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on the floor which are going to drag the players, you can see them being dragged
now. Do not underestimate the danger of this drag, it does huge amounts of damage.
Now what you're looking for is the red outlined ads. They are the normal blue ones
and then some red outlined ones. These are the death masks that need to be put
through the boss. Now the boss has to be hit three total times at least in
phase one by one of these death masks. You can see boss stacks there in the
mid right of your screen so they've hit it once. It has to be hit two more
times in this phase on the next charge. Now every time these deathmasses travel through the boss
it does need to happen. They have to be hit three times this time then four times on the next one
and then five times on the final charges that we'll see later on. It removes one of the stacks
the boss has, but it also gives the boss, there you can see two boss stacks there. That is a
damage buff. Each one of them representing 10% extra damage done by the boss and it lasts
for 12 seconds. However if it's hit three times because you might be thinking well why not
just send three through at one time, pop your defensives and get through with it. If the boss
gets hit with three of those stacks at any point in the fight that damage buff is no longer just
12 seconds it's permanent and will stay for the rest of the fight. So that's the trick that was
this point to the finale of this fight is they will have to at some point hit the boss three
times. Ideally that is going to be on the very very last charges of the fight because from
the remainder onwards the boss will have a permanent damage buff applied to it but until
at the actual health bar depletes.
Nasty business, geez.
Absolutely correct.
Could not be more perfect,
that explanation of exactly what's going on.
They're gonna be dealing with three
of those death masks in phase one,
four in phase two and five in phase three.
They've got an interesting strategy set up
as we lose Ryson in that admission, unfortunately.
They have an interesting strategy set up
where on the first charges,
they rotate those charges clockwise around the room,
creating guaranteed intersection points
where Mirrors can intercept two of the death masks
as they go through on that first charge,
guaranteeing that the second charge will only have
a maximum of two until the very last phase,
allowing them to ensure that they only have to
have perfect position on the first charge
and then the second charge,
they can just go straight through the middle.
They can't all go straight through the middle
on the first charge because then the boss
will get three stacks immediately on that first charge.
So as the first portals of phase two go out,
you're gonna see that charge coming out
in just a little while
and they're gonna rotate them around the room
like this, and MIRRORs moves the boss into this intersection, and the boss picks up two
stacks, naturally, and then there are two stacks remaining that as long as each charge goes
directly through the middle, and the boss is positioned in the middle, it's error-free
gaming. However, that does mean that the players need to memorize two different safe
spots, depending on whether they're on the first or second charge of the fight
in each intermission, because on the first charge, the ads are being sent clockwise
around, and you need to make sure you're not getting hit by that charge if you're
not the targeted player. And then on the second one, they're going straight through the middle
and you need to make sure you're not on any of those cardinal lines as they go through.
Yeah, and of course, everybody hit by those charges will then be detonating, releasing
those big purple orbs off into the area, which are super deadly. And the trick here
is you're looking at a lot of people getting clobbered, drops to the floor, what's going
on, you know, they're good 30 pulls in and still getting eradicated. The damage
profile that's outgoing here is this is not just a DPS check, which is what everybody
was talking about. That's been the main focus of looking at the insane amount of HP that
the Princess has. Originally it was 7777 then they changed it to boob 8008. Blizzard having
a bit of fun there. They then adjusted it again early this morning so it's just below the
original 7777. So whatever math Blizzard is crunching in the background they truly believe
yep we think you can do this. It's just going to be a nightmare.
It's going to be very difficult.
They're going to have to do a lot of practice to finesse and perfect their strategy as they
head into trying to start getting actual pulls that are within kill range and start
actually getting the damage in.
Until they start another pull, we can take a quick look at the logs to show the damage
profile of the fight.
So all that I've done here is I pulled up the overall damage taken, those following
along and one to learn how to use work up logs.
You can then go to tank in from ability to see what's actually doing the most
damage in the fight.
The top two damage sources are inevitable, unavoidable, raid-wide damage.
One of them is from Stalking Shadows, the other is Nether Rift.
Stalking Shadows takes on everyone in the raid, anytime there are clones.
So you see that as soon as the clones spawn, that's just going to be ticking in the background
all the time, doing an enormous amount of VPS.
And then when the boss casts Nether Rift and they start pulsing and pulling everyone
in, of course you need to avoid the Void Zones because if those hit you, you will
die.
But it's also doing extremely high spike damage on each instance of those Nether Rifts.
And what we're looking at are those dangerous overlaps, where you have high raid damage
from two different independent sources.
And then, after that, all of the damage is the individual people getting hit by, for example,
if you get the charge or you get the portal, then you're going to have that Queensbane
debuff exploding on you, doing a lot of ticking damage, and then sending out orbs all around.
So you can see there are a couple of overlaps where it's very, very dangerous.
You have Queensbane ticking on you while there's raid damage from the boss and raid
damage from the Nether Portals all at the same time.
Those are where you're going to see Defensives used, Health Stones, Health Potions, and
Raid-Wide DRs, as well as we see Rycin using things like Hymn and Oramastry to
to live through those intersections.
Yeah, it's a brutal amount of spike damage
that comes in on players that's almost impossible
for this healing team to top you up to be at full health.
And that's the real danger,
because let's say you've got the rifts ticking on you,
you've got the shades that are ticking on you as well.
So your health bar is floating somewhere between 18, 90%
and then you get the charge on you, right?
And you can see now the players on those ray frames,
that purple, black arrow type mark that's ticking away.
That's the Queen's Bane.
So that's going to detonate shortly
when they run out, you're gonna see the orbs
flying across the screen, there they are. You get one of those, you get the charge, you
get something going through you, you get the Queen's Bane and your health just ticks. If
it goes below 10%, you get executed by the boss and no longer like in Heroic, which
I've seen several people survive getting executed in Heroic, but that was hitting
you for about 2.6 million, I think, or 2.8 million in Heroic. In Mythic, it's
10 million
Absolutely they want you out of there and nullifies a lot of your abilities to survive death mechanics
No, you cheat death star mechanics that a lot of classes have it will take that away from you
But so far so good on this yeah a comet res has had to be used
But you can see people like salt and Gigi right now right and clicks these guys are on lower HP
They're working through it because they know that this intermission is coming, but this is a clean ish
Resus entry into the intermission absolutely true
We saw there that they did a better job of positioning to dodge those lines because importantly
Unfortunately, he does have the on totem as they're well going down again
This is a difficult in a mission with a lot of spike damage souls in execute range looks like he probably yeah
Velo goes down. So now we are three healing
Than an XE range clicks an XE range macing goes down
This was a bleed out intermission as we try to push into phase two to continue working on a strategy
But importantly we did see in phase one while they dealt with those two charges
The players did a much better job of making sure that they didn't get hit by the charges
You need to position away from the rotating charges on that first set of charges that go clockwise around the room and then in between
The cardinal points on the second set of charges because importantly with all this damage ticking in the background
Constantly from the clones and the bosses portals. You can't
Prio heal everyone you have to prior heal the people who must be top because they're guaranteed to about to get hit by
The queen's bane or by the charge if an extra person gets hit by the charge
They weren't a priority heal target to get top before that mechanic and they usually will die
The healers are trying to prioritize healing on the people that they know are supposed to get hit by these spike damage events
This is a classic country of he doesn't have a raid frames up. No, what is he?
What am I gonna do with raid frames you tell me you thought if we're wiping we're wiping what am I supposed to do with
Right now. Yeah, I'm just in the roads can turn them off
If we're down to be using jumper cables, then we're in real trouble.
That could happen.
It has happened. I've definitely saved some people with jumper cables on my Hunter in the past.
They might actually be below his camera frame, since I possibly was down there, smuggled away.
But it's a fight that's really, for healers, this is kind of really interesting for them.
Blizzard has given them two games to play.
On the one hand, you've got this constant relentless damage that's pouring down onto the raid,
but you have to be picky about who you heal.
As we talked earlier, yes, you're gonna get all this dot damage. It's coming from the rifts, it's coming from the shades existing.
But then that does disappear, and now you've got to focus on the people with the really heavy Queen's Bane dot,
and you can kind of leave the other guys for a second because they're not going to tick any lower below that 10%.
