Streamer Profile Picture

BLASTDota

Team Falcons vs Team Liquid - BLAST Slam VI, Day 7: Quarter-Finals

02-13-2026 · 12h 30m

⚠️ VOD is unavailable.

blastdota VODs on twitch

Broadcasts 30+ hours are truncated. View the Raw Transcript VTT for the full version.


[00:00:30] You
[00:01:00] You
[00:01:30] You
[00:02:00] You
[00:02:30] You
[00:03:00] You
[00:03:30] You
[00:04:00] You
[00:04:30] You
[00:05:00] You
[00:05:30] You
[00:06:30] You
[00:07:00] You
[00:07:30] You
[00:08:30] You
[00:09:00] You
[00:09:30] You
[00:10:00] You
[00:10:30] You
[00:11:00] You
[00:12:00] You
[00:12:30] You
[00:13:00] You
[00:13:30] You
[00:14:00] You
[00:14:30] You
[00:15:30] You
[00:16:00] You
[00:16:30] You
[00:17:00] You
[00:17:30] You
[00:18:30] You
[00:19:00] You
[00:19:30] You
[00:20:00] You
[00:21:00] I mean, I mean, I don't know what was supposed to do anymore, because, oh gee, not the
[00:21:30] in the semi-funnel of what year is this, almost like 2016, does bring a joy that we
[00:21:36] have the return of legacy orgs, new plays, new rivalries, and even better than that,
[00:21:41] a new winner for Blossomet.
[00:22:30] When now we're moving into playoffs of Blossom.
[00:22:35] It's six here in Malton.
[00:22:37] I got a bit of a beautiful audience in this studio with us.
[00:22:42] It's almost done.
[00:22:43] Make me a little nervous.
[00:22:44] Actually seeing people here and you're like,
[00:22:46] the eyes are on our sides and the players now.
[00:22:48] Everyone's kind of doing it live.
[00:22:50] The pressure fires me up.
[00:22:51] I'm pumped.
[00:22:52] I'm excited to be here.
[00:22:53] Ready to watch these goobers with these goobers.
[00:22:55] I'm always nervous.
[00:22:56] I have nothing more to add on that.
[00:22:57] Oh, thank you.
[00:22:58] we're looking like a light on something, but like the closer it is all staring at you right now.
[00:23:03] Public speaking, which is not that in fun. So yeah, we might just shift the bed. Anyway,
[00:23:07] back to you now. All right. Okay. I look it's a very beautiful and loving audience that's here
[00:23:12] right now. And it's been a couple of days. In fact, since we've seen a lot of you guys for it to be
[00:23:16] exact and so for that, we're going to give you a little bit of a recap and all the highlights and moments
[00:23:20] that got out top six here at Blossomet. The script flipped. History got shaken. The favorite slow
[00:23:28] down. Young stars shine bright, and something new started building. This was week 1 of Blast
[00:23:40] Slams 6.
[00:23:42] Trust up the fight, Markiplier's late diving for three miles back in more than a mile
[00:23:46] The magic went from your badge!
[00:23:48] That's too dreadful day!
[00:23:50] To do as she was doing, you made it easier target, but a damn little king stands off the map
[00:23:54] Maybe they can find their target absolutely not!
[00:23:57] She got a gun so way, genius, and makes her make it look like fools!
[00:24:01] Looks like Tyrone's been caught out!
[00:24:03] What's up, or where is he in his arms far too late?
[00:24:05] Tyrone's already dead!
[00:24:06] No, by the way, on the striker!
[00:24:08] Which kind of a post is that a step back, it's not a sea-wide!
[00:24:10] What the hell?
[00:24:11] Oh, that needs to be easily stunned up.
[00:24:12] All our nice, toss back and opening onto the shadow shop.
[00:24:15] I'm going to have a whole jackals shop real quick.
[00:24:16] And it's a grab and all our end connects with two.
[00:24:20] I'll suffer another line on on another focus fire.
[00:24:23] The crimson guard does nothing.
[00:24:25] This stop skater, as he just continues to focus them down.
[00:24:30] And my whole fun of fire and the mutants
[00:24:32] is up and about 10, they did a good call to you.
[00:24:34] They have a close-up face.
[00:24:35] I find the awesome big arena boss.
[00:24:38] I went under the fire and the mic.
[00:24:39] We've got this red and red bird.
[00:24:40] Oh, he's had a stupidity in the lead.
[00:24:42] What a grab from celery.
[00:24:44] Your Albert Smith's just definitely healed.
[00:24:46] Well, it is a nice pad back of fire on the three heroes.
[00:24:49] I grab warred as well.
[00:24:50] They're going to be pushing into here the bathroom's home.
[00:24:53] They're huge.
[00:24:53] They're alive.
[00:24:54] And one of my favorite people on the off.
[00:24:56] The trees are the razor.
[00:24:57] The width of this ultimate is going to work here.
[00:24:59] And I'm jump-sitting just tight like that.
[00:25:02] Let me hear you.
[00:25:03] You may have to jump on the size.
[00:25:05] The blue armor can't make it out.
[00:25:06] You have to try to comb it on the tree of them.
[00:25:08] Don't try for the Wukos to buy their baby, but most guys don't fall down to the tree as well as the soup part of the vine.
[00:25:13] They're not getting out alive.
[00:25:14] 20-10 feet can be soft, and you fall into a hole happy.
[00:25:18] Each feed train is built out with an ice-pack, all the little puppies find the damage on the make-a.
[00:25:21] They have from one of our seeds.
[00:25:23] The magnetized, we up, we'll be in the portal, we'll be hunting down.
[00:25:27] The Wukos is more of a easy hunt for them.
[00:25:29] Let's get a try.
[00:25:30] Exclare off the air.
[00:25:31] Don't try to get the Wukos to sit down.
[00:25:33] Don't try to run, we get busy.
[00:25:34] Get a new doctor.
[00:25:35] There was a lot that happened last week in the like I said, our top six right now, OG and
[00:25:54] Navi already making it touch semi finals and the full remaining Falcons liquid, Yandex and
[00:25:59] her role in the put.
[00:26:01] my lovely analyst on the spot.
[00:26:03] Pick your winner right now before play us even begins.
[00:26:07] Liquid, you stole my answer.
[00:26:08] I was gonna say that.
[00:26:09] That's the biggest question.
[00:26:10] Is there already a studio?
[00:26:11] I don't want to be hateful.
[00:26:12] No, I want the team that starts from round one.
[00:26:15] And I think from the ones we got,
[00:26:17] that might take.
[00:26:18] Okay.
[00:26:18] I'm going back to you.
[00:26:19] Thank you.
[00:26:20] Okay, so he said, look, I will say with what I'll be different.
[00:26:22] I'll say Yandex or Navi, because I got a reward.
[00:26:24] We got one.
[00:26:25] I'll say Yandex.
[00:26:26] Okay.
[00:26:27] Malico.
[00:26:27] Back to you, T, easiest her work of my life.
[00:26:29] Okay.
[00:26:30] It's like, oh, that's what I'm saying.
[00:26:33] Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[00:26:35] No, it's what I'm saying.
[00:26:37] We can't woo for you.
[00:26:38] And that's what I'm saying.
[00:26:39] There you go.
[00:26:40] That's what I'm saying.
[00:26:41] I know.
[00:26:42] You know, you're just going to do that.
[00:26:43] I wrote magic again.
[00:26:44] One play on a heroic kind of doing it all.
[00:26:46] Look.
[00:26:47] There is that chance.
[00:26:48] And I like that you guys are high enough.
[00:26:50] The leases that we could have around the one of playups he made get to that funds.
[00:26:53] Maybe even when it out.
[00:26:55] But before we get into it, you guys haven't already.
[00:26:57] you can make your boss fantasy.
[00:27:01] Oh my goodness.
[00:27:02] I'm not going to make one live on the panel right now.
[00:27:04] Maybe a little bit of influence from the crowd to depending on how much
[00:27:07] they like with dislike out takes here.
[00:27:09] But the way that it works is you can pick one player from each team.
[00:27:14] In fact, this five rolls, it does mean one team you kind of have to
[00:27:17] not only have too much faith in, so you're not going to be putting a player in
[00:27:20] from them.
[00:27:21] I mean, to me, I feel like you start with the most obvious,
[00:27:24] and I believe it's a more of the friend.
[00:27:26] Yeah, he can be good.
[00:27:27] He'd be good.
[00:27:28] I feel like you're putting the friend in the offline
[00:27:30] because he's kind of giga.
[00:27:31] I think out of all the ones you got,
[00:27:32] people who were fond of them are like the most statistics.
[00:27:36] Right. I mean, how did this thing come to you?
[00:27:37] He was like, that was the one I've got to be on board with that.
[00:27:39] No, because I was just going to try and make a case
[00:27:41] and not to put Malik because he greased my fantasy before.
[00:27:43] But I made it in the captain and he just came last so
[00:27:45] I was going to refuse that, but you're so quickly went to a more
[00:27:48] other.
[00:27:48] It's kind of, uh, like, realistically, who else are you going to put there?
[00:27:51] I think maybe there's a little bit of disrespect towards Niko, right?
[00:27:54] Nicko, like the whole idea of the aggression that you bring in from the offline,
[00:27:58] they're little stats to get.
[00:27:59] There's also numbers behind the fan of seeing.
[00:28:01] You got to min max that.
[00:28:02] So maybe there's a bit more, you know,
[00:28:04] stat farm.
[00:28:05] We'll look at him.
[00:28:05] He's ax game.
[00:28:06] I thought that was primal game.
[00:28:08] His primal game is good.
[00:28:09] Yeah, but he was like that 0 10 game where we were meant to play.
[00:28:11] We don't talk about that one.
[00:28:12] That was a good one.
[00:28:13] That was not a good one game.
[00:28:14] That was the file.
[00:28:15] The file literally said that he's just surprised to be here.
[00:28:18] So you guys are locking in a guy like that.
[00:28:19] You can't be on the other side.
[00:28:20] He's not talking about just one role.
[00:28:23] Let's start with them off, like we can we can come back, maybe change it up.
[00:28:26] Okay.
[00:28:26] Let's look at different roles.
[00:28:27] Oh, gee.
[00:28:28] Uh, do you want to go down, do you want to do support?
[00:28:30] And then back up to the Karen Midlainus?
[00:28:31] Let's do that.
[00:28:32] Yeah.
[00:28:33] Let's do it.
[00:28:33] So who are you going to pick for your position?
[00:28:35] Four.
[00:28:36] I think.
[00:28:37] I think I'm going to socks up.
[00:28:41] I think socks up.
[00:28:42] But the things will they win?
[00:28:43] They've got to stand in.
[00:28:44] That's the question mark.
[00:28:45] Because you want them to go far.
[00:28:47] The socks are different.
[00:28:48] We're locking them in for the whole tournament.
[00:28:50] The last three days for all playoffs. You cannot make any alterations changes negotiation if we didn't take a mile off
[00:28:57] And I'm gonna take in boxes before I feel like that's like the next best for
[00:29:01] But thank you talking about no, because like it doesn't make sense to take boxy
[00:29:04] We said already have a mile church right through one of them will knock each other all first round. Okay. Oh
[00:29:08] I see what you mean
[00:29:12] Then you're gonna get that to me right you can have to do that no matter what because you either don't pick someone that's in the semi-finals
[00:29:19] I'm I'm leaning I won't have a humor and that's who knows my carry
[00:29:22] But a lot of juicy boy. I like juicy boy as a carry
[00:29:26] I'm a juicy show. That is kind of juicy
[00:29:30] Let's do that
[00:29:33] Okay, juicy on the one
[00:29:37] What if you go go posh mid or niche in it? I feel like that's the choice you go to make and that's gonna
[00:29:42] What you think we go to your past okay, you're gonna go to your post which means I think you should go either boxy or salsa
[00:29:46] What's the difference between you two?
[00:29:49] Oh, we're talking about the numbers.
[00:29:50] What's the difference between you two?
[00:29:52] Oh, we're talking about the numbers.
[00:29:54] We're talking about the numbers.
[00:29:55] We're talking about the numbers.
[00:29:57] Yeah, no.
[00:29:58] So then you have a lot of different choices.
[00:30:00] Let's do five, because I feel like four feels
[00:30:02] the most contentious right now.
[00:30:03] Okay.
[00:30:04] I would actually swap out the juice for ready's,
[00:30:05] change the carry player,
[00:30:07] and then put boxy or saxa on four,
[00:30:10] because then you have, at some point,
[00:30:11] a teeny little lemonade.
[00:30:12] What does that mean?
[00:30:13] You have to actually have to actually,
[00:30:14] so I think it happens to me.
[00:30:15] We 50-50 boxy sector and then we take that sumi carry and then that to me is like pretty well rounded
[00:30:21] Fair enough boxy. I think boxy is farming more and more of those. We can do seven points
[00:30:25] Like this actually balances the the need of points and how far they can go. There's a good team. There's a base team
[00:30:30] All right, you know no, I was you're actually all four
[00:30:34] He didn't really jump on board
[00:30:37] Okay, well it'll change word change. I mean, I
[00:30:42] Who do I want on captain the captain is I'm on come on
[00:30:45] I mean, you're getting you also put Tyler on.
[00:30:47] I put Tyler on captain.
[00:30:48] Yeah.
[00:30:48] Well, this girl in like 20 on beatbox.
[00:30:50] They've so much.
[00:30:51] I'm not letting this guy in.
[00:30:53] If you're gonna ask him, what's your door to plus level on this year,
[00:30:55] or do you have more than that?
[00:30:56] Let him in.
[00:30:57] Let him.
[00:30:57] Let him in.
[00:30:58] That's what I say.
[00:30:59] I'm gonna point his beast master score.
[00:31:00] You see my KDA?
[00:31:01] Yeah.
[00:31:01] And they say to put a mouse goes into some of the group stage games,
[00:31:03] and then the mouse will go mute it.
[00:31:04] So it's like, come on.
[00:31:05] And then Tyler can just take leadership over.
[00:31:08] I think I'm not just not gonna let that happen.
[00:31:09] The second coming of Samel.
[00:31:10] He might be there.
[00:31:11] Wow.
[00:31:11] How did it hit fast from him okay to no more no more changes from the carry a hard support
[00:31:17] No endx players you guys don't have faith in them with the stand-in
[00:31:21] I think you can
[00:31:24] On four and a an an Eric angles on five at all
[00:31:28] That's an acceptable pivot if you want to do it last minute. You don't believe not me. That's what he's saying. Yeah, I want to
[00:31:33] I want to do DJ on Kerry.
[00:31:35] I want to do DJ on Kerry.
[00:31:36] I don't know, do you believe it?
[00:31:37] I think you guys are telling you on a TV for the reason.
[00:31:39] Maybe you're just kidding.
[00:31:41] So you're going to pay O.G. or Navi, just look on it, come on.
[00:31:43] I guess they're just hate them.
[00:31:44] OK, fair enough.
[00:31:44] I mean, I think angles and socks are.
[00:31:47] If I think this looks a little bit.
[00:31:48] OK, how about this?
[00:31:49] And you're not doing that.
[00:31:50] That's basically what you're willing to do to part.
[00:31:52] It's a compromise.
[00:31:53] Yeah, take that.
[00:31:54] So you mean, you guys then get your support to it?
[00:31:55] Yep.
[00:31:56] OK.
[00:31:56] Everyone's happy.
[00:31:57] And we all agree Captain Foo, Tyler and Midley.
[00:32:00] I'm not on board, but I will.
[00:32:01] I was like, would you want to, I was like,
[00:32:03] how do you come on that room?
[00:32:05] High-long on a real life level.
[00:32:06] Yes, I put the T-I-R-Ener.
[00:32:08] But I'll give the arena his captains.
[00:32:11] Oh, fat, I guess it's going to.
[00:32:13] They're going to be proved wrong later today, that's for sure.
[00:32:15] No, well, no, I'll look at it.
[00:32:18] Can you get what I look at in the mark?
[00:32:19] I'm looking at the mark.
[00:32:21] I'm with you, too.
[00:32:21] That's right.
[00:32:22] What?
[00:32:23] The quiet out there.
[00:32:24] Yeah, I'm not going to speak.
[00:32:25] Yeah, I'm going to clean these robber wings.
[00:32:26] We don't get it.
[00:32:27] I was in the stock.
[00:32:27] I'm going to clean this.
[00:32:28] I don't know what it's doing.
[00:32:29] The podiums decide who is not captain.
[00:32:31] Who wants to tie long as that captain for our fantasy team?
[00:32:35] No one.
[00:32:36] Come on.
[00:32:37] Really? No one.
[00:32:38] What the fuck?
[00:32:39] What the fuck?
[00:32:40] You're useless.
[00:32:41] All right.
[00:32:42] Anyhow, my friends.
[00:32:43] No one.
[00:32:44] No one.
[00:32:45] No one.
[00:32:46] No one.
[00:32:47] We don't need a captain at all.
[00:32:49] So we're just going to look in what it is that we'll check in.
[00:32:51] When it comes to the later days, how we go, we can keep up today with our schools.
[00:32:56] you're just, you got to let it go, okay?
[00:33:00] Because at the end of the day, there's a lot of games on the table
[00:33:03] that potentially could be scoring points in
[00:33:05] because, well, Blossom, we changed our format a little bit.
[00:33:08] No more of these flying to another country to play best of three.
[00:33:12] It's best of five's from date number one in the playoffs.
[00:33:15] See how long has it been since we've had that in the Dodgers sphere?
[00:33:18] Yeah, so at two o'clock in the morning this morning,
[00:33:20] I was looking for a Wikipedia.
[00:33:21] So if this is wrong, my bad guys, but it was two in the morning,
[00:33:24] There's a number of crunching, so it's been 4,041 days since we lost how to play
[00:33:28] us, that included best of 5, so like semi-finals or quarterfinals.
[00:33:31] Right, none of these like third place to sight of matches, it's all about the actual
[00:33:34] player for itself.
[00:33:35] So, it is just crazy to think that it has been nearly, you know, that many years
[00:33:41] of the world.
[00:33:42] A decade that we haven't had this type of format, and it is going to test the players,
[00:33:45] it's going to test everyone, but I don't know, I'm just excited at the prospect, all
[00:33:48] we're going to be crying in like 10 hours time or 12 hours time when we're still
[00:33:52] That's the five finished. Exactly. Yeah. It's a real, yeah, real coin toss. I mean, I'm very pumped to see how the meta develops. I think that's five speed up the meta development. There's always this this inner series thing. And how does that carry from series to series?
[00:34:04] Yeah. There have been a format like this. So I'm very excited to see how the meta and the heroes develop.
[00:34:08] If you have a game four and five draft run back as well, maybe that one, tubs it's. Yeah, I hope so. I would love that again, please.
[00:34:14] I feel like it's getting like more normal than usual, so that seems like run back what they have before. But I think it's like the format. I think it's a good compromise because you're running the single limb.
[00:34:21] at least you have to be your five.
[00:34:22] You have more chance to prove you
[00:34:24] within this one specific series
[00:34:25] whether you're better or not.
[00:34:26] So I'm a big fan of this one.
[00:34:28] And also more chance to win
[00:34:30] what every player desires here
[00:34:32] is of course getting to lift
[00:34:34] that blast flame trophy,
[00:34:37] as well as a little bit of a prize pool share to you.
[00:34:40] Yeah, of course.
[00:34:41] It's always a nice little addition to a tournament,
[00:34:43] but again, we just have the TI announcement,
[00:34:46] the times of the qualifies and whatnot.
[00:34:48] So look to self in a cheeky little slam six.
[00:34:50] It's Jordan Win and now guess what?
[00:34:52] You know, boss man valves, look at,
[00:34:54] oh, OG wins this one over Rworkhorse,
[00:34:56] instead of the teams out of here.
[00:34:57] And he wins.
[00:34:58] No jinxing anyone, but I think it's very important.
[00:35:00] Starting the year strong, of course, with a big win,
[00:35:03] knowing how important the tournaments to down the line are.
[00:35:05] So yeah, it's just a very, very important tournament of these teams.
[00:35:09] Not to mention that, but also for your confidence,
[00:35:10] like winning a tournament goes so far.
[00:35:12] I think for a team's belief in themselves,
[00:35:14] you've got a TI and these later tournaments,
[00:35:16] you actually believe you can do it.
[00:35:17] So every win matters a lot.
[00:35:19] even if you don't really recognize it in the moment, it is a big deal.
[00:35:22] What feels like a better winning the first one off the back of like the new season?
[00:35:26] So like, you know, post-Ti ends, we, we, we, we, we quit as the new season.
[00:35:29] Well, winning the first one in a calendar year.
[00:35:31] What do you think gives you more confidence?
[00:35:33] To further along, it is the more it means.
[00:35:35] So I think this one, like to win it means more than all the ones before.
[00:35:38] Because you're getting closer to the big ones.
[00:35:40] People are starting to warm up more.
[00:35:41] They're getting better.
[00:35:42] And I think it is definitely the case.
[00:35:44] Yeah, I mean, those two teams that are already very close to the grand finals themselves.
[00:35:48] that's OG and Navi and so we're not going to be seeing them play today at all.
[00:35:52] They're going to wait in the wings until tomorrow with their best to five start off.
[00:35:55] But today, heroic and yandex will be facing off a best of five.
[00:35:59] After we have our very first win, it's either going to be Falcons or Liquid.
[00:36:05] Two teams, separate paths, same destination, multi, falcons, a familiar threat securing their way
[00:36:14] back into another playoff run, Liquid, the new chapter, stepping into their first
[00:36:20] lame playoffs is something that's ruined.
[00:36:23] The group stage told a story.
[00:36:25] Liquid looked solid, undrop away from top two.
[00:36:29] Balton stumbled off the fast track, but once, no street ticket to the semi-funk,
[00:36:35] they enter the stage together, the new one team will come out of Victor.
[00:36:41] So pick your side, use your subspec subplains, or the returning can attenders of liquid.
[00:36:47] This is Blast Lamb 6, and this, this is the play-offs.
[00:37:00] A lot of excitement to see these two teams come up against each other, and of course now in a best of five.
[00:37:06] Which you guys get the advantage towards liquid they've been pretty stable so far or is it a slight edge towards falcons?
[00:37:12] It's actually it's honestly quite hard to say. I think the both teams have like
[00:37:16] Well, yeah good and bad things to say that they've shown because I wouldn't say that the item of them are in like prime form of what they could be
[00:37:22] So to me like most of the matches we have at least today are they're quite even in my mind
[00:37:26] Yeah, I agree. I do think the history of the teams matters though like matchups are so important in daughter
[00:37:31] And I think between these two teams and you look at them the birds they they've got the upper hand
[00:37:35] I think historically they've clipped liquids wings and we were talking about earlier
[00:37:39] I think the only best to find they've played in
[00:37:41] Since falcons creation was it I've
[00:37:44] Falkens one bath and they've generally looked pretty dominant over them
[00:37:47] You can see here 21 to 7 that is this is in the last 12 months
[00:37:52] So this isn't the old time this isn't the last 12 months, but that's still a lot of wins favoring falcons
[00:37:57] Yeah, and I think while this tells a pretty damning story
[00:37:59] I think it's not only in that direction because a more in this interview said he was kind of scared of liquid
[00:38:04] And I think you can also feel like liquid for whatever reason is actually Falcon's kryptonite in some ways in recent history
[00:38:09] You can hear it sort of word on the street and so I think while these stats tell a certain story
[00:38:13] The trajectory this tournament and it makes it not quite as clear. I mean, it's also a liquid that
[00:38:18] After TI has had troubles trying to actually convert their strategies into a winning formula
[00:38:22] Falcon's in coming into the new year that not this like team that will get to the 30-40 minute mark and always have this network
[00:38:28] You always be able to find that way and they're struggling a lot going into the late portions of the game
[00:38:31] I think liquid is moving in a trajectory of getting that fast pace again
[00:38:35] understanding how to break teams not allowing Falcons to eventually then recover
[00:38:39] Again, that's I think the key story is Falcons always recovered against liquid
[00:38:41] But they're crumbling so is there now and I'll give you an adequate could on paper if you ignore the stats
[00:38:46] Be the better team because they're looking to be cleaner in that first half an hour again
[00:38:50] Yeah, we also have the factor in the it was best of ones that they came up against each other or at least what they've also been playing in Boston
[00:38:56] They've done their individual best of three's both of them winning and two-ose
[00:39:00] So it feels like maybe the pool to draw from there or the information isn't as big and like we said the one best of five they played was all the way back in what was a 2024
[00:39:10] So again a lot of things have changed between them and then and now especially on the liquid side
[00:39:15] And so we asked the players how they felt about playing some more best of five's here at Malta
[00:39:21] So I think you're like in this specific, uh, a specific tournament having best of five's is like kind of cool because we don't really we won't have many games
[00:39:28] So, at least a few series we have, we can play logins, which I think is cool.
[00:39:33] And also, in a like a best of five, you like the team that is the best team usually will win at the end.
[00:39:41] And also like, if you play a best of three, you would maybe think that, okay, we won the best of three,
[00:39:47] but then you still lose the best of five, so it's like, okay, that out team I was actually better.
[00:39:51] Like, you know, like, you know, like, the more games, the more like security, who was the better team I was.
[00:39:56] What was that?
[00:39:57] Yeah, I think the change for Best of Five in all the games is good specifically because
[00:40:04] there's no lower bracket, I think most tournaments in Dota have, I mean, I don't even,
[00:40:08] yeah, most tournaments just have lower bracket, it's just a standard in Dota.
[00:40:11] So I think with Blast having this format, it just makes sense to have, like expand the
[00:40:16] Best of Three into a Best of Five.
[00:40:17] So it makes sense that all the teams that come here at Dota, like it's kind of like
[00:40:21] a reward, like you get to go and you know you're going to play Best of Five in a
[00:40:24] And obviously, it's interesting for viewers as well, I think it's just a completely new dynamic, dynamic, and I think just changing it up as soon as.
[00:40:32] I mean, I think this format is interesting in a way that there was also a little gap before the game, so there's more time to prepare for the best of ice.
[00:40:41] And also generally, it is more interesting because it's a final, it's kind of feel and teams are going to create their own little meta and like change up their picks and stuff.
[00:40:49] So, it is really interesting to play.
[00:40:52] Then, like I think it was like a final specific where there's like high building up,
[00:40:58] there's going to be, I don't know, like a crowded event,
[00:41:01] and there's, I don't know, it's going to be a tense, high, like energetic.
[00:41:06] There's going to be like a lot around it, where it's like,
[00:41:09] here we can just testing the waters.
[00:41:12] It feels like for the first series at least.
[00:41:14] And if it goes to a full stretch where we like play best of five win tomorrow best of
[00:41:20] five today after best of five I feel like it might be a little much and exhausting but
[00:41:25] I don't know it's like a new thing we haven't tried it so we'll just have to see.
[00:41:31] I think the format in this blast is quite refreshing given the fact that it's quite different
[00:41:35] from other tournaments it's a best of five in all playouts.
[00:41:38] So I think if every tournament is like this it might be a little tedious but like
[00:41:43] since it's kind of one of a kind in the niche in the area.
[00:41:46] So I think it's pretty exciting and fun.
[00:41:50] What do you expect to make sure that the lift lift
[00:41:52] will protect you with that in the next question?
[00:41:55] I'm expecting liquid to not change too much
[00:41:57] from their highly played in group stage.
[00:41:59] It's probably so prioritized with similar heroes,
[00:42:01] and somewhat placed out.
[00:42:03] And I think we will just have to see
[00:42:05] if the strategies you prepare today will be
[00:42:07] but better than theirs.
[00:42:09] I feel like the sentiment weighs pretty similar
[00:42:12] across all the players, just how unique a best of five before Grand Finals is, and of course
[00:42:17] how the matter is going to develop within itself, coming up against each other, and what
[00:42:22] could be five games? So I guess the changes instead of a best of three, where you might play
[00:42:26] three games, you're guaranteed at least three games in Malta. That's right, that's best.
[00:42:31] That's 50% as much. That's not a lie. That's don't lie. It's a wise man once said.
[00:42:36] This is true. No excuses, but if you come here and then you lose, you know, you had to hold
[00:42:41] best of five to progress in the tournament. Well you say I wish you was the best of seven.
[00:42:44] Yeah exactly do we keep going on? I don't get it started on this one.
[00:42:46] Yeah it's hard. SLAM-7, no joke enough. That's it. We just increase it. Yeah.
[00:42:51] That began Bill 7. But it's all like game one of the best of five is like your testing
[00:42:56] grown. That's why you truly can go maybe we push the limits. Do we give them a
[00:42:59] hero that we've never given them that you have this safety line in best of three?
[00:43:02] In the back of your mind coaches you don't do as much. So I'm really hoping we get to see the
[00:43:06] true depth of these teams in a true best of five. I'm also hoping that maybe
[00:43:11] The one of the changes we could see from either side is the pacing that comes out because
[00:43:15] so often when it feels like you're in this single elimination, in a best of three,
[00:43:19] you don't really have that luxury of losing a first game compared to a best of five.
[00:43:23] And so you play a bit slower, you play a bit more reserved, it feels like everything
[00:43:26] has to be methodical.
[00:43:27] Now, though, you have more chances, Kessie, maybe you can play hard and fast.
[00:43:31] No, absolutely.
[00:43:32] And the thing is also between these two teams, like Falcus, generally speaking, like I see them
[00:43:35] as like a super-dango team, and especially, they make this first move a lot to like where
[00:43:39] they go through the gate and take the enemy tower,
[00:43:41] we see they're going through there.
[00:43:42] But I feel like that's a move that they haven't really
[00:43:44] done as much in this tournament.
[00:43:45] And you can see it on the stats too.
[00:43:47] Like the percentage where they take the first
[00:43:48] harvest quite low with 33%.
[00:43:50] If you look at liquid, they take the first
[00:43:52] harvest in the majority of their gains.
[00:43:53] And they take it way faster in even under 12 minutes.
[00:43:56] Like if you look at Mickey, he will be very active when it comes
[00:43:58] through that and I go through the gate and making the
[00:44:00] stable stuff happen.
[00:44:01] So I do think that in this BO5, this is absolutely
[00:44:04] something that confidence needs to look at.
[00:44:06] Even before it again starts, like you need to be ready for these
[00:44:08] And also try to do what they used to do, which is what make them so them good.
[00:44:12] Yeah, I mean, liquid is definitely playing this very gung-ho crazy style.
[00:44:15] They're playing a spirit for Amber Mead, nature's profit carried that redder off of it.
[00:44:19] And they're just, we're gonna run at your head.
[00:44:21] You better be ready.
[00:44:22] And so I think for Falcons there, there is like, that's always the clash with Falcons.
[00:44:26] Is they play a little bit on the slower side.
[00:44:27] Can they actually survive the giga aggression?
[00:44:30] I mean, at the end of the group stage, we also saw the return of like the nature's profit, right?
[00:44:33] For me, okay?
[00:44:34] We've got the monkey king again.
[00:44:35] It was picked a couple of times.
[00:44:36] like the heroes that were not forgotten about but not maybe picked up as much are now coming back into the mix as well.
[00:44:41] So not only are you looking at liquid and going are they going to have the the darks and the underlaws?
[00:44:45] Maybe some of the heroes that even OG used to last yet so it's only fine.
[00:44:48] You also have to respect the chaos while it's like this.
[00:44:50] Just specialties.
[00:44:51] No, arising once again for liquid.
[00:44:53] Man, I felt like it took a little bit for them to click together.
[00:44:56] It's been a couple of months since this roster has spawned and they've gone through a lot of highs and lows together.
[00:45:01] of this is obviously a big step for them.
[00:45:03] We'll get to see them back on land after they weren't able
[00:45:06] to make a Singapore when they just paid it in Bloss
[00:45:08] land back then at the end of the year.
[00:45:10] And so yeah, now we're getting to see them on land things,
[00:45:13] clicking maybe even things that are like heroes
[00:45:15] of the teams aren't talking about,
[00:45:17] thinking about coming out and working for them too.
[00:45:19] So they've just been very stable and consistent
[00:45:21] so far on this tournament.
[00:45:23] Yeah, I mean, they're, it's interesting.
[00:45:25] I think Faulk is their trajectory.
[00:45:26] This tournament has been so up and down.
[00:45:27] Like they started so rocky.
[00:45:29] Yeah, exactly.
[00:45:30] They start out such a mess, and then toward the end,
[00:45:33] they sort of got their act together a little bit.
[00:45:35] And I think it sort of feels that way.
[00:45:37] And so I looked at the games and it's like,
[00:45:38] wow, it really is that way.
[00:45:39] They started off the tournament three and four.
[00:45:41] And then as it progressed, they ended up five and one
[00:45:44] as it got toward the end.
[00:45:45] So I think this dynamic of them,
[00:45:48] them progressing, you're getting better.
[00:45:49] It like, to me, these two teams that were shaky and rocked.
[00:45:52] But they're approaching a point
[00:45:53] where they're actually starting to click,
[00:45:55] and now it's like, it's very exciting.
[00:45:56] I feel it's a liquid, the biggest change out
[00:45:59] was you bring both ace and tofu in right and they've
[00:46:02] lined together for so long and we can still get to add to
[00:46:05] this that's been playing together but not in that same
[00:46:08] lane and maybe now it's finally clicked for both sides
[00:46:11] of ace playing with a different forward to moving into a
[00:46:13] different role as well. I'm not saying it took this long
[00:46:16] but just to see it in competitive click. I mean like it's
[00:46:19] also the fact that not just like they have played together
[00:46:21] for a long time but also we need to remember the tofu
[00:46:22] actually you swapped roles like it hasn't always been a
[00:46:24] plus five player and this role is quite different from
[00:46:27] playing for like it takes a long time, you have to get used to like new heroes.
[00:46:30] It's like way different.
[00:46:31] They're early game.
[00:46:32] You're not like free-dove.
[00:46:33] You need to stick to your character.
[00:46:34] You need to get used to make it.
[00:46:35] What do you play?
[00:46:36] What do you do?
[00:46:37] So I think it's another thing that needs to be respected about him.
[00:46:39] Because roll swaps?
[00:46:40] They're hard.
[00:46:41] Yeah.
[00:46:42] I mean, not only that.
[00:46:43] Then you have boxy.
[00:46:44] Paul asked if he's had steady free in the off-lane.
[00:46:45] Then he had save.
[00:46:46] But like in the off-lane.
[00:46:47] He's like, hey, so the discipline, the wild aggression and ace is probably more towards the 33
[00:46:50] started.
[00:46:51] This is different again.
[00:46:52] So it's like, your boxy is getting whip plash from his landing part.
[00:46:53] every different year he's playing on the team, right?
[00:46:55] But again, it takes time once you find that rhythm,
[00:46:57] then you're going to get going.
[00:46:58] But again, they're meant to be a star team on paper.
[00:47:01] Yeah, hasn't connected as of yet.
[00:47:02] So what tournament will it be?
[00:47:04] Well, we dive a little bit deeper into this one
[00:47:06] and we ask, hey, how it was playing with Toffy now?
[00:47:11] I think the way me and Toffy has been settling in on this team
[00:47:16] has been like, like, we became as a pair.
[00:47:18] So it's kind of more comfortable.
[00:47:20] I was setting it on the team when you already have a dude
[00:47:22] So yeah, it's not been very hard to think, I think, more in terms of like playstyle,
[00:47:31] like you can have completely different playstyle than me to work for like a long time.
[00:47:36] So that's been like a bit of a chance.
[00:47:40] And then also, like we used to be lean part now, it's what now we're like switching
[00:47:44] around with, which like also, it's been taking like some time and also that's been a lot
[00:47:51] going back and forth, it's like the correct decision.
[00:47:53] There's also been a game when we were talking about getting together and usually they go really well.
[00:47:58] But like, so like, yeah, but overall, it's been like a good experience so far and like I think we have a very...
[00:48:08] very good team synergy, like both outside the game and also inside the game it's getting around like...
[00:48:14] Well, he's talking about how it's been a good experience so far and there's a chance to make it even better for themselves
[00:48:20] I was coming up against Falcons in the best of five intentionally taking the win, but yeah, it's not just speculation getting to hear it from ace race talking about there is a lot going on and
[00:48:28] every little bit in itself takes just that extra step to be able to settle in and feel comfortable with it.
[00:48:33] Yeah, I think team changes like this.
[00:48:35] They always seem easier on the exterior than they are inside and there's also always more tumult in a team than you think there is.
[00:48:42] There's all these conversations he said, you know, questioning if that was even the right decision, right?
[00:48:45] like there's all this stuff either in your head or actual conversations, you have,
[00:48:49] there's all these these question marks. And so I think a lot of these big
[00:48:52] series, it's sort of these are big moments of like proving what is the right to call, you know?
[00:48:56] I mean, it's also a matter of like you have to find your understanding of each of
[00:48:59] his daughter, right? Like, I've heard tales of Quinn shutting down people's ideas for the, you know,
[00:49:02] like, like, how are these things? Yeah, I thought that's about that, but this is the same thing.
[00:49:08] Like, what's to do if you have an idea or so, you know, ace has an idea, you know,
[00:49:11] the liquid initial structure might not, you know, enjoy it, takes months to get through.
[00:49:15] So, you know, we had a look at their heroes right to see how they got here, like what is
[00:49:18] the enjoyable heroes that they're leaning on, and I think it is a matter of liquid, finally
[00:49:23] finding that trust in each other.
[00:49:24] Where it's like, you have the tofu marana, boxes getting his ursprit, and because of
[00:49:29] boxy-bank ursprit, it's like, okay, a, you need to pay a certain hero for me to pay
[00:49:32] ursprit.
[00:49:33] If you're playing really like greedy offlaners and like heroes that need me, I can't really
[00:49:37] play this here as much, right?
[00:49:38] So, it's about finding the balance between the two players.
[00:49:41] you hit that rhythm, you'll find this hero pull that is all aggressive, compared to
[00:49:45] Falcons, which is, as you saw there, it was like clunky, the aura of the save each other.
[00:49:49] So, I think it's really fun seeing liquid moving this trajectory, but there are two very
[00:49:53] different teams in regards to the styles of their drafts.
[00:49:56] I am surprised to how many times Falcons put their hands on the channel, I mean, they keep
[00:50:00] every time shows up with that hero.
[00:50:02] The fact that we're even adding it to the list that people are still letting it go through
[00:50:06] there.
[00:50:07] I mean, this guy on this hero, he's honestly quite the reason, I think, when you talked
[00:50:11] about this hero and especially if you have to talk a little bit about like the
[00:50:14] pick order as well like off the teams because I think it's something that has been
[00:50:17] talked about like too much but when you like look at these two teams and generally speaking
[00:50:21] how they play I think it matters a lot and if you look at Falcons from first pick they
[00:50:25] haven't won a single game in this tournament on second pick they've won eight out of eleven
[00:50:29] games and they're currently on a five game win streak so I want to also show like what
[00:50:33] so what do they actually do on second pick that it works so well and what I want to show
[00:50:36] and this is something that Quinn also mentioned in the draft when we had those life on
[00:50:40] the date is if you look at their first stage bands they're already taking out the
[00:50:43] quap there because when your second pick you only have one singular band in the second
[00:50:46] stage so they're always like already protecting for the future with a first phase band
[00:50:50] of the quap and they always find really nice bands that then later are both good for their
[00:50:54] first pick which on the upper draft will be the Mars and the primalbies by taking out the
[00:50:58] Kes and the quap. So I think this team like pick order in this series and being aware of
[00:51:02] you know their little strategies and how they draft is super important for team liquid.
[00:51:06] They're just very structured in that nature and they know how like if it's available they'll take it
[00:51:10] So it's like prepping against falcons you should know what's coming is a matter of like don't have a bond bad
[00:51:14] That bond bad kick because the falcons are okay
[00:51:16] They've cracked they haven't done that prep correctly. Then we go for it
[00:51:19] So again, that's nothing playing as far as it's normally the night before how well did your prep go and because of how you can get up to play against them
[00:51:26] Yeah, and we've given a lot of our thoughts about this best of five and everything that could potentially
[00:51:30] eventually but there's two more people that we love it to hear talk so much so
[00:51:34] we're going to have a quick check in with them it's all in and fall do we haven't
[00:51:38] got the talk to for a while how do you go in if I can start with Owen first
[00:51:42] yeah we're doing great now doing great really looking forward to this one it's
[00:51:47] just absolutely treat that it's the best of five right we're getting more
[00:51:49] best of five comments on more best of five's when joy it's as if we we're
[00:51:54] just getting a multitude of ground finals over the next three days and the
[00:51:57] the start with Liquid and Falcons in the best of five,
[00:51:59] can I ask for much more, I felt.
[00:52:02] Yeah, I mean, absolutely, right?
[00:52:04] We just came off of the last best of five that we casted
[00:52:06] was the literally the repeat, right?
[00:52:09] The repeat for game four and game five,
[00:52:11] where they drafted the same thing.
[00:52:12] So, I mean, obviously if we got that, that would be super hype,
[00:52:14] but I think overall, I think it's like the team's just saying,
[00:52:16] like I think Ace was kind of saying it,
[00:52:18] and like kind of a simple way, but the more games,
[00:52:21] the more it'll prove about which team is better.
[00:52:22] So, I'm all for it.
[00:52:24] Oh, I said, well, I wish I had more time to talk with you guys
[00:52:26] of the players are itching to get into the game so say bye for now Owen and Fog
[00:52:30] but we'll definitely be catching him with you later.
[00:52:34] God, that's a day to the go. I think I know I was like I don't want to
[00:52:37] just stay no offense guys. I love you guys. I just want to go on the
[00:52:39] one panel. There's a stalker. Like literally you just hear Owen
[00:52:41] openness. It's gonna be like I just I'm just ready. You can watch
[00:52:45] a really dangerous. No, I don't know. My love. Those guys. I'm stoked.
[00:52:48] And Fog has experienced in this format because in the summit too he played on a
[00:52:52] that Peruvian team could not today.
[00:52:54] They lose to EG 30, but it was all best to fight for.
[00:52:56] It was in, that was in that.
[00:52:57] A full best to fight for, but it didn't.
[00:52:59] It was in the semifinals.
[00:53:00] So fog, he's going to be able to use that 20, 14 knowledge
[00:53:02] in this car.
[00:53:04] No one gets it like fog to get it, but I asked you guys earlier
[00:53:07] on today about your predictions for the whole tournament.
[00:53:10] I know that was tough for you to come up with one team.
[00:53:12] But now it's narrowed down.
[00:53:13] And this best to five, some bold things
[00:53:16] to either be said or predicted.
[00:53:18] On team horse.
[00:53:19] Team horse, you're liquid all the way.
[00:53:20] That's right.
[00:53:21] That's right.
[00:53:21] You're going to lick the liquid for the whole toilet.
[00:53:23] I'm counting me now.
[00:53:24] That's not the little toilet.
[00:53:25] And Bozo.
[00:53:26] He is struggling to save.
[00:53:27] Falkens of lights whilst it's in tired time.
[00:53:29] And they're going to slap liquid for you and put them to the airport tomorrow.
[00:53:32] We did see.
[00:53:33] She's an asshole.
[00:53:35] We did see Malarin in the mall.
[00:53:37] I was just walking around the hotel and I also was like,
[00:53:39] if you were sending her inside of information and anything about that.
[00:53:43] And both of them kind of just looked at each other.
[00:53:45] Loft and it's like, I don't even know how it here.
[00:53:47] They're double downing on that narrative.
[00:53:49] Yeah.
[00:53:50] Yeah, you can't trust these guys, okay.
[00:53:53] It's like the way they set it, they're smirkin' at each other.
[00:53:56] They don't even think they should be here like come on.
[00:53:58] There's gonna be a little something in there.
[00:53:59] There's a hero pick or something that they're gonna show us.
[00:54:02] They're thinking back to some scrim that you like,
[00:54:04] there's these scrims that happen sometimes,
[00:54:05] where it's some 15 minute long game.
[00:54:07] You get trashed in lanes.
[00:54:09] And the next dimension,
[00:54:10] and you just call G-15 minutes.
[00:54:11] And they're thinking back to that game like,
[00:54:12] oh boy, oh boy, and so you're just trying to,
[00:54:15] let's manifest this doesn't happen.
[00:54:18] Yeah, like those guys,
[00:54:19] I will just like, the most serious thing I would just say,
[00:54:21] it is a, he is a character, like in the game out of the game.
[00:54:24] Like when you talk to this guy, you can believe him,
[00:54:26] like one out of 10 times what he says.
[00:54:28] It's also that low.
[00:54:30] Literally that low, ice, ice, where.
[00:54:31] Like unless you talk to him like a really chill environment,
[00:54:33] like one of one about something non-dodo,
[00:54:35] I think this guy, he's permacabbing.
[00:54:37] So I can't believe him when he said,
[00:54:38] that I was his favorite talent.
[00:54:40] Yeah, that's right.
[00:54:42] That's insane.
[00:54:44] You might need more than just a grain of sauce.
[00:54:46] The whole box and I felt fine.
[00:54:49] Look, it's been a lot to talk about when it comes to the best five you guys have took
[00:54:54] put, sorry, you guys have put forth who you are having faith in when it comes to the best
[00:55:00] of five.
[00:55:01] But there's a lot that can go on at different small meta changes.
[00:55:04] How we're going to see first base bands potentially change up.
[00:55:07] But that's all in the distant future because for out right here and right now it's a game
[00:55:13] one drop between liquid and falcons.
[00:55:38] Yeah, while we were all busy talking across the
[00:55:41] Ladies, came out, ready, sitting at their best.
[00:55:46] Our audience is already ready to go cheer
[00:55:49] on what is going to be a fantastic best of five
[00:55:51] and hopefully five games within that realm that too.
[00:55:55] And I'll drop the shoot soon to show up
[00:55:56] where we're going to be seeing a timpistle,
[00:55:58] Huska Viper taking out by liquid, a shatter demon,
[00:56:01] and a shatter thing from the side of Falcons.
[00:56:04] Only shadows.
[00:56:05] Only from the deep dark depths of the shadows.
[00:56:08] They're just to remind you guys,
[00:56:09] when they played in the best of one it was a 63 minute game.
[00:56:12] I know this is a best of five.
[00:56:13] We've another best of five after just to remind you
[00:56:16] what could be happening in.
[00:56:17] I didn't need that, remember.
[00:56:19] I'm ready.
[00:56:21] Strappin, I think this series is going to be
[00:56:24] very different than several teams.
[00:56:26] I think team mentioned it before, but I think there's
[00:56:28] some overlap, but I think a while that heroes
[00:56:31] these teams play, you look at these first
[00:56:32] these bands from Falcons, what the heck is this, right?
[00:56:34] Like Falcons don't play any of these heroes.
[00:56:36] And similarly from Liquid, they kind of play these heroes,
[00:56:39] but not really. And so I think a lot of the bands would be,
[00:56:41] we're only banding your heroes.
[00:56:42] There's very little overlapping spans.
[00:56:44] Yeah, the main thing is the raise
[00:56:45] to get select through the pool.
[00:56:46] And I feel like Falcons are kind of invited.
[00:56:48] Look, please, try and take the raise
[00:56:50] that we have this, you know, a draft-flame prep for it.
[00:56:52] Of course, that is the beauty of the second pick.
[00:56:54] Your draft is a little bit easier.
[00:56:56] Like you always go, if they pick this here,
[00:56:57] we go for this.
[00:56:58] If they pick that, that shouldn't be surprises.
[00:57:00] I agree.
[00:57:01] The surprise, the praises.
[00:57:03] I mean, it's also like the teams have there
[00:57:05] a lot of days off, like you know what's coming.
[00:57:07] and also if we looked at it earlier, like Falcons,
[00:57:09] they have been second pick, you know that a lot of their first
[00:57:11] face bands could be, you know, for something later
[00:57:13] down the line, whether it's a primal beast or something else.
[00:57:16] And I think also with what T-Show,
[00:57:17] that you need to understand also like in BO5s,
[00:57:19] the specials, they absolutely can come out.
[00:57:21] They can be hard to like slot in bands
[00:57:23] and all the years you want to take out,
[00:57:24] but it's like the, you know, they're making
[00:57:26] not hitting, they can need to just drop it.
[00:57:28] And the, they're coming back for a bristle.
[00:57:30] They have played this year of plenty of times before.
[00:57:32] They don't really flex it so it's kind of just straight up
[00:57:34] in a martiro.
[00:57:35] I know there was a time where you could play that pulse five bristle back.
[00:57:38] I think that's cap.
[00:57:39] Those times are dead, yeah.
[00:57:40] The goof as it is full dead, so you can only play red.
[00:57:43] This hero is pretty good against Razor historically.
[00:57:46] It's not a hero we've seen very much this tournament, we're very much recently from
[00:57:49] him are.
[00:57:50] I mean, he's a hero that doesn't buy math and generally heroes don't have super high armor
[00:57:54] or lack the spells or bad against bristle because you get cool about good up and you're
[00:57:57] sad.
[00:57:58] So it's a solitary dude, but it is like, Razor can go made or offline, so it's not a lane
[00:58:03] counterpicked necessarily you're just picking a blind bristle and so there is some risk there.
[00:58:07] Yeah, they haven't played at all in the tournament so far with a bristle back and they lost
[00:58:11] on the plate and liquided run the carry bristle back against Falcons but I don't think
[00:58:15] that would influence Falcons to change bristle back that quickly for them.
[00:58:18] Yeah, I mean this is where some of that like very cool best of five elements come in in
[00:58:22] a best three people would not you all know something this created but because you know you get
[00:58:26] this two extra chances you can eviate a little bit already Falcons all showing kind of very
[00:58:33] started heroes, like Dream Protectors going to enable other people with an armor,
[00:58:37] versus going to exist and follow up his loader, so whoever he was to buy from the offline,
[00:58:41] they found guns are kind of inviting liquid like, hey, if you want to be aggressive, if you
[00:58:44] want to do a thing that you've done with your earthworks, maran, as an embers, please do it,
[00:58:48] because you're going to run into us, make a mistake, and that's when we break you.
[00:58:50] It's wife Falcons had that, what, 21 to 7, start line in the game wins, right?
[00:58:55] Falcons are just respecting liquid being the aggressive team with his picks.
[00:58:59] You know, also do like that liquid, took out like some of the trickier roles on the second phase.
[00:59:02] I feel like he always gets like the plus-40 once out of phase.
[00:59:05] I think it's not as often that people like choose him with like two of their bands.
[00:59:08] Because what we can bring, he's played them for the majority of the tournament.
[00:59:12] Like you just want the plus-4 range guys who lanes with the bristle, you just do some solid stuff.
[00:59:17] So I kind of like that. From the quote, I will say that I like the pairing of the bristle and tree in as well.
[00:59:22] Like bristle can like defend all the areas we can help with that.
[00:59:26] Now they make room-struck fapons.
[00:59:28] Bring a thing I like that yeah, I mean sun ray and some pressure
[00:59:32] You overgrowth I egg you got a runaway from your overgrowth like it's always a fun little matchup, but
[00:59:37] After that I'm always looking at grim through this position the range here is that crit has not be able to play because they're banned out
[00:59:43] Or gone the SD the hoodwink in the ringmaster you want a brush or you want some initiation so bind to stop the tough saves
[00:59:49] Little bit of leash against the razor. It's a little thing. So I could see like something else
[00:59:53] I mean so here we don't see as much, but I think when you see Phoenix snack fires
[00:59:57] So here on the can come to mind, I think it's also good with three and like three and it has a lot of
[01:00:01] down, but it is a very low damage hero. So I think you kind of want to compensate it.
[01:00:06] I can definitely see that. I think you also want some magic damage, like you mentioned,
[01:00:09] the synergy between three and Bristol and there is some there, but at the same time,
[01:00:12] low to sort of mancloth, things like this are very, very good against the zero.
[01:00:15] So you have to double down on that being a potential weakness of your job. So having some
[01:00:19] heroes that are the magic damage, or BKB piercing, or something along these lines, I mean,
[01:00:23] Final Fits in that perfectly, and Mollering is also just the best primal, and they've
[01:00:26] got the signature Queen Bats, so you know it's coming as soon as that Queen is bad.
[01:00:30] They've decided that's the only matchup that is unplayable, everything else is fine,
[01:00:33] so I'm curious what Nisha, who is famously a player who plays like literally every hero
[01:00:37] in the game, what his ideal counter pick is, because he's got that juicy 18 spot.
[01:00:42] Is Puck look at the kind of the hero that you're new to here?
[01:00:46] It's definitely not bad.
[01:00:47] It's a matchup that I think Falcons will be fine playing into, he's played that lane
[01:00:50] the ton and it's not like puck beats primal and lane. It's just it's just a powerful
[01:00:54] hero in the game. It's good with their supports. Exactly. You're not a bad pick by any means.
[01:00:58] I think we're concerned for Liquid is they look very scummishing, very happy to play like
[01:01:02] Tuss-Puss-Worn, ready to plus one, but Falcons, Primal wants to go BKB first side,
[01:01:06] Tim Bristle was going to be able to cushion that. They have ways to start the fight, force and
[01:01:10] egg, and only Tuss-Puss stops you from running away right now. So I'm looking at Liquid just
[01:01:14] being able to contain the five bit more because Falcons, they are going for that, you know,
[01:01:18] tanked us triple core, you know, blah, blah, blah,
[01:01:21] what we say, kind of every tournament
[01:01:22] that's kind of what that draft is,
[01:01:24] kind of leaning towards right now.
[01:01:27] Interesting.
[01:01:28] I mean, it's very good against Toss.
[01:01:30] Got to imagine it's probably quite good against Razor
[01:01:31] in lane as well.
[01:01:32] Like I could see, Jekir of Russell back
[01:01:34] to straight up beat, Razor Toss,
[01:01:36] if they were in the safe lane.
[01:01:38] Attacks we slow is our amazing.
[01:01:39] And with the change of the attack talent,
[01:01:42] you can't really talk about Jekir being an egg counter,
[01:01:44] but maybe at some point it'll be a clutch moment
[01:01:47] in the skirmishing fight where he gets a double hit and does kill the elk, but yeah, I think it's mainly just for the lane against that tough Grazer.
[01:01:54] I mean, for Liquid, I do feel like the puck would be good. I mean, other heroes that kind of came to mind are less.
[01:02:00] But maybe he's not playable, like double-blade, no buyers.
[01:02:04] That was supposed to be sworn. I think it's a bit similar, but it does give you like a lot of damage. He's mobile. He gives you the setup for like Phoenix to go in for Razor to catch up.
[01:02:12] The temple early is also a better, like it's a much better landing.
[01:02:16] It's primal.
[01:02:17] You can actually win the landing.
[01:02:18] It's primal.
[01:02:19] It will never ever pressure you.
[01:02:20] So you've got more oomph and more fighting around the mid lane.
[01:02:22] Falkens have tree.
[01:02:23] I hear that it's famously trash at fighting runes.
[01:02:26] And the good as tusk, Phoenix, these are all pretty powerful heroes in the middle.
[01:02:29] So these skirmishes, I think, favor a little bit when you look at the middle of the map.
[01:02:33] And so with the Stormpick, there is some pressure that if Hawkins will have to deal with,
[01:02:37] or make moves elsewhere.
[01:02:38] Like, there is, there is threat there.
[01:02:40] I am slightly worried to liquid where if falcons do get to make their stacks, farmers with
[01:02:45] the bristle, the primal, now a support gets it like an earlier glimmer cape, you know,
[01:02:48] you get in the glimmer versus a storm, we already mentioned a lack of big containment,
[01:02:52] I just feel like falcons are very content in this game. They're seeing liquid here, so
[01:02:56] okay, just contest like difference, dodge them, get to all timings and then falcons will
[01:03:00] be very happy. So it's really on liquid to continue trying to to break that, don't let them
[01:03:04] just sit back and farm in with a undelore band as well. That would have been just a very toxic
[01:03:10] of a bristle carry under the little flame to shove away the exist.
[01:03:13] I mean, what do you think about the heroes also?
[01:03:15] Because from what I'm a boxy, it's not really a Phoenix player.
[01:03:19] So, do you think they're just going to test Razor 3-4?
[01:03:21] They'll pick a new carry for making it to land with the Phoenix,
[01:03:25] so do you guys prefer to have the Razor as a one?
[01:03:27] Could just be a lane swap right where the heroes are in the correct roles
[01:03:31] where the players display different lanes.
[01:03:33] I mean, you could, but then...
[01:03:35] And still, just wondering, like, what they want out of their last pick.
[01:03:39] To me, this underlord band says that they're putting the picking a new carry because I think they have to pick out the phase, right?
[01:03:46] So if they're picking offline, they would not be banning underlord. It's like ace's favorite hero, and the hero is insanely good.
[01:03:51] So to me, that underlord band says that they're picking a carry in Falcons agrees, right? They ban the Luna.
[01:03:57] It's funny because tofu doesn't really like Phoenix either historically. It was a hero that he just never really wanted to play.
[01:04:02] It's obviously worse on four and better on five, the way the lane works, being able to run people down.
[01:04:07] but it is funny to me that they're picking it up because it's a hero. Yeah, it's a little not a big fan of
[01:04:12] Because so decision you kind of want you prefer to have meaty carries with Phoenix for sure. I think for the game itself
[01:04:20] I mean one here. I'm thinking about just because Mickey also plays a lot of his TA
[01:04:23] But maybe it's also not super easy if this trick hero does end up being before
[01:04:28] And I think you want something like slightly more manly than that like I think you want a man to buy her naturally
[01:04:34] ideally, or some here that can get in there like a little bit, because if you have another
[01:04:37] dude who's very cowardly, then you've got Razor and say some random, another range to
[01:04:42] here, you've got Storm 2, it can be a little weird having this triple range core, and only
[01:04:47] tusk is the fight like Storm can sort of start fights, but it's not the same way that
[01:04:50] am Mars does, it's a very different jump.
[01:04:52] That's when you always go back towards like Monkey King being that kind of middle ground, right?
[01:04:55] Even if they're playing Underlord, it's like sure the lane Monkey's gonna be okay, but in the game
[01:04:59] it's just too much to handle, so it's like maybe looking towards that plan, it gives you the
[01:05:03] to stun the map play, he's been buying Dessa first item to join his team, then he goes back
[01:05:07] for a man to be kicked off the way to accelerate the damage of storm raises through the
[01:05:11] tusk. I don't think I really want to see nature's profit here, but Liquid just because of
[01:05:17] treat doesn't care, primordas and care, there's what kind of doesn't care.
[01:05:21] This is an interesting spot, and I agree with what he said earlier, T, and that Liquid,
[01:05:25] there are heroes, their damage will fall off, and it's very bad against Python,
[01:05:28] and Lotus in the survivability items,
[01:05:30] so they do need, they need to tell a better early game.
[01:05:33] We need to open up power, speed up the map.
[01:05:35] Like these, these are things that are very important for them,
[01:05:37] because they won't storm, raise your feet.
[01:05:39] You can shrug a lot of this damage off.
[01:05:41] You can kite it.
[01:05:42] There's gonna be like a first item, Lotus or from Bristol.
[01:05:44] He's gonna be playing the whole game with his mini game trainer,
[01:05:46] Fletto Link, but there's a lot going on here
[01:05:49] that Liquid needs that good start.
[01:05:52] Yeah, I can't really find the one pick to like,
[01:05:55] that really allows me for Liquid,
[01:05:56] and I'm still not fully sure where
[01:05:58] I wanted to go with the Razer still because I do agree that from the bands it's more of an offline and then you do look for the new hero here
[01:06:05] I mean team mentioned the market in which I think is good
[01:06:08] I just wonder if there's something that's like slightly above
[01:06:12] Yeah, I mean even the market is not that black and why you'll be leaning is to Kiro
[01:06:16] So you're it's not like you're I don't think you will stop bristling when I think you're gonna draw and there's also a possibility
[01:06:21] I think you lose that way into bristling
[01:06:22] Yeah, I'm not finding the lane win here, it's more like play even lane and make out of it.
[01:06:29] Here we go for the old kids.
[01:06:32] I mean, this makes sense to me. You'll need a silver edge at some point.
[01:06:35] Like Kes is kind of a chasing hero, so there's, first of all, back is probably a double-edged sword,
[01:06:39] but I think it's the same time Kes is mega high armor, so, and you also really like one, like you can stand your spell.
[01:06:45] So I think you're probably very happy in the slain natural magnetapyre, you've got, there's some things that are very nice about this.
[01:06:52] I guess there's one problem though, it's like he is trying to stack up his buff and then
[01:06:55] versus going to buy looks to spell it.
[01:06:57] So there's going to be this one, like when he locks onto a support or a hero, if
[01:07:00] versus in position to help about, again, assuming it is a personal in the offering he wants
[01:07:03] to buy Lotus, and it's not suddenly personal in the character and completely different items.
[01:07:07] But yeah, it does give liquid that ability to be more aggressive through their carry.
[01:07:12] Yeah, we'll say that generally, when I look at liquid stress and other things, I think
[01:07:15] they had better lockdown.
[01:07:16] Like I think right now it's not super easy for them to lock the fight in a place where they
[01:07:20] one, right?
[01:07:21] Like, Razor doesn't want to over chase.
[01:07:22] You kind of want to fight around the X and rely a lot on your store and like, task
[01:07:26] to have like, you know, to lock people down nicely, whereas I think focus are giga good
[01:07:30] at team fighting and in the mid game if they get to space you.
[01:07:32] Okay.
[01:07:33] And we're just the win-win, right?
[01:07:34] So it tends to all about locking on to you trying to, if I want to be one new, you press
[01:07:37] win-run, you're chilling, you have detection, you can just threaten cans throughout all of
[01:07:42] the earlier fights.
[01:07:43] I think one thing that we haven't re-noted for liquid is Ace.
[01:07:45] If he is to get a good lane, get those double orders in play.
[01:07:49] if he just soaks up the initiation of Malrian or something from, you know, tree or anyone else,
[01:07:54] it will get freed from the niche of Mikator, I understand how to identify how to place the
[01:07:58] egg on top of it, right? So, I think there's kind of this race to the Orers, right? Can A's get
[01:08:03] to quick enough to buy time for Liquid to then shine in the earlier fights?
[01:08:07] Yeah, I mean, talking about A's, I think there's like, there's a pretty big skill track in
[01:08:11] his lane and that I think it's a pretty hard lane tree, winner entry, it sounds quite
[01:08:14] for them against razor tusks.
[01:08:16] So I think how well with our lane go,
[01:08:18] I think they need to survive to some extent,
[01:08:20] because your lane goes poorly,
[01:08:21] suddenly, winner, is gating on you,
[01:08:23] and primal is ganking you, losing double wisdom.
[01:08:25] And I think there's, they really need to hold strong
[01:08:27] in this lane and not bleed and give time for Nisha
[01:08:29] to abuse that middle-limat pressure
[01:08:31] and actually snowball again a little.
[01:08:32] To me, it's a lot about this early game, actually.
[01:08:34] And I mean, it's for both teams,
[01:08:36] like who can go through the gate,
[01:08:36] how well do you do in your lanes?
[01:08:38] For liquid, I would like Boxi to try and look,
[01:08:40] if he can eventually look to play into the safe lane,
[01:08:43] or even on niche as a lane,
[01:08:44] because if the game is kind of chill and stable,
[01:08:47] I slightly prefer the farthest draft going through this game.
[01:08:51] Of course, whatever you have like niche of us,
[01:08:53] my lane is a little about the active range, right?
[01:08:55] If you're giving the correct room to my lane,
[01:08:57] he's gonna poke his head with a haste and get a kill.
[01:08:59] If you're giving a damage or a regent with storm,
[01:09:01] he's not farming up that which made a lot quicker.
[01:09:03] So you are looking towards a boxy,
[01:09:06] and then this could be a bit weird.
[01:09:07] I think for farthest to make those rotations,
[01:09:08] like a train to cure out the best
[01:09:10] that's just running towards mid lane,
[01:09:11] They can with like in this setup and all this stuff, but yeah, they're just going to be
[01:09:15] attractive. It's going to be mindful and just don't allow an issue to do what he normally does on
[01:09:18] storm.
[01:09:19] Well, it feels like both teams want a little bit of stability, a little bit of chillness coming
[01:09:24] out in their game play, because that's what that drafts want. But couldn't, you said to
[01:09:28] for not normally a Phoenix player doesn't normally lean that way. Do you think that that adds
[01:09:32] a little bit of data to the liquid line up to you? Like, I've got full faith in my boy
[01:09:37] making this position five transition.
[01:09:38] Yeah, he's he's drafted. He's the one who clicks it. I don't know if there's like I want to play the bird
[01:09:42] Because if you run off town you play the bird is like, nah, I am the bird man. He is the bird man. Well, look, it is a game one in a best of five
[01:09:50] So whether the shenanigans or not, there is gonna be a lot of fun that us viewers get to have here as we get on into it game one between Falcons and liquid
[01:10:08] There we go, ladies and gentlemen, I'm ready to get into the action here of Game
[01:10:18] One between Team Liquid and Falcons.
[01:10:22] It's going to be exciting, we're seeing both of these lineups come out with some pretty
[01:10:25] hot picks and then towards the end, the whole kind of question of where things are going
[01:10:29] to go in terms of the carries.
[01:10:30] They end up with this, cares on the side of Liquid for Mick and Falcons.
[01:10:34] They're going to rest there, sort of, hoats on skaters win-rangeer, what do you make of this?
[01:10:38] this is pretty interesting. This is probably one of the more exciting
[01:10:42] matchups that we are going to get to start off with because we knew at least
[01:10:44] got the cover of the Liquid Falcon's Best of One which is a insane game is
[01:10:48] a go at that 70 minute back and forth. Liquid I think took it with the
[01:10:51] first of all back. Super interesting game. This one, I feel like Falcon has gone
[01:10:55] for their standard stability, right? Their tanky cores. They're going to eventually
[01:10:59] become tanky and a props to not die. And I think that's why Liquid goes for the
[01:11:02] Kes final pick. Even though it's at risky hereout times, it's one that
[01:11:05] provide you infinite damage eventually, right?
[01:11:07] So I think that's something really cool.
[01:11:09] And yeah, I'm not really sure what we're going to get.
[01:11:11] So I think we'll be able to find out
[01:11:13] as this game kicks off.
[01:11:14] And it is brought to you by BlastLameSupps Spotser, Polymarket,
[01:11:17] the official prediction market of BlastLameSupps.
[01:11:19] Let's see what we get.
[01:11:20] Now, we're ready to smoke from and out.
[01:11:22] From both sides, the wrap round, coming in from snaking
[01:11:24] to get some good info here for the team.
[01:11:28] It's pretty good to be aggressive with that.
[01:11:29] But yeah, let's talk about the supports on this.
[01:11:31] Because when we were saying ourselves right through the draft,
[01:11:33] You look a Falcon's lineup, they get the tree, and they're late at down the line, they
[01:11:37] also get the jacera. I mean, these are kind of two of the hottest supports in the game right now.
[01:11:40] I mean, what do you think some liquids plan is letting those two supports through the draft?
[01:11:46] They also do have very strong reactive supports in a way, too.
[01:11:49] That's is this because something that tree I would say doesn't.
[01:11:52] I mean, it doesn't hate playing against, but obviously doesn't like to play against the
[01:11:55] many things. Is it tax-peak slow? Because being able to trade effectively is kind of annoying.
[01:11:59] So, you have tag team attacks slow, you have the fire spirits, etc.
[01:12:03] So, I do think that Liquid has an idea that they wanted to build the play versus the tree.
[01:12:08] The jacquire on the other hand, not sure, because these two heroes together are pretty damn powerful.
[01:12:14] Teamfight, they provide the landing prowess.
[01:12:18] Yeah, we're sure already.
[01:12:19] We'll have to provide in the visible lane setup, a minority, and just not in this retreat.
[01:12:23] Just see how the Hamlet's downage ace takes.
[01:12:25] Now, when Snankings have to get that set up on to him and he's getting the angle for the shackle.
[01:12:29] I could be a pretty nasty safe land here from Falcon.
[01:12:32] I mean, you were saying in one turn to me and during the draft in terms of the lanes,
[01:12:36] you feel what a lot of focus is going to be on sort of what Boccy can do on the task
[01:12:39] here for Liquid in the early game with sort of potential to sort of turn up and position
[01:12:43] as the Falcon is not going to quite expect him.
[01:12:45] Yeah, I'm more so than I think Boccy usually ends up being that really good laner in terms
[01:12:50] of just moving around, not playing the lane.
[01:12:52] Sometimes he doesn't, maybe hurt his off-laner at times, but in terms of movement, that's
[01:12:55] something that Boccy really does accelerate.
[01:12:57] I'm not being said though, the lane setups are pretty strong, like I can't really
[01:13:01] complain about how liquids got it all set up. It's pretty strong bottom. They should
[01:13:04] be able to trade pretty effectively because of the massive stick charges. Top. This is
[01:13:08] a, this is probably the most volatile one. I think we're wondering to tree can own, but
[01:13:12] I do think there's some, you know, this attack speed slope from the tag team can catch
[01:13:16] some off guard. And then mid, storms should do very well versus the primal beast. So,
[01:13:21] I'm actually quite happy to get to see primal beast again. I forget who I was talking to this morning. I think it's
[01:13:36] Kenswer T and I was like, I honestly just want to see more of this here and there's a lot of special team players who still play it right now.
[01:13:42] I'm trying to be the best right in the mid and back right on the primal like this this is kind of
[01:13:48] Like he's had tournaments where teams they wouldn't even consider letting it true
[01:13:53] And you know, you know, of course trying to make it sort of the case for that again here a blast and six
[01:13:58] Like there's something they will just not let him touch the primal beast because they know that they're gonna give them so such a difficult time
[01:14:04] Trying to not only just laying against it, but play against it and it's entire thing like in a game
[01:14:09] Yeah, this game going. It's going to be one of those where he starts to
[01:14:12] be back. Oh, taking top, double nuts. They're taking turn and taking down
[01:14:17] their ace and boxy with the chase. They'll be able to find their first
[01:14:20] blood flick with it as they can get caught out a little too far up the lane.
[01:14:25] Liquid they choose the perfect time to strike back. It's got to be a
[01:14:28] bit more careful on that. Because that is a lane indeed in which I don't
[01:14:32] know if you're necessarily expecting to see the sort of safe lane
[01:14:35] to start losing lives.
[01:14:37] So, licked a finding a good chance to find a kill of that.
[01:14:40] And Boxy's playing the lane perfectly right now, at least in terms of blocking camps, and then also cutting trees.
[01:14:45] So, he actually got the lane in a good position for Ace, and then there's no trees on the sides.
[01:14:49] So, tonight, honestly, Snakes are stepped up a way too far.
[01:14:51] Run to the tower there.
[01:14:53] Yeah, Towska's a primal though, right?
[01:14:56] Look at his mid lane.
[01:14:57] It's not like that's it.
[01:14:58] Right?
[01:14:59] Yeah, that's me.
[01:15:00] That's me.
[01:15:01] He's turning up.
[01:15:02] today. I mean, we'll see what sort of
[01:15:03] Malarin does about this because
[01:15:04] obviously, well, as a primal,
[01:15:05] you do have a lot of options in
[01:15:06] terms of like grabbing creep waves
[01:15:08] and such. But you know, these
[01:15:09] were these first few levels.
[01:15:10] He's not being able to sort of
[01:15:11] go for that sort of setup has to
[01:15:13] play the lane into the matchup.
[01:15:14] And yeah, Nisha is absolutely
[01:15:16] destroying him. This is, you know,
[01:15:18] quite the beat down here from
[01:15:20] Nisha on the storm.
[01:15:21] I'm glad to see that actually went
[01:15:22] for the storm. I heard the
[01:15:23] panel talking about it as well
[01:15:25] about like maybe the puck can
[01:15:26] come out. I think this also
[01:15:27] provides them something we were
[01:15:28] talking about. Maybe they could run
[01:15:29] into some damage issues. The
[01:15:30] storm in the Kes are going to
[01:15:31] given that extra scaling that maybe if the oras and everything come out from Falcons,
[01:15:35] they'll have damage. Just in case of like a security blanket, if they don't get off to
[01:15:38] it, they'll have, they'll have heroes that do damage with the game progresses.
[01:15:43] Let's see what Bowering does though in terms of movement too, because we have seen
[01:15:45] him when he gets boots on primal, sometimes he just roams. So let's see if liquid is prepared for
[01:15:50] those type of movement too, if it doesn't end up happening.
[01:15:53] I'm gonna make it again and pretty low, but it's prepared for this full of regen, one
[01:16:01] charges and such to remain strong in that sort of situation.
[01:16:06] Oh, and did want to point this up too?
[01:16:08] Because until we did swap it, I like to always mention the Phoenix when you're seeing
[01:16:11] tanky cores, he did go for hotspot this game.
[01:16:14] So that, it's got to matter quite a bit, the sun rang if he's able to get them off
[01:16:18] versus primal and bristle back, especially as the game progresses once he got more points
[01:16:22] I said it. Absolutely right.
[01:16:24] Because Falcon's lineup, they're pretty tanky,
[01:16:27] in particular, they're a bar and Maori,
[01:16:29] and these beefy cores,
[01:16:30] you need every sort of bit of damage
[01:16:32] that you can get coming out of liquid's lineup
[01:16:34] when you're trying to deal with Falcon's
[01:16:35] and those that put them in the damn pipe.
[01:16:37] So, yeah, I need a lot of protection
[01:16:39] to come up and tow through on this Phoenix pick.
[01:16:42] And limited aggregators.
[01:16:43] Yeah, that's just a lot of...
[01:16:45] There's a winter entry, but primal,
[01:16:46] if you pop strap, we'll get hit it.
[01:16:48] Briss on tree are not likely to hit it.
[01:16:50] So there's definitely some really good positions where with the shard, or even just the
[01:16:54] just the ag in general, it can be very important.
[01:16:57] So big potential for the scope for this game.
[01:17:01] It's a back off a little bit here, at the moment, a mechanical through the don't want to
[01:17:05] mess around too much with a mark in the lane.
[01:17:09] Not a lot they can do to sort of slow down the farm over a mile so far.
[01:17:13] So I mean, perfectly fine time down here, trading very nicely with the CS and making keeping
[01:17:17] very even 27 and 7 is the 27 and 5 and the same to be said so far for the other side
[01:17:23] lane, skitter and a both getting very similar amounts out of this early game. It really
[01:17:29] is just this mid lane when he's having it. He's having a phenomenal start. So the fact
[01:17:35] that they are going to have this storm popping off from the beginning you know this could
[01:17:38] set up for a lot of big moves to come out from liquid especially because these should
[01:17:41] does have sort of support such as boxy on the tusk by a side right?
[01:17:45] They've got a lot of potential to make early plays on liquid and really just, you know,
[01:17:50] abuse the fact that they're going to have this incredibly strong storm.
[01:17:53] Very early in the game and we'll see him.
[01:17:55] He's a man here getting the angle on towards Cret,
[01:17:57] he should have a closing on towards him.
[01:17:59] In fact, Nisha, he's looking for more.
[01:18:01] He says, you guys have got Cret.
[01:18:02] I want to try and see if we can bully for more.
[01:18:04] Push Marino way.
[01:18:05] It's a tower.
[01:18:06] I mean, it's started to take a,
[01:18:08] a beating pretty early on.
[01:18:09] you know, six and a half minutes in the storm mid. It's pretty much taken away the tier
[01:18:14] once. You know, you know, I don't even see that from a storm in the first or six minutes
[01:18:21] of the game, right? This level of pressure is pretty unprecedented when you consider the
[01:18:25] heroes that they have and they're going to be able to finish off his tower here for seven
[01:18:29] minutes, niches of storm taking my reans tower away. I don't think you would have expected
[01:18:34] that one. That's a crazy star from it.
[01:18:37] Now, I love the way they played around him too.
[01:18:39] I think the panel is also, I think,
[01:18:40] Queen had mentioned how the two supports on the side
[01:18:42] of Falcons are pretty.
[01:18:44] I mean, Jikiro can move, but tree is the only one
[01:18:46] that likes to contest around ruins either.
[01:18:48] So Nisha has two supports move.
[01:18:50] They're better around fighting those ruins,
[01:18:51] and they have an advantage.
[01:18:52] And I love what he does there in dragging the creep wave.
[01:18:54] He drags the creep wave, made well,
[01:18:56] going for the aggressive move.
[01:18:57] They get, yeah, that whole tower's gone.
[01:18:59] Great CSing, so off to a hot start.
[01:19:01] This is how Liquid likes to play.
[01:19:02] You know, we, the panel is talking about,
[01:19:03] and we've been seeing throughout the progression of this tournament.
[01:19:05] They are accelerating back to that liquid that we've seen before,
[01:19:08] where 30 minutes they have that advantage and they like to press.
[01:19:10] So good start in terms of lanes right now.
[01:19:13] Amara is the top for the side of Falcons,
[01:19:15] so he is still getting that free farm,
[01:19:16] but it seems liquid to do very good in these other lanes.
[01:19:20] Ace is six at top.
[01:19:22] On the bottom, that's not pretty aggressively.
[01:19:24] If a component is liquid with a three at the course,
[01:19:26] you know, this bristles still rather a tough target to take down,
[01:19:30] but the three at the will happen.
[01:19:32] So again, the liquid, even finding these sort of chances
[01:19:35] right, you thought, you was having a great start on this bristle. The liquid, if they're able
[01:19:40] to find out what chooses to kill him off in this early stage of the game, no things could
[01:19:44] start to crumble pretty early for Falcons. And I was saying already, 8 minutes in, 3-0 and
[01:19:49] already a 2K gold lead here for liquid. They're having a pretty crazy start to this one
[01:19:54] fault.
[01:19:55] Nishu's got another power room too. They're looking to just play around the store spare
[01:19:58] with his success. And yet the bristle stepped up too far. We saw there. Just attack team,
[01:20:02] plus the Falcon Rush.
[01:20:03] It's a bit more damage.
[01:20:04] Yeah.
[01:20:05] I'll think much about more too.
[01:20:07] Look at this primal with him, using his tower so early too, he adds so much information.
[01:20:11] I mean, nobody can come over to help him, right?
[01:20:13] That's the problem right now from Falcon's.
[01:20:15] These sort of means can come out to liquid and Falcon's.
[01:20:17] They just sort of have to accept it.
[01:20:19] That's going to be mowering dead.
[01:20:21] The difference just continues to grow here between Nisha and Maureen this game.
[01:20:25] Yeah, Nisha, he turned up today.
[01:20:27] He is ready to rock and roll.
[01:20:28] And then there's nobody ready to stop him for.
[01:20:30] that they're limited to save us to right we didn't really talk about it too much in terms of the game but there are
[01:20:36] stuns but they can be a bit difficult to land on the storm spirit this game if they get an initial
[01:20:39] stun yet they can get the follow-up ones but getting the initial one could be a bit complicated
[01:20:43] until they have those items and I'm like we're gonna see the Mcsullery right is we've seen a
[01:20:48] bunch of the racers do this not this exact skill build but this is the literal I'm going to
[01:20:52] farm as fast as possible build and it's just going to go to that Mac build that we've seen
[01:20:56] popularized. So in terms of progression, we could look to see them contest these
[01:21:02] at this tier one top pretty soon. The support levels aren't really the best on
[01:21:05] the side of liquid, but around the course they can rally.
[01:21:12] So like Malreen wants to make a move down bottom. I think they're anticipating that
[01:21:17] because they've been left alone.
[01:21:19] I'm going to start coming in from the KMEGET.
[01:21:24] It's ready to turn up at the altar.
[01:21:26] It's going to be on the jump lap of the side as well.
[01:21:28] Make it get so away.
[01:21:29] And now, let's put their ready to turn and punish this dive.
[01:21:31] Marry's going to bounce down his ground.
[01:21:33] What's the crowd on towards Nisha?
[01:21:34] But Marry is dead again.
[01:21:36] Falcons, they can't get the kill.
[01:21:38] And they can't get Marry now to there.
[01:21:40] So Marry's game continues to suffer on the primal.
[01:21:44] Now, after we sit, we saw one to see his movements.
[01:21:46] You've got five kill participation in the army.
[01:21:48] I have to be careful about how they go about this and my stuff.
[01:21:54] Already tanking this time to tank you for them to take down.
[01:21:57] They're well be able to fully commit to get the kill.
[01:21:59] And we'll end up losing boxy for the effort.
[01:22:04] I thought they would have him.
[01:22:05] But Amar sometimes when he's playing this grisso,
[01:22:07] honestly, just these little turns that he does on the hero.
[01:22:09] Just get against a ton of coil spread out onto them.
[01:22:11] All those kills up two heroes.
[01:22:13] So good initial move great.
[01:22:15] from look at the rainbow T.B.s in.
[01:22:17] So that's straight away.
[01:22:19] That was a weirdo.
[01:22:20] Did you see that interaction, by the way?
[01:22:22] He got a new snowball, but I guess it was while he was grappling.
[01:22:24] I mean pulled himself out of the snowball, did I see that?
[01:22:26] Yeah, because he disappeared for a second, right?
[01:22:29] Yeah.
[01:22:30] Oh, he got snurled, say it.
[01:22:31] Oh, wait, he didn't.
[01:22:32] He's not in the snowball, but I think that's exactly in the way.
[01:22:34] As you say, the animation in grappling's retreat was interrupted,
[01:22:37] but then when he finished grappling, he gets back for the back of the action,
[01:22:40] though, okay, he gets over this time.
[01:22:43] I'm the back of Kant of End, of course,
[01:22:45] cooldowns have already been used, so I think, you know,
[01:22:47] Lick was, it seems going to be kind of looking
[01:22:49] to be alive.
[01:22:50] A pro, what you're doing down is not safe anymore.
[01:22:52] Certainly isn't here one now in the pressure from Falcons.
[01:22:55] And the reins, same side.
[01:22:57] Nisha, I'm boxy bullet to continue to bully Malrine
[01:23:01] as they take him out once again,
[01:23:03] doing everything they can to try and ensure that it's going
[01:23:06] to be very half the marines to get his game online this game.
[01:23:10] All about shutting down, but look at the word placement
[01:23:12] from Lick with it.
[01:23:13] This isn't about shutting down Mounting. I don't know what is triple alerts kind of place around the mid area.
[01:23:18] Just to be sure to emphasize how much they can and depth so far they are shutting them down.
[01:23:22] These two kills bottom though matter Owen.
[01:23:23] A more getting this, I mean he's already farmed.
[01:23:26] Catches up even more so getting these kills and they get themselves a tower.
[01:23:29] So liquid did hemorrhage a decent amount down bottom now.
[01:23:32] And I'm looking forward to see how the bill works out from the camera.
[01:23:35] Of course we're getting this floods which pretty much seem to come kind of standard on the carry.
[01:23:39] carry chances nowadays, but because of the bristle, he's going to be going straight for the silver edge after the plan.
[01:23:45] So, a very active, very anti-bristle build is a significant situation. We'll see how it works out.
[01:23:51] So, we're going to get the setup onto ways. He's got the mates in here up, but we'll not be enough to save them by far as they're looking down.
[01:23:57] Jack will show and bring in the damage to take him out. So, all these consider all the sort of
[01:24:02] focus that Liquid have been able to put on Maureen in the early game.
[01:24:05] We're now seeing a falcon striking back, killing off the calves down bottom, killing the
[01:24:09] razor of top.
[01:24:10] They're definitely taking away a bit of that momentum that maybe liquid could have tried
[01:24:15] to sort of ride with a little better.
[01:24:17] A great, honestly bad razor stepped up super far on his Mac timing, so that's a pretty
[01:24:21] big kill.
[01:24:22] The falcons was able to find liquid, looking to persist for a chase forward here in
[01:24:25] the shirt.
[01:24:26] Should be out of fine-crip.
[01:24:28] Crip, hold me caught.
[01:24:31] He's sure of course continuing to bring the action two zero three full
[01:24:35] is start from him so far this game on the storm.
[01:24:38] So yeah, like quick, it feels like they've got to do their best to kind of
[01:24:41] keep safe and an active around Nisha, you know, when Nisha's not there,
[01:24:45] things haven't been going too hot for them.
[01:24:48] Just got to be a little bit better positioned in particular.
[01:24:51] Like the ace on Razor was just at the tower pretty much.
[01:24:54] So he was a super far off when they just had gone on him did not have backup
[01:24:58] a mar. As the blade male, they do not want to mess with him. It looks like also to get your
[01:25:03] best, just want to point that out. 2K HP on him.
[01:25:08] I mean, it is a very, what you're asking? I think it might just be like avoid the bristle
[01:25:12] error. I think it's a little bit. Yeah. No, I was going to say exactly that until they sort of
[01:25:17] have that first time on their chemics, switching it up again going back to sort of the normal build
[01:25:21] up. He's got the best I could up. I think it's a different game for him in terms of itemization.
[01:25:28] Because you are probably going to eventually want that break.
[01:25:32] But I think sort of as you realize, going for it first can, it's just super risky right?
[01:25:36] You know, nobody wants to kind of build a silver edge first item as the carry.
[01:25:40] No, and this is one of those games where I don't really always mention this.
[01:25:42] But this is one of those games where your playing versus train protector.
[01:25:45] It's been banned so much when I never knew the talk about this.
[01:25:47] But tree has always kind of put into the carry mentality of, I need a man, though.
[01:25:50] Like, you know, what do they want to get these EKBs and stuff either for the overall growth?
[01:25:53] So this could be the best song.
[01:25:54] It could be a little bit of a different build for Mickey.
[01:25:57] I want to see how he does pivot in terms of what he's playing against, there's, okay,
[01:26:00] so they can just as able to walk in and take the shrines. So good levels for Faulkens.
[01:26:07] Then a mark.
[01:26:08] He is feeling how strong he is, especially with that living on the way, Mill.
[01:26:12] Yeah, no, he can kind of start knocking on the door on either of the side lanes.
[01:26:18] And from liquid, maybe if they bring the full five, they're going to be able to bring
[01:26:22] a response to pushing back at the least, but killing them on out this stage of the
[01:26:26] to be super tough, you know, even sort of that's the timing that you hoped for.
[01:26:31] Sure, they're able to take him down that once early, but it's going to be half of them to bring him down again.
[01:26:36] So, liquid will see what sort of plays they can make.
[01:26:39] I'm avoiding the bristle. Here we go. Smoke up from the mid-Nesia Tofu and Boxi.
[01:26:44] They're ready to swing down towards the bottom lane. Try and find Sketer, right?
[01:26:47] Because at the moment, Sketer or Maureen, much easier kills and very much achievable kills for liquid at this point.
[01:26:54] He's got a bow, he's got an all-powerance.
[01:26:55] He's got an amp damage for this fight, too.
[01:26:57] So, Sketer, getting jumped immediately.
[01:27:01] Yup, they're gonna have to catch you on him.
[01:27:03] Four takes with the ready.
[01:27:05] Sketer is gonna know where to run.
[01:27:06] We'll try and shoot back here with the focus fire,
[01:27:08] but outnumbered and taken out.
[01:27:10] They'll get the kill.
[01:27:11] Same side, though.
[01:27:13] Ace up on the top lane.
[01:27:14] A dying example.
[01:27:15] That's sort of a death that you don't necessarily expect to be happening.
[01:27:19] And I think, you know, from liquid perspective,
[01:27:21] it shouldn't be happening, right?
[01:27:23] Especially where he's standing, right?
[01:27:25] Like Ace just being, that's two times that he's pushing a little too far forward while the
[01:27:28] play is happening on the opposing side too.
[01:27:30] So trying to push the limits to get punished for it.
[01:27:33] Mourine, about to have his blink dagger done, so could definitely look to see Falcons play
[01:27:38] around that one more, but skaters death that hurts.
[01:27:40] That is a pretty painful death for the win, Ranger.
[01:27:42] He was starting, I mean he hadn't died if he was having a pretty solid game.
[01:27:45] Valents had to slow down the momentum a lot.
[01:27:47] Yeah, a couple of best backs up back and saying, Spill.
[01:27:50] So we'll see how I sort of picture itself up after that one.
[01:27:53] Yeah, liquid.
[01:27:55] Still trying to kind of keep the men pushed in.
[01:27:58] The niches build.
[01:27:59] Off the cars down.
[01:28:00] There's to go for the Lincoln's fair.
[01:28:02] Have the level of protection.
[01:28:04] Again, sort of the limited setup and catch that Fowl can do.
[01:28:07] That's really interesting actually.
[01:28:09] If he does go for that Lincoln's version of the primal in the shackle.
[01:28:12] Start the two specific single target.
[01:28:13] This tables.
[01:28:14] Because we've seen more.
[01:28:15] Look at the sheavals.
[01:28:16] A lot of players doing RC wine.
[01:28:18] I think it's time long.
[01:28:19] The second item sheathers sometimes risks a lot of physical damage, so we'll see if he does.
[01:28:24] Why do you suddenly back? Okay, item timing's are here. So Ace creeps.
[01:28:27] They've got everything I'm looking for. Let's see if the falcons is ready.
[01:28:32] So look, cause obviously Lars, maybe sort of those deaths could work in their favor.
[01:28:36] If Ace kind of baits Falcons in onto them, whilst he has the back of this time.
[01:28:41] True.
[01:28:42] Very true.
[01:28:42] So our look.
[01:28:44] I'm going to look at the work the press again. They're going to try to find now in first.
[01:28:47] But Marion does get the grab off.
[01:28:48] I'm going to ask Bob and Matt, come out and have fun.
[01:28:50] Great, that's going to be a simple kitchen just there.
[01:28:53] And the superman is not going to do a whole lot of falcons.
[01:28:55] They can kite that for now.
[01:28:57] Skidards, as you want to be able to dive in and get more.
[01:28:59] I guess I love Lee Shes.
[01:29:00] She doesn't like it.
[01:29:01] You may have followed them with the focus, but I'm going in.
[01:29:03] Nicky, I'll try and start the curve with the ols of that.
[01:29:05] But he is just gone.
[01:29:07] Nice.
[01:29:08] He's going to zip in.
[01:29:09] But he immediately answers it back cows.
[01:29:10] He has noticed this is cleaning up anyone.
[01:29:12] So if I could just come in there with the hot team fight,
[01:29:16] Liquid, they were definitely trying to make some sort of bait play happen there,
[01:29:19] with Ace, but it does not work out for them whatsoever.
[01:29:23] I mean, they try their best to kind of avoid the bristle,
[01:29:26] where we saw a niche's focus, kind of shift elsewhere,
[01:29:28] but it's a very messy team fight from Liquid and Falcons.
[01:29:32] They made that fight look pretty easy.
[01:29:34] It was, I mean, now Reigns is hiding in the trees.
[01:29:36] I don't think they expected them all to be there,
[01:29:38] where he gets the perfect grab. He goes for the task.
[01:29:40] It's prevent any type of any, any save, anything in the ice path
[01:29:43] follow is really the the crescendo that seals the deal. Everything just right on top of them
[01:29:47] they get burst before they can even get any drain. And from there the fights kind of over so falcons
[01:29:51] that was liquid timing of three core items being hit and it moves the fight pretty drastically.
[01:29:59] I have to have a better approach a better way to start fights in particular on liquid.
[01:30:02] It is going to be hard for them to start fights a lot of times though I didn't want to say this as well as
[01:30:06] falcons. They have this blank primal so he can always start fights and then they have this
[01:30:10] super into the reason the show has banned every game by the way this super annoying
[01:30:13] train that's just giving you all the time either placing a ward in an unexpected position
[01:30:17] as we solve top or just giving information with this body so I would say yeah for liquid
[01:30:21] being able to find the proper fights might be a bit difficult in terms of 5-5's.
[01:30:28] Yes especially when in terms of
[01:30:32] Oxy you're gonna get the fact of an issue you're just gonna waste your crap
[01:30:35] to the other.
[01:30:36] Lay down the ice spot on the box.
[01:30:38] The ball still falls.
[01:30:39] These takes enough.
[01:30:40] You should try and look for more of any startable very low on the mana.
[01:30:44] The summary coming down to Malorie and the open grove from Snaking comes out.
[01:30:47] Fox lulled to liquid back.
[01:30:48] And it's just going to be a crit going down.
[01:30:51] Everybody else gets out alive.
[01:30:53] That seems like for liquid overall right now.
[01:30:56] Even though they do have pretty decent team fight on their lineup, rallied around the Phoenix.
[01:30:59] I would say their lineup is just more about getting these small pickoffs in terms of taking the full on head on.
[01:31:04] a full-on head on 5-5 engagement for his falcons at the moment.
[01:31:08] Just because the damage, like you said, this bristle, I don't know if they have damage
[01:31:10] for a more.
[01:31:11] I think not, they cannot kill this bristle.
[01:31:14] A mar is exactly where he wants to be.
[01:31:18] One of the reasons why they go for that first pick bristle and why they have done so many
[01:31:22] times in the past, they feel confident that a mar, whatever the situation is going to
[01:31:27] get to this point, where this mid-game, he's just absolutely the top threat that
[01:31:32] would have to be fully aware of his position on the map.
[01:31:34] Because if he turns up for the 5v5,
[01:31:37] Liquid just sort of have to accept that there will be this hero
[01:31:39] that they can't kill, and is going to be slowly sort of bringing them down
[01:31:43] with this output of damage.
[01:31:45] Yeah, he's definitely a pretty big concern.
[01:31:47] And it's pretty crazy how bristle it.
[01:31:48] It wasn't the most prioritized hero yet in this tournament.
[01:31:51] But you know, these best of five, especially,
[01:31:53] they're going to start forming their own mini-metas,
[01:31:55] because these teams, if one team likes it,
[01:31:57] the other, he's going to be prioritized by the other team.
[01:31:59] So we're probably going to see a lot of bristle back.
[01:32:01] Alright, we might see a lot of bristle back prior to our ties.
[01:32:04] And I don't know if I'm having that saying that,
[01:32:05] because we saw so much for a speak bristle last year,
[01:32:07] it actually drove me insane.
[01:32:08] Yeah. No, it says it's going to be interesting to see how they're
[01:32:10] up to in the drafts. And...
[01:32:12] I didn't get because of well-bought from Foulton's side,
[01:32:14] they have that strength to get picked up for us,
[01:32:16] and it could be, it could be with our Mars,
[01:32:19] but we see this, you know, if they want to switch it up.
[01:32:21] Nicholas is going to try and use the sort of information
[01:32:23] that they have from Foulton's government to play the other side.
[01:32:26] The map gets this roach on.
[01:32:27] It's a bit of a smoke coming out from Falcons, but they won't be able to connect to this
[01:32:31] entire, as that's going to be the Rochang Gord, and Nisha would be a just ready to play with them.
[01:32:36] I was going to start chasing them down though.
[01:32:39] So there's a power.
[01:32:40] I mean, he knows, yeah, he can just pretty much 1v5 ends of them right now, and they
[01:32:44] have to run away from them.
[01:32:45] They just, they just, they know they're not going to come back and fight him, you know,
[01:32:48] that they've just got a continue to just run from them off, as the wrap round is coming
[01:32:52] in from Falcons.
[01:32:53] They're going to look at actually finding the issue, they catch them off to the side by
[01:32:56] surprise and that's the ages kind of gone as soon as it was picked up.
[01:32:59] Nisha was not ready for them to just sort of turn and make the jump onto him and they do
[01:33:03] have very cleanly as well, you know, not the biggest amount of lockdown that they have
[01:33:08] at their disposal, but it was enough. So 100 to 0 in the once, so for all that
[01:33:13] opportunity to take in the brochure, that's the ages immediately gone and it's
[01:33:16] falcons that are back home with the pressure.
[01:33:20] This head's, I mean, I'm alright. He knows how powerful he is. He's just running at five
[01:33:23] here I was giving info. I think Nisha was I'd be honest I think Nisha was trying to catch the smoke
[01:33:28] and then just zipping away but he didn't even get kicked by the initial rock stun. It just was the charge through that hits him and then he gets
[01:33:34] changed stun and killed the one time.
[01:33:35] Tofu?
[01:33:37] Careful.
[01:33:39] I see how much Falcons once a
[01:33:42] apply pressure on the mid lane. This tier one should be there for the title.
[01:33:47] The rally around this bristle is a concern and now I'm like you know you're mentioning the
[01:33:53] Yeah, the super right to hit Q to find out.
[01:33:55] Yeah, he is doing the best on man to build.
[01:33:56] But I said, you can't go after when your play versus tree.
[01:33:59] But yeah, I don't know.
[01:34:00] There's bristles.
[01:34:01] They really big problem.
[01:34:03] I don't know how they tackle through it with their line
[01:34:05] up right now.
[01:34:05] And that's a super long fight with Sunray, which is just
[01:34:08] looking very difficult with the way the Falcon's
[01:34:10] posture and the way they're itemizing.
[01:34:12] So the press, you all start getting set off.
[01:34:14] And that brings the bases.
[01:34:16] I mean, everybody has to be that right.
[01:34:17] There's sort of vortex into like a task punch and a snowball
[01:34:21] stun, whilst you have to feel the max range laying down the summary, then that's what
[01:34:27] it feels like.
[01:34:28] And that's still amazing.
[01:34:29] You know, that's not a guaranteed bristle back kill by fall.
[01:34:32] Oh, and then it's your two.
[01:34:34] It's like if he just popped a blade or a blade melt during the sun, I think the Phoenix
[01:34:37] actually dies incredibly fast too.
[01:34:39] So you have to, yeah, it's going to be interesting how they approach the fights.
[01:34:42] The gold, it's still very, very even.
[01:34:44] But liquid, at least when when it feels like they want it to be coming out with an advantage
[01:34:48] in this game, where around their storm and that advantage isn't really there.
[01:34:51] getting to do their thing where they sit back at the streets, get online. The three
[01:34:54] cores are formed on like this. So we'll see if they can actually approach the fights
[01:34:57] because we did see that last fight top of those three disasters.
[01:35:08] I'll box you watching from the high ground.
[01:35:11] I'll look at again, just having to avoid falcons completely.
[01:35:14] Just hard for them to start fights, unlike with our fine easy pick-offs like if Storm,
[01:35:22] Nisha kinda has to do the one to do it with Boxy, and I don't think Boxy has blinked
[01:35:25] just yet, he's 500 short, when they have the blink on Boxy I think then they can probably
[01:35:29] look to get easier pick-offs on the side, but let's see if Boxy doesn't really give
[01:35:31] them the most opportunities.
[01:35:32] They're playing very clustered.
[01:35:35] Not right now, now they're splitting up a little bit, but overall they're out playing pretty
[01:35:38] together and covering each other.
[01:35:44] 15 talents being hit some pretty strong ones. We do see the primal beast one even though it's not the
[01:35:51] Self-dispel anymore. It is a strong one in this game armors always gonna be nice
[01:35:57] Especially with the powers of rock throw
[01:36:00] It's just give you those uproar stacks
[01:36:03] I think it's done, so I need you to just have at least that way to protect versus the single target the sails
[01:36:14] still it's just a question of whether this is enough to sort of allow liquid to get back on the aggression or if they think for that to wait for falcons to make them a stake
[01:36:26] From the rest of the things that can't break that way, of course, two of the Ulls on Cricket particular
[01:36:31] a couple other things
[01:36:32] Are they gonna go for smoke liquid?
[01:36:34] Yeah, I'll see what box hangs catch
[01:36:37] 200 gold from the belief dagger they want to try to get something top-ace
[01:36:41] Even trouble, they get the setup airs, short shackles, short to the ice bar,
[01:36:45] Power is ready to close the gap, they'll drop the overgrope and everything's unlocked and down.
[01:36:49] Knees your country across to try and bail them out, but surely it's death for the Razer.
[01:36:53] They'll try and get them all in in return, they should be able to find it, they will.
[01:36:57] So get at least that kill.
[01:36:59] Can they leave us out though?
[01:37:01] I'm off turned up, liquid, they're gonna start getting away.
[01:37:03] What's he gonna try to see if he put the shackles back up?
[01:37:05] So Fowkins don't get themselves a second kill out of this one.
[01:37:09] Now there are numbered liquid they have to completely evacuate the area.
[01:37:14] You can see liquid was it oh we killed the primal maybe we can go back. Oh god a Mars turn up get the hell out of here.
[01:37:18] Yeah, for the fact it's just too fam's carry. He's got the load it's up to now.
[01:37:24] Yeah, this is this this this this this this this bristle we have to see how they tackle and we have to be something later on that they do it. They do it.
[01:37:29] At least get the primal beast again, but they do lose two four and eights.
[01:37:32] That's zero and four on the razor. We've got pretty good timings on his aura. It's just has been caught alone over and over again.
[01:37:39] Yeah, it's just sort of the, you know, we're supposed to compare us in terms of the heroes of playing right, you know, when you're considering a razor at the moment,
[01:37:46] you do think of it to be this option if you want to have kind of this tanky here, but a Mars just kind of showing, you know, compared to the bristle in this sort of game,
[01:37:54] it's just not even close right what the razor can offer in comparison to this bristle.
[01:37:59] Yeah, the razor at this point honestly, it's going to start being just an aura.
[01:38:03] He's not really going to be dealing the most damage yet until he's got maybe that next item.
[01:38:06] He's going to be or a providing for his teammates.
[01:38:08] Amar is going to be doing a ton.
[01:38:09] He didn't go or is why he never does.
[01:38:11] Amar really doesn't like the man.
[01:38:12] So he likes being that carry.
[01:38:16] Blink is finished for Boxy, but again, this is not the easiest game
[01:38:21] mobile for the tusks.
[01:38:22] It's, you know, versus the primal, very difficult to get saved.
[01:38:25] It's a very impossible, of course, versus pull rise.
[01:38:27] And then also, just ice bath.
[01:38:29] If you blink into a wrong position, you can get caught into that, too.
[01:38:31] The leader is getting to hit creeps starting to get that recovery for him too, his
[01:38:39] meone is done, his pike is soon to be finished.
[01:38:45] Art for Mickett to stick on targets in this game.
[01:38:46] I got a little bit of pressure on Sputir 1 top, at least from the creeps, but you can see
[01:38:54] even with that liquid hesitant to really push on to the town themselves, just in case
[01:38:59] Fowkins do turn up again with another defense, and Fowkins go for now.
[01:39:04] Focus on the sort of sort of towards the tier two down bottom.
[01:39:08] Nick Engel starts.
[01:39:10] They want to see if they can get a catch here, trying to be handle on to Snake King.
[01:39:14] The trees they go on, and he's your rule find him, but he has to go back up.
[01:39:18] And what the other saving them?
[01:39:20] Liquid able to take Snake King out, and he starts to get the push back going here on the bottom lane.
[01:39:26] the
[01:39:30] nice job from the show that was actually super nice identification were
[01:39:32] stating was a good scene on that side of the line anticipated it so he kind of knew that the two
[01:39:35] supports were being
[01:39:36] obnoxious down there so good catch
[01:39:39] keeps himself going with the galvanized keeps himself up at that top two net worth 15
[01:39:43] the
[01:39:50] time is coming up
[01:39:58] and you see if maybe you can get some sort of chance to set things up and call in the TV's around mid
[01:40:04] to be a baby so it's very difficult for them to stop them now if he does find a target
[01:40:10] boxy gets the blink punch to stop the grab, that grab is going to last, sorry, just
[01:40:16] farming.
[01:40:17] They're going to smoke.
[01:40:21] Maybe this, well, catch liquid off guard, I was hearing, showing, using the pole
[01:40:25] throws down the wave.
[01:40:27] Might mean the liquid get caught a little sort of relaxed at this point, not expecting
[01:40:31] this little smoke play to come in.
[01:40:33] They see tofu.
[01:40:34] They're going to get a job on it.
[01:40:35] They set up with the rope into the ice path and the macro fire, though it's a first
[01:40:38] I love the rock, this one we so enjoy, but about disability.
[01:40:46] Hits him in the face, didn't have the pulverized, didn't need it though.
[01:40:51] Looking to play around this bottom one, I see they're trying to circle around it,
[01:40:56] so looking to play around that vision, maybe trying to dissipate where Micka's movements are.
[01:41:32] Foxy's dead, Nisha goes caught out by Malrine.
[01:41:36] Oh.
[01:41:37] I mean, it's tough, right?
[01:41:38] We can turn to the net worth.
[01:41:39] It has been close for a lot of this game,
[01:41:42] but this sort of step-up and lean-up
[01:41:45] and it's just falcons.
[01:41:47] It did always kind of seem inevitable for, right?
[01:41:50] This was always going to happen.
[01:41:53] It's not as easy as it might have looked for liquid in the early game.
[01:41:57] There's sort of the silence as it built towards this point.
[01:42:01] It's just a start getting very difficult. Very very very difficult. It's a pity liquid.
[01:42:05] It's been right like since top they showed up with their three core items and they lost the fight.
[01:42:09] They didn't even come close to that fight.
[01:42:11] When they showed up with the first initial three core items and now they keep picking up items,
[01:42:15] but Ace is never, it's never rallied around the Razor.
[01:42:17] It's never rallied around the Oris. It's like these one by one kind of sequences
[01:42:21] and then the Razor dies on an island again. Zero and five for Ace.
[01:42:24] I'm all just cruising.
[01:42:27] Again, just a stretch to come in with his first pick for a soul.
[01:42:30] and we've really got to be so far yeah liquid they didn't have an answer for it
[01:42:35] obviously they had to really be in charge of the drop just to try to approach
[01:42:38] how they wanted to play against this bristle I mean unless they've got some
[01:42:41] sort of great plan in the latest stages of this game so far it looks like
[01:42:45] whatever else they have it it's not worked out for them no not at all I'm
[01:42:49] seeing the bees you know he's annoying tier 3 new trolls I should have
[01:42:53] pointed out earlier but my god as we mounted games and I'm seeing this
[01:42:55] This is unrelenting eye.
[01:42:56] This item is so broke.
[01:42:57] It's correct.
[01:42:58] I don't know.
[01:42:59] It is so close.
[01:43:00] They've gone control it.
[01:43:01] He's running around.
[01:43:02] It's all people.
[01:43:03] Like a bard probably has the white.
[01:43:04] What's his slow resistance?
[01:43:05] He's sitting at like 70% slow resistance.
[01:43:07] Do they catch him?
[01:43:08] They'll get.
[01:43:09] They can kill him.
[01:43:10] Not other than they can.
[01:43:11] He can't be a play bell's ball.
[01:43:14] And that's going to be a little bit off of the sunset.
[01:43:17] They can't catch him.
[01:43:19] He's a good try to be honest.
[01:43:21] He just had got the BKB and they just had got the silver edge.
[01:43:24] It was honestly, I'd feel like, I'd feel tried from liquid,
[01:43:28] but I'd feel perfect response from Falkens.
[01:43:30] I mean, I'm going to be KV.
[01:43:32] Except, like, a liquid's got to try something now, right?
[01:43:34] You know that the Bristol doesn't have KV.
[01:43:36] He's still going to be very hard to kill,
[01:43:38] but if there's any sort of window to try and make a move
[01:43:41] around this Silver Edge pick up a Mekai,
[01:43:43] this is going to be it.
