Ice Blast, because if they don't do something now, I don't know when they're going to get the opening to do so.
I think you have to kill Wattson. He has a Desol already.
He's set up, he should be dead here, Ice Blast coming in, there they go, they get the jump
stun as well, towards Malatee, they can turn into a Tchenkyla as well, Dragon forms up,
Spirit finding exactly what they need, it's the beginning of something, but a very very
big something there, killing the clink, so they can put the pressure onto tier one, they
needed that, without that this game is going to rapidly fall out of control.
Need to get the ball rolling, need to slow down the clink, honestly I was looking at him
like my god Watson has Deso before the AA was 6.
That's like, you're, you're, how do you play AA?
You're showing them happy for a heart's,
like a quick second you're just dead, so.
At least they do now have that blast
so you can play in a more defensive position on the AA
and just play completely religious around the blast
if they can find the catches with the DK.
Looking at the way the Yandex is playing Soxa,
I don't see many people doing this anymore,
so I do like to talk about it.
Blocking camps.
I think Soxa and Tim's are the two
that I'm seeing doing the most
when they do get an advantage in terms of early game,
Even though there's 500 camps, he's now blocked one, two, three.
And I think he had blocked two more before that.
So I believe he had blocked at least three to five camps awards.
Very smart to prevent, you know, spend one of the fastest junglers
if he's given the opportunity to get the stacks and all that.
That's kind of really slowed down the momentum and growth there for Yatoro.
Well, Watson has everything.
He has every single creep camp, besides the one that his tent is taking.
He's fine with that.
Pipe is finished.
Pretty solid timing at least on that.
It's going to reduce a fair bit of the damage here, not the clinks, but the puck and the
Mars could turn some of these fights if they don't have the full numbers there on the side
of Yandex and the Underlord comes in.
He's been on a very defensive posture though. Just looking to farm and recover
DK form is up they have visit on the high ground trying to catch this puck does have a shield run
The last jump was very good on towards Watson. See what they can find this time
That's it. We'll be the ones to walk into the smoke
Nothing crazy
Yeah, it's one of those situations where Watson is going to be very happy on the other side of the map, so I don't have to worry about that smoke coming from me.
play?
Where else is going to go Orcid?
So that's the route since they don't have the, perhaps the greatest follow up versus
the puck.
Sometimes he'll be a bit of a risky one.
We always talk about the Orcids.
If you don't have a good window, you know, don't open up the map with it, can start to
fall off pretty hard because they can itemize versus it or, yeah, the laser DKB for a very
long time.
They're going to go for the Smite and Seljandex and they're still very strong, especially when
Watson's ready to fight.
Doesn't quite have the shard out, but of course, yeah, just with the DeSa and the right-clicks
alone should easily be able to kill whoever they catch in the arena.
Meryl wouldn't be a bad target at all.
You can get the jump on the pancake.
You're standing on creeps.
I don't know, he's here. Rue also been spotted out.
If this gives the room for Meryl to get out, it does not.
Notice gets the angle, lays down the arena, has to spearlock down the court for Meryl.
Very nice move there to sort of just get around Rue,
because you can tell Rue was very much in position to potentially stop that sort of smoke move happening.
The problem was, despite the fact that he was there to sort of catch the initial move,
He's not there to stop notice you know notice going already for that wrap round knowing that there was going to be still that DK that bigger
Target a little bit rush left. I think so
Yep
This was so for for spirit whenever morale shows on the map like that
It's kind of giving a insane amount of information at the end because he's the blink playmaker
And if he's showing that kind of says we're not going to be looking to make plays and if they just gave him
unless they're all sitting behind and prepare up or anything, very good move.
Did he get the jumps done here? Into the fair. Nice catch.
As soon as he's back on the map, will manage to punish Chirra Jr. out in the mid.
They actually play safe. Some pings were coming out around the rush, but they do opt to not go for it.
Especially now that they're without pot, they won't try for anything crazy.
They are going to have to let the tier 1 tower go in the mid, so spirit will manage to get an objective off the back of that pot kill.
good momentum game and also that's half of the dragon for him
he's got his eyes on Yotaro we might be able to mess with the TP on actually
yeah I did that vision with the nighttime so by the time he saw him it was a
little too late to cancel the TP with the spear so Yotaro getting out just in
time there because they might have been able to set something up there if they
did get that catch very smart see Yotaro drawing the lines perhaps some
frustration he I think he's telling his team guys a lot of these camps are
blocked. I'm limited on my space to build a fine farm. He is recovering though. Still
bottom of the course. If we're seeing them all, at least hit that 8k mark.
Yeah, they'll be careful up here as well. Because Janbech would bring the numbers in,
but Scam was thrown out on the Twin Gate, so Spirit know that a move is coming in from this angle.
They're getting time to catch up for sure. The orchid soon finished for Morale. The span
almost having blink, and then your Toro can perhaps get involved. Then they have the follow-up
chain stun with that DK and there's
definitely some fragile heroes as we
can see for the side of the index
yesterday of the heels that can come
up from the channel perhaps them you
know mech and pipe when he gets it but
if they do get caught from the initial
stuns I mean someone's gonna die to
a blast
well it's my time it's gonna get the
spelled here by Malibu being around
the rail he'll settle for it in with a
and the old kid follow up.
Nice kill.
Much more confident this game.
I can see Enmorel on the DK than on the storm.
He was a bit hesitant to make any aggressive moves on that storm in the last game.
That was a difficult early game for Spirit.
But without a doubt, they've managed to find the sort of fucking now around the pace they can play.
around this DK
They're slowing down the lead of yandex yandex was course still at the moment with that advantage of how much Watson's got
3k leaders a team
Yandex are looking for some type of pickoff before rush rush
She's pretty far up in the mid. Oh, it's a bit spookier
Hey, he's gonna get the silence off
I mean that was honestly he's kind of lucky to get out of that one there morale. Yeah, it was that dangerous area
you know pushing out on that mid wave but he will get away with it notice just a
little hesitant on dropping the arena first in case of some type of like
blinker or anything else looking to set up though for the tormentor but spirit
they've got the blink on the Sven he can start turning up as we were mentioning
let's see if they want to be combos this could be a pretty explosive fight
spirit get a good jump here they could absolutely wipe away that lead that
Yandex has had against them especially if they get eyes on Watson to start the
fight. Yeah. See your head's in first. I mean the hesitation from Yandex definitely does
indicate that they're aware that this sort of position could be in play from spirit.
Creeps are swinging in the power shots to scout. Smoke. Only quarter remaining. I love
the focus is going to be down on some notes just getting a bigger arena here. He does
have shard too so can't get the potential double spear. They get that into the burning
garage clink it's gonna be a pretty deadly start to the fight. Looks like they're ditching
the smokes ending and the chen creeps are actually putting a big push down bottom so
they want to respond to it. Continue to scout. I mean honestly yeah just the strat of micro
just the fact that malage was also what sending creeps into that tormentor area it just meant
that you know spirit they weren't going to be able to do anything you know catch them
by surprise so they're having to completely leave that play behind because of the fact
that there's a Chen in the game and Malady pretty darn good on this hero.
Yeah, Power of Chen even clinks, right?
Just information gatherer as well for Spirit, I don't really have a hero that can, information
gatherer, it's ice vortex I guess in a way, at least early game, which means that, no
matter, we'll go to these three.
I'm just going to take a moment to talk to them about it.
The mech here will keep him fine.
I say he'll keep him fine.
I'm the hand of God.
He's going to be okay, but he's okay.
But they really did need to pump out those heels for him.
They would get the shard, and they are quite fortunate that there was not an ice blast at the ready to throw over in their direction.
Yeah, truly.
Yep, win ranger.
But Sexa lifts thanks to the team and gets himself the Gale Force.
Good one honestly pre BKB is it's a pretty annoying spell to deal with sometimes like a span or anything
It's his honesty trips you up
It's got him not and not ever actually get out afterwards was it with the blink on cooldown or you just sort of messed it up
He's just got clipped in it
Maybe not facing the right direction for the blink. That's yeah, yeah
I thought you'd get the blink off of the face, but he did not so he is dead
big that works out there for your Torah and I mean these sort of kill
involvement so they're gonna really accelerate that BKB and then she said
what was the BKB's online? Jorza and BKB and walk around the middle of the fight
they're not gonna burst this Sven they're not gonna get anywhere close to
being to burst this Sven right this Sven is going to get to do a whole lot more
than Jorza was able to do on the KS last game in this team fights. Yeah I would say for
Yandex it's either you immediately get the stun on the Sven it burst him
Instantly or you kite the BKB and then you play that you usually play versus this fan
Which they do have good kite options, but it's all is getting big that kill definitely matters being able to find that one
On the puck and he did find the dream neutral item to we should always mention
Resiprosity we actually saw it come into play right there. He did triple hit the puck
shift
That cheer up he is going a bit of a defensive route right the Lincoln's is just super valuable this game versus the second DK
I have to say, for a spirit, I'm impressed that their supports have not gotten picked off at all, because this Clink's got a deso 12 minutes ago or whatever it was, and the fact that neither of them have really died at all is impressive.
It kind of says a lot in terms of state of the game, that they're able to keep themselves protected and not just hemorrhage and feed these kills.
Pantheon almost has Blink Dagger in fact too to be able to get like follow-up ice blasts rather than going for the Ghost Scepter defensive route that you do see sometimes.
And also just sort of having the fact that they are going to have that build up of Auras as well in response to the Auras coming out from Yandex, it's going to feel a lot nicer.
I do feel we see a lot of gains to the moment where if you don't have that hero
That's ready to sort of pick up the pipes and the crimson's and the skirmishes. You really feel the lack
It feels like almost every game requires it
It's kind of in a I don't know maybe forever for Dota, but anytime any of these or is even get a slight off. It's like oh
Jack them up even more
In terms of how strong they are big hit BKB timings are about to hit on spirit. They're about to have
Double BKB timings with their auras
They're going to be very strong to go for these fights on the side of the index
They're also going to be strong to fight but a little bit different how they have to approach them because the clink says the agonies build
This has to be in a very defensive posture versus these tanky cores that can close the gap
Overall that lead it you know it to go back to it Ken
It really is the fact that there's this Chen in this game, right?
It's just getting massively farmed on.
Like that sort of distance between him and the other supports in the game
is a large part of the overall network lead that Yandex do have.
But that's why I would say that a hero like Sven, I'm pretty okay with it,
but Chen's big because you can just completely clear out
and your damage is so overwhelming that sometimes these little Chen orers
don't matter as much as some other heroes because you just hit that hard.
This data game for you is pretty interesting, honestly.
Even though it's a fight, it is not pretty even.
Toro is going to get the jump on Malady.
Ice blast coming in.
It's going to be Malady gone.
Elapsed.
He's set up for something more.
I don't know how to get him with the jump stun.
Noticed there to help out.
I mean, Toro was ready for it.
He blinked forward to the side of that tier 2 to see if he could get in onto the
Saks of Women's as well.
They want to cover the smoke up and strike back.
catch spirit by surprise, whilst Yandex don't have the gen, you know this might not be a
move that spirit quite expects, notice, it's gonna get sorta shown up by RU though coming
in from the side, so spirit know what's happening now, they wanna fight back or just let RU go,
RU will fall, looks like the call is gonna be made to not fight whilst the god strength
is out on Yatora.
There's no god strength in there right in front of the Roshan pit.
Yeah, he actually can start toying around with your tour
BKB is at the ready commit force that out from him
Back in a way in fact, you know, perhaps gonna jump in aggressively
He's gonna go with the BKB notes took up the arena now doesn't really catch anyone
But those fuck off potential backup coming in collect those mate is where on top of wants and what's it started a backup jump?
If you're going to try to finish the kill tonight, he doesn't have the damage the spear catches up to the route
They're forced to hang too much here spirit. They'll lose both with the big cause potentially collapse as well as he's gonna get chased out of this
I mean spirit for all the composure though if they sort of have it in the moments before this making these pick-off plays happen
They make a bad call their fog they go for the fight
Yatoro feels that he can maybe get away with making the jump without the God strike
It's not the case without the ultimate he tickles them. Oh, and where is the ice blast?
There's three heroes stunned inside of a pit. I thought there was gonna be an ice blast.
And it's still caught on, right?
It was up. I don't know, I think he sent it at the pit.
I mean, I kept on so I went for an Aegis still, but that did, you know...
I think they're the same way the Collapses did last game.
Really sad a bit of a giggle from it.
And they collapsed. We'll tip him to say, you know, fair play, mate.
He tried to be Aegis still.
But that was rough.
I'm not sure if they would win the fight with the AA blast.
I actually need to see the fight again because, like, I saw a three-man pit while he was disengaging.
and then I think I saw an ice blast just fly over the Roche pit.
So perhaps it's just a different, I don't know, maybe I'm blind.
We'll be able to get the replay on that, see exactly everything that went down,
because a lot happened there and I think too much in terms of what Spirit felt that they could try for.
You know, they were on the retreat.
They had to, it really did feel like they had to cut their losses on that one.
Trying to full commit for the fight did not pay off.
11k down and Yandex they've got an A to some Watson. Yeah, I don't know if the
blast would have like they would have killed the clinks and perhaps would
change at least some type of outcome so either way the God strength was wearing
off and it was a great opportunity for Yandex to at least seize and go for that
fight but we'll see again here so sort of at this point now your torii's got
BKB of course ready to press but no cost rent for the fight
See the eye class was already thrown outright. So yeah, they didn't have anything there to catch onto Watson
And you know what way like this, you know jumping back in there
You're Tora trying to save the team fight, but he was so low on the spend and at this point
Just massively downhill for the rest of the fight with the spank on not a chance to get the damage out
He did blast the pit is what it looked like is what I see what I saw in the replay
Looked that he blasted the pit as the fight was going off. So I mean maybe we'd have gotten some type of kills either way
These there's a big slip up as he takes now ages full items being picked up in these last few moments
Extra coverage versus that orchid that we were talking about you know morale sometimes this work. You can fall off pretty hard
Getting items versus top
Look at the notice, but they might not get him. They won't be KB TPO. He's away
I learned a mechanic you can pin to the gate the fiends gate is a portable object
It also gets glyphed. I didn't know that either two things I just learned
Notice your life can you cast have a spells in it like could you frost shield the game?
Probably you can frost shield the words
That's true. Yeah, I probably can then
You're relevant
still. Kind of cool. Notice BKB back up in 50. Unable to find that kill with the God
strength that means you have 50 seconds that's also going to be on cooldown.
That's tough. We're going to see this replay again. You know they really needed this kill.
They need everything they can try and get Spirit but yeah smooth spear onto the two
of them into the BKB TP out. Keeping his cool here on the Mars, notice.
He's playing this really well, I actually really like it.
Oh, morale!
Oh, gotta be careful here!
Ah, BKBTP should do it.
I don't have anything to stop that.
So, again, any time the push-out things lanes these far on their own,
they're at least gonna have to use a BKB charge every time they survive.
I mean, they're scrambling for stuff now, Spirit.
I mean, what do you think the call's gonna be from, Spirit?
You know, with the way the last few moves have gone,
can they go anything whilst the Aegis is in play?
Do they wait for the Aegis to expire?
Then get back to trying to go for these smoke cups?
Now how did they recover? They're gonna go for it now. It's into this Aegis, it's risky, but maybe they do just have to take these risks.
I think that's exactly it. I think you just have to take these risks and you listen to your Toro.
If your Toro says, let's go for kills, you go for them because he's got God's strength, he's the strongest hero on your team by a long shot now,
and you can't hemorrhage kills on the map anymore.
Yandex is doing what they do best in terms of just gaining that lead and just, it continues to grow.
Ooh, I mean they got a jam!
Okay, well, yeah, that's one of those times where it doesn't feel too bad to settle for a career. Yeah when it's carrying that
He checked it because he's he actually swung first off the stop check the career and I went for it
So yeah, you don't want to be taking out a chance to carry with a smoke at this point unless it has a jet
Yeah
Big 20 talent for the Sven very good versus the Clinkson particular an extra eight armor
So everyone's gonna be racked up with 22 armor
Yeah, we can be pretty substantial in terms of these fights. Although there is a lot of spread damage on the side of yandex
Full hex now
Unnoticed that's early. Yeah
They might not expect that they might honestly this could maybe even cast to get like a pre BKB. Yeah, it's gonna be huge. I
Mean we get but the way that yandex has been playing this series, you know
It still feels like we're waiting for spirit to kind of level it up on their side of things
It was a rough game one
Starting to really work out to be a rough game to they've got to step it up
We know that spirit can bring more than this but so far the coordination the team plate
It's not been at that top level that we expect from them
It really needs to be as good coordination as possible Watson will step forward who had to jam it. It's on morale
I'm gonna clean up with the wrap around and notice
She's going to be able to get the opening, cut him with a spear,
combat, and start things off.
That cat's all gone.
Now, X-Hand, everyone's your tour of the air.
The Hex, the Hospin's things up.
Oh, get the BKB off, but it's so long, the HT's got to run.
What's this going to be about to chase your tour?
He's going to try to stand his ground against what somebody
cannot do, so that's going to be your tour of gone.
Collapse, he'll slowly get surrounded
by the remaining members of Yandex into the trees.
He gets trapped here by the Gale Force.
Collapse will also fall.
It's going to be four dead on Spirit.
Yandex.
They're kinda cruising through this series, triple kill for Watson, 17k lead, Spirit just continue to look a little bit lost today, Fogged.
Yeah, broken really, in terms of just getting their spells off even.
They get the initiation again, notice just jumps, the backline gets both supports inside the arena, the literal dream.
No ice blast, and you can see there, Watson now at this point, somehow in a way can actually stand his ground versus Sven, because of all the Auras as well.
Sven doesn't have to rally around him.
This place is just too big, 20k lead now.
And what's the number of great time there?
Mid tier 2, also the 4.
Should be the money for at least very close to yet.
Now he's got enough to get the full Daedalus now out on the Klingon.
Even if kind of the war cry and such is out there,
they absolutely have enough physical damage to threaten Yotaro.
Again, the jumps have to be perfect from Spirit to give them a chance in these
team fights, but it's so hard now.
You know, the itemization is coming out from Yandex to deal with Spirit Jumping Fondant at this point,
now that they're 20k ahead. We'll see again on this replay. Quick jump onto Panta, and indeed,
as you said, it's the fact that that hatches him out, before he's able to get the BKB off,
that they just didn't, I guess, have sort of the time to click notes and start to jump in at the
beginning of that fight, to sort of give the sort of go ahead for Yatora to immediately BKB,
and honestly, possibly even if he did get it off, they might not have been taking that fight anyway.
They just got completely off guard by that wraparound.
Don't get completely off guard, back in action.
Yatora will manage to get the jump once in Saksa.
You're trying to push out the mid wave.
They've got a go-go-go spirit.
They find one sort of support kill like this.
They need to turn it into more.
They're going to try with this smoke.
Can they catch Chirijunia?
Initiate.
He's got a Lincoln's.
Super necessary for them.
They can't get initiated on.
Okay, they're going to try and use it to set up.
Face shift is there.
They'll get the jump.
They're going to be able to kill him off.
Wow.
Big kill for Spirit.
We'll be able to set up for them to take the Shrine of Wisdom.
They'll turn into a Tier 1 push as well.
Can they turn it into any more?
God Strengths still cool down for 50 seconds,
but if you can continue to sequence these kills,
never let them group up with their five men,
could be pretty nice.
I don't think Yandex will give that type of opportunity,
though.
I think after hemorrhaging the puck, especially,
we're probably going to see them just group up to not let them
get picked off again.
Good move, though.
You know, if things consider from spirit, follow Yotaro.
They'll take what they can get right now, and how far behind they are, the role.
I like the pit too. That was really clever from Collapse, the way that they set that gap up.
Visionist plays Sokso, they see Yotaro.
I mean, they're happy to fight without their puck. They don't need them.
Notice.
Ooh, does he get the spear, like, what's the good chance to put the hex down on the board?
Now that arena's laid out, what's the money to bring him the damage BKB from Yotaro?
He has to run. Get out of the arena. He'll get away. Rui will get left behind.
Spirit at least will keep their course safe. Will allow Yotara to retreat.
There's a lot about their read of the game for Yandex. If they go for those type of plays without the puck,
feeling that they have enough to just kind of cruise through versus Spirit anyway.
The sort of initiations with Penchland, the turnaround from notice is pretty terrifying if you're Spirit.
he's got to see on this you're not gonna stop him from getting his spells his
hex off in these teamfights oh and again showing how strong they are yeah and
well the fact that also yandex are going this with no bkb on themselves and
you're sorry you're sorry we'll jump out morale's not gonna be quite as lucky
Zika last considering turning up to try and help turn this one around
turret looks towards you and notice but the yield just keeps on your torque and
your torrent just gets torn apart by once and morale also to fall double kill
for their clinks. They just cannot fight them whatsoever right now.
And this Aion disperse just, he tries to go for this nasty little play with the Sven to just one shot him because he's facing the back.