The Queen's Bane people might, so they reshift and readjust their healing style,
and then they go into the intermission, which is massive spike damage.
The people with the blaze lines getting hit, ideally not being clipped by one or two people,
and making sure they're open.
Saw that there with the health frames of Thana and things like that.
Is they 100% then something hits them.
You know, that blaze line hits very, very hard, drops them down maybe to 20%.
They need sorting out because if anything else like naturally ticks on them at that point,
they're going to be executed and you're going to see a lot of that where the players
kind of ordinarily would survive in any other encounter.
But here, just that 1% difference, you go from 11 to 10.
Yeah, she's coming for you and she wants you.
Absolutely true.
And it's a it's a real problem because typically you can afford to make a few mistakes and count on being topped by the healers before you're in lethal territory
But in this fight every few seconds someone gets targeted with a mechanic that's guaranteed to do around 80% of their health
Putting them if they're not at 100% if they're at 90% when that hits they're dead when they reach 10% get executed
So the healers have to every few seconds someone's about to get hit with another portal
They need top someone's about to get hit by the portal's charge. They need top someone has the Queensbane
They need top those triage targets are the only ones the healers can really afford to make sure a top all the time
Everyone else trying to keep alive through that raid healing ancillary benefits
That means that if you take on the do you take avoidable damage that you weren't supposed to take you cannot count on recovery from healers
Helping you out. No you can and it's one of those cases where you would certainly think well
We need to bring another healer right? Yeah, the math says no can't be done
The math says that the boss has way too much HP for that to be okay
Now we've had seen some really cool stuff. You missed the start of the stream actually.
You actually saw some interesting strategies coming out from Roger, which has led to this more tank-focused
manoeuvring of the boss. Originally they were dropping this overlapping portal scenario, which
had the charges and a corridor being created by the players, which should have been quote-unquote safe.
But it was very tight. It was a very small area that didn't allow any sort of room for a just from any of the players.
They had to trust everything to go perfectly and considering the suck, although it's balanced and the guys are dropping in the right place
You're not having those strange ones drop like we've seen in you know in some of the
splits that they've been doing
It's still moving you around. You're still being shuffled on your feet
So keeping perfect position all the time is not particularly feasible and didn't leave any room for error
So they were just slightly widened it and gone with this clockwise skip one location
strategy as well which is a mix of both so as you pointed out it's up to the
tanks maybe we could follow mirrors here and you'll see exactly what I'm talking
about is when he's gonna move the boss over to this sort of reddish area because
that's where it's missing a portal and that's gonna have such a robin
tanking right now you see that big wearbear there slapping away you need
to drew it in the raid for that mark of the wild buff so it is on robin
now to be tanking on his guard injured now they're gonna pull back now
what you're gonna see the charges coming in two seconds you can see
that count down there. You're actually going to see them and maneuver the boss in between
these intersecting lines where the death mask you can see how it's positioned. So both of
them are going to hit, or actually that needs to take out Robbie as well. But something
is on the outside there and got hit by both of the charges at the same time perhaps.
Yeah, but it's going to be a white, but you get the idea they're dragging the
boss. As long as the players make this pattern with the charges, then the tanks
can completely control everything else and the DPS can just keep nuking and nuking and
nuking and nuking, which is what's going to be required once they settle into the strategy
and get it killed.
Yep, absolutely.
Looking at the DPS check of this fight, the boss has that 7.5 million total health.
She has about a 6 minute and 30 second in range, which you can kind of trickle past
a little bit with some immunity that they're still around, but that was about how long
Heroic lasted and not many people lasted much longer than that so using that six minute and thirty second in raid
We're looking at nineteen point three million raid wide DPS required
Which doesn't sound terrible looking at something like brood twister with the tons of ads giving lots of a we but that's not a thing
Let's fight the last single target fight in mythic was sikran captain the sirkai and on that fight though
It wasn't a perfect pull. It was a one shot so they didn't optimize their damage
They weren't trying to put in the best single target they could it was kind of a gearing boss
lots of considerations to keep in mind. They were doing a total of 14 million
raid-wide DPS on that fight on the kill. So 5 million or over a 30% lower amount
of DPS than they're gonna need in order to kill this one. They need a lot more
single target damage. Now they're gonna get a lot from having an optimized
comp. They're gonna get a lot from the three or four item level gain since
in and on a kill they're gonna get a lot from it being a perfect pull
where everyone's going to be alive for a long time but still we're looking
at an enormous amount of single target DPS necessary in order to progress through
this fight. Yeah, I feel like this is absolutely going to be we're going to be
looking this as Rhygel on 2.0, which is going to come down to probably both
guilds really stretching for that last percentage point. Really pushing
everything they possibly can is that countdown ticks. She's gonna have that
permanent damage buff coming onto them. Nobody can really die. Certainly by the
end, obviously combat res is all available, but you're going to want
everybody up, not just in order to manage everything, but also to just be
to continue to damage this health bar and reduce these hit points as much as possible which is what
they're playing for right now and it can't be understated how flexible the echo team has been here
obviously if you watched last night with brood twister you'll see oh shimmy shimmy but uh this
looks good yeah that's fine so you can see the twist here what we're saying with the healing is
like the shades are up but you're not getting anything oh mirrors yeah it just kind of it looks
Looks like he's staggered actually, probably below 10% there, but they have got the combat
res up.
That's going to do fine.
They're going to deal with this suck now, which is this raid wide damage, the spirit
link going down to help manage this and prepare them for the intermission, which will be
coming up after these charges.
So another set of charges to be done.
This is the easier one.
They've already dealt with everything else.
They can just put this through the middle and there you go.
Well done.
That's exactly how you want it to go.
That does require, like we said, the team needs to learn to dodge two different
charge configurations.
rotating one of the first charge and then the straight through the middle of the
second charge but they did it very successfully we're gonna get one more
set of nether rifts going off and some raid wide damage softening them up for
the intermission because they're gonna come out of this and immediately need
to spread individuals going to corners all over the room to minimize the
likelihood that they are overlapping those blazes from the boss which we
last time had a lot of people dying in this mission we're gonna need to keep
an eye on it this time because they're going into this in very good
shape. They certainly are this is gonna be one of the toughest stages for
because they've been maneuvering some healing cooldowns in order to manage the other phases.
Oh! And you know what I'm saying? The top selves. We see Zeruo has gone down here.
Yeah, Sol was well executed. They tried to top him up, but that execute comes through. You can see
it's happening to Flex as well. These guys are ticking to like 7%, 8%, and that's it,
you're dead. The boss is coming for you in a real way. So three players down on that there,
so that's better than what we had before though. That is certainly better. They're
constantly in a state of adjustment here to get it right. But we're into phase two. Now
They need four deathmarks to go through the boss, but the strategy is identical due to the way they've set it up
Nothing changes. We have the same thing at the portals being dropped here
The boss is going to be pulled out to drop the portal in the empty gap. The tanks are going to maneuver between the charges
That's going to apply to the two of the deathmarks
And then the last one because you've already done the first two you could just send everything else to the middle
So for players perspective nothing changes here from phase one whatsoever
They just have to do the right thing and position these properly.
Now one thing that does change is exclusively changing for the tanks.
Trying to put that burden on the tanks, which they do perfectly.
They're getting two of the death masks because while the players do the exact same thing every time,
the tanks on the first round only have to intersect one death mask on the first charge,
and then the other two will naturally happen on the second.
This time around with four death masks, they have to intersect two at once.
And since only four out of the five clones are death masked, they can miss one if they don't play well.
play well but of course with mirrors and Robin handling it that is not an issue. Now the second
round of charges much easier they get charged directly through the boss everyone else dodging
those lines so they don't get hit by those and get a queen's bane and the boss now has two stacks
the first time two stacks second time all of those deathmats have been dispelled. Yep absolutely
perfect so lost a couple of players but not as bad as I would have expected at this point
in the fight actually so we again we're not really bothered about health percentage at this
points it doesn't matter this is not going to die until everybody's alive a
whole way but what it is doing is just give an experience you can see mirrors
laughing and joking they're having a giggle they know they're in for a war so
now we set the YOLO bloodlust might as well yeah as far as we've seen second
in a mission yeah this is great for tracking our healer cooldowns and stuff
are actually working in theory on the spreadsheet and how it actually plays
out in reality is like okay we really needed something else to cover here
because we were going to die, so we need to reevaluate this,
make it work.
