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Team Yandex vs BetBoom Team - BLAST SLAM VII: Copenhagen, Playoffs, Day 3
06-06-2026 · 10h 31m
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He goes is gonna get over growth though Roach getting quite low care to jump in as well
Who's gonna get blasted off the road?
Can he smash?
GPK takes it.
The chase is on.
Save.
Can he get the cancellation of the TP?
Oh the creeps coming in.
From the bear will survive Miro Johnson the big zombie man.
Flash going his out.
Oh.
GPK with a beautiful coil onto several heroes in the decay there just starting to stack up.
Overgrowth onto two BKB targets.
Skeeter dead.
Jules won't keep you safe for only so long.
Shows up now, and the flash go on to get the bash on to you.
They're just going to call it a check.
Nobody's even died yet.
Let's get the hell out of here, guys.
Befum takes a 2-0.
We spot it.
Yuma, he finds himself a whole clockwork snack,
takes him down instantly.
Tylong in the meantime, killing off the witch doctor,
and just like that, the play is over for Liquid.
Ailu snapped fire as well.
Looking for the crush.
Not even going to find it, but Tylong still gets gusted.
There's a guardian angel, as Mikkei bean-fly sun pressure from Whisper, another dodge.
His hook shot comes in onto two heroes, beautifully done from Theolokora, so the fuck is gonna be A-okay.
Instead, they surround for Ace.
Why is he not featured here?
They get a song just to set things up.
They still have Ag, by the way, with the Sunray to follow.
Oh, my goodness, Tofu dies on the other side of the Ag, and they're gonna find four again and a fish.
A full team-wide unscanned for LGD.
And into song, onto the draw ranger, Mickey's dead, no buyback.
And LGD will move on to face the winner of Falcon vs. Aurora.
Try to strike back here with a BKB, but it doesn't really...
I mean, with WS rolling forward, they hit it.
The blast comes in, but they're on all the heels.
Now they might just live this.
You gotta kill.
So on the swashbuckles there,
And Makoto with a second life, ready to chase down the Chen.
Look for Snake King.
Makoto, get it back in the push road.
They tried to lead the fight, but Makoto's gonna get
infected by the Nightmare, but he will still die,
but it will cost skin on his life.
And my trust will be with the static,
with the Nightfall.
And then he'll come up the ember, with him falling,
and I'll be all that the core is dead.
Oh, come on, let him.
Here we go.
He's going for it.
And he doesn't get it in the rampage.
A Nightfall.
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Welcome back to another day of Blast Slam 7.
We're into our penultimate day of the playoffs and the tournament overall and we've already
been whittled down to 14s.
We started off with 12 just a couple of weeks ago, well, two weeks ago.
Now we're down to four and I do have three lovely gentlemen beside me.
Kezzler got clean and I got tea. See how you doing today?
I'm doing good. I had a pesto sandwich so all I can feel is pesto in my mouth so this might be awkward but yeah I'm doing good.
I had a pun on chocolate um and why isn't that what I asked? You guys are going to always make it food related.
That's all we've done in the morning. We wake up, we eat and then we don't. So like okay we're giving you the most
bread of information. So I even played he outside of mocha. It was very it was chocolatey and smooth.
Panchroklot brings the highest right now out of all the foods. What did you eat today, Kesar?
I had the bread with butter and cheese was very nice.
A Parfait in the studio and that's about it. Just a chill start to the day.
Okay, I feel like Queens is by far number one.
What is it right? Pesto outside?
Pesto outside.
Or bread and butter.
He went outside to a real bakery, so he's gotta be at the bottom.
I personally think it's Panchroklot, bread and butter, and then pesto. But I'm just not a pesto.
I like pesto, so I would have ranked you higher, but that's okay. Take the L.
It's not an L?
You ranked him the lowest because I'm not an L.
I confess to my breakfast to you and then you just throw it to the wayside
I think she's trying to make us one by one not talk about breakfast in the morning
I'm trying to do that
Yes, well, I'm gonna will you guys down to you make the conversation about Dota
But I'm gonna do that for us because we're gonna look at our bracket here
Like I said, we started off with 12 teams
Of course, we only had six teams join us here in Copenhagen for the playoffs and as of yesterday
We did say goodbye to Liquid who got O2'd by LGD and
and Falcons who ended up going to a game number three against Aurora who did eventually end up winning that one for themselves
and find it that they're going up against LGD. That'll be later today.
Beppu and Yandex is our second, well, our first series of the two today.
Yeah, this is a barn burner. I think it's the two favorite teams of the tournament.
They both look super, super good with slightly different styles, but I think they both come into their own.
And to me, I think Beppu might even be the favorite in this one. They've looked great.
And I've been really impressed by all the players. They're super solid and it's hard to find anywhere in that team to like actually exploit
They I would agree that Beppermann like slight favorites because Yankees looked a little shaky here and there
But if they can clean it up, this team is insanely good
I have very high hopes for them and I think it's like not really strange that these are the four teams that are still left
I think out of all the games you've seen they've shown like the highest skill and the most ability
I mean, it's also like two teams that will be able to no matter what the best of three
I don't think it's us to our draft as oh, it's the draft is why they lost this game
Like they will have weaker drafts potentially
But still we have to perform and create these opportunities of like competitive games
So we are kind of nearing you know the best of threes that are going to be just a lot more meaningful than some of the ones that we've seen so far
Do you think there's anything from yesterday when you look at these four teams?
I mean he's already saying he doesn't really think it's necessarily down the draft
Maybe a bit more execution is there a team that you think has a lot more to go that we could still see a lot more from them in this tournament?
are you going actually they're all very even playing field and I'm not sure where the growth comes from me all of them
So have room to grow. I would say bedroom seemed like the most stable overall
I think LGD have the the highest highs and the lowest lows and so far they've been more on I would say the lower side
But they show some really cool drafts and good stuff overall and they did improve a lot outside for just a match
They played yesterday. Yeah, I thought that the dark sir pick especially was really cool against the draw ranger
They had some some creative answers still not sold on the Omni night
But I do think that LGD is by far the most inconsistent team and I'd also say probably the weakest going into these last couple of days
I think they they definitely have the most to prove especially since I think a lot of these other teams
Especially the individual players have one turn and so forth. They've gone really really deep LGD
I don't think has had quite the same success on any of their players
And so I think they have they have more of like a rock on their shoulder saying, you know
We we need to prove that we're at the top level because I don't think everyone's fully sold on them yet
I mean it's also what four teams three east of Eastern European teams
So it's like, if you kind of want to have that, you know, interregional clashes or not interregional clashes, regional clashes, sorry, then you need LGD to kind of go a little bit further.
But I agree. I think the volatility is also what's allowing them to be so competitive. I just hope they have the right side of that volatility against Aurora later.
We're going to look at how all of these teams have been placing throughout our last few Blast lands because for so long and has been the history of Tundra comes in.
comes in, they get that blast slam, buffer themselves, they lift the trophy, and the only two of the teams that have been able to lift a blast slam trophy,
Betbombe and Liquid. Liquid not still here, Falcon's not here either, and their best placement in a slam is second, but looking towards Aurora, LGD and Yandex,
there's the potential for them to lift their first slam trophy, and for Betbombe to be finally able to relift the trophy.
I mean, I feel like with slams, it's a type of format that really challenges the drafters, the coaches, and just the mentality of teams, like having to do best on group stage, and then eventually they're adding elimination from the group stage.
Often having single-limb brackets, this is the first time we have double-limb. It's like the entire format test is like, you have to actually be a good team, the entire event.
You can't just have a bad day and still survive. And that alone, it's like the fact there's four tundra wins, one liquid, one BB.
I think there's a good chance that we are going to get a new winner, but again, BB is like, they're probably going to lock in their second as well.
in that second as well. They are favourites as we said, both of the four.
At the same time too, I think the point you made earlier, when you get to this stage of the tournament,
obviously draft always matters. You cannot downplay it in a way, but when you get here,
you want to also be able to, when you're slightly disadvantaged, you need to be able to win through your gameplay.
And I think that most of the teams that we have left, I think they can do it.
And if you want to up your placement, you've got to be able to show that.
Yeah, you definitely do. I feel like a big chunk of it is also simplifying things for yourselves
and getting like a specific play style that you run over and over again and you force teams to beat you
and you just keep like you you up the gameplay through the simplicity of like how your heroes are.
I think that's how we see a lot of teams win tournaments these days is you've got this chunk of heroes
and you have to beat this stuff and if you don't then we're just going to run you over.
So then looking at yesterday because all of our remaining four teams did play yesterday except for
yeah next what were the standout heroes and is it just a very team specific sort of matter at the moment
or is there still this overarching, we can see a wide variety of heroes play for every team.
It's very open because it is very team-specific and even player-specific. I think if you look at
what Bedboom did yesterday, you know, they gave up Drowranger twice and had super cool idea.
Like Offlane undying is not something we've seen before, even Katoomi, he goes with,
you know, with the Winter Wyvern. You just have like every player is so different and I think
that's what makes teams and Dota at this level just so interesting. Yeah, I mean the fact is
all heroes here are different and it's like that means that if you respect the say the bb winter
wyvern then you're going to go through a lone druid or a draw ranger into the draft and you
need to be able to deal with that and then even on this graphic lgd they go for the omni darksir
because they gave away the the drought to be able to pay the darksir they also don't really care about
lone druid too much in at least in the bands they don't pick it themselves they're allowing teams
to go for it so as much as we're seeing unique heroes it's also unique approaches to what heroes
they respect in the bands and i think all four teams have a very clear identity this is not a
tournament where it's like there are 10 heroes that everyone must play non-stop.
It feels like there are kind of unique solutions getting presented.
Yeah, I love that. Whenever it's not everything is figured out, then it's not
just you pick Chikiro and there's no counter to Chikiro and that's all it is.
It's like, good luck. Winner-Winner-Ribern is a hero that's got a lot of
classic counters, there's a lot of different counter plays and things you
can have against that hero. So it allows teams to be creative and craft things and
you can see interesting new avenues. We saw KS Knight yesterday, stuff like that,
that these more unusual drafts open up opportunities
for unusual counterpicks.
And I think that's just more exciting
to see the creativity and the depth of knowledge,
not just the specific close timeframe knowledge,
but more like into Dota history.
I love that stuff personally.
And I think it's also cool because one pick
from one team can really likely make another team react
with their own pick.
If you have some Oracle Winter Wyvern lineup,
suddenly you can see a specter.
You can see a Nightstalker come up from someone else.
So I think it's just always very interesting
to also understand because you need to know
what the enemies may want, what are they good at, like it's a double support who did it, love being in the backline
do they play more me-leasers or are in the frontline, like all of these things, they interact so like
in a complex way with one another
Oh, it's like I wanted to add the D
I did, but now I don't, I'm redacting
Yeah, I'm redacting
He's taking it back, he's taking it back, he's taking it back, he's taking it back to you guys
They rolled it back
Back to me?
Um, I mean personally, I think, what do you think about that one for a moment?
Yup, we're back
I call it back
No, I I think it's fascinating. They're able to first pick Winter Wyvern and it actually works for them
So for Beppelm specifically that to me is the like the most standout one because no one else really touches this hero
And they first pick it. That's a really big disparity
I think there's something to be said for not many people touch it and use second phases sometimes
They're like now we think this year was OP
I do think Katomi is the best to my Wyvern player
But even if you're the best winter Wyvern player like there's people who are the best spectre player
You can first pick that hero
So we literally talked to Nightfall and we're like how come Ursa isn't working for him right someone who said he is like
two thousand games in us. You have to be really good at that here, but also have to be a good
game for that here. Yeah, and I think they have sort of challenged that and said, even if it's not
a good game for Winner-Weber, it's still good. They just jam it in. Yeah, that to me is really
impressive and shows like a mastery of the hero, but also understanding of how to make a draft that
works with it because you can't just have it in the worst game ever against the heroes and also
with your heroes. You need to pick in a way that complements it and I think that always has really
solid lineups that help each other. I mean, that's the thing. I found my redacted point, by the way.
the way. It's the fact that
unredacting it. Unredacting it now.
If that's okay with you guys.
Of course it is.
Is how ruthless BB are compared to the top four teams.
The reason why we are saying they probably will look towards being in the grand finals
is because they win when like they need to win the game.
Like other teams like Yandex, they're like kind of beating out and trying to obtain more gold.
LGDs are a bit more back and forth of how they're playing.
But at least for BB, it's like they like they are winning.
I think it's like 40 minute average whilst all the other teams is like 47 or 46.
And you're going to see it here.
Like it might not look that much, but I feel like it actually is quite important to note
Like there was a major disparity in like eight minutes, you know, between, you know, the likes of BB and LGD.
I mean, when you factor in like wind times, you also have a factor in when are they pushing high ground,
because that's always been the hardest thing for so many teams to be able to break.
Even when you're up 20k, 30k, it can still be hard, but if you're pushing it earlier and you're winning earlier by default,
it does just feel the game becomes better for you to play out. There is so much more for you.
Yeah, and if Yandex did actually win that game against LGD, the average wind time would have just been astronomically high,
because of course, you know, the two hour game.
Oh, the 111.
We're really lucky they didn't win that one,
because again, that would have re-ruined the stat there,
but still, I think, like, even with Yandex,
like, they had like 10K, 20K gold lead,
and they're kind of pulling some old school
tundra mentality a little bit.
I don't think it's a problem,
because if you want to win cleanly,
but it is something to note that when you kind of make
the game last a little bit longer,
because of your own choices,
you are given some opportunities for comeback,
but we are yet to see them against Yandex.
We're going to focus up then,
Yandex up against that boom,
You've talked about the discrepancies. Yes, Yandex have had that extremely long game that they ended up losing against LGD
Betboom closing out games a lot faster
But the forms of both of them arrived to the upper bracket finals and is my bigger question because Yandex had to play in those
Back to back not back series the first series and the third series on day one
And then they took a day off that been played their one series yesterday
And that's all that we've seen of them so far in this Copenhagen playoffs. Yeah, I think the
the two days in one day and then the off day can be a little bit tricky off days are a funny thing in playoffs
I think oftentimes it can be bad for you because you're sort of building a momentum throughout a tournament
You're playing and you win the next thing you play and you win and you're building confidence and you're building that okay
Every day I wake up and we go to the we go to the studio and we win and that you can feel and we win
That's how it feels though like there's a certain vibe to whenever you're really confident and you just know what's gonna happen
It's not a question. It's not like all we need to try to beat them
It's hard you you show up and you are gonna win
And I think those off days can break that momentum a little bit
And I think you need to be really locked in you to really have a good mentality on that off day and not like sort of
Get out of the competing mindset because you're still in the tournament even though it doesn't feel like it on that one day
I think it's just important that because they have looked very good
But also a little bit shaky within their game
So I like the off day you should use like some screens
I think also like not even overly too many like you know just a little bit of practice stay warmed up
But then also talk about the games that you did play before what are the good things?
in those games. What were the bad things? What are you trying to shape up maybe one different
hero here or there, one little move in the early game that you want to make different,
and then in the mid game, okay, what is the main objective? Don't make it too complicated,
stay in the same zone, and go on to the next lane.
And it's also like Bibi when you look at, obviously, Yandex had the day off,
but Bibi, the way that they won, they played four heroes out of the five the same in both games.
It was a lone druid game as well. They had Undying, Inter, Drowsy, all these little factors,
as a coach for Yandex, you're like, this is not going to happen in our game. So this is actually
important information as well. So you've had a day off. So you're invalidating Pepin's win?
Yeah, Lukey. Exactly. Let's go to you. There you go. There you go. Good job. Because so
Falcons are just griefing this upper bracket, even though they're not in the tournament anymore.
Because they're stuck in. They can manwall the down. I mean, that's fine. They can
rock up and join the panel if they'd like to. But that's it. We'll call them up.
Yeah, you can call them up. I'm sure. I mean, sometimes it makes a cameo in Denmark.
Speed dial. Oh, I got them on speed dial. Which one would you speed dial though, out of the
option? Oh, I get them all instantly. The guy's gonna, he's gonna shit talk everyone. He's gonna
to shit like you the moment he gets it. That's perfectly fine. And every time I go into a pub with
him, he's always all chatting my name, no matter what. It's really awkward because I feel the pressure
of having a bar, you know, recognize me. We're going to focus back up on Beppin because we can see
them on our screens there. They're not only number one when it comes to closing and winning games with
that 40 minute mark there that you pointed out to, but the fact that they are also the top three
KDA players there. And you've got it in, but they're offline, they're mid lane, and they're
carry so it's your three cores are topping this tournament right now when it comes to KDA.
It's a little bit nasty. That's dirty. That's crazy. I don't think I've seen that ever really.
You haven't ever. It's all three players from a one specific team. I think it's one thing to have
two players. I think oftentimes you'll see like the mid and carry at the top. But to see the off
lane are actually at number one. And then his mid and carry I think is kind of crazy. And it just
it's always been the way this team plays to me. They're just a really low death team. It's when
And when you think back, like, GPK is always, like, number one on these lists, so he never
dies and he has a million kills.
And the fact that the other cores are in the same boat and not appear like nine-fourteen
times a game, I think is very impressive.
And it's part of what makes this team so scary is they're just so solid.
I've used the word robotic before, and I'll say it again, like, they're just, they have
really good structures and they stick to it.
And it's just so hard to actually find weaknesses or moments to kill them, because they're just,
like, I don't know, they follow their structure so closely.
Oh, certainly.
Like, sorry, like, with the KDA that they have, it's first of all really hard to kill
them individually because they understand where to be on the map when to step back when to go forward
but then also you don't see the supports on you know on the script there but obviously they
that's exactly what i was about to say there you go there it is keep taking keep going there
because it's just like you know like saving katomi first of all with what katomi plays right he's
very defensive he's going to help the people so they don't die and my boy save this guy he's the
shit this guy's good my boys realize what they're okay looking hold on he's
looking he's my link he's liking it he's like is he looking there's a smoke
right now that's not my boys by the man I was gonna ask him how they're small
across the entire roster they enjoyed it they like they liked it that's a great
graphic I mean but it is a hundred percent true like this the supports
on BBR always so like ruthless in their positioning, they're warding, all the things that go kind
of often unnoticed in a game, especially because you know the cores will take the limelight
when you look at MVPs and stuff, but like they are always doing their job very well,
and maybe that's something that you can look towards in the index, like take away some
of the save supports, take away some of these you know mechanics that allow them to break
a smoke to contest erosion, because once they fall apart, you then put pressure elsewhere,
and like vision is so important, and these supports always seem to have like all vision
in a game.
wonder that approach that even Watson himself is going to have because we've
seen him play the TA a number of times and he's been able to have this luxury
of when the lanes break down he still gets to sit in safe sorry he still gets
to sit in top lane safe sort of uncontested but I want like up against
Beppu I don't think you're gonna have that I think the supports are gonna be
operating very differently and so then it comes down to how strongly you're
gonna be in your lane are you gonna be coming able to come up against the likes
of Amir and save off lane yeah it's just Beppu are not a team that really give
I think any space when you don't deserve it and it's especially this duo as well of like near unsafe
They've played a long time together like years and years on the same roster and like many TI's and whatnot
Like when you go up against them, you know that they're they're a different beast
It's same for like Madadi and Watson
You also know that they obviously have played together for a long time too like they've got all the games and I think also the knowledge and also
Just like the overall friendship like to to back it up and be like after a game
You don't have this like how can I tell this guy about this problem or how do I present it?
It's like you can be very open and very free when you've played with your bro for over 700 competitive matches like Miro and save have done
And these guys are good like they absolutely win this they should win, but they also win they said they absolutely have no business winning
Yeah, I can tell you playing against this team is a gigantic pain because you have to pass the laning skill check
I think they are probably the single biggest laning skill check team there is if you are not really good at lanes
You can't beat this team straight up
I think that's oftentimes we would get smacked by them as they would just beat us early in we just couldn't get off the ground running
We would just be trampled every game and I think that is but you know you talked about can T
Actually stay there and keep farming
I think that is a big question against his team because he mentioned it earlier Yennec
Sometimes they have some games that they're behind a little bit and they come back through amazing team fighting against that boom
You might not get that chance because they have so much gold that you can teamfight like gods and it doesn't matter because you'll just lose anyway
So I think in some ways the pressure is on Yennec's to lane really well and to keep up with that booms laning excellence
I wanted to know more a little bit about this that it's not my job to talk to the plays
It's Reyes, and she got to chat with Saxon before then, Matt Trump.
You have had DM join your team recently. Very cool.
You're working with him in the off lane.
I was wondering, does that actually ever affect your hero pool at all?
Or do you still just kind of pick what you're good and comfortable with?
I think it affects me a bit.
Sometimes, like maybe, I think with him, I have like more of a hero pool I can play.
I think my choices are higher.
So I think I still play what I want.
But overall I think it stays mostly the same.
Okay, and in terms of like game style, does that also get affected?
Do you feel like you kind of have to play with DM a bit more?
Or do you feel like you have more freedom on the map?
I feel like I have more freedom, I say.
I can leave him alone kind of most of the time.
Like we talk about it and I think, yeah, I think I have more freedom now.
So overall you say DM, massive boost for the team.
You're feeling great about it.
I think, yeah, it's been good.
Okay, and now talking about the actual matchup, you're here, you're playing against Betboom,
you've had an amazing tournament so far, so has Betboom, but what do you think is going
to be the key difference here between your teams to see who comes out on top today?
I guess we just need to play around their hero pool, I think they like to play like
a few heroes for like each player, so I think we need to understand what you want to give
them and how to play against it, and if we have a good idea I think we can get on top
of that.
They have Burger King.
They do have Burger King.
I don't know. I don't know.
That logo is too good. That logo is too good.
There's no way I can not not say it.
Imagine you finish game one and then your manager just brings in like Burger King.
Cause there is one.
It's fucking double whopper time.
Like it is go time.
It was the Burger Boys, but it turns out you indexed the Burger Boys.
They take the crown now.
This might be the most beef match ever and there ain't no hatred between them.
It's the Burger Brule. That's good boys.
That's hype.
I'm not gonna think about any more burgers, but sucks are talking about the fact that he repulsed what they have to play around, but I like it. He's honest. Yeah, you can. He has a bit more freedom for himself. So I'm hoping that the freedom isn't in the way of moving towards mid, which we normally see sports going. It's through that twin gate and helping you stay
isn't in the way of moving towards mid, which we normally see supports going, it's through that
Twin Gate and helping you save Flayne a little bit more. You've highlighted the offlane of Bebben
so much that it feels very intuitive or natural now that Sucks's focus needs to be on going through
that Twin Gate and helping you save Flayne if they're in a rough position. Yeah, it's the battle
of the fours. Both Miro and DM have shown for this moment they can be left alone, they can make these
moves and enable their force to do all these kind of maps shenanigans. So it's like the offlanes need
to be stable so the four players of Ivor Team can shine because I think often it will be them who
who can conduct the early game.
So yeah, it is save versus AXA and the stability
of the off-lanes.
All right, there's a lot of focus around
so many different moving parts.
Here, Paul focused on the side of Yandex.
I'm not even sure how Bepbom are going to show up today
after T discredited their win with a double loan
drew and picked that.
Let's see if they get their hands on loan drew.
This time it's our upper bracket final, best of three.
a game number one draw so win here in this best of three would put them straight into
the grand finals for either the side of yandex or bet boom and not really knowing the form
I mean, I think that's a
little bit of a difference.
I mean, I think that's a
little bit of a difference.
And the bedroom is in clearly
because yesterday going up
against Falcons team that
ended up getting eliminated
along with liquid. You do
wonder what else do they have?
We know there is more, but
getting to see it is a whole
different story. The puck
taken out the Beast Mazda. The
loan droid is definitely a
lot less into that banning it.
And is that shattered even is
for me as just, this hero is just too strong. It's just built different. You can't give
him this hero, I think, just straight up. It's just not okay.
It's always like, I feel like puck in tournaments will become a late phase pick, or people go
all by themselves, amazing still, and they're suddenly first phase. So even banning it here,
you might go, well, they're not going to ban it, pick it in first phase. They will. Teams
will do that. So you need to be respectful of the heroes straight away.
There are some heroes that are left through in this draft that we saw banned a lot yesterday.
I think at least Doom is one of them.
Also, Kez is a hero that both of teams play quite a lot.
This is a hero that even if it doesn't get picked in this phase,
you have to be aware into the next one as well
about where you want to go with it.
Even the Drown as well, there's so many options,
but that's where the respect, the uniqueness of the teams
is shining in this playoffs with the Bane ban.
Do you feel like DB's bans are a little bit more stable
towards the tournament?
This first pick, Snaphire, is interesting to me,
because, like you said, the Kez is open.
And I feel like GPK of all the mid players,
like he's such a smith, there's the Kez,
but that was pretty good against Snapp, I think,
because it's just very hard to actually do anything
with the globs or any of your spells,
like kiting and mobility is very good against Snapp Fire.
And this year was sort of the king of that
from a carry position.
So I like the response.
What if it is just like Snapp for Saksa?
Like Kez is relatively squishy in nature.
So if you are just getting shotgun to the face
in lane phase, with an off lane that has
a little bit of damage as well. You could make an argument that you can fight into the Kesin lane.
It probably could be like that. It's just a snap for or they're playing with like the idea of okay,
like if we put snap mid, we'll always like have a good lane into GPK because we don't have second
pick anyway. But I do want to see also where they take it like with their off-laner. In my opinion,
if you were bad boom, you're looking at a potential ban on the doom. We haven't seen that many other
heroes like do well against Kes overall. There's always like, there's the Tide, Timber, but even
Even those heroes, like if you play well as a kez, and this is the stage of the tournament where people play their heroes to the top level, they still get slaughtered by this hero on the lane.
What about heroes that I don't think I've ever wanted to call for, like the Largo in the offlane as well, right?
It's like you have to dispel against the kez, you partner nicely with the Sapphire.
Again, I do hate the hero.
Was it the song yesterday that convinced you?
Exactly.
Largo.
Largo.
Largo.
That was a good song.
I do like that one.
It's very catchy.
The chorus, it does slap.
Still a Largo Hater though.
Still a Largo Hater, 100%.
I hate the hero. But I can see a World of Yandex look towards these types of heroes.
It's just tough, and I think it's a good start for Beppum because we talk about this team being Beast Mode in lanes.
They've already picked a hero that we can't come up with a single hero that actually beats it in lane.
So you've already got a lane that's drawing at a minimum, and when you've got a drawing lane, that means the 5 is going to be freed up to do things.
So the rune fights are coming, the potential ganks are coming, and the early pressure is already pretty much guaranteed
guaranteed because you've got one lane that almost can't lose, at least not from what we've seen,
and that is Bekvam's bread and butter whenever they have self-sufficient heroes so the supports
can move around because they are so so good at putting pressure. And it is a lot of the time,
like especially at the later stages of the tournament or when a team is owning, the supports
they get overlooked, like even with the graphic we showed, the rightfully so right, the three cores
are on the top of the KDA, but without the supports like doing it nicely and like T also said before,
the supports are generally the ones that they conduct the early game. You know the first move
that you talk about Saks, that he can like tip you to the safe and he can go through the twin gate,
like it all starts from there, like you go safe for a minute five, then you go mid together with the
four and five, suddenly you're three people there, so you gotta respect everyone, not just the old
used to mid, he's the carry, it's gotta be all five. And the fact that BB are so strong in their KDAs
and these stats, most often picking their heroes very clearly, it's like they often go like this
are often combo, this is our carry combo, they're not a team that drafts in a way where they're
trying to disguise every single pick, they're trying to like kind of string you along to the
the very end of the draft. Like this is the safe lane combo.
Yeah, it's a weird combo, this one. I don't feel like generally Tree is super good with
Kez. Although I mean the heroes are both just strong laners in their own right, so maybe
it's fine. Kez just, I haven't seen this hero lose lane, but typically when you think of
Tree you think of him with turrets, not with melee heroes, so I wonder why they want it
per se here.
I was thinking that maybe because Axe is the hero that went a little bit over my head.
Obviously this year was quite good against Kez. First of all they played the tree in yesterday and it looked quite good
But I agree that the dual lane itself is a bit
I mean they both want to like be up close and hit you in the face
Maybe it was like a bit of a deterrent to a potential doom coming out on Yannix
I would consider tree and quite good against this here, you know overgrowth against this BKB
You slow down tower pushes and whatnot you help people in their lanes, but I think Yannix made a nice pivot here
I do think X snap is very strong together
And they're keeping the snap flex alive right by taking the position 5 here as well again
Nothing too crazy. They just have really strong fighting lanes
And we we said that BB they're the team that will you have to check them in the laning phase make sure you there
But when you have damage you can't do that like literally enable most carries to fight snap back
You will fight like everything that yandex says in the first three pictures
We will try and get as many kills as possible in the laning phase
The sub do it might be weird, but could you squeeze in a potential SD?
What would you guys hate that? The support or is weird with three SD, but against fine acts lich
Maybe it's okay save that's played. Yeah combo breaking it shandex is pretty important, but they're not up for it
I would back that stupid call keep it up everyone. I
Mean if BB lose I think maybe they're stupid and they should have listened to you with the shadow demon
I'm excellent there. We'll get back to that later. They wouldn't they're still stupid and should have listened to you
That's also true. Let's keep it up guys. This is this is a good scenario. Amen. I
I
Is there anything else?
No, just A-man.
Oh, okay.
Preach?
I'm curious to see what Watson's response is to the Kez.
We've seen stuff like TB in the past as a response.
Holy speak of the devil, Michelle up here.
You did say his name three times.
And the logger.
Yeah.
Because I think you're in a pretty good spot to pick a carry.
You see the enemy carry and you see your lane.
That's about the best thing you can ask for as a carry
His TA is banned
But I know Watson is a big fan of picking in these types of spots having all the information getting to play the best possible game match up
And so I think he's happy here
So for me, it's how can you know, what is he gonna go for and is it the right answer because we talked about the pressure?
Miro and save in lane you've got a lich and so you you have to do the requirements to me
It's what's like carry doing play it doesn't come to mind at all for him
But isn't like it. Okay. We play it but isn't like it
But if this was like nightfall playing right now
I kind of feel that could be just an option like when you see lago kez
Like here, I really want to get in front of you just throwing down the doom is quite a statement
But you know with the axe like you can only pick it if carry so it is unlikely if Watson isn't I
Personally, we're here mind if they still go for like some of his turret heroes
Maybe with late you're like you would like a melee, but I don't see much wrong with like a draw
Yeah, I think it's good against these heroes overall
Obviously, Kes can get on top of you, but you can build Pyke, you can have Shadowbeak because the other ones, like Tree doesn't want to overreach, Largo also doesn't overreach, even if he does what's he gonna do, he licks you once and then like, okay, you get shot in the face by Ag's Drow.
That's why I feel like DB will kind of set in the motions of that draft to expect the Drow, right?
But you have the Tree that can easily go for the Twin Gate that we're calling for, Hoodwink's more aggressive than the SD to take the fight.
the fight. You've got the lago as well that wants to play into the lane and go for engagement.
So I am looking at lago hood link tree need to kind of create a tri lane into the draw.
But you need to respect that lich snap fine. They bring some damage. So if you are trying to dive
draw, you're probably going to be getting, you know, chipped down yourself. But of course, as
always, it is the matter of you must stop draw, free farming her lane that you have to fight her.
Yeah, it's a scaling pick, which is what I think actually has done a lot of. Yeah. They've liked
to play it. So we talked about them playing for behind that I think is very true. They're
not looking to stop you with lanes this game. They're looking to have we're going to get
out of lanes. Okay. And then we're going to chill and we're going to team fight you eventually.
That is, I think it's cool to see them commit to sort of the stylistic difference there.
But boom is doing their classics that the team's never going to deviate. And the acts
is the same thing. They're playing a little bit slower of a game, but a game that if it
gets to the point where you know, the breaking point that it becomes a big problem for them.
And there is one slight problem for Yandex that their initiation is only the axe, the ability to find information.
There is not a hero that likes to walk into the fight naturally.
Like, axe wants to blink into the fight with some information already.
So their last pick kind of needs to kind of be that type of hero.
Their mid laner, like the embers, the storms, kind of the cheap dude who doesn't mind just running around.
He'd actually, you know, ban out the invoker.
Good kind of deterrent to some of the early pressure, but still.
Yeah, and that's a lot of weight on actually shoulders for the fights.
I feel like with the Vyber band, it does feel leaning towards setting up for an Ember,
because Storm is already banding the previous phase, so it's either cool.
Yeah, I just think it's difficult. They are likely looking for this type of hero,
but also it's Ember into Largo. There are, there's more counterpicks available,
like you know, Hasgar, Monkey King, whatever. Maybe Monkey doesn't feel good,
because there's like, there's a Lich and there's a Snapfire, and maybe the Sidelanes,
like you don't want to play through a Largo, I'm not sure.
But I can pinpoint the Yandex pick at the moment, but I do agree that it would be nice if they have someone else that the supports can also like lean on and play through.
Yeah, the QWAP ban potentially is to slaughter out of me.
I think slaughter is a little bit more robust in lane than in Ember potentially, because I agree that they want some catch.
But at the same time, I think you absolutely have to pass the laning check, because if you pick Ember and you get Huskar or you get Mlki, and you get run over, then there's no gameplay to be had.
You've already got the tree come through it.
through game. It is CJ as well. It is CJ. So I think something like you need a balance.
I think without that balance, you can either get trampled and then it's just you just don't
get to play the game. I mean, Viper caught ban back in the day. These
are like bans maybe towards like the death profits that we saw CJ play. It's not the
catch, but I am just looking at a hero that takes focus away from other people. You kind
of throw your body into it. I think Falcons tried to showcase the hero yesterday from
mid. Simo died twice in the kind of game. Very quickly become over, but I think CJ has
shown like the strength of the hero. Not a catch, but you itemize to just
walk into the middle of the fights and just be that blob. Because at the same
time, not just to come up with their own pick, when you see the enemy
team have Largo and they still need their mid, it doesn't narrow their options.
Generally speaking, when you play Largo, you want the co-op, the storm, maybe
the Ember, the voice, or you want the guy with Kroak, because currently they
don't really have any partner at all. That's a... yeah, I mean, the Iron Band of
BB actually reminding us that, you know, snap could just be the mid. We could just be looking at a new position for, for Yandex and then, you know, snap goes blink is another way to kind of start fights, but it's still, it's not clean.
It's not like the walking information. It's the, we need good vision and smoke to kind of initiate, but alas, BB kind of banning at one mid and one four.
It's a bit interesting because I would just expect him to run the X snap mid and like, X snap often in college.
You're late mid, baby.
You're late mid, baby.
That you know is coming out later.
Exactly. That's perfect.
3 seconds left.
So does mid swap.
I don't think it should be winnig.
Unless you're a Mikoto, you're not going mid with Render Ranger.
Or we are.
Or we are.
In 2022.
I think this is fine.
It's certainly not fantastic.
And I agree that
Snapp bait is kind of bad with the draw, it's two very backline heroes in certain periods of the game, and you can be a little bit scared.
You compare that to Beplum, they've got more heroes that are getting in there, and you've got the potential to counterpick Snapp, now there's not many heroes that actively own Snappfire.
But there's some room for something cool, it should be K, it does play Sniper, I've been talking about the hero every day, it's very possible here.
They might think of Zeus and I would not like it much, so I'm happy that it's not Zeus.
The one drawback is the fact that you are playing Ember into Snap. It should be better than before.
Like before also it was not just that Snap can like cookie on you and then shoot you in the face.
Like they here also deny like half the creeps against you in the lane all the time.
Because it is quite a good Ember game. You also have at least you have tree and armor that can help you overall
and you have the croak of genius to play with.
Unless we do have Ember King himself who can say this is a good Ember game. Looks good to me.
If you get out of the laning phase is a great Ember game. Not only anything really does much to you, this is like peak Ember game.
game. The question is, can you get out of lane? I think it's a super ballsy pick and a massive
respect for GBK to pick Ember into snap. Most people would never do this. So my eyes are glued
to that mid lane to see how this actually goes because I tell you, this lane can get real bad
if you're not really good. It's an interesting setup as well. If GBK needs to call supports to mid
to be able to play into that fire, then Drow is going to be uncontested and she's going to get all
her farm. The things that we look towards like trying to shut down. And then if GBK is like,
you know what, let me be sacrificial. Don't play through me. I know my lane is difficult,
But like you have to kill so if they try and kill me you have to kill it
I think there's a lot of questions for BB and like they get they have to clear past
It's enable the ember or utilize the ember being like pressured to kill elsewhere
No, I fully agree. I think also at the same time. This is one of the first times
I would say that BB are gonna be they're gonna be tested
I think the the correct way cause so far in this format. I haven't really seen it at least in the playoffs
But I think the Yankees like drow. I will be pretty happy playing drow this game like overall
I think if you get there later, you're very happy playing the hero playing the turret. So I'm happy for the young x boys
Okay, happy for the end x boys
But at the same time that boom showing that there's a lot more on offer for them here
They're in the upper bracket finals win here. They're one step closer to that grand final
But let's start this best of three off with a game at number one and syndrome in Sunspan
Dammit did it again Matt for God's sake Sunspan here with Cinder and we have game one of this upper bracket finals
should be a goodie. It should be a goodie. And I have a personal favorite in this one.
I don't know if you do before drafts, but I feel like Betboom has looked like the best team overall in the tournament.
So I think it's up to Yandex today to prove that they have what it takes to challenge this team like Kezu said because
yes, obviously it wasn't a clean run for Betboom in the first stage, but they got through in one of the top placements and
as far as the matchup against Falcons yesterday, that was not too much of a struggle.
They looked very very strong. That's true. Let's get into game and see what happens
Hi game one upper bracket finals here blast slam
the game. I mean, I guess I
am. Yandex versus bet boom.
Who shall prevail? You're
right. I think coming into
this, I would give them the
slight edge just in terms of
how they look. But Yandex.
I mean, in this playoffs,
they've looked pretty damn
good as well. Not undefeated
though. Bet boom. Did they
drop a game yet? I mean, I
guess they haven't really
played that much because they
had a two yesterday. That's
that they haven't had to play that much, could be a detriment.
Yeah, but then you look at the stats, Shin, and then you notice that they have the top
three KDAs in the tournament on their three cores, which is, you know, extraordinary.
I don't know if I've ever seen that before.
Immediately dispels the battle hunger, and Miero gets out just fine.
Let's talk about some of these heroes.
DM playing, Axe.
Of course, we've not cast a single game without Drow so far in this playoff stage.
I do believe that there were four Drow games yesterday, right?
I think it's been a lot.
Not sure about the or puck games.
No puck this time, though.
True.
That'll be different.
It's funny.
It's the Chira junior on snapfire, which I'm sure we'll get to soon.
Yeah, it's it's funny how we were celebrating early on the tournament where we were casting.
There's so much hero variety, and then yesterday we had so much of the same stuff, but you
know.
Yeah, the D-Patch came out and apparently it got worse, which is very interesting indeed.
There's some flavor to this, though.
We didn't really get to see much Largo yesterday.
Kaz, I believe, was played in one or two games.
Windranger is a bit of an, I'm not going to say unusual pick, but it's not one we see
every game either.
We are converging toward a pretty stable late tournament meta, though, so I hope we get
to see some spice toward the end.
We're not going to see much spice from Miero on the Froggy, because it's the same build
every single game.
But when you do get online, then it's really, really hard to get this.
Having said that, though, we have been seeing Agon and Cessar come out as a second item,
a decent amount, before the BKB.
Actually, that is the normal.
Normalize kaiosanj into axe into bqv. That's like this stock. Yeah
So the bkb has been kind of optional from the games that we've seen at least here
They've been switching up from time to time with lotus Lincoln something to that effect now in terms of the lick this game
What is it good against takes off win run which is big yeah, and what else frost shield off gusts
I guess from a teammate frost shield is really strong to spell. Yep true
We've seen that's a good amount. It's decent. I mean, I think a big part of this
The strength of the pick here is that it lanes well into lich
Whenever lich blasts you you can just self dispel for a heal
And of course you can get away
I you can also dispel frost arrows, right? So it's just I know that sounds trivial, but
I could definitely matter especially with eggs, right? That takes off all the stacks. I assume
I don't see why none have to owe me power shot down socks though with the first blood in the game for yandex
Don't worry about your stats though that boom. It was a support dying not your course
They got to keep their KDAs at the top three if they if they were to end the turn of that
I think that might have never ever happened
Yeah, and it wouldn't have been in an elite level turn
It's so hard for the top three to be from the same team and KDAs
So so let's talk about your favorite hero in the game. Can you guess who it is?
I'm guessing you want to talk about Kez. That's correct. It's not my favorite hero in the game.
That chicken man himself.
Kez probably makes the top 127 in the favorite heroes.
I can't say where I've placed him.
I don't know. I know that you dislike Brood more.
Yeah, well, top 126.
Yeah, that's 126. It's close.
That's GPK getting really low scatter blasts, destroying him from Chira Jr.
Trying to get the bottle charges up with the fairy fire as well.
living armor comes out and with that cheer junior will have to back away he's
going to get a grenade and go and he's slow to a crawl can gpk finish the job
very fine I'm peeling up cheer junior there's the cookie a lot of back and
forth in this mid lane already very entertaining to watch
bearing chain hey cheerer one more click and keep him alive and under the tower
gpk falls that was so close to back and forth wow the cheer junior comes out on
top of the index off to a very good start above bottom mid. Yeah, that was everything on the absolute edge there.
But nicely navigated from Cheryl.
I wonder if we can get a replay of that kill.
I feel like she became missed a slight, but I can't believe that would be possible in that situation.
I will see if that is available to us.
Anyway, back to your favorite hero, the chicken man.
this hero when it gets to mid to late game feels sometimes unstoppable do you
think Yandex have to hear like how does Drowne match up against how does the axe
feel against? Axe is one of the best heroes against Kez late game. Kez does so
insanely overwhelming physical damage that a blink blade mail is one of the
best solutions. We've seen I believe we cast the game of Amar playing Legion
commander against Kez. Oh yeah that's right. As of an unusual answer to be sure in this patch but
you know that's the budget axe. That's true. Well don't tell Legion that because I think she
what's the lore with Legion and axe? Is there lore? Her lore is that she hates everything that's
has a mustache. Well he doesn't have a mustache. Oh he has a full beard that's probably even worse.
She hates every, she hates every male hero right and she trusts nobody.
What do you call that a full beard? He's missing the mustache part of the beard. What else would you call it?
Well, it's like mutton chops kind of.
That's only under the tower.
A lot of battle hunger. Oh, he's going to get called up and taken out by the counterhealers of DM.
The Andex are looking hot right now in this first five minutes. This is really, really good.
Betboom generally don't lose their lanes. They've lost all three at this point.
Game's looking sharp. Nice connection up top though. Watson will be caught by a bushland plus the frog stomp. Still is going to survive.
I'm trying to turn it around on him to save a little bit but can't overextend all that much with Largo in the neighborhood, so I have to settle.
Plus some nice pressure onto the Drow if nothing else.
I mean with the frog and hoodwink I kind of don't even call them their names
Kes and Larga. They're chicken man and frog. But how's this combo for Betboom in
theory? Like obviously you talked about the dispelling of Frost Shield and what
not but like in terms of killing potential. Squirrel and the frog. It's a
strong lane. This lane is definitely strong on paper but so is Lichdrow which
is a nice connection there once again. Don't think they can dive it. TP's coming
from Soxa as a matter of fact, a power shot.
Let's me arrow, getting blood-grenaded now, and slow to a crawl, Watson takes him out.
Great response.
A rotation from Soxa, and try to contest this Lotus, not going to happen though.
We're getting close to the 7-minute Wisdom Shrine as well.
I'm not sure if they're going to actually go for that or not.
Okay, Largo Hoodwink losing lane significantly is unusual.
It's a very, very good lane.
Largo is a pretty strong laner in a lot of matchups.
the chaining with hook link with the stun you throw down the frog stomp and you pull them into it so they're in the center of it
It's really strong, but yeah, let's draw. I'll have something to say about that
cheer up
You get gone on by both Katta only and GP K will cookie to the high ground TP support on the way
Power shot into the sinister gaze for GP K
It's gonna get started as well as the Mortimer's he's dead for rights. My goodness great turnaround from Yanix
They have gotten the better of every exchange so far as Katta only gonna get power shot and brought down by Soxa
Who has been all over the map feel like he's been involved in almost every kill?
That's because he has it's been five out of six so you have a good feeling
Great work keep it up. Thanks. Yeah, really weird transition there for you appreciate that appreciate that too
Yeah, next up, 3K already, 6-0 advantage thus far.
This radiant lineup does not play very well from behind, I have to say.
Like, you're going to run into some potential damage issues.
You're 5 is a trient, Kaz needs to farm.
Who does Ember really play with when the lanes fall apart?
He's got Hoodwink as a good partner, but Largo, as we know, also really needs time to build up.
up. You want to farm all the way to that kaiosan plus eggs before you truly look to be strong in fights.
Can't help but feel like Yandex can just keep riding this momentum, dominating the map. Of course.
Eight minute power rune, GPK desperately wants it. We'll get the damage room in the end as
finality. Yeah, we'll be the first kill coming to the bet boom side.
Another thing is, you have nothing stopping Axe, so DM is going to get super, super farmed here.
This will be a very quick blink blade mail, and that's what he established.
He's a great counter to the Kez for the entirety of the game, but actually also one of the better heroes against Ember.
Getting that reliable blink reach catch that you can chain through with, let's say, something like a sinister gaze, or a cookie, or a gust even.
Getting that opportunity early is really good, because when I looked at these drafts, I was worried for Yandex that if the lanes don't go well, they're in the exact same situation as we're talking about for Bedroom right now, where they can't really make any moves except with X.
But that is not going to be a concern at this point.
GPK getting a nice couple stacks here. It's very low on HP, but can always go back to base.
He's going to have a harder time taking that out. In fact, they don't really have a great
team for killing off stacks.
Tez is okay when he has more levels in Echo Slash, but it'll be a bit.
Not the best.
Axe in the meantime, happy to take as many stacks as possible.
I see he accelerates his farm towards that eventual blade melt.
And this is a 930 blademail.
Yeah, with phase boots.
Pretty pretty good.
Stupid rich.
1000 ahead of the kez.
81 CS minute 9.
And this is a snowball here as well.
Oh yeah.
Once you get that blink dagger, start stacking up them calling blades.
They have so much nice long range follow through on blink calls, right?
They've got Chain Frost and Frost Blast, they've got Power Shot from far away, all of Snapfire's abilities have range.
Ten minute Power Room coming down, GPK.
As the damage room going, you get the Bush Whack, onto Socks, then a bit of trouble will wind onto the North.
Cookie to try to save him, Axe Fall not gonna be there, GPK.
Should be able to finish this eventually. No, doesn't have to slide quite up yet.
Gonna get Sinister Gaze and blast it a bit.
It'll break things up. Who got the room? It was top, I assume.
I believe so. And two. Malady took the illusion.
Okay.
Has provided a bit of space for Mier to try to catch up in this top lane.
Yeah, but this lane plays itself. You're level 7, draw against level 5 part of it. Even Larger gets 6. Larger can never aggressive.
If you try to run toward her and use your ability, she can just gust you away, and that's the end of the play.
the place. The fact that his farm is comparable to Soxa on the support
windrunner is not good, especially with GPK on the Hember. Not a great start for
two of these cores on the Deftum side. Of course, Kev's starting to catch up now
as you would expect to eventually happen.
Alright, they're gonna try to go for some stacks here. It's not gonna have the damage.
I wonder, I wonder what that booms plan is right now, like how do you solve this problem?
If you do nothing you're getting out farmed, like all three enemy cores are completely
free and your moves are effectively all centered around the ember but he doesn't quite have
the levels yet or the damage because GPK hasn't earned no phase boots super far away from
you know the upgrade of either a mage layer or a vessel to really have that extra output
to get kills, your support, one of them is Trant.
I think Ember and Hoodwink are a mandatory part of every kill.
It's just hard to see it work out otherwise.
And by extension, if that's true, then it's extremely easy for Yandex to prepare for it.
Because they know Largo is just going to be camping up tough and farming, he has no choice.
Yeah, Kaz is not ready to fight at all.
So you can effectively, you can just keep track of Ember, and if you know where Ember is, you're safe.
And you can just farm.
A little bit oversimplified, but it's pretty damn close, actually.
Yeah, Yandex seem to be just growing the fleet ever so slowly now.
They have the Arcane Room for cheer up and DM.
Still working on that blink, about 700 out.
Smoke wrap around.
They're gonna find Katomi here if they have detection.
They do not have detection.
All right. Well, then they're not gonna find Kato me the guy with detection was the guy not connected on the move
Which was lit and we'll get the tower though
Although I
Can't defend they have to take three members to take out these ancient stacks
And it will go the indexes way again
So what kind of building you want to see from cheer up?
I
Guess Kai already and it's going for an early short
I mean we've seen we've seen two archetype bells, right?
We've seen the eye focus on Mortimer kisses and spells and we've seen the
split-shot little shredder
Daedalus
Whacking the top lane. That's how me
into nothing
They got him in a second prepare your dogs. Boom
First one of the game. I think it should just I think you should just go magic snap
I mean, he's already bought the Kyra, so it's already telegraphed that he wants to do that anyway.
But I think if you're playing with Drow, as you're carried, you have so overwhelmingly single target physical damage.
And with Axe, you just want to down the stretch be able to call someone and just absolutely blast them.
You have physical damage, magical damage, pure damage. That's a good mix.
Yeah, it's hard to itemize against.
Although, I mean, in the position that they're in, I think Chira could also go to the Shrider build and it would work out just fine.
like you're then you're playing magic for the next 15-20 minutes and then eventually you get there
but i overall like this a bit better looks good to me
and so from bet booms point of view then hit creep is that even gonna be good enough though
30 cats obviously will get stronger and stronger with each item and farm faster and faster they're
They're keeping the lead at 5k. That's the good news. They're actually not bleeding out as much as I thought they would.
I was expecting the side of Yandex to be able to get a higher GPM than this, comparatively.
They are gaining, but it's by a very slow and steady increase.
Or to use cookies, and a lot of trouble to my games.
Pushback set up and the snipe. GPK gets credit for that one. A very important kill for Batboom.
Good wink, Ember. They have to do it, and they do it.
And that is the third highest net worth core on the dire side, but again, the gold was
just a 6k, now it's at 4, so successful move, step number one.
And you have to be very selective with the place that you make.
The good news is now you've got vessel charges on GPK, so perhaps a bit more damage.
Oh, this will be great.
Watson not in this at all.
He's gonna get the gust off, Sox is nearby, but Watson's already at half HP.
The Spiritless will fly in as well, but the Shackle is gonna connect, and there's the call from Axe on to two of the Chain Frost to come out as well.
Miero taking tons of damage. They do get the Drow, but it's gonna cost them dearly. Cost them three members, but...
You get a reciprocal kill on to the Axe. Tera Junior, not the greatest Mortimer's. No real setup for that.
Power Shot does slip GPK, Power Shot not gonna hit it, they're gonna re-initiate
Heritage doing tons of damage as Shira Junior now on the retreat Malady
likely to be picked off by these two cores of Betoom. So in the end very
sloppy fight in a way from both sides. That's an awesome result for Betoom though.
They get a what's that a 4 for 3 trade including Drow and Axe the two top
net worth enemy heroes, and Kez gets involved before he has Deso.
So he finds meaningful impact before his hero truly starts picking up Steaman.
If this was just Watson not at all expecting that they stuck around, right?
His teammate just died up here in the snapfire, and he thought they left the premises, but
this is a good setup for the chain frost call.
It looks really good, but the two big guys on the side of that boom are uninvolved in
that clusterfuck of a spell cast, so they can come in from the sides.
Well with no resources left. I'm actually a bit surprised Yandex tried to pursue that even 3d2. They have nothing left
Yeah, most of their lead has now evaporated as a result of these last couple engagements. Yeah, that's really really big
GPK with three charges on the spear vessel is going for the mage slayer next
Now this gives Trian a an essence distiller
Anything else we got coming out
Not quite yet. Oh, the best one comes now. They find Soxa step by step
This is unexpected, I would say, from the game position we were in.
I thought maybe Beto and we're going to be able to find a kill or two here or there if
they made some good moves, but genuinely winning an engagement there was not the expected result
for Yandex.
And now the question is how they're going to adjust.
We obviously, we see the numbers, we know the game stayed better than they do, so we
have access to all the stats, but how do you feel in the game right now, Nostrao, and actually
Alright guys, you know what? Shit happens. We got caught. It wasn't great, but we're still good. We're still fine
Just farm and hit your next timing
Or do you start to feel a little bit of pressure somehow?
See how they choose
Just recently purchased the blank right before that fight. They haven't really gotten to set something up on their own terms
Children on the snap right here be tough to get through
Overgrowth comes out just before the call a lot of damage onto this act
The end is just gonna get kicked out basically completely isolated.
Kira Jr. extremely low on HP as well.
Gonna try to walk away, but looks like he will barely get out.
They lose two on the Yandex side now,
and this game is back to even in terms of net worth effectively.
Yeah, this is wide open. They're gonna take the mid tower.
Yeah, this is the thing about Axe. You have a totally free start.
You're really strong. It needs to convert.
If you have a couple of deaths,
They can be crippling to this hero in particular, it just slows him down so much and
Now we might just see the Needle swing to the left for the first time the entire game now
That boom could be getting a gold advantage very soon if they find any picks and they're still hunting
Look at this, hero junior might walk right into them. Katoumi
I get the info. If he shows for even a brief moment on the wave, they obviously have to put the Stills and track him if they want, but
Oh, this should be a free kill.
Oh, you say that.
Katom is tracking him in the river.
Oh, now they end up getting neither, because they hesitated a bit.
And DM instead, going to come in with a call onto the Ember spirit.
That's a lot of damage to withstand.
Bushwhack comes in to try to cancel this, though.
Cookie not going to hit a good dodge from GPK.
He kills off him.
Oh, he's going to hit him.
Oh, he's going to hit him.
Oh, he's going to hit him.
Oh, he's going to hit him.
a good dodge from GPK. He kills off Malady in the end and Mortimer's right on safe's face.
Gonna pop the essence ring to try to stay alive, not happening.
So one for all that, yeah, supports just trade lives.
They forced two TPs though out of the side of Yandex, so the map is now, it's very...
Not done yet.
Chira, Junior. We have a video, he already uses the cookie and now GPK and the arrow can connect.
This is disastrous for Yannick's they just keep feeding away kills this area is cursed. It's like
It's just like a game of there's no way they're sticking around and that bed and bedroom were like they think there's no way
We're sticking around
They keep getting this top area in the river
This is like three or four core kills up there now where bedroom have already shown presence remember that game where tomato was yeah
Yeah, Jiro. It's giving me flashbacks to that
just went top over and over and over this is gonna be yeah that's the first
part of the game from now gonna get the tournament shirt they want to get the
shard on the trance all right the hunt of boomerang is obviously also amazing
but with the trance one they don't have a bad shard considering how they've
controlled the map in terms of the top half having that extra bit from trees
would have been nice but the boomerang excellent for ember to play with so much spell amp is
very very nice yeah with this sudden change of events you can see soxa who was pretty damn high
on the net worth for supports now overtaken by save who'll be getting a blink dagger relatively
shortly
Should have pretty big impact is keratich obviously has the death zone now and bkb not too far away
This case is gonna be a problem they have axe
When Kez gets this farmed I think you
You can't always do this, but if you could somehow reserve call for Kez
That's really good
but the problem is their lineup has no secondary setup.
If Axe was playing with, say, a Spirit hero mid that could go first
and break open the fight so that Kez has to respond to help his team,
and then you get a blink call, you can play like that, but...
you're not setting up anything.
This was what I was talking about earlier, in case they lost their lanes,
which they absolutely did not.
But all the burden of initiation falls on one guy,
and if Kez is clever and just patient,
I already saw they struggled to kill the Ember with a blink call.
The damage wasn't quite there.
Largo is gonna be equally difficult
So Kev can kind of just wait in the wings for
And ex to initiate on somebody else and then he can make his grand entrance with yeah
It feels like pressures on you next to find these moves they get the hood wings
It's the top net worth of the supports, but obviously hoping for something bigger very small prize, but
At least it's something like you said
But quietly while this is happening Largo gets to play
Look at this build for Largo. Straight BKB, no axe, yep.
It goes shard after S&K and BKB before axe.
He was the one that was doing this, actually.
Wasn't it Whisper?
No, like, not this tournament.
Ah, I see.
The previous one.
Oh, here it comes.
Oh, look, it's top half of the map.
Let's, uh...
Yeah, it tries the TP, but the procs on immediately cancels it.
So, easy pick up for Betsy.
They're finding the more valuable kills.
Chain procs with the shard from Lynch, not going to be enough to really make it dense
into Cure Stitch.
This top section of the map is just roped off now.
It genuinely feels like the entire game for Yandex has been lost up there.
Everything bad that happened was up there.
Yeah.
Alright, a Rosh attempt for Bethan.
is this Yandex wanted to, I mean without axe, good luck. Maybe they can get a lucky
power shot kill. More Mortimer's as well. They find a tree though. Going for the Mortimer's
early, dodges the Overgrowth, nicely done, so they get that kill, but what is the cost
going to be exactly? Soxa ticking out Chira Jr. as well. Way too easy for Best Boom, and
this is without their axe on Yandex. Couple extras, and back to the pit. Indeed. Now they
just instead of getting Roche they get an additional core kill and a position 4 support
and we'll still get a shield here for chicken man.
First agent of the game, two chicken man.
What do you think Largo sings to as a bar to the chicken to motivate him?
Do frogs like chickens? I don't think so.
Chickens like to peck their eyes out.
I'm sure that's related somehow.
This was... they're not going to happen.
I mean, they have insane reach.
You've got to be super careful with Snapfire.
This is a big part of the reason why Ember is such a good pick this game,
is that whenever Snapfire shows and start casting spells,
you just jump into...
Yeah, straight on top of her with Krog of Genius on you,
and you have so much damage,
and you have the artillery of Hoodlink to rely on,
you can even see save,
pretty unusual build for him,
rushing the dagger on hoodwink.
So, very much so, just looking for setups.
All right, we'll get through the gate on Malady,
but will he find a way out of this?
No.
His answer is negative.
BK.
BK owning it up now.
Haven't gotten to see too much of Watson yet.
He's still pretty high up there in that work.
Going for a Shadowblade, it seems.
Shadowblade.
Yeah, it might be a targeted purchase against Kez, ability to maneuver around, try to get
away, get a surprise angle.
Silver Edge is not particularly great against anyone here.
At least the break part doesn't matter.
Sarksa, he's found.
He is.
Sharp shooter, set up by the Searing Line.
Yep, I.
That's a lot of damage.
Katva only is pretty close to blink.
Yep.
That is gonna be nice.
No BKB yet for GPK.
Oh wait, is it on the land maybe?
Perhaps.
Oh.
Yep, it is.
And if you remember yesterday when Bedboom were playing, oh hang on, let's see if DM can place right out of this one.
He's gonna spot everyone.
Gets a nice call onto two of the BKB to follow the gust as well.
Where's the follow-up though, Watson?
He's the one completely isolated.
Now, Chicken Man has his sights set on drought.
Gets the kill.
Mortimer's gonna be brushed off entirely.
entirely as DM now. Left to his own devices, still sticking around it seems, will be killed
off, double killed from Miero and Betboom rolling away now.
Yeah, they're making it look so easy. This is very clean. And yeah, as you said, that
was a pretty good Blink call, but if you find two or three heroes like that, but there's
no backup nearby, it doesn't really amount to much. You're gonna see the replay here.
So it gets this.
Funnily enough, that could have been like a four man call.
He got three in that vision, but yeah.
Snapfire has to TP in, Lich has to TP in, they arrive, the call's over.
So, now you have a dead draw.
And the Spine's already lost at this point.
It's just a matter of bleeding as little as you can, and yeah.
They lose...
They lose the axe to go, so...
Suddenly, 7,000 in the favor of that boom.
And the thing that's really impressive about this is...
Considering how this game started, if this is a game that they are going to win,
how are Yandex going to do any better in game 2 for the first 10 minutes?
Like, this is... I don't remember the last time I saw Betboom lose their lanes this hard,
and they're still...
And still didn't matter.
Yeah, they're still running with it.
I think it's interesting to see the way they're conceptualizing a trend in their drafts, by the way.
It's... We saw yesterday they played two games with PuckTrandt,
where the idea is you coil the enemy team, they have to use BKBs, and then you overgrowth.
In this game you have a similar logic with slight chains that is just so powerful together with Kez
That you kind of have to use defensives to get away
And then the Trian can come in and lock you down a second every time she is just gonna
Get Kez. Okay
Searing chains only on to the Lich
Ask to use chain frost will be a free kill for Bethune
The very least Watson does get away, but like you said the mid laner dead on the other side
The map is insanely small now. Look at the vision that Batboom have placed.
Yes, Yandex also have a couple of wards in the top half, but they're out to the side, whereas the ones from Batboom are very much covering all movement through any lane, really.
They're going to see them, and they have on top of that a Triant Protector that you're always unsure where he's scouting.
Recovering this one is going to be stupidly difficult. Look at Kaz's methods at this point.
Yep, this is when he just runs away with the game, typically.
Has the axe now, and what's he working on next? Or is something coming to him as we speak?
Uh, Blake?
You can't.
Is this he needs more mobility?
I really like this purchase this game. He knows what the assignment is.
It is killed row. Yep killed row dodge axe. We do those two things you're winning the game
What if there's any world that he considers a nullifier just to make sure that he can stick on to her entirely against the
Lich armor, but she has a pike and a shadow blade
So maybe that's a bit naive to think you're gonna get away with that. It's just too defensive you think
For now the drought. Yeah
It's tough. I mean you've seen the fights, right? Yeah, I
of the
and then the other one.
With the shark shooter right in
socks a safe hearing chains onto
two and the over girls onto
three. This is disastrous for
Yandex. They're going to lose
three at least. And now into the
base. They go GP K just
leading the way with an
ultra give it to him. GP K
deserves it. Bush Whack. They're
leaving him as GGs are called
If you ask me at 10 minutes what the odds are that this game ends before 30 in Betboom's favor,
I would have said the fact that you're even entertaining the idea that that's possible is ridiculous.
Very impressive.
What an insane showcase of just great team movements and incredible individual skill in that mid game.
That was wild.
Are they were able to convert this so quickly?
And now if you're Yandex, you've got to be feeling a little bit flustered.
Everything went according to plan for the first time,
and maybe it went even better than they were expecting.
And they still lost in 30 minutes.
They still, I mean, usually the cat game is like,
okay, this is a 40 minute game that he takes over.
Yeah.
Didn't even, I mean, he did some good damage, obviously,
but GPK kind of leading the way in a lot of these fights.
12 and two, his reach was insane on Ember Spirit.
And that blink dagger kind of secured things for Kata only
getting the overgrowth onto several heroes.
That hero is really hard to deal with in the late game.
I keep saying late game, it was not late game.
No.
I would like to see Yandex.
It's band trained in the next game, I think.
Katomi looks so incredibly comfortable in the day
as the team gets so much value out of it.
Hannel, what happened here?
My goodness.
That's what I'm wondering as well, the fact
that it went from 0 to 100 real quick on the side of Betboom.
They were playing the patient game.
That's all right, you know, you lose a little bit of lane,
you get a little bit of a solo kill,
diff mid, and then all of a sudden, you just
come on out with a rampage.
They were doing so well at the start.
Like Yannick said, a good lead, like you said,
doing well on your lanes.
And then suddenly it seemed like there were one or two small things in the whole kind of game.
It just flip flopped.
I mean, GPK started this game.
Like, it's just a part of people like one death away from giving up.
The key is that I think it might be like around here-ish, like later he like dies and he just stops moving.
It's one of, it's like, it's like, it's like, I know I know I'm cooked.
I'm just going to, you know, accept my fate and call it.
No, but of course, I think BB, they just knew what they, the heroes had to do.
Of course, you know, you can see that just net worth, Kez climbing up, Lago, they hit creeps.
Like even though Yandex got kills from lane, the kills from lane didn't progress into like constant map pressure.
It was like, we kill and then we go sit back for a little bit and then of course maybe you were able to just keep using their supports to get vision.
And yeah, it just, Yandex, they just made so many mistakes. Of course, the simple answer is they just got picked off too many times.
Like between like minute 15 and 18, maybe even like minute 12 and 18, it was just like, it was absolutely massacre of Yandex where they just kept running into feed basically.
No, I think what you're saying is absolutely true, because there is this point, like...
...Bekum played very well because they seized, I would say, very good opportunities, but at the same time, Yandex...
...you need to understand that they're... you're gonna reach this point where Kass has Mage Lair, he has, like, higher HP...
...you have the Ember who has, like, Mage Lair, Flame Guard, it's not that easy to kill them...
...and you can't, like, if you go for the play, it needs to be clean.
But instead, eventually, Bekum, they got over this hurdle. I mean, GPK, he just went ramp and he didn't have a good lane, but then...
Later, he has safe who's playing with him as the sharpshooter, you have the tree armor, you have the croak of genius from Largo, who also eventually, you don't really see him that much, but he did help his Ember, like, immensely in Karatich 2 on the Kez.
