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That's largely with you. 68% going for Team Spider right now.
Obviously good things in both.
Although I did see them getting packaged up.
Crab does have some amazing stuff, I'm just saying.
Yeah.
You know, one of the...
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Are these biased?
No, I did them.
So obviously not.
Did you put stuff in there?
Yeah.
OK, you stuff these.
Yeah.
You're the stuffer.
Yeah.
And they're even.
Yes.
They are.
Me and Medic did it and we're very awesome.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Just say, Mike, one of them might be full of beans.
We will find out soon.
But in one of these, actually, and this is one I don't know as much as I love to mean
about it, we are going to be giving away a full mythic boost with a mount drop as well.
Very nice.
You're sick.
We've been told that Team Spider has won.
Once again, no exclamation marks in chat just yet because we have to choose your
prize out of one of these wonderful envelopes here.
We have loads.
We have so many.
I was about to say feel free to pick I'm not going mid-gank. I'll go here. Okay. Okay. So Mike has chosen some of you didn't lick all these
I did. Yeah. Oh my god. Are you okay? Yeah, that's like really toxic. I think it must
Let's find out we have got we have got
Free open TTS on the live stream that is not true
We have
We have
We've been told by production that we have no power in said we haven't got a stream
Stream that glass
That's one of these bad boys with the twisties
Very cool very useful awesome thing to get if I assume we're doing the same command as we always do for spiders
Yep, give us
Give us one second
We'll be told when you can do it
It will be exclamation mark spider do get that in type it in once so you can do that from now type it
All right go once and once only if you type it in several times
You could be disqualified or even worse timed out by the bot who gets a little funny about these things
If you want to get a stream they'll have one plus well the idea is Mike is that we steal them at the end of the event
Hey wake up
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Welcome to the studio.
I actually have some really exciting news.
Everyone, welcome back to the stream.
We covered a lot today.
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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good where ever you are right now, I'm wondering
how long it will take Nogura to realize her microphone arm is up by the side of her head
instead of by her mouth. I'm Mettak, I'm joined by Nogura this morning. Welcome to the race
of the world first where we are already seeing Mythic Plus this morning.
I am so excited for Mythic Plus. Actually, yeah, I'm actually excited for Mythic though
Because even though we are doing Mythic Plus right now, we know that it's very likely going to be Mythic Raining later
because we know what Liquid is doing. They've been pulling Overnecks throughout our night, and their day have not killed that boss yet.
So we are definitely going to see some Overnecks and Brute Twister later today once they're done with their...
Oh, that's actually a Mythic!
Yeah, I was looking at the Fraggo screen and that looks very Mythic Plus-y to me, but they are small screens.
That is...
No, we didn't plus that. We lied to you.
We did?
Entirely.
Usually we lied to you by saying we do mythic and then it's actually not.
Yeah, six hours by the way.
But this time it was like the opposite.
Reverse psychology.
Yeah, it looks like it's...
We might actually have a few polls on Brute Twister this morning.
Overnight, as you say, we saw Liquid get down to about sub 30%, 29.4%,
with 61 polls on Brute Twister.
Definitely feels like she is going to be...
the first wall-ish of this tier.
One of the things I realized overnight that I didn't realize before is
it's not just the first container that she eats that empowers the minions in that zone.
In fact, it's every time she eats a container, she empowers that style of minions.
So there's a bit more to it than just the first zone that you ingest.
Yes, in case some of you don't know anything about Mythic Brute Twister,
which it's unlikely because we've seen some progress already,
but maybe you're just waking up, maybe you're EU
and you haven't seen anything about this boss on Mythic.
Depending on which container you start in,
there's gonna be a certain type of spider,
or a certain type of ant that will be empowered.
You can see it listed down here.
So the spiders are gonna get the necrotic wound,
which means that the tanks usually,
or whatever agro-target is gonna get hit by the spiders
that the Necrotic Wound infect, which we've seen cause issues actually for
liquid because the Necrotic Wounds of course being a healing reduction and the
way the tank mechanic works from the boss is that the lower HP you have, the
more missing health you have, the more damage they explosion that. So you
basically explode for rate damage depending on missing health and this
Necrotic Wound will make that more difficult for the tanks to be healed
up, which causes some issues, or causes issues for liquid, especially when everything is getting
super chaotic, when you get to a point where you're progressing and there's so much damage
in a raid, then the healer is of course focusing on healing up the raid, and with the changes
as well that we're coming in, with the tanks having a little bit less sustain, being more
reliant on the healers, that makes it more difficult for sure.
Yeah, definitely bells, and then obviously with the, depending on which mutation you decide
to pick up first you then have the worms mutation which increase their cast time. Those all have to
be interrupted. There's about eight of those adds per section or if it's the empowered section it's
eight and then I think it's about three to four in the other sections. If you have eight you only
have three explosions to deal with that so is that three three two and then having three interrupts
at the same time all going off to make sure that you get rid of those worms it is very
difficult and you still have to kill them they can still recast later on. If you empower
the parasites, whether you do it first, second or last, they get increased movement speed and if they
catch up with you they'll infest you and then they'll multiply as they jump out of you,
also doing damage. So it's a very tricky fight, it's not as plain and simple as,
oh just choose the one you want to empower at the start and then deal with it for the rest
of the raid, you have to then deal with the other empowered ads as you go along. But I am
surprised. Everyone I talked to this morning was like, gonna do m plus for a little bit,
you can see Liquid's eye level about three a head of where Echo were yesterday when they killed off
Sycrum. So I expected, I even spent the last half an hour writing notes in my notebook,
thank you Skype, about some of the mythic plus dungeons so I knew the mechanics a little bit
better. But apparently we're just going straight into Roo Twister. Yeah very interesting for
sure, it is possible. So one thing that I've noticed or one thing that I thought about is
If a boss like this is difficult, if a heavy add boss is difficult, then the comp all of a sudden becomes pretty complicated.
Because it's not just one type of damage you're looking for.
You're not just looking for AoE, you're not just looking for single target.
You need enough damage to deal with the adds, while also maximizing the boss damage.
Because the boss's health also has been an issue, I think, for Liquid as well,
where we're thinking, okay, we need to allocate as much damage as we need on the adds,
But everything else should be boss damage to make sure that we can actually kill the boss at the end
Once the room is filled
With the the black blood because then obviously that's the end ranger or something which we're despised so yeah having
Very balance comp to make sure you have enough damage on all of those types of ads to support them and we obviously have pretty like
Okay, I don't want to completely lie, but I don't think
Liquid had hunters
Yeah, two hunters in this
which is, as you say, a little bit surprising.
I wasn't able to watch all of the liquid pools,
but I'm sure maybe you could get them up.
I don't think people will mind us looking at our phones
at seven in the morning.
Like just grab the iPad, have a mosey, see what you can do.
The password is 123456.
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Yes.
Yeah, so what do we have, oh, there was one Hunter on Liquid apparently.
We have two Hunters, we have two Shamans.
It looks like it is a Guardian Druid and a Brewmaster for our tanks, alongside that
double warrior, single Paladin, double mage, I think like warriors are absolutely topping
some of those damage charts.
Oh yeah, warriors are crazy.
Something I've thought about as well is that maybe we see possibly a blood decay here because
of all of these adds that would be really nice to grip.
And I think Liquid is running too frosty case, so two DPS decays, still sticking to that
Guardian Druid and the Roo Master, and we all see for Acre here, but there we go.
We do see that Twister pull coming in straight away.
There was not even a lot of talking or anything, just like straight away pulling that.
No, we had prog.
A lot of the players only got in within the last 20 minutes or so, so I think it might just be a
Let's get some reps in on this boss
Let's see what it feels like so let's start to orchestrate the fight. This is ingesting the black blood. I believe this is in the spider
Area I'm trying to count the eggs might be the worms actually I see a lot of those
Medium-sized eggs so it could be a worm zone now. Of course we have to then diagram here with these
debuffs to actually crack those eggs out. Parasites coming out early, there's a
spider there as well. I think we may have missed one, yeah. Interesting, so because
you have to double-axe sometimes, like there's two next to each other, then
you have to overlap them both. And what happened here is that they
overlap one, but not the other one. And they also missed the blue one in the
corner as well. We do see the markers come down. I assume they're gonna
move them for each wave, somebody's like marking down and then we have this really cool
weaker that we saw in the middle of the stream. So basically it's an overlaid image that shows
where the markers are going to be and which one you have to break. So that's something
that I've already figured out beforehand apparently.
I've managed to count and I think this is the parasite section we're starting
in. I see a lot of parasite aches.
So it basically depends on, so the more acts of a type there are in this area,
that's that type that gets a power up here. Yeah in the empowered zone there'll be eight of that type
of egg and then in the other zones there'll be eight of the clots of spiders or eight of the worms
depending on which area we're in. You need to reload your eye, Frago. Get on it, get ready,
he's got his phanta. Ready for a plug today. We actually had a really nice breakfast. I was
slightly worried that we weren't going to get breakfast this morning so I had a banana earlier
but we got some chia seeds, some little chocolate chips, like very you know just a little bit
bit of extra long-term energy for the day. Hasn't kicked in yet, I'm going to be honest.
I have my coffee right here. Oh, excellent. Okay, you're going to vibe for us, are you?
Yeah, of course. It doesn't look like we're using orcs. It's
double press evoker with a priest. Oh, maybe we are using orcs actually. I thought we
only had two evokers in. Yeah, let me see. Double press. Oh, triple. Triple press?
Zatsu impressed as well
Because there's definitely double press on the HPS meters, but I don't see Zatsu's healing there yet. I think yeah
I think that's the press of over
I know frags in I think it's triple press of over and right over just got swapped out
So yeah looks like it doesn't it moved in and so let's swap out
That will be crazy running three press of over. I mean they are really strong. They're actually really really strong
Yeah, unless I'm... It looks like they're pulling right now with Zatzi out, so like, Fraggo is in right now, like...
Yeah. The groups at the top are slightly hard to read. Fraggo's in, Zatzi's out, but Zatzi's in group three.
It is still Mythic Proc, guys, even though it looks like there's more than 25 people in the raid.
Took me a second to understand that one as well, Nogura.
Here we are in the Parasite section.
Overnax will ingest the Black Blood. You can see the Parasite eggs turn into this sort of more maroon-y red.
means they're empowered and now we'll see the overlaps coming up in about seven
seconds time. Obviously expectations are normal. We'll die early here. Great
week or as you say showing you exactly where you need to overlay. If you have
the experimental dosage they're gonna go and cross and do that. This will be a
colossal spider, a worm. Another colossal spider down towards the
bottom side I think in some of those parasites already we have lost, oh we
We haven't lost Satsi, he's just standing there because he's not in the raid.
Oh thanks guys, can you make it over?
He's slightly easier for us to understand.
In League they're either dead or they're not.
So the boss reset?
Oh because somebody was outside that was Satsi presumably?
Yeah.
But how is Satsi even in a raid?
I'm very confused.
Is Perfecto now out?
I think Perfecto is now out.
Okay Zut no no, Fraga was out according to these raid trends.
No, like this raid trend just shows 20 people.
Yeah, but Fago is in.
No, I think it's Perfecto.
Perfecto is out.
Yeah, Perfecto, if we went over to his view,
which we're not going to do because it doesn't show anything,
it would show just a desktop.
So it seems like he's out right now.
There we are.
Yeah, so Perfecto out.
Only one rogue.
He's going to be so upset.
Push in like that.
You just got to get better, Perfecto.
Purely a matter of skill.
There's no luck in Bump!
Yeah, it's suckin' luck!
Him and Preach down early in the morning just working out.
Mate, it just feels so bad to be beaten by Cush.
It's like, alright, you can be one of the rats.
I mean, this is obviously not...
They're just gonna be switching stuff back and forth,
trying things out.
This is not set in stone at all, of course.
They're just gonna get a few tries in to see what kind of damage they need.
And also check their Weekars as to be as I did see that the Weekar that they had
Like the first image that showed up
Was wrong. So in case you don't know how Weekars work. Don't first of all don't worry about it. No one knows how Weekars work
They're incredibly complicated
But the way these Weekars work, they're not like some super
Like they're not computational like this is literally just an image like they've made these images beforehand of the room where they were
mapping out the eggs and they put rings as like an overlay so you basically
whenever a diva comes up you see this image over your screen which means that
you have to like perfectly know which ones are gonna break your forehand to be
able to get these images done correctly but what we've seen on the first set of
divas is that the image was actually wrong so they're gonna have to update
that wika making sure that it's always correct very similar I think to
like Nelf, an Atharian, where you had overlaid images for the position of where you have to
go with like the heart, I don't know what it's called, like this huge circle that you like
to spread out with.
I mean, Jailor's a very good example as well, right?
Because on Jailor it showed you exactly what position you had to jump into the tube, I
guess.
The tube of Vomage.
Wait, actually that was computational though, like that hit basically, like that weaker
was dynamic with the current story like who had the b-buff right? Oh true. These ones are not like
they're just a truly determined like images. Just like you said no one understands Wikora,
me especially so. Very confusing. It's just always confusing. Do not know that you have to study IT
if you want to be a World of Warcraft player. I'm doomed. I went through medicine then I did
League of Legends now I'm in World of Warcraft. Apparently I have to do comp science now as well.
It's absolutely jokes.
I will say we do see some evokas setting up here.
It's a nice little bit of tech that probably most evokas know, but if you're a noob like
me and you've just picked it up because it's S tier, you might not know it.
You set up your stasis, you throw out, it takes about 30 to 45 seconds, throw out three
temporal anomalies, then wait 10 seconds, make sure the pull is on time, and you
can get four temporal anomalies out at the start of the fight, meaning if you
You have a big upfront bit of damage at the fight.
You already have your Echoes spread amongst a bunch of people.
Also means you can top the HPS charts for about 20 seconds before the rest of the healers
catch up.
Feels really good.
HPS then, if you're me, drops down quite a lot to about 400k, but still passing better
than I did last week.
That's the important thing right, Mikaela?
That was the most pity-nice I've heard in the history of Nices.
Thank you.
I'm also happy for other people so much because I want them to return to happiness whenever
I do a little bit of damage because I play Moonkin, right?
But I mean, I do want to say that Moonkin actually got buffed at Moonkin Receive.
I felt it yesterday when I was playing, it was really good.
Plus in particular, Moonkin's kind of sleeper.
You're just trying to get more people to play Moonkin, so more people complain about
Moonkin.
I just want to get invited.
Please, I can do more than a plus two.
Please, let me in.
Of course, through the entire race to world first,
we're raising money for Games for Love,
which is an amazing charity that brings distraction therapy
and play to children in hospitals,
also supports them after they have managed
to leave the hospital with things like internship programs,
scholarship programs.
They have lots of people in STEM fields
who have been through the program
who are now helping mentor the next generation.
You can donate with the information I donate
or with the panel below the screen,
I think we're still doing the $10 gets you
a transmog review as well.
And I will say, Nogura and I are a lot kinder
than Preach would be at your transmog.
So if you want some field goods on it.
Speak for yourself.
Okay, I'm really nice.
If you want some kind words on your transmogs
at 7.25, 7.30 a.m. on a Thursday.
It is Thursday.
Thursday morning.
I had to think for my personal.
That's what we're here for, yeah, same.
Like a day's just become is it a day? I'm working. It's a day. I'm not working a race to our first every day
It's a day that we're working some of our other charity incentives operation medic at $5,000 whose cast is it anyway?
Which is all my favorite moments of the last race at $10,000 and then Jesse's been spending some time setting that up
We have the RC rumble, which is racing cars throughout the studio with the production cameras on top of them
Meaning we're likely to break some production cameras. Yeah
Skof Cosplay, Raider Portraits, the International Cast of Appreciation Day where I'm hoping Jordan
gets another bag of fertilizer. The Nerubar which is a cocktail hour based around the Nerubar
Palace and then Jesse and I will be getting crab and spider tattoos if we hit $40,000
It's modelled on...
Real ones, right?
Really?
Yeah, real ones.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm down.
You don't...
You're gonna get one?
Yeah.
You're in at 40K?
I mean, on the real ones.
It's modelled on these?
Yeah.
The girl is in at 40K.
Playfield and ship it.
Put it on the document.
You're doing it.
Nice.
Which one are you getting?
I'm getting the crap.
Because I want a marine life sleeve anyway.
So I'm thinking like cartoon,
could we marine life down my left arm?
It's cute.
I mean, I'm already a fish, so the crab actually
would fit better in theory.
Yeah.
I don't know, with the crab.
I think she was right.
Yeah, you get all the time in the world to choose.
You have until we get 40k, which is definitely
not going to happen today, right, chat?
That would be a jump.
Imagine if you really want to see Nagura's tattoo.
Get in there.
There's just, like, the two artists waiting.
The corner is like, oh, hello.
Oh, hello.
I'm here.
Time for tattoos.
There is also a stretch goal where Alex and I and anyone else I can rope in from production
and maybe preach are going to do the sussie on the stream if we get to 50k.
Please no.
No, I'm not.
Please.
You don't want us to do the sussie?
I want people to donate, but kind of don't want you to do sussie no.
That's understandable.
I usually reserve that for my fiancee.
Private times.
But yeah, so we had two pulls and now we have nothing.
As we call this, we are being organised.
Oh, put them 15 seconds.
Well, okay, never mind then.
What were you going to say?
Yeah, I was saying maybe we can look at the flashback and talk a little bit about last
day's recap, but nope, we're pulling.
Here we are.
Another pull coming out.
Over next, pulled over towards the parasites once again.
Apart from the empowered mutations, the only other thing you really have to look for is
the tank buster in this fight as you said earlier.
If the lower the tank's health is, the more the explosion of damage that comes out is
afterwards.
So you want to make sure that you have those DRs on your tank, you want a damage reduction,
you want to make sure your tank is topped up before that tank buster comes in.
Once again, it is the mutated parasites.
The weak aura.
Is that correct?
One, two, three.
That looks right-ish.
It looks good.
Yeah?
Yeah.
So we're gonna be cracking 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 eggs?
Oh, and now I understand that you can even see the corruption, right?
Yeah, the maroon colour rather than the pinky red.
Lots of parasites coming out, have to spread for those webs as well.
Parasites you don't want to get near you, have to kill them, kick them, interrupt them,
just get them away from you, stun them, CC them before they get infested off,
Because if they do they then multiply the worm is an interrupt you can see coming up there poison burst
Yeah, we missed an intro up there. That's gonna
Yeah, so it's interesting to see that they're going with the parasites first base
At least on a roic in my opinion the parasites are the one type of ads that can get out of control so quickly
Yeah, it's just multiplication. Yeah, and like if one person gets invested
it's hard to recover from this, especially when they're spread out, because then all of
a sudden you have parasites in all corners, and the players are all around the room, and
then you can't really gather them up anymore, that's because you're just going to get them
closer to the target that they're trying to fix it. So yeah, it's very difficult to
deal with them once they're out of control like that.
Yeah, I mean it's exponential multiplication, right? 2 to 4 to 8 to 16 to 32 to 64,
it just in the end the entire room will be covered in these these parasites echo continuing to have
the same struggles that everyone else has had so far on this boss usually how many pulls would you
say it would take Nagura to get into a rhythm with a boss like this because it's very easy from
the outside to say we'll just go where you eat week or assess just kick the things you know just
interrupt these casts but there is a degree of getting them the fight into your head that
takes a while. Yeah I do think that this fight is taking a while because like obviously Echo can
look at what Liquid did over the last couple of hours but I don't think this boss is as strategy
heavy. Okay like obviously which axe you're breaking is important but the boss kind of
predetermines which axe you have to break because of the pool the blood that is coming
out of the canister right so the only thing that you can kind of copy from Liquid is
which canister you go with first. So they know that, they're just going to copy that, right?
But how do you deal with the adds is the most important thing of this fight. And really,
as I talked about earlier, like making sure you're allocating the correct amount of damage for each
add wave, not only with the Accomposition, like making sure you have the correct comp,
but also when are you using your cooldowns, right? Like who is using cooldowns for the
first wave? Who is using cooldowns for the second wave? Who is using cooldowns on the boss?
When are we bloodlusting? When are we using healer cooldowns and so on, like mitigation
for the tanks, for the tank explosion as we talked about as well. So I do think that is going to be
really what Akko needs to practice and that's something that they cannot necessarily copy
from Liquid. Like they cannot go look at their logs and see exactly what they're doing and do
it exact same way. Like that is not something that you can copy. So I do think that this boss
is going to be difficult for them and they're going to be needing I would say similar amounts
of pulls than Liquid does because usually Akko needs last pulls on these earlier bosses
compared to Liquid, because Liquid is the one pulling it for the first time, but I think
this boss is probably not gonna be like that. I think they're definitely gonna need some pulls
to get used to it.
Liquid had got to the stage where they were bloodlusting in P3 as well. Assuming we count
each ingestion as a phase, it's not really a phase, but you can kind of talk about it
like that. They were waiting for that final ingestion on the third canister and then
they were lusting. Looks like a couple of talent changes here for Kush, our rogue hero.
But I'm expecting more pulls, hopefully this morning. I do also expect some
M+. We could quickly jump over to Wolf before the pull happens. He's in Mists of
Tiena Scythe, which does have a great weak aura as well. You don't have to do
any of the calculations of where to go. There's just a weak aura. You say,
Ah man, you don't play a healer do you?
Well, I play Mouken and I do this game all the time. Yeah, I love doing it
Okay, if you enjoy the game
You still get to do it on the second boss where she does their phases, right?
But as a healer all that would happen is when you get into this dungeon people would say healer
Please do game and then you just be running around and they'd be like why did I die to them?
And it's like well because you told me to do the game can't focus on two things at once
But there is a weak aura that basically does it for you after the first couple of chambers
because I think it looks at the enemy ID and specific enemy IDs dictate which
direction you're meant to go. Is there a way for us to tell what level this key
is? Just looking at it from the outside. It's all the way up in the corner.
But that's not usually on the UI. Unless you have it on the right side I guess
because it shows the affixes. Yeah so usually if you have like standard UI
then you know where you have your quest objectives and you just like open
up this kind of nothing plus window and then it says the level there that makes
sense but because he is a weaker I like replaces his was it standard yeah I think
this is about a 90% clear if you just do the straight line path so they want to
pick up a couple more of the forces that they go along something you might not
know if you've never done n plus before is there is a certain set amount of
ads you have to clear through the rage you can't just add through the
dungeon you can't just skip everything I learned that yesterday I already knew
it but you know when you've done an M0 so many times that you forget about the ads
we completed the second boss on dawnbreaker I flew up to the dawnbreaker again
because that's where the third boss is died because I went through too much of
the darkness and then you can't remount because you spawn back on the
dawnbreaker and it's like oh the boss is here you're not allowed to mount
right now so my my creep just wiped down on the ground I felt so bad
Wait, that must be... like that's something they should fix though, because yeah, that is a problem.
Yeah.
Whatever you just die from trash and then they can't come back.
Like, that is weird. They should address that.
But yeah, as you said, there is the game now on the bus well where you have this admission where the boss gets immune
and you have to find the odd one out.
Yeah, basically you have to find...
There are three parameters that you're looking for.
Does it have a circle or not have a circle?
Does it have a flower or a leaf and is it filled or not filled and whichever one of those
doesn't match the others is the clone you are going for. There are two different missions there.
Not sure why we cut back to us. I know that Mitch wants us in a moment to throw to the staff
or Dreeplay, but Nagura was drinking. Nagura was drinking. We were talking about the boss.
Yeah, but then why did we cut back to us, Mitch? Why did we cut back to us?
The conversation isn't important! I was talking about N-PASS, bitch!
Obviously we all love each other here, it's just a bit of banter in the morning waking us up.
I hope that went out. I hope that went out to the stream.
But yeah, miss the second boss, third boss. What's the third boss in this?
The last boss is like a big maggot type thing.
Oh yeah, and then it's like...
Yeah, and then it's like...
It looks a bit like Blue Twister. I do have that job. Do you want the name?
It's funny because I should know the name because I cast at the MDI where Mists was part of it multiple times like
Redova
Tredova, yeah
It's a good name. It is a good name. I love it. It has the mind link mechanic as well
You need to run away from your tank, which is always fun. One of the coolest mechanics
mechanics is a Tradova mechanic, and they never repeat it anywhere else, like sometimes
this happens so many times in a while, when there's a mechanic you see it everywhere, right?
It's like, well everywhere, but you see it repeated more often, right?
Like there's swirlies, you have a soak and then there's this and you have to spread
out like there's a portal, like the cymox ring that we see, whatever, like they get
repeated.
But there's one mechanic on Tradova that remembers how you dodge, so basically-
Yeah, on the green swirlies.
Yeah.
a swirling that spawns underneath your character and the second time you have the same ability
happening it will spawn a second swirly and it will spawn it the way you dodged the first one.
So if I dodged forward and then I stood still right there then the second swirly will spawn
in that location where I dodged the first one right and this will repeat forever.
So and I thought that is such a cool mechanic because then you have to
actually dodge in a very purposeful way because if you just blink super far away
then that swirly could kill another person later because it's the guy who dissipated.
Every time that's why I blink hover forward towards my DPS and then blame them for not dodging the swirly's.
Yeah I would just love to perhaps amacetic like this on the like in the raid but then maybe that's too many people?
Like there's 20 people that I just like wander around and there's swirly's everywhere like
it might be able to come again who knows.
I like the level of coordination it requires. I think having it on heroic and normal not be
enough damage to kill you is good. If it does like a third of your health and normal and half
of your health on heroic then it's like a you can't coordinate it like one step forward okay
next time we take a step back okay next time we take a step to the right like you have eight
directions you can go in before you're actually out of a six-yard bubble or so. I think that's
really interesting. One mechanic that I've heard apparently happened on Lich King that I would really
like to see again is the deliberate or like scripted wipe of a raid when they get to low HP
and then the boss bringing them back to life to fight them more. So it's like I'd love to see it in
as the mythic only phase here where it's the Xalateth comes in wipes you all but then
Revives you as ascended or something and then you have to fight her for like 10% or something
I thought that'd be really fun. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I like that idea
There's a cutscene in God of War 2 that does it you fight Thor. If you're listening you can still write this up and like
Implemented real quick. Yeah, you got tons of time. Brutwitz is gonna take his weeks. Sorry there was a fight
Yeah in God of War 2 you fight Thor, obviously spoilers
But I think that game's been out for like four years now
So if you haven't seen it you haven't seen it
And you're like, you can be winning, you can be losing the fight.
I'm not a massive fan of I'm winning the fight.
Oh no, one thing killed me because it's scripted, but it's usually quite a close fight.
And then Thor will kill you.
You have the game over screen.
He puts Mondio on your chest and says, you die when I fucking say you die.
Electric YouTube brings you back to life.
And then you have, yeah.
I love that.
Yeah.
That is very cool.
Here's Treadover.
Amazing.
want to be definitely wasn't out before her they do like their wormy bosses
but yeah this boss has never really been a big issue like in the past before
but whenever they bring back a dungeon from previous expansions people are
always it's very interesting to me because people are like dreading certain
dentures or loving certain dungeons according to how easy or hard it was
previously, but they can completely change that, right? Just because you bring back a dungeon
doesn't mean it's easy. They can make mechanics much harder, they can tune bosses harder, and
that is actually what is happening on some of these dungeons. So a dungeon that was previously
easy now can be hard. For example, Necrotic Wake is a dungeon that was really easy in Beta,
and before that, when it was live, it was actually kind of difficult and you had to do
like chatting against with kind of weapons and yet you have a priest and
then mind control the harvester otherwise you couldn't do high keys and if you
missed if you use the weapon on a boss and then you didn't kill the boss you
basically were done with the dungeon high keys because you the weapons were so
powerful and missing out on them may basically meant you can't do the
dungeon anymore and now they fixed all of that.
Siege of Rallos is also one of those dungeons that people hated, myself included,
one of the worst dungeons in Difei but now they made it kind of like
bearable it's not that bad anymore but maybe the whole chat is going to be like no it's so bad
it's necrotic wake the one with stitcher is that or is that
grimper toll i'm so bad with this i don't know i always to me it's i was like second
you climbed the tower fourth boss he brings up like all the mobs and you have to hook him
oh yeah that that's that's necrotic wake yeah apparently xalatath's orbs can spawn in the
dive in the way of the hook so you even though you aim it properly so they intercept the hook
I've seen people complain about that. They're like, why we can't get the boss down.
The orbs are always there. It's out of town once again, interrupting us all.
That's hilarious.
Yeah, so even though the boss is dead, you have to kill 100% of the forces. You can see in that
left hand corner here on M+, they are just getting that last 3.4%.
10 more adds need to go down for them to have cleared it.
We didn't have any more pulls on Brew Twister, which is why we've been watching M+,
for the last of the one I expect for the next four hours or so until lunch time. We're likely
going to be doing a bit of an M plus world tour. I'm not quite sure exactly what they're looking for
on each of these. We'll see if anything cool pops up here for Wolf Disco, but they will obviously
be deliberately doing the dungeons that give them the loot that they're looking for, right?
There's it's not like M0 where you have a daily lockout where you go nothing. Excellent. Nice
for you. It's not like MZero where you had a daily lockout here, you can just spam for as long as you
want. 6-10 critical strike mastery. That's not what I wanted. There's like a trinket that drops here
I guess like changeling. I wonder if that's what they're looking for here. The way the loot works
in case you're wondering why they're doing a plus 8. So plus 10 is technically what gives
the highest item level for both the vault and the end of dungeon chest, but they don't
I don't really care about the vault right now, I just care about the items right now, about the chest here
and from plastics onwards you already get hero track
now of course you have to waste more crests and upgrades if you have a lower hero item
but it's very likely that they already have a higher item level in their bags
and then you get the discount right so to make it easier in them they're just going to do like lower keys to make it faster
And then they only have to spend more Valor stones, which technically they should have
available.
So, yeah, they can just do the lower key levels, it's not going to be good for the world.
And then of course Mplus has changed quite a lot from previous expansion.
We have completely new affixes.
I think some of you have already seen that as you were probably playing Mplus yourself
on live servers, but if you didn't play, the way the affixes work now is that
we don't have any of the old aphix anymore so there's no sanguine, no explosive, no nothing,
none of that. It's all gone and now we have a completely new aphix called Duxalta's Bargain
and there's four different ones and they have all like very similar names and very similar icons
so I don't actually like whatever I hear name I'm like no idea which one this is but it's one
of them but the way they work like when there's like orbs that spawn they come close to
you have to intercept, it's like Kiskur's aphix basically, so you have to soak something
or you have to switch to something and if you do it correctly you get a buff and if you
do it incorrectly the mobs get a buff and a lot of players are looking forward to that
kind of aphix because it feels rewarding when you do it correctly.
While the previous aphixes they only had a negative effect, so it's like yeah,
just felt bad.
felt really bad. Especially as a new dungeon goer, getting into a key and being like, it's
sanguine and it's explosive and I don't know what I'm doing, 90% of the time, just blow
up immediately. We do have some self-watch flashback highlights from yesterday available
for us, or even from the race to world first so far. So why don't we have a quick
watch of those, while I get another coffee.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's the moment we've all been waiting for.
We've been waiting an entire week for this.
That's right, Mike gets to see Adele.
And Gingy's in Adele's, and look at him casting The Spells, so that you can see that Spitfire
Fuse tender throwing that dynamite out there, Mike is of course going to have to sidestep
that, otherwise a hell of a lot of damage is going to be coming in.
How do you think he's going to be dealing with the upcoming lack of breath that's
coming into this part of the... I can't do this.
No, I promise.
I have welcome to the first two days of Heroic Week.
You live in Germany, so you keep defending it.
But you tell me a modern country that has everything closed on a Sunday these days.
Outrageous shenanigans to poor...
Ever since I've been here, attitude.
Oh, another neck. Let's fucking go, guys.
I found a neck. I found a neck as well.
Oh, we got beans on toast!
Let's go!
Thank you, thank you!
It smells so bad!
It's a toast!
Yeah, it's the way they squish.
I know Jesus about to pop up and say that. Definitely doing splits, but...
I'll wait until you're done talking before I really get back.
Let me set a case.
They're gonna do splits all day tomorrow.
You just have to say that you're fine, and you're not really fine, but you just can't get into it.
It's just like an aroi. She has almost like a combination of Cymox.
Mm-hmm, a from...
Oh...
Oh, I push. I guess he's sleeping.
We saw some of the players who did get timed out will put it that way, for being a...
They were banned.
They were banned.
Oh, I...
They were banned.
Right.
They wouldn't be fiction.
Speaking from experience, there is different levels to banning, okay?
Okay, we're going to be raising these.
Now, watch the most important question, the most pressing question.
Yeah.
Pressing being the answer word here.
When is the laundry returning?
So, we have an ETA of tomorrow 1200.
Okay.
We'll get regular updates and keep you all up to date.
Okay.
Is it splits for the laundry or are you doing a whole combined?
Well, there's going to be a spreadsheet that you need to follow.
Okay.
Yeah.
I will email it to you tonight.
you tonight and when it arrives do we get to split the loot between the
game or is it each person gets their own individual it's gonna have to be
personal look on this one okay that's a shame but I was hoping to get one of
pushers shirts so I'll be honest but no we don't but charity and a bit of gambas
with splits and it's fine day I will drink my beanie rim juice as he
masticates the beans slow and sensual
look at you rat
did you notice how long it took Mike to touch the feet as you say
I've found horror is going to be the one staying down in the unseeming two percent left this could
go really wrong wait it's getting in oh no don't let the shield juggle it's going to get
on keep plowing we've got point five percent left oh the rain is getting so low merestail
My life is time for you to show off, if you want the best player here!
Oh! They got so lucky!
And we're back!
I'm still coffee-less, because I didn't realise that I was only two and a half minutes long.
I didn't have time to go and get myself a coffee.
Yeah, I was really excited about my cover that I found for this mug that fits perfectly.
And I thought it was going to, like, have my coffee stay really hot.
It does not.
The lateral seepage of heat is a problem with a mug that size.
Yes, it's very problematic and I'm going to have to rethink my choice of mug.
You could get. Protein mugs actually have a thermal mug that you could use.
I haven't tried it yet. The protein powders have been pretty good for us though the last few days.
I actually liked it.
None of us bought any but we can pretend that we're really fit and healthy.
Preachers the one who's in the gym every day at 6am.
It's crazy.
It's good.
Thank you!
It's funny how I said, I'm gonna rethink my choice of mug and then it's just the same one for you.
It is pretty looking.
Yeah, it's very pretty.
And we just match now.
Live simply.
Also, I didn't want to notice like this Starforge flashback.
It looks so much flashier and like, it looks like it was so many things happening.
It was so much fun.
And then when you think back, it's just splits right?
Yeah, it was just all splits.
split some four bosses, but I mean it was still a lot of cool stuff happening yeah I mean it was yeah
I mean like always in this broadcast right that's why you should always tune in and always
watch our broadcast because it's amazing we always have so much fun we're living simply
with our three different monitors two lights order q probably 4k camera star forge pc our
Red Bull fridge. Yep. You know? Simple living here in cold, chia seed breakfast. It's your
birthday! It's your birthday man from mirrors. Having a great day. Waking up to do some Mplus.
Walking around. I was wondering about the floor design in Dornagull. The floor. Yeah,
so if you look at it, you have all of these squares that have the sides cut out. But
the diamonds in the middle of the squares, some of them have an extra diamond inside them and some
of them don't and it's sort of diagonal. Do you think it's a comment on modern architecture
or do you think it's just they thought the diamond inside look cool? I definitely think
that this is deep. I'm going to have to think about this because I've never seen this before
and this is a deep subject and I'm going to have to like put some thought into this before
I can answer this question also known as medic you're making sure that please
stop you see where are the tiles on the floor here no time your roots oh well
just leave that one on there's roots in mr. Turner's side you can open them if
you are druid or some other things I don't know but I'm a druid so I don't
only care about that yeah that's the one reason to bring a druid into any party
no other reasons unless they're willing to go guardian here we are this is
grim battall yeah I wonder interesting to do grim battall as well what drops there
I do know that there's like this really OP trigger that everyone wants in our
car like on the first boss but I haven't seen many people in our car so it
looks like
yeah like maybe that's not as hot anymore as
well I also wonder if a lot of them just got it
because we did have
people doing M0s and such initially
yeah but M0 would be bad
you would have to re-fer it again
but it's possible because they nerf the trinket, like they definitely changed some trinkets, it's possible that
And one thing that happens sometimes at the start of an expansion or at the start of a patch is that
because the way people figure out what trinkets are the best is by using Simcraft or Raid Bots, right?
Which is obviously this, like it basically calculates what's the best trinket for you is.
But sometimes, because these things they have to be manually implemented into Simcraft, right?
It's like, it's not related to Blizzard, it's like a third-party tool.
So sometimes when they implement trinkets or effects or whatever into that program, they implemented wrong
Because you know, they're humans and make mistakes and sometimes it's just wrong on or they implemented the way it was in beta or in ptr
But then was your change
And it wasn't like an official change or whatever
so sometimes what happens is that
Everyone gets baited thinking that a certain trinket is like the best and then it turns out
it's not and one of the funniest stories about trinkets was in emerald nightmare this was um
what's the expansion is this legion yeah like the first raid in legion uh everyone thought every
single caster thought they need this one trinket it was called like twisted something okay and uh
oh my god it's so good it's so good it's so good and it was seeming the best for everyone
and um it turned out the way it worked is that it would spawn a tornado okay and the
The tornado did a certain amount of damage, but only if it hits the target, right?
And these tornadoes spawned and then did these huge random circles and it would not hit anything, right?
And it was only good if every single tick would do damage.
And it took the community so long to understand that this trick is actually garbage.
And I saw people running around with this trick, it's still after months.
And every time I saw it, I was like, no, I just thought it's like funny tornado going around.
I was like, oh, look at the tornado, like, nothing and damage.
I'm screwed.
This sounds like me trying to do dungeons as well.
My flame breath is great.
There's tons of damage if it hits any of the opponents.
It's fine.
But yeah, we see the little dragon riding section of Grimvitol there.
You're trying to get, cleave down these enemies with your fire breath.
The enemies here can be a little deadly.
If you get caught out by them, especially by the little twilight drakes, they can absolutely
rip through you, but obviously these guys are very good at clearing M+, it is a 9.
So they're trying to get a little bit more item level out of the chest at the end instead
of just doing a plus 8.
For the second I thought it was a plus 2, because it says plus 2 equals 27, but that's
the timer if you want to get the key upgraded, obviously.
To get that further on.
Yeah also like the the the weaker that the wolf is running like with only the
timer there's no bars like like this would be really confusing to me like
wolf is running you either looks very clean yes you know when something like
it looks beautiful but it's not like as like you don't see the information as
quickly it care more about the looks rather than like anything else and I
mean wolf is obviously a good player and I'm sure he gets all of the
information he needs, but if I don't have a bar that fills up, like a visual, then I get confused.
Like if I would have to look up there and look at the actual time, it's like, so we have four
minutes out of 34, and that's like, you know, you only need to get the 34 in your head once.
Right.
Like for me, that's a lot easier.
I would not remember the number.
Okay.
My brain, I love this overlay.
Really?
Yeah, I really like this.
Oh, that's interesting.
It gives me all the information I want.
I don't think I'd need the individual boss bits because I don't really care how long it took me to time each boss
but that might just be the level I'm at
but I really like it. I think that I'll probably ask him or go, I don't know, is Wolf streaming?
Go to his stream, sub, get his UI, tends to be the way of the world.
So the exclamation mark and plus timer in chat would probably give you a command or something.
Yeah, so this, uh, general unbrush you're dodging away from these lines or the dragons with the flamebath across foi
There's one channel one column that is always open to you that you can go into and often
You're just going for one side of the platform to the other
Trying to get away from him
Not the hardest first boss of an M plus should be relatively simple for these guys
But there is always the risk when you have those rock areas coming down that you aren't gonna have much free space as
As it goes along
Second boss of this fight though
Of this dungeon really annoys me because I'm pretty sure is it the second or third?
It might be the third. Yeah, it's the third the third one
We bloodlust it on pull and then we're like, oh this bus going down really easily
And what we'll talk about it when we get there, but yeah, don't bloodlust on pull
This doesn't work too well
I mean Grim Battles is actually interesting because it's such an old dungeon and I mean I've been playing this game since vanilla
right so technically speaking I would know all the dungeons but before Mythic Plast was a thing all of these dungeons
You did them like a couple of times and then at least I personally like did them a couple of times at the start of an expansion
And then you kind of never had to do dungeons ever again, and then you didn't because I'm not a big
person a fan of doing things for no reason
Yeah, but so yes, a lot of these dungeons I remember like very like vaguely, you know
And then people say it's Grim Battall. It's Grim Battall. They're like, what is that?
Like I don't remember and then I do the dungeon and then I have all of these like flashbacks for like years and years
And it's like, oh, I remember being here like
But yeah, this is Grim Battall. A lot of people were really excited for this and I like the dungeon
But it's definitely a bit
Like it's on a more difficult side for sure.
Yeah.
It was definitely pretty hard when I did it.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I also think it's a little normal for me.
It's like, oh, what's the dungeon?
Well, we go through a castle and we kill the bosses of the castle.
You know?
And like it's still fun and still enjoyable.
I'm sure there's a lot of nostalgia for people and I'm not trying to poo poo your
nostalgia.
It's just in terms of an inventive and interesting boss, it's like cool.
You know, we fight a big guy with an axe and then we fight a guy who does bring out lava,
which is cool.
And then you fight another guy who we're not going to talk about yet, because you're all
going to be so surprised by the mechanics of the third boss.
And then you fight the Duke of Bolo.
The Duke of Bolo is cool.
I like the Duke of Bolo.
He's the guy with the tentacles, right?
I'm remembering that correctly.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I think that boss is very interesting.
I like it as well.
I did quickly want to say if you guys are tuning now and you're wondering why are they not doing my thing?
They are we're just not showing you very
Deliberately we hate you all they actually already killed Brutwister. They're on
But oh yeah, they're they tried mythic earlier
So at the very start of their raid day
They did pull the bus a couple of times to get some information
Very likely weaker information. Yeah to make sure that they can fix those
for when they come back later. Another farming gear. So if you look at the right
hand side where you can see the standing, the current standing, you'll see
that Liquid is 4 out of 8 and they had 619.7 item level on their
characters right now, on their best pull here on Overnecks, while Echoes
item level, you can't see it right now, but it's like 616, 617?
617 when they killed Sikran. I didn't see what it was. I didn't see what it was
on the pause this morning. It depends if they were logged or not but yeah 617 so
about three i levels below where liquid are obviously they can still have
upgrades on the gear they've got you kind of progressively upgrade as you get
Through more bosses. There's no point throwing everything at a boss before you really need to unless if you're on a reset
And you just really want to quickly reclear everything to get towards the difficult point
But for now expectations are we're just farming those valos lines canyx
Well, I think he died there didn't get BR immediately. Yeah, it did
Canyx went down please back now
That connects, of course, being a DPS player, tanking some of these keys, of course whenever
you do M+, like that, on all of your Raiders, you're not going to have enough tanks.
So some of the Raiders that play DPS or healer have to respect to tank which is not a problem.
I mean, you say some of them.
Anyone that plays Druid, I think at the moment, is just respecting into tanks.
Can you be a bear?
That's the question.
I have also just been informed that if you aren't enjoying watching on Twitch,
you can watch on YouTube. You can rewind. You can hear us say the things that were funny
again and again and again and again and again.
And you have to do that a lot because we're hilarious.
Yeah, we are so funny. Or you just the one joke over and over again. It's like, this
was the one funny moment in the morning.
It should be the next Star Force. I was just like, I was just like, I'm just seeing
you all in a long time.
This is repeating. I wonder if we're in some sort of weird groundhog situation.
That's how I felt during splits, I'm going to be honest. I was like, what day is it? Splits?
Haven't I been here before? I'm just going, oh my god.
I can only watch you lose to NA so many times in League. It's like being at Worlds, yeah.
But yeah, now we are, we've switched around a little bit. Who are we watching? I'm watching
Jinji, and he is doing Grim-Petal? Not Grim-Petal, Siege, right?
see the brawls there we go see I can see the um do we go to Jinji as he's got the bar
I like this one as well I like this one as well you see I like this one like the
number of as well I just want the bar in addition so just when I quickly glance
over I can see like how much time approximately I've left yeah I can vibe
with that I can vibe with that I think having it on the right as well because
I have my rate my party frames and such on the left
Having information on different points of the screen is better for me because otherwise I'm covering up too much stuff
But Jinji obviously never has to click on his party frames because
He's a mage and all you have to click on the enemy
They would have to click on the ray frame if they want to ever dispel like a curse because they can do that
They can dispel friendly players curses, but we all know they would never do such a thing because that's DPS loss
Why am I using a GCD to spell a curse when I can be using it for Arcane Blast?
It's funny, I recently talked about this because I was thinking which kind of player, especially Nimplas, is the most utility? Which classes? Serial types? Majors and Moon Kings or whatever?
or whatever. And then I came up about, I was talking about roaks. And I was thinking roaks
are so kind of quiet and they never hear you complain that much other than you know not
getting a raid spot maybe. But they have to do so much in the plaza, right? Roaks have
so much utility, so many single target stuns and in drops and whatever. And I remember
there was a time in Mythic Plaza where mages were met, basically all the time, and roaks
were met as well. And then roaks were responsible to do all of these things and like, throughout
here distract there like gay gouch and stun interrupt kidnation like basically
interrupting a whole pack by themselves and then the shot color is gonna be
like so hey mage can you sheep this month for a second or can you like
dragon's breath and the mage like I'm combusting and you're like really like
we ask you to do one utility typical mage players just entitled I'm talking
to you at home as well you know you ever get into an m plus you better be ready to
dragon's breath and to interrupt it's just unfair yeah okay maybe just of course a
little bit different it's actually interesting it's almost always fire is
the dominating spec for mages in and plus in particular in the rates we've seen
different kind of specs but now we see them play arcane in them plus as well
I know very little about Arcane Mage, I do have to say. I know that they are like these
burst windows, but other than that I have a very little knowledge about Arcane that is
something we are going to have to talk to Jordan about, right?
Yeah, Jordan knows a lot about it. He's a mage player, mage connoisseur. But it just,
from what I can understand, it puts out a lot of damage. And that seems to be why
you want it. There was something about spell buffering where you could get two spells
buffered at the same time and they kind of reduced that so you can only buff for one extra
spell. I was talking to Jinji about it, but he used a lot of words. I didn't understand
and I didn't want to seem like I didn't understand them. So I was just like, yeah, Jinji, that
makes sense. It's going to reduce your damage by about 6%, isn't it, Jinji? And this is
just, you know, rattling off numbers that someone's told me at some point in my life.
But for the moment, he seems to be doing okay. You can see 2.5 million DPS so far
on Chopper Red Hook. Biggest mechanic on Chopper Red Hook is you want to avoid
that fixate, just draw him into the bombs, they explode, you get a damage window, becomes
a lot easier for you to fight and then you are obviously trying to clear out these cosmic
orbs as well, I can't remember the exact name of them that are coming from the aphix.
And then of course because it's a plus 9 dungeon, we also have the Challenger's
Parallel I believe it's called, it's a completely new kind of aphix or like a debuff
I guess when you do dungeons, this happens all of the time it doesn't rotate from
plus seven onwards. If you die, you get a 15 seconds death penalty instead of a five seconds
death penalty, which I personally really dislike this affix because I feel like the higher the
keys, the more punishing the death already is. So having more penalty doesn't really make sense, but
we'll see how it turns out. I can understand that. I think
it is if you're balancing in that way you're kind of trying to push players into a safer
playstyle deliberately right it's a oh if you're going to pull a lot of stuff maybe
you pull a couple ads less because you know there's this huge penalty for you
dying but I do get the idea that well it's very punishing to die a high end
plus anyway right so why are you making even more punishing for us I guess the
argument as well is that you don't have all the extra affixes that you
usually would have with the sanguine the explosive etc right yeah I mean that
is true. One thing that I'm also like, I'm not gonna say I'm worried about it, but I kind of I'm
interested to see how it depends out. You can raise your concerns about not having any rotating
aphixes at all. Because I do think that PvE in particular has very little like variants, like
it's just always the same thing, right? Sure. And aphixes were supposed to like the purpose
of aphix's work was supposed to be changed. Every week you have something different.
You're playing the same dungeon, but the aphix has changed the way you played the dungeon.
And we've had aphix's for so long now though, and people have gotten increasingly mad about
aphix's being negative and they don't just like it that there's weeks that are easier
and weeks that are harder, which again is fair. And then Blizzard finally gave in
and said, you know what? Okay, fine. If you want no aphix and high keys, we're
you're not going to get the affixes anymore.
And now, plus 12 onwards, you're not
going to have any changes in affixes anymore.
It's all going to be the same thing.
One thing that I'm wondering about,
are people going to get tired of dungeons earlier
in the season, just because it's always the same?
Also, are they going to be, quote unquote, done progressing
the dungeons at some point, like where you just
reach a certain level, where it's just like, OK,
we've done this level.
We tried the next one numerous times,
we just can't do it and there's also just no hope because with affixes you would be like
you know what maybe we can kill it in this week with these affixes right but now it's just going
to be like well nothing's going to change next week we maybe get a little bit more item level
but at some point you also have best luck gear and then that's not going to be a thing either
and then are you just like gonna be done with it you know and then you just stop playing
until next season which to be fair I wouldn't hate that either yeah because sometimes
waiting for next season it's fine you can do some other things go outside touch
some grass I don't know I'll be honest I don't think Blizzard want you not playing
the game that's true that's the general thought behind this sort of thing I think
there is an interesting argument for letting something sit to let the
meta adapt around it something we don't see too much in league but you see a
lot in Starcraft is because there aren't many patches people discover new
stuff and you can discover like oh well we thought Siege of Braalist was good
with an arcane but actually if we bring a fire we can do this thing and you have
a little bit more flexibility to do that however I very much agree with you that
after I mean how many months is it before you get a rotation of the
dungeons yeah after five months I'm gonna be bored of doing the same
dungeons over and over again and I'm like doing low-level keys right if
you're getting to the top level and you you hit a wall within the first
couple of months then what is there for you to change other than maybe looking at a different
comp, maybe switching around your hero talents a little bit to see if there's something you can do there.
So finding a way to make it a little bit more flexible, finding a way to give a bit more
creativity over to the players does make a lot of sense, maybe even rotating the dungeons
more often. Instead of just having five months sit on some, you have say your base four of
the ones we've got in War Within and then the other four rotate every couple of months to
to give you a little bit more, a few more options to do things.
Yeah, that would be a little bit problematic with the season title,
because you obviously have like this rank one seasonal title, right?
Make new titles.
Yeah, you can have multiple, so it's like a season would only last two months, let's say.
And then another season happens after, like you could have like,
I don't know, two seasons per patch, right? I mean, I feel like that's not the worst idea.
And if you get the majority of seasons in a patch, you get a different title.
Super KSM or whatever it is.
Yeah, Super Xalatath or something.
Yeah, Xalatath is the best.
Or no, Ancerak is the best one, right?
Ancerak's best person.
You know? Good job!
Ancerak's darlings, there's a way.
They're spider queens.
Oh, I like it.
I'd love to be a spider queen.
That would be nice.
That's a win.
Yeah, but I think having more levers to pull doesn't make sense.
And as you say, affixes is one of those ways
that you can adjust the game for people, that allows them just a different experience each
time they go in. You see things like Time Walking Dungeons, they have Story Mode as well.
Everyone is, there's many different ways to experience the game. And I think the worry
is a little bit like with Delves, where Delves already feel a little bit antiquated
in terms of the content. It's like, well, if you've done the Delves, you've done
the Delves, there's nothing to gain out of this. It's not really changing. You
can go and do Zac Fizz bargain or whatever, but you do that a couple of times as well.
it's kind of done. And there is always that concern that you'll get to a high
enough key level that it feels like you're just doing the same thing,
weak in, weak out without any variability. Yeah, and I wonder like this, you set and
this makes sense that the people might figure out like a certain way and how
to optimize the dungeon even more if nothing else changes from the affixes,
right? So certain comp or whatever. And I wonder if that's like a good thing or
a bad thing when it comes to like community perception of like the
metta because we've had issues in the past where the community will look at what the
high-end players do and what they run and then they'll only invite those classes right
and I wonder if because what we've had before is that the meta would be played in every
dungeon but I personally don't think that unless that met that certain comp is like
really far ahead I think if the comps are a little bit closer to each other then
I do think that playing a different comp per dungeon does make sense because all of
that are very different. I just think that in the past the teams have not adjusted their
comp just because it's too difficult to change your comp and if the affixes change everything
so much from one week to the next that it would be just way too hard to always adjust
your composition. So I think they just stuck to one comp and that's it. But now without
those affixes changing it is very possible that the high-end teams decide, especially
now with the warbands, where it's very easy to switch, they might just switch
your comp a little bit, like play a different tank, then we play Guardian and Preservation
Voker and the next time they're going to play Auger Voker and Rasta Druid plus a different
tank or whatever, right? That's all possible. And then I wonder if that's like, has a good
effect on the rest of the community or not? And I think it's good if the top teams
like Switch comes more. I think it's probably better because there's more variety
in.
Yeah, and people are less likely to say you need the God Comp. I didn't experience
like the god comp meta, but I know that has been an issue over the last few years, right?
Where it's like, you have to play this, otherwise you're kind of doomed at high end keys.
It does, I mean, there are issues on either side, right? There's the issue with player
retention, there's the issue of the trickle down of top level comps, there's the issue of, well,
is it actually enjoyable to have to spend, you know, hours on hours looking at spreadsheets,
trying to work out if this damage profile is better than this damage profile.
But we'll see. We'll see how it goes over the next few months
We'll see if anything does change up at the moment
We are seeing siege of Buralis coming out from Jinji coming in 15 minutes out of well
They'd like to clear it in under 18, but I don't think that's gonna happen
They're still having Hadal and Vick goth left to go. I hate that last boss. Why?
I don't know. It's just like you're fighting tentacles and fighting adds instead of the actual boss and then true
But then you fire cannons at it, you know cannons are cool
That's true, but I wanted to say something about
Like this like trickle down effect
Because that happens in League a lot or at least when I played that happened a lot
I wonder if it's still a thing or did people now realize oh just because it played in like a pro
It's not actually gonna be good for my bronze game, right?
It does still happen, but I think there's a
the matter is a little bit more flexible now, so like you see AD carries in top lane, you see these things
and it might be also the level I'm playing at, right? Because I play
mid to low master and so a lot of the time if I see someone who isn't obviously trolling, like if it's not a Nunu with
Ghost cleanse or something, I kind of give people the benefit that because I'm like, well, I just saw Vayne top win in the
LCK, I saw Zeri mid win here. It's like, okay, cool. You play what you want to play and the matter isn't as
defined as it used to be. However, there are still picks that you're like either pick this
or ban this. And so if people don't do that, there is a bit of toxicity. And I think at
lower levels as well, people just get really annoyed when they're about to rank up and
they're like, why are you playing this off meta pick in my, you know, Diamond 4 game?
I need this to stay in Diamond or why are you doing this in Plat 1? But yeah, that
trickle down definitely happens. And if a big streamer says, this champ is troll,
are you picking this champ you will see that happening games as well yeah that is
interesting because I do remember I mean this is a long time ago right like
when set for example came out and we saw Faker and some other mid laner have
like this one we won oh thank you message for you and everyone started
playing set and it was like some low like really low ranked game it must have
been like silver or gold or whatever and everyone just picks that and I'm like why because
you see them play and they like obviously don't know what they're doing and they can just pick
like a super easy champ and do so much better. I guess in lower ranked games people don't
know how to deal with Garen for example. Garen just spins around like what do I do?
What do I do? I'm just gonna die. So I was like just pick that.
I don't want to tell you this but Garen is actually proviable right now.
Really?
Asus is like a mid lane 1v1. It's really funny.
It's so funny.
Yeah, Garen's been strong for a really long time, but pros have kind of just been like,
well, if we slow him, he can't get close enough to us, so maybe we can deal with him, but he's
really powerful right now.
The best bit about the Faker vs Ryo 1v1 is there are so many misplays in that clip.
It's an iconic clip. Amazing play from Faker. Great for the time. But if you look back
at it. Faker wins the 1v1. He then walks under the Nexus towers and dies immediately afterwards.
Both of the Shens in the game had their Ultimates available and neither of them used them in the
fight either. It's just like, if this happened in my like, in a Master game right now, in
a Plat game...
It wasn't actually like a ranked game, right?
It was a pro game.
No, it was sad versus sad. You can't play sad versus sad.
Oh, LCK Game 5 used to be blind pick.
No, it wasn't just like a fun game.
No, it was a pro.
Really?
game 5 pro game. Yeah. I thought it was like some fun, uh,
truly. No, and it's haunted for the rest of his career. It was
like, top tier pro level game. One of the fakers iconic
plays. Interesting. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so many misplays in it.
And it's really funny looking back at it because the players
of that time and yeah, here we are. Here we are. Our faker
going in for the 1v1. We're going to see him trade in the
mid lane. Look at the moves. Look at the blades. Faker,
And what was that?
Right, and then you see me with space afterwards.
And then Faker just walks down mid lane dies.
Like SKTT won still win the fight in the end,
but the Shens had their ultimates didn't use until afterwards.
Impact still has his ultimates.
He was just like, trust it that Faker wouldn't die.
Faker, I think dies now under that mid lane turret.
Yeah, it's anyway, great plays, great moments.
It was a-
I felt like you just ruined this for me.
What, there was a pro game or?
No, that they didn't play perfectly.
I mean, but no one ever plays it perfectly.
And this is the great thing about like eSports history
is it's about overcoming in the moment, right?
Like there are so many misplays all the time
and this tasteful perfection really hampers good, right?
Like you can really enjoy a series.
You can really enjoy race to the world first
when people make mistakes.
In fact, it's even better if they do
because it shows people are human.
We're not watching robots play the game.
We're watching people who have these mistakes,
who've been up for, I don't know,
up at 5 a.m. for the last four days in a row trying to grind out hero exploits, you know?
Yeah, it is very interesting, right? Because one thing that I get asked a lot is the difficulty of
like raid bosses in WoW, right? Like when people say, oh, what was harder, like this boss or this
new boss, right? This old boss or this new boss? And I will always say, okay, of course the new
new bosses harder. Does that mean that it was easier to get world first like 10
years ago? No. And the answer is no, because back then it was difficult just
for that time, right? Of course if you take Echo the way it is now and you put
them back 10 years and you let them compete in that race well first, they
would absolutely like blow it out of the water and win like they would kill
about a week before all of the other guilds, right? But that's just not
hard work back then right so you always it's the same in sports right if you
look at any kind of sports gymnast or whatever like it's insane how much
better they are now compared to what you've seen before sometimes it's funny
to watch like older Olympics where they do some sort of like routine and they're
like yeah I can do this I mean obviously not yeah watching them it's like doing
this and then doing this okay cool it's kind of interesting yeah yeah but
That sort of evolution of skill is really interesting
because there's a big play in League
and the example I always use called the insect, right?
Which is on Lee Sin, you Sonic wave to someone,
you jump to them with your Q,
you dash behind them with a ward
and then you kick them back into your team.
And when it was done, it was debated
as to whether it was even humanly possible.
It was this huge thing, we named a player
after this player because of how revolutionary it was.
And now if I go into a silver game
and someone does an insect,
like cool yeah I mean you're playing well that's cool but like that is it has
been made easier because the mechanics of the game is slightly easier now but the
overall skill level of a of any sort of gamer now compared to 10 years ago is
just magnitudes better and it's the same for race war first is also the
infrastructure right if 10 years ago you told any of these Echo players hey
we're gonna have a private chef you're gonna have a hotel right next to the
venue you'll have a great PC we'll have all these week or a setup for you
You can come in red bull be provided. You know everything's available to you. I'm sure they would have they've been your hand off
Yeah, it's just watching the evolution is amazing. I think sometimes
even I get like lost in the
Perfect is the enemy of good, you know, you're chasing perfection. You're annoyed when people make mistakes
It's like why can't you do perfect macro? Why can't you play the boss perfectly?
Why are you getting caught with the tank buster?
But you forget that it's this massive challenge these players are undertaking and
Enjoying the moments of the challenge is really important
Mythic plus though is boring!
Get into her mythic rage! I've seen two poles!
Two poles!
Right, that goes, he was his birthday! How do you not do mythic for him?
Like, look at Meerus, he wants to pull over next. Like, look at him.
He's desperate to get his birthday wipes into truth.
You have to get hit by that boss so badly.
I love some birthday wipes.
And what does he have to do here? He has to get hit by tentacles instead.
It's just disgusting really isn't it?
Unbelievable.
Yeah not too complicated boss this one.
Basically you want to get rid of those putrid waters.
You have to dispel them but you don't want anyone in the circle when the dispel comes out.
You always kill the tentacle if there isn't the gripping tentacle.
I can't remember the other name of the tentacle first.
Demolishing it.
Demolishing it.
Always kill the demolishing tentacle first.
Then kill the gripping tentacle.
Then jump in the cannon.
Shoot the cannon at the octopus.
Right in its mouth reminds me of the...
Oh, what's it called?
The monster outside of...
I was like, there must be something bad coming out.
Lord of the Rings.
No.
Right in his mouth.
That reminds me of something.
It's the monster in Lord of the Rings outside of the Minds of Moria.
Deep Horrors? Is that what it's called, Sam? Thank you.
Yeah, when Legolas shoots it and they go into the Minds of Moria,
it's like, ah, I think we'll take the mines.
And these are no mines! They're a tomb!
Do you play Dungeons and Dragons?
No, but I'd love to.
I've tried a couple of times, but it's very hard to organize
because of schedules, you know?
It was watching the deep. Thank you, Sam
But yeah, we play magic magic the gallery is the LEC cast this game of choice
I wonder if I really like harsh that I probably do like magic to you. Yeah, it's it's a big investment to learn
That's the problem. Yeah. Yeah, they recently just picked up harsh and again after not playing it for years and
It was overwhelming. Yeah, like also like one thing again evolution of games, right?
like I looked at the cards like what's going on like each card had like ten effects on it yeah and in the past
it only made me two
People know all these cards and what they do, but it's just that you pick it up to go along right like it's like
When I try to learn the specs in wow
I was like I can learn three of these in an okay amount of depth and everything else is just on top of it
But if I asked you what does a demon hunter do you could probably give me a good basic description of everything a demon hunter
Does because you've just been in the game. Yeah, right?
It's also funny because I do think in WoW in general, classes are a lot more complex than
let's say in Hearthstone like another...
Oh, sure.
Yeah, and also the problem in if you play PvE in WoW, the amount of knowledge you need
about that class is actually very slim, like you just need to know what kind of utility
they can do, because that will help you out in any way, plus that then.
But you don't need to know how the rotation works, because that's not really going
to help you unless you play PvP.
it's funny because if you're a really good PvE player and you think like I've
been playing this game since vanilla I'm a caster like I know a lot about this
game right but whenever I play PvP I'm like it's just a world of Warcraft life
what are these mechanics what is happening that is crazy to me that I've
been playing this game for so long and there's still aspects of the game where
it's like I'm clueless about like I feel like a new player
Oh, and let's see what secrets we can uncover.
Just don't take all my loot, please.
Roger, stretch your trove.
I didn't do one of these before.
You haven't?
Do you want to?
You can lead.
That's my first treasure trove.
I mean, you have to lead, because I don't know how to work.
Oh, you don't know at all how it works?
No.
Didn't read the caster brief.
Can you believe it?
OK, I do know a little bit how it works.
OK, do you want to try, and I'll fill in the gaps?
No, I wanted you to do like, oh my god,
you would have never done a lead voice like this, you know?
Yeah, but if you've never done it,
you should feel empowered to do it. I don't want to take your thunder away from you.
I definitely want you to do it. You want me to take the thunder?
Yes. Okay, I'm going to take that thunder.
Roger's treasure trove is now open. That's not a word.
Roger's treasure trove is now open. You can contribute with treasure trove.
You click on the little treasure icon next to the chat box at the bottom or on the number.
You can scroll down and there's a bunch of different trinkets you can put into the treasure
trove. It's the only way you can spend
channel points and you have the chance to win one of these wonderful prizes. We have giveaways
from NordVPN, Corsair, Elgato, Display, we have Echo Merch, we have mounts, we have Heroic Editions
of the War within, we have a bunch of different things you guys can steal away from Roger
in his treasure trove and they here are all the options you have to contribute your channel
points. Yeah so as I was thinking like as you said you can contribute I was all excited
I was like oh I should contribute and then I realized okay that's probably not a good idea
Like if I win to give away well, you don't win from contributing you win from typing exclamation mark
Yeah, also you're not logged into twitch on this
So echo has infinite channel point
Yeah, but after we hit the one million point jackpot, we will pick one of the envelopes behind us
There will be a poll in chat, not an exclamation mark.
You don't have to type anything, you can just vote in the poll for whether you want Team Spiders or Team Crab to be the envelope we selected.
Then after we revealed what the prize is, then, and only then, can you type exclamation marks into the chat with whichever side we are on.
If you type more than once, there is a possibility you'll get timed out and it's, I mean, I'm just going to say it's possible your vote won't be counted.
W. If you type in word, once you have a higher chance of winning, actually.
Mods? Ban this woman. Kick her out. Exclamation mark B's is what you want to type. They'll give
you great information on how to start a bee farm in your local area. They do. It's a great
little snippet that they put out. Natty, I think was the original person. Natty the
mod. The original person who did that for us.
I love that.
Do you want to add in any thunder of your own?
You got some thunder to bring?
I mean I'm just...
Like I'm just surprised that so many people this early are already here and giving so much thunder and contributing.
Like this is incredible.
Yeah.
Like, thanks guys and good morning.
I hope you're all ready and excited to see Brute Twister very soon.
If you feel this far, we're going to go and do mythic Brute Twister.
Why are you always coming?
We're gonna do it. Just us two. We'll just run and we'll get their lockout. We'll run
up to the boss. We'll die immediately and then we'll leave.
Yeah. See, it's working. It's working.
It's true. Yeah. 100% that next 52,000 is gonna come in liquidy split for us to do
mythic brew twister.
Do you want to beat a tank?
No, you're good. You have to beat a tank.
Okay, I'm tanking.
I'll beat Devavoc.
That's gonna help.
That's going to help.
I mean, that's what Liquid brought on their first couple of pools.
Yeah, there we go.
They did switch back over to Org.
I don't know if we mentioned that earlier today.
The devs that they had in that, in three twisters.
They have a lot of evokers.
They play, I don't know if it's triple preservation and double Org or something, but I think
they have five evokers.
Well, that makes sense.
Double Org is very strong right now.
We should finish out that last 10,000 points off of Org's treasure trove giveaway.
I love the Photoshop of Roger there.
It's beautiful.
Alright, now in the poll you can vote for Team Crab or Team Spider.
I feel like the font has changed from yesterday.
Can we just get the spider please guys? I really want the spider.
Can you count how many there are left?
I think there's less left in Spider now than there are in Crab.
There's so many. Are we actually counting all of them?
This is great content, Nath. We're counting.
Okay, I know how many I have.
Oh, use the poll! Don't type EXCIMATION MARK!
YOU FALLS!
I'm actually really disappointed in you, Chair.
I thought we were having a great little lesson on how to do voting for Roger's Treasure Trove.
And instead, what's happened is you've all written the exclamation marks in
and now I'm gonna get a bad grade on my off-com report.
And I was really hoping for a raise this year as your teacher.
32!
32?
35 in here.
So, here are the thoughts on that, right?
I was part of the group that put all of these into the envelopes.
We deliberately equally spread the prizes between the two of them.
So if you think there have been good prizes so far, do you go for Team Spider where you've
taken some more of the good prizes out?
Or do you go for Team Crab because there's more good prizes in?
Well, I would have to know statistics here, because what if the good prices all came from the crabs, even if there's less of them than the good ones?
That's true, I'm sure someone's been tracking at home.
Yeah.
You know, I haven't tracked by the book.
A whole list, like there's a wall, a spider.
A spider here, crab here.
Putting the string across you.
It's actually all run by Sam.
Oh, I can't believe it.
Queen Ansel, oh.
I think Team Spider's gonna win again.
There's going to be a mythic boost, right?
There is one mythic boost in one of these envelopes.
And I know exactly which one it is.
Spider-Wan.
Spider-Wan.
Here, should I fan Matthew and you get to pick?
Yes.
Am I just going to get the mythic boost now?
Like it's happening.
What if I want to shut the mythic boost?
If you want to shut the mythic boost,
I think Sam will be angry at you.
But it's still possible.
It's entirely random.
Here we go.
Oh, what's it going to be?
We should learn, like, card tricks.
I was like, oh, I did I did some magic during here. Yeah. Yeah. I can show you if you want to do you want to do
Are you going to keep that card aside? Here we are. Yeah, I mean, this is the one. This is the so here
As you can see that cup cards, right? Yeah, we'll shuffle them up
Take a card any card. Okay
Okay, show it to the audience. I'll look away. I'll show it. Okay. They've seen it
Wait, do you see this look put it back in? Okay?
We'll shuffle it up again.
You ready?
I didn't look.
I didn't look.
I didn't look.
I'm reading your mind.
I'm not telling you which one it is.
Is this your card?
How did you do it?
Magic, right?
Truly stunning.
Wow.
What did you learn this?
Wow.
It's something you learn in Mexico.
Unbelievable.
Not bad about it anyway.
I don't have to open this, right?
Yes, yes.
You can open it.
you tell us what the prize is and then we will have a vote an exclamation mark in
chat in a second
I don't know if you could tell by my reaction it is not the middle
ah you doomed us but it is a mischief pet a mischief pet let's go are you a big
pet collector absolutely not okay no I know I got one pet called squally and
And that's the name of one of my mods.
And so I picked that pet forever.
Exclamation mark spider in chat to win that mischief pet.
Feels like they kind of, it's a fitting pet for mythic pluses, you know?
It feels like that sort of time in the day.
Because some people will want to mount.
But when you're doing mythic plus, you just want a pet to follow you around.
You start a little snugly buggy.
That is true.
They are very cute.
Yeah.
I like my, I had a new pet that I got from the new expansion.
It's like a tiny little spider.
Very similar to this one.
Cutie pie?
Yeah, no cutie.
Have you named it?
Uh, no.
I'm very...
Like, I'm not creative with names.
Are you creative with names?
No, I name everything.
It depends.
Okay, so if it's something that I think is going to suffer...
Wait, I just now realized your name is Medics.
Like, how creative are your names Medics?
Like, hmm, I guess the answer is no.
Okay, my first name was Crackfox, but apparently you can't cast with the name
Crackfox.
So, yeah, apparently you're not allowed to cast with it.
Yeah, if I'm naming something I think it's going to suffer, I tend to use Medius, which
is my true cast.
And then if it's anything else, it's just another LEC Caster most of the time.
Love that.
Yeah.
I should start doing that from now on.
Oh, just LEC Casters?
It's just shocks and this is war.
So I'm actually, all of my names are basically just Nagura, and then like name of class, you know, it's like Nagura Priest.
Yeah.
Where it was pretty boring.
I do have one really creative name, and it's my warlock, and my warlock's called Naguni.
Okay.
Because it's affliction, and the spell, the main spell is Aguni.
Yeah, that's cool.
And it's Nagura, and it's like Naguni, right?
I like that.
That's pretty cool, but I absolutely came up with that myself.
absolutely nobody came up with that name instead of me.
Yeah, I believe you.
Certainly not just steal that.
I 100% believe you.
Yeah, my WoW IGNs are not medic, maybe medic,
perhaps medic, possibly medic, I think.
I always have Medi-Mage because I was trying to be a mage,
so yeah, I think I took Medic Cast ages ago
because Medic Cast is just like my usual IGN in places
and then I've never deleted the character.
So every time I try and type in Medic Cast,
like medic cast can't be taken, whatever not medic. And then if someone asks me, I can
just be like yeah it's not medic. If I'm in sync it doesn't matter. Nope not medic. Not
medic. My droid is actually called Nagurore. Okay. Nagurore with like double R. After
the Katy Perry song. Exactly. It's the eye of the tiger.
We're gonna get copyright strike please stop. Oh yes I have so one point. The system's gonna
pick it up. Except I draw it you know like raw it's like a cat do you know it's like
Yeah, makes sense.
Personally, I'm not quite sure that pun works.
I do see where the $10 donation come in.
I don't know if you want to gather that up.
It's on the Chrome browser, not on the Totify thing.
You just scroll up from the bottom.
Just swipe up. There we go.
Yeah, big swipe.
You've actually come down there.
Thank you. I have some issues handling an iPad, so...
That's okay.
Yeah, um, you can press refresh.
I will, thank you.
Yeah, there we are.
And then it should come on.
No?
No?
Are you looking at...
Oh, yeah, um, Discord.
Click on the Discord one.
Okay.
Hopefully this works.
Sam told me it would.
Sam's gonna cry if it doesn't work.
Oh, is it working?
It is loading.
Oh.
Yeah.
Oh, there we are.
We're in.
We're in. Anything without a tick should be ready to read.
Okay, I kind of don't want to read this comment.
Like, I feel like it just did a bad pun and I don't want you to have a compliment.
So that's understandable. Just say who it was.
You can attend all of the nation by sign.
I'm not sure if I'm probably not pronouncing this correctly.
It's S C I I N.
How would you pronounce it?
S C I I N.
I'd probably say sin.
I could see sign as well.
Thank you so much for an Asian that I'm very kind of you.
And they're saying, Dear Medic, thank you for joining this race, you're the best.
That's very kind of you, Sine.
Thank you so much for the money.
I don't know which race it is!
All the money obviously going to games for love, quick distract from the fact that I'm bad at my job!
Please!
He's the problem right in league we have all these weird names so there's this jungler from the CIS region who was
AHAHAHCIK or something along those lines
But it was Cyrillic H's so it was actually an N
So we called him a ha ha sick and it was actually Ananasic and then there's a top laner for T1 whose name is Zeus
But doesn't want to pronounce Zeus. It's Zeus
What is this?
It sounds good though. Zeyas does sound good. There's also Alvaro, who apparently we call
him Alvaro, because that's how you intonate it in English, but his name is Alvaro. All
of these things. It's very difficult. Intonation is difficult. So thank you very much. SIN!
That's very kind of you for that $10 donation.
I think that was the correct one.
Yeah, I think that's the one.
Or Cyan.
Cyan!
Because it's Cyan's and then in.
Cyan.
Cyan, yeah.
Yeah, nice.
Good job.
Thank you very much.
Or Skin.
Or Skin.
There's too many options.
Maybe it's just Bob.
That's their real name and now you've just stalked them in front of everyone.
Oh, no.
Please stop.
This is so funny.
Oh dear no please stop
This is so funny because I'm raiding like my guild has a healer and their ingame name is BobTastic
Okay, right and then yesterday we were raiding and at some point someone was like so Bob
Bobobla they were talking and then he was like so like Bob is your real name right and then you
started laughing and he was like no Bob stop my real name what would have been my real name
I would have your it's like well your character's got the test thing like how's that and then he was like
Well Bob isn't a real name like that's just a made-up name. No one's called Bob
No one is called Bob. Absolutely nobody's name is Bob. Your parents hated you
They just named you after fictional characters. A build-out? There's no such thing as a build-out
Yeah, can he fix it the theme song for Bob the Builder is actually about whether he can fix his name to a real name
Bob the Builder
He's fixed it.
Change his name at depot!
Only he'll call Peter.
Peter, anything else?
Yeah.
That was very nice of Sin.
Cyan, skin.
Bob.
Peter, not this one.
Mythic Blast farming continues amongst...
to canex and to jank the penguin on the pocket
okay i'll be back after emailing
come to the cruise canex 100
thanks
what
can i just
hold penguin get out of the middle
canex
what are you saying
there's 4 million
unfortunate
4 million damage on this section
I'm going to huh? Yeah. What's?
Let's just stand on top of you. I think
The work is too thick the other side
I don't have kick I was fucking dead here. It doesn't make any sense. I was loose. I got all of you penguin
Bugger this shit. I mean the extremist systems
I don't know what to do.
Funnier.
Doesn't cast the same.
On a man like the speaker.
You don't have to.
What's the matter with you?
The Linus.
You're a bug.
When you counter things, you might as well be the best.
Altar kill on large.
Dude, purple.
Holy.
Welcome back to the Racer World First,
where we are here at the SK Magenta Facility.
It's me and Nogura on the couches for now.
Thanks again to all of our sponsors through this race toward first in the
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Red Bull powering up all of our gamers over this mythic prog which we are not seeing right now
Because the players who decided M plus is the way to go in fact, I think it's probably scraped
It's decided. Yeah
I'm starting to get this feeling that scrap just hates mythic writing
I think it does. You want to do as little of it as possible. It's like golf.
Yeah. Maybe you just develop the hate of it because you can't play anymore.
Yeah. So he's just like, I can't play. You guys can't play either.
Yeah. Well, we don't realize is Roger Banzin really kind to all of us.
He's actually whispering inscribes here.
I mean, I think it's like, it's still about missing possible.
But if we reset, we need to do delves. We need to do delves.
What whole we are here.
At some point they'll start farming transmogs.
like. Oh yes and speaking of Transmogs, if you want us to review your Transmog, a $10 donation to
Games For Love is all it takes. Alongside that, we are taking applications on 7TV for a new emote
on the Echo Esports channel. Now, obviously they're going to be moderated. Send in nice ones,
please. They can be funny. They can be a little bit, you know, near the line but nothing over
the line, obviously. And we're only going to pick the best one at the end of...
We're sticking.
Well, I would like chat to pick, but we can only do a two-vote poll. So I think the casters will
get it down to the top two, and then we'll let chat vote. And maybe end of today? End of today?
End of today sounds like a plan. You can also, for $10, send us your favorite screenshots of a
wow moment, something you accomplished. Give us a little description of it. Could just be
be you and your friends could be a really cool, you know, scenic vista in the background.
And we'll we'll review those as well and tell you why it wasn't as impressive as you thought
it was.
It's a cool thing to do, because I mean, I'm not sure if it still works this way.
I think it does.
But if you take a screenshot and wow, it will save it to this like in the wow folder
on your PC, there's like a screenshot folder and it will save it there.
And I rarely ever take screenshots in a while, but sometimes I like accidentally like
open this folder.
wow what are these pictures like from like years and years ago right and it is pretty cool so if
you guys want to go and check out your screenshot folder in on your pc and there's something that
was really cool make sure you donate ten dollars and send that screenshot in and definitely also
explain why it's a cool screenshot yeah and we've already hit our first two charity goal
incentives we have the low wave music track coming out that's a wipe or some sort of variation
on it that they will be making for us with clips of the raiders talking about how they've
wiped on a boss. And then also, Jeth is going to be getting made up, we think as Xalatath.
Yeah, Xaladjeth. Xaladjeth. At some point. Hopefully today, definitely in the next couple
of days, depending on how long it takes us to get enough purple makeup, I guess.
We're getting purple makeup, and we're definitely also braiding his beard. Yes. Yes. You have
to do that whole Viking sort of aesthetic. Yes. He's got a magnificent beard, is
that man? You know what I have? I actually have these, like these, these like rings
story that he put in your hair usually like in your braids have some of those
here you can definitely put in his bird 100% brings all that yeah for now though
the the raiders are doing mythic plus which is interesting like mythic plus
is very fun to watch and enjoyable it's not mythic raids likely see any
moment they could go into mythic pools is the problem right I want to say
after lunch I expect mythic pools but we saw like four this morning that we
weren't expecting to see at all so you never know when scrubs gonna say
Okay, we got the trinket we're looking for we got the thing we're looking for at the moment
This is stone vault. It looks like with them on the final boss you want to
I can pronounce his name. Is it iRick?
iRick, yeah, E, I, R, I, C, H, I, H
I mean it could be German
Yeah
Then it's iRick
It could be English and then it'd be iRick
But the thing is I actually did an official Warcraft guide for Stone Vault
Oh you did?
work of channel and because the way it works like I'm just writing a script
and I'm just recording it right like no no one's telling me what to do and so I
can actually determine what this bus is called yeah I can literally just make
it up and then when someone says that's not how you pronounce it well look at the
work of channel yeah obviously it's how you pronounce it they wouldn't go on the
internet and tell lies like that the mechanics I saw usually you want to
stack the pools a little bit more than they're doing right now obviously
as long as you have space in the middle to fight Iric it's fine. You get these debuffs
on you that you then run over to the void portals and get rid of them and then the void portals
will move around meaning you want that space to be able to maneuver but Iric already down
to I don't know 8%, 9% HP I don't think it's going to be too much of a struggle on
this plus 9 key from, oh I say that, tanks dead, rez, rez, rez, rez, rez, rez,
Canex, there you go, they can do it still, yeah, they got this.
Yeah.
And here's a plus nine, this is going to be giving them Hero Check loot, not the maximum
that would be the 10, but very close to it for sure.
And let's see what we get.
What are we looting?
Gold.
Oh.
Don't see anything.
No, I saw nothing.
No loot.
Nothing.
Wow.
Wow.
That's going in!
Every time it's an O-loop, we know another one's going to happen!
Back to Siege of Veralis with the chopper here on the hook is...
I think it's Wex who is currently being targeted, pulling me into the bombs.
And yeah, relatively simple first boss of an M+, you just...
When the fixate's on you, you slowly kite him, get him towards the bombs.
I say that, Velo just died, got a little bit too close to that axe.
Yeah, so again, we've been talking about this numerous times, but yeah, they're doing in
Plast because they're trying, oh, they might actually wipe here, but they're doing in
Plast because they want to gear up their characters, just mainly trinkets that they
want that they cannot get from the raid.
I just saw Velo be BR'd and then immediately died again.
Yeah, that's the one.
I thought she was like, come on guys, please don't die immediately afterwards, what do you do?
Yeah, so you were saying?
Yeah, like they obviously are doing like a million spot brands and they get all the gear that they possibly could wear in the heroic raids
But there's just some stuff that does not drop there, like for example dungeon trinkets
And some classes just have their bosses not trinkets in the dungeons
And then there's some other slots that they maybe didn't get from the heroic raids
That they want to fill up in those dungeons
So they're just trying to get the last couple of item levels that they need to
Be at the same item level as liquid is in right now
I did quickly check in on liquid as well because of course
That is a race and liquid of course being a hat they are
They did start a little bit earlier because of the NA reset and they've already done those mythic pluses before previously and now
They are on root twister. They their best pull I can see is 23.8%
They had 78 pulls already, which is kind of a lot, like we definitely did not expect this boss to last that long.
I think most of us were pretty surprised by that and they're running a very interesting comp as well on Brutwister.
So they were running like five evokers, three preservation, two Aug evokers I believe.
They're also running like an elemental shaman interestingly enough.
They run 100 to Frosty K's and they're currently progressing on the third phase where the third
canister is empowering all of the adds and that is something that Echo will be getting to whenever
they have that item level. And one thing to note as well for Echo, some people are always like,
oh my god, Liquid's going to kill that guy, so don't you want to go in there as well? Aren't
you scared or whatever? But it's only the kill of the last boss that actually determines who
to win the race and letting the other guild go first
on some of these bosses, actually just like a very smart idea
because why quote unquote waste your time
on figuring out certain things when you don't have to,
like if you have to farm gear anyway,
like if they would be doing these and plus engines
at some point during this week anyway,
then why not do it at the start
and put the pressure on the other guild
because of course, like with having the reset first,
the reset also ends first.
So they are the ones that have to get things done quicker.
And I could just sit back for now and be like,
you know what, we're just gonna get all of these chores
out of the way, gonna see what you guys are doing,
and then we're gonna save some time
because we're not gonna make the same mistakes you did
because we saw the mistakes
and we're not gonna repeat them.
It's also a very typical script mentality of,
let's get everything we can,
let's get all of the juice out of the lime
before we actually go in, get all of those eye levels,
all of the trinkets we want. Also farming valor stones now as well if you are looking for those
upgrades, you know, along the hero track, along the mythic track, it makes it easier for you when
you get to those bosses. Like if a boss dies in one kill instead of two kills, we saw how close
they were on Bloodbound Horror the other day where it was 5% and only Meir is left alive,
right? If you can make that a little bit easier for you, if you can make trash a little bit
easier, you are saving time in the long run. It's not always the most exciting way to
watch because you kind of have front-loaded or back-loaded excitement in some of the mythic pools,
but I will also say often they decide to do things like this in the morning because people
are still waking up a little bit, right? And Sam has decided to schedule me on all the morning
shifts, which means that I am also waking up as we watch the Ampluses, you know? Thank you, Sam.
I didn't want to say that, I think it looks like, I don't know when I'm sure it's certain,
but it looks like Liquid is going to go to bad night, it's really late for them.
Of course, a pretty big time difference here.
Yeah, I must be right, mid-night, yeah?
Yes, it's mid-night, I think.
Obviously, they are on the west coast.
Whenever I do west and east, because the north and south is like easy to me, right?
and right and the west and east are actually somewhat difficult and I always have to do the game where I
what's the game oh you don't know like you don't have like a a say or like a sentence oh yeah never
eat shredded wheat oh okay I have the german one okay that knee on a cypher bashing what cypher
that's soap okay don't wash without soap yeah and I always have to do it to figure out west
but then it's always the last one so it's like they are in the west coast
yeah that makes sense I'll be honest America's just like a big blob yeah you
get flown there and it's like does it take an extra hour does it take an
extra two hours depending on where you fly yeah but nine hours difference right
between us and a liquid so huge time difference midnight for them they're
about to they're heading to bed they're gonna maybe do some offline
quick super secret shenanigans who knows like most of us will first do gets to
at the end of the day and then they're gone which means that I wish we like
whatever like the other guilt goes to sleep it like gives you this like kind
of like relief yes I feel like right because you know they're not gonna be
doing anything crazy and they're not gonna be progressing for a while so it's
like the ball is in your court I guess yeah you have all the impotence on
you but there's also more pressure on you right because if Echo gets to the end of today and they
haven't progressed through Twister obviously as you say Last Boss is all that's important but
Liquid Awakened will be like we're at 24% and Echo is still at 75 or whatever their last pull
was I can't remember the exact number so it wasn't 75 it must have been higher because otherwise
it would show on our wonderful overlay on the right foot to us with the use of Warcraft Logs
Obviously they could have gone competitive mode or non-competitive mode where you don't track the pools
I've learned about that yesterday
But we'll see my expectation still is that we will have at least a few mythic pools today
I think that's the hope of everyone watching as well
And the hope of everyone watching is to see some cool cats some transmogs
Maybe some world walk off screenshots some seven TV emotes
This is your opportunity chat you get the chance to possibly add a cooler mode to echo eSports channel
We've already had Blilatath, these are the good ones, we have Medic Gregs, you've got
Preach Hotdog, a lot of these are very fun, you know?
Alex Cake, I think it is, or Fat Boss Cake, I can't remember what the Alex one is.
The Discord login didn't work.
Oh no, don't go on the app.
Don't go on the app.
Was it the...
Yeah, you need to be in Chrome.
Yeah.
Okay, don't worry.
False alarm, false alarm.
Okay.
Wow it.
Not wow it.
Wow it's not wow there's a chrome tab with tiltify it is it is a chrome abacus we're gonna
do at the open apps yeah i left my how to use ipads for dabby's book in sweden unfortunately
did you find it i got it okay okay no new donations unfortunately wow you really don't
want us to see your screenshots i think you have to press the refresh button because i do i
I remember speaking at 4755, I don't remember 65, but maybe I'm incorrect.
It does often happen that I'm incorrect.
There is something.
Oh, is there?
I thought you said there were no new ones.
It literally just happened a second ago.
It literally just happened right now.
It happened a second and 23 minutes ago.
There's no way that happened 23 minutes ago.
Definitely just happened for us.
Yeah, thank you so much for Marion Gaming.
Thank you.
I'm sure they're still here because they just donated a second ago.
Yeah.
Thank you so much.
Um, they donate $10, thank you so much, I appreciate that, and they're commenting,
I should probably read it first before I read that last. Yeah, I do that with the names as well.
Oh yeah. Love the energy of you guys, wish I had time to get involved in the race so first,
but life happened, love you guys, keep up the great work, greetings from the Netherlands.
Thank you so much, Marion, greetings back to you from Cologne, that's where we are.
That's exactly where we are. It's also a fragrance that you can put on.
What's your favourite fragrance that you put on?
Oh, that I put on?
I use...
Oh, what is it?
It's...
I can tell you what the bottle looks like, but I'm not sure if you're going to have much.
Please tell me what the bottle looks like.
Now I'm very interested.
It's a rectangle.
It has a white edge pattern on the front, and then it's got a little silver top.
Silver top?
I wouldn't press it.
Yeah, they killed me up there.
I also have the pack of a band one the gold one that everyone has oh
Yeah, yeah a million or something, but I like the other I think it's you a boss. I don't often use polona
I'm gonna be honest. Yeah me neither. Yeah, one of the joys of working in TV. Yeah, there's sort of no one can smell me
Well, I mean I can't I didn't want to tell you like
Do you think they have good Cologne in Cologne? Do you think that's a thing?
I honestly don't think that that's like a thing, like they should market it.
Like why isn't like every second shop a Cologne shop?
Maybe one person cornered the market early and then everyone was like nah.
Probably.
I don't know with the puns now. We have Colch. Why do we need Cologne?
To be fair in German it's not the same like it's like an English pun
another German. Well it's not even Cologne in German. Yeah it's Cologne. Cologne does not
mean like perfume at all. What is perfume in German? Perfume. Perfume? Yeah. Perfume.
So very French. Yeah. Yeah. Rename the city. I agree. This is, we're in a perfume. Perfume.
Perfume. Can you tell we were up at about 5.30 this morning? I think we've gone to that
point where it's pretty obvious that's what was happening. Like I was trying to actually make a
point earlier but then I got distracted by the whole cologne firm thing. What was the point?
I did read the direction! Yeah we did read the direction! Amirian Gaming, thank you so much
for the donation to GamesBlover, it's an incredible charity that raises money for
distraction therapy for children in hospitals who are suffering and for internships and
scholarships for those same kids in STEM fields. It's a great charity, it does a huge amount of
great work. I know a lot of people have talked about how powerful it is and how helpful it is
to have that ability when you are in, often you're in hospital for months at a time when you have a
chronic illness and having just a bit like an outlet, a release where you can express yourself,
it is very powerful. Like I actually think there's a documentary coming out about a child
with the chronic illness who played World of Warcraft a lot. Oh really? Yeah I've seen it advertised a
couple of times on Twitter but I can't remember what it's called. I'm sure one of our production
staff will be able to find out about it and not tell me or tell me if they wish. I don't really
mind which way you want to go about it. Interesting. Can we look up trinkets because
we've seen mists and we've seen seizure brawlers a couple of times today and it definitely feels
feels like they are farming something in particular here for the raid.
Oh, spyglass, yeah that makes sense.
We do love a bit of a spy, we have the spymasters web, we're looking for the spyglass trinket
as well.
That's what we do on the liquid streams as well, just you know, echo fully going into
that rogue mentality.
It's funny because sometimes people get a little bit upset about the whole stealing strategies,
right?
Like, oh, can't you come up with the whole thing?
Why don't you steal?
And the thing is, I mean, like, the race rule first is not quiet.
Like, it's not an official tournament, obviously, it's like a community-based tournament,
and there are no, like, the only rule is, like, whichever guild kills the boss first
wins.
rule. There's nothing else. And Blizzard is not involved contrary to some people's
beliefs. Blizzard is not actually doing anything officially with the race. Of
course they are like in the background making sure that the boss are tuned and
if there's a bucket trying to fix it as fast as possible and so on right. But
there's no such thing as like it being as fair as possible. In fact it's
pretty far from being fair. The reset is different. It has different kinds
impact on both the guilds. Some people say that having to reset first is only an advantage,
and it's not actually true. There are some things that are an advantage for
Dany Guilds, and it's that. It's the fact that they have to, at some point, pull the bosses
before Ekko does, and they're basically showing their strategies. Ekko, of course,
having to reset later, need to somehow gain an advantage otherwise, and that's what they're
they're doing, they're trying to really milk it as much as they can to make up for that
reset that was later. And they're just like saying, okay, guys, you get the reason first,
you go pull the bosses first, we're just going to see what you're doing, and then we're going
to waste less time. And that is exactly why Echo, not only that, like they are of course
trying to get as much info from Liquid as possible, but Liquid is now asleep, so
they're not going to get more info, they're still doing Mythic Plus. So you can tell
it's not only that, of course, they also need to do Mythic Plus, they're not
just wasting their time in there. This is obviously also giving them item level.
Yeah, and there will be people behind the scenes as well, spending some time now to
analyze the pulls, make sure they know exactly what's going on. And as much as
stealing strategies is this idea, right? Like if Echo only steals strategies, if
they only look at what Liquid do to kill bosses and then do it, they lose the
race. Yeah. Because at some point you have to overtake, otherwise you're
not gonna kill the boss first, right? And every moment that they are doing
N pluses is a moment closer. We are to EU reset. It's a moment NA closer to reset as well means
that they'll get their greater votes first. They have that time advantage often maintenance in the
first week is a bit longer than maintenance in the second week as well. I think it was five hours
for NA this week, whereas usually in the second week, a little bit quicker for them. So they
won't have that time cut into like they usually would is a very interesting battle. And
obviously there will always be people talking about well, if NA wins, some people will say,
well they get the expansion earlier so obviously they're going to win it. If Echo wins they'll be
some people saying well they just look at it liquid stretch and then copy them and eventually
overtake them but that idea of there being a multifaceted advantage and disadvantage depending
on where you are in the world is really interesting obviously yeah I also think it's interesting and
I think it's like some people think it's always like the same yeah like some people say oh it's
always an advantage to have this or it's always an advantage to have the other thing
But I think it's very very like race dependent. Like on one race a certain thing is going to be
more or less an advantage because like let's say for example um liquid pulls certain bosses first
and they encounter a lot of like bugs or things that Blizzard then fixes later. Yeah. If that is
true then they will of course lose more time doing that race to the bugs. Well Ekko maybe does
not because they they come to the bosses later and then the bugs have already been fixed right.
And sometimes that does not happen as much, like in another race, maybe there aren't many bucks, so that's not going to be such a big downside, right?
So definitely think it's like from race to race, it's going to be different on how much advantage or disadvantage a certain thing is, right?
Yep, and sometimes you have bosses that are tuned a little bit easier, like Aburus, much harder for Ekko to ever catch up on that sort of race, right?
Because you don't have the reset, you're doing it in the first race, a first reset, and it becomes a lot harder for Ekko to actually ever get that time
back now. So, we'll see you tomorrow for our Echo Raiders. I do see another donation has come in.
I'm wondering if we have a 7TV Emote suggestion reminder for $10, two games for love. You can
suggest your 7TV Emotes. You can also show us your transmogs. You can show us your favorite
WoW screenshots of all time. You can show us cat pics. You can show us dog pics. Basically,
we'll look at anything interesting. That's kind of the vibe we're going for right now.
So obviously don't send in weird stuff guys, cool stuff, you know?
We have mods checking it.
We got a nation from Grimm, $10, I appreciate that.
I can't believe Grimm is fixing everything in the background here for us, hand donating
to charity as well.
It could be a different Grimm.
No.
You're sure it's the same Grimm, there's only one.
It has, there's only one Grimm in the world.
Thank you Grimm, make sure you fix those ethernet cables.
No, of course a different Grimm, thank you so much for the nation and they're
saying, let's go Akko, happy to support this charity.
Thank you very much Grim.
Thank you so much.
That's really kind of you.
Did they send a picture or anything alongside it?
I don't know.
Still no 7 TV emotes.
There's so many good ones out there.
I'm really looking forward to seeing what chat comes up with throughout the course of the
day.
Reminder, we will pick our best two of all the emotes suggested and near the end of
the day we'll have a chat poll to vote for which one gets added to the Echo Esports
stream.
If there are none, we're just going to add one of me.
That's all that's going to happen.
I'm going to choose that.
gonna add it in. If you could add any emote, what would you add? Or if you could just make
an emote.
When this is in gold. I never type in Twitch chat. I'm actually not at Twitch chat, the
chatter.
Wow.
Yes, the lurker, the whole time, yeah. Do you find sometimes, this is a bit of a content
creator problem that I have sometimes, is I'll go into people's streams with lower
of viewer numbers and I just want to chill, I just want to watch and play the game and
then if I type something, the chat then it kind of becomes about you and that feels really
bad. Yeah, I get that too often. So sometimes I just I'll sit in someone's chat and then
as I leave, oh thanks, who asks, great, that's actually really bad. Yeah, but sometimes as
I leave, I'll say something. I'll be like, Hey, really enjoyed watching your stream
the last however long I would see. Yeah, that's actually a good point. I usually don't even say
anything when I leave because yeah I don't like when, because when I watch Twitch I don't
usually actively watch. Like I'm not sitting there and only watch Twitch. I usually just put
it up on my second screen and I feel like if I start tapping something then because I'm getting
a lot of attention then I also have to like go and listen actively and like type back and
and whatever. I don't have the time for this.
I got that.
So I don't want to time anything at all. And again, it just puts attention away from the
streamer.
Yeah, it's not the intent ever.
It's not the intent. Sometimes I do think the streamers are not necessarily annoyed
by that though. Especially if maybe there's nothing super important going on or interesting
going on then they maybe don't mind that they talk about a different person. But yeah.
it's like you can't ask them first yeah so it's weird yeah you want to ask them
hey can i type in your chat it's like i'm typing in your chat now i'm sorry
it's the worst that when people come into your chat and just ask where other people are
oh that's horrible it is so much like i'm not this person's keeper i just i just want to do my
stuff yeah just do my stream it's rare enough that i do it i have to play league of legends
already don't make my day worse you know it's really bad because um i actually always
wanted to be a League of Legends streamer, it's like my biggest stream. I'm not joking,
like I started streaming Hearthstone and then I got so bored of Hearthstone because I still
liked the game and it was, but it's just not a game that I can stream for like eight hours
without breaks, right? I feel like that's like more of a chill game. So I was like,
I need a different game to stream. I'm going to stream League. So I started streaming League,
but League back then was such a big like game on Twitch. I had a really hard time like
getting recognized even with like a decent amount of viewers um and it's just like it just never
worked like i tried it for months and uh i felt like you know what if i hit master i'm gonna be
able to do it like you know i'm a woman being master and all and then i hit master and i was like
yeah still yeah so it's like well it's like wow such a saturated market yeah i mean wow is
similar now right like wow is similar now but back then it wasn't and i get i had a history
and wow like being world first I mean I guess definitely help there but yeah humble break
also help these children out of this building yesterday do you see that
like you let me your Lamborghini as well it's so kind but next time like bring it back a little
I didn't want to go over the speed limit you know.
The other levels were sad that this one was next to me.
Yeah I'm great.
How long ago was it that you got your world first now?
Forever ago, like the last one I got was...
I think the last one was Archimonde.
month which is half ice at the del which is in walls of Jenner. Wow okay before I was born.
Before anyone is watching this show is first born. Yeah that's true that's a big thing that's
happening these days as well I'll be like oh yeah I started doing this at this age and they were
like oh what year is that I was like yeah 2004 and they were like wasn't born I was like please
Please don't say that! It hurts so much!
It is funny because I do think like gamers in general have become older as well, right?
Obviously, because there's new gamers that come in and also the gamers that have been gaming for a long time
They're still playing and the age difference has gotten bigger
And it's so interesting because when you play online with people you don't know their age
That's not like if you talk to them, you'll like understand. Yeah, but sometimes I'm still surprised like when someone tells me how old they are when they're like, they're like, I don't know, 10 years younger. And I'm like, wow.
People play games at that age?
But it's also like we kind of grew up with the gaming boom. Like when it was when you could start playing online, I remember even to high school, I didn't play any online games. It was all like you buy a PlayStation, you buy some games to the PlayStation, right?
it was only when I got to university that I started playing online games and obviously
while I was out before that but I didn't play well. I'd play well. Yeah Indian internet wasn't
good enough to do that unfortunately. But we kind of grew with it and we've moved from
from the space especially in league eSports where if you were over 20 you wouldn't be picked up
for a team. So you're too old you don't know how to play etc and now you have people who
are 30 winning championships. Yeah that is crazy. Yeah people it's just the the knowledge of
How am I explaining this?
The ability to grow up with something and have it endemic in your life makes it so much easier
for it to be a long-term part of your life.
Whereas if, say they introduce something now, right, we're, I'm 33, not going to ask you
your age, but...
33.
Okay, we're both 33.
If they introduce a new type of game now, it's a lot harder for us to learn that
and fully comprehend that in a way someone who is 14 now will do over the next five
years.
have to dedicate our lives to it where someone who's 14 can just play it for a few hours a day and it
becomes second nature to them. Like touchscreens. Kids these days don't know how to use a keyboard.
There's actually like studies. They'll go into school and be like, oh, can you type out this
document? It's like, no. Because I've just been, I've used a touchscreen for my entire life,
right? It's an interesting change in how we interact with technology. Super, super fascinating.
Oh, our Akara. So, Trinket farming, we assume. I did want to, I guess, interesting,
So I would like the touch screen as you say.
Oh, sorry, yeah, I was just like, I'm just like, well, I don't know, I'm fine.
You just take from all the buckets, you know, we can talk about whatever we want.
I just wanted to say that, like, touch screens in general are very interesting because I've seen, like, especially like really young children,
they don't understand the difference between a touch screen and not that touch screen.
Like, they've seen a touch screen before and then they think everything's a touch screen, right?
They'll just walk up to things. They're not even like a screen. Yeah, they're like just like swipe a photo frame. Yeah
You would never have thought of that like 15 years ago 20 years ago
I've seen like a video of a child sleeping and they were swiping like in their dream Wow
Cuz that like, you know, they think you can swipe everything like it gives you new stuff, you know
So it's like
like idea of how we'll evolve with technology, become more part of our lives.
I wonder what the next step is, you know, is it brain implants?
Is it virtual reality?
It's a new donations coming in.
Oh, let's go. What have we got?
All right, we do have a $10 donation by Suki.
Thank you, Suki.
And they're asking.
That giggle is worrying me slightly.
They're asking, medic, what's your favorite bean brand?
If it's anything but Heinz, we can't be friends.
Heinz do beans.
Heinz do do beans.
Oh.
Oh God.
They're maple syrup.
They're just asking if we have maple syrup beans and I just cannot.
No man.
Maple syrup beans.
There's a light.
Oh my God.
That actually sounds better than the tomato thing.
No, I do think it has to be Heinz.
But I also think if I'm going to get baked beans, it's a rare occurrence.
It's a treat, you know.
Okay.
I will go for Heinz because I know they're good.
I'm sure there are other bean brands out there that are equally as good.
But when you grow up-
How come you're being so serious about this right now?
Sufi asked me a serious question.
It's just funny to me because I don't think I've ever like seriously eaten baked
beans except for like a challenge, like a disgusting challenge.
So what about if we hit $4,900?
No!
I've eaten this before.
Every time I watch the second broadcast I have to eat baked beans, I don't like it!
Stop it!
Maple syrup beans.
Sounds good.
I'm gonna bring grey cheese next time.
I love grey cheese.
I have an eclectic palette, just because I like baked beans doesn't mean my palette's bad.
Yeah!
I mean, it can mean...
The problem with taste is it's subjective.
That is true.
Well, actually no, you're wrong.
Everything that I like is objectively true.
It's objectively true and everything everyone else likes is objectively wrong, assuming you
don't like it.
Yeah, I understand that.
Yes.
Hines beans with the little sausages.
That's your favorite one?
Yeah.
Because it's nostalgic.
And it's like the Greg's thing that we had the other day.
Do you usually eat this warm or cold?
Warm.
Okay.
Because I don't think I've ever eaten it warm.
Maybe that's the issue.
Oh, it's much better warm.
Yeah, okay.
Because cold is kind of disgusting, yeah?
Yeah, cold is...
I would never eat beans cold.
So maybe I should just eat this warm ones and see if I like it.
I mean I would always eat beans cold because it's funny, but like warm beans is the way to go.
I also think like beans aren't the most delicious thing in the world.
I know that's gonna upset chat, but it's similar to the Greg sausage roll I had the other day,
where it doesn't matter that it's not the best.
It's a childhood reminder and it's comfy food, right?
The idea of like your comfort foods is actually a myth.
Do you want to talk about that for a second?
I've kind of got everyone.
I love that though, yes, let's talk about it.
Yeah, comfort food, it's a myth.
They did a bunch of studies where
they tracked people's mood
and they asked them what their comfort food was
and then when they were sad
they provided them their comfort food
and then for some of them when they were
they ranked it an equal sadness scale
they didn't give them the comfort food
and within an hour they both returned to the same
level of sadness or happiness
So the comfort food actually wasn't giving you any increased happiness.
Okay.
However, it tastes nice and it feels good, you know?
That is true.
Like, from the, from the study, it doesn't do anything, but I like some ice cream in my belly.
You know what I'm saying?
Exactly.
What is your, okay, what's like a weird thing you ate when you were younger?
That is like, that is actually just weird.
Like, not baked beans, but like, some, some weird combination of food or whatever.
I mean so I wouldn't call it weird but I love dosa and idli. It's like Indian breakfast food.
Okay. So it's like curry, you have a sambar which is like a curry sauce. It's like a watery
curry sauce. They have your chutneys. Usually you have a green chutney and then a tomato and
a coconut chutney. And a dosa is this very thin, paper thin, like thinner than a crepe pancake
that's fried on this big pan and then rolled up. So it's just like a big tube and inside it
that you can put like, masala, you can put some chicken if you want.
We used to have cheesy ones and garlicky ones, very tasty.
That sounds very, very delicious.
It is very delicious.
I really want to try that.
I wouldn't call it weird.
I think it's one of those, like, it's odd to people because it's Indian food, right?
The big one I had was crepes with cheese and jam.
Which kind of cheese?
Any, like, it has to have a little bit of a bite, but not full blue.
So like a sharp cheddar.
interesting you get the you get the sharpness it's a source of calcium and
iron guys I love calcium and iron in my maple style beans delicious I mean I
kind of want to try the maple style beans now yes so do I but I don't think
we can get them here there's no way there's no way we can get maple style
beans here in Berlin, in Cologne. But yeah, the cheese and jam.
Yeah, because you have the cheese. Are you melting it? Yes. Okay, it's melting it.
I do like cheese with jam. Some people say, oh, this is disgusting, but you eat butter
with jam and butter is also like a cheese product, right? Like it's a dairy product.
Yeah, I think people would argue butter is less offensive in terms of flavor.
That's true. I also like cream cheese with jam is very good.
Cutted cheese with jams good. Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, what would be your most offensive slash weird?
Well the one thing that I would eat that I haven't eaten this in a long time
I kind of want to try again is you know what?
He just boiled potatoes and you just eat boiled potatoes and he just makes whatever in and I would like smashed him with like a
fork in a plate and then I put
It's this type of cheese. It's like oh my god
I'm not sure how to explain this, it's these triangular like cheese bits that they're kind of small
and you just like... yeah like creamy cheese, like a cheese spread
like maribel type, is it maribel? no, maribel is definitely not something that you uh...
triangle cheese spread, I'm looking it up, I'm looking it up
there's a bunch of different ones and different flavors
laughing cow is the one, like, that's?
yes, exactly yeah, laughing cow looks like this, you can't see that, it's way too tiny
It's just a cheese spread.
I know what you mean.
And I would mix it into my potatoes, and then I would put tuna, and then I would pour milk into it.
And I would just eat it like this.
It actually is delicious.
It has a name.
That has a name?
No, no, no, no, we're talking about fish.
I thought the dish has a name.
I was like, whoa, is this a thing?
Yeah, it is lavash.
La vache, yeah, perfect, that's it.
Yeah, well, it's the cow that laughs.
La vache, kyrine,
yeah.
Sans conservateur, colorant, aromais,
aromais artificiel, ajoute.
L'original, débouille.
It's funny because when you reach French,
all you have to do is not pronounce
the last couple of letters.
And it sounds French unless there's an s and then a vowel in which case you have to say the essence
It's true. Yeah, there's animals
And you have to you know a little bit of French. Yeah, very small bit. I love it in high school
Nice. Yeah, I was I was actually fluent coming out of high school and then didn't use it
Yeah, that's difficult
I know Italian and like if I read French, wait a second, wait a second
Tuna and milk
We're not getting away from tuna and milk!
We can talk about you knowing our languages!
So potatoes, stump, like, and then cheese, 100% on board.
Tuna? Good, it's like a potato salad with tuna. Milk.
Yeah, I don't know why I did that honestly, but like, because I used to drink milk a lot this
second, like to almost any meal, like to pass that to any, just a glass of cold milk, right?
Delicious, and then I guess I was thinking why eat the potatoes and drink the milk
But I could just put the milk into the potatoes
And then you know that was probably my thinking and I just started doing that and then there's I didn't stop
Yeah, and yeah
That was a thing. Is it like a creamy like is it full fat milk or is it a full fat?
Okay, because then I can kind of be on board because it's almost like a cream at that point and
Like if I put a bit of cream in there, that's just like a cream of potato
I can kind of vibe with that if it was semi skimmed. I'm like you're just watering down nice potatoes, you know
Yeah, yeah, it kind of looks like that. Oh, no
Wait when's it get delivered?
Yeah, which is ordering
$15 maple-style beans
Okay, can we quickly can you very quickly bring up the charity incentives as well because I think we put the maple beans in here somewhere
12 and a half K we
7 and a half K, 7 and a half K, because then it's like a nice little stop gap on the way to whose cast it is anyway.
I actually have to let go, so I was like, that's the import fee.
7 and a half K, I will definitely eat the maple beans. Are you joining me, Nogura?
I will definitely try. Do you warm it up, Mitch? Is that like a warm, okay.
We will warm it up.
Do you put them in like a piece of bread or with a spoon, just about.
We're the glass of milk or we're the glass of milk and other potatoes. Yeah
Julia
We could do a chicken and what's our chicken oh maple beans on waffles
Nice now I'm vibing I'll do it for free
Okay, the shipping cost is the price of the beans, but we can definitely do it
$30 for beans! Two people have it in their cart, though, Mitch! Quick!
It's gonna be gone!
Wait, did we get a cloak? 623? 613. Crit vs. Cloak.
And once again, it's Jinji who is getting geared as per usual.
Typical. But we're so close to our $5,000 operation medic goal.
So I didn't want to go through some more donations because we did get another nation by a Marion gaming
Oh, thank you another $10 by them and that hey guys me again a quick question any tips for beginning live streamers from pro to new
Black Beach years
Maybe we'll ask we'll answer this a little bit later because I feel like
Tell me people have to become live streamers and it's like a long conversation. Yeah, well, we will get back to that
I mean, oh, we've hit five thousand as well. Amazing. I'll put a few so
I'm going to use a go. Let me get my scalpel. What toe do you want removed?
Um, let's go...
It doesn't have to be a toe. Any appendage, really. I'm ready.
I'm going to go with the second toe from the left on my left foot.
Oh, I was talking about Preachers feet.
I'm not going to cut your toes, because that's not fair. Preachers old.
We can take away digits, you know?
You can still play video games with a toe missing.
Although, little toe, you want to keep that bad boy.
Yeah, right?
Very important for that.
This was a second from the left hand.
Also, your little finger is like a ton of your grip strength.
It's crazy.
If you grip like this, right, it's a lot easier, but when your little finger gets involved,
it's a huge amount.
I mean, this proves nothing, because I can do everything, but yeah, your little finger
is a lot bigger.
What are you doing?
Keep going, keep going.
These are my scientific experiments though.
Are you really easy?
Oh, so hard.
Oh, my little finger.
Oh, it's so difficult.
This is great.
Keep it up.
This is great. Keep it up. I believe anything you say. I mean, you're a doctor, right?
You can make things up on his father, trust him.
Okay, we need to get back to a millionth question. I will put that in my mind palace and make sure we get returned to it after these donations.
That we have a $10 donation by Wild Smasher.
Okay.
And I can't open it. It's a picture. Oh, it's a picture of one of three cats he's seven months old in this pic.
Awwww, thank you so much. Wild Smasher, did you say?
Yeah.
Wild Smasher for the donation. We're gonna bring that up onto the screen as shortly as possible.
Come on, Mitch.
And while we wait for the cat to- well, we could just wait and like not continue, yeah, we should just stare into the camera.
We're gonna lose the idea of Wild Smasher's seven month old cat.
We should also just stop speaking to pressure in production.
Don't give in to them.
Give us! I'm so fresh!
Stream down.
F5 to refresh.
Is it this hard to get an image link up really?
I could do production!
Oh my goodness!
You have to vet the picture first!
I get it because the cat has a little cone on!
Always very cute!
Oh wow, Kasha, wow, Smasher, that's what I needed this morning!
Thank you very much!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
huge $150 donation by Baby Dragon.
Oh wow, thank you Baby Dragon, that's amazing.
And they say my yearly donation towards a charity.
Thank you so, so much.
Thank you so much Baby Dragon.
It's a great charity to pay for every dollar
that games for love get,
they impact the life of one child.
Life, that's the word.
The life of one child.
So there's 150 children
that you have helped with your donation.
It means a huge amount.
It really does, thank you very, very, very much.
We do have another $10 donation by Suki.
They say Heinz sausages and beans medic W. Yeah, you know it suki. You and me
Kidney, okay, Heinz best
Any other beans green there's green beans as well not as good. I cannot join in on this conversation. I'm so sorry
But soon I'm gonna be using the maple
Well, carry G, $10 a nation, no message, thank you very, very much, $50 by anonymous.
Thank you.
I really, really, really appreciate that.
That is very generous.
Incredible generous.
Then we have $10 by Madness and they say, Madic, have you paid your rat taxes for
this month?
My rat tax?
I didn't even know there was a rat tax.
What is a rat tax?
I don't know.
thing just say yes I gave him beans I gave him 24 cans of beans that must that
has to be enough for a rat tax I'm on it done thank you so much for the
donation as well so it kind of you and then we also have to be one Kenobi and
they're saying one Kenobi as well because it's the beans and they say no
it's because I there's a what they're what what the toast nice beans I'm
pretty sure. You think it's about Toby? Make sure you operate on Preachers Toes. Oh, okay.
That's fine. I thought it was some weird sort of toe thing. It's Toe, Toby? Toby Won Kenobi.
Oh, didn't Toby Won Kenobi donate the other day as well? I feel like when Preachers and
Alex were on the desk, Toby Won Kenobi gave him a donation. Thank you so much. Somebody
donated this Toby Bryant. Yeah, that's true. And Toby Won Kenobi, yeah, yeah.
His mini dishwasher that I also bought for him, as you can see, good enough for a spoon, good enough for Preach, it's the General Wolves.
Before we are going to get Operation Medic set up, but I want to make sure we get to Emery and Gaming's question first.
So, I am on the smaller side of Twitch streaming, whereas you are on the larger side, I think we would say.
My biggest bit of advice is to do things you enjoy.
you enjoy. At the moment I'm struggling a bit with League because I find myself being too
frustrated in playing the game. So what I've decided to do is just find things that I enjoy
doing and do them more on stream and then the community you build around you is much more
the community you want, which is people that enjoy watching me enjoy myself as opposed
to people that enjoy me being good at a specific game or people that enjoy me being
high elo at a specific game. You can overinvest and be really good at something but if
If your motivation to do that thing expires, then sometimes your community can draw back
from you as well because you're not as good at the thing that you used to be.
So my biggest bit of advice is enjoy the things you're doing and don't do the things you
don't enjoy doing just because you feel that you should do them.
Yeah, that's a very important advice because I do think that people think that if I just
make it initially, then I'll be set.
But things that is just not true, like streaming really comes and goes and it
can stop at any time and especially if you lose interest in it like if you get
demotivated it's just gonna be like a chore for you yeah and it's and not
only is it gonna be a chore for you it's also gonna be impacting your viewers
because if you're not having fun it's really noticeable for the viewer it's
gonna be less enjoyable for them to watch so it's incredibly important that
you enjoy what you're doing so that's very good advice and then in addition I
do want to say that even though Twitch has gotten a little bit better a
a little bit better at discoverability. I don't think that the Twitch is it's very very
incredibly difficult to make it on Twitch by just being on Twitch. So one of the things that I would
have done differently if I knew this before is I would have worked on my other social medias
as I'm working on Twitch. Like just because you want to be a Twitch streamer doesn't mean that
all of the other social media platforms don't matter. They matter a lot because most other
social media platforms have a lot better, they're a lot better at
discoverability and their algorithm works differently compared to Twitch.
Well Twitch is like if you have a lot of viewers, you're very discoverable.
If you have very few viewers, no one's gonna find your stream. Like you have to
scroll and scroll and scroll and scroll in a section to find your stream.
And the problem is you might have the best stream ever,
but no one will know because how would they find you, right? Because people don't
look for random streams and they don't get recommended and then you just
just have a hard time. Well on YouTube for example, you can be a small
YouTuber and some random video that you do gets a lot of traction and then all
of a sudden gets picked up at algorithm and it gets like hundreds of thousands
of views, right? And that doesn't happen on Twitch. So putting some time into
other platforms makes a lot of sense and Twitch streaming definitely has
diminishing returns. Some people think the more I stream, the more money I
make as you just stream forever. And it is true, the longer you stream, the
more ads you can run and the more steps you can potentially get.
Right.
But putting last time into streaming and I'm not saying like stream 20 minutes
a day, but at some point, like after a couple of hours, um, there's a huge
diminishing return because people that follow you, they might have already seen
you stream and like tuned in and left again or whatever.
And other people that don't know your stream, they're not going to see you
no matter how long you're streaming.
So taking time off of streaming and putting it into some other content
like social media, like, I mean, YouTube or TikTok or whatever,
that's going to help you out a lot more.
And it's also going to help you to stay more, um, like engaged
and just doing different things than to constantly have this
pressure like, Oh my God, I have to stream 12 hours a day every day.
Like, otherwise I'm not going to make it.
And no, that's just not how it works.
Very easy way to burn yourself out as well, especially when you
start seeing, Oh, I had, I know 500 concurrence over 12 hours.
If I stream for 16 hours, then I have 500 concurrence.
That's more money, et cetera.
You can very quickly burn yourself out doing that.
I also think one thing that you talked about was making YouTube videos.
Doing that helps you find a voice,
something that really helped me find how I speak to an audience
with scripting for the LEC, like right in my own segments.
And having that degree of separation from it just being you talking,
but also having the idea of,
oh, this is how I want to structure this bit of my stream.
This is how I want to lead into this next point is really helpful.
So doing other content and finding other things to do alongside streaming is really vital.
and taking time off. Try and get at least one day off a week. I don't always get that,
you try as hard as you can, because it does give you time for creative resets.
And we talked a lot about it the other day. Yeah, just having that time. I mean,
even just like taking a walk, if you're just on your PC all day, just going outside and
going for like, I don't know, 15 minute walk where you don't have your headset on and listen
to something like literally just like take off and like take the time to do something else,
will give you like a reset and gives you like more ideas. You creative mind sometimes needs a reset
and this happens as well like when I guess when you have a normal job. Like let's say you have a
job where you have to think a lot. Let's say you are a programmer right and you have to figure out
how to solve this problem then I'm sure those people know that if you're sitting there and
you're just stuck it makes sense to just like take a break reset do something else and then
and all of a sudden you have the idea, right?
It's because at some point you're just like,
like overworked and you're stressed out
and you can't think anymore.
Your brain just needs to approach it differently, right?
Like I have a friend that I used to lost our grade with a lot
and at like three in the morning we'd be in a raid,
he'd be like, oh, I've solved my software problem.
And it's like, oh, okay, now you go off and do that.
It's great, right?
But yeah, I think those are the best things.
Obviously don't expect things to work from day one.
You're gonna try a lot of stuff
and it's better to try a lot of stuff
and fail a lot of stuff
than to try and be perfect at the first thing.
and then don't actually experiment
and don't actually be creative
because you're trying so hard to be perfect.
Yeah, and don't focus a lot on numbers, right?
Oh, yeah.
Screw the numbers.
And I know that it's super difficult.
What I still do is I don't show
my concurrent viewer numbers on my stream.
I don't see any of that until afterwards.
Afterwards, I get an email
and sometimes I just delete the email.
Yeah, I do look at it afterwards
and I've definitely, I've been doing it for so long
that I'm not really getting affected by that much anymore
But I was thinking, okay, so how does it help me
during the stream to see my viewer numbers?
And then I was thinking, okay, well,
maybe if I had more viewers,
I'm more like entertaining or whatever.
But then why wouldn't that be the same
when I have less viewers, right?
So like, there is no positive effect
that the viewer number, the seeing the viewer number
could have on you that you shouldn't have
without seeing the number, right?
So I feel like there's just no purpose.
Turn it off and like focus on the moment
and just always assume I have 100,000 viewers, right?
and just interact with the people in chat
and do your best.
And also don't get hung up on
if people don't chat that much,
especially at the start, right?
Like it's very hard.
If you dictate your stream on talking to chat,
it's firstly, it's hard for you
because maybe there's not that many chat messages,
but also especially at the start, right?
For someone like you, maybe there's a few more
so you can have that back and forth,
but also it's hard on the chatter.
Like if I go into a chat and there's 10 people there
and I send a message and the streamer starts
only talking to me, going back and forth,
I'm feeling tired because I kind of came just to be entertained, right?
And to enjoy the moment, but then I'm writing back every three minutes with a reply.
So find a way to be entertaining without just talking to chat and enjoy yourself.
It's about having fun at the end of the day.
Yeah, and because we're setting up our Operation Medic,
we're going to throw it to a quick wave listening,
and when we come back, we're going to have an operation.
Yeah, I think we've... I'm not cutting off Preacher's toes.
Why not?
Well, maybe we've got a butter knife.
You're going to have to wait and see that you will.
You know something?
Yeah, I can. I'm dead.
We admitted what it was.
Like, where's that guy?
That's some fall.
Actually, it's hot.
Okay, but we need question.
We need it.
We need the test.
Yeah, we can.
Yeah, we need the test.
And also, you know, you're shooting.
Yeah.
Let's go.
Especially only three minutes.
613 crit mastery ring or if not the
crit mastery ring
I already gave it
what do you do?
Wally fighting healer
I gave it for some reason even though I do
my computer said it was a...
nah we don't need it for Alice
we need nothing
you guys saying we're just going for crest?
that's good
we're destroying these scribbets all kind of
we're trying to get them
I mean the mining game is a cool thing
what crest really quick?
500 crests
I can convert normal ones into Herokic Avenger one of...
Normal ones?
It's uh... Cobblestone
I mean if you...
Yeah, it's a bunch of cats
Why need five crests again?
Pull up the fish?
I mean if you can't use Cobblestone then
you can convert them into Herobrine ones
I did that already
I'm only 23 cars
I'm missing
Yeah, maybe like a cash is five
I really want to plug last loss just in case
Can I just do...
I got plus 4 or something?
You can reach to the little key
There's Nita
Oh
Well it's yours
Yep
I think I can
I can
Yeah I'm also killing
Did he get a hard car I'm guessing
Medic we need you right now we have a patient
Oh we do?
We need to scrub in
We need to come down
No I think he's not okay
Okay let's have a good patient
I need to put the patient on the table
Oh that looks bad
Oh my god it's real
It's very bad
What do you think?
Well, there's a few lacerations to the abdomen.
I think it's a proctalgia.
You think it's proctalgia?
You think it's butt hurts?
Okay.
We can have an investigation of the anus.
First up, can you get me masked up on glove dot please?
I will, of course.
Let me get my gloves on first.
How long have you been working in this hospital?
This is my first time.
I can tell.
FORTALGIA is not usually the thing we would first present within this sort of case.
I think it's pretty important.
There were multiple contusions and rations to the entire abdomen and the thoracic cavity.
You're still talking!
Yes, that's my job!
He's dying!
He's not dying!
Do we have anesthesia?
I need some succimethonium, please.
Okay, sure.
Whatever you say.
That's the wrong side.
Okay, what do we have?
Do we have anesthesia here?
Is he under?
Yes, yes.
He's totally under.
Terrible.
Okay.
Yeah, okay, we need the masks on as well. I need you to drape the patient
I will drape the patient for you in just a moment. Okay. Yeah, that's good. Uh-huh
Yeah, this is
It's gonna be very audible for the people who might be watching from the gallery
Just put it on please
I'm just so nervous. Thank you. I think he's dying to the book
Learn one word in med school, it's not funny, a man's life is at stake!
Okay, let me investigate.
He's bleeding!
I only have one good eye.
Okay, can you drape the patient for me please?
I'm draping the patient.
The clamps are for the anal fissures.
That's not a drape, that's a medical mask!
The drape's over here, here we are.
I'm draping the patient, I'm draping the patient!
Drape.
No.
We need to be able to access the thoracic cavity.
Okay, so on the side. Yeah, nice. Okay, and then some tape, please or some clamps to keep that down. I'll investigate. Okay, so how are you feeling?
Okay, can't answer because he's under anesthesia. Yeah, that makes sense.
That's how that works.
Probably should have known you shouldn't I.
Okay, do you have a scalpel?
We do have a scalpel, Dr. Medic.
Okay, that's a pair of tweezers.
But we can try. Okay.
As a medical student, can you explain to me where you would, where you'd access first?
I would access that middle area!
The part of your brain that remembers things!
I would try to do that too!
The middle area! I would...
I would start with the middle!
You're gonna be fine!
Pretty sure worry about it!
He has some butterflies in his stomach so we're gonna try and remove the butterflies if we can.
Is this one of your hairs?
Probably.
It's a bit too short. I think it might be mine.
We usually use some sort of hair net for this sort of situation.
But here we go.
Okay.
He's bleeding!
Okay, you're not very chill.
Okay, aha!
We have the butterfly.
Oh my god, oh my god.
The butterflies in your stomach would cause proctalgia.
You can also have growths in your stomach,
depending on what you eat.
Usually the hydrochloric acid will remove it for you, obviously,
but it doesn't work in every case.
I've seen a bit of broccoli pulled out of someone's lung.
You're talking while he's dying!
We've removed the butterflies. I think next I would do the foot.
You do the foot. The left one. The left foot. Okay, well that's this.
Okay, this is right. Okay, this is... Okay.
I'm gonna close the woods. Okay, good job. His Achilles heel is slightly elastic,
but I think we can make this work. Let's have a try.
That does not help!
There we are.
There's an Achilles heel for you as well. We'll remove that.
Very good job.
Can we have a bit of tape for the wound please?
Come on, hurry!
He's saying he's dying and you're not hurrying up.
I'm sorry, what are we doing now?
The tape on the wound! Please!
I'm taping it, I'm taping it.
There's a hole there, he isn't scowling anymore, but we're safe to live with it.
I think he's waking up, I think he's waking up.
He's waking up?
Yes!
You're still asleep, we're fine.
It helped with his pencil hand!
Yeah, we got that out, you think that, there you are!
Thank you so much!
Okay, this is great to see.
Great surgical technique there.
Okay, can he also have a spanner in his foot that is somehow taped back down to his other foot now?
He needs to be a bit more careful with his taping, here we are.
There's his spanner.
Have you noticed any arthrosis?
No, I've only seen Pyrrexia.
Pyrrexia? You think it's febrile?
I don't think his fever and his nose running are the most important things in the world right now. I'm gonna be honest
He's still got some spare ribs that we must
Sternotate
Sternotates I can't even remember what that means. He's got what?
Sneeze he's intubated
Okay, we're gonna get rid of this spare.
That explains it, that explains it.
Oh, there we go. Have a spare.
Oh my god, I'm so madly here, medic doctor.
If you save that for your dog later, that would be great.
I will do that.
Okay, do you think we need to remove this funny bone?
It'd be more like preach then.
I don't think he has a funny bone.
Yeah, okay, very much like preach.
Yeah, it's true.
We shouldn't be laughing, this is serious medicine.
I think there might be some laughing gas in his room.
Yeah, quite possibly.
We do have a broken heart.
I'm afraid that that's going to be quite difficult to extract here.
Do you have him on bypass?
Yeah, I bypassed him multiple times.
Okay, let's just ignore him and walk into another room apparently.
Yes.
Oh, this is a toughie.
You're not really helping there, I'm going to be honest.
I'm still looking up on YouTube how to do...
There we are.
We got rid of his heart.
An operation.
Good job!
Are you supposed to get rid of the heart?
If we're trying to be preach, it makes the most-
No!
Oh no!
No! Lick it off! Lick it off!
I think we saved him.
Oh my god, we did it!
High five.
Thank you so much, doctor.
Let's go.
I cannot believe this.
Okay, he might be dead now.
He might be dead now.
Just give him more beans, fuck.
We removed his heart, and beans are good for the heart.
Let's listen in with wave
Bercal?
Don't do this
No shit
What makes this a version of skip a phase?
Like in a cast like this
Actually double
Tank
Tank down
That's 40 stack, it was sick
Look at Orgo with a sentence
Hopefully we're just patting on those
It's like a counter damage
How many Gucci barrages have you sent in the fucking world?
God, we're even 56 mil
I just think it is
We are so lost with my delivery, holy f**k
I got this on my account guys
I think now we have the next boss coming
I still don't know
But they changed this next process
I remember that
Yeah, a lot of this was cool
Okay
I mean, now would be a good time to kill the guy walking down
Retired Lord
Yeah, yeah, we're waiting a lot here
why is robin parking jim batol didn't you say that's the worst one minus
oh this is some l type shit man isn't robin like 38 years old house but
why is he saying these things this is like sumo like this is like push the
wrist look how long are people this is I just hear cushy he's just talking
I have infinite damage
You have infinite damage?
Yeah, 39 spymaster and...
Okay, I'm ready.
I don't know how to tank with this.
Okay, so...
Who's moving? Is this guy moving?
Oh, this guy's moving.
NX is moving.
Opa, la, that's in front of us.
But yeah, the ice sickest is where you guys need to spread out.
Coming up here, yeah?
Spread out now, guys. Don't stack together.
Ooh, and then I get Bryson, I don't have freedom.
Bryson's too far right there, we're gonna...
Bryson, why am I dying?
I'm your twin neighbor.
I could have lost the fight or something.
I'm just gonna...
I'll do that. Now you need to get...
Like now we need to cuddle up, guys. Give me your body heat, okay, soon.
Not yet.
I mean, not yet, not soon.
I'm gonna soon.
That's the right...
Yeah, give me your body heat, guys. Give me your body, guys.
Yes. Thank you.
Give me haste
I need more body stuff
I'm really confused
Whoever designed this post really is cool
I really don't want to do a stand-up
No no no
You know that Tekken 10 is not that much harder here
Because there is 45 minutes
Oh yeah
They still have a lot more
Like the trash could have a lot more
The fuck where are they going?
And now they are doing this other phase again
No no
Now you guys need to spread again, I'm pretty sure.
Like now they have this phase where they do the front and then they do the ice cycle after.
Yeah, there's permanent knife throw bro, this bleed is omega.
I got stamina check, yeah.
But yeah, now you get ice cycle, watch out, I see my Vigor is telling me.
I do have ult time this time.
Now they will step around again.
I did it so.
Hey, well, let me get this, I know, right?
Yeah, yeah, I like that. It's actually really enjoyable.
He just shadow stepped my drink at use, you know?
What a splendid experience to be honest.
Let us slip off.
We're not out there anymore.
Go inside, temple, go left.
Okay. And Audinian thing knows everything.
I have a cooldown.
Wait, he has a heroic war blade.
I don't have that.
You done?
Yeah, left here.
And right here, right?
I'm so annoyed, I'm OP guy, I'm half man, like, I'm so unfortunate all the time, you know, it's crazy.
Of course, right?
So, these guys are just racking up the damage, taking increase on me, you know, like, rings.
Holy, I'm actually owning on the damage with the GS.
Look at that.
I mean, I do have a quarry, but for me, that's how I would say this.
It's pretty good, yeah?
Like, I'm down there alone this time.
I'm missing my mate.
I'm down there alone, man.
Do we need to go somewhere else?
I mean, like, missing count?
Yeah, I can't.
Here, Pryton's spell, I think, is insane.
Wait, what?
This fucking hurts the deeper.
I mean, I think in general, Mike?
Haha.
Alright, but at Fubo...
Hey, that was a pinky toe hit.
Ah, okay, okay, that's fine.
Missed counter to start. I mean, can we not just do more counters?
I mean, surely we can make out counter, huh?
I wonder what you're doing later.
I don't see any...
Yeah, we are in a city of threats. Wait, Harold, he has 20 counts.
No, that's not that.
Wait, I'm...
There's a wetman, sir, a pseudo-weight.
Oh, wait, what the fuck?
never late that's very long this is so bad this is good down here this looks
good huh I'm pulling it how is this count worse than the start
yeah this count is pretty fucking easier I mean how much count do we need I
guess you can do yeah I mean I have no idea I mean we will find out I guess
Let's see, this was omega-3. I don't know about the start being free. The web mentors and stuff
They have way more annoying than this
These mobs felt like that. No HP. Do we go left or right here?
Let's go right. Let's go right. I
Remember when these assistants were from a car that's like
The unnatural us they have a group like knock
I mean you just kick it. Yeah
We've been here, we don't have speed.
Uh, I get...
Oh, I got clear, it's fire.
Fire, I'm losing.
I'm losing.
Acro and house is impossible.
Yeah, sure.
That was not too bad.
Baby, we have 95% AO.
Can you mine, sir?
Yeah, done.
Yeah.
How do I get so much percent?
You're gonna be lashing last, right?
Uh, yeah, probably, man.
It's last, but it's harder than this.
We also get countered when there's two million bosses, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can't wait much, Josh.
This is also getting countered. One percent.
It's all right.
Maybe we should try and... I mean, we see. I mean, we still need a little bit.
Maybe the last mobs gets 20 each, should I?
Oh, no, there's a lot of mobs in...
I don't know the...
What?
Minus healing.
ah yeah
yeah this is where you need to
oh fuck
hook the ball
yeah I think if you soak a ball it leaves a puddle right?
yeah and you always get healing on top
yeah
1.7 million, 3.5 million, 4.2 million, 5 million
but this is nothing against Queen and Syracuse
yeah
and you can use the different kind of values
what is this, what is this one?
oh
what a good boss
Now this is the A.V. damage, I know that.
That's a bit.
Yeah, it was.
I don't know if Reichen was ready for it, bro.
I didn't have a patch. I used it earlier for just for the rush.
By not for the rush before the dealers.
Guys, room management has not been popping in the process like that.
Yeah, I really know that. But the boss is about to be done.
This tanksmack actually does damage.
What the fuck is going on, man?
Take it all back, this boss is shit.
I don't know, I put it on the ground here, so, interesting.
It's in the boss, it's the...
Oh, I forgot.
I'm gonna get the weapon.
Yeah, I actually...
After I know I see the effects in my life,
where are the last boss?
These mobs, they don't do anything, there's like some...
three crowns, no, this.
Oh, here's Tom.
This was during Rainbow, that was a bit...
I mean, maybe we were playing Fortified.
Could be
Yeah, so these waitings get forced to each what?
Count we didn't miss any count
We didn't agree on who was gonna come back after the break
I would trust you to the professionals. You're professional
Wait, I thought you were doing the intro. Yeah, that's what you're for, right? No, I'm here to have a chit chat
Someone's gonna introduce it. That's not my job. We're back after some
Bitch reset. Let's go again. Okay
roll
nice
fiends
fiends
this is
this is important
it is important but we'll get to the important bit
there was just surgical expertise demonstrated on this very table
true
and you're trying to bring us back into seriousness immediately
whoever those two people were, that nurse and that surgeon
they did a great job though
actually you were a med student weren't you
oh they were a med student
they were a med student
they were not a nurse
I'd watch that if it was on TNT or something
something. Yeah, we can call it Greg's Edie. Greg's Edie. Yeah, Chris, Greg's. Have you
been Greg's recently come to Greg's Edie? Welcome to the show where we talk about Greg's
and beans. That's not what's going to happen. Welcome back to the Racer World First. I'm
Medics and the Guru and joining us on the sofa is Sam, one of our lead producers.
I'm not quite sure of your exact job title. So we'll go with that. That works. Yeah.
Yeah, cool.
I like it.
And we're going to talk a little bit about the systems that
are powering all of our players and even the production
through the course of the race to world first.
Do you want to kick us off?
Yeah, so we had a little bit of a good chat with Mitch,
came on the couch last night and had a chat with Alex and Mike
and talked about the player PCs.
But we just thought it would be sort of like interesting to sort
of take you a little bit further behind the curtain
with what Starforch has provided us for the production.
Sure.
Because the task that we have and the way we set up our production,
We need some very specific equipment and Starforge gave us pretty much carte blanche.
So there's kind of like create whatever we want it.
And because of that, that's why we can do the stuff that we do with only two people.
You know, with our operation is meant to be run.
