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return with the AoE Doom now right on top of GPK again with the stun coming out from DM.
Rosh actually takes part in killing off GPK. Now he with a blink overgrowth,
Sunstrike gonna clip GPK. They burst down Kat'sa homie, not tanky at all at this stage of the game.
DM at Watson as he goes for a final rampage so we get back to back rampages for each respective
The game's far, far, far away.
Call coming in.
I knew Jack the Slap had looked up on GoFriKerRatage.
Now in Malady, people go by safe way.
They cannot deal with this fucking tree.
Just pound the end of that with a tree trunk.
So they just shitting on them with the vine rate we are taking.
And the end next will go for the Grand Final.
The opening.
The call comes in.
You've been living in the beginning of the God Street Four Terms.
The call is gone.
Let the court from King Jungles try and chase him here
He can be come to it and it all gets on to him
But they've been both so bound to fight the other court
The silence is what is the court
There's Makoto's out for two minutes
Jan has gone back to the Man of Heels and sustained
Now to be given the beginning is coming to it
It's not the court but it's on them
They thought that someone could reflect it
They're the three script, those are two three script
They're the ones that took from them the big courts
The court most days they take no form out
Makoto's in trouble
I'll face be trying to heal up in the pit.
Link is still on him.
Jump forward aggressively here.
When the cramp stroke of the front corners is in on to WS, they're taking down the frog.
They put the lock down onto Makano.
You must cut the damage through free Makano.
Cut her carefully, carefully, carefully.
I thought it was my Nautilus.
You shot him.
The raping of the fog.
On the off-wisper, they're going.
Wisp is dead, but WS will die every time.
Wisp becomes a bit of a 5-9-fold feeling with you at the once.
But the solution that's come out is Makano dead Miragod.
We're gonna take that one out, but our agents expose our GD!
Yes, again!
It's the final day of Blast Land 7, our grand final day, as well as our low bracket final.
first time that we're having that in Blastland because normally we've been running a single
elimination but this time around double elimination has given a lot of teams the chance to prove
themselves to make a pretty good run and of course the other three people proven themselves today
it's kezu, Quinn and T. It's time to prove yourself. I had bread and butter for breakfast. No, I was going to do the same thing, I actually had no breakfast, no Quinn, that's my issue, no bad deal.
I'm doing great, I'm doing great, Dota is going to be great. But you're for breakfast?
Nothing, no same like you did a great video. I'm not looking at you. Oh, I did have a watermelon. He's right
Oh, he brought me watermelon and grapes water. I had one bite of watermelon
That's the plate on the side didn't interview come back and it disappeared
So if anyone's got a half eaten watermelon in the studio, that's mine. Can you please leave it back in there by the intro
That should see what happens
I don't even know where to go from that one and we're gonna look at the bracket because somehow I really genuinely couldn't take away from that
the last four days. I had
three days of action today,
being our fourth for the
playoffs with what started
off 16s in the upper bracket.
We did see both Aurora and
liquid drop down to that low
bracket. LGD and Falcons were
soon to follow where we ended
up seeing LGD and Aurora have
to go up against each other
last night in a three game
absolute banger. It was a lot
of fun. LGD did end up coming
out on top in another 100
on top in another 111 minute game for themselves.
So they see their opponent of bat boom today
in the lower bracket.
And the index, well, they're chilling.
They don't have to come in until later
where they get to just wait for their opponent
in the grand final.
They're kind of the lucky ones.
You know, you have all these long games,
they just get to chill.
But also, like, I thought Aurora would probably
make it to this overall last day.
But then yesterday, they go up against this clown show
of the Dota game where you have the baubles,
you have like the near two hour game against the Thailand
Zeus.
Sometimes, you just take the L.
I want them to play for the Zeus. Honestly. I know it's not strategically smart or you know, like today
Yeah, yeah, I want them to like pick Zeus and in the back there
My nose that they're playing for this like 70 minute eighth minute
Of course is a bit of RNG with a bubble
But conceptually it does sound like auto win if you can get that at minute mark because how do you deal with just
Like that's not donor anymore, right? So I probably not gonna see it again, but I really do yeah
I think I was these they've got a certain special magic going right now
I think sometimes you sometimes you just squeak through games randomly. It just happens that you just you just win somehow
And maybe you weren't supposed to or but you just do and so I think they had that going right now
And so I'm just excited to see if they can keep it going because I think lower bracket runs are some of the most fun in Dota
There is a special skill set to be able to push games that late as well
What it feels like your opponents had so many opportunities and LGD well
They've done it a couple of times for themselves
So they've actually got a very unique 100% win rate on games that close out at exactly on the 111 minute mark there for themselves.
But the game duration, 52 minutes essentially for them compared to the 47 of Yandex and the 45 of Bethlehem.
I mean, not only like that, it's like out of the top four longest games in the tournament, LGD have been part of three of them, right?
So it's like, we have the 211 minutes, they've had like a 72 minute, like they are the ones creating these long games for good or for bad again.
I don't know how, and you want us to go, but in the sake of the tournament they are the ones creating, you know, the cinema and the moments that everyone's going to remember.
You even heard, you might talk about it yesterday, he's like, we have PTSD from Sangyeon's going hard on, he has thrown games, they have thrown games, so that just leads to sometimes games are going to get stalled out, you're going to play for some other stuff, you're hoping that finally eventually someone will be like, we've got the confidence, let's get this ages, we can do this, we can end, but it looks like, just take it very chill.
I wonder if that eventually bites you against, you know, now it's not just the bigger dogs.
It's the biggest dogs.
You're in the hound hut, I don't know what I'm saying.
Yeah, I do think it does though, because when he was standing there, he's saying, we don't
mind waiting another five minutes or so, but if you're looking at the other side of
Aurora, waiting that extra five minutes was their hindrance.
They took a little bit too long, and they were a little too stale and slow to be reactive
to what LGD were doing, and they end up with the loss.
So sometimes five minutes give or take, Clint, could be that window closes for you to close
out a game.
Yeah, every second matters, especially against, like you said, the best teams.
They will, they will eke out little advantages, little things here and there, and suddenly
the game switches, and it's hard to predict or fully understand all those things that
are changing.
No one player is capable of doing that, and so the best thing you can do is actually
push your lead to the fullest extent.
And not doing that implies inherent risk.
You're adding an element of the potential to turn into the game.
Yeah, it's also so easy, I think, as a viewer to kind of look at a late game or even like
of 50, 60 million markings. Why aren't they doing this? But it's like, you're managing
brochant respawn, cooldowns, item cooldowns, spell cooldowns, you've got a spell, buyback
and exactly like how they use it. Do you think they have gold? Has their inventory changed?
Like there's all these factors. And as the game progresses, the intensity of one death
and new game is over, scale. So it's like, you cannot assume that the players will be
perfect. And you see so many mistakes in the late game, because there's all like so much
information getting pressed onto them. It's why it's like, it is such a magical point
at the game because the pro isn't the best player anymore. He is just kind of a human
and having to survive what is a 70 minute Dota game.
The beauty of the game also is that I think Dota,
especially at the highest level,
it keeps reminding you that you need to be present
in the moment and you need to check literally everything.
If there's no bobble on the Zeus, maybe you can chill
and it's totally okay to play the game like that.
But if you pay attention and it's like,
the number keeps ticking up and you're looking at it,
you're like, eventually you need to go actually,
we need to do something.
Like there's some all in move you have to try to do,
you have to smoke on him or just like speed up the game
because the timer is ultimately fully against you.
And if you don't pay attention to it,
you're just gonna take the L for free.
And that's not to say they didn't do that.
There were definitely attempts,
but it was that clown fiesta that you coined there.
Betboom, on the other hand,
they're having a little bit of a cleaner time.
Yes, they're in that lower bracket,
but again, they also pushed Yandex
in the upper bracket to the upper limits, right?
They also went to a game three in their series there.
So it's only just by a mere margin, again,
that we're seeing Betboom lose out on a series
and potentially not make it to a grand finals.
If anything, I'm surprised that they aren't the ones
directly seeded into the Grand Finals.
I think throughout this tournament,
they've been a lot of teams' strongest team,
yeah, and again, next to Beacon Farron Square,
but they are a fierce opponent to deal with,
and so I think they are the favorites going
into the series against LGD.
I think they're more solid,
and they're just, they have better fundamentals,
a better foundation, and I think LGD's coming at them
with like, ooh, crazy wab, throwing stuff in the air,
look at that, and I think it's not easy
to win a game that way whenever the other team
is just staunchly moving forward one step at a time.
Yeah, it's also like the idea of like,
When you look at LGD how they demolished the game to yesterday, it was like laning pressure, map pressure, you had Axe running around doing this stuff against BB.
They're not going to have these cracks in their drafts, they're not going to have these moments of like, oh wow, your supports will obliterate it.
That's like, Katomian save, they are so resilient to aggression and to map move, but even in difficult games they'll find ways to look like they're controlling the tempo.
So it's like, LGD need to play like they did yesterday, but like X10, they need to really make sure there's not a single mistake in the first 20 minutes against this team.
No, like, BB, they looked really, really strong yesterday.
Like, even if they ended up losing the series overall to Yandex,
I think, apart from GPK, he had some chungus moments on his conqueror.
It's like, X mark, he doesn't even taunt, he's just like,
that arrow's gonna hit, okay, three miss kills.
Then he goes top tier one, he like misses his X taunt, both combo, you know?
It's okay, it happens, but overall, I agree,
they are the favorites going into the series for me,
by like, at least, maybe some 60-40 type-ish.
But we just got a hope for LGD, because one of the hurdles that they have is,
they have at least one weird draft per series.
And not just weird, but like, throw it out the window type draft.
So I hope that today, I want it to be more stable.
We can look towards our grand finalists as well though, Yandex.
We want to talk about them too, because Quinn, you said you thought
Betman was going to be the team that was seeded straight into grand finals.
You thought maybe we would have been having a different matchup in the lower bracket here.
But Yandex, after taking an event break, all these questions,
how are they going to come into it?
Will this break hinder them and will it benefit them?
I mean, making it to a grand final, being the first team to look at a grand final.
clearly that that break was not a hindrance by any means. No, it definitely wasn't. I think they took the
Dota after the break very seriously straight into bootcamp and grinding including working hard watching replays
and I think they have a slightly different style from these other teams in that they are playing slightly longer games, but they're picking really good scaling
And so it's not a happening into the later game or a whoops accidentally. It's gone late
They're they're intending that they're picking heroes that aren't as good early that play a little slower and they're scaling insanely well with amazing team fighting
And so I think it's a different approach, and it's a tough final boss to be especially a grand final if they're doing that,
because games tend to go longer in a final, and if they're comfortable there, if they're picking the draft for that,
then it's not easy to overcome that.
I mean, it's also like they've introduced heroes into the drafts, it's like Nature's Prophet.
Again, Watson has played it before, in the tournament he hadn't, and then suddenly in upper bracket,
he's like completely demolishing a game on it, and now it's like, in the back of your mind, it's like,
okay, we have to respect his TA, one of the few players who's still playing it.
Now there's Nature's Prophet, like the drafts in the finals might even just attach themselves from the entire meta of the entire tournament,
based on how many little specialty heroes teams like Yandex are kind of introducing even in the final couple days.
Unfortunately, they have a bit of like the thunder of like a few years ago.
Like the map just turns into like a toxic wasteland.
There's like Invoker-Forgefort running around.
You have like Nagasir and Nature's Prophet, like even the Enigma of DM.
That's just like, it's very difficult, I think, to close out the map against the team in the midgame.
So like we're saying with the scaling that they have on their side as well,
you need to find a nice way to like kind of deal with that,
but also feel good if the game does drag out that you have a chance against them later on.
It's not the first time that we're seeing Yannick's in a Grand Final for BlastLam, right?
They were also there for Chengdu coming up against Tundra, and so I do wonder when we do get to our Grand Finals,
is it going to be a little bit different because now this team has spent a lot more time with each other?
They've also grown individually at players. CJ is the biggest one that we've spoken about a number of times.
They've changed their off-laner since then, and more importantly, the fact that we're not in front of a Kradia,
we're on LAN and we're in a studio, but maybe part of those nerves as well.
I factor all these things into what sort of Yannick shows up later today.
They've evolved a lot.
Like this team, I don't think they're going to have any stress.
Even if there was a huge crowd here, I think at the moment,
they've gone to the stage where they don't really care about it and they've got it.
Yeah, I also think the opponent they're going up against will be very different.
I think playing either one of these teams is somehow lower stressed than playing against Tundra.
I think that team, especially in finals, has a certain aura to them.
They're very difficult to beat.
Both of these teams to me, I think, I don't think Yannick has any fear
or any feelings of like, we're the underdog.
and I think that feeling may hurt them specifically.
I think them going into this feeling like we are the top dog,
we are better than these teams.
I think that confidence is important for this team,
especially we've seen like shaky finals performances before
like CJ, he's improved a lot.
We've seen the shakiness in finals
and so I think the fact they're coming in more favorites
is a boon to them.
Talking about, you know, who could potentially go up
against Yandex, LGD or Bet Boom Tee,
that's the low bracket finals that we're gonna start on,
we're having to talk about here.
And we already heard a little bit from Quinn and Kezah
where they think their favorites might be standing in it,
But yourself, do you have a little bit more of a lean towards LGD and their funky drafts
or the stability of Beppin?
I mean, the head says, you know, BB should be in the finals, but the heart.
LGD, baby.
There it is.
LGD Gaming.
LGD.
That's what I don't really show much bias, normally, on a panel.
I normally like to say financial.
But right now, in this very moment, when you think about the trajectory of a team over the
year, the asterisks on there, you know, the tournament that they did win, was it tier
was it tier two? Did the teams leave because of these issues? You know, Astros, I want them to stamp their name into this year with a good old honest, we won it, we beat the best.
There are no questions and then they move to TI. Sure, they're on the Chinese organization, but still waving the flag for South America. I thought it would just be quite a nice way to enter the most important part of the season.
Getting a non-European team, lifting a trophy.
I mean, we literally had LGD on the last day of groups go from oh, maybe they might have to play best of threes to qualify to top the group
So it's very well within that wheelhouse to go from a team that we think might finish third place to lifting that trophy
But bedroom stand in that way right now. Kezu. Yeah, it's just I think it's a bit difficult for them
But I do like LGD as a team because they they give you a lot
I think especially as a viewer like you don't know exactly, you know
What is going to show up which type of team because I said it before but I think their highs are really high
But their lows holy damn it's way below most other teams because you know
There's might be like some play or overall like how they shape up and then the draft that they end up with
And maybe it's a bit boring to hear but it is sadly the truth for the team
It is something they have to overcome and you're in the final day
So you have to really bring your a game both when it comes to the gameplay, but also the lineup you end up with
Yeah offering up like little I don't know inequities in your draft and little problems like the better teams will take advantage
you end up going from a game that's maybe 60-40 to now suddenly it's 90-10 and you end up with like the game once.
And I agree that it's kind of one game a series that they totally flub.
And so to me, you got to cut that out because you can't be handed away free games, especially against the best teams.
They're just not going to give you it back the other way, especially whenever the pick order matters and side and all these choices and things.
If you give a free win away on either your good side or like it can really matter.
And so they have to not do this because it's a problem.
it's a problem. But luckily it's like for LGD, it's always the game one, right? It's like, you know,
you had the triple midi bros into the draw, you had like the techies first looking to learn,
you're like, there's been both game ones against Aurora and Yandex were the problem for them,
right? So all you need to do is you do all your prep in the evening, you come to the studio,
and then one player just grabs page one of the notebook from the draft. That's gone, page one
out. You usually go up there, T, and do it for them. It's gone, then you look at page two,
and then you start to be competitive again. So whatever's on page one, I just hope they're not
looking at it because everything else is kind of cool. They have adaptations and they show the
better side. But again, a team that's this creative, you want to love them for being creative because
other teams, they're often quite boring. They stick to this small hero pool. This team isn't.
So it's like when they do poorly, it's so easy to blame it on the draft, which again,
based on some games, it is very, is the reason why. But you have to kind of accept that you are
going to get both sides of the spectrum in a team that is trying to be different to everyone else.
It's a double-edged sword with that because when they come in and they end a series like yesterday on such a high, you think, okay, they want to continue the creativity, they want to be able to feel themselves, and then they get jumped down a peg.
But you misspoken about how they've been working on that a lot more. You know, having a bit more faith in their heroes as well, that was something he really, really wanted to talk about is their creativity and also their avenues that they're playing through different heroes.
It's absolutely where you should stick to it like also the stats speak for itself like whisper a bad writer
It's four and one yesterday. They busted out two games of cream stroke
It's two and no the bench on humor looked incredible did get buffed
You know it was very nice
And I think this is how this team thrives even the the axe that they flexed in the game too
That was one of like their better games where they stormed the bedroom like into oblivion as well
So I think keep you know going with that. It's it's amazing. I totally agree and I also think when I watch them
I watched the B-Rail of them coming to the stadium and stuff.
I look at Ty Lung especially, and a lot of these players, they're very young,
but Ty Lung is a kid.
And so I think, and you can very much tell that.
And so I think it's really cool.
Same way when you think back to Sumail and the early EG days,
it's just cool to watch someone who's so young and has not had these experiences before.
And it's hard to not root for him, because he's just a little kid.
And so I think it's really cool to watch that and see plays we've had way more experience
to compare to someone who's trying to win the tournament for their first time,
I think is a very cool dynamic.
The biggest difference between the plays you're mentioning and Tylong is the fact that we don't really get to hear from Tylong that often.
In fact, we know very little about him, so we seized the moment.
We had their assistant coach translate for us, and we tried to get as much information out of Tylong as we could.
I'm here with Tylong and the assistant coach for LGD, and we're going to do a little interview.
Can't wait to hear your thoughts, because you played a very fun Zeus game last night, and I would like to know how that felt for you.
You played there and it was a great game for you. How did you feel? How was your feeling?
It was fun. I wanted to play more to put an infinite amount of points in the game, but we played sooner.
than farming more bobble upgrades? Like why didn't you just go for the 0% cooldown?
He didn't have mana. The upgrade also has more mana cost on his spell,
so he didn't have mana to farm the entire map. That's why he's going base.
He gives you less money, but he gives you less hands.
You have a glass of water, but you use marmanna, so he needs to go base more often.
Ah, that makes sense, okay.
Well, obviously that was a very long game, and you guys tend to have long games.
You know, how are you feeling about today? You've got a lot of energy.
Are you ready to take the trophy home?
How are you feeling? Our games have always lasted long.
How are you feeling? Your energy is ready to win everything.
I'm feeling good. I think I'm going to play a good game today and not win.
I feel he did his best yesterday and he feels very well and he's really...
Yeah, go win. Let's win.
Man, I feel like if I was playing in elimination at game number three
and I did the all-time record of hero damage in a competitive game.
I'd be feeling pretty fucking good too.
Yeah, he's chilling right now.
Do you have any good games yesterday?
Brawl setting records being one of the youngest players ever to play on stage?
Yeah, you're feeling good coming into today.
I love the fact that even with the hero damage,
they had to change how they format their numbers just to fit it on the screen, right?
Yeah.
If you put six-digit digits, it's going to be off the graphic, right?
And I mean, yeah, Tai-Lung, of course,
because I've been trying to bubble close.
Oh, great. Okay, this is what I mean.
You see how ugly it is? It goes over the little pink ruin.
It's terrible.
I mean, no one in Blast would ever want to show this on broadcast.
So whoever just did, they're gone.
Holy shit, they got fired.
Yeah, they did.
Immediately.
Go back to your coin.
Well, you know, it's not getting fired.
Is that these guys?
They're getting fired up.
That's right.
They're getting fired up.
And we talk about LGD, the inexperience that they really
want that went back when Ben here before.
They've won tournaments before.
These guys have been around the block for a long time.
They've been at pretty much every tier one tournament
I can remember for the last several years,
and they are just incredibly solid players.
That's the thing you feel the most when you play against them
is there's just, they just don't really make mistakes.
And so you need to strategize,
and you need to understand the game better.
You need to squeeze really tiny opportunities
and slowly build an advantage,
because they're just not gonna give you this,
oh, and suddenly you, oh, they threw the game,
and they fed a bunch of heroes,
and now you're ahead of a bunch of gold.
That doesn't happen.
You need to win the game very incrementally,
one little good move at a time,
and that is just a much harder way to win the game
than the enemy all chained to his inner feats.
Especially to, I think, against Beto,
you need to be very aware of both their supports.
They can't tell me safe, but also GPK,
like how the three of them interact together.
And the LGD, they need the stableness
in the type of early game as well, I think, for themselves.
So I hope that they have a very nice idea,
how to properly utilize Tylong with KJ,
and also with the OleCore.
What is going to be the three-on-three looking like
for the early runes, the active runes?
Because if GPK gets off to a good start,
we all know what's going to happen for the BB game.
But it's so scary, conceptually.
a team that has these kind of little fundamentals.
It's not every game, it's the same copy-paste.
You see Miro TP into mid lane on the line,
even running there.
You then have Save also rotating to bot lane
to create tri lanes,
and Miro's happy to be by himself.
It's not as if every game, it's the same formula.
They are tweaking it game to game.
So if you were in KJ who's going to go aggressive
and try and fight Miro,
be one of the most aggressive save lanes
we have now in the top three,
you are going to expect there to be these adjustments,
to have the draft or even positioning
where maybe GPK rotates earlier, probably not.
But maybe, you know, Katomi does some moves,
I think the fact is you can't just say BB does one thing every time like they are really cool at having like just a really deep playbook
They're also really smart drafters and good at adapting
I've lost finals to them before and played on one others and I think something they're very good at is changing what their bands are from game to game
They'll drop the game. Okay, they understand what the problem was you heard Miero in the loser interview after they lost the NX yesterday
Saying yeah, the invoker is kind of a problem with which next game will just ban it against them
They already understand that going into a potential finals against Yennex and they'll be able to do the same thing against LGD
You drop one game suddenly you understand all this year was really crucial and fundamental to the way they play
I think they're very quick at picking up on that they're great drafters
And I think that is part of what makes them so good at like going deep in tournaments
I mean, that's the good and bad thing about LGD is sometimes we don't even know what's fundamental to making a draft work for them
So I have a treat to know what that boom and their conclusions have been but we have from the youngest player on the side of LGD
We also wanted to hear from the youngest player on the side of that boom
Yeah, it was very fun.
And I feel like this kind of thing happens a lot with them, you know, like this infinity-scaling
Zeus with the bobble, all this like silly stuff, drops out of nowhere, versatility.
How do you prepare for a team like that?
I don't know, like when I see how Zeus is scaling, it's just, it's nothing normal.
What the fuck?
To be honest, I'm waiting to find the game and waiting when Ulti's use is out of cooldown.
It's possible. So it was fun if this game would be a bit more long.
I think you'll be a very fun series and obviously you've come a long way to get here today.
What would you say is like the one thing that you've learned throughout your Blast 7 that's going to help you take home the trophy today?
We make very good conclusions from last game versus Yandex to be honest and
We can win this tournament because we were confident in our heroes, in our players
We were very confident and we know what we need to do for win like
How's the lane, how playing map, the...
That's it.
And just for an energy check, you know, I look to your Steam profile, it's all Naruto, right?
And I respect that, I love Naruto.
What kind of character, what form of character are we going to see today?
Are we going to see Hokage level plays or what?
Hokage mode.
You're a Naruto enjoyer, right Kezu?
Of course I am.
Can anyone translate please, I have no idea what just happened.
We've been in Dota times.
I mean, Moldhoka is just like top level.
This is my boy. I'm sure like this guy's favorite character in the game is like Itachi.
It's like everyone's favorite character is like, you know, the evil young brother don't want to spoil too much.
But you should watch it. If you haven't seen Naruto, I'm sure this clown also hasn't.
I'm pointing at the wind right now.
It's life-changing shit. You gotta watch that stuff.
You know when people take a note, there used to be like the Kuroko no Baski, like the Kuroko no Baski Bob anime.
I haven't watched that one.
No, I didn't watch that one, but no people keep talking about it and it's good.
It's what made Liquid win TI.
The squad's gonna make them win today.
Okay, all right.
Now, it's gonna be the buff with that boom.
It's not the quen the confidence
that they have in their leading phase
and how to execute drafts.
No, it's all about their basketball.
Give it up.
How do I segue from this?
You should go back to the big table.
I just spoke to Katoa, didn't I?
Cause I was doing a little replay review
and I feel like when we're talking about LGD being chaotic,
I think the one thing that BB does really well
is like force out errors and force out mistakes.
Even though they didn't win game three yesterday,
they were kind of presenting that in some of the moments.
So I just wanted to hear from Kotomi
about how he was able to kind of create
these moments to threaten teams.
We really want to take the rush on top
because we have outpost, we can buy back, we can TP,
we have a really good position to fight,
we have vision up here, we have vision up there.
So we're just basically doing casual move.
We forcing rush to ROR.
So, their team start to feel pressure, they start to panic, maybe they fast smoke to the top, and then we already smoked and waiting for them.
So once you bait the raw, you're holding the high ground, kind of knowing 10 seconds later, of course you're going to go back into the pit.
You're just basically trying to make the mistakes happen.
Yeah, I mean as you can see like we but we first there are suck so on step fire already start to be feel
Nourus that we taking rush
She start to ulti just to check and we know there you already smoking we already have info that there is no step
I'll tell you
So already her advantage
So we I mean we think they smoked so because they cannot let us take rush top
We also smoke, and try to find maybe a fight, maybe they come here on our region, low ground,
and here we kill them without chance, because they don't have sniper royalty, we have over position,
and we will even fight.
I feel like that's all I really need to know how to execute teamfights in my next few games.
Well, go ahead and bait some stuff, go back and then do it again.
He makes it sound so simple, but it's not that easy, it's hard.
That's the best and the worst thing about watching pros is that they will do things so seamlessly that you think it's easy
It's just become second nature for them and then you try and attempt it
And you're like actually this is 20 times harder than I ever thought it's because most people think like the they think about the big picture
Wow team fight they win they kill five heroes
But there's like a hundred billion small steps and like the 80 seconds leading up to it which leads to the big plate
And also it's like in the interview
We didn't show up as I was like we're talking about Russian like they knew in the back of their minds that they could even do
Roshan in like seven seconds if they really wanted to so they were really trying to push the limbo like how far could they take it
What could they bait of course and that was kind of an easy example in the game because like Roshan raw
It's like it's not a high level strategy
But it with that application
They will be doing that in really really kind of high level plays elsewhere like where they show one hero on a creep wave
And then they disengage with smoke behind like they are always thinking about it and against LGD a team that makes mistakes
It just needs to be one trap that LGD kind of fall into and then BB will suddenly generate like 15,000 gold lead
right so it is about you know dodging the traps for LGD. Yeah their team fighting in the way they
start fights is very very consistent and very good they will take like really sneaky angles on you
they'll wrap around and burst one guy and they're really good at resetting like the thing T said about
their and Kat told me said as well about baiting fights and about baiting spells they're really
good at this with buybacks too they poke one guy they kill this guy and they run away and they know
that it's a numbers game they're not trying to win the game all the ones they're trying to okay now
it's a 10v9 and the next fight it's a 10v8 because we're killing you and you're buying back and we're
slowly were chilling and they're they're very very good at that and playing the
numbers game understanding the really big picture especially in the high
pressure games doing that in a pub or conceptually is one thing it's not a
super complicated concept but having the mental you know fortitude to remember
that in the moment that's the tough part and that's what they're really good at
catechomy is only half of their support duo we want to talk about save as well
because I feel like so often sometimes we look at numbers we look at stats and
it's easy to really put cores on a pedestal we get to sit down with catechomy
and talk about everything that's happening going through his mind
13 fights, but a big pinnacle in a linchpin of what has happened for Batman over many iterations
Not even just necessarily that great performance here at slam 7 is safe
Yeah, this guy he just doesn't really do much stuff wrong. The guy is insanely solid
Honestly, when I think of this about this guy, I think about the fact that he's always full HP
There's a reason why this guy never dies. Yeah, there's always full HP. I don't know how he does it
It's only how you know die. It's some weird crazy concept every room for years
This guy comes, he's always on the rune, and he always moves full HP, it's unbelievable.
I don't know what he does, but his mechanics in the first six minutes are insanely good.
You talk to any player, and they're always like, yeah, this guy's like really, he's like really,
you hate the lane against him, all the five players, they'll tell you this. He is a menace.
Yeah, it's like, it's like him and Miro, when they have hard lanes, even then it's like, you know,
they have the stick charges, they have the verify, they win the lotus fight, and that's like,
why they keep going like forward and forward, and I think also for save, he's always the
right players, right time type player. He's always wherever his mid needs him to be,
he's there. You need him for a follow-up kill? Boom, he's there. You need him in safe lane?
Bro's TPing? He's already there. That's why he's KDA. It's pretty nasty.
The only time he's ever had more than like seven deaths in a game this tournament is
when it's been an hour long game. And at that point, deaths don't matter because if you're
a support, you need information, like whatever. But consistently, it's like one to four deaths.
It's his average going into it. So it's like conceptually insane that a foreplayer, often
the guy that needs to run around the map, do these things, go to uncharted territory,
normally the one that gets sent back to the base whilst you win the fight so he is just
proof that he is so consistent and a kind of a pillar for this team.
There's something poetic about the fact that the first time these two teams went up against
each other in slam 7 was on day number one in a best of one. Now they're coming up against
each other again in the best of three on our final day. Do you guys remember who took it
in that best of one?
I actually don't.
It was LGD in a 32 minute win.
Did they have Huskar?
No, they did not. They had Kanko. If you can believe that a Kanko
I actually can't believe because I'm not that big of a conquerator. I think the hero has weaknesses, but GPK's conqueror was not the best
I don't think we'll see it today. No, it was LGD who had the concoct. I know and one I know yesterday
The reason concoct losses cuz
Hang on which team
Was I would you be quickly just double-checking good? I know I'm right as I'm just here than there
Yeah, perfect. It's here for them. That was good. It was with Nux iron as well something that has been really enjoyable with LGD
We've talked about so many different things being brought out hero wise
But for me it's always been it'd be new ma over the last tournament of what he's been able to pull out of any which way
Yeah, I think he's probably the most
Creative or the most willing to play random stuff right now and carry
He'll also play the meta stuff. I'll play the draw rangers apparently not the loan druids
But so in some ways, I think he's he's sort of forsaken the super popular here
doesn't really play shadowfiend or loans or anything. You know what? I'm going back to
some of the classics. I'm going back to the stuff that I like, that is sort of more my
deep and my muscle memory and not the stuff I'm uncomfortable with that everyone's playing.
You know what? Screw the meta. I'm going to do my thing. I mean, that's kind of LGD's whole
thing. So it's kind of fitting that Yuma fits in with that, and it's not just like other players.
He's like, you know what? If you guys are going to play weird garbage, I'll put some weird garbage too.
That's been one of the most enjoyable things about what's happened over the last few patches,
is teams have their own meta. There isn't an overarching meta that prevails in every draft,
but it's time we get out game number one for this best of three draft on the way.
and I'll see you next time.
they're going to be able to
play it. They're going to be
able to play it. They're going
to be able to take care. They're
taking out the Huskar and the
accent LGD are going to sit a
little bit. Maybe T. They're
contemplating. Do they rub
out that first page of their
drafts like you suggested? I
mean, I'm still seeing any
papers. Yeah, I think we're
fine. Um one thing for LGD,
though, is even though you
haven't been playing longer in
this tournament in the
qualifiers between the group
stage and play, I said they
had to play online for a
different tournament. They
have played the loan. You're
I think maybe when you go into like low bracket best of freeze potentially even grand finals
I am expecting these one game where they kind of remind people hey we can do this even if we're not banning it
It's just not it's not because of anything else other than like we just don't respect it in draft kind of power levels for our players
But I'm expecting to see one game. Yeah, I'm also a
I'll be surprised if LG because the heroes that are standing out especially for bedroom like laundry it of course
It's gonna be one of them
You also have puck overall that LGD have taken out a lot in the games
they've played, entry and protector in the BB series, Jesse vs Yannick was also a very
big standout hero.
And Kes.
Oh yeah, and Angry Bird.
Where's the word?
Okay, at least ODD aren't trying to do a game one against BB.
Let's give them the laundry, guys.
Let's show the world we can beat it.
Like, that's not...
Yeah, let's go laundry and then pick techies.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I was referencing.
Yeah, I got you.
Got him.
We're one step away there.
I think Puck is potentially a leaveable one of that when he's first pick.
It's you're you're in for a ride and it's not gonna be an easy game because it's GBK puck boy is a beast and they're gonna leave it
So
Drow is in the pool to potentially they're looking for a trade there on either side
We saw them do that against liquid where that one picked Ryle they pick puck
I question if they would do the inverse so that one picks puck will they pick draw?
I don't know if they're comfortable with both sides of the trade and the case is in the pool
So it's BB. Yeah, yeah with that in place like is
It's growl okay when Kez is there because of course Kez has a lot of gap closing, you
naturally go like mage layer death so you kind of fight into the map so there's kind
of a little bit layering here for sure.
I wonder where LGD take it here, there's a, like when they've played into Kez I believe
now multiple times like both against Kez and Lone they really like their Timbersaw.
It's not my favorite answer overall, I think when I see Kez, Doom is one of my favorite
answers but it doesn't seem like the biggest whisper here, I like whisper on a bit more
flair and I can do stuff I can pressure early you know his his bad rider and his
snapfire type of hero so even though there are better answers overall like
hero to hero I hope that they stick to just like their type of style what
stops picking the bad just now then I was about to say that because I think
you're not going to get it in the next phase I really do see Beben looking
towards banning that in the second phase like if you want to put the stocks on
it then yeah I'd say right now it's like the you just looking in if you if you
think that's like the number one hero but of course we're doing like the cares
the drills, the carries that have been, you know, plaguing every draft of this tournament,
they are now kind of snapped up by both teams.
Boo, I wanted to fund you, the hero, Boo.
Yeah, Boo.
Oh, it can be fun. I like this hero.
I don't go over there and tell the cast right now.
No.
Good, good. Just making sure we're on the same page.
I mean, they are sort of sticking to their prep in a way.
Yeah, they are.
They've been not dying, preparing to pick Drow on non-9.
That's what they're setting up for.
So I think in some ways, they were, I mean, they used quite a bit of time.
So I think they were talking about other options. Oh, we could pick Puck. We could pick this we could pick that
But the end of the day, I think they kind of said, okay, this is our prep. We're gonna stick to our prep now
We've seen how that's going in game one. So maybe that was wise, but that was their choice
For now, this is already better than in I think some of the other games that we have seen
I want to see where LGD do take it from here because
Draw ranger while this year is incredibly good. We have seen her lose for the right reason
No core hero can generally be picked first all the time and just you know keep up winning
If you're Bed Boom, there's like one of two avenues.
I think you can look to collapse on the hero.
Kess is very good at winning his lane and going through the gate.
Drow Ranger does not love to be collapsed on or heroes that overall just get on top of you.
Still, there's also the potential for an 18 pot for Bed Boom.
I want to see if LTD, do you want to either ban it?
Do you want to just have some heroes on the next phase where you're like,
oh, don't worry, we're going to pick some, you know, Ember,
or we'll have enough options later where we don't really care.
But there are heroes that you absolutely need to think about.
I feel like you ban the pot when you pick up the snapfire.
I'm not sure if they're going to rush the snapfire. I love the puck ban. A snap to me is like a little weird against Kez because he's very mobile and he's all over the place so it's not actually easy to hit him with cases or any of your spells because they're kind of prone to missing on really mobile heroes.
It's also like for LGD, so if you don't ban the puck here, you don't want Tylong to like
have to print if you go for a hero, knowing there's a puckling.
You don't want your midlaner to have to do these things, so any team against like liquids
and BBs and like the puck teams, if it's not banning first phase, second phase ban it,
you're going to be really happy.
But taking the Wyvern, a hero that again, BB has popularized during the event, cold
embrace against cares, like any hero that needs to lock on and take a fight during like their
BKB timing, naturally cold embrace will be able to deal with that, but it does invite
You know the dune picks like obviously don't see the track anymore, but the heroes that kind of go. Oh you press code embrace
I'm going to slaughter that hero now. Thank you so much for griefing your own team
Oh, the other thing is burst right if you can burst through the cold embrace. They're just to still talk a few
Yeah, I mean who think is just incredibly good
It's it's been a good hero for forever good for love damage you give bonus Bellamp
You can buy vessel if you want to give giga magic damage and it's also one of saves absolute best heroes I
I wonder what the pairing will be.
I was surprised, I kind of thought for a second they might do a Darkseer.
With the range tier of 4 it's a little less likely the Island Shell synergy is not quite
there.
But we saw the Darkseer look really good against Drow earlier and there's a Wyvern
2, it's really good against that.
You want something like that, I think, that either cuts waves or you have something creative
to actually play the lane because Drow Ranger Wyvern is about as harass-heavy as it gets
so it's really hard to actually have enough HP to just stay the lane because they just
just keep hitting you and shooting you relentlessly.
Really.
It's also like...
The holding can tell me to pick a bit in the draft because
the tree's gone, the clock's gone, the bane's gone.
Winter Wyvern's been stolen from them.
Other than that, the only heroes that he's played in the tournament,
one game Oracle, one game Tusk.
You don't really want to Tusk into the Winter Wyvern, it's kind of awkward.
And then, again, Oracle. It doesn't really make sense right now.
So we are probably going to see a new hero from him.
Potentially, the liches and the more aggressive fights that he played in previous tournaments could make sense.
Especially the burst that we're talking about into Winter Wyvern.
I can totally see the literature against these two heroes already.
Also, just with Kez, it's an amazing lane.
I think that Bebum are just setting up an 18 pick that is going to, you know,
you have jump, like when you see Winter Wyvern, when you see Drow,
you want to gap close against these heroes.
There's a very high chance already that LGD here should be talking about, you know,
the classic Largo combos, whether it's a storm,
whether it's a co-op, these heroes that GPK can play and just take over a game
with an offline Largo in the pool as well.
I'd be so scared on LGD.
Like the quap and ember are so scary.
Like Drow, like you said, you don't want to be jumped on.
Ember with the vessel, quap of levels, you'll make moves.
So, LGD, they're kind of like preemptively protecting themselves in the lane matchup
because you take the mid viper, it's like, okay, please, pick your map playing,
lago utilizing mid hero, they often don't get to get out of the lane against viper.
We saw that yesterday with Makoto struggling on the storm.
You should pivot now on bad boom, no?
Like just take a normal mid hero that just beats viper.
If the hero is to go mid, at least that's a cool thing for LGD.
It doesn't have to go mid.
It could go offline.
Maybe not anymore.
I mean, OK, so I feel like in some ways, LGD
have gotten a little too big for their britches.
They picked this Viper yesterday in a situation
where it was a counter pick.
It was a really good Viper game.
It was an ass pick.
And it made a lot of sense.
I think when you're block picking something that isn't there yet,
this can buy you in a lot of cases.
Because you overlook what that hero that you're
picking can be countered with, because you're so focused on blocking something else.
I think this opens up a lot of potential heroes for Beppum.
Now, the storms and numbers of things like that are worse, but this is, I don't know
if I like this Viper pick, because it feels like back when they were heroic and they just
kept picking Viper, tiling every single game and losing, it feels like that kind of Viper
pick.
How's the Invoker into Viper?
Is it fine?
Yeah, it's fine.
It's pretty good.
Okay, so I was like, trying to look at his hair, trying to find that hair that can play
neutrally against Viper, but still compliment your draft. Invoker does come to mind, of course,
Yandex or CJ. They keep picking it in this type of position, but...
It's also to go about the LGD double pick. Obviously, there's logic to it, and they
have one to have the idea open of flexing the Viper, but even then, I would have maybe preferred
a melee four. If Viper does go mid, then it's an okay matchup. The melee guy can walk over to mid
and play on the aggression. If Viper does go off, then you also prefer to have the melee type of guy
overall maybe you can still do that because bad rider can act as such if you were to be the support
but I do think like I'm a little bit on the board that there is some potential overcooking here
but it depends also on your enemy's counter pick like it only will look poorly if Bedboom finds
the perfect pick to counter it here on 18. I just hope for LGD's sake that they do put a melee hero
to conclude that draft. Having like four ranged heroes like even if I put bad rider to kind of play
in these bodies like it is like conceptually just such a foreign thing to have in a draft where
you're not having this like balance of the lanes partnerships, but again, there's this like pseudo mealy
through a couple of their heroes. And they do go for the green pit. It's like, it's fine. It's
exactly what you want with Lager. But the lane into Viper, it can be shut down a little bit. I
believe Quinn will probably quite a bit. No. Yeah, this is a ballsy one. You got to play things really,
really correctly. And in all these hard matchups, first the Ord walking heroes, denying their ward
and winning the block are going to be the two boxes you have to check. If you don't, this lane
Queen can be, you can get ultra-stopped.
Queen can also select soft draw if you play really well.
There's a lot of variants here.
It's risky though, because Queen, if she's behind,
is kind of awful.
The Serial sucks at farming neutral creeps
when she's behind, and she needs a lot of gold to be effective.
If you don't get to this Kai'Sanja Ags,
these items and the hero is sort of just a neh.
So this is a very like balls to the wall,
like I'm the goat kind of pick,
because you're picking into one of the hardest lane counters
to co-op and saying, I'm gonna do fine anyway.
It's, again, a very good bet for LGD with the Oracle.
Katomi's here, Paul, again, has already been banned
with counterpicks against him.
So going for the Oracle, it makes sense.
And maybe even a question, could they have 18 Oracle
to counterplay, which Viper and Batrider,
they hate playing into this hero?
So did you need to take the Queen of Pain here?
Was it that important based on kind of the game?
Because, again, the lane matchup is not too good.
The game, I'm sure it's fine.
Yeah, it's definitely more of a game thing.
The one of the reasons why I fully agree,
it is an incredibly ballsy pick,
But I like the idea that they are talking about Largo can look at the mid lane
and Hoodwing can potentially look there, because I think it is still,
obviously, Queen is supposed to get demolished in this lane.
You know, if it goes even, even skill, Viper will always come out on top.
But there are small, like, counterplay potential that your heroes can naturally look towards.
Like, Largo doesn't hate he ping there, especially if he has purpose.
Same for Hoodwing too, against Viper, it absolutely can happen.
And Bedroom have done a similar thing yesterday.
They played as Largo, Ember, versus the Snapfire.
It was the CJ Sapphire where GPK had a very bad like early 5, 6, 7, 8 minutes, but then later, it was so good for the game.
Yeah, it's true. There's a lot of validity to it as more time passes. Just can you get past that early game?
Because once you get sort of into the game, then you can cook for sure.
I will say, I don't think they've really responded to Drow very much.
I think they saw Drow and they're like, yeah, we're going to pick stuff completely unrelated to Drow.
Because none of these heroes are good against Drow.
Oh, okay, it's good.
I don't know if we're sure about it, that's for a reason.
Drow just looks very strong still. I think it's more about the fact at least you you have some sort of sustain right with Largo later
You have the Lich Shield which is nice and you have the potential to collapse on her somewhat
But obviously the potential of you bringing your meteor to Drowslain is a lot lower if your meteor is gonna be slowed down
Holy cow the biggest of all the melee boys to tie the draft together. Okay
the game. Yeah, I'm not
sure. Okay, so first of all,
Spirit Breaker into Queen of
pain is a very difficult
matchup because when you want
to charge towards mid, you
want to have that kill for it.
She can just blink back to
tower and then you're out
position. Of course, you have
to cancel your charge into
lago as well. Probably one of
the hardest counters in the
game because it's very easy
to lick him during the early
game charge when his boots
is low and also frog stomp. If
you put it on the guy you're
not like the, oh my god, the best bear breaker pick, but for the type of draft they have,
the need to connect the heroes in the aggression, it makes sense, but you are going to see Theotokon
potentially have an awkward entry to fight based on the kind of the nice counters they
have already on BB.
It's one of the nicer LGD first game of the day drafts, I think, I've seen, because I
agree with Quinn that the Drow isn't like ultra like answered in a way. I think they've done
a pretty good job for themselves. Like, they're set up to play the game in the way that they
There's chaos. You have Badrider, Spirit Breaker. It's a super cool combo.
Like later, you know, when you have good maps, you can pick people off.
I think Breaker also makes up for what Viper is weak against.
But at the same time, I think BB have what they want.
They just have like an early game hurdle to get over.
Yeah, my read is that Beppum's laning is just too good.
And I think they're going to get over the hurdle.
And once they get into the mid-game, then I think it's all gas, no breaks.
I would like to be proven wrong, but I think Beppum's going to pass the laning skill check.
and it's going to be tough for LGD once the mid-game hits.
Yeah, I think whispering to Elyquil, they need to step up into this lane phase and perform.
If either of these players get a couple kills in lane, can kind of set the narrative,
LGD will kind of follow into that system behind this roadbreak or bat rider,
but if they're having quiet games, maybe we'll just scale.
They'll be very content. So I'm just looking at the off lane of LGD, pretty much from the get-go.
Now for sure, like, Kes Lich is a very strong lane.
Like, even if you're a bat rider there, you can easily get shot down because I want them to have good lanes.
Because at the end of the day, if Yuma has a good game, like later on, I do think Drao scales very well into this game.
Like in Agadam's build, which is something we didn't really see the other day against the Largo,
but I would really like that if Drao gets to like keep her distance.
And Badrider Drao is also a cool combo. You drag the first guy in, you just get shredded.
I think also Drao or the Viper is not really to be underestimated.
So I think this is actually, I think it's quite even, personally.
the game. We're going to go
into the game. Okay strong safe
lanes. It sounds from both of
them scaling into the game
definitely is a possibility for
both of these teens. It's a
low bracket finals. It's a game
one. The winner goes on to the
grand finals at the end of this
the other one. That's the journey
in Slam seven. But now get the
head on over to our cost is
Sun's fan and syndrome. Very
good job. Now you finally learned
last night was any indication.
A two out just about two hour game three yesterday with LGD coming on on top with the most hilarious
Zeus shenanigans that we have seen.
Yeah.
Tyler's playing Viper this time, not our favorite on this guy, but we'll see if he can pull
it out this time around.
From infinite scaling to Viper, how the mighty have fallen over night.
Yes.
Before you get into it, let's get into the series where we'll find out who will be going
to the Grand Finals.
All right, let's get into it.
Look at them go.
You started talking.
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Look at them go.
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last time. You've asked me a
lot of times and I have not
forgotten. That's good. That's
a good boy. It's right there.
Good clean boy. You are. All
right. So last time we cast
Ty Long on Viper. He played a
lot of games of Viper actually
lost just about everything.
One of them and there's a lot
of criticism because he's known
for just being able to pop off
on these very active heroes,
heroes that. High skill cap you
of that is not any of those things in right now but he did he did look strong on it yesterday.
And I guess it's one of those things where it's not only him, it's also the team that
needs to get a little bit more experience with if you're used to playing him, like you
said on Playmakers, then the entire team needs to restructure in games that he's playing
Viper.
And, you know, it's also still relatively small sample size the tournament that we're
referencing.
three games perhaps or four games where it went wrong and you'd be like man why do they keep picking it.
There could have been other flaws in the games that are harder to see and then you just
point to the one that's very obvious. It's easy to point to the obvious thing. Exactly.
That's our job. But this time around so when you're not playing in active mid you really want
other heroes to be able to pick up that mantle and you've got Batrider plus Spiritbreaker as
playmaking heroes. It was interesting to hear T's perspective on the matchup into Queen of Pain,
because he's thinking a lot about it from the perspective of early laning stage, that
it's kind of a tell of how he likes to play Spiritbreaker, that he immediately focused on
it's hard to kill the mid-hero by charging there. I was thinking more of it in the glass half-hole
sense, which is later in the game, you have a hero that can actually guarantee you connect on Queen
and give vision. Yeah, that's true. So it's like which aspect are you valuing more in the game?
It's definitely true that the pressure on to mid from Spirit Break won't be the best, but
it's Viper versus Quoth. Viper shouldn't need any help. This is a lane that Tylong is supposed to
win. He misses every uphill hit, and maybe you will need some help. Maybe he's just cursed on the
hero. Oh, there we go. That's a couple now. Let's do it, RNG. I'm sure as Miaro, oh my goodness,
This is going to be first blood already, going to KJ on the Wyvern.
Great start here for LGD and what do you think of the Frogman being picked in a game where
the Drow is literal first pick.
You know they're going aggs, it's an anti-heal of sorts, do you even think about that or
is it just the pacing?
I think aggs only works against region, not healing.
I can hear him, I can go.
It's not particularly great against Largo from the perspective of reducing his healing,
but it's still good.
I mean, it's slow to approach.
How does it work?
Because they changed this and it was very confusing.
I think it's pretty clear. It lowers regen but not healing.
And his ult is a heal.
It's just pulsing flat number.
Okay.
Damage onto Yuma here.
Immediately going to eat the tree is King Jungle.
So I wanted to talk about this boss lane against Largo in particular
because I think it's a really interesting dynamic here
where Largo in theory, you're like,
oh, he has catch a lick, he can dispel the slows.
But guess what?
They can both reapply their slows indefinitely.
after the change to Arctic burn where it effectively works like it used to when
you bought Ags where every hit just reset the effect. That was
changed where it got to be that way in general but then it lowered the damage.
That's about very far to try to survive. Not gonna happen though, save.
Not gonna be the trade. So that's something from Miro to keep in
mind here is that if they just start ramping up the slows on him, yes he can
to spell one stack and then they're gonna hit him one more time and we're back to square one.
Yeah and I mean later in the game when he's in the same lane as the Batrider he can at least
take that off. You have to start reapplying again. GPK. It's very interesting to see here. Tylong
choosing to lose three CS to make sure GPK doesn't pull the wave. Just understands how crucial it is
that the lane is in the right position for Viper to be able to win, but there's very few situations
and very few mid players that would do this because you value CS so highly, but lane position is
king here. And you can see GPK is going to try again. Hey, look at this. He's kind of forcing
Tylong's hand. That's very interesting. This time he's going to get, I think, we only got two of the
four again this time. All right, tries to aggro a bit. Mission failed. Oh, this is bad now for
This is not solvable. I think oh wait one of the creeps going to tower range actually
Yeah, it's gonna push a bit. He might just get this from that actually
Either way advantage going the way of Tylong as should be expected. Yeah this point of the game is the very least
And we have seen GPK with one or two hard laning phases
But he main main was yesterday on ember, but then he just popped off like crazy afterwards with playmaking
I haven't talked about that too much. How do you catch on the dire? Is it hoodwink? Only, I guess.
Sinister gaze.
I say that's a bit of a strength.
Link, Ags for Lich. The Sinister Hole, as we like to call it.
That's right. Theolicor will take away a water rune here as well, so GPK not getting any of them.
And then he's going to run up and take the bounty, so no access to refills for the Queen of Pain.
And now the lane position is once again in Thailand's favor and we haven't talked about whisper yet playing Batrider
This is his best hero. He is a god on this hero
And if he doesn't have a at the very least very good performance that is under his average
We've seen at least
All the time his bottom lane Yuma can get healed a dramatic amount, but it's not gonna be nearly enough
You're all we're not wavering there. Yeah, and the 1v2 that's gonna be a rough one
GPK desperately trying to find a way of refilling his bottle, but nope this bounty is also taken GPK
So I can't get that in there whisper will get on the board at this is just such a good bad rider lane
Kezra was talking about how you can be under pressure and they can chase you, but if you play
Stable together with spirit breaker. I I don't think that loses this
Just throw a couple of stickies onto Kaz. He can't really fight you
So they are gonna bring a third
Starts hunting, and Minister Gaze was already used.
A lot of damage though, onto the Kaz, here to try to turn around.
Onto Whisper, he'll get the kill.
Back to the Olocor, I don't think there's anything else in his tank though.
He's just a fat cow at the end of the day.
And now, the right click will likely suffice as save takes into the ground as well.
So, two kills for the Betboom side.
Nice, we're much needed here.
Yeah, it's very, very great from save.
Almost went wrong because of the fortune of charge, but...
even with the information that that was happening, it was still okay.
Tylong is two full levels ahead of Queen.
Yeah, level 6 to 4.
This is going to be the biggest challenge of this game, is that I don't think that Boom can really help QWAP.
I think it will secure the power rune as well, however it may spawn.
It's down bottom.
Oh, they find a lift.
They do.
Charge will be there.
Viper Strike used.
Should be an easy cleanup for Tylong.
I have to question the Queen pick.
I must say, when I saw it in the draft, I was like, this is bold.
Yes, I know you have Largo and it's great to give Croak of Genius, but giving Croak of Genius to a pile of shit
It's still a pile of shit. It doesn't become a genius shit from that. That's not how it works. It's polishing a turd
Yeah, exactly. That's the thing you're trying to go with and just remaking it. Yeah, pretty much. Good.
GPK, he's almost the same level as Theodokor right now. Yeah, that's not great. They're gonna bring three heroes in here
They better get something out of it. I mean they have to do this just to defend their tower
I don't think you're ever killing Tylo here early.
It's good damage with the siege and the damage room from Thailand who's probably gonna take a couple pop shots here to see if they can
Wait for their wave to come in as well, which will be coming in now
Yeah, I don't know if they can hold this all the siege creep
Yeah, the cold embrace will ensure this tower now just the his own wave up never mind this a cliff
a lot of notifications going about now he got it taking the pop shot and now the
wave should be able to see he does that he got in this GPK all right we'll be
able to defend just barely as we'll charge action top but no follow-up here
yeah we'll keep an eye on the levels for GPK not used to seeing him at the bottom
of the network who are the cores yeah there's a lot of there's a lot of stake
for this game in this mid lane where the way that Betboom a lot of the time win their games
is GPK either wins or draws on active heroes and then they rally around him and they break
the game wide open. In this case you can't do that with a level 5 queen especially on a level
4 even. So you can tell from Betboom's movements that they're a bit, I don't know if I'm reading too
much into it but it seems like they're a little bit uncertain what to do here. Like the supports
show up mid, but they're not really able to do much. They're kind of just standing there.
And he keeps getting unlucky too, GPK, can't even get a rune to save his life.
Yeah, see all the core is going to run up and take the bounty again.
Just hits level five now, which is the same as KJ on Winter Wyvern by what BT does,
and how much you like that.
That's good. You almost set it normally, but you have stopped yourself.
I appreciate that.
Just got to make sure to tilt you as much as possible here.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, the core coming in from the north can try to pressure a bit more.
He's the lowest level in the game right now, though. Yeah. And obviously this hero doesn't
have the old innate of getting experienced. That's such a weird, yeah. The herd mentality
one now he has. We're out of ideas. Let's put this in the game.
That's some valve employee that played spirit breaking was like, I'm never level six when
other heroes are because I keep running around ganking and not getting Linux P. How can I
I just shoehorn in a way of getting level six and I'll add it for a while
No luck
Gotta say though the way this game is progressing looks very stable for LGD, and I agree 100% with kezu. This is a good draw game
Hyperthermia versus Largo or not. I just think the matchups are quite decent
There's no hero that gets on top of you except kez
So you only need to itemize against him for that and obviously you're gonna buy pike without question
It draws a lot harder to play when you're playing against heroes like let's say two or three heroes that collapse on you and have stuns.
It's a lot less obvious how you navigate, but I think for Yuma this game should be pretty straightforward if it continues like this.
Qwap was the pressure point that could have been an issue. Qwap got a fast level six, started ganking you in the safe lane, pressured your tower.
But as we've already established that, that was never a worry after they picked Viper.
They had about a
Was it maybe a 10 11 hour turnover between that game and having to play again? Yeah, you think that's
That's that should be enough time surely to reset. Yeah, I think what do you think there was any worry about that?
I think so. I think they're just pumped. I think they're riding the high right now of winning that game and
Having the prospects hot that's another panel is one of the most interesting games in history. So I think it's by for strike
And onto the hoodwink should be easily killed off here, Tylen gets credit for that, having
a great start to the game as they're going to pressure the tier one bot now.
That was a good example of why a Spiritbreaker is good against hoodwink.
We didn't really talk about that matchup, but obviously what hoodwink often does is
when she gets spotted she will go and hide in the trees.
She doesn't even have Skurry yet, but when she does, if you're charged, these ranged
heroes are just going to eat you in the tree line.
There's a lot of inherent synergy between SB and long range right clickers for that
reason and he's playing with two of them. The Viper and the Drow who are both going to
buy pikes and will hit from very far away. At least I'm assuming they will. Tylon currently
eyeing up a mage slayer to make GPK's bad game even worse. 3k the lead.
Is there a reason not to eat this book right away?
You want to hit level 7 so that you can get the extra point immediately.
You can't just put it in now.
If he uses it now, he gets level 4, let's see, let's get...
So low-hurts into the gusts?
So the way it works is, if he uses the book now, he gets level 4 Arc to burn,
because it levels up by 1, but then he can't skill it until level 9.
But if he waits until level 7, he can skill the 4th bind, use the book, and immediately get level 5.
Which I would argue is maybe a little bit weird that it works that way.
It makes sense now that you've explained it.
It caught me by surprise, because the first time I got this, I did exactly what you said.
I was like, oh, I'm level 5, whatever.
I'll use my book, and then I'll level it up to level 5
at level 7, but you just can't do that.
That might have changed at some point.
Hopefully, the other skills become more viable for using
the book on.
I feel like I've only seen an Arctic burn so far.
I think the same time for position 5,
why I've earned Splinter Blast was your number one
spell for like four years.
So it's kind of nice to see a change in that regard,
I suppose.
That Arctic burn is actually valid.
The standard support build was mostly 141 for a long time on position time.
What was that noise?
That was the last...oh that one.
That was a laugh? That's how you laugh, huh?
That was a really late reaction.
You know, it was finishing my point. I didn't want to entertain that.
Yeah, you gotta queue things up. It's stupid noise.
Single...uh...
God damn it, I had such a good joke.
Yep. Okay.
Damn it.
But it's not for broadcast or what?
No, I just can't think of the word now.
then you didn't have to joke.
It was deep inside of me.
OK.
Single processor unit?
No, that doesn't make sense.
What am I thinking of, syndrome?
Keep it up.
Dual processing unit, but you're a single.
You get it?
Yeah, right.
It's dead in the water.
Just forget it, all right?
It would have been good.
Now it sucks ass.
3K leave for LGD.
Almost for it.
Well, it was for for a minute.
Sure, it's good.
In terms of itemization, Ty Long went for the Mage Slayer
First?
BKB pike standard.
Okay.
I hope you buys the pike first, to be honest.
I don't think he needs to buy BKB first item here after Mage Lair.
I think you're tanky enough with the...
inherent magic resist of that. I mean, look at the dire lineup.
It's all magic, except a lot- uh, Caz, excuse me, who...
Fortunately for BedBoom is having a good time.
Kind of the only one, though.
Nobody else in the game is happy for BedBoom than this chicken.
Oh, chicken, frogs, and demons.
Yeah.
I guess you can have this one dual processing unit I'm having such a brain fart with that
joke wisdom time looks like a split save will not be contested on the bedroom side oh there's
to charge onto GPK. Careful Roche.
GPK the goss.
The illusion. Very, very nice.
Fortunate rune finding.
They might still go for it though.
You have a better strike though. Multi-Cut is still firing and down goes GPK.
Link was too late for Miero.
If you will.
Let's get some allies nearby, but the numbers are on LGD's side so far,
especially with K.J. coming in from the south.
Can we get the curse?
Is there a follow up? Absolutely. Blink, dagger, lasso, Miero, dead.
My LPD just styling right now.
Whisper is level 12 by the way.
And he's on on bat.
Chain Frost doing considerable amount of damage.
Theola Core, gonna have to run towards the North.
Whisper has the Firefly to get away.
Dodges the stun as Yuma.
Now he's getting gone on by Kiritich.
Racer's dance not gonna hit anything.
And they're trying to spin this around.
Look at the damage.
There's the Sonic Wave coming in at the last moment.
Yuma's gonna be able to get the kill on Kiritich first.
The Sonic Whimper.
And he can now on the run, but not for long.
As a cold embrace saves Yuma as well
Betboom just trying to get they get a neutral creep tonight a very small
Consolation consolation prize for betboom as they lose basically everybody
Just nothing going right there. Wow. Okay. This is how you are super strong right now. They're so far ahead
But it was cool to see Queen of pain cast an ability didn't get an assist though
So, Jarv should be dead.
Okay, this would be a huge kill, actually, by a long death.
Definitely was feeling more confident since everybody's dead on Beppu.
I mean, he did not think they were going to, that was a heads-up play from Beppu, so he
won't even find that, to be honest.
Good layering here on Sumiro.
And if it wasn't for this chainfrost, which is going to end up being really nice for
Katzomi, if it weren't for that, then this fight would have been a complete travesty.
He was already bad, but at least now you killed the spirit breaker and lich denied to the ancients. So it could have been worse
Yeah, nice coverage
So I played hit two people. Yeah, it was a whimper
Yeah, cuz it doesn't deal much damage because he has nothing. I see I mean, okay
Oh, GPK again dead with the lasso whisper right off cooldown gets to work
I GPK was having a rough game and it has just gotten worse and worse by the minute
I mean, I know it's a best of three and that you have Largo, but I feel like it's almost
Disrespectful to pick clean in this game
Another chain frost it will bounce only once though sharp shooter. It should be enough of the right clicks to take the cow down
KJ coming in from the north down. He has Curse. No way to use it. Once KJ is nearby, they're
able to burn out save pretty damn fast as Miero is getting dropped as well. Now the
Viper strike onto the chicken man himself goes in Viz. Now the Viper coming out from
hood when KJ is burning. Looks like he might survive though. There's the Curse. It's on
the solo target though. He's with for Johnson with the right click. Start a wave to kill
off human they finally get her but very heavy cost again for bet boom flame break charge is coming
from pretty far away they're gonna fall through on this we'll see blink on bet yep they are
helicor on the way whisper able to finish up kata omit the helicor doesn't he has another
strike in two seconds but that's not nearly enough damage take out gpk they're feeling themselves
Not about 8k lead now, so they do lose the drought.
It's a really expensive kill.
Bye back on Hoodwink.
Far away from anything here is save.
Starting to work on a Eul's.
This is going to be a very late pick up.
I'm curious to see GPK's itemization.
When the game is this atrocious, like what do you even do?
It's gone Kaia, BKB it looks like.
BKB isn't even that good.
There's three piercing abilities here.
Four.
Four, yeah.
I guess the Viper Strike is probably going to be mostly reserved for the Kez, but yeah.
How often you see four piercing abilities?
That's true.
That's insane.
Like, this is a better, I mean, not that this would help you against everything, but this
was a good Lincoln's game, surely.
I kind of like that better than BKB.
the threat of getting charged globally by Spiritbreaker.
Oh, hello. Speaking of...
Hello, good bye.
Kat'sa only will be... Kat'sa pulled it back to the base.
And into the rush we go.
Super early rush.
And this is gonna set up the tournament for themselves as well.
That's so finally online for Kiritash, but he's got a long way to catch up.
You see what King Jungles level to level 5?
Ooh, cold and brave.
How did that scale exactly?
Exactly. So base heal just a slight upgrade, max HP.
Yeah, so the way the book works is that it takes half of level 3 to 4 and applies that to the ability for level 5.
So you get half a level, essentially.
That is interesting.
It's insanely good against Kez, this ability.
You can't use this on... can you use it on towers anymore?
No.
Like not a talent or anything?
No.
I kind of liked that as a...
That was a cool gimmick.
It was weird that it didn't heal though.
That would have been broken.
I understand that, but I'm just saying, counterintuitive for sure.
Makes on what it normally does.
This is cool. He's going max heal with Holy Locket.
So fully playing into that aspect of the hero.
Going to get his shard next. Feels like a good glimmer game potentially.
Glimmer blink.
Although I also feel like we've seen a relatively low amount of glimmer capes this tournament relative to normal.
Like pipes and glimmers are not trending. Yeah
Maybe it's because you just buy a mage flare and then you're left with the enemy team
Could be it
Ages for Yuma and now they go to the tour meat. This is just very easy. Yep
Played by the book. You have all the advantages take all the objectives. They don't have a single shard actually
So it's gonna go either if you look for or KJ
So planar pocket or the cold embrace damage buff, which is really nice on drow
Plainer pocket is so hard to tell if anything's even happening. Oh, you're gonna have to pay attention to it
Plainer pocket. So he gets magic resistance and then he can be targeted by a spell
Rapids try to steal some form here carrot it's gonna get some help from save the charge is coming in
And they have everything to kill off the chicken man
Was it worth? No
It's close to good timing because of the Tormentor, but a little too slow there.
So that's the third death now for Kiritich.
And yeah, LGD in the driver's seat.
Taking that momentum from L- I mean, we talked about this earlier this tournament.
Bethesda have looked the best at their peak in this tournament, but-
I think this- To me, this game is completely falling apart because they take Queen of Pain.
I know.
I don't- I don't think it- It's the only reason, but it's the front of the-
front of the problem here is that club can't play the game she has lower net worth than spirit breaker
holy shit seriously what the hell how it's 21 minutes I mean the shard help I guess but still now he has a
pipe wow on spirit breaker he's higher impact than this is the first pipe we've seen I got
purchased yesterday against Zeus you're the car gonna get chain fraud he has a pipe though yes he does
He's gonna get gazed and killed.
Great proof of concept of how tanky he is though.
He ate a full chain frost plus all of Lardo's stuff and almost lived.
And it's kind of funny to see this whole bedroom situation because yesterday when we were casting
their third game against Yandex, he said to me after the cast, you were like, if GPK
was playing anything else than Kunkka they would have won that game. And I kind of agree,
not because I think Kunkka is bad, but because I think the way they itemized and the way
they played it and the way this team functions, it just doesn't scale hard enough for how
they used GPK in late games. So that pick, you could draw into question the GPK pick
of yesterday's third game. And now this one, you're picking the quap into Viper. Also...
Could he... Sorry. I'm reading Planner Pocket again.
Yeah. He could have lived there, surely. He didn't
click it right? Oh did he not use it? No. If he gives you 40% magic on top of his pipe.
He should definitely use it. Maybe he didn't have mana for everything? I didn't know you
could use it on enemies technically. I think he didn't have enough mana. You can use it
on self and enemies technically even though it's not the greatest use, right? Based on
the wording. It's kind of weird spell. Any unit targeted spell cast towards my enemy
heroes get redirected toward you. So if you cast it on an enemy. Yeah. Oh, lasso initiation.
To the gus, that's a dead lich.
I've ever seen one save.
Can a sharpshoot or nothing?
And now the heal, back to full you go.
Still with Aegis, of course.
I mean, is this just a set?
Can they defend?
I don't know.
OK, that's pretty good.
Scream of pain, and there's Yuma that's
going to burn Aegis, and Whisper burns his BKB.
LGD, they talked about it last night in the interview
that they have some PTSD with going on the ground.
And you can see why.
I mean, you just don't put Bat and Drow next to each other, right?
Yeah.
The reason we did so much damage was that she got a full two-man acorn shot bush-like combo.
Like, this is fine. Just let Drow hit from the left, but Bat needs to be north here.
Like, this is not...
They should be happy they didn't die.
Well, they only lost the Aegis.
They kind of died.
Oh.
No casualties in terms of giving the enemy any gold.
But yeah, wasting the Aegis away like that. Not pretty.
Still...
I'm wondering if they're gonna slow it down now after that little misstep.
Yeah, they might.
That's not an issue though.
I think they can easily win this game at any stage.
Draw is a late-game monster, Viper scales deceptively well
if you haven't played Dota in the last couple of years
and you're thinking of Viper as a win-lame, lose-game kind of hero.
If you buy the right items, Viper hangs with the best of them in the late game.
No.
Wouldn't worry too much about that for Tylong.
Yep, and they have great tower push once Tylong gets his shard, in addition to obviously
just Drow being inherently good.
Yep.
They have two shards that deal tower damage, they also have the bat one.
Ah, yeah.
So they could definitely siege with other means, but I just think it's easier to not
worry about that and just let Drow do it.
Or you know, I could get on board with maybe giving Viper the next stages and Viper's
I don't think that's necessarily bad
But yeah, that should not be close to the tower whispers job is to blink lasso either the queen or the kez kill them and then the
Yeah, but don't exactly how you talked about their lack of catch they don't really have a way to initiate that easily in general like
What what's your cat to only needs a blink but then what?
You blink sinister gaze a single hero. Yeah
Yeah.
Blink in from Klopp who's unbelievably under farmed right now.
There's just no easy way to get into the fights.
There's a BKB on Drown-O too.
Add insult to injury.
I just...
I feel like that boom can't win a fight the next 10 minutes if it's on fair terms.
So they have to either outmaneuver or find a good angle in where they get a kill before
the fight even begins, or they have to try to play keep away.
Disadvantages are mounting in a big way.
What does King Jungles have coming?
Shard.
So now he has shard, plus lock it.
And then he is going to buy a Vlad's.
I'm very surprised he doesn't value the dagger enough here.
It's such a high value item on Wyvern
to guarantee when you're playing into this cold embrace style,
you want to make sure you can always reach the guy you're meant to save.
The shard that, so it gives attack damage, that's I'm assuming face, face up face attack damage?
I think so yeah.
So, I should draw very good then.
Yep.
She comes out of the cocoon.
Right now it would give her about a hundred damage for six seconds.
Pretty good.
Yep.
Especially if she starts leaning into critical strike later.
Well, now if you do scan out that boom, I have no idea what's happening here.
It's the fling on Kat's home and whisper looking for a pick off a quick pick and you'll get it
Easy kill
Doesn't even look at him when he kills him. Of course not. I was too cool
Now spirit breakers approaching his next item after the pipe, which is going to be the shadow blade
So that he's a game a lot harder. He's still keeping close to GP K on farm
It's really problematic and big trouble for GPK without a Lincoln's here.
As soon as the Spiritbreaker Shadowblade comes out, every time you show on a wave, they might
just kill him here.
Yeah, they might get a bunch of kills.
They get GPK easily on the bot side.
It's Tylong.
Yeah, they can't kill us.
I'm gonna force out the BKB from Yerl, Whisper, doesn't have lasso.
Five seconds only.
I could try to re-initiate here.
If they could get vision, they would definitely be hungry for more.
They're gonna smoke.
Did GPK burn his BKB? He did.
He can't really BKB TP against this team, that's for sure.
He couldn't even BKB blink, cause he got changed on by Spiritbreaker and Drow hit for 1500 damage.
And it happens.
Okay, BKB from Whisper.
Katthomii will be burned down easily.
The Olycors are kind of stuck in a weird spot here.
Getting gone out by Keratix.
He does get the kill, but then Alasso onto the chicken himself.
Forcing the BKB now.
And the grappling claw through the high ground. He's fine.
Might have been able to kill him there if they didn't pull him too far.
Yuma had to reposition because he lost marksmanship.
Aside from the BKBs being activated,
That boom will take that trade every time something how fun the spirit breaker is
GPK halfway to his eggs. Oh, I'm swapping away from shadow blade interesting. He wants to go she was on the spirit breaker
Hmm. I thought the shadow blade was really good here. I go ag against being a real baller as quap. Why not?
Smoke from that was committed
sending back the plate now
This move has to work for that boom or they are in big, big trouble.
Yeah, Spirit Breaker coming back. There's the Roche Belch. Bushwax not going to hit anything.
And the Sharpshooter also wasted. Oh, that's it.
Hello.
Randomly.
Amir, I'm going to take the way.
Very good positioning here from Tylong.
King of the high ground, BKB Pike and a Wyvern to cover you. There's no way this guy dies to start the fight.
So they want them to go on Tylong, leading away. Whisper tries to go for the last initiation, but a quick Eul's comes out from safe.
Getting the Viper Strike though, the lick's not gonna help there. He's gonna get burned out eventually.
Actually used the Frost Shield on him in the corner.
We'll live.
Skipping for now.
Yep, like it again.
Pull him down.
Nothing major used though for the Radiant side. Just the Viper Strike, but that's a low cooldown, 30 seconds.
Another smoke from that boom. This feels like if they don't get this the game might just almost end
Very much they want to find the right angle all human might just walk in so then that could be a good start
Oh, that's what's gonna miss. Actually, Kez is in a precarious spot now. Gonna get bashed up by Theolokor, chain frost coming out, onto Whisper
Gonna bounce back to Theolokor, very tanky indeed
And his Viper strike from Tylen finds the frog in a solo situation. Somehow the fight has just completely segregated
As Miro not gonna be able to finish the charge
You never just be able to get away as Ted in the meantime isolated from the rest of his team
I'm not sure how he got there. This was like three different fights at once
But more importantly for LGD they get the big kill onto Kaz which means Roche is theirs. Yeah
It doesn't really matter whether the fight is very structured or very chaotic
All that matters is that whoever gets jumped on their team doesn't die immediately if the fight gets to develop
I just think they win it ten out of ten times these hits by a bedroom have to convert into immediate kills and
And while Drow ran into them, he immediately recognized the situation, cast a gust, ran to the left and used BKV.
And already then, the fight almost played itself.
This is gonna make matters a lot worse for Bedboom. This is gonna be an Aegis plus Pyke now on the Drow.
And I think this high ground attempt is less likely to flop than the previous one.
They will have a banner as well, which the radiant or the dire lineup doesn't really destroy the banner very well either
Yeah, that's true. Somebody's gonna have to go up and hit that. Is that gonna be quap?
Yeah, good luck against the spearbreaker and Alasso, spearbreaker bat, very good cover
Bat now has bags by the way, so Whisper can take two people with him
I'm actually, I'm not to harp on it too much.
I'm just, I'm genuinely very surprised that on the finals day, in such a deciding and important
game that you not only pick Queen into Viper, you also give Whisper Bat in the second phase.
That is, in my eyes on the side of Bed Booms Prep, there was something that could have definitely
gone better for this game number one, but it's good for them that it's the best of three
in case this one goes the way it looks like it will.
They'll have the chance to show that adjustment for the second game.
But this has been all LGD from start to finish.
Look at the graph.
