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It's another beautiful day.
here in Malta and we're kicking off a date number two of the playoffs here for Bloss
Lansick says a lovely audience joining us as well as the two teams that are going to be
taking stage very soon. But to reintroduce my panel in case you guys didn't
catch them at all yesterday. We got team. We got kids. We got Quinn. Do you want to stop
Quinn? How you feeling after such a long day yesterday coming back around to? I feel
rejuvenated, refurbished, re-invigorated by sleep. And now I'm ready to get a little
loopy again toward the end. Honestly, same. It was a necessary night of sleep.
Yeah, today is the day of the best games.
I feel awful. Um, okay. This panel is going to be rough.
Any drinks and coffee and caffeine off of this game.
So my next panel we better. So whatever I say in this next panel, I'm sorry.
It is due to my lack of sleep. Take it. Not to hot.
No, I'm going to be brutally honest in this.
Okay, you should take everything to hot.
All from the soul.
No one else feels like your day is broken up,
you know, like you sleep eight hours, you work eight hours,
and then you play dough to free it out.
Is this time round though,
we're doing 12 hours of watching dough to,
and then sleeping wherever you can and fitting in some game.
So I hope you guys are ready
because it's gonna be a lot of action today
before we jump into it.
We're gonna look back at what day one of playoffs had for us.
I'm going to try to find my own first, but my own dust can be grab-off.
I would ice-pop a Mac park, but I can't click and make it go for more.
It's from me, she's coming and ready to join him.
Storm comes out for me, so now they're going to run.
There's sure we can't take up this peasant second time.
And you should have a take-up on the skin, so they're trapped in the trees.
You should play into this area, we've done it.
I got a beautiful shackle as well. They're looking down.
All Apollo Sketer is only at the time of himself that turn with the unspy, simple on the HP,
another great shackle that has been in the comms to an end, since on to a long, he's going to
call again the shackle on to a unspy, but instead he could be with the Prismagegs.
He's going to help the BKB, who comes out, he's going to jump forward,
so we're going to get the catch up to a moment, and BKB's out, bar strike comes in from the side
from Marley's, and they all search for a 100, just BKB, and run over the race,
but there's already clothes to get by the waist though, and now they're going to take it back
and counterpoint the shots against the Korean Foundation
to remind you that it is the first for the two of us done.
But trying to win the judge's military level,
skaters get out to buy from it being caught by the suners.
You should continue to run by the sun, get the suners from my hand
with the cold bars, and I just follow up on to what's clear,
what's he coming up with the fight by making sure they have to jump
in the G.G. News call, and a lake whale,
built in with it today.
And who is problemless guys?
And I found a nightmare back and taking off now
it's black holes, I'm no catch the two of them.
And I didn't need to not go as far easy
through the game now, the whole thing that like, oh, it's done!
It's on where this fight is, well,
you're a junior actually, you have not much damage to throw into that black hole.
Oh, I think you traveled the tombstone out.
Nobody actually died in a threat to you.
You're gonna get the toss back.
The opportunity with the BKB, black holes,
you think it focused down Watson.
They're trying to get through this one function,
and see you get a while without a second black hole.
They can seemingly do not have enough damage.
Okay, David Watson is going to fall into your butt,
she's a junior and a rackin' up some serious damage.
You're likely to die.
And they did the vacuum wall, but whispers simply can't undo a loan, a rollercoaster,
a PG, and Yandex will take the series 3-1.
That was our quarter finals having best of five's meant that our first series going all five,
our second going to four games.
So a little bit quicker than we had at nine games to try and wrap it all up there,
but it did lead to liquid coming up against OG and Navi and Yandex in the semi final.
So we now have laptop 14's and what a top four really truly is, especially considering
two teams make it through, past from that group stage performance and the others.
They already had to do the best to five on stage.
Yeah, a lot of surprises. And I think a lot of question marks too.
How good would these teams be after this break?
Whenever it's like a tundra or a falcon's going for you,
you still have that expectation that they're still going to own whatever they come
really comes even after that break, where these teams are a little less experienced, a little
less, you know, best of the five's under the belt, well, they still, you know, beat
dominant when they get to this next stage. So I'm, I'm not sure yet. Yeah, I've definitely
say it this definitely like, crush marks on the board, especially when you look at
Navi and OG, they are obviously teams that we know that they're good, but we don't really
know how good they are with a few days breaking between, obviously they will be watching
the games that have fought against, they'll understand. Okay, you know, these heroes are under
rise, we need to be, you know, ready for them because all the games we had yesterday are
very close and you can tell that a lot of games are kind of like a mix up in the air like if you play better this game
you're a slightly better like draft and this game you might just take the game.
I just love it.
I'm going to go for a kick and start, okay.
Is it okay?
Yeah, sure.
I just love how meaningful this pair of fracadas, right?
Like every team you can look at and have an actual real reason like them winning is actually
like impactful to the noticing.
I think some tournaments you look at and go.
Yeah, whatever.
I can't wait for the next one that wants to already in the top four position.
But I look at OG SEA, I like that, not of any 10 years of nothing, I like that, Yandex,
spiteed by Tundra Losslam, then winning again is important for Islam.
Liquid, finally getting a win with these Hatheter players.
So it's like, I don't know, I just like the fact that I look at this, the narrative and go,
no, what, I'm happy if any team really wins it.
Oh, for sure, the fact that we've already said it throughout group stage is this is one of the
closest tier one events we've ever really had, not even from the end of group stage could you predict
who was going to make it into the Grand Finals,
and you still really can't, especially with what happened yesterday,
starting off with Liquid and Falcons.
So I still went to five games.
It was a real nail bider, and even that fifth game in itself
was incredibly close as to who was going to come out
and be in the position of continuing the Blossom Lameran.
Yeah, it's, um, I mean, it just shows the ghost of show
the quality of the teams.
I, uh, I had a great time watching it.
I think honestly, everyone on Liquid played really, really well.
I think sometimes, you know,
You know, one player will have a bit of a rough game and you sort of drag through like best
the files can get really messy, but I think when it's like with teams, some people
stood up above the rest a little bit, but I think in general, they all played really
well and they walked in and had a great series.
It also has to feel good, right?
You go into like this different format where you start with a B05.
You actually use gold in this and so like you're saying everyone has, like stand up
performances, you start playing your own heroes, stuff like that like to just start
off the tournament, that feels amazing.
It also helps that blitz was, you know, commending tofu at the end of the kind of series
series well like he's going because of tofu's ideas and like little things like that's what
helped him kind of get over the line and I think when you've kind of rewind a bit when they first
started their ideas are actually conflicting and maybe hurting them getting into good places in
tournament so so the fact that it's now kind of like merging it is scary to think like where
they could go now that these ideas are actually kind of working together. Oh for sure it's so much
fun to see if there's going to be any more unique here as well but we can also talk about Yandex
in a road because that series almost I wouldn't say felt like the inverse of the first one
but it was so chaotic there was no way that you could see what was going to get
drafted for either team how matchups were going to play out how team fights were going to be
who was really going to bring everything to the table. Yeah you bring your star play from
South America and then you put them on it and make the many couple games in a row. It's a rough
one all right. I saw like, hey, Robert, they got a bit too creative. They they cooked a little
bit too far and then the players were able really to truly showing again on fatigue that's
why I'm saying this.
Right.
I will also say, you know, there's like the stuck stand and we saw the whisper Phoenix
off-lane, which he's done really well before, but it felt like he wasn't really at the
tip of his game and I do also credit that a little bit too.
He was off-lane, moved to Midland, has moved back to off-lane.
There is still a lot of time.
It's only happened a month ago, I want to say.
So you can't expect things to just click like that.
I mean, they're just a messy team, they're like messy and chaotic and you could tell it not just from their gameplay
But also from like the way they were drafting I think that people saying they were getting a little too creative and like cooking a little bit too hard
Because like what was the most overcooked draft two three four those games
I'm actually okay with I like with the third one. Oh, okay. I actually like this second one
I personally just don't love to and four. I mean even like
Like the first one I remember exactly what we said in the draft.
This one I was like more on defense about the two and four.
While I can see them work, I think.
Because draft thing isn't just about what you have and what you want.
It's about how does it interact with what the enemies actually have.
And it's just like if I have too long my bro on the team, you know, I want to give
him something a little more spice.
Yeah.
I mean, I think any of those drafts, if you look at them in a fact, you can be like,
you can defend them.
I think the real issue with them comes when you look at them, compared to the other teams
draft.
They were just sort of picking stuff that made no sense against what the other
team had, whereas you can say, oh, on their team, there's some synergy, this hero's
good with that hero, or there's a theme running, but I think you're, you're, they
just kind of picked themselves a lot of the time.
Yeah.
I think I might have been the game to drop as long as it was slightly, because it was like
a nigma was there, it's wants to buy from, and then they still picked the us, which
five relaxed play against because they didn't want to be out of the work.
That was the work.
It was a lot of, like, back and forth that didn't eventually.
And that's when it's like when you move away from draft and game, like that's when doing
really cool things with a draft that you could say on paper looked worse because they were
winning the game, they take the version and they do the stuff and then you lose the fight
and then again you could critique that stuff, right?
So yeah, it's just don't put that much pressure on your team when it's like if you play
well you can win the game.
But like if you have a weak draft and you play kind of averagely you probably will lose
again.
You need to be so careful with this stuff and yeah, I wrote it just didn't draft accordingly
to try and win a tournament.
Like at the same time, I think it gives me hope for this team because we haven't seen them in this
constellation for a while, but I actually think that their gameplay at least a certain times, it was quite high.
So, you know, these lawsuits and especially when, you know, they were going to talk about it like,
I don't really want to play like this. I want to do something different and drafts. I want to have a different hero.
That's very easy to like, fix, do something different, go into replays, go into your next screen,
and just kind of make it better for the next tournament.
Yeah, the potential for them is still very high, and the potential for today is also incredibly high,
because I'm going to get T-spirits up a little bit. I know you're a bit tired or something.
Why are you so confused?
I'm so scared.
What do you think has been one of your favorite things of every Blossom every day that we might have been missing so far?
Well of course.
You want to intro it?
Yeah, of course.
Okay.
So at Blossom, we have one of the most talented people in the world.
He is called the New Rio.
And he is the best SFM lad in the land.
And we have a play of the day.
So yesterday, the best play of the day will be encapsulated.
It has a firm unleashed in the eternity in the Easter of beautiful play history.
The show clip.
We'll get into the hype now.
Oh my god.
I'm not even going to have to take it out of the side of the fight.
Stakey's dead.
I don't know what else to say.
It cannot be more beautiful than that from liquid.
Well, look, a beautiful play from liquid, but even more beautiful as Sam from Dmitri.
So happy to have him back and producing something of that ST level.
Golder, like in an arena, or just like seeing it in a slightly different,
was like more effects.
It just hits different.
It's so good.
seeing my my goat. I'm feeling like he's he's he's he's been
demerial put it on the bingo car. I'm just like off camera he hates the hair
it's like oh I love you. I mean more like in-game. I'm bad here. I mean like
he loves the hair of and then here. I don't think we need a
Balls.
No, no, no, no.
He's doing this.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, actually.
I think I was going to do the basketball.
Okay, that's got a best plan.
That's kind of coming.
Well, look, we can see exactly the window.
What do you say Michael, jumping with the basketball is going to be playing today
because Nisha is going to be in the first series.
It's going to be followed by Navi and the Yandex.
So that one who really knows when it's going to be static, we're hoping around 7th
but who knows when it comes to best of five's, especially when it's a best of five between
liquid and OG.
Two teams, one semi-final, the same goal, the trophy, OG, pace center, straight to the semi-finals,
no detours, no quarter final scars, liquid, the returning veterans, battle tested, back
on the stage, and coming in hot from yesterday.
The group stage made the split clear.
Bogie stayed on the fast lane, locked in early,
for in the skip, about time to sharpen the blade.
Liquid's weighed off the highway right before the finishing line,
forcing them to run an extra lead.
Now they meet where shortcuts don't matter,
and momentum can be everywhere.
Rest versus rhythm, trailblazers,
versus veterans, danger, versus discipline.
They step onto the same stage,
But only one team gets to take the final step.
OG, the team that denies the Warmen, or Liquid, the team that ignited yesterday.
This is Blast Land 6.
And this is the semi-finals.
O.G. and a little liquid booking that tickets to the semi finals, a much easier
path to 40G getting to come in that one too slot when it came to group stages and now all
they had to do was get in that shuttle and make it here to ask you in multi or seeing both
liquid and the G having a bit of a relapse before, well could potentially be a marathon
of a best of five.
I think that relaxation is very important.
Like I talked to Asent over this morning, we're talking about, you play.
If they play the best of five yesterday, they play the best of five today.
And then another best of five that day after, that's a long haul.
And so I think the endurance, and it is a really advantage for OG.
I've been coming into this.
The fact that they're chill, they weren't playing yesterday.
They were able to watch and study liquid, do their drafts, and get, you know, all, much sleep as they want.
I think that is, that is something very sizable for them.
And with the best of five is that ability to have a bit of a warmup, right?
seen it before that in a best of three,
maybe you get caught off guard game one
and all of a sudden, back against the wall.
You can have that twice for yourself.
If it takes you that long, it might not.
But I'm just saying, we haven't seen a G for a little bit.
So it's been a while since our group stages
when these two came up against each other.
Yeah, I mean, you just have full creative freedoms, right?
When you are in about five,
I get me heard it from Blitz and other coaches yesterday,
like the idea that you get to test things.
Of course, OG Liquid, they are, again, very scary teams
and they're against each other.
they are so aggressive, they are, it was it, how did it describe it?
Like two frames, running at each other like into locking.
Because if you look at it, this was the opening game, and OG, I mean, they obviously got the bad hand of them, like Liquid scorelines aren't that pretty.
If you look at Natsumi, he dropped like a 19 bomb on them with his TA.
Like they play really well if they can play off of like early tempo.
But to be fair, that's just like OG's ammo.
Like they're never gonna not have early tempo, because even if they're lanes aren't that good,
good, like they're just going to play on it, make a big move, go through the game, bring
like a lot of people there. So honestly, this team, they're just sold them fast and I think
liquid, they play very similar, so it's like two teams that play a very similar style,
so there will be a lot of clashing and like early game skirmishes.
Yeah, this is the five-man roster of OG now, SEA, SEA, I'm sorry, I've got to chip
my SEA boys like this region, they're going to do it to this region, it's all I'm going to
It is inevitable right when you look at these players what they're doing like what SBA can achieve in
the historically there's been T1s, there's been booms, there's been TNCs, like there's been
moments in history where S.E. has done it but it's never been consistent OG is moving in a trajectory
that they are becoming consistent. They're always going to be top six and tournaments they go to
then now they're top four physicians but they are on this path to be the next S.E.A. team
to get a trophy win in the T1 kind of land space and they can also can't be underestimated how
difficult that actually is. European
clubs are so much better than other
every other region. So if you're
staying in SCA, you have worst
scrims, you have worst pubs. You have
worst practice in general, which means
you need to be working extra hard to
stay on that same level as the
teams that are bootcamping with
better practice. I think it is
genuinely incredibly impressive
to any team that is not from
European continent is able to
stay on the top level.
I don't know. I'm a good
pretty well, winning two T-hives
just S-A and those pubs.
And that was before the
high side.
This guy didn't even need to play
pubs. I don't know.
He was like making a maple story before their actual official game.
He's just an anomaly.
That's the relaxation that OG are also channeling with.
Why just going to play some games?
We're just going to rock up.
It's a best of five.
We get to enjoy what he's going to be the long run here for us.
Yeah.
And that's where I think when you look at OG in liquid, they're very different teams.
And how they got here.
Right?
Because when you look at qualifies for best of five,
how do you get to your tournaments?
When you look at OG, they are playing.
Oh, he didn't even fit on the on the graph right because again OG they're always going to SDA
They haven't the play out these qualifiers and then they get to the tier one man is a whole number story
But to liquid they don't really have to play many best the five historically right often in Europe
You get best of three to qualify for tournaments because there's more slots in other regions
So again to qualify liquid hasn't really experienced them as much as the OG players
But then when you look towards the lands when you get to the events
How does it look where does OG go? They disappear, right? Of course, SEA hasn't really locked in many trophies compared to the likes of Liquid, so both teams have best to five experience the difference is
OG it's at home, it's at bootcamp it's online liquid. It's listing the trophy. It's you know
Creating legacies, so there is experience on both sides, but Liquid just has the upper hand of course on in regards to you know the setting here
Yeah, let's hear from two of the OG players though and see just let thoughts about a best of five format
I think this format is not really bad, I mean you can really determine who's the better
team, because in the best of trees, like sometimes like a fluke, like just a fluke
wind, but in best of time I think it's like you're really determined who's the better
team.
I think the format is pretty unique, it doesn't really follow the most used format compared
to the other tournaments.
I think this one brings the cake up being the most, I don't know, maybe just, uh, top, how do I say this?
Top performing team, that's being, it's a very rewarding for the top performing team, yeah.
You know, that's one thing that we didn't really dive into is when you win this best of five because you're
so used to it being in a finals, does it bring that similar sort of adrenaline rush full,
or even though it's not necessarily the end of a run
is it like we went through all five games,
all we went through a whole best to five
and came out because there is no more
humming and harming if we deserve it or not.
Because that's what I was talking about that.
I feel like it should at least add a little more.
I mean, maybe that's not feel quite like winning a grand.
Cause you should when you win a B5,
you're winning like a grand finals of a tournament.
That's what I see.
I think you're going through like more emotions,
more time of the same series against the same opponents
with your teammates.
So it must add, I mean, it's got to add something.
Yeah, I think it helps up because they've played so many best of five to get different settings,
just having the discussion of like what happens after a game 2 loss for your O2 down?
Like, if you never had that type of talk before, you won't know what's going to happen here,
but because they've both experienced it, they've understood all the different dynamics.
Like, what 26 versions of series from Tim's like, there's so much right.
They're going to be ready for this. This shouldn't be a best of five where like one team just lacks the experience.
I think it also builds like cohesion and camaraderie. Like, it's a really long time,
best of us are incredibly exhausting, mentally and physically. And so if you call
to the other side of that victorious, I think it builds a lot of like we did
just together, I think it can be a binding experience and can be very, very good
for the future when you come out on top of the best of five.
Alright, well, well hopefully OG are going to get to feel that full of themselves today
because we're wondering just what sort of place out they're going to bring to the table.
Is it this OG that we saw in groups that was so consistent and able to win games
in a short and quick concise model?
Yeah, like if you look at these two teams, they have so OG has the fastest tower taken on average by
Minit 10 they will always have one taken liquid aren't like the top four with 11 minutes
But if you look at it in the majority of the game stable always be the one that takes the first tower
They set up the pace. They play the early game boxy runs around get some kills on OG you have your patch who goes to Niko's lane
They make some stuff happen. That's when you go through the gate
So let's just already like you can tell going into this game no matter what there's gonna be a lot of clashing lanes are super important
and the active rules, just like how every hero interacts with one another, the small
moves they make is going to be so, so damn important.
And that's where OG is so scary because they are ready to bring five heroes to engage with.
Like we're looking at some replays here, right?
Again, Tundra at the full team in about a second wisdom, they bring the five heroes here.
And this is where they can off, just go on, all five heroes in the Tundra.
It was just, thank you very much, and that's your OG dying, so my bad, I've just ruined this clip.
Anyway, moving on, I've just blown to that one, I said I was tired this morning.
This is OG actually, they got it right here.
This is except I wanted.
OGs, they go aggressive, they bring the fires.
And that's what scary.
So again, ignore the last clip.
I've no idea why I added that.
That was me being perceived this morning.
But this is the cool clip.
Be ready for this liquid.
When they bring the heroes, you know,
what can you mention when you're taking the early tower,
they're not afraid just to be ready and to fight.
That first clip is pretty.
This is a four man vacuum ice pack.
Yeah, I don't know why I call for that.
I literally, on the other hand,
I'm going to shut all this morning on the phone.
Yeah, I'd that clip and whatever.
Oh look, you're talking about OG bringing the numbers,
having that aggressive play stall.
It's worked out for them.
That's how they made it to the semi-finals,
but liquid themselves.
They don't necessarily need the numbers to find success
because yesterday, my goodness,
knees are absolutely popped off.
That's not to say everyone else didn't do great,
but it kneesha really stood out.
It honestly reminded me of like,
kneesha times of old,
but he's been great for a long time,
but I think that was a period.
On secret some years ago,
it was like, he was untouchable.
No one was even close to this guy in the game.
And that's how that those that series felt yeah watching this guy the way he was playing he was so ridiculously locked in that
He was playing to his hero to the absolute limits of what it could do any game that could be won by his hero was
The item bills were perfect the gameplay. It was like genuinely
Machilet and today I'm looking forward to is he still in the unreal zone as he playing to that like absolute peak
Because to me, I think a piece of each of that's the height of gameplay that anyone can reach
Like it's hard to go any more than that and so I'm genuinely excited to watch this guy play because he is pure excellence
I think it will be a different series though because
Your approach is going to be ready to actually try and count to him in lane. I think Malrin the guy who plays in the back foot the sacrificial style mid lane
Like I'm ready to play into any matchup. It's going to be a different time around like we saw niche was all on his left right game
He didn't look that amazing. It's going to be the start that we show first
But it's like yeah, it was okay, but it wasn't like oh my god niche you're untouchable like that
That's the voice for again in the final game with the series, right?
So I think there is going to be a point where OG are going to be ready to go. You know what niche
We're not going to give you these three voice for this game, three stones for a game, but we are going to try and stuff you
Yeah, I'm going to say they better be ready for that right because it's not just like it's niche up
Who's like really popped off, but I think it's also like how all the other people like play with them around the map
No, 100% and I think like you mentioned your posh. I think
This is like one of my big question marks is I think your posh is much less experienced in these types of situations
his niche as a player who's very cool and he's very clutch.
He's been in a million finals a million high pressure situations.
And so I've got a lot of question marks on your punch because I think he has the skills to pay the bills.
But he did work wake up in the mental state to actually be clutched
and to actually compete against these players to have way more experience than that.
But if he isn't, then you didn't have to rely on your team to help you, right?
No tournament is about all five players playing at 110%.
In the tournament, one guy is not going to be playing at that.
And then you're going to lean with someone else.
So let's say your approach is not able to beat Nisha in the mid lane
because of this excellence that you're talking about.
Someone else in OG is gonna have to come fix that
be it through a ruined contest or a certain hero pick
to threaten the mid ball.
Like how a Mar play doom to stop Nisha's actually
acting like they're in for, right?
Like there is ways to deal with this,
but I'd like to think that OG is gonna be
on a team level just ready for this.
Yeah, I mean there's definitely chances for that,
but we also had a chance to speak to players directly
about what they thought of Nisha's performance yesterday.
Anisha popped off and kind of won't be five.
So we try to do a best to make sure he has a great start
and great hero matchups or whatever.
Just make sure he's in a good mood, I guess.
And yeah, good things will happen.
I mean, anisha played really well yesterday,
but I think also my green no matter what we pick,
maybe just picks like his own hero.
Like there's not really a lot of lane pressure.
And I guess they're supports didn't commit that much.
I feel like I'm every game, like mean to film a mid.
and we ganked this guy and I don't know how he was just kinda solo.
But obviously I think this shot played really well.
And hopefully he'll do the same today for those.
I'll find our blinds just to kill teamly good and yeah, I don't really care about them.
I would argue and play just to kill them.
Yeah.
If I had to describe it with, I wouldn't call those sack of potatoes.
But I guess I would say, you know, like that finished him, like mission, who was it
Mato and four anchors?
Maybe it's more like that.
It would be like Nisha and four friends.
About Nisha, for me, I think it's just like normal.
I trust my, my mid-laner, so yeah, double red team push you.
You think we don't say to you play my idol for a reason and you got
doubting whether you're part just going to wake up on the right side.
Brother doesn't have to be able to bring his nation to midday.
That's all I'm going to say.
Yeah, bro played in soccer fiber belly and I think he'd better be able to play the
top of his game no matter where you're going to be.
Oh, you're not to drive any like that.
I mean, I'm just saying, you know, because Quinn top was earlier.
It's not easy to just like play and see all the time.
You know, you had your part you played in NA, you had Nico.
He was on Mars already last year.
and you're bringing all this experience in,
it's needed.
Yeah, there is one question
though around the game.
Isn't necessarily when it comes
to the skill matchup, right?
It's what, yeah, they're gonna be able
to draw off to themselves,
because what you guys have noticed
a little bit in the offline,
is it feels like there's a clutch that, right?
They're always going for this docks here,
this moths, that's what's giving them
the leg up and the advantages
in the games they have on.
Yeah, they're spamming these heroes.
They have them in all the games
they've won with had these heroes,
and I think that liquid, something they can exploit.
like it's very good at banning heroes
at figuring out what they want.
And so I think, well, I'll have to see in this draft
if that crutch, you know, potentially gets exploited.
Yeah, I think it's also just,
it is interesting to, like, also in the Stankles,
like, when they're saying they do spam a lot of heroes
with like, what they do, right, like, the docs here
and the march as well, where I think it is very important
that they do get those heroes, but also,
if you look at Liquid, I think they've been spamming
a lot of their own heroes, like they had razors
in like a lot of their games yesterday.
And while it looked good later, I think a struggle
to a little bit with at least early on.
So that's also something for OG, like you wanna give it,
you want to kind of play it, you'll give it and then just like kill him early on, cause
for liquid, it looked good later, but it looked very exploitable in the early game.
I mean, Niko has always just done the same thing from the offline, and I think A. She has
then the best of five. His optimization was like changing in every game, right?
No, his one game is good or is it? And then he fed it raise a game where he was trying to
go like, yeah, should be keeping a bit more right-click. Then he went back for hours again.
So I think A. She's trying to still find like, where do I want to land with my type of
optimization or it's just dynamic? It's going to be game to game. But that's where I think
There's going to be a disparity where Niko is like every game. I initiate. I have an aura.
I'm ready to fight and Ace. Again, it can just differ. So there will be a really intriguing
one to see what happens in this series. Yeah, it will be of course in this series. It's not
just going to be us talking about it the whole time. We want to check into without cost. It's
going to be Owen and Foggan. Bright and early. Owen, are you ready for five more games here on
day two? Oh, I'm in our home. So, absolutely. I mean, yesterday, we nearly got the full turn. Obviously,
You know, it did get rather late without going, you know, two full five game series and
going five games than four games.
Today, yeah, we might get all the 10 games.
I certainly hope so, especially five without this first series, OG versus Liquid, a lot
of people have been waiting for this one, again, to see OG on the main stage, going as
a liquid, who look pretty hot, you know, niche, in particular, yesterday, yesterday's performance.
I can't wait to see how they're going to clash, we're going to get some crazy hero picks
for sure.
Yesterday we saw Liquid bring us new stuff from Rubik, hope we get to see that again.
And obviously OG, we know that always got some, you know, special ideas to bring out and
surprise us with.
Yep, folks, were you listening in when my boys were talking about what they expected
for the matchup?
Do you have any criticism on either them or the players?
And them as well, too?
Yeah, yeah, I'm all for them.
I don't know.
No, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
No, it's just, I'm really excited because this one, I feel like the matchup, for
these two teams, like we have something that like to play a bit slower.
These two teams are super fast.
I think it's just going to be crazy killing crazy fighting.
Yesterday we had a game.
I think most of our games on we had like kind of like low kill count.
Yesterday we had one that was like 46 kills at like 20 minutes.
So they got to break that record today.
They better do it.
Nisha is going to go crazy probably canja poihandal it.
That's got to be the question on most people's mind.
Yeah, but we've definitely been asking that one.
We're going to take a bite of you guys for now, though.
And we will be checking in with you of course when the game stopped.
But thank you so much for giving input.
Owen and fog to the alley causes for this best of five.
So there's so much that we get to look forward to most importantly, a game one draft.
I feel like we should've just gotten no one and fucked in here to the preamble of what
is going to be no doubt one of the greatest bestifiers we'll get to watch here in
a multi-but-a-ulta start off with this game one drop. Just what exactly is going to
be pulled out other even deeper pockets on the side of liquid that we're yet to see
after. What I'll end point it out that Rubik pick up yesterday and our OG going to be ready
for that how exactly is this matter in a best of five going to eventually
compete with what we saw yesterday when liquid played against Falcons. Yeah I mean we're
are already gonna have some differences and that liquid is going to band-batterut or when
their second pick apparently is OG is first pick this game so that's very different
than the series yesterday where Falcons band did every single game so that's always gonna
be one of the big things in these first days is which heroes are you banding on both
sides and which heroes are you just banding under enemy's first pick that's gonna change
a lot of what goes through and how the meta evolves is gonna be based off this first game
and off of those bands.
And already quite intriguingly the OG of banding out here that they picked on first pick themselves
fight, the SDNG care have been first pickers for them, but they are removing them. And of course
Mars is like the next tier that they have sometimes first pick, due to the fact that they
can flex it between mid and offline. So we'll see if liquid is going to respect that, but
yeah, OG since group stage has adjusted their kind of band priority. I'd like to go on the
point, I feel like the Gekirabine is kind of interesting because it does go to tell you because
OG have played it, they are first pick. So if they wanted it, they could either force the
liquid to ban it or take it themselves, which is means they're looking for a different first pick
to open, to not give the Jukiro as a trade, or they just don't want to play plus 5 Jukiro
maybe because of the match up against Boxy, maybe they want someone that, you know, stops
the dog from running wild on the map like a clockwork later on, so it is kind of interesting.
So the status here in the pool and response to this, they chose not to take the Mars,
like he's a bit first picking a little bit here in there. So going for the big flying snake,
which makes a lot of sense, the heroes have been very, very powerful. We saw it when a couple
games yesterday and then it was full band I think at all the liquid games so I'm
curious to see what Liquid play again.
I mean, I'm here as you what Liquid play again.
I mean, I'm here as you can see, I'm here as you can see, I'm here as you can see, I'm
like a little PTSD from Liquid because that is what that to me was playing in the
group stage and absolutely clapped them in that.
My boy, John, he dropped 19 kills on them so you got to respect him.
But it doesn't make sense of course, and he should be very active killing midlainer if
you do put him on a nickmo, he's gonna be up to still do that.
I am shocked that they're using this much reserve time.
Like, surely they would have an expectation
that OG would tick the diaper,
but they've used almost half of the reserve time
already on the first pick.
This is so different, yes today.
Hey, I think the reason why this may be some
conclusion that, if this type of prep is like,
the thing that's already locked in,
if the VIP you go to this, this TA, you go to this,
this mall is like, that's already like the easiest
prep of a draft, but even way they do take a minute
to then take the shot of the end.
Again, these are the two heroes that are often banned
in the first phase, so no surprise to see them here.
Yeah, I mean, I do agree with Quinn.
I think it shouldn't take you that long,
but there are some heroes.
I would say that are a little harder to read,
like their power level, like,
because Viver doesn't have that many counterpics,
so it's like maybe you can go a bit more spicy,
but then it's risky, so then like you end up
going a little bit in circles, but going to the SF,
I think it's good, it's safe, it can flex.
You should be pretty happy.
Don't forget that, they only have one bound, right?
So maybe this wasn't a topic of discussion
on Shadowfinger is more if we are picking Shadowfinger, what's going to be our band?
Like how are we thinking about the future of the draft?
So again, we're thinking about the instant moment, but again, there's many more things to
happen in the draft.
They can use their reserve time at any point, of course.
And still, Muzz is available.
That is going to be a big error for me going into next phase.
Yeah.
And also for OG, I like that they're taking out the boxy clockwork for now.
Maybe talk about it in the pre-show as well.
when mentioned, Boxy, yesterday he played only melee heroes.
He's insane on melee heroes that get space and Ace is definitely an off-line added rule.
Give you this space if it's possible.
So there's Tusc, there's his clock.
He's played Earth Spirit before and it's something that can work.
I wouldn't necessarily say it's incredible against Viper when it comes to the damage.
I'll put you can get on top of the hero, you can potentially kick Viper back if the hero goes out of position.
So there could be some bonuses to that.
Yeah, very strong bands from OG.
But it does still feel like liquid will probably open next phase with that melee here that you're mentioning.
It would be the tiny hole, the asteroid.
I don't even know that's for it.
I will have to see what it is.
I think I'm curious to see what mid-hero liquid picks against Viper.
Shout-offing cannot land against Viper.
I mean you sort of can, but it's like way too risky.
It's not real.
So I would think they would look at something like a puck or heroes along those pucks sniper,
or generally the ones that people resort to against Viper.
It's time for SF, pretty garbage together, so I'm looking at
likely puck. That's what if OG creates a situation where puck is not that good
Then you can end up in a situation where what are you actually putting maybe because Viper reduces your purple as such a large amount
Mean the darks your ban. I will say it's very necessary. I don't really like you don't want to play SF into darks here
Also there's like some differences like where you're gonna lay in it and I think also
Overall like if I look let's see. Oh, actually likely different. Oh the Marcy
Did you say it, Earl?
I said, no.
Oh, I dropped the point.
Everyone's saying it was pleasant.
I mean, it's a little you.
Thanks.
Boxy Marcy, it hits different.
It's good.
So with the picking up facet, a lot of the issue
the Viper is just getting stuck in the position.
But as far as I know, you're kind of in his area.
But if Marcy is able to grab the hero that Viper is going to go,
now over here, like Viper is looking to be able to reposition quick enough.
So I like it just without the urge that it prints to need brains.
really clean lockdown, of course, at the prime of the
base, then the win-win-ranger. So, yeah, just specialties, of course,
Nico on the offline prime of the base, and then not
soon he's carry-win-ranger.
This is such as the awful core straight-up.
Potentially, yeah, I think it might be support when
Ranger. Yeah, that that one's definitely flux.
I have my doubts about this support, Marisi. We've seen it a
couple times, and my issue is that as the game progresses,
it becomes incredibly difficult to do anything if you're not
super-formed and you can actually get the BKV because you can't jump in and do any damage.
You're pretty much just to save eventually as the game progresses.
So, especially against all these spells and like random practice going up from OG's line
about the stuns, lows and just stuff, Marcy will not be able to do damage right-clicking
in this game.
So, it comes down to, is your early game good enough?
Can you get the snowball running and can you play off your cores because you want an individual
base will not be doing very much?
Yeah, you are pretty much waiting for someone else in your team to kind of utilize your
tool kit, you know, just murdering by yourself, but it's very good. They want to, I mean,
this is already a sign of they want to play into mid lane, right? Like when you're picking
central, and you have a full position mercy, central is going to be kind of left on an island
at some point, and the mercy is just going to be walking towards mid and going, hey, this is
my new home, we're going to draw land you, we're just going to keep fighting you, even if
the twin gate and create a trial in, like the six minute plus mark, so all I see from
from liquid is then trying to be the aggressors.
Again, two very aggressive teams.
I mean, I like the OG's double pick quite a lot.
I think primal is good what are SF is safe lane or mid lane.
If he's mid, you rotate on an quite nicely.
If he's safe lane, you can cut his waves.
And the wind range will be talk about it.
It's flex.
I think like liquid, you know, they're happy with the centaur,
because it's, you know, it's fine against Viper.
You get to old, but wind range now can just be played as a four.
I mean, I would at least, you know,
you could at least consider not playing it as a core
into the centaur.
So you could pick a new carry, a guide
it is quite happy against Centaur.
Generally, you want like over damaging heroes,
even jumpers are quite good.
I will say when you apply for some expense
and or so it's a definitely yours
that should come to mind before I would you.
And it's in pick of the case.
But yeah, for liquid, they have six seconds left to know, right?
Because of course, they use a minute of it
for the shadow being picked.
And now they have put those none going into the final two
bands and pick for them.
And I think while like Centaur makes sense here
in that it's goating against OG's heroes,
it's surprisingly me they picked the offline there
and leave the sort of soft SF like so.
because I don't think Shadowfiend made his good against Vipergyl.
Like you'll mention the rotating mid,
but these mid moments are incredibly important.
Because as a false behinding in Viper,
you will chain feed Viper will get really early bots,
and he will gank the sidelines
and your map will collapse.
So I think, well, Sintar is great against Viper in the game.
It is mean that they can ban the Lina and the Pock
and these random counters to the Viper mid
and you can end up with a strange yearl last pick
and liquid straff can look a little odd.
Yeah, I'm currently feeling like the liquid
that are getting kind of cornered in the draft.
Just to even go back to this primal that you can play
incredibly well, I think he has a very good game.
Even if he gets counterpicked in the lane,
I think he's just going to cut.
I think then you have a super mobile guy.
Viper will have early travels.
You have like Kens plus whoever they want to pick on the five on skim.
I think OG are currently cooking up the sauce
that they've been using that entire tournament.
And even with the board of pick from liquid,
going into a primal beast,
We saw when Spirit was playing what I can do the primal beast against their G,
like he was panther was trying to use the column,
but with the pulverized size of the AOE,
unless you can't see the column animation multiple times,
so you need to be careful,
that you're positioning what it needs to always be very defensive.
If you ever missed it, you might even not even be able to count
so the hair that you're picking the hero for.
Thus, skim play disruptor.
The leading part, that's so interesting.
That I do also think that that's interesting.
I feel like this level has been the best ban.
I mean, maybe it was Centaur, like it can help the sniper to let him play even more.
But like if I'm OG, I think you put the wind range before.
I would be kind of looking at five's dad.
I think abuse that it's like a double melee lane, and you can maybe counteract this stampede even more.
I think something else they've used is like zombies.
So if you want to pick undying to have more teamfighting in a bit more roach,
I think that's one avenue.
But if you want to play on even more tempo, I think this Raptor 5 could be cooking here.
Well, with the Spurberkin tiny band there, thinking that the winner in
when you can just be the five-dition here.
And then they find a new fourth urging.
It could be.
I mean, it is definitely it is open.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe you don't really want to play range fours
like into Warlock into the lane,
so that like Windrange or Publicals five,
yeah, it can only be four.
But I mean, I personally wouldn't mind playing Windrange
with that much in the top lane.
I think you can be fine.
Yeah, I'm very curious that they go for here.
Like there's, I mean, they might pick something
like a dazzle, which we're all good that here it was.
But I do, like I think there's rationale for it this game.
There is.
Like you mentioned, when there's double melee,
you either want to pick something that's greedy,
or something that owns an in lane, what on?
I mean, I guess it is winter, in the safe lane.
So you're right about that.
Bounding out there is a classic counter to warlock
because you don't really lane.
And you play on the side, you buy vessel very early,
which is very, very good against the heels and all this.
And you're able to gain, can pressure mid,
a shadow-fiend, and potentially this last pick here,
I'm gonna can sit on them, camp them,
and you've got a lot of aggressive snow-walling potential
from OG, like this is very on-brand for them.
You'll mention it earlier, and I totally agree.
This is very them, and I like it a lot.
I'm just nervous at the time for liquids,
so they're just gonna have to look in a hero,
and we'll do good for the pot.
But, I hear this discuss pretty much entering the second phase.
And yeah, I think the OG, it's a matter of,
when you are lane-skipping for your primal,
what does he do when he gets that blink that go?
Right, like if he gets the blink,
and he creates the chaos, and then opens up next to me
to be happy because he got Vlad's lesson you're going to kill,
then it's going to look good, but I feel like for liquid at least,
it's, it is like they feel happier the longer the game goes.
The more or as they get, the more defensive items they get to deal
with this skirmish and just nuisance to OG has.
But OG, they have the tools to be very potent.
Yeah, I like OG's early to mid game quite a lot.
I think to me, it has a lot to do with also tall food
the war walk I think how much you get and can get done. I think it's like they're biggest
counter-team fight possible. Whereas OG I think you have like the primal going around
vibrance is super good lane. So I'm kind of leaning OG on this one.
I think our crowd is as well. They are a little bit maybe. I feel bad because one guy
started doing the lekochon and then all the OG guys were like how bad are you?
I mean they told the challenge. They were about to build it. So the lekochon got the hype
but the OG kind of finished it off. Well this is your chance to win over not only OG fans
but also the audience by giving me all the hope you can about this OG lineup.
I mean, I think they have very good chances both casual and T. I think set a lot of correct things.
I think they have done good stuff themselves. I think it's a little interesting.
They leave the puck and that's the one question mark for me.
It is a very good puck game.
Nisha is arguably the best puck player in the world.
And so I think if time was on, Nisha can go, Nisha and I'll go ahead and eat mode.
So that's my only question mark besides that. I think OG is done great.
Well, OG has to be careful. If you have a misstep and you're running into a coil, a raccoon,
and the golem would say to the bonds, like, you,
every here was getting it deleted, right?
So OG, even with their aggressive,
they need to know their limits.
Anything else for you, Kazoo?
The lost remarks that you can about a draft like this?
Uh...
No, I agree for all the points of the Nisha Park,
but I will say I have seen Mr. Natsumi play the kez
in, like, good lanes, which he has this time around,
and he stands on really nice rotations, like, into the mid lane,
that can surprise people, so,
that got my eyes on the kez.
That's true, we've talked about it many times,
just what Nish can do in the midland, but we didn't really talk so much on just how Natsumi
has been able to pop off as a carry player, and he's got a catch for himself here. Oji
making it straight into a best of five semi finals while Liquid had to battle it out yesterday
in the court at finals, we'll see just where the stamina is for both of these team.
I would get into our first game of today's Best of Five.
I want an absolute treat. We're going to have it today here in this Best of Five between Liquid and OG.
Fogged already the draft very much delivering. We're getting both teams coming in with our own
sort of unique identity. And we're going to get to see them clash head to head, looking at these
two lineups so far. What do you make of it? Is there one of these that to you sort of speaks
a clear root, clear root to victory? Is there anything that's sort of got question marks when
you look at it right now in the lineups? Not sure about question marks, really. Both drafts
look very strong. I think just different approaches, right? I think OG looking for, we were just
talking about before. It's a lot of small skirmishes coming out of lanes ahead, finding
these small skirmishes high individual burst damage early with the district in the power
shot. However, later on, team fight definitely a bit lackluster for the side of OG,
especially in comparison. I mean, liquid, everyone has some good contribution to a big AOE
team fight control. It's just going to be up to OG to scout things and pick and choose
those battles. I think that's why this bounty hunter is going to be something I'm looking
at at least. A lot of crucial movements, a lot of crucial scouting knowing where the
Warlock is knowing where to pick and choose those skirmishes.
But we're in for an absolute treat because we do have Nisha on a puck versus
limited stuns and Nisha I'd have to just talk about it.
Yes, because he went super send in all five games.
Even the games they were losing, he went pretty nuts.
So you'll pass your guy your work cut out for you.
You do have an aboundy hunter that's going to be roaming probably for you.
So let's see what you can do.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to see what Nisha can do.
Those high mobility heroes.
Yes, today he's void spirit.
How many games were I think you've sort of ended up
just the ones could up and again here if OG's not able to deal with him but you've
only got to imagine that yesterday OG, they probably spent it kind of glued to
the, to watch the games that were going on right, watch you what was going down
from Liquid and I can only imagine that Nisha is going to be the top of their focus
in this series as they're going to do their best to make sure that Nisha doesn't get
to explode as he did yesterday.
Step one for OG, they're planning, step one worked.
Nico got the cut the way.
I've seen so many games where these problems
go to do this with a blood grenade,
and then the whole way of gets denied.
They get killed, and actually happened yesterday
as well as if they lost three creeps while attempting.
So I'm putting them in this calculator.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tofu.
I'm going to try and make a play over the three of them.
I'll be able to get the kill.
So if you're able to stay safe with the shadow word, heal.
So just fully starting as this tri-lane,
because of the situation, you see that Nico is getting stuff anyway.
Trying to get that first kill. I think oh, G in her relic are the two teams that I see do this the most often
Where they go for a first blood and a lane and they just break the lanes afterwards
See talking about that mid matchup. I mean, what will it also if you're expectations when you see that you're here as one the one the puck versus the Viper
Easy lane finisher hard lane. Okay. So it's a challenge. You're saying finisher. It should be a bit of a challenge
Yeah, I think Elpaj can do some pretty good stuff to bully and he's got a bounty behind him
I think that's the reason why that I'm giving in more of that edge
I think it's a very skill-based matchup though a lot of these pucks of actually impressed us
So I'll put the acid beating a void spirit with tree armor, which is pretty impressive
So is that was Chira Junior?
So a very skill-based matchup
And as you said, Nisha was pretty out of control yesterday
So
So bottom we're seeing the wave dragging, it's already occurring
Because continues to do that. Tim is even dragging the second very way of just not playing the lane versus making a boxy
Top lane
This is an interesting choice that they went for the warlock
You know, we were mentioning a couple of the things about it. They have a set of buttons up like this. Yep, but then it's like
They don't really have killed through that top at all. It's just this sustaining hero the whole real purpose of talking in this game
Is the goal of them to drop and cancel the
Primal beast to ultimately at some points besides that. It's just like a chill warlock. He's just keeping a sustained
looking forward to to see for most of you side of things in the safe land.
What now, assuming he does for the build, I feel like never one of them.
Then it's one of them lane teams.
Steps up gets caught in a couple of raises.
That's going to be first club for Mick Kay and
very much seeing the reason why they're doing whatever they can down there,
or due to not really play the lane right.
Because when they do meet,
Mick Kay's going to get the chance to line those raises up pretty easily.
Is it broken, Lane?
It does feel like it doubled the kind of
not double repositioning, but almost in a way, double reposition with triple raises.
Now, we give those.
stepped up a bit far.
Now we have a count on top of him, but it's going to be able to turn and get a raise off still.
I mean, as long as Bob sees it around and he's got a cool down ready to pop, he should
be able to have some sort of means of getting me case safely away from any attempt to
Nico and Thames, you know, hence why this lane is just not, you know, at least for now
a lane that the two of OG can really get aggressive on towards him.
He's going to feel pretty safe down there, make it.
And let's see how much boxy action moves, but because because of that, right?
he can't really do what I think liquid likes to do is go to check those
ruins and a lot of situations. I thought box you just have to stay here. If you
leave, it's as constant killed through it on to make it. Oh absolutely.
The lane positions, if the lane is in a good position for Niko, which they are
trying to reset it. So boxy, great job of stopping that ball.
Now we know he's very, very good at realizing when those sort of situations
do arise right. If they know he's alone, they're going to be straight and underneath
that's here one tower.
It's your fault for the boss.
It's a control.
It's a dime for this one.
No quite working out.
It's bad that time around there, liquid.
Before playing defensive, just ensuring that Mick can stay safe
and turning out a sense of emoji this time.
They try and get something going themselves aggressively there.
Liquid ends up costing boxy his life.
I'm surprised he goes aggro.
I thought this was going to be a much more defensive lane.
Just because Mick is free for me.
You don't need to push the envelope so hard because they wanted to try to punish.
off now could try for it again, but yeah,
sometimes with these heroes with the repositioning,
have you seen like the Magnus support versus the,
the pride of these as well?
Yeah, you did a lot of damage fact himself,
with just lifting and throwing them back.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely right when the trample's out.
You got to be careful when you're going to die around.
So he's going to be just trampling a lot of you.
So they'll definitely, I mean,
imagine after that as well,
yeah, Micka is probably just saying,
you know, bro, just chill.
I'm having a great time.
I'm having free farm,
top of the CS right now,
Now, Mika, he's not looking for anything crazy out the lane.
He wants to keep a chill, keep it in the creeps.
He's having a safe time.
They don't need to go chasing for kills.
It's an easy enough lane as it is, but the setup.
Mm-hmm.
Agreed.
And remember how I was saying that, you know, on the pre-show,
what kind of ton of kills, of course.
These first five minutes looks like it's a kind of be quite a bit more chill
just with these lane setups, but still I do think they're worth it for a pretty
explosive team.
Oh, jeez instead of themselves.
All they want to do is kill.
First five minutes, Alicia, I definitely want to slow us.
So mid lane matchup at the moment, he's just doing very very close.
He's got that little bit of a lead.
I think that a nice d-ward there, just as the ops was actually about to expire, was able
to d-ward at in time.
So I'd make for a bit of a bonus there for an easier and that mid matchup.
The denies are the thing that really stands out for me to tend to nice, because yes,
you're always another toxing in pushing, so the range group can get denied.
But yeah, 11, compared to the six is a big deal.
Nesha's hit six first on top of that upsword, of course, that you mentioned.
to put down Shrio Paisons very much.
I would like you to be able to take the kill.
Can they get more little bit,
or could they have from Botsie tries to jump in
and initiate with the dispose,
but cut ends up helping Yopaises there
for him and him down to the save to the river.
Ends up being too dead on liquid.
Some of these early moves are a little off the mark.
And you know, Botsie sometimes comes in with these great moves up
and down the map for a few minutes.
It's a little bit rocky this time for them.
Little shaky and the two subports from OG,
they actually are way better at skirmishing around this room.
and contribute anything, the Marci's fantastic,
but yeah, we're like there's nothing.
So, James walks in, carries a little hit,
and now looking for aggressive moves.
I mean, it's a bit, because that's more quick.
This is exactly what sort of expected, right?
OG, as soon as they know the mid-case left muscle,
they'll look to punish him.
Now that he's got the six,
they're not gonna be able to continue to...
Mid for the kill.
But definitely shaking him up a little bit,
I'll get the board down as well,
beyond the tower that Tim's got some good info
for what backups coming in.
And in the case, gonna be fine this time round.
Good job that he did have that six allows him to sort of threaten them back when they dive in
But definitely showing how ready liquids got to be for those aggressive plays to come in from OG because they will come in on that bottom lane
100% boxy will find the words with those at least get a d-word is up to level four now
But gotta be careful with any of these movements your push
Getting himself a double kill now has that clip that separation at least at first is niche
This is definitely a timing right to bear in mind in this early landing stage.
What's your ever in the mid?
I've been strike throwing down on some of his niche.
Got him off.
Trying jump away.
We'll be able to dodge both of his shackles shot on the power shot.
So, niche will survive.
But definitely something to have in mind right.
You know, the fact that Mick K. Reckon's on called out for 90 seconds,
that is quite a period in which that he's not going to have that old to protect himself.
If O.G. looks trying to make a move down there.
They're going to get the catch on the rims.
So, liquid, tms, caught underneath the tower.
Foxy stands strong by McKay side here during these moments to ensure the
McKay not only stays safe, but gets the chance to pick up another kill in
this lane continues to just barrel ahead of you on the network.
Top net work right now on the safe land SF is out in a great time down there.
He set up for success.
It looks like they want to try for Nico.
They're going to glyph the flag bear but can't let go for the play.
Yeah, we try to push this for kills on and set down this primal.
He has hit six though so that they do have to be careful about the over
extension.
But they do not want Nico to get at least any type of advantage or
movement, which I don't blame the Montesigneco is pretty explosive after
landing phase. He just rolls in so many of the games he just moves around
constantly and already looking for Asia.
They're going to get the setup that catch him off to use the old
be still going to have the way and he ripped the jump up the high ground.
Oh, back off. So we'll manage to jump a little bit of a distance away from
Tim's quick reactions and an escape there from Nisha gets him just away in
time from both Tim's and Nikot defensive coil use though. So they did force that.
So for the next moments, they don't have to be careful of an aggressive movement
with it. Ace, he's chillin. He's got that dominary finish as the Ash Legion shield to incredibly
durable. Top for them to push him out of this lane. No, no, no, I'm just sort of keep eyes on what
Ace is able to do with this route. We're seeing a lot of these central players be very good with
how they sort of manipulate the creep waves with the helmet dome pick up. It is very annoying to play
against. Especially if your supports can't deal with it or kill it at all either. Who wants to
deal with this? Which probably will be no, nobody. So Ace is going to build the drag these waves
get pressure on to the tower too.
See, Boge even racks, or if they're just going to look at the play elsewhere.
Probably look at the play elsewhere.
Yopage does have lots of travel finish, so it can be very mobile.
They want to steal stacks though.
That's the focus.
It's a nice little double stack.
They want to take away from liquid.
Dice super fast, so.
Looks like they're thinking about A.
He's got stampede and started to take a lot of damage here.
He's a bit of a tough one to kill.
Shackles knock in the latch.
No, tree there.
The Stampi Gel already off and he is easily able to create enough distance and get back under the
safety of the Tier 1 tower. Still not going to be an easy kill really to go for.
At the moment, it's been forced out of liquid but it is allowing them to keep themselves alive.
Now that's used, they're all defensively, but it's getting the job done. They're surviving.
They're still going to get a good bit of pressure coming in there around the sea street.
On the med will see both Nico and Jopatch turn up and on Gita stop pushing back against Nesha
and tofu tofu is now hit for six so we'll have to go and ready for a play see over in the jungle
Tim's again chase down he's going to look for the tonight's the neutrals and he'll be able to find it there
as the tendrils of the deep comes in from the croaker.
Information gathering that's Tim's job.
Scouting out where the Marcia is scouting out where the park is keeping that information so they know
if there's a address and what they can make us and make a hill dive probably a lot on this
bounty hunter going for these information plays it feels like this game.
something probably appropriate because they don't want them to just build the sit back and
free farm on the side of liquid as we know, gee, they like to play skirmish heavy, they like to
play quick. Not soon, he has due to the death cell as well, not going through the farm route.
Oh, they can power shot.
I'm not the spot. I mean, I mean, they want to try and make a move aggressively now with the
dream coil back off cooldown and the fact that took all of this six. I mean, they could just drop
the odds on Nico here.
As a boxing, he's coming up to set up, they might over-need the odds, honestly, with
a control they have, they'll drop the goal and just show that he's not ever to jump out
or back up, it's not on the way, they get the kill, they'll turn it into a push-in, so
liquid, starting a group up now, 12 minutes in, ready to look to take these objectives.
And I guess they know right, any point of this early game, if Nico's off the map of
East Dead, OG are probably not going to look to form a sort of defense against these pushes
from liquid.
Niko is pretty crucial for the entirety of the teamfight on the side of LG to be honest with you, so if he's dead, it's hard for them to really make too many aggressive moves.
Niko has a lot of available. I mean, Yadpaj is getting very aggressive there.
He's going to force out the TP and scamp, he's there.
What's the NIH ready to close the gap on him?
He's in trouble!
He's not by the red quim.
I mean, anytime you sort of hang around in that tree area, it's sort of pressuring the enemy mid.
The go-to expect the sort of T.P. reactions come into play.
Maybe with the fact that Liquid showed so many down in the bottom lane,
your pace didn't think that there'd be that sort of T.P. level
of fact that we're ready to come in on the mid.
But it was there. Liquid turned up after killing the
go-bond-men taking the tower. They go over the walls of the mid lane.
Kill off your own patch. They get that tier one as well.
Liquid, they're starting to get the show going.
Liquid's been super-goated just in responding and just playing fast.
And that's why I was very excited to see these two teams match up
because of the pace that they both usually play at.
Liquid tonight, at least this morning right now, reacting just a bit better.
These movements, they're feeling strong to take any team fight.
Right now they don't have any cooldowns at least available, but they're still feeling confident
to take the fights.
But they might sack this tower since they have literally zero wolves.
Yeah, now that Nico and your patch are back out on the map, ready to stop,
pressuring objectives together.
Liquid, though, respect that, let the tower go.
Evan, your patch overall just has to be more.
He can't do that type of like super deep aggressive play if his primal beast is dead if his primal's alive
Maybe he can do something like that, but even then down was just a bit too deep
make it
In saying levels of farm for him 7200
Follow around with boxy and with topo not splitting away too much they're really playing together a lot here on liquid
I think for OG, the timing's they're going to be looking out right is having the blink
dagger done on necoes about 1400 into it and then obviously for now summing, that's so it's
pretty much completed when that's there, he's definitely going to be considering turning
up to some of these defenses if Liquid continued to play aggressive and fast into them
starts stepping up towards tier 2s. Obviously when the 20 minutes comes up looking
towards like the Torments and the Rochan and now summing, he's not going to be afraid to
get involved now. Now they actually are going for pipe also to time things on your
piles. Let's see if that ends up working. It is a ton of magic damage on liquid, but you
can never, I mean, it's a shadow feeling. This is one of the highest physical damage
right clickers at the moment. So, see if that works out for your piles going for this
this build. It can't make him fall off pretty hard if they don't win the fight
of the pipe. So, if a deep attempt to under the tier 2, they can't number the smoke
and make the jump out of an awards scan. They will kill him off. See if they can get out
because OG, they want to fight back, they get the set up one of those knees to the record
cover.
That was already there, they're killing these shots, jumping forward, they get the full
call for us.
There's liquid, they don't care that these just bad.
You know, they can take the punk OG, but Liquid, they were more than ready to keep
that fight going.
That was a rough effort from OG to try and punch back there against Liquid, ending up losing
four heroes to get Nisha.
I mean, OG Nisha, he's a very, very valuable kill, but losing four heroes for it, that's
that's not going to slow down liquid any time soon.
Now, this could get pretty painful pretty quickly.
I was just mentioning the Viper's build.
Right? If he's going to go down this pipe build,
he dies again even before having it.
No, he just dies. He gets completely massacred.
A picture perfect two-five from liquid without their centaur.
That's like a three-ve-four, a three-ve-five last time.
There. I'm just straight away the record and goal.
It was immediately ready for action.
Back in action, that's to me.
And I'm getting caught down on the bottom line.
So they might know a cutem in that sort of scenario over in the mid.
the mid, but as the game continues, OG not just losing the four heroes around the mid lane,
then losing the carry, randomly down on the bottom lane, liquid, they can't get you.
That's not in a pretty scary, pretty early on their folks.
Yeah, and they go G for overall with their lineup, they can't really be hammering like this
early.
Since they don't have team-fight advantage, it's not like they have an option at some point where
they're like, okay guys, we have a disadvantage, we're losing, let's group up and go.
The group up and go will just play into Lippetans with all these cool downs.
Wards is welcome. We see liquid's placement after that one team fight.
Tofu is placed two super deep wards to watch any movements that are coming out.
So liquid very on top of these, I mean, this part looks
the entire early game so far here.
See what I'm wearing. It was going to be a good.
I mean, as you say, obviously looking for the team fight.
It's not easy for a genet that they are behind down six K.
Obviously, Blinkdaga just delivered out to Woznikov.
They've got to play for spout 3 and just go the way.
Somehow I guess pickoffs in a way with the bounty scouting and then Boots of travel
and try to outnumber, but the problem is like when you lose these sequences of team fights
versus so many big cooldowns and big, you know, long duration cooldowns, they get to come
back up.
So everything is starting to come back up for liquid for that next engagement that kicks
off.
So let's see where OG does want to go.
Is that pipe is about to be finished for your posh?
I feel like if they need to win that next fight hard at the pipe or I'm not sure
with the, you know, plant B kind of is.
Tins.
Looking to scout out, liquidate the side.
Nico, go very nice.
Oh, put me here.
They'll get the angle for the shackles.
They've got Nisha Courts.
Very well done there between the two.
How it tends kind of giving me the, the, the vision sort of the,
the angle of initiation and Nico straighted.
Beautiful set up with the onslawns, the pulverized leaves.
Look at the more no chance to play out with any type of kill.
They're looking to get that outnumber of versus this heavy team fight draft.
It looks like liquid.
They're going to.
What are you going to age?
Tim's is going to do his best to stand top the line.
Liquid's looking at the Rocha.
I don't think they're going to go for the show.
It will form them up.
They're starting it.
They're going to try.
They still don't get the frame.
Strong.
It's true.
I guess Liquid will like what we don't care.
We're going to start going for this.
What are you going to do about it?
A few seconds.
He's just going to be back in the game.
the HP per second on Ace with the Crimson.
The most step away now,
and more content to get a kill first before they do go for that Rocham,
but I mean, they can, yeah, they're going to keep weaving in and out of the pair.
And now the question is,
can't I do something to stop this?
Or do you look at the fact that Lickons got every single ult in the ready to go?
And if you're OG, you say, well, maybe we can't boss this.
That's the best way to do this.
Gotta be some crazy spellcasting for them to outplay the good here.
This is a tough team fight to walk into if you're out of jail.
And no, Pat. He's sort of caught in the river.
Get the pipe off, but the rancrim is into the hood.
Stop, they've walked in down.
Just by trying to get out of the hood.
Tell him to fight for strength.
But he's already gone.
Yo, Pat is not out of point where he can really afford to just tank the front of the team fight.
Over to the side. Tim's his chase down.
I'm crashing in to take out boxing.
Yes, the pulverizer as well.
I've to watch it.
The whole group comes out from tofu.
One of the three of them, Oji, they've got to get out of here.
They're on the retreat.
But Niko's been for licorice in down.
Oji trying to poke liquid around the Rochard.
And indeed, when you see the result,
the outcome like that, you can certainly see why liquid.
They were very content to just sort of
absolutely go for this Roch because they know
at this point, Oji, they can't do anything about it.
No, they have no flip.
They can't really front line.
You get the promised primal once to be able to get an angle
to get this initiation.
You know, he did get the lost throw inside love.
He can't find this angle.
So Viper tries the front line and just dies.
There's no way that you'll pass out the pipe canvases.
This amount of damage that Liquid has.
Yeah, looking very concerning.
Aegis now for Mickins.
He's already having a completely free game.
And he's keeping the present stacks going.
And a lot of these team fights too.
I do have to mention that.
So they usually get like a kill and sequence
that right afterwards.
So I was very curious.
He's coming on.
And his tank is so tricky, and he's got back up coming.
Jakob will latch with the fight for Stride does start to bring him down low.
He'll get the pipe and the crimson off, and now the backup's turned up, they really want
to try and fish off the job, they'll get him so far.
But instead of cost them, your passion is like, maybe even more, now assuming does get
the jump, but now the dust is out.
Now that vision upon him will jump up to the high ground, there's straight to the T.P.
But Bob sees him to Stride and back down to the low ground, they kill up now, soon
he's stem, he'll be fortunate enough to T.P. away.
Yeah, even in these moves where they're getting something,
they're losing so much more niche
behind the tower with the amplified damage
and the dream coil takes out Nico.
Liquid get the chance to clean up the torment.
Liquid, they're just getting everything.
And OG, at this point, is kinda hard to see what they can find.
This game is slipping away from OG rapidly.
And they're trying to do their OG specialty
where they just kind of run at them
and try to pick them apart.
Liquid just, they're like, okay,
we know how strong they're.
We're just gonna match you.
We'll fight right back in every single one of the occasions.
Ace is, honestly, Ace is unbelievably far too, you know, we give a lot of credit to the McKay animation and the supports.
Ace is quitely far, it's got pipe crimson, and the bomb later. Like, I was watching him, but he's just, he was not really dying.
They had to commit absolutely everything else in him.
Give time.
Okay, up to four stacks.
And 30 Necromancer, he should collect the sword too, since he has died.
It's going up and up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is stacking up.
It's going to be interesting to see how OG tries to get themselves out of this position.
They have turned around some tough games before.
Another cool thing to point out, I don't really see most players do this on SF, so
I did want to highlight it.
He leveled.
Feast the souls by the way.
Top, Nico.
That's the two supports.
Yep.
Pretty much doing it just between them.
I'm not sure we'll head over to try and get in on the action, but they pretty much indeed had that kill.
We've just the supports, as you say. Pressure's coming in on the mid, make it, starting to tease around with the tier 3.
Feel two minutes and a half on this ages, and there's 22 minutes into the game, and the liquid that's right in the high ground.
Ace.
Marking himself.
I mean, what about he's not going to come out?
I mean, it really is, right?
And I guess this can be sometimes the struggle right when you go through a bit of a different
support to our life.
We're not saying other teams run kind of a whim range of bouncy.
It's some indifferent and especially when the game kind of comes at you this fast, you start to feel a little bit helpless.
This has got to be kind of the all-in play.
It feels like here, Nico is behind the supports now
on this primal.
Can they get the big wrap around?
Can they wipe everyone and isolate, make it somehow?
The game could come crashing to a pretty brutal air.
Very likely.
This doesn't go well for OG.
He's got in position to look out the fence of Nisha's being.
And this has been hit.
So liquid, you know, this is sort of coming in from the side.
to the north side on Isha orbs to scout, he sees them.
I mean, let's stop pushing the Hagar.
Tins is just dying and set the base so much to get back with the Invas.
Super low though, they'll have to use the fortification.
They can try and play some on their jump, so it's full, but don't just let me get the goal of off.
He gets the goal and down on support, but not simply defensive, but he can be trying to chase
Toes through with the stamp, beat the crimson, keep to follow the little longer, he'll finally fall.
So much coming up from that semi,
then that semi's still ends up dying.
Your coach caught in the dream coil.
They'll tap out of this one 24 minute victory here.
Full liquid in game one.
My goodness, OG, they weren't ready for them
in this first match for them.
This was quite the snowball, quite the stomping.
In Saint James fight, my lanes did very well.
The SF in particular, I'm Nisha also, right, Nisha?
Kind of won the mid lane versus the Viper as well,
too, the bounty rotations were not a thing.
Afterward's just massive snowball. Well, three legs looked really strong. This was a very impressive game from liquid of rog.
Shaking up pretty massively. A lot of heroes that they like to usually play wear band out.
They get go for this bit of a different support to it. Does not work out at all. They're slick with today.
I really doesn't really. Doesn't. I mean that they've got to sort of pay more attention, I guess to
It's trying to set up the drops and each doesn't get the chance to get this sort of hero away from all Paul Frontier.
Definitely a problem with how much he's doing.
and that this bottom line we've seen it before right when teams go against OG right they focus
Nico. They know if they can shut Nico down the game's going to start falling apart pretty early
for OG and it certainly did here. Liquid coming in with this game one stop.
Liquid are getting the ball rolling for themselves early on with a very clean victory and a very
quick victory at that as well. I feel like not a lot of us were expecting it to go this way knowing
just how aggressive OG have been in the past, but you're just shaking up the rust.
It's been a couple of days for them.
Yeah, I mean, they kind of just got decked in lanes and I'll play across the board.
I think this, this, to me, is a little worrying if I'm being honest because I think in some
ways they have a lot of the stuff that they want from a draft and they just got trounced in the
early game, which is generally OG specialty, that's a little scary.
Yeah, it's definitely true. I will say like, very big credit to Liquid for Swapping Up
that supports. It's not something that like, I looked at right away when the draft did,
they didn't cause a better huge difference.
Like Boxing playing bottom on his Marcy with Mickey,
it completely changed the entire game.
But I totally agree with Gwen.
I think OG didn't look as good in this early
to mid game as they usually do.
I think also the mid matchup.
I thought your push would do a little bit better.
He was like low HP, very frequently.
They're like very frequently.
But Liquid overall, I think good lanes.
They look good, solid, kind of just like,
they're doing like what they did yesterday.
They're just taking it and bringing it into today.
I mean, there's just no pressure on Liquid.
The way they're playing, you didn't feel like they were there.
Oh, OG's gonna run out, they're gonna do this,
they're just playing their lanes, they're in their job
and OG's, like, you need the primal to get the blink to play that.
You need more conditions to go your way.
And I think Liquid just exploited that.
They shut down the Viper, they stop primal from feeling
like he had any impact.
And then, you know, not so you can't carry
when everyone else is recovering.
Yeah, there was a little bit of playing through mid
on the side of OG that we could see as well,
like bringing the numbers, trying to get the advantage there.
They obviously saw, and what we can talk about, right?
As hard, niche of played yesterday, said they're like,
Okay, maybe we focused a little bit more on this puck,
but it wasn't always the numbers advantage
that went their way.
It more felt like, yeah, you're bringing in the numbers,
we kind of just, again, the meat grinder analogy
comes back, fails.
Yeah, there were definitely a couple of blunders
from the early game, I think, from OG,
where they just mess up some spells.
You can see this one here where they've got a free kill on puck
and Nico just doesn't press his old and tiny weights
a little too long, and he should get the waning or fall.
He keeps press it in stuff right there.
But he's trying to get too much damage,
and then puck lives.
Like things like this, this matters a lot.
And now suddenly, Puck would be bottomed
where it's primal's back a little bit.
We're here.
Viper's kind of just walking under the tower
against a puck that can never die.
Puck can not die in this game.
And then Viper just ends up feeding
and they feed one or two kills away here.
These mistakes that are just,
these are self-force errors.
It's not like what we even made a move.
You're just kind of ran into them
and held them two k gold from these two plays alone.
Like, that's, these are really big deals
and stuff that I'm like, oh, you got to lock in.
And you have to, like, cleaner than last game
because this, you're just handing them gold.
You have to know your limits for these types of errors.
Again, the mistakes that you make, there's no recovery with these super heroes.
You need to find kills, get nuts, find kills, get ages, find, you know, it's constant
forward thinking progression, as soon as you have one like Blunder, you are going to
be overwhelmed with the type of drugs that they could have.
But it wasn't just OG making these blenders that gave liquid aid, man.
They themselves were very forward thinking of what they wanted to do with their heroes and
also the space that they'd then had on the map.
Yeah, I like a lot of how liquid play, like maybe the post-linic stage, I mean, they're
The lanes were already very good, but I think OG also handed it to them a little bit, but
some of the mid game moves into small, liquid, and 4.
We're just honestly, it's quite high skill.
Like if you look at this, you're going to go to your safe lane, it's pushed, but you're
coming here with your pack wallet.
Like this move has very low chance of failing.
Because you're going to go on this one-pinal, if they come and tofu see some T-bees,
you're going to get fatal bonds, raw, and then like later, again, like they're going into
mid, they're like one step ahead.
OG come for the response, and we talk about it, think T-mench and you're, if you're
going to run into these rating heroes.
Like, just watch what's gonna happen.
It's fatal bonds goal them.
You're getting picked up.
Yeah, see you later.
Like, on this moment, I think the game ended, like, straight up.