But the Aion disprox, they get a little bit of slow and it's enough to just see us have the no BKB Sven.
It just really feels like they're in their element again.
And it's not too much of a surprise right when a team, after the way they execute the game, one comes into game two
and gets what three of the same heroes that they're popping up on again.
Yeah, I think this Chenmourn, as you know, we mentioned it, like halfway and even towards the tail end of that last game, what they were able to do.
I'm feeling the same thing, like this puck, sure, Chira, he's amazing on it, he's doing great, the clink is also godly, but yeah, it really feels like a lot of it is rallied around the arena and then the Chenaurus.
It's enabling so much out of their team.
Not for sure, I don't think other teams are going to let them get these two that easily.
No.
Just a push.
Lots of them.
Still, a few seconds without the mid and carry spirit.
And again to point out they do have all these greater healing lotuses that get, just like they did last time.
So extra healing on top of the Greaves and the Crimson that's going to be coming out any second now for Malady.
26k lead, it has grown massively.
Now getting outside is hard.
That's just a little bit of a refresher next, I mean, already these, oh, morale?
I don't know, I'm gonna use collapse.
Trying to get the catch, but, yeah, they won't commit through the gates on that.
It's so hard for Yatoro in these fights too, because his, his, his BKB's down to the six
seconds already.
We mentioned that, yeah, it has to be pretty much as explosive as possible in those six
seconds because they have to waste the pipe and yeah they're starting to get
way too tanky you know I thought maybe with the spend damage versus the
Channora's would be overwhelming but when I saw that last one
Oh!
Jack was there!
Into the Hex!
Jack's able to interrupt Yotaro trying to get through the Twin Gate
He'll put the BKB but he is not getting out of this one
he'll at least be able to bring down Malady with him
but that's Yotaro dead for 90 seconds and he's a little short on the money for buyback
as well
might even be looking to set up for another one. Sox said at least looking for top collapse won't get out before it.
I mean nice little one shot at least.
I don't know if it's just a neat melody, but...
It's team, they're getting nothing. Nobody's able to step outside.
There we go.
No test.
No test.
I mean they're gonna look towards him. I don't know if you want to mess around with this bar.
We'll just casually turn with the hex stone on towards collapse.
And once he's coming in with the side spring and the damage, collapse is at least got the ghost scepter
to get away from the clings.
Oh, that's actually interesting too from notice.
He took the God or Buker. I thought he was gonna take the regen this game
without things from going, but...
I mean, he's like...
Nobody's dying. Apart from Maladie if he gets one shot by the Sven, but outside of that...
Nobody's dying. Get in on the big damage.
He can actually one-shot the support out of him this way, right?
He's been caught, he's been kept, he's still on cooldown.
So he's gone as well, dead for 80.
No buyback on him.
Great work coverage again. This was another one that they placed in their Maladir, Sokso.
Just overall throughout this whole game.
And what's this?
Get the fortification out. Got nothing to be afraid of right now.
Backup's coming in.
Still has the Aegis for nearly two minutes. No Dragon Knights to sort of open up a flounder.
So that's what's now starting to push him back.
Pressure on all fronts though. Double catapults, all three waves. Yotaro goes bottom. He'll be able to clear that one.
Looks like the index will be a bit patient here.
Looking for another catch, Yotaro.
off-game from the carry.
That's nearly level 25.
Maybe if he can get that next time online,
we have seen the damage potential when it came to hitting the Chen.
Obviously when he's hitting the cause, it might be a bit of a different story.
But maybe, maybe if they can still get that jump,
kind of everything thrown down,
ice blasts onto one of the cores,
They can start the fight off in a way that gives them a chance.
But if that jump goes wrong, the fight's gonna be over, the game's gonna be over in there.
The hopes here at BlastLam6 will come to an end.
I think this is actually, I was gonna say, I think they have to kind of go for like this YOLO wrapper on play
and just delete a target, because he has to delete a target without BKB,
and then get the follow-up targets with the short duration of the BKB.
So it's just very complicated for him to do so.
I'll see if they can find it here.
They're ready for the gold strength, they're going to go straight for Notus, but Notus has got the knee and just going to BKB as well.
He's going to have to turn, get the hex up on the tutorial.
We'll miss the spear.
You turn down to put the BKB to run away, jump forward, and you notice he's ready with that second arena.
Look them down.
If you get the stun on the Chiro Junior, Chiro Junior has you in trouble.
He's going to fall.
Spirit, they get the kills this time.
They've killed Notus, they've killed Chiro Junior.
Can they push for more here?
They've put the numbers, Spirit.
They'll make the drill, he tells them onwards what and what's in the agents, they'll get the BKB off, he's up to the high ground
He has the BKB TP out of him, Malady also goes for the TP, actually makes it away, they didn't have the damage this time to cut through the Chen
They get two big kills there, Spirit actually having to make it work
It looked a bit awkward there with how they were trying to commit onto notice with the fact that he has kind of the refresh, the double E on this, these two arenas
So they're actually able to find the damage, to bring him down, they managed to trip up
Chirijuni, you know, obviously at the moment, he's only got the Lincoln's Fader protector,
but they can break through that, they can find him with these stuns and silences.
They're going to keep the game going, that could have been the beginning of the end,
but Spirit, they find a way to hold on.
It's a cool way to start the fight too, because he puts notice in a position to make mistakes,
and he did, right?
Like a couple of these, he maybe could have insta-speared, or maybe he could have missed
a response, etc.
He ends up missing both, ends up going back in, and then dying, Chirijuni overplaying
his hand and jumping in. Spirit, have another life in this game, because Aegis was also getting
reclaimed at the same time, so Watson was like, ah. Yeah, no, if he didn't get that BKB off here,
he might have been dead as well. Spirit, they've got to try and switch for as much as they can here.
See the defender stop. He's going to get a jump on him also. The icebox is coming in,
Watson's in trouble. It's going to fall pretty low. You're in trouble. Diver at the cost of Watson's
life in return. So we have trade between the carries. Slowly shackle coming in from Saxolo,
Catch it on to Panto and morale goes set to going to buy a little bit of safety for Panto
I should still get finished off the team at the base
I said actually it gets the bleak and goes to the TP but the dreamcourt will be thrown down on towards him
On this to space though for morale to get out of that
I mean it's still David
But yeah, well when you're taking a carry for carry trade when you're 21k down
You're probably not too fast about that. You know you take that if your spirit right now in the situation you're in
Yeah, and toxic, you know, you see them running in and you're like oh
This is such a great situation for my gale for you actually gale forced to spend right on top of the clink
So a little unfortunate for that one, but either way they do get the trade kills. It's just the clink stead
That's very I think they'll still be you know relatively happy because they need to start causing this type of chaos and to be able to
Try to bring this game back
They can keep pulling these plays off
So there was that 20 you know over 20k network behind
maybe that that sort of spirit magic can be retindled here at the moment that it's needed the most
Fnacy
Curious night. Yeah, that's gonna be out of the game for three minutes
much there perhaps losing that one
The really sad thing is that your toros that for so long right so you do see that they can't farm without your taro
They can't really step out everyone on the side of you know, they can just farm
So they do really recover that net worth back to what it was
He's gonna be found pretty far up on this lane. And they'll deal with that. So that's a dead chin.
Have to be careful if you're Yandex. You know, when you are this far ahead as a team, if you do start to lose these, you know, even these support kills at this point, it definitely sort of slows down that momentum, even though the lead they have is so large.
at least the space will be there for Yandex to get the Tormenter, they'll get the Shard
for Chiro Junior, and he's going to have a big boost up in potential in the next fight,
and getting gifted the Shard, and also the fact that he has been playing with sort of
this 7k gold unspent.
And he's like 25.
Right.
A lot of this lead that they have right now is not invested in items.
When they spend that up, we're probably going to start to feel that advantage that they have
right now against Spirit again.
Yeah, especially when they're all five as a unit, right?
That start of that whole situation was because spirit caught them kind of off-guard which caused notice to make mistakes because cheer to make mistakes
So it's a sequence of things now that they're gonna have the five with all these next items. Let's see our spirit
Master pickups. Yeah, the owners picked up 25 junior Watson. Where's he gonna go with his items?
Looking at the bloodthorn. I imagine
I mean, what's gonna switch out is he yeah, the treads as you went to eat the axe
He'd be eggs. Yeah for sure. Ooh
Butterfly for your Toro. Spirit.
He's opening it. Are we onto the three of them?
If you practice this, the Hex also wants your Toro.
Your Toro's going to lock up. He didn't get the chance to put the BKB.
The Spirit came out to his two teammates and then he sort of hesitated.
Did not press BKB. They're going to get cleaned up because of that.
It's three dead on Spirit.
I mean without the BKB being present, he's getting caught quite a few times by this Hex from Notice.
Even in some situations where maybe he might have had the chance to react fogged. I know is the perfect possible fight ever from yet
They're literally five heroes on high ground running into the office
Everyone clustered he literally gets like I almost a possible a three or four man spear honestly
Oh, and this is coming off the back of the position where I mean your tour just spent up
So he doesn't have the money to buy back spent all of his money
So he's gonna be out for a full minute
That could be megas
Even if he gets, yeah, obviously he has to get the BKB, but they have things now.
They have so many tools.
The Aged and his Puck, oh sorry, the 25 Puck as well.
Okay, that's gotta be Vegas.
He's easily bringing in the damage here, the Undex.
Now they'll get the Hex on the wall, collapse it, catching him under the towers.
He's pretty tanky, but not tanky enough with the whole team being into him.
I don't say that, I see maybe with the Ghost Scepter, a little bit of hope to survive that, a little bit longer, it won't be much longer.
He goes down, Ice Blast gonna be pretty much with there, doesn't catch on to anyone.
Little bit of time still until Morrell is back in the game with Yutaro as Yandex beating onto the tier fours.
They'll take the two tier fours down, they'll respect the respawns coming in, starting to retreat.
Yandex, they'll do the damage and they know not to sort of overstep the mark here, they're in a very comfortable spot.
Only the Ancient Left standing on Team Spirit. Collapse, obviously having to use the buyback there as well.
Yandex, they can gather up, take this Roshan and then go for the killing blow.
The Spirit, they know it, they can't sit back, they've got to go for these risks, they've got to get out on the map
and see if they can get that jump onto Yandex before Yandex gets another chance to start the fight onto them.
Look at Yandex taking, they're even being as careful as possible. Look at the opposition. Not even on the enemy high ground, they're playing on this side so they're going to get some good information. They see the Willow bramble so they know that they're in the area here smoked.
Little high ground, he's gonna be able to give a jump, Hex here, straight again, he gets the spirit out of the two of the notes, he's catching both Morrell and Panto.
Panto will buy back immediately, but Morrell is out again for 90 seconds.
No buy back available, he's 70 gold short, they're gonna try and turn over to watch here, and shoot it, but Truegoo's out of just the way.
Another two-match spear into the Hex, they've caught Yutaro, get the BTB and Satanic, he'll be starting to heal up Yutaro.
Back at the plate B, he'll cut down Watson.
Yatora can he go for more? Get the stun on to Malady.
He's trying to chase the check down and finds another double kill for Yatora.
Holding on here, as Yatora survives through the initial stages of the fight,
gets the big kills and will be able to TP back out of there.
He's here, left behind the root.
He'll get taken out by Saxon and notice he does at least have the luxury of buyback.
but somehow some way when they're 20k down, when they're 30k down, it gets to mega creeps.
Spirit are still finding occasionally these fights where you're seeing the potential.
Yatora gets the BKB, Saitanikov, they can't kind of fight through that level of sustain
that he's pumping out on himself. And Spirit somehow they're keeping the game alive that little bit
longer. That is super impressive really. They got Chira right at the start of the fight again,
right he got somehow disabled got caught by something and got isolated notice the spears also
This play right here when they're able to isolate the puck for a bit it caused kind of a problem
And then that spear not latching it actually gets it right on top of the clink
So before like we saw the gales force get him on top of the clink that one is actually
Yeah, if you just have that little more reach and actually connect to the stun yatoro
You know, he's not getting off the the BKB in the same channel
And now if they're looking for the roadshot then what he's trying for us
this was a three dead on yandex.
Oh, that's high ground.
I mean, they're just sort of throwing bodies in
to sort of get a distraction, make space for your turret
to finish the right back.
You're told he wants to go for the kill instead.
The guys will notice.
No, just has to put the PKB, push your turret back
with the spear.
So it's sort of time that they're kind of taking
the attention away from the pit.
Push is now conspired.
Conspired, I should go back in and finish the rush.
Because everybody's going to attack when yandex.
And they're taught, you get the PKB off.
The spear or intercom is just not connect.
They'll probably have to run. Actually no, they'll see the chance, keeps going for the Satsa.
They're going to find just back in on this.
And Yarena's going to get laid down in the round, getting torn apart though from the damage of Watson.
This time around they cannot survive against the Cleese from Watson being in position.
Don't will kill for notice as he chases down Panto. Collapses left behind around the pit.
He'll fall as well. And without the buybacks it's over.
They went for one last attempt around the rose to hold on. It doesn't work out.
Yandex get the 2-0 here today against Spirit as Spirit a rough series fall
We we saw some of that spirit magic coming together towards the end of that one
But it was just too late too deep into the series that couldn't turn this against Yandex
No, just a couple fights that went I mean horrifically wrong really right this top one in particular a couple times great pick offs overall
Honestly Yandex this Chen and his Mars probably needs to be really addressed but the Mars in general
I mean either one of them right?
I think one of them needs to be taken out a lot of situations because they just seem way too comfortable when they play with us.
Absolutely, Yandex looking fantastic today. They'll be moving on a Blast Lamp 6 here with a 2-0 against Team Spirit.
Very convincing a 2-0 I'd say so and that is what is going to see them here in Malta in about a week's time.
So a lot to look forward to when it does come to Yandex.
Obviously getting to see them play a bit more dirty, but getting to break down as to what this series was for themselves, because, Kazoo, do you recall what you said at the end of the draft?
Yeah, 12-0, Yatoro.
That did not happen.
Not even close, honestly, I don't really know what happened to them in this game.
Like, maybe if that one fight in the triangle goes different, like where he kind of gives like his whole game to like jump in and I get like another stun at the end, but there was no Ice Blast, there were other things missing.
Just a bad game.
Yeah, they honestly they just look they looked really rough
I was I thought they would be on the right trajectory
We they won the last two games in the group stage now they get to the best of threes and they just
Man, they just didn't show up today. They genuinely look just like not on the same page individually together
It's just
Anya just to really say in this clip, Panther at the start of the fight, he actually ice-passed the rush pit
But that connects and then you have to fight the Phantom, so I don't really know the
the logic behind it, but like before like because I thought the Isis was used before the fight but
they're already running, they're running away, he's blasting the Roshan and then after the blast is
used then they go back in again so Spirit throughout this entire game just showing multiple points of
just not connecting the spells not having those moments where again if you rewind the clock even
to the online event we just saw they'd at least find these connections but in this tournament in
in this game, there was nothing to spirit
that you can truly praise.
That ice path was so imperative as well
because the fights that they ended up winning
when they were that 20, 30 K down
was because ice path connects on at least two or three heroes
and then you're always able to do whatever you want.
Yeah, no, for sure.
And of course that goes back towards the ad-libs, right?
Like how strong they were in their landing phase.
Yeah, they pretty much put spirit
in this like all composition of like,
if you don't initiate correctly,
if you don't get a spawn takeoff,
we're already cruising through the game.
Like the Chen, the Klink, just everything you wanted
in that save, they must have what they wanted.
Park was generally like, Yandex was pretty much
on cruise control, right?
And that alone is another problem
that Spirit had to deal with
because Yandex just so good in the early game.
Yeah, they just look so much better.
Like not just from the laning,
but also like a lot of their spell casting.
I would say like, notice he had one big blunder
like later where Yatoro got to then like kill him.
But apart from that,
I think their itemization was really good.
The way they cast their spells, team fighting,
their mid game, like, you know,
they know I feel like really nicely
went to step on the gas, I went to like chill a bit,
take a step back, wait, so honestly,
this team, they're looking quite hot.
Yeah, I think it's also totally fine to be a slower team.
Like there's nothing wrong with that.
There've been a lot of slower teams
throughout Dota history.
I think that being a conscious choice,
which I think it is for them, right?
They are a bit of a slower team and they're okay with that.
They mix and move early and then they chill,
they get items and they play with their item timings.
They did it very well this game
and I think they looked like a cohesive unit
and Spirit did not.
And I think that was honestly the biggest difference.
Would you say there were other areas that were also maybe diffed a bit?
I mean, I
Don't know. I think I think this this safe lane is just such a problem
Like I did not anticipate the lane going as badly as I did. I said it in draft
I thought it would be the clink specters, whatever, but it was not whatever they got turbo stomped
Yeah, this this this problem add and all you can't you can't play like this. Yes, Underlord has no game
He's just AFK farming neutrals and the clink is just shooting him the head with a ball the entire time
It's not it's not Dota like this and I think spear doesn't function very well
Whatever collapse plays from such a behind position
Yeah, and but I do feel like they had the tools and like the mid game to then like take over right you've got the
DK like morale to like take it over with the ice fast
You had your Toro who had a bit of a maybe like a slower game
But he had a blink at an okay timing as well
I really thought that they could make up for it because I still I still like spurred strap
I think today it's more of a it's more of a gameplay problem to me
No for sure
I mean panter he rushed the big guy guys you can see from the scoreboard right he goes to that blink and when
you get there, you're expecting Rue and Morrell, even your Toro depending on the his blink
dagger timing, to sync up and try and make moves. But it's not like Yandex just knew
where to be on the map to exploit that. Like as soon as you see the optimization on Spirit
it's like, okay, you know what, be ready for that one move. Because if they do get the
pick off, sure, the game can't get a little bit awkward. They're playing with every God
Strump, they're playing on every fiendscape. But Yandex, they just went, you know what,
fine. We see your aggression, we wait for it, and then we break you when we're ready.
Well, Yandex doing everything so right, getting the 2-0 does also mean that they're going to be here in Malta, but until they're here with us, we'll just have to settle with an online interview.
Watson, thank you so much for joining us. Congratulations on the win. Did you expect a 2-0 like that against Spirit?
Oh.
I'm mad at many words, as always.
I do have to ask, what would you say is your favorite thing in your room?
If you had to pick one item that you love more than anything else, is there one?
Uh...
Maybe further behind you?
The Quinn-the Quinnfang?
Pepe and Quinn.
Pepe and Quinn.
Is there a story behind the Quinn-the Quinnfang?
No, I just got it then.
No, I just got it and when we played in Gladiators on China Tournament, so I bring it home.
I love it so much, and I'm sure Quinn has some questions as well.
Yeah, there were a lot of those fans there. It was a little too much.
I was curious how you felt about Collapse and Rue in this game, because in the past they were like really strong lane.
They would give you some problems sometimes. Do you feel like they're a strong lane right now, and if not, who do you think the strongest off-lanes are?
I don't know, I think against my big game religion, it's hard to say.
Really?
Yeah.
We just had like better heroes, like Ursa against what, I don't remember, something,
and then Clinkz against Underlord.
You had Chen.
And I had Chen, yeah, like Giga Chen player.
Yeah, Malady was definitely something else on that Chen.
I do have to ask, normally you're infamous for your
Terrablades and your TAs and stuff, but now you're winning on Clinx as well.
Do you have a top three carry heroes for this meta?
Yeah, I like SF.
SF?
Yeah.
Alright.
Gull, you know.
SF, what do I like else?
I don't like Andranar, I think this hero is pretty sus.
I like Ursa.
I know the answer, yeah, yeah.
But my coach don't give me a kiss.
I don't know why.
Even after you, you beat your tourist cars, you're just like,
I still love that guy.
Yeah, we won't dream of a kiss.
But they don't trust.
That's my stuff.
And last question as well, for you, Leif.
Do you have a top 3 anime at the moment?
Because I know you're a big anime lover.
First, I think, my Naruto.
Second one is...
Maybe Attack on Titan.
Solo leveling
Okay, alright solo leveling sneaking in there. I know a lot of people love that. Quinn, do you have anything else to ask Watson?
No, I've seen multiple brother. Say flight
Thanks.
Yeah, what's and thank you so much for joining us
I'm just happy he didn't say the what's that the egoist of football thingy, right?
Yeah, no, no, the football is way worse first like oh gotta be the best no he went for some other stuff again
I don't really know anime, but I only know Naruto from the list he mentioned
The solo leveling on it was massive. It was a manga for ages
People loved it that it was pretty good and then I got turned into an anime
I want to say that two years ago and BSJ was trying to convert every talent that existed to go and watch it
He's like this shit is the best thing you'll ever watch
I've never seen an anime so good and yes, I was surprised that it's not going to what's in stock there because he's a big JJK lover
So I was surprised not there in the top two Kaiser or something
by the way, but I'm not talking about Kyle.
Exactly. Love those guys.
Crazy.
They can't be passionate about something other than Dota.
They're getting flamed in this fucking panel apparently.