It can actually be run by one singular person as Mitch is doing right now.
It's a little bit more challenging if you want to...
Replay Mitch!
It becomes a little bit more challenging.
Bring up a factor source.
Where's the music?
Why did I do the mythic?
Where's the mythic?
How many more splits?
That we can't control, that's true.
But they gave us a very sort of like,
hey, what do you need?
What do you need to make this work?
And they built us two absolutely, like,
units of machines a couple of years ago
that are still sort of like running completely strong.
For example, like, main production PC,
as a Threadripper Pro, as a 5975WX,
big chunky processor with a 4080 in it
and 64 gigs of server level RAM.
We are running both machines on Windows 10.7,
on Windows 10 server because that just lets us have
the access to the drivers and system stuff necessary
to run this on this level.
And this time round, you've seen replay from us before.
We've made replay even kind of like smoother this time round
by sort of like putting an even chunkier giant hard drive
that they gave us as well,
which is a Samsung 990 Pro.
The thing that's super impressive about that
is just the read and write speed of that.
Like it's seven, like it's just about 7,000 megabits a second that I can read and like 7,450 that it can write.
Sounds like a big number.
Yes, which means that we can record seven inputs at 1080p 60fps constantly for I think it's 14 hours.
Okay, that is crazy.
It automatically deletes and you can scrub through that footage perfectly at 60fps,
like at eight times speed backwards, forwards, front, in-points, out-points.
That is very impressive. Because the numbers obviously for the nerds out there or for the people who are involved in it.
I think nerds isn't a bad term anymore. You can be a nerd in this high school.
For the nerds out there, really cool. For me, being able to hear like seven inputs for 14 hours, that's super cool.
And obviously very important when you have cool segments happening on the show as well,
so that we can scrub back, see that great surgeon at work, the medical student asking about proctology.
You know, these are the important things that we have to remember because the cause of the race.
Yeah. And like, I hope that everybody's enjoying the show so far.
I know that we haven't seen much mythic progress.
Hopefully, hoping they should be back to that later on this afternoon after lunch.
We should see some some wormy polls.
We definitely timed it for our shift to be over.
Yeah. They said, OK, we're going to do mythic as soon as
you got mythic yesterday. Yeah.
That is I've had two morning shifts and that's a lie.
I did not. Yeah.
Oh, really? Yeah, I didn't get my thing.
Well, it's just Preach and Alex who got it then I guess.
Correct.
Well, who does the schedule do you know?
I can read and write a message to you.
I'm upset.
You can. I mean, just your training
wheels are coming off now, I think.
Yeah, we can actually release you.
You've got the like, you know, there's no more wobbles.
So you should be completely fine.
I think that you will probably see some mythic to all day tomorrow.
To all day.
All day tomorrow.
Thanks for pointing out that I know word goods.
This is what we do, Sam.
OK, someone makes a minor mistake and in our heads, we're like,
if I made that mistake, I'll be pooping myself right now.
So you have to point it out and make a joke of it so people don't feel bad.
We'll just wrap this little Starforge bit up a little bit by just playing a ball
and saying that we want to thank Starforge so, so much for pretty much
just opening the arsenal of fast to kind of create machines
that we can bring these shows to you, both from the player side,
Both from the production side and spoiler alert for an upcoming segment where we talk to Grim about what goes on in his little dungeon cave
This is out of this door to the right
Because that stuff where if you if you thought this was nerdy and you thought yesterday was nerdy when we're talking about specs
Just wait till Grim gets in the couch and talks to you about what happens in the encoding world because that gets
Very deep
Yeah, I think the important thing is we've had a few fires but they have all been of our own making
Yeah, all of issues with software rather than anything with hardware software systems. I don't really remember anything breaking at all
I haven't seen any problems with player PCs
I haven't seen any problems with production PCs just wiring and sometimes, you know installing beta software
But the the systems have been working perfectly for everyone throughout the whole thing you can even see the FPS in the raids
I had a lot of people yesterday complaining about FPS in my raids
But the players seem to be having a whale of a time not doing them
No, those processes in the player PCs are just built for this.
We had, when they came out, like I think it was a year and a half, two years ago now,
we had players start upgrading to them at home and love them so much.
They were like, can we get them at the events? Can we get them at the events?
And we were straight on to the staff, which was going, hey, can we please have these?
But it's not worth doing like one or two. When we did this one, we were bringing more players than ever before.
So we did a big order with them and they sort of like went, yep, absolutely.
Every single one of those.
Awesome.
Yeah, super.
It's great to have your PCs for the players. Anything else you want to say before we round off?
Uh, no, I think I'm good. I'm very happy. Thank you very much.
You missed two beans.
Uh, no, they're in solidarity.
Alright. Heat them.
Is that, no, I've eaten enough beans.
I'm actually gaining weight from the amount of beans I've eaten just accidentally.
Just healthy fibers, good for gut health.
Yeah?
It's our lunch, actually. When we're done with our shifts, there's two beans.
One for each.
Nice.
If you do a better job, Preach comes in and gives you an extra bean.
Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, thank you very much everybody. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Sam. I appreciate it all. Thank you, Sam.
And we're back in Mythic Plus. Back to our regularly scheduled programming Mythic Plus. I did see, I think we got some more donations. I don't know if that was after we hit the 5000.
Remember that for $10 to games for love, we will review your transmog.
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There was another thing, are there any wow screenshots you have?
We can see as well.
And cat pics, we love cat pics and cat pics.
Love those.
I may have miscounted if you aren't seeing any new donations,
but you also look like maybe you're trying to read donations.
There are donations.
We do have a 10 dollar donation by Wixip and they say Matic Beam 7TV emote.
medic beans I don't is that does that exist already I don't know I don't really
interact with beans that much medic beans which one is gonna be me licking the
operation table I hope it is medic medic Greg's already got made massive
sausage roll I survived those sausage rolls what is there's one of the
It's three days old. Probably better.
I feel like I should. It's just getting better the longer it's in the fridge.
Yeah, there's an nostalgia thing to them. Like cold and mushy is the best way to eat those sausage rolls.
You keep saying how liking certain things does not like diminish your taste in like good food,
but then the only thing I know about your taste is that you like all kinds of baked beans and sausage rolls.
We talked about dosa, we talked about cheese and jam.
Okay, that's true. Fine, fine.
You like tuna with milk, so I still think you have good taste.
It's real!
The tuna with milk is way too far.
Alright, so we have five dollars donation by Cinex and they say nothing.
Alright, thank you very much Cinex for the five dollars the games for love.
Three dollars by Anonymous and they say,
Greetings from Jerry the super dog and then there's a picture attached
we'll see if production can get it up at some point.
Yep.
They can ever do their job fast.
Yeah, I know, right.
Then there's a $25 donation by Jace, and they're saying Preach just informed his chat that he's not included in any of the donation goals, he's 100% no bamboozle feeling left out, please include our dear sweet clown, and just because he said that, we're gonna make sure that he's not gonna do it.
Well, we tried to get him in the tattoo one, and then he bailed on us for that one. I'm pretty sure he's in whose line is it anyway, if he wants to be.
And he was doing something else before, wasn't he?
He's in the Naruba, because I want to feed him blood sauce.
I want to feed him a weird mocktail that I'm making.
Yeah. And he was like, wasn't he like, doing the thing with the Tabasco?
No, that was just us.
Oh, just like, rent, okay, okay, okay.
It was on where the jeep died or not on pause.
Yeah, okay.
We can add one.
Like, we'll just make one up for Preach.
If we hit $12,500, I will pour a whole can of whipped cream,
like spray over preachers head done preach say no if you don't want that to
happen okay we do like a pie the face yes hi time $12,500 I can't promise that's
gonna happen because preach will bail on it but if you go into his chat and
say don't bail preach then yeah you gotta convince me I mean he really wanted
to be in it and now you can't apparently we can't open that picture
unfortunately of the previous donation maybe a problem with the URL or
something sorry about that but again if you want to donate for a great cost and
we have $10 donation you can submit either a transmog or a cute picture of
your pet maybe or a wow screenshot go look at your folder and see if there's
any older screenshots that are really near and dear to your heart or just
pretty looking and you can have a quick explanation on why it is important to
And then we're gonna rate it. We're gonna ruin the whole experience
That we are. Say it sucks
It's horrible
Some of the purple in the sky or something
Just doomed
Did we manage to find medic beans, by the way, production?
Okay, I feel like that is a 7TV remote
I think it's me saying beans, but yeah, it sounds a bit weird to me
Oh, I saw a little jump up
We have another $10 nation by Anonymous
Someone apparently in chat made a comment and they thought it was so important for us to read it, that they donated $10 and the comment was
I can making sure Europe will never beat the bad food accusations.
The bad food accusations? Here's the thing, and whoever this was anonymous, firstly put your name out there, I'm not gonna flame you, I'm just gonna flame your opinions.
10 dollars for games for love. Incredible. I will take all of the bad food accusations
you want to the dome if we raise more money for games for love. The second thing is, what's
in Europe? Oh Paris, known as one of the food capitals of the world. London, although English
food isn't good, food in London is amazing because it's an international hot pot of cuisine.
Who comes from the UK? Gordon Ramsay, the most Michelin stars in the history of Michelin
stars have gone to that man. And if you think Michelin are bad at predicting who's
good at food. Just look at their tires. They have to drive all over the world to get food.
What else is from Europe? Well, we have Italy, known for some of the best food in the world.
We have Spain, known for some of the best food in the world. We have Germany. We have Greece.
We have Greece, often known for some of the best food in the world. You can flame
European food as much as you want. However, we have your $10 and we're eating good.
So la-di-da.
That's what you get.
Also we went to a Cologne restaurant and it was actually kind of good.
It was.
Big slabs of meat.
American food also really good.
If you go to good American restaurants, very tasty food.
But generally, the problem is, and this is the big problem, and this is way too, I'm
taking it away from the joke now it's a serious food decision.
It is very serious.
Let's talk about food.
I love food.
The problem is, I love food too.
It's so good.
very delicious. People will judge foods by the lowest common denominator. So it's
like I say I like beans and people like medic only eats beans.
It's only ever gonna eat beans and beans are disgusting therefore medic's food
taste is bad. People see that UK food has things like tripe in it and it's like
why would you eat the inside of a stomach or why would you eat haggis
right or kidneys right why would you eat kidneys I agree why would you
eat kidneys some people like them that doesn't mean food from that
place is bad. It just means you don't like those foods from those places.
Yeah. One more thing to note about... You're an idiot! That's the thing to note!
That's exactly what I want to say, but I think some people are also very...
like they haven't tried something and they'll just immediately say it's bad
and wow how could you eat this? That's disgusting! Like your food taste
is horrible, but then it turns out like they're actually the ones
that are doing the wrong thing because if you don't try something how could you know it's gonna
be right it was me with wow yeah i didn't play well for years and then i tried it and realized i
really enjoyed it but i'd still mock wow players because you know what are you doing the graphics
suck why are you playing this game just play new world you know that issue wow players are horrible
we did actually have that um jesse very nice guy but he he wasn't he didn't say that nice boss
So he didn't say that Met sucks, right? But he'd never eaten that. And he was like,
this looks to me like I'm not going to enjoy it. Then he tasted a bit of it. And he said
he had this weird dichotomy in his brain because he loved the taste of it. But the thought
that he was eating raw pork played on his mind. And I get that. But if you don't
try it, you don't know. And maybe he'll try some more in the future. I kind of want
to get us a Metagirl. Little, you know, hedgehog.
Yeah, that is very cute.
I love that I do want to okay so this I mean I know it's mostly just a meme the
whole pineapple and pizza thing it's just a meme on the internet right like and I
think a lot of people have not tasted it but it's not the pineapple and pizza that
I'm necessarily like trying to defend here but I'm sure what I love is like
adding sweet stuff to savory things yeah like cheese and jam yeah and like like
like apple sauce with like certain types of meat yeah or even like pork is
like a traditional thing.
Cranberry jam with schnitzel or something like that, right?
Mint jelly is sweet and you have that with lamb.
Yeah, and all of this stuff, like if you've never seen it before, like it, I understand
why it sounds weird.
Like having sweet stuff is something savoury, like it feels like it doesn't fit.
Like people always think you have savoury things and you have sweet things and they
don't mix.
But they do actually mix and it's very good.
Maybe I had chicken and waffles with maple syrup.
Oh, chicken and waffles, yeah.
And the biggest thing is you have a, yeah, in salad there's a lot of fruits you
can put in.
It's something that we've been having a lot recently, it's very tasty.
Strawberries, apples, all good?
Yeah.
Apples with bacon actually are good.
Apples with bacon.
Again it's the pork and apple.
Yeah, pork and apple.
That mix is very tasty.
It's one of the traditional sort of meat and fruit mixes that you can get.
Banana and pesto.
Oh.
Yeah.
That's one that always gets people.
Yeah, it's actually really nice.
Banana and pesto?
In pesto?
Like you take a banana, put some pesto on it.
And which kind of pesto?
Green.
Just a normal pesto.
Just a normal pesto.
a little bit of pesto on it. That one's gonna divide people, I know, because it sounds weird
again. I think pineapple and pizza, to me, is more of a discussion on traditional pizza
versus modernized pizza.
Tell us about your pineapple pizza. Do they? Yeah. I didn't know that. It's a, you can
have that pizza and, this is...
Is that scent from watermelon? I think it is. Yeah. I could see that being good,
because the watermelon has that sweetness, but also the refreshing wateriness. Yeah.
water down the mustard. I personally just don't like mustard. I'm probably not gonna like it but...
I also think this is the less strong mustard. If it was like a Dijon with the mustard seeds in it,
I could see it being a lot better. Is that like sweet mustard? I think that's sweet mustard.
Because I do like sweet mustard a lot with the Weißwurst. White sausage, yeah.
But like white sausage isn't a big thing outside of like Germany as far as I know.
Yeah, I think it's very German.
Yeah, we don't really have white sausage.
The sausage is in Germany.
Actually, I don't like as much of the sausage as in the UK.
Yeah, I mean, I don't like sausage in general.
I also don't like white sausage, honestly.
Like, it's not that great.
I just really like the pretzel that he had with it.
Oh, yes.
And the sweet mustard.
Yeah, I can see that.
But it's not really acceptable to go and just eat tons
of sweet mustard with pretzels.
So you just have to pretend that you like the white sausage
as well, you know?
Yeah.
My fiance, we used to get doughnut together.
We still do it from time to time but she doesn't always want the dinner. She just wants the bread
And it's just the bread. Just the lady what the pita style bread thing
So I would get a dinner in brought and she would just get in brought
And put sauces inside it. You really liked it
But yeah, the pineapple thing. Yeah on pizza, it's like I
Don't know it's just a weird stuff with pizza actually well, and I'm not gonna say it's weird
It's just like unknown to other people like for example in Italy. It's very common to have white pizza
But the dough has to be very good for it to taste good and I think that the like a non-italian pizza
Very much focused on the toppings. Yeah, and not on the dough, right?
And it's telling pizza well depending on where you are in some way, but like Naples pizza for example
They very much focus on the dough being like very like they let it rise forever and then it's super fluffy, right?
And then they put very little on top
It's just olive oil some tomato sauce or even white and like some nice cheese and that's it, right?
Yeah, it's good. I remember when I was in Rome
It was you can get like the rouge or the Bianca, right?
Oh, I can't remember what it's hanging from red. Bianca just means white
Yeah, so it's white or red. Do you want a little bit of tomato sauce on it?
Or do you just want it plain? Very tasty. Arancini as well
Well, Arancini are my favorite Italian food, I think.
I don't like them that much, but they're interesting.
Oh, they're so good.
Because they're the guys from where I live.
Yeah, they're reset the balls, yeah, they're very interesting.
They fry a lot of stuff in Naples.
If you have any bad food tastes, or good food tastes,
or just eclectic food tastes, send them to us.
We'll flame them, and then we'll discuss why, actually,
it's not as bad as it sounds.
And so that's what we're here for.
Then we'd put fry some pizza as well,
tell us some parts of it. Is that like a kid's meal? No, actually it's not really fries. Well,
they put potato slices, which is also like thin. I don't know, like you don't do it where I live.
Okay. So to me, when I heard it for a second, what? That's weird. And then they also put fries.
And it's also like a thing in Sweden. So whenever the sweets post about it, they're like,
wow, they you're telling mom would like, you know, whatever. But then it's like,
actually, they tell us the same weird stuff. I think we're gonna find weird food no matter
way you go in the world or things that you don't use in the approach, yeah but my you know it's that
way also what do you think about tuna on pizza I don't like it but mostly because I don't like hot
tuna not because I don't know okay okay I like it you've heard of it I've seen it before right
yeah because it's weird because to me that was like the most normal thing tuna and pizza
but when I said that once on stream they were like so many people in general like what
Tuna and pizza and that's like, how is this not normal?
Like, yeah, because it's not even like a strange thing.
It's not like a sweet thing or something.
Savor, it's just tuna and pizza like that.
Why is it weird?
Oh, I said the maples, no.
No, that's not, it's fries with cheese curds and gravy.
It's poutine.
It's poutine.
Yeah, I had that when I was in Canada.
It was, okay, so I liked it, but it's,
like I ate like four bites of it
and I felt like, oh my God.
Yeah, I was like, how can anyone I'd never be able to finish a whole thing. Yeah
Yeah, that is like deep fried what is it pickles?
Maybe I don't know enough
Like I was just it was like this experience where I went to Toronto, it's loot and
He's like you should get the Toronto experience
So we walked into this like kind of like pub and there was everyone just wearing
Maple Leafs like jerseys because hockey was on and then everyone was watching hockey and then we all ordered protein
And it was and in the background you're like yelling at the TV or whatever and I like oh my god
That was crazy. I loved it though. Yeah, that's sort of atmosphere can be really fun
I think when you're just a lot of people enjoying where they are and who they are but not
like being too aggro about it. Yeah it's when it gets aggressive. Yeah like Canadians
we all know they're not aggressive. Yeah we talked about this on the heroic
week but I'll share with you as well. The Abut sound that OU sound is a diphthong
which is two vowel sounds connected to each other unique to Canada. They don't
have that specific way they pronounce that anywhere else in the world. That's
very interesting. That's very cool and I get to say the word diphthong which
just shows I'm smart. That's the important thing about this show. Showing
intelligent I am at every possible opportunity. That's very vital. Don't worry, we noticed. Thanks.
Oh, but yeah, still M pluses for now. Lunch is usually, oh, it's in about 30 minutes or so. So
we'll see if the raiders decide to finish off at lunch and then go into M plus or whether,
uh, into, sorry, Mythic or whether we're going to continue in M plus for a while.
We are currently in the City of Threads, just to finish the second boss which is Nix and Yix
or Nix and Vix or something. Kind of, I like the way I think this mythic dungeon in particular
introduces you to a few of the mechanics you're going to see in the mythic raid or just in
the raid in general. You have the Shared Health Bar on this boss and then later on you have
both the like the Takarge-S and the Anubu-Ash-esque bosses before you fight that final, I can't remember her name, Kixi or something.
Yeah, Kricks. Maybe? I've written it down somewhere. City of Threads, Iso, Grand Spire.
Oh, like it says right here. I thought you meant a different dungeon.
No, I just said it on the screen.
I think the queen is annex and VX like it's just two letters. I don't know how you pronounce it. Yeah
They're kind of cool bosses, I like them a lot some they are
Like when I looked them up because I was writing a guide for the stunge in to oh
How did you pronounce it then?
I said annex and VX and that's the name or maybe I said thanks into Queen actually that's
I did say but annex is active. Yes, that's just how it's gonna be. Yeah, you're welcome
How would you pronounce the next boss's name?
The coagulamation, coagulamation.
Coagulamation, coagulamation.
Is it coagulamation?
No, it's a pun.
You are actually incorrect on this one.
It's a pun on coagulation, which is plotting.
So when you have a substance that goes from quite liquidy to solid,
or more solid, like jelly,
that's coagulation that happens in your blood, that's how you get...
thrombuses like dvcs and pees etc right um but or like a stroke or whatever um but so this is
it's an attempt because you have an amalgamation i assume which is a group of things coming together
and coagulation so they've tried to combine the two words in an amalgamation in between which is a
coagulation oh we have a nice little riddle of production this is city of threats
I do want to I've never been to France properly I've been there well I've been to stress board but
Yeah, that's not for fun, it's for fun, really.
Yeah, it's like on the border, you know.
But I've never been like at a holiday, like multiple days in France.
And I just really want to go, even though people sat kind of before holiday,
like maybe, I don't know, like some people loved it and something's like,
but I kind of just want to go because I want to see,
like I want to wake up in the morning, open my window,
to see somebody on a bike that has like a baguette on his shoulder. This is important.
Then I can leave. That's fine. You're just going to camp out at a patisserie or a barituary
or something? I need to see this. This is important to me. I remember I went to the
south of France with my other half for like a holiday after Worlds 2022. Yeah 2022. I
I ended up not going to the world's, but we went on holiday and we, I was like, it's
fine, spoke French in high school, I'll go to the Petiterie and I'll order us some bread.
I'll get us breakfast.
Went in first, first bit, I could practice while in the line.
As soon as they asked me a question, I was like, can't be in, it's just, one of the
things I've learned is, because I'm learning German at the moment as well.
If you are fluent in a language, you don't confuse languages.
So you know it's German, you know it's English, Italian, whatever.
But if you're not quite fluent, you will combine the two languages, searching for the right word.
So I'd ask half a question in French and then I'd do half of it in German or something.
Because I'm trying to learn the French.
Also, like one thing that I've noticed a lot as well is, because I've had, like I learned Italian in school for like, I don't know, 13 years.
Because I mean, I live in Italy, my first language was German, it's weird, don't worry about it.
But I learned Italian for a very long time and at some point like everyone else around me that also was learning Italian
They tried very hard to like get the Italian accent, right?
Because they were really like we were all really good at speaking it eventually, right?
But with the accent just in more like a German speaking Italian. It's like it's a very different accent
And whenever we went on holiday, we would speak Italian like pretty fluent Italian to people there
and they would always like
Talk back to us either like in English or in German even and which is like
How do they know?
And then at some point when I got all they down to me that like it's not like the same I like it not even close
That's my biggest struggle of Berlin because so many people speak English even if I'm trying
Deliberately to practice my German going into shops. I'll go in
I'll say a whole thing in German and then they'll be like yeah, mate. So what was it that you wanted to get?
I'm trying, I just want to practice with people.
It's even fun, because my first language is German, but it's a German dialect.
Okay.
And I studied in Graz, in Austria, and I went into a shop and I started, like I said I
moved there.
I went to the shop and I started speaking my German dialect, and he answered it in
English.
He was German, and I was like, so I spoke back in German, and he kept answering in
English.
like wow like they really don't understand my german dialect and from then on out I had
to speak like proper german because it actually wouldn't understand me and that is kind of
crazy like that level of difference yeah that's good I have been informed we need a
rogue for splits so if you are interested in being a rogue or actually you already have
to have been a rogue and have a character that is available I assume for heroic splits
Mitch? Is it heroic splits we need Mitch? Yeah if you have a character that is not
locked out on heroic you can join Echo type exclamation but I've joined Echo
for the splits you can't just join the team. Exclamation mark splits in the chat for all
the information regarding that. Get in, get us some more splits done because
that's what we love doing is more splits. Oh yes! So this is kind of the
Dakaj, Anubhavash, Silkencourt, one of the bit. Obviously it's not a real boss battle
because you actually fight Iso afterwards, but I like the idea of this kind of, the whole
premise of Naruba Palace is that Queen Ancerek has been experimenting, right? And she has,
she's trying to evolve these ascended Narubians into the most powerful form that she can.
So I like the idea that Iso is here, and we fight them beforehand. It's like, oh,
these were the initial experiments that were happening before we had Takaj and Anubhavash.
I knew we were just creative, you know?
Yeah, that's very interesting.
It actually became a little bit of a meme,
because Blizzard has been doing this
for a little while, where they would
introduce certain mechanics
on the trash before bosses.
They do this in a raid as well, and in dungeons too.
And when they started doing this,
people were like, oh wait, this is the boss mechanic.
This is cool.
And people were really excited about it.
And at some point, when people
have this realization like that it's the boss mechanics sometimes it happened
much later while the other people already realized right then some radar will
be like oh my god guys did you realize this mechanic is actually the same of the
boss and now it's such a meme that whatever it happens that there's a
mechanic that is being introduced then people do it on purpose like guys did
you notice? It's a boss mechanic guys! I don't know if you noticed this yet
actually. I should do it when you're like time-walking, it's an old dungeon.
Hey guys, did you know that this is the boss mechanic actually in this race?
I haven't done the raid in 20 years but he was the boss mechanic.
So I think after this pull or after Iso dies here, you're going to be leaving the desk?
I say the desk, the sofa.
The sofas. They're very cozy. I like the blankies as well, very cozy.
But yeah, I think Alex is joining you for a little bit before you go on lunch break as well.
We didn't get the breakfast today because we came in so early, we didn't get breakfast
but like the previous days, it was prepared for us yesterday, it wasn't yesterday's breakfast
I don't think left over. I think it was. Oh you think it was? Well, it doesn't matter
I'm just, my point was, yes, it was still good, obviously. But yeah then we're gonna
to get our well-deserved lunch which I don't know what we're gonna get today but
I'm sure it's delicious because Julia is amazing. Yeah Julia has been cooking at
some absolute feasts along with the rest of the team obviously. I'm really
enjoying the watermelon and walnut salad. Yeah I really liked it a lot. I do
want I'm gonna give you a little bit of a spoiler and I've seen like a pie
bottom like a base. Oh I saw it yesterday as well. And I think that's gonna be dessert for today at some point and I think she cooked it from the
Wow cookbook oh it's just like a like a berry something like cake or pie I'm
really excited for that one we've had three things from the wild cookbook now
we had the pistachio cookies that are gobbled in chocolate they were really good
yeah and then we had chicken legs when you weren't here oh yeah yeah was it good
yeah the chicken legs are very tasty do you have a favorite dessert actually
like all kinds of dessert honest of I it's just delicious I like cake in
general just everything pastry stuff yeah I'm a really big pastry fan I think I
wouldn't count pastries as like my favorite dessert it wouldn't be like a
dessert thing yeah it's like a you know have it alongside breakfast or so yeah
yeah the day do you have a favorite dessert probably lemon meringue pie sure
I never had that it's like a gelatinous lemony
curd-y type filling in a pie and then on the top you just put the meringue.
Or a cheesecake. I'm a big fan of cheesecakes. I also really like cheesecake, not baked like normal
cheesecakes. Yeah baked cheesecakes a little bit too much for me. Mm-hmm. Yeah big fan of
cheesecake as well. Well there we go. On that bombshell I think Alex is gonna
join us in a second. Should we listen in with Wave while we wait for Alex to come
to the couch and sit his behind over on that one because I'm using this hopefully no pro
pro tell you good one see you soon
did we get our car? oh yeah we did really quick and we got the mist and our car at 10
that's good so Mercy just we roll oh well you just keep the seats and then we do
uh what is the biggest thing we need I mean our car has a neck as well right
Or is it missed? No, it doesn't.
Yeah.
Maybe control it or both, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Which one you want to put?
Reisen.
Let's go missed.
Yeah, using the portal.
Get in our power portal, or we didn't do 10 yards.
No, we didn't. No, we did do 10 yards.
I think it was 9. Was it not?
No, actually we did it on 10. You're right.
Yeah, yeah, we did it.
We have the portals to all of the dungeons now.
I don't think they'll upgrade some items, you know.
Yeah, I mean I could upgrade Cloak, I guess.
Then I'll keep my...
I'll have the 90s, I need it.
I'll keep my Neuropean Racers.
I don't know what to do with my Bolt.
We're going to be missed, yeah?
Yeah, missed.
What if I find a teleport?
It's under the old expansion.
Okay, should we do one more dungeon?
Eat and then go splits?
I guess we do...
We're doing a couple of splits or what?
It's just...
Ah, the few people.
Okay.
We're doing splits for perfect...
Wait, Shadow Splits? We can do that, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
That's it.
Oh, that's my dog.
What's your recent...
Yeah?
I did swap all my... all my barriers to fashion 1 to Leech, right?
Yeah.
It's fun, bro.
So I have 4.5 to Leech, man.
It's good.
10.
So I'm going early, watch out.
Oh, I'm on the blue team as I sabotaged... either sweep.
Maybe Mike is muted right now, I don't know.
Maybe he's not.
Welcome to the Duel of course
In shockwave
I'm in micro, I can't, I incapped this one
I take the other, I can't stop this one
I take the other, I can't stop this one
Ah, let's kick this brick
I'm running, yeah
Pinky, let's get this brick
Yeah, he does
Fucking, RIK, I kick him
It kills him when we go up the hill
Not load him when we go up the hill
I'm answering the other one
That's perfect, you're getting live DK coaching right next to me
I'm in person
Good, it's from go
Perfect, the DK
Perfect, the DK
It is the fact, the fact
I thought Acer was also hot coming down here
Yeah, but we're gonna, to this extent
I was following my tank, yeah I was also following myself
that's good can say that much I guess we're gonna be like ranked three
right are yours so what you do before we start like in the last ten seconds we
decide on who's going to open the show. And I think Alex went like this, to gesture that
I should start. I didn't realize that. So I just gave him a Chris by five. Just a nice
little slap on the side of the palm.
Yeah, vital pump now. I feel ready. Yeah, no, emotionally and morally ready for the day
ahead.
Nice. Good to hit. Some of us have been up for five hours, mate.
Oh, mate. No, none of that. Just got up a couple hours ago.
Nice.
Mosey Deane had some eggs. Watch some streams. It's a good day.
Yeah, it has been a good day so far.
Very much.
I'm very much into it ourselves.
I don't think boss is still happening though.
Oh, it certainly is.
Yeah, they're getting ready for a fun day ahead
as it seems that Brute Twister isn't a one shot
who would have guessed apart from me.
No, I said it was like 15.
Yeah.
It's a lot more than 15.
It does seem to be.
Yeah, having a boss this difficult this early
is a bit spooky.
Yeah, you also said it's a choreographed fight.
Did you realize?
Because I didn't.
And maybe chat didn't.
And that's why I share it.
And I'm the dumb one here.
Oh, no.
What?
The charity goal was wrong.
Why?
What's wrong with it?
Read the sentence.
Oh, yeah.
No.
Who is line?
Who is cast?
Cast.
Is it anyway?
Yeah.
That's truly a mistake.
Please fix.
Please fix.
Type O on the internet.
No.
Everyone else wins the argument.
Yeah, making it worse is fine, but it can't stay in this sort of middle ground
where it looks like a mistake.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, so Brute Twister.
Canister she gobbles up empowers that type of minion. It's not just the first one. I thought for a while
It was just the first one. Oh, I thought it's much easier fight. You just pick the first one then you fight
Every canister the end of game all the mutations all the time very very scary. Yeah, that's the noise they make
It turns out to be a lot harder than I thought it'd be
I honestly thought it would be kind of chill and you would just kind of the first kill that get there
Maybe take 20 30 pulls just to work out the correct route. No turns out that is not the case all routes
or from the US. No. Because you don't say about 66. Do you say route 66? I'll snap. Yeah.
What's Jesse talking about? Well, they do say route, but Americans very inconsistent with
their lexicon. Unlike the English English, we only have seven different ways to pronounce
OUGH. Yep. That's a Tharikov. What else? That's it for that. That's the only thought
I had about there's um there's like bow like tree yeah ugh right there's other
ones other ough's are available okay
Sam get up the seven different ways you can get out of ugh ah at $10,000 raise
medic and what even man it's medic alex are both whoa quotation damn pound at
That pound dollar pound dollar pound dollar pound
Estimation mark.
I like they put that in chat in reverse
because it's an exclam command.
Oh, so it might happen.
Something might happen.
I like that you called it pounder, not hash.
That's a brave choice on the internet.
Well, the big one is where you just call it tag.
Oh, because hash tag, right?
I don't like that.
That's too new for me.
Number symbol.
Um.
Yeah, it's a quotation-numbership-boy-
Chrissy Crossy Smalley Boy.
The tiny tic-tac-toe.
There we go.
Whose car is it anyway, round two?
Thank you.
Speaking of Englishisms, that's one of them.
What?
The Chrissy Crossy Tiny Boy.
The Chrissy Crossy Tiny Boy.
We have the Pibidipong machine, which is microwave, obviously.
It's Welsh.
The what?
Pibidipong?
Pibidipong.
Yeah, that's what they call microwaves.
Pobidiping.
Pobidiping.
Pobidiping.
It's still not something I've ever heard before.
Well, the Welsh language is incredible.
It is.
I can't help but feel that it's maybe not the best example of it.
No, another great example.
Yep.
The Welsh love their individual language, right?
And they love telling people who go into Wales to learn it.
And I think that's very important that you learn the language of the area, right?
What do you think their word is for taxi?
Oh, I don't know.
I'd just say taxi.
Yep.
So would they.
Nice.
A unique language to be sure.
There we go.
It works much better when various is here, because then I can go through a bunch of them with him and various as well.
I see.
Unfortunately, as a co-caster, I have far less to offer in terms of language.
Not only not Welsh, I can barely speak English like anything else.
Same, same, same. You know what you can do? Read out donations then. And we've had a couple come in.
Oh snap, you're entirely right. Let me get that up.
As a reminder, we're raising money for games for love, which is an incredible charity that works with children in hospitals to bring them play,
to bring them distraction from whatever they're going through at the time. They also have internship
and scholarship programs and they do a bunch of really cool stuff for children. They say that
every dollar we raise is basically a child helped. Like one to one is the ratio we're looking for.
So far we're already over 5,000. We have charity incentives as well at $10,000. Whose cast is
it anyway? Two at $15,000 RC Rumble at $12,500. Oh. Preach apparently was complaining on his
stream yeah that he hasn't been involved in enough stuff I said we would all throw a pie in his face at
twelve and a half thousand dollars that's nice he hasn't disagreed not well that's that's that's
um yeah that's the same he should have had my about it by now yeah that's his that's on him
a lap I guess he's just like the pie will be 12 and a half thousand features getting pied uh to
20 000 we have a scuff cosplay competition 25 000 we have radar portraits oh yeah 30 000 we
We have international cast appreciation day where we give ourself things to make you laugh
35,000 dollars. We have the Naruba which is a mixture of mocktails and
Not so nice tails
Mocktails and probably meat. Yep. Um, lots of meat and then a $40,000 Nagura
Jesse and I no way all getting crab or spider tattoos
This morning on the couch we will by the end of it all the cast is getting a tattoo together
I will say we'll give her some time because the tattoo is a permanent addition to your body
She did know it was permanent at the time within the day. She did so did you she did?
Okay, she asked me is it temporary and I said no it's permanent and she said oh, I'm interested in that as well
However, I will say things have been said on this sofa before in the heat of the moment
That don't always align with someone's views later on for example red bull and beans
Okay, I say we give her a couple of hours to lock in that decision
Yeah, before we lost a lot of them. Yeah, give us some time to mull it over. That's fair and then
By the end of the day, we will know for sure. Okay, the goer has decided that but she did say it on the catch
Susy, that's it. Apparently apparently you're gonna be doing the sassy. That's right. You certainly are
Yep, you are
Isn't that wonderful medic do the sassy? I'm sure we can get more than just the two of us
I'm just dragging me in, kicking and screaming.
Vodger and Skype for 50k.
Oh, that's that's a lot of children would be awesome.
Vodger and Skype stuff, seeing with us.
Of course, during Prague.
Yeah, during the kill while Bailey.
Hey, guys, meet the blue.
Oh, man, well, we've got some very interesting donations here.
We've got a 10 dollar donation in from Preach, apparently.
Poor whatever over my head.
I'm game.
Yep. Preach agreed.
Excellent!
Thank you very much Preach for the $10. Wonderful. Have we got the picture from Andre by the way production?
Potentially have a little look at that donation. Just to make sure that's cleared as we are clearing that.
Here's a quiz for you. Okay. We got a $10 donation in from Brutal Zen who says since we finally...
Oh, since we are finally at Mythic Raid,
Hasmedic learned his WoW ABCs, going from A to Z, can he name things in game that start
with each letter, characters, places, items or whatever, as long as it's in game and it's
in the lore.
Keep up the good work and let's go.
Now we haven't actually been told to do it.
The question is, can you?
I think I could, and I kind of want to do it after we see the picture.
I want to try it.
Let's have a little bit of that.
Thank you very much, Brutal Zem.
We might come back to that.
$25 donation from Andrew. Thank you very much.
Cat, dogs, requests for spiders. Would bees do instead?
Oh, the bees!
That's amazing.
Would be no without bees.
Yeah, bees are true.
Great pollinators make all of our fruit, or a lot of it at least.
Explanation about bees for thoughts on how to set up your own bee farm at home.
Is that a thing now?
Yeah, Natty has a command for it.
when it's not a full command she writes into the,
or they write, I don't know.
But yeah, they write into the chat saying.
So stuff about bees?
Yeah, it's a seven step guide
to how to set up your own bee farm.
Damn.
Okay.
These are very good for you.
And you can also skin them
and sell the skin on the auction house.
With bee skins?
Yeah, a lot of people who are doing the bee farm
for the mount.
People killing bees?
They're in the game.
For a mount?
Yeah.
That's not good.
Come on, Blazers, you're giving the wrong message.
But the bees were upsetting the meadery.
And as we know, alcohol over bees.
Okay, now I'm on board.
Alcohol over bees.
Oh, man.
Thank you very much for your donations,
thus far, do appreciate it.
Bees, though.
I'm always a little bit spooked about bees.
I never, like, touch a bee or like, hurt a bee
because bees are fine.
But I have once been driving in a car,
window open, moments later,
a tiny little thud on my chest
and there was a very disoriented bee on my car.
I was like, don't know what to do about this.
This is a bad situation.
You can't stop the car.
The bee is going to get lost.
You see 50 miles down the road going up knocking on bee hives.
They're like, excuse me.
Do you have some honey in there for me?
I always look after a bee, though.
If you find a little bee by itself,
give it a little bit of water.
A little bit of sugar water, really helps as well.
Sometimes honey.
Yeah, the thing with honey is, though,
at some point you reach dimension returns.
Because it's like this bee has made, at most,
a tablespoon of honey in its entire life, right?
Probably less than that.
That's probably a teaspoon. If I give it a teaspoon of honey,
negative for the world.
Wow.
In that case,
that's come from a doctor as well guys.
I'm sure that when you see a patient as well, you weigh up what their value will
be and whether or not it's worth the resources.
Oh no, that's a sad look.
I'm, yeah, I'm not going to say that's the thing you do.
Oh no.
Oh, this is the world way darker than I expected.
Firstly, like organ transplants. Secondly, especially in the NHS there's a thing called
quality adjusted life years. That may have changed since I was part of it but it's the
idea of every treatment you give, it's a little bit sad, every treatment you give you
weigh up how many quality life years someone will get out of that treatment and how much
it costs. So it's like how much did it cost per quality life year. So it's something
like a statin which helps reduce blood pressure. Great, belly cheat gives lots of people quality
your life years, put it out into the world.
Right. Something like an organ transplant in someone who doesn't have much, have long
left, even if they get the transplant, very expensive quality adjusted life years, right?
So that's fair enough.
Thanks for that.
So don't give bees honey and welcome.
Wow ABCs.
Oh yes!
There we go!
That was one of the photos, it wasn't there?
No, that was the bees.
That was the one that I dropped in.
That was the one that you were trying to get.
Yep.
So yeah, no, we're going to do the wow ABCs.
Okay.
Here we go.
A is for Aberus.
fair who wasn't a good rate make a song out of this I'm already loving this is
for bees where skins are made very honey I guess damn well go skids yeah it's the
first one see is for carrots you feed them to robots is one of the lamp light
emissions. There we go. D is for Dalaran. It exploded. Oh no, lost.
I like this. Okay, okay. E is for Evoca. Yep. You've always got one. True. F is for
Fragments a spark they become damn, okay G is for
You can do it. Yeah, I definitely can I'm just trying to think are you trying to make the rhyme out of it
Yeah, I've gone from just doing the standard quiz select a mythic edition
G is for guild where all your friends are yes
Yep
Hearthstone
It's usually a bar.
Damn!
That is, I'm very impressed.
I is for Icon, there are quite a few.
Jay is for Jailer, he's watching you.
You got five hours ago and you've been whatever, chill.
I thought you'd practice this.
I promise you, you're gonna start to see me struggle when we get to the Z.
Start one down now.
K is for Keystone, a Mythic Entry.
What's up to K?
L?
Yep, there we go, thank you.
I only agree because it was on the side of the screen.
L is for level, what was a Mythic Entry?
L is for level, you stop at 80.
Nice, very nice.
M is for Mythic, please do the raid soon.
I gotta get you more.
N is for Nostromus? Which one is it? Nostromu?
I think it's Nostromu, right?
Yeah, Nostromu.
Well, it was Mythic. Please do the rating. N is for Nostromu. He will be your doom.
Oh, it could be.
He's one of the good ones, right?
For now.
Yeah, it could be in the end. Jelly can change him.
Time is a strange thing. He's at the master of time.
Can you guys write the rest of the letters? It's just a notepad, isn't it?
Okay. O is for, hmm, Oribos, it's just an airport. True. P is for something that's
false with P. No, I'm gonna get it. P is for Prividora. Oh snap.
It's gonna rhyme that with airports. I'm a quick report
You is a four queen her name is answer egg
You are are is for
Raid leader how am I gonna run with answer?
cancer egg
Yeah, it's hard q R is for raid leader Skype just is a wreck. Oh, not great
But we're it's not one struggle amongst the whole of them yet. Yeah, that's is for
Hmm scale commander nice devs best talent nice
What's off the earth mate tea tea if you can just think of the next letter and then
Okay, I'm just sitting in just to be happily being impressed as if I'm going for it with me
No, I'll pick the next letter. That's my job.
T is for the Silken Court. I have to rhyme with talent.
That's very difficult.
T is for the Silken Court. It's not for talent. I'm rhyming with talent. Guys, come on. Keep up.
Like, come on. T is for the Silken Court.
We don't know the extent. Yes, the Silken Court. The name of the boss is the Silken Court.
Okay, does don't count. We'll find a new one after I'm a talent. Okay. T is for
Time walking. I like it a
dungeon
with
Portent
Sure, you quickly move on before you can say anything you is for
Unseeming below blood baron horror. Oh
V V is for a
What are we thinking of here? I'm sure there's a lot. I can give you one if you want. You've done so well.
No, no, I don't want to help. I'm going to get the whole thing. V is for Velkoz, a league champion.
Sure, why not? No, no, no, no, no. V, okay. Was that some lag on the stream there?
I think changing the colour on the font. Why are the W's and the A's weird now?
What's that?
Oh, it's so cursed!
Wait, what are we on? We're on V.
Which now looks like a W.
Which is also the next one.
V is for...
This is fine.
I'm sure.
Oh, V is for...
Violet.
It's kind of the color of demon hunters.
No, it's demon...
No, we can't do that.
I'm supposed to have a stretch.
for what else have we had that had these Alex straws no that's an a just gonna go
through the out dragon we're gaming I need something that was with horror now
oh god don't know how we got there so it's a forced rhyme is right it's good
enough as we go into W W is for Windwalker the monks best class X X is
for Xalatath. Don't check out that.
Class.
Oh, very good. Why is for why the flip
in my face?
What could why be for? Why is for Yogg-Saron?
One of the old gods. Yeah, I like that.
Yes, he is. And then Zed is for
That's not a tough you spell it wrong.
He's one of the old gods, Zed is for Zebra, the mount that gives nods, because you nod
when you see the Zebra mount, you're like, eh, good dash.
That's true, it's good enough.
Yeah, I think Zebra is a pretty difficult one to...
Yeah, what would you have to say?
That would be about it as well.
You've done far better than I would.
Well, there we go.
But I think that's a...
Oh man production desperately trying to keep up. I like it
I'm not going to be
So with that one is for the key by
Zed is the zebra the mount that we love I don't know from the
Jebras in the game are actually called zebras, but they do begin with a z then we have to find the distance that
I think it's like, um, it's something really, it's something really steep.
I'm sorry chat, I let you down on Zed. I hope you enjoyed the rhyming though.
To be honest, you do go for the mythic version, I'm very impressed.
If that means anything, which one is the time it does?
Well, no one else is going for the flipping mythic version, are they?
Doing normal split flood down hour right now, I know, it's, uh, hero exploits.
Uh, oh Zevra, I think it is, Z-H-E-V-R-A.
Okay, that's Zevra with bad spelling.
Zevra.
Yeah.
Zebra, but with bad spelling
Zebra as well but the Zulfurac as well
Zulfurac? Zulfurac is a old dungeon. Okay. It's like troll troll stuff going on
No, I didn't even think of that damn chats coming up with all the good ones. Yeah, the thing with chat is
There's more than two of them and one of them is I'm sure most of chat haven't got someone who's completely gone
On the other side. I would also collect to be probably played more than two months
Wow
Yeah, and I'm not great with names. I very much forget everything
I didn't even know that I still can't remember the name of the city that were in this expansion
So there we go, uh, Dornigal Dornigal. Yeah, it sounds like something from Harry Potter
Well, because it's the Isle of Dawn and then you're in Dornigal
Yeah, it's like Professor Dornigal. Yeah, and then I can't remember the name of the place in the Binging Beeps
I
City of Threads in
Aschke Hett. Aschke Hett, yeah. Hallowfall has a city as well. The best mini-game, by the way, in Hallowfall
It's a it's a daily quest. You have to play with the orphans
Oh, yeah
There's a game where you run along the fence and you have to jump along the fence in the extreme mode. There's an extreme mode
Yeah, it's a harder obstacle course and if you do it you don't have to do three games
You only have to do that one one. That's cool. Very fun. Very cool. I highly recommend playing that game
But no, thank you very much for the donation of course that um was
that sparked that.
Yeah, that triggered it all.
Yeah, and we each have got one more as well.
Oh, wow.
We have a Tendles donation in the bottom.
Can you do it in Cyrillic?
Alphabet, please, medic.
Stop it.
I want you to do it in reverse.
Zed is for Zaga Hall.
Oh, no.
Whilst walking in a straight line in touch
of your nose as well, just got to make sure.
See, here's the thing.
I know that's a test for, like, if you're inebriated.
I don't think I could do it sober.
What, close your eyes in touch of your nose?
And do it at the alphabet backwards.
Alphabet backwards now, that's happening.
I can bear it forward W. I must admit at one point when you was like cool out the alphabet ahead of me
I was like, okay, I was about to Google it
Sometimes
Tendled donation in from Anne who says banned on twitch okay fair enough so I can spam here sassy sassy
I can do my dance like a touchdown sassy sassy. Thank you very much for the 10 dollar donation. I'm sure
Very mindful
Yes, so if you are just joining us, we're doing a little bit of mythic blast farming doing a little bit of heroic as well
I think they're doing some of the
And they're trying to get a heroic split on the go. Yeah, they're doing a heroic split right now
So yes, we're gonna be slamming through those until launch time I imagine and once we're back for lunch
Yep, I also said splam rather than spam. There's a lot of things that went wrong
Splam is a mixture of splats and slam
Mm-hmm and spam which is delicious. It is. Okay. Spam on pizza. Spam on what?
I'm asking. Wow. I've thought of it. I'm initially repulsed
But I think that's the case of anything to do spam. It's not a good-looking meat. No, but it can taste real nice
Yeah, and it comes in
I think Hawaiian cooking
They do a lot of spam and pineapple and such. I think maybe it's like Fijian
There's a place where spam is a core part of like traditional cooking and it looks amazing all of the time
I'm a big fan. I can't remember exactly where it was chat will tell me. They'll say something like France or
No, they're memeing us. Yeah, can you check? I'll check chat check chat. Check chat. Check chat
I've got a check chat check chat. I've seen it in Korean cooking. So it's one person and that what if one person in chat
So that's definitely means that is entirely true. It's entirely Philippines people are saying as well as well
Yeah, Hawaii as well. Yep
I think it's a lot of places there were military bases because spam would be shipped out to the
Oh, okay. That makes sense.
Yeah, very tasty. Very good. That is gonna be, yeah, I'm not sure if I'd necessarily throw it on a pizza though.
No, I can see it working.
Like as I've got older, I want less and less on my pizza.
Yeah, and the girl and I were talking about this earlier.
Traditional pizza, you go to Rome, you can get a Bianca, which is just dough, olive oil and salt.
No tomato or anything like that.
You can get like a road red. It's I can't remember the Italian word
I think it's Rouge and with just a bit of tomato sauce on it very tasty
I'm actually would be really good although I don't tell it to Mike. Do you know he went to Roman?
He said the food was and I quote mid
well
But the thing is that it's so easy
Especially in the modern age where like things becoming a bit more
Melting potty all around the world right finally don't it's anywhere. Well, I mean, you know, right?
So easy to get bad food
True. You can go to places you think are like good food but that touristy and you don't get the actual food.
Apparently he went to places that were recommended by locals.
Well, I just don't have any taste buds.
Well, I don't want to say it, but...
Have you ever had arancini?
I might have, but I can't remember the name.
They're fried risotto balls, so it's a risotto ball.
Oh, damn.
This sounds ridiculous.
It is the best thing.
That doesn't sound very healthy.
It's not very healthy, but great.
Oh drunk snack is like it's doing a level for me
We had like poutine on here earlier, right that look like great drunk food. Yeah, 100%
Yeah, it looked fantastic. No when we say drunk food what we mean is if you've been drinking water
And you want some food?
It looks good. Yes, or copious amounts of alcohol
What did they see? Oh man, you can see Mini very interested in this blip. Fascinated.
So excited that they ran off a high speed. Yeah, Perfecto's the same. Just like chilling
next to him. So this is Aracara, a city of echoes. Perfecto and Mini having a little
chat it looks like maybe many given perfecto some decay tips perfecto maybe
what decay slamming yeah so hard well we saw we saw kush this morning no perfecto
in the few pools that we had this morning I wonder if maybe perfecto is
trying something that isn't a rogue that's unacceptable yeah won't allow it
you can see actually so many macanomes mm-hmm so many why is that because they're
really cute. They're not cute either. They're kind of terrifying. Their passive is to give
a little bit of baseline stats, whilst you're in combat, it like ramps up and then it's
there. Which is normally kind of mid, but at the beginning of an expansion, especially
an expansion where you really care about main stat, which it seems like a lot of classes
do right now, you know, the secondary stats are definitely lower in their weight in
terms of how much each point gives you DPS-wise. It seems like it's a really good
increase that just baseline having a ton of it. Next tier as we get more and more gear it'll be less
of a overall increase to your damage just because it's going to be like no like a 2% increase.
It's also it's based on level importantly. So when you get like high level lower relative item
level it's much more impactful whereas if you have a higher item level and your level
will stay the same it's less impactful. So throughout the expansion it in theory will
become worse. Yeah everyone will become trolls then. Yes it used to be that everyone that
And no point would you go Alliance. Playing Alliance in raids was kind of trolling. There
was only a few in the top 100 maybe like 5 Alliance guilds. Just because the ratios of
Horde were that much stronger. And even when it did become nerfed, there was no reason
to rush over to the Alliance. Everyone stayed Horde. It's only really now that you're
starting to see a lot of people go back over towards the Alliance and mainly there
for Dwarf and Night Elf ratio. No, they're there because it's the good side.
Mainly there for Dwarf and Night Elf ratio.
I mean, that sounds like something a dirty horde player would say.
I have got several Alliance characters.
Yep.
All dwarves and night elves.
Some of us stick to our class because it is the right choice,
rather than because of what it gives us, or our faction, I guess, you know?
No, I'm purely there just to leech off of exactly the...
Edge Lord, Edge Lord, yep.
No.
Yeah.
I will also say some of us stick to Alliance,
because I see only people who have Dragon.
No, both sides can be Dragon.
You can be a War Dragon?
Yeah.
Oh, true.
I'm a War Dragon.
Oh, interesting.
War Dragon.
Maybe I should be having the Dark Side.
It's not the Dark Side.
It seems like it.
It's simply the slightly more optimal side.
Absolutely.
How many main War Characters were there in the war then?
You could ask the same question of a lie.
I mean, so, this would have worked, I liked that with someone that knew that on Leastwall.
We have the Blood Elf lady, allurea. She's not really Horde.
She's Blood Elf, good enough. And then we have Thrall, and then the only other ally.
We have the Undead lady, Vos, whatever her name is, Lilliana Vos.
I keep saying Liliana Voss because there's a planeswalking match of the gathering called Liliana and she has a necromancer like an under.
Oh, Liliana is a void elf. I don't know.
That was very insane. Good job, man.
Yeah, there we go. We got it.
Okay, so you have two. You have Lilian and you have Troll.
Then Jaina. She's a dreadlord. Who's Horde?
Is she? Yep. I always assumed Jaina was Alliance.
That's my mistake, so you've got three.
Jane is a lion.
I'm just trolling up.
Oh man, I like...
It's a little unfair.
I know a little bit about it.
I'm so sure Jane is a lion,
but Dave told me, and they said this word dreadful,
that I don't know what that means.
Oh yeah.
You're right, well the thing is,
all of the good horde characters,
you know, they were in...
they actually know they're so good horde characters.
So I don't know man. I'm not that into this story
What's what's so good about the alliance you got you get the characters? You know better. What's so good about andwin?
There's so many cool things you got the light
He lost it and then you go back to the power of friendship
I don't know if I lose my keys, and then I find them again. No one's making a cutscene about me
Are they yeah, but did you bring tag go back to life? I?
Think I would have done everyone a favor just by leaving him and that is the horde mentality
We are trying to kick I out of him right and I was like how much honey are you gonna make it?
The witch kind of Agma
Like you show no time that stuff is broken
Yeah, you know I haven't forgiven our good friend Katka for what all the way back
this once again grayscale production but way back in um not legion wall is
adrenaline we had a quest where we need to gather four thousand nine hundred and
sixty-eight apexus crystals for it and the quest text was like yep I need exactly
that many he was taking the piss oh really he was taking the piss and we
still had to do it and I'm still won't forgive him I think that was all the
way back it sounds like a long time ago with the turtles we're trying to make it
That was a couple expanses later.
Oh really? That's like an old meme.
Yeah, this is old. This is old old memes.
Back in Maul as Adrenal.
How many was it? 4,960?
68 or something? I don't know.
It's not like I cry about that number every night.
I remember it in my dreams.
You messed up.
Yeah, I'll never forgive.
But the Horde mentality is because of that he deserves to die.
I wouldn't res him.
Ank! Old man.
He can't he doesn't have his star. Oh, well, that's any spells should prepare before you pull that's so true
Yes, you know, I'm not putting that guy here. Just pulling it zero percent. Yeah. Cabgar should get an auto hammer and sort his own stuff out
You know what I mean? I'm just
middle of a cutscene
Jack. What's that guys?
Don't pull, don't pull!
Oh, poor CatGar. I didn't even know he was dead.
Well, he kind of got sucked into the twisting nether by Zalatath and then he comes out when
you break her amulet in the final cutscene of this movie.
Oh, I did see that cutscene.
Yeah, and then he's like lying there and Illyria goes up to him and he's like,
no, not CatGar, oh no, you're my oldest friend and she's like a billion and he's
like 12. How old is Kavgar? At least four. Okay. Minimum. Minimum of four. Do you ever think about
that like life span wise? Immortality versus not immortality? Yeah, I guess so. Or like whipping
the ocean idea. Yeah, I suppose. I really get anime about that. Free Run. Have you seen Free Run?
I don't watch anime. It's not why I don't watch anime. It's just I don't really get round to
watching many of the good ones. Free Run is really enjoyable. It's about this heroic part.
It's kind of Dungeon Dungeon Dragon see where we where this hurt probably saves the world
But then the future in the future there like they all meet up and she's realizing everyone else is aging while I'm not aging and she's
Yeah, very cool
That is not true
The cat gobbin 54 that is I'm just saying that he looks old he could look he could look after himself
It's a bit more.
It's moisturized.
Moisturized.
Yeah, he's too busy.
Skink has so important as well though.
As you can tell, I do none of it.
Get a boot.
Bags, wrinkles.
I've been told that it's important.
I'm going to be the control group for this moment.
Yes, exactly.
You need to be able to compare it to something.
But yeah, I'm surprised he's only 54.
Because he does, he's an aged man.
He looks like someone that I would help across the road.
God, what someone else helped?
2800 years old!
Damn, and Cadgo is our oldest friend? That is just a bad imagine!
That's the problem though, cos immortality is immortality, right?
Yeah, but there must be other immortals around.
Yeah, but if you make the elves mad, they stay mad, that's kind of that thing.
They hold some gorges.
Damn, okay, fair enough.
Who else are you gonna become friends with?
Other elves.
Kelthosos!
Katie's kinda cool.
Yeah, Katie's kinda cool.
I'm just gonna try and put you into his phylactery.
Yeah, it was Chum Mountain, Warcraft 3, were you a Warcraft 3 enjoyer?
No.
No.
Oh!
Yeah, alright.
Yeah, I think you've just been eating all of our pexis crystals, or whatever it was.
Yeah, full.
Oh, delicious apex crystals.
Yum yum yum.
Yum yum yum.
That ageing me by 3 years every time.
That terrible for the skin.
Notable for being awful for the skin.
Great taste bad for my skin.
We desperately need to watch a Noble video instead of these Noble Mates.
No, I'm enjoying a delicious one.
Oh man.
How did Anduin's nose change? This is a big question.
I remember seeing Anduin as a child.
Yeah, that could all day.
When I was 10 playing Classic, and he was sat all the way in his dad's throne
because his dad was off doing something, a kind of variant.
There you go. I remember Anduin's dad name.
Yeah, he was also alive.
And he was dead. He's dead now.
Spoilers for Legion.
Um, super dead.
Yeah.
Legion?
Yeah, he died all the way back then.
Well, the best part about spoilers for Legion is if you want,
If you get the Dallaman Hearthstone, and you can't use it, you have to do the Legion quest line, but you can just skip it.
You can skip it. Big Skippers.
You can just click on the guy next to the exclamation mark and say, hey, Legion sucks.
There's like a... The one thing I don't like about Final Fantasy, while getting...
Did you see this route?
Oh, they're going to the left.
Yeah, I like that.
Oh! So you have to get a really annoying mob that stuns you.
That unskippable stun is now skippable. Excellent. I didn't even know that.
I'm going to start using that.
Yoink, um, one thing I'm a bit, uh, sad about with while getting a storyline is now people are giving me a bunch of crap for skipping it.
Because in Final Fantasy you're not allowed to skip. Well you are allowed to skip, but you'll be missing out on some great stuff.
I actually really enjoy it. The only thing I do skip is one of them speaks Irianje.
He speaks in, um, Shakespearean language, so sometimes it can take him quite a while to get out there and not all of it's voice acted, and I'm here to play, not to read.
What lights through yonder window breaks?
The coca-bos on the plane today.
The coca-chocobos! You're so close!
You're so close!
Damn it!
Damn it, dude!
They're coca-bos now!
That's the brown coloured ones.
They're chocolate coca-cobos.
That's true. Very good.
I like that.
I'm a big fan.
But yes, no, I couldn't care less about the story.
And I'm not sitting watching cutscenes.
War Within story is good.
And I understand you have some
Harvard resentment against War Story.
Yeah, because it hasn't been exemplary throughout the history of wow. I will say
Being willing to take a few moments to regard the masterpiece has been made for us. Yeah, masterpiece is probably a strong word
It's a very good story. It's not quite masterpiece levels yet. It's all right. It's very enjoy
It's right you describe it. I'll put it in a good category. Good out of ten. I would say seven out of ten
So not so much a couple of optional side quests. I would put in the nine range. Oh
Oh, I actually was paying somewhat attention to some of the optional quests
Like I remember there was one where you're going around like you have to like collect some reagents for some fella in Harrowfall
And then he like you go like a little teleporting teleport around with all that sort of stuff
And it's really cute and then he's like oh I cast teleport instead of portal
So just meet me back at my house and you go back and he's dead
And he's like oh no
Crap!
What's up?
What happened here?
No, well, he was actually killed by an alliance player. Yeah, there you go. Not to be trusted
Damn
Full assassination
Not sad as this mechanic I must admit I'm not a massive fan of this fight. We have to go inside of the puddles
Yeah, no
Don't know flashbacks. I can't I can't
I just got like shivers down my spine.
Understandable.
Yeah.
So now they need 1% more.
Yes.
So it's like miscount.
Yeah.
But all they might be doing it this way just so they can just quickly go kill the mob.
Yeah, I think if you take the left you need 1% so it's a kill the boss because you
have to and then go up here kill these mobs and you're done.
That's fair.
That's fair.
Have you done any Mythic Plus yet?
I need to apologize.
Have you attempted a Mythic Plus yet?
I did a plus two.
All right.
Very much still learning of Okra.
I had my raid build on.
Oh.
I didn't know what I was meant to dispel.
My tank hadn't ever tanked that M0.
We did finish it.
That's good.
We didn't time it.
Do you know what your overall time was?
Like 36 minutes.
That's not so bad.
Yeah.
What was the time for the dungeon?
It was 32 or 30.
Okay.
What dungeon was it?
Dornbreaker.
Oh, okay.
Fair enough.
That's not so bad.
I mean it wasn't for...
For like a brand new tank going in in terms of not knowing where to go and you as a healer not knowing what's going on
It is quite overwhelming healing
Yeah, like a lot of people would probably agree if they've done a lot of mythic plus even tanking or healing can be some of the most
Overwhelming and difficult parts of mythic plus as you're getting into it
DPS just and this is someone who DPS is all the time DPS is just kind of there
That's a slap-face and sometimes kick
It was also the dispels would come off just before we mounted and on the first boss
she does these, I can't remember what they're called, it shows a little dagger on the unit frames.
Right.
And it's a dot over the next 10 seconds or so.
Oh right.
She would put it out, people would have the dispels on, they'd all mount up,
and I wouldn't be able to dispel everyone in time.
Of course.
So then they'd die while flying around, and then they'd be like,
how are we dying in the air?
I was like, well I can't really dispel you all in time, can I?
Because you're just dead.
I guess, I guess you just want to sit on the platform, because you can,
like that cast takes like a week, right?
Yeah.
That's what she explains.
That's what she explains.
And you can be in the darkness, I think, for a little bit.
I think you can chill in there for a little while, yeah.
But at least towards the very edge of the ship whilst it's expanding.
Yeah, but it's also like, if I dispelled as the debuffs had come up, it would have been fine.
But I was focusing on, you know, my notation and everything.
So it's definitely on me.
It was a learning process.
One of the DPS got a bit mad, but then was kind of the end when we finished.
So it's one of those, you shouldn't learn in M plus.
And I was like, well, it's not really anywhere else for me to learn.
M zero doesn't have all of these mechanics, right?
So, MZero should in theory have the mechanics, but they won't necessarily be dangerous enough.
Yeah, exactly.
The other mechanic that I forgot existed in MZero is that you have to kill a certain amount
of adds.
Yes.
So we killed the second boss, the big tall...
Yeah, the one within the little city that you're clearing out the little town.
So we doubled the three mini bosses, then we did that one, and then the rest of my
group stayed at the bottom to kill stuff.
Yes.
I flew up to the Dawnbreaker because that's what you do in MZero.
That is indeed.
I died on the way to the dawn breaker.
What?
There was like an enveloping darkness, you know how sometimes if you fly in the room,
I died, respawn on the dawn breaker, and you can't mount up again,
because that's where the next boss is.
So it counts you as in the boss fight.
Oh, mate, this is a disaster.
I was like, hey guys, I'm really sorry.
I did what I would do in MZero, and they're like,
well, we just have to fight the boss now and then get adds afterwards.
It sounds like you're a right menace, dude.
I'm not gonna lie.
Exactly.
And it's like none of it was intentional, obviously.
I had my raid build, I didn't, I wasn't optimised, I didn't play it well, I apologised to them
afterwards like, hey, sorry my bad, I'm still learning and they were good about it in the
end.
I think most of the time if you communicate with the rest of your team, just like, yo,
might be a little bit rough, apologies.
Some people will still be pretty shitty about it, but I think like, especially as people
get older playing this game, people have a bit more patience.
If you said that like 10 years ago, most groups would be just like, ah, you know.
Yeah, exactly.
I think there's still situations where there definitely will happen, but I'd say it's more likely people will be like, ah, fair enough, you know, we're all new once, we're all learning bits and pieces.
It's also why I try and usually do at least my first rotation of Mythics with Mythic Pluses with my guild.
Yes, because I'm like, they know who I am, they know how good I am, they can work around me, and a few of them would be like, ah, we prefer to do higher levels.
I was like, I prefer to, you know, M2 to M4.
Oh, should get in it?
That's fair.
Four plus or whatever.
Did you say plus four?
Plus two?
Plus four, yeah.
It's it's a strange it's like retesting at the end where it's got that's got nothing to do with it anymore
Doesn't exist at a while in league when I first started casting there's a player called visit chachi
And everyone called him chachi for short. Oh, but for some reason on my first cast
I came in and just called him busy
And so
My bad my bad lesson learned. Yeah happens all the time though. It does happen all the time
Like I like as a group of casters we still don't agree to any sort of terminology or fights either.
Like well like as an example on Brute Twister what are we calling the things that the boss eats?
Canisans.
I decided because Nogura said canisans today and I was like that's the best word for it.
That is the technical term as well.
Frank is also there because Jordan named it Frank.
I think you can look Frank.
Yeah I was like what do you want to call these things that the black bloods in and she said Frank.
I was like okay Frank it is I guess.
I was there's some mechanics in this instance where the boss goes mad when no one's in range of them
So this boss is an example. They were like stop throwing themselves around a bunch of a a we damage same with the bloodbound horror
Also, one of those fights and I didn't know if there was an actual technical name for that mechanic, you know
range in mage
I was calling them a tantrum tantrums nice
Yeah, because like if the boss is like tantrum in because I can't reach a friend of mine
Said that they should just be called bernard
So that's a bernard mechanic now. Okay
Do we know someone called Bernard who gets angry when there's no one nearby?
No. I just really like Bernard.
I like Tantrum. I also like Bernard, it's a good name.
It's nothing wrong with Bernard.
It's just not relevant to the current situation, Alex.
Probably isn't.
I need to focus up on the wow game.
Oh mate, I wish I could.
Oh no, we can't go!
We are back in with Rationan getting destroyed.
But still not sure what sort of creature ration and is I think they are a
ascended ascended in a rubion
Not doing too well because I tried to look up when I was doing my research
I remember thinking I should look up. What are the nerubians have been fought by?
Oh, sure. Didn't do it. Oh, well, I can be a little round out
So there is a spider wing in Naxx Rammus
Um, they there are mobs that look like these sort of scarab style mobs. I don't assume that the nerubians
I don't actually know for sure, but if you want the nerubian esk
Nerubian adjacent is what we call them
Yes, then next round has had some of those we also had some of these large scarab like creatures
I don't think we have them in a cube maybe we did let's move on beyond that sure
Don't want to talk about classic
Rafa the Lich King
The last boss in trial of the grant or trial the crusader generally which was like a tournament base raid really interesting
No trash all fire all all the time
One of the fights was you're fighting it like if you're a horde you would fight against an alliance PvP team
So it'll be like well NPCs, but they're like a like a bit of a known wall
Yeah, and all this sort of stuff
Really, really cool and then halfway through the right at the very end of this tournament
that you're having to celebrate whatever's going on, but the floor breaks and then you
find a big Nerubian down there and you fight him.
Nice.
So, very cool.
And if you did the whole thing without anyone dying, you basically got an awesome achievement
for it.
Like, oh, Grats, you did the entire thing with no one dying at any point.
Good job.
Yeah, that was first done in Naturalis, an undying achievement for that, so let me
know.
Pretty cool.
It's a play of skill that gets you on a cube, right?
Yes, for sure. Like, um, they don't really do undying anymore.
Um, which I think is a fun feat of strength, gives you a little title.
They don't need to like do a mount or anything for it.
No, just give it a title.
I wonder if it's because, like, they're worried that it will like lead to toxicity,
like as if you do a raid and then someone dies and you're just like,
Oh, god damn it.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Nah, but like, I think unless you've titled it as we are doing an undying raid,
please be in discord with us so we can be undying.
like that. I feel like an undying challenge is exactly that. You should be in a group deliberately
planning to do it. It's going to be hard, you know it's going to be hard, so that shouldn't be toxic.
I think it'll be a fun thing for them to reintroduce to each raid series, why not?
But then again, I'm sure they'll release a raid that occasionally it's super likely that one guy
just dies and you just resum and that's just like a part of like the way the boss works.
And that will be a sad thing to do. So no, we've been fighting the Rubians
sort of for out time and space they did try and get rid of that general like you
talked about cheap death mechanics in such a possible one person would soak a
bunch of stuff then oh yeah I and then you just read them I thought you said
they were trying to move away from that they generally have yeah there was a
whole point funny enough back at Legion as well where it was getting
really really out of hand like at the last few bosses in the tombstone
chaos was the name of the raid and then one of the very very difficult
was fallen avatar was the ultimate boss it was awesome great great fight in so many different ways but what happened on a
Timer there would be these pools four pools you needed to soak as a group that did split damage
The idea is that you'd split up into four groups of five
there was so much other things going on at the time and
Groups very quickly realized that rogues could serve it
So they just got four rogues in and it was the rogues job that just soaked them every single time DK's could do the exact same thing
So and tumors are guys had lots of those soak mechanics that you could just have a rogue solo
So I've got a called a tomb of soak garrus
Yeah
And then they were just like we're gonna stop this after that we're like next year
None of that but not have it anymore of your guys cheesing. Last two bosses full of immune cheese
But since then in all fairness it's been very good
They're generally speaking they don't expect you to have a full immune comp now
there's other criteria that you're gonna have in the raids I suppose. I don't
think there are 15 people in the trade I think just perfect those raid freight are
kind of trash. Oh that is a machine, a little toy that each time you run over it
will change you into a different race and gender combination so you can just
keep cycling until you find something you like. It's only you do while you wait.
No no no it's just purely cosmetic. Maybe.
But their character model changes with the size the site like the hip-hop. It does in a way
Yeah, anyways
Well, it's a small one rules have bosses where the the boss broke if you brought classes that were too big
There we are smallest one. You know we're cycling full Mulligan
One thing that I frequently do in my groups is that you run over it until the boss is pulled
Or like until the key starts you just keep going and then whatever you're left with at the end
is what you get at the end. I mean that's probably what he's doing here right. Yep there we go.
What's he gone for? Is that panda? That's like a little panda girl. I can't really see because you can't see the front of the bed.
Look how small that guy's head is. That was a very small headed man. That's a panda. I love pandas.
Yeah. Very very good. I played panda a hundred for the longest time. I don't see any pandas around. I know. It's a sad time.
Everyone's forgotten pandas. Yeah. Maybe for the best. It's a strange addition to the game. A panda monk though.
seems fitting it does it's the expansion the monks were introduced yeah mr. Pondari
very very frightening um just a little bit just a tiny bit frightening um so yes if you are just
joining us we're doing lots of little bits and pieces to pick up as much gear as possible as you
can see liquid working crazy hard on um brute twists the last night they're getting our whole
80 pools, well, so just shy of 80 pools on that boss. At 620 item level, basically, and
even they're struggling with the output.
Yeah. They were saving lots of food at phase three, though.
Yes. There's by no means are they fully optimized. Like, they were trying lots of different routes,
and routes, and they were trying lots of different compositions. So, you know, a whole load of
things. Like, it's not like the boss is unkillable right now. There's still lots of work to be
be done and it just seems like a tough fight as well very very fragile if one
thing goes wrong one ad is unkicked one egg is unbroken all goes out it seems like
the big thing that we've noticed on looking at walk-off logs for liquid is
the tank bus oh yes they it hits the tank and then for the unmitigated damage
explodes after a little bit of time depending on how low the tanks help
this exactly yeah so you want to get the tank really very top-down yard full
Like big personals as well. I think that was one reason that they went for
Three tanks in the end. Yeah, because you could just have the two tanks just doing the boss stuff and that third tank constantly dealing with
The little spiders going a little bit colossal spiders. I'll have no Alex. It's true. It's even in the name
They are colossal spiders for some colossal eggs
E.A. Sports. But yes, I think we've just been told though the lunch time is here and I think
that also means that you are going to be leaving me here by myself for four hours.
Yep Jordan's not coming. I'm sorry. That is true because it's Mike. Mike isn't coming. I'm sorry.
Well it's been wonderful to pass with you. It's been a lot of fun. Yes.
It's the last five hours or so. I'll be back tomorrow obviously. Hopefully we see some mythic
We will! And if you find yourself in a position where you're desperate for some mythic pools you're always welcome back.
Well I appreciate that. I do have to write some notes in League of Legends.
That is very fair.
Definitely not the same. The world's coming out to me.
Yeah well I'll let you prepare.
We're gonna go and have some lunch.
Do be back after the break though because we're gonna have some mythic pools I'm sure of it.
Maybe, maybe more. We'll find out soon. Okay bye!
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It's like, get away from the camp,
away from the camp, you're inside the camp.
Here we live, thank God.
dashes again if you have a red line go out go away don't aim it to the camp aim it to the right
left just look through the camp guys and stay with these d-watchers as well don't be in the booth
we dodged all these orbs now and be like in the middle here you're sitting in the middle
just one against the two dashes again red line goes up red line out
that dragged a little bit to our back so against it guys
that ship got a five
i don't know if it's smaller
i set a three last time
i think it was zildor
i want my phase two again
remember
what you have
that's what i've passed you
i'm not supposed to be ready for you but please check out the damage increase
um other than that it's better off with sockets
yeah behind the webs can you guys do it i don't want to do it
We got Waxian, Waxian Canyx I guess, the one, or is Canyx Terran?
I don't know.
Waxian Shor, the tank, you know it's strong.
We all sw- yeah, Sorted with Swag, yeah, that's good.
Sorted with Swag, and Waxian Shor, the reps.
And yeah, we're gonna try to get the boss in last phase as well if you need to.
But other than that, I'm gonna, yep, during the pull.
You're just being a zombie, I'm mad man.
Alright.
What's the message?
What's the message?
Well I got a message, you've got a... how did that happen?
It's fine guys, can you keep the boss?
I'm going to do the best I can.
Watch the frontier coming in.
Pain in the fucking head.
For the race to world first, lunch has been eaten and Mires has been serenaded
by the crew for his lovely birthday, which was ruined by medic.
Unfortunately the surprise was destroyed.
My name's Preach and I am joined by the wonderful Finnish dragon himself, Mr. Frago. How you doing man? That's me
What are you thinking? We have now got a race
Yeah, I mean we got the middle quick start at I
Think Brute twister seems to be a bit of a more difficult challenge than anticipated
But we'll see how it goes today. We get my time today. Yeah, I think it our predictions
We had Brute twister on about 40 poles, you know a little bit of coordination
a little bit of difficulty and then she's a big girthy girl.
But you're gonna be, what are you gonna be doing that?
Because you've been playing this like weird role of like a support.
You've been arg, healer, dev.
Where are you gonna sit into this composition you think?
Yeah, we'll see.
I probably currently thinking will do augmentation with the scale commander.
I think that's what our friends overseas did as well.
Yeah, Flameshipper stuff, I did the fifth healer role.
I was kind of the plan, but now Mastin is also doing it.
I think we are all kind of capable to do it. So we're kind of, you know, flexing around. We play in the station, play all, play, play a reservation, we're in it.
Are you happy with the, I want to know about the Heroic Week.
Yeah.
So the Bribeck, they're not going to do it again, but it has meant that we've got in Semitic on day one, which hasn't happened in an eternity.
Did that feel better, or would you have preferred not a Heroic Week, a few days of more concentrated splits and then in Semitic?
Well, I think the more, well, not really relaxed spirit of heroin, we get kind of nice, but
of course we are currently doing 16 characters because, you know, the
preparation is evolving all the time. So, you know, you have heroin week, you have extra time.
So why not do 16 characters for fun?
Was that the requirement? We were trying to work it out, because we mean mirrors had like
14 tanks. I think mirrors has like 18, except 20 or something characters, because we had some,
you know, we had now coming in instead of Andy.
Yeah, so he had to switch them classes. So I think he looked like 20 at least and it took a lot of characters
There was a reaction when the message came through or did we you part of the conversation of like, okay?
Look guys, it's gonna be like 16 characters. There was some talks with the guild. I mean, you know
Some people pushed back against it a little bit more some didn't it's fine
I do what I'm you know told to well your old school your super old school
I sleep on remember Paragon and I've been the world first seen now for as long as some of these
old heads here so I'm still enjoying it to this day every time I see you play
you're still like this is cool I love it so much what keeps you going yeah for
sure I mean I just enjoy riding a lot unfortunately there's like a lot of this
you know extractive you have to do the splits then plus everything else like
when you get to the mid-grading that's where I drive you know that's what I
enjoy and that's why I keep doing it I've used susceptible do you think to
the Roger treatment where they're gonna start poking and probably like fraggle
Maybe now it's time you helped out and became maybe a potter or something like that.
Are you going to hold fast and not crack like Roger did, like a weakling?
Yeah, there has been some talks about it but I've been quite adamant about staying as a player
because that's what I enjoy doing.
Not sure, I mean maybe I'll go out and roll at some point but I'm not sure if I would enjoy it.
Maybe you could join us on the cast of Couch at some point and throw in some input.
I mean, if needed, you know, I benched, of course, I can help you guys out.
Oh, for sure. Yeah, that would be great.
We've had a little look at Nexus Princess.
She's a healthy girl. She's a healthy girl.
A lot of people are crunching a lot of numbers now, not just here, but over in the US.
Are you surprised by how seemingly difficult boss 5 and 6 are for their position in the raid?
I mean, I think we expected Nexus Princess to be kind of the patchwork, kind of a world boss,
like a really tight DPS check because there's not much else going on, you run out a little
bit and then you do a single-leg DPS.
So we were expecting it to be tuned quite tightly.
Of course, it's always a bit of a coin toss, if it's right or not.
I think lately they've been quite good with the tuning and seem to be kind of on
point right now for what we are able to achieve year-wise.
But I mean, we always figure it out and get the DPS needed.
always find damage from somewhere every single time and you're probably going to be contributing
to that so we do have to let Fragout go though because before we even started I said dude
I need to get into Mythic Plus right now which is what you're doing because we're hoping to
see Mythic very shortly so we're going to let Fragout go we're going to throw back
to the handsome the beautiful the the wonderful Alex over on the couch thanks Fragout thank
Thank you.
Um, it's a delicious cake, welcome back to the stream, get out of it, go, go, um, um,
welcome back to the stream.
Um, yes, no, we, uh, you heard it from Fragger himself, there's a whole lot of specs going
into this, uh, Brutus, a fight, a fight that seems to be surprising them as to how
difficult it is.
The cake is really good.
Everyone, actually, whilst I'm here by myself, I think it'll be a lovely thing.
I didn't ask us to do this, I have no idea what the hell just happened over there.
Go and wish Mara's a happy birthday on Twitter.
Go do it now, because the cake is from him.
We may have been consuming some cake there.
It was delish Mike.
I've got to say, I do not appreciate being stalked behind the door.
You jumped scared? I heard some noise.
By little and large, Medic was behind the door and Jordan.
So like, Medic is in your face and then suddenly...
We're just enjoying some of Mara's birthday cake.
Oh, I would love it if you would eat that cake.
I already was. In my presence. Would you like me to? I would love it. Just let me have a little bite.
Oh yeah. Take that. Delicious. Would you like a little bit? No you're not feeding me. People
keep feeding me. No. I'm not being compared. Oh here she is. Gremlin attack. Coming in. Coming now.
I'm not eating the cake. No, I feed you. I don't like the unirrit. Okay sure.
It's just a delicious little turd right in my mouth, there it is, nutty and beautiful.
Thanks Mike.
That's okay, that's for you.
Looks a bit hard.
That's really nice.
Yeah, sure it is.
I've not had any cake.
I've been a good...
No!
Oh no.
Like how slowly raised in volume.
Yeah.
Good news though, talking to the players, even if they want to max out their vaults
and stuff, they're kind of nearly done with it, plus they've done plenty of them.
There isn't anything really else to do so we're probably going to be seeing some broody twisty action coming up in the next little while here
I know for I go out to run after you got one more to do
But a lot of them have one shot their mythic plus trinket that they were looking for. Oh, that's good. Yeah
Hopefully in particular is full done
He was bragging about it. It's like yeah, he got his stuff under
Optimizers, yeah from
We need any robots or whatnot getting your Sims done knowing what you want from all the different right
um, mythic blast so just be able to cross all of those up your list go and don't need to get back in there now
for the rest of the week unless i want to get crazy vault stuff later
Yeah, i believe him and gingy are identical in item level. Oh damn. They are literally identical
So they're looking at that and obviously there's a couple of runs going because we're likely to need some more dks
I don't know whether they're going triple dk because we know
lurking in the shadows
As he tends to do narko dk is ready to rock and roll
Perfect. Oh, maybe swapping on its dk as well. So he could be seeing some
Everyone's on DK, turns out.
I chose the right class to sing.
Yes.
Well, for this particular boss, doing very, very strong.
We'll see exactly how it all plays out later.
Yeah, no, it's nice to see, because I know there was a point
in the week when Mini was like,
I'm not sure if I'm playing anything this time around.
So it looks like...
Yeah, it's weird, right?
How things change when you actually start seeing
all of the pieces fall together.
I think everyone's making it up as they go along with them.
I mean, that is the big truth.
World First Rating is like,
they can go in with all the plans they want,
and the boss goes,
But what about this? What about if you need a consistent 4 million cleave over the space of 8 minutes? Well, who's doing that?
It's not the moonkins
Well, I don't know actually it depends on what um tanks they want to bring
Because if they maybe want to be bringing a blood decay as well on top of this
I don't know if they got a geared windwalker
We might be seeing a little bit of canyx seeing how that plays out as well
There might be some experimentation going on when we actually get a comp together
I do believe right now that we have
We've jumped to Canex's pub if you don't mind right quick. Looks like they killed the
Yeah, they they so they killed the silkencourt
Mm-hmm. I'm not sure if they're going to be looking to do one more run of Anserec
Mayhaps to get a character that maybe depends what perfecto needs. There's a whole run is just for perfecto
So if they got what he needed it was from silkencourt, then they're good
And they don't need to go and do that because it's not like he hasn't got all his tier and stuff already for sure
That is fully done and dusted
Wolf Disco obviously warrior. Oh
We're gonna see that are we just gonna see both saw some shreds
We might also see him on his walk which he did play on the first few bosses anyway
What looks are so good for that fight not everyone needs to be an ad killing powerhouse
Some people which were best they can just kind of slam them the more they can offload onto just a few players doing ads
I mean we saw what wall life was doing yesterday on that ration on it is just ridiculous
They just left it to him
He did 80% of the damage to all those ads of course the parasites in this one though a lot healthier and a lot more dangerous
So they will want some coverage there, but you're absolutely right. This is going to be a battle
I would really like to see on the I mean just for curiosity sake
He is a very different set of what liquid's been doing
It's like we think we're gonna go this way like playing into the strengths of what echo believes they've got but we'll see
They had a little luck this morning with the for evoker setup brago saying he's probably going to be going arg
That's likely where he's going to be going on this one prayers or dev
He says all right, it's gonna be all over the place though
Yeah, Scripe's been working on it. I saw Scripe at lunch just sat back like,
I'm still thinking. I think Scripe as always, he wants choices. That's been the case of Scripe
since I've known him. He wants choices. If he suddenly says, let's try three DKS they want
them in there. Will we use a vengeance tank as a third tank? Will they go three tank?
Lots of choices on this fight. This will even start in the same way. Like there's pros and
cons to where you're going to start depending on which strategy you're going with.
There's tons of different things to do on this fight. I'm surprised at how varied it is.
The more I look into it, the deeper it goes, it's like a rabbit hole of complexity
When you first look at the boss, it's like, just break the eggs and kill the adds
That's it, yeah
Don't be bad
Let's pull the boss
And you wonder why we didn't get world first in the arse's leadership
Just kill the man
Just have we decided maybe to not be bad at the game
Question mark
I mean, there's ads, are you even?
What do you expect?
What do you want from it?
I want to play the game for you
But yeah, they've got like not only which quadrant, or not quadrant, the third of the room that they're going to be working in, which area they're going to be starting in, but also when they're doing that exactly what ad route they're going to be doing within it.
There's lots of different areas running on the strength of the classes, maybe you want to basically align, spawning the worst of the ads of that sector at the same time that you have the majority of your cooldowns.
So you can either save cooldowns for that or you could just keep sending on send and hopefully have what the bad
Overlaps line up with the overlaps of your seed. It's a spreadsheet fight
It is that's why I thought it would be a fight that's kind of soft before we got there turns out wrong
Longly way way harder than they expected. Yeah way way harder like as Fagal pointed out there
It's like they suspected Nexus princess was going to be the sludge fist smolder on
wall, DPS check, target dummy, because there's not much happening mechanically. That's a problem
for the guys. Yeah. She just has all the health that ever existed in the universe. And that's
going to be the challenge to push DPS. I'm really expecting a Rhygiel on 2.0 there. That's
what I'm thinking we're going to see. I think we might...
What you think going to be right in the middle of the room? Barely any space available
for us?
It's about to fill with the purple because we know she's got a hard and rage and
It'll be like can you squeeze?
Yes, of course.
That last couple of percent out to take her over the finish line.
Because this various thoughts flying around.
She's got too much health.
They're going to change it.
Nobody's pulled it yet.
Not properly.
Blizzard's been pretty good actually in the recent race to the world first of
getting it kind of possible.
And the tuning has generally been decent.
Mm-hmm.
Um, uh, the last tier that was, excuse me.
Yeah, we have all these good adjustments always yeah, so like I think what was it on for act?
We had like maybe only a few changes five percent boss health. Yeah, like four or five percent boss health nerf
There's some of the ads were nerfed as well, but it wasn't like it was on razz again
Was like 50% lol, you know like what we didn't realize you weren't a 40 man team are bad
So it was it wasn't as egregious as that
So yeah fingers crossed the rest of like I really just want them to
to get to the point where it's just like, we're kind of as big as we're getting, there's
nothing else to do but Mythic Raid, but it does take a little while for us to get to
that point. Normally it takes us several, several days, but with the fact that the Raiders
are, you know, have had that Herok week, certainly cut down on the amount of splits
that they think are necessary in order to get into the raid, but we should be seeing
it very soon. I can imagine once the players are all back from their lunch break during
lunch. Some of the players still playing on through doing their finishing off their
Herok run. So people like Perfecto and Mini right now downstairs getting some
food in and I imagine once they're back. Yeah, I mean going down is a strong
term. It would definitely die. The players will 100% be going down but why
really? I think hopefully what we're gonna see this afternoon is actually a
lot of switching up. They need to learn this. This has been the point that's
been stressed all the way through here is they absolutely need to learn the
fight so that gear is not going to squash this beast so there is something
that I did want to bring up of course the chat has been demolishing the donation
goals that we've been having up to this point okay as you can see already
race past the five thousand oh my god yeah we already had operation medic which
you enhanced with more beans well apparently I was the one having
surgery performed on me and we all know how to make Mike feel better put
beans in his chest cavity. But of course with that, there was a extra goal not listed at $4,000.
This goal, Jesse brought forward. Well, I, well, we all...
I'm not going to talk to you.
It wasn't necessarily Jesse who said it was going about $4,000. Jesse said that he would make,
would allow Jordan to do some makeup, doing a makeover for Jesse in the style of Zalatath,
I think it is. So if we switch over to the Maxwell analysis desk, we have got Jordan and
Jesse right here ready to do some wonderful, wonderful makeovers.
Hello.
Hello.
I can see over this desk.
You can.
We're going to do this, sir.
We had a few ideas of, well, chat suggested clown jeith.
Okay.
Very original.
I like that. I vote.
You're next.
Nice to stop.
next stop I suggested zalogy we also had medic suggest kiss G so we have a big
star on his face you suggested emoji yeah I think I suck at make up the pure
desperation of please help me I mean I've been at the mercy of your makeup
skills before. Oh yes, we contoured your chin. You gave me a 5D chin along with the mischievous
lazy and then used me for like makeup tips. You're like, well how did you do that? Let's
try it out here. I became a pallet. Ah, you're a canvas. Yeah, it took about 45 minutes.
Well, Jesse, how are you feeling about all of this? You might need to swap the headset
over just to maybe get some final thoughts before you're made beautiful what
what are we thinking are you excited I'm a little nervous I've never worn make it
before it's really relaxing like it's nice yeah it's annoyingly comforting I
wore stockings I'm a little scared of me yeah but they're quite nice eyelid stuff
oh that can be a little bit spooky first I'm having some eyeliner put in but
have faith in Jordan's an expert yeah I trust that's gonna be good well
Best of luck. I like the idea of occasionally just jumping back to you. Yeah, we're seeing here
Whenever you're bored over there, you can flash over and take a look at my face
Halfway through Bruce twister poles, and we just turn
Yo, she's got a nice palette. Oh, wow
Okay, she's dropped it it's shattered its shambles well, I think she's disappeared below the desk yet again
I think it makes sense for probably John to have the headset so that she has full access to your face
Minus beard minus beard
Well it's fine the girl wanted to oh my god
I told you we come for that
Wow, that's a real but you could fall into it but chinion
I can I can start to see the individual pixels now
Surely we're supposed to be I mean I get
Okay, I'm killing the boss and it's at 4%
Look at that, the brood twist is spawning the last Parasax
Oh, Jordan would you like to run us through these first tentative steps while I'm waiting for the raid to get themselves back together?
Yeah absolutely, so I concocted this in my basement
It consists of some pain and various other chemicals
The absolute fear in Jesse's eyes
No, so this is just a bit of foundation. We are setting the base.
I'm just trying to sell like I don't know what I'm talking about.
I like it. Is it like painting up? This is like a primer then?
Um...
When I paint the wall.
Yes.
There we go.
I mean...
We pretend that Jesse is the one.
I know you manned it up there.
We could also...
It's like we're plastering.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gonna put the dry wall up and stuff the wall.
I'm trying to... um...
This is like doing the normal mode splits before going into heroic.
So that's that what we're saying.
This is the important foundation.
This is the splits.
This is Delves.
Oh!
Yeah, I cannot watch it. This might be a bit orange on Jesse just because I am from Essex
So just a bit of a disclaimer. Okay. We're halfway through from here
It looks fine because he's got like this sort of profile thing going on. We just quickly stop and have Jesse look down the camera
Beautiful
This is a horror movie now, yeah, no the camera moving. Oh, there we go
you're gonna look fantastic and we do expect of course geith once this is complete a full
max roll analysis of this full process if you would so we get the logs on the makeup and what
kind of pass are we looking at that's what i want to know is where is jordan standing
in the rankings of the makeup artist i thought you meant like height i'm not always mocking your
high. It's a tall stool. Of course, all of this made possible there by your very generous donations.
Just gave me for love. Really do appreciate all of those all of the support. That's why we got so
many fun things coming up and all going towards an amazing cause where we're helping children out
in hospital allowing kids to be kids got whose cast is it anyway. I'll see rumble coming up
Which is going to be nightmarish scuffed cosplay raider portraits. I've been practicing going to art school
We've got international castle appreciation day where we might be exchanging a few gifts here and there
the Nerubar which is going to be medics
concoction based
Particular it's just gonna be just gonna fill it with beans gonna be beans and
Mocktails and it's been fantastic and then crab and spider tattoos
If we get that far, as I say, all going towards an amazing cause, do get your donations in and
we will read them as and when we can, one of which indeed has arrived as of five minutes
ago from Doug.
Dougie.
Doug Rattman.
All right.
Who says the cake is a lie.
Actually, nothing to do with rats, instead, a portal reference as the man in the walls
is there.
Rattman.
So there we go.
Thank you very much for the five dollar donation.
The cake is not a lie because indeed I do have it here.
Mike feel free to talk about what's going on in this mythic place. Yeah enjoy your cake
Al I don't mind that at all you see that I hear is coming towards the end of his coming
over flick through everybody's are they still all in mythic plus I would really appreciate
that I can see Jinji over here is definitely I'm getting necrotic wake on the go this is
actually one of my favorite dungeons I love the stone ball I think it's got such a cool
vibe it's got this like Blackrock foundry vibe to it you know you're right yeah it's
I mean I feel that the two bosses like hands and friends you know that kind of feel with the duo
I know it's not the same mechanically, but I love the just lugging the block across and doing all this
It is very flag-proof foundry now that you mention it
Which is one of my favourite, I love that raid team besides the
Train and the you didn't like Thoga. I hate Thoga. Ah, oh because I put out this before yeah
We've talked about this one of your favorite styles
many many fights between me and Mike as to how you can ever enjoy blast furnace and hate operators
over my favorite bosses of all time blast furnace was terrible nope it was super trash
yeah incorrect so it must be nice to be shitter living in blissful ignorance blissful ignorance
indeed that's the war because you like hell yeah i like i think it's probably helped by the
We did well rank-wise on that fight and I got to play Hunter on that fight, which was sidewinder
It was built for sidewinders though. Oh, right down the line. Yeah, that's nice. So good. It felt really really powerful
Did you have ricochet?
Did ricochet work down the line? Yes
I think so. I think so. It worked with marked targets, right?
Basically those adds down the middle, if you had a few hunters, all of them would just disengage into where the
Breathjust was to get all the adds in a line
Sidewinders all the way down there and do a ton of damage. Very, very fine.
Ignite all over them bad boys. Oh the foundation. Oh, if we can have a quick check in mid pool
Over the macro analysis desk. Oh, wow. You're so one note now, but this is the foundation
Yeah, you're like a canvas now a cleansed canvas. They haven't hung the display yet
You'd normally move your face, but you can't at the moment. I'm translating for
So, uh, uh, yeah, we won't be able to hear you too much, but we can always translate
what Jesse says, which is very dangerous actually, because we can make him say anything that
we want.
Don't worry, we'll do a good job.
We'll do you right, Jesse.
We'll do you proud.
Yes, so we've got Johnny, we are looking to the end of Mythic Plus now.
The guys have got, they've been really lucky with Loots.
Not sure whether Ice Level will land.
They're not even in the top five anymore.
Trash Guild, as expected.
True.
Liquid doing very well surprisingly well item otherwise 619.7, but we don't know what they've sent we haven't
Obviously we've been here
So we've not be watching what they've sent we know echo still has a lot of goods in the tank to send and increase their characters even more
621 on this particular character. I don't think it's actually in their guild. Oh
Who is it? Don't know someone from Sylvanas some guy some guy
Some guy I think that's there with the team got amazing gear.
Who else is looking to recruit this dude?
What he's assessing.
That's good to say.
It was this...
Tyker?
Yeah.
You want to join? Just saying.
Yeah. Do you know how to kill worms?
Can you do more damage than Jinji?
Can you press counterspell?
Because that's going to be important.
It's going to be very important.
Very important indeed.
But he is lower on the damage on the overall there than Jinji.
You know, well slacking.
It's his key.
Or maybe he's trolling playing Frost.
Ooh.
Classic Jordan Mimiro.
That's gonna say that.
That sounds like a classic Jordan Mimiro.
Yeah, I cannot believe Mists have turned their sides back.
I hate this.
What's wrong with the dungeon?
Cause I didn't really do a whole lot of it
because Shadowlands, could you back it up?
Yeah, true.
I did a lot of it.
It was always nice.
It's one of those dungeons out where it's really good
when you've got one guy who is really in Semitic Plus
and just does it all for you.
Oh, that was amazing, everything.
Oh, so good.
And they know how, like,
Crusher would be a great example.
knows how to like mark the ferry in a certain way so you can see the whole path before you even start it
it's like you go left left left right oh and then you're done and then you don't have to think about
it at all but then you forget so you've got to go check things i'll use an add-on there used to be
a week or a five there is a week or that apparently is accurate after the second one so you've got to
work out the first two and then from there it's the rest of it apparently um but it honestly i
think as long as one person in your group is happy to have a little run around and work out
what is it it's healer job what is the actual thing that you're doing though am i right
saying that you'll try to work out the one the one that stands out it doesn't
it doesn't stand out either it's it's what's the odd one out one out that's
why I meant yeah it's two shapes and they can either be fully colored in or an
outline or they have a ring or they don't have a ring right okay so three of
them have a ring and one doesn't that's the one out correct that's what you're
looking for and then it doesn't during the boss fight as well so you go but
it's much easier in the boss fight for some I think it's just because in the
boss fight you can actually see them all you see the water once yeah you
unless people stand next to the pillars in this term of time, you can't see.
And it's only the people that stand next to it, can they can see it or?
No, it'll pop up for everybody.
Oh, okay.
I mean, the idea that Blizzard wanted is that you would all spread out and stand near a pillar,
then you would see them all and everybody could figure it out together.
But of course, in Mythic Plus, there's no time for that.
Just the healer does that.
Yeah, as when you're healing generally.
I did it on my Hunter because we could DPS on the move, no problem.
Yep.
So you just go to one, two, three, four, and they're like, okay, it's this one.
And figure out where to go.
It's one of those things, but this trash gets real nasty and high it is just looking over a Jesse just full mannequin
Just the way they just stood
It's just very funny your next Alex. Oh, no
Although I don't mind. I actually really enjoyed it
It was supposed to be like a like a punishment, but it was I was like practically sleep
It's quite a relaxing process. Oh, did you hear that you've got your own donation incentive, apparently?
A $12,500? No.
It's called Medic.
Oh, no! Apparently we just thrown pies at you.
Okay, look, Medic is seemingly obsessed with covering me in juice.
And I know that sounds weird, but it's true.
It does seem to be the case, actually. Now that you've pointed it out,
there is some obsession.
A lot of people watch the stream and say,
I just love to cover you in some sort of sauce.
Do you want to be, you can get pie?
Yep, you can get pie to Mike, that's your solution.
It doesn't have to be juicing your pie.
You're not any costoud of some kind.
The intention was it to get pie.
I'm going to come home covered in stuff.
You're going to have no clothes.
Yeah, why don't you eat the icing, Mike, smear it all over your face.
A lot of the gold, we have got cake.
I'm not eating cake.
Sure?
Yes. We got spare cake.
We had cake yesterday.
How spoiled we've become. There's too much cake.
Well the thing is I've got my cake here, but we also have cake for you here.
What? Just in case you don't get some. I don't know.
Because I'm a good friend.
I threw a spoon as well. It should be on the couch somewhere.
Oh!
Throne spoon.
I'd tell you what, we're together for like five hours, right?
Do you want to slowly over the time eat this?
No, no, no.
I will do this for you, right?
Okay.
Because everyone seems to be obsessed with shoving stuff in my mouth.
Yeah, sure.
6k we are 6k during our shift. This is ours one bite hold one tap it. I know I know you can get a whole piece in
I don't think I can but I'll try
I don't like the fact that you know that I do know that it is true
So if we can reach 6k within our shift, I will join you with the rest of this as well. We'll double tap it
Yeah, you need a fresh piece though. Oh, what a shame. Yeah, you finished that one. I feel like Bruce
I think Bruce Bob Trotter
Yeah, I think you could do it. Oh Sam give me the over under on getting this in one bang
Hey, I think you could do it
You think I could do it. Yeah, I think you got it
You've got a school that is it's production tells me it's soft. It will squish
Not the words. I was hoping to hear today. All right. Let me store mine
We're storing back on Jay.
I love the cake coming.
I love we got a little shelf. We got chocolate down here as well.
What is going on with you guys?
This is the North New York chocolate.
Holy crap!
What is happening?
Nipple clumps.
What have you guys been doing on heroic wings?
More chalky.
There's more red bull down here than in the fridge.
I'd just like you to know that Jesse just said,
that's my nipple clump.
Mine.
Anyone who's watching the stuff off the left.
hold on what is this I have nothing it's solid Jesse your nipple clamps your
thoughts he loves them you can just translate for him Jay it's easier the
otherwise you're gonna smudge your ball the headphones I just put the bike in
his face yeah that doesn't work they're very directional it was nice try though
I liked it, you know under here is um, you know, just pull it back the curtain
There's a lot of stuff down there. I'm doing behind the scenes video the race to build first just down there
It's just stuff. Listen. I left a plate. I left a plate down there the other day though when I got told off
I thought we were allowed to eat up here. Anyway, how have you got cake? I
Manifest it
Is that actually mirrors his birthday cake or have you just pulled it out your shirt? I
I have been known to, you know, as I say, just through pure force of wheel, just bring out cake.
Pit cake.
Pit cake is disgusting.
I would like to know what the items are looking for, so we could be a little excited as they get to the end of the day.
Oh, Stone Vault! There is a trinket or two from this place, I remember.
I can't remember what it is. That's big sad.
Once I see the item, I'll be like, that's it!
It's that one!
It's escape my memory at the moment of course running double evoker in here gives me the impression that they are probably after some sort
Of trinket that they can use but it is fragile. He's after something. Can you appreciate how pretty that Jesse looks?
Oh damn a swap back over full screen on Jesse. Oh
Wow the eyes are really popping. Oh, yeah a little bit of blush on the cheeks
You look beautiful
I think I did a good job. I think you're doing an excellent job
Jesse, you know when your lovely lady sees this, you are perma-makeup'd from the start of the world.
They get ready to do this every morning.
That hour that you're spending in the gym, no sir.
No sir.
That is now an hour in front of the makeup mirror.
You now need to invest several million dollars in makeup, because from what I can tell with what my wife spends,
that's the approximate cost of a basic makeup kit.
There we go.
Yes, it's some sort of investment into Apple or something, in order to buy some makeup.
My dear.
Oh dear indeed.
And I did a X-South cosplay, I had to buy, what I believe was a crayon.
Ah, okay. It's like six quid.
It's like, it's a crayon.
Oh, is it like a purple eyeliner or something?
It was a black crayon.
But it was, it was makeup approved.
Crayon?
Oh, a crayon.
You know, like crayon.
Okay.
Yeah, like, I just thought you were saying it in a strange fashion.
I'm saying it in an English accent.
Crayon.
Is that how we say in England?
Crayon, yeah. Crayon.
Yeah, that's what it's called.
I just ate them.
Thank you, Jordan.
Are these just right to them? Unfortunately.
Oh, damn!
They might be able to squeeze a bar, but no, it's looking pretty rough.
No.
This boss can be pretty spiteful. They're doing on a 10.
10's no joke. Just for anyone who's, like, not in the clue as to the difficulties, um, this, uh, tier.
10 is what you would do for a max box.
Yep. For your max vault. I think nines...
give the best baseline loot.
Uh, so you can spam nines if you want to. You could be slightly wrong on that, but yeah, you want to do 10s for your box.
I think if you do all sevens, you get keystone master this summer.
Just sevens?
Yeah, I know they've all popped them. It's not like at the old sevens back in the day
Oh, there you can see a you can see all the pictures. Yes. Yes. Yes. I did this on an M zero the other day
And I just didn't bother to interact with that. Just wait for something. I just I just
You don't remember they big they made a big deal out of the last boss
He's another bigger worthy boy because it had predictive AI in terms of where you were going. Oh, really?
And it does, it does check where you're running.
Oh, we're halfway to this cake goal.
Oh yeah, well, 6,000, get those 6,000 and we'll have cake.
No, let's talk about the worm.
We don't talk about the cake.
The AI cake.
KKI.
KKI.
KKI.
KKI.
Cake fart?
KKI.
KKI.
KKI.
That is a lot of risky Google today.
Don't Google that.
Don't Google that.
I have a lot.
about charity for kids. Happy Race to our first everyone, did you know Mike's Poseidon
Curse follows and spreads everywhere he goes to. The day he arrived my kitchen had a burst
pipe and my cellar got flooded. Damn, no big damage so we're good. I'm not laughing. Request.
Can you just flood that Neroobius?
Yeah, you can actually because there was something about a spider about...
I have heard.
Yeah, there was some sort of clue there that might be Leeds of Victory but...
Sorry about your stuff actually, I did see the pictures on Twitter.
Oh look dude, I've been there.
Much love. Many hearts in the chat for girls.
Thank you so much for the five gold donation.
We also got a hundred dollars.
Thank you so much from Turtle and Fish.
Oh no.
He says, this is the rat.
Yes, Mike take that cake swallow that cake hole
Nodders very nice
The turtle of fish waits for no man we also got a hundred fifty dollars in it from basheel
Who says get preach some cake clown?
There we go. Thank you. Don't watch we had cake yesterday
Freshly cooked fudge cake with a bit of cream more cake. I'm gonna have to go running again
Is that slice of cake legit production can you check I'd guess that it's probably somewhere around like 350
Fine that is no way 350 either that is way more. I don't know. Yeah, it's
It's a fancy bakery cake and fancy bakeries means more butter.
That's true.
That is legit all that fancy means is there's more butter in it than it's necessary.
I think you'll find it's fine.
Double checks and it is fine.
The technical term is, don't worry about it, Dr. Pat Boss, once again.
We also got a 10 dollar donation in from MetalMMO who says, I'll donate 10 more if you
managed to spice up the m plus happening in the background with your best well
centric puns and dad jokes looking at you preaching Jesse I don't go echo thank
you ever so much for your donation there we've also got a oh there we go a one
dollar donation in from artheos who says imagine everyone donating one dollar
that'd be sweet dude that would be sweet obviously means decide this is a
great cause this is for the really really sick children you can't like
get out of hospital provides entertainment and helps that
the education coming out of hospital for long stays it does so much it helps them
get on with their lives again it's a really good cause it's a super good
cause it means me injecting myself with calories just a little cake and then a
run then have you been Jim today I have I have gone again if that cake's going
I think we come off at the same time we'll both go to him that'd be nice oh
Oh, so you can spend some time together.
Will you spot me?
No.
Oh, I will try.
I don't know where.
I'm not going to go on a spot, anyone.
She's busy.
She just lurks in every corner of the gym,
just like a spider.
Just in the corner.
Yeah, just watching my legs.
She says, your farm is crap.
That is nice.
That's it.
That is in some ways some feedback.
In many ways, that's helpful.
Yeah.
Here we go again on this boss.
Again, my favorite boss in this dungeon.
I love how quickly its mechanics happen.
happen as soon as he leaps out it's already going down. Certainly with the drag across
the room as well. It's absolutely brutal.
Clicks getting clipped there. Big sad.
It's also nice that the boss HP is linked. You do have to manage your DPS here because
if you kill...
You're totally right, yeah.
That's a lovely touch. Usually they make dungeons and stuff a little bit easier by
linking their HP or something on those sides.
They've even done it in the raid, haven't they?
Yeah.
There you're entirely right.
Here he comes.
I must admit first time that mechanic happened to me. I died. I ate that straight to the face here
Yes, this uh, this boss when one of them dies the other one does a crazy amount. Oh, it's mad
Really really crazy. So you need to be super super careful making sure they die at the same time. Otherwise, you will fall
for sure even in the
Very very rough. Whoa. I'm not sure about that play nice
Don't be mad that was a crazy move. Oh
I don't forget replay that
Sanity and then because we can break it. Oh
No, oh
What happened? I don't know but I don't like it. Oh wow. There's a nine there now. There is a nine in the cake
You guys are gonna make me so fat and I feel like Emma's a ringleader
a little bit of cake Mike it's not a little bit it's a giant wedge of cake
we have been using it to hold the doors open we've got a five-girl donation in
from the rat it says hello break it's me watch the rat oh we go what's this one
oh it's from before click size we're gonna go through this bit by bit
oh he's on the edge can you see I just don't think that he's in like he's
gonna get hit by the big wave there yeah on the corners of this little area
Little bubble boy, and then I want to see what nice means that she said that he did
This is a full Tom play
What do you do you'll see in a sec
It was a very heroic. Oh, can you see this the jumper cables good res? Yeah
There we go. Actually being a team play. I don't often seen that
Close my kid watch nice memes
Okay, this is kush though right nice and I think we've got kush. That's it. Okay. Yeah, we've only got kush
Right, you're just gonna see nice memes. Just get slapped by what was it really?
He's gonna do a hero. Oh
Damn
Valiantly valiantly lept into the box that is a strong choice a strong choice
That is one of the choices you could have made there.
That is the most choice of all time.
Definitely a decision.
Ah, so from the rat, a five dollar donation who says,
Hello, Preach, it's me, the rat, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven.
More sevens.
See you in the sauna, my darling, XOXO.
Thank you very much.
The rat also got a one dollar and eleven cent donation from Packle.
Thank you very, very much.
One dollars from Milo as well.
He says, here's my one dollar, appreciate it Milo.
Milo we've also got a and big claps in the chat for this a five hundred dollar donations from
erzy b apologies if i've screwed that name up he says all of the castors should get
zalatath makeup on a body parts of production can then put it together as a frankenstein's cast
to zalatath i like the idea also i can't believe preach thought it would take hours to get to
6k after that promise should do we've been live for eight days
Nine days yum yum yum. Thank you so much as a bee. I like that idea
I'd like you know, we could we could all get make top makes up. All right, mate
I have to ask who's being the feet. I
Think it should be you do you do not want to see you don't there's a mixture of like
Hobbit hobbitness
Jay should be the Zallie toes. Oh
Oh hold on. I got my nails painted in the theme of Zala's hats so I can be Zali hats. I didn't see them. They're very nice. Are they purple? Yeah they're purpley and then they've got a shimmer in it as well.
I don't know what happens. Okay we do. We've got an update on the. It's sparkly. Let's have a little look over. Whoa. That's really good. I like all of the markings there as well.
starting to you can see the red on the other side as well so I've gone for like
oo-woo on one side how is that supposed to be anime side yeah but it's a little bit trashed
yeah we could turn it up we'll turn it up but then this side I was quite proud of I think it looks
wonderful yeah a lot of cats loving it as well Jordan Jordan yeah me no okay is that shimmer on
on the eye. Yes it is and glitter. Well done Mike. Mike is learning the terminology.
Absolutely fantastic. Thanks for the update. We will continue to let you know how Jesse
gets on with the onslaught that Jordan's putting it through. We've got a $10 donation in from
Chubby Goldfish who says let's help some poor kids have a better life. Also go Echo.
Chubby Goldfish. Chubby Goldfish. A very, very funny name with a very, very wholesome
message. I know, it's the dichomium man. It's like when you get a really nice sign from
somebody in P.O.E. and the name is just like the first thing. So, thanks man. I'm gonna
appreciate that. Oh Jesus Christ. Got ten dollars coming in here from Max Bertie who
says I sprained my ankle so can't go for a run for a few more weeks. So this is
my way of making Preach go on a run for me. I will. Clown. I was being really
Really nice then, you were. I was feeling bad for you, I would run for you.
No, you're going to be running regardless. You've only got $25 away from having Mike
absolutely one chat and a cake.
You guys raised $1000 in ten minutes just for the fact that it makes me fat. Thank you.
Yum yum yum yum yum yum yum yum. We got a $1 donation in from Teto. It says $1 Chatterman's
Let's go. Completely agree on that one. And it has $1 from them. It's a dollar
that helps a child, like per child. Like it's awesome.
$5 coming in from station earth who says favorite stream of the year massive thumbs up to all of the Raiders casters and staff PS
I love feet don't know why I read that last bit
Just a bit oh got a $2 donation in from
from uh, Keelio, who says imagine if we all get $2, come on people, spare one coffee today
and donate to help children instead go Echo, very, very generous of you Keelio, as well
as a $5 donation coming in from Shrox who says Blalatath is my favourite emote. A
chat filled with Blalatath is sure to provide good for Echo.
Oh, I would love to see a Blalatath doll. We're going to need another piece of cake
Sam. Ooh, they've smashed it.
We've done it! You can see the Blalatath coming in right now in the chat.
Oh, I can really see it on the stream!
Oh, we've got it. I've got you guys up on the iPad right now.
Blalatath.
So, Mike, um...
They did it, dude!
They did, dude.
They $6,000 raised.
Damn.
Just for my heart disease.
And may I introduce you?
Have you ever produced like it?
The creme de la creme. The cakeeth that enter the hole.
I don't think I can get it in.
I believe...
Well, we've got to do it together.
Oh.
is a small one it's still quite it's quite thick we can't see anymore okay
then no come on now productions backing out so we can't say oh you're watching
okay yeah okay hold on are we gonna pull this is gonna be gross and I apologize
one at a time okay you go first cuz this is free go on LFR cake you don't
even have some bizarre Oreo cookie sticking out I'm for it wait fake Oreo
oh scam that's a fail wipe it all right you failed that's not good oh my you
wouldn't probably just pop it in there all the way come on now here we go
nearly done oh yes quick that all the ice and mate plop it in plop that in
your job mate. Delish. Oh yeah he loves that. Absolutely delicious game. Chew it. Go on
mate have a little chew. Oh. Delicious. Happy birthday Marys. Production can I have a tea
of towel? It might be worth taking a minute or two just to quickly wipe off. We're going
to come real brief or just going to wash our hands. It's not the first time I've
situation. Welcome back everybody. Oh, that's, uh, oh, here we go.
Slow motion. That's this. I assume this is the right. I'm, I can't watch this. I
can. Do you want to cast it, Mike? At this point, you can see the despair rising.
He's smiling nervously as he's fully understanding that what he's about to
do is going to be clipped, maybe be an emo. And maybe even in the future,
have to watch it back in slow motion. You can see it started well by assessing the width.
I had a little wiggle. I mean it was, I don't have a wide mouth but then it became to the
girthy side. Alex, you take it from here. Yeah, no, you just really just shove in all
the, I like the three finger technique of just really, oh my god, the snake lock door
technique. Oh my goodness, the absolute horror on display on the stream and then
look up like did I do it did I do well there's the knowledge now I do realize
my technique was poor now is what I should have done is palm to the base
and then it should have been one of those but fortunately we'll never find out
how that could have gone in there but we as you guys are waiting it with baited
breath any mythic plus could be the last mythic plus and should be we know
several the players are in fact essentially kept on what they can get
out of Mythic Plus. In fact they just fully are, there's nothing else for them to get.
There's a couple of people who are still hoping and praying to get to the thing that they're
hoping for from their runs. They're also filling out for their vaults. I mean if this is what
boss number five looks like, reset is very much a possibility, although it's very early
in the race to make that call. But they'll be done regardless. They need to do these
M-Pluses anyway. Gear is certainly going to help them when they get to Brute Twister.
Even if they're geared what will help them overcome the mechanics of Brutes Rista
It will absolutely help on the nightmare that is awaiting them afterwards
Oh, yes princess. Yes, so this is not wasted time for echo at all to be getting this done and get everything
They possibly can out of these dungeons. Yeah, Covezza looks super nasty
Looks like it's gonna be a crazy crazy fight for them to have to counter so really looking forward to that
We've been talked about the one fight that really we thought would be the worst one for them silk and cork
I still think it will be I think I'm looking at Ancerac. Yeah
If Ancerek is Farak again, good job, listen.
Yes, well, we're definitely in for a race.
Could you think of three or four days, Al,
we'll be sat here and they'll be like on Silkencourt, right?
Oh yeah.
And we're like, dude, this is brutal.
It can't get like heavier than this.
And then Buzz is like, hold my beer.
That's when you have no idea.
You head into Ancerek and you realize
that you're actually fighting Ancerek
and the Queen's Court at the same time.
The Silkencourt at the same time, even.
So there we go.
That would be cool.
That is the kind of phase.
The Ancerek Mystic phase, definitely coming.
100%. I think it could do. She could ascend even if it's just like a palette swap style thing where I would like to see the fully ascended version of the boss.
It would be cool. Very interesting. We do know there's things that happen on Zalata. That won't be till the last Titan that will be saying those words.
I think she'll die next patch in a cutscene in a side quest.
Doubt. Yes. There we go. She's gone now.
Our girl, the toe rings are sticking around for quite some time.
Hopefully do you think like I'm kind of done with the feet job of her coming down with the feet Bob
She's done it twice now. Yeah, it actually reminds me without being on a fee trend again
Did you ever see the movie Constantine? No, no, maybe okay, then it's that
Is that we can't it kind of reads I did watch that I was very very very tired the next day after a night out
I watched it and I can't remember what happened. Well, anyway
So you have see it will get its reference to a song shot-for-shot what happened in the recent cutscene was our death is when the devil arrives
All right, it's the same shot of the feet coming down
I was like is that what you've pulled it from to this way that might enjoy the jolly crackpot theories because you've been paying close attention to the story
I know it's I'm a expert. Can you name the zones? Yes
So yeah, I can do that. Oh good
That's that's reassuring. You got the Isle of Dawn
And then you've got the ring in deeps. Yes, hello for yes, and you got the spider place. Yeah, you do despite a place is like
Zala
I don't know what I was worried about what we place the name of the I wish it's a shaker
It's a shaker. It's there we go shaker
By the way crackpot theory is that Xarath will consume the world in void
At the end and I did you know that's kind of a mission. It's a little rude though
Yeah, I mean there's no way we win at the end of the expansion
I don't think that's happening one thing that I can say that we're definitely winning though is that we're winning on
Beauty in the battle against un-beautified. Are you complete?
Oh, we're gonna go to Jesse
Can we do a frontal shot though?
Just gonna you look straight at camps and not yeah, not yet. We're waiting
Where he's doing this because he's got no headset. Although he's wearing something on his lips now
We've prevent them moving
using hand signals to us now to portray what's happened.
Welcome back to Tuesday.
We'll come back shortly.
We will indeed.
So you think the whole thing's gonna be consumed in void, eh?
At least by, I mean, midnight, you know,
the political of the darkness makes sense.
The next expansion, I suppose.
Yeah, there's a cool thing happening in the story right now
is we kind of had a mini victory.
We killed Queen Ansriq and we freeing the Neurubians
and now we've got the power vacuum happening
in Ashkah Hetz as to which of the sides
are going to take power over the now, you know.
Isn't her mum still about, but like an abomination for?
Yeah, not good.
And her roommates, definitely roommates.
The Weaver is currently taking care of her in the Weaver's
lair.
So if you've not seen that and you've done the story
and you have been into the story,
make sure you go down and check the inn in the Weaver's
lair.
You will find Queen, the original Queen.
I forget her name right now.
I'm struck as a daughter.
You will find the original Queen.
There's something, maybe?
Yes.
But yeah, we're all celebrating a little victory right now.
It's like, yay, we beat the spiders, but pretty clear
that Xalatath, who has been following us around
as the champion for a long time and seen us bring down
all gods is not remotely surprised
and is actually kind of lost.
I don't know what Xalatath is.
What is Xalatath?
You might be able to find out.
Oh, maybe so, maybe so.
Why don't we call in Novel to get the full start?
We could join us.
Are you doing that?
Well, now we've got Xalatath.
Word.
Have we even got a headset for you?
Should be hold there should be a where is what's happened headset wise there? I bet medics broke it. There's a wire
There is a wire
I'll be under the blank. He's behind you. He thought I'm talking to you like a fish. Oh, oh, hey, what?
Beautiful and we are joined by the one the only zalata. I didn't rise your feet out
And you didn't make them up Jay
I didn't paint his toes.
You didn't paint the toes!
What are we saying here then?
What's going on?
How's it going beautiful?
I feel lovely like a princess.
So what have we got going on here Jay?
Describe your artwork to us.
So I decided to make Uu Uji into Uu Ua Zatath.
Uu Zatath?
It's a very volatile.
Yes, we've got half pink, half purple,
Zulleroof.
Abomination.
Half pink.
Obviously not you, it's me.
Half pink, half purple.
I tried my best.
All beautiful, I'm sure we could agree.
Oh, wow.
You're looking, how do you feel, Jesse?
I feel like it was worth it for the children.
And also, we're all feeling like that, Miss Ketchum.
Yeah, I saw some cake synonyms.
I also think that it's very relaxing to have someone like take care of your face.
Yeah. It's annoying.
What?
How glad you are.
You have also wore the stockings.
Women's stockings?
Yeah. No.
Yes, you have.
No.
G.T.B. Lovely.
Yes, you have.
I have.
Oh, no.
They're surprisingly comfortable and nice.
A little breezy in the midsection, though.
Yeah, but they're nice.
Yeah.
Yeah. So the relaxation aspect of it.
But that's not what putting makeup on your own is like, is it?
Is it kind of a bit?
Imagine it's more work when you're doing it yourself.
It was actually quite nice to paint your face.
Yeah, yeah, it was nice.
Usually when I do mine, if something goes well, it's an accident.
And I've got to try and recreate it on the other side,
which is why you've got two different colors.
Is this you tried to match?
Yeah.
Oh.
I see.
What do you think?
Messics.
Dreee!
Stop!
Would you describe this as ream?
Oh, yes.
I don't know what that means.
That's a fair bet.
That's good.
Yeah, yeah, that's good.
Well, it's all for the good of the children.
It is.
Are you glad you got it down?
I am.
It was fun and I'm looking forward to the next goals being reached and some more shenanigans
being found for the audience to enjoy.
And I'll leave this one all day.
I have a shift later.
And then I think that, what is it saying?
I see Blalatath, I Blalatath, right?
So, trap, get your Blalataths in there.
Yeah, sideways.
There it is.
Can we get a zoom in on the Blalata, the Jalatath?
Jalatath.
Jessatath.
Jessatath.
Chris, do your work.
Begin the process.
I think he's already very hard at work with the cake.
The cake is going to be taking his time.
It is.
And clip.
That's what he says.
Alright, I leave the two of you back to your shenanigans.
We'll look forward to having you on the next round.
You better get ready, because I feel like we're going to pick soon and I know you'll be back.
I am ready.
been ready. He's just been made ready. He's made it more ready than before. So thank you
very much for everyone donating. Thank you very much. You're a good spot, G. Yes, Jesse
as well as Jordan for your amazing artwork, making him look very, very beautiful. So thank
you so, so much. Be a big shout out to chat for donating to get to make that all possible.
Your donations have been flooding in over the last hour. Let's be sure your donations
really help really sick kids yes it's not just to make gelatine people always
also people take it seriously that might need really didn't want to be that cake
like no no I didn't but at the same time a thousand kids just got help who were
sick in hospital we're okay we're good you're entirely right I had to eat a
piece of cake we'll survive some could say that that was indeed a piece of
Oh
Well, we got send all donation coming in earlier from the pipe he says hi Mike. It's me the pipe
Have you checked it in your office recently?
Enjoy the cake
Obviously a call back to
Switzerland no
Yeah, that was a that was a rough time
It's all fixed now though, right? Yeah. Yeah, we're back in now
Yes, we did have the destruction of everything I did in over the last 12 years, let's all laugh
La Mal
Tempo radiation in from ordinary La Mal
Ordinary Ollie, who says production should replace that cake with microwave steak and eggs
Mike would be all over it. The fiend. What?
Microwaved steak? Eggs? Fair enough
Look
I'm not going down the road, but let me just
Like a version
No, there was just I wanted a steak sandwich the steak from last night was in the fridge
So I put it in the microwave 30 seconds to give it a bit of warmth. That was it. That's not good
What do you mean? It's just warm the
Refrigerate cold steak isn't as nice as slightly warm steak. You don't want to if you're gonna oh my god
It's a bit thoroughly heat. Oh my god, and you can't leave it out for more than four hours
You told me that 16 times since we've been in the fridge.
True.
Huge hygiene is important.
Okay.
I'm just fine.
I'm still here.
I don't know.
It was just slightly warmer than cold in the fridge.
Could be dead.
He should have died.
I have been seeing dead people.
This place is haunted, you know.
Got a 20 dollar donation in from Jalford who says, Zalli cake.
Oh.
A void cake would be most delicious, I'm sure you'll agree, Mike.
Five dollar donation in from as is surely preach should be the Zali toes for that
Amalgamation picture that was put forward earlier. I assume that's what you do not want to see my toes
There's an issue with my big toe you said
Well, yeah, you're a big toe was in line or slightly smaller than the toe to the
Smaller than the next toe. Yeah, my big toe is not the big toes like that's really weird and then but no
I went back to the hotel room, not like immediately, I didn't brush my face, I sprinted away from the table and I need to find out.
My toes are the same.
Have you never noticed?
No, I guess not.
Mine's not in line, it's definitely sharp.
I don't think it's noticeably shorter.
Yeah, mine's noticeably shorter.
But my brother, I got a complex about it because my brother and my dad used to call me wall kicker.
Once they found out, because he's been kicking walls to shot on his big toe.
Actually he just used to call me wall kicker for years. I cried every night.
Really?
No.
I've got quite good, um, a dexterity with the feet. I can pick up their pencils and throw them.
I've seen you in that show in Thailand. Yeah, that was dope.
I'm going to tend to look at the hands of Rackers, who's this question from like,
have you ever been caught with a test toes?
No.
Must be good at it then.
That's what he said.
Thank you, Braggers, for the $10 donation.
We've got a $1 donation from Hum2War, who says,
beating Pinscake for Preach.
Just adding everything together now.
We've got a $10 donation in from NinjaJack,
who says, I'm here again.
Echo for the world first again.
Hashtag RatKlan, hashtag for the kids.
Let's start this expansion with an Echo victory
and take it all the way to the end.
Oh, very much so. Still so more to go through. $2 from Milo says, here's my $2. Thank you so, so much.
A $25 donation in from Tyche. He says, I think Mike deserves a wedge of cake to shove up his mouth.
I feel sorry for Alex though for being collateral damage. I actually enjoyed my cake very much.
You have a small piece! You didn't even count and you didn't even do it!
You full ditched me there.
I- well, it's the structural integrity of the cake started to dissipate.
Oh yeah, mine was rock solid. It was like eating a brick.
That's what I had. $10 from anonymous says great cause, great stream.
Thank you guys. Thank you so so much for getting tons of donations in.
Please do get them flowing in. We'll be getting to them over the course of the mythic prog.
So now you've got me in alpha quite some time. We'll be with you for a while because
they're definitely in mythic any time in about seven minutes and five seconds.
They will be heading into Brew Twister and they're going to have all these new shiny
He trinkets and all this gear and a really cooked strat.
I'll tell you what, genuinely I'm memeing there,
but this is where Roger shines in fights like this.
This is where Roger cooking.
Is Roger at his desk production?
Is he actually cooking stuff up?
Oh, yes, that is a wise Roger.
Look at that.
That is a man who is mid-cook.
Yeah, this is where you love a Roger Brown weighing
everything up, making decisions, making choices.
He does actually look like some sort of like a king
with people coming to him and advising him.
It's like Dr. Claw.
Don't even show that to Gatchelob when he's twiddly like,
yeah.
Yes.
Mayhap she will bring four arcane mages.
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That is the deep thought of Scribe.
Yeah.
Is he going through stuff with, is that?
Mini.
That was.
Isn't that mini?
Yeah, it's mini.
Why does Potter look like he's ready to murder somebody?
Because he's done the healing cooldowns days ago.
And he's waiting for him to get in.
I think this is,
I tell you what I do you want to see and the guys were saying they got more into like app development and stuff like that now.
There's so many bits of software out there.
Yeah, the stuff that I was using, they're not going to reveal to laughter to the race. It's incredible, but I think liquids built something similar.
So I heard them talking about it on the stream. I could be wrong here again because we're not over there, but something where they can build stuff on an app or whatever and it transfers it into a Wecore or some other good stuff to make life easier.
Oh snap. It's like a Wecore creation thing.
I just heard them like chatting about it while they I was I was I was in the gym this morning
I was watching their Brutes with the poles because the guys hadn't started yet. So I
Wondering I'm wondering after the race where they'll both like show these things that they've been working on is like
Shiny things and it's kind of that next level again of where the race to world first is going
I find really intriguing because I've been watching it since day one where you're like, oh, we might do an alt
Oh my god.
They want it.
It was like, we might have an alt character.
Oh, could you imagine?
What wackiness is this?
And then in like five years' time, we don't even have players playing anymore.
Just a series of robots.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm like partially, I've got this two side of it, man.
I'm one I'm really impressed with like the stuff they come up with.
It's just wacky at this point, like really crazy.
But at the same time, it kind of feels like it's even more inaccessible by like
other guilds to get into that world first race.
Do you know what I'm saying?
It's a lot of resources.
Yeah.
Moves further and further ahead, it was like a richer type of scenario, whereas, you know, a few years ago, if you had some dedicated players and you were willing to put in a little bit of day raiding, then you had a chance.
True.
I haven't even seen the last boss of Grim Battall. It's since Cataclysm, that was a blast from the past.
Right, there's a lot of technicals there. I remember the eggs. Did you have to do something with the eggs? Did you brave them or something?
Did you film the area with Void?
Yeah, there was an eye that you had to stand in. That was about as complicated as really like Cataclysm.
It was a space that wasn't Voidal that you have to staff to.
I like the sound of that.
Yeah, that's not like a one of that at all.
And you still have wipes and all sort of stuff.
What's he at? 619?
619.
OK.
That's a 636 weapon.
Damn.
That's a big weapon.
I shouldn't have crafted it.
Yeah, you can't get that from me.
Oh, getting a ring.
Very nice.
Hopeful, making his way through Siege of Beralis.
Yeah, Hopeful's full trade by now.
He has everything he needs from the Glickboss.
I imagine they're here for a trinket.
The, you can see how many Agi users are in here.
We've got three Agi users with clicks on his enhance
with a nice wing to push,
probably going for that spyglass trinket.
It was spyglass one more time, dude.
They're all talking about it all the time.
I know it's brilliant,
but they are hunting the spyglasses down to find them.
But they've got a full, actually a full echo team.
They've got lucky on a key.
So, yeah, usually this is where they echo truly
rely on you the audience. Oh, yeah, I've got like a plus eight somewhere or something.
I saw them advertising for that. Any plus nine key just
our cars last night is like, please, if you have an our car key, you know, the
traders that will really follow you. But of course, you do expect them to play
with echo to get a free clear of your M plus in free gear in your box for your
higher key. And then we saw some issues. But that didn't happen. Yeah.
Do you have a log on stuck in there? Oh, no, Derek stuck in the
Scythe. When he finally got the rage feather, right?
It was like 20 runs.
He was there for so long overnight.
I'm pretty sure Liquid heard that he got that trinket just by how loud he shouted all the way from Switzerland.
Everyone was well aware that he got that trinket.
Was he casting? How he's casting the method?
I heard. Yeah.
Very cool.
I want to check that out when I get off the team.
Because he's gone into, because he decided to take a step back from...
Is it another retired raider, man?
And I think he's doing like full-time bodybuilding stuff.
Yep.
And I think so.
He's a thick boy.
Yes, no.
Very in shape.
Always doing stuff like that.
He's not like mushrooms.
Fair enough.
He's that very clear.
I remember.
He's not like mushrooms.
And they keep feeding me mushrooms.
There was a lot of mushrooms.
There was a lot of mushrooms.
There was a lot of mushrooms.
A lot of lasagna.
That's not...
We didn't have lasagna today, did we?
Apparently.
He got advertised to us as a lasagna when really it was very nice. Don't get me wrong. It wasn't lasagna
It was a tazin some some meat and taze. It was don't be so British about it
It was a lean mince pea combination with dolphin water potatoes with a lovely red cavar
I think you'll find that dolphins had nothing to do with this Mike. They did
filthy potato eating dolphins. We had shredded dolphin on our potatoes today
How come you've hoarded all of the Final Fantasy bits?
I know that you're jealous of them. This is not mine, that's Chris's.
You threw it at me, but you're absolutely correct.
I'm feeling very lonely over here, that's all I'm saying.
Oh, who would you like?
I have been having quen with me quite a lot, so I'll grab them.
Behold.
And I hate them as well.
Oh no!
Oh, floor down.
There we go, floor angle, big sad, rubbery goobers.
Oh dear, go and sit over there.
So yeah, that does continue to slam Mythic Blast.
I wonder, I thought they'd be jumping into the raid by now, no mean.
I wonder if there's anything that they're particularly disgusting.
I'm not entirely too sure.
If you like quickly pop back over to Roger or Scrypov,
I just want to see if they're muttering away.
Yeah, they're both looking at Mini as well.
Yeah, they're trying to decide his upgrade pass.
Now that they're going to run 3DKs because we're likely to see Perfecto, Narko and Mini all freezing it up
Is they're probably checking loot upgrade paths, who's going to go where, what's going to happen here
You can see he's looking at his over month, yeah Mini's just like, fold you guys tell me what you want me to do
Just send me a message on Discord and I'll do it when I get back
These guys spend hours making these decisions for the players
And the players are like, yeah just let me know
Now it's Perfecto's path right there that Scribe was looking at so yes it does seem to be a little bit of a DK discussion going on
whilst all the other players, and this is what they're used to doing. If we are
waiting for a decision to be made, or someone to get a task done, the other
players aren't just gonna be sat in front of the boss waiting for the other
person to turn up. No, they're gonna try and find as much power as they can
from anywhere else, of course with the infinite loot that you can get from
Mythic Plus. It's a constantly spammable bit of content. Might be worth. No, no
problems doing that. I don't know if I'm explaining exactly what's happening.
We're saying they're discussing decays, right? This is sure. Let's explain the
The nerdiness that is actually happening here because I know many of you like us like to go pull the bottle off
Yeah, they are going through this fight
Every few seconds and what they're doing is going through the entire raid company saying right at
22 seconds
We're going to get two big spiders two goonies are in fests and then we're gonna get a worm
Those people are gonna go take care of the worm that has that much HP so they need to dive it that much time to it
We're going to do this this and this here. Okay, that's sorted. Then they're going to go
45 seconds later
This is happening at the same time Potter is going right at 22 seconds. Oh, yeah
It's webs with movement. That's going to happen then that's that's particular cast of spells
And it's like okay. Well if we use our cooldowns here at
85 seconds, we're gonna need we're gonna lack slight amounts of DPS
So where are we getting that from and they're doing that for the whole fight and then they're going
right how much HP should the boss have left now that's not enough so now we need
to go back and we need to maybe put in a different character which then shakes up
all the cooldowns and I'm not joking that is what they're doing right now is
they are mapping this fight down to the second using everybody's abilities
everybody's cooldowns how much damage they should do they're gonna have to
sim it every step of the way and Potter similarly is like okay we're
probably going to have to reduce healers here how do we cover x y and z
overlap when this happens what if this mistake happens all that kind of stuff
and they they will come up with a framework yep that should work now you're
entirely right that's how they did wriggle on exactly the same way they framed it all
out to the second it's like this is what happened and then there'll be a
week or a pushed out which says like reminder you need to press X and Y now
you don't and then someone else be like do not use your cooldowns now you need
them in a minute like that's one thing that's kind of interesting about the
Brute Twister fight that in theory once you've broken one set of ads out you have
done the fight you just do that over and over again it's just in different
combinations with different damage output from you and different damage
output required from you depending on what ads you bring out right but in
terms of like getting practice on a fight like that well if you can break
out eggs and not kill each other with webs your practice is kind of done
you know it comes down to being able to do the damage profiles
correctly as well as the tanks being able to sort their stuff out so there is of
course some practice to be done but if you can already sort out the DPS aspect
of it make sure everyone is doing damage at the right times you're going to be
in a much nicer position yeah and it's also a lot of the practice is needed
for when things don't go to plan so you can say something like okay evokas
you will knock the parasites on this set and this one has three sets of
So three of you focus do that. Wait a minute. I can't do that now because I'm assigned to X look at egg
Because I got chosen to break an egg. Yeah, because we're gonna have it's you know
We're gonna need to double up on the egg breaks
So what happens then who fills in for that gap and then what's the priority system then of who goes where do we communicate it?
Or do we are we all talking and saying like I've been assigned to triangle
So I'm not gonna do square somebody else fill in for square and then the person who's supposed to screw
I was like, well, I can't do it, because now I'm over orange.
So that needs to happen and be fixed.
And it can't be a case of like, send it,
because that's not going to work,
because people are going to be spread out all over the room.
It needs to be exact.
Who is dealing with this?
Because what you can't do is sort of like go,
well, I don't know.
On this one, I could maybe nip to blue,
or maybe I can hover over.
Well, what about you, Tommy?
Can you do it?
No, I'm busy.
I've got to do this.
And we've got a proper healing
cool down there and all this kind of stuff.
That can't happen.
That also might be getting very deep in the weeds in terms of, oh dear, is that a raid coming together?
Mayhem, mayhem.
And no, that looks like it's going to be a split raid.
Who's in it?
A lot of people I don't recognise.
Who's it for?
I imagine we will be seeing perfecto's character be going in here.
I don't think he did the last boss, so I think we might be doing the last boss.
Yeah, I think we might just do a quick answer.
We'll see though, it could be wrong.
It looks very clear to me that they have cleared everything else out, so yeah.
Yeah, this is an Answrek.
Yeah, they're going to have a quick run over towards Answrek and finish it off.
But after that, I do believe there's going to be very little left to do, but we will
see.
I've said that a couple of times today and I've ended up being incorrect.
But the idea about the knockback is you're entirely right.
Like, but if you spend, like it might also come down to you've got to let your
players play.
You've got incredibly good players that are good at playing on the fly.