But it's like they're teeping in and then,
they're just walking down the lane.
It wasn't as if they felt like this one came like,
we've got to go for the kill.
It was just kind of like, let's just walk down mid
and see what happens.
And then you get reminded about the heroes that I look we have.
I also didn't see, but was there any lane or river woods
that indicated the positioning?
Oh, liquid, because that's the other thing.
It's your old teeping in.
If you're not seeing anyone else,
you're kind of just blindly being like,
Well, I hope he's not behind them.
Let's say for the sake of victory there wasn't.
Because if there wasn't water there
and they're still making that move, that's why 10 times worse.
So there was a one.
There we go.
Definitely I didn't see one.
I actually think they didn't have one course.
When I looked at the minima, like towards the end,
I feel like Liquid had absolutely the upper hand.
They had like Lane Ward spot, a Lane Ward bottom.
They saw that kind of everything
and they're making all the moves.
And at the same time, you can also tell,
I think, OG, they're the type of team.
If they're like slightly behind,
they will all in on their one idea.
It's not common or even usual.
I will say that you have a mid-viper going travels
like into like pipe later.
But if it's just a philosophy of the team,
they're gonna play for one plan
and even if they're early game or something isn't good,
they will still fully try to execute it
with everything they have to like all in it and away.
Yeah, I mean, to me, part of the series
are a lot of the series I feel is that they need to wall,
still having that team identity,
they need to also understand
and to excel individually.
Because I think you mentioned like they sort of
run down the lane, like chasing and also in a coping way.
And I think that can happen in Best of Fives,
or when you're stressed, especially,
you can start making moves in a coping way
where someone's like, can we kill the sky
and then everyone tries to kill them?
You're not thinking about what you should be doing individually.
You're just like, this guy has said, kill the sky.
I'm assuming that applies to me.
And everyone shows there, and suddenly you're grouped up
really big.
The enemy is playing, they're playing it, like,
to their heroes, they're playing it to the situation.
And you get really stomped when there's that sort of mindset
difference, trust me.
I've been on both ends of that spectrum.
So I think it is really important for OG
that they understand that you'd notice a team game,
but also like just play your own game
because you're just one piece of that puzzle
for each of those players
and you need all the pieces to even have a puzzle.
Yeah, I do think the maybe something else
when it comes to completing this puzzle
that was a little bit lackluster
is what you pointed out to me behind the stage T
is the items, the lack of what they were going
for on the side of OG that wasn't really that occasion.
No, but of course after we saw your two tips,
guys about the pressure that liquid applied,
I feel like OG was kind of scrambling to buy whatever they could, right?
And we're going to see here for a sniper.
He has the pipe, so bootstriple pipe, a build that was really easy from midbipers.
He thinks he's at the thank you frontline standing in the ground, but he's playing into a right-click build
battlefield. He's not going for the tundra or Yandex style of Lashakaya, Shadafin.
He's going to stone for a normal right-click, and they also have just good containment took.
There's a little tape there's right-click, so it just felt like OG.
They lost the first 15 minutes of the game, panic,
but whatever they could, kept throwing their bodies into the engagements that you expect to see.
And like, we're gonna see that the breakdown here.
It's like, your mid lane has got like pipe goceptor.
Your offense only got a blink, but not really contributed to the game.
It's like, there's not really a game on any hero energy, other than maybe the kids,
but yeah, I think that's just a major disparity once again.
You look at all the liquor terrors, all the items you want for like a game winning moment.
Is this like Quingo's on his shivers, aren't?
No.
There's no way they're getting close to enough gold.
Not game to get sheathas.
This is one of those moments where someone on the team or the coach needs to step up in terms of motivation and vibe.
You just got trounced that feels really bad.
You can lose some confidence from that.
I need to go back to the Asian have a good talk about like, you know, guys, it's fine.
I think, but honestly, in this case, don't overblame the draft.
I think be real with your, the stuff that a little shaky guys.
We were playing a little poorly individually.
That's okay.
Don't worry about it.
It's an important series.
big and I think reducing the size of how everything feels and making like you were just
playing a game or trying our best it's a long year we're just trying to improve and making
it feel smaller and more manageable I think is really important.
I mean especially because it's a deal five right it is a lot easier by nature to say
guys it's game one this happened and I think secondary to that is you need to understand
like why you're picking your heroes I think they picked bounty so it goes against warlock
but liquid kind of one of them in the attic we're gonna put Marcy safely and so if you're
picking a hero for a reason you need to try as hard like to make it possible right
because liquid they just understood okay they want to do this we're going to not let them have it and they will just one simple
link swap and it changed like the entire game so if you're OG and you have purpose of heroes you've got to make
happen. I'm going to simplify it. No Viper in the mid lane get it gone boom down boom
I want your parts to be on like uff for it's queen of pains the end of the heroes are like a flashy
making things happen that little Viper go I think you go back to the opening of his mask I like the
the fact that they had a flex pick.
There's many options.
Very slow.
But coming.
No, there's only that one.
That's just one guys.
Yeah, I don't know.
They're not dead by the host.
That means they're dead.
I don't tell them they will back in.
They're right.
And then give static shots away on their monitors.
We've got a hashtag like Mars.
It's just the whole graph screen.
If we don't agree with her, she decides
the next six minutes what we're going to talk about.
Now, I've never thought about that.
Yeah, Mars.
Dissigry with me.
Dissigry with me.
No, I'm good.
I actually Mars sucks.
All right.
All right.
I don't want to hear them disagree.
We know that actually.
Oh, so we're first all about five minutes.
The word is a bit different.
No, no, no, thank you.
No, it's only me being.
One guy, production, oh my god, I get a break.
Oh, okay, no.
That's great.
Sorry.
What do we talk about then?
Oh, I actually got really thrown off for a second.
What are you the changes?
Yes, the things you'd like to see change for a game
to an invest five.
No, I mean, I think if you're talking draft,
I think personally the first place bands
are a little goobery.
I think this first place you care a band
whenever you have the first pick.
Just that's it.
You can just band the Shadowfeet or pick the Shadowfeet.
There it is.
you can pick the jacquero like that a lot of options, but I think handing them a hero
that is banned almost every game they both mica and niche are incredible on and it's broken
to me is like this is a bit silly. They got a little to pick for their bridges. I think
I agree with the Viper take. I think Viper is not really that particularly suited to this team.
It's not a yoplash hero. He likes mobility by nature. I agree with all these things. I think
re reconsider your first phase all to your bands a little bit. Go in with a fresh game because
I don't think you want to run back the game after that game one. How badly you go
back and back around, so it mixed it up a little.
I got hot take on the sun format, I feel like the starting
in some finals used to be OP in the sun, right?
You play a best of free get through grand finals, congratulations
your time to do win.
But now with the best of 5s, the more best of 5s you play,
you learn so much more than a best of 3.
And I feel like OG looked at that series yesterday and
over thought it was liquid in the intensity of playing it,
that crafting ideas, understanding like,
hey, what are you as an offender?
What do we need to do?
Are we playing through you with the Orders?
So we're doing other stuff.
So I think you learn way more at best of five.
And maybe that kind of sitting around waiting mentality
that used to be OP in the Sun format
is now maybe a detriment because, again,
I think OG just overprepared
and just went down a really weird path.
So I need them to describe game one logic.
Go back to the group stage.
Guys, we're over cooking.
If I learn one thing in OG, it's a power off friendship.
That is no, it's stop laughing.
What did you see that?
Oh, no!
Yesterday, we don't see our panel as good
because of the power of friendship.
That is true.
We know G. We play magic every night.
And we ain't friends, I think that's all.
I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see.
You feel like one game one yesterday, they won the series.
It's a Stratth lose game one, learn when the series.
Is that what you told?
OG, when you're on that, hey guys, we should lose game one.
Well, you said the, oh, you're saying the person won game one loses the best of five.
So really, OG had the best takeaway and said, hey, we don't need to win game one.
That's so many more chances for us.
and then not wrong with the best of five format.
Of course, it is one game going to liquid,
but OG, they've had the time to reset.
They're gonna have a little bit longer
because we're gonna go to a break
when we come back, a draft of game two will be on your screens.
Very hot information, official valve facets that they've proposed
These are 100% genuine facets don't keep, and these won't get put in the game if you don't approve them.
I just wanted you to opinion on them.
We didn't make these up at all, I promise.
This is the first one. Supply chain is for Beastmaster.
Control units can carry and use items
and the items are not lost on death. What do you think?
I think this one is so OP.
Even it's just a unit that boots, you'll already be busted,
but if they have other items, they'll be like, yeah.
It's like laundry with our spirits.
It's so broken, I think.
It cannot be.
Could have a day corner.
Yeah, it's too complicated to figure out, like, it's actually really good.
I think it's used to much brain.
Too much brain.
OK.
Well, it was pretty fun when you had cooures with things or stuff.
But this is clearly broken and unbalanced
wherever it came up with this trip.
Stop giving great memories.
OK.
Shadowfeme gains no gold from killing creeps,
but you get 500% gold from killing heroes.
This is so weird.
How do you kill a hero?
You don't just go kill them.
Put it up for once.
But if you get first blood, oh my god,
I'm just kidding.
I want to like him.
What's going to happen in early game?
How you get items?
If this also works for us is cold, maybe.
Okay, but if it's only for last sets,
it's only for K-UP.
I think like the number would be hard.
Because if I don't get the first K-UP,
I'm just out of the game.
You just do nothing for the whole game.
I don't know.
Good work and support it.
I don't know.
You just get on the ground trying to chase heroes
and trying to keep like, you need to be like
in same player who do this.
Yeah.
But this could be fun for support.
Lifesteelo.
Infesting an allied hero causes lifestyler to steal 8% of their current gold per minute.
Oh no, this sounds like a bad thing.
Same property.
You can't do anything else.
You just, in fact, so this is like, if you have someone that's...
You can't pass it on to the...
Oh, I can't pass it on to the...
Exactly.
You like it?
No, this is like...
Emphasizes people going to get his kid. There's nowhere to go.
There's just no benefit for the other guy.
Let's say you stole 8% of the game 12%.
Now they could be like, okay, 40 greater, we're good.
Right.
It's working like your peak like lifestyler with your rush wagons, your inter-appurgent,
and then like your two other creeps.
No, this is not good.
You're fighting your own thing, it's timber soil.
Every tree destroyed,
the only increases is on but by no 0.15.
That's the broken. You're just back climbing there.
I mean it's good but I don't think this is going to be balanced in the game.
But then I will go like 10 or more per minute.
Perfect.
And that's his...
You think that's too strong?
You're just trying to reach it here.
It's a broken.
Broken.
Broken.
Thank you.
We've got one kill.
So let me see if I can change your mind.
Every tree that he destroys, he gets strapped onto the model.
So the hero model ends up covered in logs.
Like a lumberjack.
I like it.
Do you like that?
I think that's right.
Next up, absolutely unit.
Tiny's model size increases by 5% per kill.
There's a attack range and his collision size, scale with it.
You can't go into the version two-factor.
What if you're playing in it?
You can play in game, but they're going to play now.
Oh, I see. So you're just stuck at your start there until you can get it.
This is also gonna be interesting, correct?
But right now, it's a battle.
You're like, you're a sinker, but...
It's better for a legion, right? Because the attack range...
I mean, depends on how much the courage you can get.
If I can get their drone from mid lane, then it's worth.
I could see this being in the gym, honestly.
He really gets bigger, any?
Yeah.
All right, well, Tim, thank you for looking over these facets.
I will pass on your opinions to Val.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you for having me.
Good, good knitting.
Good night, Tim.
Good shit.
That's the fact continuing with liquid in OG after a fun little content piece that Psyrian
got to do with all the plays, which one do you think was the most broken that he put forth?
Yeah, for me, probably Timbersel.
It's a good one.
It's a good one.
It's a good one.
It's a good one.
It's a good one.
It's a good one.
It's a good one.
It's a good one.
cut all the trees in your base, you want to make one armor.
You just like aggro, creep wave and never die.
That's what the numbers were, not okay.
No, no, no, no, but I did, though.
I could definitely see it.
And hopefully OG have come up with some new ideas.
Maybe not that unbalanced for themselves
but in the draft is game one going the way of liquid.
It's going to need a new reset for themselves inside of OG.
Now having banned out Trent, protect a SF, raise up.
One will ban for themselves and liquid taking out
both the moths and the docks here that we talked about in the the preamble of the series.
This is fascinating to me because they are hardcore calling their bluff and saying we actually think
you can't win without these heroes. Show us that you can and OG, you've got to hit a chip on your
shoulder when this happens because they are clearly the targeting you, right? This is this is saying
we think you're limited and OG needs to prove that they aren't. Of course, no OG. They don't
I love when a team has these type of bands, no matter what's the tournament, no matter what
this is just as a team, we respect you for this, now sure, and of course they do take
the jacquero, I get it probably should have just been the draft pattern for OG in the last
game, but I also like that Liquid take it over the Viper, and I think like even double
downing on the Bluff that Quinn is talking about, I don't think OG would be like they can
be that happy to reach for a Viper pick here on 9, so if you're Liquid you just start with
If you know the tofu jukiro he showed at yesterday, he destroyed multiple games.
It's like, I would say the plus five of the entire tournament was OG.
You know they obviously had some time between the games to talk about it.
I think Chen, I'm not a very stand out plus five euro that has looked very, very strong.
This is a much better response.
I agree.
I think the Viper pick up there would have been a disaster.
So picking Chen, it's very solid.
You've traded five for five.
They're both break in broken laners.
They offer slightly different things in terms of what they offer to a team.
but they are both very, very strong.
I do think one sort of thing to chance downfall
is that Voxy only plays melee for us right now.
And melee for us are much, much better against Chandon Range one.
So I think in some ways it plays a little bit,
but I think it is fine.
But is that where O2 with their single abandon?
Are they going to look to try and ban the melee for us now?
Because you have one.
Are you ban tough, they go clock, you ban clock,
they go tough, right?
So it is matter of like, we'll have absolute freedom
for kind of the strongest hero of Boxing in the playoffs.
I mean, you could look later like if the matchup is like so damn weird.
I mean, you can either cover it with Natsumi's carry,
or you could also consider putting the Chen, you know, as before,
or like go for like some lane-subs later,
which is what Liquid showed us in game one.
Obviously, if it makes sense.
Because yeah, I think Boxi, people get his pick off the leader
off his boss four years, like you said.
This clanks ban is really interesting to me.
I don't think it's like it's fine with Chen,
but it doesn't strike me as...
particularly incredible. So I wonder if this is a band that's protecting something they want down the line
What the rationale is because it doesn't it's not totally intuitive to me
We'll see again with later picks book if we ignoring that. I feel like it's also just statement heroes that OG have utilized that different points
Right just you look at the darks in Mars band. They're respecting the G you look at net sumi t a that was
We're starting the first thing last time
Tictus boss like they're just here is that OG can lean on with a you know full protect one starter draft
They're going back for the primal, but no, it's like, oh, they've found a book, I guess you.
It's not laying in shadow themes, not lanyan's clock, and I think it's still a flex for them,
like you'll plush plays a serious wall, they're both very, very competent on it, so I think,
like to shy away from it would be a little bit too much respect their fear, so I, in some
ways I like that they pick it again, even though I think it's not that great against
your cure on the early game, because of all the slow-solo, so mega-verduces trampoline damage,
but still I can see why they pick it and I think the magic damage
sort of the high damage perished pairs well with Chen.
They also did something last game that I wasn't the biggest fan of.
Like OG, they started the safe lane with like a trial lane.
Like I understand, you know, your primal,
you went for like the creep skip,
but then you bound to you went bottom later.
He was level one, but it's like,
I think it was like a creep.
That was like a huge problem.
So, they get their task.
I think again, you could consider having task in the safe lane
with another melee carry,
or you can have, you can pick an off-laner.
There's a lot of officers that can sell
to stay in against Chen fairly early on.
So if you can leave this lane as task, like minute three,
and you can look into the safe lane
to just try and release and suddenly there's task
to cure a plus one.
They're often, like, very easily struggle.
And I'll log it off lane.
The volatile here that we see it for,
but I think liquid is becoming one of the teams
that can utilize it correctly,
because of how well that supports play the early game.
Like, log it off the relating phase, your farming camp.
So getting like Manipoos, Agonyms,
and then you're chasing another item,
but I feel like the way Liquid's playing,
I think my hesitation to be excited for the hero is,
I'll go.
I'm like, okay, this is a team that can do it.
So for OG, it's like they've got to try and shout down
Lager and then they've got to try and make sure
the tusk is hugging Lager the entire time
so he can't go to mid lane.
So that is where that suit me needs to find a carry
that can just keep bullying
and maybe while the T8 and Clink's ban
now makes sense because of course Lager does need.
In OG, but if we're the first ones
at Dream League to show us Gen Plus Wind Ranger,
like the lane together with this is a hell there.
They'll go for something different.
I do still like that as a range carry.
I think against Largo, you want high damage,
but picking Sven here, there's too many good carnipics
for liquid on 18, so I do like the weaver.
But the weed will hear that was played into Liquid, right?
The adequate for me, order.
And it felt like the damage fell apart later on
as the game progressed.
Is this where you need to go for the desolate?
If it is earlier, it's possible to get the charges.
Sure, Largo can gain armor with ultimate,
but you need to be explosive with your damage.
Like desolate, deadless.
Like to come a threat on the map,
rather than kind of like tickling the enemy.
That is definitely important.
I'm actually unsure about how I feel about this match
because I can see the damage fall off.
But at the same time, weaver should be good against Largo
because you're very high tempo and Largo is quite slow here.
So I think it should be too side at the pen and how the lane goes.
If OG is able to actually open the lane,
you do stuff like you steal the wisdom or it,
and you start to really ransack the side of the map.
I can see the credence there,
but also if you don't have that tempo,
Suddenly you have saved your 50 euros another penny here on top of that. You got it's drumming going on to the background
I think it can be it can become a little problematic
They had this yesterday like the largo DK it looked super strong
I mean that very similar heroes like they may have even had the same four heroes
Yeah, yeah, the last pick again for liquid was gonna be the voice
But these are same four heroes that liquid had against falcons into a weaver
Of course the weaver had three different heroes accompanying him, but
Yeah, the the takeway or that game was just the weave a time of
profit for them. Yeah, now you have another you have another blinks done. You
lane super easy into primal beast. You also have a jaciro that's with you. You
have incredible damage like into like the mid to later stages off the game
with your blink arm that mask of madness stateless like you you chunk these
heroes down. I am worried for OG. This this liquid safe line is like we'll stop
primal part of my think. Like jaciro will just hit them constantly. He cares
as an amazing one-to-one matchup against Final Beast.
And so if you don't win your safe lane really hard on OG, or have some really good flow
from mid, because they will have absolute last picks and maybe there's a counterpicked
there that can give them some momentum, because this offline is not going to be in place
where you can make play, so you need options in the other lanes, or I think look at what
will have any of the time to get to that tankiness in the mid game, which I think becomes
a real problem.
I just want the mid-lay for OG to be here that can buy a vessel, into a sheavers, keep
applying the pressure, you get the vessel for the early fight, of course you're fighting
away from the logo, because you'll just dispel it with the lick, but that's kind of the
archetype of here that I'm seeing to bring life to a chamber of creeps pushing someone forward
prone with the blink. It's very skirmish, but that's what we praise OG Force, I'm not going to
really be too critical of that, but it then matches what you need the execution, which again they
just didn't have in game one, but of course they can easily fix that going into game two.
I mean, I also need to think about the liquids pick as dare to once picking out of the face.
I could see a storm spirit.
I mean, do we feel like what exactly do they need?
I think most of the heroes in the Eastshire plays play kind of well into this game.
Like OG, they don't have the most catch.
It's also nice. I would say if your mid hero can like eye the sidelines,
because they are like, like weaver is very susceptible as is primal.
Yes, storm needed to be bad there. All those storm counters are already bad.
It's interesting because a lot of us that three heroes are bad.
I think that's a sort of what Liquid wants.
This is skirmishing random fighter, but you see the last four bands.
OG and Liquid both identify math in the other team.
That's what happens sometimes when you get the mid-verse mid-last phase stand-off,
as you end up with a lot of chance.
Of course, you're okay.
It's always the same draft.
Yeah, it's the same draft.
Yep.
I mean, for Liquid, there was a couple options in play,
but no, they just want to go back to the void spirit.
It is the vessel by and here that can't go for shevers.
I mean, yeah, Liquid, identical draft.
I say, how'd you yesterday?
So, what was the game then for that game?
I mean, it'd go a little bit.
That was a way of 30.
Huskers not bad.
Yo, just pick Husker.
Like, does your push play it?
I hope he plays it because it's pretty sure he plays it.
I mean, if he does play it, then this is very much calling his bluff.
Because this matchup is horrendous.
Yeah.
Like, it is genuinely, and it's a trotace.
And it's super good against four of the heroes and Huskers find,
especially when you have 10 armor.
I think the Husker is very good.
I mean, I'm not surprised at all if they pick it.
I will say at least if I'm liquid, maybe they had it in mind.
because both your supports can kind of help you mid.
Update, your approach has never paid our stars.
It is the best answer.
Wow.
The best touch of change, because I think this in real far
is so much worse than Oscar here.
You say shame.
I say respect to you, your approach.
Not needing to lean on a cheap pair
like Oscar to be one of the best mid-liners in the world.
You don't need to cheat your weight in those trophies.
Do it the honest way.
Fair play, respect for another player in the hero.
Let's see if he makes it with the Timbers on.
Yeah, we'll see how it feels when he runs the Dun Zero, too.
I mean, like Timbersaw in theory is good against DK and Largo,
but I think mid Timbersaw is honestly quite bad.
If Malreen is not playing it,
then I have my serious doubts about it,
and he's not.
Boitzery does totally fine in this line.
It's quite draw-out, I think.
And they also don't have really any heroes
to help and set up this trockham.
So it's one of those games where I then give him
a precious to be full-locked in full chat mode
because he is an island.
He doesn't have any supports that help him.
And it's also the problem in the Viper game
where he was over playing
hand on the mid lane, you cannot do this time around.
Like there's a task, energy carry.
Either hero will TP and kill you off of a void spirit,
even though you are meant to be this timble being an orange,
like you need to just, again, know your limits.
I feel like for OG,
now as soon as I have to mention, will be so critical to their success.
Like if he goes for me on it, I'm worried they won't have damage.
I kind of feel like this needs to be a desert game,
but, yeah, OG, it's,
I mean, at least they know exactly what Link was gonna do.
Like as they watch the replay yesterday.
I mean, for OG, I think they're slightly preferred
at Liquid Rath, I think for OG as well,
you need to think of how you make those moves happen.
Like, can your push find ways to play into the safe lane,
maybe to like feed some kills off of the frog,
maybe you buy some ataus, play on some active runes,
because like you guys mentioned,
they don't have that much setup.
Like, it's a Chen support with a Marana.
Like, there's a lot of skill-shotting going on,
so I think it's a very high skill game
and like very high on execution,
where I think Liquid, I mean, they showed it to us yesterday.
They played it, looked phenomenal.
This is a very solid draft for them.
OG's the type of draft like win three lanes
when the game type of could type of concept.
Yeah, I am real worried for OG.
I would, I would vastly prefer a liquid draft there,
so I need to see some magic from your push.
Look, liquid one on this exact draft yesterday
in a game five against Falcons.
They bring it out a little bit earlier now
in this best of five.
We've seen it find success.
Our OG able to break that apart
and get a win for themselves as we're getting into our game
Number two of our best of five.
Here we go, ladies and gentlemen,
time to get to the action of game two.
Ready to play out between OG and Liquid and Falker.
I feel like we've kind of been there before and I
liquid coming up.
Yeah, but pretty pretty simple.
I get to go after what we have the other day from the worktop pretty well.
The question is, you know, did OG do that homework?
Watch those replays, turn up today and say, okay, you want to do that?
We've got to plan against this.
Do you think this is going to work out for OG?
Have they solved what Falcons could have yesterday against this line of the liquid?
I don't really like the last pick that they went from really with Quinn.
I tend to solve it.
I was thinking the exact thing, if Maloney is not playing this here on mid, there's
a worry, right?
So, let's see what your post can do with it.
I definitely have my concerns for them because liquid yesterday they got to just kind of hit
creeps when they played this line up.
They hit their two timings, Ags Largo, plus one or two items on the voice purpose, you
get the game is over.
Look, there's literally no chance you could tell.
So let's see if this approach comes in better, because I do see some limited damage,
especially if this timber saw struggles at all.
I see some limited damage on the side of OG.
So let's see what we do get as you can all follow.
Of course, on polymarket, with our official prediction market of BlastLime, let's see what
we get for this game.
Yeah, the smoke came out and from both sides.
So, I'm going to be able to get the catch on one another.
See if they want to try and contest for this ruin.
They do have the numbers here.
Look at the three versus the two.
Yeah, would you like try and contest for that one?
Because they're happy getting the outfit.
The mouse way, huh?
That managed to get the advantage of the three bouncy rooms.
The start was one off OG.
I think that's because Telfoo is playing differently this time.
Since the time will be he's cut the wave.
You know, he's playing back in that position.
Just in case of things to stop that wave.
but that's not going to be the case this time and looking at these lane setups
kind of interesting they're putting scam with the primal
and they're putting them around a bottom
so i guess one of these double range to be able to really harass
i mean they have to we saw happen when ace kind of gets to chill
farm and up a lot ago he does get into sort of an unkillable territory pretty quick
on this area so i feel like you surely the answer to that you've got to fully
I guess it's just a little bit more harassment and the chin can provide better protection
versus the EGKROW. That's probably what I'm looking at here because overall like Marana
versus the versus the GKROW, you can't trade that effectively. Chin with the creep, you can
actually trade so. Okay, cool little clever little movements like we're just doing absolute
standard though. Standard looks really good for liquid this game because their heroes look
I believe we're strong.
Well, that would, you know, all eyes really are going to be on what your passion is going
to be able to offer on the timber saw.
I'm not going to imagine.
Now, one of the things that the timber can kind of offer, especially when you consider
how liquid's been playing and what happened in the last game, right?
It is that mid-hero that can at least turn up to some of these tier 1 defenses and, you
know, be quite annoying to push around, right?
You can turn up and just sort of be there to deep push and just sort of be that tanky hero
early on that can make those tier 1 tiles or liquid one I look for very early I
little heart of them to fight. I would say that they have some good burst though on
liquid. Especially with the void right it's not just it's not physical burst it's a
lot of magical damage and tusking sometimes just make even tanky heroes look
quite a bit squishier but let's see I honestly though the timber saw is the biggest
question for me in this game.
So far in the lane.
That's pretty close.
It's got the wave coming in to him.
So with those creeps taken, he's been a pretty leveled with that.
That niche is finding in the mid.
Definitely good for the scents.
You know what this void spritz is going to be able to do down the line right?
We saw it yesterday and the lineup from niche.
He absolutely popped off on the void spritz.
And you know, whilst the lane might go pretty evenly,
he's going to get farmed out of this.
He's unlikely to pressure Nisha too much, right, Nisha?
He's going to get a clean start out of the lane again.
Nisha should honestly, for me, at least,
it's just kind of like win the lane
in terms of just the animation,
just the right-click animation, so nice, on to its spirit.
And he's comfortable on it too.
We do have to say that, right, Nisha,
super comfortable with the Chloe Saw yesterday.
Autumn, Bugs.
Well, connect.
Play, we've reversed his task.
I wanted to mention this one too.
It can be a bit annoying in terms of the game.
Right now, all good attempt with the shots for Tim's.
I'm going to jump over finish off the job
and get that first blood secured for OG.
Midgame is annoying because the snowball immediately
removes the bugs, but inside the landing phase
you can still, you know, with the double harassment of the range,
we are seeing why they did want to have this first
the double melee, but is this still getting a lot?
19 and 10.
Yes.
Nice having a pretty easy time to hit the creeps down here.
Yep.
Keep flicking it.
The range creeps gets them every time.
He actually was able to get that first healing loader and yeah, it looks like for skim he just has a healing creep now that he's been able to find and he's just keeping Niko
sustained
Not able to really pressure Mika whatsoever up here with the champ problem. It's going to be free farm on Mika
I mean all three lanes do look quite good for them. I would say at least in terms of just being able to farm and not really die
No, very very sort of hard to
One opportunity to get those kills and maybe a sort of a support opportunities we saw down there earlier Tim's getting to chase down
boxy. How side of that difficult to find early action?
See, which only if boxy makes a bit of a slip-up right from all the harassment, which
you did do before, Tim's, well, take that water in.
Let's think they're trying to bring the two supports to assist Yorkwise to at least get
him with what the power runs, but Nesho's actually able to get the water running
top and Yorkwise doesn't get the bottom one, so he doesn't get a refill on the
timber, even with the double-report rotations of the supports.
I mean, that's pretty much that as much as they can do right, they can't really go on towards this board spirit.
No chance of killing me, shoot them up in the lane and then she just, yeah, training damage very favorably against Joe Paz.
Keeping your page low, top lane, up, meco, he's gonna be able to get back.
To get Maken so pretty, pretty low. Just down to the one charge is on mid-K.
see some concerns from the midline and my I wanted to wait for a little bit to say this too,
but I'll say it now because it's going to probably get accelerated. It's such a good vessel
game for the void spirit too and that's the other thing is why I'm like this timber was picked.
When you probably expected this void spirit too, so I'm getting this vessel is going to be
incredible versus the timber versus the chan. It's a very good game for it. Thought it.
Look at the chance to close it on the ton. Nico straight in.
I'm gonna take him out, not able to pressure him,
but of course, my case, still able to get pretty easy free
farm up on this top side of the map.
I mean, obviously, this is the one thing right, Frogy.
If Nico can have a slightly better opening to the game,
now he can make a lot of happen.
Now, last game wasn't able to do too much,
but we know that if Nico doesn't get shot down early,
he can start to be that real driving force emoji
or see over around the mid.
Yo, buddy.
It's gonna get caught in the shot, sir.
The guy in the out of this one,
stable setting over, closes the gap on some walls
and they come up with the first of the dissimilar.
That's your pass contimes.
Trying to find boxy air with his last jump forward,
but boxy will fall.
But Tim's ends up going down.
Scaven.
Might just be able to take both through out.
So in return, Nisha, you're just going to be able to feed up
with nothing.
So you could see, Ogin trying to fight back against liquid.
But when the outcome is Nisha surviving throughout it all,
getting a double kill,
It don't feel too good if you're OG there.
Definitely not.
Minisha brings supreme gets level six and change almost level seven.
Your pizzer's only five and a half.
So pretty crazy that he's been able to find that when he sends him to base earlier.
Big stuff really.
Yeah, he's level seven.
Your pizzer's about to hit that six.
That is a big deal.
He's testing for the shrine to delete your strong.
That's top to do, no more.
I'm going to double the half of the shrine.
I've got one lead to play with the time.
That doesn't mean that now as soon as actually I'm again and still that shrine.
So...
I'll start snobbing up quite working in that favor there.
I just ended up giving that sum of the freedom to get the steal on that one of course
and the other side of the map, scammers, so she cheers their own.
So both seven of them have to go to OG.
And Baxi will, I mean, I know why he did it right.
He does the snow block, because you have the bugs on you, right?
So you wanted to spell them and then you're like, wait, obviously.
That's seven of them, so come and up, yeah.
It happens.
Seeing Thames with that movement as well, he is blocking camp.
So I think a lot of teams and a lot of people have recognized the way these
Lardos play, they just backed up to those two camps, and then they just
farm them with the Frog Stumps.
We saw 33 do it earlier in this tournament.
We've seen Ace and a couple of other players as well.
So I'm looking to slow down that farm.
But it's three quarters with absolutely pretty much the same net worth on
the side of Liquid.
Some of the same in the power room.
I'm going to sit around the top one.
Top is looking pretty dead.
That's Jimmy Greft, the redeemeroon.
Let's hit the guy out.
To Moroji, they get the set up once awards boxy.
They're going to look for the dive in to finish off the job.
They'll get him.
Now, they look towards Nisha, Nico.
Closing the gap with the onslawn, Nisha's got a couple of astral steps left to play with.
We used both of them to get underneath the tier two.
He should be fine.
And a nice little move there from Oji bringing in the numbers, ensuring that Nisha doesn't
get the chance to be power-oing and the Oji find this opportunity to get a couple of kills.
Take out the supports.
That's the OG that we usually see, is even if the lanes don't go in their favor,
usually you see like a 4 man 5 man kind of collapsed around that 8 to 10 minute mark.
It's not that they do make the move, and yep, you set two supports killed not going to find
needs to, but put some pressure and show that they can make moves.
You can bring me the leader in for bottom.
Chan, and a scap should be in a lot of trouble, Mcamburg.
I get the wrap round set, so put the dragon's out.
He was deep.
Wait for you.
So yeah, the question for me is really going to be how much can OG look to slow down the
farm of liquid because I guess what I saw yesterday pretty much was liquid just they got
to these timings when they got to the DK armlet when they had mask advantage also and
they brought around Lardo Agues the game felt over. So I want to see OG really push the envelope
in terms of trying to shut these heroes down not to let them get those timings so they felt
That's so strong in there, don't you?
That's a good one here though, at least from OG does
get the information for Niko that he's shooting.
It was connecting.
Instantly taking away though.
Yeah, I'm going to take them one out.
That's the most command it's done for Niko.
So this is cool.
Niko stepped pretty far up and he made a bit of a base.
Now, zoom in.
We'll get the bugs out onto Niko.
Last part, we're holding back.
Now the turner attention was tofu instead.
I can't really get the bug off in, but try to food.
Should be going down, Nico grabs him with the pulverized.
Again, very much showing the confines,
options used to cure up the supports.
See again around the power in, it's going to be down bottom.
He's getting burst low by the two of them.
Nice attempts there with the disassembling after a step.
It's sort of bait out and spells for my V.
Avoid the connection.
Oh, actually, I'm walking back here.
Yeah, I heard that.
It should be OK though.
Get the chance to pick up the illusion run.
Foxy was ready as well with a snarrow bowl.
It's necessary.
I got to be honest, I'm like seeing OG playing with not too many playing on the
waiver way more than I'm seeing on the calves because even though like the lanes
that ain't got perfect, I'm just seeing him kind of open up the map for his team,
making the rotation.
He moves mid, helps to set up for any pressure, moves top, helps to set up for a kill
and then afterwards the tower to set up Nico now to have this 3-0 start.
So I'm liking this quite a bit better than the last draft for Moji in terms of being
able to react for these aggressive plays.
is he does have two components already though so the you know that that liquid timing
it is going to hit pretty quickly so we're going to see how would you you can
test the you have a group up around Larga where he's camping up the moisture
preventing slows and just keep in them sustained constantly years going to
get away with getting that pretty quick timing because we saw yes there
are that team fight sort of sustain and potential just seem to be impossible
to break. Yes, OG. They've got to keep this pressure on. Keep running and
liquid right now. And look at it. We go towards boxy. And now we have to get him
here with the five of them turning up. Yeah, 11 minutes in. OG ready to make
moves with the four five. And as you say, they're not soon. You just continuing to
be present in these plays. And this is the sort of level of activity we need to
see from OG to be able to constantly take liquid off there early again.
Yeah, I've really liked it rotating.
I mean, we're seeing already, right?
You know, it's already the signs of this frog.
It's going to be a problem.
Yeah, it's not easy to kill.
When he gets that accident, as you say, with the fact that he's pretty much up at
top now worth level with Micka, he's going to be such a fast timing.
That's when the game's going to start to get tricky for OG.
Right now, they're doing a great job, but they've got to keep this up.
They can't slow down, because that team fight when it comes together from liquid,
It's going to be so hard to break through.
The sustain coming out from the logo,
the mobility from Nisha, and just with the front line presence
and damage, the McKay is going to be offering.
We saw it come together beautifully yesterday from liquid.
There's a high chance in my come together
in the same way this game and the SOG can really keep up
this high level of activity.
And just not allow liquid to get to that point,
or at least when liquid do get to that point,
have enough damage output from their key heroes,
such as Natsumi on the Weaver.
very close to the malstrom, it's nearly got it done, just about, you know, gloves of
he used away from it.
I think Yopas has to just pretty much have his like target priority in these team fights,
just all about Largo, right?
Just kill him to lead him with that big burst damage from the warlip, because he is high
strength.
So can look to pop him in a way if you can get on top of him and get the connection.
So that might be the approach they look for, because otherwise the frog does nothing.
It's always frog, literally.
Yep.
Move it, move it to the blue bottom.
Here we go.
Straight for him.
Kill that frog, straight it on the waist.
Get him out of the lane, get him out of the game.
I want you, they know the plan.
Great.
No, actually what they've got to do.
Go for these players, get these tier ones.
Much better.
Early game for Moji here in this game tries to pose to what we're showing game one.
And it will, we're seeing what we need to see from them.
They're not slowing down.
down OG that constantly thinking about the next move they need to make and they're making
it happen.
Yeah, these last six minutes have been really nice for them just contesting and outnumbering.
Constantly just bringing it, not assuming bringing Nico looking for those foot moves and
Nico now does have the blank.
So, as you saw there, can get any type of setup because liquid, they want it just far.
They want it against it those item timing.
So, as we said, OG, if they can slow these timings down can be pretty big.
Now they have the gold lead themselves.
Let's see what their next move is going to be.
Yeah, this is, let's admit it to me is just impressive positioning for now.
Just denying farm away playing in this area.
I hate those pretty safe.
It feels pretty safe right now, at least before there's any sort of like blink
dagger online on the task of the DK.
You can get away with this aggressive positioning.
Sit around the med, diving the tent to might be a little too much right now for
OG.
So they'll hold back on any attempt there.
But without that, you know, you look at Nico's just looking at Nico's
The fact that Niko 3002 is having a good start for the game.
We've seen many times where that Nomi tends to end up leading the game towards if you're
OG.
Niko, if you haven't shot him down at the beginning, he can just run away with the game.
He can. He is super important for this team.
I think all the games that we saw, the game's a Niko struggle.
OG struggle with the games.
Niko, hold on.
So far, so good for him.
Blank on him, of course, so we do see the A-toss now for the timbers, so looking for a secondary catch.
Okay, the timing for Liquid is just that it is gonna hit pretty much in the next with 300 gold.
Ace is gonna have the axe. They're gonna have the DK with Blank armlet mask of madness.
So, I see the OG is ready for that team fight that's very likely to kick together.
I also, I should have said this yesterday too. I was just, there's a lot of, you know, mechanic little things, but never,
forget about the, like, the groove and armor. That was one thing I kind of, like, just slipped up even though I play so much
is how much he was buffing himself up versus something like weaver bugs or just physical damage.
I could definitely mean that, you mentioned yesterday, right? Even though you're not necessarily
easily able to focus taking the bugs out because you want to keep playing your song
exactly. Kind of counteracts the amount that that's trying to bring you around the down. So
yeah, there's an always feel the worst when you have a bug on you. As long as you're playing that guitar
That's if he can keep himself distance from your pass because your pass will kill him quickly if he can get a couple more than devs on him.
Okay.
We'll get this done.
Look at the arrow.
On the arm, pretty tough to take down and Link was going to let's try and strike back him.
Link was going to jump over the walls, chimps.
They get the grab on towards him.
He'll come out from the chan.
Keep it to him to live and Link is up to top of the pulverise on a boxy.
Boxy, he's going to get taken out for sure.
It'll time with a punch, but Link takes him out with one final strike and then he'll show up
The more he hates it, the closer the new shield, the more for the decimination place.
Looks like he's crashing in from Nico.
They take out the two of them.
They could...
Now, I was trying to stay safe under the two-tout by Halsephys.
I mean, you can see the angle from Nico and that two of them, they're going to try and get back in on this one.
Nico, that's the dragon-tuster.
Onto Nico.
They've got the damage to bring in back into the number of onswafs.
Nico's ticking down low.
We'll still end up falling there to the damage over the whole.
They're here, only.
So now, OG they've got a kind of calm it down a little bit.
and they can't get in the front row, I retire three at 10.
Now the T2 push, so that dive coming around
the back of it a little too far for us to go for liquid.
I'm going to make OG pay a little bit at the end of that one,
taking out low to me, go on the skamp.
It was an honestly, for OG, it was kind of ideal way that timing started
because the logo wasn't there.
Ace was brought in, Ace is the guy's way for me,
the song is coming, so they get a pretty much perfect start to the
fight getting a four-man whirling death, a three-man whirling death,
but does the overchase, the frog does arrive and then they overchase, they don't really respect the songs.
I'm seeing no.
Mick Edge is still going to be a tough target to take down even if they do get that opening stun,
that big arrow connection on to him.
It's not going to be easy to kill him. And as you said, that was a situation where they
kind of catch up with the arrow stun in a teamfight where the log is not even there at the start
nothing about. So in a midst of a teamfight where Largo Aces around straight from the start
of it, it's the 5v5's that OG's really going to struggle with when I'm really trying
to look for those and liquids fully set up.
Yeah, I think if they're fully set up, it's going to look quite different. Your parts
has a shield bullet, but the canters get leaked off, so canters can't quite too aggressively
with this.
That's the start. He tries to come over the counterplay, but that ice pipe and toe through
lined up perfectly in time and some catching he goes, he jumped in and out of the
the
memory to go for more snowfall in the
off the tower to take out scams.
Oh, she can get anything in return.
I've been a big team.
I'm not so strong in the
point.
Oh, push.
Who tried to retain how to
just for liquid can change him down.
This is always the time for
G-Row when the four five
man comes running at you from
liquid.
They've done it before that.
Any yesterday with this line up
and here again today, it's going to
look as strong as ever when the four
five are grouped up and ready to go from
like we're side. Also, especially if you're, we should have talked about this too, but a bit
of lack of stun, we have to mention on the side of OG2. Largo, he's playing versus
lack of stuns and just slows. He's just everyone's running full movement speed. They're
kind of just getting on top of you and ditching this crazy damage. Reverberate on top of
the void spirit. There, we saw the 5v5 of Luke, we're just can barrel through it with.
Yeah, there was a little bit of milk of stealth from OG2. We'd like to get him with the
grab, but as they say, tow through it, actually inadvertently catching Nico and it was going
of the ice pipe elsewhere, but actually ended up doubling up with any
crumbling into it and stopping that chance from OG to maybe, it gets a
quick support kill at the start of the team by take away something from
this five-maner liquid, they couldn't get it at the beginning of the fight and
indeed is the 5v5 plays on in these sort of awful on team fights. Not going to
be easy, they've got a lot of these big corners, you're going to get back in
action up top. But again, make it such a tough target,
It's concerning, folks, the team fights are going to get harder and harder for OG.
They really did everything they could in the early game to try and get as much as they could before
they started to happen, but I don't know if they got enough.
It's not a massive lead on the numbers, but it's definitely a lead that we could start
to see spiraling out of control and let OG somehow can find a way to catch Liquid split up
and off god, but the last few games that we've seen is the series yesterday from Liquid, the team
plays been pretty solid. It's hard to find a chance to break them apart.
No, not at all. Honestly, when they started buggy set, when they hit this time, they really
know their power. And this was honestly, this was OG actually looking to punish a bit of them split up.
They tried to make a quick, like, raw game in this position, but Ace gains the T.B.
There's a weird talk about that. Liquid will take any fight that comes to them.
And I do think for OG, like these are actual timings that they kind of have to fight around
because it's pre-mixed BKB. Then you actually have a chance to potentially kill him if you can get the
warning. You can get all the combos. With BKB, that adds a whole not a level of difficulty for them to
insert down, okay. It really is. Here's just don't really deal out that physical damage at all.
Blink, for Foxy finished up, how's the BKB for Nico looking?
It's close.
He has foregone his sharpness game, which I, for a pretty big deal, is a lot of damage, as we've
been mentioning a lot for these primals.
And there is still going to be ways to stop him.
A blink BKB grab, it can still get punched by the tusk.
So if I could swim with this, smoke up from, I don't know, yeah, just the moonlight shadows.
the smoke can be turned coming in from liquid and they are pretty scared and relatively split up this time
Oxi I see it's gonna try to put a stop doesn't he come or be a bishop amount of it get the shrine of wisdom
It's the liquid as well. It should be able to get out so Nico nice to get away with that
Shoot the long-slaught to just knock but but boxy out of the range of the wisdom
There's rock and he's probably running in hot from liquid though the smoke are from them
I'm already gonna get you got John and what's Tim's and they might just find out as well
and he shall answer for the long-suffered Niko.
He is going to get the BKP delivered.
He doesn't want to press it, though.
He's going to accept his fight,
knows that there's no way out, even if he does use it there
after gets delivered.
Niko dead.
They get a shrine at wisdom, but it does for a little bit
of a small consolation prize at this point,
followed the game, continue to slip away from OG.
Liquid gameplay is completely hit.
Every one of those enemies that we were talking about,
the triple core time is this logo got to far.
He got to just sit back and get a flag and it was with almost no contestant in this game.
Yeah.
I fit that.
I don't know. I feel like that just can't happen when you're playing versus zero.
If you want to keep against at this level 12, if you get to the ag climbing,
it's just, it's so hard to deal with.
Approaching the fights just becomes really difficult because you're like,
we want to kill Largo first, but it's a 2600 HP here I was 30 armor.
Yep.
And then who do you care about us? Because everybody's unslawable.
Correct me if I'm not, but yesterday right Falcons also did the weave against this right. I did work out.
They did.
Yeah.
So maybe OG filmed them a bit.
They had a bit of a different approach for that.
Well, I actually wanted to look at some of it.
Wasn't there a weave or that?
Did he go beyond God thinking that?
Was that one that he popped off in the beginning and then ended up just faltering?
I can't remember.
Because there was one of these games.
Yeah, he was a 12 and 4.
So this was one of those games I think that Sketer had a ton of kills and then just hit a brick wall of damage and couldn't do anything.
We'll be able to find a pickle.
They'll get toast though.
I think I can't do this game.
I guess again, you know, this game.
Now, assuming we've a...
It's getting us real good great.
It's farm for me.
That's what I mean.
That's what I mean.
That's what I mean.
That's what I mean.
But as you say, I guess, if we've a good game,
can't win the game against this sort of lineup,
you know, it maybe doesn't matter too much,
but now assuming it's getting as much farm as he has,
and maybe Liquid don't really care whatsoever about that.
Yeah, Liquid has, it's a weaver playing versus
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, here with everyone has a stun, right?
Maybe not the best stuns.
We'll talk about the Largo one, which is pretty crappy,
but they have stuns.
So we've overall, the game is not the easiest
for him to just skitter scatter inside of the fight.
Even if he is very farmed.
And the Timbertsaw, the concern that we have for the O'Pies
in particular, it's absolutely glaring, right?
Zero, three and five.
He's truly been dealt with.
Yeah, he turns up to the fight,
some again, in these five, he fires.
They'll kill him.
to
have a rough physical damage they have even the magical damage that gets
amped and added up even though it only uses that song that often you
still can sing that song get additional magic damage with taxes well
let's see what it gives you just wait too much if you get to this point honestly
log up
let's do it yes the day is the player comes from there and again it's
that just absolutely maximizing the farm because even though it's only like
it only is a four or five kb, right? It feels quite a bit bigger. Even though the
weaver's farming so well I'm just I'm worried of how they ever going to deal
with these super strong tanky cores on the side of liquid killing with supports.
They absolutely can do it but it's just killing the cores that's a big issue.
I mean, BK.
Where would you at this point never the way the team fights have gone? Do you think
There is that sort of cool to make the change of the game plan of like what we can't even really look for pick-offs
Let's just try and ensure that that soon gets the space to try and become this you know
It's hyper-carry on the weaver get completely stacked and somehow turn around the game when it comes to liquid trying to push the high ground
And it just sort of looks all in on a late game weaver. What do you do?
I don't know if it's like those you start. They just like the fight. So okay, let's see if they can get the successful fight because it's a hard one to approach
I mean, Nisha is backing away from the rest of Liquid. So if I was, you could try and find a way to get it on the rest of the four of them. Maybe there's a chance.
Hmm.
They have a greater healing load as two, so watch for big heals on OG.
This fuck has dispelled me, protects the tree line, and folks who was the one in range, but folks who already out there.
So Liquid, I'm not going to get caught by surprise here.
No, and OG needs pretty much the perfect kind of initiation of very specific one
And I don't even know what it is for them to actually get a fight because they need to grab it and pretty much not let themselves get disabled in any way
So they need to know what the tusk is because you can just punch that grab
difficult approach
Yo, Push arcane run. So he said fresh BKB for him
So a lot more survivable on the fight for those nine seconds has to get a lot done with it
I mean, if Ace gets BKB, I already don't know how to kill this time, if he gets BKB, I think there's no way they kill them.
he did on the weaver, so not to be compromised by any more damage.
Lika will be able to see the out of this one.
But that remnant and look to get missed.
I can't without actually pulled the mid to look to get missed for a second.
Make a standing tall. Again, they can kill the support.
They can't kill the chorus on.
That's the struggle.
That's the struggle. They tried to sort of turn that attempt.
I'm with seeing obviously a special one,
Mick has the ages. He's not afraid to just go for these
Link initiations even when the whole team isn't immediately they're behind him.
Here you go.
His walk down here is B.K.B.
Still on call-down for...
I think he's a trouble.
Watch him while he's on trouble.
Nikos, I don't know.
Nikos, I don't know.
Nice to see him coming in with the heels coming in with the damage.
Niko dead out for 45.
The nays will fall heel his buddy.
Oh, most fall heel his buddy.
As we got to see this, I sat in the room and looked at him.
just on the cuts for things to catch him, but good state-wise it's a chain stuns again anyway from liquid.
Yeah, you know, not two at the beginning, able to sort of step away time without the burst damage of your partial at least kill Foxy.
But yet, at this point, Dragon Tail, jump in forward, or get in the graph with the remnant and having just enough to take him out during that stun.
Despite Necro's best efforts to hold back the rest of it with the pole horizon, back in action, liquid up to the high ground, looking at the base now, Voguei.
As bottom racks in a lot of trouble, though,
everybody up, up in a couple of seconds,
me cut back in the game.
As bottom racks, pretty much gone in each shot.
As you can see, they get the grab on a yoke match.
They're looking to pull through and look at a PJP off,
they're jumping to pull off by the punch cups,
and the onto was me cut interrupt in the pull rise,
me cut and go back to the base.
The shots will catch onto the wall's knee cut.
They won't push for the kill liquid.
They'll happily use the space to secure the barracks,
continue to grow the lead and look to get up.
I think I caught it on the high ground, but Mickey's ready to help out, jumps him to watch the high ground.
Not afraid of them, able with the Hs gone.
He knows that they can't even kill him off the ones right now in this team.
Everyone full HP Ace is singing this song. His full BKB is coming out in the career 2.
They might?
Rieke? Okay, no, dragon forms anything. They're going to back away.
Boxy almost with the he got ditched there, because he's stuck on the wall, but...
It is. They say they're about about different.
I'm going to get a boat sail on the top of the high ground.
OG.
They're going to see if they can maybe catch them with them fast, but again, these
scams are hitting.
Liquid know what's up.
These wards as well.
They know the OG's back out on the map and again, OG aren't going to catch them
by surprise.
You can't get this.
You can't let the draft get set up.
Like when they're all set up with the, a marital gets the coming and they set up for
the fight.
It's absolutely beautiful.
They tried to jump.
not a real hero.
That was an illusion.
That happens. That happens.
They feel the pressure.
That's for sure.
They've got to try and just jump on anything that they see right now.
Just in case it works out.
Because they know if they sit back and wait until liquor rolls up to the base again with
a five-man push, then I'm not going to be pushing them back.
They're not going to be keeping the barracks alive.
Not against the siege potential off liquid right now.
No, look what they're identifying all of this as well.
They have two waves pushing in.
They know OG, they're playing on the top side, they're reading it perfectly, they're drawing the line, they're ready for this potential final fight
There we go
Big is it, quit
What do they want to do about this?
New life, Niko's gonna put the BKB pretty early on there
We'll be able to put the line, put the red that comes in
They'll turn it, we'll take the bullets, kill the front, they're done and have killed the frog
Can they go for more now? They'll look to boxy, take him out!
Two big kills here from OG to start the playoff
and make it, he's now surrounded, a horde is ground over to try and tell us
that I'm going to want you to fight for the...
The arrow comes in from Tim's, but it's going to be a...
What the arrow!
Bring me, get down, your back will still fall!
Nisha, sort of on his own head, can OG chase down this big killer as well?
I mean, it didn't lose two core themselves, but consider...
They might have to make it happen again, OG will absolutely take another arrow
Another arrow comes in, they'll definitely fly it.
With that clean up at the end,
and may have cost them the lives of your passion,
Nico, but getting four kills and the massive ones as well.
I think it all three of the cause,
O-Gi, showing signs of life are fucked.
They changed the arrow.
I'm pretty sure, Tim, see, hit an arrow onto Ace,
and then Ace gets an over-eyed, and I don't think
there was a punch in time to protect it,
for I got nothing off.
I think that was three hours that fight from Tim's death.
I think that's the first one coming in, sets them up to get the chance to kill
on ace and then just sort of watch Tim's positioning.
So it was played to the edge of the fight.
I think he lines up another one where coming in soon.
That wasn't said.
That doesn't.
It's as you throw on out now.
Yeah, there it is.
Comes in on to make a second hour, absolute winner there from Tim's.
And then at the end, obviously at that time, that one to help get the chance to take down
So OG, they do it that Tim's back to back to back three beautiful
hours from him. The most important one, of course, is that one on Ace though, right?
Ace did not get BKB off, did not get saved. I think BKB actually tried to
snowball them, but you can't snowball the pulverize. You have to punch that
pulverize. Ace dies before getting literally anything up. And it is the
hero that is rallying around. So that is how it is.
Yeah, that is an crazy but something that Falcons couldn't achieve against
Liquid right when they played against this line. I'm yesterday OG
show and it can be done. They can break it apart and that's got to be the playbook
right when they look at the quiz line of this game. Get that frog out of the game. They
have to go for ace first every single time. They can kill ace. They can take a
team fight. Pretty much I get that's their one condition. They have to get the
chainstone. I have to not let boxy save. So there's a lot of conditions, but
that was pretty much the perfect situation for all to happen. And that's you me now.
Now, if they also have some extra damage, has it 20, has the Gemini, has a small crit.
For the next fight, looks like if they can do similar, can they change the race?
Let me go and send you up with a more elaborate cent.
Freeze down.
The quickness in the make-up can make the jump first.
They can make the move first, so I'm too close to the guys, but the bullet, but he's out
from the side, he can get out of this, the punch reports, he says no, but he's not going
up.
That's Nico out of the fight.
Now, the quickness ready to push up from all.
He can't be from your patch, but he can't be changed away.
We're going for the TPL, but the BK, we've dropped last long enough, comes to an end.
Ice pass there as well as a second dragon tell stun.
They tried to get out in the map, but any time, of course, the liquid or the ones they're able to make the jump.
Liquid will win these team fights.
No, it really does have to be a fight where OG find ace.
If the goes to any other way, it's not going to be a team fight win for OG.
It also probably has to be that condition where they have the high ground advantage.
I think them walking into high ground is disastrous for those who take close to you.
to cure him also.
And liquid back on taking these barracks, taking these objectives, is going to be a mid-set
hit, take them by liquid.
Back to business, when Ace is actually able to play his hero, the fight does not, doesn't
look close whatsoever.
So if we rush on now from the K and J, they can head over and take that.
The question is, can OG get hit, quick enough?
They did everything.
Mo cut, they do, tens of's got one.
It's going to be a monster in your purse and it's going down so fast.
So liquid, and just get it out.
OG are smoking over.
But they still want to contemplate maybe looking for a fight after the Aegis is taken.
Could be an opportunity if liquid split up after this.
That's very risky though, but they do have to take these RIS OG.
They're not going to come back into this game sitting back.
They have to get out and loot for some sort of chance to get the jump.
prize liquid get their hands on a sparse
gotta see ace
our pinging where he is right now I think he saw the song for a second so
looking for a flank
I see my kibba again yeah you can't go on anyone else
none of the waves again bottom is starting to shove in mid so it's it's kind of
told where they're standing on the side of OG right now look at the very prepared
the
ages for four minutes making
he can cut it just do his own thing now in the team fights I think for side of liquid their whole thing is just protect ace and he they will put it in the fight
make it will is very unlikely to die twice as long as they can just make sure that ace doesn't get picked off the fight should be successful in the energy right
They just have to kill Ace, they have to somehow get changed, don't let Foxy save him.
That's the win condition.
Cheever's...
Venetia?
Y'all, I'm sorry.
Nico is getting close to Cheever's too, but I think it got slow down.
That's really getting very close to that, don't you?
I need to ace up.
Probably one of those games right where he spends up, right? I don't know if you say goodbye.
He has to.
I think you have to.
I think you have to.
the jump. They're trying to get out of there but the punch
comes in. Bots is not the control. The punch is in the shot.
The other break is way down to the low ground. He's ticking out to the damage
game from time to time. Again, any time they quick at a jump it's an easy move for
them to make. That's right. The two kills, Nisha's going to be ready to
bring in the top wave. Look towards this final tier 2 tower.
You might even find scammed by accident here scammed.
Hello.
More.
Nice to be also seized the chance to...
Anika Maevinika.
Look at the blink off.
He's trying to protect the wave.
So Nisha really wants to make sure they have this wave for the push, and Niko's trying to cut it.
Not going to be able to.
That's it.
So on the top, she's going to be gone very quickly.
Liquid two and a half minutes here where they can be prepared to jump into the base, trying to get the mega creeps against OG.
What are they got?
They're trying to wait for it.
It just sees the chance to make the top one go on scam.
The full starfish there.
Scam will be kept alive.
Let's wait.
You should now put the jump potential for whole back.
Don't sing the tower first.
I don't need the kills right now.
They're just getting you to get these objectives.
Look for the barracks.
Okay, he's having us.
You got the car rounds off of it as well.
The yellow page ends up sending out.
I hope them back momentarily boredious affair amount of damage done to the melee barards. Oh, she's got everybody back up
Liquid smash on here. They're hiding dragon forms in five seconds. They're ready to go
Tanner
Does finish it
Yeah, it's not something to make that. Okay, for
Or it's having to be there just to jump someone to your patch.
It's going to be the melee Rax gone.
It's the range Rax remaining in each day's in with the jump.
It's the science out of the two of them.
Oh, gee.
A lot to move in now, Nico holds back.
But the damage is done.
Rax have been taken.
They get the red and the draft.
I swear there's the punch points here with the follow.
They're too north now.
So he does not buy back available.
Nico's trying to get in there with the truffle.
But he falls as well.
He has the buyback ready to go over.
They can have to try to femphore versus five.
Scan, look at the heel off.
It looks a horsemaker, but it comes with a super peek at me,
so I try to hate you.
She's got everything ready to go.
It's a dive back on Ecos.
GV is called Liquid.
They'll take the second game at 2-0 now,
against OG and the Spester 5.
OG, wherever the test them a little bit more
in this game, too, but not enough Fogs.
They had that one fight,
where they showed that you could kind of see
maybe what their idea was in beating this liquid line up,
But it was such a small window of execution and liquid just didn't let that happen again.
Yeah, honestly, this is just a look very reminiscent of the game from yesterday that liquid had just hit these timings and then as soon as it's it really looks almost impossible and, you know, they're talk probably about the panel about with the timber picking other maybe could have been something better to round things together and pressure to your posh
He really struggled in this game. That's probably the biggest takeaway from me at least in terms of that how he was not going to be able to pressure Nisha and he should just ran rampant with the game 2-7-2 and 13
it.
Yeah, this look a gameplay.
It just seems too strong.
I think, you know, you can't get the same draft twice, also.
They didn't get it.
Oh, that's really everything.
It's so good.
So LG, they can only improve.
Well, that's what we'll see.
At the least, you know, lasting a bit longer here in this game, too, as opposed to game
Wanda still definitely not a comfortable long throw.
You have to play through liquid, looking pretty, pretty comfortable in the spot.
They're in right now up to zero here.
Against OG.
It is the most dominating lead in a best of five that we've had so far at Blastlam 6 and
liquid whilst it was that slow start that we just had folks talk about right there.
I do have to give props to OG as well.
They were trying to do a lot more for themselves and you guys did not like their drops at all.
So I feel like they did a lot with not a lot, you know what I mean?
I completely agree.
I think they've genuinely outplayed the level of their drafts quite a bit.
I think high spec is getting a lot of much more especially after how the start you look at the skirmish happening here and you should get these three kills
It gets off to an amazing start after that
Who it's rough but OG made some nice moves they kept again even and they even put a little bit of lead for a small period
But at some point I think the hero thing kicks in and I also think liquid played much more comfortably throughout the game
I mean, it's just like when you look at the software that obviously there's always gameplay to be had but like I agree with Queen
that we talked about before. It does eventually get harder for them, I think, especially when
Lickick gets like their second or third round of items like a DKB against this timber.
And yeah, I mean, I can see the timber work and you can be cut with your items, I think you
needed to go there eight hours. But at the end of the day, when you 24-pick mid into an
open 23-mid-pick like this that Nisha did, you need to have more coming out of it or the game
will just kind of be hard. It just felt like Urgi was lacking the, right? Like when you look at
look at heroes as you again post mentioned the optimization of liquid is a
never-for-mote when it's break-o-jews drive. I need to see more like if you're
picking a 24-pick timber it's distracting in the lane it's the run across the
map it's to do everything and just to show there's a couple fights that
looked okay but I don't know this is still looking very different OGs and what we
saw in the group stage right in the group stage we were excited by that game
play surely still had some losses to their name but like there was this
It's like a tenacity that you had across all their players and now so far in these two games
Maybe it's just a matchup difference where liquid is maybe it's a better team on the matter of sense
But I'm not seeing OG put up that fight with it actually having moments
Because you know we can with this game. It feels like they're playing for survival not playing for with
Yeah, and there was always a plan B when it came to the drafts on the side of OG as well
If they weren't able to run their opponent over with that early aggression then you had that late game
scaling carrier on the side of nuts to me that hasn't really come out and game one
or game two here and I have to say I loved the fights that OG took and they could
take log out of the pictures straight away and now I just wonder if the logo gets
let through or if something similar gets let through you're just gonna have someone
that is able to have that target prioritization someone to really eliminate him
from the fight yeah it's uh this is one of the problems that have his
investment three or best of five when you're down zero two is new heroes keep
appearing that problem. Yeah, yeah, they're just mounting up and you're not getting any more
bands. Your bands are the same amount, but you feel scared and threatened by more and more
heroes and dealing with that is very, it feels very overwhelming. It feels like there's so
many problems. We need to fix so many things that once, like, it actually feels like stuff
is washing over you. It's a lot of much to think about. You're looking at the graph. Oh,
he's ahead of me here and this guy's ahead of me there and all the go to pluses, they have
a higher wind chance, but why it's just so many questions and it's so hard to answer them.
And then you're currently, like, I need more prioritization.
You're mid-Late is like, bring more numbers mid,
and then you're off lane is like, well, I'm getting sucked to me.
Like, okay.
And you're still in the middle of the series.
Yeah.
I think it's also one of the pros, like if I look at OG Straft,
I don't love their support rules as much.
And I think you just because the first 10 minutes are actually quite good.
They were good on this game too when it comes to the gameplay.
But I think once the mid-game hits, it's quite hard for them to team fight.
Usually, in other games they've played, sure, maybe they have less team fight,
but then the minute one to 15 goes better to make up for it.
But maybe like different support rules,
Just give your person something that people can naturally play through, maybe a DK.
I think that's also better suited against Nietzsche's hero pool.
Because my bro goes to any lane, just free farm skats, all the items he wants, and I think
OG don't find this natural connection that they need.
That's just...
Anything happening for them, and maybe in the balance you look towards the boxy, maybe
you look towards, actually having some threat, because if you're giving liquid a
logo, and you don't have any early game, we always talk about, you need to use your
I can still go to Lago, guess what, he's getting the third act of free.
He's getting the next item for free.
He's joining the fight and saying,
you need to do something to disrupt the mates.
I've not seen once in this series, A-Sco,
or I need to farm and make my even take some of the mechanics farm.
I might actually overlap the niche in farm.
Like all three cores in liquid are farming where they want,
they're doing what they want.
Like there's no point in which liquid's still threatened.
So their drafts are just a net to be getting to the point where
it's like, and now we break them.
So even if there's moments of OG, OG is kind of playing into
liquid scheme, and it kind of goes back to my point where I'm not
saying OG playing this series that is basically just existing and liquid kind of buying
right now.
I totally agree.
I think you can see some of that shakingness whether they're not in the zone, in the
kill scores or rather their scores at the end of the game.
But you look at the two cores, I think especially from your Apajr Niko, I think that
is particularly applying quite shaking in this series.
And I feel for them because it's difficult to be locked in, especially when you don't
have the experience.
But you look at their scores.
They're like two in seven in this game, was it two in seven, eight, seven, eight, four.
These are scores of what happens when you're running into the fights and you're not thinking
about your hero.
And you're just sort of casting your spells, you cast them too deep, and then you die
every team fight.
These are the scores that happen when you're dying every fight, and that means your
goal is going to be bad.
You're not going to get the snowball going and you're not going to get as established
that control of the game right.
Which is why I think it feels like even when they win a team fight, it doesn't really feel
like the game has changed.
They get so many heroes are dying every fight.
You're not getting that gold ramp up, and I think that's where you see it the most.
Yeah, because we were seeing them bring those numbers towards mid early.
Not just this game, but game one as well.
we're going to focus on it happening in this game and they might get the pick up on let's
say boxy or maybe even nature in the very small moments that they do but there isn't anything
else that eventually it's from it.
Yeah I mean I think that's definitely true and they made a lot of good moves early
again like I think the fact that even after an issue gets that triple kill earlier in
the game that they're just running five heroes have been a kill box and they almost
kill niche here with slightly better spell casting like I think the fact that they are
making moves and not scared just farming that's a great sign.
But look at the mini-back and both of these clips.
The DK is top of the logo's bottom.
It's got as little as looking at this aggression from OG and going,
oh no, we have to go at, you know, let's just chill it.
It's like they've kind of clearly accepted the fact that this is going to happen.
And I mean, that's where for OG, I love seeing this type of aggression.
But it needs to really take the mid-tower and then you go find a DK.
Or then you go find the logo.
You have to keep connecting the kills.
If you just do this one move, you're probably going to be down on Golden XP,
because you're not killing the other two calls on the side of the map,
who are not doing anything whilst it's a 5B3.
So again, it looks good, but it also actually looks kind of bad when you look one layer deeper.
Yeah, I mean, like you can see that they're making a lot of good moves. I mean, we're not talking as much about
Liquid because I think they're doing a lot of good moves themselves like in the game.
Yeah, I think they have like a lot of clutch stuff as well that they're doing like they were going for one of their own
smalls in this game as well because look here. There's like your push in the front, but I want like people to understand
They're poking him to make other people show look. They're just poking his shield from back.
The moment this primal beast is down here. Now they immediately focus on them. So they kind of
is using this timber as a meat shield to then like okay what's your reaction we're
gonna go on someone else and I think these are like the moments where you need to feel
very clean and nice like understanding okay we're gonna go on the timber but that's
a very big difference whether you say we're gonna all in this timber and it's garbage
or you say we poke him and then we go on someone else because suddenly it turns from
like a disaster to a very clean like what three kills you get at your one tower and
I think when we're saying it it is very difficult to like be clean especially when you
you play it a LAN, you're now down zero to, I think this talk between the series is what
like between the next game even, is super important, because the next game, it could just
come down to emotions really, because if you're not clean, you're going to play won't be
either.
And you look at the map state, right, on that situation, Liquid, they are the ones who are
playing clean because they can see three tier one towers, they don't take any of their
own, and then they get the axe logo, now you see them as five heroes and making the move.
So all the plays that were kind of praising OG, again, you're kind of falling into Liquid
trap, because that was the rule time of the stuff, 15 minutes.
So, yeah, Liquid, they're the ones who have come,
they're the ones who don't need to make adjustments
and Vogue, all the pressures on them now in this break.
And on the flip side, you see them,
OG, they're kind of just running into the Ags logo fight.
Like, you know he's been AFK for him,
you're gonna have a whole game at this point.
He just gets it.
And then you go take a 5v5,
when your primal has one blinked agger,
your heroes do not specialize in teamfighting against them
and you just hand them exactly what they want.
To me, it's another one of these instances where
sure Liquid is making a good move,
they're going to the mentality of bringing numbers.
But OG, they just massively overreact
and they're not actually reading situation
and not understanding that you'll this logo has eggs.
We need to weigh into, we have this item, more that item,
and then we can fight.
We need to fight in these different contexts.
It's just like, oh, there's a fight, I should fight.
That's what I'm supposed to do,
and they're not, they're just doing what they're supposed to do.
And that's really what you don't want.
To be fair, I saw that OG has done
throughout the entire group stage,
because you know, earlier when I showed those clips
that I accidentally showed them dying,
five years at the time,
like they are doing this thing where it's like,
when there's an idea, they all go away, you know?
So I feel like in another world,
if they played the lanes,
they had like that slightly that's up a move we're gonna praise it for being this
relentless aggressive team but I think the fact that they're still doing it in
losing situations or moments where maybe you need to be a bit more kind of
I guess classy with your actions like that's where OG is falling short because
that there one move is always gonna be the same move I'm gonna give them praise
I'm gonna say the facts that it's getting better and better that game one felt like
run over for them game two early game maybe a little bit of misplaced towards the end
It might have been a little bit too late and back game to be able to have some good
target prioritization. It's on the off-casent.
It is on the off-out in order for me to believe in the next game.