[01:43:44] It is, but they did reveal it, right?
[01:43:46] So they did show.
[01:43:47] So now Falkens is completely aware of that Silver Edge 2
[01:43:49] and that he's gone this, I mean, pretty aggressive build, right?
[01:43:52] Man, the death is so rich, very little defensive.
[01:43:56] I look was waiting on the high ground.
[01:43:58] Smoke coming in from falcons.
[01:44:03] He's gonna go first.
[01:44:03] You're ready to step up if you need to.
[01:44:05] Has of course still got the ages for a fair few minutes.
[01:44:09] He brought this up.
[01:44:10] Oh fuck, man.
[01:44:11] You're a bad person.
[01:44:13] Then I'm gonna go and lick with that sort of chance.
[01:44:17] Yeah, for Mario's BKB, as long as he's not changed,
[01:44:19] he gets a BKB up.
[01:44:20] He's gonna live every time.
[01:44:21] unless the Silver Edge gets in beforehand.
[01:44:22] Tchukkisha?
[01:44:24] Careful under that vision.
[01:44:25] They did buy a gem to protect him.
[01:44:28] Versus that pesky tree vision, though.
[01:44:31] That's to walk away.
[01:44:36] Yeah, the net worth, it was close for a while
[01:44:38] and just you have one or two small,
[01:44:40] I mean, pretty big mess,
[01:44:41] up to course, catapult to forward and out tormented.
[01:44:44] Last time they were able to get the trade
[01:44:45] approach with it, of course.
[01:44:46] That roaches it's in skaters hand
[01:44:48] and he's about to have BKB himself also
[01:44:50] for the protection.
[01:44:54] Liquid under vision also here.
[01:44:55] Falcons, they're immediately hunting for them.
[01:45:00] See, it gets cold first.
[01:45:02] It's getting up.
[01:45:03] So you can find an anchor towards box.
[01:45:04] Does he have the complete his shackle or is it boxed?
[01:45:06] Well, the chance gets a snowball off.
[01:45:07] Still though, icebox, ready to fight.
[01:45:09] See, firm as he comes out of the snow ball.
[01:45:11] Let me box you gone.
[01:45:12] Falcons, laying, tossing you the push down, hip.
[01:45:15] Plank, tusk first, jukiro, or willow.
[01:45:16] Sometimes this happens, you know, you get your snowball off
[01:45:18] you're just setting up for the path through the brambles. Is that a banner? I was a banner in the pit. They didn't notice whoops.
[01:45:48] Aston for this well, a very nice sort of backup there from Falcons to avoid the Supernova.
[01:45:55] Get back in, jackalons and sort of catch the Phoenix on top of it all.
[01:45:59] Falcons looking well prepared for any situation right now, the liquid tries to throw it up.
[01:46:05] Beautiful, honestly, an egg comes out that looks glorious, right?
[01:46:09] But snaking, I believe, got a three or four man route, right before it's a nobody could chase,
[01:46:13] stop anyone, do anything like that. Excellent disengagement Falcons.
[01:46:17] They're going for us actually, keep them in tracks, and then they just wipe them completely 12k.
[01:46:21] And they get off the hype around now.
[01:46:25] I'm out of the two sets.
[01:46:28] I said, it's definitely going to be tempting if the power comes with the water player aggressive.
[01:46:32] And almost done a good half time.
[01:46:33] It's 30 seconds without making 20 seconds or so without ace.
[01:46:40] For the bottom max, I'll be gone for sure.
[01:46:43] I'll see how much more falcons fill the can say.
[01:46:46] I'll hear at this point come to say you're 15k network lead.
[01:46:50] Falcons in an incredibly solid spot and it really has just been a while since we've seen any potential from liquid in this sort of metric with the draft that they have at this point.
[01:47:00] Super, if you have to anything and it really has been an absolute age since that one death that we had on a mile earlier since that point.
[01:47:08] They're just not being able to touch the breast and obviously at this stage, they've got
[01:47:11] so many more problems on top of the breast, as well, to deal with and get in pretty much
[01:47:16] impossible for the McLeod.
[01:47:18] We'll see if they've got any way to sort of shake this advantage that Falcons have
[01:47:22] against them right now.
[01:47:23] Yeah, it's like a me, sure.
[01:47:24] And boxy, I felt like we're doing a lot in terms of being able to make these movements
[01:47:27] happen, or getting these catches.
[01:47:28] But then once Falcons just got a couple of extra levels, they've grouped up, they never really
[01:47:32] let liquid if get their group up.
[01:47:35] And I think not, you know, I'm not like,
[01:47:36] waiting for anything, anybody needs.
[01:47:37] But sometimes the off-laner just gets left on an island
[01:47:39] a bit and just steps up a bit too far.
[01:47:41] He's 0-6 is the aura.
[01:47:42] The one that just was kind of rally around
[01:47:44] being able to get those teamfights access.
[01:47:46] And so just some difficulties
[01:47:47] that I think Falcons just played around really nicely.
[01:47:50] Yeah, I honestly, this bristle back might be something
[01:47:52] that just maybe a mini meta in this best of five or something.
[01:47:55] But when I saw the other day from up,
[01:47:56] it looked super strong.
[01:47:57] And now that I see this, I'm like,
[01:47:58] oh, yeah, I'm in a monster.
[01:48:00] Some of my money as well.
[01:48:02] Yeah, there's got 1500 over the expense.
[01:48:03] going to be pretty much able to buy this Scotty, you know, straight up. So Scotty is going
[01:48:08] to be on live frame in the next fight. Level 23 on the bristle. His game just continues
[01:48:13] to flourish and liquid. I mean, what's round the corner for them? They've got any
[01:48:17] sort of big pickups coming soon. Mickie's relatively close to having the BKB. So Mike given
[01:48:21] a bit of a better shot of getting into the midst of the team fight, getting that break here
[01:48:24] onto the bristle and at least getting to get his full combo out before they're able to turn and
[01:48:29] take him down. But at least point even with that, I don't know if they're going to be able to
[01:48:33] to bring them all down to half HP.
[01:48:35] Yeah, at least they have the two cores they're doing well, but Ace is just, he's not really even a hero enough at this point.
[01:48:40] I got to be honest, maybe you can get a link and the knife and damage, but even then it's nice, isn't really.
[01:48:46] He's just an aura bot at this point.
[01:48:49] And they can lie past those orders as we've seen.
[01:48:52] Skid is going up to...
[01:48:54] Skid on the cliff for a little bit.
[01:48:55] We'll just try to close the gap on Tunisia.
[01:48:57] And it's a cool scene.
[01:48:59] 20 seconds.
[01:49:02] Looking at some more neutrals. We did see the pride my favorite slash least favorite neutral item that the carries get now the
[01:49:08] Flair's bought out with a tack wrench of course the alert so insane damage on the windy
[01:49:14] Because they get giant small not as good
[01:49:19] But oh
[01:49:21] Risky Dan
[01:49:23] Five just sort of stop something with the jump
[01:49:26] it's so it's so hard for liquid to get us set up a fight because not only do they have
[01:49:32] like lackluster initiation in teamfight and comparison but also they can't reclaim vision
[01:49:36] because this bristled just walks up and goes okay good luck and break me you can't well
[01:49:40] you try to break it so if you can't break my path I am the wall for the team
[01:49:45] I was talking to you in trouble now yeah you got the idol of screok as well too tough
[01:49:51] that's 50 armor on this bristle
[01:49:56] Let's go.
[01:49:58] We'll see if they go for some sort of crazy wraparound or just sort of sell for the high ground
[01:50:04] defense.
[01:50:07] Running out of options there, as Falcons continues to maintain complete hold of this game
[01:50:12] one.
[01:50:13] You can't just have to hope for this egg to pop and somehow you have them stand under
[01:50:18] in.
[01:50:19] You can have Micka actually getting a tax off, it's difficult, it's very difficult
[01:50:22] with what they're up against.
[01:50:23] and thought was just being able to constantly disengage versus that egg.
[01:50:33] Nisha probably calling that he wants his BKB, but still a ways away.
[01:50:46] I'm liquid.
[01:50:49] I guess he'll look towards the MKB long time until he's gonna have that ready.
[01:50:53] huge items continue to come out
[01:50:55] about the facts.
[01:50:56] Sports yeah Chris just got a complete
[01:50:58] hex on the career coming out to
[01:51:00] where I mean that's I thought he was I
[01:51:04] didn't see a you didn't even
[01:51:04] queueing it up but that's going to
[01:51:06] be really strong obviously versus
[01:51:07] the storm right this Lincoln's I
[01:51:09] just can't sayable yeah you know
[01:51:11] like that was not going to anticipate
[01:51:13] the critches picked up a full
[01:51:14] hex no
[01:51:19] and the damages are already in
[01:51:20] saying the high two is the
[01:51:21] data was finished up for
[01:51:22] So I mean any disable any of these targets will die
[01:51:27] Fight for liquid just continue to get more and more complicated and top to see how they really rallied off together also
[01:51:33] I was thinking maybe Nisha was gonna even though we don't see it as much the agon in stone split
[01:51:37] But he's going more carry build around himself because I was thinking something to rally the team fight together for his for his calves, but not gonna be the case
[01:51:46] For a fresh her go for primal
[01:51:48] Can they get some of this smart liquid bar
[01:51:52] So they were really want to try and start on the bristle.
[01:51:55] They're going to look towards him, but immediately they can keep him in the loathees as he's off.
[01:51:59] So they have to start backing away.
[01:52:02] And now they'll see. He's going to get left behind. He's going to be him gone.
[01:52:07] So they got the BKB out of the bristle, but that's pretty much all they can get out of it.
[01:52:43] back to board to Ace's gone.
[01:52:45] Oh, my, I mean, to have the control and damage,
[01:52:48] to bring down the Asia, take out boxy for a second time
[01:52:52] in the fight.
[01:52:54] I ace just fought too much for liquid to handle right
[01:52:56] out.
[01:52:57] Falcons, they can head into the pit.
[01:52:59] Get this rose shot.
[01:53:00] The lead continues to blossom if a balcony's
[01:53:04] and liquid, they're really running out of options
[01:53:06] in this game on fogging.
[01:53:07] If I think much, just let out
[01:53:08] options completely at this point.
[01:53:12] You just get her killed, Mickey, and look, what was that?
[01:53:14] 1.2 seconds, cause I'm gonna say halfway through the shackle shot, I think.
[01:53:18] I can see that again, I'll fast he died.
[01:53:22] This was a halfway through the shackle shot, the racing, right? Watch, ready?
[01:53:27] There we go. Yeah, it was exactly halfway.
[01:53:29] You know, look at that. Yeah, I have a feeling this door is in me.
[01:53:32] I've been trying his best, he's like, hey, bro.
[01:53:34] I've been a bit of a hill coming up in the summary.
[01:53:36] But nothing could save Mickey there, and that situation.
[01:53:41] It's getting very nice, he's turning and getting that shaker off just as the mind looks before the BKP came off.
[01:53:46] So, Nick had was immediately caught as his BKP came to an end.
[01:53:50] The push coming back in and the real time found pins to get the mid-bracks.
[01:53:54] They're ready to look up towards the top set of racks as well.
[01:53:57] Liquid are going to have to deal with the mega creeps on they all respond in a second.
[01:54:05] Liquid's going to have to play cleaner approach for this next game in terms of rallying around.
[01:54:10] They're all flanes and all that.
[01:54:11] You know, they like to play with an advantage overall in the early games, especially
[01:54:14] that we always talk about that for Liquid, but yeah, I think this one, just too many deaths
[01:54:18] for Ace, too many things leaving him on an island, even though Mick has been farming,
[01:54:22] it's just unable to really find these kills Falcons.
[01:54:24] It feels like one step ahead and a lot of it started around that top fight.
[01:54:28] Yeah.
[01:54:29] Just some clean movements, like Liquid, they got that rush, love that move, they did the
[01:54:33] trade versus the tournament, but they're losing the ages and yeah, never really finding
[01:54:36] a team fight that got together.
[01:54:40] I'm getting that picked up extra bit of bonus gold for the team.
[01:54:53] I'm ready to run down a lane of my eyes got his options.
[01:54:57] Got 7.3k gold, singing the bank.
[01:54:59] If you want to pick himself up a moonshot or such, the option is certainly that.
[01:55:04] If you want to still order refresh your answers for the second DKV, if you want to be super careful,
[01:55:09] Doesn't maybe need to do that for eggs for the primal 35k lead
[01:55:19] Top game where do you go from here with yeah, but you know, it's a it's a best of five so many games
[01:55:26] Fallen to recover and pick themselves back up after this first game
[01:55:30] So you know about it's how can's it's gonna feel pretty good. Yeah, I come in in this hall usually
[01:55:35] I'm not a bearer scheme.
[01:55:37] Then I'm firing at all here.
[01:55:39] They're mine, but if it was slow start, then they're from Maureen.
[01:55:42] But now at this point, you know, Maureen, as always, has got his game back online.
[01:55:46] It's ace step without buyback. He's out for 80 seconds.
[01:55:49] Falcons, onto the tier 4 is ready to start closing this one up.
[01:55:52] Liquid, and they've got any sort of final defense with the last 4 of them.
[01:55:57] I don't think so. Speed is on to the H&E.
[01:55:59] What the focus for now? And he's just going to try for the grab on towards Maureen.
[01:56:02] The ice bar catches on towards Nisha, he's gone, and by back immediately they've got
[01:56:09] the Supernova.
[01:56:10] They're trying to focus my range when he gets the grab onto Nicky.
[01:56:14] Nicky for help, by back.
[01:56:16] But, skidder, he was just standing in the game.
[01:56:18] This game's on a GG's called Falcons.
[01:56:20] Take game one.
[01:56:22] And, liquid.
[01:56:23] They're only going to have to make some changes going in again, so you've got to.
[01:56:26] Explosive game one from Falcons really strong with their kind of nutwood full
[01:56:31] full-standard but pretty standard dropped in terms of very tanky, taking corners, liquid,
[01:56:36] they got the ball wrong with Nishoboxy, but it ended pretty quickly.
[01:56:40] I don't even know, yeah, there's a Mar Bristle.
[01:56:43] Definitely gonna be a lot of topic, you know, I'm going into game two.
[01:56:47] As you say, something the Falcons have done in the past that they're doing it here today,
[01:56:51] bringing it in first pick, and just going completely uncontested.
[01:56:54] They killed him once earlier, but other than that, I'm not having a completely free game
[01:56:59] as the rest of the team rallied around him.
[01:57:01] We'll see what changes up to come and game 2, but as for this game 1,
[01:57:04] Falcons, we can phenomenal, they'll take game 1 here with the best at 5 against Liquid.
[01:57:09] Your Viagant looks fantastic in-game.
[01:57:11] Am I sitting at the desk there?
[01:57:13] And honestly, if I didn't know any better, I would have thought that he lost this game the way he was looking at the post game graphs.
[01:57:18] These are perfectionists. He wants the best.
[01:57:21] And if we honest, this game wasn't perfect the early game.
[01:57:23] We'll messy. We'll floppy. It was not, it was not immaculate.
[01:57:26] But they did pull it back in the image with chocolate. They got to go.
[01:57:28] I mean, to me, it was a bit strange, even because I think liquid they did really super well
[01:57:34] in like the early game.
[01:57:35] That a lot of like good lanes, Nisha was kind of popping off yet like four, five, maybe even
[01:57:39] six active rooms in a row.
[01:57:41] But then there's just some things like the mid game and the leg game falkin's definitely got
[01:57:43] the better off them when they came to like the map movement and like understanding where
[01:57:47] to attack them because liquid once they got to like 15, 70 to 80 minutes, they've started
[01:57:52] feeling kind of lost you.
[01:57:53] Yeah, I mean, I feel like the stones for, of course, he don't fall mid lane, but it never
[01:57:56] really opened up anything else, right?
[01:57:58] It was the scoreline of Razer.
[01:58:00] The game was at 0-8, right?
[01:58:02] There was no Razer game to be played.
[01:58:04] You saw Razer from the clips that you've seen here.
[01:58:06] Falcons even though there was a commit-de-appening,
[01:58:08] but it didn't fight.
[01:58:09] When it's killed, it's against the Razer.
[01:58:11] They've done the little stuff.
[01:58:13] And all of these kids are always 4-5 Falcons heroes,
[01:58:15] going towards the Liquid.
[01:58:17] But Liquid, you're kind of expect them to have 4-5 heroes
[01:58:20] with the Razer and the Storm, the Fiends behind.
[01:58:23] So on just a team play level, Falcons just knew exactly how to
[01:58:25] It's actually how to play out the 10 to 20 minute mark compared to Nickwood.
[01:58:29] It doesn't look lost very quickly.
[01:58:31] I mean, that is what you guys said.
[01:58:32] It's like, yes, they want to have stable games, but for liquid, it was a stable early game.
[01:58:36] And it's quite late in the going while the early game kind of fell up hard towards the end there.
[01:58:40] And it's so good.
[01:58:41] They could do what they liked and what you said that line-up needed was to just
[01:58:45] farm it up and honestly, it wasn't even necessarily massive farm from the video.
[01:58:49] Is the ability to be able to close the map in places they needed to be able to close them?
[01:58:54] I mean, I think you can tell the difference in the drafts by there's a lot of these fights that are even gold lead and
[01:58:59] Faulkens is running them over and some of that is execution, but some of that is the fact that liquid they can't be playing from even
[01:59:04] Stay and I also think that you look at Ace of Scrawl and here's 08 and 3. I think if you're if you're Faulkens
[01:59:09] This is a you call this bluff right you said we're gonna give you the razor here everyone else is banning and I don't think it's
[01:59:14] Particularly suited for liquids offline and I think Faulkens made a really smart read to start the series off saying we're gonna give you the razor
[01:59:19] Because we don't think you're that would go with it. I love to set a best of five
[01:59:22] You give them a hair like this they lose and now in their minds like a game to come move a razor
[01:59:26] Do we need to ban it ourselves if we ban it now? There's a timber or a hospital or a five-pin-out one game to it
[01:59:31] Invest the five so it really just keeps kind of hindering I guess the prep but yeah losing with your first it razor
[01:59:37] It's gonna hurt game to
[01:59:39] Look the razor might not have done so well
[01:59:41] We're gonna focus on the things that worked well for liquid and could eventually into a game
[01:59:46] When because it is that best of five we keep talking about is how good the mid was you was the ink when that
[01:59:51] It is slightly even skill-based, you know, like, not green.
[01:59:55] He's very good at adodging these bad matchups for himself either way, but I feel like
[01:59:58] Nisha just took it to a whole not the level on Stormsburg.
[02:00:01] Yeah, this is not what happened in this lane is not normally.
[02:00:04] It is definitely a Stormfavorite lane, but 21 and 11 to 8 and 0 is absurd, especially for
[02:00:10] Final Beast Nisha was massively locked in in this entire early game.
[02:00:13] Not to mention just the lane, but he also secures the tower super early on in a bunch of kills.
[02:00:17] Any skirmishes?
[02:00:18] This is a very, very early mid tower, especially against Falcons, a team that's super
[02:00:22] good at defending their areas historically.
[02:00:25] I think to be honest, they just need a little bit easier, ease of execution, because
[02:00:30] Nisha was popping off his game.
[02:00:31] I think he was the highlight of the team.
[02:00:33] I disagree somewhat with some of his items, but I think overall he played quite well, and
[02:00:38] they're just playing a game that is not easy to win, because midlinks are not gold
[02:00:41] like this, and the game still be this hard.
[02:00:43] It's the kind of game you come away with, like, shaking your head, like, the heck
[02:00:45] that I do wrong.
[02:00:46] And I think also like losing your midterm, like you showed,
[02:00:48] like you have three in, like, you know,
[02:00:50] against Falcons, you're taking down their midterm at this stage.
[02:00:52] I think that should open up your game,
[02:00:54] like even if you take the draft aside,
[02:00:55] I agree, I think Razor isn't the most suited for them,
[02:00:58] but if you find some of these plays
[02:00:59] where maybe he can go first,
[02:01:00] you bait him with a max sunrick,
[02:01:02] or you should can find different itemization,
[02:01:04] then I still think you can absolutely play this game better
[02:01:06] than they did.
[02:01:06] So I will chop it off a bit more to like game play rather than pigs.
[02:01:10] Well, what was your crack with some of Neshe's items
[02:01:13] on this stone spirit?
[02:01:14] I mean, I think Lincoln's an item that is very tricky to buy.
[02:01:18] Like he's buying it in a game where there are other spells
[02:01:20] that aren't single target that are going to kill him.
[02:01:22] So we buy it, but then he still dies in fights.
[02:01:24] And it's an item that if you're buying it,
[02:01:25] and then you're still dying, then it feels really bad.
[02:01:28] Because the item gives you nothing besides you don't die.
[02:01:30] This that's a incredibly mediocre, it's zero damage.
[02:01:33] So you buy this item, second item,
[02:01:34] now you're lacking a shield or some other big item
[02:01:37] that could have more impact.
[02:01:38] It needed to be sheathers.
[02:01:40] You've got a straight up.
[02:01:42] Yeah, like if I see a stone's for it on my team,
[02:01:44] And I've got all this like skirmish and fighting for thinking
[02:01:47] that you're getting the first ages you're feeling good.
[02:01:49] I want to say she's in that grip
[02:01:50] but I keep reminding Falcons like your tankyness
[02:01:52] which I'm deal with at the moment.
[02:01:54] You buy a Lincoln's.
[02:01:55] You're kind of playing for your own game.
[02:01:56] I was going first by Razor when we were going in.
[02:01:58] I feel like it's just not even understanding
[02:02:01] how this draft is going to win the game.
[02:02:02] It's like each player's buying their own items
[02:02:04] and they hope to win a fight.
[02:02:05] There's not like the talk during the draft.
[02:02:07] Like you need this item.
[02:02:08] I need this item and we break them.
[02:02:09] Like there was not this like one definitive answer.
[02:02:12] It was just many different solutions
[02:02:13] You need one clear way to be focused.
[02:02:15] It's like they were thinking too far down the line of when or if
[02:02:18] something's getting strong, I'm going to need this item, but implementing it now.
[02:02:21] And that is questionable because when they're uneven that work,
[02:02:24] we saw the fights really heavily going the way of Falcons.
[02:02:26] But even before we got to that point,
[02:02:29] there was a great fight from Falcons.
[02:02:31] They were down about three, four K in that early game in around the 17-minute
[02:02:35] mark, we're able to really claw it back.
[02:02:37] And it's just super important that you understand what actually leads
[02:02:39] into this fight.
[02:02:40] that you have focused their super good at playing the outsides of the map.
[02:02:42] Yeah, even have a word bottom, but also, most specifically, this one which shows them a lot.
[02:02:46] So when you play the clip out, like, sure they're down equal, but they have so much information
[02:02:50] that they know that both these on the side, they know that both those on the side.
[02:02:53] So all the heroes get to like position nicely, and even though they're down and that
[02:02:56] works, like they get an insane fight.
[02:02:58] You have a great overgrowth into the, like, jacquero spell slater on the side and it's just like
[02:03:02] around this corner of the map to like if you punch liquid here, and then it gets into like
[02:03:06] a third kill too, like you just have like one of the strongest timings that liquid
[02:03:09] want to play for, where they don't actually get to take the fight that they want.
[02:03:12] And I think that's really this fight alone, made Falkensus like mid-to-lake in after
[02:03:17] so simple to play.
[02:03:18] It's just delaying, having the vision and also the way that they have always
[02:03:21] the tanky front line, they have time to understand where to position.
[02:03:24] If you don't have the tankiness, that hero standing at front will die, then you have 45
[02:03:27] like the Falkens, because they always have these type of heroes, they're kind of offering up,
[02:03:31] like, hey, try and kill me, try and do it.
[02:03:33] And if you do, even if you does die, you're still probably going to waste so much to kill
[02:03:37] one or more or one now, Rene.
[02:03:39] Bristle primal that you're going to be
[02:03:40] up to in the fight after so again,
[02:03:41] that's just kind of testament to
[02:03:42] Falcons dropped and how they always
[02:03:43] seem to play.
[02:03:44] Yeah, we saw the first
[02:03:46] rush as well.
[02:03:46] It was that trade where Falcons took
[02:03:48] 10, 20 minutes.
[02:03:50] Liquid take the first rush.
[02:03:51] The ages goes on Nisha.
[02:03:53] And now there is this question I have of
[02:03:55] he pretty much immediately loses it.
[02:03:57] Do you feel okay as Liquid losing it?
[02:04:00] Cause you're like at least we've
[02:04:01] denied it from Falcons getting both
[02:04:02] objectives or you're like,
[02:04:04] we really needed this because this was a
[02:04:05] second opening for us back into the.
[02:04:07] No, I think you need that egg is going to fight.
[02:04:10] It's very big fat out there holding this.
[02:04:13] They're thinking about the strategy for next game,
[02:04:15] because it's just not okay.
[02:04:17] Browsh is very bad goal-blast.
[02:04:19] This thing gives you almost no goal.
[02:04:21] Tormenter gives you way way more.
[02:04:22] If you're trading those two,
[02:04:23] you need to get some value out of that egg.
[02:04:24] Otherwise, it's going to favor the people
[02:04:26] who took the format through in terms of how the trade goes.
[02:04:28] So just in general, killing that thing and losing egg,
[02:04:30] it's a big prime sink.
[02:04:31] They're farming the whole map at the same time.
[02:04:33] period. There were just so many instances where it felt like
[02:04:36] Falkens were just had a little bit better of an edge.
[02:04:39] Like this is just a smart clean kill with a couple heroes.
[02:04:42] He and Kazooim mentioned the draft and I agree then that I look at
[02:04:45] Liquid Heroes. They're they're jump. They don't have this team fight
[02:04:47] jump in the same way that Falkens done. They had the prime who jumps in with a
[02:04:50] BKB and it's a clean normal jump. Liquid they have like this weird
[02:04:53] skirmish jump and it's just it's so much harder to do it right.
[02:04:56] Liquid if you're in the wrong place one time you'll be reminded. That's
[02:05:00] That's what I have with the A just and then there's later fights like the 30 minute mark.
[02:05:04] But you have this clash with the two teams and at that point there is like there's a major disparity
[02:05:08] kind of between Leipzig and Falcons where like Falcons you can just feel that they have all the items
[02:05:12] they're ready, they've got four stars and rules and they've got all the little layering
[02:05:16] to have whichever out.
[02:05:17] Of course correct going for like a high-periodivity build with the four studios then going for the
[02:05:20] hips even taking the ice puff stuns at the 2010s like Falcons I think every clip that we see
[02:05:26] in this I kind of mid to late game is just strong positioning a clear front line, support
[02:05:30] the right kind of like spows over it's just
[02:05:33] it's such a difference in the team like they could
[02:05:35] they had to play better in the early game
[02:05:37] yeah i think if uh...
[02:05:38] making it gets to kill and skater there it's a little bit different
[02:05:41] because now you've given the information that make it because he's not
[02:05:43] there with the rest of the team that's engaging on mid lane across the river
[02:05:48] skater gets out he's able to then tp and it's like well now we'd clearly have
[02:05:51] the numbers advantage because this guy's not going to be able to join who's
[02:05:54] just on the end of the line
[02:05:55] i mean it's not just has like it definitely their number from i think that the
[02:05:58] mid game onwards and I think to add to the point about itemization because we did talk about an
[02:06:01] draft. It's not that easy for Liquid to catch them nicely and like start the fight the way that you
[02:06:06] want. That's why I think items mean even so much more like when you can jump nicely you need to
[02:06:10] then at least understand if they attack us, how can we fight back? That's why I think like
[02:06:14] you know, Nisha may be building the more tankiness that he can get sunride. He can get snowball
[02:06:17] saved that it could help so much more. But instead like when you can't really do this and it's weird
[02:06:22] to initiate but if they go on as far as we're not super clutched and it just feels awkward.
[02:06:26] I mean, look at this POV, right, from Mickie.
[02:06:28] Like, we're talking about optimization.
[02:06:29] How many times have you seen him just get 100 to 0?
[02:06:31] There is, like, he's in the river.
[02:06:32] He loses vision of everyone.
[02:06:34] Then suddenly, you see a rock coming from the fog from Mal Reed.
[02:06:36] He gets smashed in the face, 100 to 0.
[02:06:38] There's fights in the future as well.
[02:06:40] Well, by the Russian, I'm paid, right?
[02:06:41] He gets shackled during half of the duration of the shackle.
[02:06:43] He's also dying, like, the kids, where he's standing,
[02:06:46] any minute he can die.
[02:06:48] And we're seeing it in the clips.
[02:06:49] What would you say, your rival beast,
[02:06:51] rock to, like, contact the ratio would be?
[02:06:55] I mean, mine is probably zero.
[02:06:57] Oh, good. Yeah, so I think mine would be as well, yeah.
[02:06:59] Prime was on a five position here, so it's hard to say.
[02:07:02] He's like, I played one game of them.
[02:07:03] Yeah, I say one game of Prime. Well, he was kind of fun.
[02:07:05] I mean, the shot is great. I think the shot is giga.
[02:07:08] The fact it jumped so long for pros to realize how good the shot was,
[02:07:11] because there was a long time where people just went by it,
[02:07:13] but pushing out waves, eating it from the fog just to start a dude,
[02:07:17] like, it had exceptionally good.
[02:07:19] And then you have Malvin doing which I'm pretty sure he was like,
[02:07:21] at least 96% of it.
[02:07:23] Hey, him and Collapse, they'd like to see a school playing with primal players.
[02:07:26] Yeah, they've got to keep playing at the school.
[02:07:27] We can do the rock.
[02:07:28] They actually, actually, it's just too.
[02:07:30] Oh, I'm sorry.
[02:07:31] Well, maybe they just implemented the update.
[02:07:33] They're just a play that holds it.
[02:07:35] I mean, the version they got to update is his draft.
[02:07:38] We were talking about it before.
[02:07:40] And I think, like, best of all, it's so interesting with the draft because you need
[02:07:44] to be really smart about what you, like figure out as the problem.
[02:07:47] Because you can look at this game, it's all this year was owning it.
[02:07:49] So that year was owning it.
[02:07:50] So this is a problem.
[02:07:51] But you need to actually blow that down because you can't change everything you can't
[02:07:54] overreact with the enemies doing or you'll stay on the back from the whole series
[02:07:57] and get clapped.
[02:07:58] Trust me, I know.
[02:07:59] So you need to figure out these things well and make calculator decisions and I'm
[02:08:03] really curious what beta side that is.
[02:08:04] So that's one of the discussions of like raise a first picture liquid, but then what happens
[02:08:07] with burst of mic?
[02:08:08] A hero that part doesn't have any function to it in the tournament, suddenly it's a response
[02:08:11] to raise it.
[02:08:12] Is it only a response to raise it?
[02:08:13] Is it actually a promotion in a Mars Harry pool?
[02:08:16] We're actually he goes, you know what, I could play this in a matter of what, based
[02:08:18] on the meta.
[02:08:19] be the spends and whatever with the correct career. I think Bristol also needs to be
[02:08:23] discussions, but we'll look at over after that error.
[02:08:25] You could also look at other Mickey Heroes who know his monkey king, maybe you
[02:08:28] opted in priority. I mean, he shouldn't be like giga scared of this person, but I
[02:08:31] will say he looked quite good. He was definitely a fantasy farming in this game.
[02:08:35] Like my brawl is like what? 9-1, whatever he had at the end. Like he's cooking,
[02:08:38] but it's also like understanding if I play there, like who do I need to call to come
[02:08:41] with me? I think A's was lacking on that a little bit. Like he's playing this big boy
[02:08:45] in the front. You can't just be the guidance out of position and then you die to 40
[02:08:48] like call for backup, understand this, make a clear draft, and go next.
[02:08:52] Alright, bigger issues for liquid that you could see, but it could all boil down to drop,
[02:08:56] they find something a little bit easier for themselves, and maybe it means it gained two
[02:09:00] and a best of five win for themselves, but I'm getting ahead of us right now because we
[02:09:05] As we go to a break when we come back though, that game 2 of the best 5 will be ready.
[02:10:05] You've heard of the trouble after each B-trend is bailing out with the nice pad.
[02:10:08] Little bit of focus on your damage on the B-K, but you have to run away.
[02:10:11] The magnetized real for the new portal will be hunting down.
[02:10:16] I'm a kid from the library, available. You'll use it once you get back over the horse to fight.
[02:10:20] Then you can be over here to help out me straight-hates.
[02:10:23] He's able to put them all ace against the arena down to control the two of them.
[02:10:27] A mob, a mob by the stuff from me, shut them, bring them all down to crypto board.
[02:10:31] You get the catch on to Chris.
[02:10:33] Let's get a BGT and start a moment.
[02:10:38] We're going to try and jump inside the pit. This time it's two versus four.
[02:10:42] And then jump in while the boulders into the raw tune.
[02:10:46] There we go. High ground ward is what we're going to be pushing into here.
[02:10:49] The final two.
[02:10:50] Each air-wired and one of 90 silver being pulled on and off.
[02:10:53] And this razor, the razor, with this old man is going to work here.
[02:10:56] Time on.
[02:10:57] I've always been a try.
[02:10:58] It's down in the ground with a BKB chase.
[02:10:59] Get it out on the fine jump.
[02:11:00] five jump from nothing to save a marries complete can be ready to pop as well
[02:11:04] if you want to buy the top off kept in the banks river and all my immediate
[02:11:08] a marries ready to come in with the right clicks these are music done up are
[02:11:11] nice toss back and opening on to the shatter from one of the jackals y'all
[02:11:15] real here another going on another focus fire the crimson guard does nothing just
[02:11:21] stop skater
[02:12:30] After strong start to liquid in game 1, the rest was not in their favour falcons, took
[02:12:52] it away from themselves, but it's the best of five-says, plenty of room for things to
[02:12:56] and proof here on both halves and while we're looking at a game number two draft, what
[02:13:01] is very important to note? Is that Falcons are going to have second pick again and right now
[02:13:06] thanks to my lovely co-panelistic, Kazoo is reminded me. 6 Game Winstreak on second pick for Falcons.
[02:13:14] That's down right. So then why in Game 1 when Liquid Hat priority, they must have chosen first pick,
[02:13:19] giving Falcons second pick. Do you want me to ask him? So I have to go and ask, y'all ask him,
[02:13:23] Then Fapens had priority in this game. They chose second pick. So liquid going into game one kind of what hey Fapens
[02:13:28] We're gonna try and beat your second pick
[02:13:31] How do they want to make it to it?
[02:13:33] Yeah, they just like yeah break them instantly they want to break them, but instead they got their rows razor broken
[02:13:38] So unlock but look at the change of liquid they found the first of the time. We're also they do respect it
[02:13:43] Then they take the risk of arm and primal
[02:13:46] Which means
[02:13:47] Timber is still in the pool, but of course they don't care about that and mentioned that you're
[02:13:51] for the primal, which does script falcons bound to be the queen of pain that has been mentioned multiple times now.
[02:13:56] That's that kind of stable, because second phase ban for falcons.
[02:14:00] It will definitely be locked in, but to be honest, like the primal will always have a mega impact in the mid-to-weight game,
[02:14:05] like the heroist is very powerful in that phase.
[02:14:07] And so for a liquid, I think they didn't have a problem shutting it down early game.
[02:14:10] So to me, it's, you need your silence to be a little better.
[02:14:12] You better gain matchups between your other cores, because I think the primal was like relatively dealt with.
[02:14:17] It was fine.
[02:14:18] He was more that their other core match was
[02:14:20] weren't good enough and the overall identity
[02:14:21] of their drafts a little bit weird.
[02:14:23] I think we'll go back to,
[02:14:24] I think maybe put the greatest around mid,
[02:14:25] that you're all doing fine in its surroundings.
[02:14:26] You can beat them a little bit,
[02:14:27] or draw at the very worst.
[02:14:29] And then now you get a tanky hero for ace,
[02:14:31] you get to play more of that normal style,
[02:14:33] where he gets to play this beefy front line
[02:14:35] or because I think that is what works best for him.
[02:14:38] I said they just run it back actually,
[02:14:40] everyone picks the same, they run drugs.
[02:14:42] They have picked this combo before
[02:14:44] and it's really, really strong.
[02:14:45] Like the primal, large, and other.
[02:14:47] Yeah, like you speed it up, you speed it up, you've got the stacks,
[02:14:49] everyone is happy with each other.
[02:14:51] I think also like Razor, he takes quite a while
[02:14:52] to build up his damage.
[02:14:54] So I think Largo should be quite good against him.
[02:14:56] You know, like buffing everyone up, you get some armor stacks.
[02:14:59] So you're pretty happy.
[02:15:00] I wonder if Liquid, so if you do put the Razor mid,
[02:15:03] I would love if your supports can deal with the primal better.
[02:15:06] So that's always heroes like Clockwork,
[02:15:08] but he is more like the lower damage side,
[02:15:09] but it's something you could think about.
[02:15:11] It is.
[02:15:12] So that's that one, but then what's the other one?
[02:15:15] Because I would assume, again, like a box game.
[02:15:16] I have some clockwork fans in the crowd by the way.
[02:15:18] Now they could take a hard for a clock.
[02:15:22] No, I mean, it's definitely, it's very sensible pick.
[02:15:24] But I agree with the logo being good against Razor.
[02:15:26] Like, you can even run away from his Lincoln fights.
[02:15:28] And I think there's a lot to cut through.
[02:15:30] I think he supports help with cutting through some of that.
[02:15:32] But thousands of picked a lot of beef right away.
[02:15:34] So look, we'll need like damage to cut through that with later picks.
[02:15:38] I mean, we're just seeing the same identity in the first five picks across both teams.
[02:15:42] is like liquid need to be the lane dominators
[02:15:45] that want to utilize your carers to take the tower,
[02:15:47] play through the race.
[02:15:48] And again, I feel like I'm repeating myself in that regard.
[02:15:51] And that's what Falkans will decide if they're going to try
[02:15:53] and match that fight or just continue going down this line
[02:15:56] of just kind of counterplay that we saw in the last game.
[02:16:01] So likely they would pick a Mars hero, I think, plus snaking.
[02:16:05] Like at least generally, when they've looked at like the first four
[02:16:07] heroes, it's always been those four.
[02:16:09] And Sketer has been last big more often than not.
[02:16:11] Chends also stand the pool.
[02:16:12] And I will stop something going for the channel
[02:16:13] and yet the logger for the boosted buffs
[02:16:15] and the little hills, channels, well,
[02:16:16] like you just compound yourself into a draft,
[02:16:18] which is where we'll be the damage for liquid.
[02:16:22] It's not impossible.
[02:16:23] It's not like great against clockwork,
[02:16:25] so maybe there's some element
[02:16:26] that they don't want to kind of pick themselves.
[02:16:28] It's called like a typically response,
[02:16:29] but I don't say it's definitely
[02:16:30] at the end of the world or anything.
[02:16:31] It's not like something.
[02:16:31] Oh, you can play this channel.
[02:16:33] It's fine.
[02:16:35] I do think there's a potential that
[02:16:36] they can end up with too much tanking
[02:16:38] to survivability and you run it to damage problems
[02:16:40] on the flip side.
[02:16:41] if they go, you know, all in on that department.
[02:16:43] Then you try to go to try and test it.
[02:16:44] First, back the wall up as always.
[02:16:46] You know, when you want to have scrumishing line up,
[02:16:47] still third of the ones, I think the thing is
[02:16:49] the Falcons is so many options.
[02:16:50] So they can choose to go through the defensive route.
[02:16:52] They can go through the same more aggressive route.
[02:16:53] Be it the wall up the chin, of course,
[02:16:55] to hear what you mentioned.
[02:16:56] Making a bottom.
[02:16:58] Pulling up your legs, it's too far in the double.
[02:16:59] I've been pulling this all last week,
[02:17:01] especially when we were seeing the others.
[02:17:03] You've used this to get in there, yeah.
[02:17:04] Yes, especially when we're seeing a wide-mongers popping up
[02:17:06] on a plate.
[02:17:07] And here's the bottom guard.
[02:17:09] Yeah.
[02:17:09] dodging fights with Moonlight Shadow
[02:17:11] and just kind of playing a bit more of a macro game.
[02:17:13] That is exactly what Morana's a sport does provide you.
[02:17:15] Do you think he's more critical of hers in here
[02:17:17] because he enjoys playing her so much?
[02:17:21] Probably, I think this team also understands Morana
[02:17:23] better than probably any other team.
[02:17:24] They literally have these players one time.
[02:17:27] They've been to the club.
[02:17:28] Yeah.
[02:17:29] He is Morana.
[02:17:30] Are you like 1000 is Morana?
[02:17:31] And then he passed it onto his son's nation.
[02:17:33] Yeah.
[02:17:34] It's disciple.
[02:17:35] And so I think if anyone knows Morana, it's them.
[02:17:38] I mean, they're taking a long time and I don't really blame them because a lot of
[02:17:41] offliners you want to pick their super annoyed by Razor, like in the draft.
[02:17:44] I'll apart from this guy, this is at least one of the few melee offliners who has a lot
[02:17:49] of room to play against Razor even if you lay against them, you can push them away.
[02:17:52] You can spear them away.
[02:17:53] Obviously, Arena is super good as well and I mean, this is one of the most far-consolking
[02:17:57] drafts you'll find.
[02:17:58] Yeah.
[02:17:59] It's so hard to fight, right?
[02:18:02] Because if you jump to the primal, then you're going to get Arena on two, three heroes.
[02:18:05] A lot of liquid aggression is like, Razor, get on top of you, clock, hooking himself into
[02:18:08] It's like this kind of vulnerable position.
[02:18:10] So if the Falcon is, it is a matter of kind of like offering up the correct guy that
[02:18:14] you go for the chance.
[02:18:15] I get it here.
[02:18:16] That's not really respected against the Falcon's for some reason, the first phase band.
[02:18:19] Because they do put so much priority on a bar in the, in that kind of first phase.
[02:18:23] Interesting.
[02:18:24] I mean, liquid they need, they need some oomph.
[02:18:28] I mean, I could definitely see them just pick underlord here, because, you know, it's
[02:18:33] A's classic, and you put the razor mid, and you pick a new mid hero, but I do think that
[02:18:39] Razor Offland here is going to feel really bad, but you're pulling it's a lot of teamfight,
[02:18:42] a lot of tank ability. So the leaving Razor's clutch to open, has this good even more,
[02:18:47] it's classic response, we've seen this response a bunch of times, if I'm going to have
[02:18:50] been it in the past. So it's very reasonable and it's certainly not bad, but I do think that
[02:18:56] if you end up in another draft where you've got a weird mid hero, you've got a Razor Offland,
[02:18:59] you've got to test your teamfight, eventually, is going to be a problem.
[02:19:03] Yeah, so an ice-path, a hook shot,
[02:19:05] hoping they stay inside the cocks.
[02:19:06] What happens when Primal gets his beaker
[02:19:08] be Mars with you, was in a blink,
[02:19:09] that I go, jump again, soaking one of those stuns,
[02:19:12] but then to keep himself alive.
[02:19:13] Like, there is such pressure on liquid.
[02:19:17] But maybe in there, my mind is like,
[02:19:18] we won the lane last time.
[02:19:20] We felt good.
[02:19:20] We had first ages.
[02:19:21] It is more of like a one choice problem.
[02:19:24] It's just a fix that that three, four thousand gold
[02:19:26] if they had, we'll become a 10,000, right?
[02:19:28] Like, maybe they just really are subscribing
[02:19:30] to them being able to win their lanes.
[02:19:32] Like, while Kansas still accorded, I don't understand as much as others.
[02:19:36] I have a quite strong read and feel that I think this was not the pick that they should have gone for.
[02:19:40] Like, I think you should have left the razor to be like your carry or your mid and pick the strongest offlaner you have there.
[02:19:46] I mean, it depends because Falcons for now, they're these taking out materials because they're in a quite sure whether the razor does go mid or offlaner.
[02:19:52] But I would have preferred razor to go one or the two.
[02:19:54] You pick your strongest offlaner there and then you can decide at the end where Falcons still need to debate.
[02:19:59] This is the Razor One, is he too, what do we do with the band?
[02:20:01] So I would have liked that a lot more.
[02:20:04] Yeah, no, I definitely agree with that reasoning.
[02:20:07] I'm not even spending the storm is just sort of a respect band.
[02:20:10] He just absolutely cooked them.
[02:20:11] So I'm scared.
[02:20:12] The mowering was out back in the trash can.
[02:20:14] The rest of the fog is pulled him out.
[02:20:18] Of course, repeat yourselves.
[02:20:20] The puck once again.
[02:20:23] Is it all like an embo?
[02:20:24] Is it more like an embo?
[02:20:25] That's up here that you want to have she was being...
[02:20:28] Like, she was a boy in the last game because he went for Lincoln's right, but he definitely
[02:20:34] needs some oamph.
[02:20:35] Like, for Fembo, to be fair.
[02:20:37] Now, Ember is ember is very good against primal.
[02:20:40] It's definitely better here than some other stuff.
[02:20:43] It can work for sure.
[02:20:45] In one second, it's going to fit into the snowball category, but I do think Ember gives
[02:20:49] you more chances to actually snowball the game.
[02:20:52] If you're picking an offlaner, then this band's got to be really precise because they're
[02:20:56] don't earthen the pool, there's some nasty counter picks that's scared to the plate
[02:20:59] place. So if you're arguing a place in the like underlord, you put yourself in a little
[02:21:02] bit of control risky spot or you get giga counter picked. I mean I guess if you end up putting
[02:21:07] the razor offline, you ban like some weaver, if you want the onloader what you can end up
[02:21:12] banning the earth. So I will personally prefer if this is an offliner, but maybe you
[02:21:16] liquid feel like, okay, I can play the razor again. We're just going to swap up one of the
[02:21:19] supports, you know, the clock gives you like the higher catch that we didn't have last game to
[02:21:22] like you know kind of make up for it so maybe that's also one of the reasonings because at the end of the day they need to feel
[02:21:28] Constable they're gonna have a read and they're gonna execute it my own read would be picking off
[02:21:34] I mean things I also don't think they're gonna get the number like a fit for his options will ban it here
[02:21:39] Okay, yeah with these two bands it is 100% raise or all fine. Yeah, so then does niche happen of options because I agree with you
[02:21:44] Embers best I think Falkin's will ban it. They know this match up is good for him
[02:21:48] The lane is sort of whatever but the game is very very good because the change
[02:21:51] But you don't have to 15 times anymore for primal so a lot of damage reduction
[02:21:55] What's the third option because it's a storm member and then what's number three?
[02:22:00] I mean, I'm not too opposed to the puck. That's the other also
[02:22:03] But it doesn't feel like it's like wow, it's just there. They've had to cook it off
[02:22:08] Inny to raise it that have been raised it to mid to get to off lane and then there would have been like a double or a timing that I could have played on right the blood
[02:22:15] That's one of the cares that one or Razer one or a conco, but yeah, it would have helped with teamfight.
[02:22:22] It would have a teamfight, but yeah, they do offer a potential ember finish to get his hands on.
[02:22:27] Again, with cares, I think the concern is, after lane, you don't continue punching into the game.
[02:22:32] You do need to kind of sit back, secure the desk, so get in at night and avoid it.
[02:22:35] And you want to poke for a little fight, but you're not leading the charge.
[02:22:38] You're better.
[02:22:38] The other here is that Nick is in playing a duet sword of a ball.
[02:22:41] Pacing.
[02:22:42] That's right.
[02:22:44] He's a bit of a high pacing here, if you can get the good start to the game.
[02:22:49] Yeah, I mean, Falcons is slightly on the lower end of damage.
[02:22:52] Lestrak thrives first at.
[02:22:54] He's very bad against high damage that prevents him from running in.
[02:22:57] So, I can see the rational, it pairs well with the supports.
[02:23:00] I think once again, they've had the skirmishing and fighting advantage.
[02:23:02] So, liquid, they will have mid-area dominance.
[02:23:05] It's just, can you convert that because you look at their heroes.
[02:23:07] We talked about it last game.
[02:23:08] It's three cores, who are very selfish.
[02:23:10] They play for their own game.
[02:23:11] Rage is going to buy some orders,
[02:23:13] but he's not really that helpful compared to a Mars.
[02:23:15] So I think it's another game where liquid
[02:23:17] you need to outplay the need to see a mobile,
[02:23:19] and you need to actually not make it messy this time,
[02:23:22] or you'll crumble.
[02:23:23] I mean, there's a couple of curious.
[02:23:24] I think like anything from even Drowl, Sven,
[02:23:27] Erissa are all kind of chill.
[02:23:29] I mean, for fuckers, I don't even think this
[02:23:30] here we need to do anything that's super-traiser.
[02:23:32] You have insane teams fight with like a lot of backup.
[02:23:34] Yeah.
[02:23:36] In that guy, it's pretty good.
[02:23:38] You've seen him many times against Razer, same with like Lesch.
[02:23:41] Lesch doesn't like the high DPS physical bros, at least I'm in the early to mid game.
[02:23:45] If I can say they are kind of enabling Liquid to play a slightly stronger early game right,
[02:23:50] the lanes look more aggressive, there's kill potential in Liquid, but then Falcons will always have
[02:23:54] this inevitable timing. What happens if you miss execute when clinks is behind the arena, behind the
[02:23:59] primal beast, if Lesch doesn't have a way to stop the flinks, just doing the right leg damage
[02:24:03] you're only going to disappear, tanky heroes like Razer, Underlord that have tried to plan to
[02:24:07] to the mid-game, you just get blown up from the desk when they act.
[02:24:10] So, yeah, I think for Falcons, respect the early game of Liquid once again.
[02:24:13] Get yourselves into a good footing, play on that vision, make sure Skidder is never jumped first,
[02:24:17] and they'll be really happy, but for Liquid, find the clings, kill the clings,
[02:24:21] making over and over seven, just make sure he's just depressed in this game.
[02:24:25] Yeah, I mean, I think, from being honest, I think the bar of execution is even higher for Liquid this game.
[02:24:30] I think they need to put even better than they did last game.
[02:24:32] Because they have, it's really their only fight start, it's just this one clockwork.
[02:24:36] And that's a hero that if he's behind even a little bit, he becomes a useless bot.
[02:24:40] I mean, he's technically a bot, but even in the figurative sense, I think this hero is,
[02:24:45] I don't know how I feel about this and liquid they have, they have the pressure on him.
[02:24:50] Well, the talking about liquid having the pressure on them is our good coach,
[02:24:53] blitz to hype up the crowd a little bit.
[02:24:56] I mean, it's not a different one. Are you full-faith in your grasp?
[02:24:59] Yeah, I mean, I think we've run this scenario a few times, we were up till like 2 a.m. last night doing it.
[02:25:05] So if like I have to have confidence in ourself and these are heroes and so you know I'll run it back
[02:25:10] All right, I do need to know about the run back to the Razer off lane. It wasn't necessarily bad in game one
[02:25:15] But it felt like that wasn't impact so it was the idea behind doing it again here
[02:25:19] I think we just kind of played we played super well around mid and then we just didn't really find an opportunity to connect a Razer
[02:25:24] And I think that makes ace look like ten times worse than it is I think that's more of like a team fault
[02:25:29] But we've run it successfully against them before and it's one of our better heroes and so I don't want to lose faith
[02:25:35] Especially in the best of five, like you get a lot of opportunities.
[02:25:37] Like even if you're down to a, like, I feel like we can turn it around no problem.
[02:25:41] So I want to continue to run the stuff that we know that we do well.
[02:25:44] Yeah, and using run it against and before is this in competitive and
[02:25:47] it's like how familiar would you say you always falcons?
[02:25:50] I mean, we screamed against them 14 times before.
[02:25:54] And like the last week?
[02:25:55] Like right before we found out we were trying to get to each other.
[02:25:58] And they were our main practice partner.
[02:25:59] I think we probably only played each other for a really long time.
[02:26:02] And so, we have some weird internal meta
[02:26:05] that only the two of us understand right now,
[02:26:07] because I don't know how many times
[02:26:08] they're gonna first pick Bristol against anybody else.
[02:26:09] So, it's a little bit like Kooky in that regard.
[02:26:13] And then, and the last question is,
[02:26:14] you guys, going for the first pick in game one,
[02:26:16] that was your choice.
[02:26:18] You got it again, you're in game number two,
[02:26:19] is there a sort of, an reason as to why you guys
[02:26:22] were willing to get Falcons a second pick
[02:26:23] when it's what they went on the lot?
[02:26:25] Oh, well, we have priority in the first game.
[02:26:27] I think we could have maybe assumed
[02:26:29] that they were just taking second pick
[02:26:31] because they prefer it, but we just run it a few times
[02:26:33] and this situation looked pretty good,
[02:26:35] and then they chose second pick in this game.
[02:26:37] And so sometimes it just like,
[02:26:40] if you lose game one, it just ends up like that,
[02:26:41] and you're just like damn.
[02:26:43] Oh, you know, I think I feel good.
[02:26:45] I feel good regardless.
[02:26:47] Awesome, well, words of wisdom of course,
[02:26:49] let's thank you so much for joining me.
[02:26:51] And with this, it is gonna be a game number two
[02:26:54] and a best five between liquid and falcons.
[02:27:01] it's a good one.
[02:27:12] Game 2 time, LASU gentlemen, it's best of five between team
[02:27:16] liquid and team falcons.
[02:27:19] Game 1 for the most part, pretty one sided.
[02:27:22] Coming into this game to drop with the changes,
[02:27:24] we obviously got the expected one.
[02:27:25] There's no bristle this time in play, but overall, do you kind of
[02:27:30] to see the could happen a bit of a better shot this time.
[02:27:33] Uh.
[02:27:35] It could be hard.
[02:27:37] I think it's not the play lot better.
[02:27:39] Honestly, that last game, I think the ace got left on an island
[02:27:42] a bit too much.
[02:27:43] They didn't rally around in with timings.
[02:27:44] I think I said that.
[02:27:45] Look at those.
[02:27:46] You're already two.
[02:27:47] But they're trying to run it back.
[02:27:48] So that's them saying we messed up massively.
[02:27:50] They're playing the case razor again.
[02:27:51] So they're feeling like they can't play a lot better.
[02:27:54] So let's just see if that's the case.
[02:27:56] Falcons.
[02:27:57] It's a very strong standard kind of draft them.
[02:27:58] I'm shocked that they got the chance.
[02:27:59] I'll be totally honest with you, that one I thought was going to be taken away, but they get their consistent
[02:28:05] Mars versus Razer, they love playing this matchup and then they have this primal versus Razer also. So they also have
[02:28:10] heroes that they wanted to play against. So yeah, let's say that second pick really matters as we're seeing.
[02:28:15] What six game win streak right now for Falcons?
[02:28:19] Absolutely, a second pick very much just favor than that much more on the stats so far.
[02:28:24] Let's see, and do you do that goes down the same way here in this game too?
[02:28:29] And we have to, yeah, right, like liquid that last game,
[02:28:32] boxy and niche, they were pretty oppressive in the early game,
[02:28:35] and it did not go really bad.
[02:28:36] I'm not really watering after the first 15 minutes.
[02:28:38] So let's see if, I mean, let's see if they could do,
[02:28:40] I don't know how you can do more in terms of them, too.
[02:28:43] But let's see if at least the rest of them, at least,
[02:28:45] can rally around how well those two played,
[02:28:47] because they really were kind of cruising doing everything
[02:28:49] needed for the team.
[02:28:50] They just, yeah, the overall team did not get together with it.
[02:28:54] No.
[02:28:55] I think, you know, without a doubt, just the fact that Falcons
[02:28:58] don't have a bristle this game in a moth hands.
[02:29:01] That should at least give liquid more options on moose to make
[02:29:04] record because it very much did feel that for a lot of that
[02:29:06] game one, it was just that liquid couldn't do anything
[02:29:09] because of the fact that there was a bristle in the game.
[02:29:11] You know, not to say that, you know, the Amar Mars is going to be that
[02:29:14] much easier to deal with, of course, a grandma to hear her
[02:29:16] for him and one of his other classics that you like to bring out.
[02:29:19] But it is at least a hero that liquid, they're going to have
[02:29:22] better options of finding chances to actually get close to and
[02:29:25] sometimes actually killing him, at least on paper.
[02:29:28] Yeah, and also we have to point it out right, too.
[02:29:31] This is a pretty, I can just straight up say kind of bad lane from Falcons, right?
[02:29:34] It's a Largo Mars, so this is just a get what we can on the lane, and it's a Jekiro
[02:29:38] Cas, which is extremely strong, Cas is one of those that even though I know some of us
[02:29:42] don't like the heroes so much in some situations, it is one of the pros like versus Mars
[02:29:46] in terms of laneing.
[02:29:51] No dragon?
[02:29:52] We see there, they caught the creep wave really well done there from Tulfu.
[02:29:55] The top lane for Falcons is just designed to survive and get XP.
[02:29:57] It's not about really killing making unless there's a huge mistake.
[02:30:04] And then of course you're there looking at the mid lane matchup.
[02:30:05] And as we were saying, from the start of the last game,
[02:30:08] Nisha had an incredible start against Maureen.
[02:30:10] This time on the left against the primal,
[02:30:12] this still a matchup that you expect to see Nisha get a bit of head on.
[02:30:15] And can you get as much and a far ahead as he did in the game one against Maureen's primal?
[02:30:21] Not as ahead, but there's another matchup that the less it's one of it.
[02:30:24] the best one. See, this equipment primal first got added. This was one of its storm
[02:30:27] and best in Queen of Pain. I think we're the three top ones that people like to play. So,
[02:30:31] but in terms of a pressiveness, I don't think he's going to be able to do the same thing as
[02:30:34] that storm did. And he should just play it really well.
[02:30:40] So far, I'm a man. It's definitely not going as rough as baron on the CS.
[02:30:46] Still take it. I have a lot of damage here. But of course, on the way out the bottle,
[02:30:50] It's just about to be delivered, so it will be able to keep himself filled up in the lane.
[02:30:55] And this side of the Maureen has Chen, right?
[02:30:58] So it's not that snake does it too much, but he can send the creep to the Nio ruling.
[02:31:02] Make sure the Maureen at least gets to the event.
[02:31:04] Just top. They're going to get him.
[02:31:06] He's sending around pretty low, and so if he's able to finish off the job.
[02:31:09] So first, come and him for the safe lane, do a liquid for this game too.
[02:31:13] to
[02:31:16] try to meet the creepways not
[02:31:18] going to meet at this time
[02:31:20] but make a has a double way if
[02:31:22] he's going to be able to deny the
[02:31:24] secondary wave away from that
[02:31:26] horizontal might even be able to
[02:31:27] go for another.
[02:31:29] He can Chris already used the
[02:31:31] catchy lick so this dual break
[02:31:32] on the end of finishing him off.
[02:31:34] And I'm on this point he got
[02:31:36] anything to blow back to firm
[02:31:37] response.
[02:31:38] That's a good clean up both the
[02:31:39] kills here on this top lane.
[02:31:41] He kind of choose what he wants to do in terms of moving around to if he does get early boots.
[02:31:45] He can even move to other lanes and because the hazard at this point is kind of in this like one view one or in this weird scenario
[02:31:50] I hope we could do quite a bit with this type of start in terms of lane pressure
[02:31:55] Very nice stop. Let's time around here from the safe lane of liquid. I mean, well last game
[02:32:00] No, it wasn't necessarily a rough start for me cake just wasn't the easiest, but yeah, but this sort of start and set up the top is giving in
[02:32:06] and we really should start to see Mickey get his arms on like a much
[02:32:10] much quicker.
[02:32:10] Let's see down bottom.
[02:32:11] I don't know if the chance to bring down one of them
[02:32:13] can make that skaters well though.
[02:32:14] It's gonna be a bit of a big deal off with the death pack.
[02:32:16] Most of the field comes in is not quite enough.
[02:32:18] First to kill skater off with the static link damage
[02:32:20] from ace will build up, take him down.
[02:32:22] So, liquid straight off the bat air in this game to both side lanes
[02:32:27] going so much better than what they're able to achieve
[02:32:29] in the first few minutes to game one.
[02:32:30] Top lane, they're even looking to dive here.
[02:32:32] They're getting the first one, it was a bar and crit.
[02:32:34] They're getting bullied back back up to most of the 10 to a just
[02:32:38] four minutes in liquid much more explosive style here with the
[02:32:42] set of this time. This top lane is dominating 25 seven
[02:32:46] tofu pressure in two years. They're losing a whole
[02:32:48] way, moment. That's another creepway that we're going to be
[02:32:50] missing. Meanwhile, mid-Nisha is having that success.
[02:32:54] Okay, so it looks like it's a bit of a different right approach.
[02:32:56] Last time they fully emphasize shut down my rain, put
[02:32:59] words this time. It's shut down the off-late a bit more.
[02:33:02] That's all. It's going to be crited then. They're going to
[02:33:04] to take him out. He wasn't least able to walk up and actually kill off both of their
[02:33:07] couriers before he ends up dying. But it is still in dying yet again. And Nick K. Continuant
[02:33:13] to have this fantastic sound of the safe lane, massively in parts of the area. He's a
[02:33:18] aggression that Toph is running away with. Chase down, ace this time, out in his own,
[02:33:22] falcons, get the chance to strike back, get a nice kill here between the both of them.
[02:33:26] The cool process is what we're going down on the side lanes. The mid lane matchup is very
[02:33:31] much Indonesia with that advantage, not quite as severe indeed as was the case at this point in game
[02:33:36] moment of monestorm, but still, you know, so far across all three lanes, liquid, they're going to be much
[02:33:41] more happy with the opening, as opposed to what they were able to get done in those first kind of five
[02:33:46] minutes of game one. 100% and now let's see if this, tomorrow getting gone on again, it could be a trouble.
[02:33:53] I mean, he has got stick charges and a man go to try and push back on Mikko, get the angle
[02:33:58] but he's going to continue to get chased down.
[02:34:02] They don't even want to bother chasing,
[02:34:04] and these Micka wants to get back to the creeps.
[02:34:06] So just sort of leave tofu to deal with this one.
[02:34:08] So Mark, you're left to just spend time running away.
[02:34:10] I don't see being back to safety bottoms.
[02:34:12] They get it on to Skeeter again, and Snake can't stop them.
[02:34:14] Skeeter dead once more.
[02:34:16] So as soon as they start, he starts,
[02:34:18] gets back into his plan, gets the chance to get back in aggressive,
[02:34:20] on towards Skeeter, taking out that carry.
[02:34:23] Yeah, liquid.
[02:34:24] I guess, game on was the warmer.
[02:34:26] Now they're ready to go and we see that A's did adapt with his build a little bit here
[02:34:30] at least in terms of skills.
[02:34:31] Last time he went 204 which was just straight up farming and he did a really put pressure
[02:34:35] now he is statically and I'm actually already seeing the difference in terms of that.
[02:34:38] Even though it's first a ranged hero he could get it stuck onto the chest for easier.
[02:34:42] And Boccy, he's finally launching a king,
[02:34:44] snaking and at least hold him back there with the arm of the deep from the buglet.
[02:34:47] the
[02:34:55] on the mid lane.
[02:34:56] Chris trying to show up, gets some of the XP, a niche, especially backed up with talk
[02:35:00] through these two, you know, posing a massive amount of kill thread to anyone that does
[02:35:05] try and show their face here in the mid lane.
[02:35:07] In on that top lane, I'm not wearing any careful.
[02:35:08] He's getting very, very low.
[02:35:10] Mick is just going to try and make the jump friend.
[02:35:12] He has got the backup of Marry.
[02:35:14] Mick got anyway to get out of this one.
[02:35:16] He's going to be able to jump away over the echo slash.
[02:35:18] He'll get out of that.
[02:35:19] So that was Marry and trying to sort of set up with this sort of bait play from the Mar.
[02:35:23] doesn't end up working out. They don't get a kill off the back of this
[02:35:26] Micka. He's able to continue to remain in the lane and keep having a free
[02:35:29] time following the creeps.
[02:35:31] He's just putting a lot of pressure into this mid tower with the liquid
[02:35:33] fires. Well, too, since he did go to an optic, he can't eat it the
[02:35:36] tower.
[02:35:38] I mean, trying to make moves around to fix the side lanes a little bit
[02:35:41] here as we see there, but a three K lead and there's that
[02:35:43] he's building up on the hour.
[02:35:45] This is false. So I mean, it was pretty much just the around the
[02:35:48] similar time. Lost and the quick to I able to get the tier one. They
[02:35:52] do it again here in game 2. We'll see if this game ends up going in a different way
[02:35:56] though because kind of from that point almost thinks it starts to go down hill for liquid
[02:36:00] as things stabilize from fountains side of things. This time around without a doubt it's
[02:36:05] going to be a lot tougher for fountains to sort of stabilize the silly situation now.
[02:36:08] We just how much liquid's getting in a seven minutes 4k lead. It's a massive storm.
[02:36:13] It's a massive start and also for falcons their heroes. The two supports in particular
[02:36:17] are completely reliant on chorus. They do not want to be provide much damage at all.
[02:36:21] It's going to be another killing, very likely on the race, coming in with a static lane,
[02:36:25] chasing, snaking down.
[02:36:26] It's getting hard for Falcons to sort of share their faces in the lanes already.
[02:36:30] It may have to try to bring numbers somewhere, but Malreen shows me it gets caught by the
[02:36:35] stun.
[02:36:36] That's straight on to it.
[02:36:37] He's dead.
[02:36:38] He's gone.
[02:36:39] To hopefully want a killing spreeer after the garrison, the try to make moves on to make
[02:36:41] a hit top end between a mar and Cret.
[02:36:43] But they can't.
[02:36:44] He's going to actually turn and get aggressive back over to Wolf's Cret jumping around.
[02:36:49] and the mask still a full level away from picking up the six getting a renal line.
[02:36:52] Micky's just got a bite back and bite time for Liquid to back up to come in.
[02:36:56] They're going to get the set up one or more.
[02:36:58] Triple try and lick him back to safety, but he can't fail the mask out of this one.
[02:37:02] There's a mud dead.
[02:37:03] Liquid just rolling across the map.
[02:37:05] Bottom they get the catch everywhere.
[02:37:07] It's, yeah they're there, turn it up here and gain two liquid.
[02:37:10] And we'll get a little bit of a punch back as they catch so if we're beyond the tier one,
[02:37:14] tough outcomes, but they need so much more to slow down this early game from liquid.
[02:37:19] And you show it.
[02:37:21] It's going to be able to take this tab.
[02:37:22] I look around and see if I can get a jump in.
[02:37:27] And with the sort of start as well in a mic.
[02:37:29] He's like, I'm just going to get the battle fury online straight away.
[02:37:32] We've sort of seen a lot of, because he's kind of straight away from this.
[02:37:35] Go for this kind of lats into death.
[02:37:37] So with this fight, he's just going to try and get the battle fury on it a crazy
[02:37:41] time.
[02:37:42] The good eyes are making.
[02:37:44] We're going to go for the setup.
[02:37:46] We just have to jump away.
[02:37:47] That's how it's at Marry and can't get the catch on him.
[02:37:50] No chance for him to close him with the angle of the onslaught and the pulverise.
[02:37:53] Mick gave everyone a hold.
[02:37:54] It's not just against two heroes on his head.
[02:37:56] But now against three heroes that they just can't punish him in this top lane.
[02:38:00] Now, Chris, it's just constant.
[02:38:02] They're just play super aggressive on liquid.
[02:38:04] I mean, Marry has to sort of hold back Nisha.
[02:38:06] But he might lose his own life for this.
[02:38:07] He does.
[02:38:08] He's able to bail for it out of that.
[02:38:09] But he's not going to be too happy without a tall Marry.
[02:38:11] a total mower ain't as he's dead again and look at all the adjustments you know you're
[02:38:15] talking about some item things that liquid maybe identified last game and the panel
[02:38:18] was talking about some itemization. Lashes going for the Mac he's going for the snowball
[02:38:22] to rally around around the team around him. The razors going more carry us and the
[02:38:26] casual you said is going more of this relaxed build rather than feeling maybe that he has a
[02:38:30] timer since he's had such a godly land. This is this is really nice. So for Falcons now, they
[02:38:36] have to try to slow the pace down because they don't have altis really online and their
[02:38:39] damage, it needs to have kind of Mars and Primal to provide damage.
[02:38:43] The two supports don't have any damage.
[02:38:45] I'm going to go for eight, but Mick K has never described because he needs to be
[02:38:47] against the Silas on tomorrow and putting us up to the pulverise.
[02:38:49] Chris going to try and chase a Stanley Clark commit for this, and he is getting destroyed
[02:38:53] by Mick K. And now Mick is ready to look to maybe dive, crit, and marina as well.
[02:38:57] They have to just rush right now to get out of here.
[02:39:02] They cannot deal with the Casers right now, 2-0-3.
[02:39:05] They come in with a super start.
[02:39:07] Nisha takes out the Tier 1 down on the bottom lane.
[02:39:10] Falcons, they just can't get anything at all right now.
[02:39:13] This is so impressive from liquid.
[02:39:14] Look at the nowhere as Mars is almost being surpassed by
[02:39:16] clock, which your Kiro has to factorize with these, the primal.
[02:39:20] Just all three towers taken super early and just playing to their strengths,
[02:39:23] rallying around Nisha, winning the lane's very hard.
[02:39:26] And looking as much as Triple Lainwin, and his enough,
[02:39:28] it's a Mars, there's still level five for them.
[02:39:30] Liquid supports and level six and level seven.
[02:39:32] They'll be able to get him out of the court,
[02:39:33] The hook shop was safe for him, I'm not dead again.
[02:39:36] This is a series.
[02:39:37] He's so far behind on both XP and Gold now.
[02:39:41] It's a very different game from us.
[02:39:43] We saw him pop off the, you know, a super chill game on the bristling game one.
[02:39:47] But he game two on his Mars.
[02:39:49] He is getting punished.
[02:39:51] But I'm not really happy for this off the kill.
[02:39:53] It's a ace.
[02:39:54] He caught ace lifts.
[02:39:55] He's able to turn.
[02:39:56] Okay.
[02:39:57] Oh my god.
[02:39:58] With that chill.
[02:39:59] The old chip fast.
[02:40:00] It was the chip fast return damage.
[02:40:01] Did get him.
[02:40:02] same time.
[02:40:03] Oh no, no.
[02:40:04] Okay, continue to rack up the kills, kills of crit, liquid just bringing constant action
[02:40:09] on and out of bounds, can save us down.
[02:40:11] Which is 11 minutes here.
[02:40:13] Two minutes, God.
[02:40:15] That might be the fastest two minutes I've seen.
[02:40:17] It's 11 minutes.
[02:40:18] This is crazy.
[02:40:20] Balkins, they've got arena off, they need to do something around a tower because they don't have
[02:40:24] a hand off.
[02:40:25] I mean, he got his level six.
[02:40:27] So we'll be able to get the arena off once and make a backup coming in.
[02:40:30] to take the money to make it for this dive, make that.
[02:40:35] The bring me down, they will still lose snaking,
[02:40:37] and now got the grab on the wall's toe foot.
[02:40:39] Balkins getting a bit of an opening to,
[02:40:41] yes, in Kills and Matana master,
[02:40:42] to keep that pretty low, but I'll get the spear off.
[02:40:44] And with the help of Maryn, finish off to Kills as well.
[02:40:47] So look for all the kind of flawless aggression
[02:40:49] that have been coming in so far.
[02:40:51] That was the first little bit of a slip up from them there.
[02:40:54] They lose a big kill, they lose Mick A.
[02:40:56] But relentless aggression, indeed.
[02:40:58] This is I think this is a design how they wanted to play last game two, but things just crumbled super fast this one
[02:41:03] This is the fastest I've seen the play 17 kills 12 minutes four towers and so looking to accelerate around Nisha
[02:41:08] He's got the grieves. I'm looking at this show. I'm going to get the set up marring car get out of this
[02:41:14] Nisha's got the backup stand will connect
[02:41:17] Marring god
[02:41:18] Could we try the set from the turn on the boat to the bringing his skita for the damage
[02:41:21] But is it enough damage at this point even kill boxy?
[02:41:24] Now throw the blocker and they out onto Orton, but Potsie's got a lift, he gets away and
[02:41:29] Mark can find the sort of distance to get the spear on towards him, has to turn to
[02:41:32] Neesher instead.
[02:41:33] And now it's totally fine if I could have to run Skeeters in trouble.
[02:41:36] Neesher lands the stun, they've caught, they can't get all the try, he lives with the death
[02:41:39] pact.
[02:41:40] Took a little late out to Trollbrew Skeeters, attached to get away from Neesher, but they
[02:41:44] can't jump to him, takes him out.
[02:41:47] Again, sort of three dead, I mean, effectively I'll three close, they're going down one
[02:41:51] by one on Falcon side.
[02:41:53] So Nick, we're going to liquid it.
[02:41:55] They might have a bit of a slip-up,
[02:41:56] where they lost themselves to carry.
[02:41:59] But Strab back in Nesha is leading the child,
[02:42:01] getting these skills.
[02:42:02] Aces getting gone on here by the three of them,
[02:42:04] but they can't kill him, three of you.
[02:42:05] They can't kill him, kill his naked.
[02:42:08] They've got to run.
[02:42:08] Bucks, he's got hook shop back up.
[02:42:10] And he lands it.
[02:42:11] Straight in, over to the wall's crit.
[02:42:13] Yes, the code's down towards him.
[02:42:14] Marrying both, trying, free, crit.
[02:42:15] But the fat trees don't come in, crit.
[02:42:17] Plan is guitar, we'll manage to heal.
[02:42:19] Marrying top, back over to the wall's in.
[02:42:21] to stop it. So, folks, we will finally fall.
[02:42:26] But indeed, over on the other side,
[02:42:28] spaces there were pre-14 minutes in
[02:42:30] they're taking another tier 2 tower.
[02:42:32] They left the setup and space to claim both
[02:42:34] for these wisdoms coming up by looks of a fold.
[02:42:36] I don't think I've seen such an impressive first.
[02:42:38] I feel like I haven't even got to say anything for five minutes
[02:42:40] because I was just constantly looking at them.
[02:42:42] Yeah, it's honestly one of the most impressive
[02:42:44] early games I've seen. It's 21 minutes.
[02:42:46] There if the 9-8 of the shrines,
[02:42:48] I think Topos what like a little nine with drums on his way to bearing perhaps while the
[02:42:51] Mars only has a little seven. They completely broke the lanes and honestly, I have to
[02:42:54] give Topos a lot of credit on this jacquira. That was amazing.
[02:42:58] But now for Falcons, it's really difficult for them to really cover. Of course, he didn't
[02:43:03] have how much the lead is, but also like I was mentioning the two supports. They just
[02:43:05] don't deal damage. So they're all about being behind the supports, trying to buff them
[02:43:09] up even the, you know, these cores. They just don't really do anything either. So they're
[02:43:13] going to have to try to catch liquid off guard with numbers and liquid, at least from what
[02:43:17] we've seen so far they literally just didn't give him any time any space they were just
[02:43:20] just right at them where what we're stronger even on supports and these cores.
[02:43:24] I'm off.
[02:43:26] I'm gonna run to the side of the roof and shut up not quite close enough to get the pull-up
[02:43:33] onto in this time.
[02:43:35] Okay they pass the blank over.
[02:43:41] Malarin does have it finished they're stalking a so looks at their trying to catch if
[02:43:46] in a single element.
[02:43:47] I mean, still pretty tanky at this point,
[02:43:50] but with the control,
[02:43:51] they've gone enough to take him out between the two of them.
[02:43:54] Boxes coming in with a wrap round for the site,
[02:43:56] does you want to go for the hook shopplay?
[02:43:57] Doesn't really have anyone close by.
[02:43:59] So we'll hold back for now in the jump.
[02:44:01] Fowl can this finding themselves a little bit of a chance
[02:44:04] to take at least something away from their quid.
[02:44:09] After make any type of crazy move at this point,
[02:44:12] you've lost control of the whole map.
[02:44:14] I'm trying to think of where Falcons can step out
[02:44:16] to make moves, but there's not really this whole top side is not existed and bottom
[02:44:19] side all of the liquids there, so they did jump and take you know season opportunity
[02:44:22] for a kill, but now liquids all rally they're identifying. We have double vision around
[02:44:27] their triangle, so if we just play bottom side there's not really moves, the Falcons
[02:44:30] can make to catch up. It's very difficult at least.
[02:44:33] Now you keep it up with the farm of Nick has seems pretty much impossible.
[02:44:37] You know, definitely one of the benefits of going for their shorthy and these sort of
[02:44:40] situation sometimes you may be expect the character not go for kind of a farming item when
[02:44:45] and they're taking over the map this quickly.
[02:44:47] But Mick and I noticed he could go for this battle fury rush.
[02:44:49] He's still gonna be able to get everything else online after it.
[02:44:51] And it just means that that kind of distance between him
[02:44:54] and scared of the growth is just gonna be exponential.
[02:44:57] Because they're still taking objectives.
[02:44:58] They're still taking fights.
[02:45:00] He's able to clean up camps incredibly quickly
[02:45:02] and just be insanely far on this chest.
[02:45:06] We're getting himself a freebie top as he catches out,
[02:45:08] snaking.
[02:45:09] Yeah, this is gonna be some crazy levels of network
[02:45:11] we're gonna see.
[02:45:12] So we're gonna go on the chest, Gary.
[02:45:14] and if he the mark, caught out once again, it really has been, you know, both of these games
[02:45:19] right. We've seen all Flane suffer. Game one, ace absolutely suffered. Game two, I'm
[02:45:25] all. He's suffering pretty much on the same level. Maybe even more. I think we could really
[02:45:30] use it just good need to wake up in that first game, because it does seem like a lot of
[02:45:34] the game plan that they had in theory for that last game was similar to this one. Maybe
[02:45:39] having box. He also played this clockwork. You know, he played the tusk. I think this clock
[02:45:42] He was also quite impressive at the skill build.
[02:45:44] He did go four battery that we don't always see.
[02:45:48] It's just all the right moves this time.
[02:45:49] Liquid last time were pretty disconnected.
[02:45:51] This time we're seeing very innocent.
[02:45:53] I'm thinking about going for a steal.
[02:45:56] It's not gonna come soon enough.
[02:45:59] I ask it to be rose, go on the A just picked up a mask
[02:46:01] and a try for a jump.
[02:46:01] We'll get the arena down on the fourth.
[02:46:03] But D-Catch, make it, make it,
[02:46:04] and then go still able to jump over the wardsim.
[02:46:06] A mask got a run.
[02:46:07] Foul to get it.
[02:46:08] Trying to back off.
[02:46:09] Liquid can make it the catches.
[02:46:10] He'd if he'd get collipped by the Plasma Phil's Slower,
[02:46:12] ace chasing down the static lane,
[02:46:14] as if dead clinks, crit, just out of range of the stun.
[02:46:18] He'll get out of there, but that's the carry dead once again.
[02:46:27] That's where it moves for Falcons.
[02:46:28] He doesn't attempt for maybe just a kill to get out.
[02:46:31] Looks like they might be able to fight closely split away.
[02:46:36] That should be a job well done.
[02:46:39] He's got back up coming and I mean, time for we'll finally go down see if they can at least get away from Micka though
[02:46:45] I've got the spear push back on towards him
[02:46:47] Should give enough chance for them to get out Micka's gonna do his best to keep chasing
[02:46:51] Okay, we'll be able to put down the tree himself out of that
[02:46:55] Cool there we go the ace
[02:46:57] And I was gonna try with the spear push back in the trees, but now they can't go on to him
[02:47:02] I mean, maybe we're scared that they can try
[02:47:04] They're thinking about him, I think he's just gonna jump straight over towards Craig
[02:47:37] just decides just consequences here from Falcons.
[02:47:40] Liquid, they're up to the high ground.
[02:47:42] It's 19 minutes in, folks.
[02:47:46] A more.
[02:47:48] Okay, let's try to avoid a war's in,
[02:47:49] crit, trying to bail them out.
[02:47:51] Use?
[02:47:52] Go.
[02:47:53] Yeah, I can't do so.
[02:47:54] Too much farm here, I'm making it right now.
[02:47:57] Having an absolute treat of a performance.
[02:48:00] Yeah, I like that he went this Yashikaya built, too.
[02:48:02] Just insanely aggressive.
[02:48:04] Just going for these dive plays.
[02:48:05] You know what I'm saying?
[02:48:06] looking at a two is even though the storm right,
[02:48:09] Nisha popped up pretty hard in terms of early game.
[02:48:11] How much he was able in terms of map oppression?
[02:48:14] There's some, I'm still like with this edict in terms of accelerating
[02:48:16] things so much obviously how fast they got these T2s.
[02:48:18] I'm really seeing it and also, you know, then last picking the
[02:48:21] clanks, this last feels even better because you can always know where
[02:48:24] the clanks is. Just this edict plus this pole snorva, even if the
[02:48:27] things are running around in this, I'm going to see this is quickly enough
[02:48:30] coming in. They just couldn't get back to safety.
[02:48:32] I mean, she coming in with this wrap around means that file because they
[02:48:35] could not run back to the safety of their base, clean it up the triple kill.
[02:48:41] I don't see that. Is there any way Falcons can slow this down?
[02:48:44] The quick they're going to continue to pick up the objectives.
[02:48:48] Over the world for toolman service.
[02:48:49] Going to be the shot here for block seat.
[02:48:51] I mean Falcons, they're maybe seeing if they can catch someone out on their own.
[02:48:56] But as soon as they sort of start to move over to that side of the map,
[02:48:59] Niche is going to be back in the neighborhood.
[02:49:00] They'll look over to Ward's Niche.
[02:49:02] Neesho on a try for the job.
[02:49:04] Can they pass through and though?
[02:49:06] Is up by the tier 1, TP backups coming in?
[02:49:09] Neesho is going to get caught in the redone, the spirit,
[02:49:12] but the damage is not enough to bring him down.
[02:49:14] They're going to start back in a way.
[02:49:15] Snaking will TP out, marines on the run.
[02:49:17] It's going to try and turn to more taste.
[02:49:19] But at this point, he just doesn't have to bomb on the damage.
[02:49:21] To threaten the Razer.
[02:49:23] Mick, it comes swinging across.
[02:49:24] He's got the set up here with the old skin
[02:49:26] and trying to hide in the shadows.
[02:49:28] He's taking him out and trying to find his happens on him.
[02:49:30] he's going to try and tackle the jacquero that he can't abuse a vicious clean up the
[02:49:34] Mars ace ready to fully grip back up to the base.
[02:49:37] He's still on the run.
[02:49:38] He will bring back down to the food.
[02:49:40] But the time it took just brought enough of Mick and he just come back across.
[02:49:44] Kill skater up again.
[02:49:46] That's good.
[02:49:47] It's going to be the money for Mick at up the full BKB coming out now.
[02:49:50] Twenty one minute.
[02:49:51] Twenty more to send it.
[02:49:52] Battle Fury, Yashikai, a BKB on the cares.
[02:49:56] Love what what what can you do about that?
[02:49:59] It's 46 kills is the thing that I think is more the most impressive thing for me. I've had games in special in this tournament with me in you
[02:50:05] It's been 20 minutes and there's been like seven. There's 46 kills
[02:50:09] That's has a lot about how oppressive and aggressive liquids playing you can see Falcons is trying to rally around when they split up around the niche
[02:50:16] Attempting for that kill mid, but they'd never clanks
[02:50:19] They can go for plays like this with the clanks catching them off guard. You can see they can't snipe one target
[02:50:25] Maybe not the rest of them though. Then they probably just have the fight, but they can try with this advantage
[02:50:29] You shouldn't try for the jump, Nick.
[02:50:32] The opening, but Nesus got back up, Bocsey.
[02:50:35] You shouldn't get the jump, but now we're in with the PKP!
[02:50:38] Alright, damn it.
[02:50:39] She's KP, she's showing. He actually cleans up the boat for them.
[02:50:42] Else we're on the map, though, the Micky was able to make the mood
[02:50:45] to take down a mile solo. He's now getting storked by Skita.
[02:50:48] I don't know, Skita's going to really want to show himself though.
[02:50:51] Not a lot of people on his own against the cares,
[02:50:53] but that little move med. I mean, I said, let's quite a big one.
[02:50:56] taking out those two kills. I mean, Maran, he made it work there with our first use of the BKB. That was massive.
[02:51:02] It's honestly if Crane Malreen can just set up this is their damage.
[02:51:06] Throw to a croak on top of my ball.
[02:51:08] Now that he has BKB, he has M damage too. This is your damage. You can actually kill targets.
[02:51:12] You can kill the, the needs to less, you went greedy.
[02:51:15] He went leaves blink, Yashikaya, not BKB.
[02:51:18] So you do have windows, perhaps, of catching them if they are split off gardener on the side of the liquid because they did go for that greedy item.
[02:51:24] Mickey did not got greedy though, which I'm happy about.
[02:51:26] He did got greedy.
[02:51:27] It feels pretty flawless so far this game.
[02:51:30] That's awesome.
[02:51:31] This is for it.
[02:51:32] It's another big set up and they're going to have to follow up.
[02:51:36] Ooh, yeah.
[02:51:37] And reaching kills.
[02:51:38] It's one thing to sort of get stonting in a game like game one.
[02:51:43] But it's an absolutely, you know, another different beast right.
[02:51:47] If you start to lose a game where you had so much momentum as so much advantage.
[02:51:52] for now they can still afford maybe to make a couple more mistakes but
[02:51:56] they can it's you can you know losing these sort of heroes when you'll
[02:51:59] that far ahead and you've taken that much against a team it's gonna
[02:52:03] at least feel a little rough for liquid you know this is not smooth sailing
[02:52:07] if they get caught out like this no definitely not even the clicks is still a bit
[02:52:11] poor of course we have on skater but yeah you can have to watch out just
[02:52:14] the damage them out is actually going to be providing just with you know he's
[02:52:18] to be seen.
[02:52:20] If you sort of consider like what's been going down, this
[02:52:22] game's have fun the fact that over was what 33 to 17, 14 K.
[02:52:25] Leave. Now, Marlene's KDA, he's 12, 5 and 1.
[02:52:28] Yeah. And he is making a lot of happen there on the
[02:52:31] primal as he's done against just many times before on this hero.
[02:52:35] You know, you give him a hard game. He'll rise to the challenge,
[02:52:38] Marlene.
[02:52:39] They quit is looking to group up, but they do not want to
[02:52:41] hemorrhage any of these kills anymore. They even buy a
[02:52:43] link on Foxy. So all about stopping that primal.
[02:52:46] I'm going to make a jump forward here, what's it?
[02:52:49] It's very aggressive and it might just fail on Chris.
[02:52:52] Leave grip behind.
[02:52:53] Mick, of course, wants to try and chase him for more.
[02:52:56] But you have the catch on to Maury and he'll pop the BKB.
[02:52:59] You have to put the damage to kill him up for you if they shoot.
[02:53:01] Yeah, ace is coming under the wrap round.
[02:53:03] Maury tries to get out of the cops.
[02:53:05] He's got the on the floor.
[02:53:06] You can't get out of the tree line.
[02:53:08] Liquid's back to business.
[02:53:09] They run them down as the team and take Maury now.
[02:53:13] But at this point, he has to be target number one, right?
[02:53:16] You cannot ignore this primal.
[02:53:19] Mowering is absolutely the,
[02:53:20] he's sort of the hope here for thousands
[02:53:23] in terms of making a comeback.
[02:53:24] You kill him off.
[02:53:25] You take back to sort of the split position.
[02:53:27] You need to be in right now as liquid.
[02:53:30] Yeah, I think they're immediately like,
[02:53:31] okay guys, we're splitting up,
[02:53:32] we're showing three lanes.
[02:53:33] As soon as they start to stick together again,
[02:53:35] back to business,
[02:53:36] you can see that the damage is wasn't really there.
[02:53:38] Amar is literally a support
[02:53:40] as he has been for the majority of this game
[02:53:41] on this, on this maris.
[02:53:43] and he's having a tough one and he is, you know,
[02:53:45] and the rare one as well when he's on his mind,
[02:53:46] he rarely seems sort of down at this level
[02:53:49] of kind of support network.
[02:53:51] Skeeter.
[02:53:54] Okay, it was hunting for him.
[02:53:59] Hey, it really makes it good to down as well.
[02:54:01] On top of a lot of other concerns, of course we're talking.
[02:54:03] They really just as excretors
[02:54:05] in ability to really get much on the map.
[02:54:08] He's trying to find this farm,
[02:54:09] but he's constantly being stopped
[02:54:11] and he's almost getting double from that caz.
[02:54:16] Look at Mickie, he's literally on the prowl for him.
[02:54:18] I feel like at all times.
[02:54:21] Yeah, for now, just a sort of step behind.
[02:54:24] Yeah, definitely knows the Skeena's been in the area.
[02:54:29] Okay.
[02:54:32] I mean, because I guess that's the question mark.
[02:54:34] But look over this lead.
[02:54:35] When are we gonna see them group up
[02:54:36] and just go for the high ground?
[02:54:38] Yeah, after they get an A just and they get a banner, I imagine they can start going for pressure.
[02:54:42] But I think their line-up is designed about more killing targets and then getting the push, even though they have edict.
[02:54:49] But they might be able to force the issue if they just have this much of an advantage with an A just in a banner.
[02:54:54] Let's see, I have to have a couple of spears.
[02:54:59] I'm making a very close to that big big big one.
[02:55:01] You're just going to have to put a flight done for the next place, just 100 gold or so of getting the talisman invasion.
[02:55:08] Wow, okay, he's just he's just gone for the hacks. All right, so feel like it's good
[02:55:12] Doesn't need that BKB because they do have the grab through it, but sure. See if that ends up hurting him at all
[02:55:19] Now as long as they get the jump right if they consider to be the chance to get on top of my arena
[02:55:23] If they get the opening the hex into the hook shot, it's done that you easily have the damage to kill him up before he gets the chance
[02:55:29] It'd be a BKB
[02:55:30] It's just all about if they can find the primal at the start of the team fight when they start running as it's sort of his high ground
[02:55:37] and looking to take fountains on his five.
[02:55:40] But Nisha probably thinks like he has heroes
[02:55:42] that are gonna start for him.
[02:55:43] So he can go this type of build,
[02:55:44] and just be that final one.
[02:55:45] I'm pretty sure.
[02:55:46] Just if this is right here, I'll see a crit.
[02:55:52] We will have the X very soon, so it is gonna come at a very early time.
[02:55:58] And Skeeter has no protection.
[02:55:59] Skeeter did commit for the eggs.
[02:56:00] So honestly, fountains is all night on that.
[02:56:02] Like, you all don't want big team fight.
[02:56:04] They catch, like if they can catch a double spear,
[02:56:06] throw everything onto a target with these skeletons going out. Liquid. Just a much easier
[02:56:12] designed straight forward approach to the teamfights. And you're a fan of seeing like what
[02:56:17] box you can do here with this advantage. You're obviously getting the blink a lot earlier
[02:56:21] or like like sometimes I don't pick up a clock at all. Have a boxy getting a lot of them
[02:56:25] with this game. I love this game. I really like playing
[02:56:29] when you're ahead.
[02:56:30] Well, yeah, it's going to be an imp for this one.
[02:56:34] The starting leg of the BKP was running off over for my eights.
[02:56:36] Mourning potentially in trouble.
[02:56:38] I don't know if he's getting out of this one.
[02:56:40] He's not.
[02:56:41] He's out for a minute.
[02:56:42] Not some odd dead as well.
[02:56:44] Skitter, not anything you can do here,
[02:56:46] whilst pretty much on his own.
[02:56:47] He has to back away.
[02:56:48] And that was a situation at Mourine.
[02:56:50] He knows he has to sort of go all out to try and recover a game like this.
[02:56:53] He's been up on the refresher.
[02:56:55] So he's depth of 50.
[02:56:56] No chance he's getting back in on this.
[02:56:57] There should be all the freedom that Liquid needs to step into the rush, get an easy
[02:57:02] He has so much work to put out for him and they just link them even in this fight, so even more damage reduced rush spawns
[02:57:07] Snicking is trying pretty hard to cut creep waves. You see he's getting a decent amount of farm on the chin, but yeah overall state of the game liquid
[02:57:16] Well, wait to explosive this game. So 40
[02:57:19] 40 kills is just a crazy thing for me
[02:57:21] 20 minutes in and the same timings and yeah, just in saying sort of turn around after what we saw go down and game one
[02:57:30] You know, I think a lot of people will probably see in that game one and being like oh, you know
[02:57:34] Excited for these best of five's are we gonna get some sort of three-o's stomp?
[02:57:37] Well, this game too show him we're not getting that at least not iron their first best of five no way
[02:57:43] Look, I think we're gonna be seeing too much logo again
[02:57:47] It's not done too well in the center of games. That's only true
[02:57:49] I mean, I'm going to try to jump and get a little bit of awkward there.
[02:57:52] You know, that's a stop-fetched-backing off.
[02:57:54] He's going to look for the angle.
[02:57:55] Guess a pretty good spear on to Nick Kay.
[02:57:57] OK.
[02:57:58] But you know, follow up.
[02:57:59] Nick Kay, just turns, kills tomorrow.
[02:58:02] Yep, again.
[02:58:04] I'm liquid.
[02:58:05] They can very much look to start pressing the eye,
[02:58:08] granted if they want to.
[02:58:09] Two dead on falcons.
[02:58:12] I love all the little.
[02:58:13] Honestly, the little changes, the little adaptations.
[02:58:16] I feel like they're liquid-didn't this game.
[02:58:17] I mean, though, you see, you saw Razor.
[02:58:18] You saw caged you saw some similarities. I think these small little things these small adjustments that they have made were massive
[02:58:24] itemization as well, too. You saw that Ace pivoted in an East is the one going to green. Maybe that's something they discussed about the last game
[02:58:29] Maybe the storm could have
[02:58:31] Either way, they're playing
[02:58:33] They'd be better the last game on the high ground. Yeah, but we're going to definitely about because I mean
[02:58:38] Alicia
[02:58:39] With the ages he's not afraid to go for some kind of crazy bling hex. There's somebody steps up a little too far
[02:58:44] the bottom of my scorn on towards the mid
[02:58:49] that gives some respect to a marries for only a look for the special
[02:58:54] back on an issue if they could personally show the war to marry comes in as well
[02:58:58] to be give you a quick look on to what's in
[02:59:01] gets put to a stop that has to put the refresh to get that second be
[02:59:04] gave me and charge out of here
[02:59:06] they take it in down the once as the ages gone
[02:59:10] and they're able to do it relatively cleanly at least not losing any heroes
[02:59:13] but obviously in terms of items and skills, a lot to be thrown down for that.
[02:59:19] Liquid's still sticking in the area. Mars, the Mars is looking for a target to perhaps go for another pinplay,
[02:59:25] but not going to be able to get the angle. The hold, Liquid, not moving though, they're fake backing.
[02:59:31] Well, they're supposed to be running to make the jump back in. Smoke top,
[02:59:34] Nisha, back up to village pee, of course, ready for the Blink Hex play.
[02:59:38] if anybody on Falcons does show.
[02:59:41] They've got info down here in the war.
[02:59:43] They're going to buy Skidum.
[02:59:45] We're trying to get a creep count for two out on the map.
[02:59:47] But the vision was down there from liquid.
[02:59:49] It looked to turn towards tofu.
[02:59:51] But Skidum is not getting out of this one.
[02:59:53] That's him gone.
[02:59:54] Or at the same time, Nisha and Boxer,
[02:59:56] indeed able to shut down a mile trying to connect to him.
[02:59:59] Both caused dead on Falcons.
[03:00:01] Of course, this stage is having to spend all the money
[03:00:03] to get in on the action.
[03:00:04] They're just not going to have to buy back.
[03:00:06] get an off the tier 3, off towards the midset, a fire at sea liquid, falcons that they
[03:00:14] got anything left in the tank hit, and it's not looking like it, the mega creeps potentially
[03:00:20] coming up soon and they'll put the fortification.
[03:00:22] You see my R&TP back still?
[03:00:25] Ninety seconds until he's going to have that refresher ready to pop again, that's the full
[03:01:04] strike back on him is game two to bring a once or one now what it came from them
[03:01:09] fault. As hard as you can strike back really some pretty limited mistakes
[03:01:14] right I think like two kill two or three kills they could have probably avoided when
[03:01:18] they were split off but overall this was incredibly impressive the top lane
[03:01:22] completely smash is it Mars is never online neither is the bar go bottom lane
[03:01:27] smash is it and then made his design to smash with the less versus the
[03:01:30] primal matchup even though we did see pro now we start to recover things a
[03:01:33] little for himself because of on the buffs he had. It was literally him versus the world. That was insanely well played by the
[03:01:40] Red. It was across the board incredible performance from liquid and yeah, I'm off to such a hot game one. I mean, he ends that second game
[03:01:48] Lower net worth and anybody on liquid side. He got bullied this time round and
[03:01:54] Going into game three now, but you know, I've saw a liquid adapted to Falcons draw from game one
[03:01:59] We'll see what Falcons do when it comes to looking at what Liquid came in with this game too and how hot they're able to perform with this lineup against Falcons
[03:02:08] Can't wait for game free ladies and gentlemen's once or one right now between Liquid and Falcons
[03:02:15] Well, a close best of five is exactly what we wanted Falcons took that game one
[03:02:20] But Liquid coming back and swinging here for a game number two and we thought after the start they had in game one
[03:02:26] But if they would have played out the same you know this is essentially how they should have closed out that game one off
[03:02:31] Look we got the lead this time around the game to it. There's no slip in or sliding
[03:02:35] They had that lead they took advantage of it and they closed out the game beautifully. Yeah, closed it out
[03:02:39] I think it's an understatement
[03:02:41] They actually
[03:02:43] Land the door in that face some steel chum like holy cow that was not close
[03:02:48] Not like this game was like you could even see here in the highland
[03:02:51] And it's like, what is I've never seen Falcons get them certain they're off lane this hard.
[03:02:56] I think it's like the first time ever you have like kills back to back, you go here,
[03:03:00] then they go to the other side while they're killing here, they're killing like other people there.
[03:03:03] It's like one of the biggest storms I've just ever seen against Falcons,
[03:03:06] because they're usually like the masters of even if they don't have good lanes,
[03:03:09] or like they don't have good team for they will split the game and delay.
[03:03:12] But in this game, no chance.
[03:03:14] I mean, there's normally a point in which Falcons find that side right?
[03:03:16] Against Liquid Liquid always goes over aggressive at some point.
[03:03:19] But here, it was just beautiful aggression.
[03:03:21] It is so well in the first 50 minutes.
[03:03:23] Now, if there was a random A step or a random LESHRIK perfect,
[03:03:27] like it didn't really matter, it just go again, keep going.
[03:03:30] So Fairfax and Liquid, we wanted them to play the better lanes,
[03:03:33] the stronger tempo.
[03:03:34] There's a walkway, what hoping for in game one,
[03:03:36] it didn't really come through.
[03:03:38] So they are clearly adapting throughout this big master five,
[03:03:41] going to game two.
[03:03:42] So if Liquid can keep doing this,
[03:03:43] then we do have a proper series of hands.
[03:03:45] It was like the inverse game one.
[03:03:47] We really criticized liquid for being split up on the map not bringing those numbers by any mean and this time around
[03:03:54] I feel like the same criticism needs to be kind of thrown towards falcons where they were really split admittedly
[03:03:59] It was because they had struggles in the leaning phase
[03:04:01] But they were just getting picked off. No one was really together. No a course getting done
[03:04:06] When you lose your lanes that badly, you're met to die that many times
[03:04:09] Like you all met to be reminded you are bad at your lanes like there's no
[03:04:13] You show yourself a good team will kill you, the liquid just showed they had that like for a month
[03:04:19] They have most competitive deaths. He's had at least in the last six months when I checked
[03:04:23] It might have had you know more it maybe seven months a month ago, but in the last six months
[03:04:26] He hasn't died this many times in it in the game. Yeah, you're gonna go back to the start of last year when they were having their rough patch
[03:04:32] Yeah, I didn't want to go about
[03:04:34] It's the worst this status like this might even be like some top three all-time like one in 13 like I was saying like
[03:04:40] They don't get old in their lanes like this, like nearly ever.
[03:04:43] Yeah.
[03:04:44] I mean, I think liquid honestly could be kind of a pub stop mode, but you look at the
[03:04:47] way they played the way they itemized.
[03:04:49] It was very much all-free.
[03:04:50] Like we said in draft, all their cores are kind of salvaged, and they went, yeah, we
[03:04:53] are selfish.
[03:04:54] And they all just bought super specific items.
[03:04:56] They threw kaya yashos on one team.
[03:04:58] I have never seen them before.
[03:05:00] Yeah.
[03:05:01] All three, they've won grieves on Lushrock, but he kind of bought that for himself, really.
[03:05:05] And then there's a blink on clockwork.
[03:05:07] Like there's some insanely selfish items.
[03:05:09] I don't want to say, you know what Falcons they like to play to split the map style,
[03:05:12] we're being them in lanes, and they're farming up, okay?
[03:05:14] We're all going to be so strong on our own, that we can sort of pinch with a main and
[03:05:16] just sort of one-to-one, then almost across the map.
[03:05:19] It's honestly a really weird style, but one that kind of cooked this game.
[03:05:22] Yeah, I mean, again, but the Ashakar and Ken's, like, having the reduced cost point, again,
[03:05:26] with getting it out of stopping the heroes, it's quite a novel item.
[03:05:30] You're not going to buy an every game, but with house snowballed, it was?
[03:05:33] Why not buy it? Why not play on this sweeping map play, and even with, we saw on the previous
[03:05:38] the scoreboard, right, aces items, clearly from game 1 to game 2, you can see there's
[03:05:42] a different shift, like how I'm all about versus I want to be the carry, right?
[03:05:46] Like there is a whole new razor going into game 2, so maybe Falcons assumed that it will
[03:05:50] just be the aura every time, so that alone is changing to kind of the scope on the
[03:05:54] kind of the razor narrative.
[03:05:55] Yeah, a lot of question marks and things you have to consider now for me, a big one is
[03:06:00] this jacquira right Falcons have it in their draw for game 1, and they get the winner
[03:06:04] for a lot of different moving parts,
[03:06:05] but for game number two,
[03:06:07] I want to say a big part as to why it went the way it did,
[03:06:10] was tofu on the gicara getting two solo kills for himself
[03:06:13] before it was at minute three, minute four.
[03:06:15] It's like, how insane is that?
[03:06:18] I mean, it's also just not that normal,
[03:06:19] because he had two blood grenades.
[03:06:20] I think it's one of the first kill
[03:06:21] and then a second in the second, there he killed.
[03:06:23] And I will also say that it's like,
[03:06:24] this is not normal at all,
[03:06:26] like it first was not normal,
[03:06:27] generally speaking, and second there,
[03:06:28] it's not normal against Falcons.
[03:06:30] So I will just say like, he cooked,
[03:06:32] I think the entire team that cooked,
[03:06:34] especially when it comes like the leaning and understanding really where it
[03:06:37] can strike like that was honestly so well played.
[03:06:39] I mean the thing with that lean though is like with Largo and Cret like he can
[03:06:43] dispel a jacquero but just feeling like the kids and the jacquero like if Cret uses
[03:06:47] his tongue incorrectly in that leaning phase you're going to get punished by the other
[03:06:49] hero right so you have to be super careful when you've got to also argue
[03:06:53] Falcons were playing on the limits right like starting without HP next to a
[03:06:56] jacquero you kind of asking today I think both of my and Cret kind of gifted themselves
[03:07:00] to tofu at some point, it wasn't as tofu did some amazing play or just too far away play.
[03:07:05] Can you do these limits, you know? Yeah, Falcons didn't. That's sure.
[03:07:09] What I will also add to that is like at this level, like getting a kill that you
[03:07:12] showed in, or having like 100 bonus networks, 100 bonus XP, it obliterates the game.
[03:07:17] Like the way that this game snowballed, it's just not normal. And it comes from
[03:07:20] swam mistakes that your opponents will capitalize on. Easy.
[03:07:23] I mean, it's not only just that they won the lane, right? It's that they were able
[03:07:26] to use that and actually keep the kills going much and earlier. But like, they're,
[03:07:29] They just massacred them across the map the entire early game.
[03:07:33] We were watching the game where they call it up all three tier ones are dead before 10 minutes.
[03:07:37] That is something that we're at 10 minutes.
[03:07:38] That's something that almost never happens.
[03:07:40] They were just chain killing them and combining their heroes in a really nice way.
[03:07:43] And I think this is when Liquid looks best, whenever their cores are combining.
[03:07:46] And their supports are getting lanes and they mix everything up and everyone is sort of interacting with everyone else.
[03:07:51] I think Liquid playing the super fast temple, keeping the enemies, I don't know if they're brain sort of scrambled like eggs.
[03:07:56] I think that is the Liquid that looks best.
[03:07:59] It's this type of gameplay.
[03:08:00] It's a refreshing because it's like one wrong T.P. from a clenching in the wrong air
[03:08:04] of the farm.
[03:08:05] Now he's overlapping with a primalness.
[03:08:06] If Mars doesn't T.P. to stop the fight and now he's there, then there's another window
[03:08:09] where you can't fight.
[03:08:10] It's like if you get this type of gameplay, it's some of the best gameplay you can ever
[03:08:14] see in Dota.
[03:08:15] But like Liquid's been missing it for so long that says, wow, they can't do it.
[03:08:19] They can still do it.
[03:08:20] Yeah.
[03:08:21] It's all like a reminder, right?
[03:08:22] And like Micka, he's movement on casuals.
[03:08:24] He said, I've never seen someone break the ankles of their opponent the way he did.
[03:08:28] He dodged so many miles, speeds, and the shield is what I was, I don't know.
[03:08:33] No, there's different.
[03:08:34] He cooked this game.
[03:08:35] You can tell he's played this match of like, yeah, he has the mask together.
[03:08:38] And what you saw also in the clip, I think, what happens when you're ahead, you want
[03:08:41] to like, five men move here, or like, over, you know, like, four men move here, three
[03:08:45] men move there, one in reality, they attack here with two, here with one, here with two,
[03:08:48] you TP there.
[03:08:49] Now, you don't have TP here.
[03:08:50] And it's like, I think it's what makes Liquid, like, sold them good at what they do.
[03:08:53] They don't overroll it.
[03:08:54] They understand, okay, we only need this amount of fear of fear, so we attack you there.
[03:08:58] And I think that's ultimately why Falcons have so many damn deaths in his game.
[03:09:01] I would also lean though that Liquid if they didn't crush the lanes as hard.
[03:09:05] Some of the moments they died felt like Falcons would have come back into the game.
[03:09:09] There was a couple deaths where it was like one guy by himself or this was kind of the
[03:09:13] of course when they're doing some little...
[03:09:14] Enko Broken.
[03:09:15] Enko Broken.
[03:09:16] But yeah, I think for Liquid, we can't hop them up in this game because of how beautiful it
[03:09:20] was.