So double blaze lines on the ricin here.
The ricin's having a hell of a time here, hanging back.
It loves POV actually, just looking straight down the line,
right on the border of where these pizza slices are coming out.
And we're into phase three, and also getting very close
to the enrage, hilariously, because the boss is at 50%.
Yes, true.
Well, half the raid did.
But this is the first time we've been in phase three,
we're going to be dealing with all five clones being death masks, which means that ideally the tanks now again have an interesting job
They want to intersect two of these Queens veins
Which their strategy are naturally going to do these death masks only two of them will intersect in this
Rotation around the room and then three will go through on the second round
Minimizing the amount of time they're going to be dealing with the triple stack
Permanently on the boss because every single clone how now has it death mask so we're going to see this rotating charge
getting positioned, getting it sent around the boss, picking up two stacks exactly as planned.
That means on the next charge all three will naturally go through the middle and be removed at the exact same time.
At that point, permanently enraging the boss.
Yeah, this is, I mean, they're nearly there.
I mean, it's a new best, right?
This is great. This is the end of the fight.
This is actually important.
Yeah, this is important.
Yeah, this is the end of the fight is coming up here, guys, because now they're going to move out.
This is going to be all three hitting the boss and now you can see the boss stacks has
got three.
There's no countdown on that week or it's all the boss is now permanently at rage until
this is over.
And when we hit the next intermission, yeah, it's going to be a real bad time.
So this is the first time Echo has legitimately kind of reached the very end of the fight.
This is the final rifts that are going to go into this intermission.
Absolutely.
We have two healers, but that's okay because we only have five non healers alive.
Easy to keep everyone alive at that point.
a nice healer to DPS ratio. Going into the intermission, this is going to hit significantly
harder than the first two intermissions because she has those three stacks that will never be dispelled.
So look at everyone getting chunked down 80% off every time they get hit by a blade.
This is legit just healing himself. With a Guardian Spirit up and he still can't keep up!
He can't keep up with Guardian Spirit up! That's wild. That is nuts. You didn't even try
healing anyone else. I'm just healing myself. That's it. That's the whole fight. You've
You've seen everything.
Now they just need to do that with 100% more damage and they should be fine.
Nope.
Looks very, very doable.
That is awful.
It's a fast fight.
Yeah.
They were obviously missing a lot of myth, you know, a lot of people who died by them.
They will have things there.
But yeah, the rise of just spam healings of with Guardian Spirit and still unable to
survive even while dodging every necessary thing to be dodged.
It was wild.
Now of course, Chris Potter in the background is going to be working on the spreadsheets
trying to move around the puzzle pieces.
They have a certain amount of raid-wide healing,
that certain amount of raid-wide DR.
They have Personals,
and then they have a symbol of hope
that can reset the Personals.
Trying to make that work
so that everyone has damage reduction when they need it,
ideally in the intermission,
and healing available as needed as well.
So a lot of puzzle pieces to move around
to try to make that work.
A lot of players saying,
I died to damage.
I did everything I could.
I had my defensive up.
I still died.
Potter's gonna be like,
shut up, we're fixing it.
If I died to damage.
That's really useful feedback, thank you.
It's the classic line every healer hates to hear, but it happens all the time.
I died to damage.
I just ticked down.
Yeah, I just ticked down.
There is no ticking down on this fight.
You got chunked for 80% of your health, my friend.
Yeah, exactly.
Did you stand in something where you're pissing about with it?
Did you just thought you'd greed an extra cast?
What did you do?
Did you stand in two blaze lines back to back?
Did you move from yours into someone else's?
Mm-hmm.
Is that what happened?
Because that's what the logs say.
Very interesting to look at all the personals being mapped out.
I might have something to show you on that front, you know,
little while show you take a time over to everybody.
Absolutely. Also looking at the healing done preservation of ochre.
As you can see on those meters blasting 2 million HPS,
so there's a huge amount of rate healing,
but this is an interesting fight because you can't cover it just with
rate healing like you could with the Brew Twister.
You need specific triage healing on the five people who get Northern
Nether Portals. They need to be at 100% before they go off on the people
who take a charge from the clone. They need to be 100% before it goes off.
Ebenos has to suffer with just receiving raid healing. The triage healing that the Thaynor and Rycen are providing is still very, very important
while Velo and Datsy carry raid-wide healing with healing rain, chain heal, and in golf.
Yeah, it's a constant changing incoming damage profile.
I kind of like it. Steady stream into massive spikes, swap back again, so you can't do like they did on Brutus,
which was just AoE heal everybody all the time.
There's none of that triage healing that Justin Stark writes.
just spam spam spam the entire raid all the time because the damage from virus is
constant incoming damage that was never ever stopping ever relenting this time
around shift it up spiky smooth spiky smooth and all the time
interestingly enough no mana not a concern here the fight is so short it's
a it's a ridiculous short sight man it's not gonna matter you're pumping the
whole time but it's only six minutes whereas we were dealing with ten minutes
of non-stop unremitting raid healing on the Brute Twister. This is a much much faster fight.
Also we have a more supportive build this time around. In the last fight all we had was a couple
of AMZs and then rallying cries. This time around we have prismatic barriers, mass barriers from
every single one of the mages providing a significant bolster of healing done. We have
nice memes of darkness which is very very useful whenever we're stacking and ticking
damage particularly when combined with spirit link. So a lot of supportive type roles being
played by the DPS on this fight, providing a lot of healing. Everyone, of course, except for the hunters.
Don't even need raid friends. You're also there. They are indeed there, and they're doing damage,
which is why they're there. They are indeed. Yeah, Sol and show have been relentlessly... I mean,
it's been really cool thing to see is that we saw obviously five death knights from the previous
boss. Now there is zero death knights in the entire raid. We had Moonkins, we had all kinds
of things that were brought in for Brute Twister and now we shifted it to this four mage combo going on
here to mix this in with along with those evokers on top of that like the class stacking has been
crazy for these bosses but Blizzard putting up huge walls that these guys are trying to meet
the more practice needed though so what we're looking for here is not that we're excited that
Echo just had their best pull and obviously reached essentially the end of the fight
We all know you and me both audience that until until they get there with a lot of
bodies alive and not many lying on the floor inspecting that they're not
really going to be bringing it home this is all about practice and I think right
now honestly jeef I think this is the healer time.
It is it is this is a fight that's are going to require an enormous amount of
both personal progression in terms of knowing when to personal when to
health stone when to health pot and healer progression when are we using
Which raid cooldown and how do we prioritize the correct target to stay alive?
So an enormous amount of progression on all fronts
It's gonna need to be perfected in order to get through what is a very difficult fight
Heading into the first portals of phase one. This is gonna have four
I'm sorry three death masks to deal with so on the first charge
Yep, first charge coming out here in one second
We're gonna need to rotate around the room of the Chargers and then mirrors already positioning to get hit by
One of the death masks or two doesn't matter looks like we picked up one there
Yep, it certainly does. So one is fine because the next one is naturally going to put two through the boss.
There is no reason to not do that now. Get it out of the way while more people are safe than choosing not to.
Oh, they already rested. They did rest them. He was just waiting for it to be safe. Yeah, I didn't see the icon in the raid frames.
That's totally fine. So that will come in here. So the next one is just going to be put all the way through the boss.
It's not going to make a difference. It's going to be nice and easy and everyone could just slightly drop out.
Drop out as you can see a ridiculously
Ranged heavy comp now of course if you do get hit by that charge if you get intercepted by one of them
You will be getting the Queensbane debuff you can see it going down
Yeah, I think it's so much damage that they needed to be
Yep
I think we had a couple of clips because the raid does have to position between those charges
You can't have an extra person get hit if you do you'll almost certainly be executed because you weren't a priority target for triage
Healing and it also puts more
Balls blowing up around the entire raid because everyone with Queensmaid explodes making it incrementally more difficult to dodge both the lines and the balls
As we are heading into our first in mission with one healer down
Trying to keep everyone alive
This is where people are popping their personal to live through these relentless number of
Blazes hitting everyone and micro adjusting trying to survive these slices rotating around the room their own blazes dodging everyone else's
Unfortunately, we do lose Fraggo, Zero is in extreme months of danger, Soul and Rev is getting executed as well, so constantly losing people who are in a mission which makes sense with one healer down.