Take the Ls, mate. Let's go.
Only Dota.
The Dota panel for a reason, okay?
It's not the anime panel.
There it is.
And you know, keeping back the Dota, Yandex.
Last time we saw them, they got slapped.
Bam!
3-0 by Tundra at Slam 5 Finals.
Now, they're returning to Mortar.
They got a little chiff on their shoulder potentially.
And I'm hoping they do a lot better,
because again, their last Grand Finals in Slam,
not the strongest, but now what we're seeing,
it feels like a completely different Yandex
You know one slumber go yeah, this is only quarter finals that they make that path through right there's still of course
Oh gee and Navi sitting in that semi-finals, and we only have three we only have half of our teams
Qualified to multi right now guys
Do you want to put out any more bold predictions as to who the other three teams are gonna be because I didn't get to ask you that
Normally I asked that it's not of plans all the way predictions at board. Oh
Ooh.
Ah, okay, okay, wordplay.
Yeah, that's good.
That's good stuff, guys.
I'm conflicted because I've got ex-teammates on Liquid,
and Game Religion is the last remaining NA hope.
So for me, I'm...
Oh, that's a tough series.
I'm split, split fiction there, but I think,
off of Game Religion's prior win,
I'm putting all my eggs in the Fade Basket.
Just really?
That's where my eggs are.
I got no eggs anywhere else.
I don't care about the other teams.
Oh, they're getting whacked in that series.
Liquid are tooling them.
You just heard Watson said his the hardest offline to lane against is gamer legions
I'm a horse's mouth. I want to see it. I'll wait to see it
Suffix weird about that
I think you guys might have the wrong schedule though because they're not playing until tomorrow our final best of three for today
His falcons up against extreme gaming right after this break
So what throws your team into chaos? What gets you guys really?
Making mistakes, huh?
When I'm my self balance because he's like doing the drafting for us after a game
he's like the first voice like him and AUI.
So if he like has something that throws him off balance,
like that will kind of mess with the team a little bit.
That's probably the biggest factor, I'd say.
In a perfect scenario, what makes a team balanced to you?
We have a very mixed group of people
and I think everyone understands the role on the team.
We all come from different teams,
like that kind of helped us understand
different perspectives and like a lot of like
capabilities in terms of helping each other
and like understanding different frustrations and stuff.
Let's talk about failure.
Something that you're quite accustomed to,
Chris, you failed many times in your career.
Through all those horrific failures,
what did you hold on to the most?
Some of the TI losses, like when I think back on it,
like that's what hurt me the most.
But at the end of the day, like,
it's also part of the process of
you'd like learn from your mistakes, you know,
like we would probably not have won TI this year
if I hadn't lost so many already.
So, you know, it's part of the process for me.
Speaking of learning,
What do you take away from a failure?
We need to be all on the same page.
And for us to do that, you need to have these fundamentals
and dota that you kind of follow every time.
If somebody goes off script, I guess, in some way,
like that needs to be addressed.
Like it's fine to do it, but you need to understand
your team doesn't know what's going on,
because you're going off of what's normal.
That's very important for us to fix it.
Crypt, what feeds your undying hunger
to continue playing this game?
You already have gotten everything.
You've crushed everyone beneath your heel,
and yet you pound them into the dirt. Why?
I do love this game.
Like, I would not be able to play the game if I didn't love it
because it's very intense.
So, like, that's probably the biggest thing.
Part of it was also after, like, we lost TI in Copenhagen.
That was pretty rough.
I wanted to kind of make up for that.
And I think winning TI this year was...
was kind of like the last step for me.
So, like, now it's just...
I'm just here for the right, you know?
Like, I like my team a lot, so I think that helps.
What about if you keep grinding because you love the challenge?
What do you have in Dota? You can't find something else like that.
I spent 20 years playing this game and I don't think I'm going to be competitive in anything else that's really meaningful, so yeah, it's a big part.
They seemingly have zero answers, Skeeter. Another one on another focus fire.
The Crimson Guard does nothing to stop Skeeter as he just continues to focus them down and go and go after the Morris here.
Instant pulverize on the Dragonite. Oh, my God! He died fast, man!
He died instantly.
Falcons and Extreme Gaming, the two names we were saying at TI14 finals and a very long
history between the two of them and whilst the Falcons wrestlers remained the same.
So we'll change up for Extreme Gaming.
Sakezu, are we going to see a different result than what we had four months ago?
I don't know because these teams, they always, they kind of split the wins.
You know, you don't really know what is happening like with them.
But the one thing that is for sure, you know, apart from the one outlier
on the game two in the Dream League groups, they play against each other for a quite long time.
Obviously, these two teams, you know, they're very good.
They understand how to like lane, how to drag the games out.
But generally speaking Falcons get the better in the lanes, but XG they came out about the mid game and the team fighting
So that's where they come back. So what you're saying is we could all go and make a little bit of popcorn
Maybe a cup of tea. Yeah chill a bit come back at like minute 28th. That's for the first five. Bye. Oh, there comes out
Bye. Oh, I'm glad 28 minutes. Okay. So kind of what we saw from the last series, but
different flat regional flair shift
regional flair shift
player. Both of these teams in this tournament have a different, why am I, I just, you broke
me. I looked across the panel, I saw three different faces, but even with Falcons versus
a stream, let's all name a real quick, look into the numbers right now, alright? Everyone
talks about throwing, who's been throwing the most out of these two teams? Falcons.
They're playing basketball over here, with three of their games just getting thrown out
of the window. Actually, yet to throw a game actually, but they are the comeback kings.
Look at them!
Whooo!
Four games that they have been able to find a crowd back in.
Sure, that means that they are losing a little bit of their early and mid game shenanigans,
so maybe the early game from XG8 isn't looking too clean, but they are able to claw their
way back into the game unlike the Falcons.
They got no claws on that bird.
What was that?
That's why they're throwing.
And that's her again.
That's why they can't keep it in the claw.
There it is.
Just for clarity, there are no windows in basketball.
Oh, and it's throwing like just a bow in general.
Like, what do you mean?
Oh, good.
We have three different things.
I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know.
The window throwing sport?
Yeah.
That's my favorite one.
I love that one.
Look, I'll let you guys think about it.
And for the rest of us, we can all focus up on Falcons,
really put our heads in the games here,
because these guys have been together for quite some time.
We're talked about it splitting the winds for themselves,
the fact that they're a little bit shaky right now.
But Quinn, you've given us nothing of value right now,
so please.
Yeah, step it up.
I think I agree that they're shakiness.
And I think if you compare their stance now to where they were
they were in the prior blast. It's not only surprising, I mean the win rate obviously they're doing
worse, but I think the game length is considerably different. Their games are going way, way longer
and I think that's because of that messiness, the sort of sloppiness in their gameplay. We don't see
the clean, pristine falcons that we normally do, which is you win lanes, you slowly build a gold
lead, almost painstakingly over 30-some odd minutes, and then you close the game out with a
gigantic gold lead, right? We're seeing slower games that are messy, they're back and forth,
I mean, I think that's a
big difference. I mean, I
think that's a big difference
because almost a 10 minute
difference between last time
and this slam in their game
length, and they've also played
more heroes in less games. This
tournament so far. I think that
also is a sign to me that they
are. They're sort of
figuring things out. They
don't really understand. There's
not that structure, and then we
picked Panglare and we picked
this stuff. A lot of the heroes
they were picking. They're bad
now. And so I think they're
finding themselves and they are
in a very messy state. They're
not calculated like we normally
for an interview.
Skidup, I'm going to ask you a question on behalf of Kezum.
When are you going to shave the mustache?
If you really want to, I can do it before the match starts.
Would you actually like, hand on heart,
if we see the play-cams right now,
they're going to be no mustache?
Yes, I look way worse right now.
All right, well, we'll see it.
I'll have to believe it to see it, see it to believe it.
But you guys obviously have a bit of a rough of blood
last LAM group stage right now, what do you think is one of the big causes or reasons for that?
I think it's mostly tied to the fact that we've been playing together for so long and it's just
bound to happen. They're going to encounter some problems, it's all about how you deal with them
and that's sort of where we are at right now. We're kind of like in a bad state but we are
trying to get better with each day and I think throughout this group stage it's been looking
pretty good and today we'll see if it's actually true or not.
Yeah you guys had I guess a similar start to last year so does it feel heavier this time
around going through a similar thing or the fact that you guys ended up winning TI off
of a rough start to a year does it not feel that it's as doom and gloom as it might come
across in results?
I would say it's worse than last year for sure and for the main reason it's hard to
to say it's like a combination of a lot of things.
Yeah, that's certainly fair.
And you guys went back to playing qualifiers.
You haven't played qualifiers really since you formed together
as a group.
So how was it going through that again,
and being in boot camps so long before playing Blast?
We actually have not boot camped for the qualifiers.
We played them from home.
But I do have to say it reminded me of the first year
when we had to play qualifier for everything, especially
the very first one we won, the GMAG one.
I was like, I was very excited after we won.
It was kind of like winning a whole tournament
even though it was just some random qualifier.
No, that's super wholesome.
And then coming up against your opponent today in XG,
obviously a TI finals run back.
How do you predict the best of three is gonna go?
I mean, ideally we just went to zero.
I was already telling him more
that he should just pick Magnus to give Alma his PTSD.
What a goat. What an absolute goat.
For you, Kev, you did it.
What would you rate him now? What was the mustache rating and then the mustache rating?
Oh, the mustache rating, he drops from like an A to a two.
Now he's back up.
He should have called me.
Ooh, good.
Yeah.
What the hell? What the hell?
No, no, no, mustache rating is not the one.
Everyone watching, you're welcome.
Mr. Conker, a bit of him.
Oh, you're taking a photo of this one.
Get a look. It's pretty good then.
Now you just made it.
Looks good. No, don't hate it. Maybe this game. He's that's it. We'll make a
Who knows, you know, it's okay. Maybe losing the mustache or maybe that's given a little bit of a more mental fortitude
Maybe he's like, I'm impressing Kesley right now. He is
He also talked about the fact that they might just take Magnus to instill some mental damage towards army
And that is the question you have to wonder with extreme gaming as good as they can look at sometimes
They can just rock up and you wonder where the XG of days gone by have gone
Yeah, I mean they're a team that I think depends a lot on the draft can they get the structure the formation
I think when they get those good environments they get the drafts they like this team is can be very dominant
I think they have the potential right now to be a top tier team. It's to me
It's just do they get the comfort do they get that late game the typical XG style that we love to see from them
Yeah, I just want to see FY lock himself in that seat. No more toilet breaks in the game
No more, you know other thoughts just make yourself really locked in dialed into the game not the bathroom
I feel like he looks pretty lucked in, in fact, all these five players are so lucked in, they're already in the lobby and a draft for our best of three to Molter is ready.
and they're not going to be
able to do that. Falcons and
extreme gaming, splitting the
winds as a Kaisu so kindly
gave us the stats towards and
they both had pretty rough
group stages. Definitely not
ending up in a position anyone
would have expected for the
respective teams and sometimes
you just got to take out what's
comfort for extreme gaming.
They're taking out the Oscar
and the Viper, most likely the
razor as well to really make
comfortable. Timbersaw is one of those two, whereas Falcons are taking out a tree and a slaughter.
Again, from the graphic that I showed earlier about the, you know, the comebacks in the Frosers,
XG's early game just hasn't been as consistent. Like, of course, we've always said that they are
the mid game team, late game team. They want the team fight, they want the scaling, they want Army
to be kind of cushioned by the lockdown, so you can do the damage. But that is always something
that Falcons can look towards, you know, try and exploit the fact that XG haven't changed their
style since the I pretty much I mean I like that XG also I mean these are
mainly like player bands right like sure the Huskar Viper you do take them out
in other games too but especially against this team same with the timber
they can flex it they've got a mar just take it out and at the same time in this
entire series I don't want to see XG touch this hero themselves because it
has looked very poor but now Razor is in the pool right here that Falcons have
you know leaned on even to be fair XG have started playing it themselves but
Yeah, Razor is kind of the biggest one, I'd say, that goes for him. Yeah, they do take it.
What is the QWAP ban about?
I was wondering the same thing. I think this might just be a future ban type deal,
in case they want the Sand King or something like that, second phase, that it's pre-ban.
Because Falcons don't play it, right?
And I think it's a hero that is very good against Malorin's heroes,
whether it's the Sand King, the Primal, or other random of these melee dudes,
the QWAP just happens to be very good against all of them.
I mean, I guess that makes sense, because at least in other matters,
You would at least think about picking co-op into Razor, but it's not even a falcon's hero anyway, so I think that checks out.
They wouldn't be out even if they didn't play with Razor.
Probably skater would lie like this.
They told them about Magnus in the interview and then they'd pick up Mars?
Maybe they put it in support. They didn't say where they would play.
Yeah, Crit can play Mars.
Not the Magnus!
Didn't realize falcons would lose.
He can't flex it to give them our Magnus, right?
Oh, right!
Now we're going to play Magnus.
Right, right.
All right, good.
He just said that they might kick it.
True.
Skater could play Magnus.
Okay, relax.
I'm not sure how I feel about this first pick razor for XG specifically.
I think this team likes to get their jumper earlier in the draft.
Historically, we see XXS on Primal Beast.
If you go back to Ki, there's the Urshaker, there's these big jumpy boys.
I think that's what they like.
And Razor does not fit that theme.
It's very much, it does go sort of back to that laning snowball, that fighting,
which I don't think is XG's strong suit.
And so I have some question marks about this,
even though Razor is obviously a very strong hero and a fine first pick on the midlaner.
I mean, it could be, I believe nothing to say has played it for them.
Like, I don't, yeah, so I would assume that maybe that's what you want and also what you
mentioned Quinn about Malrin's heroes. I would say that Razor is probably pretty good against most
of them other than maybe like Sniper. Yeah. So that's something Falcus could think about.
I mean, for XG again, the early game being a bit slower. If you have your mid laner, as I hear
that can shove the wave somewhat annoying to dank from the mid lane, it does simplify the inevitable
Support rotation that Falcons like to bring towards the you know the Malory lane trying to you know fight nothing say also
I'd say nothing say hasn't really you know
Shined on some of the playmaking mid heroes that you would argue he did in his you know in the past
So I don't mind it for the fact that he would just buy pipe. He'll sit mid. He won't die
You know, he can draw heroes to him if he needs with a cut about wave it just
Not the most playmaking but again kind of respecting thousands
Me like I like the clown
I think this is the best team at playing the clown both could play it snaking as well. It's pretty good. It's a good laner
You've got the box. You've got the wheel. It's Joe. It's good
Yeah, there's a lot of stock standard this this tiny thing scares me though the stereo scares me
This is my toy
And if it's for tiny that also means probably a razor offline, which I do not think particularly good for XG
I think especially when you have a warlock you want you want an offline or who can fight with you because if you end up with just
a support timing and a support warlock,
it can make your hero pairings a little bit odd in the big game.
Doesn't offline Razor provide that though,
through the aura buying, tiny warlock.
Like Warlock going through Twin Gate,
putting the fate of Vons down.
You kill the wave very quickly,
with like the plasma and the avalanche,
it's kind of early chip damage,
but if the Razor buys auras
and you kind of create a trial in five, six minutes in,
it doesn't sound like the worst, instead of the best.
On paper, I don't disagree.
I think for XG specific,
I think it's not what clicks for them
But I guess that's what the quad band was for so do the 1617 primal. Yeah, it's protected by the club
Lager
Now coming back into our games. It was not touched at all yesterday. He's been missing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, people like
Yeah, we have put too many stocks in this here. Yeah, people try to play offline quadrupling down
Yeah, but I don't mind it
Crypt playing in the 4th position, it feels kind of nice, being able to be like the melee body that does the generic 4 things, again 4 is one of the roles that any hero can technically play as long as you respect the lane setups, do you need to pull, do you need to block, can you contest runes, but Largo, you have croak, he's going to croak up the primal, they still will never pick down the line for Falcons to utilize, it's just kind of, just there, map playing enabling hero, and also dispelling Warlock shenanigans.
I do feel like Falcons have a better thing going on right now.
I think they have this sort of tank ability, these classic Falcons heroes,
and they've got the potential to pick a little more damage if they need it coming into last pick.
And I think the Largo Healing, the Primal Tank ability, is very good against this sort of, if you look at
Extreme's heroes, it's a lot of sort of little bits of damage. It's spread out.
It's mid-range magic damage, which I think the Largo Healing makes a lot of sense against.
I think this is a very calculated logical pick.
It's not just we pick the frog because we feel like it. I think it's quite good against what XG have
And so I think thus far I think Falcons have I liked how they've responded to things a little bit better
I agree. I mean what do we feel like XG will close?
Close it with here. Could it be like some
Ursus when to like try and punch through like some of the tankiness because I mean while razor warlock works
I think it's a bit me like it doesn't really give me that much
Yeah, I mean actually themselves in there. They spent a lot of herself. Yeah
I'm always the sucker for Alchemist. I'll raise one of the few players that does it, but then, you know,
Alkwala claims, jumping it out. You are kind of the beefier boy. You're jumping into the back.
The skirmishing potential of the first three heroes can buy enough time for him to get the items, but
I'm always hesitant to say the hero.
You're both broke!
Whoa, both brother.
Both?
Yes.
Okay, hello.
I mean, for me, I like seeing Kunkka when a team has more survivability and somewhat low damage.
Like Falcons, it's Ringmaster, Largo, Mars, just kind of setting up other people to be good.
Primordial, you can argue, can be the damage depending on the game state, but there's not that big, big source.
So a well-placed, you know, boat with the Rumbuff pushing forward other heroes, like a Razor, like a potential, you know, army carry down the line.
It doesn't sound like the worst, but it's very forward-thinking, aggressive lineup that actually has,
which is kind of counterintuitive to the playstyle that they normally go for.
I mean, I think it pairs well with Razor and Warlock, it's those heroes want someone to sort of go in for them
You can play long fights with Xs with the rum and and be tanky
So you have enough time for Razor to steal enough damage to get enough eye to storm ticks
So you can actually burn through the heroes. So I think there is some rationale to it
I do think it should be pretty bad against Largo
And ringmaster because you have a bunch of healing and you have to save and Konka is a hero that is very low damage
So you need it coming from your team. There's a lot of emphasis on Razor right now and having a good game being a focal point
Of these heroes so far so I can see both sides of it
If both lineups are the battle of sustain right you've got the auras of a razor the displacement of tiny saving wallock
Hills and then conquer the other side with the lago hill that you mentioned the escape pack
That's already been mentioned victory fees potential Mars like both teams really are gonna try and play the first fight at secondary fight
Really trying to drag it out
The one thing I see I mean conca used to be one of nothing to say is absolute best heroes
But I have a little bit of a problem with like the three man while I understand that warlock conca give you like crazy
Good mid game and like team fighting if I see the two mid laners pair up with the two supports
I would rather be the primal beast with my two bros behind me and like, you know, there's some whip
There's some buffs. I just keep going in so for XG
I really wouldn't mind if they can find another core that
Doesn't shy away from joining the earlier rune fights like minute six minute eight minute ten
like heroes that go there because I think for now your three guys they need some help or like whoever's playing Razor that they also look at this fight
to like come and join it
Yeah, I mean I think it's one of those games where you need to combine the course
I think it could be a slower
Maybe first five six minutes and then you get to a point where conco can connect to Razor because you're right him connecting
If these are the two supports him connecting to them is not going to do that much rogue pick
We don't see much PA bring back the warlock PA lane. It is a bit more of a maybe not as
active as you said but it can't do it. I'm just thinking like trying to give
more purpose to Warlock in the laning phase. You're elusive, it's annoying and
then you got this layering of tankiness so then PA can't go for a bit more of a
damage build utilizing your other heroes. And there's some army here. Again I like
Alk and I like PA. They're the two that come to mind. So you want something that's
merely rather than ranged by the fact that you're saying Alk and PA? I will say so.
Yeah and I think also by the fact that they didn't ban Ursa, I don't really think
They're like picking a new offline. That's like a melee guy. I think it's just
Razor going there conca going mid. I mean, I'm still on like this vendor so for them themselves
but then if you're picking Sven that doesn't check out because you didn't ban Ursa yourself, so I
Think you kind of have to pick the zero and they banned Windranger
I do think they have very good carry bands like in the second phase. They took out weaver clings to like benefit of Razor offline being possible
And now they took out the Skeeter Ranger
I like the facet with the damage reduction on glaives, I think it's very underrated and
in certain games when you're talking about longer fights, that's exactly what you can
do.
Again, Ked is mentioning the Ursa with Enrage, whenever you see heroes like Mars or Primal
Boost just being able to just body and survive longer under their initiation, it's always
going to feel good.
I love it because that means that there is a potential chance at some point we may see a Luna, you know, the fact that it's thought about in the last place, and you're like, there could be that five percent chance we get to see her at one point.
We should be. See her at one point in Malta.
At one point in Malta?