[03:09:21] But you still need to be careful if you are Liquid.
[03:09:23] Like, your lanes, you had like what?
[03:09:25] best-ladening face you could ever ask for the best early game. And there still was moments
[03:09:30] when maybe Falcons hit his 5,000 gold on any other hero could have made you snowballed Falcons
[03:09:34] back into a position. Yeah, I mean if I'm liquid though, I'm much happier with this sort of style
[03:09:38] of thinking and vibe that I am the other like I would rather they go super turbo aggressive and
[03:09:43] they get a bunch of kills and they feed a little too compared to they win their lanes and they sit
[03:09:47] around and then just slowly lose, right? Like I think against Falcons, a slower game does not
[03:09:51] benefit them and so I think why agree they are some feeds that are like what tech we're doing
[03:09:55] I think it's better to have some silly deaths and to go full gun hole than to ride the line because I just don't think riding line suits them in this matchup just keep crushing the lanes
[03:10:04] Yeah, they were able to to get a little hero picks for themselves that you know, we still aren't game one didn't come to fruition in game two
[03:10:11] I spoke to Blifts and he talked about that you know, they've got their own little meta when it comes between liquid and Falcons, but we also also play as what that though
[03:10:19] It's our in this current medal
[03:10:21] I'm not sure if the meta is fully discovered or in place,
[03:10:28] like every team plays like unique heroes to themselves and then it's also a bit individual
[03:10:33] where some teams have like, shorter game time overall, somehow generally,
[03:10:37] like a bit longer, some stack, more or less, I don't know, I'm one BKBs.
[03:10:42] We've also tried lots of different styles, well like,
[03:10:45] I know for example, like, make a play more of a turret or a entero,
[03:10:49] or more of a milihirose and so we've tried different positions like initiating on one guy
[03:10:55] and like there's been a lot of trial and error and I think the longer we play together
[03:11:02] the more we like soothe over the edges so I don't know right now I would say we do well in the
[03:11:09] meta who's meta it is for the taking though we'll have to like still see. I think personally
[03:11:17] The middle right now is very good, but in sense that I think it's very white, middle.
[03:11:23] There's a lot of different play starts. I think different teams have different play starts.
[03:11:27] Also in terms of items, some items styles are more boring than others.
[03:11:34] You have mouse on one side, there's the play very horror and heavy five-man objects.
[03:11:40] Then you have some other teams, the play is very good.
[03:11:44] and both stars seems to work, so I think the meta is very open and I think our team,
[03:11:52] we are a little bit in the team, how we want to play, I don't think we have a specific playstyle,
[03:11:57] I think generally we want to play really fast, but even against playing really fast,
[03:12:01] I feel like we get pretty red at some times, it's not easy.
[03:12:05] Honestly, the meta is kind of like a bit of a scratcher because I think for our team,
[03:12:11] for our team. I think it's like we've been trying a lot of different stuff seeing what works.
[03:12:15] I think you heard from them more like we tried every strategy in the books, stuff we've won,
[03:12:19] with stuff we've lost with stuff we're other people are playing and like we're just trying to see
[03:12:24] what sticks. So I think it's a constant evolving game and I think right now the meta is
[03:12:28] definitely not failing to our best. Even though some of our best heroes are quite meta like Viper
[03:12:34] Razer, et cetera, but their kind is banned out. So we need more and not toolkit especially
[03:12:38] So with the recent nerf in Pengalier, it has made it a lot worse.
[03:12:43] So we're trying to figure it out, so.
[03:12:47] What an information, given away the T, I feel from both sides.
[03:12:51] Not sure where that team's fit in the current model.
[03:12:53] I mean, they're struggling with Pengalier,
[03:12:56] maybe you knew about it earlier, retired before I picked up one of those.
[03:12:59] That's actually why you retired, right?
[03:13:00] You knew the Pengalier, no first time.
[03:13:01] I was like, my heart was so glad.
[03:13:03] And I heard the news, the day the music died,
[03:13:06] ahead of the curve, that year old.
[03:13:08] Don't pick it. He's just absolutely unreal.
[03:13:11] That's a big oil.
[03:13:12] Yeah. But it did like a both of them kind of had suspicions about how they're fitting
[03:13:16] into the moment and even for Ace and Turf, we're talking about it's like a team likes to play
[03:13:21] fast, but even then there's moments when they're either getting rid of it or getting caught out of
[03:13:26] position. And so it isn't necessarily this clean aggressive place. That is what showed in game
[03:13:31] two, but it's still brought them success.
[03:13:33] Yeah, I mean, I think it also shows one and just look at the results of the group stage and how
[03:13:37] the teams have shaped up. I think they're sort of mentioning in the meta, but I think it's
[03:13:41] also true for the teams in the level of play right now. I think it's quite high, but I think it's
[03:13:44] also very even. I think that's what makes this series and also the rest of the tournament
[03:13:48] very exciting and I'm looking forward to it a lot because I think you genuinely can't tell who's
[03:13:51] going to win any series. And I think that is a cool tournament whenever you really don't know who's
[03:13:55] going to win. Yeah, for sure. I think also like just the fact that it's a B05 and you can like try
[03:13:59] something and then like, you know, do a small pivot because just picking the clockwork and game
[03:14:02] through as opposed to the task it had a huge difference like in this game and you can
[03:14:06] just tell that some games it also depends on like what are your enemies actually doing so
[03:14:09] sometimes a bit hard to figure out what is actually the best thing in the meta to play right now.
[03:14:13] I just go back for the off lanes. Game 1, Ace was left alone with a game 2
[03:14:17] a market like tofu reminding him his business won 13 so it's like both games the off lanes
[03:14:22] have struggled a lot so game 3 like which off lanes meant to struggle now because it's not been
[03:14:27] a series about the off lanes really. Yeah it's like where do you put that pressure how are we going
[03:14:31] to change out both teams in game 1, game 2, they stopped with those opening phase bands
[03:14:36] for themselves.
[03:14:37] That wasn't that change out at all.
[03:14:38] And potentially now looking towards a game 3 where we have an even series that could
[03:14:43] be those change up early up in the draft before we get to it, we're going to go to a quick break.
[03:17:01] The best of five continues between falcons and liquids and great changeups from a liquid
[03:17:30] in our second game draft is taking out the win range of the triant, the bristle back, everything
[03:17:36] that led up to Falcon's success in game number one.
[03:17:39] And so now, because the question, how does it change up on this time of Falcon's, apparently
[03:17:45] the team jumps out coming through just now, because they all believe that this is where
[03:17:50] the laser opener in the primal response is more than enough for them.
[03:17:55] I've done a good band, okay, there we go.
[03:17:59] Yeah, this is a very good change, and I think they will also probably consider taking
[03:18:07] their carry on 1617 instead of the Mars, which has not been and we also what happened last.
[03:18:12] Yeah, that was crazy.
[03:18:13] Yeah, that was not okay.
[03:18:14] You can't play like that.
[03:18:15] So I think that will probably be a consideration to make it.
[03:18:17] We take the win-ranger earlier on, right?
[03:18:19] It got banned last phase, get our own dawn at the game before, so maybe we take that
[03:18:22] second phase and have a win rangeer to clear what on earth lanes against this so I could
[03:18:27] see some deviations more.
[03:18:28] Yeah, Falcons assessment of that game too was just don't lose lanes.
[03:18:32] You know if we want to be able to have some stability and this is now why we're in this
[03:18:36] kind of semi-repeat position and now it's one liquid again to show that adjustment kind
[03:18:41] of light the clock again.
[03:18:42] It's a classic counter to the primal, but we'll see when they want to go with the dross
[03:18:47] I don't know, of course, the task is available.
[03:18:52] Yeah, I mean, it's honestly crazy.
[03:18:53] This Jekir hero continues to be as broken as it is.
[03:18:58] Over this, like, if he's getting nerfed,
[03:19:00] I think it looks like, yeah, I just don't care.
[03:19:01] We're still gonna pick the dragon, because the lane is just too strong.
[03:19:04] He just hits you in the head and you just can't do anything.
[03:19:09] Not heroes, just the Gigalainer.
[03:19:10] And it's also kind of what Falcons just want out of all the heroes, right?
[03:19:13] Solid laner, good follow up damage.
[03:19:15] He kind of does it all.
[03:19:16] So if you're liquid,
[03:19:17] If you go with the clock again, just go against the panel.
[03:19:19] You're probably going to look for a TOEFL here,
[03:19:21] I would assume.
[03:19:22] Maybe just some range guide that gives you some damage.
[03:19:24] Overall for the draft.
[03:19:26] Did they go back to the feeling?
[03:19:27] So it was like the Phoenix pick-up and game one,
[03:19:30] more so because of what it already been picked up from.
[03:19:32] Yeah, I think it had more purpose in the first game.
[03:19:34] Yeah.
[03:19:35] That's like like a tree end.
[03:19:36] You're big counter to him.
[03:19:37] Bristol can go both ways.
[03:19:38] So here, I was just assuming it's different here.
[03:19:41] I mean, it could be a bottom for a lot of money.
[03:19:43] It's a marana.
[03:19:44] It's a marana, the wall look.
[03:19:45] I probably don't want to lean to what's why I'm going to spit too open. He has played it, but it's already bad. I can stick here.
[03:19:51] Yeah exactly.
[03:19:52] Not particularly good against primary either.
[03:19:54] Just Bruno, Bruno will look.
[03:20:00] Okay, so I suppose they're just so uncertain of what the support pick is.
[03:20:03] We're suggesting a lot of options.
[03:20:05] It looks super good.
[03:20:06] And they're thinking the same thing, right?
[03:20:07] So they just go ahead and pick the court here.
[03:20:09] And they get their extra corn, 18.
[03:20:10] Because oftentimes the support bands at the end are kind of tricky.
[03:20:13] So people have experimented with this somewhere.
[03:20:14] You just pick core into core.
[03:20:16] It's not bad, and I can see why I do it here.
[03:20:18] Right, they already see the lane.
[03:20:19] It's really going to get super counterpicked on these slots.
[03:20:22] I'm somewhat powerful.
[03:20:24] I mean, I like it a lot because you saw it in game one.
[03:20:26] Two Falcons don't, they don't flex this primal.
[03:20:29] Nisha had like a giga show in game one already.
[03:20:30] Now you have a clock who can help them out as well.
[03:20:32] It will give you another super good support.
[03:20:34] Pixel, you can just play this two supports with Nisha on mid.
[03:20:37] We have a good time.
[03:20:38] So I really like this.
[03:20:40] Is there a spot inside of Falcons that could rotate and help Marine earlier on?
[03:20:44] You already got a pretty good one in Jekiro, so these ruined fights are not going to be as cut and dry as they were before.
[03:20:49] Yeah.
[03:20:50] Blockwork is, I mean, he is very good against primal beasts, but it's not like a super strong fighting hero when you run into a Jekiro, it's fitting on you, potential seconds.
[03:20:57] So I'd say they won't be quite as black and white, but still, if the middling goes, like it did last time, they played this lane, then I think liquid still getting runes.
[03:21:04] I kind of want to just, I'm going to say tiny air was going to hate it, but like all position tiny, not mid of course.
[03:21:10] But like a hero like that for create just to explore the map,
[03:21:14] contest the runes, check here in the five position, then you run through.
[03:21:17] Intimate, I just want to make sure like whatever correct place goes with the hero and goes, we go to mid and we like him.
[03:21:23] We're not allowing liquid just to have the strongest supports.
[03:21:26] Interesting.
[03:21:28] A rare pick-up.
[03:21:31] That is a rare one.
[03:21:32] So, spooky pick, right? Of course, into Stomps Ripley, I blinked out, and you're always going to get that jump onto him, layering up for other people to do the damage.
[03:21:39] Then, to clockwork, one rocket flare, to check the tree line into a hook shot, raising, always going to throwing out spells,
[03:21:45] again, vision and just going to annoy a lion as well, naturally running up and just existing.
[03:21:50] It can be a little wet, but yeah, Falcons. Lanes shouldn't be disastrous this time around, so there will be a moment for lion to shine at stopping Nisha.
[03:21:59] I think Falcons also have decided they're going to adjust the sort of theme in their draft.
[03:22:04] Last game was very team 5, very blocky, we stand together, and they kind of got picked
[03:22:08] apart.
[03:22:09] I think they're taking the lesson away from that game being that we want more side
[03:22:12] and they pick up, we want more some very much more heroes that are strong early, we can
[03:22:15] take these fights too liquid and we can fight back and not just try to dodge our game.
[03:22:18] I like that adjustment, I think it makes a lot of sense thematically, and these are cool
[03:22:23] picks and they're making smart changes.
[03:22:25] It protects whatever a model looks a lot as thick as well.
[03:22:27] full position line with the double stuns, but you can go for any off-laner and lines
[03:22:31] in the game, you know what, my job is just to make sure you found, like a mob who
[03:22:34] have networked in this landing phase.
[03:22:35] I will say also that I really like when Falk has played Weaver overall, like Weaver
[03:22:39] Jekiro is a crazy good lane.
[03:22:42] Liquid as well, like at least with the Storm pick, I like it a lot not just because it's
[03:22:45] against the primal, but I feel like they were ready for like one of these range carriers
[03:22:48] to come out, I think Weaver Storm can definitely not be that nice for Weaver overall, so
[03:22:52] there's also some like some itemization that Nisha can think about later down the line.
[03:22:57] This is where you go back for like the spends in the kind of explosive errors in the
[03:23:00] carero. Just to go, if he stunned, he's going to die like the big explosive damage, of course,
[03:23:05] monkey games with desks and other kinds of benefits. Instead, they want to try and match the kind of
[03:23:11] the pacing of the fights win-ranger. We've been going in and out, same thing for win-ranger.
[03:23:15] These are, these are, it's very funny, the style the liquid has committed to in the series, it feels.
[03:23:21] They're just, we do not care at all about the fight. We cannot get a poof. They're just picking up all
[03:23:26] course because they feel like those cores are good for the game. They're going to
[03:23:28] buy selfish items. They're not really any oras. They're just like, we're going to do
[03:23:32] our thing. And we'll win. I think it's very interesting to take that sort of very
[03:23:37] pub style. I mean, they all have superstars and different roles. And it's like, well,
[03:23:42] you get to do what you want to do that has made you shine so far and competitive.
[03:23:45] Yeah. It is, it is such an interesting approach to just sort of fully forego the
[03:23:52] draft integrity in the sense that they don't have the typical things you would want.
[03:23:55] they don't have a melee initiator in a core role, they don't have to teamfight, they don't have the
[03:23:59] horrors, right? These are things you want to check these boxes and they're like ask screw boxes,
[03:24:03] we're trying them out. Flanes go well enough, then we'll do our job, that's pretty much it.
[03:24:08] I mean, I like it a lot because Mika has looked really good, especially on his standout
[03:24:13] heroes, like his wind ranger, his cares in the last game as well, and I will say this is a good
[03:24:17] wind ranger game, and as well, I think some of you can defy draft logic at least a little bit,
[03:24:22] As long as you have good lanes and then you can like help each other like maybe you lack on some draft here
[03:24:27] But you have one one came more gold here or when wind range of goals to the gate
[03:24:30] You can like fix Razor slain even if he gets comicic and you can like kind of make up for some of the weaknesses
[03:24:35] I will say that what liquid half right now looks very scary if you're falcons
[03:24:41] I do think though this weaver like you mentioned before that it's good for falcons and I agree
[03:24:44] I think skaters one of the best weavers and I think it does prevent some of that liquid aggression and that now you can't really kill this safe
[03:24:51] We find very easily, we saw them feed off this clings.
[03:24:54] Weaver, it's just not the same thing.
[03:24:56] If he's playing smart and with his eyes open,
[03:24:58] we can't really die to these heroes,
[03:25:00] especially once they get a little sick.
[03:25:01] So it reduces a lane that liquid can't gank,
[03:25:04] which means it'll be more focused in a smaller area.
[03:25:06] And it can actually respond better to some of these fights.
[03:25:09] If you found them still have access to,
[03:25:10] like, tie it onto the blob,
[03:25:13] I'll get to the other one that could go for it.
[03:25:14] But, any here, that just pops himself in the middle.
[03:25:16] When you want a weaver in your team,
[03:25:17] you kind of want to hit him to,
[03:25:19] you want a little bit of information.
[03:25:20] we've just running it by himself and then getting full combo right you need someone else so
[03:25:24] there's a lot of the blocks available for multi to do his thing why haven't
[03:25:29] and tusk removed from tofu well this could also be a four-windager and they're picking a new
[03:25:34] poor
[03:25:35] hmm
[03:25:37] it doesn't believe that but it is possible
[03:25:39] because it is like the classic four-response chair maybe it's it's a five-clock work
[03:25:44] just possibility it is definitely possible I mean that's so full play much
[03:25:49] I always liked the Andrew Chenlein.
[03:25:52] Four competitive games, 7-5-7-8,
[03:25:54] and I think he started playing it.
[03:25:56] Because he joined with...
[03:25:57] I think he joined with Paul Leibosato.
[03:26:00] Wow.
[03:26:01] That's the rare pick.
[03:26:02] That's...
[03:26:03] I mean, integer care.
[03:26:05] I still... I still... I still... I'm happy.
[03:26:07] That's kind of hope.
[03:26:08] I might be presentively respecting...
[03:26:12] on the Lord.
[03:26:12] For the fact I can speak, then you have five stone in pair.
[03:26:14] So it could be a double barrel, a little ruby, but...
[03:26:18] Sure, it's a Rubik, we never see it, but high Rubik Razer in the end, I guess, is many Rubik Wind Ranger and you do Clark Razer.
[03:26:27] Yeah, I can, the, every time we don't see Rubik, his landing is quite weak.
[03:26:31] That often in the mid game, you're too far behind that getting the ice bath still, getting anything else doesn't really matter,
[03:26:36] because you're positioning just kind of explode, but the way that Liquid's playing so aggressively, getting the early towers, the sweeping map player, so you're kind of potentially enabling Rubik in that way,
[03:26:46] that way, but maybe we're just comfortable.
[03:26:49] I know you guys hate comfortable.
[03:26:51] Quint Hatesculture.
[03:26:52] Maybe like some blade male teamfight hero,
[03:26:55] unless it's just five or something.
[03:26:56] Ooh, that's T5 hero.
[03:26:59] It's a very good bermaster again.
[03:27:00] Yeah.
[03:27:02] No doubt about that.
[03:27:03] It's not a more sticky, but he can definitely play it.
[03:27:06] And it's very funny.
[03:27:09] I feel like a broken record.
[03:27:10] I think liquid they showed that they had the capability
[03:27:13] to snowball that, but they got a snowball.
[03:27:15] Yeah, they do.
[03:27:16] They got a snowball for sure and if they're not then they're gonna have some problems
[03:27:19] but they can also make Falcons look like school kids.
[03:27:22] If we look at last game so for me I'm just excited to watch because I think Falcons
[03:27:27] draft is better but look at a pretty wrong last game.
[03:27:29] I just love the fact that I look at off the game ones.
[03:27:32] They didn't shy away from their identity and it's like like quince mentioning is the
[03:27:36] risk the reward like if they get to get this draft off the ground and into place like
[03:27:40] it's going to be beautiful to watch like Rubik in here we don't really see often maybe
[03:27:44] from like the occasional Chinese team or maybe from save and Eastern Europe, but it's like
[03:27:48] we don't see the hero at all. And it's game, there's so many good spells to still. We've
[03:27:52] right, so Kuchi, the entire time running front of them up, getting the good rewards,
[03:27:55] positioning, to then utilize it to still ice-puff, like Rubik can shine. Or can be
[03:27:59] away, we don't see again for another six months, right? But, I the I, I regret it, it's
[03:28:04] just the early game liquid. Falking is pretty happy if they don't get digger something
[03:28:08] in any phase. Yeah, and I like the bruma, so pick a lot. I think there's also
[03:28:11] So, if Nisha can do what he did game one, and then he just has a more clean mid game, I do think there's a very high chance that Storm can pop off in this game.
[03:28:27] He definitely can.
[03:28:28] Nisha, of all the Storm players is very capable of doing it.
[03:28:31] Tofu is also, I think, one of the best Ruby players.
[03:28:33] He doesn't get to play it that much, because the hero just can't lane.
[03:28:36] He's dead.
[03:28:37] Yeah.
[03:28:38] this game so he's in the safe lane potentially. So maybe he'll have a little bit better
[03:28:42] of the lane and we can actually see a total of Rubik because it is Giga. Is a Rubik win
[03:28:47] Ringer lane one that Rubik can thrive in? You feel like this is going to be stable enough
[03:28:52] that it isn't going to be taken advantage of by a brood align. You should be solid.
[03:28:56] Are you just two ranged dudes clapping away? If he's set out of a position, they should be fine.
[03:29:01] Alright, that wasn't super confident, but I'm going to take away the grain of salt. The
[03:29:05] Kesu is just skeptical because he's not sure exactly what sort of liquid is going to show up right now
[03:29:10] They did have a strong stock in game one and even a better game number two is the output trajectory
[03:29:16] Continuing here or as Falcon's gonna have a gameplay win for themselves. Well, either way. Let's get on into it
[03:29:35] the
[03:29:38] game three time lives a gentleman here between liquid and
[03:29:41] falcons and folks we get out some fun we get a
[03:29:44] group of hell yeah coming out here from
[03:29:46] liquid
[03:29:47] a hero that's a lot of teams down play
[03:29:49] with at the moment
[03:29:51] uh...
[03:29:52] did you believe it can you see why liquid said this
[03:29:56] game
[03:29:56] let's try it out as the last
[03:29:59] see there's a problem here on you're asking a
[03:30:00] rubic player if you believe in real
[03:30:02] Obviously, I'm going to say, yeah, because I love the hero,
[03:30:04] but the body is coming in immediately.
[03:30:06] Yes, he's got good spots to steal some pretty amazing ones.
[03:30:09] If he's able to get this, but it's just sometimes
[03:30:11] is the problem of you'd never really get these steals.
[03:30:14] You're playing to try to find spots to steal also.
[03:30:16] And then you just lack something in your draft.
[03:30:19] You know, like a hero that actually brings these extra abilities
[03:30:21] a big team fight that can maybe come in from their five.
[03:30:23] So let's see.
[03:30:24] I'm excited to see it.
[03:30:25] I don't know if it'll work, but let's see.
[03:30:28] Get it?
[03:30:29] It's going to be able to get out, but I should shoot you.
[03:30:31] I would also say, like, if you told me today that I would see a Rubik, a brewmaster
[03:30:36] and a lion in this series, I would not have believed you.
[03:30:39] Maybe the lion, but the Rubik and brew, I would not have expected these teams to play.
[03:30:42] Maybe ace playing the brew, but a mar playing the brew, pretty interesting.
[03:30:45] I know he's been working on this one, so I'm curious to see what's going to go down.
[03:30:49] And we have to talk about two is, this is the first pick primal.
[03:30:52] There's a clockwork again.
[03:30:53] We saw what box he was going to, it was able to do to shut down about rein with Nisha, could
[03:30:57] look to see similar.
[03:30:58] But I do think Falcons also, since they picked themselves into this
[03:31:02] primal beast matchup in the mid, they've made their sidelines stronger than the last
[03:31:06] time. Because I think last time they recognized, we kind of put ourselves in a
[03:31:09] three lane losing position. So this time, let's see what difference we get.
[03:31:18] Some see what the smoke doesn't look like. The team's going to be able to get a catch.
[03:31:23] Look at port to see how these land matchups go down and be.
[03:31:26] after what we had go down and both of the games so far today I was a game wanted
[03:31:31] you know, Falcons very much. It didn't have to start the easiest time across the
[03:31:35] lane but that came together it really did and then that came to liquid just straight
[03:31:39] off the the beginning of the lane's just complete domination.
[03:31:42] Let's see what similarities we get right because I would say liquid they've got some strong
[03:31:47] lanes in particular. I would say Falcons though has very strong lanes also in comparison to
[03:31:51] both of them match. I'm curious about the mid game because liquid literally has like,
[03:31:55] And it's like almost no teamfight I would say.
[03:31:58] So it's gonna be interesting playing versus a brutal, the primal beast, that you cure,
[03:32:01] or heavy teamfight, depending on how these lanes go.
[03:32:11] Shit's off.
[03:32:13] Just out of range of the players, we're feeling they're screwed up.
[03:32:17] But yeah, how much pressure can they put onto the safe lane, weaver?
[03:32:21] With this rubic range of duo, it's gonna, of course,
[03:32:23] up with the indecent amount of burst rock between the two of them and have to be careful with
[03:32:27] those huge cheese. You do sort of get caught out and the point comes in the catalytic
[03:32:31] decent's early bottom. It's got a burst blow for mekai though. Good catch from Bob Seat. I'm
[03:32:36] able to trap Crit in the cobs and allow mekai to get that first blow just to carry.
[03:32:41] Very strong lane that they do have down here for liquid. This will range or plus the clock.
[03:32:46] I think you're trying to block the campar apps on Crit and just got caught on the side in the cobs.
[03:32:49] I have to be very careful down here.
[03:32:57] It sounds pretty difficult for them on that bottom side.
[03:33:01] We'll see on the mid and the Nisha County do quite well.
[03:33:04] He's able to do that first game here with the storm, the primal.
[03:33:08] That one is a standout, I feel like for the lead.
[03:33:10] That was literally like 4CS on the primal.
[03:33:12] Yeah, that's a standout story.
[03:33:14] You imagine something.
[03:33:16] That's not a few games in, you know, I think in a marine you can be warmed up to the point where
[03:33:20] sure you might beat him in the matchup because of the strength of the storm, but surely it's not going to be as brutal as game one.
[03:33:25] Top lane, top phase in trouble, skater on a snaking, we'll be able to finish him off.
[03:33:30] And as you get some good damage on towards Ace as well, shouldn't quite be able to kill him.
[03:33:35] By at least I'm going to push him back, except to land up the skater to have a continue to farm quite nicely up at.
[03:33:41] This is one of the big worries of Rubik usually is the landing phase in terms of why you're able to contribute.
[03:33:46] So although you have a razor which is a very strong laner
[03:33:49] See how much they can do because of that ruby because weaver jikiro
[03:33:53] Super strong
[03:33:55] Tons of damage tons of double hitting, especially once they start getting the bugs that come out from the weaver
[03:34:00] Not no easy to get them off you
[03:34:02] You don't know, so the jikiro breathing down your neck as well
[03:34:05] You have to attack speak slow on top of everything is very annoying to play against and you don't have a it's front liner right like usually
[03:34:11] You want to have that melee with a razor rubic just yeah
[03:34:14] It'd be a bit fragile in terms of being able to stand in the front.
[03:34:23] Be sure.
[03:34:25] We're definitely seeing a marine.
[03:34:27] Having a much better time in the same much of this time round.
[03:34:31] They're still not winning the lane, but he's getting something out of this.
[03:34:36] Bottom, getting a bit aggressive on the side of Falcons versus Barxian Mickay.
[03:34:40] If crit always is, if crit's able to find opportunities for stun and hex, they can't always crush here.
[03:34:44] That's the power of line. It's a volatile hero in terms of landing face similar to Rubik, in a way, but double disables can always just catch people off guard if you're not careful.
[03:34:54] And the midgame will have to see the results of the line too, right?
[03:34:57] The crit.
[03:34:59] Okay. Get him pulling the cops.
[03:35:02] Pressure off the mod.
[03:35:03] See if that matters if the mic is yet crit's time to get the style.
[03:35:07] All right, they still get the job done.
[03:35:08] Gonna mark it, Borksy, in return.
[03:35:11] Or actually, so it calls in issues.
[03:35:13] And basically, I mean, I'm not going to get that final hit in.
[03:35:16] So, he's fine.
[03:35:17] They could get that.
[03:35:18] I said another kill between the two of them in the safe lane.
[03:35:22] Great, Cogs.
[03:35:23] I think the second cognitive hit, perhaps they can get the kill.
[03:35:26] Borksy will see a side Mickey, it's not healthy.
[03:35:28] He's going to need a shot.
[03:35:29] And so, hopeful.
[03:35:30] But, yeah, a snaking was able to sort of start the battle
[03:35:32] between the support, skidder swings across.
[03:35:34] They don't need just kill him, but they also kill them off when he was trying to TP out.
[03:35:38] So tofu, he's going to be out out of the lane for a favor at a time now.
[03:35:41] It's going to have to be in the air.
[03:35:42] The lane position is not the best either for AS.
[03:35:45] He can't really step up too great versus these two.
[03:35:48] No boots on to me.
[03:35:50] There's not to be very careful.
[03:35:51] Malreen is starting to, as you said, he's doing infinitely better than the matchup.
[03:35:54] And he's starting to do his Malreen thing.
[03:35:55] He's got the boots.
[03:35:56] He's going to drag into a neutral camp.
[03:35:58] He's going to trample it with the neutral.
[03:35:59] Let's see if boxy wants to follow him.
[03:36:02] I'm ready seeing boxy was pinging it out.
[03:36:04] I'm going to get the set up on to crit, I'm going to turn up with the hex on to Nick
[03:36:18] A, power shots coming in, don't quite enough to kill them off, he wants to dive in for
[03:36:22] the kill, make him be able to stop the south on crit and get the extra couple of hits
[03:36:26] to find the kill, he'll get out perfectly fine, so you know making sure the south's
[03:36:30] the way he did, still getting the kills, three kills already have him
[03:36:34] to count the same play and win range, having a very hot stop.
[03:36:38] Beautiful shackle. Oh, actually, and it's same latch.
[03:36:40] I did nothing foul. I was going to connect on to him there. He is
[03:36:42] suffering a bit in terms of last hits, but it's good that he's got
[03:36:44] all these CS. They're 23 last hits on him, but he's got those three
[03:36:47] kills that pumps him back up toward that top similar to the
[03:36:50] lever.
[03:36:50] Top left side steps up, gets caught in the center pair of
[03:36:54] snake. I mean, that's going to be toe food very likely dead once more
[03:36:58] in this lane, they'll look towards ace.
[03:37:01] He's all ready to go here for the Snake King.
[03:37:03] Ace has got a level one, charge is.
[03:37:06] We'll be enough to keep him safe,
[03:37:07] turns with the plasma field, but still
[03:37:09] is going to have to set under the tower,
[03:37:11] super on the HP.
[03:37:13] And yeah, very much seeing as you say,
[03:37:15] the struggles with the rubric in the landing stage here,
[03:37:17] three deaths back to back on top for in the stop lane.
[03:37:20] It worries for the reason, right?
[03:37:21] Because the rubric's doing poorly, the reason
[03:37:23] is also having a big struggle.
[03:37:25] And last time Ace, he had a very good lane.
[03:37:27] he was actually oppressive, he was putting pressure on to the carry, so it's going to be
[03:37:30] much different tail when Skeeter's going to have freedom.
[03:37:33] To perhaps even make moves too, you know, they did talk about the old Falcon's moves, where
[03:37:37] they used to go through the portal and pressure the safe lane.
[03:37:39] This could be one of those games because the off lane is just broken on liquid already.
[03:37:43] Seeing total actually making the first move, he's looking to break the lane.
[03:37:47] I think the shackle, but was quite enough of a duration there for folks to get him with
[03:37:53] the follow up.
[03:37:55] to go for a mar. I think create a couple times we'll die because he puts himself in an awkward position,
[03:37:59] but go for a mar. If Chris there, he's always got this stun to just stop any of that aggression.
[03:38:06] Okay, let's see. Tofu, as I said, he's making the move bottom Ace is going to be very behind now. So
[03:38:11] a razor with a top start. You should can have some big problems in the game. So we'll see if the other
[03:38:17] little leans can make up for that if they can get a kill. Kill on his bruise,
[03:38:20] hard though.
[03:38:27] Mark, you know, she's going to be perfectly safe and a crit's going to have
[03:38:30] inferred boxy trunks and maybe get that potential wrap around. So, Mark's
[03:38:33] going to stay safe underneath the tower. They want to contest with this. It's,
[03:38:39] I mean, can't tofu get over in time. It's going to reflating. I don't know if
[03:38:45] they can do this liquid.
[03:38:46] I mean, can they actually stop fountains from taking this one?
[03:38:49] I don't think so.
[03:38:50] They're holding back, they know that they can't get both of them.
[03:38:52] So fountains will be able to take both because of this.
[03:38:55] And yeah, it's too scary.
[03:38:56] I think this midward, maybe saw Malry rotating too, that little cliff sneaky one, that we
[03:39:00] see placed from tofu.
[03:39:01] I think it saw him just on the side there, so I think immediately they're like, yeah, we
[03:39:05] can't do this.
[03:39:06] I'm sorry.
[03:39:07] That's that up onto the ice.
[03:39:12] They're ready for the dive.
[03:39:13] If he's gonna immediately go for the TPL, oh my god away just in time, still doesn't feel great though, getting bullied out of the lane, pressure down to the tier 1 tower top.
[03:39:22] I mean, what does sort of liquid do about this?
[03:39:24] They're going to bring in enough plus one-tail face out.
[03:39:27] Do you just let this tier 1 go and just sort of hope for the best we've ace just left on his own up there?
[03:39:31] You're only gonna do it at the storm once they move. They're going to go for a bottom.
[03:39:35] Set up here, and they'll make sure they get this kill, bringing in the back of a niche.
[03:39:39] And ensuring that a bar has no chance to run.
[03:39:42] things are going great for liquid on the top side. They are making sure that they're able to effectively
[03:39:47] cause issues as much as from our Mars, ACEs having a long time.
[03:39:52] Yeah.
[03:39:52] Mount Renewal gets every day, though.
[03:39:55] Then he should be justified. So liquid, I think the only way they can make moves is honestly
[03:40:00] run is sure right now because the two supports are super low level. They don't provide good
[03:40:04] damage. You need that damage here. And at the moment, it really is only the storm.
[03:40:08] storm. This double wisdom really is going to, but honestly make a big, big impact in
[03:40:15] these next upcoming minutes. It's about five on the line and these supports just, yeah,
[03:40:19] going to be struggling a lot now on Liquid. So be it, make moves to help out the
[03:40:22] Razor. So for Ace, I guess it's just jungle time. See what he can do to recover, but yeah.
[03:40:26] And it'll be a total of cover for him. And I saw the tough thing for Liquid, right? We
[03:40:32] kind of had this play out in game one where he should did up this good stars to storm. But
[03:40:37] it wasn't enough really to sort of set up the mid game.
[03:40:41] This time it looks definitely a bit more hopeful
[03:40:44] just because the fact that the mid-key on this,
[03:40:45] we're Ranger, having a very nice safe lane.
[03:40:48] He's gonna very likely turn up and also be quite impactful
[03:40:51] quite early, but it's definitely gonna be enough
[03:40:53] of what these situations were,
[03:40:55] they're just not gonna have a front line
[03:40:56] if a quite a long time in these fights.
[03:40:58] No front line and no teamfight on.
[03:40:59] I have some big worries for liquid, I gotta be honest.
[03:41:01] Unless they start getting good fights,
[03:41:03] something to get them together in the next five minutes or so,
[03:41:05] I just see primal, the jikiro, lion finger, brood, it's just much easier, and it feels like
[03:41:11] for Faulkens to be able to do much of anything in these next few moments.
[03:41:14] So for Liquid, if they can't find any kills to recover, things can be massive like
[03:41:17] a mess.
[03:41:18] This would be horrible for Liquid if this happens.
[03:41:21] And it's happening, nothing to be done about this, nobody's heading over to stop Faulkens
[03:41:25] getting away with this one, taking these attacks away from Liquid.
[03:41:32] and Tup was gonna walk in and be like, oh no.
[03:41:36] An ace is locked.
[03:41:37] Ace?
[03:41:38] They could just turn over the water.
[03:41:39] They're not even, did they take the stacks?
[03:41:41] They're gonna be able to take his life?
[03:41:43] They lay down the macro-pired, that's ace gone.
[03:41:46] Tup was also gonna step back.
[03:41:48] He's lucky the marring doesn't have the pole
[03:41:50] where I still am caught out
[03:41:51] for a few seconds off, who's clearing the ancients.
[03:41:53] Okay, make it getting involved.
[03:41:55] Maybe Phil Nikki has to get involved too,
[03:41:56] because overall going bottom,
[03:41:58] now versus the primal split can be dangerous for the win-ranger.
[03:42:00] And a lot of control, that has been lost, look good.
[03:42:05] This top lane in particular, incredibly fragile.
[03:42:07] Falcons off to good timing.
[03:42:08] Even though the two cores we set for look good are doing good.
[03:42:10] The support is struggling and that off-laner.
[03:42:15] That knee shirt, the knees will fail to take away
[03:42:17] the couple of bouncy rooms that were sitting on foul
[03:42:19] inside of the map.
[03:42:20] So that's nice.
[03:42:24] A little bit of gold to swing back that way.
[03:42:25] Overall, the gold of course very close.
[03:42:27] Four to four right now, less than the one
[03:42:29] Okay, go a difference between the teams.
[03:42:32] Just see if that, you know, lack a team fight
[03:42:34] in terms of, yeah, just any team fight through the occur,
[03:42:38] or if it's liquid, it's just gonna play completely split up
[03:42:40] and try to get what they can out of the map
[03:42:41] and avoid those fights.
[03:42:43] Looking to pressure mid around catapults.
[03:42:50] Cops are down.
[03:42:53] Down to the walls of the map.
[03:42:54] See if they can maybe poke us flat out
[03:42:56] then keep on his full power in and crit by his side.
[03:43:00] Like that boxy, recognize the disgame that they're not snowballing out of control in
[03:43:04] lanes.
[03:43:05] This is the game where he goes through points and cogs can't be very annoying.
[03:43:08] Other game we have max battery socks of how much they're just snowballing for damage.
[03:43:13] So for falcons, like for them, it looks like the game will probably be way for mal-rein
[03:43:21] blank and then take all the fights but they can't fight around those, those are our
[03:43:25] The ultimate is we're mentioning, Snake.
[03:43:28] I'm not supposed to do this for now.
[03:43:29] The tree line, the only sort of cool wind
[03:43:31] of it been in the area when it was too late.
[03:43:34] I thought Boxy Adam, it's close.
[03:43:38] But Fu has gone time to hit six.
[03:43:40] So it does have that spell steel available.
[03:43:42] Clockwork and not quite there.
[03:43:44] Liquid, definitely wanting Boxy six
[03:43:46] to be able to stop that primal grab.
[03:43:49] I'm on this power and as well, Liquid.
[03:43:52] See, Cold Steve.
[03:43:53] I'm gonna be the shield, bro.
[03:43:55] I need you just gonna be out of jump and pick it up.
[03:43:57] The protection.
[03:43:58] Obviously, they're just a cog, right?
[03:44:00] If they can't walk through it, and now a stun gets stolen.
[03:44:02] So, a tofu has a very good spell.
[03:44:03] Probably one of the better ones, so find for some time.
[03:44:10] Good.
[03:44:11] Getting to sit back, recover those lanes.
[03:44:13] We see the razor back up to now 4K in that one,
[03:44:15] since he's been able to restabilize.
[03:44:21] And my ring's blank.
[03:44:23] see what they were supposed to throw us on the side of Falcons with that he's
[03:44:26] better have it yeah and that's the I feel like overall you can't sort of
[03:44:32] understate like how much Maureen's probably going to be able to do on this
[03:44:35] primal right we saw in all of the game so far even in that game too where they were
[03:44:40] behind he was still doing a lot so when he has a rough start he's able to
[03:44:46] kind of keep the game going if he has a fine start as he has here you know
[03:44:50] pretty much getting as much of an easy and he's just slightly ahead on the
[03:44:52] at worth.
[03:44:53] You know that he's going to be bringing the moves, bring in the plays.
[03:44:56] And they can start getting pretty messy for liquid.
[03:44:59] And he's to set up a talk.
[03:45:01] They get the first.
[03:45:02] It's going to be enough to bring a stab.
[03:45:04] Now, Murray, he can really start getting the show going now.
[03:45:07] It's much easier for a thought to do that from the liquid.
[03:45:10] It's trying for more here.
[03:45:12] A shackle of they got enough, walked down the stone, and spun into the forest.
[03:45:16] It's enough.
[03:45:17] They've written down them off before he's able to get the split off.
[03:45:19] Once you blend them dying and return those, they can go back up so liquid they can't
[03:45:23] actually push for a second kill from this.
[03:45:25] Cricket has done on for more to throw into the hex.
[03:45:28] Falcons, they'll clean up another and now let's chase our niche and he's just
[03:45:31] still having enough mana to get just for on it for way.
[03:45:33] He's just going to try and ace on.
[03:45:35] But what the other guy underneath the tier 2's.
[03:45:38] And here's indeed looking for the rough round potential.
[03:45:40] Does have pulverized back and ready under the tier 2 seems to be a dive too far.
[03:45:45] Unless you swing back over to what's the mid.
[03:45:46] Maybe see if they can go on towards Ace, knowing that he's alone and there's the opening
[03:45:50] towering into the trees, finds Ace, a Mars coming with an extra bit of damage, that is all
[03:45:56] after Bob of the shackle that got the split, and they've got Skeeda comes in, Ace dead again,
[03:46:01] and now they've got the ice pop on an easy set, crits from the floor and stunned,
[03:46:04] they've got the lock down, they've taken the shot as well. The fights are starting to get
[03:46:09] brought to liquid air by falcons, and as you'll worry about, it's starting to get very messy
[03:46:15] see from Liquid, you know, Falcons, they tied up, they're ready to play, though, bring
[03:46:19] this action and it's looking a lot more solid from there, started to think, so I'm
[03:46:24] trying to lead him to the Shaquat Shiba.
[03:46:25] In a Nike, can't get anything here.
[03:46:29] Falcons run the retreat, to considering chasing on, but it's too dangerous.
[03:46:33] These fights, you know, Liquid, they've got to bring their A game because they can start
[03:46:37] to go really down here when it comes to the Brawling against Falcons this match.
[03:46:41] Yeah, it's either you bring your egg in or you, you, you know, you stack the losses, you know, it's okay if A's is just gonna die all
[03:46:46] Can't bring more heroes in him rich kills and this one it's the savior body of it. Top will get to another good steal
[03:46:50] Again, this is probably the second best or maybe the first best dog is the other the impact that you can do with it in terms of all this team fight
[03:46:56] It's just a bit too much
[03:46:58] So Miss Primal splits down. They don't have the damage to go through it. They don't have that front line to rally around either and the moment needs just caught by one stun
[03:47:05] Is that they don't have that protection form
[03:47:07] form. What's on cooldown? We'll take the arm looking for the primal.
[03:47:13] Amar.
[03:47:15] If he is, he got up.
[03:47:17] It's a cool enough. We're putting the 3 of them.
[03:47:21] Make it as coming in. They'll have the damage.
[03:47:23] Amar caught out. I mean, they have to make moves every time they sort of see these
[03:47:27] here as alone. Right. This is liquid strength right now.
[03:47:30] Go on for these.
[03:47:31] Please pick off. We've got a lot of damage. We're making it. But indeed, Ace is so far.
[03:47:35] I think he's going down again, and his steering is snaking around in the ice-pop or
[03:47:40] mists, but at this point should have made a micro-pired laid-down easily enough to
[03:47:43] take him out.
[03:47:44] Consequently, he's finding a return tofu comes in, we'll find a set up for them to
[03:47:48] snipe snaking in the turn, so they can get in the middle of it.
[03:47:52] Look at the jump over in the marine.
[03:47:54] One of the cops hit, Chris trying his best to bail him out a holdy button each, but
[03:47:58] niches still got plenty of them at a play with jumps in, and niches off the job.
[03:48:02] We'll have to respect the fact that a Mars turned up.
[03:48:04] No spits still went for about 10 seconds.
[03:48:06] I might just cut it with a right thing, so to take down Boxy,
[03:48:09] Toe for a Mickey, we'll find crit.
[03:48:11] Off to the side, and they'll back out.
[03:48:13] So if we continue to jump away here with the star one, it should be a good cheat.
[03:48:17] This game's fine.
[03:48:18] It's a little bit different.
[03:48:19] Yeah, we're seeing them finding these chances.
[03:48:21] Any time that they catch Falcon's off, guards split up.
[03:48:24] They've got a lot of sort of single target, great focus, great jump, of course.
[03:48:28] Between the sort of innesia,
[03:48:30] the show boxy and you know, Mick at what we know,
[03:48:33] Mick, he's being incredibly active as this carries.
[03:48:35] He wants to be right.
[03:48:36] 603, he's making sure that he's not missing out
[03:48:39] and he's opportunity to get involved.
[03:48:41] Some glad that he's getting involved to.
[03:48:42] I think he's recognized the ace is struggling a lot.
[03:48:44] He needs to do something to get involved inside this game.
[03:48:47] Get these kills.
[03:48:48] And hopefully, honestly, I have to get trouble credit.
[03:48:50] Yes, the lane was pretty disastrous,
[03:48:51] but he's done pretty decent.
[03:48:52] Does she could you stolen still holding onto it,
[03:48:54] getting these extra little kills?
[03:48:56] Oh, I saw it again, again.
[03:48:58] There's happening again, folks, he's gone.
[03:49:01] Truly?
[03:49:03] Zero and five.
[03:49:10] I mean, what's the plan going to be with this?
[03:49:12] Because obviously they did go through this right in game one, right?
[03:49:15] But A started out a really rough time on the brazer.
[03:49:18] He was getting picked off.
[03:49:20] Look at this, catch on to the other this point, okay?
[03:49:22] Just absolutely tear through him here,
[03:49:24] but the set up from Nisha, they'll bring him out down.
[03:49:27] was able to spend up close for this mind to say that he's able to pick up to try and get him
[03:49:30] well on the way towards the agonins next.
[03:49:33] But, yeah, Nick Kate getting these sort of kills, me going there online, you know,
[03:49:37] they kind of go and all in with the rest of them right there like, you know, it doesn't matter
[03:49:40] where you're trying to call that killed off.
[03:49:42] Yeah, look towards Nick.
[03:49:43] Yeah, look towards Nisha to just strike back and get the kills themselves.
[03:49:47] Yeah, and I think for Ace over on maybe playing a, I said he's a little far forward.
[03:49:52] He played a little even more defensively, even though that's not that far forward.
[03:49:55] just play as farming and careful as possible while your team is making moves. This is a big flank
[03:50:00] Falcons if I'm making it. That dude. That's a big catch. Make a can they bail them out. They can't
[03:50:04] that's making it on the end of his streak. A lot of money going over it was about rain.
[03:50:08] Throwing them up forwards over the woods. Time for the attacks the Rubik.
[03:50:12] They've got a run. Nisha should be fine. Hatings the side has plenty of money to get
[03:50:16] far, far away from Falcons. I see a massive kill. They'll yet to take him down. They get him
[03:50:22] after you can pick up all these deals, put it into a streak and now they're ready to group
[03:50:26] up and go for the push down and then this is still going to be so that the moment is
[03:50:30] going to have to be prepared for the Moshera. Any time that they're going to be aware
[03:50:33] that Falcons might be grouping up, they have to be super prepared because the group
[03:50:38] of the five-man from Falcons, it's still a bit of a death ball that can come just charging
[03:50:44] a liquid.
[03:50:45] For a very long time, it's going to have to be like E.K. B.A. isn't particular or one of these
[03:50:49] items to be able to deal with straight up 5v5 team fights. I think for liquid small pick-up little skirmish engagements can still work
[03:50:55] Yeah, if they kill the brew or the primal before a fight starts then they can also have a fight win, but that's
[03:51:00] Quite challenging. They're gonna start roach
[03:51:02] They've got all the oldies ready. I mean, the liquids gonna want to have a send they're gonna hook your back up in a few seconds
[03:51:07] They're gonna pledge your way to get in but already the jumps gonna be made out of all of them
[03:51:11] They got a beautiful cast on this one and look at them down the fall up on a more skater
[03:51:15] He's only get the time that's off.
[03:51:16] The turbo the ice pop in down on the pre with the entire team.
[03:51:19] And Liquid, primal spits off the ground.
[03:51:21] Nisha has to back away, super on the HP.
[03:51:23] Another great shackle that comes in for Bikke.
[03:51:25] That's just making him skita.
[03:51:27] Let's give him a turn for the pugs.
[03:51:28] Only latch it on towards Mikke.
[03:51:30] Liquid, David Chief, what they wanted there.
[03:51:31] They take down two of their arrows.
[03:51:33] And maybe he was more as a monster than the Bikke comes to an end.
[03:51:36] They're cornered.
[03:51:37] And no, the shackle comes in a play from Mikke.
[03:51:39] Green at on falcons.
[03:51:41] Liquid, they look at the Rochan.
[03:51:42] they can commit for this. They're pretty low, but what a fight for them to force there.
[03:51:47] And that was into the sort of position where Falcons, they did have the five
[03:51:51] man, but coming in from the high ground, liquid. They're saving to make this work.
[03:51:55] The very boxy getting battery assault off breaks the full go. And then it's a three
[03:51:59] man shackle. I think it's a five man ice pack afterwards that comes through, but the damage
[03:52:04] has already done it to start. They do the pricey sort of set up, they're coming in from
[03:52:09] Nick, and you know, it's staking and you say even getting the chance to land that sort of
[03:52:13] huge, multi-man-high-spotting deal, but it didn't matter. Liquid push forward.
[03:52:17] Nick, they might have been able to catch him up first, and then that initial move back on the
[03:52:21] triangle, but back in action and back to by the team. And lining up these sort of shackles,
[03:52:25] Nick, and absolutely terrors to deal with. They might get another hit,
[03:52:29] ball takes on to a bar. You can get caught again. The shackles are both up.
[03:52:33] Stop, Nick, you're pretty worth the freedom again. They're just all free of them,
[03:52:36] And now, Steena's going to try and run,
[03:52:39] to for a little bit of a store split,
[03:52:41] has the catch.
[03:52:42] In other said, a Steena's in trouble,
[03:52:44] four takes for Nisha, four dead on Falcons,
[03:52:47] liquid, showing the...
[03:52:48] You know, they just bring in this sort of pressure
[03:52:52] and beating Falcons in situations
[03:52:54] where Falcons, they would have almost
[03:52:56] certainly felt strong, right?
[03:52:57] This is Falcons with the five men,
[03:52:59] but look what they're finding ways to pick them apart.
[03:53:01] Even in these headl-team fights now.
[03:53:04] Every single time, Mick, he's just getting
[03:53:06] the fight so
[03:53:08] honestly, Micka is the difference maker in this game.
[03:53:10] Hem just participating even more than ever before and just getting these insane
[03:53:14] shackles.
[03:53:16] Is it another three-man shack?
[03:53:18] It's a catch as old for him.
[03:53:20] Holy crap.
[03:53:22] He's backed it back.
[03:53:24] He's heading to that sort of setup.
[03:53:26] They go to the front level.
[03:53:28] One of those nice plays.
[03:53:30] I'm catching this win, Ranger.
[03:53:32] Micka and the fact that he's 17
[03:53:34] of the 18 kills two shows that he understood I need to play a little bit more aggressive,
[03:53:39] play more involved in the game. Yeah, that was insane. I know that I've seen like a three,
[03:53:44] four-man shock, every little cluster, but then a pro game in a while, to everybody in the sun.
[03:53:51] Huge. And with the primals, you saw the split stolen there at the end, too. They tip,
[03:53:55] hopefully we get another catch. The Rubik is working. I do have to say. Even the layman was right.
[03:54:00] Absolutely, you know, and that's the thing, you know, you've always got to trust in your
[03:54:04] Rubik's right when, you know, the Lennie stage goes as it does, you know, sometimes they're
[03:54:08] not able to perform after rough start, but you know, it's total on the Rubik, you know,
[03:54:11] it's gonna happen, the lane, it's gonna be hard. Doesn't matter, still able to come in
[03:54:15] with these mid-game skills and absolutely pop off in the team fight. There's some of the
[03:54:19] bigger skills actually coming into play, getting some of these ultimate. And that, I
[03:54:25] this, that really, the game was, at least in terms of the goal, this event,
[03:54:28] Falcon is probably killing all so that they were strong in terms of teamfight.
[03:54:31] That is an AK swing, because of the whole sequence that happened around the tournament there.
[03:54:35] So, not being quick and picking up, but full items, a Crimson was done right before the fight.
[03:54:39] Ace now almost as BKB so Falcon's, maybe for themselves now, slow things down, get that next item, the BKB for the primal.
[03:54:46] Get a couple of these next items, but they're probably feeling a bit broken because they probably felt like they were a bit stronger in their fight.
[03:54:58] Let's see what the response is going to be from Falcon's now.
[03:55:03] Pretty way to out for the next rat of iTunes, BKB about a recipe away from Malorie.
[03:55:09] Yeah, Blink and BKB at a critical half Blink now to be able to get the follow up.
[03:55:13] But yeah, approaching the fights will be a lot harder now because liquid even though they're, as we've been mentioning much, like they're lack of overall teamfight in terms of spells.
[03:55:20] Now with BKBs, they can cover each other a lot easier as well.
[03:55:23] And they're going to have two, that is the second one finished up, Nisha, and the Razer
[03:55:27] have it done.
[03:55:28] Mick has gone a little more greedy.
[03:55:30] And during this two, I did have to say they did place aggressive vision in the meantime
[03:55:36] while winning that fight too, so they have just very good information on the side of liquid
[03:55:40] at the moment.
[03:55:41] So the Falcons see what they go from here.
[03:55:44] I'd just be also, like a Mar, maybe just feeling like he needs to just farm, because he did get his vessel to get to him.
[03:55:52] get his vessel at a good time, his might is at a decent time, but he's there on six
[03:55:55] to the skin.
[03:55:59] I'm at, just off the mark.
[03:56:02] Let's try.
[03:56:07] Just setting up my rush.
[03:56:10] So they can take a pretty quick care around, make it focus fire.
[03:56:16] But when the last few fights are gone, it doesn't look like Falcons are going to take the risk
[03:56:20] Just depending over for this one.
[03:56:22] So no peek if you're on.
[03:56:23] Yeah, I'm gonna get this one for free.
[03:56:25] There, no peek if you're on our in.
[03:56:27] Just wasn't quite finished.
[03:56:28] I don't know if they knew it entirely either,
[03:56:29] but yeah, without the BKB,
[03:56:30] doesn't feel safe to fight.
[03:56:32] And there's always still gonna be that hook shot.
[03:56:37] Oh, okay.
[03:56:38] So, Micka, as we said, he went greedy.
[03:56:40] So they get him the A just, even though he has a storm on his team,
[03:56:43] which is, you know, the A just carry your guard.
[03:56:46] The storm has the BKB, so they want to give it to Micka, just in case.
[03:56:50] I'm thinking about going through the clean gate for open.
[03:57:00] There's been hit by the scound.
[03:57:02] Liquid know that Falcons are coming in from this angle.
[03:57:06] Rocket will scout.
[03:57:08] They've been losing down the century in Nisha.
[03:57:10] He's ready to sort of scout out the situation.
[03:57:12] Just it's straight in and catches out crit.
[03:57:14] So any sort of move that Falcons were trying to plan down there.
[03:57:17] Immediately put to a stop.
[03:57:19] Now the fowkins are looking for these sort of wraparounds.
[03:57:21] That's a very heads up player, yes it's a BKB usage, but the only way the niche
[03:57:25] dies if he gets caught by Hacks, so he just sees it screw it, you know what?
[03:57:28] Huh?
[03:57:29] He's getting the ball rolling, he's up to 17 galvanized, had the regen, he stopped in aggressive
[03:57:33] move, just because of a rocket from Oxi.
[03:57:37] Oxi, playing behind Mick and Mick is kind of solo pushing this tower right out.
[03:57:46] Yeah, Mark, chunked to tease him around with Ace, but Ace has got back to him away from
[03:57:51] Boxing.
[03:57:52] Loads up.
[03:57:53] I'm saying, it's going to be another pick I say if the niche you're snaking can not save
[03:57:58] himself right now against the storm and top the gun for the set-up he's going to try
[03:58:01] for the T-P-Aber Boxing.
[03:58:03] Nice, totally a little move bendy with a tumbler in the shores that he can get the clean
[03:58:07] angle to come up with the hook shot.
[03:58:09] And rarely start seeing a help based on the road to recover in and those last few fights
[03:58:13] The definitely set him in the right direction.
[03:58:15] We saw that period of the game.
[03:58:16] Ace used picked up what four or five times in a row.
[03:58:19] Since that, he's rising back up the ranks.
[03:58:21] He's in the top three net worth.
[03:58:23] It's cleaning up his game.
[03:58:24] And now at this point, they're not going to be picking off this razor again any time to sue.
[03:58:29] Now, and even if you do, come in, I'll take him.
[03:58:31] He's going to have Prince in.
[03:58:32] He's going to keep him in the end of the old year.
[03:58:34] He'll be on the other side.
[03:58:35] They can be oxygen.
[03:58:37] They'll be out of place for any eight years, but it's cost him crits life.
[03:58:41] I'm going to be able to go on my care second side.
[03:58:44] Just the A is just to be taken.
[03:58:47] Very impressive from liquid.
[03:58:48] They've got this hold on the game now, and they're not letting go of it.
[03:58:51] They're not giving Falcons any breathing room.
[03:58:53] Falcons instead of blinking B could be is done.
[03:58:57] Still can you get picked off though?
[03:58:59] The brew eggs is about to be finished.
[03:59:01] They're trying to set up for something here.
[03:59:04] Let's wait, it's all ready.
[03:59:07] See?
[03:59:09] Falkens.
[03:59:13] There we go.
[03:59:14] We're trying to punish A-C, but A-C does not let the B-C have you ready to press if necessary
[03:59:18] at the moment. Not able to even pull that out of it.
[03:59:20] Crimson's pot, they're back off.
[03:59:22] A-C is done for Amar, so he's got the level 3 split now.
[03:59:26] I'm going to do that.
[03:59:31] Do they want to sort of smoke up and try and do something?
[03:59:33] But this makes you fowkins.
[03:59:34] What's the cool going to be right now?
[03:59:36] How aggressive do you want to try and be to take this lead away from the liquid?
[03:59:41] It looks like they were trying to counter initiate in particular and just be liquid
[03:59:45] into an uncomfortable position.
[03:59:46] I don't know how aggressive they want to go for the play here.
[03:59:48] Because last time they did it, they literally walked up and all died, right?
[03:59:52] So it might just be complicated to them just go for that play.
[03:59:55] that play they have a very good counter initiating line up.
[04:00:09] Just splitting back up for now fountains.
[04:00:13] Not looking to try and go for liquid at the moment.
[04:00:18] Doing their best.
[04:00:20] Yeah next round of items.
[04:00:24] The Guita on the hunt, smoked up again, they do sea targets, looking to keep this lead going.
[04:00:29] Skips down the scout hits.
[04:00:33] Now rain.
[04:00:34] Immediately out.
[04:00:36] Look what they can get the push going back on this top lane though.
[04:00:39] Trying to take that tier 2 out.
[04:00:40] If I'm just trying to match the pressure down, bottom air was skita shoving the lane forward.
[04:00:45] Skita is going off very greedy build as well, too.
[04:00:49] He's not going for BKB himself, so he has to be very careful with how he plays the teamfight.
[04:00:53] fight so one stun and he could just die.
[04:00:56] It feels like he has to because of how his other corps are having struggle at the moment.
[04:01:01] I mean they can't be who's going to be sure.
[04:01:04] Yeah, exactly.
[04:01:05] They can get the kills when they get the catch and go get the catch and fight that's coming
[04:01:08] in.
[04:01:09] So bring that box to the can they get out of this.
[04:01:11] They should come into the sea to get it if I was thinking.
[04:01:13] Make a game with his BKP as well.
[04:01:16] Just as quickly as Falcons try and get a killing dead out of that liquid.
[04:01:20] They're just right ready to just turn.
[04:01:23] punish every single time and ensure that they continue to just get these favorable trades,
[04:01:28] more galvanized stacks here for Nisha, 8-1 and 10, him and Mick Kades just in so active
[04:01:34] across them at all points of the game, they're looking pretty unstoppable right now.
[04:01:39] Now Falcons, they did a few trade or something, they got, yeah, going for this three-man smoke
[04:01:44] and might be something that at least catches liquid by surprise, but even if it does, it's
[04:01:47] actually going for the jump done crit, he's going to go for the jumping out of what's
[04:01:49] make a look at the follow-up pulverized, but can they burst in that we're down to
[04:01:54] half-page peak and they finish up the drop. He's so low! But the back comes coming in
[04:01:59] and it doesn't matter. They killed him off. They are. They don't make a. Can't
[04:02:03] make a fos when we get out of this. He should try to go forward aggressively but
[04:02:06] he's low on mana. So let's just soaring to play it to give him a little bit more of
[04:02:09] the best to get out of there. And Marta's back up in a wall's nature. He should
[04:02:13] be lost, but to try and break away from the promise where Ace is doing his
[04:02:17] to clear through the broolings and allow me to stay safe, folks, he's back in the
[04:02:21] action.
[04:02:22] Although it's over to Mount Reed, though kill Mount Reed off, niches, stays perfectly
[04:02:26] fine throughout it all.
[04:02:27] And now let us put coming to an end of Mars that's vulnerable, ace has the
[04:02:30] starting to come on him, plus my feel will clip him, and our Falcon's, they try
[04:02:34] make this crazy move to get the jump onto Micka, they succeed in killing him, but it
[04:02:39] cost them so, so much at this point.
[04:02:42] Their feeling desperate, you could see that move, too.
[04:02:44] without their carry. They're just looking to try to catch liquid off guard there, but I'm
[04:02:48] losing so much. Nice attempt.
[04:02:51] But I take some a little bit too long. Here is a start to respawn. Boxy gets the angle.
[04:02:57] Get the hook shot. Has the follow-up. Knees up to 27 galvanized. Has the sheathess.
[04:03:01] And I'm attacking outside of the base.
[04:03:05] the quick. 13 Kaylee now. Ever seen a
[04:03:11] little bit of a little too. It really was
[04:03:13] just straight on from that point onwards.
[04:03:16] And liquid they had that sort of bring
[04:03:18] this action against Falcons as you say in
[04:03:20] the early point as well. I think our
[04:03:21] Falcons may have felt that they would have
[04:03:23] been a bit better suited to sort of the
[04:03:25] action that liquid was bringing, but it
[04:03:26] was in the case liquid able to find
[04:03:28] ways to pick them apart in those
[04:03:29] key moments. And now just completely
[04:03:33] ruling them up. They've put their eyes on
[04:03:35] to talk, does that the ready for Nisha that got the set up?
[04:03:40] A skita in trouble, as you got anywhere to play out of it,
[04:03:44] but the sign-up's so get it off.
[04:03:46] The chase will continue, and there's plenty of matter
[04:03:50] on these just enough for Nisha.
[04:03:52] The clothes that got once more make-up finishes the job.
[04:03:55] Skita at that for 70 seconds.
[04:03:57] Another kill for make-up.
[04:03:59] It feels reminiscent to game one, but in the flip position, right?
[04:04:03] Talkins got timings looked for a fight, lost the fight, and then from there it's just been the opposing team controlling everything
[04:04:09] Like liquid just making all the right moves back in each other up perfectly Falcons. They're trying to make these moves
[04:04:13] But at this deficit you're seeing the lack of damage like a catch
[04:04:17] That would commit so much just not to one target to try to bring them down. No, they really are. I
[04:04:22] Just keep it by the way. It gets steel again on primal's what oh my goodness
[04:04:26] Yeah, I mean we already saw how much you were able to do that with the earlier fights. Yeah, you've got to watch out for his plays in these team fights
[04:04:32] I mean, barely that voice.
[04:04:34] I think you don't say we'll let a couple of times out of the Lamar.
[04:04:37] It was all three deaths in the name, but since then, just a grab there or there, bring
[04:04:41] us a fantastic Rubik performance.
[04:04:43] It's like, somebody just don't get to see a top, Maureen.
[04:04:47] And he's got to start getting out of this one.
[04:04:48] Does that the BKB is the ready?
[04:04:50] He might have got the chance to pop it, though.
[04:04:52] It's a shackle comes in from Micka.
[04:04:55] It's going to try and hold his ground with the grab, but the hookshot,
[04:04:57] and he's gone for a minute.
[04:05:00] They're falling apart.
[04:05:02] And Lickwood just didn't need that warm-up.
[04:05:04] It felt like we saw for a moment, maybe in this game,
[04:05:06] that Falcons were getting that fight going.
[04:05:08] But yeah, all since that moment,
[04:05:09] Lickwood has yet to falter and mistake afterwards.
[04:05:11] Everybody playing around each other nicely,
[04:05:13] not giving Falcons the opportunity to do it.
[04:05:15] We've seen Falcons do to some teams of just farming,
[04:05:18] split pushing, finding pickoffs because of this.
[04:05:20] Lickwood is not giving them that option.
[04:05:22] Not up to the vice.
[04:05:24] Falcons, we'll hit him, they gotta push them back.
[04:05:27] Skinner buys what he can.
[04:05:29] He buys a small crit.
[04:05:31] So any small thing he can do you can feel the desperation for Falcons in these next moments.
[04:05:36] How do they start the push?
[04:05:39] Mark.
[04:05:41] He tries to start, but he gets caught.
[04:05:43] He needs to be like a shark.
[04:05:44] If the shark is a little bit of a primal split,
[04:05:46] Nisha, and with a BKB, he wants to take crit out.
[04:05:49] And more money is to do so with the duration of the BKB.
[04:05:51] He looks to more snaking by sinking back to the Fowards and safely.
[04:05:54] See, of course, once more.
[04:05:56] So if you're ready to use his own stolen primal split back
[04:05:59] aggressively against a mar, I'm also going to be careful.
[04:06:01] His brooings are dying.
[04:06:03] He's got a back away.
[04:06:05] Marlene's respawn.
[04:06:06] See, we can sort of help him my out here as it comes out
[04:06:09] as if he's a bruised split.
[04:06:09] So far, he'll throw Marlene up in the afternoon.
[04:06:11] It goes straight up a little scared of the catch on the wall.
[04:06:14] He'll get the time up south.
[04:06:15] But the telekidices are there for timeframe.
[04:06:17] He's gone.
[04:06:18] Who shot everyone with Marlene?
[04:06:19] The BKP will go up a different path.
[04:06:21] the ball for us, grabbed my rein, married to Paul,
[04:06:24] Turford, he's still alive throughout it all.
[04:06:27] They could have killed the Rubik Donford,
[04:06:29] making some crazy steal, crazy days.
[04:06:31] They caught Killam, they've got to just respect GGL,
[04:06:34] up to that sort of blight GGS code.
[04:06:36] Liquid, they take it, it's 24.
[04:06:39] That was so cool, actually.
[04:06:41] You can feel it, right?
[04:06:42] That whole time, Falcons bounced strong.
[04:06:43] And it literally all around that one, five.
[04:06:45] A five man, a four man shackler, three man, whatever it was.
[04:06:48] All the way, it starts off too back.
[04:06:50] The clock is just getting a battery solved off, breaking the initial goal of the primal beast.
[04:06:53] And then after that, honestly, like it's just to chalk them out beautifully.
[04:06:56] They didn't hemorrhage any kills, didn't know how far it could to do their things.
[04:06:59] But first it's not right.
[04:07:00] That's cool.
[04:07:01] Find the suene.
[04:07:02] The rare kills that they did hemorrhage in that point with ace,
[04:07:05] they just made sure that they could compensate for it.
[04:07:07] You know, sort of double-fold elsewhere on the map right.
[04:07:10] They were constantly pushing for kills elsewhere.
[04:07:12] It didn't matter.
[04:07:13] At the end of the game ace, he called right back up,
[04:07:16] was able to get his build online and be present for those final pushers.
[04:07:19] you know, really cleaned up his act in that one, you know, and that's just sort of the case that they were probably, they knew that the game was going to go right.
[04:07:25] They knew this razor-rubic lane probably going to have a tough time probably going to fall behind, but they made the recovery and tofu in particular,
[04:07:32] given us a fantastic show on the Rubik. Something we just don't get to see this day in age.
[04:07:36] What a game 3. Can't we see how this series continues, but for now,
[04:07:40] two to one at the moment would make what we're taking the lead.
[04:07:44] Our first best of five already delivering whether it's in gameplay or more importantly,
[04:07:49] Hero Picks the liquid is a lost pick, a rubic up to round out that drop and you said it
[04:07:55] This rubic is either good to go. Oh, it ain't we'll never see it again for the next six months
[04:07:58] Are he's gonna gig a chatted up and pretty much what feels like hand liquid the win?
[04:08:03] I mean it was refreshing right?
[04:08:05] I hear of like liquid how that playing right?
[04:08:07] They've got you know eight now playing three raise the games in a row
[04:08:10] Kind of changing off the optimization in each game. I then you also have like the rubic goes in a five position
[04:08:14] Again, it's a very weak laneer
[04:08:16] But if you can get it through the lane, it gets a croutchier of a weever than ice-possils of care or any spell that line moves to use like you're gonna have a game
[04:08:23] And look at liquid story after the leading phase. They are doing it through no sure
[04:08:27] This was the battle of the carriage like skittles was what godlike tenon though like the 60 minute mark
[04:08:31] But also make it on the win with also be equally well, and then it was about a who jump to who got the pickups and liquid
[04:08:37] They just had the number of falcons
[04:08:39] I think there's such an interesting dynamic going on in this series of heroes that are being left right like liquid they give falcons as you hear
[04:08:45] They even get kind of smacked in the Nijikiro does its work
[04:08:48] But somehow they're able to clutch up these fights
[04:08:50] But it's never really built a gold in this game
[04:08:52] They're always sort of hovered around this 1k 2k even 0 gold be it felt like a very even game until this one fight
[04:08:58] Just breaks the entire game wide open
[04:09:00] They're like even with skider being like he was the young god like at one point and like I think they're going to be was at most like one or even 2k
[04:09:06] So the games are a little bit strange in their own. I think it does have a lot to do with the heroes that were picked
[04:09:11] Because I also feel like liquid they did a lot of like very clutch individual things
[04:09:15] Like I think the way they laid in the safely like make it got a lot of stuff done in that lane
[04:09:19] You know a lot of KVC won't even skill power shop did because he did
[04:09:22] Like getting some kills there they're going through the gate. Nisha again on this storm like he did it in game one
[04:09:26] He's not doing it again here in game three he popped off real hard. There's one clear thing for me at least in the series
[04:09:32] If I in game one ace didn't see him right of course
[04:09:34] You could argue about liquid how they played and then a more he was like leading the charge and the press of back game two game three
[04:09:40] I don't really know where I'm at, of course, in the Mars game you've got completely broken in lane 13 deaths in this brew game
[04:09:46] There was a couple of notes. He got split. He also gave split to tofu multiple times
[04:09:50] So it's like you're playing a brew master. You're giving away split
[04:09:52] You're not really enabling your team too much. I think your end score line was like 1-8 and 6. So yeah, the last two games
[04:09:59] Falcons, they try to missing a key component to those success
[04:10:03] Yeah, there's I feel like it's a bit strange too like maybe it has to look like a lot of the bands and also like because they put out leaning very well on their surfing
[04:10:09] And we'll say the times he gave away the split,
[04:10:11] I think maybe once he could have stopped it,
[04:10:12] I think the other times liquid, they just have his number.
[04:10:14] Like they were ready, they hex them, they still his split.
[04:10:16] But I agree, if you feel like usually you see more
[04:10:18] from a moment, like even in get one,
[04:10:20] he had a really hard game there.
[04:10:21] Now I think here too, you have some of them,
[04:10:23] they're kind of like falling under.
[04:10:24] So I think this is very important that now,
[04:10:27] the time they have between the next game,
[04:10:29] that they use it very wisely to reset and come back clean.
[04:10:32] Yeah, I mean, they're gonna have that extended break
[04:10:33] between game 3 and 4.
[04:10:35] That is what happens when you're playing a best to 5
[04:10:37] it ends up going that distance like it is doing right now.
[04:10:41] And you do have to wonder big questions.
[04:10:43] We said maybe the Jikiro was going to be the pivotal point when it came to drafts.
[04:10:46] I actually thought to you that you're going to talk about maybe what is persisted throughout
[04:10:51] this best of five is the opening pick from Falcons being primal three times in a row now.
[04:10:56] Yeah, it's the raisins from Liquid.
[04:10:58] It's the primal from Falcons.
[04:10:59] We didn't have to care.
[04:11:00] We're going back and forth.
[04:11:01] So personally it's like I think primal potentially going into the fourth game could be here
[04:11:05] like they don't rush towards.
[04:11:06] They could maybe change off their fans,
[04:11:08] maybe promote your career as a response to Razor.
[04:11:10] I loved the fact that coming into this series,
[04:11:12] it was like, what's gonna happen with Razor?
[04:11:14] And Liquid 3 games in a, like, Razor, Razor, Razor.
[04:11:16] And it's like, you break us.
[04:11:18] And Falcons, even off the game ones that maybe we have,
[04:11:20] and Falcons are adjusting every single game.
[04:11:23] Liquid, even though they make it hero changes,
[04:11:25] I don't see it in like an identity shift.
[04:11:26] Three games in a row, it's the same thing.
[04:11:28] I think that's the hardest thing going into a game for,
[04:11:30] because Falcons, every game, they kind of scrambling for a solution.
[04:11:33] Like, I want to do it with Razor.
[04:11:34] It's the first one.
[04:11:35] and now there's like, you've got luck that you've got 20 minute break.
[04:11:38] So you actually can find a solution.
[04:11:40] And it's probably not going to be half out of it.
[04:11:42] There will be a solution to this problem.
[04:11:44] Yeah, they definitely need to do something different though,
[04:11:46] because they, to be honest, they got everything they would want against the razor in these games.
[04:11:51] Like, they're not going to get bristle again. That's not happening, right?
[04:11:53] They had that counter, that counter's gone.
[04:11:54] They picked the weaver slash the winner injured.
[04:11:56] Those are the ones that they wanted second phase, right?
[04:11:58] They opted for this weaver.
[04:11:59] He did amazing landing phase, right?
[04:12:01] They shot this, weaver down, or this razor down very hard in line.
[04:12:03] early game he was doing nothing. He was just dying. I mean I don't know what you can
[04:12:06] lay in against. Weaver's heroes. It's a rough one. It's a much better land. Yeah, it is what it is.
[04:12:11] But in the game he's standing strong. He's very solid and they're just coming out ahead. They're
[04:12:16] winning his fights. If you're falcons, that's why best the five source would trick you.
[04:12:20] And it is important they get this extra time because they really need to do need to go back to the
[04:12:23] drawing board and figure this out because they're playing signature heroes. They're counterpicking
[04:12:27] the razor. They're doing all the things they prep for and it's not working. So what the heck do we do now?
[04:12:32] I mean, the one thing is, you give away the razor, you take your carers, and then rather than wasting a band because you paint like a primal something, you can then be bound the cares opening up for Mars
[04:12:40] I think there's a completely different line to go down, but it's basically if you're giving razor that hero can't be a hero like primor, it's counterbibyoclok, counterbibyor,
[04:12:48] but having to band a queen of pain, like the primal feels like it's too much stock and absorbing the draw for Falcon, so get rid of that
[04:12:54] And then you actually could breathe and understand like what's liquid's doing, how to
[04:12:57] encounter them. Like my own reading is having to play from behind on a hero that he can
[04:13:02] won't be known if he gets it in a better pick position.
[04:13:04] No, I'm going to throw something crazy out there. All right, feel free to entertain
[04:13:07] the idea. But it might be a little too crazy. Falcons just take first pick and
[04:13:13] they potentially get the ways of themselves. That is an option.
[04:13:18] That's an option.
[04:13:19] How does they end? They opted for second pick.
[04:13:22] They look like one in first pick for themselves.
[04:13:24] We've seen three games play at exactly the same way.
[04:13:26] Maybe that's the change that needs to happen.
[04:13:28] That's definitely one that is twice the...
[04:13:30] If they do have choice, of course,
[04:13:31] because they're in the B.O.F.
[04:13:32] You can change it out in this kind of thing.
[04:13:33] Exactly.
[04:13:34] But I agree with you. I think also, if I'm on Reen,
[04:13:36] I now play three games for primal.
[04:13:37] The last two kind of hell,
[04:13:39] I don't really want to play it anywhere.
[04:13:41] It's like a nice gift,
[04:13:42] because also, like this clock storm combo,
[04:13:44] there's something about it that just makes Falcons not feel good.
[04:13:46] Like I can tell by watching,
[04:13:48] Yeah, that those two heroes just do so much.
[04:13:49] So look for something else.
[04:13:51] I think the Razor, you can play into it.
[04:13:52] I would at least say it's fine.
[04:13:53] But the primal, like, take it up.
[04:13:55] Depox, you want to blink on the clock.
[04:13:57] That's just, I mean, it's not so fun.
[04:13:59] It's like, oh, there's a fight.
[04:14:00] Let me just blink over the fight.
[04:14:02] So I always get the hook shot.
[04:14:03] Like, they just had his number.
[04:14:04] So if that's cool.
[04:14:05] Yeah.
[04:14:05] Someone's going to step up.
[04:14:06] When I think of the Falcon, it's just a matter of like,
[04:14:08] you have to find one problem and really hammer home a solution to it.
[04:14:12] If you have like three or four problems, you try and half-arse it,
[04:14:14] you need, that's not going to work.
[04:14:15] like you need to go, this is the problem that solved that,
[04:14:17] then you get into the game.
[04:14:19] So I'm really hoping for a very clear solution
[04:14:21] when the draft starts.
[04:14:22] Yeah, I mean, I think that's the hardest part of it
[04:14:24] is deciding what the problem actually is.
[04:14:26] Yeah.
[04:14:27] Like sometimes you just think the wrong thing is the problem.
[04:14:29] And in the series, it's over and you're looking back
[04:14:30] well, obviously that wasn't the problem.
[04:14:32] It was the other thing.
[04:14:32] But in the moment, having being able to zoom out a little bit
[04:14:35] and look at it from a broader perspective and see,
[04:14:37] okay, what is actually happening in these games?
[04:14:39] And I think that's where Ali comes in, right?
[04:14:41] He's the most veteran of all coaches,
[04:14:43] one of the best datamides in history.
[04:14:45] I think it's a lot up to him to be able to look at this game
[04:14:48] and say this is actually what's happening.
[04:14:49] This is the real problem here.
[04:14:50] This is the cause and here's how we address that, right?
[04:14:53] That's the power of bestifies.
[04:14:54] You get that room to have a little bit of a taste
[04:14:56] to figure that out.
[04:14:57] And I think this is his and their,
[04:14:59] you know, they've won bestifies the poor down to one.
[04:15:02] They're no stranger to this.
[04:15:03] That's how they won TI.
[04:15:04] So they gotta think.
[04:15:06] I think it's also important that you look at the gameplay
[04:15:08] and not just like the drafts,
[04:15:10] because if you look at that game one,
[04:15:11] they'll want to fight up,
[04:15:11] it's like a really nice lane ward,
[04:15:13] whereas in this game too,
[04:15:14] It's like there's a lot of like very true shmoans again.
[04:15:16] The game is incredibly even, but you have boxes
[04:15:18] who's on the high ground.
[04:15:19] He passes battery, assault, bowel ring goes in.
[04:15:21] So he immediately blocks their initiation
[04:15:24] and then make it just turns around
[04:15:25] like what a three-man shackle.
[04:15:26] They turn the fight around.
[04:15:27] They get the age is the fight turns on.
[04:15:29] Then they get to like steal the split as well from a mar.
[04:15:32] And this is also like not the only fight where this happens.
[04:15:34] And these are the moments where even if you're draft,
[04:15:37] you know, maybe you don't love it or something needs to be different.
[04:15:39] You need to be able to execute these.
[04:15:41] If you want a winner tournament, you need to win with a draft
[04:15:43] that you feel like isn't better than your opponents.
[04:15:46] And I think in these moments, it's just
[04:15:47] liquid, finding the right initiation,
[04:15:49] and then they clutch other things.
[04:15:51] You're talking about like storm and clock,
[04:15:53] making sounds is not feel comfortable.
[04:15:54] And when you really think about it,
[04:15:56] it is such a big counter to primal, right?
[04:15:58] Malering is the one trying to initiate,
[04:16:00] battery so it gets off, it feels like,
[04:16:02] as primal beast, you're kind of just useless.
[04:16:04] Storm is dipping you in lane,
[04:16:06] whether that's game one or game three,
[04:16:07] and it feels like so much rest on Malering,
[04:16:09] making this early space,
[04:16:11] that even a mile who's picking this hero overall last
[04:16:14] isn't able to execute what his vision is for.
[04:16:17] I mean, it's also just hero comfort, right?
[04:16:18] Like, a mile, this is what his eighth game
[04:16:20] on Brumaster in his career.
[04:16:22] And that highlight there.
[04:16:23] I think other players, it would have been,
[04:16:24] let's offer up the Brumaster to the opponent.
[04:16:26] If he goes in, he's getting better sorted
[04:16:28] to someone who protects him,
[04:16:28] he then gets to split, you utilize that to open time.
[04:16:31] So maybe a lack of hero comfort is hurting him here.
[04:16:33] Where if he was on other heroes with a muscle memory,
[04:16:35] he would have clutched up, it would have been completely different
[04:16:37] because again, that highlight,
[04:16:39] I agree because it's like you can't just play better.
[04:16:41] Like that, if you're trying to win the tournament,
[04:16:43] you're not just five dudes walking up a choke point
[04:16:45] offering up liquid the free game, you know what I'm saying?
[04:16:47] Yeah, let's run to our death together.
[04:16:49] Like that, no, that's kind of unacceptable, right?
[04:16:51] So that's maybe another thing that's open about.
[04:16:53] Nothing to do about draft, but just looking at our point in their replay.
[04:16:56] Like why is this not a different background?
[04:16:57] Why are we not offering up the hero?
[04:16:59] That in game one, they did perfectly.
[04:17:00] They're offering up the correct heroes,
[04:17:02] they're correct kind of counter initiation.
[04:17:03] So, yeah, there's multiple points for Falcon's
[04:17:06] to look at how liquid up, just evolving
[04:17:08] through this best of five.
[04:17:09] Yeah, I mean, that's one of the weird things about how,
[04:17:12] like it's easy, it's difficult to fix gameplay
[04:17:14] in a series.
[04:17:15] Like that's the kind of thing
[04:17:16] that you watch replays for hours
[04:17:17] and you think about it and you sleep on it
[04:17:19] and you practice it in pubs
[04:17:20] and then the gameplay changes, right?
[04:17:21] Over a long period of time.
[04:17:22] But actually, fixing that in games is hard,
[04:17:25] which is why I swore often we and teams talk about draft
[04:17:27] in the middle of series because that's something
[04:17:28] that you can just click the buttons differently.
[04:17:30] And it will be different.
[04:17:31] Gameplay, that's a lot harder
[04:17:32] and there's a lot of, you just have to fake
[04:17:34] if people are gonna play better.
[04:17:35] I'm just so happy that this is a best of five,
[04:17:37] because it's like, if it wasn't,
[04:17:38] and it's just a best of three, it's just like,
[04:17:39] how liquid three games raise a,
[04:17:41] Falcons didn't ban it, they should have learned.
[04:17:43] But the fact that we do get a potential answer
[04:17:46] to a problem that is so clear to most people, right?
[04:17:48] It is the consistency of liquid, the little mini adjustments,
[04:17:51] like, even if it is like a three one, like to me,
[04:17:53] it's like, I just wanna know, what is the Falcons answer?
[04:17:56] And we rarely get that outside of a grand finals.
[04:17:58] So to me, I'm just so kind of like,
[04:18:00] I'm dearly to see what happens.
[04:18:02] of this still plenty of options of what could potentially
[04:18:05] a playout in a game number four and I know for Falcons they was saying it felt
[04:18:09] lucky that they even made it to multi maybe it's a little bit of lucky
[04:18:13] to even get a game number four, but you're going to make it count right?
[04:18:16] This opportunity is presented to you and you're going to be able to push this
[04:18:19] to a game number five if you want to be able to continue in Blossom which is
[04:18:23] This is going to be coming up just after this break.
[04:22:23] I'm going to talk to them.
[04:22:40] Welcome back.
[04:22:41] We're here in our lovely studio in Maltza.
[04:22:43] Wow.
[04:22:44] Look at all these fans and I'm here with two fans.
[04:22:46] I'm going to talk to them.
[04:22:47] Get to know them and get to know this crowd.
[04:22:49] That's what you get when you come to the studio and blast.
[04:22:51] You get to meet me everywhere you think it's a good thing about thing.
[04:22:54] I'm here with two people, what are you on?
[04:22:57] I'm here with you.
[04:22:59] I'm here with two people, what are you on?
[04:23:01] How are you enjoying events so far and where did you come from?
[04:23:04] I came from Ukraine.
[04:23:06] I'm hungry.
[04:23:08] We're all over the place and how are you feeling about events so far?
[04:23:11] Is this your first time coming to an event?
[04:23:13] Usually I don't really watch a daughter and come to events.
[04:23:18] But today I'm here, I just because I really like how blessed to do it.
[04:23:25] Okay, awesome. I like how blessed do it too.
[04:23:27] How much do you have a sixth event, I guess?
[04:23:30] Oh, dang.
[04:23:30] Okay, so what are the other ones? How does this one rank so far?
[04:23:33] I mean, it's pretty high up there, right?
[04:23:35] Like, we usually see like these studio lands all the time
[04:23:37] and we finally get to be close to you guys.
[04:23:40] And you're here with us in the crowd and sort of very homey, little bit,
[04:23:44] BTS, like, event for sure.
[04:23:47] So it does bring back those old lights for sure.
[04:23:49] Yeah, I think so too.
[04:23:50] I think it's been a very cool experience so far for me.
[04:23:53] I heard you're a caster, and you cast this sort of the famed 3-2-2 match recently.
[04:23:59] How was that?
[04:24:01] Shout out to for Ivan for giving me global fame.
[04:24:05] I'm really, really sad, Mike, or told him not when that one.
[04:24:07] But yeah, if you're AFK in the lobby for 30 minutes,
[04:24:11] I didn't even notice actually that he reconnected.
[04:24:14] And you just stood there in the fountain, just dumbfounded.
[04:24:17] I was like, is he reconnected?
[04:24:19] Is there like a lobby change or something new patch came out
[04:24:21] that like, you know, you can't control the hero anymore?
[04:24:24] And no, I was actually like dumbfounded, like,
[04:24:26] well, how the hell did that happen?
[04:24:27] But for the memes.
[04:24:29] Yeah, unlike you, what can you do?
[04:24:31] And so if you, if you're not a big,
[04:24:33] dodefan, generally, then what games do you play?
[04:24:36] And then why, why I guess this event,
[04:24:37] specifically, is just the last thing?
[04:24:39] What did you have played that look?
[04:24:41] Me too, big fan, big fan.
[04:24:42] I saw, I saw.
[04:24:44] So, most of them, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a little flat.
[04:24:49] Oh, well, okay, that's, that's crazy to me though,
[04:24:51] to be a league player and to come to a door to a door to a,
[04:24:53] that's very open-minded and I respect that,
[04:24:55] that ability to enjoy multiple games
[04:24:57] that they're like, and draw myself, I respect that.
[04:25:00] So when do you do play, daughter, what do you,
[04:25:01] what do you typically play?
[04:25:03] I don't play, don't I?
[04:25:04] Okay, all right, I respect that.
[04:25:06] Well, we've gotten a couple of our fans
[04:25:08] and hopefully we'll get to know more over the coming days
[04:25:10] and with that, back to Natalie T.
[04:25:14] Thank you so much, Quinn, and of course, to the fans joining him in the crowd and as Quinn always
[04:25:20] does find the silver lining where he possibly can about those sorts of moments, but a lot of fun.
[04:25:25] Coming to the studio hit. Did you enjoy it?
[04:25:27] I did. No, they're not. No, you can say the choice. No, I enjoyed it.
[04:25:30] Okay, okay. I did. I did. I did. That was great. And I think it's great to be here with the
[04:25:34] fans of person. There's a cool energy. And at these right, it's a mix between sort of the
[04:25:38] hominess of maybe a BTS style land back in the day. But also the crowd. It's a, I like it.
[04:25:43] It's a cool atmosphere. I've been enjoying it so far.
[04:25:45] Well, hopefully the energy is continuing because whilst there's still a little bit more time before our best five continues, I thought we'd play a fun little game.
[04:25:54] Woo!
[04:25:56] I love game.
[04:25:58] Alright, I'm scared.
[04:25:59] Alright, as a my lovely, kind of list of nasty.
[04:26:02] No, there is, we've lost PGM, so they can not long to see what is going on to the audience and the, you know, into the broadcast.
[04:26:10] cost. Well, what we're going to do is to be able to play the game with celebrity heads.
[04:26:14] Where you get a name of your planet. And you essentially have to ask yes or no questions,
[04:26:20] and we have to lead you to figure out who you are. Okay. All right. Who wants to go?
[04:26:24] We're a celebrity or we don't think. It's totally okay. When we're going to go in generic
[04:26:28] celebrities, we're going to go to celebrities, okay? Who'd like to get first? I think it goes first.
[04:26:32] Okay. You get to, oh, I get to pick any of these on. And we're describing it to him.
[04:26:36] He has to ask us one more question.
[04:26:40] Okay.
[04:26:41] Okay.
[04:26:42] It's a little bit over.
[04:26:43] Flip it over.
[04:26:44] It's okay.
[04:26:45] Okay.
[04:26:46] We can see it.
[04:26:47] I don't know who to do it.
[04:26:48] It's a daughter's celebrity.
[04:26:49] Yes.
[04:26:50] Okay.
[04:26:51] Big time.
[04:26:52] Do I still play?
[04:26:53] Yes.
[04:26:54] I still play.
[04:26:55] Am I at this event?
[04:26:56] No.
[04:26:57] I'm not at this event.
[04:26:58] Am I a streamer?
[04:26:59] No.
[04:27:00] No.
[04:27:01] I'm a pro player.
[04:27:02] Yes.
[04:27:03] Am I from Europe?
[04:27:05] Yeah, yeah, sort of sort of sort of sort of sort of sort of sort of sort of.
[04:27:09] Yeah, you're a person whole guess.
[04:27:11] Yes.
[04:27:12] Am I in a tier one team?
[04:27:14] No.
[04:27:15] It's a beta-borne.
[04:27:16] No.
[04:27:17] No, no, no.
[04:27:18] No.
[04:27:19] No, no.
[04:27:20] No, no.
[04:27:21] It's fine.
[04:27:22] No, no, no.
[04:27:23] Am I in Nigma Galaxy?
[04:27:25] No, no, no.
[04:27:26] That's true.
[04:27:27] Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.
[04:27:28] That's true.
[04:27:29] That's true, you can't show.
[04:27:30] Wow, but now I really lost my thought.
[04:27:31] I really thought I was closer.
[04:27:32] So I'm not tier one player.
[04:27:34] Well, where's the camera?
[04:27:38] It's... No, it's like... Wow!
[04:27:41] Oh, I'm from Europe, I'm not totally, I'm not a dissapoint.
[04:27:45] Yeah.
[04:27:46] Am I in top 100 rank? Yes, absolutely.
[04:27:49] 100%.
[04:27:51] Let me think about some quality farms.
[04:27:54] Do I play carry? Yes.
[04:27:57] And I'm from Europe, yeah.
[04:27:59] Yeah.
[04:28:01] I'm going for all the non-European players.
[04:28:04] There's a very famous meme about this character.
[04:28:07] Whoa.
[04:28:08] I'm gonna, I wanna, you know, I'm just gonna...
[04:28:10] He's also much higher than right 100.
[04:28:12] Yeah.
[04:28:13] And, has been to one, and arguably is one point five now, for now.
[04:28:17] Is it like...
[04:28:18] So, I'm European, I do not play for Aurora.
[04:28:21] You do?
[04:28:22] Yeah, and I'm the carrier of Aurora.
[04:28:24] So, I'm not fault.
[04:28:25] You're an asshole.
[04:28:26] You're an asshole.
[04:28:27] You can be TV out.
[04:28:28] Why would you put a Aurora then?
[04:28:30] Because these guys nothing from your kind of throws me off. Okay, but he is from like he's just like a player
[04:28:35] Yeah, okay, but this is what I mean
[04:28:37] You're up as a whole. Okay, that's fine. That you think that that is the anyway anyway
[04:28:41] Who's that you who ever who ever talked to me that oh, so the fast about BKB T
[04:28:47] All right
[04:28:53] Am I a caster or am I talent no no I'm a player?
[04:28:57] Yeah, no. Well, well, yeah, I mean, I'm being a player. Yeah, my streamer. No, no, no, no, no.
[04:29:07] Yeah, no, currently, yeah. You got a current player and you're not a current streamer.
[04:29:11] I did I went to high. No, oh, I didn't know you were, oh, you know.
[04:29:17] Am I old school? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
[04:29:20] Um, am I popular?
[04:29:22] Yeah.
[04:29:23] Yeah.
[04:29:24] Yeah.
[04:29:25] Yeah.
[04:29:26] I love you.
[04:29:27] Yeah.
[04:29:28] I don't hate Netflix.
[04:29:29] I miss him every day.
[04:29:30] Me too.
[04:29:31] Every day.
[04:29:32] But he's not a cameraman every day.
[04:29:33] Every day.
[04:29:34] Right.
[04:29:35] Am I from Europe?
[04:29:37] No.
[04:29:38] Am I from North America?
[04:29:39] Yeehaw.
[04:29:40] Am I a eternal envy?
[04:29:41] Yeah.
[04:29:42] I love you.
[04:29:43] I love you.
[04:29:44] No.
[04:29:45] I'm just like, he said he loved him.
[04:29:47] Have we all done this?
[04:29:48] That is tweet.
[04:29:49] It's going to be a nice game.
[04:29:50] It's going to be a nice game.
[04:29:51] Yeah.
[04:29:52] OK, we're going to time for my double checking with...
[04:29:53] Oh, welcome.
[04:29:53] Oh, my goodness.
[04:29:54] OK.
[04:29:54] Show them off of the social media.
[04:29:56] That's how we do it.
[04:29:57] Let's do it for the grand.
[04:29:58] Do it for the grand.
[04:29:58] OK.
[04:29:59] We're going to see if it's right.
[04:30:00] All the way around.
[04:30:02] OK.
[04:30:03] This might be a tricky one.
[04:30:05] You're going to ask a lot of questions.
[04:30:07] How about you, mom?
[04:30:09] I'm going to ask a lot of questions.
[04:30:09] How about European?
[04:30:11] No.
[04:30:11] I'm American.
[04:30:12] No.
[04:30:13] I'm myself.
[04:30:14] I'm American.
[04:30:15] No.
[04:30:16] I'm Chinese.
[04:30:17] OK.
[04:30:18] Let's go.
[04:30:19] Am I okay? Am I on a current protein? No, no. Not currently. No. Am I Genki?
[04:30:27] You hold it.
[04:30:28] Listen, okay.
[04:30:29] Listen, okay.
[04:30:30] Listen, okay.
[04:30:31] Hold on, listen.
[04:30:32] Oh, okay.
[04:30:33] That is way too good.
[04:30:34] Okay.
[04:30:34] Okay, okay.
[04:30:35] Sorry, sorry, my friend.
[04:30:36] Really, that's not a problem.
[04:30:37] Yeah.
[04:30:38] Yeah.
[04:30:38] Oh, my God.
[04:30:39] I'm so sorry.
[04:30:40] Okay.
[04:30:40] I'm getting killed.
[04:30:41] I'm so sorry.
[04:30:42] You got to go again.
[04:30:43] We got to see if that was a fluke.
[04:30:44] Yeah, we got to see if that counts it.
[04:30:45] All right.
[04:30:46] Oh, please go again.
[04:30:47] Close your eyes.
[04:30:48] I will not for any, I promise.
[04:30:50] I just nearly just took some of his head off.
[04:30:52] Oh, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10.
[04:30:53] That's worth it.
[04:30:54] OK.
[04:30:55] Ask away.
[04:30:56] Am I from Australia?
[04:31:00] No, no, I'm from Australia.
[04:31:03] I know.
[04:31:04] I look at it all in on Anna.
[04:31:05] OK.
[04:31:05] Yeah, I don't think he's in on it.
[04:31:07] OK, am I a pro player?
[04:31:08] Yes.
[04:31:09] Yes.
[04:31:10] Am I a current player?
[04:31:13] Yes.
[04:31:15] At this event?
[04:31:16] Yes.
[04:31:17] How am I from Navi?
[04:31:19] No.
[04:31:20] Um...
[04:31:22] East or West of Europe?
[04:31:24] No, it's a yes, no question.
[04:31:25] Okay.
[04:31:26] European player.
[04:31:27] Yes.
[04:31:29] You got this.
[04:31:30] You got two teams.
[04:31:32] Lock it.
[04:31:33] Did they just lose a game in this series?
[04:31:36] No.
[04:31:37] Okay, that's two teams.
[04:31:38] One easy clap.
[04:31:39] Um...
[04:31:40] European player.
[04:31:41] Well, they did lose a game in this series.
[04:31:43] But just not just now.
[04:31:44] But before that.
[04:31:45] They have lost a game in this series.
[04:31:46] Oh, what the fuck?
[04:31:49] So I'm essentially telling you it's someone from these two teams.
[04:31:52] I like so.
[04:31:53] Yeah, I can tell.
[04:31:55] I can tell.
[04:31:56] What's the hell?
[04:31:57] Okay, cool.
[04:31:58] Let's just start listening.
[04:31:59] So there's five possible people.
[04:32:01] No, it's not this time.
[04:32:02] Did this person by Blink Dagger in the last game?
[04:32:04] Yeah.
[04:32:05] Yeah.
[04:32:06] Is it boxy?
[04:32:07] It is.
[04:32:08] I'm not going to ask that.
[04:32:09] I'm not going to ask that.
[04:32:11] I'm not going to ask that.
[04:32:12] It's so confused about this.
[04:32:15] We get you said just lost the name.
[04:32:17] Thought you meant the most recent.
[04:32:19] Yeah, that would happen.
[04:32:20] We can't think of it.
[04:32:21] We did it.
[04:32:22] And I understood what you meant, which is why.
[04:32:24] Thank you so much.
[04:32:25] Let's go.
[04:32:26] Let's go.
[04:32:27] Look at the way that it is.
[04:32:29] Is T might not account to the most recent game when it comes to losses.
[04:32:34] But we are.
[04:32:35] Falkham's lost game number three.
[04:32:36] So right now in our best of five.
[04:32:38] It is two up to liquid.
[04:32:40] And it means a game number four is upon us.
[04:32:45] Oh, at the end of breaking down game, number three, I did have a crazy thought that
[04:33:10] I threw out there.
[04:33:11] And it was, what if Falcons just take first pick for themselves?
[04:33:15] Then maybe we wouldn't have to worry about this trade between razor or primal or jacquero.
[04:33:20] And that is what is going to happen here for a game number four for the first time in
[04:33:24] this best of five Falcons will be opening off the drop.
[04:33:27] And it does now question, how would changes in the band is going to play out now that
[04:33:32] liquid are going to have one extra onto their belt?
[04:33:34] Yeah, I mean, I think it's definitely a good change for Falcons, we'll have to see how it affects
[04:33:39] the first phase, but I think mixing things up, not running back the same thing that you
[04:33:43] just lost twice in row, your confidence is shaken, and it's hard to just run, keep running
[04:33:47] it back with that blind phase.
[04:33:49] So mixing it up and getting a different approach at different game, and it'd be a different
[04:33:52] hero from Malreen, I think, is a very nice step for them.
[04:33:55] I will say the one thing for them, because it is nice to change it up and like a long
[04:33:59] series about Falcons, they haven't won a single game on first pick in this event.
[04:34:02] They've only played, I think, two games on first pick so far.
[04:34:05] So I think it's kind of fitting that it's in your elimination game that, you know, you make
[04:34:09] you're a big chef, you like try to come and clean, do something different, and just treat
[04:34:12] it just like any other game.
[04:34:14] Yeah, and you can see that the draft time wasn't moving, we're just quickly sorting out
[04:34:18] a coach headset, so there was a reason why the clock wasn't ticking down, but I mean,
[04:34:22] the inevitable is Falcons, now we're going to take the raises of themselves.
[04:34:27] Like, has this grandfinal just become that order of Falcons and ignore the hero, let's say
[04:34:32] they take your care, let's, let's take it, they really want to, like, then, then you
[04:34:38] What was the point in having it first?
[04:34:40] If you're going to do that straight anyway?
[04:34:42] Yeah, so that's fine.
[04:34:43] OK, yeah.
[04:34:44] Yeah, because I would say, like, it first pick Razor already looks
[04:34:46] that good.
[04:34:47] It makes second pick Razor even more terrifying,
[04:34:49] just because he can deflect.
[04:34:50] So I would open wouldn't happen.
[04:34:52] Yeah.
[04:34:53] I appreciate liquid taking it out and also, you know,
[04:34:55] understanding, of course, when it drops, you know,
[04:34:57] changes, you need to adjust your bands and just be ready.
[04:35:00] But for now, obviously, liquid must be feeling good.
[04:35:02] Of course, there was a longer break.
[04:35:03] So hopefully, both teams are kind of clearly reset.
[04:35:07] These are good bands, they have very, very fawkins bands.
[04:35:10] It's the one hero they've won with, and then the classic,
[04:35:13] a more mal-green heroes. So, makes a ton of sense.
[04:35:16] I'm curious what direction they're going to go.
[04:35:19] Three, four, five, six.
[04:35:22] So this is band's second phase, both game two and three.
[04:35:24] Yep, and it was the winner of game one, so going back to something they had success with.
[04:35:29] Very powerful here, obviously, it's band in almost every single game.
[04:35:31] It's just sort of this series in particular. It's been getting through the first phase.
[04:35:34] So the liquids they then just take a jacquero. Again the thing with trim protectors is like you want the game on your pacing
[04:35:40] Like you want you're living armor on a guy who's going aggressive you want everything to be proactive as soon as you're playing defensive
[04:35:46] It's not the same way like you're you're gonna be missing something on the hero
[04:35:49] You don't have as much damage as others you do have to say the ability but it really is a hero that you want to kind of
[04:35:54] Prop up the success of other people and already liquid
[04:35:57] I'm sure they can identify that and try to make sure they bring heroes to fight because again
[04:36:01] like what they lost the mid tower, what mid it was in the upper game, is 3-10 minutes, it's
[04:36:05] 3 is not that type of hero, he wants to be aggressive.
[04:36:09] And overall does make sense, I think like Falcons having, you know, 3 and they always
[04:36:13] have like a very solid safe lane, they have like 2 B.C. guys, you can throw a living
[04:36:16] armor on early, you can defend your tower, so I just hope that Falcons will, you know,
[04:36:20] continue to like up the pace a little bit to be able to play into Liquid, but at least for
[04:36:24] now, obviously, I mean, both teams got some crazy heroes on their hands, yeah, we've seen
[04:36:30] in the secure power of your care of the past few times.
[04:36:32] I think for me, I'm interested in seeing what core
[04:36:35] Falcon's picks first.
[04:36:36] They've got to pick one in their next phase.
[04:36:38] So are they going to leave Maltreens here
[04:36:40] or are they going to go back for the primal again?
[04:36:42] And are you going to play against this clock work
[04:36:45] potentially?
[04:36:46] Are you picking something more mobile?
[04:36:47] I can find Falcon's.
[04:36:48] I would like to see Maltreens not play into these miserable
[04:36:51] matchups and give the guy actual good matchups
[04:36:53] for once this series.
[04:36:55] I will say maybe the lack of a queen of pain ban here
[04:36:58] doesn't necessarily indicate that they want to go back for the primal that there's going to be way more of a change up for game full.
[04:37:04] Yeah, it's true.
[04:37:05] To be fair, it depends a bit on how you're thinking because as Liquid, you also need to respect that Falcons could take it on 18, like ultimately you can't really respond to it after.
[04:37:13] So, maybe if you ban crop, you're kind of like Liquid will then just ban the primal.
[04:37:17] So, I mean, it's a lot of mind games. Obviously, it's what drafting is all about. It is incredibly kind of like,
[04:37:21] Okay, the conflict was respecting what Ken's can do to Mars kind of reminding Falcon's like hey, you think Mars and didn't
[04:37:29] Bankers, we're not going to remind you that through this battle order
[04:37:33] So yeah, very solid opening from liquid if it speaks for itself right the team fight the early game movements
[04:37:40] Securing objectives taking objectives like these two heroes together will be up to do that
[04:37:44] We're you know just add one more here into the mix
[04:37:47] Yeah, and I think against tree you need some amount of team fight because he's
[04:37:51] he can do both, where he's not a bad team fighter by any means, but he can also do
[04:37:54] the sneaking around the map, push the slide lanes with his invis. So you need a bit of
[04:37:58] both, and I think starting off your draft with some nice strong team fight, and then potentially
[04:38:02] later on getting the magic hero, just push, push, just counteract the silent pressure,
[04:38:07] you can fix that later on. And the remote stuff, believe, has been downed down in
[04:38:11] the leap, all three. Three games, yep, yep, yep, I can promise you that.
[04:38:14] It's uh, here that crit has not had access to, for the main thing,
[04:38:17] the entire time, I mean, the staking has played a couple times in this slam so far, but it's probably the fourth position due to the trim.
[04:38:23] I mean, this is one of the harder picks generally speaking, maybe liquid made it slightly easier because they did show you a core in the Mars,
[04:38:29] so I would assume that this should be Skeeter's Hero. They did also banner like the Slarter and Conquer, you know, maybe they were looking like a weaver or like some range type hero like Wind Ranger,
[04:38:38] which Mars is generally quite good against those, and when you do pair up 3 and plus 1, it's generally 3 plus a range guy, but overall I would expect a carry to come out on the slot.
[04:38:47] Any combo breaker, the others historically do well here,
[04:38:50] but it then does invite liquid to some counterpics,
[04:38:53] but I thought the way that Falcons are drafting,
[04:38:55] they've seen Malrine struggle from the counterpics,
[04:38:57] and I'm more just struggle to get into the series
[04:38:59] and game two and three.
[04:39:00] So I think Skidder's gonna take one game
[04:39:02] where it's all take the brunt of the draft,
[04:39:04] let you two shine for a bit.
[04:39:07] Yeah, I mean, the more point I think is very valid,
[04:39:10] and I'm curious what they actually decided to go for.
[04:39:13] The little extra clean squishy.
[04:39:15] I had a really rough game in the game because they got ransacked.
[04:39:19] It does pair very well with Trey and I'm sure he'll have a very solid lane that combo.
[04:39:23] I can't imagine it is really going to lose two more or less plus anything.
[04:39:26] So at the very least, they've got a solid lane there.
[04:39:31] I could see one pick that liquid could consider.
[04:39:34] I do think like Monkey King on a 167, the 1617 that you can flex towards later is quite strong.
[04:39:40] Something else you can go for here is, I mean it depends what Nisha kind of wants to cook.