Oh for sure, that wasn't that bad, because as soon as the healer down, it could have been way, way worse. But again, a lot of practice needed, so they will continue to push on.
They might call it pretty soon, we have seen like they just saw that Bloodlust is kind of being used right now for if there's any way of just maybe rescuing it and it worked right then, right?
then right so in that bloodlust in the intermission to let the healers do what
they need to do it's obviously not the bloodlust they're going to be utilizing
when they're actually going for a kill likely we'll see that bloodlust either at
the beginning or maybe in the execute but likely the beginning of the fight so
we come to Zerg Zerg Zerg Zerg Zerg absolutely using it as a progression
tool to get the healers going when they need to so we can practice more
this fight because this is a non-stop repeating fight really kind of only
changing for the tanks we need to position the boss in order to intercept
two of those death masks done perfectly here the remaining two will get
naturally hit in the middle on the next round of important to note that every
time the boss takes these death masks she is taking a stacking damage buff
increasing the damage that all of the subsequent abilities are doing for 12
seconds which is why it's so dangerous afterward to have those queenbane
ticking and the balls flying around the room you cannot afford to get
clipped by those as we head into the second charges these are gonna go
right through the middle everyone's gonna step in between to dodge them
try not to get hit by the other line in order to get the last two stacks of death
mask off on the boss. Yeah, it's a fellow in Fanner are actually putting on a kind
of testimony here. So healing they could do. Let's look at the healing meter right
now like Ryson, just how much these guys are doing. That is just hard
chilling. He's got such a Jesse impression. This is a Holy Paladin thing.
This is a holy, yeah, look at the screen. This is the Holy Paladin
gameplay we all came for it's just like me yeah yeah that's it interestingly
thanner is playing more of a raid oriented healing build with beacon of
virtue splashing healing on all kinds of people instead of dedicating the beacons
to specific targets like the tanks which makes sense on this boss because
the tanks aren't particularly in that much danger unless they reach 10% which
is in their hands more than anyone else's but the raid damage is insane
here. I love the name of a weak core. It says popperdune. If you're near 10% use your immunity.
Yeah as soon as you approach 10% use everything. Don't get 10%. Importantly this becomes so much
more difficult with people dead because we saw there the blazes the same number of blazes come out
no matter how many people are alive so if you know a couple people are dead you're getting
more you're getting their share of blazes as well. If half the rate is dead you're getting
twice as many blazes as you should with only four people happy they're all getting five
plays as a piece and there's just no living to them that much damage. It's a fight built from the
ground up to don't die. Yep, do not die and don't get hit by anything avoidable because then you're
going to die anyway to that execute. Interesting to look at some of the specs being played obviously
we can see those on screen as well with two warlocks playing the same spec to hunters both playing
BM the warlocks are affliction. Our rogue is subtlety nothing interesting showing up until
Rev is dropping away from fury over to arms on this fight for that single target improvement
And our evokers are the only class in the fight playing different specs with one augmentation and one still playing devastation.
And one preservation. All the evoker with healers don't matter, but true.
I've said a whole array of evokers on display. Not bad for a relatively new class to the game, right?
It's been the evoker tier kind of with several fights having four or five evokers present in them and now every single spec available, which we are a little bit surprised by.
I don't know that many people anticipated devastation being as good as it is.
It's, I mean, it's not quite the surprise we've got,
Razageth, that's for sure, where it was like,
oh, this fight is like purpose built
for this brand new class.
Maybe we should have seen that coming
is that they could sort of consider
how good they would be.
But this time around, there have been lots of evokers
on standby and thankfully Echo and Liquid
were both ready for that opportunity,
ready for that possibility,
having lots of evokers ready to go.
And you can see why all three specs
represented on this extremely difficult fight,
not pigeon-holed as often certain specs are,
is like, which one is best, you know,
road stuff from that all the time is like I like this one I like this one nope
you play this one it just does way more I love sorting the warcraft logs not by
individuals doing damage but by name of ability doing damage with four arcane
mages in the fight the top three damage sources are arcane blast arcane missiles
and arcane barrage before any other damage from any of the other classes
even shows up on the meters those arcane mages have been predicted to
be very strong ever since they were doing so much damage in heroic week picked
up nerf coming into the week.
I was going to say the nerf arcane mage is like two layers
of nerfs coming into coming into week two mythic week
and still stacking four of them on the single target boss.
Yeah, you can see that constantly.
They've been actually doing this all morning guys
is checking their graphic settings.
It's quite awkward to see the death mass targets,
especially with things going on in raid markers
which you need in this fight.
You have to have those things.
It's just a relatively thin red outline.
So I'll try and highlight for you
if you're not sure what we're talking about
the death masks that have to hit the boss. It's the shades. So you either go with the portals,
then the shades appear and you'll just notice that not all of them, but a few of them have this red
ally. Those are the ones that need to go through the boss. We should stick with Mira's POV because
he's got them clearly denoted better than anyone on the raid because he's responsible for moving
the boss on the first charge of each section in order to intercept the correct number of
those death masks. No one else has to care because no one else in the raid is responsible
for aiming. They all are going to aim the same way every single time clockwise on the first charge,
straight through the boss on the second charge. That consistency for everyone in the raid group,
a huge help progression and Rodger designing a strat in order to enable that only Mirius and Robin
need to be able to identify the death masks to move the boss into a position where it intercepts
two on that first round so that the second round can naturally resolve with no effort by
anyone. Yeah, he's got Rodger in his air now, communicating with him, telling him some
secrets that he's found out. It is Outline Mode for any of you
tanks out there are looking for Oh God, Roger come back. Okay,
Roger doing a wonderful job of advertising that secret lab
chair that he's on forever sinking deeper into his Greek
hole, waiting to educate the guys. This is the boss he's
been most interested in helping with. He's been working on
this for the last few days, he's come with a bunch of ideas
which they've implemented in. And now he's won cozy non
laundry concerned Roger Brown, which is great to see for us
Settled in and helping them out doing what you can. I don't think he stopped speaking for about four hours
Yeah, he's in his own now he spent the first part of her oak week
He wasn't involved in designing the splits or managing the splits
So he was taking care of the players to have everything you need
You know he shot right up in this morning. I don't I don't blame someone said I ate all the protein bars
Figures. I didn't I had three protein bars total of 40 protein bars
Yeah, but now Roger is in his element. He's been thinking about the strategic aspects and planning of these fights for months now after testing and finally able to start
Chucking his ideas into the raid as echo pulls ever closer to catching up to liquids lead on this fight
I'm happy he's got something in he's felt a little restless
I think because again he wasn't involved in the heroics and splits that was all just wait and everybody else who are managing all that
He was just taking care of us here at the venue
doing all those things and now we can be like okay now I can focus on the game
it's not like you need to do brain flex sick run or anything like that right
and Brute Swiss there it was you know copy liquid strap and that's what yeah
there was nothing to really math out or science there but they came into this
boss with some interesting ideas we've seen Roger explaining them to the team
all morning and then adjusting it as necessary and it's a good strategy
because it's so replicable I love the fact that this is such a such an
echo strut right trying to take as much responsibility out of everyone's
You don't need to worry about charging your death mask through the boss or not
You always go to the exact same place every single time
Only the tanks have to worry about it trying to minimize the degree to which people can make errors
So they can focus on not getting hit by stuff
Which is currently the largest source of personal error and wipes on this boss. Yeah. Well, here we go. Come on team
Show us something magnificent
Let's see it nice and clean the cleaner they get because they need consistency here because we are gonna get to that point
Where they're gonna be pushing that last few percentage points. We know it
We can all see it in our mind's eye that once this is resolved and they've got the rhythm,
the actual race to the finish line is going to be on to actually overcome this HP and actually
bring the boss to the floor.
So what they need to get there, they need to get their consistent, which is why this
strategy is being played because it should work every time.
But there you go, Velo just clipped there by something which took him below 10% and
that's it.
So there's the first combat res in the first few seconds.