It's just up and up and up the whole way.
And Yuma will have Glacier.
Ty Lung actually purchased his shard so he can apply poison attack to buildings.
Yeah.
He minus armor to them.
Definitely planting the siege now.
And they are fully equipped for this.
Only shard missing is Batrider.
King jungles with the Vlad's, gives Drow 35 damage, it looks like, not bad.
Wait, what?
What's on the Vlad? I thought you guys got a cold embrace.
Ah, that's gonna give him over 100.
Alright, here we go.
In the cover of the Glacier.
I saved.
Quick last hill pick off.
I saved.
Doesn't get much out of the Agnus Scepter, but the kill is a kill.
GPK.
Okay.
We're gonna force the buyback, and now...
Save.
Okay, they're gonna get a decent opening onto the Drow Ranger.
Getting healed up, there's the Cold Embrace.
GPK jumps in with the BKB into nothing.
He just gets Nether Strike and killed up immediately.
And Yuma gonna right-click here, catch on the backline.
Chicken is isolated and it's a very delicious meal for LGD and they're gonna clean up pretty much everybody for dead
They take the ages, but Miara last remaining member of that boom gonna be slow to a crawl
The multi-shot will be more than enough is double kill for whisker and this is gonna be multiple lanes if not just outright GG
Yeah, that boom just seemed a little bit lost with this game state. It's so unfamiliar to
Territor to run this Kaz line up and have nothing to work with. You can see Kiritich goes in and
tries to assassinate the backline, but they don't have damage and they don't have catch.
So how are you supposed to approach these fights in a successful way?
Whisper just by sharding as well to help.
This feels a little bit like frustration. I mean, it's a desiccant wait, but you're not
Comboing with it, right like the spells are being thrown out individually
You want the kez to jump during the sonic which he actually pregnant kills
They're just gonna jump the back line here onto wyvern
But can't even kill that
Wow, okay, he does eventually to the thoughts
Usually this is a hero that has been like two you might feel so much by the way
Yeah, with the cold embrace you have a lotus on top of them
Just insane and obviously that's second life to work with it become feels like three times over just to get the age
ages. Yeah. And that is mega creeps. Just like that. Here it's a chasing whisper. Yeah.
Okay. They're trying to call GG when he dies here. Yep. I do believe so. Ty Long gets
credit for that one. And GPK doing his best. I don't know what he's having a battle against
the support Spirit Breaker. Will he actually get him though is the question. Charge comes
up with the Alucor. Another bash for the road. BKB pop from GPK. It's close. As GPK is the
Victor, now you can call GG and be proud of your performance.
Big Litch, all dogs, you might actually get destroyed here.
I love that you tipped it, that's so funny.
Getting absolutely obliterated in the game.
He gets one kill on the center.
Session two versus four, the two does win.
Barely wins.
I'm surprised they didn't call me.
Like, what are you hoping for?
Is that because of the interview?
Is that because you miss in the interview that your PTSD
from throwing on high ground?
I guess you bet them really believe this game is winnable. Oh
It's one percent according to the plus no no one percent. Oh
Just one more bash
One more bash and spin rick are still with that
Probably would have been more fun though
Lots of tips for the all the core
Now Yuma dying there was a bit random yeah
They're completing out quite hard right now though, still be fine.
It's a lot of margin fairer.
It's the last- Have we seen a mega creep come back in the last year?
We haven't cast any.
I don't think we've cast one, but there has at least been a handful, I would think.
But those are usually not mega creeps versus you don't even have tier- You don't even have tier 1 mid.
I think Megazord 35 has gotta be 0 games.
I genuinely don't think I've ever seen a team come back from there.
I say probably like Megas versus two racks and you get that third racks finally in this mega versus mega
Or like mega against full sets of racks still remaining
But it's 60 minutes and then you win one late game fight and you just end you know something like that
Yeah, but these these situations are
About as close impossible as it gets
Because LGD can do whatever they want they can farm for 15 minutes now if they want
Or they can wait for ages and then and or they can go and push right
I think all three options are going to net them the win
But the highest probability of losing would be sieging right now with no mana on bats
So I think don't do that. Yeah, probably a good choice and then afterwards
Alright, it's only potentially two minutes from Roshi. Obviously. I think just wait for that just to ensure
Well, we got a chance is bobble by KJ and we're gonna see a repeat here
They're gonna delay this for another hour and a half if this game goes to a hundred eleven minutes
I will refuse to cast game number two out of principle
You know, I'm definitely allowed to do that
By the way, it felt like a real tier 5.
That's right. That's true.
It actually ended the game.
There's the Lasso initiation, GPK, dead to right.
There's a double Lasso as well, onto two more members of Betoom.
Kiritich, he's on the back line, attempting to TP immediately, canceled by the curse.
And the right-clicks are going to be more than enough for Yuma.
And Betoom still refusing to call GG.
They've lost three.
Now the building damage is coming with the mega creeps info as well.
GPK Sonic wave onto 2.
Uses the ghost sour.
He calls GG. That's when he calls GG. That makes sense.
So GG, PK.
And he's gonna die one more time.
So first game going to LGD.
Man, oh man, they're taking that momentum from last night.
And they completely destroyed that boom.
This game was just too easy, honestly.
strategically this game was too easy to play the mid hero has no game on the
queen of pain and obviously props to Thailand for playing the lane exceptionally
we were highlighting some of the details about how he was playing lane control and
just running GBK's game completely no game on co-op no catch your side lanes
drew at best and LGD just ran them over all right panel break it down I feel
like that's at least given us a couple of sections to work through here
especially going back to that draft and what you coined Quinn is sometimes an
overeager pick that comes out a few times in drafts is when you pick that
Viper preemptively when right now it doesn't actually look like a good Viper
game and there is still a potential for them to take advantage of but instead
they've been kind of just walk into it and go hey you know what sure you can
have the Viper-Cop matchup. Yeah I think that's one of the biggest story lines of
this game is that GPK he kind of he did the balls to the wall and they got
squished like he wanted this matchup saying that I think I think I can draw
They go up against Viper, and he did not draw. He got the Blitterated, and you can't lose lane like this.
You can't play Dota after him, you're just limping around the game for the rest of the game just feeding.
It's also, because we've seen this twice now, I can see you know yesterday was Makoto on the storm.
He probably was able to do better. Even here I think GPK, there is a world where he can do better.
But now we see it back to back where Thailand goes mid on Viper, and he destroys the enemy mid lane.
So there's also, there must be a lot of like skill check also going into the lane.
I think he's winning too hard like he is overperforming and they did this yesterday too like on his soos
He also solo killed Makoto. I think Thailand right now. You need to be way more careful giving him a matchup like this
I mean, it's lonely. That is the way that LGD are playing all the tips that we're seeing are people overlapping in the early game
Right, you have this like multi hero aggression towards mid
Like even though they're winning the lanes that bring the numbers to crush the lanes as well
Have like no ability to get onto the map because like when you look at the heroes like lago
You kind of want to have that like calm start to the game where it's like 15 minutes in you might have made a couple games
She got items coming your way cares invite you to a fight
None of that was happening because it was just like a full South American train just plowing through Eastern Europe
I was gonna say have they met LGD did they watch?
I mean they were maybe distracted by the Zeus game just looking at how like oh wow
They forgot about the first 30 minutes of the game
Go ahead.
This LGD team is all about aggression.
They're all about attacking.
I don't think they're a team that's very dope when the game is even when it's drawn out,
when it's sort of this bad.
I think Becklin will be massively favored there.
And I think that won't kind of fully misread the mashup
and how it should be played for them.
And then I think you need to do well in lanes against LGD.
If you do well in lanes against them, then I think that crumbles their whole way if they want to play.
But if you give them the early game and then you try to play from behind,
you're just playing right into their hands.
I think it's definitely gonna be a thing that they will want to change up obviously right going into the next game because LGD
I did see a lot of the things in the draft that looked nice
You know you have the map play from the bad writer in this for a breaker
You have Viper who's gonna destroy the mid lane you also have draw range with kind of you know humor head of free game
Free lane as well. It's gonna give the draw or later as well
You know to tie long on the mid lane it just looks very clean
And I think also the Viper bad writer together especially with Viper sharp being bought more often
It gives like a very easy execution, like to end the game.
You go up to the high ground, fly for a shot, you know, you kill the tower, anyone comes close, bam.
Pull them in, the guy dies, and you just make it very clean.
So I think LGD had a very good draft, played very well.
They were, this time around, they're the ones that actually kind of get the free game to themselves.
Yeah, I mean they throw all the eggs in this basket, it's like KJ doesn't even put a point in Splinter Blast until level 12.
So in his mind he knows, I want code embraced, we're staying on the map, we're going to kill BB.
Like if at any point the game gets harder, he can't, waves the game could get difficult,
but in their heads it's like we are not going to make these mistakes, we are going to keep killing,
we're going to itemise and skill this way because we know we have the mentality to be able to make it work.
I think Ben needs to know a little bit of when do we match the tempo, when do we keep pushing it.
Of course LGD don't get punished this time around, that's been multiple other instances where we might see it,
but focusing back on that mid-match up again, Quinn, because we talked about it,
But were there any specific moments where you could feel that this club just has nothing left in the tank?
I think you honestly you see after just a couple of minutes
There's a point in all these viper lanes where it becomes make or break once you get the wave on your hill and the
Crop is in a position to pull waves
Suddenly, it's only gonna get worse from here because I mean this is a 10 minutes
You're almost doubled you're down over 2,000 that were the tenant that's a bit ridiculous and we talked about it during panel
Crop is a terrible hero from behind
Yeah, it's why oftentimes we don't see this hero blind because she's just kind of sucks in these spots
She needs too many items you could see it
He's struggling for items you blink and you scream one time like where then kills you from photo zero because you blinked into
Scream you can't walk in to scream and blink out so much of the hero's kit is around being tanky
It's weird because she's a squishy ranged hero
But this blink spell allows you to get in and then get out if you have the HP to survive long enough to get up
But he doesn't so he's just useless for the entire game and you can feel it the game just literally feels like 45
Every fight is a disaster. Yeah, I think it's like not just hard for the lane
But it's also if you look at the I really like this for a breaker last pick like you know that your lane should go
Well, it's what SB loves. It's how the hero thrives, you know
You want people to like get them low HP because GPK he's already struggling
You just charge wherever you want whisper as well on bad writer. He has a free game
He can go around suddenly you have so many one plus one combos
Which is what I just really liked overall what they did like you can see it here, too, right?
Like GPK he goes from he's like, haha, it's an illusion. I can live and you know it
Like, Spirit Breaker, Cow Man just comes charging by and again, it's what LGD have done throughout the tournament.
They bring more and more people to these fights and to these plays and it's just, I think this time around, they've really nailed their draft.
Yeah, I mean, just like, finding the Spirit Breaker heroes and options, like when you have all these ways to kill heroes,
Spirit Breaker is one of the best at kind of tying it all together.
And because of like, how well the lanes went, knowing that you have just simplicity across the map,
Spirit Breaker likes playing these games.
There's a reason why we don't see the hero too often, it's because like, how many times you see three lanes won,
But the cow can go anywhere. Normally it's like you go and trade one, you win the other, it gets a bit awkward.
But winning all three, the cow is going to look supreme because you have this global presence of just shutting people down when they show up for a millisecond on a wave.
How would you rate his spirit breaker performance? Because I know how much you love spirit breaker yourself, T.
It was a pretty good performance.
Oh.
Oh.
I feel like, apart from the player pocket, please.
Apart from that, I'd say we're upping the number right now.
It was like a 6.9.
It was nice.
like there's room for improvement a lot of room for improvement but i think people say the cows easy
the cows quite a technical hero and uh for that reason it's the 6.9 the other is why i think you're
unable to pick up the spirit burger pick not only does it look good in the draft but you have to
remember who his off laner is and what hero he was on whistler was on his bat he was on his signature
you're able to leave the lane a little bit more when you put whisper in a position like this man
is always going to be able to stand his ground even in a potential 1v2 situation you get us
stop giving this man bad right it's like it's this guy's best hero he plays it
often he plays it mid he has great itemization too like he's not just a
guy that will sit in his lane in that kind of wait and chill no you know he
is the guy he even like back in the day he popularized you know their early
drums joining the fights I think this game he is tranquil drum blink at 40
minutes look at they're killing your off laner at the tier 2 tower like this
team with the early aggression and their players you know that this is how they
thrive if you're bedroom going into the second game you need to step up your
You need to step up your play and you need to be able to fight this team when they make these moves
This I think BB they had too much respect towards the tournament towards the team that they're playing against right?
Because when you're looking at the fans, right, they had to clock in the tree like that's because drows in the
In picks like oh, how do we stop the draw having the best side?
No matter what drows going to have good legs people first pick the hero for a reason when you have get to the stage
But if you're getting a respect GPK Puck band against you you should throw some respect the other way because take giving whisper about right?
Like second phase this time around it easily could be a first-phase pick next time if they really wanted to
Yeah, it's it's a massive oversight genuinely
I think when you look at this LGD team one of their biggest weaknesses has been the ability to catch people sometimes they overcommit numbers and
They clump in places and the enemy kites them around the map and they get all farmed well
Batrider stops that he gives you catch, but he also gives you wave click
I think it's like the perfect hero to glue their lineups together
I mean the spear breaker too
I think both of these heroes they were they were really great picks them because they they combine what is a very very clunky first three
heroes otherwise and I totally agree I think next game you can't give this
hero to whisper it's just not acceptable and I think honestly it's a
pretty ridiculous mistake for them to make in the draft like it's the one
hero that's won them so many games I think whisper has been the standout for
this team arguably the standard of the tournament so far and you give him his
best here it's just absurd yeah it's it's it's cocky I think to say it's like
their bands were what like some three-in clockwork you can definitely you know
shove those away and go for the bad rider instead because this is at least a
type of game where you can go and be like okay this game was like they can
tell off of the feel of the game this game was difficult and it has a lot to
do with draft show there's more gameplay stuff for LGD also at the upper hand
against you but still this game was just not as easy as it should be. I do think
that's the give and take of both teams opening their drafts with their carry
players right you want to pick up the Kez and then sorry their carry heroes you
want to pick up the Kez and then you give away the draft so for the side of LGD
they don't have to worry about banning out this Aber either so they also get a
a better second-phase ban for themselves. And you're so worried about how this draw is going to get
set up in lane on the side of Pepman that you're so focused on what is a good position five that we
have to take out. So you almost need to either take the back for yourself or it's first-phase ban.
There is no ifs and buts of where other positions you want to put it. I do think you should take it
out because at the same time too if you look at LGD they had a good second-phase ban. I mean it was
simple and easy. It was one puck, take it out and it's similar like at this stage of the tournament
if you nail your bans it can really hurt the opponents like drafting and what they want,
get them out of their comfort and it's obviously they have a long break. This is what they can talk about right now.
I also kind of want to bring us back down a second right because even though LGD crushed this game
when they go high ground they still kind of
they show us the the potential weaknesses to their kind of aggression like you see here they're doing the reset
like they're cold embracing at the low ground of course they have some insane lead they had like ages for 40 seconds
but in the back of my mind i'm going what if LGD didn't crush the lanes what if this was their high ground attempt in an even game like where you're
losing the Aegis again it was on 30 second cooldown and like Spirit Brick wasn't there
he's charging in later like there are these moments that like you can feel the momentum
the gold lead what they do from lane enables them to make mistakes but I think for BB it's like
if your lanes don't go that poorly LGD do give slim opportunities to punish the problem in this
game there was no room to punish it and actually convert because like your game was already over
but LGD it's not perfect from start to end there there's still these little moments there's a
potential carry up to that because you know when he was with us he talked about the PTSD he has
about going high ground and I think the reason why it's pushed in that way and in that regard
is because they know they have to lead. Otherwise if it's a closer game they waited out about five
more minutes he talked about just waiting a little bit more until they choked the map out. I do see
like some amount of discipline at least in how they talk try and get converted into gameplay.
Yeah it's you I mean it's clear they've talked about the stuff and it's still just messy somehow
Something innately about the way they view the game or play the game is just not that going high ground.
And I think that's a significant part of Dota is in some ways you have to put all your eggs in one basket.
Nobody, no team is good at every style of play and their style of play is aggression in lane.
You can see from the way Tyloon picks his heroes that he wants to stomp his lane in snowball.
And I think whenever you do that, that means you're going to be worse at other parts.
And I think when I think about our team and the way people beat us,
is if you can shut us down in lanes, then we can't do anything because we're used to being ahead.
So we're really bad for behind and I think people have to you have to understand what a team wants
What makes them tick?
What are they good at and then really at a fundamental level try to beat that and I don't think that was done this so far
Yeah, and I think on that note too like especially before T shirt and what we're talking about if they're not that good at high ground
I think Viper is a really good hero that cushions that like first of all you do really want your lane
You shut down the enemy mid laner and then you can build the shard
Which in my mind is actually like top five shards of all time like it actually allows you to end the game
I don't think there's other shards that allow you to do that
So there's like so many reasons why you should be thinking about like the bad rider and the viper like even more if you're bedroom
Which is why I think it's not really that complex for them to find like a nicer draft and better bands for the next game
It was pretty simple what have been foundational prop ups for the side of LGD
So for that bit, it should be an easy fix
Hypothetically, but we'll see after this break that they're able to implement them in a game number two draft
We had to look at some of the props on Paulie Market, but we decided to come up with some
of our own.
All right, I'll go on.
Is that either Cormentor or Aegis?
We stole them once during the playoff.
That's quite likely to happen.
Roshan last year's deal.
No, I'm saying Aegis.
The Aegis being snatched or Cormentor lost it being taken by Demetina.
It wasn't taken.
Yes.
That has nothing to do with the other 90% of the damage.
Yes.
I think it's quite likely.
It's a nice play, it's a nice play.
It would be a pretty nice play.
It's locked in. Great.
the game. And that's what
we're talking about. LGD and
that boom here. LGD having
taken Game number one in what
felt like a very, very
convincing fashion at no point
was there a massive slip up on
behalf of them and maybe that
them getting a little bit too
eager with the way that they
want to be able to play the
game and not really taking
top. You got to reset, I think, reassess the situation, because I think they all felt like
that was the case. This is a game where you got shut out. It wasn't close. There was not
really any point where it looked like they were going to come back. And to me, that's
either, okay, we either played like trash, which I don't think they played like trash.
I think it was a little, it was just a tough game. And so I think they also understand
that. And so you'd be realistic. You don't overthink this. You're like, ah, whatever,
it's a tough game. Everybody chill. We'll just change some things to the draft next game.
And it's going to be fine. I think that the not overreacting is a really big, big part
It could be as simple as like you keep the same pick order you just run it back second-phase bands like we were mentioning
There's been multiple bat riders conversations multiple biper conversations again the clock the tree they're okay. They're good heroes
They're respectable heroes, but they don't like shape the draft as much as other here specifically for LGD
So I feel like for BB just having that comfort of seeing the same draft pattern might be their friend in a in a game
Where it's like your opponent is so volatile. You're not knowing what they're gonna be picking next time
team. Yeah, there's the benefit
for both teams to have that
potential run back there for
them. But more importantly, I
think it is for LGD because when
we look at South American teams,
it feels like they've always been
a region that has shown up at
international performances
before at tier one events, but
this LGD roster right now doing a
lot of representation for the
side of essay. Yeah, again, of
course, there's the the asterisk
one they got to two but still like even outside of that it is not a thing that you see too often
when you look at the year like 2023 fourth place the fact that LGD is now third place this is the
tournament for me where it's like you are going to cement South America as like the one of the
regions of the year that you look towards for TI if you can get yourself into the grand finals
even if you don't want to just get into the grand finals alone is that respect you have like in the
previous tournament we're talking about play time quite a lot right it's like wow what is the South
South American team. So it's to have two teams in two separate tournaments be so kind of kind of I guess gripping to the storyline is really important for for South America and of course the rest of the year.
No they're just two really good teams and I think they also they bring a different playstyle like you can see you know the way LGD play right here the way they played yesterday with the position 5 acts Grimstrow running around like
minute 5 top and bottom and gold gate and double TP. It's it's just it's good for Dota it's good for the scene. It's great.
A certain Jessica Qua, as Quinn would quite it there.
We'll see if it continues into draft number two here,
because we want to see just exactly what adjustments
have been made on the side of Beppin.
with LGD won a game up right now in his best of three in the low bracket finals that one
game away to making it to a grand final to get the face off against Yandex. And of course,
Betbin, they're hoping to be able to bring it back here. They're hoping that they're the team
that makes it to the grand final and seeks revenge on Yandex. But it feels like right now there is
going to be a lot of adjustment on their behalf there with the draft. We are going to be seeing
LGD this time around have first pick. So that is going to be a change up than what happened in game
game number one there where Batman were able to open up the cats.
Yeah, we will see if there's going to be something known with the draft that's a little bit different.
Quinn, you already talked about it yesterday, you know, needing to ban Kyrus like maybe the
DeLone or the Pog, the generic Kyrus that people generally ban against you when you're
first pick when you have to now ban them yourselves because it just changes the whole draft dynamic.
Yeah, this stuff adds up.
I'm curious what the ramifications are going to be.
We're not sure yet based on, you know, they're still missing two bands, but the ban is not
banned yet.
It's gonna go through the thing is though the way that you ban the acts of BB if LGD is to take trial
We know the undying is a comfortable pick for BB
So now we're moving away from like the tournament method and like this is where you can say is LGD comfortable enough to go for a drought in
This position like knowing that they're a team that can deal with it even the Keds is still in poor
This is the value I guess of LGD banning in this style
You just fucked up with so many heroes that it's not as if it's like all you get one
I get one draft progressives like this like three four if not five options in play
Yeah, I'm honestly not fully sure where they're gonna take it
This has a lot to do also with like comfort and just feel going like into this game
And also what is your read on what you feel like BB will ban out in the second phase?
Now I wonder if they're gonna respond with draw like it was done to them last game because I think that one has not shown a
a propensity to pick the draw quite as much as other teams, they banned it quite a bit, and they have played it some.
But I think when you think about LGD compared to the moment, I think of LGD as playing draw way more this tournament.
So I wonder if they're as keen to play it, even though maybe it's a good matchup.
There's also the consideration that it isn't necessarily a carry-to-carry matchup that's getting picked here.
LGD have run it mid with Torna.
Which is such a good role for the hero. We haven't seen it in a little bit now, but it is so, so strong.
Also, this time around, I think Winter Wyvern is a good band for LGD.
You saw what happened last game, like the Winter did incredibly well.
It's also one of Katoma's best heroes.
I would be a little surprised if the heroes slip through,
unless they feel like, okay, there's another core you want to take out.
At the moment, they are currently kind of copying the second phase bands, right?
The tree potentially, as well.
Yeah, of course.
In hindsight, later down the draft, it might be the same argument of,
why did you ban up both of them?
Sure, they're good, but heroes like Wyvern that can dictate a lot more into your heroes.
It's been surprising because you just played like the you played the same scenario you were on the winning side
And it must have felt very good right when you had to draw a winter wyvern
So I'm a yeah, I'm a bit surprised to just see the completely same
Second-phase bands there could be the idea that they still think the support trade of if they pick up a hood here
the wyvern hood is
Pretty even and maybe more down to a skill in execution and that they're more confident that they'll execute at a higher level
Maybe so, I hope so, because there must be some sort of idea, because Winter Wyvern shuts down a lot of what Kez wants to do.
But the Bed Boom boys, they did find the Bad Ryder Band, which is very necessary.
It's very difficult, that one.
Yeah, a lot of thinking went into that, I'm sure.
But it's better, I mean, I think already Beplum is happier with this.
The other thing is, while Kez mid is pretty solid, I don't think many carries are good against Winter Wyvern.
Generally the heroes that are good against Wyvern are supports specific offlaners and mids carries tend to be the worst roll against Wyvern
Because they're generally physical damage. Yeah, which is bad against his spells
So I am curious to see if they do put the kez mid if they do what that carry pick is
All the off lane you said right? What are some of the off lane heroes?
Nightstalker Darkseer
Underlord spray decent it's Wyvern I'd say this is nice. Yeah
So they picked this against Java 4 and it looked really good
Mm-hmm. That's what's kind of curious if you're actually going to ban the Batrider or you know
They were gonna pick the Wyvern something to prevent the dark sir potentially instead
But Wyvern draw or these two heroes together are really bad against dark sir
Yeah, they pretty much will just they'll do some like right clicks and lane and then suddenly dogs disappears behind the wave
It's okay. Well, he's just gonna farm and that's about it and they do
Go for the old tried and tested spirit breaker
the dark suit. If you ever wanted to talk about a partnership that goes back in time,
this is it. The biggest bodies in the land that will happily collect an iron shell and
just run into the middle of the fights. Also, play my pocket in this game will be pretty
good because throwing it on your dark suit cares who jumps into the middle of the fight,
if you can have bulldoze up and soak the curse, Wintoeva will never really have impact in
the fight, outside of those spells being on cooldown.
They were very, very quick on the starter pick. Obviously it is quite good. It is good
against Kes, like we've seen the matchup before, but even then I think Kes does pretty fine
in the lane, even if you are to straight up lane into it 1v1.
I think the fear right now for BB is that the heroes look good outside of, like if you
did not LGD, but if they are shut down in lane with the aggression we just saw, their
comeback mechanism isn't very good, like a slot of just a blink, like you can fall out
of the game quite quickly, draw as well, like you can win your lane, but if you consistently
run out then you're always chasing an item, you're never really punching quickly into
game. So baby need to be mindful that one kind of lane counter pick for OGD, we might just see the
same game. Like Spirit Breaker Darkseid cares, they will run around the map and just do things together
like we saw in game one. Yeah, these heroes are good in lane, I will say. I mean, the big thing for
me is how this, uh, chatty is very, isn't it? It's super good against Surge and Spirit Breaker W,
so you have a lot of good stuff to purge. And you've also got a nice amount of physical damage
on beveling so having some magic on the flip side is very nice because Darkseer if he buys one crimson and just owns everyone
It's really sad or by this one pipe and owns everyone you want to have some split damage
So that especially against aura heroes so they can't just buy one aura and then aura is good against all your heroes
So it's a it's a nice mix and I imagine the mid hero will be quite magic-y as well
It should be because otherwise some crimson griefs rush
I think on Darkseer is like it's way too powerful in this game
We're back
I mean it's good with spearbreaker. We saw that last game and it's good with dark sir too
Like I can see why they pick it, but I feel like GPK has to counter pick it properly this time. Yeah
There is I was just gonna say this is also kind of forcing the slaughter to not be in mid right
You know I'm playing slaughter up against the fight
But so it feels like it narrows it down makes the bends a bit easy to your LGD
Definitely you're gonna get completely cooked if you go to the mid lane also the two subs are at least in the early game
are very bad against Viper, like these are not good heroes that are like aggressing on the hero.
And with what Quinn said too, like you want more magic damage if you're a bedroom. Obviously this
narrows down your pick pull at least a little bit going up against the Viper. Okay, to find those
heroes from mid lane, it's like you want ranged heroes that can out lane, like we don't really see
Lina mid anymore, also the build probably be more towards right click. You have nature's profit
myth that GPK has like a 20% win rate on, it can lane nicely into Viper and then just gank elsewhere,
but then you're playing into Spirit Breaker and Darkseer, so it's pretty bad.
Invoker's just been banned out.
It's not that easy for GPK to find this perfect pick for both lane and game for their team.
I think you should just get for the human pain.
Congratulations, LGD.
That was really good. I think they will do that.
I think that's really good.
Yeah, just keep that up.
Yeah. I think they should run it back, really prove themselves.
Okay, I feel like LGD's drafting of Viper in this tournament feels
I was extremely refreshing to how they drafted it before because like when they opened in first phase and even opening second phase with the hero, it gave time for people to understand what was happening, but it feels like at least in the last couple of drafts,
promoting Viper to a later pick, it really kind of controls the lineup a lot more. It feels like so much more impactful, so I'm happy to see that they have kind of learned from the previous tournaments and kind of re-perfected when and where to pick the hero.
You're a whole new man today, T.
Huh?
You're a whole new man.
Huh?
You joined the Viper?
Yeah.
An LGD Viper specifically?
Because they're drafting it a lot nicer.
They're looking at the notes in the book.
They're not just first picking Kailang Viper there.
Method of doing it.
Yeah.
It's beautiful.
This is a...
Little man, huh?
It's an interesting spot because I think
Bethlehem's best options are an anxious prophet and sniper.
But those heroes are both pretty bad against
Spirit Breaker Darkseer.
Yup.
So when you do that, you...
There's a period of really high execution where you need to not die to those ganks
And if you can get out of that then I think LGD can run into a problem where you've got three heroes need a lot of farm
None of these heroes really want to make any moves on these cores like you need the items
And so if you're behind it can be really bad for LGD
And so it may be a situation where Beplum has to sack draft integrity and say maybe our heroes aren't quite as good to have
And make a little bit less sense
But you're gonna be poor in lanes
We're gonna get to our items and it's gonna be fine for us because I think it's really difficult to pick something that's nice with
and also gets through the lane and so I think their choice should be we're going to do well in lanes
and we'll be fine in the game because we're skilled and we're not going to get run over by you.
Yeah, I don't know if you can find both. It is difficult, which is why at least from the ones we're talking about,
I would like the... I think it's just a good... If you can find a range here that goes Pyke,
which both the heroes you guys mentioned, I think they do that, like Nature does very well in the lane.
You have good support if people have to reach on you.
That's at least one of the things that SB does have to do, right?
To get ganks off, at least in the mid-game.
You're going to reach quite deep with the charge.
You also have drawranger aura for most of the range heroes that you're going to take.
So natures would be probably on top of my list.
I'm just scrolling through gtk here to remind myself.
I'm not looking at one right now, but it does feel nice.
Again, I don't really want to see Lina.
I don't really want to see Sniper based on just the time and the map that will disappear.
I can also see an argument just because survive lane on Viper.
It's like no option feels perfect.
But on the flip side, sorry.
The LGD maybe like Entra or something for KJ.
Just keep it simple, have some good lane into SD.
Run around the map, you throw some creep under the aggression that's inevitable.
And you take towers that you can twingate, take darks to the tower, you can twingate.
Then run mid, it feels kind of nice.
He just kind of got a real chill pick I feel.
I kind of think that works.
Like some early aggression, even Chen, I think Divine Favor is actually kind of Giga also
like in this type of game.
This is semi-interesting.
Okay.
Because I do wonder like, they have played it before as Pulse 5, but I do think it has
a lot to do with the fact that they are on the same train of thought that there is a
high chance that this is what BB could have looked at themselves.
Yeah.
No, 100%.
I'm not, like normally when people talk about, oh, they're picking, it's not really a thing,
but here it is.
It feels like a block pic.
It also just feels good to see just how quickly you can collapse on one hero from the side of LGD.
They see someone on the side of Bed Boom.
You know Spirit Break is charging.
You know an Aegis Prophet is going to TP in.
That just needs to be one more hero that joins them.
I think I'm going to lane swap and put Miro mid or something.
He's playing Slaughter, mid against Viper?
What?
I feel like they might actually lane swap.
Yeah, maybe.
If BBR to be eliminated from the tournament by GPK playing a cop and then a slaughter into a Viper that you've seen,
I mean, it's a quite a well-deserved elimination.
No, I mean, I think Kez is right. I think they need to win swap. I think it should be Enigma mid.
Miro, I mean, I don't think GPK plays Enigma, so it makes sense. I think it has to be that.
I think so too, because, I mean, so what would you get if... I mean, Enigma, of course, if he goes into Alphine,
he will do very well into Nature's Kez, but freeing up the SD, it's not like it changes the mid-match up,
Unless you're gonna like start dual laning where you disrupt the vibrant seems kind of cap
Oh, they could do a lane I guess but I don't know if I don't think a nigga what can soul against me
Yeah, you need to like stay top of this a little bit
But wasn't you brother instead of joining that you give a nigga like the best lane possible
He then rotates to mid with the idolans
So it's like Slado is like kind of useless for five to six minutes and let's say seven to nine like the niggler
Then comes over you take the tower you open up the map a bit
It's not the best way but at least mirror getting a last pick a nigma if he sees the lane and I will demolish it
you can often take over games because of how well the lane goes. And then to, well,
carelessness profit, Enigma should just have a chill time if his support helps him.
It's just difficult, I think, like, if... I would like if they did do the lane swap. Maybe it's a bit
weird, but if you don't, like, and then you have Enigma off lane who's a bit level starved because
he's dual-lanning, you have Sardar mid who's, like, getting starved, and then they're gonna,
they're gonna, like, dive your draw ranger. With SP, Darkseer, then there's an anxious profit TP at,
like minute five six uh yeah i i'm really intrigued to see what beppum do with this because you can
tell they were a little bit cornered on this last week they definitely weren't i can hear in your
voices right now you're a bit unsure exactly how beppum are going to make it work for themselves
a lot of heads are being scratched right now if they're going to still run that slot amid if there
will be a lane swap either way it feels like lgd have taken advantage of what feels like a very
confused beppum and maybe that's exactly what's going to get them a win in game number two i'm
and potentially make it to the Grand Finals.
Welcome, Game 2 about to begin here for Betboom Versus...
This is your cue?
LGD.
I mean, it's like, oh, come on.
You could be a little more epic than that.
LGD Gaming.
Holy shit, that was actually really good.
God damn.
It's like John Patrick Lowry is here.
What a beast.
And we have some crazy picks.
We have Drow.
I can't believe it.
Holy shit.
Incredible.
But in addition to that, we have some interesting storylines
want to pick Queen of Pain again. They picked the Slardar a little bit earlier in the draft,
like surely GPK is not playing his mid, obviously. And the Nature's Profits last pick from LGD
because they think that that Boomer is going to be picking themselves, that they can survive
against the Viper. And it's an enigma which GPK doesn't play. So, is it the lane swaps?
I think that is the best thing to do. Looks like it is. Because Slardar actually lanes
quite fine against Kez, and of course it is a Prophet 5, so yeah, and indeed it looks
like I don't remember the last time I've seen GPK play in the offline, this is pretty
cool and a necessary adjustment, and I'm just happy to see for Betboom that they're not
going into similar Travis game 1.
The Olaqor, once Drops it, slowed down, surrounded, and First Blood will be going the way of Kiritich
on the Drow.
and asked for a better start for Betboom.
And the question is, I mean,
we know that Niero can play Enigma.
We know that GPK can play the Slidar,
as we like to call him, especially with you.
But lane-swapping, when they don't play these lanes,
how big of an impact can that have on the players?
I mean, you'd like to think that it's more important
to get the right matchups
than it is to get the right teammates in lane.
I'm not expecting GPK and save
to have the same synergy in lane as you would with Miero.
This is something you build up over hundreds of games.
But I still think it's worth the sacrifice,
because the lane matches are just too bad.
If you do the other thing, I think your slaughter
will have an absolutely zero impact.
So I'm curious to see how mid goes,
because this was the trade you took.
Is this a lane that Enigma is going to win?
Obviously, we talk about it from the perspective of GPK
playing in the side lane.
But what about Miero?
How good is he at the one-to-one or 1v1 mechanics
playing into Viper. Luckily for him it is a Viper and not a high skill cap Tylong
type hero I guess. Depends on your perspective. Well Tylong can be extremely
oppressive on this hero in lane. He can't. But you have Idle on? I feel like that's not the worst match. I would say on paper this is a lane enigma even wins.
So, well, he's gonna go for the core again. He's gonna live this time but... Barely. Taking a lot of
abuse here. He will have a salve and a tango though, so we'll be back up to full sometime soon.
Yeah, I was making the point that I think LGD are picking Viper against,
against Pet Boom specifically as a targeted pick because they've made the,
it comes to the conclusion that GPK plays zero heroes this tournament that can lane against Viper.
So they effectively just blocking his entire hero pool with one pick, which is kind of crazy.
And this game probably proves that point because you could have put the slaughter offline and picked a different mid, right?
Yeah, and they just couldn't find one.
I mean, what else is there? So nature's probably talked about, is there a melee here that can exist?
Not really.
So it needs to be ranged.
Yeah.
Storm Spirit doesn't, it's barely ranged.
It's very short range.
It's also bad.
Yeah, what else does he...
So the range heroes that GPK generally plays in mid are Storm, QWOP and Sniper, I think.
Sniper is playable, but I think you lose too, honestly.
And then you're playing that archetype hero they don't want on GPK, right?
So you're probably not worried about that.
Yeah, I don't know.
Shadowfiend maybe, but again, not really the type of hero you're looking for.
So it's pretty clever.
blocks so many picks.
Yeah, LGD came in prepared for this series,
despite having a very long night yesterday.
Played, I believe, the first series of the day,
and then third series went a redonkulous amount of time.
That's the thing when you're the coach, though.
That game three is going and you're like,
oh, nice, I have an hour to prep drafts
while we play for 111 minutes,
and I know how this game is gonna end.
So, surely he was looking for his documents at eight o'clock.
I mean, in theory, you joke a bit, but technically they should be doing a little bit of that at least, even if they end up losing that game, just in case, right?
Of course you prepare. Also, they probably did some prep regardless against Beth Boomb if they were to face them at some different points.
The results have been different, but obviously you do target your preparation clearly toward your direct next opponent,
but that doesn't mean you'll ignore everything else that's happening around you much like you do in cast
yep that's right and you and relic arena
i dare you
it's a good try it's because you're so good at the game that i made
i cater to you cinder i thank you so much all i cared about is you cater to kyle i think
yeah sure completely obsessed try coming under care attention there's the tp from kj but
But the gust puts the charge to an anti-scroud plasma,
has to reroute Kiritich, trying to get away,
save with a disruption, and it's there from T. Olocor, though.
Oh, man.
That is so satisfying and so lucky.
Gaven approves on the spearbreaker bash.
The Olocor will drop to the shadow poison,
but they get the kill they came for, which is the drop.
Yeah, they get that kill 17% of the time.
Oh, well, maybe a bit more.
I guess he missed a couple of...
It's pseudo random.
Yeah, might have been 25.
We are seeing the result in mid here, Tylong is pulling ahead against the Enigma, who by
the way now might be under some fire, Charger of Darkness on the way.
Teleportation is not cool down though, but I'd imagine King Jungles will be too late
to see the replay here.
Boom!
Shaka!
Shaka!
They are gonna...
Okay, now I'm gonna keep it still.
They are gonna...
I was like, I'm creep.
I was like, is he actually gonna complete this charge through the tower?
No, you still see Ty long placing his hero very offensively was cutting between the waves here
He wants to get merit out of his siege creep
Now save will rotate over to assist and I was doing good on the levels at least
Yeah, obviously the CS is a bit
Under the gun right now 40 and five versus 30 and eight
It's probably some of these are idle on so they're only like half a CS and that's that's fair
That's uh, I mean, I think he's done it close to a draw. Yeah
So you can hope for a player that does not blame it. Yeah, and what about the GP case order?
Look at his CS 38 and 12. He's having himself a time. Yeah
It's an easy lane so expect nothing less
It's got to even have a lot more coming his way. He has a double wave on him right now
So he should be far ahead now of the Kez
Should play off lane more often apparently
That maybe there's just swap roles entirely. I'm sure Miero can play ember as well didn't work for taunt
Toronto, Tokyo though, although he made the transition of mid to support to off lane. Yeah
And I'm into off there were a couple of more steps on that
change as well, so just changing every teammate and
Region that's right and hairdo. Yes hair color. It's probably that was probably the biggest issue
There you go, it's consistency. That's that's what the being a pro athlete is all about
Just like Gatoro has a new hair to every single tournament, including no hair, he goes through
all of them in a cycle.
Much better start this time though for Bedboom.
That's the main takeaway here is all three cores have a game, unlike last game, so they
get to play to the style that they like, and the good news with playing Slugger offline
instead of Nid is sure you get slightly slower levels but you buy the same items.
So GPK can go the exact build that he would have wanted to admit anyway, which seems to
be two bracer strats and then one, I assume it's just going to be Blink, Shard, BKB.
I don't think there's any reason to get too crazy here.
And you know later that this combination of Slardar and Drow is going to kill Fools real
fast.
Fools!
That's right.
That's true.
Very scary indeed, and of course the threat of the Black Hole.
We saw yesterday the DM just dominating with, even when he missed the black holes and cancelled it, thinking that it was cancelled by somebody else and in fact it was him.
I think it has to be a broken hero then, right?
Yeah, for sure.
If you're by virtue of being in the game, you just win. That sounds like a first pick to me.
Yeah, absolutely.
Eight-minute power rune, will be top for, oh, never mind, that was denied by Kat Naomi Haste.
And GPK is going to be spotted here. Charge coming out. Racer dance is going to be cancelled though, and now the grappling claw through the north.
KJ makes his way here as well. Khrush is going to be reserved for Theola Khor.
Yuma now gets the Racer dance off onto GPK. He's broken out by Tylaan with that Viper Strike, so it'll be a support for the Offla-Woff.
Do you want to call him Offla-Woff in this game?
We'll just call him Khor and keep it safe and simple.
Okay, core. Yeah, support for core.
Proud Honda Miara.
KJ here to stop the push.
And of course the big bad mod Golem with Ion Shell is going to kill the rest of the wave.
This is obviously...
One of Darkseer's biggest assets as a hero is being able to farm in two places at once when you go helm of the Dom.
So Whisper is stacking his ancients and farming mid and farming his lane at the same time.
Very efficient Q would be proud if you wasn't busy looking at stocks all day. Yep
You just have to know like a contractual obligation to mention EE and every cat
If anybody can't say that it's you like the last person
That's the point. You've definitely mentioned him more than me even who E. Exactly. Yeah, okay
You weren't that nice just jumped on by Yuma, but there's a cold embrace the charge connects
But again, you got to back up now from save
As Yuma on the south side here, just a little bit of trouble destruction's gonna hold them in place
There's a mudgull. I'm surrounding with all these iron shells stacking up here. It's cannot withstand the pressure
Katya only will get out through the gate that could have been a pretty good enigma tipi. I think
is almost full mana on Nero and I mean you're playing mid so now you have a
little bit of a potentially different responsibility with responding to certain
moves maybe he just didn't fancy his chances he got a mid tower out of it
nice take down on the drought looking for their own move now on to Yuma's
kez timeline on the first black hole of the game before 35 minutes
Come on you gotta be a little bit he'll beat DM
You can do it. Do you think it will be in the next two minutes? No
I'm gonna say
Okay, I'm gonna say in the next three minutes 13 30. Okay 13 37 give me the lead that is here. Yeah
I'm pressured to tier one now congratulations. I'm showing your age me if it was a
Current gamers they would say 13 13 67. It's a portion number of seconds in a minute
Very good. There you go. How'd it help?
Should be okay getting pretty close to the blink dagger already.
Getting out of nice stack creeps here.
Not the most efficient, but...
Not bad. So here we go, blink into shard in all likelihood with, uh,
Well, does he go BKB? They have two BKB piercing abilities instead of four this time around for LGD.
Is that a kez left?
Yep.
Okay.
You couldn't tell it was a chicken? Tell me what a chicken like to me.
Alright, tier one uncontested. Mial claims it.
LGD seem to be kind of content with how the game is being played out. I mean who's happier in this position right now?
Probably Beth Boone because it's not like game one. I think comparatively...
This already feels like you're, how to say, you have a say in the outcome of the game more so than you did in the previous one post draft.
And they're line up scales really well. Enigma late game is obviously a piece, so is Drow.
You have the amp from Slardar, you have really strong late game supports, every single hero on the Radiant goes to distance with no problems.
And this will be the Blink Dagger Reveal Whisper, two level advantage on GPK right now, he's going to get crushed to start things out with the bash to follow.
And Surge, yeah.
Demonic Surge comes out so nowhere to go for Whisper, good kill from Bed Boom.
Nice and easy, yeah.
And is it going to be chicken on the menu? Not as high quality meat as Kaz, but they'll take it.
The spirit vessel finished on the nature's profit. He's really rich on drow for having two deaths.
Impressive.
He's ahead by 1500 against Kaz in spite of two deaths, but Kaz obviously 30 CS behind.
I believe Kez has the mage slayer on the way, I would assume.
That'll help his farm quite a bit.
Oh, hello, okay, okay, runs right into the old Drow Ranger, and of course Yuma is there to cancel the TP.
Oh, this is gonna be the third deck, as KJ will claim it from Global Range.
It's really telling about mage slayer as an item that you buy it on Kez against basically zero heroes you want the Spell Damage reduction against.
It's okay against enigma, but it's not like some clop ember you get it for the damage over time on creeps, right?
Damage over time keeper battle theory perseverance is amazing. You want the mono regen on this hero?
Magic resists kind of irrelevant this game actually so if you're still buying it here, then it's just too good
They nerfed it again in the D version. Why does it need to do damage over time? Why is that part of it? Oh, you tell me I
Thought it was supposed to be anti spell. Yeah
That's what the identity should be, not the damage over time, if anything, should be the side piece.
It's called mage layer, not jungles layer, but apparently everybody in the jungle is a wizard.
It's all good.
Caretetch despite the three deaths still, top net worth, and I guess that's good news for Betboom, because LGD, they don't have anybody
farming up a storm. Kaz is going to start catching up now. The Viper, I was expecting
Whisper to be more farm and not that he's not farm, but...
This is an interesting smoke because there's no inherently obvious timing to this. You
didn't just pick up an item of any kind, Enigma still doesn't have a blink. It's just going
to be hard for Miro to find the initiation. He has a vessel though. And they're doing
it without the Slardar and they're doing it toward no objective. There's no wisdom to
You can't just blindly hit this tower. I guess they kind of smoked primarily to place vision and then they were hoping for
Perhaps a little bit of a skirmish, but
All they get is this lane ward
Sometimes being random is to your benefit. This is nice by the way you see they had there's an odd
There's a dire ops down here, and they see that with their ops entry, but they're
waiting
They're letting it stand there to try to bait a response and not let the enemy team know that they've played wards of their own
How long are we gonna let it stay there though off now the siege creeps destroying it, so that's a dead giveaway
Goddamn creep eventually
Look at that range trebuchet would take that on one go hmm
That's one of the features of trebuchet one shots warps very useful
was for cleaning up with the Centaur-Ian-Shell combo
while he's jungling.
That move probably cost him a thousand gold, actually.
It just seems like it could.
Walking over there to place that ward
and then kind of doing nothing.
In the meantime, the dire line is just farming.
And this is obviously one of the upsides to, once again,
I think the criminally underrated hero of the patch
in this tournament of profit.
Whatever role you play him in,
these slow games, farms everywhere he wants,
joins all the moves, takes towers,
And even for King Jungles, who generally speaking, almost never buy scaling items in his builds.
He has the luxury of doing it on this here if he wants to.
So far it looks like Axe will be the plan he's bought the Shard now.
So it's going to be the Curse of the Old Growth, really nice.
Similar logic to the Spirit Breaker, give vision of targets so Viper can hit them in trees, so Kez can chase.
It's going to feel like an awesome upgrade for them.
This is not the old curse of the old growth the radius was reduced from I believe 1200 to 900. It's still pretty big surgery.
Crush initiation on a Yuma. Yellow core is gonna force them back though.
Now to the spell Yuma's fine. You're talking about the Shard right? Yeah. The Ags.
He's going Ags next.
It's interesting that what's the reasoning for going Ags so early?
There's so many different items you can get on this hero.
Um, I mean, it plays in, if you're playing it as a support, it just plays in very well
to how you're trying to play the game, just, it's an additional global aspect to your hero.
It's cost efficient, AoE root, reliably going to hit everybody.
Um, the stats are nice on a support, it's good to become tankier.
So it's kind of, I would say support prophet has two general build paths, this is one of
them, and the other one is to actually become a fourth core.
But that's not how King Jungles generally plays so this is just standard. I think he's gonna go this and then maybe a hex
At the only curse
By the forest himself. Yeah, that is unfortunate. We saw this yesterday against an enigma. Yep
Seeing the treants now take the place of the idolons is now blink dagger there for Miro
He gets a vessel charge for dying though, so it was worth from GP take
Chargers coming in a nice black hole coming out
out onto two, which will result in two kills.
It was the 18-minute mark, so just five minutes off.
Pretty close, Sharon.
Good job.
Just imagine double this time is what the first black hole
was yesterday.
Yeah, I don't even need to imagine.
I was there.
It was riveting.
Imagine, do you remember?
Do you remember?
I remember.
Look at that damage.
Wyvern, 1,100 with the curse.
Yeah.
Oh, there's obviously some other elements in there,
but the majority of it is physical.
A couple of nice picks for BedBoom stabilizing the game again.
It was starting to look like LG were just getting more out of the map, but now we're
back to square one, basically zero.
And something that the dire lineup doesn't really have is ways to stop VKB Blackhole.
They only have Spiritbreaker ult, which is not even reliable because you need to be angled
correctly relative to the Blackhole yourself.
You need to not be in it.
Your status resistance doesn't matter for that, obviously.
And as done from Kez for using Raven's Veil.
So not any obvious long range cancel.
That pierces?
The stun from Shadowside pierces, because...
Of course it does.
Yeah, of course.
Why wouldn't it?
It's a ridiculous thing.
Don't worry, don't be nerfed again.
And all the Kez fans on the radio will be like, oh my god, they've put you, my favorite hero,
and he's just always good.
Always.
Tell us how you really feel.
Yeah, that's how I really feel.
Tie along with the Aegis as the Tier 1 gets denied. That's interesting.
I don't usually see it on a Viper this early.
What is the opting for? Is it the Cookie Cutter build? Has Dragon Lance, Manta?
Yeah.
It's going to go Manta-Pike, yeah.
And they're going to group up for this Tormentor as well.
So similar play to Game 1.
Yeah, but this time without 8k gold.
True. So, pretty significant difference in that regard.
Shard will go to either Spiritbreaker or the Kez, who's third on net worth.
SP will be the winner again, unfortunate really, because I think the magic's just borderline useless here.
I guess unless you do some sort of clutch redirect of a curse or whatever.
I guess if you take the demonic purge instead of your darks here, that could be interesting.
Or your viper.
There's a hero I would want safe to play in an elimination game, Shadow Demon is in the
top three, trying to limit his impact.
The SP could be something.
Going straight to the KD this time, Theolicor, no build up items.
I have to say, despite getting this mage player, still bottom net worth of the cores,
Kaz, that's not really surprising, I think the hero needs a buff, yeah, for sure.
Maybe a built-in battle theory. Yep, since he's not buying it anymore. Anyway, well echo slash already is kind of
So you can have another one
Plus one echo slash. Yeah base
It's all good
So what can LGD do with his Aegis?
They have a lot of towers. They still need to get there. There's still a tier one top all the tier twos
It's tough to force anything because they don't think you're inherently favored in a
type of teamfight.
You can try to look for a Stramish.
If you get a smoke and a good charge, enemy team is a little bit out of formation then
maybe but you have to respect the Black Hole, you have to respect Curse.
And of course, if you go on a single target and you haven't accounted for where Shadowed
even is, this is the problem for Spirit Breaker in that matchup is you charge someone, that
hero gets disrupted, you get purged, you die.
And you didn't really accomplish anything except forcing a disruption.
True.
So it's definitely not easy and a big props for the Shadow even taking the scheme thing
is very good.
Miero charged up, KJ joins the party, another strike into Tyrone's right click that will
be the kill onto Miero.
They managed to do just what they needed to do, which was find a straggler somewhere.
Get the play gone.
Get the play gone.
You're gonna die.
Oh dear.
So the Vessel plus Eidolon on slot.
That's that shard on Enigma.
Being put to good use.
Still looking for the tower.
I don't think they're gonna get this one.
BKB now in line for GPK.
Is there gonna smoke up?
I mean, Miano's up in 20 and he still has Black Hole.
The only thing you read to be very worried about here for Bedboom is not to get vacuum combo.
As you approach and well LGD seem aware of that. I don't think we've seen vacuum or wall the entire game
Well, that's the new enigma. I guess. Yeah, is this how you play offline in this patch? You just don't cast your spells
I could be good at offline
Well, you're not gonna follow you have to farm all the time you actually get you hate that
You have to be goes off the blink dagger
Love in the jungle charge not to save and the silence and the death coming
Well then, let's keep them alive a little bit longer.
Is he going to take away the disrupting stuff that's going to be?
Well, first, only on the one.
Black hole comes out again, only onto one.
He's going to have enough damage on the whisper.
And I still will crush from GPK, with that BKB activated.
Miya is going to get taken out eventually.
Is Yuma still alive as Thylon getting on him by the draw ranger?
But meanwhile, GPK getting isolated.
One versus two gets snatched, struck, and killed off.
Eventually, it's a four for one so far,
with a buyback on the shadow demon.
So LGD absolutely destroying this fight.
MVP talent toss twice in a row from Yuma the first one gets shadowed even down to 2% HP
He has to still if disrupt doesn't get to play the fight at all the second talent toss
He sounds as the enigma after two seconds of black hole
Really nice collapsed play here from LGD look at the replay here
So nicely trying silence together with the profit coming in good cold embrace to come alive and allow to disrupt himself
But that's a man back wall. Pay attention to the enigma here again. GPK gets the crush here
But the talent loss first.
Tylon on his Viper.
You know in the end, obviously this is in the heat of the moment, but Beth Boomb having to use Colden Brace and Disruption on Shadow Demon, who dies right after Disruption ends.
That's two big spells wasted effectively.
That is very true. It would have been better for him to just die by Beth.
Yeah.
I'll take the tower as well. This is a huge swing. Two minutes of 6k gold, basically, for LGD.
Yeah, Aegis is down. LGD out. A little bit more comfortable position, 5k lead.
Yeah, they know Black Hole's on cooldown, so this is just a power play. You have everything ready again.
You're already sure that you can win a fight against Black Hole. Oh my gosh, Shadow Demon, it's in trouble again.
And another strike to follow, he is dead, that's a dive back effectively.
Kyrgyz is now focusing onto the nature's profit, he is just in support though, so one
for one to start things out.
Nice vacuum on to two, attempted TP, first down, Kata Omi, Drow is out, he is good to
go, and now the darts here are getting turned on by his team, so LGD is staying around a
little bit too long, good counter initiation there from Kata Omi.
That is such an important curse, Drow is 100% dead there.
The Centaur creep was approaching for a stomp but got into the curse radius so couldn't
cast spell.
Deserved tip there from save onto Katsumi, recognizing that this was a very dangerous
moment in the game and kept things stable.
You're going to see the replay here.
So first of all the Prophet will, you see the charging spirit break, you can't blink
on SD, your cast times are too long.
Okay, just going to TP in and place a ward for info for this follow fight.
Pay attention now to the curse here after the back wall.
The centaur is coming in from the top right, and it will probably make the stomp here,
but there it gets redirected.
So can't quite get that stun on the Drow.
This would have been a good fight for LGD, even with a dead Darkseer if they would have
just stomp Drow's TP out.
So now, once again stabilizing, very back and forth affair this one.
And that's exactly what we want to see.
So Miero, almost done with his BKB. That is going to be very big.
Yep.
Don't have to worry about Talon Toss anymore.
No one has to worry about Kez's other ability.
That's right.
That's fine. Keep it up, Kez.
And Kez could go Bash at some points.
He could. Yeah, that's true.
He probably won't.
Since he already has us done, but great suggestion.
Thank you.
Just saying if it becomes a problem.
profit he's ranged so he can hit an ignite outside the black hole hey we've
seen wait what hero was that coddle with a pistol that's right that's because
of the full abyssal or so he got cast range from his old so it actually it
had some merit now it's fine I don't think I've ever seen a pistol on profit
maybe when it was the old build potentially which old build have
I mean, the old basher. Oh, the old abyssal. That is I don't remember the exact recipe, but I mean I
Remember back in Dota 1. We'd see basher sniper syndrome. Yeah good stuff
Everybody really didn't know what they were doing back then. It was a great time
I feel like there must be a situation where it makes a little bit of sense got a headshot and basher
Hey, you get a lower percentage, but you're attacking really fast. You know, you know
try that in your turbo games the
I mean that's where the pros get all their information is turbo games. Yeah, I'm sure the Zeus afk fountain is a classic turbo strat
I mean it was yeah actually literally. Yeah, you see the reddit, right?
I don't think that's where they got it from
I think it's because they played a game in which they were against that you don't think that they saw that reddit clip and
I inspired them
Maybe inspired the opponent that they played against that did it and they were like this was really annoying to play against
Let's do that. That's how it works. I guess started with turbos in there. It all starts in turbo give credit
we're credited to. All right, you meme, but that is where all the late game situations are because
every game has late games. That's true. You're getting a little glimpse. You'll get to try some
insane strats. But at the same time, if you have a theory of something being broken, you could also
go into demo mode and just put the items on your hero. Yeah, you could, but not everybody's a nerd.
I think the target dummy in the demo mode might be better than the average servo player. So it's
Probably very accurate certainly has more HP. All right, gotta smoke now
Better you can't die
The dummy lives forever
I'm a 4k leave here for LGD as Roche is up and running. It's funny memeing on turbo
I don't even dislike it. It's just funny to me when it as you you hate it. So my god, that's absolutely
I mean late game Dota is the most fun to play, so why not
Amplify your experience. Well, this is a philosophical question. Is it late game then in turbo? Is it just mid game?
That's a good question not to think have to ponder that as we cast this very important game don't think too hard
It's not your forte
I mean
Blink dagger or cat to omie had a good curse before without it now and get in very good position
They get some good vision here in the triangle.
This is a very strong setup for LGD, but I don't know if they have any ops left.
I think they already spent...no, they had one more.
Okay, they got the helicopter, we'll place it.
Warped backboom to walk up here.
This could be completely disastrous.
So much good coverage currently.
LGD with a ward in the top lane and on the hill.
And while these wards are usually obvious, gotta go there to be warded, eventually, or
not play the area for six minutes.
It's daytime, this makes things easier.
Bet them under the cover of Smoke though.
Yeah, looking to open things up potentially.
TPK is going to be the one to show.
And again, another boon to having profit in all these stalemate situations.
King Jungles is just going to be all around the field up easily.
Nice fight.
Yeah, this should give them the D-Ward too, for Kiritich.
Yeah, LG just have to call it quits. Mission failed. I do like the idea, but it didn't quite work out that time.
At the very least for them, King Jumbil's as mentioned was pushing out bot.
Presruption. Time to tie along.
Got the AC now. Crush comes out from GPK. Lots of damage. Even popping a BKB just to ensure and the black hole. Okay.
They really want to tie along dead and they will get him.
Now, if this opens up Roche, and that's going to be beautiful news for Beto.
Crush comes out again GPK getting pretty low though disrupt you can try to keep a lot of spirit it absolutely destroys KJ
And GPK somehow gonna get out of this
That's three dead for LGD effectively now the rush should be bet them
To give or to get they have that amplified damage GPK back up to a respectful amount of HP
Getting a lot of merit out of this ending well
Sure, it's a one-man black along the Viper, but it gets them the key kill.
Now with an Aegis on to Drow, things are likely to slow down in a big way once more.
I'm so curious to see what KJ does if this goes late.
He's currently queuing up a Pike, so that is the beginning of a late game profit build.
Yeah, just play for it.
Get that bobble, eventually, too.
It's also just a high value item, because you're looking at the matchwork you have against a hero like Slardar, you can maybe distance yourself, you can save a teammate with the defensive component of the force staff.
So it still has that supporting element to it.
But I have to say, they haven't got all that much out of the aggs.
You want to look to find fights with that, that you can play on the tempo, but that boom has not been caught off guard really.
Yeah, that's true.
Which essentially means like...
That's the thing about buying items like this on profit, whether you play it mid or support is...
Every passing minute that this doesn't find impact, you could have farmed faster.
So, essentially this axe has cost him more than 4.2k gold, cause it's also cost the farming speed that a maelstrom would have given him.
So it probably cost like 6k at this point, this axe, versus the other build.
You really want some value.
He's gonna switch to a ghost scepter.
Is it going to upgrade that perhaps?
He's not buying it yet.
Make sense against Slardar and Drow. They have a crimson as well to mitigate a little bit of this damage, along with the assault onto Tylong.
I think Shiva's is also being built by Darkseer, so they're going every armor item in the book.
I guess Lotus would be the last one I can think of that is high value, although how much does it take off this game?
game it's the corrosive haze gust I mean it's good against winter alfars
theoretically that could block the curse which can be huge I think that would
not be a bad purchase but spirit breaker is queuing up she does number two
okay I kind of like the lotus I think haze gust Malafis is already a good
enough argument to buy at least one but maybe they're just worried that well
It's gonna go late. He's gonna get corrosive pays undispellable
So good against the rest though. Yeah
Towers gone easy pickings for drill
They're fine and charged coming out frost shield and defensive measure here for the drought
Here's this they'd like to burn this as they get the vacuum and the wall
But no follow-up and now the surge away so LGD
We're thinking about
Getting in on there, but not happening. So two minutes on the ages. It's really difficult with the double Lincoln's
That's one placed on her by the enigma has won herself
Your initiation is so heavily reliant on spirit breaker now
You can break the linkage with wrath of nature, which is what they did
The reason they were able to charge characters was that they caught the Lincoln's before the defensive one was placed by
Enigma so that is small moment of opportunity. The problem is even if you get charged through you can't hold
Because then the defensive one already came out from an ignorance, you couldn't commit fully for the play. It was a nice attempt, but not quite.
Now the second tower. Not long for this world. That boom.
About to...
...themselves in a better poop. Look at the net worth difference here. I just realized just how far the draw is.
Almost 6k on the cat.
Yeah, that's true.
Drow has had a very good tournament this time around, is we have the Roche Banner place
for Bethbombs, so High Ground is what they are setting their eyes on at the moment.
Ty Long.
We'll throw out a Viper, Striker, and yeah, one more hit should take out the Banner.
We do have options for that.
This is not easy to push into against Darkseer.
You have to be very wary that you don't clump up.
Doesn't have a wall at the moment.
Just vacuum she was with a charge is actually devastating echo slash
I've certain things that speaking of charge. What do you think of the spearbreaker eggs?
That's something that anybody in pro games would go for at any point
Probably not after it got fixed. I know bug. It was who was it instigating a meepo, right? Yeah illusion based heroes
It was so stupid funny
No, I don't think it's a good enough value proposition I
I can theory maybe you can run this on a core if you get farmed enough, but then you're
playing core spirit breaker and seem to farm fast enough and lane well enough, just too
many downsides.
So they are going to hold.
This is a game that I still feel like theoretically just inherently favors the radiant at this
point until the end.
I just think their line of a stronger late game
Minus armor becomes incredibly powerful in a lot of late game king shadow demon and wyvern
Took the absolute best supports late game, but chicken
Can chicken conquer all of those issues? It didn't yesterday
Black hole rain supreme
And the King jungles is gonna kill the hex now
So he's been through the entire library of items and you can't just mind every two minutes if you find the ghost I
Kind of like that because the way he's been playing fights is that he teleports in places of work, and then he dies
With ghosts after he's either gonna force out a demonic purge or he's going to survive and cast his other spells
just
Have impact for that much longer
You know of course he is buying the plate mail
I wonder if we'll change this build up though.
I can't help but feel like this is a position 5 profit.
The way this game has been played, if he went farm heavy, he could have had almost 20k net worth.
Actually.
At this point.
You gotta at least have 15k.
I mean, we've seen it before, for sure.
9 class in this game would have gone maelstrom, and he would have been big.
And I'm not saying that's better, it's just different.
But considering-
You kind of are saying it's better this game.
I'm not saying it's better this game.
I'm saying with what happened, it would have been better.
You can't at the time that he's making this decision. You're not like, okay
This is definitely happening in the neck. Yeah, but you can hear that now. Yeah in hindsight. I think this was not the right idea
But I liked it at the time for what it was signaling. They wanted to do they just haven't managed to so now it sucks
I
Guess the hope at this point is that you can use this to break a link ins and and or well then the axe doesn't even matter, right?
but
Hope to maybe force a BKB with just the route itself at the right opportunity moment
It'd be kind of nice
Yeah, the longer this game goes the more I do favor bet them as well
Enigma BKB blink Lincoln's Shiva's refresher to come now. Yeah
Or if they just get the next roast they can get the shard as a stop gap
Yeah.
Harpoon now for GPK.
Some more reach.
Ideally wants to...
You just want to play in tandem with Drau.
The target is actually not even that important, I think.
You just want to make sure that Drau is hitting whoever is hazed.
You can't put allies with that, can you?
With Harpoon?
No, I don't think so.
Only trees in the museum.
That would be nice.
Can you pull yourself toward allies? Yeah
Like they'll hurt like hell so much just throws our prune at you and deals deal a hundred damage to your ally
Just like the old toss
No, that's true. I missed that damage to allies
She totally forgot that
Nice little detail
7k net worth advantage between the drow and kez crazy difference. That means the rest of their line is behind
Yeah, the profit I think
There's only a thousand...
That's the thing, right?
It's a five-profit in a stalemate game, and he's barely beating the enemy's Shadow Demon.
That's just not very inspiring to see, really.
I think even in spite of his build, King Jungus could absolutely prioritize farming more than he has been.
Whisper has his shards. You can see little glowy trails now all over the place
Yeah, draw with the DKB purchase. Was that full BKB? She's six-slotted now 40 minutes
fully six-slotted this is
replacement for treads, so we're basically
Closing in on maxed out
Didn't go eggs. No, you had a lot lately, too
You get that silver edge though for a little bit extra move speed
And the break on I guess the viper is the main target for the break if you were
Caring about that. Yeah
You should
Smoke from LGD through the North Miero is he gonna get jump box the BKB though looking for the black hole target
Can't find it at least not yet. Thank you. No
That's here. It's focusing on the fat cow for the time being
It's no way to talk about your mother.
What?
Okay, gone.
Okay.
Random comment that had no, made no sense at all.
That's right.
That's how you roll.
Roche just spawned.
Nothing big was really used.
I mean, I guess, wall.
You're gonna try for it.
Roche Belch.
Oh, Jesus.
Look at those crits.
Oh, he's gonna get before they even get close.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, Jesus, look at those crits.
Oh, he's gonna get this before they even get close.
Oh, my God.
Geratich.
With the H-style, did he jump in?
Oh, you had to pick up your goodies, my friend.
Whackle, just on the Viper, and that's
gonna cost him his life.
Down to meanwhile, GPK with a nice crush onto two heroes.
Get the Marpoon onto the cow as well.
This is a double crush again, and this physical damage
is out of control for Geratich and company.
Three for nothing, as Yuma, using one of his 20 abilities
to try to get away. We'll do so along with Whisper.
Next level bait from Kiritich was slow to pick up the Aegis and it made it
Tylong to try to blink in and take it.
Then he's just completely separated.
Did they get anything?
I don't think he got anything. No, not even the banner.
Who has the shard?
Was that Roche 3? Oh yeah, it was. Enigma has the shard.
Disaster strategy day, so Batboom, huge advantage now.
11k they have all the goodies. They have a draw with an Aegis and now you can go high ground
And without a buyback onto Tylo, this is gonna be at least a set
Banner places well and it the fact that there's still a second black hole
That's true. It's very worrisome here for LG. What do you even do?
And that's going to be the mid lane, left to the illusions, 10 seconds for Tylon, so
LGD if you're going to fight, this is probably close to the time.
How we're already taking out here, Tish, going to reposition 3.5 minutes on Aegis, so plenty
of time.
As the rest of his team is smoked up behind him, she's looking for an opening here.
Well, they really have to do if they want to play it safe.
Just wait for somebody to be out of position, LGD.
Get a pick off.
Things go high ground again.
Oh, he's the Oxerene as well.
What is this?
Enigma easily second in net worth, Miero.
And look at this slow pickup.
Yeah.
Actually worked in his favor.
A lot of it's worth out of him, even though he went that fight to get the Aegis.
I think your position is so compromised.
You can see Corrosive Haze plus Trowel, it hurts.
Yep.
Even a Shadowblade purchased by Katomie.
All the positioning items, Blink, Shadowblade, Force Staff.
It's all about getting the curse and the heal. That's the Sierra Lake game.
Your other abilities aren't really that important.
and
she really staying in Halberd and see that on the hotman
of the
seven farming bill to get halberds and their favorite
Now the question is, you have two minutes, can you make it to top here?
I would think so.
They have to take the tier two first, the wave is pushed out very far by profit.
Here it's obviously going to start making his way over there.
The hope here for LGD's side is that you're definitely losing your tier two, you're just
hoping the ages expire before the siege of the third lane.
a minute and a half to go.
I think they can make it as well.
One glyph remaining.
80 seconds.
I mean, they're obviously not going to fight into the 8th point.
They still have a banner?
I don't think so.
No. No banner.
If that's been looking to push this to a game 3, looking very likely at this point.
Yeah, that pivot of the Slaura to Offlane was very good this game.
Just on our mid on the ages now.
Backpacking both Cheese and BTB.
Here, Titch, focusing Tier 3, Ty Lungy Company, attempting to delay.
a lot of archers 40 seconds another crimson guard to mitigate a bit of this
damage my caretich like you said six slotted and then some power down and
out keeps using his flares both I noticed that he remembers to use that
item you know very important for players know how to click buttons that's good
to know center thank you so much they all forget all the time
destroyed has the buyback to the black hole on the back line onto the chicken
man all alone as the most shocking a decent amount of damage a second black hole
This time off the two and that should surely do a buyback galore for LGD as they are melting under the pressure of puritich
Is right clicks hurt big time pops the BKB is the agent will expire going on top of Thailand though
There's the cold embrace to try to save him as Yuma try to position himself on the glacier
This period is just steps out pops the cheese and now seemingly
Involverable at this point gets off the hurricane by you with a nice Raptor dance though
I don't know your heal.
Getting healed as Cole's embraced, doing work in this fight.
Backing comes up, and they finally kill off Keratich.
As the buyback comes up from GPK, Tripp will kill for Yuma.
It's again, heavy cost though. They've lost every Rax except for their one melee in the top lane.
And they just buy 5 back on everyone.
Five of them.
So if you're Batboom, you just wait.
Yeah.
For Blackhole.
Yes.
And just absolutely go end.
Wait for the two Blackholes.
Alright, excuse me, only one. He doesn't quite have the refresher yet, but close two, or you wait maybe for the Aegis as well if you feel like it.
But yeah, look at this damage onto the Viper. One, two, three. Holy shit. That is not crit-less. You're disgusting.
Really nice footwork from Heritage this fight. It's a lot of little things.
How did the Halberd work out?
Yeah, great pick.
Oh, he had to hear it.
BKB popped up.
He was cold and grapes three times in this fight.
It's okay.
Liverin is very good against Kess.
A clear reason why they pick it.
Oh, yeah, I'm in the ground.
It was Fall of actually as,
Whoa, what is this?
LGV in the enemy base.
Foley Orlo.
Yeah, I respect it.
I'm trying to force some buyback,
but there's a curse.
Not gonna be that much damage, but holds him in place, comes into the flight, GPK, nearby, looking for the crush play, we'll get it, DKB though from Kess.
We'll try to grapple and claw on the GPK, but he gets back to baiting.
They're going for Trout!
Trout lies back, gets the kill.
Why?
Goes set their TP.
Crush is gonna stop that in his place, so KJ is dead.
And Yumak, this might be a dieback for him, if they can just trickle him down with that Shadow Poison, it's enough from save.
It's a dieback on hero number two for LGD.
Now that drow by back doesn't really matter because you killed Kez that felt so unnecessary you had complete control of that situation your base defense
They're really good. I don't even think it matters. I think they would have defended with four regardless
I believe it was enigma who had yet to respawn aside from drown that was only five seconds, so either way high pressure moment
Okay, look at the replay here like this curse is already fine only five seconds
Slardar goes for the crush
She buys back with
I guess she thought the buyback was a guaranteed kill on Kez which it ended up being a kill
But that was kind of close. Yeah, if save hadn't clutched it up here with the shadow poison's in the catch on the disruption
The last tick my god sometimes the margins are so thin
But this is definitely bare minimum megas
With no chicken man and two black holes ready good luck to LGD. That's indeed
Mega creeps online and the tier fours will now start taking some damage
And by some I mean a shit ton 45 seconds for chicken man. They have to fight for fun
There's no way they can stall 40 seconds. Nope in their baits not a shot here for number one death
What's the angle here? I'll probably from top right
Well, what is this?
Oh, they have no waves. Good job, King Drungles.
They pan still enough.
I can't believe he got all three waves.
I thought they would at least be able to protect one of them, considering Kez is dead.
But, I'm just a little bit of a lax in judgment or focus.
So it gives LGD a last fighting chance.
So LGD, their chance here is to kill Drow.
Yes.
No buyback.
They have to kill Drow.
But you still have to worry about double DKB.
I mean, they somehow, could you imagine they somehow kill Drow first in the next fight?
It's actually still winnable because she bought that.
And I think you have to be eager to fight here.
This is the type of situation where you push out the waves a bit, go for a fast smoke and just hope you find her.
Yeah.
And I would, I would make a case for Kirito to actually just
playing super defensive with both supports next to him or even hiding in base for five minutes.
I genuinely think that might be the best play.
Yeah, we all want to see that
It's just you then you're risking giving away a Roche or well you will be conceding one
But only if LGD even try to go for that. There's a chance they also wait for their
Bibex, and obviously they're under the constant siege of the siege creeps mega creeps that is
We'll see if that Bibex ends up biting them in the ass 10 seconds for Roche though, so if LGD is gonna do something it has to be now
Otherwise we saw how fast this roast goes down and you get to just if you get to just game has
Like you you can't let them have this. Well, I think it's dope. Hello. He's hot
It's too late. This guy's in less than 10 seconds
You keep it down
No, are you pretty close?
So you've got it. You say I got it. I'll say did I get it? It was close. I didn't
You don't need to just look at the timer.
Yeah, but I didn't.
Why don't you do things?
It's exhausting.
You can relate to that.
Yeah, I guess you do nothing.
Oh, yeah, I love nothing.
All right, so Aegis, all the goodies again for Pet Boom.
What can LGD do other than type GG at this point?
Clicking type BG.
That's bad manners though. Going to a game 3. You don't want to say BG.