I mean, what's the skitter here? You kind of want a ranged guy against Razor, I think, in lane, but both Kanko and Ursa and Tiny are kind of annoying.
I'm looking for like a middle ground.
Yeah, I'm generally not entirely sure.
I think you just want something solid.
I think it's going to be a very classic Falcon's lineup.
Man, they're really not sure they're coming out of the wire.
I mean, to me this is a pick of, we're not sure what to pick.
I don't think Sven is good against any of these heroes.
I think it's legit bad against maybe four of them.
You can say it's okay against WarR.
It can be okay against Razor, because we can overdamage his drain.
But it's the early game, right?
Like the tiny Razor, the wall are going through gate.
There's this ward that XG can just punish the Sven.
And we've seen how, I think Falcons have been using their TP quite poorly compared to previous slams, previous events,
where a Mars is throwing a TP out, where normally he just farms.
Like that's kind of what I can see here.
XG, they poke onto the Sven, who's not very high in lane presence.
Now Mars is bottom, Army's farming top, there's a battle fury in play.
Things can stop all that way, but yeah, it's just kind of like a...
We need a hero, Skiddy.
I liked Falcons draft a lot more before the last phase came out.
I think Falcons got pretty cooked in both teams' last picks.
I would say there are, of course, a lot of plays, many openings.
Falcons can abuse faster early game.
But I think Ame, Ursa, against his team,
also has a pretty damn good track record.
They needed this type of giga sustained overtime damage.
And I think they got that.
Yeah, I mean, he also has an incredibly free lane.
Ursa Warlock will not...
He will have every creep against Mars Largo.
I don't think there's much else that will happen there.
Maybe they get some Warlock kill,
but that's the best they can hope for.
So I agree.
I think XG, they fixed their draft quite a bit
with the last couple of picks
and I think I'd probably favor them.
I'm just happy to see Tiny in the full position.
Yes, I mean, I'm in the lead.
I'm sorry, man.
Look, there was no worry.
You guys didn't know where this Tiny was going.
We can confirm it's in the position for us.
So there's way more hope than what it was playing out
the last two picks. I think
you're going to have to be
able to have a good start
with that. I think you're
going to be able to go for the
side of extreme gaming. All
of the five picks coming
together for my three
analysts here on the side of
Falcons, maybe getting
undone towards the end there
with their last pick. Do you
guys want to put anything else
out there before we get into
the game about how it could
go right for either XG or
Falcons. I'm Maureen Primal is
just built different. And so I
think any game this guy's
primal you you're never really
fully sure because sometimes
for them, but the side of Falcons, not 100% convinced on what they've got for themselves,
but they're still definitely chances for them. It's the best of three at the end of the day,
and this is only game one.
andcon.
one.
one.
one.
We have the opportunity in the group stage that has Extreme versus Spirits now we get
Extreme versus Falcons, the repeat of Grand Finals, and sure to be a lengthy game as the
I think so. I think you can't
really have extreme versus
Falcons without it going long.
What if I told you I'm from the
future? Okay, give me the
winning lottery numbers. What
if I know that's the
different future? What if I
told you that future the
lottery doesn't exist? I mean
times the flat circle Austin
so future is now and let me
tell you something now.
XG
25 minute victory. Would you believe me? I
Mean, I would only believe that extreme can finish this up quickly. I definitely do not believe that Falcons game
Well, it's gonna go 60 minutes. So you were correct
Prepare yourself for a long game here. I could see XG went in 25
I think it's doable if they really play the like the mid lane wall with this conca
I think it's an ultra free Ursa game
I don't really know what Falcons do to contest this guy in the in the lane or in the fights
They also put snaking on the ringmaster and crit on the Largo
And I'm not sold by this
I'm a slow down by the blood grenade falcon setting up a trap for first blood and it's not quite good enough
I I think crit is a premier ringmaster player and I think
the Largo should be a five for this team so I'm not sure why they opted for this
exactly unless Snae just doesn't want to play the frog
maybe Snae has no sense of rhythm
that I can actually believe that yeah he definitely does not
not only I've ever seen him have anything in that category it could be they
wanted the remaster here for the racer lane to try and swing it a little bit
for this dead because putting Largo, Sven versus Razor sounds real rough.
Sure, you have every single time he goes to Link,
you just team the beast, make him run away.
That's definitely the best disable they have to break Link.
Well, not even that.
I don't think the Ringmaster's going to fight the Razor.
I think it's about the Ringmaster against the Tiny.
You're not putting a double nail in against Tiny,
where he just could do whatever he wants, contest polls.
I think Ringmaster's a higher chance of fighting Tiny
and getting small camps up, getting poles off, getting something in this lane to help the
Sven.
I see.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I think that might have been the biggest consideration, because if you put Largo Sven up here, I think
you were in big trouble.
It's kind of why I like the XG draft.
I think their three lanes look very solid.
They have pretty decent scale with this Ursa against the Sven, which is very one-sided
matchup.
Oh, it just looks solid.
to be a little low damage on the support dual till they get cookie, but if the lanes are neutral
at worst then not too worried about that yet. Well why do you bring up the Kunkka at this
right then? Because I can see stream gaming running away with the side lanes. Is it just because the
side lanes should automatically win and therefore if Kunkka wins his mid lane matchup against
primal beasts and they win all three lanes and can stop the game? I think Kunkka is just the hero
that brings his life together in the mid game in terms of playmaking. And if he got owned by Maureen,
and you know he's just a non-factor, this private snowball, and then I think this whole game can
flip. And I think it would be very hard to get your supports into this mid game if the Kunkka's
disabled. So, well, I'm more fortunate for, uh, fortunately for Extreme, nothing to say is doing
very well. 17 and 4, and clear team 13 and 1, and I feel like this is probably a winning matchup.
a hero that actually needs to be underneath the primal beast getting
trampled and it's constant harassment against him. It feels like a Kunko
layman. He's actually a clear Kunko win. I can see you set up the kill here around
the level five. He's shipping him with this level two Tiber here and if Maureen
goes for some aggressive trample the wave you just X him, you TP and support. You
set up the little nukes on him. I could see Maureen go down here. Of course he is
super experienced on this primal so you don't know the limits tough tough player
to kill in lane yeah probably the best primal beast in the world mid lane
primal yes who who in plays off lane primal that can test Maureen for that
title collapses is pretty good I also think xxs is primal don't what we saw
yesterday even though he lost a game his primal's yes it's kind of sick okay
also you forgot the tops in primal beast he was the OG primal beast before
Maureen was even boring tops and was playing you know it's heating to bring
a top. Yeah, but he had a very unique style that was ahead of the. You know, those ahead
of what you could say that about literally any hero, any support or core you could bring
up and you just be like, well, actually, like, I think Thompson was actually the best of
that hero because, oh, yeah, really, you can take on it in the mid lane because everyone's
just always talking about the tops and brood mother. Yeah, that's a that's a real thing
when surprised me. I'll just follow top stream. But if we're talking about brood mother and
I saw some comment from Zobo Uji fan who was like,
well, you guys actually don't know about the Thompson Brutemother.
It's really good, but, you know, it wouldn't surprise me at all.
Well, he does not play that hero.
I've never seen him play that hero.
I don't think he'll ever play that hero.
Okay.
Just watch, there's gonna be comments.
You missed the, you missed the area in 2021
when Thompson was fan me Brutemother for two weeks.
Why did you miss shit?
This man was beating my ass.
I was right there, though.
I was like, I didn't miss anything.
I don't know if he beat my ass with Brutemother.
No zero zero start. This is a classic
XG Falcons like it is exactly what I would expect just everyone farm and everyone chillin
They just have a mutual agreement to skip the early game and go straight into the mid game
Or both these teams prefer to make their their presence felt. I don't like either these teams have been
Lane domination snowball oriented for some time. I think Falcons were capable of it and doing it at some point, but they kind of
Just opted for like a slower play style on average
Not that they won't take that lane victory, but I think it's been some time since we've seen them just rolling teams.
And maybe part of that is also the meta that developed, and I think the game has slowed down quite a bit going back to the TI where these two teams met in that Grand Final.
So, I'll play it up. That Grand Final was pretty fast, so I don't know what the hell that says.
Maybe just the pressure of the TI Grand Final caused everybody to cycle tanks to choke.
Looking back on that TI funnel, do you think that the drafts were very one-sided?
Because the games were very one-sided.
Do you feel like that was just a draft show?
I still think that game five drafts is a lot closer to that game you have to beat, but we'll never know.
There's a boat, but not all he is doing much.
Yeah, not a whole lot.
Ex-Nilva came over for the gank, but, you know, he's a warlock.
just not much aggressive potential for xg here with these three heroes not until
later on you need way more levels on these supports I guess we can just snack
the towers this is kind of interesting item I don't know if this was the
original idea with this play but it is he popped healing itself to tank the
tower more as this is quite the commitment daggers falling in create
cancels the salve with the catchy lick and the tower will survive but man they
got a lot of damage on it so it's okay something here for your trouble still
zero zero though stacks being built in the jungle for the primal so it's good
news for Maury should accelerate him
has gone away.
I mean, these things are so
passive that the most exciting
thing is the denies. Look at
the denies that are happening
is top lane between X X S and
Skeeter 12 denies and 11
denies. I feel like Skeeter has
gone away with all more than he
getting some pulls off.
Right, giving Tiny the run around.
Gonna go back for the eight minute power room here.
See if they can get the light out from the primal.
After that, this big tower keeps on getting kicked away.
Okay, well, there goes that.
You now have a haste run on Primal Beast.
Not like that, Maureen's gonna deny the tower.
and so we got a tower kill before we got a hero kill.
That's not what I would expect in this series.
All in on Maureen during his haste room timing,
he does not get to Bob, and he does not get to run away.
That was, well, that looked pretty easy.
I don't know if he just toward voted it with no setup.
Classic. Classic Kunkka gameplay right there. And Ex-Nova is ecstatic. You got these black grimoire stacks.
True. So level 5 could get close to level 6 here.
It's a big kill for XG. Kunkka working out. Really shut down any aggressive potential from this primal.
Even gets you the extra kill enabling the supports here can go and steal some stacks, too
Like we saw I like that component of it
Well, this word is gonna spot the primal beast the word is also spotted and it doesn't stop them and mark
It's the spear at the same time as Maureen shows up the lane
You're like extreme kind of had to know that was coming
I mean you killed the primal beast with a haste rune in his back pocket
He's gonna tip you to one of those side lanes. They have a way more to yeah
I'm lost to fun out after but no he laid it down underneath the century the problem is is that like
By the time he sees him, it's a hasted primal beat. It's like he's already trucking
And tomorrow already got that spear at that time big time
Ex-ex-ex-ex is gonna punish this
Trying to get the whip on her break the link not quite the arena
We'll be able to break the link ex-no-busy in a live awful lotus bed to him
Never mind he goes down now the boat lands onto a mar and the punish
He was there, but it really felt like it was a pretty even exchange all around it took forever for xxs to kill anything
At least all they got the support kill on the TV back in so honestly that was not terrible for xg considering
It's a haste room primal
Which?
Haste room primal is gonna kill somebody there's not much you can do about it
I think they probably gonna react it a little better initially, but they get the cleanup
I mean the networks are still looking fine for them out of this laning phase
Maari did the top once, X-X-S here.
Might just get him.
Getting slammed, okay.
Thou's up.
We need to cancel.
You just not C-FY?
What was that?
You thought I'm going for the Zanglodown.
Golem gonna be dropped.
The fatal ones hitting the two of them with a nice plasma field.
Ringmaster's definitely dead.
A beautiful top.
He will put X-X-S.
Golem gonna be dropped, I paid a bond, sending the two of them with a nice plasma field.
Remastered, definitely better. Beautiful toss.
He will put X-XS right on top of Skeeter combined with the X.
They will run him down. Extreme gaming, picking up the pace now.
That was a beautiful toss.
Every time you connect the link on Razor... er... Razor?
Link, on-spend this game. You're gonna be quite happy.
I don't think the moves are going to open up much for them here.
These early towers falling.
They don't really have a whole lot of space to work with here.
And Amar still needs some farm. He's still trying to complete his Yulceptor, which is a great counter to the Ursa, but
leaves him kind of
AFK and lane, and it's totally up to Maul Rean to make moves happen, but
I'm just going to do it alone against the entirety of Extreme who are making moves as a whole squad
Amar's just watching all of them, just sit bottom. He's completely uncontested. Oh, he's just beating Amar's ass. Okay, show bro
But he is just lapping up this solo xp. I mean this is
Ideal or is a gameplay right here. You just get the farm the lane you don't want to go jungle like it early
So the longer you can stay online the better until you get that battle theory up
And then you're just clearing ancients, especially if this tier one tower bottom is up
You can kind of linger around here even longer. Just keep stacking those ancients clearing them
so obvious position this game is
Incredibly secure right now
Even as a main game
a little bit more secure. Yeah team smoke into his lane that he was already pre-farming. I can't
Extreme assume that like man, Ami is getting too good of a game right now. They got to be ganking him instead. They're gonna be ganking the mars
Take them out and take down the last year one tower man extreme just bulldozing
objectives
And it was set up by the brass from Ami earlier that little go on the Mars got ATF low
He didn't want to go to base and lose XP and then he ends up losing his life battle period on Falcons going after x6
It's oh
Maureen falls a little bit short there on the onslaughts. They see TP's coming in and they just give up on the whole thing
No golem no toss range NTS still looking for something here
He's a little late to the party
Unless Maureen lingers. It's gonna join him here. I love another onslaught to charge in
is the good wheel and this might be an okay fight for that. Got it on the tiny
and a conca followed up trying to blow up. FY got the arena tank into two of them
but the Golden's gonna be dropped inside. Spear back hitting FY, finally they kill
something man. The Falcons trying to make a run for an X on Skeeter pulling back
the most important hero of Falcons. Go out to this carry, turns around stuns,
doesn't actually hit the razor, hits the Golden instead, making a run for it with
an X and minus and the extra movement speed from the pro. But he can't outrun the
And he'll be pulled back to his doom as they have the static wings for the vision and the plasma field for the damage
What is Amar looking for here?
Okay, he got it. He got it. He boomed him dude. Is that Amar? He boomed me.
I can't believe he goes back in early. That's just the steal of his Centaur. This guy just doesn't you refuse to get anything for free
That's a very tough fight for Falcons. The second that boat goes out on the tiny he gets mecked up
That is so much extra
Effective HP to get through there for them such a large body with armor and then spoke rum and then you're getting healed
That's a nightmare to try and commit to do this early when you just don't have that good of burst damage
It's very hard for the primal to connect on heroes in these fights with all the interrupts the spend isn't
That is max power yet
It's a tough lineup to break in this early mid game portion.
Just a stone wall.
I like looking at it more.
I like the way Extreme's draft is set up too because you have all this HP, right?
But it does mean they're a little bit lacking in damage, right?
You have the maxed out plasma fields on the razor.
You've got Kanko, which can sometimes be limited in damage, and your support duo is, you know,
especially if they fall behind in experience, can be limited.
You just survive long enough and fight Razor is going to do a lot of damage off the eye of the storm speaking of Razor
He's gonna get speared back or not avalanche now an attempt at a spear it lands breaks the link and trying to push them in
The wheel it's not even necessary. They've already got the kill well in hand
Understandable though because Falcons have struggled to be able to kill anybody of extreme quickly
And even this situation it looks like he might just be a trade-off as the escape act is only gonna save a mars so much
three fear that the dagger goes through Maureen bumping into f1 trying to slow
him down with the upheaval pulling back in on the x but extreme gaming are no
longer looking for a fight they know they are in numbered with Maureen
joining in this do not want to commit to that because guess what army died
cough solo to the primal bees yeah I don't know what that kill is yeah I have
no clue how that happens but it happened Maureen things I suppose we'll see a
replay and grab them so he's still as old so he just never use oh my god he
just didn't in range oh wow maybe more omni things and Maureen things there but
Valkyries will absolutely take that because that's a disaster bottom if
the first is just reforming that whole time we're doing a roach or something
sure so that salvages that by a large degree now it'll be an unsuccessful smoke
for actually though they'll probably just go in the pit off this yeah might as
well that was the other day I liked about it there's a guarantee gives you
damage any guarantee gives you objective I like he can solo tormentor he can take
the Roshan for you gives you objectives at a faster pace than this actually
line of hole or the stock is on a plug or provide the falcons just don't do
Roshan till second or third Roshan scheme the way spin kind of works
So this first one was always gonna be
XGs here and that means I'll make him now dot uses and rage and not get punished. Are you?
You didn't get the kill on the bottom though
Good thing for snaking it's nighttime
bad thing for sneaking is there is that ward
I was spotting him but uh nothing to say does not venture out to go after him
I think he assumes there's a lot more behind snaking than there actually is
slamming xxx down trying to burst him down
but too many heals man guardian greaves plus a little bit of heal from the warlock
And that's enough to dissuade Falcons from keeping it going.
Fortunately, they didn't blow anything too big there.
Uh, pulverize is a very low cooldown. They didn't use God's Strength.
Do a blink on the tiny now, though. That's kind of the biggest item upgrade.
Ooh, use bottom.
Blade Mail, Kunko, though.
Well, split the damage between three different heroes, and you can get the job done.
Nice, kick off there, looking on there, chasing after Kirit here, another 6 seconds, okay,
Favillage from FY cuts them off, and Extreme Gaming while they may have lost that hook on
the bottom lane, they are securing this top side of the map and should be well set up
for Tormentor.
You can even just play through these gates, keep control of the Tormentor area, if anybody
He shows bottom, you get, you kill them, you defend this tower at the same time.
Especially how healthy this tower is, it's still at half HP.
No way you want to get this up for free in this game.
You want to get a killer fight out of it at least.
Then you can let it go down, and this ward is still up on this camp.
There's been a value ward.
He left that one skeleton.
of course if he had killed that skeleton you'd be dead right now let that be a lesson for
all of you in chat the lesson about greed don't be too greedy don't leave your skeletons
in the closet Austin that's a good one alright it's tormenter time 10 seconds very close
to the Kunkka-Aggs as well. It's gonna be a sick timing for Extreme because they don't
have to beat them easier.
And Rulakshard. Alright. Get some minor imps on the battlefield. At least they're only
better than the tiny shard.
Pink dagger for the Sven. The axe is almost done for the Kunkka that should be flying
out pretty soon here. Maureen is about halfway through to his BKB.
Do you like that XG defended this bottom tower? As much as they have. I think it's really
going to cross Falcon's problems across the map.
Awesome.
It almost seems like Falcons have given up on trying to get towers.
When was the last time they've even approached a tier one to hit it at all?
It just kind of seemed accepting of the fact that they're not going to get any of these
objectives for a while and they just push in waves into towers in form of neutrals but
when they have bkbs i think they will look forward a more aggressive snow place for the
deester ones or the team fight that will lead into some of these towers but there's no point
forcing it right now and you don't have the ability to take a fight into this kunka ags
and the faster bkbs coming out for extreme your timing scheme will be that classic falcons triple
will be Gibi. Do anything now is a little dangerous. They have an Amp damage on Maureen,
so he kind of wants to look for a quick pick off. But I do not think they want to get stuck
in some 5 on 5. Trying to use his Amp damage rune. Little kill team of Largo, Primal Beast.
Smokes behind a mar who finally shows to hit a tower in extreme gaming probably taking that as a massive red flag
That would be pretty much a tower anyway, especially by themselves
Person cannot be alone. So they just vacate that entire area
It's pretty telegraphed. Also was the Mars BKB
reveal
Daring them to go on and down here came still very close
Very, very close.
One teamfight could break this open either way.
Definitely on our pace for a 60-minute nail-biter here, so that would be good.
I thought with the extreme, the way they were taking those early towers, I was like, maybe.
like, I don't know. I don't
know. Maybe maybe they're just
going to like roll over this
game. They get that first
Roshan. They get the torment
term like, All right. You got
the let's move this on to
really closing out Falcon
side of the map, but they have
not done that. They've just
been kind of content for this
like 60 40 map split where
they own up a bit more of the
map than Falcons, but they
haven't really tried to shut
Falcons out entirely. Just
they'll take it. They're not gonna try and force anything crazy. They're gonna get to the item timings.
Both of these teams have a very strong idea that they will win late game when they get there,
almost all the time. So they're not afraid to play it slow. They do have Aume's BKB now,
kind of prompting actually to look for something. Everybody's got BKB going into this fight.
Yeah, and that's so dangerous.
Giving Falcons an opportunity to get these BKBs, they do get the jump though.
Cricket's jump to Al-Amar and Maureen back away.
Poor Largo man.
It's just a frog, you know.
The man's world out here.
Mmm, getting chopped on.
It's Ward scouting Skeeter right now, but he makes the read he's out of there.
Can't catch anything in this game.
It's also funny how similar their ward card between these two teams.
Like they don't know about the time that they've had awards put basically in the same spot.
They know the value zones that all these carries want to hit.
They're just trying to catch big cores, clearing through these ancient camps, or trying to get efficient stacks up, stuff like this.
Maybe jump a more bottom?