Just to reiterate how deadly this fight is, right?
38 seconds in combat res use and it's not that unusual makes that very nasty queensbane dot
You can see that purple dot on the raid frames there doing a ton of damage onto those guys and again
It's not just about that damage
It's about them ticking that ever little lower and get executed in the face by the boss
Especially when the suck then falls up which does about 10 million damage per player. Oh
I think it's the portal. He's got clipped by the portal. Yeah, hey portal
That's a no touch you the purple as we head into the second round of charges here
We need to just make sure nobody gets hit by these. Oh vello going down again
So we're going to be three healing this last portion of damage and going into the intermission
I wouldn't be surprised to call a wife here. I think they're done with this one
Yeah, this bit we've learned limping on I mean it's there is definitely merit
To limping on a little bit and getting more and more practice, you know
or just rhythm and cadence of the fight.
Mastering cooldowns, especially for damage optimization,
it is well worth giving people the next few minutes.
It's like, okay, my cooldowns actually line up really badly
here with what's about to happen.
That's worth, but not if it's just gonna be
a complete pain in the ass.
And you're just not getting any relevant information
because half the players are dead
and the healing cooldowns are all scuffed
and they're all over the place.
That ain't worthwhile, so quick res here.
No need for wine time, boys.
Only feet, soldiers.
Let's keep pushing forward.
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Here is what's making production work and for the players as well and of course I certainly for the brain trust Roger Potter
And scribe up there have these giant big stream deck pluses with everybody's POV on them
So they could swap instantly utilizing all that functionality
But of course and always reminder stream decks used for much more than just streaming if you look to if that's a constant problem
I think recently in helldivers 2 where people put
You can put any Macro you want into a Stream Deck and it'll do it for you so you could just
put your call in Macros right there and push a button, call it in, kind of eliminating a
piece of the gameplay there.
But a testament to how good the Elgato Stream Deck is for any kind of functionality you
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Specifically as well, I think with massive tech that the guys use in production is
for audio.
Like all the audio routing and stuff like that is all tied directly through the
Stream Deck.
It has a ton of plugins.
It is a bunch of buttons, but they're buttons
that you can utilize for so many functions.
I mean, I use obviously, I'm a streamer
and utilize it for some really wacky stuff,
death's wheel spins, all kinds of stuff
to try and give a best performance.
Simply without having to scroll up a screen, find a thing,
click it, type it into Twitch chat,
or whatever it might be.
So a wonderful piece of kit along with that.
Wave DXs, the microphones the guys are all using
and what we're using.
So if you've watched any of our streams,
I know G-Spids streaming from the Castor Room.
I don't really know them, not for a couple of days.
Yep. That's what we're using.
That's what we've been provided with as long as the face cam pros,
which is what you're looking at right now.
That's Kush on a face cam pro.
Look how pretty he is.
Oh, I was getting that zoomed in shot of him either sleeping or hyper focused
or fully laid back or other Hentix in that secret lab chair constantly
making the most out of the comfort it provides.
Yeah.
I was interested in the perspective and the angles the guys choose when they
got here.
So you got Kush with the kind of standard one.
They got nice beams.
He's got like four sideways.
Have you seen canyx with the straight up at him?
Yeah.
It's from the DPS meter part of me, right at the bottom.
Keep it nice and low.
I shouldn't say that.
He's been doing really well.
He's really, he's like top of the damage.
Oh, he was 14, death plus nine, no levers.
Uh-oh.
Oh, mini sham, clearly trolling.
Yep, trying to get people to resist that, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, Candace was actually number two
on the overall damage meter for Brew Twister.
Unfortunately, you know, last on boss damage,
but doing that job of killing all of the worms
Starfall doing amazing work on the ad filled fight. Yeah, this that there's no padding on that boss
That's all they need to die
Is no joke. So while he was job was not to kill the boss
It was to kill absolutely everything else enabling everybody else to kill the boss this boss by the way this mythic boss
That's a very good. Yes, dude is horrendous. I have it is a fairly unfun
It's definitely one of the bosses of all time for sure the biggest issue
I've had with it, of course you need to kill those ads in order to create puddles that will root you to avoid being pulled in by the boss
Yep, but then everyone has so much cleave that the ads die down the stairs as far as possible away from the boss
And it's just obnoxious try to get into them. But yeah, they're going down in this level nine
Yeah, and that the spray that comes out of you is
So much damage
Onto your little up to your friends nearby you just end up killing each other if you've got a couple of melee in the
Group you will you need to position very very carefully to do that
Oh, it looks like Mastin's decided to fly away home.
Yep.
Well, sometimes they have strategy conversations
that certain people just aren't interested in
and they can just play games while scrapping.
I wonder, have a conversation.
Yeah, it's been actually a thing that they tried desperately
to work and obviously with bosses like this, it's going to happen.
But more polls has been the request, I think,
from the players every single tier.
For years, for years and years.
The players are ready to get polls in
because reps give you that practice,
which you need in order to get through
the difficult mechanics of these fights.
But of course there's no reason to mindlessly bang their heads against this if they can come up with a strategy that makes things easier.
So inevitably they do have these long conversations. It's been kind of a feature of this team for a very long time.
But they have long talks in order to figure out strategies the players are ready to pull.
But Roger might have some kind of improvement to the strategy he needs to present to them.
It's a stark difference between Echo's FF 14 team.
If you watch their savage progression, which is obviously FF 14's mythic equivalent.
they don't stop pulling for any man whatsoever.
Me and Geith were casting the recent Savage Progress
and we were shocked that we didn't even have time
to say anything.
It's really, pull, pull, pull, pull, pull, pull, pull, pull.
Talk about that strategy while they're pulling.
Yes, they do it while they're pulling
and have their analysts, they do things very differently
which I think was, with the Brutcher and Skype
joining the little analysts side of things
were probably a little bit shocking, like so.
How do we cover this?
Like just do it while we're pulling,
tell us while we're going, we'll get going.
Here we go. We're going into the charges. This is typically they've had just slight errors here. Somebody gets clipped usually
Yeah, if you've got like 80% health like you see Robin now, it's if you get taken out 10 you're dead, but it's good
Okay, it's charges done successfully and they did in fact get one stack of death mask dispelled
Unfortunately clicks goes down there to kill your dog. I think that was one of the Queen's veins expiring from the charge hitting him and
Clipping him there in melee. So that shouldn't really happen with the positioning of those Queen's veins
It's kind of interesting whether it's slightly out of position or something on those lines because they are trying to keep those Queens
Banes in a in such a way that they should not be able to
Hit anybody else and you see the Queens Banes are going to go off again shortly
You can see that purple debuff on the vokers etc. So that's he gets clipped
But he does have the honky comes back up everyone alive. We have
successfully dispelled all of the death masks so after one more pull we're going
into stage two. Everybody needs to personalize they take these blazes
because they're gonna get clipped and killed at the level of health we have
right now we need to get everyone topped up because now we're spreading out and
it's much more difficult to get that stacked healing that the
Yeah, Frago, Zatsi down, and Ryzen down. Two healers killed by this.
Yeah, this is a bad place to be.
It's just hard. There's so many of these blazes doing so much damage.
And then if you get clipped by one other person at the same time, you get an execute range and killed.
Yes. Remember, it's not about being... Oh, look at all those blazes. Wow.
That was a lot.
They do look a little too close.
Yeah, they need more spreading out, especially with this ranged heavy comp.
We've gone from 10 melee down to the bare minimum number of melee necessary to provide mandatory buffs
And we need the ranch to get sufficiently far out that we can keep those blazes more spread and increase the chance of dodging all but your own
Personal blaze we are continuing with the three healer setup. Do you you already thoughts here?
They thinking I know it sounds wacky considering what we're seeing but the oh how viable is it?
They're of course thinking about that.
It's a great opportunity to test it.
If you do run into an enrage at 9, 10%,
you can't squeeze out any more damage.
Going to the three heal is a classic.
Echo did that with Rhygol on going from five down
to four healing that boss and squeezing out
the damage that way.
Yeah, not everybody was topped enough there, though.
So that was a definite argument against the idea.
They just could not top everybody enough.
And once the chain reaction happens with Queen's Banes
and people dying, they're going to detonate
and chain react and chain react.