[04:39:45] So because you have to pick one of your course here on the slots, you're going to pick your support with one of the other cores.
[04:39:50] But I think the faster pace is quite good and so liquid win most of their games.
[04:39:54] I don't just go for the open stones for it, right?
[04:39:56] They've already protected themselves with some of the lane accountans.
[04:39:58] They've already shown it doing well.
[04:40:01] I think there's like stone for mid or like the monkey that itches profit for the carry.
[04:40:05] I like the three here as at least, kind of circling in my mind.
[04:40:08] It just depends on what liquid values for the last pick.
[04:40:11] Yeah.
[04:40:12] I think the storm is one of those things that happens more down the lock.
[04:40:17] I don't know if this is final prevention.
[04:40:21] If we're just going to keep taking this hero because we feel like it's good.
[04:40:25] It's marines here, which maybe is a correct read.
[04:40:28] Do you think a pigeonhole is liquid a little too much to just bring out the clock even in anticipation?
[04:40:35] Really?
[04:40:36] They already have waste of the fight.
[04:40:39] Any vision is really good against clinks, you then see the clink through some
[04:40:44] centering and rocket flare and the mask and jump in and then if clinks that's up you
[04:40:48] got to have shot a half step by pipe and you don't really want to buy pipes, so yeah just
[04:40:51] go and just a nice casual here for liquid.
[04:40:54] I mean they're playing for the skirmish and the fight in the post-lating phase, right?
[04:40:57] So, clock, rub it, to carry out these heroes kind of shine in that style of play.
[04:41:02] Followed damage is still definitely what you want on Liquid Heroes, like you have Morrison
[04:41:06] You have insane amount of catch and like a map play, but the only one that's like kind of following it is
[04:41:11] Jekiro you want your other course to be able to
[04:41:13] Like help with that too. I do think the heroes we mentioned so far they do help at that
[04:41:17] But you also need to consider falkans. They have a safe with the box and also like global living armors
[04:41:22] It's always gonna be thrown on these people so you can't just take some you know some
[04:41:26] Every day type guy
[04:41:28] Ah, so Liquid can take me up, so if I was just thinking about Falcons, let's ignore my
[04:41:32] rain for a second. The undenought, the rain play, the tie-hunter, the rain play. Those
[04:41:36] heroes are the best blobs to deal with, to Kero Clock might Mars. You just put yourself
[04:41:40] in front of that. You try and bait all of it out and then clinks will only join the fight once
[04:41:44] it's done it. So Liquid kind of respecting what a mark could have picked it, to take over the draft.
[04:41:51] Yeah, I mean, it's also, it's followed down and dried, or it's a quite IDPS hero, but you do have
[04:41:55] Triple melee here was running into a tree into a ringmaster here was that if like you said a lot of save a lot of sort of turn around potential into a potential clinks army
[04:42:03] So there in terms of like the fight dynamics liquid is very go in very ungrubunga and if falcons get you know more
[04:42:09] Citing tools. There is a world where it can play out sort of like game one day to where falcons is chilling and liquid is running deep into them
[04:42:16] And they're able to turn these fights around where they're getting liquid to over chase some see other rest of the draft pans out
[04:42:22] It's able to craft this scenario that
[04:42:24] when it's off to that, but it is possible.
[04:42:26] And I wonder if a Mar has a spicy pick in the straf.
[04:42:31] I think generally speaking, his pool does not fare well against Ursula Edel.
[04:42:35] Especially, Ursula Duke Hero, this is really hard, you know,
[04:42:38] dueling to that craft that he regains.
[04:42:40] You know, your Viper's Razors are out.
[04:42:41] Slardo is one of the options that Code of Work,
[04:42:43] but obviously that hero is also banned.
[04:42:45] Bring back the Sloth off, right?
[04:42:47] Don't crazy.
[04:42:49] Good old nigma dot, Mar.
[04:42:51] Yeah.
[04:42:52] I'm jumping in, I'm taking all the spells.
[04:42:56] It might be something weird, like they are using time on this.
[04:42:59] I won't try it through quick, yeah.
[04:43:03] All right, I assume that's not it.
[04:43:04] It's gonna flex before, so it could be off-land,
[04:43:08] but it just doesn't seem like there's a reason for it necessarily,
[04:43:12] if you're picking it into the Ursa, like if you're landing against them.
[04:43:16] Yeah. Blind, I get it, right?
[04:43:19] You're gonna bend Queen here, you're gonna bend Storm or Ember.
[04:43:22] and you're gonna do fine mid or if they're gonna stack the cams it's ringmaps or
[04:43:26] sanking it's a classic combo for Falcons you epicenter you combo with all the spells
[04:43:29] and you get kills and just feels like they've got the hero to give themselves like a lifeline
[04:43:34] but when they could bring that aggression one epicenter get a kill okay breathe they need to reset
[04:43:39] clink during that time she's farm and item or components of item then you go again
[04:43:44] of course that kind of full of part if need to be able to find the hero to delay sanking
[04:43:48] So I think, pretty much looking at Falcons lineup,
[04:43:50] that Sainting needs to do everything in the early game,
[04:43:53] outside of some kinks landing,
[04:43:55] to ensure the game feels stable,
[04:43:57] the big target on his back.
[04:43:59] I'm looking at that less track again if it's not bad.
[04:44:01] It's a very good less track game.
[04:44:02] That's side of the clanks that you have plenty of tools
[04:44:04] to help deal with and you've got a lot of catch
[04:44:06] and a lot of jumpers.
[04:44:07] And I still agree with what Kesar said, right?
[04:44:08] You've got Mars, you've got Clockwork on your team,
[04:44:10] there's your heroes that are not particularly high damage,
[04:44:12] and you want to, you want some follow-up,
[04:44:13] so I'm looking at less or Queen or some high damage magic damage
[04:44:18] that you can compliment your heroes with and cut through this sanking.
[04:44:21] I think don't they just have to ban quap on falcons?
[04:44:24] It's just a lash is also really dirty.
[04:44:26] I mean I guess they're all really good. So you kind of have to pick your poison.
[04:44:29] Yeah. That is the thing about the sanking when there's no sort of spell mids band,
[04:44:33] is you're going to walk into one of these initiatives. It's super comfortable on all of them.
[04:44:36] You're at the ban the quap. You know? We saw what you can do on a lash.
[04:44:41] I think that the hope for the giving liquid lash is like at some point he'll go aggressive and then
[04:44:46] for a ringmaster save, or a counter-initiate for falcons,
[04:44:50] that leaning more on that, but Cops just continues
[04:44:53] in the way.
[04:44:54] So that's why it's a fight hit, reset, go again.
[04:44:59] Yeah, there's more committal, and Liquid already
[04:45:01] has a lot of committals, so maybe they're like, OK,
[04:45:03] the theme of it is redundant.
[04:45:05] Yeah, you're not getting there's nothing new.
[04:45:06] Here's adding on more to what you have.
[04:45:08] And we feel like we have the tools to deal with the type
[04:45:10] of fight you have.
[04:45:14] I mean, they say do put something off lane.
[04:45:15] I'm expecting him to be like hugging the tree line, nothing ready to his name, watching us
[04:45:20] a farm, jacquire to follow his name, I mean, it's gotta be an off-line pick, I think,
[04:45:28] but there just isn't one that makes me get a jump out of my seat.
[04:45:32] They all seem like very normal, like very basic, into like Ursula, so maybe Faulkens can
[04:45:37] be fine with that if they can find an aura guide that also gives them a teamfight, but
[04:45:41] It's just even then, like Ersa is good against that.
[04:45:44] It would be amazing for them if they can shut that down.
[04:45:47] Like maybe you can play for a slight loss in the lane,
[04:45:49] and then play for Malhreen stacks,
[04:45:51] but then when he has the blank, he can recover your game.
[04:45:54] By making a move like on to make a lane.
[04:45:56] Maybe that's something that they want to go for.
[04:45:59] Yeah, that is very possible.
[04:46:00] They're thinking long and hard,
[04:46:01] both teams using pretty much all the reserve time.
[04:46:04] So I'm going to go down to the wire.
[04:46:06] Isn't pretty much pretty good to go?
[04:46:08] Okay, we trust you brother, whatever you want.
[04:46:10] You pick and we go play.
[04:46:11] I mean, it's, it's okay. It's certainly nothing to play. It's very 50-50 in my opinion.
[04:46:29] I wouldn't, it can go both ways, but Ersak generally speaking shoot the well against your lane.
[04:46:34] And he's a ages hero. Doom traditionally is super ass against heroes and line-ups at have ages.
[04:46:39] But I think at least Falcons are then taking a nod towards, okay, what does Nishina want to play in this game?
[04:46:45] Whatever he's going to play, a Mars entire game plan will be Doom Nisha, right?
[04:46:49] And then through the cutting of the tree of the ringmaster, the positioning of the clingsight.
[04:46:52] A Mars job is survive lane, and make sure that when you press the Alt key, it's always on Nisha.
[04:46:58] Like he looks across the stage, it's like you're doomed, you're doomed, you're doomed every time.
[04:47:01] But yeah, it's a, it's once again a Falcons line up that needs a little bit of scaling, a little bit of respect with the early game.
[04:47:07] But the code on base as well, like playing around every center in Doom can't be complicated when liquid
[04:47:13] There's nothing really to care about like models doesn't always care about Rina's fair so good
[04:47:17] Let's rock again go go go go go go us at equally so
[04:47:20] So if I could they just need to play a better lane and respect liquid
[04:47:23] Just potentially running over you
[04:47:25] Yeah, it is how falcons draft and how they you know have succeeded many many times in many other tournaments, but I will say that for me
[04:47:32] It's more about how liquid execute if you put your two supports with this less who has a good lane
[04:47:37] you can invade the triangle. You can play on a Mars lane. You should have ages in the mid game.
[04:47:41] Like to me, it's a lot about liquid execute, and I think if they can, it's kind of
[04:47:45] they're game to take. So I'm looking at Falcon 2, like really try to, you know, put some
[04:47:49] plays in the mix that, like, really slow liquid down.
[04:47:52] One silver lining is a needs to form a battlefieldry, isn't as aggressive of a
[04:47:56] character in the case playing. So that alone might buy time for the skill to actually get
[04:48:00] one item, a mart to get one item, right? There will be a point where Falcon 2 is not going to have
[04:48:04] You know, 8k down the down 15k. I feel like there's a slight bit of itemization required for the quick to show him.
[04:48:11] Yeah, I mean, I'm genuinely a little bit conflicted because I actually like liquid-strap more than falcons.
[04:48:15] And I prefer falcons wrapped every other game, but they're definitely down in this series.
[04:48:19] And so for me, I don't know how to feel because liquid was picking these weird non cohesive lineups in a way.
[04:48:24] It was a lot of selfish. This to me is more cohesive.
[04:48:27] So can they play actually that more team structure game into falcons compared to the solabolo?
[04:48:31] And the clock in the jacquira, they're so aggressive once again.
[04:48:34] So when we talk about the mid lanes, what we need to do,
[04:48:36] we're looking at liquid once again shining towards this active range,
[04:48:38] shining towards trying to play that pressure and already maroon.
[04:48:41] He needs the early blink, he needs to make all these moves for the farming
[04:48:45] sidelines that even have any success.
[04:48:48] I just hope that the mid game can be better this time around, I think, for Falcons.
[04:48:51] Like we've seen in the last couple of games,
[04:48:52] it's a kind of win these mid game fights,
[04:48:54] but like if this time around Falcons can pick it up from there and do well,
[04:48:58] then I do think we will have a game on our hands.
[04:49:01] Well, it sounds like that the panel is siding with you guys.
[04:49:05] Alley when it comes to draft, but obviously you've had the favor in the draft the last few games.
[04:49:10] I do want to know, not banning the Razor, letting it through three games and a robot was a thinking behind that.
[04:49:17] Honestly, we think our first game, our counter is good to it.
[04:49:21] We had a couple ideas for us here.
[04:49:23] Right now, you don't have as much data, because you don't see people's pub, you don't have to go to two protractor.
[04:49:28] So you just go on with the idea and sort of hope for the best and one time where right I think second game was pretty rough and third game
[04:49:35] I think this was like a very winnable game for us, so you know it's how it goes in Dota
[04:49:38] Yeah, and the biggest change up now for game four is you guys are first pick. I want to know how that changed or drafting for you guys
[04:49:44] or if you were ready for this
[04:49:48] I mean it's pretty much just like we tried our ideas for the Razer and then you know this game will just go first pick
[04:49:54] because we don't want to lose the same pair of four times overall.
[04:49:56] So, well, like four games and we're like, yes.
[04:49:59] Yeah, that's super valid.
[04:50:00] And the last question I have is when it came to those last phases
[04:50:03] of vans, you guys taking up the storm and the queen,
[04:50:05] he's been a lot of time thinking about what to pick up
[04:50:07] and what to ban, how hard was it to draft against it,
[04:50:10] knowing that Nisha could pick a lot of different heroes in the mid.
[04:50:14] Yeah, I mean, I think generally,
[04:50:17] Malvin's like, he's very good, because he picks his heroes
[04:50:20] and it doesn't matter what to counter him with.
[04:50:22] So honestly, for us a lot of the time, it's like,
[04:50:24] oh, which heroes, we can leave it all,
[04:50:27] but we need to ban something.
[04:50:28] So I think this is sort of one of the situations
[04:50:30] where we still have to ban something,
[04:50:31] but I think he would've been happy playing these most
[04:50:33] of the main most storm, because nature's so good on storm,
[04:50:36] but like, you know, we ban that first.
[04:50:38] Yeah, those are the reason for, look,
[04:50:39] I think you so much for joining me, good luck today,
[04:50:41] and of course in this game, but what if I were to write?
[04:50:43] Now, I'll best of five continues,
[04:50:45] and we're gonna jump into game number four.
[04:50:52] the
[04:51:07] game full time ladies and gentlemen it between team liquid and falcons
[04:51:08] of what do you think this is time around we're getting a bit of a
[04:51:11] one of the one I never read here I write the doom coming in here for this game for
[04:51:16] I'm looking for a little while is going to be able to do with it
[04:51:18] that first down with the tournament unless I'm really bad
[04:51:22] at using these stat websites, which usually I am,
[04:51:24] but I think I actually see that right.
[04:51:26] And honestly, I don't really see Doom that much anymore.
[04:51:29] I'm curious to see how this is going to go down.
[04:51:31] Look, the panel is mentioned, we used to see Doom
[04:51:33] in Erson.
[04:51:33] These two heroes kind of play versus each other a lot
[04:51:35] and it becomes this talking of each other.
[04:51:37] You know how they like, he braids it to throw the Doom,
[04:51:39] the other one spams, you know,
[04:51:40] you're trying to bathe the in-range
[04:51:41] and then find the Doom situation.
[04:51:43] So let's say who's going to end up winning that one?
[04:51:45] Because overall, I would say, yeah, liquid draft.
[04:51:47] It looks very strong, very cohesive.
[04:51:49] Last two times, they made a work around the Razor.
[04:51:53] This time, let's see if they can do it around a very strong hero
[04:51:57] in terms of being able to get ages and get the ball rolling again.
[04:52:00] Liquid again, looking like a fast-paced draft to see Falcons.
[04:52:03] If they can kind of break the mold with their own approach.
[04:52:07] Similar style of heroes, you know,
[04:52:08] still very, mostly come from across the board for Falcons.
[04:52:11] Are they going to be able to, yeah, play versus that,
[04:52:14] that liquid steam roll that we've been seeing?
[04:52:16] because they've just been really impressive with how fast it played.
[04:52:19] Absolutely.
[04:52:20] And I guess the question is,
[04:52:22] now, why do you think they did go for the Doom?
[04:52:25] Is, you know, the use of the Doom?
[04:52:26] You're talking about this game, you think it's just a case of,
[04:52:29] well, yeah, we can't get the regular as this tries them in different.
[04:52:33] Yeah, I think that amongst maybe he's,
[04:52:36] I maybe there's something awesome about what the true story of the Doom is
[04:52:38] that they were talking about about, okay, the Doom counters the niche of hero.
[04:52:42] Maybe that's why it's good, but I just didn't see the options.
[04:52:44] He was pretty limited on the most boxy.
[04:52:49] So if I can chase him down here,
[04:52:53] that should be fine.
[04:52:54] No, no, no, no, no, no,
[04:52:55] further lock down on Kat,
[04:52:56] she had ready to go.
[04:52:57] They'll smite back up their falcons.
[04:52:59] A smok on smoke.
[04:53:01] No plug-in needs were used, right?
[04:53:02] I don't think they actually ended up throwing one there either.
[04:53:04] So, yeah, looks like he still has it.
[04:53:09] Oh, he did snaking throwing.
[04:53:10] Actually, wouldn't sure.
[04:53:11] Maybe they got in the tree.
[04:53:12] Yeah, I've set a tree to the tree.
[04:53:13] Yeah, I trees through one, okay.
[04:53:14] So they have one, what do you use on the side of Falcons?
[04:53:21] I just, is he gonna risk trying to get this bouncy?
[04:53:24] It's gonna try, but don't make some maintain control of it.
[04:53:27] So just two to start with the bouncy's.
[04:53:30] Let's see how many, let's make my chips go down.
[04:53:32] So it's at this top lane then with a more on the doom.
[04:53:35] How does lane sort of look in?
[04:53:37] Because I feel like this has to do with your care.
[04:53:38] It could be a pretty nasty duo to go up against.
[04:53:40] Yeah, I'm and tofu on right tofu plate.
[04:53:44] It's a daily one that you care on the landing phase that last and it could be it's not into that disaster to the lane.
[04:53:49] I think the ringmaster is pretty good at training versus your care on fact because you've got that distance.
[04:53:53] You've got that poke versus him, but yeah, this this is extremely potent lane and I don't know what to do and contributes.
[04:54:02] Well, lives on a mar really to see how he can make this era work and a sort of a period where not a lot of teams are wanting to try and make it happen.
[04:54:10] I thought around the other side of course, I saw a much more standard offline
[04:54:14] up. We've seen this here already.
[04:54:15] Show it face this series. We'll see what I was able to do with it.
[04:54:17] This game. I'd say both carries are set up to us in success in terms of
[04:54:21] leaning. Well, the Earth's first home should be pretty sweet.
[04:54:24] And then a clinks tree versus a Mars post clockwork should be pretty
[04:54:29] incredible for the side of Falcons. The only way that something
[04:54:32] happens bottom is if boxy does some unbelievable cog bouncing.
[04:54:35] Otherwise, it should just be a pretty free lane for skin.
[04:54:38] And yes, you know, you showed us a pretty good stuff on the clock soon.
[04:54:42] It has a pretty good thing from folks here.
[04:54:45] Just in case, you know, you got to say, because I don't know, sometimes playing the
[04:54:49] cognitive game, you know, you just lose them in your game pretty hard.
[04:54:53] I'm what you make the mid lane match up.
[04:54:56] I'm more in on this classic sanking this time instead of the primal, I've against
[04:54:59] me showing a less once more of the series.
[04:55:01] I don't think, I mean, sanking loses one of these anything in the mid lane.
[04:55:05] Maybe like they were saying storm because they wanted those or maybe the queen, but I think
[04:55:08] This one he'll lose the lane perhaps slightly and then he'll recover.
[04:55:11] There's always going to be that recovery outlip from ringmaster stacks or just doing what he does
[04:55:15] as the sinking and pulling creep waves.
[04:55:20] The knee shot is going to be full free farm and we saw it honestly almost every single
[04:55:24] knee shot has popped off.
[04:55:25] You knew the loss.
[04:55:28] Obviously, I had that solid self in the lane and sure in the one game wasn't able to do
[04:55:33] enough to take the the win, but still had pretty good impact in the early to make
[04:55:37] game off the back of that very good outcome from the mid-matchup against Maureen.
[04:55:42] That's it for doom, right? That's what I was making. Maybe if the doom has a different
[04:55:45] type of effect, if that's the other reason why they wanted it, sure it's not about
[04:55:48] maybe the air system about doom is an issue here, I'll be mentioning before.
[04:55:52] Yeah, well, he's saying.
[04:55:55] If we're talking about the safety of Falcons, we obviously have to speed it on the clanks
[04:55:59] earlier this series. It's just a luck aesthetic game form on the clanks, like, or, again,
[04:56:04] Another way is that liquid can sort of collapse onto him in the fight, make it very
[04:56:08] off, as heated to turn up to early skirmishes.
[04:56:11] For me, it looks better because he's got saves.
[04:56:12] He's got two defensive supports to be off the protect him.
[04:56:14] Last one I was, I'm very worried because if you just get run at it, the versus like clock
[04:56:18] work and raise the roll down without anyone to get you out, you're just kind of screwed.
[04:56:21] This one, there's a Mars that can be annoying for a sim, but then there's going to be a box
[04:56:24] that can counter, so snaking.
[04:56:27] This is early.
[04:56:28] Coming in with a wrap around, should be able to set them up for first blood hit.
[04:56:31] I think it's going to get chased down by a mar.
[04:56:36] And we'll slowly burn out.
[04:56:37] So mar gets the first but that thanks to the quick rotation
[04:56:40] from snaking to show up and make sure they can outnumber
[04:56:43] the safe lane of liquid.
[04:56:47] Kills always matter, especially in a ringmaster lane.
[04:56:49] It gets a strong bentonic.
[04:56:52] We'll have that to be able to keep his doom alive potentially,
[04:56:54] play around versus the Earth's.
[04:56:56] This hero always has potential for a good game.
[04:56:58] I'd love to see ringmaster.
[04:56:59] I want to see it a lot more.
[04:57:01] I'm trying to turn on towards him over, yeah, difficult when he's got the backup he's just saved from credit on the ringmaster, and of course the potential to the living armour,
[04:57:09] it will be coming in from snanky.
[04:57:11] Super difficult really for liquid to push for kills in this lane.
[04:57:15] I've got across the board right, I feel like he's going to be a bit more of a slower start this time around,
[04:57:19] at least in terms of deaths in the landing stage.
[04:57:22] Sadly, even though we didn't have like a 50 kill game at the 20 minute mark, I don't know exactly.
[04:57:26] This is going to be that one.
[04:57:28] Bottom is, every time he steps up,
[04:57:30] I mean, play versus Trey is so hard in this patch, unless you have, like, a Jekiral, Phoenix, or some of these heroes that can actually trade, or, you know, anything like this, this, you know, just trade, super effectively versus most.
[04:57:44] Yeah, very difficult for Bulk's, it's just sort of how to look in on the line.
[04:57:48] Yeah, because even if you want to do your cog pushback, I'm actually, I didn't really think about this entirely, but, you know, it's harder because you get rooted.
[04:57:55] You pop the card down, he roots you with the leech seed,
[04:57:58] and then you don't actually get to ball-kenders once as you want to.
[04:58:01] On top of that, we're seeing them trying to trade in some a mob,
[04:58:05] but each time a long career, we're able to turn,
[04:58:07] they're just doing more damage between the two of them
[04:58:09] as opposed to what Liquid confront Falken's off-lan.
[04:58:13] They're living armors adding up to be honest.
[04:58:15] It's stopping some decent damage.
[04:58:16] It's getting a lot of swipes.
[04:58:18] I mean, they're pushing for this kill, they'll get it.
[04:58:21] They get the kill, but it does cost them a case life.
[04:58:24] I mean, it's going to mean the crit gets the double on the clean up, so Falcons
[04:58:31] they're happy with that one.
[04:58:32] And Liquid really pushing their limits to try and take them all down.
[04:58:36] It costs them pretty heavily fogged, and there's going to be this lose life coming in as well.
[04:58:41] I'll crit can hold this here from our coming back in.
[04:58:43] And there you're Falcons, Falcons, they'll say, happily.
[04:58:47] You're going to do that again, Liquid.
[04:58:49] Try and run it up on a kill him again.
[04:58:51] He's going to come out on top, still.
[04:58:53] And that's why I was mentioning, you know, this, the kill that they got earlier, the strong
[04:58:56] man-tonic, right?
[04:58:57] I'm already getting chewed up.
[04:58:59] That was literally the difference maker in terms of damage, even getting the cloak
[04:59:02] or a right before the fight happened.
[04:59:04] All these little things do matter in terms of being able to trade, get trades and, but
[04:59:07] do I'm getting trades versus Ersa, something perhaps have been unexpected?
[04:59:11] The Mars is going to be very happy.
[04:59:12] Yeah, no look was going to be almost a much more careful about how they try and push
[04:59:16] for a kill like that again.
[04:59:17] If they push for a kill at all now, between the two of them, he should.
[04:59:21] We'll find that.
[04:59:22] looking in the mid lane, Malreen is actually a habit in terms of net worth.
[04:59:26] Well, barely able to stop me, she's getting that bad.
[04:59:28] Couldn't quite get the denying time, even with the 10, the beast set up.
[04:59:32] Boughty?
[04:59:33] He's an a lot of trouble, unless you can find the denied to Roe,
[04:59:36] she's going to try into the pet.
[04:59:39] But, uh, if they'll get him anyway,
[04:59:41] snaking nicely able to tank the Roe,
[04:59:43] she's dead, so Boughty wasn't able to get the aggro,
[04:59:46] Malreen, able to pick up a freebie.
[04:59:49] These small moves, the falcons, they're doing in terms of the lane,
[04:59:51] They're doing fantastic, all three lanes are looking really, really good.
[04:59:55] The Doom is in the same network as the Ersa, the clanks is free farming, and the
[04:59:58] sanking is slightly ahead of the lush.
[05:00:00] Nisha is looking to accelerate and move, has hits 7, has an arcane rune.
[05:00:04] Maybe once the contest around that wisdom.
[05:00:10] I see if he gets away with this, it's not too easy to remove.
[05:00:16] That's a lot of damage.
[05:00:17] They're going to try.
[05:00:20] What's your CP is coming in the immediate reaction
[05:00:22] of course coming through from Falton's.
[05:00:25] And the chance that the opponent set up on to Nisha.
[05:00:27] Nisha is gone.
[05:00:28] We'll see back up with a whiff and crit holding back
[05:00:30] that two of them.
[05:00:32] Ice barf as well.
[05:00:33] Blue give time for Liquid to pick up a whiff and maybe
[05:00:36] to get kills actually.
[05:00:36] I'm off.
[05:00:37] Pretty low.
[05:00:37] This wants to stacking up.
[05:00:39] So if it's going to be out of finish up,
[05:00:40] and more.
[05:00:41] Maryn also taking down low.
[05:00:42] We'll let the bar strike away.
[05:00:43] So whilst they do lose Nisha,
[05:00:45] he kind of gets the job done.
[05:00:47] make space for liquid.
[05:00:48] To strike that wisdom and on top of that kind of capability to get
[05:00:53] Mick in both of some kills.
[05:00:55] So, you should die in the, he'll take that.
[05:00:59] They get both.
[05:01:00] Pretty important to support since we mentioned that honestly liquid supports were pretty
[05:01:03] beast mode.
[05:01:04] The two games in their victory.
[05:01:05] They're off to a good start.
[05:01:06] At least in terms of levels level five on tofu, clockwork also, now four in change.
[05:01:11] the
[05:01:15] back to the mid now
[05:01:18] rn
[05:01:19] is thinking about the upset up on the ship
[05:01:21] and the ship
[05:01:22] is fine for way
[05:01:24] for us on the side was coming in for snaking maroon will be able to go across and get the
[05:01:28] history picked up
[05:01:29] and refrounded from boxy but quick whip coming in from print stops boxy
[05:01:33] from getting up to snaking
[05:01:34] is to the transfer in down for people in the river maroon
[05:01:38] Couldn't quite get the damage to him, and now he's got it ready. He might just take out my goodness. He'll live
[05:01:44] But he has to run right away from all of this. Couldn't quite get away with that aggressive play with the haste friend will at least live
[05:01:51] No, I'd like with yeah, they don't get in here, but I'm losing anyone themselves there
[05:01:58] Oh, it's wild. I mean, they're both just honestly playing with murder
[05:02:01] I plan to fire
[05:02:02] Let's play the fire just dancing around each other the haste to try to get into the
[05:02:06] lish. Can't quite finish off the jikir on the two supports we're mentioning. This is the
[05:02:10] pace that liquid likes to set. Falcon's how are they going to react? I'm going to bring over
[05:02:13] snaking. Start the push. Good responses. Yeah. I'm going to poke both scenes just sort of
[05:02:20] patterned to support. It's just constantly moving up and down the map right now. Trying to
[05:02:25] match one another. So if we try to take away a bit of the stack, please pretty low.
[05:02:28] My orange is going to be able to get him with the fire strike.
[05:02:30] So I'm just going to get taken down for that one.
[05:02:36] I'm already having a better game than I thought.
[05:02:38] Also, level 7 already has got phase.
[05:02:41] I'm almost 7.
[05:02:42] It's keeping that worth pretty good.
[05:02:44] I think this one looks like it's going to be the most even
[05:02:46] one in terms of coming out of the lanes with any explosive.
[05:02:49] Focusing with a slight gold lead.
[05:02:52] The liquid does have great ways to fight into this line up
[05:02:54] with their heavy teamfight.
[05:02:55] Also.
[05:02:56] Yep.
[05:02:57] have a good goal.
[05:02:58] Right.
[05:02:59] Between sort of the Mars, the clock were a lot of ways to get on top of some of these
[05:03:02] cores.
[05:03:04] Well, teams have a good information gathering also to the one thing that I was the first
[05:03:09] game.
[05:03:10] When the name was playing tree, I feel like they won the pretty crucial fight because
[05:03:13] of vision.
[05:03:14] There's going to always be this clockwork to counteract vision, too, which is a pretty
[05:03:16] big deal.
[05:03:17] Same.
[05:03:18] Don't drop your ring up, friend.
[05:03:20] I just want to quick jobs to get a kill with me, sure around.
[05:03:25] they could sort of turn, that was the quick support tail-in,
[05:03:27] so it's out of which as well.
[05:03:29] Botsie?
[05:03:30] Denies away the Invis from Mal Arena as well.
[05:03:32] Nice play.
[05:03:34] I'm keeps him good in for as well.
[05:03:36] I'll never have a sentry down there as well,
[05:03:37] after Mal Arena tried to get the hit in one's way.
[05:03:40] Tower in the mid is getting pressured, though,
[05:03:41] so liquid off, they take the tail-one down,
[05:03:44] bottom there, wanna swing back over the wall to the mid.
[05:03:46] The doom thing happened, go the way that I was talking about.
[05:03:49] He's popfaking the enrage, he did get hit
[05:03:51] to pop the enrage, so there's 50 seconds.
[05:03:52] I'm all right, might look for a doom.
[05:03:54] I know they're gonna do this. It's gonna happen. He's headed back over. I mean, you're right. He's gonna try for it
[05:04:00] Not quite happy there was some of the distance here. I didn't want to go for it now. Maybe I just
[05:04:04] Tying with him. He's keeping the mic on the edge. He's you're trailing him away for this late
[05:04:09] Look how speedy is. I've actually played versus these dooms a couple times recently in his patch. No, I put a couple times
[05:04:15] Cobalt cup quick in wind laced and the speed or a with what knee so look. He's gonna be like 550 move speed
[05:04:21] I'm on the lug fights.
[05:04:23] Do more like zoom.
[05:04:24] Am I right for?
[05:04:25] Oh my god.
[05:04:26] Anyway, now to the bottom.
[05:04:28] I love that one.
[05:04:29] Yup.
[05:04:30] Ace.
[05:04:31] There's gonna have a arena back in 20 seconds.
[05:04:33] We'll see if they want to join forces with me again to go for that quick kill down bottom.
[05:04:37] I'm just getting time to finish up his blink dagger.
[05:04:41] He wants to contest or they're going to just go for a tower push.
[05:04:44] Looks like the call is finished off mid tower.
[05:04:46] I mean, if I were going to, I think they could smoke up around this blink.
[05:04:49] It's gonna be a climbing that they could be prepared for the push it for the tier one in the main
[05:04:54] Boardification will come out as well as the living armus. You're just gonna start setting up the defense though
[05:04:58] They don't want to give away the tier one meant for free
[05:05:00] I'll make sure the quicks gonna have to come back later really work for this and yeah
[05:05:04] This is my rein heading back to base
[05:05:06] He lit up
[05:05:07] Link at the ready
[05:05:09] See the liquid I'm ready for this one. I think liquid it and it's early now is but I think at some point
[05:05:15] they're going to need some like four stabs of wasted disengage and re-engage into teamflights
[05:05:19] because I think this lash, especially with this tanking having the blinker now, is in a dangerous spot
[05:05:22] they just at least enter on top of the lash right now there's not really a way the liquid can stop it
[05:05:26] I'm not a- they- they- they- they- they- they get that sort of jump
[05:05:28] like an eight to kill
[05:05:29] smart is gonna get to spell the- don't really want to just go for a bulk seat
[05:05:34] though they want the big kill
[05:05:37] I'm not gonna get it now that
[05:05:40] yes, you're playing for the bossy
[05:05:42] clearing the way if you put- put some stuff to that whole sort of blink reveal the Maori
[05:05:45] he wanted to try and hit Liquid Hub with.
[05:05:47] He's done this, honestly, I pick multiple times throughout this series.
[05:05:50] I didn't really point all them out, but just standing in the spots that he expects the smoke movements and tanking ganks or just revealing it.
[05:05:56] So right there.
[05:05:57] At least reveals some of it.
[05:05:59] Gives an issue.
[05:06:01] Good opportunity to finish majority of this stack. I don't know if you can actually finish it.
[05:06:04] I'm not going to go to the size for this.
[05:06:07] No, it necessarily the big kill they hope for, but it is a kill, but might allow, you know,
[05:06:12] They can sort of turn into a tier 1 being taken on the top lane.
[05:06:15] So they'll still knock off an outbound.
[05:06:17] If Alcans is not hit buildings, that's great whatsoever.
[05:06:20] It takes time.
[05:06:21] Oh, it takes a good amount of time.
[05:06:23] They want kills into tower as well.
[05:06:25] On this side of Liquid, they can force buildings a lot easier with the E-Dicton, the G-Kiro.
[05:06:28] Oh, they want to set up on a ice bomb.
[05:06:30] They can't spread the queen gate.
[05:06:32] Snaking's got the set up here with the upper pro for dropping a arena,
[05:06:35] but the ring's been thrown down over the wheel.
[05:06:38] As the backup comes through,
[05:06:39] comes through, marries him with the stun, nice moves there through the twin gate and just
[05:06:43] against the power of the tree right, you know, you have snaking just chasing him down,
[05:06:47] you know, all the info having to set up, not allowed to be done there, liquid.
[05:06:50] They are around the twin gate on the other side.
[05:06:52] We'll see if they want to try for something, maybe considering if someone would maybe
[05:06:56] come back through the gate, but it's not going to be the case.
[05:06:58] They'll smoke up now, liquid.
[05:07:00] Listen, they might want to try and sort of beat around this top push, at least both of this
[05:07:04] fight around the wisdom.
[05:07:05] Yeah, see if they can go for the second sort of chance to take the two wisdoms.
[05:07:08] How much of Falcon's going to be bringing over
[05:07:10] and preparation for this?
[05:07:12] If liquid can get the initiation,
[05:07:14] every boating, whichever team gets initiation,
[05:07:16] is going to be super strong.
[05:07:17] There's no epi though, so perhaps Falcon's
[05:07:18] maybe a little bit weaker, they are looking to come though.
[05:07:20] I don't know if it's a set of ones full of mouth.
[05:07:22] It's got a little bit of HP to get pretty.
[05:07:24] We'll drop the damn down automation.
[05:07:26] I'll reach him with a three-mile bar strike for the Mars Guard.
[05:07:28] And Nisha's going to have the freedom
[05:07:30] to sort of back out, say, feel way from the fight.
[05:07:32] Liquid, they'll get the wisdom.
[05:07:34] It's going to be a lot going to be successful if
[05:07:37] left. The box sees the borrower strides back off
[05:07:40] court out, but Nick Kay, he's well on his way back to
[05:07:43] safety over to the other side of the map. Nick
[05:07:45] quit hit these timings, getting those steals.
[05:07:50] That's how the, also looks to be left behind.
[05:07:53] Can maybe make Maureen work for this one or.
[05:07:56] I'll see how much they want to try and chase him into
[05:07:57] the trees with the three of them. You know, they want this
[05:07:59] kill. He's getting the south off the road so.
[05:08:02] Definitely make him a work for that little extra.
[05:08:04] a nice little three-man ice bar for all it's off the mark, tofu, well finally full, but it takes time.
[05:08:11] And that means that I'm actually mean more mid.
[05:08:14] They actually get another big kill falcons with the two of them.
[05:08:17] They get the jump and take down the ship.
[05:08:19] So, boss, the three of them are chasing top.
[05:08:21] The other two, they had the bigger kill, sort it in the mid lane.
[05:08:24] I'm R and Cret.
[05:08:26] And Liquid might be getting these wisdoms, right? I think both times.
[05:08:29] But the experience now with those kills ends of favoring falcons.
[05:08:32] They're just prepared for the movement just a little bit better in terms of how they wrap around there.
[05:08:37] We saw if you know a couple of them to disengage initially, they get caught afterwards from the chase forward.
[05:08:41] If that kill, I need to admit also hurts a lot.
[05:08:44] Slow down that momentum zero and two on the creeps timing.
[05:08:49] I mean, it does feel like you're so far.
[05:08:51] Yeah, from a mar on the doom, it's looking pretty good, right?
[05:08:53] He's absolutely having him past it.
[05:08:55] And these values stages, they're just going to get called super low there in the tree line.
[05:08:59] I'll tell you, up in the top three net worth,
[05:09:02] falkens that got all cores in prime position on the farm.
[05:09:07] You know, as a doom, you took the nature to the hero, right?
[05:09:10] That farm can really get out of hand pretty soon.
[05:09:12] He's going to look for the speedcably next off to the phase drums.
[05:09:15] Liquid, they've really got a considerable timing.
[05:09:18] Looks like they want to try and go for falkens aggressively at this point.
[05:09:22] They don't really want to let this game slow down liquid.
[05:09:25] They want to utilize Ace.
[05:09:26] But they see isn't to a sanking who can't throw strike out of the arena if not caught.
[05:09:33] I'm not sure if there's a power push, but Falcon is ready.
[05:09:37] That piece is at the ready almost level 12 on the arena as well.
[05:09:40] The tower is getting healed all that downtime.
[05:09:42] The tree factor is starting to kick and also appealing.
[05:09:48] Not difficult. Yeah, not easy.
[05:09:49] I feel liquid to push into this and the difficulty turning up when
[05:09:53] Maureys just sitting here in the mid, with the sandstorm ready to hold off the push
[05:09:57] that they just can't really make that sort of go right now, liquid.
[05:10:00] So these sort of plays from Falcons, this sort of presents from them,
[05:10:04] it's slowing down the game and it's definitely feeling like that's how the liquid
[05:10:08] a lot more than it's like in Falcons, Tom.
[05:10:10] Great. I mean, look at this game from the skater. He's getting to do whatever he wants.
[05:10:14] A complete free play scheme. He's top net worth and it's definitely concerns at least
[05:10:18] for Lashes as well. Right, we're very mentioned the one concern for the Lash in terms of the
[05:10:21] the api and the burst damage,
[05:10:23] the hard physical damage
[05:10:24] that the clanks can turn it out now.
[05:10:25] There's the less, that's what the Hats the play against.
[05:10:28] A bar?
[05:10:29] He's foundation.
[05:10:31] Shield run, well, protect though.
[05:10:34] So that is a doom, just wasted.
[05:10:38] I feel with that, liquid, I would imagine they
[05:10:40] wanted to do something to do.
[05:10:41] I don't want anyone to pull down.
[05:10:43] I mean, again, we saw them try around the mid.
[05:10:45] It does feel like they got to get a scene
[05:10:47] and get this arena off the tune and see
[05:10:48] he's gonna try for a half.
[05:10:49] is back up from the side.
[05:10:51] They get the job crew with the
[05:10:52] epic in the brush like the wheels
[05:10:53] going to get laid down as well
[05:10:54] as they first on to the
[05:10:55] close nation.
[05:10:56] You'll try to see P.L.
[05:10:58] Mars he'll succeed but that
[05:10:59] means niches left on his own.
[05:11:01] That's the truth.
[05:11:02] To try and set something up with
[05:11:03] the arena it goes horribly wrong
[05:11:05] for it.
[05:11:06] It was just with the two of them.
[05:11:07] They didn't have their supports
[05:11:08] at all.
[05:11:09] No, Eris.
[05:11:09] So they go for this play right
[05:11:11] next to the tower.
[05:11:12] That field.
[05:11:13] That maybe says a tale of how
[05:11:14] liquid's field about the game.
[05:11:15] Maybe he feels forced to do
[05:11:16] something because the way
[05:11:18] Falcons is splitting them up. Falcons is getting their timings. BKB's done, Agatha is
[05:11:22] double leap from Malrin. That's a close one to hit pretty nicely.
[05:11:26] It's at 100 for me, I'm sorry.
[05:11:30] I'm foot damage for a mid-range. It's going to flow as the hands of Mika.
[05:11:34] I mean, does he want to get emballed? Yeah, well, what you mean, my half-hole is being
[05:11:37] met by him. I feel like they need that extra bit of damage from the Navi-Az Blink.
[05:11:42] Like he was pretty impactful when he could do it with the Wind Ranger to bring the
[05:11:45] game together. I think this might be one of those in Mika's start-husts.
[05:11:47] start to do that heavy lifting or has to.
[05:11:52] I think I've got to put this. This is a timing where a still doesn't have to
[05:11:56] run it back online yet 30 seconds.
[05:12:03] I'll quit moments for liquid. Falcon is just being able to play the game
[05:12:07] everything what get that shard now for things to even more damage follow up
[05:12:11] snaking does you have his shard he does some more scouting that they're
[05:12:13] going to have available to see when liquid split up.
[05:12:16] see what the go is going to be is that the blink for ace it's a shard. Okay, so looking for a double pen looking for some extra damage
[05:12:26] You get that set up. They have pretty excellent follow up right from tofu for niche. Lots of ways to kind of just air we locked down multiple heroes if they get caught in the combat
[05:12:35] I'm just worried if they don't see mal-reen it he might just kill them all. That's true. He is always going to be ready with accounts to play and especially
[05:12:43] He has what three three melee heroes on top of that. You have the less right. You kind of also wants to be in the front of the fight
[05:12:50] So there's it's like I'm gonna be a lot about the chimpanzees
[05:12:53] Well, you're gonna be able to line up three four map bar strikes. Yeah, I'm hiring he's gonna be looking for those and he will find them
[05:12:59] They don't have a okay they have a glimmer at least so top we does have one thing to negate some that but no pipe
[05:13:04] Yeah, so this tanking up he's gonna be in very impactful and yeah
[05:13:06] There's the agonist on so on top of that even more buffed up
[05:13:09] He could be stunned for the doom too
[05:13:11] Unless they anymore has a safe that's the thing is to look at they don't have a safe
[05:13:15] So anyone who gets caught by any of this
[05:13:17] Falcons always will have that next your better safe two different forms of it with living armor if you
[05:13:22] And I don't yes, super difficult to get out of the fight if they get jumped and
[05:13:25] Very difficult to get into a fight get stuck in get the kills and get everyone out alive and you're liquid not an easy time of the game for them
[05:13:34] Looks like they might have to sack the tormentor
[05:14:06] They tried, they really tried to bring that squad there, but just falcons there with
[05:14:12] leaders.
[05:14:13] Just the heroes, just with the numbers or just the healing.
[05:14:15] I mean, they just keep healing it.
[05:14:16] I've seen the Trudy Armor now five, six times on it.
[05:14:21] The Maristone, they feel very strong, limited damage to bring him down, just going to
[05:14:25] be really that Ursa, he's afraid of with this build.
[05:14:28] Now, and he just knows when he stands in that sort of position, the liquid are always
[05:14:31] going to be double guessing now whether or not they can go on it, because they have
[05:14:35] to have full information on Murray's position, as you say,
[05:14:38] because anytime this year, he'll hear a show like that.
[05:14:39] They've got a shoe in that the sankings ready to jump
[05:14:41] in behind him.
[05:14:42] Murray, ready to lead the charge on the aggressor.
[05:14:44] Just jumping onto tofu, tofu, tofu.
[05:14:48] We'll be able to turn with the ice path.
[05:14:51] It's time round.
[05:14:51] They get one to go flu aggressive on towards him.
[05:14:53] Maybe a mark and indeed chase down and finish the job off.
[05:14:56] He'll get it.
[05:14:57] And indeed tofu looks to be in trouble.
[05:14:59] You're not a healer, I'll be able to load assist,
[05:15:01] but a mark is still running down, finish off the job,
[05:15:04] and take tofu out with obviously without having to expand anything crazy, still
[05:15:08] as the doom ready to go for the next play.
[05:15:10] Perhaps Liquid has to just, I mean, I want to say like wait for BKB on her, so I guess
[05:15:15] that's going to be the cockpit then. I'm, I'm, I'm my worry, isn't he sure?
[05:15:18] Honestly, I just don't know how he protects himself in this fight versus so much overwhelming damage
[05:15:21] without a save. Balkans getting pretty solid control this game now.
[05:15:27] Yep, and there's another one of those objectives that you say, huh, it's the most
[05:15:30] when you're taking it against the team that has the us.
[05:15:35] Yes, Alainah, not getting the road shit,
[05:15:36] as Falcons move into the pit.
[05:15:39] And I say, just ship me there.
[05:15:40] I mean, Boksy's looking for an angle
[05:15:41] to maybe go for a steal.
[05:15:43] But Falcons, they're on it, and they're ready to chase them out.
[05:15:47] They're hunting him.
[05:15:48] We've never tried to find him, but Boksy, well aware,
[05:15:51] gets the position.
[05:15:52] Yes, it's the fact that denying the Earth so they
[05:15:54] just put the nine to Earth so they just
[05:15:55] versus the doom, too, because ages tend to be like
[05:15:58] this kind of pseudo counter versus some of these long
[05:16:00] and go to the ball.
[05:16:01] There's a gutter.
[05:16:02] Yes, get up.
[05:16:03] Taste the ages.
[05:16:04] That one sort of vulnerability, you know, it's an easy, incredibly far right now.
[05:16:08] But maybe if they were able to jump, clinks in some of the situations, they can get
[05:16:11] that kill, have a chance of the fight.
[05:16:13] Now, it's going to have that second life.
[05:16:15] Yeah, it's going to be very interesting to see how liquid moves on from this point.
[05:16:18] They're going to pick up the blink.
[05:16:20] They're getting some of these next big items to finish up.
[05:16:22] Yashikai had done on Nisha.
[05:16:24] But when will they feel confident enough to bring together the sort of these item
[05:16:30] pickups and try and take a team fight against Falcons because those last few situations
[05:16:34] are definitely going to shake in the mupp a bit and force them to reconsider how they want
[05:16:38] to move on and this game.
[05:16:39] Yeah, is it going to be this?
[05:16:40] Where we said the BKB for her stuff?
[05:16:42] It's scouted.
[05:16:43] They see it.
[05:16:44] They have this workout and staking and speaking of snaking.
[05:16:45] Fines are quick.
[05:16:46] Easy killer.
[05:16:47] Boxing.
[05:16:48] They identify.
[05:16:49] They see Mickie's items.
[05:16:51] This is looking challenging for liquid.
[05:16:54] Just difficult to see how they take any fights versus the way that Falcons is playing.
[05:16:58] He's I can start a kick.
[05:16:59] I'm we're in an image too.
[05:17:00] Mowering gets the set up.
[05:17:02] I have to pull up.
[05:17:03] We'll get the chance to get the use off.
[05:17:05] And now that she's done with the arena,
[05:17:07] looks up at us through Crit.
[05:17:08] The Brink quit down.
[05:17:10] Mick A. He's over the walls,
[05:17:11] Mowering, but the barricades back up.
[05:17:12] Mick is going to continue to try chasing down.
[05:17:15] Come, Mowering, get away from us.
[05:17:16] You can't, and he's going back up.
[05:17:18] Skidder is snaking tight up.
[05:17:19] So Mick A has got to get on the retreat.
[05:17:21] Get Galimicate, Tim, but the dust is out.
[05:17:23] Mowering's considering going in for the jump.
[05:17:25] Look at the stunt off.
[05:17:26] by time for a mile now to turn up as well,
[05:17:28] though if you use the cogs to hold back the chase,
[05:17:31] and my trying is best to get through the cogs,
[05:17:32] it looks that the cogs will be enough
[05:17:34] to stop at least anyone else on liquid getting doomed.
[05:17:37] I mean, it's sort of again,
[05:17:39] these sort of desperate miners right there,
[05:17:40] you know, Ace is trying to throw up their arena,
[05:17:42] see if he can get something in return,
[05:17:43] still costing him his life,
[05:17:45] it's still not exactly what liquids open for,
[05:17:47] and what they need at this point.
[05:17:50] Taking.
[05:17:51] Let's see.
[05:17:53] Let's go from boxy.
[05:17:54] Some of the support kill.
[05:17:57] And McCay is going to be doing his best this game to sort of try and take this game on his shoulders.
[05:18:04] Looking for the bashing next to the BKB.
[05:18:07] It's got a pretty much play.
[05:18:09] You can play this game perfectly.
[05:18:10] He's just getting time.
[05:18:11] I think that's what they're making that call for the BKBs.
[05:18:13] He's got that 3D build and then he's going back to the BKB next.
[05:18:16] They will find Boxy.
[05:18:17] So some pick offs here.
[05:18:18] A lot of supports getting picked until those items are coming.
[05:18:21] So, okay, I look at what's going to be BKB for Nisha, BKB Ersa, and then I mean BKB Mars, they might
[05:18:27] have to wait for that one and maybe go to fight with just the double BKBs, but it isn't
[05:18:31] to the stages.
[05:18:32] And Falkens, that next time it's for skaters about to be done in a Mart is a very scary
[05:18:38] frontliner.
[05:18:39] He's not something to really just, you can't just walk over him by any means.
[05:18:42] No.
[05:18:43] Even with the BKBs right now, these BKBs aren't going to be an absolute sort of chance
[05:18:47] to guarantee survival in these teamfights.
[05:18:51] It's expedient to be crazy sort of moves from liquid to get that jump up the start of the fight.
[05:18:57] On the back lines.
[05:18:59] Boxy?
[05:19:00] Think she's being sneaky, but there's actually a word right on top of them.
[05:19:03] I'm off.
[05:19:04] Deep is a bit of a common end.
[05:19:06] So you have to the side, snaking.
[05:19:09] Stop to the, deep of tofu.
[05:19:11] Almost back to the jacquero.
[05:19:13] Still the rest of it could have pretty close by.
[05:19:15] to make the jump over to wall saking. Should be able to bring in down the swipe stack
[05:19:19] up to get the kill and the niches also have to run crowd at the side of the face.
[05:19:23] The kill up to supports.
[05:19:25] And the quid.
[05:19:27] With everything going down as it is, they probably take that as this point right.
[05:19:31] Sure they lose it again, but getting to who kills even if it is just the two support.
[05:19:35] At least sort of slows down the, you know, the opportunity to fail because getting
[05:19:39] something done with this age is unclinped for a little longer.
[05:19:42] You also have a moment now when one is response if you want to,
[05:19:45] do you want to and Fee were used on him?
[05:19:48] They did use both of them.
[05:19:49] So if they want to try to go for risky play, isn't it ages?
[05:19:52] They can try for something.
[05:19:58] Just will Falcons give him that opportunity,
[05:20:00] none of that they used those cooldowns.
[05:20:01] Knowing Falcons don't pry back up, play pretty cautious.
[05:20:04] So let's see if Liquid does want to go for that on play that those cooldowns are used.
[05:20:07] They are gathering a smug.
[05:20:09] Smoke scan picks up here from Boksy.
[05:20:12] You need a gem though. Did they buy one?
[05:20:16] They did. Okay, I was about to say because their planvers is true. You don't know where he has all this annoyingness laid down, so I actually really like this
[05:20:23] There's 25 minute gem 17th and he
[05:20:26] Kind of crucial in a lot of these games and your planvers is multiple into this. They are also planvers is yet three into this, so that can be very useful
[05:20:35] Okay, Nisha, he's got that gem level 18 BKP whispers with the dread also
[05:20:42] It's gonna be big from liquid, yeah, if they can rally right in the gut, slash.
[05:20:49] Yeah, both of them ready to get the jump.
[05:20:53] I should have liked something big, they'd like to find a core to jump on, but they'd probably
[05:21:00] would settle for a support, and they'd love to save a point for it.
[05:21:04] Gonna be a quick kill here, and, ooh, try it for more than a little chopper.
[05:21:10] Now he's out with the Polaroid strike.
[05:21:13] Can they still look for more? They've still got a bit of time here with the smoke on Ace, but
[05:21:16] looks like the rest of the Falcons are just going to get completely away from any potential move.
[05:21:21] Scared comes here.
[05:21:23] And he's getting it. He's going to turn it off with Boxing, Boxing Scott, the Ghost Set-up.
[05:21:27] So what place can time and dust is out on to Skigan? He should try to connect.
[05:21:32] The arm is going to be laid down if the actor, the Clicks.
[05:21:34] He's going to pop the P.K.B.
[05:21:36] He doesn't come out. Ace is going to jump for it.
[05:21:38] to get the catcher to the mother.
[05:21:40] We can't be out.
[05:21:41] Bores coming in from the side from
[05:21:43] Marraine gets the jump on a boat to
[05:21:45] Food and days.
[05:21:46] Make it also in trouble.
[05:21:47] How does this be?
[05:21:48] It's going to get laid down.
[05:21:50] Catches him on the retreat.
[05:21:52] I mean, this is always the concern right when
[05:21:54] Liquid really push it for these kills into these fights.
[05:21:57] The turnaround potential from Falcons is pretty
[05:22:00] huge.
[05:22:01] Liquid get punished for that chase.
[05:22:03] The fight was split in two as well.
[05:22:05] as well too. I was actually watching the left side fight.
[05:22:07] Make it got on skater. Almost brings him down at the start of the fight.
[05:22:10] But then gets cited. The box comes in.
[05:22:12] I believe there's like a load.
[05:22:13] There's some other different citing abilities.
[05:22:15] As Nisha will find a kill on,
[05:22:17] cring in the back of tail of things.
[05:22:18] But overall, yeah, I'm happy.
[05:22:20] Connects on what everybody.
[05:22:21] Three, four heroes coming in from Alrean.
[05:22:23] Cleaning up that side of the fight.
[05:22:24] Nisha survived somehow though.
[05:22:26] He grieved and got out of the right side.
[05:22:28] But had to run during the majority of the team fight.
[05:22:31] Yeah, we'll see again.
[05:22:32] in there.
[05:22:33] Also, just give that coverage to the arena to try to hold them back, but as you say,
[05:22:36] and Maori, if he's not sort of accounted for at the start of these fights, he's always
[05:22:40] going to get the chance to play as hamperfectly and just shake up whatever liquid bring
[05:22:44] it falcons.
[05:22:45] It was pretty perfect.
[05:22:47] I will say, pretty perfect fight from falcons.
[05:22:49] The way that they controlled the earth on the left, used the box to save their carry,
[05:22:52] and then on the right side, the rest of the team fight was kicking out.
[05:22:54] You know, Nisha lived, does pretty much exactly how falcons wants to build the approach these
[05:22:59] fights, you just have skater be able to dance around the sursa.
[05:23:07] Becai, be rush, 50 seconds.
[05:23:11] Well, teams will have everything up again for this next minute again, too, so I mean,
[05:23:15] if you liquid, do you sort of just kind of pick yourselves back up and get back in the
[05:23:20] big you just have to, but you have to help, you have to help make it.
[05:23:24] That's the one thing that I did see.
[05:23:25] Make it got a little bit isolated, but it's because of the way to fight all the
[05:23:28] kicked out. A felt like Falcons was more on the same page while liquids was two different
[05:23:31] fights kicking off.
[05:23:39] Sorry though, there's all of the same damage.
[05:23:42] I'm just wondering if it never feels good to ever have like to go for a pipe or anything
[05:23:46] on this mars. He has to go to E.K.B. but somewhat maybe.
[05:23:49] Just a block a little bit of that.
[05:23:50] There's a lot of magical.
[05:23:51] Yes, sure.
[05:23:53] I don't know. There's just there is a lot of hybrid damage though to be fair, especially when
[05:23:56] since he's had the axe for so long, it has big stuff out of place.
[05:23:59] Let's get my fountains getting an upper objective there.
[05:24:02] How would it be? Torments up!
[05:24:04] Oh, I'm just going to show up with the after-stand, Crip.
[05:24:06] It's a instant spawn.
[05:24:08] And you've got to get straight in there if you're liquid.
[05:24:14] See if these are the fountains over.
[05:24:16] Yeah, I'm also not going to be heading over to the pit, so yeah, that's quick for Oachree's spawn.
[05:24:20] I'm going to make the most of it liquid.
[05:24:22] So it's going to be there, Aegis.
[05:24:26] Big deal playing versus doom
[05:24:30] The Earth is able to play twice inside of the fights
[05:24:33] It probably just means that the last is gonna be the one that gets to do them though, but
[05:24:38] It's making
[05:24:40] God, I'm in love
[05:24:42] Nice hook show
[05:24:43] Walks against the grab
[05:24:45] Gonna be snaking taken out
[05:24:49] How much can liquid go for now with this ages?
[05:24:53] Good information gather too knowing that snaking wanted to put some
[05:24:56] some type of information there.
[05:25:01] There's Nisha find the second word. I was wondering if he was going to check this area
[05:25:06] because he saw us naked.
[05:25:07] Doesn't look like he stepped far enough. Just check if he's seeing that word.
[05:25:12] It will get some extra info on the side of Falcons from it.
[05:25:18] I mean, you think these two ones you know should Falcons are you trying to hold these against the ages or do you start to
[05:25:25] respect the fact that liquid have this this ages time.
[05:25:28] The two are not the benefit of 200 HP if you want to talk.
[05:25:32] Sure.
[05:25:33] I mean, sure.
[05:25:34] I mean, sure.
[05:25:35] The creep.
[05:25:36] Well, that's heaping over with snaking.
[05:25:38] That's surprising.
[05:25:39] Yeah.
[05:25:40] Because if he gets caught, I don't know if he's going to get anyone else coming into try and bear them out.
[05:25:46] I got him, I'll let the tower go, he'll get out of there.
[05:25:50] He tried.
[05:25:54] Setting up around the area.
[05:25:55] She was almost finished for a mar.
[05:25:58] Folded dataless for skater.
[05:26:03] They could still fight into ages.
[05:26:05] They're thinking about it.
[05:26:06] Yeah, if Maori can get the angle, what they actually are.
[05:26:10] And he's gonna go for it.
[05:26:12] He's straight and get the up now to toe for it.
[05:26:14] The KF will go up, but Toto still hasn't going down, up to the side, once he's trying
[05:26:18] to sort of hold back the back lines and falcons, but you'll now have to run with the
[05:26:22] go step-to-step.
[05:26:23] The same to be separate for the speaker, B. The Doom comes down from them off, ACs
[05:26:27] in trouble. Maureen backing on top of him with the fleet dagger, they just have to fail
[05:26:31] out of this one. They get the stun over towards Godxaf, it's three bad. I mean, they're
[05:26:35] just so quick on that Maureen in these situations. Well, you go onto the Jekira right.
[05:26:41] He doesn't hold back, he sees a chance to just jump in, shake up the fight, get that quick pick up the star.
[05:26:46] He knows that they still have this advantage of a leash, just hiding in the trees, but a must for each of it.
[05:26:52] He's got the BKPA, both him, and make a puppet in and set the train turn, and I'll tell you what it's only going to work to help them kill my ring off a huge kill for Nisha.
[05:27:01] And they might hurt him, or as well, make it, Nisha turn on all of them all, put the BKP.
[05:27:06] You'll get himself out of this for now, Nisha, having to respect the fact that Skeeda's turned up,
[05:27:11] but I tell you what, the sort of AFK in the street street strap.
[05:27:14] It worked out, they get a huge kill.
[05:27:15] They kill my room for the first time this game.
[05:27:18] Cool little individual plays coming in from the there.
[05:27:20] I just expecting them to split up.
[05:27:22] It's a lot of little individual plays that are going on here
[05:27:24] in this game.
[05:27:25] They catch them off guard.
[05:27:26] Steps up a bit too far.
[05:27:28] Now, stop running.
[05:27:29] Like you said, well, I've seen, do this a lot
[05:27:31] on the second, where he just throws the oath.
[05:27:32] Because if anybody helps, he's going to deal a ton of damage
[05:27:35] inside the fight, so.
[05:27:41] So we're going to go from our liquid still, just under two minutes left on the Mikes ages.
[05:27:49] I'm feeling strong though, 20 seconds, a lot of all these were used to, doing so on cooldown,
[05:27:54] Mikes, looking for an angle.
[05:27:57] And if you get sort of a vision onto a Mars, it's still pretty not a target he wants to go for,
[05:28:02] but no.
[05:28:03] And he said, maybe with that 20 seconds in mind, if they can get sort of boxy connecting
[05:28:07] him from the side and allow an initiative to get the blink off on top of him, they will
[05:28:11] go for him. Just hard when you don't know where the ringmaster is at the moment. So it's just
[05:28:16] having to be aware of the saves. Making I think just saw him for a second. Great. What
[05:28:23] you got? Nice. This is my greenfile because I've done a good job of just holding around the tier two.
[05:28:32] They don't want to get caught out in this sort of final minute of VHS on the SNAKING.
[05:28:37] You're thinking about going for the steal.
[05:28:41] Oh, scouts him, they know he's dead.
[05:28:44] And then you shoot with the jab.
[05:28:47] That's the extra feel also.
[05:28:49] Immediately able to find a pickoff, catching them split off.
[05:28:53] That's an exciting game.
[05:28:54] Even though it's 9K lead, 10K, you can feel that liquid still can take fights.
[05:28:58] As long as they can get the angles, make sure they're still having this age of 20 seconds.
[05:29:02] Looks like they probably won't find another pickoff here.
[05:29:06] I mean, it's not easy for the crit but it's up. It's not impossible. You know, we've seen some of the way liquid can execute these moves and in the mid-Ace
[05:29:14] It's gonna get the set upon a crit. I spot what down it comes in with the damage. That's gonna be quick on
[05:29:22] And 45 seconds you're getting the it can sell it sequences
[05:29:26] Yeah, he's empty to go for the dive here. Anyone steps forward on falcons. They'll make that jump liquid
[05:29:31] A she's got a rena ready if you want to make the move
[05:29:36] Focus the tier 2 first there with Nisha you can step up and get the speed point back into the hatch
[05:29:41] They put the jump Mario's gonna come over the forest right for the peak of yours off from Nicky's
[05:29:45] He wants up on the mark but Nicky doesn't have enough damage to kill the do more now the things to be dropped down
[05:29:49] Or to make it all day over play their hand and they're there
[05:29:53] They wanted to make that jump but it goes horribly horribly wrong for them aged to fall as well
[05:29:59] They felt they could burst through the doom. They could not they got about from what two thirds of his HP
[05:30:04] they didn't really get that close to killing and that they really overestimate
[05:30:08] how much they could make happen with that play fault.
[05:30:11] So very aggressive move to go on the tanky is here on the game, just really trying to
[05:30:16] sequence the spear back into the hexing to the follow up, but that's dangerous.
[05:30:19] So if this is my opinion, the dreams are, how many of these episodes are we seeing?
[05:30:24] Every time catching three euros, if we see it again, it's a huge set up right with the
[05:30:28] spear into this hex.
[05:30:30] But then it gets very, very old could even when making it getting off the BKB before
[05:30:33] he sort of borrows straight comes into play. He's the only one that's kind of went on top of the doom at that point. And on his own, he cannot take down a mar, especially when the rest of the team is just imperfect because it's on the high ground to lay down the damage.
[05:30:43] I'm not going to imagine what a liquid they went for that, just expecting that maybe Falcons didn't have the whole team ready to react.
[05:30:48] And they realized he was when I pushed him with that behind the tier two. There's a high chance that Falcons did, and as we saw they certainly did.
[05:30:55] said mistakes do happen a liquid we saw niche honestly didn't even commit that's the
[05:31:00] best biggest thing that I tell is that that was maybe them on different pages too
[05:31:03] because niche just immediately starts running away advocate knew that this fight looked
[05:31:07] a little over his others for them to chew especially at the two to just set up for
[05:31:11] Malreen the sinking it's too much done Malreen.
[05:31:13] Foul most refresher near that 25.
[05:31:16] Insane damage that he's able to find all of these fights.
[05:31:20] Linkens now for a mar so he has a way to protect himself first at the end of the
[05:31:24] on the hex.
[05:31:27] Now, let's get it getting close and close to the BKB.
[05:31:31] I'm going to sing a ready.
[05:31:32] I've been finally some good positioning in the team fight from late on the damage.
[05:31:35] They've yet to be able to catch him for 0-8.
[05:31:37] I'm going to fantastic timer on the clanks.
[05:31:39] And as you say, yeah, refresh your timing done.
[05:31:42] These next team fights, liquid.
[05:31:45] I mean, I don't know what they're going to do.
[05:31:46] Are they going to sort of try to please jump?
[05:31:48] Again, you know, how and after you tackle Falcons right now with this new set of items.
[05:31:52] Now, since they're ready to get the jump themselves,
[05:31:54] Amar, he's heading to see what's going on.
[05:31:56] He gets the set up on the knees to the beat.
[05:31:57] Get people go off.
[05:31:58] Oh, try and run, but Amar is going to be on the chase.
[05:32:01] At this year, we'll back off out of the fight for the basketball play.
[05:32:04] It catches him. He's gone.
[05:32:06] They'll turn, look at the horse Maureen.
[05:32:08] They are able to least bring down the same king.
[05:32:10] Can they get more though?
[05:32:11] It's just down to Vicka and Ace as the rest of Liquid Ball.
[05:32:14] Ace on the retreat.
[05:32:15] Amar continues to chase, Micket down.
[05:32:17] The double support.
[05:32:18] Bye back comes in now from Liquid.
[05:32:20] liquid, they can they get anything offensive
[05:32:23] done with it though, at least they'll give
[05:32:24] the safety, but make a nice to back off.
[05:32:28] But I didn't think they can run back in on them.
[05:32:30] So that's going to be too support by backs.
[05:32:32] It keeps sort of the rest of liquid alive, but it's not
[05:32:35] going to get the many glory going back that way.
[05:32:37] Falkens, they can retreat.
[05:32:38] They can reset.
[05:32:40] They're so tanky, so durable in Falkens.
[05:32:42] And a lot of it is because of a margin being able to
[05:32:44] charge in the way does they finally do find my reign.
[05:32:47] But this is giving so much opportunity and kind of
[05:32:50] He's for skitter. He can just pick and choose how he wants to go on these fights because there's so much going on from his two frontliners
[05:32:55] I mean, he's got to bring that to save
[05:32:57] Is this what I'm gonna try to go straight for it see if the cat falcons buy surprise I'm gonna try for the jump on to a mar
[05:33:04] So he's gonna be ready to press if he needs to I mean, they're popping now walk it off
[05:33:09] They can be on your plate down on to the steered at the matches as well
[05:33:12] The bailout comes in from crick giving skit of the safety to back off and now maybe let's agree engage liquid on the retreat now
[05:33:20] going to try and get out of there.
[05:33:21] We've got a great slight in half the yearals into the wheel, looks for the set-up
[05:33:24] away.
[05:33:25] They said, what the BKB be able to push back a mile, tries for the TB though, will not
[05:33:29] succeed as they kill them off through the BKB, it's making a huge opportunity.
[05:33:33] They're trying for some desperate news now, folks, and it's not working out falcons,
[05:33:41] staying on top of these trades, up coming up to a 20 K lead and, yes, skier, they just cannot
[05:33:46] account for this clinks in the fights whatsoever.
[05:33:48] He's getting complete enough to freed him.
[05:33:51] They have too much to do on my look at his age.
[05:33:53] I didn't even need to say it because look at his health.
[05:33:55] Just watching being attacked.
[05:33:56] He buys, I think he pops his idol of Scree,
[05:33:58] I'll go whatever the hell it's called at some point.
[05:34:00] You could look at the evasion dodge, miss, too much armor.
[05:34:04] And keep it as cool as well.
[05:34:05] You know, he doesn't pop the BKB immediately.
[05:34:07] He knows he's going to take that long from him to get anywhere close
[05:34:10] to threatening him.
[05:34:11] Now, you can feel in his player right now.
[05:34:13] He feels pretty invincible on the front lines of these fights,
[05:34:15] even if he is the one getting gone.
[05:34:17] This neutral item is pretty insane.
[05:34:19] And he did get the quick inversion too.
[05:34:20] So we did see 50% of Asian plus that 25%
[05:34:24] plus low as this.
[05:34:25] So these are zooms out.
[05:34:27] Insane, they're tanking, insanely durable.
[05:34:29] And then you have to keep it even though you're not.
[05:34:30] I'm actually connected by bash.
[05:34:32] He got saved.
[05:34:32] Recented the fight.
[05:34:33] There's just so many ways to belly each other out.
[05:34:35] So for liquid.
[05:34:39] No, the fire is done.
[05:34:40] OK, so I'm going to say they do need a way to get
[05:34:42] and bypass the box.
[05:34:43] So he does have it.
[05:34:45] It's just their kind of all in.
[05:34:47] I mean, and they have to but if there's just the question about who do you all in on to in these fights?
[05:34:55] I don't know cuz I guess that skitter is getting freedom to attack, but honestly
[05:34:58] I don't have damage numbers for myself in particular
[05:35:01] But I would love to see what the damage numbers look like because I'm sure I'm already now reads damage is out of control in this game
[05:35:05] Just from frontlight
[05:35:10] Maybe ready I don't know if they say confidence will be a just on skitter
[05:35:13] super difficult to jump the double-linking targets as well too.
[05:35:19] Terri gone.
[05:35:21] Mark.
[05:35:23] I'm Marry and ready to charge in on a fight if Liquid do try and bring in the fence.
[05:35:28] Get up.
[05:35:32] Try to stop the damage.
[05:35:34] Try to stop the damage.
[05:35:35] You can call the Hacks, but they're having to get out.
[05:35:37] Now, Marry's ready to make it jump with the F4 onto the turn of the catches.
[05:35:40] Turn through.
[05:35:41] Catch his knees.
[05:35:42] Come out of the refresher.
[05:35:43] Let's get an issue of 12th booth.
[05:35:45] A boxy out of the game.
[05:35:47] Disappointing.
[05:35:47] I'll have to look at your buy-by's niche.
[05:35:49] And he does though.
[05:35:50] We'll buy-by straight away.
[05:35:51] They're over-catching in here.
[05:35:52] They free up the print bells and out.
[05:35:53] I can't put the boxy in.
[05:35:54] Make it in trouble if you rage.
[05:35:56] Mostly points.
[05:35:57] Come to put out the open first thing.
[05:36:04] Make games out of the game.
[05:36:05] Hurt's in safe.
[05:36:06] There's no buy-by on the end.
[05:36:08] The algorithm that keeps the job going.
[05:36:09] Once more.
[05:36:09] And it's a box that can give me the power.
[05:36:11] With these fashions telling you how to go, and like, as liquid gets to the point,
[05:36:16] thousands of people are coming here in this game 4, and push it out to a game 5 hole.
[05:36:22] That was, all me, that was pretty explosive the way that they fight around in honestly.
[05:36:27] Man, do I look pretty decent in this game, but also, man, I don't know,
[05:36:30] just sanking on that ring sometimes just looks so broken.
[05:36:33] The way he's just jumping in, starting the fights,
[05:36:35] commanding the fights himself too.
[05:36:37] That was wild.
[05:36:39] But it very quickly started to feel pretty anxious for them to take any actual head-on
[05:36:43] fight versus disdainting.
[05:36:45] And they make do work for the first time in this order.
[05:36:47] That really good.
[05:36:49] Now, again, see some fun.
[05:36:50] The pigs from them for this series.
[05:36:52] What has been really clever is that the day and group of people side come by to see the
[05:36:55] little ghost acting.
[05:37:03] Well, well, well, the best of five form that change does result in a
[05:37:07] Now very first one going all the way to a game number five now. So the first time in his
[05:37:13] best to five thousands had first pick in the draft. You want to show what they were
[05:37:17] going to be able to cook up for themselves but T, it's delivered and it tastes good.
[05:37:21] Well I care about right now as I look at the time and seven o'clock you know we have another
[05:37:25] game to play eight o'clock. Oh, I don't know when we get up and leaving today but no, hey, we're
[05:37:30] not starting before. Yeah, we're not starting before. We're not starting today. We're not starting
[05:37:34] I'm not in for the doughnuts, but yeah,
[05:37:37] I was just to make the adjustments going into game four.
[05:37:39] I don't ready for four week to go about anything.
[05:37:41] I just want to praise Chris.
[05:37:42] I feel like getting the ringmaster a hero that's
[05:37:44] banned out in the first three games.
[05:37:45] He gets the game for a first pick order enabling it,
[05:37:48] but he just shot the early game,
[05:37:50] getting the double kill short of the Dune dive,
[05:37:51] make the rotations everything Chris did in this game.
[05:37:53] I was like, hell yeah, ringmaster in his hands.
[05:37:57] It's so, so good.
[05:37:58] He's absolutely on fire.
[05:38:00] He's, I mean, everywhere all the ones
[05:38:02] And he pairs so well with the San King and Geralt that they didn't take the first
[05:38:05] through games where they first picked this primal beast or pick it in the second phase
[05:38:07] and this game is very, very good.
[05:38:08] And up at the primal, we're going back to the try and true San King.
[05:38:11] And I think in some ways, it's better for them because it allows you to hold these
[05:38:14] towers a little bit better, it allows you to build the structure and to play this slower
[05:38:17] game of Hawkins' lives.
[05:38:18] And I think it's just like going back even to TI like this is how they played, you know,
[05:38:22] critters on the strong range for he lanes going, he could step back like three sets, chop
[05:38:26] a little dagger at the end.
[05:38:27] Just up to you, you go, my ring, I'm going to stack it up for you, he gets a
[05:38:30] playing, they make nice moves, because Falkers, this was one of the cleaner games that I've seen from them.
[05:38:35] I will also say that TREENT on them is insanely toxic. They were like game one,
[05:38:39] whether they're now game four. They were so good at defending the Smithier one. I think literally
[05:38:44] every course showed up to defend it once and another time and another time for a living armar at the
[05:38:48] later game, because it was also very hard for Liquid to take roles, which is what you want to do and
[05:38:53] make some moves. So yeah, I think Falkers, that was really nice. Make a playing the Earth,
[05:38:57] Like when he's playing winrages and chairs and here is like kind of have a little bit more forward thinking they don't mind making that move
[05:39:03] Like go for it to get good or something
[05:39:05] That's just a bit weird like after your lane you want in the battle for you want to sit back get a blink at a bunch of get kills
[05:39:10] And I thought like just that lack of time from Mickey entering the game
[05:39:15] Opened up Falcons to utilize that and then suddenly a deser was in play for skitter
[05:39:18] There wasn't a skitter getting shut down like he actually was able to gain breathe because of course doom doing well
[05:39:22] Marrying doing well, maybe us if wasn't the hero that liquid needs to be able to beat Falcons
[05:39:27] But the other thing that Mickie has really thrived on, that's not to say he's usher is
[05:39:30] in good.
[05:39:31] But it's also a here that naturally itself can disengage a little bit because you're
[05:39:35] going to the Draft Style Queen is like almost these five pup players coming together.
[05:39:39] That's not necessarily what it is, but that's a similar style of what they're going
[05:39:42] for.
[05:39:43] And so to have to rely so heavily on team follow up when you're playing something like
[05:39:45] an usher.
[05:39:46] Maybe there is that question mark of does Mickie just naturally need to have a disengage tool
[05:39:51] in his item?
[05:39:52] I mean, I definitely think there's something to that.
[05:39:54] And that I think this game, the Drafts, we're very different from the other three games
[05:39:56] in some ways, I think this game is much more, it's more of a normal draft, like it's
[05:40:01] and they have not been drafting normally in this series. They've been picking very strange things,
[05:40:04] and no one else was picking, they're very co-key, very odd, but they've been working,
[05:40:07] and they've looked really, really good in some other games. So I think if you're liquid,
[05:40:10] you go back to the signature sauce that was working, you don't try to use any of the
[05:40:13] sarachan, you go back to the whole plane, barbecue sauce, and barbecue, the ketchup, the mayo,
[05:40:18] that's right. I mean, I'm English. If I talk about food and cuisine, you'll shit talk me,
[05:40:22] Yeah, you think the catcher is 5K.
[05:40:24] He really did, you know, he owns up to what he knows what he knows and that's obviously
[05:40:32] predominantly doughed or as well as talking about it.
[05:40:34] Why did you love it?
[05:40:35] No, no, no, no, no.
[05:40:36] That was just good.
[05:40:37] Actually, it's all love here because he given it a little bit more inside of that.
[05:40:41] You loved what was happening with the ringmaster.
[05:40:43] He would have do it for themselves.
[05:40:45] So now it's like, you do have to wonder where is this priority going to be for the dropping?
[05:40:50] Yeah, again, we are going to see some moments in the crit, but it's just like, it's
[05:40:56] just uncomfortable, I'd say, for liquid effects, because because the pick order changed,
[05:41:00] you don't have a whole new dynamic, and in this fight here, that's what the highlight,
[05:41:03] why Ringmaster was good.
[05:41:04] The escape act, as there's a hero that when you drop in, you need to get the kill.
[05:41:08] During your B could be through your damage.
[05:41:10] If you don't, you are running away, you're hoping to survive, wait for maybe a re-enate
[05:41:14] initiation, once someone makes a mistake.
[05:41:17] But because of current and having that escape act, having the magic resistance, buying time
[05:41:20] just not be right-click, it helped a lot. So again, I think the pick order, the shift of everything,
[05:41:25] maybe Liquid just forgot about this hero, and this surprised it once again. Oh wait,
[05:41:28] the room must is back. We are going to do it. So Falcons, they win when they can
[05:41:32] Kate. If they can't, Kate, they just lose again. This is what they band down over picking either
[05:41:37] ring or tram by the way to protect. Haskoviper Razer, Bristol back in cats. So they really all end
[05:41:43] on shutting down the course most notably on this side of Malryna Mar. Yeah, I think again,
[05:41:49] It's, you can't refold them, right?
[05:41:50] It's just because of their side or the pick order.
[05:41:53] They don't have that many bands in play.
[05:41:55] So to try and end to end a ringmaster band,
[05:41:56] it's just, it wouldn't really be possible, right?
[05:41:59] You're all in in suddenly now,
[05:42:00] catches in the poor, et cetera, et cetera.
[05:42:02] So I don't fault their bands.
[05:42:03] It's just the matter of like, you give it to them
[05:42:06] and he's never really truly shut down.
[05:42:07] I think that a couple of times,
[05:42:08] but I felt like in the big moments in the highlights we've seen,
[05:42:11] he was always there.
[05:42:12] Like there wasn't a clock on top of him.
[05:42:13] There wasn't a best of us of killing him first.
[05:42:15] I felt like Chris had a bit of creative freedom
[05:42:18] to make his moves.
[05:42:19] Yeah, I mean, they will have to consider it again, I think, in the next game, but I think
[05:42:23] it's also like the beauty of the BO5.
[05:42:24] It's like now, like Falcon stays swapped their pick order.
[05:42:26] Like they win a game from first pick, liquid, end up playing, you know, without the Razer
[05:42:30] Falcons do something different, they end up winning an on-site game five.
[05:42:33] It's like super important, like what the teams are talking about right now, you know, the
[05:42:35] coaches as well.
[05:42:36] Like, what is their, why are you winning, why are you losing?
[05:42:38] What's like the next pocket pick that will decide the next game.
[05:42:41] So just like being clear and like trying to identify why are we winning these games, why
[05:42:44] by losing, how can we, you know, make the draft just 1% better?
[05:42:47] That's like the best thing that can run out.
[05:42:49] They have been y'all touched on it, the citing.
[05:42:51] And I think it's super important, both of you and that.
[05:42:52] Like I think, it suits the liquid very well.
[05:42:54] They want lots of heroes with DPS.
[05:42:56] They want lots of heroes that can kill.
[05:42:57] And I think a few heroes with catch, like Boxy,
[05:43:00] we've talked them before.
[05:43:01] He is everywhere all that once.
[05:43:02] He is constantly hunting.
[05:43:04] And I think, they self-described this way.
[05:43:08] Everyone knows they're a peanut place in formation.
[05:43:10] They've played a structure.
[05:43:11] They stand there, they pay you into them.
[05:43:12] They kite you.
[05:43:13] like you said, they play this citing long fight.
[05:43:15] And for liquid, I think you need those ability
[05:43:17] to do constant DPS over a long time
[05:43:19] and not need to fight in the duration of BKD,
[05:43:21] because I think it's a really bad way for you
[05:43:23] to fight against Falcons.
[05:43:24] And you have one second, I think less than the results
[05:43:26] time when they locked in the doom.
[05:43:27] So as if Falcons knew exactly the hero,
[05:43:29] they bought some time, then they found the doom hero.
[05:43:30] And it's like, I think if Ringmaster wasn't in the lane
[05:43:32] in phase, Doom probably dies way more.
[05:43:34] Because of Ringmaster, he actually had a bit more life
[05:43:36] in the lane, which bought time, got him some items,
[05:43:38] and then this guy think comes into play.
[05:43:40] So to Falcons, it's just survived the lanes.
[05:43:42] However, they want to do that through ringmaster, through jacquero, through something, but
[05:43:46] supports give Falcons the life, for the never-lost of shonings.
[05:43:49] We've seen a mob not be in game 2 again, for it like, he literally wasn't even playing
[05:43:54] if I would like.
[05:43:55] So I think there's maybe a focus on supports that could help Liquid going into this final
[05:43:59] game with the best of five.
[05:44:00] How much more would you talk up to the early game as well here?
[05:44:04] Because we talked about it pretty much in the last four lanes.
[05:44:06] Liquid have had that, sorry, lanes.
[05:44:08] full games, liquid of hot that advantage in lanes, but moving out of it there's always
[05:44:13] been these moves from Falcons that feel, I don't know, kind of pulled out the net.
[05:44:17] Yeah, like to me, it's definitely a lot about the lanes and like seeing who can have the advantage,
[05:44:20] but again, I want to show something like the mid game because I think like having these specific
[05:44:24] moves that hit is just incredibly important. And I think here, like I talked about the tree
[05:44:28] and but if you look at the wars as well, like if you see Falcons, they have a crazy good position
[05:44:32] and it's really easy with them to read the map right now. There's a clings running around
[05:44:35] and his sister, a tree, and running around in this.
[05:44:37] And if you play the clip with the words they have,
[05:44:39] they know this move is coming.
[05:44:40] Like look at their positioning as well.
[05:44:41] And the other thing I wanna point out as well,
[05:44:43] is like, Ace, while I think his Mars was fine,
[05:44:46] there's like a very small detail.
[05:44:48] Maybe if you have blinked here
[05:44:49] and you get to spear back the doom instead of having to run in,
[05:44:51] you'llwing him for two seconds
[05:44:53] and then having to spear him, like giving all this
[05:44:55] little reaction time to him,
[05:44:56] maybe that can be a different play,
[05:44:58] but also overall understanding, like the vision you have
[05:45:00] in these games and how you can play the map
[05:45:02] is so, so important to like helping you
[05:45:04] side how you can fight. That's why it's like my issue made with the us if the liquids
[05:45:08] because other carry you don't grab your team and make these big moves. And when you make
[05:45:12] the big moves, a support will kind of take a little second place of what go for a
[05:45:15] deal with. He'll do all these little actions that you don't really talk about in like
[05:45:18] the big picture of a direct game. So when Mick is just far away, Nick would have that tenacity
[05:45:22] to get 40, 30 kills in the early game to truly broke anyone. They're just kind of waiting
[05:45:26] and the vision was more defensive, like we saw in the many maps. So whoever has the early
[05:45:30] game will naturally have the vision. There's like common sense kind of a daughter, but I do
[05:45:34] to like, liquid they thrive on that chaos.
[05:45:37] And I just didn't see it there.
[05:45:38] They had moments, but it wasn't,
[05:45:40] I wanted to see it from like, minute one to 15,
[05:45:42] they have to break them then.
[05:45:44] If they don't, then we'd truly have like,
[05:45:45] even games on our hand.
[05:45:47] Yeah, I mean, I think they need to make some key changes.
[05:45:49] And draft, I think they should hire,
[05:45:51] or up the priority on the Storm Spirit.
[05:45:52] We saw them pass it up on the potential 18
[05:45:54] and then it ends up getting banned last phase.
[05:45:56] The last should not look as good as the Storm
[05:45:57] during the prior game.
[05:45:58] I think uping that is a really big deal.
[05:46:00] And I think giving a something that he's comfortable on,
[05:46:02] like letting your catch be maybe niche on some hero, maybe boxy, and then let Ace and
[05:46:07] Micka just play like the heroes they want. That's scale all they give you damage. You want
[05:46:10] to have plenty of damage. I'll cause Faulkens loves to draft to be tanky. You love to
[05:46:13] draft to survive like you sit at the kite. So for me for liquid you need to have enough
[05:46:17] DPS so you can go to the distance because in this game at some point Faulkens
[05:46:20] kites you for two seconds and the fights over. Like it's just not a real way to play. It's
[05:46:25] too hard and it's too high execution. I do just love the idea of like you get to that 23
[05:46:29] pick and the nigga will pick Doom and the no matter what nation was to play he is
[05:46:33] going to get Doom this game so it's like you're not ever using the last pick
[05:46:36] because that pick was going to be a playmaker enabling hero that was going to kind of
[05:46:39] connect the dots to Liquid so again a lot of this I think Doom to have high priority
[05:46:44] but when you do have Malreen picking heroes that are counted by storms and corpse and all
[05:46:48] this stuff there could also be a narrative where it's not only a pick comes into play
[05:46:51] then maybe Doom does get promoted in priority just remind Liquid that it's possible
[05:46:55] Well, when I was talking with Aoi for the game for he said
[05:46:59] Maloreans kind of okay to play into whatever so we weren't really necessarily thinking about like if we wanted it to be the the
[05:47:05] Coal for the last she's like there's still my mean, she's good at it. So do you cool cop on that now? Well, you're like that's kind of
[05:47:12] Maybe I was you know, trying to build up his team a little too much. No, I think it's something that Chris likes to talk about that's like the
[05:47:18] Malorean specialty where he like he dodges the lane, right, but that's so it's like he's very good at getting what he can out of it
[05:47:23] But then I think what we're more talking about is like have a hero that then abuses that to like the the maximum
[05:47:28] And what you want to do which is like, you know the crop that runs around or this storm
[05:47:31] I'm still kind of like looking at the monkey king like where is this hero?
[05:47:34] I think liquid-lade insanely well you can flex it and you can speak more from it
[05:47:38] Maybe it doesn't dump sort of materials as much as it used to but this is one of this team's absolute best heroes
[05:47:43] Yeah, I mean I think on Mickey specifically. It's very very popular. I think mid is hyper risky to be honest
[05:47:48] And then carry monkey is generally better and carry monkey is like you got to be real sure to put it mid
[05:47:52] because the game can become real bad fast.
[05:47:54] But I think, yeah, I think for the safe lane,
[05:47:56] it makes a lot of sense.
[05:47:57] You want stuff like this.
[05:47:58] You want to trash a marin lane.
[05:47:59] Because like you said, we've seen it a couple times
[05:48:01] where the lane goes poorly form
[05:48:02] and it becomes kind of just nothing burger.
[05:48:04] It sits around and he farms and doesn't do too much.
[05:48:06] And I think it's honestly felt like
[05:48:08] a flip flopping between the offliners
[05:48:10] or a bar is a super good game in ACEs of really bad game.
[05:48:12] And then the opposite.
[05:48:13] And then now the opposite again.
[05:48:14] Like they're switching back and forth and for me,
[05:48:15] I'm looking at the offlints.
[05:48:17] And can we actually enable them?
[05:48:18] Can we make them have a game and not just be zero and 22-bot?
[05:48:21] They're all valid questions and valid points is passionate as you're getting
[05:48:26] visible passionate people in this video as well. And that's the fans, Puran,
[05:48:29] had a chance to catch up with some of them.
[05:48:38] Hello, we're backstage once again, and I am with what's your name, Joseph? Joseph,
[05:48:44] and how far have you traveled to be here today in Montenegro, all the way to US?
[05:48:48] You come all the way from the US and which team you support and I'm gonna guess team liquid. I'm gonna guess team Falcons
[05:48:54] Now I'm gonna stop guessing who are you to support OG support my fellow Filipino man
[05:49:01] OG and you're not gonna see them till tomorrow, but you're looking forward to it. How do you think they're gonna do?
[05:49:06] Yeah, I think they're gonna
[05:49:08] perform well
[05:49:09] based on their recent
[05:49:12] Games yeah, and what about an event in multi?
[05:49:15] This is the first Dota Revan I've seen in Malta. Did you come here for the event or did you come here for Malta?
[05:49:20] So I came here for a event and a vacation. So I was like altogether.
[05:49:26] So far, I like it here.
[05:49:28] Yeah.
[05:49:29] Did the weather take you both surprised because I almost got blown into the sea with always wind.
[05:49:32] Yeah, too. Like I just got here yesterday.
[05:49:35] And it was like raining a lot.
[05:49:36] Yeah.
[05:49:37] But the Dota is good. You enjoyed it so far?
[05:49:39] Yeah.
[05:49:40] I've been playing for almost like a decade and a few years.
[05:49:43] And what are the different events if you've been to if I may ask?
[05:49:46] Yes, yes, El Juan Raleigh.
[05:49:50] It's like last year around this time too.
[05:49:53] Cool, so, hey Joseph, thank you very much.
[05:49:55] I hope you enjoy the tournament.
[05:49:56] Thanks for talking to us.
[05:49:58] Hello there.
[05:49:59] I'm in the arena here.
[05:50:00] I'm just found a fan who is dressed absolutely fabulously.
[05:50:03] Can we make sure we get a shot of this incredible outfit?
[05:50:06] What is your name?
[05:50:08] My name is Tomas.
[05:50:09] Tomas, where did you get this incredible outfit?
[05:50:12] China.
[05:50:14] China.
[05:50:15] And who are you here to support?
[05:50:17] I'm here to support another.
[05:50:18] Navi.
[05:50:19] Okay, so you've got a suit in China.
[05:50:21] You're here to support Navi and you're dressed.
[05:50:23] I don't know how would you describe this outfit?
[05:50:25] Call her for, I would say.
[05:50:27] I think that's probably pretty accurate.
[05:50:29] How are you enjoying multiple so far?
[05:50:31] It's a nice come to you.
[05:50:32] I would probably come here again.
[05:50:34] And if I'm that blast, it doesn't end here.
[05:50:36] And have you traveled far from event before?
[05:50:39] Yeah, I went to Birmingham. I went to Germany a few times. I went to Sweden for a yes-o.
[05:50:46] So a long time ago to fan then, how long have you been following pro-dozer since 2012?
[05:50:52] Have you been to a ti yet?
[05:50:54] Yeah, to all of them. The last two in Europe that were there. Fantastic.
[05:50:59] So who do you think is going to win this final? Potentially final. I don't want to spoil it in.
[05:51:03] Potentially final match between Liquid and Falcon.
[05:51:05] I would have one liquid to win, but we'll see, like, Falcons are probably going to really
[05:51:11] Wow, so we'll see.
[05:51:41] Well, it gave a number 5.
[05:52:05] We knew there was the possibility of it.
[05:52:08] We've knew just how easily matched both Falcons and Liquid would be, but we made it
[05:52:12] there.
[05:52:13] Game number one and for the way of Falcons with two and three heavily favoring Liquid and
[05:52:19] everything they were able to get for themselves.
[05:52:21] So we'll see if a game five draft is yet to involve even more on what we've seen.
[05:52:26] Or if it is going to fall back into that sort of, we give Razor we ban Razor.
[05:52:31] We take the primal and what it was in the first few games there.
[05:52:34] How can they do have first pick?
[05:52:35] So we'll see if liquid changes anything.
[05:52:37] Are they willing to run it back again and give the tree?
[05:52:39] Do they have a better response to it?
[05:52:41] Or do they want to play against one of a more classic heroes in the toxic
[05:52:46] Bros?
[05:52:47] They can talk because they didn't have a party coming into this game.
[05:52:49] So they did choose it.
[05:52:50] Both of them is a serious development.
[05:52:52] Are they going to lead the Shadow Demon Inn and be like,
[05:52:54] Oh, liquid, you got to ban out the SD or the ring or the tree?
[05:52:58] No.
[05:52:59] Okay.
[05:53:00] I'll get to it.
[05:53:01] I think the 3-inch will go.
[05:53:08] I think the 3-inch will go.
[05:53:09] For the bristle, of course, it's very good.
[05:53:11] I'm already depokged.
[05:53:13] So, bristle raises.
[05:53:15] You won't give them...
[05:53:17] Which one?
[05:53:18] They're giving them bristle.
[05:53:19] They're giving them bristle.
[05:53:20] So, I will say that I slightly deferred this,
[05:53:23] just because I think the 3-inch turns
[05:53:25] other more normal off-link heroes.
[05:53:27] They do like...
[05:53:28] Interesting.
[05:53:29] interesting. Well, they thought about this right there. Clearly, this is a scenario they were
[05:53:33] okay with. They knew they had picked very fast. They responded with this DK in something.
[05:53:36] So this is prepared. This is their idea of what they will respond with. It is a hero
[05:53:40] that's very good against Versailles. Keep a full chill lane and in the game you're
[05:53:44] quite good as well. You're super hyped at the PS. You buy silver right now. Very quickly
[05:53:46] and naturally. There's a lot of things that match up that are very good and it's a classic
[05:53:51] counter to Versailles. It's very sensible. Yeah, I do like this. You've got the minus
[05:53:54] armor. You have long stun. Like when said, you have a great lane as well. There is also
[05:53:58] the option of flex if you want to. I don't think you have to. It can just most likely be
[05:54:02] the straight carry, but I like this from Liquid. I think it's a good planning. Of course,
[05:54:06] you could focus on what they want, but that's just how B5's are going to work eventually.
[05:54:10] Yeah, I mean, that is the power of first pick. When you have it, you will get something you want.
[05:54:14] I assume you have a wide enough vehicle and Falcon's do, right? There's first four bands. They
[05:54:18] felt mandatory, and so you've got to give them something. For outlooker on the find of those,
[05:54:24] Liquid trying to be high-pacing failing, then finding the solution to it, and then I feel like
[05:54:28] Now that we move to the end of the grand final.
[05:54:30] I was always waiting for you to finish this.
[05:54:33] I was waiting for you.
[05:54:34] It was like referencing it.
[05:54:35] It was like the first step of the game.
[05:54:37] That's the first step of the game.
[05:54:37] So sure, another step of the game.
[05:54:39] I have no idea how that's going to go.
[05:54:40] We're going to start that.
[05:54:41] Anyway, this best of five, not the finals.
[05:54:44] Unless we're pointing back to you, no?
[05:54:46] Actually, see how that goes later.
[05:54:49] I mean, I've got it back in.
[05:54:51] Exactly.
[05:54:52] Back to you, T.
[05:54:53] Liquid already showing in game four.
[05:54:54] They tried to slow it down a little bit with the Earth's
[05:54:56] a carry pick and now here you've got a DKS well it's like the shift of pacing from 1-2-3 on
[05:55:01] liquid to 4-5 is very very different and that alone I'm like mmm is liquid adjusting in the
[05:55:06] correct way like we praised them for like stay in truth in themselves in the first three games
[05:55:10] and now like now they finally got a loss again it's like they're now reacting and I don't know if it's
[05:55:14] a good one again we'll see where they go they were waiting they they use 20 seconds of that
[05:55:19] band so they were thinking air for a solid chunk of time deliberating on whether it's ringmaster
[05:55:23] something else that is going to mean there's 16, 17 here will be a little bit more open
[05:55:26] because they didn't ban for it right. This is purely a Falcons plays this hero, it's scary,
[05:55:30] so we're going to ban it.
[05:55:31] And of course, Chikara, the hero of the best of five.
[05:55:36] I mean do you think then with this trade having banned out the tree and the ring themselves?
[05:55:41] And then Falcons having banned out as the kind of winning the support trade,
[05:55:45] like they're probably going to go for Chikara, maybe clockwork as well and start a liquid.
[05:55:48] It's a very solid geographic. I don't think there's something fogging. It's going to pick
[05:55:54] that's going to be like a huge gacha. They'll pick some supports and I think it'll be fine.
[05:55:57] But I think you can hear our pairs very well with Dragonite. You get the mixture of physical
[05:56:00] and magic damage. Go back for a crit classic.
[05:56:04] Yeah, he said access to it in a couple of the games, but because of the likes of storm
[05:56:09] and other hairs, he hasn't really jumped on it. But for Falcons at least, when you have
[05:56:14] bristleback who is independent after four or five minutes into the game. I'm expecting
[05:56:18] her to make moves towards mid, take the twin game, even bristleback can twin game
[05:56:22] just overwhelm on a tower if he really wants to, but yeah I think so far for
[05:56:25] Falcons, then the ones gonna try and be a little bit more proactive early on.
[05:56:29] I mean I do like the hoodwink. Like hoodwink bristle, they have played these links like a
[05:56:33] hoodwink. Not if you're always seeing too much off, at least not today. I think it's
[05:56:39] like probably the first time. Even for snaking, like I also think maybe they would
[05:56:41] like some Chen, you know, help your bristle a bit with the DK, but one up overall, of course,
[05:56:46] sets up for an easily later gives you a good set up. So overall, like the starting blocks
[05:56:49] of both drafts are like very easy and like very nice to build on as well.
[05:56:53] I mean, it could need a way to just protect our early on.
[05:56:56] But we've jacquired DK alone at the moment, but what gets got on that minute seven,
[05:57:00] throws it down with the bristle back on the cut-up out waves. It's going to be super scary,
[05:57:04] five minutes, ten minutes, wherever far comes on a play on. I am expecting a liquid to
[05:57:09] Just kind of lose some audio objectives if they don't pick accordingly to do with this problem
[05:57:14] And I will I'm curious to see like foggons. They've already acquired away from the solves the farm engines
[05:57:20] They can well certainly pick the San King on 18 if they want it pairs very well
[05:57:24] But when you've got that classic magic damage combo
[05:57:26] They love to go forward. It's also really good against dragon. I'm pretty good against your Kiro too
[05:57:29] You know, so there's nothing stopping it from picking that and so I wonder if a liquid are you just gonna give that again because if foggons had the San King
[05:57:35] They give this woodwind who's good at stacking agents. You get the classic farming out from
[05:57:39] Falcons, the normal moves. I think it can be a problem for dragon eggs. That hero isn't
[05:57:44] like playing us over farm heroes. He likes to be the one that's top net worth. And if he's
[05:57:48] playing in these magic damage ancient stackers, you can run in some really tough windows.
[05:57:52] Yeah, we're still being available. The idea of picking, like, on the Lord for example, isn't
[05:57:58] really an option for liquid? Because into the first hero is great, right? You buy the
[05:58:02] or as you kind of mitigate a lot of Falcon stuff, you kind of slow the game down for
[05:58:06] the data to actually get online but again Falcon's closing the phase of a pick, we'll
[05:58:11] complicate this in liquid. Do you think the the San King is just as viable for
[05:58:16] Falcon's as maybe like a beast as well or does that get too greedy of a line up
[05:58:19] person? Depends on what liquid goes for here. Yeah. Have liquid played Darksear? Yes.
[05:58:25] They have that. I could even see like some, I mean I was thinking of a combo. I mean
[05:58:29] with someone, but it's just like a clocked arc there.
[05:58:31] Yeah, like something like that,
[05:58:32] because I think you could have like,
[05:58:33] or us into the warlock, which would be kind of nice for let's see.
[05:58:36] We have to see Largo, who has quite damn good.
[05:58:39] It's awful in the largo.
[05:58:40] Okay.
[05:58:42] Again, just filling these, the hills of a warlocking
[05:58:44] and landing phase, yeah.
[05:58:45] It's very, very good.
[05:58:46] That's kind of, pretty wide-up picking warlock.
[05:58:48] So Largo is gonna have a good time there.
[05:58:51] This thing is like, there's a breaking point here,
[05:58:53] because Largo is some of the damage.
[05:58:56] He's a bit slow.
[05:58:57] Balkans is also playing a slower game potentially with Bristol back, Warlock waiting for his six.
[05:59:01] And so do you have enough damage on the order to survive this to the tanking?
[05:59:04] Yeah, you have enough damage to survive the Bristol back.
[05:59:07] Walk, walk, walk, walk, walk because either Bristol back can't kill you, you survive
[05:59:10] it's daylight, you kite them, or he eats you alive and there's like it's one of the
[05:59:14] other, you get annihilated on a liquid, or you stay alive and then I'll have to damage the cut
[05:59:18] through you. That's kind of the beauty of this series so far, right? It's like at least with
[05:59:21] ace, it's the feast of something in all the games. And I think Logo Offlane is identical to that.
[05:59:25] You either get your early agonims and then you get your
[05:59:28] Sergeant Kai, your sheathers, your BKB, all these items, you're uncannable, you're leading from the front.
[05:59:32] Or you never get these items and you're just kind of another support, right?
[05:59:35] Like the offline logo is so volatile, just like the performances we've had from the offline.
[05:59:42] I mean, what can we do? Like, I'm not quite sure where the liquids want to take it.
[05:59:46] I think it's more up to them to also like find like a very strong
[05:59:50] Last pick and if I'm looking at Falcons
[05:59:53] There's been teams now that multiple times also banned out off-laners when there was a bristle on file
[05:59:57] concise, maybe there's also a way where they can flex it.
[06:00:00] So if you were liquid, maybe you could respect like the loom again.
[06:00:05] Because they have like DK, Largo, they kind of rely on like this one tanky guy.
[06:00:09] Oh look at us, we all buff them up and you can kill him.
[06:00:12] And who's stroking off to sustain doom in the lanes in a little green?
[06:00:16] Yeah, I think it's really fine.
[06:00:18] Doom is traditionally pretty good against DK and Lane.
[06:00:20] Now, there's a jacquero, so there's a jacquero.
[06:00:22] So we're different in.
[06:00:24] Back to that end.
[06:00:25] Yeah, but I think it could be fun.
[06:00:28] I think the following is you've got the ancient backing.
[06:00:29] You've got the ability to chill.
[06:00:30] And if you've got to do them now, you have the scaling
[06:00:32] with all of that.
[06:00:32] So it depends on what they want to go for.
[06:00:35] I think the story of this series has been liquid.
[06:00:38] Full steam ahead, all aggression
[06:00:40] and falcons trying to survive it.
[06:00:41] Get to their items and play the economy game.
[06:00:42] Last game, they were able to actually get the gold machine
[06:00:44] running, tend to do it this game.
[06:00:46] A lot of the mid-liners taken out from the side of Falcons, kind of targeting niche here.
[06:00:54] They banded that storm in their second phase and then Queen of Pain and Park is what is
[06:00:59] the final two bands for them.
[06:01:02] Okay, I see the elusiveness of niche here, and it might even be a tell that Falcons don't
[06:01:07] want to go for the doom potentially.
[06:01:11] Maybe, I think Falcons too sided against doom.
[06:01:13] It's not that actually that easy to do in Puck.
[06:01:15] You can buy the Lincoln's.
[06:01:16] There's some aspects to it.
[06:01:18] I mean, to me, this Puck pick is like a,
[06:01:21] it's a game five.
[06:01:22] Oftentimes, game five's go late.
[06:01:24] So you want to cut out something that's
[06:01:26] going to scale really well.
[06:01:27] The Nisha can go full chat mode on,
[06:01:29] because this guy is not a player who chokes.
[06:01:31] He always plays well every game.
[06:01:32] You just don't see these games where Nisha, like,
[06:01:34] dies and later hasn't, it doesn't happen.
[06:01:36] And so I think, if you're liquid,
[06:01:38] you've got last pick for Nisha,
[06:01:39] you have this guy with you,
[06:01:40] thinks it's the best match or for the game,
[06:01:41] and Puck makes a lot of sense for that.
[06:01:43] So now dig through the archives, find something cheeky, find something cute.
[06:01:46] Just anything that you feel like that guy right there on camera is going to own everybody with.
[06:01:50] I kind of feel, I mean, then to stop that, you need to get it to be on a very consistent
[06:01:55] here, like the jar of stuff to stop dude.
[06:01:57] He's going to go to his lane, do his job, and then the support,
[06:02:01] know that they can focus on nature, deal with the other problems that Quins presenting, but
[06:02:05] yeah, I'm leaning on, I think they have the moment jar, just chill dude.
[06:02:09] You farm large of a choice of the way.
[06:02:11] So I think it's for the weaver.
[06:02:12] Okay, let's head and go.
[06:02:13] It's got like weaver that we saw earlier in the series.
[06:02:16] Again, they weren't able to win it, but he is going to be left alone.
[06:02:19] You are going to find kills.
[06:02:21] I mean, the thing with one of it, you want to have some type of kill for him.
[06:02:23] If someone steps up too far with the bobs,
[06:02:25] go try and get an early grimoire.
[06:02:27] We want to see that golem the early and play to try and throw some liquid.
[06:02:30] They are greedy.
[06:02:31] Logo and DK.
[06:02:32] Very like item and farm intensive course.
[06:02:35] Yeah.
[06:02:36] Yeah, if they have a bad start, it will be a big problem for them.
[06:02:40] They definitely need some good early momentum.
[06:02:44] I get longer, you need acts, and then you want to say,
[06:02:46] acts, pyre-sange, and BKB, they're like the big three items,
[06:02:50] they have to become like the big rate for us a big game.
[06:02:53] What is it?
[06:02:54] I'm not sure, honestly.
[06:02:56] It's just second.
[06:02:57] Here it is.
[06:02:59] Oh, Lee.
[06:03:02] A vessel buying mid-lane void spirit?
[06:03:05] interesting. Any PSAs you want to put out there, Bob Boyd's verdict, it's
[06:03:10] built-quin. Okay, Nisha knows the bill. Nisha is a very, very good voice
[06:03:15] career player. He will not stomp sanking in lane, but you have a pretty good
[06:03:18] start. It's a very good skirmishing and it's a very good fighting. And I do
[06:03:22] think it is a good scaling hero, like I think this could end up being a very,
[06:03:26] very exciting game that goes the distance. I think it has the hero set out for
[06:03:29] that. There's a lot of tea fighting a lot of low cooldown spells. So I'm excited
[06:03:32] And if it is one, and I think it comes out the play.
[06:03:35] To me, draft does not go significantly one way or the other.
[06:03:37] Yeah, I think many for Liquid, they need to respect the time and the vlogger, and then bring the supports to give life to niche to then go to the vlogger and interpret those chaotic heroes.