Immediately, Yulth, spear him back, and they actually go for kill, bursting down nice and quick.
I can't help but feel like now you're going to get a BKB on Skeeter.
Extreme gaming, I felt like their best chance of really securing a lead in this game was
before the BKBs.
Now, the BKBs are up on Falcons and I feel like this game is like 50-50, you know?
Maybe not 50-50, but it favors Falcons more than he used to.
Well, it's definitely figuring them now.
They're waking up in this game, especially after that completely botched Ursa-Poek bottom.
I thought he was going for something casual instead.
Skeeter able to connect the exact right moment.
Punish XG incredibly hard.
It'll be a later roast spot though, that's good news for Extreme Gaming if they still
want to contest that.
I agree, they kind of missed the strength of this Kunkka, didn't get, I don't think we've
seen a single boat come out after the Zags.
Now Falcons have 3 BKBs up in a lago.
It's gonna mitigate a lot of the Kumpus impact in the fight.
He had a really good early game, but
didn't really translate into much map domination here.
Again, I think the passivity of XG has
hurt their potential a lot here, that's for sure.
Still do maybe fall back on the Ursa scale, but.
Nothing to say looking forward though,
to the late game.
He's going over a really fast nullifier,
which is always a great item against the ringmaster.
That's interesting.
A lot of bad item on Kunko with the extra flat damage too.
He did take high tide.
So he could definitely scale up his cleaves here a bit.
He wants to go that route.
He could also just go with the Shiva's route or something.
I'm going to wait around for Roshan and hopefully that'll give them a chance to wake up a little
bit because as you said like Aume's casual poke bottom feels like everything for extreme
has been a little bit too casual off of the first 15 minutes being so successful.
Roshan's got a roar though and Falcons are absolutely contesting this.
Triple BKBs and a smoke up.
game area not gonna be caught sleeping in the pit though they're gonna smoke up
themselves try and wrap around
staking dagger it's gonna land Falcons know they were already pinging this out
the stream gaming trying to chase and get the spend off of the war they're gonna
get the cost back immediately BKB goes out and Skeeter on the run but he's
being linked, much of his damage being stolen.
There's the initiation on the back lines.
They kill Ex Nova, so no golem for this one still though.
Skeeter is dead.
And he gave up those two cores.
Now, Crick, he's going to fall as well.
Great final, that ward.
Yeah, very good.
Gets killed now.
They killed the other one near the pit,
so that's all of XG's vision, but it pays off there.
Big time.
I bet they're still going to go for a fight, though,
because they still have double BKBs.
It was like a cool read from Amar and Maureen.
They didn't get sucked into trying to save Skeeter.
That being said, if they continue to get picked off,
instead of extreme just doing Roshan,
maybe the opportunity never presents itself.
Maureen and Amar are still gonna stick around,
still gonna hide around, still gonna try and jump inside the pit.
This time it's two versus four,
and they jump in off the boulders into the rock!
Oh, there goes Amé!
The last from XXS,
But he's pretty low here. Can I mark it another round of spells off?
One second for the spear.
It's up now. Who's he gonna go for?
Turned on XXS and Jules.
He tried to make a run for it.
Maureen also trying to get out of here.
Slowed down by the avalanche, man.
It was a super sick hit from Balkans.
Unfortunately, just not quite enough damage.
Did he get the hook at the end?
Did God's work in that fight?
He did. Two bros going in.
Off the rock throw.
They'll tip each other. Oh, that's kind of...
That's so you know now Skeeter will take out fy he's got control the pit with Aume still dead for 30 seconds plenty of time for
Falcons to play off of their revives from losing the initial part of the Roshan fight
And now the gaming are gonna be put in the decision to they try and contest with less heroes
I okay Falcons think they contest is coming they're gonna back out of the pit willingly
That was a smart back they could definitely contest their
This will buy time for Ami to come back up, and you won't have God's strength, so you should just go instantly into the pit.
Though it's gonna switch sides. This is very awkward now.
Yeah, this is weird.
I still think you end up instantly manning up for it here.
Pure XG.
It's very low, third.
Ami just needs to get his spells off. Like, he's just getting chained stunned into oblivion. No ult, no BKB.
It's happening a few times now.
This is going to be really weird because if Falcons have buybacks, which they have buybacks
on three different heroes here, they will have a better chance at winning this overall
fight because of the outpost.
There's a little cause-trick right now, though.
He's taking the fight, going straight up the hill, straight to them, on mark, trying
to block them off like the past.
He's off an arena and pains FY, FY's going to die instantly off a great wheel from
sneaking on that arena. The BKB from Amé largely wasted here. Very little damage done and this is
going to be Falcons taking this fight a hundred percent. There's Amé, nothing to say, just have
to back out. Now I've been thinking about going back here to try and help out that racer, start
putting some damage, immediately speared up. Unfortunately the enrage takes that off pretty
quickly. Go after Crit, Crit's going to die, but here comes Keter with gone strength. Saves
Crit's life and now leans into Amé. Amé, feared back, is going to be chased down on the left-hand
It's nothing to say hunting down by a mars at extreme absolutely ruined in that team fight
There's no God strength this way and they they get broken on the hill by the Mars
Absolutely kited back the tiny goes in hits nothing off the blind jump
Just gets speared to the wall the wheel goes out blocks everybody on that ramp
And then you have to throw the boat out early to try and bail out the tiny
You'd waste so much going uphill there as extreme
You need to be more conservative here and kind of drag fountain you or not pop everything so fast
It's like I'll be thought you know, I've been killed so early so many times
I got to go in and just use everything
And then it ends up hurting him so much here, too
You know, you kind of have to I mean your races in the middle you do get the four-man bonds
I'm not sure what it is. It's
not a lot of mods, but look at
the target split. Can't focus
anybody down without that tiny
lockdown. The brutal outplay in
this team fight. Really was.
Now I want you all to be different
if F Y when he blinks in, you
know, it's an avalanche day on
The wheel doesn't latch.
These blind jumps are...
They're hit or miss, man, but you have to be decisive.
You have to just instantly go.
Well, Extreme did do that.
And we're very decisive.
Fortunately, did not work out for them at all.
And now they're on the back foot
in a big way, 12,000, not worth the four Falcons,
so plus saying this is like an 85-15 game.
Full refresher on this Mars that is terrifying.
Actually, it really had trouble putting damage
through these falcons be gibbies
that has been a huge issue this game
you only really have the urge to do it
Pame has struggled
this entire match i think
it's not been a great game for him
no
you might need to just try and dodge completely here if you're
XG and get the razor refresher territory would be a big scaling point for xxs to do more in the fight
help against these vkbs a bit nothing else is really going to change it that much i mean ursa hags can
bail you out a little bit more
falcon smoking across a lot of heroes down here but it was fyi who showed on the creek wave so he's
the one that will be caught by this smoke move. He's fine taking that death. I bet it
would be better than the Warlock who's carrying the gen. For sure. You're just trying to dodge
in this period you get far more your cores anyway
to get a shot at. Well,
Falcons were so patient about
hitting objectives earlier. Now
they've got the advantage. I
got to take out the rest of
these tier twos first made in
bottom. We'll see whether or
not they're bold enough to hit
high ground off of this tier
two, but they still have another
50 seconds. They could have a
try. I'd be pretty tempted.
Yeah. Yeah. And X, they like the combined power of Tossback and X, especially with the, you know, that X that pierces BKB, you could put it on somebody as they're running away, BKB.
And then if the BKB runs out, pull them back in. Yeah, that's way too stupid to deal with.
especially with potential buybacks on top of all that. Yeah, it's annoying. I do
think you could do it here as Falcon's. I think you have the capability. If you
can find jumps with the Mars because ATF has two arenas, two spears, two
big TVs. That's a lot of firepower to just go in and go on some supports, jump
this tiny instantly. Ex-back and just out of reach from Malween.
Falcons, they were going for something in this bottom lane on a high ground push
but it can pick off. That's because falcons that's kind of the way they roll. It's the way
they've been for two years. They secure an advantage. They secure it even further. They do not typically
go high ground with all five heroes still up on the enemy team. They're very good at building that
advantage though. I guess they're very well practiced in it.
Probably looking for the refresher on Maulrin would be the real breaker here. Hex on ATF
would also be huge. Yeah, Hex on ATF I think is the biggest thing
for me of like why would you even try and fight you already have a refresher once you get the
scythe oh my god that refresher becomes so valued especially against these heroes like
Aume has already had issues by being able to you know get off a detail here in rage at the correct time
they're just gonna force it i mean they have everything they need right now
all they need is a jump it's over you get the right kind of jump but they're immediately
Break through the linkage of the razor and cut him down.
The boat's gonna come through, try to make these heroes tankier,
but they're really not tanky up against Skeeter.
Seth Domei, who has that Enraged should work with,
but now with his Enraged,
he gets completely stalled out by the Primal Beast
and look at Maureen go tossing boulders, blinking forward,
gets the extra catch on the FY,
thanks to Amar and the spear.
Four dead, very easy for Falcons and a high ground push to ensue.
Yeah, that's it, man.
If they jump you, it's over.
How he's taught in the two classic Falcons.
Maybe he thought it taught. Maybe it's a praise.
He's saying, you know, I have learned from the best Mars.
Yeah, the same way he talks about 33 Doom.
Yeah, exactly. It's respect.
Nothing to say all the way behind the tier fours.
And that will be the final nail in the coffin for this one.
Extreme gaming, complete loss of control.
It's not like they were winning this game by massive lead or anything, but they were absolutely in control of the tempo early on and it just kind of slips through their fingers.
I think the more concerning part is one that they did not look crisply. Aume was just struggling that whole game. It's not a well-played game by him.
And two, they just didn't do anything, really. They forced this roach, they get this clunk of aggs and there's no team fighting, there's no forcing objective.
There's no clear game plan as to how to control the map and build the lead, whereas for Falcons, we see this team, they get that Roche, they get like one Ursa kill bottom, and then they just explode this lead.
It's just out of nowhere, you're never getting it back, so to me that's a big difference between these two squads.
Very big difference indeed. Falcons took advantage when they had it and end the game, taking the first game against XG.
It is one of those things a game one when it looks so good for you at the beginning losing it you have to think about how you're going to reset.
That's a question for true gaming and a question I'll pose to my panel later on because right now we're going to break down just how Falcons were able to get themselves back into this game after what was such a phenomenal stop from extreme gaming with everything that they had.
Yeah, I mean, I think it's very it's very good gumption from them and
Good resolve that I haven't seen from the rest of the turner from them
They were able to not freak out too much
They kind of just chilled and farm their items and actually on the flip side
They didn't really force anything. They didn't actually make Falcons out of under any pressure at all
There's this moment here where skitter dies or beside that they were kind of just farming and viving and eventually they just outspilled
Actually in the team plays I think it was UT that said it's like
this is a team or maybe it's because of that loves to go late game both of them
whenever they come up against each other enjoy that later part of the game but
what's gotten XG wins is going late game they've dropped themselves a fast-paced
tempo and they do get that late they get that tempo but they're not able to
fully execute it a hundred steps. XG's just honestly lost in the mid game here
like even this clip right they're walking up the high ground a beautiful
position from Falcons hugging both the top and bottom treeline of this steps
So when FY walks up, he's like, wait a second, where are they?
Uh-oh, now we're just kind of put into a choke point.
So for XG, they had this early game, they had these moments in the army, finishing the game 3, 6, and 2.
After what your conker was able to do for you, I'm expecting him to step them and go,
thank you very much for everything you say, I am now the carrier of the game, let's play Dota.
But his entry to the game was just a random death here, the Roshem death there, and it all just came crumbling apart.
Like you allowed Falcons to kind of weather the storm of the early game, farm everything that Quinn is mentioning,
and then play out just an even teamfight, like who's the better skilled and Falcons run ahead with it?
Yeah, I was a bit surprised because XG, their early game was giga good, like they were in such a good position
and I mean Falcons, they're known for a lot of things, like they're the way they played the mid game
whether it's ahead to like then get the kills or then when they're behind to like stall out the side lanes
be annoying, like sneak around the sides and keep jerking you around, it's like XG, I feel like they lost their purpose a little bit
in terms of like what they wanted to do because like Tee was mentioning I think
with the start they had it should have been a lot better so I honestly don't
know I'm a little bit disappointed with what they were doing there
sure I think Tee you mentioned just there and I hear you love Boatbra, Conker
Boatbra?
Boatbra?
Boatbra?
He's got a yucky's yum, he's a hater
my guy enough to say alright he's had a kind of like a couple toilets right you know
He's like looking at other people's shine, but he's making these moves. He's ganking top a minute or so later
He's ganking bottom then he's gonna be chasing skidder in the enemy jungle go for the chase down one X here
Oh, he's running away because crit wanted to give skidder a little lift Joe then further get another X on him bringing back
No more like this time you're gonna die
So I feel like nothing to say on the Kunko
He showed what the hero can do and if you just had a team that played more aggressive with that type of momentum
You are gonna punish Falcons, but for some reason after all of that
They went and stop and then they just unplugged their kind of keyboards
They clicked around on the on with their mouse kind of doing some stuff hit some creeps
But the keyboard the spells from out of the window that just nothing happened after that
I mean we're not seeing conca that much so you know part of my ignorance around him a bit
But is that how conca can play a game is easy a hero that loves to have tempo early?
Needs to close it out on a timer or if it's like even if we do a fk a little bit. It's okay
I mean you can if pay a little but I think that hero and full it's not a very good here
right and heroes that aren't very good generally need to take that lead and keep going with
it and I think that's really at its core actually biggest problem this game is they clearly had
no clue what they were doing in the mid game to speed up the game and so if you're gonna
play a slow game you need better scaling than that they don't have the scaling and they
also didn't really force any tempo you can see razor gets his B could be here and then
it's like five minutes later they've done almost nothing they've killed one support
They've lost 1k gold league and the Ursa gets randomly picked off.
They just it seems like they aren't really aware or capable of closing out the map
right now with the item timings.
They had Greaves, BKB, Ags on Konka.
They were way stronger and like, you know, you mentioned it before,
they just didn't really do anything.
So if you're XG, I think it's hard to fix gameplay problems in the middle of a series.
And so I think the fix is pick better late game, pick better teamfight and pick heroes
that you can actually scale easily on because they just to be frank,
are not capable of closing out a game quickly if they're going to play like this.
Yeah, I also do think with the position they were in, they could have done, well, a lot better.
Like we're saying, you know, they have the gold lead.
If you find a catch, I understand, like there's a ULZ on Mars, it's annoying for the X mark and stuff like this,
but if you catch them, then your Tiny can stun under and you can actually find some stuff and get these heroes killed.
But if you just do it slow against Falcons, they're going to get what they want.
And even with the like, core to core matchup, that's not good for Sven.
It doesn't matter, because they were just out teamfighting you.
Yeah. There were moments that went on earlier, not just that they were doing well in terms of lanes and moving around.
like we saw with what T was pointing out, this conker being everywhere that he possibly can,
they were trying to have that aggression and find spaces for themselves. They were smoking up a
lot Kha'Zee. Yeah, I mean, I wanted to point out one of their smokes because we saw the kill
already earlier that happens at the end of the clip. But the thing is, I like this early gameplay
a lot because you're already taking over the top area, you now took the enemy mid-tier one tower,
and I like to smoke a lot because even if you don't hit much, you just need to think how oppressive
if this is, four flakas to play against. Razor's in the top area, you take over the triangle,
you've lost both of your tier 1s, and now Amar. He's kind of in just a very bad position,
so this is a good result, but even if the smoke doesn't land, you have so much control
on XG that you can play on after, and I really feel like from this position, it should not
be that hard to play the map.
Now, I agree. I think, honestly, big props to XG Supports. I think they did a lot in
this early game. FYI, specifically, it was like everywhere. They got some really impressive
kills. There was some torrent boat blind with no X where they chain-stun the
Primal with haste. Like some stuff like that that was really big and I think
honestly the the cores of XG need to pick up the burden a little bit like
Ame had a really bad performance this game and I think you need to see more
leadership from the cores because I think the supports they did their job
first 10-15 minutes they were all over the place they were killing people we
need some slack picked up. Jesus nodding along. Yep.
Started the panel with we're ending the panel with struggling and you know
Not over yet. We've got many more points to
It's a road trip going on over here because it was an up-and-down roller coaster on the side of falcons
They lost all of that tier one towers early great smokes coming out from XG
We saw that slowed down a little bit, but they're still trying to take objectives
The first rush, second rush, I believe it was the second rush, is the one that we have to talk about the most, because it was engaged, disengaged multiple times, pick-ups on the side of Falcons, and Amar and Malarine.
I mean, the thing is, you need to respect what the enemy team can do, and you can fall to XG a little bit, but here I want to mainly highlight Falcons.
Falcons, like what you're doing, it's crazy, like just being aware that, because you always
need to think about what can we do, like stop thinking about the numbers, stop thinking
about items, just try to understand, okay the two of us are alive, we have these spells,
if they're clumped up, like we can make this happen, because this is honestly where the
game gets kind of owned, I think for XG if they get this, they can like do some stuff
again but Falcons, they put a full stop to it, they respawn, now they get the kill, then
they have perfect positioning post this fight for the radiant rose, amazing.
I mean, that's where the joint dota is, like, knowing what you need to do to buy time for someone else, right?
Like, they're going in because it's like, if you buy an extra 10, 15 seconds, then it's going to be alive, right?
Other teams there, it's like, you know what, we've lost the map play, we'll wait for everyone to respawn and try and play as five, like,
but they're always going, we can do this because you're going to be up, like, they're always communicating, like, how strong are they at every minute?
At what point as well, because we see the Roche move to Radiant, like, an advantage for Radiant, so down to the bottom,
At what point are you like we can stall it out for that length of time and the other is like we're just wasting time right now
Like we're just sitting on a roach that
Does that question make sense killing an Ursa when he ends the pit is always a win okay?
I'm getting the free ages will just be good
So just stopping him from that is already enough for Falcons to go
We've done our job no matter what we've used and I think this honestly this game and bull also last series
There's teams making a fundamental mistake
Which is when teams are contesting you at Roche you never hit the Roche until you've taken the fight first because it's so easy
To either spam you or play for the steal like we saw collapse do last year's and every other series for all his entire career
Like you you take the fight first you go finding heroes you kill them you hunt them down
You come use you clear out the area you check all your corners. Okay?
Yes, you make sure
and see. This is my house.
You get your house and then you get your own house. Yes, then you take rush.
But before that, you do not hit this big man because the enemy,
they're going to Mallory and Amar you.
Sometimes the BFFs of Mallory and Amar,
they're just going to be able to get it done. Obviously,
there was so much more that went in favor of Falcons here,
whether it was from the dropped or the execution,
but there is a second chance for extreme gaming.
It's a best of three and that's going to come just after this break.
Never thank you so much for joining me. I couldn't help but notice you guys are in the liquid facility
So I wanted to ask how you're enjoying it if it's a fun boot camp
Uh, yes, we choose the liquid boot camp because we had a good experience before and it's really good here
everything the facilities and
Accommodation is very good
That's awesome to hear and best of ones some teams like them some teams not so much
But would you say extreme gaming is the best of one team and you enjoyed the group stage?
I think the best of one games are very punishing and I think we are slower team to adapt so
Maybe you prefer longer games and longer series compared to this
Yeah, for sure. And of course now you're playing alongside FY. How has that been as an experience for you?
just bring back the old days.
And yeah, it's gonna create more good memories together.
Well, I hope that is on the cards for them after Loosing Game 1.
It is a little bit dire though for them and he even said it themselves.
By the way, this ex-Nova interview happened before the series began.
And so to hear him talk about the fact that they like longer games and longer series,
It's almost like tripling down on what we keep saying about this team and the draw for a game
number two really needs to lean into that. That is clearly something they've noted themselves.
Yeah, and it's honestly a bit surprising to me. They understand it so well yet they still,
I feel first picking this razor is not really what they want. We can see the heroes they first
picked. I think the heroes that look for the best for them are this Tiny, this Slardar,
the Shattered Demon. Heroes that scale while they give you the team fight that give you this nice
structure that you want whereas you compare that to this Timbersaw, Brewmaster. I think this Brew is
a hero that's very easily disposable and Timbersaw is a hero that does not give you the team fight,
it's not the typical X-XS initiator and the Razor to me is similar and it's a hero that
it's just it's this carry sort of solo-bolo type of hero and X-XS and I don't think that's what you
want. I mean this you're just describing heroes that like can play early, have a bad time but still
recover right like the other heroes that we're seeing like the Timbersaw or the Razor whatever it's
like you need to have a good start you need to keep going and then when you make one mistake
there's no insurance policy. I think they do thrive when you're allowed to make mistakes with
that type of draft and then lean on some magical moment like a big move from our way or a catch
or nothing to say right but some of the drafts that we've seen from them do feel a bit more
as if they're trying to copy other teams style and it's like that's not your style that's not
how you win Dota. Also while XXS absolutely can play these heroes and we talk about it's hard to
like fix a gameplay of like well our mid like our mid game wasn't crisp in this game I think there
can be like an easier route where you just put people in like their normal type of roles where X6S,
I think he is like, he's the hard stun, he's the one that is going to initiate the fight for you,
who takes the teamfight for you. So maybe you can still pick this Razor, but then maybe you ban
more that it can actually go mid. So I think something that could make it just a lot more
simple for them going into this next game is like find this hero that X6S can do his stuff on,
you know, whether it's Mars, Centaur, maybe it's Tidehunter, Sanking, any of these heroes,
I think it will just make it a bit more clear for them of how to play the mid game.