No, no, but you have to just be full PMA. Imagine this is a ranked game.
You're about to get that in this style.
You're your own ranked.
Let's do this one.
Someone got someone to pull up.
A couple have been reverse swept before. It's not impossible.
That was not really the cup I was looking for, but I will definitely take it.
Thank you so much, great, and most, you know,
and there's a lot of fun that happens here on the panel.
There's a lot that goes in to a event like this behind,
the scenes as well, so I'm gonna give you guys
a little bit of a sneak peek behind.
No, this is Kobe, I have to mean this.
I'll be happy.
I know, we don't know where we're going to come.
Cut, Hunter, we're gonna get him so fast
if I'm not about this.
It's just so fast, we need to focus now.
Hey guys, I was just working on the winning ceremony for Blossom 6, Japanese ideas.
I mean, Tundra's gonna win again, what's the point?
I mean, maybe.
What are the spices up and customize it just for Tundra?
But what if someone else wins?
Like, it feels kind of risky.
No, that's literally impossible.
I can't have fathom at even time by without existing.
Let's make it special, just for Tundra.
OK, listen, punters at, the warning plane,
everything in Canada's no time to change it.
They told us they were gonna win.
They, they, they, they, they,
Depends on writing engraved a trophy as well,
Quinn...
Yeah, what were just making me a custom trophy,
like, just for Thundra.
It's a really good idea.
I didn't.
I really don't think, I, I'm not sure, guys.
I don't think that's a good idea.
That's engraved the trophy already with the name
that Thunderplay is just, you know,
stay some time and stay some money.
Had that smart, just.
I knew I shouldn't listen to you guys.
We've got to make a new trophy fast.
What about the kids that are not going to work with another team, Lance?
And if there's a confetti, let's make it Thunderfiend colors,
so that it's a beautiful and tundrum that happy it's $100, $100, that's more tundrum.
I love this gadget!
Whoa!
Yeah, and we've even had a whole damn rehearsals with $100,
just for the trophy look secret.
Well, we're at it.
Might as well get a tundra special rehearsal,
because, you know, they all are going to win,
and we don't want to let it incident.
I guess that was just a huge waste of time.
What do we do now?
Do we pick OG to pick Navi?
We need to go all in on a new team.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
We've already learned from that mistake.
Okay, but we've got to make this ceremony even crazier.
Even better than before.
Why don't we just do it to go fashion mine?
Like, me, you see that?
That's literally what I said.
I told you this wasn't going to work out.
That was a good bit.
I think you guys spent my favorite part of the bat.
That was a good bit, I think you guys spent my favorite part of the bat.
I think you guys did a good cause the number of times you guys had to say their name.
I think it's a big hit.
I actually said the name once actually.
Do you just run the back please production?
No.
No.
No.
No.
You said it was good.
They're not here.
Congratulations everyone who's throughout the multi.
You don't have to watch Tundra when again.
Woohoo!
Good riddance.
Maybe that will talk about that.
They're not.
They probably are OG fans of the OG.
Yeah.
I know that's a group of OG fans.
What does it look like for fans?
Please come to more things.
Liquid?
No, let's liquid.
I'm a OG.
We're OG-pilding this in this audience, Michelle.
And look, that's a tough pill, just follow them,
because right now they're O and 2 down in this best of five.
And we have been talking about things that they want to be able to bring to the table to do better.
And that's mostly because it is hard to criticize the team that's winning.
It's hard to offer anything else to liquid right now when you've
favored that dropped both in game one and game two as well as their execution.
Yeah, I think they are just in a better head space right now.
I think even if you look at their sort of the way that reacted after the game,
it was very nonchalop like they're looking at the game.
They're just casually talking about who improve and fix things.
Like when you're when you're ahead in these situations,
I think there's a fine line between you don't want to get cocky and feel like this is
easy you're stopping people because I have them right they have been stopping OGD's
past couple of games but it is very possible that one little thing changes like
though it is such a game small things that if a little thing tweaks suddenly
everything can feel very very different you doubt's constructor creep in and
suddenly one lost acts up the second loss happens you're like oh shoot now we're
back now we can lose again and so it is not but even though it feels very far off
for the players it is very very doable if they're able to to change little things
and lock-in.
I mean, it's always closer than it feels for sure, like it kind of creeps in your head.
And it feels horrible, but in my opinion, if I look at OG, I want a better support that
you can do stuff, and your push on a here that also combines with this, and just a mid game,
where you can fight back against Liquid, because these games, they should not be over
at like minute 20 or 25.
Like, GG out this early, just shows that your mid game and your team fighting, you
don't have strength.
Well, this is where OG are going to have to make a count for themselves.
It's the best of five they're already two games down and we're going to need to see what
they pull out in a game three draft.
It is back to OG, oh back to OG having first pick here just like in game 1 for themselves.
And we weren't really too sure if that was going to favor them as there was that bluff
call from Liquid, I'm going to pick up Viper, is this a hero you can play.
And so now I wonder what sort of game of chicken is going to unfold in a game 3 where
OG have that advantage?
Keep it simple, just okay, all right, you're not allowed to carry it, no, it's a pretty
great.
Well, that's at least one good changer right because in game one when OG had first pick they
Bended to cure themselves so now that's something extra that liquid had to bend and allow another here
or through but that's because liquid did also ban Chen and TA in this position and obviously you're never gonna first pick a TA
They are as an investment ban
So that's like who's gonna go and hmm we respect your chin then they beat the chin so it's kind of like a
Is OG gonna run back to it like it's that's kind of the debate
They don't, they ain't going back to the microphone.
A hero that was what's critical in game one because of not utilizing your
project's map play, even though you do by boot to travel with a clunky and
mid-hero, it's not as kind of explosive in that regard, it's just very
tiny.
I believe they have played this hero before on even not Suomi.
I don't know if Nico has played it, but I feel like I've at least seen him
played a hero as a carry.
So there is the world that this can be flexed.
At least if you're going to have it like this, I want still the rest to be like
more suited around the hero. I think offline Mars later down the line. Mealy guys that
go in for you whether it's a task or clock, you know, on-scam who was very capable of also playing
the Mealy Fires and you know like leading the charge for the team. I also just want one draft
but I look at the OG supporters and go, you can follow tofu and boxes as well. I can feel
like there's an even footing at the early game because that is where Liquid is shining. Like even
looking at the boxy's interview, but again, it's not because I was surprised that they didn't
really play for a mid but we do and then we just got my arena. It's kind of the same thing
happening here with liquid is just a little bit better on paper.
I mean OG of course when they do go to midday I'll bring it 4-5 here instead.
I mean with this pick I think the script for the game has already been set and as we
said it backstage but Largo is basically alchemist in the offline he's just farming.
He will not do anything else is going to sit there with his or Camboots and he's going
to farm and so for OG you need tempo or you need to have theory craft in the break
some way to crack this hero's midgame timing when he gets the eggs because if you can't
do that, then liquid is going to do the same thing as before. They're going to farm, farm, farm, farm, farm, farm, and then you can't fight them anymore.
Yeah, you're going to try and turn me in lane, even having something like where our support is freed up to go and block a camp in the jungle.
First of all, go to grammar centuries, then unblock it, like do all these little motions because you're going to kind of allow logger just to AFK for 15.
Yeah, if I'm going to be looking at high damage, like giga damage, and just like straight-up corners to logger,
whether you're looking at like new clear counters
of like AA, Doom, or do you want
to like over damage like some Mars,
snap fire, you pick us,
then carry later to also go in
and just get the guy out of the game.
Cause we've seen it.
If you don't kill this guy first,
this entire team are just gonna live
throughout the entire fight.
They keep healing everyone in his armor
and you're not gonna win it.
I do wonder if you go in for more aggression
or if we have to fall back on the bat
of, oh, you put yourself on a time and now,
and that's the bit of an issue.
If it is that going to be an advantage for OG or is the two games down too much pressure?
Well, you couldn't build a lineup as aggressive and has insurance policies built into it,
but the last two jobs that they've had haven't had that.
So, there are aggressive teams in Dota. There are ways to do it.
I mean, they look with any aggressive team?
Yeah.
Yeah, look, it's pretty good.
Gotcha.
Yeah, he really only on that one.
I mean, I think they could look for something like Sven Plus AA, like I can look for,
for some carry that has a good match against Largo, and then also like a later game counter.
I like that they bend the puck. On the flip side, I think it's much better for
liquid to have a sniper or a leaner. This game compared to the other one,
with the already had shadow-feet, and I think those heroes are going to fit very well.
Now you've got Largo, this tanky boy, so you can have a more like range DPS hero that's
good against the Viper. To that counter is the problem that Largo is AFK farming,
if you've got another FK farming range here that has to lean against Viper, you are very
volatile being trampled. Like that is the weakness of this logo here, it's super slow, so liquid,
OG, they can take the game off. That is where I think Liquid excels up being one of the
better logo teams, because if they do have two farming calls, someone else will step up to
try and be a bit noisy in the early game, right? If you're made in offense farming,
because you're going to play the monkey king or next profit star here or to go, hey, look at
me, right? And then I'm going to buy his time, and of course you can then interchange that
that with Nisha.
I think it should also consider banning Mars.
I think on the same lag line that we're talking about where.
You know, excuse me, where Queen is mentioning,
you want like a Lena or sniper.
So if you were a counteractit as OG,
you need to also think about, okay,
they're gonna want this hero.
Let's take the Mars for ourselves
because it's super good against the heroes
that Liquid should be looking at against the Viper in the middle.
I just don't wanna see primal beasts again.
All right.
Yeah, I'm down to shelf, this guy.
Like Falcon's tried it, they lost two games.
Oh yeah, let's do it.
All right, let's do it.
They take the nature of them.
I guess that's fair. But only primalistic nature is perfectly fine.
He is the aggressive carry.
It does open up the options for a last pick,
niche, you hear it down the line.
Double core opening, feel like good.
Little OG counter to Viper.
Like whether you lean against it,
I mean back in a day, you would go to Trience and kind of beat him,
but now you can TP on his lane when he overplayed Super Slow and Sluggish Hero.
Yeah, it's definitely I think it would be better as carry and you just chain gang this guy made you come to these ruin fights
If he's starting getting the kills going yeah, like he said you need some active heroes you've got a log of he's farming so balance that out and
Already I think Viper is in a he can be a little bit of a sticky situation
You're gonna need to execute very clean on me. Oh, okay. Yeah, go put it up.
This is a port combo T where I feel like your size enough for an answer.
It's like they've realized the issues of logo throughout this best of five.
They've come up with a solution but in draft I feel like they've now opened themselves up for other pacing problems
because this is like a teamfight thing, right? I find logo, I find the court I'm going to kill him
killing but now I need to respect the fact that you have an inch in a
version which is a weeklainer to shouldn't force can out exploit that potentially
you have a clock who's gonna be your four position pulling waves and they're
not gonna be the best like riding towards mid and like breaking them it's like
clock can help and survive but yeah I'm just slightly worried about the
early game like there's what supports they could bring the damage they can
provide but yeah short in the game great ice-boss took short one guys gonna
die it's it's a lot better than before while I understand it like I don't
think the draft is particularly good against the nature's profit at all
both AA and Viper heavily suffer.
The Fune, again, is easy to zero.
Yeah, but OG's 18 picks, I think they have some good heroes on the menu.
Whether it starts here or potentially spend,
because actually, the dark sea was not banned in the straff.
And if I'm looking at what Liquid are doing,
they're going to overrun you on some lane.
So if I'm OG, I would love heroes that either I can play through,
or that can go to the Viper mid and actually help when Mika Teepp is there
to make something happen.
Is that a potentially no moving to...
Who wins for it?
Yeah, I think you're right.
But when I see engine operation, my hesitation was because the leaning, right?
It's great for the game, but against any zoom, you do nothing against kill combinations,
you do nothing, you literally just a right-click high range bot, that's it.
And then you're hoping for your little sick.
So if beast is going to offline, buying him with dumb, pushing through your towers, there's
a concern there.
Yeah, this is a pretty strong pivot from Liquid.
Yeah.
And this hero's work worked very well together.
You've got a bunch of stuff that can go in for an anxious profit.
is famously bad against Borsan land, so they need some counter the jar of the jar.
Yeah, but Charles is a clear typical option.
Yeah.
I don't think it's bad.
But it just feels like it just exists.
They do go for it.
The reason I'm like a little hesitant for the jar is just...
When you have us for who can pull the waves,
ancient oppression can't stop that.
Even though you can kill the balls,
if the waves never in a position where Charles truly threatening beasts,
because it will us for it can do.
But yeah, that's what we, it's going to form.
That is, you know, full stop done.
And the weakness is AA is fixed by the strength of Jarrett.
It doesn't really need too much help.
Gets a flag and just shoving the wave.
Yeah, like I would say, I don't love it,
but it gives you, in my opinion,
what liquid are kind of cornering you into,
like where you want to have this strong guy in the lane.
You want to help your AA out of the lane.
If they're like dive, majority else obviously,
happy to TP there and it does give you a lot of team fights.
So I think with how this series has been going,
I understand that there go for a gyro here and it should make them feel good.
And then for Niko, we're now looking for an affair that can start a fight or it's just
keep the game alive, right?
Because you have to go for unblown with horrors, but then you don't have good lockdown,
but it's a good objective if the game, you've got tight under as well, good lockdown, you
get eggs, just keep shoving, but all separate them.
Do you need that simple blink and stuff?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think when you're there in your team, you need as many chads who can stunt tables as
as you can get, especially with Viper and Jyarkopter.
I think anything that's not some sort of a fight starter,
clockwork being your only fight starter against Beastmaster,
against saves, and the G of magnetic grip,
and also the lick, I think, is not going to end well.
And forstap is already too good in this game,
so you need something that prevents that from being a very powerful tool.
Otherwise, Lickokin just play off,
chiding off, and pulling people back,
all of these four steps,
you can be used resetting spells,
and then you go, you will have a difficult time
locking people down.
So the more it's been, makes the tone of sense.
It's also a matter of bloggers and still just be offline.
These just goes mid-profit, is carrying down this.
A whole new kind of option in play, right?
So they've been unloading cells, which isn't mid-interesting.
I feel like it's like a trucker ban on tight OGR and super happy.
I mean, they could try to go, but they haven't lost with Arksir,
but leaning Darksir into Largo as well.
He's going to like dispel some stuff and it's a bit, he's for your draft.
I mean, you build or us, which is cool.
Liquid are low damage, so I understand you're going to look for an off-laner
that gives you teamfight in any capacity.
But I would expect liquid to probably take up the tight-on-ther.
Yeah, I don't even think, yeah.
They do, they do, they do.
Exactly.
I mean, it's the perfect two bands.
I think they could've taken the center of it, they didn't ban it themselves.
I think that was maybe a pretty gigantic whipsy if a man is.
Maybe brewmaster?
How does it interact?
If you throw up a logger, can you still sing this to the song?
No.
Not probably not.
But I think it's quite low damage, and it's no stunts.
But it's the same boat of BPD's force, that's...
I'm a host player in the game.
Bipers is a lot new.
It's made OG's pretty much playing on,
but we want to, when you come to fight us,
we'll be ready to fight you.
And you know, tiny AA clock bipers,
they were enabling traveling somewhere to damage,
but they're still that looming for it
of Liquid's team timing.
That's the main thing.
OG surely get kills,
but Liquid's team timing just looks very, very scary.
I honestly like the idea of finding a pipe buying offlainer,
and then kind of shuffling the heroes down a roll.
I mean, I think these guys
are definitely being mid now.
These, this, I'm gonna saw a second's hyper in lane, but I think it's very good against tiny in lane.
You can take the darks of yourselves on liquid.
Um, potentially.
You got a lot of options.
Okay, yeah.
Ace, like it.
This A, wants to die.
Yeah, no, he emailed us, clover.
Oh, look at this.
Oh, that's pliper.
All right.
That's good.
Oh, I've got a fat plant.
Didn't think we'd be able to get a howl for a like.
Well, you're a T.I.
No, I haven't in the crowd.
Ever time like an house.
Yeah, but I've been, yeah, sure.
I mean, I don't know what to do.
I'm not sure.
So at least, I mean, you play mid-beast.
You kind of want to play on ads.
So he's going to have a good lane,
but I think that ads build isn't as good against the AA.
You can't get blown up, so that's one bonus.
I would say for OG straft.
I mean, they have to play on chaoticness.
I would say chaoticness plus your push with the two supports,
because Liquid straft, if they have their summons together
and they power dive you somewhere.
I think unless Nutsumi comes in giga clutch, it looks hard.
I'm excited to watch Skim just sit in the fountain in the entire game and then hope to hit a nice boss from like max range
That's what I'll go. I mean it is awful wolves as well. So this I feel for Skim this game
He's gonna be bit by every number of things. I mean I think liquid's dropped is better
I think this is the most playable draft for OG specifically like I think for other teams
It's not ideal, but for them. I think they can play. I think it's hard
but you back to get to the wall, play your best.
Yeah.
I do have OG's coach Adam, the man,
behind the magic.
And I don't know if you're listening to my panelists.
The kind of favoring liquid dropped a bit,
so I need you to give me and all the other OG fans
and words of encouragement about this dropped.
Well, I mean, I think we just generally want to play out here
or send our style right.
And things our picks are always like the greatest on paper,
but we figured out ways to make it work
because we're comfortable with it.
So I think we're kind of happy.
That's awesome to hear and look logo as a hero everyone has different takes on it
I know now. This is the second time you guys are playing against it. It's on the side of liquid
What's your take on how do you guys feel about logo?
I think the hero has witnessed us for sure. Well, we feel to punish like the week or timing like before these eggs
I didn't get them to go have gone either way
I think it's definitely like one of those heroes that people are still figuring it out. So I think we have a I think it's like a good solution
So we'll see how these game goes.
Yeah, we will find a question.
When we're seeing those last phases of bands coming out,
a lot of off-leaders, not in the pool anymore,
is that what indicated for you guys
to swap that Viper and pick up a tiny mid
or were you just always going to run it that way?
We were definitely considering the Viper mid as well,
but I think the tiny looks pretty nice here
is very good against the aggroist.
It's also some just wave clip
because they picked this NP to kind of go on this Viper mid.
I think that's like the general idea behind it.
and some way that we want to play.
So I think we have ended up with a pretty well-rounded
draft this time.
Yeah, I think so too.
I thank you so much for joining me.
Good luck in this one here.
Hopefully we're going to see a little bit more out of OG
as it is now game number three in our best of five.
The game three time LX and gentlemen, Liquid,
currently up to zero against OG,
can OG start to swing the series back in their favour.
Fogs, coming into this one,
cause they're first picked from Liquid,
they get their logo out of there as we have from Adam.
You know, OG respond, they get to say,
it doesn't end up being a bit of a switch up from Liquid.
They say, you know what, this logo is supporting this time.
Ace gets the last pick like in.
What do you make of this?
You know, we have for the panel,
they saw a little bit more potential as opposed to some of the other draws from OG.
Do you see that again here or you want to get more from them against Liquid Law and up?
I think this is the better one that I at least in terms of what I see compared to the other
two.
Because I do feel like this was one where they can't fight back if they don't get steam
rodent lanes.
My worry is they could just get steam rodent lanes and then their fighting looks really awkward.
But if they can come out of these lanes in a decent spot, they do have, you know, they
are playing to this triple kind of melee with a gyro.
If they can land these abilities, get their levels, the natural, just, you know, natural
abilities from their heroes are quite strong.
It's as I don't think Liquid's going to be clustered as much in this game like that.
They'll have summons, they'll be playing kind of differently at those fields.
So let's see if they approach emoji.
Actually, it's a working with their comfort versus Liquid's, I would say counter picks.
It's something that you don't see too often anymore.
And I'm glad the panel did say this.
I feel for Scam.
This could become one of those games we're just dying to alpha wolves and just some like random
critters.
One up in the easiest one, friend, this time round.
It's going to be the guy.
Down to you, screw in the way.
I've liquid to start things off.
And at the top, we're coming in with some nice body blocks.
Your patch in trouble.
Can they finish?
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's another lick.
And now, oh, don't we, Rick?
We wanted to go for the kill, but the lick.
Not enough damage to finish the job.
It's going to be first put in from G.
It's now semi-pixit up.
T-pies out of the top lane.
But that looks scary for a second.
I was like, oh my god, your posture has treat throw obviously.
So they can't actually do anything to slow them.
But he's got back up of his teammates.
Nicely done. Good luck.
That should not be careful.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Well, that happened.
He just can't walk the down.
He just walks down.
Yeah.
And that's, you know, there's not no great news there.
Let's look at the other lanes for the OG fans out there.
We'll come back to that one.
So the side, thanks, folks.
What will we go on there?
All right, it's, I feel like I can't even look away from that, though, he, whatever.
I mean, that's brutal.
Okay, anyway.
So for trying to catch waves, he's got for more stat items.
Don't see this always on the Largo.
Pretty strong, pretty safe lane overall.
The Largo puts the nature's profit hard for them to get aggressive.
So for Viper, how do you get aggressive as a Viper?
If you're just your poison attacks, you're going to get licked off.
So might just be a farming approach from the Viper, at least from Nico.
I can't look away from it now.
I don't know.
That can't happen.
No, Puzzle's got to clean up the duct there in the midline.
Off without death.
That's a rough point.
He regent upright like he was so low.
So maybe it was something.
I don't know whatever.
That's up.
He's just going to have a pretty good time anyway in the matchup.
I don't know.
I do like it.
It is a beast master versus tiny, so it's super good play versus most of these maylays.
I just think he was just, you know, from through the game, just then,
and so today around the shirt he's been looking.
Look at me absolutely on the top of this again.
That's uh, this tournament.
Yeah, it's strong very early timing line up again that Liquid wants to play around, super
fast-paced looking to set tempo.
But yeah, I think OG, if they do come out of lanes in a decent spot, they have ways to
fight around it with this jarrel cop there, since he's the answer versus the collapse
that's going to come.
Not the player, the collapse of the heroes that's going to come from Liquid.
Definitely, now one thing, that's going to be less of an issue this game for OG.
is going to be the logo, right?
You know, being the support position,
rather than call different, it's going to be
completely different and different in a way
where we've definitely seen a fair few games
where the support logo can look underwhelming.
That's been in four position though, right?
I think.
You know, a lot of them.
Yeah, you're right.
So you think it's not obviously less impactful
both ways, right?
If it's not because much, it doesn't matter as much.
You're expecting less.
I personally, like I like this as a 5-in-a-3, right?
I think the hour is very hard to make work because you get literally no farm and you don't really have kill threat
You're kind of just like this lane pulling pseudo
Not sure because you're a kill threat for roaming either, so I've taken five and three it suits in most situations is a bit better
Especially with a steam make it is gonna have free farm
Very difficult for them to ever get aggressive and they can even get aggressive themselves
You know, making it does life to be pretty active with this nature's profit so eyes on those rotations if there's any mistakes in lane
Looks boxy up to them.
See them play this a couple of times also.
The Earth Spirit support, they've been trying to make it work.
Of course it's gotten a lot of...
The quoted bit, buffs, does find a career for, I mean, he was walking through the wave
come on, not to me.
These carries with their damn careers.
It happens a lot.
It really, really does.
It's way too much.
Yes, I mean, I've actually actually five.
Yeah.
Oh, he's always in that little same spot as well as just finds it's always.
It's, well, those both of his walls.
I mean, they're bringing it to his head.
They're going to look to try and turn and get aggressive at liquid scam.
He's in trouble.
Roll four from Botsick.
Scam.
Going down, Mick K. turning up picking up the kill.
It's going to be very happy with that one.
Let's go through here.
And he's just going to be fine.
This could be the beginning of the start of a painful game for the ancient apparition
I don't think you ever want to play versus either of these heroes.
Nature's profit or liking as an AA advocate myself too.
This is a very Saturday.
All these heroes just get on top of you.
Very sad.
That's to be careful with this position.
He can't step.
There's an invisible border that he probably can't line that he can't pass in this top lane.
If he steps up too far, they can do that almost every time.
I'm in line.
He's going to continue to be pretty tough.
for your flash, he's going to decen last hit, but obviously a lot of the noise coming in from
the ship. And now he's hit the level 5, the three levels on the axis, it's going to be
a lot of spam, a lot of damage that's just going to consistently keep the old patch low and
make it difficult for him to approach the wave. And there will be stacks of course too, right?
This is these beast masters, they almost always have stacks either from themselves,
different allies with the Boris and you almost always have to, this is like this beast
master mainup. I'm glad we didn't see it for a couple days because I'm so sick of seeing
in some of these because it's so strong. On some of these pliers, the way they control the
brune and pressure and stack, there's too many things that can do in a lot of situations.
So, I'll tie one. Really high lighting up. So, you'll pause, see what you can get out of the
link, because walking up is difficult. He just kind of has to wait for the way up the push
in to him and then he gets the CS. So, we'll be under the tower here.
I mean, Cusco'd be careful, I wouldn't step up, so we have to break his way out of the
sprout, so at least the volume is the role, but still, Bokesy, making the connection
there with the slope, and the liquor's well on towards me, go, he will survive only just.
What's the 16-wond and elotus to keep him alive now, he's very unhealthy, he has the
back away.
I hope you'll get some stacks, perhaps, to work on.
The kit walks back to the lane now, 100 HP.
So we are seeing liquid, the two supports looking to make them move around the power room,
It doesn't that much of a logic and can't contest.
No, this is going to be an easy haste room for the nation to be able to grab and in the
bowl obviously you can set up for something potentially around the mid lane or quick
TPs for the side but the hastens are the raw.
A lot of options for liquid are already starting to show and they're certainly game.
In terms of that lane pressure, Ace is getting to play a free lane essentially on the
liking even though he's playing versus a gyro who can spam.
It's an A.A. so he's gonna just naturally be able to farm in this matchup.
Let's kill up the Bidas.
All right, I mean, that is just, it should be on a free farm at all.
He's able to sit back and hit those creeps get the timings for those,
whichever build he wants to fully go down.
I think I'm okay with this.
I don't like minus a lot of times, but I think there's like three heroes that I'm okay with,
and I think we've named them now, right?
It's a Slark Brew, and I guess I can connect with the mix,
maybe there's one or two others, but...
And if he does get this online and the other game continues to stay in good hands with
Liquid, there's sort of difference in farm right between Ace and Niko's going to be pretty
huge.
It's not easy for Niko to keep up.
He's not out of Niko's time in lane.
Both him and YoPage are going to have to be playing a bit of a recovery game here in the
early stages with the fact that they didn't have that sort of easy start to the
Lane matchups.
And if it's, you know, like, and we don't get to see him too often anymore, but it is an
Alpha Wolf like it.
And there's not the most stunts, so he can't kind of don't break things.
Strahan wants to now see me that similar.
What the hell did he get the odds off?
But he's dead.
They'll lose boxy for some.
Maybe get two for his 4th chance at the point,
and they will be sure they get the two of them.
Your pass just turns up.
Luminat.
Chances towards ace, but nothing else for him to lock him down.
Make him look at a finish up the job for Tim's and the trees,
the juke of the map.
The transport spot him out.
Walls are coming in as well.
Tim's are also down the coast.
Should be able to run from this.
it's okay. So also to point this out pretty interesting since he's playing
vs. Viper is a bit of an old, I would say he's going to live but he gets
it's caught. I don't care if I can down that 500
neutrals. He'll say that was intentional. It might be, honestly.
I mean, the walls are kind of high. At least they'll have to be very
chance of the walls chasing him down and getting the kill from
ice. I mean, those the wolves are going to be very pesky for these
supports especially. Yeah, I wanted to point out Mick has built because you
don't really see people leveling nature's call anymore, right? I think Mick
He's playing versus Viper, so it makes sense, right?
All the summons, Viper and Hay,
especially the early game.
It's annoying.
Yes, you've got our other talks,
but it still is a box in terms of CSing and Lame.
He's just able to control it.
So this is, yeah, you know something.
As you say, you want to see a lot of things
for the purpose of this.
Do this now though.
No.
But it is an old school anti-Viper thing.
The people used to do from ten plus years ago, et cetera.
Yeah, and I had something changed up from the camera,
with the skill building.
Obviously as well, it's just an office in that extra pressure right when they go for those early tier ones that we know that Liquid's going to be like the group up and go for.
Yeah, he won't be able to move as much frequency right with his teleport being cooldown maybe not as much barrier, but look at this pressure towers.
Could be a nice smoke.
Oh, I've got the missile on to Mekke.
So little vision here.
here.
That comes on the way over and that's if it would drop the cool down on to make a backup
coming in from boxy who kicks me catch over into scam.
I'm a little bit old.
Quicker.
Quicker is going to be able to get the old off.
We're going to go die.
I think they get shrimp in the sun.
But, uh, make a dead.
The question is, can't you now get out of this spot?
They're pretty deep on the criss-off of the map.
Kneeship.
Steep it over.
Your prize is coming too.
I can't even get out.
I'm gonna try and stand his ground here under the nether toxin.
Thank you.
I mean, eight seconds and the cake's gonna be back in again.
It does have teleport ready to the axe.
I'm in Snipes, Nico.
Watchy rolls forward.
Joe Plash turns with the quick combo.
They can burst.
Rebocks.
I think they get back in the game.
Deepens over.
Sprout up to not sue me.
Oh, not around to the axe.
Do it if Nisha can stand range.
He's got something.
He's gonna happen.
The axe has come in again.
Nisha still gets the clean up.
You could definitely see what OG was going for there.
But it just takes a little too long at the end.
And it is again liquid getting the cleanup at the end of it all right.
Make the team be back enough to the respawn.
And Nisha is having a great start once more right.
Turns up getting these kills.
Nobody's threatening the Beastmaster.
And the other thing that Kuchi was mentioning at least a little bit on the panel.
When OG did do that five men in terms of what they did to kind of a cover thing.
Last game, you look at the lane positioning too.
Yes, they get some kills.
But you watch Nisha.
Ace was just free farming the whole time.
He's just getting creeps up top, his Midas is essentially done, so yeah, on top of all that,
you can factor in ace getting all that extra.
We did Sid Mick has build, let me be hurt a little, right, and they didn't get the kill on
the jarrel, but you're seeing the lack of some of the damage on the sprout and some of those
situations.
But Liquid reacting well, bringing the squad to respond, but not overreacting, as we mentioned.
Nice.
So there's a line.
one of the, this sort of the fears from the lineup of Liquid Drive that they do essentially
have three cores that can become three carriers. Where it is. OG's lineup, it is one of those
ones, especially considering that it's a bit of a slow start and deep in the time, the buy
for where it's going to be a sort of full protect one ride. They're looking a lot towards
Natsumi to be able to do the hard carrying this game on his gyro. 100% gyro is one of the
better for protect one here as I will say, but he is safe to some pretty debilitating heroes.
when you are playing for particular tofu.
Since we're getting the prop on it,
they should be able to give it.
Also, they need one A for OG.
They get the kill.
They might just be able to turn this into a tail one as well.
What if the case will come out?
It's the tiny advisor really do start to fall behind too much.
I have a big worries because there's the roar.
There's how there's damage reduction.
There's a lot of different things that this gyro can run into in terms of problems.
But I do want to say that you're pretty active.
I want to say Yopas, not to say just like
Move around constantly. That's the problem with this tiny mid. We don't see it too frequently. I think just Jared Jr is playing it. So
See what your cards can do in terms of setting tempo early and slowing down liquid
Top 10 of everyone nearly taken out as well. So Tim one mid taken by liquid. Oh, she get the tier one bottom
Liquid ready to end since the jungle of OG with this smoke
It got the tofu and knee shot
So they can grab
Magnetized, ready.
Yeah, they want some in big and then that.
It's under tier one, but it's tier one is very close to dying.
Looks like there has a tint because it did look like it was setting up for the defense.
I think they saw that clock where getting a position.
Is.
I'm going to try and go from that mask.
I'm going to be possible for tint to get the angle with the hook shot.
With the creep camp, with the walls out.
Can't find a way to start the fight.
There's damn wolves, they're so annoying to play against.
And here come the sacks. Can they get into contest?
Might be too dangerous.
They've got to get over. I think they have a moment as well.
They've got to jump to smoke up on tens.
But they would have to come out quickly and it's not happening.
They're going to get the space for these to clean these stacks up.
That's going to be as agonized done after they finish these off.
Now, fighting into the agonist beast master, it's going to be difficult, you know, a lot
of eyes on scam right to hit these key eyesplosss to allow them to kill the targets.
In the early game, has to just eyesplast, Nisha, I feel like that just has to be prime target number one.
Ace, he's going to kind of run ramping in the fight.
He's going to be difficult to deal with because the lack of control, but they're going to have to pick and choose what they can take in terms of early fights.
Because right now, they're content with getting that farm to that one timing.
That's how liquid likes to play.
They get that one big item timing at least a rally around.
And then usually push the envelope.
And as you said, the accident is done for the beast.
So let's see how old you've reacted to it.
And let's see how perfect Scandinavia is to react.
It's a hard game for the AA as we were mentioning.
That really is.
That really is.
I mean, if a couple of one of those ones went full
to point where you've got a boss in scams to sit in the fountain
and just throw the ice-ploss out,
we've seen it before.
Yep.
It can be a play. That's for sure.
How to earn it up?
That's usually 35.
Pretty low down the list on plans and back up.
Yes.
Okay. So, Timings.
Look at starting to gather at least
or top at the seam.
OG not prepared at the moment to defend.
That's who he is in the area, though.
So, he's calling for the defense.
Are he serious healthy enough?
The Niko is not at the moment. He's backing up to heal.
Okay. The supports are here now.
out on his town's going to go down pretty quickly as soon as liquid get in and boxy is
going to start off the move.
The group set up one of those now semi-potsy rolls forward.
It's going to be now semi-gone.
OG to feel get-botsy in return.
Now turn now everyone's meastriers are pretty good iceplars.
Go for connection.
Very good in the last.
So basically not for double kill.
Okay, it's going off for the TPL after you get some double kill in self and he'll make
it out.
Back to the safety of the bounds and so to for two.
He's sent a hit back there for emoji, again off the back of skim, getting that all
important ice blast out onto these targets, such as Nisha.
There's still lose the tower, but at least get in the trade their emoji.
And at least get something.
I tame as the great traveler, at least getting the double, double cogs, right?
He trapped the two of them.
Nice attempt of the link from tofu to pole, Nisha out, but not quite the time the blasted
hit.
Now to me does die though.
And as we said, this is a four-protect one.
So the idea, of course, for OG, is always hit not dying, since yeah, they get some
pulled on the other heroes but in terms of scaling, I'm sure, how much it holds.
Okay, they do have a really nice word that they placed before they went through the portal to defend top.
So they do have some good information of where the nature's profit's farming.
They could do some kind of clever place to hunt, make a, with just even supports.
I think that's a good one to do though.
But I think this is definitely a game at this point where
Tim's and Scam, if they make good moves as a duo,
it's sort of successfully hunt down those targets before, you know, liquid kind of...
This is the problem I want you to get for 20-minute group of...
Probably a...
The time wolves. Here comes the blast though, they're making that move.
On it, the hook shop. Tim's?
Why is the other pudding?
The blast comes in, Mick Kay's gone.
But you know, I said, go get Tim's and Scam.
They really could make some magic happen.
And this part of the game and you know,
scam keep it is cool.
Even when these walls are trying to bite in my paw.
Literally biting at his heels while he sat
be able to across the map.
Tins, I mean, these are really nice moves from
Tim's in terms of his back.
Like, actually all of the kills pretty much
are because Tim's has been there to get the set up.
So really nice he dug.
He is being stalked now.
I'm just going to try and turn on supports in block C.
Throws over as well.
This time, Tim's going to be found and killed up.
And maybe Ace now changes his priority of who he follows with Wolves.
I think if he follows the clockwork, it's just way better.
Yeah, maybe he can kill the AN some situations,
but the clockwork's still on making the plays.
So we just saw there if he sits in on the clock,
it's actually hard for Tim to sneak around the map, I mean.
See, the warts also liquid.
That's painful for not assuming.
Goes into his triangle and both blocked the camps.
So this gyrocopter has limited space as to farm.
That is, yeah, that is pretty nasty, those.
That's there, got close.
They got to get rid of that A7.
They need as much available on the map for this jar as possible, OG.
Oh, in terms of going to show it, is you warning it?
So, now Liquid knows that Tim isn't wherever they make the move top,
since he just showed you warning.
Some of them, if they find someone.
Looks like, you know, OG's plan pretty careful.
Pretty much four of them back five of the Tier 2's.
It's going to be an ampulet by damage range up in Phoenicia and he doesn't blink, so he can get and commit pretty quickly in terms of following up with boxy.
Smoke up from Skim.
I will.
Was right out top of him.
So they do see they are completely aware of this smoke movement.
Very hard to get the jump on that quick.
And yeah, your punch does have blink, so this was an ideal timing for you to find a pick off with those damn wolves.
Nice micro from Ace.
Continue with the smoke, but that's just not going to result in much right now.
No, I think at some point they're going to be like, okay, I won't saw us, right?
You're just looking for a pickoff of someone steps up too far.
So looks like they will be with the back away.
A lot of these games, sometimes do end up being, you can have to buy some type of gem or something
to just be able to make these smoke movements if you lose control them back too early.
early. Scam is actually going dominate her. So this is interesting. Okay. I know
she was supposed to play here. Take a wolf. Well, it's killing me. I don't know.
Alright, is that yeah? Well, I think that's four in the fight. I don't know. Yeah,
seven odd. Because there's no glimmer or there's no forest. There's no
lotus that he's going to be building toward at least early game and it's a
pretty value game from all of those items. So we'll see if that pays off for
scam.
We'll see if it is big. Or the exact honor, I think it would be awesome.
Yeah, because I do feel like horses and glimmers. They can't be pretty good.
Yeah, they think with loaders when you're playing versus these messers. Of course,
that's much more expensive. So, see, maybe this helps him farm to get to that point also.
Maybe that's what he's thinking of.
Each I'll see.
Nico, they're looking to play rally around this fight
because he is very tanky.
Scott is bearing halfway toward that agonms.
Their three quarters toward the agonms.
They're setting up for the tournament.
It looks like they should have this.
I know about it for all of you.
So, you just said a little bit of breathing room
really against liquid.
Now liquid, not looking to kind of get as aggressive
as they have been in some of the other games.
20 minutes in, sure they still might say in the lead,
But not pushing for the Tier 2's, no?
First about going for the Tolmancer.
Probably because of some opportunities here.
Probably because of the Midas and all that on the Lichen,
usually when they have Ace, it's an aura, right?
It's someone that they can rally around.
This is ace playing his own game of farming.
So perhaps that's why they're
contained with hitting more creeps,
waiting for BKB timing.
So give some breathing room, like you said,
to OG to get that next timing.
And it did go to Tim's, right?
So we were in a mention how he was pretty
Back for at least for pretty much all the kills that OG has been able to get, Jetpack is really good, really really strong now.
Okay, let's go on this again. Let's go.
For the portions of this game, I'd like to have been avoiding OGOG, I'd do a good job
as well, making sure the liquid don't find anything with their own smokes.
Ensuring that that's sumi continues to progress pretty nicely, keeping help for the most part
with the farm on Mickage next to profit.
Liquid's farming for though.
The only reason I was saying is because the storm was there.
You know, so that's the kind of the ship.
So the good I would say they're out farming pretty consistently right now.
Even though the numbers look like it stayed the same,
it's because that storm at the gold for the entire side.
The mightest is a kick, the mightest is kicking it.
He's got the BKB done.
They have a second one, also a niche in the second.
All right.
That's my kind of support build on skin.
He's going to hide his hideous.
Get rid of the kill both wall.
I could dumb one mightest the other.
That's...
Do you honestly my way would have been the refresh of my distraught,
but I could appreciate the hell mightest it.
Uh, not comes in, Tim.
Can we have to get the catch on so far?
Oh, do you ready to bring us a little bit more action?
Look at the pick off.
They're coming off.
They're hitting a roach.
It's really surprising that Liquid hasn't tried to force it.
They are players' classes out of the eye and A8 nice.
They slow down a lot.
Oh, it's just hitting it.
That is it.
It's really not the same fast game play that was seen from Liquid in a lot of the other
wins that they've had so far on the main stage.
Yeah, OG's getting to get some stuff done with that in mind.
Nice.
The fight or sneak is a warp inside.
I mean, it's falling quickly though.
I'm just going to have it.
It's going to be just the Roachan.
And now that he's fast back over to what he says, look at the BKP off as well as the
The shapeships are manages to get out of there, but O.G. they're getting the chance to get these objectives.
In 23 minutes in, the Cup of Yagers now, I'm not sure me.
Pretty close to, no, starting to work towards that satanic on top of the axe, the crystalist.
Is Abonado's big time? This is, you know, actually from O.G., I mean, definitely much more potential right here in this game three as we saw.
You know, missing from the main game one and then in game two.
Oh, I don't know. I think I couldn't be sold on this arm later a little.
I'm watching him keep the floor to the wall. He's a scouting. It's the if it won't be strong.
They are. It's kind of cool. Anything can work, right? So, we'll see if it doesn't
are working for him because it is odd. But, kind of.
We needed a decent good stuff from Tim's and STEM.
They've made those kind of good early support combo players to get some pretty good pickoffs that
Maybe we're the beginning of slowing down liquid from feeling that they could continue to just run at OG with the lead that they had and do still have and then now with this sort of change up in itemization
Could be some of the smart stuff we've seen it. So let's see where he goes with this and so I'm pretty sure he will commit for the miders to go for the complete is he's just anti-alphobiles strap.
He got a plan, it's him. He's got a plan.
And he's got his own little creep to farm, maybe send and follow around.
I mean whatever.
I'm down.
I'm down.
Sometimes the fight is you can you get your support and be like,
how don't you force a glimmer, but you know what?
Scam?
If you've got a question?
Yeah.
They've got a trust gun.
And if they don't, he's got a mute button.
So you know, he gets.
He can get into the solo zone and just focus.
Ignore the teammates.
Get ready to purely carry this game solo.
with the helmet light up.
He's getting info.
He knows that they placed this ward and it's a fresh one.
So actually getting a flank.
Look at this positioning from OG.
I look at this wrap round.
That's zooming.
I don't know.
You have to mark with the cooldown.
Look at the whole shot.
That's a nice one.
Catch his tofu.
But does mean that Nisha, how do you get spailed out there?
A little bit.
Why tofu dying?
Space there for him to blink out.
Nice for that.
Tofu instantly forced Nisha.
He's like, I'm throwing my life away for you.
for you, doesn't want him to get tied to that ice blast.
Oh, do you find him?
Some of them.
I guess the question is just sort of how, how calm do you think liquid feels?
Are they very much feeling that, you know, OG they can have these objectives?
They can take a deal.
One, they can get a kill on a support here or there.
It doesn't matter because they have these three cores that are ready to sort of just
outscale the solo carry core of the jar on the other side.
you know how how relaxed you think liquid fell right now and all they feeling that he
a little bit. It's a good question to be honest because I do feel like they are
content but I do feel like all these also content so it is a good question because they
are getting this triple scale corning they're gonna have ways to lock down that
sumi it's just gyro can be one of those heroes that can one be five so very interesting.
I'm quite getting the connection over the hookshot was close one there from 10s.
He just for 90 seconds.
No, go to your hand.
One is very good strength around him with this timing so he can continue to play around
this gyro.
Probably gonna avoid for the next minute.
Okay, I'm shocked though.
That liquid didn't, like right,
they just, when the tormentor happened,
they'd get using what you see as a tormentor, right?
Right, for the roast, they didn't do that.
So it's just been a lot, it's been pretty common
for how long actually, 10 minutes at least
from the side of liquid, just getting pretty.
It's a bit of a different, different approach for them.
And I do think, you know, as you say,
I think it is because they do feel like,
with just our farming middle on the old three of our calls.
I think so.
I think everything's going to be alright.
But yeah, I think that's the upside of that OG.
I think they know the trust in that swimming.
They feel like it's fine.
We don't need three carries.
You know, we can do it with just the one.
The silver plays out.
See if they buff him up enough.
I see scammer.
Our tins is the one that's buying all the things
that I was mentioning for the gyro.
Right. He's going to modus.
He's going to solder.
And scams.
Dominator is giving it off a wolf.
He's a pop-off, not the gyro-capper, it's a kind of cool.
Looking to fully enable him as much as possible here.
Even buying a secondary lotus, even Nico is cute when up, which I like.
As lotus is very valuable when you're playing versus the Master, Magnetize.
Yeah, not all these different things.
And especially when the game is going as it is right for Nico and Gopash,
Nico and Patechia has to...
He's got a body sort of sacrificial items, right?
All the matters he's not assuming, as well as he lives,
If everyone else dies as long as not to me living kills everyone off. You're happy if you're O.G.
That's all the matters. That's what their date. That's what their draft is designed to do with this tiny pick as well.
Right. It's just about all of that. It's to me.
Let's see if I can play and work because I don't. Yeah, like what's not reacting.
Rick would say, okay, we're just gonna scale. We're just gonna be bigger than you.
Have these three quarters versus the single. She was soon to be done for Beast.
That's gonna be a big pick up because they're not actually okay. Your prize is curing up.
So he's actually going to maybe have the same timing.
It's worth nothing, it's doing the same thing.
I was going to be scary timing from a slow coming up right here.
He's going to have to nullify everything that's done for the next fight.
So you can just get in with the shapeshift, EKB, nullify a focus of target down.
It has been quite a from liquid when it comes to their decision to look for fights.
But you can't out but build it.
When the fights do kick off you know, not so he might be able to live.
But everybody else on OGM might die pretty quickly fought.
Especially the supports, they'll find boxy though. You'll post five and one finding these pickups
They did buy that gem sometime ago. I actually forgot to point it out when they did pick it up, but it does help always versus these wolves
Must have been on scam. He's out to buy some sentries. It's slowing down his mind just so things are unacceptable
Scams got to tell the other guys to pick the scent
You know, you don't want to be blind, said, you're going to get that mightus.
It cares about the D warning. There's money to be made.
Well, I guess you make money from that.
But you, that mightus timing. He's 600 gold at the moment, interbores that recipe.
He's just the amp up. He's just following the old page of nice more taxiing anything that your page uses to stock up online.
That's his job.
Timings are here again. Oh gee.
He's trying to be honest.
He's trying to be honest.
There is a war for them. I think the Wolfshot smoke.
And this is a call for a liquid now, you know, we're seeing them be very very focused on the farming now their smoke
But it's trying to start something
It's trying to make each restrainer that look it's trying to burn for an obsummy see if they can bring it down
He's getting lost. He's on the block the Satanic though
That's who is gonna start and he'll let off the magnetized doing a lot of damage here to the Squish Jim members of OG though brings 10's down
Okay, Mickey he's in trouble though. Be careful come to an end. That's who me and he could turn around chasing out
out, look at the big kill there, it's taking
Mickae down.
Sure, they lose two on their side of things.
But taking out the carry, keeping that
Sumi alive and not Sumi being the one to kill
Mickae off.
OG there, fine with that.
And that was liquid, soaking up.
And finally, looking to try and use this net
worth a bunch against OG, it doesn't go too
cleanly.
OG there, fine with this, not Sumi.
He comes out and top.
They did lose their gem though, so that's the one
painful thing for the side of OG.
They did lose a support and amid it and they got a carry they did lose to a gem, which is very important in terms of controlling the wolves
But yeah, the cards honestly Tim's I feel like he's absolutely MVP for me in terms of protecting his colors another beautiful one
That's who me is deep right now. He is he wants this tier 2. It's giving time for liquid a comeback into the game
And rules there, and that's who me
What's that so risky tier 2 push the costume is light?
He did not respect the timings. Maybe they could still find something in return
and then towards A's, but the BKB's up.
I'll get pulled back to say to you,
if I'm possible, your patch.
If I'm a trashman, I have a large box,
the ever roll away, liquid that back up to the high ground,
OG, they can't chase on further.
Liquid will get everybody else out of there.
I mean, it could fight around the mid-ups
in terms of what that's gonna be sort of fine,
but he can't die like this, folks.
They need now so many to play flawless.
Dying for that tier, too.
That can't happen in a QR-o-g.
That hurts massively.
Liquid, able to shot OG back down
and could see you to grow this net worth lead with that very painful death on the
car. At the big wonder, they just thought at least another set of like some moment
and sure they lost their gem and all that, but that one, he's pretty alone on an island.
He only has the AA behind him. Maybe he thought he could just get the sustain off with
the satanic afterwards, but they have locked down. They have more than enough stun for
him. Yeah, I think that the world pretty much just come off cool down, so maybe just
timing exercises on that.
A liquid big kill.
True, perhaps.
And now, toolman's up on foot.
Look, survive, and now will be rewarded with the shotgun in his way.
Doesn't have any items to benefit from the shard, but at least can do this licking.
You know, so they get to the big at the buff at least.
And he does, of course, get the crowed buff, that he can always throw into an ally, and
now have to throw himself.
14,000 lead.
Not soon, me.
As his work cut off, or when as you said, if that's feel like help, he can't make
these mistakes even like one more mistake might be too much it might already have been that
just with that one death there and it was a rough mistake and really was
no doubt about it and and then we've seen up to the power of niches were all right and when he has
the refresh when he has to those to go to be straight in for not assuming in these fights
they have to need notice some ready to protect him yet they cannot let not assuming get jumped
and killed off yeah Tim's is getting pretty close to having the notice it feels like they absolutely
needed for an assuming at least it just prevents some of that extra damage just
protect in any type of extra weight they need all the buff ups for an assuming as
possible well good use roggy it stems and he goes modus on my new you're going to
say I I didn't know I'm gonna say the bear might as well
so it's him guess to be happy okay one more creeper no have that I am I could
I could I saw the dom and I was okay with the dom I'm gonna be honest I'm not
okay with the minus.
But if it works, sure whatever, but it could be like some like build up of a
limmer or something for that to me, it's all about that to me.
So, well that's the thing.
Well that's the thing.
Well the thing about 60 minutes is, no, he says it's all about me, he says it's more
protected one.
Why he could have free protect one.
That's the best we can do for you now, so you may scams ready to, you know, say he wants
to deal with those wolves.
He's had it with them.
The wolves broke him in the early game, so he's buying everything they do there, so
those wolves never come from again.
They do absolutely do that.
I mean his work is and he can't show in these fights this we actually maybe get into the point where he has to really hide
Because this beast master just like in the liking in particular eat him alive like him just hard poons once double hits and he's dead
That's the incredibly defensive posture for scammers being very careful
Because his eyes blast is super crucial they need to be able to kill a lot of these targets because not to me
Yes, he has some damage, but they can't really finish off those targets. They need that blast to prevent the heal
late for that to save. Now I start rushing is. I'll liquid kind of content enough
to perform that they're finding to give up another rush. They're finding this
for sure. If they need to, I can't time. Yeah, it's going down quickly. It's
a OG. Like quick. And they interrupt this niches. It first roll straight
down on the wall's tins. A rush has been taken. That's whom he's ever picked up
the ages. Here's the second one ready to go.
The blue gap reflected, ice glasses coming in and out,
green and the shut down on them,
he's just gonna back up out of the fight.
Now, assuming moves in,
over the horse Mick came, Mick had a push himself back,
with the horror came fight, and in the river,
he aches, he's starting to clean up,
gets the doubles, he takes out your patch,
the fight that came out,
effort into Mick, he's keeping it aggressively,
he's brought to you to try and threaten us,
and that's who we'll be able to turn.
Two bucks he off, he's ready to start chasing down Turfler as well.
Put the glimmer here, we're getting back up
the high ground forces well to keep his distance from the gyro.
So they get the A-Jace and of course, you know, not assuming doesn't die even the ones in that fight, so there's still a half to look through the next four minutes to play with it.
But they're losing their upper cores, you know, that the pressure continues to build up on the shoulders without Sony as well if you have the opagine and Nico continue to fall behind.
Look, the first floor is actually split second at the notice, doesn't reflect that one, so great timing there at these from Nisha.
Look at this angle from the A-A. I was actually really impressed with Scarce and Gems position.
You don't even see him on the screen here.
But look at all this.
The ice blast comes from the lower right.
Catches on three or four heroes.
All in all, it makes us a really cool business.
A great problem.
OK, that was my goodness.
Sergeant's watch can't walk around for 20 seconds
with two modest charges available for it.
It was just dressing.
He's used it now.
We're all good.
But yeah, fire around the rush.
They get the ages, but that network lead.
And it's not slowing down against them.
They keep the ages, though.
I think that's pretty important to the next upcoming fight
because they didn't get the butterfly finish.
and still has ages two lives.
That's...
That's for the red direction.
Still, of course, uphill battle versus triple courses,
we're seeing ace kind of being the real carry
for a lot of situations, but I mean,
if they've got three characters, it really is.
I think they're all as formed as not assuming.
They are.
That's a problem.
That's a problem.
They're literally, I pretty much the same net worth.
You know, if somehow OG's able to pull this off
around that assuming,
this is going to be one of the crazy
a carrier performance is missing in a while.
Carrying outcarrying, three carries, you know, liquid three carries as well, they've
been having quite, you know, the performance yesterday series into the day series.
Let's say, cannot see me doing.
It would be so impressive.
The timing with his butterflies huge though, because they do not have a counter versus
at the moment, right?
No.
No one's to buy these.
No true strike.
They have them, you own there, so it's a pseudo run and why don't you go there, some of them
I think this is a timing for Natsumi at least if you're very strong.
Sure.
And a tiny way, probably get a consider if that next time should be the divine right,
clear it up.
I think it has to be full, dry.
Pretty likely.
He doesn't have the liberty of, you know, last night I was watching Watson being able to play a little more aggressively about eating rapier.
He doesn't have this drinking buddy's tusk.
I think that just changes the way the general match-up works a lot of time, just that extra damage.
Liquid, full vision control, avoiding the ages.
Come on, that's semi-cue it up.
We wanna see it, everyone wants to see it.
And he knows, I'm sure he knows, he knows it's gonna be necessary.
And he's done it a lot, not so many of those players that he's done really good with out BKD a lot of times on gyroca.
And this is one of those games where you could be breaking it without a QKB risk keep and sometimes games call for it
Boxing
Boxing
Boxing
It's not gonna be getting out of this box, I heard you
You got a support pick up, sketch
Can they turn it into another kill? We told you in the tree line
Scam is being very sneaky by the way
This probably will not be noticed and that could result in a tossback way.
I'll see you there on the quick view to the top of the deck that out when it comes to that defense from the bottom line.
Someone needs to address top. The wolf is coming in, the trees are coming in, the boars are coming in, it's a zoo up top.
And I'll pressure, here we go.
to
take a counter wolf to be able to stop the push
to the level 25 trains for the triple damage triple HP
and quite the work from
left on the safe.
Yes, sir.
He isn't going to find the role they get to kick back as well.
Tim's in trouble.
He's gone.
Boxing will die in return.
So one for one of the supports.
He's got, he's dead for a while though.
80 seconds the ice blast was thrown.
It whiffs and the fracks is dead, Owen.
The trees are doing it.
I mean, that very strong, as I said, that's that 25 right triple damage triple HP.
You've got to have someone deal with them.
Usually people don't carry.
Don't take that too often either.
Pretty cool, especially when you're seeing from Mickey.
Honestly, I'm a little surprised that he's not taken more honestly.
It feels really good to play with.
Like triple damage.
I think in the past we got nerfed right,
trains just aren't what they were.
I think some of them that haven't made that talent in particular also got nerfed.
But it's strong.
And honestly, teleportation is sort of 20, 20 seconds.
It's pretty good on anyway.
It's kind of good enough.
So I feel like a lot of times, you don't really feel like you're missing too much.
Taking this.
It's not, I mean, there's zero second cooldown on teleportation.
It's not the ironwood, whatever the hell, stupid tracer or something.
They still do a lot.
They add up. It's a lot of them.
And we did see here two sets of summons out there
because they ought to go for their push with the walkers walked through.
Yep.
There's a free racks.
If it was a claim.
I'm seeing some big items being picked up, Ace MTV's done.
Now they can perhaps focus that jarrel.
I'm talking about a jarrel. It's not, it's not going to be the very P.A. yet.
It's not.
I want us to go for the positioning, going for the swift blank.
Spending up for it as well.
It's just about 1,500 gold and you'll be able to get the eagle so I can get the swift link completed on that soon
But we're going to see a raid here is not going to happen yet
25 on Beastmaster
I already have the other. It's okay. So he's actually got that with some money to spare so he's split all you did
Okay, you see that the enemy is buying MKBs and you look up this a sample and swap
So this is common that we've seen people doing the past so now that's far
Yeah, but does have two LMPBs, but it's like MKBs that out of the way
It's still smart though, I love when I see people use chop shop because it's not used enough in my opinion.
It's good news because it means he's...
...they'll go a lot of money that could go to what's our rapier.
That's the real one, seriously.
Three-trade gold on him.
But maybe we'll play with five back in mind.
Might be the more valuable choice now at this stage where a liquid could be close to approaching the high ground again, emoji.
I think there's the first time I saw someone keep cobbled up til tier 4, by the way.
the way. Tulfill kept it the moment speed bump.
The bump up is allies. That's something.
Oh, there we come. Lakewood.
I get our job niches, any five-year-old.
They managed to get the set-up on towards him.
Someone's going to fend up to me out of bed.
They're pissing away slaps out of the water. He's gone.
Thank you. That's who we are. Definitely.
The Bible's going to come up in Europe.
There's Katoji fight back without their carry.
They're lost in terms of trying to drag back Nico.
in the jump and bring your patchy pull back, but this one look at the try first,
remake that make a slice to the side again, but it'll still fall.
They can bring me kicked out.
So your patch at least, I want to make sure that with that buyback, they get liquids carry in return.
That's insanely expensive, Owen.
You lost your axe as well too, right? That top melee rax died.
As not so many dides, so the split push from the trains were able to finish up the top rax
as they got the kill. Not so many just got double-roar.
meet the focus of everything and the jump just could not drive fast from Nisha and it really is the problem
Yeah, if against the opening roll clean the end on the target it's hard to bail the
gyro out they tried their best right thing where your place tries for sort of a toss to get him away from liquid
But yeah, about the roar and sort of is that this will break now that the ace is ready to come in and with us
Well, it's just so much locked down but even when you know the B K P that he's got cute up next is coming out
That's still gonna have ways to go on him to get that set up.
Yeah, it just has to somehow prepare themselves in a way that never allows for this jar
to be the one jumped by Nisha, but it's incredibly odd to do so at this point.
It's literally 10 seconds of stun. BKB piercing 10 seconds of stun, right?
Four seconds on both floors and then 1.6 or 1.8 whatever the hell it is on a pistol nowadays.
So yeah, it's pretty much 10 seconds that he's completely locked down without being able to do anything.
Very difficult.
Need to get these four staff's loadesses, etc.
I need to reposition them very hard for them to be able to do so.
And also, another thing I could see there too is your boss actually got his uh...
He's still through licked off at the start of the fight.
So lost so much HP right before things started.
That liquid.
They've definitely come into this game for you.
They're playing it much more relaxed, but it's one of those kind of scary relaxed.
So it's sort of what's right.
Because you know, they feel that they know that
But they know that with every moment, this lead is just continuing to grow incredibly
and get you the- they got free carries, the all 32 K net worth there, a 44 minute sin,
all the head now of not assuming it's pretty terrifying fault.
It is, and Ace is getting to play a pretty different style game than what we've seen from him for,
honestly, a long time, right?
We even when he's playing these raisins, right?
So I'm not having these things.
This is probably one of the best games that I've seen him have, and he got to just go
and hit some creeps. Now he's got the plus two wolves. Continue to put this pressure on the lens.
He's like full slider, as well. Pretty much is. This is going to have to be quite the smoke
and a half air from OG. Yeah, smoke coming out. Thanks. We'll be out of fine in the start to move.
But can they turn it into anything else? Roach has already gone. Liquid clean that up.
It's time for us to ask ages for fresh and hot and cheese for them. The buildings had the wolves that do it
Wolves and the trees take the baits
It's the range right on the bottom lane gone
There's so much for OG to deal with right now. It's all outing up against them nuts for me. Spend up for the BKB
So maybe now fault will see right now in the distance for not assuming
It's still can get fully controlled during this BKB.
It's still can just be double-roar into that abyssal.
It will protect him, of course, if he gets it off first, it probably will save his life,
but it has to be super fast reaction from that soon.
And he might not save him.
It still could just die.
Ags now.
I was seeing he was talking around with a few different item ideas on Ace.
So you said the actual carry.
Throw that bifunt, bite onto the Beastmaster as swift blink.
This game's so much, but usually likes to play fast, so it just feels like they kind of clashed in this way, what a liquid it
Just looking cleaner
These wolves getting so much info they have to I mean, they're stuck in the base completely stuck in the base now, and they have to get with these summons
Just been thrown down the lanes
And the coach got his base on done bloodstones on line, but we'll see how much survivor police that gives him in the midst of the team fight
She's doing two he's not letting them even get the last hits on the wolves and then when they're about to kill them
and you've resound into them. So all that time spent in the bipartronic hill wall, wasted,
and you get the gold from it.
Actually, we're bullying.
That feels like liquid.
Very much enjoying.
Got much of this game. Maybe Foxy not so much today. Every now and then, Foxy dies somewhere.
In other than the three cores, they have in a great time in the creeps, becoming incredibly powerful.
You know, six-slotted, seven-slotted.
It's all coming up here for liquid.
Foxy's half that's and I feel like that's just fine, and he's not trying to catch him the movements
That's how he uses BKB, so maybe he's thinking that he could just get out
But maybe his fight kicks off your their fists in it. Oh, then I get spotted, though
Anisha's anisha
Quite a bit jump. I'm a lot of shards and back
I'm OG they might have to try and make a move in as too risky
After he's stuck in the base deal with Chris
Yeah, I was not going to happen but they've got a back off in this point now
We'll see
My knee jump picked up a bon mic, okay
Control the map
So scary for OG because there's always it's so much information to right besides liquid having this tremendous gold there
These cores these carries that continue to get that right click prowess this yeah
at this constant pressure on lanes. It's seeing two heroes. Yes, they have boots
a travel on the Viper to join in, but it could just get stopped as well.
Hour of these pesky little awful ones, even if you've boots a travel, he hits you and
it roots you. So if you're inside the base and you're not careful,
a lot of different ways they can trip them up. Nico is getting close to 25. He's getting very
tanky on the Viper, but there's just so much overwhelming damage on liquid that big and
bypass it.
I'm gonna look to try and make an aggressive move again here, liquid, smoke up your post.
That's the bite on some knee-shop, turn in and then into the wolf.
It's not gonna find anyone up there for now though, OG's staying safe, off in the high ground.
That is a scary wolf.
I'm kneesha might still just blink straight into the base.
Aegis for 50.
It's considering it.
Looks like he doesn't want to go for it, not up until the tier 4 is quite yet.
All three waves are shoved in, probably doesn't feel too forced to do so.
The tower is dropping.
That's mid tower.
I said there's a, you know, that definitely decided to sort of through this game
very slowly and painfully here for OG, you know, liquid, just really making sure that OG
are not having fun in this one unless not to me.
I think he's going to do it by the rip you know, right?
I think I have to be thinking about it.
Come on, that's to me.
We all want to see it.
He's got 5.6k gold in the bank.
Obviously, we'd have to free up the slots a little bit, maybe wait until he's got the
axe blessing recipe.
He's getting quite good.
He might wait for that 10k gold, then he can consume the agonms and have the rapier.
Then potentially have a buy, but maybe he doesn't, I don't know.
I don't think it's approachy does go for it.
The racks is the only, the buildings are dying.
They're trying to make a move, playing around these three classes, but the Viper and AA can't
stop this consistent damage onto the range racks.
This is the melee racks, so the melee racks that we just saw that that was a heal-up
slowly but you have the mid, that range racks is dead.
Here come the wolves.
Oh gee, they're heading out on the map.
Oh no, quite a big odoop shop.
Boxy.
The last few times they've been ever getting him this time,
they won't be quite as lucky in fat boxes
looking to go back in on them.
That comes on the way here.
For liquid, as boxy sets up to the market size,
that's going to put the BKB.
Trionstown is ground against me,
KB, Mickens have a slider way here, but the hurricane fight.
I spotted it.
They've got to pretty much just get back to the high ground.
Get back to the base, just in case they're getting chased down by the liquid.
Looks like they should be able to run.
Oh and this time not even able to get the boxy kill and the melee racks in mid home was did died during that chase
They actually got it down to 800 HP because they were looking to TP and I believe on Nico
Not liquid
I could get close to stepping up towards the high ground if they want to but again if they want to chill out and continue to play this out slowly
The roacham potentially gonna be up in a minute at a half.
I just wait for that one liquid.
They are pretty, I mean they're trapping the mace,
so on paper, it should be a pretty free roast
as long as they have vision to catch them when they step out
with the three heroes.
Oh, shot.
So we're gonna get the jump group with the avalanche.
A-south, look at me, get me straight away.
So I'm just gonna get tossed back.
And it's the fight for start from Nico.
He's beauty.
I mean, it's very fast.
You know what I saw over there?
There's a need to play from Nico.
They will get the jump again.
Don't pass him with a tough sack, don't put his money, skip the hill up.
I mean, take it a lot for them to try and kill him. He's totally yours to bail him out.
He's not.
He's just coming in from the side.
He's looking for an angle potentially, but they get the physmic clearly.
He has to blink out safely.
They need the base in trouble.
Oh, mate, that's a dangerous cliff to use at this point.
I mean, they really didn't want to lose that mid-rack strike.
There was falling for people alone.
And they're just getting macroed.
They're trying to go through these plays, top full cheese.
He still had the greater healing notice as well to still survive.
He seems the song of the disengaged.
They've got close, they're close to the big big.
Not soon, mate.
He's cutin' up.
He's ready to get it out.
I think he's got enough right for the blessing on the rapeier hip.
So he can get his out picked up.
I mean, they're probably after-play versus Megas.
You might just have to accept it.
Like, this rack's two-in-fix-p-e, eventually without this glyph.
If they just look away for a second, it's gonna drop.
They're spamping in.
We're going to not assume it.
Now we have it.
So he's on line.
Problem is the free carries of liquid are very much online as well.
But they are.
Maybe the right P.A.G.R.O.
By giving it the turn around.
This Viper's getting quite a bit of gold, too.
That's just naturally coming into the base.
He's getting pretty close to being full six-lighted also.
Now he's going to be super nice.
If you could pick up that ace.
I mean, we already stole 10's here.
He just picked up the blots.
I guess everything they can is going to make
the potential of this jar or that much more in the team fight except for
for scam because scam is playing his own game right but he has a lotus for the
team but he's got minus dominant attack in hell he killed the creeps he's
all come on early in the creeps I mean that's he bought the lowest he's supporting
he can't report no reports play of it no reports he did I sort of buy
5F you said she says well he's support and who would you guess
What was what is that kind of an expect to build?
I don't really know anyway, I don't know.
They found the timing.
I mean that's who's gonna try to help them out and tell them what's the rate that he takes out.
I was gonna look under was making it.
That's where they kind of do it at here with the rate PR.
That's a double kill.
Buildings, the Midracks did fall, bottom one, still alive.
That's the show of the Rape Year, inviserates them.
Maybe this was the plan along from OG.
About the Rape Year.
Doesn't matter.
You can hit all the creeps you want on the crit.
You can farm as much as you'd like.
But once we have the gyro Rape Year,
we can clean this game or doesn't matter if you're 24k.
I mean, earlier they were even more than that.
I know that lead is getting taken away a little bit.
A little bit, a little bit, little bit, little bit.
Well, as game progresses too, right?
Like these 20K leads once it's at a minute,
a 20K out of 50 minutes.
It's dealable with.
It's absolutely dealable with.
Buildings, like I said, they're probably going to deal with meggas at some point,
but scamming.
Actually, they're actually a bit clear.
Three or four of those summons that come in.
Almost 25 as well.
They've been getting themselves the ages.
Very precise.
That's certainly, and you just in half?
Sure.
So don't want to try and make a go here.
I don't want to find any entrance in towards the fight,
and you'll close up at a hold and back with a glite net.
Load us up as well to save you back away.
Yeah, it's the mega creeps.
I'm just been done to build up the mega creeps.
I'm an all-in-all-how could it's their line-up at dealing with mega creeps?
Hey, pretty decent.
So, Jarron, the Viper can forever kind of do it.
It's just I'm always going to be looking at the glyph. It's still about 80 seconds
So I think they should have time for that glyph to come back up before they tell the play they can come
And we got to get this game could continue for a long time now on
They are rallied around not silly with this rapier given him moon shard as well
Let's go refresh your shot as well. I'm sumping up
So for Liquid, is it wait for ages to go away, keep the map in this kind of state where
they can't really step outside and get that extra farm, they are still farming a lot less,
mega creeps are worth pretty crappy gold, so if Liquid just farms the whole map, I'd
be down to what else they can gain though, only more items can they get.
I totally still have doesn't have agonms, so that would be nice if you can finish that
one up for the team.
3,000 build towards it if you want to see.
He went for the Kia size for us too, so he'll have infinite manner.
I'm actually shocked that he did go for that for us.
Nice to smoke from OG.
Obviously feeling hard on them.
Forgetting the ages.
It's going to be down to sort of Tim's or Yopage to make some crazy initiations with the hookshots with the blinks.
He's seas!
They get the setup!
How long is it at all? So get the BKB off.
Ah, not suit me.
He blinked down the cliff.
Okay, he got tossed out.
It's a good job your approach was ready to bail him out.
That would, uh, that would have been quite an unfortunate end to the game.