Maybe we like the BG's.
Unless you're emo and you can type a question mark. I don't think there's any...
That's usually for comebacks, not for we lost, but...
True.
At that point it was only 2-1 though.
I think you have to kill Enigma.
Drow is not an option anymore because she has Aegis, so if you can somehow kill Enigma first,
The arrow doesn't have travel, so you can't instantly rejoin the fight, like, it's just, it's so difficult.
Alright, heritage, one more tower to get through, banner placed.
And it will be given freely, the holo-car.
Okay, was trying to charge not gonna happen. No 19 K lead for that boom
LGD what exactly are they waiting for ancient exposed now?
Sprout
Get vision from shuttle poison. Yeah
Ancient already a half-half though and on the glacier here dish will continue to right quick unless you do something there
We go silent jumping gets the biker strike on to the ground ranger looking for the potential
But there's the black hole only onto one right now.
Is it going to burn the Aegis already?
It's Niero, second black hole, but no, he's going to die before he can get it off.
And now Kyrgyz on the run, pops the VKB, gets the gust off, there's no trying to run away.
The Colombrace self-use on the Wyvern buyback now.
From the Enigma, Tylong and company have to deal with the creeps.
So double kill from Whisper.
Three buybacks from Zephyr, they could still finish this game if they just group up.
They get the kill out of the cow and no buyback for him.
And the jump back in, Whisper gets gone, un-gusted up.
There's the crush though from GPK onto Yuma.
He gets black hole at the last moment, and that should surely do it.
They get Tylong as well, that's going to create more buybacks.
The back team onto several here with no follow-up whatsoever,
but Yuma coming in at the last moment again, going for Miero.
It's going to be a dieback on him, but he's able to survive just a little bit longer.
Try to go for the throw, there's a cold embrace onto the drawranger.
GPK's focusing the throw now as well.
The fuck-ification finally comes out. How are they even holding this right now?
Now they're gonna get the right thing to do, they're talking to the ground.
Double kill for you, Moth!
As GTK going all out, on this age, with the Sprouse gonna surround it for now.
And now the chicken man going to work.
Ancient super low as Whisper coming with the blade now.
They get a full team who are the Hussest Bad Booms!
How is that even fucking possible?!
Holy shit!
There is no way, there is no way they just defended it.
There's no fucking way.
That is disgusting!
How many advantages did they just have?
They had all their 5x, Aegis, Cheese, they got two Black Holes off.
They've got 90 seconds to run it down mid here.
Yeah, there's only one hero with 5x right now.
And totally the Slards are.
I mean, is this a situation where Slardar you have to try to get to the Ancient,
but it's going to start healing up now.
Yeah, it's not possible. All the waves are going to get pushed by Prophet. No shot.
Is this game over?
70 seconds.
Time's ticking here.
They have, they're going to have, wait, do they have glyph?
They don't have glyph, so they're only going to get the one glyph from the melee.
The melee racks here.
Oh boy, it's sinking in.
This is bad.
You get one tower and you go thrown.
This is real bad.
Look at these buybacks.
So GPK has the sole buyback right now for Betboom.
The no buyback team, as some would call them,
As Tylong going for the racks, actually,
and the survivors are going thrown.
There we go, you must.
That's the picture.
There's the one buyback.
36 seconds for the Drow Ranger.
They're not going to get the glyph because they're
going to surprise the racks.
Now, so two up.
There's the back wall from Whisper.
Onto Kiritich.
Pops to Crimson.
Tier four down.
Second tier four now being focused by LGD.
Can they hold on?
That's boom.
There's buybacks.
For their respawn timers, are going to be up pretty soon.
There's another back.
Even though they get the slaughter now, half HP.
Got positive he could be focusing on Kierzitsch now trying to get back to found he's super low
We'll be able to get back as the tier 4 is still getting low
Tylon with that shard doing a lot of neighbors not focusing
There's them Black Hole coming in onto the chicken man that's enough
But Tylon trying to focus the AT he cannot has to back away
Back he had the wall as well where's Tylon to hit that throne Black Hole again coming out
That's gonna be several kills now going the way of that boom they held on
Jesus H. Oh my god
And now imagine Characters doesn't get 5 back ready there, it is actually over.
He has to come up and have to pose a bit of a threat here together with Sardar to force
LGD's hand to spend precious seconds chasing him down, but this turnaround with the Satanic
is going to stabilize.
And two back to back good black holes here, the first one on Kez and then the second one
obviously on 2 immediately after.
Nice play by Tylen to blink out there.
He's got a hundred percent of his sticks around, but this seals the deal.
Yeah.
And now, I was about to say, surely it's over, but man, you never know, somehow in this 3v4,
if LGD somehow managed to hold this, that'll be equally ridiculous.
No way.
There is no way, right?
No way, ancient.
It's charged.
It has health.
It's a little bit.
Yeah, Eandis already proper, I am.
And Tylong's front line, he's focusing the Throne again, gets Viper stricken though.
Trying to get you ignoring everybody, just going for Throne along with the Enigma and Miaro company.
They do get the game 2 victory. Almost a complete disaster.
We are indeed going to a game 3.
It's hard to be confident for Beth from heading into game 3.
They look so unbelievably relieved with that.
They must have played through, yeah, they played through the scenario of losing that game in the most humiliating way, but ultimately by just enough seconds for the droughts to come back online and able to swing back.
Hard to be confident for game three. That was a very dominant position, a huge lead, and they almost dropped the ball. They do make it through to the third game.
What a game. I'm out of breath after that one.
And it's GPK and company, yeah, another lifeline for them.
And what do you talk about when you come into game three?
I think you talk about how you address the first and the second phase of the draft.
Viper and Batrider are the key problems for sure.
Alright, panel, break it down for us. Good Lord.
I don't even know if we're going to get to talk about the draft to this point
because whatever happened at the end that felt illegal from both ends.
ends. Bebham genuinely handed this game back to LGD and then I don't know what was going through
Tylong's head to not only stop using Q or not use Q on the TF Force, but he also killed the Mealy
Rax which gave them the glyph to be able to delay this and have Enigma come back up as well.
Not only that, it's like you have like two minutes where you knew that you had buybacks
and when Nation's Prophet buys the Desolator on the buyback respawn like you could have TP to the
to the secret shop, you could have sold all your items if you really, you could have bought
like grapeheels and stuff, TP back to base by Deso, Drone, Vlad, if you know you're running
down mid, if you know you've been giving a lifeline to win this game, you need to clutch
up in the moment, they did not clutch up at all, the pressure got to them, but they
could have won it, like they had such a great window off the BB, just again, just threw
everything at an ancient mid, they could have killed.
Like if this happens and then you don't get to end the game, it's actually so sad.
Oh my gosh.
Because Bedroom themselves, they're like, okay, there were seven minutes where LGV didn't
to have buybacks. Send it, send it to go when they did. Watch, watch Vytrek attack.
He's staggosing! Try!
We just forgot! Turn it on!
It's actually Soul Set. There's no poison attack that's stacking because look how long
this clip is. This tier 4 should be dead. It's not just the poison attack, it's also minus
armor on buildings.
To be fair, the Catapults and the Creeps, they're the ones killing the media wrecks.
So it's those if Vypher turns around and you know, throws a little fuck you to his own
team. The Creeps are kind of doing it, but still, like, it's not respecting the enigma
of respawn, not finding ways to stop his initiation, not going for the tier 4s. It's like, it's
It's just awkward from LGD, but in the moment that you could see there was like people drawing
down the minimap with the lines, there was like people pinging different items, like
there clearly was like a mix of ideas of how to clutch up this win, they couldn't find
just one of them, but if they were to replay this back, they instantly would have the doubt
and the pain and the realization and the hindsight that what could have been.
You gotta take the good things.
The fact that you could have still won this game is the good part, because the problem
is at this point I would have rather have them lose like two minutes before, don't even
defend your throne, like just have it come out and lose because the fact that you go
down mid and you barely miss out on the W for some like rather silly mistakes is kind
of big. But obviously, you know, bad boom, they'll be very happy about this game.
They were absolutely cheered. Look at the smiles on them. This is the happiest team
and the loudest team I've heard on a victory because they damn know that they messed up
big time just one minute before. My goodness. I think you can feel so much tension from
Because this licking is one on either side, Beppu. At the point where they're pushing their base, it's over.
And when LGD is pushing Beppu's base, it's over. I think LGD makes at least two crucial mistakes.
The first one is they're pushing all three lanes, which I think is complete nonsense. You don't need that.
You just need run wave in. All the waves were meeting.
So when you take mega creeps, like when you wipe them like this, you want to kill the creeps before they meet.
So they run straight to base and you want to force death the creeps. So they get there as fast as possible.
They didn't do any of that. They pushed all three lanes. They had no desol and Talon did not turn on his spell.
If they did any one of these three things, I think they win the game before anyone, and nothing even happens, they just win by default.
But it goes back to the same thing where, you know, where you keep referencing this human interview, the idea of like, closing out games, going high ground, the fear of the foes before.
Like, in that moment, I feel most teams would have just gone, we need to go mid.
But clearly someone, based on previous conversations, based on the way that they react these moments, they wanted to go even though they were dead for two minutes, they wanted to be even more careful.
They wanted to really just think about, what little players can we add?
But you don't need to do that. You don't have to over complicate it
It's the most ethical rundown myth you could ever do in your life. You just got to send it
Especially because like you can maybe push the three lanes if you're afraid of them having buybacks or they have nature's profit
We can just like TPA like this should be two four straight away
Yeah, I don't know why like any any racks being taken. Oh my heart my emotions my boys
That I do in this it's I mean honestly what you said it's better if they just lose without the whole comeback thing
It's so true because to have to be like so close and then you lose because you just made a stupid mistake
is like oh my gosh if we just because it's not like there was any skill involved here
There's no like it's literally just they got sucked up into the emotions and they just forgot
They had to do with a click next to the ancient to be clear
Just one man just
So real like it's the most OP shark that wants so many games with and in that moment
He's so good. He's such a gifted kid and plays so well, but in that moment he forgets the most basic thing
It's so sad it happens when you're in that situation when you feel like you've been throwing that raft right and that you could
Potentially win it out that you could potentially go into the grand finals
But now we're looking at a game number three and I feel with the way that it ended so many people forgetting how this started
We didn't know if that slaughter was still gonna run it down mid and go up against the Viper
Obviously, we did end up seeing the lane swap
And so of course that put that boom in a great position as well to at least come out of lanes
Looking way better than game number one where they just got absolutely stomped
So not only were lanes better for that boom even though they were down gold during that middle part of the game
They were able to bring it back and then yeah close out the game in a shenanigan-esque way of the late game
Yeah, I think that of course the lanes that was like life-saving for the draft
Like if slaughter goes mid then of course like it's on paper. That's good start, right?
So they put fine the enigma it did take a little bit time to find this hero
but knowing you have a player like Mir even GPK willing to do those swaps
It helps Slardar doesn't mind going to the other lanes
So yeah, I think like tactically be below under a lot of pressure in the draft due to these kind of constant pressure picks of vipers and
Fairbreakers and whatnot, but they found a way to give themselves a game pretty much
Like I have to like paddle back in my brain even because I fully remember the start of this game
I I do I do but it's literally the last five minutes
really like it's taking over and it's important too for the players that they can kind of push
that aside because they did do good things on LGD too like the first 15 minutes they were very good
they had a bit of a lead and then later you know they made some mistakes but
Bed Boom as well I think the lane swap was super crucial like we talked about because I think
LGD as well they were going for the nature's profit to like seal the way from there make it a bit
harder but Bed Boom they found the right answer. Yeah and I think one of the most key things for
me in this game is that Bed Boom just have the better turret compared to last game it's a bunch
a bunch of heroes that are really bad against Viper. Viper said in there and spitting everyone.
He's the chat of the game. This game Viper is not the chat of the game.
Dry Ranger will just out carry you with their eyes closed.
She's just going to buy items that are better against you.
It's just a hero matchup that doesn't work for Viper.
And I think that is to me the key, like it's just easy for either team.
They just kind of sit there and they just shoot.
And I think going into the next game, you should not run this Kessler's draw matchup
has lost both games.
You have to consider this and really figure out this first phase properly.
Because the center instead at the end of the game Viper and Bat are big problems.
This Viper hero it may have lost this game, but I think it's only because it's playing its draw ranger
It made them swap lanes and they were playing a lot of pressure and LGD is ahead in this game for a large part of it
Even though it think it's hard for them to scale so they need to figure out these problems the draw winter wyvern as well
I think the combo of the two of them is one both games like the nine pig into 13 winter wyvern should remove something
I've just replayed the the clip at the base, and he doesn't have shot of Viper guys
Oh my god. We blindly assumed he had it. In the chaos of the late game, we just weren't looking at ourselves, but I just like not toggled on right there.
He just doesn't have it. Look at the replay. 59 minutes in, I just zoomed in again. He just doesn't have it.
Did he have the gold even 5 before he started?
100%.
He had 1300 gold.
I mean, you can sell an item, just so that it could be your weekly gather.
Okay, okay. Then it makes way more sense.
Let's extract a little bit.
Yup. Formal apology?
Oh, no, no, no, I don't feel about any apology.
So you're playing that, but now you're getting angry about a different thing.
Yeah, we got angry because he wasn't using it.
He didn't have it to you.
So we have to apologize for that.
Because we we assumed that he just have it.
Yeah, apologize for him.
Right. And I said, you can get angry.
Why the fuck can you buy it?
Yeah. Yeah, I'm angry that he doesn't doesn't have it.
Yeah, and that they don't have it.
Equally egregious. Sure.
But we have to apologize because former apology.
Where is it?
Just get mad at something else.
And classic don't play a fashion.
Come on.
Like, you don't need this.
You need this lose game win game wrong. I'm gonna go over there and tell him back down
You know, but it is a little bit of a shocker because like the fact that we can
Well again more blindly assume that he has it and then in reality like again
That's where it goes back to like when you see they all die that you utilize your buybacks perfectly
Where it's like five second respawn on cares you tank a black hole use it like in that moment
Someone has to provide clarity to the situation someone needs to calm everyone down
Realize how you're winning this game because you're not winning through just raw emotion
You need to have some level of calculation and understanding of like what is that damage output which hero can provide BB that lifeline
So even in our moment of chaos and love for the game and miss reading things
They too also have done the same thing and that is why they have lost this game
I mean, it's a tough one whether you want to really knuckle down and focus on how to improve the late game
Or if you just want to look at the drop you want to make sure that you don't put yourself in this position again
I feel like that's the more important one. You definitely focus on that. No, okay
No, you definitely focus on the next one throughout the clip
He does end up having the short anyway on vibe. I think once he has the gold
Maybe the career flies over or he gets to go to the enemy shop. I'm not sure exactly what it is
But you have to focus on the next game at this point
Like which are the heroes that you want to keep playing which are the heroes that you want to remove?
And if they end up removing the viper now, do you maybe have a replacement?
Do you take it somewhere completely different if you're LGD and then just take the game three as it comes play well
And I mean you can see that both teams it's not like they're far off when it comes to skill
No, I actually liked what you brought up
It wasn't necessarily just this drought case carry much up that we have to question
But it was the combo of the drought and the Wyvern the fact that it's won both games now
No for sure like I think the winter I was just doing too much
I guess these games you can see both in terms of the laning this saves the winter's curses like you have solo kills
And this is not the first one
I saw solo kill yesterday where Winter Wyvern killed some Enigma on the side lane too.
And even here, I think also overall for LGD, they had a good position in the game, 2K3,
K League, sure, it wasn't super much, but it's a lot of these small plays where maybe
you don't get to follow up kill or suddenly they get a solo kill with the curse, it really
flips the game around.
It's also the type of hero that you let the fight breathe, that then like draw a ranger
can then understand it, where's my positioning, two heroes are currently locked into a win
discussed, I can then never get the fight and play it accordingly.
So there's the balance of Winter Wyvern in these real clutch moments.
This opens up for so many other opportunities to then, you know, find comeback fights or
to crush the fights that you're already in the lead for.
I think this next draft will be very, very telling for not just the series, but also
for the entirety of the tournament for the Grand Finals too, because you need to...
This is like where the rubber meets the road.
You have to be able to reassess and figure out what was the real problems here.
Kat Thommi knows what the problem is, because I think that is, it's a really difficult skill
set to build, to not just look into change things, but change the right thing.
Understand what actually was the issue here.
Was this, did this matter?
Did this other thing not matter?
Is it the winner-wriver and should we leave, should we trade the winner-wriver or something
else?
Is it the draw?
Kez?
Is that fine?
You know, there's a lot of questions you can ask and narrowing in and having a concise
conversation about what actually is the problem, that is not easy.
I think it's also a bit of like, when you're first pick now you, I would assume that whichever
team is first pick, they will start with something completely different.
because the Kes opener into then the drought, it just doesn't look good, or at least in these two games, unless you feel like, ah, the winter is the problem and you change something later, so also like the pick priority, like going into the next game, I think it's very important.
I don't even know who won the pick priority going into the two games, but I feel like if it's OGD though, they're the type of team that, I can see them running it back, right, just on the fact that they always have like a theory or a draft or a concept they want to try and apply,
Sure, maybe in a game 3, an elimination game, especially after game 2, you kind of want to simplify things,
but that's not the LGD way. They don't want to simplify things in draft.
They always enjoy trying to create that kind of problem that has to be solved very quickly.
So as much as I agree with you, I could just see this being a repeat,
depending on who actually does win the draft priority.
Yeah, we're not going to know that for a little bit about it, but I do just have so many more questions
about the fact that, because again, hasn't looked really good,
But how did you guys like the Nages Prophet position five because in all of this chaos?
We have overlooked that one as well. It was the last pick for LGD and it's a little bit of a did it really add a lot?
Did it take away?
Was it just a nonexistent factor and another hero could have done a little bit more to accelerate this game in
LGD's favor out of those lanes to me
He did a lot in this game in the fact that sure like maybe there's other fights
I would have done more but this hero does a lot of the things that you don't see I think he did things before the game even started
He made the enemy team not be able to pick the hero
I'm pretty sure that Beppu wanted this hero themselves and he ended up blocking a shit ton of camps
Which also you know ended up giving them a little bit more gold lead hero there, which is like here
You know it's like minute 14 15 keeps blocking camps. They're also double centred on the back camps as well
So there's the bottom in the river exactly like the two like the red eyes that you see within the centuries on the camps
So every minute that's like five camps that are not spawning
So even though you don't seem like kill heroes here or kill heroes there this hero does a lot that you do not actively see
I mean he also was like TPing to spots where he wasn't even warding
He had just TP stand there for 20 seconds if no one then pressured him then he would place the ward
So he wasn't even doing the classic like TP instant ward TP ally
He was trying to do these like little kind of mind games like our people actually identifying where I am
Of course with profit support you just TP you press charge you give vision you can understand the fight
Of course a couple times who just disappeared or draw ranger later on in other clips
But even in this one to be fair he does disappear
But his job is just information the entire time so he will kind of go unsung in the game
But he kind of he did the vision job
Unsurprised the Drow and Enigma could get the net worth they did knowing how often those camps were blocked for them
And that they definitely found the right places right to like also farm on the map and greedy enchantment that we all love of course
JK removes that shit from the game
Thank you. Thank you. Okay, you can nerf it
Remove it remove it. It is a good start. We nerf nerf nerf remove
Maybe like it's minus goal per minute. I like all you have to pay for it
Like at Fn is 15 you pay a price, don't have to remove things to balance them. Just give it a cap.
Just say like after 500 gold or a thousand gold then it disappears.
Sure.
Do you take it?
Did I not do this with something?
Yeah, philosopher's soul.
That's it.
But they removed that soul.
Yeah.
I'm gonna just give a different equivalent of wholesome stuff.
Or you just stop calls from taking GPMs and the support's gonna have a little bit of fun, but calls can't, you know?
They already get the creeps.
I have heard you guys talk about this so many times, you're like, oh, if this hero gets picked in this role then like you should...
And I know it's all a joke, but how would you ever be able to dictate that like truly?
That's why, just bank it simple, see you later, take the Elimur.
Peace!
Oh, look, now we can talk about this, TheoryCraft and all we want, but we do know that we need
to have a second team in that grand final.
We need to know if it's going to be LGD or BetBoomz, so let's get into our game 3 draft.
been a Coddle, Lone Druid, and Bane for themselves.
Yeah, so second week pick is one in both games so far, and that begs the question, is the
first pick team going to adapt to potentially first pick draw, and if so, what is the response
to that? Because I think that would be the natural progression, draw is one in both games,
okay, what are we just first picking, are there other options?
That's also something else that Bippum could definitely think about, because I believe it
was in game one, LGD last banned Undying themselves, because they were prepping for themselves to
get the draw on the ninth pick.
So why not then LGD here, realizing this, they can ban the, but the thing is, okay,
if they ban Drow, leaving Puck, then BB gets Kez, you don't get Drow.
So that's already kind of a problem.
Cause I think there's, there's a route where you just let the Puck through, ban Drow and
progress that way, but.
So it looks like this, to me, this says, they ban Ember Drow.
They want to trade Kez for Puck.
Kez for Puck, yeah.
But I think Bepple might just take Puck then.
And then you take Kez and they then get to protect that Puck.
You have to know the case and you can't pick the puck straight away. LGD might be okay with that matchup because Thailand also plays at mid
I would assume that case does well mid against Puck. Puck is honestly fine. Yeah, be honest
There's something I forgot what it is you can dodge, but there's something you can dodge with the phase shift
I might be telling it might be Perry. No, I know you can go down, but there's something else
Yeah, this year I made it through. Okay
Yeah, that's always been a first phase ban for LGD in the last two games
So looking towards the drown ember going in it does allow the the cuddle slash puck
Yeah already with cuddle you need to respect like the illuminate hills the lockets to show the chakra combinations through
Ambitides and timbers and these type of things
But I think just purely the healer noticing that maybe isn't as respected much on the hero and falcons played on med
Like it was creating such clutch moments
Clones the floor pots to med prize
They don't do a similar thing where Aurora just took the storm away when we saw Falcons open with the cuddle
And instead they still go for that puck like you look at being banning it out. Do you kind of have our GBK storm?
We don't really mind too much if it is into a puck even with the cuddle helping him in the later parts of the game
It has a matchup thing right because that was a metacuttle versus this is support cuddle. So that also shifts kind of the
Yeah, but what I'm saying is, I do think the Coddle got shifted more towards mid because
the Storm wasn't there as a pairing to have Coddle as a 4, whereas Bed Boom right now
could potentially pick up a Storm and have the Coddle as the 4.
Yeah, I mean, Puck is pretty good against Storm, so generally the way the theory has
gone on, because this first phase is having a lot where Coddle's first picked and then
you consider Storm and Burr Puck as the other three heroes, this is happening a million
generally is puck is good against both is very good against storm so then you
would want coddle ember embers band so you can play coddle storm against puck
because you can get really farmed and you can tank through the coil and things
it's there's there's gameplay there but generally I think both sides have been
comfortable with puck against storm storm coddle okay that's that's not what I
was one yeah like I think a puck is obviously good against coddle and against
storm but I think also when the coddle storm or pair pair together I think it
shifts it a bit too. Like, if I'm the Call of Storm, you're not that unhappy, right?
In the strategy, even if you get Coiled, there's gonna be Holy Locker behind you,
illuminates, like, maybe push you through the Coil overall and just to, like, live so.
Yeah, I think it's pretty fine for both teams. It's a lot about the follow-up, though.
Like, maybe if you're LGD as well, you can look for heroes and damage that allows you to overkill
in that Coil before the Storm has a BKB, whether this is Hoodwink or Snapfire, and just have, like,
so much Giga damage in this Coil that the heals just don't matter.
Yeah, you can have even like have really cheeky stuff like puck AA and now now you will just kill on the matter
What there's the response to that is storms can go PKD first
I know GPK in particular is probably the most comfortable player playing storm against puck
I've played against him multiple times and we lost a lot whenever I was playing puck he was playing storm
So I think it's a matchup that they are super chill with they're really comfortable with this combo in particular
They've played it maybe more than anyone else. So I think it's decently likely they say screw your puck
We're picking storm anyway. I think so too
So then maybe LGD also have to think about using that one ban here to take out that storm
or if there's something way more important and impactful.
It definitely depends what their read is overall.
It's not sure yet because I think the storm, you can make arguments for both and it depends
a lot on what LGD want in their next phase.
You know maybe they're like going super nuclear and like Quinn said there's some AA in the
mix, there's some silencer in the mix or maybe even I think Bane out of the phase, just kidding
that heroes first phase banned.
Yeah what's being left in the pool that has been taken out in the last two games, Trion
Clockwork right?
normally what's been placed in these second phase bands,
then right now not being picked.
I mean, like the out of phase, like the clockworks,
the hoodwinks, these like generic hero draft progression
heroes are perfectly fine for LGD.
Having that additional lockdown and just ways to kind of like
play into the map against Kodos really nice.
Like Kodos, he's all about boot speed.
So historically he's always shut down by, you know,
conkers and disruptors and any way to kind of gap close
on the hero, especially with the pacing
that he naturally will provide.
So yeah, LGD, I wouldn't be surprised if that draft
It's just, you know, puck plus plus four, then you wait for a bit more of an identity of BV.
Because like, for Koto, there's a much bigger crafting of like,
will they go back for the comfort of storm or the other things?
It is a matter of like, there are so many directions you can take Koto.
So LGD shouldn't reveal that hand and yeah, they do go for the clock,
just to kind of hide their drafts a bit more.
There's a different hero that they also played last game.
There's a world where I think I could see them go like Slardar plus one as well.
It's like a semi-flex. I think it's overall okay.
Unless you want to keep it open and like pick, I mean, is there something wrong about picking a Storm plus one here?
Or let's say that is the hero that you want. Is that like 18 exclusively?
Uh, I think you could pick it here. I think it's fine. I don't know if there's anything they would respond with that matters overly.
Um, Oscar is already banned anyway, which is maybe the only hero you consider to go, you know, full destroy the puck in lane mode, but that hero is kind of bad with Caudal.
So Ember's already banned. That would be your best choice.
I would be surprised that they don't take storm here. I'm not sure what else is like overly natural
You could take slaughter, but it's kind of bad against clockwork, and it's not particularly good with coddle if it's a mid
You can put it offline, but then you're still in this position of what are you putting mid?
It also depends on what you want for your fire position, right?
Like taking slaughter and it enables ranged heroes
Like you can take like sciences and other heroes, right? Because you have this body that naturally goes in
But they double pick the core so which means it's like
So is your mid, Largo is your off lane. They don't flex these heroes to other roles though.
That is interesting because, okay, so Largo-Cauter is very good together because they can just, they can cheat the lane.
It's like the most lane-cheating ever. You illuminate, frog-stomp, you stack everything, you keep giving him shocker, you have like infinite HP regen as well.
So I like the combo together. But then I'm still thinking, okay, who else will you go for later?
I mean, Kez is still in the pool.
You can pick Kez on 18 if it's not picked here, which it could be.
Yeah, okay.
So you'll need to counter pick Kez.
There's something like Faces Void you can consider, depending what this next pick is.
But I think the Cuddle Largo is also pretty nice against those first two LGD heroes just
because they're not that high damage.
Now you've got a ton of healing, a ton of sustain.
So like these picks from LGD, you need stuff to cut through because there's a lot of beef
there and they don't have damage issues.
So you need to have enough damage on your own in LGD or you can have problems in longer fights.
But you also have to be mindful of like keratich taking like the like terra blades as well to close the phase.
Like you don't really care about puck jumping you because you get like mantel, you get tanky.
Kez on the one to one you're perfectly fine with. Like clock's never going to pressure you.
You already have like Cottle to buff up your chakra so you have metacold islands and stuff.
I don't think SD is much of a deterrent. It's okay.
Good against SD, but I don't love SD until like sustaining line-ups
Because the heroes not very high damage at least to me like I'm not sure if I mind being Largo or Kato like seeing this hero come out
I don't know how you guys feel
One just who asked us also good. Yeah, I was expecting them they have way more of an opinion than I do on it
And there's a terrible
Keep it up everyone
I mean, I think their lineup is
This is an interesting draft in them. It's not one you typically see from LGD. You mean no from Batbom. Okay
Is it not always with August fool I feel like him entering the mid phase of a draft just gives it this like weird kind of
I've lost all kind of strength
I don't care about them. I mean TP caught us also very good together. And I think you have like
like two beefy guys with like a lot of sustain in front of them and he's been quite good
on tb like even when other teams and other players didn't pick it as much, he was already
like one step ahead of the meta.
They still need to protect it though, like you, I understand you take out the dox here
against the tb, it is obviously one of the worst matchups that you have to take out,
but there are more, you know there's your potential underlords and what not, we'll see
a bit more because obviously BB also they have to show their plus five hero next so whisper will
know that like he will see everything for his lane. Yeah I want to see what he actually does look
for because most of almost all of his stuff has been banned so far. They didn't ban his timber.
Oh is it really? That's a beautiful problem against the heroes that BB are playing themselves.
I'm kind of I'm kind of shocked that they ban Enigma there and don't just pick some Enigma
deterrent and then ban Timbersaw because Timber is like the
response
To Terablade generally in terms of offline heroes outside of Darkseer
So this is a I feel a slight a bit of an oversight
And I think it actually gives LGD a way to play a later game
Where as before I think potentially the scaling is tricky now. I mean they take tree in two
It's like the biggest gimme Timbersaw pick ever
Yeah, and and it's also it's it's whispered so first of all he has full choice. It's elimination
When it's game 3, he should have the freedom to take what he wants, but this is one of
the best timber games I have seen.
Even though it's one of the best timber games, in the back of your mind there's still
this argument of like Terrablade with you know, Manta plus 1 item, Manta plus 2 will
be like the biggest carry in this game that you can play around, so if they want to concede
the map to Timbersaw, give them 15 minutes of aggression, you just kind of skip waves
and do stuff, I think BB in the back of their mind they know what they're farming for, but
The timber does feel somewhat inevitable with how they've drafted.
Honestly, I'm not sure what's better.
I think if you're trading for other stuff, I think Underlord is okay,
but then you have too much control and too little damage.
That's why I think timber just makes Upford very nicely.
Even if you're SD in Clock, you want some more of that damage.
I think if you want to be a bit more flair, like flair type of player,
you could look for an offlane Phoenix as well, potentially.
I do think then still you're in the boat of lacking damage overall,
but you have a very good lane.
And all the heroes that you mentioned are damaged, right?
And you were saying about the teamfight,
if it is this type of hero,
I mean, Puck has to have a flawless game.
There it is.
Yeah, let him cook.
Nah, it's a good call.
And I think, I don't know,
I like LGD heroes better, genuinely.
I feel like this Timber rounds things out super well.
I think it's really good against all the heroes.
He scales insanely well.
And I don't envision DB being able
to win this game fast enough.
And I feel like they genuinely get out-scaled
pretty hardcore by Puck Timbersaw.
I think, it's rare I say this,
but I think LGD has outdrafted them.
I think so too.
I think this, like beforehand it was still somewhat okay.
I think the support duo from LGD needed something specific.
I'm a bit surprised they didn't see this coming
and they did not ban, like it's not just Timbersaw,
it's Whisper Timbersaw.
You gave a good, the certified thumbs up from him too.
Yeah, I mean, trust me, he's feeling good.
This guy, when was it like in Beast Coast,
like five, six years ago, or like Singapore TI?
This guy was destroying people left and right with this hero.
He's, this game is on Whisper, this is a 10 and 0 for him.
the silver lining that for BB is like, the Lago Coro lane should farm for them. The Slardar and Tupac should farm for them.
So even though Timber on paper is really good, you are potentially looking at two other lanes that are going to go better for BB
and maybe they can utilize their resources to then get a couple kills on Whisper, slow down his game.
But yes, Whisper has an exceptional game ahead of him and for BB it is a matter of just like respecting him and getting Kiritich online.
But in the last game, the Drow, he was top net worth, he found his farm. I'm sure he probably can do it again.
I just hope this is a kind of an even back and forth game.
Yeah, I'm also curious how you guys see the lanes, right?
Because in game number one, you didn't really feel too strongly that LGD would do as well as they did in lanes.
They did better.
They ended up going quite even for game number two, but does three lean one way than the other?
Over one way than the other?
That was a little widespread, not a lot.
Some, I feel like everyone should be pretty happy with the lane that they're in, right?
You have some called Alargo, you're pretty chill there.
I think the tree in TB will have to see, I think, how it plays out.
I think Timber early on doesn't really pressure, but he can pressure later on and mid. I don't know Pax are both kind of kind of chilly
Yeah, I think a lot goes down to moves make because I don't think lanes for me swing one way super hard at the other
So it's it's a lot about skill. It's a lot of a moves and about who's locked in for a for a clutch game
Well looked in to get to watch hopefully a clutch game between LGD and BB
But we're standing beside standing to the side with both our coaches. It's cap some bulk
Hello, yes, I am indeed here with both of our coaches as we move into this exciting
game three, but I want to know about game two.
How did you deal with the roller coaster of emotions going through that late game?
I didn't, I wasn't watching.
I thought we lost and I was outside doing prep.
I respect that.
And how about you?
How are you feeling through it?
I am feeling good.
I love these games like this.
Yeah.
I mean, obviously, LGD, you guys have been playing really aggressive fast.
It looks like your draft is set up to do that again.
Do you think you're going to be able to run this over?
Or do you think it's going to go for another late game?
I think this one is going to go more into scaling.
We have like Puck.
They have some nice lanes, so it's going to be hard
to make anything to take over the game.
So, yeah, the best late game team wins.
And how about you? Are you feeling confident in your draft?
Do you think you're going to take this win?
Yes, of course. I think we will destroy them.
Damn, strong words. Let's see how it plays out and throw to our costas.
Thank you. Betboom vs LGD on the horizon here. Game 3.
Interesting drafts, some very familiar faces.
Bold words.
Yeah, very bold words.
I think we will destroy them after giving them Kezpuk.
That is bold.
That is bold.
Well, maybe they've been holding onto their strats.
Look, I'm all here for it.
If this is going to work out like that, that'll be crazy.
All right, well, let's go into game three.
We'll find out who is going to be eliminated
and who will go to the grand finals against the Andex.
game three elimination on the
line. Looking at the lineup,
Yeah, I have to say if you put me on the spot
I really like LGD's lineup based on what we've seen work in this tournament. So you agree with the panel
Yeah, the panel is usually wrong though, and you're always wrong. Okay, so I'm gonna say bet boom are gonna easily win this game somehow just based on
your prediction you and you and bulk can
Can celebrate that prediction afterwards then okay, I will say this much
I really really doubt that bet boom are gonna destroy them
I thought that was a very bold statement given the hero to hero matchups here. I think it's an excellent timbersaw game
As far as I'm concerned this puck is not countered almost at all again as a first pick
There's only really the slaughter that in my mind is good against that hero
So I think this is going to be a difficult game for bit, but the good news for them like they talked about they have strong lanes
And save on coddle has an ability to really accelerate games and make early mid game fights very strong for you
There's a lot of healing between Caudal and Largo, so perhaps between all those heals you can outlast, fuck and timber in mid-game fights.
They might have cracked the code here. I'm just saying, statistically in this tournament,
I think we've cast Kez, fuck, and they haven't lost.
Yep.
Together.
That is probably accurate.
And the strong duo.
Alright, bowling. We'll hit one.
Miro.
We'll lick himself.
Yep. Lovely.
Like a cat.
Like a cat.
Wow, we, you and I have been together too long, I think.
That's the thing we should break up now.
Maybe this should be a cat instead of a frog.
Do we, I mean, the closest thing we have to a cat is PL,
and everyone hates him.
Yeah.
But he's not the opposite of a cat.
Well, that's not the cat's fault.
That's the hero design.
In a way, that is the cat's fault though.
You think PL looks more like a cat than Bruce?
Yeah.
Okay, of course.
Just checking.
That's a stupid ass question, is that?
Whispers playing Timbersaw by the way, one of his old school heroes that he's used to dominate in.
His guy has such a big hero pool though. Love watching him play.
The carry's not big hero pools in this tournament.
Yeah, the players have, but some carries are created less equal than others right now.
So don't blame them for running the heroes that are as powerful as they are.
We've seen Kez, we've seen Drow, just look better than anything else.
But with the Drow Band, we only get to see Kez. They let him through to second phase as well.
I thought he was going to get First Phase picked again with the Drow Band.
And then the other team would respond with Wyvern. But maybe that is the exact reason it did not get First Phase picked,
was because they would consider that too big of a counter.
Now, if Katyaomi back on Treant, I think the Zero has looked exceptionally strong in the hands of Beth Boom.
That's actually what gives me more confidence than anything else in them here, even though, like I said, I favor LGD.
But Katom is treant has looked insanely strong in all of the games they've played it
so
See if this is going to be the same once more save
Some damage is okay
Yeah, I do hope because of the fact that we're at game three. This needs to be an epic one, of course
We're all rooting for it
Which means agonist after tree is coming guys for those that read those patch notes many
Months ago where tree gets enormous and gets cleave
very important to cleave is the most important part of that don't let
sooner and tell you otherwise he will be buying that at some point if the game
goes long enough. Blink aggs seems to be the way to go becoming that tanky
monstrous front liner. Cleave.
That actually makes no sense why it's cleave. They tried to make it a core right?
They gave it a shot. There was a patch where some heroes that could not be
flexed out were like hey this hero can only play support we can't have that.
I played it for a bit, Syndra and Topsin as well as the armlet, Echo Saver build, Agh.
Topsin playing a hero core does not mean it's viable for core.
It means Topsin's playing Dota.
That is true.
How does Karatich just match up this game?
Pairblade, in theory against the Timber Sun, not great later in the game, right?
Kind of goes both ways, because Karatla is one of the heroes that has so overwhelming single target damage that he can actually kill Timber.
The downside is you don't really buy nullifier, so against the axe you'll need someone else to deal with that
But you have Largo lick already. Oh, yeah, true
Meaning that if Whisper wants the axe to be reliable, he has a veggie kibby, so that's a pretty expensive one to get to
Or just don't buy it? Or don't buy it, yeah, that's definitely a possibility here
Gotta say so far, very nice start for Bedroom. This is what I would argue their line of needs is to have the lanes go favorably, not a draw
And currently a big advantage, especially the mid lane GPK putting on a clinic here against Tylong's puck
27 and 4, hmm against 17 and 0. Wow pretty big advantage. This is a matchup that we've seen be mostly draw-ish
He was due for a lane win in this series, I feel like. Yeah, I think he's just happy
Game one he got absolutely
Destroyed and game two he didn't even show up to mid. He was scared. He took a little break
He got destroyed so hard he needed a an an hour off the court
That makes sense. He's back. He licked his wounds like a cat
There we go again. Yep like P.L.
That's right. He's back
Yeah, Kev's taking a decent amount of damage in that top lane the we're not seeing a drow it feels like drow
Kev's puck or the three heroes we're seeing
Yeah, very consistently
At the moment. Glad to see the clockwork back in the fray though.
Good pressure down bottom. Here it is, can take some damage through.
Damage here. Shadow poison as well, only two stacks right now.
As mid lane continues to be dominated by GPK.
He will definitely be getting level 6 before Ty long.
Still not the easiest to kill though. It's good to see fuck
Not drawing or winning for once
We're talking about in the green room that this hero just seemingly doesn't ever really get counter and then much in lane anymore
By the proteins. Maybe it's because the counter matchups don't scale well enough
Maybe it's because they have other glaring issues, you know, some of the classic ways of dealing with puck would be old dragon knight or sniper
Nobody really seems to favor the much and they're running into it. Puskar obviously is banned a lot of the time
especially against Tai Long
and here it is, first blood for the Terror Blade.
Whisper.
I'm not able to do too much yet.
I'm going to go for right now on Timber.
I'm doing a good amount of damage.
Yeah, with that Living Armor.
Not that Terror Blade needs more armor,
but it's really, really good on TV, this ability.
You have low max HP, so percentage-based-wise.
This actually deals you quite a lot of your pool.
And obviously the flat damage block is really nice against a lot of the pressure he could be taking in the lane.
Place nice thing in hand. Now Kat's homie, this is an interesting move. I don't really know how this is going to work, but...
It's like the thing moving into Warden did.
I'm watching top at the same time, you know, four stacks of Shadow Poison and he gets blown up.
Gets popped.
Like a cat.
Oh, that's not the crow's face that he is looking for.
Should be case to getting used to the buttons well wasn't using it to aggro the waves. Oh, was he okay?
I think I'm just giving him the benefit of doubt. I didn't see it
That's an aggro if you'd use it on the hero to them am I wrong? No, I should I would think
Just assumed you're wrong it's a safer statistically safer, but it is actually
Katomi almost gets in together a name and another whirling dead man do the job in for chain
No can't close the gap quite yet deal the core will join
That's only oh, he's actually gonna steal the window. No they have to see P
They're gonna kill in here potentially
Oh, he gets it
Good attempt close call if he was there one second earlier. I know he's there
They got the cog knockback. He is wasting so much time. Oh, yeah, and
And he's gonna live. Okay
Very nicely doesn't even TV to base TV still lane. He wants to stick around with Kiritage
Sure, you didn't get the wisdom there, but you forced I think those two or three TPs and they chased you for half a minute
Mm-hmm. Yes to your space right there from the tree
the game, we'll go for the blink
first. Yeah, only one bracer when
he plays at mid instead of the two
in the offlane. So we'll get it
faster. Also more CS than last
game, I think. So aside from the
lick on the whole that thought
8 minute power room coming,
should be K getting pulled on,
gets coiled as well as Yuma joining
the party with the Raptor dance.
Already half HP is the Slardar,
inside that coil gets licked but the
disruption is there. LGD gonna try to
surround him but the crush comes out
illusory orb and he finally will be
bursted, well I say burst it will be
ticked down slowly, death by a thousand
cuts as it were. Nice rotation from
Yuma there, I understand the tip that is
not a straightforward play for the
kids to make a nice kill onto Slardar.
Now how high value is licked this game?
You got the timber saw eggs eventually. Yeah, fuck silence in theory whirling death debuff
Yeah, actually pretty meaningful. It's a big chunk of health is shadow poison dispellable. No
That's pretty much it then but even just whatever
Timber potential acts isn't obviously huge fuck silence and you can get rid of the
stacks of Kez's katana
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I knew there was something from Kev.
Fucks Kev's a silence on an ally.
I'm gonna spell that off, yeah, more things from Kev.
Okay.
We got Tylong joining the party as well.
Here, Titchett.
Very good way to get Tylong.
Tylong's thunder available.
Can you find another sign?
Nope, because there's a chicken in his midst.
His humor shows up from the south.
And pressure is sheer one.
Tess can raise well.
He knows to be quiet around the livestock.
Yeah, what kind of livestock we got this game we got little test a chicken a frog
Yeah, what else no fat cow this time no, I think that's it actually I guess slaughter
I guess terribly it's like a demonic chicken
Coddles on a horse
with the timber chain he's very low though Yuma can he assist along with
Tyla no not enough whisper bites the dust that's a big kill for that boom
this timber will remain at the bottom net worth of the cores 10th pick of the
draft let's remember true whisper could have chosen any hero you wanted this was
his choice the panel thought it looked free and I agree it is a great timber
But the lane is the little bit of an asterisk in that terribly a coddle. Excuse me terribly trian a very strong lane
And that's always going to be the X factor of its care attention here. He is really good at zero so
You can expect him to get that extra five or ten
He was a stand-in at first and kind of was
having inconsistent performances and then he joined the team officially this is
after pure of course which pure was unbelievable on LG on that boom and
yeah once he officially joined he was kind of not great start I would say but
he's really really showed up in the last few months and they've just dominated
as well and in an interview seems like a guy that's easy to cheer for this down
to earth. Yeah. Smile on his face. He's like a nice guy. So I can't imagine what that's like.
Blink dagger almost up. You two can do it Shannon. Anybody, anybody can be nice.
True to be nice. I try my best. You know, try harder. You can only try so hard.
All right, GPK. Blink reveal. Are they gonna smoke for it?
No, he's actually going to show in lane.
It's not delivered yet actually.
They have to take care of this wave regardless.
Really nice here to play with Caudal.
We haven't talked all that much about the Chakra combos, but obviously Largo's off,
you know, just keep giving him, honestly, you can keep playing his guitar and then the
lane is very nice.
More healing, more damage.
Oh, it's Slardar.
Back to back crushes is huge.
Cooldown reduction of 6 seconds.
Crush has a cooldown of 7.
So, you can just link crush chakra dash crush again.
And we might see exactly that here.
Oh, it's too slow.
I long though finds the distance gets the coil off.
He immediately snaps as Yuma trying to finish the job
but GPK is too fast hook shot misses as well.
Good attempt.
That seems like some miscommunication.
I actually think they might have had the fuck feel there.
Did they snap the coil and then lick?
It was a stun for very long.
I didn't know this.
It's not a hard to spell though.
No, it definitely doesn't.
Stun was not very long at all.
Not sure.
Either way, Kiritich will transition over the mid lane and this is a tier one for Beth.
Keeping on the tempo courtesy of Save's Caudal.
Infinite resources, infinite healing between him and Lorigo.
And yeah, they're gonna nail that Florida combo next time.
I think maybe GPK wasn't expecting that Caudal was getting in range for the Chalkhar there, the secondary stun.
But
Nothing else proof of concept obviously the fact that
Tylong barely survives and they have to rotate over a lot of assistance and still lose their tower. Yep
Cat to omie how much
Sit cat to omie
How much does he owe you?
Okay
That's a difficult one, I guess
That's a dad joke, you know, I actually have a hard time
When somebody tells me a dad joke, I have a hard time actually understanding this
It's pretty bad. The obvious stuff is not obvious to me. Like any other joke, you also have a hard time on that
That's not true. Okay. I look at your face every day. Yeah, that's hard to understand
Let's say that
Very basic I think
Thank you, I think Miara has got a very symmetrical face you have there.
Thank you so much.
Hesting K almost there for Miara.
And he's been opting, and most players actually opting not to go aggs for the mid-fark.
Um, Speckling, is that a BKB game?
Yeah, it looks kind of like it.
It's not the best Lincoln's Lotus game, right?
Like what are you even blocking?
It's okay to have Lotus against Puck Silence, but...
And the Timber Chakram, again, removing the stats from that, but you can do that with Lick,
and on 20 you're probably taking two charges in this game.
I think the Grubinor is less good here than... oh, hang on, overgrowth.
Overgrowth into the Frog Stop with the Crush.
Nice kill.
With the Kill, Frogman.
Responds, bit late to LGD.
High Long, they do get the coil into the hook shot.
They want to kill off GPK.
He's getting healed up by a dramatic amount from both Save
and Mi'ero, the crush doing a ton of damage.
GPK still relatively healthy.
LGD going to have to back away as KJ will take a tumble
to care attention.
In fact, they're going to try to turn this around
onto the chicken man himself, Yuma.
Still trying to fight Slardar, gets up to the high ground.
Reflection doing a decent amount.
And Yuma will now back away.
Should be OK.
KJ did not get the caulk knockback there after the hookshot if you manage to knock back this water instead of catching him inside the caulk
So that should definitely be a kill, but couldn't quite make his way around in time
Lacking that little bit of move speed maybe a windblast would have actually made the difference there
That's not gonna stick around. I don't think he didn't find much out of this early game. They're down 4k already
You and bolt you just know what's up
I just you make it too easy on me if you're that confident you're just never right
That's not true very rarely. Okay, whisper timber chain should be fine
But now the triangle is bettons. You ever heard about confirmation by a show. Yeah, that is I don't have that though
Okay, let's get to know so there's the replay so the notice here
I think it's the solar bind actually slowing him just a slight bit before he gets to the right position
And even with the demonic purge the heels are just too big
The GPK gets to reset.
Nice couple of kills going the way of that boom. This is looking quite healthy for them right now.
Just like your face.
Thank you.
Debatable though.
LGD have to be a bit careful. This could definitely snowball.
Yeah.
And you know, I think that's the good news here for LGD. I don't think you heard it from Captain New Year as well.
I don't think you're worried about going late game.
And even if Slardar and Terrorblade get super late, even with the undispellable Haze,
I think you can still win this game. Puck is going to be unbelievably strong
once six-slotted here, playing essentially no, I don't consider Slardar a late-game counter at all.
I think he's good for a while, he's good in lane, and then he is good in the mid portion of the game until Puck really gets there.
So...
There's plenty of potential for Thailand to be the difference maker for his team Timbersaw eventually also going to get interesting
You can see whispers actually curing up the axe second without protection for it and he is committed
That lick could be a big difference maker
Easy kill there on King Jungles courtesy of save early. He knows I mean if you show up with a BKB first
It doesn't sound that bad for the timber in general, right? I think BKB is good this game
Solo find is annoying, your Largo is annoying, block a lot of Slaughter's issues, the key presents.
Nice roach taking lineup, Rosa pays and the infinite healing should be straight forward.
Anyway, LGD can do anything about this, they do rocket!
This is not the fastest!
Coddles, as we're now.
Yeah, the Hookshot is not available quite yet.
And yeah, it looks like they're going to get the Roche uncontested.
No resources on Puck is probably a big part of the reason.
Caretetchers, first ages of the game.
Kat to Omi.
Gonna find Yuma.
A horse of grappling claw out.
Has the Mage Slayer and 200 away from Deso.
Then we'll go for BKB into Ag.
It's very standard.
Okay, we talked about last Kaz game the mage flare into the only hero the offensive part of it was good against was enigma at least for the spell
Like look at this game another ears. There's just no
There's basically zero value in the spell damage reduction. I'm frog man
It's okay, but
Coddle. Yeah, you can always find something right?
But this is pretty far down the list of heroes that this item is good against and it's still just
Just seems mandatory kids is by at every game. No matter what
All right, I long arcane rune and the link
You're gonna be spotted. There's my link in from Ty long looking for a higher value
I'm not gonna work oil onto several heroes, but too close to the tower now
Another wasted move from LGD. Having a harder time this game finding opening.
Gold is puttoing though. This is not looking that unhealthy. They were down 4k.
Betboom got Roche, but see how much they can use this Aegis for.
But my biggest worry for LGD, if you will, is how much Whisper is going to get out of this
Aghanim's he's not even queuing up. He could be after I just think you can't cover it like this
Miro is going to be too hard of a hero to lock out of the fight in jungles again
Leaning ends
And he's dead hookshot misses
Would have been the corpse anyway
On the run. That's the very big one
I'm grappling claw. All right, he's about no, that's a dire ward. Oh, he's on reflection
Mirror still making his way over save as well Yuma. Corrosive Haze, he'll be
spotted until his death now. No more dispells I think. Making them work for it.
You have Katomie. Worst case has the Overgrowth. Chicken Man making it hard
indeed. More reapplying of Corrosive Haze.
I thought he cancelled the blinked-off.
The spells go in this, and again, the corrosive haste, echo slash, crackling claw, chicken man.
This is like a little minigame. Catch the chicken, he's a fucking chicken chaser, yes?
That's where they find him.
That cost them 2,000 gold to kill the kez.
At least 1,500. The kill itself was like 900 gold swing, but four enemy heroes were farming the
entire time. It was a full minute. They spent running down the chicken.
That was so funny.
If the last rocket flare from King Jungles had hit the Slardar, it would have taken even longer.
Because he was about to block the dagger, but narrowly missed.
And the good news for the side of LG as well, Kez doesn't have to do it all alone in this game.
It's a great fucking hero.
Just watch the lick him. He just wants to lick him. Get it off!
I'm gonna set the tension off.
Slardar already had HP coil in several years. Finally, I said you're tired of him. He gets licked instead.
Wait, what?
I filled up instantly!
They've lost that pass already, the fight is surely over, you're fighting into an aegis.
Whisper, ooh, nice crush.
Whisper, tank up the Timber Chain off, Destruct is gonna buy him a little bit of time.
And Yuma joining the party, Chicken Man was chased to the end of the earth.
He's gonna stay in his base though as Whisper, trying to get to the high ground, the right click's the reflection, it's enough.
Two dead for LGD now, it's Betboom.
Ooh.
They fight gifted to them essentially.
That is not...
Wasn't the blinding light that cancelled the Timber Chain then?
I think that's why they're tipping.
That was not sure. I mean, there are multiple things that could have done it. We'll see the replay here.
So the crush is already in use. You get the second crush immediately.
Explosion goes off.
Tylong's just dying in the middle of everything. It's kind of not okay.
You can see that both crushers have been used. What did he die to?
Oh, it was the lick.
It was the lick, yeah.
Little Larco-McLickens.
Like high value little thing on I'm sure
Almost living here on whisper by the way those not far off, but
Oh, oh, oh boy. This is another chicken chaser situation
It goes in this it told me it's from fable, right? That's right. He's a bloody chicken chai size
Foreman sir is that boom
Looking quite good again. 5k gold. They're gonna get, oh, they're gonna get the ice in the forest.
Might give them a move of opportunity or two to find a random puck or random kez.
Of course, gotta be a bit selective about where you place these trees as Timbersaw will inherently be cutting down half of the world's trees while he's playing the hero.
Yep, of course.
But, it's only some spots that Timbers is highly unlikely to interact with, the ones that are completely out of the way of creep camp.
We have creep camp.
And Yuma is so far out.
Is this how he has to play this game?
Oh well.
How they're making him play?
He'll TP.
Oh my god.
It's the vision of the tower.
Oh my god.
That is Yuma.
Not great.
Oh dear.
He's going to parry nothing, get crushed and killed.
Chicken dead again.
Oh, there must have been a different way to do that than TPing right there.
He's painting the enemy his vision.
That is correct.
They have a tower.
Must have thought that you're out of vision of the tower there. He needed to be a little bit further on the right
Look at you PK gave up on the chase, right? And he's like, oh wait a second
That hurts for LGD. Yep, that's a big couple of huge deaths tie-longs and that
Engagement we just watched is casually walking in getting licked and killed a couple chase downs on the chicken chaser
the power of healing so far it's been difficult for LGD to find any kills
into this Largo Caudal and it's about to get worse save has hit level 12 and
he's bought his shard so now illuminate up to a hundred percent healing
efficiency up from 70 together with the holy locket these illuminates heal
about six hundred each when fully channeled it feels like a very casual game for bet
booms so far haven't feels like the opportunities are being given to them in a way yeah of course
they can keep farming terribly close his best friends terribly caughtle get a lot more farm
efficiency you keep spamming conjure image yeah and he'll have scottie pretty soon gpk
I believe something thing goes liver to my mistaken.
He has BKB blank.
Thought he was working on aggs, maybe not.
Orchid, interesting.
Yeah.
Maybe again, just recognizing that, wait a minute.
Timber isn't buying beefy.
I could get an Orchid for double value,
neither Timber nor Puck buying defensive items.
He wants to make them.
Here it is, demon zeal push now.
This will be a tier 2 for Death Zone. This is without ages. 50 seconds from knowing when Rush spawns.
This is becoming a pretty late Parasma.
Or Tylong. Some of the games that we've seen just run away with it.
You're looking at a 22 minute Parasma. This one's going to be 26.
I mean, how's the high ground for LGD?
Defense? Yeah. Very good.
Cogs are extremely useful. You can hookshot in and block the enemy team in half.
demonic purge when anyone starts hitting the tower you can kind of keep the
place. It's not like super super good because you don't have clean displacement.
Okay, missing the crotch. Whisper is going to get bashed up past the Sheva.
Oh no! Save my goodness. That GPK forced to use his BKB and I'm going to try to get on top of
this chicken again. Keratich getting bounced around by the crotch and half HP has to Sunder.
Going to be disrupted as Whisper shows up in that ad instructor form. Get Sunder the last moment.
Keratich able to get back to full HP but now he's low again because there's so much damage
coming out from LGD he gets chopped from down to the ground so two dead for
bet boom oh and LGD getting back in this game that's one of those slip up
them Roche is not up for a long time it's a very long spawn that's one of the
slip ups you just can't afford yes you feel the big nice advantage but one
moment of that 4,000 gold down the drain the fight itself was worth 2,500 and
then you have you know your biggest farmer debt for almost a full minute so
very very major loss you're seeing here that cross you became blindly thought
someone was in the camp was wrong say it gets blown apart by standing next to a
tree this is the thing with coddle against timber you bought these items
you bought glimmer and lock it you don't have forced that I have to question
that glimmer purchase versus force of actually when you look at the options
you have right what are you up against timber saw clockwork it's really really
good yes I understand there's demonic courage but that's also good against your
glimmer, right? So in that situation, the four-step would have been very nice. The glimmer
offers zero against timbersaw as well, worth keeping in mind it's all pure damage.
And he doesn't even want to buy it. He's going hex next, it looks like, on the caudal.
Surprising. Who liked the force?
But more importantly, Cinder and Katomii is going for axe next.
Yeah, it is against a timber. Oh, yeah, he's gonna
How much all right how much strength do they have yesterday did Malady have with
Because he had the barber had to
Yeah, he had a barber
Bobble in a bobble. That's right. I had a barber and the barber gave him strength. That's a good barber
How much strength did he have, do you remember?
It's a wards of encouragement, you can do it, Kess.
How much does it...
It was Malady yesterday, right?
He was up to 9k health when he used his ult.
So how much would he have removed?
So he would have had 4,500 to 4, right?
Sure.
Uh...
I don't know.
Do the math.
I mean, whirling death on that hero deals like something like 2,000, 3,000 damage, I guess.
Oh my god.
I would think.
But don't worry, Tylong. He's not gonna be your damage record, bro. You're safe.
This is gonna be your record for the foreseeable future. Maybe forever, if that gets changed.
The game yesterday on Zeus, he did 276,000 damage.
What's the most of all time? That's that. Of all time? Yeah, it was the record. Ever. Really? Yeah.
Because of reasons.
Shout out to the devs, of course. If you had guessed
what the top damage of all time was before that would you have guessed 270
or what I mean what was the I don't know what the second highest was but I was
guessing this was the highest ever actually but I think it would have been
something like 200k that all part this might guess sure we can look that up and
by we I mean someone else and let us know just Google it you can chat if you
can yeah what is the second highest soda hero damage ever in a program sure
They don't know he's here. Okay, maybe they do now. He's dead.
Just hide next to the trees, Kastomi.
He dies next to all his comrades.
Now, a gem from Tylong, proving it's worth.
I'm gonna go for Roche. They do a buyback on the tree.
The licks are gonna take off the shield ruin. There's the buyback.
Joseph Hayes onto Tylong. Ian, this is already gonna proc for him.
He's picking an initiate on top of them.
And it's Meta-Marvus of this port, that's KJ, just no HP apparently.
Corrosive FaZe and Terrorblade.
And now Roche will go back to top.
This could get really interesting.
This is weird for Bethan because Meta is, that's the thing you have to worry about.
Meta is halfway through.
You do have buyback for Clockwork to get some vision in the pit if they really need it.
Gonna wrap around the back here.
They're looking for a fight, that means they might not be able to get Roche then.
I'm going to wrap around the other side for LGD in the pit, this is very tense, I long.
I'm going to go away and get the waning rip, oh the deletion of save, he buys back instantly.
Doc woke up in 5 seconds, GPK working on Whisper, and the timber chain away, Karrot
catches in the pit, going for the roll, she gets it, and the Aegis.
A little bit surprised LGD didn't get in deep there.
GPK, they're going to find a disruption, off of the blink, that's going to keep them
safe for now.
Pops the BKB, gets the brush off,
lick on the Yuma, will grappling claw away.
Miro, gonna be forced out for the time being.
Pops the BKB as well,
Tylong is still in the midst of all this,
because he loses control on the heritage,
but we'll get the Sundaroff, Tylong, half HP now.
Bay shift, the chase is on,
hookshot from KJ, can't get anyone inside the fog,
bowling not successful yet.
Tylong with Whisper, they're able to delete Miro,
now his Whisper, in a lot of trouble,
under the tier two tower, gets the timber,
And now the double kill, no way!
He's gonna live, keep the attempt from the TB is successful.
Holy hell of close.
And Whisper getting healed up thanks to the Spirit Vessel.
And now they're gonna pressure the tier two tower despite not getting rushed, despite not getting the Aegis.
Laying on the limits there both teams.
Terribly will be a bigger problem next time around.
Picks up the Daedalus.
have to say the whispers got a decent amount of mileage out of this
yeah I don't think I'm licked right yeah I don't am I missing something I mean it
works for it works against them it should
this is just finding the right opportunities
going for an octurine next seeing the replay here so immediate first night
Again save on the call no chance if he's the target wanted to be the target doesn't see a buyback. So that one was deliberate
Not enough time to be a disun curious it so
Yes, they have that in their hands still can't shake the feeling that LGD got over the hardest part of the game. Yeah, that's real
Largo and slaughter are starting to trail quite significantly behind the three enemy cores, especially timber saw is becoming an absolute monster
whisper
About to finish this octurine core
And talk stuff by stuff getting there too
Have to say LGD has looked like the most resilient team at this turn. Yeah, they've come back from some pretty bad starts
This is stuck with it. Oh, that's just a look as against for whisper down to a hundred HP, but it's more than you need
It just takes one
That's the face of a man playing Trent wishing he had a Dagon a Dagon huh now
that's what he needed for the kill he needs agonim scepter syndrome off true
makes all the difference that's a face of a man wishing he had an agon how close
is he about an agonim scepter away holy shit didn't we look like five I think
almost eight minutes ago yeah he has not really gained gold I think unfortunate
Maybe he bought a gem. I actually wasn't paying that close attention to that.
Maybe.
Let's see what happens. There is a gem on the puck.
It's still two minutes on the ages. Let's not forget.
I bet them pigs at roaches.
It's gonna be really hard to use though.
Yeah, both teams have gems so Trant must have bought one for Slardar.
Here it is. It's just gonna try to press the issue.
Okay, Meta.
Any heals from Largo?
Whisper can clean up the illusion very, very swiftly.
This is already rethinking his life decisions.
You got to be careful too when the meta starts expiring.
Good news for him is he can have it in about half the time courtesy of playing with Caudal.
He's just going to be spamming Chakra on him for more illusions than faster meta respawns.
And there's the rush banner, so this will give them a little bit of space to work with.
with illusion taken out again.
Syrupitch, you get silenced.
Decent amount of damage is LGD.
Still a lot of damage to the tower though.
They're gonna force out the fortification.
Let's kind of break the banner here.
And that's it, awkward.
That is a tough one.
Disruption, you get a nice little win.
Put them on the banner, there we go.
They got a few ticks out, yeah,
they should be able to clean it up
and that's the push for Bethbombs.
That lost half the tower.
That's pretty solid defense from LGD.
Indeed.
Bethbombs would have loved to get
an actual fight out of that.
They didn't give it to him.
Not a talk to X for that.
I get that reference.
Totally nice.
Incredible.
I'm so proud of myself.
Yeah.
You don't know much hip-hop.
I almost none.
That's one you know.
Who's your favorite rapper of all time, Shannon?
Oh, ODPixel probably?
I don't know.
It's a very suck-up kind of answer.
Respect that.
What do I have to suck up for?
I don't know.
As we've already established, not very nice to people, so...
Probably a little bit of a reputation gain there.
Okay.
Trying to keep one of your last friendships alive.
Sad but true, I guess.
Alright, what are we close to?
has the Agathon Scepter, Keratich, Daedalus Scotty, and I didn't realize he didn't have
BKB.
Yeah, you're going to eventually have to have that in a six-lot build against Puck Terribley.
Alright, excuse me, Puck Timber.
There's just no way about it.
Maybe it's a mandatory item.
It lays there as long as you can, but the time has come.
Oh, Axe SD.
Alright, alright.
Double Purge, back-to-back on the Slardar to make sure he dies, or even...
The demonic purging Largo also really nice of course.
Be able to stick on that target.
Yep, that is the...
Remember when there used to be three charges?
Oh, yeah.
Didn't it break as well?
Before, like, it was the best act in the game.
It was triple charge and break.
Yeah, now it's two charges and break.
But yeah, even when there were three charges, it also broke.
It was insane.
Still, and...
It's fair to say S tier shard.
In the right games especially
He's always one of the best in the game along with disruptor. Yeah
Hey, we do which I've been given to
It's like hey, that's my thing
Miero looks like sheep stick is next for him
feels like most I don't want to downplay the Largo the lick has been good
obviously but in these fights I don't know it's hard to tell how much impact
is here at the habit times I guess it's interesting to see him going for hex
next if he's going to commit to this that tells the story of how the fire line
of his crafted in such a way that he doesn't feel the need to buy an armor
item sometimes we've seen Largos by Shiva's for example we've seen that on
Whisper or Lotus Orb. By passing both of those to get the hex, even though you have the shard,
it's quite telling, right? You must feel like the Lotus is really, really bad value in order to go this way.
Maybe I'm just used to the frog getting agged and then you can really see the impact. It's a
different type of impact now, maybe. It's also just the type of line of your against. Timbersaw is
blocking it all and he has his thing running. Puck is hard to even get on top of to begin with.
So, it's not that easy for Largo to play that type of fight against these specific heroes.
Whisper is now trying to find something.
She goes to get a little bit of vision.
That room will back away.
It's just such a strong 9 second BKB that Whisper has got running now.
Guarantee protection now for the Axe.
It's very late in the game to get a BKB, so those 9 seconds are going to feel like an eternity for the Slauner and the Largo.
And if you have BKB axe run, you can't die.
So, and they have no piercing to spell, so.
You're two tower, four LGD.
Step by step.
Pretty early flamethrower for Whisper as well.
Living armor.
You saw Tylong not buy the shard, fast enough last game, it's like Tylong, look what I can
do.
And push towers with my shards really good should try it. So we don't have to play for another hour in the mist again
I didn't notice either though. No that was I thought was making the point backstage that you should buy it
Regardless of pushing like that. It's just a really good value item to have in the mid late game on biker minus armor
My's magic is more damage
So perhaps it was a bit of a miss to not even have it to begin with I have to buy it right now that fuck usually knows
What he's talking about and I've been right about that one
All right, he just said whoa, whoa, I'm hearing you. You know, I'm right
bitch
My goodness be careful lock the doors here. Yeah, everybody smoke from that boom hide your fog
Gonna wrap around not gonna find a connection outright roaches up in 13 seconds
as that boom
Towards the arcane room
LGD triangle, you know, it came in for Kiritish, so...
This is effectively two metas if they keep it in the chopper.
I was gonna show, gonna dodge the crutch, GPK can't find the connection.
This is a pivotal, pivotal fight.
See, if Whisper wants to join at some points on the other side of the map right now...
It's really far away, you're right.
I was gonna tip you over. Okay, they have the outpost, he's connecting.
Whisper shows up, can you fight? He jumps in with the BKB and gets off the Shiva as the Connell gets deleted by back instantly.
Kiritich now on a DKB as well, with the meta, not going to get much value out of this though.
As Whisper is literally just unkillable at the moment,
and I have to wait that out, but now some very valuable DKBs down.
Yeah, as mentioned, Kiritich, even when this meta expires, he might just have it again, courtesy of Arcane Room plus Chakra.
So, this is not a key moment of opportunity because you force that metamorphosis.
It's going to line up quite nicely with being ready again for this Rosh up top.
Good question.
it's not easy to see smoke coming up now
there will be it looks like a 10 second window
where the meta won't be up for 15
now Beth Booms turn to wrap around as
CLG for the LGD very confident to go for Rosh
But yeah, you're right the meta and the CGN is doing decent amount of damage, GPK is going to jump in onto the clock worth,
Lick is there as well.
This drop's not at the same time being
Triant Protector is going to get bursted, Whisper gets off the aggs as well.
We're going to have to ignore him now, Miero's going to lick the Olacor instead as Kiritich is going to die back.
That's going to be the death of the Shadow Demon.
You know, die back for the caudal, that hurts.
Lane's still pushing the top, and you're not going to get licked in, there's a lot of trouble now.
The damage from Heritage is nothing you can brush off with that Daedalus as Whisper gets off the BKB now.
Very late usage with the Flamethrower as well. They get the silence out of the box, and they have enough damage to burn through him before he can get away.
Looks like he's gonna be fine for now.
Or is that Daedalus?
A little bit of it.
Still very low HP.
Can he actually go back in?
Yula's gonna fight it out with his BKB now.
Heritage is gonna get bashed up now.
There's another Agonist Scepter from Whisper.
What does she want us to follow up?
Kez is dead for two full minutes, and now the knife fall away is gonna be successful.
of the three dead for best of them, they have to get out.
Destruction's gonna hold the frog in place, so it's gonna be four dead in favor of LGD.
They lose their kez, they lose their puck though.
Wait, did you have a dive back?
He did.
I didn't even notice he died the second time.
Well, they get the rush, but...
Yeah, who's picking it up? I guess.
Pretty costly. I don't know, man.
Does Timber ever die?
Kind of feels like Whisper wants all his item slots too.
We'll take it instead of the BKV.
If you want, if you want any sort of value out of this Aegis, you have to play super aggressive now,
because the damage he doesn't even try to kill you to begin with, so now you've got to make them.
So, how is he dying the second time?
So, I feel like I barely even saw him in the final lap side here.
Stunts the slaughter, crush, and then, oh my god, it's just two illusions.
And then finally the main gets to connect a little bit in the end, narrowly finds the
kill.
That double crit.
Yeah, that is...
That was definitely avoidable.
I have to say, I think that death on Kez was unnecessary, but very heads-up play from
It looks easier than it is to communicate that in the middle of a hectic teamfight, find that kill.
Keeping things interesting here.
Yeah, game is still quite even.
And who do you like late game?
I still like LGD better.
Which is the biggest concern, I think, for the side of Bethel here is Largo and Slaughter just keeping up.
In these super late-game situations that we've seen G.P.K. in where he is an absolute boss, it's not on this type of hero, it's on Spirits.
Slaughter. I mean, Kess is really far behind now, to be fair.
He's far behind terribly?
He's almost doubling the network.
He's ahead of the others, though.
He's barely above Slaughter, though.
Yeah, that's true.
It was a very expensive dieback fight there.
We probably lost 2,000 gold on that fight, at least maybe even 2 and a half, but fortunately for him, the way this LGD lineup is crafted, I don't even think Kez is the carry of the game, actually.
I think the carry of the game is puck, and Timbersaw is playing hybrid, just front line and secondary carry.
It's almost Falcon's-esque in a way this lineup
Where if this case we're played by skitter that they have a lot of games where their position one isn't necessarily the carry of the game
But sometimes it's a Mars sometimes it's Malrin. This is kind of feeling like that
They've designed it so
It's not the biggest
Cost of concern in other lineups when Kaz is in this spot. I'm like, oh, you know, yeah, but
Here's not the damage breakdown. Okay. Oh my god. Okay. Hello
Ah, that was a hero. 90 seconds, no clock.
I don't think they can get any objectives off of it though.
There's a tormentor up top, but this is not really worth going on a trek for anymore, I would think.
And high ground is impossible against HSGs, no shot.
So, Cas gets his 25 now. Big upgrade for the third Echo Slash Strike.
I'm not sure what you replace here.
I can't feel like there's a better, I think the action is better than the satanic.
You need to just get in there and force some first situation.
This is like, we're gonna say Aegis, by the way.
This is a bit crazy.
Teams with Aegis, apparently not advantageous.
Portification pop.
Can't say advantageous without Aegis.
True.
Whisper.
How do you, they're not even getting the tower, you know?
Feels like the push in the top lane from earlier.
Katomite has one component of his axe.
15 minutes later,
the ogre axe this is why you take the greedy neutral item lesson learned went
for quickened big mistake big mistake kezu in the green room face palming like
how on earth can you ever take any other enchantment than the best in the game
that should have absolutely been removed after two days good question kezu I
I don't know.
Keep it up.
Just think about it every night.
Kind of sad, actually.
Think about that, that night.
What a hard time sleeping.
Whisper 40 seconds on the Aegis.
And, obviously, the BKB will replace the Aegis,
but he is going to be upgrading Blink to get overwhelming.
And then after that, I...
I don't know what you can do.
I got five instead of Gem.
Could be an idea.
He doesn't have Gem.
Oh, I thought you were talking about Pox.
He's also getting overwhelming blink.
Oh, okay. No, the Timber.
Timber?
Timber is actually just six-slotted.
Uh, yeah. He could buy Moonshark for Kez.
What else?
Yeah, that's pretty much it, right?
I don't really know what...
Yeah.
Guess so.
Raker, potentially.
But like, what do you swap out for a Raker on Timber?
Oh, the Blinken, they find the connection on a Tyla,
but the E on this does proc, Whisper now in the front,
taking a lot of damage, just gonna get licked off his agg.
So then he's the BKB, disruption now onto the Terra Blade.
Trying to reset a bit, and it's a lick off,
and Aratich is, uh, can't coil, not gonna do too much.
Tyla long showing off his mechanical prowess that we've talked about.
How to crush onto Whisper again.
He didn't even kill this guy. He finally popped the BKV with the Sheeva's as well.
Right click's are doing quite a bit. The Yuma actually backstabbing save, gets the kill over with only on the one.
Destruction's gonna save Puck for the time being. Tai Long.
He'll be able to phase shift and get out just fine. Yuma completely alone for now.
That's right. Right clicking a decent amount. Hookshot's gonna miss as Whisper frontlining yet again onto GPK.
Yuma's on the backline trying to have Puck. Oh, the kill up the spell!
And this time it does snap as Yuma coming in with the Raptor Dance on top of Kerakitch.
Doesn't he have the Thunder to work with?
He's gonna get the structure, but Yuma is dead!
Under seconds!
He knocked it back into the A of GPK.
Super low.
Finally, Berserker down.
That's three dead for Beth Boom.
The Ryker's coming up from here.
He's attempting to TP away in the BKB form.
He will be fine, but the rest of his team will not be.
Four dead for Beth Boom.
Two dead for LGD.
They have to buy back for the Slardar.
Okay, that's just a distraction.
I can't believe it.
He didn't kill the caudal.
I mean, okay, I say that.
He did a lot of damage.
All right, it's not bad, but...