I definitely agree. I think you have team mentioned insurance and I think XG they need a very sound insurance policy
They need that late game
They need Ahmed with good carry matchup and I think like something like just first picking the Mars instead not not giving it to
Falcons. Yeah, putting your stuff just pick your comfort pick the stuff you're good at right
I actually over years and different tournaments different rosters
They always go back to they pick the stuff that counters what the enemy team has and I don't think they really countered
what Falcons had last game and I think they should go back to that, go back to basics and what they thrive doing.
Interesting to hear that when you guys kind of liked how it ventuated from the side of a champ.
I think they had a better draft, but not for them.
Okay, so on a draft level they did counter, on a team level they countered themselves by countering Falcons by picking the heroes they can't play to counter Falcons.
There you go, I made that as complicated as possible.
I like that.
way. No, I mean, like, I was, I like their draft more. I think you have
Ursa into the Sven, but I will say, like, looking at the stuff what happened
last game, if they play like this, and they have a better draft, they will
lose. So I want them to give themselves the best thing that the midgame that
they can make it easier, which I think go to the comfort of XSS, let him do his
thing. Well, for you guys, that is something that they're gonna have the
chance to do because a game of number two draft is coming our way.
now with Falcons one game up.
That is the reality.
Extreme gaming are staring down the barrel of they're going to have to bring out
something for themselves in a draft.
And what has happened right now in our first phase of bands is they've taken out
the razor, the Oscar and the Timbersaw.
So a lot of comfort for Falcons pick up the Mars.
That's exactly what Quinn wanted.
And an instantaneous response from Falcons to pick up the Kez after
bending out tree slaughter, SD and Queen of Pain.
But the big shift there is of course Viper wasn't that through the pool.
Here we go. Again both teams have ignored it. We've already seen the carry Kez as a response to the offlane mass multiple times
And we've already said to great length our Kez gets to play that lane quite comfortably. He gets his items
There's no real pressure on him. So yeah falcon showing the carry extreme showing the offlane
It's a good response from falcons
But I also think this is still a more preferable like I think XG is very happy with this even though Kez is good against Mars
I think it's still very chill and I like a lot that they've been primal second face
I think this first fate the second phase bands last game they were suited toward razor, but at the end of the day
Razor didn't win his lane and snowball the game anyway
So to me you ban the heroes that Falcons is really comfortable on you ban
They're sort of crutches I think and Primal is definitely one of them. It's Falcons gonna respect
Morphling potentially in the next phase of bands like against Ken's that's often a hero that people look towards but again
There's dispelling heroes meant to buying heroes are a pretty good option against Ken's
I mean, I think they could. Like, it's one of Ame's better heroes. I personally also think that Muerta should be a hero that you kind of want to think about when you grow up against Kez.
I think it's one of the, like, better matchups. But I think for now the supports are also going to be quite important. You see, XG also take out the Warlock.
Because when it comes to Kez, like I don't love playing that many different supports against this hero
Like SD is kind of cool, but this hero is banned out a lot of the time
I think there's other heroes maybe like some dark willows and windrangers. They're kind of chill
But there's nothing that like Giga softs this guy
Just have locked down against Kez, right?
I think we saw Yandex utilize more to support really beautifully against Yatoru earlier
Where it's like once you have a star on a cheap side it's constant things like this
Then he's always thinking how am I initiating he doesn't really want to buy BKB second item
It's normally like a luxury third for you
Kind of playing the limits of your hero with desos and mantis even the Vlad build that's coming into play now
But yeah, I think whenever I see a case
I just want to have every hero or majority of my heroes having a way to just
Stop his mobility throughout the fight. You know, he can die. He's relatively low HP
If you have detection and control
I mean, I think the more to support is really nice, like I think it's not you're not going to beat this early in lane
This that's it's broken and you have Mars against him
Right, so you pick something that can be somewhat stable
And then you have here enough heroes with spells and fighting that in a slightly later early game
You can rotate more numbers and you bring the three or four heroes and you kill it right because I don't like heads
It's super strong in these more number fights. He's more of a sort of 2v2 skirmish or he's very good at that
And actually to be honest, I don't think the early game was much for palm for them last yeah
I don't know if it will be this game either. They made great moves. They clearly have a pretty solid understanding of the early game
There's a fearsome lane problems, but if weaknesses if you bring good fighting heroes
You can teamfight them and scrimmage them very well. Their lane is just oppressive
Yeah, like we saw it also like in the last series
I'm not surprised that the Chen stocks are going up at least a little bit
I think it looked insanely strong in the hands of Malady. Obviously. It's also one of the best heroes
I think that's making can play and I like it against Mars like overall, you know
like the Karna Team fight, you buff up some guys, you're pretty happy.
And Chen also does like, he buffs the attack speed, you also go for the Helmets, smash the
facet as well, so you have the little attack speed aura from him when you suicide it, so
it's just like a fun little combination between two.
And then Extreme, you go for the open AA pick, it's always a scary one, I like it a little
bit more than Nation, we've seen AA Falter into the Chen lineups, I get earlier today.
Look, this could be recency biased, but what is up with the support combo of AA and Dark
Willow?
damage right willow hunts the map always you go like you always in blink and
you're kind of looking for stuff he's gonna utilize that to throw out the
damage you got a Mars as well if you're dictating the game it's gonna look good
if you're not dictating the game it'll look like what it didn't last year yeah
you're just gonna disappear you're gonna go get eliminated from the tournament is
Foul balladel Falcon's both in game 1 and game 2 I feel like they have very cool
bands like in terms of when you think ahead of what they want like they got
themselves a Sand King, 16-17 blind pick with Slardar, QWOP and SF out of the pool.
Like, and the same thing happened in like the last game where they got a primal,
that was pretty nicely protected, so I honestly like this a lot. I think they're
also the best team at playing Sand King, not just because of the tarryings, but
they understand really well what this hero like needs to stay in the fight.
Like a gendered buffing Yop, a ringmaster that's giving you the follow-up, so I like
this Falcon's double pick a lot.
I mean, actually I was cruelly watching the series yesterday, not sure if they saw the result.
I don't go too well for them and like I think these are these are these are fine heroes
It's chill this DK can be flexed to either role although they will have to show where it's going
It's certainly not bad, but I agree
Falcons are definitely doing something they're very comfortable with they're flexing the sanking
It's it's very nice and also something to note is they took second pick because they've been second pick both games and extreme first pick both games
So clearly there's a you know a dissonance between which pick they think is better
I think it's somewhat interesting.
Yeah, I mean Falcons already, like, I think you already mentioned the Willow, the AA, the DK,
they lost earlier, we saw how the execution punished it, Chen, Knorr was by the pipe,
Ringmaster with escape axe, Sanking likes to jump the backline, buying yours or BKB after the axe blinks,
so I feel like Falcons aren't really worried about XG's approach to the game, it is just a matter of,
like, the map setup, what vision are you using, how are you approaching it.
It's not as if it's like a, oh my god, XG, they're going to break the map consistently,
This is really just bad game to take
Like also with sanking going mid. I don't like DK doesn't like punish this hero
Yeah, like you're just happy with SK like even on that was you say the other side around like DK likes eventually hitting towers
It's sankings very good at defending those areas and having those like fights handed to him
Yeah, no, I like when you have 18 pick you want that pick to be sort of a boom Wow pick and this DK is not
What sort of
I look a Sam.
So only one boom in that.
Yeah, just one big boom.
No, no, no.
Okay.
I understood.
One giant boom.
Enormous.
And DK is not that.
He's not even, he's like...
You can't even finish the boom.
Yeah.
No boom.
I think that's a problem because 23 pick is very bad.
It's one of the worst picks in the whole draft because the bands, all the bands lead
up to that and then they immediately counter pick you.
So actually going to this last phase, I'm a little worried.
Is there a world where, like, Lesh or Storm come to mind for XG?
I prefer Lesh personally, just for like the early blink, make crazy plays, open up the
A-winter to feel like they have purpose on the map, A's then also buffing up a hero to
do more damage through the Lesh rack.
I like the Storm a lot.
I just want a hero for nothing to say, like, it's like, I go, and then eventually DK's
like, thank you so much for opening my game.
Oh no.
Oh no.
Every time you say like a fine exciting hero, then there's a tiny.
There's a tiny.
But in Fannis, tiny with AA, you know, the vortex with the crash landing of the tiny,
like there is this like extra little buff up to make tiny feel better.
So there is map player things happening, so it's the archetype that I was mentioning,
but again, mid-tiny win rate, pretty damn like.
Yeah, it's pretty XD.
I mean, if you're Falcons, she'd like, a lot of offlaners look good.
Anyone's that buy pipe I feel like you would be pretty happy with whether some on the Lord
Yeah, I'm the Lord there's pied watermelon. Yeah, that's pretty good
So I think those are like kind of cool
I know they had like some they had appeared at TI what they were on the train that like offline doom giga counters DK
I don't know if they still feel the same way. I will prefer the unload or the tide
But I feel like Falcons can't really go wrong with their pick here either one of those would be very good
You just want to say
or buy it in the land.
Oh, man.
This on the look pic is really scary.
The pipe is so incredibly good against XG heroes.
The Q is really, really good against these high HP heroes.
Pit is great.
They've got amazing team fight.
Tez scales well.
I think Falcons have done really well in draft.
And after watching last game's gameplay,
I feel like Falcons also in a better shape play-wise.
But it has at least, I mean, from what we've asked from XG,
like the problems they had in the mid-game, how to simplify it going into game two, you
have to lean towards them following that same kind of line of questioning that we had, right?
Having the tiny, having like these, like the insurance, like this is not a lineup that even
on the back foot, they have the pick off potential, they have the way to blow things up. Of course,
if they're down 15, 20 K, go into a Falcons' chen, then sure, it's not going to happen,
right? But I'd at least say that XG is moving in a better direction, but yeah, Falcons,
it's comfort across the board for them.
What I do see that XG have is like they have a lot of 1 plus 1 kill combos, like basically
all their cores kill with like one guy, whether it's Ice Blast or like a Dark Willow in a
good position.
I will say that it's heavily on execution, because I would say Falcon's draft is just
better and easier to execute.
But if XG can just like step it up from game 1 and like play this draft to like a really
high potential, there's always a game to be had.
Yeah, I mean, Tiny A is about as good as you can get with Mid Tiny.
Yeah.
It's not saying much, but it is something that's brutal
That ain't that ain't nothing for what tiny deserves
I guess the real question here is will X never hit more or less ice blasts than what we saw in the last series more more
Okay, if the game goes that long yet. I was yeah
Feels like no one's gonna argue against that one extreme gaming whilst there isn't too much belief in a tiny little and a mid a tiny
they do have a pretty good combo for themselves and they're going to need it
with the fact that they're already down one game in this best of three for
Falcons it's actually their first time having to play a best of three to make
it to the land portion of a blast slam so are they going to be able to close it
out let's get on into our game number two
the game, and that's what we
want. Despite these two teams
coming into this playoff series
as six and five. They had a
tight score. They had a similar
performances in the group stage.
One team looked considerably
better in that game. One was
clearly Falcons Falcons who are
a little bit behind early still
managed to take over the game in
the midgame and close it out
the game. They're going to
have a better game. They're
getting slip. Hopefully they've
woken up and feeling better
going into game two. Do they
have a better draft going into
game to every kind of like it
more than their first one just
because the playmaking is a bit
more straightforward that more
stuns to play with the triple
stun core ahead of two high
damaged backliners with a lot of
a week in flight. Kind of hard
to go wrong with that. They
nice way so that seems pretty good flip side I think falcons out drafted them a
little bit just in terms of the matchups and they got this scary underlord pick
they have the ring master box save and Chen against again triple stun cores
that want to go in it's gonna be tough to get through all that you need null fire
at some point this game I don't know I kind of it's the faith here and what
actually got to me it comes down to xxs Mars and how much he can do with the hit
like one of his signature, if not his signature hero,
against what is arguably Snakey's best hero in this Chen.
Yeah.
I feel,
so Snakey told me at some point, he says,
I don't know why people keep giving us Chen.
This was when the hero was like a little more broken
in first pick, but in his mind,
if he gets Chen, the game is over.
They cannot lose if they have Chen.
So there's a lot of confidence coming out
from this guy on this hero,
and for good reason, it fits their play style to AT.
It's going to be a tough wall of sustain to get through for this lineup.
They do have the AA to kind of help punch through it, which I like.
But a lot of it comes down to their jump stunners and what they can find in the initiations.
And Skeeter took so much damage to try and keep the Greek wave out of the tower.
And ultimately, it's still going to push in too extreme.
I like the teams that are doing this, where they start off with a try lane to kind of ensure the fact
They either go for the first blood or they go for, you know, the body block on one or two heroes,
and then the third hero sits and just punishes the carry if they try and counter block the wave pushing in.
There was a period where people did this every game and then it fell off for two years and now it's back.
Probably OG to blame.
Why OG? Oh, because they stack so much early on.
that's what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about the one.
Yeah, I started doing all
these pre lane shenanigans
and making people think about
this only takes one try hard
team to unlaze if I everybody
you know. Okay, speaking on
that you said the drafts for
extreme you almost like to
better this time around
because it was simpler. Is
that ever a conversation as a
team that guys like we're just
Is that ever a conversation?
A thousand percent.
You straight up and be like, man, we're playing like shit right now.
Let's just have some combos.
Yes.
If you're lost in the meta, you're not playing well.
Teams go through boom and bust cycles, right?
And they recognize that.
It's not like you're sitting there losing 13 scrims in a row going,
yeah, we're owning guys, or we're definitely playing well right now, you know?
Sometimes you have to just take a step back and make the game simple,
the roots and then build up from there again, you know, you don't want to be trying to play
these hyper finesse lineups. If you're operating on a five out of 10, you just got to make things
worse for yourself. So this is a very simple lineup, very straightforward. You cannot complain
about this draft. I mean, you can, but not from a executional standpoint.
Okay, but you can't play it on NA teams. Do you think good teams have that conversation?
or well I played on some good NA teams too so yeah those did exist at one point they did
what do you think the tiny sand king matchup goes
and if this who got a favorite sand king oh yeah that sand king is against anything that doesn't
just destroy him in the first three levels and this hero's mega happy once you get those points
at the sandstorm you start pushing away mega farming you're gonna go clear stacks eventually they always stack for the Maureen sinking
So even if the lane is bad you get far if the lane is good and he gets stacks then
He's just an absolute beast. Damn. Maureen not backing down from that cold feed whatsoever
Got hit by the stun combo there and just said you know what?
I don't care
I'm gonna swing on you until I get frozen and all they did have to back away
Of course, they backed away to get a Lotus, so still a good trade-off for Extreme.
I will say I have not seen this Dragonite Hero B2 successful this event.
Yeah, hopefully Aume can overperform with it.
And hopefully he woke up from Game 1, because...
I don't know, this man was taking a nap or something during that queue.
I mean this hero does have more forgiveness to it than Ursa.
Yeah, it's true.
You can't die without pressing your old.
That's true.
Maybe you can, I don't know, that would be next level of grief, but...
You should get pretty farmed here. It's a free-ish lane form.
And very similar game to the first one, everyone's farming. Nobody's killing each other.
The most interesting thing is Skeeter and X-X-S in this back and forth.
Skeeter is constantly trying to breed when X-X-S is going to God's rebuke and then he tries to parry it.
Ultimately they're both farming, so it's pretty hard to man up with Kes against Mars with double destroying.
pretty hard to man up against Kez because, well, Val decided this hero should be untouchable
for the first 10 minutes of Dota.
Oh, big guy.
Once again, it's going to be a laning phase about the Nys more than kills.
Oh, 100%.
I mean, none of these teams care about getting kills in the early game.
They care about farm efficiency scaling up into that mid game.
They're going to keep you the willow top.
Looking at this double bracer underlord, is this a kill?
I don't know about this one.
They are going to have some really good changes on combos.
Amar is just going to turn around and hit Ami as much as he can, knowing that he can't
get a look at the first squad on Ami.
Yeah.
That's bad.
That one about as well as I expected.
You just do not kill this guy fast. You have to sit in firestorm to do it. You had Baird limited man on Aume too
I mean that all goes back every single time they've gone on Amar
He just has been swinging on Aume the entire time and that leads to that exact situation where they get the kill before Amar dies
And all that's up all that little harass on the lane
Also question of does Aume need to stay here as long as he he does
No, like I'm already not going anywhere. He could pipe back and let the supports take the kill. Oh
well
Yeah, you just got me up for dude. I don't know
Okay, I'm back full. It's fine. You're dragon. No, you're gonna farm ancient stacks anyway
Okay, Maureen has a regen rune
There are chances he probably enters this stack right now. Oh very high
It's only a double though. If you were triple, I think you would maybe because it's double
You can just get critters. Critters have to stay in lane a bit too much. Hasn't been able to use the daggers to stack up as much as you would usually see.
The scan from Extreme, they're not going for an invasion, but it is far too late for that.
He's got the region anyway.
He's going to hit the center, I'd say, walk into him. Burrow Shrike straight up on Ex Nova.
A toss away to get him away from the same team. Very nicely played by nothing to say.
still gonna chase after nothing to say they'll need some help like grenade
cold feet hoping nothing to say trying to juke inside the pit to get away but a
first strike is back up and it hits him that'll be it nothing to say falls and
if anything these supports trying to stick around to help nothing to say just
means they might die as well another birth strike up in five seconds combined
with a sandstorm that fly is dead as well okay
Valins they have the lead this time around that's for sure that's an absolute
disaster and that is one of the biggest regen runes I've ever seen in six minutes. I mean,
cleared through two stacks, he's just running at him, regen'ing up that entire sequence.
There's no turnoff potential there. You can't TP in a little five martyrs to salvage a bad gank, so
that is just a completely botched contest from XG here. They are now significantly far behind
in this early game. This is not the lead you want to give to the Maureen Sand King. I've seen this
before. Getting some TI PTSD right here. How long do you think that lasts? TI PTSD. Your
entire life it never goes away. So he's just been accumulating it year over year. Probably
I mean, at what point do you become too debilitated as a player, like half the scene you've lost
TI against, you know?
Well, good news is a lot of the guys who lose TI against retire, you know?
Man, she never just even helps.
Unfortunately, I don't think Falcons are at least, you know, Amar and Malrin.
I don't think those two are retiring anytime soon.
The problem is, honestly, this squad has just been unlucky.
Every time he's about to win TI, there's some generational team with some generational
off-laner.
Like, first it's OG, stupid said, you know, like, okay, whatever.
It was first-generational switch from talent, like, nobody saw this coming, you know.
Then their spirit, they have this like random collapse dude with this stupid Magnus.
It's always some Magnus off-laner too.
It's like okay, whatever there's two two generational teams of two generation players can't happen a third time, right?
Yeah, generations don't happen that fast. No, there's no way it's gonna happen a third time. So he's just gotten unlucky, you know
fourth time
Surely
It honestly if I'm actually I'm trying to scout whatever
All players are up and coming playing Magnus and pubs right now shut that career down like buy off the contract and put Benchard
for you. They could tie up some
Western player and benches.
This one's for you.
You take it out of Rame's salary,
you know? Oh, 100%. That's money.
We'll see if Falcons wanted to
fend this. They do have haste
through the ball. He's through.
Yeah, this is going to be nasty.
He's certainly going to run down
somebody here. The wheel, quick
combo. X success is done, though.
sinking very good vessel it's all the strength course got the top tower as
well actually don't know I'm gonna make a third power and alright it's an illusion
room he can't do anything with that can he
wow maybe can dispel some sports bills here
brambles, cold feet. If they try and gank him and he gets away because of this looting room, just tap out.
Eater. Oh, nice state there from Crit.
But it wasn't enough. As much HP as that tonic gives, there's still too much damage from this trio.
There's certainly extreme gaming, as he said. It's going to be pretty straightforward.
They have a lot of damage early on between this trio of Dark Willow, Tiny, and Maaren,
especially when the Willow gets to level 6.
Just wait for that A. He'll use one creep off of it.
Maureen's gonna take the tower though.
That illusion rune helped him take the tower, didn't give the A.A.6 kind of influential.
He's very close to messing with it.
He's giving the 12 minute power room. He's giving way too much out of every single power room.
I think the next one's coming up or what, invisibility arcane room?
No, it's amp damage next.
Another amp thing.
You gotta get the amp damage next. They're smoking this tiny up.