[06:03:46] DK can go to hate.
[06:03:47] I'm known again, I can take over, but yeah, I think Liquid, if you don't play on the correct heroes in the early game, then they might have some problems.
[06:03:53] Because for Falcons, they look calm.
[06:03:55] They look like they found their rhythm in this, that's the 5th.
[06:03:57] Yeah, honestly, I'm on board.
[06:03:59] I think also like voice, he's not like this giga 24-pick that's like super game-changing,
[06:04:03] but he's super high-skill and I can't see like the angles, you know, like having this mobile hero
[06:04:08] in this game is quite good. And yeah, I think I fully agree with this game, you should ultimately
[06:04:13] just come down to gameplay. Can you find some really like good moves early on? You know,
[06:04:17] can boxy leaf is laying, can you like play through mid somehow, how can you go about the
[06:04:20] active moves? Can you contest my reen stacks early on? Can I mark pop off again? Because I honestly
[06:04:26] Honestly, just think this is a straight gameplay game five this lighter.
[06:04:30] Yeah, it's um, I don't know.
[06:04:32] I also wonder like, T mentioned it before.
[06:04:34] You've got really greedy cores in the logo and DK.
[06:04:37] These are heroes that they get up to bad starts.
[06:04:38] Something they're saying gets as fast.
[06:04:39] Blank you start feeding in a whole map crumble.
[06:04:41] So I look at these lanes.
[06:04:43] How does the battle of the off lanes go?
[06:04:45] Because that's a lot of this series to me is one of the feeds
[06:04:48] and the other one feasts.
[06:04:49] So I want to know who's feed and who's feasting.
[06:04:51] Double wisdom as well.
[06:04:52] All right, seven minutes into the game.
[06:04:53] Like you're talking about off lanes,
[06:04:55] So what happens if Warlock and Hood Wing get the wisdom?
[06:04:57] And then you're using the gun.
[06:04:58] This is so many little things to focus on,
[06:05:00] but yeah, off-laners, it's been a weird,
[06:05:02] best of five or four.
[06:05:04] All right, and I know you guys are saying it's going down
[06:05:06] to game play, but I still want to know where you might
[06:05:08] be leaning.
[06:05:09] You have to take into consideration all of the four games
[06:05:12] you played already in this best of five.
[06:05:13] And of course, what did result in the drafts here?
[06:05:16] Long goes a coin flip here, so I'm just going to flip the coin.
[06:05:19] OK, what do I know?
[06:05:20] OK, I'll see what you have to put in.
[06:05:21] I'll see what you have to put in.
[06:05:22] I'll see what you have to put in.
[06:05:23] OK.
[06:05:24] There's a voice for you to get my half-to-go voice period.
[06:05:26] That's true, you never, you've never gone against a voice period.
[06:05:29] My eyes are always on block C. It's my broken, like, you know, do well on the lane and make the moves.
[06:05:33] He's my guy.
[06:05:34] Alrighty, I like it. You guys have put out those predictions as hard as it might be, because this best of five is already been going on for five hours.
[06:05:42] We're getting into it, they'll only get to see a winner out of the end of this.
[06:05:46] It is a game five between Falcons and Liquid.
[06:05:54] There we go, ladies and gentlemen, it's time to get into the action of the deciding game
[06:06:09] 5 here between Falcons and Liquid.
[06:06:12] What a treat we've had so far, you know, first best of 5 here on the main stage.
[06:06:16] It's going to hold distance and here we are on the fifth game.
[06:06:19] Going to hold distance and getting even variety of heroes.
[06:06:22] I feel like sometimes when you do get these, I mean, we don't get them any best of
[06:06:26] fives, but sometimes what it is, it's the literal same draft so much.
[06:06:29] We actually get a new hero in the end of it all, right?
[06:06:32] A void spirit that hasn't been caught, she either has some similarities of heroes here
[06:06:35] and there, but some switch-up, so curious to see how it's going to do, Nisha, has some potential
[06:06:40] in this game if you can get some cool, early rotations, right?
[06:06:43] Vessel looks pretty value, and also I did have to mention this one, is the eighth
[06:06:47] armbnid versus the bristle back?
[06:06:48] They have hard stunts and it'll be to turn him.
[06:06:51] times, like these players, especially a mar,
[06:06:53] they're specialists under like positioning
[06:06:56] of the way that face their heroes,
[06:06:58] but this can completely change that.
[06:06:59] So looking forward to see that and they have a save.
[06:07:02] I think last game, not having a save versus the same can
[06:07:04] be problematic, so it looks like they've changed the archetype
[06:07:08] and built an idea they want to play versus Falcons.
[06:07:09] And let's see if that works.
[06:07:10] Because Falcons, they've got a pretty consistent and strong
[06:07:12] draft rally around the same thing in the crystal.
[06:07:16] Yeah, that's going to be fun to play out and see
[06:07:18] play out in the team fights, right?
[06:07:20] The whole sort of idea that, you know,
[06:07:22] Liquid, they're waiting to see Malreen,
[06:07:23] but they're marring his waiting to see where Box is
[06:07:25] for the particular house and save,
[06:07:27] that Boxing come in too, so it's gonna be a lot of fun.
[06:07:29] Am I ever walking at the bounce in here?
[06:07:31] Still, we'll end up in the two for two.
[06:07:32] Liquid, do most of them actually get too out of square.
[06:07:35] And all in all, we'll get to see again,
[06:07:37] if the logo can work out a little bit better
[06:07:39] in a different position right this game.
[06:07:41] We had it earlier, what in the support,
[06:07:42] we're off, because this game ace taken the logo
[06:07:45] to the off-lane.
[06:07:46] I mean, how do you feel about this, Harry?
[06:07:48] You look more hopeful for its potential when it's in the position for it the moment.
[06:07:52] In terms of pro play, it does seem like it.
[06:07:54] It feels like it has a better role, because it's just greedy if it gets to that
[06:07:57] axe timing.
[06:07:58] It does multiple things.
[06:07:59] As support, it seems very specific the game that you can do well, because your lane is
[06:08:02] just weird to play a lot of times.
[06:08:04] So let's see if it can do it.
[06:08:06] And this is another thing that kind of changes in terms of the archetype of the team
[06:08:08] fights to is, is it's likely going to go for just a sustained team fight where they can
[06:08:12] serve five in the epi, just pulsing the seals, saving each other with the snowballs,
[06:08:17] Maybe itemizing for it too.
[06:08:19] Curious to see how it's gonna go.
[06:08:21] And curious to see if the weaver approach works too
[06:08:22] because when you're singing, you can't kill that bug.
[06:08:25] So that might as well remember, maybe could add up,
[06:08:27] even though he gets a ton of armor.
[06:08:28] Master, well, let's go along your team.
[06:08:30] Might as to help you out.
[06:08:32] Yeah.
[06:08:35] So cool, cool mechanics in this game for sure.
[06:08:37] Either you'd be at the turnaround plays or...
[06:08:41] And out in particular.
[06:08:41] And then we do have to, of course, mention the break
[06:08:43] that can come into play.
[06:08:44] Of course, DK they mentioned going
[06:08:46] being a natural silverage buyer and earlier moments that may be some other heroes on the side
[06:08:51] focus they have a natural break so crit will have that first of the decay and look at the
[06:08:57] lane setups this is a bit interesting to the way they did this so I assume it's because they
[06:09:02] didn't want the wave pulling to happen on the side of Falcons if you put Warlock safe lane
[06:09:05] guaranteed wave pulls if you put the hood with bottom you can actually perhaps put pressure on
[06:09:10] and slow down the largo so I guess that's the approach.
[06:09:15] Since there I've worked out, I've had some pretty interesting scenarios, but it's in the landing stages of the other game so far this game.
[06:09:21] Yeah, this is this series.
[06:09:23] It's also that the warlock is not playing for us the largo, right? That's probably one of the bigger things,
[06:09:27] because then you don't have to worry about the dispels,
[06:09:29] but I think it could have a double faceted kind of reason that they did it.
[06:09:32] Now it's taken me to play freely. You can constantly throw the healing whatever on the umar or just get a bonge.
[06:09:38] The Lion Fowler plums will hurt.
[06:09:40] I'm going to get in tofu going to tickle.
[06:09:43] I'm pretty low there.
[06:09:44] I'm in my cake.
[06:09:45] Barely surviving, even at that.
[06:09:48] I mean, it might even be in trouble if they can get some hits and on to tofu.
[06:09:51] I'm thinking in a mile doing that best to bring both of them super low.
[06:09:55] Causing return of miles does take quite a bit of damage, but here at least has the
[06:09:58] shadow work to rely on here to save it.
[06:10:00] It's a cool lane setup, so we see the Falcons they decided to go for these, and we'll
[06:10:08] see if it does benefit them, and let's see if liquid, they're content with this anyway
[06:10:12] because Ace is getting farm.
[06:10:14] Chris, chasing Boxy out.
[06:10:16] Pretty far.
[06:10:17] I can't quite finish off the job.
[06:10:20] It's enough to let Boxy add back to the lane, so I'm going to put him next to the clock.
[06:10:25] Pretty close.
[06:10:26] We'll see them.
[06:10:27] This time around a mile, I don't think he could be safe, he can't.
[06:10:30] Try to step out of here for the first load as liquid.
[06:10:33] They win that fight. It's going to be first love for so-for-it.
[06:10:36] It's always nice to have that hard stunt versus bristle also.
[06:10:38] That's why they went with this pick. It just stuns him when he's facing them.
[06:10:42] It gets like two extra three extra hits onto him.
[06:10:44] It gets that kill.
[06:10:47] That's it done.
[06:10:49] I think chance taking gets a killer mile early on is going to be pretty huge.
[06:10:53] We saw obviously early in the series when he was on this bristle.
[06:10:56] Before I had it buried, quickly go to Pongers out of control,
[06:10:58] bottom lane, the two of them.
[06:11:00] And she's getting the catch on to Crip.
[06:11:03] We press it, and they're striking her in these side lanes,
[06:11:06] and sort of just with these little bit of outplays,
[06:11:08] where how can's binding a bit more than they could shoot?
[06:11:13] Ace is getting unlocked down here, too.
[06:11:15] That base damage she does have is really nice.
[06:11:16] That's something that I do like to see,
[06:11:18] always, as three position log-all compared to support log-all,
[06:11:20] you're not really using that base damage to last hit very nice.
[06:11:23] That's three.
[06:11:24] You are.
[06:11:25] So he's getting some good CS versus the weaver.
[06:11:29] Stacks are being made. We do see snaking. He's prepping that area of firm.
[06:11:32] I'll read. We get that farm going.
[06:11:35] Top. I don't think the more we'll die again. I think that one killed that they got on him.
[06:11:40] This is because he was very low and overplayed his hand. I say that and now he overplayed his hand under tower, but he's okay.
[06:11:46] He's feeling a bit more fine now that at least the level 2 shadowed.
[06:11:50] Yeah, so it was pretty solid heels from our each and every time.
[06:11:53] I mean, let's we kind of see a rotation from the quick coming.
[06:11:56] Maybe a box he wants to make some sort of move up towards the top.
[06:11:58] I think you're right.
[06:11:59] I'm actually pretty safe.
[06:12:00] Yeah, look at that.
[06:12:01] That's a good point.
[06:12:02] Well, he stacks.
[06:12:03] Maureen's going to hit a very early timing, right?
[06:12:05] Already, of course, the lane matchup is doing great in getting that a little bit of an edge
[06:12:09] against Nisha.
[06:12:10] And now with this sort of being cleaned up as well, it's going to be another solid start
[06:12:14] of the Sanky.
[06:12:15] And the question will be, at some point, probably, is that the liquid sustained and their
[06:12:20] idea of being able to deal with the Sanky is going to work.
[06:12:22] But I've just seen Mourine for many games that's kind of due way too much on his own
[06:12:26] as the saking.
[06:12:27] Yeah, that keeps that sex is pretty much going to be there, he's maximizing in terms
[06:12:32] of efficiency.
[06:12:33] I have a much, I need you to be in the moment, it's just sort of enjoy the fact that
[06:12:44] he's got the lane to himself to clean up from pushing, maybe get some little bit of pressure
[06:12:49] off of this first siege creep, Mourine.
[06:12:51] We'll get bullied away from completely finishing off the job here by toe food. I like this move from toe food
[06:12:56] I like you might get a little bit more done there. Yeah, with the block grenade in the dual breath
[06:13:01] Wait, my hands are born charges in the sound so I'm totally really wanted that kill
[06:13:05] That was doesn't get it and that ends up
[06:13:08] You know, that's pretty painful right you don't get the kill
[06:13:11] You've only just got to give in a little bit more to the sanking top play. I'm making they're coming in with the dive
[06:13:16] We'll see it keep you out of a finisher
[06:13:18] We're coming from the first look to punish a mar, a marketing finish of McAid timing card.
[06:13:23] The case survives, and you should come in and clutch to make sure that a mar does not get away with that,
[06:13:28] if they kill a mar off, run the other side of the map, ace and bogsy, they take grit down again,
[06:13:33] so don't forget to make some bit of a slip-up with that over aggressive move,
[06:13:36] but liquid, as you have with our whole stronghouse, we're on the map.
[06:13:40] Arena has a history.
[06:13:41] Looks like he wants to set up on McAid top. He is still low.
[06:13:44] Nisha, does he read the movement? Does he want to try to help?
[06:13:48] I can make a very bad.
[06:13:50] Straight in. With the combo.
[06:13:53] Very nice moving from towering that just comes in at a point that
[06:13:56] Mika, he's not expecting that in a million years.
[06:13:59] Hopefully it certainly goes mid, don't release
[06:14:02] Soak some of that experience, Nisha.
[06:14:04] We'll drag the wave off the tower, so we'll at least build the
[06:14:06] Hold that for the DK and stop that tower push.
[06:14:09] Interesting moves. Quickly on rotations from both sides to match each other.
[06:14:43] to finish.
[06:14:44] He's going to come out.
[06:14:46] He doesn't want to be out of punish.
[06:14:48] He's getting him to shoot.
[06:14:49] She has been caught.
[06:14:50] The snake comes in.
[06:14:51] Vites the hill keeps Chris safe.
[06:14:53] And with this, they can look for the turnaround.
[06:14:54] They take a South box.
[06:14:55] He's not going to get out.
[06:14:56] He has to push.
[06:14:57] Just in time to put a stop to the T.P.
[06:14:59] And set things up for speed to get the double.
[06:15:02] I thought.
[06:15:03] I thought.
[06:15:04] I thought.
[06:15:05] I thought.
[06:15:06] I thought.
[06:15:07] I thought.
[06:15:08] I thought.
[06:15:09] I thought.
[06:15:10] I thought.
[06:15:11] I thought.
[06:15:12] more charges for snaking up to 4 now. He's got 6. Might look to just drop the rock on bottom.
[06:15:20] On a they could die for the killer thing. Obviously, Nisha is coming into the wrap round. They will just
[06:15:24] be dropped the gollum straight away to put the pressure onto the tail on top and he's just coming
[06:15:29] in with the wrap round. Try to get the set up one to crit, put it down to Nisha. He'll be able
[06:15:34] to all drop the job as crit's excited to the earn. He's going to take quite a few punches here
[06:15:38] from Skeeda in return and push the gollum still out as well. So I have to bear that in mind.
[06:15:42] As a snesher, Foxy hold back, still good damage being done to the Tier 1 tie on the first effort of the push from Falcons.
[06:15:50] It might get the gold from the gold on the least though, they will, so plus 100 for Nisha.
[06:15:54] But goldoming just for the push keeping the catapult in life, but they don't finish it.
[06:15:58] So good response is from liquid.
[06:16:00] Let's get it.
[06:16:06] That's where I now let you know, it's the gold pushing down on the set area.
[06:16:10] Top. Marine was trying for a play and looking to try to slow Mika down since he is going for the mask of that.
[06:16:16] Yeah.
[06:16:17] I mean, did this with the Tahais run?
[06:16:20] It's going to be a time where the camp was just cleared.
[06:16:23] Maybe still here if Krip wants to try for the setup.
[06:16:25] Bushwack to start things.
[06:16:27] There comes the F-be from the embers.
[06:16:29] T-be's a common end.
[06:16:31] Okay, it's pretty tanky. Can he live through this?
[06:16:34] It's throwing away.
[06:16:35] No way.
[06:16:36] He's got a zip of marines that would pop him and time takes the kill.
[06:16:40] Their punish cream response would count they catch marines.
[06:16:44] They need to act marines for this.
[06:16:46] They don't need to start running to support the liquid.
[06:16:50] And they just just presence enough to stop them from being
[06:16:53] at the chase marines down.
[06:16:54] So marines will be perfectly fine.
[06:16:57] Two very good powerines they're used perfectly by marines
[06:17:01] to slow down this early game from Mick A.
[06:17:05] Thus, barely to make it almost lift because of his ash leaves and shield.
[06:17:08] The catch, come on.
[06:17:09] The ground is down around the ground.
[06:17:11] We can get the kill.
[06:17:13] If you get more, they get the dragon tail on some marries and he's got enough.
[06:17:16] Just enough of the barrage strike out into the trees.
[06:17:18] We can't chance on the bristle.
[06:17:20] Can they go for more skaters going for the T-Piat?
[06:17:23] The tree line there won't see it.
[06:17:24] So the rister bow comes, do manage to back away.
[06:17:29] Having to bring it everybody though, just making shit, they really did not want to lose
[06:17:32] that tower.
[06:17:33] already but they will be able to bring five to at least defend the move and we could see the
[06:17:36] remnant play come in right away so I'm more we are seeing him struggle on the bristle back
[06:17:41] and there's definitely going to be that itemization to make him continue struggling with the vessel being done
[06:17:47] okay see that couldn't quite get the distance there with the bush what
[06:17:54] I think ace with with all the pharma's getting he's like you know what I am going to go
[06:17:57] I just I'm just going to rush it so that's fine to just going to have it super early he's got two
[06:18:01] components are really done. It's gonna be really nice to work around and to counteract a lot of that damage
[06:18:06] kind of act as slow as well too versus that that of course thanking.
[06:18:10] Marine really trying to push this tower as much as possible here.
[06:18:16] So he got him off.
[06:18:19] Great for the jacquero.
[06:18:22] I'm gonna try and hold the black good cut for the jacquero.
[06:18:24] The pushback from connecting but the column is gonna get dropped down tofu. He's gone.
[06:18:28] on. Now Marka turned his attention
[06:18:31] everyone's boxy. Some alone is
[06:18:33] positioned on the high ground.
[06:18:34] He's going to be coming over
[06:18:35] from knee shot and want to try
[06:18:37] and fight this liquid. The
[06:18:38] craft wants him up. I'm
[06:18:40] chucked from boxy. They've locked
[06:18:41] up his escape. People with the
[06:18:42] shards laid down. The burst
[06:18:44] through the bristle once again.
[06:18:45] And this time he's pulling them
[06:18:47] over. Yeah, liquid absolutely
[06:18:49] showing that they have the tools
[06:18:50] to tackle the bristle in a way
[06:18:52] that they really didn't early
[06:18:53] at the start of this series
[06:18:54] right. They came over with a
[06:18:56] completely different strategy
[06:18:57] so fine so far in terms of keeping the bristle under control, it's working, keeping
[06:19:02] bristle under control but not keeping mal-rean really, his net worth is exploiting.
[06:19:06] They'll get another pick but the sanking during that whole moment, he took the entire
[06:19:10] mid-hour.
[06:19:11] And that's up at the AP, so at the moment, no way to get out of the sandstorm and
[06:19:20] african boat.
[06:19:21] So, marine and decatino rack of the kills, I mean both mids, having a pretty explosive
[06:19:26] stop. Marin, of course, fueled up by that extra boost of farms, still on the top spot, but
[06:19:30] in Anisha doing his best for these TP's up and down the map, 303 on the void spirit,
[06:19:35] he's trying his best to keep on pace.
[06:19:40] Well, reen-sanking, the space maker, and the killer, and the carry. Top that worth dragon waves,
[06:19:47] giving information he's also been on the 9 farm. I did want to highlight this, he's been walking in
[06:19:51] and stealing some of the stacks. So for liquid?
[06:19:54] So perhaps paste slow down a little bit at least from two of the cores, and these
[06:19:58] from Ace and from Mikke, perhaps wanting to sit back and get some farm, but the two supports,
[06:20:03] and Nisha can look to make moves with this spirit vessel.
[06:20:06] It's just hard because of the way the Malarines playing, keeping this keeping this mid-wave
[06:20:10] shoved in, so it's giving so much information.
[06:20:16] And hard for them to go for Skeeter really at all in this game.
[06:20:19] Yeah, for sure, I'll speed it up.
[06:20:22] Yeah, I'm in that mouse for pretty much done.
[06:20:25] His farm is going to start to, in a container sort of skyrocket up there.
[06:20:29] It's not going to be easy for Mick Gator to keep up.
[06:20:31] At least when it comes to kind of raw, just hitting the creeps.
[06:20:34] They're going to have to look for objectives and timings around that dragon night
[06:20:38] to sort of match the farm pace of speed as cool as you know, speeder as the carrot.
[06:20:43] They've got to, okay, they have to push Mount Rain out of this triangle.
[06:20:46] I like that they even put their own defensive word from Tofu,
[06:20:49] usually you do not see this place as the dire side,
[06:20:51] just because of my old Mount Reen was playing,
[06:20:54] just wanting to push him out of the area.
[06:20:56] So, he's getting him out of there, getting their time to get that farm.
[06:20:58] And maybe Ace is going to just be able to get Axe,
[06:21:00] and then they're fighting with a lyrical agonims
[06:21:02] in the first team fights, which can be pretty huge,
[06:21:04] getting the double songs.
[06:21:07] And what's the other way to deal with that?
[06:21:09] Like, do you have to go straight for the log-a-tron,
[06:21:12] bully him out of the fight?
[06:21:13] Like, how do you deal with such an out-of-a-ax on,
[06:21:15] and one of the on a log I tell him to have seen fight.
[06:21:19] He's just poppin' first.
[06:21:21] Cheat up.
[06:21:23] Let's buy the remnant.
[06:21:25] He has backup with him, Matt Reen at the side.
[06:21:28] It's an ishia.
[06:21:30] He's gonna be able to at least force the time
[06:21:32] upside down to speed up.
[06:21:40] Amar, Huss' Lotus looking,
[06:21:42] he ideally wants that before the first fight,
[06:21:44] to just get rid of the vessel in particular.
[06:21:47] Then you can actually act as that tanky front liner.
[06:21:50] Numbers are closing this one.
[06:21:52] This game five.
[06:21:55] Sorry.
[06:21:56] That noise that you can't really go for the solar command
[06:22:02] until you're right now.
[06:22:05] Why not have enough to kill him?
[06:22:08] I need him, he needs backup for sure.
[06:22:10] Both of them made scuring up their shards,
[06:22:12] both super strong shards. Of course, the void spirit went more from farming,
[06:22:15] while the sanking one is pretty much for everything, but actually.
[06:22:22] Thanks for stacking me. So both teams being, it feels quite a bit more hesitant than we
[06:22:26] saw in some of these other games since we are on that game five, looking to get these
[06:22:29] timings.
[06:22:32] Yeah, Falcons, you gotta imagine they might be tempted to try to make something happen with the
[06:22:35] gold and that'd be called probably, I would say so.
[06:22:42] Nick was going to have ice in grip.
[06:22:44] These are the walk up into the high ground box
[06:22:46] in total, they have a surprise for him,
[06:22:47] but it's gone.
[06:22:48] If the jumpfall from my ring might be enough
[06:22:49] to get kills in return, they'll look all at the food.
[06:22:52] They're going to be able to take him out.
[06:22:54] It's the won't for one for now.
[06:22:55] Nick can't get anything in response.
[06:22:57] Well, and he's coming up with a control.
[06:22:58] They certainly can't, Nisha.
[06:22:59] Jumped forward has to grab on the ball's marine
[06:23:02] and make sure the liquid comes out on top of that one.
[06:23:05] Again, you know, Nisha making sure that he is everywhere
[06:23:09] that they need him.
[06:23:10] bottom skaters trying to push for the kill on ace, ice, oh, it's a supporter 10 trying to
[06:23:14] TP out there does not pay off skaters going to knock damage to kill him off before he
[06:23:19] can get out of that one. So skaters let's hit something down there on the bottom, but
[06:23:23] that yeah, that's the fact that the mowering get in tripped up there. It was a risky move
[06:23:28] right trying to enter into the high ground like that. Liquid they were in position. I'm
[06:23:34] shocked to critting like throwing acorn before he just let he ran up there. So it kind of
[06:23:37] put them in an awkward position, and the snowball split the jacquira on the task away.
[06:23:42] Skip the mic is in position, they get that stun.
[06:23:45] As you said, Falcon maybe felt that they felt powerful enough to go for that move,
[06:23:49] because the DKs are warming, they have this, they have this epi availability to go for kills,
[06:23:53] but liquid can, can tend with just sitting back and getting this farm.
[06:23:57] Which I don't blame them for, you're getting to hit creeps with Largo in the DK.
[06:24:01] It does feel pretty good.
[06:24:03] and
[06:24:05] boxy he's he's going to have this blink dagger i mean you talked about the star red the potential of the sage from this task i'm going to be huge against but what marry wants to do
[06:24:18] mid
[06:24:22] but there's some sort of set for the jumping ten seconds they'll have to have to happy
[06:24:26] the
[06:24:31] only on it on the
[06:24:33] on-skid up
[06:24:38] the
[06:24:41] one seems to take up to say that the low is not done on the bristle
[06:24:44] I think the truth ready to fight themselves honestly like there's a lot on the side of both teams are content with looking for the fights is all going to be a
[06:24:50] who can get this connection and if the logo can actually sustain them, that's going to be
[06:24:54] quite fine.
[06:24:55] They can get the stuff.
[06:24:56] That choice column was still off cooldown for 30 seconds, but that's rush.
[06:25:01] In terms of sort of morale, yeah, having won it, you know, in the game this close
[06:25:04] right, you lose one of the heroes, one of the supports, you're not going to feel strong
[06:25:08] down for a team fight.
[06:25:09] Awesome, what do you do?
[06:25:10] No, that is out of the action.
[06:25:12] Maybe it looks like the DK form is actually ending, so perhaps they can't just go straight
[06:25:15] for the rush.
[06:25:16] Warlock is responding soon too.
[06:25:18] It's a good one, though.
[06:25:27] We'll look at it, see?
[06:25:28] If anyone sort of stepped up on that bottom lane,
[06:25:31] but there isn't going to be the case.
[06:25:33] I mean, I think you know, liquid, they're not afraid to continue to sort of hunt for the action.
[06:25:37] Just because of the house, strong, you know, both Nisha and Mickaar.
[06:25:41] Just having sort of this kind of three cause items online for Mickaar,
[06:25:45] mask and monitor now on that every time he has to be able to drag and form online he's
[06:25:49] not going to be afraid to join the team fights looked to play for the objectives.
[06:25:53] There's also this hard lock down that they have on the side of liquid right now is problematic.
[06:25:57] Let's say Skeeter joins into a fight. He could just get changed on Blink's
[06:26:00] stun Blink's stun Blink like so many different follow-ups that they have for it.
[06:26:04] There we go. He's moments for fight over here.
[06:26:06] I make the jump with the dragon phone taking out again. He just can't catch a break on this wall
[06:26:10] up now. They see him. They kill him immediately.
[06:26:12] I think these next few moments for Falcons are kind of scary, but even though they have
[06:26:16] this lotus for a mar, they have ways to fly fast. They're looking for a wraparound.
[06:26:19] Trying to catch liquid off-guard.
[06:26:21] I'm catching these from a pretty huge.
[06:26:23] And he's coming into the top and he's just going to get the chance to see them.
[06:26:26] Look, the assimilates goes and get a flight finder for when he's initially still got an asshole
[06:26:30] to have fed a plane with. He'll get away from them, etc. That's impossible.
[06:26:33] He just jumps back in, gets a kill, not going to get away with his TP out at the end of it all.
[06:26:38] the end of it all but definitely shakes them up and that sort of
[06:26:41] Falcon showing their hand they're trying to make a move with the
[06:26:43] epicenter but as it was Nisha Wolves in is able to sort of assess
[06:26:48] the situation jumps out and even at this point right even if they
[06:26:52] look at the catch on a niche is pretty tanky.
[06:26:54] It's a stick around up there so they're still first from that one to
[06:26:57] try and be in position to contest the 20 minute toolman zone.
[06:27:00] It's also that you don't know where everybody is there's multiple
[06:27:03] different saves on this line up either a lick to pull them out of the
[06:27:05] stun from the hood wink or just a snowball.
[06:27:07] It's not the easiest to go to ever really go for an isha there. They are set up for storm.
[06:27:13] Liquid gonna look to contest this. They don't have dragon form.
[06:27:17] They're considering.
[06:27:22] And they're coming. Nick is dragon forms up into a 20 seconds. Box is in the area.
[06:27:27] No epic center for 40 seconds.
[06:27:30] That's the thing we're at the leash. And I look at it and not.
[06:27:33] Gonna let Bowcon freely take it. They want to keep Bowcon's in the cause.
[06:27:36] They're getting pushed away.
[06:27:42] After a little last few jumps, you can only imagine right, snaking nose.
[06:27:45] How carefully has got to be with his positioning?
[06:27:48] Liquid that's been finding him at the start, the moves,
[06:27:50] and it does take away the potential of a f***ing piece together.
[06:27:53] A team fight.
[06:27:54] And as it is, you know, Falcons that just sort of been bullied out of this position at the map
[06:27:58] and liquid themselves, able to head over, get this tournament self,
[06:28:01] with Falcons now being nowhere around.
[06:28:04] they're going to try for the trade. Go for this road to me. I was going to be very quick
[06:28:09] to react to this. You know, with the way that Falcons is back, tough. They know that
[06:28:13] Falcons did look to try and attempt to make this trade. They're not going to get away with it.
[06:28:17] They have to, again, head back away from the situation. Liquid that pulling Falcons away from
[06:28:22] multiple key objectives.
[06:28:25] Falcons is scared to take this fight into this logo. It does feel like you can be incredibly
[06:28:29] problematic. They don't just insta-kill a target. This long fight for liquid can be very strong.
[06:28:33] The longer and longer to fight the better and better, it does feel like for Liquid as Falcons.
[06:28:37] Gonna walk it into the high ground.
[06:29:03] playing Falcons away from the toolmen to our way from the Roshaan, and then Falcons
[06:29:08] in a sort of an almost a moment of desperation, make that go and attempt with Marie, it's
[06:29:13] off the mark.
[06:29:14] He doesn't get a clean catch, it doesn't get a clean jump, and the counter plays there,
[06:29:18] but see, more than ready, I think it's time to kind of get this three-man shot set up,
[06:29:22] easily makes it sure that the fight is in position for me to jump forward, help clean
[06:29:27] the team up, catch it pretty much all three of them, that it's down to Johnson, all three
[06:29:31] It can't be prettier. I don't know what else this A cannot be more beautiful than that from Liquid.
[06:29:38] Literally absolutely amazing perfect disengaging Falcons a pretty big slip-up trying to go up the
[06:29:44] Hygron there too. Looking for Ace. He's got save too even if they connect on him.
[06:29:48] Boxy can potentially snowball save too. So a very aggressive move from Falcons.
[06:29:52] Liquid. Very prepared these last five minutes. It's all Liquid now.
[06:29:56] It really is onto the tier 2's now liquid
[06:30:00] Okay, with the pressure down on the bottom lane very close to being able to pick up the VKB
[06:30:06] Now, I need you just having this ages. I mean absolutely popping off this game on the void spirit
[06:30:12] Proving to be a very solid pick as the way it is also thought that they can't catch him
[06:30:17] And even if they do as you say they've got ways to bail on each year out. I mean honestly so far
[06:30:21] He's not really need need it bailing out because they don't even get close to killing him
[06:30:55] They seem to make it alone, but his BKB is on its way.
[06:31:02] Shep.
[06:31:04] He's in a realm of Maori and beyond the South.
[06:31:07] They look at niches positioning. Look how confident he's playing now.
[06:31:10] Especially with all his energy.
[06:31:11] What are they going to do? What are they going to do about?
[06:31:14] Liquid have completely hipped their stride, being able to get those timings.
[06:31:17] Getting the agonemies on the lorigo.
[06:31:19] You could see if I can see when you were mentioning, right?
[06:31:21] right when they thought that they wanted to make that play top, it did feel a kind of a forced issue.
[06:31:25] Way earlier.
[06:31:27] Yeah, this sort of mixed game.
[06:31:29] I moved from liquid continues to succeed.
[06:31:31] They get the jump in on towards them all.
[06:31:33] They found a fish, bristle.
[06:31:35] Not the bristle we saw earlier this series.
[06:31:37] Not at all. Two, six, some one. He's having a rough one, folks.
[06:31:41] But if you games for a more that he has had a rough one,
[06:31:45] the doom one he was honestly, of course, crushing,
[06:31:47] same thing with the first bristle, but these other two ones he has that.
[06:31:49] these other two ones he has that like what one in nine and then this one as well two two and six
[06:31:53] no space for him. Skeeter trying to buy time but their their map is shrinking and so quickly on
[06:32:01] the side of Falcons. Yeah look we're gonna kind of continue to just ignore Skeeter for a moment.
[06:32:07] Just keep the pressure on on these lanes, continue to clean up these objectives, grow this lead,
[06:32:12] 12k advantage here and it's starting to build up very fast and it was just 25 minutes coming
[06:32:17] up into the game, liquid getting a massively to this point.
[06:32:22] Falkans, it's just been a while since we've seen them being able to pull together
[06:32:25] a successful move, liquid a step ahead.
[06:32:28] I don't know where the damage is going to come from from Falkans at this point.
[06:32:31] I got to be honest with you.
[06:32:32] Look, the weaver, since he's got this slower damage build with the weon there, there
[06:32:36] are just so tanky on the enemy side that how do they actually focus fire any of these
[06:32:41] heroes?
[06:32:42] Look in for boxy.
[06:32:52] And you know that the duplicate out, they get this fog because they use the couple of odds for him.
[06:32:57] Though they will find him.
[06:32:58] Which is how they can get out though.
[06:33:00] Because times been bought for niche in a swing across.
[06:33:03] It's got the catch on a snake king.
[06:33:05] So whilst they might have got the task, that's quite a heavy investment to take that support down.
[06:33:10] And I didn't want to highlight Misha's build a bit here, too.
[06:33:13] Not going for this agonist build that we see almost all the Void spirits through.
[06:33:16] He's gone of his own kind of route.
[06:33:18] Spiritfest went to Kaia, Yasha, and then the Shiva, as this is standard.
[06:33:21] But the spell-up he's going to have in fights is the same with Largo.
[06:33:25] Sure he's not providing a silence, but they don't need that silence as we've seen in the fights.
[06:33:29] Ah, let's just kill him.
[06:33:30] They just kill him all.
[06:33:31] And it's liquid approach.
[06:33:33] Having difficulty seeing where Falcons goes from here,
[06:33:36] from here besides just split and try to get to some of these next bigger items, but even
[06:33:41] when these next bigger items come out, it's not fixing damage issues. It's helping them
[06:33:45] in terms of survivability. But the look at heroes are getting stronger in terms of damage
[06:33:49] and healing and takeability. The 3300 HP long ago.
[06:33:58] I'm not killing a saying song soon unless the catch can completely learn. And even then
[06:34:01] He's gonna get a long time to sing his song.
[06:34:04] It's from that end of the day.
[06:34:06] In the last like 11 minutes or so, they've killed Boxy, Boxy, Boxy,
[06:34:11] and then one Largo.
[06:34:13] It's just been Boxy being the kind of that sacrifice for the team.
[06:34:18] Now, they could just have to play that little bit better around their coals right now.
[06:34:22] Fowkins haven't really managed to do just saying much and quite a while.
[06:34:26] I mean, where'd you think they're looking towards?
[06:34:27] You know, if you're fowkins west, where's the combat club?
[06:34:29] Come back, buddy.
[06:34:30] You're in Gang 5.
[06:34:31] It's Gang 6.
[06:34:32] Got a sniff away from you.
[06:34:33] I'll say you're out of the tournament.
[06:34:34] It's got to be some fatal bond high ground every play.
[06:34:38] But forcing it to be kid-bees is complicated.
[06:34:41] Also, all right.
[06:34:42] They're just taking.
[06:34:43] It's going to get clips of what?
[06:34:44] By the ice bar.
[06:34:46] Okay.
[06:34:47] You'll be fine, but still in taking quite the hit.
[06:34:50] And he's on the step out on the map.
[06:34:52] I'll liquid absolutely having the damage to burst through any of the heroes right
[06:34:56] now that Falcons present.
[06:34:57] Topos about to have grieves as well, so an extra element of damage that they need to go through
[06:35:08] And Ace has a full BKB
[06:35:12] Incredibly durable keeping controls keeping falcons to take they will fight tofu catching him off
[06:35:17] Keep that last sort of moment of TP
[06:35:20] There's something but of course everyone else on liquid
[06:35:24] Completely out of the area
[06:35:27] But it's cool too. In this game is that Mika doesn't even have to go for Silver Edge because of the way that the whole game state has gone.
[06:35:34] They've just completely destroyed a mar in any state of this that they don't even care. They're like whatever. We don't need the break.
[06:35:39] He's just gonna get turned or we'll just kill him right through it anyway.
[06:35:42] Full data list now for Mika.
[06:35:44] Okay, I'm thinking, we're gonna talk about it. I'm gonna get into jump on a snacking.
[06:35:48] Killing his curry, I'm killing him as well, taking his bounty. I mean, Mika, he's just taking a...
[06:35:52] Holy!
[06:35:54] Straight up, bully.
[06:35:55] Now, snaking, getting caught out, five times now, so that these moments where it's, you know, without the ball, because I say they can't really piece together, it's in fight.
[06:36:05] Ah, that's odd of the skitter.
[06:36:07] Boxing's out of the trail.
[06:36:09] That's ready.
[06:36:10] Let's get the dragon tear off.
[06:36:12] Into the punch, to damage.
[06:36:14] That's a little quite a boost up in the time-lapse thing.
[06:36:17] And we'll get the security off.
[06:36:19] Okay, with the bug upon him as well, we'll not be able to get a blink off any time soon.
[06:36:23] The speed of might just be able to get away with this. Back over on the mid though,
[06:36:27] Nisha and Ace killing off a mar. He got the PKP off, but literally like the final
[06:36:32] milliseconds of his life. He couldn't get it off in time. He's out for 40 seconds.
[06:36:36] And they look from our in as well. I'm wearing out to jump away with the borrower strike.
[06:36:41] They're going to stop when you're going to hit late.
[06:36:43] Well, Lago actually gets the play and buff up a court. It does look insane.
[06:36:47] You know, he's looking at this boy spirit with this amp damage, with a half damage.
[06:36:50] magic amp and as well as everything else close to reverb starting to see well not
[06:36:55] starting but starting to love when you can see the logo get to actually play as pretty
[06:37:00] much as full agonms as well in each of those that's going to be flying out very
[06:37:03] soon by a hundred gold away what if catch an ask come out from fountains liquid
[06:37:07] approaching the hydrant they're going to try for the jump on each of them get
[06:37:10] the good set up this time they'll get the bus they'll take him down elsewhere though
[06:37:14] comes in a price skewed against court by the rest and liquid out in the map so
[06:37:19] Even when they're fighting something, it's a big something,
[06:37:21] you know, finally being able to take niche it down.
[06:37:24] Obviously, as it is though, the money ends up going
[06:37:26] the way of Cretz, and no sort of, like,
[06:37:27] the same influx of gold from Maureen,
[06:37:29] which he would have hoped for.
[06:37:30] And they lose their carry still.
[06:37:31] Maureen, get the jump put a toe for him,
[06:37:33] and then it's ready to heal him up, get him out of there.
[06:37:35] Tocans can be perfectly OK.
[06:37:38] Now, she's looking to turn back to Wall's Maureen,
[06:37:40] and the liquid he said they can keep fighting.
[06:37:44] Is this the same thing I'm going to say about the gold going to do?
[06:37:47] I was like, man, now I'm really looking
[06:37:49] up, just to accelerate anything
[06:37:50] because they need anything that you get at
[06:37:52] this point.
[06:37:53] They're really doing as they face
[06:37:54] intro hold out, Mari.
[06:37:57] I can jump one small, but in turn,
[06:37:58] Oxi was actually trying to see if you
[06:37:59] can get the punch on towards and you
[06:38:00] won't get it, but they come just
[06:38:01] getting a drop down here.
[06:38:02] I'm just afraid of them.
[06:38:03] It's not a mobile bike box in
[06:38:04] little for the safety.
[06:38:06] We'll get loads of stairs.
[06:38:07] They'll come back over the walls
[06:38:08] and buy a truck from Mari
[06:38:09] and onto the two at the
[06:38:10] box in making it, can't
[06:38:11] fly, but A's again, keep in
[06:38:12] them safe.
[06:38:13] The louds, bobs, see the
[06:38:14] retreat out of the fight.
[06:38:16] The respect of Falcons defense for now, liquid starting that hold off.
[06:38:21] I'm getting a grab on a suit, too.
[06:38:23] Put off yet.
[06:38:24] They're going to try and chase them down, half Anisha,
[06:38:26] respawning, teaping over to the output.
[06:38:28] She's going to be ready to join them.
[06:38:31] So Falcons, they can't push into liquid any further than out.
[06:38:34] The Anisha's back in the game.
[06:38:36] They tried to push as much as they could,
[06:38:38] while this DK form was wearing down Anisha was dead,
[06:38:40] but they just can't deal with them.
[06:38:41] Asus heal, she's providing as too much.
[06:38:43] They're back at the full, ready to fight.
[06:38:45] rush about 30 seconds as well and that was honestly that was quite a lot that falcons just
[06:38:50] threw out there to get these kills it will have happy but don't yeah contesting outside
[06:38:55] is very dangerous for them do they take the risk don't think so I just gotta be tempting
[06:39:07] they are still there in a tough spot I think yeah you do have to try for something I mean the
[06:39:12] The line's not being drawn, though, it's towards the rose shant, but it's like they
[06:39:15] want to try and hope that they catch someone split, jumping alone.
[06:39:19] Maybe they're feeding them.
[06:39:21] Maybe they're trying to beat them, or it's like, I'm liquid.
[06:39:24] They might fall for it.
[06:39:26] They're smoking up aggressively themselves.
[06:39:27] They are going to go for this fight after a march shows in the mid.
[06:39:30] The question is...
[06:39:31] The track and the team fight and tell about these gout, that they hear a straight flip.
[06:39:34] The track and tell, stunned, into the post-clak, was thrown away to just for a later
[06:39:38] one.
[06:39:39] the back of the team caught by the silence.
[06:39:41] You need your computer's right personal.
[06:39:42] Get the time to some American people to come up with a call
[06:39:44] for you.
[06:39:44] They take it up to three of them and a mass of vines.
[06:39:47] Get the big hit me off run so I save you set for married.
[06:39:49] Who also gets to walk out of the fight,
[06:39:51] a post like Lockdown, East,
[06:39:53] and the grandnets there.
[06:39:54] Don't get the silence for an onto what's key to Bonsie.
[06:39:56] Come in there with the vibe I'm making
[06:39:58] another day of the jump for us to catch Peter out.
[06:40:01] Create also trapped by the jads.
[06:40:04] There was a moment that were it looked like maybe
[06:40:06] the
[06:40:09] two kills towards the end of the fight
[06:40:11] and set slick with to get back on
[06:40:13] with the push up to the high ground
[06:40:15] despite how it's managed to get a
[06:40:17] little bit of a team fight going
[06:40:18] around Mount Reen gets some of
[06:40:20] those kills. It's still not quite
[06:40:22] enough. It looks pretty for a second
[06:40:24] because the BKB was on cooldown
[06:40:25] for four seconds on the DK
[06:40:27] that bring in down and then
[06:40:28] I'm just watching ace in the
[06:40:30] shot full HP killing everybody.
[06:40:31] A literal 2v5 pretty much
[06:40:33] just walking through. Botsie's
[06:40:34] through. Boxes by back to clean it up, helps, but yeah these two, just way too strong at this
[06:40:39] point. They had to commit a lot to get this DK. That's the runner-up and the quince.
[06:40:46] They're healing, sending 17k lead and you just sort of that team fight sustain, as you say,
[06:40:52] around this core logo. It's seeming to be a perfect answer really to the sort of playstyle
[06:40:58] that Falcons wanted to hit with them with when they sort of run this bristle wall up,
[06:41:02] Sanking combo right. I think it's a really clever
[06:41:08] actual answer to the sanking because because he's put in this core role he's very
[06:41:13] tanky innately so if he's able to just survive and the fight continues last and
[06:41:17] log it will counteract the complete epicenter so and the wall at the right the
[06:41:21] dispels as we're seeing multiple times we've been able to do that.
[06:41:26] Very good.
[06:41:27] Fighters and they're good.
[06:41:28] There's like a pick-in play for nice really bringing together the team fight
[06:41:35] presence from Liquid and to a level that Falcons they just don't have the answer for
[06:41:40] right now.
[06:41:41] We'll see again here on the replay and in the season of parts of this we did see them
[06:41:45] get this stuff and get some kills to start it.
[06:41:47] They trip up the Dragonite to start cause issues from Mick K and then at the side, Marrying
[06:41:52] getting into the center, Shorgets burst slow, but getting the chance to get those
[06:41:56] Those get out. It almost looks like Falcons might have had a chance to take this fight away.
[06:42:02] Almost. It's just ace and ace and ace and ace of literally full HP. This crazy how much they can sustain.
[06:42:09] And I make a BKB. It goes on cooldown. So it's a pretty ideal time for them to try to jump there.
[06:42:15] Now with Aegis, wave's coming in. Look good.
[06:42:18] We're going to seal the deal soon.
[06:42:23] Falcons, any next big pick-up.
[06:42:27] Refresh your suit from our raid pretty close to being done.
[06:42:31] I mean, the next pick is one for Sheridan.
[06:42:33] Again, we kind of had a game like this earlier in the series, right where pressure was on
[06:42:37] Maureen to be the one to turn the game around and make that sort of crazy play.
[06:42:40] It was on one of the primal games, of course.
[06:42:42] This time on the Sanking, when there were freshers that there is up, there's potential right.
[06:42:47] But it has to be flawless from him. If they're able to sort of bring together that team fight, you know at the end of day, fight opons with a good epicenter
[06:42:56] It's still crazy amounts of damage, but it has to come out perfectly to stand a chance. That's slowing like with down
[06:43:03] I feel like they can kill one of the cores. I don't think he'll going to feel it's too. There's so terrible. But I let's say me the double happy
[06:43:11] And say that's going to be possible, because this saves also just very difficult.
[06:43:17] Make it can just put himself up on the front line.
[06:43:20] As I'm married.
[06:43:22] He's going to go for it.
[06:43:24] It's good job with the star.
[06:43:25] Lines are the boys trying to put face out, make it defensive.
[06:43:27] Double comes in though.
[06:43:28] Once the boys make it, keep it in safe.
[06:43:30] Marrying, you have to put the refreshes in just if the sick of boys going to get out of there.
[06:43:33] We'll get punched up.
[06:43:34] Five ball, see.
[06:43:35] Marrying.
[06:43:36] Take it out.
[06:43:37] Get for 18.
[06:43:38] No.
[06:43:39] to the look to push back on the supports and move on to your boxy off.
[06:43:42] That turn was tofu, but Skida has to climb up to away from the rest of Liquid.
[06:43:46] It was indeed a little bit.
[06:43:47] Again, the cause of Liquid's sitting up pretty much for HP, a mask couldn't even finish
[06:43:51] up the second support tofu remains by.
[06:43:54] Knees should back him with another red man grab off to a mark.
[06:43:57] The dragon's help will get reflected, but a mask in trouble they're trying for us in
[06:44:01] back.
[06:44:02] Knees should fully in the back to the fountains.
[06:44:04] Three dead on fountains.
[06:44:06] The supports may fall on liquid, but the cause stands strong.
[06:44:10] The tofu, unfortunately, already did what they needed to, in the fight.
[06:44:13] Made the counterplace to the initiations from Falcons.
[06:44:17] Set the situation up for, again, liquids caused to just seemingly be untouchable in these
[06:44:22] team fights for.
[06:44:23] And then they're still going to say, OK, back in with the jump, the fight's naked,
[06:44:27] snaking to Paul O'Kummer with the fight back.
[06:44:29] Then the critter and the tree line will manage to get away, back to the sake of the
[06:44:33] If a skita gets burst, they get him with the job Lisha picks up another 12-1 and 12-list game from the mid-boy spirit
[06:44:40] And I'll continue to rack up that KDA another catch, Mick Kay diving up to the fountain, snaking that's a dive-back from him
[06:44:48] Liquid looking to close this series up
[06:44:51] And they'll get the Mega Street Unity, the GG is called a liquid
[06:44:55] We'll do it here today in the best of five against falcons, looking falcons out
[06:45:01] Liquid, them moving on bulk with this game five-fig tree.
[06:45:05] Honestly, Nisha went super Saiyan today.
[06:45:07] I do have to say it.
[06:45:08] This whole series, even the games when they were struggling, he was popping off and most of them.
[06:45:12] This game in particular, yeah, this was an instant performance on the voice spirit.
[06:45:16] They rallied around and they buffed them a lot.
[06:45:18] But he made those buffs look fantastic.
[06:45:20] The rotations, and he shot down a Mars Super hard with all of his moves.
[06:45:23] Only dies the once breaks a couple of the games to you.
[06:45:26] You'd make it epic and get used onto him.
[06:45:28] That was really heads up stuff.
[06:45:29] stuff from their game plan. Absolutely work for this game. Yeah, confident pick, you know,
[06:45:34] that I feel like the mids, they wouldn't necessarily have the confidence to sort of pick that
[06:45:38] point spread into this Maori in-sanking situation. They are Nisha absolutely destroying them
[06:45:44] throughout the game. Incredible performance from him. It's off one today here from Falcons,
[06:45:49] they're not going to be moving on at Blastland 6, Liquid. Just as a team, and it was even
[06:45:55] Great back and forth best of five. Don't get me wrong for me. I had a lot of fun with this one
[06:45:59] But you could definitely feel it that when it came to the crunch time liquid
[06:46:03] They were just able to hold it all a little bit better together in comparison to power-conspoke
[06:46:08] You could feel it in some of the games two in terms of that early aggression the way that they were kind of piecing things
[06:46:12] It did maybe a bit inevitable. We did hear it
[06:46:15] I think from a more they talked about on the panel a little bit there. He said the screws were not going the greatest versus liquid and liquid today
[06:46:20] Definitely brain-so-preying in a best of five. Absolutely
[06:46:23] And in the best of five way, you know, let's start to the finish a bit of a turn to the tail right.
[06:46:28] It started with that first pick bristle, a mar had an insane game on the bristle back,
[06:46:33] but come to be all important game five.
[06:46:35] Liquid say, you know what you can do it again here.
[06:46:38] But this time we're going to have the counts as, and my goodness did they.
[06:46:41] Like this bristle had such a tough game this time round.
[06:46:44] It felt like every single time he's sure was getting with the remnant turnaround.
[06:46:48] I felt like I think five or six fights in a row.
[06:46:50] in a row and then honestly this largo pick versus all three of those, like you mentioned,
[06:46:54] right?
[06:46:55] The warlocked the brist on the sinking fights, the damage that comes in maybe not
[06:46:57] the fastest overall.
[06:46:59] If the largo is able to sing a song, get the items, he did, he got to sit back and
[06:47:03] get that axe, it a good timing, we saw the prowess, we saw the power of it, that was
[06:47:07] really cool.
[06:47:08] Not so good.
[06:47:09] That's something that's, that can be kind of easy to forget, right?
[06:47:10] When we see some of these support, logo games, not go too hard, you know, and
[06:47:13] they're here, I can look a little bit underwhelming, but when it comes to the offlaners,
[06:47:17] and we know of our off-laneers as well.
[06:47:19] They do like to play the logo,
[06:47:21] so I'm pretty sure after watching this game from Ace,
[06:47:23] Ace, he's going to want to bring it back more.
[06:47:25] Other teams as well, they're going to want to get this
[06:47:27] here and back out in that position three,
[06:47:29] as indeed here today, absolutely provided the key answer
[06:47:32] to what Falcons wanted to do against Liquid.
[06:47:34] Liquid coming out on top today, this series is there.
[06:47:37] So they're moving on here at Blast Lamb 6.
[06:47:39] Liquid, take the best of five, three against two versus Falcons.
[06:47:43] Yeah, thanks. I'm here with Blitz to catch for Team Liquid. Will my friend, first of all,
[06:47:51] yep. That was a long, those series. How did it feel for you and how did it feel for the
[06:47:56] players? It felt amazing. Generally, we hate heroic so much. So we wanted this series to last as long
[06:48:02] as humanly possible. I hear that God here, like 3 p.m., and they screwed us so hard by losing
[06:48:08] that one best of one in the base to miles. And so we're like me and Curtis, we're like,
[06:48:12] We need to make this like a 95-minute game.
[06:48:14] You pick Codel, we pick Trees.
[06:48:16] So I'm glad that everyone five.
[06:48:18] Well, thank you for not making it.
[06:48:19] Quite as miserable as it could have been.
[06:48:21] But you guys have two more best of five,
[06:48:23] especially if you make it to the final.
[06:48:24] How hard is it for the players to have that stamina
[06:48:27] given through potentially three days of being at five?
[06:48:29] It's a lot, but I actually quite like the format.
[06:48:31] I think you get to really see who is better prepared
[06:48:34] and who the better team is.
[06:48:36] I think, for example, if we just two one,
[06:48:39] you don't really get to learn anything,
[06:48:40] But I think after a best of five, you're like,
[06:48:41] okay, we probably are the better team.
[06:48:43] At least for today.
[06:48:44] And so I'm pretty excited about it.
[06:48:46] I think my guys play like 20 games a day.
[06:48:49] You know, we're famous for the amount of data that we play.
[06:48:51] And so I think five games is no problem.
[06:48:54] Fantastic.
[06:48:55] If there was one player that you had to name,
[06:48:58] I was thinking this was kind of like a times the niche issue.
[06:49:01] I felt like, do you think that's a fair assessment?
[06:49:03] Or is that just me being a new?
[06:49:04] No, I think niche had an excellent series.
[06:49:06] For me personally, I thought like,
[06:49:08] I thought tofu had like a pretty unreal series
[06:49:11] and the way that he was calling in this game.
[06:49:13] And some of his ideas, I think, were pretty incredible.
[06:49:15] And so I probably give tofu most of the credit for this one.
[06:49:19] Fantastic.
[06:49:20] All right, and last question, you guys have OG tomorrow.
[06:49:24] What do you expect from that series?
[06:49:25] How have you prepared for that series?
[06:49:27] Because I know that you said to me,
[06:49:28] you've played Falcons a lot lately.
[06:49:30] You guys have been scribbling and stuff.
[06:49:31] How much have you played OG?
[06:49:32] What are you expecting from them?
[06:49:35] I think they're a really good team right now.
[06:49:37] I think they are fun team to play against because they are kind of like us.
[06:49:40] It's going to be like, you know, those scenes are like rams, just like ram into each other, like at max speed.
[06:49:45] That's kind of what I expect out of it.
[06:49:47] And so yeah, I think it's going to be a really good one.
[06:49:49] I don't know.
[06:49:50] We'll see what happens.
[06:49:52] Indeed, we will.
[06:49:53] Well, thank you so much.
[06:49:54] That was a really entertaining series shot.
[06:49:56] It's a team liquid.
[06:49:57] Thanks for taking the chance to chat with us and back to the panel.
[06:49:59] It was an amazing game, a number five for the Mendeau, I'm not going to say it was the
[06:50:11] cleanest, but it was definitely one of the most enjoyable ones to get to watch, yeah.
[06:50:14] Yeah, sometimes you just have niche on your team and he locks and goes full niche on
[06:50:17] all guide.
[06:50:18] And you just win the game off of it.
[06:50:19] This guy is a beast, he's a beast on a boyfriend and he is a treat to watch.
[06:50:24] Yeah, honestly, I mean, this guy, he just straight up cooked like this entire series.
[06:50:28] We question his items in that game one, but I think here and also on the other game he played
[06:50:31] He's just kind of making all the right moves not dying. He's in the right place at the right time
[06:50:35] Doing the correct thing helping his team like always coming in clutch. So yeah, I think liquid
[06:50:39] Kind of cooked there. I mean it first where doesn't T.P. doesn't make these moves then
[06:50:43] Maybe the game's different, but was it vessel into Kire into that instantly getting the shot farming?
[06:50:48] I mean, yeah, if Nisha did play this well, then maybe we have a different you know winning this, but yeah, he popped off so hard
[06:50:53] The shard was at 15 costrust. It was at 7. I was right. I'm on that. I'm looking at a lot of things every second
[06:50:59] The path. I just got up there on the stage already telling me who it hurt me. I did check the replay for that very reason
[06:51:04] So he is safe from Queens. He's a true boy spirit player. And I understand
[06:51:14] I respect the crap out of it. I love this man for this. Who sides by the way? I felt like played so over his balance. They're like, yeah
[06:51:22] I'm also giga-chad on this hero. I'm just gonna dive every tower across the weekend.
[06:51:25] But even like after this, the harness we see here,
[06:51:28] well, which I'm just mentioning into, like tomorrow,
[06:51:31] another best of five OG Liquid. Like this type of gameplay from Liquid?
[06:51:34] Yeah, it's copying past the OG that is same type of theme. So it is gonna be just hilarious to watch those two teams.
[06:51:43] But this was the biggest plunder of the game from South Wales. That's been real.
[06:51:45] Yeah, I mean, we'll get into this one later as well, because I do think they were like a couple of more like
[06:51:50] keep moments but I think for Liquid I definitely see them like powering up. I mean I did feel similar for
[06:51:54] five times too but it was more about like their early game. Like I think they've always had like a very
[06:51:58] sort of like zero to like 12 minutes and you get the stacks from our ring. He gets the link he makes
[06:52:02] his moves. He gets the first four, five active runes but then there was always like one or two
[06:52:07] very critical moments in the game that I feel like didn't really go their way. They had it like one
[06:52:10] thing game one, you know they have a really cool war to have the night's vision. They make it happen
[06:52:14] but in this game I just feel like Liquid really understood where they needed to be with the heroes
[06:52:18] especially to me like Nisha and Boxi, like all of the snowball saving the remnants to be there at the right place just clutch
[06:52:23] I mean, then the top of that you then have the coin flip off lane here of Logo this time around it actually lands on liquid not fountains and yeah, he just
[06:52:29] He just doesn't job, you know, he sits back. He's going to score like at some point. It was like
[06:52:34] It wasn't too impressive, but you know, he had the axe then suddenly hit the fire car and said that he gets his BKB and then all these like in this fire at least he's just hugging the jaccair or keeping in the life
[06:52:42] You can see like when Lager actually gets online, he is just an absolute monster.
[06:52:46] Finishing 3 to 18 just constantly buffing up their supports and killing off a snowball
[06:52:51] tusk. That's kind of difficult. A four star figure also kind of difficult.
[06:52:54] Throw heels and move feet on top of that. You know Lager, it can be volatile but in this game
[06:52:59] for Liquid, it was very, very important.
[06:53:01] Yeah, I mean we saw that that fight mid though. We were thinking this was going to go
[06:53:05] fucking way, this is the tending point of the game and instead what's left over is Disha
[06:53:11] and logo, right, Aces logo and he's just getting absolutely buffed by this logo who's getting a full duration BTB and like I don't know if we really can't do anything once this man starts strumming his guitar
[06:53:20] Yeah, I mean, I think that fight displays just the damaged problems that Falkens has at some point in that game
[06:53:25] I think this weaver response into logo is probably a misunderstanding of the matchups since Lord of such a new hero
[06:53:30] People don't really fully understand but you could definitely see and both of the games that Falkens picked weaver at some point their damage kind of drops off a cliff
[06:53:36] if they start losing fights and it becomes a big problem.
[06:53:38] So I think, liquid day, they understood the meta a little bit better, you know,
[06:53:42] blitz set it in these best of five.
[06:53:44] You, I think the team that wins oftentimes is the better team on that day.
[06:53:47] The team understands the meta better, the team that figured more stuff out.
[06:53:50] And I think liquid day, they had a better grasp of things.
[06:53:53] They had some clutch picks in this series.
[06:53:54] While Falcons had the first pick, which is winning pretty much every game for the series,
[06:53:58] they played against it and they still beat it through some, some ingenuity.
[06:54:01] So I think all props to liquid day are in this one.
[06:54:03] Yeah, and I think also like they just understand,
[06:54:05] Like, in all these fights, I feel like he's not really getting targeted.
[06:54:08] Like, he's kind of like the, he's the sleeper guy.
[06:54:09] You know, he just brings his guitar, but like all the honor and the boss that he just allows everyone to like just keep going in the fight and they have to make it on like the super giant normal DK,
[06:54:17] who just then kind of shredding everyone.
[06:54:18] So I think it's still like you hear that it's like a little misunderstood like myself included.
[06:54:22] Like, I don't really know how good he is, but this hero, I think you need to pay a little more attention to him.
[06:54:26] Yeah, I feel like there is one here that isn't misunderstood by any means.
[06:54:30] and that's the Dicarro, which I think was very key
[06:54:32] in that 2021 minute fight
[06:54:34] that again, kind of really stopped the momentum
[06:54:36] of the side of Falcon's day.
[06:54:38] Go into liquids, try their thinking
[06:54:40] that they're able to just get something from those
[06:54:43] to be able to take rush afterwards.
[06:54:44] And instead, they hit that choke point again
[06:54:46] because it said it's been an issue previously.
[06:54:48] And to forget the great ice bottle of Dicarro.
[06:54:50] I mean, first of all, that hero is,
[06:54:51] I don't know how Dicarro is this good for this long,
[06:54:54] but also like what we need to show
[06:54:55] and I think about this, this is what's,
[06:54:57] this is what's happening on that, right?
[06:54:58] You go for the tormented trade
[06:54:59] with the roll shit at the same time.
[06:55:01] This is incredible, like, crucial point of the game.
[06:55:04] So Faulkner's decided to,
[06:55:05] we're gonna try to give it up and we go for a roll.
[06:55:07] But liquid day on the sand is they're like,
[06:55:08] instantiating everyone into the triangle
[06:55:10] to be there, like immediately.
[06:55:12] Where's Faulkner's gonna say, okay, we back up,
[06:55:13] we small, the problem is, I don't know exactly what happened,
[06:55:16] but they missed their day butcher their initiation quite hard.
[06:55:19] But obviously, turns around, they go for the small ball shards.
[06:55:21] I mean, you're gonna see the rest basically,
[06:55:23] everyone just immediately dies.
[06:55:24] Liquid from this, they get torn, Tp, 4 kills, ages,
[06:55:28] It was rough. After this point, I think there's very little chance of coming back.
[06:55:33] This is the window of the game where when you look at Falcon's, they need to just execute
[06:55:38] in that moment. They have the ability to play the version, they have the mirror, they have
[06:55:41] Lotus, they have blinked there, the person was ready to stand up front, they don't connect
[06:55:44] cleanly, but they keep chasing. And when they chase, of course, Foxy hits the three-man
[06:55:48] shot, he has the shot, and it's all over from there. As much as they could did really well,
[06:55:54] If Falcons just won, that's sloppy there.
[06:55:57] They might have contested the day just they might have
[06:55:58] got him killed.
[06:55:59] That was their timing and they kind of just shot themselves
[06:56:01] in the foot very quickly.
[06:56:03] I mean, it's just tough.
[06:56:04] That's how Dota is, right?
[06:56:05] There's no resets.
[06:56:06] There's no, we're okay with him.
[06:56:08] His day is now we're fine again.
[06:56:09] We try again, no.
[06:56:10] When you make mistakes, that keeps getting snowballed
[06:56:12] while when you're playing it.
[06:56:12] His team is good as liquid is these little slip ups.
[06:56:15] You don't get, you don't get a comeback.
[06:56:17] You don't get a free beat.
[06:56:17] There's no Mulligans.
[06:56:18] Especially like B.O.5, fifth game, minute 25.
[06:56:21] Like you're going roll as it feels weird.
[06:56:23] like guys we can't do roast like back off smoke and like I do think there's like
[06:56:27] extra dots that creep into mine when it comes to game number five in a best to five
[06:56:31] whether that's because it's normally in the finals or whatever it is it's just not able
[06:56:36] to come to the full fruition but there was still some crazy plays made from this
[06:56:39] side of Falco because we're gonna talk about it that loaders that came out onto the bristle
[06:56:43] but we again we thought there was gonna be a massive turnaround fall yeah there was always
[06:56:47] He's little bit more forceful.
[06:56:49] Check him out. Check him out. Check him out. Check me.
[06:56:51] Check me.
[06:56:52] Like, he saw how to do for him.
[06:56:54] He could have been a real good.
[06:56:55] Like, he was slow-moid.
[06:56:57] What? I saw this and I yelled in real life.
[06:56:59] I...
[06:57:00] I thought you yelled online.
[06:57:02] No, yeah, yeah, yelled online too.
[06:57:03] Like, good.
[06:57:05] Good. Wow.
[06:57:06] That's like the stun is like flying to him at like a melee range
[06:57:10] and then it's very, very impressive.
[06:57:13] And that's...
[06:57:14] I don't think I could even blink fast enough
[06:57:16] That dragon out of my screen because like my bro it's like he's not like he's that fast
[06:57:20] But it's also like I think you have to be aware of it like in the moment that like you have to be so ready for it
[06:57:25] So like I think that they just understood that maybe there's a chance that they could work like smokers
[06:57:29] This could have just been like a clean wife potentially
[06:57:32] Yeah, or like we're taking out everyone but that's one little thing can completely change it
[06:57:36] Yeah, it still wasn't enough because bucks. He also buys back. We already talked about that. He's also a fire. Yeah
[06:57:41] I was going to say, books are buying bags,
[06:57:43] then packed of bloggers,
[06:57:44] you should being essentially unstoppable there.
[06:57:47] It all cemented to an amazing game five
[06:57:50] and a best of five win for the side of liquid.
[06:57:53] That does unfortunately mean that Falcons themselves
[06:57:55] have not been able to win a best of five in Blossom.
[06:57:59] So we had a couple of words with Nick
[06:58:00] who can be far into part of the studio.
[06:58:03] Yeah, thanks.
[06:58:04] I'm here with Snake King of Team Falcons.
[06:58:06] Obviously, we've just sadly lost you
[06:58:07] so you guys lose three two in that series.
[06:58:09] It felt like those games were even even,
[06:58:13] and then it was like, it went off a cliff
[06:58:14] for one team just kind of rolled over the other.
[06:58:16] Did it feel like that's how you guys playing in the game?
[06:58:20] I think it was pretty back and forth.
[06:58:21] I didn't really feel like it was very one-sided.
[06:58:24] I think the series was pretty close overall.
[06:58:27] I think that kind of came down to you a lot
[06:58:29] of drafting and gameplay.
[06:58:31] I think sometimes we had the better draft
[06:58:32] of executed well and it looked very one-sided.
[06:58:34] And then the ice starts to happen
[06:58:36] with when they have good drafts and gameplay as well.
[06:58:39] I think in the last game, we made some blunders in the mid game, early game, and then like
[06:58:44] it just the game just became too hard to play, where it was hard for us to kill heroes,
[06:58:49] and we were just getting caught slowly and like, they're gaining leads solely but certainly.
[06:58:53] There was one fight just near the mid tier one on the diet side, and it looked like you
[06:58:59] guys were about to win the fight, and then it all just turned around.
[06:59:02] Was Lago a bit factor in this game, does it felt like he just kind of kept his team going
[06:59:06] in these long engagements?
[06:59:08] I don't think Largo had that big of impact this game.
[06:59:10] I think we just messed up the early mid game.
[06:59:13] And I personally think the weaver, like at some point,
[06:59:19] like it was hard for us to play with with Risa back.
[06:59:23] And I don't know, I think we just probably
[06:59:25] made some mistakes in the draft and game play.
[06:59:27] And it's gonna look bad when it goes wrong.
[06:59:31] You guys have played each other a lot lately.
[06:59:33] And Liquid seemed to have had the better review
[06:59:35] and scrims from what I've heard from,
[06:59:37] from Crit and from Will.
[06:59:38] What do you think you need to change the beat this team?
[06:59:41] I mean, we just need a shape up to be honest.
[06:59:43] We just haven't played very well as a team.
[06:59:45] I think coming into this class, we had pretty horrendous
[06:59:48] screen results, and we weren't feeling too good.
[06:59:51] So I think this result was justified.
[06:59:54] We just need to shape it up.
[06:59:56] Fair enough.
[06:59:56] So where do you think you're going to go from here
[06:59:59] as a team?
[06:59:59] How do you rebuild and sort of say, oh, well,
[07:00:01] well, not rebuild.
[07:00:02] That might be the wrong way to use.
[07:00:03] How do you regroup and come back and say,
[07:00:05] This is where we went wrong.
[07:00:07] Is it maybe the heroes that are in Metro
[07:00:09] and not your vibe?
[07:00:10] Or what is it?
[07:00:12] I mean, if we knew exactly, we would be fixing it.
[07:00:15] So I think, I think we'll just need to kind of like,
[07:00:19] we'll got the replays to see the gameplay mistake first.
[07:00:21] And then once we identify out a game building
[07:00:23] and say we can try to see what we can do better in draft.
[07:00:25] It's just going to be a step by step process.
[07:00:28] And it's just really going to take some time.
[07:00:32] OK, fair enough.
[07:00:33] Well, good luck taking that time.
[07:00:34] and we look forward to seeing you guys come back stronger than ever,
[07:00:36] snaking. Thank you so much. I'm very sorry to see you guys.
[07:00:39] It's always nice to hear from Snape, obviously not in an exit interview like that,
[07:00:44] but just very upfront and harsh about it. We've heard it from multiple
[07:00:47] Malcolm's members now that they weren't really in fantastic shape.
[07:00:50] In fact, they felt lucky enough to even make it here to molten.
[07:00:54] We were lucky enough to get to see five games between them and liquid.
[07:00:58] What did eventually now is liquid moving on to get to face up against OG tomorrow.
[07:01:04] I mean that will be we talked about it before but that will be an absolute barn burner to super aggressive teams
[07:01:09] I am I'm very excited for this one if it goes to distance as well
[07:01:12] It will be extremely hype and I think a real test of OG's metal because we've not seen them in a high pressure
[07:01:18] Best of five yet, so this will be testing grounds for them
[07:01:21] actually was like both teams also kind of deserve a grand finals based on like how the is going the story lines like OG kind of reemerging bring SBA back and then liquid
[07:01:29] they've made to one of a lot of things with this type of roster
[07:01:31] having, like, so I feel no matter what,
[07:01:33] background finals, going through the top side of the bracket
[07:01:35] is just, it's just gonna be a solid ground finals.
[07:01:38] I think it's also like the two teams that actually played
[07:01:40] a fastest, like before seeing Liquid today,
[07:01:42] I would have given OGD Edge now, I'm, like, not really short.
[07:01:45] I feel like every time Liquid played,
[07:01:46] they definitely have, like, you know,
[07:01:48] they're building some understanding, then they understand,
[07:01:49] okay, when can we play like super fast?
[07:01:51] When do we take a step back?
[07:01:52] How do we exchange our heroes?
[07:01:53] So I think that, for tomorrow, it's kind of the match that I'm looking at.
[07:01:56] And I think the other thing to also go back withalkins
[07:01:58] I think it's quite obvious and I think to also most of it they're very critical of like their game play
[07:02:03] Like you can tell by sinking in the interview and also like when they watch it even without we will tell them
[07:02:07] It's this and this you know don't talk about all the other stuff
[07:02:10] But because we know how good they are at the end of the day. It's a deal five. They went five games once more thing goes different and next time you mentioned when
[07:02:16] That's it. It was down to the absolute wire when it was between a Falcon and like good
[07:02:21] And we're gonna see if our next best of five is gonna go down to the wire as well
[07:02:25] But that's gonna be happening after this break
[07:04:28] When they step onto the stage in Malta, the past is done.
[07:04:33] The next series is everything.
[07:04:37] A heroic look shop in the play-ins, but play-offs is a different kind of pusher.
[07:04:42] Do they keep rolling or do those group stage crash show up yet again?
[07:04:48] At the end, they've been here before.
[07:04:51] Then had to head lost in groups. They're not calling an attorney. They're calling it fuel.
[07:04:57] Because they know how these brackets were. And they know how to turn a series into a run.
[07:05:03] Can veroa's rising star master the beast?
[07:05:07] Or do the veterans of Yendex, snap the leash, and drag this back to their face?
[07:05:13] One step deeper into the bracket.
[07:05:16] But only one team gets to take the win.
[07:05:19] welcome to the playoffs. Welcome to Blastam 6.
[07:05:28] When we're moving into our second half of the day,
[07:05:31] best of five is the only thing on the menu for us right now.
[07:05:34] And we get to see heroic and Yandex at the table.
[07:05:37] See exactly what they're going to be able to bring out for themselves.
[07:05:40] They did arrive early.
[07:05:42] Looks was not lanys interview.
[07:05:43] You guys caught that one.
[07:05:44] And they have been waiting around for some time.
[07:05:47] I do wonder, you know, the latest start for them, the fact that they had to see all five games early,
[07:05:52] is that an influence? Is that going to promise you it's not like outside right now?
[07:05:56] I would have no idea, we have a window.
[07:05:58] Uh, no. Oh.
[07:05:59] Okay, why would you?
[07:06:00] Good joke, I'm just going to leave.
[07:06:03] Alright, so by the way, like I was saying, guys, this is the first game of the best of five,
[07:06:07] and it is nighttime here. So yeah, when Caps leaves the little mini bus here,
[07:06:12] um, yeah.
[07:06:13] It's dark.
[07:06:14] I mean, I think this is a series that heroic and run away with, or I think it stretches out because I think Yannax is on the slower side of things. And I think whenever it comes to that scaling part of the game, when you go a little bit later, I think they've got the advantage of socks on their team. Soxa is the beast.
[07:06:37] And that's the same.
[07:06:40] Yeah, so you just want to finish.
[07:06:42] Okay, you're like, look at me like I needed to say something.
[07:06:44] I wasn't sure what it was.
[07:06:45] Yeah, soxa, he's, he's one of TI.
[07:06:47] Okay.
[07:06:48] He's the most decorated and established player in this lobby.
[07:06:51] I have another point if you don't have it.
[07:06:53] Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[07:06:55] I'm not sure you.
[07:06:56] And Watson and Manity, they played with you.
[07:06:58] So obviously they're really good because they have your knowledge.
[07:07:00] It's not much.
[07:07:01] Exactly.
[07:07:02] Keep that up.
[07:07:03] Okay, I just thought you was still logging you again.
[07:07:05] you're gonna go about it because I loved it. I did jump and say that on the side of a row
[07:07:09] like someone looks better than maybe even all three that you're joining together is
[07:07:13] Thailand. Ben Midland he's been outstanding. He's been outstanding. And everyone actually it's kind
[07:07:21] of like the rumblings of the event. Honestly reminds me of the T.I. where collapsed broke out.
[07:07:25] That's actually the vibe reminds me of where everyone at the turn is like you'll just get
[07:07:29] really legit. This guy's super good. That's how it feels right now. Everyone is talking
[07:07:32] game off the sky like he is the next big thing because he is the guy is super legit
[07:07:36] insanely good and I'm really excited to see how he plays in a best of five I haven't seen him
[07:07:40] in one especially not against the top team before so I think this is really testing grounds for him
[07:07:44] to prove that okay can you do it against the big dogs on the big stage because he has the
[07:07:48] skills to pay the bills and this is not just us that is being used as well there's all the
[07:07:52] players that think the same it's going to be fun game because the half-thalong which
[07:07:58] He won a win, he's hungry, 16 years old, youngster going for this receipt, a cup
[07:08:08] set, a treasure of water of dragon, and he won a for it, it's got to be fun, I think.
[07:08:16] How does it feel to play Tylon 16-year-old and super good player?
[07:08:20] Well, at first my impression was that I just got impressed because I thought that he would
[07:08:26] be just good and a little bit dumb, but he's actually very smart about so many things and
[07:08:33] then I was like, oh my god, what does this guy know all these things? And even when we
[07:08:37] were going to teach the things that we learn to experience, he would learn so fast. So I feel
[07:08:41] like the big thing that people can't see from outside is how smart he is about the game and
[07:08:46] not just like, yeah, he's probably just a kid that pretzels, but he's super awesome. He's smart.
[07:08:50] How did he find Tylong? Well, in that say there's a lot of good players, but like they
[07:08:55] They have not that many opportunities to shine and we can't really know how good they are.
[07:09:00] And it happened to Thailand.
[07:09:01] We didn't know how good he was.
[07:09:03] So after the I have we knew we needed some changes and we thought about it for a meeting
[07:09:07] and we ended up going for that but this gang of Thailand was our second option.
[07:09:12] We just were like feeling that we got at a good point and we didn't want to risk it but
[07:09:16] now that we did and he had the opportunity to show how good he is where we led we did it.
[07:09:20] So he just needed a shot.
[07:09:23] That's it.
[07:09:24] My opinion about that I look, I think he's definitely a gift to the child, he is a good kid.
[07:09:29] He tried hard in the rocket games in top games, I respect that.
[07:09:36] And I think he wrote a great job finding this new prodigy kid to their mid lane.
[07:09:42] And I think he's strong enough to carry four bag of potatoes that are in his team right now.
[07:09:49] I feel like spaghetti S players talking and like like the
[07:09:55] Filipino is just a different amount of money to never heard a guy call out
[07:10:00] to be like a bag of food. That goes so hard. This guy, this one doesn't make him
[07:10:04] that if he loses to them. Well, let's go. He's not going. He fully believes that
[07:10:08] not going to, right? He's like maybe someone who's mid mid lane that is
[07:10:11] gifted child can carry them to a win, but it all be on this side of
[07:10:15] tire longest they did. Oh, it's so funny to call one guy a prodigy and the rest of
[07:10:19] sex of potatoes. Like, it's polar opposites. I love the honesty. I love the honesty.
[07:10:26] About that is what is going to have to be bad here all honesty on to the table is we're
[07:10:31] going to talk about time long. So maybe stats because whilst a row we couldn't have an amazing
[07:10:35] group stage when you looked at it on paper, they had to go through that lost chance,
[07:10:39] qualifies best of three into that playings best of three as well and there were a lot of
[07:10:45] games they should have won but won able to.
[07:10:47] They were the most throw heavy team we had in the group stage.
[07:10:50] They would get a lead that looked amazing and then someone would unplug their keyboard and
[07:10:55] try and play them out only and it looked awful and in one day they had a conversation,
[07:10:59] they woke up, played a series and they just looked like a completely different team.
[07:11:03] So if they had tested them to heroic, not allowing those losses to get to them, that
[07:11:07] is a make-up break moment for any team.
[07:11:08] The type of losses they had, they stepped up, they loved from it, and now they're coming
[07:11:12] into here, eliminating Tundra, looking to go up against Yandex with a stand, and like this
[07:11:16] is the trajectory between that can make it good run in a playoffs.
[07:11:19] Yeah, and I'm just very happy to see that like T saying that they cleaned up their gameplay,
[07:11:23] because Yaday geded a lot of their games straight out the window, like back to back to back.
[07:11:28] And I will say that when it comes to their gameplay, I just think it's looked like a lot
[07:11:31] more clean since then, and when we do talk about Pailong, like the only mistake I've seen
[07:11:35] from him is that maybe at some point
[07:11:37] like he's slightly overplayed or he's like
[07:11:39] one or two seconds like not patient enough
[07:11:41] and like jumps into far.
[07:11:42] But that's it.
[07:11:43] That's a skill that you easily get with like
[07:11:45] you know playing more games and some experience
[07:11:47] but the rest, his leaning how he moves,
[07:11:49] how he itemizes like his small moves around the map.
[07:11:52] They're very, they're incredibly clean
[07:11:54] and super surprising for a guy
[07:11:56] who has barely played the game on a competitive level.
[07:11:59] Yeah.
[07:11:59] I mean for me, I think the most impressive thing
[07:12:01] is, first of all, the aggression.
[07:12:02] Like I think that's something that you can't really learn.
[07:12:04] I think most players are either aggressive or they're not,
[07:12:07] and you can't teach that.
[07:12:08] So having that skill is incredibly important
[07:12:10] to be a tier one player, and on top of that,
[07:12:12] he gets lane-ing.
[07:12:13] I think lane-ing is another thing that is very hard to teach.
[07:12:16] You're either a good laner or a bad one,
[07:12:18] and I think he is someone who is just,
[07:12:20] he just gets it.
[07:12:21] He's a really skilled laner.
[07:12:22] He pushes his advantage,
[07:12:23] and these are things that are hard to teach.
[07:12:25] So he's got the amazing fundamentals,
[07:12:27] so we can really only go off from here.
[07:12:29] The key thing is you're gonna let him play his own game.
[07:12:31] I think some games that I felt like he was trying
[07:12:32] to become a heroic player,
[07:12:34] And then there's other games where at least in the last three or four where he's doing his own thing.
[07:12:38] Like he's styling and made, like he's making his own moves.
[07:12:40] It doesn't feel like he works, like, you need to become arm-middle in it.
[07:12:43] He's doing the roster and it's like, do as you wish.
[07:12:45] And when it's some point might hold you back, like, not hold you back, but like, more like, teach you our way.
[07:12:49] But like, we want you to do your thing and then we'll try and follow you.
[07:12:51] So I think that is a really good way to like bring in a new player.
[07:12:54] Yeah, anyone just tuning in might think they've turned on the channel to the Thai Long Show.
[07:12:57] And it's not necessarily just that.
[07:12:59] We are seeing these phrases, but of course, there are so many more players that are going to be joining our lobby on the side of
[07:13:04] both heroic and Yandex, let's talk about carry plays.
[07:13:07] That is where a little bit spotlight tends to go.
[07:13:09] And it's a very embarrassing to try and draw, right?
[07:13:12] You know, Watson had very different sort of successes
[07:13:15] with throughout the career.
[07:13:16] And of course, now different sort of rusters
[07:13:18] that they're on as well.
[07:13:19] Yeah, I think coming into a series,
[07:13:20] a lot of people would say Watson's the farming carry
[07:13:22] and you missed the fighting carry.
[07:13:23] But when you look at the stats, it's only very marginally.
[07:13:26] You know, you're losing about half more kills
[07:13:28] in the first 19 minutes of the game.
[07:13:30] It regards the hero damage he's doing
[07:13:31] is about 800 more hero damage.
[07:13:33] I think the main thing is that Yuma has kind of changed up his style.
[07:13:36] He is ready to fight, but also farming,
[07:13:38] where Watson, he's leaning just like so marginal.
[07:13:41] And he got, I think, coming into this,
[07:13:42] people will just assume that it is going to be fight versus farm,
[07:13:44] but it isn't really the case.
[07:13:45] Like Watson is happy to join fights.
[07:13:47] But he'll join them when he knows it's a good one.
[07:13:49] Boss Yuma, he'll just throw himself into the fight,
[07:13:51] just because you know that's the heroic way.
[07:13:53] Yeah, I don't think.
[07:13:54] They're like, they're both super important, like for their teams.
[07:13:56] Like I think also when you look at Watson,
[07:13:58] I think this guy, he developed a lot as a player.
[07:14:00] He used to be a bit more farm heavy.
[07:14:02] I think right now when he needs to join, he absolutely will.
[07:14:05] Yeah, he's also like he's a player who is very eager to learn and he is like a very good teammate.
[07:14:09] He's very responsive and he does what he can.
[07:14:12] Like he listed the people he's like he's just a really, really great teammate.
[07:14:15] And so I think having socks on that team being able to teach these players, I think it's really good because I think they're all sponges.
[07:14:21] They want to learn, they want to know how to be TI winner caliber players.
[07:14:25] And so I think you will see this team over the year can continue to improve and improve and get better because they just want to listen to this guy and they want to learn.
[07:14:31] Yeah, it's one area. I feel like it doesn't need an improvement for the side of Yandex.
[07:14:36] It's on the kitchen that the sort of fun that both the
[07:14:40] Tari and the support have together. So what's in and
[07:14:43] Malady because that best buddy. That big bro is together.
[07:14:46] Yeah, I mean, do you guys they actually go way back like even years you?
[07:14:49] And it's fun. I think it was the water is looking for and I just threw in a different
[07:14:52] Word synergy was it. I was looking for stage. I need to clarify that.
[07:14:55] You got it. Thank you.
[07:14:57] Back to the point because I didn't even realize that you messed up something.
[07:15:00] of something, you know?
[07:15:01] So which that said, like these guys, they go back really, really far.
[07:15:04] Like, it even says a little bit,
[07:15:05] there's a reason that Manu, the ended up in Hell raises.
[07:15:08] He declined the different team.
[07:15:09] It's because Watson told him brother, play with me.
[07:15:12] We're going to make a good team.
[07:15:13] So they started playing together.
[07:15:14] One a couple like smaller tournaments then.
[07:15:16] They had a big break in between.
[07:15:18] Then they played again with GG, of course, with our boy Quinn.
[07:15:21] And now they got reunited.
[07:15:22] But again, they go get this one.
[07:15:24] This is the love story.
[07:15:26] People don't understand how important it is
[07:15:28] that you have a lane partner,
[07:15:30] that you can actually talk to and be honest
[07:15:32] if instead of like, you did great boss,
[07:15:34] you did great and that late.
[07:15:35] Let's do it again.
[07:15:36] No brother, change that.
[07:15:37] They were in the kitchen.
[07:15:38] That was not good, that was not good.
[07:15:39] Next.
[07:15:40] No, I 100% agree.
[07:15:42] After every lane, you'll hear them go in need,
[07:15:46] like we're speaking English in the team, obviously.
[07:15:47] After every game, they're studying next week.
[07:15:49] Other, they start talking to each other in Russian,
[07:15:50] Malady, Fleming, Watson, you should've done this in lane,
[07:15:52] and Boston's like, no, you should've done that.
[07:15:54] And it's like, in a good direction.
[07:15:56] They're trying to improve.
[07:15:57] They're being honest with each other, it's good stuff.
[07:15:58] No, it is really nice to get to see that as much as we like to me, we've added that
[07:16:03] there is just something when it comes to being able to have someone like that for yourself
[07:16:07] in the late there, what isn't necessarily going to be too familiar for them, is that they do
[07:16:12] have a stand-in on the side of the end, because we didn't mention it, but wanted to bring it
[07:16:15] up right there, Malik is going to standing in, said notice, and with that news, we are going to start
[07:16:20] out for us to bestify the game one drop.
[07:16:28] The index end heroic now just beginning that best of five.
[07:16:51] So we're going to be potentially seeing a fresh new meta form between these two teams because
[07:16:56] up thousands and liquid, a long time-screen pot, and is it already developed that for themselves?
[07:17:01] But the question remains, half a million exactly all heroic and Yandex against each other.
[07:17:06] They would have had a couple of days if they wanted to in the last little bit to
[07:17:09] discover against each other, but I feel like it's coming up a single elimination opponent
[07:17:13] in a best of five, you're mostly doing a homework rather than running into them in Scrims
[07:17:18] and Pumps.
[07:17:19] They're already in the Yandex, like the first phase here is like Mars on the Lord Axe,
[07:17:23] Brew Masters, well, show us a little bit of razor and vibranic.
[07:17:26] It was a ton of method, but yeah, there's going to be a very different kind of feeling.
[07:17:30] I feel like coming into this series, compared to this very, like, very many methods that we had between the last two teams.
[07:17:35] I mean, it's already different with the first phase Chen band.
[07:17:38] And I think we may see that consistently throughout the series,
[07:17:40] Malady is extremely good at this hero.
[07:17:43] They have won, I don't think they've lost a single one of their Chen games.
[07:17:45] So I think this could be a very consistent first phase band.
[07:17:48] And Jekiro here all that this hero is terrorizing the last best of five.
[07:17:51] and then it would be took a page out of that book.
[07:17:54] Yeah, I mean, also, like, if you just look at heroic,
[07:17:56] specifically, I think they have like a lot of not hipster
[07:17:58] but specialized players like Whisperer.
[07:18:00] We'll play a lot of years that other people will not touch,
[07:18:02] like if you just look at his off-same punch,
[07:18:04] like no one else will really do that.
[07:18:06] There's also no other team
[07:18:07] that would have these massive band against them
[07:18:09] in the first phase, but you know, Mr. Thailand,
[07:18:11] he plays this hero mid.
[07:18:12] Somehow goes 18 and zero and goes next to you.
[07:18:15] You've got a riff.
[07:18:16] Sorry, go.
[07:18:16] Obviously, you're just gonna quickly back up with Kru and saying,
[07:18:18] your abnormalities, not less than single-chang game,
[07:18:20] It's been four of them this boss time. So it isn't just like it's gone through once and he's done well four times
[07:18:25] He's been able to decimate his opponent
[07:18:27] That was all take back to you. Me too, too
[07:18:30] trees available
[07:18:37] Yeah, I mean this is uh, this is a powerful hero everybody knows the powerful. It's first picked or first based band almost every game
[07:18:44] Yeah, but they do steal it away from Malady Malady is like the tree guy. He was rank one playing
[07:18:49] Even though there's a go not like not even on this version of tree. Yeah, every verse
[07:18:53] He think he's maybe the only grandmaster professional tree player
[07:18:57] So I'd be curious to see if Malady gets it throughout this series, but heroic first picking years no surprise
[07:19:14] the dark city guy, the title of the guy,
[07:19:16] like he wants to be just team fight off in it,
[07:19:19] pretty much everything will time to,
[07:19:20] if you're now gonna be playing a razor,
[07:19:22] is he gonna play here,
[07:19:23] is that he just normally onto play,
[07:19:25] it's stylistically, like he wants to be,
[07:19:27] just being initiating here,
[07:19:28] I think it's the better way to summarize him.
[07:19:31] Yeah, I mean, something that not have really made no,
[07:19:33] but Malik is also like best friends with Malik and Watson,
[07:19:36] they're like hang on at this court every night,
[07:19:37] they're all from Kazakhstan,
[07:19:39] so if there's any questions about how comfortable he'll be
[07:19:41] fitting in this team, I think you'll be very comfortable,
[07:19:43] hanging out with literally two of his best friends on the same team. So I think in terms
[07:19:46] of synergy, while they may not have as many games they do with notice, I think they will
[07:19:50] still be a force to be reckoned with it, because they have a lot of synergy playing with
[07:19:53] Malac on prior teams and also just knowing each other very well.
[07:19:57] Yeah, and I think also like to add onto that when you have a stand in, I think it's, I mean,
[07:20:00] obviously it's even better if you also know him, but it's nice if you can make him comfortable.
[07:20:04] So if we're saying that he doesn't like play too much Razor and we also like we see them before,
[07:20:09] right? Like T-Mexie, he's like the melee off-lain team fighter. I think just continue to put him on
[07:20:13] that. Also, if I think of Watson, even like a year ago, he was very early on like a
[07:20:16] carried razor train, like he made it like very popularised in pub, so I totally wouldn't even
[07:20:21] be surprised if they can just keep it like this. You know, make a quite simple razor carry,
[07:20:26] put man like on something that's nice, build a nice foundation for your draft. Take it from there.
[07:20:29] The other option is you try to make it stand in as uncomfortable as possible, making a scapegoat.
[07:20:34] He play on my razor in 2022, the last time competitively, he has three games total with his career
[07:20:39] of the hero. So if you want to find escape, go at them. He is welcome to Multimalic.
[07:20:44] Here it is. Here's your razor. Put a pin in that one. Maybe we'll see that as an option here.
[07:20:49] I did, I was looking at the cams and there was a moment where Tylen was sort of laughing.
[07:20:53] They were joking back and forth. He looked very like free and I think that's a really good sign.
[07:20:57] I think you can sort of see from people's faces that they look stressed on. I look at him.
[07:21:00] I think to me, you're just kind of chilling. He's looking at your screen. He's thinking about his
[07:21:02] heroes. And I think that's what you want. You don't want to be talking too much. As the mid-player and
[07:21:06] and draft oftentimes you just want to be thinking about the game from your perspective
[07:21:09] how do these heroes interact with me, how do I work with my heroes against the enemies
[07:21:13] and all these things and so that's a good sign that I think he's going to be able to perform in the series.
[07:21:19] I'm for sure because we haven't really seen him play right in front of like a crowd
[07:21:22] on the actual stage yet I don't think so.
[07:21:24] So it is absolutely lit. It's a big test. It was like maybe set to be fair, right? Like
[07:21:29] he's come to a studio event with you know the crowd. It's not like he's gone straight into
[07:21:33] you know, the Singapore's, the trend-dos that we saw last year. So, this is like a
[07:21:37] right thus well they do here and then the next time bigger arena step by step but
[07:21:41] the tactics are all they can. I don't mind this pick because like I think
[07:21:47] tree show and they have a really potent book. I think my concern is when you have
[07:21:50] initiating heroes that are easier to find and kill and then there's a tree in the
[07:21:55] game with a shot getting on the vision. There is a world where he gets just caught and
[07:21:59] then you don't get to utilize the show and book.
[07:22:01] Yeah, it's interesting. I think it's too solid that you can cut the trees and then tree can't really
[07:22:06] Manfight a shout a shout a shout on like you'll beat the crap out of it. I'll buy boots first
[07:22:09] Probably don't go cut the trees level one, maybe
[07:22:12] But it is like they do have no team for it right now and you're playing against that tree and against
[07:22:18] Bristle back now against the razor that we saw last game, so there's some it's interesting because I think if that series didn't happen
[07:22:24] We would not see that Bristle back pick right now, and so these the meta sort of adapt things through other people's best to 5s
[07:22:29] which is something that's something you see often.
[07:22:32] Do you think like now you're charmen coming up against a bristle?
[07:22:36] You go for the chicken fingers fast because it's not like your level 15 or 20
[07:22:40] talent is your bracket like your hexbrake.
[07:22:43] So am I mixing my heroes?
[07:22:45] You did have that talent, does he still have it?
[07:22:47] He has a great skill.
[07:22:48] Yeah.
[07:22:49] I think I think he'll likely go for the chicken fingers though.
[07:22:52] Yeah, okay.
[07:22:53] The big fast snake was nerfed a couple of times.
[07:22:55] One thing that we cannot forget, those who are working their qualifiers have played
[07:22:59] bristle in multiple roles. They've even played it mid lane on, okay, Tylong. So it's not
[07:23:06] a here, they are afraid to flex around it. And to be fair, they've picked a negromer
[07:23:10] and Tylong side of playing it. They have raised it in the qualifiers. They didn't play
[07:23:14] Razer. They lost the qualifier. They told Tylong to play the hero that he'd never
[07:23:17] played. He then picked it dominated the series and then the qualifier. So I think Tylong
[07:23:21] is showing that if he's given information that hey can you try this? He's looked
[07:23:25] up at the place and says no, I need my heroes. He's ready to adapt. So always
[07:23:29] going to keep note that there's a new hero who is potentially available for
[07:23:33] Tylong to show us on the main stage.
[07:23:36] I think for heroic, these first heroes are they're not bad, and that they
[07:23:39] think they're strong skirmishers, and there's some some dynamics in which
[07:23:42] they can fight well, but I do think they have overlapping that it's a lot of physical
[07:23:45] damage and tree is very low damage. And so whenever you itemize or you pick
[07:23:49] heroes too far and you're going to have to go to the toilet, physical damage, or too much of
[07:23:53] this, so you can get punished the other way.
[07:23:55] Now you've got this brisbec flying in shadow demon witch.
[07:23:58] As again goes later, eventually you buy eggs, and you're going to build them in his worthless.
[07:24:01] So, you've already got some scaling problems potentially for heroic.
[07:24:05] So, you're looking more at that temple, more shutting them down early, because the
[07:24:08] annex supports their two squishy range supports.
[07:24:10] If they're behind early, they're weak, but if they get going, then there can be big problems
[07:24:13] for heroic.
[07:24:14] Yeah, I do think that this SD is quite a big problem.
[07:24:16] not just for the bristle, like later down the line and the scaling,
[07:24:19] then you're talking about it's also super annoying for 3 and later, like now you're playing
[07:24:23] into probably a razor who will buy a BKB. If he's a carry-he'll have a man. If, you know,
[07:24:27] SD eventually gets a sharp, he just cleanses one guy as well. Same with the goo,
[07:24:31] you'll never be able to goo people up. And you have, like, roster SD together, it's like,
[07:24:35] not like it's weak, even though it's two range guys, you know, roster he can start the fights.
[07:24:38] He's both good laners. So I think Yandex have a very strong potential 16-17
[07:24:44] depending on which core is coming out.
[07:24:47] I was worried that Parox sure that they picked Bruma with a carry, and that picking
[07:24:51] S.D. and Shaman like this, backline supports that need positive positioning.
[07:24:55] You're kind of offering up Parox to go for the nuisance of the Bruma, the Park Shore with
[07:25:00] a little bit of containment can, maybe, spook a little bit, but I don't think they can.
[07:25:04] If they do want to go for that type of hero, just pressure them up overwhelmed them.
[07:25:08] Don't allow Yandex to have two hyper-defensive supports that are buffing up over heroes,
[07:25:12] containing them, locking them down for the course to do well,
[07:25:15] to have a slow entry to the game.
[07:25:17] Heroic's meant to be the quick team to break the map to do these things.
[07:25:21] Again, I'm looking at a room of myself, but...
[07:25:24] I like the Pac-A-Loges to talk about the quick for a moment,
[07:25:27] because I think Heroic need to be looking for this type of hero.
[07:25:30] Usually, SD-Shaman, unlike the enemy backland support,
[07:25:33] you need a guy that goes in, gives you some vision,
[07:25:36] and it's very annoying to them to disrupt them.
[07:25:38] So I think not only did Yandex take a way
[07:25:40] a potential to take a heroic wand,
[07:25:42] I think that takes a heroic art looking for
[07:25:45] should generally be not that good against puck themselves.
[07:25:49] Yeah, it is very possible.
[07:25:50] At the same time, I do think they have quadruple range
[07:25:53] Cheryl first for heroes in the end next.
[07:25:55] It's a little odd.
[07:25:56] I think generally for that team,
[07:25:58] they like having good teamfight,
[07:25:59] they let having some beefy boys and a line of it's easier
[07:26:02] to execute as come more time passes,
[07:26:04] we already talked about what's being a little more far.
[07:26:06] It's a little slow, it's quite stashy.
[07:26:08] It's a little slow, it's quite stashy.
[07:26:09] Yeah.
[07:26:10] It's humor, all the way to hype intro.
[07:26:12] Good.
[07:26:13] Rock this party.
[07:26:14] It's good.
[07:26:15] Yeah.
[07:26:15] I'd...
[07:26:16] to be fair.
[07:26:18] I kind of forgot about you, move me.
[07:26:19] I'll be right back.
[07:26:20] I mean, speaking more, you may be rude.
[07:26:22] That's my problem.
[07:26:22] But any toxic little pick on 18 to punish the support you have down there.
[07:26:26] I'm fine, move and me, boat.
[07:26:28] It's very, very annoying for sure.
[07:26:31] It's, um, going to, it's fine, well.
[07:26:32] And I'm just listening overwhelming, nuisance, right?
[07:26:35] We're still running at Lotus, Mepo with an Agnims, just being able to kind of survive
[07:26:39] for Yandex.
[07:26:40] The damage of Yandex is kind of over time for some degree, and yeah, I think it works
[07:26:44] very pretty happy with the picture, so far.
[07:26:46] I was just prevent Malik from having a big beefy offlander, that's kind of the
[07:26:50] hell.
[07:26:51] Yeah.
[07:26:52] So like, while I like to Mepo, I'm not fully sold yet on the pick, obviously it's
[07:26:57] a here that is specialist, we'll understand more than anyone else, but they're low damage
[07:27:02] and giga physical, like if you're looking at like some
[07:27:05] trees, crimson guy that just rushes, this and trust me,
[07:27:07] there are enough heroes that even if you ban out two guys,
[07:27:10] you'll find someone else, you know,
[07:27:12] tied us out, there's gonna be envelope or there's E.T.
[07:27:14] that Quinn is yapping about.
[07:27:15] You've got some options.
[07:27:16] What happens if Brazil goes back into the park?
[07:27:18] And then Brazil just farms,
[07:27:20] park can't kill Brazil,
[07:27:21] and then there's like a new big offlaner,
[07:27:23] and then her work plays through the tempo of him,
[07:27:25] and there's like you have to deal with the personal following
[07:27:27] made, the tempo of Whisper and Mepo,
[07:27:29] who is gonna get the identity once.
[07:27:32] I'm just not sure what new offline you're going to want into a Razor.
[07:27:35] I think generally the fat foods would not be fat good into the Razor.
[07:27:41] I think this meatball pick I agree, the physical damage overlap is somewhat worrying.
[07:27:47] Like, puck can go, which blade blink sheath is the scape, just straight up.
[07:27:50] And you will buy, like you said, you'll buy pipe and car cellular crimson and grieves on your offlaner.
[07:27:55] And you will get super tanky. And when they hit this point where they start getting all these armor items,
[07:28:00] It can become a problem for a roe.
[07:28:02] Like we've already talked about the shadowing and bristle back scaling.
[07:28:04] He's no longer going to be a problem as more time passed.
[07:28:06] So the clock is ticking as soon as his game starts a roe.
[07:28:09] And they need to keep the momentum going.
[07:28:12] People is not a late game hero.
[07:28:13] It's a temple hero that builds a gigantic lead,
[07:28:15] closes it out and just ends.
[07:28:16] That's me, he's not farming.
[07:28:18] He's not trying to play for 45, 50 minutes.
[07:28:21] The next do have pretty good wave skip, right?
[07:28:23] Raise the consecutive focus, head into lane, disappear,
[07:28:25] puck into the same thing.
[07:28:26] But it's looked like the best racking star lineup.
[07:28:29] So if there's a border herd, does take over the kind of the tempo of the game?
[07:28:32] It's still going to be a problem.
[07:28:34] Luckily, if you end it, they do have the last pick.
[07:28:36] I like the Titan to an underlapant, Titan to go in Agonins,
[07:28:39] underlapant to just hold in the high ground with shot, firestorm.
[07:28:42] These are the small things that you need, just a by-time.
[07:28:44] Yeah.
[07:28:45] Not super good dance.
[07:28:46] I'm curious, like, Elder Titan is not good for their lineup.
[07:28:50] Like, they want a beefy boy stunner guy.
[07:28:51] But Elder Titan is, like,
[07:28:53] Elder Titan to mepo is the hardest counter of any hero
[07:28:56] to other hero combo in the entire game.
[07:28:58] If you look at it, the win percent differential on go to off.
[07:29:00] It's like 13 percent.
[07:29:02] Ooh, see you guys with the guys for a second.
[07:29:05] Okay, I think that's interesting.
[07:29:07] I mean, I think it's just good against Pock and also against the back line.
[07:29:10] You can either hide your tanky guy, but you can also hide him as to kill the guys in the back.
[07:29:14] I mean, I think E.T. is twice by C, and I think anyone that plays a lot of often E.T.
[07:29:19] will definitely look at it.
[07:29:21] I mean, anything else, because he does own me, but quite hard.
[07:29:24] But I will say, I think if you get like, or us to buff up your team,
[07:29:27] I think S.E. Perage was like a razor-linking a guy and then the guy gets coiled.
[07:29:31] I think you do have enough damage eventually to like cut through whoever you want to go on.
[07:29:35] Yeah. So the last time Malik played out of Titan?
[07:29:38] Twenty- twenty-four against.
[07:29:39] Oh man. He played Morphling, carry. He then picked E.T. off-lane into the Morphling.
[07:29:44] So, okay.
[07:29:44] He has thought about the hero in certain anti-matchups, but...
[07:29:49] I mean, Watson is also a great meatball player in his own, right?
[07:29:51] So, they understand the hero, they know what the counters are.
[07:29:57] and he can buy the oras right you go some hybrid build we see some players go for the more greedy stuff
[07:30:02] But he should be able to buy you know the greeners in the crimson this game if he wants to get up those oras
[07:30:06] If that's the route he wants to go down
[07:30:08] It's the tanky guy. They have plenty of catch and Timbersaw is one of the best core pairings with Shadoshan and because Shonan has that catch
[07:30:15] And he kind of wants to hear who can stand in front for him
[07:30:17] But also has some damage to the cereals pair well together
[07:30:19] So Timbersaw is one of the classic best combinations with Shadoshan
[07:30:23] I think it should go ahead.
[07:30:25] Little bit of the end.
[07:30:26] But they have a giga good lane.
[07:30:27] And the not just are they good, like, throughout the game with Shadow Shaman Timber.
[07:30:31] I think the lane is very strong.
[07:30:32] You go down there.
[07:30:33] You cut some trees.
[07:30:34] Like, me people do a thing.
[07:30:35] Maybe you try to go through the gate.
[07:30:37] And like, overrun, like, maybe what the enemy's safe lane, what the Razor is playing.
[07:30:40] But overall, I really like what the Andex have.
[07:30:42] I think Timber, you can go to Oras, like you said.
[07:30:44] But if you have a giga good game, you can also just have, like, an axe.
[07:30:47] Like, minute 20, 25 in this game.
[07:30:49] And I think you're not really going to get cooked.
[07:30:51] So for me, I'm really hoping to see that
[07:30:53] to a Royac have like individual excellence,
[07:30:55] like off this Umei Mepul and Thailand,
[07:30:57] you know, with the Thailand show,
[07:30:58] because overall, I prefer the youngest one.
[07:31:00] I mean, the index is just get crimson-be-happy
[07:31:02] for heroic and say, I think Thailand,
[07:31:04] we just saw Nisha dominate on a voice for it
[07:31:06] and show like you can do in the hero.
[07:31:08] And if you get the first one at the right time,
[07:31:09] we get the the client potentially,
[07:31:11] the sheave is like, he can do the things
[07:31:12] that Nisha just did and like we have high-pilong
[07:31:15] to great lengths now.
[07:31:16] And I kind of feel like he's in that position,
[07:31:17] but like if he can step up to the amount of praise
[07:31:19] that we gave him,
[07:31:20] he can do enough to bring her work into the game to ensure that people have a good
[07:31:23] time and everyone is kind of snowballing the game so we've hyped him up and now he has to
[07:31:27] perform.
[07:31:28] I can track the obligator to say the team was always pretty well win and so I will.
[07:31:32] I think her all go win because they have points for it.
[07:31:34] No, the next one will take this one, will take the L, take that L.
[07:31:37] I do like it that even in the face of adversity, Quinn is not going to back down from supporting
[07:31:44] a void spirit pick up for this side of heroic.