Uh, if, uh, if the, uh, the brave P.A. jarre gets caught on the cliff,
on his own sort of choice.
But he, I, I, I actually just started sweating for him.
That's out.
I'm not even kidding.
I was like, oh my god.
What if Nisha just blinks in like goes for the, like goes yellow?
She's a star's dangerous.
Oh, hook shot.
off the mark there from Tim's.
I'm not going to be able to get the catch on so far,
he blinks up.
Mikkei, looking to catch, they're looking to catch
when people are split up,
but it's a travel to Pustella Point.
I think they've got the Niko.
If the roaring on some wall Tim, Niko,
he's got the Natsumi's ready to turn around
and try and fight back.
A look towards Mikkei, Mikkei's in trouble.
I don't see me again,
able to shoot him down.
Missile on Tunisia.
I have him with the four of us, the toast back!
It's gonna be the mid and the carry day!
Nice play!
This infinite, I mean, this ice blast duration,
we said it might get to the point where Scam is literally just sitting and found his own helmet.
It bypasses hits two and three targets.
Last forever on them, too.
Two cores fed, they kill the Viper, but it takes them some time to kill him.
That's him, me.
The plan is bad to cap in.
It's kind of broken up for OG.
If this was the game panel along here, there's just the biggest brain and game plan I've seen when we're about team top to be able to run around a game like this.
What does he liquid opposition around the area? They might be able to jump and catch somebody here.
Scam, you'll pause looking.
Because not assuming what's hit the biker.
There's 50 seconds without an enemy character.
It's like where I put a clip by that might come in, but he's ever seen box of hooks.
If I'm roll off, me get me from Ace.
Which for the season, but I hope you're there, Tim.
Get the angle.
You're gonna be able to stop the escape of Ace, kill off the light gun.
OG they're holding.
Things are falling into place.
They're getting rich.
Might not have been expected, they're fucked.
They're getting pretty rich, the support.
Everyone started to get so much gold, I don't know.
Shit.
Just infinite creeps coming in and fighting these pickoffs.
April is 25, right?
In 25, again, 25.
And, of course, they're the modification.
They're in another base, not assuming.
It's going to be able to take the bottom set of barracks.
And, we'll be able to get out...
...the fourth...
...the ground-ish, uh...
...can have anything to say about it.
I mean, you're in diva, stick around there.
There's might be a bit of risk,
it's just the two of them here, your version, not assuming.
They've got the box two on the Viper.
You can always join in through.
That's true.
And, they do it the vision down around the area, so...
Yeah, I think they've got good info to hang around here.
Let's see what we...
I just about to expire, has to be kept laying around this ward.
Your past shows himself will be okay.
Right in front of me, sure.
I'm gonna get this fucking display right now, I assume.
So we'll see what kind of crazy stuff we get picked up.
So you lip with it, they might get more summons.
Might get some of the books online.
It's a follow God you're right, not to me.
He can eat the fight on me.
My comes coming in, can they fail about they got he's dead?
He's the loyal lost at Sermi.
The young patch will face the sleeping out,
but Nico, he's keeping in so no way out for him.
That's him, God.
Right point, in the hands of Mick Kay.
Right around 60 minutes, they just sent treats.
I think Mick had just sent treats to kind of scout,
and they just get the jump.
OG.
Oh, gee.
I think it doesn't happen up in the back of the right player.
Hey, wait, it's hard.
It does, that he's not gonna buy that.
He hasn't got enough of a buyback in the back of right player.
Oh, no.
Come on in.
So, sue me.
This is the problem.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You won't carry versus three if the one carry dies.
You're out of carries.
I have to point so clean for so long.
He's gonna have to buy back.
It really is.
I can look for the job.
It can't.
You can call him by the ice-ploss.
I just don't fucking out.
We'll get the PKB out from back away.
He's dead though.
He got the right here.
G.
It's there.
I think I'll find Bob.
See as well.
They can get the catch on a wall's knee shot.
Yeah hold it.
They're holding.
Not soon.
They did it.
Oh, that was injured.
The two buybacks.
They're holding.
And the right here.
Back in the rightful hands.
Oh, not soon.
Me.
Oh, they just got it back.
What?
Ice blasts over everybody.
They get the stun cover up.
and he just flacks right on top of them.
Bye, backstuff. That is two.
There is the two big buybacks.
We'll see it here.
Yeah, there's liquids.
I'm going to head to up just a medium with that buyback.
They know they have to go all in on this.
They have to get that rape here back.
They get it back.
The game goes on.
But just the two buybacks now on that painful seven minute or so call down.
I was in the moment.
It's going to go worse because they've got that rape here back on them.
them, but if not, Sumi gets caught out like he did, moments ago just again, the game will be over.
And they can't force the buybacks as the issue. So there's going to be a point where liquid might
bring 10 heroes versus that's right for you. Yeah, so let's see if not Sumi can. He did get
foot fleet footage. So he's fast and he does have a lot more damage to. Oh, what does it do you
know? Oh, and he's switching his build a little. Maybe trying to catch them off guard. He's getting
rid of the pike getting a link in. So having that protection versus, I mean, it's the
the roar and the missiles that he needs to not get stunned by so you can get the attack
off.
And if it's just sort of a window print from maybe the BKBL fee might have a chance to
swami a little longer.
We'll be seeing how sometimes still it doesn't really matter they still kill him.
And if you're strategic and avoid a roar, it could just survive.
You could just survive.
Yeah, there'll be pickups.
I see top of he did pick up the axe too.
What about these neutrals?
GNN Ace and Audacious Stigian.
Audacious is insane as well, too.
We do always have to talk about how much you do.
Heroes are gonna die so fast.
It's crazy.
100 attacks per plus, 80 magic damage.
I'm building this one.
That's the way.
He's gonna go in.
He's gonna get caught by the stun.
That comes coming into help.
I'm out.
He's trying to get it off.
So, for him, look at the broad.
So, what was that, Somy?
But, Nesha's caught by the ice bars.
Nesha's in trouble, Nesha's gone.
He's dead.
He's got the lunch room's bar.
I'm back.
Okay.
very after the moment when not swimming in the front, but it works out.
Everybody lives on OG and niches gone.
They can't get on, they see him, they try to full jump and then intense just puts down
cogs around him and that's like four fights in a row that he's been able to do that.
They can't get the gyro doctor.
Roach 40 seconds.
Might have a window to be able to get that well, niches got alive.
And they're gone.
I was going to be very cool how they start the fight too.
That's who he is just super aggressive.
I love the heat.
It's risky, but why not?
Yeah, I mean, that's the way to sort of bait,
liquid into a situation where as long as you're quick enough
on the backup from OG, you can make them,
make them pay and take it out in each shot.
I mean, they have the chance I need to get back up on the high ground.
Take the mid-set of barracks.
They're going to match the magas.
Let's take off the coffin.
Oh, my goodness, the balance!
Making us go for the look straight to the track,
I'm going to be getting me TP at all.
We'll be alone and just make it.
Looks like they're going for a catch in the meantime, perhaps it seemed that they're split up.
No fire is still here. They don't have Nisho yet.
Okay. He's out of no. They won't survive here himself.
Ficking needs it. He's not doing any damage.
I mean, he's better than getting to attack as well too, but Niko is providing that front line for the team. He has a heart now too.
They can just let Natsumi attack, which he has been able to.
I'm just gonna be the Russian as well.
And let's let we make an incredibly quick move.
Yeah, it's not gonna come quick and I'm just gonna be OGs.
Now, sue me.
Monarch, a buyback for this gonna be an Aegis.
They're all so far, I'm now.
Tim's.
Book of the Dead, I'm not going to say it's giving constant information too.
I guess the question now is, is this an Aegis?
To try and force the high ground go aggressive or is it an ages that you're just holding on to keep you safe
What you don't have to buy back and you don't necessarily go for anything too crazy with it
Oh, geez more about the risk high risk ever word. Yeah, I feel like they're just gonna maybe try to go for this yellow plane
Go for this end because liquor's been pretty passive in a lot of situations and it's been catching them off guard double books
them for now. Stop in this jar over the ages. It's going to be easy.
That's to me. Loads of stuff. Look at the jump and horses don't like it.
You're a pack on a board here at first. Think of the comfort of what's for now.
She was all you done that they were taking the barris. We caught in the sprout.
She's got a guess. That's to me. That's to me. She's getting along with the comfort.
But he's your mob. I need to think that he's got the ages. He doesn't care.
No place dies. But he's immediately on with the buyback T.P.
Oh, he's still working here.
And that's the mega creep stun.
So mega's versus mega's now, Paul.
Mega's versus mega's, but your pies with an unnecessary
buyback, perhaps expecting a chase.
That's a dangerous one to do at these points.
Looks like liquids identifying that they can't just all in.
The gyrocopter and they kind of go for splitter targets.
It looks like Nesha's now roaring the tiny.
And I think they're identifying that your pies is very disruptive.
These avatosses, now that he's got a fresher octane, et cetera.
It's allowing the Sumi to just kill everybody during that avatoss during just the avalanche
And we'll see what we've got to see in that fight as well in a midkade
He was quite close to killing off that jar of the was and this was obviously before he's got the divine rapia
You know, we're definitely seeing the effect of having that that old-age
Old-dation that actually attacks me to magic attack damage to me
Not so me, has to rally toward his teammates two minutes left on the stage.
If I back up rip your suit, that's going to be pretty important purchase, yeah.
This game is so tense now.
All the little ways matter, oh this is.
OG absolutely given us a show in this one holding on as they are.
And doing it in this fashion around that suit means gyrococta.
And in a game where, you know, it definitely felt like Liquid felt pretty comfortable with their three chords just hit in the creeps,
in the creeps getting very fond on all three of them.
Now they're sort of final hurdle of closing up the game,
closing up the series, getting that 30.
It's not happening in thing as sort of cleanly,
as I think Liquid would sort of feeling
this game was going towards, not assuming
and the boys holding on here on O.G.
And I want to give a lot of credit to Tim's.
I really want to say this clockwork performance is super good.
It's just not even like super fancy things.
It's just literally getting a top of his jar
up there in pressing hogs.
It sounds super simple, but it's zoning away at the eastmaster,
it's zoning away the liking from getting in to hit him,
because it puts him in a really cluster dangerous spot.
There's a big AoE light up.
And there's no doubt about it.
The way that scams bill, it's working out.
It's a game where he's an area.
He's only done full-time swallowing.
Yeah, and I think what everyone's very worried that this area is going to feed.
Not, not, not, not.
He's going to feed off the creeps in a groupway.
He's just going to kill everything, farm everything.
He's now massive.
Now, box two, it's going to be dark on.
He's ready to get the altering online as well, Scan.
The approach there's no doubt about it.
It's working out and OG, they absolutely have a chance
to close this game up.
I'm pushing it on towards the game for.
All execution out at this point.
They just make two minutes fixed,
but there's no buyback on your pies
after it's super careful, but you have to fix.
Or more than from Lickon,
these last few moments, it feels like.
Look at it.
I think he's going to surpass his uh, tiny and his Viper.
It's full on base defense.
Yep.
But he's moving forward.
With the figure out, find this, like all its warstins.
More, we'll come through that's tin's out.
So if you're seeing if you get the catch on to anyone else,
but I would see that hot on the roof.
If you may have it, the flick of just in time.
I'll see if you can go for it, get the kick back.
Got a more hip-pack, your flash, he's around it.
I saw the kick back there from Botsie Lousy.
He's gone through so long.
He's going through so long.
Two minutes, he's dead.
No, bye-bye on him.
Can they get disengaged?
Position themselves on high ground.
Looks like they aren't backing up more though, afraid.
No, this time he's been very important in terms of control, under checker and us chasing kickback
there from boxing.
Without the agonists, I just have the foulness if it lends them in sound castings that he
can't go for these boys.
So, we'll look for Dubu with this.
90 seconds no time either.
They're going to know that he doesn't have to buy by me.
That's the rate here picked up by Mick Kay has enough to get that purchase still up the
I'll look through a five-back on top of it.
What are you doing?
It's gonna be a very tense 82 seconds here for OG.
There's that next to it, Pierre.
That was the backup, that was in it.
Oh, she imagine that was probably gonna be one
if it looks towards next, you know,
he's gonna want to have a backup rape here as well.
So you can go for the buyback, pick up the new rape,
your T.P. back into the action.
The octaring done.
Here for STEM.
Liquid's looking to hit.
They know that there's no time to hit.
I have to watch it right now.
It has to be the opportunity to liquid to try and put an end to this game.
OG can they hold 4v5.
Scam it in the end.
In the end, just up front position.
They're going to try and get the jump point in place.
Not a clean jump.
Scam is fine.
But for summons off of the tier 4s,
but not soon he's ready to deal with them very easily with the flag.
That's for summons gone, at least at first initial wave.
Only seconds.
time is ticking. Liquid how much can they get in this lofty seconds before your
patches back in the action. And why get the tier 4 tier 4 is going to be held. He's
back to Krillings and our seconds. Yeah, time comes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's going to be
back. So that was pretty much two minutes in which Liquid weren't able to get
everything much more for. It's just scared. Yeah, too scared to just go for the
Because everybody's a sprouted around this gyrocopter. They couldn't catch them initially
I thought they were going to skim was so far off
Did it quite get the drive on to them now? Time is back
How's the buyback's looking for that Viper and the gyrocopter Viper is 2,000 away gyro does have his
Oh, she said it's a long game on approach in 73 minutes now some replacements for neutrals
They can start going for those if they'd like to I mean, as anyone
Not happy with the new fridger thing who's looking for kind of the switch up the most
I'm checking all them brain alleys
Honestly feeling so pretty happy with theirs maybe boxy could swap out which one it is
And keep the fucking aboundless anyway
Yeah, they're already happy maybe topless watch says
We're going to be like, guys, we've had these mega creeps for so long, we haven't been able to close up the game, we'll kill it off, they're mid, and have two minutes that we still can close up the game.
So, when are they going to be able to close up the game for? Most of the plan from liquid side of things, they have this network lead for no G.
They're ready to keep this game going and going and going.
I don't want to curse anything because every time when we have these like 75-minute games and it's been like that very very close neck and neck
I'm just interproably because I'm someone up off the list, right?
Both sides have great ways to just go for the throne. Obviously liquids with all the summons and with the all the buildings that they have a bit more
Opportunity to do so, but even the gyrocopter can't we could see some weird base race situation
I could end the second one. We're going to be used to hold back the gyro and these shows on the run.
Pots for BKB is going to get bitten and head by ace turns into the bullies.
Get out and say, he's looking to end it. The fortification is there though.
Mick has been frozen in position. It's just back into the fountain.
All right. I mean, it got to be ready for these sort of moves.
Nico back in the action down bottom is getting dealt with slowly but surely by liquid.
You know, he's got a lot of cells to stay in Nico.
Not enough to survive the damage output coming in from liquid.
But she's a dangerous exposed and it is one of those games where you can kind of blink and you might miss the ancient dying
I'm one of the stuff I'm gonna say that's one of those games that it could just happen because they've got these dizzying vessels
They've got the audacious they just bypassed. They do so much damage to these buildings
So let's they have to be ready for this. Yeah, too support by those coming in the tofu and scam and
And they kept the core. They didn't pop the fortification
It did not so they will have that ready for an inch future time slot
But who? Okay.
I'm just trying to think how they want to
split these fights up because now liquid forces things outside.
This is going to happen and someone has to stay back the AA can't do it alone.
But they need the other people on the outside. Yeah, this is.
Hmm.
I've got to go in for this sort of move now.
It's going to be difficult as well.
Spacecours right, yo page gets the chance to get the rapier.
That on top of like having the the eggs.
If you sort of stance the side throws in a tree volley.
It's going to destroy you. If you're trying to stand there and hit the engine.
That is true. This engine is going to die. So there's rapiers, audacious, and this
this road tunnel die like 4 hits, 5 hits. It doesn't look like it, but it will die
so damn fast. They have to be so ready on the side of OG.
Especially even through like back over the texture. Right through back door.
I'm telling you, they'll go on the right side. I've seen this game.
You remember to watch for my T.I. was it? With your Toro?
I think it was, right? The crazy one where they were behind super long and then throw it
almost thrown. There's a crimson guard that ends up perfecting. I think it was in Falcons.
So there's a crimson, so maybe, but it is on a A. So it's not the takeiest here that provides
that extra bonus source. I just the, uh, the secondary rope you picked up from Meket,
after losing that initial one. So he's got that back in his hands and this we saw in
our A-soul subbinger repures, as well. So yeah, repures, he said, across the board now at this point.
Yep, and he keeps it a dash of stage in. Boxing out, getting a bit of a better one.
You know, we're saying you might replace at least the active neutral item.
Keeps the passive and champion has fallen sky.
This is also building damage too. Can't write that off.
Sometimes you can do some pretty tricky plays with this as a nurse spirit as well,
if we position people.
And eventually, we'll have an ex also on Boxing, so I'm more repositioning for him.
This game is, yeah.
This game is truly delivering the best game I've ever had in this tournament.
This is it's you know it definitely one at this point if liquid when they're going to be signed some big size of relief
Yeah, and then if OG win and then like adrenaline's just going to be through the roof going into the game foreign game five if they managed to
Turn around this game that's an entire year the time liquid's kind of had everything they wanted, you know
They got all the farm on all their claws they get to make a creeps early
a OG just an absolute classic OG style.
Some about this brand, some about this new scene as well.
They find these ways to keep these games alive
and absolutely have the chance of getting a winner
if Liquid Slip Up.
Absolutely.
More Necrop Lux instantly dead.
Let's see what their spirit boxy can get people super far here.
We'll show you the kickback on the wall of Necrop.
because they're telling the five-post-drive
we're going to go to watch the ancient same time,
Tim's just a look at that, I've got to push it
about with the cops, ice-ploss,
it's going to get kind of whipped in.
As you get that connection,
what do you think?
What do you think?
There has its hint about making an aggressive move.
It's instantly they start pinging their ancient.
Those are your mentioning, and we might need even,
let's, we might need like a picture picture of the ancient
in this game to be honest with you,
because at any moment, thank you very much.
At any moment, we could just have,
that's why even the summ, yeah,
the summons themselves doing a better damage
to a little at this point.
And we can watch it, you know, watching it region all these little things matter so honestly
Yeah, keep that for me as well to sort of just stare at the danger
Such tense moments both teams
I'm looking forward to see the tree ballie too. I want to see if a tree ball
He can do some crazy stuff because people are constantly
Yeah, he doesn't have data
Is that?
But it's not as much as we would hope, but
Let's see
Boughtsie
They go for another kick.
Ooh, so get it.
Another turn to Wafers, but they are just a protection.
He's going to get chance to get back down to the lower ground,
but the axe here.
He's going to look to survive a little longer
for their turnover, Nisha.
And with the job, Nisha, find me.
Rourth, and Wafers will be next to him as he troubles.
He's gone.
He's going to have to buy back very likely here.
As your pass, he's able to three men of a giant that's three for me.
But we'll still get put to a stop and buy the raw.
Nisha, backing off super long around the beast master.
That's him, he's getting so ugly.
The fight back chasing to through down, that's tofu out, Nisha, caught at the side by your
pages, have a lunch. They'll get the kills there. Again, is having to come off the back
of Nisha and he's by back a big bite back coming out. The ancient, again, taking quite
the battering, but they do get the summons off. Keep the ancient alive.
Honestly, Skems, Crimson has been doing so much work in terms of reducing the
whittle damage, because they may have had to actually pop glyphic, but wasn't for just
these crimson blocks that he's been able to put out there.
Oh, that would have had to be up for sure.
Yeah.
And this is, again, now another super tense moment
because not to me now.
No, buyback, yes, he has another.
Oh, right there.
This is dangerous moment for them.
This game is teetering.
I'm, can they force out this pirate connesia?
Is that a possibility?
No, I was a potential opponent.
I think even if they, even if they try
I think Nisha would just not use it, right?
There's this way.
Oh boy, H.C.1 minutes into this game.
O.G.
They're hanging on for their life,
but my goodness, they're hanging on pretty good.
They're hanging on pretty good, eh?
These networks are hitting levels
that you don't see in games.
60,000 on four heroes.
Like, this is absurd.
Mick is, I literally out of slots now.
He can still get two brainer items.
You can swap in and stuff like that.
But they're returning to run out of backpacks, lots of even.
And we did see it.
OK, so somebody's 30 talents, also.
Thank you very much.
I actually was expecting to take that one sooner.
He does have the howl reduces total damage, too.
Of course, I probably get this fell and whatnot,
but it's got to be hard to notice that in the fight anyway.
But you could notice if people die a little slower.
But the AC is well, to get that overall line for his team
I get the start of the line up off OG.
I'll see the Niko having that AC from quite a while ago.
I'm using Antofu also picked up.
I think that was the latest item,
or the overwhelming blanks.
I'm losing track of which ones are all picking up.
I think it was the Crimson Bud.
That's got a block on, oh, and look at the way I'm in it.
Okay, a lot of go-hats on the last life.
He has 6,000 life.
The boss lasts for 40% longer too.
So if the crimson buff is gonna last for 11 seconds or so,
and it's gonna block a lot, 300 something per hit.
That's significant.
Oh, do you super close to having some of that by that?
Necoe?
Okay.
150 gold elapis.
And no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You're going to go for that of scams, but indeed,
yeah, the fact that in that sum is gone for five minutes
is that they can, uh,
you go.
Liquid can, they punish it.
Can they look for the kill and blow that ready to go
In addition, mates, the jumps, trailer looks, influenced them, but the health is huge and
fun, they're out of turn, because it's strong, it's possible side of the fight, he'll
buy back.
He's in the middle to get back in on this, they're looking at you standing, they're on to
the edge of the fortification comes out, and OG, they kill A-Saw.
Oh, but they can probably just TP in and end it.
This is way too low.
I mean, do you think the damage and next go?
Couldn't it get, could he just TP, BKB, Swiplin can eat it good?
Right, he just BKB, TP, split, Swiplin can, and a couple of hits that's game over, right
Oh, no.
He doesn't have buyback.
So I don't think he wants to risk his teams can hook shot him.
So the next push though, they can just pick like a mini fight outside and then just go.
A ace just completely took out that right at that ancient.
I mean, there's a heads up from that.
So he's well, he's going to pick up the epistle plate because he knows he needs whatever
he can to stop that sort of BKB and hit the ancient wall.
That's the word.
That's it.
And also, I'm like, I'm just going to get the epistles.
Get the epistles out.
Got to stop them from BKBing and hitting the ancient hook shot is not going to be the
You need the massive missiles. I'm thinking even look Yopage. This sounds so cloudy because he's doing a lot of damage
But can he some bugs splat in a crimson for the damage block or somebody who has IRHB because the AAs each people actually
$4,000 never mind. This is actually pretty high. That's actually a pretty effective
I just got you know high enough that he's got the emissary right there extra but a total yeah exactly so that that helps out with that
Absolutely
This is okay. That's
Holy moly. Ace is gonna respond and let's see it a
a liquid might go for a roach first and then go for the all-in because there's no glyph.
So let's see how OG can
this would be insane. If they can double a vessel and then hook shot lock down the targets that are trying to go for it.
Yeah.
But there's a lot of summons too.
There's a lot to block it and it's a lot to go for it.
Yeah, it can get very chaotic right.
When you're trying to hit this abyssal and hook shot in on the key targets when they try to end the game,
not everything will always connect.
Alright, liquid.
All the lives, brush, if it's a beautiful longer one.
Nisha shows they're making the move on him.
They all stood up with a big heavy and rope and that soup was into the damage.
Pets up play.
But the base needs to be the capital end.
And you're gonna get the control in the ice, why's the choose ice?
The pretty much don't move the current thing finished the end,
and it's time to take care!
They've got the damage here, liquid.
They're finally finally finally managed to close this game up.
And with that, of course, get the 3-0 against OG, but my goodness, OG, they might not have
made it today here against Liquid, but they definitely gave us quite the show here in this
game 3.
Another day though, those plays are going to come in for, right?
Yeah.
Just hit the 8th, you've got incredible amounts of damage and no matter what, any amount
of episodes and hook shots and crimson's, you're not going to keep that 8-0 life forever
as much as OG tried.
That was insane honestly what it was it was 40 minutes of them kind of holding you know
I right like liquid they got that big advantage and then it was just holding it holding it
They kind of turned things with this right there and a few of these fights, but
My goodness the the dangerous feeling of that inevitable right that dangerous 60 minutes when they can just bypass
Don't through that back door
Wow, what a game this was an insane I just thought like a 5-game series to be honest with you just because of this last game
Probably liquid looking just a big cleaner in terms of the overall that bit
They really did that game one and game two. I mean, and I
Maybe if this would happen at the start we could have seen the series go somewhere else and and get more of this kind of crazy action between the two of them
But liquid a deserved win of course with those first two games looking fantastic and then this game three
They were very much tested by OG here to the extremes pushing it on to this late late stage
The liquid showing that even in these crazy crazy amounts they can keep their cool and make these moves. I mean liquid
I mean, I wonder what was going for that head to that game.
Paul, do you think they were able to keep it pretty chill all their points where they would be sweating pretty badly?
Probably some sweat for sure.
I mean, you know, I'm making these calls that you're like, hey guys, let's poke their brothers.
Oh my god, that suit me, please send your face and just eat literally kills Mickey instantly.
So, I in this game was nuts, right?
I think you can see on the face that the player's really enjoyed it.
Liquid's incredibly happy about that win.
And you said they were priced sweating for some moments.
OG, they don't look like the feed it.
I'll be honest when I saw them on camera.
Yeah, they'll go down them to be able to look pretty damn good during this group stages
Share they falter here, but a pretty upwards trajectory. I think OG's they're improving for sure
They were there really are really are there there. Yeah, that the game won the game so they they struggled
But this game three, you know, we definitely saw quite a lot of the magic that had allowed them to really impress and
Previous series in the group stage it up until this point, but here today
a zero three a rough rough off look here for for a for a for a
G, but they'll be able to pick themselves up and come back from this
going to be no doubt about it. Liquid 3 zero here today today
water game three what a crazy crazy game three liquid moving on to
the grand finals. Yes, the grand finals indeed on here with
boxy and make a first of all that's congratulations that is a
heck of a way to get into a grand final. How do you stay calm in a
situation like that.
You don't, but I was kind of playing PvE the whole game.
So it was quite peaceful from the compared to the rest of my team.
Fair enough, Boxy.
What was it like?
You obviously a lot of the initiation came down to you.
How do you stay focused in that kind of situation where any mistake that's it?
I don't know.
I feel like I just kept dying the whole game.
And I told my team like, guys, I'm like the savior.
I want you guys to go in front.
But at that point, I'm trying to take map control and I keep is getting ganked.
in the same spot, and I'm like, I don't know, are we winning this game or like maybe I'm maybe I'm missing
you know, I don't know.
Well, I'll tell you something happened in that series.
I don't know if you guys are aware of it.
You hit as a duo, you 1000th win in ProDota.
So congratulations to you guys for that and incredible achievement.
What's it like playing with this guy?
I'll ask him the same question.
It's amazing.
Obviously, sometimes it works a bit crazy.
But I would have long enough to endure it in all the ways that he can be.
Like, and it's just normal days for Bocsey.
And I wish for another thousand games, I guess. Fantastic.
And Bocsey, same question.
I mean, Mickey can be a little whiny shit kid.
But I know at the end of the day, we always have a childless backs.
And we always trust in each other to do the right thing.
And I think we played against each other since I was like 15, 12 years ago,
and then maybe seven or eight years, so I don't know how long we played with each other.
So at this point, it's like, you kind of know everyone, like how the other guy feels.
You know each other inside and out.
Well, you're into the final up against Yandex, Oh Navi, that's the next game up.
Who are you expecting to face and which would you prefer to face?
Probably Yandex, because they always have a number.
So I would like to have our revenge, but I think now we will win just because of a standing situation.
What am I going to do next?
Fair enough, and Boxy is the same question to you.
I don't know, I think Yandex played very different from other teams to like the like split push,
right and play long games.
You say split push, right and play long games.
You did watch that game, Boxy.
Yeah, but we had like the split push draft.
No, I mean, so that's the, I think that's a different place though, which is fun to play against.
No way, I don't really know exactly how they play.
I feel like they always have some crazy COI strut with like partner carians.
So that can be fun too, I guess.
Okay, fair enough.
What we look forward to hopefully seeing that.
Thank you guys so much for that fantastic game.
Congratulations on 1000 wins in this as a duo.
And a crowd here loved watching that.
Over to you guys.
Yeah, I feel like everyone enjoyed that, no, just here on the panel and in the studio, but
of course everyone else watching at home, I don't even know how this game ofventuated to
that point because if you rewind, I want to say like 40 minutes ago, everyone's packed
it up, alright, liquid, easy game, easy 3-0, guess what, G wasn't ready, but they did
not go down that of 5.
They did not, massive props to both teams.
I think it's an incredible spirit and incredible recovery from OG to be able to pull a game
that was lost.
series you're down zero to back from the point of oblivion to actually like if they were
millimetres from winning there at the end of the game that is an amazing feat and so even
other out that is a matte honestly very impressed yeah yeah like I was kind of coming
about like minute 25 even but you know they're like I'll even ever out how it's yeah like I
was hoping that we could have seen this maybe like even game one or game two I mean you saw
it there like your punch was getting solo killed mid by a beast master level one but then
they feel like they just kind of disrupted all off and then put everything together like what's
It's the plan to win this game because they turned this game from like a 20 like 30 minute
potential loss into like what 80 minutes.
It's kind of crazy.
I mean that's the benefit of having the gyrocopter and the anatomy gyrocopter, right?
Against the zoo, this is the hero you want to try and strike the game out and not so during
that game he tweeted about, this time it was lined up, that liquid had with the nature
profit of the beast master and the light and the last time we saw these three heroes together
was back in 2019 when OG drafted it himself in a European qualifier.
It's been some time since we've seen the full zoo turn up in a game, but you can see how talk that is because they play PVE
They split for you and OG there's kind of pulling in on the entire time, but this is such a beautiful game
Like the little optimization choices trying to like find the pick-offs to them
But pay for the buybacks holding the glitch not holding the glitch like this is just everything you'd ask for in a third game
If you
Maybe a little I don't know any back to you. I
I just don't wait until we get to the point that the replays here in the highlights of the end of the series.
Something that the Quinn is said multiple times, you know, on panel or not, is that when it comes to mega series?
Oh, I want to see the engine.
Yeah.
I just want to read a little bit more for a second.
Like the hook shot, the stun, the vice-ploss.
There's a drip of damage like, if it's got a real hole.
If it's like a long tree wants something, like anything just hits a little bit quicker.
A little bit quicker.
We could easily be talking about O.G. winning this.
But that's what I think we'll replay it again, and then you go,
that's the choice, but again, it's like, it's so hyped that it doesn't matter.
It's just, you play in the moment. There's no analysis to be had, so.
I mean, we could talk about it because because like I was saying,
it's quintessent multiple times that when you're up against MegaCreech,
and you glyph once, that's it, normally it's over.
There isn't anything else to be able to do here,
but there is a change up in items and the way that the positioning of O.G.
here is already for this.
Yeah, they honestly, it was a super cool adjustment.
They thought at least one of this old,
they bought a bachelor on Jara Collector
because the only gameplay is to just push your waves out
so you have back door.
And you need to stand next to your throne
for the next seven minutes and to wait there
with your bistles, like looking around in corners,
waiting to stun people.
I think to the honest, they should have sold more items.
I think you can even do stuff like you can sell all your items
if I were fresher on A to double the best of the time.
You can sell items on tiny,
like tiny, they don't have an abyssal.
You can bash them with your trees.
Like you can buy a bistle and then throw trees,
I like and blink over the side, throw trees in.
Like there's a lot of random things
you can do to stun them because at that point,
the game is literally we're gonna stand here for seven minutes
and wait to stun you when you try to force the phone.
I saw I pretty sure there were some,
obviously it's a very like hectic situation
but there's some sun stacking.
Or maybe you can plant like 25 branches
so that the tiny can be closer.
So they hit the cliff on the side.
Whatever small things, I mean, obviously it didn't really
work about, I will say we have to like commend them
as we are on that.
You know, I think they were doing too drag it out to like 85 minutes, buying these items to do this because yeah after seeing them in the first two games
I honestly didn't really expect it
No, but like even again like the fact that you talk about hugging your ancient like to go on to the map to find the beast
Master to get that kill to then go back like you could then at the bait like should you kill the beast should you hug an ancient like this
All these little things so I kind of
So commendable again
I'm just so sad that it had to be the game three that OG stepped up and had this type of game right
Like if this was in game one of game two, this would have been a completely full series.
Like, easy, like a five game series.
So again, OG, they did show development from game one to in three, but unfortunately
the game one two was so one sided that that is just, you know, the conclusion of what could
have been an epic series.
Now, I mean, I think it's a lot of like individual personal lessons.
I think for the people in OG because how that pressure affects you and how it applies to you.
I think it's different a lot from person to person.
And so I think you take this bestified experience and you, you're, you're a flag
and you understand why they'd be play poorly in games one and two, why?
What actually happened psychologically because I think that's what they lost this game on right?
I think they lost the mental game to liquid these first two games. They did not play like himself
And they kind of just got thrashed and they only got it a little bit together in the game for you
So you have to reflect and figure that out and be able to do a better in the future because you cannot win tournaments if you cannot win best fights
And only a little bit of time is needed to reflect before you can give an answer
But we are gonna have a couple words from scam it before you to pause the studio
Yeah, hi there first question I suppose in a series like that it already looked
tough enough. That third game looked exhausting, but told me through the series is a whole from
your guys perspective. For me personally, I think our draft is not good in the series. Yeah.
And yeah, I think that's it. Just a draft problem. Maybe some gameplay on, I think it's game
I think that game maybe we can win if our game plays good, we just miss play the map also.
I'm not there game, I mean that can go either way, a game like that right?
Yeah, I mean in the late game, I think early we played by those all, but we managed to hold it, but yeah.
Fair enough, so you are in Dream League next week, liquid are in your group then as well.
Do you think you've learned a lot about them in this series and how are you going to take that into the series when you play them next week?
I think our team always like learning every time, like every time we play, so I think maybe we can win them already in Dream League.
Fantastic.
Walking around the studio here, I've seen a lot of OG fans that came to the chair for you guys.
Do you have anything you'd like to say to them?
Sorry that we disappoint them, the OG fans, and I hope they just keep supporting us because
we are still new and we are playing our best service.
Absolutely, I'm sure they will, and thanks for the words, Unlucky, given out this time,
we look forward to seeing you next week.
Yeah, there's always that coin flip when you do make it into semi-finals in this sort of format.
That is it too many days off, does it take a little too long to warm up for yourself?
himself and for OG it just was that game three still looks fantastic from them and the
positivity going out team is always learning they are still new you have to give them the
benefit of the dad here and the results are improving they were a team that was
barely making it out of groups then they were a team that was consistently hitting top
six now they're starting to year off in a top four result that's phenomenal yeah I'm
so sad like just because you played us 85 from the game you were so cool so actually
making a comeback and then obviously.
And they have to talk to Perian.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, what are you afraid of?
I feel for him, obviously, you know,
and you're in that position before it's like a very hard-breaking loss.
But like you're saying, they're doing better.
He is also sort of, I think, they never broke the fifth six place.
They did this time.
They're not third-four.
So there's positives.
Ta-da.
Yeah, well, it is Ta-da.
OG, not making it through.
We're continuing on here.
Liquid now in the grand finals.
And there is going to be a whole nother best-five happening
just like this back.
We have some very hot information.
These are official valve facets that they proposed.
These are 100% genuine facets, don't eat.
And these won't get put in the game if you don't approve them.
Just want to do a opinion on them.
We didn't make these up at all, I promise.
This is the first one.
Alright, wait for the world, this is Earthshaker.
Each hero affected by Echo's slam increases Earthshaker's model size
and spell radius by 12% for 20 seconds.
This was one of those fastens that I would like introduce before the ride, but then we would never see this year
I mean late game with the refresh rate seems nice, so it's not like you're gonna have like so little echoes now
Spirginy to the first I've taken slanty both for it to
Pretty apply, I feel like I will go up the spell register before at first I just now I like this one
I support this one some guy just think oh, I will do this despite it. Oh, he's interesting
but they're not as big.
Almost nice.
This is like a facet that was maybe kick him
and came out in the beginning.
Well, they were like, it just experimented in your mouth.
And they were like, they're not the biggest, they're like,
they're like, they're like, they're not the biggest.
I think it's a good thing about a competitive.
Because I can never hear it like more than two men have to go back.
But we like it when the hero is getting bigger.
We think that's fun.
Okay.
Trade offer, this hoodwack, hoodwack
would make throw items up to 900 range.
Dealing damage, it was 150% of their cost.
What does it mean throw items?
Like, she throws it like a boomer.
It's probably fine.
Honestly, you think it's fine?
Yeah.
So if I throw a rate here into 150% of the cost of a rate here,
it's damaged.
You think that's fine?
Because of the number being so high,
this one is clearly broken.
OK.
This I could just walk in the lane with my boots
and just want to other guy.
OK, that's it.
You know, I did nothing.
I wasn't thinking about the cost of a rate in the damage.
My nerd brain thinks about these,
like you put a lane in the ward
and you just cancel solves it to iron ranges.
It's such a dream.
Like you imagine that you're like,
how could you?
Yeah, you're like four games, like 500,
one of his books, not both buying games.
Like, just writing for right.
I like the idea that you kind of like,
mix your money to get something here.
Like, a little section there, I like that.
Yeah.
Okay, what about this one?
Blood price.
Popska games, six permanent strength for every death.
And he loses half of that,
and it's when he gets a kill.
Actually, a very weak price,
because you're a little bit of lose the most broken facet
that has to be done.
I mean, it's just nice, it's fine.
Like, why is starting?
I just go die.
This is like some support so we said one day to play style, I don't know.
Like, as much as it can, like, six times.
And then, like, I'm not kidding, can you want it for 30 minutes?
Full jango mode, like, if you think seriously.
And then, like, okay, I will finish game.
Let's actually get strength when he dies?
No.
So you've probably seen 10 times from purpose?
Yeah.
Then I'll never say that when you have 200 vision and 2K lives.
Losing things on like a linear spot to be gaming,
it's like some of the concepts that works well in the world.
It's like they're almost $50.
I want to go to the more broken, if you go.
Oh look at this broken fathom mirror image. Terrible solutions deal no damage
But they replicate spells and item effects at 60% of their power. The derby strength like pushing waves with a lotion is going to be good
Can you broken?
We've got that on it. Sounds kind of interesting
But they can the fight on come on come for shins
It's almost as a like no balls for peace
I like this
No no no
Yeah this door is on
It's hard to kind of tell what this would look like
They would make you fix the illusion of vision range.
Star, you can't really sculpt my face.
So basically, you gotta have like a useful spot.
It's not consistent enough to be like, you deal damage a lot of time for creeps,
and it's like always for systems, but you know.
And they're looking at me spells and items.
Obviously, it would like ruin the hero.
Yeah. Who do you think you should replace Star,
to be impossible to balance?
Do you like terror blade?
I think it's fine to ruin terror.
I've got a plan there.
So it's our partner.
It's a great idea.
What about this king of kings?
Games, the passives of all dead heroes globally.
Well, at 50% effectiveness.
It's sauce-tank, since sauce-tank.
Who will be? I don't think it would be very good.
See, I actually think this isn't broken.
I think this is just bad.
It is very niche.
No, I don't like this one. Not a fan.
I need to chew them, right?
Yeah, I have a point.
I'm sure at the time, there was this super strong.
But in the early game, people are dead.
For like 10 seconds.
I'll show the stop knife in this hero,
because I haven't touched him forever.
and it's all my favorite heroes, so I'm afraid.
I mean, all that heroes, so we could do something like
your teammates dying and then you get the best of us.
But take it if there was a lot of person.
Yes, it's like so high.
Actually, I was being like, yeah, I want to do this for that.
But it's only good to be dead.
Anything that makes me look more playable, please do that.
I don't know, I don't think this is all.
This is not the only one.
I like it.
We're in having a lot of fun without plays.
You know, propositioning them some impossible facets
that they're gonna be broken or just straight up,
dokey water on there.
And we're gonna have a little bit of fun to break the tension
because that was a really intense best of five
between liquid and OG.
We wanna reset a bit.
And so, we're gonna play our own little variation
of the classic game before we get into our next best of five.
Production has prepared some just for us here on the panel.
And maybe anyone else in the audience
that wants to play along as well.
So we're gonna new tree and protect one.
That is why my glasses on so I can read them.
Trees slowly spread outward from all trees creating your potting every 30 seconds
I just kind of would love to see what the map would look like
I feel like you can't it like you would want me to see anything
I don't think people even be able to play the game because you'll just keep crashing like a new true
Sporting and de-sporting and spawning and de-sporting like some guys on his laptop in an airport just
I didn't you know come on
Yeah, you're at the top
All-there, but like three months ago, I'll do it or two. I see some guy using this
You know, he's making the post, but I think it's a vision like where are you even going to ward?
I feel like it's insanely broken.
Yeah, I really like this thing.
It's actually like actually gang made or go somewhere else.
You know, when you get shot and...
Well, imagine that your team is running away and then it's like,
BOOP TREASED!
And then he just gets body blocked by your own tree, right?
You could grease your team very, very easily.
Yeah, I say it's good then.
This one's a W, it's a W, it's a W.
Yep, we want it.
It's in the game, no.
You're not in this decision.
Io, shad this soul, old damage dealt to Io,
is split even the amount allied here
has been a 900 radius.
They should do this, but for your tethered target.
If you're tethered to someone, you just immediately split it
evenly.
It kind of sounds like, I don't know, like, this is broken.
Yeah, you're trying to kill the Io, and then he's just hugging,
like, one tight, like a personal back.
And then you have another guy, you have some aura.
You're never killing the Io.
Yeah, this is just broken.
I think any fast, this fasted on any hero is broken.
Like splitting damage is just like,
You're out of four bros by blade mail everyone just dies. That's true. That's actually just they're all just it
This could have helped finance to be fair also. Yeah, that's true the double lining
Yeah, we've got some OP fastest like after seeing the hoodwings kit where you can toss like items
Yeah, I know what's coming. You flick a blade mail. I think yeah, would you say in or out? That's an in that's an in if you're an eye-oplayer
Yeah, Starblog is fine. It's out. Oh
Good thing out. I mean the pencil for rating. Oh, I mean it's a wet-out one. It's what do you want it?
Do you want to queue up for a game and then you're like begging your support to pick this here
I like him. That's like a one week in into like hotfakes out. That's it. Mm-hmm
It's in
This is
Oh
The heroes are averted to their positions
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's super this is my favorite one. So awful, but like didn't ask you Gank we've reused all your Hp's fighting his death and you told for
For your killer
You have to do a statistical feeding. This is going to be the most a statistical death ever like you can all and every I like this one
But that's okay. Oh, yeah, and then your team's dying and then you go
Then you can yeah, there was a nice
Yeah, only with the old club in the blink let's do and jumping in but the animation has to be like everyone like actually rewind
Yeah, all right, this is our last one field surgeon for which
to heal them for 50% of his, that's fantastic.
I'm in.
Is he getting like high at base damage as well?
Like in the patch, is it like plus 20 damage or something?
So he can just start like absolutely hammering his teammate
in landing phase.
Right now, but if it's worked like with Deathward,
all he has some buffs like he said,
I'll be down like, oh, you throw down your own
and just click your allies.
Yeah, okay, maybe it's not that like it's good in lane probably it has to be you
Do my whole I like drag the credit. Yeah. Oh, buddy. No
I like it his current fans that's are kind of cheeks anyway
I think it's a sugary. It's like I'm in cleftest
But we need to buff this one. I think you know this one could go in, but
It's like you can make the right series
It's fun for this week a week. Yeah five minutes of fun into them
Never gonna be using it. That's that's just that's probably enough to be for average
That's also what he's current facetster too.
I think you're a district guard in class.
You're waiting on what you're talking.
I don't know why.
I'm not waiting on what you're talking about.
I'm waiting on his facets.
Okay. Yeah.
His facets are certain.
I'm saying he needs more love.
Just like our next best of five and teams need a little more love.
As we're heading into it, Yandex and Navi.
semi final night, two paths collide.
One built on control.
The other built on survival.
Navi.
The headline acts, straightened to the semis, time on their side, plans already drawn,
and the conquerors of yesterday, team Yendez, arriving with fresh fire, coming in loud.
Group stage split them, Navi took the clean route, early lock, no extra runs.
Yendez had to burn every step, having to battle it out in the dangers of it. One team gets
It's a seat in the finals, the other, a flight home.
It's time to decide who do you believe in?
The army, the young prodigies, or our team yangducks
gonna keep their momentum going.
Time will tell.
Welcome to the playoffs!
Not being the end-back, so we haven't seen
not before a while, a stimulus sort of story from OG earlier, where they hit at that top
one-two spot in the group stage and got to have a little bit of a rest of themselves not
having to play those best of threes to make it to play off here in Malta. And yet, next
well, they played last night, it wasn't super clean, but it also was done in full game, so it's
pretty good if we're talking about momentum there too. But yeah, let's focus up on not
because we haven't longed to chat about them too much in. Well, we're hoping they're able to
achieve after a week off yeah I mean there are a little bit of a wild car to me because we haven't seen them played in so long
And I think they're also a very inconsistent team. I think they have very high highs and extremely low lows
And so for me, I have genuinely no clue what to expect when it comes to their gameplay
I think they could rock up and be like wow these guys are good tenders are liquid they might win the whole tournament or it could be like
Yeah, like no offense to them, but it's like oh I'm worth a toss not so I'm a great free
I'm a big fan of Navi, I really do hope success to them, but when you look at their recent
performance, the qualifiers in January just want really good for them, right? They qualify
to blast and now they're here as exceptional, but when you look at the other qualifiers they've
played in, they lost the teams that don't ever make it to the event. They lost a zero to
nasty and at the moment it's out to form Nick McGartick. So it's like out the three qualifiers,
this is the one they want. This is now the one that they're in top four, so it's very good,
But you have to think to the wide of position of Navi.
I think they are in a good position.
But I am looking to see improvements in the group stage.
I mean, like I agree, both of you,
they are definitely still like one of the,
I would say lack in terms of players, younger, like around,
but I will say that it's absolutely correct.
I think their inconsistencies, like one of these teams,
like biggest hurdle overall, which is why I also think it's important
that they get off to, like, at good start.
If I look at OG, we didn't see them for like a few days,
and suddenly they're not as good as before.
And if you can see here, like Niko, this guy is 17 years old,
also like basically everyone apart from Ziya's is like 20 years or younger.
So obviously these players still have a lot of room to grow,
but there's also still a lot of things to have to still learn.
You know, they haven't played tournaments for like multiple years.
So you need to give them some time.
But the other thing also, that's very important.
I think CY is super super crucial also to this team.
Like coming in with the experience, you know, being like the older player that has,
but it was like the better teams that he had,
because to bring in the experience, I think it's super important for the younger players
that lack a little bit of the sauce and the experience.
Actually, this is the best roster he's ever coached.
We'll see if those who don't know what to do.
I think Nico could be helped more on Midland sometimes, which is something we're working on.
But in general, he takes a lot of responsibility for his own role.
I think he's very mature for his age, in terms of how he handles everything.
He doesn't feel very pressured, sure he might be, but he doesn't feel like it at all.
He's always kind of like calm and he's very confident in his ability to play.
So I'm quite surprised to be honest at how well he enters it.
I hope he will continue to grow and I'm trying to not let him be distracted by everything
else so he can just focus on Doria.
The fact that we had to also play the qualifiers, I think it was really good practice for us.
And we finished up two and the, but it was like with a seven four score with three other
teams.
I mean, we'll take it.
We didn't get an invite, but as the only team that made it to playoffs last place, we didn't get an invite.
So I take the fact that this time we get a little advantage.
But it's been good for us to think it's been giving us a lot of momentum and we're super happy.
I'm honestly already very proud of the guys for doing so well and improving so fast.
I wasn't expecting it that fast.
It's a bit of a pleasure to be honest, so I'm already pretty happy here.
That is such a lovely interview from CUI.
that little bit of reality where, yeah, we had to play qualifiers.
Maybe they didn't necessarily go so well, but it gave us a lot.
And yeah, we made it top two in groups that was tied with a number of other teams.
But we're going to take it, we're going to get it because we want to be able to make it to a land.
We want to be able to get that best of five practice in.
And this is the journey that Nave has taken in proving themselves.
Yeah, I think it's, I think it's a really cool role to be a little sort of foster that new talent.
like he had all the experience with us over those years and now he gets to apply all that
to newer players and teach him some concepts and like you know like you said
Nikolee's very young doesn't have a lot of experience, maybe he feels some
pressure in some games and being able to help him like navigate that I think
is really really cool and I'm glad that you know I think that it's a good match and
I'm glad that they get to work on these things and improve together.
I mean, now I've been to the top of the team when I think of the I just team of course
we already mentioned it like sometimes the idea is too creative but I always like
side of the team that wants to come into a tournament and go this is my idea.
I feel like we have had multiple years where it's like teams that don't really want to develop.
It's like we'll do our thing, we'll do it great and you try to come to us, but not
V, they're kind of in this very small club, there's a here as unpicked, we're going to try it out.
It might fail and there might be the reason they lose, but it's like they're still trying.
And at some point, we'll click, because there's a here as name.
I owe.
There's been some like undying mids, there's been like they've tried the IOM in the group stage.
Undying from previous tournaments.
It made it come from Nico to be fair.
He's the, he has the guy talking for sure.
But then when he doesn't over cook, he can also be like a good foundation.
But I am always looking at this guy sometimes that can be the limit and also see why he's
quite an ideas guy.
I'm sure you're couldn't add that potentially, but between these two, the over cooking
kind of curve, but I also love the fact that they do cook.
So yeah, you're going to take your picky battles.
I do think that that is going to be pivotal against Yendex, because when we saw them play
yesterday against Roe, you couldn't really predict either's dropped and for Roe, that's
the stock standard.
But on the side of Yendex is how are you going to
fit this stand in. The fact that they're able to re-comfortable on here is that being picked
up in counterpicks, things that are doing pre-emptive picking as well. You do have to
wonder where is this going to lay for the end-ex.
Yeah, I mean, you know, T-talk about how Niku and Navi are a little bit inconsistent, they're
sort of all of the place. And I think Yandex, I like that they found something reliable for themselves.
You know, sort of settled on, we're picking Malagaston guy, we're letting lots of play the
hyper-carry. I think they have a good structure for their drafts, a good structure for their
game play and I hope they stick to that and keep doing it because I think there are
team that thrives in that situation. They play on their experience of their TIR
winner for position and they just continue to build as a team.
Yeah, but I was happy to see yesterday as I think usually when you get to like the
latest stages of the tournament I think yeah and sometimes struggle especially if
you're junior has had some performances that weren't really good but I think yesterday
I saw him do quite well on his heroes especially he had a very good time
in game. I think he also played fire for like multiple times and it looked a lot more
I would say calm from him because when you're again, you're the newer guy on the block playing in front of crowd
Playing in front of a lot of people and the better teams
Stuff like this can get to you and I think you know winning one of your first games with a stand in making sure everything is good
You feel nice. This is like one of the most important things to me. But I think the fact they are that kind of consistent start a team
Both in like draft and play like you know what you end it will kind of do it helps
It's like mannequin is access that it's 16 3 and 14 like this was not like a stand in who's like following the team
He was leading the charge on this act.
So I am intrigued to know where his hero pool will go.
Will he just copy paste the success of yesterday?
Or on some additional manicures that he might be up to show today.
Yeah, I mean, these are two teams of all,
some of the longer game lengths in the tournament.
And so I think you can pair that to what we expect
from Liquid OG, which is very, very fast gameplay.
I think we could have some more late game sort of barn burner battles
between these two teams compared to the prior series.
Oh, so you think this is like, we should be expecting a lot more
of the 40 plus minute games.
That's where the drop's going to hand in.
Then, yesterday when we saw you in the next get to those minute marks, it was very heavily
favored towards them.
It's not going to fall into that sort of arrow where it's then not as prepared for you
and what do you have in the mark?
I think they're pretty comfortable in that area.
I think, especially this team's younger phase, I think before you see why you joined the
team, they were very much, we don't care about lanes at all.
We're going to survive and just play for like game and scaling like combos.
They're probably like Magnus Fenge, tiny stuff like this.
And I think there's still a lot of that that resides in this team.
they'd had a period where they tried to play faster.
And now I think they're back to, you know,
we're playing late game and I like that for them
because I think it's better suited to them.
I don't think they're the best team at stopping lanes
or snowballing games.
They are sort of that later scaling team got the juice
is a very much a hard carry player.
And so I think this will be an interesting match
of Watson versus got the juice.
It's the later scaling teams.
It's the carry versus carry.
I'm very interested to see this.
We do have got the juice on the screen there
and as you guys might notice,
it doesn't have a headset on.
It's a small audio issue, which is gonna delay us.
that the draft is not yet going to be coming up for us.
But it will be soon, which means we can get to talk
about more of those heroes, because you alluded to them,
T, I kind of forced you to say some of the names,
but are there any other heroes or positions
that Navi could get a bit cooking crazy into?
Ah, what's the one?
I mean, there's one here that I absolutely adore Navi for.
And no team respects it.
And Navi, and that is the grim stroke.
All right, I couldn't.
You already know this coming.
All right, I love your secrets.
I love your secrets, you're in strip before.
You've got so bad.
All right, you look too heroes down to give.
If you want to go for saves, you want to go for the ability you can't, you're leashed.
You know, you're chained to a ready's grim stroke, all the technically do him, but you
know, to his control.
Anyway, moving on.
The point is, it is a great hero, the talent as well on 15 with buffing 25% of all spell damage
is crazy.
Again, if you don't respect the leaning, it can be a problem, but in the game, the reason
why I think Navier's looking better into the late game is they do have support jewels that
feel like they can play all stages.
They are playing a draft that has all stages kind of baked into it before, like when
mentioned at previous events, previous slams, they are so like, like, we're gonna go, we're gonna win that, we're gonna go, we're gonna get crush lanes.
Like they have clearly shifted away from that, like, you see, Grimstroke DK, then you have, like,
unload, shabbyfiend, ember, like, their drops look better, but I just want to see that type of draft,
where you've got the obvious teamfight. They kind of buy, I guess, an XD style of team in that regard,
like, when I see those type of drops with teamfight, then I can see them beating anyone.
I mean, that's also what I love most about teams. I think when every player has, like,
an identity and like the heroes that they like to stick to, you know, we talk about the Grimstroke.
I think they also want to team set play disruptor, like, first of all.
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Obviously, they had to buy that out this time around because they're not first pick, but in
this series, if anyone can play this hero into offline on a support role, it's this guy.
Now, if at least entering this craft, I'll give you the first seven bands from both teams
combined.
did put Navi in at least a new direction that we've seen from in a blast slam.
The only option available with win-ranger if we were to turn talk about you know
same here as a group stage but they are very comfortable hoodwink team.
It is an interesting response to Saturday and I know because I don't think it's your two
heroes interact really that much no and that's always a just an interesting first phase
so look at it when they two teams pick two heroes that don't necessarily do anything to each other
the end-up picked out because they think it's strong and obviously like well we don't really feel like
picking any core, so we're gonna pick wood because they think it's strong.
And then they go into next phase and almost the draft is almost reset.
But I think the Navi has a little bit more to prove now in this draft because they're picking out the phase.
And so they're gonna be the first ones to show a core most likely,
meaning, again, it's on the counter pick. So picking your support on nine like this after seeing a support is often sort of frowned upon, even though it's not the end of the world.
Yeah, I'm not really sure. I look, let's say you want a specific here against SD.
You know, that one of the better cores would be Centaur. It's like kind of your spot where you could pick it.
but now of course you're giving Yandex a double band into it.
You know, maybe there's something Navi has
strength more and like the last couple days.
Maybe they're like we can play it four, we can play it five.
So it gives us like a lot of draft flexibility,
but yeah, I have to fully agree with that.
It's also just size is a two range stereo.
So far in the tournament.
SD, and hood wing.
So it could also just be a matter of, oh wait, SD's gone.
We want PMA3 playing the centoals, the underlords, the Mars,
the kind of the Mealy bodies that utilize the range stereo.
So we're kind of forced to pick it now because it will get banned based on the next phase
No, that's totally fair. I didn't think about that
But like Kenshin said the center does get banned out, so you it's very much a trade-off
And not to mention on top of that, but when you pick the support first phase it means you need to be
Sort of on the ball of being sure what core you're picking when you do this ban and you do very coordinated
Where is we need to do the other direction? It's easier that we pick the center now. We ban this the other way you need more foresight
And so it's just
It's more tricky, guys.
Can they do just take the moths?
Now it's going to be the treat of this series between Yandex and Navi.
I'd argue Manic and PMA kind of follow the same style of offline
and how they want to both draft and play.
So then we'll be kind of a battle of those heroes.
And maybe in future games we get to see the offline
to get promoted to the first phase
because they are kind of racing to pick up the same hero pool.
We just don't make a lot of sense.
Like against SD, you want to backline jumpers.
you kind of course take the lot's hard faster as well so that it's kind of harder to
save.
I will say it's well that PMA is very very known for as Mars like this guy as crazy performance
as on this hero.
I mean if I'm looking at the Andex you have SDG your hero you've got some good lanes you've
got decent damage I think when you play against Mars you always have some offensive
come to mind you're on the lower it's what not of course you have to respect the counter
pick.
So here for the Andex it would most likely make the most sense to actually end up picking
Watson's hero because you see that you know there's a wise he is gonna be the
off the Kansas available here that you always have to talk about when Mars is
picked like this of course the liquid utilized it and against falcons
there it is
last time in my life I think I've talked about Kess and the Droughts against pig
Jekiro says there's Mars that is not a nice land we saw that the lane went in the game
that thought it's got Molly Wop by liquid
So, we'll see if not we can do any better in lane.
I think they have double melee and not lane or was it also a range for with the Mars?
I think they have double the double.
Okay, then that's a special thing that was in the log?
Yeah, a log on Mars and...
Yeah, it's the Kyro that was untalable.
Good grief.
Yeah, this will not be as bad as that.
Uh, Huttman is a much stronger laner than four logger, especially against a lane like this.
You need to be able to fight back against them so I'm because they're harassed so strong.
So if you can't fight back at all, then it will just end the pepper you with damage,
and you will just lose going every time.
But if you take a one favorable trade, then you can stall it out and last a little longer.
But also I'm looking towards, you know, reducing a necuitive tension.
Right?
If you get a mid lane in that conteepe, the natural aggression of Ken's Chicero, you play
quite close to the, to the Navi tower.
So there's an option there that you can just keep, you gotta kill over the five position.
Go for the one gate and go for the kill.
And there's the Grimstrump, that's a beautiful, beautiful Grimstrump.
most disrespected hero in competitive Dota. I thought of like the 40 years
I don't pick but.
I mean I'm happy to see and I will say a little more drag and I think the
hero has looked very good in the games that we have seen and I think
specifically liquid. So for Navi, this is a hero that you you can flex.
It works very well with the two supports. Like the you love the two
supports that two supports love you. You can go for a bling that can
always put their spells on your portfolio. I will say Janik say do have a
good amount of damage. Like SD Jekira are not bad supports are killing
DK whatsoever, but it gives Navi a lot of the things that they were looking for.
Yeah, this is one of those drafts, and Navi is sort of just picking heroes that are nice for them,
and they're not really looking at the other screen.
Like, luckily.
DK is pretty bad against Shadow Demon, and scaling, and I think it's also kind of bad against
Ked's scaling.
That's what you said.
It's very cool, but this is not a little pick.
IPA, gigantic problem, because now underloading, if we put good against DK to, if this game
goes longer, like we talked about it's very possible, I do not think it is a rule for Navi at all.
It kind of needs to utilize this last pick to, of course, first establish the 5th root
of the Andex and find a point of pressure to keep applying because you add the moment.
It is very spooky. I think the main thing at least with the DK Grimster is,
I'm expecting that's a DK Safe Lane. DK Underlord, there's going to hit groups
and then Grimster will go for the twin gate. You'll create a trial lane and it'll just throw a spell
as constantly on the kez. So that is one way to deal with the kez lane matchup problem.
And maybe why they even offered up the Mars because they wanted to see the kez
as to then pick these aggressive heroes and maybe they already had a plan in mind.
Okay, we are just going to try and kill Watson once we bait out the Ken's deck.
So Yandex went Ersa and Haskar.
So they, I assume that they think, okay, the only carry we really care about if you do any type of swapping
is the Ersa and, well, one of, you know, they're mid-take.
That's probably coming out, just will not be very good against the Haskar.
Which makes sense, you're looking at most of, I would say,
this spirit could be kind of cool for you.
Yeah, it's also just sometimes you just sort of shot gun band and it's here a big
sure like I'm not 100% sure what I'm gonna pick and it depends what they
band and I just don't want to deal with it. We've seen cheer Junior play lots and
lots of melee heroes over this tournament so it's unsurprising the
Husker will be good against them.
And of course, Nick you just have complete freedom. If it is a mid lane then there's
like Queen of Pain any of just explosive hero to utilize the aggression that you
you expect to see from the other day?
Yeah, and I also think, like, it's one of those drafts for
a naughty where you're going into Lasfic, and you kind of have a
lot of stuff you need, you have team five, you have stuns, you've
got, you've got pretty good damage. And so I think really for
Niku, the board really is super open that you can just kind of
counterpick the other guy, and so if you're all five, it's almost
like you don't need anything specifically from your drafts, so
you can pick the girl that's best for the game. And I think that's
in theory, the best position you want to be in going into Lasfic
is having the freedom to pick against the enemy not for yourself.
Yeah, I think the only available for charity
that isn't like hard counterable from some like Neeku Hero
is the Beastmaster, everything else just feels like there is,
you know, punishment when you are picking it.
I kind of expose like this.
It's also that what Navi have,
it's kind of annoying to pick materials in my opinion.
Like, Grim is very annoying for a lot of like spirits
that you probably won't want to say
with like the DK.
So like, it would kind of like raise the value
might be like in a tank here also bit more, but there's no conquer around. We all know what we think about tiny.
There's there's going to be a problem for Yandex potentially where their natural initiation is
Kez plus mid lane double jump in someone. There isn't like a support that does it. The
offender needs to wait for initiation and they do go to the business association. I feel like you are
kind of if really it has good positioning, Kez's business are probably going to get so blind and
every big team fight based on how they naturally play in their positioning of their heroes. That's
That's something to maybe be mine for Loves.
Make it sniper here.
It's kind of cute.
I don't know if Niku really likes it that much,
but it's like a hand option.
The NX is here, it was like a reach
to a pretty decent extent.
So if you wanted to do something
that's a little more hipsterier, a little more scalar,
you definitely can.
You want something that's good against Beast and Lane for sure.
Yeah, like, let's go against Beast and Lane
and it doesn't get super annoying by the undone word.
I don't know if there are much that, you know,
share this.
I mean, they played with personal reports
just to be annoying.
and I don't know if you have a lot of time.
Yes, I've got a lot of time.
Yes.
I said, they played with Bristle before,
because the reason I was thinking about it
was just like, you can at least kill the balls
and annoy the landing of Terrad Unir's.
And I think about my crew.
And then to, I unload SD,
you could make an argument about SD,
you can get an axe and a break and then this fire storm.
But I feel like Navi's gameplay
is about playing before those things
really become a big problem.
I hate you want to annoy the landing phase of these master.
You want to enable the positioning of a grim,
positioning of a grim the early blink of a Mars and I think
Bruce back is gonna do that and it's always like this is a Bristol pick where you're
lacking team fight before and they have the stuns and the scaling and everything
can play so just stop the beast and try and get crazy in the early game
alright I actually like it I think with Grinstrook especially you want as many
melee course you can get where it becomes very hard for him to play the game and I
think even though he's playing and shattered even I somehow feel that it's fine
I'm not exactly sure what it is but it is very good against Beast Master is one of
heroes that will always do fine and you can even stop in the pfeeds a couple
boars so I like the pick and this game is one of the more even drafts that I think
we've seen today. I think this is very gameplay oriented and I'm honestly looking
forward to see how it plays out. Yeah I think so too. Like to me I'm a bit surprised
about the Beastmaster. I think Yannix's early game is honestly quite slow in a
way. Like they need to get out of the lane slightly like both the supports
have an unlike stack and then like go to a course I think to me not we have quite
the upper hand. I like the draft quite a lot. I think all the heroes can go with
one of the cores and actually apply a lot of pressure no matter where they go
what is to like invade the triangle of these stacks or go together to get a kill so
I kind of like what Navi have here I will say Janek's a bit of a the bit of a wild
car team right they've got to stand in we don't really know that power level dead well
but to me they need to execute this game
yeah we were saying when the load came out that maybe it was going to be an issue that
Navi can't deal with you feel like that's being dealt with because on the load
If he gets that free reign, if he's able to join his team in any sort of teamfight positioning,
he could become that big issue.
Yandex is a treat of like the counterplay, right? Beyond all that you're mentioning,
you have the defensive ice-paths, success positioning the entire game,
just disrupt and saving in a sole binder, anything to the bifelets,
second fights. Yandex is about discipline, and then for Navi, it's about having the teamfight
and being just really proactive.
But we've seen Yandex draw like this many times before they love it when games can go that distance
but will they make it that Navi is a team that we haven't seen for a while. We're actually
favoring that draw off and so it does bring a lot of questions around a game one in a best of five.
We've been waiting in the finals, it's now time to determine who their other opponent will be.
Will it be Yandex or will it be Navi?
Every word hit the thoughts of the panel going into this series, but since we have a pause on our ends, it's time to give your thoughts on these two teams.
Where do you feel like they're at their matchup? Is this even matchup between two teams or do you favor one team going into it?
I favor Yandex a little bit, think they've shown a bit more consistency on the international stage,
especially deeper into these brackets. They want a big land. I think Navi is still searching for
that consistency and it's one of their biggest weaknesses in a way. Like when they hit and they're
firing on all cylinders, I do not doubt to sealing the peak potential of this squad and that's why
they're really fun to watch. They're one of the most fun teams to watch and go to that is
undoubtedly true. It's just sometimes they fall completely flat, you know, they go for some of the crazy mid picks or some of the out of meta style and it just doesn't work in the aggression doesn't hit.
And this is going to be a stylist to clash where if they go for more aggressive skirmish heavy lineups, the index as we saw yesterday very strong defensive team can sometimes just not give you those early operas.
Yeah, I think that it is because the group stage was so even, I feel like both OG and Navi were actually the unfavored teams going into their semi-final matchup, just because they got there, not through a, you know, by far dominant, showing in the group stage that was so much better than everybody else.
They're matched up against veteran teams who have gotten not just more games in their history,
but more games specifically in the last few days.
And yet, it's coming into this not only have they gone further in tournaments,
but they've also had to play more matches here at Blastland 6.
And we've seen how that can build up momentum, secure ideas.
And for younger teams, it feels like those teams actually need to have those extra matches in the first place.
10 definitely go both ways. Here, the experience will secure Yendix, three values. So I'll
do a solid start. I like their lanes, so if I actually favor their draft more than the
panel is the panel, I'm kind of sorry I would not be, but I think you have underlorn these into
triple melee core. Sounds pretty juicy to me, man. Kazz also, the more I watch Kazz, I also think
he can be a gap close here, but he also prefers to play against melee cores, or he goes the
group in general. Yeah, he's very good at taking a manned fight. Basically nobody outman fights
this hero. So if you don't have to close an extreme gap, it means you can save more of your
spells and get more damage off quicker. He also stalks the shadow to me. I don't bet
against stalks the shadow to me. I don't know about you, but this guy is the master of this hero.
Probably the best player in the world right now on the shadow to even take first pick at every
time it's available. It's just so good with this hero. So I do like some of the things that
he and I brought to the draft. Navi, I think they have a lot of aggression as they normally do.
They have their signature release, Groom Stroke, and they do have a lot of kill threat.
With DK Mars going in with these two range supports that are super high damage dealers. So
if they can just get the ball rolling and start getting some pickoffs in that again, it can spiral
really quickly because pickoffs are going to lead into another pickoff and do another catch into a
to a Rochon into a high ground push with the dragonite,
and he next could definitely get caught off guard.
Now that's when you're talking about the best players in the world,
those are two different categories.
Soxa may be the best shatter demon in the world,
but he's in shatter demon his best hero.
That's a tough question.
He has a lot of very good heroes.
I know, right?
He might be up there.
I think there's a lot of people who say his tusk.
This is best hero because of the legacy of it.
Okay, I like he has so many games in his career that we're just insane task performances.
But he doesn't play his mission.
It's kind of hard to get a shot.
It's done.
Into a little bit more stuns with the blood grenade.
They're going to get a lot of damage on Malik here.
Not enough to finish the job, though.
Booksting back on Navi.
What has been the greatest drinks of this squad?
And you've been watching them.
Snowball potential?
early game aggression. The team fighting as well. I think they're very good team fight synergy. It's
why they like to play a lot of these high damage range supports that can follow up on stuns,
give you the killer combinations. They're very fast. They're just going in, playing them, just
all together. So you do not want to give them these kind of openings. They pick advantage of them
very quickly and they can just snowball to get out of nowhere. So we'll see how much the index can
play their defensive style. Get the stacks up, not give up too many pickoffs. The index is one of
of the better to use it not feed kills in early game,
practically with their support duo,
very stable support duo.
So this could be selling the knobbied
does not enjoy in the series,
they can't get some early pickoffs.