As long as you have assigned enough CC to it and backups, hopefully there might be a
certain element of RNG that every single CC person that has to go and do an egg or they
are webbed and they're in horrible positions.
Unfortunately, sometimes you've got a Malagon, right?
You can't plan for those really, really neat situations unless you know they're going
to happen all the time.
You know, in which case you have to do a fundamental change in strategy.
But generally speaking, plan for the average and maybe slightly beyond the average of what
you are hoping to see.
And if it means you just need to pull the bus like two or three more times, then so be it.
You're just going to get through it.
These guys have got all day to pull the bus.
I agree.
Yeah.
And Scribe agrees with you and I agree with you as well.
Like, you can overcomplicate it and put stress on people.
And I think I remember which raid tier it was, where Scribe was sat having dinner with
me and he went, I really learned this tier that we have the best players in the
world.
Spyglass!
Hey!
Ta-da!
That's a laughter.
That's a smiley boy!
Good.
That's sweet release
Nice, yeah, that's quite legit really said exactly as like I have the best players in the world
I don't need to babysit them as much as I do and often it could be a case of like
Okay, we've got two floaters like if you see an issue just deal with it
Yeah, and that's enough like you've got MDI champions in here
Multiple MDI teams who deal with this strict coordination on a regular basis their multi-time world champions at this
So you're absolutely right. It's just making sure like who you do need somebody who's like, okay
You pick up the slack right? Oh, yes. It's the only things like if kicks I always have this issue with kicks is
Sometimes you've restricted on the amount of kicks versus amount of interrupts you have to do
but
When it's like okay for people assigned one two three four
If one of those people is caught a position debuffed lost forgets
And then there's a bunch of people who just haven't interrupted but like it's not my job
Mm-hmm
Not just interrupt it dude. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. You know what I'm saying like yeah
Yeah, I get it. It's not you're not assigned to interrupt. That doesn't mean don't ever interrupts like that's crazy
Yeah, for sure like um, they're gonna interrupt you you're gonna find that to be an incredibly important piece of
Organization that they're gonna have to do on this boss coming up
It's the ad scoffs so fast those worms to the extent that the they kind of need singling down
You've only got so many kicks available for them before it's just like nope. Oh
See ya
Big sad there, but the
You're entirely right having those kicks organized and properly done and have been ready for backups being flexible
Even if you're next on someone else's list is someone asked for a help say I've got it
But someone covered this you know those sorts of things are gonna be very very important those calls on the fly
But talking of calls we have just received one that
after this split
Not this particular one, but the one that we find...
Here we go.
Gingian right now, after this boss goes down, we're going into mythic.
It is confirmed, it hasn't been confirmed, guys.
It has happened, so as we are getting ready, and then moving up to the side,
I do want to give a special shout out of course to Secret Lab for providing all these chairs.
You can see look at Gingian modelling that chair first.
Oh yeah.
And that Secret Lab Titan that you can pick up there, of course,
with a multitude of skins, including a very fancy fantasy one.
Oh, the finest fantasy one was beautiful.
It is gorgeous. It is gorgeous.
And a bunch of Warcraft skins that you can actually reskin these chairs and put them over the top
so you can have some various designs and refresh them if they're getting a bit damaged.
So shout out to Secret Lab there and of course Displate.
We've got some wonderful crabs, spider displates.
All kinds of stuff that are coming out for this race to remember.
It's certainly something we'll be taking home as memorabilia and maybe you do too,
especially as this story develops over the course of this race starting very easy.
And now maybe we will see another hollanderous type situation developing.
That would be interesting. We'll see. We'll see.
Of course, El Gato, who have provided the Wave DX's that they're using to talk to each other.
You've heard them on their streams. They're so good when we listen in and all the teams.
There's also the Facecam Pros as well, making it so you can see the players in all of their beauty,
as well as the Streamdecks that we would be nowhere without even here on the desk,
let alone what production are using in order to bring you a wonderful, wonderful show.
Of course, there as well, amazing peripherals that all the players are going to be using.
that amazing Simitar wireless mouse very good for MMO gaming such I'm I'm
I'm switching over I'm gonna give it a go it is a normally it's always scared me
but like the more I look into this product the more like even just the
side the fact that it's got all of these different textures you can find
out where you want to buy them from your mouth yeah I've got chunky hands and
this is something that I am able to use so a few of those are gonna go
missing unfortunate production sorry that's unfortunate yep we're gonna be
and they just keep improving
on them over time. So, you
shout out. I'm a caring guy.
Oh, I mean, but we will remind
you guys, of course, every time
a boss dies, cause that is doing
a big giveaway. We gave away a
ton of stuff yesterday. We
gave away four sematars
headsets every time a boss
dies. We will be having a
giveaway here along, of course
with the Roger Roger's
Delves, which we've got here.
Can we do one of those
before we get started
Roger's Delves which we've got here. Can we do one of those before we get started?
We'll be looking to that stuff for last production if we can do a little delve with Roger there because we have so many
Things to give away. We really do like look at the state of this tons
These are all things to give away to you guys over the course of this race
So as we are our final moments of fun time happy fun time with you guys
before we get serious and you know it's become giga focused on what is about to
come so maybe we can get a little Roger's Delve what just treasure trove yes
well we'd delve into Roger's treasure trove yes although Jordan did fill these
envelopes so they're probably full of me they are full of lasagna with mayo and
them oh god but you know and mayo what a combo
delish that is delish so see we saw some giveaways out for you before we
get going so we can strap in, relax, kick back and see exactly what they have been cooking
up for this fight. Will it be different to what Liquid's been doing? I imagine if we can
look into the future and be a bit prophetic about this, I imagine we're going to see quite
a few pools where they're just getting used to the route, people getting into their heads
and then a few pools where the differences will happen we talked about is like, okay,
I guarantee you the prog, everything goes to plan until like pool number seven and
And that's what it's like, oh well I usually don't get picked there and now I need to switch
yours to another.
And it might be right, yes.
Yeah, that is always the case of some players.
As soon as people start getting comfy in a fight, that's when things can start going
a little bit wrong.
Although it depends on the player.
Some players are out there and if they really really struggle if they, warlocks, they
really really struggle if they have to do new things all the time.
It's something that they need to take some time to get used to a fight and
then they're like fully within the flow of it.
players thrive on the chaos and love it when everything's changing all the time
never comfy never good it's always interesting to see the differences in
the players have you seen the route here in this myth of plus by the way I've
not done any myth you don't have to go down that middle path you can just go
down one of the side paths you don't have to do all that guy who just does
the big star which is really annoying I don't know why I didn't think of that
I thought it was just scenery yeah no same here no apparently it's an
actual route that you can take I honestly I'm used to I'm post being
so linear, and the dungeon design since Semplus release being so linear, but I don't even consider
there's alternative paths really, because usually it's often the case that it's just a bit of scenery.
Dungeons design obviously being very heavily affected since Mythic Plus came out. When Legion
first came out, it was like, we've made dungeons, and there's also Mythic Plus on top of it,
because that's when the Mythic Keystone was first introduced back then, and then
ever since BFA onwards, they've been keeping Mythic Plus in mind. Oh! Raiders assembled.
Roger's treasure trove is on the way do get your channel points in you can redeem them at any point now
There's no other point in which you want to redeem them
We don't do Gamber or anything like that
So if you have got channel points do throw them our way
George's treasure trove is
Open we're gonna be yonking some of his loot. We've got a whole load of holes
Loot to be given you from many of our
wonderful partners so yes oh everyone let's deal things to my trove and see
what secrets we can uncover just don't take on my loot please
these are free these are just child points just by being here in the stream
it was possibly in you get them in and the notification is out echo is going
mythic they have one answer to do yes and then it's happening that is where
we go in so get in there look at all these goodies there's everything from
Pat's stream decks we gave away stream deck yesterday actually, yes we did
Pat going away earlier today, I think it's a little mischief pet earlier
Which is awesome, Transmars merch
So many good merch, we're also giving away a mythic boost
A full mythic boost, including the last boss, you get to be there
Road first, is there a mount? There is a mount, you get the mount in the mythic boost
You do indeed, mount the mount
Included, the only thing that you don't get on this is Roger
No rogers, he's a wide shouldered fella
It looks like the raid is full.
It looks like it.
It looks like they've got their raid full.
You're halfway there.
Just a few more shallow bites to unlock that.
You guys are slamming.
Slam it.
Team Crab, Team Spider.
Let's get this on.
This is we're heading to Mythic in the next few minutes.
We certainly are.
I'm super excited to see what they've cooked up
if they've cooked up anything.
In other ways, it could be true echo fashion
whether anything they've cooked up is what classes
they want to bring and they go, okay,
there's eggs, right?
And I think we got to break them out.
Break them out. Let's see what we can do.
I mean, it wouldn't be the first time, I would say.
Like, going over, they'd probably plan it out to the second.
They sent five spreadsheets.
They pushed it to a weak aura.
And they were getting there, and they're like,
I don't know. We got this way.
You just break the eggs that are close to the goo, dude.
And that's it.
Holy cow, dude.
400k left.
Ooh.
Keep it slamming.
By the time I finish my sentence,
there's only going to be another 300k left.
Wow.
You guys are really, really sending it today.
Awesome.
Good no channel points. You just came from being here and we'll give you free stuff
How good of a deal is that watching anyway enjoying this race which is now shaping up to be as the potential?
We don't know where we're going yet. Well, you have the potential to be one of the races of all time
The race I did get it
Done you've earned a ready check. That's what we get for
Doing it we get to pull the boss. Yes
Do vote not with a chat command now
But by clicking the polls at the top of chat whether or not you want to be receiving an envelope of team spider or from team
Crab I can confirm that when chat reverts on their decision from team spider back to team crab
We always pulled the best prizes. So there we go. Yeah, give up saying
come from
There's no way the crabs have the better gifts
I'm just saying, what happens if you toss all of the spider ones and it's just crabs left?
Oops, all crabs.
Oh look, I was there whilst Medic and Jordan were placing these in the envelopes and I saw that they actually stuffed the majority of the boosts and whatnot into the crabs one, so just saying.
Doesn't sound like what I heard. I heard quite the opposite and when I did a spider one yesterday that was a stream like Excel.
Damn, little fairness all of them, wonderful prizes.
We could have done a bit like what was that game show where you had to open up the the boxes? Oh
God deal or no deal or no deal. No Edmunds, but the mythic boost is in one of the boxes
The banker calls up, but he's like I'll offer you
All right, I'm offering you curve right now. Yeah, you get your curve. Oh
You just lost the full mythic you get two out to have a
Yeah, on normal. Oh, you get a delve by yourself. I like that with a viewer. That would be really cool.
So do vote, get your things in Team Crab or Team Spider. Please no exclamation mark.
I haven't in chat just yet. Doing so may make it so you can't properly join in on the thing.
So yes, what was that? Sorry chat chat has been punished for their spam boozle.
So it's been to place your votes on the poll.
You're in email only for a moment because it chill your boots.
Yes, so if you would now spam Blalatath, I'm not sure if you can spam that can you in a
more early mode? It's a it's a seven. Oh it's a special one. It's a special one. Blame Twitch
and Team Spider have won. Congratulations Team Spider. Um well in which case if you'd like to fan them out.
Oh yeah. You know what I'd be learning to do legitimately with the cards I can do the full
no way riffle a riffle shuffle a riffle a riffle I can't do it with these not hard enough but
um what you'd like with a normal with a normal um deck of cards cool i could i
i watched a youtube video on how to do it it's really easy and about half an hour
later i could do it it's a great way of destroying a otherwise lovely set of
cards uh yes thank you very much this is going to be my choice so chat
this is what you have earned it is drama please
oh snap we have got from the echo merch store a jersey nice these are the
jerseys these are the jerseys it's actually that one this is the jersey
yeah it's got one of the older jerseys on so if you do want to give yourself a
jersey from the echo merch store get a command in chat which should be
provided to you shortly I assume it's gonna be exclam spider which it is so
type that in once and once only. Make sure it is ready now so you can do that right now.
Make sure you only type it in the once and make sure that you've also got your, what's
it called, DM's open so we can message you, okay?
Yeah, it's very important.
Well, that's happening. Mythic is after this boss kill. So me and Al are going to go on
that refresh for a second. You guys should get ready because we've all been waiting
all day. It's two o'clock in the afternoon here in Cologne, Germany.
journey and mythic is about to get underway they are going in it's gonna
be great so let's have a little listen in with wave and we'll be back with you
ready for mythic and a call watching your feet soon and you are getting a
rooted soon gather up plates and then new circles coming like you go to the
range on the next one watch the world markers circles to the world markers
two minutes to many people in melee in the circle without triggering it
should watch it's urine stuff
yeah can go go
what never mind
probably midi AMZ flicks ankle to him and use another little passy for the
boys
yeah watch the feed watch the feed oh my god
is there more in the melee?
yeah apparently okay so strike back to melee and frago you join melee as well
link them
You shouldn't need to do it, we're gonna get three stacks if you do this now. Watch your feed.
And it's coming again. Break these routes quick, then pre-spread and the warp marker's coming up.
You break these routes and then another set of circles. You see the warp markers?
Pre-spreading a bit and the circles for the warp markers. Break them out, they're far.
Break them out, keep them alive. Okay, you can rest there.
Yeah, all ranged need to go far back there, only ranged, so go use personal as well.
Triggered late, wait, who the fuck triggered that?
I think.
Use everything, just get ANZ, rally, use everyone to die.
Yeah, I mean, who just didn't get to...
How did we not break the website?
I was maybe one step too far out, but normally they just evaporate.
I can move the boss more if I have more space for them to move.
He's alive, good guy.
4 ANF is too strong.
Line up is very good.
Wait, this is real muscle bro.
What?
Bets is crush.
Yeah, it's real muscle bro.
It's a real one.
What are you gonna do with it?
It's time to do this every wave 5 seconds.
Bro, I wish, yeah, like next year, I'm gonna play here.
Just to go with this.
Putting new feasts.
Yeah, that's what we need right now, let's see this.
I mean, you're here.
I'm alright.
Fuck it, let me in. I'm coming.
I'm done.
I'm in a little extreme for something.
I popped a disc.
I'm done.
You had the chance, yeah?
Scribe to your critters on discs, but you left a bench.
Got it.
We need a mastery.
What is the build time room?
4, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
ok this is the one boys
watching our feet
and moving
Fraggo you always been melee from now
in fact
Macyn also go melee
cause we have 4 stacks here
the ward markers
in the circle
2, 1, go go
Go go, Revejari, Clicks to Link, Macyn back up.
Back to ranged Macyn.
Watch the blobs guys, roll mechanics.
I'm watching feet now, go go, move.
Think I might be behind.
Doing the roots now.
Break out your friends.
Vortemark is coming up.
And, Hercules to the Vortemarks, go go.
It's ready in the circle.
And go go, we got it.
Bull Life Rally, mini-Amsi, and Ryzen will rule it.
Watch feed now, watch feed.
And sign, don't need to rest.
Roots coming, two times in a row, Roots.
First this, blade stand, and the Roots again.
Get close, that'll get through the paradox.
Breaking out these fasts into circles again.
Look at the world markers, pre-spreading of it,
to the world markers now.
One on purple.
Yeah, good job.
Good movement there, purple.
Watch the web plates after the web plates,
give them the circle now.
Quick.
Don't trigger it.
And trigger.
Back to AMZ.
Boris tank rally, use the ANGTO to him,
and use the GGBASN.
Pushing the pull in now in three, two, one.
Then we watch the blob waves.
Blobs coming out of the boss.
Right in the middle of the building.
Holy Chris.
second wave
And you will get pulled in during the third personal big personal listen
Hey getting pulled in three big personal now two one
What am I going I'm gonna for a guess
You are
You go
For the non-times
No, no, thank you
near second
one two three is red
get ready for the knock now get ready for the knock now don't get killed
it doesn't matter if you're in the wrong side
okay cross side
yeah i know i know those do matter
cross side watch the pull in don't get pulled in into the line coming now dodge the line
green side don't get pulled off and watch the line after you land quickly dodge
I'm very getting alright I got the cross don't get full off never rest my
first right rest me now watch the spiders
rise and then please do the first spells
cross side the spelling green side holding person also everyone but the
mz you can sell the green side the spelling that's it watch the pull in
And now again don't die, okay going directly for the big ad, don't say we despise too
much yet, watch the purple orcs and cleave nicely now, stun these skitters, watch the
purple orcs still, keep interrupting, watch the purple orcs spawning again, last purple
orcs as you go to the next place, go to the next platform, okay now you're pumping
for like 20 seconds doing nothing else during this phase helper friends you'll
have yeah just place one portal always closer to middle and one far away okay
that's the main thing there will be a markers up now first gathering on green
ranged ranged is gathering on green and then watching your feet now you're
gonna dodge this range now now if you get the shackles you go through the
boss ahead of us to the ward markers these further work yeah shackles to the
work markers now go Boris thank you dad's you stack up that's fine pop a
personal if you have shackle one more okay now please spreading a little bit
focusing the shackles and one portal close one portal fire what markers are
up purple is a close one and blue is fine
Okay, we won't cut out anymore.
Load of shit.
Alright, now watch these orbs and get closer to the portals.
Or the inner one, and you're going to soon take it, not yet.
Don't get pulled into it by mistake.
Now taking it and then spreading.
Take and spread.
Alright, I'm watching the blades under you.
Then the same thing, just faster.
Gathering near green, he's going to come out.
Or cross.
That's the only shit.
Or green.
Or the short one.
I'm a bit ahead with the boss. Can bring the boss a bit back please.
What's your field range? Then go through the boss with the shackles and move the boss a bit back.
Thank you. Control the spiders and then kill the spiders and kill the shackles after.
Pop the mains easy. I mean kill the ads just to be safe. Kill the ads. You can do it but
it's too risky. I don't want it. Kill the ads. Now we're going to pre-spread while killing
these interrupt them as well going forward and one portal will go close one going far
kill the far ranged out please pick up the essences after and stay alive with them
watch the orbs don't die get ready to take the portal taking now treading and killing boss
awesome. Okay. What a kill. Do we need him? I mean just mainly curious as was the thing.
Okay. I got a ring warp on this. Did you get a weapon? One hand? Or no? Yes. Yes. Okay.
It brings one hand. That's good. The weapon hand is pretty good. Nice. He doesn't really
need to ring yet normal okay yeah I mean of course nice right but yeah there we
have it queen answer it going down and ideally unless you just heard something
that we did it that's the end of it there goes queen answer it's some good
strength item shopping or so 100 acts that he could use maybe a plate wrist as
well but welcome back to the race to world first we are in day two of the
mythic in the narrow bar palace and we are working on the fifth boss a blue
twister we've had a few pulls we haven't really done a whole lot of it today
mainly gearing up because of liquid of course all of yesterday 80 pulls on the
fifth boss doing their best to get it down still a lot of work to be done it
seems that it's no joke echo have taken that seriously in a gearing up the
best they can at Mike please please say that you misheard I did think I
I thought I heard Scribe say, do we need to do a normal?
No.
But we'll see.
Perfecto will be, that run was for Perfecto to finish out his DK.
My bigger concern is one thing we talked about earlier,
is it was talking to the boys who are not in the split,
they were chilling in the kitchen,
they're getting snacks and stuff ready
because they're going to mythic.
They've had the message, they are going to mythic,
but they're like, a little worried we're overcooking this
because they're not deep into the fight yet
with what they're doing.
So he said earlier, it's like,
How much do you want to prepare for this as opposed to let us slam and see what's going on and see where our problems are?
So a little concern maybe if some of the cooking, oh he can't get in.
Oh it's Raid, one of the two.
Raid team might prevent him from going to the normal dungeon.
Recently he's going to the dungeon because Alliance and Horde can't trade in the overworld.
Because that's the thing.
So they have to go to a dungeon to do trades for loot that they both got.
I'll summon him back to the raid
I'll summon him back to the raid, yeah
So you'll have to do the first place
He's the one that left the raid
You know, Phyllis is quite normal for them to do all their trades in the Rukiri
But obviously this time around if it's just for perfect or mainly just for perfect
So that obviously he's gonna be getting the majority of that loot soon
Oh, I see some mana oils being applied for this upcoming to crush it
Wait, might be a little bit more work to do still
Well, he's probably got to enchant and whatever and configure
But I would just like to give a big shout out to a ring tree. You have won the official echo jersey. My friend
Congratulations, so make sure your twitch DMs are open so we can reach out to you and get all your information
So we can send it to you ring tree
You absolute legend winner of
Rogers a little treasure trove there will have many more of the course
You can see there's something like a hundred envelopes of goodies to give away here. Yeah, at least over 60
That's of my last count lots of this race is dying in two days. Yes
Otherwise we'll be doing lot of delves very, very quickly.
And it's delves.
We're doing more delves than they did on Heroic Week.
Fun times.
They did so many like.
Absolutely fun times.
You weren't here man.
You weren't here.
You don't know man.
I've done my penance.
I've paid my dues over the years.
That is very fair.
Yes.
So I imagine could we just click back to perfect a real quick if possible just to see.
Let us.
There you go.
It's a cab secret surely.
I'd like to see you.
go on production show us perfecto you wouldn't know they wouldn't every time
it is what it is every time the thing is if we did push to talk right now
let's say yeah no show that is immediately dirt oh so you just say the
beat it let's tell them that yeah go for it there we go what the hell dude it's
because they weren't paying attention to us but then when if you push the push
to talk it means everything for them so that oh crap they really need us yeah
Okay, you're fired. Damn it Rasmus. Oh Rages. I see what he got so he's oh
He's very low right now. You can see 611. Well, it's got two 613 weapons
But he did just loot at 619 from the boss
You'll have a 619 set of braces from the boss as well looking at his tear gear the chest will be able to be replaced the
Shoulders as well may haps might go a little bit higher as well of a heroic piece instead
Oh, there's Mini, the DK Cabal is coming together.
They're gonna have a hole.
There we go.
Look at that.
That's a three-set, just traded to him there.
Three-set heroic.
Yep.
Enjoy.
And some off-pieces to go with it.
Waiting for Synth.
But they should be yours.
Not bad when you can get boosted like this.
Not bad, eh?
Well, the boost this way is going to lead to a big boost of DPS for the whole
group.
This is going to be brutal.
You see, you know, Mini and Perfect someone have cracking heads like, where exactly
do we want this? What's the best bit we can then craft on the back of it? All those kind
of things in order to figure out what the best manoeuvre is to make the most powerful
frost decay they possibly can in the next 15 minutes.
Yeah, most hopefully. But whilst that's all going on, the other teams going out of
their way to get to Mythic Plus, get in as much loot as they possibly can and finishing
off those droptomisers basically. Doing a little bit of a sim, seeing what you
you need from Watched Dungeon, and then just slamming them as much as you possibly can.
Yeah, and from Shaman of Alps.
Right, prepare for reset.
I'm looking forward, I'm starting to think that maybe this season of Mythic Plus might
be for me.
I'm liking it.
I'm getting a good vibe from it.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Like, is there a return of things like Necrotic Wake?
You know they nerfed a lot of stuff in here, the spears.
All that kind of stuff doesn't do what it used to do.
Well, I never really did Necrotic Wake.
I never did much of Shadowlands at all.
Because I had...
Ah, that's how you're okay with it.
I had taste.
That's it.
That's what I had.
I could see the way the winds were blowing, they were blowing straight down into the
moor which I didn't want to spend my time in but um the dungeons at least I watched
quite a lot of empty eyes and things of the challenge looked awesome in terms of
some of the cool runs. There was some very cool stuff you could do in here like
there was some very fun moments you could set up with the javelin spear
if you certainly when you go up into the ziggurat is you could pull
everything and just spear right through it or you can chain a couple of spears and wipe out massive amounts of trash
In a matter of seconds. There's a lot of routing you can do in here. Actually, whether you want to go left, right?
They've actually moved a lot of mobs around now
Based on what was happening in the MDI like where were people regularly skipping? Alright, let's change that bit
Which bit was annoying where there was a there's a pillar and I assume these guys might do as well
Which was a very normal skip which also caused pets if somebody didn't dismiss them to pull a bunch of trash and cause wipes
They've moved that around. They have disabled things like the Covenant buffs like this robot
You can activate if you were Curian and get a nice...
They did that for turn aside, but not on the Mythic Zero
Yes, on the Mythic Zero you can still get a lot of good stuff if you had a character that was still alive
Mushrooms are still there, I think
Are they still there?
Yeah, the mushrooms are still there
Because you could turn off, you know, some of the mobs that were like the sort of
Lieutenant-style mobs in the packs. You could like
Make them go to sleep or something
There was a very weird one in there
I think if you were Ardenweald is that you could you only got the res checkpoint if you had someone in there
Yeah, that's after the third boss. Yeah, very weird decision because one of the biggest complaints a lot of people have about me
If it was just rumbax not fun. I don't find as I think I don't know what it is, but wow generally
just
awful checkpoints in raids as well awful like um, I don't know like in the
Is it fun to have to remember to put a soul stone on a healer before Paul and then just mass res anyway?
In theory it should allow you a brief moment of discussion so you're like okay
We need to correct this and do this and this but often that's not actually the case
In terms of what happens silly with a lot of games moving away from that even PoE
The PoE2 is a band and idea you checkpoint right next to the boss
You can literally you die to the boss you spawn next to the boss. It's just kind of respecting your time a bit
Mm-hmm, you know with a raid there's 20 of years if you're doing a mythic raid
Haven't spent five minutes running back because someone forgot to put a warlock gateway and a warlock
Soulstone or maybe that soulstone was used during the fight because you wanted to do it properly. Yeah, so it went wrong
Crazy talk out. I don't know at least they almost guys aren't we celebrating?
They've almost got rid of the food buff shenanigans almost you can now get a food buff that persists through death
That is cool.
It's close.
We're almost there with it just not being a thing.
But you don't want food buffs at all?
Yeah, but of course.
But I like the way other games do it,
where you just have it for like two hours.
But that's it regardless of what happens to you guys.
You don't like to eat after you eat.
Oh, it's so annoying.
Getting a little food in.
Yeah, even every hour is kind of annoying.
But it's much, much better now.
So I think you have to stick five feasts together
and then you get the one that persists through there.
So at least that's going on easing off, I will say.
seems to be a happy middle ground. Did you have that last expansion as well with the um
embellish? Yes. Well it was a fair, it didn't even count towards your embellish cap did it?
Yeah I was doing it which was very nice. Exactly, they were only lived through death.
Oh he's tippy-toe don't they? Yeah. Yeah I think the idea being is that um you know
it's one way of doing it that instead of the food like it's say you're expecting to die 10 times
an hour um in order for the cooks out there to get the same amount of money they would need to
make the food 10 times more expensive right because you're going through 10 times less of it
So I guess there's some economic reasons but in terms of a gameplay perspective totally with you
I'd rather just get my buffs up. I think it's kind of cool
Like there's something nice about completing your character and as you're going into combat applying all of these things
There's something I draw the line of oils not a fan of that extra one. I'm happy with flasks food
Potioning yep, okay with that. It's a got a little silly certainly
I don't you know you went around in the bed and crusade where we have like special flasks and special potions
You can only get from certain zones and they don't stack so you could have multiple
Elixirs on you at the same time. So if you really want to you could wear like 12. Oh, right
Okay, so you've been potion sacking all the way back then as well might
To the point we have to dedicate herbalists
For the main tank what for one person for one guy. Yeah, because I will herbalist
I mean chat will probably remember any of the old schools there
I'm pretty sure you could have an elixir of stats elixir of HP and elixir of armor elixir of
Agility and elixir strength. Oh my good. And they all stacked and you could keep going so you get elixir of healing power
Oh, I remember healing power. Yeah healing power was a separate one as well. And then you could have seeds
Food buff and then there was another scroll that's kept kept and the bosses hit so hard in the early gear
Like you certainly do you think of hiking mogul or gruel?
They hit very very hard is that every pole and they would all disappear after we pull. They didn't
Oh my God. See that's a real enemy. We did we had two dedicated herbalists that were just feeding the main tank for consumables
That's too much. Yeah, they changed it. I think about six months in something like that. Fair play. Yeah, it was just bad
It'll find us like back then the whole the whole game was a little bit janky, but we obviously moved in the correct direction
There's always room for improvement though. I'm sure there's as players
We will always find something to complain about but you say much out of it
Well, that show us
Yeah, it was all a bit of blur. It was just a bad time. So, I mean obviously we're talking about bosses
You loved earlier like operator Thogar. Yes. Hell yeah, I did stolling journals my favorite fight
My favorite fight. Oh my god, nothing but fond memories
Looking back at that fight is like looking into the jaws of death. I did learn we haven't had another
Fiesta like that. I don't know. I'm kind of curious for your perspective
perspective like obviously we're looking at
Scribe and Roger and Potter all cooking together to come up with a strategy for this unkilled boss as of yet
But as a raid a long time raid leader at that very high world level yourself. What was the worst one excluding the generals?
Just cooked why was it Jaina artifices? I mocks was also incredibly crap that tier
There was just the thing is there's a lot of average boss sat here, which are fine
There was a couple of good bosses such as side and athreus as well as what they've got
I liked the sludge frist.
The sludge frist was great.
I actually liked the one with the canisters.
That was a half bang.
I liked that.
That was fun.
It wasn't hard, but we had to like do the connect the dot thing.
It's cute.
Why not?
One thing, but yeah, there's some real stinky fights
in that instance.
I have no idea why.
They were just not fun.
They were just poopy.
Zymox being one of them.
Zymox could have been the coolest boss in there,
teleporting around, setting up your own portals,
dancing around with all the ads.
But it was like if you pull the boss and you
transition at 140, then the fight's infinitely harder
if you did it at 141 and I couldn't work out when that was and when I could work out when it was
we could never hit the timer correctly so I sat there I was just like portals are coming in
then eight seed spawn I'm like I just want to die um so yeah they they really I don't know they
they just love spell curing that tier Jaina was also so bad Jaina I learned a lot about like because
that was only my second tier properly raid leading and I was still learning lots and Jaina Jaina
taught me lots about um what the best thing to do is when you're struggling on certain fights
Because it's easy as a player to identify sometimes you're in a fight and you just kind of suck it.
I've done that before, I've done it before, and for whatever reason I can't read it properly.
So there's something about the animations or something about the flow of the fight that just doesn't click
and I'm trolling, I've just sat there and I'm completely inting.
Being able to identify when other people are struggling in that way and trying to assist them as a raid leader.
Saying, what are you actually struggling with, let's get to the bottom of this, between raids as an example.
see if you can pull them aside.
Or if push comes to shove and you've got a large enough
roster, it's like, I'm sorry, you're really, really struggling.
It might be best if we do a little swap here, just
for this particular Marcia.
It's a tough little thing, but it's
quite hard when the raid gets split, if you're leading.
So I was doing a little bit of leading.
I haven't done that for a while, but I did the viewer raid.
And Anserac splits the raid in two.
Oh, yes.
And that is really frustrating.
It's fine for, like, Scryte and Max and whatever,
because they just click a button,
and they can see the other POV.
but I'm like, the other group's dead.
Why?
What?
You're entirely right.
Yeah, I do just like, and then the answer is like,
Paul or something, and you're like,
well, all of you, that doesn't make any sense.
And then this happened, this happened.
It's like trying to get to the root of the problem.
Oh, yes.
It's infinitely more difficult, especially not liking.
Oh, it's the candlestick.
It seems incredibly high, but it's kind of troll.
Quick, wick, candlestick,
mage be nimble, mage be quick,
mage invoke the power of the candlestick.
Thank you for going back
So I could finish the rhyme there, Gingy.
Very kind.
Mike, of course, listening in on the stream
on the other monitor.
I was more remembering, hopeful over dinner,
we were eating earlier and hopeful was like,
I haven't got the candlestick.
Bait.
It's bait as hell.
I didn't the transmitter's bait.
Do you want me to do the little dance for it
or whatever, you have to collect your hopes or
do the jump and all that?
Do the jumps, I don't know,
I don't know, I don't think everyone
looks great on paper, but I think it's probably trolling.
what is the i would say i forgot the name again we were all talking over dinner
about the but the but the but the but the biggest bait trick ever it was that one
from uh...
works pension
it was the bush i want to put it
all you would have done because it was it's a lot of quantum
yet
that uh...
that gave you a similar to ten thousand dps however
most occasions it just gave a healer like you do you know you know you
quantum device something quantum device and it just the description of it was
just question mark and you're like dude so yeah it's a very cute trinket based on
the theory you know you could give like a check to a bunch of conditions and it
would do things based on the condition like a healer needed man out if there
was someone really long health and all those yeah so but if you didn't have
any of those things it gave you a massive DPS buff yes I think a lot of
week or as we're made to check whether it's possible to press him trickly or not.
Oh cringe.
Yep.
Of course it was the correct thing to do as a healer.
Going into a pool, quickly spam all your heals to go into the fight with 10k mana.
Have every single boomkin in the world just get infinitely out.
You don't actually, you don't want to piss off your boomkins as a healer.
If you want to get those, innovates.
It's more the case of how can we make the wow community more toxic?
Let's make it so that people do less damage because the healer healed them.
Yeah.
Right?
But it's just sort of a choose situation to be in is like stop healing me.
I need to use my DPS trinket.
Like the entire premise is so obnoxious.
It's very funny.
Yeah.
It's hilarious.
And I'm sure that other devs make it like.
I'm surprised at how they continue to make new trinkets.
after all of these years coming up with new and unique designs obviously we have
quite a lot of triggers that are like it's a step off have fun but like how you
get those step off sometimes with such as the treacherous transmitter where you
gotta do this silly little mini game I think is really quite cute. Well someone I
have it gives you main stat but sometimes it'll give you a lower stat. Yeah
prox sometimes so it's a huge stat stick that when it prox actually gives
you a negative effect so you want it to not proc during your CDs and things
It's a cute idea. I don't actually like the design personally. I'd hate for it to proc during my
CDs as an example. So especially it's like haste or something. It's like, oh, and now I'm traveling
through mud. Yes. Thanks very much. But I'm very strong. I'm very strong traveling through the mud.
I mean, to be fair, like you said, they probably do trinkets, but the descriptions are getting
longer. We're going to get like Tolkien trinkets coming up in this chapter one. One day there
There was an attack, a fire-based attack, and on that day, the Merlin's beard burst into
flame, enhancing your haste by 162.
But that's only on the full moon.
If on a crescent moon, divide by two and convert to versatility.
And then, unfortunately, yes, an arse ghoul spawned over in Revendreth.
You will be teleported to Revendreth randomly once per month!
Imagine you're triggered, proxies just get ported out of the raid!
What the hell?
Dude, at some part I didn't go on a flight path last week, so I'm getting teleported now.
Someone summon me back.
Nice mysteries.
Who's that guild?
They sound like portes.
Damn, look at that.
622.5.
That is a one.
Chunky! Chunky character right there.
We'll see them over 621 average.
What's Perfecto at now? He's doing his upgrades.
621 on hopeful.
Yeah.
Very nice there.
Cannex out of interest. Can we have a look?
Perfecto's buying all these goodies.
Okay, that was a bad look.
No, not looking at the Bint!
Not looking at the Bint!
Oh, I want to be clear that it's not Cannex.
It's not Cannex's fault.
It's his class.
It's Blizzard.
It's Blizzard.
Don't blame the class blame blizzard always blame blizzard. Yes, bad Ian bad
Now 621 frag out damn
That is a huge. Yeah, they've all done sent the weapons
lot of 636 weapons. Yeah, I think it would go on for a lot of crafted weapons this time around
619 or 618 equips
18.8 so a minis kind of poor not that one of the sad things is that they have of course I've gone for a 636 weapon
But it's any one hander. Yeah, so a little bit rough unfortunately to the dual-wielding nature of that class
He's not shopping the waitrose
No, that's not a big market. I'll be for the best
That's what that is sad time now. He's looking at perfect. I know there's a higher item level than him
Well, whilst they are getting all of their characters together, I think it might very well be worth
shouting out all of the wonderful donations that you guys have been sending in.
We've got even more here.
And I've been reading them out.
You happy for me to keep doing something?
Would you like to do something?
The ones I haven't checked?
They're less defensive to me.
I actually haven't checked them, I promise.
Okay.
All right.
Here we go.
And this is all, of course, for games, for love, providing entertainment and education
to kids in the hospital that are trapped there and falling behind on life in general
and trying to get them back up to speed it's a wonderful wonderful cars that
were supporting this one so memes aside you guys are amazing and it's
so good uh what you're doing for people globally yes for the children
uh following the spare coffee donation let's make some kids happy
deal absolute deal thank you doctor rock and roll right thank you very very
much who's this trick peck poos
Okay, hey Mike you will not out swole me eat that cake
Deal actually because he's like a national bench press champion. Oh snap. There we go and poor
Oh, he's gonna come around here talking all that noise you better respect it coming back
Osni roll. What's up brother? Thank you so much for the big $10 he do's
I really like the echo uses their exposure to donate to a charity wholesome dude at this point for real
with you guys and all the race will first we've done it's two hundred and
like ten thousand dollars insane how much we've raised therapy all that
puchins talk to me oh for real bros if we hit 40k this race I know it looks a
while off but we've got a lot of race left to go if we hit 40k and I have to
eat all that cake it's a quarter of a million dollars that has gone out to
provide therapy, help for children, saving lives. That's what we do.
Oh yeah. Of course, Mike eating one entire cake per $10 sent in.
Delicious. Dude, what? Yeah. That's what we agreed on the
break, right? You said you would.
From a non-emuse. Nice. $3 coming in here is a high
preach. Hello. It's me. I'm still waiting on those big toe
hairs I paid very very heftily for and you promised to send me kisses Alex it's
anonymous I think you'll find oh aka Krusha oh yeah very nice I didn't know
you were into those things sounds very Danish okay damn from Patrick my man
what is a Patrick uh today learned that Mira is an ice-share of Earth they you
Do you have to go to you as well? Allow me to do a good deed of mine and help the kids
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Yep, they just won't go on the stream. It's not like they're ultimately put up
And nobody wants to see them. No, we all have toes. We're good. Really? We all do. Can you imagine dude? Weird.
Might have just like, um...
Just like, smooth to age.
It's just like, it's like I was molded out of plastic. Oh my lord
What they're so cute no look at them. We just want to give them a little squeeze
Little beans did you love beans Mike?
Do you know like a dog no it looks like a cat
Mike what do you have a soul?
And if so, what happened to a lovely cute fluffy doggy soul?
filled with the hatred of demonic nightmares that is cats catacoup they
are cute when they shred you to pieces because you want to play with them is
what it is hopefully we'll see that and Zalatath's obviously influence over
mythic plus the orbs that spawn do block the hook from hitting this boss
Oh for God's sake. Of course they do. Of course they do.
What do you think of this whole way that they're doing with the plus now?
Way better. I mean I need to play it. Yes I haven't played it yet either.
Oh it almost happened! It almost happened!
That is baller. I thought it was really interesting that obviously
there's a lot of like mechanics where oh there's this hard thing but if you deal
with it you get a bonus from it well done you know like you've successfully dealt
with the orbs and you get this bonus if you manage to stop the orbs from reaching an ad
you get this crit or whatever. But as soon as you reach 10 isn't it? Or above? You still
need to deal with the negative aspect of it but there is no reward anymore. Which I think
is really kind of cool in a way. It's better than what it was. Well with like Sanguin and
Oh awful. Like I don't know. I haven't asked to be honest but I don't know what
the philosophy is that the modifications to Mythic Plus should always be negatives.
And there's no reason to be excited about Mythic Plus other than it's the least offensive Mythic
Plus week. Yeah, that's what it used to be for sure. Yeah, I don't get that mentality. Instead
of being like, oh dude, it's like Double Haste Week, or it's like Extra Melee, or it's Multi-Strike
Week. Oh, Multi-Strike. Right? If we had Multi-Strike Week, that'd be so fun. I'd be like,
I can't wait to play my Warlock, I can't wait to play my Mage, or whatever, and we get a lot of multi-strike, or something like that, or maybe you get like shadow versions of yourself, some positive, that's really fun, on top of something negative, right, so there is a counter to it, something to be excited about.
Yeah, like I still think tyrannical and fortified are very strange choices considering now you always get both of them.
It's like why do either of them exist then?
You should just be baited into the key level.
Yeah, it's just harder.
Not only were they the most boring affixes, if you were playing on a low level you barely
even noticed, but all it did was just make it so some of the higher keys were just impossible
depending on the week.
Now, if you have both of them active at all time, they are basically non-affixes.
It's like the most pointless thing to me in the world.
Perfecto.
650.
I don't think he's got all of it.
Oh, here we go.
We're looting some stuff now though.
616 636 weapon there on perfecto. I think he just looted something else as well
Yeah, this is an air comes the upgrade sending the crests
Let's have a look
He's got to have a little bit of a thing so it's a mini about it
Complicated in the race to a really don't screw up 617. That's not all oh
Hold, hold, hold.
It's crazy how complicated they take it.
It's not for the rest of us.
We're just gonna send whatever, right?
But in a race, well first,
every scrap matters that an incorrect decision here
can actually be very costly.
Yes.
So it is imperative that they get the pieces right,
which is why you've got many in there as well.
Like, are we sure on this one?
Yes.
Spoken through each and every upgrade.
Yeah, they'll be sending back some back and forth.
Like, what do you think of this one?
This one, this one,
we've got this limited amount of crests.
We can craft this, we can do that.
This has got good stats, yeah, Crit Mastery, that's good.
So we probably want to send that, Haste Mastery probably don't want to send that, this is,
you know, we can do this one.
617.25.
He's not all bad, and he's still got 14.6.
Damn.
Those aren't too bad on the Trinkets either.
Oh, he's just sending it.
618.
This is a pretty good looking character right now.
Yeah, the offhand is the one that's dragging him down a little bit.
It is, unfortunately, he doesn't seem to have the crest on the character at the
moment whether or not he's already spent all of them or he just has yet to go and gather them it's
something that we do not know. Cape is kind of lame. Cape is a little low, you're right so the shoulders
not necessarily the best running 6'10 on the shoulders. Yeah obviously his counterparts now
including RL 6'20 ish, Mini I think was about 6'18 as well. The thing is is that the way that
the Frosty Ks were performing on this fight from the look of Liquid even if they are like
like one or two items was lower I think you're still gonna want to bring them there the way that
their damage came out was quick yeah their reaper's mark on this fight is just heaven it's
absolutely heaven they're consistent cleaving anyway you're keeping that remorseless winter you're
constantly just doing natural cleave damage all the time which is what you want in the big spiders
you don't want to be hard focusing on this it's an absolutely necessary portion of the fight
you want to be pouring into the boss because the boss has all the health uh so where are we
618 and a half? Yeah I think he can get to 619 with a couple of last minute upgrades. I think he
might have run out of valisones so might be quickly popping over to pick up some bits and pieces.
Oh he might even have PvP gear. Yeah? He's even got some of the PvP gear to be grabbing.
Transferring honour. Damn. There's so many different systems I don't know what's going on
anymore. Yeah now we can go here, we can do that. This is what they need. They need to
know every source to make the correct decisions. It's too much. It's a lot. Like the crafting
system alone, did you? I saw a write up this morning of somebody who returned to the game.
I had friends come back because it was like, yo, the story is really good. The gameplay
is rock solid. Got my friends back in and then they tried the crafting system. I don't
understand it. And it just exploded. Yeah, it's very, the thing is, I don't even
necessarily think it's like, you know, there's a lot of people that do enjoy the system.
It's just a very dense system.
It reminds me of the way that you first interact with POE to a lesser extent, obviously, in
this game.
Oh yeah, but with POE the weeds, I just open up POE, I pop in and I'm just like, whoa,
I always wanted to do Final Fantasy upside down, Final Fantasy X Fiercrid on crack.
That's a great game made.
Oh snap, it looks like we might actually be jumping into Brutus and Fraggo having
a quack in on a blood decay.
I thought that means that I think we might be seeing our boy
The one and only the druid master the one that we're being so cruel to canyx even potentially making his way into the raid
It's got to be nice means right
What nice means on what? Oh vengeance. Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna be triple DK. They're dead triple tank. Oh, that is canyx. Oh
Canyx tanking. Yeah damn. Okay, so it's canyx mirrors and nice memes triple tank
and we're having triple frost decay I guess?
Damn.
Is Robin going DPS?
I think Robin's going DPS.
We're not sending the narco signal?
I don't know.
Maybe narco's character is premature.
It might be.
We don't call narco until the end of the raid.
That is true.
Any time that you do summon narco in for a boss,
there is a chance that he does disappear for the rest of the tier.
And he has already been in.
He came in on boss two.
He did.
So bloodbound guy.
So much bloodbomb, guy.
You have a spin boy.
The spin blood guy.
Spin blood boy.
Yes, very much so.
OK, Roger, try to justify his decisions.
Oh, mate.
Skrub's like, sure, Roger, sure.
Yeah, so the laundry will be OK.
So listen, Skrub, what I'm saying is all we need to do
is we need to get this in there and it'll work, OK?
We take 500 DKs and then we kill everything, OK?
We get 500 DKs and we crush them into a nice soup
And we feed it to Narko for him to do as much damage as possible.
Look at all the decays he want, won't you?
Yeah.
If a raid being made though, hopefully we have been um...
What feels like on the edge of our seats this entire day.
Show me a comp production. It's somebody who's got frames up.
Hmm... maybe...
Oh! Meres! Meres is somebody pretty good.
Does he normally just have things in the way?
There's no way we're going quad decays.
Because it is mad if we are not bringing Narko because he's as gear. I don't even know what Narko's DK is looking like.
Narko. Oh, there he is.
It's about to get cold in Naruba, our boss, baby! It's about to get real cold!
Okay, so if we're going with this right now, it looks like we're going for a triple tank comp,
melee blast. We're doing two enhancement shamans,
Four Frosty case, two Fury Warriors, no cost stacking by the way, push on his rogue, we've
got Soul on the Hunter, I imagine M.M., maybe it'll be hilarious if it was otherwise, but
I don't think he's got two.
He's going to be M.M.
He's going to be M.M.
Yeah, frag on Org.
Hold on.
What?
Healer is...
Have we got Fanna doing rat?
What?
Where are we?
Who?
What's going on?
Is Fanna going to Fanna?
us are we bringing the whole we're bringing the judgments that is playing
red six she's like 619 in red what it this is about the most zuggzook echo
comp I have seen in years this is full smart this is full ridiculous this is
full making no sense did it make sense it does make sense all the ads are gonna
run to them oh Jesus Christ we are full zuggzook that mage is feeling very
much like hold on so that's so right now who's the wallock we must have one wallock they're
not going wallockless um oh is it wolf disco they're doing uh it's over there we go it's
very well wolf disco out then wolf at the moment looking on the multi view is currently not in
the very to right interesting wolf of course got a very good warrior very good uh wallock but
but imagine he's not as good as Revers or Wool.
This is life.
This is a very funny bomb.
There's no way this is not the comp that kills this boss.
I'm telling you.
You're telling me they're gonna change it?
What would you do to improve it?
I think in theory, they're just going to try it.
You think it's too much ad damage?
That's so passive, right?
All the DK ad damage is gonna be passive.
The warrior stuff is kind of passive with that burst.
They just love it.
The rats are doing single target and burst.
because she's straight single target for the most part the major single target
it's actually passive this is just the most passive cleave zugzug don't come
near me or will murder you build just the weirdest thing about this comp is there's
only one hook everything about this makes sense oh man yes we have got right
he smells the mythic he smells the night lovers we are joined by GTF on the
Anas Desk, your thoughts as you've now seen this come to fruition?
Well, they certainly spent long enough cooking it. You had to assume something
crazy was coming out of the oven. They've been working on this
all morning, working on spreadsheets, timelines, comp, building
the classes they needed to, with Mythic Plus getting perfecto gear on his frost death knight.
It's a shocking comp. A lot of swaps, not only are we three taking, but Robin's
not one of them so that he can go on his death knight and play frost. We're healing, but not
with one of the main healers is playing ret, you know, wild things happening here.
And I think you're right that this will not be the comp that ends up killing the boss,
but it's a science-based approach to figure out what can happen based on what they've
seen from the liquid pulls to see if this will be good enough to kill the adds, because
like we talked about, the scary part of this fight is ad control.
The loss damage on them, it multiplies out of control very, very rapidly, so we'll
have to see if this takes care of it.
This feels like a parasite first comp, because with all this passive and burst cleave, they
should be able to annihilate the parasites every single spawn wave without issue, and
then maybe move...
Worms last seems to be like the wise approach.
That is one thing that of course Liquid did on what their most successful pull of the
night, right towards the very end, starting with those parasites, because it's something
that they can control.
The additional health going on to such a few mobs, and you've got such a great
You might think of course going worms next a 50% health increase for the giant spiders versus the kind of medium-sized worms
You're like yeah, of course that's gonna be overall less damage
You need to deal but the worms require so much focus because you really can't have them up for too long
Because otherwise they're kicks go through the secret nightmare
Yeah worms are not a big deal in fact from on heroic
You generally like ignore the worms to last because they don't require much interrupting
They're out the way you just drag the boss over there when you're ready and just kill them and ignore the parasites are way worse
And so the bigger spiders that do a lot of tank damage, but in this way is far reverse
They require so much attention. So if we were to say let's look at this objectively, right? They've got this smoky zug-zug build
Where is the big disadvantage? What I'm seeing is
They're gonna have to spread for worms. So the melee is gonna have to leave the clump
To be at worms when the worms are separated because they can't be moved
So yes, you could drag the boss on top of Wyrm A, but they're gonna have to move Genji and Sola interrupts too long to deal with them.
The shamans could maybe get away with it though.
Yeah, like you will certainly have ranged players dealing with the ranged worms, and the idea is I hope that there's just at such a cluster of giant damage underneath the boss
that anything is there is just gone within a few moments allowing this sort of
Like a whirlwind storm of just AoE cleave just to kind of follow the boss around chewing up any ads that happen to be ground
Into it at the same time. I think that's the kind of play of the comp, right?
It's just a get under the boss and grind about that's a full meat grinder real a real Cinderella story though for cannex
Because he just wrote it so bad, but he comes back in on the Guardian
Who was thinking the cannecks would be tanking on a garden druid on the fifth boss?
What's going on?
This tier is shaping out to be a very, very confusing time as indeed they are heading themselves
in, starting to clear the trash towards Brood Twister.
Maybe as we're heading our way over there, Jesse, I don't know if maybe you can walk
us through, maybe some of the changes that we're expected to see on this fight for
those who are brand new to the mythic version of this encounter.
Yeah, so we have two things to show you.
First of all, is this lovely graphic demonstrating changes going from heroic to mythic on Brutwister
Ovenax.
What we thought was going to be a big deal, but isn't as much a big deal in light of how
difficult the ads are, is that instead of on heroic and normal, where one person with
a circle around them can pop an egg, you need two to overlap on the egg in order
to break the egg.
Missing a single egg is a guaranteed wipe, so any of the people marked failing to
to coordinate and go to the correct marker
with their correct partner to pop the correct egg
results in a way.
And that you normally would think
that's a difficult coordination check
and it would be if it weren't for the fact
that the bigger difference is that on mythic,
unlike on a heroic or normal
where you can completely avoid any mutations
on mythic mutations are inevitable
because whenever you go to one of the quadrants
of the room or tridents,
I'm not sure what the room is three,
a sector of the room,
the boss will mutate every ad of the type
that's emphasized in that room.
And we actually put together a little map for you.
Let me see if I can pull this up for you.
Alex and I went through, squinted at a bunch of POVs
in order to, this is the actual egg map of the floor,
relatively close to exactly where each and every egg was.
You can see that each quadrant has eight of the ad
that's emphasized in that area,
and then another five each of the others.
So for example, up here in the spider quadrant,
you have eight big spiders,
and then you have five worms and five gohunis.
Yeah, down at the gohunis sector,
you have eight gohunis eggs,
and then five spiders and five worms and so on.
Really importantly, as we said,
not only, say that we were gonna go
to the spider sector first,
not only would she then mutate all of the spiders
in that sector, that's what that red circle then indicates.
They're actually mutated all throughout the entire room
for the rest of the fight.
So when you choose a sector to go to,
you're choosing which ads you think you can handle
through the entire fight.
When you choose a sector to go last, you're choosing the ones you want to deal with for
the least portion of the fight, but inevitably in the last sector, you're dealing with all
three mutated at the same time.
And that's why they decide, generally speaking, it seems to be the going idea that you do
settle the kahoonies because that's something that you can deal with, hopefully, a bunch
of knockbacks under the boss and just once again that meat grinder allowing them just
to be melted before they even get anything off.
And they do have the least health getting buffed by that 50% scaling.
Yes.
And then afterwards going to the spiders and then to the worm seems to be the way of going
around it at the moment, so on this map that'll be the bottom left and then going round in
a clockwise way.
So it will be interesting because the issue-
Maybe they'll do something different obviously.
Yeah, I'm wondering if with this build actually worms aren't that bad.
Hmm, we'll have to find out.
It's possible, like the worms are obviously very threatening, but your comp actually dictates
what is more dangerous.
And that's- and the big issue we've seen, Liquid have managed to clear all the
eggs relatively cleanly but still is like 23% left on the boss right yeah which is
a lot because it has nine billion HP I think so that's a lot of HP left to go
with no room left to actually deal with the mechanics of the fight anymore I'm
wondering with this build if they actually thought about I'm going you
know what we had a lot of HP to those big spiders and that is damage that is
going elsewhere right you are cleaving you are you know you are hitting
them and doing things to them, which you maybe not ordinarily do, maybe the worms aren't
too bad.
Like mathematically speaking, say that there was the same prio for all ads, then 100% the
spider should be last, right?
That makes the most sense because they have the highest base amount of health, it'll be
increased by 50%.
So numerically speaking, that is certainly something that you can do.
However...
Three tanks, I don't think that's what they're doing.
No.
You wouldn't bring three tanks if you're going to leave the spiders to last.
Yeah, no.
It's another thing that you can do as well.
It depends on, I misread that name that we get in the macro.
One Echo Ass?
I thought you said I Echo Ass.
No, it's his birthday.
Aww. There we go.
But the idea of running three tanks on this fight is mainly because the tank debuff is so hilariously strong if you have low health.
The boss will just slap you for a ton and then put a debuff on you.
And when that debuff expires you do a raid damage based on your missing health
So if you're not fully top-top mythic the raid is going to be in the floor with you
It's going to be a very very sad time
So having that extra tank allowing you to control the spiders and control those ads in a fashion that won't overlap with the debuff
Just makes everything run a little bit smoother
It's not impossible to two tank this but if you two tank it you generally want a four healer and generally speaking tanks are
Doing more damage than the healers are so if you're going to have to run six
support style like roles either tanks or healers then you definitely want to be
throwing as many tanks as you can at it just to increase the amount of damage
that you're dealing but who knows they might be able to if it really comes down
to it refine it down to two tanks three hill we'll find out we'll see other it
let's I mean what we want to see from echo over these next little while here
is then get to the end of the fight that's gonna take some learning they're
gonna make a lot of mistakes there's gonna be assignment swaps does this
even work with like full smock don't know they are to give it quite a few
pulls before they can assess whether this is working out or where the
weakness really shines on what they're doing so it's going to take a little
while to get there and then we might see some refining is the boss even remotely
close to death with this ability you know with this technique by the time I
get to the end if they get to the end of the fight relatively cleanly and
the boss is still got you know over a billion HP is that something they
could just refine via shifting people's damage portions elsewhere which
Echo are phenomenal at doing. They find damage just lost to the aether on occasions and so we'll see
where they go with this because you've seen she's a big old girl and she's ready to tackle Echo and
then she's going to smudge them into the floor pretty damn fast. I'm really looking forward to Echo
getting a new best pull and we can see what their item level is. They have done a lot of work
since they last played yesterday. A lot of crafting of weapons as an example, a lot of mythic
plus, and a lot of upgrading of loot. I don't know, they always somehow manage to smuggle
some power away to be used at a later point, but it does feel that quite a lot of these
characters have sent a lot of what they had in reserve. So interesting to see how close
they are to Liquid as an example, who are 619.7 currently on their very best pool.
Well, I think it'll be the DK's dragging them down, I think.
It will be, yeah.
A lot of them are 621 or above.
It does feel like I'm maybe caught a little bit off guard, perhaps in terms of how strong
DK's run.
How do you predict you might want four DK's?
It's very true.
Very true.
Two's always been too, too many.
I mean, it's like, do we need grip?
Okay.
Tank go blood and it's solved.
Right.
I mean, add control should not be a problem here.
We've got quad slappy hands.
We've got lots of knocks.
We've also got nice beams, mass grip.
If these parasites start running around, something real goofy real quick, all of them are probably
carrying double grips, so that's eight individual grips that they're carrying with them at the
same time.
So yeah, these ads are going to get slapped with this comp.
So yeah, as you can see, the players alreadying themselves up, just getting that last res
Summon in for now, not tanking.
When was the last time we saw now DPSing in a wreck?
I don't think-
I'm not in M plus, but I don't really, I don't know.
We did actually for last year when he was DPS,
wasn't he, wasn't he Rhett, when he left Echo
and went sort of like, not casual,
but he left the race to world first.
I went and joined another guild,
he might not have tanked there, that's right,
I was more thinking the race to world first setting,
not that he's obviously not capable of it,
very, very strong player.
No, notoriously crap player Robin.
Yeah, multi-time NDI champion, the world's first with both liquid and echo, notoriously
kraut, notoriously kraut, pizza-eating at Robin, shockingly bad multi-use player.
The last time I remember him DPSing in a raid, in a race world first, was in the Jaineteer,
when he was a DPS demon hunter for Limit at the time.
I don't know, there we go.
I think that was the last time since then taking.
That's a long time ago.
That was a long time ago.
or Desire or Lore is two expansions ago.
How do you think Canix feels taking into this role?
There is no way in hell Canix came into this race to world first at any point suspecting
he would be tanking on progression.
Well probably not, that is correct, but it's something that every Echo player does on splits
and on farm, doing whatever is necessary in order to make sure that the guild succeeds.
We saw half of this raid either healing or tanking during splits and of course
while he was farming with a plus and doing delts he was in a lot of tankings so
He's comfortable on it, he's ready to go, he's a druid connoisseur with all four specs.
I'm confident that it will go just fine.
And if you ever wanted to see a more strong reason why Ekko made that decision like 40 years ago,
that every player had to be a multi-classer, it was just a requirement of the guild at that point.
You could not be, you know, a one-trick, however, you know, you want to say he's like,
I'm just this, that's just does not fly for moments like this.
Well, you can see, you know, if Perfecto was like, I'm only rogue,
then we'll be missing out on a very very strong player right now because we
wouldn't be able to have him on his DK so there's lots of those sort of elements
that you know you don't want to be losing out on these fantastic players you
know if they're just a little bit restricting themselves in playing other
classes. An interesting tier for this to happen you don't see this big of a
shake-up usually on a progression boss. But on boss 5 in particular. But this is a
tier when they were able to level far more characters than any other tier
and pair far more characters than any other tier and have more as potential mains than any other tier
because of the extended duration of the season releasing in this kind of staggered fashion
and having an entire heroic week in which to prepare. We did see perfecto DK in the splits
doing just fine. So this is the tier when they can make it happen. The biggest surprise to me
is that Daner's got, you know, a rep palladin with a weapon ready to go like that's a that's an interesting one
Why is Kenix in a trash bin?
Robo Kenix bin?
What?
He rises!
I heard you asking production for some sort of asset. Production saying not that quickly
you say just ask Chris.
Great to have Chris on site.
Turbo bin.
He rises.
Oh my word.
Kenix in the rain.
Anyway, it takes I can do it coach
Just get me in no, that's great
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Oh my goodness.
Hopefully they pull the boss there.
Hopefully they pull the boss.
I'm interested to see what role canyx will be taking,
because nice memes, you know,
Demon Hunter, Venture Demon Hunter, if you remember it from last expansion,
with all of the different sigils that you had,
you had a crazy amount of crowd control.
That has been lessened. You don't have more than one sigil of chains now, as an example.
I don't think, I don't think you can get multiple of those.
So they are going to be in a slightly weaker spot.
But we will see.
You can see some bops going out on the shamans there. Do you see that that both of them are?
Do you think hear me out?
Do you think you could immune the infest cast with a bop?
I don't know if you can I didn't try but it is the case if you probably
pre-immune
They don't have a quick way of getting away. I think they're faster than Ghostwolf
Well, also it just allows them to stay there and slam face
That's what I'm thinking but so that would also occur for the decays
But you don't want it for them. I don't think as they can maybe blinding sleet or something like that
You know just sorry to tell them very briefly not too sure. Yeah to make it get away. They can also asphyxiate probably although we will be using a
least on so
There's a plan in motion so they I mean I assume that was a macro actually
being set up to make sure that they have those
without having to you know
Wait for it and even a millisecond to be too long sometimes that infest cast is going out
I mean with this comp they're absolutely aiming even when they're buffed to not have them cast fixate
Yes, no you just want to get them
You said he was bint it. I said his class was. Yeah, but the boy in the bin
Small now it did just kind of hench. Yeah
Canx prime
He's gonna prove you all wrong especially you Alex. He was crapping on him yesterday. I was what I was doing
no such thing. Always behind Cannex, consistently an amazing player, sad that
Bukinj Trash, but we got him in! I assume I'd like to follow Nice memes on the
first floor if we could. I'm curious as to whether he's taking a more big spider
control role instead of actively tanking the boss at any point, but his gear
level is so high that perhaps Cannex would want to take the least
really right he's a good almost 10 item levels below nice means yeah and and
probably mirrors is about the same as nice means right now so and it's you
probably want them taking the brutal amounts of damage it'd be interesting
to see the logs actually to see which of the tanks like especially if they buff
the spiders first we haven't seen where they're gonna start yet we're
currently chilling in worms country I believe well yesterday before they kicked
to sell from watching
uh... they were going over towards the world uh... the parasites first
so
but she doesn't have to
what's sold in soul market
i don't know
i was able
i was concerned that we have to do it
give you a little bit of a
yes you can do some market
well that that's a little
market down over there
and
something's not right
this will be freeze webs obviously
Yep, getting out there.
Indication, I think they're going to Parasites first.
By the looks of it, yeah.
This comp has got to try Parasites first.
This is meat grinder extraordinaire.
I'm just interested to see what sort of position they will be in
when they reach a similar combat time to Liquid's Best Pool.
Obviously, Liquid's Best Pool, you know, they were still working out.
They're still doing a lot of science.
There's still a lot of refinement.
They obviously had deaths.
They didn't just get to that point and everyone instantly died.
It was like a staggered death leading up to that point of their Best Pool.
So it'd be cool to see the differences between them.
But, you know, Liquid have got a lot of practice on this boss now.
They've got a hell of a lot more comfy than Echo have.
So they, you know, although this is a great opportunity for Echo to catch up,
they can't just say, oh, you know, we've got four DKs.
That means we automatically win.
No, this boss is going to be testing them.
They need to make sure they're doing it correctly.
If they one tap this boss, I will laugh.
That's never happening.
I meant one proper pull, by the way.
When I did my
Predictions yeah predictions a little scuffed at this point happily so I've never been more happy to be wrong. Oh, yeah
Can we see Skype a scrap delivering a sermon right now? Oh
Who's delivering the sermon right now can we see Roger?
No
Maris somebody's reading from the book of cooking. No somebody's sheffing right now. Is it potter?
No, maybe they'll just stay okay. They watching anime again. They could be having a little watch together. We're just watching YouTube
Yeah, oh look at
Perfecto ready. He's clearly stressed about the death night play
You can see the tension building I wonder if you guys can think of any time we've had this many melee in a group before
Lots of dread immediately comes to mind, of course. This is I think might be the fewest range
I can remember one two three four five six seven ranged. Yeah, it's quite a low amount
I remember back in Lord's Dread though. Of course we ran with a what five here come a five um range come perhaps
Four healers. Yeah, and a couple of them were potty breeze early patterns, of course true enough, so
if we just look at DPS five six seven eight
nine ten
Melee yeah excluding the tanks 10
Melee half of the raiders mainly 10 of kind of wild 13 melee positions in terms of you know
13 players needing to be in melee range in order to do their job with the three tanks on top of that
That is quite a heavy heavy push towards that direction
Can it come it's bench ready?
Oh
The bid
I wonder why some are so no might be able to quickly pick up some bits and pieces before they pull the boss bring any water
Oh no he's fading out! I don't feel so good, Scryp!
Hahahahaha!
Oh man!
Hahahahaha! Mr. Scryp, I don't feel so good!
Oh dear!
Well, whilst we're maybe waiting for the pool to come in at any moment now,
it would be good to catch up with the donations that you guys have been sending in, mayhabs.
Um, as you have been all raising some fantastic money for our charity that we're supporting this time around,
games for love, providing entertainment and games for children that are stuck in hospitals
for a long period of time, allowing them to still be kids while they're there, as well
as providing life-saving resources for children in developing countries as well.
So thank you everyone who has donated up to this point.
We have got a 10 dollar donation in from Fish who says, I heard that next race to
world first there will be an Echo Bean mascot.
Is this true?
Don't care.
Don't care.
There we go.
I hope not.
I think there should be one, don't you?
No.
Nope.
Down I've been...
Next question.
Next question.
We got a $10 donation in from Modi, who says,
Thanks for the amazing show as usual.
Got a question.
What's your take on this WoW 2, where you get so much higher item level gear so fast
and less effort than all previous expansions?
I think that the gear system is important to build up your character over time.
I think it's fun.
Nice to have a progression going on with that, don't you?
I just don't want it to last the entire season anymore.
No.
There's two really fun games out there. There's too much too much cool experience to be had
Uh, so yeah, I like uh a month
I think a month. I think like yeah a month to get your character in a very decent position
Yeah, it's more little increments here in there. Yeah
More than good to come back and not be like I'm behind. I've got to start on the catchips. That's if wow two's coming
Would be cool if it does but hey, this is this is the trio of expansions to do it
We've got a wonderful $25 donation in here from Muffin as well.
He says, our son got cancer when he was six and had 25 months of treatment.
We spent so much time in the hospital.
Luckily here in Denmark, we had teachers at the hospital.
Anyways, super important cause.
Thank you, CASA production and of course, Echo Heart.
Thank you so much, Muffin.
That's very, very generous of you.
I hope they're doing well.
Yes, really do.
I hope they're doing well.
And, you know, having that sort of support during the hospital was so, so important.
So, really do appreciate that.
Oh, okay. There's the donations randomly up on screen right now. Not entirely too sure why that's their production
Not sure if someone's made a whoops. Thank you
We've got a tender donation in from the harbinger
from Mass Effect
You're a Mass Effect gamer. I did not like three and
Almost played some of them andromeda. Oh almost played it like is it by accident?
Yeah
Hey, I've been told we'd be able to share my pet pics. So here are my sticky doggos have a nice race to world first everyone
Oh, it makes sense from the Harbinger
Doggos really do appreciate that. I'm actually sure for able to look at the dog. I join now
Boys we've had a book we got the froggies up sticky dogs frogs. Oh
No, we're never getting dogs apparently none of our audience have puppers. Well, that's true
We haven't seen any dogs today.
We have more cats than dogs, which is embarrassing.
We've got a $20 donation.
I'm not gonna touch that one.
Got $20 donation in from Vane.
I think that's the best way of saying it.
Apologies, if not.
He says, as a kid who got hospitalized
for a good chunk of childhood,
Nintendo and PlayStation were massively important for me
to escape those four walls.
Love this cause, love these castes,
and love this game.
Thank you so much.
Vane, can you say that name in a better way?
Perhaps I feel like I don't want to ruin the name here.
But Vayne? Vayne?
Yeah, I've got a Vayne there.
Yeah, so yeah, really do appreciate that.
And you're entirely right, distraction therapy is a huge, huge part of what the games for love team do,
because sometimes when you're a kid, you just want to be able to have fun, relax, and get through the day.
Right, so that's if you're old enough to understand the situation.
Exactly.
So that's the issue really, when you're a child, as you know, as adults we can be like,
Oh my god, this thing sucks, I don't just have to get through it, kids don't think like that.
They think, why is this happening to me?
Mama, please help me, why is dad doing it again and taking my games away?
Yeah.
We got a 10 dollar donation in from Pepiga, who says, up a pega.
Damn.
He says, hey Preach, you've been around for ages before the Toe times.
Well, I'm mythic spritos everything, like killing the first four bosses on three or
raid and seeing what drops. Not in that regard but we've done mythic splits. We've done mythic
splits. Yeah we did mythic splits. Yeah we had um what was the what was that? Eternal Palace. Yeah
let's give context to it. Actually I could do it last year as well. If you can't prog
anymore like on the next boss you're like it's not going to die before the reset.
But at the same time there are people who weren't in the mythic raiding you think pretty
sure you might want next week it is totally reasonable to go and do those
easier bosses on mythic with that kind of let's say like the situation now we
we're gonna need a fourth DK next week and they hadn't been in the mythic
lockout yet it is totally reasonable to do a mythic split where you run mythic
again with all the alt characters fall back character to get them in gear
before the reset. Yeah, you're entirely right. Another thing back when we released
we did it we knew that we wanted to kill Ashvane in Eternal Palace which was the
the fourth boss. The first three bosses were nothing burgers. So we brought our Ashvane
kill comp for the first three bosses to make that as strong as possible. And we just spent
like half of one of the raid days, anyone that won in on their main to be just killed
the first three bosses with them with some of the outs and gave them all the new. So
remind Alex there that as free as they were, we did have to HP flask half the characters
for the radiance boss. It's not my fault that everyone's old to the trash.
Fulbin! Fulbin! $25 from Simona who says,
I wish all children the best health and happiness in their lives.
Hopefully we all help and fulfill their dreams.
Also, good luck to Echo.
Thank you very much, Simona, for that $25 donation.
A $5 donation in from MiraCat.
Mike, why do you hate me with an image?
I don't know if we have a little look at that image from MiraCat.
Oh my goodness!
Is that a collar or is he stolen someone's key?
Oh!
Look! Look how cute that is!
Not a dog. It's not a dog. Well done, Mike.
I'm glad you're finally here.
Imagine if that was a dog. It would be so much cuter.
Miraka, I think you're very, very cute.
Get out of here. Don't listen to him.
Don't listen to him at all.
You and Canik's same house.
We have got a $5 donation from a non-em-ouse.
Oh no!
God, since he is the expert, since Zellie hovers everywhere, does that mean her feet are clean
and smell good?
Here's my puppy to make up for the silly question.
So we have all this got a wonderful dog.
Oh, way better than a cat.
Oh, he's like a little bit of a puppy.
It's a little rug on the floor.
Yeah, infinitely better than a cat.
You didn't answer the question though.
I forgot it.
In fact, it gave me a look of despair, which I agreed with.
Got another one donation from Toby Bryant.
He says, hello, preach. It's me again.
I'm coming to preach cross dress as the dress as a toe.
I'll see you there. Big toe.
I don't know how you could dress as you want.
Doesn't affect me.
We've got a 10 dollar donation in from anonymous anonymous.
Yeah, this one. I'm reading it as if it's going to be a win.
No, just anonymous, a hundred dollars.
Excuse me. So thank you so, so much.
He says, enjoying the stream and good luck on the race.
really do appreciate that anonymous thank you so so much
yes sir thank you so much and a oh yes see you're so pretty with your lovely
pretty pup the pup is pretty yeah well you're looking so pretty today that's
why correct now nothing else can live up to the makeup
boss we also got a 10 dollar donation in from
Caskin who just says thanks for the entertainment. Thank you all for your very very generous donations all going towards a wonderful cause
With lots of fun things coming our way as well
So stay tuned for all of the good stuff such as this upcoming ready check that's leading us into the pool
Mirrors is here. Where's he gone? Yeah, sometimes if you just say it hopefully it's like manifestation
Can I go to Mirrors? He's just tarting around in the stupid new city
There's nothing even wrong with it.
Nothing even wrong with it.
I can't find my way around it.
Oh, it's the same. No, not to Jinji.
He got some mirrors.
There he is.
Oh, thanks for making us wait, mirrors, as you do laps.
There's podcasts in there.
He's just getting himself ready.
Click accept!
Oh, you can land on those chains?
That's your birthday strike.
You know what, guys? It's my birthday.
You know what? I did actually just get a message in,
was from Pimbo makes sense how he said he they're not going to point to eat more cake
mine now we need to get some more cake run waiting for me after this to get
that cake that cake is out of here is it still is Roger still doing his thing is
he still on the mounts I'm kind of surprised that they are taking the
time to kind of get this poll it's all what he is look at him they are
hundred percent looking at a map on the other screen like we're gonna do this
set that we're gonna do that set that we're gonna do this time can you
Yeah, I sent them my map so now they're now they're ready to go all morning. They didn't have it now
They're ready. I'm just saying that that map doesn't matter apart from Tamarra's who just needs to mark
Let's be real none of the players care
They're just gonna just tell me when to use my CDs and I'll go to the one that you mark me for that's it
Power of tanking you can always drag the entire pool of melee with you wherever you want that is true
You have to escort them around like a bunch of lost little lambs
did they I did not notice if they did I saw the Vansus scrolls go down in number
I didn't see any lines come out well when a ready check comes in you can normally
see that with the ready check yeah there's no way in hell they advance us in here
even with the characters they're not like I was gonna say like what happens if
Frost DK is busted on Silkencourt you want to use Vantus or that instead so
So, and on Ancerac, if the dragon is extreme, the DK is going to be raw.
There are no dragons on Ancerac.
Oh, don't say it again.
Every time you say dragon.
That was last expansion, man.
It's a spider-box.
And now Miros is locked off for his birthday.
He's going to come back with a party popper in his mouth, which I'm just going to
head out for a good night in Cologne.
Oh, man.
It was on a different brewmaster then, that was a 618, I think it was a 621 brewmaster?
No, surely he's not swapping between brewmasters.
He has many brewmasters, he's the master of the brews.
That is true.
That is true.
Well, the thing is, it's all this time that they're spending getting themselves ready
and listening to a bit of YAP coming out of Roger's mouth,
that gives us more time to listen to me YAP about your wonderful donations that you've been sending in,
or maybe you would like to read the mic for a little while.
No, it's a full boss.
Well dude I can't help that. The one thing I can control is the ability to read these wonderful donations.
Do I gotta send more cats?
Can you make a needle hole?
I need a toot.
Please make a toot.
Don't do it on the couch Mike.
He is a birthday boy.
He is a birthday boy indeed. Doces go send some marries some love.
Oh, we haven't embarrassed Medic in a while.
So...
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Oh, don't! Oh boy!
It was... Do you tell it Al?
You'll wispily lay out like a little story.
Well, we was all downstairs.
We have reconvened for some food.
We went down, we enjoyed ourselves a lovely bit of a tatties and meat, and it was lovely.
And then they brought in some boxes.
I was all sat around having a nice little meal.
The two tables that we have, they brought in some white boxes.
clearly indicating some sort of baked good and Medic was sat in such a fashion
well you know he medic just said oh these are for Meris this is Meris is
surprise when's he gonna be here and unfortunately for our good friend Medic
Meris was directly behind him back to back and it went very quiet when Medic
spoke he's got a very deep powerful voice that carries in an open space
like that and it was painful. It was painfully funny. It was very very funny. It actually worked
very hard to keep the whole thing a secret so that because obviously we all go down at the same
time for lunch because you know that's when it cooked and we're ready to go so it's not unusual
that everybody should be in the cafeteria area at that time and they were just doing things and
mirrors wasn't paying attention when they brought the boxes in and Grimm had gone around saying
Can you all be downstairs? We're gonna surprise me as his girlfriend has sent him some really wonderful cake from a really expensive bakery
It's gonna be really cool
We're gonna get a picture on and all this kind of stuff. We're all sat there sort of chit chatting away
But obviously we're all really there to sing happy birthday to Marysons. Oh, yeah, and then it goes. Yeah
Is this the surprise for Miras? Oh, no
And ruined
mirrors his birthday he actually cried he was gonna say those tears in his eyes
yeah he just threw the cake on the floor that's where we ate it from floor
cake floor cake best cake and then he came upstairs and says if any of you
wish me happy birthday again I'm leaving so please do get your tweets in to
Mara's send him some happy birthday yeah if you can tweet at medic casks good
job ruining mirrors his day that's just letting you know your disappointment
in ruining Mera's birthday, who now has to listen to Roger Brown.
In all fairness, Mera was also there seeing the white baked good boxes being brought in.
It was not subtle.
Yeah, it was my birthday, and I really got boxes being brought in.
Oh cool, there's the cake!
It was certainly confirmed, the suspicions were confirmed.
I like that Ronny was putting a tripod up with a camera pointing at Mera's, subtly.
It wasn't, it wasn't, yeah that was, okay, I don't know if you can blame Medic entirely, but it's fun too.
So it was him. Before then it was perfect.
I've never seen such a strategically surprised party in my life.
It was best in the camp because there'll be no party while the pools are taking place.
That is fair. That is very very true and pools hopefully will be taking place as soon as
Merah is lost back in.
Well there is one thing that I would love to get to before the pools do get in as
we have received a five hundred dollar donation from Peter so thank you
much for the $500 donation just as Peter who says as a kid losing both parents of
an age of 15 gaming has always been my safe space and it is still of an age it's
still of an age 23 thank you guys for supporting this and hosting this amazing
event you're all great and they also sent in a image which I assume
production has available to us as well this is from Peter the donation that
you told me about. Thank you so so much. Really really do appreciate that. Oh, damn.
That's an awesome mug. Actually,
a sandy whisper effects. It's really cool. That's almost like a like a mummified sort of
gives me all the vibes. Like a what? A fremen. I don't know what a fremen is. You know what's
doing? No, I any of them didn't even know. I'm sorry. Some people also read. I've read all
them I don't well as you can tell by the way I read that donation me no read that good
but thank you so much Peter that's incredibly incredibly generous many many I much love to you
which version of Gertie Halleck do you like? Gertie Halleck. What did you just say? Words?
Some words. It's the regeneration of Stilgar that still gets to me. Stilgar?
I was all so sad when they regenerated
You guys are so nice. No, did you take our happiness by smashing through seven thousand dollars also you make it seven thousand sixty nine sixty nine nice
Yeah, you guys absolutely fantastic. You've been so so generous
I'm gonna see if I can speed run through some of these donations
Whilst we're waiting for the boss to pull because when the boss is pulling we're gonna focus more on that
So we've got a 10 dollar donation from Mr. Kexman who says love seeing games for love being the charity of choice for the echo team
Love seeing the work of the cast is in production are putting in excited for the race of the world first to be finally be back
Thank you so much. Mr. Kexman wonderful seeing you in Manchester recently. We got another 10 dollar donation in from oh
Gandhi
Not as in that Gandhi, but Gandhi a you
Who says being sick as a kid sucks good luck with the race. Thank you so much
Um, Gandhi, he ruined it for me like, we got a 10 dollar donation here from TREED.
He says, Mike, you are a clown. Alex, you are a legend. Oh, thank you.
You know what, this is why I don't want you.
Eres Munchy. And apparently there is a image from TREED. I don't know if we can get that one up.
We can't get that one up, unfortunately.
This is because of Cyrus.
I don't know, but I'm going to, I'm going to leave it unticked so that maybe in a
quieter time we will return to it.
It's Bad Link.
Let's see what's going on.
It's Bad Link.
Oh, is it Bad Link?
You would think you would know about it. It works in IT.
Oh, okay, so we need an imager like if you want to send in a $1 donation, we can see if we can get to that
Thank you very much. Mr. Dread. You've got miss flux for a 10 dollar donation. He says
Enjoying the stream and the cast is as always you saw the kitty the other day and here is my doggo from miss flux
I thought I recognized. Oh, who's a good boy?
So much better than a cat. Oh, it was a good girl. Oh, I miss my dogs man
me too. Thanks for bringing that up. Sad not, we've got a sad soundtrack for my kids birthday
tomorrow and I'm not there. Everything else, Al? Um, Greg's, we've got 25 double-dose
engine in from Anonymous who says, thanks for all you do, um, for all you do, Casus. Echo
and of course, chat. Much love to chat. Here's my pup from Anonymous. Oh, no way, that looks
It's like a pop out of like a magazine or something that is a beautiful beautiful pop
Yeah, we had even like in a bucket and a parrot hat and all sorts of stuff
We got a ten dollar nation in from sneaky fox who just says how to send dog
How do I dog how how dogs and how dog sad face image link you can send us an image link with your donation
And if you actually do want to send a picture of dog feel free to just love it on a one dollar nation
And we'll get that up for you. Thank you very much for the $10 poppers
We've also got goose but oh damn. Where did goose but go? I don't know. That is goose but
There is what you guys abandoned me a $10 donation
Get it from goose but there's this help help. Thank you very much
We have also got
Oh
Sam informing us that a goose but unfortunately not with us anymore
Wow, literally a fiery demise, um, one dollar donation in from, Duh Duh Duh Duh Duh, Tanya,
who says, Hi Mike, your anti-cat comments are not appreciated, here is Bailey, he is
the best, he sometimes acts like a dog because he can play fetch. Cats rule, dogs drill,
not true, not looking at that. They do do that actually. Oh and only imagilings, I'm
Sorry. It is what it is. Apparently it's something.
Oh, it looks like cats are banned.
Cats are banned.
Oh, lookie.
Portrait production, not us.
Mouthing off at me.
Huh?
Where's Cat?
We've got a hundred dollars coming in from Tex, who says great cause and great event.
Mike, here's my Puppas just for you and this is an image of Link from Tex.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Yep.
I feel like when you walk up to the dog, he just rolls his back to the belly.
Yes, for sure.
you need to do beautiful beautiful get it done for $14 and 89 cents from Rob who
says I like toes yesterday today I like 69 I think that was the donation that
got to the 69 cents don't I said that out loud it's not I just read it's like
anchorman we've got a 10 dollar nation in from Jase 193 he says since preach is
a clown and only has clown stories Alex how did the Papas guys start also since
Preach wants doggo pictures. Here's Remington.
Oh, right. Damn.
Just a victory. It's just it's just chocking him up.
So cute. The dogs are just dominating this whole thing.
Cats shambled, full shambled.
Oh, my word. The dogs are coming out.
You know, they're going out full send. So cute.
So cute. The best dogs are cute.
I love them best. I must admit, I'm more of a dog guy.
But I know that you're a dog guy.
And if we're both just sitting here just saying cats are awful,
then I'm gonna submit too much of a balance. I don't think cats are awful, I just don't think we should exist anymore.
And they should just be replaced by dogs. Oh man. What? You had it here first. Um, only has clown stories apparently.
I don't know, what am I telling my clowns? Or my time in the circus? My juggling career? Can you juggle? No. We need to sort that out.
You're not glimmering honking skill. I'm just saying you're not much of a clown if you can't juggle. That's right. I'm not much of a clown.
Thank you very much guys for confirming that, thank you.
The best compliment I've accidentally paid all day.
Um, I made a video for our guild, uh, way back when in Cataclysm, and, um, about how to do an upcoming boss,
and, uh, for some reason it got a bunch of views, uh, cause it was just randomly on YouTube.
And I was like, huh?
What are you talking about?
This is now Fappos' side.
Oh!
There's just something making more.
I thought you were gonna say something about clowns.
No, nothing about clowns.
There's nothing about clowns.
So yeah, basically you started all the way back then, just in Cataclysm, mucking
around, doing it for the memes.
Kind of got out of control and here I am
We've got another hundred dollar donation damn you guys are going crazy from Brint's clutch
He says amazing cause an amazing team all round. Let's go echo and here's a picture of Levi. I
Can't go to die. I can't do this anymore. This is so good. Who is the best day?
Don't even pull anymore. I don't care about me. Oh, keep your pictures coming
And we need to see them so so generous as well really really do appreciate it
We also got a tender donation in from Voxillity
I as a
Preach-O-Preach you hate those cats no hot chocolate for you imagine that we haven't got any hot chocolate
That is very true if your words don't start to sound real sweet Goosepert will come and take your seat
You talk is a reference there we go. Can you send another picture?
No that is Goospert from Race.
Yeah, there we go.
Yasmin with the silly tree thing called Fred or whatever it's called.
Fred the tree.
Fred the indoor tree.
Oh man.
It's a lamp thing right?
Yeah, it's my thing.
It's a crazy lamp.
I really do appreciate that thing, thank you so, so much.
As well as a 10 dollar donation in from Rackness, Sup Charlie, who says, Big love
to all working on the race production cast as a players, here is my exciting
girl Lucy.
who's also cheering you all on.
Oh, I can confirm in person, the best dog as well.
Insane super hyper, but wonderful, wonderful dog.
Thank you for that, Reckless.
Very, very cute.
Oh, oh, they're moving.
Yeah, they're just, they're getting the blood moving again.
Yeah, once 10 players are jumping around,
that's when I start getting excited, OK?
What's even more exciting for these donations?
Just, I can't keep up.
You guys are fantastic.
Should I just keep going?
I mean, they're not, but can we?
Yeah, try.
OK.
I'm going to speed run these a little bit.
Of course, we're literally helping kids.
What are we saying?
Yes.
Help the kids.
We've got a $10 donation in from Dresdas, again,
who says, littlean and scar dog, much vicious old picture
mic, which you'd know if you ever visited.
Oh, damn.
Thank you very much, Dresdas.
Very, very cute.
Oh, my word.
It's amazing if you introduce the kids properly
to the dogs, how protective they are.
And they look after them to the end of the earth.
We got a $1 donation in from DREED, who actually sent the image in and this time saying,
Fix it, Chris! With the image link, can we get this one up from DREED if it's a good one?
Put it, boom!
Putting the pressure on production.
Oh, my word!
A little derp-a-doggy.
Very cute. Very cute indeed.
Oh, God.
We got a $25 donation in from Anonymous who says,
Thanks for the great screen.
Makes sitting at work almost bearable.
Great cause, let's go Echo and a link as well to an immature.
So, very much.
Oh, for a rather desperate try to sort these.
That's it.
Oh, my word.
That is a happy pup as well.
Tong goes about 12 feet.
That is a tongue that just unravels.
Oh, we've got a 5th donation in from Shad.
He says, let's go Echo.
What a day to start my mini vacations.
And finally some proper pools.
Where?
Did you see the Mod Check?
This is, oh, this is sent from 10 hours from now.
I'm so fucking tired.
Well done with that.
Here's my happy giant excited about me being home from chef.
Oh, my God.
That is either a TV on the end of like a key ring,
or that dog is 18 feet tall.
Maybe both.
What kind of perspective is that?
I honestly, this is giving me a bit of a headache.
I don't know what's going on.
Your dog is as big as the door.
That is very confusing.
We got a $15 donation in from Leanny,
Who says my puppy Yabba?
Yabba do.
Desperately waiting for the pool, doing a great job guys.
Good luck to Team Echo and a wonderful pitcher.
Oh, it's my face waiting for the ball.
It really is.
Oh, so can we put that side by side?
We're out with the raiders right now.
We're enlisting to watch it like that.
Just having to push.
He just resized it and put it next to Kush.
Same face, same face.
Absolutely not.
Done so done you could put that over caution. We would not be able to tell
Where's the fact tell he's bound to be the same
When listening to Roger
Of course guys as they're getting ready for school listening to Roger Brown is so important
He's come up with a quality strategy that is worth 40 minutes of discussion.
Oh man.
We've got a $10 donation in from Anonymous who says,
I've had, I have had three drama time stories from the most recent earlier.
They were, my guild died in a day, muted, and one mic simply titled The Story.
So you go.
Thank you very much, Anonymous.
Got a $10 donation in from Exod.
Oh, Exod to you?
Oh, I can't even read that name.
Help. Come on it.
Need an adult now.
Alex has run out of words.
Exodious.
Thank you.
I knew it was a word. I just couldn't read it.
Dogs are the best. Cats are useless.
Yes. And I'll link you.
Yo, that's the magnificence.
That is zero. What a gentleman.
My word. He's even got his own little name above his house.
Yeah. Damn. Zero.
Zero. Destroyer of worlds.
Ten big ones. Good luck, Echo.
Here's my cat. I know you don't want to see it,
but cats are, of course, superior.
This is really the cat.
Thank you Matty, thank you so much for cheering us up, well then ruining our day with your cat video.
That's a cat in a bag, kinda cute.
Yep, we're trying to make the kids feel better, more dogs.
Oh man, that's a point actually, do you get emotional support cats?
I've heard of emotional support dogs.
Alex, you know the answer to that question.
Yes I am.
Do you get emotional support sharks?
I don't think so.
You might, I'm sure they're very gudly.
The potty thank you for the ten big ones towards the children dogs and cats of both Q either way with double whammy
But it's not an imago link. Can we not do that one now?
Generally speaking. I think if it's not an imago link
We are yeah, right for now feel free to resend it in guys if you're waiting for the poll so we yes
They're going through the whole fight checking week or blah blah blah the markers and all that kind of things
They will definitely pull some time before the race finishes and then we can go they're not wasting time. They consider
That is a wonderful, wonderful picture as well.
Damn. You even got Mike on that one.
Yeah, a little bit.
A little bit.
But almost with a five towards helping them really sick kids out.
Thank you. Let's go echo.
It is a little picture of my dog and my cat in unison.
All right.
One unified picture.
There we go.
Oh, that cat looks like it's just prayed.
played a prank on the dog. I have never seen a picture that represents like warriors and
moonkins in a single image of the warriors just staring blankly into space as the moonkins
complain and complain and complain in the background. This is wow summarized right here.
Wonderful, wonderful. Very cute indeed. Thank you so much. $5 for Miss Cass. Thank you for
the content and raising money for a great cause. There's a little picky of my doggy
when we were on our recent vacation the dog domination is honestly inspiring yeah
best day at the beach i'm sure oh make sure you guys suddenly pictures of your cats out on vacation
oh wait nobody does that it's cats are rubbish thank you pup though thank you so so much and
you guys are doing incredible nearly seven and a half thousand dollars you guys have been going
It's about to crash through that. This is unreal. I mean realistically at this point guys echo pulling
hurts sick children
A really dark thought I know
This is all a big bamboozle
If echo actually do any mythic pulls the children suffer. Oh, no. Oh for sake of fox
With ten dollars towards our good cause here
I've been watching the race for a first few years lovely event the cast of the donation goes but this anti-cat propaganda has led to this donation
Here's Agatha
Much love let's pull. Oh
Those eyes. Yeah, you look so evil right? No, they're wonderful. You get lost in those. That's crazy
That's what they're supposed to do a soul-sucking night. Oh, that's to mesmerize you into the can to tune a lot
No tow to the cat no cat
Lady lash
Thank you so much for the five dollars. Here's my cat destroyer
Oh his name is destroyer. Oh here is my cat comma destroyer
Okay, can I like that nice try that is like every felger it
Right up destroyer of worlds. It's just cute little giddy. It's the return of tanya rocker all time
Yeah, $5 for tanya is Bailey again, but we're the proper link as requested. He's majestic
He is loved probably replaced Mike with medic okay mage on the Gura now
They appreciate cats a lot more than this clown. You're doing a really good job Alex and Jesse. Well, let's skip past your message
Oh, whoa. Okay. That is a majestic gentleman. Well, oh, Skype. Yeah, looks good
No, can you not see the chest fluff just a little through for
See a star
Reves you mean. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you hear that Tanya
Yeah.
Thanks for the donation by the way, Tanya, you had to go to a very close attitude in the
donations.
Bring the asset.
That's fine.
With just a straight up link and just cash for the really sick kids, thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
Oh my word.
Hell yeah.
Right?
That is a dog that I would trust.
Tanya, look at the screen.
That is that I would trust that dog.
I feel that that dog is more mature than I am.
I feel that if I was lost in a city, that dog is better than me and my phone.
Yeah, exactly.
Full faith.
I agree.
Yeah, I would have to control.
Yeah, for sure.
For you.
Very fair.
Very fair.
It kind of looks like, what was the name of that lion that died in that movie?
Jesus, my arm.
What's the lion king?
Simba was his name.
Oh, yeah, that one.
Mufasa.
Mufasa.
It's not like a Mufasa vibe, right?
Is it Mufasa, like the evil one?
I didn't watch Disney.
Oh, you'll think it was Scar.
Scar, right.
Yeah, that was played by the guy.
No Dune, no Lion King, what did you watch?
I haven't seen Star Wars either.
What the hell?
I like Big with Tom Hanks.
I watched Matilda.
I haven't seen Big, no.
That's a lie, everybody's seen Big.
I don't know what Big is, but it's Big.
So if Tom Hanks gets Big, there's clues in the name.
Wait, he just gets like, swole?
He starts small.
He starts small and gets, what, to normal size?
Or Big.
To adult size.
He starts as a kid and becomes an adult.
That sounds like quite a shit movie, right?
It's a 20 year long movie. You don't know this. Oh, no, they literally track you from the days Bob
But Tom Hanks. Yes, so they happen to think so he becomes Tom Hanks. They just YOLO'd it
Just happen to the proc pretty well on that one
Yeah, the good news is that in the past 40 minutes, the raid has largely moved from
To the Gohoony section of movement of about 15 yards, which presages, you know, that's probably a good sign for
Can we get a time lapse of the last hour per minute?
They're in the right area now, so I think they're about to pull, so I'm going for it, dude.
Go on, speedrun it.
So, Raz, are you with me? Talk to me, Goose.
Let's do it, dude.
You just said, oh, no.
I'm going, like a lass, thank you for the $5.
Monty is surprised by the lack of doggo pictures.
He wishes to address the violence.
Congratulations.
Love the name Monty.
Excellent dog name.
Indeed.
Shad Raza, thank you for the $10.
She's cute as well.
As usual, I feel it's entertainingly entertained.
I love watching you deal with your shenanigans.
Bags for the race, greetings from me
and my candle queen Warlock.
Oh, oh, damn.
You look waxy.
That does that.
That's that seems like a lot of maintenance.
Yeah, it does.
There's a lot of a lot of wax.
We are obviously as soon as the pool we're going.
And if we've missed anybody, we will get to you.
Don't worry.
Yes.
But let's go on.
Bashil, thank you so much again,
I believe for the twenty five dollars to make up for the cake that we made you eat here's a picture of our dog
Oh for Mike. Oh
Totally worth it. What am I made Mikey? I'd eat a cake as well, but a show wait half a cake and even finish it
For five dollars no money, but I want to flex my mug
I'm confused
It's fine. There's don't worry jc. They're giving the five dollars as well. That's the mug Alice. Can you please sing?
Smell my feet smell my stinky feet slowly a preach you understand also here is Remy again
It's big system Lexi says the picture of the trans mug and also no
No, I'm not that's I don't got what he wanted. I'm sorry. I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna buy into the feet
Just time around nobody is
Oh look at those pops. So very cute. They have their own pillows. Yeah. My pillows are
my dog's pillows. Yeah. Just let them, you know, they win. Yo Han, thank you for the $10.
This is why it's supposed to be for my brother's dog. The donation is a bonus. No, no, no,
it's for the kids, guys. It's for the kids. It's not to rate my dog. Well, you
No, we've not turned into that and all the so far every dog has been turned out of 10.
Yes, I haven't seen a grim dog yet. They've all been absolutely phenomenal.
Thank you very much, Johan. Did we get that picture as?
Oh no, it wasn't an image. Oh no, we see I've got a picture.
Oh yeah! Look at that floofa! Oh my word!
You just come back and...
Okay, our audience has the best animals.
So in all the pet pictures have been adorable. Thank you so much for sending them all in.
to be idiots, new transmog ones and now we can just get poppers.
Pets, I've got a lot more to say about pets, it's still incoherent, but I feel that everyone
gets the flow a bit more.
$10 of well, this is, oh my god, you guys nearly $8,000!
Keep a go off bitches, can we hit $8,000 before Echo do a poll?
Which is like the worst insane goal ever!
Is that we started, I think, six something.
We've got over two and a half thousand dollars. Jesus Christ. Damn. Yeah. We're going to get
$10. I was enjoying the Echo Streams during my work day. Have a good day at work. My
dog, Pete, also enjoyed. That's a lovely name for a dog. Pete. Oh my God. Oh my God.
eyes oh and the piggy nose ball oh now they we need to keep it they are eating
a food buff which means they must pull it in the next we're going 60 minutes
the game of food buff we're going we're going quick really massive to all the
people working to bring us yet another amazing race especially behind the
scenes I have to agree with Mike however dogs rule how about we dual wheeled
Puppers
Following the race to a first in years now and always love watching your cast since preach doesn't like cats
I'll send you a picture of my cat to a nine for you and your little treat as well
It's a very cute cat. Come on now. $5 when my dog hears people talking about cats. I don't know what this is going to be, but it's probably going to be bad.
Oh dear. It's probably going to be bad. We'll find out obviously. They have a food buff now. They're ready to go. They're fully buffed. They've just refreshed buffed.
from production please pull $8000 for the kids Raz $180 away oh delicious oh my word
just a rain with the $5 gogo echo always raising money for a good cause
capture them oh my 12 week-old labrador puppy Eddie realized that echo still had
not pulled the last boss dog looks like it's on the best walk in its life man
That is a good boy.
Oh, wonderful.
And the 12, I've got to say the 12 a week.
How I'm sad that the dogs are going by so fast.
Oh my God, 30 dollars away.
Oh, look at that, look at that.
Oh, so cute.
What a good girl.
What a good girl.
I can't believe this is happening before.
Ready checks coming in soon, guys.
Let the pig in the eggs go.
You got donations over and a half ago.
I love how we're shout casting the bar going up.
I mean, we're almost there!
Nothing, thank you for the $3!
Hey guys, it's me again, here is our baby Frenchy Melvin!
Hashtag got me a doll!
Let's have a look, see...
No way, you forgot to put a link in it!
Will Simp for cash!
$3! Hey guys, me again, here is my baby Frenchy!
How does everyone... Inge, the image link is here!
I don't know what World of Warcraft is, and I don't care, but look at my dog!
Oh, we beat it! Yeah!
Oh, no!
Excellent!
I'm sending one over to you, Jethro.
It's been such a good dog picture.
Yeah, that's fine.
I'm waiting for a pull any minute now.
I'll be real. God bless Echo.
And their lack of ability to pull a boss.
And God bless all of you, folks.
Yeah, it's all good fun and games,
but you guys are really making a huge difference
to so many children.
So thank you so, so much.
And thank you for sending the dog photos.
And it's a ready check!
You guys just did it!
Yes!
I love the last one. It's
happening. No, Rasmus. No
waiting. One last dogs, but my
two boys are the absolute best
with a couple of pictures there
from our for the $10 and I just
ultimately want to shout. Okay,
produces telling me they actually
got a yes pulling the boss.
Don't worry. We will get to
your pictures. We've been
we're marking all of them as
snacks or some good to know and we are well done. It's the wipe. We go so having a little
bit of a look. Let's have a little bit of a walkthrough as we go. The boss is going to
be dragged into this area that has slightly more parasites. So when she heads on over
to the canister, she's going to be numbing away. Every single parasite group in the
entire raid now is mutated. This means they have 50% more health. They'll be
moving at 10% increased movement speed like as ever going faster and faster you can see this week
or a little map look how jank it looks this is a Roger special for sure um as we have got uh the
first set of debuffs Cush unfortunately going down taking one of the swirlies to the face
but you're going to see the eggs getting broken out here and then the players have to deal with
all of them let's just see how the damage meter looks my word losing a healer there is going
It's going to be really really rough.
Yeah, it took a while to control them that.
I was really hoping to see the first pack annihilated,
but what we're going to see now in the next few pulls
is actually damage profiles.
They're going to make sure, and it's
actually difficult because Kush is dead,
to make sure the damage profile, they do not
need to overkill these parasites.
They need to make sure they kill every pack consistently
and smoothly.
You can see the parasites going a little out of control.
Yeah, so this is going to be a bit of damage profile
checking now to make sure they have
up this meat grinder spec but it's sending 8 million dps into ads that need 6 million dps to kill
it's and then the next put the next spawn has like 4 million that's not going to work
without wasting cooldowns of course so they're going to be damage profiler now nice damage on the
boss outside of lust lust actually the actual boss damage just considering we've only done one egg
is rock solid was it the webs that killed kush there i think it was the swirly as the
The boss is eating out of the container doing the ingest black blood cast, sending out the...
Yeah, I think there might be a fest.
The lots of swirlies come out, I think it can be quite difficult to see in melee, so it might just be that we unfortunately weren't able to see the swirlies, but I'm sure Jesse over on the Matro analysis desk will be able to confirm or deny that for us once the logs have been updated.
Look who's top of the DPS.
What?
It is that way.
In old fairness, I'm proud of Fanna.
Look at them, do you know?
Oh, the ret poly here is actually,
we were talking about it in the kitchen,
it's like the ret poly play here
is really not a bad idea.
Oh yeah.
Cause they just love this environment.
If they can get those cleaves going,
they could put out absurd amounts of burst damage.
Like it's really wacky.
It'll actually look a little reminiscent to Queen of Shara,
which is where they sent in the Narko play
onto the abs and Narko would be like,
not even on the damage meter
and then number one by like 25%
in a matter of seconds.
So we will be seeing that so a little what season at the beginning there then now they're going to take
20 to 25 minutes. This is like a hopefully some recent. Yeah, you managed to find them
Swirlies killed both cush ends out in the first 40 seconds. Oh, this is indeed, you know, you need reps
We practice did he kill him through cheat death. Is it hit that hard? He took two
One prog cheat
As a rogue play for sure
Can you not do that? Thank you
Subsequent deaths were largely attributable to mismanagement of the tank debuff of course lower your health after receiving that tank debuff
The more damage the red takes you need to get it need to get the tanks topped for that vile concoction
Excellent stuff. Yeah, absolutely makes sense
Funny the healing comp just it feels like to just jamming in as many
Votes as you can into the healing comp right now
Yeah, and not because I mean their wing buffet buff it is also knocking
They have so much good utility here rewinds when things go wrong
You know that divos gonna come out like that their tool kit for this fight is actually exceptional if they need to get into a weird position for a knock
However, do you go over there grab somebody you might be out of place?
You might be not be able to get to that marker quicker. There's so many ways in evoker can help
Yeah, they're just doing so much HPS as well. And yeah, they're just pumping. Yeah, right
It's not just it all is just working right into their favor
You got all these predictions about the priest combo the rest of shamans all this stuff
But ultimately it's looking a bit rather get this where suddenly the rise of the evocuses back again, Geith
Yeah, absolutely. I can also update you on item level. Oh, yes board to see that
They have an average item level of six nineteen point four
Ranging from a peak of five people at six twenty two and then a low of six fourteen on you can guess it
It's got x yeah, it's actually hard pinning that
I got in the raid, but he's still a big excluding him the average would be almost exactly 620 damn
There we go. Good job. Can it's it looks like the median item of all factors is 620. There we go
So the pretty strong position
Yeah, very very good. They are doing phenomenally. Well, they're right where they need to be gear is that there is barely anything to get
out of this week at this point. I'm not sure what who hasn't sent yet fully. I mean I kind
of feel like they probably all have at this point, but knowing Echo there's definitely
some stuff holding back. They're always holding something back. It might be the characters
they're not even sure are going to be, you know, like Perfecto is going to use that
DK again, maybe probably not ideally, but you'd see. Can we go to Thanos POV for the
next pull? Let's see our boy, Thanos, pumping. Who's that next to him? Is that just
It's just right here some little look see we're definitely gonna want to watch the vile concoctions on the tank that tank debuff
He's doing significantly more damage than what is expected even well managed 50 million damage on the raid and a poorly managed one
Where the tank was at half health for a popping was 65 million that way that debuff works
It goes on the tank the less health they have the more damage everyone takes when it expires
So you want to get them topped because it's a serious big hit
Is there a shot at debuff on Mithic?
I'm not sure, I can take that.
It's relatively lengthy on Heroic, you have time.
At least 10 seconds.
Yeah, so you can top the tank and then it ticks really heavily to get them back.
The whole purpose of that debuff is to make sure the tank is not at full health, like it really tries,
so the healers have to work their balls off to...
It's still 30 seconds long.
Yeah, so it's almost something that healers forget about.
The initial application, the thing that eventually explodes is 30 seconds long.
Well, no, that's the full debuff duration during which I think they can't re-tank.
Right, okay, but the bomb debuff is in like when it actually explodes, so we know the duration of that.
Let me find that.
Thank you, Bob.
Eight seconds.
Eight seconds.
So it's quite lengthy, but it ticks for how much again?
I'm not sure what is on Mythic.
The ticks on the tank?
Yeah, because obviously the issue we saw is a lot of people were topping the tank up like to get up with it.
But then it ticks for like half your HP.
That's obviously going to vary by tank.
We have three different tank specs,
and they all take varying amounts of magic damage
and mitigate in different ways.
But it was ticking on, let's see, nice means for 290K
every second.
That's 299Ks.
That's manageable.
That's mitigated.
He had another one.
That's been passive damage.
He had another one that has failed to mitigate.
But this one's about to explode now.
So it's not so bad if you can get them fully topped up.
Everyone going down, what, maybe about 20% health there.
So as long as it's something that you keep an eye on, then not too bad, but a lot of healing reductions and absorptions, excuse me, coming out from this boss as well as a bunch of damage,
lots and lots of raid damage here now going incredibly low.
Unfortunately getting clipped by one of the Swirlies Barlicks.
This boss also does ever increasing damage each time that she makes her way and eats one of these canisters.
Her passive ticking raid damage gets even more spiteful, but you can see players clearing out the first set of eggs.
There we go, four sets all underneath the boss and...
Boo!
Time to do some damage.
There's a deep breath coming in as well.
Whoa!
That was a deep breath!
My word! That's so much to do!
So much!
You can see Narko going absolutely crazy in their wall life.
One of our new players doing an incredible amount.
Unfortunately, Velo going down, not looking too solid there.
Hopefully we do have a battle res for that.
They don't because Revers went down on the A,
we gripped the moment he started bladestorming.
typical war is stuff you know I just wanna go
yeah one of the issues the Arran instance was ridiculously heavy melee
comp is that if they don't kill all of them and the infestors go off and it's
happening they fix anything melee immediately yeah so that's something
they're gonna have to be very wary of is if they don't manage to stop all of the
parasites infesting each time that they're probably gonna hit a melee
immediately look at narco's managing to do though he's being narco yeah
Top of the DPS meter there full slamming alongside wall life there all the raid is gonna get hit pretty hard
Though mechanics been quite high. Yeah quite low excuse me
I'm fortunate explosion with only two healers available
Leading to death
They also did miss an egg. Yes. Yeah, so there is going to be a little bit of some
Teething
Damage stuttering you can see how they're managing the cooldowns. It's not like all the DKs are doing different things
that they're making sure they have enough for each one.
And now, obviously, you see Narko right now doing 3 mil
in comparison to maybe like Perfecto now
who's like closest to 1.8.
That isn't necessarily just because Narko's crazy good,
which he is obviously, but it's probably more likely
that he's had his cooldowns assigned at a point
where it's gonna be doing the most damage.
I imagine that we'll be seeing Perfecto now
catching up in a little bit.
I would guess they're trying to stagger
their Reaper's mark a little bit.
So maybe two of them are using them per pack.
What is a Reaper's mark?
I see new hero talents that most of the Frosty guys are playing, so you apply it and then it stacks up and then when it reaches into our stacks it spreads and does a ton of damage.
It's typically a number one damage source now.
Nice.
Yeah, it's like a debuff. It's a relatively longish cooldown, or you can change it's cooldown around and do various things within your little hero talent tree.
Very cool.
Yeah, I knew not of anything to do with DKs this time around. All I know is that DKs go buff and do big dam.
Yeah, so it'll be that way.
Yeah, it was like Fanna held back a little bit and then he popped off on pack number two
And it looks like Reves like you just said that Jesse was supposed to be the warrior pack
It looks like that's how the stagger is like warrior pack here double DK's Fanna could do it can relatively consistently
Kush I assume is pure single target here
About 60% single target with some a we on the blood
Parasites through caustics batter. Yeah, so that's the is that the bed and bum
I'm not entirely too sure, he's playing a sass, so he will be doing poison damage for you.
Yeah, I don't know anything about Rogue, but I can read a tooltip for you.
Using Mute Blade on a target afflicted by your rupture and deadly poison, apply Caustic Spatter,
which causes 45% of poison damage, splash onto nearby targets.
Okay, so it sounds like a free cleavability.
All four of the Death Knights are blasting, only two of them use the Reaper's Mark on that pack,
and we're getting huge value from Breathless and the Grocer.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yes, that is exactly what they want out of that and min-maxing your breath is gonna be something
That's gonna be very important for this fight being able to keep it up for as long as we don't you I thought yes
I did just between doing like a 30 and a 50 second breath. That's so a thing
Yeah, I mean there's little bits right. It's nowhere near like what used to be when you start that perma
Like you breath the entire fight or I've made a range for a second cool. I might as well just half stone
Yeah, well, there's a lot of times you're gonna be dragged out my range as well very likely there on any given egg pack that one of the
DK's is gonna be selected for it
So they have it's good that they need to they know they know that that's gonna happen
And they'll have to be prepared
With their damage for it. You can see going for another pool now, which I'm very glad for hopefully
They need this needs reps over and over again. This needs a lot of reps
Oh, well life the food. Well, you know, he doesn't food buff. It's just not tracked properly for him
unfortunately with whatever we were using before. Seeing the value of the frost death
knights as all of the frost death knights are in the top five both for boss damage
and for parasite damage both. It's actually kind of one of those. And they never stop, they can just keep
cleaning. And considering we're buffing the parasites from the very very
beginning of the encounter making it so that we're able to deal with any
parasite pack very efficiently is going to be a point of high value for Echo
Here you ready to see something really disgusting happen in a second. I really
For life one of our new members here echo has been performing out of his mind apparently a warrior extraordinaire
You can see the week or a telling him where to go. He needs to go to the
Blue square and to break them out. But here we go. He comes the blade
Top
much damage in saying Narko part of this as well you can see go out the crazy
man to get it back in nice ring of peace crazy crazy man as well yeah still
some parasites although they're not quite killing them in time so they need a
little bit more impact from the one and some of them are actually getting through
and infesting which is something we really want to avoid if obviously one
parasite turns to two on the right difficulty and above so you do want to
avoid that but the money are certainly not getting involved as they're
running over to the next set of adds wherever the boss goes is where the
melee goes that's the point of this meat grinder setup that they've got going on
here second of a bit second set of eggs there we go coming in let's see if
they're able to survive it yeah they need to get them in lock them down and
this will be on to the other death knights now so we should see the other
DKs now rise if they've set their stuff up correctly because he now is
coming up there in order to put out their damage it's not doing quite a
Yeah, look, they're still like 80%.
This is what needs to alter in the next few pulls,
is where, you know, we need that burst.
So they're losing it here.
Velo had a weak core that said,
roar that shit for the oppressive roar.
I'm gonna increase CC.
That is one thing.
Yes, oppressive roar is gonna be incredibly useful here.
Having an AOE stun last twice the duration.
I'm assuming that's still how oppressive roar works.
It used to increase CC by 100%.
Maybe that's been nothing I don't know,
but assuming that's still the case,
incredibly powerful bit of kit
when you are see seeing this many ads, as you can see the last third set of eggs, the last four this particular
sector of the room we're coming in now, all of those ads getting grouped up underneath the boss and here comes the damage
AoE abound doing tons underneath the boss. Gotta make sure we keep those kicks going though!
They still need to get the rest of these infests under control, they're kind of, they're relying on a lot of personal play here to kite them
They're not panicking about the people getting invested like you just make sure you you know
They'll be passively cleaved with this meat grinder build
Women through the boss that wall that one does need to die though
The worms at the moment aren't all mutated but as that worm is in the goo
It has got 50% increase health and a hundred percent increased cast time
So it is in its mutated form right now
I'm not like I can't get that I'm really gonna really struggle to get to it and all like a three-ranked
You can see the cast actually went through then that's gonna be really bad as we're going through this
Yes here could be pretty rough. Yeah, they live they live they're going into the next one
So first area complete 70% on the boss
Bloodlust has been used though
Then that's probably gonna change later. I'm sorry. They could moving their bloodlust around some various really nasty overlaps that come a bit later
Looks like they lost a few players there. I always hate these raid frames
What the yeah, I can be down there. Yeah, and many as well. Yeah one if they're gonna be sending the uncle
I'm not entirely too sure I doubt it though because I think we might be
coming towards the end of this pool with this many players down it's unlikely
that we're going to be able to keep control of these ads as we are indeed
heading off towards the spider area having the same thinking and same idea
behind the order of these ads as a liquid did towards the end of their
night at least that's what we're going for right this moment it's nice to be
able to get through the first sector not as clean as they would like see if
you cast going through there pool number three for what it's a proper
They've managed to set themselves as in second place in the world
Yeah, a little bit of a replay here of these all come again. Oh, I'm really I think he's going to be sure. Oh
You can see that not all the parasites unfortunately getting CC'd underneath the
Bostic we actually get towards that. Sorry. I wasn't sure what we're looking at
They were getting here. You can see all of the ads getting knocked in that was star just wasn't
Um, sorted out a tool and then they weren't properly funneled underneath the boss making it difficult to get them underneath
And it went horribly wrong. So that's something they need to improve for
And this works it's gonna be brutal
It's so much damage
Obviously they're not mutating the giant spiders yet, but the giant spiders are just being melted
Also Echo not second in the world ethical is chat
Hey, you got this boss lower than Echo have good
Yeah, but the goal is really nice.
I like ethical, ethical is a guild that I used to play.
Is that item level accurate, 6-12?
It might be, they don't know, at least the last time I was looking into their guild,
which was in Orphanus, around the Shadowlands era,
because I used to be going all of their CD timings and everything from their Warcraft logs.
They were only like a 3-4 day guild.
So, it makes sense, they'll be at 6-12, but it's cool that when they got through the first floor,
they're like, well, what else are we going to do in our raid days?
It might as well keep going, yeah?
I always love ethical, and honestly, it's always nice to see them under it,
They've been consistently on the charts for years.
They're two girls I always keep a very close eye on.
They seem to do things very, very well.
They also use healing comps that aren't necessarily always met.
They just play the comps that they want to do well in.
They just play what their characters are good at, where it feels like, at least,
like using a miss weaver at a time where a miss weaver wasn't that crazy.
That weak aura, it's a cute map.
It does look like something that I would have drawn in paint when I was a kid.
I don't know what it's necessary.
It's classic echo, right?
This is the same thing that happened on Anduin.
It feels like an overcook, legit.
Well, it does help a little bit.
You can see when you get a mark, it shows you exactly where
you're going, so you don't have to look around the room
and see which one it is, and it's oriented the right way.
So I see why they did it.
It's classic echo.
This is a Roger Weikor, right?
He designed this.
And it's something that I've done before in Anduin,
and it worked for them, although it turned out
to not be necessary on that fight at all.
And like Mike is saying, probably not necessary here
either, but I think it can help orientate you
when you're in the midst of a bunch of ads,
and you're not sure where the mark is
supposed to go to this says that away I can I can kind of understand that I think a week or like that is
fine if it doesn't take up raid prog time in order to get working I think as soon as it starts eating
into your progression time like oh guys we need to get the week or working you know sat there for
like an hour for this mini map that in theory is just there as a small helper rather than a
hard and fast assigner for me it's going to be a bit of a waste personally that's just my
It's one of those things that I've like I'm you know accounts in the rain boxes like this some really
Small swirly's that kill you on this thing as we saw in pole number one
That if you can't see them that's way more of a concern than whether you can see raid markers to where the
The actual eggs are something because you're gonna be here for quite a few pulls you get the feeling for it
But yeah, you know if it helps it helps
I'm sure I mean there's some of these week or is that the guys have that like I just turned it off like it
Wasn't useful for me, which is fine. I don't think they're gonna shout and say dude. I can see the raid marker
I'm fine.
Yep.
Interestingly, they have nice memes and cannecks largely swapping back and forth, tanking the
boss with mirrors largely tanking the spiders by himself.
I mean, he's got a statue as well, I assume, for when it gets a little spicy.
It's not happening yet, but if he ever ends up like, you know, with serious healer people
or something.
Oh yeah.
He's using the statue.
It's going up.
It's a great cooldown.
I still haven't seen a really good control of the parasites yet, which I guess part
strategy here is that they will be dead before they need serious you know CC chains on them like
we had with the fraccads for example where we had to do that incredibly complex series of knocks
and stuns and all that kind of stuff in the infernal phase um so we know they're capable of
doing it but i think they're hoping that they can just smash it in the face before that becomes
an issue and they're rotating through with three evokers one oppressive roar per pack
increasing the duration of the next CC by 50% to try to control them pretty long, but that makes it very crucial that they get
Everything stacked up as best as possible. Are you talking about the potential of maybe Vantus being used doesn't I like it?
That would scare me as well
Taking Vantus right now and why we're not there yet guys and you guys know that
Three
What? Ventus runes? Yeah, well, there are three Ventus rune buffs, but those might be because they did Herox Flitz or something
But there are three Ventus rune buffs. I can't say that they're for this boss, but there are three Ventus rune buffs
Oh, I saw okay, maybe the ready check add-on
I know that some of them aren't all tracking some of the new buffs
So that might be why I'm getting a little bit baited there. In the logs
I have three Ventus rune buffs active on that pull. Fair enough. Fair enough.
Surely their answer I think I mean it's entirely possible. It's like we're definitely not using this character for anything else
This is like we geared it for this fight and that's it maybe close up of the
Carrion worm there was a brother gross
On this add-on was played to prefer a crab. I would prefer a crab over a worm like that
Worm to worse than spiders for me. Oh, yeah, so that's like it's not like it's not like an earth worm
Fair enough. You do your business important business. I'm sure
But just like little gross like grubs and whatnot. Yeah
Losing my mind I try to get you to start a little farm
15
Hopefully we'll be able to farm this boss by the end of the night
Oh number four by like proper pool number four
But I guess overall pool number 12 that we have on the Warcraft logs leaderboard
Hoping to get a little bit further as we were able to get through the first sector
Last time let's see if we can get to the second one a little bit cleaner. Hopefully we have a little bit better cc
No blood loss hopefully being needed to be used either
But I imagine it was a progress loss as everything went a little bit sideways
It seems to be lost in the first ads because they're not even probably called out on the ball here
They're just holding them
To to wait to use them on the the parasites to make sure that's dead
They've not lost at a spooky time then they just lost it for the beams like to just to do that
And they just lost one of the x-pots.
Okay, so that's probably most likely when they're going to be lusting for their kills.
So maybe they're going for that vibe already to check the damage.
If I was progging this fight, part of me would be like,
oh no, we'll hold lust for, you know, when we accidentally have an ad go off,
or maybe the CC goes a little bit wrong, bloodlust can always help you in that sort of fashion.
Yeah, no lust this time.
No lust at the moment.
So maybe going for that progress, lust in set place, going incredibly low
as those ads are getting grouped up.
No kick.
Stunner down.
Yeah, that's 45.
Who missed fast kick on cross?
who was it? who was it? sort your week or else
unfortunately they might they were just mucking around with plater so that might
have maybe changed some of the stuff now this is where they micro managed
the fight so corner before dead pool it's not gonna die we don't like it we
don't like this pool this is not the kill guys I'm sorry to bring that knowledge
to you. Back to puppies. Oh, that would be nice. It is worth noting. The vengeance demon
hunter might as well be a DPS. Yeah, I don't know if you've noticed, but he is top 10 damage
overall. Diagonal on pull. I don't know anything about demon hunter, but sigil of flame and
demon surge. Or I'm kind of curious. A lot of demons. Sigil of flame is there, you
know, this bungalow fire, circle on the ground. Demon surge though, I don't even
know what demon surge is. I'm more curious as to how long they're getting the other
Decays to hold their cooldowns is mini holding
Until like third wave
Could be could be it's just reaper's mark could be the one. Yeah
I think you know
It's it's silly to have everyone send all of their things when you look at this comp the amount of damage that it will do is
Incredible you want to offset it because when once it's offset ideally you then just press on cooldown, right?
you want to have this constant supply of
incredibly high burst AoE damage as soon as those adds pop out just so you can get rid of them as soon as possible.
Yeah, Mini's holding the longest of all.
Yeah, I would have thought so.
Might be holding for otherwise the weakest set.
On the pack at 140, Mini's doing 10 million compared to 4 million from the other death knights that on the first pack were doing their burst.
Yeah, so they're just figuring the damage flow.
And they're going to continue to tinker with that.
There's a huge amount of damage balancing going on here, including the spiders, the worms, parasites, and the boss.
And cooldowns are being assigned, you know, you're on this mob with those cooldowns and now you're on this pack with those cooldowns
So it's gonna be a lot of a damage tinker. I'm not laughing at you by the way
Well, I like what you're saying is very intelligent, but I just occasionally just get remind
I don't even remember
Like some costume I'm not ridiculous
I'm talking very serious.
I did the Savage Race, it's going to be lovely where we were having a serious conversation
and interview with the players and by the end of it I completely forgotten I was wearing
a dress.
It's like, huh.
Does anybody feel about the preparation you put into this race?
That is funny.
Yeah, it's one of those.
Yeah, let's follow Mini here.
I wonder if they've gone all out with a little week or saying, you're cool.
Down's next.
Maybe?
The Roofer's Bark is the one next to Salt Reaper.
see it's like a little blue with red eyes. There's a lot of blue. Oh it's the second one in from
the left on the first row at the top. That's correct. He's popping on the bus so it'll be back
through wave three so that's it does a lot of AoE so he's not wanting it for AoE. He's just
getting on cooldown so he can use it again later. Makes sense. The players will be told when
they are expected to have their burst and it's up to them how they're going to lead up to
that I'm sure Mini obviously a very very experienced death knight knowing exactly how he will min-max
his class obviously known for also doing a little bit of enhancement shaman. But uh with
uh jackob and Klicks doing a lot of work on that this time around instead. So here we
go first set of eggs are going to be broken out a hell of a lot of adds let's see if
they're able to get it under control miss kick last time hopefully we can sort that
out breathe oh no they missed some of the parasites on the grip which is something
that needs fixing is that ad pack on green supposed to have broken out as well
yes mistakes we have missed some chocolates so that's already gonna be a
wipe I wonder if they're gonna continue to keep going anyway because they will
be able to do the second set of you if you can practice a second set right
kind of it's not the set you're going to be doing like this that's what I
found but that's when you had some repair they're gonna they're not gonna
try to repair it. They're gonna ignore this egg, go practice the second set of breaks and then die.
Yes! That's gonna say, yeah. There we go. Makes sense. That was clean though. That was really
clean. Even though it was tactless. I mean it was less than they needed to kill, but they cleanly
did less than they needed to do. It turns out that when you spawn less adds way easier.
Have you seen some new striking reacts? Yeah, well they can't be just stack up,
use it while I'm cool down. One of these parasites is just not inside. Parasites near
the poles are struggling to get in a little bit. There's only a 15 yard range for that
vengeance grip. It's very small I think it's for the chain. Yeah it's not great.
Earlier the clean one they had they used typhoons and things like that to get
them within that 15 yard range so a high degree of coordination required in
order to make that work. And the evokas have a wing for every single pack.
It's got a 45 second cooldown. Matches perfectly with leg breaks so they
can do it every single time. That's unfortunately the ads that were supposed to be broken
out of the very start of the fight now coming out then and double mutated not
only are they mutated but yes the incredible dot on the radio I think it
is a two million hits hits for two million every two seconds over 30 seconds
so that thing is not chill and that's per stack and most of the time these
egg glasses in sets of two so you're gonna be going for two stacks most of
the time so unfortunately one of the egg breaks going a little bit pear
shape there yeah it's very important on this to you do still get the same purple circle around
you but it does take now two of you to break the the eggs and you have to make sure your circle
then diagrams over both of them yeah so you want to be getting like into the butt cheeks
of the eggs if you see I mean that makes sense right you get into the cleft I wasn't expecting
it to make sense but unfortunately Mike is right get your debuffs over the butt cheeks of the
eggs yeah you want to be on the cleft not on the on the outer edges because that's not gonna
line up nicely so very true taking zatsu as an average he survived well he took
three ticks dying to the third tick taking an average of one point six
million every second from it damn that is death that was through some of you're
not mucking around with that you're dead yes i can't do it i should say
mitigations isn't ever if they just move into cardinaly yeah they try fine
yeah they try to go into their light parties i think if they do some
some Earthshaker positions.
This will be good though for everybody to get settled.
I'm not surprised by this and I don't think anybody should be.
We said all the way to leading against this,
they're not gonna walk in and smash this at pieces.
It needs a lot of learning.
Yeah, obviously I got the complete wrong end of the stick
of how difficult this boss was
when we were kind of guessing, taking our guesses.
I was obviously being a little obtuse to be being,
oh, it's a one puller,
but this boss looks like it's really got some teeth.
It's gonna cause some issues for these guilds
than every guild that's coming in towards it.
Hopefully Echo, they're in a position right now though,
that they can really start catching up towards liquid,
getting into a very similar position.
So fingers crossed that their pools,
they keep high consistency,
or start to develop that high consistency
throughout these phases.
There's nothing worse than having a sector fixed
and you know exactly what you're doing with it.
You're working on sector two,
and then you just struggle in sector one
for like half an hour for no reason,
it's people trolling.
We're really hoping to avoid that.
They have got the volatile concoction under a lot more control now, no more giant spikes.
They have about an average of 1.53 million per character per hit across the entire two minutes
of them playing, which is much better than the first pull where they had one that hit
for almost nothing and another hit for all their health.
Getting that sorted out is probably the big role of both Kanax and Nice Memes who are
handling boss.
Kanax, of course, if you're confused, so are we.
Kanax in on a Guardian Druid right now.
You need to get that buff from somewhere, we don't want to have it on a healer and now
with a geared death knight it made more sense for him to go away from his guardian druid
allowing canyx to take that spot so now Frost Death Knight is going to be doing so much
damage on this fight, you can already see on the meters that he is indeed doing some
big pump-a-damm.
Here we go, jumping into the next bull.
Bulled a vote here for you Al.
When this dies, Narco is going to be so far ahead of the number zoo position that
It's gonna be crazy. I will put a fiver. Do you think that narco's gonna be top? I'm not even I'm not don't mean top
I mean top by a lot
This is the kind of fight someone like narco. He shines so brightly
This is this is one of those moments where you do draft him in to do what he does
I don't know where he finds the damage. I'm not saying anybody else is playing worse
It's just he finds it somewhere and he just
If this is if this is his heaven if you know what I mean, this is perfect moment
But we got to that nicely one thing that's not really talked about enough
I don't think on this fight. I found nasty is is the the he'll absorb. Oh, yeah constantly put on the raid is like it's
It's a ridiculous amount of HP. Oh, this is not good
Ooh a couple of parasites out there
Yeah, that's done outside the stunning grip timing is just not crisp right now. It needs to be better
I'm not missing really see the DK is gripping these in either. There's one now, but a lot of them keep wandering away happily
Merrily just truck traversing there because he's sloppy. I don't know hoping sloppy hands is going to kind of bring it in for them
And make it work. I think it's just as you're kind of getting used to it now
The person who's responsible for the air we some goes okay
I'm going to wait that extra half second actually because maybe it's going to influence some of the grips or that person who is responsible for the knockback in the north
Or the edge of the room. Excuse me might need to do a little bit of a better job at aiming that
We will see who is responsible and they'll do a little bit of review on that for sure
Here we go breaking out some more eggs right in the cleft. Yep getting that overlap dual down as the nicely knocks coming in
Oh, that's good. There we go. Look a soul actually slamming on that hunter doing a lot of damage with the mm
Right that shut up on Zenon, baby
Yeah, that volley coming down doing an absolute ton of damage with the trick shots those ads causing no issues whatsoever
Although the parasites unfortunately spreading at least with one of them. That's lovely that one in the goo also
Hopefully going down soon. Oh come on boys good
The fix-a is on Sol, so that fix-a is going nowhere because it's moving through the boss
underneath all that melee, just natural cleave.
This is what we want to see, brutalising everything that's sponsored.
We've got a double fix-a here, a big egg, and a few are still the clearest to what's
about to come.
Those little eggs, those are going to be your little parasites.
That big giant egg is going to be the large spider, and the medium-sized egg on the
green, where Mini is right now, is going to give you the worm.
And the worm can't be moved, it needs to interrupt him.
big spider is going to be coming after the tanks and the little parasites do that.
And ideally these little parasites would be killed on top of the worm.
They're actually wasting a fair amount of damage here where that worm could be getting absolutely slapped.
That's something that they can improve because now that worm is also within the goo.
The goo is like getting a larger and larger.
You're restricting 10 of your DPS, all of the melee DPS, being able to hit this worm.
It's wasted cleave right now but that's something that is min-max and done over time.
The worm is still dead. We're coming out of this sector with two parasites following us.
Hopefully we're able to get them down before they start spreading too much, looking like we might be quite happy.
Yeah, into a fighting shot there. Nice.
Yeah, you're absolutely right. I think they're doing that because they think it's easier for knocks,
but I'd prefer a double knock onto one of the pyrocytes to make sure the worm is in there.
Just to make sure, because that worm would be dead so fast.
Yeah, it depends on obviously if they need to do that, like how many maxes you need to be, X, Y, Z,
all clicks unfortunately going down, you really can't afford to take a swirl even if the group is this low.
Nice to heal up on the top of it.
They don't have a heal cooldown for this absorb.
Yeah, they are just not getting a heal through in time.
Damn!
But this is still progress. This is the first time I've got here where they're going to live.
That heal absorb just wiped them out though.
Yeah, unfortunately taking out three people, it's really quite rough.
Obviously Potion will be looking at that, seeing what we can do in order to remedy the situation.
But unfortunately, unable to control the odds of this many players dead.
Echo is unfortunately going to be going down here.
Um,
sector one looking alright.
So that heal absorb is fixing.
Heal absorb is fixing.
Obviously with only three healers, it's hard to have enough cooldowns to handle every single heal absorb.
Easily the person gets rewinded off second one gets rewinded off third one gives this preschool downs and now we need to do something
Question about question about question about they're gonna be fixing that
But for heathstone lull and that might be I mean it's a heavy heal absorb
It's massive and it keeps reapplying as well. It's very frustrating. Yeah boss over the course of the ingest
The ingest cast where she's eating at the canister
Doing far more rate damage than she normally just passively sends out
So it's very very dangerous. You've really got to pay attention to the swell is showing that even on work mode as well
It can be very very dangerous as that cost is going out. So best keep an eye on yourselves
Echo should be relatively happy how things are going though. I would say it
Yep, this is what they need to do that first sector looking a hell of a lot easier
And more in control than our pools but a few
What about 30 minutes ago also when they really started pulling this boss in earnest?
Yeah, I mean we're 15 poles in including the ones from yesterday. They're pulled by five times
They're good.
Oh yeah.
We're okay.
They're finding their pain points, they're fixing them, some little tweaks and then some
min-maxing necessary.
Like, you know, Alex looking at that worm, it's like, eh, we're kind of just losing
literally like probably a billion DPSs and some stupid ALE cleave that could just be piled
into that worm so we don't even have to think about it.
Look at the healing meters, by the way.
We need more healing, please, guys.
All of the healers do look over one and a half million HPS.
Come on, fix it.
One heal.
Who?
Cannex can trunk, right?
Sorted.
Sad.
Look at the chief look at the package!
Oh!
Just pop out of airform and go tree real quick, it's fine.
There's nothing to take at that point, it's easy.
It's fine!
They've got two spares.
Oh man.
Press a button, will ya?
Seems like you can see them all looking on their other screens at the moment as they are having a little bit of a kick-shot.
Well, I assume this is Potter's department.
Uh, is Potter trying to...
Yeah, but this is Potter's domain now to figure out what needs to be done here to fix this.
Are you still saying that as Pov?
Because obviously he's got, that has got his UI set up just right for Chris Potter.
Chris Potter obviously being the outside healing officer this tier returning after a little
break after Shadowlands, which it's fair.
But also another element here is people, we saw they might have to take a little
bit of a, they've had a lot of people swap.
They are multi-classes, but they've also been gearing for the last few days for the roles
they were going to play, people like Dannear and etc.
Just swapping ret isn't quite as good as someone who's been gearing specifically for
ret.
True.
And they might run into that Unap problem that they had, which is like, yes, technically
these classes are great, but we're not master classes at this role like it, right?
Yeah.
And you do have to accept that sometimes.
Like for this being like we need every single scrap of damage.
I'm not saying that's the situation we're in today, but we have five pulls.
It's you know the point out is like quite getting out of this what we need
Would be better doing x y and z instead even if it's like suboptimal
They map that might be something they find as they start getting towards phase three of this fight is like em
Okay, we're not really getting what we wanted
You know, they're probably looking at maybe what liquid is doing the looking what other people do is like, okay
We expect all you DK's to be over three million
By this point is like well, we're not but also our damage profile is different. So oh, yeah, so they really can't
compare at all until you start getting to very set points like as we're going into the second
you know area of the room um what's the boss percentage like as we get into the third was the
boss percentage like there there's also things you might want to compare but in terms of like raw
number to raw number um not always that helpful as you know um sure one guild's aoe uh that maybe
their warrior is doing like four billion hb dps but that's because all there are the dps are
more focused on single targets so it's allowed the warrior to kind of pad some more there's
There's lots of elements like that going on.
What was the fight in Siege of Orgrimmar, where you left all the guys from one person away?
Yes, that was General Nazgrim.
Yeah.
Yeah, we used to roll each week to see who would get to kill all the adds on that fight.
Would you have a...
...spoil it for anyone?
No, no, but it did make it so that when I...
That was like me coming back to the game after stopping, like, in Cataclysm.
I came back for a Siege of Orgrimmar farm.
No, I ended up supporting the Vienna Miss Bandai, even excuse me, but I came back for a seed
of welcome out during farm and as soon as we made our guild, I was just like, no one's
batting! Our logs are not to be in show, because I can't do a bat.
Yeah, no, it's fair enough. It's like, I know that at least during farm periods it
could be a really fun thing for people to really want to optimise in min-max, but
during prog, I'd rather people no die and people just kill boss.
Yeah, yeah, the strategy stays the same.
Yeah, same.
How's boss damage looking?
Uh, Jesse?
Oh, I've just been looking at the healing a little bit. I need to stop talking about rewind
Which is almost irrelevant in the face of this engulf build with everyone stacked like this the average engulfs healing for 50 million
Percast is kind of wild. Well, everyone's in a nice nice tidy ball. It's a very perfect little stack
Yeah, so um pure boss damage, of course currently a little bit on the sideline
But I can tell you that there's three of one class at the top of that meter
all of which are test knights
Reapers mark obliterate and reapers mark obliterate and reapers mark followed by a rogue and then your two warriors
So where's the major that then? I mean, we've only got Jinji in at the moment. I believe that's true
And if I gone one more that would have been Jinji. He's a number six currently on pure boss damage
Interesting because didn't how much we thought arcade majors would be absolutely slamming every single opportunity that they get it seems that in this
sort of situation, other classes really being able to take advantage of all of the additional
adds to being able to splash damage back onto the boss.
Really just relentless A.O.E.
You have pretty much, you have most of your tools, every wave, you're only missing like
a couple of cooldowns per wave, you don't even got to breath for everyone or anything
like that, but for everything else, you're going to have pillar, you're going to have
remorseless winter, you're going to have all the holding blasts you want to pummel
into them, that's not going to be something that's slowing you down because it's consistent
constant cleave. I'm gonna be really interested once they get into the big spiders, which are a lot
more HP if there's cleave ball, which is what they're hoping for. Is that Mira's talk to me?
That looks like Mira's, yeah, there we go. Okay, they're refuting the bots. I need the bathroom.
Okay, so should we, it can be listening to some music for a sec while we have a quick
bathroom break while they're cooking again, please, production. Excellent. Okay, so we're
we're gonna do that. Yeah, back. There it is. And we are back here. We're jumping straight
back into another poll. Just as I sat down, welcome back to the race to our first here
and the narrow bar Palace echelon working on Brew Twister, the fifth boss out of eight.
They are they've been working all morning to get themselves in a strong position. They
have made what is I'd happily call a bit of a nutty comp. And let's see how strong
we're going to be. Unfortunately, I'll call it on the ground of this pool.
Big DPS on this first fix as he's back up because he is going to be somebody who's going to be dominating
These parasites coming out as you can see you're probably looking at the comp here thinking what the hell happened. Yeah, mate
Same dude. Yeah, they have made one of the full
twisting blading murdering nightmare melee blood bath
Comps you could imagine. Oh, yeah, that their goal here is simple kill boss passively cleave
absolutely everything you possibly can all the time and just nuked the boss and
anything that happens to stumble near the boss will just die by sheer presence but
everything here is really deadly things they probably didn't think about being
too much like the purple swillies it just got knackered are you getting hit by
those you are dead oh yeah especially with this heal absorb even if the the
healers are trying to top you the fact is you took all that damage when you
have a massive absorb and you the healers have to get through first before
But so far we have seen a relatively clean sector one which they're buffing the parasites
Because that cleave is so strong that they should be able to deal with those mutated parasites
Which have like so much more health you can see they've been gripped in clicks and revers unfortunately going down
Oh, it just goes to show that as that boss pulses out that raid damage applying that healing absorb
And then add spawning at the same time just one little melee here is more than enough to unfortunately
Send you deep into the abyss and as soon as one player dies everyone else decides to join them
Yeah, it does go that way. This bus is a lot more fragile than I was expecting it to be.