There was a reason why, at the start of the game, the hero's open, the hero's open, who's going to take it, bro, had a flawless game on Kez.
I mean, it is one of the problems that Yandex has, right? Like, we were looking at, hmm, this axe has a lot of pressure on his shoulders.
He has to win his lane, he has to initiate. Like, if he's not moving forward, no one on the Yandex's team has to step up and be that front lane.
They looked pretty good.
Again, they had these moments of laning phase, but I feel like just the lack of CJ being
on a hero, like the Slardars, the Void Spirits, even, you know, they invoked with the Hammer
we kind of run around and do things like there wasn't a hero that was moving forward.
And then Yandex, just because they lost that component, maybe they have that in spades.
Like all of their heroes will happily go and investigate the map, find some information,
find that pick off potential, you know, the comeback from the laning phase disaster.
So maybe having the four range and a melee, it was one of the shortcomings for Yandex.
I'm still just so impressed with GBK to kind of feel that you're in this mid-game or so you're in this mid lane and
I don't really know what to do from that and then he ends up being
23 out of 26 of that kills like just knowing the positioning
I feel of what what some wanted to do on the drought off the winning the lane is
Is where I feel that been really showed the difference of the knowledge of a team being able to do so much more
Hey, this guy's just honestly very good like you also understand right he he gets the last pick is here
And it's important that just because you die once or twice because even here he makes quite a big mistake
You know he goes for like the solo kill he misses the slight here then that I keep playing back and forth now
He gets level 4 he like tries to get the kill because he gets to change
But then he overplays and he gives up the skill which is quite big like obviously if he gets a skill it changes the entire game
But he said some oh, yeah, they finished five minutes earlier. Oh, yeah
Like the thing is too like this guy is just 12 2 and 11 in this game 88% kill participation
It's no joke, but they understood okay
We can last pick this hero if you somehow make it out of lane nicely
Which he did and then in the mid game you get to get those moves together. It can look like this
I mean you look at GP 10. It's like okay. You gotta think about his puck
You have to guys ember like even if the lane go shake that you know, he's gonna have a game
He's always been I mean at least in recent time quite a stable performing mid laner
Of course earlier in his career. It was pretty volatile. You had no idea what he was gonna do
But nowadays it's like you can't just shut him down with like a mid lane outplay
Like you need to have the entire game be a way to shut him down and yeah Yandex
I think this was quite the first time that we've just seen them have like no
I guess purpose they struggled they struggled again
They had the top fight that you're probably talking about in a minute
Well, they kind of just threw bodies into it
But that wasn't a Yandex that we saw earlier in the in the playoffs
So like and they are struggling and at the same time I think bedroom
They had a lot of very nice moves like you don't just claw your way back without you know
It's like like random place because they understood with like good map position
They had a really good smoke where they went on the dire side of the map.
They get like a very deep ward here, like cause first of all here, you know, save gets a place of ward, they kill CJ on the sand.
They're down 5k gold at this point, and all these kills, and they kept going, you know, after this, they're not going back on the map.
They keep going, they now find Watson.
CJ is still dead, like this is just 30 seconds later, and I think, yeah, next, when they think about the next game,
these are the type of rules you need to respect your opponent, especially Bed Boom, like they understand it.
Okay, we're smoking aggressively, we get the first kill, we go for one, like especially at this point,
all of Bedroom Serals, this is what they want to do.
They want to take these flights,
they want to have these flights.
It just feels greedy from the index, right?
Especially with, but they smoke tend to kill the snapfire
for your team to be dying in the same area.
It just feels like it's illegal, right?
Like that is just a major disrespect towards BD.
It's like, ah, they won't gank us here.
Like carries they used to utilizing that top river spot.
But then it's like, that shouldn't be happening.
Like even, you know, a couple of minutes later
at the 18 minute rune, like you don't go for an 18 minute rune
any any active rune kind of by yourself right and it's like for bb they bring the numbers they bring
four heroes here you kind of see dm and stat fire kind of lingering oh will it spawn will it not it's
two heroes and you have people scrambling in bb already set up here like the the easiest way to
break any game of dota is play on an even minute towards the mid lane and if yandex are doing it
with only two people you're basically inviting bb to get even more momentum and they just relentlessly
in to then an 18 minute rune, Blunder, like that is the perfect recipe for BBTGOR
Thank you so much for game 1 win, it is not going to game 2
Because especially at that moment in the game, it's like the death squad for Bebum, they want to go together
Like this is what their entire draft is for, they didn't pick Ember to win the lane
Like we evidently showed everyone, they want to get to the mid game, get your maestro, your flameguard high level
You get the lago going on, like you should understand as Yannick said, this is what they're playing for
So not only are they doing it, you're also handing it to them
So this is a big thing that for the next game, they got to swap up because I like the Annexed
draft.
I just don't think they executed very well.
There was also no aggonyms on the Drowranger in this type of draft.
I think there's just a bit of disconnect and not maybe reading the game properly like you
have to if you want to beat Beppu.
Yeah, just this misunderstanding of knowing how strong you are coming out of lanes, thinking,
you know, knowing in fact that yes, you've won all three lanes, therefore we are stronger.
We're able to split up.
We're able to be on the map a bit more and then going, oh, if they want to smoke and
I'll carry then we can just still bring numbers and we're going to still be the stronger team
Yeah, I think it's just that follows just the volatile hero where it's like you can like
Ensure that the case of clip right when he died one time CJ lost all confidence in the map
I felt like but like if he was any other hero at the end was a slot as whatever he dies
He just goes yep. No worries. Let's go again
But with that fire like you make a mistake you're reminded that your mistake is now you hiding into the jungle
Joe has to hide in the jungle who's playing into the map, right?
So it is just the simplicity of BB's lineup and that even though Yandex's draft is kind of cool
You make mistakes. You don't have the understanding of every single timing. You just get completely picked apart
No, I think that's a good point because there's two points for me too
Whereas CJ when he dies I agree that it did feel like his game kind of shifted a bit whereas when GPK dies
He still plays the same way. He understands. He's very clean on like, okay
This is what we need to do and secondary when Beppum had the opportunity to strike and they could buy items that helped
Them play what they should do. They did that
They bought like multiple blink daggers on their lineup because they understand you're against Sapphire
You're against draw rangers
So if you want to get on them, well obviously what do you want to do?
You want to close the gap, you want to play aggressive on the map.
Whereas when Yandex could have done something similar,
I think they just fully chilled, they did not wait for their timings.
Like look at the inventories, you have Kes with Linkdagger,
you have Ember Spirit, we all know what he does.
He's going to be on top of you in no time.
Miro on the Largo, he just has to give his prog, and then both supports.
Also, it's Linkdagger's.
There's no room to breathe if you're Yandex in this game,
and I think they could have done something similar had they executed properly.
But this is what happens when one team is on the money
and the other team, they're just, you know, lacking a little bit behind.
I like, you can, the logger just has to get the croak, yep.
Oh, yeah, chilling playing his guitar, doing his job.
I do a logger gameplay, bro.
I mean, Katomi's even a chat going for Cloak of Flames on a tree,
like, you're a support and you're like, you're revealing,
you're like, oh, I'm getting burned!
Like, yeah, that's how chat, that's how little cares they had in this game.
You mean you don't normally do that when you play tree?
No, I'm very normal, very normal.
I'm just like, behind the tree, like, can I initiate?
This guy's like, I'm here, you know,
he's like, there's so much confidence on the BB roster.
Different ways to play 3, different ways to play this game.
Betburn would come out on top for game number 1.
But let's see if Yandex can fight in game number 2 after this break.
Pangle at a ribbing thing.
Pangle.
I didn't think I had to use my dough to burn.
Didn't know you had any other brain.
You want to go lower?
No, no, no, no, no.
Like, five.
Whoa!
Are you ready, team?
Yep.
Oh, that's...
Absolutely.
We have 111 minutes.
I mean, definitely going to happen.
We go 111 minutes already.
I think it's like 92% likely.
That's a bit high.
We go falcons in the tournament.
We go to roar in the tournament.
I will go with like 84.
Oh.
I was not so high.
I think 85.
I think 85, then.
I think 85.
I think 85.
I think 85.
I think 85.
I think 85.
I think 85, then.
There we go.
Kind of meeting the goal of the two of us.
Look at it, look at it.
Not the two of us, not the two of us, not the two of us.
That is some mega-stop.
But that's unlikely at playoffs.
If you said like...
In a group stage?
Group stage, insert, and then bleep the team, you know,
OG, then maybe...
Hey, man, it's been long enough.
I think it's pretty unlikely.
I think it's unlikely because the teams are too good.
I feel like 10 to 7.
7.
Yeah.
Sure.
I think if it's specifically less than 10, it's pretty rare.
It's not 10%.
So 1-9 HP.
Yeah.
And stay alive.
Yeah.
That will happen.
There's going to be one schmuck in a fight that you don't even realise did it.
That's true.
It's like a poor, like, rat's away, like, woodwind scurries.
I'm down to like 50-50.
I don't think it's more than 30%.
So we can go in and die all of them.
Yeah, obviously.
I'm either 100 or zero.
50, that's great.
It's a rule on the same page real quick.
Getting mega creep is simply...
It's inevitable.
It is inevitable.
Unless they call GG before you do it.
There's a minimum of 19 games.
An absolute minimum.
If every series was a 2-0, and the grand finals was a 3-0,
I feel very sure that one of them will have mega creep.
Yeah, and because of that reason, like 99%.
If this is the first play, as it doesn't happen though, then...
I've got a raise.
That's why you're going to factor in that 1%.
Hoodwink already is running at the top with the lowest win rate
Tried and tested and if teams like Falcon's been in the pool where Craig has this like weird obsession with the hero
So this is the thing is like Hoodwink and Rubik is sports and we know normally at tournament supports are the most stable
These three options low chance. I think it's like other than because Hoodwink's in a carrier. At 22%
Yeah, that one of these three is the most picked. There we go
Yeah, yeah, very intro-like.
We had a game with BV, where GPK and KiraTitch...
Yeah, yeah.
KiraTitch is still playing.
I did this the other day.
No, I didn't.
Anyway, let's start again.
That BV game with KiraTitch and GPK,
they both went beyond Godlike in one game.
100%.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah, sure, fair.
Not yet.
Not yet.
99, come on.
You're so petty.
Anyway, we're done.
Ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
My name is Saxa.
I'm Pnambics and you're watching wrestling.
Yo, he belongs in doing this.
My name is Saxa and...
Hey!
Bro, is it cold?
Full ma.
He's got Rizz.
He's Rizzing right there.
How would you rate that one?
That's uh, I mean, how are we rating it? Just like how much I like whatever you want. Yeah, that's your rating system
That's a 9.4 out of 10. I was good vibes. I'm happy right now. He's this this is just the stuff
I'm hoping that's what you know when we went out to his team. He's like it's game one guys
It's all good. You're watching game number two
Yeah
I think game two is gonna be much better than that last game because they can draft better and I'm upset
Yeah, that's like said come into this series like there's not gonna be about draft
It's gonna be about play a little stuff
But yeah next like all the things I wish they wouldn't do suddenly they did do you know and I'm like, okay
Well, that's on the woman so surely Saksa has had that conversation and he's gonna be like let's get better for game
To will be the one thing that you would want him to change because other than giving up
I mean was it I think maybe Cinder and who said, you know the tree and obviously cut it
It's always sounds fun. It was he said, you know, maybe take out the tree which I understand
But they had a very good lead. The problem I see is maybe...
Kez is very good. They can consider that one to maybe take it out, pick it themselves.
And the snapfire maybe, but overall I still think they had the tools and the heroes to make it happen if their gameplay comes together.
But how would you want them to make it simpler?
I mean, why did Snap need to go mid?
I was happy with Snapaxe. On paper, in the Kez, you just have all this damage and nuisance and you have...
Where's the kite back away with Kez jumps into you with Cookie?
Like, why did you need to pick up a Windranger, put the Snap mid?
I understand that with GPK, it's a very dominant hero, so maybe for draft logic, it's like,
we have to take the snap ourselves if GPK doesn't get it, but I've not been like impressed
by the snap, it's not been like taking over every game it's played, so why put CJ on
the hero?
CJ wants to cross the river and do things, he doesn't want to sit back and be the artillery,
you know, like, it's a very different playstyle, so I think CJ's kind of got hurt by the draft
quite a lot.
I think you could always just say any position for why was it Windranger that you wanted to
last pick when it felt like there were so many more still in the pool that could have
had a little bit more initiating, a little bit more of a catch.
It's like, what did the win ranger offer that others, you know,
position fours didn't?
We have to say they did win the lanes and they had like,
so they crushed the lanes.
It's just like the that doesn't win games. Exactly.
And that's why it's if you play better, it's good.
Because they did teams win like 25 minutes on full snowball.
No, not necessarily, but you did also see that.
I think bedroom did outclass them in like the mid game.
Like they're down like five, six K gold.
They land a really good smoke.
They get a deep war they get multiple more kills they abuse all their item timings what I can't see is that maybe they were like
Okay, we're gonna go windranger acts
We're gonna win the lane quite hard
But then you need to keep up the pressure like you don't own carries just by having them be
1k less network than you in the laning stage you have to continue you have to smoke on them invader stuff
That's what I think a better position for though could do that. I don't see that coming out from win range very often
Okay, you win lane, but then what is the position for when you're into really doing that continue adding that pressure
Hopefully you can go mid maybe help CJ get a rune and I think it's like the overall connection
but if they have heroes that can make it easier, I'm fully on board.
Okay, you're on board for that one. Maybe we see it a little bit differently.
Maybe Yandex themselves are going to see it in a whole different light as well,
but they're going to want to come back, they're going to want to fight harder,
and maybe even draft better for a game number two.
Even though they won lanes on the side of Yandex for Game 1, it was not enough to stop
a GPK rampage from closing that game out.
So now you want to look towards, do you try and shut them down a little bit harder, or
do you just focus on yourself in this draft?
Beb and Maganna have first picked this time around, so that is the difference between
Game 1 and Game 2, as though we look towards banned.
The other team is still going to be banned. The adjustment is Kez is going to be banned this time around, even though that didn't mark first pickers.
I'm a little bit surprised by that. They might think that they just don't have the bans to facilitate it, or if there's something else at Yandex.
During this break, there's a high chance that they either talk about, we will ban it, or if we do give it up, we have a really good answer.
So maybe they're also just trying to destroy their prep in some way.
I mean, it's also like, if you don't ban the Kez and suddenly Yandex because with the four bans, they flood the pool with more heroes.
Do you really want to have to enter the debate of like, are we taking first with Kez?
Even BB, the way they drafted last time, they used it on the second pick.
So they probably just respect the hero on that position more than first.
I feel like you could maybe hold it and put it, you know, have the Timbersaw be the one that you banned second.
See a couple more bans from Yandex and then contemplate whether you still want to ban it out for yourself.
But I'll quickly run through the other bans, Lone Druid, Puck, Beast, Coddle there as well.
No, I think baby's gonna be just pretty happy with the opening so far
Is there anything that we've missed other than to row being available Spain was banned last game in first phase?
Yeah, I think it was by Yandex versus BB. It was yeah
So this is the clock was the other one that has been let through and I picked up
Yeah, so obviously after some games, you know you have a bit of a switch up also different pick priorities
So some heroes do go through but yeah, next they're gonna have the tree and this time around obviously Madadie is no stranger
to play the good old tree and protector.
It's very stable.
Both teams are going to be very content.
This is not really showing anything, of course,
when you have these type of lineups.
Both are information givers, for a tree and clock.
So I am looking at having a couple elements of map play
in both lineups to utilize the heroes correctly.
And they do take away the Slardar.
So, I think, you know, BB, they are looking towards CJ going,
hmm, didn't really have much presence in the last game.
you might just default back to the heroes that were successful in the group stage.
So still respecting CJ and Mentsi in the bands.
I think so too, and it's overall a good call.
I also want to see how Yannick's go about it overall.
They have Last Pick as their second pick.
Do they want to try and run a similar scenario where you give priority to CJ
just to make sure that he has the Last Pick against GPK in the matchup?
Or do you just jam his hero 16-17 in the next phase and just call it a day?
Because already with what Bamboo are doing,
They are reducing like his options at least already by one with the slaughter, which I do like this from Bedlam
Yeah pondering a bit more as well on this this position
Not a side there for Yandex
I'm trying to look for that drafts and they don't often a phase double pick supports often is like support into core often like DMs
Position here out of the phase
But I wouldn't be opposed to just seeing you know like the hoodwinks the Rubik's the generic dudes
and regressed the lineup. So then BB has to reveal a bit more information.
Again, often BB they kind of take the core in the first phase and then of course you can kind of
counter it that way but again with both supports being open it's like who's going to break the
draft first to reveal kind of the direction that they're going to go for. Yeah definitely would
mind if Yennex was jamming support like out of the phase I would say it's totally okay. Also with
Bedboom's second ban on the TA I think it's quite good. Watson's TA, best TA that we have right now.
Also, when you play with Treant, you want a turret guy. You're going to want Drow, you're going to want TA, SF obviously is also banned, so you're definitely, like, you're limiting the options already of, like, the one archetype of Fero that they are looking for.
I mean, yeah, that's actually one option. I kind of, the Drow, of course, Janix out of the face could just take that, then you have the Tree, the Drow, like, you kind of, you lock in exactly what you're going to have.
It does open up for Miro to find his, you know, the enigmas, the more kind of quirky offlaners.
that he literally be fast
That lad will never get banned
I genuinely think Beb him
have no issue ever leaving Drown of Hope
because they themselves have a plethora
of ways to shut her down
If I look at what Watson did last game
I'll be a little surprised
obviously he should be confident in himself
and in his hero, but I don't think that Drown game
felt that good to him
like you had a free lane and then there's no real pushback
nothing really ever came together
so just kind of dodge that and go for something else
That's what was gonna be those intriguing conversations where it's like is it Watson not enjoying the drought aspect
Is it CG from the mid lane tempo is like is it the windranger support?
Like there's multiple different ways that you can kind of get to a quick conclusion during the break of game on game 2
And at the moment Yandex snap fire was not to blame, but of course I
Still feel like it's probably the support based on how they're drafting at the moment
Safe Windranger, this one is. I mean, he is, him and Saks are probably overall are like some of the best windrangers that you absolutely have available.
Think also Trian versus Windranger is a very nice matchup for Wind.
Like Trian just wants to stay in his lane and like collapse some guy in the face and like you win the 1v1 against Windranger. That is not the case.
Yeah, and there's also two heroes that like utilizing the twin gates, running down the river, kind of trying to find things.
And that of course will then set up for GPK to often go beyond God Lake, God Lake, sorry, or get rampages.
God Lake. God Lake. They've enjoyed the river.
Perhaps like the river into the God Lake.
I get it.
Perhaps you could look for
Miero's hero here
just because like 3 and 5
is like
not one dimension, but you very much know
what is coming, like both for what
he's going to do in the lane, and they're mainly
followed up with like ranged heroes.
So you can kind of understand
like what your lane will look like. So I think picking
your offline isn't like
difficult unless they do feel like okay you know watching it's like the overall
big boy okay the preemptive on dying interesting I mean again the andex
most likely we're looking towards you know drought with the tree the only main
turret left they did utilize on dying but to preemptively do it is even more of a
statement on the hero because it's not just we're picking into drives like they
actually think there's hero no matter what is strong we had mirror in the
interview saying that he just liked the build he copied it from a rank 500 player
Shout out to the rank 500s all there. Yep. You keep it up. I'm glad to be acknowledged. You're acknowledged
rank 500 immortal of course. Oh
Oh, that's not me. No, no, that's you
On that count of people just they just don't know about it. What other heroes do you have to play of them and dying net?
Winter Wyver and crystal maiden. Yeah, I'm just trying to know what's what's the future tech that mirrors me whooping out in the off lane
Um, Lino.
Ah, of course.
I don't know why I should have known that.
Yeah, of course.
Okay, I mean this is like the old fight of like when Undying,
Offlane, even, you know, in position 5, you'd pick like,
the niches prefer to mirror the lane in a Coral.
Because of course you have the trees,
you just send them at the Undying,
he doesn't get any decay from that, of course,
and then you get just to try and bully.
You also get kind of positioning,
so when he throws Tombstone down,
you can try and, you know, kill the Tomb nicely.
And yours in case you would the letter patches well the way that the trients spawn damage
He always has more damage because it doesn't matter if they're close to you or not
And it's the same with the trients themselves if you have like two sets and they're completely different basically all the effects are global
Yes, so you farm way faster your trients are way stronger, and it's a really cool answer to the undying
It's also a good laner against Clockwork like you mainly play on cogs
You have trients that you're obviously max as a foreign nature's prophet where you can just you know keep killing them
which is super nice and then to take the boom as well like we see how the undying naturally just
wants to step up into the fight of course spamming decay it's not that much of a difficult hero to
understand what's going to do just do the guy don't let him run around with his flesh column with
you know seven decays of aggs and now he's got like 40 strength and doing this so i think yeah and
it's just really respecting the undying because two kits one for lane one for the game just for a
mirror undying i want to see where we're bedroom take this here i think later when you when you
When you think about the carries, both Manta and Lincoln's buyers are really good from
the carry roll.
Like you're playing against Overgrowth, so Manta, Giga, good.
Lincoln's against Doom later as well.
And I'm not fully sold yet on the Doom pick, if I'm going to be honest.
I think Undying as a hero, like you have, you can drop your Tombstone, it's very hard
to team fight overall.
Undying is also very good at Rushing.
Ate its own Doom.
Now you have a Storm on top and I think this is a very damn good Storm game.
Yeah, the Storm is pretty uncontested, right?
You've got Overgrowth and a Kierkei for the lockdown.
I'm not going to even contemplate adding doom into the mix there, because that's not a thing that really connects on a GP came Storm Spirit after all.
But yeah, for VB, we are going to see the same motions, right?
It's the play through the undying lane, give Storm the active runes due to supports rotating in,
and then it's a constant pressure of when Tombstone's up and Storm has resources, they'll go across the river, they'll find kills, they'll be annoying,
and behind all of that, Kira Titch will then still get a carry pick to try and outstair what we believe is still the carry nature's profit.
it should be right I do think so the windranger easy can still go carry in
the scenario just like the windranger was profit matchup you don't really care
as windranger you just lock on to profit when he TP's in you have to always
think about where you're TPing but then I guess also like generally with how
bad boom have played I don't think save loves playing clock or I guess you could
give him a new four and then you play the you play the windranger clock okay
but then again do you have that many fours that like change the top matchup
of like natures tree and I feel like you're okay there as wind ranger I think one option would be you
go for like the lion or maybe like a like a morana so you have a bit more kind of side lane pressure
where you give undying fight into the lane because of course morana you can just kind of continue
right clicking with the undying and then lion of course brings the stuns and then both heroes like
to play really deep into the map to the invite ganks I mean they're banning out the hood which
is a four that like to make this type of moves anyways okay so they ban the ember and the viper
because yeah you if gpk gets off to a good start i currently envision him having an incredibly good
game like those heroes are not threatening you sure nature's my tp on you and like pressure your
tower but he'll never kill you like literally right now the only way you die is if you get doomed
so yannick's need to find a way whether it's a hero that is going to give you
lockdown or buys an early orc to go up against the storm you need something
and this is why they go for the watson last bit anti mage carry to burn the matter of the undying
Blow up the storm spirit. You're gonna work out where you owe heroes go, but
They they they cover their bases they also banned the drought
Let's see, you know wouldn't mind tempo and BB your suggestion of the Windranger carry I think is totally fine
I'm also like looking still like I've got this man to Lincoln stuff in mind
Maybe I'm like overthinking it, but there's heroes like Luna's and morphings that could maybe work
They'll just go for the line. So it was a nice call, which means it's just your windranger carry solid lane solid stuff overall
Yeah, I mean the game just feels like it kind of played itself out, right?
Like the supports who act like stone for runes, the supports can also give life to undying's laning phase and
You know the win your individual five farm, like it could just be repeat the last game where BB
Just kind of chill, they hit creeps and then suddenly there'll be like a switch that'll get turned on and they'll go
Crazy on the map and that kind of constant pressure into the cooldowns of a doom
Even the snap fight to some degree more than the kisses could go quite punished
I don't see a crazy
Good for like you should pick a new mid here in my mind like on on yandex
I would just like them to go go doom snapfire put the snapfire where we kind of wanted it last game already
Which is on the plus four
Maybe you go like a bit nuclear you play on more tempo you go some DP nice talk or something else
This is a staple for them, but it is quite greedy.
His second most played competitive hero, it was banned out, I believe, in the last game due to respect on CJ.
But yeah, it is an abundance of greed on the Andex, right?
It's like Invoker again, fair.
He does go with, like, Media Hammer and a bit more, kind of, active items,
but still, to have Profit, Doom and Invoker in the same lineup,
you are looking at having what, ideally, a 10k net worth,
maybe a little bit more across the board to be truly happy what the heroes are
gonna be bringing to the fights. Like I know it is one of their favorites here, he's
super good at Invoker, like CJ's Invoker is absolutely no joke, but when I see the
Storm in Volker matchup, like it doesn't answer Storm to me, like you were
basically, you're giving yourself more greed and you're not stopping GPK from
what he wants to do in the game and I think he is set up for an incredibly
easy Storm game. But there is one really good thing that Alex can play on, is the
damage of BB, Storm and Wynringer also need items and then dying is, is very
obvious who they're going to play through in the early game. So if Invoker can like, you know,
run top with like Ghost Walk or something, and then Nature's Prophet is already there,
Doom comes through, you kill Meera a couple times,
Babydruff could potentially fall apart before it even gets online. Of course, if we're,
you know, ignoring GPK getting every rune properly due to, you know, the support
death that BB seems to generate in any game or matchup that they play.
So how many rampages is GPK going to get this time around?
I legit think he could get one this game.
Yeah.
Only one! Come on, guys!
I know two is kinda crazy.
Yeah but two, two, two greedy.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
That's like, then I'm coping a little bit too hard.
One's tasteful.
No?
It's like, one's tasteful and it's real.
You know, it's like, no bullshit.
We're straight keeping it real right.
But it will be like a five man agonized vortex, you know, the blue hole, whatever it, you
know, Sunsands calls it and then you'll be able to just obliterate the game.
You got the right cast for the Stormsford Act.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Got that covered.
Minimum five men.
That is true.
That is very, very true.
Ever on the fact that this is our upper bracket finals here
There is so much on the line for the side of Yandex and Bat Boom here for Bat Boom if they end up winning this game
They end up going into the grand finals Yandex. It's upper bracket
So they still have a lifeline, but do you think that this is a strong enough?
Lifeline here Kazoo. I think it's possible last time I like Yandex. It's dressed a little bit more this time
I'm a little bit more leaning on the bb side myself
But gameplay should decide most of it all the matters Yandex. They have CJ on evoker
They have DM on Doom both hero to play combinations. I've done really well this slam and we get to see a new patch nature profit
My thing is normally when you see in vogue, it's like, okay
Maybe your issue in game one was your side lanes weren't going so well now you get to help them a little bit more yourself was struggling
You get to have that global presence
But Delain's went well and it was more towards the breakdown afterwards that they couldn't keep progressing the map
Does this lineup allow more of that? Assuming the lanes go their favor again and they have a lot of annoying stuff
right? You have Invoker with, like, Forge Burst here, Meteor Hammer, you have Triance running around.
So, absolutely, I think, in the early game, if they can hold it, which they kind of should,
and if they can make a lot of pressure, which they also can, with Nature's TPing here,
Invoker's free farming, you wanna gank Doom, you wanna gank Invoker,
there's a lot of people to shut down in this game.
Just be in the right place. When you're against BB, you have here, like, Clock,
Lion, Storm. If you're out of position, you will be reminded. So, Yandex, they can't be split across
them out by last game. Reel it in just a little bit, tone down the farm if you have to. Just be
ready that BB will play this pick-off game.
Alright, right place, right time for all of our players. They're in game. They're ready to get this one started.
We'll see who comes out top, out on top at the end of game number two.
Hello, hello! Game two of the upper bracket finals here at Blast Slam. Brought to you by Pauli Marken,
who are the official trading partner at Blaston. Did you know? I knew. Good job. I knew. I've been
paying attention, Shannon. I pay attention to everything you say, as you know. Well, that's
not true, but I'm glad you're paying attention to some things. After all these years, it's like
an old married couple tend to just not care about each other anymore. That's just how marriage goes
over time. You'll learn soon enough, I'm sure.
as we get into the game and we're going to be seeing some cool heroes because
Miero gets to play his undying again which is always entertaining
Chira junior on invoker and Watson playing the nature's prophet the ever
present nature's prophet always in the action which means it's going to be an
action-packed game. Do you think that they can come out even on lanes?
It's definitely a major pivot for the side of Yandex in particular here. Just a
clear switch up. Watson is going to be a lot more involved this time on a
profit instead of a drought. You stole away the tree end which I thought was
either going to be... I'm not surprised. I said they should consider banning it
after game one I think. That was probably... it was a very major contributing
factor to how they struggled to re-stabilize the game basically for
And it's another don't worry about a flight. Oh
Interesting situation here, okay
Did he have vision there? Where's the century?
How do you know at a hunch? Huh?
I'm actually not sure if they saw him walk in there with the server word. No wait, that's trans ops
Yeah, well they saw him earlier, right? But anyway, he was just assumed that he was scanning behind the towers and she was his hero
Funny two for two split with in special here
And socks will get to work so I feel like this is an x-factor or an ace up their sleeve that bedroom have that other teams need
To figure out is why do bedroom value and dying and how can they either?
Determine whether it's the right game to ban it or when can they run it themselves?
Because it's been against drow which has been in every game. We've cast the last couple days until yeah this one Yaro is just
The only one playing this correct me if I'm wrong right like from what I've seen yeah
it's uh it seems to value it against ranged carries in lane and then gets a
fast soul ring uses decay skill soul rip as well just tries to bully out
effectively the enemy support and then put the pressure onto the core and it's
been working great for them I mean if he likes it against ranged carries why not
melee carries as well I'm sure he does yeah there's no reason not to pick at
every game that yeah guess so maybe they're not picking at every game much
the game is over in a lot of
cases, but that boom. Took a
couple of good fights, but
they're not going to draw too
much attention to it, so they
can bring it out when it really
matter. Yeah Well, this game
would secure them into the
grand finals. So pretty good
time. Bring it out, I suppose.
And if you're just joining this
game one going to that boom, but
in a very weird way, and X was
up like 5 K at 10 minutes. I
want to say it was looking like
it would be very stompy. They
The Bat Boom took a couple of good fights, got back in the game, and then it just flip-flopped,
and they won in 29 minutes.
Yeah, that was the thing that was the most impressive about everything in the last game
was how short it was.
I mean, it's highly unlikely given the start, but that was even on the cards, especially
for Bat Boom to win that.
So they've got to be oozing confidence.
They're running a lot of their good stuff here, obviously.
Get to see Katya only in his clockwork instead of the train.
one of his best heroes here, save on the standard range support with a stun and burst damage.
He's running Lion, last game it was Woodwink, and GP came on a Spirit hero.
So there's clearly, there's clearly a standard structure here for Bethune that they are finding
success with.
And until somebody beats them and they run this archetype Lionel, I don't see any reason
for them to stop.
And how good would you say the Doom pick is this game?
against something like Undying, you can't heal at the very least, but...
Cause like when Miro gets to this point, when he's like at 5k HP, does it matter that much?
He's still stealing strength?
Um...
Yeah, it's not an obvious Doom game in general.
It's...if you Doom Windranger, that's obviously very good.
She kinda doesn't have any counterplay to that, but...
By nature of being a ranged carry with a stun, you can find the right situations to play against the...
We'll see. Now, from Yennex's perspective, the nature's profit, how early do you like
to see this hero get involved in kills? Because you have an invoker, so you have a lot of
global presence overall. You have living armor here, and so three things that are global.
I definitely think the idea here is to collapse on the top tower relatively early. If not
before then, when Doom gets level six, you Doom Boot Windranger, you dive her, take the
tower, start building the game from there on out. Definitely some early activity would
be the way to go. And when they do play Watson on the profit, I do feel like they do a pretty
good job of interacting with that part of the hero. Sometimes teams play carry profit
and they either make one or two bad moves and kind of lose all the momentum or they
make too few moves, which is also very bad. But in my experience, Watson seems to have
a pretty good understanding of the balance between the two.
I feel like they have a good team for these early skirmishes, so we'll see how it works
out for Yandex and if they can bounce back after a shocking game one development, shocking
game one loss where they GG out before even a single Rax is taken actually.
In fairness, the game was pretty over.
I didn't mind the GG at all.
I was just impressed that it got to that point so quickly.
Kind of styled on them towards the end with that rampage and now he gets his best hero the storm spirit his
Storm is I mean, is there a better storm in Dota? Would you say?
Currently I don't think so right he might be the best I think so
Hecks that's gonna be first blood for me arrow
Your bet boom fan love to see it Sunstrike misses
Yeah, that's the downside to the Sunshine of this game. You have no setup until overgrowth.
There's nothing reliable that makes Chara able to just guarantee a kill here or there to get himself an early lead.
I guess if you land a cookie into Scatterblast combination, that should be it.
But yeah, so they have that one option.
option
early on be difficult to connect on that
mid lane very
very even overall 24 and 6 versus 29, so slight advantage upk
which, yeah, standard. I feel like I'm used to seeing evoker lose the mid lane
kinda
every game
strong isn't really win many lanes
but the hero doesn't need to win
just needs to get its own stuff. It's not an oppressive mid laner in any sense. Just
wants to get its own farm, go and take jungle camps between waves and accelerate. So that
is what you do get here by taking invoker into storm, is that you know that you're going
to have a lane. Nice dodge there from Keratish, DM just getting kited pretty hard here and
now Sox is taking a bit of a punishment. Yeah, those cogs are something else I have
have to say. Very very powerful early on.
Very good nerf this patch in the D version. Higher mana cost. And significantly lower
damage after level 1.
And battery salt was untouched I do believe?
Yeah of course. Can't have good old pluck anymore. Zero has been demoted from boss to
baller of older.
That's true. GPK does get the room but uses most of his mana to get to it and now the
They're with the cookie to follow GPK dead
Very nicely done from Yandex and save looks to be next on the list as a fairy blood grenade
not
mattering double kill for Chira on the invoker
Very nice for him thought that worth now by a decent margin
This is gonna lead to a fast meteor hammer very greedy zip there for the rune for GPK
Yeah, I think I just did not expect that number of heroes being involved in the air getting gone on now tombstone
Instantly killed off thanks to socks up and the arrow takes a tumble
Nice recognition there from the index as immediate spawn and TP son. No XP lost from the arrow
Yeah, they do have the little shredder for the tombstone always a good thing to have against the undying
What's the second longest cool down in the game after that ability I'm like this is more than twice as long as any other cool down
Wait, what's the top?
This is the longest third to respawn right 480 second cool down in your second life. Yeah
I'm just trying to think what's the second highest I used to be raced king all but they've
Yeah, right thing on level one. No, they definitely know
Level one is now
180, they literally halved it. That's so hilarious. It was 360, right? I think originally
a long time ago, though. It's a cool black hole. 180 as well. I mean, that might be the
second highest abilities then, three minutes. Yeah, unless I'm- Wouldn't be surprised. Missing
something special. Oh, they're gonna try again onto me arrow, but nah, no way.
He's A-OK, has 8-minute rune about to spawn.
Plenty of coverage from the supports.
Yeah, it doesn't look like there's going to be a fight for it top, is in-viz trying
to secure that for GPK.
Looks like he's able to get it.
Just use cocks here.
Alright, never mind.
Or he has to use a long zip.
Every rune so far for the Betboom side.
1k early advantage for Yandex.
Nature's Prophet.
one of those heroes that kills like you, is there, trying to think of other heroes that
are like this where, even if you lose the lane somehow, which rarely happens on each
profit, it feels like this hero just comes back every time, just because of how fast
you can farm and you can go anywhere on the map.
It comes back on the net worth charts, but it also doesn't necessarily use net worth
as well as other heroes, so it kind of, it can be misleading.
Like let's say you have a profit that has the same net worth as a wind ranger, who gets
more out of the gold.
DM gets focus fired and there's a gank bottom.
Sunstrike does hit Miero.
Will drop to the deck, but now the counter initiation from GPK
and save focusing on the support for the time being.
And Sox is eventually taken out.
GPK's getting pretty low, but Kiritich
TP's to the bot lane to get a nice shackle.
But the tornado counter initiation from Chira Jr.
now to try to turn this around onto GPK.
What's that cold snap?
Another right click should do it.
Brings him down.
GPK and Watson dies as well.
Also, all the core is dying in this. No supports.
Unless they spawn again. I don't even remember now.
That's a pretty long fight to begin with, but yeah, three deaths on the Radiant, two on the Dire.
Everybody was a core except Snapfire.
A lot of big kills being exchanged. Not really a big overall change to the game with this.
Well, I guess the good news for Kiritzich is he was in the mix and survived.
Now he's going to be on the receiving end. Here comes Profit.
It's Cookie, Watson comes into play as well. DM joins the party, burning into the ground with the Scorched Earth and Cat the Omi, wrong place, wrong time my friend.
So two quick kills for Yandex as they try to turn this into a tier one as well.
This is what you want to see with Profit. And maybe for the side of Bedbone perhaps an unexpected timing for this.
A lot of the time when you make these plays it's around Siege Creeps, but the Siege Wave is just about to arrive now.
So they did it before they even had that at their disposal.
And that... I do think this was the conversation they had after game one, was that, okay, we had a good lead,
but we felt like we couldn't activate our heroes enough.
We're going to pick a lineup where we're going to do well on lanes and we're going to play fast.
So Profit's going to be involved, Invoker's going to be involved, and Trance going to scout and set up the plays.
So far so good, another early lead for Yandex. Now we need to not repeat the problem from last game.
from last game. And I think the good news in that regard, I don't consider Storm in the same tier of Ember for this game-state.
Storm plays better from ahead. When you have an early disadvantage, Ember is often times able to find these like really clean setups.
It'll be a lot harder for Storm without.
I'd tell that to Sumail.
D.A.C. Sumail.
Yeah. Now, Build has changed a little bit in 12 years.
12 years, DM, he's spotted, does have his ult, not going to want to use it here in all likelihood,
puts up his arms as if he was thinking about it, hookshot finding, Maladine out, inside
the cogs, will be a second kill for Bethsum, and that's the way to get back in the game
for your Storm Spirit.
Junior has a Meteor Hammer, gonna be going for the A-toast. Next, buy some good pressure here to the Tier 1.
And with that little Shredder and Watson joining, should be able to get another Tier 1.
I was about to say par for the course, but let's say par for their plan.
I think this is what they were hoping for. Just take these two towers very quickly.
Now comes the challenging part. Now it's about building on this. These are the two easiest towers to take in the game.
For their lineup, they're gonna get at level 6 now on Triant.
Speaking of level 6 is...
Clock and...
Lion, both ready to roll.
Just can't tell me I'm gonna go for a hookshot here.
Doesn't look like it. They're waiting.
They wanna find a bigger fish.
Doom's a pretty big fish.
The moniker is just squint hard enough
Yeah, electric warp into the hookshot socks up cookie
That's a lot of burst damage to want to dm with that finger of death and that's enough to bring down the demon
I like the cores have died more than the supports this game overall. Yeah
Both sides connecting pretty nicely
They have on the on the dire. There's five core deaths
On the radiant there's four. So yeah more than half for both teams
That seems unusual kind of unusual. Yeah
Yeah, I think for his usual lotus and against
doom and overgrowth
Cold snap to some degree
Pretty damn good this game
It's just as go-to if he has any reason to do this on dying he will what games will he not go
When there's literally no single target to reflect or no dispel, how long does that happen?
Basically never. It's a real feels-good item on Undying. If you think about how much certain carries and midlaners love buying
mage-layer for the Perseverance component, this is Undying's version of that.
It's very nice to get Mono Region this year. Mono Region converts into farming.
Since your only farming ability is decay and it's quite expensive to use so he has to buy soul ring and an item
containing a void stone
Yeah, if it gives game one is anything to go by that boomer a okay right now with a 2k disadvantage
Obviously a different beast this time around with how the strategies work. Yeah can't help but feel like there's a better team
So far for sure and I think the same it's not exactly the same
I feel like a similar pressure for DM to be the one to get things going.
Yeah, they don't have initiation once again, that's fair.
It's hard to connect, but if you can somehow get a good Doom target, and the fight definitely
opens up for you.
If you do some Stormwind rangers, things are looking quite good.
Or if Maladie can somehow get an early blink somehow, that could be an opening.
Generally doesn't play that way.
I do like that idea though, over the, he's going distiller.
I mean maybe you want to buy the distiller into Blink.
I was a little bit worried he was going to go for his, um,
he likes going solo run this hero,
and you do have a couple of good users of that in Profit and Invoker, but...
You know what, I changed my mind. Just get Sox and Aghanim separate
and initiate anytime you want, as Heritage found out here,
Sunstrike, not even if you need it.
Good connection from Yandex.
no true initiation really needed there no they're they're good from a distance
until the spells start coming out for sure it atos atos and kisses plus a
Sunstrike most heroes are gonna die to that
and he's queuing up the blink now in melody so maybe he's debating what to
get first get the omie get Sunstrike inside of his cogs
Trying to go bowling, but there's more response here from the Andexes. All five members are here.
He ran out of bowling balls. He kept trying and then they were caught.
I should think he might have been able to survive if he just ran away.
It's too fun. You know, you got a bowl.
Bowling is fun. I'll give you that.
I was wondering what kind of build DM was going to go for. Is the Radiance just automatic now on this hero?
I don't like I don't think it's a long arm the one doing it initially. Yeah on a consistent basis at least is
You can see me arrow in that flesh column tier one tower first movement from melody
It's not get tested there. No fortified. They should be able to clean this up. That'll be their first power of the game
So I'm kind of with you though. I wonder if there's a difference a mistake going radians on doom this game in particular with the
Limited patch
Yes, and he had a finger of bet on the cheer of Junior over Grotho, keeping three in place
with Sox to doing a good amount of damage. Watson joins the party, kills off save.
Shield Runes still on GPK, probably not an easy target to go for. Hookshot on to DM, still has his ultimate.
Obviously not wanting to use on a thought court because he dies just to casual right clicks here.
So double kill for Watson, and the tower does fall, but good response overall.
The Yandex look really really strong when they bring their numbers.
A good overgrowth to keep Invoker safe and the name of the game here for Yandex is to
get distance.
See the tornado EMP set up, immediate tombstone from Miro and the stun, and you would think
Invoker is in trouble but the cookie is nice overgrowth at the same time so Chira gets
to play.
And while they are not able to kill the storm with the shield rune, they still do get two
Two kills plus some more space on the map.
This tower was going to go down regardless.
6k the advantage.
A smile on Chira's face.
That's worth more than 6k right there.
Priceless.
Yep, as he purchases a Boots of Travel now.
So he can connect to a lot of these moves from, I mean they have the Watson Global
TP now as well.
That's the cookie initiation.
Watson coming in, right clicks onto the win runner.
That's Elmi's dead, so is Carrot Pitch.
A great response here from Yandex. Can they get more?
TPK is the one that is very, very elusive in this game, though.
Let me see, no DOOM.
In the area.
But still, another couple good kills for Yandex as their lead is continuing to balloon 9k in their favor.
Can't Betboom have a similar response to Game 1?
Trand is the key shannon, the zero.
Apparently.
Just seems to know who's right now.
9k advantage, Malady will be able to put some nice vision here.
I love this pairing between Trand and Prophet,
because Trand gets to place all these cool wards,
and Prophet can really use them globally on dying.
Can't even kill him.
Yeah, he's gone.
Very nicely done.
And Watson and company are gonna go for the old rush,
so they don't even have to trade a life for this.
And Yandex, I mean I have to say they have responded quite well after that game won.
And Aegis likely to watch in that.
Has a Mjolnir, Hurricane Pike, PKB is next.
I set this during phase one of this turn and I'll say that I feel like profit's underrated.
We see so many games where- It feels like it always looks good even in losses.
Yeah, it's really strong in lane.
You can flex it between mid and safe lane, you can even play support if you want to.
The global pressure, the early advantage, and then given that there's so much farm on the
map, obviously Prophet always has somewhere to go to farm.
It's not like that's new, but it seems that a couple of the numbers changed as of late,
including the buff to Spirit of the Forest in the D version now.
He actually got buffed this patch, so mid tournament.
I thought he was good before, now he's even better.
The trants that are alive contribute to Spirit of the Forest regardless of where they are
relative to your heroes. You don't need to be close to them. You just send them out
to play pushing your hero this more damage. Very very strong right now.
And Storm... oh! Overgrowth, Sunstrike as well! This will be huge! They get him finally!
GPK not elusive enough this time around. Finally outscores on this top section
which last game was the story for Yandex. Now they're using that to their
advantage it seems and tormentors up and now I think it's fair to say this is
unfamiliar territory for bet boom the course of died multiple times talked
about in game one that they have some of the best KDAs across all cores in
every position in the tournament the top freeze but now all of the cores have
died multiple times and you're on that I don't think I've seen them down 10k at
this point in the game in any game of the tournament so it's just looking very
very good for yandex they'll get the tormentors now they're gonna get the free
eyes in the forest as well as if they didn't have enough map control already
it's gonna get even worse you know it's very you're very cornered as bedroom
because if you get spotted on anything you know that you can get as you talked
about global dawn
and malady almost has the blink now on trans 21 minutes in very rich by his
standards it's guy a lot of the time doesn't get as much farm priority as other
self-inflicted probably yep find a runaway and electric vortex is the
last moment still not the biggest loss at all for Yandex they still have the
ages a lot of resources expended on that strong with only four galvanized stacks
21 minutes in that boom gonna have to worry about these eyes in the forest
Now, I always have to be ready to, right, there's just only so much you can do without
just buying a gem outright, which this early, you're just going to lose it.
Yeah.
Definitely looking difficult.
Smoke up.
For a play here, I'm dying now with the Blink Lotus.
We've seen plenty of fights where Miero really is a boss on this hero, but perhaps this numbers
This game is not like the other experiences he's had.
The crippling deficit this hero sometimes does not feel tanky at all.
And Watson is scaling out of control.
They are aligning on a couple of big items.
They have double BKB coming from Watson and Chira.
They have Blink coming for Doom.
Yeah, this is an insanely strong fight.
Super strong.
I was in a second life still there.
Maladay, he's found.
Finger of death, dead again.
And X don't seem to be too bothered about it. No, it's the perfect hero to lose to smokes.
Malady's been the target of the last two moves.
Completely fine for them.
There's the second BKB.
Clockwork is found. We'll be able to get to the other side though, so the Sun Strike misses.
They don't really deal well with BKB, do they?
They don't have much damage.
Windranger is a hybrid hero for now with the Mellstrom, doesn't hit very hard with the right clicks during focus fire.
Storm, mostly magical, and Undying Core doesn't really do physical damage either, so these BKBs are going to give Nye in vulnerability.
For all intention purposes, this should be an easy game here or not for Yandex. This game almost plays itself, you just need to not have major slip-ups.
slip up, keep playing map control, out form the opponent, look for place when you want to.
Aegis 4 only another 20 seconds, but Yandex, the map control is smothering now.
Suffocating.
Yeah.
Smothering?
That makes sense too, actually, doesn't it?
Lucky.
say a random word and hope it fits horse that's why yeah that's where horse came
from action it's a great filler word no I mean I would take that over um and like
any day that's right people started saying horse instead of life and horse
Malady is
Orson dead, I don't know about that never mind
Those close though he lost 20% he was who's out in there for a moment
Miro has blank now in
BKB will be the next target for him, but it is very far away. He's bottom that worth of the cores
I think maybe the worst news is
is the Keratich Windrunner also very low net worth right now.
Yeah.
You're not coming back in this game unless you
get one convincing team fight.
Scrambushes are highly unlikely because it's
so hard to find stuff.
You have to smoke to make plays with all the players
in your plans.
And they're moving without Doom being cast a single time,
by the way.
True, right?
Yeah, I don't think he's used it.
That is unusual to be ahead.
having not used it. Crazy. It's on 5k damage to enemy heroes. Wow. DM 1 and 3 right now,
as well as Malady.
It's true, it's easy to see he didn't use Doom because his damage bar had no yellow in
it.
Yeah. So...
Chirijunia does have some though, from the Sun Strike.
Good to see he's been hitting Sun Strikes. This is when your teammates are like you never
hit, you show them this graph in the replay.
That's right, I'll cheer at Junior though.
Back to get ganked.
Hex up, fingered, dead.
Big kill for Bethelman.
He need a few more of these.
Finally something.
They've been starving for this.
It's step number one of many.
Looking at another five of those types of kills
are a convincing team fight.
We can start talking.
Finally, bottom tower as well.
They've wanted this for 10 minutes.
The kill on Invoker should be theirs.
of the
other care to teach that is for me on there
or he buy
that should be
that
of the
probably what's the main target of the index although it looks like they want to try to find a fight
air-touch inside the sprout will bkb taking tons of right click damage though
hope chopper try to slow this down but they have the sun strike and kato me
dead to rights as well big pick-offs for the index and next time what's in what have an mkb
good luck that was without it
Don't you know what I have any follow-up here surely just doing a lot of damage though
It's all of gpks resources and given his low galvanized stacks contain forever to his money
He's just gonna TP back to base
DM is gonna be the first doom of the get never mind
Attempted TP cookie not gonna hit Symphony. Oh, hey, they the sausage has been thwarted syndrome
They've eaten it, and they made it work.
No need to use Doom though.
Yeah, still no Doom.
Maybe DM is trying for some sort of record here.
Longest game won without using your ultimate ability on a hero.
We've had some enigma games that are really long.
I mean, surely they've got casts.
Even though they won.
Even though they win without using Black Hole the whole game.
Yeah.
It probably exists.
Oh, look at Maladies.
How many trees does he have up? I don't see any on the map.
I think there's one in the top.
Close to a sentry.
Okay.
That's it though.
Ah, one bottom as well.
The outpost.
Wowee.
Okay.
I mean, it got nerfed a lot.
It's hard to have one.
Was it nerfed to this extent, would you say?
I mean, they last for six minutes, and the cooldown of them is 2.0 something.
So, can only have a few up at a time at this point.
Good riddance, even though I did enjoy playing Triant, that was not fair.
Luckily, we do get to see Aghanim's on Tree every now and then.
Yeah, well, Malady, if this were Katsuo on the Triant in this game state, he would farm
up an axe, or just get it passively eventually.
I remember telling you that the axe was good and you said I was a moron.
Well, you said you had it for good for different reasons than why they're buying it.
But still good.
Okay.
Sure, technically correct as always.
That's correct.
Attempted.
Rosh from Batboom.
DM drops out with a BKB looking to get his Doom off.
Finally does so.
Dooms himself.
I hit two Dooms and won.
Alright.
He finally did it.
If he comes at his own cause, GPK wants to finish the jump and pop the BKB.
The end does drop in the end.
Buyback from the clockwork.
GPK completely out of mana, though.
And X. Are they going to feel safe to continue fighting here?
Can he get the cookie? No, they're not.
Socks are getting jumped on by Miero, Mjolnir on top of him.
Shackle not going to hit.
Light mirror, dispelled immediately.
A little bit disconnected from both sides.
Yeah, I mean that effectively turns into a 4v4, but Storm has no mana, so it's kind of a 3v4.
So if that boom can't go for more than that, you can trade the line for the doom.
That's decent, and I really like from that boom that they tried this to be honest.
They're recognizing this game is in a very bad spot, and they're trying to force some sort of fight where they can maybe find an advantage,
and Roshan is one of the best places for him dying to get value out of his hero.
If the clock works, maybe find a good angle, separate the enemy team, looking for literally
anything to get them an advantage.
Because as it stands, if they want to win a fight, it needs to be on very specific terms.
They can't really kill BKB heroes very well, so they need to get the Hex from Lyon to get
a burst.
They want them dying to take damage and ideally get doomed, which is what happened.
So that was good for them.
No wonder he hasn't used Doom yet.
They were doing better without it.
That's true.
Just don't skill it next time, Stats are right there.
Nope.
Meryl narrowing in on his BKB, still a thousand away though.
And for GPK, he's got the Witchblade BKB, Kya Sange, and Linkin's is roughly halfway
there.
And for caretich
Don't like just hurricane pike nothing crazy
Watson is the one we need to keep track of though
He has the MKB that he talked about Daedalus is almost done as well as GPK a lot of problems have to be KB zipped away
Let's call
Yeah, sigh this next for Chira then that is a kill
Also, he has found
Or is it the other way around hookshot and the shackle focus fighters?
Well, they want Malady dead, but get him but they've used a lot of resources for this Yandex comes in with the doom now on top of
Here's hitches face to dead now for bet boom
And a 20k lead for Yandex this has ballooned out of control as a guaranteed rush
No shot. I mean unless GPK wants to be Superman here and try to steal it. Only play they have
have a Daedalus. Watson is close to maxed out at 30 minutes. What are we looking at here?
What can he improve? Treads into Satanic, I guess. Consume Ags, I guess. Yeah, Ags,
Moon Charge. So yeah, sure, you do have Runes of Glory like that, but in terms of your items,
you're almost there already. I think you want to keep me on here and pike the whole game.
So yeah, Stapetanic is the last item.
It'll have that in three minutes, if even.
Look at his net worth.
Almost 30k at 30 minutes.
Pretty crazy.
Yeah, I mean this is basically Alchemist level farm.
11, 1, and 8, 530 CS.
This tower dead to creeps?
Looks like it.
spurts. GPK. I think he's changed his mind. Okay. We're gonna find an opening onto that
top net worth aka Alchemist Watson hybrid. But it's not enough damage. Instead, save
is gonna die to the right clicks of the nature's profit and Watson continue to chase DM. They
don't have a cancellation for this TP. Good attempt there from Batboom, but obviously
That was the ages anyway, so that's gonna be the tormenter
That's music
Pretty sharp for poker. Oh, what is he? What is he still actually impure, right?
The Sunstrike one seems pretty weak weak sauce
Yeah, those walk now applies the ice wall damage per second and he's in a larger race meh
Yeah, I feel like the other two shards are just not good enough. Yeah, they're just worse
I believe we had one game where someone took the ghost wall. Yeah, they misclicked it. Probably
I mean the eggs I find very interesting though, and I know that there's
Games where they the other ones make sense outside the cataclysm seen a tornado one a lot actually
Just for the fun. I haven't seen a whole lot of them.
Conceptually very cool to have the choice of aggs and sharp
If only that was for every hero some one day. Yeah
It's coming in the big patch coming in this week. That's right. Carrot itch next week
And GPK spotted too many delectable choices for re-index
Malady talked about him getting a blink has the blink same with socks a snap fire
As GPK he spotted. He's gonna get the boom off. No
GPK has to be KB in retreat zipped away Watson will
Make GPK check his pants real quick. He's fine for now
No BKB though
Nothing scarier than a
Watson keeping in next to you at this stage of the game and he almost has the
combined network of the top two enemy cores okay that's an exaggeration no
actually all you got that five K off having the same as Storm plus Windranger
completely ridiculous 12 and one right now minute and a half on the ad is so
So surely you try to go high ground here, I think.
Well, Yandex did have a game a couple days ago where they were very careful against LGD.
Painfully careful, some might say, against the Snapfire on defense.
Yeah, look at them, don't...not even remotely interested.
I mean, to their credit, Bat Boom are in their base, expecting a push.
This is a winning play.
This is classic Falcons.
Yeah, you're just feeding away gold now.
by having all your heroes in your base, and the rest just spread out.
So at what point will he be ready? Because Watson, we talk about the
in terms of his growth, like, kind of already there.
Not gonna get that much stronger. I mean, I think that don't just yolo this.
I don't think this is ever going to win in the game. Go smoke.
Try to find a play. Have a smoke or clockwork. I know it's easier said than done, but this
is just a losing strategy. My point is it's not going to get easier, but you're not close
to...maybe you get the crystal-less and then do it, just to have a little bit of extra
damage. Or, okay, you wait for the Aegis, sure. Smoke after the Aegis is down. 15 seconds.
far away. And then what does the index do at that point? Because if they spread, then
Beppu can theoretically find a good pick off. And their goal is to have Treant get smoked
on. I think. They have blink, so you can even survive getting the breaker. Yeah, that's
worked out pretty well so far. Age is gone. Beppu would expect to smoke here relatively
But you're right, Karatash is not buying anything, so he has 3.5k in the bank at the moment.
Could get the Chrysler at the very least, but obviously would like to have Bi-Bak in
theory.
I don't think saving for Bi-Bak is the best play.
I think you're so far behind that you need everything.
You have to buy all damage so that you can have a chance at winning a fight convincingly
enough.
Like this windranger if she buys back and returns to fight is she even a threat on the second life
That's like worth worrying about when she doesn't hit that hard
That's true. I know it's just gonna get like five click by profit
You have to buy out he did buy something now is that the chrysalis? Yeah, is it buyback with that? No
No, can't finish the Daedalus quite yet as another range rack fights the dust just to these measly treants
Well, they are big now, 25-1s, so they do have 1,350 HP.
Like, physically, they're not that big anymore, though.
That's true. Yeah, they should grow like they used to with this.
They just look like babies, though.
I definitely agree. The 25-tomb, they should look like the iron or treant, but...
Should just say 3x treant HP damage inside.
Here we go, Batboom. Maybe a last-ditch effort for this game, too.
Malady looking for the Overgrove to get the hex on the line to start things out.
PM with the BKB looking for a Doom target, still has it at his disposal, save list to be dead.
Outright, Sox is still alive, actually back to almost full HP as GPK.
He's focusing onto Sox, but there's Malady with the blinked Overgrove.
Sunstrike gonna clip GPK, they burst down Kat'sa Omi, Nieros next, not Tanki at all at this stage of the game.
The DM drops right on top of the head of GPK in an ultra kill for Watson as he goes for an extra rampage, so he gets back to back rampages for each respective game.
As a double rampage, as Watson is hitting like a fucking truck, can they finally kill this?
And as he gets the hookshot in, right fixer then, those teammates nearby finally they kill off Watson.
But it's at a heavy cost, 3 buybacks.
Make it four. Forty-five K lead for Yandex.
The game goes on.
If he hadn't died there on Profit, he would have had a thousand gold per minute.
Oh, he still does, actually, because obviously...
Yeah, casual.
A thousand fifteen GPM, I know.
Nine thousand damage. That's gonna drop below it, though.
But he has net worth.
it's just like what is there really to talk about here I actually think that
we're playing the fight quite well it's just the numbers are so ridiculously
in the enemy favor that you just don't have to damage the fact that socks it
doesn't even die there
Tell the score and here it comes. 1, 2, 3, 4.
Oh my god, those are double for it.
Double or 1400 for it?
Hmm.
Very.
They do kill em.
Yeah, they have great pain stuns.
If he got like three seconds there to hit stuff, he might have won.
But 1v3.
Yeah.
They had to do a nice layering.
No, Karatich, about to finish his Daedalus, but you are a long ways away from being able
to compete against Watson at this moment.
Save?
A little cheeky play here from Malvi will be punished.
Oh, he had a gem, yank.
He did by the axle.
Oh, Daedee.
Yep.
Everyone's doing this now, huh?
That the cat's holding it, yeah.
So how much strength does triant have right now, I guess we can't see that because we buy back
Oh, there we go, so he has
107 strength
So he gets a hundred seven strength from casting old
Far from yeah casting old
What's hundred seven strength like two gauge be you get cleave now some part
If it didn't do that at all, it would be bought the same amount of time as by supports, that you could remove that line from the item and it wouldn't matter.
It would matter for other game lovers. On to the high ground, best boom go, they're gonna lose their clockwork, we'll get one in return for the AoE Doom now right on top of GPK again.
With the stun coming out from DM, Rosh actually takes part in killing off GPK.
Doesn't matter how they die, the game ends regardless.
Yandex take game number two with a ginormous lead.
46k to end it.
These games are just not close.
Feels like for this entire playoff stage, most of the games that we've seen have been relatively one-sided,
and this one no different.
different. The previous game, also no different. Although the curve of that was a little bit
unusual with an early loss into a stomp, but a Yandex with a much, much better idea here for how
to address Batum. I think, I mean it's easy to say the MVP of this game is Watson, right,
but I think the pick is just a really, really nice tool against how Batum play,
and I would not be surprised to see them just remove it from the pool for the next game. I
I think that was the biggest issue. The profit plus tree in combination. These two heroes are going to go up in stock for sure
Yeah, so Watson ends the game 20 and 2 and with another rampage in this series
Will we get a third for game number three Matt?
That's not up to me. That's up to the players
They've got to bring their a game in game number three in fact
I want to see a rampage from both teams in game three. It can happen
Without these games we're going, you don't know what the hell's happening.
GPK gets a rampage in game one, Watson gets a rampage in game two, now they go to do it out, and they both have to get a rampage in game two.
If they don't both get a rampage, I'm not showing up on the next panel.
Well you also got the rampage prediction wrong, yeah it was one.
You said GPK, you said GPK.
I did say how many rampage.
GPK, GPK, GPK, GPK, GPK, and he did not get a rampage in half.
He did not deliver today.
Today? This game. That was a little too far for me.
I said today, he has been delivering today, just not this game.
Yeah, this game was, um, it was not it for him.
I felt like he should have done a little bit more.
I mean, I don't know what your thoughts were because you weren't on the pre-panel,
but the storm pick, you know, he was 18-picked.
I think it's pretty good. Overall, in Invoker, you should have a good early game.
But then he didn't get the first rune. He died.
Like, I expected a little bit more because this, this hurt him quite a lot, did it not?
It did. I think it's pretty rare you see people get outplayed on their own sequences,
but to be honest, that's what this is.
Like, it's 3v3. You're choosing to take this dive from Beppum.
You're willingly walking into this rune fight, and then you lose the fight.
To me, that's a misread of the situation that I almost never see in this team.
They so rarely lose these rune fights and it does matter.
Storm, you lose the galvanized charges, you lose your momentum and it adds up.
And then on the foot side, Watson, he is all over the place.
There's momentum like crazy coming out from the carry
and you just don't have the response on Storm.
Now, he was definitely him this game.
I think almost like this Nature's Prophet, he's in the top area.
And like, I think overall too, like you could tell that in both these games,
there's like some moments of pressure.
Like even here, this is, it is uncharacteristic,
But you can't you will see it happen in these five pressure games like that boom they're going for this tower
They're already down 4,000 gold
But you're doing this against a tree and protected tree and thrives off of these plays you want to defend your tier ones
You want to be in the tree line you delay the tower you overgrowth all of them
So I think that this around the annex they definitely like they woke up because in game one in the mid game
They did not do any of these moves, but in this game they were on the money
It went from being unbelievably passive on the side of yandex after winning lanes to being all over the map and again
we talked about the Nature's Prophet having some changes in the letter patch that came out yesterday
reporting and we're talking how is that really going to impact the fact that those effects are
now global for his little tree ant. Yeah it's a ton of damage you can see it in these fights he is
chunking people not just him but also the trees and it looks really really good this game has great
synergy with tree ant center and mentioned it when they came off but I think this this adaptation in
the draft was really really good from Yandex taking the tree ant super early and stealing away from
And then the Spherian response to the endying is really good.
It's a classic counter because you have all these trees and they just kill the tombstone super fast.
You're everywhere, you're really mobile and you abuse the map against a hero that's really clunky.
I think this is a really smart adaptation and I think it's a pattern from Yandex
that they're very good at adapting from a loss and figuring out the draft problems that made them lose the prior game.
Are we going to see a resurgence of Nature's Prophet? This is another Nature's Prophet patch.
It's definitely a very playable hero. Even if you look at the GPM, he was pulling alchemist numbers at some point.
New York 1k GPM and he was like not just farming he was also in all the moves. He does need purpose unless your team plays on full tempo
Which I believe Yanbex can but I would assume they mainly want this hero when it makes a lot of sense for like the offline matchup
Yeah, I think if you you don't want to jump the gun and start first picking this hero
I think to me that wasn't the crux of it
Like I think a lot of turret carries can work the TA we banned second phase almost every game
So you'll get this hero second phase if you want it
I think to me the big one is this tree if you first ban it if you first pick it
how that hero was looked at in the series because it won both games. It looked really powerful both games.
And Kethelman and the clockwork compared to this tree, it did not have the same impact. And this man right here, he
91% kill participation on carry. It's Nature's Prophet, but even still, that is crazy.
And it's also like in there were a lot of the moves where he's not the one like joining later.
He's teeping in very early and there's a there's a big difference between these moves.
It means that he's already looking at it.
He's like also potentially calling for it because there's a lot of players who are like, oh Nature's Prophet,
like it's just a follow-up hero, but when you're really on the money when you understand how much you can push like forward
You can actually be the starter of the entire play and when you look at this entire game
I think this is absolutely the case. He had perfect itemization
He wasn't every play he needed to be and I think the buffs that we talked about it absolutely showed like this gpm
Is not normal yet normally when I think of nature's prophet. I think of janitor, right?