He's not the one getting the finishing blows,
except on the supports. He's done a lot of damage in that instance and tank an equal amount,
but it's the timber and the puck that get to clean house every single time. And that
was in spite of a completely whiffed coil, which is probably why Bethven fell confident
to chase through this. The problem is they just get, they break formation, right? You
lose the coddle in the backline, Triant has to overgrowth one hero, so that's a big ability
out the window. And Yuma gets chased by Terrablade, he's going to survive this one as well easily.
If that hookshot hits, this would have been even easier for LGD.
The coil came off cooldown again. That's how long this fight was on base.
With the connection, triple Echo Slash into a great Raptor Dance. Huge amounts of damage before you have an inevitable going down.
Might have been able to save him if he could drop to him instead of the Terriblade. Who knows?
I mean, the Terriblade illusions might be better than...
The 40K Network Hero illusions have been made out of her.
pretty strong pretty damn good so LGD not really able to get any buildings from
this fight
everybody will not be spawning back for pet food 8k advantage for LGD as we've
learned this series the lead doesn't matter whoever gets Aegis usually the
team about to lose the fight as you'd expect back and so one shots illusions
right or was that one of the things that go away yeah I'm trying I think it still
does okay so there is a world where you could get that's exactly what they're
doing actually all right they're also getting daggin five on timber so it's
just saying thinking if you get daggin on both puck and timber you could just
casually use it in the fights with the lead to illusions which is actually
pretty big deal it's a huge part of terrible its damage to take away
probably like what are you getting rid of on timber that's a good question is it
backpack item? I mean, yeah, you can swap it in for PQB, I guess. I think that's the
best way to play this. I like that as an upgrade. I think it's better than right here, if you
were to fill out that slot. Yeah. I mean, the Dagon 1 will kill it just the same, right?
Yeah, but obviously, you're kind of upgraded. It gets a lot of lower cooldown as well. Together
with Octurine, I think a Dagon 5 is like sub 15 seconds cooldown. Maybe 12 or something?
So between Puck and Timber, these fights are really long. You're just going to keep killing
illusions. I like the sound of that. King Jungle is working on a Wind Waker as his item
of choice. It's going to be high impact. No nullifier on the Slardar. He wants to go
Lincoln's on GPK and again, maybe falling into the same issues that we talked about
in his Konka game where he just doesn't do enough damage late game. This is all about
here it's it's yeah doing the output whereas on the other side there's three
seemingly equally threatening late game cores you only really have the one yeah
that's a good point
gonna go for a smoke here gets the crush didn't even pop the disc though
time limit fine put them on a cleanse off this
he's gonna jump in gonna force the DKB out of GPK the Agnes set the pop from
I got a lot of damage! Whipers actually dead!
So the fear completely destroying him was not expecting that.
Fear into Hex.
And now...
Role Boy.
In 20 seconds, this would force a buyback potentially.
Such a huge kill actually.
Either having to use this Timbersaw buyback or getting a free roast is a very big deal at this point.
You see the initiates in here.
Hex into this airway.
This gets into Hex by safe.
Did they not know safe has Hex? Maybe not.
I'm not sure this is the first fight that he reveals it
whispers like
But I didn't die the last 10 fights
That is true. Maybe didn't recognize the fact that those fights weren't fighting one LGD
They might have to just do they want to force the vibe or did you want to use the buyback for this?
I could try to steal it with Tylong, but I think I'm just letting it sit just selling this
Father the Ratswolds
I think it's the right call
Shit happens bad death from timber
We're gonna take the loss here. You still have a cheese on Kez
so
The cheese is small advantage only for the side of that but it's the ages that it's all about and the refresher
Guess you give it to Trent. I think
Actually, I'm gonna have a slot for it
That's a homie closing in on his axe
If he had greedy he would have had it of course by now
It went ahead of a while ago. Yeah, he's a thousand away. I mean by back should are gonna be the thing that really matter here
Another item for what is he replacing look at this inventory. This is disgusting for terribly
He has bloodthorn on top of all these items in his inventory. Is there a world where you swap out?
What?
What?
What are these?
Yeah, I was going to say Manta, right?
It's inventory management and it's battery.
You have so many illusions from Chakra Magic that maybe the Manta is actually worse than
a Bloodthorn in terms of overall DPS and there's so much value from the sound.
Well, he's swapping it back into user.
I think he's just going to use Manta and then swapping Bloodthorn during fights.
This is...
It's one of those things where when it gets to this late in the game and you're terribly
sometimes you can almost have too many items and the like the mental capacity it takes to use everything correctly
I'm scared for bed boom when it has become the hero in this game
Yeah, Yuma isn't even maxed out at all yet
He's not close. This is like a 35-minute inventory in some of these games it feels like
There's a Daedalus. He could be Deso. How many charges on the Deso? 18?
Yeah, the fact that he has a mage player minute 55 and an un-upgraded blink is kind of crazy
He has a lot of room to grow
Yeah
Heritage trying to beat a different record this game than the damaged one from Taiwan this tournament trying to get the highest net worth ever
It's on the way. I think the record is about a hundred K
That's it, huh?
That's true
Something's the same. I don't think it was an alchemist either might have been alone drew it or something. I'm not sure our Naga
One of those really god-awful Naga games back in the day
Could be at least... Naga.
I don't even think it's an old game either. I think it's just a couple years maybe. Anyway.
Alright, care away from Kiritich.
What's the issue?
Fortification activated.
Back to Ag-10.
Back to Ag-10 for Whisper.
Bop the Ags, gets the sheep as well.
Bop the BKV.
Oh! Leap save again!
Does have the buyback here.
As Mjolnir and the BKVs, it had... having to walk away now.
Kiritich getting bursted. He's very low HP.
Jeremy has a second life to work with.
Umapami his DKB now is lit for forcing the cheese out.
Nice timing from the arrow.
Kiz is getting kited so hard.
That's life number one.
No matter how focusing on the frogman,
just trying to run away with all his heart.
Gets bursted down by the Timbersaw.
But Shalah Hookshot going to be canceling their Keratich.
Left alone, one versus five.
Who shall win?
It is LGD.
Three for nothing.
Wow, that's such a nice backstabber.
Four for nothing.
It's just like the key to breaking the fights open for LGD every time. It's just finding and killing savings
I think you have to buy any on disc
He's just not able to fight back at all with a disc at least he has a chance to press some buttons
Can I know I know you're against shadow demon, but this is not the way the fights are working out anyway
It's just timber and putt blinking and assassins. You look at this
Boom
There's no
Shadow demon doesn't even need to be involved in this play so you can just chill
Tough times, Vivek forced out of a Terriblade immediately, has to start pushing waves and
defending with the truck for magic.
Indeed, which means if they can just kill off the Terriblade one more time, game could
theoretically end.
Building damage is not crazy though.
If they kill Terriblade at no cost, it's over.
There's not enough damage on the radiant anymore.
The glaring issue of their line of this entire time, one guy has to kill for it.
They have the Roche banner placed for LGD.
Toilet.
It's gonna snap.
Trying to focus everything onto the stairblade.
Ornate half HP's gonna get healed up though.
Tethel only nearby.
Hookshot.
They've stunned him for days.
Can do they have the layers?
Push it through!
And the Raptor Dance finishes the job.
Two minutes of no-terror blade.
LGD.
What insane layering of spells there.
Oh, clean.
Now they're gonna be left in the back of a 4 and a 5.
That is absurd.
You cannot do anything without any stuns.
And now, Miara and company left for their own devices to try to defend here.
Whisper actually getting pretty low.
And he get healed up a bit as Yuma on the back line now,
focusing on the Frogman himself along with Ty Long.
Lot of damage, she's getting a flame, but he's gonna get bursted with the Timber Chain.
And that's three deaths for Beppin without Barric, and they call it.
GG's as LGD will be going to the grand finals to face off Yandex.
Damn, that's gonna be one hell of a series. These guys are on fire today.
Last two days really. Yeah, this was a very well-played game in my opinion. They had to weather the storm a little bit against an early
high-pressure play coming out from the side of Beth Boon, but just one crucial mistake with the 5k lead cutting it down to basically
zero and they were never able to really get into that dangerous territory again the same way
felt inevitable that LGD would get here and that tricorps of heroes just looked at how much damage all of them did to contribute to this victory
on that boom side. That's the end of it. It's still a top three finish. Another one for their accolades. They have countless top
frees at this point. It feels like with this roster, but obviously this is the lineup that is targeting trophies, not podiums.
Indeed. Whisper ends the game 15 and four on the Timberside. I mean, the panel, hey, you guys got it right for once.
Hell yeah, let's go us.
15 and 4 on the Timbersaw absolutely destroying almost I mean by the end of the game almost matches the net worth of
Keratich who had a hell of a game on Terrablade, but just to say there wasn't that second-core doing damage for Bedboom
That's right. They're doomed. Here are the damage numbers Terrablade 50k Timbersaw 55, Puck 45, Kes 40
So those are the top four the next hero in line is clockwork with 20.5k and then it's
At 20 flat, King Jungles, the 5 o'clock, did more damage than GPK, that tells the story of a game that was uncariable for Kiritich.
He needed more output from his allies, but that's the line-up, that's the strategy, and the itemization that they went for, they run out of steam in the very end.
It feels like they were running into that quite a few times in the tournament, that boom, with the GPK picking heroes that maybe don't scale as well,
scale as well but didn't work out for them but let's go to the panels they have
some interview shenanigans going on. Yep I'm here with KJ after that amazing win.
What a freaking comeback after that game two how did you guys bring it back for
that game three win? Basically it felt like we won't like we won the second
game like in the beginning then we threw the game and then we almost got it
back and we were like okay there's no way we can lose right so that was my
mentality to game three I was like no matter how many bad things happened I
know that we're gonna win and it's way easier to beat you playing when you have a 17 year
old mid laner, 17 KVMR.
Right, and of course now you've made it to the Grand Finals, extremely exciting.
How do you feel about doing this run back against Jandex?
I feel like last time we faced them we were very conservative and respectful in game-wise,
making it draft wise and gameplay wise, and I think that doesn't work with us, we need
to go and do our thing, so I feel like we respected them too much for our series and
now we're going to come with a different mindset.
And warmed up.
Super warmed up.
Now, this morning we spoke and you gave me a half-high morning war cry, it was very
high, it was very cool.
Now you're going into the Grand Finals.
We need the hype for South American Dota.
Can you give it to the fans?
Oh, that's what I like to hear.
Thank you very much.
Let's throw it back.
KJ is always so much fun to get to hear from, especially
in winning or losing.
It doesn't matter what it is.
KJ is such a treat.
And he talks about it.
It doesn't matter what sort of bad things go wrong,
how many there are.
He knows that at the end of the day,
his team's going to be there for him.
He was there for his team.
And ultimately, they're actually
one of that many bad things that happened in this third game
for the battle.
Maybe one whisper death here or there on the table.
but ultimately everyone was really pulling that way.
Like he also said, after the second game,
they just felt incredibly good.
And I think with this draft and so on, this game,
they should have felt very good.
They made a lot of good plays.
I think this team,
they're starting to really level up throughout the tournament.
I like a lot of their smoke moves as well.
They're finding very good entries to teamfights
and understanding what they need to do,
because yeah, they've had so many miracle games,
and I'm just so happy to see them.
They just made it to the grand finals,
and their kind of celebration is for other teams,
that's where you get that only from a tournament victory.
But for this team, it's not that normal that you get to go to their grand finals, you can just see how happy they are and they played incredibly well.
I mean, this game 3-win, it was kind of an elegant win, right?
The fact is like the Terrapade scaling carries, it's an incredible game for the side of BB, but then you have to like kite him, you have to poke, you have to like utilize the puck to find the corner, and then you can disengage, SD to shock blinking away, like everything LGD doing, it wasn't just this win lane snowball game.
Like there was an art to how they won this third game, one that maybe we were missing in other series, other games in the groups, even the playoffs so far.
But the fact they did this in a game three, a potential elimination, potential grand final qualification, it really puts you in a good stead that they will be able to put up a fight against Shandex in the best of five.
Yeah, and it's a milestone for South America. It's the first time they've been in a grand finals of a tier one event. And I think they're all really proud of that, happy to be a part of that history.
It's very cool. And it's been a long time coming. I think it's a region that's improved over a really long period from maybe the worst possible start it could have being on playing on ping for the entirety of their pub history.
now it's even worse playing a 200 ping, playing in qualifiers on ping, the whole like flying
a million hours to every tournament, just about every disadvantage you could come up
with and now they're in the grand finals beating, teams have been grinding on the EU service
for years so it's mad kudos and it's a lot of hard work come to fruition.
I mean sometimes they're even playing qualifiers not in that region because they're here doing
events in Europe right, there's so much sacrifice that comes from a region and from teams that
are so far away with so many events being held in Europe and of course yeah you said
it there. It's the first tier one of Grand Finals appearance for a South American team.
And I couldn't think of a better roster or iteration as well among South American players
to get to do this, to know how young Ty Long is. KJ mentioned in his interview, but to have
that faith and to be able to see him really step up after we saw their performance in
Malta, I was wondering what the growth was going to be for him individually. And it feels
like it's just not slowing down in time to it.
I think especially because they're so polarizing. They're incredibly good in other games. You
don't really know if they're still the same people, but they're showing us day after
day that there isn't proven and like you're saying they're really like they have a lot
of young players especially Thailand you know he's the prodigy on the block but also the
others they're pulling their way they're sharing their experience and it's just I think it's
phenomenal that they're making to the grand finals.
I mean it's kind of the balance where like you need to understand like with a young
player like Thailand sometimes when you say hey would you want to play you let you he
doesn't have the experience you trust him and then you'll have to learn through the
competitions you play maybe that's why in previous tournaments it's not worked so well
because they gave him full trust and like now I feel like they've hit that harmony that
both coach, staff, support staff, whatever, and Tylong, they know exactly what each person wants.
So then like, his picks feel like they have way more purpose than previous tournaments.
Like, I've not once looked at Tylong and really gone, that's what made you think.
Minus one slap a game and Phil Quinn might reference that one, but on average, like...
It happens.
It happens, but on average, I think Tylong's kind of pick position and everything that makes him like,
such a star player has finally kind of become a real factor of this team,
rather than what we, you know, spoke about in previous, you know, especially Slams.
Yeah, it's a formidable opponent that they've come up against as well in the name of Betburn.
This team has, time and time again, made it to grand finals, made it to top three.
They've lifted trophies themselves before winning events, but to ultimately fall short
here, it's a hard one after you eke out a win in game two after coming back from what
was that game one that felt like they had nothing in it for themselves to really push
it in game three, but ultimately feel that it was slipping through their fingers.
every initiation and every team fight, Kezu, it was just one step further away from them.
Because like, Bedroom 2, they did so many good things.
Like, I think especially Kertage, my bro, he played his heart out, because this game was not easy.
Like, they had a very good, like, showing like the first 20 to 25 minutes, but later, the longer the game goes,
you could just see that LGD, they were just toying with them.
Just by the simply nature of the draft and having a net worth lead,
Timber goes in, there's, you know, Orbs flying around from the park, Kezu's flying around from tree to tree.
It's just really hard to catch them.
This is a pretty disappointing and painful loss,
and I think especially for Kiritich on the TV.
He was having such an exceptional game that,
you know, unfortunately, when you look more towards the team,
like, you know, GK on the Slardar,
you know, he just wasn't really pulling his weight.
He wasn't able to step up into the game.
Like, multiple times, Kiritich was able to feel like he could won V9.
Like, he really was giving it his all,
but across the board, it just wasn't the same case.
Like, Kiritich was ready for the Grand Finals,
and other players on his team just, you know,
being honest, they just weren't ready for it.
that is so hard breaking to
watch because that's like, you
know, he dies when they're
pushing the base of LGD and he
buys back when LGD start
pushing. Into theirs. Guys and
he knows that's it. There is no
more because he really was the
one that was doing so much
heavy lifting amongst that
roster in Game 3. 100% There's
really not too much to say like
60,000 plus whatever net worth.
It was like he was pulling the
weight of the damage. Unfortunately
with the likes of the you know,
lago and Slada, they kind of
really any reference point to
mirror GPK that you can really
give them again here are
dependent early game choices
dependent, but the terrible
he was the constant for you
know for BB and that pressure
you know you can just see it
on him. And it was a hard
working game. You put all your
eggs in one basket basket. You
spend all day playing the game
all day every day for years and
years and years. And when you
lose it just I mean it just
sucks like crap. You hear them
screaming from across the room
and you're like, you could see
he's like looking over. Yeah,
you hear that and it's like you
can't blame him, but you're also
like shut up, you know, like
there's you have that. I've
heard the fireworks a couple
couple of times so I know what it's like and I look forward to see them
compete in the future because I love to see the fact that he cares.
The disappointment is me says that you know at TI coming up especially
that means it matters that much more and so I think I love to see it and it's
very exciting for future tournaments that people care you know that the seeing
in their eyes that's what that's what you want. And you can very clearly also see
that he thinks of like himself he didn't like look around at like some small
smirk of like no this guy didn't play well. He knows he did very well but he's
probably thinking, what else could I have done in this game? Could I have made a better
call? Could I not have died here? And I think he played phenomenal. So just take the good
things and keep improving.
It's also a promising sign for the future of Kiritage, but also for Batman. And unfortunately
in Blast Lame 7, the journey here is over and we talked with Save before he left.
I'm here after an understandably hard loss for you guys. It was a really entertaining
series and I want to thank you for that. I would like to hear from your opinion where
you think that you guys struggled to where it went wrong?
I mean, a fair game was just given to them on draft, I guess, and that's it.
We're playing best of three with one game already losing, and yeah, that was hard.
Anyways, they're a good team, and I guess both games, second and third, were close.
And yeah, I guess maybe I just played bad, and we lost.
Maybe my cuddle wasn't good enough.
It did seem like a really hard cuddle game.
But, you know, plenty of time to improve now in the next few months before the upcoming tournaments.
What are you guys looking to do as a team?
Just chill for a bit, for like two weeks, and then try hard to the, like, EWC and TTI.
Alright, we'll be looking forward to seeing how you guys do there.
Thank you very much for your time and for participating in our BlastLamb.
Yeah, I mean, thanks everyone for watching us.
I'm so sorry that we lost like this.
I hope that we would play in the finals, but that is what it is.
A top couple of days for Beppin, they lose yesterday against Yandex and now they get eliminated by LDD,
but it's a top three finish. It's still an amazing performance from them and save ever so introspective,
straight onto, maybe it was more about my Coddle, maybe that's the element.
And it's hard to do that. There was a letter patch only a couple of days ago where
now we're seeing a little bit more Coddle coming into it. So it's not really fully on him.
there's a lot of learning codes when it comes to being able to play a best of three to make it to a grand final
Yeah, but you can definitely tell especially on your best heroes which coddle is for him
Like he is a master on this guy and he knows that there were a few moments where he had a slip up
You know you were a little bit out of position, but at the same time
You know it's maybe you not paying attention for one or two seconds, but it's also LGD
You know finding the right moves cause for instance here. They're in a good spot
They're going for kind of a weird smoke and save you know
They're going there boom immediate instant kill then later in the rollish
Maybe here's a little more forgivable, but even then you have moments
You know that they're coming you need to be on top of your game with the positioning and you cannot be called slip
And if it's even half a second. Yeah, these teams are these teams are very good, especially
I mean you said they lost one game on draft
I think this game is tough for them on draft 2 and whenever you know whenever the burden of execution is on you that level of play
Required is even higher. So I mean like you said, I think he knows it
I think you can feel after those deaths this is so stupid like this is what am I doing?
You know that's that's the hand on head. It's just like what am I doing?
So, same thing for me with Carathage. I know these guys care a lot about the game.
The save guy is in pubs all the heck in time. He's always ranked 20, playing support every game.
He's a beast, and I just look forward to seeing him play more.
I mean, the main thing, like you already said, right, it just fuels players.
Like moments like this, we have so many tournaments in a year.
Like, the fact that a player is still in their 15th tournament, they're coming to this one,
and they still have the same level of motion.
Like, many other players, they don't have that, because they are numb to the calendar,
and it's longevity. But for a team like this,
I think even like cage is a great example like when they get eliminated eliminated from TI previous events like you see the emotion
You share the same emotions. I think both of these teams just had the kind of the love for the game
And of course they'll they'll carry that through to many more tournaments down the line
I mean, it's what makes the highs so high is when you get to overcome those sorts of emotions as well
We're gonna have a look at our bracket and see where all of our top six teams had placed for themselves coming into Copenhagen
We did end up seeing both liquid and Falcons eliminated on the same day and then we got to see
The LGD beat Aurora again, reminding everyone that that was done in a 111 minute win for
themselves again and then they get pushed to the limits a second time.
Going to a third game with Beth Vim, we just witnessed and of course Yandex, they've been
sitting there chilling for a while up there.
They got the easy road through the upper bracket to the grand final.
They just had like clean games, you know, they're playing well, they're doing their
stuff whereas LGD, they're doing all the, they're bringing the fan value, you know,
the entertainment 100 minute game here, do this here, go for the throw, nearly not
make it then lose it's just you know they're doing the cooler route. Yeah they've got a little bit of a
they've got the magic honestly I don't think you see it that often teams that every single series
like yeah the other teams kind of favorite yeah the other teams kind of favorite and they keep
winning those games and that's how it's felt to feel like the entire tournament even going into it
they topped the group whenever it felt like ah maybe they make it maybe they don't and we'll see
you know but now they're in a final position to to win the tournament I think that is that is crazy
and I love the Cinderella story tournaments because they don't happen that often so you've got to
I appreciate them all they're here, of course there's magic around them
They had humor run on like a 30 second goose chase around the map
They're just running in circles and they still win the game right like it has to be a level of magic or or or something
Putting you into a winner potential winning position that doesn't normally happen. Oh, we're gonna show you
And this is like ridiculous even that this happened cuz this it gave so much space to his team
What is happening? I also don't this can only happen to cats like which other Kerry could have done this
Yeah, even weaver would die earlier if he like and with like an old where he like juke's them like
Get him out of here
That's been the joy of what game two came through the whole series right is just being deliverance off the deliverance
But LGT they needed their time to get ready for the grand final
which means we're going to take a break.
When we do come back, we'll be talking all things
about who could potentially be our winner of Slam 7.
Welcome to Dungeons & Dota, a role-play campaign
that I wrote saying, Doc Reef Prison.
I'm going to take your favorite players through my story
and see what ends up happening.
Can't wait.
Thanks for watching.
Hello, hello.
Hello, hello.
Welcome to my dungeon of Dota.
Everyone had heard about Silbreaker.
In the wake of the disaster,
you actually found yourself contacted by letter,
penned by a mysterious being
wishing to commission your services.
I have a client, they wrote,
completely innocent of all crimes.
They were implicated in the recent hullabaloo
and locked away in Dark Reef for life.
So you received your task.
Deliver an artifact through the first level
of Dark Reef prison to their client's prison room.
There, two more of their contacts
would carry out the rest of the mission to free the client and escape.
A week later, the client had arranged for you to be smuggled into the prison,
and before you knew it, you were climbing through a metal hatch into a small dark room
with a tied brown bag that encased the artifact you had to deliver.
And with that, let's see our first hero.
You were chosen for your expertise in stealth,
fully trusted to get this artifact past the guards without them even knowing you were here.
Introduce yourself.
I am Booch, a very selfie hero.
the most stealthiest indeed.
And climbing up behind you comes our next beautiful hero,
your most trusted partner for the job.
Can I say hello to my...
I think.
And you guys are best friends, right?
Yeah, somehow, yeah.
Go to deliver that artifact.
What would you like to do?
Let's move into the corridor and see what's going on.
God, you're so good.
You didn't instantly look into the bag.
It's not our business.
You're so blind.
Yeah.
How do you want to come through is my first question.
Yeah, I would just like to open the door.
You open the door, 10,000 gods see you,
and instantly kill you on sight.
What now?
Then there was a good effort.
All right, OK.
You come out, and you're actually completely fine.
You're right.
You see the flash of a light.
Oh, boy.
A slithering.
That looks like a guard.
It could be.
What will you do?
You got a, what do you want to go up from here?
How far are we in this dark right now?
Are we in a safe distance?
You're a pretty safe distance.
All you can really see is a white light.
It could be a god.
you don't know for sure I think we should continue ahead that direction
straight ahead dodging the light we're trying to stay away from the light so you
guys can come down the whole way you will move towards the darkness the gleam
of metal yeah going down you're going down being careful with your step yeah
you're gonna peek around the corner yeah I think we have to think around the
corner yeah I'm just moving to the corner and I'm peeking a peek worst case
That's a good peek, honestly, you actually kind of see that there's no God down this
hallway.
However, what you do see in the prison cell up here is maybe the figure of a person, the
prisoner perhaps?
I'm assuming they're locked in, right?
Yeah, they're locked in.
They're behind bars.
Can they see us from in there if we're being sneaky?
They cannot see you yet.
You can see them first.
But if we pass them, will they see us?
Maybe.
You've failed to stop them.
Okay.
Sounds like something is about to go down.
Is that what you want to do?
Would you like to go down this hallway?
I think we'll just send it.
What are they going to do?
Maybe we send you to sacrifice first.
OK, we split up.
We don't commit.
OK, I'll keep the bag in case you get caught, you know?
So then I would like to move forward down along the wall.
OK, bro.
OK.
I'll roll.
And he'll roll a big one.
I'll roll a big one.
18.
Oh my god.
That's a banger.
This guy has no idea.
He's honestly, he's looking like almost directly out.
And he just kind of hugged the shadows.
Where are you trying to get to by the way?
I'm trying to get to the next corner, so I'm going here.
OK.
And then I'm having a peek in here.
OK.
That's not good.
That's not good.
You're trying to be so self-in-the-shadow.
You get past this guy.
You're literally feeling yourself.
You feel yourself so hard you start to swagger before
ripping over your own paws.
This guy, who was a little bit more relaxed, instantly
hears you and comes up.
And he's like, oh, who is that?
You're not a god, right?
I'm not a god.
I, uh, what do they tell me?
Just how we're here to set you guys free.
Just hang on.
How are you conversing?
You are all across the boat from time.
Yeah, OK, fine.
You go to the corner, because you hear me fall as well.
So you come up and check.
So then I think at this point, we should probably just
come with me, because everyone knows what's going on.
Let's go boop, boop, boop, boop.
I'm butchering on in the middle.
The guy wants no one to go down.
And we say, um, what do we say?
Just how we're here to set them free.
Really?
Yeah.
You want to set us free?
Yeah.
That's amazing.
I've always wanted to be free.
Wait, pressure, come here.
The other guy gets up and he starts to come over.
He's like, what?
Who are these people?
They're setting us free.
Really?
How?
Yeah, that's a good question.
Well, we need to figure out the central system,
where we have to take a look.
We should ask for them for information
if they know anything.
I'm wait, pressure, and this is my brother, Sharkbiter.
We got put in after the whole silk breaking incident.
I think they're just trying to fill up the cells.
Anyway, what do we know? What do we know?
Shop buyers? Shop buyers are like, hmm.
I forgot. I think the guards are on break.
Okay, that's good.
Have you guys seen any guards?
I mean, we don't know. We saw light.
They point at this hallway right here in the center that you're standing.
So if you follow that all the way through, there's a door on the other side.
That's where the guards always go.
I think they're on their lunch break right now.
So it's a really good time.
This is it here.
And now it's time for you to watch Blastlam, sir.
Yeah, you're watching Blastlam 7, unfortunately, and we're not still in the tournament.
Do you want to have your best?
Can we get some solo shots of the boys trying their best?
Blastlam 7?
Sure.
One magic?
Okay.
Okay.
I'll start.
Quinn, you might want to move to the side.
I'll start.
name for us and then I say this is yes yes okay three two one this is kezu and
you're watching blast slam seven that was good I rate that one
all right this side don't choke this is Quinn and you're watching blast slam
seven the ending was pretty good I think I rate the ending thank you all right
You got this one tea. I'm looking at I'm looking at right you could step out of his brain please boys
No
And this is Blossom seven he's not even holding a wand. I know she's my finger
He's got magic fingers. Yeah, I got my fingers. It's like easier to track. Oh, no, I'm not okay. Okay. I'll try my best
I don't think I'm very good. This right now. You got this
I'm not tea and you're watching Blossom seven
Oh she's good. I was born for Disney Channel.
There's a lot of fun alright. Sometimes you're just going to have that little bit of energy.
But it's been a joy to get to watch a variety of players have their fun that way.
And of course the teams having their fun here on stage.
But what do you think has been your favorite part so far about Slime 7?
Holy bass. That's how fast it is.
There's a lot to choose from. I say that because we've had many days.
We've had a lot of content shown.
I know it's to people playing guitar hero with logo songs
Did I already mentioned the doder if not the doder again and the mini games and the mini games?
Have they actually been your favorite Kessie?
They've been I think they've been slapping but it depends also who's playing them and who's narrating when Alan cook aka bonkers is on them
Then they're asked here that they know what was there you bang on it was I like the game before the last one
I think that was my favorite the ending of that game was was actually
The one today is a bit of a Chungus game that decade was awesome. Which one was your favorite? The throwback and forth the throne throne throne
Oh, right
Just then that happened. Hey, I was my mini game favorite mini game that we played to find I like all the mini games up until yesterday
Oh, well, that's unfortunate because we're gonna look at yesterday's mini game that has been happening in the blah studio
What's the drawing reveal itself and type the hero name the longer you wait the lower your score?
Oh, I'm gonna be so bad at this three two one
type your name
He's happy if you guess wrong you get minus points. We need to feel confident. It looks like kind of beer
I bear a bear be a beer we have from production. Who puts the handle like this?
There's anyone there that makes that place logo logo logo logo this logo is that what is this meeper?
Am I like a bot?
I don't know.
How could this be?
R-Roo Master.
Okay, well, now it's obvious.
It's Roo Master.
Yeah, that definitely looks like Roo Master now.
Oh, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro.
Oh, my God.
That was not great.
Come on.
Come on.
Look what we have here.
It looks like a penis.
What?
What am I looking at?
I feel like it's a female type of body, this one.
That's just a big booty.
Look, you're kind of hot.
Do you want a gas paste on that?
I kind of don't.
No.
Are we coke chat?
That's wings.
Is that vinge, scarlet?
It's like inch, bro, like, but it doesn't, like...
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Dacuido.
That could be dacuido.
Ah, stop, willow.
That's dacuido.
See? Is it?
Okay, all right, there we go, there we go, there we go.
Do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
I actually want to sit on Nipo.
It's gonna be Nipo.
Who has tiny legs?
Is it Sniper?
Pfft.
If someone is scared of what someone is said,
why are you drawing the eyes again?
How does it have a tail now?
Is it Pikachu?
What the fuck is this?
I don't know if I should just try and guess Nipo
Every time to try to think it
They yelling the league
Fucking this is so stupid. I fucking knew it. I could have guessed it right off the bat the piece of garbage
All right, this is easy that's it that looks like a doom thing on the bottom though
Can I guess the team doing doing doing fast fast? He's not on there
It's not doing this is the only you don't have a yeah, go to the bottom. What it's been baiting you there
I'm telling you always this is like a witchcraft thing. I think it's a nickname. Okay, so you are a nickname, don't worry
That's fun this whole quiz is just baked who else would this be even do that is a nickname
Oh, he's blue. It's just more fun. Oh, it's more thing right? It's more thing
There we go, but I swear this game. They like paid you game trees. I think it's in the soil Trian
He just profit. All right, so this is bait
I'm not answering until we click the next clip because everything is a bait. This is not 3N.
Up to the wood. Another wood. Three woods.
That's a mushroom. I can't be nature's. It's be too easy.
Monkey King jumping from tree to tree.
Oh, it's the it's the meme with the kid who fell and then he dropped all his food.
It's like a dog. I'm the boss.
Is this just another repo?
Why are there lines between the words?
Stop focusing on useless information.
It's a good drawing though.
Okay, what was the hero? I don't know.
Actually makes sense for the stuff.
Yeah.
Wait, it's Slug.
Slug, it's Slug.
That was good.
They're wards.
They're not trees.
They're wards.
Well, this was extremely difficult.
Garrett, Nerds.
Oh, they are so bad.
I think everybody else cheated.
I think we're in first place.
Everyone was saying that this game has been very hard today, and I've done the maths.
So there's a way that I can win this just through not playing the game.
If I just skip everything, what happens?
I don't have so many questions right now, what actually was the maths, because I don't
want to flex on you right now.
It's eating and losing.
I think yeah, I did not know that.
Basically what production said was there's like a skip penalty, but they didn't realize
that there was like three skips for question, so with the math with one skip for question
You could just cheat the system.
Obviously.
And then, in the order of spiffing Britt, I was like,
he's a British lad, he skips games, I want to do the same.
And then I did it, got minus 2,000, and it was fucking sad.
So, that was...
The only thing you're flying is L's.
L's.
Yeah, that was a tough one.
The way that the game did work is it cost you 600 points.
700?
It was 700 a skip, but...
700 to skip a clip.
He needed to skip a clip.
But there was three clips per hero and eight heroes.
So his math was 8 by 700 instead of 8 by 3 by 700.
And he also doesn't get the bonus questions because he didn't get anything.
I will say for legal reasons, I then did do the game correctly and came second.
Just saying. I don't know if they're ever going to tell you that.
But I promise you, if this leaderboard doesn't have me, I'm going to be very upset if they have a leaderboard.
We'll see production as they will have them.
I feel like once you do it once, then you can't do anything.
Mine is just kind of bashing. I skipped everything.
What the heck is Calibash-y?
You were on camera.
That's our dear admin lead.
They're good. They're good.
Alright, thank you.
Thanks guys. I trusted you production. I trusted you. I listened. I thought we'd work together.
Did you guys get any of the other caveat to the game that wasn't shown?
It was that if you guessed the hero correctly, you had a chance to guess the reference as to what the drawing was taking inspiration from.
Did you guys get to guess any of those ones?
I had the Meepo one. Which player popped off with Meepo at the end?
Yes, so the bonus meatball question was which play-up made that debut with a meatball performance at TI6?
Yeah, Abed.
Abed? The Slok one? What was the Slok reference was?
I didn't play the game yesterday.
What?
It was the only Wii actually played it.
So it's Slok 87, I mean I didn't even guess it here.
It clicked after, that's the worst thing.
Did you get the Sven here?
Artizzi, close to Artizzi.
Um, the Morphling one? I did look at it, it was N.
She could be TP.
Oh, it was the Nifor.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, you know something like has been dead that was the pan. Yes. Yes, the panda sitting on
Well, it was the army or something. I think she said oh
Army, yeah, yeah, yeah, when he I made a night folder. Yeah
Name all the the streamers
Well, that's cuz you didn't play the game
I didn't. He's getting angry. I didn't. Yep. That's chill. Deep breaths.
Thimes are hard for you. Maybe T, you didn't do so well with your maths, but maybe your predictions
are a little bit better because if you head on over to Polymarchal, we can have a look at
who's being predicted right now as winning all of Blast's slam 7, and there's a nice prediction
for Yandex at 69% there. That's nice. I saw it 1% for Beppo. How?
I think it takes a little bit of time to update, so LGD is sitting at, what was it, 36? My eyes are really bad by the way.
It is 36.
36.
Again, it feels somewhat realistic. I think even though LGD has got this aura, this magic, this hype around them, there are these little moments and inconsistencies that I think a team at Yandex might be able to exploit.
The early game is a bit more disciplined from Yandex, they scale better, Watson's a bit more of a threat consistently.
The cores don't seem to have off-games, so I think Yandex are the favourites.
Yeah, I think pretty much every series LGD goes into, you have to favour the other team, it's this sort of obligation.
It's what makes them die, we're helping them.
Yes, that's what charges them up, so I favour Yandex.
It's also like over, it is five games and Yandex have a bit more info I think to go off of.
Obviously, LGD needed to play like more games and Yandex are chilling, you know, they get to see like
all their flexes, what do they do here? Oh, today they still really love the bad red and the viper.
And then when BedBoom banded, you know, they struggled a bit more. So I think it's kind of fair.
It's also very nice.
And the main thing with this is like, sure, percentage here, percentage there, but like,
I still want LGD to win. Even though, like, logically, you can assume that Yandex should
be the favorite, the underdog story. You just kind of want to see a team like LGD win it. So
I'm not going to be biased, but I'm going to maybe lean slightly and be biased.
Yeah, well, I appreciate Pauli Mocky giving us those percentages there for the prediction of our
got Blast Lamp 7 winner and it is just a lot of fun to get to look at LGDB, those sorts
of underdogs, the pot that they've had as well. Is there a certain hero pick that you
guys have loved? Not from LGD specifically, but overall in this tournament, overall the
66 best of 1s and however many extra best of 3s we had on top of that here in the playoffs?
I liked the resurgence of Darkseer, I think this year was very cool.
Of course.
Of course, but also-
Cause I didn't know you played pro and it was your most play, what do you mean?
You need to roast him too because you've had tea now you've had
Happen hasn't yet
Yes, I'll set himself up and I'll knock it down when it's ready. I'll be patient for that one. Yes. I'll be listening
Right suckers. What are your favorite? Mine was Parisian sniper in the group stage because it was the first only sniper
There was actually legit
Yeah, that's all the other snipers no one sniper was
Your turn
How goes move it's such simple but high high skill gameplay people think it's easy
But the Olaqa really showed it. Don't you love?
Way easier
No, my favorite thing is you guys going like oh, I love this hero and then another person kind of just like dunking on me like
Oh, yeah, you do is press Q and you just run at them and like it's super high skill
Okay, so it was playing up pocket use correctly. No, exactly. Did it matter? It should have no no
I'm not a hero that was cool was a I think the Aurora picking a on kori
So what is your what did you like I love the bench a lot actually I wanted to say didn't ask what I did ask
I specifically looked at you to give the answer so I wasn't getting set up there
Yeah, it was the vent for spare especially playing the carry because I didn't see any position for leaners, which I was super
Which you will not see cuz I can't believe I didn't see that
That's great.
Well, you can ask that, sir.
I know he's starting to walk around, so you can ask him.
Ask him, he's not going to play.
He's not going to play.
Don't ask.
I actually might go ask him.
And for me to go and ask him that, it means that we're going to jump to a break on the
other side.
It's a more grand finals action to begin.
Welcome to Dungeons & Dota, a role-play campaign that I wrote set in dark grief prison.
I'm going to take the favorite players through my story and see what ends up happening.
Caltway, thanks for watching.
So do we know which direction is north?
They gesture like up, up this way.
Okay, so we should explore this way then.
Well, that's where the dangerous person is,
so like there's a higher chance of the warden coming in, I suppose.
Yeah.
We can go anyway, who cares?
We'll be fine.
What's the worst?
I'll carry those two, and then I'll go back to Putch
and I'll tell him that there is not much there.
And I'll give him the call to leave.
What are you saying, character, for me?
I have the Quilling Blade.
OK, how exciting.
You have a Quilling Blade.
God dang.
You cut a whole tree with that.
I get a good idea.
I tell Butch, Buy me some time.
And then I walk this way.
And then you go.
Mike, why don't we just fight the guards here?
And then we get the keys for them.
No, I've already made my decision.
You just have to trust me.
I'm the Slytherin God.
How would you do this to me?
How would I lie to you?
Oh, boy.
I don't even know what to say.
I'll be like, oh, I'm sorry.
I don't know how I got lost.
Who are you?
I'm a new prisoner.
You're a new prisoner?
Who brought you in?
The warden brought me in.
You can ask her.
The warden brought me in?
But why does she leave you out here?
That doesn't make any sense.
You will have to ask her.
I have no idea.
All right, that's time to fight.
What do we need to do?
Your punch.
What does my punch have?
How are you feeling?
You have a calling blade.
OK, yeah.
I was slicing on my calling blade.
Cut them down like a tree.
OK.
A calling blade attack.
This is unseen before.
Dota players, hit me out, new meta, coming up next patch.
Roll for that.
What's that then?
Oh, it probably plays probably not enough.
I want you to like, look into that camera.
Okay, yes, yes.
It's a good wing, it's a signature wing.
It's a good wing.
If you don't, I'm gonna attack you.
Attack.
You're stuck.
All right, the next guy, he's coming around.
He needs to move closer, right?
Yeah, he's gonna come up here,
he's gonna actually, you know, decide.
Yeah, he's got a...
Pinsir attack.
Oh my God!
Yes, I'm so strong!
They're attacking for you, like your flash sheep is actually impenetrable.
It's unreal.
I think he's opposite of them, but there's a bowser off of me, I'm out of here.
Yes, literally there's a bowser off of your body.
You are the strongest man alive in this moment.
You are single-handedly keeping these two guys down, yeah.
You can cost your APHON, so you get that out.
On the ground.
On the ground, and a nice tree sprouts up.
Yeah.
And you find bushfire, you're gonna land a bushfire.
This is a high-skill spell to land.
Can I watch and learn?
All right.
That's a fort.
Ha ha ha!
You know, like, that this set up,
like, sneaking has stunned them in the lane for you.
And all you have to do is just line the bush right there,
literally standing completely still.
Like, completely still.
And you just throw it off into the river completely.
Yes, it is. And everyone's just standing there.
There's a lot of pressure on them.
Door open. It's like, I'm free!
Nice.
You came back for us, little squirrel!
Thank you!
You're the cutest creature in the entire team!
I'm not giving you a wink.
Alright, I'll finish him.
I'll press hook.
What?
Oh my god, okay.
Like if I was a guy or not, I'd be like,
ah, he gets hooked.
Roll at them.
You know when you accidentally click
and like he hooks behind himself,
it's kind of what you do.
It's like you're a classic pudging in your pop game, you know?
Yeah.
I'm gonna use a shark shooter.
Yeah, but I can shoot from the net.
You can, but with disadvantage,
because you have to roll twice.
We take the lower number.
Oh, here.
That's a three.
That's a six.
Okay, so both were fails.
All right, so you're, like, on the ground, like...
And you shoot at the ceiling.
That's good.
And everyone kind of looks at you,
and is like, what the hell's wrong with this guy?
This is like a skir-shot of the officials.
Let's go ahead.
We're looking for our clients.
Who's your client?
Is it these guys?
And she points to the two liviants.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I can shoot from the net.
You can, but with disadvantage,
because you have to roll twice.
We take the lower number.
to the Thulevians.
No, not these two guys.
We're looking for someone else.
I don't know.
I can't help you as long as it's not her.
Who is her?
Um, lady, lady Red River, but I can't let you into her no matter what.
How do you release Red River?
For that I may have to give up my life.
Could you give this to her instead?
I would do anything if it involves her.
You don't understand.
She's, she's dangerous.
She's a sociopath.
You can't give anything to her.
You can't give anything to her!
I would just go and just hand it through the small hole.
Yeah, you want to like open the grate where the food would usually go.
And just shove the agonist up through your hand.
Shove it in. How do you know it's an agonist? That's crazy!
This brown bag with a weird scepter shaped object inside with a globe blue when your rot was on,
you just put that through the hatch.
Yes.
That's your job complete! You did it!
Woo!
Easy.
Now you just have to escape. So you go back and find your friends.
Finish her off.
You want to finish her off?
Okay, fine.
So you killed my warden.
You killed Warden.
Yeah.
No!
You killed Warden in strong time.
He was so nice.
She didn't even want to be here.
She cut me up.
She's the best doctor.
You're trying to get behind me.
My poor baby girl.
Okay.
You killed Warden.
She's gone.
And then you and the two Levines go back out and meet your contacts and you escape
prison together and hope that whatever the act is being delivered to you hope it goes
well.
Easy peasy.
Good job, guys.
Good work.
We finally have our two grand finalist teams and whilst LGD have already been here in the
studio playing a Vesta 3 going the distance, Yandex arrived just moments ago and they've
been setting up, preparing themselves for our Vesta 5 year.
They've been obviously also watching the other games, so they see what was happening with LGD, but not only for us, but also for them.
This is what they've been waiting for. This is what you play this tournament for. You want to make it to the stage, you want to make it to the grand finals.
Show what you got, and hopefully take the W.
It's always such an interesting idea, like being the upper bracket team. Where our room was watching the game, we could see their room.
Like them watching the game, kind of like them laughing at some of the comedic moments, the joy of the game.
the game, like seeing them just have watched it as a fan. But in the back of their mind,
they're like, would we make this play? Would we be in this position that you can see the
Cogs are already taking and how they're going to process playing against LGD.
What's interesting to me is that somehow Yandex are considered the favorites going into this
where at the beginning of the year, they were like barely even a team, at least in close
aux to join them. And especially for players like CJ or even for Watson and Malady, who
they've just sort of become, you know, tier one players over the last couple of years,
I think it's a very interesting dynamic to be from. Oh, can they finally get the monkey
up their back and win the final to now they're the favorite to win the final that that you know
transformation i think is fascinating and right off the back of having a tournament break too
we've talked about just how intense the dota schedule is for a lot of the pros and so you
have to pick and choose when are you going to have those breaks when are you going to power up again
and i think taking the tournament off just before this one you wonder is that really the right moment
because then you only have one chance to get back into shape before you're going up into tournaments
it's like EWC and TI, but for Yandex, it didn't matter. They took that break. They really
utilized it to their advantage. And in coming back, they looked great in groups and they
make it all the way to the grand finals to our upper bracket.
It also definitely just seems like that after the small break, they took that they were
either still playing pubs or that break wasn't that long, or even if they took 10 days off,
they went straight to it like straight after.
They wrote Dota players. I wouldn't say like take a break from Dota. Like they're still
going to play Dota in their break, right?
We don't know that.
I'm going to blind the issue.
It should be on vacation.
If they're a true Dota player, your title...
Never go on vacation.
Exactly. You never go on vacation. You live in the game, right? Especially if you're trying to win tournaments, you know?
So it's like, I feel like, at least for Yandex, maybe, you know, TOs don't want to hear this, but I think it's very smart for teams,
especially top teams, to take breaks from certain events. Like, you don't need to play everything in the year.
You just have to focus on yourself and your mental health, your physical health, like, all these attributes that make a strong player.
I think Yandex at least have shown that they know how to do it correctly. To go from break to here, it's like, they have done, other teams will look at this and go,
So maybe we should start implementing this if the next season is going to be as practice
the last season.
Yeah, they've also built a really strong identity, I think, and they've really bought
into I think Sox's ideas as a player and sort of followed his lead.
I think it would be very easy for him to come into a team and maybe they're like, yeah,
we think our ideas are good, too.
And maybe there's pushback or you don't totally buy in.
But from the way they talk about them, they treat him like he is least not like IEB.
And I think you should.
The guy has insane results over a really long period of time, one of the most successful
players ever.
And the fact that he comes into the team and you listen to ideas, you soak it up all
like a sponge, and this team becomes, you know, a sort of classic Sox team, but with
the different individual flares of those players, I think it's really awesome. They've assimilated
with his idea of the game because it's so strong.
It's a really interesting point to bring up, and in fact, I know Rayer asked Malady specifically
about some of those ideas, how much Sox really contributed to what feels like a power spike
in the Index right now.
I'm here with Malady. You guys have overall had an extremely strong year so far. I was
I was wondering what it was that clicked in your team or what you figured out that made you get elevated to such a strong level.
It's all because Saks joined our team. That's why.
And what does he bring to your team that is so special other than his height of course?
First of all he brings an experience and second of all he brings the confident calls that helps us win the game.
Yeah, that's something that is way more important than people give it credit for, because we've
talked about commons before, how they can't be too cluttered, but we're never really focused
in on the aspect that it also needs to come out confidently.
You need to be sure on it, and you also need to be someone that's like, hey, you know what,
that was the wrong call.
I said it confidently, in hindsight, it wasn't the right call, and I feel like Sox affits
that perfectly.
No, for sure, and I think Quinn pointed it pretty well that you can just hear what Manatee
is saying, and I think also just for Sox himself, like he's played in so many different teams,
I fully agree like whenever this guy joins the team you just see like the team just does well
It doesn't really matter who he lanes with and there's a big difference and I like that manly talks about it strong calls are what you need
It's like how you win tournaments. It needs to be fast precise and confident
You need to want to believe you need to want to make the play that's being called out
And you need players like this in your team because if you don't all of these like stressful games
They're gonna be really strange to play may just allow us people to think for themselves, right?
Like if you have your carry player and that suddenly needs to do the drafting and also needs to do the short calling
But also has to deal with like the kind of the relationship of players like they're not going to be the best carry in the world
Right, but if you can like divvy up their load and like sucks is taking some more responsibilities
It just means like players like CJ or even you know
What's an old man of the whoever like they can just shine because they know in the back of their mind
Like if they're having a bad game
He will be that voice of reason and kind of that calmness in any game state and a lot of ways
is I think it's more important how you say something in game
than what you say.
I think that is very, very true,
and it's difficult to change that.
I think working on what you say is a lot easier
than how you say it, because that comes from within,
that's not something that you can sort of externally change.
It's like how you feel comes through your voice.
Humans are very bad at masking that,
especially whenever you're playing a game,
a very intense game, and trying really hard.
And so someone who actually is confident,
you can tell that they are, and that, like you can feel it,
and it infuses confidence into the rest of the team.
It is like osmosis.
It's really really powerful when you can tell that someone else truly believes you are going to win this game
I've had with snaking in the past when he talks and he's like no no no get these bots out of my game
Like and it's just you feel it and you're like I we won. Yeah, that's actually a really valid question
I have you guys do you think the the old school idea and archetype of a captain is kind of
Faded away now in modern doder and how we play it professionally because there's no one person makes you choke holes
There's not always one person that's dictating the drafts and the heroes
So has that idea of a captain really just kind of been split into so many different roles?
I would say so. Yeah, like it is up to everyone because also it is really hard for one guy to have the knowledge of every single hero
Like you should take charge of your game when you feel good about it when you have the network when it's your time to shine in the game because
Your hero was picked for a reason you're buying your items for a reason
So that should also come through in the communication and I think also in the part of confidence
It's not just the calls you make I think it's also being able you need to say no sometimes in these games
Like a call is made it won't be correct or maybe instead of saying we need to go roach
It's we go Roche, but when they can't we kill them, you know, it's like poke them make them come to us
There's very small things that make a huge difference
Yeah, there probably is still captain to some degree
But like you mentioned like it's the ad libs to the call right so the carry says a move but then like a person like
Saxa who you can argue the captain will then layer in the kind of the extra two or three motions or maybe they've built like a playbook of words that
Like fast rush or poke rush, you know, these other things like it's all the external things that we'll never really know about
Because it's like communication in game or how they carry themselves like during scrims or whatever
But yes, there is not as much of a captain, but I feel still feel as the elements there
It's not disappeared like maybe people do say it is I mean to be honest
I think a big part of it is there are emotional captains to team
I think in game
I feel like that load should be divvied out quite a bit because there's I know there's different periods in the game
Not every hero will be strong at every different point
And if you're weak
It's often kind of grief to make calls because you don't actually have an actor
Sit down because your strength is not support is not quite right. You gotta put no it's not almost supports or cores at all
It's just about strength just waxes and wanes throughout the game
And I think who's the leader outside of the game who people look to whenever there's a bad game to you know
To calm people down doesn't have to be a player can be a coach to but I think you definitely need
That's sort of an emotional or like a leader of the group in some sense, but not necessarily in game
I think the two are separated away. I feel like I may have put us down a little bit of a rabbit hole there
But it was interesting because we talk about so much of what socks is given
I was expecting a little bit to be thrown towards DM as well because he's added a lot more food the team with the
the newest addition. Obviously he stood in for them before and they had great success.
But for him to permanently join the roster, there's always a different caveat when someone
joins permanently than when you win something together as a stand-in. Because then that's
when you start fleshing out ideas, when you start seeing maybe they're all cracks in our
gameplay and we're not trying to sacrifice too much just because we push through for
this event.
I just always like to say like DM, he's a very specific player. I think he gives a lot
to the team also in terms of some of the things you do not see. He frees up your plus
4-player a lot. I think it's also... I mean, Saksa will look good with anybody, but I think
he will look especially good with people that understand how to play. I mean, Saksa has
played with 33-4 a long time. You learn a lot in terms of how do you set me up so you
can leave me, and I have my full free farm, get full x-speed. And I think DM, he fits pretty
well into this Archive tab, because he plays annoying heroes.
But he's also playing the annoying heroes that allow him to play into lane again, right?
Because on the tail end of P-Vision, he was playing more like sacrificial off-laners,
whereas he has to try and survive, because of course, Nigh-Class is going to be doing
something else, and that was maybe in the height of like the Slark Monk teams, even though the tier has faded,
the identity of DM's player style could still exist on that team. But on the Andex, like, we are seeing him,
like, Axes and Dunes and Nygmo's and Lago's like Slardar's, like, he wants to be, like, present and a part of the team
and, like, the aggression. He's not just playing for survival and initiation, and that you can see it in regards to, like,
the statistics, right? He's kind of, again, the games vary, but, like, just pushing from P vision to the Andex,
it is only but green in all of the stats, basically.
Huh, that's actually I'm actually surprised because Paravision was incredibly dominant. Oh, yeah
I suppose how is it so few games on
Paravision I feel like you played like he was probably filtered by the patches like the last like X I see
Okay, it's not all time games. Okay. Okay, the tail and the P vision versus the start of the end
Yeah, it's since Ti and I think that that makes a little bit more sense because they've spoken about it many times
There was a change up that needed to occur over on that roster
So that is why ultimately we did see DM make the move too.
So it does make a little bit more sense,
but still shocking to see just the biggest jump
happen over on the other side.
And he's also had, I think, a big, like what's it called,
like just an improvement curve.
Because I also want to remind people,
this guy literally lamed with someone back in the day
that was like actively sabotaging like his own gameplay
and like what they were doing.
I think sometimes stuff like this can very easily like get
to you and your own confidence when you keep losing
or you're playing on a team and you're like,
why are we losing all these lanes?
Is it you? Is it me? Is it us? It's like I think just important that you get over these hurdles and that you stay both true
But also confident like within yourself. Yeah, I think he's also a great pairing with Sokso because I don't think he's a super strong opinion
He's kind of down to like he's he'll have opinions
But if you feel really strong about something he's down to go with that and believe in that identity
I don't think that works perfectly with the team because they have strong beliefs and he is a great soldier as a player
I think that is a big part of him. He's very positive and very sort of we think this is good
Okay, I'm gonna do the thing you hear him talk about a steamy his relationship with him
Stine was very much sort of the ideas guy on that team
He sang we do this every game teams like okay
This is the plan we're gonna follow the plan and I think that for this team is great to have a guy who's just like these are the
These are what we're gonna do all right. Let's do that and you you make that happen
I think that's super valuable. He's also a player that you can push him
I think there is so much more to what he believes in himself as well
It's like yeah, I know that I can play these heroes comfortably someone else goes
What about this one and you see him really step up to the plate
That's what I think is impressing more than anything about DM joining Yandex is he's really being pushed and he is showing that he can meet those
Expectations. I mean the pressure has not really got to him at all
And I think it's it is a matter of Saksa. I mean, we're gonna say his name like a billion times
I feel like before this grand final starts and like someone else you want I'd like to if possible
It's gonna be the person that's actually takes towards of course CJ
You know Quinn loves talking about him a lot
I think you coined him as like one of the favorite midlands that you've seen I think so far this year
But when you think about like his career, like he has utilized Yandex to the greatest lengths because pre Yandex
He didn't really have any notable teams this 1w team now sure they bought out 100
But before that they were basically tier 3 for their entire like life's basically so for Tera junior
He kind of got picked out of like Eastern Europe kind of tier 2 tier 3 teams plopped onto Yandex
And now with the likes of Saksa has been just crushing it and he has taken this opportunity in strides
He was just a pop player for like until maybe what even like two years ago or even one and a half years ago
You know say the the one-win team since where he was on I wouldn't really have seen him as like a you know
Tier one or even tier 1.5 player. I think he's definitely improved a lot
I think he fits in quite well into this team
I think his improvement of like raw gameplay but also just the stableness because we keep going back to in their earlier blasts like
He did not do well under pressure and I think right now. I don't see any of that anymore
Yeah, I think that is actually the biggest thing and one of the hardest things to improve because I think a lot of players
when they're chokers they're chokers for a long time maybe forever, it's hard to fix that and
The fact that he has been able to push past a lot of that and to go from someone who's kind of skittish and a little throwy in
Games that really matter to someone who just kind of plays this game
And if anything has been really clutched in some of the harder games that is not easy to fix and a lot of players can never fix it
So I think that is especially commendable because it's especially when you've tried to go through that not many players
can do it. I was afraid that maybe after seeing their performance in chain 2 we were going
to start seeing a similar story to what we have for and I don't want to throw them under
the bus here but for Aurora right where they were going to be a team that could consistently
make it to grand finals but not really get any further for them and you've always said
at Quinn the first win is the hardest for them so I feel like it is really just going
to get easier here on out for the side of Yandex but now I wonder for LGD they're still
looking for their first win not only as a 5 man but for so many individuals over there
as well. And now you're coming up against the heavy favorites. Unfortunately, LGD are
always going to be seen as the underdogs, whether it's the regional difference or just
the draft differences too that sometimes come out.
But I think at least today they've done very well, I think, with their drafts. In the last
series, I didn't see any like, oh, I'm throwing this game out of the window. It's been looking good.
And I think also, just take it game by game. They're playing very well. They do a lot of good
things. I think when you just look overall, it seems nice. It seems more clear. There's a bit
more purpose in what they're doing. So just take it game by game. Don't overthink. Like,
like, oh, this is the Grand Finals, I play against X-Team.
Just focus on you and do what you want to do.
I mean, out of the three teams, though, that LGD have faced
to get here, of course, like Aurora to BB now playing
the Andex, I would argue that all stylistically,
the teams that are playing have the same kind of type of draft
in regards like, it needs a little bit of laning success
to fortify its mid game to then get online.
It's all like incredible snowball.
So some of the quirky drafts that LGD's had,
where you crush lanes and win by like,
feels like you won by 20-25,
it can happen in this Grand Finals.
So I think the draft, of course, will be so crucial if CAFs can find these little, like, niche picks to go.
You know what? These two lanes, we auto-win because of Tylong or something, then we just win the game.
So I think the entire finals, the Andex has to think, hmm, are they going to get us on the lanes?
If so, how do we respond to that?
There's always that fine line to ride between momentum and exhaustion.
LGT having already done three games where exactly do they sit for?
I'm not really sure going into the grand finals, but I do know straight after the end of their best of three series,
We're here with Yuma. You just won, feeling's running high, are you hyped on adrenaline
or are you actually pretty calm? Because you seem pretty calm.
Yeah, I think I'm pretty calm. Yeah.
How do you manage that?
It's not over. That's the way you've seen it.
That is true and you have been playing some long games. You know, the long three games
last night, you just played three games now and now you have a grand finals ahead of you.
How do you manage your stamina and endurance, not just for you but also as a team?
I mean to be honest like some people asked me this about the one we would finish the two-hour games
If we were tired or anything, but I think I could have kept on going
I think everyone in the team could have kept on going. I think you just you don't really
pay attention too much while you're during the game and
Until the series is over. You just have to give everything
Now I asked KJ this one's on stage you guys are gonna do the run back now against Yandex
They knocked you down before he said you guys were too respectful of them last time. Do you agree with that?
How was your view on this upcoming matchup?
We're too respectful. Maybe maybe we're not playing our game and thinking too much about what they were like going to do
I mean, I think I believe this for like a few months now. We can beat any team and we can lose to any team
So yeah, I'm confident against them. They're very good team
But I believe we can beat them. Yeah
And for you, you've been grinding for years now in NA, SA, how do you feel to be in this position, to potentially be the first South American team to lift a trophy at a Tier 1 tournament?
It feels great, it's a great opportunity. You never know when it's going to be your last. For me it's my first, like you said.
Yeah, I feel like a part of me is kind of blocking that thought because I just want to play if I'm honest
I'm enjoying a lot how we're playing right now
I think we could have ended this game in two games. It was really like the end could have been so much
nicer, let's say, but we made it and that's all that matters. So I'm just happy
Well, you've been a pleasure to watch and I am super excited for this Grand Finals. Thank you very much. You move for your time
Thank you very much
I think that's one of the best ways you can really think about it right even just coming into this tournament you already feel that extra pressure of representing an organization a name with a legacy like LGD and then on top of that you want to be doing your region proud.
And at the end of the day humor goes I need to block all that stuff out in fact he enjoys blocking it all out and just focusing on how good their doder has been lately the way that they've been able to play.
And now they're sitting at the highest placement for a South American team at a tier one event.
I mean, the beautiful thing with Dota is like, it's so complicated and it's such a gripping game that, like, you lose track of everything happening around you when you're in the game.
Like, when you're playing Kez, pressing this, swap this, swap, you know, like, you're not thinking of the trophy, you're not thinking of anything, right?
Maybe if it's like a game three where you already tool up, or maybe the game five, but like, the game itself, like, when you're playing the two hour game, like, he's not thinking of anything.
Like, he could play three, four, five hours if you have to, because in the moment, you are just truly looking in for, this is what I need to achieve, I need to destroy their ancient,
And then after our deal with the ramifications of, you know, win or loss.
Yeah, I thought one of the interesting things he said was that, like,
what was about the duration and about how they could just keep playing
and he just wants to play.
And I think he may be underestimating the physical impact.
There's one thing to want to play Dota,
but I also think whenever you played a bunch yesterday
and now you're going to play a bunch more today,
that it's you start to feel it physically.
And even if it's not like a conscious thing, like I'm super tired,
you will affect you and you see it in series all the time.
Whereas games go longer, it gets a little sloppier.
And I think they may underestimate that and I hope that they pace themselves and don't get it too ahead of it
Like get hyper amped up on the early games understand that it's a marathon not a sprint
And you do actually need to be a little bit careful this stuff because you can become very drained in these long days
That's the benefit of being at least a South American team. You have to play so many qualifiers
So normally you go how they haven't played many best of fires, right?
Because internationally they finish let's say top eight top six
But when you have to go back to your to your region you have to play up against these random parker teams
These random other scuffle teams whatever and then you have to like overcome best of fire
They've been to go down our grand finals. They've they had all the variations of the best of fives
So this is quite a rare kind of scenario for a team that this is not their like first experience of it
Like this is probably a 30 or 40th experience of this moment
So I think they already have the pacing of the series
It's just a matter of like the like you said the physical like being on site having to do it in
Across from your opponent. That is the thing that is quite foreign to them
It's also at the same time important that you help each other out
Obviously, you need to do that in the game first and foremost, but also in terms of how you talk, how you communicate.
If you see someone struggle, whether it's in the game play or you feel like they're being a bit stressed or tense,
maybe they're tired because it is very important. There's a lot that goes into these games that isn't just how you play your hero
and how you press your button. How do you feel? How are your emotions? How are you feeling good?
Because what I like that he said is, I enjoy how we're playing right now. We can lose to anyone, we can beat anyone.
So if you have a nice balance of, I feel good, we're playing well, we don't care too much about our opponents,
but you have a balance of we respect them for what they do, but we do our stuff, I think that's perfect.
That's one everything everyone can agree with, is the fact that we're enjoying the Dota LTE of playing,
and it's being so much enjoyment, the fact that we got three games in their low bracket finals.
I'm hoping for five games with the way that they're playing, but if we wanted to get to that fifth game, we've got to start off with a game one draft.
It is our grand finals between Yandex and LGD and our game one draft is going to come
up very soon.
There's an enjoyment and definitely an atmosphere happening around these two.
Jandex having to wait patiently for the earlier best of three to finish.
And they had to wait to even know who they were going to be going up against.
So that's also a factor.
Maybe they themselves in their hard spot, it was going to be Betboom all along.
And somewhat last minute had to really recalibrate and go,
it's actually LGD that we're going to have to go up against again,
because they have gone up against them already in the playoffs.
In fact, that was the first matchup for LGD was against Jandex.
And Yannix did beat them out there. It was still very competitive games, and it was also remind you the series where LGD had probably one of the worst drafts ever.
So obviously there is a lot to learn from this type of series and moving forward.
And if you're Yannix, of course you had a lot of prep prepared for either team, right, that you're going into potentially on the day, and then you finish it while you're watching the series.
So they're obviously going to be very ready.
I think LGD, they definitely have chances though. In some ways, I think their playstyle matches up well against Yannix.
It's a it's sort of an all or nothing thing. It's like the scale is tipping one way or the over because LG is running at you head first and
The annex is a bit of a slower team. They want to play for later periods, but when it hits the later periods
I think they're very favored. Oh, yeah
And so it's there's sort of a timing there where LGD I think can ransack you
But if you don't ransack them, then maybe it swings back the other way
Yeah, I think it's gonna really be like the battle of the emotions and like even if LGD have this early game lead
You say about then getting too excited and back them minds think if if they think about it's the grand finals
They might kind of exert themselves too much to go for the move
They shouldn't be making and then the index will be up to capitalizing that one thing that yandex does really well though
Is you look at their draft?
It is very balanced like when Watson goes for a bit more of a greedy a carry DM's playing a more aggressive off lane
When suddenly DM's a bit more greedy on the off lane Watson then has a bit more fight and more pipping a step from the carry
We I'm yet to look at a lineup where I'm like, okay
There is a major problem where all cores have to AFK hit creeps like they are very subtly ensuring that they are ready to take these little fights
It's also like if you look at what happened in the last series that they played.
Kes was like a very big factor in that series.
I think game one was like the the draw ranger game where I think Watson kind of
popped off and then the other two games were heavily influenced by the bird.
So it's also obviously you have a lot of heroes going into this series that
you're ranking very highly for yourself and you're also ranking very highly for the opponent.
I think game one you can test maybe a little bit you know like you have some idea against okay
We're gonna give them the bird if they are first pig and then this is our answer
But in game one is a little bit of your, you know limit ground and like limit testing
You're not the laundry though. Don't test. No, not that one. That one's been tested. You can't beat it
Don't try and it's also like with DM. He is the zoo of thinner
We've yet to really have to see him play like the beast the lighter
Of course this often gets banned but like some of those really awkward picks he can bring out
I get to really be brought into play by Yandex
So maybe you also have to respect that LGD if you start drafting in this like skirmish style
You might just get completely outpaced in regards to the zoo if you aren't ready for it
So there are strategies that Yandex haven't even revealed as of yet
And you do have to be mindful of those considering your first pick now
There is an advantage to having that but you also have the disadvantage of getting that first pick somewhat
Counted or somewhat answered right a response in that opening phase that you don't have too much of a say over
You're going to be taking out Enigma and SF on the side of LGD and for Yandex, Batrider is making it into the very first
ban, not even just first phase, the very first ban that they want to consider.
We've been asking forever since LGD started kind of winning with it in the playoffs and now finally, Yandex, the team to do it.
Yeah, it's very good. It's very smart. I think Yandex maybe need to be a little bit less scared of Ipe and some of the other teams
because they're such prolific invoker players and I think that is one of the better heroes against the Viper.
against the Viper, so if they're going to leave it, then I think they need to make sure they have answers for it.
And that's totally fine with me, but don't give it in a situation where, okay, now the GD have beaten you in lanes
and they're running you over and it's, you don't want that. You want the, you don't have solid foundations.
I could get through the laning phase to that period later on where you can outskill them and out-experience them.
No, for sure. There's a lot of bands here that I like too. I think the Badrider, of course, we talked about it.
It just makes sense against LGD. And there's a high chance, like, if you're LGD, that you're potentially looking
looking even at the first pick as here I think with some of the bands that you're
going for it was very good and like the last series that they played to
Andruid still in the pool. Exactly. I know they still won a band but yeah but LGD often
does the self-ban of the Lone Druid on first pick right. So game one of the
grand finals they have again they played it in the qualifier in between this event
but Lone Druid hasn't really been their thing so the fact that they actually
take the drought over it the drought does slaughter the bear in the one-on-one
It's all the other aspects of the draft that can make the laundry extremely potent, but
LGD giving away laundry in game one
Yeah, I mean Yannick's called their bluff
I really like that they ban me actually could see they waited a little bit longer on that ban and some of the other ones
They're like hmm. Are they actually gonna pick it? No, I don't think so and they didn't so that is valuable information for the rest of
Series that you know LGD they had the chance to first pick laundry they passed they will never pick it
So we never need to ban it you've got that locked in for the rest of the series
You'll never ban laundry, but I'm also wondering again. It's gonna want to respond to the drought with a wind droid
They don't know yet either. Yeah, and they're not going to so the information goes both ways then well
They will play laundry and I think they're just not picking into drought
So that is something to consider and they will absolutely play laundry
But I think it is a bad matchup T said it's laundry is bad against drought
And so I think it's a bit weird to in some ways counterpick yourself
Caudal I think it's considerably makes more a lot more sense because you can play a lot on the stacks
and you don't have to lane, you can just cheat the lane and then go play on stacks and not play
into this super strong draw early game. But if you have a draft that is very pick-off-based,
if you're picking like the Storms and the Codos and those stuff, and later picks Langerud can
always be in play, that's why I think LG are now banning it out, because it's like, you have to
respect the map play it brings. So, a nice little bit of a bluff between both teams.
It's also, I think it shows, like, obviously Kola is a very strong hero in the meta, so I don't
don't want to overcomplicate it, but it's also that a lot of the Caudal partners are
very good against Drow. Like when you think about what Caudal enables is, he makes heroes
good that are generally mobile, right? Your Ember is your Storms, your Queen of Pains,
and Drow doesn't enjoy playing against these heroes. So if you help enable people to keep
running forward, which is generally what Caudal does, he makes you mid strong, he heals your
team, you can keep going on to the Drow, because Drow just wants to keep her distant. She doesn't
want anyone to be close to her.
Yeah, it's cool. It's a cool adjustment. Sock says also just an absolute beast. And
It's been banned pretty much every other game that I've seen against the Undynex, so when it goes through
I think you also want to pick this hero to remind them
Hey, you still need the banners and I can like actually free up other heroes
Later down the line because you've called their bluff and said you're gonna live us caught
Okay, we're gonna crush you with it and then now we get other heroes in the future
It's such a cool undying ban as well because like with the interview from Miro on BB
The guy who's playing the undying in the drought is like the one of offline that might be able to play this in the tournament is DM
So kind of mirror respecting the undying calfs of course respecting the undying and the kind of the new tech getting shown throughout slam
This timber man is also great you you saw them pick the timber against the tree last time
Yeah, you learn from not your mistakes with other people's mistakes
I think that's also one of the benefits of the grand finals we're talking about if you've got more time to look you've got more time
To prepare you see that tree into the timber pick after you hey
We should keep that in mind and they do and now it's banned
and these are little things you pick up
that can have a really big impact.
I just really want to see Nature's Prophet again for Watson.
The idea of pressure the draw on lane, fight here on lane,
like why aren't you going for heroes at Nature's Prophet
that can bring this type of engagement?
Bane is the hero that we've seen banned
in a lot of the other games,
but of course, you know, you've seen more games,
you've seen more of the player-specific things
that the heroes they want in specific matchups,
but Bane for LGD here, quite good.
It's always talked about, it's very good against Jakado,
You can follow him, you see him, you have Nightwish, and you lane very well with Drawranger.
He was banned in all of the games in our LVR finals, every single one of them by both teams.
Very, very contested hero for good reason.
Yeah, this lane is disgusting.
Yeah, okay.
It is.
And Caudal is also bad against this ban hero, like Kezra said, so the lane is going to be hard.
I don't think there's any hero that's going to make them win this lane.
That lane is pretty much fried, and so you're playing for Net Worth,
you're playing for stacking your Triangle and farming there.
There's already a dynamic there, the potential for LGD to be attacking the NX Triangle, because the safe lane is over.
The safe lane is lost already.
I am overall then thinking, because if you're... LGD will likely look for their Theolikor here or here.
He's generally like the range, follow-up damage, so this just fits right in the bill.
But this double pick for Yannix is not super simple in my mind, just because the LGD safe lane is very, very strong.
Like you can try to have like some...
Like even if you do like you do some Largo plus one
I don't love it very much because I think even if you take those heroes
There's a Viper on 18 for LGD, which is very scary if you show your mid pick here
Yeah, you kind of need to protect CJ like Largo Storm. Sure, and it's got on paper
But yeah, Viper, guess what? That looks very happy
Like maybe you could do some Lycan plus one
Bring out the wolf
It's at least one of the most gangster counters to bane like bane hates this hero like so badly
Nightmare gets taken off you just suck it up and literally every single team fight even if you buy a gold scepter
He's gonna get another fire later
You should have an okay lane because your bane draw against caught a like in but in the game
This is ultra nasty. Yeah, I mean it is the kind of the zoo that I was hoping to see from DM in the grand finals
But I mean now Judy they're kind of setting up nothing. They've picked is like they're not hiding anything
They're kind of really saying what it is and the nature cruiser. I want the super awesome
Pretty clear. They have a very strong read in what they're doing to the draw.
They're going to close this map in, shove the waves, bring the summons, hit the towers.
Just try and just choke LGD.
And now they need to, like, I mean, if they played Kunkka in offlane or mid,
that's the type of hero that I'm trying to see.
Like, a guy who can just, like, go, play around me.
I'm going to hold them off for just a bit.
Please scale whilst I hold down the teamfights and kind of protect the towers for a bit.
Yeah, Whisper has not played a lot of stuff like that.
this tournament. You can also see the watermelon but he hasn't played that I don't believe.
Underlord as well so you pretty much just need like the blob to provide a like a lifeline for
drought to then kind of play behind. Yeah it's you need to be able to answer this aggression. I
think it's a good call on watermelon man. Tite has just always historically been ultra good against
summons. The only thing is while you're very good at like protecting your team and so on
he's not ultra mobile you can't answer every single play like natures and lichens still have a lot of
like small moves, you know, you can aggress their safe lane tower, maybe he TP's suddenly,
boom, you can immediately go mid because he goes back to the gate, he ends up in his own lane,
now you attack other sides, so there's a lot of gameplay interaction skill to be had for Yandex here.
And LGD, they're relatively low damage, right? Of course, draw with items and moxmanship can do a
lot, but they are awkwardly waiting for this to happen. Luckily, their survivability is their
friend, like just parking the tide will buy time. Just something to note with LGD, their last pick
kind of needs to give a little bit of just movement, otherwise they are just hoping Yuma can can get into the game at the correct time.