Oh yeah, it just, it all crumbles to dust as soon as you put any sort of pressure on the raid,
and as soon as the raid breaks, the whole thing goes wrong.
Although we've not been seeing any like pushes or fixes or changes to buses,
there was some interesting discussion in my stream chat this morning,
that like there was stories flying around that Russian Arm is actually too easy,
and it's why they're looking to put some walls up in the raid
We did not have it just fall over and be kind of like a wet noodle.
I'm not sure that's true though, just the stories that are flying around.
A lot of Crackbot theories do fly around at this time, especially when you run into such
a tough boss in boss 5, and of course we're at boss 5 and they have a choice of where
to go.
They do not need to be here.
They could go and attack boss 6, but boss 6 looks way worse.
It does, yeah.
Kai Vezer has an incredibly high health pool.
Like both of these bosses, if you think mechanically speaking in terms of their
mythic changes, nothing too nuts.
Sure, you need to have two people break out an egg, but a weak aura, it just carries the whole thing, and the ads are scarier.
It's a short way of saying it, right? And the mookah, there's an occasion you've got to charge the ads through the boss,
but it's just the way that the heroic mechanics have been turned up in their lethality so, so much.
I'm happy with it, because what we're seeing, Alex, is exactly what we asked of Blizzard, is this is a far less add-on-reliant style of encounter.
This is all visual, you do not need an add-on for much of anything here.
Put me a break it. I don't think so. You think breaking that pretty high coordination
It's a quarter of it in mythic. Sure. You need missing a hundred percent game markers and you need those kind of things
So yes, we are getting assigned that but generally speaking everything else. I agree. It's scary. This is not something like
Mid-tier bosses where we would see like quite a heavy week or a usage
So in order to deal with the mechanics most things here are very very visual and I would say this fight in particular
We haven't seen what's coming later is possibly the most out on reliant one and that's just to mark these people. Oh orange is
Fine. Thank God. Okay. Nice grip one of the parasites is out which could be dragged in by slappy hands
There it is in order to lock them down
Clips is a little low but it's okay. It is scary so so scary. They click some might of spiders
I'm not sure maybe got bit by a spider or
Parasile on him. It's hard to say glad that you managed to survive with us there a couple of these parasites
You see the vortex going down in combination with that ring of peace making it so the parasite isn't really sure what dimension
It's in can we go to so only one that's painful. I feel like sol is entirely responsible for mop up
Yeah
There's so zoomie that's how fast they are once they get going in rocking rolling
So it's going to see another bunch of parasites are all knocked into the middle
They're all dragged together and they should hopefully be stunned before they can cast their
Fixed Satan at all so they'll just sort of have to do another cast in place before they start trying to invest anybody
That's the goal and as you can see the worms and this naturally dying as other big spiders in this entire mess
So the tanks on scene doing that up most to make sure the boss is on top of anything that needs to die
In fact, let's see now, Alex.
We have seen, see this double parasite pack.
Are we gonna reposition the boss
in a way that that worm is going to, we're not.
We're not.
And also, can you see there's one egg that wasn't broken?
I see that big boy is about to say hi.
It might be actually just doable
if you put the two players directly
in between the green egg and that egg.
There's a solo.
A weird little, no, I don't think it's far enough.
Never mind, yes.
So unfortunately, we are gonna have one ad go off here,
which is chances are gonna kill everyone.
Yeah, with three healers there's no way you're going to be able to go through that unfortunately.
Rough, unlucky, but the rest of it was looking quite nice, it was unfortunate.
That ad coming out, if we did break it out, managed to get in that big spider out,
I honestly would think would make the biggest difference.
Yes.
So, unfortunate that we weren't able to do our break, it seems like our players need to focus a little bit more
closely on making sure that they're at their correct assigned egg.
But assuming we can get that done, we should be in a good position.
I do find this positioning odd of the boss there, I'm with you Al, they're obviously doing it so the parasites don't spread, because the one pack would need a double knock in order to make this work.
So they must have thought, okay, let's kill parasites then worm, but if you could do it ever even so slightly, over a little bit, you would be able to do all the parasites and the worm at the same time and then be far cleaner going off to sector 2, that is the end of sector 1, in order to push forward.
much push forward, but they're aware of that, they're not crazy. They've obviously decided
this is a far better solution.
Yeah, and it's also something that once this becomes like a fine art where they very rarely
have problems in this first area, then in theory they might go, you know what, actually
we can do that. It feels unachievable now because even doing the baseline strategy
is something that is causing them grief.
This is a bigger concern.
Yes, but like once the baseline strat is there and they're getting through the
phase more often than not, then you can start going, actually what was once
hard like an hour ago. I think we could probably do this new strat. I think that's an easy evolution
to make it so we can get a bit more dam out but that might be something that is only necessary once,
you know, oh crap we're hitting in rage and we do really need to make sure we're getting as much
single target damage out onto the boss as we can. We are already seeing a couple of big improvements
there obviously they messed up the coordination of egg breaking however the knocks into the
demon hunter grip went very very smoothly no packs left out there not going to need to be
something that they practice consistently enough to do throughout the course of the
entire fight so good to see that going well and that we are chipping away more
and more at the boss health as we move around as we optimize our damage obviously
that gets better pull by pull of the forces dozens of clothes we're dealing
with a difficult boss like this yeah every single time like until we get to
the end of the fight we don't know if the DPS some point what we can say no
is the actual damage profile looks way better in the last seven pulls on these
parasites they're consistently dying now maybe one is hitting a melee that's
That's about it. If you're going to bring such a melee stack comp, obviously, it's extremely
easy for one of these worms just to get that one cast up. What is that?
Totally, priest. Just bouncing back and forth this giant halo.
That's beautiful.
It's so good.
Yeah, I haven't really seen that animation before.
I can't remember which Herotite allows them to do that. I remember hearing about it,
thought it sounded awesome, and it certainly looks awesome.
Doing a ton of healing there. You can see both Ryzen and Zartzi very high up on
the HPF.
Yes, you see all healers doing over 2 million hps basically 6 million hps needed to get through the
Ingest phase there, but all of the ads getting nice and grouped up by the looks of it doesn't look we've got many if any infest going off
We do have a couple
Also went on to now, so I think that was one of the problems there, but I think we're gonna be alright
So yeah so far so good
We're going to be dragging the boss over towards the second set of eggs within this area of the room
This little sector triple parasites coming out here. This one's rough. This one is a difficult one indeed
So hopefully that they can get the correct amount of knocks needed
And they'll just get the ads all nicely gripped up
Oh, some of the players going incredibly low taking damage about to come in with a set of swirlies as these ads all come in
So much needed all at once, but it looks like Echo had been managed
The warriors are happy. The warriors are spinning to win and this will be relying on the other two death knights as well
This will be Mini and Robin's pack to demolish as fast as possible a couple of them getting out
But that's fine again. You see Saul immediately swaps to them. He's got an interrupt to do
Around there, but he's gonna keep working. There's a lot of parasite spawner
They didn't quite have enough damage to clean it up
So they're gonna try and tie this up there passing cleave is so good that if the fixating people do move away
and just keep the Parasites near the boss.
All that melee is going to chunk through these
and still be damaging the boss.
New eggs incoming and the boss not really
in the position that you wanted,
but fortunately the boss can be dragged
whilst these players are getting themselves
into position one, Parasites still up.
It feels like people are taking the whole idea
of don't ever not hit the boss
a little bit too seriously at this point in progression.
I'd rather have those Parasites cleaned up
a little bit quicker,
but it looks like we are able to do it that.
I am like, it's getting a little bit cleaved on as well,
Which is a I'm sure all of the players who are DPS would just like yeah, I would also like to leave that one
How much better than this because all the knowledge they couldn't help earlier, right?
That was the problem now as they ended up in the blue and the melee are like
Dude, we can't hit it like what one thing you are paying for with that though is by grabbing the spider ad and putting it close
To the worm ad chances are that is also going to get me tated increasing the health of the spider
But it's not a big deal in comparison. You can drag that spider over towards this second area
You can see them dragging the boss as far away as they can from the second sector while still making sure that it is the closest one
So the boss chooses it for this next ingest cast last time we didn't get through with healing here
Let's go from a healing point of view and see if we can survive
Yeah, the healing absorb here is what eradicated echo this healing absorb right here
You can see how bad his gingers on like two percent jack up is wall wall is nearly dead as well
They don't really have much. They're doing him to try and solve it
Hopefully frag always teetering up two percent
to try and get rid of that giant healing absorb that goes into the raid
because the incoming damage is going to be here in a second
and the players just have to stick through it.
They've got to rely on their healer buddies to get them through it at this point
because they've got to be here in the cleave death ball.
Let's see how quickly these giant spiders die now
because they are now mutated in this phase.
The big spade and obviously the mutations and the parasites from earlier
are going to be completely mutated for the entire fight.
So they did the parasite phase first.
They're going to be remain mutated and now the big spiders do seems they're still alive
But not much they've got like five percent left now remember they are putting a healing
Healing immunity onto the tanks. Yes stacking healing immunity. So at some point I think it's like six or seven stacks
The tanks just cannot be healed. Yeah, it's quite a quite painful healing reduction being placed on the tanks right now
And you can see I'm just watching from Ryzen's pov at one point
I would love for the healer to catch up
It feels like no point since they go into this phase has it felt like they are safe those poor guys working their hearts out
They're gonna be wrong. There's that one second where there was no healing absorbs and everyone was at full health
And then back to work
We went they did move a couple healing cooldowns there and it got them through the way of the weapon before this is
Significant progress on the second set of X here in seconds platform. Yeah, this is we haven't gone a far this before
Unfortunately, the worm cast getting a little bit out of control here. Mara's going down
We're gonna continue to slam on through
We've only four players dead clicks using his aunt just to make it so they're going to get the longest pull that they possibly can
A new best percent down on this bus that worm that's in the goo is going to need a hell of a lot of kicking as it has got a
50% cast speed increase be mine be able to get through this set of ads which I'm kind of shocked about nope
There we go. I was going to say
Well done very good. That's exactly what we want to see. Yeah
It is that is a wonderful little addition some tweets that we've spotted and are being addressed by the team
It's happening and the damage profile the big spiders
Seam okay. I mean they are you three tongue in here to spread that debuff around a little bit
This this is a build this comp in title relies on us if we get each egg suck right
It will all die. Mm-hmm
I can see we need to practice we need poles. We need to get familiar. Yeah, it's now go to the point that each
individual
Section of the room is a series of three overlaps that they need to learn right? It's not just ads are coming and kill them lol. That's about it
Each one requires a very set course of CC and it's a set course of healing cooldowns needed DPS cooldowns needed
And so we've got basically nine
Overlaps of ads that we need to handle let alone each time the boss is casting the ingest which is another three
So for Helens there's 12 overlaps to learn the DPS mainly 9 overlaps to learn so far
We've got for about three maybe four of them
So a way of thinking of the bosses that we're about you know
Just around 30% of the way through maybe maybe close to 40% 50%
Yeah, if only so the
The interesting thing there I think is that they went about four minutes with no deaths and they mechanically did everything correctly
directly up up until that exact moment they had the healing cooldowns covering the overlaps perfectly they managed the grips perfectly
They were killing the ads perfectly
They had a mechanical error cause a couple of deaths where
Someone got hit by a swirly on the ground at about four minutes
And then someone else died to an infest because when the parasite catches up to infest you that does a lot of damage
Yes, a couple seconds off his kick went off
So this was a mechanical error and on a strategic error
Which is exactly what you want to see and that also contributed to mirrors is death now mirrors is the one tanking all of the worms
and I'm sorry the spiders I apologize he's taking all the spiders so this is
the first section where he's gonna actually be in danger and that's point
that poison stacking up so high means that he now is in the point where any
massive mistake is going to instantly execute him which is exactly what
happened the poison burst went off Mirrors his life was no longer
sustainable it's gonna be interesting to see what they do in order to make
sure he stays alive as he's dealing with these spiders because they got the
other tanks tanking the boss under control with those concoctions going
off not being that big of a threat anymore. Do you know what you would do if this was maybe
three or four expansions ago? 100% you would have Silmaros on the brewmaster, he would be
responsible for the adds, but he would not take a single melee hit. He would pick them
up and he would run. He would just run. I don't know what would even be a valid strategy
in this particular version. You need to come back and try to pick up the adds again and
then leave, but I think they are probably a little bit too speedy. Slows and things
not working on the spiders as far as I'm aware and of course you can't do other
parasites because they get faster and faster over time.
I'm sure I got a replay of that, I'm not sure where our audience actually caught how fast that little parasite was, that chased someone down.
It was so fast.
Yeah, they're full zoomy boys at that point. The big spiders are very very fast.
And then also the room denial gets more and more and more, but I mean you
would be saving a lot of damage that's needed to bring them down because
because they have millions of HP, though, that expires, so they have a set of needs, I think.
Yeah, thank you.
Interestingly, we saw Healing Cooldowns move to cover that, to overlap the kill them on the previous pull,
but the important thing here is that the actual Healing Cooldowns aren't as important anymore
as the uncapped healing being done by Engulse and Halos, which are out healing even the Divine Hems and the Rewinds.
So, he had to divine him into that reverberating Halo that did an absolutely absurd amount of healing on that overlap.
Halo by itself was 23 million here.
Can we look at damage profile for spikes?
I imagine like you pointed out earlier is that you get this brief respite for a second and
immediately spikes.
Are we looking at constant just spikes?
It's a constant massive sign wave.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I was expecting it to look like.
It's just like bang, bang, like a hammer, like a very rhythmic hammer just banging
down onto the raid all the time.
You have a second and it's bad again.
It's almost hard to tell because a huge portion of the threat isn't actual damage intake, it's
the healing absorb that makes it impossible to recover damage intakes.
So you get the huge healing absorb and then someone gets hit by an infest and you can't
get the healing absorb off in time to heal them from the infest.
And the infest is the big kind of purple mouth looking debuff you've seen on a couple people's
raid frames.
Start taking a lot of damage.
The clicks was one of them.
You mentioned that you didn't know what happened with him.
That was an infest.
It actually hits very hard and if you got a heal absorb at the same time, use
everything or become deceased, which is what happened later to someone who is about to kick
a worm.
I really don't blame Malay for getting invested as well if you really look at what's going
on.
Now the time that those ads come out, not only is your entire game completely full of
frayed frames, nameplates even, but Swirlies happen at the same time so you've got to
avoid the parasites by going slightly towards the boss to not get the initial threat.
Whilst also dodging the Swirlies and then pulling back away from the boss before
They have time to actually fixate you whilst also doing your giant burst damage required to take them all out
It is far from being a super easy thing to do
I can see how players are making small mistakes here and there as
This fight can get very very difficult to see what's going on in melee is one of the curses of having so many melee players
So many swirlies to dodge and you're quite difficult and they're not entirely baitable
You can just go around as like one little pixel stacked group
Which would actually be probably what they do is like everyone say on the left side of the bar
we'll go to the right side and just kind of like go between those two spots.
Unfortunately, that strat is not available to them as those Swirlies do what they want.
And what they want to do is kill Echoes of Melee to them.
More and more often we're seeing all these mechanics.
We're talking about, yes, they have a Rashman.
It's like, yeah, it kind of targets you.
But also it just goes wherever it wants as well.
Yes, to prevent exactly that.
Blizzard has gotten so much better.
I mean, we've talked about that about Kaising adds.
They've gotten so much better with predicting.
And we saw this a lot in a near-to-seal.
how raiders would typically respond to this mechanic and going,
okay, let's make sure they can't do that.
They, Tindral was the epitome of that.
Every idea they thought you might come up with
to cheese this or bypass it.
They were like, well, we've thought of that.
I'm not gonna let you do it.
I'm gonna see evidence again of that here
by making that work.
And I do say, yes, StarForge PCs are phenomenal
at giving them the FPS in these raids
while this is happening.
I would have full considered name plates on and off
on this fight.
it too yeah it's wild this is one of the craziest melee fights I've seen and I
do not envy them their tasks because dodging all those furlies with 30 name
plates on and getting your kick on the worm and then imagine one of the worms
gets loose you saw how fast they were going when we swapped that range to you
which is actually relatively calm looking at soul out in the open able to
see everything that worm gets loose in melee and fix it so there's nothing you
can do it's running a hundred miles an hour you you get caught
entirely right you are entirely right it looks like the way I get in some
jumps around which have given me vibes that we might indeed be jumping into one more pool fingers crossed that we are
Yeah, this is gonna be constant micro management. Yeah, this is kind of like, you know, what's weird
This is the kind of prog path path that we saw with something like for act. Yes, boss by that
Which is like, okay, we get 30 seconds ahead
Now we need to change a bunch of things and okay, let's get the next 30 seconds
Okay, now I need to change one things. I don't know how hard is that other was in several hundred poles
But it will be a case of hopefully 30 seconds to fix then we can keep going.
It's just nine little micro encounters. That's the way I think of it.
Nine micro encounters with like small things in between obviously, but knowing,
okay on pack four I do this, on pack five I do this.
But also you're not always going to be in the same location.
You might be having to go out of webs.
You can't always be responsible for knocking this set of ads in or doing this at CC.
You need to be on your toes and ready to help your allies.
You can't rely entirely on a spreadsheet to carry you through this one.
need backups, need communication, need to be able to help one another.
That is something that of course Echo being a very well established team are good at.
They just need to continue pulling, get those reps in and keep doing these small little micro changes.
Yeah, one of Miraz is reassigning some people. We see Miraz very quick.
I wonder if he's swapping some people.
He's up to no good.
Yeah, he's going to be sending information out to the guys.
So as they get this little bit deeper into the fight,
is well worth and like okay this is what you're going to be doing now i'm going to remind you of it
i'm going to make a week order for it and send that this way yeah this is his job this is what he
does he'll be being fed volatile concoction that is the tank debuff yep that if they are insufficient
health kills the raid i thought it was i thought it was something else someone me being silly
i thought it was the um debuff that you used to break people uh break the eggs out no no
No, no, no. That's something else, yeah.
Something else, I'm sure.
And the volatile concoction, even though it's gotten under control now,
is by far the largest source of damage taken for the raid.
It's about one and a half million per player per hit,
and it's going off constantly throughout the fight
as an alternate between both nice memes
and Kanax, who are the two taking it,
doing about 26% of the overall damage to the raid.
Do you think that, not saying this boss needs nerfing right now
for the people that are working on it,
But maybe in the future if this boss was to be changed that seems like quite a large source of damage in a fight
That's already got a lot of income and damage
It's that something you think needs to be fixed or when you go into this of a normal comp when you have like four healers and two
Tanks, it'll be fine. I think I think if that's more likely to be fun particularly because they have built in the time
Gated buff to the raid that's gonna kind of nerf this raid over time anyway
Normally, I think this kind of boss would be nerfed with mechanical changes a reduction in add speed a reduction in number of ads
Reduction and CASP, things like that because it's the mechanics that are causing difficulty here.
And I'm not saying it needs to be nerfed, it's not.
Yes, no, no great boss.
We're on pull at it.
No one wants that.
I'm not saying that we do, but I was thinking maybe in the future.
One place you do like touching the bosses after they come out.
I think the fact that they are three healing it and only two tanks handling the volatile concoction
and it's under control means that that's probably just fine.
The trades will four or five heal it to have ikans on the tank and it'll be much easier.
The thing to remember here is that there is no real tank healing in this healer comp.
That's true.
It's just all AoE healing, with a certain amount of triage healing from Ryzen, they don't have
beacons.
Out of interest, is Fraggo playing Org in this comp?
Yes.
So if he is, then of course he could be fraying out those obsidian scales, helping out the
tanks a little bit.
That's a no-way sense interview, yeah.
Not as much as having two Orgs would be, though, of course, when you have one
on each tank generally looking after your own dedicated tank with a obsidian scales buff.
And I think that comp changes are something that are definitely on the menu. As they start
getting some of these damage profiles out there they might start looking at things like perhaps
seen hand shabbings which are doing great boss damage but aren't contributing nearly as much
overall as some of the other classes. And it could be the case that an AUG making sure that
everyone's getting buffed instead of just five players will be more overall gains when numbers
are this high. Especially having that extra oppressive roar, having that extra knockback
available, as well as of course increasing everyone's damage, maybe making the tank slides
a little bit easier, a little bit of a zepher going on as well, of course augmentation of
just having everything that you want as a raid leader to make it so everyone is healthy.
But still early days, we're not running into a point which is impossible for us all of it.
As you've pointed out Jesse, the failures that we've had on some of our best pulls
have just been whoops, I stood in the swirly and I couldn't get my kick and then everyone died because of it
You know that kind of mechanical play which just improves over time
And it's something that echo of course will be fixing as a ready check has gone out as we're heading into pool number 19 of
Brew twister a boss that I thought would have died 18 pools
You wouldn't you know I mean you're not wrong for a boss that's in this position and boss five
I mean the step up from Russian on to this is hilarious
Absolutely hilarious think about brood mother a boss that was the penultimate boss of the
Yeah, exactly. So the ads in that fight were kind of nothing burgers. Honestly. It was it was a way from the break
Yeah, and just make sure you have enough damage for the worse
He has these are certainly causing a hell of a lot of grief. So yeah now
I would like to draw your eye if we are gonna swapping through a number of POVs on here is down the bottom there
We have got a easy tracker for you guys to pay attention if you're not sure to who's you why what are they doing?
Where do I find certain information?
Boss health, energy bar, energy bar is built.
So off it goes to the canisters.
Yeah, man, man, man, man.
And you can see things like the combat time,
the combat res is the best pulls, things like that.
A glance regardless of whose POV we are looking at.
So a little bit of extra tech added for this race tour first
to make your life easy.
And if you're wondering what's going on,
there's very few of them.
So that's the heal absorb.
So you can see Fraggle right now.
It's like one health.
Damn.
And Gains for Gamers has more health,
which is really cool.
Oh man, but our healing absorb is what's causing a lot of the deaths because the damage hits like Revers and
Wall is
dying to get some HP than is in that position so these guys are flowing around two to three percent HP
But the healing absorb obviously putting a stop to the healer's efforts
And it's just constantly going out if you just pay attention on this pull guys to the raid frames and watch how often this healing
Absorb is applied to the raid and you'll see what Jeth was talking about a very brief moment of levity
for this healing team and why we saw it just in phase 2, they were already at like 30%
Yeah, it was looking a little bit rough as we're heading into the second set of ads
about halfway through this phase as we have three sets of ads that we need to deal with
here comes the eggs that are going to, the D-Waffs are going to break out the eggs
and this is one where we have three sets of parasites, a lot of parasites to deal with
hopefully we can get them all under the boss and under control, here comes the grips
There's a couple of the athletes looking seemingly on the outside.
We have got that sun at the moment.
Yes, that sun with the impressive role that should grip.
They're good knocking as well.
So we should be hopefully all right here.
Got to make sure we keep getting our kicks out though.
So far, so good.
We're chasing Genji there in the bottom corner.
So if you've got to watch, they get very quick.
They get crazy quick.
So one thing we're not liking is grips.
Obviously, four definitely individual grips.
We've got ursels.
There's a lot of control the guys can apply to make sure they're working.
if they do reach you and cast Inferst, they do hilarious damage to you, so this one they're
just leaving outside, like the boss damage they know is going to be important, so they're
working on just like cleaning those uppers again, but look how fast they start to zoom.
But they are pulling the ones that I think say it's under the boss in order to just
passively be bussed down by everybody else, which is the plan, and now they're kind
of edging just near this worm on the right.
One thing that they would be able to do with talking about maybe trying to get
the parasites on top of that worm a little bit easier. Right now, they're using the ring
of peace as like a protection mechanism in order to keep people safe. Once that's no
longer needed for that reason, you could easily ring those ads into that worm, making everyone's
life a lot easier when it comes to ad health.
So a little strategic change there, huh?
What's that?
They did the parasites there, but they didn't bother at all cleaning onto the big spider.
Instead, they brought the big spider tube worm now to do both of them at the
same time. So they got to do the parasite's ASAP, focus that, and then drag both
the girls onto the bird the boss and the big spider to kill it there so that was much cleaner
You can see the boss now having to make her very long journey over to the second canister a lot of raid damage here
You're going to see the raid very very unhappy in terms of the incoming damage
The melee are a little bit more spread than they normally are usually they're a little bit more stacked up making the avocas lives a little bit easy
Unfortunately, narco going down, but his amz will survive after him
Is it going to continue to push on through first set of x to go through unfortunately canyx
seeing what it's like on the floor there, it's not a good place to stay. As this Guardian
Druid does go down this is going to make the whole process of getting all this stacked up
a lot, lot more difficult, perfect so of course going down as well, no battle res is available
unfortunately, and I don't think I'm going to be long for this world during this pull
the Parasite is going to get a little out of control and I imagine the Kicks are
going to start going through. The chain reaction is going wrong here because everybody
is assigned to do something and the damage profile so it's been talking about, just
ready to unleash on this pocket, if you're missing one of those damage profiles the
The others can't make up for you.
It's not possible because they've used their cooldowns
by this point.
They are staggered for ex bombs.
So it's not like, it's like, okay,
you've been sat on yours for three minutes.
No, that's actually not what's happened.
The other issue is this volatile concoction
with having spider debuffs on the two people
taking the boss, means that they cannot get top
of the raid will get exploded.
Yeah, really rough, unfortunate there.
It is what it is.
It was a good attempt at pushing on through
some of the nastiness that happened
on that face transition.
something that they'll definitely be keeping an eye out for.
And unfortunately, it's something that me and Mike
will have to be keeping an eye out for from the bench,
as we are swapping over, my dude.
Oh!
Oh!
Oh, no!
Fine.
Right, it's time for us to have a little bit of a sit out,
and we're going to be passing you over to two very, very
capable castes with Mr. Geith moving from the analyst desk
over to here, who's going to be joined by OK Mage.
She gets all the fun stuff.
She does indeed.
Makeup today.
You can do makeup as well, Mike.
OK.
Don't worry, Mike.
You can do that as well.
Yes, we will be swapping over once this pool is done.
And then managers keep this pool going a lot longer.
I bought this up.
I was leading off like, oh, you know, the pool's over.
And they just kept it going way longer than I expected.
But yes, so a big, big thank you from myself and Mike.
It's been a great cast.
It's been wonderful.
three and a half thousand dollars raise the charity during this shift and we've got some
mythic, we've got to see what we're doing and we'll be back tomorrow.
Yes, we certainly will be.
I actually might be on the analyst desk during, I'll be taking Jesse's job basically.
I've got to go and run because I'm full of cake.
I was going to do the same thing, but then I could also sit at the desk and eat cake.
I see her in the distance.
Oh yes.
We'll see you tomorrow guys.
Catch you in a bit.
I'll do it.
Have me and Jesse on the couch.
This is very exciting times now.
We are deep into brood, twister.
We have a very interesting comp, which was super exciting to see.
We have the four DKs, we've got some roll swaps as well, with Cannex coming in on the
Druid tank.
We have now as one of the DKs, and they are starting in the parasites area of the room.
Absolutely annihilating the AoE here.
We have so many melee just zug-zugging, getting all of the adds down.
Yep, but they can't zug-zug too hard because if they get hit by those purple
where at least they are dead. Can we swap out a Verizon POV for a large chunk of this because right
here at the beginning the boss is pulsing out heal absorb after heal absorb after heal absorb
and you have to see the healers pumping to get those cleared off in succession as we head into
the first set of egg breaking. They're going to use Nox rings and other movement abilities to get
those parasites close enough together for the demon hunter to yoink them all in one stack
and then cleave them down. This is the first of three egg breaks they need to
happen over here. Unfortunately, okay, no, no, we're fine. We're fine. I thought maybe they missed
one, but it looks like we're okay. So far, we've had been successful to get into the second quadrant
several times. We're looking for a very clean poll and around 71% boss health by the time we get
there. We're going to move over to the second wave of eggs. The way that they've arranged
this room, you have to perfectly get every single egg out each time in a very specific order,
or you are guaranteed to have one mutated, popped by the goo, and kill your egg.
Yeah, as you can see when the boss targets the canister, it will lead onto that section of the room if any of those unhatched eggs get hit, they will mutate, so they have to be really careful about which eggs they will create.
Ooh, we missed one parasite! Look at it running around! It's so fast! There's the death coil on it, that parasite is out on its own and needs to get under control.
Yeah, they need to make sure that they are spreading for the webs as well.
These will route anyone caught in slides.
They have to make sure they're dodging the raiders as they take them out.
We did get one infest.
So another wave of parasites coming out, more difficult to control now
because you've used all your control on the first wave.
They need to keep them gripped.
They've got four death knights.
There's another infest on Cenk five.
Unfortunately, two more parasites can be coming out.
We really need to get them done within the next three seconds
because we already wanted to have this boss moved over for these upcoming egg breaks.
Yeah, this is a fight that really spirals. They can't let any of those parasites reach their
fixed target. Otherwise, two more will spawn. A little bit similar to the season one affix
in BFA, the G'Hun, the uni boys. They have the next set of parasites. They're absolutely
annihilating it. Just take a second to appreciate the damage we get to see. The Warriors absolutely
pop it off. The Frost Decays. There are so many specs that this fight heavily favors.
really really good to see there they had one set of parasites from the second
set last all the way until that third break and are still going with another
infest they have two more parasites coming out right now that need to be
under control as they run the boss to the very edge of the room to maximize the
distance that it has to slither forward to get to that next quadrant
increasing the amount of time they have to dps but these parasites really
need to get under control there's a death coil on one a grip a chain device
they're zipping along if they can just get these under control that boss is
going to start pulsing healing absorbs out so let's go back to Ryzen's POV he's
going to be blasting some halo and divine hen here we do have Vaynergo down
rep palette and out of the action but we have a battle as available if they choose
to commit it the raid getting pummeled by that healing absorb over and over right
now yeah making sure that they are dodging the squirrely is that always
going out all breaking those eggs exactly in the right order very snow
bally okay so this is the this we still have heal absorbs out oh no we're
We're gonna have more people go down because we just didn't get the heal absorbed, healed
off in time before the damage started occurring, and these parasites are not nearly as well
controlled.
Klix does Ankh, Wall Life, and Thane are down.
That's one of your arms warriors, no longer available to cleave them down in there, not
under full control.
This is the Spider Quadrant with huge mutated spiders pummeling on mirrors.
Look at his health, difficult to top when it's got stacks of that poison.
And we're kind of under control as we head to the next round of egg breaking here
in 10 seconds but three people dead now and it's gonna get worse and worse because it spirals
so quickly. Yeah they're gonna be breaking out another tank spider and also a worm so we
need to make sure they're keeping that interrupted. The spiders having 50% more HP as through all of
the adds on mythic when they get empowered so they have to make sure they're putting so much
damage into the spiders as you can see the parasites going out making sure they are
absolutely controlled. Velo just got erased there and with one healer down this pull will
not last very long. Still good to see another second quadrant pull. That is the goal as
they start working through the issues they're here seeing here. Zatzi also goes down. Rison
now solo healing which means he simply cannot keep up with the damage, particularly with
three tanks getting pummeled with Volotov and Cochran and one with a series of mutated
spiders. Two tanks go down. This is over.
Yeah, because not only is there so much damage required to take down all of the adds
in the fight, there's so much of high healing requirement here especially with them
running three healers as well and we also have three tanks. I can't remember the last time we had a
three tank comp in the race. Maybe back in Heimlo, if I remember. It was more recently than that.
In Battle for the Zara lore there were three tanks used on Mecha Torque in Old Deer, a couple of
guilds three tanked the Fetted Devourer. As recently as the ex-boss, I don't remember its
name in the Naila that tiered a soccer boss, Zanesh. Oh my goodness, I remember. Zanesh was
also a three tank, at least for the Mesa team, which used Marco on a prop palette in order
to manage some more kicks. So it does happen, although it is relatively rare, but some good
progress being made here as the team works through all of the different coordination checks
that occur throughout this fight. Each egg break is unique. You have eight debuffs go out,
two of which are required to break each egg they break four sets of eggs on
each break each of those combinations has a different number of parasites
spiders and worms that require a different number of kicks a different
amount of stops on the parasites and of course mirrors picking up those big
spiders so it's a different coordination check every time they move to a new
chunk of eggs and they need to learn it one by one at the same time they
have several different dangers overlaps that they have to learn how to heal
with only three years yeah absolutely and it's nice to some people may be
asking of, but with the three tanks aren't you losing a lot of damage from having the third tank?
Not necessarily because you're getting three buffs there, allowing you to then bring in more frosty
keys which are really well suited to this fight. Having a lot of AoE while not necessarily losing
anything on single target, absolutely blasting. So you can bring in those extra dps that are
very well suited. Yes, and also not as well known, but certainly true. If we scroll down
Just a little bit further on the damage meter. We would see nice memes on the demon hunter actually doing DPS levels of
Damage he has sigil flames and other demon hunter abilities popping off in these aoe situations
We currently have canyx and nice memes trading off tanking the boss
They have to swap every time they get hit with a volatile concoction
After that debuff hits them
They have to be at full health or as close to as possible because the more health
They are missing when it explodes the more damage the rate takes they've got that largely under control
Then Mears is tanking the Spiders, the mutated versions, which are extraordinarily dangerous
and stack up a poison that makes them essentially unhealable, and that's why there are 3 tanking.
If you have mutated Spiders, that will prevent a tank from being topped for the volatile concoctions.
So the Spider Tank basically can't tank the boss effectively, certainly not with
Rehealers, because you are unable to top the tank and the Raid will take too much
damage for the volatile concoction.
Without that mechanic, you might see 2 tanking, and that might be a target of
nerfs in the future when this boss potentially gets nerfed for future guilds.
Yeah it would be interesting to see if this is going to be the DPS comp that we're going
to keep as we get deeper into progress.
I doubt it.
Yeah because at the moment they've got so much AoE and I wonder how much boss damage they
may or may not be lacking as we get further and further into the fight if we'll see some
swaps.
But they do have two shamans.
I believe they've got an Enhance and maybe an Ellie.
I don't know which spec.
I thought they were both playing in haunts, but it's difficult to tell because both of them are boss damage specialists and are very down on the meter because of that.
Yeah, they have very significant funnels, so they will be absolutely blasting the boss damage.
Funnel being the more targets around a priority mob, the more single target damage you do to that priority mob.
So the shamans are doing so much.
And as well, even the Arcade Mage has snap funnel, so that will be dealing a little bit of funnel in into the boss as well.
But I do wonder, right now they have really good out of control, they have a lot of AOE.
I wonder if we're going to see any changes as we go through, depending on how much missing
HP the boss has towards the end of the fight.
Yeah, we may see.
Of course the mage has a guaranteed spot because of that arcane intellect, so it doesn't
matter how much boss damage Jinji is doing, he will be there.
The Shaman spot is a little bit more questionable because while they do get some funnel and
they do good boss damage, the death knights in this situation are doing more add damage
and more boss damage.
This is a tailor-made fight for them.
Ideally, I'm sorry, choked there, ideally, with three segments in the room, you would
want to see the boss going to 66% then 33% then 0% at the third.
We've been seeing the boss transition from the first to the second quadrant at about
71%.
So a little bit off, of course, usually not using less than that first section.
There's, you know, learning will increase damage.
But right now it looks like we're probably not on track to kill the boss by the end
of the fight.
So we're going to see some tweaks.
What those tweaks will be remain to be seen.
Yeah, we saw them doing some extra splits today,
putting gear into Perfecto's DK.
We'll also see Thana on the Rep Paladin as well.
I wonder if that's gonna change.
That might change.
That's one potential target
because while Thana is doing excellent AoE damage,
just sending a huge number of divine storms
and wake of ashes at the end,
Rep Paladin doesn't really gain any kind
of single target from that,
unlike the Death Knights.
The Death Knights are doing huge AoE to the boss.
I'm sorry to the to the ads and single target boss while thinner is kind of an either or switch
So likely potential swap depending on if you can find something better
But I'm unfortunately and as unlikely as it seems echo actually running into the limits of their flexibility to swap to specs
Which were not anticipated to be as good as they are because they're actually scraping the bottom of the barrel for death
Knights with I'm not calling Robin bottom of the barrel
But when you're taking your main tank and swapping him to DPS because that spec is so good
you know that you've messed up your preparation at least a little bit, although nobody saw this coming.
But perfecto swapped from a rogue onto a death knight, your main tank swapped from a bear druid onto a DPS death knight as well.
He had lots of death knights prepped for tanking, so luckily they did have that in the back pocket.
Narco also going on death knight instead of the rat paladin.
And then you bring in your DPS druid to take the tanking spot and provide that mark of the wild.
So some shuffling occurring, a testament to this boss being a real surprise to the world's first guild.
Yeah, absolutely. So when we were looking at these bosses and making predictions initially, I was thinking, you know what, Brute Twister looks like it's going to provide a little bit of a challenge, just because of the damage distribution.
This is kind of what I said from day one. They have to be really coordinated. You don't want to put too many resources into the adds because the boss needs to die, but also the adds really need to die,
especially with the tank spiders longer they're up and more damages into the tank for example
so they have to put so much damage into there and that's going to take quite a while to figure
out and feel out where the problem cooldowns what damage profiles they need and and then when
everyone else was kind of talking about it it's like ah no brood twister is going to kind of
be a bit of a walk it'd be uh not too difficult but i'm really glad to see this because we was
all a little bit worried that they might fall a little bit easily so seeing a fight that really
is challenging them, albeit for a bit is super exciting. And also seeing a composition that's
quite unusual. There's a lot of melee in there. It's giving me Lord of Dread vibes with a unique
comp because we were wondering if there was going to be any deviations from your usual
raid setup. So it's really cool. It is very cool. Definitely an interesting comp,
not the most melee that I've ever seen. Lords of Dread had something like 13 or 14 instead.
the hunters played survival. That was a really good survival tier. You had holy paladins in,
which also count as melee. This time around, your holy paladins gone red, and they're not the
strongest healer for a massive amount of AoE healing like in this situation. That's clearly,
without any doubt, the preservation of okras with this massive amount of un-gulf healing
coming from the flamethrower build of the hero talents. We are currently, apparently,
talking about some strategy, tweaking some weak ores, potentially also setting up some new
assignments in order to make sure that they are controlling these ads correctly.
Oh, pull timer's up!
But the pull timer goes up and we're heading into another pull. They are ready to go.
So what we're looking for is extremely clean work on the first quadrant because they've
gotten through that before, ideally no deaths, so they can practice the overlaps in that second
quadrant. Here we head to the altar soon and see the healers start pumping.
Yes, they want to position the boss as far away as possible, while also closest to the
canister that they want to break first which they are opting for the parasites at the start so I was
wondering how they would navigate through this room because there are so many parasites throughout
the raid and because all of the mobs gain an additional 50% HP I was wondering is that going
to add too much health across the entire fight that's going to take away too much damage from
the boss but it seems like no parasites are where we're going first as they are going to have
the egg breaks now they cannot miss any of these on mythic you need two people to break these eggs
making sure they're hatching before the blood reaches them which will now slowly go out through
the raid. All of the parasites got knocked close enough with the various wing buffets from the
evokers and the ring of peace from the monk in order to get them gripped by the demon hunter
and they all go down very very cleanly we do however have two infests on clicks he's taking
a huge amount of damage because he got double infested which means we have four more parasites
As we head to the next egg breaks in only 18 seconds, those need to be cleaned up and it's difficult to do because all of the CC is committed to that first round.
But the vortex goes down, which will certainly help Ensole doing the Lord's work of getting them killed while the melee chase over to the next round of eggs.
Get those cleaned up. The egg breaks are coming right now.
Oh, unfortunately, we do have Thanargo down. They will probably battle res him. There it is. As they head to the next round of egg breaks.
Yeah, so we're going to have some of the largest spiders, the more parasites, so this is not
only testing their DPS output and their healing output.
Genji down.
Oh goodness, there goes a cast.
Yeah, so that was an interrupt on the worm.
That was really unfortunate timing.
I'm pretty sure Genji died about one second before his kick.
Oh, so yeah.
And that's going to be, I mean they're going to keep this going as long as they can,
but it is certainly an imminent wipe because they cannot keep it under control with
that many DPS gone.
It's just impossible.
Yeah, so that's what I was going to say. Not only is it testing how much damage, the damage output, the healing output,
but it's also testing them on all fronts because it's a real combination of utility as well, keeping those parasites grouped up
so they take all the Declave and go down as fast as possible, but also so they don't reach their targets.
It's true. This is an incredible coordination check and each egg break has a different combination of parasites, worms, and spiders,
and requires a different amount and type of coordination.
So it's really a testament to the skill level on display here.
And if that weren't enough, you also have those swirlies coming down fairly quickly.
If you stand in them just a moment too long to finish a cast or to finish something you're doing,
you get hit and one shot. It's extraordinarily unforgiving.
And we've seen that happen several times. In fact, that's probably the largest source of individual error on this fight so far.
Absolutely. I wonder if they'll just probably go straight into another pull.
Not much to learn there.
They do not seem too much yet.
I think you're right. I think they're right. I think they'll probably go right into the pool. Nothing to discuss. Nothing to have learned
They want to get to the second quadrant where they could potentially see something new and then tinker with cool-down timings
Coordination assignments utility roles and thinking and healing. Yeah, so they've been going to the parasites first
Yeah, opting to go into the spiders. That's true
Second it's interesting because I think mathematically if you totaled up the amount of health that was added by the as the worms are
the smallest amount of additional health. However, you have to commit a lot of spread
out damage to kill all of the worms quickly, and if they're muted as they have a lot more
health and they're much more difficult to interrupt and kill, because you simply can't
live through a worm pass going off. You can live through the parasites running around.
You can live through them infesting people. You can live through the spiders pummeling
mirrors. That's his job to take it. You can't live through a worm going off.
It's just not possible. That's too much damage taken, which means that even though
they have the least mathematical amount of health that they add to the encounter, if you mutated them first,
they are the most obnoxious and difficult to deal with, so you actually save them for last. After them,
the parasites have the least amount of health, and then finally the spiders.
But as long as mirrors doesn't die from that stacking mutated poison, the spiders aren't a big concern.
They can die to passive cleave. In the way the parasites don't really, the parasites are getting
actively cleaved down on purpose with those reapers mark and breaths of cindagosa from the death knights.
But the spiders truly can kind of be cleaved down the only constraint on your ability to keep spiders alive is is Mirren's going to die
Yeah, so that's absolutely why they're probably leaving the worms for last
We've all been in those dungeons where you have those pesky mobs that range just free casting and not going down because they're too far away
For a board to cleave. Are we talking about mobs or mages? Pesky mages, free casting in the distance.
Well, you know what I mean.
Cost is not part of the problem.
It's true, it's true.
Although, on this fight, casters are actually kind of chilling.
A lot of argument in the community about whether melee or casting is more difficult.
Casters have kind of a free reign to look around, chill, be at distance, not have to worry
about the adds, have space to see their feet and what they're standing in because
there's very few of them and they have lots of room.
Melee are sweating because once you have that many adds, you have almost...
so difficult to see all of the things you have to see and that's why they're getting
snapped by their swirls. I've got buttons to push. I've got AoE to do. I've got Bs to pad, okay?
I can't be looking at my feet. I've got 30 name plates in my way, a gigantic worm under my feet,
and then teeny tiny little purple swirls that one shot me. That's too much. That's too much.
There are so many swirls as well, so it is really tough. I'm actually a little bit surprised.
One of the things that could get adjusted if this were to be adjusted for future guilds,
It's not right now, is melee being targeted by the little Gohani Parasites because that
can be, we've seen how fast they are chasing after Seoul who is himself very, very fast.
They're blitzing around at a ridiculous speed and if they choose to attack a melee player
and they're out of control for even a second, that melee player gets infested.
No ifs ands or buts, you don't have time to get away.
Yeah, there is so much pressure throughout the entire fight and they also have to
be close, relatively close to dealing damage as well.
So it's not a case of, oh, we'll just stand away.
because they also really really need to die in a fight like this. So it's that delicate balance
of controlling the world and also not getting invested either. Yep absolutely okay so do you
see some discussion happening and some different markers going down and some pings so clearly
the conversation occurring right now about something there isn't a lot of flexibility
there is flexibility as to which quadrant you do first but because of the rate of advancement
of mutagenic pool. There isn't much flexibility in what eggs you do. You have to do them in
particular order or they will get mutated and killed, but we're going into another pool.
Yeah, all right. Dragging the boss just tipi-toe into this area, so just to make sure that it
does devour this canister first. It's really nice to see even that little bit of min-max,
where they drag the boss as far back as it possibly can, just to have as much uptime
on the boss as possible. There you go. The boss is crossing the room to consume the canister,
which is going to start leading out across the room. So we have a lot of healing coming in from
Marison with the halo going in and out and in and out again. We also are going to see a rewind
get popped and see if we can't get through this first wave. Interestingly, you do see the healers
are using a glow for whichever tank is about to explode with that volatile concoction. So they
ensure they get them topped you see that on canyx right now must be topped before this pop and you
see it doesn't do that much damage because he was in fact on 100% the first breaks coming out
the adds getting knocked into range of the aoe grip from the demon hunter it goes off and we are
off to the races unfortunately wall lives health is so low yeah a few of them dropping
really low here just making sure that that worm does not get a cast through as it
where it goes down very very quickly i think he has a double infest it's astonishing he was
kept alive through that he got hit by two and so they're just going to send this this is a quick
quiet two tank went down that was uh incorrectly executed looked like the worms did not get under
control or I'm sorry the parasites quickly did they try breaking a different selection of eggs
at the start there I don't think you know maybe they did they I was wondering or they messed up
something they were they were doing some marking before the poll yeah I was wondering if they
were trying a slightly different combination of eggs so just have a little look in the in the
in the next poll.
Yeah, we have a replay available we can look at.
You're watching, not right now, okay,
no replay available right now.
We'll see if they do it again.
We'll see if they do it again.
We'll look at the exact eggs that they do pop.
Yeah, because while you're right,
they're necessarily...
Those are the same eggs.
Okay.
Those are the eggs they have to do
because otherwise they're gonna get popped
by the goo as it comes out.
They have to do this side's first four
and then that side's first four
or they get mutated.
Now they could do it the other way around.
Yeah, I guess that's what I was wondering if they were switching which way they were doing it.
The interesting thing is which ones have which combinations of mobs, so this one has more spiders,
the far one they do later, is the triple Guhouni pack.
That is scary!
That's the one that they've consistently had left over Guhounis reinfesting from that pack
as they head to the final break of this section.
That one's been a little bit problematic a few times,
so I wouldn't be surprised if they are having some conversations about exactly what to do with these, as you said,
and maybe break some different ones, but other than starting on a different side,
there isn't a lot of flexibility. The eggs are positioned a certain distance from the canister,
and if canister's pool gets to them, they get mutated and you die.
Yeah, I definitely thought when kind of looking at this boss before we went in,
before the raid was released, I was wondering if there would be not only a choice of which
area of the room that you went into, I mean arguably it's always going to be a
route or an easier way to get through it, but let's say you could choose the area of
the room, but also choose the eggs that you're breaking and when, but it does seem
Like there is kind of a default set of eggs that you do need to break just because of the way that they're positioned and the incoming
Is it blood?
Infested stew of some kind, maybe you could also do the closest along in a row
But that would be much more difficult to do because then people would have to go a lot further to get to their eggs to break
And then also they would be much more difficult to group up and kill doing it this way in the
the left hand to and then the right hand to or vice versa allows you to stay
grouped up initially so we're looking at another pull starting right now and I'll
take a look at what they do although the marks are still on the same exit they
have been popping yeah they need to make sure that they are being aware of the
webs as well because they will go out across the raid the healers will need
to dispel them and they need to make sure that they are not near anyone
else so that they don't get rooted as you can see the webs going out the
dispels although very careful if I go here yet everyone kind of dodging around
and then get the safety to spell the interesting thing about the webs is that with this comp they become a significantly smaller problem with so
Few range there's an incredibly high chance that healers are the ones getting the webs and they can just position themselves and
Dispel them quickly without having to look the frames. You don't have but three. Yeah, three range DPS
Total so not a huge deal the webs not not the biggest problem. Although they do put another constraint as the ads are coming out
They I can't see it. I don't think so
Oh, they did miss an egg. Yep, this is a this is a pending wipe. Yeah, so they unfortunately didn't break the tank egg or the
We're going off. No reason to try this. Yeah
Well, they never trying something out
But they definitely have to break the deck right you could try something out in some ways
But that egg has to break
Otherwise, it's gonna explode on the next round. You'd be choosing between two inevitable breaks. Yeah
No, I mean, um, so definitely have to be broken. Yeah in terms of the
Fortunately, they don't have to waste a lot of time on that pull because that egg would have become
mutated and wiped them before they got to a point where they would learn anything new. So,
quick wipe go again. Absolutely. Excellent pull. Shall we have a little break now? No, no breaks.
They had a break all day. Mythic plus, PVP, everything accepted. It's time to go. They were
No breaks, they don't need more gear, I mean arguably canyx could use a little bit more,
he was spending the entirety of heroic week and the first couple days of this reset gearing
up his boonkin and feral and now he's a guardian druid.
So he is only at 614 item level pulling their item level down almost by an entire point
by himself, five people in the raid at 622.
So some extremely good gearing,
except they got surprised by this boss
and are putting in a comp that they weren't ready
to do quite to this level
and do have a couple of low ballers in the group.
Yeah, I mean, this is an amazing showcase of how,
even if you're not necessarily in
for certain previous bosses,
or it really matters that you're still doing
everything you can to gear
because you just never know
when something unique is needed
or you get the call and oh, now you're tagging,
But Kha'Nix, even when he wasn't necessarily in on the earlier bosses, was still grinding out that gear,
was still doing everything he possibly could.
And then now when they bring him in for an unexpected comp, he's ready!
That's true. Unfortunately, we did lose Zero really early on the pull there, I think, to a swirly.
They had to commit the battle res, hopefully he didn't lose too much setup because
we have the first egg breaks coming out here. It looks like we got them all.
Yep.
We grip them all in with that Demon Hunter sigil and start blasting down, unfortunately.
If they are going down again there, they really have to practice holding their AoE just long enough to get everything under control so that they don't aggro the spiders and get clapped like that.
We do have all of the parasites down with no infest, so that's fairly clean, but we don't have a battle rest with them.
They are going to have to do the rest without him, and that is increasingly difficult without the AoE and utility they provide, although all he really has in terms of utility is a single hodge and a single kick.
one of the crucial players making sure that the parasites are under control.
Oh goodness gracious! Yes, but zero goes down during that and Jinji almost did but
not quite so we're also missing the warlock. Still have all of the pieces we
need to control these incoming parasites because this is the triple pack the
hardest to control. Yes they're gonna be having so many parasites here.
Oh, some of these fixates going through. Oh they're not under control at all.
They're getting in fests off left and right perfecto with two, Kush with one,
Revis with one, Jank with one. This is super over. Yeah, this is a very snow-bally fight.
One kick, missed, one CC missed, you know, a vortex or even a knockback to even get them all into
position. Well the thing is is because they aren't using that blood death knight, their grip is
only from the demon hunter. It has a significantly reduced range and because they have so many
packs of parasites from so many different angles, one grouping button doesn't work. You need
knockbacks from multiple angles all at roughly the same time to get them close
enough for that sigil to work so it's a huge coordinated endeavor and one person
being one second off on their cast leaves some of the parasites running
free and infesting people. Was you expecting this boss to provide such
challenge that it kind of is or was you expecting it to kind of fall over?
Well I think I was the only caster who predicted over 20 pull-up of this boss and I predicted 40 I thought it was going to be hard
I didn't even I didn't think it was gonna be this hard, but I did think this was this would be difficult
I remember Alex saying Alex predicting the one shot. I'm around saying why do you think this is gonna be hard?
And I said ads are gonna go out of control
So it is gratifying to see that's true blizzard putting together a really good boss here with a lot of very interesting moving parts that present a
Huge challenge to every dimension of the raid DPS DPS profiles healing healing cooldowns
coordination and
individual gameplay all being tested by this boss? Absolutely interrupts, cc, controlling
of the mobs, just everything is being thrown, you're literally being tested in all ways which
is why I always appreciated for that for example because in phase 2 you had all of the adds,
you had to group them, you had to control them, so it seems like Blizzard in more recent
rate is not just testing your damage or healing but kind of testing the players in all aspects
which is good because maybe that'll teach everyone to interrupt in dungeons.
Yeah, I'd like that. If only you had your dungeons filled with Echo players for Learn It.
We have seen a few missed interrupts, but for those who are learning Echo players,
can't even kick. The vast majority of missed interrupts, and it's only been like four or five,
have been because the Interruptor dies one or two seconds before their interrupt. That's how
this fight can cascade just so quickly. If you get clipped by a Black Puddle, that's a one shot,
and then you say, back up the kick, but it's too late for them to find it, and you all die.
that's happened several times. I would say at least half of the overall wipes have been caused
by individual error like that dying to something and then missing a kick compared to you know wipes
that are caused by a failure of strategy. And in fact another significant portion of third maybe
are because of again individual errors in getting to the correct egg with eight people getting
debuffed and needing to coordinate two per egg for four eggs covered. It is hard to get that
done in time and we've had several wipes caused by failing to break those eggs so we're going into
another pull here the shadow goes up time it goes up and we're gonna start yeah it's also a lot to
remember exactly what's being used where and remembering okay the next exit this is what's
being used um when I was uh waiting for my turn on the couch it was very nice to just listen
to them they weren't they having some laughs but scripe was raid calling everything it was doing
a very, very good job. It was amazing to listen to. Alright, the first canister being consumed
with the egg breaks incoming in five seconds, they will be taking out four of these clusters
of eggs in this first break. Three spiders, two worms, and a set of parasites coming from
this first egg break. So double parasites coming in, those are the focus of the
is they get bumped, knocked, and then gripped.
A few of them outside of the grip and not getting stunned,
the light sweep misses them,
but they do get a cap totem.
Heads up gameplay by our Shaman ensuring that that goes through.
Can they get them killed before they get the infest
off a couple of Fix-Aids, but all taken care of.
There's one left.
Fix-Aid on Reves.
Hopefully he can get away from it before it hits him.
Done, they managed to get that done.
So not super clean, but with some really good gameplay
from the Shaman getting the in-cap totem up,
it prevents it from cascading
as we head into the second round. This is the triple parasites round.
Yeah, this is super scary. They'll have webs into egg breaks, making sure that they are
dodging all of the squirrelys as well. Okay, so the next round of egg breaks, they'll have
three parasite clusters to deal with. This is going to be super scary. This is when
all the DPS gets super excited with all the nameplates on screen, but they will
have to make sure that they're dodging the squirrelys as well. This is super
scary.
It's frightening, but they seem to have them under control. One more parasite in
The back worm cast get him kicked the raid is top everything looking pretty good a fixate on wall life there
They need to get that one to stop
So he doesn't get infested because he doesn't have space to get away
Looking pretty good
We have two spiders and the worm left to cleave down with plenty of time before the next egg break. This is excellent so far
Okay, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. I was gonna repeat you
I just have the movement there was kind of interesting because they moved it to the edge when they want to get here in between
between these eggs to get the next break going.
We have another double parasite and a couple of worms
and one more spider, I believe.
Yeah, that was the cleanest that the previous egg pile
had gone so far, so it was super nice to see.
Just making sure that none of the dispels
are clipping anybody as they break the final eggs
in this area of the room, making sure
that none of them are getting fixated
so they don't spawn more parasites.
We do unfortunately lose Jack here.
He does go down.
They do have no battle res.
doesn't have on so he is going to get picked up they do need to finish off his
worm this worm inevitably gets hit by the goo and mutates adding several
million health to its health pool but they're currently not worrying about
that too much they get a cleave done with the boss now they pull the boss
all the way to the far corner to maximize the distance it has to travel
to get to the next quadrant while being closest to that quadrant so it
doesn't go to the wrong one and then have more time to pummel the boss
without it pummeling them as it heads over to this next canister this
This is going to be another set of massive healing coming in if we can swap to a healer
POV because they need to deal with huge healing absorbs while dodging these puddles themselves.
Yeah, we have the next egg break.
So this is the spider area of the room.
The spiders are now empowered with 50% more HP.
Super scary, right?
The first set of egg breaks going out in this area.
We have three spiders on two worms and several parasites.
to make sure that they all get those power slides in.
Oh, Zeruo going down, unfortunately, and Jacob very, very low.
The Healing Absorb is not quite coming off in time.
Only one group of parasites means that it's not as threatening in that regard,
but they don't have a battle risk for Zeruo.
They just need to get kicks on these worms and then cleave the spiders down
without mirrors dying to their infested mutated poison.
That seems to go relatively well, except for they need to clean up the healing
just a little bit because Zeruo did not get his Healing Absorb off
as they head to the next round of eggs, which has two worms.
and another three spiders and a group of parasites.
Absolutely, they do have around 15 seconds for the next battle race.
They can get zero up as we have the next set of egg breaks,
making sure that they have two people breaking out each set of eggs as we have all these parasites.
I think they got them all, the parasites getting gripped and killed fairly quickly.
No one fests out yet.
couple of worms that need to be kicked, poison burst, and another kick by Soul.
Well done, nobody dead. Clicks a little bit low with a big healing absorb, but
they're able to get that top that halo just blasting so much healing as it goes
back and forth like that. One more worm and a couple more spiders to cleave
down, but this pack is largely under control because with with far fewer
parasites it's easier to do that. They have one more pack of eggs right
coming in just six more seconds. So ideally we get these spiders dead
Before that doesn't look like it'll be a problem. We need to get positioned for the last set of eggs in this quadrant
This is the furthest we have gone with three more big spiders and another set of parasites and worms coming out
This might be their newest best pull as they will have three tank spiders. Oh, thank God final
Clicks is holding on while life goes down. They lose the ae from him push barely clinging on
This is progression moment. They didn't have the healing sorted out
It looks like because they did not have enough to deal with that hit
Yeah, just making sure that they they managed to get all the parasites down. They have three tank spiders that left which will be absolutely annihilating
Merit areas. They are squeezing through this gap making sure they have as much uptime on the boss as possible while taking the webs out and not rooting anybody.
So this is really nice where they squeeze down this little corridor here. So the boss runs the furthest to the final area of the room as everyone's kind of bleeding out.
Now it's partially because of the tank debuffs exploding partially because it's very difficult to dodge all of the puddles in that teeny tiny
Corridor, but this is indeed a new best pull
Let's go and not only in terms of health
But also in terms of mechanics as we have reached the third quadrant of the room with the boss at
45% ideally you'd want her at 33 but this is still an excellent pull about half
they're dead and everyone will be dead very shortly as we are not having any
tanks alive other than nice beams and of course only one thing as well no I think
we can call this one now that was an excellent pull though we learned a lot
we saw a lot further into the fight and we saw another nasty overlap of damage
that really hit hard it's gonna need a little bit of look from Potter in order
to make sure that we have the mitigation and healing necessary to
get through that a difficult tuning from the healing team to make sure
that they can address each healing event as needed with as much as needed, but no more.
So they have something left in the tank for the next one.
Only three healers makes that the difficult task, but they do have more tools at their
disposal than ever before because instead of just having a hymn and a rewind, Halo
is basically a raid cooldown by itself and Golf is basically a raid cooldown by itself.
So they're mapping out each of those casts.
They're going on a 30 minute break now likely for a dinner time.
Yeah, I think that is the dinner break being called here.
So we got our best pull.
We saw the first two egg breaks that were providing a little bit of pushback earlier
on be done so clearly in their pool exactly right those three parasites egg breaks being
super scary, but it was very clean and very coordinated is what you're going to have to
have throughout the entire fight as it is putting pressure the entire time.
And you can see how it kind of calms down even though they are dealing with those
in those mutated parasites through the entire fight because that's what they choose to
the first section has eight groups of those eggs.
The other two sections only have five each.
So it becomes far fewer parasites per break
and it becomes much easier to deal with.
They didn't have any more parasite problems
once they were out of the parasite area.
Similarly with spiders.
This is the most spiders
that we're ever gonna have in that second area
with eight spiders, but only five of those parasites.
And then they're basically done with spiders
far fewer per egg break.
So really interesting to see how they deal with that
throughout the course of this.
We are also going to go on break, grab some quick dinner
so that we are refreshed and ready to go
when we come back to continue casting.
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We've been slamming into boss number five with a very interesting comp.
But if I'm not mistaken, I think some comp changes might be on the horizon.
Yeah, we are seeing some comp changes with Jank out on the Shaman
and potentially wolf in on his warrior,
getting that third warrior into the raid.
And they are blasting, so that's quite a surprise.
Not hugely surprising, as you pointed out before the break,
the shamans, the hand shamans,
are doing a lot of boss damage,
very competitive boss damage,
but the biggest challenge of this fight, thus far at least,
is clearing up all the adds.
Nobody doing that quite like the Fury Warriors
with that AoE Bladestorm.
Really? I'll spin into it.
Yeah, spin to win as long as you're gonna stand in something while you're trying to win.
Medics is a pricking up somewhere in the venue.
We currently have one shaman out and it also looks like, unless I'm mistaken,
we're down to three instead of four.
Oh.
That's nice right now.
Yeah, you're correct. We also have another vengeance.
Steemenhams are in the raid.
Yes. Is that Andy instead of Ken?
Yes, the canyx is special DPS.
So none of this is final right now.
Obviously we're just speculating,
they're currently adjusting the raid.
We were talking about before they were pulling
that we didn't think this was gonna be the comp
they killed the boss with, as this is a,
the biggest part of this boss,
the biggest challenge of this boss
is definitely DPS allocation, cooldown management,
DPS profiles, something they've started to tinker with.
Yes, so that's why I was really anticipating this fight.
I know that it could kind of seem
little bit underwhelming like I won't be that much of a challenge but I was like no
depending on tuning if you really need to get that boss damage in and if the ads
also have a lot of HP and need resources allocated to it this could be a
really interesting fight the ads are throughout they're extremely dangerous
there's priority target with the spiders there's AOE with the parasites
there's also the worms that are usually out of position because they're
casting they can't move there are so many different damage profiles
required for this fight as well as the insane amount of control going out with the pushes,
the AoE sweeps just to make sure nobody gets fixated or they don't infest in the players
as well, reducing more parasites. There is so much going on. And then the boss also needs
to die. You can't take too many resources off of the... Well it seems we're joined
by... We're joined by Xalatath. I was wearing her makeup earlier but I started spewing
some of this. Well, I'm like half a Zalateth now. I don't want her purple
infecting me. So yeah, this is as you were saying a very complicated fight. I
think Zalateth agrees with a bunch of checks happening at the same time. You
have the boss DPS check, which is difficult and they are not on track to
make it. You have the DPS check on individual teeny-tiny little lads. The
the infest parasites need to die very very fast. The spiders need to die through cleave
fast enough that they don't kill mares once they become mutated. And it's a coordination
check all at the same time with a huge amount of stops, interrupts and CCs required. We
are seeing some comp adjustments. I think Mini is out. He's not in the raid group
anymore and he is sitting all by his lonesome in a tower somewhere in Dornegol. Yes, there's
Mini POV. It looks like he's being subbed out interestingly for the additional Vengeance
Hunter like you called out which I'm not actually that surprised to see because
vengeance demon hunter was doing DPS levels of damage in the fight just
absolutely blasting beating several of the other DPS so huge amounts of damage
coming in from their flame sigils Andy making the cameo in this fight even
though he had stepped down from this tier for a little bit of a break he's
been helping out a lot during splits raid leading I'm helping the off tank
make sure that they're still able to get everything done so perhaps seeing
that come in possibly some more tinkering with the raid comp a little bit surprising to see a
death knight dropped in order to make room for the dps spirit yeah because the frosty k's are
absolutely annihilating this fight there ever was a fight dedicated to gks let's say frosty k's and
their damage output it would be this one it heavily favors them so this is a little bit surprising
but the benjamin steven hunter the additional tank is as you say and they're doing so much
damage, but it allows it takes pressure off the tanks having the third tank it allows the spiders to live maybe a little bit longer
Which means you can allocate less resources more into the boss
Let's say but then with the vengeance demon hunter damage. You're not necessarily losing too much
Yes by having that third tank in as well. So that is quite a change. We have potentially we'll keep an eye on it
We will panic sin on either boomie or feral
Well, you're sure yeah, you're guaranteed going to have a druid in right market wild
It's too good not to bring seems like he's playing balance for it right now
We expect balance and we'll have to see how that goes
I will venture a prediction that I doubt you'll disagree with this also whatever comp they actually do go with which if they slide
Wolf this go into the raid frames that looks like what this will be is triple warrior triple demon death knight
double demon hunter tank and then everything the same as it was before minus a shaman and minus a bear essentially
If they slide wolf this go into the frames and that's the comp we're going with then I will venture to say
This is still not the comp that will kill the boss because this is a boss all about cooking up the exact correct comp that does exactly the
Right amount of add damage at the right times and then everything else going into the boss and as they progress the fight
They've already gotten significantly better at the first quadrant
They're getting better at the second quadrant, which is a progression quadrant
They've gotten to the third quadrant badly
You know shakily a couple of times as they progress the fight and get better and better at those
They'll be able to start shifting more and more their damage to boss damage
we might start seeing more changes. For example, like you talked about earlier, the Rep Paladin in there
kind of right now, doing AoE damage and not much else. That could potentially be a candidate to
bring in someone that does a little bit less AoE damage, but some boss damage on top of it.
Yeah, because some specs don't necessarily lose any of their single target damage by dealing AoE,
or don't necessarily lose any AoE by dealing single target damage. The Frost DKB and a really
good example of that. But with the Rep Paladin, with specs like Rep Paladin, you're either
doing a we or you're either doing single target you're essentially choosing how
you're spending your resources a bunch of pressing so it's kind of an either or
with the rep paladin and you don't want to be in a position where you are
over killing the mobs if so many people are popping cooldowns and the ads are
dead that's damage that's then wasted that could have been going into the
boss they want to avoid that situation as well so you will I'm going to keep
an eye on where they're popping cooldowns which we can of course keep
travel to see which specs are bringing in. Couldn't agree more. We do see a summons
going out on Wolf Dispill and he is now in the main raid frame so it looks like
with everyone present except him and he's got a summons pending while he
finishes up his gear. There he is. He's in the raid now as well so this looks
like our final comp for now. Minus one enhanced summon, minus one frost death
knight in order to gain an additional arms warrior and an additional
Vengeance Demon Hunter with the Guardian Druid swapping over to DPS Druid.
That's kind of an indifferent change. This overall, we'll have to see how this
shakes out. The loss of the Death Knight, a large loss, but the addition of a Demon
Hunter, a large gain, and the addition of a Fury Warrior, another large gain.
So how this will shake out, we'll have to wait and see. This fight has
such delicate balancing of your AoE and Cleave targeting on ads that this
could shake up even their first phase if we consider each segment of the
room of phase. We might see wipes now here because we have lost, for example, the Death
Knight cooldowns on a pack.
Yeah, I think a large part of progression is that consistency, right? If you're going in
a certain direction or you're using a certain button at this point, you want that to be
very consistent. You're able to adjust if needed. So yeah, with the slight adjustments,
it could just be, okay, everyone needs to get used to it, one used to when they're
pressing things because there is constant things happening, right? Constant egg rates
It can be very easy to lose track of the fight, not for Echo, they know exactly what's
going on, they know exactly when they're popping their cooldowns, but I know sometimes when
we're in raids they try to remember which part of the fight you're in, there's just
so many eggs at the circle, I'm like, I'm not using my Typhoon here, but yeah, it can
be a little bit of that as well, I can all thought blend in, so they want to make
sure that they are getting used to the fight, even knowing when they're pressing
the cooldowns and when, and getting very comfortable.
Did we have a DPS evoker or has Tygo come in?
Tygo, Tygo has been playing on agmentation the entire time.
Interesting to have one augmentation because typically one aug is good, two is better, but
so far they've been sticking with the one aug.
That's working out.
They are using the evokers as part of their CC chains.
In order to correctly CC the enormous number of parasites happening in this parasite quadrant,
they're using augmentation knockbacks from every direction along with oppressive roars
in order to increase the duration of leg sweep and other stuns on the parasites.
So really making full use of that.
as you said it's important to note right it's easy to talk about the mythic
changes on a boss and only talk about substantive you know changes in the
dungeon journal for example meeting two people to break up each egg or empowering
and mutating addster at the course of the rest of the fight we've talked about
that what isn't in the dungeon journal but is nevertheless the case is that
often mechanics will be amplified on mythic in a way that isn't described
and or even known until you get there and that is the case here as
there are a lot more eggs on mythic than there are on heroic in each section you have eight
of the primary out of that section plus five each of the others so in this first section they're in
with the parasites they have eight parasite packs with five big spiders and five worms so this is
a frantic a we fest in this first phase and then after that all parasites in the rest of the
room are still empowered as they head over into the spider area which then empowers the
of spiders and they're dealing with eight empowered spiders and five empowered packs
of parasites and five unempowered worms that that's entering the last phase of course they'll be
dealing with eight mutated worms with five mutated spiders and five mutated parasites
but what it does do is it looks like the second quadrant is an easier task to keep the parasites
under control because as opposed to this quadrant where you have two packs of parasites three
packs of parasites and then two packs of parasites. In the second quadrant, you're typically only
dealing with one in one area and then two in a couple of areas. So it's much, much smaller
amounts of parasites to deal with even though they are empowered through the rest of the room.
Yeah, and with Canex as well, they gain access to Solar Beam. So that will keep the worms
controlled a little bit more because we have seen sometimes with how much is going on or
losing somebody who was supposed to interrupt a second before the interrupt was supposed to
to go off. That's going to ease that off a little bit with those ones that are placed
a little bit far away because that's the only annoying thing about the ones is that they
do need to be consistently interrupted and they can't be moved either. So they're a little
bit out of the way and have to have a consistent interrupt rotation on them. So Canex will be
providing the solar beam meaning that that will be a lot less pressure from the worms
as well. Sorry for the break there. TV tried to turn off all those. You're absolutely
right? And that's such a good point. All of the adds in this fight group up really fast. The parasites
charge at you immediately, dangerously fast. In fact, you're trying to slow them down.
The spiders come in really fast, and the tanks have to pick up some snap aggro as quickly as
possible, because otherwise they have to mail in people as well. The worms just stand still,
which in this fight can be particularly difficult to deal with, because if they're not within
the group, they're not eating up the huge amount of cleave that this entire composition is
based upon and built around, which makes them very threatening.
Because if you don't have enough kicks from range,
then they'll have to jump over and try to kick them
and they lose up time on the boss.
They lose up time on all the other packs.
So that's a really good point.
And it's part of why I think none of the guilds
are really trying to deal with the worms
until the very end of the fight,
because they just don't want to have to deal
with mutated worms from the entire fight onward,
even though they have less health,
because they're so spread out and so difficult to deal with.
Yeah, was it the egg breaking mechanic that was a private aura that they then changed and is no longer a private aura?
Yeah, that was, I knew there was quite a good change on this fight. Very good change.
How come there's a great change?
Yeah, I mean, it is a lot of fresher on the players to reach the egg, I think in six seconds and coordinate it so that everybody is at a different egg and every single egg needed to be broken as well.
Can I say eggs anymore?
The word eggs is starting to lose all meaning. What does eggs mean? Eggs, eggs, eggs, eggs, eggs, eggs, eggs.
There are all certain many. But...
Starting to sound like something else now.
Here you get a sneak peek of Echo's internal assignment add-on.
We don't normally get to see that as he sends out the assignments for CCs and cooldowns on these eggs.
Interesting to see.
Here is often acting as that assistant raid leader in the raid for Scrypt through the
south side of the raid, guiding them he's doing some supplemental calls and all of the
marking as they need.
Because this fight does have some hot swap marks going out all the time in order to ensure
that they are breaking the correct eggs.
If you miss an egg break on this fight, you're guaranteed to wait.
Because that means you don't have enough egg breaks, the eggs will get broken instead
by that black blood bile mutagenic goo, whatever we want to call it.
and instant guaranteed wipe. There's no recovery. Yeah, so for anybody who may be tuning in, there
are a few changes from her or from the fight. Each section of the room is primarily one of
the ads. So you'll have more spiders in one section, more parasites than the other, and
more worms in another area of the room. And on mythic, depending on which canister
is broken, those ads will be forever empowered throughout the rest of the fights. And
You will also require two people to break each egg cluster.
Yep, absolutely true.
On top of that, the black blood mutating an egg for you does a catastrophically large
amount of damage, irrecoverable amount of damage, and because these adds are guaranteed
to be mutated throughout the course of the fight, you're dealing with mutations that
cause problems you didn't really see in heroic.
Parasites running very, very fast and infesting you, and causing two parasites to pop
out when you get infested.
not only does the parasite cause a lot of damage to you and hurt,
it also proliferates throughout the room and in a very dangerous way,
because two parasites coming out significantly after you send all of your
damage cooldowns and all of your CC cooldowns into the pack means that
they're hard to deal with. Typically, if someone gets infested,
those parasites are here to stay until the next round of CC and damage.
We've seen them lingering that long several different times.
Yeah, that is such a great point because they are sending their CC at
certain points, right? It's all coordinated.
they have this whole fight mapped out to the T so they do gain those additional
parasites that's DPS allocation swapping off of the boss so that's you know a
little bit of resources from the boss and also they may not have too much CC to
deal with them as well. We've seen that several times. I can absolutely escalate
very quickly as we do have a pull timer going up. Time to pull, break over,
nice dinner break. Time for a poll. We're going to be pulling the boss to the very edge of...
Oh no, Delph!
Back into the mythic glass. To the very edge of this section. As far away as we can from the canister
to maximize the time she spends traveling instead of blasting the raid without risking her going
to a different quadrant. These webs are another mechanic that I have to deal with,
but it's fairly trivially done. What we're looking out for here is the huge amount of
healing necessary to get through the waves of healing absorbs being placed on the boss
right before we head into the next first set of egg breaks.
So we're gonna break four eggs right around these markers
on this side of the room
and then go to the front legs on the other side of the room.
We have two packs of parasites in this group
that need to get broken and then grouped up and killed.
Absolutely, it does seem like all four egg clusters
are broken so have the two packs of the parasites
making sure that you can see the solar beam
coming in from cannex there,
making sure that the worm does not recast
and controlling it, absolutely making sure
None of them are getting to the end.
Oh, it goes back up good.
Okay, no.
Oh, okay.
Okay, we've given up on this pull.
There's an unbroken egg.
Oh, there was an unbroken egg.
You know, I did see that one and thought,
I wonder if they missed an egg,
but I couldn't quite see from that angle
if that was supposed to be part
of that egg break there.
Chris needs to spare face in the bottom left.
Yeah, so on this fight, like we were talking about,
if you missed one of those eggs in the front,
going to inevitably die. Now later in the fight if you miss an egg, where you're to a point where
you can still practice something new and interesting, potentially learn something new, then it might be
worth continuing even though you're going to suffer an inevitable doom in, you know, one minute or so.
Right here though, that egg is going to pop by the time they reach the third set of eggs in this
quadrant, which means they're not going to see anything new, they're not going to learn anything
new, and they're simply wasting time. Miss an egg, jump off. And this is demonstrating why it was
such a great change that it's not a private order anymore. They actually have a fairly NASA level
week or going on here, not only putting down marks and assigning people to go to that mark with
little say squares over their head. They're also using a radar week or not actual radar, but a
radar mapping out where the eggs are and highlighting which one they're supposed to go to.
And even with that, about one out of five poles get scuffed because of a missed egg.
Yeah, you can't afford to miss any eggs. As you're saying, you can afford maybe later
run in the fight. If it means you can see more practice another egg cluster for example
if there's anything else you can learn or see in the fight it might be worth leaving it
but it will be in an ever so white because once the goo that is encroaching across the
room reaches the egg it will further mutate it and create a pretty dangerous add post
and damage across the entire raid as well. So they cannot miss any of these eggs and
they only have enough breaks to break every single one. So once they miss one it's
forever miss yep absolutely true and on normal and heroic you could heal through
the debuff that puts on the raid but on mythic you just can't not with three
healers not with the DPS requirements in this fight so that is a GG we are
heading now into the next poll after the end break they are food buffed up let's
hope that it's not making a little so far jig as we head into this poll the
boss heading to the canister sending out waves of healing absorbs that need
to be addressed by our three healers first set pretty well done much like
the DPS want to send just enough damage to kill the adds, but no more putting it all into
the boss.
The Healers want to send just enough cooldowns to heal this, but no more, saving some for
later.
We've had some pulls end in disaster because they didn't have cooldowns left anymore, requiring
Potter to work on that.
But we're heading into the first set of egg breaks.
Hopefully everyone can get coordinated.
You see that week we're up there assigning which egg they go to.
All eggs, pop?
Question mark?
Yes.
And the parasites grip all together and start getting blasted down.
We do have some very low health on Genji Pumper.
He gets picked back up.
Yeah, those webs that are going out that require a dispel
can really disrupt them, especially if it goes on a melee,
because not only are they dodging all the circles,
they're also dodging the entire raid
who needs to get out of it before it's dispelled,
while also maintaining up time on the ads
as we now have one of arguably the most difficult breaks.
This is the three parasite egg break.
We have the webs going out into breaking the eggs in three seconds.
So they need to make sure not only they are covering every single egg,
but they have to deal with the three packs of parasites.
They'll be putting out so much CC will probably have the knock ins.
There you go. You can see them all grouped up, gripped and they are
weighing it all down while not getting infested, not those fixed aches,
not reaching the person that is targeting as they don't spawn anymore
while keeping the worms interrupted as well.
Dodging all the swirlies as the parasites go down. Yeah, the parasites started to go down
But we have two in fests going out and those parasites are now running free for respond from those in fest
They're running free. We have Frago's health at a
Scouche
Okay, and he goes down. We also lose Jinji the parasites running around look at them blazing after soul catching up very fast
This is all over unfortunately way too many people dying and it snowballs very very quickly
Yeah, so this is what we're talking a little bit about earlier, where if somebody does get
invested, which is the target that they're fixating, they breach their target and they
kind of go inside and then spawn two new ones, that's where you've already used all the
resources. Everything is allocated throughout this fight. There's not really going to
be much left over, especially for the three parasite break. They're going to have so
much to see dedicated to that. So if they do have additional ones, they're going
be running dry they're also going to have to take damage off of the boss. Everybody's already
popped their cooldowns they're going to go down much slower. They're going to be chasing
people away from the boss so it just gets so out of control so they have to make sure they
do really go down in that first break and not reach their targets. And this is part
of what we were talking about. That particular parasite set was one that I think many school
downs had been assigned to. We have a new couple of DPS coming in or a couple new
players coming in that hadn't played before. They hadn't played the boss before. Well if
and plan the boss for Armors Warrior and of course our boom can have significantly different damage profiles than the previous Frost Death Knight plus Enhanced Shaman.
So with a fight as delicately balanced as this one in terms of damage profiles, it's not surprised to see that they're going to have to rework how they handle some of those packs.
But now we've had one error on the first set of eggs in this quadrant and one error on the second set of eggs in this quadrant.
eggs in this quadrant. So perhaps we can continue to slowly
progress through back to our progress point and get to the
third set of eggs in this quadrant on this pole as
marks go down and the pole timer goes up and we're heading
into pole number three after dinner. Yeah, positioning the
boss right on the end edge of this. Are we going to go this
section of the room?
It doesn't make sense because that's right. Quad, right?
But yeah, it's good enough for who it's for, I think.
I don't think that works either. As the bosses are running over to the canister, feasting
on it, putting out the Swirlies that they have to make sure that they are dodging.
Yeah.
So the, uh, isn't there a damage out as well? Because this is bolstering damage. What damage
out throughout the raid? It's not like the Healers have anything to do with this.
Scary healing absorber that's going out.
Just heal. We're doing the important work, D-Pissing the boss. Just push that heal
please.
can see the first egg breaks coming out now have two players breaking each egg cluster.
We're missing one over here. Okay, we're good. Oh, that's cool. Unfortunately, we did not
break out the parasite. That was so close. Very close. You can see that not only do you
require two people to break each of the egg clusters, but it's also really fiddly. You
have to think about where you're standing as well. Each of them, each of the people
that need to break the egg in that little cluster of eggs has to overlap both eggs
at the same time, and they were just missing one of them. Both of them were in the right spot,
both of them were overlapping, but they didn't both overlap on that last. It is a skill issue!
It is a skill issue! And you would like to see this sort of wipe stop relatively soon, because
this is a, you know, fundamental part of the fight that has to be executed correctly over and over
and over again throughout the entire course of the fight, and you have a weak ore going,
you should be able to get it sorted out. You can't keep losing one out of five pulls
to issue that fundamental so hopefully with a little bit more reps and a little bit more practice
we'll start seeing that be done consistently that's two out of the three in fact two out of the three
posts in our wipes are caused by just not going where you're supposed to with your egg breaking
yeah and it could just be a little bit feeling out the fight they have brought in some new players
who also have to get a feel and once you break the egg then you kind of get that muscle memory
right so you kind of get a feel for it you know where you're going but that's going to take
few pools to just get used to because we have had some slight comp changes, a few people getting used to it.
I think this really showcases, so we have had an entire week of Heroic where we had some Heroic
splits, we've had them farming some gear for the last two days as well, we had more splits,
Pombri set, and some Mythic Plus, and it really does pay off. We've been talking about this
pretty much for a week. The Echo never wants to be in the position where they need something
and they don't have it. Do we need the three warriors? Do we need the four decaves? They're
ready to bring it in because you just never know. This is such a perfect fight of who could have
predicted this really. Yeah. This is very intense and this is a very unusual comp as well and that's
where their preparation really really shines. We have that third warrior to bring in. Yeah,
absolutely true and it's good that they did. I don't think anyone foresaw four death knights
but they were ready to make something work. Every single other aspect of this fight,
They had anticipated we're ready. They had three warriors ready from day one of heroic split. So that's absolutely correct
I wouldn't be surprised if we're continuing to have a little bit of discussion every time about making sure that everyone understands exactly
how their week where it works understands exactly how
breaking the eggs works and
No one has any confusion because Roger's gonna be tired of seeing that kind of wife relatively soon
It's gonna start getting red carded as it said in the group as we head into another pull
This is pull number four after the break for those who don't know what's going on
We spent the first half of the day seeing heroic splits gearing characters up for this real
Wall of a boss in the middle of the raid and now they've been working on this for a few hours now
We have seen a pole get down to 43% but coming out of the dinner break
We had some comp changes
So we're looking to get back to our progress point as we head into this first wave of damage from the canisters
Yeah, absolutely. We'll have these burst egg breaks coming in provided a little bit of
of uh, not necessarily a challenge, but everyone's still finding their feet again
So have the first egg break. Let's see if they can catch all of them requiring two players
Her egg
Fluster, all right, let's see if they managed to break every one out. Yes. It seems like they have all they made
Oh, they missed one right at the back
Off we go again. That's three out of four on the first pass. It's missing the eggs. Yeah, that is unfortunate
That's the reverse
So if you're curious about what's going on there and what's exactly going wrong, they
have to break four groups of eggs.
They have to break four, you know, little clusters of eggs.
Eight people get a debuff.
That's that purple circle around them.
And it requires two of those people to overlap their circles, kind of then diagramming them
on the eggs in their clump.
Now that could have one egg sometimes or it could have two sets of eggs in your
clump, both of which have to get hit.
That particular clump was actually only one egg.
a group of parasite eggs that only counts as one, so it just needed two people to overlap
that one. There are other eggs where there's both a large spider and a worm, or both a
large worm and some parasites, for example, at orange, so varying depending on where you
go. But two people have to overlap in order to pop it, and if both people don't actually
overlap the eggs with their circle, it gets missed. Now we have a couple new people
in the raid that haven't been doing this job before, and they may just be learning
exactly how fiddly it is as we shake out some post-dinner mistakes.
Yeah, I wonder if it is also the weak aura as well, bringing new people in will have to
require some setup on their end to make sure that everybody's kind of put into it correctly,
everyone's running it as well. I can relate to that. I've been in my own raid when we've
gone through certain bosses and they won't have different weak auras but I can imagine
that people may remember it from what was the penultimate boss in Avarus. We'd have people
different week horrors. Yeah, they're in a real pain. But they can be really tricky, okay?
It's a very convoluted week horrors to make sure that it's very delicately set right. And
because they have had different people come in, that could be providing maybe a little
bit of issues, because it does seem like people are struggling to find where they're
going. So that could be also what it is.
That's why they have this week horrors, right? So you have four sets of eggs that
You need to get broken by eight people and you have six seconds to get where you're supposed to go
Obviously, you can't do that YOLO off the cuff in the moment
So everyone's gonna be using the weak or to sign this
The simplest version of this week or is to simply have two people say circle over their head
And then they know they're supposed to go to the circle
But even that's one layer too complicated for Roger because then you have to look at this floor
Look at one of four marks find circle
Which can be difficult to do if it's included by a bunch of health bars and other players and purple circles on the ground
So they've added this kind of quasi radar that pops up above their head when they have a circle
But I'm not only says you have circle and you're going to circle but marks where it is relative to looking at the canister
Looking at the canister. You're going to the top left
Ideally that's helping them locate exactly where they're supposed to go
But folks remember this is very difficult to do you have six seconds to do it while also dealing with getting dispelled from your web and
Dodging the purple circles and continuing to maintain your DPS
So it is hard and while we are harping on them,
in order to kill this boss,
they're going to need to get consistent
at doing that effectively over and over and over again
for the next 40 to 50 pulls.
However, we don't want to understand,
understate that it is difficult.
Absolutely.
And then we have these second egg cluster breaks
where you have the three sets of parasites
that they'll have to deal with as well.
So there's just no respite really,
especially in this first area of the room.
I think this first area,
I think it's three here,
three on the next one, and then two on the last one,
because that's eight, right?
So each area has eight of its specialized eggs,
so this parasite area has eight parasite eggs,
three in the first grouping, three in the second grouping,
and then two just in the third.
And that's why they were using
two death knights popping on the first set,
two death knights popping on the second set,
and then you had an easier time with that third set.
Now we're missing one of those death knights,
and that's also potentially what led to the issue
on that pull where they were on the second set.
Yeah, absolutely.
Again, we're changing damage profiles,
which can be very significant on a fight like this.
Taking damage allocation away from those odds
is gonna be very significant.
All right, we're going into the...
We were going into a pull, but I think it got canceled.
That's like a pull-time a curse?
I don't know what that was.
I'm not sitting on the floor.
Nope, nope, that wasn't a pull.
Oh, unfortunately, Wolf has had a little bit of a DC.
Oh, it could be.
So this is quite what I was wondering
where they're bringing different players in.
So it could have been that Wolfs,
Let's say Ikora was not quite working,
which is what was providing the issues with the egg breaks
and he could be reloading because there was an issue.
So I imagine that's what's happening.
I think you're likely exactly correct.
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For sure.
Absolutely.
Alright, the next poll, hopefully this may sort out any issues they were having with
the egg breaking allocations.
We have some amazing graphics on the side of the screen here.
You can see the bloodlust, the battle res is remaining, deaths, and you can also see
the boss HP and energy bar because when the boss's energy bar gets to 100% it will charge
towards the closest container as we are in the first area of the room.
The first egg breaks making sure that they're dodging all of these swirlies going out across
the raid.
Alright, let's see.
I think you got to lay in hands there, maybe that was a huge heal just in time.
You have to get the last of these healing absorbs off which they have except for
Mechanics is who is also dealing with an egg break. He gets a big heel just in time the egg breaks are going out
And they're handled correctly
We get the bumps and knocks into the depth the demon hunter grip all of the parasites being mowed down
Oh, unfortunately while it gets clipped by one of the Swirlies which is one shot
He does get battle res however parasites done all we need to finish off these worms and that last spider and we
Can head over to area number two. All right
you can see here. It's a
second egg break, but first they
have to deal with the swirly is
going out and then the webs
which we're going out on
various players needs to be
dispelled. When it's dispelled,
you can't have anybody within
your circles. You can see here
with Frago. It does really slow
you as well, which can be a
terrible overlap with
everything else that's going on
three packs of parasites just look at them all getting gripped in they're
making sure that they are not letting that fixate reach the target and then
infest them as they are absolutely annihilating all of these parasites
making sure that they are interrupting the worm all right getting out with
these webs too one more parasite to kill we got it down
excellently done zero in fests and we're finishing off one last set of
of worms and that last spider. That was very cleanly done. We actually saw Mera's free
Frago from his root there with an incredibly timed Tiger's Lest. That was really, really
nice as we head into the last set of eggs in this area, which has two spiders, a worm
and two sets of parasites. So we need to get all of these egg breaks as well. That one
egg is very, very close to the goo. That is a worm that almost always they allow
to get mutated. Here come the, oh my goodness, canyx going down. Frago very low. Cush
Very low as they do get all of these ads grouped up and are being a weed, but everyone's health is
Extraordinarily low right now. We have a spider and a worm and an infest on rev is ticking down in ZSL dropping
That's that infest new parasites coming from that they're now need to be controlled and killed as they just ran out of all their CC and damage
Absolutely
Yeah
So this is a very good example of how quickly this fight can snowball with those
There's webs going out that need to be dispelled, also slowing the player by an incredible amount
and making sure that they are not within anyone else so they can successfully remove it because
it deals a large amount of damage onto the player while it holds.
So you can't leave it on for too long and it was a case of trying to get away from
their raid members, not route them and also getting it off very quickly.
So yeah, there's a little bit of a struggle there.
is and it's a difficult mechanic because more of those debuffs go out than they have healers
and dispels they're having to do where we haven't been talking about this and been underselling it
a little bit but they do have to do some interesting things to make sure that those go off. It looks
like what they're doing is three individual dispels from healers typically on themselves if possible
because they have a fairly high likelihood of getting these debuffs but then Mira's is assigned
to Tiger's Lust one who actually gets rooted. That person is struggling because that web
Before the route slows them so much and several of them overlap with the black swirly
So it's difficult to get out of the swirly as well slowed before you finally get rooted and insta tigers lust by mirrors
We saw Fraggo do it very well earlier
But there we saw a couple people get clipped and then things spiral so quickly you're missing one stop on the goonies
They invest someone they invests go off you have extra ads you miss one kick on a worm
Those are deadly because missing a kick on a worm causes a huge burst of raid-wide damage
that essentially ensures a wipe unless you actually are already rolling cooldowns
and we're intended for something else. So it snowballs very very quickly. However,
progress with this new comp we have now reached the third set of eggs in this
area trying to get back to our previous progression point which was having
successfully cleared the second area. Yeah it does seem like they were having
a slight issues with the allocation of the egg breaks which it seems
fairly fixed now as they broke open those eggs very cleanly last pull so all
three sets got done, that looks good to see. It's just that last set of ads need to be cleaned up I guess.
Yeah and it can spiral, they're all different ways.
You're right, Glancing at some of those deaths. So far it has been the case that
the vast majority of deaths have been individual areas or errors I am sorry.
It is absolutely the case that those Swirlies look easy to dodge, but they're not.
They are difficult to dodge in melee when so many health bars are out, so many nameplates from the adds,
you're trying to CC the adds, kill them, and you just get clipped by one and killed,
or you're slowed by a web and you get clipped by one and killed, and then it still works very quickly.
But that's going to be a matter of practice and consistency through practice as we head into another pool.
Yeah, because you're not only just looking to dodge the Swirlies and make sure you're not surrounded by anybody
so that you can get dispelled by the webs,
But you also, if it goes on somebody who's CC is required or interrupt is required or
your cooldowns are being popped here, there are also things that are really important that
you can't miss either.
If any of those damage cooldowns are taken off, for example, the 3 Parasite pack, that's
going to be extremely significant.
If you're missing a CC, that's also going to be extremely significant and you cannot
let one of the interrupts go off as well.
So it's not just a case of, hey, we're just going to dodge Twirlies right now because
they're also dodging Twirlies as well as breaking their eggs and getting to their correct
egg as we have the first egg breaks seems like all of them were broken out successfully
we're gonna make sure that the worms are interrupted the oh fraggo goes down oh and robin is solo
he gets picked up clicks is very low but everyone gets picked up and they do have the battle
reds for fraggo once they get this under control they're going to send that uh but uh other
than him dying that was a relatively clean oh never mind we're going off now oh maybe
Oh, that's an egg that wasn't broken.
That is an unbroken sort of parasite egg.
Okay, I didn't quite see that. I mean, it's hard for us to see it.
It is hard to see, and they're very, very little, right?
Look how small they are next to the larger eggs, so...
And you know it's funny because I wonder...
I think there was a poll where somebody looked very safe with the web dispel.
But Zerwe was standing the other side of one of the larger eggs,
and from the POV, I actually didn't see Zerwe.
Yeah, and I think he died
Maybe you're taking damage from the web when it was dispelled or I didn't really see what happened
I was thinking oh wait, oh, it was standing on the side. So I wonder how much that's coming. I do I agree
I also wonder how many of them are playing dwarf because since you're three healing this fight
Which has four dispellable debuffs go off
You have some fairly difficult shenanigans going out to make sure they get dispelled in time
I'm minimizing the damage you take while not you know
Hitting other people with the roots and a couple of dwarves would make that a little easier if they could insta stone
form some of those debuffs off. Zeruo feeling very confident going into the fight with 4% HP.
That's a healer problem, not his. They'll take care of it. Pull going down, Zeruo is back to full
health. Everything is fine as the boss heads into this first section. One thing we haven't
been talking about because it's largely a solved issue is this tank explosion week where the
boss attacks the target tanking him. Either Andy or Nice memes puts a debuff on them,
called the volatile concoction. That volatile concoction ticks on them very hard doing significant
amounts of damage and at the end of six seconds explodes for an amount of damage proportional to
the health they are missing. So if they are topped in a full health, the rate takes very little
damage around 1.5 million per person in the rate, we say very little, but it's still a big chunk.
And if the tank is at half health, they all die. So this is actually another complexity in the
background going on that they need to take care of. We're heading into the first egg break,
we're looking to see if all of them are broken. You can see how difficult it is for
us to tell even and we're not even in the fight with all of these main plates but it does look like
we got them all the parasites grouped up and slaughtered a couple of spiders remaining no
infest throughout this looks very clean yeah you could see Jinji panning his camera down just a
little bit with all of those name plates on screen just so they could clearly see where the worms
are because he does have an interrupt on one of those all right parasites need to be cleaned
up they get them cleaned up as we head into break number two this is a triple parasite group with
two worms and two big spiders those worms will get kicked but the big focus is going to be on
bumping these parasites into the middle and then chain stunning them with leg sweep and chaos
nova from our demon hunters everyone tells very low you always need to start pumping as we start
blasting very spooky we have the three sets of parasites they need to make sure that they
are absolutely being blasted with the cooldowns that are assigned here while not reaching their
fixed 8 target as they get absolutely annihilated. That was huge damage. Very clean so they have
to make sure that they are finishing up. And the needs of the spell. Okay there we go. That took a
little while but. We have one worm and two spiders and they are also very low as they're
moving into the third egg set. The final egg set of this area of the room. Yep this egg set
that has a worm right next to the goo
that will inevitably get mutated and increase its health.
But that's not a huge deal.
They're first gonna deal with these parasites coming out.
Two groups of parasites.
So this is the easiest one to control and kill
with an additional couple of worms and a couple of spiders.
Those parasites get grouped up.
There goes the Chaos Nova with the oppressive roar
in order to increase its duration.
They stop these fixates so they don't go off.
However, we did have one go off.
We have an infest on walleye that's gonna spawn
a couple more parasites to deal with.
That worm is now mutated in the goo.
They pull the boss as close as they can
to facilitate cleave from their melee
who can't really walk into that,
but it does go down.
That's taking care of fixate on click shum
and they need to stop these fixates in time.
All right, section one, fairly cleanly done.
We're heading over to the edge of the room
to maximize the distance the boss will run
into section two, the spider area.
Absolutely, if you can see on the right side
of the screen and also on the brood twist HP bar
it reaches a hundred energy we charge in across the nearest canister as we are now going into
the spider area. You'll have more tank spiders and they will now be empowered. Once the adds
are empowered they gain 50% health throughout the rest of the fight so there's a very spooky
we have the first set of egg breaks in this area coming out.
is low and it goes down. We did lose a tank there and I think it had a very large explosion from the concoction
but he gets battle as Clicks unfortunately going down next as we grip all the parasites and adds over into the middle
Chaos Nova going out leg sweep going out Clicks on so we still are all technically alive. You use that shaman personal
We do have a couple of spiders that are
Mutated biting at mirrors what we have happening is that Andy and nice means are trading off from the boss handling that
volatile concoction and then mirrors tanks the spiders which decreases healing
taken and that's why he can't tank the boss if he does he can't get top and the
volatile concoction will blow up for a large amount on the raid. They did handle
all of the adds from the first eggs as we head into the second round of eggs
Canex's health is extraordinarily low he goes down. Fragros health is also very
low. The next set of egg breaks is happening right now. Yeah and this is
very scary because there was one person who did manage to get infested
from the previous ones they unfortunately did miss an egg so they they did have somebody
get infested from the previous set so they had those little parasites kind of following
them along from the previous egg balls. Yeah this is snowballing out of control. Yeah you
are absolutely right that's such a good catch I had missed that infest snowball so quickly
you're right. Yeah because you have the egg break so if you're one of the fixate
targets you need to get into position but you're also trying to run away from the
Parasites which went empowered are much quicker and that was so you could see them kind of trading along
I think there was a vortex out of the back just to make sure that they were kept away so the egg breakers could
Successfully get into position without them hindering it too much
But yes, and the other thing that does is they linger in that area trying to finish off the parasites
They don't get in position soon enough to make it more easy and facilitate
You're getting to your spot with the egg break so we did miss an egg there
But that was significant progress over our post dinner best not still not at our overall best
But that's better than our previous post dinner best top post dinner best
We are now in second area on the second set of x each area of the boss
There's three sections of the boss room and then each area has three subsections
Which is the four eggs that are going to get broken in each round
And they were at that second one so good progress post dinner and we're working out kinks caused in large part by a
a rather large change in our overall comp. We dropped a Death Knight and we
dropped a Guardian Druid, swapped to DPS Druid. We dropped a Shaman, swapped to a
Fury Warrior. So those changes are gonna have rippling effects to our damage
profiles and of course new players needing to learn the difficult moments
of the fight, when they need to personal, when they need to health zone, how
they need to move and dodge and get ready for the waves of mechanics
that they have to adjust to. So good progress there, love to see it, we
need to get another pull and go. There might be some discussions though because one of the reasons
that infests go off, in fact the primary reason if that's go off is if they don't execute their
plan correctly. When executed correctly all of the adds get bumped into range of the sigil of grip
from the demon hunters. Grip by the demon hunters sent into an oppressive roar to
increase the duration of CC into a chaos nova into a leg sweep so that they never get to
fix it off and die ideally before they get a chance to fixate and chase someone down.
If that doesn't happen and someone gets fixated and chased down, things snowball, they want to prevent that.
If they can prevent that by moving some cooldowns through a discussion, then they will.
Absolutely, and also it's worth saying as well that the Demon Hunters bringing the magic damage taken debuff onto anything they target.
They'll need to be getting that out on all of the adds. Meras will have to put the Mystic Touch on all the adds as well.
So not only are they doing all of that, but they have to make sure that they have debuffed all of the adds as well.
is that everybody's doing way more damage to them,
way more, but...
Very true.
Both, a lot of physical damage in this group
from the warriors,
and I think almost everyone else
has exclusively magic damage,
so it's pretty important to get those debuffs out.
Luckily they have,
Sigill of Flame doing a huge amount of AOE,
and they're doing respectable damage on their own,
we've seen Mirrors meanwhile fighting for his life
with those spiders,
because they're not a kill target, really.
They wanna prior kill the parasites as quickly as possible
so they don't get any infest out which cause a cast getting great.
They want to cleave the worms down relatively efficiently
because as long as you keep your kicks rolling,
they're not a huge deal.
Big issue there is that they're kind of spread out and hard to cleave.
And then the spiders are almost the lowest priority.
It's kind of a binary condition almost,
where as long as mirrors is alive, they don't need to die.
You just need them to die before mirrors does.
Ideally cleaned up before the next round of spiders come out,
but as they've been living the longest of all of the ads
And it seems to be by design because as long as your tank is alive, they don't matter too much now
We have been seeing some problems of people popping their damage too soon
Hitting the spiders before mirrors can get aggro and then getting instantly stomped into the crowd DPS would never do that
That must be a very unusual
Mage talking well, I'm far enough away if I get aggro I can shout at me. I'm an IELF. I'm fine
Well, I wonder if we can watch souls POV for the upcoming pool because we've been watching melee and melee is hectic and hard to watch
really showing off that difference in POV.
Solo's almost chilling in the background.
He gets the bird's eye view.
He can see his feet.
He can see what's going on.
He's actually also in control of trying to make sure
that ads that do infestants are chasing people down,
get killed and controlled, right?
Because you've committed all of the stunts and grips.
What are they doing here?
It seems like there's a jump puzzle going on here,
but what if we stand on the eggs?
I can't be quiet.
This is so deep, yes, Brandon.
Probably, you know, being told mechanics,
being told all of these, okay,
you're popping your cooldowns here,
and everyone's like, yep, but can I climb the egg though?
Yeah, yeah, Scribe and Potter are talking about cooldowns.
I'm a warrior and I'm just gonna push Bladestorms,
so what I'm gonna do right now is not listen.
Not important.
Na na na, ooh, egg.
Yeah, pull coming out though.
That means we're gonna focus up
because we do big dam on the pull.
You can see the DPS meter reflecting
no one under two million DPS.
We know those big numbers make big happy brain chemicals as we head into the pool.
Luckily no DPS stuck climbing the eggs and stuck in the middle there so everyone's free
to damage as they are indeed pulling the balls.
Boomkin topping, freeze the meter now, turn off your screen, take a screenshot, boomkins
are fine!
Of course, most likely he's one of the few that's popping cooldowns on the pool.
Everyone else assigned to kill waves of adds coming out.
Yeah, because even though you have this insane amount of AoE on ads that quite rightly do need to die, it's not necessarily bad.
They absolutely need to go down. You do have the damage dealers who are put in a considerable amount of damage into the boss as well.
Alright, first egg breaks going out. They need to make sure that they are breaking every single egg.
They yes, I think that they have successfully worked out boss, but it looks like it and they're still going so they think they're too
For a web diva scrap they need to get dispelled. So the last one he's gonna get the final dispel
We have one infest on Zatsi as we head into the last adds of this section
That infest is expiring now and now we have two little goonies that need to be stopped as a shockwave
That's good
And I think a vortex is likely to go down on them preventing from running around I fix it on reviv
that gets shocked with we want to watch out if it's fixating a melee it's very scary because they
run very very fast it looks like we get them cleaned up as we head in the next round of webs
and then another set of egg breaking yeah they just need to make sure that they are gone before the
next set of eggs need to be broken out they're dropping super low there all right oh egg number
two did they just overlap their circles there when they throw the eggs out so not only do they
have to position the egg breaks in a way that they break those them out but it wasn't
need to be careful of each other as well. This is the scariest pack that goes down without an issue.
No additional fix-aids. I don't think that I can see. Yep, no infest. We're good. They go down
really quickly. That's one of the scariest pulls. They do have the battle res. Yep, look like he got
clipped by a ground puddle. It can catch anyone off guard if you just finish a cast and move
too slowly, but they do have the battle res. They get him up as we head into the final set
of eggs in this section, which is just a double gohouni pack along with two worms and
a couple of spiders. Here it comes right now. Everyone spreads out, gets to their egg overlap,
the egg without overlapping each other. If you do overlap each other, you need a personal to survive.
That is what killed someone earlier. Everyone alive. Parasites grouped up,
gripped together, stunned, oppressive roar. They're not dead yet. Okay.
All right. Absolutely annihilated. They now just have the one empowered worm that
that they need to keep interrupted and the colossal spider see this is again such an excellent
showcase of how much they have planned this out and how much planning really goes into
it because I was saying oh that the spell just flew up on three people get Frango's health
back up okay that was a can recover this it's a little bit a little bit tense luckily none
of those when in a way that is very lucky somehow we're alive everyone alive heading
to the second section. Everything fine. We now need to do a huge amount of healing because waves of
healing absorbs are coming. We see an emergency request and then he goes down. He did in fact
need the personal. Robin is going to be down for the remainder of this poll. We have huge healing
absorbs coming out as we get the set of egg breaks. The heal absorbs have to get topped
before Frago's egg break goes off in three, two, one. Now he's going to die. He's health.
Oh my goodness! Somehow recovers, adds grouped up, stuns go out, we're ailing, but we're missing
Robin's blast and a cast goes off. Yes, this is also the thing of when you lose somebody,
that could have been somebody who is allocated to interrupt. So I'm sure they have backups
allocated just for this very reason, but with how much is going on, you know, if you're called
as an emergency interrupt with the amount of nameplates that are on screen is finding
that correct one that you're supposed to be covering for and react in the space of a second is a lot.
It is a lot. Despite this fight, it's incredibly unforgiving. It is oppressively unforgiving.
This is so exciting. I don't think anyone was expecting this fight to give as much
a pushback as it does. I mean, you were saying that you expected it to be a little bit tough,
but this is really, really shaping up to be an excellent boss. It is. I love this boss. I
I think it's great. We had a little bit of a miscommunication there.
Ryzen did have a Soul Stone. After his spirit form faded,
he Soul Stone came up and raised everyone.
Clicks didn't take anyone with Soul Stone,
released to start running back as the speedy shaman to get everyone raised,
but will likely summon him back or potentially have a conversation about cooldowns
because it looks like maybe one more healer button there would make a big difference.
With only three healers, they need to be very conservative about how they assign cooldowns.
You can't throw a bunch of healing at every single damage event and every single dangerous overlap
You need to be very careful metering those out exactly as necessary and that means that sometimes you're gonna it's gonna be pretty scary to live
Yes, so good example of what you're saying is when we had those egg breaks overlap with each other
I think it was two of the warriors so they took extra damage
I think had the extra healing absorbed right and then just after that
We saw canyx die and it could have been that the healers had to allocate the healing to the two that
accidentally overlap their circles that then they didn't have what they were going to use
to then top cannex who maybe have had the web I can't remember exactly how it played out
but then the healing let's say needed the unavoidable damage also needed to be dealt with but because
you only have the three healers and a very healing intensive fight you can see how one mistake
here has a knock-on effect for something else that happens. It's true and this healer setup
is not super triage heal heavy right the evokers are pretty much always busy setting up their next
engulf you have a holy priest who is sending some flash heals and some serenities things like that
out but he's also focused primarily on the huge amounts of ray damage with three healers not
very many people getting targeted triage healing if you get hit by something unexpected really
illustrating there how difficult breaking these eggs is because you have a group of two eggs
in one cluster that both need to get by two people's overlapping venn diagrams that ideally
don't also then diagram each other. If you do you have to personal. We also saw
there the importance of everyone being alive because one person missing can
miss a disrupt, stun, or kick and cascade. And that second set of ingestion in this
second quadrant has been a kind of a pain point for a while. The first time
they got there they wiped very quickly did not have enough healing allocated.
They allocated a little bit more healing there and it was fine and I think
I think maybe they've pulled a little bit more of it off that they need for
later sessions, and that's leaving it just a little bit
scary. They need just one more button there to keep everyone
safely alive. Because ideally, you want the healing absorbes
healed off before the egg breaks. If you still have the healing
absorb when the egg break happens, it's very, very
dangerous. You're very likely to die because you just have
low health and can't be topped out of the danger zone
when you take that damage. Absolutely. It seems like a few of
the players may be changing some talents around as they
have the summoning stone up. I think Andy is perhaps changing something. I think now
may have been changing something as well. I couldn't see them fully on the raid frames.
You can see Andy's out of range, so I imagine he's probably changing something.
We'll have to see. I don't know anything about Demon Hunter tank talents anyway, so
nothing much I'll be able to say about that, but he might be. Some adjustments perhaps
They're also having a conversation. You can see Scribe talking, you can see Jinji working on Wikora's.
Satsi not accepting a res means that he's working on something.
And I wouldn't be at all surprised if Potter were working on healing cooldowns right now because that was a moment that was just a little bit insufficiently safe.
We needed more buttons in there. I wonder, do we have Potter POV? What's he doing right now?
Maybe, but...
Yeah, he's talking. Yeah. This is a healer's trying to fix moment.
Yeah, there was just a Wikora in there that said, oh, it's Mikey.
That's happened so many times when you have that countdown go out at the start of a mythic
boss and then the inevitable, oh that thing is happening, oh it's my key and then obviously
when you put the keystone into the keystone, there is a slight delay between when you can
activate it, I think it's a few seconds, so it's that party because oh it's my key
so it's just amused me then, that may have happened to me earlier.
Potter chattering away, probably talking with Rycen and showing that they move enough healing
to that exact moment to cover it, but not so much healing that they're missing some later.
This is a very tight healing check and it's exactly the kind of thing Potter is famous
for.
Before this exact tier, he took the entirety of Dragonflight off.
Are we seeing Minnie come back in?
We have a Minnie.
Yeah, the fourth DJ.
Are we?
Okay, so that might be why Andy's out.
Andy might have hurt that because we're going to swap Canucks back to Druid and
bring Mini back in for that slot and then keep the Warrior for the Shaman.
It's nice to see them changing things around and experimenting with various things.
It's Canak's Swap...thing...to Bear...
Oh yeah, he has a...it got in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're right.
They experimented with a couple of different changes. They did a couple
different changes coming in here, right?
They dropped a Shaman for a Warrior. That's staying. They like that change.
They also swapped Canucks from Guardian to DPS so they could bring in a Demon Hunter and drop
the Death Knight to make room for that. It looks like they are reverting that one, which I agree with.
I think that the Druid Tank is a smaller loss from Demon Hunter Tank than Druid DPS is from
Death Knight. Going from Death Knight to Druid DPS is a huge loss of single target and daily
damage, whereas going from Demon Hunter Tank to Druid Tank is a much, much smaller loss.
So I think this is a good change
Not that it matters what I think they're gonna do what they think is best and they're much much smarter than I am
But I'm glad to see that they continue tinkering with us and we we talked about this
We said that's not gonna be the final computer. No, and I don't think this is gonna be the final comp
Still, that's our chorus. They have so much a we in this and I wonder how much they are taking off of the boss
Because the boss is looking a little bit. How's the boss's health is high
They are gonna have to find some more boss damage that could also be with that comes with progress, right?
We always see that you find damage the more comfortable you get with the fight
So it could just be that everybody's focusing so much on when they're popping their cooldowns their utility as well making sure that all of those
Parasites are kept
Seriously controlled making sure they know when they're interrupting which one they're interrupting
So naturally you find more damage over time as everyone gets way more comfortable with fight way more comfortable when they're popping
What they're popping. Sorry was that Swedish? I think some people in Minnie's group are speaking Swedish. Yeah, that was Kush
Can we pop up sorry I interrupted you
POV yeah, what is this they're arguing about gems and things
Okay, here's can't experience. I'm just watching to see if he sets anything up differently as we head into a new
rejiggered raid comp which I think is a good change and I think that they're gonna
like this because they were struggling a little bit with killing ads fast enough
and I think they noticed that they had lower boss damage I was watching that as
well prior to the dinner break they were having the boss come out of the
first segment at 70 ish percentile this time it was more like 72 73 doesn't
sound like a big difference but it is absolutely fast so I think they were
they gave this a try and said okay we've lost too much boss damage let's
bring the Death Knight back in because Death Knights are kind of the king of this encounter
with the huge amount of AoE and single target boss damage they gain from that collapse.
Yeah, they don't lose anything from dealing AoE or dealing single target. They kind of
just do a large amount of both. So this fight is very much suited to their damage profile
as we are going into another pull. We have Canik's back on the Guardian Druid. We
We have Mini back in that makes 4 DKS.
Alright, let's see how it goes.
Alright, Mini's POV as we head into this fight.
Luckily he had already practiced this fight for 10-15 pulls before the dinner break.
We shouldn't see any issues with his weak ores or sink.
As we head into the first damage, the boss will walk up to the canister, ingest it,
and send out waves of healing absorbs this, the least scary one.
All of the healers have all of their buttons.
They can send a few to make sure everyone stays safe.
without healing absorb comes off I am also wondering when they're going to
bloodlust as well you often see bloodlust using a variety of ways you have
the progress lust and then when you're going for the kill you'll see the kill
lust it doesn't seem like they are bloodlusting on pull and they have some
scary overlaps here so it probably be much later into the fight so we keep an
eye on that when they're using it as they're breaking the first egg packs
now making sure they see the
cover. Can we go to someone who
cares about their raid frames?
Then, or POV, please. Perfect.
Everyone alive.
Okay, so it seems like they did
successfully break free the
eggs as they move on over to the
other, the next egg cluster
breakage. They didn't have any
additional parasites as well,
very keen to look out for because they do have to allocate resources to deal with those extra parasites.
All right, we have webs into egg breaking, making sure that they are overlapping.
Yes, we're now getting our debuffs for our second set of egg breaking.
We need everyone positioned well without overlapping each other.
We get all of the eggs, bump them together, grip them together.
We have two parasites outside of the grip.
We need death knights to grip them into the stunts.
One of them running a little bit free.
We need to avoid that infest one parasite at very high health in the back needs to get stopped while maintaining
Your kicks on those worms parasite running free, but still not infesting anyone luckily
Can we get it down?
It was outside of a we which made it live for a really long time
I mean that just goes to show right how powerful that a we is because once it's gone
It almost didn't die
But they did get it under control and everyone is alive as we head into the third set of X
Yeah, we have the two parasites, one spider and one worm here, so we're dealing with these
as we have the third and final egg breaking of this area of the room, making sure that
the webs are not overlapping, not bruising anyone.
Oh, so we almost missed their overlap.
Health is a little bit low on Frago, but we have time to get him top to get to fix
it, but it gets stopped very good.
All of the parasites grouped up.
This one was so much cleaner.
Absolutely.
much cleaner. We just have a spider left. Yes, they're also killed that worm much faster
than usual. There's one worm that gets mutated by the black ooze there, but it looked like
they got the cleave on it so much better this time. Yeah, that went down a lot quicker.
All right, they are moving the bosses far away as they possibly can. While still having
it closest to the canister they want the boss to go to next. They have as much uptime
on the boss as it runs over to the canister at 100 energy. You can see it going
over to devour the spider area.
Can't stand now very scary.
This is where we've lost people before.
Waves of healing absorbs coming in with damage right now
when we're sending a bunch of healer buttons and gulfs
coming out of evokers.
Halo coming out of rice and and a divine him as well
to try to keep everyone safe.
It's a scary divine him because there's
swirly's coming at the same time.
Last healing absorb comes out with the egg break debuffs.
We need to get everybody top particularly.
Oh, good AMS perfect.
That was perfect.
He needed to do that or he was likely to die.
But our health is looking pretty good.
As the adds come out, we have empowered spiders now that Mira's has to get aggro on, so he picks up the poison instead of anyone else.
Genji ice blocks very, very low. Well done. Everyone's still alive. The adds are under control with no infest.
Just one worm off to the side that makes them make sure they get kicked and cleaved ideally.
Yeah, it has a 90% HP, so it's a little bit high.
That's a healthy worm.
Yeah, I think they can get some cleave out to it as they go over to the next set of eggs
Yeah solid you ideally already be there
It's gonna be difficult for people to get their debuffs in the right spot for the egg breaks that are already coming out
We were slowed down by that warm not getting cleaved correctly. Hopefully they can get in the right spot
Yes, we'll have the three tank spiders. I think oh no two two parasites. We lose Wolf Disco. We have a battle race
fighters
one worm
We need Wolf this go up. He needs to spin to win on this set
Just need somebody no one has a global to present right now because they're dealing with all of the ads
Okay, all right, the rest goes out. Yes, and no infest and everything that except for a spider and a worm
So this is actually cleaned up from where it was before we're actually safer than we were a moment ago
And we were dealing with that worm for way too long
We're going to the third set of eggs in this section. This is excellent to see as a couple more three more
or mutated spiders.
Mirrors is healthy because the spiders still aren't dead.
We need a Reson Thaner right now.
He comes up and the egg breaks are going out now
with three mutated spiders coming very, very soon.
Yeah, they just need to make sure
that they are killing those spiders in good time.
Unfortunately, that Swirly overlapping with the egg break
but they couldn't really do much about it.
Everyone's, ah, there goes Robin.
There goes Wolf Disco.
Mini's going next.
He somehow gets a heal.
Everyone's very, very low.
These Swirly's are so punishing.
You could see they were positioned
exactly under Mini there, but you have to break the eggs and have position himself in a way that they had the Venn diagram going to break the eggs out.
And Mirrod's succumbed to the spiders. Yeah, it's over now. Bleeding out.
A new post sooner best, but what we saw happen there was this kind of, it lasted for two or three minutes.
A cascade caused by several minutes ago, one worm, not getting cleaved down, took forever to kill it because it wasn't in any of the AoE damage,
which delayed them getting the second set which delayed them killing that set which just
Cascaded throughout the entire pull until they got to that point
Ideally that was the cleanest pull off to there though. So that is great. It was very good
We also saw some pretty good boss damage
But it shows one of the other you know highlights of this fight that we haven't talked about very much
Which is the importance of boss position
I mean the tank obviously dragging the melee along with them like a little lost land that are not gonna leave melee range
Come on, this way!
And if the tank hasn't positioned the boss
between the next four eggs we're gonna get broken,
it's very difficult to get to your spot
in the six seconds you have,
which results in these struggles.
It's almost like the boss is like a glowy light.
Everyone's just kind of like, ooh, yeah,
they're just like, boss, like, this way!
My picture mirrors.
What is that, the old fairy tale song?
Little Bo Peep has lost her sheep.
Oh!
Yeah, he's got his little sheep.
Mary's gonna be Bo Peep.
Yeah, he's Bo Peep.
Although I guess it's actually Cannex because currently, and the reason some of you may be
wondering, we are three taking, we're three taking because Mirrors is going to tank the
spiders and whoever tanks the spiders gets this massive healing reduction once they're
mutated that really just prevents you from getting topped.
You saw how dangerously low he got there with the spiders lingering.
If you can't get topped, oh, okay, we have a replay here.
So this was where Mini looked at AMS.
Yeah, so you can kind of see how it's just the such type positioning with the
randomness of the Swirlies as well. It perfectly lined itself up exactly where
Mini had to stand. You see they're going in for the egg break. They have to make
sure they bend diagram while not getting hit by each other's Swirlies and Mini
really didn't have much space to move. They both made the play right? They
both had Swirlies on them at the same time as the egg break. They get AMSs
out, which keeps them alive through the huge amount of magic damage coming from that swirly,
and they get the egg broken. Really good job, but their healths are dangerously low because
of that extremely scary overlap.
Yeah, and that is like the really quick thinking and showcases how good these players are,
the fact that they can kind of evaluate everything that's going on, take those little snippets
of information, and make that split second decision of, there's no really that I
can adjust to. I need to pop this, and know that like this is definitely going
like, can we have a struggle here?
This is what I'm using.
And I'm not going to need this for a set of different parts
of the fight.
So, yeah, that was a game of the move.
They've only seen that part of the fight, that last set of eggs
in the second section before the little run they do with the boss.
They've only seen that once before, I think.
So this is their second best pull.
By far their best after dinner.
So really good progress being made here.
And now, ideally, we need to get to the point where we are actually progressing.
I'm very curious to see what they're going to do.
Because on their best pull ever,
they got through that set of eggs with everyone alive,
did the heroic mode run of the boss down the little narrow corridor between the
goon and everyone died there because you had you know one centimeter of space
with puddles and then you just fell over dead I wonder if they're gonna give up
on the idea of trying to elongate her run because it's scary between the
extremely narrow corridor of goons. Yeah it'll be interesting to see what HP the
boss is at when they get later and later into the fight whether that little
bit of min-maxing, dragging the boss as far as possible, it's going to make up for the
damage gained as opposed to the potential of losing someone, right?
Yeah, I get a good point.
We'll keep an eye on it.
Okay, we're going into another pull.
Very good to see.
But yeah, we were talking about the three tanking situations.
For the first quadrant, mirrors isn't, you know, necessary.
You don't need a third tank until the spiders become mutated.
Once they become mutated, the tank that's tanking the spiders cannot get topped.
If you can't get top then this tank debuff going out, this volatile concoction explodes
for way more damage, a raid killing amount of damage.
And so right now the fight almost requires that third tank.
You could make up for it with potentially a dedicated tank killer in order to get through
that healing debuff, but it seems much more scary and dangerous and they're not interested
in doing that yet.
We're dealing with the first set of raid damage and healing absorbs coming out
as the boss ingests that goo and then we're going to set into our first egg
break of this pull. Alright,
making sure that they are successfully breaking all of the ads out, which it seems they do
gripping all of the parasites as the warriors are about to spin.
Oh, it goes down. So does Jinji. Two people did this earlier. I think they're going to
jump off the edge. I wonder what went wrong here.
I think a kick was missed. I had DPS Brain where I saw all of the mobs on screen.
I'm so excited. So the war is doing very much damage. Yeah, I was pressing just one button that the war is pressing the
Oh, but it's a whirlwind. That's the way it's on.
I think there's only two real things that can cause, you know, a sudden shocking reduction in rate health like that
It's either a kick going off, which is most likely because two worms are up or a volatile concoction expiring with a tank of
insufficiently high health. That they've had kind of sorted out right you have
canyx and nice memes swapping back and forth maintaining their health.
Bryson doing a lot of triage healing making sure those are top he's using a
weak aura to have a glowy frame on whichever tank
is going to have that debuff expire and blow up on the raid so that's been
handled fairly well. A couple of missed kicks here and
there usually only when someone has died right before the kick so
something may have gone wrong there but an early wipe is better than
a late in the first quadrant wipe that you don't learn anything from and takes the time.
I did not know that you could reset this boss, which it seems that's what happened. The boss was reset.
You're right. I just meant I didn't know you could reset the boss. It seems like if the boss goes
off the edge it'll reset the encounter. I didn't think that would be the case.
I would have thought that everybody would have needed to jump off to just everybody die.
Oh, I didn't see what happened. I was looking at you. You're saying that.
I thought you're making a joke that they were resetting the boss.
Oh no no no! The boss legitimately reset.
The target she was targeting jumped off and while he was falling before he was dead,
she evaded and reset, I guess.
I didn't see it. That is kind of interesting.
Yeah, I didn't even reset this boss. But anyway, we are into our next pull.
We'll have the boss charging over to the canister when it reaches a hundred energies.
Now, a considerable amount of healing absorbed across the raid,
making sure that everybody is dodging those swirlies as well.
Yep, the swirlies are very dangerous. They are a one shot if you get clipped and they can be hard to see
This is the easiest moment. They are to see later. They're gonna be covered in 20 little worms
First set of debuffs coming out with this last he'll absorb already healed off very very safely these debuffs need to overlap on the eggs
Ideally without overlapping on it. Oh, yeah, just missed too much greed
We're going off the edge.
Didn't quite go to the other side there, so the cycle didn't clip this cluster of parasites.
That is unfortunately a white.
Let's see if the boss resets here.
Maybe that was just the fluke.
It's raining raiders.
It's raining raiders.
Off the edge.
It might be a case of everybody is jumping off.
They did seem like they did reset the boss last time, so, alright.
I don't know what happened there, but...
If Wolkis goes alive, maybe it'll work.
Nope, nope, everyone's dead and then she slurs back.
Maybe that was a one-off.
But yeah, so two pulls back to back
that we lose on that first set of ads, unfortunately,
but it does happen.
It does look like, that's one of the groups of eggs
that has two eggs right next to each other,
both of which need to be overlapping broken
and we missed one, but you know that,
just slight bit off and the micro movements
are very important.
An undersold and understated aspect of skill in wow
is that the movement and positioning,
you really have to be in full control
and very mindful of your micro movements
and not be mindlessly strafing for no reason,
particularly when you need the Venn diagram
and overlap these eggs.
Yeah, because you often see that people
would just make a micro adjust
without even realizing it most of the time.
And that offset of positioning
can have a knock on effect to everybody else around you.
So they have to be very precise, very consistent,
especially with the egg breaks, right?
Your partner moves even a tad that can offset kind of where you're sounding as well because they can't overlap them while also vendiogramming them.
You know what I love though? And I'm not saying that they didn't notice. I'm just saying that they didn't bother jumping off until they had finished blade storming everything that had spawned.
But it's really important to pad the meters on a wipe so I look really good to everybody.
I wonder if this is like the bloodless phenomenon that scribe talks about right?
Oh, everyone's talking and laughing and joking until we pop bloodless images sit down and focus
There as an entire set of eggs just doesn't get popped and everyone's just like nope
I'm blade storming. I'm a wing doesn't matter now all of them. Oh, yeah, there's a jump off
That is a very important part of progress patting the meters on a why yeah super important
You know they call they call for everyone to die
But you know later in the night the raid leader is going to look at the percentage of time you were alive and you were dead
So you want to be the last one to die to maximize your alive percentage and not look like the dying is a member of the raid group
It's super important
This is bad be a bad reader too with me and Jesse just make sure you pop in your health stone as well
Yeah, on the logs it shows that you've health stone every single fall
Instantly first thing to do you lose some health you pop your health stone that way if you die later
you can blame the healers. I already have my also not cool down. Couldn't be my fault.
Bad Raider tips 101. How to fail a trial in one day.
You too could in your progress.
Yeah. Just like us. The web eruption. We have had a couple of people going a little bit
right before that a spell against some people rooted, which is shockingly high damage. This
fight is very unforgiving. There's a certain amount of damage that's kind of programmed in
and unavoidable ray damage that's supposed to happen
and that already is draining the healer's ability
to match it.
When you add in something you're supposed to take,
it's often gonna result in a death
because this fight is not allowing you
to make those avoidable errors.
I really love the tuning on this fight.
They have done an excellent job
because they've made everything important,
everything dangerous,
slight mistakes have a huge snowball knock-on effect.
This is fantastic.
It is as we're heading into another poll,
everyone gets to do some opener DPS,
But interestingly, unlike most fights,
the majority of the raid is holding their cooldowns here.
I think the Shaman perhaps are sending a Navy of the Rogue.
Most people are sending their cooldowns on the eggs
coming out in about 20 seconds.
First, Botzling is gonna charge forward.
Eat up all that black goo, send out waves of healing
absorbs that the healers have to deal with,
but this first one should be no trouble at all.
They've been dealing with it successfully
several times in a row.
They want to get the last healing absorb healed off,
and those are the debuffs you see popping up right now
so you can track it as well,
Before the eggs need to be broken because that does a lot of damage to everyone who has an egg breaking debuff
And they're in danger if that goes off while they have an eel and absorb
But all absorbs are off except kush that one goes off as well now the eggs are being popped
Let's look at these eggs and make sure that every single one gets broken
But we did miss two parasites that did not get into the grip from the demon hunters
They did not get bumped into the middle so
Ideally we're blasting them down before they can get a fix it off one of them still alive because of that
But they manage it all of them down. No one fasts. Yeah, they go the worms going down as well as they are moving on over to the second egg break of this area of the room
They will have the three parasite packs to deal with a very scary, but very exciting for the AOE DPS
And first I have to deal with the web making sure that they are not on top of anyone as they get dispelled
they're going to be able to
get into position with the eggs
now being broken, making sure
they are then diagramming them
in the little egg glass of the
supposed to be breaking. Not
overlapping anyone as they have
the parasites now going out,
making sure that they're CC'd
or have the absolutely annihilated
by the DPS. Good other sign
here and the worms making sure
they're getting interrupted as
well. They can't hurt any of
We have two extra parasites coming out because he did get an infest cast on him was unable to evade it
So ideally we get these killed and controlled some focused damage going on to them a stun as well
So that we can move on and not have to deal with an extra set of parasites as we head into the last set of eggs
Ten ten million nine million five million dead. All right
We're on the last set of eggs
Hopefully we can succeed on this one because we want to move on to that second area and succeed there
So first we have the webs and the egg breaks at the same time. Let's get them all grouped up here comes the grip
We got all but one one of the back fixating on kush. We need to get that controlled look how fast it is
Oh my goodness
It's kind of good because it was out of position and then it quickly ran into the CC
But if it hadn't done fun as it ran in that would have been a quick
Yeah, wow, they get very speedy
Demolish
We're not quite out of this area of the room yet.
We want to be at around 71%, ideally a little bit lower.
That would be our best coming out of this area, but they've clearly moved some damage there
because that worm that was previously a problem got absolutely destroyed.
72%, 71, this is our best from before as we move into area number two.
Now watch everyone's health bars.
We're going to get three waves of healing absorbs that need to be healed off before the egg breaks.
So that was really interesting there.
They move the boss as far away as they possibly can
so that it's running towards the container but then they warlock gate over to the boss so they get
as much uptime as possible not only from the boss running over also because it's a little bit quicker
they're then warlock gating to get back uh ready this is really clever healing really clever healing
he uses him on the second healing absorb to top that off and that relieves the healing buff
up to help them with the third healing absorb everyone alive as they do the egg break get
the adds grouped up the halo is pumping mirrors unfortunately going down as
those spiders blast him we need to have some nice memes to pick them up and this
is gonna be a very big struggle because nice memes has both stacks of the venom
and that concoction on as well they need to keep him top it's about to explode
into damage there was health is very low velo goes down this is exactly why
you three think but we have another res for velo as mirrors is getting
trucked by the spiders after his res as well pick velo up mirrors goes down
Instead we are going to be wiping inevitably at some point the only question now is when
Yeah, because this is kind of the furthest far they've gotten to the fight right this second egg break in this area
Is the progress point as they are making sure to get into position for these ones?
We have three tank spiders with no spider tank and one healer down. This is going nowhere fast
Yeah, making sure that nobody is getting our go
Well, if that's aggro, Robin goes down.
Perfecto is in danger.
Frago is going to die.
He's got an infest.
Zassi's got a fixate, and he's running for his life.
And we have the weapons going out as well with one less healer.
That's one more dispel.
Perfecto has double infest.
Oh, he's fighting for his life.
Zassi's picked up an infest.
Mears goes down for a third, second, second time.
Yeah, but this is well catastrophically on its way to doom already.
Yeah.
Here come the eggs, doesn't matter, everyone's dead.
So yeah, that was really interesting.
We hadn't had any problems there.
Mirrors just got stomped as he picked up those spiders.
You would normally expect that to happen
after he'd been tanking them for a while
and had the empowered spider debuff reducing
his healing taken, but he got crushed there
and then they killed Velo.
The other tanks did a really good job of picking them up,
but that means that the volatile concoctions
do more raid damage to putting everyone else in danger
and it cascaded from there.
Yeah, that wasn't white, that best pull percentage wise, but that is a very close to that progression
point coming out of that second area of the second room.
Looks like we also lost our Soul Stone.
Clix actually using the Ankh, so Vela released to run back in Reds.
Clix used his Ankh to get the AoE Reds.
Unfortunate.
Yeah, I mean, I mean you can't count on Ankh, right?
No, but also, I don't know if it's necessarily gonna come into it on these progress pulls
because when you lose somebody, the knock-on effect is so large that it could very well
be a wipe just from one mistake at any time.
It's not like other fights where it's a little bit more forgiving.
Unlike most classes' personal, the shaman personal knows Ankh.
Can only be used once every four or five pulls.
It's a 20 minute cooldown isn't it?
Yeah it's a, I don't know, it depends on if you take the talent that speeds up it's recharging.
So very long cooldown personal, I think the longest cooldown personal.
A very strong defensive but clicks choosing to use it to diminish the amount of time that
they're waiting between pulls here which I certainly respect.
If you can't use it every fight then it might as well not exist.
Very few kills have been saved by an onking shaman, although it does definitely happen
every now and then. Yeah because it's not as if they're in the position where
this boss is gonna die so that on play can really help them. So getting everybody
alive with its full trigger is very important. Some talent adjustments here
from Thaner, interesting to see. Yeah, Thaner's doing a lot of damage. Yes, which is what you would expect, right? The rep
Paladin being brought in because they can send a huge amount of AoE, it is his
job to do a lot of AoE and if he weren't doing it he'd have been sent
to the bench by now. So sending a lot of good damage from the wake of ashes and the divine
storm spam. Everyone, you know, it's really good. I like seeing Raiders as they move through a boss,
tinker with their talents, experiment with new things. If you're going to spend 40, 50, 60, 100
pulls on a boss, you might as well try things, even if you don't think they're likely to do that
good, because you can be wrong. You can be mistaken. And sometimes you find a hidden
little gem of something that's really, really good, especially there. He was adjusting his
utility right he's got some offheeling as a rep outlet and certainly has a lay on
hands of boppin like that good to adjust that make sure you're getting the
most value you can as we head into another pull all right whilst reaching a
hundred energy you can start charging across the first canister making sure
that the raiders are avoiding the webs and starts consuming forcing out
swirlies across the raid making sure you're dodging those while thinking
about getting into position for the egg breaks, which are incoming.
They have to make sure that they are cracking open every single one.
We'll have to make sure that all eggs are broken in mythic.
There is no wiggle room at all.
All right, we're adjusting to that was a little bit late, but he got there.
I think, yes, we broke everything.
We're now bumping the parasites in to get gripped by our demon hunter sigil.
They all got gripped this time.
They're getting mowed down very, very well.
They're casting fixate.
You want to prevent those fixates from going off because if the fix it cast goes off on someone in melee
They can instantly infest but luckily this time will skill look all of them were killed in time
No infestations all ads did it were incredibly smoothly as we head in the round to yeah
They absolutely melted gain any additional parasites very nice to see so we'll have webs incoming
into egg breaks. Now, this is
egg break clusters as they
have the three parasites
that they'll need to absolutely
annihilate as I'm sure the
warriors of the outside. Oh,
that was really but he got it
eggs right next to it as
well. Alright, this is every
DPS is a dream. We'll have
the frost decays annihilating
along with the warriors
they fixate onto their target. That was so good. That was so clean. They absolutely melted. We are
left with two tank spiders and one worm and moving on over to the final egg set of this area of the
room. We're going to get some swirls into webs plus egg raking, but they have so much time to
pre-position for this because they were so clean on the second wave. You can see how just like
bad things escalate throughout the fight. Good things do too. We are well positioned
to be able to get into our spots to break these eggs this is the third and final egg break of the
section with just two clusters of parasites get him to spell there's the tiger's lusmini's health is
very low, Frago's got a healing absorb seal and health is very low but it looks like we're all okay
parasites are oppressive roared and leg sweep and mowed down the worm is a little bit higher
health than we've been used to seeing for the last two pulls so we're going to pull the boss
next to that worm right behind him in the goo you can see and he's going to get cleaved
down and now everything is dead with the boss at 71% already! This is our best pull ever in terms
of moving out of the first section into the second section. Absolutely! Not only did those ads get
absolutely obliterated but also this is I think the best boss presented to them. Can we get 69%
we can? That's nice! Nice! Charging over to the next canister you'll see the melee who are
They're taking the Warlock gate to get as much uptime on the boss as possible.
AMZ goes down because we need all the help we can for our healers.
Ryson's going to be sending out a halo and himming on the second round.
We have three rounds of healing absorbs and this is quite tight.
We've had people die here before.
So send those personals as needed.
Second set getting himmed off.
Third set is off as well and everyone except Robin who doesn't have an egg
break. So it is okay. Look at everyone's health.
All eggs broken. Yes.
They are one parasite missed in the back.
There's three at the other side as well.
So a few parasites a little bit out of position,
but it may not necessarily matter as they kind of speed under the bus
and get caught by the CC goes down.
I don't think anybody got one parasite running really, really fast.
It's heading toward rice and it's casting infest on rice
and it lands the infest on rice and very unfortunate.
We are now heading to the second egg break of this area
with a set of parasites going to be coming out
that they have to basically ignore.
They have to bring them close enough and try to deal with them in this round of egg breaks
because the egg breaks are coming right now.
The parasites ideally don't get out of control while they're dealing with it.
No, we have all...
Oh, goodness, this is tough.
Yeah, it is tough, so I have to make sure that they are also successfully breaking
the next round of eggs.
Maybe they can take those parasites in with these ones.
Now they can.
They all get gripped in and cc'd and absolutely obliterated once again.
We have the three Tank Spiders I think in this pack if I remember rightly are maybe two.
I think this one's two and three in the mix.