He's just there to clean up after everyone else. He's there to have those last hits
So what position was Watson in where you could feel that he had the comfort to be the one sort of
Second in right here as soon as he sees his sport go
He's more than confident enough to join as well
It happened a lot
I think on the tier one towers initially that they went to but even later in the game
There was this fight on like the gate where he teeped with the ages and he just knows that bad boom were there
And if I tip in they're gonna go on me, but he knows this will never be bad for him
But this is purely him like initiating the fight himself. Yeah, I fully agree
I think it's a really good point and I remember playing with Watson whenever he plays his nature profit hero
He is very he's very proactive and he's involved in the game and I totally agree about the communication of it
Especially I think like when people who are bad at inter-profit play this hero you're passive and you don't communicate that much
You're just sort of looking and everyone else is everyone else's job to make fights and I'll just keep you in what it happens
I think the amazing Furion players are the ones who are there the one saying I have TP look at this guy here
And you're the ones calling the place because you're just farming if you're like dawnbreaker almost
Yeah, but you're able to start the fight in more of a way because like I don't they don't look coiling blade
Or you port behind them and you hit them the whole way like where you TP when?
And there's a lot of skill into this hero about the fights and the way that happens.
And I think, I totally agree that I think Watson, you can see that he's not just like a cog in the machine.
He is the machine.
It did so much for the team, but as well, that last pick being Invoker,
because you were a little bit worried that maybe the index lineup becomes a bit too greedy,
that you're not really sure if this is going to be the superstar of a last pick,
but CJ did fantastic with it.
Oh, he delivered. I think he did way more than I thought he would.
He had like one little oopsie where he ran down the lane and then died later,
But yeah, it happens but early game it was clean. It was nice
They won like the initial rune fight and overall when this guy plays this hero
He just does a lot of good things like he had nice rotations
Maybe this one isn't like super difficult, you know, they attack you down bottom
You can TP there and have a good turn play but CJ he cook
Yeah, it's it's really clutch the heat the spells he has invoked the fact that he has tornado pre-invoked and then he
He doesn't even invoke it there
He has deafening blast and tornado pre-invoked before he tepees ready for this
Like if they don't if it doesn't have those exact spells and they will not get the storm kill
The I don't know. It's the guy will die right beforehand six seven kill percentage. I think it was that's a good one
He he he was owning
He's really good in this hero and if you don't trample this hero early and you don't pressure his tower and like own him
The hero is just super powerful a farms really fast and the scaling is it's honestly not okay
Especially when you're as confident on it as he is
It's also they they've already been doing this like earlier in the tournament
They have like two hero combos that are very toxic to play against, like even if you think about it from Bedpoom's perspective
when they have to play the map at this like in this game
There's a tree and running around placing like you know with a shard giving vision and just being in this
There's tree and pushing waves
There's force birth pushing ways and it's just overall very difficult to play so I think Bedpoom going to next game
I fully agree this tree and protector is like on the top of my list like both the kez and the tree
Need to be thought about a little bit more. Yeah, because I don't think should go through
I think if either team gets it, it's a big problem. Yeah, I mean there's one here
I thought that maybe didn't really fit into the Yanex's lineup as well as some of the others, which is the Doom
I feel like this hero
It looked really good later
But I think early on there's a bit of a weird period where he goes for radiance instead of like drum blink
And when you look at Yanex's heroes as his profit, it's an invoker
It's two follow-up heroes and if Doom is buying radiance and farming
Then there's a weird downtime period where Yanex is ahead early
They had great lanes and then they kind of start feeding some kills and if you look at dooms in the tower right now
It's it's really greedy. I don't like that one. He's still 3000 gold away from radiance
He's got no lawn. He's got the bracers and soul rank
It's gonna be a long time before he's actually a participant in the game
And I think if that one are a little bit cleaner on these rune fights, especially they don't mess up and fall behind
Then I think there's a wall where this greed can be punished. Maybe it's like some drums blink
I think could have been cool or maybe even like a BKB later because you don't really need like radiance
I know that other people buy it, but I don't really get it like your late game is already secured
You're already owning like the early to mid game so you can kind of play off of that
So, yeah, I think DM got to activate the brains so it's not necessarily the doom pick
You could see elements in which yeah, I understand that being drafted that it's the fact that
His group was going towards the radiance and it's like the rest of your lineup actually kind of needs you to participate because if
Beboo ended up bringing five to the runes then your team is gonna be one suffering. Yeah, it's definitely something to keep in mind
I mean it works out this game and they win
But I also think that Beth and we're playing a little bit slow a little a little less sharp
Do we normally see them there was that mid tower dive where they think met mega overextended feed?
And so I think it wasn't their their best performance was a little sloppy and you get away with something that it's hard to gauge
Sometimes in Dota like you win and you were owning at the end of the game felt really strong
So everything's fine
but sometimes there's stuff onto the surface that needs to be fixed that wasn't it wasn't quite right and
It's hard to tell those things and so I think especially when you win games like this
It's important to look at your draft look at your gameplay your builds was anything that felt weirder off and self-adjust for the next game
Even though you want I think that is what makes you win a series makes you win a tournament is the adjustment even when you win
What do you think motivates them as well? Why are you talking about this adjustment? But what at the end of the day?
Do you think motivates them?
I'm to win
This winning but then I like sometimes it's added latest to it
It's not it's not always as straightforward as like oh, I'm a winner people are innately competitive sure
I mean obviously there's I think also like just the emotional aspect of I think the fact also if you're
Dm you did win this game, but I think off of the back your build isn't that amazing
I think there's also the history that he has played against some of these players before he's even played with them on a team
I think there's like a lot of I mean it's a lot of like emotional stuff that goes into it, too
Like you want to feel good and like the next game you play pump yourself up and just go with that
She's saying a little bit of beef could motivate someone to want to win. Oh, absolutely
You can have so many reasons to motivate your beef. That's a good one
Yeah, the reason why I ask is because again yesterday I mentioned that we've been running a little bit of the in-studio
minigame going around. A lot of people participating players, talent alike.
Yesterday we awarded our day number one winners and today we want to award our winners of yesterday's minigame.
I think that is true, isn't it?
I think that's true still.
True?
Are you sure?
No.
It's false.
When did they make it normal again?
Put it against normal.
It must be from Butospeak.
No.
What?
False.
That sounds like a funny innate.
It's false, but you never know with these questions.
You can use it while inside a Kronosphere.
That's false.
Well, it depends.
Who's inside a Kronosphere?
Is it Void or is it me?
Void.
Void can.
Yeah, so it's true.
So who are you?
No, you can't use anything.
Talking about falling up.
What? Oh my, I thought you was talking
about the voice perspective.
This is just bait.
Last time is the best time to win.
True.
Okay, true.
Last time was the best time to win.
That's true.
Do you want to play false?
Last time is the truth.
That's the truth.
A total of 127 heroes.
I think that's right.
Oh my, 127?
I think there's more.
No, that's pretty true.
I feel like this might be true.
Is it that many?
I don't think it's less than that.
That's true, I do know that for a fact.
Oh, wonderful.
It's true.
I'm so bad.
profit isn't intelligence hero that's also false yes she is I don't think they're
universal no oh they're you know are you telling me DP is universal it's universal
yes what are you what is wrong with you
her mother is universal hero that's false she's a Jedi she is false she was she
He definitely was for a bit.
Bro, she's an agility.
Oh my gosh, she's agile.
Oh my god, did they change her back?
She used to be universal.
I don't play brood, I'm not disgusting.
Primal Beast deals extra damage to towers?
No.
Yeah, he does, that's his name, right?
No.
That would be silly, that would be silly.
That would be silly.
Don't remove that, that was colossal.
What?
17?
That's not that bad.
I feel like we did awful.
That was hard.
It's so bad.
You know what?
Oh!
That's good babe, let's make out now.
Oh, I don't know what was on your chest, Bob.
Oh, let's do that.
Ugh!
It's bad.
18.06 is bad.
Suck it, Kazzy.
What the fuck?
That's so hostile.
Bro, you literally roasted us.
You're like, you and Alex teamed up, and you came lost.
First of all, we didn't come lost in Day 1.
You were not on the leaderboard on Day 1.
OK, but we didn't come lost until we put our try hot pants on
and suck it.
Well, the thing is, you won, and therefore you
get a super cute hoodie.
But the thing is, actually, without me roasting you,
you wouldn't have tried that.
you wouldn't even have this hoodie. Do you want to rip it in half? Do you want half of it?
I'll win my own hoodie tomorrow. Excellent, I got my own. And this feels somewhat rigged because
Quinn won yesterday. How do all the talents win the coin toss? Okay, there's no footage of it.
Can I just say this? There was no coin toss because we did technically tie with Dave and Bulk,
I believe they did together as well. They went for Alex and sorry, Rhea and Saved did rock,
paper scissors and she goes I'm gonna go rock and he's like okay and so then she
actually goes rock and he just goes scissors. Rock paper scissors is a skill
game. It is. It is. You never start with scissors. Why? I don't know. I always win
when you go rock. Is that a bad opening? I feel like statistically speaking it is
something psychological. Maybe it is that. Look we can look at the psychology though
about our matchup here. It's our upper bracket finals but boom and Yandex a
rampage in each game, one game apiece for the teams here too and so Trian protectors
is where you guys are looking at your eyes. What gets let through then? What needs to
be put in place for Trian to get banned?
I would need to think about the first phase bans.
Lundrude, Pogby, Cuddle, SF, Kes, Timber.
I think Timber is maybe a bit debatable.
Yeah.
Timber.
Timber.
Timber.
Timber.
Timber.
Timber.
Timber.
Timber.
They're very game-defining. If you leave Beastmaster, now it's a Beastmaster game and you have to be prepped for that.
Same thing with Kautle. Both teams are so good at this hero.
Shadowfiend, I think Watts is too good at it.
Don't give that one.
No, no, that's a big one.
Please, no. But the love of humanity.
So, I think Timbersaw and Mies sounds like the one that is the most removable of all of those.
But even then, you don't feel confident.
No, Timbersaw's fine.
Out of those, it's the best removal for sure.
And then it's also, it depends like, who's first pick?
And do they jam up the tree first pick, which I think you can.
Same with Ceds, like if Idol of those heroes are in, those are the ones you should look at to take.
Okay, we're gonna find out all of those aspects, whose first pick, what's gonna get banned,
what's gonna get let through, because we'll get our game at number three, draft.
game three here the winner goes to the grand finals the other will be playing in the lower
bracket tomorrow waiting for either Aurora or LGD there and so many questions about where
you place the priority now that we do know how our teams are going to be faring up you
said Timbo should get let through a tree and there's just no argument at all for either
team line in 3rd.
Yeah, I think you can leave Trident, but I think you need a response that makes sense.
I think that's probably why the Timbersaw was banned last game because of the Trident.
It's one of the better heroes against that hero.
You need something that gives you ways to push waves in easily because Trident is so
annoying in the mid game and sneaking around and hunting you that if you can push the waves
in easily and have some ghost push, then suddenly a lot of that hero's pick-off potential is
nullified and he's not so scary anymore.
I would also hope that if Yandex run into something like Game 1,
because in Game 1 they had a very good position in the game,
but they're making... It was a little strange,
and sometimes you need to respect what the enemy draft is slowly building towards.
You know, there was the mid-layer Ember with a Flameguard and people getting more tanky,
so sometimes you need to respect that people are getting tanky.
Can you still kill them?
But if you can, you absolutely need to go for it,
because they did drop the speed a little bit in Game 1,
but I hope that with the wind they just had in Game 2,
that they can take the momentum into the third game,
and just continue to play clean, because what they showed us just now, it was very, very solid.
Yeah, and I think from...
from Bed Boom's side, they didn't adapt that much from Game 1 to Game 2.
And so I look for both teams to...
You really need to think about these drafts.
I think the best teams you can see when they're super on point,
because they ban just the right things and understand the direction that the series is moving.
That is a really big thing, especially as you get really deep into a tournament.
And so I think both teams, during these breaks, you sit back and you think,
Okay, what what actually matters if tree has been the progression so far
There's a way to counter that is there a way to give them the tree and beat it
Do we need to ban it and leave something else like you have to think on a grander scale?
What would be your answer to tree?
What is at least the octop not necessarily specific here, but octop of what breaks away
Trans gameplay I think being able to ransack his towers early
It's kind of nice and also when you take over an area of the fight that you can continue to fight in it
It's one reason why a hero like Phoenix traditionally has been quite good against the hero
You can first of all lane well into him if you do and if you start to fight someone and you drop an egg
It's very hard for tree into that counter play it. I think another
Decent option a lot of time is to pick better late game and to pick just a very solid sort of wall type of lineup
Tree is not that good at making aggressive plays. Well, like he's decent at gate ganking the tower
But he's terrible around runes in mid
So if you can have a really strong fortified safe one that he can't attack there
Well now we kind of can't make any moves and you can play a game where now you farm better
I'm sure he's sitting on a side and armoring his towers, but you don't care because you have better late game and you're scaling
There's a small tech issue by the way
That is why you're not seeing the draft right now
While we're still talking about the potential counters for trick is yet the two options are either you ban it or you let it through
And know you have to have it get an issue
What am I trying to say a way to deal with this issue gonna make him not be an issue not be an issue he will have me
He will have you will have me
He will be having issues have
Trieby do just like me. We're good. We we got to keep that up. Let's look that you didn't everyone
We're looking it in look it in
Let's also looked in double looking. I think
I don't know if there's options to this kez hero as the other one because they led it through before
The other thing with the first pick second pick is a bit tricky
There's some mind games sometimes of if you're gonna leave tree, okay, then maybe
They they just take it right so then if you're leaving multiple heroes
Then you have to think about which one are they gonna take say you leave tree and a kez now
Okay, it's tree good against kez is kez good against tree
How does the draft progress and so that is oftentimes the response which every team is second pick say tree is now first pick priority
Yeah, okay
Maybe we give a trade here instead and you have to consider those trades
And so there's a lot of there's a lot of mind games that go into this because maybe they call your bluff and they leave it
Or you're wrong about the matchup. There's there's a lot of thought there
Do you ever feel that a support for a core trade is as impactful?
Like you're more than willing to take the support in that trade off?
It to me it depends a bit more on just overall strength of the heroes or like how they match up
against each other. So I think it's not as reliant on whether it's like support core or core core.
So when do they have to interact in the game for you to feel that it's an even trade? Is it a lane
thing? Is it a mid game? Is it team fights? Is it the high ground push?
That's a funny question because it's very... it's so different from game to game.
And also hero to hero even.
Yeah, and I think also it depends on the way the series has been going in terms of game length or what's been important.
Sometimes it'll be like the lane matchup is really important because teams are just getting ruffled stomped and it feels impossible to last.
And other times it will be the lane doesn't matter that much because for whatever reason people are not really able to push it.
And so game matchup is really what matters.
what matters. In this game, I feel like what's been important is who's getting ahead, who's
got the easier way to fight and sort of push the map and keep things going. And so I think
that's the kind of stuff you're looking at in this series. Because for instance, Yannix,
I felt like they had pretty good scaling in game one, but they kind of just got ransacked
and they didn't actually get to use it. So to me, that says, okay, maybe scaling is
not what matters. What matters is how old we fight against them.
Which is also why, like on that note, I like that they did ban the Largo in game two. I
I mean, we're Largo haters and I only like this hero, it's at my...
Yeah, a little bit, yeah.
Okay, there you go, Quinn.
Agreed.
Same for me.
I'm a Largo hater.
We are.
We can't think of a collective we.
Collectively, we hate the frog.
But there are a few requirements where this hero can work.
If you have some co-op storm, they had Ember in game one and I think with what Quinn is
saying is absolutely correct, like Yandex, they kind of got ran over and I think that
Largo, he doesn't able to sign actually, that's how the guy wants to play.
He farms for 15 minutes and then it's go time.
You go with your Ember, you go with your Storm, GTK just runs around, he has all the buffs in the world.
So I do like that Yannick still, they still respected this hero.
Cause while Largo, you know, we don't really love him, most heroes in Dota, they have a place.
Right place, right time.
Yeah, but then I think also what we're saying about the tree really enables that too,
because the fact that they're holding onto that tier one towers for so long, even though Yannick's win lane,
you're not comfortable enough invading into a radiant triangle, because all of that tier one towers is still up.
So you're sitting in Yoha for the map, and you're just gonna have to farm it.
And you're just gonna have to wait for them to essentially come to you.
And the other thing that you could maybe abuse with the enemy team picking Triant,
is that it narrows the carry pool at least a little bit.
There's not many melee carries you wanna pick with Tree,
so you can at least kind of prepare for like,
okay, it's gonna be a Tree plus turret type of lane,
because they work really well both in the lane, but also in the game.
Yeah, it feels tough right now to actually beat those lanes.
is what makes this tree pick tricky. In some other instances, if you know they're going to pick a
turret, you can exploit that very easily. But for whatever reason right now, it feels very difficult
to actually beat those lanes. It's very rare. I think you see the melee plus the draw or the SF
or the Furion. These lanes have just tended to win throughout the tournament. I think that's what
sometimes makes, you know, something like a Tram Protector move to broken is the other stuff
around it or the circumstances of the tournament. Alright, our draw off is back on the way here
And it's gonna be Yandex with that first pick for themselves. So back to similar in game one in terms of pick order there
So the beast puck Bane going back onto the ban list along with loan druid and shadow fiend
So Yandex they just re-roll the same bands correct as in game one
Yes, these puck Bane. Okay, exactly. So same
I want to see how BB go about this because they're also just running back their same bands
Of course, I mean they got the case. They were very happy for that
Yeah, so I don't see Yandex going for the absolute same opener that we saw in Game 1.
Like the first pick snap, obviously, they had a lead in the game,
but if you were to run all of these scenarios back, I think snap is a very replaceable hero.
When was snap picked in the last game?
Right here. It was first pick.
It was right here.
And you talking about the last game?
Yeah, the last game.
It was picked out of second phase.
Okay.
So they're going to take the tree instead.
That leaves the snap open for Beppin, which is a hero that I haven't seen them get in a long time
because they were just crushing everyone with it.
Yeah.
So that begs the question, will they play at mid?
Because I feel like the zero mid has looked kind of bad
and has looked the best when I've seen Sox to play it.
Yes.
But BB's snap is on kind of a different level.
And so I'm not sure if they will take it here or not.
What will they do?
Because this is uncharted territory for the last week or so.
There are multiple options.
And here now I think it just depends on what do they feel like.
Because obviously Yandex have two bands to follow it up.
There's Kez and the pool.
You mentioned the snap, which they're insanely good with.
insanely good with. There's also other heroes that are like semi in the pool for later,
whether it's on Timber, but they'll just go with the bird.
Yeah, bird is the word. I think this makes sense. I think it's higher priority than
Sapphire. This hero is just crazy. There's no counters. And the Andex, they kind of got
owned by it last time, although they did do very well in the lane with the axe. So if
you have stuff that's better at fighting, then maybe it's okay. Maybe they feel like
they have enough things to shut it down in the lane and it's just like, okay, we messed
We gave them a good fight or two, and then the bird gets online I could well if yandex are looking for
Acts which they might there are other heroes that be be will be looking at absolutely like some winter wyvern
I think winter wyvern case lane has looked
Disgustingly good. Also if I don't know if I'm super afraid of acts
I while he's very good for the lane tree and acts they're very good in like the early game
You amplify acts as laning but you offer zero follow-up damage
I don't think these heroes interact very much like later on in the game when the actual door the game starts to be played
Yeah, it's true. I mean for for 18 on Yennex, I think you're already looking at a Voker again potentially
I think you want you don't waste the kite this bird because killing him straight up is very difficult
And you want to be able to play a longer fight where you don't need to over commit because I think he is
Just too powerful whenever that's the case. So being able to space him, kite him, these types of things
I think are really valuable and like you said you have tree and protector already, you know, you want fall damage
You don't want some Storm Spirit type maven unless you've got really high damage carry and supports
I mean, even there used to be like a combo, like more often.
Qwap, I feel like has kind of died out.
I know the hero's got nerfed a lot,
but Tree Qwap has always been also very oppressive.
Like, she's already good in the lane.
You Tree armor her, she gives you like infinite damage
throughout, like, the mid-game teamfighting.
Yeah, definitely an option.
For Betboom...
I mean, Keslees, you are very open.
That's why the hero's so nice.
You can... you don't need damage.
Stuns are nice, but the hero also has plenty to disable.
Like, Key, he just gives you so much.
TA has not been banned in the second phase, unlike the last two games.
I'm not saying they're gonna jump the gun on Yandex and pick it up.
It is an option.
It's what the Batwom need to be thinking about in their next three picks.
Because you know that Yandex can absolutely close the phase with that one.
Yeah, and I can carry it to you, Yandex.
We're talking about it too.
Absolutely.
It's good with Tree.
And I think it's good against Kez too, for the same reasons that if he, you know,
if he rushes in and starts doing all those Kez things, you can just blink back
or you can trap him and swallow him down.
You can pike him away. You've got a lot of tools to kite this hero.
I think kiting him is often your best bet.
It's also TA is not a weak hero at fighting in her own tier 1 if you have a good lane.
If you can set up some traps around the gate on your own tier 1 tower,
you're also removing a little bit of what Kez kind of wants to do,
which is to win his lane, go through the gate, go on the other side.
They just jam in double core.
It's an interesting progression.
They lost the lane with Kez to Axe in the game 1, and now they say,
They say, okay, we think they're gonna take the axe again.
So let's just take it ourselves,
because we feel like that's the only answer they have
to Kes in the lane.
The slaughter ban also is maybe somewhat indicative.
Like we think slaughter are actually their best options.
We're gonna totally block them out.
We don't think they have any good options against Kes now.
I think they play the mental game.
They know Watson doesn't want to lane up against the Naxx.
That's true.
They heard it.
I think for Yandex, I still see snapping just very good
for them, I think overall.
Unless they want to go like a little more,
maybe nuclear on counter play,
Because both acts can as I think they rely on like their initial goal a little bit, but
So I think here they just need to weigh out if you want like a semi save maybe with some SD
It's not a hero we see very often and again the support who is ultra awkward
If you just want to keep it stable and chill I think Sapphire is ultra good
Yeah, it is very nice synergy with Tree
I'm not sure what Yenix are going to look for on carry
Because I feel like Treant as the 5 lineage, the Bethbom Offlaner with Axe, you're going to get some random 4 hero range, 4 hero for save, who's going to click you constantly.
If you pick something like TA, you basically got 2 melee heroes and they're going to beat you up. I worry for that save lane potentially.
What can you pick there? I mean, it's like one of the main strengths of Axe as a hero overall.
He's just so good in the lane. He swings the support matchup like no other Offlaner.
You pop one battlehunger on the 5v4, beats the shit out of him, free lane.
Yeah, it really does work like that, because now you're out of HP, and then suddenly the focus starts turning to the carry.
So because the supports can't trade, now the carry starts getting beaten up, and the small camp is blocked,
and then now suddenly you've got really big issues very fast.
And it goes from a 50-50 lane to like 90-10, which is like unplayable.
That's why if they want to worry more about the lane, it is a lot more risky.
But I think that's where other heroes like
Drowranger can shine just because you still can click back this up and you can like help your tree end
But then it's only if you also feel comfortable playing into like these two cores because it's a very skill-based matchup
Like playing Drowranger in this game against Axe and Kez and in game one
I think Watson felt too great about his performance on that hero
No, I don't think so. I think it would be kind of dubious if they ran it back. He looked super uncomfortable. He did
This is an interesting one, because I don't think Enigma is good against Kess.
I think it's generally straight up bad, because you have a really good way to kill the Eidolons.
That is often times the biggest indicator of if something is good against Enigma,
especially in lane, is kind of kill Eidolons.
Almost nothing else matters. They hear so much about that spell,
and he's got the Echo Slash, which is pretty good at killing them, especially if you have another spell to help.
So, this to me is like, DM needs to really know this matchup and play it well, because now you're playing as Wyvern too.
Yeah, I'm a little bit surprised. Okay, so you get the, you get Marana Axe, which of course is a very good dual lane.
You get the Wyvern, which, if you've watched this tournament, you've seen them play this combo.
It is an insanely nasty lane, because Kez loves just being topped off with HP all the time around. It's also very good with Axe.
I think the Enigma is okay against Kez in the lane. I think once you have level 2, I don't see, at least doesn't insta-kill them, but with Splinter Blast as well.
There's a lot of like small dynamics happening in this lane if they keep killing your fresh idolons all the time
You can't get cooked, but the snap in English should you should have fighting opportunities in that lane
But yeah, okay, I mean I think this invoker helps yeah
Marana why weren't there they're really bad at like sort of focusing mid heroes down you think about a press of supports like hoodwink or
Lion as to some extent where you can get in the jungle and you hunt this guy stuff like Bane
where now you're camping the evoker, you're in his woods, you're being oppressive.
Winter Riven and Marana, they're very follow-up supports in a way.
They're not the kind of supports that stand in the woods and are intimidating.
So if Invoker can actually get to a point in the game where he can play,
well now there's not much stuff that can gank him on by the moment.
He can play off of the spells, he can play a slower fight,
and abuse his beef in the front line, so there's some nice stuff there, but it's...
I don't know, this Enigma worries me.
It's a bit...
There's a lot of awkwardness. If you just look at the Yandex heroes together,
They're okay like on their own, but tree enigma already very clunky. I think invoker too like he needs some time
He needs other stuff to be set up. I'm also wondering like what's the best way for them to protect themselves like 40 invoker matchup
I think BB you already banned out the pango. I think their heroes like
potentially
Ember I think that could work quite well. Yeah, just something cheap that your Marana can play through is pretty nice
Yeah, I generally don't suggest this here, but maybe it's something like kanka is also kind of cool
I've always liked this matchup into invoker
Maybe you're a bit weird, damage output-ish with Axe later.
But you've got X-Arrow, maybe it's cool.
No, I think that's the right type of hero.
I also think Yandex's heroes are...
Like, they're not that tanky.
So, you don't need some super high damage.
How much damage you need is not a set amount.
It's based on sort of how tanky the enemy team is.
And if you look at Yandex,
Snapmaker is pretty easy to kill.
Same thing with Enigma and Invoker in terms of actual DPS needed.
So, it doesn't have to be the highest DPS stuff.
I totally agree with the line of thinking that you want to enable your win over wherever in the bottom.
What do those heroes want? They want a hero that goes in and helps them set up on stuff because they are more follow-up heroes.
And so whether it's the Kunko, like you said, the Ember, this band, Void Spirit, something along those lines.
Because you don't need the most damage ever.
The Necro band is kind of interesting.
We have seen, of course, the Necro into the Axis are good. Even Necro into Kez, I think, is pretty cool.
So I haven't seen Watson play it much, but that could have kind of cooked in this draft.
So that's a very heads-up band from BB.
Yeah, if Watson was more on it, I could even see a world where it's a better 18-picked than a Boker.
Mm-hmm. It's true
Cuz it would fully secure their safe land which now lets you play through other lanes a little more because now
You've still got this question of can your safe land withstand this axe Marana
What what option is there that lets you do that because if not now you've got a lot of volatility
Because I can tell you Yandex's heroes, especially enigma invoker. They hate playing from behind
So you've got a lot of burden on this safe land that it has to be solid
If it's not you can have some you can get stonked
You need to fight back at least a little bit like it because if you get owned exactly the thing you just said it's gonna happen
And like it's gonna bleed into other lanes very quickly
What's the classic it's ballsy
Okay, I mean I'll say what Yennex do really well is they kite really well they can malifits a guy they've got a boker
Spells the kite. They've got ta traps. It's a lot of vision. It's a lot of poking and prodding and that's called
But you don't have much own feel how much stuff it starts and you look at bet boom
It's a much more classical lineup. They've got fight start. They've got follow-up. They've got triple melee cores
which generally is more solid than triple ranged and
and I think overall it was a more well rounded lineup.
Yeah, I fully agree. I think the Bedboom just have a very...
It's simple, it's nice, it's good, but there's a reason why
these heroes work, not just on their own, but also together.
I think Yannix, they need a lot of...
This game might rely on like individual excellence and like a lot of small things
to like work out, because I think the enigma of Snapplane, very volatile.
In my mind, in terms of how this can go, the safe lane too.
I think your tree, like Watson, Malady, they need to be able to hold their ground as long as possible.
I think they will get pushed out eventually, but the longer they can delay, whether it's half a minute, one minute,
it's gonna be a big deal, because they need to be able to push back and not get owned in the first couple minutes.
It brings me concerns of game number one, where we saw Distragative 2 a decent start on the side of Watson,
and then just really wanted to sit top, play safe, have a lot of farm.
A TA has played like that way many times, I mean, before, but that's where Betboom could exploit it.
They went from 0 to 100. They won game one because of that. Is there a look that we could see play at similar?
There's definitely a lot of pressure pushing on to them
And I think Yanix will have to be super resilient
They'll need to be aggro because I think to be very very skilled and clutch in these early windows because there is pressure on them
They need to get out the out the gate running so that they can get to the point where they can kite and play a skillful game to me
This is a very much a finesse draft versus we're going at your head
Yeah, especially like with the like the enigma snap offline dueling
I think the MSX had a lot of work to do because they need to take pressure away from their invoker and their own safe lane.
If none of the Bedboom heroes have to look to their own safe lane and they can just look onto Watson on the TA,
I think they're gonna be in a very tough spot because Bedboom's draft I think is a lot better.
A lot of pressure on Yennex, but it doesn't mean it's impossible.
It's just an uphill battle, something that they've been able to thrive in before.
Now I just really wonder are we gonna get that luxury of another rampage in game number three?
Either way the winner goes on to the grand final and the other will have to drop down to the lower bracket
game three the decider between yandex and betboom to see who goes to the grand finals
and to put all the eggs in the basket here, Cinder, and they pick Konka.
Interesting.
I love to see that.
Very interesting.
I love the zero.
I think GPK plays it very well, but it is quite situational.
Yeah, OK.
The first of all, the panel were absolutely adoring the draft of that.
You have to sell me a Konka because you know how I feel.
Right.
feels very underwhelming in like 80% of the games that we've cast at least and maybe we're just bad luck.
That's quite very possible.
So there's a couple of things I'm looking for with Konka. First of all, do I have any combo with teammates?
Like, can they take advantage of the fact that I pull people back with X and in this one you have Arrow,
which is an obvious thing. You have X into call from Axe. So you're effectively giving Axe a lot of range,
like this, which is pretty cool.
So no blink needed.
Okay, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
It's also a decent hero with Wyvern. Again, because repositioning heroes is really powerful for Wyvern, whose ultimate is very much based on breaking formation of the enemy team.
So I think there's a lot of pros with that. Obviously, on the elite level, you're focusing a lot on lane-to-lane matchups.
Kunkka lanes very well into Invoker. He can kill the Forge Spirit with Cleave plus the Torrent, and just in general, last hits very well in the early waves.
Um, and one thing you can fall victim to when you run a mid-kunka is damage issues, because I think this hero, in most builds, kind of has a ceiling for how much damage it does.
Don't worry, you have Kez. Okay, that is not going to be a problem.
Yeah, so I do think they have a lot of the bases covered that I want to see Torna-kunka, so I like it too. I do.
Can I just be that guy? I like the index. It's draft a lot more, actually. That's why I'm not on panel.
You can be that. Oh, look, Quinn is always wrong.
So we'll see if this breaks the streak or not.
I think Enigma, like, we've talked about so many times against an entry,
both of these years against triple melee core sound incredible.
Like, you couldn't ask for a better setup in theory.
Yeah, you need to get there. You need to get there, though.
If you get to like game, I think the dire lineup is going to win the majority of the time.
I would agree with that.
There's some X factor in Winters course against Black Hole.
And technically, the circus call against Black Hole.
You have an amazing setup for Cataclysm,
which I know he doesn't go aggs very often on Chiris.
This might just be the game for him.
I think it is.
Um, yeah.
I would agree.
If the game gets slow enough, and Yandex do get there, I do favor them.
But I, even then, I don't think this is like, okay, they're just gonna win at 45 minutes
in less.
I don't, I don't think it's that slow.
I mean, that's what makes it tricky.
He's better than I have been on average, just the better team at this tournament.
But it is game three.
And what I do like about GPK on this Kunka is, if you think about how he played in game
Hope bloodthirsty wasn't the ember and how much impact he found with that
You can play kunkka in a similar vein where if your lane goes well, you can play very very fast
and be
Hungry around the map to find kills already seeing now against Chira how this lane matchup is very good
Kunkka has got invoker down to half HP when you play the x-word style when you start with x-word level one
Obviously your region not the best
Warming up missing the point on a static range creep happens to the best
I don't think he's trying to double fake him into running into it.
Yes.
The mind game is very strong.
Taurant always looks so stupid when the enemy just does not at all do what you want them to.
Remember when everybody thought Taurant would be the worst skill in the game when, uh, if you could see when somebody uses their mana?
Mm-hmm.
Oh, big damage.
Is he actually gonna kill him yet?
Under the tower.
Okay.
DK still pulling Chirra.
Has a CS advantage as well.
Let's see if Chirra can survive this lane overall.
It should get significantly harder when Cooke hits level 3.
The two points in Tidebringer lowering the cooldown by 3 seconds and increasing the splash range is when
Invoker starts really having a rough one.
Cooke in the bot lane. Nice scatterblast with a lot of idle on right-clicking Karatitch as well.
Able to surround him thanks to the Coolden Brace, which had him at full HP, but look at his HP now.
I gotta be careful how you use that here.
It is very good against enigma though if you cast it during malifas you can just outlast the entire Malifas stun with
another stun of your own and just heal so the Adolams can't do damage, but
Sets it up. Thanks to the arrow. This is gonna be first blood going away of me arrow
Meow on that axe
Beasting it up already. They were not expecting the berserkers cold point level two there clearly
Yeah, if I looked at this build, I'd be disgusted as well, because in Turbo you can't skill like this.
He'd be level 5 already, so it's fine.
GPK, I mean the CS is not crazy advantage yet, still early on obviously, but we'll see if that level 2 type ring will end up being the difference here in the mid lane.
I'm going to be back. I'm
going to be back. The Dm. The
Enigma specialists seen him
play this. Quite a few times.
He doesn't cast black hole all
too often. Listen. Let's see
if the doom and enigma games
back to back. I mean, you
didn't need to him last game,
so what can you say? He's got
any black hole this game. Yes,
I'll tell you that. And they
feel like enigma is it's not like the old days where you're just rushing blink bkb
linkins to deal with this a lot of times you just go for i mean we're seeing helm
the dominator at time like what what do you want to see on dm this this game uh he's going drum
which is what i would have suggested i think you want to have when you're when some of your lineup
is so greedy you need to have early tempo to compensate for the fact that you're running
invoker ta so then go drum into potentially one aura if there's an aura you like here i don't know if
This...
We just don't really see the aura that much between Pyke and Crimson, but...
Maybe that's not it, so you just go drums and then start thinking about the equally.
It is triple melee, cores you're going up against.
Axe obviously is a lot of peer damage, but the other two, good amount of physical.
I mean, even then, how much physical is Kunkka really?
I guess that's true. Eventually you just end up relying on both a lot.
Depends on his build.
You can go right-click Kunkka still. I think it has become increasingly viable over the last couple years with the talent changes.
But, I don't know, I just have a hunch that he's not going to go down that route.
What do you want to see? Like, Aggs type of deal?
If they want to play on the tempo, Aggs is a very strong early timing for mid-Kunkka.
It's a ton of extra damage and really strong AOE utility.
You'd have great heroes to set you up as well.
We talked about it from the perspective of Kunkka catches the enemy team for you, but
If axe calls, you land all your spells. If you curse, you land all your spells. If you hit an arrow, you land everything.
So I think playing into that could be quite strong here.
Xmark mid, here it comes. Arrow, arrow hits under the tier one tower and the Torrent is gonna connect as well.
trying to get to the other side of the ice while the fairy fires not enough save
that claims the life of Chira Jr. and that was pre ghost ship it's gonna be a
lot easier next time he could probably just stick around if they can get a
kill after the TP first now you have the snapfire socks that's place that way
every game this
Is that a wrestle?
Yeah.
I don't know.
But they have picked Snapfire every time.
Right.
Oh yeah.
Pure player game.
It's just some serious pressure on this tower, by the way.
For sure.
To get her to the bottom.
Okay.
Well, Snap gonna force him back.
Malady not gonna reveal himself quite yet.
Andix brought three heroes in just to make sure they don't lose their tower.
I'm in at 5.30.
So Akunka.
Of course, it's gonna open up plenty of space from Yero to enjoy some 1v1 time up top, which
when it comes to axe a lot of the time is 1v0 plus jungle.
True.
Well, now he's...
That's a snag's the shield, Rune.
See if GPK wants to go for axe.
The arrow does not hit.
It was a very long range one.
He's gonna dodge the torn as well, and now the TP is gonna be fine.
So wasted time for Bed Boon this time around.
uncharacteristically bad execution. Didn't he have Torrent off his own X mark?
Maybe it was on cooldown? Not sure. Like if he just Torrents there, the arrow's gonna hit and it's a hundred percent clean.
They had to hold as well, obviously. Yeah, there were plenty of ways to kill there.
Just trusted that the arrow would reach in time and save some mana. It did not happen.
The arrow gonna reach level six before Watson. Let's see if they have any plans up here.
Marana is on the way.
Watson gets the Lotus, seems like Miero forgot about it honestly, but he definitely got that for himself.
Yeah, it's a minute later too.
Yeah, it's a very late Lotus.
And a minute later from the second Lotus means that Wisdom Shrines are upon us and it's going to be a trade.
Nothing to write home about.
Trying to get a setup here onto Keratish, this will be a really good kill with the Enigma.
Has the drums, level 3 Eidolons.
No, they can't really find an angle yet.
And they seem painfully aware of it too, just the other thing.
Axe is obviously non-stop informing him that, yeah, well, Trann hasn't been tough for two minutes, so...
You guys figure it out.
No portification popped in. I don't think they're defending this, so...
It's gonna be an 8-minute...
Tier 1 tower for Best Boom.
Would not have seen this coming.
This is very, very early.
2k lead, 2-0 the score.
And imagine that top is next as a logical transition here if you go for some sort of smoke with the Konkei X-marked boat and
turn the TA killer with a dunk and then take that tower before the as established greedy line of the index can really respond.
They will be heavily
valuing playing around their enigma the strongest hero on the map for them. So this is highly unsurprising. They are
are posturing in this neighborhood, but of course,
that's when we'll not be giving them anything for free.
They know they're the stronger lineup right now.
And Soxa, he's getting slowed.
We'll get the cookie off, gets to the high ground,
Keratich, are you gonna continue to chase?
Oh, save has an Invisibru,
and he could get all sorts of information here.
And the Invisibru with a Malifist, Keratich,
can get some backup via Katom.
It's the second Splinter Blast not connecting at all.
Soxa, looks to be the sacrifice for Yandex.
And still, big rotation for Batboom.
Get a support.
Yeah, not the biggest of deals.
Gonna go straight back to mid with a TP to farm that out.
And of course, Axe did not move during all of this,
so that is going to be a nine minute blade mail
with phase boots coming out on the hero.
Game one.
Yeah, this is even better than what DM had in the first game.
Half a minute quicker, CS5 or 10 CS more.
So a completely free game on the X. Soxa, you just respawned.
It's not Soxa that they want, though. It's Watson. He's going to show.
Well, call is there with the play mount to follow GPK.
Oh, they didn't X.
It's coming. X was not cast until later, but they still have the numbers.
Surely Watson dropped. Regardless, gets dunked by Miro.
First death to the TA.
They did not anticipate that there was going to be a cookie there.
So, GBK just didn't want to waste the X mark.
One of those situations, though, maybe better safe than sorry, right?
The snapfire is missing. You can just... It's 50 mana.
What did they get there in the end?
And the tower now...
is also a goner.
So, things definitely going according to plan here for Bed Boom.
Ideally, they want to win the game more in the next 5 to 10 minutes.
I think if this just becomes a stalemate of sorts, a 2K, that's...
not good enough.
with the mid-crunker. Rushing BKB by the way on GPK. That's surprising. I thought either if he wanted
to scale there was a radiance angle or if he wanted to fight that was the X, but he's going for the
very... I mean this is also a fighting proposition as a build. I feel like we cast him at a prior
tournament a few months ago where he did the same thing. Yeah, this is why I hate...
he just didn't do anything basically yeah but you're right if they have like this i mean
both acts and cats are having great games if that continues the trajectory then this is perfectly
fun yeah but you can you can look at it from multiple angles right you can also be like well
we're owning so i can just get really strong yeah that's why we're seeing radiance on a lot of off
laners yeah okay you can definitely buy it it's not the best radiance game it's pretty good against
TA, but against invokers don't really mind it that much, invoker though, it doesn't really mind it.
But yeah, I find Kunkka to be one of the more interesting heroes to look at pro itemization
because I think for a lot of other heroes it's more or less set in stone when you buy a lot of the
time. Kunkka is one of the ones that has a lot of diversity. Gonna find the X-Torn here on the
Soxa and that. Well, there is a new arrow as well. Soxa, still quite a bit of HP, gets to scatter
of blasts off star storm not ooh fairy fire I thought was enough but living armor
makes that look a lot harder than it should be true here it's it's gonna be
moonlight shout out you're on the prowl here what minimum would you say DMU
is doomed last game 27 or something okay do you think the black hole will come
before that yes but I don't know why are you so confident because it's almost
unbelievable that it would be slower not because I think it's it's hard to
accept that it might be slower. Maybe it's wishful thinking. He's going Vessel by the
way on the day, but I don't love that here, I have to say. From the perspective of tempo,
if you want to play fast, I get it. Then maybe you buy the shard at 15 as well. He's playing
for the long game. Well, if you're playing for the long game, I don't think you buy Vessel.
give 0 kills. It's not been a very eventful game for the earn of shadows already.
I guess that's true.
But that can all change.
I mean, they care that much about Cold Embrace.
That's what I mean. I just, I don't even think the vessel is like that high value.
I get that it's nice to, it feels nice to vessel Axe and Kunka, but these two heroes
are going to, by VKV's a reasonable time. Especially Kunka. He's almost going to have
it before you have your vessel, right?
speaking of farm near a blink dagger online so 13-minute blink dagger blade
mail and you would think that Beth I'm gonna try to make something work with
this especially the GPK having his boat at the red and he's 600 off the BKB so
perhaps you just wait for that yeah they don't gonna get tornadoed into the
meteor hammer or he's half HP but there's a counter call from here showing off
that blink dagger for the first time order most kisses onto GPK not quite
So close to getting a kill for the first time in the game, but not quite there yet.
I didn't even realize I'm gonna kill.
Yep, yep, it's...
We're waiting.
Well...
That was the Meteor Hammer, first attempt.
and some, you know, good coverage for GPK there.
I'm safe.
Yeah, if it could have just gotten like an overgrowth
or something like that, then literally an easy kill.
Save.
Watson with that Deso.
Still can't find the first kill of the game.
My shadow pop for save.
But I don't wanna do anything offensive
with this Miro's thinking about it.
At least he's moving up the high grounds.
Doesn't, what does he have with him?
I'm Marana.
Katso and he's gonna kill DM together with Kiritich.
Oh wait, that was just a burst!
Overgrowth on tip two.
They're gonna try to pound in to save. That's the first kill for Yandex.
Miero now on the run. This would be huge, big melt strike from Rothstein.
Brings him to the ground.
They're in the game.
They need more of that.
That's a black hole. What do we have? You said 27 minutes?
Is that actually accurate?
I don't know. Something like that.
I wonder if this is a...
If we have a replay of the kill on the enigma. It looked like...
Katomi did it himself.
Oh my god you're right. The curse. You gotta watch out for this. Oh good. To be fair I would say you have to be fully cognizant of this. It's not a surprise. Katomi didn't just hit a surprise level 6 there.
So DM has to be wary of his relative position to the Atavons and I think he's learned his lesson. Even that singular kill feels extremely good for Wyvern.
I can't tell me spotted here though, but it's just two supports for Yankee.
You get a Sun Strike to help and DM nearby as well.
They don't even need them.
Fold and Brace not going to be enough.
There's the Yandex.
Three kills in the last minute or so.
Small kill for Yandex, but a major leap for the scoreboard.
Mera.
There you go, leap.
Blink call.
Not quite enough.
It's against three members right now.
midnight bosses there with a Sun Strike to follow Miero dies twice in a row and
GPK shows up a little bit too late so this huge farm advantage for Miero
kind of thrown away which I feel like game one with DM is kind of a similar
story. Is this just a mandatory thing you have to do on X? Apparently. Just have a
free start and then you must listen to the voices. The voices. The voices say go
go fight
the voices apparently
narrated by Arnold Schwarzenegger
oh that wasn't it
I didn't know that's what you were going for
it wasn't I just said it was Arnold
that sounded like Arnold to me
carrotitch has the mage player right now
deso pretty soon
in his inventory 500 away dm
max step onto carrotitch
first up the game potentially malifist to start
Of course not. We're not at 27 minutes yet, so no black hole.
No, all cats also press two buttons so he can remove everything.
Jump away into self-dispel and become invisible, and cool and fast, and have the greatest voice acting of all time in one key.
Alright, that one, I know you're joking, but some people won't know that you're joking.
It's the worst.
That's why Sarcasm is so great.
It's the little worst voice lines.
Very lazy.
All right, let's do it. Let's do a quick tier list here. What's the three heroes you like the voice acting of the least Kez?
Yeah, Kaden Boker. I don't care about Kaden Boker. It's fun
You hate it. You hate kids. Hate is a big word. You said fuck them kids and I don't understand why.
That's interesting. Vote right on his face. He is dead. That's the black hole for memes. Oh
Eight more hands for Beth. He's got ten more minutes to find it find the button. Oh good. We'll see. All right, we need another one
There's only two that come to mind that I'm not huge fan of Largo. Yeah, it's just Largo and Kaz. It's the last two here
We want it's not because their voice acting is badly done
It's because we want them to sound like animals as they're animals. We love animals
We do play pubs in Dota Sasha dead
It's like mostly supports dropping to the deck at the moment
Getting good merit out of the conca so far been in seven out of nine kills, but yet to see the
plan on the itemization. He's got 3k gold in the tank. Yeah, this should be interesting.
On GPK, not even showing us what he's thinking. There are still multiple options. If you feel
like the right-click build is a possibility you could do it, I would strongly advise against
that against TA. I think that's kind of the worst matchup in all of Dorat's by damage on Kunko.
Yeah. That's why he's queuing up Shadowblade. Don't really feel like that's... It's not right-click
Yet? It is leaning in that direction though.
Let's see, it's a bit of a hybrid item.
Obviously, I'll first catch.
You will commit for it.
Okay.
So, we'll do a full Silver Edge as it looks.
So obviously, the issue with buying this item on Kunkka is you have very bad attack speed and hit really hard,
but TA obviously doesn't give a crap about that, with refraction on.
But against everybody else, depending on how you want to look at it, glass half full and all that,
it's very good for killing other heroes to have these big hitting abilities or attacks rather.
I think if you're going silver edge, you're probably going down the route of Daedalus, right?
I mean, what else would you do?
I don't know. It feels like you can buy any item on this hero.
Axe is not good if you buy it like fourth.
Yeah, that's you're missing the window that-
We were talking about this, if Beth Boone's lead was kind of staggering a bit.
Yeah, I don't really...
Yannick would be pretty happy, and that's exactly the case here.
Oh.
Are you okay?
Is he gonna see us now?
No, still not gonna.
Yeah, I feel like they haven't really accomplished enough for me to feel confident in them right now on the side of Beth Boone.
I thought this was gonna be a bit more explosive like game one.
Oh, this would be a nice steal.
Especially if they grab this one on Yannick's.
Nero is nearby.
They need to be quick about it, they've got 10 seconds.
Oh, that's true.
And they use the meatball and the strike.
They can't do it now.
Oh, what a terrible waste of time.
And now, because you went there, you've actually given up
control in the bottom half of the map.
If Bat Boom were to walk in and ward,
they could get control of the tormentor area.
But the link dagger for DM is Black Hole going to be cast
in the next seven minutes.
Seven minutes to find it.
Keep your eyes peeled.
You know, I'm getting more confident that he's going to cast it.
Yeah.
For like half a second before he gets cursed.
That was...
That was not in the contract. It didn't have to be full duration.
No, I agree. Even if it's just on himself in the fountain, that counts as a cast.
Do you think... So, what is the option for now?
He's going for the shard, and then BKB, of course.
And are you forced to go for...
Lincoln's?
It's like the one thing that cancels you is Curse.
It's not really that good, right?
Because they have other long range abilities to cancel the Lincolns out with.
They have X marks in the spot with his really long cast range, and they have Splinter Blast.
Wyvern itself can always stop the Black Hole with a dagger.
You wait for the Black Hole to be cast, you blink Splinter Blast the Enigma, and then
you curse him after it.
So I mean, it does buy you the travel time of a Splinter Blast, which is probably like
about a second, so you have a guaranteed one second Black Hole, but that does not sound
great for four thousand five hundred gold but at the same time what else do you
do if it's not an aura patch for an egg may have to buy something you have to
I don't know if I like that argument actually it's gonna take out the
torment here it feels like you have to make them use that stuff that yeah you
will have zero ways to channel black hole unless you get the wyvern in it which
you don't really want him in it in theory so Lincoln's at least buys you an
I mean, it's it's something. It's just not you're not like hell. Yeah, you know what I mean?
I might end up buying it. I feel like that's Lincoln's in a nutshell because Lincoln's with BKB now you can always cast up
Yeah
To cancel the link there are games where we look at it and we're like wow
The only two abilities that can hit Lincoln's here are two Oats that you want to block like Dennis just amazing, right?
If you're playing as Beastmaster and
Wyvern for example
Mm-hmm or why was a bad example because the splinter blasts there's other heroes that have like single target olds that you just really want to
Block I am a little surprised at Lincoln's has it needed a nerve or a buff rather since they changed the way that
BKB work. I mean I just get some it got a lot cheaper now
Aside from that just like the effects themselves like yeah, there's no overriding factor that fact that your BKB
They can still cancel the link or still use the Lincoln
Yeah, I guess I also found more of a place because of the nerf to refresher
Because otherwise, why would you buy Lincoln's when you can just buy a BKB refresher?
Yeah, a lot of games then you just get that instead
But now that you don't have that choice if you do need the defensive utility that actually has a place more so
Game has slowed down quite a bit. Mierrow was on- I think Yannick's are more than happy. Yeah, Mierrow was on a complete rampage
It felt like
Now he's close to bottom network. I'm actually surprised that DM is still down there though as enigma. This hero farms
better than most
But the discrepancy in farm is not really that large, and it ends up evening out.
I'm caretich with the agonist scepter now.
I still am waiting for this axe for the snapfire.
Just throw the enigma in.
Keep waiting.
Throw the tree antin, throw anyone in.
Throw the game.
Just pick it up, send it to the other team.
I mean, if he gets frustrated enough with DM never using his ult, he might just buy it.
Like, if you can't find the button for your blink dagger...
Alright, where are we at now? We're at close to 24 minutes.
Yeah, you might end up being right. Let me give you the first time.
Smoke?
Okay.
Started on the roche, but they didn't want to commit here.
Greaves for save.
Okay.
So what's good to the spell here? Overgrowth, Malophis, GA traps, silence.
If she ends up buying that
Well hello socks up. Yeah, I know I'm gonna be like at this tier 2 tower
It looks likely that socks that's taking the brunt of the damage here in the mid lane gets chopped by Miero
Do we get a hand that's gonna try to retreat DM so check him to see if his R button works
We won't know for a while keyboard might be malfunctioning you can press R and then just not press left click
Unless it has it on quick cast
Black Hole a dangerous spell on quick desk but...
Sunstrike's gonna give some vision here but Roche is too low to contest.
Of course Kat to Omi on the cliff is hard to contest so here it just gets the first Aegis of the game.
But Yandex, I mean I feel like they're still somewhat comfortable just farming away.
If this Aegis isn't gonna be used for anything, it's at the end of the day that Roche kill was irrelevant.
You're not constricting the map. You're not stuffing invoker TA or enigma from scaling
The DM would like to be richer than this, but it's not at all in an alarming territory sitting on 11k here
It's only a thousand behind the axe who have the freest start up all time
True. It's it's good enough. Oh
I'm telling you this content that it could be any other hero wouldn't it just be better
and I just hate I mean song and she's good against invoker and trian but the problem
is black hole is going to be full duration yeah you're still going to take a ton of damage
from TA and snapfire since you don't have any armor in your build right now so T actually
Okay, those are pretty fast
Yeah, I'm curious, okay, I mean if he's going Sunday now, she's going right like now. There's no question. I
have to
For NATO power spots claimed by Watson and Greaves are gonna be used along with him in my shadow cheer junior now on the retreat
Miera looking for an opening. Oh
That's the blink call on to cheer up in a bit of trouble now Torrent
Air ice arrow!
DASA does have cookie, but not gonna help out here.
That was a beautiful kill. That was really really nice.
We're gonna continue to chase.
We have Link from Katoma.
Immediate ULZ from Saksa, but he's gonna be surrounding him pretty soon.
Especially with the chicken man nearby.
First ESO charge for him.
Yeah, that hasn't really been much fighting.
No objective to take with these two kills though.
30 seconds away, by the way.
Ah, keep it up to him.
You think you were conservative with your prediction that it was 27 minutes last game?
You could have been.
I don't remember. At this rate it's gonna be 35 anyway, so don't get your hopes up.
Enigma has always been a fan favorite. You've seen so many arena games.
Enigma gets picked, the crowd goes wild, and that's because they can't wait to see Malatis.
to see Malatis, it's really what gets the crowd going.
Yeah, I mean, that pulse was good.
I don't think they're going to have that pulse.
Very high.
I think it's more they're just cheering on the Idleons
because they're so cute.
Yeah, that's right.
These are very cute.
I don't even know what they are, but they're cute indeed.
These ones are very uninteresting, actually.
What the hell?
Little laser cannon Belistas thingies.
It looks like a sideways cannon now.
What's the StarCraft cannon called?
Which one?
From Protoss, the building.
Ion cannon?
That's from Command and Conquer.
It's a sick game though, so good reference.
Go ahead and google it for me.
We have nothing better.
I mean, it's not like Black Hole's going to get casted anyway.
Just look at Brute War.
I gave you StarCraft 2.
It's the same name.
Same name.
Chira.
We have a smoke potential.
Photon cannon.
Photon cannon, thank you.
I forgot to, it's been forever since I've played Sorka.
This of course never good at it.
No, I love Hydro Drops.
Lurker Drops, specific actually.
I've never played Sorka before.
And Nuclear Strikes of course.
That's why I made Gandhi.
Hmm
So is this ages gonna be used it feels like they're not pressuring too much. It's only a minute left
I mean to get some towers to the tower here
That's good one bottom. Excellent work from Kiritich
And they haven't really pushed the envelope
Kizzing it up here in the major way
Yeah, looks like they'll just let it expire on its own accord.
Oh, Chira's getting collapsed on though, if they have a vision.
Should be Kagan run right into him.
Oh, yes, the jam.
Yeah.
Oh, he knows, he knows.
But Chira's pretty fast.
He could be, he could be too big.
Everybody's scared to call me.
Oh, no.
They're gonna be regretting the order.
Oh, my God.
He missed.
regretting the order oh my god you know does it but they have the curse and
here up this is a symphony of sausage yet again sausage and a half it's a
pretty old sausage to a real frankfurter right there but they do get him in the
end it's more like a corn dog I don't know what they're called in English
they're probably not called that are they what a frankfurter yeah the big the
big thick sausages. You feel me? I'm not feeling that. No. That's fine. I don't actually know what
they're called in English. The fact that Yandex are down 2k with four kills is kind of impressive.
Yeah. The fact that Black Hole has not been cast at 30 minutes, kind of impressive.
Yeah. Shout out to the devs for making this possible.
That de-packed really flipped our world upside down.
It's the big map.
It allows for this.
Malady has decided it is now time to farm the left side of the map on Trant.
He's going for X again.
Hell yeah.
Man, this is such a great Trant.
I do like that this is becoming canon.
I just hope it's not.
It doesn't turn out that it's just like broken and it's just gonna get nerfed.
It's kind of fun to see big boy tree.
It is.
He's halfway there as well.
There's GPK using that gem to full effect to get rid of some of these eyes.
This is gonna be some late game juicy Dota.
Let's make sure to think that.
Because we have an enigma.
I'm gonna tree in and support with a lot of farm.
Right.
That's a big call from Miero. Most action we've seen in the last 10 minutes.
That's untrue. He didn't miss one on Invoker. That was more action.
Just keeping you in check here. Don't lie to the audience, they're paying close attention.
Chiba's now online for Chira. Get that extra AoE for his meatballs.
Are you surprised he's not going for the A? He really doesn't like AXE on this hero.
Well, the teammates that he combos it with aren't pressing their buttons, so I wouldn't buy it either.
Have we seen an overgrowth either?
Yeah, yeah, we have.
We have one?
Maybe one.
I genuinely can't remember the overgrowth for this.
Yeah, maybe.
That might have been one.
Maybe just one.
Can you just plant the tree and put an eye on it?
Am I crazy?
It's not good.
What? Why would you do that?
Very visible.
Captain only gets the shot.
Okay, explain that to me.
That's actually going to bother me now.
Does that not just go away?
I think it...
The tree goes away.
Surely.
Maybe not. I mean, either way, it's obvious.
That's an eye on it.
It's not a tree that normally...
It gives a little more vision.
Alright, we have a smoke.
Will Black Hole be used? That is the question we all want to know.
DM posturing.
Has the drums available in two seconds.
Nobody's on this side of the map.
More creeps. Hell yeah.
Let's see a breakdown of the hero damaged on this game.
Hold on, hold on, Miero.
Okay, maybe.
Okay, in the cover of his Shadowblade.
Yes, no, maybe unless.
Unless I black hole back in the passive form again. I dodged that. Let's see. Okay back to farming bottom damage of the game
Heritage 2k on kez
So less than trient
Yep, they've done more damage in bedroom that is sure they also have nine more kills so that does check out
the thing that I'm excited about aside from the things that we've mentioned which isn't much I guess
but the black hole late game stuff how does kez we talk about kez in this like as a basically like
we would describe a god late game how do you stop this chicken yeah how does he match up against
black hole, you know, the thing we've been talking about since TI1, Cinderan.
Yeah, we've been talking about since TI1.
What is stronger?
What is stronger? Black hole or chicken?
Oh.
So you're calling black hole an egg, and you like what came first, or?
Yeah, kind of like that.
Oh, if you want the answers to that question, everybody is bad against black hole.
If you have damage and you black hole kids, he can die.
Wow, that's really riveting.
Well, I think the question deserved that answer.
Okay, well, there's got to be something to talk about in this game.
You're going to want to talk to Kez matches up against TA.
That would have been a little bit interesting, but that crossed your mind.
Roche will belch.
So, in all seriousness though, it's a very volatile matchup.
If Enigma gets caught by literally anything, Kez can kill you in one second.
But if you do get blackholds, obviously you can't fight back for four.
Ordemers for vision.
Miro gets clipped.
Oh my, destroyed the cookie target.
So you're obviously, you're, as I make my in this game, you're dream black hole is
that killing, hitting Kez plus one and Wyvern is somehow taking care of my somebody.
That's the best thing that can happen.
Alright, after that riveting fight that we ear, ear, okay, the R button is bound.
We do have proof of that now.
That is good information to know. 35 minutes in the game.
Yep, so far he is playing. That literally looks like Razor.
Am I crazy?
No, you're not. Look at that face.
The helm does.
And we're back. Euronegma is back.
Thank you.
Here goes the Roche.
Hages two.
Cures Hages number two.
They have a banner.
What can they do with it?
Wind Waker now sucks.
I mean this is one time though.
The later the game goes, these supports.
Yep.
Gonna get these crazy ass identities.
They're gonna get them back.
They're gonna get them swyvern.
They didn't, haven't seen this tree yet.
They'll never know.
Oh! Like, hmm.
Yep.
No, GPK sees it. All right.
Arrow.
I'm only taking it out.
Farming creeps with arrow.
It's where we've come to save, trying his best to stay awake on Marana.
Like, I remember the days when I was using arrow offensively.
They will come about again.
Yeah, he has Ags, by the way.
So that'll help him farm.
Not irrelevant in a game like this to consider how the supports scale in terms of damage, either.
We're focusing a lot on the carries, but Murana can have significant output as a support later in the game.
If you get the level 20 ton for 200 star storm damage, you have Ags.
You're probably going to go the multi-shot arrow later, and then you're covering the map in just stars everywhere.
Or the screen rather.
This is the type of game that could still be 17 kills in 10 minutes.
That's not out of the question.
question will black hole be used at 45 you think I'm not saying anything I'm
just here for the ride if you can call it that this is a really slow right this
is taking like your toddler on some like one mile per hour train this is a
ferris wheel and I did not buy the tickets for it so it's acceptable well
the ferris wheel it seems to be broken well it has not moved in quite a lot
which position I was stuck I guess we're stuck at the bottom but they're not
Letting us off because if we're at the top we could at least enjoy the view
No, we're probably like eight feet off the ground. So it's slightly dangerous for us to get down
Especially at my age. Yeah, that's yeah, don't do that
If I get hurt I can sue so they're not letting us off the ride
And they're taking 20 minutes to find a cushion for you to land on and you can smell the chicken, too
But you can't quite grasp. Oh, that's right. No, yeah, that's the worst
just fried chicken everywhere and there's some fish as well because tornado
tornado into teepee out and there's like three a protector agonist scepter
trend ag's invoker is close to hex okay I think both teams have agreed to not
fight until everyone is six-slotted because that's the true way to play
dota aka turbo mode they're trying to end my shadow not gonna connect here thanks
for interrupting for that really important call something about invisible chicken
okay you're not going anywhere that he has two that's so charges at 37 minutes and they're winning
the game right now well even possible who's winning the game quote unquote winning no one's
winning here let's be real Clark's gave no two to one favorite for the dire you're really for the
die well it is enigma they have an enigma invoker i called this from the beginning kanka was picked
Like this game's over. Yeah, you know, you can't deal with it
Well, GPK to go for an AC. So what's it gonna be next here two priorities? It seems good for farming
Hey name the items that have not been purchased so far divine rapier caretich
Oh and see a fight goes right on top of socks and a lot of damage with a wing waker surprise
It's been 40 minutes. That's the fork and I keep by that shit socks
It does fall though first death and God knows how long and that's gonna break up the fight just riveting shit
We got here bet boom with the ages for another minute and a half
Gonna pressure this tier 2 in all likelihood.
Living armor.
Malady pretending to want to fight.
Think we all know better.
Bet we're not gonna fall for that.
Black hole still not used at 38 and a half.
You know what they used to say?
It's the threat of the black hole that does as much of the black hole, but...
They're also not threatening it.
He hasn't shown on map. I don't know on how long.
There goes the top tower in a minute, waiting for Bechtor protection to fall off his Kiritich.
The fact that we're going to have a second Aegis expire and the tier two, one tier two has fallen.
Yep.
That's, well I guess the tier two at the bottom did fall a long time ago, but for Bat Boom.
For Bat Boom, yeah.
Baby steps.
BB steps, if you will.
Good ol' Boom boys.
Yep.
Well, I guess that third rush is what we're going to be waiting for now.
DM, I wonder if he's forgotten how to cast this ability?
I don't think so.
But I'm happy that his ear is okay.
Yeah, what was that?
Worried for a second.
Ear.
Yeah.
Sounds like a worthy pause to me.
link for Watson who is not six-slotted for the cores now GPK has a gem
Ruffer only has a dust in one slot axe has a plate male so he's not fully six
slotted gem on counter cookie improved we have a smoke we have a small
thing might be happening black hole might be used please calm the fuck down
40 minutes calm down please calm down 40 minute rune rune arcane okay not bad
Don't give it to enigma. He's not using his cooldowns.
Oh my god. Okay.
That means he's gonna use it here to have BK's gonna run right in.
Got the ball.
Lookie to use something.
The BK is gonna miss the call, though.
Mortimer's Kisses, Miro is taking a lot of damage.
And the right click from Watson, trying to brush it off of his ton.
Okay, gets cold embraced.
X marks the spot onto Watson.
Cookie to try to save him.
Here it goes. Carelessness with the BKB.
Counter BKB now from the TA.
Overgrowth onto two heroes.
There's the barcode!
The first of the goddamn game!
onto the goddamn chicken but the cold embrace comes out healing him quite a bit so no black hole kill
for the likes of yandex but he does have hope to get the curse onto two heroes so now the right
like damage coming out from the chicken man himself but look at the damage coming out from
wasan absolutely deletes two and now kato only on the run but not gonna be able to get away double
kill for wasan they kill off three heroes it was worth it in the end cindoran
Alright.
Say it gets hacked.
It's going to be a triple for the TA.
Doesn't count as it because Chiara Junior steals it.
We waited 40 minutes for a black hole to be cast and together it gets insta-cold embraced.
One year old. It's amazing.
It worked.
It worked.
It worked.
They got the job done.
A lot of things going wrong in this fight honestly.
The missed call to start, not a good beginning.
The full duration arrow onto Enigma
Prevents them from actually getting anything going to begin with and now this chase through and then to end it all off
The curse from Wyvern was on to TA instead of the hero next to TA pay attention to this
That's gonna matter a lot so call the price right now black hole is just gonna expire look at the curse coming in here
As soon as it comes down
If this curse some socks, uh, instead of the TA socks is gonna die to TA really save TA
It's effectively, or at least it's, I mean, who knows.