And then the Viper just to respect the tide needing the frontline.
Break would be pretty good.
Yeah, Yennex have options. Whenever it's mid versus mid, last pick,
there's a lot of mind games and you used to think about, okay, what are the possible heroes we want and what are their possible responses?
The ban side to be very accurate, because if they're inaccurate, then suddenly there's an all if we pick this, they're going to respond with this.
and then you can have problems and so before you even start banning you need to understand what heroes you want for both sides
It's a mini game that I think is not played as much recently because we don't see too many 23 mids
But it is you got to be really careful here
And I think a lot of it is the mid's job to understand. Okay, what do I want and what can I not play?
It's because you'll understand that better than everyone else
And so there's a lot of responsibility on both players to communicate that properly and not just be like, oh, yeah, I don't know
Yeah, you can't do that. You're getting cooked if that's what they're saying.
in the middle or what's happening here yeah all goes good oh god that's high and then what are we
thinking like in terms of the overall like for CJ or because I'm even there's like there's the
storm the ember for playmaking utilizing the cuddle just jumping on drow and then of course the
Zeus that we've seen rise up in popularity CJ and of course Thailand have kind of shown us the
strengths and weaknesses of the hero but I think these are the three heroes I'm looking towards him
No one poker pan.
It is a bit interesting.
Yeah, they split it instead.
They took that tier.
I mean, there is definitely an option that the natures can go mid.
Like, maybe this gives us a bit more info also on, you know what LGD want.
Obviously, you would only put natures middle if he also has a good matchup there and then
you can get an even better matchup by picking a new carry for Watson.
This is the beauty and the luxury of why they pick natures professional inside of Janek's.
I mean, Yandex would be... I would lean more towards the heroes that bring your plays a little bit more together,
whether it's an Ember or a Storm, because like in Nature's Tree and Coddle, you don't have any lockdown.
I mean, your best lockdown is Overgrowth or Sprout. So you've got some work to do on your last phase, though.
LGD has at least announced to Yandex that they are worried about the Tide being able to frontline through the Viper, the TA,
the Viper in the game, the TA in the lane. They know the Tidehunter is so critical for their lineup to function,
to function so Yandex alone at seeing the bands of course the heroes they might of course
start thinking hmm how else can we shut down this hero the problem is like gyrocopter urses
these anti-laning tide heroes they just wouldn't really enable Yandex's draft it's just more
of like a lane thing I wouldn't want to kind of promote it due to the kind of the synergy
of the other heroes. I prefer that the embers and storms that we've already mentioned.
Yeah still on the pull they're really thinking about this one which is good you you saved
your time for a reason. It's really nice to be able to use that toward the end of the draft.
That's why you don't want to blow it on the early picks, because it means the thinking
toward the end you have a little bit less time. And it can be a real problem. You can
misfire picks sometimes if you use too much time early.
Well, the cast ban is somewhat interesting. There's also some other heroes. Maybe it's
just too difficult to do stuff like this, but like, this was definitely not what I was
I mentioned I was thinking of like some primal fees. He has played to Smith. He's high long. He has yet
But he still builds like he's the offline. So if any new tech, it's just offline longer from the mid
Of course earlier levels need to be in mid. You are brought back in front line. Mm-hmm body for the drill
We're definitely not picking ember now. Mm-hmm. This is so strange
I mean, it's a really free storm pick. I feel like yeah, I think so too
In some ways, I think you kind of just walked into it because I don't think Largo is he doesn't interact with you at all
He's not gonna pressure you and you've got a lot of place to make on sidelines. You've got Caudill
Gives you jump now. You're not gonna much teamfight
But you're not playing off that you're playing off of splitting lanes off picking people off
Okay, so I thought about this but isn't this bad against Largo because he just licks the stacks off I
Guess so he definitely can I mean I guess you can still like kind of beat his ass in a lane anyway
Like you out range him and it also means he can never really use your Q for
anything else? Maybe it's also that the pacing right outside the lane like monkey will farm
Lago will farm but the monkey plays the map a lot quicker than the Lago like you drag the
TPs around you already mentioned that Tide kind of the only ravaging one fight so if
monkey's running like bottom dragging the sorry good technically top right there on
Dio so Tide then goes top then monkeys like twin getting running bottom like doing all
these quick plays yeah the lane matchup I've never seen a monkey vs Lago in the mid lane.
I mean either. I mean I'm sure it's a it's a draw worse for monkey king and it's possible that you win the lane still
You do have very very minimal team fight and you've got triple right-clicking course and stuff like she was at people tanking up
Can become a problem eventually for Yandex. I don't think they have some like scaling eventuality if anything
I think LGD scaling is better
The script is script is quite different from what I thought it would be
It's just the fact that Yandex they have like to the physical scaling cause for all nice
But then how do they kill heroes past 35 minutes 40 minutes like once you are running into a farm logo and tight
Hunter you was going to be playing behind that kind of pocket like hiding behind it
I am looking at Yandex to utilize their heroes to play into the game early
They need to do like the LGD style of play like break down the lanes get your helm of dome play through the like and utilize the fact
You have Watson and of course CJ on these type of heroes
Yeah, like yeah, Yandex want to collapse and like take over like the entire map LGD are they're quite slow
like they have two big blobs like both Largo and Tide don't like this stuff.
There's a lot of abusable things that Yandex can go for,
but if they don't get this done, like I would, I really like both drafts.
I think also LGD should be very happy.
Like if Yuma gets to the late game, it's a pretty good Tide game.
If you don't get like destroyed early or you get jerked around the entire map,
but they get like one or two silver edges where you die.
So I think we're in for a game that's just going to be decided by gameplay.
Down to execution, down to that gameplay.
That's what you want to hear for a game number one in a grand final.
and the joy of having Yandex up against LGD,
it means that we are going to grab crown
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We're gonna get something here today and it's best of five.
Oh, it's likely.
And we know both teams can be created with the picks.
And we're seeing it here in this draft from both sides, right?
Well, what do you want to talk about first?
The Largo mid?
Probably is the biggest one that we can talk about, the Largo mid.
I mean, Tylenx played it a couple of times.
He played it at least versus Liquid recently.
He did OK, but they did not end up winning the game.
He was leading versus an Invoker.
So does feel like a bit of a tougher matchup.
But we'll have to see how he does and what he itemizes.
I don't think you can deviate on this hero.
Probably same items, right?
don't think he's going to go too far out of the ordinary.
But looking forward to see how that matchup is going to be
versus the Monkey King with the Jinguys.
But there's so much to talk about.
Because the Andex, it does feel like they switch things up a bit, too.
Right?
This does not feel like the usual Chirr Junior that we do see.
It lets to play a lot of these spellcasters.
So looking forward to what he's going to do on the Monkey King.
This hero has struggled in times of playing.
It very much feels like an all-or-nothing here in the mid.
It does.
But he does seem like a similar style to some of the mids.
Right?
We've seen him on like the midnight stalker, right?
And I feel like that fits a very sort of similar pace as the mid-monkey king
because you're gonna be up and down the map as soon as you can
Trying to just be constantly looking for brawls. I mean, if you don't find them, you're gonna fall behind
Yeah, I feel- oh, Chara, already getting some good damage on Tamir to start the lane off for Tylong
I don't be decent at least getting me down to half HP. So I feel like this one also like Batboom
Both teams are doing for their own type of drafting style, not fully counterpicking each other entirely, right?
you can see that the Tidehunter pick was a very good counter pick versus the Lichen and the Nature's Prophet in particular,
but overall both teams are looking to play their different styles because one has lots of team fight,
the other one has lots of splitting the map, farming, controlling tempo. So we'll see whose idea ends up working better in this one.
Now I'm just really interested to see how this matchup goes in the mid.
This is the panel talked about obviously the monkey king is against the baler here.
He's got to get the Jingu mastery up, but once it's up,
Tiden's going to be able to lick it off and get a little bit of a benefit for himself because he's dispelling that buff.
So does that then mean that the the frog comes out on top? You sort of think no,
still everywhere you think the monkey king is still gonna feel better because
you just can be able to get the buff up more easily then he's able to take it off you.
I think at 50-50 or maybe some slight advantage for the monkey king.
What to see how they do play it. Because Tylon, he is comfortable on this hero.
He likes to play this in the match-up so we'll see how he gets.
He does with the anti-jingoo. You see Chara is stopping his attack. Did he get it off in time?
Doesn't look like he does have Jingu's theft on a beat him again at the top. Yeah
Well, he's
First bloodhead and you might actually take a lot of damage here wolves are in on top of him. He could go down
He's in trouble
They're gonna get both of them. It's myth over in the mid
We'll find a kill so Ty lung ever to play around the lick. Yeah
I think that the first time I'm actually taking it off before the balance came down
so Chura was able to get the balance connection whilst he had the Jingu mastery buff.
And he can just spam him. It actually ends up working pretty nicely here.
He's just going to be kind of overwhelming that he's spamming from these early two spells
between the catch and link and the procs done.
Yeah, the point is action all over the place.
Action off! Hell yeah.
All three lanes kills already here in the first couple of minutes.
This is what we want to see, right? We know LGD, they love the kills,
but Yandex will absolutely look to match that here.
I'm very curious to see how this matchup will progress.
Now that he does have a kill, right? You get this advantage.
And we did see Tylen be able to force and get these type of early kills with his Zeus, right?
He level one killed somebody yesterday, so.
Yeah, he can be a very aggressive mid in the right situations and...
He's fun to watch, that's for sure.
And yeah, getting the early bottle does mean that he's going to be able to get the fill-up,
so cheer us since he doesn't go bottle on Monkey King to see how he does make the moves around.
And what does this sort of mean for the dynamics of the team when you have the mid being the lago?
Imagine Build, it doesn't change, right?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's still going to be the same that you get from the offlane.
It's just gonna be a little bit accelerated
It's just a teamfighter, right? He's like he's not gonna play that style where oh, I gotta go jungle and get that item
Right, he's just gonna run around with the team is what it feels like to me
But he also can back up and farm if it's necessary because this here at those farm stacks
Cheer I was definitely feeling that pressure league
This is like once it gets higher levels to the cooldown is extremely low
So he will be able to dispel that I do every single time
It's one of those things I wonder you know for Chura Jr. on the monkey king
top lane, the walls should be able to walk this off. Yeah the walls hurt. Yeah they can't
quite push and turn back in the mid. You nearly another chance of taking down he's got the
south so he's going to be able to heal up. I just wonder how many times do you think
cheer junior as a monkey king has played against mid lago? Like how common is this match? Definitely
not. I feel like I've never seen anybody else do mid lago except for tylon. Don't know if
If I can even check all that, but...
So, if it gets slept top,
can't get the connection onto it.
This like and pick, we do have to talk about it as well,
because it's not something that's been being grabbed too often,
but I've been wanting to see something like this, some gap closers,
when there's a first pick draw, right?
I think all of us have been kind of like,
how is this first pick draw working in some of these games?
Because this should be...
You've got to try something different, and...
Yeah, and do indeed like the fact that Yandex absolutely are trying to...
Yeah.
...fast approach with their lineup.
It does feel risky though, in the regard, right?
If it doesn't go well for Yandex, if they don't get the ball rolling, things can get tricky.
Absolutely. And that's the kind of place I'm looking for with the Nature's Prophet pick too, right?
They're looking to overwhelm surround this Trowranger in particular.
Chira is starting to do better here, seemingly to die, starting to see the effect that he can't have,
since he can't always just look it off every single time.
Second low mana on Tylon too. Does he have the solar incoming? He does.
He does need that mana to be able to get these Vispels.
I wonder if we'll see any sort of early support move to the mid.
Probably could see, I mean, you know, Whisper, he's kind of chill, right?
He's able to just pull waves. We'll see in the mid.
Cheer up.
It's good damage, and the wraparound is coming in.
There's going to be a plus one from the side, if you look at it.
Oh, the little of them off of the bush. It doesn't matter.
The acorn shot and the lick's in.
Oh, that's super useful. Two versus the tree and protector.
Sure, you get this living armor from Global.
That also just gets completely licked off as well.
This is clever. Yeah, this is clever. Top lane.
TP. Yuma.
It's a good TP here for Motson.
Nothing that Yuma can do.
They're going to play very fast here on the study index.
It is this sort of play that, again, it does feel a bit surprising we just haven't seen
more teams just kind of do this against these first pick drows.
Yep.
Just have something that's going to be able to press the drone lane and run something
like this Nature's Prophet carry that can be that extra bit on top of it that has the
potential to make the drows' laning phase pretty miserable.
And also, just summons in general, I haven't seen many teams do this, because it can be dangerous later when the drought goes agonimus, etc.
But summons block the multishot. It's very effective in the early game.
Like, you're trying to just multishot somebody and you do zero damage, because there's some treants or wolves standing in front of you too, so.
That feels like a pretty cool approach from Yandex.
And yeah, at this nature's profit hero, right, we do have to mention Watson had a pretty ridiculous game the other day.
What, was it 1000 GPM or something? I think it was, or 900?
Yeah, he had like an insane nature's profit game.
He went absolutely wild, so this hero with the boss that it's gotten recently, since you get the damage for people that don't know from the most recent patch,
you get the damage from your tree and it's no matter where they are now, so it does feel very strong with that spirit of the forest.
I think we were doing the math on it, it's like 50 damage when you get all your tree and so.
Because is that going to be enough of a fallback for Yandex?
Say, you know, we get like 20-30 minutes in, they're not dominating the game, it's slowing down, can Watson be like,
It's gonna be fine guys. I can carry this late game on my nature's profit. I do think so. Yeah, it's a pretty good insurance policy
If you don't run LGBO
Also, LULA is struggling. This can't see getting ran. As I said, this top lane set up with the fact that you can bring the nature's profit in
It looks great. And they're using the pressure perfectly just doing everything they can to get as many kills against Schumer in this laning stage
You need a moment. A lot of pressure coming in. Yeah, it's overall right to it. Their lineup is about this constant pressure
It's taking towers. It's taking objectives. They have heal as well the sustain that comes in not just from the coddle
But the jingu all these little things something from the trade protector, so
It definitely very strong here. Oh, do we see it? Yeah, he's trying to cut his tree. He's dying trying for it
Silent
Shuffed in on the mid they're still looking for cheer junior up in the trees
They're playing a fair amount of pressure. He started for pretty far behind in terms of net worth
He's a thousand behind the Largo now
Yeah, I like this from LGD, right? They know that the top lane is kind of hard to save so they're gonna bring the draw towards the mid
Put the pressure on that's because whilst, you know, it kind of sucked getting pressure on the top lane
It's also gonna suck for Yandex, right? If his monkey king isn't gonna get a good start to the game
He's already at the lowest on the CS they're taking his tower way early and as we say what we've seen a lot of mid monkey king games
Fall apart pretty early when the monkey king is not able to start getting the ball rolling
I think it's not an easy game for Turo Jr. to find those players in the side lanes if LGD group up and LGD
They're gonna be grouping up pretty hard pretty early right because they have a mid logo and an offlane tie
Absolutely, and yeah, we've seen as you said the monkey kings if it doesn't win the lane
It starts to struggle to find opportunities to look for farm because you did put two points in Jingu as well
So you don't have the max primal
He did save a couple points that does now have three points in the primal spring to get that farm to catch up
So that will help him
Yeah, he's gonna need some help to catch up because this is the thing
This is the worry at the moment. He's down there with the net worth of the supports. Mm-hmm
We've we've seen monkey King's struggle to climb back out of that area. Absolutely. That's our watch it right?
If you absorb solve that net worth and you can get some really good items this game in particular
Can go silver edge versus the tide hunter since this tide
Didn't get to talk about the pick in general
This is an excellent counter pick versus the like him as we've seen time and time again simping versus the MP
But eventually those breaks will come in
That was proud to play pretty safe down here.
I really like that Yuma rotation.
He loses his top tower, but it's up design.
He can't go up there for the moment.
Now he can start going back.
Has to be careful up here, though.
There's a lot of vision.
That's something that we're going to see Yandex play around, because this time around
LGD, they don't have the best vision heroes in comparison.
There's going to be wolves hunting, trees scouting, a treant scouting as well, too.
So Yulet does have to be careful of his positioning.
Woooah, let me be able to put a stop to the TP.
Lusper has a point for Ravage if he feels like he needs it.
Thailand's coming in.
To Watson.
Doesn't look like he's going to receive any help.
Going down.
He's just dead.
They ought to take him out.
No need for the putting a point yet into the Ravage.
They can keep the pressure on the tier one tower.
Fish acquired.
And still able to hold the skill point.
Hold onto that Ravage, of course.
Another tower.
On the flip side, looking at Yandex positioning, so they are looking for Yuma here.
They do want to try and get something in return for losing their carry and losing the tier one on their bottom lane.
They're scouting his movement here.
Malady might just both put his knee.
He wants more than the carry, yeah, who walks past that.
Yuma's not going to expect this, so Malady can get the setup, but no one's really quite close enough to connect.
and ETP.
Jirijunia's trying to come across.
And PTP plus the wolves.
They should get him a bit of a death.
Oh, he's proud of himself!
Okay, so make some trance, I guess.
I guess.
Well, Yuna's actually gonna be able to get back to the tower.
Lisp is in, there's a Raphage at the ready.
Yuna's alive.
He's fine!
Did he mean to sprout himself?
I don't think so, but I happened.
And now Yuma.
Okay, well.
Well, that was awkward.
Well, that happened.
I'm not, yeah, he didn't mean it.
He just double, he must have double-clicked it.
Yeah, something happened.
Yeah, that's... still trying to run DM.
DD gets dispelled off, whisper.
Jason forward for another one, we can't get him.
I can't go as many against the Nightmare one.
Close.
That's a good reaction.
They keep the Humor alive, keep the 10-2 perfectly fine.
And they get earn charges too, so they can heal.
Yeah, this was...
I mean, there's no way he did that up here.
It happens.
And also, I mean, Humor gets the Gust off,
it gets Chira during the Pival Spring as well, too.
So he would have died if all of those things didn't happen for sure
Don't you deal with you very happy that you listen a little sloppy little sloppy there from my undexed but
That's it for them. It's their first game of the day
So what we know to true true and game one of the best of five whisper also left the fish up there, too
Here we go. This sprout doesn't miss what's in Zen catches tie long
And they have pretty sleepy though, so even though they get the connection
He's still able to run away and we have to mention to rate for Yandex
very limited lockdown on their team. It's gonna be the boundless strike and the
overgrowth for a very long time so that can happen a lot right we could see
Yuma we could see a lot of heroes just walk away in these situations.
Deolacorn, he will not hold the leg. Soxa is getting all the last hits. It's gonna be a
fast holy locket for him but I think his cores are gonna be a little sad at
least Chira who wants to catch back up here.
Level 6 hit for the tree.
See the first level 6 support.
Very early that he does have this and he's pretty farmed too, he almost has a drum.
Pretty impactful.
It is able to get licked off of course, this overgrowth, so have to watch out for that
too in the mid game.
As you said, a lot of different things that he can lick off.
They're stacking. It's a little difficult for them to make aggressive moves on their
own. They're very good at responding to aggression, but until they have this level 6 on KJ, it
does feel kind of complicated for them to just make just a move on somebody here. And
he has a bit low level on the bay. Probably going to get 6 around that 14 minute mark.
And then none of those heroes up here.
Tylen and Theolokor heading over, Dm's gonna pop the O.
He's got a creep.
And this way he's gonna hold back Saksa, Dm's gonna turn his attention over to what Theolokor
with the Boundless Strike does miss, doesn't matter though, they still close in and kill
off the hoodwink, but the Info and Tyne is there for Tylen to safely get back.
Dm is going to be very strong once he gets this Overlord as well too, he's gonna be one
the biggest threats to them, especially if whenever Whisper is not there, right? If the
rest of the heroes do not really address the Lycan very well, so it's going to be up
to Whisper to control him.
Yeah, I mean, because Whisper's going to try and, he's going to go for this pretty early
ag's, right? Just go for the phase into the agonims, before he came here, sorry, before
Blink or anything else.
And then he'll get the shard afterwards, right, versus the Lycan, I imagine, so pretty early.
It's so good this game.
And he is getting boosted, like looking at the stacks that are being made as much as
Sound time in this game so far here. It's not been down time from KJ. He's been put in and work for those stacks
So big money for whisper here. That's gonna accelerate
He's gonna have it done after both these camps. It's going to be one of the fastest
Tied eggs right? Yeah, it's not normally the first time is it which how good is that when it's the first one?
But you only have one point in gosh, I guess he's saving some points. We can put more in it, but that is true
I don't think everybody acts with level one gush.
Okay, so I think he's got points health.
He'll definitely put more points in there,
but that's kind of funny to see there.
Works pretty good with their lineup overall too.
The mobility, sure, it's there from the liking,
but the rest of them, not really the most mobile heroes,
and the gush, it slows in absurd amounts.
60% slow at that amount.
Just sort of the combination, right,
of the gush and the multi-shot.
It's a little luck.
The match made in heaven there, right?
You got the slow, the arm with the physical damage.
Valady sees Yuma. Yuma is relatively low HP right now too.
Oh, you're bringing it. You're bringing Watson. He won't miss the Sprout this time.
Well, if he can get him range, okay. Can't get him range, so won't have to chance to miss the Sprout this time.
Yuma. I felt like he was definitely gonna die there.
I mean, it's pretty big that he gets away from that sort of attempt.
It feels like two times that he probably should have gone down. The Yandex does not get the kill there.
But Watson's still top of the net worth.
I was wondering what he was doing with this one, but I guess he's just farming some random
camps.
Interesting.
Not the best creep anyway.
He's getting a new one.
Yeah.
And yeah, the axe, it is done.
So Whisper, he's got three points.
They do find the catch on the Watson.
That's a huge one.
Kill him.
Watson off top net worth right now.
Tylong and Theolokor.
A successful hunt from him.
How'd they find him there?
Yeah, I guess they just knew because he was still up there from earlier.
Just had that frog stuff control completely
Thailand's making the logo look pretty good right now in the mid lane. I like it more than in the off lane
So far
The end I don't you point it up in the day he did spend all the people points. Yeah. Yeah, that's good
It will be an axe with the maxed out gush ready to go here for this fight is super strong on the side of
LGD, but as we were saying Yandex, they're not really looking for teamfights, not with this draft until they have more items,
way more in particular on the Monkey King too.
Okay.
Their draft is more about just splitting the map, looking for these individual pickups and going for straight objectives,
because it's a Lycan and a Nature's Prophet. These are just straight-up objective takers, those Buildings, Tormentors, Roshan's.
KJ now has six, so for him it's much easier for him to set up around the map now.
And a duo, Tai Lung puts the other core, they're just moving around together, looking for these
kills, they have a lot of damage between the two of them here. This is a very good window here for
LGD. And they get the gush on him, so a nice little fish falls for later on if he does find it.
You'll get his death so done. Okay, but he is, bottom of the core is by a pretty good one,
One K more.
It really does feel like one of the more volatile mid picks
for the Monkey King, and some of the mid Monkey King games
that we've seen.
And this was a last pick, right?
So I just wonder how much kind of the rarity of the situation
for your unit being against the Lago mid plays into this,
where we might have got baited by thinking some melee here
is going to be an easy lane.
It didn't end up being an easy lane for him.
No, it's actually quite interesting,
because it also makes their lineup pretty much
all physical damage.
Sometimes when that it when your lineup is full physical the enemy team could just itemize for it very easily
It makes it much easier for you to just go for like go set
There's any of these smaller type of items to just counter this full physical
Yeah, I mean just the carry as well. You were right. It's gonna super high adge exactly gonna be pretty good on him
Yeah, so this can run into some pretty big problems if they do start falling behind too much in this game
So they don't have a great team fight
Exactly so though is here if you can synergize them perfectly it can work pretty beautifully
but it's definitely difficult to do so.
They're gonna smoke with this, with this desolator.
They need to start, they need some action with this desolator.
They're not finding kills,
they're not getting the scout that they ideally want.
Cause whispers the one that shows in the tier two,
but do you really wanna go on a tide near a tier two?
Nope, nope, nope.
Not until possibly like a silver edge,
or if you can fully surround him,
sure inside of a wolf pond, so it's complicated.
I mean, this moves kind of just ended up avoiding LQD entirely.
KJ, he is gonna get hit by the wolves.
The shard is online, so he needs help.
These worlds just decimate supports when you get the shard.
What is it called? High wind, I think it's a high tail? Yeah, high tail.
That's a lot of damage.
It's, it's, you can't do anything as a support.
It's super annoying.
You'll get the help from Yuma, just in time.
And Yuma of course is looking to deal with some of this. He's going to go for the ags.
And he's about halfway there.
Makes sense this game.
Doesn't want them to just block everything. And they aren't going to split.
Pretty effectively too, once you get these connections.
Slow pace game, 8-6. I think Yandex ideally wanted to get a lot more of these kills early on.
kills early on. That's how it helps you deal. They have a pretty good power spike here. The
Kaisan just finished for Ty Lung. Whispers you said. Axe is done plus Blink.
Chiro Junior. He's got to be careful. It's a scary part of the map. Might just go for
King Jungle. Yeah, just... Oh, and a boundless strike. Watch the Deso stack for sure here.
Can he get himself out is the question. His team is coming to assist. No, he's up in the
trees somewhere. Do they have any distillers? They have one more distiller. So if you look
or can look for him,
Oh, what's the time with the jump? I'm sure you need to step ahead. Who get away with
this? Guess the kill gets out.
Nice move. A big one gets the best of stack important for him. And what I watch in this
farming like a beast. He is accelerating faster and faster than the Stral Ranger.
Yeah, I mean, I think it might have sort of gone to the point where he is not going
to be too hungry. That's the temptations to keep into action.
Sure, Watson's in just full farm mode at least until BKB because that's the right look we always mentioned it when you're playing versus
Team that has more team fight the BKBs can just be that answer a lot of situations. So
Dm also descending the dragon and be very disruptive
Interesting
If they get it if the kill it he's got another guy's they should
He won't fit
Does get the awkward growth off, does it back up?
Jirka is here to try and help out!
Thailongi!
And then onto Thailongi, bird of the Jingu, quickly taken off by the gachi lake,
TPM from Watson, he'll get sprung down the time, set the clutch way out,
and on the strike down onto the Lago, he's under the tower, he's running away for the Walsher upon him!
They put on Thailongi down and can get the pressure onto the tier one!
Malody lives the whole time too, they try to go through this aggressive play, it doesn't work.
They can maybe, they can pretty soon go into Roshan, it is going to be shifting,
Maybe not immediately but very quickly here. We could see yandex set up for that one
Malady getting some nice early deep deep vision down super early here
That they will not expect one bit. Oh, he's insanely farmed. He's got this drum
He's got the tumblers toy
Which is probably the one of the best neutral items for train protector because you can jump in like over these tree lines
He's gonna blink very early. I mean both that supports are in pretty good position
Yeah, taxes well on the way to the poor stuff on top of the holy lock in Yandex
The space to go through Tormentor. They're getting the objectives now that they wanted to be able to hit
So even though they didn't get those early two kills that they perhaps missed on Yuma
They are getting these timings coming together here
And KJ he did use a fiend's grip on a creep so they do know that it's so on cooldown for some time
And they have to be careful on the side of the how they mean they get away with this
There's I there's no way that the index doesn't confess. Okay, so they'll actually look for the smoke move
First
Boxer
Chip catch him here
Let's move maybe with that they can go for the rush
They do have the gush. I mean, I say they got the high physical now
They're gonna be pretty aware that LGD's in this area and this sort of moves likely
So surely there's gonna be some temptation to try for a steal it can you not try running in without the coddle
Yeah, about your healer versus this tighter versus all this big team fight
Perhaps they do just have to give it up here.
I mean, this is pretty big news for LGT right there.
They have 5k down here, 21 minutes in.
But they've just killed a support, and apparently they're able to get the freedom to go into the roach and get this Aegis.
Very handsome move.
If they don't kill the Cottle, there's no way they can just go on into that.
They're going to be blasting, they're going to be able to set up with the five of them, but...
Exactly.
5k gold down, doesn't matter.
Ages and drought, and the roach are going to be there.
Sure does get a good bow this watch has turned up.
Highline, we can get out of the river here.
The damage coming from the nature's wrath, but be fine as he heads over to the rest of his team.
DM is charging in.
Trying to send the summons onto King Jungles.
It's got the Ghost Scepter.
DM wants to continue to move forward.
King Jungles should be a trouble indeed, because he is ripped apart here.
By the summons, the rest of our duty back under the tier two.
Oh, sure. Let's see.
Yeah, there we go.
We're good too far for them to dive, so they'll settle with the support kills.
These BKB timings are going to be super strong from Yandex as well.
Wattson's farm continues to be absolutely crazy, just like he did the other day on this.
Yeah, he's really starting to get quite far ahead of anyone else in the game.
And Chira is very close to having his BKB too, so then you won't have to worry as much
about getting licked.
And once levels do come out, there are talents that can actually assist you pretty well versus
this Largo too.
The 20-Towns, most people don't like to take it anyway.
the Jingu Mastery undispellable, but could be an option if he does feel like he needs it.
Okay.
And in terms of the build, are you all right with this game because-
Which one?
The item's pretty key for both of these. Here is the fact that the Tide and the Largo are both going for the Sheevers next.
What do you think there's a chance that Whisper will change that?
I think Whisper is gonna have to know-
He is. He's actually- he's going for Jules now, said.
And I think this is smart because he knows that the Silver Edge is gonna come out.
It's- he knows absolutely they're gonna build one pretty early in this game, so I think he does need that deterrent so he doesn't just get broken and killed.
to build fuels himself, protect himself as well too for a bit more time.
Yeah, and as we saw, you know, Thailand, he's going to be able to get the shivers online
relatively soon. About 1400 gold, that's how many he hasn't done.
So they are looking to just build all this physical resistance, as we're seeing.
The Ghost Scepter from the Bane as well to protect.
6K lead now for Yandex, getting more and more of this vision controlled.
Like you said, these wards, Malady's placement that he's been able to do,
it's giving so much info.
They kind of know everywhere that LGD is because of this.
between the shard and those off squirts that he's placing and the wolves and
the treants right there's just 50 different vision tools that they do
have. They look pretty annoying. It's Bane's nightmare, literally.
Smoke up. LGD, do you want to get something accomplished here with this
Aegis? They want to look to force a fight. They also do have the ULs and the shard
on Whisper. So he did switch the build up and now he has the grab for us to the
like it at least. Yeah, this builds a pretty good timing on the tide. Got stood out for
the trees. Got BKB. He's got it. Got a BKB and run. The ult. Bottom. Come out from DM.
KJ. What's it? Shoes his face. And the ghost will not save him. The blast comes in from
Saksa. Pretty split up now. This is what Yandex wants to play with, right? They see the four
of them mid, they're like, okay, we're just going to dodge, split up the map, watch them
We'll just continue to get that farm and get closer and closer toward that silver edge
Which is the big timing for them. They're just trying to kill that tide and force a fight with the BKB's
So Yuma they wanted to get they want to get something big done here with this age
Just a at least forced sure to pop a BKB, but they wanted to get more
I'm gonna try and see if they can find anyone back on their side of the map
Oh, they're looking for cheer again. He does show himself and BKB is CD
And what's would be the huge catch
He just pops it immediately, no hesitation.
I like that, like no hesitation BKB. Just in case of things, he doesn't know if there's gonna be like a blink ravage point blank or something so.
Oh, that's quite a nasty little snipe there. Malady able to get the curry of humor and that had the rest of the hurricane pike on.
That is pretty massive, yeah.
These two timings for the drow are pretty important, the pike and the manta, right? The disco versus the overgrowth, also a way to distance himself from the light.
They're gonna try for Whistler.
He's gone up pretty far on the bottom lane, and that's a ravage!
He has the gem, he's got to get out.
He's got Blink up in a second.
If they kill him, that is devastating.
He's got the Blink.
We'll find the catch on Malady.
As deep as he's still in the corner, they don't know where he's gone.
Okay, he sneaks away.
Oh my goodness, he gets the gem out of there, waiting for the ball to come.
That would have been brutal if he lost this gem,
because they just picked it up to try to fix the vision that's going on.
Yeah, well worth the ravage there, to be that safe.
Unless he dies here, of course.
Yes, don't keep the balls around him. Okay, we'll survive. I that's worth it. It's it looks kind of cloudy, right?
It's probably the ravage at that but to protect your jam, absolutely
See if Yandex looks to punish the fact that that is on cooldown here
BKBs are down for about 20 seconds on Watson, but when it comes back up, they could look for a fight around this
LGD, Aegis is getting reclaimed in about 10 seconds here
Now Wilson's gonna pretty insane damage. He has it on already. Yeah, that fire head and
In this wave we'll give him the silver edge
And I'm curious to see how the Largo is gonna progress right? We saw his early game pretty solid
He's gonna have his Shiva's finished up to see how it progresses after that
Yeah, both him and Chiro Junior a pretty similar point in that left
And it probably feels pretty good as a monkey king to be at this point after a little bit of trouble
As I said, we've seen many a monkey king fall way further behind than Chiro Junior is. Hi, Lug
It's a lot of physical. Easy block off. And absolutely anytime that Watson TP's in now.
So very quickly, help them pick up the kills, they'll find the elicor, also one of the tier two.
This physical damage, even though they are itemizing to do it, it's overwhelming.
It is a lot.
AC, Hal, Deso, what are they sitting at? Minus 18 arbor? At least in most of these situations.
Even the Largo looks kind of squishy, did not have the shielders just yet.
No for the chance here and it's accelerating things again here around these BKBs. They know the ravages on cooldown
And they back up Soxa yet to fully commit for the build, but he is queuing up the orchid at the moments
This was making good progress on
What if the hex I wonder socks will actually go for this or go for something like it
It sounds and we haven't seen it purchased as much anymore
with the agonims because he's playing for the bane, versus the bane who eventually will get the aggs also
and then you can just put the ignis down and it's possible to fill up the fiend's group.
We'll see which one he does commit for, because I'm trying to think why he would want the orchid fully.
Of course, first Largo, it's fantastic in the supports, but versus the...
Sure.
...the tide in the drain, it doesn't really make sense, so we'll see what he commits for.
Yeah, he's gonna have the time to consider switching it up.
Chira, progression continues for him also, about to have his harpoon, so we'll be able to distance himself away as well.
LGD, Ravage is back up, but a 10k lead now has been claimed for Rihanna, because they are avoiding Ravage teamfights and they're getting a lot on the road.
But at the same time now, LGD, it feels like they're not necessarily looking for Ravage teamfights, right?
They're not really looking for much at all.
I think they're having difficulty dealing with lanes. There's just Trients, Wolves, there's constant pressure on these lanes that they have to deal with, so I think it's just difficult for them to just look for the fights in particular.
So you think I'm not necessarily happy that they can't have the luxury level fights like you think they would ideally want to be doing something with these ravages
I would think so with the Largo tied. I know the other guest like yesterday right there the Zeus that scales infinitely
I don't see the similar thing for the Largo in particular. It does feel like it's gonna end up being the drought
versus a triple core lineup at some points with a healing sustain so I
Imagine they want to get a little more out of the map here now since things have just started to get
Pretty Yandex favorite in terms of how much they're just playing the economy game.
And he'll commit to the Orc. So the Orc is here for Zaxa.
Okay.
A pre-Ax on the bin does have, of course, great merits.
And ever since the Largo, it is super effective.
So that's probably what he is thinking.
It's just gonna shut down Tylun completely.
Jojini is looking at Whisper, but he's on his own. Of course, Watson came joined, but
probably not going to want to do anything about that tide.
Gangers, they know me as the ULs too, right? So they have to be pretty clean how they do commit for a Yandex.
Looking for a fight here.
Well, GD's around, so it looks like that they're now in a position where they will try and fight back.
They are 10k behind.
See if Yuma can keep his positioning safe in particular.
Because if they do surround him, he is very dead and they have great ways to do so.
Malady continues to scout.
He's being super annoying on the straight, and he's progressing to components of the agonims.
Well, I was thinking each and every time, it's kind of hard for DM to not feed the ancients
because they just get dead in the water by the tide and easily sets them up for humans
to kill them.
30 minutes.
It's an easy 250 gold when they do get sent forward.
LGD preparing for the tormentor.
Should just be able to get this one, Yandex.
Don't want to get into a 5v5 fight again either.
Super quick damage from Yuma.
It's playing for the lanes, playing for that farm on the side of Yandex as we are seeing
even Malady who said he's gonna get the axe pretty soon.
Times are there but it never you know you never really know where Yandex is
gonna go with the sort of lead right because they are they do like to get
the lead. They might not be shutting this game down for another 30 minutes.
And LGD is one of the teams that have shown it very good stability of coming
back versus these. They are good in the late game. They are absolutely no yeah.
It's prime element for them you know I was actually talking to I was talking to a
couple of them and they were you know this overthrow kind of style gameplay
when it gets to late game that's where they thrive like we used to say about
the SCA teams that's what I say thrives to so whisper hex is done for him now
to I should perform on this time I feel like this is every game as well
pretty much on whisper right is one of those offlaners they just find so much
out of the map it was a fantastic pick for the tiger to raise all physical
damage looking for another aggressive play here yandex trying to catch them
split up here.
Oh, he's going to die pretty quickly.
Let me use the overgrowth and LGD will not...
Well, I said I won't send anyone else.
Whisper?
They're going to try and bail Whisper out because Whisper's in trouble.
It's overwhelming physical.
And to a junior, to a four.
Get it.
Ooh, okay, the grip comes in.
It's deep.
Yuma's going to be able to turn.
They bring him once and down low, but they can't quite kill him.
Sproul, I'm off to Yuma.
Yuma's trying to finish once and off the shark.
Yuma comes in.
We'll finally bring him down, but it's cost him the three lives Tylen's bought back for this.
Chirojune diving the base, killing off Thiala Khor.
The Andex is playing their draft beautifully to perfection.
The lanes are just always in this rough position where LGD has to go back up and dress lanes,
and then they do get picked off because of it. They're getting split up over and over here.
They do get Watson.
Well, I know that it mattered, but somebody cut the tree that Chirojune was on.
I didn't see what it was.
Well, let's see how she hit.
Who cut it? Didn't matter who cut it because they still took the fight ship. They lost Watson, but the fight is still very much there.
This is a beautiful setup here.
At this point it's just, look how much damage Wisp is taking. Super far on the tide, but...
They have minus 18 armor, so yeah, he's hard, but he goes down to 0.
Huh.
I'm sure.
Either way, big flight went for Yandex, they back up, they also aren't able to get the Roshnow too.
17k lead now for Yandex.
I feel like they are just playing this draft beautifully and Watson has continued to be super farmed
and we perhaps are seeing some of the struggles of the Largo again too.
They are just playing beautifully around it, they're scaling around it too and this hero can't just get caught.
Pretty easily versus all the information that Yandex has.
Pretty massive lead now at this point. Aghanim's, it's their formality.
He's killing a blade now so he knows he can just stand in the face potentially of that drought.
Trowel
What?
All dust
But it still looked weird
It was like broken before it landed on it, right?
Yeah, that's how it works though
It's got the tree before it landed, so okay
You're right, yeah, so just the dust pushing there
DM's creep onto it
Ag's done
This tree, Ag's, looked pretty broken
KJ has been caught in the trees
It sucks, it kind of just solo-closers
Easy for Saxa there
That's also what the Orchid gives you, right?
They put the solo-closers
Easy solo-kill potential, yes, I hear
No, don't look at that
Don't look at that. Don't look at the nature's prophet old. It was the socks are so looking. He did his solo
He didn't need to carry
Don't know carry what's the pretty much got the day list done
They are truly next time flying out very soon here and look at the right look at the positioning of these lanes every single time
I think I've looked at the map and they just can't get it past the river on the side of LGD. There's summons everywhere
Summons wrath of nature just everything being thrown out there and a Chiro Chiro overall has made a fantastic recovery in this game
to he essentially has the scottie finish now too and even these tank heroes even the tide
not having the armor now at this point it's a concern for him right that's maybe why
whizber won the sheavers too he died very quickly couple seconds he could just get
exploded in a stun plus a silver edge
butterfly is finished up for yuma so he does have this very good timing it's just everything
around him that started to really fall apart.
And just the fact that it seems it's pretty impossible for these carries to keep up with
Watson when Watson's on the nature's profit.
I think this hero is probably going to see quite a bit more play.
It feels like it's super strong in this turret meta.
Just you're able to show up to every single fight.
It just gets so much damage from these trades.
And seeing how they're playing it as well, I really like it.
I guess these drows.
You just TP into the lane and add a plus one to take in the drought down in the laning
stage.
I think the laning, the lichen plus MP picks right is really clever when you're playing
versus drought.
That's why I mean we've been saying so much there's no at this first quick drought.
It's gotta be countered.
It's gotta be countered and we are seeing the index with the concept versus it.
Not only that but also right we have to mention the howl, forgot to mention that early, attack
damage reduction.
All these things really do add up in these teamfights.
Yeah.
Even the monkey king too right?
Wukong's plus 25 on right as I think you know you can't understate like how easy it is on the mid monkey king to just completely lose control of the game when you
Lost his power seven minutes in and now he does
He is absolutely huge now at this point Scotty picked up very nicely played after not an easy start the game for cheer junior
Pretty damn good Scotty game to versus the draw right versus the range just the extra slow
you get super good and he is insanely tanky now the monkey king too the damage
it's pretty much all the drown out this point all up to Yuma yeah I want it I
don't want to see him go too defensively I think I want to see him go just for the
crit probably now at this point I feel like the day this is gonna be more
tense than the satanic especially about the sharp right he's gonna be sat back
on the high ground defense and hold them back in between gosh and a moldy
shot from the drought. That's a lot to try and push into even if they are as far as ahead as they
are. The high ground hold can still be pretty formidable from LGD despite the fact that they're
so far behind right now in the gold. And they do have the axe fiend script but KJ sold his
ghost scepter for it so now he's super vulnerable he could just die to the summits in seconds there so
we'll see what Yuma does go for because I can understand the wad for satanic because he's playing
with this tree overgrowth there's a lot of different mini-disabled and all that so if he uses manta wrong
and he gets overgrowth, he's screwed.
So that's probably why he's thinking the satanic.
I imagine that with the fact that the axe is there,
so in terms of an answer to that,
is it just going to be Malady saving the blink overgrowth
for when he sees someone getting fiend's grip?
Because that would stop it, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
That was what I was telling you in the back.
It's what I think the tree is one of the hardest counters to a bayonet.
Yes.
It pretty much...
Like, he'll save it for that every time I do any one.
That's going to be the thing that Malady is thinking about the most.
Either...
Does Drow click Manta?
If Drow clicks Manta, you blink overgrowth.
It's a spango for Fingert, you can play Overgrowth that so it does have multiple different options
The lead just continues to grow and LGD cannot get out of the base versus all these summons all just continues getting forced in
Cuz yeah, that does sound pretty scary, especially when there's blade males out as you say if he blinks in overgrowth blade males
What do you do? He's gonna have 5,000 HP hitting you
This this triag's definitely I was not thinking it was gonna be this strong, but it does look and that's nice in
And he got it at a very good time in this game.
Malody, the supports in particular for Yandex have played this game quite beautifully.
Soxa, 6-1-8, the first pick, Coddle.
Yeah, I think one of the things that might have sort of held back the potential of the
Treyags is I feel like when it came out right, and everyone was doing it like a core, I mean
the offlane tree goes from like Echo, Axe build, and then they weren't winning games,
and it's like, ah, this is terrible, when in reality you've just got to play support
tree and slowly get the axe, you don't need to rush it, because whenever you do get it,
it's going to feel good anyway, you don't need to have the priority farm to still have
a good time with the axe.
You're super tanky and you have reduced cooldown, your ult goes out to 60 seconds, so you can
take every single teamfight, it is insanely strong.
And I hope I get to see him with a heart, because then he'll have like 1000 health.
Strength then.
Top lane, whisper.
Oh, it's a lot of damage for Whisper to take.
He's just dead.
It's way too much for the deal with him.
They kill him so, so quickly.
That's a big concern for LGD.
Losing their tie that easily.
Yeah, this is just completely controlling the map.
Yeah.
There's nowhere to step outside for a team.
He's coming up to 30k.
I said, well, this is classic Yandex.
They get the game into sort of this position,
and not a whole lot you can do.
Because I feel like we've obviously seen them do this a lot of time, but they haven't lost any of these games right where they get this huge lead.
Don't believe so, no.
No.
We've seen LGD turn some of them, but I don't know about what the mid-larg on a tide, right?
This does feel like they've kind of already hit their timings, and their timings just never hit.
The Andex is just way ahead of them on every single one of them, and they're progressing.
Well, the only hero that's progressing on the side of LGD into this later stage is Ikyuma, isn't it?
Yeah, the mid-largo look fun in the lane, but maybe in the menu
Just still not gonna be a big fan of the Largo even if it's in a different capacity than the offline. Yeah
So it just I feel like some of these players
It's just like you feel like you're limiting the capabilities right high lung. He's so flashy
I mean he gives up a pop jumping around and now he's just running around kind of a guitar hero
You know, you know, you know my point is that when you see these players play Largo, it's like
You know what, you won't see it again, especially on the invested 5 I imagine.
This could just be one of those tasks, you know what, never gonna do that again.
And they might still make a comeback, who knows?
High ground defense, they can get the ravages, if you can get refresher, always potential
because we've seen LGD turn things, the Yandex, they're just getting, they're getting so much
socks on another core.
They're farming literally every corner of the map, everything that's on the map they're
taking and they can't get punished the problem is LGD they cannot go outside and
hunt because there's just all three waves running into their faces every
single time in an Invis tree who's scouting them out 20 seconds in the
career will be back up so it'll get the re-release that was sniped so we'll have
the satanic on Yuma I guess we could say the goodness could be that Watson's
gonna hit critical mass at some point very early but he can switch items
around and you can still get a quite a bit of growth I mean isn't coming up the
same farm speed in that nature profit game the other day or is that it's
pretty close getting up I think he was at nine I didn't get the check but he was
at like nine hundred and sixty if I was not mistaken he's at an eighty year
ever yeah I sure looks very good yeah especially in Watson's hand yeah he is
absolutely master of the nature's profit carry it even though he's like three and
three right it's not like something too crazy how much he's getting it's like
he he's that farmed but it doesn't really matter that he's died a few times
Because he he's that man. He's pretty much with two items ahead. He's that far ahead. It doesn't matter if you make some mistake
He's still gonna be a big pop that perhaps it's like this tree and change right the fact you could just use your trains to scout
And then you just far me and getting bonus damage seems pretty pretty much human
Stepping pretty far out here
You're caught by the hex the other comes in he's caught in the middle of the wiggle shaman and be able to slide his way out of the
Sprout
It's a fair bit, they're having to take out the two of them.
Maladijou's back in the hexes there again, so Yuma will still fall.
I mean, LGD, they don't come out of that empty-handed, but still not getting the upper hand.
They'll lose a fourth as Tylen goes down, only Whisper gets out.
It wasn't a bad effort to fight back around the double ravage, but it's just a little
too little, a little too late.
Exactly.
And that was their all-in fight.
pretty much absolutely everything they spent all their gold for the fight the
satanic was purchased right before it too they get two of the cores but watching
it just free-hitting same thing for the two supports and I need to support
socks as a core now I know you know is to
let me out of take out what you said when they're perhaps move up the top yes
pretty much still a minute without the two cores whisper so brothers not up
They have enough damage without it?
They have to force him out of the spell.
He's gonna be fine for now.
Tylung's gonna keep on fighting back. He's gonna keep on super aggressively.
Look at the shot. Shit on T'malady. He'll hook the other guy from the run.
He has 5,000 health.
Look at him at the lick.
Look at the fiend's grip as well.
I'm so Watson. Have they got any damage to T'malady's Prophet that they do not?
T'malady's only good.
T'malady's fine and Malady, yeah, he's still half HP.
I'm half HP. I'll see whether the old buff is up.
It is like 2600 HP, so he's not dying.
And it's a time-long buyback loses all the progression. He was starting to make
They do hang on to the second rack
By style for you may get back in the game
So an any of 40k lead here for yandex and Watson's got 10k so can choose whatever he wants to go for here
The rabbit it does connect nicely on the two cores, but on the other side of the fight
Watson's just cleaning up. I do it was just a bit of an awkward trip out on the map that I think it was just
in an effort to try and find the power room, but it meant that Yuma was heading first.
The potential, as we saw here with the double ravages, you can only imagine if they, honestly,
if they're having a sentence to fight up and just wait and do it from the my grounds,
they might have actually been able to cook something up a little bit better.
As long as they can have Yuma in a better position, that would be very dangerous at the start of things there.
40 seconds until they'll have the double ravage.
Uh-oh again op talent has been hit not as op as it once was of course, but still pretty busted these trains do an insane amount of damage to it
Oh amp damage for Watson and a strong disbound after socks us
I'll try to keep track of him shock ring and dispelling perhaps ravage even
Or fiends group that's actually pretty insane that kind of hard counters the Baynax to you just shocker it
I think about that one. Someone's got to find the Kotlin in these fights. Yeah, I think
I think I think that's usually the case right we did see the way LGD addressed the
Kato in the earlier series and it was just all in jump him in the initial start of the
fights. The heroes just don't really have that concept this time around right last time
there was a timber a kez then all these mobility heroes to get to the back line this time it's
much more of a stagnant lineup. Not full minutes with the sages. We'll see if they want to
As we know though and as we know that yandex know they've got the luxury that they don't have to push
Nope, if I look at now, he's probably the guy I almost have my heart. Let me get it then I'll have 8,000 health
Unironically, I think that's exactly what's happening
Before we finish this game yeah Watson has he can still get to the 8 slot point
Yeah, let me get the moon shot
Yeah, and still have to buy back on top of it before we try and in this game
Yeah, because that'll give you-
Because why not?
They can't step outside.
They-
If they do, we saw what just happened, right?
They do get maybe two kill-up kills, but they do lose the fight drastically.
Can't explain this.
Pretty clean overall, missing a couple kills early, as we said, but overall...
The draft design is functioning.
Yeah.
And honestly...
It's kind of refreshing to see, right, the...
Drow first pick.
It gets answered.
You're not getting away with it.
Yeah.
Because so many times, teams have been getting away with it.
And they're showing here in the finals. If you want to pick Drow, we've prepared an answer.
Got to protect it better somehow.
And Chira, refreshing to see Monkey King not just lose lane, and to get some third.
We've regained so many that just completely lost the game, but he's played a very nice
Chira journey.
And yeah, supports it. You have to give a lot of credit right there. Mid lane kind of
situation that happened where Malady survived and they get those two big kills for Chira.
It was a long time ago, but that was a big point of recovery for Chira.
Treads coming in, they have to address them.
Hit text. As ages.
Prepare for a full catch.
I don't know how to have the nature's wrath.
Two of them. We've got commands down.
Pressure on multiple fronts. They have to glyph.
There's Treads as well top. There's Summix top also going.
This is when do you go for the double-rapage play?
Malady! He's in first.
He's gonna find them in the trees. The group will come out, but they're quickly looking to deal with the illusions of this game.
Come on with the five-out whisper, there's the Ravage!
Churijun is going to be separated from the rest of the team, allows them to shoot them out, and he takes down Churijun either once.
Churijun, the whisper's got the second round, he's watching in position, and you must drop all the Churijun is on top of him, you will try and force away, the stunts coming out, he's gone!
He'll have five-out, but whisper's gone for two minutes!
Churijun, he plays himself out with the heartburner, looks to stand his ground with the Wukong's command, you must shoot down the monkey king, the hex comes out, of course!
You must sprout it! He's dead!
James Aluba! Gigi is called Yandex!
We'll take this game one!
A really cool and insane recovery from Chira, playing super aggressive here in this last teamfight.
They split the fight beautifully.
Whisper dies in an instant before he can get the first ravages off, and then he jumps the backline.
He does catch the Cottle, but then his Drow is just getting eaten alive by the Wolf.
Yandex, I think this design of the draft did look super good with the way that they wanted to play versus this teamfight draft.
They just dodge them until they felt like they were comfortable enough with these items, and then they can just force the issue here.
Yeah, they really didn't get sent a very clear message of,
You gotta be more careful if you want to pick the Drow.
Yeah, sure you might have been getting away with it before, like many other teams were.
You know, picking it as openly as they were.
But Yandex showing, they absolutely have a plan when it comes to playing against a Drow Ranger lineup.
And the Largo, right?
It's just a little different, it looked cute in the lane.
It did.
But outside of that, it kind of fell off pretty hard.
We didn't see a lot from Thailand.
It was a tough, tough game from on the mid-large.
So I'm sure we'll see him on something else in the next game.
Game one, Yandex coming in hot.
And I have stolen DM for a sweet moment to talk to you.
The draw, is the like and the answer?
Is that what you were picking it for?
I think it's kind of good because it's a fast hero who can leash her
and it can take areas and it can like block entrance with wolves.
So I think it's a good solid answer, and also it's good in the robane, which is like the signature hero, so yeah.
Yeah, it did look really good. I was wondering if you guys were aiming to like push early with this nature's lichen,
or if you were just planning to outscale them by picking three carries?
I think our heroes are good at doing both, but the enemies were very disciplined, they were like playing defensively,
so rushing into high ground would be a big mistake, so we didn't.
Yeah, I was wondering, it did obviously extend quite a bit. What was the hardest part of being able to push that high ground?
I think the hardest part was to get a good plan, but eventually we said like we can go to site. I went on top, I got to site, they were fighting bottom, then after taking site I reached the bottom already.
They were sitting on draw and when hero is near her, sure, Rulty is not working, so it's like she's having much less damage. It was good.
And that was our excellent speed interview. Go prepare for the next game, go go go, thank you DM!
A lot of information given from DM, the fact that they're in the midst of that grand final,
but to get to win game one, give out a lot of information like that. It really helps at least
my analysts. I know they were struggling. Break this one down. I'm only joking. I'm only joking.
What blew my mind the most was the Largo Monkey King, because you said at worst, Quinn,
it was a draw for Monkey King. Yeah, it was worse. Yeah, I think he messed up. I don't know if he's
he's ever played this lane. He has not. I also don't know if he's thought about the
fact that it purges the whatever it's called J-Doo because he didn't play like he knew.
So I'm not sure. Maybe it was a little bit of a whoopsy but he played great in the game
despite some of the shenanigans early on. It's kind of like as if they played like they
played without a midlaner at least for a while because you know when this year doesn't win
his lane he didn't really do that much in his early moves which is why it was very important
that his team had a good game. I think Sox had an early game they got like some double
kill top, he goes bottom later, he had a banger off the game because yeah when you last pick
your mid hero, this is not what you expect, it's kind of illegal to lose in the counter
pick matchup and die.
It kind of helped for CJ, even though he lost the lane, the mentality of this game was very
clear, even DM just said it in the interview, right?
The hero is naturally shot off the waves, monkey king was connecting with the tree who
was going very aggressive or you had Watson's E peeing in, there was a couple of early moves
from Yandex that didn't connect, but you could see the mentality that they wanted to
to apply, which was forward aggression.
And for LGD, let's be honest, they didn't really
do anything in this game.
Largo shoved the wave, Tidebot and AgT shoved the wave.
Might hit a ravage here or there,
but I think the pressure they applied on you
in the early game constantly ganking him just really
stopped LGD from really ever kind of dictating this game at all.
Yeah, I think this, I agree.
I think it felt a little lifeless.
To me, this felt, chokes me a little strong,
but they definitely played a little shaky, a little scared.
And I think it's because of the ground fouls.
Because to be honest, they took a couple of towers
and then they kind of just sat around on their laurels
and waited for Yannex to farm a lead.
And they weren't really even really dying.
It was just the gold leads slowly going up
because they're farming with like five heroes on Yannex
all over the map.
Well, you just kind of clumped sitting together
and eventually you just kind of lose
because you're down a million gold.
I can see maybe some logic behind the Largo.
If Whisper was playing his Batriders, the Timbersaws,
like where you could see this like partnership
of mid to off-flame where it's like the mid croaks up
the off-flame and you keep running down your opponent,
you're fighting, but putting the mid-Lago when you already have the Tides, they both
do the same role in the draft, so then you're hitting the same problems at the same minute
mark, you're not able to help each other's weakness or maybe the timings that don't
connect, it just felt a little oaky compared to other lineups with OG, like they're killers,
they're meant to break the game, they just did none of that.
Yeah, and their heroes, they just don't really make it that easy, like you just said, Tide
and Lago are kind of slow, they rely on all these other things, so when you look at Yandex,
I think what a lot of this series will be about and what this game about is a lot of like annoying and dirty ghost push
Like if you look at the map, they've called who's pushing waves
There's trians there's like and monkey King is jumping around you see everyone with the tree and chart as well
So I think just going into the next game if you're LGD you should be looking at heroes that help you with the map
I think Bane actually you need to lower the direction of the hero if like it and nature's are still in the pool
Maybe even heroes like naga sirens could come on, you know because you need to be ready for this Yandex
They've done this multiple games on this tournament and they that's how they won this game
just now it's like so freely and so easy. A lot of freedom that comes from LGD's side
right and not in this draft about how they play and how they've won games is a lot of
different players being on what feels like their comforts not so much what a meta comforts
like yes whisper cam played the tide that isn't the question we're having but is it
something that he enjoys currently in the meta or is it just it was good for the game
we wanted to put him on it it was only really the tie-lung that was playing something a
little bit more out of the box and I would have liked to see LGD still continue a bit
more of the flair in the grand finals.
I think if Whisper was untied, then like Tylong needs to be on like the embers, the storms,
the pucks.
The heroes that want to make crazy shit happen because then Whisper, like I love the fact
that Whisper was going for like the axe rush, like the reason why the game felt like it
had maybe a moment for LGD was he rushed ag that 21 minutes to go for Roshan, like even
under the map pressure that Yandex was starting to apply, LGD was thinking how do we still
stamp our authority in the game, pick up the ages, but the problem is the waves got shoved
So quickly they had no response and it was because they just have this like discrepancy and what their cores are meant to be doing at the
Game they just weren't ready for how much like shove at the annex was applying. Yeah, it's honestly a very impressive
Strategic approach from the index. I think they they they thought about like hey, how does LGD play? They're aggressive
They're crazy running you we're gonna pick ghost bush in just a general sense right?
They start off the draft with callable before they really see very much at all
And I think that lens leans in that direction because this to me is not just that this game counterpick
It's an LGD counter pick specifically because I think it's good against them and like you said they weren't on comfort heroes
I totally agree and I think they've forced them on to those intentionally
I don't think it's happenstance that LGD ends up on a bunch of random heroes and not comfortable on I think it's the way the draft
Has progressed because I think Yennex did amazing prep like this
I think LGD needs to bounce back in a major way especially in the draft because I think when you look back at this game
They got outplay. Yeah, I think that like in nature. It's probably just a big problem
Like once it gets like minute 19 and they have the helm of dominator was like the big black dragon
It's here. Look at the minimap. They're at the tier 3. They're teeping back to grip it.
Look at the entire map. Bottom, there's Lycan farming.
There's so many resources you have to put in, and your heroes aren't good at this.
It's just 20 or 30 seconds later now, they get to freely move on T1 because the game,
it was still semi-even. I think they were only up like 1k gold, but after this,
it's 3k, then they make another move. It's 4, it's 5, it's 6, and none of the heroes really
ever get better at dealing with it. Yeah, it's also a really cool counter pick
to the draw. We've seen it in past patches where draw was the third carry. Yeah, sure.
But it's always an interest profit, but he also makes moves and plays fast on you.
So, I mean, you can see it Watson, he ganked this draw like a million times in the early game.
He was all over the place and making up, I think, for a lot of CJ's weaknesses in this game,
where he feeds a couple of times, Wathens has no problem. I'm going to make the moves for you
and get us through that early period of the game. So, it massive cool us to him because I think he
pulled a lot of weight that potentially CJ was intended to if you look at the draft.
I mean, that is just the value of an interest profit and why I think it is just going to become
such an important hero in this game, in this grand final, sorry. I think what's in it is reminding
everyone how important it is, but you're talking about like the dragon push, I feel like the vision
in this game was hilarious. Like the fact that Malady and Prius smoked, they like moved in and
just looked at the three radiant wards on the dire side of the map. At 20 minutes, when have you
seen three observers this deep into the base? They basically, they subscribed to the six minutes
after, they had no other wards on the map. I think they placed one at the bottom roshan,
but they were using the couriers and the path they're going to kind of give pseudo vision. If you
If you see the career go, but okay, that guy's there.
He might be twin getting there.
If they go mid, so they were using such deep vision.
Of course, the tree has shot to kind of complement this,
but because of how much matchup they have,
it was kind of cool that in a rare scenario,
this vision kind of made sense.
In other games, you're just hard grating,
but this time it kind of worked.
It's like semi-map hack.
Then there's walls running around,
there's trees running on.
And I think at the same time,
it's also very cool what Yandex did.
When you have Nature's Prophet and Lycan who play into Tide,
it's very hard to team fight into the Tide Hunter.
But they're just like kind of ignoring him going elsewhere
because Tide in nature,
It's a good pick for LGD. Yeah, absolutely, but the hero is still very slow.
You can like outmaneuve him on the map and they did that.
There are all the things that Yannick did really well later in the game,
but there were still a couple of blunders in the earlier part.
And so again, if we see LGD continue the tempo of lanes and coming out of that,
then we could have been seeing a different song because more importantly,
yeah, some rotations that came out as well, the mid-match up,
there just seemed to be so many things that really favored LGD on Pable.
I think like this should not happen, right? Like Kardo Lichen is not supposed to double kill a drawbane
It's like there's also smaller things like this that go into it
I mean, I think sure, you know, that's the mid matchup with like the Largo monkey king
I don't think you should die in that lane either like so sure you haven't played the matchup
But you're counter picking the Largo so going 24 monkey king and dying
It's not the one I have one request for the grand finals
Can we just not see Largo anymore like the lure bracket was to
I'm not going to be able to
get to the end of the game. Can
we not have logo in this grand
finals anymore? Please. Thank
you. I'm sure both literally
100% hurt us because I am
bored of watching logo lose.
Thank you. I'm sure both teams
hurt us and I don't want to
look behind this kind of big
spot. He's actually smiling. See
no more logo. Thank you. This
is the benefit of course
Blastland seven. We have the
teams right next hearing every
Okay, I'm sure it makes sense, but no, it's like, it's uninspiring, I understand that
Tylong, he has this hero pool, it's not even Tylong actually, it's just to be very clear,
it's not him, it's the hero.
It's every role, whether it's mid, off-lane or support.
It's like, crit, grief on it, on four position, we've had Tylong on the mid lane, we've had
Whisper on the off-lane, we have Miro on the off-lane, like the hero just, it feels like
it's lost its power spike of like dominating lane it was in, people understand it, they
know the limits, and we're not seeing like the cops, the pangos, these partnerships that
make the hero feel a bit more like, oh yeah, explosive. It's just there. And if it's just
a hero that exists in the draft, I want many other heroes in place of it that provide like
clear power spikes and timings to play. And because Largo, he just kind of does
the entire time. He never just takes over a game.
I do want more info from you, Quinn, because you said that you don't think it's supposed to go this
bad for Monkey that he missed played a little bit. But I want to know where exactly, like, when we
watch it back, or when you think back on it, where are those misplays coming from the Monkey King?
Why is it that Largo did have such a good lane despite what you feel should not have been that heavy favorite?
I think a lot of it goes down to the small things. It's its individual CS, its individual clicks
It's really small mistakes. The fact that he's this low HP at the start of the game is already a problem
That means stuff has gone wrong prior to that. It means you've miss aggroed or you've taken bad trades
All these little things that add up and it's easy to mess that stuff up, especially at the start of the
the start of the grand final can be a little bit jittery, but honestly kudos to Tai-Lung
Yeah, and I think he deserves his flowers because he's solo killed more players
I think in this tournament so far than I think anyone else in mid
He's he's been pretty locked in and so I think if you're going at the next game
Yes, CJ played a great mid game
But you can't have this happen again, especially in a game where you know
Tai-Lung is not playing a ridiculous terrible mid hero and he's playing something real that he can you know take over the game on I think
like, Tai-Wang should be in a position of power in this series because he showed already
that the grand final starts solo kill in a weird ever-loving matchup.
Like that is impressive and I think you want to be able to carry that forward and actually
have impact after you get the solo kill.
It should mean something and not just be sort of a limp to your death kind of loss.
If you removed player names then and we redid this player, this hero matchup, what would
you give it?
Maybe a 50-50?
It should be the monkey favorite, no?
Nah, I think it's probably roughly 50-50 I'd say.
With some variants.
Well, the reason why I ask is because I know that you guys like to play a game of 50-50.
In fact, they did that earlier.
Was it yesterday? I believe it was yesterday.
I hope so.
And enjoy some grand finals content.
Not much.
Two in a one episode of 50-50 split rock, paper, scissors.
All right, there we go.
Quinn gets to go first.
Let's check out his technique.
Yeah.
Form it out.
I think you should go a bit faster.
You should shake it harder.
That's an early stop, dude.
Come on, man up a little bit, you fucking jungler.
Small Chungus right now?
This is ultra small Chungus behavior.
The smallest Chungus behavior.
Keep looking at the camera.
That helps.
My Chungus.
He's committed.
He's committed.
Oh, it's not even close.
Oh, my God.
What the hell?
This can is infinite.
Oh, wait.
It's full.
Okay, you're over.
This can is like an infinite.
What is wrong with this can?
Wait, wait, wait.
Now Kezzy knows how much liquid is in the can.
He knows where to stop on the cup.
Don't look.
Don't look.
Quinn, hide your glasses.
Hide them.
Are these the same drinks?
Why is it so yellow?
I peed in this, actually.
Are you pleased to have formed me?
I think this might be Sun's fans.
Well, this might have been too much.
That was too much, I'm trying this.
Let me balance it on my knee.
Is that helpful?
Yeah, this is good, this is good.
I've done all of these, I'm not caring anymore.
Let's shake the last shit out.
Congrats, you've got to buy another one.
Wow, this is pretty good.
That's pretty close.
This is much worse.
I think this is a big win for Sun's fans' piss.
Let's go!
One point!
Welcome back to round two.
We have Squaggetto.
We're breaking the shit in half and I'm gonna win.
I'm gonna try to give him a chance.
I'm gonna go gangster style on this weekend. What does that mean? Gonna hold this properly. Oh
Okay, that was a break. I didn't expect it
It was kind of gangster. I will say this is very difficult to
Cheating. Yeah, but you cheated first. You can't even read the scale. It's right. Let go of it
I can't they're gonna roll off. However. You let go is what you end up. Are you serious say that before I let go?
No nine point seven. This isn't ounces. What the fuck's happening? They're in two different measurements
Okay, this one's 255, this one...
I'm just moving them from here.
I saw a 119.
I lost at least 20 grand. Oh, whatever.
That's good. A lot of people love losing weight.
This is taking too long.
I think it's a good upside down.
I'm doing it like this, and there's no way out of here.
You must place it down.
It's like an expanding.
Yeah, I thought...
Oh, really?
Wow, really? Crazy.
250.
If you don't pick off, I need to dump some weight.
What the...
What's this sighting? How to do it?
I say it's 380 and that's not a hundred and sixty.
What happened?
Due to unforeseen events, we're going to call this one a draw.
Excuse me?
And we're back for round three.
We have with us two pieces of garlic, I think.
We have two pieces of ginger.
How do you feel about that?
I have the worst piece.
Like, why is it going everywhere?
This is so different.
Like, what is that?
People don't like it.
This is tough because weight-wise, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I need a small chungus.
I think I'm going to lock it in here.
Oh, this is bad.
It's going to slicing it up.
Oh, that's bad.
I think this is pathetic.
I think this looks like it's very well balanced.
This is pathetic.
Oh!
Six seven!
Six seven!
I'm a fucking genius.
If this is six seven, you guys will have to lose it, OK?
Oh, man.
Jesus Christ, that sucked.
Oh, that's bad.
Get out of the way.
Oh, you're a piece, all right.
I think I might have done the worst.
Oh, this guy was fine.
What?
What the?
How could me?
27 to 51.
That's worse than I did.
Take a bite.
Want the garlic?
Yeah, I like them.
Take a bite.
Take a bite, please.
Okay.
The garlic.
Cheers, really good.
Well, the numbers speak for themselves.
It looks like our grand winner of the 50-50 split, this round, is Kaluuuu!
This is awesome.
I love garlic.
I genuinely think the Logo Monkey King bitmatchup was way better weighted than whatever you guys
We're trying to do with the ginger in round that was like the way through the segment. We apologize
So don't you got to break up the seriousness of draws in the pressure of a grand final to you a little bit of joy like that
Let me just confirm real quick. What were you eating and cutting in half at the very end?
Oh, it's ginger. Okay, just making sure that was for the viewership. Okay. It was the viewership. Yeah
Yeah, the viewership will now go
Garlic everyone just closed the tab and then put back up because they realized it's of course ginger
So thank you. Well, we had some fun in here, but of course the teams had a much more serious conversation
Especially on the side of LGD because for them they're now one game down in a best of five grand finals
They've got to think about what needs to happen going forward
What are they gonna try and get their hands on because again a big pivotal foundational pieces of some of their wins over the last few days?
Have relied on that that rider on that viper and right now
It seems all too easy for yandex to be able to draft against LGD and put them on something that isn't as strong
I mean definitely in a BO5 and you could just feel it like they played this game
And they're gonna talk about what this game felt like to them
And I'm pretty sure that after 20 minutes they feel somewhat helpless playing against what Yankees have
So you're gonna be talking about the overall the map play what heroes do you want what heroes do you want to sub out?
Because that should be the main point of their discussion. It also needs to be careful with LGD
This is like a slippery slope right the idea like you're not banning
Loan Druid or picking in the first phase you're allowing Yankees to play a player
You're taking the draw yourself and you're getting beaten by strategies like you're banning and dying off lane that was set
Yeah, yet to see and it's do this clearly the life of a nature's profit
So some of the core concepts that LGD have used to get here are now kind of being unraveled a little bit
So they need to make sure that when they enter the second drafts, but they are very confident and I'm not gonna start second guessing themselves
I'm not sure if the the safe lane duo is like
Exhausted. No, this is all chill. Yeah
Chill maxed. Yeah, this is ultra chill maxing. There's a paper in front of his face. No, that's a too bright
He doesn't I actually so you didn't have to look at you. Yeah, that's
Number two today, that's like a nuclear
I'm sorry. I know I know that is I do a fault. Let's focus back up now back to you
All right
Well, then we could talk about yandex we've already said that yeah
They called that the boss bluff of the lone druid whether there really is a legs to LGD potentially playing that one for themselves
Or what that kind of would possibly be towards it
But at the end of the day, we've got to figure out who is going to be having first pick for the next draft
because that is going to be a massive, massive pivot in First Base Bands.
Yeah, I think a lot, I agree with T. I think a lot just comes down to comfort.
I think you just want heroes that you're comfortable on and confident on and you just play your normal Dota and not
don't get sucked into this weird mess of reacting to YannX, but play what you want to play on LGD.
Yeah, I mean, also don't get baited into like scenarios where like, if Batrider is finally available,
let's say you instantly snipe it, but then there's like, there's so many other little plays and counters into it.
So you need to just kind of like, no, just take small steps in the draft.
Like don't rush into a concept, kind of keep your draft a bit more open.
Even though I do want to see Batrider, just prepare the foundation for the hero
if you are to be given it.
No, I agree. I think it's important that you stick to what you want.
You don't want to like do a full swap around of what is good for you,
but just slightly adjust to what Yannix just showed you
and just be ready in like the mid game that you have better answers for it.
Because last game, it was very difficult.
It's one step at a time, one game at a time,
and it's still very possible for LGD to be able to bring it back for themselves.
They've done it many times before in Best of Threes,
but are they going to be able to do it game number two in our Best of Five?
It's not going to happen. It's
definitely doesn't really come as
a surprise when we see our draft
that Yandex is going to have
first pick with a lot of our
priority changes happening
between games. It is
inevitable that we see that
change up. And so when we look
towards first phase bands, it's
still directed towards the
Husker and the bat writer on
the side of Yandex this time
around the LGD feeling that the
for the game number one, but they go, actually, we need to stay strong and have a
belief of how hard that hero is to deal with.
Yeah, I also really like the Nature's Prophet band, I think.
I mean, only Yannick's been playing this hero, but it's looked really, really scary.
And I think it's super good against the way LGD plays.
And so I think there's a smart band saying, sure, maybe we can answer it, but
just the hero just functions too well against us.
So we don't want to touch it for right now.
It's similar with the Kato.
I think the hero, Caudal just changes the way the game is played.
You know, you can either like ball up, but he's also very annoying if you don't have to ball up.
He is a good map hero too. He enables other people, he pushes waves,
and yeah, I think any switch up at the moment, as long as LGD feel good about it, it's good for them.
Like Loundred, Shadaphine, Drow, Kez, I think they're the big four that you just have to look towards in this BAM position.
I do take away the Lone Druid so there's not going to be this weird LGD compete Lone Druid scenario. You don't want to do that.
I will say Yannix have not really super prioritized the Drow so it's a possibility that they give it to LGD again.
But this time there's no niche profit for later in the line so maybe some of their answers are not quite as prevalent they could ban Lycan afterwards.