Valiby, Vulcinated for it,
and does manage to get the first blood,
probably gonna be traded out here with the,
y'all is chillin' at a fairy fire,
so you'll stay alive, and two fairy fires,
now he gets past the lotus.
See a lot more at a fairy fire purchases as well,
I think it's because of some of the economic changes to the early items like branches,
clarity, all these things cost in a little more gold. I've just seen people going more for
British fair fires across the board. Some of these supports are now going to get it too.
Just to try and make more out of the slots early.
Yeah, I think that trend was already happening before the branches went to 55 gold.
There was a lot of singular fairifiers being grabbed and then the chainchap and it was like, okay,
Well, the already liked fairy fires before you're gonna love them now.
Jim, but I'm worth having a man.
A lot of damage from Watson as it's stacking up with a Kaiser Reik Katana,
PMA's probably just gonna take out to all the damage over time here.
Dude, this lane is so hot, man.
Kase Chikiro, I actually can't think of more cancer's lane in this current patch.
It's really tough to stay against these two heroes.
The spells are so cheap for the damage they'll put.
I have to believe Kez has the highest damage per mana cost of any carry in the game right now.
Sure.
I don't do that for a fact, but he's got to be at least the top three.
And Jekiro is probably in top three in terms of damage per mana cost as well because
Liquid Fire is a free spell.
Yeah.
So you just cannot win the resource battle against this lane before the long run.
And we see Zio, it's just a bandy in that lane.
He's is dragonality off of it, which I think is actually a win for him.
I just hope he doesn't go down in the river here, you might.
Slow down, hey, by the dual breath, and that will be another death for a riot.
So, in talking about knobby and their strengths, you said some of the early game aggression
is important in order to stay that off.
Do you feel like it's important for Yandex to get leaning phase wins in this series?
For sure, it goes a huge way for them.
I think if they win lane phase, they are...
I favor them heavily.
just going into that making a get their such a stable team not going to give you a lot of
openings. You can get another d-word mid. Some of these early words getting killed and
other rotating three years to mid with the beast master level six bristles to level five.
It's a big pressure point right now. They won the lanes here up 2k. They move on Watson.
This needs to land but it's such a mobile hero. The first sign of aggression immediately grappling
in the right-hand side, they were trying to sandwich him with three different heroes
and he doesn't work at all.
That's a big move to fail because it also means you're not bringing a support
spits.
So now we see Riddis TP in it, but this could just be a trap.
I already spotted by socks that he's going to be caught in the disruptions stuck in these
trees, though the horse is going to go down so he's going to be stuck either way.
Now, more thought of the first hit and some quills, so there is enough damage and
I think the EQ is going to have to back away,
picks up the arcade room before he inevitably dies.
Just such high damage coming from these two supports,
Georgia and you really didn't have to do too much there.
The early de 70 has really turned the shatter to even
to do a river for all or more than some old skill builds.
Now, PMA is that he just had two supports back in
and I'm trying to go off the cage and blink
and all of a sudden, now he's the one outnumbered
one B2 and going to die and perhaps his wisdom trying is going to be under a
salt too. That's another 15 seconds till that.
I mean, does he have to see that needed?
This Jekiro's are level five. He's absolutely destroying this game. He's massive.
Now, the user will make a run back.
He might as well try. It's unlikely to get this, though, science is already here.
Yeah, he's not going to force it too much because he does not need it.
They're going to get the other one.
He's almost a little six.
They also were still stacking triangle.
Socks of always get sea stacks in.
So you look at this level of disparity.
It's about to grow into a gold disparity.
Not the intro we hear early game.
Zero kills on the board.
They're not really winning any late.
Oh, Lee.
Yeah, this is significant.
They don't have to just try and get some more stacks
for the personal up.
Accelerate his farm that way and let him hold the fan guard
in this game.
But their supports are a little bit behind.
So you're not going to have that extra kill threat with so-buy and or sharpshooter going into some of these
planks thunders early as you'd like.
Just very solid early gameplay here from the annex.
Again, making almost no mistakes here.
No bad kills given up.
In fact, no kills given up.
The stacks are still being created.
They've gotten some d-words, making very nice rotations with their supports.
And the secure and low power.
Look at the damage!
It's just...
He's up on the path, I told this to you.
Yeah.
It's getting way too much done in this early year.
They're just casually poking Nico and he just goes down to half HP.
Pretty rough. If he didn't have these tranquil boots, he would've been kicked out of line
a whole lot more than he currently has.
Going for the mid tower, with this level 3-0.
All right, Snakes won over, and maybe they haven't gotten a kill yet, but say that he's denied a kill the way from the end of it.
It's crazy to warn there.
I'm on the start.
Here's a kill.
Alec?
Can this be their first kill?
Note, Jared Jr.'s already rotated in, and will scare back the rest of Navi.
Support level difference.
If the Grims won the fire, and so that's your kill only, you can get that extra kill these things out of.
The NBA will buy off the ice path pretty easy for Watts and Manlots and just have a dream game 4,500
net worth for both him and the beast master while the dragon knight and the bristle back had yet to breach 4k
You cannot leave melee heroes alone against cuz it's just it's not something you could do and they're
Getting dragged around the map. There's a lot of pressure going on multiple lanes so these supports have been trying to salvage something but
But it is definitely what the Mars out the dry here.
So somebody's moves have to succeed.
You can try and invade and steal some stacks.
I like this idea.
Launcher boy, Jersey.
You're gonna be your god.
I'm on the sound.
Right before he can get up the war.
Now they're gonna change it with the stun.
Will they have enough damage for all of this?
The show comes through.
He gets off the war, but he does die.
Now Malik is gonna try and take advantage of the stun.
As Nico is already taken so much.
He's very dead for this.
It's going to be a trade off still of one for one, possibly two for one.
as science knowing he's dead,
just tries to snipe careers.
I did not see how much they got off the ancient stack,
but unless they stole a whole lot,
that did not seem worth it.
They get the XP at least.
I think the first one got a couple of the ancient critills.
It's like kind of worth it for the supports here on Navi
just because of the XP you're getting.
Now you have Soulbind up in about a couple of XP points.
He slowed out this beast. I think if you let beast get away with just farming the stack for free
He's gonna be very fat very difficult to deal with and this roar goes in
All those cruts let the Shirajui are actually I swear the person who he's got one of those, but that's his clean of all up
That's got sat for Niko. You're just a unlucky timey there with the kip quills spray
And maybe charge you're not too sad about that in the end
I don't know, all the vested into that roof where it gets most of the stack anyway.
And now this push underlord, Jekiro, tough to fight into the underlord, he's going to push
the wigs in and then the Jekiro, just spamming Liquid Fire on tower.
Already level 7, max Liquid Fire available.
That's it's gonna do some heavy lifting and 6-1's.
I mean, no to give this up.
I just do to the heroes that are already here,
but they saw kids making the rotation through the gate.
They have double wards.
One lane ward and one twin gate ward.
She's got to keep stacking, farming up, getting the efficiency out of the jungle.
They don't mask a van escape, they can go to work.
You know, a personal back that can clear through the other set of ancients, pretty quickly here.
So you're not going to fall behind if nothing's happening.
It's just the bars who's going to have some really slow times here.
He got cased and that landing phase happens to the best of them.
But this blink is going to be mega delayed.
I mean, he's not even close to it.
What do you think?
So, so grieves is become, you know, one of the new meta items where we're seeing some some
mids, some off lanes or getting grieves.
Really nice pickup, but we're also seeing boots of bearing on very specific heroes as like
a rush.
You've seen it on the off lane bat rider.
Now we're seeing on Niko's mid burstleback.
You think this has some legs?
Do you think this is actually good?
I think the item is good. I'm still not convinced as a core item just because there's a lot of gold going into the ring which
health regents nice, but for that much gold in the early game
It's not helping you far, but it's not helping you accelerate or push waves or anything. It'll finally claim this trick here all in a little. That's about time
Seriously, how do you've been so far forward for most of this game now that you finally get the second field again
It is like boots of Baron game though in terms of getting out of some of the underlord gunk
Some of the jaciro gunk maybe you can kite has a little easier as a lot of slows in the sand
Next line of
So I like the idea here
Let's see if it can pay off or eat to it to play
Of course the region of the personalist nice and any sort of EHP on this hero goes all the way
And now you have your supportals so
Now I'll be kind of weathering the storm here. I don't like that early game went according to how they wanted it to but
They're making the most of the situation, not giving up any more bad deaths, they got the stacks going,
they're keeping their cores up in that network, and they got to the support levels.
So, not as bad of positions I thought have might have been, given the start,
and still have a wisdom trying to claim to hear intense seconds.
of
You only done some stacking this game.
Yeah, I haven't noticed.
Navi are trying to make the most of,
they have less map control, so you can see both supports
and you know, you have the personal back has been doing it,
just stacking up what, what new tools they do have control of.
Now, what this in is, it's gonna get some good information.
Sox has already making his way over,
but runs over a century, gets spotted.
No setup here.
I'll be bringing heroes top. They're smoking this person the boots of bearing just completed
Right around down these arrows
Splatternality, though the search goes out and he goes just grounded to a whole fair underneath
McRapire the already gonna take so much damage not feeling great about this chase
Let's be faster coming in for a side. He has an axe completely done
Yeah, that's five of those dudes is that horror goes down in the drum start playing
I don't think knobby one any of that and of course the stacks that they were just doing while I'm sure
Junior a lot of those
Those are true triple. So I think by Rites
All to the beast that's not who you want to those stacks going to no and Rosh is also going to pop. So perfect time for this beast eggs
Thanks.
You put them away from the building early.
You get the stacks and you're straight to the roach.
Can't really ask for any more value of this Beast Master Axe timing.
They've got a catch, they've got a catch Watson.
They've tried a few times now to shut down Watson's Kez, who has largely been left alone
after the Punishkin he gave them the lightning phase this roach on, they take it.
Navi, may not even get this tower, the TPS coming in from Malik.
If they don't get the pick off and now the underlord is sitting in front of the tower,
they just have to give this up a big rotation that doesn't net them anything,
and return while this roachon was being done.
It's pretty scary to just push these towers straight up with the underlord.
You can connect with gate, and crimson-ordidunny, so strong around these two ones.
Today have some more sustained, like DKBs later on, or some low resorts, or something.
Pretty hard for this triple melee court to just go into a tower like that
Just gonna end up fighting under axe's macro firestorm pit
They will get a bit more of initiation as
Got the juices gonna finish up his blink dagger off this way
So maybe back in speed things up for Navi does feel like they're they've been trying to make moves, but
Do not have the easiest way to start those fights unless I hear what's just sitting in lane will be able to get the catch on Malik here
He tries to go through the game. We're gonna push down this tower
PMA got away with the arena, so this is all good bit of a distraction got the tower
Maybe they haven't gotten me big hero kills for anything, but
It's a nice tower to get without
Yeah, that's getting a fight out of it
So don't you definitely have to be about that.
And Sox has so bold. They aren't going to try and punish them.
So hi, it's whipping the bushwack.
Just not connecting here.
Once somebody's kills, we'll have to pick up at some point.
I think got the juice.
I think he's just thinking about going BKB over the earlier blink.
They just don't have to envision the aggressive map to really utilize this if he goes for some blink play and it fails
Then his game just becomes shot completely
You already have the blink on the Mars so this supports it might be they have to go with PMA and start looking for some
Some casual pick-offs. You don't want to just dive into Yannix with their all symbol this five
You want to try and find the isolated heroes around the map right now get some wards up around these ancient camps on the side
see where this beast is farming he can he's going to be one of the isolated heroes he has
just right now but can we set up more later maybe find the underlord as well those are
kind of the two targets you're hoping to get the pickoffs on. So yeah somebody could just run
into this head on with a BKD or something offensive item I don't think you're taking a final
five. That is not gonna end well for you. I think Watson just got bored. He's like had this
his deathsoe for a little bit, he's halfway to his BKB, but he's going to join his two supports
on a smoke tank, see if he can get some deathsoe charges here.
He's setting his...
Completing the BKB first Niko.
First target they run into underneath the tier 2 tower, and they easily kill it, and now the
war goes down on Gopperjuice, happy, he's already trying to save him with the arena, it's
not going to do much, Phil, the drone just keep on banging.
Now it's going to be watching in some trouble, though, maybe they can at least get this
One heel big throw up a silent,
both supports are trying to do the damage
to finish them off the stroke from through.
It's still not a puppy's taking taking,
but he will not die.
Wants and stays alive through it all,
and Navi lose every single hero outside of Zion.
Who may still die is dodging the bush
whack, Watson goes on.
Back in and finish them off,
seals the deal by for nothing.
Not a big, absolutely zero out of that.
Somehow, soxie is so kill.
in work in that fight. The only reason Watson's
live is an incredibly clushed disruption at the
perfect time to bail. That gets out. And that
whole fight just turns on time. This is a tough
target for Yandex to go on first. First,
under a tower with the boots of Barry. Kind of
an ideal set up for Navi. That ran through
the answer just did so much damage. You get
them so blind. You get a pretty good
ink swell. But again, you're ink pit. You're
in macropire. You're in firestorm. And
that disruption failing gets out just so big pre-andex is why don't want to give this
guy a shout out to the spellcasting with the heroes it's just nasty man and we
saw at the end of that fight BKB bought out for the dragon knight imagine you have it
for that exchange how different that fight will go yeah I don't know I'm a little
Well, hesitant to say it would be that different, just because I need that bristle back
died so quickly.
You know, I did DJ takes way less damage from McRefire Storm, can you just peek
if you sit there?
Oh, for sure.
Smoke on Spokers gonna break things while it's Asian DMA.
It's a beautiful jump, but the disruption goes out instantly.
They're gonna kill the shadow demon, Mr. Jürgen, your chance BKB war goes out.
Focus on the Shrek and I, which is BKB, but now the physical damage of the Kez and
just the right clicks of both here, Jr.
a malico, bring him down anyway.
Mars goes through these Skate PMA cuts one wave
and does manage the TP out.
Nico is taking the top tower meanwhile.
So that was an awfully aggressive move
without their bristle back.
We'll destroy it here as they weren't working
for the full out fight.
They just want to find some pickoffs.
Get this D4 to.
If a silenced hits on this SD before that disruption goes out
might be a very different situation, but again, the clutch disruptions, allows you be used
to get VGAB off, he's healthy, can just take the manfight, don't have bristle to help you.
Wouldn't that manfight?
I just shattered even, has already done work, and I do not think we're gonna see this here
on game 2.
It's just dope, it's just such an aggressive hero, and it gets to play this game, and you
don't have backline jump, which is one of the downsides of this not be light up, they
have to kind of just go in with the triple bay lake or base first and take the fight
that gets brought to them. You can't really say, hey, let's jump the SD first. I mean,
who's going to jump the SD first? Maybe the maybe PMA with this Mars gets a clutch catch,
but even then, it's not guaranteed. I'm not saying you're wrong, but it does feel like like
If I was coaching Navi, I would have, I would feel like there was a lot of heroes that were a problem here, you know?
And so like what do you even do about that, your junior?
Not bothering to use the DKB until now.
It can make fun of me too, with the TV to put it in the middle or they easily get that kill.
And just running away for the Navi supports, oh both be able to.
Well maybe not your junior is actually head of science here.
So he's kind of sandwiched in.
Not only will he lose and trying to whizz down, but perhaps he'll lose his light cut
through the trees and gets ahead of socks up before the disruption can stop them.
So he does manage to get out, but these cores just getting blown up so quickly.
The two-thousand damage from B's going straight to the front of that personal.
Basically, it's just so work out with some extra chains to help.
That's so much single target DPS between the Kez and the Beast here with disseminate to
back them up.
You're gonna get melted in the fight
What the carry here for
Forgot the juice on this dragonite
Dude get a BTV on the bars that at least gives you another here. They can kind of stay in on that front line a little bit
the
and spear initiation in order to win a fight
the way things are so lob-sided right now,
15,000 at Ripley for Yandex, 18 to 4.
You're looking at this butterfly on Kez.
That's very typical fight in the deal
with the eggs on the shadow,
even as coming out soon, great, great game.
The recourse that can get broken herely.
Dear God, that is his valuables, it gets.
So there's big happens continuing to come out pre-index.
These teeth fights are not gonna be easier.
I think you're gonna have to try and make a move
with an extra shot here, if you're not,
you have your little BKV timing right now.
If you can get an inkswell core stunner into the middle of the
fray and just change to one of these heroes down.
It's your best entryway into the fight.
You can, I think, 100 to 0,
and you core with proper change stun.
Assuming there is no disruption.
And that is not an assumption you should make,
So somebody has to tag this shatter even in the fight.
I've man smoked into the triangle.
Yandex.
Mirroring that or man smoke into dire's triangle wrapping around through mid.
Trying to bait out the underlords.
But Navi are not taking that bait.
We need for something else to show up on the map and nothing is.
the
He's going to catch up as he's the cat is PMA.
Now pops BKB hopes a marine ally to keep him out and does so successfully still close call.
They use so much just to escape.
It's now what you want to see likely giving a brochure to be surprised that Phoenix
don't try and force it though, Alawatson.
I think I'll go bottom here.
I'm actually just going straight to the pit.
Yeah, I need him to do it, but it does slow it down considerably.
We have to re-join his team.
I'm not going to get quite on that word, but the Mars using both of the spells on that camp
before it broke out, was not a great time.
Unfortunately, catch the M.A., no look at how the B.T. may be a reener to protect himself,
so socks as high ground ward will be the death of them.
She's apparently basically so well killing him.
Yep.
717 on this SD2 incredibly plutch disruptions.
Now he's so well killing course.
I don't want to give this guy a 0. Not gonna have a good hunt. This is a easy
high ground push here. And basically it's really done. It's so early in the game. They
have a banner at 27 minutes. Crimson, Blads, Drum, all the ore has already done. But it's
physical or in the body of the kez on the front line and take the roar whatever
shows up to her junior executes I had it is there I mean there is a
fight back on the way and now the war is on cool down is there a chance that
Navi can take an advantageous fight here man they don't even feel confident
pushing for it's your junior just links on don't I even carry good arena
That's the back line to go for the shadow element. The shadow even though we still got off the disruptor before the aim swell
It's a lovely death a few extra seconds, or maybe it's a lazy and entirely
He could thought they're from on a clumsy stock going to die once again. It is not the
Torehine so hard to get a singular kill at Yandex to pride them of everything
Such a stable team
As a definition of the Yandex right now, just the no opening to fail
What should be an easy support kill with Arena?
Turns into an impossible kill with SolarCrest curbs in cleanse
Jared Jr. Still messing around with him up here. He doesn't want to look the outside the base. Yeah, you got lower back up
If he has BKB roared, he's kind of undulcturled
Are yes, she was done for this level as well. I
Could say
Very valuable item against this triple melee core
As game spiraled quite quickly off that lane phase 1.
AEC done as I just treat big items in this game.
Came up too fast.
It's got to take some crazy soul bind.
You're going to need soul bind into double DK stun.
Double spear landing.
Inks well, stunting 2 or 3 year old.
You're going to need back kind of fight with your control.
You have to make it work.
That's the thing, they don't have like the most amazing single target abilities to play off with Soulfight.
So, from what's in you like and tell, touching the SD at the start is beautiful and wazzing.
Philpy stunned it, I'll be making a knock it off his BKB not bad.
Recognizing the threat whatsoever, now he's gonna die for him.
No one should still fighting through, still keeping himself alive, Jesus!
He survived your so long and felt like he was guaranteed dead
with how much damage was on him already, the ticks, but...
He survives long enough to get up, boatload, more damage in Navi will finally get some kills,
but another disadvantage is fight two for three.
They did run out on the gold, the next P because so far behind, so...
Technically, I will evictory right there, and that's the dream, by the SD at the start,
and then you get the chains down this kez.
Watson, very greedy with the PKV usage there.
Never gets a raptor, it's off here, but hand the life steal in this hero.
He has gunpowder gauntlet too, so he has the evasion.
So if you can get in there and just start life steal, he can look for a really long time.
and
great deal to get here for an all he gives you a chance to try and make something happen in this game
I have a low source on the personal so big item here you can reflect one of these roars that would be
massive
to
give it a little bit more time got the juice can get to
datalus which is pretty massive damage upgrade.
But it doesn't look like the index is going to give him that time.
Girer Jr in the rest of the squad already coming through with a small
Junior smoke rates blink forward goes for the roar it gets it on ready. It's ready for staff just a little bit too late push
Wack doesn't land as DKB goes off and ready's falls
Somebody just dies to roar everybody if it feels almost up preventable
But you'll you'll take that sacrifice to five push your DK towards that table is
The index they're not gonna get too much warmth this they're trying for a demonic first year
That is an effort. There's the catch of the gauge macro pie burning them out all things not going anywhere man. Now the gate
Malacum's through hits a pit on two more heroes. I'll back out
This first leg is not taking it at all
How would he say broken by two demonic purchase? Yeah, I have to make it almost nobody survived in that
easy line here for the index there's your dk deal is put
by already happened without it
all the time it's here for not be we're just off the
and
wants and saying you know what that data list pretty nice
and hope it went up to
the lab at probably before they go for the high ground put year is
That was a lot of damage.
That's probably an understatement.
This ced gets to hit people, they're just gone.
It's been a long early last.
He's so quickly and so hard, and that's all like we don't even get to see his passive.
really doing damage, Kanzerai Kutan, because he just kills them outright with his physical
damage before the ticks even really start hitting.
I'm lucky you got the juice runs into Watson.
Oh, and now he could not afford to run into every other hero, he can't beat T.B. out, but
the Kez? Kez kills him in two seconds flat.
He's so he did just call it, yeah, I don't blame him, dude. That was like, I'll take
at the out of the casual, I don't want to ride. Mr. Kez is wilder, I'd be more, and he can't
blame him on that one. 818 for Watson continues his dominance from Bestia. He is just...
Oh, he's games. He is in the zone right now, and that is good news for he and X, because I think
a lot of the strides are kind of built around his hypercarry style. So you need that guy
to be performing well for the look on the other, but honestly this game? It's game got
one by the supports. First, he had meant to 15 minutes. Now, the on this Chikiro, decimates
that bottom lane makes the rotations, and then even some top socks with great stacking defensive gameplay
very clutch disruptions, like these guys are just playing in the zone right now, so you're
going to have to deprive them of some of their better heroes, or just coming with guns blazing
pure aggression take them out of bounds. It's going to be a long series for Navi at this rate
to best of five and a lot of problems to solve after game one.
Well, that could be a bad thing for Navi and Navi fans, but it's also a good thing because it
means it's a long series and we've got a bit of a change up on our panel as long and
address the elephant or the Boltman in the room. Teddy!
How it is!
There it is. A ball joke in the first 10 seconds is not what you're talking about.
I appreciate it. I appreciate it.
You're gonna have to play next game, huh?
We can.
No, I'm joking.
It's a lot of fun.
We're gonna have Puring joining us.
Some of this breakdown of game number one between at Navi and Yandex.
And you guys said, again, they love it when they get their games to be stable for themselves.
And don't even need to necessarily have winning lanes.
But this time around, that was a big key to their speed test.
Yeah.
I mean, to be honest, they broke the script with the traditional games,
which is draw the lanes, follow a lot, and then eventually when they just absolutely
ransacked them in lanes, it was not even close. I think this Marsverse Kess, this cannot
happen again because this lane is not real and the game is not real after it happens.
I gave them the benefit of the thoughts.
If you're picking Mars offering up the Kess, I'm expecting some some spikes of juice,
you know, some like rotation or something, but they didn't do anything. They didn't rotate.
That midlane about tranquil sobering and just kind of existed. Nothing nobody did was like
trying to be what was a good draw from Yandex.
So, yeah, I really hope for Navi's sake.
You just fully forget this game,
and we get to see a new Navi game too, because
yeah, this was just complete team death.
You don't want to forget it too much.
Mm-hmm.
I got a lot of nerve care, actually.
Maybe one is, can I swear on this?
Yeah.
Oh, you want it?
Fuck, Kez.
Yeah, that's the good one.
That's the good one.
Nice.
Uh, under Lord V. Good hero.
Ooh, I think you're like a pretty big, like, uh,
hoodwink fit underwhelming.
So far for me.
I would say even in this tournament underwhelming, not for serious, yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
I mean, in an additional fuck case, just a guy in the end there.
I really got to drive that point on my own.
Hate this hero.
You see someone pick this, you better have a plan.
Is they always know what they're doing?
And I don't know what this hero does, apart from just this.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know what I've been either.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's a quick pick.
When you see kids, it's one of two things.
If it's on your team, you know, it's the first time
this person's ever playing yet.
And if it's on the enemy team, they're the biggest sweat load you've ever met.
And they know every spell of my heart.
I mean, you know, it's such a skill tier in that instance.
Cause even on the replay, I don't think what's even moved his hand.
It's on the keyboard.
He just right clicked one time, you know, and then the guy died.
You know, it was like great.
Congratulations, brother.
But look, ready.
Hold.
We're gonna talk to you.
That left hard to do.
And it has a whole funny actually.
Yeah.
You think it'd be like this crazy APM?
What ever?
No, no.
And the test, Simone's matchup, we've already talked about it.
It went really bad yesterday.
when Falcon's played it into liquid and the script
not changed at all this time around.
Yeah, I mean, Jikiroka is it's a monster lane.
And you blind pick the Mars, you know it's coming to me.
This game is honestly not that you have to lane.
If you're gonna play the lanes like this,
like I think there's an expectation
that if you're picking this, you have some idea
about we can outplay them in lanes
and we can have some tempo because if lanes go like this,
it's legit hopeless.
Like they cannot play against the underlord,
against shatter demon with dragon,
I'd bristle back course in a game that is even
or they're behind, it's just not real.
When did they pick the Mars?
Because I wasn't here for the draw.
It was opening out of, like, as in novice, opening out of second phase bands.
Right there.
So basically, there's that chance to flex.
They only saw that.
Not at the moment.
So, yeah.
They pick Mars, the only TST, and then they pretty much locked it into often very quickly.
Okay.
But yeah.
There's a, there's a subs decision.
I think, I mean, also, I'll mention this first of back.
You last picked Bristol, into Beastmaster, and you just, you lose the light.
lane. You get owned in lane in a lane that you kind of pick your only job is to be the
guy in lane and you lose the lane. You can see the the Morris kes that. There's a little
bit of a discrepancy there. Why did you want you to suggest the the bristle back then T if
was not bad. Because you predicted the bristle and obviously they were listening.
Obviously, I wasn't expecting brother to go for triangles into soldering and then kind of
act like it was a 12th game of Dota. I know it's a young lad, but he's got more games
under the belt. I really honestly, as much as I like, I like Niku from the mid lane.
I fucking hate this boots of Barry's already does. He did it on the Viper. He's doing it on this
buddy bristle back fight. You don't need to do it, man. Like no one else is doing this. No one's
going, wow, this is the tech. He's tried it multiple times. He's everyone's up to the
baiters in the same ropes and until it works. I could have a letter to TV. I didn't see the 10
things he built before the TV that were kind of like a TV, but was shit. I get that. The
The tenth one is like, that's a TV.
Yeah, but the problem is, is like, the boots are bearing.
He's trying it on different heroes.
And then he loses, tries again on a new hero.
So he keeps convincing his team.
Like, boots are bearing to the ship.
OK.
I still work here.
Do you think you could name one failed invention?
Well, I think it's a fail.
Exactly.
So can you name one Dota hero for me?
Because we're going to play a fun little game before we get it.
Exactly.
That's it.
We have to guess who the Dota hero is.
I got to put my glasses on.
It's life's dinner.
That doesn't look like life's dinner.
I was going to say probably this, but yes, I think it probably is.
There is.
What?
What if this crazy font?
I hope production has a lot of these red.
If we're going to get them like that.
What was that?
The top of the last deal.
Is that the, that was a crazy font?
What did, what's it, how do you mean?
Croken the font?
Right, right.
Is it?
Surely.
It looks like the heartbeat.
Oh, visage.
Oh, it's visage array.
No, no.
Oh, you hear us.
I just don't understand.
He's done the heroes.
I didn't do this.
I'm on the heroes.
Correct.
Like then?
Oh, G.K. and Dragon Form?
Yeah.
That's not a bad guess.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, the monster hunter.
Oh.
That's what it is.
Very cool.
Then I'm wearing a monster jump.
It's a really good jump.
Oh, by the way.
There's a balloon.
That's techies.
That's a punch.
Yeah.
I don't know.
So I was looking at like a nose at the front like the techies at the front with the horn
And I knew you would get them quick fight fight that's my burr that's a hundred percent
Shit, what is it really top what's going on the top of them winter-wivein
Yeah, my god is this whack job set I've never seen that before
I don't think you actually have a set on any hero.
No, I just wait to play it.
When you're on a defu?
Oh, no.
That would be a fun much more fun.
Oh, no.
It's Quinn was just defu model.
Now I've never bought it.
That would have been good.
But the ones I have, people have gifted me.
Oh, I don't have that added as borrowed.
I got it.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Yeah, I don't want to say it.
Don't want to say it.
That one's a bit with Jimmy.
Yeah, yeah.
I was almost as easy as my first one.
Yep.
But give us a difficult one production.
Oh, oh.
Oh, oh.
It's a hundred percent vital.
You're pleading. What the hell is that?
I see that board.
Yeah.
Lock up.
I don't know.
Ball heroes in Dota.
Um.
I caught him again.
Axis Bold.
He's shaped the top.
He's kind of pony-held doesn't he?
Yeah, but you can be bold and have a ponytail.
I like the footage monks.
They have that sometimes. He's still called him Bold.
That...
Oh, what the...
What the...
I...
I-I-I...
I-I...
I was like...
It looks like I'm off, but I don't think it is.
What-but it looks like a catapult, but it's the only heroes.
Oh, yeah, I thought I really thought that was scary.
I feel like there's weapons is so unique.
Or it looks like a camera turned left.
Legion come on.
No.
Fenge.
Who is a big long staff?
I really get to be dating you into like a monkey king with something.
It's not wall look.
Why did he come to all to like this?
It looks like he's a little bit of a little bit of a little bit.
It looks like he's like, oh it's monkey king.
Oh, I thought he was a little bit.
I thought he was a little bit.
Oh, just listen to me say it feels like it's baiting you into saying monkey king.
Yeah, that stuff is too mystical magical.
I think it's just off.
What else is, oh, maybe you asked for this by the way, Ted?
Well, yes, this is like a bridge of stuff.
Maybe he's casting a spell or is it zoomed?
who's casting lightning bolt as a link?
I wish I had to hear a great fit is there, okay?
That's an interesting one.
People at home, why aren't you going to go cheat?
Or, huh?
Oh, boss wants to have the less rock.
I'm trusting that guy over there.
Get out of the house!
Whoa!
Oh, please!
What the heck?
You think I was going to go dead?
Yeah, I didn't say.
Well done, that's right.
You asked production for a hard one, they delivered.
Yeah, I also wonder.
Are you just in demo mode or like here?
This is your water tanker around.
You're going to give him half a boat ticket.
It's not been open.
Not been open.
Hydration again.
Also on the label.
On label as well.
So it's safer broadcast.
That is a good one too.
All right.
Well, do you feel like if you had a auto one period,
you would have been able to guess or you're like,
how is it?
That was the captain.
Yeah, test.
Excuse me.
If you.
We were so hot.
I'm not throwing you into the bus.
That is a very good one.
I feel like after this period, we're going to want to be able to final, but you're going
to continue staying with us.
We're all going to go to a break, though, when we come back out, best to five to ten
This is the first time I've seen this video, so I'm going to show you how to do this video.
Listen to me, and I'll come back first.
Okay, I love you.
I love you.
I love you.
I love you.
Nico! Nico!
I'm gonna show you this.
No, no, no, no, no.
Listen.
Oxy, that box.
Oh no, everyone.
Grief's the most on the team.
Need definitely Quest.
I think Quim and Grief's are all.
Get through.
Oh, well, I'll try to pull over there.
I'm not a greaser.
Yep.
But there are two forms of greafing.
Okay, but it's also what someone who isn't a greaser was say.
Hmm.
One of the two forms.
The one that runs down mid and the one that requests people to run down mid.
Who does that?
Yeah, who would do something?
Who would do that?
I don't know.
My, okay, I always say if you want something done,
you gotta do it yourself.
I'm not a requesting it, okay?
That's true.
Mm, yes.
And that's some overlord.
I am the surf.
That's true.
When you just say end, yeah.
Can you say that?
Can you imagine again, it's just give me an end.
And perfect.
Oh, you're gonna clip it?
I would clip that.
I would clip that.
I would clip it.
Well, yeah, a lot of us said you,
I don't actually think that if we were in a competitive
stack when not that we ever would be.
I would never actually put you as a greafer.
Especially not up against three X-Chinese pro players
and a couple high on our testers.
I forgot that actually happened.
I think I've worked that for my life.
We've been able to show that in Chengdu.
And I'm like, okay, I'm gonna preface
in this story kind of bad, but it ends good, right?
Have you ever been overwhelmed with a motion
that you're bringing kind of like,
shoves the memory really far down constantly?
Yeah, that was it.
I was so overwhelmed.
I kind of forgot about it.
And hopefully, Nabi, they've been able to forget about the game
number one for themselves because it was not a pretty one. They obviously were trying to get
themselves a win-the-but Yandex had the upper hand, closed it out pretty quick for themselves,
and then it does beg the question, how are they going to reset for a game too?
It is the best of 5's, maybe I'm being a little bit harsh here, there are always
learning lessons when it comes to competitive dirt, but it's how quickly can you react to them.
And I'm going to ask Pireen how he feels, maybe Navi could react off to that game one and
change up what is going to be happening in their band as Yandex still has the first pick-up.
Don't ask me.
Oh, okay.
I really want to join us on.
I think you're going to stay no cares.
Yeah, they've let it through, so they obviously feel that they've got an answer to it.
I don't know where the answer to Kez is other than you've got to stop him in lane.
I don't play the heroes, I don't know what he wants and what he doesn't want.
You make a great point there. I find Navi just winning one lane.
It's a great start.
Yeah, I'm already looking in the Vorlock.
That's a great start.
Look at who's a lane on Vorlock.
You cannot.
Your carry will farm the entire time.
Yes.
is just true, honestly.
I can't captivate that one bit.
I do think it's a little weird picking into SD
because all your stuff gets purged.
The Monaco lens is super, super good against the serial
as you go on the stretch.
So generally, Shadow Demon's considered
like kind of good against Warlock,
but it's not the end of the world.
I think it's also like mega comfort for cities,
which I think is, which is good.
You lost the game one pretty convincingly,
gets solid lanes, fixture problems that were there last game
and like actually played out of the game.
Why is the Shadow Demon seen as so valuable?
Because I've seen people talking about,
He's been picked up a lot.
Is it, I mean, he does a lot, right?
Beca be pissing, you know, sort of slow
if you like, he's got, say, if he's just
the extra vision from his poison, is that it?
I mean, is there no way the hero that does what he does?
I mean, this also has a facet as well,
right, having percentage HP gain on losses
was very good.
Yeah.
And then you just play such a chill calm game.
And you kind of invite your opponent to make him a steak
the entire time.
And like you said, he just does a bit of everything.
He does, yeah, it does.
Jack of all trades, but he's also kind of master
all those trades too.
Indeed.
Big on trades, this guy.
You know what he doesn't like, though?
A big gun of in the face.
So I'm hoping for Navi, they can find some way
to give some grimoire charges for this warlock
for a gun I'm down, take some towers.
You know, they charges, dude.
He takes champion of Garth and walks people down
with the big man, that's what he is.
All right, there is that, so.
All right, there is a very meme strategy with Warlock
where you take that facet and then the region is based
on current region.
So it's not about when it spawns it.
So if you have, like, I am inhaling war
all this just healing on top of the ballad you can make a beefy go
exactly I just thought it was a pro that just looked ready to
blow their energy imagination like the core helping the support by
pretty healing what that said I'm hurt so they take in the underworld
which they just lost to which is wise I think that's always a small
move I think it's wise too that the Earth has already been razor's out
vipers out SF's out a lot of the dudes who smack the gold what is he even
He's a demon, I guess?
He's an underload, so he's a demon from the underworld who is a lord.
I'm not a lore guy like Slacks, but I can tell you they're looking at this guy.
Yeah, I would say.
He is the lord of something underneath, which implies hell, looking at him.
He does look hellish.
But if that is cool, like imagine if you had a big, like,
clawing circle in your head like that,
you better carry a little eye to see.
Well, what level of Dante's in Phonage you think he comes from?
Which circle?
Yeah, 100-700.
Let me think it depends on your sin. I'd have to do a back and read it. It looks like a wrath kind of guy
He's pretty wrathful, but you know that it's weird death. Oh sloth because he's a little slow
They punish people for all kinds of crazy things in bad days of fun. Oh you're a bit of a gossip
That's it. You got to wear a giant hot bell for the rest of your life
Well something like that specific
Tied hunter here we go battle of the big men
This is like my big brother's gonna beat you up. That's what Warlock and Shattered even the same
each other. That is what this thing looks like. I wish they saw this for us, yeah.
And then it's big brother sees the other and things out of shit. I thought this is gonna be easy.
Which one do you prefer? Out of the big brothers? I mean, obviously the thing. I think the combo with
Uncle Lord and Warlock, you've got fatal bonds with a lot of airy damage from Uncle Lord I like.
And also, I like the mobility around the map with the portal and stuff like that.
time just never dies and I feel like if you've got shadowed even purging in this world it's gonna
be even hot oh my god it's like the gnarlyest beefcaps yeah it really is we're beef maxing
I mean this derg is interesting because it's very early but it is very good against underlord so now
not that you're sort of looking at pulling waves most likely I don't know if you are gonna be
able to win this lane straight up especially with a counter pit coming on 18 so
So, I am not 100% certain what direction they will go.
Navi is no stranger to pulling waves, and that is generally the answer to the
underlying is just don't weighing because it's laying is too strong.
I mean, for Navi, I'm just leaning towards gyrocopter in this position, but you
twice afterburner, trying to stand on the tide a little bit, it just keeps making
your jaw feel good.
But also, you want someone that can, I mean, I know that I was talking with Quinn
backstage actually.
Oh, I'm helping out with him.
He never speaks to me.
I'm sorry, you know it's okay.
So the fascinating conversation we have is that I always think how do you take out the tombstone?
Obviously you could just walk away for sure, but gyro certainly can just go and click it a few times. Why not?
Yeah, definitely very good.
Clearing all of zombies in the meantime is very nice.
And you're also super fast with that actor burner, so you're also great at running away, which is
One of the best tools against a dying is just run away.
He's just a big stink.
Look at all those flies on the ground.
I know, but let's not think you do the stink shame.
Okay, he's done.
So this can last week, you had a couple of lives around him.
We've got it. I'll be real with you.
I haven't been impressed with this hero so far.
Oh, I've been dumped down.
Boom!
Which one do you hate most between the Weaver and the Earth Wink?
Do you mean at the pro level or to play against?
I'm talking to the personal level of the Earth and then what we have.
I don't play Hood Wink.
I do enjoy playing Weaver from time to time.
They're both very annoying to catch and kill.
Okay.
As a support player, we're like a positive player.
Both of these heroes make their life miserable.
But who'd wink? I hate her the most. She's so chirpy about it. We've just an evil dude. I don't expect better.
But she's like, can I make something like that and just...
She's not Australian. I'd like to clarify that.
Sorry, where is she from?
New Zealand.
Okay.
Be careful, Ted. Be careful.
Just pretend to be fine.
What's the difference?
Oh, he's getting mad at me.
He's getting mad at me.
Oh, he's gone.
Oh, yeah, he's gone.
He's gone.
He's gone.
Got him good.
Anyway, with the Australian hood wing, it does provide the break to the tie-tunters, so it's
going to be quite helpful there.
I'm worried it's very specific.
You're picking the hair for that one-spill combination, and we're just how hood wing didn't
really impressed in the last game.
I also don't know if I like weaver against tie-tunner.
I'm not a hunter, I'm not a hunter, I'm not a hunter since you're how to blame goes, but it
looks like tie-tunner will chill.
I think if tie-tills, then you should be pretty good against weaver because it's that
low attack range, so you can anchor smash and relatively easily.
We've got Vlad, so you have plenty of armor on top of the face, but it's like, I think there's a lot of dynamics there that are pretty nice for fighting.
You can't espel the bugs, but like, who cares really?
And then Wind Ranger, right?
You pick the carry.
Wind Ranger, you're protected by the undying.
We even want to be high mode, high mobility, Wind Ranger will match it.
We even can have a right-click and kill the Wind Ranger until much later in his itemization.
So yeah, I think Yandex, I'm just going to be pretty happy, very content, just farming and then waiting for the item timings.
Would I be right in the saying I feel like at the moment the way that the antics are set up?
You come in with ravage, you get the tuned stone down and you're like, we are fighting here.
Now on the Lord has to stand there and try and fight against an undying, who's suffering is strength.
He's getting nibbled away up by all these things.
None of these guys can just stand in a fight.
Like a long engagement, you don't really want to be hangin' about as any of these other three heroes.
It will kind of smushy.
Yeah.
We even heard that's where they took you twice there.
tool kit right now you could go in, poke when these spells and then try and disengage and
take the files where I put describing that it's very hard to do very clean the often
teams will fall short with this style of fight. Yeah and I think from Nico you're looking
for something that rounds it out that can start fights a little bit more, you've got two
range supports, range carry. If you pick another range hero it's going to look a little awkward
so something that's probably some spirit that you go in and out I think like Storm while he
is ranged, is like, that functions like a melee,
or something like that.
That's a bit closer.
That little bit of a catch.
Really?
They are just going to play on the,
I press for average, and then the 10th of the characters
and again, they're depending on the pick,
but they might change as fast as choice,
but if it is going to be like BZM style,
Tundra, invoker, it's just one ravage,
kind of because we've gone.
He ain't going to mana if you get the EMP on M2.
And this is a mana-style line of undload,
That has a shit-manipool.
We've has a shit-manipool.
That's true.
I think, I mean, the next heroes, if they get to the mid game, they're very, very solid together
as it's typical for their lineups, but they're quite slow in the early game.
They don't really have heroes that mesh together that well.
They've got disruption to sun strike, but besides that, it's not too much.
So against weaver, if he actually gets a good start, there's potential for him to
brok it mid.
They can open towers very quickly and the game can bleed a little bit and never get to
that make game structure point.
So you think this is kind of greedy from the end X maybe?
Definitely is.
You think you like you win one, you think we can pick a good one.
Yeah, I see this stuff.
Yeah, I actually heard them say that almost verbatim.
That was their team tool.
Yeah.
Yeah, they should.
Big circle.
Chuckles.
Collective chuckling.
Like a cup of witches.
Is that the plural for witches?
I covered them, yeah.
That's a canoe every day.
But I would like to learn now
So now that he will pick a kick in their sweet time.
Oh, I'm here and take the piss.
The mid-cats, yeah?
I'm intrigued.
I mean, this lane is horrendous for invoker.
Cats has like four quattrelian damage and pen armor.
So are you sure about that number?
I sound like he can just pull and hit every tower on the edge of your back door.
Yeah, he can't. I don't know what people don't do it.
So I think this is a very hipster pick. It's very niku.
I think it fits the theme of wanting to snowball early game, but I think it's another
case of if he reached the mid game, he annexed it would be pretty profitable, so the, uh,
the onus, if you will, is not onus.
I'm just happy that Niku is continuing down this line of, you know, what gives you the
hero?
Like recently, he's has played Ken's mid, he tried to match the game, it didn't work
out here, the Christmas acts amount to game it worked quite well, but maybe he's still
trying to find his footing on the item bill, but now I agree with Quentin,
we're going to have to lean, he should be very happy, and I feel like the last game
he didn't help his team up with the bristle pick and the tranquil build.
This time around he sees his matchup, he's had time to experiment on the
item builds from mid lane, no one really plays mid-case, so I'm hoping he's locked in
like this is my mid-case now, I want to try and you know, punish them in this
best of five.
Look, our panel is talking about his and everything like that in the
drawoff.
But I've got to see you live who can answer all this questions for us.
Amidquez, lost pick, I feel like there has to be some explaining here.
Well, we'd like it against the burger.
So it's one of Nico's favorites here.
He just doesn't get to play that often.
How much freedom do you give Nico and picking his hero when it comes down to that last pick?
Do you have full trust in him?
I do.
And I also remember having been on a team with one of your panelists.
Usually, at mid player, they like to have some kind of authority about their own picks.
It's very much a solo lane, so you know,
the small details very well.
And you need to be in a state where you trust that your player
understands those well and knows how he can make it work.
Yeah.
And I do also want to ask about that first game, right?
We've seen the Marscas matchup happen in the lane before.
But you guys still voluntarily picked up that Mars
knowingcas was in the pool.
Was it a bluff call?
What are you just like, we do have answers to it?
What exactly was Bona?
I remember what I was saying he was not allowed
to get kissed from his coach.
Oh, he liked.
But in all seriousness though, I think it can work, like I think the Jekiro was honestly
also what the striters like fully.
So I don't know, I think you can go both ways, like obviously a kiss, I don't know if it
would say his favorite, but it depends also a bit on the bigger picture I'm opening.
I like it, and that's why I asked you getting all your opinions there, but see why
I think you so much for joining me, and all that answers of questions now answered, we're
going to get into game number two for our best of five.
Well, we've swapped some heroes around, we've moved some things, but one, being in particular
staying the same Avery is a success, shadowed even coming back in game to not be apparently
feeling like there were other heroes that were the issue like the Jekiro.
I was mentioned by C. Y. Avery, is this a massive blunder? Is this a big mistake?
We will find out. I'll say that much. I would not have given this here to them.
I would have rather played against that Chikiro kez rather than give this to him,
which I know was an insane statement to say, but uh, I think that was a more straightforward issue
to solve. Like, Laney, I think is one of the easier things to fix, because you know it's just
picked it from matchups. You can play the lane differently. You can always go pull ways
is that you want to dodge something.
Hero specialist, that's often a lot more difficult to fix.
I think if you wanted to give the SD,
you should have gone for some backline threat
like a Storm Spirit type hero.
They end up with midcats, they have an underworld gate,
and they have weaver, weaver is very good against a hero.
So they did make some nice core adjustments
to try and threaten the SD more in the fight,
which is why they gave it up.
You're just gonna have to execute those,
get on the backline, start directing the sky,
not give him free team fights,
where you can have the same impact
to the previous game.
The tight hunters sneaking around is going to get three bounty runes for Yandex.
He should have banned that.
Oh, I can't believe they knew they were getting three.
And Sox has still said, well, my dear, I'ma get us four.
It's kind of worth.
It goes to Nico here.
So that individual trade isn't really worth it, but
Four Bounty Rins is just it's saying it's you already have three. I feel like I'm a fourth one in exchange for giving first blood to the mid hero
That actually it's mental damage
Psychology of it. No, like we lost all rules does get that that I go. Okay, Nico in his owner. I know on one of the cities
ENA figure matchup
He might go hand here
When the mid-match up, we heard from both si and quinn about how this hero should be able to win.
What about the sidelines?
lanes were a particular problem for Navi and Game 1. Navi should pull against the
Undine, which they are. It should not be a lane you fight the Undine straight up until
at least level 3 to 5. You can even just parmal pull and get stacks up for the
Thunderlord later. It's kind of similar situation up here you do not want to fight the
Warlock weaver early on. At some point I think tide can stand here a little better than
Underlord can stand against winner and drop nine. So perhaps you can get a little
No greedy here on the side of the index with this SD, but very similar situation.
We're going to force socks to lose the creep at least some of the creeps under tier 2.
This is quite the funny standoff mountain like Malik is holding the creep wave in front of the tower.
This is ultimately good for our Yandex so up here.
They are going to win the equilibrium no matter what eventually appear, and there's no pulls available.
So socks that does not mind what's happening right now.
Not the the best they can do is try and pull this wave
Back behind their own to your one and make Malik just tanked the double wave
Which he will pull it down the left. This is so funny
I just pull it in front of the tier one. I think that's what he should do here
No, he did he he's giving the other ring that's odd to me that he didn't pull it in front of tier one because he could have just
Had perfect equilibrium and I that next wave that had the flag bear and what a good really nice value. There's no pulls available again
So
It's still favorable for Yandex's top lane hot worked up, but it's kind of an even more favorable.
So I'm sure I'm trying if it landed, they wouldn't have been able to run down Zion's perhaps,
but as it seems, it misses Watson, gives up on the kill.
Shack a landspot on this isn't a tangled winner, and you're going to be a lot of damage, yeah,
look at him just being chunked down between the combination of the bonus damage off of that level
to a shackle shot with the tangled facet and the fact he's missing strength from the K, bad combo.
You don't want to die while you're playing the way it is. It's just conceiving way too much on the
lane. You're giving freefired enemy carry and then you're giving him kills a top.
Bad news down here in terms of the early start for PMA put in a very rough position again.
Now what you get to do about it though, I mean, he's gone up against some tough lanes
in this series.
Jekiro Kez and now Wind Ranger undying, like I kind of feel for the dude.
Yeah, show him some mercy, fear of Lord.
The eruption into some body-bond here, still no camps available, socks that's just permanently
blocked these out of his or it is his, done his best at the warning.
And he has double centuries kill those centuries and should get one spawn here.
Sox, so only able to block one, he will block the small, but this is tough for a warlock man.
This is a year of the one-stop-hole.
Once to get the extra spawn.
I'm seeing great body blocks there from Zion, it's almost resulted in a kill on Watson,
wants him manage a slip-on through, and still has a lot of region healing loaders and six magic wand charges
and a fairy fire on top of everything else.
shankleshot turn back around on PMA.
But it dropped the tunestone. They're going to deal with the tunestone.
Nice and quick. The sun strike is going to land off with that, though.
So PMA is going to get quite low. They still have a blood grenade.
Watson. It's just got to be careful.
Mind his own HP here, but Zyte's largely out of resources.
Malty drops a blood grenade still going for that kill.
Shackleshot launch on his eyes.
Zyte's going to end up dying. Watson is going to go for both.
Now he win runs chase after PMA.
And the final hit will come through a double for Watson off the landing phase.
Watson has been cooking.
and cooking. He is absolutely in his prime right now.
I haven't seen him play this one on the long time.
He is absolutely just like you said, cooking rules every game.
His stat lines have been insane.
They're playing the safe lane super well over game.
They're picking themselves in a favorable position,
but they are using that favorable position
to extract decent advantages here.
Who's saving themselves up for success?
It's win-reacher, off to a fantastic start.
Transvention that they cut us right up there with it, but that first blood he could
took over this mid lane, he has decimated Jira Junior in CS, 34 in 19 to 13 and 4.
Look what the hell this is, this is like game ending right here, what is going on?
Jira Junior needs Sun Strike Kill, it's just to get back into this game.
He can't even light, and it's like completely one-sided.
Doesn't even want to walk anywhere near this guy right now.
It's a big pressure point for an obvious.
You need to go to this case as much as you can.
The science is trying to find the opening on Cherokee Junior.
It's the push-wack on him. He hits him with the blood grenade.
Me too, tornado goes out.
Me too, still puts some damage on Cherokee Junior.
He's definitely blast trying to push him away with Ravensville.
He's gone now wants in trying to get the revenge on Niku looking good for it too with the focus fire
Niku jumps over to the other side.
We currently still track down by Soxa a zombie following him as well.
Trilliggy dies indeed he does.
That's up TP for Watts in there.
His kez is out of control, but the winner Ranger with an early six, that's a very early
six for a side line. You can get the chase down. Man, this safe lane for Yandex caring so much
of the early game. They're winning their safely and they're trying to turn this mid lane around.
That was the one lane snowballing for Navi. Still lane Navi can go back to this, because
it's mega strong with early Oberkrosion plus burn.
There's safe lanes also going pretty well. We've her free-frying up here. We'll dodge the sunshark.
Get rid of the bug. Malink, oh, that was a perfect timing on the blubber.
They'll enough there instantly remove the bushwack.
These are the tough to bring down this game.
I guess you can get a sharp shooter break into him later.
It might be your best bet or just casualting him down, but he's pretty much immune to the rest of the damage.
the
of that should go man he is a swing
the S.O.E.R.
Yeah, oh
Two level difference between chairs in your Eniku
I'm trying to able to spell I question is what do you do from here as your case, right? You already rotated supports an image just he just like way as drying
I keep chipping away at this mid tower
them, save their safe lane, that Jarod Jr just needs to fully recover, and Malik,
not having a TP.
There's nobody you can rotate, it's only the tide, I guess, who would come in and
ravish them.
He's gating now, but that's late for the party, that's a great connection from
Bobby, taking advantage of the numbers and there are heroes that can connect really quickly.
Didn't even need to catch for that as he can just sit there and take good lane tower.
It's the last hit as well, so two tier ones going down within 30 seconds while put the successful moves should not be in there well ahead of this landing piece
It's gonna be a nasty lead especially with like PMA getting so much of an off of that
He could probably hold the rest of their tier one towers up like
The Andex have not put very much damage at all on any of these towers
to the
tornado, good time there from
sheer junior and even underneath
tier two he's being just constantly
oppressed by Nikus.
Nasty cuz it's just what you're
supposed to do to invoke her.
His puts something there that can
win the lane, take pressure his
tower, and just kick him out of
those early jungle camps.
Zero is terrible recovery.
It takes forever.
To at least till he gets that
You know might as hell hammer whatever it is that item gets delayed. He's just a creep unless you're getting sunstrike kills, which
Haven't really come together here. Are you in to experience or game for the naughty?
Find some holes in the armor
Drop the golem on
It's still gonna take a lot to bring this guy down. He's gonna ravage off with this with a sunstrike. He easily kills I
It's I don't know what the game plan was there because Malik
Like, I don't think you can really kill him with the weaver anyway.
Maybe if you bring a meeku now, that's a little different.
Air is a hero that can actually put damage to kind
through the tide hundreds crack and chill.
A very awkward game.
Those get the job done, you should get the last tier one here.
So, that'll also work out of the enemy.
That's maybe even better, because you get the cousin,
well, you get some more earned charges, gets some more tower gold.
He is super fat.
the
stocks on catch up the bushwag bugs don't actually
only land either way to the man of the
compass kill
this is the naughty
people expected in the series super fast
pace very aggressive
dominating some lanes and just
transition into early map control
don't let you to explain their
stack style defensive game.
Upset the equilibrium early and take that advantage all the way to the bank.
They're, they hold all three top spots here.
And now we'll see, the end X.
I mean, it feels like this is kind of what the series should have been about,
which is not the winning lanes and then the end X with their style.
Kind of holding the game together and trying to stabilize things.
So we'll see at AFE and Dex can accomplish that part.
I can recover here.
Hammer's up for the invoker, the tide is still very strong. You can push waves out.
And the winner danger has that crazy good start. So we're now now for sure.
Just a matter of how much space this kez can occupy.
He's just a menace on the map. No one wants to interact with this guy.
to be able to play super aggressive take space take camps away from the index.
I like on the run.
It's pretty earphone the game is after him.
He knows it too.
The sad part is it's that because the game ends up being very efficient for
not being able to rotate somebody heroes over, but they just go back through the
The gate and they're out on the map again, really not that much space for the rest of the
antics to work with.
Now, I got nothing out of that.
It's just not anything to farm.
Soxas doing his usual camps stacking, but you lost that tier one so early.
This is an easy invade from all of you.
You could just send a weaver in here, he could scout it out.
Limited stunts in this antics lineup to direct off the shoes.
I'm gonna try here.
On A to A, P, Sunstreaks gonna do some damage if it lands instead of the time lapse
goes out and is able to get away now for a little bit of distance they can ravage off
of this.
The silence on this punch on a ravage goes out and we've a will die actually ravaged
with the cast on the side.
Watson.
He catches both riddies in Niko now he go all big turn around though that is going to hurt
a raster dance that gets in the double kill and away he goes a grappling claw away and
out of the hands of Yandex.
Oh, nice little snag there from science to pick up the extra kill on socks as well.
She can get out here, might not be worth it if you give another kill to Watson.
Yeah, but make a better out of it.
I can't really keep Jason when he goes here.
Look at the damage he puts on Malik.
Bushwax, pulling back in Malik Malik, Malik, Malik, Malik, and Malik, and Malik,
and even love from the blubber will not be released from any of these control abilities.
Malik and some trouble, good shackle shop though.
That'll clear things up.
Cez is an absolute menace. He's going to steal their whole ancient stack.
And they got the winner from God. The Jews with his death.
So he's going to show up after taking the wisdom train.
What a shackle shot the old dude.
We had almost led into a kill.
God, the Jews so low.
Still has his ultimate. He'll finish off the undying.
And off the warlock. He'll he'll get away.
What a pity. Son of a.
Are setting right here.
Now.
Beautiful last pick.
It's doing everything for him in the fights.
at the back up of you know underlord plus we're locked for some heals in early horror
this weaver is giving you some extra minus armor surgery this kez is just
ripping this line apart significantly now aka at 14 and a half minutes
not where it invoker line up wants to be I mean Watson is doing his best to pull
something out of nothing here like he is doing work with the winter engine but it's a
winter ageer zero it only really kills people at the focus fire they can only do
so much.
What happens if he's the one who gets ganked?
Oh, a bushwack just a little shy there.
It's not good.
I had a clover confident he was going to be able to land that.
This is his ultimate.
Wandson still trying to run away from Niko off the same damage.
Looks like they'll collect the kill off the Kazurai Katana.
No, no.
I'll blow him.
So, despite the whip, he still did it easy invasion for Navi.
And it's really struggling to stabilize this map right now.
Their heroes are not that great at protecting each other in terms of the three cores, very slow
line them.
You tie 100 Boker Winneringer.
You need ravage for the tide to get involved in Boker has a very slow buildup and lost
the lane.
So it's just not be taken advantage of the long cooldowns here and they can also just do
a very early row shear if they want to just go on the pit with the weaver plus the
thesso.
Like, has good work.
secure an early ages put it on this cousin can get even more aggressive.
They've done a really nice job stealing camps from Yandex.
That is a big component of the matchup of the series.
This ruptured meteor drop on PMA.
Shot hitting Cherich Jr does some damage PMA's not dead yet.
He gets a lot of damage back out through that firestorm.
Not enough to kill Cherich Jr though.
They just do not have enough backup.
It's only science and only riddies just now joining them.
Watson hunting for more.
Compide the bushwack, unable to find an extra kill.
That's effectively a five-man move.
For me, and X, using all their support spells,
you get that other wood-bring, flying heroes to the ox inside
of the map you might as well attempt for Ocean.
Such an easy rocher.
the
left one give this to me to
less than the kind of the surprise to the end
I gave it to God to choose him.
Interesting.
I bought these cores can use it pretty aggressively.
That is for sure.
Just keep occupying these ancient areas.
Don't take your foot off the gas here.
Up 10k.
If you're able to, so, atre loosely, hold triangle.
One of the chances they'd gandex like it isn't even possible for them to keep up.
Stabilize this meant worth.
Got the juice, Nico, hold sneak around the side, you're going to be met with the ravage.
Man is a grappling claw up, Nico dodged a lot, and she'll have a red bat meanwhile, wrapped
Dan's does really hit too much.
Many retreat from Yandex.
Well, tip, mental damage on Malik is his rabbit just did not shape up to be what he thought
it was going to be and he's going to be chased out all the way underneath the tier
threes just no health coming from the team whatsoever.
Is that high ground potentially they've used a lot in that fight.
Still, this ages your deaths are going some sustained and it's too early to go for that
fun.
Stick reaction there for me to getting that grapple off and that everything there otherwise
he can get focused fire down.
It looked wanky as well.
Not even sure he should have got it off.
But that's almost doing kids things.
Yeah, kid, kids and cat animations are so...
What is that?
Oh, small, that he's just able to take, you know,
it's near instinct.
I don't know if that spell should pull you
if you're already stuck.
But it doesn't, so I agree.
What can you do?
I guess.
New heroes, you know?
That's why I'd be the hero of the series of this story.
It's dominating both games.
I feel like there's no way that we see it in game 3 though.
It's fun. You never know.
It got last picked in the game. You don't remember that song. It was high priority here.
That's we've already used building for a got the juice.
They definitely put a lot more pressure on the shatter even in the game.
It's a lot of assassiniers.
Makes you just get to that back line through in his day.
No, that was a good call about the survivor being.
A really good answer to this shadow demon. We've seen it.
Time and time again got the juice.
It's just rolling out there with the Shikuchi running deep into the back lines.
Yandex are not able to maintain the formation that
allowed them to come up the victors in game one.
one. One of the classic SDC.
Evier goes to the botanico.
Here is the catch and steer.
A junior trying to farm up some of these cans.
And it's he way denied.
Apply the underlord.
It's a spiraling completely out of control.
This is all Navi style right here.
As much as game one was the index is placed now.
This is Navi to its key.
It's getting to desperation.
Turn through.
If you're in X, you might just have to try and get
of four five minutes smoke plan with your average in the year 18 flight. You're kind of all
in on randwich canoclism at this point. We have to just assist another 150 gold for
the invoker to get that. So you're going to have your eggs combo. You just finished
your meal and you're this is as good as it gets for the index. Unless you can make something
happen with this kind of timing. They're going to still another wisdom shrine. I'm out
just sitting here watching it. This seems got the juice shows are like, well, I'm not taking
that socks as a free kill. They're up 18k networks, but they're up just as much in levels.
16 level advantage. What? It's the board. Malik's disgusting. Once again,
gonna die and I need the tier 3 it looks like Miku. Okay, now he's not gonna keep going.
the worst damage was this we've just discussed you with the early shard pickup
I'll just keep just over here.
I don't want to hear what are you doing here.
There's this cataclysm ravaged dream right now.
We'll probably see them go for it.
Just a pages for 30 seconds.
Brian installed, got the juice.
He's just going to hit the tier 3,
Sports reaction out of the end actually with 15 seconds so the wind rangers back up
I got that James is gonna lose his ages here in a couple more shadow poison hits into case ban
Try to pop it and then kill in the second time
By more second for the ages is down. He's got it back up with the region kick in maybe the shadow poison stops it actually
Up the shadow poison. No, didn't get popped
and
so much for the best when they're a shadow demon in the world
that's a big deal that's a very big
and
while there goes your ravage cataclysm if they find here junior first
your one percent chance at a team fight win become zero
So they're just gonna have to chill out for another 35 seconds, which means Navi perhaps another poke at the high ground here.
Oh yeah, you just keep going, there's nothing.
I'm threatening you and Disky, other than that combo.
There is a blink for the tide.
You know what I'm trying to smoke?
Gotta try and haul in.
Nico here, that's kinda your only play.
Five more seconds. You can make the initiation anytime.
But now...
See what he can hit goes for the Kez!
Cataclysm out and take the whole man! That's just not fair!
That's not fair! You can't do that! You're not allowed to do that!
You're not allowed to just wrap your dance and dodge the full combo! That's broken!
Easy to give him the smileies!
Somebody call the right home.
That's actually the small thing.
I'm gonna give that a cycle.
It's got the incase here.
I was just broken.
Oh my god.
That was...
That was their one chance.
The shackled didn't land.
He dodged his cataclysm damage.
As his built-in mantle bullshit.
That is kez to a T.
Not the absolute.
There was nothing going for her.
He had to exist game 2.
There was nothing going for it.
and game one, so it's just gonna become a BO3,
where both teams have sawnt the other,
in a very decisive game.
I like this is gonna be similar with how that safe lane
was going for the end,
cause I still think that's an issue not to be sure to trust,
but they definitely fixed a lot of the problems
from that game one, they had the back line assassinators
for the SD, they had way more aggressive cores,
they got a beautiful last bit counter-vatchup
for this invoker bit, that is a matchup bit.
We are not gonna see it again,
cause I was extremely one-sided
and he could play it perfectly.
He's ran away with the game.
All right, well, this is going to
crazy one-sided series, but somehow it ends up
even one-one in this best of five.
Yeah, it might be even in terms of just how quickly
they're ending the games and how the school line is now one
and one in a best of five.
But it feels pretty unfair and one-sided when we look at
necrotty and this, we're just at a style on them
in both in-game and in old chat.
I respect that.
I like the drop in a little ol' chat a little bit of sauce.
And I mean, he played a saucy game.
He was all over the place.
He was silent on and got the Kai Yasha first.
It looks super good.
This is like what I like to see from him.
And I think what I'm looking for
and more of these games where he gets his special pick
and it actually works.
And he pops off and kind of cares the game
because he's the 17 year old.
That's how he should be playing.
Absolutely.
That's what you want to see.
I don't know if I just want to say,
we've got ourselves an all-fishing kiss off.
Oh, it's been a while.
Why is that every best of five somehow seem to have one hero?
It's like a razor series of the vibe to series now. We got that cast series
Oh, it just just banned kids and let's have a whole fashion game three when I would do a dish
I don't know that was that was pretty genius
It was like it was extremely nice
We're planning it so I'm not you'd be like, oh, come on. It's a bit like it's smiley
It's all the devil as well
This is the I guess a joy watching Navi's like what version of Niku are you gonna get you know
You're going to have the bristle from the last game or from the kids story from this game right like you get all these extremes
But yeah, for no of he they had a much kind of mobile rounded lineup. They got this big count to pick and you know
We said to the index they were greedy right and yeah, maybe people questions
I think it actually be aggressive enough to break them down. We got the answer
Yeah, I don't know like C. I was a little bit meaming in that coach interview
I did with him when he's like well, you know
I've been with a couple of mid-laners at my time,
but he really, truly did trust Niko
and knowing this matchup like the intricacies.
And he was able to shut down the invokeer
because Yandex put a lot of stock into them,
mid-invoke, being able to come online early
with that Catholicism and having a massive team fight.
Yeah, I think in the end of the day,
if you're saving mid for last pick,
when I come down to the end of the line,
the rest of the draft is kind of a team matter.
We'll pick this, this works with that well.
But when you come down to the end, I agree.
I think you just let the guy who has the last pick
Pickest hero, because he sees all the variables,
he understands it well, and he knows what is good
for his hero, and Niku most definitely did.
I'm just impressed.
I honestly didn't know if Navi had an in him to play this fast.
After how shaky they look game one,
how trounced they got in lanes, they fix the problem well,
and in terms of game play, they weren't shaking at all,
and that's what I'm impressed by the fact that getting
just absolutely smacked game one.
They didn't crumble at all, and they were like,
now we're still good, we just like grief the draft,
and it's like all chills.
And the most catch you can see is good for the Ashakai build.
I think that's the double check in the lobby, but you do get the wrapped-a-dance buff earlier.
When you have the Ashakai, you might have questions that actually apply to the atonable
but it does.
So you are able to get that deep off immunity a little bit quicker.
And of course most of his spells are kind of like based on cost point.
So I think there are very niche times where Ashakai makes sense.
And in this game where he has the early Ashak, and just constantly moving forward, why not
buy the item.
I also feel like if you're going to pick a mid-like invoker who wants to get items and farm
and levels and stuff. If your answer is here, they're just going to run people down
for early on. You send the tempo right there and they pick big problems for the endics.
But that's what they did in the game one. Just ran Navi down. It's nice to see the flip
room. Yeah, I do wonder how both teams might try and find a balance then because it's like
the first game, Yandex ran the Mova, went to greeting game two, game number one. I wouldn't
necessarily say Navi was greeting their own right, but they were just playing slower and then
And they're able to pick up that tempo.
So now is it going to be what we were describing
our previous best of five as like just two grams running
their head to each other?
I mean, I think that is possibly the case.
I resonate with what Ted said a little bit.
And then I think this invoker is too greedy and too slow.
Like I think, yeah, next day I've already
got a very slow carrier player.
Watson is very, very skilled.
And he's going to own the game to go as later.
But you want to give the guy some time.
Invoker is kind of sit around blob man.
I press sun strikes.
I think your junior is suited best on stuff like the Beast Master.
can play if you're they can open up the towers gives them another melee beefy boy because
their supports have been playing a lot of rain supports recently and see if you want that
melee mid you want that dude who can go in and enable the rest of your lineup this game
they don't have that they have some afk farming bot buying meteor hammer like it's is a
vocal here is also just kind of trash ever since they don't don't bite us admittedly
not we did do well in the drafting for that right because they're into drop and end two
bands were beast and slaughter the two that your archetypes here just talk about that but does
Was that force an invoker pick?
No.
Probably not.
I guess they try to pick something I said.
I don't know what the community is.
I think the answer is, is it they're like, oh, they're banning fast here.
Let's pick a slow hero.
I'm not sure.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah.
But I mean, also you talk about invoker.
I'm dying.
It's just over here that you need to, like,
you don't crush lanes on undying.
Just when I get me 20 minutes.
It's like old school daughter with that's the way you play.
I think undying to me is like the saving here.
You play on the charred late to run.
You need to have a good lane, but a reason to have it later.
And I've obviously made it on the clockwork,
and he's like random initiating here as well.
Like the only job mid-do, and I think you're on Dying,
has no playmaking moves over the suit.
Yeah, unless they like gigacrush lane,
got three items each, and then dictated the game on ravage.
Okay, so, that's all?
A little bit of tacticalism, sorry.
They're not really doing anything else.
They're just waiting for a mistake from the other.
Yeah, I mean, I also think they need better answers for this underlord.
like we've seen this year, time and time and time and time and time and time and time and
time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.
Just turn him it where he just farms and then eventually comes in with the oras and he
like acts pits you from across the map and like roots you they hear us too many tools he
farms too fast and if you aren't like stamp eating over him then he will just eventually
catch up and win the game so to me this era either is to be very hyper-ready or they
need to come up with answers for it because Earth's been, Razor's been, Fypers' been,
you gotta find some new or you gotta be first pickin' this thing.