I think T.A. would have killed the...
Watson!
Racks your GPK, taking a good amount of damage.
There's some heroes coming back up, so how much fielding damage can you do?
Sun Strike, nice dodge from GPK.
That would have been enough.
We'll be able to get the melee racks.
Okay.
And the Andex have Strike first.
Strickin', I can't speak English anymore.
No, you stop yourself from saying strike back because you're like it takes the other team to strike
It's such a weird game. All right. Well 4k leave they get the first lane of barracks roaches up in 15 seconds if you're lucky
Couple minutes more than that if you're not
But I mean, okay ultimately if you're playing back that fight in your mind
Axe misses a call you have a wrong curse and Kes just YOLO dives in against TA with no back
I haven't fought in so long. Everyone forgot how to play Dota.
Yeah. All I'm saying is that did work out for Yandex, but that was extremely scrappy, and Betboom can do way better than that.
So, that was definitely a swing and a miss.
Obviously, also, you've got to give credit to both teams. It's hard to find these clean openings when you have good formation.
But, I mean, Axe-Call should just hit one hero, right? That should be the expected outcome.
But one of my black holes are probably gonna be the norm in this game. It's gonna be very hard to find multiple heroes in the same time
It's does feel like elimination game, but it's not no this is for grand finals appearance loser goes to lower bracket
Another life on the line GP Know has satanic
Okay, so type ringer ignores armor talent, but no real right-click damage
right home about and he's going for a wind waker next to try to offer more
protection against black hole but that's TA matchup definitely annoying for the
Kunkka and keep in mind you picked into that you knew the TA was in the draft
you had the last pick of the game DM feeling very confident now they got that
one-man black hole looking for another opening jumps right on top of the axe
lot of damage coming out now he comes in as well they do burst him down and no buy
back for Miero. So this is a five versus four and look how big and juicy that tree is. Mortar
Morskess is coming in the course comes out as well doing a lot of damage to Chira Jr.
Adler as well, but he pops the BKB and now GPK getting stunned in the midst of his BKB
and there's the Black Hole. This time off to two, ever-growing the DM ult, but he's going to get
gone on by the chicken man himself who's doing so much damage to Chira Jr. Pop,
the refresher able to get away for the time being another meteor coming out here to
has to run away now. The BKB is running out. Double buyback kill for Betboo. They get this
pull and raise on the character. Two damage, two damage, two burn through it. DM comes in
with a malochist. The Ragnix will be there. Double kill for Watson. They do have two buybacks
for the Betboo side. But still, this fight definitely going away for Yannick. So far,
with a counter initiation now. Mierre with the call. With the BKB now. Trying to chop Malody,
but the Lotus keeps him alive. Now that's going to be on cooldown. Buyback comes out from GPK.
And the rest of Yannick is going to back away with a 14K lead now.
Feels like they got about 10k in that fight alone.
That is a very weird buyback on the Kunkka if you're not going to get Roche off of this.
The fight was already over and the enemy team was on the disengage
and GPK with the last second buyback.
Or buyback.
Offering essentially nothing with that.
Well, Roche has spawned, he's in the bottom half
and the Andex are going to start playing zone control.
We're going to see the replayer.
This is what's so crazy about this train attack.
He just jumps, he just walks in to get visioned.
Like, he's so hard to kill, it's not worth it.
And that's a nice black hole.
You see Kira, so she tries to get the stun angle, eventually gets it, but it's way too late for them, and it's already done.
And he will barely kill Chira with the bleed, courtesy of this arrow hitting with a star storm off on the right.
But doesn't get to survive the hole, kind of, ever. Regardless.
Very painful fight for Bethune.
Alright, he's gotten a one man black hole.
He's gotten a two man black hole.
It's just ever growing.
Infinite.
Infinite.
Infinite.
Okay.
Gonna need some illusions for that.
Who's got the Manta?
that would be an interesting talent Black Hole Allies. Allies in Black Hole gain invulnerability.
Oh, yeah. Pretty good. That sounds very fair. I mean, isn't even that good though? Really? Yes.
Invulnerability is pretty broken. It is, but it can't really. Oh, speaking of broken. Okay.
Broken Chicken Man. Yeah, the Chicken Man himself. He's going to hit very hard and he needs to not get Black Hole now.
Now that is very important. Here it is.
Now, doing enough damage for two cores, which is important since he has Kunkka mid.
Alright, smoke on both sides. Roche is up.
If the endexers win this fight, the game might end.
Yeah, if they recover this rapier on their TA, they're just gonna smal-
Oh! A new overgrowth!
Another damage coming in from Waston on the GPK.
There's a potential black hole for DMV used.
Wait!
Nothing apparently! Socks the kills off Kat's only DM's die shortly after two the chicken man.
They're gonna get both supports.
What?
See the deafening blast onto Miero, he was caught off guard.
Bet two dead for Betboom, no buyback for them.
What happened to the black hole?
You just cancel it instantly or something?
It was like I didn't get three people, can't use it.
Not allowed. Wait, is that actually just like...
Wait, Roche banner for vision I guess, they're interesting.
Wait, okay.
Okay, let's just only watch any... I mean first of all, what a sick...
Yeah, I should have set up.
What happens?
Okay, let's see.
Deanne blinks in, black hole.
He's stopping himself.
He's not stunned.
Yeah, he's not stunned.
He gets stunned eventually by Tez, I think.
Huh.
Who placed the banner?
Uh, who got a last rush?
Was it Triant or was it...
Not sure.
Either way, third rush goes to Yandex now.
Okay, well, that's good enough.
Take care of that now.
70 seconds with no Miero.
Yep.
Yep.
They can definitely do some building damage here.
They're gonna have Refresher Shard, Cheese, Rosh Banner as well.
Remember what they said, the wise old man shenan.
It's the threat of the Black Hole.
Yep.
He shoved the threat down.
He looked very menacingly.
And that was enough.
Waiting for the respawns for Yannick.
They'll have about a 40 second differential here with Miero's respawn timer.
They know that four buybacks were expended in the previous fight.
They can kind of push the envelope here.
Yeah, black hole off cooldown in 20 seconds, they're gonna wait for that, and then they're gonna make the move.
Trant ready to rumble.
Lawson, gonna start out with some high ground damage.
Here it says, remember, he has a divine rape, you're gonna go down.
A lot of damage!
That's luck number one already!
He sucks!
He sucks!
That's a nice to the apple flash!
Okay!
Both right on top of Watson.
Trying to get the hell out now with the BKB.
GPK trying to get it, trying to go in,
but there's the big little Tom Malady.
Watson's gonna try to turn this around
onto the chicken man himself.
And there's the curse actually!
Folding Watson in place.
He's giving an arrow now and brought down.
Huge kill from Betboom into the call now from Niero.
Somehow this fight was a complete disaster for Yandex.
And the question is, can Betboom force the buyback?
A lot is happening.
Well, the sausages are really strong in this game.
They just committed to a siege high ground
with two heroes, like half a map away.
Enigma and Trant, we just saw them connect to each other
in the outpost, and Watson just goes and starts hitting high
ground.
Look at the map where the other heroes are.
Look at Soxa.
Dude, how did he die?
Soxa gets hit by a triple Echo Slash.
Oh.
Oh, boy.
Chicken man strikes again, huh?
is a blunder and a half, and then some DM in back.
And the end was here with Black Hole.
You could have literally just waited one wave,
and then your whole team is there.
But instead, you're kind of just wasting away
every advantage you have YOLO hitting that tower.
Props to Beppu were just going for it.
I don't think they had the info.
They didn't even know that the other two heroes
were missing, did they?
Sokka.
I guess they knew one hero just respawned.
That's a look of when you had too much chicken in a day.
Oh, yeah.
He's been there.
Okay, I'm gonna get the tier 2 mid, I'm gonna try to force buybacks, it's 30 seconds away, I think there's enough delay from Yandex.
Gonna have the Mortimer's Kisses, another fortification as well.
I'm gonna actually do both at the same time.
It's the most of the wave, and yeah, the siege, you die.
It's actually a good kiss, it's during the glyph there, because you want to kill the non-siege creeps so the tower can take the mountain time.
They still have enough damage though.
I'm not gonna make it but if you were to try to hold your racks this was the only way to do it
You had to kiss kill the
Non-seages so the tower kills the sieges and then back door can kick in but still too quick all right
So Elaine a piece now. Oh
My god look at the graph the graph is
Yeah, someone had a heart attack in this game
This is not healthy
You should get that checked out Yandex. Yeah
Yeah, that is also after having too much chicken.
Too much fried chicken on the menu.
Alright, well, it feels like this is going to come down to if they can kill the chicken.
Yeah.
Get the divine.
Because the buybacks are going to be coming back for Bet Boom.
Less than a minute away for all of them.
does not have buyback so that would add insult to injury if they're able to take a fight now smoke from yandex
trying to force the issue here yeah if they were to find a good fight without these buybacks they could
just finish it but unfortunately with that missed moment opportunity down bottom the buybacks are
coming off cooldown now that's why that play was so important to get light you had the ages you had
the banner you had man advantage it everything there's the damage you're in bottom i don't think
I think they have vision there though.
If they can spot it though, that would be very big for each team.
I'm sure it's going to show bot to push out the lanes.
This is likely going to be a bit of a stalemate until Rosh is up again.
This is in the interest of the radio.
Excuse me to just slow this down.
Kez is 2.5k from buyback, so if you can just get to farm a little bit, you'll be happy.
Okay, he takes it
Okay, I'm not gonna use it. What's the damage on that Malifas?
Now counter smoke. That's what actually gets to stay here this
This could get
This is not an expected ward in the game. See right now. I think for Yandex. They could definitely get fun
In a minute's time
That's them smoking over there hoping someone wants to go into the triangle to farm and they might just greet invoker there cheer
a junior here up gonna walk up the high ground he spotted he's called and he is
super dead does have my back here high value Ward it's not that the ward even
saw the invoker it's that they wanted to go there because they had it
otherwise they probably wouldn't have gone there to begin with on bedroom they
find a nice takeoff as can you do this yes you can backdoor on a tier two that
Kazz is my president.
Pretty impressed.
My Kazzident.
Another Wind Waker.
Kazz we can. There we go.
There it was. It took me a moment. We got there.
In Kazz we can?
Kazz we can, yeah.
Okay.
Wait.
FNY rebuild?
Did he take it apart?
I actually didn't notice.
Maybe they're there for fun. Keeping up with APM.
got a wind waker too. What does he drop here though? I guess the boots in the fight?
Hmm. I don't know. Maybe sell the SNY? Where'd he go from there though?
The build is so weird, I don't know. Also, isn't Tidal Wave just a really good 1400 gold in this game?
Yeah. I feel like it's a mistake not to buy that at some point, right? You're so far into the game almost an hour.
an hour. Any displacement tool just becomes incredibly valuable in BKB's run out. You
get additional team fight control of some kind for 1400 gold. He's killing us. Ags
over it though. Surely that can't be right.
No, the chicken man finds the grandma, oh, she was unlocked, the arrow actually hit, wow,
one of the three arrows I guess, ulti shot, and eventually, oh no chop from the arrow,
caretich, he wanted his death majority, yeah very important, still not up to 30 at 55 minutes
so this room to grow.
We are dead even now.
It's actually dead for 80 seconds.
They don't know about,
I assume they don't know about the buyback situation here.
Roche can spawn in 30 seconds.
There's the Lincoln, see?
It all comes together in the end.
Yeah.
DM.
The problem with Lincoln's is that
it doesn't block you from stunning yourself.
So he has to find a solution without one as well.
You need to get some caffeine in the system.
The brain lag too strong.
I really hope we aren't slandering him
when he just got stunned by something.
I mean, we couldn't see, but we got a replay
and I still didn't see it.
Mandarin is more fun though. Okay, that's fair. That's right. You said it. You're the one on the media, I think.
Bed Boon. Should work for a newspaper.
Those don't exist anymore, Bed Boon. Okay. Moonlight Shadow. Oh, they can find Watson.
They're gonna arrow up though. Maybe they get a lucky one. Just keep fishing. Eventually someone's gonna play it.
What did Miro call there? Creepwave.
They hit it.
He's showing DM how it's done.
Caretich looking for a Scotty now?
Yeah, that's interesting.
What would that replace?
I don't know.
I feel like you should save the gold for another Rape.
I don't really know if this Scotty's...
Is it better than the Deso?
Is it better than the Nullifier?
You have no boots to replace.
You need your BKB Satanic and Rape here for sure.
So if you're not replacing...
Yeah, that's the one on fire
Hmm, I mean maybe the idea is just he wants to be as tanky as possible if he gets black hold and have the highest chance of surviving
But technically you could bite this which is kind of crazy on Kaz in a way, but
It is also the item against enigma and the enemy team is rocking zero nullifiers
This is I still have to say that's been going higher on this game. I don't know what the hell you do
It's really hard invoker enigma. There's literally the two best high ground defenders the entire game. They're missing sniper
I guess that's true
and techies
Well modern-day techies, maybe not not so much
Smoke and smoke they want to contest the Roche
Socks are gonna leave the charge he has disc and of course a refresher for double and he is level 25
So the snap fire is gonna start hurting like
Absolutely hell if she gets to just stand and deliver the knife back out into the silver edge double in this for GPK very strong
Malady gonna see the axe here. Ob-Centra combination
He's gonna go for it.
Right on him, the call comes out, the three hits and he's gonna die and he gets bashed!
He can't get us a black hole finally, doesn't there's the curse?
Right on top of DM, that's Gareth is now chasing Watts and do they have to vision and try to go on to the Marana
So Yule's gonna keep him safe for the time being, the Nullifier play is gonna get the refraction off
He's getting spinlocked right now as Kayn is trying to do his max damage as he can, he's gonna drop though!
And the Divine Rapier drops to the deck as well!
Instant Bibex from TA and company is Malady, now apply all the pressure to the Kunkka!
So GPK takes the tumble, who the hell gets the divine? It's the tree! Of course it is!
Oh, with Cleave!
Time to thrive!
Off to the temple you go buddy!
How many Bibex is that? Was that five total? Three for two?
3A Dyer by Bix two Radiant ones, but they lose the Rape here, so easily the gold swing in the favor of the Dyer, of course.
You're gonna see the replay here, so that...
First of all, Malady blinks in to hit the accident past nothing, and just dies right away when he has the Firebat.
Gets the Blackroll off for the Cursed World Place from Katomie.
And they don't quite have enough to take down Watson here, between the Kez and the Murana. Nice Wind Waker.
and all the fire brings him down, but it takes a little bit of time.
And here comes Conker, who goes for one cleave,
will finally take the TA and get the buyback out.
And it's definitely back in control of the game now.
He had just some cheese in the hand, all about buyback here.
And Treant has to be in the F tier of right here carriers in Dota.
It's got to be one of the absolute worst.
How dare you?
Don't slander my boy's name.
Even with his axe, he has no text.
He has no PQP or anything.
He's just going to blink.
Gift the moon chart already.
That's your new carry.
That's true.
Maybe you should get one for yourself first though.
STA.
Kez does have buyback here.
Keratich has a slot missing though.
And...
He should buy Raker again, right?
There's no way you don't buy it.
lot of items queued up. I don't know what the priority is here, but Divine is technically in there.
He's bothered by the butterfly from TA, so he wants to be MKB, but I feel like you still have to buy
Rape here just to more damage to everybody else. Mathematically, this item is probably better
against TA for what you want to do. You just want to make sure you connect and hit stuns.
We're at 60 minutes, by the way. Pure 5's incoming.
Yep. Some of them got buffed, but not by enough to get you excited.
No, they need a lot more than that.
Tier 5's, if you guys are not familiar, are slightly better than Tier 4's.
There's the Stygian.
That's probably what he was wanting.
And he gets the audacious one, of course, on TA.
So 100 attack speed, magic damage on hits, and more incoming damage.
This is like one of the best heroes to get this on, because the incoming damage doesn't
actually even do anything when you have refraction up.
There's no downside for all of those attacks. Yeah, true and you're level 30. So you have 10 instances of refraction on you
All right, so double book of the dead we have a
Horn yep, Minotaur horn on Chira mini horn Stygian
And it actually is a tier 5 and chaunch and chaunch
And chaunch and chaunch
Oh goodness the enchanted bottle so nice. Yeah, beautiful good vintage, yeah
9th victory for the bobble.
That's right.
20k lead for Yandex. Roche, not for a while.
So what do you do?
No tier 5s yet on the other side though, so
Yandex having that control of the map seems pretty valuable here.
Have the tier 5 advantage.
Oh, they're actually going to go right into the base.
They're going to run into Kesha on the left side.
Heritage spotted, Yules.
Heritage able to get out.
Malady nullifier flight.
He's the one with divine rape here.
He can't just leave him to die.
He's used to being up in the front line.
It's a nine to foul.
Arrow's not going to be.
He's impossible to get out.
9K.
That is so disgusting.
Because he has the damage.
Look at the damage from more of our Heritage.
It actually a lot of trouble.
Asked the Yules to try to stay alive.
It's OK.
He won.
That's good.
Spanked the whole HP.
Yeah, Watson now hitting the buildings.
Road coming in is an agonist sector bug, doing a decent amount to the refraction comes up.
Double bug indeed.
Heritage now lost the fight.
And it's off the echo slash.
This might be life number one for the TADM.
Comes in with a black hole though.
Gets canceled instantly.
There's the cataclysm coming in as well.
Doing a decent amount but not out to find a kill.
By back onto the kez.
Building still alive, second black hole.
This time onto a solo target.
This time not gonna cancel it.
The cold embrace keeping the cunt code alive though.
And it's keeping the enigma alive.
In the meantime, TPK's gonna take out no buyback for him as they're gonna be able to secure the bottom set of Barracks
And that means mega creeps re-index and there's the divine for Kez. No buyback anymore
Did he buy two of them? But what wait? Oh, no, he had to buy a so expensive. He sold something, right? He had so much gold
He sold something to get wait. He must have, right? Because he was five-slotted without time before
I'll pull all his car from him if he heals Jack-O-Slash and let's double kill for Kira, bitch!
Andy's stay alive to get some satanic off of the last moment, Malady.
He has so much HP that he cannot deal with this fucking tree!
Just pounding into that one of his three trunks, Kira just jumps back and can't get off the raptor dance.
He is dead to rise. No buyback for him.
And that means the game will end as Gigi's come out.
Malady just skidding on them with his divine rake here.
We are in tech!
As yet next, we'll go to the grand finals.
That's amazing.
So he got the two 5 neutral item that gave 40 primary attributes.
So obviously when he uses it also, he gets another 40.
So he ran around with 9,000 HP and raped your 3 in.
He had a bobble with strength on it.
God, that is sick.
Oh, my God.
That is so sick.
All the things to see, that was quite the spectacle.
This may be the worst and best game of the tournament
at the same time.
It's awesome!
Good God, it's awesome!
Yandex do get there though.
What's that?
Yandex do get there though, the late game strategy, they get to late game and they do find the way, but man, what a sick and weird game.
I'm glad to see that DM was able to get up those black holes in the end.
Watson absolutely destroying on the TA.
Ten kills, I mean, ten kills doesn't even seem like that much, but there weren't many kills in the game to begin with.
He ends with a Divine Rapier, Maladie ends with a Divine Rapier, Soxa ends the game with a Divine Rapier as well.
A Batboom, they've looked the best at this tournament, but they're gonna go to the lower bracket.
That's scary proposition for LGD and Aurora, who are waiting to face each other to see who will face off against Batboom eventually.
Yeah, for sure. Definitely the team too. Still feels like the team to beat in some ways, but Yandex have shown they can do it today in this series.
I've scored at the desk!
That's it?
Like an old panel?
Yeah, no, no, no.
You can't even win already having a chitchat.
What were you talking about?
Was it safe for broadcast?
What?
I said, what were you talking about with Q?
I was just asking, could he see it for the full broadcast?
Was like gaming a headset with one ear easing, so...
We were complaining about that because so often there's sometimes like occasional pauses because of the headset.
Are they painful to wear for that long?
I think, yeah, to be honest.
That's why I paused for 10 seconds just to refresh my answers.
It's a lot of pressure on the side of the head, but you guys ended up winning this one.
It was a bit of a bang-up, but a bit of a snoozefest for Game 3.
How would you describe the series?
I think the series is like two really good teams playing each other.
That's kind of how you can describe it, right?
High level of the other, painful mistakes.
Yeah, for yourself or the team?
No, just in general. I think every team had some painful mistakes in the series, and every mistake against a good team costs a lot.
Yeah.
I was curious, do you feel Enigma is good against Kez, or do you think it's just a U factor?
Because I think most people in the past have picked Kez against Enigma, because you can slash the Eidolons or whatever.
The thing is, he is unable to kill the Eidolons real well, and he's not having position 5s in the meta, which are able to kill them with me.
So he can Swiss Flash, he can make them 50% HP.
It's only 50%.
Yeah, so it's like not much.
I see.
And like you also move them away from second slash, and they're like 70% HP, and you just
deny him.
That's how I see it.
OK, and I'm assuming you don't care about the Wyvern either, because it's like pretty
apparent it's coming.
Yeah, when he will pick it, right?
He's signature here, and it's like the call cancel, but the thing is, lane Wyvern, I guess,
didn't feel fearful, you know, for us.
They picked Akanka, which can contest Enigma later on, he was doing a rotation, I remember.
We managed to survive.
I'll get caught, but I think without Kanke, they would have real pressure early game.
It's just like Kanke can't save them in this case.
Yeah, okay.
During the mid-portion of this game, they had two Aegis, but no one was really doing anything.
Was it because you guys shoving the wave so aggressively, or do you just think BB just played quite scared with the double Aegis?
I think it's hard to just go straight up with Aegis for them to hit high ground,
because there was mid-nitples in Walker, TA hitting from traps,
and the Hwells had a snapfire, he just cookie one Adolon, we used every spell and he's just gone.
And when he will blink in on Axe, he'll be past your pre, and then formation is broken.
So I think it's a right decision by them, not going high.
But I think we had just really cheesy drafts to play them up, I would say, like this.
And then I have to ask the obvious question. 47 minutes into the game, you're jumping into
their jungle, and then you go for a black hole, and then did you miss click? Did you like right click?
Something cancelled it actually don't know what cancelled it. So you didn't you didn't stop it? No, I didn't something cancel it
like maybe it's some like you know when
How cases working mechanics, but like if he has mark on me you see it's mark bash or something
Yeah, I think it was mark bash, but I didn't cancel it. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm not the coin like
I'm not the calling here. I'm what said in in Dota what settings do you use like you have the you have to press s to cancel channeling or
Yeah, okay, so you do have that on yeah, of course in that case. Yeah, it probably wasn't you just hitting
I think it was the mark like I can watch on replay, but yeah, it felt really weird. Okay. All right
Well, we'll have to do a bit more. Oh wait, hold on. It's so hard
We'll find but in the moment kind of looked up but luckily for you guys
It didn't really impact the kind of the scope of the game and melody tree with the with the eggs like 9000 HP
Like you guys like having a giggle about that in the game or is it more like?
Yeah, it's just a tree with an axe is what it's meant to do. I think it's like we had the discussion that he got a front line
I'm sucking him and he has like 10 PHP. It's like I'm dying number two. So yeah, it was a plant
It is a very cool thing just to see again, please don't don't try to do it in Coral
Okay, like these I don't see no DM off in three. Actually, you know what maybe I do want to see your friend
Treat you think you can do it? I tried it like few times one patch came out when tree was reworked, but
The back then tree was not that good, and also I face Cas every game, and Cas is impossible to play in this case.
Because every time you hit him, your hit is very slow, he always better, and then you hit him back.
Okay, so maybe...
Not what you can do about it.
Not during the Cas meta, noted.
I was also curious.
It's not in the Cas meta, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I was also curious, who does the... how the majority of the communication works in the later stages of the game?
Because I know it can shift sometimes from early to late, so how does the communication work when you go to these long games?
I think number one communicator is Saksa, and later on it goes to every course we see at the moment.
Like, let's say, Chirra can say, oh, I'm gonna push this wave, we can prepare on this wave to attack.
Or like, what's I'm saying? Guys, I'm gonna get dangerous, I'm gonna hit, you stay behind me, like,
you can wake me, stuff like this, so it's like, every core.
Okay, makes sense.
And you guys make it to the grand finals, of course there is still Aurora, LGD, and potentially Betboom
to make it back into that grand finals up against you guys.
Is there a team you would prefer to face up against in a best of five?
I think I would like to play against Avrora at the moment, because I didn't play against Nightfall in finals so far.
Okay, so...
I mean, in the LGD, I also didn't play, but Nightfall is like a long-time teammate for me, so it would be good.
Alright, so then secretly you're cheering for Aurora in the next series against LGD too?
I think if Aurora gets through the series, they have a good chance against Bedboom, but they need to pass LGD first.
Okay, alright.
Do you think Nightfall was cast to BM? Do you think he couldn't win a tournament?
I wasn't good at bringing it up.
I'm not sure Kersis exists. I think it's just like, I would say, a streak of something going wrong.
It's a bad thing, you know?
It's not like unlikely, it's like a streak of something going wrong, so something is going wrong every final, right?
Because he was close, that's finals also. So he just needs to figure out what's going wrong.
That's a very real answer.
Yeah, pragmatic of you. Well, look, Dm, thank you so much for joining us. Congratulations again on the way to make it to the grand final.
See you around.
See, yeah, he's going to go back and join his team there as well.
Have a lot of fun and prepare what they can for the grand finals
because the thing is they really don't know who they're coming up against
and they're not going to know until tomorrow as well because we talk about it.
There's still three teams left in that race.
We could potentially see Betboom go back into the grand finals,
go back up against them.
Or we could see one of our lower bracket teams either Aurora or LTD make that run too.
Yeah, I think Betboom definitely has the chops to make it back.
I will say this game was not their finest showing.
DM is saying it's a bit hard once they reach the later stages to go high ground, and that's true.
But I think there was a pretty big window in the earlier periods of this game where Bepham definitely could have fished the tempo.
There were some pretty big mistakes, but I think they are still very, very capable, especially if they clean things up.
I mean, I just like the fact that we're seeing Yandex, even BB, they're kind of generating these longer games.
Because even seeing the late game, seeing like the choices made,
sure the enigma didn't really pop off in like the black holes of the early to mid game,
but having that constant back and forth, right, is like the build that we want to watch.
So I am just happy that we are already kind of booking one team into the finals that will create these games which will, you know, make a memorable grand finals.
And Dan was right. It was, you know, one of those series where it's just two high school teams, a lot of mistakes, sometimes painful, sometimes not so much.
This side of Yandex, those more mistakes weren't necessarily a painful result, but for Bet Boom it was.
We wanted to know a little bit more about how they were feeling after series loss.
I'm here with Mero. That was honestly an incredible series to watch. It's rough, of course, and on the losing side of it,
That last game looked really back and forth, like, what was it that was so hard for you guys to cinch out the win?
They have a good heroes to play map, and they have Unlocker, Enigma, TA with the traps,
and also they have a trend protector who can delay the tower push, so very hard to play.
Do you guys feel like it was hard to meet your timing?
Because obviously you had like the Wyvern against Enigma,
and it felt like that was holding them off for a while.
Did they hit certain items that just made it kind of too much for you to deal with?
Not sure. I mean
That was a fair game actually, but they played good. So that's it
Yeah, I mean you both played amazing like we got some great teamfights out of it
The gameplay was just through the roof and obviously you're still in the tournament. You're now going down to the lower bracket
Up next we have Aurora and LGD and I'm wondering you know of those two
Is there a team you would prefer to face in the lower bracket finals?
We prefer to face Aurora of course because our friend is playing in this team and
Yeah, we're happy to play against both of the teams actually and if you get the run back in the grand finals
Against the Andex, what are you gonna have to change up to get that grand final win?
Not sure maybe
Bonobon and Locker or something like this. I'm not sure
that's what it felt like for
me or that was the key takeaway,
but it is the one step at a time.
They still have to know who is
potentially going to be going up
against them in the lower bracket
final tomorrow. I mean, he also
kind of shared the same kind of
sentiment to DM in the break down
like the push of Yandex, the map
play the cheesiness that even
there mentions like that was kind
of the bane to be visibility to
close out this game. So other
teams as well. So I think that
is the key takeaway. I mean,
I think that's the key takeaway
that's the key takeaway. But it
is the one step at a time. They
other teams as well. They can look at this and go, hmm, maybe if we can stretch out the
game, make it this annoying map play, that is one way to stop a team that was honestly
on a really strong path to making the Grand Finals themselves. So yeah, I think there's
a lot of learning to be done from BV themselves and teams who are meant to be playing against them
tomorrow. Yeah, it's a good read too. I think the Invoker was a big problem. And I think if they
had to redo, they definitely would have banned it instead of what their second phase ban was. So
it's, I think it's, it's cool to see that he's already kind of, they already have a feel for
that because I think they can feel it in the game that it's the only hero that
will fix things for them so people figure things off very quickly I think
if they do face each other in the grand finals it'd be very different drafts
and a very different game things will progress very quickly so I'm just
excited to see how things develop for the future of the tournament because
this series will have a pretty big impact on things I think. Yeah I mean that's a
big purpose to CJ right because that band that you're talking about that they
could have potentially put in Voker and it was a slaughter and that's something
else that you're worried about when you come up against CJ you don't want him
to get his hands on that either so I feel like we've spoken about we've
spoken about so many times and we've talked about CJ overall as a player but
He really is just coming to his own the way that he's able to pick certain matchups play a lot of unconventional heroes in mid as well
And now it's like actually we also have to think about the conventional heroes in Boca. Yeah, he's he's he's shown up a lot
And I think it's also a nice patch for him
I think he's got a lot of heroes that are within his wheelhouse that are very good and not a ton of the heroes that he's not
Super comfortable on our goods. So I think it's also it's a good timing for him as a player
I think he's probably hoping this patch stays around for a while
I think so as well but see with all of that knowledge the fact that there are still 14s left in Blastland 7 as of this moment
That was speaking if you had it over to poly market and you put in your prediction as to who would potentially win
Would you agree with what they put that it is Yandex as the highest 43%?
I mean they they are the first ones getting to the grand finals and making basic logic
Technically, but I feel it honestly looks pretty accurate some degree
maybe I think Aurora and LGD are a bit, you know, slighted by being that low. I feel like that probably should be on around like 14 to 15.
But I think yes, pretty fair right now.
I'd say I think Aurora specifically should be significantly higher. I think it's
8% is like doing a dirty at this point.
No, yeah, I think even a little bit. LGD, I think it's definitely, I feel it's about accurate. I don't think this team's chances are super high to win the
tournament. It's possible. But I think they've got a lot to overcome and prove to people. It would be quite an impressive run, I think for them.
if they were to win this tournament. Definitely don't expect it.
I mean, Sean, I'd say it's possible.
Yeah, it should be laddered, like LGD, Aurora, BB, Yandex.
It's kind of the natural ladder.
But again, that is literally using the playoff bracket
to formulate that ladder.
It's not as if I'm hitting any hot takes right now.
It's a fair statement, I feel.
It is definitely a fair statement.
Like you said, you took all the information that we have present.
Yandex being the first team to go into the grand finals.
It makes sense that they should be favorites.
But of course, we've got a wonder who exactly is going to meet
That boom in that lower bracket, who themselves is going to survive another day at Blast Slam?
We'll after the break we'll find out if it's LGD or Aurora.
I'm here with snaking who's the only person to agree to do contact with me
Definitely health hostage excellent we want to know how do you rate yourself as a player from 1 to 10?
I'm 7 right now. I think things could be better, but not too bad. Quinn, how would you rate snaking as a player out of 10?
Like I eat. That's good to know. All right, and how would you rate yourself as a player out of 10? Like a 7?
Really? 7? What? You want to go higher? No. How would you rate Quinn on a scale of 1 to 10 as a player?
It's either going to be like a 4.1 or a 6.9.
No, a 6.
6.7!
How would you rate Kezi was a player on a scale of 1 to 10?
Right now?
Sure.
Watson, how would you rate KJ on a scale of 1 to 10 as a player?
Five.
And how would you rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10?
Eight.
All right.
Yeah.
How would you rate Watson as a player from 1 to 10?
I would give you a two.
Okay, well, that's free.
And how would you rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10?
Thank you for sure.
That's good confidence.
All right, Yuma, rate Theo on a scale of 1 to 10 as a player.
I'll say 7.
Oh, that's actually very nice.
OK, and how would you rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10?
I'll say 5.
So humble.
And how do you think the panel is going
to rate you on a scale of 1 to 10?
I guess I'll play him though.
I personally, I think Yuma's pretty up there.
I'd put him in an 8.8 out of 10.
8.8 is pretty good.
It's around where he should be.
I'm gonna go with 8.4. I give him a 7.5 a 7.5
I'm gonna do them dirty a little bit. Yeah, it's into the judge. Yes, and because well, they're fourth
Well, they're still in the tournament. Oh, Roars also fought by your logic. Yeah idiots
But I think Roars favored and I think both the boom and Yanix are better, but it's not about the team
It's about the player, but I think generally the teams are composed of better players
I think Dota as much as it is a team game. I think it's a lot about individual
I
Asked me what I read another player. No, okay
I'd rest my case. How about you execute? No, I want to hear I want to hear it's done
It's opinion about the judge's degree whisper whisper like a like a 8.9
That's fair. It had to be above 8.7 cause whisper to me. It definitely does this guy. He's the man for the scene
I agree. He is reason to the judge
Because he's good because when he plays well, they are good
But the problem is he's very emotionally based, you know, he needs to have his heroes, his teammates, the vibes.
But if he's got that, 10-0, 10-0, 10-0, 12-0. Boom, easy win.
Zero deaths. Nightfall.
Always. BKB TP out.
Which Nightfall has not been doing a lot.
No, this bro, it's all...
There has been a couple times that he's tried and he still died during the BKB TP out.
It's a sign.
The problem is, sometimes you've got a BKB TP.
It's just how it is.
Mm-hmm.
Go Dota sometimes, you get in there, you think, oh, this is a good fight, this is a good fight.
Jokes on you, sucker. It's a bad fight. Get the hell out of there.
It's true.
You got to retreat a little bit like that. I mean, that's a tough thing when you come up against a team like Aurora,
but I want to stay talking about LGT a little bit more.
I'll give you another player to rate and give you a reason for the rating.
Okay.
The Eloquor himself also rated quite high.
I think it's a good name, but...
Yeah, the 10 of it much. I think he's got the most to prove in this team.
I give him like a 7, because I think...
Sorry, but you were going to give Ymir a 7.5.
Yeah.
But that larger Yuma should be like at 8.5 I think.
Yeah.
Because Yuma is above the Olico unless you're just you don't want to go under the steps yet.
I did put him above.
Yeah, but so little.
Oh yeah, but okay, but the thing is I don't think any of them besides I think it whispered
the highest.
Okay.
We agree.
How about Tylong Daddy?
He's also at 8 or above.
I don't know if you can say that actually.
My bad, anyway.
I think I can.
I just did actually.
I'm just saying anyway.
People leave the reasons about the 8.
I don't know if you can't say that.
I think Tylong is probably like 8.8.
Didn't you say Whistler was 8.7?
9.
9?
You said 8.7, he said 8.9, so 8.9 and then Tylong's 8.8 and then you're putting, you're at 7.5, and you're putting the Olycour at 7, so where do you put KJ?
About the Olycour.
7.4.
I think he's doing decent, you know, KJ is sort of a team play, he's got low hero damage, but that's because he plays all the heroes for the team.
He plays the Omni, plays the Wind Environment, he plays the Train.
He's going for the lowest damage done while still winning a lot of games, which I respected.
Exactly, the MelkaWard for least damage.
I don't... I wasn't aware that would exist.
The MelkaWard?
Yeah.
That's the 0-21.
Yeah, it's 0-20 and win the game.
Oh, okay, yeah, no, I didn't know that. I've never won it in my life, so it's new information for me.
You should try that in your pubs, it's really good.
Yeah, it's really good.
It's a good trap.
Let's focus back up on the eloquence. You gave him a 7.47, sorry for a reason of?
I think he is the one with the most approval in this team. I think he has some shaky games. I think he has a relative small hero pool.
And I also think that this team in and of itself has a lot to prove. And so I think it's hard to read any of them super, super highly because none of them really achieve that much.
I think a lot of how you rate a player is based off of public opinion. It's off of achievements. And I don't think either of those for this team is super high yet.
This is the first good tournament they've had in quite a while. They've had a pretty down period before this.
team. I think they have the most to prove anyone here. I think they are all the lowest rated players
for good reason because they haven't really achieved very much. And I think honestly,
achievements matter the most. If you don't have the facts to back up your, you know, your big talk,
then the talk is nothing. And for me, that's kind of what this team is right now. They've got a lot
of talk and they've had some okay results, but it's not the same as the big dogs. Well, the talk
keeps coming because whilst you've been talking, I did a rare also had a chat with the Yolokor.
So let's see what words came out from their talk together.
Very exciting question before your game. I was having breakfast this morning and KJ came by.
He told me you like chess. Do you guys play within your team?
Yeah, actually I play a lot. Puppy teaching me how to play yet. Let's hear. So I start to learn and
I'm completely obsessed with it.
Would you say you are the best player in your team at chess?
For sure, I don't.
Do you think, then, that being better at chess makes you better at Dota?
I think so. It's both a very strategic game, so I think it makes sense.
So basically what you're saying is like, you're the smartest person on your team?
Yes.
Um, okay. Well, I'm very excited to watch you guys play. I have really enjoyed watching
LGD. I think you guys are so fun. What do you think is the most interesting thing about
your team?
I think it has to be a diverse activity because we can play a lot of heroes. So like, I don't
know what is the character of play them.
So I was having breakfast this morning and I was wondering, what's your chest rating?
Uh, I think it's like 1.2 or something. It's kind of bad.
That means nothing to me, by the way.
It's not that good. I mean, it's okay.
It's like something average.
It's fine.
Give it to me in Dota attempts.
Um, like...
Do you even know that rank?
Like 4K? Is it like 4K maybe?
And legend might be one under what you just said.
4K MMORH?
Like, yeah.
Ancient?
I think it's like...
It's like 4K. No, it's worse ancient.
I wouldn't have any other rank.
Whatever the rank before ancient is.
Pretty sure is it not legend?
Maybe it's high legend, maybe.
So then I was right. It's not that bad. It's okay.
Yeah, okay.
So I'm telling the legend players out there.
That's what I'm saying.
Keep it up.
Keep it up there.
And we're talking about the factors of what makes LGD at the moment,
but then you look at them against Aurora who have had a solid run
as a team overall throughout this whole season.
I'm not talking about just Blast Slam.
As a team, they have been incredibly what feels like consistent
in how they've been able to deliver.
Sometimes you also call them consistent in that draft,
whether that's a positive or negative.
Well, yeah, they've got kind of the, I think they have both sides to them, where it's like, sometimes it's really good, sometimes it's not that good, but I think overall these are still two of the teams that are, I would say, finding their true form overall in the tournament, because they have shown us really, really good things, but also some of the things that are overall also not that good.
good. Yeah, especially this Aurora team. I think they are like the
thing you said about two consistent, I think bears a little truth that they
they run the same stuff over and over and over again and there's value there
and that can be very powerful. But I also think it's it can be a downside if
the stuff is not really robust, you're not really really good at it. And
because you're just walking into the same game, everyone knows what you're
going to do. It's worked really well for teams like Falcons in recent history,
especially you think of, but also when Falcons, when their heroes are not in
meta or when it's tricky for them, it can be really rough. And so I think
Aurora is in a spot right now where the heroes are cool and they're good.
And so it's flourishing and they're working, but there is that potential that the the lack of
Sort of versatility like lgd has can bite you actually. Yeah, I think that that is definitely gonna put our either to the limits
And test that for them or it could even just break them completely because lgd are constantly bringing out new things
They're flexing a lot of things to different roles and what feels like the most consistent aspect is coming from the humor and the kj
Safe lane duo, but I do know tea while he isn't here with us
He did sit down with KG to have a bit more of a closer in-depth look at a bit of a replay.
See I just wanted to talk to you about the kind of seven minute move in which you kind of smoked
Umid to the mid lane and the kind of the concept of just how aggressive you guys are and how it's kind of breaking a lot of teams in the playoffs.
I thought that the key for someone. It's okay. It's okay. It's fine. So here basically
Okay, we can start. Yeah, let me go back to when we smoke.
So here basically we just pushed the lane and he is very strong and we know that this 80 minute rune is very important
There's no way that this is not gonna have ultimate or something like this because she has very weak
and
That's basically because just because the lane is pushed and they have to do it this way
So they're gonna be later than us and we know that they really want this room because if it managed to get the runes
We can like slow their pace and they really they really want to play fast this game and
And the good thing about like you managed to do this like this laundry the wave is here
I don't know exactly why the wave is here, but like he should have had with the way we've pushed
Because he's the half on this lane and the guy this guy here is the better with no aura
Yeah, so like because we managed to push and spoke he didn't manage to do the same and some connect
So we're gonna start the fight because the lanes pushed I had one question
I see was here when you make this move to mid and you can feel like you're chasing into the fog
Do you ever kind of second guest a move or do you always just kind of go?
You know what we need to commit because we've already kind of dried the resources
Because it felt like you're kind of reaching a little bit in the moment
Here go with my feeling
I'm just like I'm gonna press my spouse. Well, I'm saying title and get close to him and
We start out a bit because I could want to go dive
But then like I think you know I was saying that it was gonna be long to be there something like that
And I think here we were dying fine and then we start kiting and then like the loans gonna TP
And then you must said oh, it's long TP. It's fine. And then we could I can't it's long TP
So we kept going when we had a deal as well. So we were pretty confident
And then the best thing about his walk is self TPing that now this guy has to come here
Yeah, and then it gives room for our timber. He's like, huh, there's no one to bully me here anymore
Yeah, but then the funny thing is that
He's in skill the meta with no R, he forgot he's a meta and then this guy comes and kills him.
And I guess the same argument is with Top lane, right? Like because you shoved in Top, Drow can just naturally go back Top lane.
So like this mid move actually doesn't really punish you, other than of course whisper dying, based on his positioning.
Yeah, I think Drow didn't even, let's see, this is the one wave she didn't farm.
And then she lost one wave, victory for the move.
So even though people say that you're kind of a very aggressive team and like you're kind of chaotic
There's still a lot of like discipline and understanding of like the moves aren't just
Truly in the moment. It's like you've kind of pushed the correct waves understood the positioning
But your vision as well that you have insane vision this game to be able to make this move because you have the double ward behind the towers
Yeah, this game is
It's a bit of feeling and it's a bit of a preplan
Like if for some reason we could not push this way even the way it would be here
Like you will never be able to do this move
I'm just saying that should be more than enough evidence to raise all of the plays ratings just even a little bit
I'm including what we're talking about the fact that like KJ humor having solid lanes together
But also we're seeing humor rotate towards mid
He's being way more active on a variety of heroes. It's not just one hero that he's being more active as a carry player
It's multiple and it's helping that mid lane
It's creating so much more space on the map for everyone. It's just go play
Yeah, he's more than a 7.5
Upgrade to a 7.8.
Overruling him 7.8.
Look at the duo though, all of you are in KJ though. The amount of games they've had together wins together.
Maybe no longer the losses. 53% win rate is a duo. What's your duo win rate?
Probably not that good.
I mean we've played in NA 4-Bit so it's maybe not that bad but towards the end I think...
I will say 53 is also kind of a... like when you compare it to some of the big dog teams.
Like what is Falcon's win rate together?
Really high.
Yeah, like over 60%.
But the thing is they're on the upwards trend. So you know the win rate will rise up and the other thing
That's on the upwards trend for both of these teams. They have really cool drafts
I think also especially like the most recent ones you had Aurora
They had a really really cool a a pick and their most recent series against like it was the yeah
Like it was against the Chen which was super good and the Cotto and LGD as well like dark series not a hero
You see that often. I think it's the same for Naga
So while there are a lot of very good heroes in the meta
I think neither of these teams really shy away from busting out something that they think will completely ruin what you want
Yeah, I love that. I love the dark sir clock work against our ranger
I feel like people have had really kind of stupid responses to draw a lot of ways and I think over the past couple of days
We've had way better stuff whether it be the dirt from bet boom or the dark seer from LGD
I've loved these answers and I think sometimes they pull like deep into the Dota history bucket and they come out with some cool
So other times they put their hand in the bucket and they come out with like a big fish
So I think we need to we need the we need the good stuff because I think the creativity can be very powerful
But you also need to know when to rein it in and be kind of realistic with hey
this here might be too bad to actually pick.
I mean, it's true. They did have a Omega Overcook.
The biggest Overcook of the draft that also belongs to LGD
with the, you know, the Largo Alchemist do miss it open.
Woohoo, that was, don't do that again.
But the rest, that was the first game after a little bit of a break.
I feel like you can push that one to the wayside.
They've improved. They've proven themselves as well, Kazoo.
They have proven themselves,
but some of the things are like so not good
that I can't just like didn't happen.
Well, I promise you this time around,
And this best of three on the verge of elimination for either LGD or Aurora, it's going to be
a much better draft.
In fact, we're going to get a game one draft and see how good it is.
than when we start a Blossom set.
I'm so glad we have a pretty good amount of juice dropped again.
Yeah.
Don't do it.
So giving up Lunterd first of all, this is a choice.
I don't know if it's a good choice.
It's a bold choice, that's for sure.
So you must have an idea to go up against this.
And Techies doesn't, it seems like a whatever burger,
as a response, at least for here.
If anything, I would argue Lunterd is good against Techies,
because you have this big fat bear who can sort of demine the areas.
Like it's not going to die or get bursted.
So if you run into some gate or, I don't know,
down some random sideline, it's not just going to pop
like some squishy hero.
That's generally what's nice against Techies.
or one of the things. It's stuff like illusions, summons they can run in, or stuff like TA that doesn't care about the mines.
Low 100 falls into the last category, so to me this is really, really weird.
Yeah, also when it comes to the laning, Lowen doesn't really care that much about techies.
Like you just still pretty much a mega free farm as you do in most of the matchups.
So I do hope that LGD will understand, okay, techies is overall a good hero.
It is a solid laner, and you can have, you know, a bit of map control, you can amplify magic damage.
You need to build on top of this, because right now I am not sold that this is a good trade.
Yeah, there's another dynamic where maybe Techies is trying to play to kill Laundryd, you're trying to abuse suicide or something.
But if you are doing that, Laundryd can just skill the yell and fear you away and you will not, like he can just yell you in mid suicide and he will not do anything.
So I'm not sure if they've thought this through fully, maybe they've tried and some scrimmage worked really well, but I need to see it to believe it because I don't really understand the reason for this counter pick.
Especially against a hero with powerful is laundry
Do you need something oomph that I can really respond to this here because sort of passively drafting its laundry is not acceptable
You need to actually respond to it or he will laundry with you
And we've seen it countless of times before like this here will freeform and if you can't match like his midgame map play
You're gonna get cooked. So I do hope that they you know have a bit of an understanding
So how do you shut him down in lane?
And if you don't that at least you have the midgame where you can fight back whether it's some of the heroes that we seen like an
on the Lord, maybe a Timber. I think maybe it was Whisper who played Timber yesterday.
I don't know if it was against Kez or Laundroid. Obviously he didn't do well in the early game,
but those type of heroes still match very well later on if you get there.
It is true.
It was a Timber Balloy.
They're taking a little bit on the bands, not something crazy.
So other bands is very particular to me. They're going to pick Double Sub here. So this is fine,
To me, that's all it is, right?
It's fine, these heroes don't say anything,
particularly it's two skirmishing fighting heroes.
Sure, it's fine, they have good early game,
but there's nothing really wrong with these heroes per se,
but they're not addressing anything in particular.
I think oftentimes whenever someone picks a hero,
you want to respond to it in a way that feels direct,
something that either counters that hero
or offers up something that now the enemy team
needs to respond to.
You don't need to respond to Techies hoodwink.
They don't force anything back the other way.
And so I think it's gonna feel like
for these upcoming picks for LGD
that now they need to still respond to loanjured
and Aurora doesn't have anything that they particularly are scared of.
Yeah, like the double pick that's coming up for LGD is quite scary and very important for them.
Like when you have to pick on 16-17, which is LGD's next double pick,
and you have to pick two cores back to back, you really need to like hit the nail in the coffin.
Because if the 18 pick for Aurora can counter like all the things that are coming out,
you're definitely in a lot of trouble.
Yeah, you do steal away the hoodwink, which is at least one upside.
We've seen Mirabee really effective on it and the heroes sort of had a resurgence where it was losing a lot to be any of the tournament
Yeah, and I think now near toward the end of it. It started to look a lot better again
Especially yesterday didn't hoodwink to okay yesterday. Oh, sorry. I see how different here. Yes, you're right about it
Okay, the lion here. I think you're thinking yes
Quite a dip off and so I think now I wonder if they're looking at that here
Which I think can work here
Intended with Phoenix because Phoenix usually some of that damage that lion lacks a little bit also probably even this loan
Like if you think a bit about how long plays nowadays as opposed to who used to play in the past
He's like the ready bear, you know the bear goes around with some shadow blade
You have one line with some blink hex done boom. See you later
Yeah, that was where my brain was going whereas like oh who does pink normally then the other team will pick line
Yeah, the most thing about how bad it did yesterday and it's winter at that
So thank you for keeping me honest Quinn. Of course, of course, so friends are four. So true
She's a friend. Yeah, that's good. Keep that up
That was me!
No, it wasn't.
I was being sarcastic, I apologize.
Yeah, take it back.
And I don't mean to steer any drum. I'll redact my second statement.
Oh, the second one!
So I think we're all doing very well.
We're all friends.
That's true.
LDD, I was gonna ask for a rating on that drop, but I feel like with the Kimba.
Yeah, let's wait for... what's this one?
And the Tiny.
Oh, you guys aren't jumping at a tiny jump.
Tiny is a good carry, Phoenix is just incredibly good against Tiny.
I'm a big Phoenix believer and playing into this carry, Tiny is quite good for you.
Also, none of these heroes currently hit the egg.
Like while I see the rationale for Timber, we talked about it before, it's okay against
Lone Druid when the bear hits you, you get Hero stacks on the Reactive Armor which counts
as 4, so that's a lot, but it's still not a very great lane and I don't think it answers
that much of what Aurora currently have.
I also think LGD have a problem of when you're playing against Phoenix and Laundry, you need sustained DPS because they have a lot of effective HP.
If you look at LGD's heroes, it's a lot of burst and it's a lot of in-the-moment damage, but it's not a lot of sustained damage.
So if you're playing a long fight against Aurora, which they have great tools to do, they've got a lot of poke, a lot of in-and-out between slight chains,
or lion's none from far away, a bear that's really tanky, it's not easy for LGD to win the fights quickly.
And I don't know if they have the damage to win them in the long run.
Yeah, the good thing for them is that they have Las Vegas, so Tylong, he can absolutely cook, and I hope he will cook with his pick.
Because, currently to me it seems like he absolutely will have to do that, and they also need to cover their Tiny.
Since Aurora, they still have WS's pick that can come out later.
What kind of options do we have? You have Lion as a 4, so you're pretty chill in the lane.
There's heroes like maybe Underlord overall, could be something against the Tiny.
Yeah, Underlord is not great against Timbersaw, but it's good against everything else, I'd say.
Um, yeah, they banned the classic WS Donbaker.
I mean, all the heroes that he's played a lot this tournament are banned so far.
In the Doom Axe Timbers picked and Donbaker's banned, so he's going to have to play, has
he even played a different hero?
Played Pango yesterday.
Oh, he did play Pango.
It was a Largo game.
It kind of really struggled.
I don't think the Pango did.
It did.
It at least took a while to get online.
I wasn't too impressed.
Yeah, I also don't think pango is particularly good this game
I wouldn't say it's good against tiny in a lane-to-lane matchup from mid pango
The tiny is pretty good because you don't have to deal with the early period
But I feel like you might have a rough landing phase if you're playing pango offline against a tiny techies presumably
Logo, Tide, and Centaur are the other three that he has played this tournament
Like Tide the least out of those
Lagros, something that can work. You have pretty high base damage when it comes to laning.
You at least have Ember to play with. And I think having heroes like Ember, Storm, Qwap
who's just like some semi-dispel or some guy who amps you up is always pretty strong.
I think I like your suggestion of the Underlord the most. At the end of the day, it's one
Timbersaw and you're going to have a Mage Slayer on Ember. You've got a lot of other
heroes you got a lot of stuff to keep you away from I don't think it's that easy for him to just stick on you in every fight and
Burst you so I think it's probably their best option. I mean also like to go back to
The tiny timber pick which I think I find for LGD is also important that eventually you need to build your own draft
Which they did but Phoenix is not just good against like tiny from like a spell type of you
You know with fire spirits and egg you also build vessel which is very good against both timber and tiny
Maybe ember wants to go, you know straight match there. He can also build vessel himself
which is why I think the Ember pick is also quite juicy for Aurora, which is also why you have LGD, Aurora Band-Out, Bat and Viper.
There must still be some heroes in the pool that still make the Ember's life at least harder than it is currently.
I mean, I think Necrophos is the potential best one.
Ooh, Necros.
Dope.
I don't know if Tylong plays it, but also the other issue with it is if you're not really good at the early game period
and you play it quite cleanly, you can run into a problem where this vessel and the mage slayer become super-valued.
Yeah.
With Timbersaw and Necro, those heroes are kind of bad together, because they're very similar.
They're these blob heroes that hate Vessel, they hate mage slayer, they have a lot of similar counters, they don't sustain DPS.
So many of these, like, the traits these heroes have overlap.
So if you do pick Necro, then if you don't play well, then it's very easy for Aurora to itemize against you.
Yeah, I struggle a bit because I do see the threat of the Necro potentially for LGD, but it does make that draft a little bit weird in a way too.
Sniper? It's a great sniper game.
Always a sneaver.
Yeah, good call in the end of the road. I think it's the best pick.
Yeah, it's just good against these heroes. We also lane very well with the Lion.
I mean, Orange has a very strong solid draft. There's nothing really wrong with it, honestly.
Everything makes sense.
It's very solid.
Yeah. I don't think there's any... I don't think you can even really point at any points
in the draft to say it's a mistake. I think at most you could argue, ah, this year was
slightly better, but I think outside that, it's just... there's nothing wrong with it
at all.
I don't even know... can you play Sniper here?
I think you can.
I will be happy at least if I'm on the run and I will gait on your ass minute seven.
Yeah, I mean like the I think the thing it's not it's not that easy to kill sniper early with honor lord
I think it's better later in the game, especially you get eggs and a toes and things like this. Okay. There's also rushing eggs
Yeah, I've got a minute
I'm really good. Oh my god. Yes. He'll have a minute six. No, but I this aspect is very difficult
Obviously, it's into ember so it's not like the hardest to find one where it's like, okay
You do well in the match up, but you've got a lot of other areas that you need to deal with because timber
He won't win his lane. He will do okay, but these sightings you want to help them, but you want to do well yourself
It's the best
A-Hacken man tie along my goat
It's good against ember and lane. It's amazing if longer in the game
Underrollers actually bit too sided because he gets on top of you. You need to buy BKB
I think that's a really important part of this matchup is you want silver edge
You want BKB at some point in the game?
But this hero scales incredibly against longer
I think you ultra outscaling because the bear just can't get near you
You press take aim and you shoot it a million times and there's no way for it to fight you just push it away into oblivion
You can grenade away. There's only a lot of tools against the laundry. So I love this pick
I think it's their best pick by far
And it gives them a chance against a very solid or overdraft
I have a feeling that maybe they picked this not but just to try and win Queen over a little bit
I mean probably
You'll hurry up to 7.2. You didn't even do anything
This it's it's time to upgrade some ratings. I think in this game if LGD want to do well
I do like that also LG were in the point where they needed a they needed a spicy last pick in my mind
I'm also wondering a bit about the the mid matchup
I think if Ember does fine there and they can play through the lane with like Phoenix comes over and on the road can like look at
The lane a lot it could be a bit hard
But if Tylon can do very well in the lane, which I assume he does against Ember
Yeah, I think you're supposed to kill strap no level one and you just keep shrapneling the waves
I think I've played this line before against Tapsen. Yeah, and he he only he only pretty hard
And so I think this is a lane and I play the inverse as the sniper and I own the ember pretty hard
So I think it's a bit tricky for ember if sniper knows what he's doing
And I think it's also really hard to gank if you max shrapnel you push the wave out
The heroes can't actually get near you because the wave is just dead from ghosts from a while away
And so a lot about the individual stuff too
I think like how well you can do in that lane because if LGD can hold I do like what they have like eventually
Their course gets very very tanky and they have a buttload of damage between their course like it doesn't really stop
So unless Aurora can you know find a way to like engage a fight or have some early game momentum
Which I think there is definitely a world war they can because they also have very solid links themselves
Their supports can be freed up, but I would say that LGD found a way to bring that draft back together
I think so too. I think I don't know if they're favorite per se
It's probably still a bit harder than this laundry heroes is kind of stupid
But I do think it's playable and if their execution is good enough. They absolutely can win this game
It's not one of these games. That's sort of doomed from the start
It should be just an exciting game to look over, because I do favor Aurora, but there
are ways obviously for these heroes to also crack.
Loan and Unlord are very specific in what they do and what they need.
They need timings and a good lane, a good early game.
So, you know, LG, it's time to bring the A game.
Okay, they're going to look their best.
They're going to be their best.
And we're going to head on over to Rhea, who's in her natural environment right now, standing
next to an Australian.
I love my Australians, and I have KP here with me.
Are you worried about this sniper last pick?
Definitely not.
Oh?
Yeah, no, how?
After all the good things they said about it in the matchup, it's just nothing?
Nothing, just, you know, cold blooded.
Okay, I like to hear that.
How much of an advantage does it put you in in the draft when the enemy respects your
puck so much that they're first phase banning it?
To be honest, I think these days the draft, first phase banning is like, it's like kind
of whatever.
place banning drow is like, you know, we respect them, they respect us.
Yes, fair game.
I saw the draw band was like to set up your loan Druics.
You have all this extra space.
Oh, you know something.
Oh, I don't know anything.
I'm not revealing strats.
This is completely fine.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
What are our key timings here?
What, what are we looking for?
Uh, we're going to earn top eight two lane in my prediction.
Underlord line at bot another like seven three mid is like five five.
I'd say, uh, he told me, so I'm expecting a five five.
So we're gonna just gonna like do well in lanes and then we're gonna like up to 10 per
All right sounds like a hype matchup. Let's throw to our casters. Oh, do you fight?
Thank you very much to Alice in KPA looking forward to this one and indeed the sniper
So KP seems pretty unfazed by it. Do you think he's right with that or could it be there?
That's sort of the tough spot the rough spot
Could this mid lane become kind of difficult for the Ember in the early game?
Mikado's been very good. His spirits are something to be reckoned with so if he says it's 5-5
You know he better come out 5-5 in that we'll be watching that very closely here
It's time ladies and gentlemen to get into the action of this lower bracket semi-final
here we go of course Aurora versus LGD this game bought you by the official live prediction
market BlastFam Polymarket and yeah let's find out this last pick sniper always fun
to see some of these mids bring out. One of the panel does talk about a lot, because there's
a lot of these matches, right, where, yeah, Quinny, he's always looking for the zombie
pick, where it's, it does make sense, right, in the lane, you have the potential, if you,
what, kind of get a good start in the first couple of ways, first couple of levels to completely
zone the enemy mid out. And that was something that Aurora were definitely concerned about
with their draft, right, because they were banning out all these other heroes that could
could potentially bully the Ember early.
Yeah, but you have to play pretty perfect on the sniper,
I would say.
Even like two mistakes on the zero is too much.
A lot of times when you're playing versus gap closers,
and they are playing versus a triple gap closers in a way,
right, the Ember, the Underlord, the Phoenix,
can't just get on top of you very early.
So, I mean, for Tyler, I feel like he has to win the lane,
and he has to win it pretty hard in a way.
Because the other two side lanes do look quite Aurora
favorite, I would say.
This Lone Druid seems to be untouchable in the lane overall.
And yeah, at Lone, Underlord overall is also very good here
versus the Tiny.
high base damage, percent damage as well too, atrophy aura, super good of course, versus
that tiny as well too in the lane, and you have to mention sniper to get nerfed, right?
So the-
A little bit of nerf, right?
It's a little bit.
It will affect the laning a bit, right?
Well, what we got?
What was the nerf again?
You lose, you just don't, you have keen scope on the NICE.
So in terms of dominating lane, perhaps that could change things.
And you know, let's see how Tylenc does end up doing, because we were looking also, he
does play this a fair bit, and he does do the build that we like to see, the silver edge
in most situations.
So, let's see how it does end up going down.
And that's who buys the vessel. I imagine it's gonna be the Ember.
It's an insane vessel gameplay versus Tiny and the Timbersaw.
So, I imagine they wanna get it as fast as possible on him.
Let's see how much attention gets put on the mid lane.
I'm gonna be able to hand him to the bounty rune there, which does mean that LGD will secure themselves.
Three of the bounty runes to start this one off.
And let's see if the you know the first pick techies something that they're trying as a perhaps response to the laundry in a way
What the effect of this hero is gonna be?
His taser definitely has its merits. It's gotten nerfed as well
But can actually see how it can ensure a better lane
Hopefully to the timbersaw because I've just seen this laundry fully and it is K already playing a signature hero
As always he's playing as Phoenix. He does get to get at this time around and it's a pretty solid Phoenix game besides the sniper
I mean, it is right here. As you say, again, some of these beefier heroes having the Phoenix having the Underlord
It's gonna give them some real solid answers
Yeah, it is it pretty much is one of the best if not the best five position versus timber and tiny at all stages in the game
Super strong with the Sunray very effective with the fire spirits in the mid game also
And they just came at egg so it's all gonna be up to that sniper really to hit the egg in the mid game
We're gonna watch I think we just got to watch this mid lane quite a lot here
I'll take a look if there's gonna be kills on the sides, but I think this mid lane is the big one
Because as we heard, you know KP said that what Makoto told him, he was like, don't worry about this
This is gonna be 50-50 in the mid lane for what they're gonna get out of it
Usually it is not, but we'll have to see how much of a photo's there with the two
I do too
See how much pressure Tylen can indeed put onto the end, but
They're on these early waves under the tower
Yeah, because I think the top lane, it's impossible
for the Timbersaw to overall win, so they have to do some type of lane shenanigans with this techie,
so it isn't the best lane puller in general.
Bottom, they do hit level 2 first.
Am I gonna try and make a play with their head, getting the...
on to the bow for them?
Short on Manob for the Hex by 2.
If he actually has the Hex there, I think it's gonna be much closer for them to bring down that Tiny.
He's gonna get the side pull for Mira, so this is a very good side pull.
He's actually got the Dark Troll Summoners here.
Should deny a fair bit versus this Tiny.
There's bottom lane, it feels very hard for them to get aggressive ever on the WS with
these two.
If there's a third kill location, sure.
Oh.
Oh my king jungler's up, bring it here now.
Super low there.
Not quite enough yet with the burst combo from just the two of them either.
I like that they're just harassing him instead of throwing the spells on the underlord as
much right now.
Just don't let Mira poke you constantly there from the side.
Yeah, so far in mid, 11-5, 8-0.
Now, at the least, definitely not getting, you know, super harassed, not kept low on
the end of the spirit.
Makoto able to stay pretty strong in the lane and at least keep his presence, obviously
getting up to the creep wave is a bit of a different story.
Not able to contest the CS too much here on the first level.
I thought they could get the catch this time, I'll get the first one.
These two side lanes are designed for Aurora to just win as we heard too also from KP.
They're just super high damage, double disables inside of the pit.
With the Firestorm it's insane damage down here.
And also Tiny didn't have to mention this one too, right?
Carrie Tiny got nerfed.
I kind of significantly in comparison to a lot of other heroes, so...
Sure, because a lot of heroes, the changes were pretty minimal.
They were pretty minimal.
The ones that actually had at least a little bit more than a minimal change do stand out. Mm-hmm
1968 I long explain it very nice here so far
So gonna be a rotation on the early water room probably not I don't know for Rora wants to break these the power of these sidelines
I think it's just Makoto you got to deal with it for now
Once the power room the six minute rune comes up likely of rotation nice device
I long
It's looking pretty good for Thailand.
Yeah, but it's very, very easy to rotate on him in this.
Sure.
So, has to keep it up and has to be very aware of his positioning.
Actually making the move for the rune as well to ensure that the Ember doesn't get the fill-up as well.
I just keep him Makoto pretty measurable, not able to get that refill with the water in.
Bottom lane, King Jungles!
He'll get out with the blood!
He's going down!
Last gonna do it!
Mera's got him!
If he can get the bounty rune in time, he cannot.
Almost ends up preventing Makoto with the fill-up.
Yeah, that would have been super rough. At least getting the fill up. He can farm a camp.
Yeah, he can go back to the jungle here.
So Theo, you have to just accept this at this point, right?
So Timber's not getting a whole lot, so just go back, get those stacks at the ready.
So Kayari, this time around, usually they're very good about blocking the stacks versus the Timbersaw near the game so far.