[07:31:48] I mean he obviously believes a lot and tie along the same way many of us do to talk about it there
[07:31:53] but to show up at your first LAN on a new roster like heroic and to come up against Yandex
[07:31:59] who might not necessarily be in full force as they do have a stand-in for themselves it is
[07:32:05] going to be an interesting clash. It is going to be game number one of our second best of five.
[07:32:18] the
[07:32:30] first we had a four anchors plus he captain
[07:32:34] now new generation of doto we've got four bags of potatoes and a prodigy
[07:32:39] a G.A.B.
[07:32:40] Man, what players in a con of that squad?
[07:32:44] The Toma Manjerax came out of that four anchors team, so if you look at the titles,
[07:32:48] it's going to have to yield some perennial all stars here.
[07:32:53] Very, very interesting matchup we have in this second B.O.5 at the day.
[07:32:57] I think both these teams are not afraid of each other, and I think they're both in a similar
[07:33:01] spot in the scene where you can argue the end, this has had more recent success, but I feel
[07:33:06] like they're both trying to get to that tier one status
[07:33:09] are officially there yet are right on that cusp.
[07:33:13] And so I think both these teams
[07:33:14] psychologically, they're not going to be afraid of each other
[07:33:16] and they're both have a lot to prove
[07:33:18] and they're both going to be very hungry
[07:33:19] to win this series, even the index would
[07:33:21] stay in it here.
[07:33:23] Yeah, there's supposed to be challengers
[07:33:24] to the, you know, Falcons, Tundra, Liquid, et cetera.
[07:33:28] Right, the established tier one teams.
[07:33:30] I think as you said, the index has already proven
[07:33:33] they can do it, a roller quit this new squad.
[07:33:36] still have something to prove with this new edition of Ty Long, we are going to watch
[07:33:39] first blood battle happen as JJ is going to eventually get run down trying a bit too
[07:33:45] hard to get some information.
[07:33:47] Simple move.
[07:33:49] Trying to get this deep word.
[07:33:51] Not a lot of trees to escape with there that's a boost boost first investment for the
[07:33:55] tree too.
[07:33:56] Generally something you want to turn into a lane advantage or first blood instead you
[07:34:00] ran out quickly and gave it away quickly.
[07:34:01] It's going to hurt this top lane considerably.
[07:34:05] It's the tree ends of being there.
[07:34:07] He's actually looking to go bottom.
[07:34:09] They want to put the hood wing top.
[07:34:11] They might rotate this still.
[07:34:13] Yeah, he's going to keep top.
[07:34:14] So maybe they start pseudo-triining here.
[07:34:16] It is a secure, the first wave or two for people.
[07:34:18] Or look for the return kill.
[07:34:19] But again, you gave up the first blood.
[07:34:21] So it's kind of hurts this play as well.
[07:34:23] Yeah.
[07:34:24] It also makes this play a lot less likely to be read.
[07:34:28] It's in some, what if they're not the reward of first blood?
[07:34:31] And I think shutting down this timber saw
[07:34:33] has to be first step for heroic and they're gonna pop out.
[07:34:37] They're with the can, got a net,
[07:34:39] but he leveled up timber chain, level one,
[07:34:42] easily gets away and now at the other course,
[07:34:44] just gonna have to go through the gate back to the lane.
[07:34:48] Or it's not gonna send the tree bottom.
[07:34:50] I mean, all the trees got cut top.
[07:34:52] So this is not the best lane for tree tree
[07:34:54] is also very generally weak against timber.
[07:34:57] It's not a good match for Trey.
[07:34:59] He outs the stains over the long run.
[07:35:01] He cuts the trees.
[07:35:02] If you play in the trees, he gets bonus damage.
[07:35:04] So I understand why heroic are trying to dodge his match.
[07:35:07] But then it goes back to the question,
[07:35:08] if you first pick Trey, and you're the one having to dodge the lane,
[07:35:12] go into this off lane, have a double melee lane,
[07:35:14] to get double range, well, worried for KJ's early impact here.
[07:35:18] And to me, he has been these stand-up players
[07:35:20] in the squad this event.
[07:35:22] Like, I'm looking towards KJ in the series
[07:35:25] to make some big plays down the stretch.
[07:35:27] Yeah, he may be in a better position with the trees not being cut in this lane, but is whispered
[07:35:35] going to be in a better position with a tree trying to stop the link rundown compared
[07:35:40] to a hookway.
[07:35:41] Right?
[07:35:42] Hoodwink not only does a pull, bushwack, but then it's also a rame stun, a lot easier to get,
[07:35:48] you know, that positioning to stop the link.
[07:35:51] It feels like this is going to be potentially just a free link lane for walks in a
[07:35:56] a lot of times. He's got a free problem this no matter what I think these lanes are
[07:35:59] going to go well for the index across the board. I also don't think the tree can stack
[07:36:03] down here. So if the lanes don't go a row xway, they lost some stacking potential with
[07:36:08] this swap as well. Very volatile support swap in my opinion. There was a potential high pay off
[07:36:13] if they got first without the exchange and kind of forced TPs, but I think they should have
[07:36:20] recall the audible after the the first death here. And this should be Yendix
[07:36:25] waiting three lanes. May it I guess can go Tylong's way, for sure. And this is a
[07:36:30] favorable lane per void spirit historically at least. And this is a lane where
[07:36:34] Tylong can show off his islany prowess. Take a little bit of lead here. So maybe
[07:36:38] that's where heroic can build some momentum. I'm good if a hero do you think
[07:36:43] Boyd's spirit actually is right now. We just saw in that last series,
[07:36:47] and it looked pretty strong, but, you know, just recent history this year has not been particularly good.
[07:36:54] I would say it's been the least of the, at least, when it comes to storm and embers spirit, but far below those two.
[07:37:00] I think this year was this very show, you know.
[07:37:05] Foxa will die, but they'll will KJ, so support desks on both sides here.
[07:37:11] Trying to get aggressive top two with the level three on the people,
[07:37:15] But there's only so much you can do to Timber in this lane, pretty hard to lock him
[07:37:20] that long enough to secure that, so support getting traded out here fighting for those
[07:37:24] lovers is.
[07:37:25] But this is ultimately a pretty lane for walks and you can't really stop the razor getting
[07:37:28] links here, and then just see us, unless you want to rotate though, but went down here
[07:37:34] to give so much peace of Nipo, you can always pull for himself with the clones, so sometimes
[07:37:38] you can make nirvana, you can also send Nipo through the gate and play that game.
[07:37:43] Yeah, I almost wonder if they should make that two-man rotation just to make sure, right?
[07:37:49] Because the range of the the razor is a dangerous hero to gain into, you know, you get
[07:37:54] socks to the defensively T.P. make that a three-on-three, you might just be given the razor more
[07:37:59] farmed and taken it away. So, I almost wonder if they should make that a two-man rotation, one
[07:38:04] Mepo and one hood wing through the gate. Wouldn't mind that. I think they have to
[07:38:09] the left-list play at some point in the next minute or two here.
[07:38:12] The lane bottom does get shoved because the sequelograms gained disrupted by pull blocks
[07:38:16] and quills.
[07:38:17] So if you send a meaple through the gate, that opportunity should be available.
[07:38:23] They make it at the exact right time, and I think that is generally how meaple prefers to
[07:38:27] play early games.
[07:38:28] You need to get some little efficiency out of the extra.
[07:38:31] Either full stacks, stat clearing that your team sets up later on, or dislike multi-lane
[07:38:37] The game potential through the gate is super powerful.
[07:38:40] Oh, Thailand.
[07:38:41] Yeah, getting super low, man.
[07:38:43] What a reed of that situation.
[07:38:45] Not popping head stick a little bit sooner.
[07:38:48] Twins down the like 5 HP or something.
[07:38:50] Double on snare.
[07:38:51] The bushwack and grab on the shatter challenge
[07:38:54] is a little trade damage, nothing major.
[07:38:58] I think it's a pretty good people, you know.
[07:39:01] My timber is a okay last response.
[07:39:03] and I also see.
[07:39:05] People are taking over the weekend.
[07:39:07] You might as good a start as he's having right here.
[07:39:11] He's very strong in this early portion.
[07:39:13] There's not a lot of AOE control in the Sandex lineup.
[07:39:16] And when it comes to me,
[07:39:17] you're kind of looking at,
[07:39:18] can I change Stun the dude?
[07:39:19] Can I single target burst him down?
[07:39:21] What's the mega meat boge?
[07:39:22] We're going to do events by lineup.
[07:39:24] Do we have sustained damage against him later?
[07:39:26] Because the hero, this scale is not terrifying.
[07:39:29] It's more dealing with.
[07:39:30] and if he builds a five or six game,
[07:39:32] that's worth it because he's killing
[07:39:34] everybody around the map.
[07:39:37] AJ just kind of marching around this middle,
[07:39:40] like, oh my god, you know what?
[07:39:42] That's a mid laner thing, right?
[07:39:44] Just does not micro his career at all
[07:39:46] because who's expecting the support to be to
[07:39:49] read B between his tier one and tier two,
[07:39:51] but somehow KJ's weird ads reputation kind of work.
[07:39:55] Okay, off, why aren't you gonna get him?
[07:39:58] Well, it's gonna give him a 50, 50 split on his power.
[07:40:00] Yeah, and they lose it. Who be bottomed here?
[07:40:03] Junior gets a haste.
[07:40:04] It's a super strong room.
[07:40:06] And scary to leave title under this lane now.
[07:40:11] Your supports are they don't want to sit here either.
[07:40:13] Though tree is one of the worst supports that play around mid.
[07:40:16] Unless you can just dive the tower straight up.
[07:40:19] He's terrible at fighting in that river location or on top of these rooms itself.
[07:40:23] So, Heroka is going to vacate this.
[07:40:26] Not fighting a lot of her plea action here with all this support.
[07:40:28] And this could be a play, Malik,
[07:40:31] TPing in.
[07:40:32] He's going to be changed on hearing nice timing, though.
[07:40:35] On the whirling death, the old Corridor had to drop a tree
[07:40:38] with the A-corned shot and he'd be really cuts it down to no bushwack.
[07:40:41] What had been a nice punish, considering Malik had to go back to base
[07:40:45] and then TPing back in the lane.
[07:40:47] If they could have killed 10 or at least kicked them out.
[07:40:49] But Triple range creep push in will give Malik a lot of experience.
[07:40:55] Look at what I've missed him, Shrine fight.
[07:40:57] how do you realize it down here I run those two go work out for him yeah I think
[07:41:03] this play works a lot I would say a couple months ago people want used to the
[07:41:10] whole one on one shadowed even disruption just takes the shrine you know while
[07:41:15] you're disrupted while you're out of the map or whatever but now whenever
[07:41:18] you're matched up against the shadowed even I feel like every team two stacks
[07:41:21] their wisdom shrine to make sure shadowed even can make a solo play like
[07:41:25] I also think you've kind of the respect of the fact that Mito can plan his own this game
[07:41:32] and heroic don't have the babysit cores like the supports have had a lot of freedom here.
[07:41:37] They're not going to go to the shrines later.
[07:41:39] First of all, what is not the shackle?
[07:41:41] See if his meat bow is going to go down quick, not quick enough perhaps.
[07:41:46] Soxa actually will live and they kill the meat bow.
[07:41:50] Nice rotation there from cheeraging or gets value out of that A strune.
[07:41:53] God has items off the courier that was killed earlier, very easy to keep and every time
[07:41:59] you bring me put down in the first 10 or 15 minutes, buys you so much extra time in that
[07:42:03] mid game. Cereals kind of, you have to use Cereals, Alchemist or Nagar or Selenine. If he doesn't
[07:42:08] get touched for 15 minutes, his win probably almost double and if he dies once or twice,
[07:42:14] just off the momentum building, how fast he can get to some of those first items. They vary
[07:42:19] over the patches but you know it's dragonlands, diffusal, ags, blink, hex. These are all those
[07:42:26] power spikes on the hero. Every one of those that comes out helps you control the map more.
[07:42:32] And this matchup against the the razors specifically right the the ags and the
[07:42:36] shard are both going to be really valuable for the meat bow breaking the link. Oh yeah.
[07:42:41] Getting one of those single target meatballs out of the way.
[07:42:43] I'm down on Malik, he'll look on you some help, so I long shown up at the name Damage
[07:42:50] this fight is looking a little questionable for Yandex.
[07:42:55] They are going to give up support for support, not that big of a deal, especially if the
[07:42:59] fuck can make a big move on the other side of the map where Whisper is being run down
[07:43:03] gets some quills out, but not enough to really be a threat.
[07:43:08] This razor bristle matcher fits just so difficult.
[07:43:11] It's one of the old school counters.
[07:43:13] When first was dominating some of the meta's Razor came out as one of those picks that can
[07:43:17] punish the Cero for existing in the fight, build up the physical and remove his armor.
[07:43:21] He tends to be a low armor hero and relies on the damage block.
[07:43:25] So it's a very nice match for Watson.
[07:43:27] He's extracted a lot of advantage here.
[07:43:29] He's going to be massive this game.
[07:43:31] This is an incredible star for him.
[07:43:33] Tylong's move through the gate kind of gets ruined by the fact that they have a meatball.
[07:43:37] have a meatball. This gate rotation has been awarded the entire
[07:43:41] landing phase, basically, the melody put that in, it like three minutes.
[07:43:45] It's very high long. He has moved his red.
[07:43:49] As it was pointed out in the panel, you know, Watson is a
[07:43:53] people player himself. So he is just a familiar with how play
[07:43:57] in this year. I'm not going to call off guard too much.
[07:44:01] Despite having the defensive ward, two different ones that's
[07:44:05] that's the Tylong Soxa. Still dies to heavy rotation and they just
[07:44:10] three man through. Still putting some pressure on Watson where they can't
[07:44:14] Watson. No way he should get caught by this though. Maybe he doesn't
[07:44:18] realize there's a high ground ward, but surely he's got a respect. Yeah,
[07:44:21] good rebuy heroic. They know it's warded. Despite getting that kill on
[07:44:24] Soxa just knowing that Watson's playing a little bit too safe.
[07:44:29] Nice vision, Reads of Skate already early on. And I like to
[07:44:34] The Royal Planet Gresson, even if the Slain Fays didn't go pristine for them, they're
[07:44:38] still positioning the Pursal back aggressively, they're not just resorting to stat clearing
[07:44:43] defensive, fostering on the map, they're trying to take the fight to end X trying to almost
[07:44:47] bathe them into taking that skirmish.
[07:44:50] The Mepo can then join and clean up.
[07:44:52] That's kind of an ideal world for her look.
[07:44:54] They don't want to overstep it into puck rotations, but if you can bathe in X going on you
[07:44:58] under a tower, near that gate and the Mepo can join, the Mepo has free entry
[07:45:04] into these fights for a long time.
[07:45:06] You're not too worried about dying in the fight as you may assume you're not the guy
[07:45:10] getting gone on first.
[07:45:12] Sure.
[07:45:13] Well, if I were all I could move on these sidelines and such, feels like the best thing
[07:45:21] Cherica Jr. can do here is exactly what's going on, push this mid-town.
[07:45:26] Force the Boyd Spirit to show up, force these supports to show on the map somewhere.
[07:45:30] I think we'll be able to turn it around.
[07:45:33] Get a lot of damage done.
[07:45:35] Nice, that's okay.
[07:45:36] We'll try along.
[07:45:37] It's about to finish it up here.
[07:45:39] It'll be his first power spike.
[07:45:41] And you asked earlier how strong this hero is.
[07:45:44] I think this hero is deceptively strong because he builds some nice items in this meta.
[07:45:49] I think people are moving away from the axe build, which I never liked.
[07:45:52] I think the build up of that is way too clunky way too slow.
[07:45:55] You want some early damage.
[07:45:56] You want some early ramp.
[07:45:58] And I think he's one of the last true universal heroes.
[07:46:02] We're a lot of others.
[07:46:04] Have either been nerfed considerably or transformed back into a stat hero?
[07:46:08] Yeah, because he's a giga universal hero with his innate exactly.
[07:46:14] So I think he still benefits from, you know, like this vessel build up 10 all stats.
[07:46:18] He uses it really well compared to a lot of other heroes. So yes, he's a little thing's going for him.
[07:46:23] He hits hard. He just gets so many playclicks on the fight. He's very tanky.
[07:46:27] I think the shard is pretty integrated, too.
[07:46:30] Agreed, he's been mega annoying to play in.
[07:46:34] Though, I don't know if you can call it underrated anymore.
[07:46:37] I feel like I've heard players talk about this shard as,
[07:46:39] like, you must get it at 15 minutes.
[07:46:41] It's like way too good of a farming tool for this era.
[07:46:44] It pushes waves, it gives extra vision,
[07:46:47] it gets extra latch in the fight.
[07:46:49] You could just block entire ramps
[07:46:51] since they roast pits and stuff like it.
[07:46:54] super annoying, start the playthrough for how cheap it is.
[07:46:57] So I think some of these things have boosted this hero up a little bit, and that's why
[07:47:00] we're seeing it.
[07:47:01] I mean, I don't think he's a first pick hero, but I think when you get later on these
[07:47:05] drafts, we're probably going to see this hero probably at least another time in the series.
[07:47:09] There's not a lot of later pick bits that are scary.
[07:47:12] You're just kind of looking for something that can give you consistency, some solid scale,
[07:47:17] use runes well, and how many of those are going to get, you know, it's not some last
[07:47:20] as a big house car or something that blows the game open.
[07:47:23] You said, uh, I built some of the items that you like right now, uh, spare
[07:47:26] vessels. The obvious one. What other items do you feel like are really strong
[07:47:31] in this patch? Oh, that's a lot of cheers. You're flirting with danger here,
[07:47:37] but I'm still sticking around is going to be hit by the mepo here.
[07:47:41] You think you don't have over his door? Does it mean you get away? Oh, no, he
[07:47:44] doesn't get away. He hops down the cliff, though, off the silent shackles being
[07:47:48] While on time long nobody's stopping it does have plenty heals dodges the
[07:47:51] ord and will be good, trading blow for blow, heroic, and Yandex going at it in the mid lane,
[07:47:57] but no death.
[07:47:58] But the Mepo is victorious because he cleaned up all those Shaman wards.
[07:48:02] That's just an hour and throw that's like plus 250 for any base we got to kill out of
[07:48:06] that.
[07:48:07] That was the defusal done for the Mepo will eventually turn this into an upgraded item
[07:48:13] or potentially, I mean, there's nowhere to sell here, you're going to get this person.
[07:48:16] I think this person is nice this game.
[07:48:18] You can actually break, link it at some point,
[07:48:20] and fight, get the extra boost people.
[07:48:23] You could be interesting.
[07:48:24] Just nice damage, it's that's a new year.
[07:48:28] In terms of items I like this patch, since you asked,
[07:48:32] it's also stupid, but I like a lot of the heroes
[07:48:35] that have some sort of a kayak buildup,
[07:48:37] and I think we're seeing more kayak yasha,
[07:48:40] as well as some, if he's met a song in yasha,
[07:48:43] and I think voids appear for me.
[07:48:44] I like the Kaioshiko, he can get a nice timing.
[07:48:48] Oh, god.
[07:48:50] What's that was a low light reel.
[07:48:54] I believe Tylong missing the 8th Remnant's The Elecore
[07:48:58] and missing Bushwack, Charp Fudor.
[07:49:01] Dr. Fines connection.
[07:49:03] I will say Watson has been farming that area
[07:49:05] the jungle very defensively though,
[07:49:08] in terms of how he's positioned around that camp,
[07:49:10] specifically.
[07:49:11] So he's had a decent read of one of these games you're coming in.
[07:49:14] Sure, he died there, yeah, but he's also improving his odds of getting out of something.
[07:49:20] By not being lazy about where he is farming this can't.
[07:49:25] Hey, Jay.
[07:49:26] We finally paid a price trying to hold this mid tower or top tower up.
[07:49:31] Doesn't matter to get one last living armor before he goes down, but power is going to be
[07:49:36] as under assault from C.H.Wag and likely a broker just going to have to give this up.
[07:49:41] Midlane though, big damage off the coil in the silence, and it lasts just long enough
[07:49:46] to finish up Pylon, what a read from your junior with Wands that rotating in like that.
[07:49:51] That's duration when you risk it's just such a long three and a half seconds, then you
[07:49:57] get coil just so much locked out for this voice here, if you can't fight back and take
[07:50:01] it, it's a tree armor.
[07:50:03] Pretty much any follow-up there is a kill.
[07:50:06] So this map is scary for her rope to play right now.
[07:50:08] They have not gained a lot of that really snowball they were looking for with neapot joining early fights getting gate rotations any of that nonsense
[07:50:15] humans still very farmed
[07:50:16] So he is a big threat in a true
[07:50:19] 5v5
[07:50:20] That might have to be what he wrote for a while now. It's just out team fighting the index because they did not get a lot of that link he pays to go their way and all of these
[07:50:28] Andex cores are
[07:50:30] our big fat in charge of
[07:50:34] It's bottom of the courier
[07:50:36] KJ and his little element of surprise is gone here.
[07:50:41] It does look like mostly defense being played for heroic.
[07:50:45] Actually, a smoke up and aggressive move,
[07:50:48] straight into the chair of Junior though,
[07:50:50] so that's really not going to net anything.
[07:50:53] Don't have to lock that for this guy.
[07:50:55] Unless you've got perfectly changed on.
[07:50:58] Goosh lagging.
[07:50:59] You bushwack.
[07:51:00] The other quarters too far out here.
[07:51:02] Got under the trees, Malik.
[07:51:04] He's Malik. I mean, nobody from Yandik should get caught by this. Malik, he's getting away.
[07:51:10] KJ is not going to be able to catch up, Sonsa TPs, out-shared juniors already hitting mid,
[07:51:17] nice defense and play there from Yandik.
[07:51:20] I need early blink on people this game. I'm going to finish up the eyes for the magazine,
[07:51:24] but then blink might be your next item in a game like this, where your team's having issues
[07:51:29] catching heroes off these plays.
[07:51:31] I'm going to fight so far.
[07:51:35] I'm going to find me.
[07:51:38] Broke.
[07:51:39] We'll get a kill.
[07:51:41] Even if it's just a little five position.
[07:51:44] Feels like the heroic needed something to go there away.
[07:51:49] I mean, they can't just rely entirely on mepo being over-farned.
[07:51:54] Whisperer's got to push another wave and that is going to cost him.
[07:51:58] to try and turn his back as best he can feel the horrible interrupt
[07:52:01] what he can. Soxa is gonna get a bit low here.
[07:52:04] They'll look more delving at the sharp shooter though to finish my
[07:52:06] the grab on the puck and somehow the person back doesn't die as
[07:52:10] curing your chase and walking the punish. Soxa is still gonna die.
[07:52:14] Man, heroic show up at the perfect time. I cannot believe I thought
[07:52:19] 100% whispers that daddy surrounded by like four years.
[07:52:22] He had essence ring yet range drop and he had that new
[07:52:26] We need to get all that off otherwise that's a clean go for me index and we saw that hesitation from Watson. He did not want to put the damage into the play mail personal for good reason
[07:52:39] That's what ended up doing the majority of the
[07:52:42] The killing blow to the pub there, and that's the exact type of fight heroic one
[07:52:47] They want to drag the index into some skirmish and let the meepo show up to just clean house
[07:52:52] He needs an entry like that
[07:52:56] I'll be careful if you're in the Xervari strong right now that you do not want to
[07:52:59] get baited into these bad fight AJ's positioning is going to be so perfect here catching
[07:53:04] both of Horne to full largely off of this Tumblr toy where he got into that position
[07:53:09] Tumblr toy's got a really good high ground war to out, not over yet from now it's going to
[07:53:13] come through it does man's get one kill but the blame is going to turn a lot of damage
[07:53:16] back around on him and he can't finish off the meat both.
[07:53:18] The guys going out now wants and shows up trying to get a link trying to do what they
[07:53:22] He just gets bursted down.
[07:53:25] This is not a fight you can show up late for.
[07:53:29] And another great pushback landing on the cheer junior at the end of that.
[07:53:34] They just blow him up with the burst damage.
[07:53:37] It's all bristle back there getting in there with the blade mill.
[07:53:40] No one has BKB's yet.
[07:53:41] There's no pipe in this line of abusing all these ranged heroes with their reflect damage.
[07:53:46] Just sitting in the middle of them.
[07:53:47] And again, what is all this fight weean towards?
[07:53:50] of people clean up.
[07:53:51] He gets to come in later.
[07:53:52] He tanks a bunch of damage already
[07:53:53] as the eggs done go into the magnificent
[07:53:55] no way you're finishing them off.
[07:53:58] Perfect set up there from the heroic supports
[07:54:01] and a very clean team fight for them.
[07:54:04] Five for nothing.
[07:54:05] It's going to blow this game open.
[07:54:07] This is very scary situation now for Yandex
[07:54:10] with a rogue getting this much momentum up five K.
[07:54:13] Up it experienced lead and now we're reaching
[07:54:15] into that objective territory.
[07:54:17] Where that scary moment where you can
[07:54:18] You start spiling things, go for Tormentor, go for enemy wisdom, try and go for Roachon.
[07:54:24] So, the end X got to keep that in mind.
[07:54:27] We had a play now, and it took a good choice for Wizvaria.
[07:54:31] Such a good wish, Waxu, right while Tylong was on top of the Pucks, you have the first damage there.
[07:54:35] I mean, that play was, that was over before it started.
[07:54:39] Tylong used going the Axe here.
[07:54:41] One of the best items in this puck matchup, here I go against the backline support duo.
[07:54:45] I was a bit worried was he going to be able to get to it in this game with how slow the pace was that fight?
[07:54:51] Absolutely pushes him towards it gets another power as well
[07:54:55] So you can be clear you don't like eggs on Boyd's spirit, but in the puck matchup
[07:55:00] It's a month
[07:55:01] It definitely goes off the bat. You consider
[07:55:04] Sure, this is the one matchup where if you get it in a good timing you can just completely shut down puck scheme
[07:55:10] Yes, to go out defensive I mean doesn't want to have to go
[07:55:15] So I like it here. I was hesitant to see if I was going to work out.
[07:55:20] And stuff like it will work out.
[07:55:24] Oh, they've got great objective takers.
[07:55:27] Pick me bristle back in me, bow.
[07:55:28] Form enter is easy.
[07:55:29] Roachon is easier.
[07:55:32] And the only thing that will be spared is the wind and shine.
[07:55:37] Harrow got both at 14. This one does get split.
[07:55:42] I think I'm wrong.
[07:55:43] I think you're all excited, my situation is toward out the skin.
[07:55:48] It wasn't easy to make calls on a lot of these items because you could have gone
[07:55:50] wars on the bristle. You could have tried to knock over the sags on the void spirit.
[07:55:55] Uma could have gone in early blink that he was debating, but now he's just going to
[07:55:58] scale up or because they got this roach. It's all about the sequencing here.
[07:56:04] I think all these items are going to work out nicely in terms of the timings
[07:56:07] whereas the index are going to have to try and just push towards the BKB on the
[07:56:10] the Razer is the big one for me. I think Watson has to have BKB to stay in the middle of these fights.
[07:56:16] There's just too much overall meat damage. The blade mails annoying the people.
[07:56:20] And that's a poose are annoying.
[07:56:30] There's another question is, is Razer...
[07:56:33] Can Razer carry this game against meatball?
[07:56:36] But we're all clunning down the shatter demon.
[07:56:39] These need pick up there.
[07:56:41] Raise your head.
[07:56:43] That is not good for Razor, right?
[07:56:44] No matter what it is about Mepo, like no part of the storm is getting soaked up by multiple targets.
[07:56:50] You know, your static link is unreliable.
[07:56:52] Well, I'll say this.
[07:56:54] The Mepo Razor matchup is pretty terrible for Razor until ultimately, where I think it does swing the other way
[07:57:00] because if you get the six-slot Razor with a refresher double-high-storm double-link, you will shred a make-up.
[07:57:06] At that point, Mega Depot is just complete food.
[07:57:09] Okay.
[07:57:10] Regular Depot.
[07:57:12] I don't think he does enough single quarter first,
[07:57:14] unless you get like the jump hacks on the razor.
[07:57:17] But again,
[07:57:17] Depot with jump hacks can be good against anything in the game.
[07:57:21] You're kind of valuable.
[07:57:22] Oh, I'm kidding.
[07:57:23] He did that sharps you to the land.
[07:57:25] It might still catch him, though.
[07:57:27] But try to be as elusive as possible,
[07:57:28] but he's running out of options.
[07:57:30] He is done.
[07:57:31] So hard to escape.
[07:57:34] There's so much chase down there.
[07:57:36] There's that eggs for the boy spirit.
[07:57:38] Region Rune gonna boost,
[07:57:39] tie along up to full resources as well.
[07:57:42] They lost nothing to make that play.
[07:57:45] He had to just scrambling around the map.
[07:57:46] This is what people toast to you.
[07:57:48] Now, like a drunken one.
[07:57:50] He's already drawn on the map that he wants to go up
[07:57:53] and cut waves, but there was a deep lane ward
[07:57:57] or deep river ward on the bottom part of the map
[07:57:59] that spotted a making this move.
[07:58:00] And now they're just gonna chase him down.
[07:58:02] Now, being spared doesn't stop,
[07:58:04] The Ulls does, though. So, now he will not be able to get through the game.
[07:58:13] Nice little Ulls pick up from KJK, give him another stun to play with another setup for the pushwack and runnin.
[07:58:21] I don't know what the bite is on the old core. We'll see if that pays off. My fist was.
[07:58:26] Yeah, you went that. You got it pretty early here.
[07:58:30] Trying to get a hex up in this game. Maybe feels like there's no mid tier item
[07:58:33] the matters, but I disagree with that in terms of helping your meatball.
[07:58:38] There's a lot of items you can buy to help people, and I think you have to respect this
[07:58:41] is a meatball game. This might as has to go a long way in this game to eventually pay off.
[07:58:50] Those give you more leaking scale. If you're worried about, you know, your course potentially
[07:58:55] falling off at some point, but I don't think this is the type of game where you think about that too much.
[07:59:00] You don't think about the GameClock has 35 minutes, and we are in need.
[07:59:05] Yeah, that is kind of the interval you're looking at here on a road, so just by just
[07:59:11] doing anything by that time, not in my opinion, not really if it goes later than it will.
[07:59:18] And here's some BKDs for Yandex, huge timing for them to pick up timber and razor BKD,
[07:59:24] they're either going to build one on Chira Junior's puck.
[07:59:26] and
[07:59:28] like a couple
[07:59:30] yeah chair engineer trying gas per lane to cut waves but it's so difficult to do that against a train protect or got him on the sounds got him on the road
[07:59:38] he will still be able to get a silence off here gets up to the high ground another orb is up at a second but they come back to finish the job
[07:59:45] hard-tied long doesn't even bother looking at him he won't make it to waste where we need some hop off the blanket he will stop the team from chasing after it
[07:59:53] way male to potent malinic now with his BKB getting caught initially wanted to kill whisper
[07:59:57] and then get out. Fortunately for him overgrowth on cooldown, using it on the pucks so we
[08:00:03] is able to tee-pee back but on his head kill. And Watson literally just killed himself on
[08:00:08] the blade meal never pop BKB. You just dealt 3-300 damage to himself and thought.
[08:00:15] I need to be fair how much with popping BKB do in that setup.
[08:00:23] like he's mostly doing physical damage, right?
[08:00:27] I think he, at least, this, oh, I don't know, that's an awkward death.
[08:00:32] I mean, I understand your point, but like you can get rid of some of the slow and back offers, I don't know.
[08:00:38] That just looked really weird.
[08:00:41] I think either way you should, or whatever, well, he's happening there, should not have happened.
[08:00:48] maybe he kind of made the call, you know, I'm going to be able to all in him, or there
[08:00:53] reflect kills me. And I get to save my BKV and then I get to buy another day.
[08:00:59] Does have been pure on his signature, so maybe he was banking on some extra life
[08:01:03] still coming through. This bristle does a lot, man. It gets minus armor on you,
[08:01:09] to reflect physical. It's pretty brutal.
[08:01:16] Look at Whisper. He's thinking about a blink dagger.
[08:01:22] You just want to get in there, I guess, man.
[08:01:25] I guess.
[08:01:29] Have you ever seen that before?
[08:01:32] I've seen 8, you have to do it a couple times.
[08:01:35] I'm actually very much.
[08:01:39] Grab here on socks, I mean, it isn't heroic to stay able to run the map at this point in time.
[08:01:44] Radiant.
[08:01:45] Yandex have clearly not been able to showcase any threat at all, so heroic we're just gonna run around killing things until something happens that punishes them.
[08:01:55] This is Meepo's map right now.
[08:01:58] You don't have to crew and just protect your vision or you're gonna lose a lot of lane control because the Meepo can threaten pickoffs across two three lanes.
[08:02:07] to use just cannot shut them out right now.
[08:02:10] You're seeing the map constrict heavily for you.
[08:02:13] And I say, no wards out.
[08:02:15] No real area control they do.
[08:02:17] If the eggs are on malady,
[08:02:19] they're doubled in a lot of purge plus break.
[08:02:23] Also be a big pick off of the match.
[08:02:25] And that's a five position,
[08:02:27] but taking this tree out of the game
[08:02:29] or removing some of these eyes from going down
[08:02:32] to be able to get the map out a little.
[08:02:35] They need to, they need time right now.
[08:02:40] Give me Bo gets to Scotty.
[08:02:47] That, that, to me is kind of the, the wind zone for a rook, so to say.
[08:02:52] Now, that's, I don't where you want to win the game off of it, and the me Bo's strength.
[08:02:57] Not that he is capping out completely, but that is, that's his massive power spike here.
[08:03:04] the
[08:03:08] relative least speaking it will be the strongest he is compared to the end X right.
[08:03:12] Yeah, you can always, you know, he can get this hex later on he can go for jump pick off plays.
[08:03:19] Generally though, this is, this is where the hero just abuses the hell out of his net worth league, you know, he's six or seven K ahead.
[08:03:26] It's almost 50% that ratio is probably highest right now that it will be at least he just clears through their whole base and you're
[08:03:34] 20,000 ahead because the game is ended.
[08:03:37] Man, with the unbelievable spikes, the triple-beb,
[08:03:39] tree vision bottom, and the war.
[08:03:41] They know there's nothing down at the bottom part of the bath,
[08:03:44] so they smoke up and go to this top left corner.
[08:03:47] And are going to be rewarded with a couple of kills here.
[08:03:49] Here, Junior has to pop the BKB, but even that,
[08:03:52] he's just going to get overgrowth, won't be able to work
[08:03:54] away, they only be one hit, and they'll get it
[08:03:56] before he can get the winning rent out.
[08:04:00] She's nobody who can fight this people
[08:04:03] Once he shows up, it's up, and now you're about to race to the other side of the map.
[08:04:06] Tills the pocket immediately moves the meepo to the other side, and kills the melody, the map, getting smaller and smaller for Yandon.
[08:04:15] Constructing him everywhere.
[08:04:17] The people abuse his backlines so damn hard. Two single target supports.
[08:04:22] Who kind of need time in the fight to do their thing, just food for this hero.
[08:04:27] Absolute food.
[08:04:28] And now you're, again, another corner of the map.
[08:04:31] He goes back to take Tormentor, Rind is in spawn, to a fishin' way to a fishin'
[08:04:38] and there's even the hex for the hoodwink, that might be his pain off.
[08:04:42] Yeah, that would be the extra cast range.
[08:04:46] We're also gonna have that Scotty timing on top of the next Rochon.
[08:04:50] Like, the plays have happened so fast for a real month,
[08:04:53] I wasn't sure he was gonna get Scotty before Rochon responds,
[08:04:57] but he's pretty much got it.
[08:04:59] It's going to be flying out to him.
[08:05:01] I even have level 25 around that objective too.
[08:05:05] Yeah.
[08:05:07] Crazy to think about.
[08:05:08] He's very far ahead.
[08:05:13] They're Scotty.
[08:05:14] This is his time to end this game.
[08:05:17] Yendix trying to take a fight with desperately
[08:05:21] want to find any isolated hero that they
[08:05:23] could just jump, heck, shackle, blow them up.
[08:05:25] That's what they're lying at this design to do.
[08:05:29] pray that heroic or not grouped. But guess what they are grouped all five on this outposts.
[08:05:35] That is not a position you want to go into. Would be an absolute massacre. You have to be patient here if you're
[08:05:41] And I can see the endics.
[08:05:45] I mean, how, like, being patient is one thing, but they're just going to get out
[08:05:51] Matt right by a road because they can split up the neapot.
[08:05:56] Oh, I'm kind of, they're kind of flirting with going in here.
[08:06:01] They don't strong there.
[08:06:02] And read it a little down.
[08:06:04] They're going to go through the gate.
[08:06:08] are they trying to catch like a mebo from you mom the other side of that because you
[08:06:13] ma was up there and they have a ward so they must have spotted one of those
[08:06:16] mebo's at some point to a hundred percent looking for one of the random clones
[08:06:20] or the set of clones that's following my kj
[08:06:23] uh oh or you ma you might actually pinged up there they do have a tree on one of the
[08:06:28] gates so it's possible that somebody was looking at the gate and saw a
[08:06:32] channel.
[08:06:33] He proved everything to his main depot, so he dodged that tank.
[08:06:39] Perfect map right here.
[08:06:40] Broke and they're going to try and reinforce this rose down before.
[08:06:43] He had to keep him to get back into the fight.
[08:06:46] Just a little bit before the end, he can actually get here with her blinking and trying to stop.
[08:06:50] He need blink-daggering hisiation.
[08:06:51] Just lit.
[08:06:52] You must take the rose on, get the ages.
[08:06:54] And now start by fight.
[08:06:55] Watch that early BKB has to be put in.
[08:06:57] Make a mebook just in the nick of time.
[08:06:59] Keep the ages intact for now.
[08:07:01] He's gonna fall off at that one.
[08:07:02] Ty Long gets silence.
[08:07:04] Get purged.
[08:07:05] He's gonna take a lot of damage here.
[08:07:06] It doesn't have to be KB.
[08:07:07] So does Chiriz Jr.
[08:07:08] Gareth.
[08:07:09] You can track down Ty Long at least.
[08:07:10] It would be something for Yandex to work off of.
[08:07:12] But nothing.
[08:07:13] Midley.
[08:07:14] Well, yeah.
[08:07:15] Malik, he's not making an out of here.
[08:07:17] Anybody who's getting run after by the Mepo is going to die.
[08:07:21] It's only Chiriz Jr.
[08:07:22] who manages to stay alive.
[08:07:23] It's called KBKB.
[08:07:24] And they're done.
[08:07:25] They're done with this one.
[08:07:26] Horoxio up in game one with a Mepo pick.
[08:07:30] and it dismantles the end-backs.
[08:07:33] That's a nasty good.
[08:07:34] It's a really good 18-foot-me-bo.
[08:07:36] There's nothing that really combat
[08:07:37] in early Galane.
[08:07:39] The lanes did not go well for heroic,
[08:07:41] but the meatball was free from it.
[08:07:42] And that's what they prioritized.
[08:07:43] That's what they put all their attention
[08:07:46] into an absolute pace.
[08:07:47] Offer's destructive pick.
[08:07:49] The end-backs could not deal with.
[08:07:50] I was thinking that 35-minute mark
[08:07:52] was gonna be the win-perioded.
[08:07:54] Did they even get there?
[08:07:55] 33, just ends.
[08:07:57] That meatball mid-game.
[08:07:58] The way you can construct all the lanes, threaten pickoffs, drag heroes around, and just
[08:08:03] poop everybody to rush on instantly, it's so hard to deal with the map ability and the pressure
[08:08:08] that's why the repo with game is where this hero wants to close it out because no hero can
[08:08:13] ramp up fast enough to deal with. It's impossible.
[08:08:16] Take a bite now with the vision that KJ was able to get. I mean, this dream protector
[08:08:20] is not as much of a landing face, right? And it's still felt like tree protector was broken
[08:08:24] in this game, he still got some good overgrowth, but the vision from the Shard and all the aggressive
[08:08:29] words he was able to get down was way too valuable.
[08:08:33] It's just an nasty combo. You have extra vision on top of the Mibo Vaptant role.
[08:08:38] What a suffocating game to play.
[08:08:41] Absolutely, Yandas gonna have to think about it. Do they ban out the Mibo? Do they ban out the
[08:08:45] tree? What's next going into game two?
[08:08:47] All the super valid questions that we have to ask right now is that that change up that will happen in a best of fun.
[08:08:59] But we can focus on the game one now and give us the most details about how this could be more changes going on as well.
[08:09:05] I mean, there was actually a lot of back and forth. Like I was very happy, like seeing the end-exes lanes, like early on. They were doing very well.
[08:09:12] all of them, but honestly, heroic are just, they're like especially to you know,
[08:09:16] they play their own type of heroes, sometimes it's kind of like hard to understand how
[08:09:19] gluten heroes actually are like I'm not going to go out to you say I'm a Mito
[08:09:22] extra, I thought they would have a harder time in this game, but once it hits like
[08:09:25] mid game, they got like one play going and then you're seeing like they got one play after
[08:09:29] the other after the other mega Mito ages killed them in here. Okay, easy, there's something
[08:09:33] so beautiful like when they have certain heroes, you know that they always have the
[08:09:37] timings in the back of their head. And then when they're making the moves like as
[08:09:39] As long as we do this, we know one guy is going to hit that timing and I think you
[08:09:42] will be the main character in that sense.
[08:09:45] Like, he was the top network for that team.
[08:09:46] There was a couple of problems with the Bruce about the tree early game.
[08:09:49] Even boys for it wasn't really top network, but they knew their job was just
[08:09:52] buy a little time, wait for you to be ready.
[08:09:55] And then when you have everyone in play, you are just going to break them.
[08:09:58] And of course, there's so many little things that you can
[08:10:00] know of the praise to her right.
[08:10:01] But yeah, just get you mirrored line and you'll break your opponent.
[08:10:05] This is such a cool angle to watch a meeper play.
[08:10:07] Otherwise, there's no one who plays Neeper with the level that you've been doing.
[08:10:10] And this is Guga, if you, I'm right there.
[08:10:12] I think he's maybe the only grandmaster from Neeper player.
[08:10:16] I think he's probably the best individual Neeper player in the ProSene.
[08:10:21] So watching him play is a treat to be sure.
[08:10:23] But it's also like the way that he was playing.
[08:10:26] It felt like he was just, it was like calm as well.
[08:10:28] Like there was not any collect, so it's like,
[08:10:30] you can see the frustration or the confusion.
[08:10:33] Like it just felt very clear.
[08:10:34] He knows exactly what he needs to do, and he's one of the best people players currently in competitive scenes.
[08:10:39] So again, no fault to him, of course, finishing the game 12, 1 and 6.
[08:10:43] And 18-pick people. It could have been any other hero potentially, but they just punished the...
[08:10:49] I'm just looking at Yandek's support, I said it during the draft, but when I see like SD and Charmin,
[08:10:54] you really are inviting, you must go, what type of punk's a hero do you want to play?
[08:10:58] We have two defensive heroes that are waiting for my course to be ready like to me.
[08:11:02] I just didn't really like the double supportive Yandex and her work, they are one of the best teams.
[08:11:06] That punishing a very kind of face up value style of draw that Yandex presented.
[08:11:11] Yeah, I mean, I'm always going to view things a little bit through mid lanes and I look at this game and they've got double range supports with range mid.
[08:11:17] In general, I think that is just for a bit.
[08:11:19] You can't have triple range heroes in your around your fighting areas because it just makes the way you start fights as more time progresses,
[08:11:25] incredibly, like you need to stop lanes, it's no
[08:11:28] both so hard or your draft just functions
[08:11:30] in an incredibly weird way and I think
[08:11:31] heroic has that in space, they've got
[08:11:33] multiple jumpers, they've got three melee
[08:11:35] cores who are just running in doing crap,
[08:11:37] they've got the fall of moves from hoodwink,
[08:11:38] I think their draft is way easier to play,
[08:11:40] and I don't think Yen X is a team that is
[08:11:42] comfortable playing through mega lane
[08:11:43] snowball, that's not how they function,
[08:11:45] that's not how their players want to play,
[08:11:47] I think they need to go back more to their
[08:11:48] fundamentals and the way this team likes,
[08:11:50] which is structural integrity, a draft that makes
[08:11:52] sense scales while in the heroes help each other,
[08:11:54] because these heroes, it's quadruple range to your back to back.
[08:11:57] Liquid can make it work because it's how they function
[08:11:59] and it's got a melee four.
[08:12:01] When you've one of those range to yours,
[08:12:02] it's your four hero.
[08:12:03] It's just, it's way too hard.
[08:12:05] And more importantly, heroic hit points, bear, right?
[08:12:08] That's right.
[08:12:08] Fire, I don't even have all the long
[08:12:10] and there's nothing due to my contractual obligation
[08:12:12] to focus on points, bear.
[08:12:13] Of course, so I'm absolutely not
[08:12:14] but yeah, boy, it's bear getting another win for himself, bear,
[08:12:17] and we don't have to talk about tree a little bit.
[08:12:19] Because it's mostly being band out.
[08:12:21] There's a couple games that get through tea,
[08:12:23] But how exactly is this new tree supposed to be played?
[08:12:27] How you transition out of a landing phase?
[08:12:29] Yeah, I got to be careful because the way the KG play
[08:12:32] is very different to other tree players.
[08:12:33] OK.
[08:12:34] It likes to walk towards mid, get this random more down.
[08:12:37] He wants to try and play on the career, play on the gang.
[08:12:40] And also he's playing in the off-lane as well,
[08:12:42] like trying to enable the bristle.
[08:12:43] I think there's something vulnerable with a root style of true
[08:12:46] and protective, like the early game,
[08:12:47] because of how KG played it.
[08:12:49] It didn't bite, raise it to have a good time.
[08:12:52] He also didn't really help the boys,
[08:12:53] but to kind of break the pot back in the mid lane,
[08:12:56] because you see here KJ, he died at the first spot,
[08:12:58] then he gets the shot,
[08:12:59] there's he goes for the losses contest and also dies.
[08:13:02] So there are some moves from KJ
[08:13:04] that didn't really feel like they were breaking open the game.
[08:13:07] But again, the back of my mind, I was like,
[08:13:08] I don't think it matters,
[08:13:10] because I can see the meat we're getting on there.
[08:13:11] I can see like the big picture for her extra,
[08:13:13] but if he doesn't die here,
[08:13:14] if he plays a clean again,
[08:13:15] if he ganks the pot,
[08:13:16] these are also motions that if slightly better,
[08:13:19] he will break the mid lane,
[08:13:20] He will break the cruise and bot lane like I can see it being quite a volatile place
[08:13:24] now, but again, it didn't really punish her work because when you get into the game with
[08:13:27] his your purchase, he's finding on the map, he's finding the part getting the kill.
[08:13:30] So even though lane in phase is a little questionable, his entry to the game is optimization
[08:13:35] and the way that he was always looking for the next play, made people and other heroes feel great.
[08:13:39] So again, something to note, the train the lane in phase, a little sauce, but in the game,
[08:13:44] really, really good.
[08:13:45] I mean, like he made that up for it, I guess, like later on, right, like finding all these
[08:13:48] plays and helping his team out, and we'll say you can tell, I think, a little bit with
[08:13:52] like, Yannick's play style or the way to execute the game that they do have a standard.
[08:13:55] I mean, you just talk about that draft. You have like four range guys then. The one
[08:13:58] that who, like, maybe has to use his body and his HP, like, really well, he's your standard.
[08:14:02] Maybe he wants to, like, farm a bit more. He's not fully ready. So you can definitely tell,
[08:14:05] I think there were some gameplay issues going on. I think for Yannick's, like, within the mid game
[08:14:09] this time around. So I do hope that they can, like, kind of get it together. Obviously, it's a
[08:14:12] be a five. You can keep trying out of things, make yourself, like, comfortable, but this game,
[08:14:16] Like from the mid game onwards, I don't think the game should be that hard.
[08:14:19] Like for you playing Pac, I think he had a good time early on.
[08:14:21] They did some other good stuff.
[08:14:22] So his game, like, faltering so much, I think that shouldn't happen in this game.
[08:14:26] Yeah, I agree.
[08:14:27] And I think a lot of it comes down to a couple of fights and sort of the middle of the game.
[08:14:30] I think they just messed up in a very strange way.
[08:14:33] Their supports get started on.
[08:14:34] I think we have, like, uh, it's just, you can't have your, your squishy's getting gone on like that.
[08:14:39] But you have a timer, so you pick him as you're supposed to be your beefy boy that gets gone on first.
[08:14:42] When you're back on to get snifed, and Pac is just sort of feeding kills.
[08:14:45] totally agree like I think this is a game where you farm up where you get really fast
[08:14:49] and you just are okay playing a more chill game and you get to the Cheevas because so then
[08:14:52] you can actually be more of a front line. I think you can see it here where you have the
[08:14:55] Storm and Battle Permanent and SD. The Bowling back on supports, they both get started on and then
[08:15:01] Genics, it's very weird to me that they all come here and they take this by after both
[08:15:04] the supports that I'm going to die. You just cut your losses, you need everyone here and
[08:15:08] I think that goes back in this gameplay problems of hey this is like a disconnect place. The
[08:15:13] The way Yennex lost felt like a crumbling.
[08:15:15] Not only say we're out, like they were outplayed,
[08:15:17] absolutely heroic played well.
[08:15:18] But Yennex also kind of just saw meat grinder
[08:15:20] and was like, yeah, I'm going to be in there.
[08:15:23] Let's just keep going.
[08:15:24] There's a lot of power in this meat grinder right now.
[08:15:25] So that's the pressure of the pre-20 minute version, right?
[08:15:28] The idea is like, what if it won't get the pre-version,
[08:15:30] and then they get the tremendous loss.
[08:15:31] So in their heads, we need to contest it,
[08:15:33] but it needs to be like pop-cusing an orable
[08:15:35] to be able to use a shaker.
[08:15:36] It needs to be some random poke, random vision,
[08:15:39] and then you might punish you delay, you buy time.
[08:15:41] But the fact is, they're like to awkwardly stumble their way in.
[08:15:44] I feel like that play conceptually is good,
[08:15:47] but they need so much of an execution.
[08:15:49] Like being there is fine, but it needs to be a different
[08:15:51] hero in a different position to ring a different spell.
[08:15:52] So maybe it's a nice thing like good.
[08:15:54] Yeah, they kind of ran in.
[08:15:54] Probably not very good.
[08:15:56] Yeah, it's been kind of like a slacker round.
[08:15:58] The fifth thing I just need like two of a dudes to be there
[08:16:00] that supports to not be listening to the cause,
[08:16:01] and then they might have a better cause.
[08:16:03] They're a small crosshair placement.
[08:16:04] Yeah, I brought my place with the resolution, reinstall.
[08:16:07] But for that clearly wasn't because of the only thing
[08:16:09] and kind of fell apart for Yandex.
[08:16:12] There must have been more leading up
[08:16:14] to it to be in that position to get caught out.
[08:16:15] I mean, they even did like other good things beforehand.
[08:16:18] I want to show one of the things that they actually did well
[08:16:20] and like they're early to make him because again,
[08:16:22] they did good stuff early on to like give themselves
[08:16:24] a lead, they had good lanes.
[08:16:26] But then later like they just go for like a play.
[08:16:28] And I think we have a clip ready where it's like,
[08:16:30] it's just not really connecting that nicely,
[08:16:32] really with what they were doing.
[08:16:34] Because if you think, you know,
[08:16:35] yeah, it's just like not really happening.
[08:16:37] Where it's like if you look at the Roy,
[08:16:39] They just keep doing that nice things,
[08:16:40] but what you can see here is gigantic state.
[08:16:42] Doing really well in the early game,
[08:16:44] they move well in their lanes.
[08:16:45] They go to this offline.
[08:16:46] They get a kill, they're making this play happening.
[08:16:48] At the same time, like you can look to mid.
[08:16:50] You already have Jerrojo, who's like slowly walking there,
[08:16:52] you know, he starts touching,
[08:16:53] and he's like, yo, I'm here.
[08:16:54] I'm gonna damage you down.
[08:16:56] You have the TP here for Watson.
[08:16:57] He comes in.
[08:16:58] You know, you go top, you gotta kill there.
[08:17:00] You make a simultaneously mid.
[08:17:02] You kill another dude, like from here on,
[08:17:03] you're building up the game nicely.
[08:17:04] You do it nicely, but then we saw this whole renders play later.
[08:17:07] where it's like, you can use one puck to orb the roast pit.
[08:17:10] Okay, they're not roasting.
[08:17:11] Fine, fine, fine, fine.
[08:17:12] Well, they said it's like one guy dies.
[08:17:13] You got that, oh, let's go, go.
[08:17:15] I was like, whoo!
[08:17:17] All right, got to do it.
[08:17:17] Oh, my God, sorry.
[08:17:18] I don't know.
[08:17:19] It's the sixth game of the day.
[08:17:20] I kind of lost track.
[08:17:21] Anyway, back to you.
[08:17:21] It feels like our panels, you know, one person does the bitnins,
[08:17:23] like all of us have to commit to it.
[08:17:25] That was the end of this play.
[08:17:26] And we're right there.
[08:17:27] He's gotten died together, you know?
[08:17:29] And one guy's gonna be a clown, we gotta follow suit.
[08:17:32] Keep that up, keep that up, be sure.
[08:17:34] What do we get to talk about next?
[08:17:36] I don't know what you want to talk about.
[08:17:38] I don't know the jump in actually.
[08:17:40] I want to talk about the items.
[08:17:42] Did you guys see what's the older Corbot?
[08:17:44] Yeah, my God.
[08:17:45] I didn't buy this into hex on holdmen.
[08:17:47] Wow.
[08:17:48] That's the base build, right?
[08:17:50] I think that is based.
[08:17:51] That's an interview.
[08:17:52] Correct.
[08:17:53] It's not based.
[08:17:54] No, so the thing is, he's paying against SD.
[08:17:55] I'm just going to try to give rational.
[08:17:57] I don't know if it's good.
[08:17:58] But it's kind of big.
[08:17:59] Cook as someone else.
[08:18:00] Okay.
[08:18:01] So you can buy defensive items against SD because he will purge it.
[08:18:03] So what do you do and said you go for the bigger item, the 8k gold item?
[08:18:06] So he buys mightas to then get the hex for the people for the cover.
[08:18:09] They can catch diamonds. See you later.
[08:18:11] I fully agree.
[08:18:12] He got to the W.
[08:18:12] So why are you talking?
[08:18:13] My guy new puck was okay.
[08:18:16] Yep.
[08:18:17] My this is bad math item.
[08:18:18] That's my counter-argument.
[08:18:19] Did you?
[08:18:20] Are you a big hater of the mine?
[08:18:23] I didn't run the numbers.
[08:18:24] When did I pay off?
[08:18:25] Okay.
[08:18:26] Don't tell me.
[08:18:26] You know what, instead of arguing with us.
[08:18:29] Maybe there's someone else that you are much more familiar arguing with.
[08:18:32] Do you know who?
[08:18:33] It's a free.
[08:18:35] Let's check what that cost is.
[08:18:37] Yeah, it's tight now.
[08:18:39] Holy moly.
[08:18:40] On the Queen's Kalaan.
[08:18:41] Tell him he's wrong about his disbelief in the modest.
[08:18:44] Hmm.
[08:18:45] Quinn's been wrong about a lot of stuff.
[08:18:46] Yeah.
[08:18:47] He's got a whole segment of Kalaan.
[08:18:52] I have no doubt Quinn was scouting this guy.
[08:18:54] And that prompted the retirement.
[08:18:56] He's like, I'm out of here.
[08:18:57] This guy's just got it.
[08:18:58] I don't want to be embarrassed in it.
[08:18:59] But you think that he's going to get it from the with lightest.
[08:19:01] It might as it's going to be over.
[08:19:03] You're getting cooked right.
[08:19:05] You've been saying Vortius bath is so long.
[08:19:07] And then, Nisha, come here.
[08:19:08] He has high lung for their own heroes.
[08:19:10] Yeah, we can buff them.
[08:19:11] Look, she said you guys should definitely pick an avar.
[08:19:14] I love hearing your takes, especially,
[08:19:16] Valovously, Quinn's retirement, but Cap, I'd love to hear from you.
[08:19:19] How are you doing?
[08:19:20] I'm doing great. How are you, Cap?
[08:19:22] I'm doing really well, thanks.
[08:19:24] Well, I'm glad to hear it. I was Malta for you guys.
[08:19:27] Really windy actually it's been
[08:19:30] Sainely windy. It is like to the point where the doors have like slight. This is such a niche
[08:19:35] So it's totally good
[08:19:36] So there's like a little gap and it's so windy. It's like a how that comes through the doors
[08:19:40] It's actually a last night was legit scary. Yeah, we're on the fourth floor and everyone's like shaking in that mood's going to bet
[08:19:47] So it's really good. You say it was giga windy
[08:19:50] I think I would use the word giga yeah
[08:19:53] Actually like I feel like I'm kind of missing out being remote on the experience
[08:19:56] is Quinn, could you maybe dive in with some sound effects?
[08:19:59] Oh, what?
[08:20:00] The room is kind of like...
[08:20:01] Oh, my God.
[08:20:03] Oh, my God.
[08:20:04] What is the like, for some or...
[08:20:06] Quinn's like a soundboard.
[08:20:07] Like, for the other reason, like any time you mention
[08:20:09] some sort of noise, like,
[08:20:10] Quinn just, like, has to make a sound effect for me.
[08:20:13] But we're going to leave you with that one.
[08:20:15] I don't know whether it's a highlight or a look
[08:20:16] who I don't need to think.
[08:20:17] But we will be back with you guys when the games
[08:20:19] continue to have everything.
[08:20:21] Thank you so much for joining us.
[08:20:22] A lot of fun had with both of them.
[08:20:25] of course getting to roast Quinn a little bit. I love who doesn't love doing that. That's
[08:20:29] such her. Okay, I thought someone was gonna argue I thought he was gonna fight back but there is
[08:20:34] no fighting back from Quinn on what is out there. But hopefully there's a little bit of fight back
[08:20:38] in the year next right now as best of five is gonna continue just off to this break.
[08:22:55] Well, after hours of our first best of five between Falcons and Liquid, Heroic said,
[08:23:05] hey, I will speed up your night and they end game number one in just over 33 minutes, I believe
[08:23:11] it was, anyone can correct me if I'm wrong and now I do wonder if they're able to do it back
[08:23:15] to back because this is the fun of a best of five. It's not twice that you need to do it.
[08:23:20] It's three times to be able to get the win for yourself.
[08:23:23] And there are a lot of changes in what teams want to ban
[08:23:27] and pick for themselves most notably for this one.
[08:23:29] Heroic not having first pick,
[08:23:31] so they take out that tram projectile.
[08:23:34] Yeah, I think it's also interesting
[08:23:36] that Yanax is banning that right
[08:23:37] are from both sides, I believe.
[08:23:39] So they are first pick and they're the ones
[08:23:41] banning the bot rider.
[08:23:42] So that's me says, okay, you're going to be banning
[08:23:43] the entire series.
[08:23:45] Every time you pick up one of these bands,
[08:23:46] it's a problem ban for both sides.
[08:23:48] That's a worry out like you meant bending the razor from first pick as well.
[08:23:51] It's like the hero of the last series and now here like Yandex and Luzvitt, you know,
[08:23:56] binding against himself. It's, I think it's cut scary and you're that position. Like you can't
[08:24:01] be doing this when you're this deep into a tournament. Like normally if you can't play a hero,
[08:24:06] you learn how to play against it, you let everything's pick it and then you just smash it and then
[08:24:10] you go, look, you're tournament is bad, right? So I am worried for Yandex having this, uh,
[08:24:14] It's kind of logic so far, but again, we'll see where they want to go with the direction of that draft.
[08:24:18] Yeah, I agree with you guys, especially because of the Razer. I mean, they're locked with us now.
[08:24:22] It could be, I mean, the one thing we have to look for again is like maybe, you know, Malik being their standard.
[08:24:26] Like maybe noticed he usually plays with them. He can play it. Maybe Malik hasn't been on the board. I don't know.
[08:24:31] You know, it happens that some people don't play it.
[08:24:33] But he's master. He's also through to the port. Of course, you know, they aren't exactly the first thing Viper.
[08:24:38] So that's kind of the obvious one. But again, no respect.
[08:24:42] at the moment towards Tylong's Beastmaster?
[08:24:46] Or even Whisper's Beastmaster's Beastmaster's Beastmaster?
[08:24:48] Yeah, and it'd be pretty bad against Viper, I think.
[08:24:51] I would be...
[08:24:52] Hold that's the one for the second.
[08:24:53] They've done this one before.
[08:24:55] Like, on nine against Viper?
[08:24:56] Yeah, really.
[08:24:57] I don't remember if they've won a last second,
[08:24:59] but I saw Tylong, middle, something something against Viper, middle.
[08:25:02] Yeah, they played mid.
[08:25:03] A nickname that played offlane, a nickname that they played.
[08:25:05] Five position, a nickname that they already put this here
[08:25:09] into any row required to get it through the draft.
[08:25:12] It's just a weird response to Viper to me.
[08:25:15] And I think if you want to put something made against Viper,
[08:25:17] I don't think it's an angle.
[08:25:18] I think if anything Viper mid should be one of the better heroes
[08:25:22] thing that's a name of them, it'd be good to just push the way
[08:25:23] brain deadly.
[08:25:24] So you don't have to deal with these idolons outlasted in you.
[08:25:27] So to me, this is, it's very heroic.
[08:25:30] We talked about the age to sort of play their heroes
[08:25:32] and they jam them and they make them look better.
[08:25:34] They may be another team would.
[08:25:35] So there is some respect there.
[08:25:38] But at the same time, I don't really get it.
[08:25:41] I mean, I would say so they can flex to hero.
[08:25:43] I mean, I gained a little more not respect,
[08:25:45] but like maybe the value of how they can play it.
[08:25:48] Like when KJ played it five, not going to say
[08:25:50] Nigma five is good, but it's a lot about like the small things
[08:25:52] you can do.
[08:25:53] Second, like three cans here, some guy farms it.
[08:25:54] You start playing the map against Viper.
[08:25:56] I do think there are some pros to it.
[08:25:58] And if you play it mid, I didn't play this matchup,
[08:26:00] but I would assume that Nigma should do good.
[08:26:02] And even if you split the waves, like you said,
[08:26:04] you just, you know, you spit on the ground with your net
[08:26:06] or talks and you just push it out.
[08:26:07] And then you're sure that at least what
[08:26:08] then I like maybe two creeps everywhere.
[08:26:10] Probably depends a little bit on skill. I mean in England, the Nigma mid is a broken lane or just straight up. Yeah, and so
[08:26:16] If he's not think he's friend in the mid if you're not crushing the lane and it kind of sucks because his vision is like weird if your temple is not crazy
[08:26:26] Well now with the second phase bends that Chikiro is taken out
[08:26:30] That's not too much of a change of it was banned in the last game as well just where was thing at bend and
[08:26:36] Meeper they definitely giving it that respect there and so now
[08:26:39] Now, that's a band put into that second phase where you wonder if this is against anyone else
[08:26:45] of what would have been deemed as more important?
[08:26:48] Yeah, I don't know.
[08:26:49] I feel like they kind of forgot about tusk on the Andex, but he wrote it from the phase of
[08:26:53] tusk, then you have tusk in the Gamer, you're keeping the flexibility in life, a lot more
[08:26:56] with the Gamer.
[08:26:57] If it needs to go offline, you've got one of the best four positions to utilize, but tusk
[08:27:01] is such a great body at containing heroes.
[08:27:03] So you had a little bit of the due damage, but again, the resensee of the people in game
[08:27:07] one that's full from the bottom of his. I do this mebo band also worries me because I think
[08:27:14] people are super bad against life. Like this. Like I was like almost a card countering it because
[08:27:18] you slow attacks be to zero. He just can't hit you. So the fact they've banned it there it's me
[08:27:24] is a fear ban and not a logic ban and when you start doing fear bans I get worried. Yeah and then
[08:27:29] I wrote the tape the tiny again the win rate on four is positive the win rate on mid is negative
[08:27:35] but it won't lately.
[08:27:36] It's a super trash, super trash, yeah.
[08:27:39] But it's all been negative.
[08:27:41] At least with tiny, you can still see the pressure
[08:27:44] so often, okay?
[08:27:47] Yeah, that's not going full double call picks.
[08:27:51] I mean, honestly, I don't mind it.
[08:27:54] I think Malik is going to play some Mars,
[08:27:56] keep it here over guardless.
[08:27:57] He's like, very experienced Mars player.
[08:27:59] So for me, you just pick up the Mars.
[08:28:01] You pick him as dude and let him play it.
[08:28:03] Now the worry is you're going to get kez now.
[08:28:05] So that might become a problem. We've seen Mars get slaughtered by that hero in games before.
[08:28:12] So that is the potential drawback.
[08:28:16] And Ken is good against Mars, just because you have just to get movement to keep Dr. Nespierre, you also laying really well against him.
[08:28:22] You have good pressure and then you don't really get stopped in your first 10 minutes.
[08:28:26] And that's kind of the big thing for Ken, like, trying to shut him down and stop his farm.
[08:28:29] Don't allow him to go Vlad's desu or Battlefield, whatever the goal he was to go for.
[08:28:34] And now we're like, they decide what's happening with the tiny of the trying to flex.
[08:28:38] They're here on 4 to mid, if so, then they are going to have to reveal a carry and a 5 position here.
[08:28:43] It's probably just, I would prefer if the tiny is just before and like you said, you keep the, like, in
[08:28:48] Ignore Flex at least semi-open. Like, when a tiny lanes with a Ignore,
[08:28:52] or Gangs for a Ignore if it's mid, I think either way you're pretty happy with that.
[08:28:55] So, jamming in your humour here here with the 5. I think we'll make a lot sense.
[08:28:59] I'm surprised, like us aren't the Viper's, the person of Iper's a strange choice.
[08:29:06] The attacks be slow, the break, pretty much the citing, the Viper's just a hard
[08:29:13] counter, so really.
[08:29:14] But maybe he was looking at more a timing-based sense, right?
[08:29:18] Yandex was a little bit so in the last game, they had to get momentum, but stopped doing
[08:29:21] stuff.
[08:29:22] However, whether you type of heroes, they can look at the motion at the 19 minimum before it
[08:29:26] They can take the license, they can make the move that they open for Ivan.
[08:29:30] I mean, they can take the early lead.
[08:29:32] Yeah, that's okay.
[08:29:33] We can't even on the load come out.
[08:29:34] You fear at it because they don't feel comfortable leaving the restaurant to pull.
[08:29:39] I mean, these guys have like some Omega value on like, okay, this is your account of this guy.
[08:29:43] So if we pick him, we can take them together.
[08:29:45] Now they can take it to like counter us.
[08:29:47] They do love those names.
[08:29:48] Yeah.
[08:29:49] I mean, I would say like, cause the absolute like playing Ursa Interviper isn't super easy.
[08:29:53] But I guess they can also play with the idea of, okay, you know,
[08:29:56] You go on if you are, so if you get some toss bag, you can play on like Enigma stays out.
[08:29:59] I jump in when Viper shows himself. I just black hole him and you clap him out of the game.
[08:30:04] I mean, you had to play on the trust of your teammates, right?
[08:30:06] That's intense.
[08:30:07] Enigma, this is a great, this is not a right game.
[08:30:10] It's a first game defense, what's in TA?
[08:30:14] It's a very good TA game, yeah. Very, very good.
[08:30:17] Especially if you can shut down this underlord in lane, like you look at heroic heroes, Enigma quite
[08:30:23] farming very bad for behind.
[08:30:24] Erase a quite farming bad from behind.
[08:30:26] Underwood, same boat.
[08:30:26] So heroic, they need to do pretty well.
[08:30:29] And these lanes, or suddenly you have key traps everywhere.
[08:30:32] You have Viper with bots.
[08:30:33] You've got more teamfight like there's a lot of threat.
[08:30:35] And I think playing from behind against Sox is terrifying,
[08:30:38] because that guy is the king of catch.
[08:30:40] So heroic, I think they've already put themselves
[08:30:43] in a bit of a sticky situation.
[08:30:44] I am not super crazy about the heroes.
[08:30:46] So I feel they need to solve their things a little bit.
[08:30:49] It's a little bit about the vision for a video.
[08:30:50] That's like when it was mentioning.
[08:30:51] put wink, breaking open to the game, you will just give life to everyone.
[08:30:55] Like Mars and Viper, they can feel clunky in the wrong hands, but because of the TN
[08:30:59] hood wing, they should always and theory have a good game, right?
[08:31:02] It's always going to be the, the finally here we get the hero for her right now.
[08:31:05] So even though there's farm intensiveness on their heroes, if they do get their items based
[08:31:09] on, yeah, it's not a find that pressure, they don't really care.
[08:31:12] Like they can't just walk in, there'll be a crimson on the Lord, there's going to be,
[08:31:16] someone's going to be dying short, but in the rest of them will, will be doing great.
[08:31:19] I didn't know it just after Black OTA, but technically it should be over if there's one more jump with that.
[08:31:25] Yeah, I mean the upside is I think Underlord is good against Mars, just in general,
[08:31:29] like you have Pike, you have Gigatankiness against the hero that wants to win the fight quickly,
[08:31:32] off of like the arena he hasn't buy Oros himself.
[08:31:35] So you've got Oros, there's no Oros advantage right now, which in specific team fights can definitely be a thing like Ursut.
[08:31:40] He will not man fight the Viper, but you can like he also, you can play out jumps.
[08:31:44] He can also play out Pike and Citing, and they can take things a little bit.
[08:31:47] things a little bit. So they have some tools like it's not completely black and white.
[08:31:50] I do think that some of these mashups can go, they can definitely go south.
[08:31:56] How much pacing does the unit really have where, what stops the Beastmaster coming in
[08:32:01] at a later, like for heroic, right, on the last pick?
[08:32:03] I'm sure there's a Viper, he's kind of tanky against it, but if you're trying to stop
[08:32:08] TA from being the main character of the game, why not give time on the hero that will
[08:32:12] just free from in the mid lane, chill, have his own game, he can buy sheathers down the
[08:32:15] He's going to buy BKB to no care about mods. I'm not sure if it does free farm. I think there's a world of
[08:32:20] hyper connection. There's one of the heroes that can actually be a beast master. Because you can,
[08:32:25] like, you can order a lot of the boars and then you can get spit as well. So if you ever
[08:32:31] trust a man up on you, just put spit on the ground. So he sort of has to keep playing the agger,
[08:32:34] pulling game in the last hit with boars. Maybe a really proficient beast master would
[08:32:37] tile on can. You can just play at the last hit game. That is very possible. I've never played this
[08:32:41] play this lane to the honest in recent history, so I'm not harm is not sure.
[08:32:46] Yeah, I don't fully know yet where heroic will take this.
[08:32:48] I just want to say that I like TA against Ursula quite a lot.
[08:32:51] I think like having any type of like roach control, I think first of all is super nice
[08:32:55] against the hero.
[08:32:56] I think she also gives you like the permanent stable physical like high damage or
[08:33:00] outlet in mid game and the nigma right now, he's probably not the off-laner.
[08:33:03] It nigma does not enjoy TA.
[08:33:05] Like maybe if you lean against her with a tiny okay fine, you can like swing that match up,
[08:33:09] but later if you don't black hole this hero,
[08:33:11] She will destroy you within that 2 hits.
[08:33:13] Yeah, she just eats you alive.
[08:33:15] So, and it's also very hard to black hole against the tier.
[08:33:17] Because there's traps everywhere so they see you.
[08:33:19] And so you're trying to play up this one-link jump against the hero.
[08:33:22] You can also just blink away at any time.
[08:33:24] It's pike hits.
[08:33:25] Like, it's very, very obnoxious in the mid-game.
[08:33:28] Not to mention, in my team,
[08:33:29] you've got this hoodwinks sneaking around in the trees.
[08:33:30] You've got to arena that kills trees.
[08:33:32] Like, it is not an easy game to play for this black hole build
[08:33:34] that we've seen in the past,
[08:33:36] which was a big reason why he had so much impact in the 5-in-a-moo.
[08:33:39] I haven't just intrigued to know who I was gonna do, right?
[08:33:41] Let's talk about a nickname of being five or mid,
[08:33:44] tiny being four or mid, right?
[08:33:46] There's still flexibility, but if one player steps up and goes,
[08:33:49] this is my game, this is my hero.
[08:33:51] They can't technically still move here
[08:33:52] as in a direction to do that.
[08:33:54] Yeah, that's gotta, you know, 23-pick of time.
[08:33:58] Just try and make sure that here gets all the farm to you requires.
[08:34:03] That's pretty much it.
[08:34:03] Just have a good time to you, you know, I like this on me a lot.
[08:34:07] I think out of like the Mealy Fives,
[08:34:08] you had left, especially with like clock taken out.
[08:34:10] I think this makes their team fight quite strong.
[08:34:13] Like running into Tomb for these heroes is not easy.
[08:34:15] Also, if you're Earthset, you don't really
[08:34:17] want to go clap a Tombstone, like the middle of the team.
[08:34:19] If I went, there's a random Marcerry.
[08:34:21] Now, you're getting Viper-Olta, there's TA traps.
[08:34:23] It also helps them with Rose, which both TA and Earthset
[08:34:25] have really rely on.
[08:34:27] I think Yandex have some very good cooking here
[08:34:30] on the last two picks.
[08:34:31] I mean, even just Tombstone saves.
[08:34:33] If the game does become a nickname, where vision isn't
[08:34:36] anything useless by yandex and the struggling undone will be able to try and punish that right you get some
[08:34:41] cost for engine charment you get a good tunestone you can just save from a good job you don't need the
[08:34:45] win wikers anymore
[08:34:47] but i'm in it 10 for a work to decide where they're gonna go i'm trying to think of a
[08:34:50] pick that salvage this
[08:34:53] uh...
[08:34:54] and so it's five or mid that they can take right like the nigma will either go made against
[08:34:58] this life of a pick a five
[08:35:01] Yeah, I mean, I think the mid is just like hyper all in.
[08:35:05] I don't know, maybe it's good.
[08:35:07] That's not something I fully understand of I'm totally honest.
[08:35:10] I feel like picking a new mid is good, but the issue is it's a Viper.
[08:35:15] And Puck is already banned, which is one of the best ones.
[08:35:17] Sniper's banned.
[08:35:18] So a lot of the dudes that you would want are gone.
[08:35:20] I don't know what you're picking.
[08:35:22] I think if you're looking for a range mid, it's Lina.
[08:35:25] And you would have to suck it up that you play against Mars.
[08:35:27] I don't love it for the draft.
[08:35:30] So that maybe they're looking at a file.
[08:35:32] It isn't being a mid-wow.
[08:35:34] This.
[08:35:35] Okay.
[08:35:36] I mean, all the honest, I think heroic is...
[08:35:39] Well, mega-outropped it.
[08:35:40] I think it's the biggest outropped at the night.
[08:35:42] Um, I mean, either best of five.
[08:35:44] I think the difference maker for me is if Tylen can surprise me on an eggma.
[08:35:48] How do you actually win this land?
[08:35:50] Does it actually be fiper?
[08:35:51] And then suddenly it changes the dynamic.
[08:35:53] They're actually able to make some space so they can get to the pipe
[08:35:55] or second get the farm because Viper from behind is garbage.
[08:35:58] is garbage. This hero is absolutely trash when he's not in an even-or-a-head position, so
[08:36:03] plowing needs to be the difference to make it for me, because I apart from him, I think it's
[08:36:07] rib. The thing is, though, in the mid game, right, even the coins trying to paint about
[08:36:11] very bad picture. They do have multiple ways of trying to stop the TA, and this can become a
[08:36:16] game where it's just TA, and everyone's trying to put on the end, that's the boss on how to get
[08:36:20] the damage through. They've got a bissils in the earth, so they've got all the orders from the,
[08:36:24] The, what's the called the, the underlocked with the achievers and the crimson bane and a nigga and tiny multiple ways
[08:36:30] It's like to me it's like in the mid to late game who have all the tools just to be obnoxious
[08:36:34] It's just a matter of like just dealing with the
[08:36:38] Roachant that's gonna go away and that's potentially the mentor that should go their way and the only fights that
[08:36:42] You know, it can be devastating based on the lanes at the end of time. Yeah, I'm up. It's a price about the bane to be honest
[08:36:47] I feel like I hate playing this hero into a tier like later if this guy buys our shard
[08:36:50] He's instigating my grip while not even being on my screen.
[08:36:54] I think also overall, to me, it comes a lot down to the tie-long,
[08:36:57] if they all look for how much they can do.
[08:36:58] I agree with Quinn, maybe not to the same extent.
[08:37:01] I do prefer Yannick's drive, but I think you're
[08:37:04] really keep showing us a very special,
[08:37:05] unlike the heroes that they play.
[08:37:06] And I think if the other core collect,
[08:37:08] if there's one Ava tossback on mid lane,
[08:37:10] like Viper's lane could maybe end.
[08:37:12] You have to warts for him, you need humanity to follow him,
[08:37:16] and keep just keep tabs of the little stone man running around,
[08:37:19] That could be spicy.
[08:37:21] Tyler went drum link into BKV,
[08:37:23] the last time it faded in business,
[08:37:24] so there wasn't any weight or attack.
[08:37:26] There was nothing too crazy.
[08:37:27] It was just a tradition or an argument from the mid league.
[08:37:30] I would be happy to be proven wrong,
[08:37:31] and if anyone's gonna be wrong.
[08:37:33] It's fine.
[08:37:34] I would be very pleased.
[08:37:35] You were proven, and game 1 to be fair.
[08:37:38] I think I was proven correct.
[08:37:40] That's good.
[08:37:41] Look, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, right now.
[08:37:44] Jack that's alright, uh, well, make them fight it out later,
[08:37:46] but right now, people are entrusted in the outcome
[08:37:48] of your fight here, they're more interested in the outcome of what he's going to be
[08:37:52] game number two in a best of five for heroic and Yandex.
[08:38:13] There's such a thing as too much flex did heroic get a little lost in the sauce here when it comes to the draft for game to agree
[08:38:23] Maybe maybe a little bit too much cooking here
[08:38:27] They are doing this at Nigma flex that they have done before but they didn't do it with title
[08:38:34] This was only a whisper mid thing that they were trying to abuse
[08:38:37] It's a very difficult field to execute mid.
[08:38:41] You have to be very professional to hero, CS Superwell, micro the idle on Superwell, and gain
[08:38:47] a big lane advantage that way to make the hero work, and then maybe this lineup can
[08:38:50] come together off of an insane 5-man ball.
[08:38:54] They have crazy 5-man ball potential in a rush with the tiny tossback, but I think Yandex
[08:38:59] have pretty much everything you want in a lineup.
[08:39:02] They have Laney, they have Team Fight, they have Jump Stun, they have Sustain, they have
[08:39:06] or builders, then they have a rose killer in this TA, they have an H and clearing.
[08:39:10] So, it's going to be a tough draft to beat no matter what.
[08:39:13] Broker, I have to execute really cleanly here.
[08:39:18] We're already seeing heroic trying to get the small advantages, stacking and mid, placing themselves
[08:39:23] just on the outside of the tower range to see when the N next drop of mid-worn.
[08:39:31] N next are not going to do so, goes for a late smoke.
[08:39:33] For Oak, we'll do the same now getting a ward on the other side of the river so that the other core.
[08:39:37] Now knows that the ward has been placed, and considering the vision that they had earlier, probably on the right-hand side, that we'll see if they find it.
[08:39:48] Breaking on Yuma, but him being on the low ground, not gonna walk into Malacan's Soxa.
[08:39:55] Sure, somebody gets picked off your wrist, and this is... both these seems effectively
[08:40:04] rope-smet or smoke wrapped each other and found nothing.
[08:40:10] That's wild.
[08:40:11] If no one dies here out of this, this is like one of the craziest pre-roon sequences
[08:40:15] that yields nothing.
[08:40:16] I've seen it a long time.
[08:40:18] Well, I didn't yield absolute nothing.
[08:40:20] The end eggs got three bounty runes, and as Horo kept yet to claim, the one that's still sitting in the top river.
[08:40:26] So it's just chillin'.
[08:40:28] Nobody wants it, sad bounty rune.
[08:40:31] They're still kind of flirting with each other out here.
[08:40:38] Still not the happy, they're gonna start trialing again.
[08:40:41] Horo is really trying to get these roe-ishen in against the work for them.
[08:40:44] Trialing into undying.
[08:40:47] the
[08:40:53] does not work out
[08:40:55] the set up bill of sleepwalk night there into tossback like there's some serious repositioning going on your trade to spearback the old as he's running forward looking for a tossback on something finally
[08:41:08] will commit no game never mind.
[08:41:11] He canceled almost went through the gate
[08:41:13] and he's not going to shake her out.
[08:41:16] And he shouldn't.
[08:41:17] If he goes top this,
[08:41:18] under order gets a hundred percent zone in the two of you.
[08:41:22] It's a boot to a dime.
[08:41:23] He will just decame twice chasing all over.
[08:41:26] He's needed force to keep you out if he wants to commit
[08:41:28] the boy grenade for the killed threat.
[08:41:30] I don't think some toss back there
[08:41:32] bottom is enough to keep this a dime here
[08:41:34] for what you would gain top right now.
[08:41:36] which is just instantaneously in victory.
[08:41:39] So, if I'm balladier, I just instigate and I say,
[08:41:42] get whatever the hell you can't model.
[08:41:44] I don't care about the same anyway.
[08:41:45] It's a bar, so I mean, they're just your stunners in the game.
[08:41:48] They don't need some crazy good start here.
[08:41:50] Yeah, fair.
[08:41:51] And finally, he does make his way through and start attacking Whisper
[08:41:55] and we'll see what the response is from heroic.
[08:41:57] Meanwhile, it's like,
[08:41:58] Jared Junior is off to a good start in mid lane 12 and two compared to four
[08:42:02] And three of Tylong, Tylong, who was only played it two matches of Made and Make My Prior to this.
[08:42:08] This is during the, I believe, PGL, Velocchio qualifiers and went 50-50 with it.
[08:42:14] So, look at a break that Ty one way or another.
[08:42:18] It's a big question mark on this game, but the biggest is Will Tylong perform on this year.
[08:42:24] Should win the lane over time with level two and three other ones.
[08:42:27] I don't think there's anything about it.
[08:42:29] Well, Rev. Maybe he can just push the lane out with another toxin and go farm jungle.
[08:42:34] So, how effective will these idolans be?
[08:42:37] We'll have to see. There's a nice little courier site.
[08:42:39] Finding it in something dog here.
[08:42:42] I almost feel heroic, tried to dodge.
[08:42:45] Or they start to try lane just to dodge this tiny, underlordverse, a dine, which is about as bad as it sounds.
[08:42:53] Yeah, yeah, he's one of the easiest lanes for a nine to play the history of a nine.
[08:43:00] It's beer back on KJ. Good to damage nothing serious though.
[08:43:04] Tell you what the L'Aquare has been running, stuff goes around and he will finally claim the Courier kill.
[08:43:10] He's straight up did full on loops trying to search for this Courier.
[08:43:15] L'Aquare wasn't as microing it pretty recently, but finally messed up.
[08:43:18] The L'Aquare gets the disruption he was looking for.
[08:43:23] Get in work up done up here for sure double courage tonight. That's money in the bank, especially against the dying
[08:43:28] You're never gonna play the lane straight up against any way
[08:43:32] Still a little concerned for real in terms of what now I do my people are doing this game outside the lane phase two
[08:43:38] He has very good targets to
[08:43:41] flesh-golem on to drop the tombstone
[08:43:44] Or so needs to to carry a heavy load here in the team fights
[08:43:49] dealing with tombstone, maybe bringing this guy down
[08:43:53] Midlane is starting to swing a little bit
[08:43:55] Back towards something in my hair
[08:43:58] It's not behind on C.S. but he should start racking up some more denies
[08:44:03] You can't really just shove this out with another toxin and not walk up if you're a junior
[08:44:07] Let's just free denies for the idol on on you and
[08:44:11] It's time long secure is more and more of an advantage
[08:44:13] Oh, AJ, you should make it over that cliff area still the brain sap and one charges here. He'll live a little bit longer
[08:44:20] But finally, it does go down and there's your first blood, man.
[08:44:25] So much action early on chasing around four kills that are never happening.
[08:44:29] Finally, we get first blood.
[08:44:31] Some nice moves from KJ.
[08:44:34] Ultimately, cannot save him.
[08:44:36] There's a fancy gut at least.
[08:44:39] What?
[08:44:40] What do you do, is Viper in this mid-match-up, by the way?
[08:44:44] Like now that the lane is fully in control for the big amount, what do you just just take
[08:44:50] creeps, just jell, go jungle.
[08:44:52] I think level five, you can't contest idle ons.
[08:44:55] You probably can't contest level two ons.
[08:44:57] They're micro-dwell, these you definitely cannot contest.
[08:45:01] You can't shove the wave with other talks
[08:45:03] and all the creeps get the nides.
[08:45:04] You can't just have to go jungle,
[08:45:05] unless the link gets pushed into you
[08:45:06] and then you can come from under the tower,
[08:45:09] which real prompt, tie a lung, potentially just
[08:45:13] start pushing this in and hitting the tower.
[08:45:15] Trying to make the Viper come back,
[08:45:17] I mean you potentially gave him a kill with the Black Hole timing.
[08:45:20] Let's come to the game, those two are clean.
[08:45:22] Nightmare nice double bushwack.
[08:45:25] Aavalanche on Malik, though, was still beasting serious damage.
[08:45:29] Are they able to commit? With a spear back, a lot of their damage is up to the window now,
[08:45:33] with the Earth's separated from the two blood grenade, a slow down to two supports,
[08:45:36] and Malik and Soxa will manage to get away from the three and hand gank.
[08:45:42] Meanwhile.
[08:45:44] What ever this is is going on.
[08:45:47] Some more courier killings, some creep pull in,
[08:45:49] with Bertrand to do anything.
[08:45:51] Doesn't even get the whole weight that.
[08:45:53] That was just mesxcuted.
[08:45:54] At least gets half of it.
[08:45:56] Six minutes of power runs also coming,
[08:45:58] so a ballad you're just going to stay around here.
[08:46:01] Try and help secure this a little bit.
[08:46:04] Well, can't secure it again.
[08:46:06] Tidalons and Tylen,
[08:46:07] guesses correctly for the 50-50.
[08:46:09] So now he's got Iolons and a shield room.
[08:46:12] shield room, he also has drums done, so these idolons are a big threat, mid tower already
[08:46:18] at half HP.
[08:46:19] It doesn't keep the catapult blown, though.
[08:46:22] Yeah, that was curious.
[08:46:24] Didn't have the full lane control board, so that's a big win for Chirajuner.
[08:46:28] This drum timing is crazy strong.
[08:46:31] I already think you really have to respect idol on DPS.
[08:46:36] It's fine, because both supports are looking at their mid, like I want to play through
[08:46:40] this guy.
[08:46:41] like a hit or hood wink undying or like let's play around the Viper, but the Viper is matched up against an enigma who heroic are also down the play around
[08:46:52] JJ make move though. He's
[08:46:54] Soak it for Wist of Shrine
[08:46:56] Real aggressive move. It's gonna be an attempted steal on both sides. KJ's gonna give up on his
[08:47:02] Highlong. He's gonna come through the gate or excuse me to TP on it a tier two, but it is gonna be taken here
[08:47:08] or maybe to get a kill off from a melody,
[08:47:10] maybe to get a kill on Watson as well,
[08:47:11] for you, he has a chance here,
[08:47:13] but a toss back and so an avalanche of Watson,
[08:47:16] though because of the undying tombstones,
[08:47:18] slowing down the innings of so much,
[08:47:20] and Ignat just hasn't been able to be close
[08:47:22] and upper a black hole at anything.
[08:47:24] Ooh, whispers almost dies now that I'm there back.
[08:47:27] They take it off now, it's black hole time.
[08:47:29] They'll catch the two of them,
[08:47:30] and it attempts from valid to save Watson,
[08:47:33] each of them gives an extra kill over to heroic.
[08:47:37] Now is now these finest sequence.
[08:47:39] Seaseless durs, maybe work it against him a little bit there.
[08:47:43] See, the response to instant feed on the double black hole instead of just a single very
[08:47:48] clutch T-P from KJ.
[08:47:49] That sequence does not go all wrongs when Mr. Bain is there for that last night there.
[08:47:54] Tombstone really bothering Ty Long on the chase down, but they do get the black hole connection
[08:47:59] on the biggest part in this game with EA.
[08:48:01] STP's got in and with Whisper already dead from Chira Jr. showing up at the
[08:48:06] the bipers strike and now the catch on the tie-long.
[08:48:08] This is chance for Yandex to strike back here.
[08:48:11] Hold more of this net worth into their favor
[08:48:13] after a bit of a blunder and sure enough.
[08:48:15] Holding their net worth lead off
[08:48:17] of the successful biper rotation.
[08:48:20] They're just a little too far up on that tree line.
[08:48:22] I think the idea from her oath of re-killing this TA
[08:48:26] when she comes back in was odd point.
[08:48:30] Yandex had the better eat.
[08:48:32] They pre-rotate heroes up there are absolutely ready
[08:48:34] for that move.
[08:48:35] protect wants and make sure he can get back in his lane.
[08:48:39] Nice counterplay from them.
[08:48:42] They'll kind of restabilize the lane.
[08:48:44] Now they have the boots to travel on the fiper.
[08:48:46] It's pretty big for a cheer to your end.
[08:48:48] Just for their overall map control, this fiper does not want to be stuck in a lane against
[08:48:53] that Nigma.
[08:48:54] He rather join fights or keep the endow engagements that the Nigma joins and kind of counterkill him.
[08:48:59] So I like the boots to travel here.
[08:49:01] the TAs farming well. You're gonna lose his mid tower no matter what. Not much you could do here. Maybe get to the denial.
[08:49:10] Certainly on the table here. Next you're kill on. Hey, Jane, what else would be nice?
[08:49:17] Well, I'll under the tower though, with one eye on he secures it.
[08:49:22] That might kind of be worth a.
[08:49:24] the beta because I think that power is almost guaranteed denied unless you rotate supports, but yeah, but he is
[08:49:32] giving away a decent amount of XP off of these random kills. So socks I haven't himself a very good game here.
[08:49:38] I've pushed him to six and a half. They got both wisdom shrines.
[08:49:41] Heroic supports are definitely going to be gimped. It's time for situation.
[08:49:48] I don't already sound pretty bad with one of those supports being a bane.
[08:49:54] Some rough support to have the weight on the grip.
[08:49:59] All the time you get in early opportunity to use grip around that 10-minute marker even
[08:50:05] earlier if you can get a fast 6-inch earlier.
[08:50:07] You get the weight.
[08:50:08] You don't get that kill and you just lose even more kill opportunity, more XP.
[08:50:12] Kind of snowball from there.
[08:50:14] I have to make up for it in the teamfighting here.
[08:50:18] I'm not the feet away too many eye to lawns but another tower to be taken.
[08:50:23] to be taken, pushing it to Watson's lane once and though is very far, over 5k network
[08:50:30] already, so he's gonna have a very fast escalator.
[08:50:34] Do you hear the other tower last hit though?
[08:50:37] Both of them go into the enigma, you're that's pretty nice.
[08:50:40] As there's the chase down.
[08:50:41] Finally, get the nightmare up the high ground, pull back down, blind to push,
[08:50:44] where KJ not to get, though, with the black hole being used on Malacum,
[08:50:47] The juncture shot, JJ, almost died.
[08:50:50] 15 HP, but he's here alive.
[08:50:53] And now you're a junior toss back in, I can't believe he actually died.
[08:50:57] He stuck around.
[08:50:58] Either way, it was a fantastic fight for a rook.
[08:51:01] They get two core kills.
[08:51:02] They get a tombstone kill as well.
[08:51:04] And Nigma is beginning to show up.
[08:51:08] But they're just going all in on Horrors.
[08:51:10] That Nigma is thinking about Horrors.
[08:51:12] Underworld's gonna kill Horrors.
[08:51:13] It killed himself off of the corrosive skin.
[08:51:15] I chucked him up later.
[08:51:16] So he goes out valiantly, not capped and goes down with the ship here. Probably one of the trip to base anyway
[08:51:24] Nice black hole, though. You'll take these on any cores in this game. It's just you can have that cool down running for your ex kill
[08:51:32] Is there is there is there such a thing as too many or is there?
[08:51:40] No, no, no, thanks all. I mean, when is that actually been a thing?
[08:51:45] it does put a lot of weight on you was shoulders here to carry the GPS in the fights.
[08:51:52] Especially if the index gets to some BKBs or a type of their own, you're very
[08:51:57] magic damage oriented between underlord and they might have to hit your
[08:52:01] opponent.
[08:52:02] The more orange you have, the better team fight you have, the better team fight you have,
[08:52:06] the better objective taking you have, you get that the objectives, I eroshawn,
[08:52:10] you get the extra life for you, you know.
[08:52:13] And at that point, your aura is just stacking on stack, you know?
[08:52:17] The aura's already making the other aura's more efficient, now you're getting an actual
[08:52:20] life on your carry.
[08:52:22] For those of the aura's to play through.
[08:52:24] It's a bearing trying to get away from the Viper, not quite fast enough.
[08:52:29] Sharp Shooter does hit him up from across the screen.
[08:52:32] Nobody wants to fight into this Viper, though.
[08:52:34] They're just going to make sure they make them get out, but nobody else rotating from
[08:52:38] heroic.
[08:52:39] Everybody else just down to farm.
[08:52:40] I'm kind of want to see the thing that go blinked each of your ear.
[08:52:48] Maybe you can do some of your like slightly greedy rock don't even build for a cool down
[08:52:51] just like that.
[08:52:52] And you will need to have the black hole presence in this game.
[08:52:56] There's no cancel to it here.
[08:52:58] So it's another factor of the road to try and scale off of and you play off the toss
[08:53:01] backs into the black hole coming nasty combo too.
[08:53:05] Because I think you are worried about scale in this game as a road.
[08:53:08] I think at all, Yandex cores get five slotted in this game, it's a tough line up to be.
[08:53:15] They'll just scale so well.
[08:53:18] And there's only so much damage this Earth can do.
[08:53:21] You're playing in the Viper with all the slows in the break here.
[08:53:25] Playing at TA, you have to get through a fraction.
[08:53:28] The bars can spear you away, you can drop it, arena.
[08:53:38] to
[08:53:43] see you get to roast first in
[08:53:45] skintu both teams would be very happy to just start doing her
[08:53:48] workshops make her all should be a little faster to with the or buildups
[08:53:52] how quickly or so does it but at the end it's going to fight around middle
[08:53:56] with your one the river area they will absolutely just go in the pit on dine
[08:54:00] to a
[08:54:02] I feel like with the look-and-the-sees or atyemings, like where the pipe is going to come in for whisper, they should be able to do it on that 15 or 20-minute marker, where Roshawn's playing in the top pit.
[08:54:16] Feels like that should be very attainable for her on.
[08:54:21] I think that's when they will have to do it too.
[08:54:24] There's no way you don't do it in that interval and you let it swing by ball
[08:54:28] Sure, and I think you will lock it in
[08:54:32] Quick smoke play through the gate
[08:54:36] Couple scans go off. This is her old looking for Watson on this top ancient camp
[08:54:42] You might end up running into him here does not have blink yet
[08:54:47] Flying out on the courier as this gate is coming in all you might have had to go there
[08:54:54] Watson with the blank dagger in his backpack. You can actually swap it in. Okay, he swaps it in now and it is available. That was a close
[08:55:01] You know okay, that was a long five second timer or whatever it is from career delivery
[08:55:11] He's lucky that got patched in you know. Yeah, seriously. We've got on cooldown on one of the older patches
[08:55:18] No harm no foul dodges that canc
[08:55:21] There's some KJ annoyance and then
[08:55:24] Now, it's the end-bixing turn to try and go for a smoking through the gates and this one will likely latch
[08:55:31] is a gun on in the field. We does not have a blink of an eye or so. That's gonna be your first death of charge. We're Watson.
[08:55:40] Nice, we'll pick up for him. Maybe, can you even threaten this roach?
[08:55:46] Just bring some attention to right now. Get some traps around the area. If you can control some
[08:55:49] with a vision. We could dissuade heroes from going forward super early here because that pipe is done.
[08:55:58] You have your boots of bearing, you have your pipe vanguard, you have your Ursa battlefield,
[08:56:02] the blinks are coming out for the Ursa and the enigma shortly here so that's kind of everything
[08:56:08] you need to force that early, Roshan. Okay, so the enigma commits to the blink dagger. Do you think
[08:56:15] I think there's any world where Watson buys the shard as soon as possible.
[08:56:22] Just because if you know you're going to be playing around objectives, you're going
[08:56:25] to be playing over top-row Sean Pit, you're going to be playing over Tormentor.
[08:56:29] These traps can be really powerful, especially if they have the silence.
[08:56:34] I think you really get it earlier.
[08:56:37] Well, what's he's going to try and get it off?
[08:56:39] I mean, you can't really get it off, Tormentor.
[08:56:41] There's just no way.
[08:56:42] I guess I'm asking for the dragon lands like to have it right now, you know?
[08:56:49] If you're gonna go fight this roach, I think you buy it. If they are just gonna conced it and not then
[08:56:55] Because this thing can stop black hole, it could also stop grip.
[08:56:58] So it doesn't a lot of value in this game.
[08:57:00] It's immediately gonna break and they got the jump by the wants and lots and lots and big trouble, holy crap!
[08:57:04] Black hole, beans grip, everything they have to kill Watson and they certainly have it.
[08:57:09] What even happened in a black hole?
[08:57:12] I mean, I mean, it's your canceling.
[08:57:16] It must have been a bushwreck, came through, I don't know, I don't know.
[08:57:19] With the grip dock canceled instantly too.
[08:57:22] Like, I just threw out all the bolts, and then they just...
[08:57:25] Dark instant canceling all of them.
[08:57:27] I don't know if there was a...
[08:57:28] I didn't see a ravage go off from me.
[08:57:31] The crot neutrals, yeah.
[08:57:32] Invite them.
[08:57:34] I gotta wait, nice move from them.
[08:57:36] put it on his TA straight into the pit.
[08:57:43] I did curve from looking at him.
[08:57:46] Yeah, that's it.
[08:57:48] Hey, you just eat away.
[08:57:50] They got it.
[08:57:51] They got the roach and now KJ is trying to set up some pick-offs here.
[08:57:54] But the travel TPN for the Viper and KJ says,
[08:57:58] no, no, no, you want to.
[08:57:59] Don't jump, brother.
[08:58:00] Don't jump.
[08:58:01] It's not safe.
[08:58:02] of
[08:58:07] this is a hard part of the map for the
[08:58:10] world to find any sort of action
[08:58:12] and it's not going to be an area they are likely to have vision of anage and the way this map swings a lot of times
[08:58:15] if the TA is down here there could be traps if they do find something it's
[08:58:20] it's a dark jungle for the DNA met a connector the DNA wants to keep player on mid or top
[08:58:25] like you can get the underworld in down here but
[08:58:29] If I'm heroic, I'm staying out of this bottom quarter.
[08:58:32] I'm looking around mid and I'm looking around top.
[08:58:36] Which might also prompt the index to try and take the fight in those areas
[08:58:40] if they feel they're very strong with the Viper Ags plus the T8 NEP Earth.
[08:58:46] T8 is still very strong, especially when black holes won't cool down.
[08:58:49] A lot of this game could revolve around this black hole cool down when it's down.
[08:58:52] The index would try and look for more stuff when it's up.
[08:58:55] Her role will try and look for more.
[08:58:59] there's a crimson
[08:59:05] they're stronger now they'll
[08:59:07] type crimson ages
[08:59:09] and almost completed the tiny blank somehow the
[08:59:13] bean got a link before the tiny
[08:59:17] respect respect dog
[08:59:21] yeah that's something he goes to show how much the
[08:59:27] show how much the O has been running around not really accomplishing like that much. Or at least, you know, hard impact. Maybe he's getting good information out and stuff like that, but there have been a lot of times where you just kind of run it around.
[08:59:42] He's a little nine though, so there's the full combo, man.
[08:59:49] All right, well time to do Tormentor with this ages, very unlikely the Yandex is gonna fight you for it.
[08:59:55] They do now have the Shard on Lonson. He stuck to the timing Dragonlands first, Shard afterwards.
[09:00:01] This is a life full of catch by the Baying, nighttime vision.
[09:00:05] Absolutely no contest on this tournament or no.
[09:00:08] Well, I guess the Cecil's Durser instantly up, but
[09:00:13] The TPN from Tylong eat instantly blanks out
[09:00:16] Dodging the spear there, Malak, a little off from the timing there wasn't sure how long
[09:00:20] That TPP was channeling at the time. Watson tried to finish up the tower here. He's going to be tossed back.
[09:00:24] No, Tylong even got hit by the Ulls there from Malak. Now the spear trying to catch you.
[09:00:29] But you've already been erased and with a beam strip on the other side. Watson once again
[09:00:34] It seems simple for heroic, they only have to focus on one hero, and then it's just all
[09:00:39] winning on Watson's Templar assassin that everything else from their falls.
[09:00:45] If the Viper isn't the first one to contact for Yandex, their damage deals are just getting
[09:00:49] run over, and the Viper's not dealing enough DPS to sway this fight.
[09:00:53] That was a really nice blink out when they didn't otherwise, that fight becomes a disaster,
[09:00:57] and beautiful catchers from Kager, he's taking this game, who gets the undying catch top,
[09:01:03] He goes mid, gets a flank on that fight, sleeps the food wink while she's channelling
[09:01:07] out, so no old goes off from her, and then grips his TA, full duration.
[09:01:12] Then he goes back top, gets another pick up, I think that basically four kills set up
[09:01:17] on this brown boots blinked being in the last minute, across two lanes, just perfect swinging
[09:01:23] across this map.
[09:01:27] This Bane has a lot of the rep behind him because of the Underlord Global Presence too, so I
[09:01:33] like how heroic are playing this map right now. I think they're out playing the index
[09:01:37] across the map, even though the index are farming more efficiently. A lot's going to come
[09:01:42] down to this next Rochon. So I'm going to experience a minute here, but that second
[09:01:48] ages with the enter is huge for both these teams. So you've got to kind of gear up some
[09:01:53] after Troll to be in position of contest said.
[09:01:56] Mm-hmm.
[09:02:00] Uma B.K.B. done as his ages about to expire also
[09:02:04] got a easy tormentor for the enough that that
[09:02:07] charred matters too much but still some extra
[09:02:10] gold for the squad heroic now up to K.
[09:02:15] There's a zinn on some big items.
[09:02:17] There they had the B.K.B. on the air so they're
[09:02:19] going to have the B.K.B. on the enigma so that's
[09:02:20] Let's create the link became black hole, but they're able to hear the next minute or so.
[09:02:27] That's a problem for Yandex.
[09:02:29] If they can land black hole on TA, everybody,
[09:02:33] do you have enough damage in this portion of the game to overcome that?
[09:02:38] Doesn't seem like it.
[09:02:40] She means you're going to have to find a way to scale harder.
[09:02:43] Not the grad.
[09:02:45] Junior is going to be here this time around but the rest of the team is pretty far away and
[09:02:50] they're just going to be a two-man black hole. The rest of this squad is too far out. They're
[09:02:53] not going to be here in time to punish this. It's going to be too far as dead. Yet again,
[09:02:59] Yandex finding absolutely no purchase in this game. They're going to help maneuvered.
[09:03:04] Out maneuvered hard. They're supposed to be the ones with the extra vision and control from the
[09:03:08] CA. Fishing lanes getting the traps out. And instead it is, it has been this bane with an early
[09:03:14] jump by the way. KJ just running around killing all these traps down off of these kills. He has set up so much for this heroic squad in this game.
[09:03:23] He is empty for you this game so far.
[09:03:25] 14. So that's all takes does you in a nasty amount of kill setup.
[09:03:31] the
[09:03:34] B. K. B's
[09:03:36] raining for heroic one for you,
[09:03:39] ma, one for Thailand,
[09:03:42] and whisper is going to
[09:03:44] complete an ags here pretty soon.
[09:03:46] So this combination of force
[09:03:48] with two two cores with B. K. B.
[09:03:49] to be backed up by the catch that
[09:03:51] is the ag's fiends gate,
[09:03:55] especially when you don't have B. K.
[09:03:56] B's on your own for the side of the
[09:03:57] Andex and you're not really close to
[09:03:59] They're not even thinkin' about them.
[09:04:02] Yeah, I'm just surprised at it.
[09:04:04] It feels difficult to play these fights if you don't have at least one of two weak babies.
[09:04:08] It's oxygen-shin' annoying you, my right now.
[09:04:12] They could potential-oh!
[09:04:14] Massive miss call there from Soxdai and Malik.
[09:04:19] Whether that was gonna be a bushwack lead-off or a UL spear lead-off either way,
[09:04:24] they have absolutely ruined that initiation and heroic clean house as a result.
[09:04:31] No, what they were hoping. That's the tough target no matter what. Yeah, he has a
[09:04:35] Rage as BKB are you even in a person there. You pretty much have to commit in your
[09:04:39] Viper and TA. And that's when you are clumping really heavily. And again, you're clumping
[09:04:44] into the pit into the the midnight pulse firestorm with healthy KBs. That's going to be a
[09:04:51] tough girl. They're almost better poking and insta back in there.
[09:04:58] The roger just gets so much out of these fights. Every time Yander's go back to far in the map,
[09:05:02] they pull the lead back their direction, but they cannot translate it into any sort of human.
[09:05:12] Now, of course, now a Malik is standing in for notice due to a notice being not being able to get here
[09:05:18] into some Malta, but talking about that player and that replacement for Yandex, like how important
[09:05:26] has known it's been to this success of this course, huge.
[09:05:29] I mean, it's talking about player synergy, so I saw this shortly for this world.
[09:05:36] Oh, yeah.
[09:05:37] Oh, okay.
[09:05:38] Scrolling at Slain.
[09:05:39] I mean, player synergy, lane synergy, how you draft all of that changes with a stand.
[09:05:44] It is always a deficit.
[09:05:45] Alex is a very good player, but he's got called here on short notice and it definitely affects your place down a lot
[09:05:51] So there's an asterisk there, but I still think her O-Gar just how the new random and both these teams are on the map
[09:05:57] The shock calling's been better the setups have been quicker
[09:06:01] We haven't really seen and it's be able to
[09:06:04] Just set up some like casual gank pick off you all right. We find some here with blink sphere. We kill them and then we try and do something else
[09:06:12] It's like pulling teeth out here
[09:06:14] just trying to find an open.
[09:06:17] Malik picks up an invisible room problem being
[09:06:20] Ward's century already placed in lane.