Yeah, I feel like it's actually two years.
We said it was Canada that might be dictating this best of five,
but the undelod also needs to be thrown into that conversation,
which will resume just after this break.
I'll play it still having a little bit more of a break there because we're looking at getting
into a game number three pretty soon between Navi and Yandex both having one side of
the fairs when it comes to the game which evens up our series and while they're having
their debriefs and resetting for what is going to be hopefully a closer game three
oh we're gonna play some games on the panel we're playing a round of Dota 2 celebrity heads
Are you okay today?
Huh?
Yeah.
I'm drinking.
Okay.
Stop.
I can't feed you from the panel, but I can't give you a cue card.
Now, on the other side, I'll give you an example like the other day.
We had a tunnel envy.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
It's just yes, no questions.
And we try not to do the, do I play off-lane, do I?
So doing other questions?
I can do it, bro.
But if you get super stuck, you can ask that.
Wait, am I the one doing it?
I would do it.
Do you want someone else to stop?
I hope it's up I'll see it on the Moon.
Yeah, there we go.
Is that really way up?
Yeah, that's the perfect way out.
Okay, can I take this thing?
I'll get it all the way.
Have I ever wind an international?
Yes.
Have I won more than one international?
No.
That's a good question.
Do I have a mustache?
Yes.
Really?
Yeah, we just got facial hair.
Yeah, my, oh, mom.
Yeah.
I'll see the only mark that I wouldn't believe you all
impressively for it.
I played a lot of guess through.
I'll definitely, like,
literally, you'd better think.
I'm good in this.
I mean, that might rival because yesterday when
team played, he was very good at it.
So you're going to prove something to him here.
Okay.
I can hand you a copy.
But at least do you think you think a card?
I think that was one.
Yeah.
Flip it over.
Flip it over.
Turn around.
Yeah, perfect.
Okay. Don't steal my question.
Okay. Well, yeah, you can see this, guys.
Is he over six foot tall?
I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know.
Okay. Great.
Is he toxic in pubs?
Probably not.
I've never heard of him.
He's so cool that anyone else.
Yeah.
Oh, stand up.
He's so good at it.
Okay.
Okay.
I think really I ask you questions, be fair.
That's all right.
Does he have facial hair?
I think he does now.
I think he does now.
Okay.
Is he from Europe?
Yes.
Is it correct?
It is not.
No.
I'm lucky.
Was he at this tournament?
No.
No.
Oh, no.
So you're more players now suddenly.
I think you might want to ask a few questions.
What was that one?
I forgot it's question. I'll be honest. I just has here the one in it. Oh, yeah, everyone in fashion. Yes. Oh
There's a down. Oh
Do you remember the whole
Yes, yes
Okay, um
Remember my full question
No, I don't I would be unique
Oh, man. I basically just between
To the sub-notail hall
Yeah, is it no tell?
Yes, go back
I'll read back questions.
Your hands are green.
No, I feel I could have narrowed it down.
I think you did.
That's all right.
All right, Queenie, it's your turn.
Want the second one?
There it is.
I don't know.
Is this face up?
Yep, that's perfect.
OK.
Yep, all right.
Am I here at this tournament?
No, no.
Am I a professional player?
Yep.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Am I popular?
Post.
This question.
Yes?
Could be more could be more popular could she could and people to talk about you more popular am I me
God you can be near
Okay, I mean is a great question. I retired. No, no
Am I on a tier one team? Yes, but I'm not here no
Um, um, I'm from Europe.
Yes.
Yes, so it's over here.
Okay. Um,
Am I from you?
Where is he?
Oh, yeah.
He's no.
He's the same team here in the gym.
Oh, no.
So I thought you were meaning as a team.
Okay.
Am I North American?
No.
No.
Am I Chinese?
No.
What the heck?
Uh, what's going on with you?
Come on guys.
Uh, am I a Southeast Asian?
No.
Where is he from?
Maybe just do all the good things.
Yeah.
I feel like that's going to narrow down way more.
Okay, I have less ambiguous answers.
Um, am I a core player?
Yes.
Um, I'm not as advanced.
I'm not from any of those.
Who the heck am I?
Am I a T.I. winner?
Yes.
Am I Anna?
No.
Um, what's the base?
I think you might need a little help, so we're going to bring in two people to help you out here.
Whether it's for the good or not.
We're going to bring in a cap and avery as well.
So for more of the same, you know.
No, they could maybe give a clue each if a cap will start with you if you want to give
a clue.
Uh, he is a multi-TI winner.
That's a good one.
This terrible, terrible clue.
better players you played with him.
And most of the time, we know that you played with.
That isn't permanent.
I asked what?
And he is significantly better than you ever were.
That's he.
Well, he won 2TI, so.
He only took him to town.
When I played with was...
Sneaky.
Lye?
Eh.
What other took him to town?
Did he want his role?
Yeah.
Offline.
What?
What?
That's...
I feel like I gave him the man's entire career history.
I think you did too.
What?
Did you play it on an NAT with you?
Come on.
All right, Cap.
No, one final clue.
Nail in the coffin.
Like, what else does you have?
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
I win her.
There's only so many of them.
You played with them.
Oh, 33 of them.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I wish I won't be here.
All right, thank you, Carpanay,
for so much for the help.
As always, I wish there was more time for us
to get to talk to you.
But Quinn really needed that help a long
and that move along there,
because our plays back in their seat,
they don't want to see anyone
dare to to celebrity head instead.
They just want to get straight into the draft.
We got to have a lot of fun in the break and catch up with tapping.
Even we got a little bit play, a little bit of dota to celebrity head.
Whilst the play is, well they were slogging away thinking about what exactly they wanted
to be able to draft for themselves.
What isn't left in the pool, that razor-erso chin on the Lord SF and tree.
So I feel like that Earth's a Ben coming out did prompt the underlaw to also be taken out there.
Let's take a look at the Jekiro who's been a bit of a powerhouse.
So far.
And they get the frog man.
Yeah.
Frog man on the Nave.
Did you say that game is called Celebrity Head?
Who came up with that name?
Somebody who is feeling a little spicy, just a little bit, for right here.
I mean, the larger can lick the Chikiro stuff off, I guess it's, I guess that's their idea.
It's all flying Largo.
Chikiro slow damage, Largo is slow heal.
So far they've already played it for this from 4 and 5 in the graph edge.
Again, I feel like due to Navi's kind of brilliance on the hero in the last couple of days.
You could assume that maybe it gets promoted to a flame book.
Again, if PMA hasn't been playing in pubs, you don't really want to throw your off lane on a hero.
kind of niche in regards to like the farm patterns stuff but yeah so far
only support for Navi okay good to know then if it's a port tonight it's another
one of the situations where I'm like why I guess like Warlocks in the pool if
you wanted to pick a support so in fact they pick a logo here is like a little
peculiar but I mean it's not the end of the world I do have another peculiar
question did Navi just really prefer second pick because this is three games in a
a row and extra fast. I have not seen the priority any of the drops.
Yeah, it's just, I mean at some point now we would have had two of course. Yeah.
Pitch out of the second pick themselves. Again, with, um,
with Navi taken second pick, I feel like they, if they can utilize how they got
Kensington and Boca, like they try to bristle with the B, so it's been two games in
a row that Niku has seen his matchup picked his hero. It failed, then it worked. So
the assumption is they aren't relying on Niku to be like the X factor in these games.
Why are we down on the frog? I think he's looking good so far.
I'm not down on the frog.
I'm just playing.
I'm just playing.
I'm in a cool frog.
I can't get the axe.
That's nuts.
So that's not the idea of doing that.
I'm definitely in the support.
That's just...
That I'm not such a big fan of.
Yeah, that's what the question mark comes at.
And sometimes as well,
if you're playing the call logo,
and the end of the team is just foster at playing the game,
you're not really going to get to the axe.
critical point where you're like I'm doing things he's looks that's such a great
hero model look at his little so cute his head's on a mission is beautiful
in the full lead through the mountain yeah that's so good I love his little friends his
friends are the best part of the little funny guys there at the orbital yeah it's a
great great design well done well there should be more cute characters I feel like
there's like like all these scary characters and like chads and stuff like I
want some I want some more cute stuff yeah give me some cute characters sure why not
I don't know, I don't know what they're looking for next phase.
It's hard to tell because the logo is quite ambiguous.
If it's supported, then the underlord, which did pick out the phase last time, is banned.
They kick over something like the Kez, if they want to flex it, they can go for the Mars,
if they want to ban the Kez, they have some options.
But you definitely need to do better in the lane against the Chiquero needed last time.
I think that's the biggest prerequisite is you need some either ability to pull the waves,
but it's hard to get Chiquero, so you kind of have to lane straight up and just bite the bullet.
Yeah, and the end of the planet, the Earth, so we were going to put Malik and PME have the same
hero pool to some degree, so the fact is they're going to take it that far.
Now obviously then take the Viper, so I feel like they were trying to protect the open pick
offlander here, like the random tides of whatever's, but the fact that Malik and the Viper
are now going to threat in the end, that's the ability to try and go for the kind of the beefy
offlander pick that Malik would have want to go for, at least in this position.
because they pick something like AA here or is it just two flimsy, you couldn't push
your cure to like a four and I think like that I personally hate picking AA when they
eat only a couple of here. You're gonna pick a much later on paper yes but the
traffic can be punished very quickly like the OG series they pick AA and then the
whole zoo cannot them. Has Mars looked particularly impressive so far because I
feel like I've seen him a couple of times and it's I think it's kind of
dependent on landing everything just right I don't know if he's I mean have you
watched me play against his because that might be the issue yeah yeah very good point
now I mean I mean cool yeah I don't know what I got the juices uh are they
trying to make the cans pick out somehow they've got an answer to it I don't know yeah
we had that question for Navi and they lost very quickly I'm all to be
Maybe that's the way I did talk about how he thinks it is an asteroid forward as a
Mars kez bad interaction. It's very dependent on the supports that are added to the lane and the
Chikiro kez combo is where it really kills him.
And also, know, the dog of the juice has not played a competitive game on kez as a fiat. Again,
with new heroes, he might just be slow to want to play it and then he's not played it in pubs,
but still, again on record, he hasn't played it, carry. So maybe yeah, next is hoping that's the case.
Yeah, I mean, sometimes you call their bluff, right?
We saw Liquid, and they're serious earlier today.
Leave the hot scar despite the fact that they had voiced for it.
Maybe one of those situations.
I'm not saying anyone besides Falcons played this year, I think.
We've got to the land phase.
Yeah, seen him banned a few times, but maybe that was against Falcons,
because they were banning it.
Yeah, that was like banning against Falcons.
No, I really like ringmaster, just for the cutting potential,
with a scapegoat.
And then of course, you just have lots of little ways to fare people,
control your ultimate, and then,
or top of that you've got larga with move speed and hell.
So if this is your support, you know, they are going to keep buffing calls to remove speed
and to have a bit of the hills and magic resistance.
It is very fun, but you need to have to be buffing the correct heroes that want to be buffed
up. So DK Viper with items can be the heroes, but I am worried that Navi, it's a bit slow
to get online.
Also at Enokwin, outside of Falcons, Plain Ringmaster and all of Blastland, it's only
mouths who played twice. Otherwise all of the ringlost games have been on that team.
The outside of Falcons. And now this is the first time we're seeing another team pick it up.
Hmm, interesting. I wonder what the rationale is then because I don't, I mean, they have a lot
of magic damage against the box, just go against the magic damage.
They have clingspicked, very good against Viper. I think it's good against the support
as well. You have giga burst damage and their lockdown is honestly not that amazing. It's a
It's a carry DK, so he's not buying blink early.
He's not that sort of catching threat really early on.
So you'll have plenty of free reign and Jekiro clinks is not
in one of those lanes that they just spam you into oblivion.
It's so miserable.
Man against this crap.
This crap.
It is.
The Jekiro here is crap.
They need to, like, everyone's like, they took Pango and they just gave them
minus 10% win right, put them into dumpster, six feet under.
And you want that to happen, Jekiro?
Like, he's got two next, like you can break one of them at least.
So, which aspect of him, because for me, the cooldowns on his spells seem very low.
But for you, is it the double attack there's the problem?
It's like, is it just everything?
He does, yeah, he has good stats. He lanes really well.
He's timing bullies pretty much any here in the game outside of dispel.
You didn't match your fire by level 3, you look at fire, and then you start taking towers.
So, you're kind of like a walking teleport.
Anywhere you go, when you have 4 points in it, towers are difficult.
Maybe the two ones.
I think some heroes also benefit more from block grenades.
That item has changed go to more than to be any other item in like the last five years.
Really?
And heroes that abuse it well tend to just be better heroes.
Even though it's quite subtle, it gives you so much more kill for it.
I think the game fundamentally changed when block grenade was added.
You have kill for it.
Oh, left them right.
Because before that, it's just like you saw them a little bit.
Now you saw them a lot and it gets so many more hits in.
It totally changes the threshold of kill dynamics.
I should start buying blood grenades.
Oh, tech area.
Don't buy too many, you'll upset the other support.
I'll buy as many as possible.
I'm all.
Should they have more than just a two stack limit?
Quarter, quarter the market.
Yeah.
Yeah, I should just buy them all, really.
I don't know.
So we, I didn't think we ever really.
We might get one at the start for first blood, and then we give up.
You can not just give up.
You can not just give up.
You're teammates.
Nice.
The end-ex need the Cher Junia mid-hero.
And to be honest, it just needs to be the playmaking.
I don't say simple sounds kind of come descending, but it needs to be the simple area.
Like the earth's for the tiny end-bother.
The half me go in. Like, that's how he thrives.
The issue is you're against the Viper.
Yeah, exactly. So that hero poiser is a little sad.
You don't think this could be like offlane Viper.
The lights are for shadowing the next pick.
It could be.
That's not good.
Oh, it's gone.
No, you know.
Anything they still need that, even though they have Mars, who also can blink initiate, stun.
I don't think it's mandatory.
Really?
Really?
That is quite creative, I've gotta say.
But to be fair, we already mentioned that Navi needs a bit of time to get on the lane.
So this is a very different aim in that regard.
But what happens if Viper and DK move around the lanes,
around the lanes and no suddenly.
But you can't just catch again to the mid-thing, right?
I mean, it's just saying.
But DK could technically go off and...
Yeah, he could go off and he could go off and he could go off and he could go off and he could
get a blink.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No matter what.
Yes.
This is kind of a big cone as move saying.
We lost with the invoker last game, but you know, it's not a problem.
If you want to catch me again, then it's so be it.
Like I actually respect this from CJ and I think.
Oh, yeah.
Something.
What are you?
Something.
I understand he's terrible, but I love this hero.
Why do you love him?
He's not terrible.
Why do I love him?
Yeah!
Because he's a look at him.
He's a jolly.
Okay, so the persona of Compton you love.
Yeah, and he's fun to play.
By gear of him.
He's fun to play.
How do you feel about RUM?
The RUM is cool.
I don't like it in real life.
Oh, yeah.
Just sweet.
Yeah.
Well, even wait, now if you're going to utilize that RUM quite nicely.
Yandex is damaging again in a little bit lackluster.
Mars was set up and everyone else was set up.
If you do get that, you know, the problem to the lads, you're going into middle fights and looking at you.
Try killing anyone.
Like you've got Viper's hard skill, DK's hard skill on their own.
You've got the safe from Ringmaster, you've got the heel from the frog.
All right, he's not cool frog, but he's still pretty good.
And then you've got Rumba on top.
Good luck.
I mean, they're going to have to utilize the controller and focus.
And then pretty much wait for clings to get the deso, the data, the axe, then they will rip through them.
But I feel like, now we have kind of concocted this timing as a team.
team that they can play on all these buffs and stuff that you're mentioning.
Yeah, I mean, it is the wax invoker as well.
I'm curious to see how this lane goes.
He's flying on the ENP as opposed to the forward spirits.
It matters a lot for the the landing and if invoker loses lane on class with that hero, it becomes
a gigantic burden.
So if the lane goes a little poorly, we could see, uh,
because the another useless AFK hammer invoker.
I do want to put out the PSA as well for those watching at home.
Yeah, players are sitting in the dark of having a bit of a light issue, so as much as they used to this in their home setups
We don't necessarily want that happening on stage. So the game is it's gonna be paused for a little bit while we fix those issues
And nothing gives us way more time to get to talk about the draw often what we could foresee for a game through hopefully a more even game 32
Oh, okay, what kind of good do you go in this position like
How are they gonna make him work? Do you go for the playmaking group who gets like blank eggs and shit like no?
Oh no.
Yeah.
What about that?
All right.
Get into your fendard, Quinn's the whole family.
That's the gesture.
I'm not idiot.
Two steps back, all right.
Let's start with a blade, no.
All right.
I'll wait for the hero.
They want to spit at you.
Now the blink.
Bam.
Now, yeah, exactly.
And then you actually come out yourself.
And then you get to blink, nobody can catch
these swippered little snakes.
What?
It's just a mark.
Did you get it?
You don't need that.
What?
You blink, actually.
There's no way they can get away.
What about if they press the rules?
But then you blink at you.
Do you always quit?
They wouldn't do that.
It's unsporsing.
That's true.
Then you just park where they're used.
You're all washed up.
Thanks, yeah.
I fully am.
So what do you get on him?
Blade Mill.
And then you could debate if actors
relevant for the game.
That's kind of the default build.
But I think AC, BKB, just more things to just
kind of buff your team.
Sometimes you can go, you know,
pipe or crumbs in front of the game.
But it's Blade Mill into something to enable the team.
They look kind of cool in the dark like it doesn't look like this.
This is almost like the game will plan before and where it was guessed the dough to
here. Now it's guessed the dough to play.
We just have to try and guess who that is. Don't look at the names on the top left.
They're like entrauded in the abyss.
Who is that? That's PMSP.
Oh, is that Niku?
That's got the juice?
Yeah, that's a bit funny.
Yep.
Balladet.
Yeah, that's what the juice. They were the bounce back. They didn't give us that feeling it
It's cool
It's not really, it's a little scared to be feathers
He's tall enough that what little light there is still a glance. Oh, that's actually known like it. That's kind of awesome
I mean the crown look at the crown. Oh
No, I didn't.
I had a crowd on scared of the dog.
Cause this is spooky.
They're singing like Christmas car.
We need a hammer to the left real quick.
There we go.
That helping out.
Now if you can all stand up, make you wait.
Do that.
Look at focus the lights into a beam.
Yes.
It's like Archimedes Mirror.
Lineed one player.
See if we can burn a hole in their monitor.
What?
That's what Archimedes Mirror what?
I see.
I don't know if it was a real weapon, but in mythos, it is anyway.
The idea was that you could harness the power of the sun,
focus it into where you like a magnifying glass,
and you could burn ships on the way into the hob.
Oh, of course.
I've been when I ever played Agile Fellowship.
There's a unit when you play one of the Egyptian gods,
and it's a crocodile with that mirror on top of it,
and the way that he attacks is the harnessing the sun, right?
Of course.
It's super cool.
I literally saw someone looked at the mirror,
they looked at a crocodile and they're like, yes.
I think he's gonna be a natural photographer.
Yes, friends.
I thought you liked the posture to use the lesson there.
I feel like that's an idea for the next doughty here.
A boy, a bearer crocodile?
I'm going to be in an article and say like, it's a plethora of different tools and it's like
a...
Look at inventor.
Yeah.
So he was like a king with a king.
I was like a king with a king with a king with a king with a king with a king with a king.
I thought he just put Archimedes in.
That'll be like actual historical figures.
Yeah, because he's real.
But you don't use real?
You don't have a capital to pay.
That'll be very real.
Yeah.
I'm going to pitch again my idea for a full support here,
called Cecil.
That's cool.
OK, Cecil is pure support.
He does one damage with his right.
OK, that's the cut-up.
OK, yeah.
And he runs around with a tiny tray of refreshments.
Yep.
And his old is he burrs into the ground.
You cannot get him.
He can't do anything.
I'm talking to the guys.
He's completely unsolvable.
And he just buffs up the team and runs around
and brings people things.
But OK, I thought you had a different direction.
Because I thought you're going to go with the guy who actually
does a million damage, but he has like one move Steve.
No, I mean, if you keep your job as to keep chasing the entire game.
And if you ever get, let's end the game.
The double zombie in Zomboy.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's like the whole thing was like, would you take a billion
styles for this?
Yeah.
Exactly.
See, you're the snail in the game.
But they're much less hit them.
They can never respond.
That's the assault from the game.
I mean, I have thought about here
who has an ability that can instantly kill the entire enemy team,
but it's one shot.
I think you might hear for the rest of the game.
Your Cecil. In fact, nice.
Cecil, I'm fine.
What's he give up enough refreshments?
Yeah, get the ability to just.
Oh.
But you have to kill him and sit and come again.
Hmm.
Cecil a bit more.
Hmm.
Would you like some drinks?
He's like a buttlet type.
Yep.
Can I sit?
Are he spells like the different...
I was used to have you thought about the different refreshments that you would give him?
It has to be tea.
Perhaps a cup of tea.
Of course.
Sometimes.
Something like that.
Okay.
It's to refresh you.
Right.
I just thought maybe you would have been a bit of...
No, we want to play.
Maybe like some paté.
Yeah.
He's got a close with various things under it.
You're all looking at me and that's probably
because you're wondering what exactly is happening
with these tech issues.
Well, like I said, sometimes issues
that are not going to result themselves
and so while the game is paused,
even though we've completed our draft,
we're going to go to a break.
Of course, as soon as these lights come on
and the game is ready to resume,
we'll come back and give you all the action
for the specified game three.
the
well-come back everybody as we continue this best of five between
non-ve and team and it's we're currently on game three series being
tied up one to one which is kind of what we wanted to see I mean we're
trying out this new format best of ice out the entirety the playoff
send uh we've only had one three oh so far every and even that uh was that
liquid oj went to the third game it was very very close very back and
forth between those two teams kind of proves that the competitive scene is pretty even right now.
100% always teams are very close to each other just depends on who comes in playing a little
better on that day, a little better drafts, maybe lanes a little better, gets off to a faster start.
I can mean all the difference in making these games look very one sided even though it's decided
by small differences.
It's interesting that the next one back for this invoker, they got just so destroyed in that game, too.
It will not be up against the kez this time, but it still shows you their confidence in the hero and what it can do for them as a team to go back to it after getting blown out so bad.
Do you think that Navi was tempted to go for the kez? Why didn't they? Why didn't they offer the conka instead?
I didn't think about that. I'm not sure. When you own him that hard, why not just run it back?
What is the downside? If it just wins you the game off the lane alone, it does maybe mean
to have to swap this Viper around which they didn't want to do.
Yeah, maybe it was the M-A-Honda comfortable and playing off lane Viper.
Yeah, it's not really his style. It's not how the team likes to play. So I guess I can
kind of understand if that point. Nico might say I'm going to beat the sky with the Viper anyway,
which is probably true because your Viper got insanely good block as well.
So this is bad news for Chirriture. It was not going to be a fun early.
See what's for him?
See, Miku is just challenging Chirriture every single time he steps up.
Should be able to get some free CS though, Chirriture, Jr. sneaks one away from him.
So we'll see how that make match up unfolds and not expect and see any kills anytime soon.
what about the side length with the expectation between these
mantras.
Another extremely strong safe lane from the index against double
melee. So this is going to be another plain for
off-eat down here just try to not feed this clink's
jacquiro. And I think the index off-lane is also pretty
strong here against the dragon knight. It's not really that
scary at a lane. You're not really worried about getting
run down, but a wink Mars generally pretty strong. So like
The mechanics are favored in both the sidelines, even if the mid is not going to go the way with this invoker, getting kind of dunked on again, especially with some of the early landing.
And we did see when the index is able to win those sidelines, how they can run away with the game, especially considering the outcome of the game too.
It feels like landing phase is going to be so important in this matchup.
100% maybe the midline more important though to me like if me can replicate any of that
advantage or pressure he was able to create with the kez with this fiper
you can see not be just go to him and try to slowly get open through that midline
there to targets attack there's a first flood easy run down for the dragon knights
and ringmaster dangerous land they get that very important drink it over for the
Master though, he got the fun house near the worst of the 30.
Not super useful here in the early year.
Cousupriser ruled they had a rune down with a bootless dragon knight.
I'm gonna go ahead and win.
Nice little find for them.
Into gets old's man inferned.
Yeah, he's completely out of it.
Not that the Viper necessarily needs it.
is right clicking you and having grossed skin is also good enough to make this successful
trade to PMA. Final hit in trying to walk off of the trees. Valid goes from the dive.
Oh, hit's up on the toward. He's going to die. PMA. He lives and gets the kill on
Jekira. What a clutch move there. The tree being planted and then into the torrent
fantastic stuff. Smooth moves from this double Bayley off lane that you know, how
hard these guys got destroyed without Jekira on game one and now they're finding some extra
kills pulling the wave, and doing completely fine, especially after that.
Validie back on his signature hero, but he's not getting the same amount of work done.
Get baited.
Still will be free for him for Watson, and it's a pretty good playing scheme, can definitely
I'm sure it's some of these heroes.
Well, I think we're having no mana like this.
I'll be against any Boker who did go that the wax build, the tornado and EMP people.
And what is the point of going this fast?
What do you want of it?
to
some people really like this
acts
to
be
on the damage of an opponent fight
i i personally don't think it's stronger than the cat but if you have to go the
cost-wex for early-even
leaning
you know that it's probably the better option
it's kind of hard at the start of that are on this facet like the
like a that a mp can be really
ability to maintain pace of the pool and it's definitely annoying, especially in light
game scenarios where we're trying to cut things out by a certain margin. That part of
it's nice so it could be more about that for the axe, but I always feel like I see
the info for no the axe anyway. I've been really seen in the build. Maybe there's one
out there. There used to be a witchblade build. There used to be orchid builds. That's a build.
There used to be a lot of builds for Squashwish, but all of them have just disappeared.
The battle.
He's happening in his top lane.
Both duo is able to get kills off of their combination.
He's trading back and forth.
A C and P burn out on Niku that'll limit him being able to do a whole lot just as a mango to work with now.
So, Chirid Jr will start to hopefully be able to recover some of this CS.
He's not that far behind compared to what happened in last game.
He's basically even.
as Niko has to invest in some extra region.
He's doing way better than last game.
And he can't really do worse than that.
I don't even hear.
Keep you coming in.
I'm sorry.
Soxa trying to, is he trying to match Riddies rotation?
Like he knows Riddies is making a move here?
He's out of the wise.
It feels like trying to make a move
this early on the, the biper, doesn't seem really warranted.
Ziya's getting needs some help here, PMA.
It's the torrent on socks that slow him down that might have just been enough the last dual breath.
Take it away at him. He's going to go ahead and just kill himself the catchy lick and pop it.
He only sound will be fine.
This bell's always nice against Chikiro, moving their worth here. Don't get the chase down even with the early boots.
And in the shape.
His signature junior.
Nice room for him as his fight for six is always a decent kill threat.
That's why he invested in these mangos. He wants to look for it, and the reason probably all these supports are around mid or now
But I don't think he can go for this. The resources are way too high on this of Orker, especially with shielder and he has defensive capabilities. This is not the same X-word broker from last game
Much tougher target to commit on, especially with T.P. support can come through
Count the Jews to tank him up his tower really wants to put the pressure on with this deep wagon
to year and Watson is not able to bring anybody quite enough a little bit too greedy out
of Gandex trying to get too much on both sides.
Very aggressive move considering the lane didn't really go malice way earlier, he does
he's not the same little 5 or 6-chic hero as we saw in that previous game.
Vipers, just so strong around these early objectives, very tough hero to fight into, let's
ship overall the damage and this clanks I really like clanks as an answer to
Viper it feels like one of the few heroes that actually threatens this very
meta mid but this early on it's not like clanks is doing too much to
Viper.
No, Dr. Batcha for early just wait that earlier.
I just picked up one ready here trying to secure a bit of power.
But look at this rotation from God that juice comes out of a safe lane and cuts over
to bring down to your junior one final deafening blast to try and help out his team
But now he will not be saved by that or he to go out.
Here comes the clanks thrown in some potshots, finishes up PMA now focusing on Niku,
can he kill this fiper, with Malz there on the other side, Niku.
Sure to die, so final hits.
He finished them off, Death Pack keeping Watts in a life for now, dodges the dagger and
gets away with the invisibility.
Malik, while missing the spear, should be fined or retreat.
Got hit by the dragon tail, now follow up with Watts and he's got plenty of resources.
Actually, let magic wand charges, healing oldest, sun strike, the lands on riddies, and
high ground hit that also in lands
High ground wards both on that spot for Yandex
They really wanted to fight that location just trying to flank this area. They get a really nice arena
But rum did its job. This is gonna be a very tanky lineup for Nave
It's gonna require a lot of DPS debris since you're a balancing in progress
I like the dragon I swinging into that play though. You got a lot out of them
the two showing up five and
oh, at the time they didn't
park on a safe lane decay.
It's kind of wild.
This is usually not a safe
player that finds himself
in a lot of those early fight
successfully.
Once again, we're the early
rotations.
He was doing a lot in that
win-range game trying to
salvage a banner early game.
But this one, they're trying to
pull ahead here as he already
happened at Ripley, but a good
grab, catchy lick, saves and
track a nightstand, fontage
here a junior, they'll actually
get the better if that's a
situation, not entirely sure what that fiber strike was, but you know, it's fair enough.
We got the kill.
More Dragonite involvement got to choose reading this game perfectly.
Cleans was going to join these fights, then you have to be able to bring your own firepower,
not get outnumbered.
It's definitely having some impact here on the other huge invoker kill.
The lane that might us now level 8, 6 and 0, start for him.
He's getting all the last hits that even get a D ward.
Not being not afraid to fight her on this bit of lane.
It's an interesting idea from the end to like take the numbers of anage and run it into the
Viper instead of letting him try to abuse your enemy mid.
Yeah, it's not a terrible idea if you could surprise Noggy and kind of start on him and burst
him down.
This is not really half that early burst image.
Play up sharpshooter.
Your Jekyll's really low level, your clanks does not deal in the big DPS without the
desks or yet.
This is too tanky early.
I also think Largo is too good of a counter to a lot of their damage rate.
The bushwack, you pull him away, breaks the bushwack.
Right, takes away much of Jekyll's damage with all those damage over time, so the disfell
going on.
And even just the revisiting against his bow-cureing clings, stops a lot of damage there too.
Speaking of that clings, I think by a full combo here, both to our trade.
Same buff the arena of Black that damage over time for the Viper is too much.
And now Mal is going to feel pretty bad about this.
Keeping down using the arena using a full combo and unable to save the carry.
Great move.
To an after Nico that'll finish his boots and travels and now he can join even more stuff.
Pretty quickly here around the map.
In the end X tries they might, still have not taken this mid tower, so Nico not even
getting punished for that positioning and being in the bottom lane.
next, not really getting too much to work off of here as the laying phase kind of devolves.
See if they can keep playing their kind of defensive stack oriented style.
They kept their towers alive a little better this game.
I mean, they lose that safe lane, the other two are pretty shit, but they're still up.
It's pretty important to what they want to do on these ancient camps, especially for a
bokeh, you need to keep them to the tower log as long as possible.
And look at this, and the Hotsa rotation needs straight to it.
All that moving speed from the smoke and the Largo, they catch up the Watson.
Multiple dust if needed.
Air and team, the kill.
Ah, the massive rotation.
Five heroes to this bottom lane, they're already pushing the tower, which I think maybe
Got Watson lured into that false sense of security.
Like, they've already taken over this area and are taking the tower.
making another two-man smoke rotation on top and that seems a little excessive.
It was a very difficult move to read.
Just almost random, but it aligned up perfectly because you have all that extra boost
beat, doesn't hurt you too much here in terms of resources or as time.
You are still getting more freedom to the invoker who has his might as cooking.
It's going to start to come online.
We're going to get to see him play the game this time around as opposed to last time
Last time where he even needed to play Thoda.
So, it'll be a big difference here, but they definitely shut the clings down.
Oh, nice, grab there, ready, is long range with the Impel and Arnstet Slow,
helps lead PMA into hitting the X.
Should be guaranteed to kill here, pop the dragon form for it,
so we'll see how much damage they can do this off lane tower.
It's almost done.
We gotta get that last two.
So, the kills of the board.
That is your network difference in the scheme.
Dragonites involvement definitely like to start hitting these towers too. It could even
potentially smoke. This decade of made if you really want to look like another
and no curriculum to the tier one. It's a lot of early smoke coming to the
downside here. Those types of moves are available. What has susceptible
your years to just get in a ransacked or on the spiddling.
You know, we talked about a little bit about last pick,
Kunkov vs. the Kaz and everything, but individually,
I think it's a great.
Pump out has been kind of a hit or miss hero.
I would say for last year too.
Or sure.
What?
Posted this.
Why?
Mostly miss.
Why do you draft this here for the offline?
What is it getting?
Not me that they needed.
Even more survivability.
Hmm.
Yeah, I did.
There's a good argument that the lineup is just so
Kanky and then you put Bore on top of it that they're just going to hit this threshold
Nobody can die. You have a wargo heal. You have escape back. If they're full run
You have the fiber skin. You have the DK armor. I mean all of these heroes contribute to boosting the overall team HP up to such a high level
That is just a damage test for antics. If they fail that damage test
You're just gonna lose. You're gonna lose objectives. You're gonna lose Rochon and they're gonna outscale you off of survive the build deal
So it's kind of like all of the
Yes, it does feel very all in which means the antics
They need to like bend, but if they could just stretch this game out, right, I feel like they're
they're likely favored for it.
I'm a certain point in the late game, yeah.
I think in Voker, Clink should out DPS is not going to put, but we're seeing fight
per scale really hard.
And I think DK can also deliver a lot of physical damage here with this important yes behind
himself.
like the Smobby Lion, it's scary to fight against the Smobby 5-5.
If you start me while we are going to see Mavi getting pickoffs around the map, as they
are just much stronger right now, and it's showing, but the axe is coming in relatively
soon for the invoker, and we do have the deso done for Watson, so.
Can still probably expect the Andex to try and make some aggressive moves, but largely
Just playing for a longer game.
I'd be catching TMA here.
tornadoe mp, pretty easy for them.
Outnumbering the four captain.
And obvious TPs will be canceled.
No saving that guy.
Either took his mad stone.
Brutal.
Brutal damage starting.
It was mutual item.
I still pick off kind of the first real game we've seen out of the NX gets the Tesla charges
you mentioned so you get that ball rolling, get this invoker involved in the game. I think
this invoker's already done more than he's last game with that one or a little arm. So that's
something here for a cheer Jr. game to play Dota. Expecting the jump to come through,
trying to protect this invoker shoving out mid and their reading will be correct. The jump is
coming blink available forgot to use he's just running it down that he is mega far
you can run here you're gonna get your eye farming this camp stop protecting him
because he was gonna back up and eat neutrals but this I feel like every mid
farms this area it's such an area the smoke too it's a great area that area
the bottom ancient camps any of the side camps honestly you can get to it
It's just a barge Committal to get to that spot, not but that was a really nice connection.
They got some good smokes this game, now this DK level 12 continues as dominant
around the back and he has a good match up against the clanks.
So, it's not like Watson wants to come in and hit this DK with his death zone, just go
into all the armor.
It's not going to be fun for him.
Yeah.
Hey, it is worth noting that this matchup is a little different right now that they've added
this new NA2 clanks where he bypasses the armor.
That's true.
I imagine it's still not great for clanks, but it probably swings that percentage point
if you, if you, if you point stay his favor.
That's big.
It's really big in these patchups that are otherwise just very one sided against him.
the
some early acts up there for some of these heroes come out
one for the vibrant potentially one for the clings very early acts
on this clings of lots of goods for
I like it because I think he's looking for ways to have early game impact
without committing his hero because as soon as he commits his hero he's getting
He's getting dragon tails stud and they're just going to all end commit right they don't have any saves to bail out that claim
So he's got to be able to find ways to have impact in the team fights without actually showing is here over too much
Also, it's white for struck
All your tax because of the window at least that army still goes off. That's like kind of a way to buy pass it a little
They will have this really annoying like arena plus this angst tornado plus the burning army like this
The way we control is going to be kind of nasty for Navi to walk into.
As seen, they can still blow up some of these heroes like the Black Hergeer Jr.
They say if I drag into all the way, there you go.
Beautiful arena!
That'll help them reset quite a bit here in these heroes.
If I did tornado, why is the Burning Bronze team through?
Spear though to finish off Red East, that's good enough.
Butch whack, knock a latch onto anything, PMA, getting the grab on Soxa.
Yandex should just protect their support and backway as five Yandex.
a little aggressive in finding an opening in Navi's armor, getting too killed.
I've got the juice getting himself stuck.
Not as fine as pulling him.
Oh yeah, they're surely.
In prisons himself to think about what happened in the last fight.
That's the power.
Yeah, they get the initiation this game.
They can just chain stun you up in some of those defensive spells, they don't come out
on fire.
There's no escape act.
Lip.
But from that here, you can get bursted down really quickly before those spells come out.
That's the strength of this lineup.
But a lot of range to get triggered.
A lot of these heroes can contribute the damage without committing the hero itself.
We can be hard to turn that kind of play around, and that would get a more shot in your looks a big moment in this game.
Look at that big found that pick off those successful.
Gonna get him to the next set of items.
You're looking for more and I'll be...
Ready, there with the escape act.
Friday is that extra movement feed to get away, turning also latches, wants and push forward with the ages.
We'll be X tier, but...
It's you're going after an ages hero. It's not going to be easy for them PMA.
Oh, okay, fine.
My conduit shows the aim to the turret. Lots and almost dying there has deathpank to work with.
You will not lose the ages yet.
Oh, Croker, bro, chill man.
He's just that thing stunned him. I think two maybe three times over the course of that previous fight as well.
It's just a menace.
Some time for the whole squad to do
to the
four-menter
and the net worth a year
that's a nice short to get to
yeah special this line up some more
and coming through these beefy boys
super valuable
I if you like not being a kind of loss
a lot of their momentum and if they I look at this line up and I feel like they
should just be able to like five-man roll-up
If I burnt D.K. with a logo behind them,
healing them up, making them faster,
a conco to X to pours the teamfight.
I feel like they should have been favored
in this window of time.
Issues they're only favored in a true 5 on 5.
They're not really favored if the fight starts with
the end X going on a hero that the T.T.
everybody in, or if the lanes are getting pushed,
they get split up on the map, and there's some pickoff
happening.
They're not favored in that type of game style at all.
there are a lot of pretty clunked.
There are little slow at shoving lanes.
The hills of the trail line up while really bad at it.
Their supports don't do it.
The fight pros and little slow at it.
The DK, I mean, he must be hitting ancient camps.
He's always going to clear waves.
But it's just not as clean as what Yandex are doing with this
clinks and voker who are kind of just go shoving leaves in.
You're worried about where they are on the map.
So as long as Yandex don't force them on the map,
it can't be pure junior strip.
Drag and tail before it can go to walk away now he goes walks and no empty slots forgot the juice to be holding dust another move from Navi bit kind of flounders a bit
Let's see if the index try and make something happen now as this DK form is running out he does have PKP
But you can also look for other heroes down here
And there's no vapor in this fight. He just thought have TP for 20 seconds
No bipernote dragon form, they have to be KVTB out, good call.
This just needs to be a full retreat, whoever gets caught gets caught.
That'll be ready.
Ordeso charges for the clings, he's going to instantly go top.
Look for the biper who was shoving out this way.
This is the style game that favors the index.
Now be just knocking on true 5 on 5, they want,
just have to keep far right up.
Scaling looking for more BKVs, more defensive items.
They will have a triple core BKV timing.
It's some point, maybe quite strong, if you can get on top of the clings and then you're not really
worried about the rest of the heroes in this game. So clings is definitely public enemy number one.
It just kind of feels bad that they're, they got one of those BKB's and they're just going to have
to wait for the other two in order to feel like they've got their full team fight online.
I'm sure they're happy to take it fire right now. It's just you're not going to get a true
This will pick up on Maloney.
He goes inside of the dagger, he'll die to the with.
He's one of the other.
This T.K. still lead in the pack here, making moves all 17.
It's been a great game.
From God to choose here.
They're impressive and performants by hand.
But he's walking in without a B.K.B. right now.
He's going to be chained stun.
And almost saved.
He said, Reddy's gets out with the box, though the burning army is still hitting
on that.
And he's taking no damage whatsoever.
But the treat is armor and his crimson guard, the burning army is pretty easy to
shrug off.
So I'm trying to make a move run for it with the scurry and P pulling back in Niko, burned
out of all of his man and he's got some help though.
If the holy locket now he can go back in, go after the clanks, the clanks, Watson, he's
going to die immediately here.
And they still have a lot of drake to throw down on the second light.
They're going to try for it and eat him.
He's going to stick around, fight for strike on, Watson, Watson, kind of tanky, no turns
being the background on Miku by his life, but it's with down,
doesn't the following, and the escape act
once again from Rini's belly out to the zero's dawn,
so the spear pulls back in, Malik,
hit by the ice path, Miku, is waving goodbye to Malik,
his Malik is heading out of here in a grave.
All right, got the dragon knight,
but man, they pay us the price,
losing his clanks, twice.
Just so much to steam,
and this novie lineup with barco just sitting there,
healing everybody, lock it, already online.
I wish I could see how much healing he did in that fight, because you have boat run on top of it.
You have all the resistance from the Viper, it's just a ridiculous amount of HP to get through.
Right?
It's like that 27 times, so yeah, you do the math on that one, that is a lot of heal.
I love the fact that they were so prepared for the man of burn, too.
Look at Niko, totally burned out of mana, and then Oli-Laki arcane boots,
Sam's sure he had his own sources to be able to give him some anus, so like they did so much and if he didn't having those resources only reason they're able to keep pushing through otherwise they don't have an answer to Watson's second life
I really don't want to travel without the TPS without a VKV without the ability to get out of the attack speed slow as his flight versus the problem
It's just so toxic to plan to in these early mid teams to have more consistency more abilities output higher DPS off the parage like data
or something. And I have a Mac on Zioz, he's pushing towards Grieves, and he basically
healed everybody there for probably a thousand. Just for it's, well as you can take this guy
out early, he's going to do work in his fights because yeah you're, you're a lot of pretty
high single target burst, but these are also extremely tanky heroes to try and burst there.
right now. The Endics has such a great lineup for
hiding out the team fights, mostly through this in Volker and his
nonsense between the Stormado and the MP.
Kai-Gree find isolated heroes, go in, poke them back up, don't just end up with
not five on five slides. They'll find a pretty broad
down bottom. Because again, Navi has to show with some heroes. They can't
really go shove the way the Endics are able to look at this. They just get the
just get the kill quick execution back away if nobody gets caught.
This is exactly what Gandex want to be doing.
This is the game plan drawn up to perfection.
Absolutely, they didn't cut the next way with the invoker and a great
ward down there on that Lotus pool.
She kind of scouts the way it gets you a little vision.
You know, you can go for these aggressive cuts get out.
Those are the kind of words you want deep on these lanes.
You want vision of where not the are sending their heroes.
so you can keep the rat pressure up, knock it, caught, and then set that pick off. Play.
That's what's going to build you a B-A. So, X-Key, that one pretty well.
I think the, uh, that being said, not the do have this big objective right around the corner of Rochon.
Every Rochon fight, I do like it's just a little awkward to nerdy for no army to take it the game.
I would agree if you had your data list that unfortunately just got sniked on a career by a
a pirate squirrel on your side of the map.
Yeah, that's a huge pickup for socks up.
Right, this roach is not possible, that's dead.
I don't know if you're meant to.
He's doing, God's work, that's what he's doing.
He just took an entire data list out of the game for two minutes
while roaches falling, gets a D-work,
and now Nico's just dead.
How the hell is he there?
I don't know, I mean, he got spear a little out of position,
but there's no way he should be all the way out.
Here, socks up finally does geek hot on his adventures
the room knobby side of the map.
This is all potential roast bomb.
You can't be just wandering in the river alone.
Yeah.
OK.
If he has escape back there, yeah, I can understand.
You can pop BKB out of it.
You're in a tank a lot.
You're not going to go down that quickly,
but I'll be giving up something.
Big openings here are ins subjective time,
but it is likely theirs to take.
I still have to believe they're favored
around the roach, but if they can just set up vision there,
and let the DK start doing it,
it may end expite into them,
even if you jump with some crazy arena.
Just triple BKB core with boat room,
escape act,
Largo heel,
Roachon's taking so long to spawn,
it's actually gonna go to the other side.
And Yandex is already in prime position.
I mean, they're pushing out this bottom lane,
made his kind of push-in,
top is kind of pushed in.
This is a heavy smoke commitment from the avi, but it's also kind of easy to read at this point no heroes showing on the map anywhere.
They hit the tornado on the vibra that's the only hero that shows.
Take a lead wisdom shrine away from the enemy, get out of this side of the map.
I mean, Navi at this point there's just been a bunch of wasted time for them, but it will all be worth it if they can secure a roadshon.
the
list of walk the older children up there as well
the
and it's trying to finish a bunch of
Lincoln's fears
to make a lot of the clanks
thoughts I could be done to your
great peak if they can get a
This one was way fair 28% felt like 50% there.
He actually missed way more than he should have on the heck of a tent.
That is ridiculous.
And now let's decay for Clark Techie.
I just hope that he could caught a game.
Oh no, not me.
Not like this.
Use.
They can't Zion as well.
Stay back for only last for so long, the arena lasts longer, so one pickoff turns to two and
that rush it is entirely Yandex and Rochon.
There's little plays by Soxa, I don't know if you guys have some game sense of where
you should be to make space at the right time to let them move happen somewhere else, so
it's really messy with not these sense of where Yandex or on the map.
I don't think Miku had to read that play at all.
He's probably thinking, hey, this one.
I'm going to show top once like you can't jump in.
Like, maybe they're cereal in my pocket.
Is Cherich Jr reading the counter dormant for play?
Like, growshot is obviously theirs, and he's saying they're going to do Tormenter,
and he doesn't want to let that happen.
He's in position to catch some burrows here.
Torneado goes out a little bit off the mark on it.
And he's right in the back.
Like, here catches two.
Now here comes the spear.
If they skate back, he's not going to fail.
Not of this one.
They've been caught.
Cherich Jr throws out the meteor.
It doesn't really hit.
the Jews in the end, they get that, get two bills of the three a BKB forced on PMA. And there's a gem.
Who's a gem was it?
Must've been rid of this. You're trying to like pass it off and then get out. There's no BKB on that dragon
at for 10 seconds. What a catch from Chira Jr. He had to just step it up here in the last five minutes.
that was it, such a fast move.
Chirid Jr. excellent read, excellent call, and now they have their double linkage
for online, so that DK stuns the Sane of a lot in this game.
It's kind of gone up the window, like you don't have a lot of great spells to go in there
and block, proc a linkage to let that stun land.
You have to do it very quickly here.
Yeah, if you're breaking eggs, that feels okay.
block a bifur strank or dragon tail field amazing
But even the x like yeah, you're you're gonna try and use x to prop these
But that is one of your only studs in this game
I told them if it feels that good either like you throw it x you get blocked
Okay, but then what happens right you're not x anybody so then
You don't you know you're not anchoring the fight either
I think that's necessary for great because your stunts are so limited.
It's kind of the downside of the largo remastered.
They require other heroes to set the fight up for them.
They're not kind of such as in that mid wave.
It somehow doesn't get caught by the smoke rotation that's coming through.
X tried to grab something here.
PMH is cannot seem to get close enough.
Now, Etonan's looks at the high ground.
He's not going to find anything.
They got the Jekiro, but with an also sweet if they could have forced a fight,
especially on that clanks, but even just a pickoff on the hood wing.
would have been great. They're actually going to try and take this for versus five still.
Scatting out dust hits on the invoker to your junior backs away. They play for a different high ground play.
And the fact they lost that gem hurts so much in these kind of fights. They're going to see if they could burst down the eco again.
Run to the sides, attack the little bit of damage spear back.
Science straight into the invoker, picked off.
You'll take that frog every time.
I like that Malik is going for the spearbacks because it's going to destroy that hero from the escape act.
Bring Master does not have a blink. He does not have insane cast range. Like this is escape.
Yes, he has BKB, but he's TP getting canceled. Still kind of rough. He's good.
that
the
That worth the your TJ still make up for him, but even that data was getting stuck on the courier and then the failed kill in Soxley
I kind of hurt got the juices went into all these little things out of it. I'm right now
So many and a half on ages, but there's the nullifier. So now you're gonna have to leave on this key
It's right
Just a little send it swift link for got the juice
He's gone for it
He's taken a bite straight to Sox up
and get that kill a lot faster this time around.
And then the BKB hitting Malagloss and gonna chase away some of these heroes Crimson Garden helping to keep everybody
of Navi alive at least for now.
So you're taking a scape through this area.
Ooh, that coulda been a good late bush wax.
Oh, oh my god.
That was a possibility.
How about a side man bushwag?
There was one tree alive there.
Oh, not a corner.
He almost hit it.
That looked like it was gonna latch like three or four.
Yeah.
of them of him, and he should buy a plate or something.
That was that was what Japan down right there did he like you to call it there that is
not going to be a good fight because you really have to forget the player on the DKK and
there with his B can be in deal in the damage.
He's still beast with the swift bling gauglet day.
He's first damage is insane but once the B can be his out if the invoker survives,
There's a solid chance he gets disarmed from the blast, he gets tornadoes, he gets his
meta bird, he's stuck in a nice wall, and Volker just chights you out, slowly grinds that
teamfight ring. So it has to happen quickly.
Got on the outposts.
Got the juice, will leave behind his support. They're refusing their range,
our artillery really well. Yeah. Like the poke in this line of his insane with the tornado
So if that lands, you can just throw in the sharp shooter boom ring, ice-pack, macro,
something to cling-spirage, some spear, nobody commits to the fight, and that's like 2 or 3,000 damage.
I bet this is where you wish you had the old water park here.
Yeah, there's one.
You could just go in and be of threat on your own and be at the east, but that's kind of the downside of the Kunkka.
He's only as strong as his other cores are able to sit in the fight, it's not a primary damage dealer.
And especially with help, the Ags build, just went full oras, laid now, crimson guard, E.C. for the team.
All about buffing the Viper and the DK here, so they're going to have to deliver the big damage.
While the DK got the juice and certainly done that, Niko, he's had the rougher game between the two.
For sure.
I'll pull those pick-offs really set it back here.
But I do also think that Yandex drafted better damage to his against the Viper than in a lot of games we've seen.
Yeah, like clinks kind of owns this hero as the game goes on.
The invoker's very good to later the game goes and you do a break in that sharp
shooter.
So, Viper does not like long range damage in the game channel.
It doesn't like long range physical, but he's also not really doing anything against
long range spellcasters.
Like you can argue he can heal against some, you know, you can get like some hard blood
so in survival against long range spellcasting, but you're still not doing anything in those
guys.
Yeah.
It's so much longer in Jartillery, and it's kind of crafted to not have to close into this
corrosive skin.
So he's struggling with that.
It might be one of those games you have to get the play going on over.
So you can get in there.
Yeah, I'm actually inclined to agree with that.
Anything that gets on top of the gandex at this point in time does yandex have been way too
good of a time with that as you said using that artillery, found the opening site the
The fight says that it will be raised dead as well as science, full supports, and
the shots from this smoke game immediately.
Instant Hacks are that kind of a hacksaw and gauntlet juice, I think they are lucky to
get out of there.
But they're very carry.
The damage is just insane.
Like the clingson in Vokar can pleat the online, data list for Watson is already of a 25.
This game is very scary for Navi.
I think they still have some options to win a true 5 on 5.
But how do you get that fun even putting it's so damn hard?
To burn out the man I've got the juice.
I was gonna say this on about coke, but they're almost killing him.
He has to be killed.
You are still gonna kill him.
You do what that is!
Brother whoo.
That is not good.
That is a very not good here for Davi.
You can't be dying to just two heroes as the Terri and it's kind of game-native.
Nico, he shows up, trying to help PMA here, the Burning Army gets dropped and he
all to back away.
Again, the Crimson Guard will protect them from the damage, but they're not actively doing
anything to Gandex.
Gandex is just hitting them, and Navi is trying to defend.
Two different lanes being pushed in at the same time.
Fifty seconds left on the Dragonite Navi very likely to lose multiple barracks at this point
I just never got that ball going never got a roach never had that true five on five happened
The index played him around the map right well now when the poke can just straight up kill you
You're in trouble
and
the
the
of the
the
gold because of how kiddies. Lots and also offing for the straight cooldown. So this is
push is happening a whole lot faster because of that. It's two lanes basically. Just like that.
you still don't even have BKB on the clanks yet he's gonna buy it out
I wonder if he even needs it all right that's the safe choice here you're playing the
ranged game so well it's pretty tempting they just go first and forth to image or
something. And especially since they're in a position to give another rose
on the air pretty soon. Any anti-healing is also nice, Scotty. Some
sheathes, stuff like that. You know, a lot of those are really
building. Don't worry, they have satanic on the DK and they're just
gonna punch it. Hope to the best here. All day and panoramic
The situation on the Mars, great pick off to start things off.
Let's see how much more they can get ice-map blink away from the jacquero.
They run into the pit.
They're going to find that Rochon has not spawned and Moon on spawn for a little while longer.
Extremely could pick off.
He just bought out for a refresher.
So, by back available, didn't you get to use it in the fight?
DK for him running down notes halfway.
I'll be almost getting down here.
Got something. He's gonna be psyched though.
He's gonna get blown up before the BKBD is gone.
The rest of not being able to get here in time to bail him out
and now the big damage threat is gone.
Even with the dragon I did,
look at how Yandex are positioning this.
They're still hiding in the mouth the entire way.
In fact, Wanson's gonna keep you away from Miku just in case.
That bifur strike being used.
The whole back-end's your junior, if only then wasn't this control on the Viper Viper's,
right-a-hit's your junior might actually have a chance to get this kill even if it
cost up everything else at least kill the invoker and indeed they do tornado, holds them
back, can reclaim the gem?
No?
Okay, they're just full retreating here before they get caught, perhaps the wise thing to do
and as they will bull barely escape their lives intact.
that's whitebursts still strong as hell in just
it's a lot's in he's gonna put that to the test okay all right he doesn't immediately
crumple not full she goes he's tanky but is that enough to get rocher for
eandex think it is because the bars is respawning he died so early on and
and double arena no detail the maps got shredded man one hex and he's just gone
I mean, I don't know if Redis got caught by something, he does have a blink.
Just no escape act.
On this DJ that kind of decides to fight, like he absolutely needs to bail out.
The Marsal's dead so you don't have no fire.
It's totally understandable from God that Jesus can't wait like they are in a desperate spot.
And when they get that pick off on the Mars, they gotta make the most of it.
Rochon doesn't spawn.
So he's saying, we have to get more.
We have to like get another pick off to secure this Rochon area.
Unfortunately, it was a critical.
Yeah.
I mean, you should go more there.
But you just have to make sure the team is...
Back in you up and you don't over-plink the distances and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Gotta maintain that formation.
the
so the ages on the Watson refreshes are
and she's available to you can probably pass us over to cheer a junior at some point
the
of the
of the
and are on the
as well so high ground for this last lane
that's a tough one for an obvious and I always think you have the smoke
and just blank jump in
You're just going to throw forward spirits and throw any army in and drop the banner and then what?
Go through big.
In order to take the torment right soon.
Now he finally gets too shard.
So if they get back off and just run down the way it's kind of the move I would expect here.
Yeah, why not.
It's by back for an obvious if the fight for buy and though it is buy.
How much did like though because of the burning army they can't afford to just play inside
their base and play for buy by the same time they have to go out and attack.
I agree, I only could let them just set up on your high ground with ban or plus everything.
And you have to jump the back line.
In the end, despite all that, it is Yambex,
or taking the extra precautions here, five bins,
moking up slowly approaching the base, clearing out any wards.
Which, you see this one, just waiting for somebody to...
Activate their smoke to deal with it. I'll be the invoker.
I'm doing a damage in the bottom, River.
Now I'll be right up check it. Could be huge.
They're not seeing you go here. This is the same thing.
I can't believe they're trying to get this dragon at the, I don't know. They're trying to get in the level 25 or something, but the setup is already there.
The territory is gone. They're going to be doing with magas if they're not careful.
They're really saved by the escape out there.
The horse who's got to choose jumping the Mars trying to stop him.
He came for damage on a neco-trient claw.
Well, how does this macro player in the shots?
They just follow him all the way through.
The arena now goes outside.
Spear got the juice gets blown up.
It's way too easy for the set up of Gandex.
They're going to play off a by-max here.
Once they're going to be pulled in,
Nico trying to finish him off with a poison.
They do have the first life down.
He's going to slot in the cheese.
Not going to be an easy kill the second go.
If the Torrance is going to finish off,
these buildings not be are going to be playing up against Megas here.
The situation spear back on a KMA try to pull him out with a catchy lick not good enough
meteors surround him. Final bit of damage required for Megas is secured in Yandex. Despite
the buybacks from Navi, it can't even get a team fight out of the buybacks and can't even force
some sort of eight versus buy. The Tandex already retreating getting outside the base and resetting.
Now enough gackles, not enough heroes that can just get on top of this invoker, clanks
and threaten them.
And there, outputting overwhelming DPS, beautiful fight from Mollick, by the way.
He needed everything there, great arena on the backside of the net, the hex that he can
get instantly just refresher, Rhea Arena Speared I think he made sure he dies.
Entire fight is just in these arenas, miserable for now to be defied in the Viper can't
do anything, there's no other damage source cause the keycans getting jumped.
just beautiful spellcasting here for the Mars and all lined up here for the index of the
lake game just north enough damage threats and it's not be lined up
and now worthy is insane 40k full win waker on the Mars
they didn't actually find that damage call
gonna go for the dude's got him on his spear
100 is zeroed as the arena zone south of supports from being able to reach that track
at night and for two minutes and it's
a lot of clay house here
lots in triple kill and see if they can get him a rampage
they may be not actually just gonna be in process we got out the keys just at the edge of it
Miku does die to malachtono rampage
just for lots and just the old trick him
they will have to settle for that another dominating game from him
Continue to play up to our expectations and extract back a much more controlled tempo from them.
Well, a bit of a passive lineup for Bobby, which I don't really think suits their styles,
especially in this series. It's a very defensive lineup when you have the really exterior
object as well. You can't just play this fast-paced, skirmish pick off style. That is not the
lineup that plays that way at all. So I think they feel almost prohibited in terms of what they
could do. They just have to farm and believe in this decay and they gave up too many pickoffs from
some nice, alphaduvers around the map and poker got to play Dora-daki.
Oh yeah, no, no smileys from Nico on this one.
His might forgot thoroughly dismantled in this game 3 putting the index up to 1.
Look, Coach, see why I straight in there to talk to the boys about what went wrong in game
number 3 for the side of Navey, whereas Yandex, they've already gone off the stage.
They're going to be looking at what is to happen in game 4, while we get to break it down
And here, this early lead from Navi was looking at good with the, hey, maybe they're
going to be able to make two years work that others haven't obviously the Viper having
very success over the course of Blossom, even less success today.
Yeah, this snake just, it's really high execution and I think it doesn't suit a lot of
these players.
I think you need to be a specific type of player to want to play the Viper.
I think it's his clunky, he's immobile, he forms a lot.
And I think that's these aggressive players.
I think especially in Ecos, someone who wants to be crazy and running and do wild stuff,
the cast suited him much better, not only was it a good test game, but he played super well.
This game is just, it's just not him.
It's a bit of an opportunity, they were playing a pretty decent game, up until the point
that a certain couple pickups occurred, right?
And I think that's what we're going to provide for it.
You do walk this fine line, like every item you buy needs to compound into, I am really
tanky, you can't come near me.
But if at any point you start dying, you will then just keep feeding for us to the game,
But you really have to just understand like your limits and unfortunately for Avie that
won't be the case in the end.
With the evoker with the clinks with the Mauser, it went like all these heroes, and that
finally here is find the pick up and that's exactly how Yandex lived with a punish
nervous for the late portions of this game.
Yandex just kind of got to run free.
I would say from the mid game they had a lot better moves.
I think also if you're Navi, you should have looked for more like places on the map where
you have like an observer in the centuries.
Like Watson is continuously in this running around saying we've seen Jay on the evoker
way better performance like the invoker of game 2 that was not it but this one this was actually quite nice also like against the Viper and like you guys are saying hi
I think Nico he looks more like the you know, he's the hipster guy. He wants to like play his type of heroes
Also run around on the map makes up happen and Viper just isn't it the heroes 0 3 today
It's kind of just looking like a burden in my opinion sure
It's still looking like fine and some of these fights, but just doesn't seem very fitting where's yeah next day are making a lot of good moves
I actually like, you know, he comes back to your junior, but like the way that he was playing this game,
I was doubtful in a little bit of how we both was fitting into the current matter of this tournament,
the playstyle, the pacing, but of course it's the second most played competitive hero,
and the way that you end up playing this game, they needed this type of hero.
That runs around a visible, it's totally pushing and split pushing with his facet and the tornadoes,
and then on top of that finding the heroes that also set up. So yeah, I thought it was a better and broken game,
but it was also built because of not having as much kind of aggression in their areas.
He had also him going waxed. I think if he had gone to Exorid, like K-40s straight up
had him own in this game. Oh, of course.
With the wax, like doing well. And even the Midas, I think it was quite good.
I wasn't quite sure if it was going to work out well, but it did. And, uh, no, they made
sure that they made a clean. Yeah.
I mean, you're like clean. There was a fair amount of back and forth. I got the
I was a little bit more back and forth and I'm glad that we saw it. We keep hopping on and
about it and I'm going to do it again right now. Game 1 was just so dominantly way of
Yandex Game 2, so dominantly the way of Navi. It was nice to get to see Game 3 be this Navi
having good lanes. Yandex being able to stall it out, find a little opportunity and
of things for themselves. So let's take one bit of time to start with.
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't know. I don't know.
The other thing has been written on the wrong page.
It's hard for like a few years.
I had that, so I had a little fear about it.
Yeah, I was like, I'm like, I'm not going to glass.
So I don't know. I can't wipe off. I look like I'm crying.
I have an eye just in my eyes.
I just need to have my mouth shut.
It's hard now.
It's hard breaking watching that team.
You're going to wipe it.
Can't we get away so low as the people get to hear your face looks like?
I'm sorry, we're just distracted.
Oh, you got a really good idea.
I look like a little, but it's not.
In terms of though, it was like tears down.
Anyway, let's talk with what was good for Navi.
Brighton Queen spirits here.
Because there was some insane outplay when it came for Lazy.
Lating a pot.
Yeah, I mean, they did some good stuff.
And I think that's especially the PMA, you know, with his conquer.
It doesn't happen too often, but look at this.
He's getting to be looking on.
He will now pop the branch so that he doesn't see him.
And he's already pre-tarranting while he doesn't see me.
Whoop-bang! Whoop-bang! Whoop-bang!
He brings him up in the air.
Quinn, where the haters at? What do you say to this play?
Well, I'd say that he lost.
Do you think that play was good?
The play was good.
Good, that was good.
Conqueror thing. That was a branch thing.
Good enough.
I'll PMA lover, but a Conqueror header.
For lunches, it needs to be used more.
Let's go talk about Conqueror.
Because that doesn't matter right now.
It's not the branches.
These pro players, they do not use them.
When you place it, they lose vision.
You can block paths.
They have good cost-fraid, but I don't see pro players using enough.
a little bit up. Keep it up.
Yeah.
Why would I?
Because we didn't have you for the last few panels.
So I want to get more insight from you about like,
what is happening right now.
And nothing of us already talked about it.
P.M. getting to have a couple of outplays on the
Kunker, Nick, who previously doing well on the
cares, not so much this time on the vibe.
But what I've got to choose,
no need someone that we like to talk about it more.
Now this guy, he was cooking.
I think even though the ended up losing this game,
I think what he did was very, very good.
And like because it can look at this type of place,
He's mid lane here. It's like minute eight first run of the game. You know the mid lane like mid
Retreats it's Viper versus in vocal. That's a very much answer in vocal team will bring a lot of heroes here
And it's just super important that you fortify you know your strong heroes that might get attacked early on
So hitting being in this play was very very important and even just later
We're now at what minute 930 like this is just one of the half minutes later
And he's immediately team being to display where again what happens is that they're in the mid lane
They're going on his Viper one more time, so he's fortifying this play a secondary time and this allows him to also get like a early blink
Dagger in this game because my this is not your mid dragon. I you know
Tackle guy who just has first I didn't think Dagger. He's got mask of madness
Arnold. He wasn't all the plays. He did the first main move of the team as well
Substead some other people didn't hold their weight, but my guy got the juice. He had to do some this game
No, no, no, no, no, no, I still gonna praise got the juice and then put someone else down. All right. Let's bring him back up
No, he's so awesome
Who poured on who are you saying is the problem the wording was not good in this and who else was another name
Join people is I'm ready. I mean, I don't want the course to ward. I want the stuff
Or things in nuclear clings. What can you put that free? Hey, you guys this one sorry
We are things things they go invisible. Let's go to this invisibility
What boards and centuries
And where are they?
I'm out there, right?
Count to point, count to point.
Even though supports count by this stuff,
your chords can also play in a way
where they respect where the current centuries are.
Yeah, yeah.
With the current, does the instrument is?
Okay.
But if my bad book goes into places,
he shouldn't be.
Yeah, let me get out of this game.
Let's play the clips off the bumper.
Let's make clip dying off the bumper.
Play it out right now.
31 minutes, the Viper's in the jungle.
That's not the clip.
It doesn't matter anymore,
because what happens here is our phrasing
nobody wants to get in,
because now we win the win in the game.
It's because there's supports
where in good positions enabling their chords.
The DK doesn't have the high-grown Eagle and they can get saves.
Then they can continue catching back the fight and look at the attack time.
The ring roster on the logo untouched in this entire engagement.
But after this fight, Navi could not do this ever again.
Why not? Why?
Because they're not going to pay me!
Why do you want from me?
I want the Eagle to play better.
So many fans from Navi want them to succeed.
A whole country wants them to finally win a tournament.
But unfortunately, when it matters, there's some fans crumbled.
Maybe you can be a combination of both. I don't want to get to like you know neutral here.
I think we got political on this one.
I could, but it's okay.
Now you're right now. Let's not get to political. You know, they're going to step it up together.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Play games.
No.
I do see your point.
Or as you both sides, they've been better positioning from the side of the sports leader.
As well as the Viper, the more sport leader respects the other course going on.
on, all right, I was like, sit in the wall.
So don't come at me, guys, I'm just the host here.
Look, do you have a clip of that 31 minutes?
I think it may be.
I don't care.
Oh, he was anyone.
We had it, no.
Roll the knuckle.
No, we could pick about the index then, because it wasn't just
these things that we're talking about, that now we might have
faulted it out and despite having the lead, because
the index were making these spaces.
They were aware of what either was lacking on the map,
or what they were able to push the limits on.
Yeah, I mean, I think CJ, I mean,
As I said earlier, I think he really stepped up this game.
By the way, I just love that we keep calling him CJ now.
I'm sure he's here for the tournament.
He's a little bit nervous.
He's a little nervous.
See you guys.
Anyway, CJ, I think it's...
Look at this.
Look at this.
It's a very, very chat.
Just have a little bit of fun.
Yeah, but it's fun.
Run back to the same hero and just say, you know what?
You can turn to pick me here and I don't care.
I'm going to play my hero again because I think it's good for the game.
And I think that takes a lot of balls.
And I think it's very, very good in a best of five that you're able to man up like that.
And pick the thing again.
So you're not scared, you're not doubting yourself.
You need that show signs of, like, this is good for not just this series,
but also, like, as a player as this career advances,
I think you need to be able to believe in yourself like that.
And this is where I was like, when we showed those fights,
I had the Navi doing well.
When you fast forward to these cuts of the watching,
you already have the Viper dead,
then you haven't vocified in new hairs.
Now, if DK is dying by himself,
and then it's like, is this constant, like, effect,
where one wrong fight gives confidence to the enemy team
to keep playing the map, to keep exploring the opportunity to find pickles.
I think for Navi it really was a matter of like one that you cannot make that one mistake
But you have these happy heroes like we saw Liquid you twice like her
It's because you ball up together. You have a conquer as well. Your whole concept of draft is hold each other's hands as five
Never let go and walk to objectives in areas that you want to control and if you ever let that go
Yandex will punish you and that's exactly what we saw
Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of these clips you also see this jacquero just going absolutely hand. Yeah, this eggs is the slow is in this
He's scaling his crazy.
We know about his lane from a million games in a row.
I think this hero is a massive problem,
and they don't have answers for it clearly.
They pick Kunka and Tejkiro.
Tejkiro is super good against Kunka.
Pretty much all phases of the game.
They don't have a way to respond to this hero,
and they should not give it anymore,
because I genuinely think it's just too good.
It gives Watson a super free game,
which is exactly what Yandex wants.
They want Watson off to the races,
with a free carry game, any hero he wants,
because literally, any hero can win the lane with Tejkiro.
This crap is not okay.
Yeah, I mean, Watson has also been kind of,
he's been popping off in a lot of the games.
So a lot of the games, they win.
He's like 10 in 0 in this game.
He was 15 in 3.
And to me, Navi's mid game is just a little,
it's still inconsistent.
I mean, it's what we all talked about.
Like they are not always on their top level
when he comes to the game play.
But I will also say that they just need to find a way
to make it easier.
And I do think like after look back at Nico,
I don't know why I was smiling.
But I'm all right, I'm all right, I'm all right.