And it's going to be a big snowball all the way
through.
I wouldn't even be surprised at some point to see Ryzen and Potter
Sitting down and let's have that we're gonna have to get some really weird strategy going here because Ryzen you can see those
There's a little frustration in the face
Trying to find how do we get through this?
Yep, because we need to get through this and liquid have progressed further than this in terms of stability
Remember HP not really the big concern right now. It's about stable getting there with stability with the raid alive
Yep. Absolutely true. This is a ridiculous amount of raid damage. Non-stop. You have
raid damage and then spike damage on individuals. Raid damage and then spike damage on individuals
and it's going to require perfect allocation of both raid cooldowns and then individual
micro cooldowns like the halo and the engulfs trying to make sure that we have sufficient
healing allocated for every one of those moments. And that's clearly still not the
case. We have a combination of two things occurring. Individuals getting hit by stuff
causing deaths. That's something that will come with their individual practice.
But also healer progression occurring, trying to make sure that they have sufficient
healing to cover all of those moments and that also requires adjustment from the
spreadsheet potter on the outside providing that leadership in consultation
with Ryzen and of course a huge amount of functionality being provided by all
of the different buff classes this is a fight where you're dealing with so much
damage and the difference between life and death can be microscopic so that
3% for example DR provided by having a rogue poison the boss with a
trophic poison really important to the raid surviving couldn't do without
that similarly with the devotion aura and all the other raid bus being
provided versatility coming in from the Druid for the same purpose.
Yeah. This is one of those fights where essentially a DPS is going to AFK.
Everything's on a timer.
There is nothing that a DPS is doing that's having any effect on what the boss is doing
itself other than positioning the actual, the boss mechanics.
So they could just sit and not press a single button for the most part and just run around
and avoid stuff for what they care about progress right now.
Whereas this is about, this is turned very, very quickly from the expected DPS, Zerg,
They thought it was going to be to a war of survivability and the stress and pressure that's on the healing team right now is immense because it's going to be up, this fight is up to them at this point.
And you know we're going to get that weird point, Geith, where they do it and they get them all to the end and the DPS has let them down.
Yeah, it's true. They're not going to be enough damage, but until then it's the healers letting them down every floor.
I died to damage, I took down just one heal please, but it's a difficult puzzle to put together.
And then they're gonna get there, and they're just gonna be thankfully left like...
Ah...
Now we have to do it again.
Yes, and now we can get you guys to wake up, please.
Because obviously, if the DPS are expecting to die, yeah, they might be a little sloppier on the damage.
True enough.
Yeah, it happens. They might be a little sloppier, they might not be as greedy, and they'll be up to them to maintain.
Also, you get to the end, and you look like you're only a few percent off.
One of the sources of extra damage you can get is healers sending a few more damage to globals.
We have to keep everyone alive, but if you play perfectly, you don't get hit by anything.
Maybe we can send one more smite at the boss one more flame breath from the evoker and do a little bit more damage
But this is a fight where no one wants to see the healer casting a DPS global while they're ticking down and dying
That's always a frustrating moment. Well, I mean, it's also frustrating if these healers managed to carry them across the finish
Lighter than say we're gonna need more from you guys. Yeah, you guys need to do some damage. Why don't you even contributing?
Yeah, what are you doing? I'm just looking at DPS and it's kind of shambles here. We need to
So we need to turn this up a little bit
and see what we can do.
Back in constant assessment,
every between every pull,
it doesn't feel like we've learned,
or seen anything different,
unless they, what do you think?
Are they just checking things in between,
doing some reps, while they're-
I think that's exactly what's happening.
We haven't seen a strategy change in a long time.
They're just working on those micro positioning issues,
making sure that everyone knows,
okay, this is the dodge configuration
for the first round of charges.
This is the dodge configuration for the second round charges.
And now, we've seen that they're going to go through and address these problems piecemeal.
Now, we've had a couple pulls in a row that get the charges basically correct, get into the intermission,
and then everyone starts falling over.
So when everyone's dying to something, when the players are this good, you don't just say,
play better. That's not good enough.
Roger's going to be looking for a strategic change that can address that issue.
Can we spread you out more?
Can we pull the range further back out of melee?
Can we assign specific quadrants that you're supposed to stay in no matter what,
so that you don't have too many blazes sending at the same spot?
Strategic changes can fix individual errors if it makes individual gameplay significantly more easy to execute.
Yeah, it does look right now that they're very clumped with those blazes, but also that's beneficial for healing.
It is, especially healing rain and gulf being such a large portion of the current output.
Once you spread out, you're really relying on the paladin and the holy priest to carry the healing in that moment,
and then maybe some chain healing as well from Zazi playing that Potemix Beck,
But you lose a lot of the power of the grouped up healing even the holy priest with sanctifies
Your engulfs are less effective with people more spread out your dream breaths are less effective
Your healing rain is less effective
It just becomes much more difficult keep everyone top which is why we're seeing so much personal play in that admission with
Personals health stones and health potions all essentially being assigned in that spot plot twist rest of druid time. Nope. Oh
Come on big spread healing. They could do it all they do they do some spread healing
Mm-hmm. I don't know that I'd call it big
It's so mean
Did that time must come back again? No, no really touch rank for never forget
All the way back in the day. We could get the rest of Druid play a big trunk in the middle huge trunk actually
Think about it
You could you could
If it were a good button everyone
Let's steal things too much.
Ooh, all right.
Oh, wow, we are going to give you some free stuff, guys.
That is the play.
That is how we're going to save Echo during my time.
It is Roger's treasure trove.
And a giveaway there.
It's literally a challenge channel points,
I can say the words.
The channel points, they've been accumulating
while following the race world first.
These are absolutely free points
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If you stick them in, you contribute them now.
You can see it's racking up there.
It's a quarter of a million jammed right into Roger's box.
You get those in there now.
If we hit two million, then we have got some stuff to give away for you,
which is a whole array of things from Corsair stuff, El Gato stuff,
a Mythic Boost, including the mounts.
We've got a bunch of display stuff.
We've got some merch, jerseys from the Echo stuff.
Look at all this. Wowpets, trunks, bodies.
A life-sized Roger Brown facility that you can use as a body pillow.
That's the best prize of all.
It's a really big level of work that went into color matching him and stuff.
that is way more than ever necessary.
But you can see all those things that are ready in range.
We've got a bunch of envelopes over here,
but Team Crab and Team Spider.
So go ahead and get your channel points in, guys.
And rack them up.
You're at half a million already,
with 1.5 million left to go.
Let's storm through it and give some stuff away
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For you guys being here during the race to world first
and joining us here as we're trying
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We can over here in Germany.
and tons of amazing prizes.
And the only thing you can use channel points for
are redeeming these prizes.
We're gonna give all of them away
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So send them in.
It's going to the bar.
It's going.
It's going faster and faster and faster.
Yes.
Ramp it up.
And Jesse's absolutely right.
You're not holding these,
you're not banking these for anything else.
This is all we're using them for during this race.
They're individuals of this channel.
So don't worry about it.
You don't need to save them
because there might be something special later.
I just took a look at the the healing potion usage and almost every single person sends a healing potion in that first center mission
It is essentially an assigned cool down using healing potion to not die in here because we can't stack up for the raid healing
Oh, I suspect that tracker just broke as you absolutely stormed it
Unlikely no one can choose one channel points in the last 30 seconds. That seems very unusual for a they're spending the channel
Don't worry guys, it's probably just the tracker on our screen that is
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Probably looking at, like I said,
trying to figure out what they're
going to do strategically in the intermission
to improve their performance there.
Once you have a consistent several wipes in the intermission
due to too many people getting hit,
it no longer becomes an issue of individual play.
Just play better is not something
that we're going to use as a strategy.
we're gonna try to make it easier to play better
by reducing likelihood that you get clipped
by other people's places,
and also increasing the healing throughput in that area
is probably gonna be pretty important too.
What can we do to make it safer for everybody?
What kind of buttons can we push?
Our mastery has very high value in the intermission
because it's one of those few spread,
damage reduction cooldowns, rallying cry,
has a good lot of value there.