So I'm curious to see if they take Drow or if they've got another plan to deal with it.
deal with it. Also Beastmaster is now available for the first time in a long time. I feel like
both of these teams, due to DM for Yandex and then Tylong and Whisper for LGD, it kind of has
become quite a default hero pick for either if available. There's quite a lot of options for
both teams to fight over. They're actually going to manage. Oh, I don't know if you should be doing
that. I thought they were going for maybe a potential, you know, if Yandex go for the Angry Bird,
which is possible that they would like maybe trade it for the draw, but they obviously they have a different idea I
Think ideally for Ogedes like you want like Yandex pick as you take Beastmaster flex people Beastmaster see into the drafting
That's like the safest and most stable
Draft like kind of pattern for them to play down
Yeah, this drought band feels a little scared to me
They took a while on it and I just don't think it's hero Yandex likes as much as LgD
LgD does now maybe they were just banning it because they lost with it and they don't want to think about it
Which is fair, but at the same time it's not particularly targeted toward the index and so to me it feels a little bit more like
Whatever it's been
Yeah, I can see that. I mean the the major to the power line is something they just played against
But yeah, next we'll go with the melody tree ends cool
This this hero especially in the last couple days just has looked incredibly strong like both
It's laning but also just like the mid game right the overall team fight you get the ingredient shaman later
You go for the eggs you go for the blink that it just looks good
you see so much on the map and you give everyone like living armor which just means everyone's
landing is even better. I love the fact that people finally kind of discovered how to give life
to the middle late game because of the acts that you're talking about. Like the the idea of tree
pressing oh and just standing still or walking in like just a vision he applies. But LGD they get
their hands on the early whisper Timbersaw to play into it. This is not the same as the last pick
Timbersaw they had though. You have not seen the carry yet that means the TA or Shadow fiend.
Yeah, one of these guys is coming down the pipeline and you were not gonna free lane and you're not gonna free game matchups either
So in the prior game as every minute that passed I got more likely that LG would win that is not faded for this game
So just because it's timberverse tree it is not that's not all she wrote
I mean, it's like if they really wanted to be kind of quirky in the draft
It could be ban one pick the other out of phase
But then your draft is very clear and what it's gonna be doing like you're not hiding anything
Probably the ban TA pick SF is the most stable of the of the options
I would also be okay if you just ban Asif and like you you play into the TA and in my mind is also okay
I mean Asif is a great hero. So if you want to go back to backcourt
I I do think you can but I'm also just okay if you ban one you take like a position four out of the phase and
You're just pretty happy and you keep it a bit more casual
That would be then like the hoodwinker approach right like banners if they could win things that you you have to push back
Versus the TA you have maybe even some kill threat when Tim that has six
You don't need to be that volatile in draft
Yeah, I think it's definitely better to leave the TA than Shadowfiend, but Watson has not lost on his TA yet.
It's very powerful in all the games. He's clutched up and Geega carried some games that were not easy games.
So it's the kind of hero that he would love to play in a final especially because it's just like he can play with his eyes closed.
He's done it so many times, it's like nothing. So he will play it to the fullest of his potential.
at least if you're like if you play timber you care a bit more about SF so I
think it's just like if you want to secure your game a little bit more than
that should be the band you look towards but I think if you're looking more like
player comfort then it's absolutely the TA band that you would shoot out here.
This Bane band I think is also really cool because they don't care about it
last game right they're saying you can take it because they have more options
to split the map and push lanes. Yeah all this crap but this game they've got
tree and potentially they want something different so they're like okay now this
game we think Bane is a problem. It also pairs with Timber. You've got the stun plus the damage.
I like that they're, it's an active thought from each game. Does Bane matter in this game? Not
in a general sense. It's also the fact that like for Yandex, if you want DM to be able to take like
a Doom for example, right, to try and threaten the Whisper, you want to make sure, so the Whisper
Timber saw, you kind of want him to have that good lane. And Bane is one of the strongest fives that
bring in life to the lane, enabling your carry to game position to do the damage. So it does make
sense. Well they're good for something completely different. Which is interesting, so okay,
so they're protecting it in like a completely different way. Like they're just going for
okay we're taking the SF and we're thinking that the enigma is the one counter pick you
would go for against it. I mean you're getting TA'd for sure. TA's good at getting Shadow
Fiend. Yes, very. So that will I think very very likely be picked. And how is TA against
It's good. Very good.
No negatives so far then.
No, I don't really think so.
The question is, what are you going to laning in Shadowfiend?
We've seen that hero be really dominant in lane, and that's still undecided.
So there's potential that LG can craft a really strong safe lane.
It's hard to approach, but I think Yennex is...
I don't think they're sad about the Shadowfiend's deal.
It's not like, ah, rats, we wanted that. It's like, okay.
Yeah, especially because you still get one of the few that you want.
Most of the time, any of the range heroes are very nice.
We talked about Watson's TA for good reason.
for good reason. It's like, it's his best hero. So it doesn't really speak much against it.
I wouldn't be opposed to just saying like, yeah, if they got the team here, just go with like, the group because of like Saksa, if you really wanted to, just, you don't need to really show anything. Hold your position, know that the LGD has to kind of reveal their supports, because the supports will change how the SF plays his lane.
lane. If you have kill threat then you're gonna play on razors and chase down the lane.
If I kind of want to see Saxes hero here, you can pick the snap that they've been flexing as well,
but I don't know, I think into SF and timber. Rubik's really nice. Have the lift back with the
shard, some damage reduction in the earlier kind of poking fights that you have. They have some
pretty cool freedom. Oh they do just slap in the dune here. Okay. Interesting that they go for the
double core. Yeah, like I wanted to see the doom but I was expecting to see it like, you know,
the next pick in the phase, not right here.
Doom is also a very mixed bag against Shadowfiend.
Historically, Shadowfiend is really good against Doom
because you're kind of a low armor hero.
You're quite greedy and you're bad from behind.
So Shadowfiend obviously is going to reduce your armor
and also do well against you in lane.
So it's kind of good against all things Doom is bad against,
but it has changed in recent history
because he's just really good at killing people in lane.
So maybe they're looking for some high kill threat lane,
some Doom plus whatever dude,
and they're going to like,
all right, we're here to fight, not chill.
Okay, so they're gonna go for Clock. I was thinking before, like if I looked at these
three heroes from Yennex, I would really have loved like a Phoenix pick, but maybe it's
also just not very much overall like up their alley. I think when you look it's now, you
know, likely like a KJ Clockwork, you lane with the SF, you get yourself some, you get
yourself a range four. You do see like at least double core, so I wonder if there's
like a bit more of like the spicy picks as opposed to, you know, the normal, the hood
wing or the snap. It could be an argument that LGD, the lane is kind of weak. I was
like bring back that Grim Shriker. I don't think the lane is strong enough to fight
short. Ink swelling Timber is kind of cool, but yeah. No, just some cheap spell. Yeah,
you want that. Oh, let's go. Maybe. Yeah. Okay. I wonder if it has much to do. So obviously
The hero's laning is decent, but Timba Rasta is a bit weird, because they can both be semi-slow.
I think line is a good alternative.
The reason that I see for Shaman potentially is, I think getting yourself a better mid-game
and potentially taking the ages away from TA, but also getting it yourself against Doom is nice.
So maybe like Rasta wants to progress the map and get Rosh is a bigger argument for them.
Yeah, and LGD are the type of team that they look at some script that they've already constructed
for their heroes, and that's exactly the logic I'm seeing as well for the Shaman.
It's like you just want to give you SF ages walk down lane. He has like man to plus one. All right. Good to go
But the yandex still the ruby for saxa looks very chill stealing hex or shackles from a shaman
It's very simple some lane secure for doom even sending the cogs on clock
I don't think yandex are too threatened by LGD's picks
I think you just have to respect the very clear timings that they are going to be moving towards be ready at 20 minutes
Can test the Roshan?
I thought allow them to get these heroes into the game and they might also just lock in the CJ zero
Yeah, it's uh
I mean the yanks of scaling is already kind of locked in these heroes. They
They scale very very well against LGD heroes you look at clock and shaman
It's the only real heroes they have that are gonna make moves or get in there
And you've got a lot of ways to reset and cut you've got trap vision you've got tree like sort of counter push
you've got tornado you've got all kinds of crap and
And they just have great game matches. Invoker's good against Timbersaw and SF.
TA is good against SF and Timbersaw.
Doom is really good against Timbersaw and SF is two-sided.
Like, you look at these core matchups on just that basis,
I would much rather be Yannick right now.
It's very true.
There is still another core though to come out from LGD,
which could potentially fill in a lot of those worries that you have.
Be able to at least shut down the Invoker so it feels a little less threatening from the mid lane.
Yeah, at least it also comes from the player that we were asking to step up more into the series, right?
We know that Tylong can be, you know, a massive X-Factor for LGD, put on the lago, didn't do so much.
But this time around, we've last picked the draft scene, the evoker, the style of game.
I think Yandex's bands are very, very good, both Beast and Puck can kind of connect what LGD has.
You do want to have that kind of very simple playmaker to make shit happen on the map.
Yeah, I mean like even Rasta, like I think there's so many like small things about TA that are annoying to play against like
Rasta to me does not really enjoy this matchup
Like even just a trap later if you have the shard you just boop boop silence see you later
Like there's no shackle so there's a lot of the other things that you're gonna have to really nail with the hero
And I mean I just like this and walker pick a lot CJ has played it a lot
I think the supports early on sure like look and semi move mid
But until they have hookshot there is no real like threat on this guy
Part of me is worried that it will be like a last pick Viper for Tylong for just the concepts of this like playbook
They were talking about like have the shard on the Viper
He'll buy it this time a lot earlier into the game throw it with the shard and progress the map
SF slots behind like a little like debuffs and lockdown and little layering that you confer into each other
I don't know if I'm excited by the prospect but
Part of me is concerned that it could be the
They could if he plays it better they could run back the snee boar
or for Tylong.
Sniper.
Ewww.
Yeah, he's called it at the whole event, as you know.
I've called a Sniper.
Yeah.
I don't know if I believe in their Sniper.
Me neither, but then I think about it.
But what about as a hero as a hull?
Yay, we're a bit.
My worry is, when you have double turret, I think Shadowfiend Sniper can be a little dicey together.
There's a war where maybe Shadowfiend goes magic build, and it's a little more acceptable.
And I could potentially see it then.
I could also just see a casual Embered Barrow.
Probably.
I think that makes the most sense what happened to like mid brood like you know back in the day
There's used to be some unplayable matchup. I don't even know if he plays it
But base more like overall like this doesn't yeah, it's used to be like the you know the Husker versus Mealy matchup
It's similar. I think what Xord and Volker is to brood obviously no one does it there must be some sort of reason or just
Talon plays it in his short competitive career. How'd you have to play a competitive game? Yeah, but I
I thought some of these heroes should be getting some
Some reps in maybe not in this grand finals, but it's a cool suggestion
I genuinely think if he played it it would be really good if he was jelly worms he would pick it here
See yo hey, don't forget his tradition in the company
Then ember probably just makes the most sense no like yeah, I think so I would be my my I mean it gives you some nice catch
I think you want your course have some synergy not just your sups. Oh interesting
This is a similar boat
But I do think it's scaling. It's invoker is kind of dicey. You get kind of very easily a lot of the ice wall cold snap
You can purge sprint. There's a lot of tools there that are pretty good. So it's a lot about tempo
So there's definitely good against invoker in lane. You just have better armor and damage
It's a matter of can you actually push that because I think
Yannex if it gets to 20 30 minutes and they're even footing then I'm there very happy
I think it's just a vision that Yannex has like the tree the TA the fortress the map play everything
they use in game 1 to win, they have the same elements and same resources available at their
hands to exploit LGD's positioning. And it's even harder I think for LGD in this game because
like their positioning is clear. SF will walk down the lane or like you'll have Slardar
Shamans in his smoke but if they don't get their initiation and they're on the ward you
just dodge them. So I think it's very clear what LGD needs to do and they have to overcome
the immense map play that Yannix will be bringing to this game.
Yeah, so while I do prefer like the Yannix draft overall, I think there's a lot of gameplay
Just like in the other game, you know, where there's a tide against a like in nature's profit.
You know, it's a good pick, but there's counterplay.
I think, you know, Yandex, they've got the scale. They're very strong laders.
And Volker, it's TA, it's Doom.
But all these heroes, again, they are very slow.
They want to hold their own areas. They don't want to look at each other.
You know, they want to stay in their stuff, get their levels going, get their time.
So if you're LGD, that's what I would, you know, I would want to abuse that.
If I'm them in this draft, try to get the first ages.
You have SF, you have Slaughter.
Because if you don't, yeah, I'm not loving their chances later.
I want Tormentors, I want Roshans, I want Tier 2s being taken like 25, I want the first Roshan, even maybe threatening Tier 3s, I want that level of aggression, we have seen it kind of happen before in other drafts and other kind of teams, and I'm sure OGD can do it, but if that ever gets thwarted, then yeah, I think the Andex is going to be very happy being able to kind of just scale into the game.
I can see what you mean, though, that there's definitely a window where they can push the tempo like it in poker
Doom TA are very, very slow course if you're looking at these heroes
You're right that none of them want to help anyone else, right?
They're all in there
They're all in their zone and I think these are these are good points and this is what LGD can play for and realistically
They actually can win this game like there is it's not just like that's help was a dada dada like they genuinely can win
It just requires a level of execution that wasn't their last game
And so I'm looking at them saying you got to bring more it might not have been there in game one
but it's definitely been there this tournament. We know that they can hit it. They have a lot of
objective taking ability in their lineup, so it looks good for the side of LGD. But overall,
there still is that slight favor towards Yandex. And I know right now, Raior is standing beside
with the genius behind such a solid draft of Yandex. Yes, I'm here with Axel. Thank you very
much for taking this. I'm curious, when you do these drops, do you feel like you're getting out
ahead of the opponent, or do you feel like you're both kind of getting what you want?
I mean, sometimes, like first map, I think we were ahead,
I'd indulge in, but this time I don't think so.
It's like 50-50, I would say, and they have upper head in order to game, so yeah, it depends on game.
So, in this draft, where it's more 50-50, who is your most important hero, your win condition?
I don't think our win condition is on specific hero, I think it's distributed between all of them,
And I would say it's more about pressure points, what they have, and us dealing with it.
And they have quite few of these games, so it's going to be not the easy task.
Okay, so for the viewers at home, what are we looking out for? What's the most important part?
The early game, the mid game, the runes, what are we looking at?
We're looking at Sardar first of all, how he's going to do, how good his talent on this hero, and how, yeah, pretty much on him.
Alright, looking forward to the next signed game. Thank you very much and good luck.
Thank you.
Well, there we go indeed. So the early game is going to be interesting, right?
So it seems to be the part of the game where, you know, Axel says that there might be some struggles here against LGD.
Would you agree? Do you think that is indeed where LGD is going to try and hit Yandex the hardest with this draft here in game 2?
Absolutely. Looking for that tempo.
Yeah, man. So there's, you know, there's Slada last pickers who are specifically pointing towards us.
You know, we're going to be watching Thailand. Didn't get to do a lot on his lago last game.
This game on the slide, I will see what he can do, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for game two!
Here we go, so...
Changeups indeed add some relative new heroes, or rare ones are very...
We're getting Theolical coming in with the shaman!
a support that's kind of been not looked towards in most of these games.
No, it starts to, it's been started just really fall off in terms of just not
being able to use its abilities that great. And also the concern really is that
if you can get Rubik versus it, it's just a better shaman in almost all stages of the game too.
So that is why they accelerated it. We kind of thought this Rubik would come even earlier,
me and you, when we were talking backstage. So Soxa, a lot of really good spells to steal.
And yeah, I think a lot of this game, I'm going to be looking at Tylung and with Tempo,
he's going to be able to set on this because overall, I just want to see speed.
I want to see pacing from LGD because if it does get too slow
There's a pretty greedy lineup from Yandex and if it gets to those points. This lineup is terrifying
So let's see if LGD can hit Yandex hard in the early game in this game too
But she of course by the official light prediction market Blastland poly market
Already both teams smoked up looking for some early plays. Now. Do you already broke it?
At least broke the clockwork in particular scouting things out
might even make their own aggressive move. Here it goes. Get the cocks.
Should be enough to keep him safe. They can't quite get around those right now.
Socks at the skill lift.
That's true. That always is one of those things that can have a little bit of a negative impact into the beginning of the lane.
You don't have that fade ball to start.
Not the... I like overall the biggest of deals when you're playing for something like clock SF,
because it's mobility, like repositioning is very important versus the SF as well too.
This is ideally you get the lift because you're getting first blood, so good thing that you got the Cogs off on KJ.
And they're just looking at destruct Malady for a moment here before he's going through the gate.
Yeah, I can't really...
Well, they can definitely stop him from getting an easy passage through the twin gate.
Yep, KJ can sit here for some time.
I mean, he's just gonna sit here and not let him go free right? Or is he gonna go home?
He probably wants to lay in a trouble into it.
Yep.
They'll both mess with each other for a moment here.
I mean, who backs down first?
You know, just...
Whose time is being wasted more here?
If the creep wave is under the tower, Watson doesn't need it, the tree up there just yet, so he's getting free experience.
Nope.
They're actually making me aggressive over there.
Hang on!
He's just down to the bottom.
If you're not gonna let me go through the twin gate, I'll just stick around and kill you, Carrie!
Did they get a trade?
They do?
They do, but it might cost them King Joe's life as well, DM's going in for the kill.
One more hit, he's gonna survive some.
He's gonna make it?
Of course, super low on the HP.
So what they stop them from getting to the twin gate and killing fucks. He killed them first
They get first blood here. And next and this game we do have to mention right
This is not a full for protect one, but it is kind of in a way, right?
We see what whispers been able to do on his timbersaw. He's gonna get super far well
But you know my plan right? He yes tends to get super fond on the tip
But you know, all right
It is a game that he has to be able to have a decent time or he's just gonna get doomed every single time
He's gonna have a lot of focus on to him as well, too
So, and early death, definitely painful for him.
And so would you agree with that vibe as well that if LGD do have a rough start,
this draft is going to be rather difficult to come back against the Yandex with a lead?
Yeah, the Yandex draft is designed, if they do get like Roshan, if they hit this 30-minute mark,
kind of at this even goal like Quinn was talking about, their heroes just scale super strong.
BKB, Pearson, Invoker's late game gets pretty ridiculous,
and he has good matchup versus Slardar at the game progresses.
Early game, it's not a good version, Volker, but as it does go on, it could be very problematic.
Just so much control, dispells.
And yeah, theoretical, right? It's just a shaman.
How much is he going to be able to contribute in this game?
Because this hero, you kind of have to get in the face.
So what's wrong with the hero? Why is nobody else playing it right?
Super close, like super short range on everything.
And this, at least in this game, there's nothing to break,
so you don't even have this Hex break. It's going to be super efficient.
It starts into a lot of problems.
Seven jungles will survive and we'll be able to dodge the Sun Shrike and live
You have like I mean I could list like 50 problems for the shaman
It's just like you have many issues at times to cast range issues sometimes also just you squish you
They didn't kill him and they left him low
But he's actually able to walk across on the lane and get the two carriers. Okay, that's kind of the dream
And he'll just suicide himself
Reset is positioning come back to the lane. That's pretty nice
get someone out of that King jungles but Yuma is really struggling five and two at
the moment the 14th floor of the doom. Gotta be a concern right if you're not
getting your SF easy farm at the start especially when you want to try and play
a more fast pace lineup than you know what Yandex is looking to do.
If someone's got to be done to sort this out.
Tylong right that's gonna be him that's gonna have to fix this because he is
having that good time in the mid lane as he was designed to so ideally he's
probably gonna be looking to make some very quick rotations to help out Yuma
here. Let's see if they can actually put any aggression onto Watson. Probably not.
That's also a bit of an issue with the shaman. You're very low damage in comparison to the
traditional four positions that we're seeing. Yeah, I mean these two can have to kill him right here.
He's gonna have Malady behind him with a living armor. Eventually, you know, that points into
refraction. He did just miss the meld. So pretty big one that he does miss onto Whisper here.
They go for Malibu, they cannot.
That would have been a second Malibu there on Whisperer, so the fact that he missed the
first one, she hurt a little bit here in Watson.
Because in terms of the names, it feels unlikely that LGD are going to really get chances to
get kills in these side lanes, right?
Yeah, I guess they can.
It's just difficult versus Rubik, because he can always just move the clockwork out
of the way.
a lot of HP row, it's double braces, even if you're landing these raises.
Yeah, they probably could just get the kill themselves, PJ.
So it's coming in, and we'll get split, doesn't matter, King Jungle still get taken out by DM.
This lane is usually designed to just stop the clock SF, so the fact that they are slowed down,
there'll be some concerns for them.
Yeah, it's just, the dude seems like a really nice quarter lane against it,
unless you're kind of punishing him on the early levels, right?
If he's able to get the two braces, he's going to be fine, and on top of that,
on top of that because he has this living armor
coming across the map from Malady
to help him out if it ever looks a little bit risky.
So it's just a super hard kill for the SF Clock to go for.
And Rubik, it's not just that he's able to reposition.
He also reduces damage, right?
Reduces the magical and the physical damage.
It all adds up when you are playing.
It's not, not a fun lane to try and kill.
No.
When you're this SF Clock.
Sixers out.
Pretty rare scenario, as you say.
Most setups do suffer against the SF Clock
in the landing stage.
And if history is going to continue kind of away, right, TA as a hero, is a counter pick versus DSF in the past.
So we'll see how Yuma does deal with that in particular as the game does go on.
Thailand doing great though.
29-10 to the 16-4, he's controlling the runes, he's even killing four spirits, that's where you see it that high up in terms of the last hits.
Early rotation, it gets the lift off before the Cogs.
He's going to be able to run. If he gets the cards off first, perhaps he'll kill.
It's probably would have been, it's just tricky.
And as you say, now that you've expended that extra resource, bringing an extra hero down,
still not getting the kill, DM's going to be very fine.
I mean, top of the CS right now on this off-lane doom.
But the latest of the book, if Whisper is just fine, be left alone top.
Sure. TAs is going to go jungle and maximize on Watson.
So, does have opportunities to make these rotations unfeel the core.
If you can actually get the connection.
Yeah, I mean, they're looking at mid.
They actually have the Sentry in place of the Obstort, too.
Another Sunstrike, Yuma.
He's on his own, because the supports have gone to the mid lane.
He's dead.
This hurts.
This is really a rough start.
They have to help Yuma out, right?
I'm gonna go for the attacks on Chirijun, but he has the cold snap.
Talon will still close in with the cross step with the hex.
And Chirijunia should be dead here.
So they will get the kill that they looked for in the mid,
But it is the sacrifice on the other side of leaving the carry line
They're both doing just just about as bad though, right?
Chira and the SF are getting sacrificed pretty hard here
So Tylon is doing a great job and this is kind of how they have to play around this Lardar
Enable him to get these aggressive moves
Yuma can't farm and catch back up. The SF does farm super fast
So concerning that he does have a rough start, he can recover absolutely
Six shrine for shrine
And Chira does just have this extra protection, Valady is just sitting right behind him now
at this point.
Does have level 6 also on Chira, so has the Wex Point, so lot easier for him to survive.
He can tornado, reset much easier versus the Slardar.
Now Wilson's going to of course be able to farm nice and quickly with this Max Meld build.
Yeah, he's the only one who's playing it.
I was wondering if anybody else was going to try the TA, but it's literally just him,
So it's very interesting to see the style of the game.
Did they hear a sort of sieve nerfs?
Is there a reason why the carries aren't looking to the TA in the same fashion that Watson does?
It did just lose a lot of what it had, right?
You know, all of the facets being gone, you lost even the innate, which let you see when
Roshan was up all the time as well too, so perhaps it's unexplored on some of the players.
So cheer up, he's just going to jungle, catch up, they're going to give Sox in the mid lane.
Tylong gonna look to accelerate things I'd imagine keep controlling the ruins looking to play very aggressively to assist
They can easily kill DM with a rotation of the slaughter most of the heroes in fact this you know that they said
That's what's talking about because is the strongest here on the map in the early game for the side of LGD
Quite people to find the end of him just drag the wave. He's gonna just go for the economy move back up pull to the camp
That doesn't mean that this rotation from Thailand will not get them a chance to get
a kill.
Perhaps a tower, is that what they want to push for here fully?
Open up the map so that they can start to invade versus this greedy draft that Yandex
does have.
Looks like that is going to be the case, let's see if there's going to be any moves that
come down here.
Because Peno is also saying it is pretty independent cores, they like to play for themselves, all
three of them, the TA, the invoker, and it's doing-
It's pretty greedy right?
It is very greedy.
So it can absolutely get punished if they want to go for this pressure, but tower doesn't really take too much damage here.
KJ, should be just fine.
And I think maybe this is one of the reasons that they did pick the shaman, right?
They want to accelerate, they want to take objectives, use the shot and serve at warrants.
Oh, mid. Looking for the angle on Chirijunia, they found him in the river.
It's done. He's very, very dead here.
So this is the name of the game, Enable Tylong, because as I said, Yuma can catch up through
the farm as he already is.
Jira is not catching up with the pressure that they're putting onto him here.
Oh, the other quarter supply.
2 XP from 6.
Should be able to finish off the tower even without the Serpent once though.
It looks like there won't be any TP's in from Yandex to try and put a stop to this, and
maybe even better if they didn't have it here because he could potentially clear the next
creep, go to another.
Keep setting that tempo to take the towers and open up the map for them and speed it up
They do want to do with this draft
So ten minutes in taking the mid tier one tower. They have that little
Slight bit of a net worth lead so but they've really shot down Chira
And now when they have these towers you have access points into those camps that the invoker likes to catch up on with his ice claws
Whisper, I mean if they can find DM this will be a very nice rotation
Tylaan is here on the court
Speedy dog.
Get the best side set for him, they have to set up.
And they will get this kill very easily and now can push onto the tier one.
Now the meat is going to stop the Serpent Water.
But he was so quick with that one, Saxon.
He was too straight away.
He was getting efficient.
And I'm ready to get the Serpent Water himself.
Does he want to use them to fight?
Let's see how he wants to use them.
He'll just shoot at the defend.
So I'm starting to come in here.
I'm trying to damage.
Careful.
I'll be pretty careful.
Talon looks like he's still probably gonna go down though, okay, they've got the fortification
We'll stop the push for now, but exchange of farm. He's getting a lot separate words give a ton of xp and gold
So when he does farm them himself to socks is now almost level seven
That's true. There's actually a farm
There's a complete set of wards there because they did reduce the amount of gold they gave in the last patch
But the xp is still extremely significant, which is weird sir rewards giving xp, but they do for some it does
Really? I was back in the day. Well, they're those sort of units would give just be some gold right?
Yeah, this one is one of the only ones of units that gives like this much XP though. It's quite interesting
Top, they're accelerating, LGD. All three towers potentially almost claimed here at this early game.
Oh, this is what they need to do
Set that tempo, get themselves to a position with an advantage
I think that should be Thailand's blink dagger too, so can keep the ball rolling, can look for these kills onto these greedy heroes
And Yuma?
Pretty much completely recovered
So far pretty good through the side of LGD.
Alright, because this is the difference, right, as you were saying, with the rotations early, like that pressure that was put into humor.
He can recover, whereas Yandex, the pressure that was put into cheer junior,
and the recovery is just not going to be as easy for him as an invoker as opposed to this shadow fiend that had a bit of a tough time in the lane.
infinitely slower and they're putting a lot of attention on him too. They're
putting sentries to block camps. He did start to warm up one of them, but yeah
they're just kind of running at him in particular. Absolutely seems you're
having a much slower time than I think he had hoped for here.
We'll catch up the other cop.
Over two.
Four there in the mid lane. Same time they have. Got the detection out onto Malady.
They got him here.
They got him running down.
Good kill. I did Sloner pick. It has a lot of merits in the game, playing versus what
triple in business love to, so the corrosive phase is going to be super effective throughout
the game. Super wards. Sox has got it up again, using it to pressure the mid tower. This is
a big steal that he was able to get. Defends the bottom tower. Tylo will be happy though
with the illusions. Clean it up completely, so lots of cool to next beat for him.
He's gonna be super fast timings on this loaner, he's gonna have shard immediately at that 15 minute mark with the blink
DM and Watson though still getting just as much of a pause
On LGD. It's just Chira who needs that recovery. It's not gonna be recovery as someone like someone's sacrificing themselves for it
It's just gonna be DM going greedy as well going radiance because he's like, you know what?
Chira will catch up eventually. I can't really help him as a doom
Yeah, the Radiance of course is going to pay off massively in the long haul and that's
kind of what Yandex are looking towards as we heard.
I'm mixed, I feel bad around sometimes because I do waste attempts at being able to play
with the team, but I can of course see the Radiance this time, the reasoning.
Solid Hook, Shion on to Saksa, nice grab, fed up with Tylon, and Whisper to get involved.
Another bit of action, head themselves back over to tier 1 tower and find that final tier
1 suit.
14 minutes in all tail is taken they could set up to try for the wisdom steel
I like the positioning that they're making these moves great macro movement so far from the side of LGD
Contesting this wisdom. Let's see if they do want to even try on the side. I guess they don't they just expect that
Well from the LGD side at LGD looks like they expect the Yandex
We're gonna bring in a lot for the offense, but I think they're priority. I think they want to prioritize these stacks whispers
So I look at triple stack here
Can prevent the TA from farming that doesn't finish off the big creeps.
Do you have an amplified damage ring in the bottom for Tylone?
Doesn't he Malody's able to just back up? He's got level six now, Overgrowth is out there ready.
I thought they would really push forward for that shrine a little bit harder there but
practically it was stacks I guess. Yeah I guess they were just concerned about the fact that obviously
ults are up, they want to get kind of overgrown and doomed. Yeah I guess so.
But yeah they back off and opt to not go for what might have been a slightly risky move.
Tylon not only is going to have the shard at 15 but also will have an ogre axe too.
He's going to have some crazy item timings on him.
If Saksa steps up they might just go for a quick jump on him.
Ideally they'd love to find Chira Junior around the spot.
He's got the amp damage.
It's not like they're going to get the chance to.
Scan's going to hit them in the jungle so they'll be aware of Yandex.
They're not afraid to fight back themselves because they do have these ultimates.
has gotten levels now too so sure his farm isn't the best but he's got the
first core item and he has the combo invoked already so he's got tornado plus
the cold snap with the meteor hammer DM
let's take a jump right down on him and big burst coming from his full
look at the funny spin so the radiance is online but he'll die very quick move
and one that maybe the scan in their own jungle I meant the DM was sort of
caught by surprise right here's the scan up there feels that it's unlikely that
So play would come from on the bottom of the TPs, but it does they were anticipating it in the mid lane, right?
That's the group in the tree was sitting behind you thinking even mid or around the top side
Yeah, so good little macro movement there coming out from LGD playing around it. Malady placing these deep words
We've been seeing him do this almost every game that he plays tree because he's super sneaky
So it does give so much information in terms of where they're playing on the map over over again in this early game
I mean, I wonder how much these teams it's not to expect that right because I
Imagine this is something you would look at in the replays, because Malady Tree, it's not a surprise, right?
If he gets the tree, or gets the opportunity to pick the tree, he's gonna pick the tree, and he's gonna do something like this for the vision.
LGD does do similar though, right? KJ, he is also one of those sneaky players that does go for keyboards as well.
He really wanted that forge period, dad. A hookshot to the face of the forge period.
This is feeling the pace in his slow journey, setting up.
Is the combo enough to kill King Jungles?
I saw those a lot.
And Sunstrike is gonna get landed very nicely easy so they'll kill that for cheer junior big recovery for him
I'm saying hooks up my force for it. I'm gonna kill you
That's my son
Socks at delivering a double creep wave to his invoker. That's nice that you'd never see this in public
Especially not a rubik's never do you want a fable?
He would he would
Especially the Ruby players, yeah.
He's a football.
Mawatson has Blink and Deso. He can start getting involved in the game.
Yeah, he's getting the timings that you'd hope for.
Pretty much free farm on the TA.
No pressure's been formed for him whatsoever.
He's barely seen a hero.
Zero, zero, zero. Free farm on him.
Tylung.
I think the game for Tylung, he can't really die too much in this early game.
in this early game. If he falters once or twice in this early game, it could be very,
very scary for the side of LGV. And it's been good so far. It's been 4-0-2.
I mean, kind of perfect, yeah. Could look to smoke here. They've got to smoke out, actually.
They do on King Jungles, but the traps are given them quite a lot of information.
So much info again. They tend to play with a lot of just info. As we saw last game,
they had infinite. This one, they have the traps with the tree.
That's true. They're planning against TA and tree, especially when it's like a Malady
tree and at Watson TA yeah they're gonna see wherever you go quite a lot
early here Valady anticipating the movement to he's just sitting on this
gate so he will see them coming through immediately that's big information
there's a man to kill him very quickly you might hit half the man to finish
before the solver but not do anything time on the jump on the saxa drop the
combo with the meatball down on the theater the corner fighting with the
side plate at the end of this Tiling does you want to try and get another jump
into this looks like he doesn't so we'll just be the one for one
lgd want to get more you said they're early game
yeah they want to be in an advanced position the fact that they're only one
k ahead at 18 minutes i don't think this is what it's not enough for them do
you think i mean it's around the 20 minutes and i want to see them super
accelerating it's like the tormentor the roach yeah
i mean i'd imagine right from yandex's perspective
like they're getting through the early game they are right now you're 18 minutes
in then sure they've lost the early towers
But Farm looking pretty good top two net worth at the moment with DM and Watson.
And they are stalking Ty Lung right now. He does not have the DKB just yet. Overgrowth is
cooled down but they're coming. They have a hex on Soxa. He does have it stolen.
And you talk about how important it is for Ty Lung not to get caught.
It'll be okay. His early game is so important for the team.
And DM, Blink Radiance is done. Ty Lung trying to make them move bottom to punish but won't be
be able to find him.
Always kind of needs a plus one really, can't go for these plays on his own.
Setting up for the Tormentor though, in about 50 seconds, can they actually go for this?
It's not going to connect, nice try, bit deep anyway.
Really preparing themselves for that Tormentor though, 35 seconds and we will see them go
for it.
But in the meanwhile, yeah, next, they're just hitting creeps all over the place and
do they want to go for something with this, you know, trade play that we see teams do
where one team goes for Tormenter, the other one goes for Roshan.
Gandak should absolutely go for Roshan T.A. Deso.
And yes, also, this is a big steal as well, the Hex.
Even with an Hex to control, Whisper.
Ooh!
Did he, he blinked into farm, I think, and then he gets a nasty surprise.
He blinked into that.
Oh, that's a, that's a brutal death too.
They were super prepared for him, Chira.
He was not prepared for them to be there at all.
Oh, Chira has made the full recovery. Almost the same net worth there as the Sardar.
It's been impressive for him. Did it on the Monkey King in Game 1. He's doing it in this game.
We're still secure the Tormentor for themselves, LGD.
Where's Roshan? He's shifting top. Do they want to set up for it?
A lot of circles being drawn from the LGD side. They want to control the top side, so that says to me.
And who did get that Tormentor? Alright, so he got the Ernicanda.
this got and this got a bit of a but oh this one actually got enough and wait
this guy this post sucked whatever more manna the hero already has mana
problems yes he does at the arcane boots it should be okay he does have
blink also on the shaman at this point so can look to assist but these deep
words the boards the mall you placed were not de-worded no they've been the
and buy his lines.
That's insane.
21 minutes also. Look at Malady.
Look at this. Heal the shrine.
King Jungles does get the clipboard here
at the very end of his lifetime.
It already did its job.
Yeah.
Whisper will be able to ensure that they don't lose their wisdom
good position from him.
They're just armed.
As we said, their lineup is about getting to this
like post-30 minutes.
I mean, you could just go for certain.
right in slaughter I did have to drop the serpents I probably have to we do not
want to let this TA get the road you get all the serpents inside that's okay
okay those are scouts those two serpents are scouting all right
costina very quickly here with the SF slaughter and shaman yeah thanks not
looking to contest that by any means cheer junior get by the shard is walk
to so has that ghost walk as you saw previously go for the BKB next all right
And then this Aegis, right? It's not gonna be an Aegis in farm. This is surely gonna be an Aegis and get stuff done.
The fact that they're behind in gold when they got Tormentor and Roshan, that says quite a bit about how much Yandex is able to farm.
Time to push LGD and see if they can force these fights
before Yandex is able to get to the legs of stages of the game.
Before Yandex gets to BKBs in particular, because if Yandex is able to get triple BKB timing, Gristus line up,
They're pretty like when they're just even ground, that's the concern, right, because
a lot of this damage will be negated and they can just close the gap on the SF.
They're completely avoiding the fights here, he undefined, don't want to get dragged into
these, gonna just let this tier 2 go by looks a bit, yep, they're just farming and they're
getting their own pressure too.
Chiric does get the meteor hammer on bottom tower, it's gonna be below half HP as well.
He's coming to TP back now.
He's looking at Saksa, but he's not with the TP.
He's having to spend up, get the blink dagger now for the Rubik.
So Saksa, a lot of potential on him to get these big steals.
Watching Malady's play too.
He's stacking up the top waves trying to prevent the push from happening,
but they didn't push forward even more.
So they only went for the tier two, didn't go for super pressure here.
BKB on Ty Lung buys it. They get a gem as well too. That says a lot about how much they want to pressure.
These TA traps, they want to bypass them.
I need to get more LGD.
BKB number one. It's done. BKB number two. Very close on the horizon also for Yandex.
He's got this high ground ward. DM.
And the captain.
They're gonna catch up straining. And they'll get him. They do drop the Serpent Watch for this, which ends up being a little unnecessary,
but I can't really kind of blame them right there.
They know that they have to guarantee these kills as quickly as they can.
How far do they push forward for these two tier twos?
I want, I mean probably just for both. I want to see them just go for the both of them here.
But it is getting cut. So Chirjun here, ghost walking the bottom wave.
This is the last wave that they have on this bottom side.
KJ is trying to hunt him.
They can actually find him. I mean, they...
And why is he seeing...
What?
Whispers in to help.
Chujiru will turn with the combo, the hook shots out though, shorting jungles dies, can whisper finish the job on his own.
Ghostwalk TP, and he is a wax.
Chujiru, oh, only just...
We'll get the kill, get out.
Chujiru on the bottom lane of course was taken down, Tylong's bringing in the mid lane, and Husband needs to pick up an Amp and try damage rune.
So, still getting these towers, but still not really growing the lead as much as they'd hoped for.
It's still very close on the numbers because the...
The balance is there, Yandex are still finding that much in return of how much they're able to just split up and farm the map.
They just keep cutting waves, and Chira, the fact that he gets a solo kill like that on the clockwork, a big deal, it also finishes off the Urna Condo.
I didn't even know how much money that thing gave. Apparently 97. I haven't, first time I've seen someone actually ever kill it.
I've never seen Shaman, and now, Yandex, they're ready for fights.
I'm just straight into the trees with a sub-strike, they find the Urna Condo!
got scouted and he's dead Tylung in the tree line too be careful yeah they
didn't quite see him Tylung well see him now he's in the river
he was ready though with the rat cream just in case they do come up to the
high ground a drop of ward in here anticipation of such play
there aren't him so he's fine he's able to turn the deafening blast of the meeple down on the human
you must got to get out of there Tylung tries to jump in but he's got to kill any of these
heroes he'll get doomed he's dead oh Yandex is just ready for these fights and
And that was the champ that was DM's able to get it picked up.
And Saxo, he's jumping in trying to find more.
You look?
He's got the telekinesis off to you, I'm into the gold snap, that's the age he's gone.
Oh, he could die twice, he has Manta.
Sitha can set up for round two.
I'll pull down, Yuma.
Trying to run, but the Sitha's coming in, the burst through DSF.
Yuma's gone.
Another catch, whisper.
And the kinesis under Stolen and Shaq remain down onto the team, but so whisper to die
as well.
is doing work here. 5K lead now for Yandex and this was around this ages that
LGD had they needed to use this to try and blow the lead up for themselves but
they've ended up losing the fight massively. They're getting outplayed, they're getting out
executed around the map. And concerns now right because the comeback factor for
this lineup seems not to be a lot. No it's very very difficult if you do start
falling behind on the Slardar versus the Invoker. He was 5-0 until this point too.
There's a couple of missteps forward even with the edges. You can see that Watson is the king of the game.
Level 19, IH is massive. He's got to hit all his timings. It is completely free for him.
And they did not really bring anyone up there to put any pressure on this TA.
Watson, he's having a dream grand final so far. He's got to be an insanely founding game on the Nature's Prophet.
And this game, he is absolutely living the life on his TA. He is loving it.
Chira pretty much similar as the Monkey King, if not even better this time.
No, it is.
Super impressive from Chira Juno on these mids.
Doesn't matter about the lane, doesn't matter about the early game, but they're bringing
numbers, they're ganking him, trying to take his tower away as quickly as they could.
Yeah, this is one of his iconic heroes that he knows absolutely, so knows how to recover
with it beautifully.
This is going to be hard now for LGD.
It's super difficult.
Chira now has plate mail and we saw him even survive when they got the initial jump on
him in the last time.
Not only that.
Turobik has a shard too, so now Soxa has a save potential for him too.
And something I was mentioning to you when I was concerned with the SF pick, he has no saves.
Does not have any extra protection.
Turobik, I mean Turobik is coming in from a great angle there,
lies up the three man tornado into the left blast, they have to walk up the doom down on Yuba.
Yuma is gonna try and run away, but once he's ready to come in with the damage,
Yuma's gonna attack to Tyran and do something in return, and then Turobik,
grab on to Turobik, but he's gonna jump in so deep for this,
The stolen shack will come down for Saksa, Tylong will fall!
They get a couple of them but they lose three, maybe four.
Maladyjohn's four, he'll attempt to tip a chain out of this whisper.
See if you can continue to run both of them in King Jungles so low!
Another blinking two for Watson.
Gonna focus the tower, listen King Jungles and Whisper will get the luxury of living here.
So some trades, but trades are not good for them at this point.
And still losing the big two right, losing Tylong, losing Yuma again.
the indexes they're very good at reading the plays and my goodness Chira that
angle just wraps up behind me it's a three man tornado perfectly yeah stops
the shackle also allows socks at a steel shackle to that was a picture for
look at this angle yeah can you do them but also canceling the shackle yeah
that's it they know that they can't really afford to run right they have to
try and make these fights work somehow so time goes for this jump in ensures that
They at least bring down a big kill at the Invoker, but actually coming out on top of these fights in a favorable trade in terms of numbers, it seems pretty tough right now with the deficits that they're playing with.
They do have BKB now for Yuma, but his deaths really hurt him 2-4 in this game, and Tylung in particular is mostly right.
Back-to-back deaths, his progression has completely stopped.
Yeah, had a bit of a difficult time on the Largo and
It seemed a bit more hopeful at the start right from on the slardar
But at this point, yeah, the gold difference is really showing all takes is one or two of these miss like these slip-ups when you're playing
Versus type of greedy draft and when you're playing versus team like Yandex mistakes compound that much more they really do
Yeah, Yandex seven K lead at the moment and somehow like Malady again
Look, you got another baseboard so he knows he sees these couriers flying through so he sees all the information
knows where they are.
That's so much, yeah.
I feel like it's surely going to be something you pick up for like looking at your replays
right here.
So we're planning a Malady tree.
He is going to have these deboards on our side of the map.
They've got to be prepared.
Someone look at the offsensory combo to cover and watch the angle as he comes from his
whisper.
Just getting spreaded.
The index, they've hit all their timings and it feels like the timings for LGD have pretty
much fallen apart.
Now they won't find Malady.
Hey, they'll get a tree in.
the push on this bottom lane. It's going to be coming in super. Watson pretty much has
the full Daedalus online. My god. And as we said, it's a good matchup. A TI versus SF,
especially when you're ahead. Feels fantastic. And he has saves, right? He's got the Robic
Lift to protect him and he's got a Lackardy. The SF has at least Corrosion Pays, but no
real saves. Here, Juniper, he's ready! Amnesia, BKB, time for the tornado! The full combo down
on the previous, the three is in! The BKBs will come out, allows the BKB of DM. He's
He's gonna go for the BKB TP Alchemist, so he'll get out!
Time to be as lucky though.
Will not manage to TP away.
I mean, Jirakir is so quick with that.
He's super ready.
I mean, he's playing this super nice on this Invoker.
Sure had a little bit of a tough start entering the game,
but afterwards, he's in some sweet combos.
Level 21 already, also.
And the items are pretty much perfect, right?
You're playing for some minus armor strategy lineup.
Xivis feels fantastic.
Check this out again.
Look how fast he was.
As soon as he sees them, he's like,
All right, we got to fight this.
It's the BKB.
Just at the same time, Detection was being
popped down to try and prepare for him.
He's all right.
We got to fight BKB full combo, drop down.
DM dies, but he gets the doom off on the Tylungs
who try to get out of the fight.
Back in action.
King Jungle's dead again.
Push coming in now, onto the top.
Chirgin and bringing in the Crete Wave there
with the forward spirits.
The LGD drafter doesn't play nearly as effectively
when it's played from behind.
They have to have a lead in this game in Tylung.
It's just chain dying.
That's three now for him.
showing up jumps and crashes I think I want to say they've done like eight last
hits in the last 10 minutes or something it feels like he's done in no
farm because he's still in force to do these plays because he knows he has to
but it is sacrificing him so heavily yeah they're just so far ahead right now
yandex look into the roche fair but look at this damage difference ox is no
good to look at cheera and then look at tylon 20k compared to nine that was a
big tell-off about the story of this game.
And taking away the champ in the moment that they got to, right?
That fight around the mid lane was everything for the Yandex,
and that was the fight that LGD felt they had to win.
Now at this point, the game is just super complicated.
How do you progress? Your SF kid?
The SF matchups just aren't very good now at this point.
All three cores counter you.
I mean, what do you think LGD is going to be taking away
from these two games so far in this best of five?
What are you looking at that Yandex are doing against you
saying we got to stop this we got to change this show we've got to kind of
shift our priorities and what we're looking to address with the draft and
with the play what what do you do I think I use maybe step one is malady tree
it's a problem but then also just the three cores getting kind of all three
signature heroes I think something has to be done about them getting all three
that they just love to play
oh poor king jungles because this game it does feel like
One-way hit there from...
And maybe also overall for LGD, because we saw the way they designed the draft yesterday,
it does get to a point of infinite scaling.
Maybe just having a draft that doesn't hit a timer, doesn't have to play with this kind of like stress all the time
to make these constant moves, because Yandex, they didn't feel stressed in this game, right?
They were just sitting back, hitting the creeps.
I think we've got to bring back the Zeus, go for the two-hour gameplay.
That's what they've got to do, sort of shape this series up.
It could be. It could be an answer that they do look for.
Now Yandex now in their prime element, right? Backing up.
The holding and control of the entire map.
He can get whatever they want.
Yep, and I was waiting until at least got one of the things here, but now DM.
He's got the Shivas, he's got the congregations.
They have a Rupik on their team versus a Slaughter.
He can steal Corrosive or Stun, he makes the puddles, everyone else does more damage, blah blah blah.
There's a lot of different instances of damage amplification that Yandex does have.
Well, it really is starting to feel again, like the last game, it's all on Yuma.
Yeah, and it's gonna be...
I mean, what even is the setup for a dream fight in the high ground?
It has to be what some kind of crush, five-band crush into Requiem?
Five-band crush.
I mean, he just needs to be able to distance himself, is the important thing.
If he can clear out the invoker, and just...
If they can pretty much isolate the TA at some point, that's the ideal.
It's just difficult, because they're very tanky at this point, on the side of Yandex also.
It's like you can just jump in and kill the invoker since he has shivas.
Nah, he's gonna be able to turn and go on, you know, with the hex coming out for Chirodrinia.
He could just hunt it to zero anybody. He did get the Partizan's brand, which is of course the dream for the invokers we saw previously.
And soon, you can see he gets the Catalyst, which is just broken on Invoker.
Watson, swiftly finished up.
It's just six-slotted already.
And nearly level 25! He's already there.
Hang around and take the 35-minute wisdom away from LGD if you once he's been pretty spectacular a lot of these games just insane KDA
I'm somehow somewhere that they have to have to they've just got to put more pressure on what some night
Yeah, but the delay that they have it's just not really designed to do so. So perhaps in the next game
They have to try to find something that is like they've got to have a plan to that doesn't involve letting Watson have as much space as he's getting
I'll agree speaking of Watson. If you get the head side
Okay, until after Shackle to follow up, will be forced back to safety,
DM's going to get the BKB off so he can run.
To deal the core, that was his BKB reveal for the Shackles.
They weren't even able to finish off the end.
I thought perhaps they were at least going to get a trade onto their Watson, jumping forward.
Summer's down. Ooh, Hookshot's going to come in.
There's a stolen one that will take the Hex off, forcing him to the side, but don't kill him.
He's hit on the Watson, but he's just ready to turn.
Tyler's trying to run, but the Deftonbass comes in.
Tyler's gone.
He just jumps in and dies every time.
It was a hard jump as well.
I mean, Watson still had an agent.
He did.
Stomping a little bit desperate here.
The play is from LGD.
Yeah, look how they're revving up the wreck
with him here on the side, too.
He's under a trap, too, so let's see if he's in.
Watson, whoop, put that back away.
Sockson will die.
That's not the target he wanted to hookshot.
He wanted to cast the other guy.
It happened the ends of kind of a deepening for that with the initial target dodging it. Yeah, he wanted that timber
Back to split pushing the wave here
It's your up there's a last out of you look you up the agonist. Yeah, we'll see that again
Okay, whoops, yeah travel with the bands up there getting a little bit more than bargain for their saxa
I mean that was that was insane by Taiwan jumping forward like that. There's not really
does not play that they're going for there right so it's just he kind of just
if you don't get your BKB off right yeah he didn't I mean he's like oh well
that I don't want one of them
windbreaker being purchased for DM so looking to get himself out of the cogs
in particular so we are seeing those be a bit frustrating also just having to
save versus the one target that they're going for Watson don't matter let's just
level 25 been hit DD bottle
we are oh look at that he buys a bottle to we bought it
there yeah looks oxa bought a bottle to potentially save the DD for the upcoming
fight so this I am they have no bottle users are such a nice support that
for his knees bringing three waves he's like here you go lots and hold it up for
damage here you go my friend true support here saxa there you go here you bought it
to be fair i don't know if he spent his money it was i don't know what's spent on the he bought
it but he brought it we'll give it a saxa spend his hard earned money we did not make both the
creeps earlier so i'm gonna play with him it's being a saxa look at the hunts does get the
Take the stiller onto KJ.
KJ just walks up.
He's going to have whisper backing him up.
He knows he's going to be quite nice there for DM.
They tried to jump in there. Still bring him super low.
But the damage for the old friend comes out.
Now he's going to get the team down.
And DM is down the road away.
So DM actually ends up living the clinic in the bottom of the damage.
How odd to him. Triple kill for Chiragunia.
Ty lets the O2 and left alive.
And he has to BKB and go for the TPL.
Can he even?
He can. Okay. Watson won't be able to get the angle.
The four dead again.
Tyla survives this time, but everybody else is dead.
Ultra growth, I think, on four heroes or so, even though the man gets popped, he gets doomed.
And just having this Jules on DM is super nice right there.
They try and jump him, and he's like, well, get the Jules off.
And some of the whole go-on to the doom gets completely disrupted.
The other cause none ever get a grab on him, and you see him the chance to come down from his Jules.
Get the BKB off.
And the CP gets coming in from Huma with the overgrowth stopping that final hit coming in the play.
It's just all coming together for Yandex and it's all falling apart massively for LGD.
That was one of the more beautiful triple meteors, it hit everybody.
Literally just on top of all of them and it's this game too, he has the bubble.
We'll get to that point of course, this game is pretty much about to end here but...
It looks like it might.
They have way more progression, way more farm so...
One Saksa.
And a catch.
And a catch.
He can mess around with him. BKB's still on cooldown obviously from that last fight and Saksa knows it.
He has no TP.
So who can just mess around with him?
Just keep distilling him, keep chasing him.
Yep.
Oh, this is just bullying.
Another distiller up in three seconds.
He's got Blink also.
Ah, looks like they don't.
OK.
Do they care?
Nah, they don't.
I guess.
They'll leave him.
But, Magus.
Just a mega creeps out of here.
Almost 1k per minute.
Yandex.
Playing it beautifully again here.
Dodging the fights that they felt like they needed to
and then they just answered.
That mid fight in particular, right?
That progression that they got from killing Thailand,
Getting the gem, getting multiple different fight wins after.
They just didn't get enough.
They needed to get more, it felt like.
They were never more than one.
1k advantage, to get the maximum, maybe.
Yeah, it might have touched sort of 2k for a second, but...
It just feels like they are quite counterpicked.
It was very difficult to play with this greedy draft
if you do not get that type of advantage.
Yeah, that was just some of the Yandex had a really good approach so far today.
ready for LGD gotta find some type of way to break them break the way that they
draft is just deals and when you look at it they had everything they wanted right
they got cheer on one of his best heroes Watson on one of his best DM on one of
his best malady on his literal best yeah it's looking very good and especially
when you consider over here for the coach at the start right reckon this was
like a 50-50 draft and if this is how good a 50-50 draft ends up playing out
then that's pretty terrifying for LGD some of these early game like certain
Early situations that happened, right?
It's probably not designed to look in that last game,
the Drow dying to the Lycan lane.
This time, the SF getting killed twice,
did slow down the early start zone,
so Yuma's just been behind pretty much the whole game also.
Because clock SF, it's meant to just win the lane,
and this is one where they did not win the lane.
It was just recovery for them afterwards.
Come on, Grush.
It's gonna be up in a couple of seconds.
Level 25s.
Did he just walk? I think he walked up right when it spawned.
That's happened a couple times too.
They don't quite know that it's back up now.
Literally the second it was spawned.
Yeah, they're checking a moment here.
I make a creep starting to push in.
Yeah, I mean, Socks even started to have a lot of things here.
I didn't notice when they'd get by a Kaia at some point.
Not the Rubik.
Not something you see every day.
But...
Okay, maybe you see every day, yeah.
Not a pro games.
Smoked in the base.
Whisper. They can hug it to zero.
Oh, they can.
Very, very quickly. He's very, very dead.
Does have buyback.
Got to have to use it.
I think the rocket player probably caught vision of that.
Just holding one there from Saksa.
How do you, how do you focus?
They're going to jump into everything, onto the T8 self, they're going to be here, they're going to get back out of safety, they can turn, the combo dropped down, this game's over, as Gigi's called, Yandex, a 2-0 right now, and a pretty convincing 2-0 lead here at the moment in this best of five Grand Finals.
There's got to be some adaptation coming in.
They've got to change something massively for it,
because at the moment, this is not looking close.
And we know that LGD, they've got more to give
than what they've given us so far in these two games.
Hey, maybe they have to go for a bit more greed
and perhaps not try to play the pressure game,
because, yeah, they seem to know how to play
versus these pressure drafts.
And it just feels very stressful for the side of LGD
if they're not getting every single little thing done.
That the thought in the back of your mind
is Watson's just free farming.
They have a triple super scaling core.
They aren't essentially playing a four-protect.
They are.
And I just thought I want to see Thailand
want something different.
I just want to get a pop-up hero.
A little bit more than the Lager in terms of potential
for him, but try and get him back on one of his classic heroes,
right, that he's just been absolutely destroying games
with these two heroes.
Just haven't really felt like it.
And Yandex, my goodness.
Chiratunia are both of these games, I feel.
From what he's done from the mid, where he's not
had necessarily an easy time in the lane,
He's been fantastic with the comebacks and the damage.
36k damage from him.
Only 90 from the Slardar give in.
Yeah, yeah, brilliant stuff from Yandex in these two games.
And he had big change-ups required from LGD going
into game three, two-zero right now for Yandex
in this Grand Finals.
And I'm here with Soxa, quick little interview
before you get back to your team.
You got lost pick Rubik.
Were you planning on picking Rubik throughout the entire
draft or did you really feel that freedom at the end
you're like I can have whatever I want. I think at the end I could I felt like I
could have what I want and it seemed like a pretty nice little big game so it
was kind of no brainer. And when we talked to Axel before the game started he
said that we wanted to watch that mid lane see how Slot are did it seem like
he did have a good beginning of his game against you did you have a plan in
place to kind of stop them from snowballing or did it feel like they
were a little less aggressive than you thought they might be. I think we kind
of messed up in the mid lane I think we could have done even a better job of
defending it. I think that was kind of the only chance in this game so I think it didn't go as expected
as we planned but we kind of did a good job salvaging things. Yeah and now with two wins under
belt do you ever feel like get a little excited before the final game? Would you hold it right until
the final GG? Definitely hold it. I think if you start like thinking you've already won with your
R2O then it can be some bad news for you. I've been in finals like on the other side where you
you're like down to zero and you end up making a comeback so I think anything is possible
so you're just going to stay focused till the end.
Very good discipline with that I'll let you get back to your team thank you so much Soxa.
Back to our desk.
The good news about Yandex here is that even though they are having a couple of slip ups
in the earlier portions of the game in their mid lane it ultimately doesn't matter everything
else is still going right for them and CJ is incredibly skilled at being able to make
comebacks in that mid portion of the game. He's still able to have an active role as a mid laner,
find farm for himself. And I think that at the end of the day, that's what's more important than
winning the lane, right? If you're able to do a lot when you're behind, then you feel like a mid
laner that can offer so much more to a team. Yeah, his spellcasting was really, really impressive
this game. I think throughout the entirety of the game, he was, he was cooking like crazy. There
were a couple of strong strikes, like how does he even know the guy is there? He was, he was locked
I think for the entirety of Yandex they're kind of locked in. They've they've been playing super comfortably
Those very natural like they're not stressed at all. You can like feel them chilling on the beach
Simple mimosas play in this game
I mean just looking at that the highlights seeing the net worth even though LGD has the ages
You're not feeling like they're taking over the game
But when you look at you know Slardar shaman shadow fiend like you really are expecting so much more of like a
Tempo to be set to the game like Westbourne is Timbersaw as well
like he's ending the game like two, five and four.
It's like an early phase pick on the timber.
Short in previous games later into the pick,
it's done a lot of work,
but it just felt like LGD have been just out kind of drafted
and outmaneuvered now, two games in a row.
And I am looking towards LGD making those adjustments
because right now the way that they're trying to approach
the kind of the complexities of the finals,
they're just not really matching up the index right now.
Yeah, my biggest thing for them right now
is honestly that I think on an emotional
and like psychological level, they're getting completely out done.
I think they feel so scared in these games when I'm watching them.
They're not playing like themselves at all.
I think Yana said it during the cast and it's very true that we just don't.
This is not LGD. We're not watching LGD play.
And I think they would say that about themselves, too.
I've been there.
Sometimes the finals can get to you and it can mess with your head.
It's a tricky thing.
It's not like a normal best of three.
And I think they need to understand that and accept the fact that we're not playing
like ourselves, but we still can.
The series is not over.
But if we want a chance of winning, we need to stop being so scared
because they are terrified and you can't be that way.
It's really hard to dig that deep, though, Teeley. Where do you really pull that from, especially, again, when we're seeing lane still do well for the side of LGD, or, I mean, Thailand being able to do so much against CJ as well, even though he's playing his Invoker, which is a specialty?
Yeah, it's kind of, I think, honestly, maybe KJ and Numa, if you want to try and sympathise somewhere.
Like, you know when they go to lane, they're going to take the fight. They're going to make moves. Like, in the first game with the Drow, they were trying to go for these kills, but then they died to a Lycan and a Conal.
And now in this game as well, so you have like SF Clock, and you're expecting a lot more from them, but it's not really happening though.
I'm not seeing KJ Smoke as SF to go make a random move that no one expects, like the ganks of Anagosirin in previous games.
Like, we're not seeing any life really from that safe lane, and I think it is really kind of what Quinn's mentioning.
I think they are just a little scared, they're over-respecting.
Like, the fact in both drafts as well, it's like, Yuma's not picking heroes for himself, it's kind of like the drafts like,
Oh, we're gonna take the first pick draw.
Oh, and now in this phase, because we haven't banned Shadowfiend yet, and we've got Timber, we have to beat the Shadowfiend.
So, like, the drafts are kind of like this, like, theory of Yandex, rather than LGD going draft against us, beat us.
Like, they've got, they're just, it's Yandex's grand finals right now.
Yeah, 100%. And I think it bears itself out, especially whenever they're up 2 or 3k gold on LGD.
They have so much potential to do stuff, you can just watch the gold lead.
They are considerably stronger at this point. We talked about how slow Yandex's cores are, and they are slow.
It's Templar Assassin, Doom, and Invoker.
They're just farming, and look how stagnant the gold lead is.
There's no kills happening, maybe one every minute and a half.
There's no gold change.
This can't be happening.
There's a huge period where Andex is literally farming
on all three cores in three lanes for five minutes straight,
and no one makes a move or does anything.
And that's not because they can't,
or even if they don't know how.
It's just that they're giving too much respect.
I totally agree with what you're saying.
You can get into this mode, especially when you're behind
or when you're scared of, oh, they can do this,
or this guy might have blinked soon.
or they might do this and you get so focused on them, whether it be in draft or gameplay,
they both bleed into each other, that you stop even thinking about what you can do because
you're so, I don't know, there's just such an obsession with what the enemy can do.
I mean, it's like not only that, like when you look at the heatmaps of Yandex, right, we looked at,
you know, after this type of gameplay, like, hmm, let's look at TA, let's look at Doom,
and you just see that as the game progresses from that one minute mark to five minutes,
they have not, of course, left their lane, they've not even made a gank at eight minutes,
they're just farming backwards into the jungle, 10 minutes, they're still farming their side of
the map. 12 minutes they're still farming in their own corners. Progress to 14, 15, 16, 17.
There is not a single point here where you've asked Ivor Kor to go can you please make a move
and when you look at LGD the reason why they are in this grand finals is this heat map of their
opponents is just a sea of mishmash colors because they're dragging people around the map. They're
making people do uncomfortable things and when I look at that and I see a TA and a doom live
absolutely free in their corners for nearly 17 minutes of the game in the back of my mind I'm
I'm like already that it's it's already too low because the LGD they're not in this game at all
They are just kind of second guessing themselves worried and they may be making problems elsewhere because that is like that heat map
It's it's unacceptable against TA and do I thought that that's what the shadow shaman was going to give life to a little bit
We've already spoken about it that there are moments where LGD LGD dropped to themselves to just simply kill heroes
But then they don't have objective taking they have that in SF shore
But in the earlier portions of the game when the SF is trying to be a carry that gets online
I really like shaman for that right you're able to drop your awards and you're forcing rotations out from the side of
Yandex at least that's what you're hoping
But to see that across their heatmaps and none of that cause it even asking the other one to sacrifice a little bit of farm
I do wonder why aren't more towers being taken at the end of the day
That's what I would want to do as a shaman and that's what I wanted to see from their shaman
It's an insidious thing that bleeds into everyone right I think I don't know
It's it's really hard to tell who starts it to know if it's a draft thing
I don't know if it was something that happened before the game started
But something in the middle of game one what it is
But you can see it in everyone right because you're right shaman could be doing a lot more
I think everyone could if you look at each individual player, but it's it's seeped into
The team and you can just see it when you watch it's apparent to anyone and so they they have to fix it
I was because I want to clarify when I say it's not the pressure of the shaman player
I'm saying as a team when you have it in your draft
something in your brain should switch being that's how we want to play it because this is what the core identity of a support needs
I mean, they kind of tried like Taiwan here like 900 gold to blink that sorry to blink that he was playing bot tier one
He invited the Charmin down they put the wards with the SS so they were making this overlapping move
But then Saksa he sits there on rubik he skills the wards places it and he just delays his entire move
But if he's not there on the rubik if he doesn't delay this first tier one
Maybe it kind of accelerates the timing goes good job guys easy tower
Then suddenly it starts to blink, then it's a smoke, then it's a kill, but even the small little things that the Ruby did in the early game just added just more complications to that aggression.
And then like when you look towards like the 25 minute mark later down the line, it really is just like one swift move from Yandex.
Even into the ages, of course, prior they killed the Shaman with the Invoker play on the bot side of the river.
And then here it's just like they find the kills and it's like LGD, they're just lost as much as I've lost my words right now.
I think it's tough but I think the way you fix these is you have to start from
sort of the bottom and realize that okay communication I think is the basis for
so much of Dota and I think you can just start talking in a different way I
think the way that you need to talk is very forward-facing and it's you driven
so if you're if you're slaughtered you're not saying oh maybe we can kill this
guy you're saying yo come smoke with me I want to kill this guy I think saying it
with with a personal perspective. Confidence that's what we're talking about in this pre-match.
Absolutely, and I think Yannix has had that in spades and LGD is not phrasing it from a you perspective
I want to do this thing
We can be a let's go kill this guy and and having that air and that even if you don't believe it
There's a lot of truth to think until you make it even in Dota
I mean it's also like you hear in the interview as well like about the kind of the side of us in vocal matchup
Sure, I didn't go very well for the invoker
But knowing that like it was kind of on Tai long to bring the tempo because like your timbers playing into the TA
Your SF hasn't really found anything because the doom is just popping off in his side lane
So it's like, okay, wherever Slava goes, you mirror that or you dodge it and then you're gonna be fine
So the reason why the game slowed down immensely was also Malady on the tree, right?
Having a steep vision, he had the Observer Ward in between the top and mid to 3 tower again in another game
So he is playing this base vision
So maybe it's even the trend factor that we've not even played into an account
Like just the fact of knowing where people are and LGD now two games in a row
It feels like one hero has to do everything for like the good portion of the early game
So if Malady just knows where he is, you're gonna play accordingly
Yeah, there's huge chunks of time where they're kind of just bobbling around the map, not really doing anything, just farming, farming, farming, waiting for that next timing, getting sucked into obsession with items.
I think that's another big part of what happens sometimes in these finals, is you start looking at items. You start, I'm close to BKB, I'm close to Sheevis, I'm close to Lincoln's, and everyone keeps saying that.
And suddenly you're caught in an infinite loop of waiting for the next item, because everyone is close to an item at some point, and I think you have to step a little bit back from that, realize, hey, if we're close to items, we're farming.
farming. That means they are too. Generally in Dota you don't really out-farm people unless you have
specific mechanics that do so. And if all you're taking that space away. Exactly and if that's not
the case then you need to realize yo if we're stronger than them there's no point in farming
because they are too and there's we're gonna reach a point eventually where maybe that becomes
disbalanced and now they're stronger than us or equally as strong and we've wasted our time.
Yeah this is always going to be a give and a take when it comes to Dota. An equally broom could
potentially be reached but right now the advantage is going towards Yandex. They have two games up
in our Best of Five for a grand final, and after this break, we'll see just how Game
three-pans out.
I'm going to get five unpredictable mini-stages and build the strongest graph.
Hold on, okay, who said this line?
I didn't even try.
I guess.
Why do I feel like I'm already struggling?
Is it invoker?
No, okay.
A sandwich.
Nice, good work.
Ah, not a robot.
Uh, type of text, you see?
What?
What does that say, key in?
I don't know, panic.
What am I looking at?
Is it a P?
P-A?
What is this?
This is a letter?
Anglia.
Nice.
Sponsorily fast.
Hurry up.
Hurry up.
Anglia.
Okay.
Oh.
It's the same reaction to you.
What the F is that?
She's a reggae that existed before Dota 2 was released.
I don't know what Dota 2 was like before Dota 2.
That guy?
That...
No, not that guy.
Take that off.
That guy.
That guy.
That's all I was trying to do.
I couldn't get monkey king or...
No, not panga.
No panga.
No monkey?
No monkey.
That's a cat.
I did
Existed before yeah, just sort of a tongue
I got a little bit of one. I didn't play daughter one. What is this? Oh my goodness?
It's gonna rubic. I don't know I didn't play the all-burger nothing existed before they were to you try that one. Yeah, I did
Brooklyn he might have made it in the end. I'm gonna say no. It's called near reef
Thanks, I just do it then quick
What?
Was I untied in the game back then?
Okay, great.
I thought I'm gonna skip this one.
No, no, no, let's not skip it.
Let's not skip it.
We don't skip, we don't skip, we don't skip.
I'm Czech, Arch Warden.
They're wrong if this is right.
I don't know.
Just skip.
There's only so many combinations
this could possibly be.
That's gonna take you 10 years.
Yeah, let's just skip it.
Existed before the, oh!
No, no, no, there's not all about that.
No, it's just, yeah.
I don't know.
Just skip it.
Mike, have you heard about Beastmaster?
Universal hero?
Yes.
It had Beast, but it's not, nope.
I don't know if it's 40, but it's true.
Shard busters hogs?
Probably 20.
Yes, it gives you a second hog.
He spends the balls of razorback.
I didn't call it the razorback, I don't think so.
Why would you do help instead of just skit?
Do you get points for getting it right?
You scared?
Yep.
It's this one.
No!
It's this one?
Yeah!
Let's go.
Find Lara, girl.
Okay.
Where is he?
I've heard this one is rather difficult.
I'm gonna prove that they're just bad.
I see you.
Good?
Am I pretty?
No.
Do you see Lago?
Oh, I wasn't looking for Lago, I was looking for myself.
He's a stupid little frog.
Oh my, what is this?
Lago, and Lago, and Lago, and Lago, and Lago, and Lago,
and Lago, and Lago, and Lago.
Where's the stupid frog?
Like, how hard is it to find him?
I don't know, but I couldn't find him.
Are you sure?
He's right there!
Yeah, it's just a frog like Miss Largo.
Are you stupid?
Oh, I see him, I see him, I see him.
Let's see the good job.
Yeah, I'm going, I'm going.
Isn't Miss Largo on top of Techies?
I see him literally right there.
That is Largo.
How do I confirm?
Right, oh right click.
Should've read the instructions.
Easy.
Dude, this is griefing us.
I am confirming.
I literally see Largo.
Did you right click?
It says right click to place your mark.
Okay.
Ah!
Click faceless, wait, then confirm.
Okay, this is easy.
Okay, it's right.
You see it
Oh shit, I wouldn't think
Is he all these times? I see him. I see him. Oh, I see him. I can't even hello. How do I?
He's right there good stop the wheel and Zeus
stop
No, no, no, I was on Zeus. No, I'm well this game is just random. Well, this is a great now
You know what dude who made oh my god again the month. I got it. Hey guys, okay nice
Dude, I did not feel like we did well, I won't lie.
That was like atrocious.
Five minutes, well that's heckin' bad.
Six minutes, we're doing good.
Oh my god, that did worse than you.
I hate everyone that took part in making this.
This game's broken, this game's broken.
That's what I was feeling, but apparently all you have to do is read the rules a little bit more
and it might help a bit in getting through the questions quicker.
Yeah, I also forgot that like they record and make content because every time I do these. I'm just quiet just clicking
Super tryharding and then after that. I'm like, oh, that's why I'm not in the edit
I said nothing funny. Nothing interesting. I just kind of kicked it. Yeah
I think you're doing the minigames
I'm just joking to you're always giving us a lot of content a lot of fun
and definitely a lot of information about LGD and Yandex here and the fact that you guys have worked but also played in multiple grand finals
You've been in positions of either 2-0 up or 0-2 and down
And there's a big shift that has to happen now when we look towards a game number three. There definitely is I hope that LGD has used this break
Well, it's really important to be able to reset and to honestly this game is not about draft
I don't like the series about is about draft either. I think it's not that often that finals are about draft
I think for the most part finals are about confidence and every once in a while they're about draft
But to me, I think they definitely could have won that last game. Is it the easiest thing ever?
I don't know
But I don't really care either because they didn't lose for that reason they lost because they're scared
And I hope that they went outside and talked to each other and figured that out and that they come back a week for this next game
But you can still apply a little bit of Jaffa logic because I think the reason why they are in the grand finals is because their
Playstyle their tempo their confidence has been cushioned by the idea
They've all subscribed to like certain heroes function in a certain way being kind of the underdog having the weird heroes that makes people go
Wait, what you've got a grim or a spirit breaker or this or that like I think that is their identity
And like when you look at these lineups
It's like I get why they've picked timber in the first phase
But also like Beastmaster was available a hero that has allowed you to qualify to multiple tournaments
Maybe not win them
But you suddenly ignore it and it's later phase badly
I still think that draft is very important for them as it has been like compared to other teams
They've leaned on it more than their play like the drafts helped them play very well
They're unlike the and it's gonna have a bad draft and still win the game
LGD with a bad draft they sometimes struggle to win the game
There's always that carry out of how long of a day LGD have had for themselves as well
But you have to dig deep right because this is their last chance to be able to have some competition
And to be able to fight back in the grand finals because with the index to own up heading into a game number three drafts
Big questions around around how LGD are gonna bounce back for themselves
LGD and Yandex have had the time for a break and fit.
Yandex when you win two games in a row it feels like there isn't a lot necessarily to learn from it
You just got to stick true to your guns and what I loved about sucks is small interview between games
Was he noted you can't get carried away and you can't play or draft thinking that you're only one game away
You have to still think about it as if it's just the beginning
You can't get too overconfident here
Otherwise you might do things like living about right it through and so far
they've banded out twice in game one and game two on the side of yandex and
honestly that's the big one when we talk about what LGD's comfort and hero
foundations could potentially come from. I think going into this next one I think
as soon as yandex has a band available they slam the back band so quickly that
it sends a message back to LGD like you are not getting your hands on this hero.
Yeah I think they have no intentions of giving it away not in the slightest.
Come on, please.
I think they're doing it.
But like, if they are to do it, it needs to...
I want to see, like, oh, you bait the backpick
and then you have, like, a million dispels,
a million ways to, like, punish the hero,
but, again, I think for simplicity
and the sake of this Grand Finals and how Yandex are playing,
they don't need to try and play against it.
They're not in a drafting situation where the Grand Finals
are kind of slipping away from them.
They are very much controlling the narrative
of all three drafts so far.
I'm sorry. Well, maybe three. I mean, just pulled it up. But maybe three. LGD are going
to be the first first picks in this game. Number three, Ben there. And that's a going
back to what game number one had on offer. And so we're seeing it now. LGD want to take
out the doom, which they have not done so far in this series. Of course, it did get
let through in game number two. It did. Well, shut down a lot of what they want to get done
themselves and timber it's very reactionary yeah i think all this is very reactionary i don't think
it's it's really based on sound reason i think it's what we lost to do and we didn't know to do a
edge banner but they did that last game we need to profit and we saw how that went so i think it's
the bands do not bode well i would say they're also going down the path of play draw lose draw next
game they ban draw against themselves and then they pick timber they lose with timber next game
they ban against themselves has zero meaning i'm not adding this drop panel at all just a weird line
of logic that LGD has used? It is a reactionary to the previous game, but then I don't want
them to forget what happened in game one, right? Yes, they still lost even though they
took out the cuddle and the Nages profit in game two after game one, but I still do worry.