No stacks are blocked, so we're definitely gonna see a lot of them being formed from Theo.
Oh, this attacks me slow.
He's got a TP out.
Yeah.
No damage for a second.
Nice around with the damage coming out underneath Kaori.
Level 3 has been hit for Kaori, so this attack speed slows it very significantly now.
Farm looking pretty good for Yuma on the bottom.
It is.
They might have had a lot of pressure on to King Jungles getting his two kills against the Hoobling,
but the tiny things continue to be pretty chill from down there against the Underlord.
Expected it to be a little bit worse, to be honest, so that's pretty big for Yuma, I would say.
Kajori now though is going through the gate. They scanned just before this and anticipating his move, but it doesn't connect
So this might catch them off guard here
I'm just seeing if WS get me setup
I'll get the kill and indeed in the mid making that move before Mikoto is able to hit the six boy
Taking down and hit the rotation coming in to try and counter play mirror
You know first of the tree and Yuma back under the tower. He'll actually survive
KJ looks he will probably burn down when we're hit
But a 3 man rotation and they get the trade kill.
You'll take that if you're on the side of LGDN.
Killing the Ember before the 6 minute power rune,
it should ensure that Tylen's just able to just get it.
Or the techies just take the way.
Nice one as well, amplified damage ring.
Really nice one.
Take that, continue to speed up the farm here on the snipe.
Push the tower even potentially here,
since they don't really have a mid laner.
You could put a lot of pressure onto this tier 1 right now.
And again, Theo, I love his early game so far.
Buying the boots immediately, he knows he can't...
He's not like a laner, he's just moving around constantly,
So he's gonna go for it.
He tried to get some levels mid, straight away, gets blown up in the combat,
blast off into the assassinate.
Theo is enabling this sniper pretty beautifully so far here.
Level 7 now for Tyling, Makoto only level up.
Step a bit far up on the lane, Marius having to get the wrap around.
No mana for Pit, just yet they do have it now.
Is there enough right clicks?
Oh, that's not gonna do it.
Yuma's gonna live.
Again, one managed, like two or three managed short for the Pit this time around.
Earlier was the hex that they didn't have the mana force for Yulia surviving
Not full of course. I'm setting up getting complete free farm up here
Well, they're able to bully whisper out the lane
Oh, now we get to watch the my my most favorite thing, you know, I love this so much on when he just sits the bear
And you just have to stand there. I
Hate this we just got away for the patch
Another one. We just had one, but we've got to wait for another way for another one where the bear can't do this when he's not close
Somebody in half a quarter saw this it was like yeah, it's fun. It's in the end
Yeah, keep it you guys gotta bring two heroes to go either kill the bear or try to push it
It's you just have to sit here
Okay, they're bringing more heroes over can they kill it?
They will get the bear at least some money for whisper
That's the positives that you can do versus it when they are playing over aggressive with it that you get the money
that's quite nice. Mikoto gets space though, that Sniper had the TP over so
Mikoto said great job I needed that. Bottom Kaori putting pressure on this
tower here. Why not this will give the stacks to the Sniper. Oh. You all up
Tyler, he's already at the top of the game. He can even further at the top. I'm
okay with him taking the medium camp I don't know if I'm okay with him taking
agents from the chamber. I feel like Whisper needs those
I don't want to see if the sniper takes those.
It also just takes a while for the sniper to kill the extra chars in the chamber.
The chamber just gets six and clears them very, very quickly, so...
Alright, Makoto, he's chilling as got a hasteroon.
Did you try and go for him?
Yup, he's just fine.
This is a pretty important rune too, because it's to ensure that he can just survive here.
People have to position himself for perhaps an aggressive move.
This is a very early tier one bottom too, so WS now, he has Veins gate at the ready.
So this is the worry for the sniper at these moments.
has to be very aware of the positioning.
Easy, Karin. I'm gonna feel the call.
Mikoto, dragging the wave, or attempting to.
Highline, just hitting him.
More damage.
Be careful.
Very hard to sit in the rain now against the sniper.
Whisper, has hit the six.
So we'll be able to go back and farm that camp very soon,
and it's kept his tower pretty healthy.
Little casual blast off there from Theo.
Mirror here. Ready to back up knife fall in case anyone else turns up to try and make a play.
Against the lone Druid.
So the trade-off, right? It's your mid is owning, but your side lanes are absolutely suffering because of all this.
So, Tylong, let's see what she chooses to go for this game. This is pretty interesting.
It's got a defusal.
Oh! Yeah.
Okay, I obviously look at what the disperse is eventually, right?
Yeah, it's gonna be good to dispel chains eventually in all these different things
It's not the usual pick up we do see where they just like dragon lands and the silver edge
It is one of those lines a special sniper. If that's gonna be your first item it
That timing can be a bit underwhelming. Yeah, I don't know watch out the snipers got at the fusel said nobody
We'll have to see how effective it's gonna be in this game
I did Amanda bird, you know little pokes and all that is gonna be pretty nice versus an ember and an underlord perhaps unexpected as well
I
Want to see a steel a corn does this spell does this arm
But he does burn down
I mean he's gonna have the diffuser very funny pretty much right now, so
Yeah, we'll see if this pays off I mean, yeah, I mean
Obviously it's gonna be great down the line with the upgrade and such sure yes down the line
It's just it's gonna come at a time right where I
Mean maybe he is buying this one first because he feels like he does have to do something active and at least
He's giving him some sort of way to set up on you know going on someone chasing them down
It's just it's dangerous for him to do these type of plays when he's playing at the fiends gate
Because if you just get out of position and you like to run in and use it the fuselor, I don't know it
Just the usual build is the one that we've like the dragon lance shadow blade right you're able to make these plays all around
You're gonna have a mobility. Yeah, perhaps just thinking about the late game already thinking about getting to these later stages
Now what's it?
Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of things to dispel eventually once he gets that.
That's gonna be a long ways away, of course.
Mikoto, level eight.
He's doing pretty decent.
Honestly, he's only dying the once.
He's got earned.
Got the chip vest to build the jungle faster as well.
Not too shabby.
Yeah, we got it.
It's probably the fastest defusal blade you've seen on Sniper in quite a while, right?
11 minutes.
I mean, no one else's spying.
I don't think I've seen a defusal Sniper in some time at least.
Not as a first.
Well, they get Disperser.
Not the first time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh no.
Okay, he's using it immediately so looking to get aggressive, looking to shut down the
Underlord rather than him getting gone on by the Underlord perhaps is going to be the
play with him with this.
Yeah, I was thinking, the thing that always kind of feels awkward when you rush, right,
it's just the cost range is...
It's abysmal.
You have to kind of walk in pretty close and you know, you're a snypey, you're not shotgun.
So if you can feel kind of awkward trying to get in there and using the defuser.
Perhaps just expecting them to close the gap on him, right?
That's true, I guess if someone's...
Yeah.
to sort of slide them when they're trying to get close to you.
Fira!
Hiya, Mera!
Quick easy kill.
Take away the rune as well.
It's a nice move.
Nicoto looking to invade.
I'm trying to find Whisper a bit long here, but he is not.
Whisper is farming very effectively here, as these timbers tend to do if they're given
the space.
Level 6 is ready for Kaori.
Egg is up.
In that top tower, it is going down.
So, I mean Nightfall is having complete freedom.
Because this is the thing, right?
I feel like yesterday we did see a couple of games where teams would get in this first
pick loan drew it and it's completely dominating with it yeah when I have to
sort of start how good are the measures for LGD to deal with an out of control
loan drew it I don't know if anything to do with it
yeah cuz it is a ridiculous hero once it gets to the point in the timings are
gonna be very fast having this corrosion versus these tankier heroes
They're tiptoeing and they're trying to fight here aren't they?
Level 600 feet, they can get the fear!
Ah, see if they can burst him!
They can't! He's gonna be able to get the egg off!
Sniper!
Tylon gets caught.
Yeah, they can't kill this egg. They've got to run away from it.
They've got to run away from Atox, catching on to...
The hoodwing whispers, looking pretty dead as well.
They're trying to interchange away, but they've got him!
Concerns for the sniper there we had.
Reminds me of what?
Stuns up from Mera, catches both of them.
As Aurora chasing him down, they catch the both with the pit, here's the bear ready to clean up!
It's a team wipe!
Killed for nightfall!
Yuma, the last one left alive for 13 minutes,
but he died under the tier 2 triple kill for nightfall on the lone druid!
That- that's an uh-oh!
That could not have gone worse!
No!
So, the snap, they caught him, caught the star!
They just paid on him, they literally just jumped right- they saw him and that's-
was the concern from the fiends, you know, Kezu was saying,
what happens if you just get fiends getting on?
I mean, did he diffuser blade them?
He doesn't do anything to get on you. I guess he doesn't he got yeah
He got fingered. Nicola close the gap on him too
This is a good way to vessel because we are watching this here trying to go for great fear
But even if that land
How did that bush work not hit the penis is it because he's like up in the air being tossed
Does that stop bush work if you're being tossed it just didn't catch him
It was it because it's up now can you get bush wax wash your mid tops? Yes, you can as I must have just missed
We'll cut the tree on the way down.
No, because the bush, I think, either way put it out.
I don't think it would have mattered so much anyway.
No, it's a good reason to fight anyway.
Then I've been able to get a Phoenix kill.
Obviously, as it is, it does hurt because they didn't get anything.
They got nothing.
And they lost everything.
And this is pre-Ember Spirit Vessel, and now Ember is only about 1k behind.
Very quick out this Exciter, and we were just talking about how Nightfall was free farming.
He's just got accelerated massively.
It is, yeah.
Pre-kills.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, the defuse-
A lot of druid is, uh, that's a problem, right?
Yeah. This is a problem here.
And overall, like, this defuse, it makes you very vulnerable.
Like, the dragon lance makes you a bit tankier,
lets you play from distance, and then the shadow blade
lets you play for me, like, sneaky maneuvers.
We'll see if this pays off in the next few moments,
but seeing a lot of easy ways for Aurora to just close that gap,
and this is before Makoto has Vessel.
I mean, it's gonna be this naked disperser rush.
Is that-
That sounds- that does not sound good, though.
I'm this is my kind of build. That's why I'm good. I
Don't know this. Okay, so right off it removing chains fast. There's just too much to remove though
Okay, we'll see
He's getting going on
First aggressive move from one of the people gonna get the bad very painful. We'll get the bear a little bit of money that going the way
Oh, you know
The vessel's done.
On Mikoto, it doesn't even look like he had a bad lane now.
It looks like it's a fine lane.
Absolutely not, right?
He did absolutely deal with that sort of starting situation.
Very nicely.
Sure, he did not get easy farming the lane, but he didn't feed.
Nope.
At the moment, he's 2-1-5, and as you say, his farm is in perfectly fine position.
And you've got to be honest, you look at the Ember Spirit, he's kind of scary.
You look at the Sniper.
Not so scary.
I don't think they're scared of him at all.
Not so scary whatsoever.
Just dive on him, spirits.
They can just kill him with the Phoenix if they do it with a plus one at the fiends gate
That's looking like a difficult game for LGD
I mean that the next sort of big timing that might allow them to build together and move is probably gonna be this blink on
You know, right? He's a few and you go off it. Yeah when that's online
They got to go and do something they cannot sit back and let nightfall just continue to take over the game as he is
Because it's just gonna be one of the quicker
Me only a drag star we've seen this is gonna be incredibly fast for nightfall
He got enabled massively literally got handed three kills and so much more at that top and a tower
I'm not mistaken to and overall looking at the the three heroes
Which we usually look at which makes the aggressive moves
It's the midlaner plus the two supports a sniper with a techies and hoodwink
That threat is not really there in comparison to an ember lion Phoenix. These three are gonna find kills way easier
The concerns of this game goes forward
Well, let's see if this high-lung and discursor
I don't think I've ever seen a full Disperser run. I don't think I've seen a first time Disperser ever
Well, let's say I long
Now I mean what would you make the first after you make that aggressive move on LGD you're probably like huh
How do we look for a fight at this point? It's very complicated
Look at the mirror, we'll kill off the lion.
Feedsgate, he's coming in.
Mikoto's trying to close onto Ty Lung.
WS will get his hands straight away onto the tech.
He's dealing the core out of the fight.
I'll dive on forward, see if they can get more out of this.
Kaori wanted him.
Oh, they got the assassin.
Ty Lung's going to be fine.
Stands his ground, turns around with the help.
Mikoto did not want to use a remnant into the base.
It looked like Kaori wanted to dive an egg on top of him,
but Mikoto was not feeling confident enough to do so.
A good couple of kills and some good moves as we need to see right as soon as Yuma has this blink.
Yep.
He's not afraid of getting involved and if I especially when it's brought that close to the area of the map that he was in.
He's got to be the protection and he's got to just make a lot of moves to protect the sniper.
Sniper?
Okay, disperser's done, let's see what he can do with it.
All right.
That's if him dispelling and protecting people from all these different things is going to be effective or not.
I'm very curious about it if it is going to end up working out for him.
And he is so fragile with this build. 1100 HP.
I'm just gonna force you to see what he gets next.
It's probably going to be back for the...
Dragon Lance Shadowblade.
You wouldn't imagine that.
I would think so, but maybe he does change things.
Dragon Lance 100%, but then the next item, we'll see what he wants to go for here.
Might have to throw a BKB in the mix, relative and early.
Theo...
He's caught in so many...
Oh my goodness, they got the change, but there's this person!
It's Berserker!
Tongue's up, they got the change off, and get out!
I does save both of them.
I'll sense commands in the code so now jump out with him and has a regen room going as well first usage of disperser pretty effective
They would both that without it
God for it
If the other close mark is coming in from the rest of LGD
Burning it up. Good jump from here. Nice son. Oh
He cut the chain. I cut the tree the timbers
He cut the stun
They would have had him. I think they would have easily had him right a bushwhack into it. Yeah
out. It looked like it, Makoto. He'll be happy about that one.
I'm sitting down here on the replay.
Theo does get to burn him down.
Avalanche, the little tree, and into the chakram, unfortunately coming in from Whisper, and cutting
that tree.
And he's forced though for Aurora, and for Makoto.
It's alright, disperser number one, deep payoff.
Yep, the first usage of it. Aghanim's soon to be coming out for Whisper. He is very high
level on the stimpersaw level 15 but it's soon time for nightfall the agonims
it is coming out in about 200 gold so we'll see how they do deal with that
bear they're just smoking absolutely just fight every every time they can
they didn't wait to get cool down still get the combo straight on a mirror in
the mid good catch yeah fight as much as you can before this ag's laundry it
because he is about to have it and he's about to start running at you still
smoke on the two supports.
There we go.
So yeah, 20 minutes.
Me on it.
Ags on nightfall.
Level 15 on top of that here as the loan drew it.
That's an early pickup.
Okay.
A BKB on WS as a second item.
That is interesting.
He is playing versus Timbersaw.
So I can see the reasoning why he wants to do this.
If you fiends get inverse Timbersaw at times, you can just die instantly on the
underlord.
You know, can't kill you super fast.
So I can see the reasoning why he wants this over going for the Ags early.
They get the successful scan here.
So the WS can get the grab. It's tricky if the humus quit with the blink.
They see Mira as well walking through the lane with the ward.
So I think Hume should be pretty careful here.
Yeah, he's ready to go for that steal.
Oh, he's got the vision down.
Are they going to check?
No, they're not checking.
Oh my god. Is he going to get this?
He's a good timing.
He might even be able to get a kill.
I mean, Korra's going to fall pretty low.
Oh
They're being careful, I mean they ready off
They're gonna die I mean that's true King jungles is also being kind of annoying
We'll get dealt with double kill for WS. He's a bit low now WS
Uh, can they even do this now?
We don't have the mission code on us!
How's the Ramdom? He's fine.
Can they finish?
The bear is here. The bear is coming, but...
I mean, WS is like nearly dead.
He... he... he... four.
Okay.
Uh, K'Hor is gonna die.
He's got a medallion.
Merus, well, careful!
Okay.
Oh, goodness. The fact that they did it is pretty remarkable how low they're all falling,
but they get it!
Thank goodness for the bear, and thank goodness that he did get a medallion there too,
so we did see that coming into play.
Nice try there from the two supports,
at least disrupting and making them take a lot more time for it,
a lot more time for it, so during that whole time,
let's forget some good farm, same thing for Whisper.
So, LGD, getting things out of the map.
Now, I mean, Tylen is getting built online?
Yes, he's getting online.
Off the Smurfs rush here and getting
to finish the Special 3.
Oh, he's going, oh, he went full Creedy.
Oh, wow, he went Array as well instead of the Dragon Lance.
Ah, he's got the, he's, he's having a run on the Smurfs
along, and obviously next time is the BKB for him.
So once he gets that, he's, he's gonna be pretty hard
to kill and chase down.
He is a- but right now he's a true glass cannon.
This is cool.
See if it does pay off.
So far, 4K lead, it's still at the moment for Aurora.
LGD looking to set up for the Roche.
Egg is on cooldown, so perhaps that's one of the indicators of why they do want to go for this.
Alright.
But the bear is coming and Aurora is gonna have something to say about this, surely.
Aurora's not gonna sit back and let this Roche go down for free.
There are mines in the area.
Here comes the bear.
I think the only stun, quick blast onto the other core, take the techies out, whispers, turns with the chakram, use the toss combo on the mirror, they take the support and turn, theo, they're on top of thailung, WS and Makoda, they're surrounded, the sniper, thailung, you cannot escape them, the sniper's gone!
Here is a glass cannon.
The LGD will be pushed away out of the row, Shampit.
Not even buying shard.
We saw the disperser work at least once but I'm not even buying the cost of grenade to get it disengaged or anything.
That is ballsy.
The Spirit?
That's difficult to get into the pit now.
He's not agonizing.
Well he was going to go in there with the Colt bow!
He's going to jump over! Roaches are going down! McConaughey's still up there finishing, pick up the A to shoot him!
He's got to be KB and get out of the pit now!
KB disengaged?
Should be.
Should be alright. Mine's starting to get laid down as well. Aurora they went for for the bait and chased up to the high ground.
But what they wanted, they forced LGD away from the Roshan, they took the Roshan, and they get the Aegis on Makoto.
A nice try there though from Yuma, the BKB reveal, right? Just jumping in, knows you can't get locked down.
If he gets lucky, he could get some type of either last hit or the Aegis potentially there.
Okay, or he didn't get the Yank back up though, so.
And I like it. Tiling said, I need a BKB! I'm gonna buy an Aghanim's.
This, I think I literally did this build, this is...
Okay, what?
Alright.
This sounds great and fun!
Interesting, rules.
KJ.
I don't know.
Makoto, he's having quite a time now.
He is.
He's having quite a time.
Kinda chilling.
He is gonna buy a BKB.
He's not as cool as Tyler.
Nope, he's doing standard.
No, he's not.
No, he did just jump.
He did just tumble their toy into a tree.
Okay, he got himself out.
Yeah.
Not too sure.
Does look...
Very risky, I will say.
It's the best word I think I can use for that there.
Eul is now picked up.
Kaori playing versus the Tempersaw.
Now he has a way to dispel this Reactive Armor as well and get extra setup.
Oh, I'm lucky to help, sir.
He's gonna need a bit of time to get his axe online.
He is.
Makoto.
Can they go for this?
He's having a lot of damage.
That's why very quickly taking the Aegis out of the hands of Makoto.
You can go for round two plus if you get him.
Yeah, he's able to get the Slider Fist of the Ring and off.
He's away, he's ready to get back in.
The other kill is taken out, WS.
He escapes over.
They just know the reactive.
There, and on top of the Neuma comes the VK in the topside.
He's able to take WS down.
So if they turn towards the Bears,
Shana played with the Rarity Knuckles having to get the Bear out.
They'll have to use the Super Novel to survive the assassinane coming in from Tai Lung.
Really nice toss there from Neuma.
Stopped the push for now and able to get a kill on top of it, taking WSL.
Solid stuff, great tossback, he catches WS completely off guard before he gets the BKB.
Yeah, you must earn a lot.
Yeah, he has a lot.
You know, Whisper, he is pretty insanely farmed on this Timbersaw.
You know, one of these Timber players that can absolutely make the comeback after a bit of a slow landing stage,
just to assume from a few of them, I think WSF, the other one that kind of really comes to mind as well,
that also does this on the Timbers.
They do feel like the two best at least right now, and they've got the catch up.
He jumped into the fight. He was ready to charge him with a tumbler's toy. He jumped forward trying to fight and just died and killed him.
Three deaths now for the sniper. Time and time again getting picked off in nightfall. He has just continued to scale.
So even though the whisper Timbersaw is scaling quite heavily, Nightclick is not really scaling too much.
The Lone Druid is still unanswered. There's zero deaths here on Nightfall and a lot of us have seen how this Lone Druid story goes.
Especially when you have the backup of the Phoenix too, right? The Sunray potential is pretty ridiculous to see it in terms of the aggressive head potential.
Yeah, let me tell you. And a good jump from here. We've seen a fair few times in these fights now. You're on the tiny. You've been doing a lot.
Constantly finding the tosses and the avalanches here with the blink.
He kind of had to do this build right and sacrifice himself a little bit to be able to re-establish the game
But you can see the pressure right now in the sniper
Mr. Tai Lung
Smoking up looking for another play
Nicoto is pretty tanky at this point and now he does have the BKB
So that'll be much easier for him to stick on targets doesn't have to worry about his flameguard getting dispelled. There's a detaser
Or can I jump him under the tower?
He will die so fast, he's 1300 HP, but he will die so fast.
Miro is definitely a little tempted by that.
How much damage does Fingert do right now?
He has 5 stacks.
Oh that is decent amount of stacks actually.
How much HP does this actually?
That's more than half of the sniper's HP.
Smoked on from LGD.
Yumap, can you get Aurora?
I shouldn't mind that, Smoked just 4 off.
Yeah, they have the remnants of this, but he's my top Aurora.
He's melting.
We'll try that by saving!
He does! He gets him out of there with a disperser!
Tiling up a bit of bail, the hood went out.
There you go.
Saving his buddies, that's the second time he's been able to save his support.
The only core?
Um...
That's pretty aggressive.
That blast is insanely aggressive.
Ah, yes, he wanted the crate wave!
Uh, cost him his life!
Yeah.
Well, I guess I'll take that, some bonus damage for him.
Well, they've got eyes on Yuma here in the mid.
He is pretty tanky, but the bear does do a lot of damage and saves what he said for the summary!
And they're gone!
They'll take him down!
That looks pretty easy for them to kill the Tiny.
Mera will get smoked here by Tylong, by Ty and that's the- that's the carry dead!
That's the 3600 HP carry dead.
And things are gonna get tough as well, the Axe is now in line for WS.
The Kodo?
So he's ready to come over.
They're right on Tylong.
They're found Tylong.
No disperser.
It's on cooldown.
No grenade.
Cannot save himself dead for 50 seconds.
King Jungles.
Gonna get burned down as well by the Sunray.
This build is leaving a lot to be desired Owen it did save his buddies once or twice, but now you're seeing he's kind of just a big liability it feels
whisper
Yeah, I whisper super far, but now he is very farmed on the stem, but the two big scalars that they need to get farmed
Oh really falling behind Kari starting to catch up to their net worth even on this phoenix
They're just running at them at this point to with the bear with the silver edge. Oh, they can't there's not really a hole up there Frado
He's very tanky.
But you were by his side.
You were looking at my code side, but you must be in trouble.
You must.
They're gonna get clipped by the stun and into the silence.
He's gonna get the jumps, get the BKB, he pops it out, but he falls real late.
He's dead.
He's low.
Again, and pretty much the same spot.
Exact same spot.
He had a couple of good jumps this game, but he is sacrificing himself way too much now at this point.
The bear.
Probably not gonna get to see that point in a game.
No, it's right.
It's definitely, it's one of those heroes, right?
And the best of three, I get it, right?
Some of the teams like,
well, we'll see what we can do against it in one game.
They had an idea, right?
And the idea clearly not working so far here, the techies.
You know, the O'Core, honestly,
he did a pretty good work in this early game.
Now he's zero and nine, right?
He was making all these moves around
to try to fix hands.
Yeah, that's really what it was.
Just trying to fix the problems that there were.
Yeah, 13K lead here, right now.
And the items just continue to flurry in WS after the agonims, very close to having the
sheevahs.
I feel the damage now at this point for the side of LGD, it's just gone.
It's still into full off here.
So we'll see how they do try to set up and get some extra kills here, especially for
Tylong so we can get to these next items.
He does have the agonims, but it does not really feel that threatening by any means
at this point.
10 minutes ago, maybe, has been the latest significant amount.
Yo.
What, I will get him.
There it is.
Not easy to survive as the techies right now.
No, and Makoto, this is a Ember who was versus a Sniper
and he's 8-1 and 3.
I mean, he's crushing it.
Yeah, Makoto, as we have in KP,
had confidence coming into this one
and we were seeing that confidence in play.
Again, like the net worth, he's got exactly the same amount of farm pretty much as Tylong, but he's just able to do so much more.
Hey, this is just a dead Cybertron.
Yep, jump some drops of him.
Can they get him out?
Oh, they'll be able to get away with the force.
Kona's going to try and dive.
He'll do this.
Oh, the bear's coming for him! Run away from the bear!
Here it comes, he's going to die.
Tylong, yeah!
Tylong's in trouble, the bear is going to have to be killed.
From Mirage kills him off.
As the bear turns over towards another, it will deal with the bear, but damage was done.
Have we killed off Thailand plus King Jungle's that?
I do kind of like that bare play though.
He literally just ran into it relentlessly.
Sent it in.
Get it to the sniper.
That did not look like a play that Nightfall usually would do, right?
Just going that aggressive forward there, but he missed the bar again.
Another one for Nightfall.
He has to switch up, but the KB...
It tangled.
It's going to get him, for some reason, goes through the KB of course.
pretty crazy. Got a lot of this here. Another one. He's just watching them down. Four heroes
down. This is looking like a bit of a definition of an easy game for Nightfall. Yep. He was
alone through it. I love how aggressive Nightfall has been playing the last four games that
I've watched from him. We had one game where he kind of played a bit more passive and he
saw the effect of it. Since then, I think he's just playing completely different in
terms of how aggressive he's playing. Showing up to all the fights, I mean this one. Showing
Going up in quotes of course as Mira steals the kill.
How many stacks has he got now?
I don't know.
6?
7?
7 stacks.
6?
7.
Nice thing.
Almost level 18.
That finger is going to take more than half of the HP
of the sniper.
Yeah.
He's going to do the BKB next so he can actually
get in and get some punches in off
with how high the stacks are on his finger.
I'm pretty ready to hear what Quinn's going to have to say
about this sniper build too.
I heard that Quinn said that if he saw anything other than this exact build, he'd be very upset.
This is a Quinn-approved build.
I'm just shocked that the grenade is coming.
Like, now he's queuing it up.
But I'm, yeah, I'm pretty confident it came to this late.
Yeah, the Underlord overall, WS has had his number.
Just points right on top of him every time.
Chivas is about to come out, so even more armor.
Roche on time.
Can look to set up for that pretty soon.
And it's almost a butterfly too for Nightfall.
18,000 gold, leading one.
Where'd you go next on the Sniper Girls?
There's a shot there.
I think you might go Etherlens, so then you can be the truest.
Have that extra range on Assassin's Day.
What the hell?
I actually think this is almost...
They have good high-ground defense, right?
They're tying in to Sniper and Techies, so they do have great high-ground defense, but
this game does feel like it's falling to the territory, depending on getting a big damage
over it.
He needs to go either...
I don't know, maybe just hit a list.
I mean, Hydra-Break probably because he has the Specialist to rate anyway.
Just get that upgraded.
I don't know. It just feels very complicated at this point.
I'm going to find Damage Rune in the river ready for Aurora.
And Yuma's game, you know, after he was having some pretty good jump, he just fallen off a cliff completely.
And he is playing into some hard counters. The Underlord, the Phoenix in particular, and the Vessel.
Theo.
There comes the bear!
They want the bigger one though.
one though.
That's why my own indeed Nightful is going to look elsewhere, they did see the bear under
the sentry.
They want Timber.
Some whispers.
It's going to know that they're hunting for him.
Talking about the bear, he's going to have a butterfly.
Yep, he hasn't finished.
Mira another finger stack.
And in the mid lane, Tylong.
They got him.
He's the second.
Godlike him.
I don't know.
Godlike.
Definitely off of him.
Too many gap closers.
Niddler pick does seem absolutely perfect versus both the tiny
Even though it's before the sniper, it does have the merit versus that sniper as well
Just closing that gap, always reducing the damage, catch, etc
Full map is just open now for the side of Aurora
Oh yeah
They just are really having difficulties getting outside, even hitting any extra creeps here
They're trying to sneak along the sides
King Jungle's probably not gonna wanna show himself down there
How do you kill?
If they see you, he's just dead.
How do you kill any of the three cores now at this point on the side of Aurora?
They are so tanky.
You don't have damage.
Close to Daedalus for you, Laura.
So it's a good damage increase.
He's playing it to Atrofeor.
Atrofeor is just really...
I don't know.
He owns Tiny in the mid-game in particular.
It's Roche for Aurora.
Easy.
Can't be any sort of steal coming in.
in a full hacks very super peyori on top of things as well as we said he is
catching up to those cores as he tends to do on this phoenix yeah I mean that
they're all just having pretty great games on this game yeah even like even
mirror we have to sell it sometimes he does have these games on the lines where
he has a lot of deaths he's not having the best kind of contribution this one
he's having the best but he's getting the contribution whisper you can get away
from the bear. Should be fine, it has to blink to get a far enough distance away to TP out.
They were looking for him though with a fiend's gate.
They're up. He's going to get his hands on King Jungles and it's still speedy but the
There's common
It's ridiculous he's can't get away from it
There a verse squirrel it's not a fair fight. Wait, Mike
What pushed the bear?
Headband. Oh, yeah, thank you
Sorry I got you
there might be a comeback it's got to be around high ground and it's got to be
with toss backs into mines and with the sniper just being able to fly. They have got high ground.
He did take the, I mean the talent you're supposed to take on the tiny right he did take the
damaged one but in this game I could have seen a perhaps an argument for the toss
requires no target even after the core. Yeah tosses into mines yeah. Sounds pretty grim to say.
We'll see. We shall see. Start setting him up though. I want to see if he'll of course start putting the bombs in the
He does have a couple outside, but it does feel like the defense has to be on the high ground for them
I think you got it just all in on the assassinate now
It's like show the option the problem with techies to versus laundered
I could see the like perhaps what they were thinking about in the lane with the tech with the disarmament all that right
But in the mid game and in the later stages the bear just can run through and clear your entire minefield as well
To and have just just that's it right so it is a big problem to deal with this bear as well
Who just heals? It sustains? Well the bear is farming on the other side and he just continues to run it through all the mines.
Now look at these trapped in the base. Time like I can't step outside.
He's just hogging, hogging the eolacore.
He really was.
Like just, yeah, what's up bro?
There's no one on the base.
Bash are coming out.
How's the GPM looking for Mr. Knifle? 836 for this alone droid having a good time.
second highest gpn is actually whisper though that's pretty cool
whisper is like wildly farming up an absolute treat this game
yep now things are very much falling apart around him but whisper he's locked in
if only timber could full carry games you know they should give him some physical
something that they shouldn't pure damage is more than enough that's a lot of
gold lost from deaths but mr. time on that yeah that is that looks that's paint
that's a painful amount of gold yeah could we get on actually could we get
Damage numbers when you get a chance as well too kind of wanted to see how the breakdown does look
So I mean the other cars you said tried to do a lot of work here. The lot. This is just bombs all over the place here, but
Makoto being top damage a lot
On the ember yeah, they enabled him right even though it was yep LGD trying to enable the sniper a lot here
Just a couple of these beans gates a couple rotations from the support
It's easier to play around that ember with these supports than it is on the slapper as we've said
And Yuma, he's having to change the build because he is playing versus this butterfly, he's
going to be MKB now, a second Shiva's picked up for the side of Aurora.
It has to kind of get the Skyling right to damage Yuma.
Skyling yet to spend his gold.
I think he's also in a position where he's like, I just don't know what's going to make
a difference here and it could be that rapier that they have to go for.
I mean, rapier just, it's kind of, it's quite an alignment.
It's not like the good old days with the axe and the rapier on the sniper, unfortunately.
I just, I'm not too sure about it.
Maybe just do go to the Hydro Breath and hope that you do 3% damage for spare, but...
Double snipes, they've thrown everything.
They got the back!
I will get it.
Deal.
Seem to cut out. He's ready to go super aggressive there.
Jumping in with the Ramblers, they've got the Fizz Gate coming in, so they'll take out the other core.
Get King Jungles.
Tell him I'm trying to turn.
Got the stun.
Well, kill off WS with this, son.
Not about BKB.
I don't think that's not a trait.
Sure, they lost the two supports, but they killed WS.
He got very greedy.
Could just BKB and then go through back through the portal
and he's probably just, probably just safe there,
but maybe he was concerned about the axe.
Anyway, we're talking about safe.
Thailand does just fight himself for BKB.
Well, okay.
Alright.
Looking to stand his ground in the base.
Yep, just keep setting up the mines.
defense. That's what it's got to be for LGD. You're gonna give up a lot of objectives here, but still, of course,
about three minutes on this Aegis. I mean, is it? They can't hold! They can't! They can't hold! This could continue for a while.
Quite a long time here. LGD. We'll just see if they can deal with it. What could potentially get to
that one, you know, one k per minute that we do see sometimes when you are contained inside the base like this.
And this bear is always hunting too, so it's very dangerous for them to step outside at times.
Even for Whisper, you know he's very tanky and very far, and the chainstile will kill him.
Oh, Mira's queuing up a BKB of his own. They are looking for him. They're gonna all jump in.
Yeah, they're all gonna be fine. Just jump past the tanky front line, go for the squishy sniper.
Talon Q'ing up the MKB next.
He's got the right Talon as well, the Lion, the damage.
Playing versus a Sniper, I don't blame him.
Because the hero can't just be very fragile.
It's good damage. I wonder if he's a little bit too particular.
Okay, he's not. He's gonna buy the BKB.
Playing, maybe, if you take it, the Talon rise.
I won't maybe just get the Iconyms instead.
The BKB's coming out from there.
He's playing his play.
whisper trees here does get pulled
going in on the code oh
force a reaction the bear flanking
come in with the fiends gang
they're gonna put a lot of trying to take up WSB
you know he's gonna come out of a
straight instant kill the whisperer
they're gonna come in with the back
you know he's gonna go over the hecks of the stand
and the finger
you know get the bee coming up it's too late
get his dead. Too much damage. Trying to make these plays without sort of using the BKB earlier,
it's costing him. Ty Long. Mera's kind of getting him every single time. And now the pit onto Ty Long
and B.E.L.A. Force. Gonna get forced up to high ground. Takes half his HP though, so fast there.
Fingers gonna be back up in a couple moments too. And Mera's figure, it's even chunking the Tiny as
we're seeing now. I mean, Mera is absolutely getting in the head of Yuma. He's catching in, so he's
He's not getting the chance to get the BKB off in these plays that he was looking for.
Dude, and look, he's gonna farm so fast on this lion too, just when he just, right?
He just finger neutrals, and they just run around and farm as well too.
So the fact that he's gonna have this talent, he's doing 600 damage per hit.
He's gotta get it, Aglums. Come on.
No.
How? How come not?
No.
You're not multi-fingering, anyway.
Killing for the one target.
I mean, I mean, there is a few here, again, caught in the pits.
Oh, you might have the radius to get a couple.
And no need whisper does have the gold for a hex but does have some inventory issues. He is carrying the gem for the moment
29,000 lead a
Few of these games really only where this we just gets to
Pretty incredible proportions, and I I want to say what the ones we've had here at the playoffs, right?
We've not had any of these big leads get turned around right not be not this not here at this one in these playoffs
No
These leads have been pretty impossible to turn around but this is a good
I feel like of all the leads where this has sort of been built up against the lineup
This I feel is one of the lineups that might be able to turn it around
You know a lot of the other lineups are like okay
These guys aren't gonna be able to turn around this after all but these guys are another sniper. They've got a techies
There's like there's potential I can see it potential though my issues
They've looked at their team fighters are so lackluster sometimes these comebacks come with because you have team fight around in late game
core like a sniper right this teamfight is just not really there so it's gonna be
straight up out of execution and probably just Aurora having to dive
super hard and die. Love the build from WS he also takes the 25 talent people
just they melt when he's got the conjures with timeless too I'm looking
forward to see how much DPS he's gonna do. Here's one melt the ones without BKB will
They see it!
Be careful, be careful, be careful!
Tyler, Tyler!
He's dead!
Just dead.
Has got the money for buyback though if the push comes in.
I'm sure they're going to be able to push on.
Peek-a-peek.
I'm going to head for Makoto.
Ready to start diving him up to the fountain.
More back-away space there for Nightfall to start.
Bringing down the tier three tower on the top lane.
They got the sniper so they can start the siege without him.
Much easier at least.
and that was not forced to use the BKB though so he does have it ready if he
was to try and make a jump, toss back play. He better be ready for Mira though
because Mira just keeps getting it so that I cannot jump him without popping the BKB.
Every single time this line has had his number it feels refreshing up for K.O.R.
he continues to get this crazy scaling for him too. 47 seconds still remaining
and looking for the bear. Are you there? He gets to stop? Okay, let's see if we'll get the BKB off this time so you must
It's gonna be okay for now, he's having a turn, take the bear out.
Too many times, Mir has been able to get this initial stun though, that's a defensive EKB.
140 damage on WS, fiendscape is back up in a second.
Pressure continuing here from Aurora.
As the fortification, as Tylong is respawning fiendscapes back up.
So he can just put it right on top of them again as soon as they do see him.
He catches them there.
That's great.
Gonna try and get them off the tower.
Supernova coming in on top of him, and he's bouncing in!
Fall to the far that he had, he died so quickly there, the amount of damage they have to just deal with the Timbersaw.
Percent damage.
He just appeared in a couple of seconds.
Look at how much the Underlord did there.
1600 from Firestorm, it was all magical.
It wasn't even the physical that was coming out there, he just melted it.
I think they do have two best percent damage heroes in the game versus these tanky cores with the Underlord and Phoenix.
And that is just megas.
Should be able to kill the Bat.
He has yet he's got a refresher so be able to refresh get an instant resummon of the bear hand knife fall and keep that push going if he wants
check in
Defends it with an enormous pit as well. All right make a creeps up
You said likely to hit the 1k per minute
We have now pretty much hit that point and they can just back up go for the rose should look to close it out like yeah
They can play safe or they can just go cuz whisper doesn't have you know, I don't they know he doesn't have buyback, but yeah, they probably
probably would expect that he does I think.
Yeah, I would assume.
I mean, to be fair, he is very close to having a gold prize.
He's only like 40 gold short, so.
And they don't need to risk at all here.
Mira, this is the most fortunate inventory on a lion.
It's not even Agonyms.
It's a rapier.
It's a nullifier.
It would have been, oh.
Let's go, rapier.
Guys, throws the game, gives it to the sniper.
Ha ha ha ha.
Now, it won't be the case.
They'll just go for the quick easy.
Roche, Blink also on the bear to be able to jump even further,
2 doesn't need the boots anymore
Yeah, we do see those 25s coming out for the bear as well extra root duration and that demolish building damage
Fresh or also the Kodo
I'm gonna spend his money right he's he's got 2700 surplus code so can afford for at least to get the demon edge
Has to get there though career is dead. He did nice get a little bit out in the map then but couldn't quite get over to the shop
I'm saying I hope it's either a crit or a rapier
Yeah, it's just a bunch of new credit and trying to get the day. This one you can't
Gotta spend on something here. You're not
Hasn't gotten too much more progression here
No
Has the MQ be the credit again if they kind drop everything
They could drop everything on a wire
They could kill the bear and then he's gonna get the summon and then he's got another one
So the refresh on is killing the underlaws gonna be really hard
WS is like super tanky super hard to bring down 4700 HP. They just have so much control and they have so much and they have healing too
That's the thing about the Phoenix and not just damage it for something
Catch you do the course body doesn't buy by using it immediately
Prepare the code is just down around the time of the pack
We're gonna drop the stripper over here straight on top of the timber Westville be able to tip the chair away
And you must get him under there, so a lot of damage coming out from the fountain, but WS heals up, walk it away.
Oh, they gotta get this kill, I mean he's getting out of this, they're gonna pull him out of the harpoon, they will kill him,
but Yumi's taking a lot of damage from him, he's having the toss, Yumi's gonna be dead, the second Sippin' Up are ready to come into play.
The buyback's here for Yumi, they'll kill the Sippin' Up, the eggs taken out.
Fair, looking to turn for it, can't be buybacked, there's a TP out to refuel, but we gotta swap that TP,
And that's gonna make it hard for him to reset, of course, just to let the Aegis, but without being able to reset and get his mana instantly back,
will make it a little harder for them to jump straight back into the fight.
But give the M going, they had used three buybacks for it.
And they're probably gonna look to go again here, he's restoring Mikoto.
Bear coming in, he still has two more bears as well, two after this one.
Mikoto's in.
That's a good fear as well, he's called the two of them humans in trouble, if it's played down to...
What's the push for?
They're both recalled.
They take the edges out of their hands.
Avima, Makoto.
Round two, they got any instant catch.
Peek of the avalanche, but not much more.
He's jumping back and forth here for the remnants.
Sasane, it's going to hit, but no follow-up stumps.
Oh, actually, there is.
They get the jump.
They're over the close.
They're all human.
Trying to come over the wrap round.
They're catching up with the Hicks, Makoto.
He'll jump away.
Mira comes in with the punches.
Punches down.
Nuva.
They're looking at the bear.
The bear slowly approaching.
Here's the feed skate, we'll catch the two of them, the bashers come in, Tylon taken out.
As they're running out of buybacks, Aurora, they'll be able to get the win.
Gigi is finally caught in, this game won by LGT.
As Aurora did take the 15 minutes, but there wasn't a lot of questions really after quite an early point
whether or not they were going to get the win here. It looked pretty inevitable.
Yeah, the writing was absolutely on the wall pretty soon after landing phase
The sniper built definitely for me felt like it left quite a bit to be desired
They did get on top of him so much like this draft does just get on top
So I don't know if there is even something that you can't purchase to be over
I appreciate so like what the Quinn's infusion when it came to the matchup
But I feel like when we saw the sniper so well, he's gonna have a tough game
Yeah, he's gonna get on top of it
Yeah, he's squishy, Lyon can burst you, three different heroes that can close the gap on you, and overall, right, Nightfall.
On touch again, continue with that KDA.
Another one of these first few lunderers, and Nightfall showing us indeed how incredibly powerful it can be.
14-0-13, we're probably not going to get to see that one coming in game two.
That's what we keep thinking every time the lunderers surely won't get let through.
Surely Aurora won't be able to pick it up and pop off with it again.
surely but I feel like they keep thinking they have answers for it.
Yeah and I think so there's one like it's one thing to let a hero go through
and then it's a second like it's so different when you let it go through
and your answers seem so random. I'm just gonna go.
It's actually unanswered.
Yeah man, come on like hoodwing techie it's uninspiring to me when you let a
lone go through as first pick. The hero is incredibly contested for a good
reason I look at all of these clips that the bear goes to the wisdom shine you
have to bring like three people and it's just which is obvious by the way needs
and not be able to do that they should remove that by the roar they're leveling
up they're playing well they're playing good daughter that's not much more to
say I mean the thing is like LGD the draft they had in this game it was
influenced against them when against the right like they had the Timbersaw and
said at Linger they spoke about in the interview that they don't mind picking a
matchup that won't threaten the Linger in the lane because in the game they
want the Timbersaw to come online the problem is I didn't see any one on
the game. So it's like the
Timbersaw is conceiving the
farm. Learned it was up there.
Underlord had great network again,
even though the sniper was able to
find some good economy against
the ember thing at some point like
1600 gold and like 10 minutes up on
the ember. It didn't really convert
into anything. So it's like you've got
two side lanes that are going quite
poorly. And your mid sniper isn't
really progressing the game state
you don't want to give this guy a free game. He didn't have a free lane, but he had a completely free game.
I mean, the sort of, you have to add, you know, so much more weight to the fact that the one loan drew with loss that we have had in playoffs was liquid losing with it, right?
The team that ultimately was one of the first to be eliminated, a team that wasn't even really supposed to be here.
So you really have to put a lot more weight in the fact that, yeah, that wasn't answering at work against that team, but Aurora on a different level at the moment.
and that will play very differently when he gets his hands on a lundroid.
Oh, for sure. And also, they had Drow Ranger, I think, in that game against Salome too,
which is another very good matchup outside of the Sniper, which Quinn called.
And I think you could see that Sniper had a lot of...
There was reason for the pick. It did good against the Ember mid,
but also some of his itemization is not good.
I won't speak like I'm the expert, but Quinn said that this is a horrendous item build.
But they don't. He said this was exactly...
There's a lot of errors here and there.
I think also the Agnoms is just a bit sus overall.
They had some cool plays.
when they went to the, it was the Tormentor,
where they did some cool stuff, you know,
where like delaying the game,
making space for someone else.
But when the draft like doesn't mesh up,
at least the gameplay needs to follow.
But I think both is like a bit disconnected.
And in the meantime, Aurora,
he's on like not even killed the single time on laundry.
If I look at their heroes, I'm like,
this is an Aurora draft.
If you don't even show me the team logo.
These are five heroes that they love to play.
Oh, so I didn't realize the photo was edited
to have Naples face up on a drone.
I mean, he kind of looks good with the beard.
I mean, no.
It looks better than yesterday. I got like a jump scare. Remember when there was like big Chungus nightfall who just showed up at that point?
Oh yeah, that was funny. That was good.
This one's good. This one's good.
You alright? This one better?
I prefer this one. This is a solid like 9 out of 10.
Fine. I think it's good.
We can talk about the sniper a little bit more. Yeah, you already said you're not going to talk about it like you're the expert by any means.
But there will always those caveats that it's a back and forth when it comes to a sniper in the later portions of the game.
the game. I mean, we can't
talk about this position, right?
In the fact that he did rush the
disperser is the first time at
7.41 that we have seen a sniper
rush the item there at least
has only been one instance of
sniper buying this item, and it
was XM like he bought Silver
Edge and BKB and pike. I bought
all these items before that kind
of then warranted the disperser,
but to go for a rush on the item
there. Sure. There's a couple
you can see here to disengage like it can make sense in a winning game like when you're kind of pushing your team forward utilizing the kind of defensive capabilities to get away from underlaw number. It can make sense. The problem is there was no team to play around. You were just kind of getting run out the entire time and the items after never really followed up to enable the concept.
Like buying Ags, buying specials for it, it's kind of whatever.
And you get like the most broken hero in the game, Lone Druid.
Like, I don't know, I'm not a... I mean, I just buy Agnems on Sniper.
I think only Topson can ever make it work.
Everyone else just looks like a, you know, a schmuck, a fool.
A fool, because you know, you're not optioned.
Yeah, I mean...
Do you want me to keep throwing most Agnems?
I think we get it.
I get it at least.
Do you want to throw in one more?
No, no, no, no, you tell me no.
And then like the other thing too, Hero needs Granada.
If Sniper doesn't have Shard, like how are you running around?
Because even with the disperser, you're delaying.
At the start, you get out.
You show the good clip where he gets to disengage.
But later, Amber gets axed.
Disperser is not enough.
You need more layers.
And then the other thing is too.
I will say it again.
It's difficult for LGD because they
have games where their draft does not hit.
But then at least the gameplay has to.
And there is this play at the top tier 1 tower
that they go for, which I actually
like that the play that they're setting up.
But the way they execute it is just not clean.
Because then at least, if the draft isn't perfect,
you need to make up for it with the gameplay.
So like they go to this tier one top tower and it's just really disconnected and disjointed with like how they overall make it happen
And if you don't hit those moves when other things are also not easy then how are you gonna make it work?
It's too difficult like here if you they have the invas techies coming from behind you have Aurora
They're pushing the tier one tower now pay attention to this so human TPs in and it's actually really nice
You even have king jungles here most of the people are here if you combine your spells on one guy and techies is coming from behind
You can actually get a good kill here and maybe win this fight when the game is still in an okay spot
But now if we look at what actually happens, they throw an Avalanche here
They missed their bush back on the Phoenix they suicide it on the left in vision so that the laundry could actually
Savage brought him away and Phoenix like they already barely gets the egg off like he could have been insta-killed out of this situation
So it's like obviously yeah draft is important your heroes are important
But if these are the moves which this is a good call overall from LGD
This is about their button testing not like an idea of oh, we should not have taken this fight
This was good, but the execution is not on par obviously Aurora. They're gonna make use of that
I mean, it's the same argument as well towards like
Defending a mid tower right like there's the moment when like Tylong
He's like trying to kill the bear bottom right there, you know techies in the mid lane
This is a natural move to make like when your mid leaves the lane your mid
Well, your position for support was to take the XP but like Tylong he goes to kill the bear
Whilst they're doing that then you lose the mid tower to the pressure and as soon as you lose the mid tower
It's kind of quite early for a sniper
It opens up the ember map play the lion map play the Phoenix map play
So I feel like this also is maybe a little bit of a tactical blunder from Thailand leaving this mid-area
I'm not inviting your team around you because it's like timber and sniper sit mid you keep the tower alive
You get some economy you get your items there's maybe move to make but I think unfortunately
That you know the sniper boo didn't work out the sniper. Everything didn't work out also
Tylong got a little bit bored
I think in this game as well because like at some point he was on the high ground
He was counseling his ultimate a little bit
He's walking around in circles and you don't really want to see this on the player cams from your mid laner when you are trying
an epic comeback because like you know his hands not even on the keyboard he's
like clicking with one hand you know it's like it is just unfortunate to see
that like a player like Tai Long is put in this position based on itemization
play and I think they're going into next game I want to see more fight more
life and I think the creativity from LGD it hurt them again but often they
bounce back from this because the next draft they go we tried it let's rinse
repeat a new draft and then they'll try and break a rule in a different way I do
think this is maybe the most impactful ones because you're talking about that
aspect of Thailand when they're in the game, how he's sort of having that attitude towards
it. But he was also the first one out of the chair when the game got called GG. I mean he
stood up faster than any Aurora player. I actually thought he was an admin, that's how quickly he
stood up after the game got called GG. So I'm like, this man wants to go outside, he wants to have
a conversation. And I'm really wondering, because they're also taking a while to come back in
one by one, that what is LGD's mindset going forward? I mean, it's definitely,
it's going to be always that they're going to go outside and have a talk. I hope that they can also,
So you know do it in a in a nice manner. There's a right place right time
It's also okay to like vent and be like, okay, I don't want to play like this again
You know that I think needs it needs like just like unpack
You know whatever emotions you have let them out don't want to play against longer again
I don't want to play this year again
It's okay like clean slate go into the next game because they can do it
We see that from these players that they're good when things come together
But like help each other let out the emotions, you know, let out the frustration and see what happens
I think the conversation also needs to be had about that bands because when I look back
They were trying to target mid a lot in the earlier bands for them
And then they looked towards taking out a lot of the offlaners too
But for me, I think K.O. is actually standing out in terms of what he's been able to pull when it comes to the heroes
He's been able to play a number of heroes recently
The A was one you mentioned but this time around the Phoenix having a fantastic impact too
You're gonna pick Tiny you should think about banning Phoenix even more so I would look at the start of the draft
There's Axe and Doom where like I will put them so far below in the dumpster
under Lone Druid. Like Axe and Doom, they're good heroes, I get it.
But they're not like ultimate game changers, whereas some of the other heroes,
like, you know, Kaoru Phoenix, if I want Tiny, overall Lone Druid, if I feel like
I don't have a great answer, I will definitely rate them way above.
I think Kaoru is a player, he's scarier than 5 when his hero has a natural way to annoy you,
right? Like, when he's playing his Enches, his Venomances, his Phoenixes, like, they can be
by themselves on the map, just doing random things, even inviting another hero, and it just
It just soaks up so much time and space that like, then you have Nightfall behind.
Like, I think Karory is one of the strongest fighters right now at enabling the carries farm,
but also dictating a lot of the early game by himself.
So that you don't really want him to have these Phoenix tiny matchups, the Phoenix to protect the Lone Druid.
Like, you could pretty much pick any hero and Lone Druid will win the lane, right?
It's like, you cannot allow Karory to be comfortable,
because everything else, just the whole system, just works when he's in this kind of position.
I feel like maybe LGD's learning lessons from the previous matches that Roar have played
and all the teams that they've come up against have been the wrong ones.
They want to try and make WS uncomfortable, but if you go back and look at a lot of the
bands recently against Aurora, Phoenix is almost always making it into that first phase,
and if it somehow is looked through in the first phase, then it is looked at in the second
phase.
So, all the teams are looking at being, that is a big trajectory for Aurora, and so now
I wonder why LGD really did have so much more emphasis on WS rather than a stable hero
like that.
No, I agree.
I think they just had the wrong read, and I fully agree also with what you just said.
Kyori having a free game like Aurora overall are a team that if they have the freedom they really make use of it
They're gonna play aggressive night falls gonna talk about where to go
They also plays really good like aggressive wars, you know
Miro on the post for the guys a killer like if you give them the space you're not gonna have to map
So I just hope that next game they bring us a little bit more just to at first phase techies
But you've not done it once it's lamb even in the quality as simple as that like where did this come from like
This is the normal LGD trajectory though
They have a little bit of a blunder in the drop in game number one, but they can pull it together in a game number two
We'll see exactly if that's how that plate is out off to the sprite
It's just a friendly flick. Let's make some noise.
Enjoy the show. You don't like music?
Crazy, bro.
Anyway, strike out the band. Got just the tune.
Listen to this.
MUSIC
I'll go and I'll go and I'll go and I'll go and I'll go and I'll go and I'll go and I'll go.
That one's off-beat with jamming!
Let's see what kind of tune this place is humming.
How about something like this?
Tell you what, move to the groove, just follow the beat, mate, you coppers!
Come on, get a wriggle on, poogie poogie!
I always knew you had it in you!
Alright, alright, we do this!
La, go and battle, and battle, and battle, and battle
La, go and battle, yeah, same with me friends
You can call me lots of things
I'm a wizard on the strings
The rhythm really swings
One, two, three, bitch chair
I don't know about you guys, but that sounded pretty good.
I might need a round of applause for myself.
I
Thought you think maybe the
Katae hero to you know carry performance or at least don't a placement here at Blastlamp is inverse
So you get better placement the worst you did there and the better you did there the worst placement
You got because Mickey ended up destroying everyone on that leader boss
He was way above everyone else, but he had the moves too, not just the guitar skills.
Do you know why he's so much better than everyone else?
I have no clue.
It's because at the Liquid facility in the Netherlands, they have a full broadband setup.
So they are actually playing guitar hero quite frequently when they're bootcamping.
It kind of checks out.
I mean, you'd think that players that can micro might or should be good at that, right?
Being able to press all the different buttons, like nightfall playing Lone Druid.
Well, would you say his Lone Druid microing was good?
No, I just don't think Lone Druid actually has any micro in the hand anymore.
It's true. Honestly, they dumped the hero down so much, you're just A-clicking your main hero to the attack.
You have to say this every time, it's not like that.
Yeah, it's one hero. Like it used to be like two units, oh, this, this, you need to be in range to attack and you're just buying aggs and chillin'.
Just tap, A-click, tap, A-click, that is the entire game plan.
I mean, that's why you can't let it through the next time, right?
Exactly. It's just that easy. Like if we play in this game, obviously we would also go 15-0.
Oh, you have to do a collective, you're half of the Wii table.
I believe in T.
Yeah, I think, yeah, on the lone druid.
If I take the bear and Khaedra takes the main hero, I think then I can go to the jungle camps
Yeah, I can do it and I can impress me on it and BKB a couple times and if we decide to get up which items to buy
I think we could nail it because at least the one thing you have to do on the hero is their overall like
Itemization and how aggressive you play with the hero is very important and I think nightfall did that incredibly well
He had very nice itemization
You kept seeing him like you know picking people off here picking people off there and overall how they were doing and also
Mirror on the line. It's just it's too easy to play
It's just conceptually like the perfect life for a hero, because for a player who has historically played on like, when he thinks the fight is bad, he gets out.
When you're playing Loan Druid, like, your hero is never in pressure, so he's always going to go for the plays, like, when we're walking here onto the stage, going from the game to end, like, the way that he communicates as well, it's very clear, it's just like, look at me, I found Sniper, I have three beds, I have here, I have everything in front of me, the buildings are going, like, everything's so calm, because like, he has no pressure, because like, his hero is not in play, right, it is just a bear.
It is just stupid. It ban it.
Just straight up ban it. I mean I get it.
It's a good solution.
It's so, it feels so OP. It feels so oppressive at the moment.
I'm hoping that's the lesson LGD takes away from that game number one.
Because they still have a game number two to bring it back here to keep their dreams of staying in Blossom 7 alive.
themselves banning out the laundry they are gonna still stick with them I'm gonna
assume what okay it's okay I literally just had KP and WS one of the two of
them literally said yeah because when you think about it LGD should have let
it through this is this is one of those project things clearly now someone in
LGD does not feel comfortable playing it okay I wasn't gonna say names but yeah
You're MacLillie, doesn't it look? I don't know what I'm saying.
I could have been plus 4 loaned already, you know, like go for the playing with the Shard.
So they don't want to open with it, and then this KPC behind us, happy because now they don't have to waste a ban on it.
It seems like a free ban for us, why not?
At the same time, at least for LGD, so you talked about the hero, and you will have come up with a conclusion of like,
okay, if they're first pick, we're gonna ban it. If we are first pick, maybe you can wait until the end,
but just take it out, play something different. I'm okay with this.
We don't necessarily have to play it like just for the sake of forcing it in.
I mean, I feel like this entire draft right now is a matter of LGD
like really respecting overall in every scope, right?
The idea of like, you're like banning the loan drift to then take the actual self,
like the bans of the previous game were the acts because that's how much you respected it.
Like, this is not LGD drafting for themselves anymore.
It is kind of like, we need to end the series.
We don't have enough tools in the first phase,
so we have to use both bans and picks to deal with it.
and already the tiny pick into the axe again against axe you just want to have
multiple calls that have ways to just survive against the hero I think of
course after the past it's tiny plus timber and all these kind of concepts
just prevent the axe having glass cannon heroes that he can just pick off at a
start of the fight and create numbers advantage now for sure it's nice it's
stable Nightfall also plays it incredibly well there's also other heroes that
Aurora play a lot that are overall very good against axe if I think about
Phoenix, maybe he doesn't pressure you that much in like the lane, but later when you jump people, Max Sunray,
there's an egg behind, maybe you can't really kill him,
he's high HP, he will use his ult, or even you know, Offlane Dawnbreaker, is incredibly annoying for Axe to play into.
Suddenly everyone can go to the safe lane, when you jump people, Dawn ulti comes out, so LGD, they've only got so many
bands, they already put one on the bane, which I'm overall okay with, but Dawn or Phoenix, at least one of them will make it through.
Yeah, I think Phoenix needs to be the band personally.
It's like that is like the the easier hero to play but then there's still the better monster if you want to go for a bit
More fight in the lane and just be potent just put a plague walk down put some poison sting on him
Like there's ways to threaten it and they actually ban out your badden
So they're respecting nightfall maybe going back for the classics
I think the only memory says in both like one game of carry Abba that was Natsumi oji
But yeah, they won the game at least but we just haven't seen the hero at all. I mean it is a classic for nightfall, but
Bros. They have tiny I don't think they're gonna put this here or somewhere else
Do you ever consider that a roar my pick the Phoenix as well like not bad here and they run a tiny Phoenix
So you don't want to reveal the lane you don't like them together. I will I'm happy with saying Phoenix. Yeah, super happy
Yep, super happy. Yeah stamp it
approval
I'm gonna be like, hey, here you come.
Imagine if you did that, that'd be kind of worrying.
No, that would be hot.
Okay, at least if you... because you are giving them the Phoenix again,
most likely at least that's something Aurora should look for.
It's just very good.
Kayori, he's the best Phoenix in Dota 2 right now.
Perhaps then at least for LGD, you can locate heroes like
a Snapfire, plus one, you get a little Shredder,
you get some follow-up damage for the Axe, you know,
so they must have some ideas.
But again, like in this series between the two teams,
like Clockwork, highly contested in the entire tournament,
It's currently goes fully ignored.
Again, both of us wanted to see the Phoenix.
It is on paper the best pick for Kaori in this style.
It gives you the fight into the action, to lane.
Additionally, it's like because you have Fire Spirits,
if you are to get Battle Hungered up,
you can just like Fire Spirit the small camp,
quickly kill one creep from it, go back to lane,
like it's not that much of a problem to take the fight into it.
Okay, so for LGD, most likely you're just going for your double sub here.
I will be okay with the, you know, the snapfire that I talked about,
maybe some hoodwink. Wait, we completely forgot guys. Okay, as soon as the bat animation appeared,
flashbacks to KJ playing the, that was the two hour long game, right? Yeah. Yes. That's the only
reason why I think Axe even was, I'm not gonna say viable, why it felt like he even had an impact
is because he needed the whole two hours to buy items as a position five. To be fair though, I
I have actually played some x5s guys, so I'm weirdly qualified in this position and actually
I've in the right, how many games?
Honestly about 40, 50.
Sorry to stop on my math, yeah sorry, but you're saying that's how it works?
Anyways, so the x5 is like, it can be very tempo based and like battle hungering with
your carry, like fighting through to lane, like you run around the map and you just need
to be like clockwork-esque movement where it's like you run around, you take about 100,
You take one you like to dunking random shit like you need to be like no respect to your own positioning or health just into the game
It can be snowballing, but we've here is like back riding grim. So on paper it can it can work right grim
So ink swells the post five acts he runs in that right. He's got boots of bearing rush
It's just a lot of mass mass skirmish and blob
Of course if you don't get kills and your cause aren't utilizing the potential space you're making you are just gonna grease the game
Yeah, so I like the double pick that LGD went for and it's kind of it's back to their basics
You know, it's some of their best heroes they thrive on the chaos
I want to see how Aurora responded is, you know, not just with the Largo who is an
Insanely good hero post five axe place of a battle hunger. Good luck in that lane to axe
You're just gonna get thank you more HP region for me
Even if he goes somewhere else, there's a bad writer. You can always take off the sticky
You can even dispel the inks well. It is one of the best Largo picks I have seen actually
Yeah, they kind of wish he has like octarene and like a coddle. That's how much lick he wants to be able to throw around this game
I mean, you're still good, right? Pick up that coddle. I mean, I mean
You don't think it's good. I'm just saying it's theoretically
Theoretically it still fits within the draft without forcing someone onto here. That isn't viable. Yeah, that's true
I mean realistically it'll be like a line or some simple stunning boy that can jump in first. Yeah
I don't think they need to complicate it too much, but
But, I'd like you to be a menace.
Mira used to play this hero quite a bit, and it's SD, but it's just not what they really want to.
That's what it's gonna go for.
I like this in a way because we keep talking about Largo needing a croak partner.
And this is just one of them.
And if you don't take your guy here, they're gonna get double banned later.
So, I'm personally very happy for this.
I didn't fully consider it at least here, because it's not very normal when you're a second pick,
to not last pick a core, because most likely it's a sub,
unless Largo can still be the support.
I was talking with that thought, but then, if you're talking about...
I think Offlane Largo, and they'll just...
I mean, technically Largo could be flexed before the Offlane.
I prefer to see it offlane in this scenario,
due to the value of the lick.
I want to have levels in the lick.
I want the tongue to be strong, have good positioning,
get the items in play, even Lotus Orb as well,
so then you have kind of double whammy against LGD.
It's like, the Soulbind on Grimm, I mean, to note that as well,
It's kind of cool conceptually where it's like if storm zips in you so bind in when he disengaged
It's at any point. He voices it. He will get bound up pump move
Yeah, but the problem is good storm players. They just see the soul bind and go guys
I'm just waiting for it to end once it ended then I'll go in
But the storm pick very very strong
I think right now every element of rawers lineup just matches each other really nicely it enables each other to take the fight and
You're gonna go for a vital
I think they really are just picking on the vibes of the kill.
They're going full nuclear in this draft.
Which also to cycle back to the Abaddon band earlier,
that I was very highly questioning or even flaming.
I think after seeing that they're going for the Bad Grim,
it does make a little bit more sense.
I think there is definitely a World War Roar could have considered it.
You're now putting the Viper mid,
which overall your draft is a little strange.
Like Viper mid, you have Axe plus 5,
Bad Rider does make up for it,
but at least right now there's a lot of weight on Whisper to make things work.
because without him having like, blink and lashing people in,
your lineup doesn't play on that many plays.
Like, let's be real, like, ink swelling a Viper is not a thing.
You're not gonna ink swell your POS5 axe that often outside of the first 10-ish minutes, maybe?
I mean, it is weirdly...
I don't even have poetic to the right word, but this...
This Blast slam we've been praising LGD, I tie-long his hero pool,
look where he's been moving, no Viper's at all,
and now it's a game to potential elimination,
and the Viper just comes on back, crawling back into the draft.
Sure, on paper, it makes a lot of sense, right?