And then in the phases of phase one, phase two,
and phase three, outside of the intermission,
that's when you get bigger value from things
like spirit language,
truly truly get value from stacking in one location so I also wonder if we're
gonna see potentially some comp changes at some point I wouldn't be surprised to
see Ryzen try discipline out see if that failure gets some good value yeah I
just go for a higher absorb level nuts just row rowing pure three-poop yeah
there's a few options here we are in the Grimbatoll it is a fun boss a
little bit surprising people because Grimbatoll of course was in the
pre mythic plus era and they redesigned it a little bit for becoming a mythic plus
you read another level nine. You knew if the dragons were the beginning.
I wouldn't know, I didn't play back then. You'd really? Yeah I'm not surprised though.
You're talking about the dragons that bombard the trash. If they're too strong it could potentially
trivialize a large portion of the run. Oh no, less trashy mythic plus one.
Well I mean don't you want to play your character instead of you? There's plenty of dungeon left,
it's only the intro to the dungeon fair enough. Absolutely, there's lots left. I actually
I actually think they didn't do it for toxicity reasons
Like if you did I could imagine if they'd left it the old way because the way it used to work when we did this on heroic is that in
Some runs you would eradicate the entire pathway between the start and this boss and then sometimes somebody would be trolling and
You would kill nothing and you'd have all the trash left to kill mm-hmm if that happened in your mythic plus
I could see people just like you guys if I'm leaving true
I am I am straight leaving you guys didn't do the proper strategy with the
With the bombardment so I'm out of here. I do still think that strategy with the bombardment is gonna become a big part of
Mdi runs if you if you hit the right trash packs and the right mob
It's gonna make a lot of them easier and there's some really hard packs in that in that little gauntlet very very difficult
I haven't done a single with it. Plus. Yeah, I'm hoping to do one today
I've got a raid after this and then maybe some maplode to have some fun with I have done several
But I've depleted most of them because every time I start a mythic plus something interesting
I'm leaving! I gotta go do the analyst test, but of course, I'm only playing with friends who understand and want me to go do the work.
I'm not playing with randoms. It would be upset that I've deleted their key just right now.
No, that's fine.
Work comes first right now, so only people who understand when I have to abandon them will I be playing with right now.
But we have done the right thing.
The randoms who are like, why does he leave us?
Who is this scumbag, Jesus, he keeps abandoning keys.
I don't actually know what this how this affix works with the baubles with the blue balls
I haven't I haven't given us blue balls. Is that literally what are you talking about the orb spawning? Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, that's zalatath zalatath's blessing or curse you need to kill or disrupt them in order to get rid of all of them
Um, and if you do so correctly you get a buff if you fail to do it successfully the trash gets above instead
Okay, that's the uh seasonal affix essentially kind of funny blizzard making it the blue balls. I see
I mean, it is what it is, right? Did I color them? Did you design the toe ring? No, I didn't
do any of these things. I did nothing. Did I design the cut seams or have them dangling
its toes right in front of the camera? No, I did not. No, but you're glad they did.
I mean, I saw it. Yeah. And I went, this bus actually very, very hard has a phase
where it pulls out an axe and just crushes your tank. Yeah, kind of faithful to the
This is how his boss works all the way back.
This is one of the least changed bosses, I would say.
I'm surprised how difficult they made a Karen for his Valiant or Rathorallian.
You know what I'm actually saying, I don't know, I want to know what it does, because it says the Rider.
The Dragon Fight, I've seen most wipes there.
Obviously it's the Precursor, so the raid fighting, the Basine of Twilight Raid.
You end up fighting them again there, but it's...
You're going to get some sort of reaction on this.
with all this nostalgia.
And there's no nostalgia, that's a funny boss.
That's not nostalgic for that fight, believe me,
that fight was awful.
Absolutely horrendous boss fight, not fun at all.
And certainly not for any 10 man guild
that tried to attempt it on heroic
in the first months of Cataclysm,
where they forgot to change the values
of the ads from 25 man to 10.
Hilarious and unchanged.
You think we struggle now with nerfs?
We've had like several changes to,
but imagine waiting months for the change.
Good times.
True enough, but these times Blizzard is saying
much more on top of the race world first
than doing their absolute best
to make a well tuned series of bosses.
And a lot of people were frightened coming
into normal Herok Week,
seeing the bosses kind of flop over kind of an easy tier.
Worried this was going to be a short race.
Looks like that will not be the case
with bosses five and six presenting
a significant challenge.
Those are the blue balls, but they didn't get blue balls.
You see they pick up 10 stacks of something
It gives them 2% haste per stack and 2% move speed per stack, which is useful on this boss when you're evading his axe phase.
You can't get meleeed at all during that.
Yeah, it's really nasty. I think there's, I've seen quite a lot of reports of tanks not knowing.
Not knowing what to do there and saying they know and just getting instantly clobbered to the floor.
However, we would like to say that it's in the chat. If you are Tannick, DK, is that your name? Is that you?
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Yes.
So the guys can do it, but if you're just tuning in, the guys are doing Mythic Princess, they're currently doing Wine Time.
They're changing something, will we?
We went directly into Mythic Progression today. No splits necessary.
Praise be, they are calling to be tweaking their strategy, because it is a very difficult boss.
They're going to have conversations and make sure that they try to do this as clean as possible,
But they've been getting some solid practice in progressing down to 44% and more importantly seeing the end of the fight
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We pulled the boss, they're back. That's true we are done with Y-time break over let's see
what they've tweaked in their strategy so far. Looking at the exact same we're
placing these portals equidistant around the boss and then the Queen's
Banes from people who had the portals go out aim their balls away from the boss and then slide through the portals into the
Maximizing their casting and damage uptime now importantly we're going to be doing the first set of charges
Looks like we're still rotating the first charges around the room in order to get a death mask
Dispelled by charging through the boss one death mask dispelled there
This is a difficult overlap both Queens Banes expiring with balls flying everywhere and dagger slices going through the raid
Everyone needs to play dodge ball done successfully as we go into round number two. Okay. Okay. That was really cool
We have an even use the gumball. Oh, yeah, I didn't see you died. Yep. Somebody did get to earlier
I don't know it was so fast. Yeah, I think we're looking at the same strategy phase one and maybe a different strategy and intermission
So that's all oh Robin gets clipped. I think Robin got hit at the same time the boss mellied him and that was it
That's all you need
I was gonna take it looks like they're gonna send this home. I think our trackers just off because there's our battle race. Oh
That's yeah, that's why I thought I didn't see anybody die. I was paying attention
We just lost zero however. We're gonna get one more suck here. God don't go a lot of raid damage
This is where they're typically using their health potions because we're setting up to go in the intermission
After getting sucked off means we're very low health and this intermission hits very very hard
Let's see if they change their strategy here. I do see some players playing
really far out. You look at the map. The mages are on the far out. Zazi has gone down,
has the yank available. Asda's clicks. Yep. Asda Sharma's down. Yeah, look at the mages
right at the back doing their best to give as much room with these blaze lines as possible.
But it's still not quite there. It still hurts. It's still not clean in the middle.
You can see how cramped and tight it is in the middle, even with this very, very
heavy rain comp. True. Rising using the GS there to get through. Zazi waiting
We only have 3 DPS dead, which means we get some very good practice here in phase 2 and phase 2.
We have 4 death masks to the spell, so Mirrors and Robin need to make sure that they intercept one point of intersection here, where two of the death masks are going to land.
Remember if they reload 10%, not if they die, it's about 10% that they will die. So when you see Sol there, they are exactly like that.
like that, thank you Jinji for demonstrating, I appreciate it. It's not whether the mechanic
actually kills you, it's whether it takes you to 10% is what's going to cause the execute
here. But the healers are alive and it's the healers who need the most practice right now.
The DPS is utterly irrelevant. The DPS needs to work on movement. So you should have been
fine there.
You should have been, but not clipped.
Exactly. So there's some issue there with the positioning of the charges that
leading to that because Ryzen not stood particularly out of position there that central that central
hexagon should be fine and it wasn't it wasn't this is going to be a little bit of a body review
because they've set this fight up in a way that should be replicable all through every single pole
every single phase because they have two charges one configured rotating around the room which
will have particular safe spots especially in the middle and then one go where every single
ad gets charged through the middle which will have safe spots in the interstitial space between
those inter cardinals that should be safe reliably every single time if it's not something's gone wrong
and they need to fix it. Yep well hopefully they're gonna go back in. No wine time don't do it.