Phase boots you can get in there and you avail. So this is a guaranteed kill on anything they find.
Can you connect? You gotta play the tree line well.
This is a really really tough kill to get especially since they have no detection
That is an impossible kill to get okay. I mean you're playing a sinking and test you do not carry detection. This is a
Little sus not a lot little sus here. They got me just one shot him though
No, Chandi you get off the bail
and you have put your hand next to the guy, this is all the way old up.
I'm losing a little bit too much HP here.
He's gonna kill him if he gets hit by the way.
Oh, he hit him, but it wasn't enough damage.
Oh, that would have been so sick.
Okay.
With the help coming out, they caught him on the firestorm.
Amar picks it up, and now they've caught Xnola in the corner.
Ah, gee, wow.
Okay this this this might be a 25 minute game we're looking at. What an outplay.
Critch is toying with him down here. He's even gonna get the tower deny. A perfect sequence
from this ringmaster. I got a bunch of clean damage on Underlord now. He's building up a
Yule's first item. Instant smoke play. They have the Vessel Sanking and the smoke play. They're hot.
I'm on top of all this shit.
Come on.
Tommy.
Being run down a bit, takes some damage.
It's fine.
Support's coming in to help him out.
And...
But he's forcing this DK off the map.
They're taking the ancients away.
And the smoke move is still coming in.
Can absolutely connect here.
They should kind of know about the smoke move,
but maybe they don't know it's this close.
They're out of silence,
of the shadow realm first that is not really well executed there from palchins
top to get the next one out of the singing bling
one last time because
three
four
five
five
four
five
five
five
Create some space if you're actually very close to tiny blink as well. It would be a big item for them
That is full pipe for a bar
Cruisin as a huge item in this game now there goes all that kill threat for extreme
Well, make stream gonna have to sit back and wait for I don't know what armlet on Aume,
but it feels like humans need to get to DKB.
They can still go for these fast skills because they have ice blasts, especially as Falcons
are split up around the map, which they have a tendency to do that.
I mean, look at them right now. They're playing five different parts of the map.
This is how they prefer to play.
Basically, farm out the entire map, maybe give up a kill or two, whatever,
but you hit your core item timings and then you group for some big fighter objective with that.
Then you go back to the efficiency game.
This time you have the fiends gate that can always come in to bail some hero out
that's pushing a lane aggressively.
So, even these random supports that are showing, you know, like crits showing bot
He's stacking up ancient camps right now. This is mega efficient for him
You could smoke kill this guy, but if there is one hero around and then the gate comes in it's
Can be a little spooky to invade these areas
But you're gonna have to play aggressive this game with the core blink daggers tiny blink is online the Mars blink is very close
Gotta start looking for some clutch pick offs here
And just watching snaking's chin
it goes they really
He's got confidence in it for a reason now like he moves back to take the wisdom shrine
But he leaves one of his creeps the hellbear smasher behind and he drags the creep wave to Amar while Amar is farming neutrals and
Then now he's pushing out that lane while Amar is farming up all these neutrals kind of safeguarding any move that goes to Amar
They kind of have to this weird situation with lanes always pushing into them
You're just getting giga bad at the same time taking is incredibly good at lane and map manipulation
That's why his chin and enchantress are
Incredibly high win rate for this squad
He also likes farming and he likes scaling through utility. So it's basically just the perfect hero for him
Yeah, man was a core player in the first half of his career. Oh
He found you know what like the off lane is just maybe you just get more farm if you're playing five-position chin
Which a lot of times he has eclipse many cores by playing this chin
Sanke blink oh my by the way, and you got he's currently shielded and our team room. Yeah, this is nasty
They just give every power enough them all reen
Whip will stop the TP out and extreme I
I don't know man it just kind of almost lacks a day's goal in their approach to
this series. Very quiet series from them. I still
expect it to ramp up a little bit here with the blinks online. Definitely have
capability of taking some fights and looking for some big pick offs. They
always gives you that capability. It's just farming man, they're just chilling.
watching all they hit creeps while Falcons do whatever they want and kind of
seems like the call was they have to wait until BKB on Dragonite which gives
up a lot of ground to Falcons but you know Falcons kind of did this to
extreme in last game they weren't down as bad as they were but they did kind of
accept 40% of the map to farm up to their their triple BKB timing
I'm is extreme doesn't seem to be nearly as good as
Valkins and that situation of the say is working towards the BKB
I'm not even sure effects excess is going to be able to get one
The bigger issue for them is they don't have a farming support both their supports are very kill reliant
They don't shove ways very fast. They don't farm mutuals. We're looking kind to do it a little bit
It's not what she really prefers doing at this point, so you're just going to lose out on the team network overall.
And then when you get to your core item timings and you take the 515, you're not going to have as much farm on the support,
you're not going to have as many utility items behind your cores. It makes a massive difference in these games.
So that's the portion I do not like in this trade-off for XG. If they had a...
If they had a farming support that was taking waves and keeping up with what this Chen Ringmaster doing,
I would feel a lot better about their position and just scaling into some PKBs here and then ignore a lot of the magic damage
Out from Falcons. I think that is a fine approach.
I think that's honestly a big difference between
Jin Q and FY on this team.
Not necessarily talking about
Player skill diff I'm saying in terms of farm priority and I don't think f5 takes that much farm
He doesn't clear a lot of camps or stacks. He doesn't really push lanes too much
He's kind of a killer. He wants to go fight. He wants to get pick offs and
These down times when nothing's happening. It's just it's a massive difference
Whereas I think Jin Q he pushed a lot more waves especially that ti was a helmet on meta
He was the one guy on this team by an elbow
you know taking those extra waves getting in the deep farm and that makes a huge net worth difference over the course of these
kind of more static games
I've watched I'm little my camera is just sitting on FY before you even started this it's been sitting on him
He hasn't hit a single unit. Nope in three minutes. It's just he's just wandering around the map
I mean this guy grew up on a smaller map
You know he didn't have this big map with all these extra neutral cams
So, you know, in his mind, he feels like he can't hit any of these because, you know,
he's a support. He's just supposed to run around and look for kills and stuff.
They're finally gonna make a smoke move here. It is extremely deep.
And it is going to find its mark on the take-iest hero of all though, but they have this ice blast.
Can they cut through the pipes and bring him down with a bad woman?
Looks like they do escape acts, but he's gonna take out either way.
But now here comes the rest of the team, Maureen in with the epicenter right on top of X-Nobah.
to go down first. DKBM on
these trying to fight through all
this. Nothing say Adelanche on
two heroes. Skeeter. Can they
stop Skeeter from hitting this
dragon? I think there's out of
here. They're gonna leave on
they behind. Nothing to say says
I did my combo. That's all I can
do for you, brother. And why
he gets a kill before he goes
down, finishes off Maureen
actually ends up not as
terrible for extreme as I
thought it was going to be.
That's a way better outcome
considering they're fighting
right outside Falcon's base in
a four on five. There's no
There's no Mars in that fight who's such a large component of their sustained team fight
Shows the power of the dragon IP to be able to sit in a lot of that damage for a long time
Yeah, he eventually gets brought down, but he tanked so much
Over the course of that you get multiple combos off your supports are able to contribute their high single target DPS
In a good fashion
Underlord provides no real value here
But this zanking is a menace without the ability to ail him
He just gets healed so much in this fight. Look at all the heals going into him. Every time you're getting him low, he just gets pumped back up.
Chen heals. Solar Crest, you know, block. Extra Lotus is getting fed. Some strong Mantonic. This Ailt is so important to what actually you want to do in this game.
So it could be a nice timing here. Oh, what a nice blast. Oh, what a nice blast. That's crits down
Unfortunately, he dives to the tormentor rather than the ice blast and the tormentor. Why does it work that way? Yeah, I know right?
Like there's no other damage that works that way, right?
There might be a situation where tonight's worth that way
But that's mostly considered out of bug if anything
For some reason those Tormenter can just override Ice Class threshold.
Who knows? Look at Tor's wall. That's a big kill if you get it.
You cannot get it, not getting it.
There's that Underlord Agz already online
for a Mars. You're gonna have to start thinking about that global capability.
However, XG, they kind of weathered the Storm and now they have triple core BKB.
This is a reverse script from last game.
I honestly didn't think they were going to get there, but that that smoke deep in right they they traded off two for three
It wasn't that bad, but the what happened afterwards was Mars and tiny
We're both able to farm side lanes while Falcons were kind of struggling to get out on the map again
So they got a lot of farm off of you know that fight and what happened after that fight and they both got to their BKB
So they could join Aume in this
triple golden god scenario
They're fighting a lot. The three-course machine are definitely fighting more than these
Falcons' cores. It's just the support difference that might push over the edge, but you gotta
be a little worried for Skier in this game. I don't know if Kaz is his best hero in terms
of just fitting his playstyle on the team, and he went this Vlad's deso build into Yasha.
It looks pretty fragile at this point. I don't know if he could just enter a fight
man up and not die from all the random AoE gunk.
Yeah, if you want to get to BKB, it looks like he would die to any avalanche toss ice blast combo.
Nothing to say.
That epicenter ripping through the shield room combined with the wheel that gets up to BKB now.
The terrorize goes out, X-XS, oh, beautiful ice blast!
Outside the ice blast, can they stop these heroes?
The escape back keeps Crit alive with a bro strike, gets Maureen out of there now.
Crit finally falls, they're going to go after Amar here.
He's trying to get through the
first ground will go off in
time. It does not. He gets
through the gate. An extreme
gaining left without much to do
here. Martin go too far away,
so he can still kind of rejoin
the team. But extreme. I mean,
as beautiful as that sphere was,
these heroes are simply too
tanky. I was a great usage of
the fiends gate. He escapes and
he pitted the tiny. He's
trying to get through the
escapes and he pitted the tiny that Maureen was going on.
Mm, super heads up play from ATF there.
Gets value out of both sides of that fiend's gate.
Skeeter gets to come into the fight last,
which is amazing for him with this build.
Just dealing DPS, cleaning people up and,
I feel like I'll be able to just spend this whole fight
sitting there hitting people, but nobody's dying.
There's just too much sustain.
He needs some more damage items.
If he has Daedalus or MKB,
that fight can look a lot different.
Of course that's a massive amount of gold,
but he just doesn't have the big damage I had to mull on yet, and that's a tough way to start it for XG2.
You just lose so much impact from the tiny U.S. to retreat out.
Maul ring, he gets the burrow out here. That's a huge deal. If he can't burrow strike out of that arena,
he doesn't have it up. He dies in that arena, and this fight is very XG favored, for sure.
very close in a lot of regards here.
I don't actually feel too bad about how that fight went.
Again, they're not to the DK damage item yet.
That's the kind of team fight they're looking for.
They just didn't have the DPS to punch through the HP
right now, but that can change.
So if you're Falcus, you have to worry a little bit
about giving DK as good a fight as you gave him
in that situation.
Yeah, I feel like in many ways,
some of these fights are not going,
They're going like quite badly for Xtreme and they're still kind of weathering through.
Look at this ice blast play, though.
Tried, but failed.
What a fast move from Maureen to get out of there.
Oh, nice attempt.
But yeah, if we ever see a fight where Xtreme gaming or starting at like killing the backline
supports immediately or jumping the kez and blowing him up, right?
That fight started with Tiny almost dying at the start.
And then they're mostly hitting the two tankiest heroes in the same king and the underlord
Gain up to top lane
xxs forced to use his bkb for fear there was more coming
Casual poke with the bkb use the other just to go straight for Roche
Very nice for Skeeter. You can get natives here
Yeah, well again point to the network differences game is all the support staking
just crushing an axe on this Chen. That can be a passive. Very good Chen axe game here.
60% magic resistance, kinda crazy with the extreme line up. Nice blast that almost snatches away
the Roshan kill, but both the Aegis and the Bounty will go to the Radiant side. The deep
up muti is also huge here because this is a chainstone lineup. You go in with one guy,
I can start channeling eggs on that dude can't chain study it. It's a combo breaker, essentially
Yeah, yeah, it's very nasty for what actually you're proposing. So this support network difference
It could come into full effect here
These two saving supports. Well, this is gonna be an interesting move mass smoke play
Four-man smoke through the gate to get behind while xxs baits in Falcons
the game. They're going to
get a little bit of a chance.
Oh, actually, they find
hopefully Falcons have backed
away from that push at just the
right time. But if they spot
Maureen, they see the sandstorm
they should be able to catch
him here. They execute this
wealth lead off avalanche
Dragon Tail. A little bit of
overlapping and stuns there.
It allows Maureen a chance, but
for a strike still on cooldown
as it comes up. It's too late.
Damages done and he falls.
We're trying to save the A
out there in case another fight
broke out. That's good. This
but you gotta throw one of
get in this game. It's high level, he's dead for a little bit of time. You didn't use any
BKBs so you can continue to hunt aggressively here, look for some towers with this Dragonite.
Closing in on MKB, that'll be the big ticket here for Ami. These late game Dragonite damage items
where this hero becomes really scary.
Pagantail's stunned, Krith, nice push back there with the psychic headband.
Beautiful stuff, they terrorize misses, and he gets away.
No way, man. Dude, Krith is styling on them.
Supports are so hard to kill.
man does not feel like XG are behind though let's see
falcon's got this Aegis but what have they done during this Aegis period they've kind of just
run away lost their sand king dodging on the map they have BKB now so they had BKB in two and a
half minutes of Aegis I expect that to change I expect falcons to start getting pretty aggressive
and fact skater is going to solo hit this top tower disguising the fact that falcons are making
a three-man smoke move towards mid. Nobody shows though stream gaming very passive on the map,
giving up that tier two top, giving up any pressure on mid.
They also have Chen X. We'll look out for that in the next fight. It could absolutely ruin XG's
wambo combo teamfight if snaking can get a good position.
That almost feels like extreme. The best thing they can do now is get a toss back,
right just a kid a hero out of position that it can't be bailed out by the
escape back to buy the Chen eggs you spear back as well so between those two
she'll be able to reposition somebody jump on skater chain it escape back goes
off alongside the pipe though it actually saves the ages skater he's gonna go back
in after all that enforcing all mays BKB still hits him with a lot of damage
though and extreme just gonna have to give this up with the BKBU a lot of damage on Aame it's
going to be a tier two another one for Falcons that's where I think you have to toss or spear him
in yeah get that kill without the saves going off they don't want to blink in to do that though
because they're worried about getting pitted but that's what your BKBs are for maybe you need some
four stabs in this game so you can hold on to those a little longer because I think you do have to
to kind of look for these disjoint plays.
You don't have Bloodsport, you took Victory Feast,
which is also an interesting consideration.
To me, this might have been a Bloodsport game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It really makes it difficult for Falcons to try
and bail out that target, you just arena spear,
or it forces the vision to come out of the blink
into the arena, something like this,
but it always buys you at least a second.
It's not instant.
Sometimes that's all you need.
Well, like a ringmaster is the best hero
for it to be used against, right?
So he can't escape back.
But a couple of things.
One, escape back is low range.
So sometimes the arena just blocks you out anyway,
even if you can't see.
But also he has spotlight.
So he can get in his own vision inside of Shria the arena.
Like I said, it's not guaranteed,
but I guess it looks a bit interesting
just against their lineup in general.
Maybe it's too low value.
BKBs are coming out for Falcons now.
And another shard. This one for Skeeter.
So XG saw Tormentor go down and they're still smoking to this bottom corner.
It's not an odd time to make this play because who is gonna be there?
After you assume all five of them were a tormentor.
or debuff immediately. You've got the little 15 town on the ringmaster.
Well it's going to come down to who could scale their tricor better.
Do you think XG have better odds this game?
They can kind of scale the Mars in a similar fashion to what we saw in Game 1, where you
have the refresher hex, will be the exact same build up.
It's always pretty terrifying in the Ultra League.
DK can continue to scale up here, and go for like satanic datalus or something.
Just be an absolute beast.
I always worry about the Sanke going into these types of games, but it does seem like
Maulrin makes this hero work in late game situations more than a lot of other players.
And yeah, I'm not worried about it. He's got so much farm that I think San King continues to scale up, right?
Because he has so much farm that he's going to continue 10 minutes and then 10 minutes from now
He's going to hit his level 25, which is another big spike form with the epicenter pulses
So I'm confident that I am less confident with extreme because of this whole refresher site situation
I just don't think that that's going to be as effective
they're jumping again the backline or they're jumping the Kez and so far from what we've
seen from the fight we haven't seen that happen a single time right it's kind of them always
going on to these these big tanky boys and the Sand King and the Underlord and I think
that's the exact kind of heroes that actually are good against the the Mars heavy utility.
I think if there's a way they can play around that
Ultimately, you just have to go in together no matter what
When the tiny and Mars going you can't play for the destroyant. We talked about that
If you just go in together with all three cores
And that guy gets boxed
You're mega sad yeah, yeah, so that is that is a scenario that cannot happen if you're extremely here
Which if I'm crit and I'm thinking about that which he is
He's just never gonna show in the fight. You don't even throw spells
You just you let the jump happen or you jump them and you just hide until that moment appears
Because it's such a got you card
Got you
Got you
Okay, okay
Checking my band smoke up before it. They go through the gates considering the tormentor was taken
to
Smart play because you know decent chance that there's some sort of vision down on the other side of that gate. There isn't though
Scandals the radiant triangle
So she kind of know they're there, but this top way going in it's getting pinged by Falcons right now
Double-countable wave no one's showing
Smoking themselves get a haste rune and you jump off of that extreme gaming not ready to play for the power rune spawn
That could have been that opportunity spent like that setup is dream for you know spear back toss back any of those
This radiant ward could destroy them. It's just out of century rain God it is
He's going to get the vision, get the epicenter initiation,
on X-XS, trying to peer back into the wheel,
get off the BKB, refresh.
Spear goes out before he dies, Amé.
To throw in some damage in, but what is he even hitting?
He's hitting an underlord, and you
could see it's doing nothing, because Snake King was channeling
that entire time, saving his allies, healing him up,
making sure they take no magic damage whatsoever.
Amé now in a fight for his life against Skeeter,
and it's not a fair fight whatsoever.
Toss up of the air onto Skeeter, and he turns back
and away a little bit.
with the satanic is keeping himself up actually he's he's playing through these
heroes with the jump back in from nothing to say in the buyback from xxs
they had the power to push through if only they could have finished off the
underlord it would have been a dream situation for extreme taking out three
cores still though with the buybacks they take the fight and now they can take
roshan army versus the world just dealing all the deep sitting in the middle
that fight the entire time he's the last to potentially go down falcons pay a big
price for it. Lose gem as well. This is a dream scenario for Falcons. You have an amazing
ward. You get the jump. You basically take X and sets us out before he gets to do much
of anything, as this axe prevents the spear from latching ATF too long. He gets boxed,
but it looks pretty good for Falcons here. Yeah, there's no damage during that. The bar's
buyback is too impactful here. You're gonna come in after BKBs are gone and just have a
three second arena. He gets the TP outpost so he's here pretty fast and this arena just
steals the deal. You get the extra boost from the kill on Skeeter, gives extra heal to everybody here.
Yeah, that really was the biggest thing that was missing, right? If they get an initial kill
for Extreme off that victory feast, it's such a big boost, right? It's a nice 30% max health
heal and 20% attack damage. So that adds a lot to somebody like this Dragonite who is, you know,
We can see he was struggling to put down these heroes early on in the fight.
This should be a clean ages from it. Scaling up quite nicely here.
He's dealing some damage, man. And I kind of like the A-Lin for X-XS.
I think he could have gone another damage item or scaling it, but he just doesn't want to get jumped to die first
Like we saw in that previous engagement
And when you're full utility like this
There's not nearly as much of a downside with the on-disc
Those put all of your eggs into the Dragon Knight basket.
If Aave somehow messes up or goes down early, the fight is just toasted.
Yeah, they do no damage.
Because everybody else is doing magic damage and they're fighting again into that pipe,
into the Aghanim Scepter from the Hand of God.
You also just can't out, it's just a signup really.
They have Firestorm, they have Sandstorm.
You can't just sit in those spells over the course of a long fight and win through attrition.
You have to deal the damage here and take these heroes out of the engagement.
Did you make up the ages being taken by nothing to say?
I think this is...
They want him to go in and find some Tossbacks
and not be afraid of getting pitted when he goes in to find that.
Gives him a lot more aggressive potential to look for the toss initiations that destroy it out of the ball.
I think it's actually it makes some sense, assuming Aume doesn't die.
Great, he's playing some serious behind enemy lines here off of his two different wards, one of them spotted by FY's jam.
Another person who is going… a neon disc.
Something amar?
How'd he get that toss back?
Could not get it.
Somehow, he wasn't close enough.
He saw him stutter step for a moment, clearly he was trying to get a toss off there, throw
them up the high ground. Some big boy on big boy action right there.
BKB tiny versus BKB underlord.