Okay, two and then a worm, as they are repositioning your boss.
Oh, that Guardian Spirit and a landhands, a little bit overcommitted but it'll blend
near to south of the solo.
Where is the Guardian Spirit?
Yeah.
And a worm cast went off.
Oh.
Yeah, that worm in the goo over there, the empowered worm gaining extra haste essentially,
Those casts are super speedy.
It's much more difficult to keep.
Kind of see there.
Yeah, the parasites gaining extra movement speed
to chase their fixate target down.
The worms gaining additional hastily
are casting much quicker.
And the tank spiders being extra ouchy on the tank.
That was so close to having recovered
from a couple of invests going off.
It was very, very close.
No, no, still not.
They're very, well, is it?
I wasn't sure.
I don't think it is.
No, it's not because their best pull was having cleared the entire second section and heading into the third
So mechanically and health percentage wise it was not their best. It is their best of the evening
But still some work to be done because I think
You know, maybe it's a little bit over bowl to do this
But I do want to attribute a lot of that wipe to the existence of that invest that invest had not gone effect because a lot
Of damage was committed there
We weren't able to kill off the spiders nearly as fast as we normally did because anytime parasites are alive
they are a higher priority than the spiders. That means that Meera's was struggling much, much harder.
He eventually goes down and we're trying to save him at the same time.
Things just got lost in the sauce. A kick went off and that was it. But you see the importance
of making sure that any error is avoided because any error can catastrophically cascade
the rest of the raid. Yeah, it's errors but also allocation of resources, right? If somebody
makes a mistake and takes a little bit of extra healing, that's healing then taken off of
where it may be needed. For example on the web dispels and then even with the extra parasites
that's damage taken off of the targets that really need to be prioritized at that point
aka the tank spiders as they are frantically trying to finish them off to not reach their
new fixated target. So they just it's just noble it's viral is out of control and it's
fantastic so much. It is and that's such a really good point because what we saw happened
there was exactly what you said.
Thanar took damage from a dispel going off, where it shouldn't quite have, almost dies.
In order to save his life, we send the Guardian Spirit and the Lay on Hands at the exact same
moment that Meera's is getting absolutely demolished by spiders.
One or two seconds later, Meera's dies.
Had those cooldowns not been committed to Thanar, they would have been available for
him and potentially prevented that entire wipe, although we did have a kick go off
a little bit later, which almost certainly wasn't Meera's kick, and that would
have ended it as well.
But you can see how it is very important to avoid as much damage as possible, play as cleanly
as possible because every resource, particularly healer resources on this fight, but even the
DPS resources as well, is already planned for and having emergencies arise that require
resources means that future planned uses of those resources are obviated and you end
up kind of screwed.
Yeah, absolutely.
And they might be doing a little bit of adjusting, saw a talent change from Jinji.
I didn't quite see what he changed.
I was an aged man, you wouldn't care.
He's not on damage meter at all.
He's only there to buff everyone else.
Yeah, but all right, let's look at boss damage.
I bet it's up in boss damage.
I think a couple of them do show boss damage.
We have a lot of DPS in Scroop, maybe.
It's the DPS that are at the bottom of the beaters
that change their damage shown to beat
boss damage from themselves.
You know what? That is true. That is true.
There's nothing I respect more than hopefuls damage meter,
which just shows two people.
If he's not on the top two, he doesn't care.
He's quitting.
That's an awful move.
We have been joined, I think, over on the Analyst Desk by the lovely, the wonderful, the sophisticated, the sublime, and the beautiful, Alex!
Oh, hey, it's me! How's it going, guys? How are you doing?
I'm doing well, thank you. I'm mucking around with the little new tool that we've got, but I'm not ready to show off just yet, but it seems like I've got it somewhat functioning.
So I've got some cool stuff coming up. But if you do have any questions, such as the one that you just asked, that I can't remember what it was, feel free to throw it my way, and I can see if I can answer some things for you.
Will do it. Is this the tool we've been looking forward to?
forward to. Yes, I've got it up and running on this, so probably after this pull we'll be able to
show you the very best one that we had and what caused the bite. Keep it nice and simple.
We need to ease into it. We'll ease into it. So we've got an exciting new tool to share with
chat that's going to help us illustrate exactly what's going wrong or right with pulls. It'll
bring that to you live from the Max Role Analysis desk after this pull. But first,
we need to get through this pull and hopefully we see some progress. It is time,
We're an hour past the dinner break. We need to get back up to where we were as we head into the first eggs of the first section
We should see no mistakes here the final healing dub debuff going out and the egg debuffs going out right now
Everyone's gonna scatter over to their four marked eggs and get them broken you have six seconds to get positioned Tanner has once
Okay, we're there
Good. Yeah. Oh, he almost moved away a little bit too early. That was some min max gaming
But we do get all the parasites grouped up, mowed down,
one parasite remaining alive as we start focusing on the worm
to the left and then we'll come in first.
Do you have a scooch in the boss over a little bit
just so that the worms can be cleaned?
Always min-maxing that cleaning.
Really important.
We had one white cause by not getting that done
and the worms living too long.
But this one was handled just fine
as we head into eggs number two.
Yeah, this is one of the scariest ones
with the three parasites.
I say that but it seems like they are dying so quick.
What are we doing with Macros?
What are you doing, Zerwo?
He's working on Macros in the middle of the boss fight,
the hardest boss fight of the tier thus far.
No big deal.
It's not hard enough for Zerwo.
He's just adding more difficulty to his gameplay here.
8PM, wow.
He's having a wonderful time in range.
Look at the range, BLV.
He's chilling.
Yeah, imagine being in melee right now.
This is that sweaty meme all over the world.
The Smurdy's!
The Alphars.
But, substantively, it looks like we are running into the goo right now and dying on purpose
because an egg was missed on green.
Wild Zerobo was playing his games on the other side of the boss that we couldn't see.
We did not get the green egg popped.
Yeah, absolutely.
As we are getting the master's out to save as much time as possible.
I don't know if you know this, Alex, but they're ready for you.
They instantly swapped you on camera.
Oh, everyone in chat watching you work.
Stop, how's it going?
I wasn't ready.
That's what I figured.
This is where I'm here, Liv.
I know.
I know.
This is where I'm here, Liv.
I thought it was so intimidating.
I don't know what's going on.
Don't help.
Oh, man.
You guys were asking about who was doing most damn,
yeah?
Yeah.
To the boss.
Boss game specifically.
for short one step don't go to my screen just yet now you can okay major
okay major coping about major so this is from a very recent wipe I think it's more
important to take from a a recent wipe rather than anything else on this one
is five minutes long this is the 52% let's make it so it is based on all
damage entirely not ignoring any deaths you can see there's a reason that
we're bringing all of it yeah now real quick before we look at anything else
Can you swap it to Parasite damage? I just want to see how high the blood is. The death knights are on that as well
So you can see that the fury worries really start to take over a little bit
But still mini up there, Narko up there, Perfecto up there
One thing you might see that as we go down we do have some deaths on here
So I think because we've had some deaths it kind of corrupts the data
So I'm just going to ignore events after two deaths, which you can do very easily
Normally it's quite a nice thing to do when you're looking at your own logs as an example
Just after certain of our deaths it's best to kind of ignore the data because it starts to get a bit messy
But yes, this is a blood parasite damage here
You can also see some Closal Spider damage here as well, you can see some Worm damage which, there you go, now you can actually start to see where the lock is useful.
Yes, where the range is taking a little bit more of a front-facing part, picking up a little bit of the slack of the melee, but yes, in terms of just pure boss damage, you can see why we wanted to get a bunch of frosty caves.
Yeah, this is fantastic as well because they don't necessarily lose single target from dealing
AoE or AoE from dealing single target.
They're just absolutely annihilating all aspects.
Just slamming perv up, why not?
Pretty cool.
Yeah, pretty cool.
Really cool to see.
All right.
Looks like we have some people still dead and some chairs empty.
I think we are on a little bit of a break.
We should take advantage of that as well because we don't want to miss a single
moment of the action.
So let's send it over to comms for just a little bit, we'll run to the bathroom, we'll
be back hopefully before they pull.
Yeah, welcome.
This is probably some VK lawyership guys, yeah?
Yo, yo, yo.
Just make sure they keep you.
Okay.
Saying it one last time, if you want the TTS, you need to have the map enabled.
If you don't want the visual of the map, you can just move it off screen and keep
it enabled.
Or you don't have the TTS.
Because I was telling Scribe, I don't think he should be talking.
Then get the edge, get the edge.
Just in front of you.
I'm in both of them.
I think all three of them.
I think CAC work is a...
Obviously they can't do any significant progression without us.
So we have returned.
We have the Zalogy.
Yeah.
For those who don't know what's going on with the face paint.
I keep forgetting that I'm casting like this.
You guys clearly don't.
We had a charity goal at $4,000 a few hours ago,
which you guys blasted past by $4,400.
That Jordan would paint me up a zalajee for charity.
You guys achieved that goal, and she had a lot of fun
putting it on my face, and it was very relaxing as well.
Yeah, I wonder if there's loads of glitter
on the Maxwell analyst list now.
I did wash some of it off,
but the eye runes I thought were so lovely.
I've kept those on, and the eyeliner suits me.
So, we'll keep it on for now.
For those wondering what's going on, Echo has been pulling Mythic Brood twister for several
hours now, before and after the dinner break.
We are at 39 total pulls on the boss.
We've reached 43.4% on our very best pull, which ended as we exited the second segment
of the room, heading toward the third segment of the room, and we encountered a corridor
of death because they did the heroic thing of pulling the boss all the way to the edge
between the two puddles and then trying to run along toward the final segment.
But that was too narrow because Swirlies came down and killed everybody.
Yeah, it's a lot more narrow on mythics.
So there's a very little amount of room for play as they got obliterated by the
many Swirlies that came in at that point.
Corridor of death being a very accurate term.
I think I stole that from Alex.
We did, but we won't say that.
He's not here, so you can't.
Well, Alex, he's actually here.
Oh, no, he's here!
Spoilers, hello, it's me!
It's me!
You have been thieving from him a long enough.
Yes, no, there's been some spicy stuff going on.
It's been excellent for us to watch from the outside.
Do you want to see the Corridor of Death?
I do!
I do!
Let me see if I can get that working out for you.
I think this is it.
One moment, please, standby.
Your call is important to us.
OK, yeah, here it is.
So let me get to the correct area.
So if you are here on the Maxwell analysis desk with me, um, let me show you the corridor of death
So we're first going to be watching it from Revers's point of view. So this is already a little bit into
The this is where the last set of ads have spawned in
In the second segment exactly right at the end of phase two if we would like to call it that if you want to call this
Phase a few three days away. That's quite a neat way of doing it
So you got this last set of ads and things do start going wrong
This is on one of the longer pulls that we've had and one of the most successful ones
Unfortunately you can see in melee a lot of Swirly's taking out a couple of our players here
but
We want to be dragging the boss as far away from the
Last container as we can so as you can see here hold up if I just quickly get the pen up
You can see down here. There's this little this little crevice where they're gonna be sending everything up and
Swirly's plus tiny spaces is not a good idea as we continue on through you're gonna find out very shortly
It is it correct me if I'm wrong, but it's still shrinking right now. Yep
So you can see here it gets even tighter
It's hard to see with the boss in the way
But I'm just gonna kind of show you roughly how much space there is there
That's you've only got this little room here in the middle in order for you to be able to navigate and remember
We've got 13 melee players in here very fun
Although not of them all alive at this point the webs are gonna be put out
That's very very good from clicks using his head to get out of the group and then come back
But you can see this is where it goes a little bit wrong
A mixture of swirlies as well as spiders killing off the tank at hand exposure.
There you go, look at this, this is crazy!
I just want to go over that one more time.
Can you draw that safety quarter? That's about one cent.
Yeah, hold on, there we go.
So this is as good as it gets. If you look here, there's one AOE, there's the other.
And let me just quickly draw all of the AOEs in yellow as well.
So all of this area is bad for melee.
Also, just got a big sad face there as well.
This is completely out.
Basically, if you're a melee at this point,
I'm fortune.
So yes, a lot of people did unfortunately die here
as the boss such as to make the way over.
It makes a hell of a difference.
Look, they do.
So you can see what eventually what we're gonna have
is this entire space, going back to the blue pen here,
should occupy this whole area,
including all of this, right?
So we are using our very last moments in this phase
in order to just quickly get the boss as far away as we could.
If we wanted to be safe, so instead of sending the boss all the way down here
and making it go that way, you would have the boss over here
and have the boss go that way.
And that's a shorter distance,
and that's what they do at the beginning of phase two, you're entirely right,
but it's a much shorter distance,
so you've only got this distance overall rather than this whole distance,
but you know, it's a high-risk, high-reward-ish, like three seconds.
I wouldn't do it, but there we go.
It's what they do. It's pretty cool.
Gauntlet. Gauntlet of Goon.
I'm curious because that is our best pulse as far. We haven't been back there yet
I'm curious to see if they're going to do the corridor of doom once more
Because we should just be able to switch between pubs here as and how we like it along this corridor
Do not every single pop right now. I think I've got than a meres. We have a Kennex because Kennex is one of the
I haven't set up canyx just yet so I can get canyx ready for next time, but I think
You have got the three that I'm listed.
I will get more ready for you.
I was wondering about the range pop here,
because this is chaos in melee.
I bet the range is just in the middle of the room.
The range is just full chilling at this point.
So yes, I will get you.
We'll have a little bit more of a look up
at the corridor of doom in the future.
Right now, this is the pops that we're limited to.
You can just see how rough it is
as Meris has to pull back here.
But looking at the tanks health,
look how much of spikes.
Bam.
That's it.
And then of course the raid takes a debuff so you can see several bites all at once, those adds were just too far behind.
It wasn't the corridor that killed him. It was the spiders that were in it.
We had three spiders alive with a lot of stacks and that was just a little bit too long.
They wanted the spiders dead a little bit earlier, but that was their best pull ever.
Still is their best pull ever and presumably they learned from it if we get back to it again,
which hopefully we will very shortly, we'll see if they continue to invest in the corridor of Doom
slightly safer approach that will reduce their window of time to hit the boss of the mechanics.
We are going to be heading into another poll very soon.
Poll timer on the board, three seconds remaining.
Alright, let's hope if we can get back to the corridor of doom, which is the current
progress point.
It'd be interesting to see if they do alter the positioning there, because as we're
saying, you do get the extra uptime on the boss, right?
It's got a longer distance to cover before it reaches the canister.
at what cost. You are definitely going to have less DPS if they're dying due to the
swirlies. You always have the webs going out at that point as well, which is very scary,
a very limited play area. Well, let's see how this pool goes. They will have to make sure that
everybody has their healing absorbed removed while they break open the first set of eggs
in the encounter in the parasite area of the room. Let's see if they can break open
every single leg.
Yep, you got him.
So they are successful, all right, grouping up all those parasites, which will be fixating
on various raid members, making sure they are absolutely annihilating them, keeping
the worm cc'd, finishing off the spiders with a little bit of cleave.
That was so clean.
Very clean.
Yep, every single lad went down there with no problem, zero and fest, the final
worm killed before they even dragged the boss over for cleave.
This is ideal.
Na na na na na na na.
still over 15 seconds away from the second round of egg break so we're gonna get well in position
nice and tight before we even need to worry about positioning for this upcoming update. Oh my god
Jinji is frost! Hold on a second! How did I not see this before? I was waiting for this to happen.
I was thinking I'm not biased towards frost. Everyone is gonna say sure. I'm not. I was just
wondering if this fight would be excellent for frostmates. No! He was so excited about being
frost they missed the triangle egg but that means that you can keep talking about frost this pull is
a wipe yeah because frost is like a smidgen element of funnel as much as it had before but they have
so much cleave that doesn't necessarily take much away from their single target damage and they
also get a lot of priority target damage as well so i was wondering if we was going to see the
frost mage come out well after this pull we can go to Alex on the analyst that's going to
find out if the Frost Maid paid off compared to the Arcane Maid in previous pulls. Obviously,
we should give him some pulls to find out. But it'll be interesting to see if he's doing more
boss damage or less, more add damage or less. But very, very shortly that Black Goo is going to be
hitting the previously marked green egg. They're sending this for some practice here,
but they are about to wipe. As soon as that Goo hits that egg, you're going to see an enormous
raid hit hit. Everyone in the raid, they're going to get a very long, extraordinarily hard-hitting
debuff that will kill everyone. Yeah well it's really nice as well not to just keep
joining on about the frost mage but they will have additional slows, additional
routes so this will be really really helpful with controlling these
parasites as they speed towards their fixate target. Everybody dies! Gigi! I'm
lucky. Sorry I talked over with you about frost mage but I did want to you know
What's worse, healer talk or mage, aka frost mage talk?
You be the judge.
Okay, we could put up a poll.
That's a two option poll.
We were told by production we could do that.
I want to poll in chat.
Which is better?
No, which is worse.
Which is worse.
Healer talk or mage talk?
Yeah, this is one of those things.
It's like, would you rather and people just choose death?
Yeah, the worst things.
Yeah, would you rather?
No, I would not.
I would not rather.
This is one of those things that's like would you rather and people just choose
Yeah, the worst things. Yeah, would you rather? No, I would not. I would not rather.
Healer talk. I might talk like this. Let's not pretend that our egos are online here or anything.
Oh no! Stop voting Mages.
Keep it going!
No! What's happening here? No!
Healer talk is interesting.
No! Everyone's just jealous. We are the main character.
This is an overwhelming bias!
Killer talk is interesting.
You live or die by virtue of the healers having a good talk about when to use cooldowns, how
to assign them, how to save lives.
I feel very happy right now.
What is this?
This is what's called overwhelming defeat.
All right, well I'm just going to keep talking about mateys in that case.
I'm reading the poll as what people want.
No, chat thanks.
Chat is just no plus.
Chat is just no plus.
This isn't even close.
This is like...
You're like that one third party
whose only reason to exist
is to like throw the election.
You're not actually relevant in any way.
Not you personally.
I do that in my spare time.
That's fine.
Alright, well very good.
I will ramp up the healer talk as a result.
important to note that as we talked about several times throughout this evening of polls is that
they are still tinkering with comp. That is a significant change from arcane mage frost
mage. I'm curious how it will affect the overall course of the polls and the fight compensation.
So after this poll, I believe we'll have an analyst desk look and see if we can see anything
going on with his boss damage and add damage to see if they're benefiting from that frost
mage or if this will be one of those moments when you see the quick reversal.
Yeah, I do feel like you always have to get things in time, right? You need some
time to adjust to figure out where you feel comfy allocating pull downs is not
always just necessarily I'm gonna pop this here just kind of like where am I
gonna spend my procs I'm just gonna put them all into the boss and pass the
group leave or what's going to see it's pumping though
excuse me yeah I mean he's probably popping cooldowns on the pull unlike
everybody else doing the important stuff I mean boss damage is important it's
very important and I think frost made it to have very short cooldowns right
or very short yeah I think I see veins is now two minutes and they got
of icy propulsion so they don't have to yeah I mean every time it depends on what
talents is taken but it's green again green is cursed we missed the green egg
again and this happens every time you talk about major the green egg gets
missed yeah well nobody likes green eggs anyway and no green eggs and ham
Is it green eggs or is it blue eggs?
It's green eggs and ham.
Oh!
If we're talking about Dr. Schultz, yeah.
Green eggs and ham.
So, both times the green egg got missed.
You were talking about mage's at the exact same time.
And our chat voted against it as well.
Plus the 75% of chat that thinks mage talk is bad suggests to me that perhaps we should
go to Alex on the other side.
There does seem to be a correlation between mage talk and wiping.
I have a little bit of mage talk for you.
Give me some mage talk.
So having a little bit of a look I don't want to go too deep into the numbers
I'm not going to show them but rather just give you an indication of what
Yeah, exactly. It's not a whole lot but generally speaking Jinji is doing 5% of overall dam when he's been playing arcane
Just having a little bit of a loose look whereas on frost 5.8. Okay, that's a tiny bit of an increase
So we go
With all of the benefits that you were very much talking about in terms of being able to slow the ads in a bit more of a consistent manner
And have a little bit more control with bits and pieces
So, not a bad pick.
If you think of a 20-person raid,
any individual person in the raid is 5% of the raid
in terms of their representation of numbers.
Given that the DPS are a limited portion of the raid,
you being only 5% of the damage
is not a particularly good show.
I can't help but feel that you're being cruel.
I'm being a little bit cruel, yes.
He was representing somewhere in the average
between healer and DPS
on the scale of what he was putting up.
So going from 5 to 5.8, though,
is a very significant increase.
Yeah, well, and that's on the first pull.
And the thing is we need to get like a proper size pool.
I was comparing like a three minute pool
to a five minute pool.
The things are a little bit all over the place.
It's very, very difficult.
I would actually like to very briefly as well go over
what happened last pool, which caused the issue.
If we quickly go to the review tool here.
So as you can see from Meriz's point of view,
there is, there's these eggs on the screen.
Oh yeah, wait, hold on.
Hold on.
What do you mean?
So can you see, can you see these eggs?
Oh wow, yeah, you're right.
You gotta break them guys
To me to the other player who is marked with a triangle
Okay, I can't see the other time. Oh damn I don't want to say it
Oh, here we go. Here we go in haze egg break green or knock a grip. Let's find out where he is. Oh, there he is big time dead
Darko gonna miss that I could what did he die to that's a question I think I know says honestly
Think it's a swirly. I think it was a trilogy we can go back to the full screen if we want file discharge is what he died
To that is a swirly. So he got the debuff to break an egg
Then as he was headed to the egg stepped into a swirly and died and then they couldn't break the egg
That's actually good to know because I would rather that happened and simply failed to move where you're supposed to go in
first place but here we are in the first egg break of the first phase with every parasite successfully
killed we're working on two spiders and two worms this is very clean so far uh pull the
boss over to the worm finish cleaning it over very nice we're headed over to the second set of
eggs with 15 seconds left before we need to be there very nice yes very well executed this egg
pack proving a little bit of difficulty with the three sets of parasites in the past
but they are absolutely annihilating it in the most recent pulls, making sure that they're getting
those dispels off of those webbed layers as they're getting these second egg breaks now,
making sure that they are perfectly overlapping as well as to not hit each other for breaking the
eggs. All right, all of the parasites getting gripped there, making sure that they're getting
the interrupts out on the worms. What is the damage out of the parasites? They go down
very quickly nobody got infested before it gets touched by the poison it's gonna
mutate and get another several million health there it goes it's got it's got
some health unnecessarily it's still not dead a little bit of priority damage needed
over there okay all right so we use we let the range take care of that was a
little bit sloppy but it worked out okay we're now heading into a set of
swirly's followed by our third and final egg break of the phase this is two
Parasites and a couple of spiders and worms it is the easiest of these three in this phase
Let's see if they can get it done
We need one person far on the spider kris comes out out of melee range really unfortunate
But he has to get it done all of the parasites get gripped except two do not get gripped
They do get stunned on their fixate even though they're outside the range of the grips
So that's fine
But that means they're not getting all the cleave damage cast the fixate on soul gets the fixate off
We need to make sure okay interrupt it fix it on frago
He needs to kite a little bit pulls back. We did get it done that has delayed
However, our cleave on this final spider and worm and our boss health percentage as a result is significantly above what it was on
Our best phase one and phase two transition. We're looking for around 69% to match our best from before
Absolutely, it seems the frost mage did not have any longevity as we are back on our
The one pull wonder. Oh no.
We've pressed the button for frost.
We spent ten minutes in two wipes talking about swapping the frost.
Missing two eggs because of it and it didn't just swapped off.
I hate to see it, but we are heading into a very scary moment in the fight.
We have the second round of raid damage coming from the ingestion of that canister.
They have had some issues here, but they've moved some healing cooldowns and it should be fine.
We're going to see Rycen's hymn go out to cover the second absorbs,
and then they have the him buff up to deal with the final set of doors which are already off that was
Incredibly well done. Hopefully they didn't commit any resources they need later the egg egg breaking happening right now
I can't tell from this angle healer POV. What's going on over there in the fight?
There we go melee POV mini is a owing his heart out two big spiders being tanked by
Mirrors and now the thing to watch is how quickly can we kill them while maximizing damage on the boss?
So the mirrors doesn't die as we had the second set of eggs in this phase. Yeah
Just making sure the boss is tanked over the worms they can get that passive cleave
Keeping it interrupted making sure that they are also taking down the spiders as well as they will be ramping on damage
Oh, there is and they're coming in seconds. They need to be dead before they need to allocate a little bit more damage there
Many out of melee range as he gets his dispel now
We have egg breaks the health of the rate is a little bit frightening. We need to get these all broke. Oh, oh
Yes, that was the most important thing that was really well played well adapted as they will now be
annihilating the next load of parasites
Wow, they absolutely
Uliterated here just one more worm to tank spiders the spiders are empowered now
They will have 50% extra health.
Mirrors is health.
Please external him.
Oh my god.
Oh, they're doing so much damage as they
have the final egg set of, let's say, phase two,
the second room area.
This is a triple spider pull.
It is like the first one.
Very, very difficult.
We need to get Mirrors alive as we
head into the egg breaking.
Three big spiders coming out along with the ones
that are parasites and two worms.
They have to dispel these debuffs
without fixing their.
They missed the egg! Blue!
The ping is coming out!
There is so much overlapping here.
You had egg break into Swirlies, into the Dispel.
Yeah, it is a lot.
That was so much, with a very limited play area as well.
The quarter of Doom is becoming a thing already.
Yeah, but they do res, everybody is alive, and they continue to...
Well, unfortunately...
It is going to be a watch.
In the past five seconds, the egg is going to get hit and we're all going to die,
but maybe this will give us an indication as to whether or not they're going to do
quarter of doom or not because they're still practicing they can still learn right now how quickly
can we kill the spiders where they're okay so they are doing the quarter of doom let's watch this
oh hell yeah let's go all right so they have very very limited play area here they will have swirlies
to dodge ooh as you can see they were going out in that very narrow area that is very scary
because you don't want to be left behind either every time you go into the goo you not only
you take damage but you also take a healing absorb so you can't really afford to let it touch you.
Yeah, but they're forced to in order to get rid of the spells. We lost two people to the corridor of
doom. At this point it's going to be a wife as this final canister gets ingested and healing
absorbs get set out. There goes the bebuff from the egg being touched by the black goo that is a
guaranteed wife. This is what we were talking about a while ago. Even if you miss an egg,
if it happens late enough in the fight you can learn something new by keeping the
the pool going if happens early you can't this is technically their best pull they got
the furthest mechanically into the fight here we are watching the egg missed no so this is
when the mini went to break the other egg was perfectly on top of Jinji there so they were
standing perfectly on top of each other. Yeah but to be fair he's just on the wrong one
he was star yeah went to the wrong one and then realized it in the last half second
and saved the play. Look at his face.
Yeah, that was really fast reaction time.
See the mass barrier from Jinji
putting the arcane barrier on everyone.
Basically thinking there's four arcane mages.
You cannot stop the mage talk.
Thank you for saving the mage talk until after the life
this time, instead of causing it with the mage talk.
But technically...
That was well played for Minnie.
That was very well played by Minnie.
Well, here's the thing.
OK, I have a small bone to pick with you.
Well, he should have gotten to the right egg.
Exactly. People like watching flashy plays
because they think it shows fast reaction time,
but the correct play there wouldn't have been flashy at all.
He would have just gone to the right egg in the first place.
It's good that he realized and went there late,
but that's not something we should pat him on the back for
and say, oh, amazing player.
He realized late, he went late.
He recovered it, which is great,
but better play looks smooth, seamless, and error-free
and doesn't even look flashy at all.
That is a really good point as well,
because the person that he was directly standing on top of
actually played really well.
They didn't panic because anyone else in those shoes
would have seen that somebody was standing on top of them
maybe a panic maybe tried to adjust
but they had full faith because they needed to be standing there
they may not have had full faith
there's a chance they might have been yelling
yo mini get off me you're about to kill me you're on the wrong egg
we don't know that for sure
but worth noting that is our best mechanical pull
they didn't move and that's correct
that is our best mechanical pull we've seen further into the fight than we have seen thus far
we have seen that they are still committing to the quarter of doom thus far for our second quarter of doom
and we saw that it killed two people again because like you said, really correctly,
once you're in that position, you get the spells and there's nowhere to go to get those spells except into the goo,
which is very dangerous. The swirlies come out. There's no way to even see them and then if you do,
there's no way to dodge them except by going into the goo. Very, very dangerous.
So I still wonder if they're gonna stay committed to that.
Look at that bladestorm damage from the warriors!
But it's huge. You can really see it as the parasites are being obliterated.
Now every single pull it'd be interesting to see whether so they were previously obviously not dying as quickly and now they're dying
real quickly and
It'll be interesting to see if they are now over killing them if they have too many DPS allocations
Yeah, they may be sitting on the AoE cooldowns the parasites are dying pretty quickly and they're still within their AoE damage
Cooldown phase let's say and that's damage that's then wasted. This is the kind of thing that they're gonna have conversations about and I think they
might be doing right now something that Roger will have noticed on that last pull
is they had one pack that died too slow and was very scary for mirrors and then
the next pack died too fast it was too trivially easy for mirrors they want to
balance that out they want every pack to have the correct amount of cooldowns
allocated to it to make sure it dies in time but not too fast and we have some
information coming over from the analyst that's I feel really bad
new review tools being used to point at people a little bit. I'm only sharing this because it was
an important part of why we wiped obviously the egg not getting soaked and we lost Zatzi. So I was
like what's happened there? What's happened there is that Zatzi did what we all did when we
were playing evokers at one point and let me show you exactly what I mean. So for any evoker
healers out there you will know that one of your most important abilities is verdant embrace.
Now, yeah, I know where this is going.
Vernon Brace is a healing ability that when, of course, you just charge it to your target.
So this is Azsie's point of view.
He is going to be responsible for the blue egg.
Okay.
He's due to break this blue egg in a moment, so you're going to see the eggs, CDs coming
in now.
There we go.
So he's going to be going to the blue egg.
No.
Oh, can I see some?
No.
Oh, no.
No.
Oh.
Jumped into a bunch of swirlies.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, I can't break the egg out.
Yeah.
They are using they are using a glow weak aura on the tank whose volatile concoction is about to expire
Yep, they need to make sure that tank is top if the tank isn't top
It's gonna blow up on the raid for an inordinate amount of damage
So he saw canyx wasn't top and wanted to heal him use the healing button forgot that it had a move
Abilities is tied with that
That is rough with how much movement is on this by as you just saw right one thing you can do of course
always just apply echo to the target and then jump to yourself and then in theory it's like a
spot hill but it's not as strong it's better to play echo to the target and then jump to them
just a rough situation it happens that's what happens when you've been playing today as well
very careful we don't want any flame such as that see this is a very difficult fight every
single player in the raid has messed up and will continue to mess up of course because it's
a very difficult fight it is good to be able to analyze and find and those exact moments
And that's what this review tool has been used for in the past.
That's exactly its purpose.
This is just the first time that we're using it to show it to the viewers.
Yes, so yeah, I'm not doing it to...
Because as someone who's played Preservation,
let alone in such a high risk situation,
I have many times, in Mithit Plus, decided,
you know, maybe it'll be a good idea to charge it to someone
and you just instantly die.
As I say, I think it's a very relatable thing to anyone who has played Preservation.
That's why I kind of want to show it, that we're not all immune.
You know, we all make mistakes,
but especially when you're in such a high stress situation where you've got to spot heal the tank,
you've got to be dealing with mechanics at the same time, it can be quite easy to forget that sometimes you might be charging around with the ability.
Yeah, absolutely, because it could have been a wipe anyway, if Mera didn't receive the heal then it would have been exploded with an extortionate amount of damage across the raid, so it may have been a wipe either way.
Could be, could be, and it did still turn out to be their best pull ever, because though they did miss an egg and that was inevitably going to result in their eventual demise,
they had time before the goo reached the egg to finish that second section successfully.
Now granted, finishing it successfully was made easier by the fact that they didn't have one
extra gigantic spider on mirrors. They did struggle to kill those spiders in time for
mirrors to pull back and then have the boss charge across, but they were able to do some
more learning, which is the important thing. They practiced the corridor of doom, they got
another look at it, see if they like it. They also got all the way and practiced their
movement, which is an important part of this. The boss goes charging across to the
final section, that final phase 3, and a big part of their DPS is making sure that they maintain
uptime, get there quickly, settle into place, start DPSing, and start healing because you
get another 3 waves of healing source doing increasing damage. So a lot of good practice
occurred on that pull, and I'm not surprised in the least, don't worry anyone, we're not
missing anything by going to the analyst desk, that they had lots to talk about. They need to
fix the allocation of DPS in that second phase and start talking about phase 3 and exactly
how they want to handle it. Yeah that final phase empowering those worms so that's gonna be a little
bit interesting to see how that plays out on the thick. I wonder who Mir is doing. He's putting his
abilities on his bar where 44 pulls in and maybe he might need to press some buttons now. I suspect
that maybe he changed his talent and is adjusting things a little bit. That's what I suspect.
If you could be right, it could be that he just wasn't bothering.
Grim Mastermark is very good.
Yeah, and he is an absolutely amazing player as well.
Nah, I think all of his MDI wins are pure luck.
Alright, we're going to go to a replay here so we can take a look at this second iteration
of the corridor of death. You see the spiders still alive, still chunking on mirrors
as the boss gets pulled all the way back by Nice Means, one of our tanks on the boss.
Kenix and nice to meet you, thank you boss. He goes running through this very narrow corridor.
The Swirlies come out to death nice flea with AMS. Perfecto's AMS was just a little bit too late
and he goes down. As did someone else, I believe. And also the boss model is kind of perfectly
covering up that tiny amount of play areas. You can't always see the Swirlies as well.
Yeah, you can't see them. It's very dangerous. A lot of those, of course, having four
Decades there means that you can conceivably AMS and run through the goo. I wonder if they're gonna put Warlock gate at that point
I wouldn't be surprised that they did they do use a warlock gate to traverse from fades one
Yeah, they could use another minute cool down on the warlock gate. It might be up by that point
I think it is but up by then. I do think it is up by then the bigger concern is
Will it be in a swirly right and will you land in a swirly because you're traversing at the same time as those
swirly. Can you still get hit by the swirly if you're travelling through the Warlock portal?
Not while you're travelling. No. But if it's there when you land, certainly can.
Oh, do you just know there's going to be a pull where everybody takes the Warlock gate?
Lands and dies. Lands and the swirly and dies. Well, the thing is, is that Warlock gate would
be committed, I guess, exclusively to melee. No one else could use it, because I don't think
anyone else is going to run up the corridor of Doom. I think the Warlocks and Hunters are
staying well back up there. Talking about the corridor of Doom real briefly, because this
is the same pool that I've, you know, I showed the Zartzi clip from. It's actually
the thing that really wiped them because then we lost four players to vile discharge. That's not
what a healer will be able to get you through. That's what the corridor of Doom took out. Not
only a tank, but two of our frosty caves as well as an enhancement charm. And so that times all
around. That's two for two corridor of Doom, getting a lot of players. It's a painful position
and I wonder, I mean DPS on this boss is obviously very important. We're off the amount
of damage we would need to to be on pace to kill it before she ends the fight with her soft and
then harden rage. So doing that does increase your dps window right it forces her to travel for a
longer time giving you several seconds of extra dps but it seems so incredibly dangerous I wonder
if they will continue to do so but it looks like the discussions are over we are seeing
balls sent out by the evoker to apply echo and uh pole timer going out. Yeah absolutely. Let's
Let's have a look if anything has changed, maybe.
Yeah, can we maybe flip through a bunch of POVs relatively quickly?
Just want to take a look at everyone's specs.
Nothing looking out of the ordinary yet.
Oh, did you steal our McCain?
Yeah, that's good to know.
But don't talk about it anymore, or they
will miss the green egg again.
All right, so we have the healing absorbs going out.
This is all phase one.
Stuff, no big deal.
We ideally don't have any wipes here,
except the green eggs.
Dodging the sorrelies, putting down the MS,
surviving three rounds of healing absorbs and healing damage as everyone's absorb is
off soon. It's still not off. We have egg debuffs going out. So something may have gone slightly
wrong there, but everyone's healthy enough. All of the eggs broken. Yes, all of parasite
script except one stuck out there and it did get the fixate off on Fraggo. It's running
toward Fraggo right now. We need to stop on it. It gets pinged. Unfortunately, Robin
picks up two infests taking a lot of damage from that needs some single target single target healing
and then we're gonna have four parasites after all of our cds for cc and killing them have expired
so there goes an ursul's vortex to try to slow them down as we head over to the second set of
eggs we need to get those under control probably the responsibility of the range oh a little grip
another infest on uh one of our warriors uh wolf disco picks up another infest this one
Well, probably just get stopped. There's a shockwave. What they're going to do here is break these eggs and then try to take care of these parasites at the same time as the upcoming round.
Yeah, that's such a little amount of play area. They unfortunately did not break out one egg set. Green again.
Green eggs are the bane of our existence. Damn you, Dr. Sears.
Green eggs and no ham.
Melham so yeah, I mean obviously that lingering set of four parasites both that all came from Robin getting infested by a double
Caused a lot of lingering problems. We didn't get moved nearly as fast
We've seen so often on these pulls that getting moved a good 10 seconds before the incoming set of egg breaks
Really helps everyone get to the position this time. We got there barely in time people weren't in position
They were worried about the parasites
They were stunning them and stopping them and we just didn't get everyone nor they needed to go to break that green egg
understandably the fight is hectic enough when everything goes right if
something goes wrong it gets out of hand quickly so absolutely and do another
pull we will go and I don't think there's gonna be a huge amount to talk
about there no although it did seem like something was slightly changed as
the healing absorb wasn't fully taken off before we have the egg breaks my
people were dropping low at that point but they did manage to get through it
So it could be that they took something off of those first the first healing absorb. Yeah
That's a good point because something that's going to be happening in the background as Potter as the healing officer
External coordinator is going to be constantly tinkering with all of the cooldowns available
Despite to make sure that they're covering the dangerous overlaps in the dangerous and scary moments
They just saw the timing for the last round of healing absorb
So they want to make sure that they have sufficient healing resources allocated for everything one of those which is a juggling act of
Epic proportions because you only have three healers
And it can be difficult to get enough HPS out just with those three, but they're getting it done thus far
We're heading into another pole a ping goes out on Fraggo not sure why
Usually a ping in this guild is used to highlight errors
I remember when I was doing a split and I'd gotten knocked off the platform
I got several pings from that
And anytime an egg gets missed in these poles we get some pings flying out as well
Yeah, what else are they fool? Well, some people use pings not to be toxic
What?
Yeah, that's all right
All right, let's have a look at the healing absorbs here seems like yeah, no they are fully off of everyone
So yeah, all right round two round two
Lingering and round three goes up all round two is still up. We've we've moved something off of this round
Okay, still some healing absorbs while the egg breaking circles go out so pop a personal if you need to there goes the AMS
Exactly the correct play
we wanted to see there the parasites get gripped in and this time none of them are missed that is
what started the whole problem last time around maybe a parasite egg cluster not broken on star
there so you didn't see it we jump off team star this time yeah team green that's a double egg there's
two eggs there there's a parasite and a spider I believe and someone was just a little greedy
with their movement and didn't get it covered yeah unfortunately happens but the very high
intensity fight it is I mean it's it's a very hard fight but the first round of
eggs needs to be perfect you can't wipe on the first round of eggs because you
have to do several rounds of eggs throughout the entire fight and they all
have to perfect you're not going to kill the boss having errors this early is a
unfortunate thing to see we would hope that those get cleaned up
absolutely so I think they have definitely moved something off of the
start yeah the healing absorbs well fully off of everyone by the time they
go into the first egg flask. According to his weak order anyway. I think he's got one.
Yeah, I think his weak order might be out of date. Yeah, perhaps. Pandidisco, by the way,
is a fantastic name. Very sweet. Alright, I'm glad to see we're not spending a long time
discussing the wipe in phase one on the first set of eggs in phase one. We're moving right into
another pole as those temporal anomalies go flying out from our healer vokers applying those echoes.
Their role is to do a huge amount of AoE healing here and the way they do that is to apply echo to
as many people in the raid as they can, send out a dream breath and then engulf for massive
HPS. Yeah you usually see with echo that they do spend a large amount of time you know discussing
uh all the little intricacies throughout the pole so they take a it's not necessarily a break
but while they're discussing anything that could be changing, they are standing around,
but you can kind of clearly see that when there's nothing really to be discussed,
they do go straight into another pool, and then all of those discussions massively pay off when
they do go to pull again, as we have the first set of eggs now, making sure that they are all
broken, everybody getting into position, I think we did have all of the eggs broken.
broken. Yeah, we're good.
But we do have some parasites loose.
Three parasites did not get pulled in.
And yeah, we're jumping off.
All right.
I think we actually did miss one worm on green.
Oh, did we?
Yeah, it's hard to see.
We're on the other side of the boss.
But yeah, green.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, one of the worms didn't get broken out.
So that was green.
Green eggs.
Green eggs and echo.
Just don't work out.
Oh, absolutely not.
Shadowed Uniframes reloading some UI tinkering here on pull 46 from echo as we continue working on the brood twister
We've gotten the best
percent down to 40.9 percent just a couple of pulls ago
So it's not the case that we're exhausted and unable to pull well
We had a really really good pull just two or three pulls ago
Just need to get focused up and can try to get back there again
Yeah, however, it is worth noting that they've been doing a really good job
including this week with mythic bosses available, continuing to go to bed on time, not pushing the
bedtime so far back that it makes achieving the 5am reset, unrealistic and unreliable. So
we may see them go to bed at 9.30 or 10 again tonight, which means we would be nearing the end
of a raid night. If this isn't the case of a boss where you're almost killing it and you
really want to kill it before you go to bed, right? We're still 40% off, that's a lot,
no reason to ruin your sleep schedule over it. Yeah, for some fights it's not necessarily,
Let's say the HP isn't always a representative of how much of the fight is left remaining.
Because even though it says 40%, they've still got a lot to figure out in that final area of the room.
They haven't seen it very much. They need to make sure that their cooldowns are perfectly aligning.
As they have organized it in the first and second areas, they also need to give that big practice
to that final area of the room as well. So it wouldn't even say that 60% of the fight is done at this point.
Yeah. In fact, they're a little bit behind on boss damage. And you're absolutely right.
They've been to the third area twice, but they've never made it to the first egg break in the third area
So they have a lot of work there to do every single combination of eggs is different
That third area is full of the empowered mutated worms
Which will be the first time they're dealing with that plus the mutated parasites and the mutated spiders all at the same time
It is by far the hardest phase of the fight. Oh, okay
We had all of the eggs broken all of the parasites gripped in really nicely
Make sure they're CC'd for them to be absolutely taken down as they are finishing off these
spiders and keeping the worms interrupted and also taking them down as well.
That is very clean.
I think we have one fixate, one infest, but we've seen them deal with the two relatively
okay.
There's a binding shot, good job by Sol.
Binding shot goes down, keeping them rooted for a little while.
This is going to be distracting though.
We're not in position for the next set of eggs.
These both get killed in the next two or three seconds without an infest. Okay. We're okay
We're a little bit behind, but we're okay
We're in position and the new debuffs are coming out now to break the eggs ideally we get this taken care of everyone lined up
Overlapping breaking them all that was a great POV
We got to see them all every single parasite also gets yoinked in to the stun CC and meet grinder of melee DPS
Absolutely
Cleaving everything down. Yeah
Yeah, look at the Inigo as well, I get absolutely obliterated as they finish off the three packs
of parasites, I don't think anybody, or Frago dropping really low, they are finishing off
the final tanks fighters and the worm moving on over to the third and final set of eggs
in this area.
Yep, very, very well done so far, we're moving over in very good time, about five
seconds left until the egg break and we're basically in position ready to go, some of
red lagging a little bit behind if they get sent to the circle egg so need to be on top of that.
Here come the debuffs, people moving into position, everyone overlapping. It looks good to me.
Yeah I think they did successfully break out all of those eggs. Oh gosh!
Oh wow! Drop in Sibylopops, cheat death there. That's okay, that's what it's for and Robin's
a little low but he's the only one we should get a tree out of him shortly.
We only have a spider and worm left. The parasites were handled, no infest,
worm goes down spider has 20 million left as well the boss at 73 percent we're going to pull the
boss over into the corner furthest away as we can from phase two's canister without risking a go to
phase three to early still alive everything good everything clean the boss health a little bit higher
than our best which was 69 percent moving over into phase two as we're going into phase two
we need to be ready for the difficult healing coming as three rounds of healing absorbs will
drop. Yeah, so we need to make sure that they are getting those off of the players as they then move
forward to the first ad break. Oh my goodness. Spider area didn't happen. Someone, someone may have
got clipped by a swirly, but it's a shaman. It's just personal. Yeah, I mean, it's the strongest
defense in the game. Just getting the optimal use out of that. We have the first set of
egg breaks going out in the spider area. Oh, some last one. I'm trying to go over,
making sure that they are Venn diagramming their brakes. I think they got every single one there so
we have the three colossal spiders. The Pax of Parasites. If you lose Zoho, oh we lose Wall Life
as well. We have one more Battle Res. Mira's health flow all right. Battle Res committed.
Now we need the spiders to be killed for Mira. Is there 48% he's taking increased stacks of a
poison that diminishes your ability to top him or heal him so his life is a struggle to maintain
right now as we head over into the second round of eggs he's marking while
tanking oh his health we are now getting the we're getting debuffs into
swirlies oh a root goes off against the spells at the wrong moment and people
get rooted freedom moving him remove it to die okay get these eggs broken the
overlapses a little bit haptic oh they they did it they did it victory all
right okay health is low but we're in danger trying to get the parasites
It's grouped up and killed.
Oh no, a kick got missed.
Well, that is going to be a significant amount of damage
onto the raid.
Unfortunately, it did take Revvers down,
as they will be trying to take out.
Did they get any fixed states?
I don't think they got any fixed states in that chaos,
but they do have the two tank spiders, one worm up,
making sure that they are interrupting.
They do have one battle res available.
Four clicks, they could get him up potentially,
as they're moving over.
Can't expound.
We're down a tank.
Well, that will probably be where the battle res is going.
Oh my goodness, that was a huge hit from the volatile going off because we're single tanking now and he was not topped tank down click
Shaman down ruined the third and final set of egg breaks of phase two
Hopefully we get all of this because this will still be good practice
Leaping out with wall up to get the dispel very well done
Unfortunately, we're about to take a fairly large hit from the tank hit exploding rice and goes down
It's falling apart here. They did get all the eggs broken
So that's good practice and they're getting all the parasites killed. So that's lost here as well
They're trying to recover so they can see the quarter of doom again and it worked only thing alive are three spiders pummeling into mirrors as mirrors and nice memes
Desperately try to tank three spiders that are mutated poisoning them and dealing with all talk and caution at once
With one healer down these
We've got a root. We need a freedom. There's the freedom. Good job banner perfecto dies here almost all life does go down
We're in the quarter of doom. So we're practicing that oh
Yeah, you just can't you just can't that was the volatile concoction if you have that many stacks of the poison
You cannot be top the volatile concoction hits for huge amounts of the tank is it half health like that
Whoa, what an intense?
Final minute or two after we started seeing things go downhill and we lost our tank canyx
I would love to know if you were able to see Alex what happened to canyx there because that was the beginning of the end
I wouldn't find it for you. Thank you, sir
They managed, they recovered, and kind of kept going for quite a while, I mean, inevitably,
yeah, and inevitably it was going to be a while, but it was very nice to see their recovery.
Yes, your call of bloodlust was exactly in point because they popped that as an emergency,
so it was a great thing to do. Stabilize. Stabilize, healers get a huge HPS buff from
bloodlust, and that's multiplied by killing the adds faster, stopping your damage taken.
So that was a great call by you because that enabled them to see that portion of the fight
again, which is very valuable. It's only the third time they've been there. So gaining
some more information and some more practice, still committing to the corridor of doom.
I wonder if that's going to be, I mean, they're going to make it work.
I think they need to. It's such a big damage game.
Exactly. And where they're committing so much damage to the ads, they've got so much
AOE, they may not necessarily have a lot of the good ads. It's kind of a sign
to the boss.
Look at all of these add-ons going offline. I wonder if they're having some frame rate difficulty.
They could be. Because he's just turning everything off. Wow this is what true wow gaming should be. Disable the roll.
Good lord it's too many. Delete them all. Okay surely not weak course. I need the word quest.
Wait hold on. See what a UI looks like once everything's been stripped off.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of those add-ons were the ones outside of Raid, the, uh...
Yeah, that's true.
World Questlist, for example, is necessary right now.
Yeah, we're not simming.
That's a very important add-on that we will definitely need, but...
Yeah, definitely.
You know, I've never downloaded that add-on, ever.
But yours?
I don't know if it works very well for healers.
It doesn't work for healers.
Yeah, so you don't need to zoom.
I actually I use the the website version of it once when I tried because no one had done it
I tried to build a DPS in for Holly Paladin's doing pure DPS or the Sylvanas fight. Oh
It seems like Alex has something to show us. What do you have Alex? Yeah, I can see why he died
Um, this is very fair of course mechanics at that point is not supposed to be tanking spiders, right? Right?
Our boy was tanking some spiders
To the review tool that I've got up actually going into a poll we can talk about later
But basically to LDR he was tanking spiders that you shouldn't have been tanking fair enough
Yeah, the mutated spiders put up a poison that reduced your healing taken very very dangerous for the tank tanking the boss also very dangerous for the
Raid because it means he can't be topped with volatile concoction, which therefore blows up for more damage
Yeah, fortunately didn't have that deep up at the time. Otherwise, I would have led to an entire group. I think it just was doing
Slam damn didn't you just rip from eras like yeah, it just is what it is conceivable
One of the things that we haven't talked about because it hasn't happened in a while
It's how important it is to hold your DPS for at least half a second when big ads spawn because we've seen melee get
Hummled by starting their bladestorm too soon after the spiders appear, but that explains what happened there
The canyx dying did cause the beginning of the end. We're heading into another pool here
Lots of practice necessary on this boss, which is turned out to be very difficult. We all zero
He's getting a battle reds though. Yeah, it does seem like the three pulses of the healing absorb got healed up very quickly
They may have put something back on this first healing absorb that they briefly took off for a few pulls
They were clearly trying something
But it got healed up very quickly this pull. So I think they may have
Allocated it there were just put down to a swirly
He did die very quickly
That's the only thing it could have been that early. Yeah, especially as a warlock. They're fairly sturdy
So swirly they're one shot. They're a lot of them. They're hard to dodge
that's going to happen every now and then.
Especially with how much is happening, right?
You're kind of adjusting, trying to get into your position with the egg break.
You're also not trying to misposition.
You have the web dispels going out.
And then once the ads are out, you have the interops be dealing with
CC to be putting out to make sure the parasites aren't
reaching any of their fixed date targets.
It's just so chaotic.
And it's very easily easy to misstep.
And then that misstep can then make you take your eye off of
Maybe interrupt if you're trying to interrupt a worm. So it's so much focus, but yes
All right, well, we're waiting for the next pull. I think Alex has something just gonna agree of you in terms of though
It's there if it wasn't just one Swerly. This is a wall that we're talking about it was three
In a row
Wait two seconds
That's three overlap Swerly's my goodness. No, no, no, don't eat Swerly tried to
Finish a cast or something. I imagine so yeah trying to min-max that damage which they have to do
Oh, this boss won't die without min-max damage, but of course it also won't die if you die first
The Warcraft Tints tell us that you know you want to reduce the bosses health to zero before your own
Very important. Yeah, very good tip there. Mini Smiling good to see them in good spirits as they head into this pool
They have a lot of pulls on this boss
Which has turned out to be the first significant wall of the instance
Every other boss before this one dying in one pull for liquid two pulls for one boss on Echo
This pull and the Princess Kaiveza turning into very significant walls very funny
This boss as hard as it is every guild that has encountered these two you can go to either of them has agreed
It's easier than Kaiveza Kaiveza has an inordinate amount of health. She has seven billion
She has seven point seven seven seven seven billion held the rat
It's the rats fault the interesting thing about that is is that I went and did a little bit of math
It would take about 19 million raid DPS to kill her which is fine if you take into account that sick ran another
Similarly single target boss was killed with 16 million raid DPS
Only three million raid DPS itself now to be fair they had several deaths on sick ran
They could have potentially optimized damage of course several pulls but regardless a
Lot of help that is gonna be very difficult to deal with and even ignoring the enrage
She has other mechanics that just hurt really really bad
It's telling and testifying to the fact that they consider this boss easier and this boss is clearly turning into a very significant wall on its own
That was a really nice the execute they could see both walk this go right leaping out charging back to the boss and having that to spell
It's a perfect time so you can get as much of time as possible
So it's really nice how the min maxing these movements as we have the three packs of parasites
getting obliterated by the frosty gaze and the warriors as well. Look at that
overall damage warriors one two three it's a good time to be a warrior of course
they brought in that third warrior after the dinner break replacing one of
their henchmen's and I think it's turned into a good trade because they
have had some very stable dealing with adds we did get a mutated worm there
but it goes down that's happened a couple of times not ideal but not a
huge problem five seconds egg breaks and we are in position we've seen
several times it's important to be in position before the debuffs come out
otherwise it's a scramble to get there in time. Here come the debuffs we need
orange to move the furthest. Frago's got a little ways to run but he gets there in
time. Wolf jumps out to get dispelled back in he goes. A couple of healing
absorbs out and the raid tells a little bit frightening as they pull all of the
adds underneath the boss start cleaving them down. So far this pulls
going very well. There's the last parasite. Only a worm and a spider
left to go the spider is good the worm is down spider's last one left as we head
into our positioning for phase two yeah they're gonna be pulling the boss over to
the side so they get as much uptime on the bosses it's running to the next
canister as possible as it will happen when the boss reaches 100 energy so we
will be waiting for that the other next now about to charge in one second as
as they will be following the boss.
Our best pull is 69, this is 71.
Yeah, a little bit higher than the two other pulls, as they've been dodging.
Not important. We're not going for a kill yet.
No, absolutely not.
Oh, Ryzen goes down, we see that Spirit of Redemption coming out.
I think he got hit by a Swirlie.
That's not awful.
He'll be able to be resed, and he can do full healing in the Spirit of Redemption,
which is very important because they're getting three rounds of healing absorbs here.
Now that debuffs come out while the healing absorbs are still up,
So everyone breaking an egg is an extreme danger and needs to personal.
We see some very low health on a couple of warriors who are breaking eggs.
They do get the infest pulled in.
They're awing them down.
Zero's health is extraordinarily low.
He does in fact go down with that debuff.
Ryzen had to get res.
That was a scary moment.
We also lost Narco Grip.
So two dead, unfortunately now.
We had to res Ryzen instead.
So we're going to be on the back foot as we head into the second set of eggs.
Also, Mira is dealing with three colossal spiders, all mutated all at the same time,
and we're still not done with them as we're going into new egg breaks in just five seconds.
This is getting very scary now.
It's usually around this time that Mira starts to drop super low,
as they will make sure that they get in those dispels out,
not clipping any of the other players, but you often actually lose clicks as well.
Let's go down. It's going to spiral now.
Breaking out those eggs making sure that the parasites are grouped up nicely as we get the knockbacks going in
Oh, this is interesting. Aoi stunts. I don't know if you notice
This is gonna be wiped so I am gonna end up just to say that with mirrors having turned off his add-ons including plater
He no longer has name plates for his ads. He's just looking at their names
Which may be good because it does clear up the visual field a little bit instead of seeing a hundred little ad name plates
But may also be an unintended consequence of him trying to raise his frame rate
Yeah, this is very interesting actually because there is so much going on in this fight
And if you have all of those big rectangular
Nameplate boxes covering the screen it can restrict your view and maybe mess with this world is there really else
That's being kicked out with the boss. It could be not only are they trying to progress in terms of their damage allocation
healing allocation
Utility allocation it could just be that they're also trying to learn
And what they shouldn't shouldn't have is it better without name plays because it is a do is it easier with name plays without name plays?
These are all really important to have a look at as well
It used to be the case that there were some fights or some moments in dungeons or raids where even as a healer
I would occasionally turn off my entire UI just to see better
And also sometimes turn name plates on or off in order to see better particularly friendly name prayed
Friendly name plates which are sometimes useful and sometimes just cluttery. So
He's going to do some tinkering here
I think he turned off more than he wanted to some echo add-ons being re-enabled
Potentially also name plates coming back echo internal coming back on so it looks like some add-on tinkering from mirrors as he tries to fix some problems
He's been having with his FPS. It's a FPS intensive fight a lot of people other people have been complaining about it because of so many
Spell effects and ads
I've seen a lot of people struggling on fights like ration and for example getting really low FPS
drops in that fight. I did a lovely normal raid and unfortunately a lot of people in the
normal raid were really struggling with the rest of the FPS in that fight as well as Queen
Ansarak as well. So there are a few fights, people are also battling FPS graphics as well.
Canucks on a quick little break. Yeah, I see him running back to his chair right now.
So I think a couple of players there, Canucks and Perfecto, took a quick little break
which is of course fine. You've got to pee, you've got to pee. In the meantime,
We're going to be waiting for them to pull for a little bit.
Mirius is in fact turning big wigs back on.
We're going to have timers.
Yeah, that might be important.
I think the Alex at the Analyst desk has a little bit of information for us.
It's death corridor v3.
I love it.
If you want more death corridor info.
Nothing I like better than the corridor of doom.
The corridor of doom, yes.
You can start to see a little bit of a strategy taking shape in the corridor of doom right now.
I think, yes.
So if we can jump over to my pod, we should be able to see.
There we go.
So this is after everything already went wrong in our very best pool. Well our most recent pool we've got quite difficult.
Canex was already dead, Heela Ryzen was already down, Clix is down, and we're about to get a tank buster that annihilates everybody.
Which is very sad, but you can see one very cool part as you've got the boss move timer here.
Do you want to point out one thing? There is a ping here onto the wall at Gateway,
and you can see that the majority of the melee that are currently alive for the next few frames are on this side here.
side here. They're baiting away from the wall or gateway making it so it's going to be nice
and free to use. Unfortunately if you let this play out, bam they all die. You can see where
the swirlies are. They generally do work. The swirlies are the majority of them. It's hard to
see kind of but they're all more around here with the wall or gateway being largely left free.
If you see it from Zerwa's point of view at this point who did unfortunately...
Did he cast it there?
Yeah so he's now placing down this wall or gateway. I've just jumped back a little
a little bit and move from a
different point of view right
now. So we're watching from
Zerway's point of view here, but
you can see they're going to be
dragging the boss deeper down at
the corridor of doom while the
wall of gateway does get set up
and thrown towards them. There
you go. You can see it set up
now. So the idea is just from
this point, it might be a little
bit easier to see that all of
the DPS that are over by the
boss in this instead of having
to travel down this very narrow
sort of corridor here, which
is going to be completely
coated in crap. You just take
the gateway, jump over the
really good. I was thinking that they would put a warlock gate there. One thing I wouldn't
recommend though is having all the range. That does explain why they popped bloodlust, right?
They had clearly made this strategy and they wanted to test it. So they popped bloodlust
to stabilize the raid, move on to that portion of the pole, see if it would have worked.
They almost got there, but with the tank down it meant that they took a tank debuff
to the phase and killed everyone, but it looks like in theory it would work, and they clearly
set up the practice for it. I really like the melee baiting away. We would also need
the range to bait away, although there's a little bit of a range difficulty. If that
corridor is so long and so narrow that you can only reach the boss by being near the
gateway, it may turn out to be the case that you inevitably bait some puddles on
that ending terminal. We'll have to see. They clearly want to get back there and
try the strategy. It's good to see, though, that they aren't mindlessly running into
quarter of doom over and over and over again. They're recognizing it's danger and trying to fix the
problem. The gauntlet of goo. That was great. I mean it started off as the quarter of death and then
the quarter of doom now is the gauntlet of goo. It's soon going to be a Paris and Ford movie. Oh
unfortunately two of the parasites came. Sorry. Sorry I was very very well placed there.
two of those parasites were kind of just sitting there on the outside so it didn't get stacked
in. It didn't matter though they got taken down very quickly as they finish off the final
worm. I don't believe anybody has no infest and we have 10 seconds until egg break so we're
in really good shape going into round two. Yep they'll have the webs incoming making
sure that they're getting out of the group. You could see Wolf positioning himself slightly
ready to jump out if he had it. It was a very nice little movement there as the
second egg breaks going out.
Oh, look how scary it is.
It's so terrifying.
It is terrifying.
You're dodging so many puddles.
You're dodging everyone that's breaking the eggs.
You're trying to find a safe micrometer to stand on.
But we do get all of the parasites
yanked into the middle.
All eggs broken as well.
They've got this down really, really well.
All parasites dead, no one.
Oh, one infest on perfecto, unfortunate.
So they're going to have two more to deal with
while they also finish off these final spiders
and this last worm.
Those two ideally dying before we head over
around three. Yeah we did unfortunately lose Mini but we got the res out so he is
back and these parasites will need to be finished off before they reach them. Oh they're running fast.
Target. Yeah you don't want to take too much. Look at soul pumping on them that's kind of his job to do.
Yeah so they do finish them off. We've got the next egg break now. Yes. Define a leg break
of this area. A little slow getting here which has sometimes caused difficulty dealing with this
overlap. It's a very scary overlap. Revis is getting dazed, which means he got melee combined.
Frago's health is very low. Revis's health is very, very low. Can we swap over to Mere's POV?
We do get all of them dead. Good. The worm is extremely low. We fixed that problem. Several
pulls ago, there was a problem with this worm lasting for a while. That's clearly been fixed.
Someone's put some prior damage onto it. One spider left alive. Boss at 72% as we move into
positioning for phase two. So we're in pretty good shape. Despite one death,
We do have a battle res already returned and we're in good shape going into phase 2
Yeah, absolutely as they will be moving the boss over to the very very corner very good positioning. Oh, yes
We are on 70% boss. We are going to see 69 percent again 69 9 excellent love to see it
That's matching our best ever heading into this phase
Now we need to dodge swirlies and do a lot of healing three rounds of healing absorbs coming out
So Rycen carrying a lot of this with a hymn on round two right between the swirly's a difficult task to perform
But he's getting it done excellently now that hymn buff is available as well increasing everyone's healing taken
So they get top before this round of egg breaks go out
Make sure we get all of them
It seems like yes successfully break all of them
They have one parasite in the back, but it does get brought into the middle
So we can get CC'd along with the others.
They do have three colossal spiders.
They will need to take down all of the parasites going down
with no fixates I don't believe having gone through.
As they're moving over to the next portion of the room,
finishing off the worm, finishing off the spiders.
Those spiders going down a lot faster than previous pools.
So that is really nice to see.
We did lose perfecto, unfortunately.
I think to a swirly, we are now
in the second set of eggs.
completely eradicated all the spiders without mirrors being insufficient too much danger and that's
good to see but we are now missing one of our main damage sources in fact still our top damage
despite being dead for a little while perfecto dead for this round of egg breaking we missed an egg
green I think yeah green egg left remaining that was supposed to be yep there goes the ping
unfortunately one of the overlaps just did not make it on there oh no did they just ping Genji
Oh, the call-out! That's so tough. So this is going to be a wipe, but I think they're
going to keep it going because this is worth practicing. We have Wall Life go down after
they did Res Perfecto. One more Battle Res available. It is inevitably going to be a
wipe. There goes the debuff on everybody, and it is over.
Production having a little fun there, as this is unfortunately a wipe.
Yeah. We missed the nag there.
there is a very well there's no room for mistakes really every mistake having
such a significant knock-on effect and missing an egg causing an eventual
guaranteed wipe there's no recovery from missing an egg this type this fight is
tuned in the sense of requiring every single leg to be broken out exactly the
correct time is very exciting I was very very unforgiving these two fights
would kind of go down with relatively no pushback but it seems like the
Tuning is so well done on this fight that everything is dangerous. You have to absolutely respect the mechanics
You have to really allocate and organize all of your cooldowns for the well
The obscure amount of damage profiles are required for this fight. Is a can you check for me on the gear?
Source on the work I've logs the details. Can you see I think she's running the concoction?
Oh, let me have a look. That's a trinket from Delves that gives you a buff
increasing your secondaries by
All secondaries increased by a small amount for 30 seconds, but at the end of that 30 seconds
You have to push the drink it again to the spell the debuff otherwise you get stunned
I know which one you're talking about
Yeah
I'm not suggesting the debuff went off-stunned and prevented him from...
I'm gonna check!
I'm not even gonna entertain the possibility!
I will entertain such a possibility, that's why I doubt it.
Yeah, I mean, you know with everything going on in this fight let's add more. That's just a showcase of how easy range is, right?
Well, the thing is about that trinket is it's a pretty good trinket. It gives you a large amount of secondaries for a very very long time.
30 seconds of every single secondary increased, but if you don't push the button again before that 30 seconds expires, you get stunned for five seconds.
Obviously, you need to have a weak aura that warns you that it's about to expire. I have mine going ding ding ding, or I can't miss it.
So you push the button again and avoid that sun because before I got the week or I'll admit shamelessly
I got stunned every single time I used it. I completely forgot
Yeah, it's a it's one buff in a long list of buffs you forget you pushed it 30 seconds ago, and he gets stunned
Yeah, I'm not saying that happened to Gigi. No, there's no way it's
Inconceivable as the analyst desk starts looking into it
We're breaking our first round of eggs here. It looks like we got them all we get the parasites pulled in just fine
They're getting cli- Fraggo! Please!
Okay. He lives. That was so close.
Now we pull the boss slightly over under the worm to cleave it down while the range take care of the far worm.
This is looking pretty clean so far on the first set of eggs done in phase one.
Yep. All of those adds going down very nicely.
I want to defend Jinji. He didn't even have the debuff to break the eggs. Everyone pinging him.
Everyone pinging for nothing! Nothing! The guy's just blasting!
He's getting flamed for no reason!
For no reason at all. I'm here as a...
Justice! Justice for Jinji!
I will find out who it was who missed it.
We'll play it on the next step, though.
I think production muted you.
Very wise.
Round two egg breaking here.
We missed one.
Oh, no.
Star got missed.
Yes.
We haven't seen that happen to this egg cluster.
Let's ping Genji.
Not since last pull.
No, but this particular egg cluster.
You're right.
That cluster of parasites.
Parasites, but it can happen it can happen to any of them right can and there's there's like this
Interrent tension right as a caster you don't want to flame your team. It's a very difficult fight
It's very easy to mess up
You have eight people get debuffs that they have to resolve within six seconds on four different locations. However
That is the thematic mechanic of the fight that you have to be able to execute throughout the entire course of a very long fight
And if you mess it up this consistently if you don't if you don't succeed consistently
it's going to hamper your progress as we've seen a huge portion of their wipes are caused
exactly to that you would hope that with the week or they're using the spaceship UI the
marking of exactly where you're supposed to go popping up on your screen that they would have
resolved this by now 52 pulls in so I would like to see that fixed obviously I don't want to
suggest that it's easy right it's a very very hard yeah absolutely but for the sake of consistency
and potentially killing this boss that's going to need to get more consistent yeah we want
to be seeing further and further into the fight. We need that progress in that final
area of the room where the worms become empowered. Just to see how they're going to handle it,
when they're using cooldowns and get used to it in general, the interrupts are going
to be significantly more important. They already are. The cast going off is huge
damage across the race for Whitebird. They are going to be much more intense going
into that final area to be very on point with the interrupts as we are going into
on next pull. Let's see the third area of the room. Yes we want phase three, we want everyone alive,
we want to start working out exactly how we're going to deal with those combination bags,
at which point every single ad that spawns will be mutated which massively will increase the damage
and difficulty of the fight and that's what they're saving bloodlust for because they want to be
in that phase four as little time as possible. Yeah every time they get empowered they gain
50% more HP, so they will be dealing with so many adds and lasting a long time in that last phase.
That'll be the first time that they're dealing with all worms being mutated.
Now interestingly, the positioning of the worms and the fact they can't move
means that occasionally they do deal with one off worm that gets hit by the black goo and mutated individually.
But in that section of the room where they get phase 3, they're going to have 8 worms,
each of which will be mutated, each of which will be casting much, much faster,
of which must be kicked and since you have eight worms that means you're dealing with two different
egg breaks that each will have three and you have to have kicks for all three of them every time
that's going to be very very difficult and I wonder if it wouldn't be worth potentially treating this
like avatar the fight back in Legion where you deliberately went into phase two early knowing
that you were not going to be able to kill the boss just so you could practice it it might
be worth taking some polls into the worm section first just to practice exactly that issue of
who's kicking and when and dealing with all of the ads. I think that would be interesting.
Yeah, absolutely. They've kind of just been taking the exact same pattern of which area they're going
to first. First the parasites, second the spiders. But yeah, you're absolutely right. They could
just take it into the worm area of the room just to practice that so that when they get
get into the later parts of the fight.
They know exactly what they're doing.
I wonder if we will see that at some point.
It seems like they've got so much progress
even in the areas of the room they've already been in.
They're neatening things,
they're tweaking things constantly
as we see these spiders going down very nicely,
moving into breaking the third exit,
third and final exit of this area.
Yeah, we'll keep an eye on it
and see if they feel the need to go into the other areas.
I think it'd be really good.
It's a very good solution.
Yeah, I think it'd be a really good idea,
But of course, I'm just you know those who can are doing right now and those who can't are on the couch
So may not be as good an idea as I think good seeds spell reflect reduce the damage taken from that magic AOE
Everyone alive all of the parasites pulled in the stun goes out. They press of roar goes out
They stopped the infest fixate, which is good worm getting cleaved very very nicely
The boss was positioned in such a way that all of that cleave on the parasites also hit the worm two parasites
However, did come out of one infest ring of peace knocking them back under the boss preventing the fix a fix that goes out
We need to prevent it from landing. We cannot go into phase two with another infest
So they do get those done that is gonna
Deflect a little bit of damage off the boss boss at 71% we had to deal with a couple of extra worms there
Yeah, just a fraction so every time they go to fixate a player when they're fixated if they do get CCed
They will refix it so people have to stay on their toes and make sure that they're not standing too close to the parasites when they
Refix it because if they refix it back on to you
You don't have much time to adapt and run away from them
They are very speedy as we have the second
wave of healing absorb pulsing out across the raid perfect
I'm dropping very low
But we have everybody nicely topped for the next ad break the first set of eggs in the second
area of the room. Now we have the empowered spiders. Yep, that looks really good. They did get all of the eggs broken.
They got all the parasites going thin. The spiders are being tanked by mirrors. Minis health a little bit low.
He needs some help. Jinji's health a little bit low as well.
We do get them topped, but now the tanks need a lot of attention because mirrors is getting pummeled by three
colossal spiders. Poisoning and reducing is the only taken. DR obviously extremely valuable here.
We're heading to the next set of breaks in 10 seconds, so lots of time to get in position
But we do want these spiders dead before those break debuffs and we have achieved it very very good
Yes, very nice very clean. Oh
Yeah
People off guard you don't anyone rooted when these eggs
Needing to be broken and they do manage to get out every single egg here well played that was difficult
well played. We're on the road to recovery as long as we can AOE down all of these adds,
prevent any fixates, and kill the worms without letting other tasks go off. They are doing an
excellent job of recovering from an error. That was perfect! We're cleaned up, we're good to go.
The next egg breaks is in front of the 10 seconds. We're fine. Absolutely, as they will
need to be finishing off the final two colossal spiders. They go down relatively quickly and
Moving on to the final egg set. Okay now the second area of the room they will have the three tank spiders
One group of parasites. We need to break all three of these clumps of eggs get that Venn diagram
Overlapped I see those popped those popped all are popped group the parasites up grip them together
We're almost in the court of tomb already space is becoming limited as they mow down and stop all the parasites
Unfortunately clicks goes down. We do have a battle res available. We should probably send oh, I'm sorry
We don't we don't have a battle res available
So clicks is gonna be down for a while
But we do have the opportunity to test the quarter of doom strategy
So we're gonna pull the boss down this as far away as possible from phase 3
They take the debuffs into the goo in order to get dispelled as soon as possible get back out of that goo
Marrys this health is extraordinarily low
The spiders need to go down because that vicious bite is gonna be very hard for him to live through canyx health
very low of volatile concoction about to explode, but we're testing the gateway tech. Does anyone
die to us swirly? We're going into phase three with more people alive than ever before.
Alright, this is very exciting. This has been their progress point so far as the boss
is on the top.
Look at that, Tamatheeter!
Warrior, warrior, warrior, death nut, death nut, death nut, death nut.
Okay, past seconds.
It's not seeing all so close together as well as we will have the healing of all
pulsing out across the raid.
Here we go, the final one is we have the first egg breaks of the final area of the room making sure that they update all of these eggs, which they successfully do.
The Heal Absorbs are still up though, so it's good that we got here. We need to fix the healing.
They did not get the third Absorb off and people that had the egg breaking debuff got very, very low.
Oh, man, Rycin, okay, so that was, we're back to Potter, everybody.
Potter and Rycin, we need to fix the healing cooldowns.
Yeah, this is going to be, I think that was their best pull yet.
Best pull ever.
Yeah, we got the 40.9% pull there.
That was also just in terms of mechanically getting through the fight, the best pull
ever.
We actually got to phase three with just one DPS dead, all tanks alive, defeated
the spiders, successfully navigated the corridor of doom.
Yeah, absolutely. We punctured the corridor of doom. The Gauntlet of Goo.
Yeah, the Gauntlet of Goo. So we had the three rounds of Healing Absorbs, two of which got off
fine, but the third one didn't. They're going to need to find some engulfs, some halo, some
hymn, perhaps a rewind, something to put there to top everyone, because you can't have that many
Healing Absorbs going off at the same time as the egg breaks, because once that happened,
too much raid damage, unable to top people, they started falling over and could not handle
the enormous amount of ad control that they need to be able to do, because everything from
those broken eggs was mutated and empowered.
Yeah, so that is going to be a lot of... a lot of talking, I think.
Yes.
They learned a lot that pull.
Yes.
That was, again, being their best pull, seeing that first can... or that final canister
being eaten.
So I think that's going to be a lot of discussion and go down working out there.
Can we pot our POV perhaps?
I'm curious what the healers are up to right now, probably looking at the spreadsheet.
Intentionally discussing.
With the Potter looking at all of his spreadsheets.
Gotta find some healing there.
And there's not an abundance of healing to pull from.
This is a three hill fight where one of your main healers, Spanner, your holy balladin, is playing ret.
Blasting at it too.
Yeah, doing very well.
I love that damage meter.
It's an excellent showcase of skill and ability, the fact that if they need the rep halogen
and they need to drop a healer, that is ready.
You just adapt.
You know what another excellent display of skill and ability is?
The top six slots on the damage meter being warriors and death knights exclusively and every
single one being on top.
My skill, yes.
Oh man, the class stacking is back.
I remember during Heroke Week we all talked so much about class stacking being dead because
of buffs being so mandatory, but they found a way to bring it back.
Robin, bringing it as a DPS death knight despite being a tank main perfecto on a death knight
instead of the rogue on which he's comfortable, then they're playing a ret pallet and three
warriors in, what a timeline that no one anticipated.
This boss really mixing the race up being much more difficult than expected in ways
no one expected causing a comp that no one expected.
Yeah, I think out of all the bosses, this was not one we expected much much pushback from especially seeing a unique and class stacking very exciting.
It's so thrilling to see.
Yeah, I'm excited. I think it's a really great boss and it's good to see that the team is having fun as they work through their progress points.
That was the best pull of the night.
It's good that they're getting really good pulls as they head closer and closer to their bedtime because you want to of course be progressing consistently throughout the night making the most of your time.
For those who are wondering what's going on we spent the morning and some of the afternoon doing splits preparing characters because they came into this with a plan
They wanted to quadruple death knight it which they weren't quite ready to do
They got perfecto and Robin ready to DPS and they got cannex ready to tank
So we're doing this with kind of a unique comp now
We are 53 pulls in and the boss at 40.9% that was our best pull ever our best substantive pull ever
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Rest from an excellent day of mythic definitely nothing else just mythic today, right? Yeah, which hopefully we'll be tomorrow too
Yeah, surely tomorrow will be all mythic. I mean it might be they're clearly in the zone. They're working on the boss
They've made excellent progress. They have plans ready to go
They're gonna work overnight on their comp and timeline as well
We might see something new tomorrow, but I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't spend most of the day on
Mythic progress it is good. I think obviously we are very excited to see this myth of progress
I've had so much fun casting it
but it's good to see that they're going to bed early.
They do have to deal with the reset happening at 6 a.m.
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My name is Asman Gold and I'm excited to tell you about my company Starforge Systems.
When we founded Starforge Systems we had one goal in mind, make the best computers
possible for playing video games.
I don't personally play video games. I just react to tiktoks, but wait, no, this is not true. I do
play games. Who wrote this? I play games all the time. I play Diablo, New World, and well, I don't
just watch other people play those games. I also play them too. I play them all the time. You
know what? I own this company. I don't have to take this sh**. I'm leaving and the logo is a
hammer. Good morning, good
evening, good evening, good
wherever you are right now.
I'm wondering how long it will
take Nogura to realize her
microphone arm is up by the
side of her head instead of by
her mouth. I met a country
by Nogura this morning.
Welcome to the race of the
world first, where we are
already seeing Mythic Plus
this morning. I'm so excited
for Mythic Plus.
Actually, yeah, I'm actually
excited for Mythic though
because even though we are
doing Mythic Plus right now,
I didn't know that it's very likely gonna be Mythic Rating later because we know what Liquid is doing.
They've been pulling Overnecks throughout our night and their day.
I have not killed that boss yet.
So we're definitely gonna see some Overnecks and Brute Twister later today once they're done with their...
Oh, they actually mimicked.
That's actually a Mythic.
Yeah, I was looking at Fraggo's screen and that looks very Mythic plus-y to me, but they are small screens.
No, Mythic plus-other. We lied to you.
We did? Entirely.
Usually we lie to you by saying we do mythic and then it's actually not, but this time it's more like the opposite, reverse psychology.
Yeah, it looks like it's, we might actually have a few polls on Voodtwister this morning.
Overnight as you say, we saw Liquid get down to about sub 30%, 29.4%, with 61 polls on Voodtwister.
Definitely feels like she is going to be the first wall-ish of this tier.
One of the things I realized overnight that I didn't realize before is it's not just the first container that she eats
That empowers the minions in that zone. In fact, it's every time she eats a container
She empowers that style of minions. So there's a bit more to it than just the
First zone that you ingest. Yes in case some of you don't know anything about mythic blue twister
Which unlikely because we've seen some progress already
but maybe you're just waking up maybe you're EU and you haven't seen anything
about this boss on Mythic. Depending on which container you start in, there's
going to be a certain type of spider, a certain type of at that will be in
power. You can see it's listed down here. So the spiders are gonna get that
necrotic wound which means that the tanks usually or whatever agro target is
gonna get hit by the spiders gets that necrotic wound in fact which we've
We've seen cost issues actually for liquid because the necrotic wounds of course being
a healing reduction and the way the tank mechanic works from the boss is that the lower HP
you have, the more missing health you have, the more damage to explosion that.
So you basically explode for rate damage depending on missing health and this necrotic wound
will make that more difficult for the tanks to be healed up which causes some issues
or cost issues for liquid especially when everything is getting super chaotic, when
you get to a point where you're progressing and there's so much damage and a rate and the healers
of course focusing on healing at the rate and with the changes as well that we're coming in
with the tanks having a little bit more sustained a little bit less sustain being more reliant on
the healers that makes it more difficult for sure. Yeah it definitely does and then obviously with
the depending on which mutation you decide to pick up first you then have the worms mutation
which increase their cast time those all have to be interrupted there's about eight of those
adds per section or if it's the empowered section it's eight and then I think it's about three to four
in the other sections. If you have eight you only have three explosions to deal with that so is that
three three two and then having three interrupts at the same time all going off to make sure that
you get rid of those worms it is very difficult and you still have to kill them they can still
recast later on. If you empower the parasites whether you do it first second or last they
get increased movement speed and if they catch up with you they'll infest you and then
they'll multiply as they jump out of you also doing damage so it's a very tricky fight it's not as
plain and simple as i'll just choose the one you want to empower at the start and then deal with
it for the rest of the raid you have to then deal with the other empowered ads as you go along but
i am surprised everyone i talked to this morning was like gonna do m plus for a little bit you
can see liquids i level about three a head of where echo where yesterday when they killed off
I expected, I even spent the last half an hour writing notes in my notebook, thank you
Scrype, about some of the Mythic Plus dungeons, so I knew the mechanics a little bit better.
But apparently you just go straight into View Twister.
Yeah, very interesting for sure.
It is possible.
So one thing that I've noticed, or one thing that I've thought about, is if a boss like
this is difficult, like if a heavy-end boss is difficult, then all of a sudden
becomes pretty complicated. Because it's not just one type of damage you're looking for.
You're not just looking for AoE, you're not just looking for single target. You need enough
damage to deal with the adds, while also maximizing the boss damage. Because the boss's health
also has been an issue, I think, for Liquid as well, where they were thinking, okay,
we need to allocate as much damage as we need on the adds, but everything else should
be boss damage to make sure that we can actually kill the boss at the end, once
the room is filled with the black blood because then obviously that's the
enrage or soft enrage with his fight so yeah having a very balanced comp to make
sure you have enough damage on all of those types of adds to support and we
obviously have pretty like okay I don't want to completely lie but I don't think
Liquid had hunters. Yeah two hunters in this which is as you say a little bit
surprising I wasn't able to watch all of the liquid pulls but I'm sure
Maybe you could get them up. I don't think people will mind us looking at our phones at 7 in the morning
Like just grab the iPad have a mosey see what you can do. The password is a one two three four five six
Cavaliers, I know you said it on the oh, no my mistake
Oh, no, if you're able to sneak into the SK magenta facility grab the iPad you can now
We can get it. Yes
Yeah, so what do we have oh there was one hunter on liquid apparently we have two hunters we have two shamans it looks like it is a
Guardian druid and a brew mice brewmaster
for our tanks alongside that double warrior single paladin double mage I
Think like warriors are absolutely topping some of those damage charts. Oh, yeah, words are crazy one thing I've
thought about as well is that maybe we see possibly a blood decay here because
of all of these adds that would be really nice to grid and I think liquid is
running too frosty case so to DPS the case still sticking to that guardian
druid and the room master and we all see for Acre here but there we go we do see
that twister pull coming in straight away there was not even a lot of
talking or anything just like straight away pulling that no we have prog a lot
the players only got in within the last 20 minutes or so so I think it might just be a
let's get some reps in on this boss let's see what it feels like let's start to orchestrate the fight
this is ingesting the black blood I believe this is in the spider area I'm trying to count the eggs
might be the worms actually I see a lot of those medium-sized eggs so it could be a worm zone
now of course we have to vendiogram here with these debuffs to actually crack those eggs out
parasites coming out early there's a spider there as well I think we may have
missed one yeah interesting so because you have to double-axe sometimes like
there's two next to each other then you have to overlap them both and what
happened here is that they overlapped one but not the other one and they also
missed the blue one in the corner as well yeah we do see the markers come
down I assume they're gonna move them for each wave somebody's like marking
down and then we have this really cool week are that we saw in the middle
the screen. So basically it's an overlaid image that shows where the markers are gonna
be and which one you have to break. So that's something that I've already figured out beforehand apparently.
I've managed to count and I think this is the parasite section we're starting in.
So it basically depends on, so the more acts of a type there are in this area, that's
that type to get some power up here. Yeah, in the empowered zone there'll be eight
of that type of egg and then in the other zones there'll be eight of the clots of
Spiders or ace of the worms depending on which area we're in you need to reload you. I frago
Get on it get ready. He's got his fans. So ready for prog today. We actually have a really nice breakfast
I was slightly worried that we weren't gonna get breakfast this morning
So I had a banana earlier, but we got some chia seeds some little chocolate chips
Very you know just a little bit of extra long-term energy for the day hasn't kicked in yet. I'm gonna be honest
Oh, okay, you're gonna you're gonna vibe for us. Are you?
Yeah, of course.
It doesn't look like we're using Orcs.
Double Press Evoker with a Priest.
Oh, maybe we are using Orcs actually. I thought we only had two Evokas in.
Yeah, let me see. We don't double press.
Oh, Tripple.
Tripple Press? Is Zatsu on Press as well?
Because there's definitely double Press on the HPS meters, but I don't see Zatsu's healing there yet.
I think, yeah, I think that's a Press Evoker, right?
Oh no, Fragg's in...
I think it's triple Pressivoker and Fraggo just got swapped out.
Yeah, looks like it, doesn't it?
So it's like Satsi got moved in and Fraggo's swapped out.
That would be crazy running three Pressivokers.
I mean they are really strong.
They're actually really really strong.
Yeah, unless I'm piloting them.
It looks like they're pulling right now with Satsi out.
So like Fraggo is in right now.
Yeah.
The groups at the top are slightly hard to read.
Frago's in, Zutzi's out, but Zutzi's in group 3. It is still mythic prog guys, even though it looks like there's more than 25 people in the raid.
Took me a second to understand that one as well, Nagora. Here we are in the Parasite section of an Axewell and Jester Blackblood.
You can see the Parasite eggs turn into this sort of more maroon-y red. That means they're empowered, and now we'll see the overlaps coming up in about 7 seconds time.
Obviously expectations are normal die early here great week or as you say showing you exactly where you need to overlay if you have the experimental dosage
They're gonna go and cross and do that. This will be a colossal spider a worm
Another colossal spider down towards the bottom side. I think in some of those parasites already we have lost
Oh, we haven't lost that seat. He's just
Thanks guys
overly slightly easier for us to understand. In League they're either dead or they're not.
So the boss reset? Oh because somebody was outside, then what's left to see presumably?
Yeah. But how is that seen in a raid? I'm very confused. Is Perfecto now out? I think Perfecto
is now out. Okay Zut, no no, Frago is out according to these raytraps. No, like this raytraps just
shows 20 people. Yeah but Frago is in. No I think it's Perfecto. Perfecto is I think out.
Yeah, Perfecto, if we went over to his view, which we're not going to do because it doesn't show anything, it would show just the desktop.
So it seems like he's out right now. There we are.
Yeah, so Perfecto out.
Only one rogue.
Oh, he's gonna be so upset.
Yeah.
Push in, Perfecto out.
You just got to get better, Perfecto.
Purely in matter of skill.
There's no luck in both.
He's gonna go down to the gym now.
Yeah, it's so hard.
Him and Preach down there early in the morning just working out.
It just feels so bad to be beaten by Cush, I thought you could be one of the rats fucking
leaving you.
I mean this is obviously not the... like they're just going to be switching stuff back and
forth, trying things out, this is not Southern Stone at all of course, they're just going
to get a few tries in, see what kind of damage it needs and also check their weak
cards too because I did see that the weak card that they had, like the first
image that showed up, was wrong.
So in case you don't know how weak guards work, don't, first of all, don't worry about it, no one knows how weak guards work.
They're incredibly complicated.
But the way these weak guards work, they're not like some super, like they're not computational.
Like this is literally just an image. Like they've made these images beforehand of the room where they were mapping out the eggs and they put rings as like an overlay.
So basically whenever Ediba comes up, you see this image over your screen.
which means that you have to like perfectly know which ones are gonna break your forehand
to be able to get these images done correctly.
But what we've seen on the first set of debuffs is that the image was actually wrong.
So they're gonna have to update that weaker, making sure that it's always correct.
Very similar I think to like NELF in Altharian,
where you had overlaid images for the position of where you have to go with like the heart,
I've got what it's called, like this huge circular lead that you have to spread out with.
I mean, Jailor is a very good example as well, right?
Because on Jailor it showed you exactly what position you had to jump into the tube, I guess.
The tube of bombage.
Wait, actually that was computational though.
Oh, okay, well.
Basically, that weaker was dynamic with the current story, like we'll have the debate back.
Oh, true.
These ones are not.
It's just an image of the...
It's just a pre-determined image.
Just like you said, no one understands Wikora and me especially so...
Very confusing.
It's just always confusing.
You're not known if you have to study IT if you want to do a World of Warcraft like that.
I went through medicine, I did League of Legends, now I'm in World of Warcraft.
Apparently I have to do comp science now as well.
Absolutely jokes.
I will say we do see some evokas setting up here.
It's a nice little bit of tech that probably most evokas know,
if you're a noob like me and you've just picked it up because it's S tier, you might not know it.
You set up your Stasis, you throw out, it takes about 30 to 45 seconds, throw out 3 temporal anomalies,
then wait 10 seconds, make sure the pull is on time, and you can get 4 temporal anomalies out at the start of the fight,
meaning if you have a big upfront bit of damage at the fight, you already have your Echo Spread amongst a bunch of people.
Also means you can top the HPS charts for about 20 seconds before the rest of the healers catch up.
up. Feels really good. HBS then, if you're me, drops down quite a lot to about 400k, but
still passing better than I did last week. That's the important thing, right, Nicaragua?
Yeah, that was the most pity-nice I've heard in the history of Nices. Thank you. Thank
you, Karo. It's very kind of you. I'm also like, I'm happy for other people so much
because I want them to return to happiness whenever I do a little bit of damage because
I play Munkin, right? But I mean, I do want to say that Munkin actually got
Like the buff that Mochim received, I felt it yesterday when I was playing, like it was really good.
I think the plus in particular, Mochim's kind of sleeker.
You're just trying to get more people to play Moonkin, so more people complain about Moonkin.
Please, invite these groups.
I can do more than a plus too! Please! I'm again!
Of course, through the entire base to World First we're raising money for Games for Love,
which is an amazing charity that brings distraction therapy and play to children in hospitals.
Also supports them after they have managed to leave the hospital with things like internship
programs, scholarship programs.
They have lots of people in STEM fields who have been through the program who are now
helping mentor the next generation.
You can donate with the S-Meshmark donate or with the panel below the screen.
I think we're still doing the $10 gets you a transmog review as well.
And I will say, Nagura and I are a lot kinder than Preach would be at your transmogs.
So if you want some feel-goods on it, I'm really nice.
If you want some kind words on your transmogs at 7.25, 7.30 a.m. on a Thursday, that's what
we're here for.
Yeah, same.
And like, a day's just become, is it a day I'm working?
Is it a day I'm not working?
It makes the world first every day is the day that we're working.
about other charity incentives, Operation Medic at $5,000. Who's cast is it anyway?
Which is all my favorite moments of the last race at $10,000. I know Jesse's
been spending some time setting that up. We have the RC Rumble, which is racing
cast throughout the studio with the production cameras on top of them, meaning
we're likely to break some production cameras, yeah.
Scuff cosplay, radar portraits, the International Cast for Appreciation Day
where I'm hoping Jordan gets another bag of fertilizer.
The Nerubar, that one sounds so funny.
The Nerubar, which is a cocktail hour based around a Moctel,
Moctel hour based around the Nerubar Palace.
And then Jesse and I will be getting crab and spider tattoos
if we hit $40,000, modeled on-
Not real ones, right?
Really?
Yeah, real ones.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm down.
You don't, you're going to get one?
You're in at 40k?
I mean, all of this feels nice.
It's modelled on these?
Yep.
Nagura's in at 40k!
Clip it in ship, put it on the document.
I'm doing it.
Nice.
Which one are you getting, the crab or is it mine?
I'm getting the crab, cause I want a marine life sleeve anyway.
So I'm thinking like a cartoon, stickery marine life down my left arm.
It's cute.
Yeah.
I mean, I already have fish, so the crab actually would fit better in theory.
Yeah.
I don't know what the crab...
I can choose mine.
Yeah, you can get all the time in the world to choose.
until we get 40k which is definitely not going to happen today right chat that would be a jump
imagine if you really want to see the girls tattoo get in there there's just again the two artists
just waiting the corner is like oh hello hello i'm here time for tattoos um there is also a
stretch goal where alex and i and anyone else i can rope in from production and maybe preach are
are going to do the sussie on stream if we get to 50k.
Please, no.
No, I'm not.
You don't want us to do the sussie?
I want people to donate, but I don't want you to do the sussie,
no.
That's understandable.
You should reserve that for my fiancee.
Private times.
But yeah, so we had two pools and now we have nothing.
As we pourers are being organized.
Oh, pulling 50 seconds.
Okay, nevermind them.
What were you gonna say?
Yeah, I was saying maybe we can look at the flashback and like talk a little bit about like last days recap, but nope.
Here we are, another pull coming out.
Over next pulled over towards the parasites once again.
Apart from the empowered mutations, the only other thing you really have to look for is the tank buster in this fight, as you said earlier.
If the lower the tank's health is, the more the explosion of damage that comes out is afterwards,
so you want to make sure that you have those DRs on your tank, you want a damage reduction,
you want to make sure your tank is topped up before that tank buster comes in.
Once again, it is the mutated parasite.
It's the weak aura.
Is that correct?
One, two, three.
That looks right-ish.
Yeah?
Yeah, it looks good.
So we're going to be cracking two, four, five, six, seven eggs on this initial.
Oh and now understand that you can even see the corruption, right?
Yeah, that maroon colour rather than the pinky red.
That's a good to know.
Lots of parasites coming out. Have to spread for those webs as well.
Parasites you don't want to get near you. Have to kill them, kick them, interrupt them,
just get them away from you, stun them, CC them before they get infested off.
Because if they do they then multiply. The worm is an interrupt.
You can see it coming up there. Poison burst.
Yeah, we missed an intro up there that's gonna, oof.
Yeah, so it's interesting to see that they're going with the parasites first because
at least on a heroic, in my opinion, the parasites are the one type of ad that can get out of control so quickly.
Yeah, it's just multiplication.
Yeah, and like if one person gets infested it's hard to recover from this, especially when they're spread out.
Because then all of a sudden you have the parasites in all corners and the players are all around the room
around the room and then you can't really like gather them up anymore, that's because
you're just going to get them closer to the target that they're trying to fix it. So yeah,
it's very difficult to deal with them once they're out of control like that.
Yeah, I mean it's exponential multiplication right, 2 to 4 to 8 to 16 to 32 to 64 and
it just in the end the entire room will be covered in these these parasites echo
continuing to have the same struggles that everyone else has had so far on this boss.
usually how many pulls would you say it would take Nagura to get into a rhythm
with a boss like this because it's very easy from the outside to say what just
go where your weak aura says just kick the things you know just interrupt these
casts but there is a degree of getting them the fight into your head that
takes a while yeah I do think that this fight is taking a while because
obviously Akko can look at what liquid did over the last couple of hours
but I don't think this boss is as strategy heavy okay like obviously which
axe you're breaking is important but the boss kind of predetermines which axe
you have to break because of the pool the blood that is coming out of the
canister right so the only thing that you can kind of copy from liquid is
which canister you go with first so they know that they're just gonna copy
that right but how do you deal with the ads is the most important thing of
despite and really, as I talked about earlier, making sure you're allocating the correct amount
of damage for each add-way, not only with your composition, making sure you have the
correct comp, but also when are you using your cooldowns, right, like who is using cooldowns
for the first wave, who is using cooldowns for the second wave, who is using cooldowns
on the boss, when are we bloodlusting, when are we using healer cooldowns and so on,
like mitigation for the tanks, for the tank explosions we talked about as well.
So I do think that is going to be really what Akko needs to practice and that's
something that they cannot necessarily copy from Liquid. Like they can go look at their
logs and see exactly what they're doing and do it exact same way. Like that is not something
that they can copy. So I do think that this boss is going to be difficult for them and
they're going to be needing, I would say, similar amounts of pools than Liquid does. Because
usually Akko needs less pools on these other bosses compared to Liquid because Liquid
is the one who's pulling it for the first time. But I think this boss is probably
not gonna be like that I think they're definitely gonna need some force to get
used to it. Liquid had got to the stage where they were bloodlusting in p3 as well
assuming we count each ingestion as a phase it's not really a phase but you
can kind of talk about it like that they were waiting for that final
ingestion on the third canister and then they were lusting looks like a
couple of talent changes here for Kush our rogue hero. I'm expecting more
pulls hopefully this morning. I do also expect some m plus we could quickly jump
over to wolf before the fall happens he's in mists of tirna scythe which does
have a great week aura as well you don't have to do any of the calculations of
where to go there's just a week aura and you say our man you don't play a
healer do you? Well I play mook and adieu this game all the time because I love
doing it. Okay if you enjoy the game you still get to do it on the second
boss where she does those phases right but as a healer all that would
happen is when you get into this dungeon, people would say,
Heela, please do game.
And then you'd just be running around and then be like,
why did I die to a bat?
And it's like, well, because you told me to do the game.
Can't focus on two things at once.
But there is a weak aura that basically does it for you
after the first couple of chambers,
because I think it looks at the enemy ID
and specific enemy IDs dictate which direction you're
meant to go.
Perhaps.
Don't.
Is there a way for us to tell what level this key is?
Just looking at it from the outside?
It's all the way up in the corner, yeah.
But that's not usually on the UI.
Unless you have it on the right side, I guess,
because it shows the affixes.
Yeah, so usually if you have a standard UI,
then you know where you have your quest objectives,
and you just open up this kind of mythic-plus window,
and then it sets the level there.
That makes sense.
But because he is a weaker, I replace this as the standard UI.
And I don't know what's up with that.
I think Miss is about 90% clear if you just do the straight line path so they want to pick up a couple more of the forces as they go along.
Something you might not know if you've never done M+, before is there is a certain set amount of adds you have to clear through the raid.
You can't just add through the dungeon, you can't just skip everything.
I learned that yesterday. I already knew it, but you know when you've done an M0 so many times that you forget about the adds?
We completed the second boss on Dawnbreaker.
I flew up to the Dawnbreaker again, because that's where the third boss is.
Died because I went through too much of the darkness.
Oh yeah.
And then you can't remount, because you spawn back on the Dawnbreaker,
and it's like, oh the boss is here, you're not allowed to mount right now,
so my creep just wiped down on the ground.
I felt so bad.
Wait, that must be, like, that's something they should fix though,
because yeah, that is a problem.
Because whatever you just die from trash, and then you can't come back,
like that is weird.
They should address that.
But yeah, as you said, there is the game now on the bus well, where you have this admission
where the bus gets immune and you have to find the odd one out.
Yeah, basically you have to find, there are three parameters that you're looking for. Does
it have a circle or not have a circle? Does it have a flower or a leaf? And is it filled
or not filled? And whichever one of those doesn't match the others is the clone you
are going for. There are two different missions there. Not sure why we cut back to us.
I know that Mitch wants us in a moment to throw to the staff or G play but the girl was drinking
No girl was drinking. We were talking about the boss
Yeah, but then why did we come back to us Mitch?
Obviously we all love each other here. It's just a bit of banter in the morning waking us up
I hope that went out, I hope that went out to the stream, but yeah, Miss the second
boss, third boss, what's the third boss in this?
The last boss is like a big maggot type thing.
Oh yeah, and then it looks a bit like Blue Twister, I do have that, do you want the
name?
It's funny because I should know the name because I casted DMDI where Miss was part
of it.
multiple times like
Tradova
Tradova, yeah
It's a good name
Has the mind link mechanic as well
You need to run away from your tank
Which is always fun
One of the coolest mechanics
Is a tradova mechanic
And they never repeat it anywhere else
Like sometimes
This happens so many times
When there's a mechanic you see it everywhere
Like everywhere
more often, right? Like there's swirly, so you have a soak and then there's this and
you have to spread out, like there's a portal, like the cymox ring that we see, whatever, like they
get repeated. But there's one mechanic on Tradova that remembers how you dodge. So basically-
Yeah, on the green swirly. Yeah. So you have a swirly that spawns underneath your character
and the second time you have that same ability happening, it will spawn a second swirly
and it will spawn it the way you dodge the first one. So if I dodged four words and then
then I stood still right there, then the second Swirlie will spawn in that location where I dodged the first one, right?
And this will repeat forever, so...
And I thought that is such a cool mechanic because then you have to actually dodge in a very purposeful way.
Because if you just blink super far away, then that Swirlie could kill another person later because it's not dissipated.
Every time, that's why I blink hover forward towards my DPS and then blame them for not dodging the Swirlies.
Yeah, I would just love to perhaps mechanic like this in the raid, but then maybe that's too many people?
If there's 20 people that I just run around and there's toys everywhere, that might be a bit too complicated, who knows?
I like the level of coordination it requires. I think having it on Heroic and Normal not be enough damage to kill you is good.
If it does like a third of your health on Normal and half of your health on Heroic, then it's like a...
you can't coordinate to like one step forward, okay? Next time we take a step back, okay?
Next time we take a step to the right, like you have eight directions you can go in before you're actually out of a six-yard bubble or so.
I think that's really interesting. One mechanic that I've heard apparently happened on Lich King that I would really like to see again is
the
deliberate or like scripted wipe of a raid when they get to low HP and then the boss bringing them back to life
to fight them more so it's like I'd love to see it in as the mythic only phase
here where it's the Xalateath comes in wipes you all but then revives you as
ascended or something and then you have to fight her for like 10% or
something I thought that'd be really fun interesting yeah yeah I like that idea
there's a cutscene in God of War 2 that does it you fight if you're
listening you can still write this up and like implemented real quick yeah you
You've got tons of time, Brutus is going to take his weeks, so...
Sorry, there was a fight?
Yeah, in God of War 2, you fight Thor, obviously spoilers, but I think that game's been out for
like four years now, so if you haven't seen it, you haven't seen it.
And you're like, you can be winning, you can be losing the fight.
I'm not a massive fan of, I'm winning the fight.
Oh no!
One thing killed me because it's scripted, but it's usually quite a close fight.
And then Thor will kill you, puts... like you have the game over screen, he puts
It's monnier on your chest and says you die when I fucking say you die.
Electricity brings you back to life and then you have, you know.
I love that.
Yeah.
That is very cool.
Here's Treadover.
Amazing.
Our blue Twister wannabe.
Definitely wasn't out before her.
They do like their wormy bosses though, don't they?
They do.
Yeah.
But yeah, this boss, it's never really been a big issue like in the past before
but whenever they bring back a dungeon from previous expansions, people are always
it's very interesting to me because people are like dreading certain dungeons
or loving certain dungeons according to how easy or hard it was previously but
they can like completely change it right? just because they bring back a dungeon
doesn't mean it's easy they can make mechanics much harder they can to
emboss this harder and that is actually what is happening on some of these
dungeons so a dungeon that was previously easy now can be hard like for
For example, Necrotic Wake is a dungeon that was really easy in beta.
Before that, when it was live, it was actually kind of difficult.
You had to do like, share against with kind of weapons.
You had to have a priest and then mind control the harvester, otherwise you couldn't do high keys.
If you used the weapon on a boss and then you didn't kill the boss,
you basically were done with the dungeon high keys because the weapons were so powerful
and missing out on them basically meant you can't do the dungeon anymore.
And how do you fix all of that?
Cicero is also one of those dungeons that people hated, myself included, one of the worst dungeons in BFF.
But now they've made it kind of like bearable. It's not that bad anymore, but maybe the whole chat is going to be like,
No, it's still bad.
Isn't Aquatic Wake the one with Stitcher?
Is that always that grim patot?
I'm so bad with him. I don't know. To me, it's always like second to third boss, fourth boss.
He brings up all the mobs and you have to hook him.
Oh yeah, that's a good one.
Apparently Xalatath's orbs can spawn in the way of the hook.
So even though you aim it properly, they intercept the hook.
I've seen people complain about that.
They're like, we can't get the boss down.
The orbs are always there.
Xalatath is once again interrupting us all.
That's hilarious.
Yeah, so even though the boss is dead, you have to kill 100% of the forces.
You can see in that left hand corner here on M+,
M+, they are just getting that last 3.4%, 10 more ads need to go down for them to have cleared it.
We didn't have any more pools on Brew Twister, which is why we've been watching M+, for the last of the while
and I expect for the next 4 hours or so until lunchtime, we're likely going to be doing a bit of an M+, world tour.
I'm not quite sure exactly what they're looking for on each of these, we'll see if anything cool pops up here for Wolf Disco,
but they will obviously be deliberately doing the dungeons that give them the loot that they're looking for, right?
It's not like M0 where you have a daily lockout where you got nothing, excellent, nice for you.
It's not like M0 where you had a daily lockout, here you can just spam for as long as you want 6-10 critical strike mastery.
That's not what I wanted.
There's like a trick that drops here, I guess, like changeling. I wonder if that's what they're looking for here.
The way the loot works, in case you're wondering why they're doing a plus 8, so plus 10 is technically what gives the highest item level
for both the vault and the end of dungeon chests, but they don't really care about the vault right now, they just care about the items right now, about the chests here
and from plus 6 onwards you already get Hero Track
Now of course you have to waste more crests and upgrades if you have a lower Hero item
But it's very likely that they already have a higher item level in their bags and then you get the discount, right?
So to make it easier in them, they're just gonna do lower keys to make it faster and then they only have to spend more
Valor stones, which technically they should have available. So yeah, they can just do the lower key levels, it's not gonna be the end of the world.
And then of course in plus has changed quite a lot from previous expansion. We have completely new affixes
I think some of you have already seen that as you were probably playing in plus yourself and live servers
But if you didn't play the way the affixes work now, so we don't have any of the old affix anymore
So there's no sanguine no
Explosive no nothing none of that it's all gone
And now we have a completely new ethics called the Xaltas bargain and there's four different ones and
I they have all like very similar names and very similar icons
So I don't actually like whatever I hear name. I'm like, no idea which one this is
But the way they work like one there's like orbs that spawn they come close enough to intercept. It's like his curse
ethics is crazy. So you have to
You have to soak something or you switch to something and if you do it correctly you get a buff
And if you do it incorrectly the mobs get above and a lot of players are kind of looking forward to that kind of ethics
Because it feels rewarding when you do it correctly. Yeah, well the previous affixes. They only had a negative effect
Yeah, it's like yeah, just felt bad. They felt really bad
Especially as a new a new dungeon goer getting into a key and being like it's sanguine and
Explosive and I don't know what I'm doing
90% of the time just blow up immediately
We do have some self-aulter flashback highlights from yesterday available for us, or even from
the race to world first so far, so why don't we have a quick watch of those while I get
another coffee.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's the moment we've all been waiting for.
We've been waiting an entire week for this.
That's right, Mike gets to see Adele.
And Gidgy's in Adele's, and look at him casting the spells so that you can see
that Spitfire Fuse tender throwing that dynamite out there.
Mike is of course gonna have to sidestep that otherwise a hell of a lot of damage is gonna be coming in
How do you think he's gonna be getting with these upcoming lack of breath that's coming in this part of it?
Welcome to the first two days of heroic
Modern country that has everything closed on a Sunday these days out lagers shenanigans to poor
Ever since I've been here attitude
Oh another neck let's fucking go guys
Oh we got beans on toast! Let's go!
Thank you, thank you, it smells so bad!
Yeah, it's the way they squish I know Jesus about to pop open say that definitely doing splits
They're gonna do splits all day
Interesting a right if she has almost like a combination of cymox and from
ETA of tomorrow 1200 we'll get the regular updates and keep you all up to date
Okay, is it splits for the laundry or are you doing a whole combined?
There's gonna be a spreadsheet that you need to follow
Yeah, I will email it to you tonight and when it arrives
Do we get to split the loot between the kill or is it each person gets their own individual?
It's gonna have to be personal look on this one. I think yeah, that's a shame
But I was hoping to get one of Chris's shirts. I'll be honest
The charity and a bit of gambas were split since fine day. I will drink my beanie rim juice
As he masticates the beans
Slowly
Stopping look at you rat
Did you notice how long it took Mike to touch the feet as you say?
Don't let the shield channel, it's gonna get you.
Come on, keep plowing, we've got 0.5% left.
Oh, the Raiders gig, solo Maristair live.
It's time for you to show off if you have the best player here.
Here, this one up.
Oh!
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They got so lucky.
Check, check, check, check, check, the Sonics.
And we're back.
I'm still coffee-less,
because I didn't realize I was only two and a half minutes
long, didn't have time to go and get myself a coffee.
Yeah, I was really excited about my,
covered it I found for this mug that fits perfectly and I thought it's gonna like have my coffee stay really hot it does not yeah I
feel like the the lateral seepage of heat is a problem with a mug that size yeah it's a very
problematic and I'm gonna have to rethink my choice of mug you could get
frozen works actually have a thermal mug but you could use I haven't tried it
yet they're frozen powers have been pretty good for us though the last few days I actually liked it yeah none of us bought any but we
You can pretend that we're really fit and healthy, preachers the one who's in the gym
every day at 6am.
He is.
It's crazy.
It's grotesque.
Thank you.
It's funny how I said I'm going to rethink my choice of mug and then it's just the same
one for you.
It is pretty looking.
Yeah, it's very pretty.
We're going to...
And if you have put like...
We just match now.
Live simply.
Also, I didn't want to...
That's what it says.
Yeah.
I didn't want to notice like this, the Star Forge flashback.
It looks so much flashier and like...
It looks like it was so many things happening. It was so much fun.
And then when you think back, it's like splits, right? Yeah. Yeah.
It was just all splits and four bosses.
But I mean, it's still a lot of cool stuff happening. Yeah. I mean, it was. Yeah.
I mean, like always in this broadcast, right?
That's why you should always tune in.
Yeah. Always watch our broadcast.
It's amazing. We're always so much fun.
We're living simply with our three different monitors,
two lights, auto-Q, 44k camera, Starforge PC, our Red Bull fridge, you know? Simple living
here in cold, chia seed breakfast. It's Mirrors' birthday! It feels birthday man from Mirrors.
Having a great day, waking up to do something in class. Walking around. I was wondering
about the floor design in Donegal. The floor? Yeah, so if you look at it, you have
all of these squares that have the sides cut out. But the diamonds in the middle of the squares,
some of them have an extra diamond inside them and some of them don't. And it's sort of diagonal.
Do you think it's a comment on modern architecture or do you think it's just they thought the
diamond inside look cool? I definitely think that this is deep. I'm going to have to think
about this because I've never seen this before. And this is yeah, this is a deep subject.
And I'm gonna have to like put some thought into this before I can answer this question also known as medic. You're making shit up
You see where are the tires on the floor here? No
We'll just leave that one
There's roots in mr. Turner's side and you can open them if you're a druid or
Or some other things, I don't know, but I'm a druid so I don't really care about that
Yeah, that's the one reason to bring a druid into any party. No other reasons unless they're willing to kill Guardian
Here we are. This is Grimbatoll
Yeah, I wonder, hmm interesting that they do Grimbatoll as well
What drops there? I do know that there's like this really OP Trinket that everyone wants in Arakara like on the first boss
But I haven't seen many people in Arakara, so it looks like
Like, sack food, right?
Yeah, like maybe that's not as hot anymore as...
Well, I also wonder if a lot of them just got it.
Cause we did have people doing M0s and such initially.
Yeah, but M0 would be bad at it, right?
Yeah, that's true.
We would have to re-fer it again.
But it's possible, cause they nerf the trinket,
like they definitely changed some trinkets.
It's possible that some people go...
And one thing that happens sometimes
at the start of an expansion or the start of a patch
that because the way people figure out what trinkets are the best is by using
simcraft or raid bots which is obviously this like it basically calculates
what's the best trinket for you is but sometimes because these things they have
to be manually implemented into simcraft right it's like it's not
related to blizzard it's like a third-party tool yeah so sometimes when
they implement trinkets or effects or whatever into that program, they implemented wrong.
Because you know they're humans, they make mistakes and sometimes it's just wrong on or they
implemented the way it wasn't beta or in ptr but then Blizzard changed it and no one called it
if it wasn't like an official change or whatever. So sometimes what happens is that everyone gets
baited thinking that a certain trinket is like the best and then it turns out it's not and
And one of the funniest stories about trinkets was in Emerald Nightmare, this was, what's
the expression is this? Legion? Yeah. Like the first raid in Legion, everyone thought,
every single caster thought they need this one trinket. It was called like Twisted Something.
Okay. And oh my god it's so good, it's so good, it's so good. And it was seeming
the best for everyone. And it turned out the way it worked is that it would spawn
a tornado, and the tornado did a certain amount of damage, but only if it hits the target.
And these tornadoes spawned, and then did these huge random circles, and it would not hit
anything.
And it was only good if every single tick would do damage.
And it took the community so long to understand that the string is actually garbage.
I saw people running around with this drink, it's still like after like months and every
time I saw it, I was like, no, I just thought it's like funny tornado going around, it's
like, oh look at the tornado, like nothing and damage.
It sounds like me trying to do dungeons as well.
My flame breath is great.
There's tons of damage if it hits any of the opponents.
That's fine.
But yeah, we see the little dragon riding section of Grimvitol there, you're trying
to get cleave down these enemies with your fire breath.
The enemies here can be a little deadly, like if you get caught out by them, especially by
the little twilight drakes, they can absolutely rip through you, but obviously these guys,
very good at clearing M+, it is, oh wait, it's a 9, so they're trying to get a little
bit more item level out of the chest at the end instead of just doing a plus 8.
For a second I thought it was a plus 2, because it says plus 2 equals 27, but that's
the timer if you want to get the key upgraded obviously. To get that further on.
Yeah also like the the the weaker that the wolf is running like with only the
timer. There's no bars like this would be really confusing to me like wolf is
running UI that looks very clean. Yes. You know when something like it looks
beautiful but it's not like as like you don't see the information as quickly
care more about the looks rather than like anything else and I mean Wolf is
obviously a good player and I'm sure he gets all of the information he needs but
if I don't have a bar that fills up okay then I get confused like if I would
have to look up there and look at the actual times so we have four minutes
out of 34 and that's like you know you only need to get the 34 in your head
once right like for me that's not easier I would not remember the number okay my
My brain, I love this overlay.
Really?
Yeah, I really like this.
Oh, that's interesting.
It gives me all the information I want.
I don't think I'd need the individual boss bits,
because I don't really care how long it took me to time each boss,
but that might just be the level I'm at.
But I really like it.
I think that I'll probably ask him, or go,
I don't know, is Wolf streaming?
Go to his stream, sub, get his UI.
Tends to be the way of the world.
So it's an estimation mark?
Yeah, like, and plus timer and chat,
we're probably going to give you a command or something.
Yeah, so this general umbrella you're dodging away from these lines or the dragons with the flamebath across a foyer
There's one channel one column that is always open to you that you can go into and often
You're just going for one side of the platform to the other
Trying to get away from him not the hardest first boss of an m-plus should be relatively simple for these guys
But there is always the risk when you have those rock areas coming down that you aren't gonna have much free space as
as it goes along. Second boss of this fight though, of this dungeon really annoys me.
Because I'm pretty sure it's the second or the third. It might be the third.
Yeah, it's the third. The third one. We bloodlust it on pull and then we're like,
oh, this boss is going down really easily. And we'll talk about it when we get there.
But yeah, don't bloodlust on pull on the third boss. It doesn't work too well.
I mean, the Grim Battles is actually interesting because it's such an old dungeon and I've been playing this game since Vanilla, right?
So technically speaking, I would know all the dungeons, but before Mythic Plus was a thing, all of these dungeons, you did them like a couple of times and then at least I personally like did them a couple of times at the start of an expansion and then you kind of never had to do dungeons ever again and then they didn't because I'm not a big awesome fan of doing things for no reason.
But so yes a lot of these dungeons I remember like very like vaguely you know
and then people say it's Grimbatal, it's Grimbatal and they're like what is that?
Like I don't remember and then I do the dungeon and then I have all of these
like flashbacks for like years and years and I was like oh I remember being here like
but yeah this is Grimbatal a lot of people were really excited for this and
I like the dungeon but it's definitely a bit like it's under more difficult time for sure
Yeah, it's it was definitely pretty hard when I when I did it. Yeah, I agree with that. I also think it's
It's a little
Normal for me. It's like, oh, what's the dungeon where we go through a castle and we kill the bosses of the castle?
Yeah, you know and like it's still fun and still enjoy I'm sure there's a lot of nostalgia for people
And I'm not trying to poo poo your nostalgia
It's just in terms of an inventive and interesting boss.
It's like, cool, you know, we fight a, we fight a big guy with an axe and then we fight a guy who does bring out lava, which is cool.
And then you fight another guy who we're not going to talk about yet, because you're all going to be so surprised by the mechanics of the third boss.
And then you fight the Duke of Below.
The Duke of Below is cool.
I like the Duke of Below with the, he's the guy with the tentacles, right?
I'm remembering that correctly.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah I think that boss is very interesting. I like it as well. But I did
quickly want to say if you guys are tuning in now and you're wondering why are
they not doing Mythic? They are we're just not showing you. Very
deliberately. We hate you all. They actually already killed Brute Twister,
they're on... twice. But no yeah they tried Mythic earlier so at the very
start of their raid day they did pull the boss a couple of times to get
information, very likely weaker information to make sure that they can fix those
for when they come back later and other farming gear. So if you look at the
right-hand side where you can see the standing, the current standing, you'll see
that Liquid is 4 out of 8 and they had 619.7 item level on their
characters right now, on their best pull here on Overnecks, while Akko's item level,
You can't see it right now, but it's like 616, 617.
It was 617 when they killed Sikran.
I didn't see what it was for...
You mean Rasshanan?
Oh, Sikranan.
Yeah, yeah, Sikranan.
I didn't see what the...
No, Rasshanan.
Rasshanan's 4.
You're right.
Yeah, when they killed Rasshanan.
I didn't see what it was on the pause this morning.
It depends if they were logged or not.
But yeah, 617.
So about 3 eye levels below where Liquid are.
Obviously they can still have upgrades on the gear that they've got.
You kind of progressively upgrade as you get through more bosses.
There's no point throwing everything at a boss before you really need to unless if you're
on a reset and you just really want to quickly re-clear everything to get towards the difficult
point.
But for now, expectations are we're just farming those valos signs.
Canix.
Well, I think he died there.
Did he get BR'd immediately?
Yeah, he did.
Canix went down.
He's back now.
That connects, of course, being a DPS player, tanking some of these keys.
Of course, whenever you do M+, like that, on all of your Raiders, you're not going to have enough tanks.
So some of the Raiders that play DPS or healer have to respect to tank.
I mean, you say some of them. Anyone that plays Druid, I think at the moment, is just respecting into tanks.
Can you be a bear? That's the question. I have also just been informed that if you aren't enjoying watching on Twitch,
You can watch on YouTube. You can rewind. You can hear us say the things that were funny again and again and again and again and again
Because we're hilarious. Yeah, we are so funny or you just the one joke over
This is the one funny moment in the morning
If we're in some sort of weird groundhog situation, that's how I felt during splits
What day is it?
It's...
Haven't I been here before?
I've only been watching you lose to NA so many times in League.
It's like being a world, you know?
But yeah.
Now we've switched around a little bit.
Who are we watching?
Jinji and he is doing Grim-Petal?
Not Grim-Petal, Siege, right?
That is Siege of Rallis, yep.
There we go, Siege.
You see the...
Here we go at Jinji has he's got the bar. I like this one as well. I like this one as well
I like this one
Like the number of as well. I just want the bar in addition
So just when I quickly glance over I can see like how much time approximately I've left. Yeah, I can vibe with that
I can buy with that. I think having it on the right as well because I have my rate my
Party frames and such on the left
Having information on different points of the screen is better for me because otherwise
I'm covering up too much stuff, but Jinji obviously never has to click on his party frames because
he's a mage and all you had to do is click on the enemy rather than healing anyone.
They would have to click on the ray train if they want to ever dispel like a curse because they
can do that. They can dispel friendly players' curses, but we all know they would never do such
a thing. No, because that's DPS loss. Exactly. Why am I using a GCD to dispel a curse when I
I can be using it for arcane blasts.
It's funny, I recently talked about this,
because I was thinking, so which kind of player,
especially in the plus, like,
is the most like utility, like which class,
like also like Serial Types, like Mages and Moomkins or whatever,
and then I like came up about, like I was talking about Rokes,
and I was thinking, Rokes are so kind of quiet,
and they never hear and complain that much,
other than, you know, not getting a raid spot maybe.
But they have to do so much in Implest, right?
Rogues have so much utility, so many Singletoid stuns and interrupts and whatever.
And I remember there was a time in Mythic Plus where mages were met, basically all the time,
and Rogues met them as well.
And then Rogues were responsible to do all of these things, like, Shroud here, distract
there, like, gay, gouch, and stun, interrupt, kidnap, like, basically interrupting a whole
pack by themselves.
And then the shot caller is going to be like, so, hey, mage, can you sheep this
this map for a second or can you like Dragon's Breath and the mage is like
I'm combusting!
And you're like really like we're asking you to do one utility!
Typical mage players, just entitled. I'm telling you at home as well you know
you ever get into an M+, you better be ready to Dragon's Breath and to
interrupt. It's just unfair. Yeah. Okay mage is of course a little bit
different it's actually interesting because almost always fire is the
dominating spec for mages in and plus in particular in the raids we've seen
different kind of specs but now we see them play arcane in the plus as well
and I know very little about arcane mage I do have to say I know that they're
that they are like these burst windows but other than that I have a very little
knowledge about arcane that is something we are gonna have to talk to
Jordan about right? Yeah Jordan knows a lot about it, mage connoisseur. From what I can
understand it puts out a lot of damage and that seems to be why you want it. There was
something about spell buffering where you could get two spells buffered at the same
time and they kind of reduced that so you can only buff for one extra spell. I was
talking to Jinji about it but he used a lot of words I didn't understand and I didn't
want to seem like I didn't understand and so I was just like yeah Jinji that makes
sense it's gonna reduce your damage by about six percent isn't it Gingy and
just you know rattling off numbers that someone's told me at some point in my
life but for the moment he seems to be doing okay you can see 2.5 million DPS
so far on Chopper Red Hook biggest mechanic on Chopper Red Hook is you
want to avoid that fixate just draw him into the bombs they explode you
get a damage window becomes a lot easier for you to fight and then you are
obviously trying to clear out these cosmic orbs as well I can't remember the
exact name of them that are coming from the aphix and then of course because it's a plus
nine dungeon we also have the Challenger's Parallel I believe it's called it's a completely
new kind of aphix or like a debuff I guess when you do dungeons this happens all of the
time it doesn't rotate from plus seven onwards if you die you get a 15 seconds death penalty
instead of a five seconds death penalty which I personally really dislike this aphix
because I feel like the higher the keys, the more punishing the death already is, so having
more penalty doesn't really make sense, but we'll see how it turns out.
I can understand that. I think if you're balancing in that way, you're kind of trying to push
players into a safer playstyle deliberately, right? It's a, oh, if you're going to pull
a lot of stuff, maybe you pull a couple adds less because you know there's this
huge penalty for you dying but I do get the idea that well it's very punishing to die at a high
end plus anyway right so why are you making even more punishing for us I guess the argument as well
is that you don't have all the extra affixes that you usually would have with the sanguine the
explosive etc right yeah I mean that is true one thing that I'm also like I'm not gonna say I'm
worried about it but I kind of I'm interested to see how it depends out you can raise your
concerns about like not having any rotating affixes at all because I do think
that PBE in particular has very little like variants like it's just always the
same thing right sure and affixes were supposed to like the purpose of affixes
was supposed to be change every week you have something different you're
playing the same dungeon but the affixes changed the way you played
a dungeon right and we've had affixes for so long now though and people have gotten increasingly
mad about affixes being negative and they don't just like it that there's like weeks that are
easier and weeks that are harder which again is fair and then Blizzard finally gave in and said
you know what okay fine if you want no affixes on the high keys we're not going to get affixes
anymore and now plus 12 onwards you're not going to have any changes in affixes anymore
it's all going to be the same thing one thing that I'm wondering about are people going to
get tired of dungeons earlier in the season just because it's always the same
also are they gonna be quote-unquote done progressing the dungeons at some point
like where you just reach a certain level where it's just like okay we've done
this level we tried the next one numerous times and we just can't do it
and there's also just no hope because with aphix you would be like you know
what maybe we can kill it in this week with these aphixes right but now
it's just gonna be like well nothing's gonna change next week we maybe get a
little bit more item level but at some point you also have best luck here and
then that's not gonna be a thing either and then are you just like gonna be done
with it you know and then you just stop playing until next season which to be
fair I wouldn't hate that either yeah sometimes waiting for next season is
fine you can do some other things go outside touch some grass I don't know
I'll be honest I don't think Blizzard want you not playing the game that's
That's the general thought behind this sort of thing.
I think there is an interesting argument for letting something sit to let the meta adapt
around it.
Something we don't see too much in League, but you see a lot in StarCraft is because
there aren't many patches, people discover new stuff and you can discover like, oh well,
we thought C. Gibrales was good with Narcane, but actually if we bring a fire we can
do this thing.
Yeah.
a little bit more flexibility to do that. However, I very much agree with you that after,
I mean, how many months is it before you get a rotation of the dungeons?
Yeah, it's like five months.
Yeah, after five months, I'm going to be bored of doing the same dungeons over and over again,
and I'm like doing low level keys, right? If you're getting to the top level and you
hit a wall within the first couple of months, then what is there for you to change
other than maybe looking at a different comp, maybe switching around to hero talents
little bit to see if there's something you can do there. So finding a way to make it a little bit
more flexible, finding a way to give a bit more creativity over to the players does make a lot
of sense, maybe even rotating the dungeons more often. Instead of just having five months
sit on some, you have say your base four of the ones we've got in War Within and then the other
four rotate every couple of months to give you a little bit more, a few more options to do
things. Yeah, that would be a little bit problematic with this Eastern title because
Because you obviously have this rank 1 seasonal title, right?
Make new titles.
Yeah, you can have multiple, so a season would only last two months, let's say.
Yeah.
And then another season happens after.
You could have two seasons for a patch, right?
I mean, I feel like that's not the worst idea.
And if you get the majority of seasons in a patch, you get a different title.
Super KSM or whatever it is.
Yeah, Super Excel Tough, something like that.
Yeah, it was other stuff.
Or no, Ancerek is patch one, right?
answer x best person you know good job answer x darlings the spider queens i like it i like i'd
love to be a spider queen that would be nice that's a win yeah but i think having more levers to pull
does make sense and as you say affixes is one of those ways that you can adjust the game for
people that allows them just a different experience each time they go in you see things
like Time Walking Dungeons, and they have Story Mode as well. Everyone is, there's many different
ways to experience the game, and I think the worry is, a little bit like with Delves, where
Delves already feel a little bit antiquated in terms of the content. It's like, well,
if you've done the Delves, you've done the Delves, there's nothing to gain out of this,
it's not really changing. You can go and do Zac Fizz Bargain or whatever, but you do that
a couple of times as well, and it's kind of done. And there is always that concern that
you'll get to a high enough key level that it feels like you're just doing the same thing,
week in week out without any variability. Yeah and I wonder like this is set and this makes sense
that the people might figure out like a certain way on how to optimize the dungeon even more if
nothing else changes from the ethics is right so a certain comp or whatever and I wonder if
that's like a good thing or a bad thing when it comes to like community perception of like the
meta because we've had issues in the past where the community will look at what the
high end players do and what they run and then they'll only invite those classes right
And I wonder if, because what we've had before is that that meta would be played in every dungeon, but I personally
Don't think that unless that met that certain comp is like really far ahead
I think if the comps are a little bit closer to each other
Then I do think that playing a different comp per dungeon does make sense because all of the dungeons are very different, right?
Um, I just think that in the past the the teams have not adjusted their comp
just because it's too difficult to change your comp and if the affixes change everything so much from from one week to the next
that that it would be just way too hard to always adjust your composition, right?
So I think they just stuck to one comp and that's it. But now without those affixes changing
it is very possible that the high-end teams decide, you know what, especially now with the war bands
where it's very easy to switch, they might just switch your comp a little bit, like play a different tank, maybe play Guardian and
Preservation Voker and the next time they're gonna play Olga Voker and
rest of Druid plus a different tank or whatever right like that's all possible
and then I wonder if that's like has a good effect on the rest of the community
or not and I think it's good if the top teams like switch comes more
it means I think it's probably better because there's more variety in
yeah and people are less likely to say you need the god comp I didn't experience
like the god comp meta but I know that has been an issue over the last
few years right where you have to play this otherwise you're kind of doomed at high
and keys. Um, it does, I mean, there are issues on either side, right? There's the issue with
player retention. There's the issue of the trickle down of top level comps. There's the
issue of, well, is it actually enjoyable to have to spend, you know, hours on hours looking
at spreadsheets trying to work out if this damage profile is better than this damage
profile. Uh, but we'll see, we'll see how it goes over the next few months. We'll
see if anything does change up at the moment. We are seeing siege of Baralas coming
out from Jinji, coming at 15 minutes out of, well, they'd like to clear it in under 18,
but I don't think that's going to happen. They're still having Hidal and Vik Goff left
to go.
I hate that last boss.
Why?
I don't know, it's just like you're fighting tentacles and fighting adds instead of the
actual boss and then...
True, but then you fire cannons at it, you know?
That's true.
That's true, but I wanted to say something about like this like trickle-down effect
Because that happens in League a lot or at least when I played that happened a lot
I wonder if it's still a thing or the people now realize. Oh, just because it played in like kind of pro
It's not actually gonna be good for my bronze game, right? It does still happen
But I think there's a the meta is a little bit more flexible now
So like you see ad carries in top lane you see these things and it might be also the level I'm playing at right because I play
Mid to low master and so a lot of the time if I see someone who isn't obviously trolling like if it's not a nunu with
Ghost cleanse or something I kind of give people the benefit that because I'm like well
I just saw Vayne top win in the LCK. I saw Zerri mid win here. It's like, okay cool
You play what you want to play and the matter isn't as defined as it used to be
However, there are still picks that you're like either pick this or ban this and so if people don't do that
There is a bit of toxicity and I think at lower levels as well
People just get really annoyed when they're about to rank up and they're like why are you playing this off meta pick in my
Diamond for game. I need this to stay in diamond or why are you doing this in plat one?
But yeah, that trickle down definitely happens
And if a big streamer says this champ is troll why are you picking this champ? You will see that happen in games
Yeah, that is interesting. Because I do remember, I mean this is a long time ago, right? Like when Zed, for example, came out and we saw Faker and some other mid laner have like this 1v1.
Oh, Faker vs Riu, what was that? Yeah, exactly, yeah. And everyone started playing Zed and it was like some low, like really low ranked game.
We must have been like, I don't know silver or gold or whatever and everyone just picks that and I'm like why?
Because you see them play and they like obviously don't know what they're doing
And they can just pick like a super easy champ and do so much better. Yeah, I guess in lower
League lower rank games people don't know how to deal with Garen for example like I'm just like spins around
I was like what do I do? What do I do? I'm just gonna die. So I was like just pick that. I don't want to tell you this
but Garen's actually proviable right now.
Really?
Yeah, Garen Nasus is like a mid lane 1v1.
It's really funny.
It's so funny.
Yeah, Garen's been strong for a really long time,
but pros have kind of just been like,
well, if we slow him,
he can't get close enough to us,
so maybe we can deal with him,
but he's really powerful right now.
The best bit about the Faker vs Ryo 1v1
is there are so many misplays in that clip.
It's an iconic clip.
Amazing play from Faker.
Great for the time,
but if you look back at it,
They, Faker wins the 1v1, he then walks under the Nexus towers and dies immediately afterwards.
Both of the Shens in the game had their ultimates available and neither of them used them in the fight either.
And it's just like, if this happened in my like, in a master game right now, in a Plat game...
It wasn't actually like a ranked game, right? Because it was...
It was a pro game.
No, it was set versus set. You can't play set versus set.
Oh, LCK Game 5 used to be blind pick.
No, it wasn't just like a fun game?
No, it was a pro. It was a top level game five pro game. Yeah, I thought it was like some fun
Really no, and it's
Career it was like top tier pro level game one of the biggest iconic plays
Interesting, but yeah, so many misplays in it and it's really funny looking back at it because
The players of that time and yeah, here we are
Here we are a faker going in for the 1v1. We're gonna see him trade in the mid lane
right? And then you see me with space afterwards. And then Faker just walks down mid lane dies
and SKTT wants to win the fight in the end, but the Shens had their ultimates, didn't
use them till afterwards, Impact still has his ultimates, he was just like, trust it that
Faker wouldn't die. Faker, I think dies now under that mid lane turret. Anyway, great
plays, great moments, it was a-
I felt like you just ruined this for me.
What, there was a pro game or?
No, they didn't play perfectly.
I mean, but no one ever plays it perfectly and this is the great thing about like e-sports history
Is it's about overcoming in the moment, right?
Like there are so many misplays all the time and this chase for perfection really hampers good, right?
Like you can really enjoy a series you can really enjoy race to world first when people make mistakes
In fact, it's even better if they do because it shows people are human. We're not watching robots play the game
We're watching people who have these mistakes who have been up for I don't know
up at 5 a.m. for the last four days in a row trying to grind out hero exploits, you know?
Yeah, it is very interesting, right? Because one thing that I get asked a lot is the difficulty of
like raid bosses in WoW, right? Like when people say, oh, what was harder? Like this boss or this
new boss, right? This old boss or this new boss? And I will always say, okay, of course the
the new bosses harder. Does that mean that it was easier to get world first like 10 years ago?
No. And yeah, there's no because back then it was difficult just for that time, right? Of course,
if you take Echo the way it is now and you put them back 10 years and you let them compete
in that race well first, they would absolutely like blow it out of the water and win like
they would kill a boss a week before all of the other guilds, right? But that's just not how
worked back then right so you always it's just the same in sports right if you
look at any kind of sports gymnast or whatever like it's insane how much
better they are now compared to what you've seen before sometimes it's funny
to watch like older Olympics where they do some sort of like routine and they're
like yeah I can do this I mean I was like doing this okay it's kind of
interesting yeah yeah but that sort of evolution of skill is it's really
interesting because there's a big playing league and that is the example I always use called the
insect, right, which is on Lee Sin, you sonic wave to someone, you jump to them with your cue,
you dash behind them with a ward and then you kick them back into your team and when it was done
it was debated as to whether it was even humanly possible. It was this huge thing, we named a
play after this player because of how revolutionary it was and now if I go into a silver game
and someone does an insect. I'm like, cool? Yeah, I mean you're playing. That's cool, but like that is,
it has been made easier because the mechanics of the game are slightly easier now,
but the overall skill level of any sort of gamer now compared to 10 years ago is just
magnitudes better. And it's the same for Race War First. It's also the infrastructure, right? If
10 years ago you told any of these Echo players, hey, we're gonna have a private chef, you're
gonna have a hotel right next to the venue, you'll have a great PC, we'll have all these
We call a setup for you. You can come in, Red Bull, we've provided you know everything's available to you
I'm sure they would have they've been your handoff
Yeah, it's just watching the evolution is amazing. I think sometimes
even I get like lost in the
Perfect is the enemy of good, you know, you're chasing perfection. You're annoyed when people make mistakes
It's like why can't you do perfect macro? Why can't you play the boss perfectly?
Why are you getting caught with the tank buster?
But you forget that it's this massive challenge these players are undertaking and
Enjoying the moments of the challenge is really important
Mythic plus though is boring!
Get him to have mythic raids! I've seen two poles!
Two poles!
Right, because he was his birthday, how do you not do mythic for him?
Like look at Mirus, he wants to pull over next. Like look at him. He's desperate to get his birthday wipes in to route
you want us to get hit by that boss so badly.
Ah, I love some birthday wipes.
And what does he have to do here? He needs to get hit by tentacles instead.
It's just disgusting really isn't it?
Unbelievable.
Yeah, not too complicated boss this one.
Basically you want to get rid of those putrid waters.
You have to dispel them but you don't want anyone in the circle when the dispel comes out.
You always kill the tentacle if there isn't the gripping tentacle.
I can't remember the other name of the tentacle first.
Demolishing it.
Demolishing it.
Always kill the demolishing tentacle first.
Then kill the gripping tentacle.
Then jump in the cannon.
Shoot the cannon at the octopus.
Right in its mouth reminds me of the uh...
Oh, what's it called?
The monster outside of uh...
I was like there must be something bad coming out.
Lord of the Rings.
Shoot it right in his mouth.
That reminds me of something.
It's the monster in Lord of the Rings outside of the mountain, Moria.
Deep Horrors? That one is cool, Sam? Thank you.
Yeah, when Legolas shoots it and they go into the mountain, Moria says,
I think it will take the mines!
And they say, these are no mines! They're a tomb!
Do you play Dungeons and Dragons?
No, but I'd love to.
Okay.
Yeah, I've tried a couple of times, but it's very hard to organize.
Yes.
Because of schedules, you know?
Mm-hmm.
I was watching the deep. Thank you, Sam
But yeah, we play magic magic the gallery is the at least he cast this game of choice
I wonder if actually because I really like harsh that I probably do like magic to you. Yeah
It's it's a big investment to learn
That's the problem. Yeah, yeah, then recently just picked up harsh and again after not playing it for years and
It was overwhelming. Yeah, like also like one thing again evolution of games, right?