[09:06:24] So if he just walked through the lane,
[09:06:25] he wouldn't immediately get caught,
[09:06:27] maybe he can still find an opening somewhere else,
[09:06:29] half duration still left.
[09:06:31] But it does look like Karokar,
[09:06:32] just got a back away, respecting this
[09:06:34] because they did see the room being picked up
[09:06:37] in the bottom part of the map.
[09:06:44] It's a pretty smoke here, super heavy committal for Yennex, they were there all into
[09:06:56] find something with this little timing to have with the Shiva's Viper.
[09:07:02] I mean even if they do kill Whisper here, which it does look like they're going to get
[09:07:06] the whole squad on top of them, he already bought out, so he is not actually going to lose
[09:07:10] And he goes for this. He has a 163 gold in the bank. He already fought out exact and now he's gonna throw out a gate to see if his team can get here
[09:07:17] In time to be able to protect him. He's not going honey. He's he can through the game now. Oh
[09:07:21] That's what I call it. It's done. It's over. This fight is rough here. Junior actually needed to have not much damage to throw into that black hole
[09:07:28] Oh, I think you would travel the tombstone out. Nobody actually died inside of that one with whisper leaving and
[09:07:34] And the Earth's not being able to do a mess despite the battlefield and everything they just pushed through and they just stacked on top of the black hole and who gives a damn
[09:07:44] Where was the damage?
[09:07:47] In fact, this was one of the things I pointed out at the start of the game in terms of how are you scaling your damage sources against the end
[09:07:53] That's re-sawing this fight. You land the black hole of your dreams off of heroes getting painted into pit firestorm and you don't even win it
[09:08:01] The Earth is a pop of the T8, it only stacks, it's broken and the tombstones, oh my god,
[09:08:07] one of the tombstones.
[09:08:08] And he's hitting the tombstones, don't be entire time.
[09:08:11] He's not even hitting the other heroes for the battlefield he hits.
[09:08:14] He's just so stuck on trying to kill Watson, but that tombstone is completely eliminated
[09:08:19] that possibility.
[09:08:20] That was a huge play for now, absolutely, so I wish that.
[09:08:25] How they're going to lose KJ?
[09:08:27] Who's the gem?
[09:08:29] Did he have a gem?
[09:08:32] Or put it back?
[09:08:36] Put that hand over there, you could 40 dollars, okay?
[09:08:38] They'll keep the gem, but what a swing.
[09:08:41] I mean, that gets you second-rosha's game.
[09:08:43] I don't know where.
[09:08:47] Malhadi went into the tombside.
[09:08:49] I think he was trying to grab the banner.
[09:08:51] Excellently went back into his tombstone for a little bit.
[09:08:53] It's chillin' a big garnish, Chate, Aegis and Banner, and ready to take towers.
[09:09:01] There's data list for the TA. Didn't need BKVs to win that fight.
[09:09:06] Now you're gonna start to pick up some big damage.
[09:09:17] It's kinda crazy to it. It was a failed gage for
[09:09:21] Yeah, Dex, it's somehow gets some of their best teamfight.
[09:09:24] Can't see it.
[09:09:25] It's like they all in on the whisper.
[09:09:27] It did not even close it again.
[09:09:29] Like he easily lived.
[09:09:31] I think he really meant almost four man black hole.
[09:09:36] The best fight of their series.
[09:09:39] I don't know.
[09:09:40] I would have thought now they're just running the map.
[09:09:42] God damn.
[09:09:43] All right. Well, lots of them with a thousand damage crit
[09:09:46] and the life of the tiny
[09:09:49] and heroic have lost their net worth lead all of a sudden that game's swinging back to a 50-50.
[09:09:58] Just like that.
[09:10:00] And now our oraker are not to find a way to scale it for a year.
[09:10:04] Because you lost a bit of that momentum with your orability.
[09:10:08] We saw the lack of damage come out in that fight, particularly with some of the sustenance,
[09:10:12] and this a dying.
[09:10:13] Don't have a great tunestone killer, there's only so many overpowers.
[09:10:17] to get to try and bring some materials down.
[09:10:19] So, we might need to see some refreshers come out
[09:10:22] or, like, I guess Ag's refresher and Igma,
[09:10:27] there's a bistle for the Ursa.
[09:10:30] But it confules like the index are controlling
[09:10:32] this game right now.
[09:10:33] They can continue to find some team fights,
[09:10:35] some more pickoffs, chance to build the leap.
[09:10:42] Some O-Cup look at for the initiation, socks up,
[09:10:44] running through the trees,
[09:10:45] reveal KJ and that's Jim, you put it back on. So it's a big loss for KJ here
[09:10:52] who's trying to kill these traps.
[09:11:00] Now you're right at the beginning to a point. Quick load jump, take
[09:11:03] south Soxa with the buyback on KJ Whisper. He comes
[09:11:07] ranks in middle of this when they've got them are as kind of stuck on
[09:11:10] the need this tier two while Ursa and the tiny head
[09:11:13] to back out to bottom tier 2 so don't think that was quite the jump that Heroke was hoping
[09:11:19] it was going to be felt a little split.
[09:11:24] What won't get there?
[09:11:25] Did he just remove the nightmare?
[09:11:28] I think that Mars should have been screwed based on the positioning he got out of the
[09:11:34] two.
[09:11:35] So that's a nice little break there for you, Ducks.
[09:11:39] get a bean buyback they stole the gem from him.
[09:11:43] Don't lose anybody to black hole. There's eggs for a
[09:11:49] tie-long settle up his damage considerably.
[09:11:52] Is KJ the one to buy that gem?
[09:11:55] Yes. Dude, he is so rich.
[09:11:58] Holy crap. Like how does he have 1,700 gold after buying
[09:12:02] gem after buying back and has a blink dead?
[09:12:05] Brown boots will do that.
[09:12:07] I'm gonna get shot. There's nobody anything else the gold saves up. I mean he's the porous hero in his game. Hang on, he has just doesn't look that bad
[09:12:19] Yeah, well he saw his is the tough 15-minute market. It'll start to roll that
[09:12:25] That's what you need all day
[09:12:29] Be courier no
[09:12:33] Was that a low ground miss or did he get off the shield in time?
[09:12:37] That could have been stopping the bloodstone.
[09:12:40] He got hit in.
[09:12:42] So I must have been the shield.
[09:12:44] Oh, no, that's the second hit he threw the currenter went up to a high ground.
[09:12:48] Yeah, it could have been a, maybe he missed.
[09:12:51] That's just unlucky.
[09:12:55] The items coming in now for Yandex.
[09:12:57] So what that signifies, we saw BKB for Watson.
[09:13:01] There's that bloodstone. There's just so tanky.
[09:13:04] They're just going to sit in the Viper goo as a blob.
[09:13:06] And there's got a damage test to rog.
[09:13:10] And I think if you're a rog, I think the only way to win is not to play.
[09:13:15] You know, I think you don't try and do that damage test.
[09:13:18] I think you just split the map.
[09:13:21] I told Enigma refresher.
[09:13:23] I mean, that's kind of all you're looking at here in terms of damage upgrade.
[09:13:29] Well, she want to try and scale this underwater into something.
[09:13:32] I mean, the NX is not going to get an answer to that at any time soon.
[09:13:38] No, but you can, you can't scale past Bockel.
[09:13:42] But when Waker's in the uses, quite a little bit of a way to jump on a malach stopping
[09:13:47] to your sphere initiation, now take a lot of damage, but thanks to his shield and now the
[09:13:51] undying tombstone, bailing him out, you might be struggling to be able to get the
[09:13:55] focus title, actually something that Thailand did not make up what most people go!
[09:13:59] No, Thai log, not like this!
[09:14:02] Throwes out the black hole still dies to the wants and hits and Yandex will just roll over her
[09:14:09] Role and because as soon as you miss that black hole in the hei-shin
[09:14:15] Yandex is going to absolutely run you rover
[09:14:20] You got two shot there on that day. I was just sliced and diced
[09:14:26] Nice nine to talk about it. That was cool. It's tough to play in it. Like it's key
[09:14:31] the little luxe hushie muters and saying the high there's a two-sode save in this game
[09:14:35] this game just can point you felt part. There's the team life that the
[09:14:43] one lava we got there. I just gave it over at this point because he went in
[09:14:47] for all of these oras and this time he went with herself around these
[09:14:50] rush-ons and the second you kind of stumbled that he had extra just going to
[09:14:55] severely outskill you here. What was the other option though? Because the
[09:15:00] The enigma kind of has to go, I think, this build that he went under Lord doesn't really have another option, like they're in the right-click build, but I don't think it works at all against EA.
[09:15:09] I don't think there isn't a way to play this on, I think you just had to go.
[09:15:13] You had to go all in and you had to execute, well, you could not lose a rush on in this game to have a chance.
[09:15:20] and even then I think it would have been tough this one dying you just went to the link
[09:15:24] eight year olds. Now like what's thinking about when Waker later on saves for this
[09:15:29] black hole wouldn't come out with some point you know. Sure and then years you just
[09:15:34] don't have a lot of a reversal. I think sometimes you can hide in my cylinder lord as a
[09:15:38] physical damage dealer but you're against fight bro this game. I think that just
[09:15:42] makes that option entirely too. That's the reason it's here so obnoxious to play against.
[09:15:46] It's hard to shut the Viper down, and then you just, lonely.
[09:15:50] You just get to the third, fourth, fifth line.
[09:15:53] You start looking at him and you're just, you're thinking,
[09:15:57] What am I supposed to do to this, dude?
[09:16:00] You know, and maybe you can kill your junior in this game.
[09:16:04] But what it costs you to kill him will end up losing you.
[09:16:07] That's that. That's Viper game.
[09:16:09] He just makes himself so difficult as a target.
[09:16:13] that no longer becomes worth it, and that he just gets a free plate, just sits in there,
[09:16:17] it's you at the whole time, does insane now damage?
[09:16:22] Do you think, um, time-long is...
[09:16:25] is happy playing the enigma?
[09:16:28] Thank you, it's happy with those first two black holes in this game.
[09:16:31] Oh, maybe. He's happy with the team team fight that they lost, where he got the black hole.
[09:16:37] I mean, it probably felt really good.
[09:16:40] I think he's played fine. I think he's executed.
[09:16:43] as well as you can kind of ask in the team fights.
[09:16:47] Maybe you could have dominated the lane a little harder, but that's a tough call.
[09:16:57] Well, from one red item to another,
[09:17:00] Earthbloodstone, Dow Heart,
[09:17:02] Charad Junior is untouchable.
[09:17:04] He's got 4,000 HP.
[09:17:06] He's got a rattle cage.
[09:17:07] You take so much damage if you try and focus him down.
[09:17:11] hard. There's no way you can go on this fight per year. It's going to kill yourself trying.
[09:17:18] You have no break either in this lineup. You just got to get a refresher in a month. Hope
[09:17:23] you can land some crazy double black hole sequence into that third rush. That's your prayer here
[09:17:29] if you're heroic. And again, the endics are thinking about that. They know that it's probably,
[09:17:34] you know, they're saying the only wind condition for them is the land crazy black holes. So just
[09:17:38] just itemize to survive, stop, or bail each other out of Black Hole, and we can't lose a fight.
[09:17:44] And they're correct in that.
[09:17:45] So, ever ahead, and from here on out, there's just going to be an ideal with that.
[09:17:48] We saw Heart on the Viper, A on disk on the Mars.
[09:17:51] The Tombstone saves already.
[09:17:53] There's another Eulz on Sox, for so much to dodge potentially when Waker later.
[09:17:59] And you can always just save by that, too.
[09:18:02] I mean, that there's also something Yandex can think about is,
[09:18:04] We'll just say bye back. We'll go in the fight. You'll wipe us and we'll buy back and get
[09:18:09] Russian who cares, right?
[09:18:17] Maybe start looking for tossbacks as the other avenue here. We haven't seen a lot of this
[09:18:20] tiny action scheme, but that is something. You get isolated here. I'm bringing
[09:18:25] into the ball with the Earth to go to town. Maybe you bait that clump a bit better, too.
[09:18:29] And it's trying to change in after that hero who got tossed in. Suddenly you can black
[09:18:34] three of them grip somebody else. That could be a winning recipe too.
[09:18:39] I mean AF, Tylon can just get to a refresher, but the potential is there with an
[09:18:45] axe, right? You've got percentage-based damage from the night poles for
[09:18:48] percentage-based max HP damage off of the axe black hole. You get two of those
[09:18:54] each.
[09:18:56] Oh yeah, it's there. It's there if you can land it up.
[09:19:01] But you got to remember, which tombstone saved? There's A on disk.
[09:19:05] And there's this TA who will probably three shot you with a crit.
[09:19:10] Hey, today, I'll bring some of the smoke.
[09:19:13] Guys is pulling dagger to your junior, just kind of diving up to the high ground, seeing what's what?
[09:19:22] It's very close.
[09:19:23] It's very close.
[09:19:23] It's very close.
[09:19:26] I don't really need to find a way to get some formulas.
[09:19:28] I think you're by-off for it.
[09:19:30] There's no reason to take me by back in this game.
[09:19:33] If you're on the side of heroic, you'll abyze out for evidence, broach.
[09:19:38] This is the evidence, broach game.
[09:19:41] It doesn't feel like it.
[09:19:43] How high the Vipers match the consist is.
[09:19:46] Hey, now I guess he still has Cecil's surge.
[09:19:48] I was going to say they could take the undying save off the table at the start.
[09:19:52] That would be pretty sweet, but...
[09:19:54] Yeah, you can't do that.
[09:19:56] Yeah, his extra life is been off cooldown for quite some time.
[09:20:00] Ward's entry got to be dropped.
[09:20:01] See the TA.
[09:20:03] That's huge.
[09:20:04] I got to get the toss back.
[09:20:05] The opportunity with the BKB black holes
[09:20:07] he'd taken focus down, walks, and they're trying to get through
[09:20:10] this where a branch and they'd taken a while without a second black hole.
[09:20:13] They'd just seemingly do not have enough damage.
[09:20:15] Okay, maybe Watson is going to fall here, but here's from your man.
[09:20:18] Rack it up some serious damage.
[09:20:19] He is slowing down human can he staying on top of him?
[09:20:21] You have a beautiful pushback in from socks it up,
[09:20:23] poking out the side, gets the double,
[09:20:25] to allow to your junior finally finish up that Earth stuff.
[09:20:28] The Elecore just managed to get away off the T.P. while whisperer,
[09:20:32] well whisper is not making it out of here. So I might as well just bite you with damage.
[09:20:35] Ready to end, you know, right?
[09:20:36] T.P. and he's done?
[09:20:38] Yeah, he could push back in there.
[09:20:39] Oh, no.
[09:20:41] Yeah, you all's cool down.
[09:20:43] I think Soxa is gonna regret that play,
[09:20:47] because that's not an award you can easily clean up there.
[09:20:49] Can't get everything. Still solid fight for Yandex behind this
[09:20:54] this Viper, you still reign supreme.
[09:20:56] But that was the kind of toss back that Heroka
[09:20:58] looking for, isolate the target black hole,
[09:21:00] and group going into that TA, and he survived it all.
[09:21:04] Kind of wild.
[09:21:06] Did they overlap the grip black hole again?
[09:21:09] No, not too much.
[09:21:10] You basically threw it at the end of the black hole,
[09:21:12] but again, it gets a little canceled early.
[09:21:16] You had to throw it there.
[09:21:17] You don't want this TA game items and spells all.
[09:21:22] But there's things that can bail them out of it.
[09:21:23] It's just not there to me.
[09:21:26] It's a large committee along the one.
[09:21:28] Could have been very different, but the fact that he's
[09:21:30] level 25 were extra refraction instances every single one
[09:21:35] of those hits that is locked from the Ersa,
[09:21:38] or doing so much potential damage, but are just wasted.
[09:21:41] And I thought it was too long to kill that TA.
[09:21:45] You're most struggling these fights here.
[09:21:46] And the majority of the damage that I came from midnight
[09:21:48] full of firestorm, but the fight is centered there
[09:21:51] all sitting there. It's funny how free this should have been, but socks are a bit of a brain
[09:21:58] fart there. He's usually very good at what he does. I'm cool. It's the time. It's like it's
[09:22:05] not particularly. Nothing too costly has the index. I think I'm straight to that roast pit.
[09:22:12] This is the downside of the black hole game. If you use it, and you win all of the fight,
[09:22:19] It's not dominant enough, then you're just going to lose the objective anyway.
[09:22:23] Super valuable.
[09:22:25] You just give it to Watson and that he is not worried about getting Black Hole.
[09:22:31] Inchanged targets?
[09:22:33] Or are you still like, we just have to haul in.
[09:22:36] Skip on the TA.
[09:22:38] And we have to hope we can kill him in the first Black Hole, and then he comes back.
[09:22:42] Second Black Hole, or second life.
[09:22:45] I think you have to look for tossbacks.
[09:22:48] I don't think you can commit no life all in here.
[09:22:52] There's saves in this game, it's just not going to work out for you.
[09:22:55] Basically you have to go for the high ground defense with tossbacks and play that game
[09:22:58] and be patient here with the ending one.
[09:23:01] And look for some bigger opportunities.
[09:23:03] I'm gonna prompt a tiny eye.
[09:23:06] I guess just trying to get the timer as fast as possible.
[09:23:08] You know Yandex are going high ground here and you have to have the tiny for the high ground
[09:23:12] defense. Expicked up by the hoodwink as well by the way, Soxa is cooking with this
[09:23:20] cast range. Everybody's getting nice and fat on the side of the index. They have a
[09:23:26] fresher shard. They have ages and she's. You know what Soxa should go next?
[09:23:35] on a visible one.
[09:23:40] That would be the stylish option, though he can also just finish
[09:23:43] when the Waker here with his Eulz.
[09:23:45] Yeah, but like, you know, when Waker only plays one person,
[09:23:48] he's got the extra castring from, uh, go nuts, you know?
[09:23:52] It's sure he can do it.
[09:23:54] This is one of the heroes like Coddle, is the other one.
[09:23:57] They can also pull off that abyssel.
[09:23:58] So it's an option here for him.
[09:24:01] just so expensive, so it really is.
[09:24:04] It's a really expensive item to build for scratch.
[09:24:06] Yeah, it's oxygenation about, uh,
[09:24:08] Mike's sure that's true.
[09:24:11] You can have been an extra 1,000 gold richer here.
[09:24:18] Her tarmenter at the game, nobody gets it.
[09:24:20] And they all have their charred already, Dan.
[09:24:28] Gold's more valuable, though, so.
[09:24:30] and no doubt no doubt definitely not sad about it.
[09:24:37] I'm surprised that in force the high ground.
[09:24:43] I'm gonna have to at some point in this game.
[09:24:48] Butterfly. I was kind of furious at Whisper would go for the other 25 pound. The one
[09:24:54] and then nobody goes for the 125 DPS.
[09:24:57] No way.
[09:24:58] Just because I mean if you're all in on this black hole combo,
[09:25:01] they're gonna deem to hear a junior.
[09:25:03] A man like all in his way,
[09:25:05] but the other core is gonna be able to stop
[09:25:06] with the avalanche.
[09:25:07] Now the black hole can even,
[09:25:08] the junior is gonna die in this,
[09:25:09] and they also got the black hole in the Watson,
[09:25:11] but it's the second black hole going on.
[09:25:13] Not to finish up, I'm quite.
[09:25:14] It's gonna be the Teppler assassin down,
[09:25:16] coming back on the second life.
[09:25:17] Aurora, they start back in the way,
[09:25:19] knowing what the Teppler assassin coming back,
[09:25:21] they have to back out with the buyback
[09:25:23] from Tira Junior, a full commitment from Yandex heroic.
[09:25:26] This has been a beautiful jump
[09:25:28] if they can just get back to the base,
[09:25:29] but whisper slow down, a desperate T-V away.
[09:25:32] Gonna be denied by the spear.
[09:25:34] Jump back in from Yuma,
[09:25:35] buttony on Discon Mallock.
[09:25:36] It stops in real quick,
[09:25:37] and it's gonna be cottony gold.
[09:25:39] We're gonna be kidding me to save him.
[09:25:40] He hasn't arranged.
[09:25:41] He's gonna try for it and arrange.
[09:25:42] It Mallock is best you can, but he can't finish off.
[09:25:44] Now he's gonna be spirit.
[09:25:46] Now it's gonna heal off, and they are not having any
[09:25:49] buybacks to play this through Yandex.
[09:25:51] pages whether through the storm they say you can have the black holes if you want
[09:25:55] you can have a second black hole as many as you need, but we just have the lives to throw
[09:25:59] at you.
[09:26:00] Bye, backs.
[09:26:01] We're always going to win that game.
[09:26:03] There's just too many lives to black hole in this one.
[09:26:07] Do you found the undying pickoff before that is the dream start to go on with the black
[09:26:13] holes you have so much freedom?
[09:26:14] It just doesn't matter.
[09:26:15] If you just have buyback to your boss's life with a can instantly rejoin too much
[09:26:18] scale in this lineup too much front line too much tank and you're building or is on two
[09:26:23] heroes effectively. You just don't have a way to ramp up the damage. I think this game is
[09:26:28] kind of locked in with that, or so pick. Going into this style lineup where you either had the
[09:26:34] pick and other semi-carrier run carry or you were always going to have to snowball this game
[09:26:38] incredibly hard. I think that just puts a lot of pressure on you. It was unnecessary.
[09:26:43] And giving me a bit of whip latch. In Italy, I thought this was just going to be heroic
[09:26:48] stopping over Yandex in a game two and forcing us to a third and perhaps a deciding game three
[09:26:56] but instead Yandex often one of those crazy team fights just put the game on its head and now we're at an even series.
[09:27:04] Well, you would not be alone in a throw-by-any means cap. We were also sitting there having
[09:27:08] similar thoughts too and we were like, well if it does go up to a for a row it's probably just
[09:27:13] is gonna be a straight up three o'clock in the best of five,
[09:27:15] but Yandex, like you said,
[09:27:17] weathered this storm, they hit that critical mast,
[09:27:19] and they were able to get what their lineup needed.
[09:27:22] And it didn't necessarily go the way that you guys predicted,
[09:27:25] but it did end in that result for Yandex being able
[09:27:28] to have a lot of space for the TA and the Viper.
[09:27:33] I don't know, it's just a funny hero
[09:27:35] when everyone's banging at first phase
[09:27:36] and you see it do well early or lost
[09:27:39] and then just have another resurgence.
[09:27:40] I hate this, you're actually like, this picture guy, and that is like you kind of have the most obscure counter and even that guy like he just barely beats you
[09:27:49] Like, like the snipers and some of the leaders, and we'll obviously this hero is incredibly good and has a lot of like a merit to it
[09:27:54] But I feel like some of these heroes, you know, like, don't give them all the Ws
[09:27:58] You want to say something
[09:27:59] I sort of totally start phrasing the index
[09:28:01] I didn't want to, you know, praise her a little bit right
[09:28:04] I did really went for this like, 18-19 minute version and they're getting the commander
[09:28:08] the utilising the earth in that sense that the game did blow down to one bad fight and then
[09:28:13] you understand it right away with a game right but I gotta say for a rock as much as the
[09:28:16] job looked a little bit different and unique to other team different different different different
[09:28:21] because I like to take a lot of political yeah yeah that's good I mean I was like again the way
[09:28:25] that I'm playing it it was a age of strippin team they have to get every ages they have to be
[09:28:30] able to continue playing on their tempo so if they make a big team fight mistake if they give away
[09:28:34] an ages you can see the cracks very quickly for me in this type of lineup right
[09:28:37] But both of course, an age of some TA in this fight.
[09:28:39] Specifically, you don't care if it's one, two, three billion black holes.
[09:28:43] You're just going to keep playing.
[09:28:44] Of course, three billion black holes probably will be the same.
[09:28:45] I think you might have won the game. You get three billion black holes.
[09:28:47] You might. Yeah. Yeah. But still.
[09:28:49] I feel like I got a respect to work's attempt.
[09:28:51] Just the Undex, the Viper TA. Too good.
[09:28:54] I also don't think it's a bad sign at all for Roach.
[09:28:57] I think, I mean, I said during the drop,
[09:28:58] but I think their heroes are completely horrendous against the annexes.
[09:29:01] And I think you see it in the draft because I think
[09:29:03] Roach played better than the annex did this game.
[09:29:04] I think generally they made more moves, they played better in the fights and they're simply
[09:29:09] burdened by the fact that their heroes just have horrific matchups against Yannick's heroes.
[09:29:13] So if they're even relatively close in net worth, like there was this bottom fight where
[09:29:17] the underlord gets gone on and they get like five men black.
[09:29:19] I feel they're close.
[09:29:20] Yeah, and then they just still lose the fight because their heroes are just cheeks.
[09:29:25] I mean heroes being potentially bad in Quinn's eyes, maybe people not right-clicking correctly
[09:29:30] in another fight, you know, it's kind of like a...
[09:29:32] I will say that. Oh, yeah, walk inside. Let's just watch the clip. All right, big jump on an unload. Oh, you're together
[09:29:39] Ty long trying to showcase his his tournament to win and then you must decide to click a TA
[09:29:45] Click a tune click a tune click a tune. Okay, let's see one. He's broken. Yeah, too
[09:29:51] Counting with us walking that three
[09:29:54] Or
[09:29:55] Okay, okay, it's well, okay, he maybe maybe you would have told Mars and four right like maybe
[09:30:01] But that's it.
[09:30:03] Mars dying?
[09:30:04] That's, that's, that's,
[09:30:05] that's exactly something.
[09:30:06] He had it the one he did.
[09:30:07] It's better.
[09:30:08] You know, it's still be a one for three.
[09:30:10] You know what's also funny?
[09:30:10] This clip only turns into more than one under a kill
[09:30:13] because Malik has whiffed all his spells.
[09:30:15] So under a gets his spells off, then everyone comes.
[09:30:17] Instead of just being one under the Lord,
[09:30:19] yeah, three goes.
[09:30:20] You could just fill it, given up the area.
[09:30:21] But still, that's the type of play there for right.
[09:30:22] Where if you just chill, don't rush into whatever the hell
[09:30:26] we just want, like the mid grinder of the meat grinder.
[09:30:28] Oh, yeah.
[09:30:29] I'm pretty sure a rope might be in a much better
[09:30:31] Because after that they lost the tempo, the rush ends and everything you need this draft to do.
[09:30:35] So that play there, run it back, do it differently.
[09:30:39] I kind of feel like we could be doing it right, Quentin.
[09:30:41] Hmm.
[09:30:42] Could I very much agree with you?
[09:30:44] Maybe.
[09:30:45] No, I'm just giving it back to you.
[09:30:46] Okay, thank you, Quentin.
[09:30:47] No, I totally agree.
[09:30:49] And I think next game is your heroic just pick normal simple stuff.
[09:30:52] We saw a good hero's in game.
[09:30:53] Well, we saw stuff that made a lot of sense.
[09:30:54] I think if you're giving Viper, you need a different answer or you need to not give Viper.
[09:30:58] because I don't think, I think what is a real response,
[09:31:01] like Kesley said, they pretty much drew the lane.
[09:31:03] If you're picking a Nigma mid, you need more
[09:31:05] than a lane drop, because your mid hero is gonna be
[09:31:07] a backline, goober, the entire game after the early game,
[09:31:10] and he's also offering almost no damage.
[09:31:12] He's all locked down, and that's a very weird thing
[09:31:14] for a mid hero to offer.
[09:31:15] I think he needs extremely specific lineups
[09:31:18] that function around you, and if you're having no damage,
[09:31:20] like that's a very strange archetype.
[09:31:22] We never talk about this player on this panel.
[09:31:25] What's that?
[09:31:26] We prepare for this player on this panel.
[09:31:29] The olical.
[09:31:30] Tiny.
[09:31:31] I've got to give him some commendation this game, all right?
[09:31:33] Tom had the decision.
[09:31:34] Unless you want to go to follow the script.
[09:31:36] No, you just sign.
[09:31:37] No, let's go.
[09:31:38] You got to see his other boss.
[09:31:39] He's the other.
[09:31:40] There it is, because I feel like you're...
[09:31:41] No, no.
[09:31:42] Again, Yandex won the game, so talking about his circles,
[09:31:44] kind of weird, but it's okay.
[09:31:46] Only weird as you're making weird.
[09:31:47] Yeah.
[09:31:48] Fair enough.
[09:31:49] But even way, I feel like he's on the side of it.
[09:31:50] He was always like, I feel like I'm the player.
[09:31:52] He kind of just exists with him teams.
[09:31:53] Like he does his job, but in this game,
[09:31:54] He was always thinking ahead.
[09:31:56] He was always looking for the next match.
[09:31:58] And again, it all came crumbling down at some point.
[09:32:00] But I kind of want to give at least one little shout out to Fiola.
[09:32:02] Like the way that he was playing this game
[09:32:04] was like he kind of deserved to win at some point.
[09:32:06] Again, maybe the draft from Quincy.
[09:32:08] Maybe that fight we showed.
[09:32:09] I worked blundering at different points.
[09:32:10] But shout out to Fiola.
[09:32:12] No, I agree.
[09:32:13] I think he had a lot of good place.
[09:32:14] Like he had a lot of nice toss effects.
[09:32:15] And I think overall in the game already.
[09:32:17] What?
[09:32:18] What?
[09:32:19] What?
[09:32:20] What?
[09:32:22] What?
[09:32:23] And I agree with you, you know, this is one of the best things in my opinion about
[09:32:28] from always like, you know, there's a way to do all this stuff, but one of their best
[09:32:31] things is absolutely how they fight or how they engage into a fight, like how they smoke
[09:32:35] the reference.
[09:32:36] They fact was even here, they're down like 14, 15k, I believe, in the fight start, but
[09:32:40] you know, they get a toss back, they try to get like the correct black hole to then bring
[09:32:43] it back into the game.
[09:32:44] Obviously, it's hard at this point because yeah, I also think at some point there's like,
[09:32:47] you have some underlord, you have some in there, you have a little damage, you need to
[09:32:50] play pretty perfect.
[09:32:51] The game is going to that point.
[09:32:52] This game's, like, at that point.
[09:32:54] Second rule, she's gone.
[09:32:55] It's second rule, she's gone.
[09:32:56] So I'm worried, yeah.
[09:32:57] I did.
[09:32:58] Yeah, I'm a fan of you, of course, so you're worried.
[09:33:00] Is it, like, Mercury is the highest former flattery?
[09:33:03] Something like that.
[09:33:04] That's what he just did.
[09:33:05] Thank you. That's what I just did.
[09:33:06] Yep.
[09:33:07] Do you think the horror should be coping with Yandex did in this game?
[09:33:10] No, no.
[09:33:11] No, no, no, no.
[09:33:12] What the horror is 25 minutes?
[09:33:13] No, I don't think so.
[09:33:14] I think true, I don't think so.
[09:33:15] Fuck, guys, they're up with all I'm back in the jar.
[09:33:17] No, it's all good.
[09:33:18] That's a shit idea.
[09:33:18] Those two two questions.
[09:33:19] I think there were a lot of moves that Yennex had potential for, they did not do, and some moves that they did.
[09:33:25] They tried like this slow attempt, oh nature of Yennex.
[09:33:27] Yeah, exactly. I think if you're gonna have place slower than you need to, not force moves without the proper numbers,
[09:33:34] because there's some fights that they try to sort of make happen in a way that they're just very, very strange.
[09:33:39] They're diving some tower with their hives that were here or not there, or there's a fight where they're hitting the mid tower,
[09:33:45] and T.A. just gets tossed back into the tower like there's that one.
[09:33:47] Everyone was very there's everyone's missing and he just gets tossed back in a tower these moments
[09:33:51] I think our yeah, we can see here. He's just hitting the tower and she just gives tossed in and then just dies
[09:33:58] It's extremely fuel or say the eight is a double double point. I would one time
[09:34:03] Join again. We have to be able to core with the toss back super great. That's a lot of love. But secondary combination
[09:34:08] He wasn't even smoked so technically this place shouldn't really happen so Watson L. I think for allowing this to have like
[09:34:14] like daytime tiny blink tossing you like that.
[09:34:16] It's minute 20 you're hitting the table.
[09:34:17] More important to our off the game, by the way.
[09:34:19] No, no, cannot hit like that.
[09:34:21] But what the made a couple elves and two elves
[09:34:23] can make a W and that's why Yandex won.
[09:34:25] That was pretty stupid.
[09:34:27] Man, oh my god.
[09:34:28] Wait, five.
[09:34:29] Bam, boom, that camera.
[09:34:31] Anyway, well it's all my career.
[09:34:32] I can yandex won the game guys.
[09:34:33] So how do you want to play this game?
[09:34:35] I know you guys really have to borrow
[09:34:36] because you're talking about the early part of the game.
[09:34:39] And now we want to talk about the point
[09:34:40] when Yandex hit critical mouse.
[09:34:42] when there was everything coming together.
[09:34:44] At the TAs got enough fun,
[09:34:46] you're getting these great initiations from the Mars,
[09:34:49] which I think is maybe something we want to highlight a bit more
[09:34:52] because again, this tend in fact
[09:34:53] to whether people are aware of it or not.
[09:34:55] The end of the mallet joining them.
[09:34:57] So not been normal off-laner and notice,
[09:34:59] he is a bit of a last minute on what I come to mold up.
[09:35:03] Simply put, oh come, I'll join.
[09:35:05] There it is.
[09:35:06] Blinky boy mallet, give him a blink, give him a stun
[09:35:08] and he's gonna do his job.
[09:35:09] All right, no more raises, all right, done.
[09:35:11] No more anything else, no more weird heroes.
[09:35:13] I want to see him on an initiating dude.
[09:35:16] He's going to sacrifice himself,
[09:35:17] open up the fight for Watson to do all his shenanigans
[09:35:20] that were at the 13, 4 and 9s.
[09:35:21] And I think he's going to be able to be quite a reliable stand-in.
[09:35:24] And as we are going to show his player journey,
[09:35:26] again, Malik, as a player,
[09:35:27] has had quite a kind of a weird career.
[09:35:29] Of course, he played on PS2 Quest.
[09:35:32] He had 61 appearances.
[09:35:34] Best of all, being fair, if he joined Team Spirit
[09:35:36] to stand him and collapse needed to take a break,
[09:35:37] got four, third, and fourth.
[09:35:40] And then he left Team Spirit.
[09:35:41] but then since the passing from them,
[09:35:43] he's yet to really find any form in the tier one scene
[09:35:45] because before and during Team Spirit,
[09:35:47] he had pretty notable results.
[09:35:49] Now there's played of four different teams,
[09:35:50] lost eight close qualifiers in Eastern Europe
[09:35:53] and yet to really kind of ground himself
[09:35:55] as an Eastern European offline.
[09:35:56] Because I feel like on spirit,
[09:35:58] he was on that path of like,
[09:35:59] he's gonna be the next guy and then he kind of disappeared.
[09:36:03] And that is why it was so important
[09:36:04] that right now getting him at a land
[09:36:07] here in the studio at Malta,
[09:36:08] which I'm trying to talk to him.
[09:36:11] playing with the stand-in, I think it's okay because changing one player doesn't make us
[09:36:17] any different, so I think we are still the same.
[09:36:21] To be standing for Team Andex, it's good, we played not much, but I know to them, like
[09:36:29] cause I've played my close friends, we always hang out, I know them very well, about
[09:36:38] I was like, I'm sure Junior, it's like very, very far.
[09:36:42] I would say, common.
[09:36:44] Each other would say, we're just good connected, that's all.
[09:36:49] And I think, like, I swear, experience player,
[09:36:52] and he just knows, he's very experienced.
[09:36:55] And it was so easy to find, you know,
[09:36:58] some communication, also.
[09:37:01] And it was easy for me.
[09:37:04] I had the experience for spending a bit of it.
[09:37:08] Always losing.
[09:37:09] Because that's it.
[09:37:12] I look at least he was honest about it.
[09:37:14] Whether that brought out good memories or not
[09:37:16] at least he's gotten a W and game number two for himself.
[09:37:18] And of course having to slot in when you do stand in,
[09:37:22] you got sucks as your position for when you're in offline.
[09:37:24] So definitely things aren't too hard.
[09:37:26] And he talks about it.
[09:37:27] They found some going in ground.
[09:37:29] They were able to make things work for themselves.
[09:37:31] Yeah, and I think it's impressive resolve to come back from a game one.
[09:37:33] and also a game two where you're down six k, seven k gold.
[09:37:36] That's not something easy to do mentally.
[09:37:38] In a best of five,
[09:37:39] we can feel like things are slipping away.
[09:37:41] Like you're using control,
[09:37:41] the enemy's all playing you.
[09:37:43] But they were to pull that back,
[09:37:44] and I think that's a great sign for them.
[09:37:45] I think that's a great itemization,
[09:37:46] whether it be the multiple ULs or the A on disk on the Mars,
[09:37:49] the blink shard in the undying.
[09:37:51] I think they understood the way they wanted to play this game.
[09:37:53] That the other team does like them.
[09:37:55] We're going to play up the save.
[09:37:56] We're going to play up surviving,
[09:37:57] and playing that longer, fighting, RTA,
[09:38:00] letting Watson the star of the show do a thing.
[09:38:01] And so I think they understood things well.
[09:38:03] and I like played his part of that symphony very well.
[09:38:06] He's the tuba group and he suited those two very well.
[09:38:10] And I think that was a very key part of it.
[09:38:12] I think I look forward to this game three to see if Yana
[09:38:15] can continue to clean things off because while they
[09:38:17] didn't win that last game, it was a little messy.
[09:38:19] So let's get out the mop and bucket and Shupa swoop up.
[09:38:21] And have a nicer game three.
[09:38:23] Yeah, I kicked it off, Quinn.
[09:38:24] I think it's really good for especially Malik being
[09:38:26] decided when you come into this game one, not good.
[09:38:29] You're going to game two, you get to come back.
[09:38:30] I think you can kind of help you like feel a little bit more
[09:38:33] because I think towards like the mid to late game I saw this thing a lot of like better things from Yannix
[09:38:37] like to me. I think Jira Jr. his early game wasn't a good but this mid to late game quite good.
[09:38:41] Malady as well on the undying. I think he had a very good game. They had a good lane.
[09:38:45] He over was in like the right place at the right time even on a people died first.
[09:38:48] He would like clean up the fight or save the correct people. So Yannix, you're ready to see another good game.
[09:38:54] Maybe they've loosened up a little bit getting that one win under their belt in a best of five.
[09:38:59] might have just gotten the ball rolling for themselves.
[09:39:01] Gonna jump to a break on the other side.
[09:39:03] It continues with a game through draft.
[09:42:29] The trajectory of our best of five is taking a turn and game number two.
[09:42:44] After we saw Yandex be able to fight back and bring a win to the table for themselves.
[09:42:50] Right now is one piece.
[09:42:52] Now, really begs the question,
[09:42:53] are heroic still confident in their unique ideas and pickups?
[09:42:57] Or is there gonna have to be eyes towards letting this vibe
[09:43:00] but through?
[09:43:01] I mean, the fact that their first pick,
[09:43:03] maybe they'll welcome me in, maybe Yandex,
[09:43:06] aren't gonna allow for themselves as right now,
[09:43:08] a Husker, a Bat Rider, a Chen,
[09:43:09] and as you care, take another pool.
[09:43:12] Yeah, I said I think mirroring the bands from the first game,
[09:43:15] where heroic was first picks so far,
[09:43:17] but the Mars is definitely different.
[09:43:19] Yeah, because I would assume like you talked about maybe they won't look at you know some of the more special heroes, but I think this kind of what they rely on like even maybe they skip the Viper, but there's always a high chance they look at like a whisper punch or you know the youma mito, the youma brood mother, it's kind of the it's kind of how this guy's role
[09:43:37] I mean, Heroic is just so scary from first pick because of that 18-to-final pick in the second phase
[09:43:42] like they utilized that I think better than a lot of the teams in this playoffs, the index
[09:43:46] of course by the Viper, they did it the same from the last position, but heroic, they first pick
[09:43:51] tree, then there was a responsibility. So now, Tree's band does that promote raising her
[09:43:57] outside in mindset or is ignore the hero. I feel like they will definitely look at this
[09:44:04] So they really like the hero. There's the Beast Master, but it's first pack beast overall
[09:44:09] against the annex for doesn't really prioritize it that highly. So I don't know if rushing it out the gate like that is what you want necessarily.
[09:44:15] I wouldn't love that.
[09:44:17] I don't know if it's okay, but it's like also they have played this. I at least remember like a time where you
[09:44:23] will play this quite a lot as well. So he's obviously quite experienced also thing carry razor.
[09:44:27] Yep, it's me or the carry razor or mid to off length razor. They play in all three corals.
[09:44:32] Of course, Midnilflane is more or a buying front lid.
[09:44:36] Yeah, it's definitely a pick you're never really going to be sad about, and I think
[09:44:41] it's something that heroic is more comfortable with than Yandex is, like what Watson
[09:44:44] is, a very capable razor player, it's not quite as part of a kick-up.
[09:44:48] Yeah, we're talking about this here, we've been existed with Ben, like every other game.
[09:44:52] It actually went ignored in game number two, new sideband, and all picked it up for themselves.
[09:44:58] Yeah.
[09:44:59] That was the other game.
[09:45:00] I mean, this is, this is, I mean, I think S of is generally good against Razer.
[09:45:06] You by Pike, you by Silver Edge, you space him, you've hit him, things a lot of good things
[09:45:10] that's matchup, and S of also just a gigabrock in your own.
[09:45:14] But is it going to be the Tundra-Docpure Carrying Chattaphyme where you're going to
[09:45:19] fly the Yashakaya blink, then going back to the crits, trying to play for 25, or just
[09:45:24] think it's going to be like a traditional, you know, wats and style of carry, where you're
[09:45:28] the standards grown like hard and pike,
[09:45:29] dangerous and I just right click and I don't need to buy the
[09:45:32] the scrumption stuff.
[09:45:33] Yeah, I think it's I think it's hit up Bill.
[09:45:35] I don't think he's only he's about best bulkass and too much.
[09:45:40] I mean, I guess it's like the it's like the type of ability
[09:45:41] you need to feel it. Like unless you've tried it and
[09:45:44] I'll kind of tend to agree like if I look at Mr Watson as I see a
[09:45:46] finger being up.
[09:45:47] I asked the question without checking the answer.
[09:45:49] He actually did go yet to kind of one time on Watson.
[09:45:52] So he got in the group that you're not in days ago.
[09:45:53] Okay.
[09:45:54] Cool.
[09:45:54] You're wrong.
[09:45:55] I'm wrong.
[09:45:56] Damn.
[09:45:57] That's cool.
[09:45:58] I think you could admit it.
[09:45:58] Yeah, you can kind of trap and fold.
[09:46:01] You laid it up right now.
[09:46:02] I cover a lot from that one, Quinn.
[09:46:04] I mean, you'll need some setup.
[09:46:06] Like, when you want to play the skill,
[09:46:08] at least I would say, like, if you want to blow off
[09:46:09] some of these cores, you know, if they haven't
[09:46:11] early BKB, you can't just do it on your own.
[09:46:14] So depends a bit if Yandex do also have to set up.
[09:46:16] But I will say, what's in generally to me?
[09:46:18] I mean, his Ursa is insane, but generally speaking,
[09:46:21] I, like, he's impressive to me for his range carries.
[09:46:24] And I think range carries are what you want to have
[09:46:27] against Razor, so I would say they're pretty happy with this response actually on the
[09:46:30] end.
[09:46:31] Is this what I just had tell to put the Razor middle though?
[09:46:34] But if you see the hero that's going to have like a five position, the clock, whatever
[09:46:38] body just to annoy Razor in the off lane or the carry, whatever, would you just want to
[09:46:43] put it mid?
[09:46:44] Play a very different game and then you start fighting new heroes through the problem.
[09:46:47] Yeah, it's definitely possible.
[09:46:48] You could look for something like a Darkster, I think Darkster Plus 1 is one of the classic
[09:46:52] counters to shout out for you, and I think it works really well with Razor.
[09:46:55] You get this entire line of the theme
[09:46:56] don't run in game with all these buffs and shells.
[09:46:59] I just madness, and I think that sort of madness vibe,
[09:47:02] like the spirit of your Dark Serious, very good.
[09:47:04] And the person's not worth it, but I think that idea
[09:47:08] of putting Razor somewhere else in counter picking
[09:47:09] the child thing is still very solid.
[09:47:13] Mint Razor definitely works.
[09:47:14] I mean, I wouldn't be opposed to a carry Razor,
[09:47:17] if like other heroes will make up for it.
[09:47:19] You swam the SF, because Razor generally has a good lane.
[09:47:21] He can go through the gate,
[09:47:22] like even if you have a hero to hero match up
[09:47:24] where you struggle later, maybe you can shut down this guy in the early game.
[09:47:28] Because when I look at Tylong, if you play the Nigma last game, obviously, it was fine.
[09:47:32] I think he played it quite okay, but I prefer seeing him on Heroes Deaths.
[09:47:36] On the map, like I think, you have more, like you can get more of the skill,
[09:47:40] like actually out of him in the game play, when it's here also has a lot of plays and options in the game.
[09:47:45] Do you fit with your clan?
[09:47:46] Yeah, I love that.
[09:47:49] I'm not sure favorite three things about that, Brooklyn.
[09:47:51] Like I think it's like how little damage he does and maybe like how bad he is in scirmishes.
[09:47:56] Yeah, and then like it's like how bad a scaling is.
[09:48:00] But what about the grave and then the hills and what, like hold up.
[09:48:06] Hold up.
[09:48:06] I don't know.
[09:48:07] I know chef.
[09:48:09] I mean, like I think that like they picked out a little against SF.
[09:48:13] Pretty reasonable.
[09:48:15] If you get armor, whatever.
[09:48:16] That's my top level.
[09:48:17] That's my top level.
[09:48:18] It's not full-boon fast, so I mean you guys are all haters, well, please keep going.
[09:48:22] Yep, my hater.
[09:48:23] And if clock is 4, it prevents and reporting waves, so there's two nice things about it.
[09:48:27] There's some rationale that the racers hear the runs in, he likes buffs.
[09:48:30] He likes bugs being techified, so I can see why, I still hate it, but I can see why.
[09:48:35] So you were able to mention two good things about that as well.
[09:48:38] Yeah, that's good.
[09:48:39] If you have that up.
[09:48:40] Maybe next time you'll be able to mention 3.
[09:48:42] One positive that does well is if your team is actually moving forward on the map, then you
[09:48:46] don't get jumped because you're doing the jumping.
[09:48:48] You play behind them in the tree line.
[09:48:50] You get to both of the people.
[09:48:51] You've got a big fat cow in the pastures of Malta,
[09:48:55] wanting to agree with her.
[09:48:57] There it is.
[09:48:59] Oh, yes.
[09:49:00] So we did that in the audience.
[09:49:01] Absolutely.
[09:49:02] I already could say that.
[09:49:02] How do a lot, let's go.
[09:49:04] Absolutely.
[09:49:04] Yeah.
[09:49:05] You already know who did it.
[09:49:05] Yeah, I already know.
[09:49:06] Give me a shot.
[09:49:07] Derek.
[09:49:09] Is that his name?
[09:49:10] How did you know?
[09:49:11] Shout out for Derek.
[09:49:11] Shout out for Derek.
[09:49:12] That's it.
[09:49:13] It does start with a dealer.
[09:49:14] OK.
[09:49:15] Anyway, yeah.
[09:49:16] Let's go!
[09:49:17] Space her go in, raise her go in, that will sit behind, happy days.
[09:49:22] But of course the Yandex Clockwork already is a kind of good enough counter for a spare
[09:49:26] breaker, so I don't think they're too alarmed, right?
[09:49:28] Just put a cogs, shut her feet, whoever's getting charged with a bullet next to a cog, and
[09:49:31] they're fine.
[09:49:32] And now they have access.
[09:49:34] Here they utilize a lot with notice when he was playing in the group stage, of course,
[09:49:38] not as it now has taken its place, but the classic counter to get a dazzle.
[09:49:43] It is a good counter to that.
[09:49:44] Are you guys not a bit surprised that they don't really want
[09:49:46] like put their mid-hero on this pick, like against SP, like whether it's some
[09:49:50] park or embers, like they want to keep the SF-lex open, but do you want to play SF mid anyway
[09:49:55] into Spirit Breaker? I'm really happy to brought that up because Spirit Breaker always
[09:49:59] strives when you can play from offlane to offlane. If you can't play in the mid lane,
[09:50:03] your hero is kind of obsolete. You don't really want to twin-gate in charge. It just feels awkward.
[09:50:06] You always just want to have that fluid, side lane to mid lane action. So yeah, preventing
[09:50:11] Spirit Breaker having that comfort would have been a great option. Instead, they've tried to
[09:50:14] to lock down their sidelines,
[09:50:15] we're just really strong aggression, right?
[09:50:17] It's challenging and we can just disrupt this
[09:50:19] bit breaker if he comes here.
[09:50:20] Actal ready is gonna be potent in his aggression.
[09:50:22] Clock, shadow, feet, we've said,
[09:50:23] how good of a lane that is.
[09:50:24] So, they're gonna be really strong in the sidelines,
[09:50:27] and it's very breaker.
[09:50:28] He's not good.
[09:50:29] It shouldn't be really connecting on charges,
[09:50:31] due to the SD in the clock.
[09:50:32] And before it quint, dunks even more on the dazzle
[09:50:34] because there's an ax in the game, we'll chop him.
[09:50:36] There is a complete, you know,
[09:50:37] and now that's holy lock it is, first of all, very good.
[09:50:39] And you can have 25 charges.
[09:50:41] We're going forward to dunk comes out.
[09:50:43] Time is with the 25 holy stick charges and you will bear and then the bunny in miss a exactly
[09:50:49] He missed a discer and then dazzle very good
[09:50:52] So watch out for this play definitely coming out he goes to this person neck neck
[09:50:59] Are you okay?
[09:51:01] Back he said man. I get it down. I have to think about it
[09:51:05] Don't worry guys. I can game three of a five game the best of five confirmed
[09:51:10] What if you if you make an00 lucky look and now that's the giga whoo
[09:51:14] Super duper yeah, you're just or mega-healing him yeah
[09:51:19] Keep it up. Yeah, that's the kind of I feel like big time chilling in the draft right it's like they're lanes are good
[09:51:24] You know what like their mid game times gonna be it's played through the actual people behind
[09:51:28] It's something gets jumped you have so much counterplay with the other three heroes and have right it
[09:51:33] It's a very obvious draft right like you know what they need to do. They need to get on top of each other
[09:51:38] and maintain that position the entire time.
[09:51:41] And then when there's hook shocks and cogs and act calls
[09:51:43] and purges to slow people down or contain them, etc.
[09:51:45] Like I feel like Shofin will be up to this engage
[09:51:48] from that initiation.
[09:51:49] So, the Roaks and its pick has to give me a little bit more
[09:51:52] explosive damage and a little bit more punch
[09:51:53] because they got the way to start a fight,
[09:51:55] a way to kind of go, hey, we're doing it,
[09:51:57] but there's no finish and no, I fuck that back, you know?
[09:52:01] Yeah, I think Yannick's have a lot of great tools
[09:52:02] and throw it seriously.
[09:52:04] Yeah, and I don't feel like a Roak has the same
[09:52:06] the other way around.
[09:52:07] It's a lot of stuff that runs in against charity and clockwork,
[09:52:10] shout-offing with a pike.
[09:52:11] It's a lot of stuff that's good against the run-in.
[09:52:13] What are you talking about?
[09:52:14] I want to see some pox here on heroic.
[09:52:18] I also find it really interesting that this was the five
[09:52:21] and the arrow, with the using a lot of that time,
[09:52:24] when it comes to the later end of the second phase of the fix,
[09:52:27] whereas when we saw Falcon and Liquid,
[09:52:29] it was mostly used on the bands and into the final pack.
[09:52:32] So it's like, where they utilizing a lot of that
[09:52:35] I think he was, time is slightly different.
[09:52:37] That just, I'm worried about the joke.
[09:52:40] I don't know the joke.
[09:52:41] I get the word.
[09:52:42] It's my pillow last night, internally.
[09:52:44] Okay, I am.
[09:52:45] It's my head, it's really funny.
[09:52:46] Okay, okay, all right, we'll get it off live.
[09:52:47] It was going to be a joke about how they need to use
[09:52:49] more time to draw off compared to other people.
[09:52:51] So, it doesn't matter.
[09:52:53] Okay, damn, that's all we're at.
[09:52:54] Great, Pockpick T.
[09:52:57] Yeah.
[09:52:58] Pock, SD, no stun, half free game.
[09:53:00] Tylon, what be the MVP of the game?
[09:53:02] It's Pockpick does help a lot.
[09:53:04] They have both supports, it gives you the sort of poking in and out damage.
[09:53:07] It makes you not like all committing all at once.
[09:53:09] So both in theme and also against the next heroes, I like it a lot.
[09:53:14] And we've seen Talon's power on the hero, so I think it is a very, very sensible pick.
[09:53:19] And the voice her ban also very good is, yeah, I just gonna need something that deals with it in some way.
[09:53:25] The other route you can do against, Puck, is you can accept, okay, we can't really kill this guy early on.
[09:53:29] And you play for either a later hex, or you play for just winning lanes and being too
[09:53:33] because Puck is somewhat low damage, so you can play information, build up the tankiness,
[09:53:37] and act as a pipe, and you play for longer fights, is also another option.
[09:53:41] I'd like to offer up two heroes to the panel.
[09:53:43] Listening.
[09:53:44] Thanks for accepting offering.
[09:53:45] Hey, Kunker, order Slada.
[09:53:47] Well, not Slada, which is good.
[09:53:49] It banned.
[09:53:50] To Slada, just because of course, you lane really went to Puck, and then you bring more
[09:53:54] mindset towards Shadowfiend, and then Kunker, so the fact that Spirit
[09:53:58] doesn't really get into this mess anyway, it's like, this is awkward, hard to kill him,
[09:54:01] and boatbuff on top of already a shutter fan that has the saves,
[09:54:04] Kunkel to free from the park.
[09:54:06] There isn't the perfect lockdown to kind of park
[09:54:07] so maybe you are offering up Thailand a complete free game,
[09:54:10] but if your plan is just walk together
[09:54:12] to protect China's theme, it could be an option.
[09:54:14] Outside of that, then you are looking at the classic media here
[09:54:17] as they have a stun just to try and know it,
[09:54:19] but you know the Chinese or whatever,
[09:54:20] but again, they've not done very well so far, plus them.
[09:54:24] And do we feel like the drag and night to park with matchup?
[09:54:27] It's not really, it's drag and night even survival.
[09:54:30] No one's really pretty at that.
[09:54:31] You just need a deterrent to the spare breaker.
[09:54:34] That's where like DK's okay, but you need level 6 to then have Dragon Forms to then get a stun.
[09:54:40] Like the tiny and other mid-hairs like Embo, you can have a tiny Abalanche or Embo can slight change.
[09:54:45] And then you're not really getting threatened by the puck and the spare breaker.
[09:54:49] You still need to respect the cows in the game.
[09:54:51] Yeah, sure, sure.
[09:54:53] It means Darren, I mean, what I forgot about it, like a Frick DK isn't bad against puck,
[09:54:57] but I don't like those two subs with DK.
[09:54:59] like if you play DK and you like Russian Blink,
[09:55:01] you wanna have some Sky Raph hood-wing snapfires.
[09:55:03] Because the NX, they don't really have follow damage.
[09:55:05] They're all going in or like,
[09:55:06] clock-axe are going in, but who's dealing the damage?
[09:55:09] So I don't want this guy to destroy Pock,
[09:55:12] or build an orchid, or you need to have to follow that.
[09:55:14] Only for Saddle.
[09:55:16] It's all things that I like this a lot.
[09:55:18] I think this is a high super good.
[09:55:21] Pock Phoenix are super good together,
[09:55:22] if you get on top of SF, that's also insane.
[09:55:25] And clock-axe, no damage.
[09:55:26] If they go in, you dive in, you drop an egg,
[09:55:29] and you're protecting that stuff.
[09:55:30] Yeah, and that's what's about the stability of their lane.
[09:55:33] Strong lanes, get the farming pattern.
[09:55:36] And when they're ready, they may
[09:55:37] come move and now have work.
[09:55:38] Because of the part of the scenics,
[09:55:39] they've got, if you want to be static and farmers,
[09:55:41] we won't try and kill the site.
[09:55:42] And we'll try and do this.
[09:55:44] Sure, they can't take version at 19 minutes.
[09:55:46] I did it last time.
[09:55:46] Sure, they can't take, they can't take time
[09:55:49] into, of course.
[09:55:49] But more like that version,
[09:55:50] I think they've utilized really nice
[09:55:51] in the last few games, but yeah, it's aggression.
[09:55:54] It's annoying.
[09:55:55] I think there's a slight time on them to some degree,
[09:55:58] but they have the tools to try and break this map.
[09:56:01] And then they go, oh no.
[09:56:02] Oh, they go to the tiny, them two.
[09:56:04] Pulse three, Phoenix.
[09:56:06] Like how?
[09:56:07] Why?
[09:56:08] No, be that how?
[09:56:09] I think, I mean, I, we all know what we think about tiny.
[09:56:13] And I agree, I think the Phoenix is awesome.
[09:56:15] I think it is super good against their heroes.
[09:56:17] My only question mark is how the lane goes,
[09:56:19] but if he does well in the lane,
[09:56:20] then I think he will be off to the races.
[09:56:22] And Whisper is also the single best core Phoenix in the world.
[09:56:25] He is a specialist on this hero as a ton of games on it.
[09:56:29] It's a hero who would pick even before it was good.
[09:56:31] And now that it is good, this is a great game for Phoenix.
[09:56:34] I think we might be in for the whisper show.
[09:56:36] Are you ready for some tiny trivia?
[09:56:38] Please can you guess the win rate of mid-tiny at 7-6?
[09:56:42] 30%.
[09:56:43] 28.
[09:56:44] It's 28.
[09:56:45] 5-7.
[09:56:46] We're going to take my guess.
[09:56:47] I knew you had 20 in mind.
[09:56:48] I said you'd have a correct answer.
[09:56:50] I've been in your four position, tiny guys.
[09:56:52] I need takers.
[09:56:53] I need a percent, 70.
[09:56:54] It's D3, 6, 7, it's 53%
[09:56:57] Oh, you ever shot that one a lot?
[09:56:59] I think that's right.
[09:57:01] Yeah, I'd like to see the top lane, I think like you said,
[09:57:04] I think it's a skill check between the Phoenix SP,
[09:57:07] like they're definitely weaker, like level one and two.
[09:57:09] If you can get to level three,
[09:57:10] and I see on Phoenix, you have a lot of plays on that lane.
[09:57:13] I will say that the end-ex relation
[09:57:15] like a stable game, like what's a needs to be very big in this game.
[09:57:19] And that's like the condition that I can see them winning
[09:57:21] on like a very big S-level of an ages.
[09:57:23] But overall, I really vibe with this heroic draft.
[09:57:26] Like the tucked Phoenix together,
[09:57:27] everyone's chilling, you're happy you drop some eggs.
[09:57:30] Ease.
[09:57:31] There's beautiful temper to it.
[09:57:32] The good execution, the consistent fighting,
[09:57:34] the helping each other out, but there's something scary
[09:57:37] about a box and something.
[09:57:39] You know, if you amp him up correctly,
[09:57:40] you don't die to an X plus coil combination.
[09:57:44] What really is there after that?
[09:57:47] No, I don't think there's much at all.
[09:57:47] I think Shadowfiend is,
[09:57:49] it's a great Shadowfiend game.
[09:57:50] It's a great Shadowfiend player,
[09:57:51] but finding his horrendous and heroic have a lot of tempo and craziness so I think
[09:57:56] heroic have done much better for themselves this game and I agree I think if
[09:57:59] Yannick is going to win, it's going to be the lots of show.
[09:58:02] Well you guys have said it. It was a similar thing to what he said in game two how Yannick's
[09:58:06] won that stability. They want to be able to drag out the game just a little bit longer for
[09:58:10] themselves and whilst they got it there, are they really going to be able to get it now against
[09:58:15] a phoenix? It feels like fighting off the two evils here loving the off-lane phoenix. Not so
[09:58:21] much the position 5 doesle, but yet next we're gonna have to overcome a lot more challenges
[09:58:25] for themselves in this best of 5. It is a game 3.
[09:58:28] the
[09:58:46] white the twisting turns that happened in the draft for game three it started off with
[09:58:51] our analyst in particular when hating on the dazzle loving the Phoenix pick
[09:58:56] hating the tiny pick.
[09:58:58] Avery, you agree with all of that?
[09:59:00] Do you feel like heroic got the better of these,
[09:59:03] the last pick scenario with the Phoenix versus the tiny?
[09:59:08] My emotions are spent.
[09:59:09] Those are rollercoaster of paint.
[09:59:11] I could not keep up with the volatility.
[09:59:13] I mean, you said it perfectly.
[09:59:16] The love and hate is sprawled across all 10 of these heroes.
[09:59:22] There's some, there's some spike on that paint.
[09:59:24] I don't know what some of these heroes did to those boys,
[09:59:26] but they did something in their pubs.
[09:59:28] Probably people playing them on their team,
[09:59:30] usually where that spike builds up.
[09:59:32] I liked the Phoenix Laspig.
[09:59:34] I think this Phoenix was a Gacha card.
[09:59:38] It is not a hero Yandex and deal with at all.
[09:59:40] None of their heroes do anything to this guy
[09:59:42] until you have like SFBKB or something,
[09:59:45] which is a long way away.
[09:59:46] And you do have the spearbreaker to cut through that.
[09:59:48] And I was the point of this pick.
[09:59:50] It is running into a lot of interference.
[09:59:53] So I have my doubts of how effective this breakers
[09:59:55] to be able to close the gap all the SF and mess with his BGB timing, but I do think the
[10:00:00] parking, the Phoenix look primed to do well this came in.
[10:00:04] The other two have to have a good lady face.
[10:00:07] I'm not a fan of the METITI, but there's a gene for it.
[10:00:10] I don't think this is that bad.
[10:00:12] The Oslo down, this might be, oh my god, leveling up both of those alongside the boots
[10:00:18] and it gets him out of there.
[10:00:19] He doesn't die, he doesn't give up first blood.
[10:00:22] It was all worth it, Avery. Boots first, level one bulldoze, but it's UMA who collects the
[10:00:28] first blood instead. All according to plan, I suppose. Not really. I mean, this will be
[10:00:38] a very weak level one for heroic offline. That's for sure. Phoenix, level one even if you
[10:00:44] get fire spirits. You know, it's not very good. They look war with no no ability that is useful
[10:00:50] in lane. I think that three bounty rooms are. So three bounty rooms plus first blood
[10:00:55] kind of worth the hear you're probably going to pull the early ways of this lane anyway.
[10:01:00] Very hard for breaker to interact with a lot of here. Let's get clock work destroys and
[10:01:04] shadowing in first destroys and have a launch destroys and you're going to be sacrificed
[10:01:09] no matter what it has sense and that's right. I think it's a very good ablanche game.
[10:01:14] I think have a launch ruins a lot of these heroes. If you can get this tiny off to the
[10:01:19] That's been a struggle so far this day.
[10:01:21] I don't disagree with the panel's take on Mid-Tiny,
[10:01:24] meaning very underwhelming, but I can see his spells
[10:01:28] having high impact here, even if he's having a rough time.
[10:01:30] Man, don't thank him really early.
[10:01:34] I mean, the fact that the human has gotten this link on Malik,
[10:01:39] and he's ramping up some damage.
[10:01:42] But Malik isn't even close to dying.
[10:01:47] And the dazzle's already gone. So it's a good timing from me. Yeah next to the dazzle is one creep off level two.
[10:01:54] And then you get shot away if it's in a very tough time to fall in like that.
[10:02:00] So a good little window to hit that. Normally dazzles really strongly laying its his axe.
[10:02:05] The ingame matchups swings, but the laying matchups very dazzled paper.
[10:02:08] So score it some extra kills here. Nice little find. If you always go back for stacks later with this duo,
[10:02:13] If the lane becomes too difficult, which it probably will, and it's dazzle-rezerous.
[10:02:17] Not a lot that lanes us over the long run.
[10:02:20] Yeah, frankly, I'm surprised socks are even landing right now.
[10:02:23] I'm surprised he isn't making sure to get that stock.
[10:02:26] I feel like this is just like, they got that kill on the dazzle, and that's great.
[10:02:30] But there's no way they can keep playing this lane out, right?
[10:02:34] Either pull the ways or you'll stack. Those are your options.
[10:02:39] two brewed over laying to enter for the melee dude.
[10:02:46] Well, I'm with you guys on the, uh, I love the Phoenix pickup as well.
[10:02:50] I have to a rough start though. Whisper still level one.
[10:02:54] Big three points in power though, so.
[10:02:58] One CS in two minutes. Not what you like to see.
[10:03:02] She goes all about getting fast, vessel.
[10:03:06] is the usual buildup. I do not want to see him lightest. Please, God. No lightest.
[10:03:14] He's getting solar experience, so they might be able to, it's so weird because that
[10:03:19] there heroes now they both require a level 3 because they have the whole level of the bulldoze.
[10:03:25] So he's charged. He can't do the greater batch. So they both need the experience. The
[10:03:30] Phoenix is more important because level 2 fires spirits is so much stronger than level 1,
[10:03:35] But even when he hits that, the alicore is not going to be much of a presence in lane and I actually think maybe this bulldoze level has screwed their lane so badly.
[10:03:45] I wasn't worth it.
[10:03:47] Definitely hurts your aggressive potential.
[10:03:50] I guess there was always a question how aggressive can you get early in the SF clock though?
[10:03:55] I mean I think once you have a level 3 you 100% can get aggressive.
[10:03:59] Yeah I agree with the old 3.
[10:04:01] but you can't get aggressive right now.
[10:04:06] You can also gain top here with the breaker.
[10:04:09] That's also some opportunity to cost in this,
[10:04:12] where you could just TP top even or gate.
[10:04:15] Just charge this SDRX.
[10:04:18] And even if they disturb you,
[10:04:19] that means they're getting poisoned touch on them.
[10:04:21] They're not the TP out, someone's getting linked.
[10:04:24] It's gonna be a rough time for them.
[10:04:25] They this is a very high pressure link for a rogue.
[10:04:28] They bring other heroes up here.
[10:04:29] You know, they're just trying to survive and get what they can for a mall account of it.
[10:04:34] It's a charge on the tiny right now. Not here. You can ever really connect on to a user's avalanche.
[10:04:40] See the big damage. Boom. Got him. It's some for the 1.3 second stun.
[10:04:46] Is it enough?
[10:04:49] You got no bash as long as you're dead.
[10:04:51] I like setting over there. Where's your bash is brother? Why aren't you bashy?
[10:04:56] You can set it up and have lunch on two hundred and you can't do this.
[10:05:03] I think you're just gonna have to need tips to kill a core.
[10:05:07] Oh my god man, now it's too much.
[10:05:11] So once this were worth the first blood, I think we can conclude it was not worth the first blood.
[10:05:17] No.
[10:05:18] That's one times it's better to just die.
[10:05:21] Save your game.
[10:05:23] This charging the SF bottom. The clock showing mid does create an opening.
[10:05:27] This bottom line might be able to take advantage of it here. Even without the bash.
[10:05:31] It takes a couple of shots from the tower and fire spirits is on cooldown.
[10:05:34] It's a really awkward timing because this does look like a dream scenario to go for the dive
[10:05:39] of the fire spirits is on cooldown and you just want to have back to on the other car.
[10:05:42] So he doesn't do what he damaged. So you don't actually have the damage to kill Watson in this
[10:05:48] 1v2. Meanwhile, now it gets a kill on KJ. That's just not supposed to happen in this matchup.
[10:05:54] You haven't noticed on it, too. Socks that's just outplaying it up here. He's pretty mad.
[10:05:59] Well, Whisper, Whisper in trouble. He's gonna try to do what damage you can. Maybe Watson actually dies here.
[10:06:06] It's gonna close off, but they do manage to get both of the kills out of this. He's back. He's all for you.
[10:06:13] He's back. He is giant normiss.
[10:06:18] Absolutely, three-cellies early kills, but now he is styling.
[10:06:22] Oh, you might as soon as the ball trade off here, and he was really chasing after Sox,
[10:06:26] that does get a good drain on the mallik.
[10:06:28] The bolt of them will get low, neither will it.
[10:06:30] He got his career, man.
[10:06:33] That was a full glove, a ace on that SF career, bought up.
[10:06:39] They kill for them.
[10:06:41] KJ just played an aggressive, like he usually does.
[10:06:43] It's just not gonna work out, playing one B2 on the side with Dazzle.
[10:06:46] I only put on the side as dazzle of your chasing deal with the outer poison touch, but if you call these two-one ones, it's a mega awkward.
[10:06:55] This lane should have gone better for her, so the end-exhaVix attracted you to my opinion more than expected off of this offline with the axe, which is nice to them.
[10:07:05] And this tiny is doing super well.
[10:07:08] highest net worth here all the game surprisingly though the CS would not reflect it
[10:07:16] Charge after Watson
[10:07:18] Malady not in a position to get a great hogs here now gets out the Cogs fire spirits on the two of them though
[10:07:24] Whisper he's gonna take out here, but he's gonna get a lot of damage done, but Watson and Malony are gonna be a little over the final commitment though
[10:07:30] Can they finish off these heroes? Oh, no Watson he turns around kissing with the race. He's not going to die 5 HP no way
[10:07:38] What a beast.
[10:07:40] So many little things on this bottom lane could have gone different for heroic.
[10:07:45] Oh my god, they look a malady, making a run for the wisdom shrine.
[10:07:48] I don't think he gets me.
[10:07:49] Oh yeah, Pucks get a TP.
[10:07:50] That's a Regenium Republic too, so wisely backs off.
[10:07:54] That's a huge win per Yenix since bottom lane.
[10:07:56] Keep the S of alive.
[10:07:57] That's massive.
[10:07:59] I actually think they need to just give this to the whisper,
[10:08:03] because this bottom lane has not gone well enough.
[10:08:05] They need to get whispered to six.
[10:08:07] is a life and gets the experience for both of these kills.
[10:08:13] I feel like Whisperer can just instant off
[10:08:15] many years to try and get more information, then he just ends up diving into the claw core.
[10:08:20] Yeah that's kind of worst case scenario for him.
[10:08:22] Like Phoenix is fighting its claw because you just fire spirit him and he can't hit the
[10:08:26] claw because it's pretty sad.
[10:08:27] But again, this lineup for Yendys is all about running inner appearance for the S.O.T.
[10:08:31] I've got enough of the quality, cog, stopped Whisperer from his dive.
[10:08:36] he's dive, he kind of flowed down though that whisper will be able to deliver the damage
[10:08:42] and that kill will push him almost over the line to level 6 with the next creeper he'll
[10:08:47] have.
[10:08:48] He's egg finally.
[10:08:49] Meem off the corruption to your junior.
[10:08:51] Aveline jumping a second year, let's see if he could protect his shatter demon, Soxa,
[10:08:55] so low, knocked it yet, time long.
[10:08:57] Now he's going to be in some trouble, waiting ripped up to the high ground, an orb jump
[10:09:00] way, but the poison will tick him out.
[10:09:04] Sox onus, really.
[10:09:05] Yeah, I'm really finding some clutch openings with the shattered.
[10:09:08] You're really not a super-struck level 1-2-3-year-old man.
[10:09:13] That's nice, so I'm going to go to the charge on Malax, Malax,
[10:09:16] looking in the big trouble here.
[10:09:18] Keep these going to come in, though, from Sherry Jr.
[10:09:20] Who's any other hero they might have made that dime,
[10:09:22] but the mid-tiny is a piece.
[10:09:24] The toss back allows a cooling blade to land from Malax.
[10:09:29] Do you use egg bottom to get the return kill?
[10:09:34] Something, some more earned charges for us, we really get this tower.
[10:09:36] I think that was inevitable.
[10:09:38] Yeah, Egg is going to be incredibly strong in his game.
[10:09:41] I think every Egg, you should be looking for some sort of kill.
[10:09:44] And he is going to finish up vessel here too.
[10:09:46] So this Phoenix is all like, not the smooth start you wanted in this game, but his hero is just so good here
[10:09:51] in the matchups. It's not going to matter in terms of what he can look for.
[10:09:57] Little seven of us as well is pretty big for this hero with the max fire spirits getting the cool down
[10:10:01] and the damage up.
[10:10:04] Do you speak thread all the best?
[10:10:06] Yeah, next continued to try and whether the early game storm here.
[10:10:15] Soxa disruption.
[10:10:17] I remember a bit of time.
[10:10:19] Once again, he survives.
[10:10:21] I mean, despite the kill thread being there,
[10:10:24] for both heroic sidelines,
[10:10:27] only five kills netted so far compared to the 9 of Yandex.
[10:10:32] Chase that, and if your charge is coming in, now he is going to be able to get the
[10:10:36] Cogs catching the dazzle, to answer to the shallow grave.
[10:10:39] He buys it up times, do some damage, and he'll just be a support trade off here.
[10:10:43] Now, Ty Long, trying to pressure Watson, Watson, not forced into a recquim.
[10:10:47] It's all good, Malik, with the haste, and though it's trying to chase down here,
[10:10:51] look over the creep wave coming in. There was a little chance there, but he respects Ty Long
[10:10:56] and the Pucks present.
[10:10:58] It enables the P.X.
[10:11:00] There you got to respect the Firestroots vessel in this game.
[10:11:03] It's just going to destroy some of these high-age people's.
[10:11:07] Whizner, come on now.
[10:11:10] You can't be getting back to Gullham's smash.
[10:11:18] All right.
[10:11:19] Hey, you got it.
[10:11:20] Yetics need to find some supportalties here.
[10:11:23] Early foreign failure.
[10:11:25] why not be able to hold it down to do some ancient stocks or something to clear those
[10:11:30] might help socks I get to is
[10:11:34] Malincoin for the homodom bill so he can do it but it just takes
[10:11:41] takes a bit and probably just want to continue the farm other areas
[10:11:46] I do not expect the index to make aggressive moves, do a lot of kind of wants to get tiny
[10:12:00] blink and let the SF farm and then maybe punish Curok going into them, it's a turn around potential.
[10:12:07] But it's pretty hard to go into Curok here.
[10:12:10] So, I'm going to get charged the Phoenix or Putton TP and just trying to turn that play,
[10:12:15] the other here out and then you're just locked in a really bad teamfight. So you kind of just want to play the stack game,
[10:12:21] you know, get your helmet on the axe, get some more items on the SF, let her come into you,
[10:12:26] take some defensive fights. They didn't pretty good about it so far early. And now they have
[10:12:32] demonic purge, still a bit of ways on the hook shot, but demonic purges can be a pretty nice tool against
[10:12:39] still spirit breaker and the razor of the skin.
[10:12:44] Been looking at this Phoenix for a while with the Blink dagger picked up on
[10:12:47] Sherrigine, or they were hoping Whisper would put himself on a position.
[10:12:51] Now they're gonna try and chase after him.
[10:12:54] This little play.
[10:12:58] Always a risky target, is tempting because he's low, but he can always make his
[10:13:02] 10-day charges.
[10:13:03] He's got a healing load and said he keeps any of those things off, he will live, but
[10:13:06] Instead, 100 to 0 as the avalanche makes the chains done impossible to get any of those
[10:13:12] things off.
[10:13:13] Coil on the top lane, chasing after offlaners on both sides, TP-Wave, and that's going
[10:13:17] to be denied by the charge in from the Alicore.
[10:13:20] That's a TP from him to secure that.
[10:13:23] Something to try and help this puck start to make a presence in this game.
[10:13:27] But a bigger kill from index taking this piece out gives it a lot of opportunity for
[10:13:33] and then now they can get some.
[10:13:35] These attack damage on this turn one.
[10:13:37] Back up here, the Phoenix TP back in mid, but he's still not finding a lot here.
[10:13:45] Sometimes we can just see this Phoenix still a lot of control.
[10:13:47] This is being controlled pretty nicely here from the index.
[10:13:51] Ah, they block out his ancient camp too.
[10:13:54] Wispers not happy.
[10:13:57] the
[10:14:05] and love to just have some charges
[10:14:07] connect and just dive in vessel fire spirit a getting a role that's a kill every time
[10:14:10] and I and every team fight as long as you get fire spirit on the S.F.
[10:14:14] It's probably a free egg
[10:14:16] yeah pretty much
[10:14:19] easy only accurate
[10:14:21] this game honestly. And even then even if even if he gets BKB later if you can
[10:14:27] egg, you zone some heroes if the charge can connect but yes that's the big
[10:14:31] concern here for you. You need these heroes to go in and create the wall that
[10:14:36] will not let this breaker punch through between the clockwork, the axe, the
[10:14:40] lot of purge. They need to maintain the gap between razor break or
[10:14:45] fucking, there's a big shot of him.
[10:14:48] Keep Watson healthy, it's a name of the game.
[10:14:53] Spite-lanking in kills because heroic
[10:14:56] has the potential to do so much with these side-lain duels
[10:15:01] that they've got the threat they have to put down.
[10:15:04] Does mean that Yandex is grouped up more,
[10:15:06] so the result is the net worth is pretty even.
[10:15:09] In fact, the win percent is even as well.
[10:15:13] But of course you guys disagree if you think it's a little bit different than that you can always check out
[10:15:18] Polymarket the official prediction market for last
[10:15:24] Here comes that charge on wants and with the deep river ward
[10:15:30] Dive on to the razor is gonna get that kill. They have to get this SF turn around here
[10:15:34] It's gonna be deep dive forward the TPs are already coming in from the Andex
[10:15:38] What's a happy sound though?
[10:15:41] Very likely to die here just rushing goes out for a little bit and whisper it off a good egg here.
[10:15:45] It's going to be a totally die, and it gets done through!
[10:15:48] Oh, the SF finally goes down, but who gives a damn heroic?
[10:15:54] Got ruined as Kira Jr.
[10:15:57] Follows through off of Malady's hook shot with an avalanche that covered the entirety of heroic.
[10:16:03] that
[10:16:06] was so damn beautiful in the end it just clumps her
[10:16:09] rook in there if whispered decided to pop the egg he had a moment he
[10:16:13] could have popped it
[10:16:15] but it did look as if he needed to
[10:16:18] is trying to hold it a little longer right here not on the right
[10:16:21] there
[10:16:21] now he had a chance but
[10:16:24] he just didn't really see these other stones come into the
[10:16:26] tree line they going so deep there backfires on
[10:16:29] the road because they don't have as much vision to play around with
[10:16:32] these clockwork players are doing a lot for Yandex, they bring their heroes and they get
[10:16:36] the cleanup, that's a very different fight as that egg goes on.
[10:16:40] They are close on these margins.
[10:16:43] That is the old top of the O, now the avalanche.
[10:16:48] In trouble, the puck trying to bail them out here, they are definitely dead.
[10:16:51] Watson is going to join in on this.
[10:16:53] High lung, this is going to be a little spicy here.
[10:16:55] He's got an orb up on second.
[10:16:57] Faceship, we'll be able to jump to it.
[10:16:58] Meanwhile, the body purge on U.S.
[10:17:00] You must not feel in quite comfortable.
[10:17:01] It's going to be toss back into the Rekwim.
[10:17:03] The outlands covering them as well.
[10:17:05] Good save on the shallow grave.
[10:17:06] The nice.
[10:17:06] The hex goes out there from the dazzle trying to keep the
[10:17:09] round the line.
[10:17:10] You must still up their healing up.
[10:17:12] Roach on popped out to kill socks real quick.
[10:17:14] And now here comes Whisper.
[10:17:15] I call them.
[10:17:16] Immediately out from that like battle.
[10:17:17] And then again, you must so low.
[10:17:20] Whisper continues the chase with the charge coming out.
[10:17:23] Balak will be right.
[10:17:24] I'm a neutral.
[10:17:25] It's funny.
[10:17:26] Tim draw the aggro.
[10:17:28] Whisper will pop the egg.
[10:17:29] just to ensure that they finally get a successful team fight on
[10:17:34] heroic. They just run it back.
[10:17:36] That fight was almost the disaster. Very clutch great.
[10:17:39] Tommy from KJ salvages that entire change.
[10:17:42] Getting baited in a little bit by the puck. The stuns don't connect. They're going to kill in the end.
[10:17:46] But they, that's what they get. Socks are gets killed by roach.
[10:17:50] Something pissed him off.
[10:17:52] And this here at Juno says, you want to link my boy?
[10:17:55] Yeah, you can link him. Get in there.
[10:17:59] He'd bash them in your head.
[10:18:00] He just comes out kill socks, he'll be back.
[10:18:03] So I've done my job.
[10:18:06] Man, six, six plays from KJ and that one.
[10:18:09] Like to get up the old times to get the shot aggraved,
[10:18:11] then to hit the poison touch on Malik,
[10:18:12] to hex him up, to stop the killing breath,
[10:18:15] blade from killing the razor.
[10:18:17] That perfect fight from him.
[10:18:18] If they had the Phoenix there, when that coil went out,
[10:18:21] again, that's, you could see glimpses of how
[10:18:25] a young X might just get wiped in these fights
[10:18:26] if it all comes together for a roe.
[10:18:28] but Yandex have kind of thrown them off of the tempo in this game.
[10:18:31] Feels... it doesn't feel like heroic art making the connections as smoothly.
[10:18:35] It's a bit disdointed.
[10:18:37] You know, they have two or three years that not all five.
[10:18:38] They have some of the old's going up and not all of them.
[10:18:41] It's just not all coming together and I think it's Yandex.
[10:18:44] You kind of control the case right now.
[10:18:45] Look, we don't have to talk with you.
[10:18:47] That's something.
[10:18:49] I, I, I, J, didn't think Yandex have played a pretty solid defense of game early.
[10:18:54] I think this game could look a lot more special.
[10:18:56] and
[10:19:02] a little bit of vision there
[10:19:06] ensures that he will also die so that is a killing spree so nice of a pickup that was 600 plus gold for
[10:19:11] you know off that can use the rest of the storm farm ups and you'll
[10:19:16] that's pretty big for him just fish is me only your nia's a thousand gold to play with
[10:19:20] level 12
[10:19:22] It's razor is still pretty fat, and honestly, this razor SF matchup is, like SF is SF.
[10:19:30] This is always going to be in same liking, but I think this is one of the heroes that can kind
[10:19:34] of take it to the SF and the liking because you can go refresher beginning and just get on top of
[10:19:39] them. Especially if you have some AC build or something and you can survive some of the physical
[10:19:44] you have stuns that can go into the SF you give me, it can build up pretty quickly there.
[10:19:48] It's not a good matchup for Razor, but very few things are a good matchup against this
[10:19:53] SF and the ultra-late and what is played. I mean like things like Paces for
[10:19:58] Aurelio.
[10:19:59] The hell's playing Paces for Aurelio.
[10:20:01] What do you mean? We've seen plenty of them.
[10:20:05] It's the ultra-late play. I mean, Kronos here is good. I don't know about the time
[10:20:11] though. You can do that's part of the issue. There's a pipe for the axe of the orb.
[10:20:16] I'm wondering how pre-enix it they are just
[10:20:19] Punching it, you know, you bring that up time zone with SF sounds pretty sick though cool down with us on the shadow raises
[10:20:27] Oh man, combine that with the shard where you hit enemy heroes and it reduces the cooldown
[10:20:33] Holy Giga raise
[10:20:36] That's cuz you might say
[10:20:39] The Giga raise go
[10:20:41] a
[10:20:43] u do that but with Rubik stolen
[10:20:46] shall we have already seen now on in under a time zone i don't think we see that
[10:20:51] well that is true but but with a Rubik one you don't even necessarily meet the
[10:20:56] nobody the time zone either giga raise
[10:21:01] okay and damage on this puck right now so we're going to change the fight
[10:21:06] Oh my god, he has the lightest Q to bomb the dude, give me out of here.
[10:21:11] Wait, who?
[10:21:13] Whisper.
[10:21:15] No.
[10:21:16] I knew he was gonna do this eventually in this game.
[10:21:19] Hey, this cannot be good.
[10:21:21] There's no one in this is good.
[10:21:23] Third item, what is the point?
[10:21:26] I don't actually like it more if you just went at first.
[10:21:28] Yeah.
[10:21:29] You know, my lane got so rude.
[10:21:30] I'm trying to buy this.
[10:21:31] I don't care.
[10:21:32] Full pub mentality.
[10:21:33] Did this?
[10:21:34] What does this do?
[10:21:35] Why?
[10:21:37] It used to be great on this hero because I think the levels were all true.
[10:21:40] This is for sure.
[10:21:41] Bality. Oh, why?
[10:21:43] Oh, he just did him dirty with that one.
[10:21:47] You come on, man.
[10:21:49] That's a legal right there.
[10:21:52] The fact that Wissipper was kind of set up for it, and they rotated heroes, and he still got it.
[10:22:00] I will say that the confidence to do that is not entirely misplaced because
[10:22:05] Cogs is just so good to see. Yeah, no, no, there's such an amazing Cogs
[10:22:10] gave it ruins all of her own side of it. So I kind of understand going for that.
[10:22:17] If you just get there first you put the Cogs who actually gets into that.
[10:22:21] Try it. It's only really popular already though. There's no way Cog is going
[10:22:26] that start head is play for value.
[10:22:29] This puck does have an end damage.
[10:22:31] Remains.
[10:22:32] Smoke if they spawn any of these heroes up here.
[10:22:35] I'm looking as good a die.
[10:22:38] Early cleanse here from socks up,
[10:22:41] knowing that he's going to be targeted.
[10:22:43] And you'll absolutely be right about that.
[10:22:45] When the axe is now jumping into the middle of this one,
[10:22:47] this is getting really awkward.
[10:22:48] They're going to go after the dazzle.
[10:22:49] Chair Jr.
[10:22:50] desperate to keep the away.
[10:22:51] They have to damage with the end damage.
[10:22:52] They just barely have enough.
[10:22:54] enough, meanwhile slow down to both Malik and Soxa, for you to try and run down both of them.
[10:23:00] Going after Soxa, the pipe will not save him a double kill from Whisperer.
[10:23:07] Man, he was taking, I'll say that.
[10:23:11] For a shatterty, it takes forever to kill.
[10:23:16] Plent's soul request pipe, they do save Hado.
[10:23:19] mentioning as the BKV flies out with a razor as is enough to force your roof you don't do it really fast this one
[10:23:25] They won't the extra kill here
[10:23:29] It cogs instantly countered no spare breaker no Phoenix nobody can need close to this man. I need BKVs
[10:23:41] So no rush. I this is a pretty bad rush on it for
[10:23:44] Kind of the downside of a fight like that you're unable to capitalize object the wise
[10:23:47] But there is the being exploited there is the team fight capitalization
[10:23:52] He actually got it a little faster than I then I thought this is not the worst timing
[10:24:03] I still not a fan
[10:24:07] Yeah, but I will not a fan of
[10:24:10] That's a lot of things.
[10:24:12] Adlands, you know.
[10:24:14] He's got the arch game.
[10:24:15] We're going to stop the run.
[10:24:16] They've got the Asian now in trouble.
[10:24:18] They focused down the eighth though.
[10:24:20] Not in a fire sphere.
[10:24:21] It's not on these heroes.
[10:24:22] They're calling Blake to chop down the smearpraker.
[10:24:24] Didn't the action movement speed to go on to KJ of third kill.
[10:24:26] It was a close call there for a second with a little tumble.
[10:24:29] That Theo La Chore almost tripped up the Andex.
[10:24:32] But they give the execution to get so much more than that.
[10:24:35] Full support on top of a Phoenix set.
[10:24:37] And just outside of the Rochon pit.
[10:24:39] kind of crazy play to make they were very close to us that became even
[10:24:43] opposite to just go for that without it. If they get hit by fire
[10:24:45] shirts before that it goes off that's an absolute
[10:24:47] size. They are fast on the trigger. Their fear it's got
[10:24:51] thrown a beautiful charge to stop that wreck. We
[10:24:54] give you time to get it off but not in a time to get those
[10:24:58] fire spirits down on everybody. So all teams just
[10:25:01] able to kill and say. And now it's the good thing I
[10:25:06] I bought hand of mine.
[10:25:07] He's gone.
[10:25:08] I guess so.
[10:25:09] Had the charge is taken.
[10:25:12] Almost up to two.
[10:25:12] He's got to use it fast.
[10:25:15] Oh no.
[10:25:15] I don't know if I can.
[10:25:16] I'll get there.
[10:25:17] Really?
[10:25:18] He's enjoying the kill.
[10:25:20] Got to go, my just.
[10:25:21] You don't want to have the double
[10:25:23] mightest charge of shame.
[10:25:25] Brother.
[10:25:26] No.
[10:25:26] Not like this.
[10:25:27] One, one, two, three, four, go.
[10:25:34] You're some lightens.
[10:25:35] Please eight.
[10:25:37] Now it's somebody who's the Mario.
[10:25:39] There we go.
[10:25:40] There we go.
[10:25:41] 10 wasted seconds.
[10:25:43] The Queen's just losing his mind.
[10:25:45] The math on this hand, the mightest was bad
[10:25:47] if you were using it off cooldown.
[10:25:49] Now, it's even worse.
[10:25:51] Somewhere, somewhere Mr.
[10:25:53] mightest is crying golden tears right now.
[10:25:56] The Macho efficiency.
[10:25:57] There's the SFBKB.
[10:26:00] So he has ages and BKB to play with.
[10:26:03] This is where the sign of the scary.
[10:26:05] There's a lot to protect him, a lot to bail the SFL,
[10:26:08] and now he has two items that give him immunity in the fight.
[10:26:13] Such a tough target for the world to deal with.
[10:26:18] Have to be very smart about how you take fights.
[10:26:21] And also to know, title one, A, of this bird here.
[10:26:25] You're a fan of this. This seems too defensive for my taste.
[10:26:29] the
[10:26:34] yeah, I am inclined to agree with that
[10:26:39] I think I'm kind of trying to see the like he is afraid of avalanche
[10:26:45] There's no counterplay to that, except for any on-desk, right?
[10:26:50] Yes, the call to, I mean, either we need any to either, but you have to brave in this
[10:26:56] line.
[10:26:57] Now, I just don't know if, what's the bad threat in this game?
[10:27:04] They felt like he had to go for hand-disco for something that scales a bit harder here,
[10:27:09] even grabbing BGV, so you just need to believe BGV in the fight, and scale to survive
[10:27:14] This is a great click later.
[10:27:15] Well, okay, here's another point though.
[10:27:17] Who else brought lines on this team, like Whisper can't do it?
[10:27:21] You don't want you to do it, because he might just get the modded courage and loses his opportunity for the statically.
[10:27:26] You kind of need somebody else to start this engagement.
[10:27:28] It can't be this weird, right, Greed?
[10:27:30] Right?
[10:27:31] That's true.
[10:27:32] So, dear Jr.
[10:27:34] Does have some help.
[10:27:35] Oh, shot.
[10:27:36] On the KJ KJ.
[10:27:39] Oh, okay, maybe if I'm on the humor,
[10:27:41] gonna fight this out,
[10:27:42] trying to get the cool and blight on.
[10:27:43] I'm able to do so immediately.
[10:27:45] And now, little bit drained,
[10:27:47] there goes the egg,
[10:27:48] a good position to Yan Dex,
[10:27:49] you're gonna be bump back into a
[10:27:51] five-spirbbreaker,
[10:27:52] melody, you'll burn out,
[10:27:53] and it'll be two kills.
[10:27:54] During this age is timing to
[10:27:56] this BKB ages,
[10:27:57] they still have it for another two minutes.
[10:28:00] Are you wasn't there?
[10:28:01] But losing was fine,
[10:28:02] while they have it.
[10:28:04] On the A, I'm get some value.
[10:28:06] They're KJ baiting him in with some,
[10:28:08] healed the end perfect stun times for a rogue they get the full teamfight combination
[10:28:12] they've been looking for without the S if they're. That was a doomed fight. I think
[10:28:17] he had to smell like they were just going to get a pick off. It had pick off got extended
[10:28:21] a long way.
[10:28:26] When in fights with mightest I mean that is that's when in double out here.
[10:28:30] the
[10:28:38] show to us on the S.F. A little might actually complete this one was the time you can cancel
[10:28:40] it but the S.F. is looking so out there. It kind of poke at him. He'll try to keep running
[10:28:47] okay he's just gonna get run down by Watson. Okay Watson. Damn. He's shredded. He really did.
[10:28:54] I'm okay with that. Because you get to use up this problem. The units are always gonna respond
[10:28:59] I don't know anything. There is a socks that go on man, he's trying to force out the, well, I was gonna say, hey, but he knows Haker's on full bound.
[10:29:17] Got the call.
[10:29:19] Okay, now the Rufflinger's level.
[10:29:21] It's the Phoenix and Cowing Plates him down.
[10:29:23] You much doesn't activate the VKV and he goes for now, but a lot of damage is already been done.
[10:29:27] have been done, he's have to make a run for the call and point didn't get it. The heal was just enough.
[10:29:36] Kichie trying to blink his way out of here. Nice headshot.
[10:29:40] Then we'll get blinked in after, unfortunately, Yuma his TP will complete.
[10:29:48] Watson started to get aggressive. He just will expire here, but you got a lot of network out of this period.
[10:29:54] and another big Phoenix kill, no right going off, a Kaya Yasha painted in with the extra cast, time reduction.
[10:30:09] It does not feel as if a rope are as strong as that network chart looks.
[10:30:15] but
[10:30:17] yeah
[10:30:19] there's some weird thing going on this game where they're still finding a lot of farm on their cores, but
[10:30:25] which feels as if the end-exkept at jump and the SF goes in with Reckon, then the fight is going to be very one sided unless you
[10:30:32] somehow be able to Phoenix out, but yeah, remember grave is not a guaranteed bail out, axe in this game either.
[10:30:39] the scheme either. Maybe you need A on this company so some point. To me that's
[10:30:48] the bigger A on this scheme. That's the puck.
[10:30:58] 30 minute form enter. Silver edge for the SF loader for the axe.
[10:31:03] one left
[10:31:09] make it caught retreating from a storm enter
[10:31:15] and the ocans like he wants to complete this blank backwards okay nevermind stop mon approach
[10:31:17] rest in the team that close to him to get any damage on them
[10:31:20] the scary part of the game for the purpose of this asset is game close to twenty five
[10:31:25] that 25 pound is this
[10:31:29] especially with how well he's been able to land these raises and how much stun set of
[10:31:33] he has you're gonna go in triple race and one they're just gone it's gonna
[10:31:37] decimate this razor who doesn't have any sort of defensive armor or a
[10:31:41] vision item
[10:31:47] or we need to split push right now trying dodge this as if fight for the next
[10:31:51] Rochon can spawn in a minute year huge objective in this game
[10:31:57] Here's your little mark. No, the hook shot will land in the mark. Watson got himself stuck though on that blink forward
[10:32:05] He don't save down pine to shallow grain for now. Works his way around the columns tossed to get Watson out of that spot
[10:32:10] He got stuck on me while the call on time long managed to force the E on disk
[10:32:16] Colleen
[10:32:19] Okay, that's one way to pop the A on this but now you don't have to clean blade
[10:32:23] Man, you should know it's just, it's kind of a weird trade-off because now KJ is vastly
[10:32:31] enabled, right, it's like you get rid of one Save, but you make the other better.
[10:32:36] An interesting way to think about it, definitely worth a nothing attitude.
[10:32:43] One way to think about it.
[10:32:49] It's gonna probably jump bottom, the rest of Yandex,
[10:32:53] three-man smoke working their way from the right side of the map to the left.
[10:32:58] I don't know how much smoke you pee.
[10:33:00] But it's not gonna work out here in terms of timing for that Rochal,
[10:33:03] and as it's a two-minute spawn.
[10:33:06] Where she's gonna push it really close to the side change.
[10:33:10] It's gonna be like a 30-second differential.
[10:33:14] Now five-man smoke from her low, looking to...
[10:33:18] Rapper on the run. Does this porky pie see it? I think that he made it. I think he knows
[10:33:23] Yeah, he shows over his birds dying alive the burn showed up on the creep and now looking and X
[10:33:28] They're all set up for this one
[10:33:29] But the situation still managed to go forward linking over the clockwork clockwork already dead
[10:33:34] Tylong trying to help
[10:33:36] Requiem going up. Nope. Get's hit by bash now. He gets it off does a few amounts of damage kill is fairbreaker
[10:33:42] You look can't finish up lots and watch this too damn big man. He's doing too much damage
[10:33:48] What a beast.
[10:33:50] S-F is just untouchable.
[10:33:55] And the Phoenix is anything but, man,
[10:33:57] this is not been the free Phoenix game we were promised.
[10:34:02] Five thousand damage come after that SF.
[10:34:04] The egg stunned doesn't land on us a huge deal.
[10:34:06] It's just too far away.
[10:34:08] The first poor part of it looked pretty solid for heroic,
[10:34:11] but the index were definitely ready for that fight.
[10:34:13] That's scouting of the Dom Creek bottom.
[10:34:15] All in point, from Malik.
[10:34:17] and they're able to get a better formation deep in the fight.
[10:34:20] Almost dating heroic off of sackfice in his clock on the front line.
[10:34:25] And everything in this game is about shot of him.
[10:34:28] Now he almost doesn't matter what else happens in the fight,
[10:34:31] if SF gets it there, if he does way too much damage.
[10:34:37] And there's no armor.
[10:34:37] Nobody built armor.
[10:34:40] Except that she was on the Phoenix,
[10:34:41] and in theory the Phoenix is not,
[10:34:44] he's not necessarily building
[10:34:45] She was for the armor he's building for right spell. I have this low like he's not sitting there taking hot shots
[10:34:50] You're messing I think you need an AC on somebody here. I got really what I'd like to AC on the razor
[10:34:57] He's trying to go Satanic that'll also help you get Satanic a pressure territory. It's already going on
[10:35:02] And
[10:35:12] the rose for Yandex, rapidly coming up are the story of this series.
[10:35:18] The control the Yandex has managed to get over the rose on pit.
[10:35:26] consistently outside of that meepo game and this is Watson's time to strike
[10:35:32] he is stacked he's a little 25 has that shadow raised talent ages for four and a
[10:35:38] half minutes here can do some serious damage in the circle no direct answer for this
[10:35:44] guy now got BKB on whisper plus little 20 so he hits a spike on
[10:35:55] Sorents, but it feels like everybody else
[10:36:00] High-long
[10:36:02] He's good to go
[10:36:11] Well, how do you fill the end of this hand next line up too?
[10:36:13] Between the shadow demon
[10:36:15] He was also building Linkins as well as over on the axe. There's some rough flex
[10:36:21] But this raise your link which can be a big deal here
[10:36:23] or boots of barren on the clock might get you out as well.
[10:36:27] How did socks send out, man?
[10:36:29] You walked up and de-more did the exact spot.
[10:36:32] All right.
[10:36:34] Where's Beast?
[10:36:36] So he's got charged first, trouble.
[10:36:38] No way to commit all that.
[10:36:41] Especially with the reddit, rest of the Andex,
[10:36:43] cutting off, heroic.
[10:36:48] Oh man, Watson.
[10:36:49] and finishes Daniels and he got flares going on.
[10:36:53] Oh, what a ho-shot.
[10:36:55] That is a beauty happy to be KB and they will of course look at the time with the call going out whispers going to die as well.
[10:37:01] A B K B for what?
[10:37:03] The on this hasn't been effective.
[10:37:05] The B K B hasn't been effective.
[10:37:07] None of these defensive items are keeping heroic alive.
[10:37:11] They're just trying to survive.
[10:37:13] And you cannot survive these jumps.
[10:37:15] It's the power of the axe.
[10:37:17] to the body purged to for a and this is the right of the
[10:37:22] record of the
[10:37:24] the wrong direction
[10:37:26] tried to sneak one over on tie-long but the
[10:37:29] time long is too lucid for that
[10:37:32] respect to the
[10:37:34] you can feel for one second just land a raise that's enough to pop
[10:37:37] the
[10:37:40] the boat is so good zero for the extra damage attacks
[10:37:44] and
[10:37:51] what do you have in the tank here if you're a roi it's gonna be some crazy coi leg combo and somehow they keep people alive
[10:38:00] they need satanic on you
[10:38:03] he's very close couple hundred all
[10:38:06] I do not think you fight this without the satanic home
[10:38:12] Oh, this is a cool, I think.
[10:38:16] Done with the banner with the dazzle.
[10:38:20] The novel projection is just able to kill it.
[10:38:23] That's one way to deal with.
[10:38:27] All right, there's this mechanic and the eggs on the puck.
[10:38:31] So they have all this combo coming together.
[10:38:34] They get the right kind of egg.
[10:38:35] The right kind of coil, water damage is going to be in that area.
[10:38:39] And then if the Razer can get in there,
[10:38:43] survive through the hits from the SF,
[10:38:45] thanks to the safe panic,
[10:38:46] I think can win out a longer fight.
[10:38:51] You probably wish you seeing at his 25 though,
[10:38:53] the attacks being on that link would be
[10:38:55] massive in this fan plate.
[10:38:59] So you're missing that and you're missing refresh rate.
[10:39:01] If you had both of those, I would say
[10:39:04] it could maybe start just doing a little bit back
[10:39:07] The razor's way, but this is the asset domination, it's natural.
[10:39:11] You can blink him, he's just killing you while you're blinking.
[10:39:15] Too much burst.
[10:39:17] So we're still trying to stall this game out.
[10:39:19] You just will expire in a minute here.
[10:39:21] No real successful high ground for units.
[10:39:25] There are building up a lot of gold across the board.
[10:39:37] and
[10:39:48] is there any concern for the index side that the S.
[10:39:50] Like they put a lot of eggs in the SF basket that if they aren't able to
[10:39:56] win the game in this period of time that the S.F.
[10:39:59] Is enabled to
[10:40:01] you know kind of one be five
[10:40:04] Not too much, he's got to be very strong this game in that world.
[10:40:09] The heroic act that executed,
[10:40:11] crazily good to bring him down a fight.
[10:40:20] Like maybe you get a little less favorite of this razor
[10:40:23] that gets through a fathom on the avalanche toss back
[10:40:25] into the wreck, and DKV does go out with a call
[10:40:27] that's still there.
[10:40:28] There are too many answers.
[10:40:31] Once you get that Phoenix out of position,
[10:40:33] and
[10:40:36] can't even create their
[10:40:40] jumps are nasty and everybody has pkp now so you can say well why isn't just one egg there but if he
[10:40:41] exerted just eyes. Yeah
[10:40:50] there is discipline jumps from the end of there not giving a lot of turn out potential
[10:40:55] committing the bkv's committing the rights bills not letting anything go to chance
[10:41:03] is rocket flers have been annoying all he was
[10:41:14] well he was scouting about between that and a
[10:41:16] gong creep also it's been a significant
[10:41:19] decision to manage for pre-index this one
[10:41:21] at the flares doing good work in the
[10:41:26] cogs are doing good work just feels like
[10:41:28] this clockwork is all has been mega value
[10:41:30] and this game's stock is going to be charging forward into the corner of the map once again.
[10:41:36] They do have them kind of crowds and they're going to get some good fish not to jump
[10:41:39] back to man called lead things off both supports have been caught here comes the fall
[10:41:43] through shall Grant goes off right hit the coin plate misses to the heels but the
[10:41:47] both supports are still to get ripped apart and you might take it a ton of damage from
[10:41:51] shirts you're now here comes whisper but it's far too late for anything even if he was
[10:41:56] It's dang there, it wouldn't do anything.
[10:41:59] We're trying to make a run for it now,
[10:42:01] that has BKB, but like...
[10:42:04] Your dad no matter what, old truck kill for Wopsin, heroic.
[10:42:08] I can't do anything in this game, man.
[10:42:12] They're just getting changed on.
[10:42:13] Can't even get a link off.
[10:42:15] This tiny, just hurl and trees at your razor,
[10:42:17] or he gets to have HP drive.
[10:42:19] He can't even try and say can't get somebody.
[10:42:21] You're thinking about it, you get called
[10:42:23] one hit from the S if you're gone.
[10:42:26] the decision making. The owners that has been put on heroic to make calls about when to pop these defense of items when to commit the fight
[10:42:34] It's just impossible because the damage burst is so fast and you have all these blank stunners that can come out of the fog and
[10:42:40] That's it right now. You don't know where there's other chain stunners. So you don't want to pop even the agar earlier
[10:42:45] You don't want to pop your BTV on razor roll. Then you're just dead. Even if you pop it you're probably dead because they have spells that can go through
[10:42:53] Deal us on this time
[10:42:56] It's an axe call, and Havelage have just ruined the line.
[10:43:00] I did try to utilize to deal with the jump stunts, and it is not worth that ballman.
[10:43:10] Then you would have been forgiven, watching the early part of Game 2, thinking that this might be a heroic 3-0, but now, on the precipice of losing two games in a row,
[10:43:21] And also the way that they're losing this game,
[10:43:24] it's gotta be so demoralizing
[10:43:26] because it feels like heroic
[10:43:28] isn't playing particularly well.
[10:43:30] They can't seem to execute.
[10:43:31] I'm sure they also felt like,
[10:43:33] oh man, Whisper's gonna pop off on this feeling.
[10:43:35] This is gonna be a sick game.
[10:43:37] And he has done quite the opposite.
[10:43:42] Did you spend stifle?
[10:43:44] Like, there's just not a lot of openings
[10:43:46] that they've been able to cap off on.
[10:43:48] I think he had an explosive,
[10:43:49] very clean game here so far.
[10:43:51] Very disciplined, very constructed towards their win-condition.
[10:43:55] It didn't force a lot of bad plays.
[10:43:58] It means there's not a lot to capitalize on in terms of throwing.
[10:44:02] Just plain for the rest of time. It's slowly grinding there.
[10:44:05] They're way towards an invincibility threshold on Watson.
[10:44:10] Got a full link in them.
[10:44:12] Back back, working on a swift link, I mean,
[10:44:14] it's guys more gold than he knows what to do with and there's some more. How about a shard?
[10:44:18] why not put our cane run?
[10:44:23] I just asked you
[10:44:33] nobody wants to mess with this swagger feet right now
[10:44:37] no sir, no sir
[10:44:39] you just just wanted to swagger in it
[10:44:43] you know what's up?
[10:44:45] Anybody home?
[10:44:50] Well, there's not going to be anybody out there.
[10:44:52] Well, I'm a roker actually going to go for it.
[10:44:54] They're going to smoke out to try and contest Rochon.
[10:44:57] And they only go to got a very small window here with the mega creep
[10:45:00] pushing in.
[10:45:01] They're already pushing through the bottom lane right now.
[10:45:03] Should give the Andex a heads up.
[10:45:06] You don't want 25 on this clock with a million yards.