Are you willing to let those in the pool? It feels like right now the heroes that LGD
aren't comfortable either playing with or against are stacking up and it's almost an insurmountable
amount. Yeah, luckily they do have two bands in the next phase. I think that's where the
Nages profit, those types of heroes will be banned.
If they are to respect Keeper of Light, I think this is the position for it.
But yeah, they actually put Nages profit into this ban, okay?
So Dryoran drew in the pool their first pick. I would imagine they're eyeing it.
We'll see if Yennex chooses to give it away.
That is probably their most likely first pick, I'd say.
The bird is the word, still in the pool too.
Have they even played Koro at this event? I don't think they have.
I don't think so either, and it's crazy because DuelCorp is a caudal spammer.
Like, when he's playing pubs, this guy plays caudal every game, so it's insanely weird to me to have him touch it,
because he is, like, every game he's playing caudal.
Yeah, well, I guess if there was ever a time to showcase a hero, it would be, you know, now, especially with how dominant people like can be.
With the healing, the sustain, the... just the map play, elements of success that LGD, of course, we always present for.
The hero to team combination, it makes sense.
Okay, a surprise that we haven't seen it from them.
I just hope it's not a play like Seb type situation, because I think whenever you're getting told to play a hero because
the enemy team's playing it and they think it's really good and it's not like an inwardly driven thing,
you're like, no, I think this is good, then I think it can be really worrisome going into
any game really. You don't want to be sort of goaded into playing something. They're going to steal a treat,
which is not so much a steal and be played at themself plenty, so I don't mind this so much because it's something
they're comfortable on. It's they're not done doing anything particularly weird.
They're just picking hero that they like.
But this is where I saw in the previous draft, I really wanted the LGD to respond with Beastmaster to the tree.
Your second pick reflects it to the very end of your draft.
Into the tree in lane, you can just walk there with like axes if you want to kill the trees.
So it doesn't have all these like little parthing shenanigans, the invis to utilize.
And we'll see if the Andex are to go for it themselves, but...
In tree.
We've seen what Malady has done in two games in a row.
The vision, the bat play, all the enabling.
There's no kind of negatives I feel like to this hero.
See if Yennex can find any.
Historically against this hero, the carries are good against it and scaling.
He's not high damage at all, he's super low damage, so if you can just purge off his ulti,
then in the mid game the hero doesn't offer too much because none of his spells do damage really.
He's very much a setup hero and an early lane hero, vision hero, but I, yeah.
So it's possible Yennex look for something along the hard carry route to play against it,
or maybe they have other answers.
I mean, Lone Druid is still in the pool.
This is what I wanted.
The last time it was left there, both of them ignored it,
and it was second-faced ban, and so it still didn't get picked up.
And I think that's ultimately what Yandex are considering right now.
Yeah, what is that hard carry like you guys questioned?
But did you want it to be the Lone Druid?
You won't get it in the next phase.
Yes, I did.
Lone Druid, there's SF, there's still like Keds.
There was so many options in the pool,
but that is where two teams, of course, in the grand finals,
they kind of create their own mini-metre of what's available in the index.
Taking the SF here, I am expecting Madadi to out a phase.
Do you want to re-pick your 5-out a phase and perfectly show the SF lane?
Or do you just want to go with the hoodwinks, the rubics, the random Saksa hero because
it progresses the draft to get more information?
You're expecting LGD now to take clock tusk and the next 2 mealy bros after the tree unless
I'm missing one more melee burr
There's none that come to mind off the top of my head
Yeah, it's very possible. They just picked the four here here and wait a little bit on malady
It's a bit surprising to me. They picked shadow fiend against tree
I think in a lot of ways it is pretty good because you're very naturally by math a pike things like this
So you can kite you don't care about the overgrowth because it's not super solid lockdown
You can move around a little bit
At the same time though, I don't know why you don't just take laundry here. They have some rationale
I think maybe towards they feel like LGD has answers to it if they're leaving it
What's CJ's SF like? What's SF in mid-lap this patch? Anyway, it's kind of bad.
So this is just a pseudo, you don't really actually think about flexing here.
It's kind of scary.
Well, I'm trying to think about that reasoning.
Because bottom is also, okay, LGD don't ban a lone druid, and now I want a Yandex. You have one
ban, is it the dry you take out, which we know has been able to have a good advantageous carry
matchup against an SF, or is it the lone druid bluff again that you need to keep forward checking
I think you just keep going down this this bluff with like SF into laundry SF with items you can just kill the bear and
I will assume that Janix will start preparing heroes that can play into the map make these moves also
You know the enigma is still in the pool that DM would love to play into the laundry
So if there is a world where LGD, you know snap picks LD like you know here plus one there's a response also in play
So both teams are kind of
Assuming that you know what you're not going to take the hero. We don't need to respect it
And they do take the cuddle on the side of the Andex.
I mean that is, that's never bad, genuinely.
This cuddle here was crazy, and it's really good with Shadowfiend.
You can make really like strong structural team fights, or Shadowfiend is standing in
front and just hitting, and you've got the cuddle behind blasting heals, and it becomes
very difficult to actually deal with the turret, because oftentimes the best way to deal with
turret lineups is you just jump this guy and kill him, but when he's got all this heal
behind him, it's hard to actually bring him down, so the heroes, even though you don't
do anything with Chakra, the heroes have some pretty nice synergies and you get to mid-game.
It also means that your offlane won't break under any pressure because Keeper will shove the wave,
so now it's like your SF needs to chill top. Your offlane will chill bottom
and it kind of gives CJ a bit more freedom where it's like, okay, I don't have to help my side lanes.
My last pick in the draft can just be an honest 1 vs 1, I beat Tylong with a counter pick.
You are kind of setting the foundation of stopping LGD, getting the early laning set up.
I mean, a minute 20 on reserve time already.
Yeah, roughly even.
Yanix used quite a bit of time on their ban too, so they're not, this draft isn't cooked
by any means.
I think Yanix are picking things to make a lot of sense, but it's not, it's not hit
some point where, oh they're fried.
This is fine.
There's still plenty of heroes out there that LGD can drop themselves to ANSA and SF
column.
For sure.
This is no, it's not like the Largo Alchemist versus Doom game.
Nothing like that. Okay, so they are going for Darkseer.
I get Electral, SF, both of these carries, I mean, they're very different.
Electral doesn't like getting jumped on top of, and then SF of course, you play more for the clone.
So this is Darkseer, we'll be looking to try and wall him.
SF can itemize to not have all these stat items, but it's just uncomfortable,
but there is some like Silver Edge style build that, you know, inter-daidless,
of course not just those two items, but you can never get away from the stats against Darkseer.
It is a classic counter though. It's very good. I think it has the potential to run
at people like you've got Spirit Breaker, Darkseer. If you're not, I mean you've got
triple nailing. I don't want triple nailing. I'm not super fond of that, but I think it
has the opportunity at least to run at Yandex and to up the tempo, which I think is amazing.
So even while I don't think in terms of objective value, I don't think it's incredible. I love
it for them and I love it in this game. I really did not want to see that go ever.
Again, in the ground finals, but a position 5 logo, if it ever was to be a thing, if you go into that lane and just lick the darksir,
stop the spirit breaker charge, like you fully break that aggression and then what's a more free farm?
Do I think they'll suddenly try and put that hero to 5 position? No, but maybe there's another, you know, dispell here they can find, like an enchantress or something, if they want to go simple.
But they go for the try and test in Bane instead.
Just having nightmare and just trying to give spacing for the Shadowfiend.
If you step up on a Darkseer, you nightmare him, invite the SFO over level 3, you hit like a triple raise, that guy probably will die, so it is going to be a nice little pick to make sure that SFO is confirmed.
You also can't really cut creeps anymore, it's one of the other reasons why this combo is so disgusting is cutting waves or just shadowfiend is super chill, and you just can't do it versus Bane because he sleeps you and then that's that, so LGD is going to have their work cut off for him in the offlane for sure.
I'm dying keeper or like that is gonna be like the case illuminates throw a tombstone in even a bane might twin gate at some point
But yeah, you got to find a carry that wants to fight into
Or maybe not even fight to survive this because like fighting into this is maybe close to impossible
Like if gyrocopter was in the meta, then you'd kind of go for this type of hero
Just full shut the wave of flak
I don't even want to go near it like you block the hard camp you shut the wave you pull small
It's like you're chilling things
Yuma doesn't need to hear it to be in the meta to play it and to look good on it.
So I'm not saying he's gonna go that.
I'm just saying sometimes you're gonna have the unexpected as the expected.
This is a... It's not great against Kotal.
He's super good at pushing out the waves and blinding like your illusions.
And I also don't know if it's even that good against him dying.
In some ways it is. If you get the mid game, it's definitely got some pizzazz.
You can push the waves and deal with the tombstone.
And there's a lot of things there that are pretty cool.
But in the early game, you're gonna get gigaspammed by decay plus chakra. That is a nasty combo
You just get mega spammed like crazy. So I am I'm a bit worried. It's also quadruple melee
So you're gonna have some serious issues with damage and clumping especially into decay into tombs down. There's there's some problems arising
Not only that it's like I think this even could be a world where DM takes like soul rip
But at level 2 and plays for like just a burst damage illuminate plus the rip
I can't disappear.
I agree with Quinn, it's like lane is awkward, early game awkward.
Eventually Nugget will present the map play and the punishment that will kind of enable this pick-off style of game,
where Spirit Breaker was the charge on the vision tree, we'll set it up.
There is like a light at the end of the tunnel for LGD, but it's not from laning dominance, that's for sure.
They really need Tylong to pretty much crush the mid lane and then go and poke his head to the side lanes.
I mean, if we look at their drafts beforehand, it hasn't relied on that, but they've been
playing that way.
That has been something they've played through, and now at least their draft looks like it's
enabled by that.
Yeah.
I hope that Tylong gets to play something comfortable here.
I'm something that fits this sort of gung-ho.
Let's just get it, because I think that's what their heroes do so far.
I'm a bit torn on whether it's supposed to melee or range, because five melee is kind
of crazy.
But at the same time, generally the melee mids are the best ones with Darkseer, because
you can utilize Ion Shaw a lot better.
So I'm not totally sure what he wants to play here, but...
I mean, he's still picking blind as well, so you need to pick a hero that can enable
your draft, but doesn't invite CJ to find a hard counter, right?
You have to walk this very fine line.
Emberben is good for them.
Could have also been good for LGD, and maybe they feel like the counters are too strong.
This is of course where LGD, they go for the Zeus, they keep the map alive with the Nagasire,
They hold their base until an hour and a half.
They get the baubles, you know?
See it, we've asked for it one time.
And you're asking for it again already.
I'm just gonna be greedy in the fact
that this could potentially be the last game.
So it's probably the only time that you wanna ask for it,
you know, so.
I respect that.
It's no rule, even influence on the draft.
It's inter, I mean, to be fast, you enter SF,
you ult him, nimbus him with Kayak's, like he's half HP.
He's gonna need like a satanic.
You've already got the midi bros up front.
Okay, they banned it.
Damn it, Yandex.
They're in the zone.
They are locked in.
It's a good ban, genuinely.
I don't think this hero's very good,
but I think it's a really good Zeus game.
And I think it shows the level of awareness
Yandex is at, right?
They're not worried about anything else.
They're looking at their screens
and they're thinking about Dota.
That's all you want to be doing, right?
And they see that their heroes,
they see that LGD needs some damage,
they need probably a ranged hero,
and they ban a hero that just makes a lot of sense
because they're thinking clearly, and in the moment.
I just hope LGD goes like crazy.
I want like the Thailand bristles, the Thailand razors.
I want some like real, weird, wacky hero,
but you just full send, like you got spray break,
you got darks here.
I just wanna see like the chaos across the map.
Okay, real, a normal, stable storm through it,
but I mean, I don't mind it.
Of course, and to look down the index half,
it is, I mean, very good, normally in that regard.
I am just worried about the damage, because Storm wants to connect with the other people doing it
and we've already said that the side lanes of Yandex are going to be strong,
but breaking into the mid game, the shove of the Nagosir and the pick of potential Storm and Threatbreaker,
there's a lot of life to LGD's mid-to-late game.
They're still kind of worried about the lanes.
I'm not sure what CJ wants here.
A lot of the classic Coddle combos are either banned or stolen in the Storm Spirit.
Ember's out, his invoker that was cooking throughout this whole tournament is out, pucks out.
Um, there's Void Spirit, but I am careful to say his name, so let's just be summing up.
See, he's like, horrendous this tournament. I'm not, I don't actually don't know what he wants.
Wow.
That is, I mean, I would say Yennex's lineup is, uh, very clunky.
Um, none of their cores really have any kill threat or pair with each other very much.
It's a lot on Bane's shoulders to do stuff.
At the same time, they have really strong lanes and they have a lineup that's very good at balling versus a lineup that is very bad at dealing damage.
They have four melee heroes and a pretty low damage in general versus a lot of heals.
And so I think while the NXL lineup is kind of one-dimensional, I think it's a one-dimension that can work really well in this game.
Yeah, you are going to be looking at just the efficiencies of how un-dying death profit just bring life to so many objectives through tower pressure or rush into a mental like these heroes can do it.
Even with SF not even taking into account, you throw that into the mix as well.
It is just a scary just line up post-signing phase.
So for LGD, you have to respect the lanes.
You need to at least go even, and you need to make sure that when you take a fight, it is the correct fight.
Because if you make one mistake in this game, I think you're chasing items, you're chasing damage,
you're kind of hoping to stay alive rather than actually, you know, controlling the game.
Because Yandex like DP into like Storms and Puxies type of heroes that you just stand your ground mid,
you press XO, you invite your team, you take his tower.
Like you break the map quite early and it hurts like these active midlaners that want to be running around the map, you know, playing on active runes.
Yeah, if I'm LGD, honestly, who gives a hoot about the draft, you just, you need, I want to see them play.
I think that's the most important thing, not just for this tournament and their chances here, but their chances in the future.
These are important reps that you want to seize the moment on and understand that the game, the series is not over.
The game is not over. Wake up and play and have some passion and some oomph and some of that flair and magic we've seen from LGD throughout the rest of the tournament.
Don't go out with a whimper, but with a bang.
I mean, they have the heroes to utilize to kite.
The reason why they got to the Grand Finals was beating BB,
kiting out this Terribler, like putting Keratich on the back foot the entire time.
They have the heroes that can do that.
They can make space in military, they can search back with the Darkseer,
they can song disengage with an Agassar and that.
They have the tools to threaten Yandex.
It's just they need to do it at the mid game once they've overcome that hurdle of Yandex.
Because if they do it, again, too early, they might fumble.
But if they do it at the right time, if they show that kind of teamfight brilliance
that they have throughout this tournament,
then they can potentially take this game three.
Oh yeah, if you take out whatever draft integrity you try and throw towards these two teams at the end of the day,
I look at LGD's draft for a game three and I love the player-to-hero combination.
It looks fantastic, but the index right now being two games up,
you can't disagree with the fact that they are just looking sharper.
For now, we're going to head on over to Ray, who's standing by with both of the coaches.
Yes, I am here for this game number three with CAFs and Axel, thank you very much.
Now CAFs, your team came in here, you're the underdogs, you've done so well and now
your backs are against the wall.
What are you guys planning on doing here to turn this around?
I mean, I think we still have some energy in the tank, we've got nothing to lose and
I think we can we can show up and bring up a fight still we have not given up and
I think these drafts we have something
Like very much our style. So let's see what happens
Yeah, and on your half you guys have been so strong and so dominant even do you have you felt threatened the oldest tournament?
Yeah, we always try to stay humble remind ourselves like we can lose to anyone win anyone
So, yeah, pretty much.
OK.
And in this crucial moment, you know,
regardless of the outcome, do you feel like you gave it your all?
Are you proud of yourself and the boys for getting this far?
Of course, right?
Like, nobody expected this.
We knew we could go further, but like,
being here in the finals, it's like a dream, you know?
First ever for South America in a tier one tournament.
So, like, we've done a lot already.
And I mean, looking at this, you know?
It is amazing, and we are all super proud of you guys.
Now, Axel, moment of truth.
Is this the draft that's going to win you the Bloss trophy?
Hopefully.
Let's find out.
Thank you very much to Alex Hand, of course,
Captain Axel, getting ready for this game three.
And, yeah, humble there with the draft.
I think the draft's pretty good again, folks, right?
They've managed to get a situation where they've had a lot of melee heroes picked into them, and I think they're quite happy about that.
They've got a Deaf Prophet, an SF, and an Undying.
They love the melee heroes. Let's see how it plays out, see if we're going to get LGD.
Give us a chance to push us to a game fourth.
Authenticity to W3-0 for Yandex.
Game three, it's ready to start!
Here we go, so talk to me about this, what do you think we can hype up here from the
draft of LGD?
Because there are two rough games and partly down to potentially some kind of misses in
the drafts.
Sure, I would say overall right, this is a draft that can scale.
It absolutely can, it can get to these later stages and it is up there Ali and Ty Lung
is playing on one of these more pop off heroes than I think me.
I want you to see this. That's the one thing I'm making at least and we're getting there right we are lago weren't it the slaughter
I was a little bit more it but still wasn't it and now on the storm this can be it yeah
And they stole the tree right I was I was wanting them to do so either ban the tree or do something along those lines
So they are looking for solutions now the concerns like you said quad melee into undying it death profit shadow feed
It does seem like a very strong core picks coming out from the side of the index and kind of the tables have turned
They're the ones that are going to be setting massive tempo base on the side of yandex looking to win the lanes and
Kind of looking to snowball off of that because this is why we've seen this death profit versus the spirits in the past
To we've seen a couple different players kind of pop off on it and this could be one of those games very good yule's game
I think that was the build that we saw the last time on the DP and it looked
Pretty damn good and you just play versus spirit breaker and storm
So it does look like it can't fit that archetype and let's see this this is going to be the big question for me
it's how do you mind door because it is a tree plus a Naga versus an undying coddle so that span
that's going to come out seems like a tough line yeah if they get double decayed which is very likely
it could just be huge problems for them and speaking of problems whisper
I think he's going to be going down and only the Watson as well so yeah first blood in for the
carrot can you hear anything because I sure cannot we're not getting any orders but I made the streamers
Hope for the streamers, but I got no I got no game sounds for the moment
I just want to make sure the stream is the hero did you guys on here now home will be able to sort that yep
You feel so yeah
Let's see how this fan ends up coming in because it's pretty quick and a lot of times when I've seen a melee hero
I'm gonna play versus the undying. It's complicated a lot of these melee agis you get put so low HP early on it
You're gonna be like a 350 HP hero and so rip chunks massively so I'm looking at LGD
They could get crushed in the lanes and let's see what they can do to recover that
So why do you think they did go for the naga siren for humor? What did they see with this hero?
I think it's just a late game scaling and overall eventually like out of the lanes
You don't care about a dying eventually right you're just playing a complete different type of game
What's it just about to get himself another kill he is so that's already two kills here for the safe lane SF
And when SF gets kills look at his soul zone. It's one minute in he already has 70 damage
good look last thing again it's back sorry 78 now because he hit in a level
two so well Watson's gonna be quite happy with the setup down here I think
they're designed to ID it like probably win the two lanes the top lane is the
question mark for me if they're gonna be able to endure on KJ and Yuma but it
does look like Yankees put themselves in a position to do very well across the
board here in this early game well let's see what time one can do because he's
pretty great on these mid laners and just getting kind of random kills also
to this one does feel like one of the harder matchups. Yeah, because it's one of those
matchups as well where you have to be careful if you're going to try and get aggressive
and push for those kills because as soon as the siphons come out, suddenly the the play
is getting turned around. So you might have to hold back a little bit and in the matchup
title. A couple of times I've seen this Darkseer
Spearbreaker picked versus the shadow team to put the pressure onto them, but not when
there's a bane next to him. I think Bane kind of solves the problem that can't be there
of just getting running up ran on top of from a Darkseer Spearbreaker. And now I mean, I
He's training training really nicely. Yeah, but even to the sleep. They might just get the kill. Oh, surely not
All that free kills for the shadow thing 90 ready to medicine 94 damage already. Oh my goodness
Telling you Watson. He could have not kind of dreamt of a better ground finals this morning for himself
He had an easy game on the nature's profit easy game on the T8
And he might just be setting himself up to have an easy game on an SF
dream start for him
And Malady it's still level one on the spearbreakers who can play like a boss just standing in front of them
He's got the brain seven looking at the lineup to from Yandex not only is there a very pressure-based early draft and look for
This tempo setting it's an insane amount of healing on it
Kato blast undying soul rips death profit even this individual heal for the brain suffer one hero
All of that will add up
He's doing a lot. He might have no he's gonna be fine. He gets the kill
and whisper careful whisper what oh my oh dear okay case they get mad at me but
Watson 4 0 1 with three minutes in that's pretty excessive he is beating
the game clock on close I think they need to stop feeding the SF I believe so
owns KJ maybe you just stay down here they're gonna do is they have to try and
kill him or something. Do you try and bring heroes down here to kill him or do you have
to just sort of bring less heroes here so he's not having a chance to kill you?
Blood grenade to cancel the south, that's nice and annoying there from KJ. I don't know
if you're going to be able to kill him at this point. I mean Malady's doing so much
on the bay. He's like yeah you take away my tree and it's fine. I'm going to show you
what I can do with the bane and he's just destroying this lane with these aggressive
Bane plays
He's playing with like the fairy fire ready pushing the limits at this point. They can't go back bottom
I think whisper you have to fold down all right
You can feel you try to figure out where you can charge with that lane is just fire
It's just a strong that they've got a lock in so hard, right?
You've just had two rough games as LGD, and this is how the third games bottom lane is starting off for you
At top lane, I feel like this lane just it does get kind of hard for you
But just stand around you because every time he starts the case
This is a low HP hero in the early game. They hurt these decays these solvents
Could just even get pop another patch. He's got charge. He's got charge charge. Oh
Well survived, but they're getting completely pushed out of the lane
We'll be able to get one creepier perhaps
They at Watson all three core set up for success here. Yeah, midlands going very nicely for cheer at junior 27 and 12
Well, again, 18-6.
Level 3 Siphon.
Tylung is down for the play.
There's another Siphon at the ready.
A charge is coming in.
He gets him.
He gets him without.
Oh, Tylung!
Did he had a Blood Grenade?
Did he not?
I think Tylung also had a Blood Grenade,
and I think that pushed it over the edge there on the DP.
That little extra slow for the Remnant 2.
Holy crap.
I don't think I've ever seen a Storm kill a DP like that.
There we go. They'll be able to punish Malibu.
It's been quite an eye year for Whisper, but Whisper brings his friends over.
Has the two supports help deal with the bane this time?
Tylung. Getting chased here from Sokso will be able to grab the wave. Doesn't have to worry about it.
Alright, that was cool. Blood grenade coming out from the midlaner.
That's something you see too often.
Especially not in a storm. Look at an invoker, sure. But not in a storm? That was cool.
Now they're gonna need Tylung to pop off pretty hard. We'll see you down here.
And look here, they have Vulneran, right?
So that static remnant actually is able to connect,
perhaps because of all this extra little bit of slow.
That actually will change how far it clicked.
Alright.
I'm just gonna be happy with that one.
Tylan.
They need him to pop off.
What the heck is this?
Hold on, double one!
Wait, what?
Ah, back in the mid!
Tylan has it, six.
Sorry, sir.
He's healing up.
I got the nightmares.
What the heck is he doing?
He acts the same!
What?!
KJ will go down.
Tylong does have Solring.
He should be okay here.
No catapult for the mid wave, but...
We'll be able to put a lot of pressure here anyway.
They're free-forming in all three lanes on.
I mean...
It's the S... I mean, if you want to look at the first three...
This is crazy.
Look at that net worth.
4,000 net worth at 6,000.
Oh boy.
I mean, absolutely insane here.
If he get, is he gonna get the Swistim in the battle?
He has Requiem, he's so high level.
He can just go and Requiem the...
Tyla doesn't have TP either, so he can't make his way down, see how aggressive lots
of them are.
I mean, what's he surely gonna wanna try and fight?
Before how safe is he gonna play?
Oh, he's fighting it.
Maybe he expects there's a lot coming.
He's fighting it for sure.
Oh.
Requiem's up the...
Oh, okay.
Okay, Jay.
We're gonna see King Jungles.
Oh, okay.
They're gonna see King jungles. They'll get both shrines. On top of a triple lane win, they will be able to get the shrine.
But Tai Lung, as we said, he did at least get that kill, will be able to get a couple galvanized stacks.
Let's see how much they can enable it. It feels like all the pressure in this early game, it's on Tai Lung.
Because Nagasai, this isn't a hero where you go and you're like, guys, I'm gonna help you out? No.
This is a hero that you need to sit back and farm and you tell your team, guys, you need to make space for me.
But the moment he is like guys, I'm not gonna be able to do anything that to human is gonna be like I don't want to do anything
So yeah, Tyler's like well, I guess it's all on me. Yeah
Majority of this early pressure is gonna be on him until the Dom leader comes up for whisper as well
malady
Dodge is the charge at the sleep and here comes Watson time to run away. I think if you're LGD, I'm there attempting to fight back
Whisper, he's gonna be dead now. I'm still alive. They didn't even kill the babe
They will fight and kill it, but Watson's getting so much his 6-0-3.
I've never seen an SF with this type of kill, but it's in his part of almost every single kill.
And it gave him 3 of a grand finals.
Is that Watson? He is absolutely over the moon right now.
Level 8, nearly level 9.
Absolutely insane performance from him.
4k lead.
We've said they're draft, it's fast, but I don't even know if they anticipated this fast.
Pressure on all the towers here already.
Top can they set up for DM?
Oh, here we go.
They don't have damage.
Yeah, then I'll kill him.
No, he's just gonna turn.
Yep, time to run away.
Their damage is pretty lackluster, especially with things going this wrong.
It's only the Storm Spirit who's gonna be dealing that early damage until this level 4.
I on-shelf with the Darkseer, so...
Yeah, I'll try for DM, but this is what seems to be.
He's got heals.
Gonna try again here.
I'm not trying.
I'll get with the 4 of them.
It's gonna be another big decay, Theo LaCour's dead,
Thailand's gotta get out.
It looks like he's low, but he actually has more HP than Spirit Breaker,
when he's at 1 quarter HP.
An easy game to get the decays out for sure.
And he has Caudal.
Well, they picked into it.
Yeah, Quad Melee plus he has a Caudal,
so that was actually a double decay too to just use him up.
And this build, I actually quite like this.
I haven't seen the Dominator, I think, at least on this one dying.
Oh man, no Watson.
Hey, you know what, I'm gonna say he's casually double the net worth.
of any of the cores of LGD.
This is unbelievable start here for them at early aggressive wards.
Again, like they do every single time from the side of Yandex and these tier 1s.
Ready, Jeopardy, super early here. They do not have the heroes to defend them.
They're showing them how to kick up 10-pump.
They're like, LGD, you wanted to play a fast game last time?
You didn't really do so. We'll show you how it's done.
Absolutely seeing that right now.
Chirra, they're gonna try to hold in to kill off the Death Prophet.
It's got stick fairy, it's enough damage.
Bring in the squad.
It takes a lot.
We get something.
You have to do it at this point, right?
You have to be able to bring in four or five heroes to go for these ghosts with your limited
damage in the draft.
Oh, but KJ did get the last hit.
Okay, that's a bit unfortunate.
I need to give every single kill to the cores at this point.
Do you just try and sort of block the SF out of your mind right now if you're LGD, just forget about it?
You can't do anything about it, so you know what, you know what?
You want to lose morale by thinking about the fact that there's an SF getting freefall on the other side of the map
and it's kind of double the net worth for your carry.
Maybe they just got to try and forget about them and hope for the best.
the best. I think their best type of plays is literally just running as a
four-man unit with Ion Shell and going for plays like that at this point and
let Yuma try to get space. I don't really see another option to come back in
this type of game because their draft is pretty designed
around late game, early game, it's quite weak especially as we're seeing here.
I like the big dreams here from three of the clubs. What's that? I'm gonna go phase A-7.
That is not a good sign. That is not a good sign if we're seeing that queued up.
And Chirra, yep, doing the same build that we saw them do the other dead, going for the
Eul's, gonna have it very early here.
Super nice, you know, the protective end for aggressive, he has Double Siphon up, they're
bringing the numbers.
Chirra can get it.
Back up some away for Chirra, Junior.
The charge comes in, can they save him?
Back up, comes out of the three of them, they'll get it.
But once it's turned off, it's gonna be a kill whisper again.
He's got to sacrifice themselves, but I think this is kind of what they have to do, just
run around like this as long as they can get most of the cores out.
This is very difficult to say what they can do here.
Oh, at the end he finds a dream creep when you're playing versus a lineup that has limited
damage and it's reliant on an ion shell.
They can purge him off.
There's a very, very strong creep for this game.
KJ level 5, Theo still 5 as well.
Whisper, he's just running.
They're just running to play with the Iron Shell.
Okay.
What's going on?
He's going to go towards Saksa.
He should be able to kill the goblins.
They're losing two heroes for it now.
Yeah, and they can't kill DM, so they have to get out.
And DM, he is, yeah, he just immediately purges the Darkseer as he's surging in.
It doesn't actually purge the creep.
The creep damage is there on top of Sausage, but...
It looks pretty unkillable.
Yeah, and then at the moment, on the Sun dying...
Farm's very fast too.
And this was a blind pick, right?
So they blind picked it versus their carry.
And it's still having this very, very good start here.
I've still gotta wait and see what the Naga Siren's gonna be able to do,
because, you know, you'd imagine, right, with the way it was picked,
it wasn't picked to win the lane, and it didn't.
So it must have been picked for some other reason down the line.
They do have ways to song, reset, run away from Death Profit or song, kill Tombstone.
So there is merits of course to this Naga Pit.
It's just got to get there and when you're this far behind, even getting there.
So this means the Yenix is going to be in the same position still to fight.
It's probably watching.
It's going to break records, it feels like on the show.
I mean, yeah, these are going to be the quicksand timing.
Every one of them.
Every timing he gets.
Dragon Lance, Mantre.
Yeah.
3-14 minutes, level 13 at the 13 minute mark, also.
Yeah, he's absolutely good.
Like this is literally, yeah, record breaking stuff here from Watson on the same plan SF.
No doubt about it.
Set up for success from his team.
KJ, looking to steal the wisdom perhaps here.
Let's actually get it.
So they're gonna get double wisdoms.
Alright, so not too shabby.
Needs level 6 as well too for that tree.
Yandex though, maximizing. Another massive stack coming out here from Soxa.
Continue to look to enable boost up DM, whose item timings...
He is going to go some of these oras. I do think that they are going to look to press the issue pretty hard here on the side of Yandex
and do the objective gaming that, as we said last game, that LGD wanted to do, right?
Take the tower, you take everything, don't let Noggin storm get to the place where you can fight.
Yuma does not want to fight any time soon.
And the pipe is fantastic versus the storm in the dark sea, which is all the damage at this point that is going to be coming out from LGD.
Now the charge this time just for information.
Now it's gotten much more difficult for them to just 5 men for one of these 4 kills, especially Chira, now that he has the ULs.
Has a way to just put himself in the air, get multiple Scythians out, or just prevent a hero.
Tylung did seem to go arcane boots this game. I had a feeling it was going to be because of that silence.
So Yi is going down the greed's route.
Okay.
That's something we've seen before from some of these stones.
Yep.
And it's more than earlier timing that you can fight around perhaps.
Cheer up.
Can they all end up?
I mean it's good blast, they all get it.
Couple times they've been able to punish your positioning here.
Doesn't have backup, they have a defensive ward.
Doesn't get their yules off on the Spirit Breaker too.
They'll kill going the way of humor on top of that so...
Most important one.
Money here for the Naga Siren.
Starting to stabilize the game a little bit, you know, as I said, the SF are still, you know, they don't really want to talk about the SF.
Outside of that, they're like, we're slowing things down.
It's four deaths, son.
Is that gonna be sad?
It is four deaths, son. Cheer up.
Those absolutely do add up.
It's not a hero that you do want to lose too much momentum on, even if you do have this massive of a Shadow Fiend.
Leo?
It's just gonna TP straight out.
No range for the ULs.
They're making the moves happen. They're splitting things up, getting space for Yuma.
Watson, Manta, gonna go Lothar's, Shadowblade.
So he's gonna look to get very involved, because right now, Watson has slowed down a little bit in terms of how much he's getting into fights.
But he's gonna look to fight every single time when he does have that picked up deal. Just giving him a fall.
They're slowing it down.
They are slowing it down.
Yuma's getting the space. He's going to get some clever places to get the farm too, so not being as obvious to get caught from anything here from the side of Yandex.
Still a very large golden experience lead.
But have tools to fight around now. They have the Darkseer with level 12. They have Greaves.
So they do have this combo if they do run at them.
It is max vacuum now too also, so they can look to fight around that if they'd like to.
Perhaps Whisper waits for the Overlord, and then they can look for another one of those
five man plays, try to catch the DP off guard, but Chira, more of a defensive posture now,
not playing on the enemy side.
But does that stuff really hurt?
Absolutely, you know, does slow down a bit of that momentum that they were getting the
chance to sort of come at LGD with.
If they hadn't given Wattson 8 kills, right, look at the network, it wouldn't be bad.
It wouldn't be bad by any means.
That's what I'm saying, they just gotta kind of forget about the other stuff.
And then look at the positives.
Because they have got a lot of positives outside what happened on the bottom lane.
DM, this is a bit of a tough cartag to go for here.
Too much damage, cannot TP out.
That is the pipe, gonna be finished, his courier is dead though, so it's not gonna be coming out soon.
Roche, the next threat.
Feels like Yandex can't force the fight there, and I don't really know if,
sure they can fight in perhaps some specific scenarios on the side of LGD, but
a 5v5 engagement at this point, perhaps not.
KJ?
So you were gonna, okay, I was gonna say that's a very aggressive play if he does go for that there.
They're hunting him.
They're gonna bring in the bang to try and mess with him.
It's got song and he's probably just gonna tip you right
Can you get out though melody? Oh, he's gonna have a pretty nasty surprise
It's a pain there and the pain is gonna be able to stop the TP
Why do you not see if he's sooner?
What was he trying to check for I don't know if you saw the man right?
I think he's funny. I he should have perhaps because there was nothing else that was training him in rank like the cabri chin and stop him
From the two heroes that are around him right on dying. Yeah, I'm dying a car. Okay, so I this
That's fortunate for him
As he's starting to make the recovery, does overplay his hand there.
Sheer down bottom, gonna do it with this black dragon with the iron shell.
So it's already positioning itself down here to protect.
And even go for the kill on this, it's a lot of money.
Watson will come in and snag it. Thank you very much.
And the silver edge too, not specifically to break anything right this game,
but just to limit their movement speed. You cannot get surged.
You just get stuck in place also versus this.
And does that rush that they're looking to accelerate?
Don't even need to use the Exorcism. They can save it for the tier 2s.
And on the plus side, if they kill the SF, they're gonna get a lot of money.
That's a big infill. They have to fully surround them.
They have to have the wall on top of them.
So at least they do have that wall that will get stronger and stronger than the SF does.
But I imagine Watson he's not gonna build towards those like the butterflies and all that to make it that gigalusion
Dragon down bottom again whisper we'll get the tower Watson wants that money
Radiance career has been you get the silver edge so some time that he at least won't have the recipe but doesn't have the damage
More money. No money. No problems
Radiance structures are fought
The the gap has stayed the same. It has stayed the same.
Earlier we were having a deal.
Yuma was on like 4k net worth.
Sharon was on like 8 now.
You know 4k gold difference and it's still 4k gold difference between the two carries.
So the gap is growing.
Chira's the bottom of the chorus as well too.
He's falling off quite massively.
Pager.
Has it spotted.
I'm trying to ult. I'm seeding out.
Too much damage Chakra.
Ooh, another caught.
And let's see how they deal with the group up. That's the big question for me.
Because now I feel like Yandex with this Aegis, it's tier 2.
I'm in this area because Watson with all his farm and all his network right, he has been chilling on his side of the map.
Now he's ready to use that.
And you want to push and get involved with the team.
They're farmed, right? But Yuma's build is not really about fighting in a team fight, right?
He has an Orc in an event. It's about finding somebody and picking them off in the back lines.
Yeah, Yandex could absolutely just force the issue here.
here. See how much they do want to go for it though here. If they want to just go for
high ground, if they're going to go just take T2s and constrict the map. So see the option
that they can go for here. So you are 5-maning like this. The gold is going to start to shift
at least one more towards the side of the belt. You need to close in the gap in terms
The gold!
Flight potential?
Sick!
Ooh, Watson is hunting.
You're mine.
I didn't know that that was a real one because the way he set the double, Watson.
He's gonna see the helical.
Probably just auto-attacked him.
Let me close.
It's a little bit more.
He'll get out.
I should be speeding up to run.
Oh, it is?
Yeah, it is.
Getting space to name of the game for the side of LGD make space for Yuma
Gets the orchid but he's actually going through the portal so now he will be okay here
And unlike those other games too, right they do have a very good scale in draft the other games
They were definitely on a timer at this one this draft scales very hard as the game progresses toward the late stages
Snow Spirit plus that Darkseer illusion plus the Naga in general.
Chair Jr. Gauz had BKB now finished, Saksa.
Still catching.
Two big catches.
Yuma gets the last hit.
Carmina will go down.
Yuma.
Reaver's been picked up.
toward more items to be able to join a full fight potentially here. Watson will find another creep,
more money, and his silver edged is now done. So these heroes will get stuck in place even
the spirit breaker this next time isn't going to just be able to disengage. Theo's farm is doing
pretty good too to be honest though. Getting closer toward a BKB on the spirit breaker.
Not that many disables on the side of Yandex.
Winsper?
Setting up the creep, let's come again.
Malibu.
Winsper. Winsper's having to get the wall down.
Winsper gets out and won't be able to take the Aegis out of him.
And yeah, I'm also up to kill him a second time if DM's dead once it is gonna try and get the offer the interrupts
There with the box eggs
LTD
For you
Getting the chase forward here. I mean the other charge it's slowing down
They're winning fights here. They are killing off Watson like that and DM. He just came back to see sir
She bought back in I mean they're gonna put the ghost there
Okay, DM is looking a bit too tanky.
Yeah, time to back out now.
Yuma's gonna TP away.
I mean, just leave the fight like that.
They'll take that LGD.
They've got the Aegis out of the S of the Kill Watson.
The first time this game, it's a massive kill.
And Yuma got the last hit.
Yeah.
That's the big deal there.
That's essentially the reaver done for him.
They're gonna have the nine-meters to stuff the TP out for T.L.C.
And just have Charge back up.
He's getting out as well by LGD.
These are crazy moves.
moves and whisper in particular right just sending in the just the overlord creep getting that surge slowdown
Watson thought he was gonna get the last hit it wasn't the case whisper gets full health after they get the kills
And this is the thing right now that they had this lead jandex, but it really did stagnate
It stayed in this four to five k over lead sure wants them to steal it a step ahead in terms of fun
But they can kill him and these greaves honestly coming in pretty clutch tyloin jumping in greaves in his darkseer
It's enough to keep him alive all the more here and this is going to be a pretty rough
Sine right for yandex. You just had this opening to the game where your SF carry has had unbelievable
amounts of free farm and it's looking like it doesn't matter. They're dealing with him within
the team fights. Now their calls are catching up to Watson and cheer. If they weren't able to take
over the game with Watson having got sort of a start, what hopes they have down the line?
And those deaths from Chira early game absolutely adding up. He's not able to just pop the exorcism acted in that frontliner
This is fantastic moves and LGD with their own style as we said when they have their own draft and when Tylung is playing his own hero
They just look so much better and so much more confident. Yeah, and now absolutely even on the net worth and
With this type of draft if you're even on net worth you're feeling fantastic because you have that
scaling and you have that Darkseer versus the SF you're always gonna get the illusion of them
The Yandex have to put things together now in these next few moments.
The deep wards, this time it's LGD with them, and getting all that information.
Pretty much the first big shake-up that they're encountering in the series so far,
and when it was needed most here for LGD, they're down 2-0 with two rough losses in the first two games.
In the beginning of this game, 3-0, it looked pretty abysmal with how much Watson was getting,
but now they're made to hold the game to a point where they've absolutely got a super strong fighting chance.
And arguably maybe a better one than Yandex have in this position with these heroes
See what Yandex looks to do to get things back together for themselves because they have been pretty split up and they've been punished for it
They buy themselves a gem so that looks like it's gonna be the answer get rid of some of this vision get rid of the words don't get outnumbered
The recovery from feel the car and whisper has been absolutely insane
The fact that they died with 8 plus...
So many times down there.
As I say, it's so many of the games we've seen from LGD.
I feel like Whisper just does this every time.
It doesn't matter if he has a bad lane.
It doesn't matter if he has a great lane.
He will always get into the top 3 network.
And it doesn't matter what heroes he's on as well.
We've seen him do it on so many different heroes on the off lane.
He just gets so farmed, regardless of the start that he has in the lane.
And I do like the build that he went for this game too, right?
The Dominator is probably the only build that you can do nowadays on this game.
But it felt super strong getting that overlord and running it in versus the supports and this is them the max farm build as well
Right, you got the overlord pushing out the map or whatever you want to do with the micro and then the octane blink
Just perm an iron shelling blinking around the camps
You're probably gonna see whisper take the top spot and honestly
He might even start to get thousands gold ahead of any of these other heroes like this dark sears gonna have an insane amount of network
Him and, yeah, him and Yuma for sure will start to pull super far ahead.
We'll see what the Andex likes to do, wants to do to put things together,
because they do have a BKB now for Watson,
and they don't want this game to slow down too much.
Theo charging, giving it permission.
They do lose their ward immediately because of it.
Socks that does have Yuls also finished up, going for the Blinkbaggers.
They do have ways to prevent this SB from charging if he's not BKB.
But this BKB Theo can just bypass them.
DM went for this kind of all-in build too right with this undying so he did go for the
Lotus and pipe to assist his team so not gonna be easy for him to scour really.
They do want to be able to win these fights at this point.
KJ looks like they will be able to find an easy grab onto him.
Now he will take it.
Mid lane.
Teasing around with Chirijunni but Watson was by his side so he won't try and overstay
I welcome it
Tylon still only the one death on him so having a very very good time into this game with his grieves
He has kaiosan. She has which plate they are scaling
and
The map positioning to they're keeping it shoved in at all times
So it's difficult for yandex to do what their draft is designed to do where they group up pressure and go for these plays
Next perhaps big pressure play Roche tormentor
But LGD at this point now can fight in those areas
What do these two can do? They can't quite. Still kind of annoying to take down.
They saved the Spiritbreaker ult, and he's forced to use ulti himself on the Undyne too, so a nice little bait play that comes out from LGD there.
DM?
See where they go with this if they can't look to go with anyone, because he is flailing, right?
He's chillin'.
Not gonna be able to use this flash gold.
And this is, you know, at this point we're at one thing about the lineup of Yandex, they
don't really have a lot of fun dealing with stacked Nagasaian illusions, right?
So maybe earlier...
Just Watson, nobody else.
No, right.
Dealing with the push of these illusions at this point, it's not easy at all for Yandex.
So fighting them up in a position where they can kind of get out and make aggressive moves
is going to be pretty difficult.
I would say now is the timing for Yandex if they don't win this next fight.
It gets, well...
concerns for them. LGD in a very good position now at this point in the game.
And honestly, maybe, you know, I sort of make jokes about just ignore the SF, but they just
ignored the SF, they don't care if he's got this much farm. They killed him when he came to them,
but they didn't try and go for anything too crazy and try and hunt him down unnecessarily.
Bottom clean, he'll be able to get the song off, he can't be stopped up from Chara Junior,
I'm gonna try and get through the twinge!
And Yuma here will!
King Jungle's not able to make in time, but Yuma gets away!
And Rosh, it is top, so they can't just run with this exorcism into the pit.
They will have to walk all the way across as the dying just continues to flail.
I don't know why it's... I guess it's perfect. It's just got stuck like this permanently.
So, yeah, they only get the kill on the trick.
They force an exorcism down on the bottom side too away from an objective.
The LGD is getting more and more as this game progresses.
Taimon, Karazma's done.
Level 20 also for Whisper. They're just sitting back, hitting the creeps, and they're probably, you know, putting that stress on Yandex to make the moves this time around.
I think, you know, Yandex is, for the first time this series, gonna be feeling the heat a little bit.
Maybe wondering kind of where things went wrong really, especially from Watson's perspective.
He's like, I had the freest start to the game, probably broke records with the Iron Pickups.
But I guess things falling apart a little too much elsewhere.
And I'm sure Juni had a great game on in game two, but this game three struggling on the death prophet.
Those two deaths in particular, right, where they caught him, didn't get the Eul's off to stop the spirit breaker charge.
Those were pretty massive to get them back to this point.
They are stalking him. He does not have some of the siren
Watson
So bridge is on cooldown for three seconds
There's no doubt about I think you know yandex
They're feeling the pressure in trouble a little bit here. Yeah now on this game three lgd. They
Remarkably kept their call despite how explosive the beginning was
as Fjandex, and it's absolutely paying off.
The game, it feels very calm now from LGD.
They're not trying to do anything crazy, right?
We're not saying over the top smokes,
they're not forcing anything.
They are very happy to hold the game in this position.
Juma's getting a lot of space to push out waves
as he wishes, and finding the Nagasar
and it's proving to be a bit too difficult.
Fjandex can't really get anywhere close to him
because of how he's kind of keeping a whole area
around and safe with the illusions that he's microing out.
And every time the SF gets bigger,
since he's the biggest on the team,
the darks here will be able to throw the wall on it out.
It's not a butterfly build,
so it's not like that crazy type of SF,
but just having the presence is gonna be big.
Roche, that's the next ticker.
Yandex does have level three exorcism.
Let's see if LGD wants.
I would imagine they look to fight around here.
I don't think they wanna just give up this Roche
by any means.
They've got the tools to fight.
They feel so strong.
Daedalus is done on Wonson, but he can absolutely die.
I think it was jump on him.
They have a lot of BKB, just a lockdown for them.
I'm sure he's done pretty deep!
I mean, trying to draw their attention, I guess, away from the pit.
He's got a defensive line, they're coming in from Malady.
Zip, they're getting the three-man maximums!
Great down on the bottom, what the offer!
They're going to fall on the Requiem Stair there from Wonson!
Pushes out G-Vang for now, they don't have to lock down for Tyler!
He's able to zip back to safety, Malady just dying to the Illusion!
The wall is doing work.
Can they continue to fight into the pit?
They are healthy. They don't have overgrown.
LGD, they're still happy to fight.
Yuma, of course, he's ready to enter into the action.
It has a song if they need to reset.
Exorcism and flesh golem are still active.
I don't want to just walk into it here on the side of LGD.
I mean, yeah, but yeah, there's...
Trying to finish the roach though seems difficult.
LGD will...
They can just wait.
Wait a second until things start falling off
and then commit.
LGD can just go in and hit broach now themselves, right?
They want to fight when this action system's going down.
Yuma's looking for the wraparound.
He'll exit there again.
Huge vacuums coming in every single time.
Oh, with Tylon.
The silence catching on to the song
won't be there to save him in time.
The beat gave him his out for Watson anyway,
so he'll kill off the two of them.
Fiora and Tylon are gone.
Greaves were cooled down, I guess.
I think they were just uncooled on for that second.
Oh, they must have been right.
Because he got caught by the silence of Chira.
It was a huge vacuum, but the follow-up wasn't there.
And now Yandex, they do have the freedom
to get back into the pit and get the Aegis on Watson.
They needed that Aegis.
They will have it now for these next few moments.
Tylen, I'd have to see it again, how he got caught from the silence.
Yeah, I didn't get to see exactly how it did clip him.
I mean, maybe this is for the silence, just kind of catching him by surprise.
It is a shocker of silences as well too, so maybe it was a secondary one that caught him.
And we'll see it here, again, goes for the deep jump.
Clege is coming to the silence now.
I don't see what the, I guess it must have been split second cooldown for him.
Bottom, lots of him.
As soon as he picks up the Aegis, he might just lose it.
The heals come out, doesn't matter.
Aegis is gone.
He's got backup.
Wall's going to be laid down, seeing if they've
gone in a second time.
They can't.
The backup's in for Watson, so they'll just
have to be happy with the fact that they took the Aegis
out very quickly and that they can get away.
And so anyone gets punished.
They're trying to chase it with Saksa.
It's not the Aegis usage that Yandex wants.
LGD would be super happy with that play.
Punish it, Watson, immediately as he shows.
This game is super exciting. LGD is doing it in their own flair.
And Whisper is just doing a lot right now. He was kind of back-to-back.
Three-man vacuum is coming in from Whisper on the darkseer.
And he has a lot of scaling to get toward it.
Again, he's just massive. Keeping up with Watson and Yuma in terms of farm.
Now both... It's not just... Kari's having an average performance for LA.
These Kari's have insane amounts of net worth, and Whisper is still keeping level with them.
them.
Tylong not doing too shabby himself either after dying there, he's still in a pretty
good position in terms of farm.
Sure he's the bottom of the course, but when he's playing versus Death Prof you expected
it to be much worse with how the game was starting.
If you can get to the ag too, Vacuum plus Aghanim's, they have so much wombo combo with
this draft.
Sinus?
Yeah, it still has a lot of sustain that they can't play around here, but the damage
is increasing more and more on the side of OGB.
Okay, both teams are looking for the barbels.
Charging on the app.
Silence.
All comes in, illusions upon him. Backer comes in.
They've got any control for the other core.
He'll just go for the VKB, TP out.
Grip's gonna be there.
The other core will get punished, but again,
having used quite a bit for this, the grip having to be used.
Also, there's the flesh golem.
So...
for just the support again, it's I guess the question is what do you think yandex are looking towards to be that next timing right that
Because it's hard to kind of find
At this point of the game
It's just 5v5 fights where they can actually get proper control on the storm spirit
I'd imagine they still have ways to take the fights
It's just they have worries about this Naga Siren in particular
But if they can isolate Yuma then that's a way that they can address her because these next three pickups are gonna be huge
The fact that Maldi very close to the agonims and then cheer junior he can get the hex pretty soon
Yeah, and so can Saxa. Yeah, so you're gonna have these
You know three extra options of strong lockdown coming into play obviously still finding the actual naga science gonna be the difficulty
And you know played very elusive in these fights. He's been playing a very well
They've only found humor once this game. There's just a lot of
Stuff on the floor right with the blink the vacuum the illusions
This is a surge that's causing them to be slowly potential overgrowth to its overall team fight. We are seeing
Absolutely playable there from LGD if they can get these catches and for
Yandex, it's very specific because they just don't really have the same type of disables. It's just
It's just really the bane. That's it
A little bit of pause perhaps ears again because my ears are hurting the least
Hex for cheer up about to be finished
Sox are also getting very close to it but whispers the one at the first and as we're seeing
They can essentially hundreds of zero Watson. I mean, yeah, this is the sort of vulnerability
the SF has at this point right against the lineup. The LGT's
Managed her to bring forth to this point of the game to this later stage already here 38 minutes in the last couple of games
We're at this point. I feel like it was a pretty much both games at this point
They would be like 30k behind. Mm-hmm
This game is truly delivering. They do have saves for Watson, but we have to just always factor those in
They have a lot of heel from the sole rip the cart all that the sleep potential to the reset allowing him to get BK
be off, but if LGD is clean with it, you can 100% go for that, 100-0 on him.
And there's the Aghanim's too for Tylox, so these fights are super chaotic, and if they
do stack up on the side of Yandex, that wombo combo is dangerous.
The vacuums and the Aghanim's vortexes, uh-huh.
Yuma is also going for his own Hex too, so there's gonna be a lot of Hexes in this game.
Yeah, he's pretty close to having the money right.
He's still obviously not spent into it, so he could consider else wise, but you think he's
He's pretty happy to stick with committing for the Hexhares, the Nagasarnas, anything else you could consider.
It feels like a really good item this game from both sides.
Both teams just have overwhelming damage, so just these extra controls are pretty massive.
Yeah, especially...
Honestly, you play more so from the LGD side of things, right? If they take this SF out of the fight, the fight's kind of over.
It is. If this is actually... this is pretty much a 4-protect 1 now.
Yeah, whereas with LGD, you kill one of their cores,
The other two are still incredibly formidable.
Like, you are gonna have to deal with
jumping and controlling more than just one of them.
That is that tri-scaling core.
Malady, look at the jam up here.
He knows around.
Who's up to do?
Gonna find him with the silence.
TM.
I'm just gonna try and help out here,
look to some pipe, keeping Malady safe.
Charges coming in back from the other core.
We stopped by the ULs.
What the ghost?
And they got the crypts.
They got immediately put through a stop there by the song.
Melody is the song to TP out and keep them safe. Get away from these ultimates.
This song disengages. That's flesh golem again. That's exorcism Yandex.
On the fiendscript.
Can they actually run it? Anybody to catch it now here?
Fiendscript is a pretty low cooldown with this agonim.
That's true.
But yeah, it's still...
They're hiding the ulties beautifully.
But every minute that they can't look to make a move, Yandex, it hurts them.
It does. LGD gets happier and happier as this game progresses.
They have a super strong late game skill in draft.
They had questions if they'd be able to get to this point, they absolutely have made it here.
I'm just crazy to see, right?
To do so after two pretty rough games in the opening of this best of five, and then the beginning of this one,
you know, that would be enough, honestly, to break a lot of proteins, right?
You know, a lot of other teams in that situation, the tilting, the crumbling, it would have happened.
Exhaustion is this.
LGD, they don't crumble. These guys don't tell.
Exhaustion can absolutely be a thing when it's these type of days when you're playing for a B or 3 into a best of 5 that can go the distance, but we're showing...
Especially after... Yeah, that's the thing as well, right? Coming into this best of 5 after such a crazy, best of 3 already earlier today.
Mm-hmm. They needed that warm-up.
Wow. LGD.
And they needed to just go back to their style. You know, they were a little too honest in those last two games, playing just the normal stuff that everybody else was.
This one, that guy, we're back to our stuff and we've been seeing the strength of it here.
And back to their stuff, in a situation right in the draft where it felt like this is gonna be hard,
like it was not like they came in with these heroes and it was like oh this is gonna be an easy turn around of the series here in game 3.
It was a very hard fought for early 14 minutes of this game so far.
LGD now being rewarded by having the game in a pretty good looking position and one that Yandex had definitely gonna have to think about super hard
on how to kind of break through this stage of the game.
Perhaps it is going to be around these hexes,
and they're going to look for the jumps themselves
since they do have the double.
Yep, Sox has got it, Chira's got it too.
Watson is about to hit level 25 too,
so he's about to hit a very peak timing for himself also.
That is very good versus Naga Siren 2, to be honest.
Being able to shadow raise, wipe the illusions as well too.
Yeah, so you can just jump and throw everything in,
the grips into the hex, into the hex,
nullify as well, of course, on DM.
So, a lot to just completely sl- you know, just for everything I want to say, the- the plan of fucking life course in Asia is that they're the cause of it to be smart with that one.
What the hell was that?
Did you hear that? Requiem? Got a loud scream of Requiem in my ear.
DM, very close to hitting level 25 as well too.
So, lots more strength. He's gonna be super tanky in the front line.
You know, they're looking all in. Both sides are looking to all in just an individual target and they both absolutely can't do that.
We might, we might have a long one on that.
We could.
We could.
We see both teams happy to kind of hog the map as it is.
I mean, why so kind of, you know, Yandex feels like they don't really have an option.
Sure.
They're going to have the game, should I hold in this position against them for now?
Whereas LGD, they could try and force something, but they can also kind of just sit back, get
nine-slotted if they want on the Naga Siren.
If they can go super patient, the thing is though, Watson is bobbling.
How is the bubble situation?
There's bubbles on both sides. They're both on one.
Yeah, they're ready to bubble.
Oh, yeah.
Now, are there any busted bubbles you can do?
Stored bubble.
Stomped.
Yeah.
And you're bubbling for the cooldown or the damage?
That's a good question. We'll see which one he wants to go for.
There are some pretty insane ones, so.
Yeah.
We'll see if we can do it.
If these two teams really need to go by by some of the other games that we've had from
both of them and their runs here at Blast, Slam 7, it's likely.
And even though as we're mentioning a lot here, LG's draft, it does scale super hard.
It is very good as the game progresses even more so as it does go on later and later,
you never can't index out.
This Watson SF, it is a beast especially at this moment versus the Naga Siren, the Shadow
Races, will be able to wipe a lot and they are getting these, is it all 325, not quite
Not yet for Chirra, but 225s.
And just the jump potential, right?
If they play the fights right, which they absolutely can,
we've seen it many a time from Yandex also
in these late game situations.
Now, they can deal with these areas.
Not going to be easy, though, especially because of just how,
well, Yuma's been playing with his position.
Like, he's not been getting caught.
And we're seeing in the ways that he's kind of entered in,
also opted to kind of get out of these fights.
It's been pretty perfect.
And they're also getting this item here on KJ pretty soon. It's the Wind Waker.
Of course, there is the nullifier for DM, which can just bypass and remove that type of save here,
but they can see what type of idea the Yandex is looking for appalling in TARGETS as well.
And Rosh time.
Next thing on the menu.
I mean, do they care to try and interrupt this?
I would, yeah. I would drink so.
Okay.
I don't want to just give up a free cheese and refresh your shard.
They have SONG as north to commit.
Oh, TARGETS!
Gonna check out the situation.
They're just scouting.
Pretty low here, Roshan.
So it is dropped.
Running to force them away.
What they're going to get?
What the fuck are you doing?
This is what attracted me.
The corner there, but he's able to get the song off.
What's the plan with the song?
Oh, the music got changed.
There is a song anymore.
Back in the day, it did not anymore.
So they might have to combo there.
Yandex now going to look to fight on now.
The song's been used.
Somebody's called by the group.
I'm with the song already re-used.
There's not really anywhere to free him from this.
I long.
They haven't?
It's a killing note. It's close. He's out of the side, but he's out of land and they're gonna jump forward and try and chase Tyler down, but the surge is there from Whisper.
He'll get Tyler out of this. They're back off. LGD only losing the trio.
Roche is shifting, but Exorcism is still killing it in the water.
And Yuuma, he's actually quick to put some pressure on that one, but he's watching.
This is sneaky.
Or if he gets the perfect requiem, maybe. I mean, you must be thanking him.
He needs more. He needs a plus one.
Even if he's dead on top of him.
Yes, he needs a plus one.
Ah, so long though.
He doesn't know who else is behind it.
Okay, yeah, he knows that he can't happen though.
Yep, he's still trying to chase for this, but they will come around and there's a hex.
I mean, back up's coming in, but he's kind of dying to be losing it once, and he's a chocolatey attack!
He's not! The Lord's in!
The van kicks him out, because Ty's been pulled from the rest of LG to head on over,
and drop the nullified down on the field and go and knock him back.
Now, kill the Spiritbreaker, but Ty will, he is still pretty strong, has plenty of mana.
Yuma might go back in soon too.
Ty long, can he find the angle here?
Watson tried to go for a sneaky play there, but he's vulnerable.
And his team weren't quite as close as Yuma's were.
And they can't close the gap like a spirit breaker storm can either, right?
And now LGD's going to have the space to go back into the pit,
but no chance for Yandex to fight this rose now.
So, LGD, turn the edges here.
Four Tylong, refresher shot, and cheese at the ready.
Two slip-ups, right? Watson on the bottom play,
trying to go for the play. Now again, trying to go for a solo one.
Tylong will be very happy getting a full refresher shot here.
Octorine for Chirra, but this is the timings. LGD, they're hitting all of them. Now they get the ages. They prevent the SF from getting it as well too.
The end is heavily on the back foot now.
I mean, they tried the Naga Sleep Vacuum combo, but we did check it. I mean, we know it's been changed a course of paths to go.
When did that change? It was 3-8?
Man, I can't remember which patch it was.
I was a little highly likely. He was just trying to kind of time it with the end of it.
because I've, yeah, I look at the music.
He's whisper, he's like, he's master tidd, that was the scene.
He knows it's the interaction.
It was 7.440, it was pretty recent.
That's true, actually, that was not that long ago, as well.
It did look like he was vacuuming on that at Golden League, so.
Well, he knows for next time.
Not over next time.
Yep.
And he does have a refresher for the next one too, so.
It would be easier for him to get that plus the double wall,
which would be pretty brutal for Wokster to deal with.
Super impressive plays coming out from LGD, and as we said,
They look the best in their style.
Remember how he was talking about the dreams of the AC for Theodore?
I think he's almost on his way toward it.
He did put them aside when they kind of realized,
hey, you know what? We're stabilizing this game.
Now he's ready to go back and look to finish that.
Cheer up. Getting closer and closer to 25.
With all of this game, it feels like the pressure,
it has to be Watson playing it perfectly.
We potentially could get to some raker territory very early in this game, too
I think yeah, I think it has like it's awesome
They need some sort of like crazy
Like break the game jump up in power because this year is that he just dies in a stop
They yeah, they can they can get on top of him rather easily right now
And not a huge amount of ways to stop that really right from that from the lineup
Like how how do you stop nightmare see how do you collapse the under yourself?
It's really just a nightmare save, right? You have to just protect him with that.
Sure, try to find some way for him to get at the BKB and wreck him off and push them back.
Definitely not easy. Not easy at all to protect the SF at this point.
So they do have heals. I think maybe Wind Waker for Sox also potentially could be the next choice.
Excuse me. Because they don't have a Nova Fire if I'm not mistaken, right?
On LGD9.
Yeah, they don't have one. So the Wind Waker could be pretty huge as Sox is able to get that to at least
The fail walks in out of the next few situations.
But I do think that's... Yeah, watch and fuse it up.
It feels like this is getting to the point where he's gonna need a rager.
You get the catch and whisper.
DM goes in!
He feels tanky, and he has 6000 HP.
He's got quite a bit of HP.
Uh, Song, what do they want to do with this? Looks like they just want to run.
Yeah, run away from that flesh column.
Not the longest of cooldowns, not this point with the Octary, but still a cooldown for sure.
I'm constricting the map up to a 10k lead, starting to get big pickups that's the refresher for Whisper.
Crazy farms. 10k ahead for the Naga, 5k ahead for that Darkseer.
He said Tylo, he's starting to slow down a little bit here, but he is still a storm spirit, so as long as he gets the catches.
Yeah, I mean pretty much that's all his job is right now, just zipping in, getting this agonim towards X, off and out.
He's sort of identified that as well. That's why he did get the aggs at this stage in the build.
I really like that he went the griefs this game.
I think that actually salvates a lot of the problems in this early game.
Because otherwise, Wisper would have died in that early, poor situation that happened.
So I do love the build that he's gone for this game.
They're going to go for the smoke. It is into the remnants of the Aegis.
Still a minute left on that of Tylon.
Trying to catch them off guard here, perhaps.
The Yandex, they do know that they have to try for a risky play right now.
The game is falling away from them.
Tyrone has a regen though, can't quite go for him, he has Aegis anyway.
KJ, let's totally drop everything on the tree.
Might even get the second support here, Theo.
EKB and a Shadow Blade, if you can find someone to charge him on, he needs to charge out.
In fact, he's thinking about running back at them.
He's thinking of doing the lanes.
And you get a charge off, he gets it onto Malady.
Ooh!
Jira?
Can I catch him?
Pull!
And he loses a hit on the back of the wall!
The wall is down pretty much under the floor, the whisper catches the wind of wall, the song's there.
They can now surround the remaining three members and very likely kill them all.
BKB's, Tylen's in the distance, Jirijunni is gone.
Tylen running away here as he surges down. BKB's going to come to an end soon for Watson and DM
as Watson, he's going to die. Hexed up, they've got the SF.
They can move over to the DM Arcade and he managed to TP out.
So DM will survive before them dead. They tried to get out and look for a fight, but as you can see, LGD, they're not scared of Yandex now.
Tylong gets the perfect grab there. They get the song as well to just reset positioning. The BKBs come out, but the fight's already over at that point.
Time to do the damage and they get to jump in with X. DM gets caught. A lot of HP, but not enough to survive LGD.
Oh, and it looks like they have done it in this game. The timings, Yandex, they did not get to hit them. They do F-Bibax.
Germany they're forced to use. Bibax comes out from Saksa.
Tylong's doing solid damage.
I believe F-Bibax is a bit scary as well, could you step up? They're probably jumping Hex you again.
Tylong?
Gonna have some to Tylong.
Whispers here though.
The King gets the three-man match-in!
Every single half!
And the Vortex Whisper does it every single time!
My goodness!
What a redemption story from him!
From feeding his brain stuff to the SF in the lane to carry the game!
And maybe getting a wrap, but he gets a triple kill!
They're going in for more!
The game's over! GG's called!
Whisper has the last laugh!
That was so impressive. What a recovery from them.
Punishing the over-aggression early from Chira.
Getting those early kills, buying the Greaves on the Storm.
These are really clutch plays.
I mean this is insane.
Listen.
Game 1 and Game 2, they could absolutely destroy.
And in the beginning of Game 3, it couldn't be any more demoralizing for them.
The SF Watson, he was like 803 in the lane.
He was.
They had the answers.
They get the catch and they do it in their style.
Like we said, Ty Lund, he's not playing the Largo.
He's not playing the Slardar.
No.
He's playing his Slardar.
As I say, stars of the show, really, for me, it's Whisper.
I don't think I've ever seen someone have such a rough lane
and then just be able to come back into the game with the impact
that he had.
Every single vacuum was hitting three heroes.
In the end, he was dropping walls, he was hitting four heroes.
Whisper hit.
He was preventing everything.
Like, he was preventing the saves, too.
I saw multiple times, Mallory or Sox are walking up to either,
you know, drop some type of heal or get anything off.
They would get vacuumed in.
And that's not what you want to see when you're a coddler or a band.
You just get caught.
Yeah, Whisper, absolute beast performance.
Yeah, that was one of the best darkseer performances I've seen in a while, which they took contrast, right?
You would never have guessed where this was going from.
After wide open the title, it's stepping up, maybe to be quite grand finals as LGD, they're able to get this game three win.
It's two to one, we're going to have the lead, but LGD starting to fight back hard.
I mean, that's exactly why we had Zaxa just moments ago talk about, you can't get too over eager
in a grand final even if you are two games up because sometimes you just let your opponent
whisper specifically get a dog's ear and unfortunately it's all over but this is what
we loved about the LGD draft. You don't factor in draft integrity necessarily but a play to hero
combo what they're able to do and when I look at it it just screams like the perfect LGD specific
draft. You got to be ready for the gameplay because when it definitely did look like mechanics you
You know they slowed down at some moments. They were caught slipping in LGD. They made full use of this
We have a lot of teamfights. You can even see it here
It's just like they find these exact moments of like nice spell layering and I think yeah makes definitely day
They they dropped their focus in this game
It was kind of also interesting to see LGD adopt a very kind of defensive mindset going into a game three after praising them on the aggression
When you look at the heroes, you know the tree the naga siren ducks
All of them just kind of want to shove wave chill let the game breathe and then once they see the counterplay potential
Then they will pounce and collapse through their kiting so it was it's cool
to see LG has kind of a another way to win a game and
You know what time to show it in a game three when you're about to potentially be eliminated and give the index to win
It's also ridiculously hard to come back on a mental level from when you're getting stopped this hard
Like they died in that safe on about a hundred million times to try to fiend Bane
This is the fattest SF I've ever seen he was morbidly obese and they're still able to sort of chill and
and Vibe and come back in a situation that is like it's so hard to actually retain your stability.
Yeah. He was 4k the SF just before 7 minutes. Like if that doesn't paid the picture of how OP
felt that this SF was going to get throughout the game, I don't know what does. He was level 7
when Whisper was level 4. And a half. Sure, you know, we'll drop in a half because it does matter,
but like the thing is overall, like you need to keep your cool on all the players in that lane
lane that are getting trounced and also the rest to be like okay let's not
over rotate to the lane you're doing you know it's not going too well but we'll
make up for it later you need to have that trust and like when they say also
it's not just that this game wasn't going well they're also down 0-2 in a
grand finals like to stay clean in that moment is not an easy feat. Now
admittedly yes it was really good for the safe lane of Yandex and really tough
for the off lane of LGD but one lane that has been so consistent win or loss
for the side of LGD has been too long. Are you to be honest he has been
bringing it to CJ and I think that ultimately that is what enables a dog
so you're off lane that's struggling to be able to get back into a game and then
win it. Yeah it's honestly incredibly impressive. This is a very hard lane for
Storm. It's a very favorite lane. No it's like it's absurd. The amount of
times I've seen Storm win the lane against that prophet I can count on no
hands because it's never happened. He just straight up solo kills him. What is this?
This is this is insane. This does not happen. This Thailand kid is absolutely in
you know, you're not going to
be able to get into the
game. You're not going to be
able to get into the unreal
zone right now. This is
especially when you're down to
games like this to be like,
You know what? I don't care
that we're getting stomped in
this series. I'm going to
solo kill him every single
game. It's actually absurd. Mad
props. This kid. He is a clutch
man. I mean, you need these
factors because with the death
profit as well. So if you give
death profit, the early game
lead, if she's able to start
taking over the game, like
she's going to whittle down
your towel. She's going to
break the map. She ended the
game like 32 was it 3400
starting building damage on a
all the hights that we've seen, tier 2s were up at the clutch moment of the game, right?
There was no progression from Yandex, because Tylong in the mid lane getting that one kill,
and also then CJ's entry to the game after that solo death in the mid lane,
he didn't really enter the game of confidence. We have been seeing this a couple times with
death profits where they kind of think they can do these aggressive moves, they get hit with a
quick kill or quick death story, and then they disappear from the game. I think exactly what
happened with CJ, we just did not see him with his like, was it 10 to 15, he died about three times
I'm just like back to back to back it was yeah pretty game losing at least for Yandex in regards to the momentum and gifting a
Potential comeback for OCD especially to like he's the last pick of the draft
He was he's football. He's good against storm mid and his hero
It doesn't it doesn't answer naga in the game like at all
Which means you need your game to be good like continue the game
I mean it's like even here right right the fact that you're taking this top tower
But you're not playing on the left side with your dying you're playing on the right side
That you also hug in the tree line inviting that aggression and then like moments later that you're running into the enemy jungle
Sure, you're utilizing the Undying and the Coddle, but it doesn't really feel like there's these big moments of brilliance for Yandex and, yeah, here's the kill here that I was trying to reference here, just kind of by himself in No Man's Land.
It just wasn't the most powerful statement death of a game, where on paper it was meant to be like the perfect pick, you know, shut down the storm, take the towers, play through the Undying, see you just kind of unfortunately kind of buckled under the pressure, I think, of, you know, the brilliance of Tylong.
I think that also what it props up the Naga Siren pick even more, right?
I've liked it when we've kept humors here a pick a little bit later in the draft when it is something that no one else
Is really picking in the meta but on top of that what has been failing LGD in the last two games
Is they have to go all in when it comes to team fight and you need to ensure that you're getting the numbers advantage
It's quick as possible at least with this Naga song and how we see them use it so often
It isn't necessarily oh, we're gonna set up to win the fight
it's we've engaged now we want to disengage and they're able to get such significantly better to
fight throughout this whole game. It's just Naga was definitely like the best pick off this draft
I think overall for LGD and it is very good against Yandex overall but especially in this game
like you know Bane is ultra hard to play this hero even like DP and SF especially on dying like
sure you can do well in the lane but in the game none of these heroes really interact with you that
much so I think LGD they just found very good hero picks for themselves and they found themselves
also good comeback. Yeah, I will also say the Dota plus win percent counter. While that
thing is not always correct, it always means something. And the fact that even while LGD
is down like seven K gold, it says like maybe 40% chance to them. Those are ridiculous numbers.
And I think it says something about the individual matchups. Like you said, right? The comfort
on LGD, it's not just the comfort. They have really good core to core matchups. Naga Siren
is great against SF and Darkseer is also amazing as SF. So as time passes, this SF will not
carry the game if he's the only bro who's like look at these numbers this is not normally normally it'll be like I don't know 80 90% for
one team with a lead this much this early in the game that says something about your hero matchups they knew they knew that my boy whispered on this game like it's not
first of all it's not normal that you go 0 and 5 which is sure you don't want to have this happen it's okay but the thing is it happens most importantly what is you know the
The actual important thing about this game is the fact that you can stay in it and understand
what you need to do to come back.
Cause one in five, eight minutes, this SF, like when I already said, he was the fattest
guy we've ever seen in like a game like this, at least on Shadowfiend.
But they keep their cool, they understand how to fight.
He can end this game seven, six, and fifteen.
And overall, I think even like stats aside, his spell casting was insanely good in the
middle of that game.
He did have one Oopsy where he tried to vacuum on a song, which, you know, we were full.
Oh, give him.
Give me number.
He knows it's been patched out.
knows now after doing it the one time, but just understanding and keeping you cool.
And I think playing it through like this is just incredibly impressive.
Did you have anything less than a three man vacuum?
Not at the end.
No, I feel like anything 40 minutes onwards was like,
they were big vacuums.
Yeah.
I mean, he had like the casual chasm as well to be able to like hit these bigger
vacuums as well.
I think just wish for a least in this grand finals, you want to see him on a
hero where you go, okay, his hero versus that core, you are like the outplay
potential.
Of course with Batwright it makes sense, you're always going to have the lasso against any B3 hero, ducked into SF.
I kind of want to have that value, even the timber in the lower bracket, it made sense, it was a last pick.