Where's the tree? Everybody having the same reaction. They're watching that last
fight and they're talking about this dragon. That does no damage. Can't kill
anything. And then all of a sudden extreme end up winning the fight.
and
three fair did cost xxs a lot to do that is the most not worth Cornell almost behind the stream was the TV is on
like they put all the eggs in the Dragonite basket and the basket is full
if you can't put any more eggs in it so no you can always jam a couple more eggs
and mmm moonshard eat nags trade out your treads for refresher trade out
armlet for yeah but those types of finishing returns right like the moon
for this reason why nobody eats moonshard until like super late into the
game, you know? There are no diminishing returns for Amé. I mean, yeah, he can swap out the
Transfielder Daveless. He is actually missing Daveless. Such a butterfly instead. Interesting.
I disagree with that, but we'll see. Tossback. Avalanche Ice Blast. The guaranteed stun of
Avalanche is so disgusting with a tossback like that
It's pretty good
Pretty good. That's a nice pickoff
No buyback on this on the board a lot of time to run the map. I'm gonna get in close to 25 as well
It's making a monster his hellbear scattered out the power rooms. They got an amp damage on Maureen
That's nice. That is really nice here
still kind of need that refresher on the same game that ultra lake in punch
actually controlling this game they're still down 10k
doesn't matter they push forward still have ages 10 seconds will expire here
mass TP's back from falcons looks like they actually want to take this four
versus five this could be scary like if they didn't feel if they didn't want to
defend this they could just stay down on the map right give it up a lane of
barracks because there's no way a mark can be here but they actually backed up
and extreme will in turn will also back up Zages expires they are not willing to
risk a buyback from the underlord
I'll propose this question. Is this game XG saying our idea of how to beat you is to
just steal your style of lineup? Well, after losing TI to them, kinda have to do that right?
That's what I'm saying. It's just they've lost so much of their screw it. We're just
to play your line of against you see if you can be you know and we and we're just a better team
by execution team right now so we're just gonna mirror you and remove draft from the equation
you know get get draft out of here we pick three stun tanky boys you're gonna pick three tanky
boys and we'll just meet you there and we'll see who wins so far as you know they tell us how
I hate to draft like A.U.I.
Well, I don't know if you say that.
But that's a good reply.
If we went to some sort of true site,
we see the translated text and it says,
and it's not a way you need to draft like A.U.I.
Oh, man.
Some memes will never die.
I can believe what you're putting forward to me, though,
just because the way that I've heard players talk about
about other players style. Falcons is definitely one of them. I definitely see them like they
they talk about your brain dead to Australia. You can't kill them. You know, like same day
with same way they talked about Tundra and like the Wraith pack stuff. Like they they
love to be able to talk down how the enemy team drafts and say that it's so easy to play
so so stupid. You know, anybody could do it. So then they say, Why, why not us them? Why
It is a viable strategy, it should just mirror your opponents and then make them beat you on skill.
Often it's difficult because they're better at playing those kind of lineups, but if you're confident in your teamfighting, it can be super viable.
Here we have Falcons taking the fight to have the refresher sanking.
That's an and versus Mars.
How do you want to jump?
No.
immediately dropping Ward Sentry on low ground.
She does scout out some of these heroes, spotting the dark willow, s-y.
Little opposition here, needs to be able to get a jump.
He's got the aim on this though, to buy him a bit of time with the Yulz after alongside that.
X6Sanix trying to hold back these heroes, got a spear onto one, but Skeeter was left through.
And he manages to bring down the dark will.
The Ice Blast really doesn't hit anything there, X-Novel without,
but Maureen still get a teepee away, despite not having the Ice Blast debuff on him.
I mean, well, nothing to say BKB plot as he tries to push forward and catch more of these Falcons heroes
They don't get anything
Falcons resetting and Maureen that TP back. He's now rejoining the team
Well, so they got nothing they got nothing how
How do you get nothing there?
That's our little didn't did any part of that fight look good for extreme. I didn't think not really know
Alchir just went in, they popped all these A on this, the epicenters are going out, and
then everybody just popped BKB and they kind of walk away.
Yep.
And FY dies.
Double 25 for Amar, he's now got the extra .4 seconds of pit.
Very good talent.
Everybody's used refresh on that play as well.
Including the Tiny who ended up going for one who also has 25 for a double pause.
Yeah, I didn't see what nothing to say it it during that fight, but
I think he really hit anything
And then what he uses a refresher for
Well, he popped
Combo plus BKB when the epicenter went in and tried to do some damage
But there's a lot of sustain in this lineup and then he went in later on
Kind of towards the end to try and find some of the supports
He's just having trouble getting around his pits
Again, if you take fights on these stairways, on these chokepoints, into double triple pit
with the gate getting thrown aggressively, then it's just a nightmare to maneuver and
try and stick on targets.
It protects Falcon's support so much, so it's kind of impossible to find them.
It also seems like Amar just casually starting fight sheaves, walking into them sort of thing.
There seems to be so much chaos that extreme gaming,
they cannot seem to get around the big boy,
you know, starting the fight.
Got him on the pick here, nothing to say.
Reflex of BKB,
too afraid of, you know,
burrow strike epicenter to come or something.
But that leaves BKB on cooldown.
He's gonna have to refresh if he wants it here.
Oh boy.
Quick amp damage for Aume though.
Big pickup spawns at 48 minutes.
That can make a world of difference, but can extreme use this amp damage in this limited period of time
Falcon taking back
You either have to blind go up this hill, which nothing say seems to want to do so concrete a big pick up the unviscose off
But it looks like they've still got him well in hand out of position with the site advice
And they just cannot see this
Why is he not dying quickly with the
Initiation it's ex Nova ex Nova
not able to get off anything good here. Mew on the pit goes back in and Skeeter
taking the fight to Aume. He doesn't care about the end damage. One bit with the rest of the BKB.
He's trying to finish Ruffles. He's out of here. It's the Dragonite! Notha's the Kes!
And that is the death of Aume. Skeeter just bans up for it and he can take the
fight against this Dragonite. And that's not terribly surprising. This
Dragonite is beginning to peek out here. Notha to say. Trying to get the blink off.
Couldn't do so. Nothing to say. We'll just take out the creep wave where he can, but
You had another death for extreme on this Roshan fight
That is a disgusting
death summary
for this dragon knight
We can click on it, but he got a freaking kezd man
That is the definition of I got kezd right there. What is that?
That is so stupid. That's not okay.
Shoto aside, just absolute demolition.
He gets so many hits off because he could just sit there repeatedly marking, repeatedly get the crits.
I was wondering, he just doesn't take any damage. Why is Crits so tanky here?
He's armored up by taking it. He starts doing the ice armor.
The fact that he doesn't die for a while and then snaking gets off his ultimate and only channels it for one second.
like it wasn't it wasn't the hand of God you know he's just so much armor and then this fight is
just you cannot win the man fight against because there's just no hope dude he's getting bash he's
getting crit the toss did not help no that was in the pseudo brief toss not god i don't know if he
had some panic up but it was very close it's a long duration bkb for sketer
He's here now at 0.5 so he's got the extra crit strike on the Shoto side.
This hero's so stupid sometimes.
Yeah, so stupid.
Stun on stun.
Takes no damage.
I'm taking a whole lot.
Tear Rises, Skateback goes out.
They still have the Hand of God as well from the chin.
They will push Falcons back, but for how long?
Falcons still have plenty of time to go on this ages.
I mean, I'm not, this is not a critique.
But this Dragon Knight build seems like it lacks some punch.
And I'm telling you, man, the day, he needs a Daedalus.
He needs Daedalus or Bloodthorn or something,
because Swift Blink, Butterfly, yeah,
that seems cool on paper, but Skeeter just buys MKV.
You lose your evasion factor.
He has insane attack speed, he has Flair's photo too, but he doesn't hit for anything.
He's hitting for 400 flat, there's no crit bonuses or anything, and he's up against
all these heroes that have basically 75% physical resist because they all have insane armor.
So this dragon is hitting ultra fast for 100 to pop.
He's got to be in here for 20 minutes to do anything.
But just to be clear, that's not a critique.
No, I'm not crit-
I'm not crit-
I'm not crit-
Because it damn well sounds like a critique.
I'm just- I'm just asking the questions, Austin.
That's all I'm asking you about.
Okay, well, I'll give you an answer.
You should have Daedalus.
I- This is a critique.
Yeah, I- I think it's Daedalus over Butterfly.
I think Butterfly is like, so what if-
Like, who cares if you last longer in a fight?
You need to do damage if your other cores are not doing damage.
I think at one point it makes sense.
There's a brief timing around that roche where
where you get Butterfly,
because Kez doesn't have MKB,
you can stand in the fight and just look forever.
And then eventually, multiple rounds of spells
coming out from your other course will win the fight.
But we are past that point.
Yeah, that's an overwhelming blink chin.
Dear Lord.
I'm out of the way.
That cannot be the right item.
I don't know, Steve.
He's going! He's going!
He's just dead so fast.
That's not quite right.
Really didn't save you anything here.
And that's going to be the end of the game.
I mean, you've said it.
All the eggs in one basket, well that basket just got smashed.
Tossed by a mutiful job.
That's a really nice one with the refresh, they might actually be able to take out this Aegis.
Unfortunately the ice blast, uh...
Did it miss?
It did not go on Kess.
Okay, well then that's not good.
Gotta get him in the fountain.
Surely hope, never mind another up the center.
Been changed stun.
Oof
X-X's blink up he gets beer back. Oh
Got him I won
Now can you do that four more times?
X-X's like all right, I'll get it to play right here guys. We can hold this
Unfortunately, they will not be able to hold this
X-XS, realizing that despite the goal that he had, the divine rapier will never come.
And Falcons, will 2-0 extreme gaming?
Well, in the end that was a very one-sided series.
I think XG, they're kind of on pace as Falcons. It's not like they got out efficiency or anything, but they just got out fought.
They just got outscaled in these games. There's no timies being hit by XG.
There's no point in the game where they get some momentum, build it, and don't give it back.
back they're just kind of cruising and it's not good enough against this falcon squad who always
have a good idea of what they're playing for how to get there and how it all comes together.
Make sure you're gaming where to go from here man if you can't win with your own game and you
can't beat falcons playing their game well then I guess it's a early exit out of blast slam for them.
Let's go!
Run it back, get the tape!
I'm not getting the bottom of this, okay?
Gender reversals, I'm not getting the bottom of this,
I'm not getting into mixed into this at all, alright?
You'll do whatever you want to do!
Yeah!
Let's go!
I love men!
Whoa!
Yeah, why not?
Anyway, back to the doodle!
Let's talk about it, Falcons 2-0 for themselves
and the Falcons 2-0
2-0 for themselves and you guys said it a little bit of a gif in the drop here for a game number two
Especially around getting a hands on a last pick on the Lord. Yeah, Falcons
This underlaw was absolutely gigantic. They outplayed them in the early game. They I don't actually a little froze in the mid game
It wasn't super clean, but eventually I think it comes down to
Crimson pipe Reeves and the other side does not have them
What you mean? It's not like a snake in with BKB
the actual refresher over what was believed.
Ooh, just a big unit in the fighting world
giving all this life.
But no, I mean, realistically,
they actually had a better draft this time around.
They did have moments,
they had that insurance that we were looking for.
I think the problem for them was maybe towards Army,
he went very defensive.
Like Avery mentioned in the cast, right?
Having a butterfly, anaesthetic, ana refresher.
It's like he had too many elements doing the same thing.
If you take one of them, swap it out, get a bit of damage,
there would have been some fights
Maybe I'll make it a bit more of an X factor, but yeah, not to be the case this time around
You got a caveat it not a criticism though
Yeah, right not occur in the criticism move. Yep. Sorry. That's how we turn the phrase I think like I fully agree because when you look at these fights like
Falcons they will win like the dragged out fight right with the underlord like if I'm playing the monster for fresher
I'm hoping that in my double arena my bro is gonna destroy some new on that field and at some point he did not those news are alive
They really were because the mid game the mid game it was good from XG, but then the ultra giga late game
No, I could see the impact of the AA it felt like you know when we saw it in the last series
You understood why they was there, but we didn't really see it this time around
You could really see the impact of the AA so definitely nice pick up obviously not able to fully transition into that one for them
Yeah, I mean I think I'll be honest
I think they're draft you can argue back and forth on who's is significantly better until you get up to that last phase and then
Then this DK, it's not quite good enough for the 18 pick, tiny mid, we all know it's trash.
And then the last pick, Underlord, which is just like perfect for the game, gives them
the orders they need.
I think they blundered a little bit there, and they also got upplayed in the early game
a little bit to a point where Falcons would just offer the races.
The real question out of these two games, whose ringmaster is better, Sneaking or Crits?
Just from these games?
I only allowed to choose these two
Jing Zhang go
I would have said create from these two games
If we had said overall, I would have gone with the king man
Really?
Yeah, did you not remember the other play?
No, I definitely remember the other play
Tumblr, Toy, and then the whoopie question
Doctor, you got all the spells?
Wow, let's go
You gotta break the tie
You gotta, yeah
I'm gonna go Crip
I'm gonna go Steak and start stealing from the Crips funder
That's messed up
You're gonna lose, because he's NA bros
I'm not even denying it.
Take it away, man.
Take it away?
Yeah.
No, you guys take it away.
For what?
Back to you two.
Well, luckily we do have ourselves the conclusion of this beautiful series as Falcon and XG.
Why am I talking right now anyway?
I don't know.
This is the scoreboard part.
You just told me to do my job.
But yes, XG doing unfortunate stuff for them.
Back to you guys.
They're doing great stuff.
And I think really, when you look, the big problem, oh, it's Rockman.
Yeah.
I mean, this hero, it's gotta stop going into the mid lane.
But at the same time, it's not just this.
To me, it's also, I will harp on one more hero,
which is Anlorot, who's way too good.
But I will say, it's gotta be nice
having Mal'Rain in your team.
This guy in the mid lane, he can't really lose lanes.
Then you stack for him.
He will either free farm, or make even people come to him.
They need to, like, I don't get it.
This guy is the goat.
This guy is the goat.
He's actually, he's actually Unreal Giga.
Yeah, I will say, I do feel a little bit bad for XG.
They stepped up, they're making quite a lot this time around, but even then it just wasn't
enough because they let go of it later.
Not enough, but it was good for Falcon.
The 2-0 here, and that means we had joined with one of the players.
Mark, congratulations on the win.
How are you feeling?
You guys come into MULTURE in a couple of days.
Thank you very much.
Yes, I feel very amazing because we don't deserve this.
You don't deserve it?
Why would you say such things?
Because we kind of got lucky on the groups, like if we face Yandex or Liquid, we know
a way.
Really?
Yeah, like 100%.
I know if we face Liquid, it's like no way, and the Yandex is like 90%.
We lost.
Okay, well, you might be going off against one of those two teams when you get to Malta,
but for now we get to enjoy the win that you guys had.
Before your series, I don't know if you noticed, Skita shaved his mustache, did you notice
that one?
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's hurrying up.
Yeah.
Okay, well I was gonna ask if you prefer Tskita with or without the moustache.
Oh.
What does he look better with the moustache or without it?
I mean, not a lot.
A lot is bad because he has no beard.
Okay.
So just the small amount of moustache you think suits him?
Yeah, or nothing.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, okay.
I agree.
No moustache.
That's right. Anyway, Amar, boss man, on Telegram you said that you were going to go O11 in groups, you lied, you did not go O11 in groups, you are now at the playoffs.
Why are you lying to your Telegram and your fans? You are playing more average than you said you were.
I mean trust me, like our scrims results was very funny, so like winning was actually very surprising, but we actually can like win some games.
We literally, we only won five scrims out of like 24 scrims, I think.
Are you?
So, I wasn't expecting shit.
Are you able to like give us a little hint into them?
Like if they're that funny and bad, is there any like players or memes or general ideas?
Why?
Obviously not too technical of course.
So, we picked Razor, we picked Viper, we picked Husker, we picked Chen, we picked Mars,
we picked every hero in the game, we picked all heroes.
We picked heroes we used to win with, we picked heroes we were winning with, we picked heroes we don't win with, we picked the meta heroes, we picked everything, we had 30k lead, it doesn't matter, we will lose anyway, like no matter what, the game is gonna be good, but the result will say on my screen, enemy one, doesn't matter, doesn't matter, whatever happens, I lost.
Is that because by chance Falcons are allergic to Crimson Guard?
I think you've only bought it twice, every other team's buying it every game.
Is that a factor and maybe Falcons not doing so well that this beautiful Crimson buff is not always getting applied to your entire team?
Trust me, if enemy picked 5 chickens I think they would win at that state.
But Crimson Guard, it's a strong item.
Strong item.
Okay.
You don't want to admit it.
I did one last question before I let you go, Ma.
When is the content creation of Ma coming out?
Like when you're gonna start streaming,
making some content for social media,
like you're such a funny guy.
I don't know, like, do a fucking,
like Twitter is dead in that time?
But it's like, I don't know what to,
like it's just pure dead.
Instagram, it's like, it's like only in LANs,
really you get to post for a week and then it's done.
Telegram is,
That's what you should post?
Yeah, I'm not that good on Telegram.
Streamer...
Yeah, why is it streamer rock?
Yeah, that one is hard, because I cannot do both professional and streaming.
If I stream, I'd be bad pro. If I be good streamer, I will...
Yeah, it's like orb effect, you know, like in DOTA1.
Alright, well I guess we'll just have to wait a little bit longer,
but congratulations again tomorrow and we'll see you in a couple days.
Thank you very much to you too.
Yeah. Well, a lot of fun, I would say, coming out from the team there in their pre-game interviews, post-game as well.
And I'm not being very honest, uh, jokes aside about how they were struggling before they ended up playing here in Blast Lime 6.
Yeah, this guy is just a goat.
He's so funny.
Yeah, I can't take it.
He's actually so funny.
Giving you, like, everything, we did this, we did that, we did this, we are up for the K-Gold enemy war.
I love this guy.
He's a high-five chicken, like...
I love this guy.
Yeah, he also didn't really want to admit how good Crimson God was. I like that. He's like,
yeah, Crimson God's an okay item. My god.
I think for that you can tell that they've had conversations about this item.
This is a point of contention that they are still unsettled about.
Oh, there it is.
That was my reel.
Yeah, on the case, I was investigating, getting a little bit.
But he doesn't want to buy it. I'm pretty sure.
Like, he wants to get around it, but you can tell, like, if even we're like,
you know, T's going to this interview, like, you know, like poking him,
Bro, I know.
Yeah, leave me alone.
I'm listening.
He probably has nightmares about his team, like either pinging the item or like telling
him buy it, buy it.
And he's like PTSD in the interview.
They're just friend types of crimes that are across the boot camp.
This opens the fridge as a crime.
Ah!
Getting jump-scared by.
And I'm going to give you guys a little bit of a scare right now, if you are an ex-G
or a spirit fan, because unfortunately their runs in Blast Lamp 6 are over.
are. They played earlier today on the side of Spirit and unfortunately lost against Yandex
O&2, but that's big praise to Yandex. Now securing that ticket here at Malta along with Falcons,
along with OG and Navi who got that top two spots in the group standings, which leaves just
four teams remaining. Played out the two spots. It's a type series. Yeah. These are honestly,
I think very exciting series and there's a lot of pressure on the line the group stage boils all the way up to this and
I you know I said earlier about especially excited to see if game leasing can keep up the momentum or they go
Now I feel like they can definitely do better than what people expect myself included
I think also the BO3s today have been like pretty good
I think a lot of teams have been stepping up their gameplay so I expect pretty much the same tomorrow
Yeah, I mean tomorrow is the actual day of like upsets potential right it is like everyone's kind of close in the group stage
the general Dota is somewhat close, but yeah tomorrow like if heroic after their group stage
of course beating Reconyx to then beat Tundra the team that was first place had three chances to
lock in the first place in the group stage lost every single best of one those three including
to then disappear from that contention it's like that's a big upset and then game legion liquid
i don't think they are have a good matchup historically against them so heroic game legion
all lies on them like court bring the upsets to tomorrow you know get yourself to mortar and kind
of create a story for yourselves. Yeah, it is interesting that you guys are saying tomorrow are
the potential upsets when technically two of these teams are in our bottom four groups and the
other two just narrowly missing out on securing a direct top four result due to the tiebreaker rules
right there. Dr. Neustadtle and all that sort of stuff at any time we could have potentially seen
either tundra or liquid be one of those teams that makes it straight into the top four. Yeah,
I mean, I think it's the closest group stage and you know, first half of last we've had yet. I think
I think the past one, some of them was like,
you look at the bottom four teams,
they're playing, it's the big dogs, like, ehh.
I think there is more contention there,
and these will be exciting series.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of the teams
that have played a lot lately,
and you can tell the teams that are hungry,
I really think that they have like a quite good shot when,
if I look at Tundra, obviously they're incredible
and amazing, but they're not in the same form
that we're used to seeing them in.
Feels like a little bit shaky from everyone here
at Blast Slam, of course only the players.
My panel's been amazing, it's been a lot of fun
for our date number five,
And we'll see you guys tomorrow, it's a day six.