Like I looked at the cards like what's going on like each card had like ten effects on it
Yeah, and in the past it was like maybe two
People know all of these cards and what they do, but it's just you pick it up to go along right like it's like if I
When I tried to learn the specs in wow
I was I can learn three of these in an okay amount of depth and everything else is just on top of it
But if I asked you what does a demon hunter do you could probably give me a good basic description of everything a demon hunter does
because you've just been in the game so long, right?
It's also funny because I do think in WoW in general,
classes are a lot more complex than, let's say,
in Hearthstone, like another.
Oh, sure.
Yeah, and also the problem in, if you play PvE in WoW,
the amount of knowledge you need about that class
actually very slim.
Like you just need to know what kind of utility they
can do, because they'll help you out in a lane plus dungeon.
But you don't need to know how the rotation works,
because that's not really going to help you.
And that's your play PvP.
And it's funny because if you're a really good PvE player and you think like I've been playing this game since vanilla
I'm a caster like I know a lot about this game, right?
But whenever I play PvP
I'm like, it's just a world of work
What are these mechanics? What is happening?
That is crazy to me that I've been playing this game for so long
There's still aspects of the game where it's like I'm clueless about like I feel like a new player
Oh, let's see what secrets we can uncover.
Just don't take all my loot, please.
Roger, stretch your trove.
I didn't do one of these before.
You have it?
Do you want it?
You can lead.
That's my first treasure trove.
I mean, you have to lead, because I don't know how it works.
Oh, you don't know at all how it works?
No.
Didn't read the castle brief.
Can you believe it?
OK, I do know a little bit how it works.
OK, do you want to try it?
I'll fill in the gaps.
No, I just wanted you to do it like, oh my god,
you would have never done this before like this, you know?
Yeah, but if you've never done it,
then you should feel empowered to do it.
I don't want to take your thunder away from you.
I definitely want you to do it.
You want me to take the thunder?
Okay, I'm going to take that thunder.
Roger's treasure trove is now open.
That's not a word.
Roger's treasure trove is now open.
You can contribute with treasure points.
If you click on the little treasure icon
next to the chat box at the bottom or on the number,
you can scroll down
and there's a bunch of different trinkets
you can put into the treasure trove.
It's the only way you can spend channel points
and you have the chance to win one of these
Wonderful prizes. We have giveaways from NordVPN, Corsa, Elgato, Displate. We have Echo Merch. We have mounts. We have Heroic Editions of the Wall within.
We have a bunch of different things you guys can steal away from Roger in his treasure trove. And here are all the options you have to contribute your channel points.
Yeah, so as I was thinking, like as you said, you can contribute. I got all excited. I was like, oh, I should contribute. And then I realized, okay, that's probably not a good idea.
Like if I win the giveaway, you don't win from contributing you win from typing exclamation mark
Also, you're not logged into Twitch on this
The 1 million point jackpot we will pick one of the envelopes behind us there will be a poll
in chat, not an exclamation mark. You don't have to type anything. You just vote in the poll for
whether you want Team Spiders or Team Crab to be the envelope we select. And then after we revealed
what the prize is, then, and only then can you type exclamation marks into the chat with whichever
side we are on. If you type more than once, there is a possibility you'll get timed out. And
it's, I mean, I'm just going to say it's possible you won't be counted. W, if you type
Once you have a higher chance of winning, actually.
Mods?
Ban this woman.
I'm sorry.
Kick her out. Exclamation mark Bs is what you want to type.
They'll give you great information on how to start a B farm in your local area.
They do.
That's a great little snippet that they put out.
Natty, I think was the original person.
Natty the mod.
The original person who did that for us.
I love that.
Do you want to add in any thunder of your own?
You guys need thunder to bring?
I mean, I'm just, like, I'm just surprised that so many people this early are already
here and giving so much thunder and contributing.
Like, this is incredible.
Yeah.
Like, thanks guys.
And good morning.
I hope you're all ready and excited to see Brutuister very soon.
If you feel this far, we're going to go and do mythic Brutuister.
Oh, I knew it was coming.
We're going to do it.
us too. We'll just run and we'll get their lockout. We'll run up to the bus, we'll die
immediately and then we'll leave. Yeah. See, it's working. It's working. It's true. Yeah.
100% that next 52,000 is going to come in liquidy split for us to do mythic brew twister.
Do you want to beat a tank? No, you're good. You have to be a tank. Okay, I'm tanking.
I'll be devil. That's going to help. I mean, that's what Liquid brought on
They did switch back over to Org, I don't know if we mentioned that earlier today, the devs that they had in that intro to it.
They have a lot of evokers, like they play like, I don't know if it's like triple preservation and double Org or something, but I think they have five evokers.
That makes sense, double Org is very strong right now. We should finish out that last 10,000 points on Roger's treasure trove giveaway.
I love the Photoshop of Roger there. It's beautiful.
It's not a Photoshop, it's just really pretty.
Alright, now in the poll you can vote for Team Crab or Team Spider. I feel like the font has changed from yesterday.
Can we just get the spider, please? Guys, I really want the spider.
It's prettier. I like the carrot.
How many there are left? Because I think there's less left in Spider now than there while in Crab.
There's so many. Are we actually counting all of them?
Yeah.
Alright.
This is great content, guys.
We're counting.
Okay. I know how many I have. Oh, use the poll. Don't type
the exclamation mark! You fools! I'm actually really disappointed in you, Chair. I thought
we were having a great little lesson on how to do voting for Roger's treasure trove.
And instead, what's happened is you've all written the exclamation marks in, and now
I'm going to get a bad grade on my off-com report. And I was really hoping for a raise
this year as your teacher. 32. 32. 35 in here. So here are the thoughts on that, right?
I was part of the group that put all of these into the envelopes. We deliberately equally
spread the prizes between the two of them. So if you think there'd been good prizes so far,
do you go for Team Spider where you've taken some more of the good prizes out,
or do you go for Team Crab because there's more good prizes in?
Well, I would have to know statistics here because what if the good prices all came from
the craps even if there's less of them.
That's true.
I'm sure someone's been tracking at home.
Yeah.
You know?
I haven't tracked that at all.
And at least like there's a wall.
Yeah.
A spider.
Spider here.
Crab here.
Putting the string across.
It's actually all run by Sam.
Oh, come on.
Great answer.
Oh.
I think Team Spiders.
I think Team Spry is doing it again.
We did that because there's going to be a mythic boost as well right?
There is one mythic boost in one of these envelopes and I know exactly which one it
is.
Spider one.
Spider one.
Here should I fan a map view and you get to pick?
Yes.
Am I just going to get the mythic boost now like it's happening?
What if I want to shut the mythic boost?
If you want to shut the mythic boost I think Sam will be angry at you but it's
still possible.
It's entirely random.
Here we go.
Oh, what's it gonna be?
We should learn, like, um,
card tricks.
Oh, I did some magic during here.
Yeah, here, I can show you.
Do you want to do, are you gonna keep that card aside?
Here we are. Yeah, I mean, this is the one.
So, here,
as you can see, deck of cards, right?
Yeah. We'll shuffle them up.
Pick a card, any card.
Okay, show it to the audience.
I'll look away. I'll show it.
They've seen it.
Wait.
Did you see it?
They saw it?
Put it back in?
Yeah.
Okay.
We'll shuffle it up again.
You ready?
It didn't look.
I didn't look.
I didn't look.
I didn't look.
I'm reading your mind.
I'm just not telling you which one it is, okay?
Is this your car?
How did you do it?
Magic, right?
Truly stunning.
Wow.
What did you learn this?
Wow.
It's something you learned in Mexico.
Wow.
Unbelievable.
not bad about anyway. I'm gonna have to open this right? Yes, you can open it and then
you tell us what the prize is and then we will have a vote, an exclamation mark and
chat in a second. I don't know if you could tell by my reaction. It is not the minute.
You doomed us. But it is a mischief pet. A mischief pet. Let's go. Are you a big pet,
Kweister? Absolutely not. Okay. No, am I? No. I got one pet called Squally, and that's
the name of one of my mods. And so I picked that that pet forever. Exclamation mark spider
in chat to win that mischief pet. Feels like the kind of it's a fitting pet for mythic
pluses you know it feels like that sort of time in the day because some people
want to mount but when you're doing mythic plus you just want a pet to follow
you around yeah I like my I had a new pet that I got from the new
expansion it's like a title spider very similar to this one
I'm not creative with names. Are you creative with names?
No I name everything. It depends. So if it's something that I think is going to suffer.
When I just now realized your name is Medics. Like how creative are your names Medics?
I guess the answer is no.
Okay, my first name was Crackfox, but apparently you can't cast with the name Crackfox, so yeah,
yeah. Apparently you're not allowed to cast with it. Yeah, if I'm naming something I think
it's going to suffer, I tend to use Bedi, yes. And then if it's anything else, it's just another
LEC cast almost at the time. Love that. Yeah. What about you? I should start doing that from now on.
Oh, just LEC cast? It's just shocks and this is lore.
No, uh, so I'm actually, all of my names are basically just Negura and then like name of
class. You know, it's like Negura Priest. Yeah. Negura where it was pretty boring.
I do have one really creative name and it's my warlock and my warlock's called
Nagani, okay, cuz it's affliction and the spell
Agony spell is Agony. Yeah, that's a girl. I like that. That's pretty cool. But I
Absolutely came up with that myself absolutely nobody
Came up with that name instead of me. Yeah, I believe you certainly not just steal that
Yeah, my
Wow, IGNs are not medic maybe medic perhaps medic possibly medic
I think I was having Metimage because I was trying to be a mage
Yeah, I I think I took medic cast ages ago because medic cast is just like my usual IGN in places
And then I've never deleted the character. So every time I try and type in medic cast like medic cast can't be taken
Whatever not medic
And then if someone asked me I can just be like yeah, it's not medic
If I'm in sync it doesn't matter. No, not medic
My droid is actually called magurore
Okay, Nagura, Naguro. After the Katy Perry song. Exactly. Also, it's the Eye of the Tiger. Naguro.
We're gonna get copyright strike. Please stop. Oh yes, I have so one point. The system's gonna pick it up.
Oh, because I'm a droid, you know? Like, Rory? It's like a cat, you know? It's like,
Yeah, makes sense.
Personally, I'm not quite sure that pun works.
I do see where the $10 donation come in.
I didn't know if you want to gather up. It's on the Chrome browser, not on the Totify thing.
You just scroll up from the bottom, just swipe up. There we go.
Yep, big swipe.
Go to Chrome.
I have some issues handling an iPad, so...
Yep, and then you can press refresh I will thank you. Yeah, there we go
No, no, are you looking?
Yeah, I'm discord click on the discord one
Hopefully this works Sam told me it would
Sam's gonna cry if it doesn't work. Oh, is it working? It is loading. Oh
Yeah
Oh, there we are. We're in. Anything without a tick should be ready to read.
Okay, I kind of don't want to read this comment. I feel like you just did a bad pun and I don't want
you to have a compliment, so... That's understandable. Just say who it was.
You didn't get a $10 donation by Sine. I'm not sure I'm probably not pronouncing this correctly.
It's S-C-I-I-N, how would you pronounce that?
S-C-I-I-N. I'd probably say sin.
Sin, yeah.
I could see sin as well.
Thank you so much for your nation, that is very kind of you.
Thank you so much, very much.
Appreciate it.
And they're saying, Dear Medic, thank you for joining this race, you are the best.
That's very kind of you, sin, sin.
That's very kind.
Thank you so much for the money.
I can't believe you get a compliment and then you pronounce their name wrong.
Well, I don't know which way it is!
All the money obviously going to gain some love, quick distract from the fact that
I'm bad at my job.
I
Here's the problem right in league we have all these weird names, so there's this jungler from the CIS region who was a
HAA H
CIK or something along those lines, but it was severe cages so it's actually an M
So we called him a ha ha sick and it was actually an an arctic and then there's a top laner for T1
Whose name is Zeus but doesn't want to pronounce Zeus. It's Zeus
for some reason. What is this? How am I gonna do this? It sounds good though, Zaeus. Zaeus
does sound good. There's also Alvaro who apparently we call him Alvaro because that's
how you intonate it in English but his name is Alvaro. All of these things. Intonation
is difficult. Intonation is hard. So thank you very much. In Zaeus for that $10
I think that was the correct one, yeah, that's the one.
Or SCIEN.
Because it's SCIENCE and then IN.
SCIEN.
Yeah, nice.
Good job.
Thank you very much.
Or SKIN.
Or SCIEN.
It's too many options.
Maybe it's just BOP.
That's the real name and now you've just doxed them in front of everyone.
Oh, no, please stop.
stop this is so funny because I'm rating like my guild has a healer and their in-game name is
Bob Tastic okay right and then yesterday we were rating and at some point someone was like so Bob
blah blah they were talking they were talking and then he was like so like Bob is your real name
right and then he started laughing and he's like no Bob stop my real name what would have been my
I would have your it's like well your character stuff up testing like how's that and then he was like
Bump isn't a real name like that's just a made-up name. No one's called Bob
No one is called Bob
parents
The fictional characters a build out there's no such thing as a build
Yeah, can he fix it the theme song for Bob the Builder is actually about whether he can fix his name to a real name
Bob the building can't change his name
That was very nice of sin time skin
Bop
Bop
Peter
No, it's this one
Uh, Mythic Blast of Armin continues amongst our raiders
And what might continue for me is the need to go to the bathroom
So is there any chance that we could listen in with Wave
While I quickly
Add you to the loo
I got a- I got a food
I got a demon of the loo
He's triggered
He does not need
Holy fuck
What rest did you wait what rest did we get?
Hey sir, I can take them
I have R-Carra
We got missed again. We have pretty good keys
I give you this one's Mike. Yeah, it's just a 15 crest
I take it. I have 690 watts. But let's go on quick break
Yeah, let's eat and then okay
How long have we got?
Oh, we got 9 missed, 12 are caught and 9 are caught
Yeah, we have 3 really good keys lined up
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, we got 9 are caught into the 10
9 warm up into 10 really good
Okay
Small breakfast break, yeah
Do Canaxe come to Jank the penguin on the...
...arcade, okay?
I'll be back up in Mali.
Come to the fuse, Canaxe, one of them.
Canaxe.
What?
What are we seeing?
Four of the penguin, get out of the middle.
Canaxe.
What are you saying?
That's four million.
Oh, they're click ones, right?
Four million damage, that's actually unreal.
Penguin click?
Yeah.
What?
Which is the other side of you?
The thing?
The work is too thick.
The other side.
Up everything?
I have no time to kick.
I must fucking die here.
That doesn't make any sense. I was loosed.
I go to the other side of you.
There's no fucking way.
Bugger this shit thing.
I need the extreme assistance here.
I'm in here.
That's the cast this time, on a man by the speaker.
And on top.
Are we killing this?
When you counter things you might as well do this.
Alderheel on orange.
Very purple.
Holy.
Where we are here at the SK Magenta Facility.
It's me and Nagura on the couches for now.
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Max Troll and Red Bull pairing up all of our gamers over this mythic prog which
we are not seeing right now because the players have decided M plus is the way
to go in fact I think it's probably scraped it's decided then yeah I'm
starting to get this feeling that Scrap just hates mythic rating yeah I think it
us. You want to do as little of it as possible. It's like golf.
Maybe you just develop the hate of it because he can't play
anymore. Yeah. So he's just like, I can't play, you guys can't
play either. Yeah. Well, we don't realize it's Roger Bounds
being really kind to all of us. But he's actually whispering
inscribes here every now and again. It's still about
missing plus. We're about to reset. We need to do doubts.
What whole we are here at some point they'll start
having transmogs like. Oh yes and speaking of transmogs if you want us to review your
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What's ticking?
Well, I would like chat to pick,
but we can only do a two vote poll.
So I think the casters will get it down to the top two.
And then we'll let chat vote.
And maybe end of today?
End of today?
End of today sounds like a plan.
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Give us a little description of it.
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I'm not sure if it still works, but I think it does. But if you take a screenshot and wow,
it will save it to this like, in the wow folder on your PC, there's like a screenshot folder,
and it will save it there. And I rarely ever take screenshots in a while. Sure. But sometimes
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Make sure you donate ten dollars and send that screen to it in and definitely also explain why it's a cool screenshot
Yeah, and we've already hit our first two charity goal incentives
We have the low wave music track coming out
That's a wipe or some sort of variation on it that they will be making for us with clips of the raiders
talking about how it they've wiped on a boss and then also Geith is going to be
getting made up we think in Xalatath yeah Xaladgeith Xaladgeith at some point
hopefully today definitely in the next couple of days depending on how long it
takes us to get enough purple makeup I guess we're getting purple makeup and
we're definitely also braiding his beard yes yes you have that whole Viking
sort of aesthetic yes he's got a magnificent beard does that man
I actually have these like rings or these jewelry that they put in your hair usually, like in your braids.
I have some of those here.
You could definitely put it in his beard, 100%.
Rings of that.
Yeah, for now though, the raiders are doing Mythic Pulse, which is interesting.
Like, Mythic Pulse is very fun to watch and enjoyable. It's not Mythic Raids.
Likely, I see at any moment they could go into Mythic Pulse is the problem, right?
I want to say after lunch, I expect Mythic Pulse,
But we saw like four this morning that we weren't expecting to see at all
So you never know when Scribe's gonna say, okay, we got the trinket we're looking for we got the thing
We're looking for at the moment. This is stone vault. It looks like with them on the final boss
You want to I pronounce his name. Is it iric? I Rick. Yeah E I R I C H I rich
Yes, I mean it could be German. Yeah, it's Irish. It could be could be English and then be iric
But the thing is I actually did an official Warcraft guide for Stone Vault on the Warcraft
Channel and the way it works, I'm just writing the script and I'm just recording it, no one's
telling me what to do, so I can actually determine what this boss is called, I can literally
just make it up and then when someone says that's not how you pronounce it, well look
at the Warcraft Channel.
Obviously, it's how you pronounce it.
It wouldn't go on the internet until lies like that.
The mechanics I saw, usually you want to stack the pools a little bit more than they're doing right now.
Obviously, as long as you have space in the middle to fight Irak, it's fine.
You get these debuffs on you that you then run over to the void portals and get rid of them
and then the void portals will move around, meaning you want that space to be able to maneuver.
But I've recorded down to 8% 9% HP. I don't think it's gonna be too much of a struggle on this
Plus 9 key from oh, I say that thanks dead
Canex, there you go. They can do it still
Yeah, they got this. Yeah
My name is the plus 9. This is gonna be giving them hero check loot not the maximum that would be the 10, but
very close to it for sure
What are we looting? Gold. Oh. I see anything. No loot. Nothing. Wow. It's going again.
Every time it's no loot we know another one's going to happen. Back to Siege of Buralis
with the chopper here on the hook is, I think it's Wex who is currently being tied
pulling me into the bombs and yeah a relatively simple first boss of an M plus you just when the
fixates on you you slowly kite him get him towards the bombs I say that Velo just died got a little bit
too close to that axe. Yeah so again we've been talking about this number of times but yeah they're
doing in plus because they're trying oh they might actually like him but they're doing in plus because
because they want to gear up their characters, mainly trinkets that they want that they cannot get from the raids
I just saw fellow BBR and then immediately died again
Yeah, that's the one, Kersh is like, come on guys, please don't die immediately afterwards, what are you doing?
Yeah, so you were saying?
Yeah, like they're obviously doing like a million spot brands and they get all of the gear that they possibly could wear in the heroic raids
But there's just some stuff that does not drop there, like for example dungeon trinkets,
and some classes just have their bust slot trinkets in the dungeons, and then there's some
other slots that they maybe didn't get from the heroic raid, that they want to fill up
in those dungeons, so they're just trying to get the last couple of item levels that
they need to be at the same item level as Liquid is in right now.
I did quickly check in on Liquid as well, because of course that is a race, and
Liquid of course being a hat they are, they did start a little bit earlier because
with the NA reset and they've already done those mythic pluses before previously and now they are on
Brute Twister. Their best pull I can see is 23.8%. They had 78 pulls already which is kind of a lot,
like we definitely did not expect this boss to last that long. I think most of us were pretty
surprised by that and they're running a very interesting comp as well on Brute Twister.
So they were running like 5 evokers, 3 preservation and 2 auger evokers I believe, they're also
running like an elemental shaman interestingly enough, they run 102 frosty case and yeah
they're currently like progressing on that third phase where like the third canister
is empowering all of the adds and that is something that Echo will be getting to
whenever they have that item level and one thing to note as well for Echo like some
Some people are always like, oh my god, like who's gonna kill that guy, don't you wanna
like go in there as well?
Aren't you scared or whatever?
But it's only the kill of the last boss that actually determines who wins the race and
letting the other guild go first on some of these bosses is actually just like a very
smart idea because why quote unquote waste your time on figuring out certain things
when you don't have to like, if you have to farm gear anyway, like if they would
be doing these and plus dungeons at some point during this week anyway, then why
why not do it at the start and put the pressure on the other guild because of
course like with having the reset first their reset also ends first so they are
the ones that have to get things done quicker and I could can just sit back
for now and be like you know what we're just gonna get all these chores out of
the way gonna see what you guys are doing and then we're gonna save some
time because we're not gonna make the same mistakes you did because we saw
the mistakes and we're not gonna repeat them. It's also a very typical
mentality of let's get everything we can let's get all of the juice out of the
line before we actually go in get all of those eye levels get all of the
trinkets we want also farming balustones now as well if you are looking for those
upgrades you know along the hero track along the mythic track it makes it
easier for you when you get to those bosses like if a boss dies in one kill
instead of two kills we saw how close they were on bloodbound horror the
other day where it was five percent and only mirrors left alive right if you
can make that a little bit easier for you if you can make trash a little
bit easier you are saving time in the long run. It's not always the most exciting way
to watch because you kind of have front-loaded or back-loaded excitement in
times of the mythic pools but I will also say often they decide to do things
like this in the morning because people are still waking up a little bit right
and Sam has decided to schedule me on all the morning shifts which means
means that I am also waking up as we watch the N pluses, you know? Thank you, Sam.
I didn't want to say that, I think, so it looks like, I don't know what I'm saying,
I'm sure it's certain, but it looks like Liquid is going to go to bad night, it's
really late for them. Of course, a pretty big time difference here, as they are, yes,
it's midnight I think. Yes, obviously they are on the west coast. Whenever I
I do west and east, because the north and south is like easy to me right?
Left and right and west and east are actually somewhat difficult
and I always have to do the game where I...
What's the game?
Oh you don't know, like you don't have like a saying or like a sentence
Oh yeah, never eat shredded wheat
Oh okay, I have the German one
Okay
That me on a Seifer waschen
What's Seifer?
That soap
Okay, don't wash with that soap
Yeah
and I would have to do it to figure out the west but then it's always the last one so it's like
they are in the west coast yeah that makes sense i'll be honest americans just like a big blob
yeah you get flown there and it's like does it take an extra hour does it take an extra two
hours depending on where you fly yeah but nine hours difference right between us and a liquid so
huge time difference midnight for them they're about to they're heading to bed they're gonna
maybe do some offline quick super secret shenanigans who knows like most most of all first two
guilds do at the end of the day and then they're gone which means that I always feel like whenever
like the other guild goes to sleep it like gives you this like kind of like relief yes I feel like
right because you know they're not going to be doing anything crazy and they're not going to
be progressing for a while so it's like the ball is in your court I guess yeah you have all
the emphasis on you but there's also more pressure on you right because if Echo gets to the end of today
and they haven't progressed through Twister obviously as you say Last Boss is all that's important
but Liquid will wake up and be like we're at 24% and Echo is still at 75 or whatever their last
pull was I can't remember the exact number so it wasn't 75 must have been higher because otherwise
it would show on our wonderful overlay on the right foot to us with the use of Warcraft
Logs obviously they could have gone competitive mode or non-competitive mode where you don't track the pools
I thought about that yesterday
But we'll see my expectation still is that we will have at least a few mythic pools today
I think that's the hope of everyone watching as well
And the hope of everyone watching is to see some cool cats some transmogs
Maybe some World Warcraft screenshots some 7 TV emotes
This is your opportunity chat you get the chance to possibly add a cooler mode to echo esports channel
We've already had Blilatath, we've had Blilatath, these are the good ones, we have Medic Greggs, we've got Preach Hot Dog, a lot of these are very fun, you know?
Alex Cake, I think it is, or Fat Boss Cake, I can't remember what the Alex one is.
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Wowhead?
There's a chrome tab with Tim to find out.
It is a chrome app, you know what we're going to do.
At the open apps, yeah, I left my how-to-use-i-pads-for-davis book in Sweden, unfortunately.
Did you find it?
I got it!
Okay.
Okay.
No new donations, unfortunately.
Wow, you really don't want us to see your screenshots?
I think you have to press the refresh button.
I remember this being at 4755. I don't remember 65, but maybe I'm incorrect.
It does often happen that I'm incorrect. There is a donation. Oh is there?
I thought you said there were no new ones. It literally just happened right now.
It happened a second and 23 minutes ago. There's no way that happened 23 minutes ago.
Definitely just happened for us. Yeah, thank you so much for Marion Gaming. Thank you.
I'm sure they're still here because they just donated a second ago, so thank you so much.
They donate $10, thank you so much, I appreciate that, and they're commenting...
I should probably read it first, if I read that last.
Yeah, I do that with the names as well.
Oh yeah.
Love the energy of you guys, wish I had time to get involved in the race until first,
but life happened. Love you guys, keep up the good work, readings from the Netherlands.
Thank you so much, Mary, for reaching back to you from Cologne. That's where we are.
That's exactly where we are.
that you can put on.
What's your favorite fragrance that you put on?
Oh, that I put on. I use...
Oh, what is it? It's...
I can tell you what the bottle looks like.
I'm really going to help much.
Please tell me what the bottle looks like. Now I'm very interested.
It's a rectangle.
And it has like a white edge pattern on the front.
And then it's got a little silver top.
Silver top? Press it?
Yeah, it's got that.
I also have the pack of a band one the gold one that everyone has oh yeah yeah
million or something but I like the other I think it's you your boss I don't
often use cologne I'm gonna be honest yeah me neither yeah one of the joys of
working in TV yeah it's sort of no one can smell me but well I mean I can't
Oh wow
And I didn't want to tell you like, but
Should I go?
Do you think they had good cologne in cologne?
Do you think that's a thing?
I honestly don't think that that's like a thing
Like they should market it
Like why isn't like every second shop a cologne shop
Maybe one person cornered the market early
And then everyone was like nah
Probably
Not with the puns now
We have colch
Why do we need...
Why do you need cologne?
To give you tiny little beers
To be fair, in German, it's not the same
It's like an English pun, another German pun
It's not even cologne
Yeah, it's Cologne
Cologne does not mean perfume at all
What is perfume in German?
Perfume
Perfume?
Rename the city, I agree
We're in Perfume
Perfume?
film can you tell we were up at about 5 30 this morning I think we've gone to that
point where it's pretty obvious that's what was happening like I was trying to
actually make a point earlier but then I got distracted by the whole cologne
for firm thing what was the point I am a million gaming thank you so much for
the donation to games of love incredible charity raises money for
distraction therapy for children in hospitals who are suffering and for
internships and scholarships for those same kids in STEM fields. It's a great
charity, it does a huge amount of great work. I know a lot of people have talked
about how powerful it is and how helpful it is to have that ability when
you are in... often you're in hospital for months at a time when you have a
chronic illness and having just a like an outlet, a release where you can
Express yourself it is very powerful. I actually think there's a
Documentary coming out about a child with chronic illness who played world of Warcraft a lot. Oh, yeah
I've seen it advertised a couple of times on Twitter, but I can't remember what it's called
I'm sure one of our production stuff will be able to find out about it and not tell me
Or tell me if they wish really mind which way you want to go about it
Can we look up trinkets because we've seen mists and we've seen seizure Braalus a couple of times today
and it definitely feels like they are farming something in particular here for the raid.
Oh, spyglass, yeah, that makes sense.
We do love a bit of a spy, and we have the Spymaster's web, we're looking for the spyglass trinket
as well.
True.
That's what we do on the liquid streams as well, just, you know, echo fully going
into that rogue mentality.
It's funny because sometimes people get a little bit upset about the whole stealing strategies, right?
Like, oh, can't you come up with the whole thing? Why do you steal?
And the thing is, I mean, like the race rule first is not quiet.
Like it's not an official tournament obviously, it's a community-based tournament, and there are no, like, the only rule is, like, whichever guild kills the boss first wins.
That's the rule. There's nothing else.
Blizzard is not involved, contrary to some people's beliefs.
Blizzard is not actually doing anything officially.
Of course, they are in the background making sure that the boss starts tuning,
and if they try to fix it as fast as possible and so on.
But there's no such thing as being as fair as possible.
In fact, it's pretty far from being fair.
The reset is different.
It has different kinds of impact on both the guild style. Some people say that having to reset first is only an advantage
And it's not actually true. There are some things that are an advantage for their guilds
And it's that. It's the fact that they have to, at some point, pull the bosses before Akko does
And they're basically showing their strategies
And Akko of course, having to reset later, needs to somehow gain an advantage otherwise
And that's what they're doing. They're trying to really milk it as much as they can
To make up for that the reset that was later and they're just like saying okay guys
You got the reason first you go pull the bosses first
We're just gonna see what you're doing and then we're gonna waste less time and that is exactly why echo
Not only that like they are of course trying to get as much info from liquid as possible
But liquid is now asleep. Yeah, they're not gonna get more info. They're still doing with it plus
So you can tell it's not only that of course. They also need to do with it plus
They're not just wasting their time in there. This is obviously also giving them item level
Yeah, and there will be people behind the scenes as well spending some time now to analyze pulls make sure they
Know exactly what's going on and as much as stealing strategies is this idea right like if echo only steal strategies
If they only look at what liquid do to kill bosses and then do it they lose the race
Yeah, because I at some point you have to overtake otherwise you're not gonna kill the boss first right and
Every moment that they are doing M pluses is a moment closer. We are to EU reset
It's a moment and a closer to reset as well means that they'll get their greater volts first
They have that time advantage often maintenance in the first week is a bit longer the maintenance in the second week as well
I think it was five hours for NA this week whereas
Usually in the second week a little bit quicker for them
So they won't have that time cut into like they usually would it is a very interesting battle and obviously there will always be
People talking about well if any wins some people will say well they get the expansion earlier
So obviously they're gonna win if echo wins there'll be some people saying well
They just look at it liquid stretch and then copy them and eventually overtake them but that idea of there being a multifaceted
Advantage and disadvantage depending on where you are in the world is really interesting obviously
Yeah, I also think it's interesting and I think it's them like some people think it's always like the same
Like some people say, oh it's always an advantage to have this or it's always an advantage to have the other thing
But I think it's very very like race dependent. On one race a
Certain thing is going to be more or less an advantage because like let's say for example
Liquid pulls certain bosses first and they encounter a lot of like bugs or things that Blizzard then fixes later
Yeah, if that is true, then they will of course lose more time doing that race to the bugs
Well, Ekko maybe does not because they come to the bosses later and then the bugs have already been fixed, right?
And sometimes that does not happen as much, like in another race, maybe there aren't many bugs, so that's not going to be such a big downside, right?
So definitely think it's like from race to race, it's going to be different on how much advantage or disadvantage a certain thing is, right?
Yeah, and sometimes you have bosses that are tuned a little bit easier, like Avarus, much harder for Ekko to ever catch up on that sort of race, right?
right because you don't have to reset, you're doing it in the first raid, first reset and it
becomes a lot harder for Ekko to actually ever get that time back. Now, so we'll see each of the
braless for our Ekko raiders. I do see another donations come in, I'm wondering if we have a
7TV emote suggestion reminder for $10, two games for love, you can suggest your 7TV emotes,
you can also show us your transmogs, you can show us your favorite wow screenshots of all
time you can show us cat pics you can show us dog pics basically we'll look at anything interesting
that's kind of the vibe we're going for right now obviously don't you know don't send in weird stuff
guys cool stuff you know we have mods checking it we got a nation from grim ten dollars appreciate that
i can't believe grim is uh like fixing everything in the background here for us him donating to
charity as well it could be a different grim no you're sure it's the same grim there's only
Has there's only one grim in the world. Thank you grim make sure you fix those ethernet cables
No, of course a different gram. Thank you so much for the nation and they're saying let's go acro happy to support this charity
Thank you very much. Thank you so much kind of you. Did they send a picture or anything?
Still no 7 TV emotes. There's so many good ones out there
I'm really looking forward to seeing what track comes up with throughout the course of the day reminder
So we will pick our best two of all the emotes suggested and near the end of the day we'll
have a chat poll to vote for which one gets added to the Echo Esports stream.
If there are none, we're just gonna add one of me.
That's all that's gonna happen, I'm gonna choose it and I'm just gonna add it in.
It's my uh, yeah?
If you could add any emotes, what would you add?
Or if you could just make an emotes.
And this is difficult because I never type in twitch chat. I'm actually not at twitch chat the chatter Wow
The lurker the whole time yeah, do you find sometimes this is a bit of a?
Content creative problem that I have sometimes is I'll go into people's streams with like lower viewer numbers
And I just want to chill
I just want to watch and play and then if I type something the chat then it kind of becomes about you
Yeah, it was really bad. Yeah, I get like I don't like that too often
So sometimes I just, I'll sit in someone's chat and then as I leave, oh thanks, who asks? Great, 70th year.
That's actually really bad.
I loved that.
Yeah, but sometimes as I leave, I'll say something. I'll be like, hey, really enjoyed watching your stream for the last however long.
Yeah, that's actually a good point. I usually don't even say anything when I leave because, yeah, I don't like when...
Because when I watch twitch, I don't usually actively watch okay. I'm not sitting there and only watch twitch
Okay, I usually just put it up on my second screen and I feel like if I start tapping something then because I'm getting a
Lot of attention then I also have to like listen actively like type back and whatever
So I don't want to type anything at all and again like it just puts attention away from from the streamer
Yeah, which is not the intent ever.
It's not the intent. Sometimes I do think the streamers are not necessarily annoyed by that though.
Like, especially if maybe there's nothing like super important going on or interesting going on,
then they maybe don't mind that you talk about a different person.
But yeah, it's like you can't ask them first.
Yeah.
So it's weird.
Yeah, because maybe they aren't annoyed, you know.
Yeah, you want to ask them,
Hey, can I type in your chat?
I'm just like, I'm typing in your chat now, I'm sorry.
It's the worst that when people come into your chat and just ask where other people are.
Oh, that's horrible.
I hate it so much. I'm not this person's keeper.
I just want to do my stuff.
Just do my stream. It's rare enough that I do it.
I have to play League of Legends already.
Don't make my day worse.
It's already bad enough.
I actually always wanted to be a League of Legends streamer.
It's like my biggest dream.
I'm not joking.
I started streaming Hearthstone
and then I got so bored of Hearthstone
because I still like the game
but it's just not a game that I can stream
8 hours without breaks. I feel like that's more of a chill game. So I need a different
game to stream. I'm going to stream League. So I started streaming League, but League back then was
such a big game on Twitch. I had a really hard time getting recognized, even with a decent amount
of viewers. I tried it for months and I felt like, you know what, if I hit master, I'm going
to be able to do it. I'm a woman, being master and all. And then I hit master and it's like,
Yeah still nothing. Yeah, so it's like well it's like wow such a saturated
Yeah, it was very similar now. But back then it wasn't and again I had a
history in wow like being world first I mean I guess definitely helped there but
Yeah
Also healthy children
I didn't want to go over the speed limit. Yeah, the other lambos were sad
Yeah, I'm great.
How long ago was it that you got your world first name?
Forever ago, like the last one I got was, I think the last one was Archimonde, which
is Half-Eyes Citadel, which is in Wolves of Draenor.
Wow, okay.
It's before I was born.
anyone is watching this stream is post-bored. Yeah that's true that's a big thing that's happening
these days as well I'll be like oh yeah I started doing this at this age and they were like oh what
year is that? I was like yeah 2004 and they were like wasn't born I was like please please don't say
that it hurts so much. It is funny because I do think like uh like gamers in general have become
older as well right like obviously um because uh yeah I mean there's new gamers that come in
and also the gamers that have been gaming for a long time they're still playing and there is like the age
like difference has gotten bigger and it's so interesting because when you play online with
people you don't know their age that's like if you talk to them you'll like understand yeah
but sometimes I'm still surprised like when someone tells me how old they are
when they're like they're like I don't know 10 years younger and wow
People play games?
We kind of grew up with the gaming boom.
When you could start playing online, I remember even through high school I didn't play any online games.
It was all like you buy a PlayStation, you buy some games for the PlayStation.
It was only when I got to university that I started playing online games.
And obviously, while I was out before that, I didn't play well.
I played well.
Yeah, and Indian internet wasn't good enough to do that unfortunately.
But we kind of grew with it and we've moved from this phase, especially in league e-sports,
where if you were over 20, you wouldn't be picked up for a team.
So you're too old, you don't know how to play, etc.
And now you have people who are 30 winning championships.
Yeah, that is crazy.
Yeah, people like it's just the knowledge of, how am I explaining this,
the ability to grow up with something and have it endemic in your life
makes it so much easier for it to be a long-term part of your life.
Whereas if, say they introduce something now, right,
we're I'm 33, not gonna ask you your age, but...
33.
Okay, we're both 33.
If they introduce a new type of game now,
it's a lot harder for us to learn that
and fully comprehend that in a way someone who is 14 now
will do over the next five years.
Yeah.
Like we'd have to dedicate our lives to it
whereas someone who's 14 could just play it
for a few hours a day
and it becomes second nature to them.
Yeah.
Like touch screens.
Kids these days don't know how to use a keyboard.
There's actually like studies.
go into school and be like, oh, can you type out this document? It's like, no. Yeah, I've just
been I've used a touchscreen for my entire life. Right? It's an interesting change in
how we interact with technology. Super, super fascinating. Oh, our car. So drink it, Tharmin,
we assume. I did want to say it's interesting, so I would like the touch screen assistant.
Oh, sorry. I was just like, I'm just going to say something.
You just pick from all the buckets, you know, we can talk about whatever we want.
I just wanted to say that like touch screens in general are very interesting
because I've seen like especially like really young children they don't
understand the difference between a touchscreen and not that touchscreen
like they've seen a touchscreen before and then they think everything's a
touchscreen right they'll just walk up to things that are not even like a
screen and they're like just like swiping a photo frame yeah
so funny like oh my god so you would never have thought of that like 15
I've seen like a video of a child sleeping and they were swiping like in their dream
Wow
Because like you know they think you can swipe everything like it gives you new stuff you
know so it's like swiping it's crazy
That's an interesting idea of how we'll evolve with technology and become more part
of our lives
I wonder what the next step is you know is it grain implants is it virtual reality
Yes
Yeah. New donations coming in. Oh, let's go. What have we got?
All right. We do have a $10 donation by Suki. Thank you, Suki.
And they're asking... The vassigal is worrying me slightly.
They're asking, Medic, what's your favorite bean brand? If it's anything but Heinz, we
can't be friends. Heinz 2 beans.
I think it's to do beans oh god they're just asking that we had maple syrup beans and I just cannot know man
maple syrup?
there's a light oh my god
actually sounds better than the tomato thing
I do think it has to be Heinz but I also think if I'm gonna get baked beans it's a rare occurrence
the treat you know I will go for Heinz because I know they're good I'm sure
there are other bean brands out there that are equally as good but when you
You're being so serious about this right now.
Suki asked me a serious question.
It's just funny to me because I don't think I've ever like seriously eaten baked beans
except for like a challenge, like a disgusting challenge.
So what about if we hit $4,900?
No, I've eaten just before. Every time I watch the heck of broadcast I have to eat baked beans.
I don't like it. Stop it.
Maple syrup beans.
Sounds good.
It's not happening. I'm gonna bring great cheese next time. I love great cheese. Okay, I
Haven't a quake to call it just cuz I like big beans and me my palates bad
I mean it can mean I the problem with taste is it's subjective. That is true
Well, actually no, you're wrong everything that I like is
Objectively true and everything everyone else is objectively wrong assuming you don't like it. Yeah, I understand that
Hinds beans with the little sausages. Yeah, that's your favorite one. Yeah
Because it's nostalgic. And it's like the Greg's thing that we had earlier.
Do you usually eat this warm or cold? Warm.
Okay. Because I don't think I've ever eaten it warm. Maybe that's the issue.
Oh, it's much better warm. Yeah, okay. Because cold is kind of disgusting, yeah?
Yeah, cold is... I would never eat beans cold.
Yeah, okay. So maybe I should just eat this warm once and see if I like it.
I mean, I would always eat beans cold because it's funny. But like, warm beans is the way to go.
I also think like beans aren't the most delicious thing in the world.
I know that's gonna upset chap, but it's similar to the Greg sausage roll I had the other day where
It doesn't matter that it's not the best. It's a childhood reminder and it's comfy food, right?
They um the idea of like your your comfort foods is actually a myth
They did a bunch of studies where they tracked people's mood and they asked them what their comfort food was and then when they
were sad they provided them their comfort food and then for some of them when they were they
banked it in equal sadness scale they didn't give them the comfort food and within an hour
they both returned to the same level of sadness or happiness yeah so the comfort food actually
wasn't giving you any increased happiness okay uh however it tastes nice and it feels good
you know that's true like from the from the study it doesn't do anything but yeah i like
I like some ice cream in my belly, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, exactly!
What is your... okay, what's like a weird thing you ate when you were younger?
That is like... that is actually just weird.
Like not baked beans or something, but like some weird combination of food or whatever.
I mean, so I wouldn't call it weird, but I love dosa and idli.
It's like Indian breakfast food.
Oh, okay.
So it's like curry, you have a sambar which is like a curry sauce, it's like a watery curry sauce.
sauce they have your chutneys usually you have a green chutney and then a
tomato and a coconut chutney and a dosa is this very thin paper thin like thinner
than a crepe pancake fried on this big pan and then rolled up so it's just like a
big tube and inside it you can put like masala you can put some chicken if you
want we used to have for cheesy ones and garlicky ones very tasty that sounds
very very delicious it is very delicious I really want to try that I
wouldn't call it weird I think it's one of those like it's odd to people because
it's yeah Indian food right the big one I had was crepes with cheese and jam that
which kind of cheese any like it has to have a little bit of a bite but not full
blue so like a sharp chatter oh you get the you get the sharpness oh it's a
source of calcium and iron guys. I love calcium and iron in my maple style beans. Delicious.
I mean I kind of want to try the maple style beans now. Yeah, so do I, but I don't think
we're going to get them here. There's no way. There's no way we can get maple style
beans here in Berlin. But cheese and jam. Yeah, because you have the, are you melting
Yes, okay. It's not yeah. Yeah, so I do like cheese with jam like some people say this is casting but
Yeah, I eat butter with jam and butter is also like a cheese product. I'd like it's a dairy products
It's like yeah, I think people would argue butter is less offensive in terms of that's true
I also like cream cheese with jam is very good. It's cottage cheese. The jam is good. Um, yeah, sometimes
Yeah, what would be your most offensive slash weird?
um
Well the one thing that I would eat that I haven't eaten this in a long time
I kind of want to try again is you know when you just boil potatoes
And you just eat both potatoes, and he just makes whatever in and I would like smash them with like a fork in a plate
And then I put um, it's this type of cheese. It's like oh my god
I'm sure how to explain this it's these try triangular like cheese bits
They're very small and you just like like yeah like creamy try creamy
like a cheese spread
like maribel?
no, maribel is definitely not something that you...
triangle cheese spread
I'm looking it up
there's a bunch of different ones and different flavors
laughing cow is the one... like, does?
yes, exactly
yeah, laughing cow, looks like this
you can't see that, it's way too tiny
it's just a cheese spread
I know what you mean
I would mix it into my potatoes
and then I would put tuna
tuna and then I would pour milk into it. It actually is delicious, but that's it.
It has a name that has a name. No, no, no, no, we're talking about the dish has to be
a laughing cat. Yeah, it is love. She yeah, she yeah. Perfect.
it? Yeah wait it's the cow that laughs. La vache qui rime. Yeah. Sans conservateur,
colorant, aromais, aromais artificiel ajoute. L'origine des bruits. It's funny because
when you read French, all you have to do is not pronounce the last couple of letters
And it sounds French unless there's an S and then a vowel in which case you have to say the essence
It's true. Yeah, there's any man
Yeah, very small bit I love it. Okay, nice. Yeah, I was actually fluent coming out of high school and then didn't use it
Yeah, that's difficult. I was I know Italian and like if I read French wait, no, wait a second. Wait a second
tuna and milk
Talk about you knowing what your language is.
So potatoes, stump, and then cheese.
Cheese spread, yeah.
100% on board.
Tuna, good.
It's like a potato salad with tuna.
Milk.
Yeah, I don't know why I did that, honestly.
Because I used to drink milk a lot the second,
like to almost any meal.
Like to pass that to any, just a glass of cold milk,
right?
Delicious.
And then I guess I was thinking, why eat the potato
and drink the milk?
when I could just put the milk into the potatoes
and then, you know, that was probably my thinking.
And I just started doing that and then I didn't stop.
And yeah, that was a thing.
Is it like a creamy, like is it full fat milk?
Or is it earth?
It's full fat.
Okay, cause then I can kind of be on board.
Cause it's almost like a cream at that point.
And like, if I put a bit of cream in there,
that's just like a cream of potato salad, right?
I can kind of vibe with that.
If it was semi skimmed,
I'm like, you're just watering down nice potatoes.
You know?
Yeah, yeah, it kind of looks like that. Oh, no.
Wait, when's it get delivered though?
The richest ordering...
Maple-style beans.
$15, Maple-style beans.
Okay, can we quickly, can we very quickly bring up the charity incentives as well?
Because I think we put the maple beans in here somewhere.
$12.5K?
We...
$7.5K. $7.5K.
Because then it's like a nice little stopgap on the way to whose cast it is anyway.
I was like, that's the import fee.
Yeah.
7 and a half K.
I will definitely eat the maple beans.
You joining me?
I will definitely try.
Do you warm it up?
Mitch?
Instead of like a warm, okay.
We will warm them up.
Do you put them in like a piece of bread or with a spoon just like that?
With a glass of milk or with a glass of milk and some cheese.
With all the potatoes?
Yeah.
Oh, hashbrown.
I love hashbrowns.
That's Julia, maybe she's gonna make like a whole thing like-
It's chicken and waffle!
We could do it chicken and waffle style.
Chicken, maple beans on waffles.
Wait, that actually does sound kind of good now.
It sounds really nice now.
I'm vibing.
I'll do it for free.
Okay, the shipping cost is the price of the beans,
but we can definitely do it.
It's what she is.
$30 for beans!
Two people have it in their cart, though, Mitch!
Quick!
The faster!
It's gotta be gone!
Oh.
Wait, did we get a Cloak?
Uh, 623, uh, 613.
Crit vs Cloak.
And once again, it's Jinji who is getting geared as per usual.
But we're so close to our $5,000 operation medic goal.
So I didn't want to go through some more donations because we did get another nation by Emmerion Gaming.
Oh, thank you very much.
Another 10 dollars by them.
And that hey guys me again a quick question any tips for beginning live streamers from pro to noob like me cheers
Maybe we'll ask
Answer this a little bit later because I feel like telling people how to become live streamers. That's a long conversation
Yeah, we will get back to that. I mean, oh we've hit five thousand as well amazing operation. Thank you so much ago
Let me get my scalpel. What toad you want removed?
Doesn't have to be a toe any appendage really. I'm ready
I'm going to go with the second toe from the left on my left foot.
Oh, I was talking about preacher's feet.
We're not going to cut your toes, because I'm pretty sure it's old.
We can take away the jits, you know?
You can still play video games with a toe, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Although, little toe, you want to keep that bad boy.
Yeah, right.
Very important for me.
That's my second from the left foot.
Also, your little finger is like a ton of your grip strength.
It's crazy.
If you grip like this, right, it's a lot easier.
but when your little finger gets involved it's a huge amount. I mean this proves nothing because I can do everything.
But yeah your little finger is a lot of things. What are you doing? Keep going, keep going.
It's like a really easy, oh so hard, oh my little finger, oh it's so difficult.
This is great, keep it up. I believe anything you say. I mean you're a doctor right?
So true. You can make things up on the spot, I trust it.
Okay we need to get back to Mimian's question. I will put that in my mind palace and make
sure we get returned to it after these donations. Then we have a $10 donation by a wild smasher.
And I can't open it. It's a picture. Oh, it's a picture of one of three cats. He's seven months old
in this pic. Oh, thank you so much. Wild smasher, did you say? Yeah. Wild smasher for the donation.
We're going to bring that up onto the screen as shortly as possible. Come on, Mitch. And while
While we wait for the cat to... Well, we could just wait and not continue, yeah, we should just stare into the camera.
We should also just stop speaking to pressure production.
Don't give in to them.
I'm so, so pressured!
Stream down.
F5 to refresh.
Is it this hard to get an image link up, really?
I could do production!
Oh my goodness!
Okay, that's it.
I have to vet the picture first. I get it because the cat has a little cone on it.
Oh, he's very cute.
Into the vet.
Oh, wild Keshia at the cat.
Wild Smasher, that's what I needed this morning.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
And we have a huge $250 donation by Baby Dragon.
Oh, wow. Thank you, Baby Dragon. That's amazing.
And they say, my yearly donation towards the charity.
Thank you so, so much.
Thank you so much, Baby Dragon.
It's a great charity to pick.
For every dollar that games for love get,
they impact the life of one child.
So there's 150 children that you have helped
with your donation.
It means a huge amount.
It really does.
Thank you very, very, very much.
We do have another $10 donation by Suki.
And they say, hind sausages and beans, medic W.
Yeah.
You know it, Suki.
You and me.
Yeah, we're in it for like, yeah, bean, bean bumps.
me my bean buds out here. Kidney, okay. Pines, best. Any other beans? Green. There's green
beans as well. Not as good. I cannot join you on this coming to the news. So sorry.
But soon I'm going to be eating the maple. Carry G, $10 a nation. No message. Thank
you very, very much. Thank you so much. $50 by anonymous. Thank you. I really, really,
I really appreciate that, that it's very generous.
Incredible generous.
And then we have $10 by Madness and they say,
Madic, have you paid your rat taxes for this month?
My rat tax?
I didn't even know there was a rat tax.
What is a rat tax?
I don't know.
Is that a preach thing?
Just say yes.
I gave him beans.
I gave him 24 cans of beans.
That must be.
That has to be enough for a rat tax.
Yeah, yeah, certainly.
I'm on it.
Dan, thank you so much for the donation as well.
It's very kind of you.
And then we also have Toe B1 Kenobi with a 2 down evasion and they're saying...
Toe B1 Kenobi as well because it's the beans!
And they're saying... no it's because...
Wait, what did you think it was?
The toast!
No, it's beans I'm pretty sure.
You think it's about Toe B?
They're saying make sure you operate on Preach's toast.
Oh, okay. That's fine.
I thought it was some weird sort of Toe thing.
It's Toe Toe B1 Kenobi.
Oh, didn't Toby Won Kenobi donate the other day as well? I feel like when Preacher and Alex were on the desk, Toby Won Kenobi gave him a donation.
Somebody donated this Toby Bryant.
Yes, that's true.
And Toby Won Kenobi, yeah.
And his mini dishwasher that I also bought for him, as you can see. Good enough for a spoon, good enough for Preach.
It's the general rules.
Before we, we are going to get Operation Medics set up, but I want to make sure we get to Emery and Gaming's question first.
So I'm on the smaller side of Twitch streaming whereas you are on the larger side I think we would say.
My biggest bit of advice is to do things you enjoy.
At the moment I'm struggling a bit with League because I find myself being too frustrated and playing the game.
So what I've decided to do is just find things that I enjoy doing and do them more on stream.
And then the community that you build around you is much more the community you want
which is people that enjoy watching me enjoy myself
myself, as opposed to people that enjoy me being good at a specific game or people that
enjoy me being high elo at a specific game, right? You can overinvest in being really good
at something, but if your motivation to do that thing expires, then sometimes your community
can draw back from you as well, because you're not as good at the thing that you
used to be. So my biggest bit of advice is enjoy the things you're doing and don't
do the things you don't enjoy doing just because you feel that you should do them.
Yeah, that's a very important advice because I do think that like people think that if I just make it like initially
Then I'll be set right the things that it's just not true
Like streaming really comes and goes and it can stop at any time
Yeah, and especially if you lose interest in it like if you get demotivated
It's just gonna be like a chore for you. Yeah, and it's and not only is it gonna be a chore for you
It's also gonna be impacting your viewers because if you're not having fun
It's really noticeable for the viewer and it's gonna be less enjoyable for them to watch
So it's incredibly important that you enjoy what you're doing, so that's very good advice.
And then in addition, I do want to say that even though Twitch has gotten a little bit better,
a little bit better at discoverability, I don't think that Twitch is very, very incredibly
difficult to make it on Twitch by just being on Twitch.
So one of the things that I would have done differently if I knew this before is I
I would have worked on my other social medias as I'm working on Twitch, like just because
you want to be a Twitch streamer doesn't mean that all of the other social media platforms
don't matter.
They matter a lot because most other social media platforms have a lot better discoverability
and their algorithm works differently compared to Twitch, but Twitch is like if you have
a lot of viewers you're very discoverable, if you have very few viewers no one's going
to find your stream.
You have to scroll and scroll and scroll in a section to find your stream and the
The problem is you might have the best stream ever, but no one will know because how would
they find you, right?
Because people don't look for random streams and they don't get recommended and then you
just have a hard time.
Well, on YouTube, for example, you can be a small YouTuber and some random video that
you do gets a lot of traction and then all of a sudden gets picked up at the algorithm
and it gets like hundreds of thousands of views, right?
And that doesn't happen on Twitch.
So putting some time into other platforms makes a lot of sense and Twitch streaming
definitely has diminishing returns. Some people think the more I stream the more
money I make as you just stream forever. Yeah. And it is true the longer you
stream the more ads you can run and the more steps you can potentially get, right?
But putting last time into streaming, and I'm not saying I stream 20 minutes a
day, but at some point like after a couple of hours there's a huge
diminishing return because people that follow you they might have already
seen you stream and like tuned in and left again or whatever and other
people that don't know your stream they're not gonna see you no matter how long you're streaming.
So taking time off of streaming and putting it into some other content like social media like
i mean youtube or tiktok or whatever that's going to help you out a lot more and it's also
going to help you to stay more like engaged and just doing different things than to constantly
have this pressure like oh my god i have to stream 12 hours a day every day like otherwise
i'm not going to make it and no that's just not how it works very easy way to burn yourself
out as well especially when you start seeing oh I had I know 500 concurrence
over 12 hours if I stream for 16 hours then I have 500 concurrence that's more
money etc right you can very quickly burn yourself out doing that I also think
one thing that you talked about was making YouTube videos doing that helps
you find a voice something that really helped me find how I speak to an
audience with scripting for the LEC like right in my own segments and
having that degree of separation from it just being you talking but also
having the idea of, oh, this is how I want to structure this bit of my stream.
This is how I want to lead into this next point is really helpful.
So doing other content and finding other things to do alongside streaming is really vital.
And taking time off, try and get at least one day off a week.
I don't always get that, but you try as hard as you can because it does give you time
for creative resets and we talked a lot about it the other day.
Yeah, just having that time, even just like taking a walk,
like if you're just on your PC all day,
just going outside and going for like a 15 minute walk
where you don't have your headset on and listen to something,
like literally just like take off
and take the time to do something else,
will give you like a reset and gives you like more ideas
and you creative mind sometimes needs a reset.
And this happens as well,
like when I guess when you have a normal job.
Yeah, yeah.
Like let's say you have a job where you have to think a lot.
Let's say you're a programmer, right?
and you have to figure out how to solve this problem,
then I'm sure those people know that if you're sitting there
and you're just stuck, it makes sense to just like,
take a break, reset, do something else,
and then all of a sudden you have the idea, right?
It's because at some point you're just like,
like overworked and you're stressed out
and you can't think anymore.
Your brain just needs to approach it differently, right?
Like, I have a friend that I used to
lost our grade with a lot,
and at like three in the morning we'd be in a raid,
he'd be like, oh, I've solved my software problem.
And it's like, cool, okay, now you go off
and do that, it's great.
But yeah, I think those are the best things.
Obviously, don't expect things to work from day one.
You're going to try a lot of stuff,
and it's better to try a lot of stuff
and fail a lot of stuff than to try and be perfect
at the first thing,
and then don't actually experiment
and don't actually be creative
because you're trying so hard to be perfect.
Yeah, and don't focus a lot on numbers, right?
Oh, yeah, screw the numbers.
And then know that it's super difficult,
but what I do, still do,
is I don't show my concurrent viewer numbers
on the next day.
I don't see any of that until afterwards.
afterwards I get an email and sometimes I just delete the email
I do look at it afterwards and I've definitely been doing it for so long that I'm not really
getting affected by that much anymore but I was thinking okay so how does it help me
during the stream to see my viewer numbers and then I was thinking okay well maybe if I had more
viewers I'm more like entertaining or whatever but then why wouldn't I be the same when I have
less viewers right so like there is no positive effect that the viewer number is seeing the
of your number could have on you, then you shouldn't have without seeing the number, right?
So I feel like there's just no purpose, just turn it off and like focus on the moment and
just always assume at 100,000 viewers, right?
And just interact with the people in chat and do your best.
And also don't get hung up on if people don't chat that much, especially at the start,
right?
Like it's very hard.
If you dictate your stream on talking to chat, it's firstly it's hard for you
because maybe there's not that many chat messages, but also especially at the start,
like for someone like you, maybe there's a few more
so you can have that back and forth.
But also it's hard on the chatter.
Like if I go into a chat and there's 10 people there
and I send a message and the streamer starts
only talking to me, going back and forth,
I'm feeling tired because I kind of came
just to be entertained, right?
And I enjoy the moment, but then I'm writing back
every three minutes with a reply.
So find a way to be entertaining
without just talking to chat and enjoy yourself.
It's about having fun at the end of the day.
Yeah and because we're setting up our operation in medics, we're gonna throw to a quick wave listening
and when we come back we're gonna have an operation.
Yeah I think we've... I'm not cutting off reaches, Tos.
Why not?
Well, maybe. We've got a butter knife.
You're gonna have to wait and see.
That you will.
My tank is not in.
You can rest him.
Yeah I can. I'm dead, don't...
Admitted what it was.
Wait, wait, here we go.
Why is my tank dying?
We need the crest here we can't
Yeah we need the crest and also in it there is no your shield
Yeah
Alright let's go
Last quest should only 3 minutes
6-13 crit mass re-ring
Yeah Wally, if I can heal her
I'll be there for some reason even though I do
Yeah Sam, we're just going for crest
That's good
We're in the trinity, grimby toll, kind of
Inconvert, no more
Normal one
I can't have a cough crest
I'm fat
Why do you five pressed again?
I mean if you can't use top from them you can convert them into the original
I did that already
I'm only like 23 cars
I'm missing
Yeah maybe like a cash it's probably lost lost just in case
And just do like a plus four or something
It probably is too lowkey
I'm looking for directions to my house
That's good
It's my first day, I understand, it's popular, not a sense of fear coming in, I know.
Yes, I might not be able to get into it, but it's my first time.
Well, it's yours.
Yep.
Can I open this then?
I think I can.
I can.
Yeah, I'm also fine.
You need to come down.
No, I think he is not okay!
Okay, let's have a look at the patient.
I'm gonna put the patient on the table.
Oh, that looks bad.
Oh my god, it's real, it's very bad.
What do you think?
Uh, well, there's a few lacerations to the abdomen, uh, so...
I think it's a proctalgia.
You think it's proctalgia?
You think it's butt hurts?
Okay.
We can have, we can have an investigation of the anus.
First up, can you, uh, can you get me masked up and blubbed up, please?
I will, I will, of course. Let me get my gloves on first.
How long have you been working in this hospital?
This is my first time. Oh!
I can tell.
Fortalgia is not usually the thing we would first present within this sort of case
I think there are multiple contusions and lacerations to the entire abdomen and the thoracic cavity
You're still talking!
Yes, that's my job!
He's dying!
He's not dying!
Do we have an anesthesia?
I need some succimethonium, please?
Okay, sure, whatever you say.
Okay.
That's the wrong side.
Okay, what do we have?
Do we have... do we have anesthesia here?
Is he under?
Yes, yes, he's totally under.
Yeah, okay. We need the masks on as well. I need you to drape the patient. I will drape the patient for you in just a moment
Okay, yeah, that's good. Uh-huh
Yeah, this is
It's gonna be very audible for the people who might be watching from the gallery
Just put it on please
I'm just so nervous. Thank you. I think he's dying to the Proctalgia
You learnt one word in med school, it's not funny, a man's life is at stake!
Okay, let me investigate.
He's bleeding!
I only have one good eye.
Can you drape the patient for me please?
I'm draping the patient.
The clamps are for the anal fishes.
That's not a drape, that's a medical mask.
The drape's over here, here we are.
I'm draping the patient, I'm draping the patient.
Drape.
No.
We need to be able to access
to access the thoracic cavity. On the side, yeah, nice. And then some tape, please, or
some clamps to keep that down. I'll investigate. Okay, so how are you feeling? Okay, can't answer
because he's under anesthesia. Yeah, that makes sense. Probably should have known, shouldn't
I? Okay, do you have a scalpel? We do have a scalpel, doctor medic. Okay, that's a pair
of tweezers, but we can try. Okay, as a medical student, can you explain to me
where you would wait what you'd access first I would access remember things I
would try to do that area I would use your super about the middle okay well
you're gonna be fine pretty sure worry about it he has some butterflies in his
stomach so we're gonna try and remove the butterflies if we can all right it's
just one of your hairs probably it's a bit too short I think you might be like
it usually you'd wear some sort of hair net for this sort of situation but
Here we go. Okay. Okay.
He's bleeding.
Okay. You're not, you're not very chill.
Okay. Aha.
We have the butterfly.
Oh, my God.
Remove from your stomach.
No wonder you had a fork cold.
Butterflies in your stomach would cause proctalgia.
You can also have growths in your stomach,
depending on what you eat.
Usually the hydrochloric acid will remove it for you, obviously.
But it doesn't work in every case.
I've seen a bit of broccoli pulled out of someone's lung.
You're talking while he's dying.
Which removed the butterflies.
Okay.
I think next I would do the foot.
You do the foot.
The left one.
The left foot.
Okay.
Well, that's this.
Yeah, okay.
This is right.
Okay, this is.
Okay.
I'm going to close the woods.
I'm going to close the woods.
Okay, good job.
His Achilles heel is slightly elastic,
but I think we can make this work.
Let's have a try.
Okay.
I, I, you do not have to.
There we are.
There's an Achilles heel for you as well.
We'll remove that.
Very good job.
Okay.
Can we have a bit of tape for the wound, please?
Come on mate, you say he's dying and you're not hurrying up!
I'm sorry, what are we doing now?
The tape on the wound!
Please!
Okay, okay, I'm taping it, I'm taping it!
This whole area isn't still oil anymore, but we're set to live with it.
Okay.
I think he's waking up!
I think he's waking up!
He's waking up!
Yes!
Okay, he's still asleep, we're fine!
Ah!
It helped with his pencil hand as well, we've got that out, should we?
There you are!
Thank you so much!
Okay, this is great, this is great.
Great surgical technique there.
Okay, he also has a spanner in his foot that is somehow taped back down to his other foot now
He needs to be a bit more careful with this taping here. We are there's his spanner
You notice any arthrosis?
No, I've only seen Pyrrexia
Pyrrexia you think it's fad vryl?
I don't think his fever and his nose running are the most important things in the world right now
I'm gonna be honest. He's still got some spare ribs that we must
But what about his sternotate?
His sternotate?
I can't even remember what that means!
It's a sneeze!
He's got warts!
Maybe you don't know what that means!
He can't sneeze!
He's intubated!
Okay, we're going to get rid of the spare ribs.
That explains it, that explains it.
Okay.
There we go.
Have a spare rib.
Oh my god, I'm so glad to be a medic doctor.
If you save that for your dog later, that would be great.
I will do that.
Okay, do you think we need to remove his funny bone?
He'll be more like Preach then.
He doesn't think he has a funny bone.
We shouldn't be laughing, this is serious medicine.
I think there might be some laughing gas in his room.
Yeah, quite possibly.
We do have a broken heart, afraid that that's going to be quite difficult to extract here.
Do you have him on bypass?
Yeah, I bypassed him multiple times.
Okay, let's just ignore him and walk into another room apparently.
Oh, this is a toughie.
You're not really helping now, I'm gonna be honest.
I'm still looking up on YouTube how to do-
There we are.
We got rid of his heart!
An operation.
Good job!
I think- I think a preach now.
Are you supposed to get rid of the heart?
If we're trying to be preach it makes the most-
No!
Oh no!
No, lick it off!
Lick it off!
I think we saved him.
Oh my god, we did it!
High five.
Thank you so much, doctor.
Let's go.
I kind of-
Okay, he might be dead now.
He might be dead now. Just give him more beans fuckers.
We've removed his heart and beans are good for the heart.
Let's listen in with Wave.
Don't do this.
No.
Let's hope these are streamers.
What makes this? Are you rushing to skip a phase?
Like in a cast like this?
40 stack, it was sick.
Look at Orb of Ascendance. Hopefully there's value in those.
How many Gucci barrages have you sent?
Oh, room 56 mil.
oh yeah, every time they just need it
you just get ahead
we are so lost with my delivery, holy f**k
dude, that guy is still on your copy
yeah, why not graphe is not going guys
that was what i was waiting for
now we have nekko's f**k coming
i still don't know
now would be a good time to kill the guy walking down
the retired lord
but didn't he say that's the worst one minus oh maybe this is some L type shit
man isn't Robin like 38 years old house you wrote those what are we saying
these things this is like sumo like this is like push the wrist lift look
how long are people this is I just hear push he's just talking
I have infinite damage
You have infinite damage?
Yeah, 39 firemen and 2
Okay, I'm ready
I don't know who to tank with this
Who's moving? Is this guy moving?
Oh, this guy is moving, NX is moving
Nah, that's in front of us
But yeah, the ice sickest is where you guys need to spread out
Coming up here, spread out now guys
Don't stack together
Ooh, and I get Ryzen, I don't know for you to...
Ryzen's too far away, there we go.
Ryzen, why am I dying?
I could have rolled to 5, if so.
Now we need to cuddle up guys, give me your body heat, okay, so...
Not yet.
I mean, not yet, so...
Coming up soon?
Yeah, give me your body heat guys, give me your body, guys.
Yes, thank you. Give me a haste.
I need more buddies.
I'm really confused. Whoever designed this post really is cool.
I really don't want to do something like that.
No, no, no. That in the company don't want to know.
You know that Technic 10 is not that much harder here because of the spot effect.
Oh, yeah.
But they still have a lot more like the trash.
The fuck where they going?
And now they're doing this other phase again, right?
No, no, no, you don't need to second. Now you guys need to spread again, I'm pretty sure.
Like, now they're at the space where they do the front, and then they do the ice sickle after.
Yeah. There's permanent knife throw, bro. There's bleed, it's Omega.
It does damage, actually.
But yeah, now you get ice sickle, watch out, spread it out. I see my Vika is telling me.
I do have auto-time star.
Now they will step around again.
again for him I did it so yeah yeah I like this actually really enjoyed hot
that they just he just shadow stepped my drink and use yeah what a splendid
experience let us slip us but not ask for anything more go inside temple go
left okay and I didn't know knows everything I have a cool down but he
I have some heroic warplates.
I don't have that.
I need that.
I'm here, right?
Big damage right here.
Behind me.
I'm so annoyed.
I'm killing my own target.
I'm so annoyed.
I'm off here.
I'm watching it all the time.
It's crazy.
Big pulleys.
Of course man.
These guys are just racking up the damage.
They take an increase on me.
Oh, they're actually owning on the damage with their guys.
Look at that.
I mean, I'm doing half of the warrior, but for my stand, I would say this.
It's pretty good, yeah.
I'm down there alone this time.
I'm missing my mate.
I'm down there alone.
Do we need to go somewhere else?
I mean, I'm missing Khan.
Here's one.
Here, Palsen's spell is insane.
What?
What?
This fucking hurts, this ever.
I mean, I think it's just Mike.
I released it.
I got it.
That was a pinky toe hit.
Ah, okay, that's fine.
Missed count at start.
I mean, can we not just do more count hits?
I mean, surely we can make up count, right?
I wonder what the thing is.
What is the word, land?
And the city of threats wait here's 20 count. Oh, that's the fact
As a rep man self-pissure in order to all wait, what the fuck can I release? That's very long
This is so bad
This discount is good down here. This looks good. I'm pulling it
How is this count worse than the stuff
This count is pretty fucking easy. I mean how much counter we need I guess
We can do, yeah, I have no idea, we will find out I guess, let's see.
This was omega free, I don't know about the start being free, the webmancers and stuff, they have way more annoying than this.
It's not spelled like that, no HP.
Wait, do we go left or right here?
Let's go right, let's go right.
I remember when these assistants were from Akasa's mic, when we went to the internet.
They're on that Shrallas.
They have a group like Noc, right?
I mean, you just kick it, yeah.
We've been here, they don't have speed.
Oh, I have 4S2.
Oh, yeah, we have 4S2.
I'm losing aggro on... How is this impossible?
Yeah, sure.
That was not too bad.
We have 95% AO, can you mine, too?
Yeah, but...
Yeah.
How do we get to much percent?
We're last in last boss I guess.
Yeah probably man.
This is last boss so hard on us.
We also get countered when there's two mini bosses, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can't wait much trash.
This is also giving counter.
One percent. Huge.
Let's go all the way.
Maybe we should try and, I mean, we see.
I mean, we still need a little bit.
Maybe the last mobs gives 20 each.
Well, now there's a lot of mobs in...
This is where you need to hook the balls.
I think if you soak a ball it leaves a puddle, right?
Yeah, and you always get healing on top.
Yeah.
7 million, 3.5 million, 4.2 million, 5 million.
But this is nothing against Queen of the Wreck.
You used a different kind of values. What is this? What is this one? Oh, what a good boss.
Now this is the A.V. damage. I don't know that.
If she does a bit.
I don't know if Ryzen was ready for it bro.
I didn't have a patch. I used it earlier for just for damage.
I used it for damage before the deboss.
Guys, room management has not been popular for like that.
I really don't know, but the boss is a boss at the time.
This tank actually does damage, but the fuck is going on man.
Take it all back, this boss is shit.
I don't know, he pooped on the ground here.
Cool. Interesting boss.
It's in the boss. It's the...
Oh, I forgot the boss.
I'm gonna get the weapon.
I have to unlock the defense in my life.
I don't have a last boss.
These mobs don't do anything, there's like some recounts and others.
No, he has stomped, this was doing rainbow damage on me.
I mean maybe we were playing fortified, you know.
Could be.
What?
Yeah, so these faintings get 40 each.
What?
Missed count, we didn't miss any count.
We didn't agree on who was going to open up and make it after the break.
I would try to do the professionals.
You're a professional.
Wait, I thought you were doing the intro.
Yeah.
That's what you're for, right?
to have a chit chat someone's gonna introduce it that's not my job we're back after some
bitch reset let's go again let's go okay roll nice beans beans this is this is important
it is important but we'll get to the important bit we just there was just surgical expertise
demonstrated on this very table true and you're trying to bring us back into seriousness
immediately whoever those two people were that nice and that surgeon they did a great job
Actually you were a med student when they were a med student and they were not a nerd.
I'd watch that if it was on TNT or something.
We could call it Greg's ED.
Greg's ED.
Chris?
Greg's ED.
Have you been Greg's recently? Come to Greg's ED.
Welcome to the other show where we talk about Greg's and beans.
That's not what's going to happen.
Welcome back to the Waste of the World first.
I'm Medics and a Guru.
and joining us on the sofa is Sam, one of our lead producers.
I'm not quite sure of your exact job title, so we'll go with that.
That works.
Yeah.
Cool.
I like it.
And we're going to talk a little bit about the systems that are powering all of our
players and even the production through the course of the race to the world first.
Do you want to kick us off?
Yeah, so we had a little bit of a good chat with Mitch, came on the couch last night
and had a chat with Alex and Mike and talked about the player PCs.
I just thought it would be interesting to take you a little bit further behind the curtain
with what Starforge has provided us for the production.
Because the tasks that we have and the way we set up our production, we need some very
specific equipment and Starforge gave us pretty much a carte blanche to create whatever we
wanted.
Because of that, that's why we can do the stuff that we do with only two people.
Our operation is meant to be run, it can actually be run by one singular person
as Mitch is doing right now. It's a little bit more challenging if you want to...
Replay, Mitch!
It becomes a little bit more challenging.
Bring up a branch of sorts!
Where's the music?
Why did not do mythic?
Where's the mythic?
How many more splits?
How many more splits?
That we can't control.
But they gave us a very sort of like,
hey, what do you need?
Yeah.
What do you need to make this work?
And they built us two absolutely units of machines a couple of years ago
that are still sort of running completely strong.
For example, like main production PC as a threader for pro is a five five nine five five nine seven five wx
Big chunky processor with a 4080 in it and 64 gigs of server level RAM
We are running both machines on Windows 10 server
Because that this lets us have that access to the the drivers and system stuff necessary to run this on this level
And this time rounds you've seen replay from us before
We've made replay even kind of like smoother this time round by sort of like putting an even chunkier giant hard drive that they gave us as well
Which is a Samsung 990 Pro?
The thing that's super impressive about that is just the read and write speed of that.
It's seven like it's just about 7,000 megabits a second that can read and like
7,450 that it can write.
It sounds like a big number.
Yes, which means that we can record seven inputs at 1080p 60fps
constantly for I think it's 14 hours okay that is crazy then it it automatically
deletes and you can scrub through that footage perfectly at 60 FPS like at 8
time speed backwards forwards in points outwards that is very well because the
numbers obviously nothing for the nerds out there or for the people who are
involved in I think nerd isn't a bad term anymore you can be a nerd for the
nerds out there really cool for me being able to hear like seven inputs for
14 hours that's super obviously very important when you have cool segments
happening on the show as well so that we can scrub back see that great surgeon
at work the medical student asking about proctology you know these are the
important things that we have to remember yes because the course of the
race yeah and they I hope that everybody's enjoying the show so far I
know that we haven't seen much mythic progress hopefully copium they should be
back to that later on this afternoon after lunch we should see some some
Wormie Pulse. He definitely tanted for our shift to be over. He said okay we're gonna do
Mythic as soon as I'm mad at him. But you got Mythic yesterday. Yeah. I've had two morning shifts.
That's a lie I did not. Oh really? Yeah I didn't get Mythic. Wow. It's just Preach and Alex who
got it then I guess. Correct. Well who does the schedule do you know? I can read and write
A message to you to claim that I am upset.
You can. I mean, just your training wheels are coming off now, I think.
We can actually release you. You've got the, like, there's no more wobbles.
So you should be completely fine. I think that you will probably see some mythic to all day tomorrow.
To all day?
All day tomorrow.
Thanks for pointing out that I know word goods.
This is what we do. This is what we do, Sam.
Okay, someone makes a minor mistake and in our heads we're like,
Like if I made that mistake, I would be pooping myself right now.
So you have to point it out and make a joke of it so people don't feel bad.
We'll just wrap this little StarForge bit up a little bit.
I'm just playing a ball and saying that we want to thank StarForge so, so much for
pretty much just opening the arsenal of fasts to kind of create machines that we
can bring these shows to you both from the player side, both from the production
side and spoiler alert for an upcoming segment where we talk to Grimm about what
goes on in his little dungeon cave, this door to the right, because that's stuff where
if you thought this was nerdy and you thought yesterday was nerdy when we were talking about
specs, just wait till Grimm gets in the couch and talks to you about what happens in the
encoding world because that gets very deep.
Yeah, I think the important thing is we've had a few fires, but they have all been of
our own making, or of issues with software rather than anything with hardware, stuff
or systems. I don't really remember anything breaking at all. I haven't seen any problems
with player PCs, I haven't seen any problems with production PCs, just wiring and sometimes
you know, installing beta software and that sort of thing.
Yeah, this shouldn't be installed, but the system has been working perfectly for everyone
to have the whole thing. You can even see the FPS in the raids. I had a lot of people
yesterday complaining about FPS in my raids, but the players seem to be having a whale
of a time not doing them.
No, those processes in the player PCs are just built for this. We had, when they
came out like a year and a half two years ago now we had players start upgrading to them at home
and loved them so much and they were like can we get them at the events can we get them at the
events and we were straight on to Starforge going hey can we please have these and this is but it's
not worth doing like one or two when we did this one we were bringing more players than ever before
so we did a big order with them and they sort of like went yep absolutely everything on one of
those awesome yeah nice it's good for the PCs for the players anything else you want to
say before we round off uh no i think i'm good i'm very happy thank you very much you
you missed two beans. They're in solidarity.
Alright, eat them. I've eaten enough beans. I'm actually gaining weight from the amount
of beans I've eaten just accidentally. It's healthy fiber, it's good for gut health.
It's our lunch actually, when we're done with our shift, there's two beans, one for each.
If you do a better job, Preach comes in and gives you an extra bean.
Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Sam. I appreciate it. Thank you, Sam.
And we're back in Mythic Plus. Back to our regularly scheduled programming, Mythic Plus. I did see, I think we got some more donations. I don't know if that was after we hit the 5000.
Remember for $10, two games for love. We will review your transmog. You send in a 7TV emote. We will consider it for entry to the Echo Esports stream.
There was another thing, any wow screenshots you have, we can see as well, and Catpix, we love Catpix and Catpix.
Love those.
I may have miscounted if you aren't seeing any new donations, but you also look like maybe you're trying to read donations.
There are donations, we do have a 10 dollar donation by Wixip and they say medic beam 7 to V emote.
Medic beams? I don't, is that, does that exist already?
I don't know.
I don't really interact with beams that much.
Medic beams.
Which one isn't going to be me licking the operation tape?
I hope it is.
Medic Greg's already got made.
Which is just a massive sausage roll.
Beautiful.
Going into my mouth.
I saw that.
That's beautiful.
I've survived for six years.
I've never had those sausage rolls.
What is...
There's one in the fridge.
It's three days old.
Probably better.
You're like, I should have.
That's what's just getting better
along into the fridge.
Yeah, there's a nostalgia thing to them.
Like cold and mushy is the best way to eat those sausage rolls.
you keep saying how liking certain things does not like diminish your taste in like good food but
then the only thing i know about your taste is that you like all kinds of bacon beans and sausage rolls
three days we talked about dosa we talked about cheese and jam okay that's true fine fine you like
tuna with milk so i i still think you have good taste but tuna with milk is too far
All right, so we have $5 donation by Cinex and they say nothing all right
Thank you very much to next for the $5 to games for love three dollars by anonymous and they say
Greetings from Jerry the super dog and then there's a picture attached. We'll see production can get it up at some point
Yes, they can ever do their job. Yeah, I know
Then 25 dollar nation by Jace
please. Alright, and they're saying Preach just informed his chat that he's not included
in any of the donation goals. He's 100% no bamboozle feeling left out. Please include
our dear sweet clown. And just because he said that, we're gonna make sure that he's
not gonna... Well, we tried to get him in the tattoo one, and then he bailed on us
for that one. I'm pretty sure he's in whose line is it anyway, if he wants to
be. And he was doing something else before, wasn't he? He's in the Nehru bar, because
I want to feed him blood sauce. I want to feed him a weird mocktail that I'm making yeah
And he was like wasn't he like doing the thing with the Tabasco? No, that was just us
Oh, it's like bet some red. Okay. Okay. It was on where the jeep died or not on pause
We can add one like I would just make one up for preach if we hit
12 and a half thousand dollars. Yeah, I will pour a whole can of whipped cream like sprayer over preachers had
I can't promise that's gonna happen because preach will bail on it but if you go into his chat and say, don't bail preach then
Yeah, you gotta convince him because I mean he really wanted to be in it and now he can
Apparently we can't open that picture unfortunately of the previous donation
Maybe a problem with the URL or something
Sorry about that
I'm sorry about that
I'm sorry about that
I'm sorry about that
might be a problem with the URL or something so sorry about that but again if you want to donate
for a great cost and with a $10 donation you can submit either a transmog or a cute picture of
your pet maybe or a wow screenshot go look at your folder and see if there's any older screenshots
that you are really near and dear to your heart they're just pretty looking and you can have a
quick explanation on why this is important to you and then we're gonna rate it
we're gonna ruin the whole experience that we are
say it sucks it's horrible some of the purple in the sky or something
dude did we manage to find medic beans by the way
production okay i feel like that is that is a seven tv emote
i i think it's me saying beans but yeah it sounds a bit weird to me
oh i saw i saw a little jump up we have another ten dollar nation by
anonymous someone apparently in chat said made a comment and they thought it was so important that they
for us to read it that they donated ten dollars and the comment was echo making sure europe will
never beat the bad food accusations the bad food accusations here's the thing okay and whoever
this was anonymous firstly put your name out there i'm not gonna flame you i'm just gonna
to flame your opinions. 10 dollars for games for love, incredible. I will take all of the bad
food accusations you want to the dome if we raise more money for games for love. The second thing is
what's in Europe? Oh Paris, known as one of the food capitals of the world. London, although
English food isn't good, food in London is amazing because it's an international hot pot
of cuisine. Who comes from the UK? Gordon Ramsay, the most Michelin stars in the history
of Michelin stars have gone to that man and if you think Michelin are bad at predicting
who's good at food just look at their tires they have to drive all over the world to get food
what else is from Europe well we have Italy known for some of the best food in the world we have
Spain known for some of the best food in the world we have Germany we have Greece we have Greece
awesome for some of the best food in the world you can claim European food as much as you want
however we have your ten dollars and we're eating good so la di da let's actually get also we
went to a cologne restaurant it was actually kind of good it was big slabs of meat American food also
really good like if you go to good American restaurants very tasty food you know but generally
the problem is this is the big problem and this is way too i'm taking it away from the joke
now it's a serious food it is very serious let's talk about food the problem is i love food
It's so good.
It is very delicious.
People will judge foods by the lowest common denominator.
So it's like, I say I like beans,
and people like, medic only eats beans.
He's only ever gonna eat beans and beans are disgusting.
Therefore, medic's food taste is bad.
People see that UK food has things like tripe in it,
and it's like, why would you eat the inside of a stomach,
or why would you eat haggis, right?
Or kidneys, right?
Why would you eat kidneys?
I agree, why would you eat kidneys?
Some people like them.
That doesn't mean food from that place is bad.
It just means you don't like those foods from those places.
Yeah.
One more thing to note about, again, I think
You're an idiot.
That's the thing to note.
That's exactly what I want to say.
But I think some people are also very,
like, they haven't tried something
and they'll just immediately say it's bad.
And wow, how could you eat this?
That's disgusting.
Like, your food taste is horrible.
But then it turns out, like, they're actually
ones that are doing the wrong thing because if you don't try something how
could you know it's good or bad right? It was me with wow. I didn't play wow for years and
then I tried it and realized I really enjoyed it. I'd still mock wow players
because you know what are you doing the graphics suck? Why are you playing this game?
Just play New World you know? That issue wow players are horrible. We did
actually have that. Jesse very nice guy but he wasn't he didn't say that
Nice boss, that's so cool.
So he didn't say that Metz sucks, right?
But he'd never eaten that, and he was like,
this looks to me like I'm not going to enjoy it.
Then he tasted a bit of it,
and he said he had this weird dichotomy in his brain,
because he loved the taste of it,
but he did the thought that he was eating raw pork
later on in his mind, and I get that.
But if you don't try it, you don't know.
And maybe he'll try some more in the future.
I kinda wanna get us a Metagirl,
little, you know, headshot.
Yeah, that is very cute.
love that I do want to okay so this I mean I know it's mostly just a meme to
hold pineapple on pizza thing it's just a meme on the internet right like and I
think a lot of people have not tasted it but it's not the pineapple on pizza that
I'm necessarily like trying to defend here but I'm trying what I love is like
adding sweet stuff to savory things yeah like cheese and jam yeah and like like
like apple sauce with like certain types of meat yeah or even like pork is
like a traditional cranberry jam with schnitzel or something like that, right?
Mint jelly is sweet and you have that with lamb? Yeah, and all of this stuff like if you've never
seen it before like it I understand why it sounds weird like having sweet stuff it's something
savoury like it feels like it doesn't fit like people always think you have savoury things and you
have sweet things and they don't mix but they do actually mix and it's very good. Have you had
chicken and waffles with like maple syrup? Oh chicken and waffles, very tasty. And the
The thing is you have a track yeah in salad there's a lot of fruits you can put in
Yeah what's melon salad something we've been having a lot we see yeah very tasty
strawberries apples all good yeah apples with bacon actually apples with bacon
is again it's the pork and apple yeah that mixes is very tasty it's one of the
traditional sort of meat and fruit mixes that you can get a banana and
pesto oh yeah that's one that always gets people
yeah it's actually really nice banana and pesto in like you take a banana
And which kind of pesto, like just a normal, just a like a...
Pesto.
Put a bit of pesto on it.
That one's going to divide people, I know.
Because it sounds weird again.
I think pineapple and pizza, to me, is more of a discussion on traditional pizza versus...
Tell us if pineapple and pizza.
Do they?
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
You can have that pizza and...
This is...
Is that scent from watermelon?
I think it is.
Yeah.
I could see that being good, because the watermelon has that sweetness but also the refreshing water viewer.
To water down the mustard.
I mean, I personally just don't like mustard, so I'm probably not gonna like it.
I also think this is a less strong mustard.
If you were like a Dijon with the mustard seeds in it, I could see it being a lot better.
Is that like sweet mustard?
I think that's sweet mustard.
Because I do like sweet mustard a lot with the white sausage.
like white sausage isn't a big thing outside of like Germany as well yeah I
think it's very Germany yeah we don't really have white sausage the sausage in
Germany I don't like as much as the sausage in the UK yeah I mean I don't
like sausage in general I also don't like white sausage honestly like it's not
that great I just really like the pretzel that he had with it and the
sweet mustard yeah I can see that but you can't like it's not really
acceptable to go and just eat tons of sweet mustard with pretzels so you
You just have to pretend that you like the white sausage as well, you know?
Yeah.
My fiance, we used to get dinner together, and we still do from time to time, but she
doesn't always want the dinner.
She just wants the bread.
Just the bread.
And so, just the pita style bread thing.
So I would get the dinner in broth, and she would just get in broth.
No, she just had bread and then put sauces inside it.
She really liked it.
I love that.
Yeah, it was very nice.
But yeah, the pineapple thing, yeah, on pizza, it's like, I don't know.
Italians do some weird stuff with pizza actually, well, and I'm not gonna say it's weird
It's just like unknown to other people like for example in Italy. It's very common to have white pizza
But the dough has to be very good for it to taste good and I think the like a non-italian pizza
Very much focused on the toppings. Yeah, and not on the dough, right?
And it's telling pizza well depending on where you are in Italy, but like Naples pizza for example
They very much focus on the dough being very like they let it rise forever and then it's super fluffy, right?
And then they put very little on top. It's just olive oil, some tomato sauce or even white and like some nice
Cheese and that's it, right? Yeah, it's good. I remember when I was in Rome
It was you can get like the rouge or the Bianca, right?
Oh, I can't remember what it's having for red. Bianca just means white. Yeah, so it's white or red
Do you want a little bit of tomato sauce on it or do you just want it plain?
very tasty. Arancini as well. Arancini are my favorite Italian food I think. I don't like them that much, but they're
interesting. Oh they're so good. Because they're where I live. Yeah, they're reset the balls. They're very
interesting. They fry a lot of stuff in Naples. If you have any bad food tastes or good food
tastes or just eclectic food tastes, send them to us. We'll flame them and then we'll discuss
why actually it's not as bad as it sounds. That's what we're here for. They put fry
some pizza as well. Tell us some parts of it. Is that like a kid's meal? No, actually it sounds
really fries. Well, they put potato slices, which is also like thin. I don't know. Like you don't do
it where I live. Okay. So to me, when I heard it first, I was like, what? That's weird. And then
they also put fries. And it's also like a thing in Sweden. So whenever the sweets posted about
it, they're like, wow, you're telling mom would like, you know, whatever. But then it's
like, actually they tell us the same weird stuff. I think you're gonna find weird food no matter
way you go in the world or things that you don't you think is weird but my you
know it's that way also what do you think about tuna and pizza I don't like it
but mostly because I don't like hot tuna not because I don't know okay okay I
like you've heard of it and seen it before yeah it's weird because to me
that was like the most normal thing to them pizza but when I said that once
on stream they're like well so many people just like what tuna and pizza
And I was like, how is this not normal?
Because it's not even like a strange thing.
It's not like a sweet thing or something.
It's savory.
It's just tuna and pizza.
Why is it weird?
Oh, I said the maples, no.
No, it's fries with cheese curds and gravy.
It's poutine.
It's poutine.
Yeah, I had that when it was in Canada.
OK, so I liked it, but it's like I ate like four bites
of it and I felt like, oh my God.
Very filling.
Yeah, I was like, how can anyone meet this?
I'd never be able to finish a whole thing.
Yeah, but it is good.
Put a little bit of ham in there or something.
Yeah, and it's like deep fried, what is it, pickles?
Is it pickles?
I think so.
Maybe, I don't know enough about that.
I've never actually had like a lot of protein.
I've only had fake protein.
I don't know, like I was just,
it was like this experience where I went to Toronto,
it's lute, and he's like,
you should get the Toronto experience.
So we walked into this like kind of like pub and there was everyone just wearing um
Maple Leafs like jerseys because hockey was on and then everyone was watching hockey and then we all ordered protein
And it was and in the background you were like yelling at the tv or whatever and I like oh my god
That was crazy. I loved it though. Yeah, that's like that sort of atmosphere can be really fun
I think when you're just a lot of people enjoying where they are and who they are but not
like being too aggro about it, is when it gets aggressive.
Yeah, like Canadians we all know they're not like that.
We've talked about this on the heroic link, but I'll share with you as well.
The aboot sound, that OU sound, is a diphthong, which is two vowel sounds connected to each other,
unique to Canada. They don't have that specific way they pronounce that anywhere else in the world.
That's very interesting.
and I get to say the word diphthong which just shows I'm smart.
That's the important thing about this show,
showing how intelligent I am at every possible opportunity.
That's very vital.
Don't worry, we noticed.
Thanks.
But yeah, still M+. For now, lunch is usually,
oh it's in about 30 minutes or so,
so we'll see if the raiders decide to finish off at lunch
and then go into M+, or whether, sorry, Mythic,
or whether we're going to continue in M+, for a while.
We are currently in the City of Threads, just to finish the second boss which is Nixon Yix or Nixon Vix or something.
Kind of, I like the way I think this Mythic Dungeon in particular introduces you to a few of the mechanics you're going to see in the Mythic Raid, or just in the Raid in general.
you have the shared health bar on this boss and then later on you have both the like the
Dekage S and the Anubu Ash S bosses before you fight that final, I can't remember her name,
Kixi something. Yeah, Kricks. Maybe? I've written it down somewhere. City of Threads.
Izzo, Grand Spire. Oh, like it says right here. I've probably met a different dungeon.
I was like, I just say it on the screen.
Yep.
But I think it's the queen is NX and VX like it's just two letters, right?
I don't know how you pronounce it.
Yeah, Nix or Vix, NX, VX, you know, but they're kind of cool bosses.
I like them a lot.
So they are like when I looked them up because I was writing a guide for this dungeon too.
Oh, how did you pronounce that?
That's all the matter.
I said NX and VX.
NX and VX cool.
That's the name.
Or maybe I said thanks to the queen actually.
That's cool.
But I don't know.
I did say but NX is active.
Yeah.
I said NX and VX.
That's just how it's going to be there.
You're welcome.
How much do you pronounce the next boss's name?
The coagulamation.
Coagulamation.
Coagulamation.
Coagulamation.
Is it coagulamation?
No, so it's a pun.
You are actually incorrect in this one.
It's a pun on coagulation.
What's a coagulation?
Clotting.
substance that goes from quite liquidy to solid or more solid like jelly like
that's coagulation happens in your blood that's how you get thrombosis like
DVT's and PE's etc right um but or like a stroke or whatever but so this is it's
an attempt because you have an amalgamation I assume which is a group of
things coming together and coagulation so they've tried to combine the two
words in an amalgamation of the two which is a coagulamation
Oh we have a nice little riddle for production. This is City of Threads, Street of Beds.
A Street of Beds? Perfect.
Those look more like sweet potatoes to me than like just big sweet potatoes than breads.
Gonna be honest.
I do want to, I've never been to France properly, I've been there, well I've been to Strasbourg but...
Yeah that's not from France properly.
Yeah, it's like on the border, but I've never been like at a holiday like multiple days in
France and I just really want to go even though people sat kind of before holiday like maybe
I don't know like some people loved it and something second but I kind of just want
to go because I want to see like I want to wake up in the morning open my window and
And I want to see somebody on a bike that has like a baguette on his shoulder.
This is important, then I can leave.
That's fine.
You're just going to camp out at the pittisserie or the luxury or something.
I need to see this.
This is important to me.
I remember I went to the south of France with my other half for like a holiday after
the world's 2022? Yeah, 2022. I ended up not going to Warsaw, we went on holiday. And we,
I was like, it's fine. I spoke French in high school. I'll go to the Petiterie and I'll
order us some bread. I'll get us breakfast. Went in. First, first bit, I could practice
while in the line. As soon as they asked me a question, I was like, can't be in,
it's us. One of the things I've learned is because I'm learning German at the moment
as well. If you are fluent in a language, you don't confuse languages. So you know it's
German, you know it's English, Italian, whatever. But if you're not quite fluent, you will combine
the two languages, searching for the right word. So I'd ask half a question in French
and then I'd do half of it in German or something, because I'm trying to learn a language.
Also, like one thing that I've noticed a lot as well is, because I've had like
I learned Italian in school for like, I don't know, 13 years, because I mean, I live in Italy.
My first language was German. It's weird, don't worry about it.
But I learned Italian for a very long time. And at some point, like everyone else around
me that also was learning Italian, they tried very hard to like, get the Italian accent,
right? Because they were really like, we were all really good at speaking it eventually,
right? But with the accent just in more like German speaking Italians, like it's
a very different accent. And whenever we went on holiday, we would speak Italian
like pretty fluent Italian to people there. And they would always like talk back to us
either like in English or in German even. And we're just like, how do they know? And then
at some point when I got older, it dawned to me that like, it's not like the same. Like
not even close.
That's my biggest struggle of Berlin. Because so many people speak English, even if I'm
trying deliberately to practice my German going into shops, I'll go in. I'll say
a whole thing in German and then they'll be like yeah mate so what was it that you wanted to get?
I'm just like I'm trying! I just want to practice with people! It's even funner because my first
language is German but it's a German dialect. Okay. And I studied in Graz in Austria and I
went into a shop and I started like as I moved there I went to a shop and I started speaking
my german dialect and he answered in english he was german and i was like so i spoke back in german
and he kept answering in english and i was like wow like they really don't understand my german
dialect and from then on out i had to speak like proper german because it actually wouldn't understand
me and that is kind of crazy like that level of difference yeah that's what i was saying
i have been informed we need a rogue for splits so if you are interested in being a rogue or
Actually, you already have to have been a rogue and have a character that is available, I assume for Heroic splits, Mitch?
Is it Heroic splits we need, Mitch?
Yeah, if you have a character that is not locked out on Heroic, you can join Echo, type estimation, but I've joined Echo for the splits.
You can't just join the team.
Estimage more splits in the chat for all the information regarding that. Get in, get us some more splits done.
because that's what we love doing is more splits.
Oh yes!
So this is kind of the Decage and Iberash, Silkencourt wannabe bit.
Obviously it's not a real boss battle because you actually fight Iso afterwards, but I like
the idea of this kind of...
The whole premise of Narubar Palace is that Queen Ancerek has been experimenting, right?
And she has...
She's trying to evolve these ascended Narubians into the most powerful form that
she can.
So I like the idea that Iso is here and we fight them beforehand.
It's like, oh, these were the initial experiments that were happening before we had Takaz and Anubhavish created, you know?
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's very interesting.
Well, it's kind of, it actually became a little bit of a meme, because Blizzard has been doing this for a little while,
where they would introduce certain mechanics on the trash before bosses.
They did this in a raid as well and in dungeons too.
And when they started doing this, people were like,
oh wait, this is the boss mechanic, wait, this is cool.
And people were really excited about it.
And at some point, when people have this realization
that it's the boss mechanic,
sometimes it happened much later
while the other people already realized, right?
Then some writer will be like, oh my God guys,
did you realize that this mechanic
is actually the same of the boss?
And now it's such a meme that whenever it happens
that there's a mechanic that is being introduced,
then people do it on purpose like,
Guys, did you notice?
It's a boss mechanic, guys!
I don't know if you noticed this yet, but actually...
I should do it when you're like, time walking.
It's like, all of the dungeons are like...
Hey guys, did you know that this is the boss mechanic actually in this race?
Haven't done the raid in 20 years, but you won the boss mechanic.
So I think after this pull, or after Iso dies here, you're gonna be leaving the desk?
I see.
Oh, I see the desk.
The so-
The so-pass.
They're very cozy. I like the blankies as well, very cozy.
But yeah, I think Alex is joining you for a little bit before you go on lunch break as well.
Yep, that's the way.
We didn't get the breakfast today because we came in so early.
We didn't get breakfast but like from the previous days.
Well, it was prepared for us yesterday.
It wasn't yesterday's breakfast, I don't think, left over.
I think it was.
Oh, you think it was?
Well...
Doesn't matter. I'm just...
My point was...
Yes, it was still good.
Obviously.
Then we're going to get our well-deserved lunch,
which I don't know what we're going to get today,
but I'm sure it's delicious because Julia is amazing.
Julia has been cooking at some absolute feasts,
along with the rest of the team, obviously.
I'm really enjoying the watermelon and walnut salad.
Yeah, I really liked it a lot.
I'm going to give you a little bit of a spoiler.
I've seen a pie bottom, like a base.
So yesterday as well, yeah.
And I think that's gonna be dessert for today at some point.
And I think she cooked it from the WoW cookbook.
Oh, interesting.
It's like a berry, something like cake or pie.
I'm really excited for that one.
We've had three things from WoW cookbook.
Now we had the pistachio cookies, the goblin shortbread.
Oh, they were really good.
Yeah.
And then we had chicken legs when you went here.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Was it good?
Yeah, the chicken legs were very tasty.
Do you have a favorite dessert?
I actually like all kinds of dessert, honestly, but the dessert is delicious.
I like cake in general, just everything, pastry stuff.
I'm a really big pastry fan.
I think I wouldn't count pastries as my favorite dessert.
It wouldn't be like a dessert thing, yeah.
Yeah, it's like all, you know, have it alongside breakfast or something, it's a warm-up for the day.
Do you have a favorite dessert?
Probably lemon meringue pie.
Sure, I never had that.
It's like a gelatinous, lemony, curd-y type filling in a pie.
And then on the top.
Just a meringue, or just...
On the top you just put the meringue.
Interesting.
Or a cheesecake, I'm a big fan of cheesecake.
I also really like cheesecake.
Yeah, I'm a big cheesecake fan.
Not baked, like normal cheesecakes.
Yeah.
Baked cheesecakes a little bit too much for me.
Yeah, big fan of cheesecake as well.
Well, there we go.
On that bombshell, I think Alex is going to join us
in a second.
Should we listen in with Wave while we wait for Alex
to come to the couch and sit his behind over on that one
because I'm using this.
Hopefully no proc...
for Talja
see you soon
did we get Arakara?
oh yeah we did
and we got Mist and Arakara 10
that's good, so Merus we will
we will take the seats and then we do
what is the biggest thing we need?
Arakara has a neck as well, right?
or is it Mist?
no, it doesn't
we can truly do both
yeah, yeah
I'm rising.
I'm rising.
Let's go, Mist.
Yeah, you see the portal?
We get our portal, or we didn't do 10 yet?
No, we didn't. We did do 10, I don't know.
I think it was 9. Was it not?
No, actually we did it on 10. You're right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did it.
We have the portals to all of the dungeon.
I don't know, we're assuming.
We're except the wall within.
There are a carra and a cat, so...
I don't need to upgrade some atoms, yeah.
Yeah, I could upgrade Cloak, I guess.
And I'll just keep my...
I have the 90s, I mean.
I'll keep my Neurobian razors.
Well, what to do with my vault though?
My vault?
We're going mist, yeah?
Yeah, yeah, mist.
What do I find the teleports here?
It's under the old expansion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you want more damage than we eat and then we'll split?
I guess we do...
We're doing a couple of splits or what?
No, no, no, no. It's just...
Ah, there's a few people. Aha, okay.
They're doing splits for perfect...
Wait, shout out splits? We can do that, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, it's not a door.
I did swap all my beauties from 1 to leech, right?
Yeah
It's fun though
So I have 4,5,10 leech, right?
It's good
I'm in 10
So I'm good early, right?
Well, I'm on the blue team as I sabotaged either sweep
Maybe Micah's muted right now, I don't know
Maybe he's not
I'm talking to Shred, of course
I can't stop this.
I can't stop this.
Let's kick this freak.
I'm running.
Pinky.
Fucking freak.
Let's kill him and then we go over the guy.
I'm putting Gertrude on the screen.
That's perfect.
He's getting a live VTEC coaching right next to me.
In person.
Good.
Spongo.
Perfect.
Perfect to VTEC.
It is.
We're back.
I thought Acer was also hot pumping Galee.
Yeah, but it's not.
To this extent.
I was following my tank yeah, I was also following myself
I guess we're gonna be like ranked three way
Before we start like in the last 10 seconds we decide on who's gonna open the show
And I think Alex went like this. To gesture. To gesture that I should start. I didn't realise that so I just gave him a
Chris by 5. Just a nice little slap on the side. Yeah, vital pump now. I feel ready. Yeah, emotionally and morally ready for the day ahead.
Nice. Good to hit. Some of us have been up for 5 hours mate. Oh mate, no none of that. Just got up a couple of hours ago.
Nice.
Mosey Deen had some eggs, watched some streams, it's a good day.
It has been a good day so far.
Very much.
I just drew it myself.
Mythic Boss is still happening though.
Oh it certainly is.
Yeah they're getting ready for a fun day ahead as it seems that Brute Twister is an old one shot who would have guessed apart from me.
No I said it was like 15.
Yeah.
It's a lot more than 15.
It does seem to be, yeah.
Having a boss this difficult this early is a bit spooky.
Yeah, you also said it's a choreographed fight.
Did you realize? Cause I didn't and maybe chat didn't and that's why I show it and I'm the dumb one here.
Oh no.
What?
The charity goal was wrong.
What's wrong with it?
Read the sentence.
Oh yeah, no.
Who is lying?
Who is?
Can't.
Is it anyway?
Yeah.
That's truly a mistake.
Please fix.
Please fix.
Type O on the internet.
No.
Everyone else wins the argument.
Yeah, making it worse is fine, but it can't stay in this sort of middle down where it looks like a mistake.
Yeah, so Brew Twister. Every canister she gobbles up empowers that type of minion. It's not just the first one.
I thought for a while it was just the first one. I thought it was a much easier fight. You just pick the first one then you fight.
Every canister at the end you're going to have all the mutations all the time, very, very scary.
Yeah, that's the noise they make. That's the mutation noise.
Yeah, no, they've got, it turned out to be a lot harder than I thought it'd be.
I honestly thought it would be kind of chill, and you would just kind of...
The first guild that get there, maybe take 20, 30 pulls just to work out the correct route.
Turns out that is not the case. Or route, if you're from the U.S.
No, because you don't say route 66, do you? You say route 66.
Oh snap. What's Jesse talking about?
Well, they do say route, but Americans are very inconsistent with their lexicon.
Unlike the English. English are pretty good.
We only have seven different ways to pronounce OUGH.
Yep, that's a Tharikov.
Uh, what else?
That's it.
Thought that's the only thought I had about there's, um, there's like bow, like tree.
Yeah, you do.
G.H.
Right.
There's other ones.
Other OUGH's are available.
Okay.
And make some Sam, get up the seven different ways you can get out of G.H.
Ah, at $10,000 raise medic and well, it's no and it's medic.
Alex are both
well
Quotation damn pound at pound dollar pound dollar pound dollar pound
Exclamation mark. I like that in chat in reverse
It's an exam command. Oh
So it might happen something might happen. I like that you called it pound or not hash
That's a brave choice on the internet. Well, the big one is where you just call it tag
Oh, because it's hashtag, right?
I don't like that. No, no, that's too new for me.
Number symbol.
Yes, uh, quotation that number should book.
Chrissy Cossie Smalley Boy.
The tiny tic-tac-toe.
Um, there we go.
Whose cast is it anyway, round two? Thank you.
Speaking of Englishisms, that's one of them.
What? The Chrissy Cossie Tiny Boy.
The Chrissy Cossie Tiny Boy.
We have, like, the Pippity Pong machine.
It's the microwave, obviously. It's Welsh.
What?
Hibidi-pong?
Hibidi-pong?
Yeah, that's what they call microwaves.
Pobbidi-ping.
Pobbidi-ping.
I did still not say I've ever heard before.
Well, the Welsh language is incredible.
It is.
I can't help but feel that that is maybe not
the best example of it.
No, another great example.
Yep.
The Welsh love their individual language, right?
And they love telling people who go into Wales to learn it.
And I think that's very important that you learn language
in the area, right?
What do you think their word is for taxi?
Ooh.
I just say taxi.
Yep, so would they.
Nice.
A unique language to be sure.
Yeah, there we go.
It works the most better when Bedius is here, because then I can go through a bunch of them with him.
Oh, to get Bedius as well.
I see.
Yeah, no, unfortunately.
As a co-caster, I have far less to offer in terms of language.
Not only not Welsh.
I can barely speak English.
Let's let anything else.
Same, same, same.
You know what you can do?
Read out donations then.
And we've had a couple come in.
Oh snap.
You're entirely right.
Let me get that up.
We're raising money for games for love,
which is an incredible charity that works
with children in hospitals to bring them play,
to bring them distraction from whatever they're going through
at the time.
They also have internship and scholarship programs
and they do a bunch of really cool stuff for children.
They say that every dollar we raise
is basically a child helped.
Like, one to one is the ratio we're looking for.
So far, we're already over 5,000.
We have charity incentives as well at $10,000.
Whose cast is it anyway?
Two at $15,000 RC Rumble.
at 12 and a half thousand dollars.
Preach apparently was complaining on his stream
that he hadn't been involved in enough stuff.
So I said we would author a pie in his face at 12 and a half thousand dollars.
That's nice. He hasn't disagreed.
Well, that's, that's, that's, um, yeah, that's the same.
Let's find him for himself for that.
He should have heard about it by now.
That's his, that's on him at that point.
Just like the pie will be.
12 and a half thousand, Preach is getting pie'd.
20,000, we have a scoffed cosplay competition.
25,000, we have rated portraits.
Portrait. Oh, yeah. 30,000. We have International Caster
Appreciation Day where we give ourselves things to make you laugh.
Yes. $35,000. We have the Naruba, which is a mixture of
mocktails and not so nice. Mocktails and probably meat. Yeah.
Lots of meat. And then a $40,000 Nagura, Jesse and I, no way.
All getting crab or spider tattoos. I didn't know. This
morning on the couch. We will buy the end of it all the
Yeah, I will say we'll give her some time because the tattoo is a permanent addition to your body
She did know it's permanent at the time within the day. She did so did you say she did?
Okay, she asked me is it temporary and I said no it's permanent and she said oh, I'm interested in that as well
However, I will say things have been said on this sofa before in the heat of the moment
That don't always align with someone's views later on for example Red Bull and Beans
I say we give her a couple of hours to lock in that decision before we lock it in and give her some time to mull it over and then by the end of the day we will know for sure whether the goer has decided that but she did say it on the catch and at $15,000.
That's it apparently apparently you're gonna be in the sassy. That's right. You certainly are. Yep. You are
wonderful medic do the sassy. I'm sure we can get more than just the two of us. Just dragging me in kicking and screaming.
Roger and Skype for 50k. Oh that's that's a lot of that wouldn't be awesome. Roger and Skype sussing with us.
of course during Prague yeah well we've got some very interesting donations here
we've got a $10 donation in from preach apparently poor whatever over my head
I'm game yep preach agreed excellent that's a thank you very much preach for the
$10 wonderful have we got the picture from Andre by the way
production potentially have a little look at that donation just to make sure
that's cleared as we are clearing that here's a quiz for you okay we got a
$10 donation in from brutal Zen who says since we finally oh since we are
finally at mythic raid have has medic learned his wow ABCs going from A to Z
can he name things in game that start with each letter characters places
items or whatever as long as it's in game and it's in the law keep up the
good work and let's go now we haven't actually been told to do it the question
is can you I think I could and I kind of want to do it after we see the picture I
want to try let's have a little bit of that thank you very much Brutus and we
might come back to that and a 25 dollar donation yes from Andrew thank you very
much cat dogs request for spiders would bees do instead are the bees
That's amazing.
We would be nowhere without bees.
Yeah bees are good.
Great pollinators make all of our fruits or a lot of it at least.
Explanation about bees for thoughts on how to set up your own bee farm at home.
Is that a thing now?
Yeah, Natty has a command for it.
It's not a full command she writes into the, or they write, I don't know.
But yeah, they write into the chat saying.
Say stuff about bees.
Yeah, it's a seven step guide to how to set up your own bee farm.
Damn.
Okay.
good for you and you can also skin them and sell the skin on the auction house.
With the bees skins? Yeah, a lot of people who are doing the bee farm for the mount.
People killing bees? In the game. For a mount? Yes. That's not good. Come on Blizzard,
you're giving the wrong message here. But the bees were upsetting the meadery
and as we know alcohol over bees. Okay, now I'm on board. Alcohol over bees.
Oh man. Thank you very much for your donations thus far. Do appreciate it. Bees though.
I'm always a little bit spooked about bees. I never like touch a bee or like hurt a bee because bees are fine
But I have once being driving in a car window open
Moments later a tiny little thud on my chest and there was a very disoriented bee on my and I was like don't know what to do about this
This is a bad situation. You can't stop the car. The bees gonna get lost. You see 50 miles down the road just going up knocking on bee hives
Do you do you have some honey in there? Oh, I always look after a be though if you find a little be by itself
Yeah, give it a little bit of water and look there's sugar water
Sometimes honey, yeah the thing with honey is though at some point you reach
Dimension returns
Because it's like this bee has made at most the table spoon of honey in its entire life right probably less than that
That's probably a teaspoon if I give it a teaspoon of honey
net negative for the world. Wow. In that case, that comes from a doctor as well guys. I'm
sure that when you see a patient as well, you weigh up what their value will be and whether
or not it's worth the resources. Oh no, that's a sad look. I'm not going to say that's a
thing you do. Oh no. Oh, isn't the world way darker than I expected? Firstly, like organ
Transplants secondly in especially in the NHS is a thing called quality adjusted life years that may have changed since I was part of it
But it's the idea of
Every treatment you give it's a little bit sad a little bit more every treatment you give you weigh up how many
Quality life years someone will get out of that treatment and how much it cost
Oh, damn. So it's like how much did it cost per quality life here?
So something like a statin which helps reduce blood pressure great very cheap gives lots of people quality of life years
Put it out into the world right something like a an organ transplant and someone who doesn't have much I have long left
Even if they get the transplant very expensive quality
You just like this right so that's fair. Mm-hmm. Thanks to that. Don't give these honey and welcome Wow ABC. Oh
One of the first it wasn't there for no that was the bees there was one that I jumped to one you were trying to get yep
So yeah, no, we're gonna do the wow ABC's. Okay. Here we go
A is for Averus, who wasn't a good raid, 3 is for these where skins are made, C is for
carrots, you feed them to robots. It's one of the lamp light emissions.
Oh, there we go. D is for Dalaran. It exploded. Oh, no, lost.
I like this. I like this. Okay, okay. E is for Evoca. You've always got one.
True. F is for Fragments. A spark. They become...
damn okay g is for
you can do it yeah i definitely can i'm just trying to think are you trying to make the rhyme out of
it yeah i've gone from just doing the standard quiz to like the mythic edition oh what are you
g is for guild where all your friends are yes h yep jill h is for heartstone
It's usually a bar
Guys I'm very impressed. I is for icon. They're quite a few
Jay is for Jailer
He's watching you
You got five hours ago and you've been... whatever, sure.
I felt like you practiced this.
I have no... I promise you, like, you're gonna start to see me struggle when we get to the
dead.
Kay is for Keystone, a mythic entry.
What's up to Kay?
L?
Yep, there we go, thank you.
I agree because it was on the side of the screen.
L is for level, what was, what was a mythic entry?
L is for level, you stop at 80.
Nice, very nice.
M is for mythic, please do the raid soon.
I can't agree more.
N is for Nostromus, which one is it?
Nostromus?
Yeah, I think it's Nostromus, right?
Yeah, Nostromus, sure.
What was mythic, please do the raid soon.
N is for Nozdormu, he will be your doom.
Oh, he could be.
But he's one of the good ones, right?
For now.
Yeah.
Could be in the end.
Jailer can change him.
Yeah, time is a strange thing.
He's at the master of time.
Can you guys write the rest of the letters?
Oh, it's just a notepad, isn't it?
OK.
O is for, hmm, Oevos.
It's just an airport.
True.
P is for something that starts with P.
you know no I'm gonna get it he is for private aura oh it's not gonna rhyme that
of airports I'm a quick report you is a four queen her name is and Shrek nice you
are R is for raid leader how am I gonna run with answer a cancer egg um yeah
Q, R is for Raid Leader, Skype just is a wreck.
Not great, but it's not one struggle amongst the whole of them yet.
S is for Scale Commander, Deb's best talent, what's up to S mate?
T.
If you could just think of the next letter and then do this one you'd have to go.
I'm just sitting there just to be happily being impressed as if I'm going for it with you.
No, I'll put the next letter. That's my job.
T is for the Silken Court. I have to run with talent.
That's very difficult.
T is for the Silken Court. It's not for talent. I'm running with talent.
Guys, come on. Keep up. Like, come on. T is for the Silken Court.
We don't know the extent. Yes, the Silken Court.
The name of the boss is The Silken Court.
Okay, does don't count. We'll find a new one after I'm a talent.
Okay, T is for time walking.
I like it.
A dungeon with portent.
Sure.
You quickly move on before you can say anything.
U is for unseeming below Bloodbound Horror.
Oh, V.
V is for a word, what are we thinking of here? I'm sure there's a lot.
I can give you one if you want, you've done so well.
No, no, I don't want to help.
I'm going to get the whole thing.
V is for Velkoz, a league champion.
Sure, why not?
No, no, no, no.
V, okay, was that some lag on the stream there?
I think changing the colour on the font.
Why are the Ws and the A's weird now?
Oh, it's so cursed.
This ain't good. Wait what we got one V which now looks like a W. Which is also the next one. Yes V is for
Just this is fine
Sure. Oh V is for that's good
Violet
It's kind of the color of demon hunters. No it's demon. That's not it. No, no
That's a bit of a stretch. V is for what else have we had these Alex Charles. No, that's a name
I'm just gonna go for the Al-Draken!
Beats Kong Al-Draken!
We're gaming!
Um, I need something that rhymes with horror now.
Oh, God.
Um...
Don't know how we got there.
So, it's a forced rhyme, but it's rhymes.
It's good enough as we go into W.
W is for Windwalker, the monk's best class.
Um...
X.
X is for Xalatath.
Don't check out that.
Rhymes about the class.
Oh!
Very good. Why is for why the flip of my
What could why before hmm why is for Yogg-Saron
One of the old gods. Yeah, like that. Oh god, right? Yes. Yes, and then Zed is for
Tuff you spell it wrong
He's one of the old gods. Zed is for Zebra, the mount that gives nods, because you nod
when you see the Zebra mount, you're like, good match.
That's true. It's good enough. Yeah, I think Zebra's a pretty difficult one to...
Yeah, what would you have to do?
That'd be about it as well.
You've done far better than I would.
Well, there we go.
But I don't think that's a...
Oh, man. Production desperately trying to keep up. I like it.
Yogg's one has an apostrophe in the name actually, I think it's right.
I'm not going to be twisting the other series in the apostrophe, so...
Oh no, don't mess up with that.
One is for the keybind!
Zed is for Zebra, the mount that we love.
I don't know if the Zebras in the game are actually called Zebras, but they do begin with A Zed.
Okay, then we have to find a different Zed.
I think it's like, it's something...
Check, check, check.
It's something really stupid.
I'm sorry, chat, I let you down on Zed.
I hope you enjoyed the rhyming though to be honest you did go for the mythic version. I'm very impressed
If that means anything, which was this time it doesn't I'm very easily no one else is going for the flipping mythic version
Are they doing normal split?
Oh
Zevra, I think it is Zed H E V R a kid. That's Zebra with bad smelling Zebra. Yeah
Zebra, but with bad spelling
Zebra as well. This whole frack as well
Well, Zulfurak is an old dungeon, it's like troll stuff going on, didn't even think of
that.
Damn, chat's coming up with all the good ones.
Yeah, the thing with chat is there's more than two of them.
And one of them is, I'm sure most of chat haven't got someone who's completely gone
on the other side.
I would also collectively probably played more than two months of WoWs.
Yeah, and I'm not great with names, I very much forget everything.
I didn't even know that I still can't remember the name of the city that we're in this expansion. So there we go
Dornigal Dornigal. Yeah, it sounds like something from Harry Potter
Right because it's the Isle of Dorn and then you're in Dornigal. Yeah, it's like Professor Dornigal
Yeah, and then I can't remember the name of the place in the Binging Deeps
City of Threads in
Ashka hat. Ashka hat. Yeah, Hallowfall has a city as well the best mini game by the way
Oh god in Hallowfall. It's a it's a daily quest you have to play with the orphans
Oh, yeah.
And there's a game where you run along the fence, and you have to jump along the fence
and you put it in the extreme mode.
There's an extreme mode?
Yeah, it's a harder obstacle course.
And if you do it, you don't have to do three games, you only have to do that one one.
That's cool.
Very fun.
Very cool.
Highly recommend playing that game.
But no, thank you very much for the donation, of course.
That was, that sparked that.
Yeah, triggered it all.
Yep.
And we actually have got one more as well.
Oh, wow.
We have a Tendall's donation.
You do it in Cyrillic alphabet, please, Medic.
Sorry.
I want you to do it in reverse.
Zed is for a zaga hole.
Oh, no.
Whilst walking in a straight line and touching your nose as well.
Yeah, I can.
Just going to make sure.
See, here's the thing.
I know that's a test for, like, if you're inebriated.
I don't think I could do it sober.
What?
Close your eyes and touch your nose.
And do the alphabet backwards.
Alphabet backwards now.
That's happening.
Yeah.
I can better go forward.
Zed, W.
I must submit at one point when you was, like,
call out the alphabet ahead of me.
I was like, OK, I was about to Google it.
Sad times.
I was in the same boat, mate.
We've got a 10 dollar donation in from Ann who says banned on Twitch, okay fair enough.
So I can spam here, sassy sassy, I can do my dance like a touchdown, sassy sassy.
Thank you very much for the 10 dollar donation, I'm sure.
Very mindful.
Yes, so if you are just joining us we're doing a little bit of Mythoblast Farman,
doing a little bit of heroic as well, I think they're doing some of the, they're trying
to get a heroic split on the go.
They're doing a heroic split right now.
Yes, we're gonna be splat slam through those until lunch time. I imagine and once we're back from lunch
Yep, I was just it's plan rather than spam
I'm is a mixture of splat and slam
And spam which is delicious. It is
Spam on my what I'm asking wow I thought of it. I'm initially repulsed
But I didn't ask the case of anything to do spam. It's not a good-looking meat
No, but it can taste real nice. You can yeah, and it comes in I think Hawaiian cooking
They do a lot of spam and pineapple and such. I think maybe it's like Fajian
There's a place where spam is a core part of like traditional cooking and it looks amazing all of the time
Oh, so I'm a big fan
I can't remember exactly where it was chap will tell me they'll say something like France or
or island or no, they're memeing us.
Yeah, can you check?
I'll check chat.
Check chat.
Check chat.
Check chat.
I feel a check chat.
Check chat.
I've seen it in Korean cooking, says one person.
If one person in chat says it, that's definitely
means that is entirely true.
It is entirely true.
Philippines, people are saying as well.
And Hawaii as well.
Yeah, I think it's a lot of places
that were military bases, because spam would be shipped
out to the...
Oh, OK.
And then it would kind of seep this way into the food.
Yeah, very tasty.
Very good. That is gonna be, you know, I'm not sure if I'd necessarily throw it on a pizza though.
No, I can see it working.
Like, as I've got older, I want less and less on my pizza.
Yeah, and the girl and I were talking about this earlier, like a traditional pizza, you go to Rome, you can get a Bianca, which is just dough, olive oil and salt. No tomato or anything like that.
Oh, okay.
You can get like a red, I can't remember the Italian word, I think it's Ruge, with just a bit of tomato sauce on it. Very tasty.
I imagine it would be.
Really delicious.
Don't tell it to Mike.
Do you know, he went to Rome and he said the food was,
and I quote, mid, well.
But the thing is, it's so easy,
especially in the modern age,
where like things becoming a bit more melting potty
all around the world, right?
You can find McDonald's anywhere, whatever,
you know, whatever, right?
So easy to get bad food.
True.
Like, you can go to places you think are like good food,
but that touristy and you don't like get the actual
food. Apparently he went to places
that were recommended by locals.
Well, I just doesn't have any taste buds.
Then puppy.
Well, I don't want to say it, but have you ever had arancini?
I might have, but I can't remember the name.
They're fried resauceable.
So it's a resauceable deep fried.
This sounds ridiculous.
It is the best thing.
It doesn't sound very healthy.
It's not very healthy, but great.
Hungover snack or drunk snack is like,
it's doing a level for me.
Doing an arancini in the next three weeks.
We had like poutine on here earlier, right?
That looked like great drunk food.
100%.
Yeah.
It looked fantastic.
When we say drunk food, what we mean is if you've been drinking water
and you want some food, it looks good.
Yes. Or copious amounts of alcohol.
What are those two?
Oh man.
You can see many very interested in this blend.
Fascinated.
So excited that they ran off a high speed.
Yeah, perfect as the same.
Chilling nice to him.
So this is Arakara, a city of echoes.
Perfecto and Mini having a little chat.
It looks like maybe Mini given Perfecto some DK tips.
Perfecto maybe, what, DK's slamming.
Yeah, so hard.
Well, we saw Kush this morning, no Perfecto,
in the few pools that we had this morning.
Oh.
So I wonder if maybe Perfecto is trying something
that isn't a rogue.
That's unacceptable.
Yeah.
Won't allow it.
You can see actually so many mecha-nomes, so many mecha-nomes.
Why is that, Alex?
Because they're really cute.
Yeah, so they're really cute.
They're not cute either.
I don't think that's the only reason.
They're kind of terrifying.
The passive is to give a little bit of baseline stats
while you're in combat.
It ramps up and then it's there.
Which is normally kind of mid,
but at the beginning of an expansion,
especially an expansion where you really care
about main stat, which it seems
like a lot of classes do right now.
You know, the secondary stats are definitely lower
their weight in terms of how much each point gives you DPS wise seems like it's a really
good increase that just baseline having a ton of it next to as we get more and more gear
will be less of a overall increase to your damage just because it's going to be like no
like a 2% it's also it's based on level importantly yes when you get like high level
lower relative item level it's much more impactful whereas if you have a higher
item level and your level is the same exactly yeah so throughout the expansion it in
theory will become worse. Yeah everyone will become trolls then. Yes, it used to be that
everyone at no point would you go Alliance. Playing Alliance in raids was kind of trolling.
There was only a few in the top 100 maybe like five Alliance guilds. Just because the
ratios of Horde were that much stronger and even when it did become nerfed there was
no reason to rush over to the Alliance. Everyone stayed Horde. It's only really
now that you're starting to see a lot of people go back over towards the Alliance
and mainly there for dwarf and night elf ratio.
No they're there because it's the good side.
Mainly there for dwarf and night elf ratio.
I mean that sounds like something a dirty horde player would say.
I have got several Alliance characters.
Yep.
All dwarves and night elves.
Some of us stick to our class because it is the right choice rather than because
of what it gives us or our faction I guess.
You know?
No I'm purely there just to leech off of exactly the...
Yeah, I will also say some of us stick to Alliance because
I see only people that have Dragon.
No, both sides can be Dragon.
You can be a Horde Dragon?
Yeah, true.
I'm a Horde Dragon.
Oh, interesting.
Maybe I should be having the Dark Side.
It's not the Dark Side.
It's simply the slightly more optimal side.
How many main Horde characters were there in the war with them?
I you could ask the same question of a life so I still wouldn't know
This would have
We have the blood Elf lady
Yeah, it's not really hard
She's a blood Elf nice good enough own thing
And then we have thrall. Yep, and then the only other life
They undead lady
Uh, Phos, whatever her name is, Liliana Phos.
Yeah, Liliana Phos.
I keep saying Liliana Phos because there's a planeswalking
actually the gathering called Liliana and she
used her necromancer like an under...
Oh.
Illyria is a void elf.
I don't know.
That was very insane.
Good job, man.
Yeah, there we go.
We got it.
Okay, so you have two.
Well, yeah.
You have Liliana and you have a troll.
Um, then, um, Jaina.
She's a dreadlord.
Who's Horde?
Is she?
Yep.
I always assumed Jaina was Alliance, that's my mistake so you've got three.
Jaina is Alliance.
I'm just trolling out.
Oh man, I like um...
It's a little unfair, I know a little bit about it.
I'm so sure Jaina is Alliance but they've told me and they've said this word dreadful
but I don't know what that means.
Ah yeah.
Now you're right, well the thing is all of the good horde characters, you know
They were in in that you know, there's no good hold characters. So I don't know man
What's what's so good about the alliance you go you get the characters. Yeah better. What's so good about andwin
He lost it and then you go back through the power of friendship
I don't know if I lose my keys and then I find them again. No one's making a cut scene about me
Are they yeah, but did you bring Kaga back to life? I
Think I would have done everyone a favor just by leaving him and that is the horde mentality
We are trying to kick I out. Oh wow him right and I was like how much honey are you gonna make it?
The witch kind of Agma looking at Gandalf
Like you show another party. I that stuff is broken
Yeah, you know I haven't forgiven our good friend Katka for what all the way back
this once again grayscale production but all the way back in not legion
wall of the journal we had a quest where we need to gather four thousand nine
hundred and sixty-eight apexus crystals for it and the quest text was like yep I
need exactly that many he was taking the piss he was taking the piss and we
still had to do it and I'm still won't forgive him I think that was all
the way back it sounds like a long time ago I hold a grudge the turtles were
trying to make it to water that was a couple expansions later oh really yeah
That's like an old meme. Yeah, this is old. This is old old memes back in Mordor's Adrenal
How many was it? 4900 and 68 or something? I don't know. It's not like I cry about that number every night
Remember in my dreams. Okay. You messed up. Yeah. Yeah, I'll never forgive
But the horde mentality is because of that he deserves to die
Yeah, I wouldn't mess him
Ank old man
He can't, he doesn't have his star!
Ah well.
Kadgar's any spells.
Should repair before you pull.
That's so true.
You know, I'm not putting that.
Kadgar here just pulling at 0%.
Yeah, Kadgar should get an auto hammer and sort his own stuff out, you know what I mean?
I'm just...
In the middle of a cutscene, Kadgar gets on a yak.
What's that guys?
Don't pull, don't pull!
Oh, poor Kadgar.
I didn't even know he was dead.
Well he kind of got sucked into the twisting nether by Zalatath, and then he comes out when you break her amulet in the final cutscene of this movie.
Oh I did see that cutscene.
Yeah, and then he's like lying there and Illyria goes up to him and he's like, no not Katka, oh no you're my oldest friend and she's like a billion and he's like 12.
How old is Katka?
At least four.
Okay.
Minimum.
Minimum of four.
But like, do you ever think about that?
It looks pretty old.
fan-wise immortality versus not immortality yeah I guess in the ocean
idea yeah I suppose it's a really good anime about that
freerun you've seen freerun it's not like I don't watch anime it's just I
don't really get around to watching many of the good ones freerun is really
enjoyable it's about this heroic party it's kind of Dungeon Dungeon
Dragon sea wowie where this part saves the world but then the few in the
future they're like they all meet up and she's realizing everyone else is
while I'm not aging and she's learning more about people mortality. Yeah, very cool.
That's um...
Katgar's 54.
That is not true.
How old is Illyria?
Katgar being 54, that is... I'm just saying that...
Guy looks old.
He could look after himself a bit more.
Where's your skin care?
Moisturize me.
Moisturize me.
Yeah, he's too busy.
Skincare's so important as well though.
As you can tell, I do none of it.
Boots?
Bags, wrinkles.
I've been told that it's important.
I'm good to be the control group for this.
Yes, exactly. You need to be able to compare it to something, you know?
But yeah, I'm surprised he's only 54, because he's an aged man.
He looks like someone that I would help across the road.
Well, I'd watch someone else help.
2800 years old!
Damn, and Cadgo is our oldest friend?
Yeah, exactly.
That's the problem though, because immortality is immortality.
It might be other immortal yeah, if you make the elves mad they stay mad. That's kind of that thing
Oh, they hold some grudges. Damn, okay, fair enough. Who else are you gonna come friends with? Other elves?
Katie's gonna be cool. Yeah, Katie's gonna be cool. I'm just gonna try and put you into his phylac, phylactery
Yeah, it was choked out in Warcraft 3. Were you in Warcraft 3 in Jojo? No.
Oh
Yeah, all right. Yeah, I think he's just been eating all of our pexus crystals or whatever it was
Yeah
We desperately need to watch a noble video
How did Andrew's nose change this is the big question did he I remember I remember seeing Adam as a child
When I was 10 playing classic and he was sat all the way in his dad's throne because his dad was off doing something
I kind of met Varian they go. I remember Anduin's dad name. Yeah, he was also alive. And he was dead. He's dead now spoilers for Legion
Super dead
Legion yeah, he died all the way back then well the best part about spoilers for Legion is if you want if you get the
Downing Man heartstone and you can't use it you have to do the Legion quest like you skip it
You can skip it. Big skippers.
You just click on the guy next to the exclamation mark and say, hey, Legion sucks.
There's like a-
The one thing I don't like about final-
Wait, did you see this route?
Oh, they're going to the left.
Oh, so you have to get a really annoying mob that stuns you.
That unskippable stun is now skippable. Excellent.
Yeah, that's a really good route. I'm going to start using that.
Yoink.
One thing I'm a bit sad about with while getting a storyline is now people are giving me-
giving me a bunch of crap for skipping it because in Final Fantasy you're not allowed to skip,
well you are allowed to skip, but you would be missing out on some great stuff.
I actually really enjoy it, the only thing I do skip is one of them speaks Uriyange, he
speaks in Shakespearean language so sometimes it can take him quite a while to get out
there and not all of its voice acted and I'm here to play, not to read.
What lights through yonder window breaks the cocoa bows on the plane.
You're so close! So close!
Damn it!
Damn it, dude!
They're coca-bos now!
That's the brown coloured ones!
Because they're chocolate coca-bos!
You can't get chocolate coca-bos, that's true!
Very good!
I like that. I'm a big fan.
BS, no, I couldn't care less about the story.
And I'm not sitting watching cutscenes.
War Within Story is good.
And I understand you have some
Harbour resentment against WoW Story.
Because it hasn't been exemplary
throughout the history of WoW.
I will say, being willing to take a few moments to regard the masterpiece that has been made for us.
Ah, masterpiece is probably a strong word. It's a very good story. It's not quite masterpiece levels yet, but it's very enjoyable.
Sorry!
That's why you described it.
I would put it in a good category.
Good out of 10.
I would say 7 out of 10.
7 out of 10? That was so bad!
Oh, there's a couple of optional side quests I would put in the 9 range.
Oh, I actually was paying somewhat attention to some of the optional quests.
Like I remember there was one where you're going around,
Like you have to like collect some reagents for some fellow in how I fall and then he like you go like a little teleporting
Yeah, teleport around and all that sort of stuff and it's really cute
And then he's like oh I cast teleport instead of portal
So just make it back at my house and you go back and he's dead and it's like
No, well he was actually killed by an alliance player. Yeah, there we go not to be trusted
It was Kush just really mad he's got in the raid.
Kush is just dowing him in the fence.
I'll show you, Roach.
Full assassination.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, that was kind of sad.
Yeah.
That's a couple of good ones.
Not as sad as this mechanic.
I must admit, I'm not a massive fan of this fight.
We have to go inside of the puddles.
Yeah.
No.
Get your feet wet.
Oh.
Oh, don't.
No, flashbacks.
I can't.
I just got like shivers up his spine.
Understandable.
Yeah.
more yes so it's like this count yeah but um all they might be doing in this
way just so they can just quickly go kill a mob if you take the left you
need one percent so it's a kill the boss because you have to and then go up here
kill these mobs and you're done that's fair that's fair have you done any myth
it was yet I need to apologize I did it I did it was to all right I'm very
much still learning of okay I had my raid build on oh I didn't know what I
It was meant to dispel my tank hadn't ever tanked that M M zero
We did finish it
That's good. We didn't time it. Do you know what your overall time was like 36 minutes?
That's not so bad. Yeah, what was the time for the dinner 30 was 32 or 30? Okay. What dungeon was it?
Dawnbreaker. Oh, okay. Yeah, fair enough. That's not so bad
I mean, it's not it wasn't for fall for like a brand new tank going in in terms of not knowing where to go
And you as a healer not knowing what's going on. It is quite overwhelming healing
Yeah, like a lot of people would probably agree if they've done a lot of mythic plus even tanking or healing can be
Some of the most overwhelming and difficult parts of mythic pluses you're getting into it
DPS just and this is someone who DPS is all the time DPS is just kind of there
That's a slap face and sometimes kick
It was also the dispels would come off just before we mounted and on the first boss
She does these I can't remember what they called it. It shows a little dagger on the unit frames, right?
And it's a dot over the next 10 seconds or so, so right she would put it out
People would have the dispels on they'd all mount up and I wouldn't be able to dispel everyone in time
Of course, so then they die while flying around
And then they'll be like how are we dying in the air?
It's like what I can't really dispel you all in time. Can I cuz you're just dead
I guess I guess you just want to sit on the planet because you can like that cast takes like a week, right?
That's what she explodes.
That's what she explodes.
And you can be in the darkness, I think.
I think you can chill in there for a little while, yeah.
At least towards the very edge of the ship whilst it's expanding.
Yeah.
It's also like, if I dispelled as the debuffs come up, it would have been fine, but I was
focusing on, you know, my rotation and everything.
So it's definitely on me, it was a learning process, one of the DPS got a bit mad, but
then was kind of the end when we finished, so it was one of those, you shouldn't
learn in M+, and I was like, well, it's not really anywhere else for me to learn.
M0 doesn't have all of these mechanics, right?
M0 shouldn't, in theory, have the mechanics,
but they won't necessarily be dangerous enough.
Yeah, exactly.
The other mechanic that I forgot existed in M+,
is that you have to kill a certain amount of hands.
Yes.
So we killed the second boss, the big tall...
Yeah, the one within the little city
that you're clearing out.
Yeah, so we don't have the three mini bosses,
then we did that one.
And then the rest of my group stayed at the bottom
to kill stuff.
Yes.
I flew up to the dorm breaker
because that's what you do in M0.
I then died on the way to the dawn breaker
There was like an enveloping darkness, you know how sometimes if you fly in the room
I died respawn on the dawn breaker and you can't mount up again because that's where the next bosses
So it counts you as in the boss fight
Hey guys, I'm really sorry. I did what I would do an M zero and they're like well
We just have to fight the boss now and then get ads afterwards
We did it sounds like you're right menace dude. I'm looking at
Exactly! And it's like, none of it was intentional, obviously, but I had my raid build, I wasn't optimized, I didn't play it well, I apologized to them afterwards, like, hey, sorry am I bad, I'm still learning, and they were good about it in the end.
I think most of the time if you communicate with the rest of your team, just like, yo, might be a little bit rough, apologies. Some people will still be pretty shitty about it, but I think, like, especially as people get older playing this game, people have a bit more patience.
If you said that like 10 years ago, most groups would be just like, ah, you know.
Yeah, exactly. But I think there's still situations where that definitely will happen.
But I'd say it's more likely people will be like, ah, fair enough.
We're all new once, we're all learning bits and pieces.
It's also why I try and usually do at least my first rotation of mythics with Mythic Plusters with my guild.
Yes.