So to threaten the Storms, we're in the lane,
the tankiness, the resistance,
but for a hero that has kind of like haunted LGD,
at least in tier one LAN events,
it hasn't really been their kind of,
their go-to winning formula.
You know what they say?
What do they say?
Just get back up on that horse.
Keep trying the Viper, you guys.
Win with it and you're a Vade elimination.
If it's broke, don't fix it.
That's the problem, like the...
It is very good against...
It's like, I mean Viper is like one of the ultimate like FU heroes to like enemy mid-players.
Yeah, yeah.
But, one of the problems is that Largo, like if I'm Largo or Phoenix and Largo and Largo,
I'm very happy to look at the mid lane, maybe TP in, you know, lick the storm, take off the stacks from the Viper, from the poison attack,
and go in just like overplay, because Viper in order to beat your opponent, obviously you need to play quite aggressive,
maybe go on their hill, also aggressive on the runes.
So I need to see later also like LGD supports to go mid and is Axe 5 that good at going to the rune?
Is there ever a world where we get to see like the Axe Viper safely?
Where that Yuma takes it to carry role, it goes for like Manta into the shard,
like you just keep applying poison onto Lager, he can't you know lick off poison attack to that degree right?
Because it is so consistent and then you just kind of play very aggressive in that nature.
I know Aurora is banning out the carries, I'm just trying, is there a way that you can make this draft feel even more explosive?
by putting yourself on this 30 minute timer of we get so many kills, we try to end the game,
otherwise of course it'll be very complicated against Stormsper and Largo Tiny late game, but
when LGD has these heroes, they are subscribing to we must be the dictators of this game.
You aren't just sitting back and hitting creeps and hoping that you get to play out an even mid to late game.
You need to really be proactive.
But then by that logic, shouldn't they then just have picked Ember on 18?
No one would ever ban Viper carry as like it how Shadowfiend was still in the pool, huh?
I'm not bad. I could discover a mind out of that one. I mean again clockwork. Let's not forget
That's here in the moment probably still in still vibing not expecting it. I mean SF was completely untouched last game as well
So yeah, it's just seemingly yeah something that they're not really prioritizing. Mm-hmm
I can I don't think Viper will go to carry but like every time you see LGT pick a hero
You do have to question yourself. I'm getting conditioned to think maybe there's maybe that right
But I mean I really like the shadow demon band coming out from you right at the end because they're all in you initiate
You want to at least pick up one person to give you numbers advantage and that's D has good positioning
It's gonna afford all that with what you want
I mean at this point then you're looking towards like ringmasters and other fours that can maybe even feel the same kind of
Area of counterplay
But, ooh, a Shed. So Vypher is the mid, Shed is the carry.
It's a hero we've not seen for a while. He did get buffed in the ladder patch.
I don't know exactly. I think it may have been like,
Stunnederation and something else between-
He even saw himself get banned yesterday, actually.
Yeah, I think he got banned against Falcons like last phase and then some CK came out.
But I'm overall happy with the pick. Like, when you have Vyper mid,
you need other heroes that make up for it. It's also quite good with Grimstroke overall.
You want more partners, you want more people that go in.
It's not that amazing against Phoenix, but yeah, they did buff his standard and his slow resistance during your ult, which is, you know, no joke.
Last pick Rubik's. Man, this has got to feel good. If you were a POS4 player and you just get 24 pick Rubik in a draft, you are ultimate chilling.
I'm into Viper, into Grimstroke. It isn't going to feel good. You still a Svens down at any point. You are just going to be popping off, but, I mean, for LGD, they have the chaos of fight.
If you're picking these heroes, if you're picking like Axe Support, I need him to be glued to the Grimstroke, and you need to go to the Bat lane, go to the Viper lane,
find these kills pretty much open up the early game so Sven can go fully uncontested because if you're picking Sven
A hero that we don't see often it's because he doesn't want to contribute too much to the game
He doesn't want to rotate around the map. He wants to farm Mask of Madness and AFK in the jungle
So the first four picks they need to do exactly what the heroes are meant to do like they have to find kills and for Aurora
One concern I have for them is
There could be damage problems for Titanium in this game like fighting into the war cry of the Sven
the attack speed slows of the Viper, it could become one of those awkward
leftful games where he can never truly find his entry up until the point where
like Makoto scales and goes you know what I can become the carry with Storm
having like three four items. Yeah I like this infinitely more for LGD than it was
like in game one because here I would still slightly prefer I think to be the
Aurora draft I just like Storm Largo together overall I think it's quite nice
it's also very good Rubik pick like against these heroes he also already
mentioned like the spells that he can steal which it's not that hard to get
good spells from Sven and Viper like in this game overall, but what I like for LGD is that this is
their style. If they bring a lot of fears like your Viper is going to do well mid, like bring
Whisper to the active rooms when it's 6, 8, 10, like swarm lanes together, play off of Inkzwell,
and just give the aggression because in the last game I don't think that's like the LGD people
want to see, I don't even think that's the LGD that they want themselves to be, but in this game
I think they have the tools to show people what they can do and now it's just let the gameplay
I do the talking it was back to more of the LGD style of oh you see enemy here you run at them you kill them
I like that style. That's always gone at LGD at least a lot of leads in the beginning of their games
It's always been that objective taking that has been question marks for us
But overall feels more well-rounded and suited towards LGD. No for sure
I'm just happy seeing the heroes that they have in play like sure
I think people might be looking at the medic going what are they doing picking the axe picking that but like you can see the
Elements I think just seeing whisper have a clear path to enter in the game
He's not on a timbersaw that's gonna be 2,000 network flow than the carry like there is a clear path to him entering and playing through him
So that alone means LGD should be a lot happier compared to game one
But of course Aurora it's tried and tested heroes
It is the reason why they've made multiple grand finals multiple second places of these specific heroes on these specific players
But it is also the reason why we see Aurora in the lower bracket. Sometimes they have become predictable
Sometimes you're able to match the pace of them or even outpace them and with LGD
They are already one game down in this best of three and it is elimination that sits on the other side of game number two
If they were to lose it a lot of comfort and a lot of oomph coming up from the draft
But is it really truly enough in a best of three?
was getting from them. We said, but no one else. I don't some of the higher MMR
pops. Do you see some support acts or not as much? No, it's most. It's not really
a thing. Not. It's just KJ as far as I've seen for them. A lot of other times
just played in court and like weirded positions along the higher pops. So I
have to see what he can do with it because he has made it work before.
And yeah, they've just gone for comfort and just kind of an odd draft that
just plays on fast tempo and they're looking to come out of the lanes ahead.
Definitely have concerns for the bow auroras. It looks
Right like they said cookie cutter extremely cookie cutter and Mira gets a last pick rubik
Versus a grim stroke versus a five percent. It just looks like an insanely good rubik game as well, too
Reducing the damage of Batrider is a very annoying one not just the spells that he steals
But you just fade ball Batrider you reduce 24 of his day 24 percent of his damage. Yes, gonna be yeah a
Fun line the bottom line it's something that is usually we would never see this from any other team that
Offlane bat with support axe nobody else is gonna do this
With not imagine so I don't need to go see anybody else play off lane bat anymore whisper is pretty on the only one
So I'm I'm most of the game
I'm gonna be honest looking at him in this early game if he's able to get these early kills if he's able to set the temple for the team
That'll be the key for their success and it's fed gotta talk about it right here
That's not being played too much, but you let the point is most comfort
Okay jungles might be in trouble there
Axe is very good at the 1v1 to be able to trade like this, but when multiple more heroes come.
Florian, not Flor around. I guess yeah, these two don't really mess with him too much, so it's whatever.
So yeah, we'll just see what King Juggles can do here.
Mm-hmm, because the thing about this Axe, right, look at the base HP regen.
Sure.
You trade very effectively, you have 4.7, 3 armor, the harassment is nice too.
Any of you like, you're spouting about hunger or what are you doing?
Spamming on the support.
Yeah.
Sometimes it's not the easiest, because some teams, they do just end up giving him a deny,
or, you know, one of these extra last hits to build a permit off.
Let's go. We'll take that with an eye from him.
KJ, we'll get the courier.
Hey, I got to look at mid too, right?
The storm versus Viper.
Tylong, it's designed for him to stop the lane.
Let's see if he's going to be able to do so versus Makoto.
King Jaws might.
Is he dead here or...?
He should be right with the boots, right?
Yeah, he's okay.
Yeah, salvage the ready.
That was a nice carry, Mike Crosswell.
He actually managed to keep that away from him.
Gets the salv.
Full usage there.
A mid lane.
It should be...
I mean, Tylong has to win the lane.
He has to stop the lane, even.
We'll see if he's gonna be able to do that as well, too.
You could see early rotations, something from the roofing that you can do to change this matchup.
If a Viper gets killed early, it can change things pretty heavily.
And Mercado, you're gonna see him struggle, hiding behind the tree.
And Tylong, we'll see what build he does go this game. Hopefully not a fuser.
There should be pretty standard stuff, I think, on the Viper.
Yeah.
Not really huge amount that you can kind of switch up on this one.
Yeah, I'm really looking at them to just LGD in particular destroy lanes and then just play super active because they are not that cool down reliance in particular.
None.
It's not that much team fight.
And what do you make of the top lane? Because again, this is another lane we've seen from LGD that we just, we wouldn't see from any other team plays.
Grimstrike that's already a pretty rare pick at the moment on support and then Sven is the carry.
Slow damage.
A lot of teams, they're not even thinking of this hero one little bit. This is not a carry they can sit at playing ever.
Should be pretty free for the side of Aurora. That being said though, Yuma also should get some very solid farm up here.
And why, because why is Fn of the month? Well, why do we see no one else playing?
Not a big fan of it right now. I think it just runs into the issue of you're not a turret hero.
You don't build these usual items and all this and you do take some time to get online and the game does get very fast paced nowadays, so.
Mikoto is pushed to the jungle already super early here, so Taillung tendinize on him, controlling the lane positioning.
Maybe KJ will go hunt him a little, throw some battle hungers, push Mikoto out of the
lane.
So far Whisper doing good in this bottom lane.
I'm in level 2, they, KJ if you care for them dude.
They're not gonna drop anything off King Jungles, we'll see Top lane clear the core.
Steps too far.
One more hit.
One more hit!
They go in there against the first blood!
So Yuma might not die, but the damage that could come out between these two, it's not that low.
The thing about having Largo with Rubik is that reposition throwing them into the frog stump
can't start to add up, especially versus the support.
Yuma now that he's alone and they're going on him.
Yeah, McConaughey's gonna have to TP, grabs the wave, TP out.
And then after he's TP'd home, walk down the mid and by that time the wave should be there to farm.
Let's see if Tylon can do anything to manipulate this.
It's a big creep wave coming in.
Yeah, it's gonna be racing back towards the middle.
At least racing is quicker than the cannons.
You'll learn how to use the enemy on the patch, but as the stick charges,
try to turn his breath away onto mirror, it actually ends up getting the kill.
Oh, the early HP he purchased, the belt coming into play there.
Rotation coming in mid around this double creep wave.
Ex-mit, he wants to get close to this wave,
but pressure can indeed be put on.
Bottom lane, whisper.
finds the solo kill. That's massive. I whisper he does this on his Batrider a lot.
Oh, this is, yeah, rough for Makoto, because he can't really get close enough to these creeps
coming in under the tower. He just wants to soak the XP. We might just die, though.
Yeah, King Chung is able to walk up and get the call onto him.
Level five, Viper. Yeah, this is very nice pressure from King Jungles,
making sure that Makoto does not get to survive for many of the creeps coming in under his tower
at all. He's missed already one full wave about to be a secondary one.
This is really nice pressure here from LGD with their style with the Tyloin Viper
and they're trying to probably enable Tyloin too because he did have a bit of a rough game in that last one.
Make him happy. This is a great start for him.
He's a little bit low. Merritt's heading over.
Be a little cautious. How far you do want to push the issue here.
Don't want to die when you are two levels ahead of the other mid.
Miro will share that he can't get the rune on Mikoto as well but they're already setting the trap for him again.
They can go from a second on.
That's their backup though, they don't want to dive too hard versus lift.
Yeah, they're respecting the fact that Mira's here.
Damage reduction as well too, does come into play there, so have to be quite careful.
Yuma does get the kill top, but his farm is being slowed down.
Only 15 last hits at the moment on him.
A lot of them are actually almost having the same damage as a Sven, which is pretty crazy.
It's one of those 1v1s where WS is not going to necessarily fare too bad when it comes to CS'ing against a Sven.
You can probably kill... Oh, Mira.
May have found him.
That's what they do.
We're coming in.
We're lagging over, but not able to save him.
So, Yuma...
He's fed a nice kill.
Whisper...
Getting the sticky stacks.
And Kaori's around.
He's trying to get more stacks for a flame break.
He's trying to trade here.
Karora's gonna feel, he's gonna fall pretty low.
He's gonna die.
Alright, so Whisper's gonna,
easy one for Whisper then.
Should be a trade here though.
Nightfall will get it.
Bigger kill for him and around the loads of spawn,
so Nightfall will continue to be quite happy down here
on the safe lane.
But Whisper doing his thing.
He is putting a lot of pressure here.
He is.
Forcing the two to stay down there.
You can't leave Nightfall alone.
They are gonna TP mid to try to help the tower.
It's already gone.
Give Mikoto all that experience. Do not take any of this from the mid lane. Get out of here, supports.
He needs as much as possible to recover now as he's point on the storm.
Dive to our top around the wisdom.
Making the moves work so far.
Now, LQD, so far this early game.
Shaking things up across the map.
And giving Yuma every kill.
He's getting a lot.
So, putting him into a nice place. His last hits don't look the greatest, but he's getting the three kills.
Putting him in a solid spot.
pretty nice and with the pressure kind of taking away these early tier one towers
they're gonna have a fair bit of space secured for the Sven to farm.
And here is that.
OGD with their unique draft at the moment is looking good in this early game.
And this playstyle.
Yep.
Pretty good catch.
They are gonna hit another one shortly.
They got the call?
They got the Godstrip?
Okay.
Oh, it's a bit deep.
A little bit of a save there from WS and it does keep Gory alive so...
I wouldn't get that kill, but still very much keeping this pressure on.
And Whisper Bottom is able to lane now versus the Tiny, so Nightfall, it's not the safest
position for him, it's just 1v1 versus this bad at this point.
He does have a lot of stick charges to work for the next wave, but does have to be cautious
how he steps up here.
Double Observer Ward taken out too, LGD, doing their homework.
2k lead out of these lanes.
put in a position that they wanted to be out of these
and a very strong aggressive draft
that doesn't rely on too many cooldowns
so I want to see them continue to start running at them
since they have now taken out that wisdom
the support's gonna be super low level
Aurora's gonna have to go for recovery
I'm talking about the support
So for King Jungle when he's playing the axe support
what kind of build does he go?
Is he still just buying force and kind of support?
I think you buy a few self-attributes
I think he still just bought the support items
I actually can check, I don't remember exactly
which ones need to go for it, I think it's hard.
It's smoke time.
We'll have a bit of a pause, but we're going to get a smoke coming in from Ty Lung and King Jungles.
See if they can get into the, this upper part of the map and maybe find the coter before he's hit six.
He needs one more creep.
It would be a big kill again.
to get the six on the storm.
So if Thailand and King Junglers can make this move in time,
it's going to make this game very difficult for the storm.
Would be really nice timing.
And as the game progresses for the storm,
there is definitely that disable.
That's the one thing I did really like about this last pick,
Sven.
It gives him an initial stun to follow up.
It also combos very well with the Grimstroke.
But besides that, they didn't really
have the best way to lock down that storm in the mid game.
So this is going to help.
And of course, with that soul bind too,
the combo is quite decent.
Okay, so let me see what built he did end up going for.
So we're gonna run in a couple of games
and the qualifiers that they played.
That was whispered.
I was actually both whispering in those games.
Yeah, let me continue to check.
Okay, so here we go, KJ.
Okay, wow, this game went, what is this?
It came in two hours.
Wait, what am I, oh, this was the Yandex game.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, so yeah, it's some pretty crazy items.
At the end of that one.
I don't remember what he built first though.
So, eventually, of course, you will want a blank dagger.
Probably pretty early anyway, but perhaps some small items in between.
So yeah, we'll see.
I can't check which ones it was that he bought first.
So we're going to have a few blinks on this lineup, right?
Yep.
Uh, you're going to have, you know, pretty much the triple blink.
Yeah.
I want you as a second item.
Yeah.
The echo saber straight into the blink dagger, not tough, nothing out of the ordinary for
this fan, but then he has that first stun and so that they can get the followup for
the phantom, which they'll need at some points versus that store spirit.
Yeah.
Aurora super low level, super low on the gold at the moment too.
It's LGD in a very good position to pressure
So let's see if they can get Jon on to Makata before he hits the six nuke the creep on creep will do it
Nope
It's your perfect
4xp short that mirrors gonna die as well
Thailand very nice move from LGD. He is styling right now just running at them on this viper
Killing up the mage slayer first pretty solid game for that mage slayer too it's gonna reduce a lot of damage on this lineup
Kind of four of the heroes are all magical. It's really only nightfall is that physical
Phenomenal start for them
And Aurora they can't really respond with place because the supports are like level three their storm is level five
So they've known to play with in pair. No, the only one to really play around
It's going to be the time. It's going to be the time to use the echo bling or the echo shadow blade and that takes a bit of time
It does because the Largo is like he just sits back and he is not leaving the charge into any sort of play
The storm certainly isn't without ruff of the time Makoto's had in that mid air with map
So they've kind of just got to sit back and hope for the best and try and avoid these minutes from LGD
And yeah, and this is where this is where Sven looks really good because the Sven is not having pressure in his lane farm
Then he just free farms, and then he does super accelerate with this master band
It's looking like a very good start. Yeah, and from LGD super nice and WS
Another kill to be found
It's a scary map right now for Aurora. Most of these heroes will die if LGD
Yeah, just make any sort of move with any three of their heroes right now, it feels.
Nightfall might have to start, maybe slightly sacrificing himself when he gets the Echo Saber
to just get involved.
They look at it.
No game.
I don't think they're getting kills without the Tani any time soon.
And here, another one, Elastic Rupik, he has some good spells to steal, but he's 1-5
and he's a little 4th.
Man, it's looking pretty good here from them.
Truly limited.
I mean, more in kind of like their style.
Their style, right.
I feel like the last game, maybe it was just a little bit too forced, right, coming in with
snipers to close things up. It just wasn't something we really seen Tylong on and it
was just sort of a different vibe, right? It was too honest. This is more of like the
LGD vibe that we've seen them crush the group stage with. We didn't see them crush group
stages with the sort of style that they went for last game. No, they played too honest in
that last game. They went for a normal kind of drafting style. This one, this is right
up LGD's L, we're seeing it. Now, let me just say 4K and they ain't already here. Another
guy, they're just running at them. Literally getting every single one of the kills if anybody
He shows Whisper, Thorin 1.
These timings are going to be another one.
The support's just chain dying over.
My goodness.
He just can't stop dying.
What a difference from game 1.
Looks like a totally different game.
Yeah, last game it kind of looked like they didn't really have a plan.
This game it looks like they got a perfect plan.
They've got like 5 different points.
Yeah.
See what Aurora can do to try and slow this down, but this is a tough, tough start to this
game too.
This is one of those games where you have to, you kind of come back just from farming.
You can't really come back from fighting too effectively now, and this point it is.
Not necessarily tiny, thanks to Kul.
Yeah.
Well, not until like the tiny of the Phoenix, they're just so low level on the supports is the issue too.
That even if the tiny does show up, there's not really anyone else who provides damage with him.
So they need to try to find level somehow.
They're gonna try something.
Okay, it's not easy. They're gonna try and hit them with the numbers, right?
They're bringing four heroes with this early smoke.
I dare just like WS, you can't farm.
You need to do something.
We need to fix this game, because this is just
falling out of hand too quickly.
They'll find a solo grab, and I fall.
Why don't I show the grab as well?
If I'm tied along, it's going to be on the call coming over
to help out.
I'll get the soul bind out, but they do kill it.
So if we can get away, we'll just put close in,
and we'll get the double lasso there to pull up the soul bind.
So they will not beat without the casual teaser,
But it's a move and it's a trade. They take two heroes down across the map
They lose two heroes themselves. It's a very needed move at this point with this deficit
Just try to shut down this viper so he doesn't continue snowballing out of control here
But Yuma comes in get some cleanup kills his timings are looking fantastic. He's almost level 12 at the 12-minute mark
Whisper
Rushing the blink dagger he'll have it pretty soon here
essentially has it done already.
So double blinks are going to be coming out with a very aggressive line up with this type of advantage.
Aurora, going to have to be prepared behind each other.
I mean, that's the thing, you're behind each other, then you're getting soul-binded in the last load as we saw last time round.
It's not hard for LGD to find that sort of opportunity, because A, they're going to have all these blinks,
and B, you're playing against a three-core lineup, or two of them are melee, they're going to be at the front,
the front and the one that isn't the storm it's still gonna be zipping in very aggressively getting
on top of people so it's a side chance of your soul finding two cores in most of these fights
and it started it's it's a good phantom embrace game he's got three points in it versus the phoenix
and the storm absolutely can start running away with things five six it just continues to grow
nice big stack as well here for us but really level 12 on the on the back you know having to
Get crazy levels actually three levels ahead of
You know, Makoto on the mid on the other side and WS on the other side
Two level twits
Yeah, already at this point and they're with them on the next paint
Aurora, they will be able to get their wisdom
So the supports are gonna hit six off of this at least K-Ori will
You might just go down here
He's gonna dive in a TP in a second so
Probably alright
Surprise, did he just pop the god strength there?
Okay, did he need it?
He needed it!
He did the maths!
He did the maths
There we go, look at that!
Blink, dagger, dagger.
It's the only one for you, mate.
Plane of that chill is a deep-nosed panic.
Dagger of Ristol.
Nice big bonus damage, too.
That's enough.
It is.
Come on, there's a 9k network nearly on the Sven.
I can't even remember last time I cast the Sven.
I can't do it.
When did we last see a Sven?
They've put him in the old game somewhere else, maybe, where other teams have picked up.
I can't remember ever talking about a Sven in like a year or something.
Me and you have not gone to Sven in about a year.
Whisper it.
Bring in the numbers.
So for the two of them here, it is enough damage though.
That is the biggest kill they've gotten so far here.
And Nightfall is the one to claim it.
Nightfall's got to make these moves.
And soon he'll be able to really step up how frequently he can look for them.
The Shadowblade is nearly done on the Tiny.
Aggression coming though.
They're coming for him.
Blink on Yuma.
Straight away, they get the jump onto Magonzo.
He's got a little bit of mana for the Soulbinder.
The Phantom's embrace is out onto him.
Can they catch him though?
They're all trying to back off.
He's going to be fine, Magonzo.
They don't get the finish off there.
Good sort of positioning for the team coming in and making sure that Makoto was sort of deep enough, but the rest of LGD could not get anything else onto him.
Sixes are hit now, Kaori does have ag. They have to be a bit more careful how aggressive they want to play here now on the side of LGD versus these ults.
To smoke up from Aurora.
They want to try and play with this timing.
They're feeling strong with their timing and they know God strength is down now and they've got a number advantage here.
The Kodo is under award here. They're anticipating this move. They're bringing the Grimstroke.
Lawn Zip.
What a stun from Yuma. That's mid dive. Mid dive.
Oh, that was a meaty stone coming out there with the storm. I'm into the three-man call
Mira incidental reward. He's trying to find Yuma and he'll get him.
It's gonna cost him his life, so a little something picked up at the end. A fair bit of gold
They're putting an end to Yuma's street, but still cost him a guy with life. This bottom ward
They were pinging it to right like right afterwards
He's gonna go de-ward that instantly because the storm wasn't in the smoke when they initially went so they could port the Grimm stroke down
be completely prepared for. But Yuma! It was Yuma!
Three man stun! Look at this!
Look at this stun!
Wow!
Right off your feet!
A huge stun into a beautiful call!
If you don't...
That one, I'm ready for that one, Aurora!
Look, if it doesn't hit the Phoenix, this could be perhaps a little different, right?
Because the egg is gonna come out, and it does get a little bit scarier there,
but the fact that he gets it perfectly there...
Nice and done from Yuma.
On one of his heroes, as we said, it is one of his better ones.
That's a big juicy bounty though. Level 12 for Mikoto now after that kill.
He's smiling. That's definitely smiling.
That's a big kill.
When it's such a grim game so far here, if you're able to get that type of kill.
Like, hey, I killed the carry.
Yep. Big deal. Solo kill, so he's...
Yeah, level 12. Same as that tiny now.
Shadowblade done.
Hmm?
Nightfall will have a bit of a better chance of sneaking up and setting up players or coming into counter moves.
At least hunting the Grimstroke, right? That's probably the biggest one. If you can catch that before a Phantom, before a Solvide.
He's getting a lot off in these fights, the Anacor.
Even when they kill him, he's pretty much got all his spells off.
If he can get caught first, that's probably the ideal situation for Nightfall.
But yeah, hard to break that frontline here at this point versus these Blink Daggers too.
Yeah, Kingdome rules just a couple of hundred gold of having his Blink Dagger.
Okay. Pretty decent timing too for a 4 slash 5 position.
Axe
He's essentially got it done
And they can keep getting three-man stuns like that right with the blink too will be a lot easier to do so
I mean that's the thing that they've got good chance of doing so to say with these three cores that Aurora have there
It's a high likelihood that they will be quite close to one another
With the way that they want to enter into the team fights things slowing down a bit here though
Kari vessels gonna be done pretty solid vessel game versus this fight in particular
No, this was gonna have that BKB with these
Look at those stacks. 19-4.
I mean, he's pretty much the only one who does this and he can do it because of...
He just knows all the timings, right? He knows exactly when to be sweeping around this area.
It's the bat maximizing the stacks, maximizing clearing them, and just getting this fantastic amount of farm.
He's the best bat. Bye, Flare.
Super... I mean, this has to be one of the fastest timings on bat.
Level 16, Blink, BKB, Trump.
Yeah, I gotta look for play with this immediately.
And in a great game to be a back, because you go to Grimm.
Yep, double assos for free.
Extra amp in the level 15 talent, and we get there too.
The 25% soul blind spell amp is pretty absurd with a Batrider 2.
So Rora has to be pretty defensive for these next few moments.
They do have Nightfall with the Shadowblade.
You might get caught.
Very careful.
They're 12,000 centuries, just in case he heads up here.
He knows something is up. He is reading the play.
Kaori is pushing bottom super hard. There is no reaction, so perhaps this is an indicator
that he knows that they are smoked somewhere. They're making the long walk to bottom.
Now, Kaori gets jumped. He's going to be pretty dead.
Oh, yeah.
It's still pretty low level on these supports to level 9 on Kaori and Amira.
See you Ma.
If you see any of them, he will be straight on top of them.
They gotta know that there's no way he's alone, so they do back away.
They know the Tormentor's probably likely to be getting set up for so Aurora.
Of course!
He's in a shot!
He just tried to cut the waves and just dies for it.
Now Mira will keep you away, so Tormentor will be free there for LGT.
This is a rough game for the supports. 14 deaths on the two of them here.
Yeah, and it's going to be the quad blinks as well.
All PO as well. Just all wanting to know to get their spell combos.
You get a good soul bind, the fight's kind of over.
Yeah.
So the positioning, everything here.
Oh, that's pretty nice. The KJ actually gets the shard.
More battle hunger.
Try this for a blind call.
Nightfall is making the move toward bottom. They want to try to set up on Yuma before he has his BKB.
He needs a plus one.
Yeah, he can't do it on his own.
No.
I mean even with a plus one probably has to be even the Phoenix of the Storm top plate.
Another pick off.
Mera's gonna get that behind.
He's not gonna stick around for this.
My goodness.
Yeah, they are just dying all over the place he supports.
I have the catch WS mid, we'll be able to bit deep anyway to go for the Bilargo there.
They're kind of crushing them here.
They are absolutely, they continue to set the timings and going for all the objectives
too.
Yeah and in an entertaining fashion, their support, axe and carry Sven, and even we'll
give them that, the off-lane bats, I mean again you do not see.
And the Grim, right?
And the Grim bit?
It is like very out of the ordinary.
The only boring pick is Talon on the Vibe, but you know he's allowed to have it.
He's got a tough game, last game, so he's like, you know, just give me some a nice and chill.
Yep.
He gets to play the chill here, everyone else is doing some kind of crazy.
It's all working out.
And they're going for the enabling.
They're looking to accelerate.
They might be looking for like a high ground push pretty early here on the side of LDD.
I think we've won G-Ride.
Cause you can buy the shard of the Viper.
You give him, if you give him the Aegis, that's usually an indicator that you want to continue accelerating things as much as possible.
Yep.
Once the tier 2s, Spinole stone comes out.
Not a good Aegis carrier, of course, as we always talk about, right?
The transformation here is not the greatest.
Aurora trying to fight time, trying to find space, he's going to find WS, there's no
canesist to stop him but Yuma closes in, has to stun the lasso's there, vibe for strike
down on the WS, they'll get both of them.
Alright, Naifo has to, he got completely insane this game, completely insane this game.
The storm and the Largo, completely shut down, the Rubik not able to get any spell steals.
was used to so mid lane I believe the shark is now delivered on the viper
I think they can start to knock on the front door pretty soon here I mean who's gonna get them off
the top that's the exact gonna get them on the barricade you're gonna step up it's fire spirits
but there's a quad blink dagger on their lineup yeah anyone steps out if anyone shows you get jumped
yeah this is beautiful place for them and it just it looks like a totally different team for the last
game I mean because maybe that game one was just exactly that right that sort of a
option to leave the loan through it in, see if they can deal with it, try for some sort
of different response to the mid-match up to the end, coming in with a snipe or something
that we don't normally see from the squad.
It doesn't work out, so game two, they're just back to what they know, what they want
to do.
I imagine this is sort of a lineup, but whilst we don't see it a lot of the times from other
teams, even from themselves, something that they probably practice quite a bit, because
it's just running so perfectly right now.
And some of the panel was talking about it, sometimes the predictability of Aurora, even though their drafts are always good, they always have a reason to pick these heroes, sometimes they don't do any of this kind of tricky random stuff where they like start a trial lane, bring two heroes to the mid to kill somebody, anything like that, they aren't pretty cookie cutters.
So, with the LGD, taking advantage of that with this type of style.
3 men smoke, Aurora is trying to get us as much as possible here for Nightfall.
close to the point where it is you might not want to play much more this game
because you are getting destroyed here by LGD with a very fun lineup they just
used their base glyph I now at this point that's definitely an indicator for
LGD is going to go to the high ground because if they don't have a glit for
those towers here I this is just great reach and this vent pick is actually
looking just so perfect to like the follow-up could he kill him can't kill
him perfect at the glimstone and whoever made the call they've read the
They knew that Aurora was gone for this.
Perfectly prepared.
As clean as possible this game, Anthony.
I don't...
I'm pretty sure it's your mistake so far.
Maybe we're sort of like some sort of bad omen for the games that we've casted,
but I feel like it's another one where we're seeing the Largo not being too hot.
No, I don't.
It seems a shame, because WS...
I can't remember the draft exactly.
I'm sure probably his main one's got banned out,
but WS normally pops off on these, you know, kind of signature heroes from him.
It feels like a bit of a shame when he's putting something like a lager right.
You can't carry the game on a lager.
Absolutely agree. Actually, let me look at what the winner is like on the screen.
It's still not that bad. It's still some 50-50 years on a win rate.
It feels like on the playoffs lately, it's just losing every game.
I mean, I think maybe that's what it is about the hero.
We'll get the chance to catch a core inside this.
We have those two jungles talking about WS.
He's actually going to get involved and set up the kill on that.
One thing about the hero is it just doesn't play that well from behind, right?
behind right? Well that's the thing right when you're on a team and you start losing you're not
bringing that you're not turning the game around no you're playing Lago and you're kind of like oh well
well needed the team to do a little bit more they couldn't not a lot I can do that. You're an enabler
you're not a you know takeover kind of hero you're not a player you're not gonna you can't really
build around the Lago to do some sort of crazy team fight play to come back in as you can with a lot
of the other offlaners. You're reliant on your other cores just to pop them up either with Krull
Of course with Storm, the Croak is fantastic, but Storm has no game for Mikoto.
LGD.
Go back away, playing it a little bit safe here. They do get some damage onto the top tower.
More than half HP.
Tylaan will just go for the BKB next to play it safe.
In this game, his item build. It is very nice.
Pretty standard, of course, on the Viper build.
Yeah, as I said, you know, after the last game, tried to be a bit creative.
After that, it was fun on the Sniper. Didn't end up being that fun.
Not fun.
This game is just chilling on the Viper.
Mm-hmm doesn't have to do anything too crazy and he's having a great time yet. I'm one and seven time very well
That glyph is still on cooldown
Which can't look to continue at the push time on price this time his team
Let me finish the BKB though, so we don't just fully jump too far
They will have that triple BKB for their cores whisper is getting close to an agonims
Mikoto has BKB, so they do have a double BKB timing on the side of Aurora. Just damage is extremely limited at this point
I can't remember what the agnoms on back, can you quad lasso with the solve one or is
it just a third lasso because I need the second one.
I think it's just, pretty sure it's just the third.
I feel like it's just the third right.
Yeah, maybe it is the fourth.
I play a lot of bad riders and I'm pretty sure it's actually the fourth.
You think you can get the quad lasso?
I think you can, yeah.
Maybe it depends because can the secondary target sometimes be the same as the secondary
one that the solve one was getting, you know, I mean.
Well, if they get hit by that, they lose the game anyway, so.
If they get hit by a double lasso, they probably just lose it.
That's the potential. Very flashy. Very fancy.
Yeah, they put together a great minor for Chris Grimshaw.
Yep.
And the Five Axe, it's a big moose from him at the start.
It's clever. He was a key part in kind of just completely crushing any chance of McConaugher recovering his game in that mid-area.
And it's the way that they do it too, where they pick the Axe and they kind of beat in a way right there.
They go pick the Tiny and then they put this kind of counterpick style versus it.
versus it.
It's good, it's good.
That tiny versus the axe is a fantastic matchup
versus the tiny, if it was a core axe,
but in this type of fashion,
you can see how he's just manipulating
and allowing the batch to shut down the tiny.
And it seems like it exactly works out very nicely
with the bat, because you can kind of leave the bat
on his own, because it's whisper, right?
Whisper, I can lane fine on my own, I'll survive.
And if the lane gets too hard,
I'm gonna be able to head back to the jungle
and I'm gonna get insanely farmed there anyway.
So there's a lot of flexibility for king jungles
to run up and down the map
and just be a general nuisance.
And he had, you know, a viper
just completely destroys the storm spirit so he has free reign to kind of just
move around do these please is my son for a nateless humor massive at this point
base defense that's what it's got to be here for a while but I heard is soon there
for killing already so that will add a lot of damage which they do need
desperately but it's a base defense that could fall apart so quick oh I mean
this is for blinks like something shows just blink stun dead game over they may
not get any abilities off on the side of Aurora and just die.
Ok D, ready for the jump, Glyph is coming back up in about 20 seconds here.
Is anyone going to show?
Nobody wants to nuke the wave.
No, because then there's an eye chance that somebody's going to jump onto them.
Do it from a distance, checking with the distiller on the bottom side, we'll be able
to throw the spam.
They saw Whisper Firefly.
LDD giving some respect, a little scared to just relentlessly jump into the base here in the new forest.
Cancel with the plate, safe. Rosh, bit of a long spawn, they won't find a DD for Yuma.
Probably play around their ward and look for a jump.
Aurora have to sit in the base here triple bkbs finished on their course but
the question is this is their damage
waiting for their opportunity to catch somebody whisper waiting in the wings has
the lens that lasso range that's secondary lasso as well yeah I'm
guaranteed almost
Control the map regen rune spawn stuff if you set the long reach rush on spawn so they may just wait for it
I'm the heading out Aurora. Oh, they might just catch up here Aurora
My full can you find the jump it does he have the damage?
Use the courier
Let's go for the tower
Extra money a good idea where each other is
I'm not going to be able to find any small pick off or anything, LGD, looking to strike
now in.
WS.
Careful.
50 seconds, they check the roach, not up yet, they're playing it, yeah, play it safe.
Hold control of the area until that one's up, they know that the pressure's on Aurora
to try and start something before they have to, LGD.
This should get the Tormentor here, on the side of Aurora.
We'll be able to get this exchanged.
He's got Stick and Lotus. Might have to use both.
Might have to even walk away anyway.
He dies.
Not painful.
He's about 50 seconds of...
He didn't want to use the Great Healing Lotus, I guess.
Wanted to save it for potentially for one of his cores later on.
Okay.
They do have a save now, from...
Not much.
To be honest, they do have to lift at the least, but it's not gonna be that useful for the Batrider, of course, you cannot grab them.
Not the two of them.
Kodo?
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
He was ready to go for that.
Super dangerous.
Getting a little bit of extra gold on the side of Aurora here, even WS.
Getting some space up top after going through the tormentor and going through the gate.
But now, Rush.
There's gonna be one there.
Yep.
We're gonna have to deal, calling back the defense.
No way to confess this.
And a shield room. That's nice, River.
Let's see if King Jungle's confined WS up top.
It's got BKB, but he is very dead.
Yeah, they've got cool, they've got Lasso's,
so no way to TP out away from these arrows.
He's just dead to autos.
If Thailand finishes off that Roche, they've got the banner in the pit too.
The push is coming.
If they want to be super safe, they can wait two minutes for the catapults to come to.
Use the banner for the double catapults and go for that push.
Mira.
They found Makoto.
For the last time, into the silence and the damage from Yuma.
And that's a long time to be dead.
Full minute here now without Makoto.
Orori just can't find anything on the map.
LGD not making any mistakes, no slip-ups.
They can start to bring the waves in.
And...
Gonna just have to...
If you're Aurora, put everything into the high ground defense.
Nightfall trying to shelf this top lane out, but they're heading over for him.
Yuba!
Couple of heads to cut down, Kaoru!
Go for the TPR, Nightfall! He'll make it away before they can close the gap.
No force staff up as close though. KJ did have it.
have it, it would have been able to catch with that call. They're not letting them do this
type of play where you split off and you try to cut waves and all this. They're playing
on all three of these lanes to ensure that they can just shut them down so they don't
get anything extra on the map. Clean movements.
And they know that they can do this right because especially whilst there's not a full
team up, nobody's at any sort of threat on LGD even when they're split up.
The damage from Nightfall, once he has Daedalus, perhaps can start looking for some of these
individual pickups, but it's super dangerous.
Jump to the last ground.
Wispers got the ground.
And what the BKB, but the call's in.
WS.
He's gonna get a little bit of help from the coach over.
Will not be saved.
Yuma has a full satanic at this point already too.
11-1 and 11.
Banners down.
They're not even waiting for the siege creeps.
They're going for this push.
Nine for at least.
How about a Snipe, Wispers, Curry? They'd have a...
What?
A Riva, I'm gonna be his overwhelming blink.
Yep.
Little tipping thrown out there, he really wanted that.
Getting overwhelming at this point in the game,
when you're this far ahead, does feel...
super nice.
Remember the Snipe, Kapoororra?
Gotta find the backline, gotta try something,
cause your base, it is dying.
I'm not that high long though.
Lost attempt to turn this game,
so if this play doesn't go right for Aurora,
it may just be game over.
Can't finish off the creeps better down and ready
Whisper just waiting for the right target waiting for that tiny
Lincoln's is grabbed but that secondary last off can bypass it
Trying to start high-long nightfall goes in does find the axe
Finds the lasso onto the Phoenix, buyback comes out straight away from Kory, same to be sent for King Jungles.
Nice little snipe play there from Naipaul, blinks out immediately.
Standard.
Kona jumps in, he's gonna put the BKBs on!
Gonna zip away from this fan.
Mira gets the mic to save him.
Oh, Naipaul, he's gonna jump in and try and fight back, but the call's there!
You're gonna bring in the damage, but the BKBs out from Naipaul, they have to snoop and over down!
Look at this, he's trying to try and kill the egg out, they'll kill the egg!
Yuma's dead!
Big damage.
They are holding!
They kills it! Taking out the spend!
Tylons still has Aegis. Hard to chase forward for him. They need Nightful to reset.
It's something. They keep the game alive. They keep that base relatively safe. They'll still have this mid-set on the top set of barracks and towers to protect.
And they might just be able to kill Tylons twice here. They'll get the toss onto him.
Whisper's got Last on three seconds. Does he even want to help them?
I'm gonna be very careful about how they go for darling a second time. They're just missing. They're just in Thailand
They're scared to lose more heroes
Tyler is our master kills. Oh, okay. Nightfall
Alright, we've got a game on our hands now. It did feel like it was on the verge of completely crumbling for Aurora
But they managed to hold only cost them the one buyback as well on kori
I nightfall doing some insanely clutch plays getting in getting out getting in getting out over and over again
And Yuma's God Strength wore off, didn't have BKB, pops the Tannik, but he's under the egg, under the Sunray. He burns.
Mostly Nightfall though, look at that damage he was able to do.
Alright, what the swing head?
That's a pretty massive one, the fact that they get the Viper twice and they just abandon him.
Nightfall.
Level 23 now, has the Daedalus, getting closer toward that next item as well, and he's got a new neutral item.
See if he gets what he gets.
Giant's Mall.
Pretty good one.
Even more damage for him things being shaken up here for LGD. I mean what you do if you're LGD
Did you just go back again for another push?
Do you have to sort of reassess the situation after you do get shaken up like that?
I think you just saved the lasso for the tiny
All right for whisper sure he got the Phoenix initially, but he was able to come back in nice true
I mean, yeah, the tiny is the only one really bigger
Yeah, I would imagine he probably prioritized that a little bit more here fine. Cory
You can live, you have to lick him up the side.
Whisper.
Nice to put the BKB here, the threat of Makoto's storm.
And now it's where, you know, when you buy these overwhelming blinks sometimes you're
like, ugh, okay.
Bit over aggressive that they've gone for here.
Aurora with a massive strike back.
Viper strike also stolen from Era.
Keep tabs on this one if he does land it on the Sven.
If Candice prevents the majority of the damage on him, then he's going to be able to dish out, of course.
Miro can just Viper strike him, and he's just kind of stuck in place, even with BKB.
Rora started to find more and more elements to take these fights, and regen now for Makoto as well.
And Nightfall.
Should be a crazy game if he's able to come back with this one in so far.
Yeah, he's doing the work.
He really is, you know, throughout all the chaos, there's 37 kills that LGD has gotten against Aurora so far.
He's only died twice now.
The literal rock for his team.
6-2 and 3 so far.
Wonder if Mikoto...
I guess he does feel like he needs more armor, in particular on the Storm, but I wouldn't even hate him going for something different here like Agnes, but...
Perhaps he still wants to have his own scaling, since he did get a big comeback now in this game.
I have the Queen Luster play on a corey gets the egg off, but they'll kill it and the center King Jungles also to find a call
I'm at the side. Thanks for staff. Horses in close to the team. Two supports gone.
Watch me. Looking for another cat, Whisper.
Has hit 25. Has another insane timing of damage here.
Oh yeah, for the base pushes in particular and for when they're looking for a full clash,
I want to see him use this lasso on the tiny in most situations.
I feel has been finding these angles though.
We saw him pop the axe at the beginning of things too.
They're looking for a sneaky play here, Aurora.
Trying to catch a backline here, oh.
And this is a risky one.
They hit three versus five.
Yeah, and lasso is coming back up very soon here too.
damage at the ready if they want to pick that up in the moment they're not going for it now I
sort of just running straight over the walls then TP out anytime they're back away never just
saying maybe if they could get lucky and catch someone alone they don't so they head back to the
base rifle has a lot of gold here 4600
starting to get stronger and stronger lotus or the lincoln's coming out here too for ws
Yes, the rare time that you don't see an agonist purchase up through these Largos, usually they do go for it, has not, he's forgotten it completely.
I don't mind it, I think he did have a Q'd up earlier, I guess just reconsidering and just wanting to go all in on the Lincoln's.
Showing that he can keep this tiny safe and protected from these sort of piercing lockdowns.
Now it's becoming quite a bit more difficult for Whisper to just go for a target because they have essentially, it's like four Lincoln's in a way, right?
Because he can use it on two targets, protecting himself.
very strong here start bringing in the bottom wave again
now gd it's coming up flesh and flesh towards the right time so yeah at this
point almost barely see them wait can't take another risk like that this lead
has got chunked down massive nice like i fucking do it now at this point it's
about to hit 25
don't want to make another slip up here they're gonna smoke look for a catch
Makoto would get quite a nice jump.
Not if I pass the Lincoln's, gets his hit.
Still find his point.
I don't need to use the lasso. Easy kill.
Hunting. Looking at for a nightfall.
He has snuck toward the other way.
25 has been hit for him. 6,000 gold.
Nightfall continued to hold on to that.
So much money.
I mean, do you think he will go for the Satanic or what else could he be considering?
He doesn't have slots, so maybe he's thinking like, yeah, like the Silver Edge or like Swift Blank perhaps could be something first that he gets, but we shall see.
Nice steal there, Pailory. They're getting, I mean, they're getting more and more as this game goes on.
This next rush. Crucial for LGD25 has been hit for Yuma.
I mean, because Aurora will probably try and come and fight this rush, right?
Like, they've closed the gap enough to be able to bring together a 5 on 5 teamfight around the rush.
Yeah, it's still difficult, but absolutely can do so if Nightfall can find the angle.
Especially that they have all these Linkens to protect each other.
How long does Linkens even last? I'm trying to do like the math on it, but...
14 seconds... 40% extra...
It's like 18 seconds I think on the Linkens yourself that it ends up becoming.
That he can throw the buff out onto his ally, so it's a long time from the Largo and Nate.
Everyone is getting to cut waves. I mean, Nyfok is catching up. He's about to be the same that with those fans.
Yeah, he's getting a crazy amount.
He's not getting caught. It's a wild thing as well, too. They're trying to find him.
Oh, Corey. You know, get out of the map.
Tylon?
Doesn't have TP though. He's on call down.
So where's N'Wall find him?
Drops the egg.
They won't be able to kill the egg, but they'll probably have a high chance to kill him after it.
As it's straight away they jump over, kill Kory off so there'll be no interruption from a Phoenix around this row, Shad.
Two minutes? No, I can't contest that rose for sure. Two minutes no Aggie.
We'll give him a small window to push toward that high ground when there is no Phoenix as well.
Turn to the pit, quick to take the Aegis. We'll must certainly again give it to Tai Lung and just get him straight down the lanes and back onto the tower.
And now we could see like eight lassoes or whatever the hell it could be. God knows what the refresher as well, two for the Batrider, Puzzle, Grimmscuck.
Whisper it up, get it gone on, Makoto!
We'll prop the Aeon.
He's got to be really careful Makoto, because Humor is coming across to help Whisper out.
What did he use to prop the Linkins there? Was it the Harp Gord?
Something there.
Aeon just gonna after the Rubik.
If he said this supports, have 27 deaths, which is pretty insane on the side of Aurora,
but Nightfall still only has a turn.
He's holding strong!
He is holding strong.
You don't want to do it here on the tiny.
Closing in on the moneywaffle, Satanic, and buyback.
back easy. Very close. That's supposed to be sell something to get it in into his build.
And on the other side turned by the Satanic. We have Ty Lung having his done.
Satanic, Scotty Viper and the Sages. He is absolutely ready to just sit up there on the
high ground. Start taking the base. And let's watch Whisper with this refresher too. How
many targets he's going to be able to grab. And Field Accord has picked up a hex. So he
can do his own combo. So I'm going to buy him a hex. Nightfall has to play the fight perfectly.
There we go. So just sell the treads. Get that slot freed up for the satanic pick up there on tiny
Mobility will not be the best in the fights, but he does do a lot of damage
Was coming in banners down
Lincoln's buff always will be a knife fall
to jump the line. Do they have a smoke for the wrap? They do have a smoke for the potential
wrap around here, but it is still into Aegis and Cheese, so it's not super easy to go for
by any means. LGD slow pushing. Whisper waiting for an angle. A lot of Linkins, he has to
bypasser has to try to either wait for one of them to be popped or grab a support that allows that second one to grab the
other target through the lakins.
A little bit of harassment there from Makoto, but darling, can he'll back up, take it, jump, toss back, toss back!
Back on, toss back, look at the last one of the two supports, he'll find them! Mirazio, this will protect him for now, then the ball takes him to Yuma!
Yuma pulls himself back to stage with the harpoon, the buybacks come out from Kaori, Makoto trying to dive on forward.
How long is still strong though? They can't finish off the banner. Still with that Aegis.
Nightfall holds the BKB this whole time.
Kayori is forced to buy back.
LTV will respect it.
Catapults.
Are still affected by the banner.
They're really easy to get fresh yet to it. Kind of just with Karde. He's trying to kill this banner.
Whisper did pop the refresh.
Organs can come out, Nightfall's gonna go straight for the backlights, but the Claw's there controlling him, Huber's in on top of him!
See him trying back off in Nightfall, you must hand him, look at the one who's got it all, and sip away here, Huber pulls Nightfall back in with the half-boot, Nightfall's gone!
He's back back, need you to buy back here for Nightfall in the tiny!
That was a deep resetting.
Tyla is still so healthy, he still has his hand, he's hand ages!
That was the refresher for the secondary lasso.
There's no buyback available here for Mira.
No, and Nightfall, no BKB available for him.
I'm telling you, I'm in the back end.
I'm gonna finish off this top set of barracks.
Nice build from Tylong, it's really nice.
Just the Scottie plus that Zintana, he's so innately tanky.
He hits so hard to go on him.
Yep, and he does just siege the buildings.
He doesn't have to let Yuma risk his positioning to go for those buildings.
Yuma can just wait for the follow-up on the whisperer bat jump.
Ten seconds to lasso.
Slowly but bit by bit getting close and close to the victory here LGD. Just one final set of barracks
He's getting the double assos to scout it up again
The whole squad back up in 10 seconds Aurora the base still a minute on the ages. How long is this bringing it down?
He's going for some sort of reaction they're going to go, pull the end, drive for the DOS back, but it doesn't quite come up with what they hoped for, and now the hex is out of a corner, is it?
Carp will you, but jump southward towards him, he's dead.
He's got five.
They take the Aegis out of their hands of Tylon.
If you can do anything here on the round 2, they've not been mega creeped quite yet.
But they will very shortly die long back up, finish us off the barracks.
They'll be also dead.
Also, they still have the one down bottom, never mind.
Mm-hmm, two more.
A little bit of low health left on the melee rack share on the bottom lane.
Forcing the buybacks though, Aurora with potentially one last hurrah here.
They're gonna smoke.
I think they did.
Yeah, they did.
Yeah, they did.
Yeah, they're ready to go for some sort of crazy smoke play.
Got to catch him off guard, catch him with guards, but anything is uncool, any small thing.
Nightful leading the way.
They can't just take a fight like this right now.
Not on the defensive. The Viper just hit the building.
They can't do much about it.
They have to go some crazy reckless play here, so let's see what they can find.
They can hit by a scan though, so they know that this move is coming out of the base.
I'll give you super prepared.
He's gonna get the opening up to Tyler, if he'll stall the stuff that BKB can hit, he'll probably get the chance to BKB!
So Tyler and Xebel will run, they'll try and chase him here, BKB comes to an end the battle,
a vortex onto him, but they've been both so bound to fight the other core, the silent sound as well as the call, as McCona is out for two minutes!
Nightfall has to BKB TP, they won't stop him from getting out, GG!
But the rest of his team, they cannot escape, and indeed will be forced to move on to a game three as LGD takes the game two win.
Doing it in their style, Aurora, Nightful in particular, he tried his best to bring this one background at the end, but it was just a little too difficult.
And yeah, fun to see LGD, especially after the game one where they really struggled to just bring in, you know, come back in with their own flair and they do it.
Completely different style completely different heroes, but they absolutely took over this game so fast all three lanes looking very very good
And this support grip stroke
I know we've been asking for the serial versus like angles and whatnot
This looks really good with the synergy with their draft in particular
He ends with 29 assists using it with every single kill their grace are from clear the core and yet the whisper about once again
Once again, they pretty much the only luck that would do it right now here in the tournament incredible stuff
And you know I spend in this day and age we have see what it ages
22 and 13, my goodness, Sven carry, he might be back.
I don't think there's any question about it Owen, it's definitely back, right guys?
You'll start seeing it in every pub, every pro game from now on.
For sure.
For sure.
I mean, we've got to talk about just how good the early game went for these guys to
Sven we haven't seen in a while, but he did so well in his lane.
All lanes really went very splendid for LGD.
Yeah, it's a cool response to Largo.
Largo's, he wants to survive over a long period of time, keeps drumming his thing,
thing and Sven says no wham wham so it's a it's a nice conceptual counter pick it makes sense
nothing we see often i haven't actually seen it maybe even at all recently but
we did see it when Lorval first started gaining popularity so it's cool to bring it back
I mean it helps that he's partnered with probably one of the best position fives to make Sven feel
like it's good in lane you have the ink spell for the chase down Grimstroke of course they did put
Fjordekor in the top lane to utilize Sven's strengths and uh yeah I mean it is just a cool
little combo Grimstroke as well the the bug the bug against the storm spirit against lago
really cool way is to stop these here in their tracks and they have to stand still, right click it.
Once you get three points in the bug it does take three hits so it's just obnoxious if you get it in
the early game and I gotta say the LGD. This is just exactly what you want to see with their heroes.
This is not a draft to sit back and hit creeps and just watch the game progress. They just went
absolutely mad on the map and just massacred anything that moves. And we said at time now again
that is where LGD thrives. That style is what brings them to life. I am a little bit
Resident really to sing that praises as highly as maybe some others are just because of how long it did take them to
End up closing out the game despite what felt like a ramp at the beginning. Yeah, it was it was messy
It was not clean. I think especially the way they moved around the map
There was a lot of sort of chasing Aurora around and not really setting up that much
The way you generally want to do is you want to hem them in slowly moving them back and forth into the like their trapped in base
There was none of that. I don't think a royal
I mean, it's kind of like the
first use to the ages of Viper
like going up the high ground
Sven suddenly jumping in after
it's like you don't need to do
any of this. Just let the Viper
hit the buildings. Sure. The
ages after they started doing
that, and then they got mega
groups, right? But it took them
one ages to realize how they
wanted to kind of progress and
end the game. And I don't think
you need to be learning in the
game. I think they want to be
just playing it perfectly next
time. But alas, who really cares?
We've got to start with the
that. I'm not sure if you can
see that next time. But alas,
who really cares? We got to
see an X position five. Yeah I
should. Five Astro formal
apology on that one. I might
have been a little too harsh
preemptively. To be fair, it
was kind of X 4.5 because he
did start in the off lane and
like we have a heat map of him
like this type of movement is
kind of like a. It's a new role
that you can add to Dota because
like my guy was living in the
mid lane. He was already
running at the storms for it.
I'm leaving my offlane alone. I'm gonna grief whisper. It's not the case and Tylong's Viper.
Like, you don't see it to often be successful, but in this game, shutting down the storm,
the fact that your heatmap of your axe between minute 340 to 9, brother lived in the midlane,
the enemy triangle, even ganking top as well. Like, this was not a support that was stationary.
Like, he just, he was, it looks like a radiant hero's heatmap.
Yeah, it does, actually.
No, I think, um...
Very similar to Stormsphere's heatmap, actually.
Just to be clear, Quinn, if you were playing this game right now, how happy would you be
for it where your heat map shows that you lived more in the jungle to base than even
that doesn't even show that you've touched the river by Jones. Yeah, he's actually not hit the
mid tower. Yeah, five to nine minutes. Yeah, he was he was having a bad time. It's a and I think
to be honest, he played quite well on King jungles. I think he did just about as much as he could
on this here. He's like a hair away from six and he dies again. He was having a tough time
and they hated on him like crazy. But I will say you don't need to fully rescind your axe hater
the letter because I think a big part of his whisper and I think a big reason why the axe five worked is because they got something so valuable in Batrider
It's really good against tiny and it gives you the damage and sort of this long fight skirmish potential that axe wants to have with battle
Hungers is really nice synergy there and whisper is also just the goat on Batrider
No one else can play the lane like he did get as much so he's like killing them 1v2
I think that is a big reason why axe worked and I give all the flowers to him because to me
I feel like if the lane doesn't go as well as it does and whisper doesn't cook as hard as he does like walk in hand
and flipping stuff like crazy, then it would look very sus.
But it's also kind of like the mutual respect of everyone.
Like this is not like an Axe 5 that has like zero prep.
Like they know what the Viper needs to do.
They know what the Bat has to do, same with the Grimstroke.
Like you look at the itemization as well.
It's like every person was like,
we are going to progress this map.
Sure, it has a bit of those clunky moves
like Quim was mentioning, where you're bundling up as Viper.
Like seeing that you have like these multiple blink daggers,
the Viper has the shard with the Mage Slayer and the Pike.
Like they were itemizing for such a clean way
to end this game, like at this minute, Mark,
It should have been one wreck should be falling within the next five minutes. It didn't really happen. It did take them a couple ages more. But I think in theory, if they were to replay this game again with the same position, we would be looking at like a 35 minute win.
Congratulations, LGD. It was a bit of rough around the edges, but the concept, I don't think any team left in the playoff bracket has this level of like style of play, this level of aggression. Normally it's a bit more balanced.
even like BB, one of the more
aggressive teams in the in the
lower bracket now, they still
have like a tendency to like
want to reset the game a little
bit. Like there was no reset
here. It was just like full
send go. I mean, the fact that
we've had both of our series
today go to that game number
three. It shows that the top
four and our last four remaining
teams here are genuinely so close
in skill. There's a lot of back
and forth, but the fact that
they're digging so deep as well
to be bringing out old school
counters, even if Largo hasn't
necessarily been in the game for
so long, Quinn, you mentioned it
there. Sven was something that
was utilized against him in the
in the earlier parts of his popularity, and now we're seeing it again.
And you were just looking really good on Spen's full stop.
It's our second Spen that we've seen over the last three tournaments.
Yeah, I mean, it's not a hero we see very often,
but I think it's something that's very much within his wheelhouse.
I think he likes playing these more active heroes.
That's generally his play style.
And he also played plenty in melee heroes throughout his career.
And so I think it suits him.
I think it suited the game, and it's a very cool pick.
I will say, I think this is the way, if they want to win game three,
I think LG needs to keep this up.
In terms of they need weird stuff, they need to catch a roar off guard because I think if you walk into a draft
That's sort of known and not not that like you don't get they gotta gotcha to me. This bat rider is a gotcha
They're not going to fall for the axe switcheroo next game
So you'll need either a different switcheroo or you need to have something
Is favorable to you because the game on draft is not acceptable
And so you have to have something better than that
It does scare me though for ogd that like often their their wins are kind of walking down this tightrope of like one mistake
They just fall off it like the game one draft you could argue like they were trying to cook with the techies
They didn't work Gigi now this game is like they have the x-ax flex into like the multi layering of heroes
And of course you see back right of cooking here like this is the perfect storm like this fan is good because of the grim
I thought the storm did bad
Mm-hmm. You said it was the perfect storm. He's naming. Sorry. No, it's fine
I
Realized set myself up for that one. My bad. They're gonna get that on camera. There it is. There you go
It's perfect stuff. Yep. Well unlucky from the coda. Nat hates you
What?
That's what you just said.
Back to you, Nip.
No, wait.
I'm not standing for that.
I'm not.
I'm like, I hope there's, you know, anyway.
That's not what I said.
I just, I'm standing at a rough one.
And normally, Makoto is the shining light in a Aurora lineup.
I agree with you.
And I think he also had a rougher time than he should have.
I think this lane is hard.
Dung me wrong.
Storm is very bad against Viper in lane.
But I think he's slightly worse than he should have.
So much of what makes Viper oppressive in lane is the predator.
And like the lower they are, the more damage you do.
That speeds up really quickly, and so a big part of laning in Viper is taking really tiny trades
because you want the tangos running constantly, so you say as close to full as possible,
because if you're trading at full HP, then Viper doesn't actually trade that well versus you,
and he takes one really bad trade, and it screws his lane over, he's jungling a little too.
Like, that's a mistake. That's not Viper vs Storm, that is Makoto messing up and misplaying the lane,
which then, you know, LGD takes really good advantage of and snowballing the game really hard,
but it starts with Makoto messing up pretty significantly.
I just want to see more Grimstroke. Outside of all this axe speak and Sven and Viper having like Grimstroke, he kind of earned a position in kind of the meta in this tournament.
It's like, I felt like you can slot yourself in, but like with Emboos and all these kind of weird little hit mid heroes that are annoying and playmaker,
Soulbind is just like a great spell, the 15-tandent boss wall spell damage, still insanely good.
The bug in the early game, trying to just kill that. I felt like no hero wants to stand still and hit a bug, right?
It's just not a concept that anyone enjoys.
So I feel like Grimstroke, I'd like to see it more.
Maybe not forced early into a draft, but kind of complementing some picks down the line.
I feel like every event in every patch I always say the same thing.
Oh Grimstroke, you're so underrated.
Why don't people like him more? Grimstroke's so good.
Alright, look at what we have over there. It's been like seven slams. I probably...
It's also not just you.
Genuinely, it is not just you, but I do agree.
How are you guys feeling about Lago at the moment though?
Do you like him a little bit more?
Because it feels like it's Ebb and...
We don't know if it's going to make the noise.
Yeah well for you guys it feels like it's ebbing and flowing a little bit you're like oh yeah I actually don't mind him and now it's like I really dislike him.
On paper this game is meant to be very good with all the ability to dispel things but once the drafts continue going down this line I think how many strong lanes LGD had.
Lago doesn't want to play a game where he is like meant to be the strongest lane
He kind of wants to watch other people succeed and then he can swap behind them and go here you guys take a croak
I'm here like when everything's just an absolute shit storm Lago is never gonna look good. So Lago is okay
With winning lanes elsewhere Lago is absolutely horrendous if the whole drafts on fire, but we can't get rid of Lago
I'm not gonna let you talk about this quick
We can't get rid of Lago in game or in drafts and you're probably not gonna be able to get rid of the Lago song out of your head either
What's yours?
I've got the tunes.
Of course.
Hold my tongue.
Catchy lick.
That's just the thing.
Flick, let's make some noise.
Enjoy the show.
You don't like me.
You're the crazy bro.
Anyway, break out the bang.
Got just the tune.
Listen to this.
Like these are crazy, bro.
Anyway, strike out the bag.
Got just the tune.
Listen to this.
MUSIC
La-go and na-go and na-go and na-go.
La-go and na-go and na-go and na-go.
They were short-made with jammy.
Let's see what kind of tune this place is humming.
How about something like this?
Tell me what, move to the crew, just follow the beat, mate, you coppers!
Come on, get a wriggle on, poogie poogie!
I always knew you had it in you!
Alright, alright, we do this!
I'll go and I'll go, and I'll go, and I'll go, and I'll go, and I'll go, and I'll go!
Yeah, sing it with me, friends!
Oh, yeah!
One, two, three.
Let's do it!
One, two, three.
Hey, you can call me lots of things.
I'm a wizard on the strings.
Ooh, the rhythm really swings.
One, two, three.
Let's do it!
Oh, ho-ho!
Let's go, let's go.
And here's the percussion section.
Yeah!
I don't know about you guys, but that sounded pretty good.
I might need a round of applause for myself.
Do you have one or two?
20k net worth at minute 28, you are not allowed to be out of this.
I cannot be awful.
I'm very passionate.
Yeah.
No doubt about that.
Woo!
But the players that we have, they're like above 50%.
I think only slightly.
Slightly above 50%.
Yeah.
Because I think they're awesome, really good characters.
But there's also a realm which, like, is awfully nice.
But like, Charafine and Loner, like, they naturally generate gold.
A lot.
Once, like, if they go untouched in the early game, they will just pop off, right?
Yeah.
But I don't think you're letting it through.
You're more likely to shut down.
I will say, yes.
Personally, above 50%.
You think?
Okay.
There it is, we can lock it in the safe zone.
Lock it in the safe zone.
into a game number three here and rightfully so because both of these teams are individually
so skilled right now that drops at least on the LGD side getting better and better so it feels like
it's a poetic that we do go to a game three it's elimination as well and T so often at the beginning
of tournaments you alongside Quinn are so eager to bash the LGD drops to bash the Vypha of LGD
this time around kept it in the tournament it's because they have been out of the ship before
But they are absolutely cooking-ish this event, right?
You think it's halfway down the dish?
80%?
Yeah.
No, I think that right now, beforehand, it was like, it was honestly a 50-50.
You don't know what you're going to get, draft to draft.
But now they are moving more towards like the 60-40, where they can kind of create themselves
and present some pretty decent kind of like styles of play.
And the fact is, game one, not that good.
Game two, very different.
So we still are seeing the extremes of this team.
And I don't know if they ever will find a consistency in draft,
but I don't mind it if they can at least respect
the weaknesses of some of the drafts they'll give themselves.
Yeah, it's the kind of thing that the year is significantly
into it, right?
So I think it's the kind of point in the year
where you need to be either getting more consistent
with your drafts or you need to be playing really well.
Because drafting like this, it's just hard to win tournaments
this way, because you're drafting
against teams that are doing things over and over and over
Again, repetition builds excellence.