I'm just thinking about the evolution of the draft as well.
where it's like the hero kind of is he the picked up the second phase or you had the
luxury of banning it the second phase again this best of five is developing and I
think that's that hero they're like okay now the underlord now the kez is way
more important and so the two characters flip by and you do have a look at when
on the things like that feel so predominant yeah I mean this hero definitely
needs to be looked at and I think also just what I could see from Yannick
is that they were a little bit faster on some of their moves like later they're
going rose but CJ is already teaping out early to go to the tormentor and then they're
kind of catch Navi going on and then like you said if they don't stick together as
five which they did and because they kept getting picked off one after one after one
after one and then the gold lead is oh 15k 18k now the game is actually hard to play
before that what's not hard to play but the problem is always like is this
have a lot if you have to hold it to a time the entire time it does take one like
mistake and then you can't really ever get back to being five because that you
have to push out the way you have to set up the map correctly you need to have
the good vision that you're mentioning if you have the good vision then the
the clinks and the vocal invisible, right? So it's like it really is a was the draft to
one dimension and how it needed to play, right? Because like when we look at Lager just before
it doesn't feel like it's this one dimensional. I think Lager has like layering to how they play it
and now here in that support position it doesn't maybe didn't have the same punch or at least
a little bit more volatile at least. So again, I don't know if I'm a fan of this support Lager was much
compared to to the other roles it can be in. I mean to me it's interesting that Navi can
can use to run back these drafts that don't scale as well and they're like supposed to play
faster their higher execution when their execution is very hit or miss and so it's
hard for me to actually predict how a game will go until it starts panning out
because you don't know which navi is going to be in any game you can like go from
game 2 to game 3 like I think we very easily could have seen the game to performance
in game 3 but we don't right and that not knowing that inconsistency there that we
always talk about navi it's so prevalent and I mean you can see them voicing their
frustrations after game I think that's a good thing. I like the fact that the game ended
the incidentally like rally runs out of the game.
That is like, but yeah, but even at the end of the game, it happens the same thing.
I think that alone is kind of cool to think, because normally it's like everyone is
at the PC, you've got such a talk there, but to have an instant discussion clearly there's
like meaningful force to be had about that game, maybe it was a play choice.
I think this is one of the things that again, the draft without the scaling, you should
lean more on the play.
I feel in the game.
Like have a quick point like why are we here, why are we not doing this?
It shouldn't be a draft thing.
Well, look, there's a more meaningful force to be had for our plays, as well as us here on the panel.
And we're going to need a break to do that. We'll come back a little bit of fun and out best to five continuing.
We're back right now with our best of five that is soon to continue but we have a little
What a fun before we see Navi and Yandex fight it out again in another game of Dota.
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Interesting take.
Let's continue.
He's on Photoshop by the way.
That is so fun.
That's epicenter. That's like 20, 16, 17.
I've never seen it before.
They give it all those hats.
You look 15, 70.
You don't look like you.
I was not 16 or 17, was 20, 16.
So I feel like you're doing one.
How's that going to be?
You still have the hat by chance?
I think my dad has that.
I love you, my dad thinks they're like,
you know some of the merge.
Yeah, I think it's Dr. Sister with a favorite hero
just to confirm.
Yep.
Perfect.
All right, slide, please.
And I promise you, I've seen every slide.
I'm sure it's going to happen here.
Once the next slide appears,
That's me!
I'm afraid of the time.
That's right.
I mean, he just pops his head line still so that it's still impressive.
That's beautiful.
Keep that up.
And...
What about a play without a home?
Oh.
What?
How do you tell me to keep her time?
I don't really play.
So I really live with auto home.
Am I?
You know, and from bugs life, you got your heck in sack.
What does that sack call?
A sack?
I got a sack.
No, no, no, no.
That's right.
How do you think?
the new way to pose for a picture about that bottom right when I saw like ever since I was
like coaching you three nineteen is always that big. No, this is just like insert player poses
like the arms cross and no, I mean bottom bottom right. No. You always do this point. What
is that video on this next. That answer anyway. That's why anyway, the I can't do it because
this is bigger. Oh, he's got it. And here's the few is one. I'm off. Again, I never
paid my time. No idea without even being able to. First two words matter more than the number.
What's what's ranked one?
Oh, I go to the MMO straightaway.
Wow.
And the MMO is another one.
But ranked one.
Oh my god.
What role are you playing with your ranked one?
A star.
Actually, so I first played mid.
Yeah.
Played carry.
Yeah.
Then I played often in a team with his team.
You did not take it.
Here's a team ahead of you as you know this.
I don't know who's a misguided game.
He never shared fake.
Yeah.
Never shared fake.
He never shared fake.
You're like a fake game.
Have a mad.
Do you agree that Hon is better than the daughter?
Is that your take?
That was a good game.
Prime Han.
That was a good game.
It was a better game.
The prime on over-primed it.
It felt better.
Yeah.
I'm not going to say like watching tournaments
was as good as watching the primed days of the older two of the TIAT and I.
But the game at its peak.
That's a good feeling.
I see.
Great.
It's a great emoting there.
And top-fright corner.
What the fuck's that about?
I didn't make the slide brother.
I did you say this.
I did you say this.
Great quote from your, oh.
Well, the off-ling role in Han was the role
at suicide role.
Oh, I'm one of these three.
I mean, I thought you were talking about the baby picture being full of stuff like that.
No, no, no, no, no.
All right.
What the way, what is it? What is a strange award?
Like is the name of the wood stranger?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's the word.
Oh, okay.
We should be capitalized then.
The killier?
What?
What?
What's the award for?
We're looking to be the best offlaner.
Oh, okay.
Range award.
I didn't say that.
All right.
All right.
Yeah.
I can't, oh I can't buy this C.
Oh, it is of course,
Cam, wait for oats.
What was this Quaker Oats team?
How, what is that?
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Look at this, we did through the mental strike
of mid-deplase, you're so damn low.
You idiot's police stop running down the mid
and destroying your items at minute 15
or off the one of your 1000s game camp.
Yeah, had it in three out of three games today.
Did you play with Quinn?
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, I did.
I did.
a pattern with mid plays over any of them.
I will say this is very old.
I don't know who I played with but with the update in number.
This has like 5000 upholstens like a billion reason.
Because players like you in your role,
Harry played has so many.
Can I get it?
Round of applause.
Harry fires.
No, no, no, no.
Thank you very much.
Megato Twink, Kazun.
Yep.
Let me tell you.
Let me tell you.
Plus five.
Yeah, me.
Plus five.
Cos they don't really care.
Yeah.
That is, carries like underground, no, yes, I played a part with the two yellow sort of
rainplanes.
Teens for it, it can't be in the mid lane or was the most talked about it?
Not really, yeah, Morale.
No, we were going to call it by name, but I don't think.
Yeah, anyway, give it to that guy.
Sauce, mid laneers, often sauce.
Okay, players can be sauce, but mid laneers, they're the evening maniacs in the mid lane.
Well, while while you're in the mood, the drink from things, you've been on 17 different
teams doing it ranked them. Yeah, top three, but I'm three to show. In terms of what skill
fun, whatever you want. Okay, okay, okay, gaming number one. Okay. Okay. Yeah, for puppy
yeah, boy, come on. Actually puppy was on a game. So it's changing with Cinderella and
favorite team. Okay. Favorite team. Highest skill team. I like the second and
line team secret. Yeah, one in his prime and run. Ooh, that guy. He, he, what is
real bad? He was close. He was close. Lowest team in the ranking. He got
was there, Matamba man was there, last place T.I.
Where's him on my life?
Yeah, I didn't feel the bump that was pretty correct.
That's what I was going to show.
I mean, OG's missing, they should be bottoms.
Oh, you're right there.
Where are they?
Above.
Oh, they already got bottoms.
In terms of like my time in Dota 2, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Let's not bring those back.
Okay.
And then the next slide, the final slide, after time in,
Gabe coaching a shot again, a shot.
He's returned to talent.
Well, aspiring massage therapist, because who the hell is he,
That's like, I'm not even, that never happened.
I don't even know where that's false.
That's a false option.
I think it's Thompson.
Yeah.
And then of course, he, very little neckline you have there.
And would you go back to Coaching, Kesar?
That depends.
99% know.
No, it was the team that wasn't OG.
That the chance suddenly went from one to two zeros and I might be in.
All right.
There we go.
Any other questions about the PowerPoint, I think else you wouldn't be able to
I'm gonna need a stream, Kenji.
What's your point with stream?
I might stream again soon.
This dude's good.
If you copy the stress to the point, if you copy that.
Can we go back?
Can we go back?
Yeah.
This is real good.
Kenji is like a scene from like, Jura's P.
From like eight years ago, there's a brand I will not mention, but I've got one of their
recipes.
Hashtag this stuff.
Very good.
Amazing.
All right.
And our conclusion is like, please, T.
Yeah.
Kessu plays Dota. He had the front and
round of applause for Kessu. There we go.
That's not bad. Look at this.
Look at that.
Awesome.
Oh, I think it's a smart game.
We're going to close them on the smirk.
We get out of the pack.
There you go.
Yeah.
We're going to.
More smirk.
Shredon.
Get close up.
Close up.
Wait, we're going to get out of the new ring.
I'll put it in the new ring.
You for the camera.
Ha ha ha.
That may be a good idea.
I don't know how you didn't get it.
I don't know how you didn't get it.
I don't know how you didn't get it.
They had cost in the live action tingled movie right there,
I said, that's small, yep.
Well, look, maybe you can give us a more inside
of info, though, on Nave and Yendix,
because I really don't know how to pivot from a PowerPoint
like that into a game for a draft in a best of five
for the grand finals.
There's always that extended break between Game 3 and 4 in a best of 5, which maybe
not so many of us are familiar with considering best of five's are only for grand finals,
but not in this Blossom format. And that's what's given Navi a second chance you're at making
it to the grand finals. Well with it there is always a small metadvelopment with it when it comes
to draw off the vibe of being band-out does for the first time leaf razor in the pool to get picked
up by Navi. Who again for the first time are getting first pick in his best of five?
I have the electric whipman made it through.
They also banned out the earth's earth.
So overall, pretty nice set up here,
Mr. Quinn-Kala-Han wouldn't you say?
I would say that, Mr. Gouten.
I think, I think, raise your hand.
Gouten?
Did you not watch the recent PowerPoint?
I can't have German pronunciation.
I can't.
That was more than your pronunciation.
Why do you left out some letters?
I don't know if I'm reading.
But that's OK.
That's like, before that as you missed.
OK, what about that?
I don't know, I couldn't think of one of the spot.
I think Shen is good against Razor, and I think this is not that great of an opening
for Navi.
I also think Shen is super good for Yennex, and if that same characterization of Gigafire
that enables the Watson Hero down the line, so we get to the best game matchup, if I'm
Yennex, I'm happy with this even though Razor is a Gigahiro.
I just want to see Navi have a layering of just stuns and ways to actually play out fights,
which isn't on this kind of invisible climate,
whereas we have an executed,
we can never actually engage again, right?
Already, I think Chen puts that down on the table.
We are going to run into an aura problem,
Chen does the job by himself,
and our alleviates the pressure of Malik.
He can then think about, you know,
I complain act right by one aura and fight.
Other heroes that might even know
what are by any aura are now in the cards as well.
So that is, of course, the strength of Chen in the lineup.
What do we feel about the, like the Watson heroes?
I mean, we won't truly know where the Razor goes,
at least for now.
I know that they all can play it if I'm not mistaken.
I don't know if they flex it in multiple roles
in this event, Navi that is.
But if you play against Razor,
you generally want here so you can stand there ground,
even if you do get sucked by him, right?
You like some span or other like Rintio said,
while he runs in, you keep hitting him back.
So like, you have wevers,
I think a kind of sum of the options you can have.
And Seth is obviously banned out.
Yeah, I mean, there's stuff like drought
more fling, like more fling is like the YWATS and Hero. Yeah, I didn't
tempo our sass and his good against Razor, as long as you're not
whining against him, even if you're laning, you can still be okay if you have
some strong fight to help you get out. I mean, I would like the more,
maybe not in this game, just because they have Chen, and maybe Chen
more of it is a bit more like XD, and picking it in the next phase would
expose you a bit, but I feel like more from general as a Hero, we don't really
see at all. I do feel like there's room for this Hero to be played.
I'm going back to the TA for a second.
Like, crazy used to be a hard counter to TA.
Is, would you say TA is better because of, you know,
Pike and other ways in which they're displayed?
Or do you think so think the one we want matchup is?
Like, why would you say that TA is now playable into the Razor?
Uh, I think that was sort of old Dota where TA was made.
I also, yeah, that was pretty crazy.
But all the ways you've been made,
if I like to play his moves and stuff,
but now TA has blinked you of Pike
And you just give massive mobility tools.
I'm not exactly sure even all the things to change, I think.
The way it looks for Fractor works, you have more stacks of the action damage, so it helps you actually melt through him.
People also got better playing TIA, I think.
I'll talk about that, like there's like the extra more attack range and the fast.
So it's just hitting the trucks as well, I guess, like small things like that.
Yeah, it's just hitting the hazard.
I've got a ton of stuff.
Now, these go back to the wall look.
And they take the tiny, so of course, the tiny for a bit,
raise it for a bit.
And the draft has the layering of quite skirmish, right?
I think, but it's going to play into the game.
I don't feel like the D3 heroes.
After the six minutes of the 7 minutes of leaning,
I'm like, okay, now they have to wait.
They're either heroes that can go together,
make moves happen, like play on a kind of port wave at the 10-minute mark.
I'm seeing Puppus, but these three heroes.
Yeah, I mean, I also think Warlock is just
a very, very good hero for Navi.
I'm not sure why they shot away from the last game
instead of just running it back.
I also think it's really good against Mars.
He's got the big arena, P-5, the little little wall.
Warlock has the same thing.
You can sort of counter that.
And it also means you have a very strong landing.
It's that Mars will be no pressure there.
Got the extra silver free lane,
which I think you really, really want.
So I think it makes a lot of sense.
And it also balances the team fight
with Rays, or Rays, or Rays, or Rays,
and have that much timing.
As in spells, the Nastoric came level if you play.
The Nandex have been up the Hosska,
I think, oh, oh, no, no.
But it still no one's here for the update.
But they've already covered the stuff.
He wants it.
Here's the one for the one for the one.
This is, in my opinion,
the Saksa is like the best more to support player.
They also have the chance of flexing this hero.
Watson is very good playing this hero from the carry position.
And more to us kind of died off,
we saw her a few times in the group's play,
as a carry.
I still think it's a very potent role for the hero as well,
Also, you know, puck more to a very good combination. You can like break the coil. You have good setup for each other.
I like the stubble pick a lot from your hands.
I just like that, you know, the ground silence and you've got a reeners and then coil it.
It's just so much best to deal with and for Navi, like Razor is a hero based on the ability.
You're kind of walking into the middle of the fight.
If you're going for Oror as the save of an off-lane or a mid,
you're not going to have to be as early and you kind of just get killed.
From a canneral, you have to make sure your BKB usage is really clean.
So, yeah, I think they are just trying to threaten the rage on how you actually want to kind of get into the fights.
I mean, Ember is classic matchup against puck, I think over time, the matchup is shifted,
it used to be a max slide and you spend it down.
Slide has been nerfing to the ground so you don't really want to max it that much anymore
so it's become shield max and 414 is the classic Ember build so the shield max lets you
actually man up on the puck summed.
I think when you don't have stuns in your team it can actually be a puck side of matchup
but with the tiny you actually have some kill for it.
number allows you to have a free lane, you've got good skirmish and good fighting and
these heroes, the pair is very well with Warlocker, you also still have to kill right in
the tiny, so I like it a lot and it's very, very neat to me, I think a neat move that
I think this is the second best tier after your puck, so I like it much more than the
flying snake.
Yeah, and it gives this way to play out the early game where you aren't that, you could
argue that these heroes have lots of control, but the damage is not really there, it's
like the final little combination, if I can't imagine like breaking the coil, maybe when
the pockets of which blade and then press more often, but it really is quite a nice window
as the game for novelty to try and push the limits and threaten the index.
It's also just nice with Razor, like to just have a little like more, you know, like
cheap lockdown that he can like follow up on, I will say I'm a big fan of like the
elusive heroes like Park with like some soft saves.
Like Chan, you know, you have hand of God, you can pop the vinefavor, you have like a
mech potentially as well, like around the mid game.
So even if you do get gone on with like the more squishy or type heroes, you can still
will be saved, because I think Pac himself is already insanely good hero.
If he is any type of backup like this, it allows him to play even more freely.
Yeah, in Pac-Word he has Pac-Hif, his face shift, he has all his legs, no he has a chin,
he has an arena, he's going to go out and go out and go out and go out and go out and go out.
Yep, it's pretty good, pretty good.
He's a lot of stuff.
And the Razer still remains flexed for now, so it could be carry and they replaced the
offline, but they're not going to get to see, yeah, and I just carry her almost likely,
So, oh, definitely not.
Most more of those carriers, but they won't know that.
So, having to pick it blind,
we've seen a couple of times,
p.m.a.s, that's a pretty rough time in the lane.
I think if they can have something solid,
it is massive for an obvious,
because I think they've shown the potential
to snowball if they can have a little bit more forward
to do something solid, like a tide hunter.
So, a big beefy boy doesn't care about the chin,
can tank the moths.
Again, we would ask the puck through tini and the tism degree.
I just want to see PMA, hold up for LOP.
Definitely not a bad option.
Centaur is still in the pool as well.
It's a little bit worse if I think in terms of one-to-one matchups, not creating
it's more as good as you'd penned in, so that it's done PMA is not quite as useful.
But I agree with something tanky like that is very, very good.
They've been nice and mix of damage between their heroes, I think you can run it to potential
scaling matchup issues with Razor Carrier against Blind Matchup, but they did bend the
more fling so they do understand that they want to protect that razor a little bit.
I mean I'm just trying to think if I'm missing anything else I do like the tide because I think
some of the other ones he has play they don't look as good. I mean you guys did mention the
center. I think PMA is also quite good on primal but I think there's also some issues like
while it's good against Chen and if the worth of where to go carry you're quite good against that
matchup but I think pockets quite annoying for you. You do give your team like some
Martin fight which is nice because yeah right you have Razor who's obviously good early
but then the other surface like you rely a lot on tiny going in the Emperor going in with some
fatal bonds. Manel man is out. Manel man is gone but a lot are still available and with the
more fling ban. Slot a stroke with a lot into that hero. You then unpop the damage of
Emperor and Razor. The Razor character if you're my honest sometimes you can feel like you
need a bit more of that assistance with your damage so I could see that being an option but into
the 10 when he has the by favour and then what's with all you can have a really kill him
when she gets the auto so maybe it's not the best but I can see it helping other people in the
draft. I just don't know who's team maybe would want to play here.
Ed's too excited. Like the primal is not bad but I think they have some magic damage redundancy
with the primal. Okay so there's been some great draw. It's an amazing
P.A. game. It's super good against all four heroes. Warlock P.A is a bit of a crap combo because
you can't really use the heel to do that much damage, but P.A will do totally fine and
length will make a free farm and got to use this very, very comfortable and confident on this
hero. And these these heroes, this draft is a very Navi draft. They may not have some classic
blinks on initiator, but I don't think they need it. They have enough skirmish and enough stuff
to go in that I think the scaling and just I don't know I think simplifying their gameplay
flying on heroes are comfortable on which I think they all are on all these heroes.
I like this a lot more than last game and I think they're I think it's very nice for them.
If a peer may be alright the last time he played Razer was actually in 2024 when he was
still not a junior before they got promoted so it's not really here that he's competitively
looking in looking at even through the occasional error of a mob playing it and kind of trying to
popular is it for the team so yep this is gonna be a very different style for
P&A but yeah like we mentioned you've already got an equal in the M-B you
really got the kind of the playmaker so and I think P&A has to fill that role but
again new here if it hit the pick up for the last couple years I mean I've
wonder where to go from here what's it terribly it is a giga terribly again yeah
we haven't seen this hero a lot because you do need very specific like you need
the versus the pick type of game but you're super good against Razor like this
This year is not running into your stealing your damage, you're insanely good against
EA.
You're a very high armor against the straffed as well, and you have waveshelds.
To be clear though, this tarablet fully uncontested, act blastslet.
Not even bad once.
Not even bad.
I just load up the notes.
It uncontested.
She's a little tarablet.
Ah, here's just been forgotten about.
Into Watson rocks up and goes, again, into TA.
Into what you've mentioned.
It makes sense.
You also naturally can go like pike in the items to do with the razor.
You eventually get mad to scardy when razor goes in.
goes in, so thank you very much. Of course, clings I think has filled the role of
a Terabyte dozen drafts where you get this boiling point of big range damage, and that's
why I think maybe you've had to go and bought this hero, but yeah, on paper it looks like a
good terribly game, and I do want to go back to the point of the damage that they have. It's
a lot of scaling damage through items and levels, and that's why I'm looking at Navi,
you need this atmosphere to thrive. I have Coach CY with me, and there's a couple of questions
since I have to ask, do you want to click shout-outs to fans?
Shout-outs to the fans on the crowd.
Okay, that was a great one.
I do, yeah, I have to ask.
Best of five situations.
Not something that you're used to with the boys and such a young
roster and everything.
With the extended break between game three and four,
what's the mood, divide, the talk,
how you handling that as a coach?
So like now it's already been a bit back and forth.
Like first games we got stomp.
Then we stomp them kind of.
It was like more and even game but to be honest,
they had like a better draft in terms of when the game is in that state and we kind of missed our window.
So I think in this kind of situation, my experience is like about resetting.
It's about going out and like, you know, just neutralizing the situation kind of like understanding what was the flaws in our draft, like not saying about specific moments like you did this bad, you did this bad.
More about resetting understanding we're going to have a new draft.
We're going to try to fix what we identify as an issue.
In that moment and I think we have the time so we'll see if it plays out.
I like that and it's also the first time you guys are getting first pick in the draft.
So it's normally been the other way round with this your choice. How comfortable you guys with this
would and why that change up. Also I think now we had a second pick quite a bit. We're quite
the I would say we're quite confident on like both sides but since we played three matches
now with it and like we lost to Wofdom it can be nice to switch it up a bit just to like you
know make it a bit different for them as well because you could say you kind of have a little
little upper hand because you're one-two games in that
situation. So it's like on us, you know, to come up with something new again.
So in some cases it can just make it a bit easier to switch it up with the point of
thing.
Yeah, and look, getting the Razer on the first pick. That's not necessarily anything new,
but we've seen it in offline. It's failed. Sometimes it takes a little bit of time to wind up.
Do you guys play it differently? Or is it how we've seen it before and competitive?
That's the same sort of style you're going for now.
Like, we're played with the wooden scrims already, so it is like natural for us.
But I'll say in terms of builds, it kind of depends on the game.
I would say, like you have to raise a player,
you have to understand bills pretty well, I think.
Like, it's something I think about the two of them.
All right, well, then we'll let the game do the talking,
as much as I love hearing from you.
It is a game number four in a best to five
between Navi and Yandex.
the
in the number of grand finals
throughout their major winning attendees,
also multiple TI grand finals that they showed up in.
But, eh, Avery, see why alluded to the fact
that they felt like they fixed what were their issues
and in the previous games.
So what do you think their issues actually were
and how did they fix them?
Think the number one was just general local down playmaking.
They didn't have a hero that could just start
getting start, smokes, enter the fight casually without some big like BKB Dragon Knight
is in and that's it. And either works or not. And I think they got that with the Ember. They
got it with the support tiny here. They have multiple front liners in this draft. So I think
they changed that drastically. And just a faster lineup overall that is not going to have to
hit some or a mid game timing or it falls off. There's a lineup that can skirmish. It can fight.
It could take up check this with the TA, but it could also scale a little bit nicer across all three
cores and give you the index a run for the money at any point in this game. It's a very well-rounded
lineup. You know, it did come down to a battle of the carries. The panel is pointing out that a
dream TA game turned into perhaps an even more dreamed error-blade game, especially for Watson,
as this is he's heroes. Most played hero has quite the win rate on it, has quite the history
with the hero, do you feel like the Terrible,
the Ultimate Lasst bake was the trunk card,
do you think they have the advantage in this round?
Very hard to know because a hero is an old weird state.
He's probably the weakest he's been in maybe a decade of Dota 2.
You know, not the exact weakest, but he is down there in the bottom
of your percent of patches he's existed.
On paper, very good matchups. Like this is a free
three tear blaky any terribly player will tell you give it to me in this lot all one
be five you know solo levels to all I don't care about anything pure anime mode but
this hero is just not what it used to be it can get drunk a bit more people can out
scale it the games go late in with six lots not as strong as he used to be with six
lots of relative to the rest of the pool is he just dead here right away I think so
this is only well played by Navi they set up the trap to gain him initially he's
Force and T.T. out to lane, really is my die, buying blocking isn't good enough, now he
does get the Paranth kill on Reddies, but they put so much damage on the Tairblade, that
was guaranteed win.
They either kill him, underneath tower, or they could have also snaked his career, which
was bringing the Tango's out, either way, he was left in a terrible starting position for
this lane, which is already not the most straightforward lane, given that he's matched up against
a ranged offlaner in Razor.
Well, Malady, you're the carry now.
Terrible is going to walk out the base.
Absolute destruction for Watson earlier.
Not what he wanted with this last pick, and another good fast start for Navi.
Exactly what they want.
This is a line up.
This is the closest line up. Oh, they spear back to him.
Yeah, that was beautiful. Got the juice.
We had a couple of tower shots almost dying as a result.
But Warlock heel though is keeping him shoved barely alive.
Another thing I think this line up for Navi is the most similar to that game too.
Okay, where I can just snowball really quickly get out of control, condominate the lanes,
give a lot of kill for it, a lot of playmaking, might be another kill on Malady, yep, I mean we're seeing right here like
I think they've already gotten more action done in the first two minutes here than they didn't
first ten minutes of that game three that just felt very slow and clunky.
So would you go so far as to say you were actually gathering on the off of draft?
I
I
Yeah, a little bit, it's a very fine margin.
I always have trouble betting against Chen Man, and he's just such a stupid hero like
I say so stupid, he turns every line up into some Uber scaling line up, because everyone
just has one of the ors behind them, he can accumulate so much farm, he can buy whatever
you need. I hate saying that you can, like,
part of you thinks you can't really win the draft.
They can't. Because you're just playing a Chen
you. So it's kind of a move point. You know,
neither can I play Chen or not. But it doesn't help that
this hero is very strong right now. But I also think the best
teams right now very often times have some of the best
Chen players on them, right? Like, you give this to certain
teams, right?
Melody is a great chen player, but you think like Falcons, right?
Give that to Sneaking.
Oh, that feels like an auto win for them, right?
You've got like mouse, you know, mouse and there's no ball that they do.
You can't really afford to give them chen if it's too well up to their playstyle.
It just fits too many teams right now.
Tune the teams have a really good chen players.
That's why I say you can't really outtrap it because I think if you ask any of these
premier chen players, hey, if you get chen, do you think you could lose?
They're all going to say no.
And they're all gonna force the hero.
So therefore, none of them think that the draft really matters for them when they're all in this heroine.
Oh, I feel that is a massive kill.
What a mehaka, Niku, getting the solo kill on Chira Jr. and it super healthy resources too.
just guess a piece he's doubling this yes warm down slates chains he's just dead
this is a rough start for the puck well perhaps another part of this game that
looks similar to game two after all game two went Navi's way largely off of
Niku making such a massive leaning phase wing out of that kez in poker match up
now getting a lead over to your junior's puck as ember.
You know, watch it this series the OG series earlier and you see her yesterday as well.
I mean, drained and will buy yet. Again, boy, this safe lane is not working at all for them.
I feel that more of these games are just coming down to people getting on their comfort
heroes instead of the weird overcooked picks.
Like to me that's standing out in this tournament
at least as more important than,
oh I got you with some clutch counter pick.
Oh I just get something that you can outplay people
with, don't put your mid player on some weird hero.
Because we've seen a lot of mid players trying to
to cook with some of these weird niche picks.
Now I don't have to see a single one really workout.
But he just puts some of these guys on their classics
and they don't go to work man.
well see the this off lane for Navi kind of goes against that narrative we heard rocks
in talk about how PMA hasn't really played that much razor off lane quite some time
and Watson is on supposedly is comfort of all comfort heroes and yet they are getting
thrashed in this lane phase. That start was pretty brutal. Yeah it's pretty hard to come
back in the lane after how went down the start also PMA is a razor player doesn't
play a lot competitively, but it's very high level in the heroine.
You can execute, see if it's a meta and a
with the meta, but they just do not have the
disables to ensure the meta gets real value out of it.
And he's still getting denies over Wads in too.
Stevie has not worked out in the late days, so I'll have to
switch where some way it's get far and make his come back later.
And it is going to be a fat ember spirit that can potentially
take over the map as Navi doing their usual
The usual, 7-3 heroes mid.
I think we're looking for the real light doing.
Meet off chains into the toss.
Good chance done with the fatal bonds.
Adding some extra damage here.
Still going to chase after a Niku with the level 6,
though the winning rift gets them just far enough away.
They may not have gotten the kill, but they'll get a lot of damage on this mid tower.
And they'll save to your power run as it does spawn.
Bottom a shield run for Niku.
It's a good move.
The Sables got a little stacked,
but you got what you wanted for.
out you want it for you got the power you got the power damage you're going to force
puck the base it's still a victory you can hold the next way thanks to the shield
room front through it line the creep wave to protect that's he flag and go to last
back stocks that nearly spawns with the silence though makes things a little bit
harder to get the rest on to can showing these heroes keep an hammer spirit
by the he's being healed up and the and X just do not have the heroes to full commit
the
coiled down and burgo's to base is going to heal up the full is going to come back this vessel is going to come out very quickly in this game
seven of the wisdom shrines falling and I'll be they want to invade they want to get both they want to snowball this game beyond the point for the action recovered
into the list of shrine area they are going to be fighting into the calling which is going to be difficult
okay got to choose in science. They make that move they force a reaction but they don't over commit for it.
Speak that you had to come secure that that is potentially a move that can work out for
an obvious especially if they were able to get the end of their. Where did it devastate?
And Nico, when you put him in a situation where he is able to win the lane like he does,
he's also really good at transitioning that into tower pressure.
You did it on the Keds constantly with the Blight or whatever, hitting the tower over and over again.
And now we've seen Ember spirits do this.
They win their match, and they just chip away at the mid tower until it's gone.
He supplied a lot of pressure in these games.
That's all I'm saying.
Just give him a hero we can cook on.
I was starting to care what the match of his just whatever he's confident and based on what
He sees, let him go for it, because he is really owning these lanes.
We all should get another power on here too.
Way too difficult for Yandex to stop this Ember in a haste room.
It's a good one. No purges in this game.
Let's attack the arena on the map right now.
Bottom lane's just been abandoned.
Watson in the jungle game. How did that find?
Science, look at the toss back, toss him into the Ember spirit here.
They'll run him down, Watson.
He's a bubble six off the new troziddy.
Oh, what a sick move!
What a sick move from Watson, having the awareness of how close he was to six finishes
it off on the new troziddy.
That's a massive play in this game.
I mean, that is such a big swing.
From losing your terribly and probably some other heroes to Hastry and Ember to killing
the most powerful hero in the game.
What a heads up play from here.
It also very clutch silenced from socks,
that you'll see the silenced hits the ember.
Then you get spirit into another silenced.
He never gets a slight off here.
Might just kill Walsen.
Straight up.
And now, super good.
They have, or trying to, anyway, punish,
not be being overly aggressive
in this situation spirit doesn't match me, am I?
You could just keep you away.
They can't get the damage done.
That's just enough.
That is a disalloying.
That touch out just too late.
That could've been so good for Walsen's game
kill the embersphere and then also kill that razor who's been plaguing through the
landing phase, but a bit of a trip up there from the rest of Nandex.
I can't leave you got out of like that now, this is so close.
Those are a little bit tower going down because no one's there to defend it and I'll just
about finish up the vessel for Niko, so he's still mega far, super strong on the map.
and they're just ransacking these tier ones similar to game two right take all these tier ones super early
open up the indexes ancient camps specifically but also the stacking and just invaded don't let them play this economy
this is a very good style against you if you could execute it
to see PMA trends into drums into crimson guard bill for this game great crimson guard game
that's for sure like this is the seems like the car filled this game just build the
or is you're not going to be a great damper stealer to terrible it anyway there's a
bunch of chin armor just hope your records let me go to
and look at about the juice took that offline tower
he just moves in he's living inside the the triangle now
door was wide open then you're just going to go up there place a bunch of traps can always come back
get ready for the other
Oh, he's a pretty chanty, you know, you got respect, you know, respect what this chant can do.
Go up, pop to see the Seatwagon. Bottom lane, they're going to clear this out and get a lot of damage.
I mean, the fact that they're even thinking about hitting tier 2's.
And chipping away at them at 11 and a half minutes in, I mean, this is such a fast pace that novice bringing it to this game.
They don't even have the level 6 on socks at you.
They're just operating with so much space right now,
and in maladies in their jungle,
taking up some boundaries that were never claimed
because no one's been devolving.
So a good play from him to start taking some farming
at a safer location, which is not the side of the map.
Because no one has absolutely invaded the end of the space.
And that's what you want to do against these greedy or carries.
Watson just once time, you want to camp,
you want to do you left alone, you're helping his face.
It's not a hero that wants to be fighting this early,
It's just going to get every power room for the summer.
Another great one here in the bottle for Niko.
Might be time. That melody might need to start. Okay, cut the cut down a courier and
Starts making a run for let's see if Niko can successfully hunt him down. I
Almost feel like a melody might need to start cutting waves with the the crepes he's got so aggressively position
They're gonna get melody here no doubt about it slight chains and the avalanche being held in just in case
see kill well space created yeah
for all you can do in this game
space club though this two-man smoking from church in your insoxa
may not net anything if pma
does not push down line but he is going to do that he is going to be spotted
by and it's the team is backing up though they don't make a fast move on a pma
pma is going to have back up here over the atmosphere in the time you try to get in your
and time, rattling it over the top, catching three different heroes, PMA is making his way
away with a plasma field.
Now, Watson has to depend on the Sunder, does manage to get off in the embersphere, that's
good enough PMA chases down Soxa, while Watson makes a break for a through the left side,
Niku.
Stops him with the chains.
Zion's kinda too much in the way.
He's looking for another toss back, but D-Pace should just be happy with what they got, saving
the Razor and killing Soxa.
Great response, not even giving any space.
Not excuse.
He's going to be fine.
If he ran left and ran to the mar,
he would have died, but realizes the error of his direction there.
Move away from the mar and get to what?
There's the blink for Malik.
They really need to this.
So they have another core to jump in these fights
and the tributary takes some space back.
For their terrible atus,
being forced into early kill attempts
and engagements he doesn't really contribute a lot towards.
very tough to kill this ember on the map. And as we saw the razor with early
Vanguard drum, Crimson Rush, he's also going to be tough target to go on. The
puck's just not offering you. Nearly the same damage this ember is with the
vessel buildup right now.
Hop 3 net worse across the board, razor topping out the chart, even over the
completely free farming Templar assassin of got the juices. It's pretty crazy.
3-0-2 with 130 sales to do that. Perfectly, if it's here for PMA.
I mean, this game has almost been too fast for knobby because it's got so much back control.
It feels like so much dominance, but it's also feels like a little bit early perroge.
When it swaps over to the other side, maybe got the juice with his deso will
the look for an opportunity to take it.
Meanwhile, this back lane, Malik and Soxa come back through the gate,
but look at Zyase's position.
He's got a break in, okay, they spotted him, though.
Look at him off the spear, change's done up,
and the gods are bugged if finish him off.
That was a very delicate smoke,
because they could have jumped the razor bottom.
They chose not to feel, and they don't have to damage for him.
And then they have to go to this gate.
They find it isolated support.
Very difficult smoke to pull off.
and find a target that is killable with just the two of them.
Miku, as you said, very free game for Hensuken of the hyper aggressive and go beyond these tier 2's runs and the Maloney, that's a freebie.
Is this a tier 2 go on? This would be...
Even more capture, so really the game.
We're trying to find out about 10 seconds and he'll be up till he's used to go open but they make the initiation anyway.
Going for the roll-off here with the spear and the silence making sure there's no going drop.
Nicely played initially with the catch-on in 10th-lar assassin.
This is just a beautiful open and silent.
Yeah, the call-off for it.
Okay, that is.
It's an over-aggression from the lobby.
Do you even get the tower just kind of clumping for this arena jump?
probably feeling like they can live a go-long get-strop and there's a heal but the
Warlock gets nothing off he's perfectly stunned into the calling into
a tentacles of the deep and why it's Warlock meaning to hit the tower man exactly.
A lack of discipline here for pretty- there's no reason he should be up there.
It's just too casual.
You feel like you're ahead.
You feel like you're still in this game.
You don't think they're gonna come fight you so you're just kind of lazily hitting the
tower.
We've all been there.
And guess what?
Yeah, you're gonna sit your team fire up there. Let me jump in first. I'll take that every day
We're not that weak. We're not that far behind
Great team fight for them. Gotta respect this
More at the Mars combo. Like you get stuck in this calling you're gonna get that shop back into it
You might be stuck in an arena
There's a lot of silence in this game between the puck and the more though that can bring this effort down
And of course the roach with the cool mounts. They should get a guarantee here
and
combine that with dead shot in the calling it's kind of hard for them to stay in the pit against all this
fan
the things off with a T.A. slow down to catch socks up not to get your junior but they will use
quick out this area and go back to road. Track value right there. Yeah. Like it'll
always gotta clear out those tracks didn't run your high ground.
It's bought a lot of time for a year to go. There are a rough position out of it
holding that worth of yield. Which means they can let the terror blades split
push start to go to the work. Chendkins will push puck and split push.
There's a lot of rat in this lineup, if now be kicky, forcing the action.
You do have Ember though, that's a big difference.
Like, Nico, on Ember compared to the Viper,
he's gonna make it so much easier to deal with the ways
and so it look for opportunities.
As he can just clean up the bad lanes,
instantly rejoin the team.
Viper so much worse at dealing with this kind of pressure.
the
money getting that uh... roshan really didn't change the uh... total plus whatsoever
and this was once again that was heavily favoring naveel like a seventy five twenty
five game but
now it's pretty much back to even
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Navi with their aggression were hoping to be able to close this game out and pushes to a game
fine. But things have gotten a little sticky. That's a problem with their style, right?
It is very aggressive. It does allow them to run over the scene. But if they screw up just
one team fights so much of their percentage in winning these games is ripped away.
I do like to have more recoverability with this draft than the last one.
But I agree like that momentum can change really quickly
I mean like this
Not that I got the goal a lot I'm just insuring
You got to do what you got to do out here
And honestly
Now he is doing a lot of work like he is just permanently cutting this top lane
Drightening couriers, no one wants to go up here and deal with this. He is extracting a huge amount of net worth in this game
He's catching up to the Emperor here.
This is the Chen problem.
Like, yeah, maybe your cores are a little bit behind, but if they have an extra ore behind
them, sure.
Do you really have a lead in this game if you're not eating, probably not.
So you have to.
You have to watch this Chen's knower, how much he's getting on the map.
He's still cutting topways, nobody has gone up here for these crews.
I'll grab.
Tiny?
Yeah, they're going to commit to your arena for this one.
Trying to ensure it is watching.
Starts leaning into both these supports and the heals here.
Coming out, Bell.
They're doing his supports, you're just not easy pick up.
They're able to both walk out of the arena to spite a metamorphosis
Terrible at hitting them.
Okay, they were a lot tater than I thought.
Crimson Guard doing some work for sure.
Don't forget that act Legion shield. Yeah, so good.
That was a physical block. It's terrible. It's not hitting too hard yet. He's just just only got the man to
Still kind of the period where you can join fights, but he's not got to take him over
There's a little tormentor action shard for the tiny not the
Not the greatest shard game for now being
In terms of their supports, but some action at work, makes that graph look a little nicer there as the Shencuse pull and a head full pipe done for ballad.
I don't even see pipe time actually.
What?
That is absurd dude, 21 minutes of port pipe.
It's just going to be these teams like crashing into each other in nobody time between Crimson's car and all the value brings their pipe on the other side.
I mean, something not yet to consider as the itemization and utility this game.
The loaders are insanely good on the end of this.
Good cause of a lot of bombs. He just missed for it.
Well, he's probably dead.
And as you know, he has no more face.
You have to be the pack.
Do you see?
The GDW not dispels if, uh, nice and high.
If the enemies can get them up because your razors are susceptible to the loaders,
You notice your embers is up to the floor, this spawns gets removed.
There's a lot to dispel here, or one mind a couple.
Really, so one, you know, if you're gonna have to freeze on Shen something.
And early high ground ward immediately gonna be dewarded here.
That's felt like, uh, that was greedy.
That was very greedy, because even if he does get some sort of toss back play.
Right, it's not like all of a sudden they're gonna be hitting high ground, right?
I feel like, you could attack me, go ahead.
Hey, that's not an expider though.
That wasn't it, why is it?
You could though.
Well, you can't do a lot of things.
Unissue, I've got the juice as he just expires.
What a toss back!
Zyart's ready to go with the counterplay and got the juice he's getting out.
Beta bonds going is going to be dropping the team.
Not that nubby, you can really turn around and fight too much.
too much. Plus, it's so wounded, okay?
The spirit doesn't go there.
Coil it on, Volkou.
Maybe they can give this Ember spirit.
Got him out of silence, waiting with re-silence and control.
Just enough.
They could not kill the Templar assassin, but they still
net two kills three.
Actually, out of that fight.
I'll tell you one thing.
It has got to be a talk after this game where he'll lose.
We'll see what goes in here and goes, guys.
We cannot be hitting these towers so casually.
Like, you have to give more respect to
A team that connects to the fight's well, especially from a defensive standpoint, and has spearback in arena mechanics.
Like you're giving, valid.
Way too easy of openings here. I mean, it's a beautiful toss-aid, but you still end up losing three.
We're not even taking the fight.
It's one thing if you just lose the fight. If you get outplayed, at this point in the game is not being used to fight.
You know, you took your hat, that's whatever. But to lose three or four heroes around these towers,
you don't even get the fight that you want to be taken at this point in the game.
in the game, you're giving them too many openings, and the index are utilizing them quite well.
He spearbacks. They're tough to deal with here.
Navi can play for the next timing.
get double BKB's and then going to be came on the TN of BKB on the Razer.
That actually looks like Niko wants to make that a 30 BKB.
If they can hit that timing around this next robs spawn, they really strong for the
teamfight and off of the nages for how to get control of this game again.
Snow Control that goes through with this game, for Yandex.
It's a big weakness in their lineup.
That's one of the big things about puck Mars, like puck Mars is super strong.
strong, it pretty much ticks all the boxes, but the mid game into the BKBs can be really rough,
like so much of your damage goes out the window. So I do think this is correct on myization
from Navi and they are going to be super strong with that triple item timing, but you can kind of
just do whatever you want there. Get a next Rochon, you put an A just on this TA, you have triple
BKB you can take a fight into high ground. Just try and blow this game open.
Soxa stuck in the corner here. TPUA and they actually
Zia's win fromality. There's two options there. A few rows that we're going to TPUA.
stops now.
1 HP off-hold but no criticaling going on for the channel and also yes but slow down a little
good.
Yeah you could see Nico is putting in some serious effort going back and forth between
this twin gate trying to keep these sidelines pushed in, keeping the end decks from stalling
out the game like they'd like to do.
reaching into that Rochon period where the index
Probably gonna have to fight for this
They will have with completed sheavers on the puck
Decent timing Watson though pretty far away from his next item which he's thinking about butterfly begins to tee
It get that gunpower gone, although which I think always feels super nice
Because you look for damage
There's a lot of back with a link on a very nice
A lot of fun. He had to just rotate with that start to it
Kind of late roast spawn. Unfortunately for now be here, but they could play with for more
Got him off the Atlas and toss him in the air the spear goes through stopping off the choos though and now she was out from here as you're
He's gonna be okay with watching joining in the fight with this meta. This could be
Devastation Navi though still getting a really good link on PMA trying to finish off this mar as he comes back down from the
The all sorts of spear to push back off the juice, PMA sticks on to over the flies and feels
not quite enough.
It does not take him and the Mars survives.
They get through once again, the Mars is just making beautiful initiations or counter
initiations in this case, that spear catching up the juice saving tier of Junior's life
and setting up a pretty decent arena.
It's just the damage isn't quite there yet.
Jumping forward, Junior's not going to let him go way peaceful with your Watson still chasing
with the meta.
Bring down one PMA, cutting the leaf there,
right in the middle of all these years,
Bob's BKV, essence ring, makes a run for it.
Nothing stopping, he goes for a TPU,
wait, last couple of hits,
he wants it or not, gonna be good enough.
Now cheer Jr, chasing after Niku.
And with a silence, now with the rules,
and the spirit of follow it up,
knock down a lantern, science,
bail out Niku.
Niku is able to run it himself away.
Had Yandex got enough out of this,
that they can be the ones to do Rochon.
not with me to where now to risky to go for that you don't have a B.C.B.
heroes either so if it comes down to a roach collection battle you're gonna lose that.
I could sequence for Yendex they hold their crowd they get a couple kills he's
a renaissance of an amazing malady going for I don't know what that player is but he is absolutely
toasted that well let's get out of the end let's get a little greedy try to take enemy
It's got to be careful.
He has back in a way a little bit says the rest of Yandex got which team the TA was on mkb
Don't say I'm safe there
He's chillin all that to you, Charlie
Did he pick up the shard yet? No, he didn't
Kind of interesting because there is no disple on this puck
And the TA shard could be nice. I mean, he's just ramping up the damage mkb
done. That is done before the butterflies even out for lots and so.
D on you. Do you ever think, okay, do I not code butterfly like if he still had his
gold, if he hadn't bought the eagle song, would you swirbing those scotties? You can
hear butterflies already address. Potentially, I've also seen people just go
Swift blink. Oh, yeah, I'm not sure how much I believe in that pivot, but that is the other pivot with the seal so I can take
The thing is the butterfly still just super go. I mean, like it's it's a high damage item. Yeah
It's not like it'll do it right clicking early either, yeah, so it's still it's so
Jared Junior, top-backed to God the juice of Golem, layering this stuns as best they can,
quail the hold and back as Jared Junior chants to his org, links up, T.P.'s away the
inverse spirit, can he get up on this way? Chepets he got him!
Nico there! Stop the T.P. out now, Jared Junior, all he can do is try and pull them deeper
and deeper inside the base, but he is gone. Rats get in caught right now.
Now, be shrinking a little bit, this embers doing some work.
Clean up some bad lanes, letting them make some moves.
Malady.
Raps out of tower.
So they'll have DKB Razor VKB TA that's been done for a while.
The other one was going to be the embers, though.
He can kind of pull in an audible here, so see what's she goes first
So it will be a dead overcubbinism in Tori
Okay, kind of sucks
But you can always build something over the later
Well, I don't give a time for a socks that you can feed is at me
Which will be very nice, especially with the puck oil
It's good with arena good with coil. You don't get the two charges any more of that kind of sucks
at least it's a 25 but getting 25 on support worth is way more difficult than the 20.
So it's normally where I'd say Yandex kind of want to fight
with the butterfly terribly but because the T is so far ahead
and he has an ages it's not really that much of a timing right now
I don't think they can. I think they do what they've seen from the spearbags and they
everything is it's actually too dangerous almost got the spear back on to
go up the juice here instead catching the warlock inside the arena now got the
juice they're trying to work it their way through this ages to take a while
with Salem even the once the MA come down from low ground good
clasper if you'll delete things off now because almost dead pops the
KB trying to keep the MA from getting too much here it's technically
only gets a little bit lost and trying to put some damage on you can
not sure who to hate here need to thunder in a second here good
That was not the center at all if you had popped it on got the juice maybe
It's could have been okay, but Yandex taking the fight outside the base does not go well for them at all
Chero Jr. is gonna try and cut the creeps where he can
Well, he's got to get out with the wrist and his life and tag when he could just keep on chasing him on the emperor spirit
Now hitting with that silence
Military T.A. trap silence got him in the end
Oh, as Chero Jr. is unable to jump away
not be. They may have lost their Razer, but they still have that A just intact and they could
go straight to the high ground. A TA was so tanky. Nobody is punching through that guy.
They are tough initiation there for you. Especially since you have each assault time anyway.
And then you just sacrifice your formation. The Razer gets a good flank.
Ember is dicing up your backline. There he gets put damage going into that terrible.
like all three cores did a thousand plus so it wasn't like one year one in a room
of the last six day it was the whole team effort just bringing him down doesn't get
the good slender and that's the fight now he really put in this game that'll break
the base easy rags here they are scaling man scaling well across all three
these cores it's gonna be a very tough game for Yandex to try and go ultrulating
and they can, but these fights are just looking difficult.
Like, what is the damage going to this tier?
I don't see any.
I'm hit through, but it's, it doesn't exist.
So that's a very worrying time.
They're all the bring down PMA, but he's just wars in distraction anyway.
Like, this is not the party you want to force all the damage into early home.
So a lot of concerns in this kind of scene fight that he and X need to solve, even end up losing the fuck at the end of that too.
Flight change, deep off on the high ground, given vision for his team, he's going to be sounds.
A number of times here.
So he'll be stuck up on that high ground because he doesn't want to have to use BKV.
Zyath's, he's just going to go up here, gets pinned, but it's pinned to low ground.
No, they push her back up. That was a two-play from tiered juniors with the psychic headband super nice
Okay
That was a that was a top-higer. I just walk up there even though you're a fool. We're keep timing
And XVary ready to defend that's falling
And you're getting close to dataless on walls, and that'll be a big damage up right here
So it prads off of the puck.
It was probably the two closest big damage upgrades for them to
try and take this T8 down in the middle of the fray.
Because got the juice is almost level 25.
Yeah, I was gonna say like, and they even hit him like you get the extra damage,
but if you get extra refraction instances, he kind of stays the same level of taking this he was before.
See what a talent takes. Sorry, it does take refractions.
I do like this talent.
I'll try to scoff close to them these days.
It used to be 100% in our fractions, this is,
but, also, second, no bash is pretty toxic
in some of these matchups.
So I got free of this or something.
I think their fraction says, so 10 instances,
you gotta get through that is the top part
about this matchup for the terrible aid,
unless you can sit there with your illusions
and weigh a lot of them.
Sometimes you just end up not killing each other.
I don't know who keeps leaving these behind,
I swear I see double body room there get picked up by Hendax a couple times this game
Awesome over the T.A. Traps one activated the Andex
Well they've been spotted up here have to feel the rotation coming from Navi wants and TP back
See if everybody gets out the silence diets keeps on getting hit by it for the slight chances there to stop it
It's not the end for the hills just trying to buy a few extra seconds.
Getting tougher to wrap this map out.
Some TV illusions are able to do it, but nobody else has really been able to control any of these ways.
this is just need to fight in for lane control
rest of team is you're not in here
the team was coming in from behind so he thought he could just charge up there
you'll just go out on the templar assassin he blinks back
I mean one of the odds are also you don't know Hillary
that's probably what he's saying
Just the way they're all just sitting there probably farming camps or something all they're all sitting there
You got punished. It's a big punish
Got the gem back to so
Right in this is window of time where Rochon is responding to not that I I think it gives the index the strength to do Roch
No, they can't force it to the skin. There's no way
it. This TA hits way too damn hard.
We'll swift blink.
Just got a chopper luck.
He loses five or versus five.
These coming.
He's going to be able to get the spear back and PMA.
He's just going to die almost at the very start.
Just get a forestack.
Resets a little bit.
PKB and ETPs away.
Looks like knobby is calling the quits on this one.
Zients.
They'll be left behind.
But they do not lose their Razer, which was his close call actually maybe cheer Junior. He gets plus one out of this.
He's got blink dagger plus coil. He's gonna get the coil in the temple our assassin
And go on try to get that. Got the DKD on got the juice they killed the warlock
Got the juice starts back away to his tier two blinks over big damage hits the puck
face shift
Easy dog. Don't give you a chance. Right to
Watson
As soon as the DKDs are down one disabled one Watson can start going to
even PMA is not going to make it out easily, like Shane's holding back all of these heroes gives a chance actually.
Malik dies from that and it saves PMA who almost dies to his own repraction illusion.
Niko, BKB, last little instances of this he's got to get back up to the base.
As good as that slight change was the execution on Malik.
He is planned with fire here, poking at NX the way he is.
At the last time, the toss back on a loss in Watson who had already used his thunder still as a man to get through the change.
He had the opportunity.
Not the case.
I was about to say he's be careful going in there.
One silence you chopped up by this melee terribly.
He almost got the razor with some laughs.
It crits as well.
This TV dealing some serious DPS.
Not if you're just getting one down.
Never taking a solid formation of a fight.
Just getting chase.
Trying to hold BGD's popping them at odd times.
Almost gets the coils.
He gave these popping them at odd times, almost gets the coil snap with the psychic headband
there that would have been the cherry on top.
This ember is working them in the fight, but it's beautiful spears and arenas from
ballic.
I mean, he has been MVP for Yandex's game for sure, he is dragging it back from the
prank, just keeps finding these amazing initiations, and he's like the one tank he
most of the initial damage too. It's not easy for him to just go in. I think he
indexed lucky to get out of here and not overextended to December who had BKV, he
popped it, he got some work done, he's got chasing his terribly the tiny
respawn, it's it's looking murky here, like, so it's not the position
we want to be in with the metal on cool though. I know now, then just this pit of an
overcomment, they need to thought he would finally warn through everything lots
and had between the BKB and the Sunners, but...
and Pocka, demons being in.
They're all hanging around.
That's one of the things that may tear away a lot better without the meta,
as we can just demon seal with a couple of illusions.
Sometimes that melee DPS is enough to catch people off guard.
So this is being another five-man smoke from Bobby trying to regain control this game,
they want to get Rochon here.
They have a scan hitting an illusion that is going to misdirect them.
That's unfortunate and now it's me now I give it a little high-pressure
All eyes on the sparse
Got the initiation on the Templar fast and go and drop in return Malik repress on your beer back
Just beautiful on hisiation time and time again
From Malik, another arena still trying to chase after the cops to choose but the refraction
It goes off again and got the juice will manage to get out despite Malik
Right now, how the perfect jump, it wasn't quite enough.
Alright, I'm surprised it got the juice enough off EKB there,
and he got Spirit a second thought. That was insanely bold to hold that.
But then how does he get out there after he does get Spirit like that?
There's no fallout?
Not a damage? That's insane.
That's a very spooky moment for it, I'll be, though.
I think.
There's no buyback on this Templar's ass.
He goes down, that's Rochon, that could be the game.
It wasn't very big reach.
From all I click, he was very far ahead of the team on this play.
He was.
And he does get interrupted with the goal of this,
just where you could be.
He got the choosy chooses not to me.
Get scared, the coil doesn't snap.
And he walks this off?
What?
Well, Dodge a little bit.
DKB last long enough to get through another arena, and then the refraction goes off.
That coil stopped to you, it was just dead.
Yeah, that was very close.
A fast move from Navi trying to take out this Rochon before Yandex can scramble to defend
it, to head a creep inside the pit, so they had the heads up immediately for distance going
on.
Riddys trying to make this even faster with the upheaval of the attack speed from the
But it's not fast enough.
It's a hex on the Razor, that is a huge item against his podcast, though defensive item.
You're hinting showing not for seeing this one comment.
Could absolutely end his presence in the fight.
But you don't have to refresh all the bars right now, and you're waiting for that a two seconds.
It's been lanes pushing in and top lanes pushing in, but I'll focus on this Rochon.
It is going to switch over a minute, so nothing decisive happens here.
A Blanch on two, toss back on the Watson with the sight of vice there as well, committing
but he's only got him to half HP and wants to now pops his meta.
So see if he can get off the good Sunder near Gopter to try to put damage on, there's this
underback of the full health.
Beating is a PNAPMA is going to die here, wants him to half HP, another round of the
avalanche toss of a beer, almost dead.
What's going on?
Now, turns hitting Nico.
He's not going to die as well.
And he walks in triple kill up by back.
That's the before's.
Nico, call him for this kill.
And she has to run him down.
They finally get it.
And the block is well.
Through the buyback.
They will push through.
Yandex is heroes on this high ground.
They will take over this Rochon hit.
Three cores dead.
Support slipping away into the night.
But it doesn't matter.
Navi will get the Rochon.
Over well, mean.
Buyback right there for that number.
just so strong instantly come back in. The TA never went down. That's the biggest
fact that they're for Nabi. They keep the TA alive. That's why Niko's going in so
aggressively or he knows he has two lives. He wants to sit the fight up. Poor
got to choose who doesn't have to buy back in this entire exchange. They just
get to sit there and well and everybody. She's putting damage out the arena
messes with the little idiots you will. But there's no damage going into the TA
until the lighter half of this fight and by then it's kind of already decided.
You live, and that's the difference maker here, I'm surprised they kept Watson live as long as they did, but that is the power of the chettin' man.
It's guys got all those ore as on him. If he is another item there, he might win that.
Like if he has to obtain it or something, he has over 5,000 gold he could have bought out for that fight.
What are those interesting moments of what if...
of the
box of course to use here's the
nails got to juice
puts them under the gun
on being another lane of barracks they still have the tier two of top
of
the
the rules sure
I still get the buy out here if you're Watson like
I don't like buy back really does much for you in this game because
I don't know, you're terribly, you know.
Now, you're going to probably have to play into this member byback.
At least once more in this game, so you have to be able to stand your ground just last like the whole time.
That's either refreshers or Satanics or something in the slide.
Shen can usually see much feel like thunder isn't enough for him.
And I think you're right about the Satanic.
He did it at 25 tall, I don't know. I did not think he added it in that fight.
So now it's a 10 second set.
Those make out big difference here and they have that dream coil. So big level 25 talents.
There a big against his TA.
You got 25.
Amber level 25, the still little ways for the Razor, but that's part of the scary thing for this
not be line up, right? It's that they have, it's not just the Templar Assassin. Both their
horse are scaling up in EQ and PMA, and their supports are just fantastically came supports
like Warlocky and Scales up, and then Tiny is always good with his toss reposition.
Scary supports for sure. You get tossed in and then Warlock punishes you for trying to follow up.
These two have always worked really well together and double-glimmer-caped as well.
Lock up these carries though, if one team can get on top of the other carry and take them
out earlier, it's probably going to decide to play.
Well, teams are very damaged depending on these one positions.
Maybe Characters Jr. can start picking up some of that load with like ultra-lake game
part with these crazy coils that could be an X-factor here for sure.
It's got a lot of gold.
Looks to buy out a refresher, so double,
deep off immune piercing, dream coils with eggs.
You know, your options are refresher, the lake game, you know,
or you can go meal near Dados to buy something in that territory.
I also am...
...we're not buying Divine Repture here.
Just go for the big play, try and bring some of these heroes down in the coil.
PMA certainly knows his job.
It's the charge in there with the smoke, he's leading it.
Ziya's...
...a falter with that goth to pass back on the mountain.
Jump in the middle of his, the outdisk.
Sparing Ziya's a little bit, but the sneakle is gonna be in some trouble.
You're gonna have to slide a fist, those pants jump back to you!
We're gonna have to just a sliver of HP, watch and no!
He's dicing up the supports now in turns and tension over to PMA, PMA,
being caught, he blocked out by Charge Jr on top of his Scotty.
He will not be able to finish off Charge Jr now for the Templar Assassin.
Can they deal with got the Jews, Watson? Sure, certainly show it!
Are you shredding the avenge here with his favorite blades,
shreds through the first light?
What is Linda's life with the refraction?
Nico's hopping all around, insulin, and tons of you got to go to the JCPKVTP.
I think he's supposed to die there, anyway, like this TV damage is insane going into when there's no refraction. Yeah, man, one of fight from the index.
They had double buy though. That is worth communicating with like that's a fight on their ward on their outpost with double buyback, which ultimately turns out
Lots of he gets a stand-tall in the middle of that the initial jump on the chin
It kind of seems great deer because you're gonna take all these orders out. They accept he doesn't die
Like he just walks it off get some the arena the TA can't hit him
The TA did almost nothing in the first half of the flight couldn't be after these arenas didn't want to go into them
And then he's hitting now at the whole time
gets yours there now. He's trying to win the Watson doesn't him and now he's getting now it but he's a bars. He is bored
Then he gets dead shot there. He's sick dead shot from socks off
Then you have to like penta Brendan play. What is this dude?
That is so disgusting
If all the chanda right there on will I'll just I had pans off people were like okay, bro. You got me, you know whatever
You want to spend five remnants on my ass. You can have it
Did he kick it?
Oh , Niko had to use all those remnants
because he almost didn't get the chance
to use any remnants at all,
off of them jumping in and him getting coil.
Yupam BKB and he's like,
oh, I'm still stuck.
It's also worth actually,
Nihuner, he has any had all those
with refreshor shard, off of the Ruisher.
Right.
He doesn't have his own refreshor.
So he will not have that now.
He'll buy an A on just to try and survive.
But that fight was, that was a fair eandx favor fight, and just scary for Navi in terms
of how easily Watson just stood in the middle of all women.
And he's just kind of chillin' like he's just slicing up everybody, no one's, wants to
focus in, no one's dealing big damage in him.
You're gonna have to really take advantage of these tall spacts, and I don't think you can
just jump in off the hex anymore.
There's too much survivability in this eandx line.
the change is giving these heroes too much HP.
I think it's also like it's fundamentally unfair.
We do have ranged hard carry versus ranged hard carry and one side as Mars.
It's just like the arena.
Oh yeah, pretty too good.
It almost means that Navi have to get the initiation.
Just to make sure the arena's aren't too good.
Yeah, the rooting is also juicy.
He needs us to not give you the jump there.
They're gonna be on this.
breaks the coil and almost still gets caught here.
How do you speed to if you got that type of ice on the fuck here?
And he fall up, they got the chains on him as well,
going get strong, that's going to be phase shift on,
the M.A has to start back to the way from Watson here.
It's a little scary.
They do at least get anality on their way back out.
Watson, he still kind of needs a subter target.
They can't feel too good about this.
Ooh, the cyblades got to be careful with that nice dead shot
for some back science.
Looking for the jump, doesn't that blink dagger though?
very sick moves from Nico together pops coil with the A on and then dodges the second coil
now I can look at now like he wants it he wants it he faces 40 dozen get it immediately
gonna be sight the vice and he's gonna be tossed back with the static link on him as well
Zion's man's just traded in his life for tomorrow he's just trying to get out with the
four staff will mile and go for what he can poppy kv arena but does die pull working the wrong way
They watch it.
This is under the KD, and he's a thunder data!
Oh, not going to get it!
God, they're going to be to be.
It takes him out before the thunder can go off.
And now, no buyback on the Mars, and maybe forced into a buyback on the Terror Blade.
There's still this Tier 2 on the top lane.
The top lane is heavily pushed in for Yandex's favorite, but not he might just go straight
into Tier 4.
Yeah, they want to fight.
They want this to be, they know he has it.
a lot to be used. Got to choose hoping to get that entire time for that's
a minute he can manage against the TV for event that's under there's the
virus to put it up not off of an initiation. Navi I think this is a
clean get away. Yeah, hell they're out. I grow spawning in 10 seconds. This
is the window not be needed. They got big buys, they've been finding toss
packs on the chin, they've been beautiful from science. There's a refresher
for Wattson so he uses all that 11,000 gold.
This should be Roach going into Nauti's answers
an amp the image that just spawn in the river as well.
That's disgusting.
Another refresher shard for the ember also super value here.
Can we see one ages?
I want some.
the
are a consumed moonshirt damage
ages with an mkb sit in the back back
Navi seemingly have every little bit
that they need to take a five on five
into the index is high ground
nearly nullified there goes that
this away.
Tier 4 is already going to be falling pretty fast here, 10 more seconds till the Mars is back up.
That you're not going to worry.
It should be off to defend the ancient, so it's not like non-veganers to all in, especially
against the arena.
It's so good at protecting that brown.
Now, you're going to have to fight for the W.
Here.
Here, Junior.
Pacing after him, they'll admire on science, not able to get the four staff away as easily.
And this nice spear.
From a distance arena catching ready drops to go on them, but most words are still going to be caught here, and a coil snap on KMA PMA and Vintrole
Got up the cheese, fields up, sight to fly, sending kills to the puck as a result
He's not about to go down here, Watson, now he's going to be sight to fly stuff
He has a refresher, he has another DKB off of that refresher, just going to use the hurricane pipe to get up to the hyper-ass to VKB defensively near Mount, putting back these heroes
We're fresher, Naderina, with the coil on top of that,
Watson comes back in, but he's not really sure
can I hit these heroes or not?
He's a Sunder, and he's not getting one.
Nope.
Had to refresh just to get out of there.
Now he's your puck by back as well.
That's why cheer Jr's going in so aggressively.
But what did you get out of that?
You got another time you buy?
That's it.
I mean, all the refreshers,
we got the refresher out of the ember.
Some of the old movies that they did because I was not saying PMA full deal. The Andy is one of them
I just had so many items off these roshons tough to get through here
Very awkward place for the index to fight in a sense of the terror it has to go up that hill
Okay
Divine okay, yeah, this is uh, I'm gonna end the game right here right now
Well, I have the security of this A just to pack me up.
No buybacks.
Or the index. They'll have one in 30 seconds. That'll be soxas.
And then they need some gold for Malax.
They're kind of left in this last life. They got the spear back onto the temple or assassin with that to fight right here.
Can they take him down easily to the ones? Okay? Easy.
What about the second time bill?
Yes, don't be kidding me. It's on cooldown. They're gonna be on the ground.
the ground.
You got him off the dead shot.
Listen now.
The MPKP goes out now before the spear, but he's going to die.
The light right here on the ground.
Now let's pick it up.
And they're winning this fight, though.
You may try to go into watching.
No chance at winning that, and all of a sudden, Yandex have just been gifted a divine
rapier.
These tower seasons man, like they're just... they're not ready for Yandex to take these
fights.
Third one this game where they have been massively punished on a spear back.
There's no bailout for the hero yet BKB in the backpack, which means what he dies with
that A just he subsided and it's still poor second cooldown he gets deadshot.
I mean Malik has salvaged this game so many times I've lost count.
It's just absurd how much value he has gotten out of the spear back, setting these fights up.
I mean we see the two other courts where they'll be trying to make something happen here.
going to hex on the terribly but there's no refraction that comes up it's not enough
to build this T8 out. That divine review are in backfires horribly. This bar is now
it's considerably hard. Oh yeah you got to watch out for that god's review and they're
going to go right to the tier 4 so they're going to force you. Oh my god. They're not a novice.
There's there's no cliff for a novice. Pass back onto the pot. Good catch if they can get it.
The site of the place does not go off, okay, it goes on now, they keep this year here, but go and get the truck on it, try to commit faces goes out
He's gonna reset a little bit and he could have won, go away, he cannot and orbit this up in a second other faces
He'll stuff in the air, avalanche, covering any sauce up in
He won't let's go to another face shift, blanks going, one second nod to much A we damage, they get the puck and they didn't have to use the pieback of a simpler assassin
and
lots of just made the call he said I don't have
better I don't have a refresher I need to get the hell out of here they abandoned the
puck who did not get the memo got tossed in there was no cliff there
but no meta no confidence to man up for that play now you're missing a puck for
a hundred seconds here that is a massive opening for Nabi if they want to try and all
in. Now once and he does have the meta back up but he also has an
an accident that he's going to consume here. He also has the terror wave.
Can you do without coils? The coils have been so important. Right. Yeah, if you get another spearback.
The way you just give, I know they're crazy. Spear back to my recovery.
That's not trying to push back these heroes. There is a cliff for the radiant side here.
Trying to stall this out, but it's going to be a four versus five.
Templar assassin and Razer full-pitting it and the ancients already had half HP.
They got to start doing something here if you're on the side.
They're going to go to the terror wave pushing back somebody's heroes.
Throwing out some shots, slowing down PMA, PMA take a lot of damage and see bags out.
Emerson looks like I don't have to consume that cheese.
Meanwhile, left-hand side, Miku, BKV, TP out, B is good there.
They did not glyph, that's super important here.
Prenavix, just use the Crimson.
But they did use Teraway at these demons,
he doesn't have to meddle back up,
nor refresher, but meddle available for once.
Another Crimson up in 4 seconds under any more.
You're an ally, got the initiation of the team!
Oh, my god, my wanker safe!
It might just be a down-copy-shoes,
some more rena's covering things up,
the ancient's and some-
Just got the choose, got the choose,
the ancient's and I know.
Now, I could be able to finish with the ancient,
or it has to buy back a place for the 20 ancient's,
almost dead, but they're pushing back to use a hero.
Blue is left!
Can the tempo are a sazenkin here, but they're traveling!
He's about to go for a good strike!
Here's the good!
Oh boy!
Second!
What?
Five HP is all that's needed!
He just needs two shots!
A dead shot hits him, got the juice, needs some control!
Why go finish it off on the emperors' spirit, they get it in the end!
Navi!
Seconds away from losing the fight, seconds away from losing the game, losing the series!
But they lock in, they close it out, game four, and we're going to game five!
What the fuck is that doing that is literally one hit I think he is dead there
There's like door chance the Gluc was on a 50 HP throne
They saved it that entire time
They absolutely were wiping them. The deck is over for not even they do not kill throw there and somehow
They eat it out with the last damage from this temple our assassin that is that is definitely not the way
not be one of the witch that came but they will absolutely take that way. They look stressed as hell.