Because I'm like, they know who I am, they know how good I am, they can work around me.
And a few of them would be like, oh, we prefer to do high levels.
I'd prefer to do, you know, M2 to M4.
I should get in it. That's fair.
Four plus or whatever.
Do you say plus four?
Plus two plus four.
Yeah.
Plus it's so strange.
It's like retesting at the end.
It's got nothing to do with it anymore.
It doesn't exist.
I had a while in League when I first started casting.
There was a player called Vizicacci.
And everyone called him Chachi for short.
But for some reason on my first cast,
I came in and just called him Vizy.
I was like, Vizy's gonna look for it.
And so everyone was very confused.
Why did you keep calling him busy?
That's my bad, my bad.
Lesson learned.
It happens all the time though.
It does happen all the time.
I like as a group of casters we still don't agree to any terminology on fights either.
Well, as an example of Brute Twister, what are we calling the things that the boss eats?
Canisters.
I decided, because Nogua said canisters today and I was like that's the best word for it.
That is the technical term as well.
Frank is also there.
I was like what do you want to call these things that the black bloods in and she said Frank?
Frank it is I guess. There's some mechanics in this instance where the boss goes mad when
no one's in range of them. So this boss is an example they were throwing themselves around
doing a bunch of AoE damage same with the Bloodbound Horror also one of those fights.
And I didn't know if there was an actual technical name for that mechanic.
You know we range in range. I was calling them a tantrum
Yeah, because like as if the boss is like tantruming because we can't reach anyone a friend of mine said that they should just be called Bernard
So that's a Bernard mechanic now. Okay
Someone called Bernard who gets angry and there's no one nearby. No
It does. I just really like burning like a baby whale sort of thing. Yeah, I like tantrum
It's nothing wrong with Bernard
just not relevant to the current situation Alex probably is a focus up on the
wow game
oh wait I wish I could oh no we can't go there we are back in with ration and
ration and getting destroyed it's still not sure what sort of creature ration and
is think they are a ascended ascended nerubian not doing too well because I
tried to look up when I was doing my research I remember thinking I should
look up what are the nerubians that have been fought by invades and such?
Sure.
Didn't do it.
Oh well I can give you a little rundown.
I should do it.
Can you give me a little rundown on that?
All of the nerubians we've ever fought go.
So there is a spider wing in Naxxrammas.
That's spiders though.
Is that nerubians?
There are mobs that look like these sort of scarab style mobs.
I don't even assume that they're nerubians.
I don't actually know for sure.
But if you want the nerubian-esque nerubian style, nerubian adjacent is what we
very cool them. Yes, then, Naxxram has had some of those. We also had some of these large
scarab-like creatures. I don't think we had them at AQ, maybe we did. But let's move on
beyond that. Don't want to talk about classic. Rafa the Lich King, the last boss in Trial
of the Grand, oh, Trial of the Crusader generally, which was like a tournament-based raid. Really
interesting, no trash, all fire all the time. One of the fights was, you're fighting,
like if you're a horde, you would fight against an Alliance PVP team, so it would
like the NPCs but they're like a like a known warlock and one called XX Sportsway in 1969.
Just got a crush on Flare and all this sort of stuff. Really really cool and then halfway through
the right at the very end of this tournament that you're having to celebrate the whatever's
going on I don't know but you did the floor breaks and then you find a big nerubian down there
and you fight nice so very cool and if you did the whole thing without anyone dying you basically
got an awesome achievement for it like oh perhaps you did the entire thing with no one
on dying at any point yeah like it was um that was first done in net dramas and
undying achievement for that so then we go pretty cool so yeah for sure like
um they don't really do on dying anymore which I think is a fun feat of strength
gives you a little title they don't need to like do amount or anything I wonder
if it's because like they're worried that it will like lead to toxicity like as
if you do a raid and then someone dies and you're just like oh god damn it
Yeah, but like I think unless you've titled it as we are doing an undying raid
Please being discord with us so we can be undying like that. I feel like an undying
Challenge is exactly that right you should be in a group deliberately planning to do it
It's gonna be hard. You know, it's gonna be hard. So that shouldn't be toxic
I think it'll be a fun thing for them to reintroduce to it for each raid series. Why not?
But then again, I'm sure they'll release a raid that occasionally
It's super likely that one guy just dies and you just resum and that's just like a part of like the way the boss works
But that would be a sad thing to do so that we can find rubin sort of throughout time and space
They did try and get rid of that
General like you told about cheap death mechanics in such a possible one person would soak a bunch of stuff
Then I and then you just resum. I thought you said they were trying to move away from that. They generally have yeah
There was a whole point funny enough back in Legion as well where it was getting really really out of hand like the last
few bosses in
The Tumus Sargeras was the name of the raid and then one of the very very difficult boss was Fallen Avatar
It was the penultimate boss. It was awesome great great fighting so many different ways
But what happened on a timer there would be these pools four pools
You needed to soak as a group that did split damage
The idea is that you'd split up into four groups of five
There was so much other things going on at the time and group very quickly realized that rogues could settle it
Yeah, so they just got four rogues in and it was the rogues job that just soaked them every single time DK's could do the exact same thing
So and two missile guys had lots of those soak mechanics that you could just have a rogue solo
So got a called a tomb of soak garrus
And then they were just like we're gonna stop this after that we're like the next year
None of that we're not having any more of your guys cheesing. Last two bosses are full of immune cheese
So they did drop the ball.
They tried. They tried.
But since then, in all fairness, it's been very good.
Generally speaking, they don't expect you to have a full immune comp.
Now, there's other criteria that you're going to have in the raids, I suppose.
I don't think there are 15 people in this raid.
I think just perfect those raid friends are kind of trash.
No, it's not. What is he running over?
That is a machine, a little toy, that each time you run over it,
it will change you into a different race and gender combination.
So you can just keep cycling until you find something that you like.
It's only you do one way.
No, no, no. It's just purely cosmetic.
Do you think it was a really small character?
Maybe.
The character model changes with the size.
Like the head box.
It does, in a way.
Yeah, in ways.
We also had bosses where the boss broke
if you brought classes that were too big.
There we are. Smallest one.
There we are. We're cycling.
Full Mulligan.
Smallest one.
What I frequently do in my groups is that you run over it until the boss is pulled.
Or until the key starts, you just keep going.
And then whatever you're left with at the end is what you get at the end.
I mean that's probably what he's doing here, right?
Yep, there we go.
What's he going for? Is that panda?
Yeah, that's like a little panda joke.
You can't really see because you can't see the front of it best.
Look at how small that guy's head is.
I was a very small headed man. That's a panda.
I love pandas. Very, very good.
I play panda for the longest time.
I don't see any pandas or a head.
time. Everyone's forgotten pandas. Maybe for the best. It's a strange addition to the game.
A panda monk though. That seems fitting. It does. It's the expansion the monks were introduced.
Very very frightening. Just a tiny bit frightening. So yes, if you are just joining us,
we're doing lots of little bits and pieces to pick up as much gear as possible as you can see
Liquid working crazy hard on Brute Twister last night. They're getting a whole 80 pools
or just have 80 pools on that boss at 620 iron level basically and even they're struggling
with the output. They were saving lots of people at phase three though. Yes, there's
by no means are they fully optimized. Yeah, like they were trying lots of different
roots and routes and they were trying lots of different compositions. So, you know,
A whole load of things, like, it's not like the boss is unkillable right now, there's still lots of work to be done, and it just seems like a tough fight as well, very very fragile, one thing goes wrong, one ad is unkicked, one egg is unbroken, all goes out of here.
It seems like the big thing that we've noticed on looking at walk-off logs for liquid is the tank bus, because it hits the tank, and then for the unmitigated damage, it explodes after a little bit of time, depending on how low the tank's health is.
Exactly, yeah, so you want to get the tank really very topped up yards full like big personals as well
I think that was one reason that they went for
Three tanks in the end. Yeah, because you could just have the two tanks just doing the boss stuff and that third tank constantly doing with
The little spiders going about
It's true it's even in the name
Colossal spiders from colossal eggs
The A sports. Um, yes, I think we have just been told though the lunch time is here and I think that also means that you are going to be leaving me here by myself for four hours.
Yep. Jordan's not coming. I'm sorry. That is true because it's Mike. Mike isn't coming. I'm sorry.
Well, it's been wonderful to pass with you. It's been a lot of fun these last five hours or so. I'll be back tomorrow obviously.
Hopefully we see some mythic pools!
We will!
And if you find yourself in a position where you're desperate for some mythic pools you're always welcome back.
Well I appreciate that. I do have to write some notes in League of Legends.
That is very fair.
Yeah, and the world's going on.
Yeah, well I'll let you prepare.
We're gonna go and have some lunch. Do be back after the break there because we're gonna have some mythic pools, I'm sure of it.
Maybe, maybe more. We'll find out soon, okay bye!
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I don't know if we still have a freehouse.
Because they don't have a phase 2 again, watch out.
Yeah, we ended the webs.
Like Vexian's...
Vexian, Canix I guess, the one, or is Canix Ferre?
I don't know.
Vexian, any sort of tanking out.
Yeah, it's hot, it was swag, yeah, that's good.
started with Svegg and we're going to try to wrap the boss in last phase as well for you two
but other than that I'm going to be doing the pull-up.
I see just Pink.
That's good. The boss watched a Fumto coming in.
Face the world first.
Launch has been eaten and Mires has been serenaded by the crew for his lovely birthday
which was ruined by Medic.
Now unfortunately the surprise was destroyed but my name's Preach and I am joined by the
the wonderful Finnish dragon himself. Mr. Frago, how are you doing, man?
That's me.
What are you thinking? We have now got a race.
Yeah, I mean, we got the minute we started.
I think Brutwister seems to be a bit of a more difficult challenge than anticipated.
But we'll see how it goes today.
I think it might die today, maybe.
Yeah, I think in our predictions, we had Brutwister on about 40 poles,
you know, a little bit of coordination, a little bit of difficulty,
and then she's a big girthy girl.
But you're going to be, what are you going to be doing that?
Because you've been playing this like weird role of like a support.
You've been arg, healer, dev.
Where are you going to sit into this composition, you think?
Yeah, we'll see.
Probably currently thinking of augmentation of the scale commander.
I think that's what our friends overseas did as well.
Yeah, playing super stuff, I did the fifth heel role.
I was kind of the plan, but now Mason is also doing it.
I think they're both kind of capable to do it.
So we're kind of flexing around, we play devastation, play elevation, we're doing it.
Are you happy with the... I want to know about the Heroic Week.
So, if we're back, they're not going to do it again.
But it has meant that we got into Mythic on day one, which hasn't happened in an eternity.
Did that feel better or would you prefer not a Heroic Week,
a few days of more concentrated splits and then into Mythic?
Well, I think the more, well, not really relaxed spirit of Heroic Week is kind of nice,
But of course we are currently doing 16 characters because the preparation is evolving all the
time.
So you have Heroic Week, you have extra time, so why not do 16 characters for fun?
Was that the requirement?
We were trying to work it out because we mirrors had 14 tanks.
I think mirrors had like 18, except for 20 or something characters because we had some
now coming in instead of Andy.
So he had to switch some classes, so I think he leveled up 20 at least.
It's just what a bit of characters.
What was your reaction when the message came through?
Or were you part of the conversation of like,
okay, look guys, it's going to be like 16 garages?
There was some talks with the guild.
I mean, you know, some people pushed back against it a little bit more.
Some didn't.
It's fine.
I do what I'm told to.
Well, you're old school.
You're super old school.
Obviously far remember Paragon.
And I've been in the world first scene now for as long as some of these old heads here.
So I'm still enjoying it to this day.
Every time I see you play, you're still like, this is cool.
cool I love it so much what keeps you going yeah for sure I mean I just enjoy
riding a lot unfortunately there's like a lot of this you know extractivity you
have to do the splits then plus everything else like when you get to the
midi grading that's where I drive you know that's what I enjoy it and that's
like it doing it. Are you susceptible do you think to the Roger treatment
where they're gonna start poking and prying like Fraggle maybe maybe now
it's time you helped out and became maybe a potter or something like that
Are you going to hold fast and not crack like Roger did, like a weakling?
Yeah, there has been some talks about it, but I've been quite adamant about staying as a player because that's what I enjoy doing.
Not sure, I mean maybe I'll go outside and play at some point, but I'm not sure if I would enjoy it that much.
Maybe you can join us on the cast of Couch at some point and throw in some input.
I mean, if needed, you know, I'm benched, of course, I can help you guys out.
Oh, for sure. Yeah, that would be great.
We've had a little look at Nexus Princess. She's a healthy girl. She's a healthy girl.
All the people are crunching a lot of numbers now. I'm not just here but over in the US.
Are you surprised by how seemingly difficult boss 5 and 6 are for their position in the raid?
I mean, I think we expected Nexus Princess to give us a bit of the patchwork,
kind of the world boss, like a really tight DPS check, because there's not much else going on.
going on, you know, run out a little bit and then you do a single DPS, so we were expecting
it to be tuned quite tightly. Of course it's always a bit of a, you know, a coin toss,
you know, if it's right or not. I think lately they've been quite good with the tuning and
seem to be kind of on point right now for like what we are able to achieve gear-wise,
but I mean, we always, you know, figure it out and get the DPS needed.
You always find damage from somewhere every single time and you're probably going
to be a contributing to that. So we do have to let Fraggo go though because before we even
start, he said, dude, I need to get into mythic plus right now, which is what you're doing because
we're hoping to see mythic very shortly. So we're going to let Fraggo go. We're going to throw back
to the handsome, the beautiful, the, the wonderful Alex over on the couch. Thanks, Fraggo.
Thank you. It's delicious cake. Welcome back to the stream. Get out of it. Go, go.
Welcome back to the stream. Yes, no, we, you heard it from Fraggo himself. There's a whole
There's a lot of specs going into this route to a fight, a fight that seems to be surprising
them as to how difficult it is.
The cake is really good.
Everyone, actually whilst I'm here by myself, I think it'll be a lovely thing.
Them asked us to do this, I have no idea what the hell just happened over there.
Go and wish Mara's a happy birthday on Twitter.
Go do it now, because the cake is from him.
We may have been consuming some cake there.
It was delicious Mike.
I've got to say, I do not appreciate being stalked behind the door.
Jumped scared I heard some by little and large medic was behind the door and Jordan so like medic is in your face and then suddenly
We're just was enjoying some of her birthday cake. Oh, I would love it if you would eat that cake
I already was in my presence. Would you like me to I would like me have a little bite? Oh
Yeah, take that delicious. Do you like a little bit? No, you're not feeding these people keep feeding me. No
I'm not even coming to the train!
Oh here she is, gremlin attack!
No, we're coming in, coming now.
I'm not eating the cake!
No, why did I feed you?
I don't like the uneru-
Okay, sure.
This is just a delicious little turd.
Right in your mouth.
There it is.
Nutty.
Beautiful.
Mmm.
Thanks, Mike.
That's okay, that's for you.
Looks a bit hard.
That's really nice.
Yeah, I'm sure it is.
I've not had any cake.
I've been a good-
No!
Oh no.
Slowly raised in volume.
Yeah. Good news though, talking to the players.
Even if they want to max out their vaults and stuff,
they're kind of nearly done with Mythic Pulse.
They've done plenty of them.
And there's really else to do.
So we're probably going to be seeing
some broody twisty action
coming up in the next little while here.
I know Frago had to run off because he got one more to do,
but a lot of them have one shot
that Mythic Pulse trinket that they were looking for.
Oh, that's good. Yeah.
is full done. He was bragging about it. He's got his stuff on the very first run.
He's got your drop to my as well, from when you're in your raid bots and what not, getting
your sims done, knowing what you want from all the different, um, mythic blasts, just
being able to cross all of those off your list, going, don't need to go back in there
now for the rest of the week unless I want to get crazy vault stuff later.
Yeah, I believe him and Jinji are identical in Isom level.
Oh damn!
They are literally identical. So they're looking at that and obviously there's a couple
of runs going because we're likely to need some more DKs. I don't know whether
triple DK because we know lurking in the shadows as he tends to do. Narco DK is ready to rock and
roll. Perfecto may be swapping onto DK as well. So he could be seeing some triple DK.
Everyone's on DK. Turns out the DK it is.
Yes. But for this particular boss, doing very, very strong. We'll see exactly how it all plays
out later. Um, yeah. No, it's nice to see because I know there was a point in the week
where many was like, I'm not sure if I'm playing anything this time around. So it looks like
Like, uh, yeah, it's weird, right?
Like how things change when you actually start seeing all of the pieces
fall together.
I think everyone's making up as they go along with this, Mike.
We're getting, I mean, the world first rating is like, they can go
in with all the plans they want.
And the boss goes, yeah, well, what about this?
What about if you need a consistent 4 million cleave over the space of eight
minutes?
Well, who's doing that?
It's not the moonkins.
Well, I don't know.
Actually, it depends on what, um, tanks they want to break.
because if they maybe want to be bringing a blood decay as well on top of this. I don't know if they got a
geared windwalker, we might be seeing a little bit of cannex, seeing how that plays out as well,
there might be some experimentation going on when we actually get a comp together.
I do believe right now that we have, we've jumped to cannex's pub, if you don't mind right quick.
Looks like they killed the, yeah they, they, so they killed the silkencourt.
I'm not sure if they're going to be looking to do one more run of ancerec,
perhaps to get a character that depends what perfecto needs this whole run is just for perfecto
so if they got what he needed it was from silken court then they're good and they don't need to go
and do that because it's not like he hasn't got all his tear and stuff already for sure that is
fully done and dusted wolf disco obviously warrior oh yeah what we're going to see there are we
just going to see buzz saws and shreds we might also see him on his wallock which he did play on
the first few bosses anyway wallocks are so good for that fight not everyone needs to be an
ad killing powerhouse some people was worried best they can just kind of slam them the more they can
offload onto just a few players doing ads I mean we saw what war life was doing yesterday on
ration on it it's just ridiculous they just left it to him he did 80 percent of the damage
to all those ads of course the parasites in this one though a lot healthier and a lot more dangerous
so they will want some coverage there but you're absolutely right this is going to be a battle
I would really like to see on the I mean just for curiosity sake he is a very different
So what liquid's been doing it's like we think we're gonna go this way like playing into the strengths of what echo believes they've got but
We'll see they had a little luck this morning with the for evoker setup brago saying he's probably going to be going
Org
That's likely where he's going to be going on this whole press or dev
It's gonna be all over the place though. Yeah, Scribes been working on it. I saw Scripe at lunch to sat back like
I think Scribe as always he wants choices that's been the case of Scribe since I've known him as he wants choices
If he suddenly says let's try three DKS. They want them in there. Will we use a vengeance tank as a third tank?
Will they go through tank?
Lots of choices on this fight
There is a will even start in the same way like there's pros and cons to where you're going to start depending on which strategy you're going with
There's tons of different things to do on this fight
I'm surprised at how varied it is the more I look into it the deeper it goes
It's like a rabbit hole of complexity where when you first look at the boss, it's like just break the eggs and kill the ads
Don't be bad. Let's pull the boss
Just have we decided maybe to not be bad at the game question mark
What do you want for what to play the game for you
But um, yeah, no, they they've got like not only which
quadrant or not quadrant the third of the room that they're going to be working in
which area they're going to be starting in but also when they're doing that
exactly what ad route they're going to be doing within it there's lots of different
areas running on the strength of the classes maybe got some you want to
basically align spawning the worst of the ads of that sector at the same time
that you have the majority of your cooldown so you can even save
cooldowns for that or you could just keep sending on send and hopefully have
what the bad overlaps line up with the overlaps of your seedlings.
It's a spreadsheet fight for these guys right now.
That's why I thought it would be a fight that's kind of solved before we got there.
Turns out wrong.
They're basically way, way harder than they expected.
Way, way harder.
Like as Fagal pointed out there is like they suspected Nexus Princess was going to be
the sludge fist, smolder on wall, DPS, check, target dummy because there's not
much happening mechanically.
That's a problem for the guys.
Yeah.
just has all the health that ever existed in the universe. And that's that's going to be
the challenge to push DPS. I'm really expecting a Rhygallon 2.0 there. That's what I'm thinking
we're going to see. I think we might what you're going to be right in the middle of
the room, barely any space available for us. It's about to fill with the purple. We know
she's got a hard and rage and it'll be like, can you squeeze? Yes, of course. That
last couple of percent out to take her over the finish line because there's various
thoughts flying around she's got too much health they're going to change it nobody's pulled it yet
not properly Lizard's been pretty good actually in the the recent race of the first of getting it
kind of possible and the tuning has generally been decent um uh in the last uh tier that was
excuse me we have all these adjustments always yep so like i think what was it on for rack we had
Like maybe only a few changes
Yeah, like four or five percent boss health nerf as some of the ads were nerfed as well
But it wasn't like it was on Raz again was like 50% lol
You know like what we didn't realize you weren't a 40 man team are bad
So it was it wasn't as egregious as that
So yeah fingers crossed the rest of like I really just want them to get to the point where it's like what kind of
as big as we're getting there's nothing else to do but mythic raid but it does
take a little while for us to get to that point normally it takes us several
several days but with the fact that the raiders are you know have had that
heroic week certainly cut down on the amount of splits they think are
necessary and also get into the raid but we should be seeing it very soon I
can imagine once the players are all back from their lunch break during
lunch some of the players still playing on through doing their finishing
their herogram so people like effecto and mini right now downstairs getting some food in and i
mentioned once they're back yeah yeah i mean going down is a strong term it would definitely die
the players will a hundred percent be going down but why really i think but hopefully what we're
going to see this afternoon is actually a lot of switching up they need to learn this this has
been the point that's been stressed all the way through here is they absolutely need to learn
the fight so that gear is not going to squash this beast so there is um something that i did
want to bring up of course the chat has been demolishing the donation goals that we've been
having up to this point okay as you can see already race past the five um thousand oh my god
yeah we already had operation medic which i did see enhanced with more beans well apparently i was
the one having surgery performed on me and we all know how to make Mike feel better put beans in his
chest cavity um but of course with that there was a extra goal not listed at four thousand dollars
this goal Jesse brought forward uh well I well we all it wasn't necessarily Jesse who said it was
doing about four thousand dollars Jesse said that he would make I would allow um Jordan to
do some make-up. Doing a makeover for Jesse in the style of Zalatath I think it is. So if we switch
over to the Maxwell analysis desk we have got Jordan and Jesse right here ready to do some
wonderful wonderful makeovers. Hello. Hello. I can see over this desk. You can. We had a few ideas
of well chat suggested clown G
okay very original I like that I vote
you're next stop I suggested zalogy
we also had medic suggest
kiss G so we have like a big star on his face
you suggested emojis yeah I think got the
I'm going to do everything I mean I suck at make-up
I'm looking Jesse's eyes at the pure desperation of please help me!
I know why I've been nominated to do this!
I mean I've been at the mercy of your makeup skills before.
Oh yes, we contoured your chin.
You gave me a 5D chin along with the mischievous Daisy
and then used me for like makeup tips. You're like well how did you do that?
Let's try it out here and I became a pallet.
Ah you're a canvas! Yeah it took about 45 minutes.
Well, um, Jesse, like, how are you feeling about all of this, or you might need to swap
the headset over just to maybe get some final thoughts before you're made beautiful.
Um, what, what, what are we thinking?
Are you excited?
I'm a little nervous.
I've never worn makeup before.
It's really relaxing.
Like, it's nice.
Yeah.
It's annoyingly comforting.
I wore stockings usually.
I'm a little scared of the, uh, eyelids stuff.
Oh, that can be a little bit spooky.
First I'm having some eyeliner put in but have faith in Jordan Jordan's an expert. Yeah, I trust that's gonna be good
Well, best of luck. We're gonna be I like the idea of occasionally just jumping back to you
Yeah, we're just gonna be here whenever you're bored over there
You can flash over and take a look at my face
We're halfway through Brute Twister pools and we just turn and yesy how things going?
My sister's yeah, she's got a nice palette. Oh, wow
I like beautiful
Okay, she's dropped it it's shattered it shambles well
I think he's disappeared below the desk yet again. I think it makes sense for probably John to have the headset so that
access to your face
Minus beer I told you we come
Wow, that's a real book you could fall into it but chinian
I can start to see the individual pixels now.
Where are we going?
Surely we're supposed to be, I mean, I get what, okay.
I'm killing the boss and it's at 4%.
Look at that, the boom twist is spawning the last parasites.
Jordan, would you like to run us through these first tentative steps while I'm waiting for the raid to get themselves back together?
Yeah, absolutely. So I concocted this in my basement. It consists of
The absolute fear is
Foundation we are setting the base
Is it like painting this is like a primer then
Yes
I'm gonna put the drywall up and stuff the wall.
This is like doing the normal mode splits
before going into heroic.
So that's what we're saying.
This is the important foundation.
This is the splits.
This is Delves.
Oh, yeah.
Not coming up watching it.
This might be a bit orange on Jesse,
just because I am from Essex.
So just a bit of a disclaimer.
Okay, we're halfway through from here.
It looks fine because he's got like this sort of profile
thing going on.
Can we just quickly stop and have Jesse look down the camera?
Beautiful, oh my lord.
Oh
This is a horror movie now. Yeah, no the camera movement. Oh, oh there we go
You're gonna look fantastic
And we do expect of course G2S is complete a full max roll analysis of this full process
If you would so we get the logs on the makeup and what kind of pass are we looking at?
That's what I want to know is where is Jordan standing in the rankings of the makeup artist event like?
I'm not always mocking your
height. It's a tall school.
Of course, all of this made possible
though by your very generous
donations for love. Really do
appreciate all of those. All of
the support that's why we got so
many fun things coming up and
all going towards an amazing
cause where we're helping
children out in hospital
allowing kids to be kids got
whose cast is it anyway?
I'll see rumble coming up
which is going to be nightmarish, scuffed cosplay,
Vader portraits.
I've been practising, going to art school.
We've got International Castle Appreciation Day
where we might be exchanging a few gifts here and there.
Oh my God.
The Nerubar, which is going to be Medics concoction-based
beans.
It's just going to be beans.
He's just going to fill it with beans.
It's going to be beans and mocktails
and it's going to be fantastic.
And then Crab and Spider tattoos.
If we get that far,
As I say, all going towards an amazing cause, do get your donations in and we will read them as and when we can, one of which indeed has arrived as of five minutes ago, from Doug, Doug Ratman, who says the cake is a lie, actually nothing to do rats instead a portal reference.
Oh! The man in the walls is a Ratman. So there we go, thank you very much for the five dollar donation, the cake is not a lie, because indeed I do have it here. And Mike, feel free to talk about what's going on in this Mythic Plus.
Yeah, enjoy your cake, Al. I don't mind that at all. You see that here is coming towards the end of his coming up flick through everybody's are they still all in mythic plus?
I would really appreciate it. I can see Jinji over here is definitely I getting necrotic wake on the go.
This is actually one of my favorite dungeons. I love the Stoneball. I think he's got such a cool vibe. It's got this like Blackrock foundry vibe to it.
You know, you're right.
Yeah. It's got I mean, I feel that the two bosses like hands and friends, you know, that kind of feel with the duo.
I know it's not the same mechanically, but I love the just lugging the block across and doing it is very black rough boundary now
That you mentioned it
I love that right here besides the
Train and you didn't like Thoga. I hate that. Oh, oh because I put out this before you have
It's one of your favorites many many many fights between me and Mike as to how you can ever
Enjoy blast furnace and a hate operator
Was terrible no it was super trash
Living in blissful ignorance blissful ignorance indeed
Because you like hell yeah
I think it's probably helped by the we did well rank wise on that fight
And I got to play Hunter on that fight, which was Sidewinder's.
It was built for Sidewinder's, I think.
Oh, right down the line? Yeah, that's nice.
So good. It felt really, really powerful to play.
Did you have Ricochet?
Did Ricochet work down the line? Yes.
Ricochet works with Mark's targets, right?
Basically those adds down the middle, if you had a few hunters,
all of them would just disengage into where the breath just was
to get all the adds in a line.
Sidewinder's all the way down there and do a ton of damage.
Very, very fun.
Ignite all over them, bad boys.
Oh if we can have a quick check in mid pool
Wow, you're so one note now, but I think this is the foundation. Yeah, you're like a canvas now a cleansed canvas
You'd normally move your face, but you know you can't let them out. I'm translating for
Yeah, we won't be able to hear you too much
But we can always translate what Jesse says which is very dangerous actually because we can make them say anything
that we want. Don't worry, we'll do a good job. We'll do you right, Jesse. We'll do you proud.
Yes, so here we are joining. We are looking to the end of Mythic Plus now. The guys have got,
they've been really lucky with loot. Not sure whether item level will land. They're not even
in the top five anymore. Trash guild as expected. True. Yeah, but Liquid doing very well. Surprisingly
well item level wise. 619.7, but we don't know what they've sent. We haven't, obviously we've
been here so we've not been watching what they've sent we know echo still has a lot of goods in the tank to
Send and increase their characters even more 621 on this particular character. That anything is actually in their guild
Who is it don't know some from Sylvanas some guy some guy
Team
It was this
Tyker? Yeah. Got a join? Just saying. Yeah, do you know how to kill worms? Can you do more damage than Jinji?
Can you press counterspell? Because that's going to be important. It's gonna be very important. Very important indeed.
But he is lower on the damage on the overall there than Jinji.
You know, well slacking. It's his key. Oh, maybe trolling playing Frost.
Classic Jordan maneuver. That's gonna sound like a classic Jordan maneuver. Yeah, I cannot believe Mr. Turner's side is back.
What's wrong with the dungeon because I didn't really do a whole lot of it because Shadow of
Alliance could you imagine actually play?
Yeah true, I did a lot of it.
It was always nice, it's one of those dungeons Al, where it's really good when you've got
one guy who is really into Mythic Bloss and just does it all for you.
Oh, that was amazing everything.
Ah, so good.
And they know how, like, Crusher would be a great example.
He knows how to, like, mark the fairy in a certain way so you can see the whole
path before you even start it, it's like you go left, left, left, right, and
then you're done and then you don't have to think about it at all.
forgets you gotta go check things are using add-on these be a week or there is a week or that apparently is accurate after the
Second one so you got to work out the first two and then from there
Apparently
But it honestly, I think as long as one person in your group is happy to have a little run around and work out
What is it? Heal a job. What is the actual thing that you're doing them?
I'm right saying that you'll try to work out for one the one that stands out
It doesn't it doesn't stand out either. It's it's what's the odd one out one out
That's why man. Sorry. There's two shapes and they can either be fully colored in or an outline or they have a ring
Or they don't have a ring right? Okay, so three of them have a ring and one doesn't that's your one out
Correct. Yes. That's what you're looking for. And then it doesn't during the boss fight as well
So you go, but it's much easier in the boss fight for some I think it's just because in the boss fight
You can actually see them all you see the water one
Yeah, you can't unless people stand next to the pillars in this so you can't see and it's only the people that stand next to it
Can they can see it or no it'll pop up for everybody
Oh, I mean the idea that was it wanted is that you would all spread out and stand near a pillar
Then you'd see them all and everybody could figure it out together, but of course in the big plus
When you're healing generally all I did on my hunter because we could be BS and move no problem
Yep, so I'm only just go to one two three four, and they're like, okay, and figure out where to go
It's one of those things, but this trash gets real nasty in heights is just looking over a jetty just full mannequin
It's just the way that you just stood there.
I know, you're doing it right.
It's just very funny.
You're next, Alex.
Oh, no.
Although, I don't mind.
I actually really enjoyed it.
It was supposed to be like a punishment,
but I was like practically asleep.
It's quite a relaxing process.
Oh, did you hear that you've got your own donation incentive, apparently?
At 12,500. No, it's good to medic. Oh, no
Probably just thrown pies at you. Okay. Look medic
Covering me in juice and I know that sounds weird, but it's true
It does seem to be the case actually now that you put it out
I just love to cover in some sauce. Do you want to be your you can get pie?
Pies Mike. That's your solution doesn't have to be juice
The intention was that you'll get pied this is I'm gonna come home covered and stuff
Yeah, why don't you eat the icing Mike's smear it all over your face a lot of the gold
Please we have got cake. I'm not eating cake
Sure. Yes. It's got spare cake. I ate it. We had cake yesterday
That's how spoiled we've become there's too much cake. Well, the thing is I've got my cake here, but we also
Have cake for you here
Just in case you wanted some, I don't know.
Because I'm a good friend.
I threw a spoon as well, it should be on the couch somewhere.
Oh!
Throwing a spoon?
I'd tell you what, we're together for like five hours right?
Do you want to slowly over the time eat this or just slam it in the mouth?
I will do this for you, because everyone seems to be obsessed with shoving stuff in
my mouth.
Yeah, sure.
At 6K, we are 6K during our shift, hours, one bite, whole thing.
I'll tap it.
I'll tap the whole thing.
get a whole piece in. I don't think I can, but I'll try.
I don't like the fact that you know that. I do know that. It is true.
Yeah. I have seen you. Sure. If we can reach six K within our shift, I will join you with
the rest of this as well. We'll double tap it. Yeah, you need a fresh piece though. Oh,
what a shame. Yeah, you finished that one. I feel like Bruce. I think Bruce Bob Trotter.
Yeah. Hey, you could do it. Or you Sam, give me the over under on getting this
in one bang. Hey, I think you could do it. You think I could do it? Yeah. I
I think you got it.
You've got a squ-
That is-
It's-
Corruction tells me it's soft, it will squish.
Not the words I was hoping to hear today.
Alright, let me store mine.
We'll store it back under here.
I love the cake cupboard.
I love we got a little shelf.
We've got chocolate down here as well.
What is going on with you guys?
This is the Nordvik chocolate.
Holy crap!
What is happening?
Nipple clumps.
What have you guys been doing on heroic weeks?
More chalky.
down here than in the bush. I'd just like you to know that Jesse just said that's my nipple.
That's my nipple. Anyone who's watched the stuff in the class. Money off vouchers? Oh,
hold on. What is this? I have nothing. It's solid. Jesse, your nipple clamps, your thoughts.
He loves them as well. That didn't come through. That doesn't work. You can just translate
far, Hinge. It's easier. Otherwise, you're going to smudge your ball. The headphones
I just put the bike in his face. Yeah, that doesn't work
Very directional. It's nice try though. You liked it
You know under here is um, you know, just pull it back the curtain
There's a lot of stuff down there. I'm doing behind the scenes video of the race to build first
Just down there. It's just stuff. This is my foot. I left a plate
I left a plate down there the other day though when I got told off
I thought we were allowed to eat up here anyway. How have you got cake?
It manifests it
I would like to know what the items are looking for so we can be a little excited as they get to the end of the world.
Oh, Stone Vault! There is a trinket or two from this place I remember.
I can't remember what it is this big sad once. I see the item. I'll be like that's it
It's that one. It's escape my memory at the moment of course running double evoker in here gives me the impression that they are probably
After some sort of trinket that they can use but it is fragile. He's after something
Can you appreciate how pretty that Jesse looks oh damn a swap back over full screen on Jesse? Oh
Wow the eyes are really popping. Oh, yeah a little bit of blush on the cheeks
You look beautiful!
I think I did a good job!
I think you're doing an excellent job!
Jesse, you know when your lovely lady sees this
you are perma-makeuped from the front
Get ready to do this every morning!
That hour that you're spending in the gym, no sir!
That is now an hour in front of the makeup mirror!
You now need to invest several million dollars in makeup
because from what I can tell with what my wife spends
that's the approximate cost of a basic makeup kit.
There we go!
Yes, it's some sort of investment into Apple or something
Oh
Dear indeed and I did a Zalzath cosplay answer by what I believe was a crayon
Okay, it's like six great. It's like it's a crayon. Oh, is it like a purple eyeliner?
No, something you go. It was a black crayon, but it was make-up approved crayon
Oh crayon, you know like okay. Yeah, I just saying it in a strange fashion. I'm saying it in an English accent
Crayon is that how we say in England crayon crayon
That's what it's called. I just eat them
Thank you, Jordan. And these just like to them, unfortunately.
Oh, damn.
They might be able to squeeze a bar, but no, it's looking pretty rough.
No.
This boss can be pretty spiteful. They're doing it on a 10.
10's no joke. Just for anyone who's like, not in the clue as to the difficulties this
tier. 10 is what you would do for a max box.
Yep, for your max bowl. I think at 9s, give the best baseline loot so you can spam
9s if you want to. You could be slightly wrong on that, but yeah, you want to
do 10s for your box. I think if you do all sevens, you get keystone master
this summer. It's just sevens. Yeah, I know they've all upped them. It's not like the old
sevens back in the day. Oh, there you can see all the pictures. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I
did this on an M zero the other day, and I just didn't bother to interact with it. I
just waited for something. I just, I just, you know, I'm saying that's when it's the
best to stand up. But I'm just like, you don't remember the big, big, uh, they made
a big deal out of the last boss. He was another big, uh, wormy boy because it
had predictive AI in terms of where you were going. Oh, really? And it does. It
It does it does check where you're running. Oh, we're half we're like halfway to this cake goal. Oh, yeah
6,000 get those 6,000 in and we'll have cake. Oh, let's talk about the worm
But that's about the cake the AI cake
Cake AI cake farts cake AI
Let's talk about charity begins
The nation coming in from garbage is
About happy race well first everyone. Did you know Mike's Poseidon curse follows and spreads everywhere?
He goes to the day he arrived my kitchen had a burst pipe and my son. I got flooded
No big damage. So all good. I'm not laughing
Request can you just flood that nerubians?
Yeah, you can actually because there was something about spider a spout. I have heard
Yeah, there was some sort of clue that it might be leads a victory, but I'm sorry about your stuff actually
I did see the pictures on Twitter. Oh look, dude. I've been there much love many hearts in the chat for girl
Thank you so much for the valuable donation. We also got a hundred dollars. Thank you so much from turtle and fish
He says this is the rat
Yes, Mike take that cake
swallow that cake hold
Nodders
Very nice
The turtle fish waits for no man, we also got 150 dollars in it from basheel
Who says get preach some cake clown?
There we go. Thank you. Don't watch we have cake. Yes, they have freshly cooked fridge cake with a big cream more cake
I'm gonna have to go bring again
You've got a 10 dollars is that slice of cake legit production. Can you check?
I'd guess that it's probably somewhere around like 350
Holy crap
Yeah
That might be about 8
No
Yeah
That's so bad
That's like
350 is fine
That is no way 350 either
That is way more
I don't know
Yeah
It's
Yeah, it's no way I know
Okay, so it's a fancy bakery cake
And fancy bakeries means more butter
That's true
That is legit all that fancy means
Is there's more butter in it than it's necessary
I think you'll find it's fine
Here we go
Double checked and it is fine. I've done so the technical term is don't worry about
We also got a 10 donation in from a metal MMO
He says I'll do it 10 more if you managed to spice up the m-plus happening in the background with your best
Well centric puns and dad jokes looking at you preaching Jesse. I don't go echo
Thank you ever so much for your donation there. We've also got a
Oh, there we go a $1 donation in from our fields. Who says imagine everyone donating $1 that'd be sweet, dude
That would be sweet. Yeah, that would be sweet. Obviously means inside. This is a great cause
This is for the really really sick children. You can't like get out of hospital provides entertains them and helps every education coming out of
Hospital for long stays. It does so much it helps them get on with their lives again
It's a really good cause. It's a super good cause if it means me injecting myself with calories
just a little cake and then a rune then have you been Jim today I have I have
gone again if that cake's going in I think we come off at the same time we'll
both go Jim that'd be nice oh see you can spend some time together will you spot
me no oh I will try that's like Nogura Nogura on spy anyone she's busy she
just lurks in every corner of the gym just like a spider just in the corner
Yeah, just watch your way.
I just said, your farm is crap.
That is nice.
That's it.
That is the end of the day.
That is, in some ways, some feedback.
Many ways, that's helpful.
Here we go again on this boss.
Again, my favorite boss in this dungeon.
I love how quickly its mechanics happen.
As soon as he leaps out, it's already going down.
Certainly with the drag across the room as well.
It's absolutely brutal.
Clicks getting clipped there.
Yeah.
Big sad.
It's also nice that the boss HP is linked.
You do have to manage your DPS here because if you kill...
You're totally right, yeah.
That's a lovely touch.
Usually they make dungeons and stuff that are a little bit easier by linking their HP or
something or other slides.
They've even done it in the raid, haven't they?
Yeah.
No, you're entirely right.
Here he comes.
Choo choo!
Choo choo!
Choo choo!
Choo choo!
I must admit, first time that mechanic happened to me.
I died.
I ate that straight to the face.
Yes, this boss from one of them dies.
The other one does a crazy amount.
Oh, it's mad.
Really, really crazy.
So you need to be super super careful making sure they die at the same time. Otherwise you will fall
for sure even in the
Very very rough. Whoa. I'm not sure about that play nice
No, don't be mad that was a crazy move. Oh
I don't forget replay that
That was insanity and then of course we can break
Oh
No, oh
What happened I don't know if I don't like it. Oh wow. There's a nine there now. There is a nine in the cake
You guys are gonna make me so fat and I feel like Emma's a ringleader
Let's work really have a little bit cake Mike. It's not a little bit. It's a giant wedge of cake
We have been using it to hold the doors open
We've got a five dollar donation in from the rat who says hello break. It's me
Oh
It's from before click size go through this bit
I think he's stuck always on the edge because I just don't think that he's in like he's gonna get hit by the big wave there
Yeah, on the corners of this little area little bubble boy
And then I want to see what nice means that she said that he did crazy. This is a full Tom play
What do you do?
You'll see in a sec.
It was very heroic for me.
Oh, can you see this? The jumper cables, good res.
Yep.
There we go.
Cush, actually, being a team player, you don't often see that.
He comes back in.
Watch nice memes.
Okay.
This is Cush though.
And I think we got Cush, that's it.
Okay.
Yep, we've only got Cush.
get slapped by what was it? He's gonna do a hero play. Oh dude he's jumped straight into that box!
What the hell? Damn! He valiantly leapt into the box. That is a strong choice. A strong choice indeed.
One of the choices you could have made there. That is the most choice of all time.
Definitely a decision. So from the rat a five dollar donation who says
Hello, Preach. It's me the rat 777777.
More sevens.
See you in the sauna my darling XOXO.
Thank you very much.
The rat.
We've also got a $1.11 donation from Packle.
Thank you very, very much.
$1 from Milo as well.
So here's my $1.
Appreciate it Milo.
We've also got a and big claps in the chat for this.
A $500 donations from ErsyBee.
Erzy B
Apologies if I screwed that name up
He says all of the castors should get Xalataph makeup on a body parts a production can then put it together as a Frankenstein's cast
I like that idea. Oh, so I can't believe Preach thought it would take Elsa get to 6k after that promise should do we've been live for eight days
Oh nine days yum yum yum. Thank you so much. Erzy B
I like that idea. I'd like you know, we could we could all get makeup makes up
All right, mate. I have to ask who's being the feet. I think it should be you
You do not want to see my nephew, you don't.
There's a mixture of hobbitness just going on.
It should be Jay, Jay should be the Zallito's.
Oh, hold on.
I got my nails painted in the theme of Zallita,
so I can be Zalli hats.
I saw that.
I didn't see them.
No, they're very nice.
Are they purple, are they?
Yeah, they're purpley, and then they've
got a shimmer in it as well.
I don't know what happens.
OK, we do.
We've got an update on the.
It sparkly.
Let's have a little look over.
Whoa!
That's really cool.
I like all of the markings there as well.
You're starting to.
You can see the red on the other side as well.
So I've gone for like, ooh-ooh.
Oh my god.
God.
How is that supposed to be anime-sized?
Yeah, but it's a little bit trashed.
Yeah, we could turn it up.
We'll turn it up.
But then this side, I was quite proud of.
I think it looks wonderful.
Yeah.
A lot of chat is loving it as well.
Jordan, Jordan.
Yeah.
Me.
No.
Okay, it's that shimmer on the eye. Yes, it is and glitter. God, I'm Mike. Nick is learning the terminology
Absolutely fantastic. Thanks for the update. We will continue to let you know how Jesse gets on
With the onslaught that Jordan's putting it through we got a $10 donation in from chubby goldfish
Who says let's help some poor kids have a better life also go echo
So this is my way of making Preach go on a run for me.
I was being really nice then it were I was I was feeling bad for you. I would run for you
No, you're gonna be running regardless as we only got twenty five dollars away from having Mike absolutely one
$10,000 in ten minutes just for the fact that it makes me fat. Thank you. Yeah, I'm gonna be a man
We got a $1 donation in from Teto says $1 Chatterman's let's go. Yeah, I completely agree on that one
And it's one dollar from them. Yep
It's a dollar that helps a child like per child like it's awesome
Good five dollars coming in from station earth who says favorite stream of the year massive thumbs up to all of the raiders
Castors and stuff PS. I love feet. Don't know why I read that last bit
That's what the donation said dude!
That's what the donation said!
I know!
It just slipped out!
Just a bit!
Oh!
Got a $2 donation in from uh, Keelio, who says, imagine if we all donated $2!
Come on people, spare one coffee today and donate to help children instead go echo very,
very generous of you Keely as well as a five dollar donation coming from Shrox
who says Blalatath is my favorite emote a chat filled with Blalatath there's
sure I would love to see a Blalatath doll.
We're gonna need another piece of cake Sam.
Ooh we've done it! You can see the Blalataths coming in right now in the
chat. Oh we're gonna see it on the stream. I've got you guys up on the
on the iPad right now. So Mike they did it dude. They did do it.
$6,000 raised
Damn just for my heart disease and may I introduce you the production's like
The creme de la creme the cake if that enter don't they don't get it in I believe what we got do it together
Oh yours is a small one. It's still quite it's quite thick
We can't see any more
No
Now production's backing out so we can't say oh you're watching okay yeah okay hold on are we gonna pull this is gonna be gross and I
Apologize one at a time okay you go first cuz yours is free go on LFR cake you
Don't even have some bizarre Oreo cookie sticking out unfortunately wait fake Oreo
Oh scan that's a fail you failed wipe it all right you failed that's not good
oh my you wouldn't from I just pop it in there all the way come on now here we go
nearly done oh yes quit that night all the ice and mate pop it in plot that in
your girl mate delish oh yeah I love that absolutely delicious cake chew it go
mate have a little chew oh delicious happy birthday Marys production
can I have a table towel it might be worth taking a minute or two just to
quickly wipe off we'll go to come real brief we're just gonna watch our hands
in this situation we can't cut and go welcome back everybody our mouths are
cl... oh well that's uh oh here we go slow motion that's this I assume this
I can't watch this.
I can.
Do you want to cast it, Mike?
At this point, you can see the despair rising.
He's smiling nervously as he's fully understanding that what he's about to do is going to be clipped,
maybe be an emo, and maybe even in the future, you have to watch it back in slow motion.
You can see it started well by assessing the width.
I had a little wiggle.
I mean, I don't have a wide mouth, but then it became to the girthy side.
Alex, you take it from here.
Yeah, no.
just shoving all that I like the three-finger technique of just really oh my god the snake
locked door technique oh my goodness the absolute horror on display on the stream and then they
look up like did I do it did I do well now I do realize my technique was poor now is what
I should have done is palm to the base oh my god and then it should have been one of
But unfortunately we'll never find out how that could have gone in there
But we as you guys are waiting it with baited breath any mythic plus could be the last mythic plus and should be we know
Several of the players are in fact essentially kept on what they can get out of mythic plus
In fact, they just fully off. There's nothing else for them to get
There's a couple of people who are still hoping and praying to get to the thing
That they're hoping for from them from their runs. They're also filling out for their vaults
I mean, if this is what boss number five looks like reset is very much a possibility. Although it's very early in the race to make that call
But they'll be done regardless. They need to do these m pluses anyway gear is certainly going to help them when they get to boot
Twister and even if they're geared won't help them overcome the mechanics of Brute Twister
It will absolutely help on the nightmare that is awaiting them afterwards. Oh, yes, princess
So this is not wasted time for echo at all to be getting this done and get everything
they possibly can out of these dungeons.
Yeah, Cavesa looks super nasty.
Looks like it's going to be a crazy, crazy fight for them to have to counter.
So really looking forward to that.
We've been talked about the one fight that really we thought would be the worst
one for them, the Silken Court.
I still think it will be.
I think it will be Anzurek.
Yeah, if Anzurek is Farak again, good job, Blizzard.
Yes, well, we're in for a definitely info race.
Can you think of three or four days, Al?
We'll be sat here and they'll be like on Silken Court, right?
Oh, yeah.
I'm like, dude, this is brutal.
It can't get like heavier than this and then buzzers like hold my beer
That's when no idea you head into answer. I can you realize that you're actually fighting answer
And the Queen's court at the same time the silk court the same time even so there we go
That would be cool. That is the minute the face the answer. I think phase definitely coming
100% I think it could do she could send even if it's just like a palette swap style thing where I would like to see
Yeah, I would like to see the fully ascended version of the boss
It would be cool. Very interesting. We do know there's things that happen on Zalata.
That won't be to the last Titan. That we'll be saying those words.
I think she'll die next patch in a cutscene in a side quest.
Doubts. Yes. There we go.
She's got it now.
Our girl, the toe rings are sticking around for quite some time.
Hopefully, do you think, like, I'm kind of done with the feet of her, coming out
of the feet of. She's done it twice now.
It actually reminds me, without being on a fee trend again, did you ever see
the movie Constantine? No. No. Maybe. Okay. Then it's that one.
It's Keanu Reeves. I did watch that. I was very, very, very tired the next day after
a night out. I watched it and I can't remember what happened. Well, anyway, some of you have
seen it. We'll get this reference because it's almost shot per shot. What happened
in the recent cut scene was out there is when the devil arrives. All right. It's
the same shot of the feet coming down. I was like, is that what you've pulled
it from to say that Mike you want to join in crackpot theories because you've been paying
close attention to the story. I know it's I'm a expert. Can you date your zones? Yes.
So yeah, I can do that. Oh good. That's reassuring. You've got the Isle of Dawn and then you've
got the Ring in Deep. Yes. Got Hallowfall. Yes. And you've got the Spider Place. Yeah
you do despite a place is like zaladudabalaboo oh I don't know what I was
worried about what way place the name of the I wish it's Ashkahat Ashkahat there
we go Ashkahat but either way crackpot theory is that Zaladudabalaboo will
consume the world in void at the end and that's kind of a mission it's a
little rude though yeah I mean there's no way we win at the end of this
expansion I don't think that's happening one thing that I can say
that we're definitely winning though is that we're winning on beauty in the
battle against unbeatified.
Are you complete?
No, we're not complete.
Can we do a frontal shot, though?
Can you look straight at Cam?
No.
We're waiting.
I'm concerned whether he's doing this because he's got no headset, or whether he's wearing
something on his lips now.
We should prevent them moving.
He's using hand signals to us now to portray what's happening.
We'll come back to you.
We'll come back to you.
We will indeed.
So you think the whole thing's going to be consumed in voiding?
At least by midnight, the political of the darkness makes sense, the next expansion.
Yeah, there's a cool thing happening in the story right now is we kind of had a mini-victory,
we killed Queen Ansarik, and we're freeing the Darubians, and now we've got the power
vacuum happening in Ashkahet, so as to which of the sides are going to take power over
the now...
Isn't our mum still about, but like in an abomination form?
Yeah, not good.
her roommates definitely roommates the weaver is currently taking care of her in the weavers
lair yeah so if you've not seen that and you've done the story and you have been into the story
make sure you go down and check the inn in the weavers lair you will find queen the original
queen i forget her name right now i think it's like as a daughter yeah uh you will find the
original queen yes something maybe yes but uh yeah we're all we're all celebrating a little
picture right now is like gay we be at the spiders but pretty clear that Xalatath who has been following
us around as the champion for a long time and seen us bring down all gods is not remotely
surprised and is actually kind of lawless. I don't know what Xalatath is. What is Xalatath?
You might be able to find out. Oh, maybe so. Maybe so. When are we calling Novels to get
the full start? We could do that. Well now we've got Xalatath. Word. Have we even got a
a headset for you. We should hold. There should be a where is what's happening? Headset wise
there. I bet medics broke it. There's a wire. There is a wire. I'll be under the blind
behind you. Hold on. I'm talking to you like a fish. Oh, here you are. Beautiful. And
we are joined by the one the only zalata. I didn't really shed your feet out. Oh,
And you didn't make them up Jay!
I didn't paint his toes!
You didn't paint the toes!
What are we saying Evan?
What's going on?
How's it going?
Beautiful!
I feel lovely like a princess.
So what have we got going on here Jay?
Describe your artwork to us.
So I decided to make Uwujie into Uwu as a tath.
Uwu a tath?
It's very blalatath. Yes, we've got half pink, half purple, a bombadation, half pink.
Obviously not you, it's me.
Half pink, half purple, all beautiful, I'm sure we can agree.
Oh wow. How do you feel, Jesse?
I feel like it was worth it for the children.
And we're all feeling like that, Miss Ketchins.
I also think it's very relaxing to have someone like take care of your face.
It's annoying.
I've also wore the stockings.
Women's stockings?
Yeah.
No.
Yes you have.
No.
GCB Lovely?
Yes you have.
I have.
Oh no.
I'm surprisingly comfortable and I'm a little breezy in the midsection though.
Yeah but that's nice.
Yeah, so the relaxation aspect of it, but that's not what putting makeup on in your own is like, is it kind of a very cool work when you're doing yourself?
It was actually quite nice to paint your face. Yeah, it was nice. Usually when I do mine, if something goes well it's an accident and I've got to try and recreate it on the other side, which is why you've got two different colours.
Is this you tried to match? Yeah.
Howdy, what do you think?
Essex.
Would you describe this as Reem?
Oh, yes.
I don't know what that means.
It's good.
Don't want to know.
Yeah, yeah, that's good.
Well, it's all for the good of the children.
It is.
Are you glad you got it down?
I am.
It was fun and I'm looking forward to the next goals being reached and some more
shenanigans being found for the audience to enjoy and I'll leave this on all day.
I have a shift later.
And then I think the, what is it saying?
I see Blalatath, I Blalatath, right?
So trap your Blalataths in there, sideways.
There it is.
Can we guys zoom in on the Blalatath, the Jalatath?
Jalatath.
Jessatath.
Jessatath.
Chris, do your work.
Begin the process.
I think he's already very hard at work with the cake.
The cake is gonna be taking his time.
It is.
And clip.
That's what he says.
All right, I leave the two of you back to your shenanigans.
I will look forward to having you on the next round.
You better get ready, because I think we're going to be missing soon, and I know you'll be back.
I am ready.
Yes, I've been ready.
He's just been made ready.
He's made it more ready than before.
So thank you very much for everyone donating.
Thank you very much.
You're a good sport, G.
Yes, Jesse, as well as Jordan for your amazing artwork,
making them look very, very beautiful.
So thank you so, so much.
Be a big shout out to Chat for donating to make that all possible.
Your donations have been flooding in over the last hour.
Sure you're donating to really help really sick kids. Yes, it's not just to make gelato
People always also people take it seriously like might need really didn't want to eat that cake like no
No, I didn't but at the same time a thousand kids just got help who are sick in hospital. We're okay. We're good
You're entirely right good. I had to eat a piece of cake will survive
Some could say that that was indeed a piece of cake
Oh
Well we got send all donation coming in earlier from the pipe. He says hi Mike. It's me the pipe
Have you checked in on your office recently?
Enjoy the cake
Of you see a cool back to
Switzerland yeah
Yeah, that was a that was a rough time
It's all fixed now though, right? Yeah. Yeah, we're back in there
Yes, we did have the destruction of everything I did over the last 12 years.
Well, that's all laugh.
La Mal.
Ten dollar donation in for ordinary La Mal.
Ordinary Ollie.
He says production should replace that cake with microwave steak and eggs.
Mike would be all over it.
The fiend.
What?
Microwave steak?
Eggs? Fair enough.
Look.
I'm not going down the shrug.
But let me describe the most obscure like a version
No, there was just I wanted a steak sandwich the steak from last night was in the fridge
So I put it in the microwave 30 seconds to get a bit of warmth. That was it. That's not good
What do you mean? It's just warm the
Refrigerate cold steak isn't as nice as slightly warm steak. You don't want to if you're gonna
Oh my god, it's thoroughly heat. Oh my god, and you can't leave it out for more than four hours
You've told me that 16 times since we've been in it.
It's true.
Weird hygiene is important.
I was fine.
I'm still here.
I don't know.
It was just slightly warmer than cold in the fridge.
Could be dead.
He should have died.
I have been seen dead people.
This place is haunted, you know.
Got a 20-dollar donation in from Jalford who says, Zalli cake.
Oh, a void cake would be most delicious, I'm sure you'll agree, Mike.
Five dollar donation in from as is surely preach should be the Zali toes for that
Amalgamation picture that was put forward earlier. I assume that's what you do not want to see my toes
There's an issue with my big toe you said
Toe was in line or slightly smaller than the toe to the
Smaller than the next toe. Yeah, my big toe is not the big and I was just like that's really weird and then but no
I went back to the hotel room, not like immediately, I didn't brush my face, I just sprinted away from the table and I needed to find out.
My toes are the same.
Have you never noticed?
No, I guess not.
Mine's not in line, it's definitely shorter.
I don't think it's noticeably shorter.
But my brother, I got complex about it because my brother and my dad used to call me wall kicker once they found out.
He's been kicking walls to shot on his big toe.
Actually, he just used to call me wall kicker for years.
I cried every night.
Really?
No.
Oh, well, I've got quite good a dexterity with the feet.
I can pick up my pencils and throw them.
I've seen you in that show in Thailand.
Yeah, that was dope.
Don't you tend to look into brackets.
It's just a question for Mike.
Have you ever been caught with test toes?
No.
Must be good at it then.
Never caught.
That's what he said.
Thank you, Brackers, for the $10 donation.
Got a $1 donation from Hum2War,
who says, beating Peen's cake for preach.
I know.
Just adding everything together now.
No, no, no.
We've got a $10 donation in from NinjaJack,
who says, I'm here again.
Echo for the world.
First again, hashtag RatKlan, hashtag for the kids.
Let's start this expansion with an Echo victory
and take it all the way to the end.
Oh.
Very much so.
still so more to go through. $2 from Milo says here's my $2. Thank you so so much. A $25 donation
in from Tyche. He says I think Mike deserves a wedge of cake to shove up his mouth. I feel
sorry for Alex though for being collateral damage. I actually enjoyed my cake. You have a small piece
leave a clown and you didn't even do it. You full ditched me there. I, well, it's the
structural integrity of the cake started to dissipate. Oh yeah, mine was rock solid.
it was like eating a brick. That's what I had. $10 from anonymous says great cause, great stream.
Thank you guys. Thank you so, so much. We're getting tons of donations in. Please do get them
flowing and we'll be getting to them over the course of the Mythic Brog. So now you've got me
in alpha quite some time. We've been with you for a while because they're definitely in Mythic
anytime in about seven minutes and five seconds. They will be heading into Brew Twister and they're
They're gonna have all these new shiny trinkets
and all this gear and a really cooked strat.
I tell you what, I genuinely am memeing that,
but this is where Roger shines in fights like this.
This is where Roger cooking.
Is Roger at his desk production?
Is he actually cooking stuff up?
Yes, that is a wise Roger, look at that.
That is a man who is mid-cook.
Yeah, this is where you love a Roger Brown
weighing everything up, making decisions, making choices.
He does actually look like some sort of like a king
with people coming to him and advising him.
He looks like Dr. Claw.
Don't expect to catch up with his twiddley like,
yeah.
May have to will bring four arcane babies.
Oh yeah, that is the deep soft stripe.
Yeah, is he going through stuff with, is that?
Mini?
That was, isn't that mini?
Yeah, it was mini cool.
Why does Potter look like he's ready to murder somebody?
Cause he's done the healing cooldowns days ago
is waiting for him to get in. I think this is, I tell you what I do you want to see. The
guys are saying they got more into like app development and stuff like that now. There
are so many bits of software there. Yeah, the stuff that Echo is using, they're not going
to be able to laugh to the race. It's incredible, but I think Liquid's built something similar.
So I heard them talking about it on the stream. I could be wrong here again because
we're not over there, but something where they can build stuff on an app or whatever
and it transfers into a Wecore or Automatic. It's making life easier. Oh, so it's like
a week or a creation. I don't know. I just heard them like chatting about it while I was
in the gym this morning. I was watching the Brutes for Stapoles because the guys haven't
started yet. Cool. I'm wondering after the race whether they'll both like show these
things that they've been working on. It's like, ooh, shiny things. It's kind of that
next level again of where the race to world first is going. I find really intriguing
because I've been watching it since day one where it was like, ooh, we might do
an alt character. What wackiness is this? And then in like five years time, we don't even have
players playing anymore, just a series of robots. Yeah, I mean, I like partially this I've got
this two side of it, man. I'm one I'm really impressed with like the stuff they come up with
is just wacky at this point, like really crazy. But at the same time, it kind of feels like
it's even more inaccessible by like other guilds to get into that world first race.
True. It's a lot of resources.
Yeah, it's like they keep moving further and further ahead.
It's like a rich get richer type of scenario.
Whereas, you know, a few years ago, if you had some dedicated players and you were willing to put in a little bit of day raiding,
then you had a chance.
True.
But I haven't even seen the last boss of Grim Battall.
It's since Cataclysm. That was a blast from the past.
You know what you did?
Right, there's a lot of technicals there. I remember the eggs.
Did you have to do something with the eggs?
Did you brave them or something?
Did you film the area with Void?
Yeah.
You had to stand in that was about as complicated. It was a long time ago space that wasn't Boyd Al that you have to
I like the sound of that
And you still had wipes and all sorts of stuff. What's he at 619? 619
Okay, 636 weapon. Damn. That's a big weapon. I should have crafted. Yeah, you can't get up from
Hope getting a ring very nice hopeful making his way through
I'm going to go to um, Cedr Baralis. Yeah, but hopeful full trade by now. He has everything
he needs. I imagine it's, um, they're here for a trinket. Uh, the, you can see how many
adge users are in here. We've got three adge users with clicks on his enhance with a nice
means of cush probably going for that spyglass trinket. You're a spyglass. I hear a spy
glass one more time, dude. They're all talking about it all the time. I know it's brilliant,
but they are hunting the spyglasses down to find them, but they've got a full,
Actually, a full echo team.
They got lucky on a key.
Oh, yeah, usually this is where they echo truly rely
on you, the audience.
Oh, yeah, if you've got like a P plus eight somewhere
or something, I saw them advertising for that.
Any plus nine key.
Can't explain it to us.
Arakara's last night is like, please,
if you have an Arakara key.
The trade is that we'll rid it for you.
But of course, you do expect when you play with echo
to get a free clear of your M plus,
your free gear and your box for your higher key.
And then we saw some issues, but that didn't happen.
Yeah, I do have a log got stuck in there. Oh, the excitement when he finally got the
rage feather, right? It's like 20 runs. He was there for so long overnight. I'm pretty sure
Liquid heard that he got that trinket just by how loud he shouted. Everyone was well aware that he
got that trinket. How he's casting the method. I heard. Yeah, very cool. I want to check that
Because he's um
Gone into because he decided to take a step back from is another retired man
And I think soon like full-time like a bodybuilding stuff. Yep, right? And so he's a boy. Yes. No very in shape
Always always doing stuff like that. So it's not like mushrooms
Fair enough. It's that very clear
I remember do not like mushrooms and they keep feeding me mushrooms. There was a lot of mushrooms
A lot of mushrooms a lot of lasagna
That's not it.
We had, um, we didn't have lasagna today, did we?
Apparently.
You got advertised to us as a lasagna, when really it was very nice, don't get me wrong,
it wasn't lasagna, it was, uh, taisin, some, some meat and taisin, it was nice.
Don't be so British about it, it was a lean mince pea combination with dolphin water potatoes
with a lovely red cabache.
I think you'll find that dolphins had nothing to do with this mic.
They did.
Filthy potato-eating dolphins.
we had shredded dolphin on our potatoes today as we're going into the last area.
Don't listen to him.
It didn't happen that way.
How come you've hoarded all of the Final Fantasy bits?
Oh, I know that your gelataph threw them.
I mean, this is not mine, that's Chris's.
Ah, yeah, you threw it at me.
But yeah, you're absolutely correct.
It's been very lonely over here, that's all I'm saying.
Who'd you like?
I have been having, um, quen with me quite a lot, so I'll grab them. Behold.
And I hate Namazoo.
Oh no! I fell down.
There we go. Floor angle, big sad rubbery goobers.
Oh dear.
They'll just continue to slam Mythic Blast. I wonder...
I thought they'd be jumping into the raid by now, no me.
I'm wondering if there's anything that they're particularly discussing
Like if they're not entirely too sure
If you like quickly pop back over to Roger or Scrypov
I just want to see if they're muttering away
They're both looking at Mini as well
Yeah, they're trying to decide his upgrade path
Now they're going to run 3DKs
Because we're likely to see Perfecto, Narko and Mini all freezing it up
Is they're probably checking loot upgrade paths
Who's going to go where, what's going to happen here
You can see he's looking at his over month
Yeah, Mini's just like, full, you guys tell me what you want me to do, just send me a message
on Discord and I'll do it when I get back.
These guys spend hours making these decisions for the players, and the players are like,
yeah, just let me know.
Nice perfecto's path right there that Scrope was looking at, so yes, it does seem to
be a little bit of a decay discussion going on, whilst all the other players, and this
is what they're used to doing, if we are waiting for a decision to be made, or
someone to get a task done, the other players aren't just going to be sitting
in front of the boss waiting for the other person to turn up.
No, they're gonna try and find as much power
as they can from anywhere else.
Of course, with the infinite loot
that you can get from Mythic Plus,
it's a constantly spammable bit of content.
Might be worth.
No, no problems doing that.
But we're not explaining exactly what's happening.
We're saying they're discussing details, right?
This is sure.
Let's explain the nerdiness
that is actually happening here,
because I know many of you are like us,
like, just go pull the boss law.
They are going through this fight every few seconds.
What they're doing is going
the entire raid company saying right at 22 seconds we're going to get two big spiders
two goonies are in fests and then we're going to get a worm those people are going to go take
care of the worm that has that much hp so they need to divert that much time to it we're going
to do this isn't this here okay that's sorted then they're going to go 45 seconds later
this is happening at the same time potter is going right at 22 seconds
Oh, yeah, it's webs with movement that's going to happen then that's that's particular cast of spells
It's like okay, well if you use our cooldowns here at
85 seconds, we're gonna need we're gonna lack slight amounts of DPS
So where are we getting that from and they're doing that for the whole fight and then they're going?
Right, how much HP should the boss have left now?
That's not enough so now we need to go back and we need to maybe put in a different character
which then shakes up all the cool downs and I'm not joking that is what they're doing right now is they are mapping this fight down to
The second using everybody's abilities everybody's cool downs how much damage they should do they're gonna have to sim it every step of the way
And Potter similarly is like okay. We're probably going to reduce healers here
How do we cover x y and z overlap when this happens?
What if this mistake happens all that kind of stuff and they they will come up with a
Framework. Yep that should work. Are you entirely right?
That's how they did Rygalon, exactly the same way.
They framed it all out to the second.
It's like, this is what'll happen.
And then there'll be a weak aura pushed out,
which says like, reminder, you need to press X and Y now.
You don't.
And then someone else will be like,
do not use your cooldowns now.
You need them in a minute.
Like that's one thing that's kind of interesting
about the Brute Twister fight that in theory,
once you've broken one set of ads out,
you have done the fight.
You just do that over and over again.
It's just in different combinations
with different damage output from you
different damage output required from me depending on what adds you bring out right but in terms of like
getting practice on a fight like that well if you can break out eggs and not kill each other with webs
your practice is kind of done you know yeah you it comes down to being able to do the damage profiles
correctly as well as the tanks being able to sort their stuff out so there is of course some practice
to be done but if you can already sort out the dps aspect of it make sure everyone is doing
damage at the right time so you're going to be in a much nicer position yeah and it's also a lot of
the the practice is needed for when things don't go to plan so you can say something like okay evokers
you will knock the uh the parasites on this set and this one has three sets of parasites so three
evokers do that wait a minute i can't do that now because i'm assigned to x look at egg because i
got chosen to break an egg yeah because we're gonna have you know we're gonna need to double
up on the egg breaks. So what happens then? Who fills in for that gap? And then what's
the priority system then of who goes where? Do we communicate it? Or are we all talking
and saying like, I've been assigned to triangle. So I'm not going to do square, somebody else
filling for square. And then the person who's supposed to describe it is like, well, I
can't do it because now I'm over orange. Yeah, that needs to happen and be fixed.
And it can't be a case of like, send it because that's not going to work because people
are going to be spread out all over the room. It needs to be exact. Who is dealing
with this because what you can't do is sort of like go well I don't know on this one I could maybe
nip some blue or maybe I can hover over but what about you Tommy can you do it I'm busy I've got to
do this and we've got a proper healing cool down there and all this kind of stuff that can't happen
that also might be getting very deep in the weeds in terms of oh dear is that a raid coming
together may I may I know that looks like it's going to be a split raid who's in it a lot
lot of people I don't recognize. Who's it for? I imagine that we will be seeing
perfecto's character be going in here. I don't think you did the last boss, so I think we
might have to kill the last boss. Yeah I think we might have to do a quick
answer. We'll see though it could be wrong. It looks very clear to me that they
have cleared everything else out. Yeah this is an answer. Yeah they're gonna have a quick
run over towards Ansurek and finish it off but after that I do believe
there's gonna be very little left to do but we will see. I've said that a couple of times today and I've
ended up being incorrect but the idea about the knockbacks are entirely right
like but if you spend like it might also come down to you've got to let your
players play you've got incredibly good players that are good at playing on the
fly as long as you have assigned enough cc to it and backups hopefully there
might be a certain element of RNG that every single cc person has to go and
do an egg or they are webbed and they're in horrible positions
unfortunately sometimes you've got a malagon right you can't can't plan
those really really niche situations unless you know they're going to happen all the time you know
in which case you have to do a fundamental change in strategy but generally speaking plan for the
average and maybe slightly beyond the average of what you are hoping to see and if it means you just
need to pull the boss up like two or three more times then so be it you're just going to get
through it these guys have got all day to pull the bus I agree yeah and scribe agrees with you
and I agree with you as well like you can over complicate it and put stress on people and I think
I can't remember which Raid tier it was, where Scribe was sat having dinner with me and he went
I really learnt this tier that we have the best players in the world
Swiiglar!
Ta-da! That's a smiley boy!
Good! That sweet release!
Very nice!
Yeah, but Scribe legit really said exactly that, he's like, I have the best players in the world
I don't need to babysit them as much as I do
And often it could be a case of like, okay, we've got two floaters
floaters like if you see an issue just deal with it yeah and that's enough like
you've got MDI champions in here multiple MDI teams who deal with this strict
coordination on a regular basis their multi-time world champions at this so
you're absolutely right it's just making sure like who you do need somebody who's
like okay you pick up the slack right all these others to deal with these things
like if kicks I always have this issue with kicks is sometimes you're
restricted on the amount of kicks versus amount of instructs you have to
do. But when it's like, okay, four people assigned 1234. If one of those people is caught
positioned debuffed, lost, forgets. And then there's a bunch of people who just haven't
interrupted, but like, it's not my job. Just interrupt it, dude.
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
Like, yeah, I get it. It's not you're not assigned to interrupt. That doesn't
mean don't ever interrupts like that's crazy.
Yeah, for sure. Like, um, the interrupts, you're going to find that to be an incredibly important piece of organization that they're going to have to do on this boss coming up.
It's, uh, the ads cast so fast, those worms to the extent that the, um, they kind of need singling down.
You've only got so many kicks available for them before it's just like, nope.
Oh, see you.
Big, sad there. But the, um, you're entirely right, having those kicks organized and properly done and have been ready for backups, being flexible, even if you're next on someone else's lift.
If someone asks for a help, say, I've got it, but someone covered this, you know, those sorts of things are going to be very, very important, those calls on the fly.
But talking of calls, we have just received one, that after this split, not this particular one, but the one that we find, here we go, Gingian right now, after this boss goes down,
down we're going into it it is a confirmed it has happened so we are
getting ready and then moving up to do I give a special shout of course the
secret lab for providing all these chairs you can see look at Jinji modeling
that chair oh yeah and a secret lab Titan that you can pick up there of course
with a multitude of skins including a fancy final fantasy one was beautiful
it is gorgeous it is gorgeous and a bunch of warcraft skins that you
actually re-skin these chairs and put them over the top so you can have
some various designs, refresh them, if they're getting a bit
damaged. So shout out to Seekalab there and of course
display. We've got some wonderful crabs, spider
displays, all kinds of stuff that are coming out for this race
to remember it. Certainly something we'll be taking
home as memorabilia and maybe you do too, especially as the
story develops over the course of this race starting very
easy. And now maybe we will see another hollanderous type
situation developing. Who knows? That would be interesting.
We'll see. We'll see. Of course, El Gato, who have
provided the Wave DX's that they're using to talk to each other. You've heard them on their streams.
They're so good when we listen to them. There's also the facecam pros as well making it so you
can see the players in all of their beauty as well as the stream decks that we would be nowhere
without even here on the desk, let alone what production are using in order to bring you a
wonderful, wonderful show. Of course there as well amazing peripherals that all the players
are going to be using their amazing Simitar wireless mouse. Very good for MMO gaming.
I'm switching over. I'm going to give it a go. It's a normally it's always scared me
but like the more I look into this product the more like even just the side the fact that it's
got all of these different textures you can find out where you are just by the feel of your
mouse. Yeah I've got chunky hands and there's a sign that I am able to use so a few of those
are going to go missing. Unfortunate production. Sorry about that. Unfortunate. Yep we're going
going to be oinking them as well as their new K70 Max keyboards. K70s have always been
amazing and they just keep improving on them over time. So huge shout out to Ken and Guy.
But we will remind you guys of course, every time a boss dies, of course that is doing
a big giveaway. We gave away a ton of stuff yesterday. We gave away four semi-tars, headsets.
Every time a boss dies, we will be having a giveaway here. Along of course with the
Roger's Delves, which we've got here. Can we do one of those before we get started
We'll be looking to that stuff for last production if we can do a little delve with Roger there because we have so many
Things to give away. We really do like look at the state of this tons
These are all things to give away to you guys over the course of this race
So as we are our final moments of fun time happy fun time with you guys
Before we get serious and me and Alex become giga focused on what is about to come so maybe we can get a little
Roger's Delve. Roger's Treasure Trove. Yes, well we'd delve into Roger's Treasure Trove.
Yes. Although Jordan did fill these envelopes so they are probably full of makeup. They are full of lasagna with mayo in them.
Oh God. Betcha Melon mayo and mayo. What a combo. Delish. That is delish. So we'll see if we saw some giveaways out for you before we get going so we can strap in, relax, kick back and see exactly what they have been cooking up for this fight.
Will it be different to what liquid's been doing other I imagine if we can look into the future and be a bit prophetic about this
I imagine we're gonna see quite a few pulls where they're just getting used to the roots
people getting into their heads and
Then the few pulls where the differences will happen we talked about is like, okay everything
I guarantee you the prog everything goes to plan. Yes until like pull number seven and that's what it's like
Oh, well, I usually don't get picked there
Yeah, that is always the case
As soon as people start getting comfy in a fight, that's when things can start going a little bit wrong.
Although it depends on the player. Some players are out there and they really really struggle if they...
Warlocks. They really really struggle if they have to do new things all the time.
It's something that they need to take some time to get used to a fight and then they're like fully within the flow of it.
Other players thrive on the chaos and love it when everything's changing all the time.
never comfy never good it's always interesting to see the differences of the players have you seen
the root here in this um mythic plus by the way i've not done any mythic you don't go down
that you don't have to go down that middle part you can just go down one of the side
pass you don't have to deal with that guy who just does the big stun which is really annoying
i don't even know why i didn't think of that i thought it was a scenery yeah no same here
there's no apparently some actual root that you can take i honestly i'm used to m plus being
so linear and the dungeon design since m plus release being so linear but like i don't even
considered as alternative paths really. Usually is often the case that it's just a bit of scenery.
Dungeons design obviously being very heavily affected since Mythic Plus came out. When Legion
first came out it was like, we've made dungeons and there's also Mythic Plus on top of it because
that's when the Mythic Keystone was first introduced back then and then ever since BFA onwards
they've been keeping Mythic Plus in mind. Oh! Raiders assembled. Roger's treasure trove
is on the way do get your channel points in you can redeem them at any point now there's no other
point in which you want to redeem them we don't do gamble or anything like that so if you have got
channel points do throw them our way George's treasure trove is open we're going to be
yonking some of his loot we've got a whole lot of loot to be given you from many of our
wonderful partners so yes oh hey everyone let's delve into my trove and see what's
secrets we can uncover. Just don't take on my loot please.
Well these are free, these are just child points just by being here in the stream, you
just pass them in, get them in and the notification is out, Echo is going mythic, they have one
ansurek to do and then it's happening, that is where we go in. So get in there, look
at all these goodies, there's everything from pets, streamdecks, we gave away a streamdeck
yesterday actually, a streamdeck itself. A pet going away earlier today, I think
A little mischief pet earlier, which is awesome.
Trans box merch.
So many good matches, we're also giving away a mythic boost.
A full mythic boost, including the last boss.
You get to be there, go first.
Is there a mount?
Here is a mount.
You get the mount and the mythic boost?
You do indeed.
Mount the mount.
You get the mount included.
The only thing that you don't get on this is Roger.
No Rogers.
He's a wide-shouldered fella.
There he is.
Oh, it looks like the raid is full.
It looks like it.
It looks like they've got their raid full.
You're halfway there.
just a few more channel points to unlock that.
Now have you guys just slamming through?
Slam it, Team Krab, Team Spider.
Let's get this on, because we're heading to Mythic
in the next few minutes.
We certainly are.
I'm super excited to see what they've cooked up
if they've cooked up anything.
In other words, it could be true echo fashion,
where the only thing they've cooked up
is what classes they want to bring,
and they go, OK, there's eggs, right?
And I think we've got to break them out.
Let's see what we can do.
I mean, it wouldn't be the first time.
We see it going over there probably
find out to the second there's like five spreadsheets they pushed it to a week or
I don't know we're going this way just break the eggs that are close to the goo
dude and that's holy cow dude 400k left oh
slamming by my sentence it's only gonna be enough of 300k left wow you guys are
really really sending it today awesome good good no channel points you just
going for being here and we'll give you free stuff how good of a deal is
that watching any way, enjoying
this race, which is now shaving
up to be has the potential. We
don't know where we're going
yet. Well, it has the
potential to be one of the
races of all time. The race
and you did it. Well done. You've
earned a ready check. That's
what we get for doing it. We
get to pull the bus. Yes, do
vote not with a track
command now, but by clicking
the polls at the top of chat,
spider or from team crab I can confirm that when chat reverts on their decision from team spider
back to team crab we always pull the best prizes so there we go yeah get your votes in you get
to choose where it's come from I though there's no way the crabs have the better gifts I'm just
saying what happens I was actually there is all of the spider ones and it's just crabs left
Oops, all crabs.
On look.
I was there whilst Medic and Jordan were placing these in the envelopes
and I saw that they actually stuffed the majority of the boosts
somewhat not into the crabs one, so just saying.
It doesn't sound like what I heard.
I heard quite the opposite. And when I did a spider on this today, that was a streamback Excel.
Damn.
They don't fairness all of them. Wonderful prizes.
Oh, you know what we could have done?
Like what was that game show where you had to open up the boxes?
Oh God, deal or no deal.
Deal or no deal, I'm the mythic boosters.
But the mythic boosters in one of the boxes, right?
And the banker calls up and he's like,
I'll offer you the first three.
Yeah, I'll give you, all right,
I'm offering you curve right now.
Yeah, you'll get your curve.
Oh, you just lost the full mythic.
You get two out of eight.
get on normal you get a delve by yourself. I like that with a viewer that would be really
good. So do vote get your things in Team Crab or Team Spider please no exclamation mark
commands in chat just yet doing so may make it so you can't properly join in on the thing.
So yes what was that sorry chat chat has been punished for their spam boozle so it's
been to place your votes on the poll you're in email only for a moment because it
chill your boots. Yes. So if you would now spam Blalatath, I'm not sure if you can span that,
can you? In my only mode, it's a, it's a, oh, it's a special one. It's a special one. Blamed,
which, and team spider have won. Congratulations, team spider. Um, well, in which case, if you'd
like to fan them out. Oh yeah. You know, I'd give them a shuffle as well, if you like.
Legitimately with the cards, I can do the full, uh, no way. Riffle. A riffle shuffle.
A riffle. A riffle riffle. I can't do it with these, not hard enough.
But you got the normal, with the normal deck of cards. Cool!
I watched a YouTube video on how to do it, it's really easy and about half an hour later I can do it.
It's a great way of destroying a otherwise lovely set of cards.
Yes, thank you very much. This is going to be my choice, so chat.
This is what you have earned. It is...
Drum roll please.
Oh snap we have got from the Echo merch store a jersey nice these are the jerseys these are
the jerseys it's actually that one this is the jersey yeah it's got one of the older jerseys on
so if you do a jersey from the Echo merch store get a command in chat which should be provided
to you shortly I assume it's going to be X glam spider which it is so type that in once and
once only make sure it is ready now so you can do that right now make sure you
only type it in the once and make sure that you've also got your um what's it
called um DMs open so we can message you okay yes very important
while that's happening mythic is after this boss kill so me and al are gonna
go on that refresh for a second you guys should get ready because we've all
been waiting all day it's two o'clock in the afternoon here in cologne journey
at journey and mythic is about to get underway they are going in it's gonna be great so let's
have a little listening with wave and we'll be back with you ready for mythic in a couple
watching your feet soon so yes and you are getting rooted soon gather up
push the blades and then new circles coming like you go to the range on the next one
watch the walk markers circles to the walk markers you mean it's too many
people in the circle without triggering it
watch it's your and stuff yeah can go go what I remind you like about a mini
empty and he's another little place for the boys watch the feed watch the feed
oh my god is there more in the middle yeah apparently okay so I go back to
melee and frago you join me as well link thing you shouldn't need to do any
we're gonna get three stacks if you do this now watch your feet oh and roots
coming again break these roots quick then pre-spread and what markers coming
up you break these roots and then another set of circles you see the
what markers be spreading a bit and the circles sort of what markers break
them out and they're far break them up okay you can rest over go back there
Yeah, all ranged need to go far back there only ranged. So go go use personal as well
Triggered later wait who the fuck triggered that? I think I got they use everything just get a emd rally use everyone
How do we not break the web so it's quite sure I was that maybe once that peak to fall out that
Normally they just develop I can move the boss more ground more space
I'll just spawn them low, so...
4A now if it's too strong
I'll line up as well, bro
Wait, is this real muscle, bro?
What?
Ah, best is Kosh
Yeah, it's real muscle, bro
I see you're helping us out
It's a real one
Well, you're gonna do it
It's when it's time to do it everywhere for once again
Bro, I wish, yeah, like next year
I'm gonna play here, just because of this
Playing you for used
Yeah, that's what we need right now, let's see this
I mean you're here.
Nah, I'm alright.
Fuck it dude, let me in.
I'm coming.
I'm done.
I'm in a logics game for something.
I popped a disc.
I'm done.
You had the chance, yeah?
It's quite too good a disc on disc, but you left a bench.
Get it.
We need a mastery.
What is the first time around?
Four years and four hours.
Six, five, four, three, two,
on. Okay this is the one boys watching our feet and moving. The Fraggo you always spin
melee from now. In fact, Macyn also go melee. Cause we have four stacks here. The ward markers,
and be in the circle, two on the goal, okay,
ready, click two link, Macyn back up, back to ranged Macyn,
watch the blobs guys, roll the mechanics,
I'm watching feet now, go go, move,
think I might be behind,
doing the roots now,
break out your friends,
mark just coming up,
and circles to the warm-ups, go go,
ready in the circle. We got it. Cool life rally, mini aims it. Right single root hit. Watch feed now,
watch feed. Okay, science on interest. Roots coming, two times in a row, roots. First this,
blade stand, into roots again. Get close, that'll get the bird loose. Breaking out these
fast into circles again look at the world markers pre-spreading of it through world
markers now when I'm purple yeah good job good moment there purple watch the
blitz after the blitz given the circle now quick don't trigger it and trigger
back to AMZ river Boris Tank rally use the Angtotum and use the Gigiperson
So, we're going to pull in now, in 3, 2, 1, then we watch the blob waves, blobs coming
out of the boss, 1, second wave, and you will get pulled in during the 3rd class, big class
one, listen, getting pulled in in 3, big personal now, 2, 1, I can't believe it
Wait, am I going? I'm going for I guess.
Yeah, you can rest me.
The rest of us, 1, 2, 3 red.
Am I going green?
Yeah, you go.
I go cross.
Or the knockdowns.
No tank, kickle it.
I agree you know.
I'll push the arm.
1, 2, 3 is red.
Get ready for the knockdown.
Get ready for the knockdown. Don't get killed.
It doesn't matter if you're on the wrong side.
Cross side. Yeah, I know I know those some do matter cross side watch the pull in don't get pulled into the line coming now dodge the line
Green side don't get pulled off and watch the line after you land quickly dodge. I'm very getting
All right, I got the cross don't get pulled off. No recipe first
Rest me know
watch the spiders
Rison and Glicks will do the first spells
I'm cool, what is this?
Cross side is spelling, green side holding, personal is everyone
Put the mz, you can south here
Green side is spelling, that's it
Nice, push the pull in now again, don't die
Press the bow
Yeah, yeah, yeah, amazing
Going directly for the big ad, don't say we despise too much yet
Wash the purple orcs and cleave nicely now. Stun these skitters. Wash the purple orcs
still. Keep interrupting. Wash the purple orcs morning again. Last purple orcs as
you go to the next place. Go to the next platform. Now you're pumping for
like 20 seconds or nothing else. During this phase, helper friends, you will
have just place one portal always close to the middle and one far away okay that's the main thing
there will be a markers sub now first gathering on green ranged ranged is gathering on green and
then watching your feet now you're gonna dodge this range now now if you get the shackles you
go through the boss ahead of us to the ward markers these further what yeah shackles to
to the ward markers now, go.
Boris, thank you very much.
Good odds.
You stack up, that's fine.
Pop a personal here, shackle.
One more.
Now, pre-spreading a little bit,
focusing the shackles and one portal, close,
one portal, fire.
Ward markers are up.
Purple is a close one and blue is fire.
Okay, one, two, three, four.
Load of shit.
All right, now get, watch these orbs
and get close to the portals or the inner one
and you're gonna soon take it, not yet.
Don't get pulled into it by mistake, now taking it and then spreading, take and spread.
I am watching the blades under you, and the same thing, just faster, gathering near green.
Is he gonna come out?
Or crawl?
I'm gonna be ahead with the boss, can bring the boss a bit back please.
Wash your feet ranged and go through the boss with the shackles and move the boss with it back, thank you.
Control the widers.
control the spiders and then kill the spiders and kill the shackles after
and pop the main d3 in the imperfective. I mean kill the ads just to be safe. Kill the ads.
You can do it but it's too risky. I don't want it. Kill the ads. Now we're gonna
pre-spread while killing these. Interrupt them as well going forward and
one portal will go close, one going far. Kill the far, arrange that please.
pick up the essences after and stay alive with them
watch the orbs, don't die
if you take the portal, taking now, treading and killing bossing
what a kill
what do we need here, a 3-1 spread?
I mean just mainly curios as was the thing
okay, I got a ring warp on this
did you get a weapon, one hand or no?
Yes, okay
Nice
He doesn't really need to ring yet normal
Okay
Yeah, I mean of course nice, right?
Yeah, there we have it Queen answer it going down and ideally unless you just heard something
I did it. That's the end of it.
There goes Queen answer some good
strength item shopping.
I saw a 100 acts that he could use.
Maybe a plate risk as well,
but welcome back to the race to world first.
We are in day two of the mythic in the narrow bar palace.
And we are working on the fifth boss blue twister.
We've had a few pools.
We've already done a whole lot of it today,
mainly gearing up because of liquid.
Of course, all of yesterday,
80 poles on the fifth boss
doing their best to get it down still a lot of work to be done.
It seems that it's no joke echo of taking that seriously and gearing up the best they can.
Mike, please, please say that you misheard.
I did think I thought I heard Scripes say, do we need to do a normal?
No, but we'll see.
Perfectile will be his was that run was for Perfectile to finish out his DK.
My biggest concern is one thing we talked about earlier.
So I was talking to the boys who are not in the split.
They were chilling in the kitchen.
They get snacks and stuff ready because they're going to mythic. They've had the message. They are going to mythic
But they're like a little worried we're overcooking this
Because they're not deep into the fight yet with what they're doing. So it was said earlier
It's like how much do you want to prepare for this?
As opposed to let us slam and see what's going on and see where our problems are so a little concern
Maybe if some over cooking oh, you can't get it
Yeah, it's right one of the two
Rating might prevent him from going into the normal dungeon.
Recently, he's going to the dungeon because Alliance and Horde can't trade in the overworld.
Because that's a thing.
Yep.
Yep.
So they have to go into a dungeon to do trades for loot that they both got.
Or summon him back to the raid.
Or summon him back to the raid, yeah.
Should have left him in the past place.
Should have left him in the past place.
He's the one that left the raid.
You know, Phelous is quite normal for them to do all their trades in the Rookery,
but obviously this time around, if it's just for Perfecto,
or mainly just for Perfecto,
then obviously he's going to be getting the majority of that loot soon.
Oh, it seems some manner oils being applied for this upcoming necrotic way
Might be a little bit more work to do seal
Well, he's probably got a enchanted whatever and configure
But I would just like to give a big shout out to a Rintry you have won the official echo Jersey my friend
Congratulations
So make sure your twitch DMs are open so we can reach out to you and get all your information so we can send it to
your entry you absolute legend winner of Roger's little treasure trove there
we'll have many more of the course in see there's something like a hundred
envelopes of goodies to give away here yeah at least over 60 that's of my last
cap let's not disgrace it dying in two days yes otherwise we'll be doing a lot
of delts very very quick and it's delts we're doing more delts than we did on
heroic we fun times they did so many like absolutely fun times you weren't
here man you weren't here no man I've done my penance I've paid my dues over the years
that is very fair yes so I imagine could we just click back to Perfecto real quick
if possible just to see it show us cap secret show light to see come on go on
production come production show us perfecto you wouldn't no they wouldn't
every time it is what it is every time the thing is if we did push the
talk right now they say yeah no show and there is a meat they don't also you
just say the video let's talk about it there we go what the hell dude it's
because I want paying attention to us but then when if you push the push to talk
it means everything for them so oh crap they really need us yeah okay you're
fired damn it Rasmus outrageous I see what he got so he's oh he's very low
right now you can see 611 well it's got two 613 weapons but he did just
absolute a 619 from the boss, so you'll have a 619 set of braces from the boss as well.
Looking at his teargear, the chest will be able to be replaced, the shoulders as well,
mayhaps might go a little bit higher as well, the heroic piece instead.
Oh, there's Mini, the DK Cabal is coming together.
Yep, they're gonna have a hole.
There we go, look at that.
That's a three set, just traded to him there.
New set heroic.
Yep.
Enjoy.
And some off pieces to go with it.
Wait in for Stint.
They should be yours.
bad when you can get boosted like this. Not bad, eh? Well, the boost this way is going
to lead to a big boost of DPS for the whole group. Is this going into Groups? You see,
you know, Mini and Perfecto and our work cracking heads like, where exactly do we want this?
What's the best bit we can then craft on the back of it? All those kind of things
in order to figure out what the best manoeuvre is to make the most powerful Frost DK
they possibly can in the next 15 minutes. Yeah, most hopefully. But whilst that's
all going on and the other teams going out of their way to get some mythic
plus done getting as much loot as they possibly can and finishing off those
drop to my zas basically doing a little bit of a sim seeing what you need from
what dungeon and then just slamming them as much as you possibly can yeah I'm
thinking about it I'm looking for I'm I'm starting to think that maybe this
this season with it plus might be for me I'm liking it I'm getting a good
vibe from it oh really yeah what like it's a return of things like the
You know they nerfed a lot of stuff in here, because all that kind of stuff doesn't do what it used to do.
Well, I never really did Necrotic Wake. I never did much of Shadowlands at all, because I had taste.
That's it. That's what I had.
I could see the way the winds were blowing. They were blowing straight down into the moor, which I didn't want to spend my time in.
But the dungeons at least I've watched quite a lot of empty eyes and things of
the
challenge
Looks awesome in terms of some of the cool runs. There's some very cool stuff you could do in here like this
There was some very fun moments
You could sell with the javelin spear if you certainly when you go up into the ziggurat as you could
Pull everything into spear right through it or you could chain a couple of spears and wipe out massive amounts of trash
In a matter of seconds. There's a lot of routing you can do in here actually where you want to go left, right?
They've actually moved a lot of mobs around now based on what was happening in the MDI like where were people regularly skipping all right
Let's change that bit which bit was annoying where there was a there's a pillar
And I assume these guys might do as well where which was a very normal skip
Which also caused pets if somebody didn't dismiss them to pull a bunch of trash and cause wipes
They've moved around they have disabled things like the Covenant buffs like this robot
You could activate if you were carrying and gets a nice they did that for turn aside for not on the mythic zero
yes the mythic zero you can still get a lot of good stuff if you had a character
that was still alive because you could turn off you know some of the mobs that
were like the sort of lieutenant style mobs in the packs you could like make
them go to sleep or something that is a very weird one in there I think if you
were Adam Wield is that you could you only got the res checkpoint if you had
someone in there yep that's after the third boss yeah very weird decision
Because one of the biggest complaints a lot of people have about Mythic Plus is rumbax. Not fun.
In all fairness, I think I don't know what it is, but wow, generally, just awful checkpoints in raids as well.
Like, um, I don't know, like the, the, is it fun to have to remember to put a soulstone on a healer before a pull and then just mass res anyway?
In theory, it should allow you a brief moment of discussions, so you're like, okay, we need to correct this and do this and this,
but often that's not actually the case in terms of what happens.
Certainly with a lot of games moving away from that, even PoE.
The PoE2 has abandoned an idea.
You checkpoint right next to the boss,
so you can literally, you die to the boss,
you spawn next to the boss.
It's just kind of respecting your time a bit.
Mm-hmm.
You know, with a raid, there's 20 of yous,
if you're doing a mythic raid,
having to spend five minutes running back
because someone forgot to put a Warlock gateway
and a Warlock soulstone,
or maybe that soulstone was used during the fight
because you wanted to do it properly.
You know what I'm saying? Went wrong.
Crazy talk, Al.
I don't know. At least they're almost guys aren't we celebrating? They've almost got rid of the food buff shenanigans
Almost you can now get a food buff that persists through death. That is cool. It's close. We're almost there
With it just not being a thing
But you don't want food buffs at all. Yeah, but of course, but uh, I like the way other games do it
Where you just have it for like two hours
And that's it regardless of what happens. You don't like to eat after each
Oh, it's so annoying.
Getting a little food in.
Yeah, even every hour is kind of annoying.
But it's much, much better now.
So I think you have to stick five feasts together,
and then you get the one that persists through there.
So at least that's going on easing off, I will say.
It seems to be a happy middle ground.
Did have that last expansion as well with the embellish.
Yes.
Well, it was a fair, it didn't even count towards your embellish
cap, did it?
Which was very nice.
Exactly.
You could just have it live through death.
Nice little tippy toe, don't they?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think the idea being is that, you know,
It's one way of doing it that instead of the food, like it's a you're expecting to die 10 times an hour
In order for the cooks out there to get the same amount of money
They would need to make the food 10 times more expensive, right?
Because you're going through 10 times less of it
So I guess there's some economic reasons but in terms of a gameplay perspective totally with you
I'd rather just get my buffs up. I think it's kind of cool
Like there's something nice about completing your character and as you're going into combat applying all of these things
There's something I draw the line of oils not a fan of that extra one
I'm happy with flasks food potioning. Yep. Okay with that. It's a got a little silly certainly
I don't you know you were around in the burning crusade where we had like special flasks and special potions
You can only get from certain zones and they don't know back
So you could have multiple elixirs on you at the same time. So if you really want to you could wear like 12
Oh, right. Okay. We've been potion second all the way back then as well might
To the point we had two dedicated herbalists
And for the main tank what for one person for one guy? Yeah, because I will herbalist
I mean chat will probably remember any of the old schools that I pretty sure you could have an elixir of stats
Elixir of HP and elixir of armor elixir of agility elixir of strength
Oh my good, and they all stacked and you could keep going so you get elixir of healing power
I'm in the healing power. Yeah healing power was a separate one as well, and then you could have seeds
food buff and then there was another scroll that's capped and the bosses hit so hard in the early
gear like you certainly do think of hiking mogul or gruel. They hit very very hard is that every
pull and they would all disappear after every pull. They didn't persist. Oh my god. See that's
a real enemy. We did. We had two dedicated herbalists that were just feeding the main tank
for consumables. That's too much. Yeah they changed it I think about six months in something
like that. Fair play. Yeah it was just bad. You know fellas like back then the whole game
It was a little bit janky, but we obviously moved in the correct direction. There's always room for improvement though
I'm sure there's as players will always find something to complain about
Well, that show that's
Yo, it was all a bit of blur. It was just a bad time
So, I mean obviously we're talking about bosses you loved earlier like operate a full guy
Yes, I did knowledge in general my favorite fight
Oh my god, nothing but fond memories.
Good despair.
Oh man, looking back at that fight is like looking into the jaws of death.
At least they did learn. We haven't had another fiesta like that.
I don't know.
I'm kind of curious from your perspective, like obviously we're looking at
Skype and Roger and Potter all cooking together to come up with a strategy for this
unkilled boss as of yet, but as a long time raid leader at the very high world level
itself. What was the worst one? Excluding the generals.
Oh, it's just cooked. Why was it Jaina? Artifices Imox was also incredibly crap. That's here.
Um, there was just the thing is, there's a lot of average boss sets here, which are fine.
There was a couple of good bosses such as side in athriss as well as what they've
had. Sludge fist. Sludge fist was great. I actually like the one with the canisters.
Uh, I like that. That was fun. It wasn't hard, but we had to like do the connect the
the dot thing. Yeah, it's cute.
Why not?
One thing, but yeah, there's some real stinky fights in that instance.
I have no idea why they were just they were just not fun.
They were just poopy.
Zymox being one of them.
Zymox could have been the coolest boss in there.
Teleporting around, setting up your own portals,
dancing around for the ads.
But it was like if you pull the boss and you transition at 140,
then the fights infinitely harder than if you did it at 141.
And I couldn't work out when that was.
And when I could work out when it was,
we could never hit the timer correctly.
So I sat there, I was just like, portals are coming in, then eight seed spawn, and I'm like, I just want to die.
Um, so yeah, they really, I don't know, they just love spell curing that tier.
Jaina was also a spell curing thing.
Jaina, I learned a lot about, like, because that was only my second tier, properly raid leading,
and I was still learning lots, and Jaina taught me lots about, um,
what the best thing to do is when you're struggling on certain fights,
um, because it's like, it's easy as a player to identify, sometimes you're in a fight and you just kind of suck at it.
I've done that before, I've done it to a fight, and for whatever reason, I can't read it properly.
So, there's something about the animations, or something about the flow of the fight that just doesn't click,
and I'm trolling, I've just sat there and I'm completely inting,
being able to identify when other people are struggling in that way and trying to assist them as a raid leader,
seeing what are you actually struggling with, let's get to the bottom of this, between raids as an example,
see if you can pull them aside, or if push comes to shove and you've got a large enough roster, it's like, I'm sorry,
you're really, really struggling, might be best if we do a little swap here, just for this particular boss.
Yeah, it's it's it's a tough tough little thing, but it's very hard when the raid gets splits if you're leading
So I was doing a little bit of leading on the night for a while, but I did the viewer raid and
Answer acts splits the rating to oh, yes
And that is really frustrating like it's fine for like Skype and Max and whatever because they just click a button
They can see the other POV. Yeah, but I'm like the other groups dead
Why?
Yeah, I do this and then the answer is like
pull or something and you're like well all of you that doesn't make any sense and
then this happened this happens like trying to get to the root of the
problem oh yes it's infinitely more difficult especially not working oh it's
the candlestick seems incredibly high but it's kind of troll quick wick
candlestick yeah mage be nimble mage be quick mage invoke the power of the
candlestick thank you for going back so I could finish the rhyme there
Gingy yeah very kind Mike of course listening in on the stream on the other
monitor I was more remembering hopeful over dinner we were sat eating earlier
and hopeful was like I have got the candlestick bait I did the transmitter's
bait you have to do the little dance for it or whatever you have to do the
jump and all that do the jumps I don't know I like like everyone looks great on
paper but I think it's probably trolling what is the we were saying I
forgot the name again we were all talking over dinner about the boats
the biggest bait trinket ever and it was that one from Work's Mansion. It's a good question.
It was Speedbox Shadowlands so you probably didn't play with it. Oh you would have done
because it was. It took them at the quantum. Yeah. That one. It gave your sim like a 10,000
dps. However, most occasions it just gave a healer map. IQD? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Quantum device. Something. Quantum device. I remember that. And it just, the description
of it was just question mark. And you're like, dude, so yeah, it was a very cute trinket
based on the theory you could give like it checked a bunch of conditions and it
would do things based on the conditions like a healer needed mana or if there's
someone really low on health and all those yeah so if you didn't have any
those things it gave you a massive DPS buff yes I think a lot of week or as
were made to check whether it was possible to press him tricky or not oh
cringe yeah of course it was the correct thing to do as a healer going
into a pool, quickly spam all your heals to go into the fight with 10k mana, have every
single boomkin in the world just get infinitely out. You don't actually want to piss off your
boomkins as a healer, you know, if you want to get those, innovates.
It's more the case of how can we make the wild community more toxic? Let's make it
so that people do less damage because the healer healed them. Right? But it's just
of choose situation to be in is like stop healing me I need to use my DPS
trinket like the entire premise is so obnoxious it's very funny yeah it is
hilarious and I'm sure that the devs make it like I'm surprised at how they
continue to make new trinkets like after all of these years coming up with new
and unique designs obviously we have quite a lot of trinkets that are like
it's a stat barf have fun but like how you get those step off sometimes with
such as the treacherous transmitter where you go do this silly little mini-game. I think it's really
quite cute. It's the one I have. It gives you main stat, but sometimes it'll give you a lower stat.
Yeah, prox sometimes. So it's a huge stat stick that when it prox actually gives you a negative
effect. So you want it to not proc during your CDs and things. It's a cute idea. I don't actually
like the design personally. I'd hate for it to proc during my CDs as an example. Especially
it was like haste or something and it's like oh and now I'm traveling through mud
yes thanks very much but I'm very strong
I'm very strong traveling through the mud I mean to be fair like you said
they quote with new trinkets but the descriptions are getting longer we're
gonna get like Tolkien trinkets oh yeah
chapter one one day there was an attack
fire-based attack and on that day the Merlin's beard burst into flame
Enhancing your haste by one hundred and sixty-two.
But that's only on the full moon.
If on a crescent moon, divide by two and convert to versatility.
And then unfortunately, yes, and as ghouls spawned over in Revendreth.
You will be teleported to Revendreth randomly once per month!
It's the same!
Imagine you trick it, perhaps you just get ported out of the right.
What the hell?
Did it some part I didn't go on a flight path the last week so I'm getting teleported now someone submit me back
Who's that deal they sound like poor damn look at that six twenty two point five
That is a one
Chunky chunky character right now. We'll see them over six twenty one average. What's perfect to what now?
He's doing his upgrade so six twenty one on hopeful. Yeah, very nice there can't accept interests
come have a look. In fact I was buying all these goodies. Okay, that was a bad look.
No, not looking at the bin. Not looking at the bin. Oh, I want to be clear that it's
not Canex. It's not Canex's fault. It's his class. It's Blizzard. It's Blizzard. Don't
blame the class. Blame Blizzard. Always blame Blizzard. Yes. Bad Ian. Bad. Fix it.
it is. 621 frag out. Damn. That is huge. Yeah they've all done sent the weapons. A lot
of 636 weapons. Yeah I think it would have gone for a lot of crafted weapons this time
around. 619 or 618 equips. 16.8 so a mini is kind of poor. One of the sad things is
that they have of course gone for a 636 weapon but it's only a one hand. Yeah. So a little
bit rough unfortunately due to the dual wielding nature of that class he's not
shopping the waitrose Sunday market will be for the best that's what that is
sad time now he's looking to perfect on there was a higher item level than him
well whilst they are getting all of their characters together I think it might
very well be worth shouting out all of the wonderful donations that you guys
have been sending in we've got even more here and I've been reading the
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there we go and pork
i don't
Oh, dear. He's gonna come around here talking all that noise. You better respect it coming back
Osni roll. What's up, brother? Thank you so much for the big ten dollary dues
I really like the echo uses their exposure to donate to charity wholesome dude at this point for real with you guys
and all the race will first we've done it's
200 like ten thousand dollars that we are saying how much we've raised therapy
Oh that puchin's talk to me. Oh
For real bros if we hit 40k this race
I know it looks a while off
But we've got a lot of race left to go if we hit 40k and I have to eat all that cake
It's a quarter of a million dollars that has gone out to provide therapy
Help for children saving lives
That's what we do. Oh, yeah, that's of course Mike eating one entire cake per ten dollars sent in
delicious that's what we agreed on the break right you said you would from a
non-enluse nice three dollars coming in here is as a high preach hello it's me
I'm still waiting on those big tow hairs I paid very very heftily for and you
promised to send me kisses Alex it's anonymous I think you'll find oh aka
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Danish okay damn from Patrick my man what'd you say Patrick uh today learned
that Mira is an I share a birthday you do yes celebration as you as well allow me
to do a good deed of mine and help the kids good luck to echo and let's win this
race indeed yeah the money doesn't come to us it goes straight to them yes we
Middle man it is none of that shenanigans going on so and it's such a good cause
It is a wonderful wonderful cause you head over to their website and check them all out at any point that you like
If you want to have a little snoop, it is a good thing to do so feel free to do so
Oh, no, what's happened? Please buff shadow
Oh dear hey boys, I heard you like toes here's an Ingle link
And we will never be clicking that
Production is going to screen it
Because it could be a really cute picture of like some kiddie code it's kiddie toes or something
Oh, it's cute. It's very cute. Is it puppy paws because I'm down with puppy paws
We're gonna be bringing it up in two seconds. So thank you very much for the $10 there
Can I play out? I do not want to repeat this though.
Please keep your feet pitches to yourselves.
Uh, yep. They just won't go on the stream.
It's not like they're ultimately put up.
Nobody wants to see them.
No, we all have toes. We're good.
Really? We all do.
Can you imagine?
Weird.
Mine is just like, um...
Just like a smooth edge.
It's just like I was molded out of plastic.
Oh my lord.
What?
They're so cute.
No.
Look at them. We just want to give him a little squeeze. No beans, dude. You love beans Mike
Do you know like a dog no, it looks like a cat
Mike what do you have a soul?
And if so, what happened to a lovely cute fluffy doggy soul?
Filled with the hatred of demonic nightmares. There's cats cat acute
They are cute when they shred you to pieces because you want to play with them
is what it is.
It's what it is.
Oh, hopefully we'll see that.
Zalatath's obviously influenced over Mythic Plus.
The Orbs that spawn do block the hook from hitting this boss.
Oh, for God's sake, of course they do.
Of course they do.
What do you think of this whole way that they're doing Mythic Plus now?
Way better. I mean, I need to play it.
Yes, I haven't played it yet either.
Oh, it almost happened!
Terrifying.
I thought it was really interesting that obviously there's a lot of like mechanics where oh there's this hard thing
But if you deal with it you get a bonus from it one well done
You know they give you successfully dealt with the orbs and you get this bone if you if you manage to stop the orbs from reaching
And add you get this crit or whatever
But as soon as you reach 10 isn't it or above you still need to deal with the negative aspect of it
But there is no reward anymore. I think it's really kind of cool in a way
It's better than what it was it's what we've like sanguine. Oh awful like I don't know I haven't asked to be honest
But I don't know what the
Philosophy is that the modifications to mythic plus should always be negatives and
There's no reason to be excited
About mythic plus other than it's the least offensive mythic plus week. Yeah, that's what it used to be for sure
Yeah, I don't get that mentality instead of being like oh dude
It's like double haste week or it's like extra melee or it's multi strike week. Oh money strike
Right if we have multi strike week
And that'd be so fun a bit. I can't wait to play my warlock
I can't play to play my mage or whatever we get the water multi strike or something like that
Or maybe you get like shadow versions of yourself some positive. That's really fun. Yep
On top of something negative right so there is a counter to it but something to be excited about
Yeah, like I still think tyrannical and fortified are very strange choices considering now you always get both of them
It's like why do either of them exist?
Just be baked into the key level
Not only were they the most boring affects is if it didn't if you're playing on a low level
You barely even notice
But all it did was just make it so some of the hired keys were just impossible depending on the week now
If you have both of them active at all time, they are basically not affects
is it's like the most pointless thing to me in the world perfecto 615 I don't think he's
got is all of it all here we go we're losing some stuff now though let's see
but it's 616 636 weapon there on perfecto I think he just looted something else as
well yeah this is an air comes the upgrades and in the crests let's have a
look. Can't do that. We can do these. Ooh. Hmm. He's got to have a little bit of a thing.
So it's so complicated in the race to have really don't want to screw up 617. That's
not all. Oh, oh, oh, hold on. Hold. It's crazy how complicated they take it. It's not for
the rest of us. We're just going to send whatever right. But for the race will first
every scrap matters that an incorrect decision here can actually be very costly. Yes. So
is imperative that they get the pieces right which is why you've got many in there as well like
are we sure on this one? Yes. Walking through each and every upgrade. Yeah they'll be sending back
some flack of foes like what do you think of this one? This one this one we've got this limited
about a crest we can craft this we can do that this has got uh good stats yeah crit mastery
that's good um so we've already want to send that haste mastery probably don't want to send
that this is you know we can do this one. 617.25. He's not as bad and he's still got 617.6.
Damn those aren't too bad on the trinkets either. Oh, he's just sending it 18
This is a pretty good-looking character right now
Yeah, the offhanders the one that's dragging down a little bit it is
Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to have the crest on the character at the moment
Whether or not he's already spent all of them or he just has yet to go and gather them
It's something that we do not know is kind of lame
Cape is a little low. You're right. So with the shoulders not necessarily best running 610 on the shoulders
Yeah, obviously his counterparts now including our all 620 ish
Mini I think was about 618 as well
The thing is is that the way that the frosty case were performing on this fight from the look of liquid?
Even if they are like one or two I was lower
I think you're still gonna want to bring them there the way that they're
Yeah, the reaper's mark on this fight is just heaven. It's absolutely heaven
They're consistent cleaving any way you keeping that remorse this winter
You're constantly just doing natural cleave damage all the time
Which is what you want in the big spiders
You don't want to be hard focusing on them unless it's an absolutely necessary portion of fight
You want to be pouring into the boss because the boss has all the health
So we're always six eighteen and a half. Yeah, I think you can get to 619 with a couple of last-minute upgrades
I think you need to think you might have run out of fellow stones
So might be quickly popping over to pick up some bits and pieces. Oh, we might even have PvP gear
Yeah? He's even got some of the PvP gear to be grabbing.
Hands-firing honor.
Damn. There's so many different systems.
I don't know what's going on anymore.
Now we can go here. We can do that.
This is what they need. They need to know every source to make the correct decisions.
It's too much.
It's a lot. Like, the crafting system alone, did you?
I saw it right up this morning of somebody who returned to the game.
I had friends come back because it was like,
The story is really good the gameplay is rock solid got my friends back in and then they tried the crafting system
I don't understand it. So just exploded. Yeah, it's very
The thing is is that I don't even necessarily think it's like, you know, there's a lot of people that are doing join the system
It's just a very dense system. It reminds me of
The way that you first interact with P. Weed to a lesser extent up to you in this game
Oh, yeah
I just opened up Peewee, I pop in and I'm just like, whoa, I always wanted to do Final Fantasy upside down, Final Fantasy X Fiercruid on crack, that's a great buy for me.
Oh snap, it looks like we might actually be jumping into Brutus and Fiercruid on a blood decay.
I thought that means that I think we might be seeing our boy, the one and only, the druid master, the one that we're being so cruel to, canyx, even potentially making it a lady.
make it into the rain. It's got to be nice means, right? What nice means on what? Oh,
vengeance. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to be triple DK. Yeah, triple tank. No, that is
Kalex. Oh, Kalex tanking. Yeah. Damn. Okay. So it's Kalex, Meras, and nice means triple
tank and we're having triple frost DK, I guess. Damn, is Robin going DPS? I think
Robin's going DPS. We're not sending the narco signal. Um, I don't know. Maybe narcos
carriages can mature. It might be. We don't call narcos all the end of the raid. That
is true. Anytime that you do, um, send a narco in for a boss, there's a chance that
he does disappear for the rest of the tier. Um, and he hasn't already been in. He came
in on boss two. He did. So bloodbound guy. So much bloodbound guy. You have a spin
the spin blood guy. Spin blood boy. Yes, very much so. Okay,
Roger trying to justify his decisions. Oh, like sure, Roger.
Sure. Yeah, so the laundry will be okay. So listen, what I'm
saying is all we need to do is we need to get this in there
and then your work. Okay, we take 500 dks and then we kill
everything. We get 500 dks that we crush them into a nice
soup and we feed it to Narko for him to do as much damage
just possible. We'll get all the DKs you want, won't you?
If a raid being made though, hopefully, we have been what feels like on the edge of our
seats this entire day. Show me a comp production and somebody who's got frames up. Maybe Merez.
Merez is somebody pretty good. Does he normally just have things in the way?
There's no way we're going quad DKs because it is mad if we are not bringing Narko
Because he's as good. I don't even know what now because the case looking like I'll come. Oh, yeah, there is
It's about to get cold
Okay, so if we're going with this right now, it looks like we're going for a triple tank comp
Melle blast. We're doing it to enhancement shamans
for frost DK's to
fury warriors
No class stacking by the way
We've got soul on the hunter I imagine M.M. Maybe it'll be hilarious if it was otherwise
But I don't think he's got to be a man. He's gonna be a man. Yeah, frag on org hold on
What healer is have we got Fanna doing rats? What yeah, where are we who what's going on?
I got good. Can we get a fan of these razz?
Are we bringing the whole we're bringing the judgment spanners playing rat?
Six she's like six nineteen and what it this is about the most zug-zug echo comp I have seen in years
This is some false mark. This is full ridiculous. This is full making no sense, dude
It makes sense. It does make sense all the apps are gonna run to them. Oh
Dear oh Jesus Christ. We are full zug-zug that mage is feeling very much like hold on so that's so
right now. Who's the Warlock? We must have one Warlock. They're not going Warlock-less.
Oh, is it Wolf Disco? Wolf Disco one. Uh, it's Zerbo. There we go. It's Zerbo. Wolf Disco out then.
Wolf, at the moment, looking on the multi-view is currently not in the very door, right?
Interesting. Wolf, of course, got a very good Warrior, very good Warlock, but it may imagine
He's not as good as Revers or Wolff. This is a very funny bomb.
There's no way to sit. This is not the comp that kills us, boss. I'm telling you.
You're telling me they're going to change it? What would you do to improve it?
I think, in theory, they're just going to... You think it's too much ad damage?
That's so toxic, right? All the DK ad damage is going to be passive.
The warrior stuff is kind of passive with their burst.
They just love it anyway.
Rets are doing single target and bursting because she's straight single target for the most part the major single target
It's actually passive. This is just the most passive cleave zugzug
Don't come near me or we'll murder you build. Do you know the weirdest thing about this compass?
There's only one oak
Everything about this makes sense. Oh man. Yes, we have got a friend. He smelled the mythic
He smells the night level if we are joined by G.T.Tath on the analysis desk
your thoughts as you've now seen this come to fruition?
Well, they certainly spent long enough cooking it.
You had to assume something crazy was coming out of the oven.
They've been working on this all morning,
working on spreadsheets, timelines, comp,
building the classes they needed to,
with Mythic Plus getting perfecto gear
on his Frost Death Knight.
It's a shocking comp.
A lot of swaps, not only were we three taking,
but Robin's not one of them
so that he can go on his Death Knight and play Frost.
We're healing, but not with...
One of the main healers is playing ret, you know, wild things happening here. And I think you're right
that this will not be the comp that ends up killing the boss, but it's a science-based approach to
figure out what can happen based on what they've seen from the liquid pulls to see if this will
be good enough to kill the adds, because like we talked about, the scary part of this fight
is add control. The loss damage on them, it multiplies out of control very, very rapidly,
so we'll have to see if this takes care of it. This feels like a parasite first comp,
Because with all this passive and burst cleave, they should be able to annihilate the parasites every single spawn wave
Without issue and then maybe move. Do worms last seems to be like the wise approach
That is one thing that of course liquided on what their most successful pull of the night right towards the very end
Starting with those parasites because it's something that they can control the additional health going on to such a few
mobs and you've got such a great amount of AoE going into them makes sense then
you might think of course going worms next a 50% health increase for the
giant spiders versus the kind of medium-sized worms you're like yeah of
course that's gonna be overall less damage you need to deal but the worms
require so much focus because you really can't have them up for too long
because otherwise they're kicks go through it. They have the secret nightmare you think the worms are not a big deal in
fact on heroic you generally like ignore the worms to last because they
don't require much interrupting. They're out the way you just drag the boss over there when you're
ready and just kill them and ignore the parasites away worse and so the bigger spiders that do a
lot of tank damage but in this way is far reverse. They require so much attention. So if you were to
say let's look at the subjectively right they've got this smoky zug-zug build. Where is the big
disadvantage? What I'm seeing is they're going to have to spread for worms so the melee is
going to have to leave the clump to be at worms when the worms are separated because
because they can't be moved.
So yes, you could drag the boss on top of Worm A,
but they're gonna have to move Genji and so on
interrupts too long to deal with them.
The shamans could maybe get away with it though.
Yeah, like you will certainly have range players
dealing with the range worms.
And the idea is I hope that there's just
at such a cluster of giant damage underneath the boss
that anything is there is just gone within a few moments
allowing this sort of like whirlwind storm
of just AoE cleave just to kind of follow the boss
chewing up any adds that happen to be ground into it at the same time. I think
that's the kind of play of the comp, right? It's just a get him under the
boss and grind him up. That's the full meat grinder. Real Cinderella story though
for Canex. I know man! I mean from the bench because DPS drew it so bad but he
comes back in on the Guardian. Who was thinking that Canex would be tanking on
are the Guardian Druid on the fifth pass?
What's going on?
This tier is like shaping out to be a very, very confusing time
as indeed they are heading themselves in
starting to clear the trash towards Brute Twister.
Maybe as we're heading our way over there, Jesse,
I don't know if maybe you can walk us through
maybe some of the changes that we're expecting to see
on this fight for those who are brand new
to the mythic version of this encounter.
Yeah, so we have two things to show you.
First of all, is this lovely graphic demonstrating
changes going from heroic to mythic on Brute Twister Overnax.
What we thought was going to be a big deal,
but isn't as much a big deal in line
of how difficult the ads are, is that instead of on heroic
and normal, where one person with a circle around them
could pop an egg, you need two to overlap on the egg
in order to break the egg.
Missing a single egg is a guaranteed wipe,
so any of the people marked failing to coordinate
and go to the correct marker with their correct partner
to pop the correct egg results in a wipe.
And you normally would think that's a difficult coordination
And it would be if it weren't for the fact that the bigger difference is that on mythic
Unlike on herogonormal where you can completely avoid any mutations on mythic mutations are inevitable because whenever you go to one of the quadrants of the room or
Tridents, I'm not sure what the sector a sector of the room
The boss will mutate every ad of the type that's emphasized in that room
And we actually put together a little map for you. Let me see if I can pull this up for you
Alex and I went through, squinted at a bunch of POVs in order to, this is the actual egg
map of the floor, relatively close to exactly where each and every egg was.
You can see that each quadrant has eight of the ad that's emphasized in that area, and
then another five each of the other.
So for example, up here in the spider quadrant, you have eight big spiders, and then you
have five worms and five gohunis.
Yeah, down at the Gohooni sector, you have eight Gohooni eggs and then five spiders and five worms and so on.
Really importantly, as we said, not only if, say that we were going to go to the spider sector first,
not only would she then mutate all of the spiders in that sector, that's what that red circle then indicates,
they're actually mutated all throughout the entire room for the rest of the fight.
So when you choose a sector to go to, you're choosing which ads you think you can handle through the entire fight.
When you choose a sector to go last, you're choosing the ones you want to deal with for the least portion of the fight, but inevitably, in the last sector, you're dealing with all three mutated at the same time.
And that's why they decide, generally speaking, it seems to be the going idea that you do settle the kahoonies because that's something that you can deal with, hopefully, with a bunch of knockbacks under the boss and just once again that meat grinder allowing them just to be melted before they even get anything off.
And they do have the least health getting buffed by that 50% scaling.
Yes, and then afterwards going to the spiders and then to the worm seems to be the way of going around it at the moment
So on this map that'll be the bottom left and then going round in a clockwise way
So it'll be interesting because maybe they're doing something different obviously. Yeah, I'm wondering if with this build actually worms aren't that bad
It's possible like the worms are obviously
Very threatening, but your compaction dictates what is more dangerous
And that's and the big issue we see liquid have managed to clear all the eggs relatively cleanly
But still it's like 23% left on the boss, right? Yeah, which is a lot because it has nine billion HP
I think so that's a lot of HP left to go with no room left
To actually deal with the mechanics of the fight anymore
I'm wondering with this bill that they actually thought about I'm going you know what we had a lot of HP to those big spiders
And that is damage that is going elsewhere, right? You are cleaving
You are you know, you are hitting them and doing things to them, which you maybe not already know what they do
Maybe the worms aren't too bad. It's like mathematically speaking say that there was a the same prior for all ads
Then a hundred percent the spider should be last right that makes the most sense because they have the highest base amount of health
It'll be increased by 50 percent. So numerically speaking that is certainly
Something that you can do however three tanks. I don't think that's what they're doing
No, you wouldn't bring three tanks if you're gonna leave the spiders to last
Yeah, no, it's another thing that you can do as well. It depends on um, I misread that, the name of that, that macro.
Um, um, I thought it said, I echo ass. No, is it birthday?
Aww, there we go. But the, um, the idea of running three tanks on this flight is mainly because the tank debuff is so hilariously strong if you have low health.
The boss will just slap you for a ton and then put a debuff on you, and when that debuff
expires you do a raid damage based on your missing health.
So if you're not fully top-top-mythic, the raid is going to be in the floor with you.
It's going to be a very, very sad time.
So having that extra tank allowing you to control the spiders and control those adds
in a fashion that won't overlap with the debuff just makes everything run a little
bit smoother.
It's not impossible to two-tank this, but if you two-tank it, you generally want
a four healer.
And generally speaking, tanks are doing more damage than the healers are.
So if you're going to have to run six support-style roles, either tanks or healers, then you definitely
want to be throwing as many tanks as you can at it just to increase the amount of damage
that you're dealing.
But who knows, they might be able to, if it really comes down to it, refine it down to
two tanks, three heal.
We'll find out.
We'll see.
What we want to see from Echo over these next little while here is then get to the
end of the fight.
That first takes some learning.
They're going to make a lot of mistakes.
There's going to be assignment swaps.
Does this even work with full smock?
Don't know.
They're going to have to give it quite a few pulls before they can assess whether this is
working out or where the weakness really shines and what they're doing.
So it's going to take a little while to get there and then we might see some refining.
Is the boss even remotely close to death with this ability, with this technique by
the time it gets to the end?
If they get to the end of the fight relatively cleanly and the boss has still got over
a billion HP, is that something they can just refine via shifting people's damage
portions elsewhere?
Which echo a phenomenal doing.
They find damage just lost to the aether on occasions.
And so we'll see where they go with this
because you've seen she's a big old girl
and she's ready to tackle Echo
and then she's gonna smudge them into the floor pretty damn fast.
I'm really looking forward to Echo getting a new best pull
and we can see what their item level is.
They have done a lot of work since they last played
yesterday, a lot of crafting of weapons as an example,
a lot of mythic plus and a lot of upgrading of loot.
I don't know, they always somehow manage to smuggle some power away to be used at a later point,
but it does feel that quite a lot of these characters have sent a lot of what they had in reserve.
So, interesting to see how close they are to Liquid as an example, who are 619.7 currently on their very best pool.
Luckily, it'll be the DK dragging them down, I think.
It will be, yeah, because I think a lot of them are 621 or above.
like maybe cut a little bit off guard, perhaps in terms of how strong DKs run.
How do you predict you might want four DKs? It's very true. Very true.
Two's always been too too many.
I mean it's like do we need grip? Okay tank go blood and it's solved, right? I mean
add control should not be a problem here. We've got quad slappy hands,
we've got lots of knocks, we've also got
nice beams mass grip. Like if these if these parasites start
running around something real goofy real quick. Yeah, we've got I mean they're both all they're probably carrying double grip
So that's eight individual grips. Yeah, they're carrying with them at the same time. So
Yeah, these ads are gonna less. These ads are going to get slapped with this comp
So yeah, as you can see the players already in themselves up just getting that last rez rez
Summon in for now
not tanking. When was the last time we saw now DPSing in a race?
I don't think... I'm not in M+, but I don't really have any limits.
Oh, we did actually see the last tier when he was DPS, wasn't he?
Wasn't he Rat when he left Echo and went sort of like not casual, but he left the race to world first.
I went and joined another guild, he might not have tanked there, that's right, true.
I brought the game in a race to world first setting, not that he's obviously not capable of it,
a very very strong player.
No, notoriously crap player, Robin.
What a time, NDI champion. No first, fifth, fourth, liquid, and echo. Notoriously craps.
Notoriously craps, pizza-eating, and Robin. Oh, no. Shockingly bad Maltese player.
The last time I remember him DPSing in a raid, in a race world first, was in the
Jaineteer when he was a DPS demon hunter for Limit at the time.
Oh, damn, there we go.
I think that was the last time. That's a lot of time ago as well.
That was a long time ago.
Battlefield is our allure, it was two expansions ago.
How do you think Canex feels taking into this role?
There is no way in hell Canex came into this race to world first,
at any point suspecting he would be tanking on progression.
Well, probably not, that is correct.
But it's something that every Echo player does on splits
and on farm, doing whatever is necessary
in order to make sure that the guild succeeds.
We saw half of this raid either healing
or tanking during splits.
And of course while he was farming with the plus and doing delts, he's in a lot of tanks
and he's comfortable on it, he's ready to go, he's a druid connoisseur with all four
specs, I'm confident that it will go just fine.
And if you ever wanted to see a more strong reason why Ekko made that decision like 40
years ago that every player had to be a multi-classer, it was just a requirement of the guild
at that point.
You could not be, you know, a one-trick or whatever, you know, you want to say
he's like, I'm just this, that's just does not fly from moments like this.
Well, you can see, you know, if Perfecto was like, I'm only rogue, then we'll be
missing out on a very very strong player right now because we wouldn't be able to
have him on his DK so that's it's lots of those sort of elements of it that you
know you don't want to be losing out on these fantastic players you know if
they're just a little bit restricting themselves in playing other classes an
interesting tier for this to happen you don't see this big of a shake-up
usually on a progression five but on boss five in particular but this is a
tier when they were able to level far more characters than any other tier
and pair far more characters than any other tier and have more as potential mains than any
other tier because of the extended duration of the season releasing in this kind of staggered
fashion and having an entire heroic week in which to prepare.
We did see perfecto DK in the splits doing just fine.
So this is the tier when they could make it happen.
The biggest surprise to me is that Thanos got, you know, a ret paladin with a weapon
ready to go.
Like, that's a, that's an interesting one.
Why is that?
Why is Kenix in a Trashbin?
Robo Kalex bin. What? He rises. I heard you asking production for some sort of asset, production
saying not that quickly. You say just ask Chris. Great to have Chris on site.
Turbo Pin. He rises up. Oh my word. Kennex in the ring. Anyway it takes. Anyway it takes.
I can do it coach. Just give me a chance. Goodness. Just get me in. Oh that's great.
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How they been so swift with him it's cat X prime I love it. Oh my words
This isn't even my fault!
God damn!
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Oh my goodness.
I really want to pull the boss down.
Oh, hopefully they pull the boss.
I'm interested to see what role canyx will be taking,
because nice means, you know, demon hunter, venture demon hunter,
if you remember it from last expansion,
with all of the different sigils that you had,
you had a crazy amount of crowd control.
That has been lessened. You don't have more than one sigil of chains now,
chains now as an example I don't think, I don't think you can get multiple of those.
So they are going to be in a slightly weaker spot but we will see. You can see some bops
going out on the shamans there. Do you see that? Both of them are... Do you think, hear
me out, do you think you can immune the infest cast with a bop?
I don't know if you can, I didn't try but it is the case if you probably pre-immune
it. They don't have a quick way of getting
away I think they're faster than Ghost Wolf.
Well also it just allows them to stay there and slam face.
That's what I'm thinking about so that would also occur for the DKs but you don't want
it for them I don't think because they can maybe blinding sleet or something like that
you know just disorientate them very briefly.
Not too sure.
Yeah to make it get away.
They can also asphyxiate probably although we will be using a least one so there's
a plan in motion so I mean I assume that was a macro actually being set up to make
sure that they have those without having to wait for it and even a millisecond could be
too long sometimes that infest cast is going out. I mean with this comp they're absolutely
aiming even when they're buffed to not have them cast big save.
Yes, no you just wanted to get them. For God's sake.
You said he was binted. I said his class was, yeah but the boy in the bin, he's
small now it did just kind of hinge yeah he's canex prime he's ready to go he's
gonna prove you all wrong especially you Alex he was crapping on him yesterday I
was what I was doing no such thing always behind canex consistently amazing
player sad that the bootkins trash but we got him in I assume I'd like to
follow nice memes on the first pull if we could I'm curious as to whether he's
taking a more big spider control role instead of actively
tanking the boss at any point.
But his gear level is so high that that means
you can actually want to take the least, really, right?
He's a good almost 10 item levels below nice means.
Yeah.
And probably Mires is about the same as nice means.
Right now.
So you probably want them taking the brutal amounts
of damage.
It'd be interesting to see the logs actually
to see which of the tanks, like especially
both the spiders first we haven't seen where they're gonna start yet we're
currently chilling in wormed country I believe well yesterday before they kicked
us out from watching they were going over towards the world the parasites
first so what's soul doing soul marking I don't know oh that's
I was gonna say that
Something's not right
This will be for his webs obviously
Yep
Indication I think they're going to pair sites first, but I'll exit it. Yeah, this company's got to try parasites, but yeah
this is me grinder extraordinaire. I'm just interested to see what sort of
position they will be in when they reach a similar combat time to liquids best
pull. Obviously liquids best pull you know they were still working out they're
still doing a lot of science there's still a lot of refinement they obviously
had deaths they didn't just get to that point and everyone instantly died it
was like a staggered death leading up to that point of their best pull so be
cool to see the differences between them but you know liquid we've got a
lot of practice on this boss now they've got a hell of a lot more
more comfy than Echo have. So they, you know, although this is a great opportunity for Echo
to catch up, they can't just say, oh, you know, we've got four DKs. That means we automatically
win. No, this is going to be testing them. They need to make sure they're doing it correctly.
If they one tap this boss, I will laugh. That's never happening. I've had one proper
pull, by the way, when I did my prediction. Yeah, predictions, a little scoff at this
Happily so I've never been more happy to be wrong. Oh, yeah. Can we see Skype a scrap delivering a sermon right now?
Who's delivering the sermon right now? Can we see Roger?
I know no
Maris somebody's reading from the book of cooking. No, but somebody's sheffing right now. Is it potter?
No
Really just a okay. They're watching anime again. They could be having a little watch together
just watching YouTube. Oh, look at Perfecto ready. He's clearly stressed about the death
of that plane. You can see the tension building. I wonder if you guys can think of any time
we've had this many melee in a group before? Lots of dread immediately comes to mind,
of course. This is, I think, might be the fewest range I can remember outside of
Pils. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven range. Yeah, it's quite a low amount.
I remember back in Lord's of Dread though, of course we ran with a what five healer comp, a five range comp perhaps
Four healers, yeah, and a couple of them were Pody Parallels, Pody Parallels, of course
True, yeah
So, if I just look at DPS, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 melee
Yeah, excluding the tanks, 10 melee
Half of the raided melee, 10, kind of wild
13 melee positions in terms of you know 13 players needing to be in melee range in order to do their job with the three tanks on top of that
That is quite a heavy heavy push towards that direction
Cannex bench ready
I wonder why Sam has so now might be able to quickly pick up some bits and pieces before they pull the boss
Didn't bring any water
Oh no, he's fading out. I don't feel so good scrapped
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What are mythic spritos everything like killing the first four bosses on three or so raids and seeing what drops
Not in that regard, but we've done with it. We've done with it. We did mythic splits. Yeah, we had
What what tools that turn up Alice? Yeah, let's give context to actually echo do it last year as well if you can't prog
Anymore like on the next boss you like it's not going to die before the reset
But at the same time there are people who weren't in the mythic raider
You think pretty sure you might want next week
It is totally reasonable to go and do those easier bosses on mythic with that kind
Let's say like the situation now
We we're gonna need a fourth DK next week and they haven't been in the mythic lockout yet
It is totally reasonable to do a mythic split where you run mythic again with all the old characters for that character to get them
Yeah, entirely right. Another thing, back when we were released, we knew that we wanted to kill Ashfaim in Eternal Palace, which was the fourth boss.
The first three bosses were nothing burgers, so we brought our Ashfaim kill comp for the first three bosses to make that as strong as possible.
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I'm glad you're fighting me.
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MiraCat, I think you're very, very cute.
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Imagine if that was a dog.
It's so much cuter.
MiraCat, I think you're very, very cute.
You're very very cute. Don't listen to him. Don't listen to him at all you and canyx
Same house we have got a five dollar donations from a non-em out
Question for Mike since
He is the expert since
Zellie hovers everywhere. Does that mean her feet are clean and smell good?
Here's my puppy to make up for the silly question. So we have always got a wonderful
Oh he's like a little bit better!
It's a little rug on the floor!
Yeah, infinitely better than a cat.
Word! You didn't answer the question though.
I forgot it.
In fact, it gave me a look of despair which I agreed with.
Got another one dollar donation from Toby Pryant.
He says hello preach, it's me again.
I'm coming to preach, we're on dress as a toe.
I'll see you there.
I don't mind, you can dress as you want, doesn't affect me.
We've got a ten dollar donation in from
from Anonymous. Yeah, this one, I'm reading it as if it's going to be a win. No, just Anonymous.
$100, excuse me. So thank you so, so much. He says, enjoying the stream and good luck on the
race. Really do appreciate that Anonymous. Thank you so, so much. Thank you so much.
And a, oh, yes. You're so pretty with your lovely pretty pup. The pup is pretty.
Yeah, well you're looking so pretty today. That's why correct now. Nothing else can live up to the makeup
So it's got 10 dollar nation in from that caskin. It's just as thanks for the entertainment
Thank you all for your very very generous donations all going towards a wonderful cause with lots of fun things coming our way as well
So stay tuned for all of the good stuff such as this upcoming ready check that's leading us into the pool
Mirrors is here
Where's he gone? Yeah, sometimes if you just say it hopefully a man of it's like manifestation
We go to mirrors. He's just talking around in the stupid new city
Doing
Nothing even wrong with it. I
Can't find my way around here. Oh, it's the same. No, not not not to ginger you go to mirrors
There he is. Oh, thanks for making us wait mirrors as you do laps
It's podcast indeed. You just get himself ready except
Oh, you can land on those chains. Yeah, that's a birthday strike. He's like, you know what guys?
It's my birthday. Do you know what? I did actually just get a message in but I wasn't sure if it was from Pimbo
Makes sense now. He said he they're not gonna point to eat more cake, Mike. No
Maybe we need to get some more cake
I've got a big run waiting for me after this to get rid of that cake. That cake is out of here
Is it still is Roger still doing his thing? Is he still on the mounts? I'm kind of surprised that they
Take him the time to kind of get this pull in. It totally is. Look at him
They are 100% looking at a map on the other screen like we're gonna do this set
They've been gonna do that set that we're gonna do this
Sam can you go pop up on him?
Yeah, I sent them my map
Now they're now they're ready to go all morning. They didn't have it now
They're ready to start playing me
I'm just saying that that map doesn't matter apart from Tamera's who just needs some mark
Let's be real none of the players care
They're just gonna just tell me when to use my CDs and I'll go to the one that you marked me for that's it
The power of tanking you can always drag the entire pool of melee with you wherever you want
That is true. You have to escort them around like a bunch of lost little lambs going to the place of needy.