[10:45:09] While I'm there going to the avalanche and this is going to
[10:45:12] on high-long recon, make you my humine, trouble you, my god.
[10:45:17] Did not get off the BKB as soon as that Razor is dead without much damage being done.
[10:45:23] The fight is over, three dead on the side of heroic, and mega creeps are already hitting
[10:45:28] the tier 4's.
[10:45:30] Such a sick hook shot.
[10:45:31] From now, the hook shots, though, Razor and he dies within two seconds getting
[10:45:35] an actual into the us at the end.
[10:45:38] You had to be falling on a fight.
[10:45:41] It just knocked enough survivability in the tank.
[10:45:45] It was a playoff live-action.
[10:45:47] Got the call, the chance for a calling blade
[10:45:49] with the kind of damage that Watson's putting out.
[10:45:52] The heroes that have HP just get jumped by a single crit.
[10:45:58] You know, our spec these bids are the old carer.
[10:46:00] I'd say don't care.
[10:46:02] And don't don't care at all.
[10:46:03] What are you afraid of here, Zoleg?
[10:46:05] you
[10:46:11] got so many Lincoln skiers the defensive items for the set now
[10:46:16] the winged waker
[10:46:25] Okay, three quarters of his age be gone just like that. No age to be afraid of those the same time
[10:46:32] You got the job brave you know what a lot of work here. They're gonna call GG. Well, for Razor huh, and still trying to win the fight
[10:46:39] It comes out such a percent over there, but I mean, I think that gave you his over, but that's actually looks pretty good
[10:46:45] You know, it's a serious summary damage on the SF ones
[10:46:47] But he made her all just got out in the new world in that first 25 minutes.
[10:46:53] The back game can snowball for them if they have a better lane phase, but it goes back
[10:46:56] to the first flood, the bulldozer on the breaker, how rough that early lane went for the
[10:47:01] Phoenix.
[10:47:02] All these little defensive plays from the end, particularly socks on the top lane.
[10:47:05] He found extra kills on the dazzle, and a very tough lane.
[10:47:08] Built up the stacks as well for the axe.
[10:47:11] He did a lot of little things right in the first 15 minutes to just buy time and set his
[10:47:16] team up for success, and then the second waltz and second control you've never let it go.
[10:47:21] Well, two side lanes and not going as well as they were supposed to and another kind of quiet
[10:47:27] game for time long back to that game's four heroic where they got a problem feeling pretty
[10:47:33] demoralized going into this game for. Well, it's not all doom and gloom for them. There is still
[10:47:41] that backup of a game five they can push it and make it go to the distance but right now it
[10:47:46] feels like nothing is really breaking Yandex. You guys said if they needed a stable game,
[10:47:52] they would get the win. Well, they got the win even though there was a very chaotic game.
[10:47:56] Yeah, I mean, heroic. They picked the lineup and needs to go go go all gas, no breaks,
[10:48:00] and they were lots and lots of breaks and very little gas. They kind of ran into this team at
[10:48:04] some point after some messed up fights, and then I just felt like they have nothing left.
[10:48:08] Their heroes are very weird that we begin to dispel the SD kicks in, and eventually with all
[10:48:12] be shard and all of these tools and it comes a big problem. Yeah, I mean here
[10:48:17] work kind of played where you know they're going to be you say old gas going
[10:48:21] forward but they kind of have like a crush test dummy when they're just going
[10:48:23] into a brick wall then they just crumpled up into a self-American master's
[10:48:27] feet, but it was all, it was rough, they kind of had bad into this game. It was rough.
[10:48:33] Yeah, they kind of lost. Yeah, so, yeah. Like when you just look at what Yandex did,
[10:48:38] I think they had like a lot of better plays like just all around because when I
[10:48:42] and look at lots of heroic were doing.
[10:48:44] I just think they were like, caught slipping a bit,
[10:48:46] like they were a bit slow on some of their moves here.
[10:48:49] And then, because I expect like more from a lot of their lanes as well.
[10:48:52] Like even a strategy that I think a lot of their lanes
[10:48:54] like they didn't really go that nicely.
[10:48:56] But even here, I feel like it's for heroic.
[10:48:58] They get the caught work killed, but then
[10:48:58] Spirit Rick goes in, doesn't per speak, he gets done by a tiny,
[10:49:01] then he opens on onto a loads of salt.
[10:49:03] Kind of everyone's trusting each other,
[10:49:04] and then it doesn't really work out
[10:49:06] because it's small little mechanical blunders.
[10:49:08] So for heroic, they're making mistakes and food.
[10:49:10] Yandex, it is so scary how that play, right? Of course, we're probably going to
[10:49:14] hype up the clockwork later, Ron Axe as well having a stellar game, like the
[10:49:17] constant initiations, even the tiny, a hero is like a 28% win rate from the mid lane.
[10:49:22] In this game, stopping the spare breaker, repositioning the dabble, being just a
[10:49:26] nuisance, Yandex just outplayed them, producing this game.
[10:49:30] CJ, he claped this game. Like usually, you know, we don't see this hero do very well,
[10:49:35] but him together with Saksa, you know, you drop to the 7-8, you go and you get those
[10:49:39] in sequels like they did that very nice for me came to like the game play but I think
[10:49:43] also like what's the what's the might as about on Phoenix I don't like seeing it I can
[10:49:47] zoom in that's I don't I don't really understand I mean it's like I mean it's like I
[10:49:50] mean a core thing is weird because once you get the sheath is if you're not snowballing
[10:49:53] there's not an item that feels particularly powerful to buy that pressure I mean I don't
[10:49:57] think it's good but after playing some core Phoenix that's how it feels is like what
[10:50:02] am I what's buying here that does that much I agree almost anything is better but I
[10:50:06] I can't see why he's doing it because it feels like we can't fight them.
[10:50:09] We're talking about fighting for a long time, so I'm playing for like seven items.
[10:50:12] Now is that right? No, but I get where it's kind from.
[10:50:14] But this is where I think the heroic in the group stage.
[10:50:16] They were being critical in themselves, so I like a patience what they were doing.
[10:50:19] And then you see some of the moves that make him.
[10:50:21] And it's like we haven't seen these type of moves from heroic in the, you know,
[10:50:25] the win against thunder in the win they had in this best of five.
[10:50:28] And now we get to this game and we're like, what's happening?
[10:50:30] We're kind of like taking two steps back like they're moving on a forward path like they're improving,
[10:50:34] they're understanding each other, the drafts,
[10:50:36] getting better and this game like the draft feels weirder. The play feels like it's
[10:50:40] day one group stage are working. The inconsistency shining again and maybe is the best of
[10:50:44] five. Maybe is being in a studio, having to play like this one series, this one life
[10:50:49] find all that pressure hitting them because it's not the progression that we were seeing from
[10:50:53] this team. I do think there is some part of it where we do have to take it and be like,
[10:50:57] it is a very late best of five that they're playing at the moment for themselves considering
[10:51:02] when they came into the studio and the other thing is how many best of
[10:51:06] fives have a road really played as well and that isn't like to be said with any
[10:51:10] sort of shade. It's a genuine, this is a test of stamina. It always has been
[10:51:14] when we were going to put best of fives into the picture. To be honest though, I feel
[10:51:17] like that's a skill set like sure they haven't played that many different
[10:51:19] things in qualifier ones and that is definitely a many consider. But in terms of
[10:51:22] like exhaustion, it thinks like that like the annex is in the same situation and
[10:51:26] you knew that you're you're going to play after a best of five like to me that's
[10:51:29] part of the skill of the game as you prepare properly. You go to sleep late in
[10:51:32] enough, you sleep a long amount of hours, you can serve energy, and you go into the
[10:51:36] thing knowing like having the mental fortitude to play well. Because I agree with T that
[10:51:40] I think they are playing way worse than they did in the group stage. They're draft make
[10:51:43] no sense sometimes. And a lot of their play is just like very, very messy. Like I think
[10:51:47] at the start of the series, heroic look like they were playing much by the end of the
[10:51:50] end. And for me, the script is flipped completely. And yet, next is playing considerably better
[10:51:54] and heroic looks like I did lost. It feels like the narrative, where it's like after
[10:51:58] game when something's getting comfortable and they're not trying to evolve. Like in
[10:52:01] when it's like okay we'll just do it again go to the playbook. When you lose you have to communicate
[10:52:05] all your thoughts and mistakes what went wrong and like you really really try hard to make sure
[10:52:09] the next game's better. So maybe they just got very comfortable with the win and go and you know
[10:52:12] what we are good team we are going to progress in this place you know so it is just a turn of two
[10:52:17] teams but yeah we are going to see a couple of problems for her outside in these early clips where you
[10:52:22] know from their POV they had to clock and the tiny fighting at the top tier one as they initiate
[10:52:27] So they do about the fact that maybe the act and here is probably in play in time, right?
[10:52:33] But then they just keep in under the cover of that tier 2 and fully turn around the fight.
[10:52:37] Of course, the Croker helped out, the clock better, little hook that actually clipped the Phoenix that he was aiming for the pop.
[10:52:43] So yeah, I think Malik has a incredible series.
[10:52:45] He picked acts after seeing the dazzle as well.
[10:52:47] So he just dug from those graves for such an entire game, finishing 16-3 and 14.
[10:52:52] So Malik, the standing, like I said, give them a blink, give them the stun.
[10:52:56] He's going to be pretty good luck.
[10:52:58] No, and that is definitely the formula.
[10:53:00] And I think, Yann, after that game,
[10:53:01] I'm going to realize that we talked about how we wanted to see the draft change.
[10:53:04] And they have changed.
[10:53:04] And I'm going to massive coos to them for that, for identifying the problem.
[10:53:08] And adjusting properly for their own stuff.
[10:53:10] I don't even think it's so much countering,
[10:53:12] heroic heroes as much as it is.
[10:53:13] I don't think there's where our comfort.
[10:53:15] We're making this stuff that makes sense.
[10:53:16] Like, their first four heroes, we said it.
[10:53:17] They look really nice together.
[10:53:19] They compliment each other really well.
[10:53:20] They're just good here.
[10:53:21] Good solid heroes.
[10:53:22] They're going to play a good solid game.
[10:53:23] I think that's what Yann, Yann, Yann, Yann,
[10:53:24] next month's pick. Next up my stuff.
[10:53:26] Yeah, because I think also if you look at the drafts, you would expect heroic to be the
[10:53:29] ones that like go together and like clump up. You have often finished yours for a
[10:53:32] breaker. But if you look at the early like at the early game, Yandex, Watson was in
[10:53:35] like every single move that they needed. Like he was on every single active room where
[10:53:39] they needed him to be. If you look at the stats later off aeroic, they have like double
[10:53:43] digit deaths on whisper, double digit deaths on their stir break as well. So I just feel like
[10:53:47] you're getting outplayed when traditionally when I look at this team, they're super good when
[10:53:50] they have a draft that can go together and fight. But this time around, I just feel like
[10:53:54] if they didn't really make it happen.
[10:53:56] And then when they tried, they had sex
[10:53:57] and misexecution, we saw it in T-Sclip,
[10:53:59] suddenly, Malaga sounded like an ultra-kill quadruple dunk.
[10:54:02] Okay, now the game is actually hard.
[10:54:05] Yeah, it's a slippery slope.
[10:54:07] And I also like their stuff, like,
[10:54:08] they picked Azul, we all know, like,
[10:54:10] the heroes come at, like, they can, they can argue for it,
[10:54:12] but he really, like, you pick it,
[10:54:14] knowing they can counter-pick you with Axe, right?
[10:54:16] Like, even if you're a dazzle advocate, I think this is too early
[10:54:18] to pick it because the heroes don't have counters.
[10:54:20] And you pick Spearbucker into clock.
[10:54:22] Like, he is the Spearbucker accident.
[10:54:24] Exxon, what am I saying?
[10:54:26] Expert and he himself said it's a little sourcing and clockwork.
[10:54:29] Don't take it personally, it's just late.
[10:54:31] I don't, right?
[10:54:32] It's late at night, but I want to hype up someone else.
[10:54:34] Because we missed our Yandex.
[10:54:36] I mean, do we want to hype him up first or what?
[10:54:38] I don't know who we're going to give him a hype up.
[10:54:40] I'm going to tell you if you have time to say.
[10:54:41] Yandex clockwork, my boy, maladie.
[10:54:43] You guys watch after the interview, he gave, he was...
[10:54:47] Now he was styling in this game, because he called four of these guys a potato.
[10:54:51] Now look at this guy.
[10:54:52] I'm a down-over-backer.
[10:54:53] I'm a down-over-backer.
[10:54:54] I'm a down-over-backer.
[10:54:55] You're gonna get on the potatoes.
[10:54:56] All right.
[10:54:57] I can get him to the top.
[10:54:58] Yeah, I can get him to the top.
[10:54:59] I can get him to the top.
[10:55:00] I can get him to the top.
[10:55:01] Yeah, I can get him to the top.
[10:55:02] I can get him to the top.
[10:55:03] I can get him to the top.
[10:55:04] Look at him.
[10:55:05] Look at my bro.
[10:55:06] He's owning everything.
[10:55:07] Down bottom first play whisper.
[10:55:09] You know he wants to start again.
[10:55:10] Boom.
[10:55:11] He's there with the battery asshole.
[10:55:12] Can't sense the dive.
[10:55:13] Second clip.
[10:55:14] He's there with some trying to get a double hook.
[10:55:15] Yeah, or what it was, but my life one.
[10:55:17] Malady.
[10:55:18] Mm-hmm.
[10:55:19] Like, where is he?
[10:55:20] On the top of the deck.
[10:55:21] If you like that, send us a jab back.
[10:55:22] He shows him everything.
[10:55:24] Look at this guy.
[10:55:25] On five, my bro.
[10:55:26] Another clip.
[10:55:27] He don't stop.
[10:55:28] This guy, he don't miss.
[10:55:29] Okay.
[10:55:30] Excellent.
[10:55:31] From this guy.
[10:55:32] He is just knowing where he needs to be.
[10:55:33] How to punish, heroic.
[10:55:34] And that's the thing.
[10:55:35] You have a clock.
[10:55:36] You have an axe.
[10:55:37] You have multiple ways to destroy them.
[10:55:38] And then you scope one little crown.
[10:55:40] We can't first be KB.
[10:55:41] This variety is clear.
[10:55:43] Game.
[10:55:44] Oh, I'm just so, I'm genuinely so overwhelmed, but whatever, just I think of this
[10:55:54] battle.
[10:55:55] We should throw a pot soon.
[10:55:56] That was a great.
[10:55:57] Let him cook.
[10:55:58] Yeah, it was fantastic.
[10:55:59] That was a some way that I was going to segue to try and hype up.
[10:56:03] See Taylor with the tiny mid, because you guys said when a spirit brick it comes out.
[10:56:07] Natural transition from them is side lanes to mid lane.
[10:56:10] Tiny isn't necessarily something that is good at dodging that spirit breaker engaged, but I
[10:56:17] Still had a little bit of luck there
[10:56:20] Nope
[10:56:24] No, yep, I was like what's happening?
[10:56:27] Yeah, we've already seen it. We've already know the answers to this clip, but it's fine
[10:56:36] God, that is so pathetic
[10:56:40] No, but it's more the point of him dying.
[10:56:42] No, he's not that bad.
[10:56:43] I mean, he's still bulldozed, never one.
[10:56:45] It's not that bad.
[10:56:46] I'm not showing that it's the fastest.
[10:56:47] I mean, we went through the washrooms we didn't see it, but I heard it.
[10:56:50] So he's still bulldozed if I wanted to get in live.
[10:56:52] Oh, that's the most recent version.
[10:56:53] We're noeping the other things.
[10:56:55] The other things, yeah.
[10:56:56] Yeah, that's what he's doing.
[10:56:57] That's fine.
[10:56:58] Keep that up.
[10:56:59] I'm so hot.
[10:57:00] So am I.
[10:57:01] I have no idea what that clip was by the way.
[10:57:03] I just wiped it up with the production show that took.
[10:57:05] No.
[10:57:06] No.
[10:57:07] No, no.
[10:57:08] You don't even know the bass and then we can talk about the clip.
[10:57:11] You don't even do that?
[10:57:12] Nope.
[10:57:13] Nope.
[10:57:14] I don't wish they'd have that.
[10:57:16] Oh, we could talk about maybe some changes that need to come up
[10:57:19] from the side of a rope.
[10:57:20] We've already said it.
[10:57:20] The script has slipped and not really looked
[10:57:23] in like the team that they were.
[10:57:24] Game number one.
[10:57:26] We used scratch the head of a T.
[10:57:27] I'm saying that I didn't know how to bash.
[10:57:30] That's what I'm saying.
[10:57:31] What's your skill build on this fair breaker?
[10:57:33] Not that.
[10:57:34] OK, but what is it?
[10:57:35] because you're at the era of like the kind of sort of the spirit break.
[10:57:38] I basically just break it up.
[10:57:40] And that's resident in his house.
[10:57:41] Kind of one very complicated.
[10:57:42] Everyone listen up.
[10:57:43] This is this goes the maximum two points in bash.
[10:57:46] You want to max your charges early as possible.
[10:57:47] Because charge code is important.
[10:57:49] More charge, more bash, more happiness.
[10:57:51] If you max your bash, then you have lower or higher code under the charge.
[10:57:53] You're doing so much.
[10:57:54] Borders actually is higher value than bash.
[10:57:56] Because even in the bash that we're increased by high levels, the bash,
[10:57:58] the borders levels means you get in and out of the fight.
[10:58:00] So if you accidentally gets done, you're going to be better.
[10:58:02] So don't put more than two points in bash.
[10:58:04] max that charge, max that bulldoze, get a BKB as early as possible and throw your fist into
[10:58:08] the enemy core the entire time. Do not do the other shenanigans of this 434 stuff. Don't
[10:58:13] level bulldoze level 1 by misclicking or whatever. So there is some nuance to the hero. It's
[10:58:17] not that simple. I promise you. Some max charge. Thanks, Keesiel.
[10:58:22] Not better than. Thank you. Thank you.
[10:58:24] Perfect. I feel like that's a great note for us to end this breakdown of game number 3 because
[10:58:29] the night continues on.
[10:58:31] We all have to receive a game number four in this best
[10:58:34] of five for heroic in the end.
[11:03:36] Hey, I was not really expecting that.
[11:03:48] You probably won't either because other the Oceananigans going on right now, Blossom 6.
[11:03:53] It is now our fourth game in our second best of five after our first best of five.
[11:03:59] We're to five games.
[11:04:00] If I was to add that together really quickly, that would be nine and that's quick maths.
[11:04:04] But we're not doing it in more quick,
[11:04:05] but instead we're gonna do something way more fun.
[11:04:07] That's what the difference.
[11:04:09] Yeah, we had to play it before hand,
[11:04:12] where are the three of you guys?
[11:04:14] It had a player, we had that fun.
[11:04:16] But now we're moving on to a little bit more fun.
[11:04:17] I have no idea what to expect,
[11:04:19] so I'm playing along just like you guys.
[11:04:21] Production has put this all together for us.
[11:04:24] Thank you for production.
[11:04:25] I'm excited.
[11:04:26] Thank you for production and chat
[11:04:27] because they put in so much effort,
[11:04:29] of course not just today, but over the past few days as well.
[11:04:31] And we're going to wait, what?
[11:04:33] It's coming.
[11:04:34] Is it coming?
[11:04:35] Well, the blast logo retains it at the wrong angle.
[11:04:37] Okay.
[11:04:38] It's like, is it?
[11:04:39] All of the one out, there's an odd one out in all of these.
[11:04:42] And apparently it's really hard.
[11:04:44] And it could be anything.
[11:04:46] Well, then it's not.
[11:04:46] It's not just facing the wrong way.
[11:04:49] Okay.
[11:04:50] Is it nice to look facing the other way?
[11:04:52] Slada doesn't have legs.
[11:04:54] Couldn't it just be a super easy one
[11:04:56] and it's just a rinse or it's just one supposed to be hard?
[11:04:58] I did.
[11:04:58] I genuinely did.
[11:04:59] It needs to be a rinse.
[11:05:00] It's just a rinse.
[11:05:01] I'm going to need production.
[11:05:02] I'm blocking it.
[11:05:03] Oh, they look, drink.
[11:05:06] Well, then Zeus is also the old one out.
[11:05:08] No, correct. No, no, no, no, no, what we've said is correct.
[11:05:13] Yeah, this is...
[11:05:15] Hmm.
[11:05:16] I'm trying to think of it as like a name thing.
[11:05:18] Zeus is taller than the rest of them.
[11:05:20] Is he?
[11:05:21] I think it might just be this fake out on the model.
[11:05:24] I think I just take out too.
[11:05:25] Maybe.
[11:05:26] We're going to fake out.
[11:05:27] It's...
[11:05:28] This is the only one with green in his head.
[11:05:30] He's taller.
[11:05:31] He has no legs.
[11:05:32] It's a lot of fun.
[11:05:34] Do they know this?
[11:05:36] I thought it was a lot of fun.
[11:05:39] It's a lot of fun.
[11:05:41] I think it's the only one when no exposed skin.
[11:05:43] Clock is a bit competitively done.
[11:05:46] Ooh.
[11:05:47] I'm probably true.
[11:05:49] He's played fair about the distance of a night one.
[11:05:52] We all pick one here.
[11:05:54] I've never played Zeus.
[11:05:55] Wasn't asking.
[11:05:56] Good.
[11:05:57] Good.
[11:05:58] Um...
[11:05:59] Any hints?
[11:06:00] This seems tough.
[11:06:01] Tough. Yeah, can I get a tent these reduction? Huh? It's not slaughtered. It's not
[11:06:06] slaughtered. It's not slaughtered. It could be slaughtered. Oh, come on. Okay, wait hold. Huh?
[11:06:16] That's right. We all listen to T. I don't know if there's the only here. So the tunnel didn't listen.
[11:06:21] All these things. Those are the tunnels. That's true. Hey, guys, I think so. I don't know.
[11:06:25] But I think the wallwork is wearing a helmet. No one else has a helmet. Okay.
[11:06:29] Beast Master only here with summons. Oh, this is only here with face pain. Did we get a clue behind that to my epi cell authors?
[11:06:36] What's the clue?
[11:06:38] Okay, the clue is
[11:06:40] Flying. Beast Master's life. Okay, has wind here. Oh, it's a lot of the only one that doesn't have something with like a z-axis movement because you've got
[11:06:50] No, actually he goes
[11:06:54] So that's wrong. Did not ask. Okay
[11:06:59] flying? Yeah, because you got the jump from Zeus. You got the flying from, I mean, I thought it was
[11:07:06] a card card because Beastmaster has a flying hog. That's the best of the, I'm saying.
[11:07:10] No, I'm just trolling you.
[11:07:12] It has to be that, isn't it? What else could it be?
[11:07:16] I mean, this Beastmaster have a ability that, I mean, he has a hog that makes him fly.
[11:07:21] But this he himself. No, he doesn't fly.
[11:07:24] This is a lot of him. No, I mean, he does.
[11:07:26] It's hot, it's a bit hot on.
[11:07:31] I need to...
[11:07:36] I will refer to Chuck because we are on five-minute delay,
[11:07:40] and I hope someone in Chuck has the correct answer.
[11:07:43] We need to...
[11:07:44] If you get the answer correct, I will give to you a sub...
[11:07:47] So we will...
[11:07:49] It has to be...
[11:07:51] Some of it is vision.
[11:07:54] It's always heroes, and they get beats is the only hero that is in division.
[11:07:57] The only gets vision with his summons, everyone else gets vision with spells.
[11:08:00] Sure.
[11:08:01] So a beast master.
[11:08:02] No, because the work of flag is in division for a short time.
[11:08:05] Yeah, but we're saying beast master is the only one that doesn't give vision.
[11:08:09] But he's axe is in division.
[11:08:10] No one in chance help with me.
[11:08:11] I don't find it.
[11:08:13] And you have increased.
[11:08:14] Well, I'll be on delay.
[11:08:15] Here.
[11:08:16] I don't think we have.
[11:08:17] In increased vision, the night's talk of when he flies.
[11:08:23] Okay, so slaughter is the odd one out, but I think if I can get like flying vision or bigger vision
[11:08:30] I'm going to bring to it.
[11:08:31] I don't can be smashed.
[11:08:33] With...
[11:08:36] What?
[11:08:37] What?
[11:08:38] What did they get?
[11:08:39] What did they get?
[11:08:40] What did they get?
[11:08:41] Not vision.
[11:08:42] It's about night vision.
[11:08:45] Flying vision.
[11:08:46] Because it's the rocker player or the jetpack or whatever.
[11:08:49] Yeah, that's like an old source.
[11:08:50] But these bastards doesn't have flying vision.
[11:08:52] Not that doesn't have an ability that gives flying vision, but I read that from Twitch chat
[11:09:01] Is that right?
[11:09:03] My information from him. Oh my god. I'm gonna give someone a sub in Twitch chat. Oh, my daughter. I did his gifts this sub. How does B sub flying with no one's life from okay?
[11:09:11] Hold on, but that's it
[11:09:13] Hold on, I'm paying six. I'm paying nine for this. We did it. You're giving that person a sub?
[11:09:18] I've got a fucking process name. I've laid a T doesn't remember. I'm using my phone. We need to give them a shout-out
[11:09:23] Okay, I can't buy my own. Well, I'll bring a chicken name before you shout it out. No, I did it. Time for second one.
[11:09:28] Okay, we're time for a second one. I'm locking it. You're good. You guys just kind of cut the teeth a whole time. Right, right?
[11:09:36] I feel like I was pretty close with the Mario jump from Zip. Mario, super duper jump. One, get it. Okay.
[11:09:42] We got Warlock and Nigma face-and-s-boy, Disruptor and Toy.
[11:09:47] Alright guys, you got 6-5-50 in China to get it correct.
[11:09:50] Hurry up. The shoppers get only all that is in stone.
[11:09:53] Um, I hope one time fit, sure.
[11:09:57] I don't know why I can think of it.
[11:09:59] I think I can have another one.
[11:10:02] Oh my god, he's a genius.
[11:10:04] It's got to be that. It's got to be that. I'm not else going to fuss about it.
[11:10:07] Why is it taking so long? I'm trying to...
[11:10:09] So I'm gonna do with the ultimate. So it's not that it's not that it's not that I was thinking because I thought is it circular?
[11:10:14] Is it because Facebook's boy? It is the only one that has a rectangular if you take his time zone?
[11:10:20] We'll look for a real life. Yeah, we'll do it.
[11:10:23] Other's great life because the tentacle is a part of the title.
[11:10:27] Is it?
[11:10:28] I'm a...
[11:10:29] Do you know like someone in the crack-in?
[11:10:31] Why is this twitching?
[11:10:32] I'm trying to give this suck hurry up.
[11:10:35] Hey!
[11:10:37] I'm gonna go with the circles there.
[11:10:38] I'm fucked up!
[11:10:39] I- what? Who did he go to?
[11:10:41] I don't know.
[11:10:41] He promised us that only spell that that was your damage.
[11:10:44] Galator for his face.
[11:10:45] Oh, that's kind of good.
[11:10:46] All the others, the other damage.
[11:10:48] That's kind of good.
[11:10:49] Oh, if he's time zone voids,
[11:10:51] face is...
[11:10:52] Oh, if you've got the ultimate cooldown.
[11:10:54] The Sorovters that only double-digit cooldown,
[11:10:56] how low is the status from cooldown?
[11:10:58] That's good, maybe.
[11:11:00] It's close though.
[11:11:01] It's close.
[11:11:01] Uh, so what about the cooldown?
[11:11:02] I don't know, double-digit.
[11:11:03] Is it only one that blow him in it?
[11:11:05] It's not that long, it's a claw 100.
[11:11:08] It feels like it when I play against him.
[11:11:12] Someone has a long.
[11:11:14] Someone has a giga-high cooldown.
[11:11:15] That's it.
[11:11:16] It's two minute plus a.
[11:11:18] So, did I swear, I swear, like,
[11:11:20] wallets is like 300 and something seconds on each other.
[11:11:23] Not on my door to the top.
[11:11:25] I'm going to get rid of the inclination.
[11:11:30] It's less than two minutes.
[11:11:32] It's the only one that's less than two minutes.
[11:11:34] If it's level one. Yep. Is that correct?
[11:11:36] Is that correct?
[11:11:37] Oh my god.
[11:11:38] 6 pound 50 going towards Cap in July.
[11:11:42] He should be a cast or something. He really knows don't.
[11:11:45] Don't ask him out. He's more serious.
[11:11:47] It was the only ultimate level one that's below the game.
[11:11:51] Gift a sub.
[11:11:52] So basically.
[11:11:53] Oh no.
[11:11:54] What I said basically.
[11:11:55] There we go.
[11:11:56] How do you think this is up to someone?
[11:12:00] I'm just going to one type by it.
[11:12:02] No.
[11:12:03] You press cap. No, I just I don't know. That's a clap. Oh, well, that's a traffic grid. Maybe you can
[11:12:09] I hate for it again. I don't know the best of five for Oak and you have a shing. It didn't go ahead.
[11:12:14] I've seen his draft. I won't. Not yet. Do you have any predictions for drafts?
[11:12:18] I think heroic might pick some silly goose heroes. Let me go. Funk of think. Um, and if they do that, then I think it's a,
[11:12:25] without looking, can you predict he's gonna be fast back?
[11:12:28] 50-50 seconds.
[11:12:30] He's so good!
[11:12:32] He's the hose!
[11:12:33] What's happening in this best of five minutes?
[11:12:35] You guys are just gonna know what's hatching in this drop.
[11:12:37] Money for that segment.
[11:12:58] Yandex and heroic now approaching the beginning of game number 4.
[11:13:07] We had such a strong start from the broken game 1.
[11:13:10] Similar in game 2, where they couldn't close it out, and now it feels like so much
[11:13:14] has unraveled for them.
[11:13:16] At the same time, the ball started rolling for Yandex, and they only need to get a win
[11:13:21] here to be able to advance on and continue their run in Blast Lamb 6.
[11:13:25] So I do wonder now, having the first pick,
[11:13:28] how things might change out for themselves.
[11:13:30] The last time they had that first pick,
[11:13:32] it was game two and Mepo now moving all the way
[11:13:36] to a first phase band in their books.
[11:13:38] Yeah, Jan, X has said, okay,
[11:13:39] we think the only hero that Yalk and Wind with is Mepo,
[11:13:42] and so they're just banning it outright first days,
[11:13:44] because I don't think they would really pick Mepo
[11:13:46] on nine most likely.
[11:13:47] I think this is sort of just say,
[11:13:49] we're gonna ban it so we don't have to worry about it later.
[11:13:50] It's a pre-ban for sure.
[11:13:52] It's a cool concept. I honestly like the bands which is later on.
[11:13:57] Not so like there's a lot of ways to respect first pickers, of course.
[11:14:01] Maybe the Viper that you need to think about a lot more than other heroes and that
[11:14:04] regards. I mean, I want to still open.
[11:14:06] I was going to say it's still in the pool. That's calling the bluff. Right. That's what
[11:14:09] they opened out within that game too. And they had first pick and it's still there.
[11:14:12] I think we can buy for a negative effect. Why are they doing it like that?
[11:14:15] It might be trying to force a Viper Chantrade. True.
[11:14:18] I think Genics is also a 0% winner against Chandler, like 0-2-0-3 against Chandler.
[11:14:24] Do you want me to check is that was that a question in your voice?
[11:14:28] I think I'm right, but you cannot check.
[11:14:31] I'll check. I'll check if he is.
[11:14:33] But they are going to pick his eyes over.
[11:14:35] And which I think is fair because I don't think Rolick has a great answer for it.
[11:14:38] If they're best response.
[11:14:39] Oh, yeah.
[11:14:40] Oh my gosh.
[11:14:41] The only reason to hold the TA band would make any sense.
[11:14:44] Yeah.
[11:14:45] Do we take it out there to take it the Nigma here?
[11:14:47] And again, that game has been some time ago.
[11:14:50] We need to remember the fact that the Nigma was able to plan
[11:14:53] to do enemy jungle, he created some kills.
[11:14:55] There was a four-man black hole, which
[11:14:56] urged him, punching those other drafting problems,
[11:14:58] like picking us into the Viper.
[11:15:00] There's a lot more layering to it.
[11:15:01] Of course, the Nigma went to Viper here.
[11:15:04] But again, he found the lane, he made some moves.
[11:15:07] It was a trade, but I think it's the late to fix that.
[11:15:10] We really need to kind of mock into now for a rope,
[11:15:12] so they don't create the same problems.
[11:15:14] Yeah, no, I think that that is definitely the case like while this is weird
[11:15:19] It's not the end of the world like heroic and very easily build a draft and makes a ton of sense with an even though
[11:15:25] I think it's strange
[11:15:27] Me, I'm curious what the Chen as Chen has gone unbanned so far. That has a point. No, it won one one
[11:15:32] They've lost one game again. Oh, I was just one. Just one. All right. I'm having exaggerating in this boss. I'm
[11:15:38] I mean, I mean, at this point, I wouldn't rate the Chen that high anymore.
[11:15:42] I mean, obviously, Chen and I can work, but it is a super high overlap, especially when you would pick them very early back to back.
[11:15:49] Something I could see for heroic is also that the thing that doesn't just straight up have to go mid.
[11:15:54] You can flex it. You could pick a puck if it's left open. It seems like one of the better matches we have seen against Viper.
[11:15:59] Obviously, you don't beat the hero, but you get to play.
[11:16:01] You're doing what can still flex between one and three.
[11:16:04] Yeah. I'll be super okay with it.
[11:16:06] Yeah, it's definitely not bad. I would, I mean, I don't really really saw space in it because they just lost with it. But clearly not because the thickening thing again, I sure also know the force though. They don't seem too deterred by losses.
[11:16:16] I could still see Yandex pick up Chen and then Chen is very good with Viper. You get the Oros with this already, tanky guy.
[11:16:22] They're different with Viper though, it seem to be tanky, but he also dishes out a lot of damage. So he's like,
[11:16:27] The Kekeen is weird sort of deceptive way, where sometimes he does insane the easy
[11:16:30] other times he can never die, pending on if we have.
[11:16:33] He can be used to actually head into the attack speed slow, or if you can kill him early
[11:16:37] because, like I mentioned, the last time they played this here, it is very bad for behind.
[11:16:41] And so, Roy, I don't know if he could still just see one of you know, there are melee
[11:16:45] dudes with that just, they pair well with anigma if you are to lane with it, they're
[11:16:49] pay, pair well with anigma where to go mid and you can gangflow the hero, whether it's your,
[11:16:53] So your tiny, your task, I think, clock, maybe, I would say it's a little more
[11:16:57] of all the time, like, blindly out of phase, I mean, I want a few teams that end
[11:17:03] detains.
[11:17:04] Ancient operation.
[11:17:05] I'm not saying pick it out of phase, but maybe if they do take that task that
[11:17:09] tight, clock the body, the initiator, they can think about it, but no, there's no
[11:17:14] for the chance.
[11:17:15] Again, any ors, any resistances into Viper is going to help a lot, you can just kind of
[11:17:19] pick and choose the fights that you want.
[11:17:22] having creeps, the little watering repo when you have the little push back, just like dragging
[11:17:27] people away from the toxins stuff also can be little bit cute in some of the fights.
[11:17:32] Nigma, and chance, so you definitely want stuff that can spray down all the summons because
[11:17:38] there will be a whole lot of garbage running in. Underlord Kunker already banned, there's some
[11:17:41] of the big ones you think about. Didn't just toss Kajar up there here, drinking by these
[11:17:45] tasks with a jar, you then don't care, but I guess the problem with that logic is a nigma mid,
[11:17:50] So you're not really playing into the idlers, but in regards to what you described that's where I have those version one, but it might be a bit too basic.
[11:17:57] I mean you can play jar of laughter, you can do like some lame chasing, you can get real freaky with it if you want to.
[11:18:02] All right, I'm hearing you.
[11:18:06] I feel like you can hear me.
[11:18:07] Not jaros good, I think that's one.
[11:18:09] And it depends if you want to pick it here, I think you could also show,
[11:18:13] I think also like a timber down the line on like 18 is potentially insane.
[11:18:17] like all the summons just inside you have pure damage, who else is there.
[11:18:22] There's like Melon Man, Mr. Tite Hunter is also always very good.
[11:18:25] Melon Man is a lot of summons. Of course, I will prefer to have the come out on 18 if you're going to pick it here
[11:18:30] just inviting an or so unless you feel fine because yes, Viper who's going to break him,
[11:18:34] haha, so at before. Yeah, then for Yandex, you take the clock yourself, you can just run around the chin.
[11:18:40] Even, I think Baltu is historically a pretty good fun matchup into the chin,
[11:18:44] you can then follow him throughout the jungle, be annoying, give division.
[11:18:47] and I thought they'd give us the primal which it is very
[11:18:51] how to play Chen in that hero.
[11:18:53] You can do something in and it's just
[11:18:55] trample through that dead and they're like cool, what
[11:18:57] or is he providing any bull?
[11:18:59] No, it's good. And I like that they stick to getting
[11:19:01] Malik Blinkstone. Like they could have looked for something
[11:19:03] like the Timber again. They could pick some more
[11:19:05] scaling here, but I think screw that.
[11:19:07] Give Malik what's been working, right? Don't
[11:19:09] getting broke don't fix it. And I think this case
[11:19:11] definitely not broken, it does not need fixing.
[11:19:13] No, it's super good. I also will say it pairs well with
[11:19:15] If I put a tradition like a kind of a slower hero and I do think this hero can be played
[11:19:20] through quite easily.
[11:19:21] Whereas, primarily, he's very mobile, like he can cut waves easily, he can go to mid,
[11:19:25] he can have other people that come to him.
[11:19:27] Even now, I wouldn't mind if that pick up a task, it's one of the other heroes that I can
[11:19:30] use.
[11:19:31] I think it's not a hero that comes out of gyro.
[11:19:34] You can play drinking buddies because it's quite good with trample.
[11:19:37] It also sets yourself up where I think, of course, Farcans have pioneered this, but changing
[11:19:42] your lanes, where's the chin going? You can't easily just put the chin as a five
[11:19:46] for playing in the off lane, right? So then you release the primal lane, but then if there's
[11:19:50] a tusk in the five position, you're also going to have a good time there. So I think
[11:19:53] at least having primal off lane tusk five is like a double way to respect. But you know what,
[11:19:57] we think you can do some lane setup, but we're going to be prepared for it.
[11:20:00] Not to mention, I think when you have that Viper, and you want some catch from your
[11:20:04] form position, you want some dude who can set up on people who can start these fights and
[11:20:08] Tusk is a perfect candidate for that, especially against all these summons,
[11:20:12] vibrers and do super well against them early on, and the game needs to get to the
[11:20:15] eggs and a little more far before you can just kill all the summons, so having tusk
[11:20:20] and trying what a body for and being in there is very, very helpful, so the driver can actually
[11:20:23] spit and keep getting spells off. That's felt like we're moving towards the same script as before,
[11:20:29] which is, if the undics have again access to an ages that draw food into the same scary,
[11:20:34] primal is not to retake you go for bcb second item even refresh or third item
[11:20:38] then Viper we saw how, you know, Jarod unit utilized his toolkit
[11:20:43] if you ever made from mistake, if you ever don't kill inside one black hole
[11:20:46] this is an ages it's like all these little indicators of the endex just kind of crushing a fight for free
[11:20:53] yeah I mean I
[11:20:55] I worry about the heroic I think the girls are very weird
[11:20:58] they're very low damage so far so you need a lot of damage coming from your next picks
[11:21:03] and there's some heroes that restrict your goals.
[11:21:06] That is high damage.
[11:21:08] But it is high single target damage,
[11:21:10] so it does leave a potential hole of illusion heroes
[11:21:14] of the sort of terribly high-phero.
[11:21:17] They are putting a lot of pressure on the syndicmer right now.
[11:21:20] Outside of tiny, he is the big team fight factor.
[11:21:24] He is the one that says this is this engagement.
[11:21:26] It's a Yandex.
[11:21:27] There's so many little layering to it that it overcommit with just one hero.
[11:21:30] One hero if he does, a second guy can step up with a hero or a kiss.
[11:21:34] That last pick needs to be just another stunning dude.
[11:21:38] Otherwise, yeah, it would just be a matter of one black homies, like I said, so of course
[11:21:43] to see if he can find that hero.
[11:21:45] I don't really love the clings chen combo, so I'm going to be honest, like clings has a
[11:21:50] lot of like playability into Fizer.
[11:21:52] I think the primal can actually threaten the chen clings, why they're actually, if you get
[11:21:57] beat on all the time in your low HP, yeah, you don't have many plays, but if you find any
[11:22:01] two we want opportunity against these two guys, they're kind of feeding, they don't really help each
[11:22:05] other that much. So I think Yandex have found very good picks, especially in the second phase,
[11:22:10] they're also closer with a gyros, so your nigma offline is dead. It's not going there anymore.
[11:22:14] It's going mid for sure. Yeah, and the thing is, even if it's made like, in Nigma's now
[11:22:21] worthless in this girmishes of gyros there, it will kill all the items, and that's an
[11:22:24] thing was an entire impact in the early game is hitting people with idle on his taking
[11:22:28] space, taking towers, and now even if you do try to pressure mid, if you ever try to
[11:22:32] dive this tower jar cup, the TPC presses all the presses fly, can all of the pressure
[11:22:36] you have there is dead, so not only can he only go mid, but he's got to be really careful
[11:22:41] with how far he reaches, and you have to keep in mind that Tyler is playing, not something
[11:22:44] that he's played a ton, he is capable of playing it, he's played it in officials, but it is
[11:22:49] not like it's not like Ember or Storm or Pucks, something he has hundreds or thousands of
[11:22:54] games on its weird, he's playing it on a stage against one of the best teams in the
[11:22:57] world, there's a lot of pressure there and he is not in his comfort zone.
[11:23:00] Yeah.
[11:23:01] The end of that thing in about Saxon's here or the full position, like any hero that
[11:23:05] can at least just disrupt clinks, like killing him is going to be a key hero.
[11:23:08] So you've got hoodwink with Miss Chance, you've got Dark Willow, to go to Realm, Wind Ranger
[11:23:13] as well, just for the Miss Chance, like any of the annoying falls that can end to the
[11:23:17] fight, kind of bait the clinks, or at least provide some team fight, but, yeah, that's...
[11:23:23] I mean, this was a bullet as well.
[11:23:24] I'm looking at three, they're like four heroes,
[11:23:26] which are like, yeah, I can see that working well for you.
[11:23:30] He's got very solid options.
[11:23:31] They will probably just pick socks of four, number five,
[11:23:34] like I agree with all those suggestions.
[11:23:36] And for heroic, I think this Mars and Centaur
[11:23:40] can make a lot of sense.
[11:23:41] You want to hear all that counter-strike up there,
[11:23:42] some tank you do to appear that can go in first,
[11:23:45] because tiny being your only initiator is just two,
[11:23:48] it's two difficult to still have execution, I think.
[11:23:51] I mean, maybe you go on like some giga teamfight where you try to swarm them.
[11:23:55] I don't think it's necessarily like a good broo game, but I don't see a pick that like,
[11:24:00] does something crazy? So I think you just all in or like some
[11:24:03] crazy teamfighting where like you put everyone together like you overrun them.
[11:24:07] So I don't see too many heroes that fit.
[11:24:09] I mean, he's played other cool heroes before like Podge, but he's not set up for that.
[11:24:12] Like you play Podge Tiny in this lane, like good luck. You're going 0-10.
[11:24:15] You're asking to die to the, yeah, for the shots charge.
[11:24:18] It's in the way that you find that you can get through the lane and show you can go to
[11:24:22] soak the damage of a parameter if I put the lane is so difficult. You need to kind of
[11:24:26] walk the fine line of, I need it often, I can survive this but still contribute to what my
[11:24:30] draft needs. You could run a Phoenix again and just go full yolo snowball mode. I don't love it.
[11:24:39] I don't love it either but I'm not sure what fixes is here like I feel like a heroic once again
[11:24:43] has put themselves in a hole. I feel like this draft has been very stubborn and
[11:24:46] cocky almost. And I think they're all from the wrong foot. I think they misunderstand
[11:24:50] this matchup. I think Viper is good against Enigma. And I agree with Kazoo that I think
[11:24:55] they can change Enigma back to back, like that sets you up for inevitable weaknesses later
[11:24:59] on the line on your draft. What else can you do? I mean let's we can see first for the
[11:25:06] end-exerality of just to cause then heroic get a little more infer. The build with the wind
[11:25:11] It's not easy to exploit them, like NX, they found their formula, after that game won, we're just picking solid lanes for picking heroes that make sense together, teamfight spells, and then you have to outplay us because we're not going to give you a free dove.
[11:25:29] I'm just like, you kind of don't want to go to too big of cooldowns as well, so then you get another offlane that has like, like a Magnus for example, well, then you can just
[11:25:37] RP the jar and keep the next, the clanks you kill him off, but there's a snowball save already that doesn't matter and then now you have like a nigg burn it.
[11:25:43] I'm trying to find like some X factor whisper here, like you can maybe surprise us with to keep their best of five lives on the land, but yeah, it's a offlane tanker.
[11:25:53] I'm gonna go drive.
[11:25:55] That's it.
[11:25:57] Um...
[11:25:59] It just feels like it's a hero to buy ors.
[11:26:02] The wool, I'm not going.
[11:26:03] Wow, what a great...
[11:26:04] The wool game often you want to see into certain specific heroes.
[11:26:07] Dark up to often is the hero that you pick into dark circles.
[11:26:10] You're getting a replica doesn't really mean much, but...
[11:26:14] I've been vacuuming the black hole one time in the game, maybe?
[11:26:18] Huh?
[11:26:19] It's just like he has no good search partners,
[11:26:21] and he's only good shell buddy is tiny.
[11:26:24] So to me, this offline needs to go very well,
[11:26:27] and tiny darks are needs to get kills
[11:26:29] and like snowball the game on their own,
[11:26:31] because those two are the heroes that work together the best.
[11:26:34] If tiny is not in a kill, yeah,
[11:26:36] that hero is not dying.
[11:26:37] And so to me, this often has to be enabled,
[11:26:39] because tiny is the most important hero for them.
[11:26:41] He needs to be enabled so they can actually make moves
[11:26:44] and make things happen, because if this game is stale
[11:26:47] and chill and the annex is farming,
[11:26:49] we're all like have like legit no chance, I think.
[11:26:51] It just reminds me of the game we had earlier with the Nigma on the Lord where even though we didn't like it, they did well, but then eventually they have no damage.
[11:26:57] I think this is a little bit similar as well, like you're going to have a Nigma darks here.
[11:27:00] I like that.
[11:27:02] Maldives as well doesn't have the drinking buddies actually in this lane.
[11:27:05] This is a lane you want to abuse, not pushing.
[11:27:07] You go attack team, you fill them, you play aggressive for heroic.
[11:27:10] I mean, fill the corner with, they have to go off and like the first aid minutes.
[11:27:13] I mean, if they do go off, then you do create this like tempo that is so annoying to play into, but again, if you're yandex, it just feels inevitable, right?
[11:27:20] like a B could be on primal and then you're just gonna stand your ground and then you
[11:27:24] might die to a clink with if he's showing himself and you have to hope that
[11:27:27] melodies got the blink and actually melody just switched last minute to drinking
[11:27:31] buddies. So he has changed his mind as the game loads in. So
[11:27:34] tack team up until two seconds. He heard Kezman went. Don't push the limb. Don't push the limb.
[11:27:38] Don't push the limb. Because this topic is so hard for Darcy if you play properly if they
[11:27:41] just drinking buddies off cooldown and push. Whistrable actually have a game.
[11:27:44] Yeah I kind of agree. I think tack team you touch you play behind the tower by yourself and then
[11:27:47] when it's vulnerable, the second point is, no, we get killed.
[11:27:50] I guess we'll see how they want to play the lane.
[11:27:51] Maybe Maddie wants to give the sack of potatoes or chance to win.
[11:27:55] Or he wants to join them.
[11:27:56] Maybe he's embodying the potato.
[11:27:59] He is a potato.
[11:28:00] I think he's about to make mashed potatoes and eat it up all for himself.
[11:28:03] Butter, chives, whatever you want in there, because I...
[11:28:05] It's good seasoning on top.
[11:28:06] If you know they don't choke and they're just playing their own game, it feels like they should win this.
[11:28:10] It's more on her work to bait them, to make them lose their own cool, to make plays they don't want to make.
[11:28:15] That's how her needs to play this.
[11:28:16] like get the thoughts they go crazy, do just dump shit and break them, done.
[11:28:22] Alright, they could go crazy apparently they're allowed to add the butter and the chives to
[11:28:26] the mashed potatoes that it feels like it is inevitable out of my finalists here that
[11:28:31] really loving what Yandex has been able to, not only in this game but so far this series
[11:28:36] so heroic, backs against the wall. This is their last chance to stay in not only this best
[11:28:41] 5, but BluffLamp 4, but BluffLamp 6 as it is game 4.
[11:29:04] The Royk in a wuff spot in this series as the analyst,
[11:29:09] favoring Yandex in this game for the draft that they have set up.
[11:29:13] Avery, do you agree with that to you, like Yandex and what they've brought to the table here?
[11:29:18] I think it's another really well-rounded draft.
[11:29:22] I think they've just been going for consistency.
[11:29:24] I always feel they're not even trying to out draft her.
[11:29:27] They just want to get something there come through with that ticks all the boxes has solid laying,
[11:29:32] some front lines, some stuns, some playmaking,
[11:29:35] and they're just gonna out execute her, you know.
[11:29:38] Yeah, that sounds like they believe
[11:29:40] they are the better teams.
[11:29:42] Yeah, I think they do.
[11:29:44] I think he's guys out of a lot of confidence.
[11:29:46] Even with the standard, I don't like to truly
[11:29:47] change their mentality.
[11:29:48] I think these guys are hungry.
[11:29:50] They want to prove that they are not a fake
[11:29:52] hero and team, you know.
[11:29:53] And that's a, it's a good place to be in.
[11:29:56] I do like this for a little bit more than the panel did though.
[11:29:59] The panel is overheating it a little bit.
[11:30:01] Okay.
[11:30:02] I think that's some more sauce to cook with than they were given a credit for.
[11:30:07] This is a lineup that heroic as run before and is very familiar with.
[11:30:11] And I think the clings can do a lot more in this situation than the Earth so we saw really.
[11:30:16] I think clings...
[11:30:23] He gives you some of that minus armor and like physical pierce.
[11:30:26] This darks here in Eggmuck and Lack.
[11:30:28] And he'll just go deeper in the line of being connected to the stunts of an easier
[11:30:32] than the Ursa, without getting kind of.
[11:30:34] I think that's a huge difference because if you look at that game where they played
[11:30:40] in the mirror today, the name of it did work in that game, like he did land the black holes,
[11:30:46] he did control the fights, there just wasn't the damage fall.
[11:30:50] So I kind of have some faith that they fixed that issue a little bit here.
[11:30:53] Well, we're already going to see some weird stuff coming out of this game.
[11:30:58] Malik tried to one shot the first wave, but KJ, which is penitent, was able to slow him
[11:31:03] down enough.
[11:31:04] They wasn't able to kill the melee creeps, so he missed out on the all that.
[11:31:09] Only got the range creep.
[11:31:10] Now he's being zoned out of the second wave that's pushing in, looks like Soxa is probably
[11:31:14] going to wrap around behind the tower to grab that one, after a failed gank in the bottom
[11:31:21] lane.
[11:31:22] So he's going to try and pull it, but whatever the situation is, it's clear that Yannics
[11:31:26] do not feel very good about their off lane in a straight-up matchup.
[11:31:32] And they shouldn't.
[11:31:33] It's another really tough lane, per mall, like though that first wave basically just got
[11:31:38] completely lost.
[11:31:39] Nobody got his P for three of those melee creeps.
[11:31:42] That's a huge blow up here.
[11:31:43] The idea was, find the execution got punished by this Chen more than probably they expected.
[11:31:51] Now, Abrie, you know I love to call you out.
[11:31:56] Okay.
[11:31:58] You uh, we both made our predictions for this series.
[11:32:02] Last night.
[11:32:04] This is it.
[11:32:06] And you, you back to heroic, and you really thought heroic was going to go all the way.
[11:32:11] So I want you to tell me what you saw in this team that gave you so much faith in them.
[11:32:16] fake in them. I think they were executing fairly well. They were throwing games and I
[11:32:22] felt that they could fix the throwing issue that they were playing a lot better than
[11:32:26] their record shirt. And Ty Long was going hand. But so far in this series, Ty Long has
[11:32:32] not really gone hand. Now, and their drafts to me have been very different than what
[11:32:36] they were playing in the group of a successful for them. I think they've gone back to
[11:32:41] with their older style that wasn't working to well. So those are, I'm not really sure why they've gone that route.
[11:32:49] But it's not exactly working in the series. However, series is not over yet. So hold on to your
[11:32:55] hold on to your prediction. I agree. I agree. I think the biggest thing for me of what you just said
[11:33:02] is that if you like Thailand has indeed got a little missing because you're such a big force for them
[11:33:09] game the group stage and a reason why they were in a position to throw games in the first place.
[11:33:14] And you know, they win that first game off of Vivo. He played good, but you know,
[11:33:19] felt like a Vivo game and then he played the enigma. That puck game was pretty uninspiring.
[11:33:24] Now he's back on the enigma and that just gives me a lot of the hesitance and backing
[11:33:30] roll that all for this game for considering the way the game too.
[11:33:33] tough to land against fight per twice and then the puck game
[11:33:39] think other things just want to run in that game so stuff I can be a lot of
[11:33:44] people they're like finally the plight lung lazy is done but what can you do
[11:33:50] maybe I'll pop off again in this game for I think you had a pretty good
[11:33:54] nigma game also I think it was fine you had some nice bibles and you made
[11:33:58] some good early moves there's just like black hole those and kill people
[11:34:03] it's home, you know, it's just not how the hero works anymore, so that it has to be a team effort
[11:34:07] and come together here. So far, it's the index, however, doing pretty well in these lengths,
[11:34:13] that kind of the darks here so far and again, I only whispers lines have gone to all the
[11:34:17] series. It's been a weak point that the index have exploited, because they're just pulling in
[11:34:22] their awfully. So they're just neutralizing whatever advantage, heroic crafty,
[11:34:26] to the team for that set up.
[11:34:28] And heroic are not responding as well in their own
[11:34:31] double melee all things to get the same amount.
[11:34:34] Yeah, Whisper and Theo Lecourt are clearly trying
[11:34:37] to challenge with this double ion shells, a melee set up here.
[11:34:41] But they whiffed on that one, they initially
[11:34:43] Whisper wanted to get aggressive.
[11:34:45] But now, in the end, the second goal round
[11:34:46] they could still win this out.
[11:34:47] Outloads is too good, now he's going to be able to heat it up.
[11:34:50] In fact, he even has enough for the blood
[11:34:51] going to dozen die.
[11:34:53] They'll kill himself now, but the experience
[11:34:55] will be to pride from heroic.
[11:34:57] A one for, I mean, that even one,
[11:35:00] it's like half a hero for two.
[11:35:03] I think they should've just pulled the early waves
[11:35:05] and then fought when they had level three of both heroes.
[11:35:08] They can try to fight this too early.
[11:35:09] Jiro was super strong, especially with the drinking buddies
[11:35:13] early.
[11:35:14] That's a tough challenge.
[11:35:15] Like you said, they're trying to challenge the wing,
[11:35:17] which I kind of respect, but I don't think they've played
[11:35:20] for any distinct timing to take that challenge on.
[11:35:22] And now they're finding themselves pretty far behind.
[11:35:25] This gyrocopter is a little five at the five minute mark.
[11:35:28] That's pretty bonkers.
[11:35:31] Yeah, they're no longer any more.
[11:35:34] Yeah, that's like it's done, so in fact, Whisper,
[11:35:36] he is into the jungle.
[11:35:37] He has some stacks, which will help.
[11:35:39] But this is pretty much a complete stack lane now.
[11:35:41] Of course, Dark Sears, super efficient in the jungle.
[11:35:44] So his net worth will be fine.
[11:35:46] It's just the net worth, the experience differential
[11:35:50] is going to be insane on this bottom lane.
[11:35:53] one of these aggressive words.
[11:35:55] One of the mightstay, but they've already
[11:35:57] pinged the high groundwards.
[11:35:58] Did they know that the ill because of their defensive
[11:36:00] or thorough air was trying to punish
[11:36:02] to your junior and he might still get it.
[11:36:04] They got the toss back here with a malophys.
[11:36:07] No black hole from Tylong
[11:36:09] and feels like he can run him down
[11:36:10] anyway, not the case.
[11:36:11] He's now the snowball's turn around.
[11:36:12] Tylong throws out the black hole,
[11:36:14] but it's not enough to kill to your junior.
[11:36:16] Oh, she's just going to hold them.
[11:36:18] He should have just black hole them from the start.
[11:36:21] Got a little greedy there.
[11:36:22] If he had his drum, I think you can hold that black hole,
[11:36:26] because night-alons were killed with the drum charge,
[11:36:27] but he didn't have it.
[11:36:30] But that play.
[11:36:31] This career gets snipped, is that what happened?
[11:36:33] Yeah, as career, I killed by Watts as well at the end of that.
[11:36:40] Man, he loses out of the kill.
[11:36:41] Doesn't waste the black hole.
[11:36:43] Doesn't get his drum for that play.
[11:36:44] Again, I feel you're forcing that right before that item
[11:36:48] comes out and makes that play significant easier.
[11:36:50] These little timing to matter a lot.
[11:36:52] when people are users and they get the deal, they get the double deal, I think?
[11:36:57] Yeah, they kill both odds, they kill one on the higher and the one behind the tier one.
[11:37:02] That's a nasty sequence of events there for a row of trying to take advantage of this, this a nigma matchup mid, but
[11:37:10] just not executing it well enough to still wall.
[11:37:13] I wonder if he studied the word games? Oh, they're gonna they're gonna try and take the wisdom strength.
[11:37:17] If they started the war game, I wonder if our rollercord
[11:37:21] are kind of stagnant and where they place their words
[11:37:24] because they have been getting us done
[11:37:25] really good in the war in the end.
[11:37:27] Frank's awesome way, but stacking up the hero's field
[11:37:30] of course, gonna die.
[11:37:31] Somebody game inside the Wistows' tribe.
[11:37:32] They're not gonna get the Wistows' tribe.
[11:37:34] They will get the kill on Wasting,
[11:37:35] but it's going to be so costly.
[11:37:37] They lost the experience, a T.P. away from Mowdy,
[11:37:40] so they won't even get the other kill out of this situation.
[11:37:43] A one for two, with their Wistows' tribe
[11:37:45] stolen away from them.
[11:37:47] and these supports are going to be struggling on heroic.
[11:37:52] At least that Shen can chung a little bit to catch up,
[11:37:54] but this time he is.
[11:37:56] He is going to be sacrificed in this game.
[11:37:58] He's very far behind in terms of XC.
[11:38:00] He will have to make it up with some kills later on.
[11:38:02] Nice kill for Yuma.
[11:38:03] Again, that Chiros really high level.
[11:38:05] So it's always nice to bring him down.
[11:38:07] Tough target to fight.
[11:38:09] In the early skirmishes with Max Parage.
[11:38:13] Yuma's oxygen is there?
[11:38:14] We're going to go for Yuma.
[11:38:15] Oh, god, I'm on the shackle now, Malik.
[11:38:16] He's going to follow it up.
[11:38:18] Running over Yuma, Yuma training, Yuma himself is much in the can with the death-backed
[11:38:22] the avalanche.
[11:38:23] We'll cover him a bit here.
[11:38:24] A little bit of it, so he hits almost kill 10 power shot does not land otherwise it would
[11:38:30] have been the kill on Yuma.
[11:38:32] But he looks away into the night.
[11:38:34] Now, Ty Lines is going to come in, but Yuma is too low.
[11:38:37] I mean, he does have a death-back if they want to risk it.
[11:38:40] It's not black hole here.
[11:38:43] to wait for Idle on one second.
[11:38:46] Runs pops out and Alec orders.
[11:38:50] He got some rear pad of the Melmetry line.
[11:38:56] The execution just feels clumsy here for her own.
[11:39:00] She's so many little things adding up here.
[11:39:03] Still kind of okay in this game.
[11:39:05] We need to find something with this next black hole.
[11:39:08] Another kind of defensive game for for Yandex,
[11:39:11] where they're letting her all take these little moves and just stonewalling them.
[11:39:15] Not even in good openings, getting the stacks up, there's ancient being built by socks
[11:39:20] right now.
[11:39:21] So again, it's not, we're offensive looking for some play with primal beasts, we're just letting
[11:39:26] you fail again, and we're stacking ancient, and Malax is going to catch up that way.
[11:39:41] the
[11:39:48] XP difference already three levels 20%
[11:39:51] lot of it's got to be on this gyro eight and a quarter
[11:39:56] the levels are just so good on this year all compared to a lot of carries because you can just get you can fight early
[11:40:02] He uses the levels to gain more levels.
[11:40:05] You can get farm stacks here in the game.
[11:40:08] There's a big threat.
[11:40:09] And there's also a here that can show up with flack
[11:40:12] Against italons.
[11:40:14] Some of these early fights and how clear and out of it.
[11:40:16] Which is nice.
[11:40:17] It's a lot of a big mess strength.
[11:40:19] These italons with the drum charts behind them.
[11:40:23] Yeah.
[11:40:24] He made a toss where to go through the gate right now.
[11:40:27] It might surprise Tylong who's camping out here against the primal beam.
[11:40:34] He's been sitting up here a long time, trying to land this black hole.
[11:40:39] So that knows who you are.
[11:40:41] Now I have smoke under vision.
[11:40:45] It actually feels like as the series has gone on, heroic is being read more and more.
[11:40:56] of
[11:41:01] the
[11:41:06] of the ancient block but there's no words on this tiny
[11:41:09] and is no big tower to flank
[11:41:14] if you can find paper here was stealing a list of smoke
[11:41:23] Big stacks is trying to right out.
[11:41:29] And once again, it seems like the MO for Yandex is there.
[11:41:32] They're willing to play a little bit more defensive, a little bit more passive, and play for the economy game,
[11:41:38] and let heroic crash into them if necessary.
[11:41:41] A good strategy against aggressive oriented teams, who often don't pick necessarily better skill.
[11:41:48] You just put a lot of pressure on that.
[11:41:50] You make that next Q in an elimination series.
[11:41:53] It's definitely how that old secret used to play.
[11:42:00] Now that efficiency is going to pay out,
[11:42:02] they'll actually get the gold lead off of farming this ancient stack.
[11:42:09] I would love to see like the ancient's formed discrepancy in this game.
[11:42:14] It's got to be super-handx favorite.
[11:42:16] I mean, they stacked up all that triangle, but they've also basically been clearing the bottom ones.
[11:42:20] With the Tusk Gyro Tag King.
[11:42:23] They'll go through the gate, but is immediately met by Watson-Amality,
[11:42:27] the running down off the snowball.
[11:42:29] Very easy.
[11:42:30] He's just getting abused.
[11:42:35] And the more you run around and try and make something happen, that's impossible though.
[11:42:39] The less you're stacking farming, getting levels, pushing towards that blink.
[11:42:43] Just compounds your difficulties.
[11:42:45] Throak, struggling to find openings here.
[11:42:48] I long, you know that this, this safe-link tower, they can't hold it.
[11:42:52] The jar of cop there, come through the gate.
[11:42:55] Most of the strength of the D-nigmas gone since you can't rely on the idol on, so...
[11:43:00] It's got to give it up.
[11:43:09] The D-wording game for the end-ex.
[11:43:11] the
[11:43:14] way.
[11:43:15] It was strong this time around
[11:43:18] like they really read these
[11:43:20] moves well kill bad early
[11:43:21] vision.
[11:43:22] It's a lot harder to get these
[11:43:24] little angles and the woods
[11:43:26] get the prospects maybe
[11:43:28] gained the primal top we saw
[11:43:30] Taiwan he's still looking for
[11:43:31] this black hole top it's been
[11:43:34] like five minutes up here.
[11:43:35] That's all I'm.
[11:43:38] Now, now, so if you're heroic, the way around that is either, I mean, you can always
[11:43:43] do work, but that's easier, so I'm done, is to just push, like, just start getting
[11:43:48] these towers, and force reactions out of the index to then either abuse somewhere else
[11:43:54] or just take the head on fight, if you think you're that strong with the summons push.
[11:43:59] Well, we got some power, is going to follow me at 30 seconds so the wisdom is trying
[11:44:03] is back up.
[11:44:04] So Watson and Malady aren't a position to invade.
[11:44:08] As is the Nigma and Chan on the other side of the map, who's going to go where, though?
[11:44:13] Who's going to defend what side of the map the Nigma is going to come back to fight
[11:44:16] for their wisdom shrunts, so they're not going to go for the invasion.
[11:44:20] And Yandex, back up in turn, Malady, does not overextend himself, doesn't even get caught
[11:44:25] by this setup.
[11:44:26] And maybe the surge catch, but no, look at that, he just drags himself out of there with the
[11:44:31] the drinking buddies out of range.
[11:44:33] And now the turn route.
[11:44:34] Malax is going to come through the gate,
[11:44:35] join in on this smoke with a fresh blink
[11:44:39] dagger to make the initiation.
[11:44:40] This could be rough for heroic.
[11:44:43] There's a batting with stall.
[11:44:44] He's just back.
[11:44:45] He doesn't get the crap on him.
[11:44:46] He's easily now a kick.
[11:44:48] It's canceled by Atlas and tried to charge away.
[11:44:50] But the onslaught doesn't let him go anywhere.
[11:44:56] Then he just assumed they were to all there.
[11:44:58] That is a crazy jump into that ball.
[11:45:01] And I know what, there's no way you get a pulverized off against a sign up with their group.
[11:45:08] So we're going to bring the numbers and just kind of beating the index into it.
[11:45:12] And I see that's why I should just play defensive and stack the agency.
[11:45:15] Try and make a movement in this game immediately decimede it over.
[11:45:20] Yeah, honestly, no, no point.
[11:45:22] You just hang out until you get eggs on Biber and then Biber front lines for you and that can change everything.
[11:45:28] But actually, starting engagements is kind of right now anyway,
[11:45:31] it feels unnecessary.
[11:45:33] Especially into the five minute, you look at this remote area.
[11:45:36] And what does this line up on it do?
[11:45:39] Five minutes.
[11:45:40] That's it.
[11:45:41] Like, yeah, Clink's is gonna run on the map
[11:45:43] and do some stuff, but this line up is built around Shen,
[11:45:46] and Ning Matarksy, or getting or is getting
[11:45:49] this clump to go in, making hills invincible.
[11:45:52] You don't wanna just ram your head into that.
[11:45:56] Undessus, Sarah.
[11:45:57] That's going to be a tall order.
[11:46:00] Nice word drop there from Tylong.
[11:46:05] That's a sneaky one.
[11:46:06] That sees some of the heroes chasing after him.
[11:46:11] Oh, I don't think Steve was a game.
[11:46:12] They didn't force too many bad moves after the clunky start.
[11:46:17] They just slowly get into their items.
[11:46:18] And that is the power of Shen.
[11:46:21] And these games that are static, Shen is king man.
[11:46:25] Farms faster, he clears more of the dead camps, and he builds a net worth of it on his own.
[11:46:31] And he returns that net worth into favorable scaling for the enemy.
[11:46:39] In between, and him having the meton, and the pipe about to be done for whisper,
[11:46:44] the ball just becomes more and more intimidating, but heroic, that actually gets something done with that ball.
[11:46:51] Well, that time is coming soon.
[11:46:54] The Rochon Tour Mentor wisdom shines at 19-20-21 minute timing.
[11:47:00] And to me, this is, I didn't talk about this, but the oddest pick in this entire draft
[11:47:08] to me was this winner-anger, in some sense.
[11:47:11] Okay.
[11:47:12] It is a socks-especialty.
[11:47:13] He plays a serial super well.
[11:47:16] It's like a ranged stunner that kind of fits their lineup, but this hero is notoriously bad
[11:47:20] against group up in Horrors as a support,
[11:47:22] and it doesn't farm the map that fast.
[11:47:24] So if you're expecting to play a defensive style
[11:47:26] with stacking and getting fat,
[11:47:29] this isn't really the hero you went for that.
[11:47:31] And if you're expecting heroic to ball
[11:47:33] but Horrors of like a big moment of darks
[11:47:35] here in Shenmue, you saw the a big man Shenry.
[11:47:38] Yeah, you're just pretty bad into that too.
[11:47:40] So it's kind of like, why did you want this hero over?
[11:47:44] Something that would just farm or push waves
[11:47:45] or scale a little better, you know?
[11:47:47] even caught like some call-type hero or anything with the wave show could have been more
[11:47:52] interesting to me and in socks as we will have for sure. I'm not sure surprised you went
[11:47:57] for it here. They used to play this lot with the slaughter combination and then it has just
[11:48:02] some more intrinsic value but they don't really have combos with it here. So this would be
[11:48:10] a question mark for me as gamers. Ken socks that keep up his farm and impactful to the other
[11:48:15] supports here. I do think Win run is very value in this game. And that could
[11:48:22] allow socks to play more forward as a fore position in this game to farm camps, to
[11:48:28] break smokes like the one that just hit Jared Schoenier and have a chance to survive.
[11:48:33] That's really the only thing I see from it. Yeah, it's good against the clink
[11:48:37] start with. And they make a little really interact with them too much.
[11:48:43] But a little worried for him and that is a massive kickoff.
[11:48:45] That was the Axe Fiper that just got tossed in the set their stop, instant kill, instant
[11:48:51] into the roach, amped damage in the river for Yuma, things are lying right now for Roach.
[11:48:56] And are they going to take this fight with up on my mind?
[11:48:58] He proves this is how Yama is trying to do this for versus five with Tylong just ready
[11:49:03] to go with his blink bagger if they get the job.
[11:49:04] It's going to be the drug officer tossing with the black hole.
[11:49:07] He does stay canceled but they pull back into the vacuum.
[11:49:10] It's already done.
[11:49:11] again, I'm inside the snowball and we'll see if anybody can actually get out of this situation.
[11:49:16] No, there was a primal beast, a shard up in a second for malady, but he's just gonna get run down the whole way through
[11:49:23] a roeic. They forced the roe Shawn, use the opportunity to get a fight out of Yandex,
[11:49:29] Yandex got to be regretting trying to contest this.
[11:49:32] That word was so valuable. You had a toss back on the paper,
[11:49:36] a mid-shore on the way, then you get a toss back on the gyrovert, that's nice of
[11:49:40] what a palm. And that is easy pickings for human, and that is the difference between
[11:49:45] this game and that other nickname. The clings can, he can clean house off of these black
[11:49:50] holes, even if they don't last the full duration. He's not nearly as kind of or
[11:49:55] or dealable as that Ursula was.
[11:50:06] Very nice fight set up,
[11:50:07] but there's just too much sustain here.
[11:50:08] Look at how high everybody is in terms of HP and it's like,
[11:50:13] hand it to God that there's the greens being finished.
[11:50:17] Yeah, what, not even sure you could've win that fight,
[11:50:21] just numbers wise, 55, but this point in the game,
[11:50:24] if you're a Yannix.
[11:50:25] I think they're underestimating the taking distance line up right now.
[11:50:32] Don't do about 0% when ready to get Shen by the way.
[11:50:34] Yeah, yeah, just throw that out there.
[11:50:38] It doesn't seem to be a problem for them.
[11:50:40] The problem for that seemingly they have not fixed as they take the team fight off the
[11:50:47] Rochon, then off of that Rochon, it turns 20 minutes.
[11:50:50] They take more mentor and send them off for the wisdom shrine in 21.
[11:50:53] They are going to smoke through the gate and go to the other side here.
[11:50:58] Chip away at the tier two, see if Yandex.
[11:51:01] I'm going to take another fight around this.
[11:51:04] I mean, I didn't work the first time around, but I guess they didn't have Viper, so Yandex.
[11:51:08] They think it's possible.
[11:51:11] Definitely great better odds with Viper in no black hole.
[11:51:17] You get another pick off fell off the toss, toss, and eat in the sink.
[11:51:20] You're doing a ball stop!
[11:51:22] That was just sexy, man, heroic.
[11:51:26] Put on a little bit of show there from Theo LaCore Whisper.
[11:51:29] That's the best bit of synergy I've seen from them the entire game.
[11:51:32] I'm talking to you.
[11:51:33] Take advantage of this, son.
[11:51:34] Thor creep a lot.
[11:51:35] Yeah.
[11:51:36] I guess what black holes up in 25 seconds now.
[11:51:40] I'm trying to beat off these heroes that helps that cool down.
[11:51:44] The Gravop the Elicors, he tries once again to get a hero out of addition, will be punished
[11:51:49] heavily.
[11:51:50] and a grab from Malik. I'll hold this tier 2 for now, jump right down a little bit there, maybe not expecting
[11:52:00] full BKB done on this primal yet, but well it's pretty far. So I'm going to respect the
[11:52:06] net worth on these the end X course. Supports are falling behind, but Chiro is still super
[11:52:12] In fact, this BKP is also done, so this is a nice little BKP plus C-O-5 for Ag's timing.
[11:52:21] Take a ability just went up a lot here.
[11:52:29] Like the Ghost Up there on the Viper, and I actually feel it's pretty necessary.
[11:52:33] the
[11:52:37] link pressure
[11:52:40] you didn't buy any ghost up there against her so play that much
[11:52:43] no
[11:52:44] it's not care about that man
[11:52:51] socks up
[11:52:52] made an up by an illusion
[11:52:54] off back into his death
[11:52:56] now if you want to get out
[11:52:58] they don't definitely not you will be fine now
[11:53:01] I looked like he grabbed them from so far away from the Z.
[11:53:05] That was a wild pulverized range, but it's a job done.
[11:53:11] That's deso charges for the clings, so maybe that favors her all slightly.
[11:53:15] But I think the tiny kills will have bigger here.
[11:53:21] Any kill, Maldi? Maldi forced to snowball into the creep wave and nowhere to go from there, so.
[11:53:28] the
[11:53:32] clanks is playing a lot of that pressure
[11:53:35] and it's a trouble mapping out where you
[11:53:38] is getting a lot of desert charges of the 16 already
[11:53:44] 15
[11:53:47] that's also super sick
[11:53:49] you got the tier two man item and it's unleashed as well
[11:53:53] which clanks as a hard time with
[11:53:56] a man, a lot of men are problems on this hero and this will allow him to stay on a map
[11:54:01] from the entire game.
[11:54:02] Big.
[11:54:03] They're just getting everything.
[11:54:07] B.K.B. done for the enigma, Crimson Pipe done for Whisper, Grease on the Chen, all the
[11:54:13] ults available.
[11:54:14] Still Hages for 30 seconds.
[11:54:16] They are mega strong right now.
[11:54:18] This is what heroic one of that other enigma game to look like in the mid game.
[11:54:26] They just never got the ball over here they are, they are rolling the ball.
[11:54:33] See if they can keep it up and extra and split them up.
[11:54:38] And yeah next to have that possibility, right, with the primal beast and what he can do with the rock throw with the ferocity.
[11:54:47] For a wee bonus, right, you can cut waves without even showing, then you've got, uh,
[11:54:52] we've already talked about how to socks, uh, not the best at clearing out lanes, but you
[11:54:56] can at least play pretty far forward and be a nuisance with Winron.
[11:55:00] Malady though, at least it wasn't his cause getting caught here.
[11:55:05] That isn't yet another deso charge up to 18 bonus damage.
[11:55:11] Cut that sent you saw the ward new to you as screwed.
[11:55:14] Maybe we can get the D-Roller arm, but it'll be a quick smoke from Hero trying to find somebody on the other side of the map taking advantage of that space.
[11:55:24] They have BKV, blink, black hole available.
[11:55:30] Galsodski can push in these waves with summons.
[11:55:33] Top is being pushed by Eidolons, or less a Sheldh Croker.
[11:55:36] and cheer Junior Toss back into Thailand.
[11:55:41] She'd be from its black hole.
[11:55:43] Nice to see you.
[11:55:44] Yeah, might as well.
[11:55:45] The ghost after being used, this kill is drawing out.
[11:55:48] A bit too long, just throw it down the black hole.
[11:55:50] It's not like you or you may not need it for this eye-ground push.
[11:55:54] But get summons are getting the lanes and so it's dangerous.
[11:55:56] Just run into right up to you.
[11:55:58] You can always go for the Toss back players well, but you have to be a little worried about the peak giving use.
[11:56:03] They're all in for this one, but the hewis done.
[11:56:08] They came up from here.
[11:56:09] The horse looked out a lot of time to say, finally get there though.
[11:56:11] And, oh, for staff, you know, any detection.
[11:56:15] They keep the vision.
[11:56:16] And the fight cannon shots will finish them off.
[11:56:18] You'll have to go or shop down by a power shop from the socks up.
[11:56:22] Two quick kills, and not losing anything for it.
[11:56:26] The four versus five caught her all caught guard.
[11:56:29] I just walk straight into that one.
[11:56:32] I'm a witch was all point.
[11:56:33] But nothing to stop that polarized outside of the year it ain't gonna go in with black hole
[11:56:38] Which of course was on cool out so a great play called there for me index
[11:56:41] Recognizing hey we can just all in this clean swirler BKB's there's no inner rope even though they got interrupted
[11:56:47] It still had enough damage
[11:56:49] Bring you down and just perfect change done in here
[11:56:53] Could not get this hurricane play golf makes a massive difference right there because he dies the exact last black hit as he's reaching
[11:57:03] That was an eight-extric by the way, that is 1,300 gold going in this way and it all went to Watson.
[11:57:14] That's nasty, man.
[11:57:16] Because he's got data list and now he is rapidly closing in on a state tank.
[11:57:27] That's one of those moments in this game where you might look back on and go, you know,
[11:57:31] How would this look different if that had never happened?
[11:57:36] Nice blink, tossing.
[11:57:38] Stopping the onslaught there.
[11:57:41] Maletics will still get a chance to blink away.
[11:57:44] Yuma is trying to cut him off.
[11:57:46] I don't imagine he can do enough damage by himself.
[11:57:49] Maybe the Okin catch up to him with the avalanche,
[11:57:51] and that's enough.
[11:57:52] Got him on the toss and he will fall.
[11:57:54] Soxa arrives too late with the shackle shot to stop the damage.
[11:57:57] image.
[11:57:58] Man, tiny spells are just so stupid and watch that 0 for like 15 years and every
[11:58:04] duration.
[11:58:05] He's viable.
[11:58:07] This spells are just so strong.
[11:58:09] Yeah, yeah.
[11:58:12] Remember when Cracky exterior was an innate for him that would stun, like it's actually
[11:58:21] amazing how long this hero has been.
[11:58:24] Top tier.
[11:58:25] to
[11:58:33] tosses of all the spell nine a.o.e. or a stunning old that is just
[11:58:35] I don't know why they don't need to find the inside
[11:58:37] but of course we gave it to him. You should get it to some hero
[11:58:41] nobody is ever played.
[11:58:43] I was like pugged pug nuggets an a.o.e. or something like
[11:58:45] okay I can I get him.
[11:58:47] Give me the time he's just a slap in the face.
[11:58:51] It's like we got to help our boy out. He's only one like 80% of all their national's that have ever existed
[11:59:00] He needs some love you know, okay
[11:59:06] Well, I always on Watson this game. He's big. He's bad. He's almost 20. He's almost got to panic
[11:59:12] Does have the drinking buddy behind him? Does have the snowball say
[11:59:17] He is
[11:59:19] Do you target that both teams are thinking about kind of similar to the previous game with the SF though?
[11:59:26] Jirul, you can scale into a bit easier to hit the shadow for you. We're not gonna see the same punch.
[11:59:36] And you want to think about
[11:59:39] When if he wants to binary appear in this game?
[11:59:43] Because I think he will need it at some point.
[12:00:19] He can't be black hole throws again,
[12:00:21] roots on, he just on the ground,
[12:00:22] somebody grab it, it's gonna be crap,
[12:00:24] I'm watching time one will die for this one in Watson,
[12:00:26] so damn strong as he comes out of the pit
[12:00:29] with these flanking and shots,
[12:00:30] raining in on a heroic heroic flow retreat from them.
[12:00:34] One, one, one, one, one.
[12:00:36] Well, play call on us, that's an insane rose to do,
[12:00:40] but if you do it decisively, you can get there.
[12:00:43] And just enough time, her oak are leaked to the play,
[12:00:46] interference run by this primal,
[12:00:48] And the best part about that entire play was Watson going to the back of the roach pit.
[12:00:54] Recognizing I don't want to be killing roach and that spot where Nigma's likely going to blind jump.
[12:00:59] I don't know what angle he's going to take.
[12:01:01] That is such a heads up play by him.
[12:01:03] What both fuzz and gyro at the back of the pit saves them a lot of damage.
[12:01:09] Garen T's that Watson get that age.
[12:01:11] There's no one else is able to get in there and get the cancel with the pulverized anyway.
[12:01:16] Just heads up.
[12:01:17] play call an execution from the annex completely catching a roll of call gardens
[12:01:22] get there probably sitting here because you like there's no way these guys
[12:01:24] just force rush against enigma the arcs here find them you have to be
[12:01:29] crazy
[12:01:32] little trouble with tormentor here but they will manage to push through without
[12:01:37] losing anybody's line
[12:01:41] and
[12:01:46] starting to feel eerily similar to that other
[12:01:48] meaning
[12:01:49] or he had to show the image build up the oras
[12:01:52] and
[12:01:53] just can't get
[12:01:56] the scale
[12:01:59] well okay no matter what happens in this game
[12:02:01] at least theoretically
[12:02:03] it's a pretty big difference versus
[12:02:06] clanks.
[12:02:07] We've always be able to, you know, in the right set up a black hole, just cream everybody.
[12:02:13] For sure. You still has data, you still has the axe to build, you still have a pressure, and you can build.
[12:02:21] So we'll see what Yandex can do with this ages period.
[12:02:24] Big window for them to try to swing the little men of this game.
[12:02:28] to
[12:02:34] make a buy U. M. choice of Lincoln's to try and stop
[12:02:37] primal beast jump
[12:02:42] it's it's okay here is a big spell to block
[12:02:46] he can also throw it on a move if they land a big black hole
[12:02:48] and let's say they go and get a vacuum
[12:02:52] they've left on top to a three throw that link is on the
[12:02:55] I kind of like it going.
[12:02:58] Whisper, and some trouble.
[12:02:59] Blank, oh my goodness.
[12:03:02] He popped all of the oras.
[12:03:05] Did not get hit by anything, was able to blink back.
[12:03:19] I wrote definitely on the hunt.
[12:03:21] I hope the finds the pick off. There's a gem on this spiper.
[12:03:30] There's a gem for the Chit. So both teams are going to try and be worth the map.
[12:03:33] Vision played a huge role in this game, especially early on and around that roach pit.
[12:03:51] 13 to 13 33 minutes in.
[12:03:54] Don't a plus still favoring heroic.
[12:03:57] I am surprised that it is favoring them as much as it is considering the index's position.
[12:04:06] They still have a minute left on ages.
[12:04:08] I do think that the index needs to get more done right now, but they're in the position.
[12:04:14] Get that done.
[12:04:15] In fact, they're looking at high ground, thinking about it.
[12:04:17] I mean, Watson is peaking right now.
[12:04:22] Yes.
[12:04:23] Big strong know of Asian Pearson Slime.
[12:04:26] Two lives to work with against the big ults.
[12:04:29] There's your banner, there's your Committal.
[12:04:31] What are you going to do, Harok?
[12:04:33] That'll look for some big back and combo.
[12:04:36] They need to charge in, try to get the toss back.
[12:04:38] You'll strengthen something can, Malie, and Theo.
[12:04:41] Both in a lockward position is going to be Theo slowed down,
[12:04:44] and not able to make it back out.
[12:04:46] long still playing in the far back did not see the opportunity for a blink black hole and continues to wait.
[12:04:55] It's a rax gone that's a tiny gone.
[12:05:00] The other way is probably pushed in though. Tier 3 is actually being attacked on both sides,
[12:05:05] so they took a lane of air, but Yendix is going to have to back out.
[12:05:08] I'm going to surprise that we didn't commit there all that evidence that evidence was not bad and caught the tusk.
[12:05:19] They were looking for the toss back play, but I think there was actually an opportunity to just go and back in black hole there.
[12:05:26] And to top call, they really tough call. They get BKBs off, that fight is not going to go your way. You're still fighting into the ages.
[12:05:36] were they just gone maybe now you have the confidence to just go and black hold this
[12:05:42] chirol about the fight going right and you know we'll work towards MKB now did not
[12:05:50] finish the data list
[12:05:56] and he's in a weird position item wise he wishes he could just go to his you'll have to
[12:06:03] Can't let the shower get away with that much of Asian.
[12:06:22] Okay, MKB coming out for him.
[12:06:25] The scan from Yandex will see how they want to approach this old teams probably baiting up how our room is hit a break.
[12:06:32] to break me even BKD got through the Lincoln's got to grab on the
[12:06:36] CLEASE IT'S ALL UP TO THE BLACK ON NOW they do magic in both the
[12:06:39] primal pieces while it's a jar cut to put a look at Watson he's not
[12:06:42] taking shit for damage he just shrunked it off said black hole I don't even
[12:06:46] see that shit man just throw the satanic out there stay full HP the
[12:06:51] entire time heroic a one for four loss oh boy this is classic
[12:06:58] gyro against the nigma and they jumped the clingsie stunned for so long that he got hit by
[12:07:05] homie missile he has no BKB they pop that link and really fast shackled going in
[12:07:11] just changed on the humour for so long he's not able to deal any DPS here
[12:07:19] but yeah you end a black hole but look he gets stunned by a missile he's hitting nobody
[12:07:23] the entire black hole.
[12:07:30] These items that heroic a draft that are around the minute and they're just super
[12:07:35] carry DPS depending and it looks like they don't find that and they're going to take
[12:07:39] the opportunity to jump.
[12:07:41] You wills stun a noi this carry every time and they're not worried about tanking
[12:07:46] the spells because the spells cannot kill them on their own.
[12:07:49] and
[12:07:56] that I don't care how many lankens are loaded to see you have you just can't have clanks
[12:07:59] be targeted first as it doesn't matter if you're reflecting back spells of clues and able to do any damage
[12:08:07] a pressure on the final two of them.
[12:08:21] Wads inside himself a series here, and he is... he is only, especially his last two games.
[12:08:27] It's had very decisive gameplay in the middle later fights.
[12:08:31] I think my criticism of him is a player, sometimes he can be a little so.
[12:08:35] But it's okay to be a soul carry if you pay it back
[12:08:40] But you're on the game. You can't be a soul-er, soul-er carry, and then not pay back. But he's paying it back in these years
[12:08:56] It feels like heroic or just running into a brick wall time and time again
[12:09:00] smoke five-man looking for the right kind of fight here they'll get an opening on the
[12:09:05] tusk. It's a pickoff. I mean it's better than losing a team fight which is
[12:09:11] only the way these smokes have gone. They've got to run out there and run to their
[12:09:15] vision. That's kind of bad depth to give up in terms of time you get the game.
[12:09:20] Now you break a five-minute smoke is a five it's fine but there is potential
[12:09:24] Rho's spawn.
[12:09:26] The end X.
[12:09:27] Don't have info.
[12:09:28] That was a good time to back up, man.
[12:09:30] Holy.
[12:09:35] You give up some bad pick all right now.
[12:09:37] Can absolutely turn the game for her.
[12:09:39] Prior to him looking at this next objective.
[12:09:42] Still don't have a refresher on a nigma.
[12:09:44] It's a big component missing here.
[12:09:48] And Soxa is done with his item.
[12:09:53] It took 40 minutes, but he has finished first night of win weight loss.
[12:10:00] Okay, so if you get off BKB Satanic before the black hole wants an exontouchable.
[12:10:07] If he doesn't get that off, then you'll be able to win weight loss, at least for the
[12:10:11] initial black hole.
[12:10:16] Got options.
[12:10:17] are nice, but again, more bonus on the execution onto heroic or under the gun right now.
[12:10:23] It's very tough to play in that position.
[12:10:24] Here's the other possibility of tough save right, being able to get the snowball.
[12:10:33] Pre-black hole situation off of, you know, they try and back you black hole and he gets
[12:10:38] the snowball before all that.
[12:10:41] I always feel like if Watson, because he's going to swim, if he blinks in, it might
[12:10:47] to be worth it to just blink next to him and snowball somebody.
[12:10:51] Yeah, I agree.
[12:10:52] Like, pretty snowball, you know, you just have this window where anything
[12:10:55] to go in and in, it goes after KJ, quick execution off the punch.
[12:11:00] Revealing, getting some information,
[12:11:02] they're just going to get the toss back, though, on melody.
[12:11:04] Malady with a snowball, trying to delay his get the wind run,
[12:11:07] trying to pull not a position, the snowball back, Malady.
[12:11:10] He's actually going to try and kill Theo before he gets out of the river.
[12:11:12] With a Viper, pushes forward, buy back from KJ,
[12:11:15] It's grab on a whisper, whisper,
[12:11:16] trying to get out, caught shackled, got sharded.
[12:11:19] A roe, though, playing around it.
[12:11:21] Off of the buybacks, it's fine, Gandex.
[12:11:24] They say, all right, we chill, we chill,
[12:11:26] wait for them to try and go again,
[12:11:28] D-O, he could put on a speck on to the fight first.
[12:11:31] But again, the damage fall up,
[12:11:32] just doesn't really look that good,
[12:11:33] just simple goceptors enough,
[12:11:35] you must retreat away from the fight, bro.
[12:11:38] A roe, like, are now losing your face, like a hole.
[12:11:40] And sight, it really does lack hope,
[12:11:41] and attention to a lot of heroes,
[12:11:42] but again, not the damage will fall with up,
[12:11:44] to kill the support that that's it,
[12:11:45] Watson, full HP with his Satanic,
[12:11:47] still going charge you and you're all finally die.
[12:11:50] But here comes Watson, I slow surge.
[12:11:52] That'll help you make it a wait from the strong copter,
[12:11:54] more by-back's being expanded.
[12:11:56] The Shard to finish off KJ,
[12:11:57] that's a die-back there as well as on Theo,
[12:12:00] Maliby with his buyback will help ensure the Rochon for Yandon.
[12:12:07] That was almost, it almost did, you know?
[12:12:10] It's so close for her role to be enabled
[12:12:12] to win that team fight with a pretty good vacuum black hole from the low ground kind of
[12:12:16] interesting setup at the end. But the clings cannot connect on those targets to clings
[12:12:20] to try to deal with the fight for a whole time. Why are they separated in the first place?
[12:12:25] I feel like the only way they win a fight is if they're operating in the same areas of the fight.
[12:12:31] Well, we'll probably see in the replay, but the second the gyro, who? Not that replay. The second
[12:12:37] the gyro went in, it split the whole fight up on that ramp. And the clink
[12:12:43] skulls one way, the nimba had to blink out to not get pulverized. That's how he
[12:12:48] ended up on the low ground eventually, and the dark series in the middle. So
[12:12:52] your core's just got like basically pinched out by an aggressive blink of
[12:12:59] what's annoying how strong he is, he doesn't play these fights to a tee. It sounds like,
[12:13:06] the end exercise put a lot of pressure on heroic, and heroic has humbled quite often
[12:13:15] under that pressure. I agree with that. And I also think it's the way the play begins
[12:13:20] this kind of time. Like you want to play in a way where you are putting pressure on
[12:13:25] these high execution, team fight,
[12:13:27] wombo combo lineups.
[12:13:28] You know, like, don't, don't let them just plan
[12:13:31] the fight go on you set up by the one.
[12:13:32] Just jump in their chaos is created.
[12:13:35] Corres have to split up.
[12:13:36] They don't want to fight some BKD Jiro.
[12:13:38] And then the fight is already very disordinized.
[12:13:41] And the world's do not want a disorganized fight.
[12:13:44] No, so I think Yandex are doing a very nice job
[12:13:46] identifying this, just placing this massive
[12:13:50] It's a good part of how to work just somehow find a vacuum, find a multi-year-of-life
[12:13:55] hole when the fighters are in super split up.
[12:13:57] That's awkward.
[12:14:02] They got a little bit of time still to work with.
[12:14:04] They recently picked up an end damage in the bottle for Watson.
[12:14:08] So they've got a little window of time here where they have ages and end damage.
[12:14:13] They've got a little window of time here where they have ages and end damage.
[12:14:17] doubt the heroic are willing to take an engagement any other way.
[12:14:22] You absolutely force this fight. Your gyro is out of control right now, especially with the
[12:14:26] two-lies and or a fresher shard in his backpack that's affected the three-lies. You can even just
[12:14:30] smoke up through this top lane. Place a ward and take the fight deep in heroic space.
[12:14:36] You should not care about where this fight happens. Just who it happens all?
[12:14:41] Trying to get the information once again.
[12:14:42] And he can fight so they're not straightforward, diving inside the base didn't find anything
[12:14:47] initially.
[12:14:48] Now they catch Whisper though.
[12:14:50] Whisper on the search way still on the fight to go through, got the back and got
[12:14:53] them to where the flag all the fall.
[12:14:55] The rest of the team it was a four man stack, but Ty-Long wasn't ready to go.
[12:14:59] They were pushed back by this Viper.
[12:15:02] And so despite it being a beautiful vacuum.
[12:15:04] I can't believe it for now, Viper is just throwing the whole team like he can't push
[12:15:10] through that, too many things to tag his blink. Very close to our fresher as well. Do not
[12:15:16] want to go down right now. It was the first fight that I think was fine for Yandex. Just didn't
[12:15:23] give what they were looking for. There is the enigma refresher, but again you're doing it
[12:15:31] into the win waker on the win range of the snowball saved, the ages, and the satanic BKB that
[12:15:37] can be refreshed off the second life here. So you need to catch multiple heroes. Can't
[12:15:42] just all in this trial counter. It takes 25 by the way. So I killed the Viper was pretty valuable.
[12:15:51] He did take Serenera multi shot and is close to Axe. These would be some big upgrades for her
[12:15:56] own. You get that axe, surviving with the burning barrage. This black hole could be devastating.
[12:16:03] So, fast that shot, black cannon on in, wants it, over where the deeps.
[12:16:10] Yeah, he's just taken out these buildings so quickly forcing heroic and, again, that awkward position of like,
[12:16:16] to we go, waiting for the darks here to come back up, just trying to force him stakes out of heroic.
[12:16:23] It's got to be careful if he falls back.
[12:16:25] The fight is just over, man.
[12:16:35] The TPS?
[12:16:38] Coming out of the drinking buddies, gyro, courting people with swift point in.
[12:16:44] What an initiation from all.
[12:16:46] No hesitation.
[12:16:48] And they're going to hit the vacuum wall,
[12:16:51] but Wisp are simply cannot do it alone.
[12:16:54] Heroic will call the KG and Yandex.
[12:16:58] We'll take this series three one.
[12:17:01] That game was a lot closer than the other
[12:17:02] in the game with the supposed fights
[12:17:04] that could absolutely have gone her own way,
[12:17:05] but Yandex are just playing with the already confidence,
[12:17:08] putting the burden of execution onto heroic every time.
[12:17:12] They're not afraid of just going in.
[12:17:14] We saw a time and time again.
[12:17:15] Watson just blinked into the team.
[12:17:16] That last fight in Malaquit just goes in.
[12:17:18] He sees a nigma?
[12:17:20] No.
[12:17:21] I'm going to go in and pull her out of the fight
[12:17:23] is going to be good because there's no turn around potential.
[12:17:25] You've never even got a black hole in that last fight.
[12:17:28] I think a lot of people are going to question the hero of drafts
[12:17:31] in the series in terms of, was this the direction to go after
[12:17:36] mixed success in the group stage playing different stuff.
[12:17:38] They went to the nigma first but like, for multiple times,
[12:17:41] such a scary year to give up.
[12:17:44] But ultimately, I just think big on how the X-TU did
[12:17:46] on the map and the style that Yandex played,
[12:17:50] it was very frustrating for Rowe to go into.
[12:17:53] And so fitting that the final nail in the coffin
[12:17:56] from this series comes from the standing of Malik questions
[12:18:00] about how, well, he was going to be able to fill in
[12:18:02] for notice, well, he certainly played quite up the bar,
[12:18:07] I would say, for Yandex's performance so far,
[12:18:10] he'd get the three-one over Rowe.
[12:18:11] and
[12:18:13] the
[12:18:17] I feel like every time this team goes through a lower bracket of elimination
[12:18:21] record we want to call in the winters series, they level up. They're not afraid anymore.
[12:18:26] You know, they're not like playing a bar with time or anything.
[12:18:28] But I think a lot of other teams who have more pressure on them are going to find themselves in a
[12:18:33] tough matchup with this squad because they have socks at the helm. They're playing with
[12:18:37] confidence. They're they're sadly synergies really good. Like they they understand
[12:18:41] how to get out of bad things. They also understand how to play the the
[12:18:45] the safe lane to a team in terms of securing Watson Farm and his playstyle, and I think when you have that going, it makes you really get very strong.
[12:18:53] I think that was a big disparity in the series as well. I don't think we saw heroic get nearly the same amount out of their offerings.
[12:19:00] As Yendex were with this, with theirs.
[12:19:03] All right, well, we'll play by team NDX. They are going to be moving on to the next day of last ram six.
[12:19:09] And we go to the main stage to touch our winters in the game.
[12:19:13] Yeah, I have the lovely socks of joining me here.
[12:19:16] Look, best of five.
[12:19:17] You guys do it a little bit quicker than liquid could early.
[12:19:19] It's today. You get it done in full games.
[12:19:21] But how tight are you worth energy levels at?
[12:19:25] Pretty low.
[12:19:26] It's been a long day, especially the CX.
[12:19:28] We came here early, and we watched the whole
[12:19:29] Falcons victory series, so yeah, they're looking, looking
[12:19:32] to the bet tonight, and I'll just be ready to put them all.
[12:19:36] All right, I'll try and keep this quick.
[12:19:37] But have you prepared against a team like Kuroko,
[12:19:40] who had branded as being so chaotic and obviously
[12:19:42] having unconventional picks.
[12:19:44] It's hard, I think they're one of the toughest teams to prepare against.
[12:19:48] They're also playing very good dollar right now, so definitely the toughest opponent in
[12:19:51] the case so far, and I think we first game with the other such a good job, but we adapted
[12:19:57] and it was kind of a sport for the rest of the series.
[12:19:59] And you yourself have had to do a lot of adapting, because you're playing with a stand,
[12:20:02] and I mean the whole team is, but you specifically lane partner with Man,
[12:20:06] like how is that, you know, sort of adjustment being?
[12:20:08] And do you think that that could have been one of the issues in game one?
[12:20:12] I think so far has been going well.
[12:20:15] I think we've only had like two games before we came here to better it.
[12:20:19] Yeah, so we do really have any preformals, but so far I think it's going well considering
[12:20:24] it's a less mean situation and I mean I'm the one usually good thing the lane was
[12:20:28] of them.
[12:20:29] So you know, it's all me.
[12:20:30] All right, well we weren't digging through it too much then, and final question, I don't
[12:20:34] know you want to go to bed, but there is going to have to be that look towards tomorrow
[12:20:37] when you're coming up against.
[12:20:38] Now these are how you're going to prepare for them and what do you expect them to bring to
[12:20:42] table. We will see. I think we have to look at the drafts. It's like it's been
[12:20:46] while it's the best of us in years and it's changed especially in the best of
[12:20:49] our formats. So we just look at how to play it and just be careful for tomorrow
[12:20:54] and I think it will be good. I'm looking forward to seeing it sucks the
[12:20:57] congratulations again I'll let you get a sleep but it has been a phenomenal
[12:21:01] time getting to watch you here. Always nice to hear a soft
[12:21:06] to share some thoughts about the games,
[12:21:09] taking it played an amazing series
[12:21:10] as to the rest of the points,
[12:21:12] and very impressive from now,
[12:21:14] being able to take it back from my one game,
[12:21:16] that's what you then will eat,
[12:21:18] wait, we've put the other way.
[12:21:21] I mean, this game is a little,
[12:21:22] it wasn't super clean, but it was definitely what's not.
[12:21:24] No, they feel like after they got that one fight,
[12:21:26] it was kind of smooth sailing from there.
[12:21:29] Yeah, I mean, for heroic,
[12:21:31] you just look re-watch some of the mid to late game fights,
[12:21:34] I even hit, like they're running through the river,
[12:21:35] the nut's smoke, there's no logic behind their positioning.
[12:21:39] It's just five guys that's scrambling to get to a new position,
[12:21:42] and then if the index or in position they have to high ground,
[12:21:45] they find the jump.
[12:21:46] Of course, unfortunately for Tylong,
[12:21:47] it didn't find the blackout the Russian pair.
[12:21:49] He then, of course, here, doesn't really connect correctly,
[12:21:52] again, because it's just the correct entire positioning.
[12:21:54] So for me, it is a, it's a best of five, sorry.
[12:21:57] Again, of heroic, not adjusting and proving.
[12:22:00] And this is how to format, you have to improve.
[12:22:02] Every single game in a best of five,
[12:22:04] You are just exposed if you are not ready.
[12:22:06] I have it through gameplay or drop.
[12:22:08] And in this best of five, unfortunately,
[12:22:09] for the road, they are just not ready to be a contender
[12:22:13] to win a tournament.
[12:22:14] Maybe next time around, they'll be ready.
[12:22:16] I thought that they clearly are on a path,
[12:22:17] but in this position, how they play this game,
[12:22:20] Yandex, they're the ones that are making the little adjustment.
[12:22:22] Just like liquid did earlier today.
[12:22:24] Yeah, there's just like a lot of fights
[12:22:25] where I feel like Yandex kind of puts a rowing on a timer,
[12:22:28] like you even saw it like one of the roach bits
[12:22:29] and also one of the smalls we saw in the highlight there,
[12:22:32] where it's like, if a rowing on like more in position,
[12:22:34] that maybe they don't have to rush.
[12:22:35] You can take the timer sending them
[12:22:36] to find the jump you want.
[12:22:37] But ultimately, I will say, I want to see more of this team,
[12:22:40] but with more stable drafts.
[12:22:42] I understand, they do their own stuff.
[12:22:44] They have their own style.
[12:22:45] It's good to stick to that.
[12:22:46] But I want to see more from him,
[12:22:48] just not with these type of heroes in overall.
[12:22:50] I think this team has a lot of promise,
[12:22:51] but I want them to simplify
[12:22:53] a little bit more for themselves,
[12:22:54] because I do think these games,
[12:22:56] they're not that easy for them to play.
[12:22:57] I mean, there is a middle ground to it,
[12:22:58] where it also, like, tie long.
[12:23:00] It's like, obviously he wants to join a system
[12:23:02] and be like, I'm ready to play with this.
[12:23:03] But he has to kind of learn, again, he's very young.
[12:23:06] So he went and I haven't went to say no in that regard.
[12:23:08] He's like, do you really want to play a nigma into Viper 2 game?
[12:23:11] Like, two games out of four?
[12:23:12] Like, is that really why you're coming to Maltor
[12:23:15] to try and nester trophy?
[12:23:16] Like, maybe in qualifies it works out.
[12:23:17] But here, I want to see his beast master.
[12:23:19] It's M, but I want to see his big heroes.
[12:23:21] Let him shine, but they drafted him into a position where it's like,
[12:23:24] he's just enabling others.
[12:23:25] They got here because he's shining.
[12:23:27] And I feel like they just kind of hurt him in the entire time.
[12:23:30] And it's the best of five.
[12:23:31] And it's a tough learning lesson, obviously, in a best of five, to walk away, look back and be like, maybe they were the moments that broke it for us, they could have been so much more.
[12:23:41] But, yeah, next had a great showing, and we really cannot hype it up anymore, the fact that I'm going to lose Game 1 in a, in a, a bismont fashion, I guess, to the props of Roy, right, and dumb in a way for them.
[12:23:52] And then to go on and win Game 2, Game 3, Game 4 just really close it out.
[12:23:55] And now they get to book that ticket against Navi.
[12:23:59] So another best of five happening tomorrow for them.
[12:24:02] Yeah, it's their ex coach now playing
[12:24:05] against the new player.
[12:24:06] So I know each other quite well.
[12:24:07] See why it was with Watson Amality for a fully year there.
[12:24:12] So they know each other very well.
[12:24:13] I think there's a very good understanding of each other's
[12:24:17] teams.
[12:24:17] And so I think that makes the match up extra spicy
[12:24:19] because that very recent history.
[12:24:21] They're both very friendly with the way they like them a lot.
[12:24:23] So I think there's some camaraderie there.
[12:24:25] But also like, you know, you don't see who is on the right side of history.
[12:24:28] I feel like it's like similar.
[12:24:29] They're trying for the bottom side.
[12:24:30] I think, you know, they know each other.
[12:24:31] When I look at the top half, I feel like the teams are also kind of similar.
[12:24:34] You know, they play both very fast and when I play.
[12:24:36] They're very similar, so I think, you know, we're in for some very nice matches tomorrow.
[12:24:39] Well, let's see, one exactly.
[12:24:40] There's matches are going to be played because I know it's quite late at night here at
[12:24:44] multiple, maybe for you guys watching in different time zones.
[12:24:48] This is the perfect hour for you.
[12:24:50] And that may be brings a little bit of sadness because our day is starting off with OG
[12:24:53] up against liquid, then it's starting at 2 p.m. for us. And then we're looking at the potential
[12:25:00] scheduled 7 p.m. stop for now. Yeah, we'll see about that. It is also rolling, I want to say,
[12:25:05] so if it ends up being a very short best of five, that means we are going to be bringing
[12:25:09] that series up. So it means you kind of just go to like strap in, sit down, and enjoy a whole
[12:25:14] whole day of Dota home, getting to watch some of the best plays there all to offer right now.
[12:25:20] Yeah, another row with that, another row with that, another row with a nice cup of Joe,
[12:25:22] some snack of rules and some built-in tools.
[12:25:25] I just want tomorrow to be longer than today,
[12:25:27] because I saw like,
[12:25:28] about five games, four games.
[12:25:30] You know, this is what 130 in the morning.
[12:25:32] We started like one in the afternoon, right?
[12:25:34] So I thought it's 12 hours of broadcast.
[12:25:37] We can get 13.
[12:25:38] We can get 14.
[12:25:39] We can do better.
[12:25:40] And that's what tomorrow hopefully will bring.
[12:25:42] I have two 20 hours guys.
[12:25:43] Cheers to that.
[12:25:44] Cheers.
[12:25:45] Thank you.
[12:25:46] It's done like a long before we will be returning.
[12:25:47] But we'll see you guys tomorrow for our second day of playoffs
[12:25:50] and some more festivals.