You get, you know, the little tiny things of how the game works
because you played so many games.
They're playing a different game every game.
And so it's hard to actually build that level of excellence.
I think it actually improved a level where you can win tournaments
or win tournaments consistently.
I think that's tough.
And so for LGD, I think it's, their style is almost at odds
with consistency.
And I think that's a risky way to play the game.
It's exciting, albeit I love watching their drafts.
I think that the funniest drafts and most entertaining drafts
at this tournament.
but at the same time, it bites them a lot.
Yeah, it really does.
I mean, that's the give and the take of the LGD.
Yeah, you get a little bit more excitement to watch,
but what is at the expense of when it comes
to these five players and coach?
Either way, like I said, it's pushed to a game at number three
and a draft.
Well, we get to see exactly how LGD
want to play this one out.
In
the game number 3, there's always looking towards the coin toss and then who gets priority
And what they want to pick up for themselves what we're seeing here is LGD get their hands on first pick
So it's gonna be the same as game number two in which they just won for themselves
And again, it is this story our roar just as happy to see that lone druid banned out from the first picked LGD
Even though the draft didn't necessarily play out to an advantageous position
I would like to also just put one final note on the Viper from the last game
I am really happy to see LGD
I think finally show us like the perfect example of why they would want Thailand to play this hero in
The idea of like when you respond to a hero when you shut down the lane like that
And I'm happy that conceptually like maybe in their drafts and their scrims in previous tournaments
This is the result they were getting it wasn't happening in like the officials
But to finally kind of see it all come into into play on land specifically
Maybe not in the online qualifiers is kind of cool and maybe there are other tech available that LGD can potentially show us
Well, seeing the opening picks from both teams here, LGD started off with a Bane, a Rora
responded with a Windranger, and that is because the axe is what gets banned out.
That's the only change up in bans between game 2 and 3 here, is Rora don't want that
axe in the pool anymore, and instead they swap out what was their Huskaban.
You know, they didn't even respond to Bane actually, they were spam clicking.
So the instant Bane got picked win or drew it got picked, there was no thought there.
They didn't even see it.
they were actually clicking the mouse over and over again like as a bit. So to me, do
you ever do that in drafts? Yeah, we did do that a few times. Sometimes you're really,
really confident in something and you do the spam clicking to like a certain dominance
like a little viny. Have you ever regretted it? No, I don't think so. I think when you're
in the feeling that you're like, we're sure of this, then you are pretty sure of it because
it's kind of stupid if you're not sure of it. No, yeah. I mean, also just snap sending
the draft times back to the opponent. It's like, normally you get like 15 second buffer
perfect to think about additional things so yeah I don't mind it. We've seen how
Nightfall is one of the few character players that still wants to play it in
that position and it can be an absolute menace. He went 22-0 and 11 I believe it
was yesterday up in game two against Falcons so he's been gugging on he's
been showing up I definitely don't think he is dissuaded at all by his recent
win-rage performances. Yeah and at least for LGD I think KG is still going to
hero that likes to play the map is really important. The way that he played Axe is probably the same
way we'll see him play the Bane, where it's kind of like you run through the enemy jungle,
you're just kind of being annoying, maybe not as early as what the Axe was doing, like minute
three four, but throughout the entire game you are a hero that always wants to use the Twin Gates,
run around, call for your team to make moves, and if Whisper or Tylong is playing one of these kind
of killer heroes that we're seeing more and more as the tournament progresses, it is of course going
It's going to be a very high priority hero for LGD and KJ.
Dude, what are these baddened bans?
It's the second game in a row.
Not only anyone has played the 0-5, and I'm pretty sure it's Winner and Jerkary.
So these bans, the last game, it felt super like a waste to me,
and this game also feels like a waste. I do not get this a baddened bans.
Yeah, I'm double checking the patch just to see if there anything was missing.
It's like 5 attack speed.
It's a higher increase in the health reduction from his innate,
It's not as if it's like, wow, that's gonna be straight back to Nightfall's first pick,
you know, territory of a hero.
Yeah, Mira also hasn't played 4-win in a single time.
I think it's only been carry mid when they picked it.
So it's ultra weird to me, but I guess it's just not like this.
Hasn't it also gone mid from Makoto?
Yeah, mid, mid carry, mid carry.
So there is still the element of maybe putting Aber onto Nightfall.
It's just they did it last game too when they hit Tiny Carry, and Tiny, they're not gonna
play mid.
So to me, it feels like, for some reason they're just scared of the hero and it's not
necessarily related to Bane because they banned it when they did that.
Is it just setting up for the Batrider? They're not wanting something that feels very reliable
against Elaso? That's very possible.
Especially in the safe lane?
It's possible to pre-ban. And I'm curious if Aurora is going to ban Batrider because
Whistler has kind of shown that he doesn't really care about much.
But wouldn't the draft just be really wonky though? Like if you're picking Windranger
into Abolite, sure, LGD, the Batrider, it's like, it is such a great combination. Like
I want to see it pretty much in every game.
Like any game I see LGD, if they are at the Breslin tournament,
I want to see it in their draft, if possible.
I want teams to be batting it out, like respect,
whispers bat, but still, I mean, if LGD are to win,
that is going to be a question.
Probably going to ask them.
Yeah, that's a weird one.
I mean, a role would be eliminated,
so they don't even have to hide anything, right?
It's maybe hopefully a team specific thing.
Largo, we've talked about it before.
It's good against Bane, you're good against both nightmare
and fiend script.
You have ways to deal with those spells.
At the same time, we've also talked about how we don't really, like, lago that much.
And lago. And lago.
That's the second time.
He's been very hair-miss.
Now, they do still have the option to pick the Storm or the Quapar hero to use whatever the third spell is called, Croco Genius.
Because I think that is a really big component of this hero. You need something to use that.
I think, at least with lago, at least, you're seeing a lack of lane killing.
There was a brief period, I think, early in the group stage, that lago was able to get a kill or two from the laning phase.
And fight in I think when did I just have the same reaction that then yeah, there's some whiplash happening on the panel right now. Luckily, you know
What what the okay?
Do you know if a focus fire persists on the venture eggs illusion from the main one don't believe so from memory?
But I'm pretty sure as soon as I go to lobby test it
It probably would both that way, but I don't think it should I feel like it does
You know, I'm gonna message someone who's on steam client right now. Okay, we'll get back by the end of this draft
I'll have notes for you. Okay. Yeah, I mean whether it does or doesn't this is a strange pick to me
I feel like it should be kind of batting its Largo because Venge is not the most high damage hero
And Laura has a lot of save and help you also paired it now with a Grimstroke
So you've got triple ranged heroes, which I don't like starting my draft that way generally
You want at least one melee hero, especially with Grimstroke
So yeah, it's it's weird and Venge also is not a hero that naturally wants to buy MKV at least not early. So I
I don't think it's particularly good against Winnered or Largo. It's a weird one to me.
What the heck is happening?
Have they like moved the drafter down like three seats?
And it's like someone else taking...
Just make sure it's the right drafters.
No, no, it is. It's still the prep people.
I mean, I also think A is really bad against Venge.
It's like a hero that literally respawns.
So bursting her with some A Blast, which is the hero's whole concept, right?
So I'm tanky here with this running in, you aile the guy and you kill a hero that's normally hard to kill
Well then sure, Venge is hard to kill, but she also respawns
If I hadn't seen LGD already pick both their supports, maybe part of me could have argued this whole
You would rather it on your team than against you when you're playing a lago
But they very clearly revealed two of their supports
So it's not like that was really ever an option for them
And then they heard what it fits, I feel like at least for Aurora
they are going to be going for that kind of pick off style of play. Let's ignore the venture now,
the next two picks be Talon and Muspel. You are going to like step up in front line and with three
range tiers of the venture, it does of course need to farm an axe to kind of get tankier.
There is a very clear early game window of just blowing up the offlane or mid due to the fact
they have any hoodwink. Like these two supports with anyone in the game can kill pretty much any
core. So actually it goes back for the Beastmaster and they needed some of these style of heroes
when you have three ranged heroes that don't like getting jumped pretty much. Again, then
when you have items you can deal with it. And it is in the early game that you need some
kind of glue to it and Beastmaster, be it from mid or off lane, they are buying the helm
of Dom. I think Ta-Rong even went helm of Overlord from the mid lane. That is something
that you can at least rally around.
Yeah, it's one of the best heroes in the game against AI for the same reason that stuff
like Lycan or Nidra's Profits, he just doesn't do anything to units. The hero doesn't really
have AoE, Ice Vortex doesn't really count. You can't kill these boards very easily. I
will say, I feel like part of the reason why they picked this AoE hero is, I mean, I talked
about it in this interview earlier, but I think they just think the hero is strong in lane.
He got a pretty significant buff on was the chilling touch, the cooldown significantly
lower. So I think they may just think the hero is boss in lane. And there have been periods
where AoE is just broken in lane because this range is so crazy. So maybe there's some more
of them. Shout out to Sheaver, she does, she does do that. And so maybe you can just hit
the boards down, but historically it's a bad matchup.
I've got an update for you, by the way. I was right in my assumption, when the Winner-Runner kills the Venge, and she becomes the clone, she loses the Focus Fire buff.
Okay.
Good to know. I'm assuming Aurora knows that, if they don't, they should probably figure that out, because it's important.
Just don't peel up here and disconnect them demo mode, mid-game.
Oh, shit.
Gotta gotta read the rulebook, ladies and gents.
Oh, just have some common sense. It's a rule 50-50.
I think the beast is probably offline because of the AAA I think it's solid and I think for
Tylong you're, I agree with Ty, you're also probably looking at another melee hero.
Another range against this would be a bit dicey, ideally something a bit floaty, something
with some mobility so that it's not as easy for AAA to blast you and it also just pairs
well with the supports.
I could see an Ember, Storm, any of these guys.
Not Storm.
I just said not Storm.
You don't like Storm?
She's got a little PTSD from the recent game.
I see.
I kind of think I want to see Beast to mid and then a new Offlaner for Whisper.
But in my head, I'm trying to think of like what's a what's a pipe buying off lane
that Whisper can can go for.
I think pipe might be just enough of a barrier to kind of get these heroes into the game.
And then Beast and Venge, they can scale really nicely together.
Like there's no real problems with scaling when you have these two heroes in the game.
Especially because of the advantage, the amount of right click she can do, the item path that she can go down.
It's more just like she needs time to get there.
Her farm speed with Specialist of Grey is a little clunkier than other carries, like it's no Sven, no SF, no Lone Druid.
You do need a bit of assistance getting there.
It's interesting to note that LGD's last two bands are split between a carry and a mid.
So there is still that element in their mind where they're thinking, not sure, 100% on why the wind range is going.
Yeah, they are both very sensible bands.
It's a great Ember game and a great PL game,
so I can see why they're scared of both those heroes.
And sometimes that's the play.
Sometimes your last band is just, OK,
what are just heroes that are good against our heroes?
And maybe we're not sure, right?
And so you split your options a little bit
and try to cover yourself from getting just hard counter
and see if no chance to play the game.
I mean, it's LGD.
You never know what they're going to pick really.
I'm thinking.
Pickedly and offline based.
If it's Offlane, it's like the beast could still go there based on seeing the AA, like you are going to lane quite nicely.
You can go for Helm of Dawn back for pipe if you want to, if you even want the pipe.
There's heroes like Underlord, that can be possible, even, you know, you wouldn't want Darkswing to lie, that's kind of cringe, but...
White, white, white.
Everyone in Earth.
Sure, so beast goes Offlane, Zeus goes mid. It is...
Quinn, say the line, say the line.
What's the line?
Congratulations Aurora, LGD picked a Zeus, you win.
Yeah, Tobi's back there.
But they also get the trophy, hold up.
Yeah, that's what happens when you pick a Zeus, it's a trap card.
Damn son.
I do hate Zeus.
I mean, okay, so it's cool with Grimstroke
because you double up all the spells.
I will say that is a sick combo.
It's a tie to carry, win range to mid.
Wow, this might be...
I mean, surely you got a lean LGD, just a little bit.
Like, I know their draft looks very clunky in the concepts, but I feel like the Beastmaster of Helm are dumb timing, the fact that Zeus is able to pretty much pressure AA Windranger and Hoodwink the entire game,
that alone will enable the vision to set up for Grim and Bane to hit, soulbind grip combos, Venge will be tanky enough that you can kind of just brush off certain damage.
I feel like LGD, even though it looks very weird with items and a clean early game, I think their draft will show why it's strong.
But there's all things. If you feed your early game, if you don't have a clean one like game 2, this could come falling apart so quickly.
A Zeus Avenger with no items, no Beesmoth to play on, you are just looking at a GG very quickly. So, a lot of pressure on their early game.
Yeah, I'm gonna be totally honest. I think about half the picks in this draft are completely absurd.
This is one of the most nonsensical drafts I've seen in a long time.
At the same time, I think somehow LGD have ended up, I agree, that they've ended up with heroes that are not that bad.
I think it's a pretty good Zeus game. I think Zeus Grim is really cool together now
I will say that I think there's a lot of burden on Beastmaster because he's the only man here in your draft
He's the only hero that really gets up in there
And so if he loses lane to tiny a then I think you've got some real big issues
I think it almost doesn't even matter how the other heroes doing lane this beast needs to needs to be off to a good start
And if he is then I think LGD can play the game. This could be genuinely a close one
Because I think it's it's sort of the battle of insanity
I don't know. It's somehow after all this. I look at the wind range and I'll be honest. That's the pig
I don't like just because it's going mid. I don't really enjoy the wind range in mid. I know it's Makoto
Yeah, come on brother. I know it's Makoto and maybe I'm putting a bit of disrespect on his name. You are?
You know maybe. No, no, no, I've just seen other wind range of mid not look too hot
And I think Makoto will like the embers the storms the pucks
They break open the game a little bit more efficiently than a wind ranger and that might give LGD the window
But again, I agree with Quinn like all these heroes feels like it's a bit of like a all-random type situation
But I actually I mean I like LGD's lineup. I can see the demolish. I can see the moves
I can see Quinn at green with me a hundred percent
Well, you have to pick a side because it's elimination LGD done easy take all in LGD because he's an SCG mid-hater
Zeus equals. I'm gonna stand by that. All right. So you're going all in for Aurora
So it's a split down the middle here 5050. That's the paneling. We need to bring the hype. Yep. That's it simple
I mean come on essay doda look at the heroes. There's damage. There's moves. There's hype. I like it
All right, well you guys are split here believing a little bit in Aurora one believing in LGD
Well, of course the geniuses behind the insanity you're talking about a standing by with rail
Hello, I am here with KP and caps and we're gonna have to settle this right here now
I don't give a shit about the details of the draft. I want to hear about why you have the best one right now
Cuz my heroes are cooler. They are cooler. You heard it here first and KP. What about you? Why is your draft much better than his?
Now here is a Woma. These guys are really bad at driving the hype. So I'll do it for you
We have a Zeus we just heard some shit talking on the panel. They said Zeus sucks. What do you have to say about that?
It is not right. It was a lost pick. It was the best pick is gonna win the game
I think yeah, they don't buy a pipe on any hero and we have some nice commas with Zeus with green stroke
We have a lot of vision and way to initiate the enemy. So I think it was the perfect last pick now KB
Water die moment is your team gonna buy a pipe?
Nah, all right. I think we know who the winner is here
I can't wait to get into the game and see how this plays out. Let's throw it to our castors
Captain fog not cap. I hate that guy
I'm sorry for those who are expecting to catch me.
I'm here with Fog.
And we're ready to go very shortly with this one.
What do you make of this?
We're getting, again, a pretty crazy draw from LGD in particular,
getting some different stuff coming in.
I don't know.
This looks nuts.
It's...
I'm looking forward to see how it goes down.
Tyler, you could do it on the snipe earlier.
Maybe you could do it on the Zeus.
We're going to find out.
We're getting into game three here between Aurora and LGD.
D. D.
Because I'm in game one right, the sniper came out last, we could kind of see what was
going on with that right, it was because of this match but the mid was.
What do you think it was about this game that made them want to lean towards the sniper
for Thailand. I'm sorry, for the Zeus for Thailand.
I don't know. I wish I had an answer. I guess it's just fast skirmishing. They're looking to
play super quick, looking to fight a lot here too. It does synergize with the Grimstroke really
nicely that they were saying. When you get the 15 talent also, it is insane damage that you start
doing. When you just pop ult, anything, that soul bind spell damage is huge. I am looking at them
just looking to play fast and skirmish heavy. They can take roast. They can't take objectives,
but Aurora's, it just does look more stable. It's just the question mark is for me, is
Is Largo going to look good? Is it going to look bad again?
Or is Mikoto going to look good?
Or is he going to look bad on the Windranger?
Those are the two question marks I have for the side of Aurora.
Yeah.
And I think, ultimately, the thing we could sort of take away
from that last game as well is that if Nightfall has a closer
game from the rest of his team, he will almost certainly carry
the game on his tiny right now.
He was having a tough sort of situation going on around him
in that game too, because everybody else was falling
so far behind.
But he was actually still able to have pretty good impact
even as they lost.
So if that game was anywhere closer for the tiny, for Nightfall, he's going to be one to watch.
And I don't know, I always just look so much more normal, and they have like spell amp, right?
They have this amplification also that comes from the AA.
We saw the other day what he was able to do, too.
Sure, he's not playing with like a storm spirit, where he's full-out amping the whole time with this ice vortex.
But K'Ori kind of owned this, and I'm wondering how the lane is going to be.
Because maybe this AA, the buffs that it's gotten, the lane is just super potent.
And a lot of the draft, I would say, from the side of LGD, if Whisper has a tough time,
I'm like online with what Quinn is saying if whispers a tough time
I don't know how they rally their draft together because it feels like the Beastmasters timing this as helmet dominer
Hinting the front liner is a lot of what allows their breast of their heroes to actually play and cast their
Yeah, he's the only one that can really go in there. Nobody else wants to go in first. That's for sure
Yeah, if you know maybe we'll be a bit of a sacrificial vengeance. We have seen it played like this, but
Yeah, we'll see this is definitely interesting and quite different, but that is where I'll give you look for that man
Oh, there we go
That's where they look their best.
Very good. Just straight spamming the spells.
Bursting down the Wim Ranger. Hey, that just happened. He literally just dope.
That is, I don't think I've seen a pre-1 minute first blood like that from a mid lane almost ever.
That was kind of crazy.
Instant level 2 gets the kill, got the bottle. Well, E is set up for success, that's for sure.
Yeah, he can just continue to try and spam Makoto out of the lane. I can't believe that just happened.
I was looking at Bobby. I'll be honest with you.
See if Makoto's able to sell things here.
I'm down a little bit and there's been a matchup.
Did he like go for a range creep and he got jumped with a level 2 half?
I missed it. I got it.
No, it was just kind of...
He's just gonna stand at the right of the corner.
Okay, yeah.
Running him down.
Well, that happens.
Makoto took a little bit more than he expected.
It shouldn't happen, but it did happen.
Makoto, see how he can re-establish things.
Now he's playing into a level 3 Zeus with a bottle already.
Wow, stuff in top.
Very close to getting in there.
That stick very fires.
That's right.
I did it some charges.
And it has the sound for the ready.
And the Largo pick, overall, right in this one, we see, I see more of a reason that they
get sure of this one.
He doesn't have a storm spare to kind of buff up or anything like that, but it is versus
this Dane.
It's been a traditional pick from a lot of these teams to counter it in the lane.
Can't really go for any sleep plays ever in the mid game also.
You have ways to cancel constantly.
So, you can see why they went for it again.
I'm still not sure how much I like it.
It's going to be kind of awesome.
I mean, in terms of region, right,
McCroth, there's the last tango, and he's just down to stick
charges.
He's going to have to get another tango sent out for him,
McCroth.
He doesn't buy bottle in this lane.
He tends to just go for the stats when he plays the win
ranger.
So it could hurt if Tyla is able to keep getting the
connections, but looks like he is reestablishing the lane.
Bottom, I am seeing Whisper have some difficulty.
I do- I do think this lane is designed to shut down this Beastmaster pretty hard.
And I think these AA buffs, I think we might see this hero picked more, even into non-healing lineups.
Because it does feel like it got some pretty significant buffs.
And I'm cut up.
Get in the last hits.
It's just a 17.
How many he is, like this is the thing, even though he's first blooded and...
Zeus has been sort of shoving the lane in against him, he-
Getting very good farm still spam is starting to come in from Theo and from whisper
Starting to put some pressure here on tonight while he has a salvo should be able to just reset his HP
Top lane also not the easiest here is received for you month only 12 last hits on him at the moment here
He's playing versus a very strong lane the Largo plus the hood link I
Think I've said this multiple times the lane that I love the most with Largo is the highest damage dealing for us
And this is the highest damage dealing for KJ especially with this sort of combo right the fact that you can keep him
In the frog stomp that extra little bit of time not enough to kill him
But still a lot of damage from these two when they get the bush work and the frog stomp out
Yeah, how do we get this? It is the highest at the bottom position. They're gonna be able to kill whisper off
Yeah, getting the point out to level three a lot of damage coming out for the tiny a a combo
So probably just get the stacks going top trying for the US
But he had the one charges still has a fairy fire and you must fall in love WS for trying to around the trees
He's asleep. Great sleep from KJ.
He was going to have another magic missile in a second, so if you can get the angle,
it's going to miss, so Yuma wants to try and close in for the stun.
It's got an acorn. They got to be a little careful how they chase now that Bushwax is coming back up.
If you bounce it between the two of them, you can't still get a kill.
Nice aggression coming out from KJ and Yuma does get the Bushwax.
He does!
Blood grenade coming out to that little extra burst during the stun, so he can't pop the stick as well.
Well, nicely done there for Mira.
I won't quite be able to kill King Jungle, but...
He's also gotta be very careful as he's only down to his last tango.
Low on the mana.
At bottom.
At nightfall, he's farming just fine down here.
Has the extra regen.
Kaori might get brought down here with another set of axes, does have stick and fairy.
I'm not sure who's gonna deal with the Boars.
Has another avalanche in a second too, so he's protecting Kaori.
Now Kaori's not gonna go down.
Raid drop just got picked up.
And if I deal a course in trouble, I guess this all comes in, we'll finish off the job to take Kory out.
Gonna keep diving with some axes, ideally they want to just keep pressuring Nightfall here.
Theo will just keep you back to base, pick up his boots, come back quickly.
And Mikoto, now at this point, he is just gonna find his expansion.
He's doing fine! Yeah, he really is. So despite the fact that on that early level, Tylen was able to get the first blood whisper.
He's running down on here? That's a big one there, Whisper.
Killing off the carry solo.
That's massive because of how rough the lane was going for him as well too.
Whisper, he didn't be able to walk in and get the bounty room too for his team.
See you again. Hit in the six.
Pretty ready to be done.
That's why they're being so aggressive forward there down bottom.
That's massive for Whisper. He needed that kill to be honest.
honest on the tiny here he was getting very slowed down he is still quite
slowed down but not only does he get the tiny he gets a massive wave it's like a
two and a half creep wave that he's got chasing into him and he's got jungle
creeps to build the farm as well too so he's got the preparation to be able to
catch right back up into this.
Top lane.
This should be okay Merit.
We'll have to back off for now.
He was starting to do a bunch better up in this top matchup too.
Nice stacks there from Theo.
This Catapult is still hitting Whisper, so it's giving him information. Just gonna fight.
30 seconds until the Zeus jump, and they can try and coordinate another move.
Perhaps around the shrine they could look to go for it here with that.
We'll have that timing.
They got him.
Jungle's just gonna look towards the wisdom.
He can't go for it.
The two of them start moving.
Not worth it.
Doesn't quite have anyone else coming in.
And even if they did bring someone Aurora or already
bringing the numbers, Mira was around.
OK, so look at that.
I mean, this doesn't say something, at least to me,
is that they give Whisper the shrine, too.
They don't give it to one of the supports.
So they're really looking to enable and boost
and forward in this early game since it was a bit of a rough start.
It really does get this kill.
All right.
Yeah, and he's got the Sage's Moss.
Yep.
The Clarites is ready to hit.
Just hit up the jungle.
Yep, farm for that.
Got to clear the stacks, maybe.
Farm for that Dominator to get it at a good timing.
It does feel very important for their lineup to have this at least in the early game.
Tyla is able to find a shield group.
What?
They bring the two supports, at least keep them around to make for a play against King
Jungles.
Let's see if we can get Yuma on top of that.
Bit far.
They're not happening.
Oh, he's at the factor in the Zusou too, so they don't want to overextend too hard if
that can come out here.
But Yuma very low HP here.
Supports rotating while stacking.
This time Aurora is stacking a lot more comparisons for that last time.
Look at the aim and everything. Look at the push white setup.
She's gonna get caught head. King jungle's quick with the Quilling Glein.
Power shot.
Steal the core in trouble.
Can we get the lick?
With the blood grenade, should be able to close the gap.
Let's take the four of them though.
Kicking down the support.
And Tyla does get the rune anyway, so walks his way bottom. We'll be able to secure that one.
Can we get a stack counter again? My goodness, sorry. I think we just put it up, but there is so many stacks
Already at this point so six to eight as it's this time Aurora is trying to match those stacks in comparison
Okay, Jay.
Well, I'm continuing from the Codes on Mera. They want to see if they can do something about this pain without focus fire
We'll be at three. Well, let's see if Makoto does the same build that we saw him do. Was it a special story?
I think we saw him do both times that he played this mid win ranger, I believe it was, so
So, if he does go for that one, or if he dvhs with his build.
Given Kairi the mid lane too, should be a pretty early level 6 on this ancient apparition.
So, they do have global to match versus that Thunder God's Wrath.
Yeah, I'm pretty good ways to set up, right?
All 4 heroes can absolutely look for plays and calls for an ice blast to come in.
They have good burst too if they're lined up across the board, right?
This AA blast is very likely to get a kill on pretty much anyone that it does connect on.
Whisper Dominator's finished. See how much they want to use this to pressure.
It's still at the easiest where sometimes you can just get Dominator you run at the safe lane and you take the tower
They do have a lot of a oe and a lot of damage on the side of a roar to clear it out
Both carries pretty happy with the space that they're now getting with these side things coming down a little bit
I mean all in all pretty even early game come it say we've always just seen a lot of tiny
Ventures here and there but a pretty rare carry
How is this matchup?
Is this something that they would have definitely thought about of what they'd like to play against a tiny carry at the moment?
But Tiny does feel a bit better overall. I think the Venge is still a little unexplored, so I can't say entirely.
Because I've seen the Venge versus the Doom, it looks very good. I just think when there's overwhelming damage, the Venge can feel weird with the first the Agnus.
Nip, faking out the setup.
King Jungle's able to get the Nightmare and with the Drag back, it brings Makoto over to the rest of the team.
Like overall as the Venge, you want to be playing fast and playing ahead. If you start falling too far behind as the Tiny, which you probably will just because of the farm speed, that's what it's a problem.
They get the Swap, they look to go aggressive onto Mira.
KJ? He's not.
Keep the pressure on the tower and Tylong. Kaya's done. Still top of the net worth. There's the mid Zeus.
He is having a hell of a game so far here. Arcane run also on him. They can't get rid of it.
Kodo looking top and he has cut up the array. So as we figured it is going to be that build.
It does have to be careful, except lots of damage coming in from this line up on Aurora.
And oh, yeah this stack it's ready to farm in Aurora
Hey, Ori's got a four-accident 6x stack coming together here. Who's getting to farm it?
Anyone who can mid hi look
Steps up pretty far
He's dead. That's a massive kill us lives. Do so not enough to kill him in return
You might just find this as a team because they don't really have the best ways to clear it
No, I just share the share the farm
Okay, Ori helps clear it pretty fast there with the vortexes as well too for Makoto
Given the majority of the last hits to enable that array timing
Yeah, but on the other side of the map, he'll obviously be able to deal with his on his own
Yeah, they can leave the they can leave the ancient stack for the tiny whatever nightfall wants to make his way over there
But nightfall doesn't want to leave this bottom lane just yet for us. He doesn't want to lose his tower
He's super happy down here
In the mid
Koto?
Seeing if they can get their hands on Makoto, but with the windrun, he's out.
Pretty even early game here on the numbers.
It's close.
Very very soft, so.
Whisper, Dominator Crypto.
Nice hole, we'll be able to claim that.
Whoop.
There we go, plus 100.
Power rune.
Trying to deny this away from Thailand, they'll get a really good one.
Oh, it's a nice one, yeah.
I can, the Cotso find a way to maybe get to Whisper.
Ideally he would like to, but he's shifting away.
They're checking out the stacks, blocking out the medium camp.
The stacks have already been farmed though.
So Whisper did get the timing ahead of them
to be able to do that here.
And now Nightfall is starting to shift his way toward top.
Perhaps also want to clear those engines soon.
Blasting mid, connection.
His tower is in jeopardy here.
This fortification and the good Thailand watching from the side knows who's off for 30 seconds
I'll feel heavy burst to throw out if he wants to look at cage. I hear he grips him under the under the ancients
Do they have enough damage? I think with the sleep. Oh no, I'm a coach coming out of those dead
The King jungles will use the grip to protect himself for now
But night falls ever to just walk up with a toss put a stop to the grip WS getting burst level dying. You know, he's in trouble
turns out gets taken out of here
That was a fight there for you and a show is facing.
That was weird.
A series of events and look the queue is potentially going to just like grip him under the ancients
and they try to do some type of you know, a zoo soul play, but ends up just sleeping.
They just easily walk over and connect the robot eyes.
That's a robot eyes.
You know, you're turning up and dying where...
You can't have that happen.
I mean, while there's counterpart, I've gone on the tiny, having a great time and very,
very close to having this blink dagger on top of the Echo Saber, those deaths hurt.
Hey, this is a hero.
I feel like you can't really slow down in momentum on the bench.
If you do slow it to slow it down, yeah, you can farm with Specialist, right?
But it's no way like a tiny.
And I don't think you scale anything like a tiny does either.
Yuma.
He has to be very careful with the next few moves.
Otherwise, he's just gonna get solo killed, right?
Like at some point, nightfall with the blink factor, probably just fine to be killed.
A lot of these heroes can kill him, right?
Yeah.
Any of these with, especially with an AA, any of these plus an AA?
Oh, 100%.
Probably kill the Venge.
You kill, yeah.
100%.
to find ways to take him down so Yuma can't afford to make these mistakes. No.
That's the top lane for now, I mean they are. I'm looking at him, Nightfall's got this,
he's got the blink pickup and it nearly catches Yuma by surprise. It's so early.
It'll be fine, far enough away. It's so early to have this blink pickup already versus such a
fragile lineup right the front line is literally just the beast master bench can be kind of tanking away, but I
Wonder if they will buy a pipe in this game. I know nobody's buying pipe if this is any indicator of one ever Zeus mid
Whisper his overlord is getting me a pretty decent timing. It has been slowed down
None of this is coming to hit the scan. So I shouldn't get caught
off guard might just shift the bottom and look for the kill down there yeah
they're gonna feel that LGD know where they are Rora so they'll have to switch
it up move towards the bottom running out time on the smoke so looks like LGD
will succeed in dodging might just have to settle for going for the
Dominator creep don't want to keep letting whisper get that extra farm here
and whisper how far away from it 20 gold you will have that item the overlord is
going to be finished
here we go
and how about the crazy thing
imagine what they get this overlord and we'll start to see them smoke on lgd's
side I would I would imagine so but maybe they do feel content with just
waiting for Yuma to farm but I would think that they want to try to accelerate
things
No, the Zeus is just a big question because you can't, Ty Lung, if he walks into a fight, he's just dead.
He has to just play away from the teamfights completely in this game.
They have some ways to save him, right?
There's a vent, ready?
True, but he could just get one shot.
He's a thousand, he can die that quickly.
Like a power shot and have a toss combo, he's dead.
Especially if there's a vortex on top of them too there.
So, his positioning, again, just like the sniper in this game, has to be pretty perfect.
At least he does, like you said. He does have Swap, so...
But yeah, he's gotta be so quick and ready with that Swap.
Oh yeah.
And either that or KJ has to be very prepared with the Nightmare saves.
Come on, let's find a little bit of gold here.
Money, money.
Let's see what the play is gonna be.
They don't have great start fights on the side of LGD either, unless you want to just
throw the Vengeance.
Yeah, and for Aurora they have multiple different ways to start fights.
They have Bushwax, they have the Toss Blink.
And as you feel like, if you're a Zeus and a Venge, you probably don't want to play a
scaling game against the Tiny and Wim range, right?
I would imagine so.
That's what I'm feeling.
Yeah.
Probably want to, I mean, maybe it's going to be around the 20-minute mark where they
list with the full Accelerate, go for Rosh, go for Tormentor, but Aurora can absolutely
fight in those areas and they have good ways to scout as well too so yeah you
can't have a feel that you know roar is gonna be feeling pretty comfortable with
the spot there holding the game in right now yeah we kind of think so I think
three okay maybe it's you might get eggs and then they just like for your
language right so that could be the case because they don't want you would have
fought too far behind and died before he has it
another creep we'll take it plus 250 get a lot of money I said these two lot
That's pretty much what for the end of minute. They just got 500 plus gold. Yep. Dakota is very close to BKB now
It's not that fun to the other call
Not safe to be in the lanes now. We'll not fall up and down the map with the spring dagger
Just way easier for a warrant to set up kills around the map. KJ
I have to find Mira here. We'll get to sleep. Might just sacrifice Mira here
Don't use the rules. It's been a game where the kills have started to slow down a bit for LGD
So we're gonna see the time. He's got the tree
And the power shot Symphony
I was close knife. I'll do it instant throw the tree
We have killed him. It would have been very close
Take a word of five lips. He does survive
Yeah, I'm the combo. He was super dead from the tree 205 with five armor
That's true, because how much is the right click? Yeah, he would have done it.
So, a little off there with the three throws.
Ram is dead for Nightfully.
Pretty good game on his time, despite the loss last game.
Yep.
But we'll miss out on a potential chance to kill the Zeus.
Okay, so double agonist timings. That'll be it for LGD, right?
And then, I imagine that's when they're going to really run at them.
Look to accelerate things, haven't we here?
They are very close to having it.
Aurora they will have BKB already finished on Makoto though for that fight, but there are spells of course the bypass swap fiends grip roar
And they do have the combo if they do get a good soul bind to double roar double fiends grip
And be pretty potent another over that's a lot of money money money
Gonna be careful with the micro. Yep
And now nightfall I believe that is his shadow blade coming out on the career to so can't look for these further pick offs
Shadow blade online nightfall continues to stay that step ahead this game is far. It's go time agonist revenge
It's a little ahead of his team
Backup was not anywhere close. He was horribly wrong for him. His team was smoking. They're preparing for this move
Now Aurora, counter smoking.
Oh, the King's on his life, he gets hands on Nightfall.
Nightfall, uh, having a very casually blink away there.
Well, the timing, uh, that...
That's a brutal theft from Whisperer.
Um, yeah, that's a... that's a Zeus show.
Yeah, their team literally just got the Ags on the Zeus,
the Ags on the Venge, they were smoking up, looking for a fight,
he gets caught first, and uses Roar.
Roar is looking to run in, Nightfall.
Does Wukongal imagine miss off?
Nightfall? Ah, he's... definitely dead.
I mean, Mclaren's coming for the Psychus,
a nice power shot down onto the support,
So feel the call will fall double kill from the coach right away. He's got grip
But he does keep you on the bottom side can't close the gap up to Makoto
I said he's getting a bit sloppy for both of you. He's getting a bit sloppy. All right
Makoto referring angle down here
Well, you know who's looking for who trying to see if he can get a cat she's got the swap back in a few seconds
And that was wild, he just kind of walked up, got completely blown up.
Whisper guy just walked up and broad and I got that his team weren't quite with him, and then back the other way, Nightfall says I'm leading the charge.
Doesn't realise that he's leading the charge right into our whole team waiting for him up the stairs.
Yeah, I think he was maybe split second and getting the blink dagger off to jump in, but he gets caught from a spell initially.
Hey Blast!
Ah, not gonna get the steal.
No, very close.
How much do you need to get the Tormentor?
Secured.
Charged here for the other cop.
14-9.
Wrap around, Whisper.
Mira knows exactly where he is.
Or by Whisper, step ahead this time.
Link's away.
His dinosaur, not as lucky.
Not as close to 250.
Is that a thousand or is that a 1250 now?
Kind of trying to keep track.
I'll put him, think of the purple one down on the bottom lane.
I think it is. It's close to 1,000.
Yeah, maybe more.
Quite a bit.
Nightfall.
Looking to accelerate toward that BKV next.
It is a lot of magic damages we are seeing coming out from the side of little GD.
Yeah, I mean, the grip pretty much has to come out on him and my coach every time, right?
Yep, yep, yep. But they can't get the double, right?
So there is the potential that they can't get them both.
Very difficult.
KJ he did use Bobbeck in this fight so if he does go down he'll be dead for quite some time
And Roche probably the thing that LGD wants to set up for next get a kill and go straight into that Roche
Because they will kill it super fast with this lineup
The ears of her. Do you know that the combo with the soulmind if you act on Bane
Does it make like they're like four illusions and then you'd have to kill all four illusions to stop both of the grips?
I know they're either separate instances of illusions for the grips
so the two on one side
They would stop that one and pretty sure
So is that not continue the grip on the other one? You see what I'm saying? Yeah
I'm not too sure. I'll see if we get there. I'll see if we do get that
I don't think I've actually seen that happen at the double grip with the eggs. It's very
Grim and Bane highly likely happen this camera because he's obviously gonna go for the good into the agonies on King Jungles
If he can get to an agonies, I mean that that'll be amazing for the team
It's just that's the question if they're gonna get to that point because I do feel like they are a bit of a timer here
But we all have to say because they are making it happen right now. They have the double aggs here looking for the fights around this potential Roche here
They do see Kailhrae
I gotta rest my ears as well first. So what's someone LGD can do if they can get the kill, maybe
Just say move into the rush. Oh the centaur pretty just gets bored
Click an easy kill
Still in the stack as well.
Yeah, I can't know if there's a little stack that they had going.
I thought they would go immediately into the rush pit because they get the AA kill, but
perhaps feeling a little scared of just going for it there because they do have good ways
to spam into the pit.
Yeah, you never know if there's going to be the chance for some sort of buyback.
Ice cost, somebody jumping you in the pit.
And just the power shot.
They do have a lot of ways to just throw spells into there too, so.
WS, just farming it up here on this Largo.
Not the same exact build that he did last time and for a good merit, for a good reason.
the Lotus in this game. Super good. Versus the roar, versus the grip. Even versus the
bench. Kind of versus all three since they have so much single targets.
Yeah, Lotus is huge in this game.
So if he's able to get that, it's pretty massive so you can apply it to two different
people.
They're going to have a few Lotus, right? They're going to buy two of them.
Well, he has to, right? He gets shard, and then he has to, in a way.
True.
Yeah, he's going to have two, and then, you know, mirror.
Mirror, look at what I won.
Yeah, it's, I mean, it's probably one of the best Lotus Orb games I've seen when there's
not a Batrider in the game.
And Karori will take it upon himself to be the one to buy the pipe.
Obviously he's going to take one time.
Ah, look at that!
But he will, uh, will look to...
...tream about getting the Pipong line.
I mean, eventually, right? You look at it, there's a Zeus core.
It's a... It's a...
It's got a feel for it.
Yeah, it doesn't really matter how long it takes to come online.
If the game's still going, having that warret is absolutely going to reduce a lot of damage.
Kaori does get the four staff off during the Lord pretty much.
Gets the disengage here.
Oh, there's another plus 250!
Money, money.
He looks correct.
I'm just focused firing it.
Just get that easy money.
It's gotten so much gold for this.
It's adding up.
It really is.
14 to 10.
1K lead at the moment for the side of LGD.
Tylen still only with that one death, too.
They need to have minimal deaths on their heroes.
Aurora smoking up.
EKBs are ready.
Nightfall.
It's a strong time to go.
You get the nightfall.
Yeah.
And I believe that is the Lotus also for WS.
A triple four timing.
These are some big pickups here for Aurora.
As long as he's gonna be ready for it, he's gonna look to try and move right in front of Tospo, but there's gonna be the SWAT coming for you, but it's a straight into a shackle!
There's both the notices out there.
Not the VKBs trying to get the phantoms embraced off him, Nightfall.
Now Tospo and Corey straight on top of you, but Corey's now pretty deep. It's enough to get you, but the once...
Can't really get him the second time here, though. You must still go to fight here with the Aghanims.
Makoto's VKBs soon to come to an end. He's gotta run!
I'm going to start out on the 9th floor.
Shackle.
And hold back him up with the Roars of Death's Repair.
He's dead, Tylon.
Move to the middle of the ball, but 9th floor's ready to just turn.
With the right click, take Tylon out.
He jumped in.
A magic missile's back up again from him, but the 9th floor's got the Invis.
The three cores are alive.
He's considering jumping back in here, 9th floor.
WS is cleaning up.
He's running for whisper.
9th floor.
Swap.
He's going to get swapped.
He acts as miss.
He's gonna be perfectly fine
The Berserker is not
WS, still alive here
They wanted to respawn in 5 seconds
Yeah, wait, silly respawns
He's gonna wait, and now
Okay, nevermind, nevermind
We'll let him live, we can't go up there to the high ground
Tyla jumped in it
He literally jumped into next to the tiny
And he got a lot of damage off
And they did nearly kill Nightfall
But he does die
Trying to full line there as well
It was looking pretty solid for the win because Thailand was able to sit in the back line and just get all the spam out
They're able to reset but then Aurora just doing the better job around the Largo
The Lotus R2 you can see Whippers having a difficult time trying to choose
They run on force to stop Corey there in a knife was like Corey get in there
Yeah, I froze him in and straight over towards the back lines does get his spells off to be fair of course dies
Time I got to use his whole man up all though
That's why it looks so good at the start of things
but then a bit of an overchase here coming up from LGD, just good resetting and the Largo heals.
This was definitely a Largo but teamfight.
Yeah man, the Ags obviously been alive for Yuma, giving him this good chance to still fight on just by the first team initially.
Such a good Lotus.
And yeah, Tylon getting a little too close for comfort there next to the Tiny, and not quite able to kill Nightfall.
AWS truly carrying the fight, right? The Lotus, the first one, the second one as well, just the heal that he was able to provide.
Really nice play from the long ago this time around.
Nightfall doesn't get hit by the axes there to and survives really good kiting and distancing from them
Now those LGD's fight they will obviously want to win at this point in the big game fire
But it was an Aurora triple core timing that they did get right before it
There's a little bit of a pause. I mean, I get to rub my ears as well to my
These the ears man of my ears so here is out. Thank you very much
And with that fight ruin, it was all the cores that survive on the side of Aurora.
So looking for next item, big pickups, right?
The Lincolns soon kind of come up for Mikoto.
And Nyfo now does have the small crit.
Yuma houses it close to the Mantra.
It does almost have it finished up.
Does need a couple more items though.
So that's where the advantage hits the big timings here, but it is starting to fall pretty
far behind when you look at this core matchup.
4,000 behind Nyfo now.
Yeah, that says quite the gap.
Tylong almost has a fresher, so he does still have a pretty big timing for the next fight
too if he can get all the spells off like he did this last time.
And the burst combo is pretty insane.
But his positioning, if his positioning gets compromised at all, the fight is essentially
just over.
Yeah, they have to have this Zeus alive and just pummeling out damage for the entire team
fight to have.
Any sort of chance of really killing here is like this Tyning.
How close is Theo to 15?
He's 13.
I mean, there are other timings that can't come into play here, that 15-talent is insane, Luzus.
Like you said, yeah, Lotus for Mira, Lincoln's about to be finished from a Kono, they have double Lotus from the Largo.
And he's just going to Lincoln's too, they're recognizing it's a lot of single targets.
Yeah, but Lotus is in the Lincolns, just a perfect answer to what OGD have for the Straf.
Karrick's still pretty far away, but he is starting to get the Greedy's online as we do love to see these neutrals of course, so he'll be able to accelerate the timing of that pipe.
And when pipe comes out, that's when it adds to the big questions that are going to be there really for the side of LGD. Where's the damage going to be?
That's the thing, the timing is just looking a bit more clear from Aurora as opposed to LGD. LGD, they've got to come in with some crazy plays.
He's got to keep running, Adam. You get the board.
Find Aurora on the WS.
Is there follow-up?
There's good stuff in control, but he's running away!
No way. No way he gets down.
He ran out of mana on the Zeus. Didn't have the secondary ult.
Ooh, that's a pretty big deal there.
Gotta look to go for the Roche, but this is without getting a kill.
Oh, this is just dangerous.
They're gonna get bullied out of this pit very likely.
They see the Roars heading straight over.
They have a ward already. They saw them walking in. They can't go for this Roche.
Careful.
I'm worried they'd like to find a kill first, but kind of getting a good angle here.
Try and take out at least one of Humor's lives.
That is what he wants.
That was the Thunder God's wrath used for the vision.
That's mean he doesn't have it for the fight.
I'm supposed to try and get the wrap round so they can find some sort of fiend's grip
sub and they're still on cooldown for 50 seconds though so can't get the combo.
Difficult to get the angle.
There's just lakens and lotuses everywhere.
And they can go for a swap but they have to be careful on who they choose because killing these targets is so hard.
They've got to step up, you're caught in the initial stun, but gets the chance to put the BKB.
Defensive BKB though, swapped in, swapped into Grip.
Do they have damage off? They're gonna try.
Life is good.
Life is good.
He's gonna get the toss off and he's running away, they can't win the lift.
Damage is not quite there for LGV and King Jungle's, shot down by Makoto.
And Yuma, he's coming back to life, but they're starting to be pretty unhealthy, less than half HP on everybody here.
Maybe they have some stun and some control, but the damage is just not coming out fast enough to threaten these kills.
I can't believe Nightfall survives there as well, so first it's WS that lives, then it's Nightfall, just unable to sequence their spells, not having to double ulties.
Tylong is hewing up the rape here.
Wait, who was it? We looked up a game, right?
There was a... Was it Tylong?
No, it's an SA qualifier game that the team with the Zeus with Triple Rapier lost the game.
Oh, that was the other team.
That was the other team that we lost versus Kynos.
There were some replays, some of these qualifiers where some Zeus had Triple Rapiers and was sitting in the base.
That might be the way they come back into this game.
Yeah, maybe. I mean, Nightfall, they get a pretty decent duration grip, but they do get the Lotus, the Reflex, to come out and protect it.
And yeah, all the little things coming into play to save his life.
His constant Lotus spams are such an annoyance for LGD.
Lotus and Lincoln's very good versus these single targets.
And they have time-lapse overall, right?
He needs to have the mana to be able to use the double combo.
Because if they have the double combo in the initial, they kill WS.
If they have it afterwards too, they probably kill the tiny.
So, needs to make sure he has the mana for both.
Not easy on Azus though at this point.
And this would be high 50, though.
He probably will go...
I think he kind of has to also.
They just don't have the damage. This is not killing these heroes.
It's not like the vengeance damage output is gonna step up significantly anytime soon. You know humor
He needs like that the full NKB the dragon last the level 20
That's still a while away and how much spell out did they have in full right when you have the 25%
On the Grimstruck when you have kaya when you have neutral item, etc, right? You're gonna be over 60%
Are there any more spell out mechanics that they can do?
No, it's just a as you said the isomization in the soul blind. There's nothing else. Yeah, that's it
That still adds up.
And timeless.
Yeah, of course it'll be neutral.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, getting the right neutral.
So...
Another Lotus.
It's gonna be pretty impressive at the first.
It is.
But might likely have to come from kind of just the ults alone.
I don't know if he's gonna want to...
I guess with one rape you can afford to leave the fountain.
It's dangerous.
I mean, it could just be GG instantly if you get caught.
We'll get taken out here.
Sleep.
Oh, they've got the nightmare.
Do they want to kill it?
No, they can't.
They do
It's a raw returning
Early buyback when an unnecessary one unless they can turn it into more they're trying with the zoos all provision
Okay, I guess they really don't want to give up the rose shot
He's only dead for 38 seconds
If Theo dies brutal for them to they need his combo. He's about to hit 15 also on this grim stroke
Every little bit of extra damage they could get.
Aurora, you can patiently wait around this rush pit, nightfall close to that next big
damage item.
Mikado, he has the crit now too.
Their damage continues to increase drastically in the physical component.
Well, it's really just magical on the side of the health GD.
And there will be that pipe, you know, out of all ways, it all fits.
It's about, it's about a thousand gold, it's going to be online for Korori.
Juma is pretty much the only physical damage.
And not quite there with the bilges.
So plenty of time needed.
Falling behind on the farm.
5k difference.
Coming up to that between him and Nightfall.
Ice blast bottom.
Nightfall.
Let's find the brawl.
And he's pretty alone here, Nightfall.
And what the BKB?
Right after this, he's coming up with some pretty good body blocks.
This is going to be a huge kill.
I mean, when he's left to the left, he's isolated.
It is a blast I guess to try to set up for whisper, but then he just goes for the ancient creep. You got baited
It's a lot of sloppy plays. Oh, I see why I see that's bad. I would blame you as well
It's not what's my support doing. Why is it better me with the ice bar? That's massive for a G
That's enough for that for a minute. You must get the time to catch back up at farm and I mean the roasts on the top side
So it's hard for them to start. Yeah, I don't think they can get a rush
I think it's still a bit scary with the four of them. Sure. There's no nightfall
But the fact that you've got Makoto still in the game essentially a secondary carry
Yep, I'm playing this mid-wing ranger and scaling as he is and you know, it's a bit too much
Don't hit the tier 2 bottom. He does hit the 20 towers
So one of the big amplifiers especially if you're playing versus tiny. Yeah, steal that damage can't be pretty nice
Still need to know how much that's what was the mass like how much you get from him if you're the way to tear on him like a hundred fifty
About a hundred hundred fifty or so
It's going to be a nice little bonus there, and he's fighting him if he can get back.
Angle especially gets the multi-hero connection.
How's the rapier looking?
I think he's got it right.
I believe so.
Oh, he bought a BKB.
Disappointment all round.
Hey, they've re-established things.
Indeed, Talon's like, hey, you know what, we don't have to go too crazy.
We might see the rapiers down the line.
I think we will, because I think the game's going to start falling tough again for them,
even though they've managed to stabilize it for now.
That was a situation right when nightfall was completely on his own any other case
It's still gonna be tough by LGD in these fights. So don't worry divine break your enjoyers
We might still get one still a high chance, but yeah, he can't be on Thailand
It's gonna feel a bit safe from the front of these fights Roche is gonna start shifting down towards bottom
So for LGD that positioning is really nice for them whisper also has AC finished for this next fight to a couple moments ago
How's you miss MKB looking to he's getting he's getting close there versus the windrunner to push
Yeah, versus that Windranger.
Super effective. Another Lincoln's, I believe, was picked up now here to a WS.
How many they got?
Well, how do you want to call it?
They have like four, five essentially kind of in a way with a lot of-
A lot of ways to play against these single target spells which are pretty much, you know, the core parts of all of LGD's heroes.
I'm really surprised how LGD's keeping it like this though. Just getting these good timings, getting these good fights.
The pipe is now there, let's see what difference it makes, and let's see what it looks like in a 5v5 without Naifo getting far.
As a result of Scout things out, they know this play is coming for them.
They're gonna be full health though, so it is just a scouting ult.
We're looking to jump.
Here, I'll give you the ward.
be set for whisper they want to fight back they'll look to nightfall enforce the safety
you must try to chase nightfall take it out damage to bring him down with the buybacks
coming into play they'll have to push on for more LGD they want more than just the one kill
with his flyback ws going down to about half hp trying to heal up in the pit linkin the
smoke up jump forward aggressively here with the grip stroke the front course is in onto
ws then take it down the frog the corner turns where the bkb though most of what the drop was on
They use the feed script!
They put the lock down onto Mikono!
You must cut the damage!
They bring Mikono down!
They're gonna get Kory as well!
What a buyback!
The double buyback coming in clutch there from LGD!
They're throwing bodies into in these fights and it's working.
Nightfall gets blocked out, they get a guard by Extric.
Who gets the last hit on a lot of money?
It's KJ, but saving the grip that long.
Yeah, they'll easily be able to offset the cost of those buybacks.
Get the kills that they did.
Oh, that was a close fight.
They come in with that move and now this roadshad is gonna be theirs!
And the damage to Zeus, that Tylun did not get brought down. He just ends up using his entire mana pool.
I'll throw onto everybody there.
That is a great jump onto the turret from Nightfall.
But an instant buyback from King Jungle wanted to get back into the fight.
He had a chance to use his crit and the Sanry was set for Whisper.
Now the S-Kona with this buyback, which goes straight away with the roar, gets it onto Mikoto,
which very nicely forces Nightfall out to the side where he's completely stuck.
And if this worked without Nightfall, it does start to fall apart a little bit.
They're able to focus WS, push him off to the side, and if they can eliminate Knife or eliminate the damage, eliminate WS, eliminate the sustain, the fight can fall in their favor, LGD.
I really like Dio's Blink there. It's super aggressive, it's pretty dangerous, but he gets the silence on WS to stop this extra healing that was coming out, and then here. This is just perfect.
Perfect. If you have that grip there, I potentially could have killed two more heroes.
Perfect timing for them there.
Huge fight for LGD. Massive buybacks now.
Having the Aegis on Whisper for the next movie.
Very close to having the gold to start working seriously towards the refresher.
LGD, right? Whenever they're playing their own style, they just look their best.
And yeah, with the Zeus, which a lot of people, with quite question marks about,
Tynelung is still able to do it.
He's coming together. He's only died for twice this game.
In a game where there's a lot of threats that can look for him
He ends up to he just survives a lot of that fight in particular
He gets to use an entire mana pool every single spell doesn't get caught and you was gonna hurt now
How's the MKB done? Yep, ready to start buying into the next time after that
Hydra breath is gonna do a lot versus the tanky course. I thought that was not looking that tank
Aurora even with these Lincoln's lotuses etc even with the pipe there the damage was significant
Pretty ideal place also for LGD to fight. It did cost the Vibex as well. True
But it was a clustered area where they get this
Nimbus blocking off the exit that roar as you said kind of knocking them and pushing them to it's really well executed
This game is delivering
Gotta say I did not anticipate that it would get to this point with LGD still looking so close in it
But they are bringing the fight
Refresher, soon done for Whisper too, and now that Aghanims, it is done for KJ.
We will perhaps get to see that interaction.
I'm looking so clear cut for Aurora by any means, LGD.
Taking this line up work.
Tylong getting closer and closer toward level 25 too.
Then he's very hard to bring down, he's got 6 jumps essentially if you want to play with it like that.
If he does want to go for that.
Which I have seen more and more of the people take.
It's very good offensively and defensively.
If you're able to keep sort of the distance after the initial jump from the tiny,
certainly allowing to turn and just burst the damage back out, especially with the BKBs.
Going down to the 7 second duration.
So let's see how aggressive LGD wants to be here.
Ideally probably wanting to utilize his Aegis somehow,
And for Aurora, do they want to just dodge?
Do they want to just fight straight up into it?
Let's see how confident they can feel also.
Because if they want to just wait for the Aegis to go down,
then they kill, and there's not going to be those buybacks
potentially.
So see what they do want to do here.
Dragon will scout out four heroes.
It's stormy time.
You can go to the tier two top, at least, and return
here, if they want to.
Pressure aim put on by Whisper.
Oh, and Tylong is prepping for the late game too.
So we're saying, maybe not having that type of skill,
and he's got the bobble with Timeless.
You could just infinitely bobble that up.
That's when you do that.
I'm thinking now that he's got the kind of the core arms
all done, now he can start dreaming and building
towards those divine reviews, right?
What else does he want to buy?
Now he can start.
If they can get a swap onto one of the corners
outside of the base too, they can't just go,
Excuse me, just toss the Ori outside.
Careful.
I'll be time to turn off allied help, you know.
If you're around this tiny...
I'm never gonna be too sure when a toss goes the wrong way.
Sometimes it happens.
Mirra?
Tylong's looking for him.
Fourth provision.
Should be okay.
Doesn't want to refresh for this.
Split up now, on the side of LGD.
Yeah, but that might cause Aurora to feel a false sense of safety and head into them.
They pop the pipe, they pop the Lincoln's Lotus, they're running in the A.A. for information.
Hard to read going in when he's got all of these buffs upon him.
They don't just want to walk into this A.A. just still at this moment.
Even though they saw them get split up there.
I want to go for the chase forward here.
Be careful into this.
Okay, Nekfo now at this point, he's falling behind.
He's actually almost behind the bench too, so Yuma...
It's a great job here. Yeah, that whole sort of snar around the Roshan just gave humor a massive jump back up
A couple of those deaths of nightfall are walking up into the high ground blind
Did hurt him here in his progression. He just is reclaimed. They're gonna smoke with it to reset positioning
And how long on their buybacks it will be about a hundred seconds or so till those do come back up
I'm starting to inch their way out, we've got vision here, let's see how hard they want
to go, he wants to jump in.
He's going out of the situation, Lotus and Lincoln's pretty much impossible to find
a swap setup.
Very difficult to go for that play there.
This game is tense. Super close.
Spoke up, Aurora, looking for an angle.
What do they find? If they find humor,
he's still a bit annoying to deal with because of the axe.
They want the supports. They'll find them.
Okay, they'll find them.
King jungle's gone.
That's what they have a tree there. Okay, now he does.
It's a little weird.
We're trying to go again right yep taking out one second. It's a lot of time
Maybe reclaim the positioning for a like a word here. WS will be able to back up pick up his agonies also so big gain for him
Let's not they're not scared though, GD even with the fourth and staying deep on the rules half of the map
I think when they all start to back up they are going to start to be a bit more careful
here.
They do need all of their numbers.
So we can see in that last fight, we can do some buybacks.
Nice fall.
Walk forward reclaiming.
They saw Tylong.
They do have a pretty sneaky ward that Kaori had placed earlier.
He's primary target number one.
He's dishing out the most damage in the game by far here.
Oh, that's a big kill.
Let's see if we can get him the twice. They'll definitely get him the once.
We'll deal with the illusion.
Nightfall has the bush whack to lock him down.
Getting backup coming in.
And they'll kill it off. So Yuma out the game for 90.
Good smoke hit.
Double 24 on the Largo. Getting closer and closer towards 25.
Nightfall has his. Beastmaster has his as well.
What does Whisper want to go for here? Let's see which talent it is.
Time to push. Looks like Thylian is sticking with the sensible items for now. Has the axe blessing into the e-blade, Judah?
I think that rapier was just like a reaction to kind of what was happening, right?
Then he's like, oh, we've re-stabilized him.
Yeah, he's a rapier again.
For sure.
Yeah, now they feel pretty good again about the game, so he takes that on. Okay, no axes cooldown.
They can sweep around towards the bottom, still 40 seconds without the creeps, but can still get the 2-1, of course.
People are holding onto a good amount of gold here for these buybacks.
5,000 on windranger, 4,000 on Venge, 3600 on beast.
Very much 7 heroes having buyback at the ready for the next fight.
Let's see, numbers are very important.
For Nightfall I would say for him what's important is holding on to the BKB, because
I think in that last fight when he did end up dying, he did use it super early on the
initial jump, so for him he does need to hang on to it a little bit longer, especially first
of that Zeus magical.
Back up to a 6k lead now for the side of Aurora, Yuma will respawn by the full BKB, can't
blame him after that jump. LGD perhaps smoking and looking for a fight themselves.
Nothing you do right, you've got all the ults at the ready.
Yeah, take a fight on your own terms.
You don't really want to get jumped first by the tiny.
No.
Make sure Tylung is all the way in the back line too.
Whoa.
Get them some good info and straight away they're out of King Jungles!
Hits the Zeus as well.
If you get something more from this...
Information.
We're back off, King Jungle's holding on to the flyback for now, and they jump in with a brawl on the two of them!
But it is going to get reflected, Wisple! Get the BKB up, punch for refresh, your second brawl on the WS is he'll run away!
That's a lot used there from Wisple, and they have healing so they can back up and reset.
Nightfall did use BKB, so did Mikoto, very split fight.
Full retreat from LGD, they're not going to look to try and push into that now, they've just got a full back wait for those cooldowns to come up as it doesn't go the way they would have hoped there.
Thankfully for them, Tylung did not use his refresher, but Whisper...
He tried to take advantage of the situation, but Makoto went into the same time, so they just took this full split fight, but there was no follow-up for either.
But Aurora, they'll look to fight now.
Oh, they wanna go now.
Yeah, no Roars.
Can't quite get a catch.
25 soon coming out from Makoto, as it's 7,000 gold on him.
Can use to grow in that damage potential here.
Waiting for the rush. It's super fast spawned. Yuma.
Cool mother of the line, man. They walked out of the pit, literally has it spawned on.
They went in, backed out, checked, and it spawned literally right afterwards, so. Throw a nice
Fortex in. Is he gonna... they're gonna check it again.
They're prepared for the fight instead. They have this ward on the high ground.
above no now with the way of the terror coming in from Yuma
he's using courier to kind of bait here
also to buy his disperser on Makoto
it does look like he is keeping it in the area
another ice blast to get vision to counter whispers
straight away they're going to be faster with a full combo
another toss they're caught and whispers out
he's got buyback available we'll see if he considers it
they're resetting again
we'll try for the top of the load once he's there
You may be trying to lead forward, has pretty decent damage...
But WS again is compelled with the amount of heals and sustained.
Now, as the BKB-
The BKB is coming to a Nimbus Force!
He got the combo and a homicide!
The SAAA will be reflected!
There's the FIsKRX!
There's the 2 FISKRX!
Cuddle and a lusion!
For the Big Kords!
The combo says they take Nimbus Force out!
The Kordo is in trouble!
Helpful!
What a combo!
The 2 main corps, they get it on...
Somehow through the lotuses at Lincolns.
I think it's pretty much just in these five-strikes. Everybody's trying every spell out to just try and get through these Lincoln spheres and set up to find that sort of a grab.
Again, with the bodies, they use a whisper buyback to jump in for there. And we did get to see those six or four loses, whatever the hell it was.
It was actually with four lose again.
It was 400%. How did he get the catch? I guess they didn't have it because WS had used it on himself to protect him, so it's on cooldown as they go for the secondary jump.
I'm just gonna say, you know, the other core able to throw the solo vine short, it gets reflected, but it does the job.
Aw, look at the cage, oh, and you know what also happened here?
KJ had to get his table reflected so he had to come super close range to even cast it, because he had to have minimal cast range.
But he does get the connection on the two main cores.
That's big stuff there, that's insane. The solo vine, fiend's grip.
That's what they drafted for, finding the chance to get that combo out.
Again, it's hard to deal with if you can get it through the linkers of the Lotus is
difficult to stop
Excuse me saying that they're able to do that there
And now whisper he did have to use buyback as ages they're pushing forward again here not going to be able to force the buybacks
Get some damage done. No 20 seconds here without McCutchey
1994 he's coming back up as well
You're not back in the game and eyes on these fiends good somebody's got to stop it on the side of Aurora
They cannot have that happen again. Not under two quarters
They're responding. They a blast
We'll hit on the bench
Just kind of one shot him. I'm quite deal with the illusion though
And they do want to try and back off and then get back on the illusion again
The Enfeeble is hitting KJ every single time he keeps reflecting it on himself
So that cast range it becomes very short for that fiend's grip
go back up reset Yuma can still farm of course as this illusion this game
continues to be very very close and the bubble will kick in so about 10 more
minutes of course but we'll start to kick in to whisper buying the Lincoln's of
his own to stop the reflective roars perhaps any type of little thing that
he can do protect himself also differs in the focus fire so as multiple
different usages. This execution still has to be sent with these fiend scripts.
Aurora. Again looking for an angle. WS also we just have to mention, he did also take
the bobble too, but they do have three on the side of LG Dave. A blast is coming in,
They can get the scan.
Oh, this one could burn.
This is a nice air.
Oh, my god.
Oh, it's a bit too slow now.
You should know it's coming too.
They can get this engage from me.
Woo-hoo-hoo.
I can't remember.
I'm too early.
I might have been a quite disruptive.
A potential double kill if he does hit it.
Yeah.
Super close.
15 seconds cooldown on the ulti.
This game does feel like it's as crazy as it's a lot of just expel casting now even
though these two these physical damage cores earn a great position on the side of Aurora
just a mixed damage is working from the side of LGD as this game progresses even at the
pipe.
LGD stepping out and Aurora's not too far from them and Miska's got to be careful with
the fact that his buyback's unavailable.
Two minutes on the same stage.
pretty crucial plot of buying back getting these rolls off.
Arcade rune for them.
Gonna smoke.
Got one.
Coming in from a good angle, they might not expect this.
Aurora, I felt you, dear, able to head straight through the jungle.
Trying to use this Aegis as well, too.
Trying to catch them off guard.
Trying to catch them when they don't have lotuses and linkins just popped on each other as well, too.
If they can't just swap them out of the base, that can be there.
I mean, Aurora's being careful.
King Jungle wants to try and scout things.
He wants to try to get it before they get either of these lotuses or leakings on the course
Give him that ward up. I want you to get another Aurora now now
on a doubt
Banner in a good position again another overlord creep will die
photo
Trying to hit it from a distance does have good range here. You can kill it
That'll do well.