Those games are incredibly intense. It will go to a game five here. That was
Mega hike. God damn. I mean this series has gone every witch direction right. There's been
stops both ways. There's been clutch wins both ways. So many clutch plays and it'll all come
down to one more game. An hour long game for, but now he get it just barely over the line.
We're going to go to a game five.
Twice, now this has happened today in Best of Fives, where it feels like maybe
it wasn't mega crews, but it had that sort of tension, and it's all down to
slipping at the right moment, people spying back all ining on hitting the
the ancient there and for the Navi, it was just enough to be able to push this
to a game number five.
Holy crap, that was nuts.
beautiful light goodness. We were actually screaming the crowd was going berserk. Yeah, it was like I don't know
It's like 25 people because it's super late at night, and they're freaking out the crowd is they are
Amped for this. It's like the energy in the room is actually sick and I was crazy
I mean because it means so much for not being right again, of course you can talk about what the
Organization has lacked to do over the last 10 years of Dota what this team potentially could do for them
But yeah in the way which they would it as well is like the back of the floor for me just seeing a tear blade in a best of five
If it was like it's just a hair that makes the best of life even better, right?
Because it's so hard for, now we have to do so many things right to try and beat the
Watson Terrible, playing for the Rochan's, making these moves surely and
fumble multiple times, but again, that's just the beauty of Dota's.
Keep your head up, keep going.
It's clear why I think it's raising my heart three by like that.
It's for.
And it's like the world is well with all this fuck God.
Duranix choked this fight really hard, like they just sit there and let them hit the
throne for like five seconds they draw.
And then Jan or Jan is able to actually commit on it and take it after we're sorry, no, but yes, sorry, gracious
Like I think if they just fight them at the front of the base
That's the general principle of it is based defense is you fight them as they walk up your doors because if you let them get it thrown
They get the tip it too much and you wait and you get baited into not jumping of soon enough
And then their front skits all that also the last arena it didn't cover the full throne
So even though got to juice was in the arena
He could still hit the throne because the barrier didn't actually protect it. Yeah, like there were so many small things and mr
got this like by backing that you know if your play fails like the game is cooked
it's like your cooked straight up I mean we also have to talk about the
slight choke right before this game like ended because CJ did a play
it did last time I was like I was like a 50-50 right after coming up
will they succeed and do it properly or double spear back?
But you know, put those things aside,
Yannick's kind of have to game,
and then they're like, over cooking someone
gets impatient, I mean, mainly CJ
because that's like, you can't really let that happen.
So I do hope you know that I can help each other,
go into game five cleanly because those plays,
we can't have them anymore.
Yeah, you definitely caught it.
There is these clutch moments that are gonna have to happen
when it feels like you're running at a time
when it feels like the fights are just so even.
But what exactly to brought us to this point
having such a close even back and forth game for.
It was story about what I was shouting and Navi understood this I'm very clearly.
They had to get the ages every single time and that's exactly what Navi did because of course
we're going to show you one clip in which Navi they get a more difficult than they fall back
they take the Rochan and terribly the hero we don't see to often you kind of want to
get an ages for a mental objective take the building yourself but Navi with their TA was
their ability to go Rochan they were consistently creating this problem for Jan next.
The Andes could win the team fight, but they couldn't win into an age of timing.
So every time Navi got an age, then in Mook down the lane, you take a mid-racks, then
you reset, then you take Bot Racks, and you see the couple of Russians there, it's like
at any point the Andes took a rush on themselves, maybe this game is very different, because
they're Navi in the team fights, they were struggling, the objective siege, they were struggling.
I think it was the cushioning, the time that the ages bought allowed them to get to this
kind of late game, physician.
I thought it is the benefit of having your team and your roster is knowing when exactly
you can kind of pick your Fides try and look for a pick-off that's going to lead straight
into a roach for yourself. And if you're always bringing the numbers, you're going to have
that advantage. That too, Clint. Yeah, it's honestly ridiculous. And I can't believe it's
still in the game. It's obviously super bizarre and changes the game in a very, very strange way.
Not a huge fan, but I mean, I was also really impressed by an eco-indiscale. I think compared
the last game. And I think also, I've sort of come to just accept that this guy is just hit or
and that's how it is.
He's not consistent yet and you have to just
understand that.
That's a lot of it.
Yeah, that's just life and I think this game
he was inconsistent in the good sense
that he was playing, he was going ham
and he was creating a lot of space.
He was making a lot of plays.
They played around and bit.
You see here that make a nice move
a whole bunch of heroes.
And he's just kind of being a crazy man.
He's totally aligned really closely.
He goes back under the towel right after he heals up.
He's zoning people being annoying
and they take me tower super early in this game.
He solo killed Puck earlier in the lane.
I think Nuku is just,
He's feasts their firemen and I'm very curious to see his next game.
If he's wolfing down an entire turkey or a restaurant in boneless.
He's gonna be chomping, I think next game.
Put him on the hair like an Indian do that though.
I want him to be going crazy running through the map doing these things.
I don't put a slow clunky hair like combat make these moves.
I want him to eat good.
Amen.
Amen to that brother.
I mean, a very set it in the cast.
I think also this series is about the comfort heroes.
Like Niku police, let this man play.
heroes that he is going on though for something weird but got the juice on his TA right and
just the game is going to be a mess it is it's just going to be a mess it's late tonight
now either these one of these teams is playing ulcer clean apart from the two games that were
stomped together to get there they're messy I think you have to embrace the mess and let the
comfort and let that muscle memory from thousands of games you play through the talking I want to
give a special shout out to my boy PMA this raise up performance was really damn close I'm not
gonna lie I think it's itemization as well playing into T.B. isn't that easy on this hero you get
it's really crazy and he had very nice movement around the Fisever than he went BKB, he went
YaSh, he got the hex slater to deal with the puck as well because I do think you need to also remember
like when games are disclosed it obviously and very often comes on to very like small things
especially like individual stuff as well so I think for them it's just good that they can
rely on each other, you know it doesn't have to be got to do so on V9 so it doesn't have to be
Nico you can rely on everyone even the supports isn't that right? 100% unlike your hatred
for them in the last panel you know really switch up the script but we don't like
And what you really hated were mid players unjustly, by the way.
What is wrong with you?
Whoa, that's all right.
I'm going to get you a draft.
Whoo!
Again, to remind you guys, we have like two sides to the arena.
But definitely an all-recycling event.
The domicile is very passionate for the success of Navi.
And by the way, everyone's just very passionate about this fact that we get to see game five.
Because they mentioned a number of times here.
This series is just ever evolving.
I don't be ch-way.
Now, Yandex went a very close game,
not be able to close out a very close game as well,
one that they were leading in.
They were a lot of these misplays that we do have to address
where they're just overstepping a little bit too much,
because we could've seen them and closed this one out a lot quicker.
Like, there is just no beating around that bush.
Yeah, it was a mess.
Like, they were, I think the tower specifically,
that's the kind of thing I think that you actually can fix
in between games, where you're just like,
yo, there was this trend in this game.
We kept running into towers and hitting them in a very silly way and dying next game before you hit the tower think and I think that's
See that you can find people's brain, but you'll actually remember it if see why goes in there and he's like
You're before you hit the tower please just for one second think should I hit this and then suddenly prom fixed
I mean, it's also like with the hitting a tier two and then more looks dead and then the respawning
They have outpost from trust like they didn't have gone on off as well
Said you need to hit this tower when you can wait 10 seconds wallock TPs in wait
potentially another, I don't know how long the cooldown was,
let's assume it's like 30, then you make the move.
The fact that they're forcing it is like they're just excited.
Oh my god guys, we're doing it.
We're in a winning position.
We got two racks, I felt like excitement
knowing that they are potentially going to win this game,
be one game away from a grand finals.
Like it can get to you.
You can feel like you just go, go, go, go.
So yeah, just throw it down, ever so slightly.
I think there's even more when it comes to that force,
such a young roster like Navi, formerly Navi Junior,
We've seen them in Chengdu when we had our lost land.
They were in front of a crowd there, but they had a really rough series for themselves.
So now you get to be on land again in front of another crowd.
You're actually winning these games.
You stomp in one of them.
You win it in a mega clutch road.
I really think the fire is under them.
I actually think for this one, obviously, to see the draw play out.
But when it comes to energy, I think it really heavily favoring Navi.
No, I think it does for sure, especially because I agree with Quinn, like in between this game.
sure it's not just don't hit this tower but more like who's actually the one that will stop us.
So I think if you can think about it how Yandex play, I will say generally like socks or a mallik
who are like are they showing on the map? Are they not showing on the map? Can they be smoked?
Can they not be smoked? Because for Navi, like winning this clutch game where people actually play well
and you pull like plays out of your hat to actually make it happen.
Obviously this feels amazing. You know in the fifth game, you have a slight edge and now you just need to
pull another draft out that you're comfortable playing with and then you've got to do the game play.
I mean, I just like the fact that you know, they're banning a sniper to care of like they're making sure that their draft is built on a foundation of in the future
They're all gonna be problems for okay, we are gonna lose this name because if it's free here, right?
It is just strong draft in this game and you have to remember like why you're getting this position when you go to a game five
You can't then just be like, okay, we're gonna do it now like you have to look in like why did we win the game to be won?
Why do we lose the game to be lost and make sure that you get takeaways from each draft?
But you have to delete all four drafts now into one to ensure you have the best possible draft going into the game play
And I want to talk about some takeaways for Yandex as well because yeah, they didn't win that game
But they made it extremely close and having stand in in their off-lanet with Malik
He really has shown up in a lot of these games
We didn't know how easily he would slot in for Yandex yesterday
It took a little bit they were able to get the three games in a row for themselves and socks
I talked about it. They only had a couple of games before coming to Blast because it was so lost minute
But now we're seeing him be the play that has stepped up in so many positions throughout
again.
Yeah, I mean, I think it's weird to take away is for Yann next after that game because
you hide it very much at different points and you kind of just messed up.
And so I think a lot of it is just don't overthink.
And I think your drafts have generally been pretty good.
Your play has generally been pretty good.
They've been some whip season, some mess ups, but that's bound to happen.
And I think the really the way they can screw themselves if they focus too much on these
with the problems, with those with the problems, we need to fix everything.
When we released a glitch, just you just take a chill pill.
Let's play the game and go to the player best.
And the chips will fall with a game five
is kind of messy and crazy.
And I think you just walk in and take a chill pill.
It's okay.
We had a little time to breathe and play your daughter.
I think now it looks very, very chill.
And then vibe in there.
I mean, he knows he was kind of earning him.
I mean, this is just a, I'm sorry, but I also like how they played.
They made the game a lot on Yamax.
I think it's how they also kind of brought the game back.
You know, like, splitting the lanes,
but I want to highlight something a little different.
You know, not just the gameplay.
Look at the timer of the game.
It's 43 minutes in the game.
My boy, Matty, he's picking up a enchanted cobbled cup.
This is a tier one item.
When he is still holding at the 43 minute mark,
why is that, Kenzie?
Because it's an incredible new trodden
that you have made.
Out of the best.
That you don't just need to take at tier one.
You can have it at tier two at tier three.
And even at tier four, this man, he carries the sack
of potatoes.
He knows that the cobbled cup is the real item of the tournament.
So when you play supporting your pubs,
If you say out there, you want them a more, you want to be good.
You want to move fast.
You get the cup 10% new speed.
Does the matter what in Xiaomi you take with it?
But what's the word?
What would be the broken in-champments
on each level with it?
Well, here one, you get moving speed.
So get the quick and cup.
And then later, you get whatever you need.
You need magic resistance.
You get magic resistance.
Oh, okay.
You need armor.
You get armor.
Nice to have.
All right.
Go get three.
You need the end champion.
Not one.
I'll get into that at another stage.
Or today, co-bolts up bonus of a more bonus of a more bonus of a great.
And if he does that, it's actually the key takeaway.
Everyone needs to have a problem at this game at number four,
because we need to go to a break, we come back, it will be the fifth
and final match of a best of five on the path to a grand final slot.
We're going to play game from Posterworld,
or we can give in one word.
We're going to say one word at each and at the end of that,
we're going to have to try and figure out who exactly
go given a different word than the rest of the three of us.
Cherries.
This is...
Burd Hates.
Rattage.
Hologize.
High Grounds.
That's how I create new lives for that, alright?
Umm... defense.
MVP's.
Woods.
Tell me, towards...
Wins?
Can I still do this?
No.
She's, I don't know, uh...
BKB's, the, uh, stacks.
And now it's time for us to vote.
Three, two, one.
Oh, it was actually wasn't a hit here again.
I don't know.
I won't know.
No, it was.
Yeah, it was.
Uh, you were different from me.
Mine was things that support we never did.
Oh, yeah, I knew it, I knew it.
My husband and a T, or T had a T.
He was like, oh, my husband for me,
the rabbit had just figured it was.
So these two, these two, these seven,
the rabbit had just had.
Was it me? Was it me? Was it me?
It was me. I don't believe it.
No, you're on?
You won? No, you didn't.
Yeah, you did.
But then you fooled me, because when you said
they didn't get in, so it was the MVP.
That's ridiculous.
Actually, they gave you all.
So pretty.
Yeah, I said it up here.
It was, I knew it was me.
Sorry.
Good job with getting the wife like this.
It's my mom.
I don't know what my mom is doing.
Novy and Jan Dex that looked in at a game number five that is going to get them into
the grand finals against Liquid and we've had Stomps go both ways.
I've had close games, go both ways, and now we have to wonder what exactly is the left
and the tank for both of these teams in that end of fifth game.
And Navi, back with the first pick for themselves, so it worked out for them in game four,
does that trend continue here?
I just loved the bands from Navi once again.
The only thing that Yannets could do is don't band the shutter-fiend or for up the third
it raised it then you get shot of him for yourself but in regards to trying to create a
novice themed lineup that isn't hit by some niche counters then I think these three
bands kind of hit the nail on the head for that.
Yeah it's uh it's very good it's finally this underworld event which getting forced out.
They can take the razor again if they wanted they can repeat the trade it was a close
game I don't know if the draft was necessarily favorable for them but if they if they
liked it if they felt confident in it it seems like they do.
I don't think there was any issues with fifth.
I feel like maybe even Yandex don't feel like there was the biggest issue for them either
because the game was so then closed but I also wouldn't be surprised if Yandex was small,
swap up like two the Razer, like maybe they want to value the more fling that Quinn also
mentioned in Alaska, like a little higher, maybe you're looking at other heroes like weaver a
little bit earlier on because while T.P. has an incredibly good matchup against Razer
like later, you could definitely tell that PMA on the Razer had like a very free like
first 20 minutes off the game.
Yeah, I mean, they even won the win pretty hard.
They kill TB at least once, maybe twice.
Yeah.
He also buys the Crimson Guard very naturally.
So TB's impact for a large part of the game is pretty new until you get to more items
to Scotty and then eventually the tail is you need that one big damage items you can actually
cut through the Crimson, otherwise they can cut during it and then you set out there.
It promotes the loss in priority.
Of course, in the lost roster took the challenge in this position picking boss out of phase
next, but maybe Yandet's thing is to be a found out in, you know, not like he had a pretty
good game, right?
The spear back to kind of the main reason why they're able to punish Navee, so I don't mind
this promotion and maybe it's Yandet's just losing a little bit of faith in the Chen.
It's possible.
They did, they did lose the safe lane last game, right?
And I think it's not something that's happened for Yandet's very much this series, and
the most part they've been doing quite well there, so I think it makes some sense, like
let's go back to maybe some more spell casting aggressive heroes, you take it to Navi
a little bit in that early game punished, they're all flansman, a little bit weaker.
Does that still have to mount up the houseguard in this position?
Now if you're having the final picking this phase, knowing that you kind of want to pick CJ's
hero, like the puck, the embossed of whatever here, they don't really utilize an auspix
for him.
So, it's definitely a threat for sure.
I don't think CJ is the type of player who wants to play these aren't as things like that,
but it can sort of survive against Huskahar Niko, is also a very, very competent houseguard
player.
It's not quite like the Maureen tier, he'd buy some weird items,
so this is hard build that I think is a bit cap,
but he is definitely like above average on the outside.
I mean, if they're looking at Pock, I would definitely say you should
ban that.
And I don't think there was anything wrong with it.
He's had a very good track record with this hero in this tournament.
And yeah, I'm not surprised that they did promote the Malik Mars.
He played incredibly well in the last game.
To me, it's a bit more about the other heroes.
Maybe the gen is like the, I guess, demoting it in a way could be true,
But maybe it has more to do with the combo day end up with maybe they want mad at you
like a melee guy, where it's then, you know, if you see the Razor, I think range carries
out traditionally better.
So perhaps that's like one of the pairing surf thinking about.
I can see them want to steal the TA, chant TA's, kind of crap together, they don't like
if you don't do anything with the armor.
So maybe they want, yeah, something to enable TA.
TA's, you know, while the lane can be a little dicey, in the game it's very good and I think
stealing it away could be a good option.
It's very, very comfort for what's we talked about that.
before the draft started.
I do think that, um,
now I'll be my agree with you guys in terms of Yandex, not favoring.
The Chen, right now, they might pick it up here,
but the reason I said it is because they banned the wallups instead,
they're like, there is a chance Yandex will open this second phase
with the wallup as the support instead of Chen,
if it's still in the pool, almost forcing them to look towards it.
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of a big deal that they don't get it themselves.
I think Wallach was a really big part of that, you know, after Navi,
They banne themselves, almost out of fear that Yannax will steal it with, I think, is like,
it's the right place sometimes, but it also feels bad.
So I think it's one of those decisions that you can always judge, but you're never really
sure if it was the right caller.
Like, was Yannax actually going to pick it?
You don't know.
Maybe Yannax was going to ban it, and you just saved them a ban, like there's all
these questions.
And, yeah, I know, so, to Yannax, because they think Mars will get banned, it's like,
you picked that.
You, in the back of your mind, it's okay.
We still want Mars, Trembler, to do it in a different order, but again, there's all the
It's the latest to it, but at the end of the day, the same drop is occurring and we'll go up to the picks.
Of course, Navi.
They've worn it down to themselves, the tiny band by Yandex, so we are going to see two new heroes for Navi.
They'll save them now.
Oh no.
Okay.
Before we get to that point, I just want to jump on the fact that I have seen Navi in multiple qualifiers that I have cast.
Lose of death on any foreign moments.
Back to you, Quinn.
That's like it.
I think that's the giant of the screen where it's going to stay.
I think the words are out loud.
Nothing to add to you back to you guys.
I mean, I was thinking that they were looking for a teamfight replacement in a way.
I definitely don't think that that's the same teamfight impact as Warlock does.
I mean, both heroes function quite differently.
That's what gives you a bit more aggressiveness early on.
And I think the grave and overall like heal and like buffing up armor can be quite good.
But so if I need to see how it pairs up with the rest,
Right now I see a lot of volatility between these three like range guys.
When we say it guys,
now I'll be picked a dazzle that basically sends the Yandex.
We're gonna pick Oscar on 18.
We're gonna close the phases of a Oscar.
Ah, okay.
Start picking some anti-Haskar heroes now.
They picked two anti-Haskar heroes and then they go,
SIN!
It's just a dazzle and then they don't pick Oscar.
But that's at least one way to make the hero feel good,
but then they're dropping the fucking weird, right?
All about the laser and the snowball.
Wine cares, interesting.
Oscar is like fine against cast. I think it's like somewhat of a nothing burger.
Hmm, I don't think cast is like super good against Oscar. Like it's not gonna do
sir or terrible a tier. But as much as we do kind of dislike dazzling the game
if we just talk about the job and ignore the game play then I do feel like the
dazzle pickers forced a character be revealed that they don't want to show them mid lane
they don't want to enable Niku. So in that regard they're not gonna be
they found that little win but now they have to fix the dazzle problem in
One thing I've seen Navi do before is that Nico plays dazzle mid and that's the one thing I don't want
Please no, oh my god, this guy sometimes has some psycho ideas that he then looks like into the midway
And that's what I don't want to see
Can they take a win range of so they can take the kill shot fast it whatever it's called to then
So I guess I think yeah, and it's our respecting what Navi can do
I think they've adjusted accordingly in anticipation of that potential pick that we have mentioned for Niku
I'm not sure if you can play offline Razor this game, like it's finding it's
the annexes heroes, but not the desperately needs like a beefy-boy fight starter. I
think in a game you need some ease of execution. You can't play this five range
heroes type deal. First of all, this is not good, but especially in a clutch.
Okay, you called it, but I'm really happy about it by the way, but I have
quoted correct? I mean, I think it's a fine housecar game. Like it's good with
It's not bad against the heroes, it's not like the best horse car game ever, but it's fine.
How scared is it powerful here?
I think Oscar is good against CJ.
Because I think his hero pole is generally pretty bad against Oscar.
You're putting him out of his comfort zone.
I think there's value there for sure.
All the spirits, quap, all the stuff it's all bad now.
I'm looking at his hero pole and there's not a single one where I'm like,
OK, that's your kind of get out of Oscar, you know, you can dodge it.
He is kind of victim to a horse car and his entire pole.
So for that, it is going to be good, annoying the mid lane.
in the mid lane, I think the fixed Navi though is going to be PMA.
He has to find the right hero for himself.
I don't think the orfane raises the correct solution.
I feel like you do need to have just someone to sit around like when he's mentioned.
Of course, the tight hunter and any of the blobs kind of help with that.
It's just so annoying to pick a lot of off-laners into cares.
I mean luckily for you, his five is Chen,
so it's not like the most oppressive lane when he comes to like their aggression.
But it's still like a lot of the melee guys do not enjoy leaning into care.
How's the watermelon? It's okay. It's fine. I think it's especially because the Shen is the five I think it works
Yeah, I'm actually tired like the the go to option. I mean, I feel like it will get down again
I feel like Yannux will realize this they've been to the last game
It is a classic response to Shen also guard those of the carry they've been the leaner
I'm actually curious if Yannux puts the winner in your mid. I think it's a massive bait
I think winner in your mid sucks. Yep, and I think cost-guard slaps winner in your mid lane
I'm trying to think, I mean, obviously we can keep debating the Navi pick a little bit first,
as they are the ones that pick out a phase, but it's already not that easy to think about
the end-exes last pick into the husk.
That can answer it if you talk to it.
But there's a lot of them on that.
Say it anyway.
Now the lane's too bad.
I was like, brood, because then you're really good for just like, you drag the mask to
defend your tower.
But I feel like Chen has probably just eats the brutal life so it doesn't really happen.
I'll just try to trip around and know how to go for like your three in the morning
pub draft. I think the all in is too risky. I think that's enough. You have to balance it out.
Like the water mones band, that was very good. Centaur, I think is generally considered pretty bad against
Kez. But you need some fat guy number four. And you feel that that's just not really possible coming from the
carry. It's so much easier in offense. It's like, it's exactly what it fits.
You buy one cheap item and you'll whip your team and when you have a host go you won't cheap items
Some people to go crazy
Okay, yeah, I mean I need a hero like this. I mean I'd be the best answer game
But I think it's important that they pick it like if they try to counter pick Yennex's heroes too much with this pick
I think they can sabotage the game because you need you can't be too hard to execute
It's game five you need a little bit of simplicity. I do think these are comfort heroes and so that part of it
I like I hate dazzle and
But it's comfort for them.
It is comfort for them and so I think it could be worse.
Like I don't, I don't look at this draft
and look at having no chance.
I think it absolutely have chances.
And I think the pressure is on CG right here
because he's playing a tough score
and his heroes suck against a tough score.
He has to find a hero that he's just not too comfortable
and going back to the hatred for the fadaza
at least he has to be here
of that go in for him.
Right?
Your formation in the fight should be
cause go to front line, he plays in the tree line,
utilize him maybe the blink dagger
and then you're playing on your no full projection.
I just shouldn't be a game where
I was getting found first because for Yandex it's I have a kid finding the back friend or
more jumping in oh they go she didn't ban a a oh that's not good that's a wind
mid a what I mean it's for a a a a a a a a a for or what oh sorry a what
my brother you wait you while let's take a chill okay that's that's a big
wolfie from now you gotta remember to ban this cowboy again silver leggings
that's if you do miss a nice boss go crazy yeah I mean
That's the problem is that you have to miss it.
Husker has to play on the other problems.
There's more.
It's like, you can just play a four staff.
That's one thing.
But you can be and like four staff and Pike,
it's going to be a very strange, specific item build on
Husker.
I guess the one like lifeline for Navi,
it's Husker players are looking at Blinktack earlier.
So if you do get to threaten in the lane,
it's fake matchup that you mentioned at the win range.
You get the Blinktacker.
You keep moving forward, finding and hunting.
Like maybe you build up a big enough gold lead
that you're allowed to have the one ice blast at.
If they play on the ages, it is the last game.
Who cares?
You get ice blast, you're going to respawn again, right?
So I think, grow shan again for Navi
is going to be just the big theme for them.
I mean, I'm just looking because AA is super good
against the Husk'ar.
But I think Navi has a very, very strong say thing as well.
It was like the, what it's razor, dazzle against a,
like, A is kind of a bot when it comes to the landing stage.
So while the AA is like, giga damn good against it,
I think that, you know, even though it's a spicy matchup,
I think Navi, my God, there's one.
I mean, there are chances.
I agree that there's absolutely chances.
Like normally, Avers, Huskahar is just like GG, you can't win.
But I don't think that's the case this game.
And I think I want to see it play out
and I think Nick has got a lock in.
I've got your Huskahar.
I just put this game to go more than an hour.
I thought I just had a game.
But if you walk back and forth,
you won't like the Huskah dying to the ice-fast
trying to go high ground.
Yeah, and it's plinging on.
And this game feels like it has all the makings of a game five.
I mean, it's just you need, you're going to need PMA
and Dr. Juice to get on this A.
Like AA is actually the most important hero of this game
because it changes the whole dynamic for your mid player.
So it's the mark, like who?
AA?
Well then you'd stamp he'd end with a smoke and you'd buy your own links.
There we go.
You've got a kill this guy.
The Husker needs to see the AA if he can't see him
and my boy Saksa gets too blast onto Nico.
Those fights are cooked.
Okay, a lot resting on the shoulders of an AA.
Maybe a ban that Navi overlooked in that last phase.
Maybe they are doing it for them because a lot also lies on the shoulders of a Husker in this game number five a slot in the grand finals
It was what awaits the winner. So let's see it play out
It all comes down to a game 5 between Navi and Yandex to determine who will be moving
on to the blast grand finals and who will be heading out.
the distance, third, fourth place.
Navi had thrown everything they have into this draft.
It's all in a husk-art.
They picked an early dance,
they picked up the husk-art.
Did they forget anything, Evry,
when drafting a husk-art?
No, nothing at all.
No, it's all smooth sailing here from Nick here, ice.
No, and no, we're not going to worry about
in terms of his healing mechanics this game.
I'll be all like, it's that meme about, you know,
like, I think I forgot about something.
Yeah, you know, if you forgot about it,
you're probably wasn't that important.
It's an apparition, last pick to counter the host guard.
No, there's got to be some downsides to this, right?
Yeah, you have to play a game.
That's it.
This hero is not the strongest hero, he's also in the four.
He's a lot worse as a four than a five.
This is my opinion.
Like you have two supports who offer no stuns, no catch,
no real job, no utility.
It's just or as from Shannon, this ice wash may.
That is no big liability. You have bars and winter injuries to set stuff up. So the draft will function
But it can make things really awkward when playing the map and I will say
A is a very volatile hero and one of the big reasons he is is because
He absolutely hard counter-certain heroes in the world like more fleeing alchemist
Husqar face is winter. It's just a hundred is zero and there's a lot of heroes that just hundreds is zero in back
that he does nothing against like we saw earlier today in that liquid game the zoo against him right
Heroes he does nothing to some of its heroes. He's pretty bad against mobility. He's very bad against
Type slash BTV in general
So it's not be can use some of those things against the a find in early on it. It'll be huge
I already started things off. I was good to say it feels like what you're talking about with the same shneprition that a lot of this line up
relies upon Malik having a good release, and I was going to say that, you know, maybe
Navi should put extra effort to make sure the Malik doesn't get, you know, a faster,
blink-dagger and such to set up ancient apparition, but then he and the extra gave the first
blood. They just stacked on Malik's lane, catch got the juice going through the gate,
after they secured Baldy run some the other side of the map. They put some good damage on
riddy. He's already a good start. Now, Malik is just going to come back for it.
Go after God to juice again. Just put some damage on him and ensure that no matter what happens,
this lane is going to be off to a good start. There's just forcing the trial lane.
Very awkward for Watson Top, but this will guarantee the lane for the bar's AA, which as you said,
is maybe the more important thing in this game and God to juice has nothing. He had his
career snipe genetic changes well with the tangos on it. So his razor got brutalized and then lost
the most is region. A very sad start for him. Very smart.
Way to set these lanes up. On the side of Yandex could decide a lot in this game. With the
start that Malax going to have and all the extra experience for socks of a huge deal here.
I do think Navi have some tools to deal with. EA picked Centaur. You can kind of find them on the
backline, you can go PKB 4-step link type items on
Huskahron trying to play around it, and you also have two, like power
through it mechanisms I want to say, like grave can
kind of act the threshold sometimes. And you have the
the cart from PMA later. That's true. So, as you can
have, thank you Steve. You're in, oh, the miss they're
a low ground miss for children, or he does not want to keep
committing is a very close back and forth between the two with the extra damage you get
off of that shackle shot.
Needless to actually have to be a little careful.
I know a lot of players would take the execution
versus the houseguard because it's also can be pretty nice, but I like the
trap better.
Make some a more stable core.
You deal a lot more physical, which is also nice to get the houseguard anyway.
And you know, gives you, I think more playability in scheme,
especially when you're up against cart and grave to invulnerability mechanisms.
I'm going to be annoying for that power shock going through anyway.
So let's say you hit the Huskarm with dice blasts and he's dice blasted for 12 seconds
at level 3.
You can get a talent.
That's another plus 4.
That's 16.
But let's say you double carton grave him.
That's 17, Austin.
That's just that, I mean.
Okay.
All right. I need a big that doesn't really work out because you can't chain it.
No, you can't. Right. If he's below the threshold like the shallig wave wears,
maybe you cart overlap all you shallig wave. Yeah, you cart then you graven and then you
cart of a get. That's the correct answer. He cart. It like he's gonna be out of the
cart for a second and under the threshold. Nico commits. Nico gets that kill.
Another mid lane one for Nico. It was a close call, but he got there.
that is, that's you, Trinobi, and that's gonna decide so much extra tempo and go into
this Huskah, or yes, the extra level now. He is supposed to win this lane, but when you
get those extra juicy kills, man, it feels good. Off to the races here. It's gonna be a
tough game for you, and yeah, they got to say 8-8, but I think the lanes are not gonna be that easy,
and I think their draft does lack some of that just casual playmaking, their mids gonna be
the game considerably still lots overconfident.
And it's certainly as dangerous giving the playmaking tempo to Navi.
Like if you can't make many moves and it means Navi is probably going to be the one setting the plate there.
No, that's not to say a trick talking about the temples like you can't.
This houseguard, right? You have Chen A.
So Niku knows this, Niku can play super oppressive in this mid lane solo, he can run around,
he didn't like going to enemy agents or really do whatever the hell he wants to escape,
because there is no kill for it on him, until ice blast is available.
So, he's gonna die, but Malink gets the deny on him, the downside of poison touch.
and
PMA messing with Maldi in the jungle but he's pretty independent now. If science wants to just go around mid and try and threaten this winner and sure.
the end of pushback on that winner on especially with the level six is here for the
Husgar so
Riddies and Zion's both closing in got him the pushback win run gonna be largely ruined here
to your junior
hundred percent dead and as he said no rotations really possible all they can do is
train with their sidelines here spear from Malik
was not going to finish the job on got to juice nor pinning him so he stays alive PMA
It does die on the other side though.
That's a big pickup top,
because you have to find some retribution on this map in the side lanes.
If you're a Yandex with how poorly this mid lane is going,
there's a catapult, a live mid,
double award committed from Navi on both sides of mid lane.
They are really putting the pressure on.
It's going to find a freebie in the river.
3D's all over the place.
Niku.
Got to be safe.
got to be so hastily fantastic and press this ace for I think you want some chase
on the win range or was I in sitting on the high ground tier at junior reads it when
runs out of there.
It's a countable so there's a dead tower here.
There's no way to kick these heroes out of the location as a level 5 win range or even
a lose another ward.
A cost car man you just get sucked into this mid-back human nothing good is going to happen
for you on this land if you are in this.
This is not his lane through and through.
He's fat, he's real fat, level seven and a half, it's 630 almost 2,000 network advantage
over the enemy mid, I mean that is the Husker factor right there.
I'm think about the these other matchups at the Huskers facing into obviously the
same separation is a problem.
How old do you think Kent matches up into the Husker?
The feel like with this quick killing now let's meet him getting farther and farther ahead.
He is going to be super far ahead and while I think he has probably okay, that silence
has got to be a problem for him.
We can see that silence is annoying.
I can see like the axe, taunt plus silence being annoying for him.
But the cut has to just dice this here all.
He's a physical burst.
I'll be there'll be something to carry for Watson in this game, for sure.
I'll be off to their fast-paced lane domination.
It's some cheese on top.
It's starting to taste in tier 1s.
They're like every game now being has gotten to take early tier 1s.
They just run away with it.
Yep.
Yep.
This is looking very similar.
and
it's going to be a long time until Malik
and socks are going to be ready to deter this aggression from Navi.
They're just going to keep going at it.
Over and over and over again, Chirid Jr's going to be pulled in.
Underneath the tier two, look at Watson rotating over there.
What a trash punish, Niko for this.
Saying he's too far forward, they've got to put him down here.
What's up, Chirid?
Great, there goes the Stampede, Watson slow down.
This is a problem, Niko.
He's staying alive, Jared Jr. trying to focus him down, but the focus fire, he's
poking away out in the pushwack, reset, armless retoggle, turns around kills Jared Jr.
not what Yandex were hoping for.
The first big rotation to try and stop this husk-ar, but Navi are able to defend it
and deflect it effortlessly.
Perfect heals and great coming out from release.
And just guarantee these toggles, he's still a fairy fire.
That one even worse.
5 heroes mid for Yandex, they get nothing lose their mid, getting sucked into the Husqar
black hole right now.
Yandex can talk right about that, like he was just able to play the top lane entirely
solo.
While he had to do his pop stampede to help out his team a little bit, I just chill
up here. The end guard done. He's going to take this tower eventually just off of the return.
Since the doubts out of that A-pick, you sacrifice a lot of lane stability, you sacrifice a lot of
playmaking. This year will need level six, and even then are you giving up so much map control
while trying to get there that it will matter?
behind it. Malacant really commit. The rest of the team is not moving to help him out.
At all. Oh, he died to roach. A failed armoured toggle. He didn't. Oh, no.
Not like this. Like how he did. Everything he did didn't work, but somehow walking away.
Hey, hey, hey.
Miku gets caught.
Good shackle, PMA.
Who was totally free farming, and this was supposed to be the trade-off, is that they
were supposed to kill the Sintar while the roachon was dying, instead the roachon, doesn't
die, Niku dies, and now PMA joins them in the grave.
What's up, big deal?
So it was a scheme, not a lot.
Nice time for units to get levels under A.
Almost a little six now.
In fact, socks are going to have this, so now you can't just do that, Roachon's kind
more. Yeah. Did you get scanned and blasted or just dead? So it really changed all to the tip of here.
I don't know maybe it took his hands off the keyboard though like all chat now like you know like
ha ha nice arena then he got killed. I don't know mid-smiles. Here he says it's all at the top to be
dropped with the spyllies. Oh my god you're back over the pit and you can see what's in my eyes blasted.
I feel like socks and nose. Does he get the timing right?
I mean, did you have a century off style?
I actually can't see anyone.
There it is.
I fly.
It's out of the range.
Oh, they're caught right on the edge there.
Still though, he's going to find the high ground war and okay, yeah.
You saw it coming.
Good for you.
Got the juice.
Trying to catch up to the stage and afterwards, you got the pull back on the bushwack on a mallet.
Malik.
He's dead.
Look at off-steer arena, the holding these heroes.
No, I'll be and now look back to it. It's really good. It's his revenge of the tipping earlier
Well, he plays that well, and I look at the roger's here
No funny business
That's about to say it's not over till it's over you never know
I'm a
It's a pretty good one brother.
Honestly, I would be so bad if you'd be great me there.
I feel like broke.
You don't trust me or what, like I'm not that bad, you know.
You know, Rochon.
Rochon doesn't kill me good.
I don't know.
But you are supposed to carry him on that plate because there could be some ice blast, but
it's like, I'd be insulted as a houseguard player.
Living dog by the sword. That's how the cereal goes.
Like a spear in this case three man smoke up Niku ready Zayat
Pushen through mid and up to the top lane where PMA has been the
Attention of multiple Yandex ganks
And Bobby were hoping the Yandex would try again and catch them in the middle of the act not the case so far this three man smoke
Tailing, Malady, Malady, he'll be stopped because already gets out and he is actually gonna make a play here though the
Watchers in the way I never mind. Oh he's gonna buy past it with the Ravens fail.
They saw that though, all the things. He's been paying in this. I think he maybe was looking at the watcher.
He might have seen some of that animation or maybe they just know that Watson's gonna be playing up here.
Yeah, I think they know he's probably up here somewhere.
more.
I just see how it's in.
Watson, big trouble here.
They hold onto the bushwack, and that's all it takes.
If Watson isn't allowed to teep the away, he's done for.
This game is rough for you, and it's right now.
Gotta start finding some, some Mars pickoffs.
They get one on Rudy's top, so it's something to start malach journey towards.
taking over this game as he almost didn't that game for a crazy strong
performance on the hero. And it's some space for the winner in German.
Drew drew his behind, but he does have levels.
So his game is not, it's not completely shot here. Like, it's never going to be
great landing in the host car, but as long as you could punch some levels, you can eventually
back. No ice a lot to worry about for 30 seconds since they catch the ancient
apparition. There is the blink dagger from Alecville.
Now kick things off, trying to help these supports get into the game.
All eyes on this Mars, and if I'm sucks, then I'm also just falling in because I'm not doing much in this game other than playing off of Malax.
Stun's, you have pretty or something else to go off of, so every time he wants to make a play you go with him and if he's just farming, then you get to go push some waves and probably die doing it.
This is your tag team.
Still two minutes on the ages though.
I've been all over time to try and go for this play unless you think you can just get a great 5v5 out of it.
Yeah, with the team nowhere really close by, I think it's looping around behind them. He's going to spot him here.
His danger of science, he's going to be just going to cut in all of that. He'll be the one ice watch to down.
So it saves Nico and his ages.
Good idea what the flank you don't want to let these heroes sit around the tower.
Unfortunately, the arena came out too fast and can't push back to a tree that doesn't exist.
It's a pack at loss. Hopefully that gets resolved quickly here.
Alright, big item timings are coming in soon. Wantsen is trying to complete his desolateer,
which obviously that physical damage really important to deal with the huskar, but also
to start getting those charges in. Chirajiner is still working on his mails from man.
He is poor.
Or not, it's fine.
Okay, okay.
It's not that poor, you know.
Well, he is the lowest net worth of any of the cores in this game.
And it's probably a pretty decent chunk, too.
Yeah, but it's guy delaying into Huskard.
I mean, like, what do you want from, you know?
And he wasn't just only not his whole art.
He was also getting rotated on by bulls.
Yeah, he got the chul, he got the business.
He got the full treatment and business all in one man.
he got his words dewarded, and words planted
against him never saw a rune.
It's kind of, he's kind of ever saw the river past three minutes.
And all that on a Saturday, man.
It's rough out here.
Not only time, this guy's gonna see the river
so if he, those explorers, Malta after this series.
I mean, not seeing it in this early game.
I'll tell you that much.
That's the Huskarm factor right there.
Yeah, despite being in Malta,
He does seem to be a bit landlocked right now.
Still only a 2K network, like it looks a lot better for not even a number show.
Some of that's the chain effect for sure.
But you just don't want to throw away some of this lead around towers.
Like we saw not be do that last game, right?
They pulled the way out in that game.
But that game got murky.
It means to my opinion, they factor with some of those botched tower pushes that were too casual.
And that is not something you can afford to do with Husker.
He needs these objective pushes to work out in his favor and can't just throw lives away.
You gotta make a move here, Dave.
They're gonna make the jump on the confidence you think didn't get the spear back into anything.
I think the intention was there maybe like a centrist on from the check.
Instead, Maladying back, there is Mac, but he's gonna get run down as these keys are me.
the
there's that
is a lot of arms and camps
over you know makes a play pretty awkward
does draw attention though like they get all the tp's out of the which means are not pushing
tier 2's are killing
as long as wants and doesn't get caught here which wants in thanks to his high ground
wards circles around the i.e.
site and can maintain his position. On the enemy side of the map is great for
hand. There's neutral creeps to farm here, but also can cut some waves. When
he sees the opportunity, pull Navi back again.
It's a good spot to be in when you're in this kind of game. Because even if
you get caught in the eye, you rather drive the back to their side of the map
towards their fountain. If dying outside of your base outside of your tier
tunes or the follow, it's just instantaneous. So I like this positioning for
him. It's going to have to be a bit of a racking from the end of here in a bit of a rat
catcher game from naughty. Speaking of a instantaneous follow up. Soxa is looking to do
just that. He also buys a blink dagger. So we're going to see that that inch
apparition tank where you just blink in instant ice. They got them. Got the
Oscar off that high grant. And the high ground ward is done. Amazing for them. It
gets lots and all this extra farm. Now it gets them a monster kill on
Niku 739 gold who cares about Malady, Dime and Adam, then this move was so much bigger.
It also just feels amazing for the index in terms of the mentality of this game. It's like catching
Nagasarani. Every time you catch some here like that in Dota, you feel like you had another 10 minutes of reading.
So that'll go a long way for them. I was going to have to lead out some heroes around this map, but
but game kind of stalling up for Navi to have him grow this lead.
And a little bit here.
Now it's a BKB for the Huskari just dies with it doesn't get the flight.
Not, not these good at getting advantages,
but it does feel like they...
They're not like falcons in the regard of like when they get in advantage,
you can feel confident that they're just going to grow that net worth, right?
as you said, the network is stagnated here.
We've already seen them slip up when they've had the advantage
and, you know, kind of throw that one away.
It's just never that clean for them.
They're a bit of chaotic team.
So, as that works for you, sometimes it works against you.
It's fun to watch.
I don't know if I'm sure.
There you are, a banger, best of five here.
You're not gonna like that.
and
the socks that do with all his goal he's looking at a hand of mine is those good say you got so much gold earlier
on the
on the
us carcass
and you do kind of want the way to some for a because there's a really an item that's
going to impact this big game other than the link
I can't believe the cold feet didn't lie before their twin gate channel, that's crazy.
Well, they're going to take to our mentor.
And Xardoon, what they can to cut the map, though, Malik.
He cut the mid lane with his arcane room.
Science was already on.
He's trail throws at the arena of a PMA just blinks into it.
Hit the stomp.
A little bit of slow down there from the plasma field.
Spear back.
Malik.
One second for the blink.
He can blink, but where is he going to go with it?
the wrong direction.
Blink's up says not running to release here into the trees because Chira Junior
jump by Nico Niki with a VKB.
Not because it's going to show up.
God's review, try to push back this high-scarp, but it means he gets hold in some
finest push-wack.
Malin.
Blink's sacrificial.
He's going to be Nico Niko.
He's going to take out here big hit from socks up.
Blink in ice blast finds its mark.
Now, Chira Junior, desperate TPUA, no blink up, but you're like, oh my!
Oh, this is too easy.
to your game.
Newell at Bellsoftware.com, hello.
How do you say that?
No, I don't.
That just happened in too far.
Because I've done a lot of things.
That's, I'm telling you this spell is booked.
I've been saying it for years.
That is evidence.
We all saw it with our eyes.
I swear there's like some z-axis bug with bushwack.
We're in like doesn't register trees if you throw it up or down.
He'll sometimes.
But that's a discussion for another day.
That's why personal conspiracy theory.
Great ice blast for me a socks that knows his job in this game. It's just a plain blast this guy
I you died, but I died. I don't care. I did my job
That's a salute to the boys right there and you're explained to me how this doesn't look
You're beginning to sound like I always it step-cars wife. It's like
So this is this is
You know, she's talking about conspiracy basketball being rigged. Sorry. It's not with my own eyes. It's rigged
I didn't do it. The only thing I can see there is you maybe just missed the hero.
That's just how to look like.
Yeah, you know, but you know, but come on.
We can run for a lot of this gear.
Find it too with the Ravens bit off.
They got the link on and though with the bushwack reaction from Zion.
They both reacted super fast that that wants and trying too hard to get stuff done.
I still pick up there.
No desu charges for this little chicken.
Still looking for his first impact in this one.
And Navi, as we felt they were stalling out,
suddenly there were vacant supplies and it's not the house guards.
Just gold, fashion, centaur, Dota.
Well, at any time for another Oshan.
There is currently a croaker in the pit.
Hang in, this is a puffer Oshan, it's just really good.
And I almost no matter what kind of pick-all they get,
unless they're seeing an apparition.
you're always gonna be worried for sure
thank you Nico, keep these down to this tier 2 area but socks is entirely alone
he's not no other help he's just waiting for that rose call you know he's just
plotten by this time
get a word here
maybe it's sniping you
cut the way it's a little bit with ice vortex
you'll for a ziats
and they is trying to get that axe
Those how important that is, blink blade now, crimson guard, but now he'll go back for the eggs.
I'll ward him in the cart, man.
Eight cart duties in this one.
You're a smoked at Centaur again.
Really looking for some sort of pickoff plate, open up the roach.
And it's just not given much up here.
maybe a file that was already playing backwards he could be kidney and he does sell PMA doesn't even pop the host on
fix it out
to
another game survived and again the gold never is gonna go up for an obvious year they don't find
pickles
so it's time for the end extra keep farming
The thing is they sought to execute this game at some point with a winner in your midwitch.
I don't think they really wanted to end up with.
It's not what a cheer junior signature hero is or anything.
This hero is pretty volatile from mid.
Like they're lined up, even if we ignore the Huskahar being a cheese hero, I'm not sure
they'll line up as that much fundamentally better, just in a straight-up game.
He's so often execute that even if you get through some of the husk archie'siness, you still have to win the game at door to your.
Yeah, but I mean, how much of that is going to be off the back of the win range or in how much of that is going to be off the back of the chest?
I feel like this is just kind of them buying time and the kids get to do the heavy lifting in 10 out of 15 minutes.
Then go back to Kes. He has been dominant to series.
I don't know if I think it feels like Navi have gotten stalled out too much.
I'm forced to rush with everybody but the houseguard.
I've joined a little later.
There's a roar on this one, so.
See what Soxodos can kind of play with this.
You don't want to just throw the old on the pit.
It's very likely it gets dodged.
So he kind of striered, play-patient.
Yeah, I mean, if Malik can give him any idea of what's going on,
he doesn't have to go for the range-wise flash range.
He's got that blink-decker for reason.
You might just put it into the pit if you can get close.
He's getting close, gets a ward down, so he's a five with field.
I'm going to have to pay to see his guard.
That's the Husgar.
His smoke got in her one's yellow.
Our shot inside the pit.
Rochon's going to be low enough here.
Sox said, does he go for it?
Let me do it for the Rochon Steel or anything but I'm not trying to assassinate you on the Husgar.
I'm surprised they got all that without anything happening.
The end is just didn't have the angle with the bars.
I'm kind of looking at it because I feel like they didn't get that much done off of the last ages.
Anyway,
and if anything, this lineup from Yannix is only gonna get better and better at riding out the game.
I don't know those razors.
You get the big deal, he's far from you.
Turtle, how are you so far ahead?
He is just called you.
I mean, I think he, I assume,
you know, like how Mickay just always uses,
uh, I have to storm off cooldown when he comes to farming early.
I assume he's just been able to do that
do that since all the attention has been on the hooker.
Stanky goes out and he de-managed kill socks up.
Great opening mallet hits the spear to got the juice.
Not much they could do about that.
They're going after signs.
Get that easy kill.
He TP's back for us.
The team falls through the laugh for got the juice.
That has to be nice shackles shot, but is he running to the dazzle?
They have to get this up.
They get hex stuff.
They also have the child brave to worry about.
It's just not worth extending out into all this.
Especially without the A-Live, like you don't want to get drawn into
some long fight, Huskard joins it, he has ages, he has complete freedom without
a on-field.
Yeah, maybe you get the razor kill, you lose everybody else, is that worth it?
Hell no.
So you got to respect how the fights get drawn out and that razor, like we were talking about.
He's made a farm.
That is going to be a tough target to bring down.
Like at some point in this game, I'm not saying you grave razor over
Huskard's on like that, but in the cultural like game, razor could be your bigger
Yeah, the fighters of like the DPS he's dealing with are a fresher eye
storm and all this nonsense like this can be a hero that could just murder
because if he gets some good statically and you can still make eye you have
stamp he to play with you at the car this game could become more or just
sent to our razor again with you like even how far he is rather than the
Husker problem level 25 razor maybe with a refresher like I
had to storm going off and named cardid at the same time does look pretty
disgusting like what do you have to say? Let's see Miku just hurl his ages in the socks
his face. You know why not? The ultimate blood grenade of Dota 2. Even what even worse is his
hand of mine is about to come off cooldown. Oh no, last efficiency man. So I got a lot of stuff
So far ahead too, he was looking at like he's still looking at a refresher.
It's so funny, he's like, what do you do as an ancient
apparition against Oscar?
Your entire game is about hitting the ice blast.
So the item pickups are actually kind of weird.
Got a prioritized making ice blast, the choice possible, which is
getting to the talent, getting refresher, getting Glapnar.
Yeah, how good is Glapnar?
Spellant buff it, but the Spellant buff isn't that
roll it against him.
You know, you can collecters, it's good all this year.
I don't think it's bad good because you want this blink though, but it can be just
good in general.
I get strong there.
Expensive though.
Very expensive.
The shard is also pretty good at it.
On the hunt, and they just mind, maybe, depending on what Niku does,
here when he's in this corner, right, creeps are going to respawn, he's going to start working
his way back down the line again. If he were to go up, he'd run into the high ground ward
and certainly die if he runs right. It's a chance he still gets sandwiched. Oh, he's going to
go up. The placards always spotted him. He spotted the ancient apparition blink.
I think
I can't afford the
I saw him last hopped for the tormentor
Catch the midway through this tormentor at 10
Dig it
I don't care
I don't care
That crimson is
crimson centaur is pretty fucking strong
I don't know, my gut just says this whole game is like some giant debate. Like everybody's mind is just on this
Houseguard. Like, what can we hunt this? Let's go. Can we always blast?
We can kill him. I'm just like, it just raises her center.
I feel like this Razor center are about to just carry his game. Like a load this
Jacked up Razor in the cart and let him go to town. I was going to care about the community more like you're just distraction
They're gonna have to like jump and stun you and throw all this shit on you and Razor. She's gonna clean up
I'm not going to disagree, but Razor is also susceptible to ice blast.
But you're going to like, actually, he's going to see Tannickville.
So that's, let's say if you have to ice blast to Razor, I mean,
just that that's free.
I don't know if it is a free-hoss car game.
I think if they actually focus the Razor with the ice blast,
I don't think the hoss car can just auto win the fight against this case.
That's why I'd feel like like because there are two different answers to the Huskah in my mind in this game
Like you can start rethinking what you want to do is you end it
Well, we'll see what socks I want to do I think he's the kind of player who will not ice blast this razor
I almost no matter what because in his mind he will hold it as a
a
deterrent.
More than anything, but it's how
Skark Committee in the fight, you know?
Sure.
But with satanic pickup, maybe it becomes more
tempting if you can't just 100 to zero in with the single target physical
burst, but you do have a lot of single target physical burst with the
Kazan winner, Andrew.
Yeah, next.
They caught here.
I mean, they are so close to being potentially broken here.
The initiation is going to whip to your junior back
to the way.
Give the head to Mars, the ancient apparition to run down the river.
Let's see if they get out.
They have BKB.
On Malax that he showed us gave no problem. He's gonna pop it actually they're gonna go for the kill on Nico see if he did enough first damage
It's close. I think he takes out the shower. I can't expire get him inside the car. He's got the card he's got
There went to last anyway
It was running out he you were the died of a road. Yeah, the ration is uh, it was too long for that overlap
that's a
a few seconds of the 11 second duration on the ice blast, you know,
shallow grave only last for 5.5 part only last or six.
I mean, if you had a full duration cart, like if you still had to cast and you could
cast it on him there, I think he lives, but you need the entire duration.
Or she was already carding to try and get there in the first year.
Yeah, you're not, you're not getting much value on that.
Let's just a good pick off. Value the A here.
The obvious of the League of 7K.
Looking towards next Roach potential spawn 30 seconds, Butterfly available for Kez.
And you think you'll in this fight how much malady can do with the chin up with your always a
big factor. It's got crimps and he's got creases. God.
So, we're almost done from the PMA, the hologram of the PMA.
It's Watson with the stuff that he's fully got him out the bushwack as well.
Got to do it, so I'm ready to kill the ancient apparitions.
This is a great start.
Malik's still a DKD on cooldown.
He can even be KVTB out of this one.
He's going to be stuck.
He has no TPS growing anyway, so.
Yeah, they were just screwed the second they got found out there.
Nice little pickle.
That's a great word by science.
Haven't had such a, you know.
Get these defensive boards because Yandex have been playing so aggressively on the map.
They need vision on their own ancients
Razor souls 20
He's about to get an MKB so the wind ranger isn't a problem though. I don't know if the wind ranger was ever going to be a problem
And I'm playing in this game.
Hell, it's your junior. You don't want to go for that.
Stay up on the high ground, but oh, man, there's a new.
Got him all the stuff.
BKB, T-B-L, with a win run.
And, you know, and B-N site, he is fine.
His caz online yet. Butterfly.
Done for the caz with level 20.
I think he's all blind, that's for sure, but he will not last, I'll put it this way, he cannot kill all of them on his own survive.
No, so there has to be a team effort, like he cannot kill the Husker and the Razer of Ors be gave you on the out and he gets shredded by one of the other.
So you have to kind of make it a two-pronged attack and there's grave handlers cart to the old.
I don't think you want to give up this next Rochipurian X. I think this has to be a fight from your squad.
Very late Rochpawn. I'm late in the clock, but it will still be top for a bit.
So, now they want to just force that Rochon on their side near their outpost.
Like, they did earlier, they can go for that play, but I think he indexed wheel,
confront them. And they got to be feeling so confident about that too. The MKB
done on got to choose a BKB for PMA. It got some hot new items. Nico is about to complete
and Ags as well. So, three fresh items for three different cores.
to be the first.
They can just land the few stuns they have to set up the damage it'll all come together quickly.
Smoking to a smoke though there is this high ground ward.
They can spot out the juice they jump and they get the sphere on it.
All in with the ice blast, they can't decide to cope with the ice blast.
They'll come through and it's gonna do some damage.
Racers can do a double line in this little period of time.
You got to be outside the arena.
He's not gonna take out the ice blast.
They didn't do enough damage.
Sandwich just too quick of reaction to PMA
If that's PMA they didn't even die
I told you man, I told you it's the centaurator you got to worry about in this game
Oh man, he is shredding them from that card
And they said it's time to build as well just the plus one is I it's
That's why I'm trying to escape
Oh that's it
That's a lost roach fighting
Yeah, it kind of didn't look close to the end, but unless the razor somehow ticks out there,
but I don't know how he ticks out when he's invincible for so long. Yeah, the focus
fire is wasted here, because it's on a razor that's inside the car. The ice blast is
wasted because they didn't get any heroes to blow the threshold, neither the center nor
the razor. And you've got a tunnel because the frames here still buffed, you can't
That's sort of engagement.
Huge teamfight went for knobby now 20k we eat.
It just refresh assured on the Razer.
Level 25 has a statically talent.
He is an absolute monster.
All eyes were on the Huskard but it was got the Jew saying,
I'm up at this game on my back.
4 minutes of ages time, one lane of barracks already dead, goes to their back another
ice-class attempt is this time, a duel's to stop the centaur, beautiful play from Malose.
That's going to ensure the razor dies here once, Malose, the right-class comes back to the
ten another ice-class comes through, doesn't it, Nico?
Nico's low, church in your train station is after a duel's counter though, church in your
couldn't get quite enough damage, Nico?
It looks like yes, he will survive throughout the ice-class, where you show him back
Okay, with the taunted, blow-up to your junior and got to choose to just land and inside their base,
destroying the back-to-back team fights for Nampie, and that should do it, is that it?
That ain't a part of the A3 here, was there three cores dead with no buyback?
I mean, they're at least going to get me, because probably a lot of damage on Tier 4.
The Kesska silence for so long, at the razor just shredded him.
You had to repress your short coming out of that ages.
just does so much damage, melts your armor so fast.
50 seconds left, yeah, this one's done.
There, just gonna go for it.
I need a base, you're gonna have one of my defense
with the Mars hitting an arena spear with an ice blast.
You're just too far behind, it's like,
what else is even if you all land the blast
of the fuss car, you kill him.
Can you win the fight?
I don't think you can.
Do you kinda wonder instead of that second ice blast,
and they went for the Razer on his rebar.
I think it's a bit of a flash.
Try to focus them down.
A great audience is going to good at hitting this news
to stop the card play.
Nikos is going to die as a result,
but a lot about the Razer man.
You still have to fight out your throw.
I can's left until it ends.
Road, ancient expose that has to go for it
out the juice store.
We're going to start training the damage away from Malady
when they're pushing back to the Husker
but the capability to PKB,
He turns back a rod shall agree to just finish off the ancient no problem, not being wood fans to the grand finals of Blast Lamb Sex.
What a turn of the series. From being not down to what it looks like they're just going to get knocked out.
The three one cleanly by Yandex controlling the tempo controlling the traps.
They barely win that game for with the last hit from T.A.
And then in this game five they go for the hustle.
They get A they say whatever we have answers.
The answers, myth tools we have caught, we have brave, we have the place to make it happen
and then they just pump up that razor with all those excuses for a fresher shark.
Here is the real carry, again.
There's just a team ham and answer to what a series performance from the young squad, but
it's tough to go a full BO5 game 5, draft against that experience team, make those clutch
moments happen under the gun, but that they show a big time, make some good adjustments.
is a scary team. Absolutely, despite their strong
performances and group stages and very many of these online games,
qualifiers and such, I think there were still some doubts about
Navi and what they could do and play off matches against veteran
teams. As you said, the best way to be able to prove it in a
best of five on a stage against this watch like hand,
X no already has, you know, they're also young team, but they
already have a tournament win under their belt. They've already
proven they can do it on these big stages. Navi,
launching it up in both game four and game five.
Definitely answers some questions about what this team
looks like on land.
Cause to be that's one of the biggest questions.
Like, okay, you go deep in land.
We know what you can do online,
but can you hold the same level of quality gameplay
can you make the land adjustments that make the difference
and where did they show up today?
Prop some and prop state of the index
for playing with a stand, not easy.
Yeah, absolutely.
And X, they put on a great performance
to get here in the first place, but Navi
will advance the Grand Final for Grand Finals
or set liquid versus Navi.
You'll probably get some words from Navi soon.
I'm going to get words from Navi right now.
Young man, congratulations, first of all.
I think the crowd here have been
given you guys a great deal of support.
How does it feel to have your first winner interview?
Very nice, I don't know, first time in life, but feels so good.
This is said that enough, the liquid grand final.
I think you were about three years old the last time that happened,
said congratulations on that one.
What a series, describes me how it felt,
because it felt like a real back and forth as a spectator.
I don't know.
My neck amped to this series.
I felt as if it was on random.
And it actually was, I don't know.
I'm against on random, I'm against like,
I'm fucking against someone.
Some games before I'm fucked so hard. I don't know. Okay, watch the language. Okay, okay
How many lands have you had with an audience before like this?
What do you?
Does it do you like it does it energize you? Yeah, of course. This better than like some pijero
I have
Okay, what did your coach see why say to you guys before the game to sort of settle he down and say
Alright, this is how you win a game for it.
I'm so glad to ask you,
so I hear so good's man, I don't know.
He thought so much stuff about how we win.
This win is only because of it, it's the way.
Well, I don't think it's just because of that. He would say it's down to you guys,
but so the final tomorrow you're looking forward to what you expect from Team Liquid.
To be honest, I'm the biggest fan of Nisha, but dear Adia, I'll count to you.
Okay, and do you have any words for the fans here who've been supporting you guys throughout the tournament?
Yes, I am, guys, they're not sleeping, you're waiting.
Watch me and cover the games. Sometimes stressful, sometimes funny, but dear here, in finals.
You're an actual at this.
We look forward to seeing you guys play tomorrow.
Congratulations on the win over to the panel.
Yeah, big kids, can now be a neaker.
Bro is born for this.
I swear I am looking forward to the fact
that we're gonna get many won't win this interview.
Win is the interviews for him
and he's a future at their ice career.
Man's just tripping, I don't even know who it is.
Thought whether we talk about his interview
or his game play, it was just,
I love the language called, all right?
Don't need to stress a bunch of random stuff, but he was fought on with either he was doing the fucking or he was getting fucked
I mean Ted is a bad he understands you know when the fall of the language that necessarily I will say we have been gifted with very good interviews recently
I like that you know that don't have to play a personality. I think it's it's on the out
Absolutely on that. I see you guys retired. It was on the hop. Okay
My panel of it. You got a relaxed language
What's the language?
Oh look, let's talk about this because
now we're not making it into the grand final.
We were to talk about, we love the personalities coming out from all these boys.
But when it comes down to play style, random randomness is the name of the game.
And that might just be it when Nick who says he's coming for nature.
Yeah, I mean, I think I think what Ted said or sorry,
when Nick was going to fall on, he is gracious.
It's incredibly round of the game.
Yeah, it's like 60 years between them.
Yeah, same thing, basically.
I think they are incredibly random.
and whether it be playstyle, drafts, anything,
and I think it's incredibly fun to watch.
Now if I was a fan of them, I think my heart would be...
Oh, I thought it was explosive.
I think it might be a guest.
But I think it is super exciting.
I think they are, they're a blast,
and I'm really excited to watch them play out of blast tomorrow
in the finals, I think as well, deserves them.
And I think it will be, it will make for a very entertaining series
regardless of how it goes.
I mean, it's also just for the fact, right?
Like this cup of tea, they've always been like the fifth,
sixteenth.
They haven't really broke into a third place
get to the final date.
Like that is a thing that this roster has never really
experience at a tier 1 event and now that's what they're in a grand final so I think I love the games today
of course you have to think of the back in my liquid a bit more polished in the Andex that's going to be a very
scary beast and that's not for tonight. That's living the moment. NaVee they are getting to a grand finals
this roster it is you know so just cool. And essentially they're a junior team from NaVee that has been
promoted it has gone the long way. This is not a team that's been built by veteran's and big
It's a, you know, let's find the young players from Ukraine,
put them together, teach them how to play Dota within the Navi infrastructure,
and slowly build them up to where they are today.
So I think this is like what you want to see in Dota.
It's just going to be a bang a series tomorrow.
I think like having this, you know, the young team with the young players,
like, when some of these like important games,
and like you said, K-O, they games, it's a B-O-5,
fifth game. You pop off with the Haskar, even though you're playing into the A-A,
you know, your teammates are doing what they need to do,
to also help you through the game.
That's good stuff. I love it.
I love it. Yeah, we don't maybe a little oopsie overseeing the A band, but it feels like it played perfectly into their hand.
And it was actually more of a bit of an oopsie from Yennex to fall into that to feel like you have to pick up the A now the number one Canada or
Husker. Yeah, but sorry Quinn game when he does it doesn't take before we get carried away.
It was the dazzle that set the motion they panic they picked the kids they picked the wind ranger then they get
But, BAM!
Husker in the face, you know?
Then you suddenly pick an inch in that Parisian Saxo.
Why are you playing A-Boss?
You're like, the map playing here.
Why are you playing a weak lane?
Like, BAM!
It has to...
Dazzle.
Oh, did it.
That's a long one, we've got it.
Yeah, that's a lot.
I don't think they're right here on the side, didn't see anyone.
I vaguely remember the race coming out of here.
That's right at the time.
He killed all of it.
This guy's good.
Flegal reason, come up with a draft when...
Not the game, which we've watched.
Because from the game, it's quite different.
It's very bad to you, Nip.
Back to you, Quinn.
Talking about the Huskah.
No, I mean, I think.
And how you play against an AA if anyone wants
to replicate it in that pubs?
I think really you need to win your lane.
Do all these good early moves, which you could do.
I think that was honestly the biggest part of the game
because once AA gets to this blank tiger,
you kind of just have to go AFK farm.
I think he bought all the right items.
He knows this matchup.
He knows the fact that you kind of just can't play.
Well, a little this up seem to go farm for a long, long time
until you're really, really farm, then you can play a little bit
more.
And so I think the huge part was that he got the solo kill
and cheer junior.
they gank them again, come on again, they take the mid tower, they take the wisdom run.
Like this A gets us all so late that he actually gets like 10, 11, 12 minutes where he gets to play the game
before he used to go into secluded hiding mode.
I mean, they just abuse a lot of, I think the weaknesses, because at some point, Yannics, I would say they were somewhat forced to pick the A, like I understand to pick.
It's maybe not what they want, but at that time, we kind of thought we're not going to see if you didn't have too many materials that they want to play at the end.
So you go with the A, but at that moment, I just think they abuse everything in the early game.
They did well with their lanes, they played well third or on later on.
you get the card for like another save.
So I think for Navi, you know, all the things they had to do,
they kind of did.
I think, you know, when it mattered, they made it happen.
And that's how they did it.
Well, look, I want to keep praising Navi and everything they did
right.
But we're going to have tomorrow to still talk about that.
For now, though, I want to focus on Yandex
and some of their last moments to be full.
They left the studio.
Y'all in here with Mallody, or Bessilla,
just lost that series that's in Navi.
Mallody, if that felt like a series
it could have gone either way, just tell me how it felt
from yoga perspective how the series went,
obviously, at this point of the U-Loss,
but what we're wrong there.
I think we weren't kind of prepared with enough
for this game.
There's surprises, a lot with this underlord
or sex changes with the world work,
and they just have too much heroes
which we cannot deal with.
And the last game we should have had
a Husker second-face instead of the tiny,
I think the cities could go both ways today. They're stronger than us.
Fair play. Was this match up then do you think it was all about draft?
Because it felt like you guys were both so evenly matched.
Do you think it just came down to the drafting in the end?
Or was there some execution problems there as well?
I think game number four was definitely the execution problem.
But the game number five? Yes, it was the draft problem.
I kind of felt that the AA was an answer to Husker, but they found a way around it.
What were you hoping would happen with the AA that the Husker would just, you'd be able to take him out of the game, it didn't really work out.
What went wrong there? Because it felt like for a while you might have had it.
I think we were thinking that we're just going to farm, and AA will eventually have his drink dagger,
and Huskers going to die inside of arena, but eventually they have the centaur with
that going to soak and save him. And yeah, maybe it should have gone to centaur, but it is
what it is. It is what it is. You are up to playing with a stand in this tournament. You've
made it to the semi-final. I know you disappointed, but you must be proud of the fact you
You made it this far with a stand-in.
Okay, okay, do you have any words for the Yandex fans
who've been supporting you guys and cheering for you?
There have been plenty here in the arena as well.
I think it's not our last tournament after all.
In three days, we're gonna have to dream like after Dreamhook
we're gonna have to be jail, or be jail,
we're gonna have to bring them gal.
So keep believing in us.
Yeah, and thank you for their support.
Yeah, the whole super valid thing for malady.
There, I know, is an absolute roller coaster of emotions that have just come off the back of an incredibly close best of five,
where you sit there and you think we should have been in the hospital.
We should have been in the center.
In fact, we should have won game number four.
A lot of these were short of us, but it did end up going the way of Navi and see end X.
They have to look towards those upcoming tournaments for themselves that they
for themselves that they mentioned that I'll be playing over.
What is going to be back to back to back to back to back?
Because the Dakota Calendigia is absolutely full of amazing matchups.
And most importantly, the one that's happening tomorrow,
Liquid and Navi Grand Finals.
It's a better. It's hype. It's very hype.
I think Liquid, the favorites here.
I think it's a well-deserved slot for them.
I think they have looked the dominant day thrashed Odechoji today.
The game three was ended up being closed, but the series overall was not fest.
And so I think Navi, they need to clean it up a little bit.
They are sort of characterized by the chaos,
but if you make the norm mistakes you made today against the liquid,
they will trounce you.
So I think Navi, you've got to bring your A plus game.
A flat might not be good enough.
Yeah, you need that double plus game tomorrow.
You know, the chaos may be that's good enough to be liquid,
because liquid they're going to play fast.
If you're not ready, they're going to whack you out of the game.
And we all know how dough the works.
It's only one winner.
Doesn't matter how well you play even in this game.
You know, you talk about it.
It's unfortunate that we lose, but
Though at the end of the day, if you compete, most of the days are going to suck,
because there's only one team that wins the tournament.
You're going to go to bed a lot of the time.
We're losing, we need to do this better, but it just depends on the next day,
when the next time. So you're going to be happy, isn't there, right, team?
Yeah, and luckily, I have nothing to say, because all I want to do is go to bed.
And think about this beautiful Grand Finals tomorrow.
Look, it is not far off that Grand Finals. It is a latest dot time
than what we have been having today, because it is going to be so much
And our brand final, Best of Five, but close in at Blossom, six tomorrow.
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