So as much as you're praising Ymra and having a later pick position, I think having Whisperer as well have some information on his hero
is a good formula to enabling the fight into the annex and potentially mounting a comeback in the grand finals.
I also don't know if you guys saw, but there were three bobbles on the tier four.
I swear to God that without the game yesterday, there would have been maximum one.
Like, my Brawls were gearing up for the late game if it, you know, had gone there.
They had the drafter. You got Storm to skip waves, you got Naga to skip waves.
Like, if they wanted to, if they wanted to have, you know, the fear of ending it, they could have,
you know, made this game last a little bit longer.
But luckily, they knew when and how to close it out,
which is something that we have been questioning for LGD in some of these kind of longer games.
But this time, they, you know, they smelled the blood and they went, no, this is our way to win.
With all that being said, though, I think it's really easy when you win one game to get a little
too high on yourself. Yeah. And I think you have to bring it back down to earth and understand that
hey guys we got raffle stomped in lanes and if they played a little bit cleaner. Not Thailand.
Not Thailand. The other two lanes got raffle stomped and that is that's a problem especially if in
next game the adnex has a draft that scales better right. Imagine if they can just sit on their
honches and it's fine and the the graphs are something very very different. Then this is a
sure loss. You can't have lanes like this because I said earlier but that is a real problem and so
the game. You know, you know,
you know, you know, you know,
you know, you know, whether
it be gameplay or draft, but
this is this is not something
that can be a repeat occurrence.
So it's not all fun and games
you've got one way and you're
still on the brink. You need
to win two more games in a row
and so you have to lock in the
benefit of that is they are
having a longer break right?
We give them that longer break
between game three and game four
and I do feel like there is an
advantage that when you win
that game three and it is that
That was an amazing thing, but you actually have more time than normal to bring the adrenaline levels down to what feels like
The appropriate amount
Okay, so the same argument can be made though if he and X right as much as it's great for LGD to like
Reset the ability to not be overhyped for yandex like they can just go guys in this game
I'll ain't crushed it this mistake this mistake now we lose
So all they have to do is iron out that one mistake through a conversation
Is it through CJ and like the way that he's playing to Thailand?
If he's getting solo killed, what, two out of three games in the mid lane?
Bro, just chill. You don't need to play up in the 1v1.
Let your ego sit down. You don't have to kill him now.
Just hit some creeps.
There's some conversation they can have themselves in this break.
And then we get to see Yandex potentially crush another early game
that they have been doing quite reliably.
Yeah, and I like also what Saksa said earlier.
You can't get ahead of yourself.
You're up through and all. Obviously now they're nothing anymore,
but I think the game had felt a little bit casual
with how they were itemizing and also moving and playing a little bit.
And I think at the same time, you made a very good point.
I think that Yandex should look at maybe scaling a little bit more again.
Like, you know, a potential earlier Invoker, or like looking more at the map play again that they had before.
Because I think that worked very well.
It bit them a little bit in the ass and diskin that they didn't, but it was also very much paired with not the best gameplay.
Why not look at supports, if I could rotate and help CJ a bit more in the mid, or at least shut down Tiling a little bit?
Because when I look at a Bane and a Coddle, I wasn't really seeing this massive support towards the Death Prophet
to be able to take advantage of a Storm Spirit that was looking to solo kill.
I mean, I'll be honest, CJ's got to pull his own way.
I don't think any of these games are on his supports.
That's not what I'm saying either.
No, but I think honestly, he dies at level 5 solo kill to storm.
Like, that's before people are even rotating.
You're rotating generally around a 6-minute rune mark before then is occasional,
but it's very situational based on the game.
I think his supports are honest to playing totally fine in this game,
and it's not about the heroes either.
I think CJ has gotten solo killed multiple times now.
This is a recurring issue, and it's not a hero's thing.
He just needs to like, I don't know, wake up a little bit.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Do we draft to compensate for that?
I don't think so.
OK.
If you're meant to win tournaments,
the player has to identify his own mistakes
and be able to fix them without needing, like,
a draft change, an identity change.
It literally is on CJ to go, I would love to win Blastlam.
And to do that, I just need to play better, cleaner, six minutes.
It could also just be like, like it can be somewhat simple
in a way where I think his deaths come from him, like, overplaying
or even small mistakes like being too low at feet that happened in game one with the monkey king versus lago
now in this game he's playing DP versus storm he is winning the lane but eventually he finds himself in a moment where he's like
I need to kill this guy you don't need to kill him you're winning the lane you have your pick for a reason they can take the tower
play for that
yeah I think that that mentality is honestly like I do see it in this clip he has three points in syphon when he dies
that is not normal generally the skill build in this lane is 302 because you want to wait you want to push the wave in
whenever you have ulti and you can attack the tower that's what it's about it's about the slow chipping down
and this like getting too hungry for kills thing is very, very common whenever you,
you feel pressured in some way. Like you, I don't know, he might have a chip on his shoulder
because he's gotten solo killed before and he's like, I need to, I need to prove it in some way
or I need to get the momentum going. He's, he said a little bit earlier, but I think
there's some truth there that like this skill build is wrong and the way he's playing it is a bit
wrong and it's just, I don't know, it's a little bit off. Well, it appears both teams need to come
down to an appropriate level of adrenaline or whether it is just having a level at head there
for themselves because we're gonna be having a game number four in our grand finals just off to the spring
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Welcome to my table. You're going to be playing Dungeons & Dota today. It's been months since
the Silk Break incident, but the damage cut deep and continues to impact the daily workload
of Dark Reef Prison. You were hired to stand here at the base of these steps right in front
of a magically bound podium where I suppose an extremely dangerous megalomaniac slithers
around so that's what you're going to do but not actually because that's not what you were
hired to do you were hired actually actually by a mysterious second person who claims that the
supposed extremely dangerous megalomaniac is actually innocent and you're being paid a very
attractive amount to help break them out of dark room prison now who are our heroes
And standing beside the gargoyle, Tarkatio in love with it, is our second mighty hero,
Ex-Tubero!
Behind you, you can hear Lady Redriver moving about herself.
The podium she stands on is surrounded by a spell barrier that's fortified by thick metal
chains connecting to each corner.
Each chain is wrapped in a magical glow that hums, keeping the naga trapped inside.
Right there at that arch at the bottom of our map, you see a brown bag slide through
the metal grate where lunch is usually delivered for your captive.
This is the artifact that you will hide to bring to your client.
I go here with my magical axe and I even call it shabla.
Let's do it.
Yeah, a little d20.
20.
20.
I just tried to change.
You're a plus 20.
What's that?
You're a seven.
You get your big axe out, you trough it down, the chain, like the magic doesn't even matter.
The magic doesn't even resist it, like it just, just buzzes instantly.
Your axe is way stronger than anything that it's ever been up against.
One down, so you hit a seven, you ravage it, I mean it's vice ravage.
So now you smell, how does it miss?
How does it possibly miss?
It's just a tentacle, so it works, and these both break.
I'm gonna throw it.
How are you gonna throw it?
I'm gonna throw it with my hands.
And you can go get it for me, you're suing, you're a fish.
But how about you help?
Sure, I'll come help you.
Yeah, I'm gonna mount on the tide.
I'm going to have to break it.
What the f***?
I respect you.
That's how you do it.
The magical barrier starts to break.
You kind of see it disintegrate.
The red river is free and she comes up.
She says, quickly, hand me the scepter.
And as she clasps it in her hands,
she shines with a bright light
as flames overtake her aquatic form.
When you're able to see clearly again,
you're faced with something far less regal
and a lot more deadly.
What's the mistake with her?
She speaks, her voice ringing across the battlefield, commanding.
Finally, I wield the power to destroy Darkreef's prison from the inside.
I must focus my power on spreading my flames to destroy the integrity of Darkreef.
Do as you will hide to and protect me until it is complete. How do you feel?
I feel fine. She's super powerful and she's our teammate, X-Rubes.
She's not gonna kill us.
She's gonna kill everything else. She's gonna destroy everything else.
So, you're gonna have a bunch of enemies start to come through the doors.
We're guys.
More fishes.
You're brothers.
Some more guys.
I'm sure it is.
Might want over here.
A couple more guys.
I don't want to do this.
We're not gonna fight.
We're gonna unite each other and we're gonna get the ways of production and have a healthy
life for everyone.
Look, I didn't want to do this.
I swear to God.
I'm sorry.
And then I call them and I start spinning my eggs.
I call all of them that are in my range.
OK.
How will?
How will?
I think it's just my.
I have everything.
So my call is stronger.
20, 20.
It's over.
My guy doesn't like fighting.
Eggs, fed.
I want you to do like a little tag for us.
I'm going to kill you.
When the second one hits you, that makes three attacks total,
and that causes you to spin,
and you're gonna spin for damage, roll it.
Please.
Nice.
Dude, are you kidding me?
Like, actually, I'm like...
Oh!
You hit the most devastating spin of your life!
You've spinned so extremely freaking Fawcett Crade,
Goddamn wallwind of pain and blood.
Do you have one or two?
Twenty-two net worth at least twenty-eight you're not allowed to be alchemy.
I'm very passionate.
Those alchemists are alchemy.
But the players that we have, they're above fifty percent.
I think only slightly.
Yeah, because I think they're awesome really good carriers.
But there's also a role which was off-leaning.
But like, Shadowfiend and Loner, like, they naturally generate gold once.
Like, if they go untouched in the early game, they will just pop off, right?
Yeah.
But I also think if you're letting it through, you're more likely to shut it down.
I will say yes.
Personally, above 50%.
50%? OK. There it is.
Make a lock and a 50%.
Lock and a 50%.
of the game. With such a
beautiful game three when
they're going the way of LGD.
It doesn't mean we have a game
number four here. It's sitting
two to one in a best of five,
and I can promise you the
exhaustion right now is
definitely being felt by
everyone in the LGD camp. I
mean, they've already had to go
to a game number three in a
little bracket finals played
early today and ultimately T.
This has been one of the
toughest and most grueling
But double elimination, the amount of best of threes,
everyone's having a play in a day,
it feels like it really is non-stop, especially,
Carl G.D.
No, I'd argue this is probably the hardest one,
just the fact that, like you said,
the elimination in the group stage,
knowing that a couple mistakes there,
a best of one loss could just get you out of the tournament,
then having to fly over, playing this double-alim,
like at any minute, the teams just keep leveling up,
keep understanding that the tournaments
and the heroes are progressing.
We, our top four teams also have very unique hero pools,
so it's not as if it's like other tournaments
and other patches where it's like,
are the 10 heroes, guys. We battle for five of them, and then we play Dota. Like, this is really a
unique position, every single draft, and I think it is a real test of both teams,
and then the winner is like, it is right for the deserved.
Yeah, I completely agree. I think this is a, this is a spicy one, because very quickly,
whenever you go from 2-0, you drop one game, okay, whatever, just one game, you lose that second
game. That's real.
Now it's like, okay, well, it feels like you're behind, because you had an advantage and you
you lost. So even though technically you're even, you had something and you lost it and
everybody knows what that feels like. It feels like you're worse than when you started. And
I think that definitely feels that way for Finals 2. And so I think this fourth game
holds a lot of weight and a lot of pressure because when you lose, it really shifts the
psychological situation into LGD's favor. And while it may be around even, I'd say now,
even LGD favored that win, especially on this break match, I think gives you time not just
for the winning side, but for the next side, when you lose and you're kind of soaking in
that loss, it can mess with you a little.
Especially also like if you're like LGD in this scenario and you're down 0-2
Your emotions and you're feeling civil sometimes play like a trickery. It's like are we like can we not beat them?
Are they just like better? Is there no way and suddenly you do make it happen for whatever reason?
Maybe you play better. Maybe they dropped the ball at the end of the day
It doesn't really matter but you can kind of like get rid of those emotions
And you can kind of feel well and have actual confidence without like you know having to fake it because it's very real like these things
Happen sometimes and you get in your own head because Dota is already it is such a mental game
Like it was literally said like what ten years ago by Nota and this this quote is
Incredibly true. It will never be different playing this game
It is so much of a mental game and then also you just obviously need to press the buttons, but it's just hard
Yeah, it's incredibly difficult to make it to a grand final no matter whether you came from the upper bracket or the lower bracket
But to keep your cool to keep persevering through it and for both of these teams
They have not lifted a Blast slam trophy, right?
We've had winners in the form of Betboom, Tundra multiple times, Liquid earlier this year as well,
but Yandex at Blast Land 5, they made it to a grand final against Tundra, and they got 0-3, right?
It was not even close when they played it there, and I was expecting this to be the complete inverse
when we see them make a grand finals again, a 3-0, but yeah, that one game slip-up tee,
maybe it's enough of an opening for LGD, South American roster, to come along and lift that trophy.
I mean, I think a lot of the fans are kind of wishing that. Everyone wants to see the reverse sweep,
especially in a year of competitive Dota that has been dominated by European teams, both Eastern and Western.
When you look towards JanDex, if they win this tournament, they'll be the second most decorated organization in the year.
Like, you know these teams are winning. LGD, they're kind of sitting on the sidelines like,
we want to be part of the club, we want to be there too, like especially with TI.
Let me in, let me in.
Let me in, exactly. And they still have to play TI qualifiers.
That is like, still the scariest thing that. Imagine being other South American teams and fans right now,
hyping up LGD in this moment, but then realizing,
Oh, we have to still play them in like two weeks time in TI qualifiers is just yeah
They're really just important toilet for both these teams
The other thing about being 2o up in a grand finals and then losing a game is you have to make adjustments
For the first time Quinn and this is where I wonder how much of a knee-jerk reaction
Is Yannick's gonna have in a draft when it comes to bands because they've always focused on taking out the whisper bat rider
But now he has such a display on darksia
Do they react in that regard? Not necessarily to the first phase, but also ensuring that he doesn't get any other
Comforts that have garnered him success at slime 7. I hope not. I think the battle should be permanent for the entire series
Absolutely, no chance you get this. Yeah, I think part of the reason why the dark series is so good in the games
It's looked because he's picked it in shadow fiend and he's picked against drought two heroes
It's amazing against it's not the kind of hero you can be blind-picking whenever the hero gets counterpicked
It's really rough because not only do you have the bad lane
maybe have the bad game too.
And so I think you just need to be a little more careful
about how you pick the shadow fiend in particular
because Whisper has shown he is,
even with the worst lane phase, you can imagine.
Oh yeah.
He still owns.
So that says something about that matchup
that maybe it's too bad that we need to be careful
about when we pick it.
Yeah, I feel like the adjustment that is for LGD
is try and replicate what you just achieved, right?
Like sacrifice a support or someone else early in the draft.
Give Whisper information,
then enable the counter pick through that.
If you can find a draw or some here like this
to kind of progress the draw, perfectly fine as well.
I really feel like Whisper, he is the key to winning this Grand Finals, and you want him to have those lane matchups, sorry, game matchups, because clearly lane matchups don't mean anything in this game.
Apparently not. Apparently not, but game matchups, that's what I care for for Whisper.
The only thing, or like a hero that we haven't seen too much in his Grand Finals that I wonder about is the bird. I think Kez has not been, so he's not been picked.
So don't really remember if he's been overly banned in the series either
And I think if you're looking at like maybe so you can't really ban the dark seer
Which means you probably don't want to like really pick a range here because like Quinn said that's when they picked that hero
So maybe looking at more of the melee carries or even saving Watson's pick for later. Maybe that's what they're looking at
He has not been banned just to put your mind at ease there
So you're not imagining or forgetting anything because you're still fully on top of all of that
But we're going to get on top of our game number 4 draw
because I want to see if there's going to be a conclusion to this grand final.
The ball is very much in Yannick's court here with the fact that they lose the previous game number three
And they have to think to themselves where are the adjustments going to be made?
They are gonna have first pick so puts them in a slightly more comfortable position because at the end of the day
Whatever deemed OP hero is let through they're gonna get their hands on it
Yeah, keeping the man's consistent. I like it. No, those were not the problem that game
Yeah, also if you look back at that game, you're up like a million gold
I think that's kind of how
they should take the one
adjustment is scale is good.
Neither one of these teams is
playing that fast. And so if
you have the comfort of being
able to sit back and chill a
little bit, you don't need to
push the temple. I think that's
to the benefit of both teams.
LGD East. What the dogs about
actually they do that and
dogs about that is that is
cool. That is a lot of
respect again. We've been
hyping up whisper saying that
he's kind of like the X Facts
for LGD and it's. I think
he's kind of like the the x-facts for LGD Yandex in their extended break clearly have come to the
same conclusion. I'm on a snap file. I mean that is kind of like you go down the pecking order right
like we saw that wonderful graphic there are some pretty cool options still in play for WESPA
but LGD right the Trian ban I believe they yeah of course they hadn't done it in game one too that's
because of course Yandex played it so they are putting a lot of stock on this hero three games
three wins so far in the grand finals. It also goes again to think that what Yandex should be
thinking about or likely are talking about is to keep Watson on his range type heroes,
which is, you know, he just shines on them, whether it's the TA, it's the draw or it's
the SF.
Because of course, the Darkseer is connected to a respect to Whisper, but also because
it kind of is a type of heroes Watson wants to play.
Am I missing anything?
Whereas like, if LGD don't ban draw, Yannix just takes it.
And if they ban draw now, Yannix can just take Kez, the hero that has been unpicked
on Bansford for the finals.
Is there an additional hero that I'm missing here?
I mean, there's Puck if you pick Kez and you're probably getting Puck responded.
And then it's a matter of if you want to play that game.
It's been banned. It's been banned to all games.
It's just the different stages.
The Puck?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, okay.
So it's definitely a hero they're thinking about.
Just the different points.
They actually banned Invoker.
I really like this band.
I like it a lot.
It's their best scaling hero.
I think it's CJ's best hero.
And it's also a hero that is okay to have a bad laning phase.
And CJ has a bad laning phase all three games.
And so I think this makes sense.
And it's a really good read.
I like this a lot. Yeah, it's kind of like an emotional read on the finals rather than like the strategic of what's the best hero for this
What's the best here for that? It literally is CJ. You're kind of struggling boss. Mm-hmm
We'll put the pressure back on your side of the game for
Well, I I do agree because we talked about his performance and I think also
like what we mentioned with the scaling overall and I think it is very true now the
Doctor band makes even more sense. Doctor is always and has always been a very good response
Doesn't matter if you're carrying nature's profit or plus five like against plus five. It's even better. So yep your I like this this opener
Now there's a timber response though. Oh, yeah against what is a core nature's profit?
So it's not like the other game they picked where they just see one tree and protect there and there's a timber saw
And it's not quite the same thing now you see a carry matchup talk to how whistler likes to get game matchups
They are gonna go for it. So it's
It's juicy. It's all it scales well now. It's not
Ultra one-sided I think fury and is fine something in the world
but Timbersaw is definitely good at Nature's Prophet, so this is a solid response.
Very much so. I would hope that LGD also protect himself in a different way,
because Nature's, he can go mid. I don't think he's a great mid hero,
but you can still craft a safe, and if you want to, mid Nature's Prophet can buy
Urn into Vessel, and I believe CJ has played it once in his tournament,
obviously it was maybe like also relying on, you know, going up against a mid Viper,
but just keep it in mind, it is important, like at these stages of the game you cannot
take anything for granted, it's like, oh this is a carry Nature's Prophet,
like be open to different ideas. Yandex game for like other than the Husker band, like everything is
like a read on the mode against Batred as well, right? But like the Darkseid band, now a spirit
breaker band, like I don't think coming into game one would have ever entertained at least Darkseid
spirit breaker being a key set of bands that Yandex would be trying to utilize, but and they are
very much in like mode reaction coming into this game. Yeah, it's true. And I mean, we saw it from
LGD in the past couple of games where they lose a game the next game, they ban two of the heroes.
And now, Deannex is doing a similar thing, and there can be validity there if you think they're crucial to LGD's fundamentals.
They need those heroes, nothing else really works.
But if they can find replacements, then you've set the bands on fire, right?
So it's a question of, have you made the correct read that these heroes are really important for them, or are they just like another hero in the mix?
Did Malady ever play Support Nation of Prophet on Gaming?
Yeah, you can play it.
Okay.
So that is at least a consideration if they find a carry.
Of course, depending on the four position setup, that maybe Watson can utilize at the close of the second phase.
I think 5 profit is very weak against Timber. Like, even if you find a good carry,
he's still kind of free farming in the lane.
I'm not picking the profit 5 to counter the Timber. It's more to make moves elsewhere.
So when Timbers are applying pressure to the carry, you're like ganking the mid, denying runes, blocking camps, killing carries.
I mean, you'll gain something by having a better carry matchup, but
It depends I think what you're aiming for it will not slow down the timber, but it will give you tempo elsewhere
There's that puck band that you're talking about as well Quinn
Yep, very very reasonable
It's just it's a nasty hero
We've seen it a lot of times throughout this tournament even if you have counters to it a lot of times those counters aren't enough and disc and
I think especially the end is can there are surges bill buying that I'm on buck
It's a really broken combo because you just can never burst him in any context. It's impossible
It's a black hole or chronosphere, so yeah
It's just a support out of face most likely for LGD
Yeah, this underlord ban is really specific to me that says they're banning for something on 1617 because it's not banning underlord for timbersaw
That's ridiculous. Yeah, so there's something that they're picking up next. It's not being whatever the 1617 is this underlord is for
Absolutely, they potentially run back in like the Sven carry that was all you might do that Sven carrying to underlord
You don't really get to play the lane, there's constant firestorms, they'll carry match up into profit like
I mean, he's also playing Naga sirens and multiple other heroes that get countered by underlord
So this is some of the more specialty heroes
There's one underlord band kind of covers at least two to three heroes that I can think of
I mean, it's also like when you see profit overall, actually no matter the role of the hero
Whether it's one, two or five, usually illusion heroes definitely are ones that come to mind
You just mentioned the Naga even if it's like a TV or something else. So I
We'll see a little bit more on the next double take
And I wonder what they're actually look for on 4. Everyone's been banning Caudal the entire tournament, the annex just lost with it, and have they lost faith in it. That's the question.
Sometimes it just takes one loss and these finals to be like, I don't want to play it.
And that can mean a lot for the rest of the series, and now suddenly you don't believe in a zero.
And when you start giving up on heroes, that means it's easier for them to ban the ban stuff that's more specific, instead of like, we have to ban this.
That gets opened up, it can mean a lot.
There's always he played the rubic earlier. I don't know if you want to like do it yet. You know, you see two guys
It's okay
Okay
Profit we have forgot to consider the CJ mid profit potentially
So maybe this profit was actually a three lane flex between and three role. It's true
Like I just wonder now that I hope that LGD will
Like cover it because you understand that it is an option and that it's likely coming out. I think it's I think it's for fury in
That can also be true. It's a force. Yeah
Furion because I think I think you just prop it is really good against Bane in land
Because normally Bane is like a chat of fighting but you've got these trees who fight him back
So you can actually it's a hero that can fight Bane on the side
Which is the hardest thing about this hero to deal with is that you can't pull the wave and he's really good at fighting
Do the support
You need answers to this naga. This this hero is a problem
And you guys put it together, you were saying the Underlord has to be a pre-band for their 16-17
and Naga is one of those heroes that does not like to play into it.
Where can we go?
Like you need to look at some Naga counters because the three heroes you have right now, they don't propose shit.
Okay, tell me what is a Naga counter without saying hero names.
What needs to exist in heroes toolkit to counter?
You want to be able to play the map nicely and like have wave shove and like also
I think AoE damage was always nice like you were looking at heroes like I think Necro in the last game was also an option for them
I think it could be an option again for them this game on 18 if you want
Heroes like life see that traditionally you want heroes that can also like man up and fight and actually kill her and they have an easy access of killing illusions
Yeah
With the prophet and the sf you are looking more towards either the mid lane or the off lane to do that
So it's like you want like the the the leshies or the underlords the beast in the old version of acts
Where it was like OPA we damage right like just so then you can rip free illusions
Me to think what DM can play here. I mean they get dooms the corruption guess what so I say is bad and I'm already gone
Is there another DM hero that she likes to just beat the Naga siren?
I'm not sure how dawnbreaker is it gives you some way fixed when they have issues killing illusions pangolir is not bad
Yeah, pango is good
Necrophos is honest is interesting it it makes their lineup weird again as the problem
They don't think there's one clock or could do stuff, but it is great against
Naga siren for sure and I don't want nature to be made anymore. I think when Quinn said that this is a
Sox of profit. I think this is where this hero should be you need at least like two good heroes against Naga
And it's great if it's two chords. Okay. Yeah, it was a great suggestion. This is cool
And I think this it does make a lot of sense. We don't know yet exactly where this is going
I would prefer if it goes mid, but if you want it to go mid you need to ban for it to be able to go there
So you need to protect it
So if LGD can maybe find some pigs where the Necro doesn't go there, you know that could help them
I mean, I just like the idea of it just going off lane into Naga Siren just full free farm
I mean, it's gonna be a little greedy, but
It's fine. I think it's like yeah
The greed is fine like we saw how the TA Doom side lanes were able to free farm
I think DM just buy your radiance from one side SF will farm with the clock the other side
And then you kind of create this like nature's profit plus CJ kind of map movement where they can kind of enable each other
Whilst you're you know your greedy carry enough in a farming
Like the embers etc. That's kind of what you want CJ to be on
Yeah, I think the Viper Ben sets up for it somewhat too. I mean it opens up a lot of options
It's also really good against necrophos mid. Yeah, one of the few heroes that can be necromancer that heroes so stupid in lane
So it's it's opens up that possibility
And it's good against the embers and things like that
I think regardless you need some hero that makes moves or makes it a little bit easier for you to play on Yannick
You've already got two blobby ranged heroes on SF and Necro. You cannot have another. It's too much
The likes of ember I think are just some of the best option. Yeah embers really good. I
Feel like it should be bad should be banned which means you need to look for another option
They're searching right now. I mean like there's like some weird like old stuff like hudge off lane
But it's kind of too bad against timbersaw. I think yeah, it's rough to play
Cuz that there still is the world where the network like does end up going mid if they just feel like that
Getting this mealy guy in the off lane who does well against naga just like rounds out their draft like more nicely
You know bristleback is in lane
You pretty much free farm, but so does naga in a way does not a free from okay, then it's
It feels like they've really drafted them into a tough position, even as you guys have
been stumped.
It's more like we're assuming Ember's banned, therefore, the what's next is the hardest part.
But if OG don't ban Ember, I think he's kind of like snap picking it quite quickly for
him.
You can pick Brewmaster.
Oh, and the near-necker goes mid.
Brew is decent, I would like that.
You mentioned Pango before, I think he's always like a blue to a draft in some way.
Yeah, should we pango mid if you pick pango? I do not think it should we pango off-lan.
Um, I think, I think any of those are okay. I think any of those are good enough.
This caudal ban is interesting. I, the caudal mid is also very, I mean, it's, it's honestly,
man, their bans have been really deep cuts some of the time. The Zeus ban last game,
and now the caudal ban in this game, they're clearly like, they're still being very thoughtful.
They're not autopiloting because this caudal ban is like, not like a normal ban. It's very much,
We have necrophos shadow theme
Kotal is great against that because he spaces you and slows you so this is a it's a rare one
But it's a cool one. This was the damage of LGD
Like we are potentially to see repeat the last game where it's like now
It has to play kind of the sides of the map
There might be a moment where whisper gets shut down in lane
But he can kind of recover a little bit like we are seeing the same script of game three to four
Of course, I don't we'll get the last pick so he'll get to see if it is necroman or not to so he's trying to find a counterfeit
but LGD do need to be mindful. They cannot mispick Tylong's hero. Their draft can come
crumbling down. I think they've done a pretty good job setting themselves up to be comfortable,
but they still need to get that kind of fifth hero to bring their draft a bit more to life.
Man, it's difficult. I can pinpoint. I think it's Brewmaster, Pangolier.
Yeah, Brew, Pango is fine. You mentioned Dawn, which I think is also okay.
It's a bit worse, I think. Oh, wow.
I mean, that's, it's fine. It gives them the cash they didn't have last game, which is nice.
You've got some bots, Necro, fixing waves, you got Nature's Prophet fixing waves.
So I think you have relatively enough wave clear. Storm also was buying Lotus this patch,
which is really good against Bane and it's good against Iron compared to like Mantis or Gryphs.
I think it's pretty nice. So it's, it's, it's a good pick. There's something wrong with Ember's
already banned, so it's puked. So the two hardest counter out as well as Huskar and Viper,
all of the stuff people in responding to Storm with is gone. So it's not that easy to actually
deal with this, and he's got 10 seconds.
Okay.
I think QWOP is good overall, I would say, for Deagraph. You don't seem too excited.
It's fine. Yeah, I think it's pretty good, actually.
Because overall, when you have Naga, I think it's nice when people abuse the fact that you have good maps to actually kill heroes.
I think Hoodwing plus Timber will get killed somewhere. Bane plus QWOP or Hoodwing plus QWOP also around the map can get some kills.
You're not in too much threat of an anxious profit ganking you sing with a clock and you should do well in the mid lane
I am just looking at Yandex and that once again that this side lanes should farm like nekro to naga
It's farming SF to timber it is farming like the side lanes there clear and for LGD
You're looking at Thailand to bring that magic once again to try and find a killer the storm spirit
Maybe to get some active runes and be gifted some assistance by his supports, but I think the Yandex
It's just chill hit your creeps play your lanes and then get into the game
Don't give LGD that comeback potential that you had in the last game and then of course LGD
You gave Tyler a last bit queen of pain
You didn't have much time for it
But you need to activate him because he's a lot of your life because again like I said the sidelines
It is a bit of a comeback game for them for LGD. If it's a repeat of game one or two or three for Tyler
I don't think he needs to be activated. He'll do that himself. Oh, he'll do just fucking on his own
That's for sure
Overall, I'm a I'm a big sucker for Naga. I think the hero is amazing
But in this draft, it is by no means as good as it was in the last game.
Both Nekro is very good, like one of the best.
Storm also, as the game progresses, you're quite good.
I would slightly lean on Yandex,
but it also relies a lot on how the first 5-10 minutes go.
Can CJ hold his ground?
What can the supports do?
Do they get off to a normal game because they need it?
Yeah, I'd say Yandex is slightly favored,
but it's like, it's geek-dependent on gameplay.
So much can swing one way or the other.
And I'd say Tylong is in a position to run away with it again if he so chooses.
I mean, Berthreal a chill. He can't kill CJ, you know, with the time out of four games solo in the middle.
Oh, let him cook, man. Let him cook.
I can feel the oil.
I feel like all of the LGD fans out there are definitely hoping that happens there.
But more importantly, a man who is also approaching hour 10 along with our players on the side of LGD,
is their coach, Kaps, who's joined with Raya.
I am here with Katz, and I'm so excited to have you here. It means we've gone further than we thought.
It was looking scary. What was the main change? Was it in draw? Was it in playstyle? How did you guys make the comeback?
I think everything, I think we're adapting. I think the index is like this style of play that's different from every single team this tournament, which is really cool.
Props to them. And like, we didn't have a lot of time to prepare, so we're adapting materials.
And like they have so many heroes that we have to accept some bad lane matchups to survive last game
Let's see if we are gonna survive this one again
And how much momentum do you feel like the team got from that last win like did the morale just go right back up?
I think enough if we are to win the series. I think this is what we needed
Start of the game. It was looking grim and we managed to come back from it
Even I was very low energy at some point already because I'm tired, but I got a boost
Now we're right back in it now tell tell the fans at home. Are we tie in this series up? I hope so. I think we we are
Hell yeah, let's see how it goes
Thank you very much there
Game for here in the grand final plus lamb seven between yandex and LGD a
LGD making quite the comeback in that third game.
It's now 2-1, of course still in favour of Yandex.
They just need this one win to try and close this series up
and take the championship title, Yandex.
Can LGD push them to a game of five?
We're about to find out, ladies and gentlemen,
because it's time to get into game four!
So game 4 Fog, what do you want to go for with the drafts?
We're seeing some similarities from both sides in particular from the two carries.
Yep, the two of them.
So the change-ups are that I feel like both teams have kind of changed the way that they're
looking to go and just transition into the late games.
I think both teams have great late game.
If we do get to that point, even if they're on even footing, it's not like one team is
like, oh my god, we're super far behind by any means.
I feel like this one does have the potential to go to this 50-60 minute mark, which would be pretty cool.
However, I will say the thing that Cap was saying is some concerns perhaps for the lanes.
There are some counter picks that we did see.
They do the switch up, they pick the NP, the Timbersaw comes down, and then WHAM!
They switch it to the support, and now it's a Timbersaw versus a Clock SF, which has destroyed these Timbersaws in lane.
However, we've seen the Timbers recover afterwards. We'll see how that goes.
And I think this Necro pick, they're looking to have more answers versus the Naga Siren.
Mid lane though, Tylong has had the edge in almost all three lanes and this time he has a counterpick.
Exactly right, in this matchup it's very clever to see opportunities to get early kills.
I'm excited for this game.
Jiro Junio is going to have to be very careful in the laning phase.
I'm super excited for this game and lots of different, I mean there's a lot of stuns this time around,
much more than last time we did see Yandex running into some difficulties of holding heroes down.
This time they deal up the clock, which will help.
Not the most stuns, but they do help.
Four bounty runes to start this off for Yandex. Oh god. Well
That's a fantastic start here. It's it's not like last game though where Watson already had two kills
That's true. Would you would you rather play against an SF on a lineup this cop for bounty runes or an SF on a lineup
It gets two kills before the beginning of the lane
Maybe maybe you take the bounty room one. Honestly, I think the bounty room one. Yeah, I think so and SF was pretty scary
I mean one thing for sure, surely there's gonna be no way that Watson gets the start that he got last time.
If they try to play the lane normal on the side of LGD, that might happen, but I don't think they'd want to play the lane normal.
You just try to get what you can out of this lane as much as possible.
Let's see how this mid lane goes.
Because Tylon, he has played this mid lane super well versus Jira, killing him in...
Is it all three games?
Kill him at least twice, right? He killed him in two of the different lane matchups, so that was actually very cool to see.
And that's how DM does with this Necrophos in the off-lane playing versus Yuma.
This one feels like he can apply quite a bit more pressure than someone looking at dying in particular.
Sure.
Pressure was still applied last game, right?
And Yuma showed on the Naga Siren.
The pressure doesn't matter too much, because as long as he's able to still have the time to recover,
and he really did recover, and when he was able to hit the jungle and barely died really for the majority of the game,
is this Naga Siren.
The difference is though that Necro is a counter versus Naga as the game goes on all throughout, right?
Rather than one dying, it's not really a counter in any means versus a Naga Siren.
It's impression the laning phase and then afterwards Naga hard counters you, so...
This does feel like it's pretty different than a strategy that we are seeing in the next gopher
with this triple scaling hardcore. And DM Curry just walks in and then dies.
Okay, whoops. Slip up there. Getting laid into the night.
7-5 on the SF. It'll be complete free farm for Watson
It's nothing that this lane can do with the mid lane and the timber soul
So we'll see what the Olocor wants to do with that because he can't play the bottom lane
Let's see how much he's gonna rotate on this hood wink. Yeah, well at least keep control
Well, yeah, yeah, Thailand wasn't actually able to get to the top one, sir
I'm gonna stop that reef. You're coming in
At least a two lane win that we are looking at three and X Tylong
We'll see how he does in the mid matchup as we said should have the advantage over that storm spirit
I'm sure Junus didn't pretty far on the first few waves. Yeah, doing quite nicely here
And in these sort of games, how many levels are you taking in the dagger on the court now?
Well pushing it past I guess like the third point is the limit, right?
Yeah, the second point sometimes is the limit we'll see a Tylong just wants to play for kills
Perhaps we're gonna see more points on it, but we've been seeing people stray away from it even as much as I was gonna say
This matchup I think people just go scream
I feel like this is kind of Red Sea the quap lean back into the daggers
As you say other quaps in the mid were completely stray away from them
The worry is when you do this build if you do not win the lane your recovery is quite horrendous
And also you will be put in a point where you have like level 1 blink in a lot of situations too
If you do go for like 3-1-4 or whatever it's gonna be
So we'll see how Thailand does Pivot and see how he does in the lane because yeah so far
Missing so many CSO and he just missed 200 the tower for free
Okay, he does get that one, but he missed literally two for free was arranged grief
No, I imagine you're not gonna put another point in the diagram
Cuz you're not winning the lane at the moment
We'll see we shall see sure juniors
Having a pretty chill time. Yes doing much better this time around at least in this early start here
Watch this free farming, Necro free farming and Naga this time is going way more pressure in the lane the last time.
That is true, this is...
belly, getting any CS'er.
And perhaps it's also the Nature's Prophet, not just the Necrophos, because I'm watching the Bane.
Yeah.
Like, KJ usually Bane is a lane Dominator, but versus Nature's Prophet you can do absolutely nothing, the Treen's just...
They beat the crap out of you.
Malady.
Will be just fine. Looking to just mess with Whisper here.
Are you planning to Treen?
Does it need corn?
Oh, it doesn't even have acony, so I guess it'll just malady.
Cannot get too many CS. This laning advantage is pretty rough already here.
Last time they had to deal with kind of like an SF having already killed a star.
This time they're going to have to kind of deal with everybody having a pretty good star.
And we do have to say, right, the Darkseer was a massively contributing factor into them having the counter versus the SF.
This time around, it's a Timber. It's not the same type of means of, yeah, you get better as the SF gets stronger.
You can group up and just run with five-man eye on Shell like we saw them do last time to come back and kill Chira.
Timber is a very independent hero. You're playing for yourself, not for your team.
We will see how they do recover. I think this is a pretty brutal start in the lane series they do get. First blood.
first blood. Yeah this this bottom lane is gonna be a pretty scary place to show your face if you're any of the expert.
Uh whisper is pulling the wave but Watson has his boots delivered at the same time.
Whispers very low. He's got timber chain.
I mean, oh, oh, oh, he's totally off so whisper will be totally fine now.
Yeah, look, Watson will dance his way back. Well, that's totally fine. Cogs are on.
Into the tier two. He's gonna get pushed under the tower and never mind, he's about to find a tall male if he's got it.
Ronaldo!
Alright.
Well...
3K lead.
And the mid lane, he did just fine.
He did good in the matchup.
Now they're looking to pressure him with the BAME rotation.
Oh, and the lanes are broken already at this point.
And it's not in a good way for LGD by any means.
They're just, they can't really stay in their lanes,
so they're looking to just play around the mid to shut down the storm,
who has not been shut down.
This is a...
Last game was a worrying start.
This might be an even more worrying start.
I think you probably take the the start of last game on this one. I think maybe they should give what it kills is
Just kidding
But the thing is though is this time Watson doesn't have a massive kill streak either
We're human last time killed Watson and got like 1300 gold from it, too
This is I mean it's early days of course, but you're 4k leaders six minutes in
DM's gonna get a crazy regens timing if this continues
They'll get malady. We'll get the kill time. We go get themselves a kill on the board lgd
And just like last time I do want to see do not take the kills from the cores
Give them to every single one of these cores on the side of LGD tower gone six minutes in
Dm able to take away the safe lane tower. Oh god
And we will use this metric because you know clean was mentioning it does make a difference a lot of times that don't above
You know that don't a plus thing that we do look at the win percent is last time was pretty 50-50 the whole time
It's time already. Yeah guys this ain't
This they're looking great. It's a guys. They got quite bounty
They got first blood and they've won all three lanes. Well two and a half storm is 50 50 is right now
They did try and see if they can maybe get a chance to jump sacks of there with Thailand swinging across but
Sacks of new they need help for theirs watch it. Yeah, they cannot let Watson get away with this keeping out though
The only stone was used
Malady should be able to set up the kill out to him here
And claim their shot
One positive
Okay, that would have been miserable the other corp gets the kill so
They get something they get something but I get the shrine pressure. It's building up. It's gonna be there
And this time around this is not a four protect one like I was mentioned
It wasn't for protect one around Watson this time around three hard
Hard scaling course especially to another side
Quick rotation for cheer junior sets up for Watson to take down King jungles
5k lead, 7 minutes in, and they cannot rely on Whisper, just coming in with Crazy Farm,
with Ion Shells on two different heroes being able to rely on him and him getting this wall
of the SF2, so it's a very difficult, a different type of archetype of game that they do have
going on here to come back.
Two supports, just as much farm as LGD's position 1 and position 3.
I'm not a great sign, well, at least your game 3 was basically the LGD playing the game
on hard mode.
Now they're playing on like nightmare difficulty.
I was gonna say the same difficulty, I like that one though.
Yeah, trying to recover this sort of stuff, but maybe that's where they flourish, you know,
that's what they need.
They need a tough challenge to rise up to.
This will be, I mean, it's early as we said, but this feels like it's gonna be the toughest
challenge because it feels like the cores are, the Necro in particular, right?
He kind of came out of nowhere since neither team has really looked at it or touched it in this series.
Yeah.
And now he's got it versus the non-assirants.
He's gonna get one of the quick irradiances.
He is.
And overall, yes, they have magic damage to go through, but it's gonna take a lot of time.
And these Necros, when they get these timings, we've seen them just have a clear separation.
So Whisper is getting some time to recover, does have these stacks to go back to.
So Thailand, he did get the region.
This is pretty nice for him at least to try to make an aggressive move.
Can he go for DM?
They're gonna try.
He's not really gonna have the mana to burst him.
It's got regen when running.
That's not happening.
They're trying.
Sprouts gonna stop King Jungle's getting his hands on DM though.
Maybe they can get Saksa.
Spends so much time on wants to dive for the...
They're healed up.
He's not gonna want to dive at all.
It's too risky, sir.
It doesn't have to point to the Sonic wave either from the skill build that he's had done.
that he's got low 4 and Dan can just heal. They have triple lotuses up there, or they had triple lotuses.
6k lead, super early here. Watson switching the build a little bit here, as we're saying he's no
mass commanders this time around rather than looking for the pressuring items like he did last time.
Probably just looking to farm a little bit more, right? Not feeling as much that he needs to get
involved because they can kind of chill with this game. They scale very hard. Yeah, all three
course having a farm. On the index. Off the mark with the bushwork.
How do I ruin it? We'll just get the knife.
The outgaining some cards. Those hurt.
What was it that last time in 10 minutes? Did I even get the 6k? Maybe it was 5 or 6k.
I think 10 minutes even.
I can check. I think it wasn't this severe
on the goal 10 minutes. I don't know was it was it was 6k. Okay, about the similar point. But as you
say, this one looks more concerning because the lead is very much split across multiple elements
of what Yandex have on their lineup and whisper all on the SF and whispers playing more of a selfish
hero, right? He's not playing this team here. They're just going to run around again. All those
coaches were mentioning and it's not a counter versus the SF the similar way as the Darkseer.
Starts here, S tier vs SF, Timber, how do we do it?
Should be able to play Saksa.
They got him.
Little bit of a bonus there, very much needed for Yuma.
Especially Yuma, right? He is actually so far behind in this game compared to last time.
Last time I feel like he was actually keeping up with the other cores.
This time he is truly feeling that pressure from the lane.
Whisper, starting to do the ancient stack.
So is at least gonna have his net worth inflated massively here.
Yeah, not the same thing, cannot just iron shell people and run at them, but they did
last them to get the recovery.
DM, how's that relic looking?
400 away, it's not the absolute fastest, but pretty damn fast.
And not bad at all, especially when it's coming from the off-lane role, right?
Yeah.
I like that we did see LGD, even though all of the early game has gone pretty disastrously,
they did block out some camps, so they were blocking the ancient, they were blocking the
hard camp or the medium camp, to be able to prevent that acceleration of farm from the
the necrophos.
Maladysix, deal the core as well.
I think for an aggressive move and cheer this time around, he's doing the same
both. He's going for the creeps, he liked it.
This time maybe not anything specific that he's looking to disperse, but
he's looking to play with the team.
Bonsip.
I'll get the arcane for it.
And the Grieves overall right they do feel very good with something like Necropost, so
he'll be happy about that.
The Chira is getting it, and we're 12th in advantage, and there's that radiance.
So DM's farm is going to pick up quite a bit, and it looks like they want to try and connect
with him while we do smoke.
It does feel strong, Chira also does have the Arcane Rook to play around, see how hard
They're gonna go quite deep here for the dive onto you, my hook shot as well from the side, good cocksayer to catch on on the both of them, they can't save you, he's gone, the site comes down on the king jungles.
And the cocks are hitting everybody, Malady.
QD.
They brought everybody to try to respawn, but they still have QD.
They've got to pop the glyph.
Tylong.
Careful.
Good cocksayer for Malady.
Malady's owning them.
And they'll kill Thailand's Korea as well. That was the Kaia. Oh god
7k lead it's growing very quickly here in Yuma dead again. He almost has the same net worth that's a clock worth
I mean it does the support
Pretty fun, but yeah
Carrie being pretty poor
GPM actually 290 that is the same. I mean they put insane pressure on them in this game
Both them very limited
KJ, still not quite having the level 6 either.
So most of this early game, it's got to play around Tylung and speak of Tylung.
I'm just hit by the cars.
Just Malady doing so much on this clockwork.
Fight up for a beautiful lane for Watson.
They're appreciating the Malady clock right now.
Let me get some damage numbers.
I got to see if this clockwork number one.
Yeah, he's playing phenomenal.
Even in the last game where they lost, you know, you got to remember how much Malady
did for Watson in that lane when he was playing the game right.
Malady on these Banes and these clockworks
An absolute nuisance for how would you need to deal with he's running the team fights
The timber and the clock run in lose their entire mana pool even their health to it's doing so much damage because he is level 7 already at this point
They're smoking to try to catch something they have the fiends group finding the clock
You know not really what they want to find and not really wanted they can find you know Malady
Very much prepared to deal with these sort of bushes and plays coming in
They do not want a fiend's grip of clockwork either and it might settle for him, but
They're getting under the tower there. This probably feels kind of good.
Don't need the fiend's grip either. You just go for the kill with basic abilities
Wouldn't he get out cleanly though?
They'll finally get him, but now can they get away because indeed time for the chase down to come in
The song's gonna come out but does not save king jungles. The song is pretty tiny at the first level
Can't even fail them out Yuma trying to get involved to help the team
but that is just gonna slow down his farm even more so here.
So they get the clock, but they lose the tower,
they still lose the support themselves.
10k lead already. DM has bots, has radiance,
socks has vessel, pretty much finished up from that mistaken two
coming on the second here versus the timber.
And they're just completely broken out this lever up.
We saw last game, right? They kind of got this 5 to 6k lead
and they could not advance it.
This quarter.
This time around, completely different story, 10k lead.
And this time I would say that they're draft.
It has the potential to be the outskilling draft too if we get to like late game too, so...
They're gonna trust me on a timer.
Yeah, they have to get something, they have to get a big core kill, it feels like to open up the map for Yuma.
Yuma just has no space.
Who can they find though?
It's not easy targets to kill, their damage is quite limited.
I'm the super group top.
Watson has 2000 HP, I don't know if you can go for him.
Doesn't look like they're going to find anyone. Maybe Chiragunia? No.
Not an easy one either. They don't know where the clockwork is, so they can't just go for
these blind fiendscript plays and we'll just get cancelled.
And they've got the runes here, 4 Chiragunia on the storm spirit. Top tier 2's gone, 16
minutes in. This one is. Accelerating fast here, 10k lead at this point. They've got
the vessel for Whisperer ready too. KJ yet to find an angle for the fiendscript. Malady,
scouted them.
Launch it.
Straight on the king jungles.
They're at the start.
They can save it.
They're going to group up.
They're actually going to try to kill Chura Juni, but the hookshot now comes in from Malady.
The roots are holding back.
DM's turned up.
And that's going to be the key to just getting out ahead.
They do not want to fight Necrophos at the moment.
Watson kills up Thela Core.
They lose both the supports.
Whispers having a TP out.
They took out one.
They said, done yet?
Given up your two supports, but getting the chance to kill a core.
the chance to kill a core. They'll take it at this point.
Something. Yeah, it's something.
Exchange of XP and gold is about the same, but Yuma gets some space and breathing room
to go to hit some creeps because he hasn't really been able to hit creeps this game.
This might be one of the lowest net worth Naga's I've seen in 17 minutes. They've done
an excellent job of just not letting it farm. I mean out of the six cores in the game right
now, he's the second lowest on CS. And he's not quite where he'd hoped to be as the Naga
So close to KJ dying before he does get that feed to his world to a fraction of HP.
And just for the time being right, anytime DM shows up, you leave the fight.
You cannot deal with the Necroforce running at you at this point in time.
The Necro and the SF at the moment are too much to deal with the storm. They can't pick off.
Malody, looking for a catch here. They're TPing very aggressively through Whisper here.
Reaper is at the ready.
Might be a bit too much for these two alone to dive in.
They've got the NPTP always, so that's true.
Yep, they've got the Global.
And NPTP, they also have boots of travel on DM.
So wherever Sox goes, DM can follow up very easily too, onto these trints.
Some breathing room for Yuma. Much needed.
KJ, looking to be sneaky.
This is not that easy of a kill to go for though.
This is a 2200HPSF.
I mean maybe with Sharpshooter and Sonicwave.
With the three of them, perhaps.
I think you have to try.
Just take what sort of opportunity you get.
2400HPS.
You gotta go through this. I mean he's walked up pretty far.
They're gonna have to push back in the ankle shop.
Gonna get grimped. The backup's now coming in.
Hookshot's there.
They're not gonna kill him.
They'll get the requiem if the song comes in time for you
He's too tanky, Owen. Far too tanky at this point. They almost threw pretty much everything onto him.
He was able to dodge a little bit right, but getting the hurricane pike off.
So that made things a little bit tricky, but he just saw how quickly the rest of Yan-Dae were able to just turn up and keep the SF safe.
He took 1100. I think he still got hit by the sharpshooter, so he took almost the majority of it.
But yeah, just too tanky at this point with the build.
Switched up from last time when we went for a more aggressive one.
This one he's got a bit more of a defensive kind of style.
Whisper.
Sausage is blowing. Here comes the Necrown.
The DM's heading over.
Want to control the Timber.
Oh, the DM didn't buy Shard.
Whoopsie.
Perhaps he was wanting to load a sword before it, I guess, but...
Usually do see them to rush that Shard for the increased farm rate.
They will have to react heavily just to get the cloth kill, but almost getting Chira who will find illusion ruined up, it'll be just fine. Also, they're trying to respond to Chira.
They're trying to respond to these moves. They're trying to bring the numbers.
And as in last game, they were able to make sure that that 5k lead didn't get any more severe.
Maybe in this game, they're going to be able to stop that 10k lead from growing.
That's safe. So far, it's decent.
No doubt about it. They're slowing it down a little bit.
Still, of course, way harder than what they had to deal with and turn around in the previous game.
Hell, Roy, as you said, it's not a 4-protect one. It's not a timer draft from the index.
They do so very heavy, but they've done a good job mitigating how much they are giving up these kills
Tormentor and Roche next thing on the menu CFL GD can keep the lanes in a position to be able to either steal one or contest it
Do what planes in a pretty okay spot Yuma is doing a good job of pushing out the bottom lane
Watson
The requiem plays there coming in with the shadow blade this time does find that we'll call it a solo kill
But he's got backup.
Now he's here beside anyway even if they dick the hans on him.
Comparison now from LGG.
Cheer Juniors.
I'm trying to jump over here, Muff.
They know it's what's real.
Song's not available, the vortex is there.
They're gonna catch the Naga Sauron.
He's dead.
Now the lead's growing again and it's gonna be around that tormentor and rush to the Yandex.
Kill Lufa and get the hookshot.
He might be able to find him a bonus kill.
They're TP'd, they don't need it.
Oh, actually, I don't want that. Okay, they gave him the Lotus.
Oh, I don't know.
Who gave him that? Was that Soxa? Nice little Lotus Passover.
I'm with that.
Two-two.
Sort of pushback, yeah, they can just run it straight down the bottom lane.
They're also bringing in the mid, so you might have the chance to get a couple of tier-two towers here.
They see Whisper.
I don't think he knows the sneaky ward is there.
Two-two, you get him.
And the chain of the vortex drags him back.
The vessel ticking him down and the side comes in.
They got him.
Tylox turned up.
He's jumped him.
Blinks back up, so one retreat is necessary.
It's not really too much you can do here right now.
DM healed everybody up to full.
Can't look for the contest up to 14k.
They're finding those extra pickoffs to keep the lead growing,
not letting Yuma get that space.
Regen Rune spawns bottom two for Chira.
He'll be super happy about that.
Several silver edge now on Watson and this time also yandex. They're not backing up to go for the torment
They're looking for the more impressive place, right?
They're not looking to allow LGD to get any farm on the map with the way that they're moving
They're not even looking at tormenter
Not making any of the mistakes of the last game here yandex
And as he said right multiple times whisper it's it's a game for himself
It's not a game where he's the dark should play for the team not the similar kind of style by any means
Cuba just illusions
What's hunting for well?
Yeah
Coming from the side cards wings gonna be back up whoop up the mark a little bit here
The side they're fucking off with the sprout trance and down the vessels that pile on dead again
Dm racking them up this time four zero one on him
Keeping matched with Watson's farm as well too as we said these necrus farm in insane paces
The support damage is crazy on the side of the Undex and another catch.
The global threat is accelerating.
15k lead here now for the Undex.
Most complete domination in his first 23 minutes.
And Yuma overall right this Naga pick was a bit blind in particular how they did it this
time.
Sure, good versus the SF with the Storm and the Necro.
Very good versus Yura as the game progresses too.
And there's that bush.
Pretty much zero chance for a steal.
They don't have the full team up.
And maybe they could try for a song play, but they're not going to be close enough.
I don't want to see Yulia go anywhere near a fight.
He needs to try to get to their next item at least before he gets involved again.
Or Watson.
And now the Grieves too for Chirra.
He probably just was anticipating this as well too because it is the build that all the Naga Sirens go.
He already has the counter for the Orcid.
They have creeps, they have Lotus. So Yuma, even when he gets this timing now that he has the Orcid, they have multiple different dispels for it.
A tough game for LGD.
Aghanim's finished up for Whisper.
Chirra. They're afraid of him.
Malady, looking to connect.
Here comes Watson.
They may have done it in that last game, but this one, it's looking like a Mount Everest now to climb.
No deaths yet on Watson, only one on Chira, zero on DM, only losing the supports really
so far in this early game.
Malady with the four deaths for his team, but securing the early game is not a fantastic
way.
I don't know if he can get away from these two.
He's going to try for the TP out, but Jirijun is on top of him.
Those lifts.
It's away in the mid.
Hook shots in.
On to Whisper.
Gox.
Reaper.
Ah, that's better to cut him down.
And you may just come in for this.
No one on top of him tonight, man.
We'll save it for the red cream, or the razors come through.
You may well get the soul of my life.
Oh, he burned.
This is the last time I've burned from DM.
Oh, and this game might just be over.
It's 25 minutes in, Yandex ready to get up to the high ground!
They can just, they'll have to lift to be able to save it.
They could probably continue pushing though, they have the kills, they have to sustain.
They're keeping the push going.
Taiwan.
When you clip on the sidelines, the end's ready to push in.
2-3's gone. 15 seconds until they have to full line it back up, LGD.
They still got Aegis.
Jandex focusing objective.
KJ, they're gonna get the jump on him.
Fane's out.
So hard to step up.
He's done as well now, Watson.
Chira, quick leaves.
Everybody's at full HP.
And their Bracks are gone.
Jandex very easily able to take those 26 minutes in and they can keep going for more.
Still 2 minutes on the Aegis.
They're full health, full meta. It looks like they used zero resources. Whisper. Careful.
They're probably just gonna push it down. It's gone ages. Going for that next racks. There's no way for the Naga Siren to fight this.
And they can taste the victory here, Yandex.
Second set of racks in their sights.
The Jumps there again, they're going to catch King Jungles!
Can't step up.
They're trying to push them back, and the tier 3 is gone!
Ah, this natural pick was just way too good versus this matchup.
DM, just stand to the front.
Easily able to make space for them to clean up that second set.
They can just swing toward top and keep it going.
DM even walking through the base taunting them.
Wasn't it? Jump!
And then we're forwarding the BKBs out from Tyler!
We'll stop them from getting the further grab on Trunner, just back up whilst the BKBs there for the quad.
Backing up, resetting, looking for that final push here.
Yuma needs to get out on the map and try to farm something here, but the skill is to bottom it,
network core, soon to be surpassed by those supports.
Still a minute left on the Aegis. Watson's looking for a kill.
he's gonna get found again he cannot step up over and over and over again another
cliff ages is about to expire in seconds
but they don't care the hook shots in Malady getting it on top of the other
core of the other tower of the 8-hose the other core will be on the back off 5 seconds on Aegis
the final set of barracks exposed now the backup with that Aegis regen to kick in
Keep that pressure going.
Just bring it in every way.
DM over towards the mid.
Don't let them breathe at all.
Jumping forward, Chira.
Once I'm ready to seek in here, with the InvisSET up, they're gonna look for Tylone,
they've got him with the Vortex, and once it's got the damage, Tylone's out for 50,
the song won't save him!
Azjandex!
They'll look to finish up the barracks!
They're celebrating already.
Absolutely, 30 minutes in, the mega creeps are out!
This is LGD, 4 vs 5, can they do anything in this next 30 seconds?
DM is immortal.
Watson.
Whisper.
Nightmare comes down to try and break him out of the combo, but he's burst slow.
Now get the silencer to end the sight, comes in from DM, Whisper's gone.
He'll buy back straight away.
A Yandex, they're not going anywhere.
awful health. They can't do damage to anybody. Not for some time here. 1k per minute already
hit. Throw us a blood grenade, get him Tylong. Can they push them off the tier 4s? Tylong
is literally just throwing blood grenades at the moment. The cookie axe on the bane!
The tier 4. The first one to fall. The ATOS again, but he removes with the Lotus. They're
just healing. The M just keeps popping them in. Full Daedalus now.
Hello. Oh.
The tier 4's a gun. The ancient expose. One big morn.
Chodek from Mali coming in on the back lines. The Kill-Off King jungles. He's out for 30
They're all by the GGs called Yandex.
Well, take the game on with that.
Take the title here at BlastLam7.
And my goodness, fuck, the wins from this team.
They were just on another level.
Very discouraging.
And they had a flip-off in game three.
They've forbidden an entertaining comeback from LGT.
But outside of that, these wins, these leads,
the Yandex was not only doing hand-to-hand finals,
but in so many of the other games in their upper bracket run,
they were just completely ahead.
of anyone that you put against them. And when they got this far ahead, they would never let it slip away.
And you heard it from Kapsu, right? There's so many heroes that Yandex play, so many different things that they have to ban.
This time around, they picked this Naga perhaps a bit early. It gets super hard countered.
Netfost picked as well from DM, runs the show, 8-0, same for Wattson, 10-0 on him.
And just to say as well, considering the recent performances from them, right, they had the showing of PGL where they did not go too hard.
They kind of skip dream league and then they came back in here and they showed you know what went back on top
Taking the first place LGD, of course an amazing run from them. We heard it from cap strike during the drops
He was very happy. I'm sure the boys are gonna be happy as well with how far they came coming in a second
But couldn't quite touch and X ready outside of that one game
Everything else was completely and X as here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, you're brought seven seven champions
Congratulations, team Yandex, win Blast Slab 7, congratulations guys that was an amazing
finale from you.
Chera you dominated that last game, how did it feel to win like that?
I'm good at it, what the fuck.
What do you mean?
You were so good, come up here a little bit more, this is your win.
Yeah I'm glad but I'm good at it.
Fair enough, by this guy?
by everyone fair enough.
Damn, this is your second win with this stack.
It's such a short amount of time after you officially joined.
How does that feel for the future of this team?
I mean, feeling good.
I think we had really big plans to win this tournament
because we practiced for it and we had a bootcamp.
So, yeah, I mean, expectable.
And how good it was.
I wanna grab that man right there, Watson.
Come here.
You got second place twice at Bloss
and now you finally claim the win.
How does it feel to put your hands on that trophy?
Good. Very good.
Anything more? Come on. It's been a journey to get here.
It was a long journey. I'm glad we win.
Yeah, we played maybe not the best Dota but still.
I thought it was fantastic Dota.
And I'm very glad we got to watch it here today.
So, once again, congratulations Team Yandex Blast 7 champions.
That's cool.
That's cool.
An amazing win from Yannix that I really thought
that LGD having a little bit of momentum.
Look who the question is, went to a game five,
but Yandex did so much more in this game
for them, what we've been seeing from them so far
in the grand finals, Kazoo.
They cooked them a little bit too hard.
I think this time around, they were ready for the Naga
with the draft, and also, I think,
overall with the game play, because they obliterated
the lanes already in the game before,
and they doubled down on this even harder in this game.
I mean, it was just kind of beautiful back and forth
with the drafts, and of course, I think for Yandex,
the experience they had being able to understand what LGD was trying to do,
having kind of tinging on to game 3 win, trying to use it in game 4 like that.
That was no match for Yandex when they had the profits, the Nacrophos,
all these beautiful picks just to break them as they did.
Yeah, well look, we did have a couple of words from the players when they were lifting the trophy,
but we're going to have more from Saksa joining us here.
Congratulations. I mean, you've lifted so many trophies in your career,
but does this one feel a little extra special, Saksa?
Yeah, it's nice to be back here.
I mean, I've won here with Tundra before, but now it's nice to do it with a new team with Yandex.
And yeah, it's an amazing feeling.
Yeah, we were talking a lot about the fact that you've given so much to the players in Yandex.
They've talked about it multiple times in interviews, but I want to know from your point of view,
do you feel like you've given them that much, and is there a certain player that you feel you've helped more than others?
I think overall I have helped the whole team.
I helped, I guess, mostly with my lane partner with Dorfling, tried to get on the same page.
I think these guys are really good at Dota, and they shouldn't be on the rest of the
game.
Even if I wasn't on the team, they would do good.
You're too humble, bro.
Yeah, you're really honest.
Like, you're so mean.
I have a question, because usually, I think when you win a tournament, you have a feeling
what it's about and what you're doing better than some of your opponents.
Would you say it's more about individual excellence, or do you think it's one specific part of
the game, whether it's teamfighting or drafting, where you were one step ahead?
I think our idea of how to play the game was better than most teams against the tournament.
I think individually also we performed, but I think overall I think our understanding of what we need to do
It was it was a bit better level than others
Do you think also like did you have something specifically versus LGD that you guys had like prepped either like last night or earlier today like in terms of
Styles in terms of how they play. Yeah, we didn't want to get cheese
We didn't want to give them like, you know, some some of their like a strong picks
Yeah
I don't want to play against Whistleback, but I think they're like a different team than others,
in the sense that you need to understand what you want to do and you need to have an idea against it.
And I also have one more, because so you guys took a break before, but you're also a player,
you have taken breaks before, right? At the right place, right time. I was thinking a bit more,
how do you balance that, and how do you know when it's a good time for you to take a little bit
of time off to then come back and be even better?
It's just about feeling if you feel like you're tired, then you're not motivated to play and if you don't enjoy it
I think that's the biggest one then I think it's just better to like not play so I think right now
I enjoy it and we'll see for how long but probably not too long
You know, I'm getting old
I do want to follow up on that one as well because during your break
We've been talking like how often are you actually playing pubs how long before coming back to a tournament?
Are you guys screaming as a team?
Like where is that balance when it looks like a two to three week period that you're having off usually after a tournament?
have like maybe depends on when the next tournament is, but I think we bootcamp like before tournament
like for 10 days or so over week, and then we play and then we have some time off and
I think to be honest, I haven't been playing pubs yet lately, so I've kind of been lazy
like.
And then you're coming and win.
I mean, right now I started playing more, yeah.
So do you think not playing pubs was helpful?
You know, are you trying to do like a liquid strat where it's like zero pubs, we're one
of those.
I mean, I've always been a type of player, but I don't really need to play that many
I just I watch a lot of that's how I get my knowledge more mostly. Yeah, so make sense
And also in Yandex now coming into the season it's three tournament wins for Yandex
You're at the second most decorated organization
Were you expecting kind of this project to be so successful so quickly or when you joined this roster?
Was it kind of like for the long game where it's like maybe you'd be informed by ti maybe next ti was the plan?
Like did you think it'd be such such a quick turnaround in results?
I think not in the beginning at that
It was gonna be a bit of work at least like for the first few months
I think our results for the first few months were too good for what I was expecting,
but I didn't really expect this at the beginning, but I'm happy.
Circling back, you were talking about you watch more than you really play, right?
That's where you learn.
Is it specific teams that you're looking at,
or is it just the tournaments overall that you're looking at, or even pubs?
I think just players.
I watch players I respect.
It doesn't even matter any role, I can watch any player.
But I feel like if I respect a player and I watch from his perspective what he does,
I can kind of understand more about what the game is supposed to be about.
Would you be willing to reveal your top three most watched players?
I don't know. Amaru's definitely one.
I watch, I guess, for supports, Nigh-Class and Keri, maybe, at all.
Okay.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
And I just had one question in regards to the draft for Game 4, if that's okay.
It's the respect that you talk about now.
Was it respect in regards, like, with the Spirit Breaker, the Ducks?
It was like, you know what, we just want to take all their comfort away from them?
Or was there, like, other kind of big-picture stuff
It was being applied in this fourth draft.
I think definitely respect.
I think in best of five, you need to adjust heavily.
Like in a normal game, we would never band back from the first phase,
but we felt like this year was doing a lot for them.
The spearbacker was also doing a lot for them in terms of how to play the map.
So I think it was just better for us to play, not play against.
Out of your teammates, is there anyone in specific that you're really like proud of
or really happy about when it comes to their progression?
I think Chira.
I think this guy, like every time I walk into the practice room,
he's like the first one there, you know, in the morning.
One of the last ones to leave and he has a really good mentality, he's a very nice guy to play with and I think he's the best for me the most.
Yes, so I guess it's also very easy for you to work with him, like when you tell him, yo, this time when I come to the rune you need to be full HP, full dis, he's very easy to work with.
Yeah, I think him and also all the others, I can't really point to anyone that's kind of not like that.
That sounds good. And my last question is, do they have good mentality, whereas I often with back in the day Eastern European teams, the tail, the back and forth,
Would you say that this team has a good mental when you're approaching these really impressive, like, best of five grand finals?
Maybe in the beginning wasn't so much, but I think they're improving a lot.
We're getting there.
We're getting there.
I think winning tournaments also builds confidence, so I think, and discipline is a big factor, something we talk about in the team.
Okay, thank you.
Can you explain to me a little bit more about the conversations or the progress that you went through for you and DM to get on the same page about laning together?
because he is very different to notice who used to be before this.
He's also different to 33 who used to be before that.
Yeah, it's an adjustment, I think.
We just understand what's important in the lane.
Like, sometimes, like I will tell him, he needs to push the lane in,
but he wants to hold the wave, so right now we're just trying to get in the same page.
What's actually good, what's not good, so...
But it's pretty easy to talk to, that's why I like working with him.
So you still think right now you're not even on the same page?
Like, there is still a lot more development for you guys as a lane duo?
A little bit, yeah. Of course.
That's not even peak form.
Literally like I'm not playing pubs, I'm only really watching, we're not even peak form as a duo.
What do you think is the biggest strength of Yandex then?
I think just individual skill and understanding of the game. Also I'm kind of cursing myself before TI and Riyadh.
I was going to ask this, you can't do this, what are you doing?
I talked to you and you don't seem like a superstitious player at all. You don't have like routine
You don't have this you know pregame ritual by any means
But you actually do believe in the TI sort of quote-unquote curse. I used to believe in it
But I think now it's like it doesn't really matter
It just the curse is real because people get their ego up after the win a tournament before TI
So they start slacking off and they get more frustrated easily
So I think if you have a good mentality going into it and there's there's no curse
But would it make you feel better if I told you there's already technically three teams that have done it beforehand where they won the
Previous of that that they played in and then went on to win ti. Yeah, so it was wings
It was spirit ti 10 and it was falcons last year as well
Yeah, so it's very easy for you just don't we have to do it actually had this conversation before today
I said we did it like before
It's very very possible. I have nothing else as I say worst case, you know, just don't do very well at EWC
Then you can go lift the edges, right? So if you do believe in the curse, there is one buffer tournament 3ti
Yeah, you're still kind of in the clear for the curse. I'm ready to experiment for the
I love that one so much so thank you again for joining us congratulations. I'll let you go and enjoy the moment with you guys
Thank you
So it is always so much fun to get to talk to and I love just the brutal honesty around some of these places
I'm telling you, even the least superstitious player out there will still have those beliefs,
whether it's winning an event leading up to EWC or TI, touching a trophy before you actually
deserve the win for it.
There's so many that supersede what it is about the strength and the mental fortune of
some players.
I mean, the ages means everything, right?
Yeah.
Every Dota player, when you load up the little client, when you spawn into the game, you
see the ages glowing, you hover it for a second, you see all the previous teams, you
want to punch your team that you're currently on into that, again, speaking from the perspective
of Saksa.
I mean, of course, you want to do everything in your power to make sure there are no curses pre TI and
They're doing a pretty good job at it. Yeah, man who knows all about being cursed at TI Quinn
Yeah, you told me I had to roast him I got a one there
How much did you love seeing Yandex be active in that game number four and overall see them?
Ex teammates of yours. What's in a malady lift the Blast lamb seven trophy? No, it's awesome
I'm happy for him and I'm happy that they they found a good home and a good team that works well together
I think Sox talks really highly of the guys and it's for good reason. I think they're all really hard-working
Just just fun guys to be around there a good team that works really well
I think they're they're just good to each other and they they work hard and they love the game
So I mean, you know what what more can you really ask for and you could also like tell not just from what he said
But also by watching them play it's a very improved team with very very improved players
And I think the win that they have here is just it's very well deserved that rafsa good the gameplay is good
It seems like they're all enjoying playing with each other
You can't really ask for more
I mean even from Sam 5 when they got 0's to 3-0'd by Tundra to now it's like they feel like a completely different team
You can even hear it and how he's carrying himself in the interview talking about the players the maturity the discipline all these things
I think Yandex they are very much a contender for TI they very much are a contender to be a top three team in any tournament
They go to so they got to keep the form maybe take some more breaks down the line because clearly it works out for them
I need to be realistic about this
It's not just Yandex that has improved so much over the last few slams that we've seen them participate in but it is
This is LGD as well, not only as an Orc has it been two years since we've seen them participate in Dota, they come in, they get second place, but as this five-man roster as well, everything they've been able to achieve since we saw them in Malta, unfortunately it doesn't end with them lifting the trophy, but we do get a final set of words from them.
I'm here with KJ, obviously, not the results we wanted, but they are very high results.
Like, looking back over your performance in this whole tournament, you excelled and went
so far and the games were so fun.
Most of all, the games were so fun.
Did you have a good time at least, you know, throughout the highs throughout the wins?
Yeah, I think I've got a, I've got to experience a pretty unique set of emotions throughout
this tournament and so I experienced like goods, bad, all of them and I think that's
the best part of the experience I'd say, something very unique and yeah and what I
remember about this tournament is that it's good things more than bad even though we had
a very bad one right now.
I think you will be making many more good memories in the future, obviously looking forward
you guys are going to be playing in the TI qualifiers.
We are all looking forward to seeing how that goes for you.
Do you guys feel confident coming off the back of this?
You defeated so many tier one teams.
You've clearly proved that you're a TI material easily.
So how are you guys feeling?
I feel like we are feeling super good.
We're super confident.
I mean, I can speak for myself.
And I imagine the team also feeling
a little bit depleted right now, because it was a very tiring
set of days.
like yesterday night we played like a two-hour game and then like 12 hours
later we had to play another game so like everyone is super emotionally
depleted and physically depleted so this qualifiers I'm pretty confident we
just need to rest and get ready for it. And obviously a big point that we've
talked about you know with your team throughout this is you know this is the
highest position a South American team has gone in at tier one tournament which
is incredible and we're hoping next time that you guys can lift the trophy
Alright, how important is that to you coming out here?
Of course it's very important, like, before you win an actual tournament, you need to like, it's very hard for you to just win a tournament when you got like top 8 or didn't qualify to all the other tournaments in the year.
So I feel like the first step to win a tournament is getting close to win a tournament, and now we got very close to win one, two games start.
So, yeah, it's just part of the world, let's say, we just need to walk through it now.
Alright, so next time, it's a win. That's all I'm hearing.
Thank you very much for your time. Thank you so much for being here at Blast with us.
I wish you the best of luck in the future.
Thank you, it was possible Shroy. GG guys, we tried.
And it was almost enough from LGD, and KJ being so honest about the grueling set of days that they've had here,
we had six teams arrive at Copenhagen, and over four days have to play a double elimination bracket for themselves,
and they made it through to the Grand Finals after a set of 111-minute gains,
as well as going the distance in all of their best at threes,
and they were just so close to pushing it to that Game 5 in this Grand Finals.
Yeah, you can just tell there's so many real emotions and all the things he's talking about, I think, just about even the fatigue.
Even me watching their games, and I'm not even playing them, they're giving me emotional fatigue from watching and cheering for them and understanding,
is this good? Is this not good? So you can just feel for them because it is difficult, but at the same time, it's a grand finals where you feel like both teams at least won in some way.
And it's not very often you get to see that, but rightfully so for them, they should be happy.
I mean, it's also like you hear from the interview, like KJ, he's saying, like, getting to, like, playing on a Sunday.
That's not a thing that every team can do, and it's an experience that you need.
You don't just go from top 8 to winning.
So having that in the tank, I am expecting them to win a tournament at some point.
Be it this season or next, from TI to now, like, every time you hear him speak, like,
you know the kind of the burning, the passions inside him.
So it just feels inevitable that they are going to, you know, lift a trophy somewhere in the world.
They're a team to watch, players to watch, and I've got my eye on them, because, uh...
I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
I'm not after these games.
How could you not? They've
definitely won so many fans.
It feels like it couldn't grow
any more of a fan base of LGD.
Those players there, but
ultimately just falling a
little bit short here at slam
seven. The winners Yandex
Congratulations to them again.
Of course, thank you guys so
much for joining us through
this journey. I look forward to