One minute left on the Aegis.
How much more does Okie do you want to hang around here?
Let's see if they'll start to back away.
This is the closest game we've had in quite some time.
This is pretty crazy.
Out of games have been pretty stompy.
This one.
LGD keeping it together here with these buybacks.
Cool.
Game three here in the lower bracket.
Semi-finals.
Both teams trying to hold on.
Make it through to the final day.
How are the rest of these levels looking more 25 starting to be hit?
The supports on the side of Aurora are actually very close to 25.
The supports on the side of LGD not so close.
Some pretty good talents as well, too.
H is getting reclaimed. 12 seconds.
See if Aurora wants to make a move around that.
How careful they want to be.
it will be a good one.
Yo-he's next item pickup is a really big one too.
His sale has growth, the butterfly, they don't have the best ways of hitting through it in
particular on anybody.
Yeah, I mean, I mean the illusion's going to-
Yeah.
Be very nasty.
They could deal with-
They hit absurdly hard.
He does take the nether swap cooldown, so it doesn't want to go for the extra damage
here.
All right.
I mean, it's fair enough that they're very good talents.
Yeah, and he's going to find the chance to get multiple of the small self in these fights
besides having been going and how important it is to have that extra sort of way to bring
someone back, right?
Because a lot of these fights kind of kick off and then both teams kind of split.
If they've got that extra chance of getting someone back in, it could be the difference
maker.
Yeah, he did both.
Yeah, very strong ones, actually.
How close is he to having that butter?
He still has no slot for it, so it doesn't even hit the X.
Probably won the board.
That's the same for buyback right in both sides right now.
Playing without buyback is going to be pretty risky.
Current gold.
Everybody's just saving so much.
7,000, 10,000, 6,000 zoos, 5K, Largo, 4K, Tiny, etc. down the board.
You don't want to be that one on the team that doesn't have the buyback ready in an elimination game.
Not in this type of tense scenario here.
Rush about a minute 45 seconds both teams being super careful
Another hack snout it is picked up. Theo is able to pick this so if he can I mean they do have so many single target things
But if they can get them off
Bots to WS super speedy
Only the two deaths still on him I
I come in for them.
I said that I said they're still scared of entering into LGD's half of the map.
In LGD, if they have vision, which the lineup also provides immensely,
can pick and choose those targets much easier here.
Aurora is not only having the best vision tools, they've been having to use the ice blast to get that vision for the initial jump.
And for now, do you think he'll consider of Rhymes or he will indeed pick up this butterfly
despite the fact that he's already in MKB on Yuma?
It's one of the best late games I've ever played in a time period.
Even though there is the MKB it's still...
Yeah.
I think he might... maybe he'll deviate, I'd say.
Ward is placed down, Ward and Sentry.
I like his event suit perhaps like the Shadowblade just kind of loses its what it was doing before
for hunting just wants that last spot to be activated.
And this team is especially with the Zeus coming in the hells out.
Does count both.
Does it come back to the Zeus.
There's a big damage from that over there.
I have a card here and the roll comes out.
We'll see Mikado come up for the side.
He's in it over the focus fire.
Turn up the walk.
Zeus put the jumps over there.
They'll get away.
Nightfall caught at the front.
He jumped, he jumped, and he couldn't stand on top of him, Makoto. The two snapped a jump away.
These fiends grips, they're just catching him full duration. They also did not have the Lotus on nightfall before the jump comes in, so he just gets roared fully locked down.
I think he thought he was going to catch the Zeus inside of that AA blast as well too, but Thailand just gets out of it.
Yeah, he was so close to dying.
He gets out now with both but the big cause dead quite a bit of room for
I was gonna need to consider what they want to do you a Roshan at the least
shoot imagine or it was it was really close for the top right BKB's focus
fires you straight for the Zeus but that has to jump today I think Pox the
refreshers want to get some extra jumps and it's just me so Makoto cannot stay
on top of him Thailand gets out and that obviously Makoto's had to commit so deep
with the BKB in focus for it, he can't get out.
I think Aurora is feeling that pressure too.
Just jumping forward there, very aggressive posturing,
but a couple times down here for Nightfall,
just a bit over aggressive, gets punished for it.
Now Roche gets up again,
LGD's been able to secure pretty much all of it here.
Oh, not a damage room, they'll take this down very easily.
And look at Nightfall, he pings the damage done
for Mizzouce in this late game, 2,700 done back quickly.
Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
And that was with, you know, Makoto,
trying to do his best to get rid of Mizzouce.
Mm-hmm
All that spell amp racking up now an Aegis achieves another refresher and we're getting very close to 60 minutes for these bottles
I mean that's the thing. I'll see you probably do just wait for the 60 minute right even though you have the Aegis
You have time to be able to wait for you can grab Aegis wait a minute and a half get those and then look for the push yourself
Aurora needs to be cleaner with their execution night while he's switching up the build he's debating
He maybe he feels like he does need the MKB now. I actually yeah, the butterflies not gonna cut it
It's absolutely going to need DMKB now that the butterfly is done on Yuma.
Yuma is absolutely in a spot down this Venge.
I sort of wondered like that, the late game potential, but I'm seeing it.
On this Venge, it does seem pretty ridiculous. You've got to try and deal with this hero twice.
And even if there is a Pipe, I just seem like the Zeus is just bypassing all of this
because of how much amplification he has too from the Soulbind.
Level 25 also hit for Theolokor.
It's getting harder and harder really for Nightfall and Makoto to get the jumps on the key targets.
Even though they've got so many ways to protect themselves, these lotuses and lincoln's being thrown out
They just need cleaner entries into these fights. It's it's not the cleanest because you as we see you jump onto humor
He's gonna have the illusion here for a second life. Yep jump on in the Zeus
He's just gonna be able to jump away. He's got more jumps than you could ever dream of having they have to change
Stun him right it time like is honestly played this Zeus game pretty perfectly
So twice and this couple of the 60 minute game is a pretty impressive
Performance here on the Zeus. I don't think a single time
They've gotten that ice blast on top of him besides that early game one that they got initially every single time
It's been like just on the outer ridges of it that the Zeus has been able to play
Ws it's essentially full-slotted so think of what he can buy next to help out the team
He's got the Wind Waker queued up to try to save his buddies if they overcome it
Smoke coming in 60 minutes
We're gonna catch them before they can acquire their neutrals
So so scout things out and they're coming in from the side
still running at them. Yuma wants to see if you can find a swap.
Do they stay out on the map or they're just going to TP out?
They're TPing out. They want to go get these neutral items, I imagine.
Yep.
Five man TP rainbow.
What's the neutral situation looking like? Have we...
Not many have gotten anything yet.
Not yet. Time to start working on those.
Neutral?
K.O.R.Y. He's the current guy, so I'm gonna sneak in and find some extra farm for us here, get our neutrals.
I'm trying to get the sneaky and neutral camps.
Yeah, sometimes we can just get hard to access them, but this is like the very unexpected spot that you can do at times.
So he'll have his pretty early here. Gonna spawn again. We'll essentially have it done right after this.
These neutral items change everything too. Some pretty crazy ones, as we said, with these bobbles.
Let's see how much Spellamp is gonna be there.
And who gets the big ones? Who gets the Virgolias?
Two takes what?
A couple of these have been nerfed, and one of them have been buffed as well too.
So the Spellamp overall on this one, I think it got reduced in the last patch. It was 16%, but it's a 50% bonus, so
it's what, 18%. It's insane. It's insane how much damage it's gonna be doing here.
930 per ulti. And look what he's doing with the creep to whisper, he's just keeping this
time warp aura for the cooldowns, pretty ridiculously well.
Yeah, it's quite nice to see him not pulling him around.
Yeah, it's great. Fantastic, right? What's the jump cooldown? 9 seconds. He did jump
forever, pretty much. Nightfall does get Fleet Footed Stygian, so now without the boots
the
amount of time for a
unit
the way I was with a reason to do with 900 and something, and
Okay, just one more minute, they really wanted to get that catch there.
Okay, feverish witch bane for Theolokor also.
Still so far.
Difficult for Aurora to start the fights.
Unless they find the Zeus, but Talon, his positioning has just been insanely perfect
for 60 minutes so far here.
Spider legs for Picoto, ways to bypass Spider legs for WS also, this item also got nerfed
because it was insane and had like 100% uptime.
What's the plan for LGD?
Just wait 7 minutes and bubble it up again?
I mean, perhaps it is.
If you want to go to the super late versus the Zeus with the bubble,
they're eventually just gonna do infinite...
He's only gonna get stronger and stronger.
Infinite scaling.
And KJ...
I think, yeah, they don't have to do anything if they want.
They can just be coming the ball balls.
They're still growing, right?
The Venge now gets a Daedalus as well, too, to fill up the slot.
Still has potential growth here.
And KJ now has a gap closing item, too.
He has just the Fallen Sky, so he can get in position
to get the Funenstruts every time, which
have been crucial for them.
And he's getting nuts.
Another Lincoln.
Another Lincoln.
OK, he's got one to throw on his allies, too.
Wink Waker as well to save.
Yeah, anything to try and disrupt the opportunity
of LGD getting that Soulbind fiends grip combo out.
These fights are going to be absolutely insane
to keep track of.
Nightfall damage is absolutely ludicrous as well, too,
with this decelerator.
So if he does get onto the Zeus, the Zeus will probably
just evaporate.
But Tylong has just yet to be caught in the last 30 minutes
or so.
Yeah, those two deaths are such a long time ago.
Nullify now for the beast.
They're making a line straight for Tylong.
They saw him up here.
But he's out.
He's out.
Doesn't have a stay as well.
Come on that side of the map.
Knows that they're likely to be running straight for him.
I know, and this game could get to the point with so many rapiers, honestly,
with the way it is kicking off how both teams are fighting.
I mean, say that, but not these Q-tips up yet!
I see what you're doing.
Koto's got one.
And eventually, the Zeus will absolutely start to do it, too, if it's at this point.
It's just still not dying.
Good old bobble.
Did he bobble in?
It's got to be a little bit of a roar that knows that they need to stop the baubly.
Wait, I mean the baubly though from humans is kind of, it's like a baubly fleet foot.
I guess it's speedy.
That works.
That's your cap though.
That's your what is the cap?
It's like 5 or something?
Like 15.
I mean the next baubly we'll put him at hasty move speed if he does go for it.
strap yourselves in this game has the potential to continue going usually when
we say that it ends almost immediately afterwards but doesn't feel like that's
gonna be the case for this one
they're gonna stop the bobbling
they can just start
they can get agonies for the titans they still do
agonies for the titans
it's been a long time since i missed that
i'm gonna enjoy one of those
how's the harmonizer looking to at the hoodwink has it
i don't even know how much smell i have this section
sections of giving for a hoodwink. How much does the ult do if he has everything on cooldown?
He could do like 3,000 something damage on this hoodwink with just an ulti.
Because if he has what, 1, 2, 3, 4 abilities on cooldown, 28% plus 15, so 42%.
Yeah, that's it. It's gonna be about 3,000.
It's already crazy.
Bit of a bust.
And then a vortex and the spell amp that you get from the boomerang too.
Ah yeah, it's gonna be absurd if he does connect it onto a target that's not BKB.
I will try to keep track of it
And try to keep track of these lotuses Lincoln's et cetera is Thailand go for silver edge. Okay
Not a rape here
positioning
Surprise you didn't even go yasha kind
Because you did have the yasha cuter for it did but
Indeed is opted to work on the others other staff Satan is gonna be picked up for you ma
get almost critical mass it still hasn't bought the shard
rush next point of contention perhaps 30 seconds till that will be up and
lgd they just keep looking to fight in this area well they've got the easy way
to buy back come into the fights as well to this kind of cluster area as well to
for the Zeus
Yeah, it's gonna be just nice for saving. Yeah, if someone's getting gone on by the tiny or the
little win ranger and feel the core now finally is killing up the agonims as well too so could
potentially can get these illusions of the tiny and the win ranger too. I have no idea how this
game actually goes for scale and this is nuts. We're getting the 70 minute mark.
It's nearly bauble time.
It's almost bauble time.
It's nearly bauble time.
Let's go to 90 next right, so 90% since you're doubling up those neutrals.
The bauble.
The question is, do you want to switch on light for a minute?
This one is probably the best if it's not regalia.
I think so, especially if you're going to go to the axe.
That's true.
I think they're both insane.
Either way, at this point, it's all about execution.
Is there going to be roars reflected?
Are they going to get double roars?
Are they going to get double fiends grips?
Block of Cheese also has been acquired, so KJ does have that to help his buddies.
Has it level 25?
I mean, if he does get a fiends grip, it lasts forever.
forever 8.75 second duration not including the debuff that he gets on people which is 10% extra so
these numbers are starting to get pretty crazy i'm gonna try and go for the smoke now lgd okay
see if humor can get the setup
the insane amounts of cash zusol the scout everyone's gonna be full defense 90 ton
that zusol comes out it's like okay they're looking for us yep backup reset and then probably
We've re-smoked and looked to fight after. That first new assault is ideally whatever I think we'd look for.
Last boss coming in.
Does not connect on anybody.
Need the team really gonna feel safe enough to go into the pit whilst the others...
...is completely alive.
Good one.
Does get the wave of terror on the tiny so it gets a big bonus damage for the next few seconds.
It's at 800.
I mean they can't afford to hit the rush. It just feels not worth it as well at the moment.
No need to risk it.
Book of the Dead is in position to build the scout.
I've got any crazy level kind of 30s, but you know, having both of the 25 talents on any of these cores.
So she's gonna get this.
Hey, is this what is nice, I guess? They do how at WS's.
I bet you've never even seen the frog stop interval, how much of the difference it makes, so, I don't know.
Oh, 9-4!
He's in!
He's gonna find you, ma!
Take him out the once, illusion up, we're ready to fight though.
It's gonna be blocked here by the Lincolns to attempt the swap.
Ice blast only collects on the one target.
That's probably gonna be full backup by imagine from LGD.
Rose lost one of the effective lives on the bench.
Rose is gonna start shifting toward top, so they have to move themselves as well over there.
Are they gonna get the bobbles?
Seven minutes.
The power runes also.
Okay, it's illusion at the bottom, not the biggest one.
That's whatever.
They got a bobble.
Get the neutrals, get the bubbles, get the neutrals.
Next round of the bubbles.
Now I'm getting Yasha, a bit of a Kai Yasha now, Tyler.
Blake now also, so easier positioning for the fiend's grip, which lasts an hour.
Nine seconds of course.
Okay, alright, they've been doing, honestly, they're doing a good job of distancing themselves from the ice blast.
I think he's beginning only one man ice blast in the most of these fights.
for the fight again. The Rapier dream is going to be put in hold by Makoto. Opps to get the overwhelming blink.
Sure.
Aurora, looking to punish while they expected to probably be farming those baubles.
KJ.
Oh, they might just find him. Oh yeah. They're going to see him. It's going to be a death bang.
It's going to be dispelled. Dispersal will move back. I see. I see. I'm going to get out, but it does hit.
But it does hit on him to whisper, Power Shove's well slowing him down,
McCleod is going straight towards him.
He's in trouble.
Knife will get the jump, and put the beat, and he'll turn with the roar.
And it's a buck knife, and the Refresher has the second roar.
To put himself...
Of course, Wind Waker's there, protecting Knife 4 for now.
Whisper dies.
Knife will get the beat, and he'll get me off, and he's ready to look towards you.
But five-axe command over Aljazeva, put the grip on the WS.
You never try to stand his ground, and get Snife 4.
He's going to...
He'll penetrate the tosses up, though.
Knife 4 throws you away.
There's a bunch of ones, Corey! So Corey will fill the pain of the vengeance instead!
And it's used with three buybacks for this LGD, and it does only get them the AA kill at the end of it all.
It's three buybacks, but Yuma was standing here, he was beating the tiny, quite hand of the hand.
I didn't nearly get him, but it's an expensive fight.
It is.
We'll see the buyback coming out from Corey, so they do not want to get the chance ready for the Shams to go down.
So triple buyback and both of the refreshers were used as well, they still have one refreshers shard on the bane.
I don't know if they really want to fight with three buybacks on cooldown on LGD.
I mean, you got a backup and bauble.
It's dangerous moments here.
Aurora, chasing forward here.
They're smoking up as if they still want to try and fight this LGD, but it's so risky.
He'll be perhaps feeling strong since he was able to stand his ground, but it doesn't
have BKB up.
The buyback situation, it's scary, Aurora.
Smoke again.
If they get a good fight here, they might just be able to run it down the lane.
What do you do there? Trying to go for this Roshan.
He's committing for it.
Retribution Roar 15 seconds thoughts back up.
This is some very risky gameplay from LGD.
Ice blast to scout.
Does not see anything.
I'm starting to come back up on cooldown.
sends the blast doesn't see anything 30 seconds it'll be on hold on
BKB is back up for nightfall Aghanim's about to be finished up for him BKB from
Mikoto up. Let's find these baubles. Everybody's got their BKB ready. No
refreshers though on the side. He might just let Aurora take the Roshan. Do you
really want to fight this as LGD? Do you really want to give it up is the question
too. I think at this point maybe yes because three heroes with six minutes on
buyback. Probably. Looks like they are gonna give it up. Just look to hold the high ground.
You've got great high ground hold.
So we swap between the spawn of the Zeus.
So Rosjant will be let to go the way of Aurora.
Did they give the refresher to Kaori? Yeah, I imagine so.
It doesn't feel like anybody else uses it really.
I guess Mira could in theory, but I could double ice blast.
Could just be a game-ender.
He's bobbling. He did get it, right?
So what's it doing now?
So from Nandro up to 960.
On the Zeus ult, at least.
Not including...
The salt bind.
Yes.
Yeah, the E-blade.
Don't prevent it, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's an absurd amount of damage.
There's so many different resetting tools though with these satanics.
It's impressive that Kodo doesn't have one.
I'm coming to tier 2's.
Aurora, ready to start bringing the push in.
What's this Aegis on my coach at?
They've got the number advantage now too.
With the Aegis, with all their buybacks at the ready,
LGD not having all the buybacks at the ready.
I don't know what to go for.
Pretty risky play, they're inching outside here, Whisper.
He's gonna be cautious, Thunderclap does come in to stuff any potential blinks.
Gonna focus the building on the code side.
It's not easy to just hit this building.
30 has been hit.
All three cores down the side.
All of LGD does have that.
Almost 30 on the wing.
Just how it can actually matter too? Actually, it doesn't sound like it, but 16% if someone just gets low and you do finish them off too in some situations, even though Linking Power Shots aren't the best, can't matter what they have last.
And he did switch, so he does go for the regalia. I thought perhaps...
Okay, yeah, just better for the numbers on the damage, just overall here.
So that's ready to clear the wave safely.
20% is more than mine. Quite pretty close, either way, whatever. Once at the big damage.
bubble again, for you, Mark.
So he's speeding.
Does it work?
His movement speed didn't go up.
Didn't it all?
I didn't have the mats in.
Okay, what do you have the mats in?
There we go.
Okay, I was like, what's going on here?
It's pretty rapid.
I was like, is my math failing?
It usually does, but not that bad.
I was getting the creep mic pushed up to the base.
Two and a half minutes on ages.
The sun is in.
Sweat little poke, they've got the banner.
Triple catapults.
Hydra's better.
Press online now for...
Tylum. Leaning into the right click.
Right.
Ice blast to scout.
He's gonna hit Whisper. Connect.
No more a way to make the jump onto him in the night, man.
He's gonna have to keep him safe.
He's doing it, but I'll pop the key on this.
They could kill people from a distance.
A hoodwink, or an ice blast, a power shot.
It can absolutely kill anybody.
Even with these crazy HP pulls at this point, Makoto in, ready to look to the barracks now.
Flots are starting.
Rain tracks gone.
And at the melee racks, two Makoto doing a lot here with this Aegis push.
LGD just very scared to fight without these buybacks.
It's impossible to get the swap set up with these low assists just being spammed onto Makoto.
The inner position is also really good here from the side of the road.
Are they doing it, Tylon?
He's gonna BKB the Nightmare as well.
Oh, he feels forced to BKB like that.
That's a very early one.
Well, the edge of the body actually didn't get the swap on him, Akatsa.
He's healed up.
He's healed it up.
Bro, look at a big burst hit onto him.
Now, take him out for one!
My god, that damage!
Mira, which was that?
That was a 2,500 damage!
I didn't see the numbers. How much was that?
2,000!
Under the vortex and all the amp,
they were saying the Harmonizer...
Holy crap.
Let me go for another set head. Let me cut head.
I'll take the truck in.
A minute left on the Aegis.
Right away with the push quite nicely in the mid.
Looks like he's getting away with it again here on the bottom.
Now get the swap back!
Another stun, no use for rawl, but he's up to the air with the Wind Waker.
They'll save him for now.
Little fire, dragging back to safety.
It's a big illusion there.
It's not enough though. WS got a heal and reset.
Very dangerous though. You see the Alicorn has to just instantly Aetheroblade himself
to in some of the fights because there's just a random tree that flies out of it.
Can almost one shot him too.
Back in. Back in.
Huge amount of stun with this Aegis.
Malyrax on the bottom. Gone.
Rain tracks as well, they got two sets of racks here, a good bit of progress for Aurora.
These Lotus and Lincoln just last in eternity because of the Encore from the Largo, so it's super hard for them to get these opportunities to either swap or get the Roars as we've seen.
They have gotten a couple of them here, but now that they're 30, it does feel like it lasts forever.
What is the overall duration on it anyway?
So it's 23 seconds on the Lincoln Sphere Block.
Not too shabby when he uses it on an ally.
Nice blast to scout, they got a bubble again, they got a bubble, they do have a bubble again, it feels like.
Nightfall, he's hunting.
Double blinks, group comes out, good grip.
We need to get the BKB off, needs Yuma to bring in the damage-driven to try and kill him, and here it is!
Yuma turns around towards the tiny, takes him out, now goes for WS!
What a fight from them. Holy crap, they got through the lincolns and lotuses somehow.
Damn. Look at the damage coming in too. And they have
No way to stop the Steinscript. He gets another full duration one in it.
He has the 25 Towns, so even though it's versus like a status, it's just tiny, you know, it lasts an eternity.
And now they can ball but they're dead.
Why am I just gonna come out here from nightfall?
This game continues 25 Tokens that they need to farm for those baubles.
I mean, Titans need to go the ball more.
See it again. Double flakes to build the disengaged, beautifully done, and then just a few grips.
They don't, I guess they don't, they don't have anything to stop.
How do I, how do I always stop this? They don't, they don't have to kill something onto these,
These illusions in particular, but that's a full duration grip.
I mean, they just don't really have a place to stop it, right?
None of the AoE stuns are really going to be big enough radius to clip both,
so you're going to need to use multiple spells to stop it all.
Well, they've got to do something, because KJ is literally just solo killed.
Essentially got two kills on the cores because of that.
You can't have a hit from the two of them.
Push coming in from Neymar.
You might just want two sets of racks themselves.
LGD striking back heavy with the push.
This game is absolutely crazy.
They don't want to fully buy back Mira will try to hang on to the other two
I mean, how would you do don't have to be that careful because they do have buybacks available themselves. They do
Pretty aggressive with this push
So that respect the
Coming in and I long in the meantime though while his team was pushing he did bubble and he can go for another bubble for another
Oh
Damages is gonna be I can't even it's I can't even I can't tell it's not going up. Why is it not going up?
I don't know how much I was 60 earlier. I don't know how much damage it does. It's not up. It's not updating
Oh, he swaps the tire and it's all that's true. He's got rid of the tire
Well, let's see how much you did you have to farm a lot of them, but he will yeah probably get there
I don't even know how much these spells are gonna be doing
100k damage here so far from Thailand. That's it. I thought it was gonna be higher than that to be honest with you at 81 minutes
I was gonna be like 200k
Shut your flame at that man. It's just falling it would be higher
Yeah, look at that damage taken raw
164,000
The collecting the lotuses to so LGD is prepping those blocks of cheese to for themselves
I already just need to go up on the cages somehow for Aurora right just can't be getting these double grips
No, it's but it's a lot to do it. It's it's just impressive really the LGD of finding ways to get these grips up and getting these rolls off right
I think multiple times
They're getting in there still finding the chance to find these rolls whisper
Try to think what else they want to purchase in order to find the saves here
Okay, so if I say lens Samira wants some extra distance if you can win wait your save right
So I mean that's the ideal is if somebody does get gripped you win wake up immediately
And then you try to turn the fight from there rather than just go for the cancel on all of these illusions, right?
But hard to execute in these crazy teamfights and the two buybacks down
LGD's hunting. I mean, it's gonna be tempting right to try and go for the play to kill nightfall
You come in the next five minutes. You probably be able to end the game. Yeah
See how safe nightfall does end up playing here. He does. He has a cute
What do you sell for the rapier? Probably the harpoon right and just play around the volley?
Yeah, I mean harpoon is such good mobility, but yeah
Roche yep, you will get it. I know the refresher shark
Another block of cheese if they're not the chance to push for
Trybacks you've got them surely enemy. They're missing two at the moment and one of them the big one
They always have to do so to scout
They're going to try and catch up on some of the neutral tokens, they madstone right on the Aurora side.
I still cannot believe that Tylen has only died twice. This is Outrage's performance from him.
If he had died even a couple more times in this fight, it could have perhaps crumbled.
But he just literally only died twice in this game.
A close game, a game where the editing got more kills than your team has and as the suit ship only died twice.
Outrage has done a great job of just staying in the back lines.
Bobble it up again. Bobble it up maybe.
He's gonna go the 14.
Eventually this will actually just kill him right?
What time do you get to that it's just gonna kill everybody?
I mean he's gonna take a long time.
Because it is an infinite increase.
It's a gradual increase on the damage.
But if ult, nimbus, refresh, ult, nimbus.
And some cores could die pretty soon from that.
Okay, oh, it's already at the time you're waiting for the 50 right so you can go again
Wait, it didn't go up. What do you mean? It's only 130 didn't go up again. Oh
Yeah, what's another way mine says 130?
Mine says 130 might bug like click him to mine's bug. Here's guys
I think you're just unlucky.
I'm unlucky.
170%
You're gonna find the 51, right?
I mean, why not? He doesn't need to join his boots of trouble, too. Let his team do this thing.
They're not gonna come out and fight on the side of Aurora, so yeah.
Well, I say you're gonna find the 51. I wonder if they're gonna try and do something while it's not for dinner.
Bye bye. But it looks like LGD are not actually trying to push and punish that.
They're scared.
Bobble it up.
it up
This is the highest bubble I've seen of these I've not gotten to point senior 210%
bubble I do have to say no this is it's gonna be the highest bubble we've seen
in pro gameplay then he's gonna be a lot like 65 days what's gonna do over a
thousand damage each lightning bolts gonna do over 600 damage plus the
percentage increases
good luck someone mess it up
2 minutes till the buyback comes out for nightfall.
Cause this is the thing right now, they're not gonna be doing anything.
And so his buybacks are back in play.
Of course he had nightfall, had the rapier, and did indeed sell that harpoon.
He did, okay.
And now you have to hide and push right, you look at it, and if they do mess up,
and you just hit by like a three tree volley,
the tree's gonna hurt.
They could just kill you.
It is a disgrace for Gallia.
So as you said nightfall, he does want to get out there and get a new neutral.
It's hard though and it's so scary to get out on the map.
It is. And there's not really many places for him to farm so far.
On the left side, we usually want to farm those. It's kind of dangerous for us in these pro games.
The Mantra on the floor, yeah, it's just as up.
Why is he holding the Mantra?
He'll just be passing it. It's probably... I don't have slots to hold it, so I'll just crush it over to him.
Because I'm 10-slotted.
Use the other core's backpack, because the backpack is his backpack.
That's exactly it. We might need to have couriers as backpacks as well, too.
I think we do see one at least coming down. So we're gonna have couriers for backpacks with backpacks
Nearly back up this by back one minute
Doesn't need a little bit of gold. It's only for you
I don't have much of anything banner. Dakota's trying to deal with it. Just get caught by the stun
What they attempt for king jungles to get his hands on it back
My eyes are starting to fail me
trying to keep track of it all, but I'm these infeoples getting reflected in orders. I just cannot keep track of all of them. 50 scary seconds still.
We're gonna have to see if they can swap off a god! They'll get the grip!
And we'll be helping them out for now for the win when they go raw, holding them back because they're trying to just really get back the stage at the base and he will!
You might try to look for another swap set up against them, but they're hexed!
He's dead on the ones.
Gunfield illusion.
Shackle hits.
They're buying time here.
Back of the gobble.
I need to go to the end island. Wait, what's the time? Can they get to 60 or is that an
unlock yet? 3 more minutes. 3 more minutes for the 60 neutrals on last. Back up and bobble.
We'd be going the distance. Back up and bobble. Damn it. Okay, I feel like I was just grabbing.
only one of them is bobbling on Aurora, right?
Yeah.
Wait, nobody's bobbling.
No, nobody's bobbling.
No, it was replaced, right?
So no bobbling for them feels kind of bad.
Yep.
But, Knight full of leases.
Get a bit of space out of get out,
and maybe at least get something to replace
this disgraced now, of course, regardless.
They're trying to get their lanes out, though.
Trying to get them in a better position
since it is forced onto their side here at this point.
Axe out for the people.
Everybody's going to be on the slide.
Yeah, why not?
I know.
At this point.
Yeah, because what about the moon sharp right on humor wait he needs to make a slot for the blessing there we go
Okay, did now he's got it. I this item swapping is gonna be hilarious to like look at what they have to swap and they all have full backpacks
Pretty
I mean is it is it sort of insane? I pick up
They got it on anyone they got everything switch the phone now. He's okay. That's enough. I don't need to be bobbling it
For a fleet footed now he's got stages. We've got more damage to
True way just has enough movespeed anyway. Yep. You turn off. Oh title changed
He went for bubble feverish. So now it's cool down reduction
Okay, so 210% of 50
She's got like I don't even know how much cool that actually I can't do math. What do you mean?
We have to look for the original cooldowns, right? Yeah
I'll check that for you, look, here you go.
So, with Octarin as well too.
I'm not doing the numbers on it, I'm just gonna be a fight.
This is the base cooldown, what is it now?
It's down to 56 seconds.
So he has 50% cooldown reduction.
So for a 130 second spell, the Zoo Salt is down to 56 seconds.
So he has a 53%...
Is there a number that's sourced somewhere?
No, it doesn't show anymore.
Obviously a little bit in part of the...
Is that even with the talent? There's not even with the talent.
There's not a Zoo Salt cooldown talent anymore, it's...
So he goes from having a raise, you mentioned.
60% Spell Eb to 0.
But, he's having the spell that much more frequently.
Yes.
So the math for the DPS over the minutes of gameplay,
I don't know, whatever.
You probably do take the flexibility of having the lower cooldown now,
rather than the extra damage.
Yeah, it also works on items too, right?
So he's gonna be able to play around his items with this too.
Refresher's down to 78 seconds too, so perhaps that he was sinking as well.
And then he can play like this right-clicking weird kind of thing too, because what's the BKB cooldown?
41 seconds still.
Catch, Makoto.
Broke the little swap.
Damage is coming through. Get the cripple, son!
What if I get to be there?
Makoto can run away!
No, the roll comes in, they've got him! Makoto's dead!
Too much damage. Time to run, Aurora.
Everybody else gets down.
It's illusion.
That's kind of speedy.
It's kind of onyky, alright, little bit.
But why does that spin around?
Blue things that was awesome. What was that the replay up? It's the game break it like back in the day
That's the tailwind I guess from the agonies how it looks like on the illusion though, but that looks weird
Yeah, what why did it look so weird? I don't know what is it?
It was the way it's in the ag's part, you know, it makes you the tailway
So that's a tailwind active on him. What is spinning around it? That's the tailwind buff
It's like three brain. I have absolutely no idea. I don't know what's it brains. I don't know what's going on anymore. I
I don't have brains anymore look at the current gold again 15,000 14,000 30
There's the right there we go get him guy right because this is the replacement. Yes, right?
Well, I'm not gonna go down instead of the damage. I'll buy the damage. Okay. Let's see how many he can buy as well, too
He's gonna buy yeah, it's gonna buy two of them straight up
No, you can only for me to save and this was to sell something
No, wait, no, you can't afford a second one. Okay. Yeah, I if he sells something if you sell one and buy back, okay?
So yeah, the buyback cost is getting pretty ridiculous. Right. How much buyback cost room?
4,006 wait
No, yeah, 4,000 800
4,000 800 nearly a 5k cost on the buyback for some of these heroes at this point
91 minutes in I have no idea what's I have no idea who's gonna win this game now at this point
I mean, it's insane.
Do you think this is going to plan for one of the two teams?
I would say no.
No.
But we are getting this beautiful display of a,
I have not seen a tier six bobble.
The bobble.
He's going to get it.
He's going to bobble again.
Keep bobbling.
16 more.
Smoke.
WS will purchase it.
What can they replace?
I'm just, I'm looking.
They've got everything they could ever want!
They've got Wind Waker on their head.
They have to double Wind Waker to savor the fiends' grips to be able to get those angles.
What's the strat?
Whisper's rebuying the helmet the overload that he sold us.
At this point, when you're at 90 minutes, right, you're able to just use it and put it back away,
and then use it and just put push and all that, even though it's gonna get killed super easily, right?
You might as well buy something, I guess.
Makone never bought that right here, and he's got the money to do so.
Okay.
It might happen at some point.
I don't want to switch them out for it, maybe.
And also, why is he not crafting? He's got the perfect one.
He's just Spider-Legs, please put it.
He's killing the rapier again.
Okay, now he is. Maybe he'll buy it.
He'll take the damage item when he has the rapier, because he does that for Galia,
so maybe he's waiting for an all-in moment,
and it's just for Galia's rapier and go all-in.
Could be potential there for them.
Did you just get to bobbling him? Nearly.
Nearly up to 60 madstone on Tylong.
250% bonus.
It's coming. Here we go.
Oh yeah, what's the cooldown now?
He's not Borgle, Jazzy.
There we go. So it's going down like 5 seconds.
Eventually?
Okay, now it's wrong on our observers PC actually.
Because on my PC I see it says 51.8.
I see 51.8 as well.
So it's the game's struggle. It's a lot of maths that the game has to do.
How is it? I mean, that's crazy how it's just like randomly swatches which one it doesn't work on.
The visual is definitely breaking.
So it's going down five seconds every time he does it. So every ten minutes, he can go down five seconds
So if he in so what's 50 divided by 10 he's that's five I can do that so he needs 50 more minutes
50 more minutes right and he could permit you just win the game. Okay, we'll see if we get to that right doesn't because it's
Additive
Reduction so eventually he will hit the 50 more minutes. He can just do so do so do so do so I've seen it before in a tanker
Hmm. It's not not cool
I mean I don't run at me that's probably the best way to win this game right don't don't do anything don't do anything for 50 minutes
Until you can just spam the zoo salt with your six rapiers. Wait, you know what to whisper can do
He can give him the time warp. That's probably why he wants the overlord. He just filed it. That's true
Get his is more cool down reduction send it so how does that percent work in the maths?
Is that adding it or it's like 11% of all the other production he has I'm pretty sure this one's also add and I just another five
It's just a okay season one from fish wasn't as out of 46. So it was a 46 second cool down zoo salt
And that was added to right? Yeah, so it's 11% of fifty six six five percent. That's 11. That's how it works. Yes
When Mike is gonna be there
They nearly breathe down the Beastmaster
In fact, they do they kill Whisper by using buybacks Aurora
They want more kills smear and knife will come over the vibe. I said look at the humor
Get him once, and I'll do it again, not for a jump-sum.
He's ever picked back up the rapier, they'll kill off the Illusion very quickly.
That's two. Double Daedalus for Nightfall, he is hitting insane on all of it.
I hit the Roche Pit.
Bi-Bax use Roche, he's gonna shift, just getting the point killed before it does shift, it gives you so much damage.
Nice 11 for a robot, again having to use the Bi-Bax.
Did Makoto commit? I haven't seen him switch the item just yet, he does have the rapier in that quick time.
He's still something for it, well he's taking the disperse route of his inventory, so he's making room for this rapier.
And he can't switch to the Divine Rally. I think he's waiting for a moment where they can just perhaps just go for it with it.
All in on the fountain. Oh, it's on the fountain. I probably didn't avoid that. I didn't want to try and hit the buildings.
Another rape has been picked up. Well, I thought Nidfall picked it up there.
He did. He was another one.
Another one is coming out. So the second one's coming out. So you've got two rapes.
What?
And then they catch up the elicor. They're ready to try and end it.
I mean, maybe this is the downfall.
They might have bobbled the bobble too much.
Uh-oh.
Bang!
And then the Fiends drop on a Nidfall.
He's got Aegis. Win Racer.
regular on to mcconnell as well with the pressure with the second one they got a
swap back on mcconnell
by best coming out straight away from correa and mcconnell
nightfall
he's gonna get out of there in a second time and get the fleet off
nightfall he's gonna run
get out of here
leave the supports behind
save yourself
can he though?
come on in
and now the attacking jungles is on top of him
closes the gap onto the tide and mcconnell is trying to bring down yuma
and again he will get it once but he's not gonna be able to kill the illusion
nightfall he'll turn
He's running! He's out of King Junkers but he's still gotta run! The rules they're on him in illusion!
King Junkers buys back. I'm out of WS. He's got out.
He's got WS. He is unlikely to get out.
Wind Waker.
He's running. This is gonna try him by time.
Stunned. Spider legs. Running through the walls.
He can't sing a song. He's been silenced.
He's gonna try for a TP out. There ain't no like them. He's gone.
3 down, all the way to the left of this.
I'm loading the track.
I support them for good.
Okay.
For 70 seconds.
Nightfall did get out though.
He did.
Big escape from him.
I cannot believe he got out either.
Oh, there's only one way they can do it.
You've got to sell your arms as Makoto and just spam by VT branches so you can put them
next to Nightfall when he tree bombs.
They do need to probably have some extra branches.
That's what he's got to do.
Wind Waker initially, but the Refresher comes out, they get the secondary cats on Nightfall.
They're getting the connections with those Sickle Tugget Disables, versus these Lotus and Lincoln.
The game's just getting too active and too crazy. They can't get the protection for their cores.
But the problem is, they might be tempted to bubble again, LGD. It's available.
He's got the three rapiers.
Oh, it's the Scout. Did you see them in the fountain? All three cores.
30 seconds until they have the supports back up.
Yuma is still technically alive.
But you said three rapiers?
He has three of the Zeus.
Give him the mega creeps.
26 is until the scene is back up.
Even if it's going to have the real hero back as well in about 20.
WS.
Whisper's got the red. You're skewed up to every, and you said everybody's skewed him up.
I'm in the attempt to go back and bauble.
He's going to get the 7.
The bauble is too strong.
Tier 7 bauble, whatever you want to. Tier 9 bauble.
He wants the bauble again and he's going to.
Oh my goodness, where's his time warp brief?
West for where to go?
Can you get him another one? He does. Is there one available? He does. Oh, no. You must kill it. Don't kill it!
Oh, he killed it. Oh well.
Well, hopefully Thailand didn't notice. That might be a report. I'm sure they're not focusing on that. What's going to happen?
All right, how many buybacks you use? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 everybody, Pizzuz.
He's gonna be able to it's gonna be a while for the ball bling. He did two minutes away from being able to bubble twice more right
Yes, it's twice more. I don't have lost. I don't even know anymore losing track
Think you can bubble once more now, and then once more two minutes or once more one minute, but he needs
115 tokens
To do the double bubble. Yeah. Yeah, okay, whatever. We'll focus on other things
I'm didn't eat the ball ball but what what is the play now well actually might be waiting
I think is playing for the zero seconds do so I don't know I need a drink I think
you know that's what you plan for now I need a water you've gotten this far you
can't just stop you never can stop where the regalia is looking like Mikoto
does have his again it said nightfall still with the Stygian goodness
At some point, do they switch up anything else?
I'm losing track of who's swapping what items at this point too.
Okay, Kaori buys it.
I think he bought this Crimson Guard recently to protect the base potentially.
I've heard the no longer part.
Tea break!
I'm down.
Realize the askings for it.
It's coming up to 100 minutes.
One of those games here.
Absolutely insane.
40 more minutes until...
Until zero cooldown.
That's the dream.
That is the dream.
I actually don't even be looking at the other spells, so we've got a 0.5 second arc lightning there.
You're not even clicking arc lightning anymore.
What's the number, 17 seconds?
Two second lightning blow.
Heavenly jump is like permanent.
You will always have to jump them.
Unless you're literally just like spamming it, like non-stop.
You'll have to heavenly jump every single time.
But he's just sitting in the fountain anyway.
And he's another rapier.
And he's working on it.
He's working on it.
He'll get it.
Rapiers coming out. He'll get it. He'll need to squawk at least half
The six rapiers so you can switch them in when you're in the fountain to pop your own so there's the fourth one
So you've got four rapiers
So it's the place you go back and pull with I did he never got his 70 ball ball
He will sticking about how he can slots things. I think at this point many of them are he's probably KJ
Can you hold on to this for me? They need more neutral. They need more max lots is what they need
Neither team is gonna do anything at least to let the buyback. He's trying to break records on damage
I think he's just gonna spam the ult permanently and then he's gonna get to a point where he's at 500,000 hero damage done
It's gonna be the highest hero damage done in Dota of all history. What is the actual record of damage in a game?
This has potential to get there on WS
I mean you don't want to be that guy that buys 100 minute BKB
You know, everyone's having all this fun and you buy BKB 100 minutes in that's just like a little bit sad
Thank you, but I didn't even notice he didn't have
Guess I'll buy BKB 100 minutes in
You know, that's most of the course in my games, you know, that's when they're gonna buy it
100 minutes
Okay, you can bubble again. Okay, there we go. What would again bubble 46 seconds of first time correctly
I think it is right. It was for two on before yes, it's 46, but with the crew needs that creep. Yep. Is he working on that creep?
Yeah, I
Spawns he'll see if it spawns. I don't think they're thinking about stuff like that though. They're probably
Decinally is
Two minutes left for buyback. She's coming up pretty soon
Oh my god
One more
One more bubble
Nah I mean with the bubble he's gonna go cool down
Well he can switch though
He can switch the bubble
After that, nah you don't switch the bubble
It's not worth it, nah nah nah
You want the cool down, the little bit extra damage is whatever
It's little bit extra, what do you mean little bit?
It's gonna be like 100% spelling by the top of 100%
Not as cool as having like a zero set in the hole. It is too cuz you know
That is way cooler. I can't put forgetting the game that we've looked in the qualifiers that they had
What game was that I'm in back up
We literally were looking at a game before this and we saw all those Azusa and he got three rapiers and then Thailand's like
No, I like that game. I'll I'll outdo that one. What was that game? We should we brought up?
It's one from the qualifiers right was it one in deep of LGD in
It was like a hundred minute game
I'll find it why did you find that I don't know what I found it. Well, someone else will find it. Whatever
I how did you just about did you do these games?
And that's how you got it
Almost getting one
But you didn't know so much
Look at me. He's playing a minigame
Look at this opinion. I this is brutal casual clock purchase it fresh shot advice. Nobody wants them fresh shot
This game has truly just become a minigame at this point.
What was I looking up at?
Chicken matches and chicken skins.
Cause we, they were...
No, maybe it wasn't them.
No, it wasn't this one.
I don't know if it was them.
Whatever, I saw it at some point.
So many champions.
I think one of the qualifiers recently had some zoos with three rapiers.
But yeah, as I say, thailungs don't even better than that here.
What happened to his four frags?
Is he just on the Korean base?
Yeah, he doesn't have space for it.
Nah.
Well, he's got a bubble again
But now it's a hundred minutes to them he can do the 91 or no, I think you might be a couple behind you
I
Do not I'm losing track. Oh, did you get the time warp? Oh, he does have it. Okay. It's there
We're getting get they do have a word on it. Yeah, KJ's got a word on it
Go and get the ancient frost bed and go for your Zeus. You're gonna die. He got it. Oh my god
This is so insane. I cannot believe what I'm missing. This is absolutely ridiculous
My time looks at the time of his life now at this point and he has been majority there
She said only two deaths and he's just sitting in the fall ball in what he's jumping around
He's literally just having fun. It's a mini game. Oh, don't kill the time will creep. What did they take one?
Where's the time? It's on him. It's Adam. It's not. I'm a son. It's on. Yeah, okay
At this point is it? No, it's at the base. It's at the base. Oh
I guess that's where his presence is. So anyway, so they can kind of keep him. They sit. Oh arcade rude. Oh, what is going on now?
Arcane 35. It's gonna be 30 seconds. 30 second cooldown. What the hell is going on?
30, 30 more second cooldown. What the hell is going on? Just bauble. Don't push. Mira is
dead for 50. They can go for a fight here and potentially force the buybacks again
to extend the scan even longer. Like there's a guaranteed win condition for
RGD if they do nothing. Yeah, just 35 minutes and they win. It would just fundamentally be
the wrong play to do something they might lose the game if they I mean they
get to that point they're gonna be insane they are smoking out Mikoto it's risky
Rauron is gonna get the Rauron he got the biggest group on the Mikoto son
they got the damage to kill him off WS getting low they got WS they're gonna be able to kill Mera
nice one Mikoto is in trouble that's a dieback on Mera full back Aurora
there's just way too much damage everyone gets chunked like one but 10% HP just
from the Seussaults right there sitting with that but he lost the radius Mikoto
Yeah
No, there's space for it though, so it'll price it there
Nepha team's been mega creep yet
They don't matter
Still in 105 minutes in
Wait for it
10 seconds
There he is
He's got pipe, he's got to stay near WS as well
That's ancient frostbitten, golem's trying to do his best to keep up with Tylong keeping up and down the map
He's too fast, here we go, wait for it
There it is, run, run, run, run
He's almost getting one shot from the combo here.
Careful with his nimbus!
Careful with his nimbus!
Jesus!
Jesus!
Get back down!
Touch it on the nimbus!
I think I'll make a crick!
It did!
Took him about 106 minutes!
Tylong is telling his team wait for it.
He needs 50 more tokens for it.
I need to leave you off of the map with your Tylong, right?
Definitely not.
Fifty more tokens for you.
You don't need to half of the map in your timeline, right?
Definitely not.
You barely leave the base.
LGD can potentially end it here.
40 seconds, no win ranger has buyback.
Force down pretty quickly.
I don't want to use the buyback. I mean, the ancients expose.
Catapults.
No mirror for 40. He does not have to look for buyback.
The buyback's coming to come out after Makoto.
Ice Blast is coming in down the middle.
I'm not the one to whisper, BKB!
Aurora just can't hit targets. They literally can. I watch Nightfall jump out, try to swing, just hit tip by a nimpus, has to immediately run away.
Are they needing more rapias?
Honestly, the three of them are from the fountain, there's a zoo salt!
And the codos, look at this damage!
This is without the Soulbound. I want to see them get E-bladed in Soulbound. They actually
will get one shot if I double-o. He's bobbling. He's trying to bobble.
I think he can bobble a lot more now. I think he can bobble a lot more.
18 and 90. I think a bonus available right now.
80 and 90 are up. He just refreshed her. A heart. Mira's like screw it.
He survived.
There we go. On the hook, Blink. Mira. No longer needs to worry about it.
It was a good time to have to worry.
If he gets to the zero second cooldown, I'm gonna need to worry.
Oh, Mikoto got to the recovery's right here.
He just walked back out, nobody ever picked it up.
Oh, nobody cared.
Nobody ever stood up.
Yeah, it's just a right here on the floor.
We don't care about the right here.
Here we go, the heart, the regen.
Well, he's in the Wind Waker.
We'll keep him to the full.
Okay, they're adapting.
They're pivoting.
And the only thing is off some of the zero second cooldown.
Man is gonna be a problem.
And I don't really think there's actually a...
Why don't you sit in the fountain?
What am I about?
What kind of mana regen do you have when you're in the fountain, and how high is it?
It's not enough to just completely spam.
Okay.
But he'll be able to...
I love to keep track on that number when he gets...
What he can do is, like, move octurine at some point, or move refresher, and then just...
Right, just need refresher, and you just infinitely mango.
Or you buy as many mangoes as possible, and you just flam the mangoes, and you go...
Oh, you spammed my mango, oh, spammed my mango, oh.
I think I get to this point, the game's just...
Then...
The door to breaks.
This is insane.
I'm in at this point, I hope we get there.
I hope we get there.
And I'm sure Thailand he wants to get there as well. He knows
Where this road of bobbling leads and it's a glorious place
Any different neutrals, what did he get on the code? Oh, he still has this great regalia
He did not get a
What's your challenge with Asian frostbin golem? It can't keep up
Honestly just these ems a switch out the hum of the overall from his invention that dies right now it works
Does it persist?
No, I think it's a base. It persists. It persists. Absolutely. Wait, how is that balance? It's always on this. Okay. I thought they'd nerf that
Get back toward it. Here we go. Oh, these are coming back up
He's almost got the next bubble nearly the next ball
Does anyone else get into ballball as much now everybody else is unboreballed right? He's the only ball baller
Two, three buybacks on cooldown.
Another ball ball.
So let's see if they do look to go for a play when those are on cooldown and another ball
ball.
41 with the creep, he's down to 35 seconds.
He's got a ball ball.
He's got a 7.2 to be precise.
Yes, he's got a ball ball.
So Andy Boyn basically in about 146 region.
Say you're right, you're going to have to play with sort of spamming mangos when he gets
them.
Yeah.
He can't move again now.
Oh, and damage.
He wants it.
Tyler said give me that.
Well, Mirro's got a heart though, so Mirro's prepared for this.
Okay, how much damage does this do? Okay, it says 1,400, but who knows how much it actually is.
Yeah, the numbers are kind of broken a little bit.
Yeah, they're starting to not work entirely here. He doesn't have 90% spell and so the number does look appropriate right now.
Okay, I think he kicked off a fight and just double ult and even with the heart,
Mira very likely to dive anything else that's close in.
Oh, he must try to get out of the other load as well.
Or it doesn't start crack from two different peoples.
No.
It's almost been golden, right? It's just one aura.
wall mirror he's gonna be fine the base though push is coming in banner is down
I thought I'd be able to grab the other one.
Nice glass.
You might get the one, since the age has gone.
You can go from round two, because he's going to come to the end here for WS.
They have to use the fortification.
They're killing off Whisper.
They're going.
Whisper's dead, but WS will die every turn.
Whisper comes in with a buyback, now it's full dealing with you, but the one that's
going to kill you is the WS.
They're killing off Whisper, they're killing Whisper's death but WS will die in return.
Whisper comes in with a 5-8-9 fall deal with you but the ones with the Zootots come out.
It's Makoto, dead, better or gone.
Three of them dead with our five agents exposed, LGD!
It is! It's a game!
I'm with that, take the series here!
Game 3 ending 111 minutes in, LGD finally!
Able to knock Aurora out of the competition here at Blastime 7.
I think we said Bobble longer than this game length was probably more than 111 times, but it was the Bobble
I have to say Ty Lung played the same
This was probably one of the best news performances regardless of all this craziness that got to the later stages
The way that he was able to just dance in and out of the fights over and over again
He ends with 275,000 damage dealt. The next highest is I'm just doing some quick math
90, so 60 to 600, playing 160, 90, 90.
Yeah, he did more damage than the entirety of Aurora combined.
By 80,000.
This is so hip.
That is absolutely ridiculous.
But overall, the play from them, keeping him alive,
some of these mistakes from Aurora, perhaps, you know,
not getting into the back lines, walking up some of these high
grounds, way earlier on, it hurt them to get to this point.
But yeah, and Tylon.
And the draft as well.
It seemed pretty suited for a crazy game like this,
just the fact that they had these late game hard lockdowns,
Soulbinds, GRIPS, RAWS, it was so hard to play to despite all these lotuses, all these linkers that they were buying.
I mean, actually, to be fair, at the end of the game, nobody really wanted to have a lotuses.
Honestly, maybe they kind of missed out on the lotuses because the lotuses were doing a lot of them for them in the mid-game.
Who knows?
Everyone was kind of like, what's 110 minutes in? I don't want to have a lotuses in my inventory.
Maybe they needed a keep up.
Maybe. I mean, the game just got way too crazy.
We're getting way too complicated as overall.
LGD.
Crazy puts.
absolutely absolutely and it's just doing it in their style he didn't always
that's the way they hung them in early in the draft with a game to a game I can't
remember this is so long ago right it's game to right to game to they came in
with something different and then game three again showing us it's very very
fun style of play and yeah Rora not quite able to do it here as last few
fights one misstep and everything falls apart so fast especially after you use
those cooldowns on the buybacks.
I mean for 20 minutes or so it felt like they were walking to the fight and two heroes
would almost instantly die from the Zeus ults.
Overall yeah, Tyla.
He knew the build.
He played first.
He's done it before.
I was going to say, I feel like Tyla's probably been in one of these situations before on
the Zeus with how chill he felt and how much.
How good he was at the bobble.
Insane.
There we go.
Ladies and gentlemen, LGD.
Take the win in 2-1 against Aurora.
LBD somehow they're always evading elimination and in such fashion as well you may be joining us
I'm gonna say you guys have a 100% success rate on finishing games at exactly 111 minutes. Was it?
Yes
Did we break it or the same?
It was 111, let's just say some endings. It's pretty much the same same same bullpock
I think apparently you missed it by nine seconds
So yeah, now you've been a part of two of the longest Blossom games ever
And both of them being 111 and both of them going your way. Yeah, it feels good
How are you actually feeling there because it feels like a mix of adrenaline
Exhaustion as well as a relief. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I just feel great. I'm really glad we won
I'm glad that we told like we were I was like asking a minute 60 fuck should I keep the sorry?
I didn't like the tear for item and then we said yeah
Like you should keep this game is gonna keep on going and then he kept it
And he had all 10 refresh every 40 seconds or something like this and it could have kept on going
So I'm glad we did we made that decision
Yeah, I was curious if y'all because we were watching the game and the
Tylan was all thing from base a like all thing and indecing from base a lot
And we were saying that we thought he should run down the side like you should ward and he just runs down the sidelines and ultra farms
Because he was going back to base to keep all thing
I was wondering if y'all saw that or talked about it or like what the the situation the comms were around it
I think what do you mean? Sorry like to speed up the ball?
Yeah, so he would run up to the top-edge camps and he would farm like a couple and then he would go back to base and
Ult and Nimbus and wait for his mana to regen. There were like, I don't know,
it was like seven camps or something for a minute that weren't getting farmed.
I don't know, I think he just...
I don't know, like, yeah, if you own we won, I don't know, like maybe we'll talk about it and we'll figure it out next time, yeah.
I was just wondering, because you guys have a lot of like crazy games, right? We just had like two times, hundred plus minutes.
Do you think, like, what's the element? Do you think it has more to do with you?
Is it like the enemies? Is it RNG of like it all coming together?
You asked all the hard questions after such a long note again.
It's fine, it's fine.
I mean, I think, like, to be honest, we have a lot of PTSD when it comes to high ground
and throwing and stuff, so I think that's why sometimes games tend to last longer than
they should, because we, like, we don't mind, like we, and I've personally thrown so many
games with the team that we don't mind just waiting five minutes in the late game, you
know, it's like, it won't change, like, yeah, like no risk, right, let's say.
So I think it has to do with that. I think the heroes were picking as well.
Yeah, that would make sense.
I think also you guys are a very improved team, but you also have very good wins and
sometimes you have some losses that maybe, I don't know if saying they hurt a lot is
the right way to say, but I was just wondering if you guys have something specific that you
focused on lately in some of the pool scheme talks.
I mean in the last two or three tournaments, without counting Dream League, we kept getting
eliminated losing to ourselves kind of and so it was like as it was a lot of
mentality I think like our our biggest issue was mentality like we would get
frustrated or we would stop believing in things like too fast if it wouldn't it
would work for the whole tournament and then we would lose a game like stomp
because of XY reason and we would give up too fast now we're not doing that we're
improving on that and I think we also like in my opinion when we get our early
I think we will just win the game against any team because we had a good
We have a pretty good idea on how to close games from ahead. Let's say you're talking about mentality change
I mean game one was really rough for you guys. I mean Aurora if you can even remember that far back by the way
And so I was actually really concerned about how you guys would approach game number two because you're talking about it
You do have a track record of having a shaky mentality as as a roster
And so what happens in that conversation?
Is there a certain person that's trying to calm the team down a little bit more,
trying to bring the energy up, or is it a big group effort?
I mean, I think I did a good job this time around.
Like, we were a bit frustrated, but we also knew, I think, our draft,
like, not blaming it on him.
Like, we made decisions in the draft together,
but we had a really tough draft to execute, in my opinion.
Like, it was a horrible Sniper game, but we had Sniper 24.
So yeah, yeah.
He liked it.
Yeah, I liked it.
He liked it really.
I mean, Fort Laney was good, but after like...
I did, I was hooked before, so it's okay.
It happened.
And I do have one more last question.
I know that it's been a long series and you guys have tomorrow as well, but this fan is
what I really wanted to ask about.
It coming out here, is there something that prompted you to pick it?
Was it just a good game?
Was it a little bit about the D patch buff that it got to?
Or...
I mean, I liked the hero and I think that it was underpicked even in the previous patch.
He did get buffed and I played the pub today and I also played against the Largo
I was like, I'm just good against it and I like the hero a lot
So I thought it was a good game, went for it and I'm glad that they listened and we went for it
I have a last easy question
How OP is the 20 talent on bench, the right one, where you steal the damage and the armor because that one reads like it's really fucking strong
It is very strong like I mean I don't remember numbers in the game, but if I hit the tiny and
and win together all type like plus 200 damage from just a spell I think.
You're like 1200 damage.
Yeah, you like two shot the Largo at the end of the game.
You've never seen them before.
I think Venge is very strong, I think.
Yeah, it's good.
He's very strong.
I want to ask so much more about the Venge, but I know that you're still in the tournament.
No one can give me that.
You've got a lot of worlds.
I was going to say, it's also been long, so thank you so much.
Congratulations. We'll see you tomorrow as well, alright?
Thank you very much.
Good night.
You too.
We'll let him go and join his team because they have to still rest.
to do a lot of prep, but the
players are going to want to do
that for themselves because now
they've seen themselves really
fight tooth and nail to get that
ticket to a Sunday showing for
themselves. They're going to be
going up against Beppin in the
lower bracket tomorrow. I mean,
this is honestly crazy. Like I
think also all the other things
aside like you know that you can
do it when you went to like
clownfest games like this that go
over 100 minutes like what can
stop you at the end? You know,
just go into the game, have some
fun, pick some stuff, and I will
say this enchanted bubble stuff.
I haven't seen it ever like this
like this. They were about to get an auto win eventually. It is kind of mad. Yeah, let's bring
up the Zeus. I think we have some of the stats that we want to quickly mention about it because
the Zeus, Quinn, bit of a confirmed hater before this one, but it feels like when you get the
right concoction of... It goes 110 minutes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And you have a chance
as Bulbul. Yeah, I mean, it's literally a default win eventually. The cooldown slowly
keeps ticking down to zero when it hits zero. Well, the game's over. He just presses R like this
until your Throne explodes, so...
It is kind of mad.
He had 200, what, 75,000 Hero Damage and like the longer...
Like, eventually the game only, like he will farm Hero Damage
until the enemy team calls GG, because they can't beat it.
By the way, that damage output beat the record,
the whole-time record, in a single game.
Yeah, I'm not so confident.
Yeah, he literally just presses R over and over and over again
and then the game ends, and he can't stop him.
Like, at like 100 minutes, I think it's just a matter of time
until it's over, they can't do anything.
No, it's actually amazing, like...
How rough it must be to be on the receiving end of what feels like an infinite ultimate from Zeus.
Poor Aurora having to go up against that one and ultimately see elimination and their journey in Slam 7 empty-up.
Yeah, it's uh, I mean...
I'm lucky really.
That's this thing.
You're trying to have yourself alone and there's this shit running in the background.
I mean it just feels like you're on the wrong side of the patch.
Like you're getting like the one thing abused against you that is like immediately getting you on.
But the thing is this hasn't happened before and the bubble it's been in the game at least for a while
But seeing it like this more people should at least at tier 4 when you get in you're like this could be a long game
You take that stuff. Yeah, you take it and you're wrong with it
There's even a 1% chance that it's going 111 minutes
Well, you better hope that you're not going up against LGD because Aurora now out of Blast slam 7 we caught up with mirror just before he left
I'm here with mirror who just came out of one of the longest and craziest games that we've had here at Blast and
And it's rough that you came out on the losing end of it, but it was a spectacular thing to see.
I will say it did seem a little rougher in your end as a hoodwink being hunted by Zeus.
I mean, how was that late game for you?
I mean, it's boring to play this daughter and push lanes with distance and just wait and just spam like this.
I mean, it's like Ultis. It's like broken, that he can farm and wait for the next buff on his natural and have this CDR.
I mean, maybe it's fun for them to play, but it's not Dota. We cannot fight and see who is stronger. It's like whatever happens.
I'm in one game. So, it's fine.
It did seem really rough. Was there like something that you found hard to get over in the mid-game, to kind of stop the game before it reached that point?
I mean, we had, I mean like lead, I think something, like around 15k, I mean at 40, but we made just bad jump, like near their base.
their base we lost like four heroes and then like to buy backs and rush and this kind of
the moment that they just like got like they are like time to farm and like play
and like this way so it's kind of I mean like a very fault that we like let them to like to like
scale to this match. There were mistakes it is rough but again it was for fans it was fun for us to
watch and we were ruined for you to just give us the best that you could and you did. It's now
three months until TI. How are you guys looking to move forward from here? Do you have anything
else you'd like to say to the fans who have been ruined for you? I think that we're going to
let me rest now. We're kind of tired. We had four events in a row so now we're going to put a
the sea, just chill a bit, like sea in the beach, and chill for like two weeks, and then
we're going to play more. I think we're going to win like something, like later this summer,
maybe like TI. It would be good for me if we win like one more TI. So yeah, thank you
for supporting, and we will try.
Thank you very much. Thanks for your time here at Blast, and I hope you enjoy that break,
best of luck in the future. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, mirror especially I feel for
because that poor hoodwink was at the receiving and so many times of the
zoo's going back to base, double alting, double nimbus as well and he's like
T-brake guys, please, surely we could just have a little bit of a pause there
but they have had such a slaughter and a marathon of the last four weeks alone.
They made it the distance when it went to dreamling which was just before this
when that went two weeks and then you have to come in slam 7 and they almost make it to the finish line as well here but
Just one day shy of making it all the way on both tournaments back to back. It's it's tough
But this team is incredibly good
I think it was a very well-spoken interview like not just saying you know it happens
We had to go up against this but it's also our fault. We messed up the game earlier
It shouldn't really have gotten there and like GGs to them. It's just an incredibly likable player
It's a great team and honestly overall still a great performance
Yeah, I also like there's a comment near the end where he doesn't say I hope we want to turn him later
I think we're going to I like that and I also people forget this guy's two rings
Like if he says another ti for a reason the guy won ti twice
I was a recipient of one of those so he is the guy is a beast and he's also just a really like chill nice guy
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything negative about him
So I think it's hard to not root for this team and also for him specifically
He's just he's just a really nice guy who's really good at the game
Yeah, I think this is might have been one of the toughest elimination matches
We have considering how likeable both teams are but also the level of Dota that they're bringing
It feels like the last few days every highlight we've had of each day has been the best of threes
We've seen them playing and LGD will continue on in fact that playing tomorrow
They might even make it to the grand finals
But what stands between them and that opportunity is of course that boom so that's gonna be our lower bracket tomorrow
A lot of fun to look forward to when we when we do get that
Yeah, definitely will be this is this is a spicy one
I think that boom they they definitely got trounced by Yannick's and I'll play it I think today
So it's a question of how do you recover and how does LGD recover after this game even though they won?
I think they need to recover from it playing back-to-back, especially to the lower right can really drain you
And so to me this is a test of both teams of resilience of going through a tournament like this
Yeah, for sure
I think just like the the fatigue alone because with this skill now like you know that you can do it
You know all these crazy games that you have it just it makes you feel good
It gives you the confidence and I just like that every player they're very open about like the things they do well
But also the things they do wrong like even human just now
It's like, you know, the draft here and we've been needing to improve on this and we have improved and going into tomorrow
We need to rest and it's like we just wake up see how it works because yeah, they they need this rest
Yeah, the craziest part about it is what has been a little bit unconventional when Bebham did lose that earlier
Upper bracket final we still got to hear words from me or that's something that we don't normally get to do
And so when you come into tomorrow
There's a little bit of information to gather for the side of LGD if they go back and watch that
But besides for bedroom as well to get to listen to what humor was talking about and their progression
So I feel like we're gonna have another high school matchup tomorrow when it when does arrive
Well, we already got it today
We're gonna get it like with these things say anything is that you don't really know what's gonna happen
It might just be like a crazy clown show. Yeah, I'll see you go and give it to you. That's for sure
Well, I appreciate you guys ticking by me and what has been such a long day also you guys at home
We're going to have a Lollabracket final tomorrow as well as a grand final first time for a blast slam
So games are starting at 11 a.m.
Make sure you guys are seated for a lot of fun when asked Sunday comes a rat
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