They have seen characters, Bantus.
Did they?
I did not notice if they did.
I saw the Bantus scrolls go down in number.
I didn't see any lines come out.
Well, when a ready check comes in, you can normally see that with the ready check pattern that they use.
Yeah, there's no way in hell they had Bantus in here, even with the characters they're not likely to use yet.
I was going to say like what happens if Frost DK is busted on Silkencourt, right?
You want to use Ante for that instead so um and on Ancerak if the dragon is extreme
the DK is going to be full.
There are no dragons on Ancerak.
Oh don't say it again.
Every time you say dragon that was last mentioned.
And now Miros is locked off for his birthday.
He's going to come back with a party popper in his mouth going to head out for a good night in Kelowna.
He's on a different brewmaster then. That was a 618. I think that was 621 brewmaster.
No, surely he's not swapping between brewmasters.
He has many brewmasters. He's the master of the brews.
That is true. That is true.
Well, the thing is, it's all this time that they're spending, getting themselves ready and listening to a bit of yap
Coming out of Roger's mouth that gives us more time to listen to me yap about your wonderful donations that you've been sending it
Or maybe you would like to read them my friend of the world. No boss. Dude. I can't help that one thing. I can control
You see but it's a read these wonderful donations
Yes
Please make him toot.
Don't do it on the couch, Mike.
He's a birthday boy!
He is a birthday boy indeed. Doos to go send some merits and love.
Oh, we haven't embarrassed Medic in a while.
So...
Oh, tone, oh boy!
It was... Do you tell it, Al?
You'll wistfully lay it out like a little story.
Well, we was all downstairs.
We have reconvened for some food.
We went down, we enjoyed ourselves a lovely bit of a...
tatties and meat and it was lovely and then they brought in some boxes and was
all sat around having a nice little meal of the two tables that we have they
brought in some white boxes clearly indicating some sort of baked good and
medic was sat in such a fashion well he know medic just said oh these are for
meres this is meres is surprise when's he gonna be here and unfortunately for
or our good friend Medic.
Merus was directly behind him.
Back to back.
And it went very quiet when Medic spoke.
He's got a very deep, powerful voice
that carries in an open space like that.
And it was painful.
It was full clam.
It was painfully funny.
It was full clam mode.
It was very, very funny.
It actually worked very hard
to keep the whole thing a secret.
Because obviously we all go down at the same time
for lunch because that's when it cooked
and we're ready to go.
So it's not unusual that everybody
be in the cafeteria area at that time and they were just doing things and mirrors wasn't paying
attention and they brought the boxes in and Grimm had gone around saying can you all be downstairs
we're going to surprise mirrors his girlfriend has sent him some really wonderful cake from a
really expensive bakery it's going to be really cool we'll get a picture on and all this kind
of stuff and we're all sat there sort of chit chatting away but obviously we're all really there
to sing happy birthday to Mary since oh yeah and then it goes yeah is this the surprise for
Mirrors. Oh no. And ruined mirrors his birthday. He actually cried. He was gonna say those tears in
his eyes. Yeah, he just threw the cake on the floor. That's where we ate it from. Floor cake,
floor cake, best cake. And then he came upstairs and says, if any of you wish me happy birthday again,
I'm leaving. So please do get your tweets in to Mirrors, send him some happy birthday. Yeah,
Yeah, if you can tweet at medic casts, good job, ruining mirrors' day, that is at medic casts.
Oh no!
Just letting you know your disappointment in ruining mirrors' birthday, you now still listen to Roger Brown.
In all fairness, mirrors was also there saying the white baked good boxes being brought in.
Yeah, it was not subtle.
Yeah, it was my birthday and baked good boxes were being brought in.
Oh cool, there's the cake!
It was certainly confirmed, the suspicions were confirmed.
I like that Ronny was putting a tripod up with a camera pointing at Mira's.
Yeah.
Supply.
It wasn't, it wasn't, yeah, that was, okay, there we can play medic entirely, but it's
fun too.
So it was him.
Before then it was perfect.
I've never seen such a strategic weekend surprise party in my life.
Oh dear me.
Especially in camp because there'll be no party while the pools are taking place.
That is fair.
That is very, very true.
And pools hopefully will be taking place as soon as Mira's locked back in.
Sure, sure.
Well, there is one thing that I would love to get to before the pools do get in as we have received a $500 donation from Peter.
So thank you so much for the $500 donation.
Is that Peter and Shadow Priest?
Alright, just as Peter who says, as a kid losing both parents of an age of 15 gaming has always been my safe space and it is still of an age 23.
Thank you guys for supporting this and hosting this amazing event. You're all great. And they also sent in a
image which I assume production has available to us as well
This from Peter the donation that you told me about
You so so much really really do appreciate that
Damn
Awesome mug a Sunday whisper effects. It's really cool. That's almost like a like a mummified sort of
I'm sorry. Some people also read. I've read all of them. I don't. Well, as you can tell,
by the way, I read that donation. Me, no, read that good. But thank you so much, Peter.
That's incredibly, incredibly generous. Many, many, much love to you.
Do you like Gertie Howick?
Gertie Howick?
What did you just say?
Words? Some words.
It's the regeneration of Stilgar that still gets to me.
Stilgar?
I was also sad when they regenerated.
You guys are so funny.
It's not only do you take our happiness by smashing through $7000.
Also, you make it $7,069.
Nice.
You guys absolutely fantastic. You have been so so generous. I'm gonna see if I can speed run through some of these donations
Whilst we're waiting for the boss to pull because when the boss is pulling we're gonna focus more on that
So we got a $10 donation from mr.
Kexman who says love seeing games for love being the charity of choice for the echo team
Love seeing the work of the cast is in production are putting in excited for the race of the world first to be finally be back
Thank you so much. Mr. Kexman wonderful seeing in the Manchester recently and we got another $10 donation in from oh
Oh, Gandhi. Not as in that, Gandhi. But Gandhi AU. He says, being sick as a kid sucks good luck with the race.
Thank you so much, Gandhi. Now you've written it for me, Mike. We've got a 10 dollar donation in from TREED.
He says, Mike, you are a clown. Alex, you are a legend. Oh, thank you. You know what?
Iris munchie and apparently there is a image from dreed and if we can get that one up
We can't get that one up unfortunately, so I don't know but I'm gonna I'm gonna leave it unticked
So that maybe in a quieter time. We will return to it
It's going on that. Oh, is it a bad link? You would think you would know better. He works in I see
Oh, okay, so we need an image. I like if you want to send in a $1 donation
We can see if we can get to that. Thank you very much. Mr. Dreed. You've got miss flux
For a 10 dollar nation. He says
Enjoying the stream and the cast is as always you saw the kitty the other day and here is my doggo from miss
Recognize oh who's a good boy?
So much better than a cat. Oh, it was a good girl. Oh, I miss my dogs man
Sad we got sad sound track my date tomorrow and I'm not there
Greg's
Who says thanks for all you do for all you do cast this echo and of course chat much love to chat. Here's my pop from anonymous
Oh
A magazine or something
Beautiful beautiful pop. Yeah, we had even like in a bucket and a parrot hat and all sorts of stuff
We got a $10 donation in from sneaky fox who just says how to send dog
How do I dog how how dogs and how dog sad face image link you can send us an image link with your donation
And if you actually do want to send a picture of dogs for free just love it on a one-dollar donation
And we'll get that up for you. Thank you very much for the $10 poppers. We've also got goose but oh damn
Where did goose but go? I don't know that is goose but
There is why you guys abandon me a $10 donation
Oh
It's from Goose but this is help help. Thank you very much
We have also got
Oh
Sam informing us that Goose but unfortunately not with us anymore
Little fiery demise
One dollar donation in from
Duh Duh Duh Duh Duh Duh Tanya who says hi Mike your anti-cat comments are not appreciated
Here is Bailey. He is the best he sometimes acts like a dog because he can play fetch cats rule dogs drill
Not true not looking at that
They do do that
Only imagellings. I'm sorry. It is what it is apparently it's something. Oh, it looks like cats are banned cats are
We've got a hundred dollars coming in from Tex who says great cause and great event Mike. Here's my poppers just for you and this is an image a link from Tex.
Oh wow. Yeah, I feel like when you walk up to the dog, you just move back to the belly. Yes for sure. You know what you need to do. Beautiful. Beautiful. Get it done.
for get it done for 14 dollars and 89 cents from Rob who says I like toes
yesterday today I like 69 I think that was the donation that got us to the 69
cents don't I said that out loud read it first before you know I just read it's
like anchorman 10 donation in from Jace 193 he says since preach is a clown and
only has clown stories Alex how did the fat boss guys start also since preach
Which one's Doggo Pictures? Here's Remington.
Oh! Right?
Damn! Just a victory.
It's just, it's just chalking them up.
So cute.
The dogs are just dominating this whole thing.
Cats shumbled. Full shumbled.
Oh my word. The dogs are coming out.
You know, they're going out full extent.
So cute. So cute.
They're the best.
Dogs are cute.
They're the best.
I must admit, I'm more of a dog guy.
But I know that you're a dog guy.
And if we're both just sitting here just saying,
cats are awful then I guess a bit too much of a balance. I don't think cats are awful I just don't
think we should exist anymore. And they should just be replaced by dogs. Oh man. What? You heard it
here first. Um, only has clown stories apparently. I don't know what am I telling my clowns or my
time in the circus my juggling career. Can you chuckle? No. We need to sort that out. You're
not glimmering honking skill. I'm just saying you're not much of a clown if you can't
That's right. I'm not much of a clown. Thank you very much
The best compliment I've accidentally paid all day
Um, I made a video for our guild
way back when in cataclysm and about how to do an upcoming boss and for some reason it got a bunch of views
Because it was just randomly on YouTube and I was like, huh? This is our faboside. Oh, there's just
So basically you start it all the way back then just in calculus and muckin around doing it for the games and
Kind of got out of control and here I am
We've got another hundred dollar donation damn you guys are going crazy from
Brent's clutch who says amazing cause and amazing team all round. Let's go echo and here's a picture of Levi I
Can't go to die. I can't do this anymore. This is
Who is the best at it?
Don't even pull it anymore.
I don't care about my pic.
Keep your pictures coming in.
We need to see them so, so generous as well.
Really, really do appreciate it.
We also got a 10 dollar donation in from Voxility.
I as a, who says preach, oh preach.
You hate those cats.
No hot chocolate for you.
Imagine that.
We haven't got any hot chocolate.
That is very true.
If your words don't start to sound real sweet,
Goosepert will come and take your seat.
You took Goosepert?
Here's a pic as a reference.
There we go.
Can you send me the picture of a stupid tree?
That is Goosepurt from Race.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There we go.
Yasmin's with the silly tree thing called Fred
or whatever it's called.
Fred the tree.
Fred the indoor tree.
Oh, man.
It's a lump thing, right?
Yeah, it's mostly.
It's a crazy lump.
I really do appreciate that thing.
Thank you so, so much.
As well as a 10 dollar donation in from Rackness.
What's up, Charlie?
He says, big love to all working on the race,
production, cast, and players.
here is my excited girl Lucy who's also cheering you all on oh I can and I can
confirm in person the best dog as well insane super hyper but wonderful
wonderful dog thank you very very cute oh oh they're moving get that they're
just what they're getting the blood moving again yeah once ten players are
jumping around that's when I start getting excited okay what's even more
I can't keep up. You guys are fantastic. Should I keep going?
I mean, they're not, but it can be... Yeah, try.
Okay, I'm going to speed round these a little bit.
Of course, we're literally helping kids. What are we saying? Yes.
Help the kids.
We've got a $10 donation in from Dresdas, again, who says,
Littlen and Goddog, much vicious old picture mic,
which you'd know if you ever visited.
Oh, damn.
Thank you very much, Dresdas. Very, very cute.
Oh, my word.
It's amazing if you introduce the kids properly to the dogs how protective they are and they look after them to the ends of the earth
We got one dollar donation in from dreed who actually sent the image in and this time saying fix it Chris with the image link
Can we get this one up from dreed if it's a good one?
wood up boom
putting the pressure on production
My word a little dapper doggy
Very cute very cute indeed. Oh god
We got a 25 dollar donation in from anonymous who says thanks for the great screen make sitting at work almost bearable
Great cause let's go echo and a link as well to an immature
Desperately trying to start these that's dude. Oh my word. That is a happy pup as well. Tom goes about 12 feet
We've got a five dollar donation in from Shad
He says let's go echo what a day to start my mini vacations and finally some proper pools where did you see the project this is all this is sent from
10 hours from that
Well done with that. Here's my happy giant excited about me being home from
Is either a TV on the end of like a key ring all that dog is 18 feet tall maybe both
What kind of perspective is that?
I honestly, this is giving me a bit of a headache.
I don't know what's going on.
Your dog is as big as the door.
That is very confusing.
We got a $15 donation in from Lianni,
who says, my puppy, Yabba.
Yabba do.
Desperately waiting for the pool,
doing a great job guys.
Good luck to Team Echo and a wonderful picture of,
oh my god.
That is my face waiting for Paul.
It really is.
Oh, so cute.
Can we put that side by side Raz with the raiders right now?
I'm listening to Margelline.
Just put it next to Kush.
We just resized it and put it next to Kush.
Same face, same face!
Absolutely not!
That was dumb.
So dumb.
You could put that over Kush and we would not be able to tell.
Oh, where's Perfecto?
He's bound to be in the same boat.
Oh, man.
Oh
We're listening to Roger
That's course guys is that getting ready for school listening to Roger Brown is so important. He's caught with a quality strategy
That is worth 40 minutes of discussion. Oh, man
We got a $10 donation in from anonymous. He says I've had I have had three drama time stories for the most recent
They were my guild died in a day muted and one Mike simply titled the story so you go
Thank you very much anonymous got a $10 donation in from exit. Oh
Exit you oh, I can't agree that name help money. He's not out now Alex's run out all exos. Thank you
I knew it was a word. I just couldn't read it dogs are the best cats are useless
Yes, and I'll link you
Oh, the magnificence.
That is zero.
What a gentleman.
My word, he's even got his own little name above his house.
Yeah.
Damn.
Zero.
Zero.
Destroyer of worlds.
10 big ones.
Good luck, Echo.
Here's my cat.
I know you don't want to see it,
but the cuts are, of course, superior.
This is Lily the cat.
Thank you, Matty.
Thank you so much for cheering us up,
but then ruining our day with your cat picture.
That's a cat in a bag.
Kind of cute.
We're trying to make the kids feel better more dogs
There's a point that you do you get emotional support cats I've had emotional support dogs
Alex you know the answer to that question. Yes, I you get emotional support sharks. I don't think you might have done sure they're very godly
The potty thank you for the ten big ones towards the children dogs and cats of both cute either way with double whammy
But it's not an image a link. Are we coming up do that one now?
generally speaking I think if it's not an image link we are scooting by for now
feel free to re-send it in if you're waiting for the poll so are we yes they're
going through the whole fight checking recurs blah blah blah the markers and
all that kind of things they will definitely pull sometime before the
race finishes and then we can go they're not wasting time they can
Oh
Wonderful picture as well
Damn you've got my on that one
And all those with a five it's was helping them really sick kids out
Thank you. Let's go echo it is a little picture of my dog and my cut in
Unified pictures
There we go. Oh that cat looks like it's just prayed played a prank on the dog
Represents like warriors and moonkins in a single
Warriors just staring blankly into space as the moonkins complain and complain
This is wow summarized right here wonderful wonderful very cute indeed. Thank you so much
$5 for Miss Cass. Thank you for the content and raising money for a great cause. There's
a little picky of my doggy when we were on our recent vacation. The dog domination is
honestly inspiring. Best day at the beach I'm sure. Oh, make sure you guys send me
pictures of your cats out on vacation. Oh wait, nobody does that. This cat's a
rubbish. Thank you, pup though. Thank you so, so much. And you guys are doing incredible,
nearly seven and a half thousand dollars you guys have been going to raise out to
crash through that this is unreal I mean realistically at this point guys echo
pulling hurts sick children
oh no really dark thought I know this is all a big bamboozle if Echo actually do
any mythic polls the children suffer oh no for sake of fox with $10 towards our
good cars here I've been watching the race for a first few years love the event
the cast of the donation goes but this anti-cap propaganda has led to this
donation here's Agatha much love let's pull oh those eyes yeah it looks so evil
right now the wonderful you get lost in those that's crazy that's what they're
supposed to do the soul-sucking night all that to mesmerize you into the
Yeah, like Hypno told the cat. Hypno told the Hypno cat.
Uh, Lady Lesh, uh, thank you so much for the five dollars. Here's my cat Destroyer.
Oh, his name is Destroyer. Oh, here is my cat. Comet. Destroyer.
Okay, can I? I like that. Nice try. That is like every feral druid.
Here I am, Destroyer of Worlds. This is just a game though, Giddy.
It's the return of Tanya! Rock and roll Tanya! $5 for Tanya! It's Bailey again! But with a proper link as requested. He's majestic, he is love. Probably replace Mike with Medic.
Okay Mage on the Gora now. They appreciate cats a lot more than this clown. You're doing a really good job Alex and Jesse.
Well, let's skip past your message. Oh, wow! Okay, that is a majestic gentleman.
Where? Oh, Skype. Yeah, looks good.
No, can you not see the chest fluff? Just a little floofa.
I see a star, some worms.
Oh, Revez, you mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw Revez there.
I'm believable.
Yeah.
You hear that, Tanya?
Yeah.
Thanks for the donation, by the way, Tanya.
Let's go to the great cause.
Oh, thank God!
Attitude and the donations.
Bring the answer.
That's fine.
With just a straight-up link and just cash
for the release of kits, thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
Oh, my word.
Hell yeah, right?
That is a dog that I would trust.
Tanya, look at the screen.
That is that I would trust that dog.
I feel that that dog is more mature than I am.
I feel that if I was lost in a city, that dog is better than me and my phone.
So, yeah, exactly.
For faith, I agree.
Yeah, I would ask him for help.
Yeah, for sure.
For you.
Very fair.
Very fair.
It kind of looks like what was the name of that line that died in that movie?
Jesus, my arm.
What the Lion King was his name.
Yeah, that one.
Mufasa.
Mufasa.
It's got like a Mufasa vibe, right?
Is it move faster than the evil one?
I didn't watch Disney's.
Whoa, you're thinking of Scar.
Scar, right.
Yeah, that was played by the guy.
No Dune, no Lion King.
What did you watch?
I haven't seen Star Wars either.
What the hell?
I like Big with Tom Hanks.
I've watched Matilda.
I haven't seen Big, no.
That's a lie.
Everybody's seen Big.
I don't know what Big is.
What is Big?
It's like Tom Hanks gets Big.
The clue's in the name.
He just gets like, swole.
He starts like, start small.
You start small and gets what?
to normal size or big adult size as a kid and becomes an adult that sounds like
quite a shit movie like it's a 20 year long movie you don't know this oh no
it looks like tracking from the day's bar but Tom Hanks yes so they happen to
think so he becomes Tom Hanks they just yoloed it just happened to the
proc pretty well on that one the good news is that in the past 40 minutes the
the raid has largely moved from the warm section to the good
learning section, a movement of about 15 yards, which
presages, you know, that's probably a good sign for
Are we logging through to the replay? Can we get a time lapse
of the last hour per minute?
They're in the right area now so I think they're about to pull
so I'm going for it, dude.
Go on speedrun it. So, Razzi, you with me? Talk to me,
Goose. That's through it, dude.
You just said, oh no. Like a loss. Thank you for the
five dollars. Monty is surprised by the lack of
you wish to address the balance Congrats. Love the name Monty.
Excellent dog name. Indeed. Shad Raza. I give it a $10. Hello guys.
As usual, I feel instantaneously entertained. I love watching you deal with your shenanigans.
Max with a race greetings from me and my candle queen Warlock. Oh, oh, damn.
You look waxy. That does that. That's that seems like a lot of maintenance.
Yeah, it does a lot of a lot of wax
Obviously as soon as they pull we're going and if we've missed anybody we will get to you don't worry. Yes
But let's go on basheel. Thank you so much again
I believe for the twenty five dollars to make up for the cake that we made you eat
Here's a picture of our doggo for Mike. Oh
Holy worth it. We're about made my key. I see a cake as well, but a shake half the cake and finish it this
$5 no money, but I want to flex my mug
I'm confused
Don't worry, Jason. I give it a $5 as well. That's the mug Alex. Can you please sing smell my feet?
Smell my stinky
Slowly a preach you understand also here is Remy again as big sister Lexi as the picture of the transmog and also know
Oh, okay. No, I'm sorry. I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna buy into the feet
Look at those pops so very cute. They have their own pillows
Yeah, that's what you see my pillows and my dog's pillows. Yeah, just let you know they win
Yo Han, thank you for the $10. Just want to post a photo of my brother's dog. The donation is a bonus.
No, no, no. It's for the kids, guys. It's for the kids.
What does the rate my dog?
Well, you know, I've turned into that.
So far, every dog has been turned out of 10.
Yes. I haven't seen a grim dog yet.
They've all been absolutely phenomenal.
Thank you very much, Yo Han. Did we get that picture as?
No, it wasn't any of the joint.
Oh, no. So I've got a picture.
Oh, yay!
Oh my word
Okay, our names has the best animals that actually so in all the pet pictures have been adorable. Thank you so much for sending
Pets I've got I say I've got a lot more to say about pets. It's still incoherent, but I feel that everyone gets the
Flow bit more ten dollars as well. This is oh my god. You guys nearly eight thousand dollars
Keep it going, bitches.
Like, can we hit $8,000 before Echo do a poll?
It's like the most insane goal ever is that we started,
I think, six something.
Yeah, we've got a 2,000.
We've got over $2,500.
Jesus Christ.
Damn.
Yeah, we're gonna.
Popplex.
Like, $7.
I always enjoy the Echo streams during my work day.
Ah, have a good day at work.
dog peep also enjoyed that's a lovely name for dog peepers oh my god those eyes oh and the piggy
nose ball oh peep they uh we need to keep it they are eating a food buff which means they must
pull it in the next we're going 60 minutes the game of food buff we're going we're going
very quick uh lily uh massive amount of people working to bring us yet another amazing race
especially behind the scenes. I have to agree with Mike however dogs rule how about we dual wheeled
puppers. Oh, that's how it works. They're moving into a position where you've got to go. Oh, those dogs!
They're so cute! Nio, thank you. Keep them going. Keep them going. The Echo cast have been following the
race for the first few years now and I've always loved watching your cast since Preach doesn't
like cats. I'll send you a picture of my cat to annoy him for you and your little treat as well.
Oh
That is a very cute cat come on now five dollars what my dog hears people talking about cats
I don't know what this is gonna be, but it's probably gonna be bad. Oh dear
We'll find out obviously they have a food buff now. They're ready to go. They're fully buff. They've just refreshed both
From production, please pull
for the kids bros want that $180 away oh delicious oh my word just a rain with
the $5 go go echo always raising money for a good cause capture them out my
12 week-old Labrador puppy Eddie realized that echo still had not pulled
the last box that dog looks like it's on the best walk in its life
boys things wonderful and the 12 but I gotta see the 12 a week how I'm sad
the dogs are going by so fast. Oh my God! $30 away! Oh! What a good girl! What a good girl!
I can't believe this is happening before. What? Ready checks coming in soon, guys. Let the pig
and the eggs go! Pig and the eggs go! I love how we're shoutcasting the bar going out.
We're almost there! Nothing! Thank you for the $3. Hey guys, it's me again. Here is our baby
Frenchy Melvin a hashtag got me a dough. Let's have a look see no they forgot to put a link in it
We'll see him for cash
Hey guys me again. Here's my
The image of it is here. I don't know what World of Warcraft is and I don't care but look at my dog
We beat it
waiting for a pull anyway now.
I'm real. God bless Echo.
Their lack of ability to pull a boss.
And God bless all of you, folks.
It's all good fun and games, but you guys are really making a huge difference to so many children.
So thank you so, so much.
And thank you for sending the dog photos.
And it's a ready check. You guys just did it.
Yes.
Unbelievable.
Elroy, last one. It's happening.
No Rasmus. No waiting.
We'll get one last one.
The other one is the cats and dogs, but my two boys are the absolute best with a couple of pitches there for an hour for the ten dollars and I just ultimately want to shout...
Okay, producer is telling me they actually got this to you.
Pulled on her!
Yes.
We're pulling the boss, don't worry we will get to your pitches in a few times.
We're marking all of them as we go along. Snacks in the kitchen by the way if you happen to be here in the venue and you want to go get some snacks or some good to know and we are pulling!
We're pulling us!
Well done!
Come on Instant Wipe.
here we go. So having a little bit of a look, let's have a little bit of a walkthrough as we go. The
boss is going to be dragged into this area that has slightly more parasites. So when she heads on
over to the canister, she's going to be numbing away. Every single parasite group in the entire
raid now is mutated. This means they have 50% more health. They will be moving at 10%
increased movement speed, like as ever going faster and faster. You can see this week
a little map look how janky it
looks. This is a Roger special
for sure. Um as we have got uh
the first set of debuffs
cushion, unfortunately going
down, taking one of the
swirly to the face, but you're
going to see the eggs getting
broken out here and then the
players have to deal with all
of them. Let's just see how
the damage meter looks. My
word, losing a healer there is
going to be really, really
rough. Yeah, it's a good
way to control them that was
really hoping to see the
first pack annihilated but I
what we're going to see now
damage profiles. They're going to make sure and it's not a
difficult discussion is dead. Uh to make sure the damage
profile, they do not need to overkill these parasites. They
need to make sure they kill every pack consistently and
smoothly. You can see the parasites going a little out
of control. Yeah. So it's this is going to be a bit of
damage profile checking now to make sure they have this
meat grinder spec, but it's sending 8 million DPS into ads
that need 6 million DPS to kill. It's and then the next
put the next spawn has like 4 million. That's not going to
It needs without wasting cooldowns, of course, so they're gonna be damaged profiler now nice damage on the boss outside of lost
Lost actually the actual boss damage just considering we've only done one egg is rock solid
was it the
webs that killed Kush though, I think it was the
Swirlies as the boss is eating out of the container doing the ingest black blood cast
sending out the yeah, I think they might be as fast
the
Lots of swellies come out. I think it's can be quite difficult to see in Mali so it might just be that we unfortunately
Didn't weren't able to see the swellies, but I'm sure
Jesse over on the Magtral analysis desk will be able to confirm or deny that for us once the longs have been updated
What is is that way in all fairness? I'm I'm proud of that
We were talking about in the kitchen is like the wreck Pally player is really not a bad idea
Oh, yeah, um because they just love this environment if they can get those cleaves going they could put out
Absurd amounts of burst damage like it's really wacky
It'll actually look a little reminiscent to Queen Ishara
Which is where they sent in the narco play
Onto the ads and narco would be like not even on the damage meter and then number one by like 25% for sure matter of seconds
So we will be seeing that so a little whoopsies at the beginning there then now to going to take
20 to 25 minutes this is like hopefully it's a recent yeah
Did you manage to find him because of that?
Yeah, so Swirlie's killed both Kush and Zatzi in the first 40 seconds.
Oh.
This is indeed, you know, you need reps, you need practice.
Did he kill him through cheat death?
Did he hit that hard?
He took two.
Oh.
One proc.
Cheat.
He killed him.
Oh dear.
That was a rogue play for sure.
Could he not do that?
Thank you.
And then subsequent deaths were largely attributable to mismanagement of the tankty buff, of
course.
Lower your health after receiving that tankty buff.
The more damage the red takes, you need to get the tanks topped for that vile
Elk and Coxley, excellent stuff.
Yeah, absolutely makes sense.
Funny, the healing comp just,
it feels like just jabbing in as many
of Oaks as you can into the healing comp right now.
Yeah, and Oaks, I mean, their Wing Buffet is also knocking.
They have so much good utility here,
rewinds when things go wrong,
you know, that D.V.O. is gonna come out,
like their tool kit for this fight is actually exceptional.
If they need to get into a weird position for a knock,
hover, juke over there, grab somebody
might be out of place, you might not be able to get to their marker quickly. There's so
many ways an evoker can help you. They just do so much HPS as well. And yeah, they're
just pumping. Yeah. Right. It's not just it all is just working right into their favor.
You had all these predictions about the priest combo, the rest of shamans, all this stuff.
But ultimately it's looking a bit rather gethish where suddenly the rise of the evokers
is back again, G. Yeah, absolutely. I can also update you on item level. Oh, yes.
Board to see that they have an average item level of 619.4
Ranging from a peak of five people at 622 and then a low of 614 on you can guess it
Excluding him the average would be almost exactly 620 damn
There we go. Good job, Karex. It looks like the median item of the factor is 620. There we go.
So in a pretty strong position. Yeah. Very, very good. They are doing phenomenally well.
They're right where they need to be. Gear is there. There is barely anything to get out of this
week at this point. I'm not sure who hasn't sent yet fully. I mean, I kind of feel like
they probably all have at this point, but knowing Echo, there's definitely some suffering back.
They're always holding something. Yeah, it might be the characters. They're not even sure are gonna be you know
Like perfect. So is he gonna use that big again? Maybe probably not ideally, but you'd see can we go to Thomas POV for the next pull
Let's see. Oh, I thought a pump in
Who's that next to him? Just wait. It's just wait. Yeah, so a little look see we're definitely gonna want to watch the vile concoctions on the tank
That tank debuff they're doing significantly more damage than was expected even well managed 50 million damage on the raid and a poorly managed one where
the tank was at half health for it popping was 65 million.
So the way that debuff works it goes on the tank, the less health they have the more damage
everyone takes with it expires so you want to get them top because it's a serious big
hit.
Is there a shot of debuff on Mithic?
I'm not sure.
It's relatively lengthy on Heroic you have time, it probably ticks a lot, yeah so you
can top the tank and then it ticks really heavily to get them back.
I mean the whole purpose of that debuff is to make sure the tank is not at full
health like it really tries so the healers have to work their balls off to it's little 30 seconds long
still 30 seconds long yeah so it's almost something that like heals forget about
then what the initial application the thing that eventually explodes is 30 seconds long well no
that no that's the full debuff duration during which i think they can't retank right okay but
the bomb debuff is in like when it actually explodes so we know the duration of that
let me find that uh thank you but eight seconds yeah eight seconds so it's quite lengthy but it
ticks for how much again I'm not sure what is on mythic the ticks on the tank yeah
that was the issue we we saw is a lot of people were topping the tank up like
takes like half your HP that's obviously gonna vary by tank yep three
different tank specs and they'll take varying amounts of magic damage and
mitigate in different ways but it was ticking on let's see nice means for
or 290k every second.
That's 290k, that's manageable.
That's mitigated.
He had another one.
Yeah, another one failed to mitigate.
But this one's about to explode now.
So it's not so bad if you can get them fully topped up.
Everyone going down, what, maybe about 20% health there.
So as long as it's something that you keep an eye on,
they're not too bad.
But a lot of healing reductions and absorptions,
excuse me, coming out from this boss
as well as a bunch of damage.
Lots and lots of great damage here.
Now going incredibly low, unfortunately getting clipped by one of the Swirlies Barlux.
This boss also does ever increasing damage each time she makes her way and eats one of these canisters.
Her passive ticking rate damage gets even more spiteful.
But you can see players clearing out the first set of eggs.
There we go. Four sets all underneath the boss.
And boom! Time to do some damage.
There's a deep breath coming in as well.
That was a deep breath!
My word! That's so much to do!
So much you can see narco going absolutely crazy their wall life one of our new players doing an incredible amount
Unfortunately, bellow going down not looking too solid there. Hopefully we do have a battle res for the don't because Revers went down on the
A we grip the moment he started bladestorming
Typical war is stuff, you know, I just want to go
Yeah, one of the issues the other an instance was ridiculously heavy melee comp is that if they don't kill all of them
And the investors go off and the fix is up in the fix anything melee immediately
Yep, so that's something they're gonna have to be very wary of is if they don't manage to stop all of the parasites infesting
Each time that they're probably gonna hit a melee immediately look with narcos managing to do though. He's being narco
Yeah, top of the DPS meter the full slamming alongside wall life there
Oh the rage is gonna get hit pretty hard though mechanics being quite high. Yeah quite low excuse me
Unfortunately that explosion with only two healers available leading to the death of the rest of the group, they also did miss an egg, yes, yeah
So there is going to be a little bit of some
Teething
Interesting damage, I mean this is all damage staggering you can see how they're managing the cooldowns
It's not like all the DK's are doing different things
That they're making sure they have enough for each one and now obviously you see Narko right now doing 3 mil in comparison
So maybe like perfecto or now who's like closest to 1.8
That isn't necessarily just because narco is crazy good, which he is obviously
But it's probably more likely that he's he's had his cooldown to sign at a point where it's going to be doing the most damage
I imagine it will be seen perfect or now catching up in a little bit
I would guess the staga their reapers mark a little bit. So maybe two of them are using in per pack
What is a reapers month?
It's the new hero talents that most of the frosty guys are playing so you apply it and then stacks up and then
When it reaches around stacks, it's like spreads and does a ton of damage. Oh, it's typically in the morning damage source now
nice yeah it's like it's a relatively longish cool down or you can change it's
there you can change it's cool down around and do various things with it in your
little hero talent tree very cool yeah I knew not of anything to do with DK's
this time around all I know is that DK's go Berm and do big damn yeah so yeah
it was like Fana held back a little bit and then he popped off on pack number
two and it looks like Reves like you just said that Jesse was supposed to
be the warrior pack looks like that's how the stagger is like warrior pack
here, double DK's, fatter relatively consistently. Koshai, I assume, is pure single target here.
About 60% in single target with some AoE on the blood parasites through caustic's fatter.
Yeah, so that's the, is that the better bomb on the floor?
I'm not entirely too sure.
Yeah, he's fighting a Sass, so he will be doing poison.
Yeah, I don't know anything about Rogue, but I can read a tooltip for you.
Using mid lane on a target afflicted by your rupture and deadly poison, apply caustic's
Spatter which causes 45% of poison damage, splash onto nearby targets.
Oh, okay. So it sounds like a free cleavability.
Yeah.
All four of the death knights are blasting, only two of them use the Reaper's mark on that pack,
and we're getting huge value from Breathless Indigosa.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yes. That is exactly what they want out of that.
And min-maxing your breath is going to be some of this.
It's going to be very important for this fight being able to keep it up for as long as possible.
Don't really need to do that anymore.
Don't you? I thought you had to get between doing like a 30 and a 50 second breath.
That's so a thing
Yeah, I mean there's a little bit
It's nowhere near like what used to be when you sat there perma like you breathed the entire fight
Oh, I have melee range for a second cool. I might as well just half stone. Yeah
Oh, there's a lot of times you're gonna be dragged out melee range as well
Very likely there on any given egg pack that one of the DK's is gonna be selected for it
So they have it's good that they need to they know they know that that's gonna happen
They'll have to be prepared with their damage for it. You can see it going for another pull now, which I'm very glad for hopefully
They need this needs reps. Yes over and over again. This needs a lot of reps. Oh
Well life that food. Well, you know, he does have a food buff
It's just not tracked properly for him. Unfortunately with whatever we go to choosing before seeing the value of the frost death
Knights as all of the frost death Knights are in the top five both for boss damage and
and prepare a site image, but it's actually kind of worked.
And they never stopped.
They can just keep cleaning.
And considering we're buffing the parasites
from the very, very beginning of the encounter,
making it so that we're able to deal with any parasite pack
very efficiently is going to be a point of high value
for Echo here.
Are you going to see something really disgusting
happen in a second?
I really am.
I'm glad I'm watching Warlife.
I'm watching Warlife educate this boss.
Warlife, one of our new members here at Echo
has been performing out of his mine.
Apparently a warrior extraordinaire. You can see the weak or a telling him where to go. He needs to go to the
Blue square and to break them out. But here we go. He comes the blade
At the top with
Damage in it's a narco part of this as well. You can see go out
Crazy man up there to get it back in nice for your piece crazy crazy
They're not quite killing them in time so they need a little bit more impact from the one and some of them are actually
Festing which is something we really want to avoid of obviously one parasite tenses to on the right difficulty and above
So you do want to avoid that but the Malia certainly not getting involved as they're running over to the next set of ads
Wherever the boss goes is where the Malay goes
That's the point of this meat grinder setup that they've got going on here second of it
bit set in second set of eggs there we go coming in let's see if they're able to survive it
yeah they need to get them in lock them down and this will be on to the other death knights now
so we should see the other dks now rise uh if they've set their stuff up correctly because he now
is coming up there uh in order to uh put out their damage it's not doing quite a lot though
it's still like 80 percent this is so this this is what needs to alter in the next few pulls
is uh where you know we need that burst so they're losing it here
Hello, how do we core that said roar that shit for the impressive role?
That is one thing yes impressive roles gonna be incredibly useful here having an aoe stun last twice the duration
I'm assuming that's still how impressive all works. It used to increase CC by a hundred percent
Maybe that's been no if they don't know but assuming that's still the case
Incredibly powerful bit of kit when you are see seeing this many ads as you can see the last third set of eggs the last four this particular
particular, um, section of the room we're coming in now. All of those ads getting grouped
up underneath the boss and here comes the damage. AoE a bound doing tons underneath the
boss.
They're clear.
Gotta make sure we keep those kicks going though.
Oh, damn.
They still need to get the rest of these infest under control. They're kind of, um,
they're relying on a lot of personal play here to kite them. They're not panicking
about the people giving the infest. They're like, you just make sure you, you
know, they'll be passively cleave with this meat grinder build. Run them through
the boss.
Well, that worm does need to die though.
The worms at the moment aren't all mutated,
but as that worm is in the goo,
it has got 50% increase health
and 100% increase cast time.
So it is in its mutated form right now,
because it is in the goo.
Now they're gonna really struggle to get to it,
and are like three-ranked.
Yes, they're gonna do their best.
You can see the cast actually went through there.
That's gonna be really bad
as we're going through this ingest here.
It's gonna be pretty rough.
Yeah, they live.
They live, they're going into the next one.
So first area complete, 70% on the boss.
Bloodlust has been used though, that's probably going to change later on, so I'm going to start
moving there, Bloodlust around, some various really nasty overlaps that come a bit later.
Looks like we lost a few players there, I always hate these raid frames.
What, the focus charm is down there?
Yeah.
End mini as well.
I wonder if they're going to be sending the anchor, I'm not entirely too sure.
I doubt it though, because I think we might be coming towards the end of this pull with
this many players down, it's unlikely that we're going to be able to keep control
of these ads as we are indeed heading off towards the spider area having the same thinking
and same idea behind the order of these ads as liquid did towards the end of their night.
At least that's what we're going for right this moment. It's nice to be able to get
through the first sector, not as clean as they would like. You can see if the cars
going through there. Pool number three for what it's a proper pool. They've managed
to set themselves as in second place in the world.
Yeah, a little bit of a replay here. If he's all coming in, or if he's wishing, I think he's going to be shitting.
Oh, you can see that, not all the parasites, unfortunately, getting CC'd underneath the boss.
I mean, actually getting towards, that's alright, I wasn't sure what we were looking at at the beginning here.
You can see all of the adds getting knocked in, that pack towards Star just wasn't sorted out at all,
and then they weren't properly funneled underneath the boss, making it difficult to get them underneath,
and it went horribly wrong, so that's something they need to improve for.
It's so much damage needed.
One thing I'm noticing, obviously they're not mutating the giant spiders yet, but the giant spiders are just being melted.
Also, Echo not second in the world. Ethical is.
Shout out. Hey!
You got this boss lower than Echo have. Good job, Ethical. That's really nice.
I like Ethical. Ethical is a guild that I used to use.
Is that item level accurate? 612? It might be.
At least the last time I was looking into that guild which was you know fairness towards the around the shadow lands era
So you see going all of the CD timings and everything from their will craft logs
They were only like a three four-day guild. So make sense. They'll be at 612
But it's cool that when they got through the first four that like well, what else are we gonna do on our eight days?
It's what keep going. Yeah, I always love that call honestly. It's always nice to see them on that
Which they've been consistently on the charts for years. That's there that two guilds
I always keep a very close eye on places to do things very very well. They also use
Healing comps that aren't necessarily always matter. They just play the comps that they want to do well in you know
They just play with their characters and get up where it feels like at least
Like using miss weaver at a time when miss weaver wasn't that crazy that week aura. It's a cute map
It does look like something that I would have drawn in paint
Like
It's classic echo right that the painting that happened on the end doing it feels like an overcook legit
Well, it does help a little bit. You can see when when you get a mark
It shows you exactly where you're going so you don't have to look around the room and see which one it is and it's oriented
The right way, so I see why they did it. It's classic echo. This is a Roger Wequir, right?
He designed this and it's something they've done before an Anduin and it worked for them
Although it turned out to not be necessary on that fight at all and like Mike is saying probably not necessary here either
But I think it can help
Orientate you when you're in the midst of a bunch of ads and you're not sure where the markets
You're supposed to go to this says that away
I can I can kind of understand that I think a week or like that is fine
If it doesn't take up raid prog time in order to get working
I think as soon as it starts eating into your progression time like oh guys
We need to get the week or a working you know sat there for like an hour for this mini map that in theory
It's just there as a small helper rather than a hard and faster signer
For me is going to be a bit of a waste personally
It's one of those things that I like I'm you know accounts of great boxes like this some really
small swirly's that kill you on this, like as we saw in pole number one, that if
you can't see them that's way more of a concern than whether you can see raid
markers to where the the actual eggs are, certainly because they're going to be here
quite a few poles you get the feeling for it, but yeah you know if it helps it
helps, I'm sure I mean there's some of these recours that the guys have that
like I just turned it off like it wasn't useful for me, which is fine, I
don't think I'm shouting and saying dude I can see the raid marker, I'm fine.
Yep, interestingly they have nice memes in canyx largely swapping back and
for thinking the boss with mirrors largely taking the spiders by himself.
And he's got a statue as well.
I assume for when it gets a little spicy and it's not happening yet.
But if you have a guns of like, you know, serious, he's using the statue.
It's going out. It's a great cool.
I still haven't seen a really good control of the parasites yet,
which I guess part of the strategy here is that they will be dead before
they need serious, you know, CC chains on them,
like we had with the fracads for example where we had to do that incredibly complex series
of knocks and stuns and all that kind of stuff in the infernal phase. So we know they're
capable of doing it but I think they're hoping that they can just smash it in the face before
that becomes an issue.
And they're rotating through with three evokers, one oppressive roar per pack, increasing
the duration of the next CC by 50% to try to control them for even longer but that
makes it very crucial that they get everything stacked up as best as possible.
You're talking about the potential of maybe Vantus being used.
Doesn't look like it.
Just bothered it.
Yeah, I just saw the number go down in the back.
Yeah, no, I saw that.
That's fair.
That would scare me as well.
I was looking at like, why?
Who's taking Vantus right now?
And why?
We're not there yet, guys.
And you guys know that.
Well, Jesse.
There are three.
What, Vantus runes?
Yeah.
Well, there are three Vantus rune buffs.
But those might be because they did Herox Splits
or something.
But there are three Vantus rune buffs.
I can't say that they're four of this boss,
but there are three Vantus runes up.
Oh, I saw.
Okay, maybe the ready-check add-on, I know that some of them aren't all tracking some of the new buffs, so that might be why I'm getting a little bit baited there.
In the logs, I have three Ventus Rune buffs active on that pool.
Fair enough. Fair enough.
Surely there are answer records.
I mean, it's entirely possible. It's like, we're definitely not using this character for anything else.
This is like, we geared it for this fight, and that's it.
Maybe close-up of the Karrion worm there was rather gross on this add-on.
I would prefer a crab over a worm like that worm to worse than spiders for me. Oh, yeah
Not like an earth worm fair enough. You do your business important business. I'm sure
but just like
Little gross like grubs and whatnot. Yeah
Losing my mind I'm trying to get you to start a little farm
We're pulling at 15!
Overly will be able to farm this boss by the end of the night.
Pool number 4, like proper pool number 4, but I guess overall pool number 12 that we have on the Warcraft Logs leaderboard.
Hoping to get a little bit further as we were able to get through the first sector last time.
Let's see if we can get to the second one a little bit cleaner, hopefully with a little bit better CC.
No blood loss hopefully being needed to be used either, but I imagine it was a progress loss as everything went a little bit sideways.
Seems to be lost in the first adds because they're not even popping cooldowns on the ball here. They're just holding them
To to wait to use them on the the parasites to make sure that they've not lost at a spooky time
Then they just lost it for the beams like just to do that
They just lost it when the ex pots. Okay
So that's probably most likely when they're going to be less thing for their kills
So maybe they're going for that vibe already to check the damage
If I was progging this fight part of me would be like
I know we'll hold lust for you know when when we accidentally have an ad go off or
Yeah, maybe the CC goes a little bit wrong bloodlust can always help you in that sort of fashion
Yeah, no lost this time no loss at the moment
So maybe going for that progress lost in said place coming incredibly low as those ads are getting grouped up. No kick on a down
Yeah, let's be miss first kick on cross
Who was it? Who was it sort your week or out?
Unfortunately, they might they were just um
Mucking around with plater so that might have yeah, maybe change
Now this is where they micro manage the fight. So
So, uh, pool number four, dead pool, we don't like it, we don't like this pool, this is not
the kill guys, I'm sorry to bring that knowledge to you.
That's some puppies.
Oh, that would be nice.
It is worth noting, um, the engines demon hunter might as well be a DPS, I don't know
if you've noticed, but he is top 10 damage overall.
Damn.
I don't know anything about demon hunter, but uh, sigil of flame and demon surge
are kind of curious.
Citula Flame is there, you know, this bungalow fire circle on the ground.
Demon Surge though, I don't even know what Demon Surge is.
I'm more curious as to how long they're getting the other DKs to hold their cooldowns.
Is Mini holding until like third wave?
Could be, could be, it's just Reaper's Mark could be the one.
Yeah, I think, you know, it's silly to have everyone send all of their things.
When you look at this comp, the amount of damage that it will do is incredible.
You want to offset it, because once it's offset, ideally you can just press on cooldown, right?
You want to have this constant supply of incredibly high burst AoE damage as soon as those adds
pop out just so you can get rid of them as soon as possible.
Yeah, Mini's holding the longest development.
Yeah, I would have thought so.
Might be holding for what was otherwise the weakest set.
On the packet 140, Mini's doing 10 million compared to 4 million from the other death
knights that on the first patch were doing their burst.
Yeah, so they're just figuring the damage out.
And they're going to continue to tinker with that.
There's a huge amount of damage balancing going on here between the spiders, the worms, parasites,
and the boss.
And cooldowns are being assigned, you know, you're on this mob with those cooldowns, and
now you're on this pack with those cooldowns, so it's going to be a lot of damage tinkering.
I'm not laughing at you, by the way, what you're saying is very intelligent, but I
just occasionally just get reminded of how you look.
I'm so sorry.
I don't even remember it.
I did that when I was in like some costume and looked ridiculous, and then I was
I'm talking very seriously.
I did the sandwich races, honey, be lovely,
where we were having a serious conversation
and interview with the players.
And by the end of it, I completely forgotten
I was wearing a dress.
I was like, man.
So how do you feel about the preparation you put into this
race?
Oh, that is funny.
Yeah, it was one of those.
Yeah, let's follow Mini here.
I wonder if they've gone all out with a little week
or saying, you're cool.
Down's next.
Rupa's Mark is the one next to Salt Rupa.
You see it's like a little blue with red eyes.
There's a lot of blue where where oh it's the second one in from the left on the first row at the top
That's quick
Popping on the bar so it'll be back through wave three so that's it does a lot of a we right not wanting it for a we
She's getting on cooldown so you can use it again later make sense the blaze you hold breath
Well, the players will be told when they are expected to have their births and it's up to them how they're going to lead up to that
I'm sure many obviously a very very experienced death knight
knowing exactly how he will min-max his class obviously known for also doing a
little bit of enhancement shaman but uh with uh jackob and clix doing a lot of
work on that this time around instead so here we go first set of eggs are gonna
be broken out a hell of a lot of ads let's see if they're able to get it
under control miss kick last time hopefully we can sort that out
breathe oh no they missed some of the parasites on the grip which is
somewhere it needs fixing. Is that ad pack on green supposed to have broken out as well?
Yes. Mist eggs. Yeah, mist some chocolates. So that's already going to be a wipe. I wonder if
they're going to continue to keep going anyway, because they will be able to do the second set
of... You can do if you can practice a second set right now. Kind of. It's not the set you're
going to be doing. Like that's what I found with this is when you have to repair the damage.
They're not going to try to repair it. They're going to ignore this egg and go practice
the second set of breaks and then die. Yes! That was clean though, that was really clean,
even though it was attackless. I mean it was less than they needed to kill, but they cleanly did less
than they needed to do. It turns out that when you spawn less adds way easier.
It's not breaking the eggs. Can't we just stack up, use one cooldown?
One of these parasites is just not inside. Parasites near the pool so struggle to get in
a little bit. Well it is only a 15 yard range for that vengeance grip it's very small I think it's
specific to that chain yeah it's not great earlier the clean one they had they used typhoons and
things like that to get them within that 15 yard range so a high degree of coordination required in
order to make that work and the evokas have a wing for every single pack it's got a 55 second
pull that matches perfectly the leg brakes so they can do it every single time there's
There's unfortunately the ads that were supposed to be broken out at the very start of the fight, now coming out then.
Double mutated.
Not only are they mutated, but yes, the incredible dot on the radar.
I think it hits for 2 million every 2 seconds, over 30 seconds.
So that thing is not chill, and that's per stack.
And most of the time, these egglosses are in sets of 2, so you're going to be going for 2 stacks most of the time.
So unfortunately, one of the egg breaks going a little bit pear shaped there does happen.
It's very important on this to you do still get the same purple circle around you
But it does take now two of you to break the the eggs and you have to make sure your circle then diagrams over both of them
Yeah, so you want to be getting like into the butt cheeks
Of the eggs if you see I mean that makes sense, right? You're getting it to the cleft
I wasn't expecting it to make sense, but unfortunately Mike is right get your debuffs over the butt cheeks of the eggs
Yeah, you want to be on the cleft not on the on the
Outer edges because that's not gonna line up nicely. So very true taking Zazia as an average. He survived
Well, he took three ticks dying to the third tick taking an average of 1.6 million every second from it
Dad that is that was through some you're not mucking around with that. You're dead. Yes. I should say mitigation
If they just move into cardinally, yeah, they try fine. Yeah, they try to go into their light parties
Um, I think if they do some earth shaker positions
This will be good though for everybody to get self I'm not surprised by this. I don't think anybody should be
We said all the way to leaving it's just they're not gonna walk in and smash this the pieces
It needs a lot of learning
Yeah, obviously I got the complete wrong end of the stick of how difficult this boss was when we were kind of guessing
Taking our taking our guesses. I was obviously being a little
a white and puller, but this boss looks like it's really got some teeth, it's going to
cause some issues for these guilds and every guild that's coming in towards it.
Hopefully Echo, they're in a position right now though, that they can really start catching
up towards Liquid, getting into a very similar position.
So fingers crossed that their pulls, they keep high consistency, or start to develop
that high consistency throughout these phases.
There's nothing worse than having a sector fixed and you know exactly what you're
doing with it. You're working on sector 2 and then you just struggle with sector 1 for like
half an hour for no reason, just people trolling. We're really hoping to avoid that.
They have got the volatile concoction under a lot more control now. No more giant spikes. They have
about an average of 1.53 million per character per hit across the entire two minutes they've been
playing, which is much better than the first pull where they had one that hit for almost nothing
and another hit for all their health. Getting that sorted out is probably is the big
role of both Kha'Nix and NiceBeans who are handling boss.
Kha'Nix of course if you're confused so wait. Kha'Nix in on a Guardian Druid right now.
You need to get that buff from somewhere, we don't want to have it on a healer and now with a gear death knight
it made more sense for him to go away from his Guardian Druid allowing Kha'Nix to take that spot.
So now Frost Death Knight is going to be doing so much damage on this fight, you can already see on the meters
That he is indeed doing some big pump a damn here. We go jumping into the next ball
Bolder vote here for you. Wow. Go when this dies. Yes
Narko is gonna be so far ahead of the numbers you position that it's gonna be crazy
I will put a five. Do you think that Narko is gonna be top? I'm not even I'm not don't mean top
I mean top by a lot. I guess this is the kind of fight someone like Narkley shines so brightly
This is this is one of those moments where you do draft him in to do what he does
I don't know where he finds the damage. I'm not saying anybody else is playing worse. It's just he binds it somewhere and he just
This is if this is his heaven if you know what I mean
This is his perfect moment, but we got to that nicely one thing. That's not really talks about enough
I don't think I'm a spike. I found nasty is is the the heal absorb
Oh, yeah, I'm still we put on the raid is like it's
It's a ridiculous amount of HP. Oh, this is not good
I think it's just as you're kind of getting used to it now the person who's responsible for the a we stun goes
Okay, I'm gonna wait that extra half-second actually because maybe it's gonna influence some of the grips or that person who is responsible for the knockback in the north
Or the edge of the room. Excuse me might need to do a little bit of a better job at aiming that
We will see who is responsible and they'll do a little bit of review on that for sure
Here we go breaking out some more eggs right in the cleft. Yep getting that overlap. Do all done as the nicely
There we go
Yeah, that bolly coming down during the
How much it can really take to remain
As causing no issues whatsoever
Yeah, that's a fun idea
This is practically the one of us
Bring them all to life
You're also hopefully going down soon
Come on, bolly
Good terrain, I think
Nice, good, fixation
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Twister going down for Liquid not too long ago,
near the end of their day.
A couple of hours goes for us.
So we hope that we're going to have some solid progress
into it today.
As you can see, they have been assembling
into the building.
We have some Mythic Blast going for the moment and surely that's not going to last very long, right?
I'm okay, Magen, I'm joined by the wonderful FatBossTV, Alex.
I don't... I don't want any more Mythic Blast.
Hi, how's it going?
I'm excited!
Obviously, the big worm has gone down.
Liquid making short work of it, or I say that, they had to put 120 pools into that bad boy.
It was 120 pools and I don't think anybody saw that coming from BrewTwister.
massive change in comp as well going from the three tanks down to the two tanks going for double blood decay as well
And still three healing it
So it was something that we talked about a little bit as a potential that they would drop one tank
But going for that double blood decay with a crazy amount of ad control really really good sustained and survivability
teams who paid out for them so I wonder if
Echo saw that and went oh
Probably should have copied that instead
So they might very well be getting some characters ready. I'm not entirely too sure exactly which ones they're going to be going for.
It also might be that they're having a nice little chat and waking up in the morning instead of going in and doing one of the more difficult bosses in the raid thus far.
Instead of just waking up, getting their characters ready and warming up as players by going to do some Mythic Plus.
Especially if you can get some little bits and pieces, not a bad idea.
Especially whilst we're not too stressed about moving forward at a super, super high pace.
Absolutely. I've only done a few Mythic Plus so far this season and I'm actually very much enjoying it.
Haven't done one yet.
With some Mythic Zeroes?
Hmm, did we?
Oh, maybe not.
No, I didn't do one with you, no.
I had very few Mythic Dungeons entirely.
Oh, we did the raid together.
Yes, we've done the raid quite a few times.
Enjoyable. And I'm looking forward to doing Mythic Plus.
I'm looking forward to doing Mythic Plus. I'm looking forward to doing Mythic Plus.
I'm looking forward to doing Mythic Plus. I'm looking forward to doing Mythic Plus.
Grimbertole, I was wondering how this would be in Mythic Plus, this is a dungeon that
was back in Cataclysm, brought back into the current rotation of Mythic Plus, obviously
when these dungeons were first created, Mythic Plus was not content then, so it's always
interesting when they bring back an older dungeon and make it for Mythic Plus, so they
have some cursed casts that back in the day was fine, but as a Mythic Plus dungeon
can absolutely annihilate everybody, there's always a talking point and a wondering
when you're going into them. But this is actually quite pleasantly surprising. The dungeon is
quite good as a method post dungeon. I mean it could just be that I haven't played it enough
yet but...
But definitely have to have made some changes to it for sure. Like even just the idea of
the spells back then didn't use to have a cooldown so you'd just be able to spam
the spell and the whole group would get AD buff and you could just dispel all of
them. Those sorts of things would need to be fixed. Yes I'm not entirely too sure
exactly what's changed about these dungeons in comparison to their Cataclysm counterparts.
plain cataclysm. Classic myself. But yeah, no it's cool to see them reaching this far
back into inter raids, into the past into the old expansions in order to find dungeons.
Obviously having a similar thing with what's the name, Vortex Pinnacle. They had that
as well in one of the seasons last expansion. I think it was season four? Question mark?
Yeah, I think so. Exactly man in the parents of some point.
I don't know, as soon as there is no new raid in a tier, that's me gone for the rest of the expansion personally.
But I know that normal guilds aren't really able to do that.
Take those sort of long breaks between tiers is normally a great way for your guild to disband, so would not recommend that.
But yes, if you are just tuning in, let's give you a little bit of a rundown as to what's been going on overnight.
Liquid, the best guild over in NA, have indeed taken down.
Brutwister with a comp of two blood decays and three healers and then a whole mixture
They even ran a room kinks. They need to get a druid buff from somewhere
They the end of that fight looks incredible
No space in the middle of the room. No, it's one of those fights where the DPS check is so tight
That towards the end of the fight when you're running out of space rapidly the pet lay area is
Really really being limited
You're stuck with this tiny air in the middle of the room while being swirly is taking webs out and it's very intense
It's a race against time. You're in the goo trying to well battling for your life trying to take the boss down
It was a very epic moment a very epic boss like I'm not entirely too short. What add-ons that
Yeah, so I've been having this pop-up it might be details because that was the I only downloaded a few
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details popping up for me as well showing of score gain which we all know
is really important just goes to show how on the point I am this morning where
even just a pop-up of something on the screen is enough to completely derail
my shiny pop-ups but um yes they must go down with I think well there's a
little time left on the hard in range timer of 10 minutes that they ran into, but the whole room was
covered in goo. They had a very, very clean pool. I think they did end up using all their battle
reses, but that was, they got all the way until the last phase with all of them up. So no, very,
very impressive stuff from Liquid. It seems that this raid has a lot of scary bosses. So we're,
which is excellent news for us. Absolutely. That is wonderful to see more things for us to
have a little bit of a chat over and to watch and enjoy. So it should be a race to remember
the Nerubar Palace but indeed this morning we're going to be making some decisions and whilst that's
happening getting some mythic plus in. We'll let you know as soon as they well as soon as we hear
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I love the idea of I'm a fish girl and then just leaving it
I'm just going to walk out.
I'm just going to walk out.
Just head to off, walk out.
Oh, man.
How long have we been on?
I think past that we lose our mind.
Oh, man.
There's some real, real good stuff though in Mythic Plus right now.
So I imagine they're going to be going into trying to gather the little bits and pieces that they can't do some big dumb.
Yeah, you know what else as well? If this race does go into the second reset,
looming be the second week of mythic they will need to fill up their vaults at some point so filling
out vaults and catching up with anything I think they're also in a in a meeting right now as well so
they're absolutely maximizing their time discussing the plan of today and make sure that we're getting
as much gear as possible but yes I think this will go into the second reset at this rate it
there's certainly a good chance I do like the idea that just like anyone else who works from home
the playing wow during their meetings as well very important but yes I think there is um there's
certainly a chance that it goes into the secondary step for sure um if the bosses continue to be as
difficult as they are as difficult as Kyver looks like it could be um and Brute Twister obviously
being quite a big wall we weren't even considering these bosses to be necessarily something that we're
that scared about. The main boss that we were worried about was the Silk and Core. That
fight on Mythic difficulty looked insane with all the changes that they've added to it.
It's not even the abundance of changes, it's the one major change, turning the fight
into some sort of star augury, Sydenathria's Phase 3 on Mythic throwback. You've got
to soak each other's orbs, but you can't get close to one another and you're always
It's one of these orbs and it's terrifying and the boss is gripping everyone in all at once.
There's so many unknowns about it as well that it's one that we were mainly terrified about.
That's the one where we're thinking like 300 odd pulls, it's like the tindrel of this tier.
We haven't even seen it yet, which is excellent news.
It means that we've got a race ahead of us, at least, rather than everything going super, super quick.
But we don't know, maybe if it does fall over.
I think it makes it much more exciting when you see the girls side by side battling it out on more than just two or one boss.
I think it's excellent tuning so far. I am so pleased with Brew Twister. I think it is a fantastic fight
that could have been just completely overlooked in terms of the player base. It could have been a
fight that no one really enjoyed and it might feel different to play, but watching it I I'm very
glad that it's tuned in a way that everything is very punchy because it really puts them to
the test, right? Get them to really show off how good they very much are. There's some
personal play in there. There's organization, planning cooldowns, allocating damage and resources
and they can really show off what they're made of and it's really great.
No, you're entirely right. I have just been informed by production that we do need your help.
Oh, we need you. Wait, why?
Exxcarn splits in the chat.
Chances are that we're not going to be doing this for very long. We've probably got one or
two rounds. We've got a couple of characters that we want to be getting done. So if you can
can help out with splits. If you find yourself in a very, very boring meeting that you really
don't need to be paying too much attention to, feel free to type X Clam splits in the chat,
find out how you can help look it up in the group finder as well in the LFG tool on EU
servers. We do need folks to come and help out with, I assume, Mythic. Mythic, excuse
me, Heroic splits. Yes, Heroic. So there we go. Heroic splits are coming our way
by splits, obviously probably just one run, but we will see exactly how crazy they
they go with it. It is what it is here. This is giving me, what's the name of it? Sepricor
of the first one, Vibes. It's just like they're done with splits. We're going into mythic,
and then it's like one mythic boss size, and you're like, well, back to splits. Just
the constant ebb and flow of them trying to find more and more things that they can
go and grab loot-wise. This is something that we didn't really see at all at any point
during the previous expansion. Largely speaking once we pulled that trigger to go into Mythic
it was very rare to go back into Heroic difficulty but with the introduction of Heroic Week as
well as the more class-stacky sort of versions of these encounters it's certainly leading
to some differences in loot strategy and gearing strategy so that seems to be going
through.
There are shenanigans.
in this raid. Oh, you thought there were no scuffed comps. Oh, you thought this boss was going to be a pushover.
No, it seems like it's going to be difficult. It seems like the two tank strat seems to be going very, very well.
Instant dollars pulling ahead to tanking. Method very, very close to Echo.
They're also two tanking, double blood death knight. Liquid obviously getting the kill with a double blood death knight.
I can only imagine that we're going down a route where we're trying to sort out a double blood death knight comp,
comp, which may indeed lead to some regression. We might not be able to get back to that third
phase as quickly because we're going to have to relearn exactly how we're going to be doing
our tanking cooldowns as well as our CC rotations and whatnot. So there's going to be a little
bit of work. It's not going to be pretty. It is unfortunate if that's the way that
we're going to be going. But the fact that we're jumping into a Heroic Split
gives me the indication that they want to be bringing in a new character, which
which does obviously indicate a compositional switch.
And it could be that they're maybe preparing
for a future boss as well,
because they do have to bear in mind, right?
We're on boss five.
There are still six Sky Vesa.
We've got seven, which is still concord,
and we also have Queen and Sarak.
So we've still got a way to go.
There you go, echo split, sick round through to court.
So that's what they're gonna be doing.
It looks like they're doing two.
So look up echo split in the group finder.
Yeah, you can help them out.
You can get an excellent way to fill up your vault.
Damn, I need to go in now.
I would as well.
I haven't got a hook done on my evoker this week.
Yeah, I haven't.
I haven't made either.
I would help.
Damn.
Well, here's what it is.
We're on the couch.
I haven't even got my UI set up at the desk either,
so it'll be an abysmal thing.
I don't use a UI, so I could.
Oh, snap.
But nobody wants to see me game play.
We're to vote against it.
Oh, yeah, I was there for that vote.
I was voting against the mages.
Yeah, I also was voting.
I think it's only you and Jinji
that want to hear about mages.
I think everyone else is sick of them
because of the crazy damage.
Oh, look how busted they are. We're going to bring like 14 of them
whoever made that stupid comp.
Wasn't the Arcane mages really, really strong?
I'm going to Hellfire Citadel.
Was it the Reaver, the second boss?
Well, they were just
a normal amount of Arcane mages.
Yeah, they
I think they used one tank, one healer and 18 RK mages and they killed it in 20 seconds.
This is like deep into farm.
This is why bosses are not dying.
Have they thought about doing that, 18 RK mages?
Oh man.
I don't know if that will help much on Brutwister.
It will certainly help Brutwister out, that's for sure.
Increase her KDA.
Although she doesn't need a lot of help with that right now, they can bring any comp, and
I think they're going to be helping her KDA.
Yeah, Brute Twister is no joke.
I honestly really love Brute Twister, and it might be very different to play, it's different
watching to playing, but from watching, I'm really thrilled about the tuning of it.
It is interesting to see how the fight is taking shape, because of course when we
first looked at it, there was very much the, well, there was a lot of different
vibes. My vibe was along the lines of you know this is just going to be a fight
where as long as you break out the eggs the rest of it's kind of free. Turns out
that's not the case at all. It's basically nine different overlaps that you
have to learn because you break out the eggs nine different times so there's
nine different combinations and each time you have a different amount of CEC
and damage available to you as well as like a different raid sort of
positional element to it as well, what overlaps from the boss with the
Web debuffs and whatnot. So it turns out because all of the individual elements matter, it does make the fight a lot harder.
I was just under the assumption it's the fifth boss who's going to care.
Yeah, I mean, if it was tuned a little bit, you know, let's say easier, right?
So the Swirlies didn't one shot because they weren't, they didn't hurt as much or the ads didn't have as much health or the
boss didn't have as much health. The mechanics themselves and the ads wouldn't necessarily matter as much as they do.
you could afford more mistakes, you wouldn't need to be so precious about how you're spending your resources
the whole fight wouldn't need to be as planned as it is so I don't know I'm very very happy to see that
but if you missed anything from yesterday we have a star forward flashback for you
like these you can catch all the good stuff it's gonna be cake isn't it
haha probably a rep palette in with a weapon ready to go like that's
That's an interesting one.
What's that?
Why is Kenix in a traffic pit?
Robo-Kenix-bin?
What?
He rises?
What's the ritual?
What's the ritual?
I might be a beast.
It's just a delicious little turd.
Right in your mouth.
There it is.
Nutty.
Beautiful.
Mm.
Thanks, Mike.
Uh, D is for Dallara.
It exploded.
Oh no!
Lost!
And they're killing the boss and it's at four fish
Look at that, the boom twister spawning the last Parasax.
Oh, don't give in to them.
He's jumped straight into that box, what the hell?
Damn, he valiantly leapt into the box.
That is a strong choice.
A strong choice in me.
That is one of the choices he could have made.
That is the most choice of the time.
I think Dr. Maddox, we need you right now.
We have a patient.
Well, he doesn't, you're gonna be fine, please, don't worry about it.
Yes!
Oh no!
No, lick it off!
Lick it off!
Kickfart KKI!
Oh, let's talk about Charity Begins!
There's no way we're going quad DKs,
because it is mad if they're not bringing Narko,
because he's DK's ass gear.
My son, the very forests of Lordaeron whispered the name.
Narko?
It's about to get cold in the Roobah Palace baby, it's about to get real cold!
That's a fail!
You failed!
Come on mate, just pop it in there, all the way, come on now, keep going, there we go,
nearly done!
Oh yeah, squirt there, all the ice in mate, pop it in.
Plop that in you girl mate.
We're going to come real brief, we're just going to watch out for some getting the
situation.
Oh my god, got the d**k!
Oh, we beat it!
Yeah!
Oh no!
Excellent!
I'm sending one over to you, GD, who's been staring at dogpitches for the last five minutes.
I'm waiting for a pull anyway now.
I'm real!
God bless Echo!
And their lack of ability to pull a boss.
And we are joined by the one, the only, Zala-
I didn't really judge your feet out.
Oh no!
And you didn't make them up, gay?
He didn't paint his toes!
He didn't paint the toes!
What are we saying here then?
What's going on? How's it going?
I feel lovely like Princess.
He did look like a lovely princess.
He came out much better than I was expecting.
That narco edit was great by the way.
Chow's Chris doing the Lord's work.
Starforge Flashback.
You can watch all of these over on the YouTube channel as well.
So go check those out.
It's one of my favourite...
I watched the flashback from previous races as well. It's always jokes. Oh man. I hope you enjoyed that
We should play more often. We should play that another point during the day as well
They're great highlight packages. I will talk to production to what we can do
But yes, if you are just joining us welcome. Good morning today
Check out cuz I keep opening saying good morning and everyone's like
It's 4 p.m. Oh
That's rough.
It's actually morning this time.
Yes, so yeah, we are here in Cologne, Germany at the SK Magenta facility, and we are here
waiting for them to get into Mythic as we are trying to get down Brood Twist, but unfortunately
it looks like we do need to gear some other characters up today.
We are doing some splits.
If you're able to help out with the splits, it looks like we're doing two runs from
sick round through to court.
You can find that in the groupfinder under Echo Split.
So do go and find that if you can help out awesome that'll be very very much needed the quicker they do those runs the quicker
We can go in on mythic absolutely
Well, they need to as well because liquid pulling on ahead getting down
Brutus and as well working on Chavez are who looks to be harder than Brutus somehow
I think it's like seven billion seven seven hundred the rats involved
Yep, they love a lot of rats tons of sevens very scary
Now really one of the most anticipated fights in the raid for me is Kai Vezza as well as the Silicon Court
with Brew Twister according to
Some really stupid castle said there'll be a single poor boss. So
Unfortunately that information is lost to time
You know, yeah, we'll never know, but it all looks really funny.
The fact that the first four were, well, Liquid, one shot, the first four.
Echo, one shot, apart from Rashnan, where it was two pulls.
They're two-shot, yeah.
And then, so you just see the one, one, one, one, or one, one, one, two.
And then you just see 120.
There was 120 pulls for Liquid to dash through Twister,
and that just really amused me looking at it.
A little bit of a spike, one could say.
Yeah, that's a little bit of a spike.
I must admit, if you are a good guild that maybe plays like three days a week or something,
I think there's a very real chance that you clear the first three this week and then you're like...
Oh no.
Uh-oh. I haven't got anything going on anymore. You know, it's just that's it.
There's quite a jump.
Well, there's like, is there any point in playing Brew Twister? Like, Liquid killed it with an item level of 621.
I saw that ethical got...
Such an excellent point, actually.
Yeah, ethical got to it, which is a very, very good guild. They're not on the leadboard right now,
But like yesterday the life second at some point or something like that an amazing guild that I don't think plays a hell of a lot
They got that with 639 level. It's like
Well, we've got we've played too well, but we haven't played enough splits
It's one of those things that I assume those be going off and doing some
Mythic Blast and maybe doing some heroic runs just to see how far they can get but yeah
It's certainly a giant jump up in difficulty
Yeah, the difference in art level between liquid and well you can see liquids. I think they killed it with 621 point
Seven you are something I at least with whereas echo would win over in the six twenties yet. No, I think they're still holding
I think they're still holding
Not fully committed. I really might be some upgrades. I think it was it last expansion was sorry
It was in a major seal. Oh god
They didn't fully send all of their upgrades on their gear, and they didn't have everything in place quite yet
And they did it quite very late on
Yeah, no one surprised me it was like you know frack down to 2% and it's like hold
Okay, it's upgrade my gear
Now we say I think we might be using this comp
Now echoed known for keeping as much of their power
In hand as possible waiting to make sure that they use it in the most efficient way because it's nothing worse than I
Say that we send everything and get Brutus down now say that as I know I as a plate wearer
There's a good set of shoulders that drop a blue Brutus
I don't know if there is the probabilism but say there is and I go and upgrade my shoulders and in the shoulder shop
And this is like well that was a waste of my resources where really I could have put that into a different piece
You know what I mean?
That's that's like they're very you know apprehensive
They didn't want to waste any of their power because if it means it takes a little bit longer to get to that point
But it actually allows them to get a kill before the reset as an example by really doing that crazy min max
Something they did on Sylvanas as an example back in Sanctum of Domination
That min max was
there for them because they took their time and because they were quite
Stingy so to speak on how they used their upgrades
Yeah, it absolutely pays off. We're all in this for the late game, right? It comes down to whoever clears the entire raid first, so it comes down to the last boss, and you do have these tough bosses in between.
The ultimate boss usually providing quite a challenge, and then there being maybe a wall as well, which could be Brute Twist, or it could be Kai Vezer.
So they definitely do hold out and save a lot of their energy resources until they get to the later end of the fight.
the fight but what's also quite interesting is the completely different damage profiles that the
various fights require right when you look at something like brood twister that is so much
aoe and then you look at something like kiveza which is just pure single target they are extremely
different fights that are going to require completely different damage profiles potentially
completely different classes not potentially I think guarantee there is going to be such a
different from position from Brew Twister to Kai Vezer and both potentially being such tight damage checks as well requiring
different damage profiles. So that's also something to consider. Yeah, no, you're right. It's having a
wide
selection of classes, very well geared classes as well. It's going to be key for the
top guillotine. Having the capability of saying we want a crazy AoE comp. Let's have four Frost CKs.
We have that available though. Maybe that was maybe that's going a little overboard because it seems like that's been dialed back by
The only guild that's killed around our liquid where they did use for DK's, but so them with blood
You know, oh, we want to be able to run three fury warriors
Then they have that available and pretty sure they could go over three if they wanted to you know
There's they have those choices available to them so that they can you know
Match their damage profile to what the boss is a most vulnerable to so we will see
Exactly how that all plays out whether or not they have done sufficient prep. Well, the answer is no because they're doing more prep now
So we are going to be sending a little bit more always more to do there's always more characters to gear
That's great favorite thing of like, I know we have eight DKs. We what if we had nine? Yes
It's it's a super normal thing as well to do prep in the morning
We were speaking about a little bit earlier. Oh, I think I was just yammering on yapping about the idea
I do yep that it's true that I'm known for my yapping, but yes as I like the whole
About the idea that you oh god, I can use my words. I'm a professional. Yeah, but um that you are I
Waking up in the morning trying to get everything moving warming up
So you're ready that when you jump in a Brutus
So you're actually a good place to place because you've just done some bit of plaster a little bit of veroxie warming up
That's what I also need to do see I would have helped you out, but I also wasn't listening to what you said. Oh
So I left you to that's normal
I'm not a yeah everything you say Alex. I take it. It's a waste of time
waste of precious resources and wouldn't do that
Definitely not your
Guides back in the day got us to victory. Hey, I would have never been able to kill raid bosses without your guides
Shred the dungeon journal. It's just lazy at this point. I've done that for Queen Ancer and I still don't know what's going on
And you'll find us Queen Ancer X dungeon journal is like some sort of biblical tome in terms of its length
Very confusing. It's like reading some sort of
You know engineering plan for some sort of eldritch machine. It's like what the hell is going on
Yeah, each time I like reading I swear they add more and more nested abilities of
How like okay, so the venomous froth makes a venomous foam, which is then acidic foam froth
There is acid with a debuff of vulnerability called acid, but that's not the same acid
It's on the floor because that's acidic acid
Then we get digested and then I just wake up and I'm like covered in like you know, but I've had a nosebleed
Days have gone by I'm in a different country. I don't know what's going on
So yeah, that's that's my experience in the dungeon general. So yeah, just do that if you're struggling
Just shoot the dungeon general, it's definitely, that's help you
I'm real very enlightened, but thanks for that
You're welcome, that's what I'm here for
Oh man
I'm just looking at this little player POV, just below us here
Very cute there. Oh, how to?
froth milk for lattes and cappuccinos. Alright, let's see if we can study this and plan for queen and
Sarek. Okay. Alright. How to froth milk for lattes and cappuccinos without a machine or steam.
I don't know if the stream... Oh, I had one of those when I was younger. Those little... Yeah,
they kind of do a little... An aero latte. Other brands are available.
What's it going to do?
Alright.
Okay, right down.
You need batteries.
Two of them.
Double A.
You don't have to use the Duracell ones.
Once again, other batteries are also available.
Okay, so we need splits for batteries.
We do need battery splits.
We need to do the supermarket split runs.
I don't know if the stream is hearing the audio from this or we're all just watching
this.
Okay, no audio allowed.
So this is a really important part that when you turn up...
What is this?
It's a six minute video on how to froth up some milk
Yeah, I know but it's not we got told by
It's a real thing. Is it a six minute long real thing like just shut the just shut the thing in it then just
Okay
Hold what is his tease?
I can't take it. This is too much. Oh, it's going
Very complex rotation. All right spin to win warriors
Why are we watching this?
There we go, and then it turns into acid there we go. All right, so this is your mythic and Sirac
I don't know why he was like, he was like teasing, he was like, what am I gonna put in?
He must whip the venom.
Oh man.
It's six minutes.
Damn.
He's still going.
It's quite six minutes confirmed.
Oh.
Oh.
Hold.
Oh.
Oh.
Ooh.
I don't even like coffee.
What?
There's the coffee acid.
And we.
Honestly, I learnt more about Answers from that video from the Dungeon channel.
Well, that's what was very insightful.
Alright, froth the phone.
The guy was like teasing.
For six minutes.
Did he think?
He was just like...
Unbelievable.
Mythic Plus.
Yeah, welcome back.
Welcome back everyone to Mythic Plus.
Oh my goodness.
Yay!
It's a thing.
I mean they completely revamped Mythic Plus for this expansion.
this expansion. What do you think about those changes? I guess we can talk about the changes
rather than actually sorry. Yeah well the changes are we have removed a lot well all of the
previous affixes. It's all gone. No more sanguine. Bye bye. No more bolstering. Bye bye.
That's good. Yeah all the previous affixes are gone. So now at a plus two you will
gain Zalataps. I can't remember the exact wording but you essentially get a Zalataps
Sorry to interrupt. Can we go back to Meras real quick? Do you notice what class he's on?
Oh!
Yeah, it looks like they're getting the double blood decay route. There we go. Make sense?
It does make sense.
Bit of egg on their face, I think, for maybe not jumping to that.
Yeah, I'm sure they do.
I might go with the splits of four because if they do remove the brew, brew off the tank.
They do get a brew off the tank.
Yeah, they need to get the Mystic touch from somewhere. That's going to be really important in this melee.
that many warriors. Yeah absolutely. I'm sorry we're talking about Mythoplasm. I love it.
Don't have the changes though. I love how we're in Siege of Baralus when I said that.
It's like oh yay we love bringing back old Compton not letting it die. We should let Siege
of Baralus die. You don't like Siege of Baralus? Um so I played Alliance side which was...
Everyone plays Alliance right now.
Yes.
Yes they do.
So everyone has to go through it.
It's not my favourite dungeon.
It's just, it was very difficult, very challenging back in the day.
I used to really not look forward to parking it.
I still don't know what the Alliance route is at the beginning.
Because of course this dungeon has a slightly different start depending on what faction you're on.
But now everyone regardless of faction is going through the Alliance side.
Is it the marauders? They have all the raiders. They have like this iron hook that just randomly hooks yank somebody in before doing an A.E. on the ground.
Oh, yeah, I remember that.
And that does so much damage. On a high enough key, which is basically what I'm going to show you, you have to be so careful about it.
I think there's something like it outranges. You'd have to have people who could tank it be close in case it picked them.
And yeah, it's just, it was just a lot harder. There's multiple trash mobs that start the alliance side that are pain.
That fear used to be a flat AoE, no, like as in it would just line a site, anyone in line
of sight would get feared, right?
Now it seems to be an AoE around the mob.
Oh!
Was it always an AoE around the mob?
Actually, I think you might be right.
I remember hiding.
It's very early iterations.
It may have been a line of sight fear because that does ring a bell, but they must have
changed that because when I was doing most of them, I think I was pushing.
It was definitely on the ground.
Yeah, maybe that was like early on into the expansion.
It used to be an AoE.
you could line a site the AOE so like you could say in the AOE we just need to
duck around the corner or something. I don't know. It could have been that but there was definitely some shenanigans in that way. But we was talking about the changes.
Yes. So you essentially get, I don't know, Xalatast's favour, I remember the exact word that I was saying, which will change on a week to week basis and that is
essentially your affixes now. So the one that's up at the moment is she will spawn Orbs and they are very similar to the Razorgeth Orbs. You can interrupt them, you can spell steal them or
or mass dispel them, purge them.
Any sort of CC or disruption effect?
Yeah, any sort of CC will consume it,
granting you the buff, so it's a stacking buff.
And if you don't consume them,
the enemies gain that buff instead.
And a more powerful version of it indeed.
Yes, it's kind of like, you could see the orbs there,
or very quickly vanish.
But so it's kind of the kiss curse thing.
And that's going to be a rotating affix.
So I think there's six of them.
So even though that's this week's one,
it will change next week.
Then that's a plus two.
So then at a plus four,
you will also gain tyrannical or fortified,
which will swap week to week.
Which is obviously for just really base.
So fortified for people who don't know increasing
add health and damage,
tyrannical increase in boss health and damage.
Absolutely.
And then on a plus seven,
you will be granted challenges,
peril I think is the exact wording apologies something like doesn't it make
it so that when you die adds way more time to it yes so previously a death
would would act would deduct five seconds from the timer so challenges peril
deducts 15 seconds to the timer which is quite nasty honestly yeah that is
extremely punishing it's already super bad if you lose somebody because you
know if you are popping cool down somebody dies well you have lost all
all of that damage in the pack.
So that pack is gonna take way longer.
Also, the person has to run back.
So you're already taking,
you're already losing so much time as it is.
And then on top of that,
you're also taking the 15 seconds on top of that.
So I'm worried in higher keys,
that it's gonna be a case of one death
can set you back so much
that it might just be over completely,
which would be really sad to see
because I do think an element to really high-end pushing
is kind of reacting when something goes wrong.
You know, if a kick's missed or cover it with this or we work together as a very coordinated
team and I love those moments of when a small mistake is made and you try and salvage it.
So then a plus 10, so I'm totally waffling off a bit of rage here, at plus 10 you will
gain the either fortified or tyrannical, the opposite of which one was active on the
plus four.
So tyrannical and fortified will rotate on that plus four.
one week will be tyrannical plus four the next week will be fortified plus four but on the plus 10 you
also gain the other one as well so in theory you'll be playing with both yeah so like every week at
plus 10 the bosses will always have the same health and damage so will the trash yes yeah I can
get that like that so hopefully I'll make it so the dungeons are balanced a little bit better
because there were certainly some dungeons in previous well every single tier that's ever
been every single season of this game that we've had mythic plus and we're certain dungeons
on a fortified week you're like nope not going there and same with tyrannical
sometimes tyrannical just flat out reduces I just can't kill that boss
that boss is just way too strong on this particular key that we just don't have the
cd for it. It's such a long time they've become harder than braid bosses or longer
than braid bosses as well. And they're far less mechanical complexity they should just
get boring as well. So yeah the like for me they might as well not be
fortified and tyrannical if they're both there it just means everything
does more health and has more health than damage it's like okay but it seems like
basically they've reduced the affixes down to more punishing deaths and this
whole Zalatath comes in and spawns some orbs that you need to CC or you have to
intercept some orbs going towards some mobs you know just little bits and
pieces nothing too crazy just a small little affix that will give you a
buff but I believe once you go to a plus 12 they didn't even give you buffs
Yeah, absolutely. So once you get to the plus 12, you lose Zalatath. It says no. I'm not going to give you these kiss curse affixes anymore.
Just curse curse.
And just actively buffs the dungeon. I think it's just 20% flat 20% extra.
Do you not have to do a cosmic ascension or anything like that? I just thought that they didn't give you the buff. I could be wrong though.
No, I think you just get rid of that to aphid style and you just get them on to having a flat outright health gain as far as I remember, but I think that that is really positive because I do think there's multiple levels of play, but in Mythic Plus, or even raiding, I think you have kind of two avenues, right?
You've got the people that are doing Mythic Plus for filling their vault, getting gear,
the fun as well, because we forget this is a game, and done for our fun.
No, no such thing as fun.
Alright, fun all out.
We are here to gain item level and that is all.
Absolutely, but so you have that area of keys where people are kind of just getting
gear, filling their vault, and then you have the level of play where you have the
I was about to say, I don't remember that.
I was about to say, I don't remember that.
I was about to say, I don't remember that.
I don't know why they changed it.
I mean, let's just add more things.
I think they're making more difficult.
Yeah, sure.
It's fun.
Yeah, a little bit more of a challenge.
I don't think it's that challenging.
No, but it can...
Just don't put any of the stuff by the fountain, and then just, oh, gosh.
It's not a wounded island.
Why is it moving so slow in that water, though?
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Is this...
Oh, okay.
We'll just climb on top of the statue.
Seems like a wise idea.
A little tiny gnome.
Yeah, a panda disco.
Yeah.
Doing the Lord's work.
Yeah, it's uh...
I've always been interested to see what a season of Mythic Pass would be like without any affixes
and I think this is the closest we're gonna get.
Yeah!
I'm interested to see how the dungeons are gonna stand by themselves.
So I'm looking forward to trying out the season,
because it's something that I've kind of advocated for having a very light affix touch
to see if the dungeons could just stand by themselves,
whether or not that is enough for you to have full fun of it.
Oh, I like how they spawn Zalatath there.
Making it so... did you see? Because they're on top of the fountain.
The little statue you made it so she spawns like in a bit of a spot that you would similarly snap a mob to so they're all spawned at one
Direct location playing on this statue. Wait, how do you stay up there?
By the fire depends if you hit you if those swirlies hit you then
I see the baits as well. Can they I don't think I don't think the tank baits. That's why the tank can stay
Okay, so just easy life. There you go
But I imagine if you had a melody PS they would not be particularly happy. Yeah, well that's a
I really love the fact that they are kind of treating Mythic Plus that's two various levels of play the
Farm keys or push keys. I actually think that it's
Gear keys and then push keys
So if people want to push the key see how high they can push the keys playing for scores seeing how high they can
Push keys up. I don't think that that should be
Considered in the same bracket as people who are just gearing their characters or gearing their oats are filling the vault
I think they're two completely different mentalities, types of content, even though it's within
the same content.
So I really like the fact that they're separating out, let's say, the push keys from the gearing
keys in terms of, right, you can push up, you're going to have these things apply in
that mode of play, but then it doesn't necessarily carry down.
Because so many times in Dragonfly, especially, I felt like the dungeons were so overloaded
with mechanics on top of all of the affixes and even doing it with doing a weekly key is stressful
at the best times the famous weekly no levers really messy they're not very coordinated people
aren't necessarily pressing all of their buttons no interrupts and then if an interrupt goes through
it can just be a knock-on effect of chaos and you're just trying to fill up your vault right
it's a lot of people can come home from work i just want to do a few keys to fill up the vault
have a bit of more relaxing time so i don't think if you miss a kick in that area of play
It should one-shot somebody, but in a higher key, where you're playing for the challenge, absolutely it should.
Yeah, I can understand that element of it. I also think that just because, like, I still think that if you're going to be doing plus-10s and you want to get the plus-10 loot from it,
and you want to get that plus-10 vault, that you need to have an understanding, like a pretty solid, strong understanding.
It shouldn't be like a baseline, well, of course, a 10's free. Nope. A 10 should have to be worked for a little bit.
I think having a little bit of knowledge of the dungeon and doing it in that fashion isn't necessarily a bad thing.
You know, having a mastery of the game in lots of different ways in order to get you gear.
But I also understand if you want to raid log, then Mythic Pulse can just be a bit of a pain.
It is what it is. It's one of those things where, you know, you want to make sure that the content is engaging enough that it isn't just giving out free gear because then what's the point.
But also not too difficult, it's just a pain to actually have to do, you have to find that very, very sort of specific middle ground that can be difficult to find.
Yeah, and it almost felt a little bit at times is when they tried to tune PVP and PVE at the same time, where it's just completely different content and you can't just buff something or nerf some things that goes across to PVP or PVE.
I think they're very separate things. So I think it's nice to see the separation from the high-end push keys to
Let's say the the gearing keys even though they can be challenging as you're saying the plus 10 is no joke
That's still extremely difficult still requires a lot of dungeon knowledge and cast knowledge
So it's not not walking the park by no means. I will become over time of the season
We start slapping harder
Eventually as you get bigger health and everything just melts so much quicker plus
I imagine within like a couple weeks when you got nice like a nice enough gear from a few volts and stuff should be a much more of an easy state for sure
I'm totally right right now. It's uh, you can see these guys like to it when they're like in a pre-made
You know when they're making mistakes as they're getting used to the dungeons as well
You got like some multi-time MDI champions here, you know
Getting slapped about by a plus 10. Oh, they have made a change the tentacles where the I think it's the demolition
and demolishing terror tentacle here.
Now does a knockback.
This slam will now knock people back.
As you can see, this was so annoying.
I also like the way that they have come back
to this instance of Silmaid,
it's so that when you charge the tentacle,
you can sometimes go in the water.
Wonderful.
Yeah, this platform is so tiny.
This is a hunter.
It's so annoying with your pets as well.
The AI, the pets would just not be very happy.
Oh well.
Oh yeah, the BM hunter.
Yeah, your pets struggling to reach the tentacle.
Did you have to resummon them?
No, you had to manually move them around and things like that.
It was great.
It's very similar to the Carapace of Nizoff, anyone who did that fight.
Oh, I remember the Hunters.
It does feel like sometimes they forget to test pet AI, or they see that the pet AI is
screwed up and go, well, unlucky, moving on.
That has happened sometimes.
I don't know, on Rationan, on the PTR, the platform was completely screwed up,
but they fixed that now before it got to life.
That's good. I know that I saw in the Dranos video that the charges and whatnot were all a bit screwed up people
You know you charge towards a boss to be actually end up going like around in like ten different circles and some strange sort of
Geometric shapes before you reach the boss when people's pets getting stuck and all sorts a lot of path not available
No, that kind of stuff yet can happen with bosses for sure
There we go that first time easy
Easy one shot. Yeah
The dispel knocking anyone in that little ring backwards as well. Wolf Disco getting caught just by it.
Nothing for Wolf Disco here. I don't know if he's after anything specific from this instance.
He might be here for somebody else instead.
Yeah, there's the spyglass that drops from this dungeon, which I know was highly sought after in BFA.
I don't know if it's... there are so many trinkets that are really good this patch,
so I'm not sure how it holds up in comparison to everything else.
everything else. It's one of the ones that I know that Agi users are quite happy about.
I don't know if it's necessarily biz for everybody, there's also a very good Agi trinket from Grimpatel,
the one that has the unused mastery which a lot of classes like, it's like on a 2 minute
cooldown or 1.5 minute cooldown, so it lines up with a lot of CDs, you're just big,
big burst when you want it, but it's very dependent on the spec. But yeah, right
right now if you're a strength or an agi user, spam grimp at all for your trinkets, if you're
an int user generally go to mists and you'll be happy to let your trinkets.
Speaking of mists, looks like Echo are looking for some plus two mist keys if anybody has
those available.
Trinket traders.
They are looking for trinket traders which I imagine is the unbound changeling.
Such a trying KT traders.
Oh dear.
Trinkrap traders.
is one of these.
Drink Wrap Traders.
Oh no.
Yep, so it looks like we have got ourselves a little bit of a raid coming together, which is nice.
Yes, we are looking for...
I don't know if they have all the players available.
I think they are a 30 man team.
There are a 29 man team at the moment,
but I imagine I'll be getting one more player in from...
Well, that has become 29 man,
but I assume they'll get one more person in from the guild
that is waiting for them to get in. I'm not sure how many splits they're going to be running.
Who's in here? You can find out more information with Explanation Mark splits in the chat if
you want to get involved. I'm just wondering which character is in here that is actually
here for the loot I wonder. Yeah, let's have a little spy. We can't because the guild...
Oh, there we are! We'll eliminate Gen.G. Hopeful is coming in on his mage.
I'm not sure if we're necessarily here for hopeful.
Well, it's got wall life in here, I'm not sure if that's on his main though.
Cannex is in on a druid, he might be going for round of gear honestly because if they're
going to be swapping to the double blood decay which it looks like then we want him
to be doing damage so we want him to have more item level because I know his item level
was kind of crap.
You did not have the highest eye level by any means so maybe this would be a way
of doing that. Yeah, and he's on Canucks 80, which is the character that he was bringing
to the...
Canucks 80.
That's the name of the character.
There were quite a bit of characters for the races, but it's ridiculous.
It's got a lot of that in hand, yeah.
Bring it back in.
But yeah, Canucks 80 was the character that was in on Brood Twister as a tank, so I
imagine that he is here to get some gear himself, so hopefully he can slam, but
running through a couple of splits we're going to be doing Sikran through to the Queen's Court
not Queen's Court the Silken Court excuse me and we're going to be doing that twice and then hopefully
with that done might need to do an answer I got to but then we'll be jumping into Mephik so
just getting some early morning chores out the way it looks like we're going to be doing some
comp changes after seeing how successful Liquid were with their kill of Brutwister.
Yeah so Liquid got the kill on Brew Twister at the end of their day so if Echo managed
to get Brew Twister down today that would put them in a very good standings. We will wait
and see as they are filling out some last minute gear and potentially preparing some
additional characters before going in because not only is Brew Twister quite a bit of an
an extreme DPS check, let's say, especially with the ads. We have Nexus, Princess Kai Vezer
up next, then Silicon Court, then Queen Ancerac. So that is a lot of preparation. And that's
where all of this is going to really come into fruition.
Yes, no, 100%. And one thing I'd like to talk about as well, Instant Dollars shoutouts
are a big fad of Instant Dollars. You know, they're a guild that don't do the craziest
most degenerate stuff. They're much more of like, you know, I don't think they're
day rating super hard or anything like that, but they do come in and consistently do very,
very well, especially in a major still as well. So then coming in and doing less pools
than echo, yet they got to what looked to be roughly the same point in the fight where
you're going into that last, um, I watched their best fall, um, yesterday and they
got to that last point where, um, where was it? Uh, just as you're going into face
three, uh, the third section. So they got to around that same area boss, a little
bit lower. It's very impressive in less pools. So they've got great eye level
Maybe they are doing some day reading, so maybe I'm a little bit wrong on that.
I should look into Instant Dollars again, because I don't know if they changed their strategy at all.
Instant Dollars are an NA team made up of ex-Race to World First Raiders who don't necessarily
want to have to do the splits and all the preparation that comes with the Race to
World First that can be very, very intense. They have a lighter schedule while also being
nominal gamers, so a very, very strong guild. I actually want to find that out.
Would it be I'm gonna Google it. I'm actually gonna look them up on Red Riot
I do actually want to see what they
Advertisers, I just want to because maybe they've changed, you know, that's a very very impressive item level
That's a very very impressive set of progress
So a little bit more time into it because even though let's say they don't want to put as much time as the race to world first
requires
They're still doing extremely well. So you could be doing some splits even though they're taking it slightly easier
So they do they do seven days seven nights excuse me they raid seven nights
They day raid the first Tuesday, so
But that's it
That's a very
That used to be quite a standard thing as well like as in doing a day raid on the first day
I know that quite a lot of even guilds that aren't going for crazy ranks
It's still something they like to do so very excited to go into the tier. It's just like, oh, yeah, let's screw it
day. I've seen some like two or
three day guilds on the first
day. Say yeah, we just
day right because we're really
excited for it. People put
off time of work and we all
get in and we just play the
hell out of the bosses. We
have great time. Um you know,
so, uh, if that's what you
want to do, then hell, yeah,
do it. Yeah, I know when the
uh, savage tear came out for
ever 14, the week one clear
was very highly sought after
that people get very excited
about it and people take
and we'll have that week one raiding as well.
So yeah, raiding is really fun and taking time for it.
Doing something you really enjoy is fantastic.
But yeah, instant dollars not necessarily wanting to commit
to the full day raiding every day.
Gamer's in the chat.
We need sick round helpers.
I assume they're slamming it for the next.
So if you can help out whilst this is going on,
they're also going to just be killing sick round
several times, because why the hell not?
If you can help out, do check out the group finder.
Just look for Echo in the raid group finder
come help out in the splits if you can if you got a character suitable for it and
you don't mind giving up the loot for Sikran indeed so shout outs if you can
help out awesome if not they're fair play but if you do find yourself chilling
out on this Friday morning or maybe in a work meeting so to speak then feel free
to pop along it's a nice and easy boss and yeah you'll be helping out the
going. Don't mean to brag but I have a 597 item level I think I can turn up and
show everyone how to play. In all fairness, I'll be absolutely fine. My character is 597 as well but I haven't really done anything this week yet.
Yeah I'm excited to do more Mythic Plus. I did some Miss yesterday. Me and Medic were doing some Mythic Plus because he's been learning that area of content. He's been
raiding for the first time picking up WoW playing it properly for the first time as well raiding and we did some Mythic Plus yesterday which is very nice.
Hmm guys, um, it's
Really because it's quite funny with medic as well
He's coming and he's got a lot of very really in-depth knowledge
But then there's some things as well where it's it kind of catch me off guard because it's something that we all take for granted
You know like even just instantly being able to see
For our glance, you know exactly what class that is based on the color in the raid frames
Just instantly and that that's something that I didn't even consider would be something that you know
That's someone who's a bit more like new to the game that might take you a little bit of time to kind of do it
It's something that very true. Yeah. It's like oh is that a hunter or is that a an evoker or is that a monk?
And I might well obviously that's that that and that but like that's not something if you come into the game fresh that you would
Easily be able to identify right?
So that's it's been fun fun learning some bits and pieces that brings you back to reality a little bit rather than me sat there
just like all in the weeds looking all these different logs and trying to work
everything out. It's good to reflect on. Yeah, it's very helpful because there's
actually so many people who watch the race who have never played well, who did
play well, may not have played for a while. There are so many out there
watching. So it's good to go through even the basics, let's say, that's
something that we're so ingrained with and have a little bit of something
we wouldn't necessarily think to talk about.
Especially because sometimes it is very important.
Sometimes we'll be talking shop and it's like
we're talking in some sort of code.
It's like we're speaking the dungeon journals one another.
Yeah, of course.
We're frothing that milk.
Oh man.
When?
We get to put an answer on.
We're just going to have that milk
all over the fucking screen
in all the corners. Damn, that's no good. That's no good at all. Ah, yes, just to fill
you in, if you are just shooting into the stream, welcome. We are getting ourselves
ready on this fine mythic day three morning, getting some split runs in as they are gearing
some characters after Liquid have very successfully taken down the brood twister, boss number
five with a comp that looks a little bit different to Echoes. So I think Echoes
playing a little bit of catch up, making sure that the characters that they bring
are going to be similar, or at least close to, or in a comparable fashion to Liquid's
comp. Whilst the boss has died, there's no point struggling with a comp that is very,
very different, probably best to pivot and make sure that you've got a comp that will
be able to kill the boss. So they're going to be looking to get two blood decays on
the go, probably get Canak's a little bit of loot because he's moving away from
that Guardian Druid more towards the Balanced Druid for this particular fight. So lots
of little bits and pieces to do, and that's what they're spending their morning doing
before we jump into Brute Twister, in which I imagine won't be much longer than around
45 minutes or so. Maybe in an hour, we will see.
Yeah, I hope so. I think, I don't know if this is just because I've watched them and
played it, but I feel like Brute Twister is just such a great fight. It's such a spectacle,
especially when I was watching Liquid pull it, well, it would have been the early
I think they killed it around 5.30 a.m. R time. Yeah, I was right at the end of their day
It was really weird. I woke up in the middle of like I woke up this morning at like fight well at 5 30 ish
I can't remember exactly what it was and I was like, oh
As a caster, I don't know if anyone else is like this anyway. The first thing I do when I wake up is I check red
RIO and
See the recap because it's all very good up-to-date news
Um, on it if you don't want to especially if you've just woken up
You don't necessarily want to watch the shroom straight away
Just have to kind of like decipher things so I was like, oh, do I wake up? Do I check it literally?
I don't know something in me. It's like I think something's happened. I checked my phone two minutes ago liquid
I killed it. I was like, wow crazy stuff
absolutely mad that it is
It dites in such a long amount of time though hundred and twenty
120 pulls I know fifth boss 120 pulls what is this I wonder if converse is
gonna be anything like it because it feels like once you've got a set pattern
for how you deal with the ads it's a much more repetitive fight it depends on how
rough the removal of the death marks masks are you know that red aura around
the ads it depends on how difficult that element of it is it does feel that
once maybe you have a strategy in place it is purely a numerical fight
where you just need to do some really big pump. So I guess we'll find out as to how tough that is.
If the damage check is extremely tight, which it is, I think it adds up for everybody in the
raid needing to do around 1.3 or 1.4 million damage across the whole raid in order to make
that DPS check. I have to double check that. There was talks of that. Yeah, that is a lot,
Right, especially in the intermission where you have the shadowy blaze lines going out
You have the pizza slices to try and optimize damage in such a chaotic moment of the fight
I think is where a lot of the progression is going to be
Potentially yeah, no, I think you're right. Just being able to
Check your details mid-pull. Yeah, very important that fight is
It feels like a fight that's actually gonna be relatively easy to see the enrage on because there is no damage check in that fight
Like if you think about Brood Twister as an example, you can't see the enrage unless you get rid of all of the adds on the way to it, you know what I mean?
Whereas in theory, if you just walk around correctly, the boss could be at 100% and you could be very happily seeing the boss do the enrage, right?
You don't need theory to even touch us.
If you just want to focus purely on movement, purely on that sort of execution to make sure that you deal with the mechanics correctly,
you could go in there with two tanks and 18 healers if you wanted to, and get to the end of the fight and see exactly how you wanted to play things out.
Obviously they wouldn't do that. That's a waste of you know, there's no reason not to start optimizing your damage boss learning the fight
But that's why you know
Damage isn't necessarily going to matter until we start seeing that in rage making sure that we got a proper strategy that really
Takes into account the crazy high health of the boss
I think is going to be the number one thing that the goats are going to need to struggle with because as I say if they just kind of
Yell at that and not yellow if they go in with a oh dear. Oh
There will be a venom wave
Slowly going across all of the raid. Oh
Spirit link coming in panic
Good buttons activate the bosses on 2% so it shouldn't have too much of a
An effect across the rain 9 a.m. Russian ans here in Germany
Hell of a lot of grief
Yes, sorry. I was I was rambling
With the kind of there's a fight like I there's a right the boss like you could see the entire fight
but obviously right at the very end when you hit that soft enrage, odd enrage, you are all gonna die
because the boss obviously is too high HP right, but you can see you can get to that point in the fight
whereas for example with Brew Twister, if you don't make a damage check the ad is gonna live
and you are not going to be able to live to see further into the fight because the ads are gonna
overwhelm you, they're gonna chase you down or you're gonna just run out of
cooldowns really. The spider tank adds lasting too long, they're just gonna absolutely annihilate
your tank. The damage dealers may die from being infested. You have the worm casts that
you have to take care of because you can't move them. So if you are lacking in damage
there, you're not gonna see further into the fight. So you're absolutely right.
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see if you can just once you got phase one down
and you get that very, very clean and then you get the intermission of the
the stylist's night down. Very, very clean on Kyvazeth, whether or not it's something
that, oh, that's clicked now. Now we just repeated two more times and hopefully the boss
is dead. Or if it is, oh, the second phase one is really difficult. That third phase
one when we're on that last cycle of the boss's mechanics, it really ramps up. Because
in theory, we are getting more and more assassin adds each time. But on mythic, it looks
like you're starting with a lot of assassin adds. I'm not even sure if the number
increases. Something that we'll have to have a look at.
You have all of them. It could be a case of on Heroic, you get one additional ad each
time. On Mythic you have all of the ads, but the mark increases each time.
You are right, the mark increases. It does increase each time, at least it did on Mythic
difficulty on the PCR. So you might be right actually. Start of all the ads and then
the amount of red masks, death masks, decreases.
Yeah, I could call them the masks, but they're masks. The ads have a red mask
and you have to run those through the boss.
animation of it is way easier to see than it was on the PTR as well. Keep calling it PTR, it was the beta
banal I mean during the testing. Yeah. 100%. Well as they are making their way over towards the next
boss, I don't know about you but I could do a little bit of a refreshment myself. So let's throw
it over and have a little bit of a listen in with Wave. We'll be back in a few moments to
finish off these splits of you and hopefully be jumping into Brew Twisted. Do not go anywhere,
I'll be right back. I actually need this beauty on my shadow face
Can you guys try to invite us
How the hell did we get these guys are they not from upstairs?
I think so that's interesting
In the meantime I can quickly explain.
Then we put in four world markers down and you just need to look at what mark you're getting.
And then you just walk to your mark primer.
For the egg breaks you get a little purple circle around you.
Besides that, I mean the boss goes to one of the catalyst or whatever you call it.
There's going to be some dodges on the ground.
And if you get a big circle on you, you need to walk out of the raid.
And then you need to get this built by healers.
Make sure the healers, especially the helpers, don't randomly disperse.
If you see someone outside by himself, you can disperse.
But don't just do a wait off the wait train.
Like look around, do it.
You can also remove it if you have any kind of freedom yourself.
But make sure you don't hit other people.
Then they get rid of it.
And the small skitterlings, the spawns from the small legs,
make sure that everyone slams those.
Stun them, especially, slow them.
Kill them quickly.
Then everything becomes so much cleaner.
So we're gonna get web soon you can already pre-spread and I watch feed here after this area
We can get our first egg breaks blues under the boss can be hard to see because he's fucking chunky
Then you see red purple and green on the right side gas make sure you look around go through your mark
Look above your head and go to your mark blue under the boss demon hunter
Now get ready to slam the smallies done them slow them everything
and get out with the webs here and make sure we kick the worms as well don't
instantly dispel where it is dispel immediately there never do that again
keep interrupting rages there's new world markets already and see and go out
with these and now egg breaks are coming look at the marks do again close to the
We can go far, someone just ink him over there, here like a local.
Yeah, guys, it's not okay.
Anyway, slam them, yeah.
We can do all on this one, but still.
Get out with the website, the spells.
The spatter-sized team.
Yeah.
I'm marking here.
I guess there's four it's a massive line you see it and it's gonna be a lot of
And if you can rod these X now look
You see green on the very far right side left behind the boss go go
Mythical quit behind the boss go other way
Come on eat them over there
And now we need kicks we need yeah
Yeah
Build a small list and then range is killed or like focus the worms
Get rid of the worms on both sides
Okay, weps now we can get out with these webs
Max also up you can already see it blue under the boss again can be hard to see because he's fucking big
You see purple and red a little bit to our right and then green is like in the corner on the pink
spread out and look above your head and go to your mag immediately can you convert this runner go to your mag star guys
very good
yeah good job
web's coming as well soon you can already pre-spread and get out with them
stun and slow the parasite guys every now
don't get infested guys do not get hit by the item under the boss if you are fixated
We're going to get an infest coming soon, kill them here, finish these parasites and
then we're going to switch over to the other side.
You see the little square that I just made?
Look at the marks.
It brings them coming soon, make sure you go to them.
Look up your head, go to your mug immediately.
Go, go, go.
No, no, blue, the motor, you're already good.
Go back, go back.
You see the small X? Perfect.
Alright, it's fun these small X's.
Make sure we kick the worm as well.
We're gonna get webs here.
You can already spread. Get out with this.
Get them.
One cross menu.
So everything is keep over.
Yeah. I want no hero plays.
You have a mark and you go on top of it
and you stand still.
Don't react based on what other people say.
Alright.
We see purple under the boss.
Well, like behind them and red is in the corner.
Green, you will be ready to back up in case someone fucks up, okay?
Go, go, go.
We're looking good.
Go out with the webs.
We'll kick the worm.
On those.
Moon, you fucking bro.
Go out with the webs, they have pre-spread.
Always needed the moon, give us your line.
You guys are all who?
So mean.
They are, you said you're broken. You're only.
You are so mean.
Fish is being mean.
Alright.
I've had enough of this body next to me
What
And we have good damage guys, the next egg breaks just don't hit anything
Just go to start hit rate members, of course, but don't break any eggs
It's a little bit outside
good job guys nice time for nexus princess easy
in a second
Its fucking dark semen ability
Goddamn
I'm pomegranate but
With the ability of purpose
oh that you should lucky healer I think
You need lock a healer
Another hunter?
I was asked to come in the hunter.
Five-eating, then, yeah.
First?
Yes.
Sonic safety?
Yeah.
We just live, I guess.
Yeah.
You want a fifth?
I guess, I mean...
So, that is the Santa your main number, so why you come in the hunter?
It's potential we're all single-footed, I guess.
Single-sucked river.
That's a cat.
That's a river.
What am I hearing, then?
What have we done?
I'm trying to get on my knees.
One for one boss and then it's out.
Every boss has the thing.
Yeah, she doesn't have like two of each.
You just fucking advantage when every boss has like eight men.
Whoo-hoo!
Actually, no.
For safety, but we can also try at once.
Should be for safety.
We're not gonna lose for damage.
Main mechanic at this, similar as in normal.
If you get a little purple circle at the beginning of each phase, you go to one of the world
monkeys with that.
The difference on the RUIC compared to normal is that when you get hit by that, like 10
seconds later you're going to be shooting out balls.
So what you want to do is you want to stay outside, wait until the balls explode and
then walk into the race.
If you get the first mechanic where you spawn the copies, the portals will also
spawn as you shoot out the balls.
So it's important that you're standing in between the world markers
Because you're obviously going to get dragged by the portals so you don't get dragged through them and die
You want to be dragged in between the gap?
Let's summon the aggobomb as well. Yeah
Why is that why is that?
Taker mechanic is the
Red arrows if you get a red arrow line you need to walk to the edge that's shooting to you and then face it out
from the red
Same thing there if you get hit by that line
You will also shoot out balls, so people that get that on them stay out, wait until the
balls have been shot and then come back into the raid.
Right, I'm doing quick extension, right.
Uh-uh.
Rebobs stamina for our new boy.
Bandit's coming.
If you get this on you, go to one of the world markers.
Go, go, go.
And if people have just got that, make sure you stay out.
You're gonna shoot out balls in a second.
If you stand in between the gaps and don't get dragged into the portals, we're gonna
get rifts here and ball dodges.
Don't get sucked in and now we're gonna get the dashes. You look at a big fucking red arrow
You go to that ad you face it away from the rate. Go go go look at it
Remember you need to stay out as well wait until the balls have been shot pinky. You also need to go out
Munch in as well over the broccoli
Yeah, don't go into the rate before they've been shut out. Okay, whatever the rest of it was
Don't get dragged into the portals here when we're gonna get dashes again
Look for the red arrow go to the app is it away from the rate?
Go, go, go.
Watch out.
Make sure you stay out as well.
Wait until the balls have been shot.
And then come back in afterwards.
A lot of dodges here.
Watch balls.
You're going to get portals again.
Don't get sucked in.
Yeah.
All right.
Now we're going to go into submission.
There's going to be some pizza slices you need to dodge.
And if you get a big blue line on you,
don't move too much.
Only dodge if necessary.
Stand still and press it personal if you get it.
Okay?
You can start off the face with MZ.
And what you can rally.
Grisly, you can put darkness down.
And Ignition, you can aim set as well.
As you're dying to the shit.
Holy, haha, holy, you can all master it now.
Don't use any resters.
Are we gonna get phantoms here?
To get one of these, go to one of the world markers.
Make sure you stay out as well.
It's also a good time to press it personally if you get that on you.
Stay out for the balls.
Don't get dragged into the portals.
Dutch balls. We're gonna get the dashes again, look for the red arrow, go to your ad, face
it away from the raid. Go, go, go. Face it away from the raid. Make sure you stay out
as well. Wait until the balls have been shot before coming back in. Dutches here, a lot
of Dutches and balls. You can get Jenkins Enking, don't get sucked in. Dashes again,
look for the red arrow, face it away from the raid.
through the raids, watch out, everybody who got hit gets out.
Yeah, everyone that got hit, get out.
As a personal as well.
In Maduro you can rally here, the health bot.
Now watch, a lot of shitty portals, okay?
Watch out, play safe here.
Do not get so dragged in.
Intermission again, same as before,
don't move too much with the blue lines,
you get it on you, press it first.
I mean, you can AM-set here.
All the shamans and druids,
she's vigil and A.J. here.
I'm Ignit, and you died.
The press person is here to drop the law.
Hello and welcome back to the Race to the World.
First here in the Narrabah Palace.
Day 3 of Mythic.
My name is Alex from PapalCV and joining me is the wonderful Jordan.
As you are joining us with some splits.
There we go, that's the noise we want to hear.
Yes, no, they are doing any few splits right here in the morning.
Which is fair play as they have been shown some comps that they...
Well, obviously, they could have killed Brutwisser.
And they did it with a compli- I don't think Echo was entirely ready to copy
So that they have, they're going out the way now, getting a bit of gear on Canucks
Maybe getting some gear on Meras as well on his blood decay
So we'll see exactly what their plans are, we don't know exactly what's going on
They haven't told us nothing, we're purely guessing
But one thing we're not guessing about is that we do have a wonderful, wonderful man
Over on the Maxwell analysis desk, joining us as well is Mr. Jeef
How's it going?
Good morning!
Good morning, make-up today, unfortunately
Aww...
You always look pretty anyway. Thank you so much. But after yesterday, I'll never be happy again unless I've got makeup on well
In which case we could just do it again
Now I hope that you guys will forgive but I thought that since
Maybe we're doing splits that people have seen before and are particularly interested in it'd be good time for some healer school
And we know from yesterday that chat prefers by a margin of three to one
Healer talk over mage talk that it's true. That was a name. That's true
That was a poll you guys voted since you like healer talk. We're gonna do some healer talk
We've been seeing preservation of ochre is absolutely blasting on the meter's doing an un
Godly amount of healing. Oh, yeah, you know the inverse moment
So I thought I'd give a little introduction to exactly how that works
Before I pull up the logs, which I've got for production to show you guys in a little bit
I want to give you kind of the pieces of the puzzle
that are all working together. The first is Preservation of Oakers coming into this expansion,
got Hero Talents along with everyone else. One of those Hero Talents setups is called Flame Shaper.
Two pieces of puzzle present in that Flame Shaper Healer talent. It gives you two charges of a
spell called in Gulf, which heals a single target for a considerable amount of healing,
increased by the number of hots on it. That doesn't really matter. The other thing it does
is that if you have Dream Breath on the target you cast in Gulf On, it consumes four seconds
of the Dream Breath Hot and explodes that based on how much healing was in that Dream Breath Hot
onto everyone around the target you cast in Gulf On. That's where the AoE healing is coming from.
However, because the healing of that in Gulf is based on how much the Dream Breath was healing
for, there's another piece going on which is that you can buff your Dream Breath by
verdant embraces. There's a talent called Kalliviasera which increases the healing of your
dream breath if you cast verdant embrace first, which is otherwise basically just a single target
triage heal. So the pieces here come together, you cast verdant embrace, then you cast dream
breath, then you engulf the target that you have dream breath on and it blows up a lot of healing.
Now those are the basic pieces of the puzzle. I want to show this in action because it
actually gets very very clever, okay? Okay. Here we have on the uh, Warcraft Logs if
productive to pull it up. Just a demonstration of Zotzi popping all of this
maybe you also want to do 4 million hps and I could make that number bigger if
we came into the part where he's this is including setup because I wanted to show
you cast this is the part with his engulfs and we're looking at seven
million hps about 20 or so seconds show the majority of which is a hundred
and 13 million from engulf, which is larger than any healing cooldown in the game. How does he do it?
I can explain how. So what we're going to do is we're going to go here into the cast and what I
want to show you is some extremely clever tech, starting with a talent called stasis.
What stasis does is it stores your next three spells cast for 30 seconds. And it's important
important to note the verdant embrace cooldown is only 18 seconds.
It stores your next three casts for 30 seconds, you can pop it any time of that 30 seconds
and then it sends them all out.
What are we going to store?
He's going to cast a verdant embrace before the stasis because we don't want to store
that.
Then we're going to cast a dream breath to, which is buffed by the verdant embrace
and all he really cares about is hitting himself with the dream breath.
Anyone else will do as well but of course he's going to hit himself naturally, can't
and he's going to engulf himself because that way he knows he's engulfing a target with dream breath.
So now that he's got the verdant embrace which then buffs the dream breath that he casts in Stasis,
he casts his engulfs.
Now that does this first little bit of engulf healing during the second or first wave of the healing absorbance.
Now he's going to set it up so that he can pop another blast on the next wave of healing absorbance.
How does he do it? The clever part here is that he's gonna verdant embrace again
Before he pops the stasis here that that's because the first spell he cast after stasis with dream breath and this works
Because verdant embrace buffs your next dream breath it counts with the stasis dream breath. I actually went and verified this
This is the you say is
Buff yeah, this is the one from his first burden brace he verdant brace again and the dream breath that he doesn't cast the
Stasis auto cast for him gets that buff massively increasing the
size of that subsequent stasis proc dream breath which is huge because then he also gets the stasis
to pop two subsequent engulfs automatically which were otherwise uncooled down for this enormous
burst of healing following there so some very clever tech storing a dream breath plus two engulfs
in a stasis to get an additional dream breath plus two engulfs following the pop of the stasis
and buffing each of those prior to Stasis cast with a verdant embrace to make the dream
breath larger. The larger the dream breath, the larger the explosion from the engulf consuming
that pot to blow up and heal everyone in the raid and getting this ridiculous 113 million
healing worth of engulfs with just two engulf casts duplicated through the stasis. Stasis
on a 90 second cooldown with two evokers means you can use it every 45 seconds.
Damn.
That is an incredible amount of healing and that line up so nicely.
I feel so much more learned now.
I'm cleverer.
It still feels like very much that the avocas are still combo based then, even with this
flame build, what was it called? The flame shape build?
Flame shape.
Yeah, so you're still doing a series of combinations, combos to make it so you're getting these
crazy, crazy strong builds out just so happens that you're putting dream breath on yourself.
If you have two engulf targets, we're engulfing two people, one of them's on yourself, who's
the other engulf going on out of interest?
Yourself.
But that can only, it consumes only four seconds of it.
Oh it consumes four seconds of it, you're entirely right.
You have to consume the entire thing.
I thought it removed the entire thing.
Oh so if you can just double proc it on yourself, oh that's easy then, you can do that every
single time.
Yeah.
Nice.
It's fairly easy to set up because you're automatically going to get the tree both
on yourself, you're casting everything at yourself, you don't have to worry about
who you're picking for your target.
The only hard part is setting it up, kind of like a disc priest used to do, and
still does in some ways, but make sure that the sequence is correct. If you
stasis before the Verdon embrace, you're gonna lose one of your engulfs because
it only stores three spells. If you don't Verdon embrace before your dream
breath, then it's not gonna be buffed and your gulfs are gonna be much smaller.
So it's a little bit, you need, it's a little bit, you know, nitpicky. You have to do it right.
But if you do it right, and it's not terribly difficult to execute, then
you get an enormous amount of healing as your reward. In between, their healing
looks very different, right? This is a combo-based setup that's only
possible because of that hero talent. In between, their healing looks a lot
more like it did in Dragonflight. You're applying echo to as many people as you can
and then duplicating your biggest heals through the echo. You have echo casts
and then temporal anomaly, the big golden ball we see flying through the air,
also applying an echo and then you can cast a verdant embrace, heals everyone
with echo, you can cast a spirit bloom which is very powerful on its own. You can
cast reversion which then heals everyone with echo. These are your bread
and butter outside of the I'm gonna heal all that's needed for the next
20 seconds combos. It's insane how much healing it does. It seems like
Well I thought it was going to be one of those healing specs that just kind of busted in a
30 man situation.
You know back when you used to run salvation, I don't know if you used to roll salvation
on Holy Priest but they used to be the kings of splits just because of how much healing
they would do and then obviously everyone switched over to this.
So it's good to see the preservation still kicking ass even in 20 man content.
Absolutely.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
So much healing requirement as well.
So it's very cool to see that a little bit of tech.
I was reluctant to pull you guys away from Splits, but I'm glad that you gave me the opportunity to
break in on that extremely important content and talk about the healing happening in the raid.
We're going to continue to see it for a while, but now I can let all of you return to the important content.
Splits.
Hell yeah.
I really do appreciate that.
Thank you, Jesse. We've run the Max Role Analysis Desk as we are returning over to the Splits.
I was wondering how that build worked. No meme.
Yeah, because you play.
I've done Cromiwarden, which is a really, really fun build because your glide ability,
you know, where you shift over and you can cast on the move, that turns into a blink,
which is very neat, but I haven't gone into the flame shape build just yet.
That's something to look into.
It looks very, very strong for Raid.
I don't know if you're going to be necessarily using it too much in Method Plus.
Who knows? Who knows?
I'm getting golf for everyone.
I don't know how strong in golf is in a five man setting, to be honest.
things to learn this game is so deep so many different aspects of it going on
the iceberg of wow oh yes it does go on for a long old time but as you can see
here we are practicing on heroics yes we have got a little bit of a heroic
split going on right now the group doing their very best to get through this
as soon as possible do not worry we will be going into mythic today I have been
told that hopefully they're looking to have maybe Brutus are down by lunch
time which would be good news for us considering that's when we finish our
shift so it'll be nice to see them all start. At least get some balls in!
Please one ball! But no it is one of those things where it comes to the race
well first what character preparation and making sure your characters are as
strong as they possibly can be is going to be the thing that takes
over the finish line it's not the most fancy it isn't the most exciting
part of the race but it is a very very important aspect of it so we're
going to be doing this as soon as we possibly can. I do believe that there are some splits
still going on production. Do we actually need more helpers for sick round runs? Okay we haven't
heard anything from just wait so perhaps those are all filled up at the moment but if you
are about and just kind of hanging around in game maybe flying around a main city,
what's the name of the new main city? I keep forgetting your name.
Dawnigal.
Dawnigal actually if we're just flying around in circles there which is something that
I basically do all the time.
There's no fountain to run around in circles.
You've run around that fountain in, um, Baldrackerns.
Yeah.
I just flew all the time.
Oh, yes.
So I had a flu, but then I would accidentally crash into the sort of multiple times.
Or just press, uh, jump up against a tree, which has happened a lot.
Medic will look over at my monitor and I'm just in a tree again.
It's like, um, did you try Dragon or, uh, Skyriding again?
Yeah.
I love Skyriding.
It's one of the surprisingly fun feature, like they brought into the game.
I thought they'd be like, oh yeah, whatever, but no, great!
Very, very good.
Very engaging. I think it's nice to have the choice of regular flying, just in case you
want to just put your auto fly on and go FK. I know you can use the flight point,
but sometimes there are places you want to go that aren't necessarily close to a flight point.
So it's nice having the option where you can just fly or you can have your flight be a little
bit more engaging, a bit more of a mini-game, and use the sky riding.
Oh, you're entirely right. It's good fun. It's a nice thing to have. The way that they
incorporated it into the dungeon in, what's that, Dragonfly even? What's the name of the
dungeon? Oh, what? Not good offensive?
Yes, not good offensive. I thought it was, you know, pretty good. It was not
necessarily, you know, it was just flying from one place to another, but I think
the way they've done it in the Dawnbreaker is even better. Like the fact that you
do it during combat come up and go back down in a way that isn't like you're
losing out on damage because the boss goes immune at that point anyway so you just
a quick fly up and a quick fly back down and the way you have to navigate this
space I think you know it's pretty cool it's not so bad.
Ways to knock a defensive, my mid-air boss tank didn't
any of the glyphs was dragon riding at the time.
Oh no.
He would just be like I'll be there in a second, don't worry.
Summon him. Just Summon him.
He's carrying it all back.
Oh no.
Nah, I don't want to do that. I'm not getting the glyphs. I'm just uh, yeah, Summon.
They think this group, this is Jinji's group, isn't it? Yes.
This group has indeed done everything apart from the Silkencourt. I think this is the last boss that they're going to be jumping into for this run.
Whether or not that means this is going to be the last run and then we're going into Mythic, I do not know.
Ooh, yeah.
But they do need to, they do need to, you know,
So keep the pace in mind. Yes, of course, the whole race is a marathon as you very rightfully
put a marathon, but not a sprint. You know, we have to focus on the long term goals of
the raid, but
Especially if they need to pull out unexpected classes and clumps, right?
But I'm keeping a pace and keeping close to, you know, liquid and liquid progress
This is obviously something that is maybe not super important right this second
It's not our liquid are going straight into the last boss, but you know
It's good for morale knowing that you are keeping up at least, you know
If it's very important that echo do get brute twisted down today if they don't manage to get it down today
Then we're gonna be in a bit of despair
I imagine unless we spend the whole day doing splits and doing prep in which case
That's a different strategy, but if we do follow liquids overall like sort of
pace or we do the very similar actions to what Liquid did and we still don't get
the boss down then obviously we're going to be in a little bit of trouble
something we definitely want to avoid we want to be doing our best to be
keeping up and maybe overtake I do believe that any time that Echo has
got a kill above Liquid they actually won that particular race as well not
like as in there a few percentage points ahead as in the actual bosses
died so I think in Sanctum of Domination that was Payne-Smith, they killed Pa-
The point where they overtake. Yes, although they even got overtaken again afterwards but the fact
that they got Payne-Smith before, there was a point where Echo was on top, an entire boss ahead
of Liquid has always led to Echo eventually winning that tier anyway. Doesn't mean that
they have to do that, obviously in a major still Echo at no point overtaking Liquid in terms
of boss kills only at the very very end when they managed to squeak by but it would be cool
who knows if Ekko managed to get Brew Twistedown in good time they can spend some real solid hours
on Kyveza if Kyveza is in a killable state then who knows we get to see what strategy they use
we might be looking at a very very tight race maybe even a little bit of overtaking
action which could be very exciting yeah so Liquid just ended their day three of Mythic
They got brood twister down in the evening their time
So let's see if we're talking about that same matching pace if echo can get brood twister down at the very end of their day
Three then that would be that would be very good for them
But as we're saying it's not always an indication of how things are going right in a mid-race ill echo did
Spend a little bit longer on tindrel, but then ended up
up winning that race getting
fracked down first. So there is a
lot back and forth between the guilds
and it really
could go anyway. We're only on boss 5
it could be the Echo Clear Chyvesa
much faster and then Liquid
Clear, Silk and Court much quicker
and that back and forth makes it
very thrilling. I love seeing the guilds
battle out makes the race
so much fun. Yeah of course
Incendos right now are ahead
of Echo even but I imagine
So, Instant Dollars normally doing incredibly well at the very beginning of a tier as they
do Sam on through, but as their day raiding comes to an end and they're only doing those
night raids, they do generally fall back behind a little bit just purely because of the time
put in.
Of course, Instant Dollars, an amazing, amazing group.
But Jesse, as we're going into the Silken Court pool, which we've seen on Heroic,
a multitude of times, it seems that you have something for us.
Well, I thought we could continue school if we wanted.
I don't want to interrupt the heroic splits, but you guys are really good at talking about more healer things instead.
I know that's a...
What's worse?
Heal it all for splits!
For the 10% of chat that enjoys this content, I think we're through.
Potter, I'll get cozy.
Yeah, we need Blanky time.
Okay, Blanky time.
I'll pull the blocks to look at again as we go through this.
I'm ready.
This is interesting, right?
This entire comp on the Brew Twister is really, really interesting.
Because typically on a hard boss you're looking at extraordinary high value assigned to damage
reduction cooldowns.
One of the reasons why Holy Paladin and Discipline Priest have been dominant for so many expansions,
because the primary way that Blizzard has made encounters very difficult is by having
dangerous overlaps of extraordinarily spiky damage that you require Devotionora or
Mastery, Barriers, AMZs, DR to survive, and that's what we've seen on most bosses
most of the time.
Twister is really interesting, and you're seeing a comp with no Disabled Priest. Everyone's playing Holy instead with no Holy Paladin
Then it's playing Rhett instead. What are we doing without those cooldowns?
It's because I think Blizzard was actually fairly clever with this boss.
Most of the damage you take in this fight is actually fairly consistent. We can look at that on the logs
I've pulled up a chart of the damage taken and you see this very almost
Flat-ish line hovering around the 5 million mark until everything goes wrong when they die around 5 million damage taken per second
But we know from the healing that we're spiking up to 15 million HPS periodically.
Why is that? Obviously, because of those healing absorbes, which can't be mitigated.
Part of the damage is coming in threatening your life at all times.
But the reason it's threatening is because you have your entire health bar covered in a healing absorb.
You can't recover any health while you're being hit by this relatively light damage.
So mitigation has massively reduced value, and pure HPS has massively increased value.
Here you can see the actual healing absorbs being applied. This is absorbed healing, of course,
most of that being healed through consumed flame, which is what the engulf flame is doing. It's
consuming the dream breath and exploding around for healing. That's how they're healing off those
large healing zones. But the fact that it's largely flat line damage, massively reduces the
value of those DRs, making the ore mastery unnecessary, making the barrier from the discipline
priest relatively unnecessary and prioritizing big burst healing. And this happens actually
throughout the course of the entire fight. This is the debuff application from the three
times the boss goes to the canister and starts ingesting that black goo, doing huge waves
of massive healing absorbs where we see those really big spikes in absorbed healing, as
you would expect. But what it also does is it empowers the boss with a buff that
causes her to every seven and a half seconds send out the black puddles and shoot out
more healing absorbs and damage to everyone. This is the healing absorbs from the big waves
during Injust Canisters. These are the healing absorbs through the entire fight. And what this
means is you have this constant battle where you need to heal these healing absorbs off
and DR doesn't do anything to mitigate the size of those healing absorbs. It's just about raw
HPS. So we have a very difficult boss fight that's one of the rare boss fights that I've
ever seen where raw HPS is actually significantly more valuable than DR, which historically
most top end raiders would say, you know, an ounce of prevention with more than a pound of
cure of DRS King, but not on this fight. Yeah, that's really interesting because we talk a lot
about damage profiles, right? We need some a we do we need priority damage? Do we need funneled?
Do we need single target damage? But very rarely do we discuss, let's say healing profiles?
Do we need damage reduction, marriage prevention? We need to be proactive or do we just need
raw throughput healing? So that's really interesting. Yeah, you're entirely right.
But throughout history, always DRs, or like never output, like that's why Resto Druids and Holy Priests for the longest time were quite rare to see in like super, super top end because they weren't a disc priest, they weren't a paladin, they weren't a shaman with their immense use of great, great cooldowns, you know.
about cooldown healing, all about big DRs. It is interesting to see them bringing in way
more healing absorbs. It's a very good point indeed. So no, thank you for that, Jesse.
That was very good to see. That is a lot of debuffs as well. And then three healing,
God bless them. Constantly blinking in these debuffs at all times. It's very scary, but
making it work. Yeah. Oh man. So as you can see, making their way towards the very,
very end of this run now getting that last stun on Takaj. Have we got to come up with
a name for this mob, the Skynespinner? It's Takaj, right? That's how you would pronounce
it, Takaz?
Steven Susan.
Steven Susan. One spider, one crab.
I mean, we could go team grab, team spider.
That's not too bad.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
One of them is a scarab blow.
I like Steve personally.
Who's Steve?
Anubarash.
Anubarash. Anubarash is Steve. Yes. And Susan. Susan is Steven. Susan. All we're going to do is...
He confused me. He's got naming things. Confusing the hell out of everybody. Oh man. They'll find us first what we're here for, right?
Absolutely. I like Crab and Spider. I think Anubarash would be the Crab and then...
Susan. Susan would be the one.
I was trying to find the name on the UI.
She's not here at the moment, is she? No, she's not.
I was going to have the web priestess because that was...
Oh, that sounds fancy.
That was her name in the files, web priestess.
When I was looking for someone saying the mob's name,
so we had a reference.
to Kaz, to Kaz?
Yeah.
I mean, it feels like I'm saying it wrong.
And the thing is I'm going to keep saying it as if I'm waiting for some sort of feedback,
but I have no way of looking at chat right now, so, don't know.
Here's what it is.
I feel like they're just going to say no, no matter what we say anyway.
That tends to be how it goes.
Susan to Kaz and Steve and Ubarash.
Oh, they may, they may like that.
That's fine.
Steven, Susan, scariest bosses in the entirety of Nerubah Palace.
I heard in the lore, because I watched Novel's video, that's the way I interact with the
lore.
It's to be fair, same.
But these guys don't like each other.
Yeah, and it's also really interesting, so I heard that little piece of lore, and
the kind of bread and butter of this fight is how you're counteracting, let's say
they're, let's just put it in terms of, let's say that that's the ultimate
ability of that boss where it charges into the wall, dealing a huge amount of damage to
the rain, you have to stop it with the web. So you're kind of counteracting each other's
alts with abilities from the other boss. So they're built in that law thematically into
the fire and I always appreciate that. They're like bickering and they want to be the
big cheese.
I love cheese.
This is why Novel does the lore videos, not I.
Yeah, it's like, yes of course and then you have the penultimate boss where they're fighting
to be the big cheese.
Well, that's the lore.
That's something worth fighting for.
Is it something worth fighting for?
Absolutely.
Well, fair play.
Fair play indeed.
Looks like they are able to get this boss down.
Hopefully this means the end of this particular split.
Let's find out what do we get spymasters. Can we look at Kalex to see how he looks?
See if he's a happy pup because I do believe his main character is in here.
Some good off pieces. There is a couple trinkets but I don't think that
authority is necessarily anything too exciting. I think maybe pick some little
pieces here and there. Yeah you can see that he's definitely picking up
some bits and pieces. Not the end of the world. Hopefully he's got something. We will find
out. We will have to find out exactly what it was because yesterday I think when he was
in the run he was like 6.14 item level or something. It was really quite sad so getting
him a little bit more item level should do him some good for sure. Yes because it
looks like we are indeed going to need Cannex in as a boom kit. Which is for some reason
a strange thing this too. You can see how many items that cannex is getting here. I think
this is an automatic, we're funneling to cannex run. So getting this character as strong as
possible makes sense as we've all been needing him in for this particular encounter. There
we go, you can see all the loot flooding in towards him.
There you go!
He's getting traded for poop 4. Good stuff.
Yeah, very nice. So I don't know if they're going to be doing Queen Ansaric after
of these because they haven't done Queen Encerok yet on Heroic.
Looking at all the other players in this facility here, the SK Gaming Magenta facility, looking
at all the pobs, I don't see anyone starting up any other bit of content right now.
Like Mero's at the moment, he's at the end of a dungeon, same with Wolf who's just
at the end of a dungeon, it looks like they're not desperate to restart.
Wolf's?
Can we look at Wolf's character?
Oh, he's lost.
He's got two shovels.
It's literally so good.
It's so good.
His little inflatable Merlot ring.
The mushroom hat.
It looks like a knock-off.
It's so dull.
A knock-off.
That was the little creature in Mario.
I can't remember the name.
Toad?
Toad! Yeah, little knock-off Toad!
Oh, hell yeah!
Yeah, that's like a Toad that you get in the market.
I didn't even think about that!
Yeah.
Exactly, you know, imagine that you like kind of squeeze the belly and they make like a cute noise or they say like one of their favorite lines.
Queak.
But if you do it with this character, it's just like the sounds of the damned.
Just coming out.
It's being the sounds of the damned and it's like they're going into another mythic class, Alex.
They might be doing this for trading purposes.
Oh!
Oh!
You're right!
They do poppin' here to do a little bit of trading.
Yeah, because Horde and Alliance can't trade each other in the open world, you have to be in an instance.
Oh no, we're in Finder.
Oh, we find it is up indeed! So we are going to be doing one more run.
Is it for a full run or is it just the last boss? We will find out soon.
We'll be getting those done. It is what it is. I hope you guys are happy joining us for the long haul on this one.
Buckle in!
Buckle in and buckle up.
and buckle out and buckle down.
There's a lot of buckling.
Gotta be very careful how I say that.
Yep, so what are we talking about?
Buckles?
Yep.
We've done one split, Alex.
Yep.
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
I mean, we love having a bit of fun because this is an MMO and there is a large amount
of character preparation outside of the MMO genre, you kind of just plug and play, let's
say.
But with MMOs, you do have to maintain your character, make sure that it is fully equipped
as it possibly can be, especially with gear being such a huge part in progression
as well.
For sure.
think because there's been some talk about maybe putting the race world first like on a
tournament realm as an example you get rid of the whole like differences in start time
you know you can make it so the bosses are built specifically or maybe tuned specifically for
these guys what do you what do you feel about that as an idea so how I feel about that is
is this whole event is a community put on event.
Yes.
It's whoever gets world first in the world
in the raid in live servers.
So if it was on the tournament realm,
would there still be a world first to get in the live game?
Because that's what it's all about, right?
It's the community coming together.
It's the guild trying to be the first guild
to clear it on live servers.
Like I said, if it was put on tournament realm,
it may take away some of that.
So what I pose, instead of a tournament realm,
I really liked the idea that,