Well I call this wine time we might need to look and see what happened to make rice and go down.
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I'm going for dinner.
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There will be a time. We're all together as one.
No one cares about time.
True. Where we can all work together.
Okay, last time Alex ruined it. Alex ruined it. I was sick. How dare he again every time every tear
Yeah, it's just a waste of time with that kid
Bad health bad timing bad him bad hair wait what no good. Yeah, it's glorious. Yeah glorious. The jelly is real
It is very real. Yeah, although he's a use of hairpins is questionable. Well, he's lost all his hair ties
He came here with hair ties and he's wandering around. Where did they go?
Yeah, I promised I was going to the supermarket. I gave him some when I just never went.
I'm so devilish and evil.
True, everyone knows it.
He's probably busy looking at toes instead.
Exactly what else could I be doing in Germany? There is nothing else in the glorious sunlight.
In fact, it is really hot.
It's actually quite nice.
Yeah, it's gone really nice.
I took a six kilometer walk here in Cologne the other day just to look around the town.
Really enjoyed seeing the architecture and structure of the city. Very different than the American city.
Cathedral I went downtown instead. Okay. Yeah, you should have a walk up the cathedral. It's quite if I haven't been there yet
I saw it when I was coming in on an uber a large black building in the background. It's a beautiful cathedral
It is beautiful. Yeah, you can go right to the top. It's nice
It's a hell of a walk. There's like 15 minute walk up to the top all stairs. So yeah, but you should be fine
I know when me and Emma went up there Emma was not fine. Oh
She did not like it too many stairs. She did it but she was like this is like the biggest waste of time
Well they are wine timing yet again, they're doing a lot of this, obviously they're not
happy with the strategy.
Yep, something needs fixed.
Yeah, they regularly bring into problems.
Like Jesse said, if this is happening, yes it's different people, but it's happening
a lot, something's not right because they're better than that.
Yeah.
Or ironically, like that shouldn't be a thing.
Absolutely.
We can understand the swirly's on, say, Bruteswister because like that was nightmare
graphically for them to deal with.
Yeah, sure, we can get that and causing, like, dying and then missing the egg, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And even that, you know, any time that people are consistently dying to something, there's only so much you can gain by saying play better, right?
We want to progress. Saying play better doesn't help you progress.
Even with the Swirlies, they did little tactical tweaks to try to make it easier.
For example, aiming the boss in such a way that the tail wasn't occluding your view of the floor as they moved across the room.
Little tweaks that you can do like that make things significantly easier to execute on otherwise very difficult mechanics.
that you could simply attribute to play better, but Roger's never satisfied with that.
He wants to find a strategic solution.
So most likely fixing that, they have a strategy that should be replicable throughout the entire
course of the fight if they can tweak out exactly what's causing people to get clipped
by charges or get clipped by orbs or in the intermission have too many blades in one
place.
I assume we're going to see Mini come back up here as we're going to his boss.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
This boss is really nasty.
things do a lot of damage these fire blazes yep the nines are no joke no the
nines are no joke which is that's that's the best for the ball I think so yeah we
want all nines I've only done a full one dungeon gives you your first box I
believe and then another three for your second perhaps seven for all no I'm not
entirely sure it's like 15 so it used to be a lot yeah it used to be such a
chill they've significantly made it easy and also one of the entire lines of
You're welcome. You feel just by doing world activities like old quests or delves. Yeah, I assume lower item level though, right?
Depending on what you do if you do delves you can get a pretty high item level not matching that the guy mobile
But still quite good. In fact, I got a piece of heroic item level tier from my box this week from delves. That's cool
Yeah, did you have you done the little solo mini boss? I haven't had time yet. Okay
It's great. I did I did delves on the first two days and then stop because we were getting busy
Yes, things start to ramp up. So I did it. I was the same first week. I did quite a few Dells
I've done a couple
One of our time a little bit, but I want to spend some time weirdly enough even being here for us
I'm the time so I sit and play. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, that's great
Spend all of our time actually like watching polls and seeing what's happening and you know doing some analysis
I'm put some segments together for the chat very little time spent playing wow right now
No, a little bit the time will come true now. It will happen
but it's not going to be right now because the guys are double checking and triple checking.
They're all there. They're all there working. Can we get Roger and Scrype POVC if they're
currently having a conversation with their players? Looking at something on the other screen
with Roger talking about the strategy. Yep. So for those who want to get caught up on what
we're doing, we have been pulling Mythic all day. Mythic Brew Twister going down late last
night. Not too late. They went to bed on time, putting Echo at 5 out of 8 along with
liquid. Several of the guilds getting very very close both Method and the Hugh
Heroes Chinese Guild at 1% on Brew Twister so soon going to have a
four-way and then five-way race on the Nexus Princess. Echo came in this morning
no time wasted, strategic conversation, planning straight into pulls, no splits
where you've been pulling all day, a couple of breaks to sort out their
strategy that they've been tweaking but they have a very good strat that
should be replicable through the entire fight and we're gonna highlight it
Here for you as they spread the first round of portals around the room the tank places the last one
That's going to start a little bit of raid damage coming in
But the group can kind of just chill in the middle and ideally dodge all of the incoming Queen's Bane's orbs
Perfectly done now. We're going to be going into that first round of charges a little bit of lag there
But that's okay where Mirius is going to intercept one or two of these death masks
Okay, we're getting one there
That's okay because the other two will get dispelled as they go through the middle
We did lose both Rycin and Sho to those charges.
Some things not right there.
Still, whatever it is, it's just not quite right.
That is very consistently killing one to two people.
Near enough every single pole.
So whatever it is, it's not quite right.
Some positioning in the chart.
Intricate positioning necessary.
We're gonna save the battle res for Rycin
after his spirit of redemption
and then pick him back up.
There it is.
I think he actually had a soul stone
as we deal with the second charges.
Everyone survived that.
What the hell?
But that's for the Queensbane up.
So we have six people that have very heavy dots
ticking on them right now.
And then Orbs coming out with the lines.
If you get clipped, you will die.
Play dodge ball professionally, everybody.
Yeah, you've got to remain so calm while this is happening.
And obviously we've seen that some people,
like Meera's HP there, is terrifying.
Because that red stagger is dragging him down.
And anytime he drops balls, Tan is going to be executed.
It's so terrifying.
Now, this is the bit that they have tweaked this.
Let's see what's happening here.
One tweak already going is that they sent all
personals before the intermission,
and then we saw a symbol of hope right before the
intermission requiring them to push their
personals again, which is very high value.
That's something that works even when you are
spread out.
Look at these micro movements to get out of
the slicers and minimize the movement of the
blazes so far.
Everyone alive dealing with their blazes.
You can see from the minimap we have
significantly more spreading than we had
earlier in these pulls.
We owe just those Frago, but only one person
lost on the very last round of blazes.
that went significantly better than before.
They have done some improvements there,
going into a nice phase two.
That is nice to see.
So definitely some changes there
that have immediately made some sort of difference.
That final one where every single person in the raid
gets blaze is horrific.
Yeah, yeah, it's a necessary blizz.
And it is necessary.
We want them to suffer.
This is a great boss.
Yeah, I'm just worried about Smother Guilds
getting here like, bro.
Oh, rising your health.
Gotta stay above 10%, everyone surviving, but this is a huge spike of damage.
Like we talked about with Jaina, this feels like it's tactical now.
They always float around there, but I think it's consistently okay.
Not okay there, that was the charge again.
That was the charge, but I think he was supposed to have a charge, he just was
insufficiently top before, oh no, you hate to see it.
He took the Onk Totem, was too low, took a ticket, rare damage, died, executed again.
But, importantly, we are dealing with the last set of sucking in here before we get that second set of dashes which will dispel the final two death masks.
You can see those two red glowing clones here on the left and right going to go right through the boss.
No one can get clipped here.
Good.
Only the people who are supposed to get hit got hit.
The dots going to tick down are going to get a set of daggers and orbs at the same time.
Professional gaming.
Yeah, all this spread down, see that, keep that middle area nice and clear for absolutely everybody.
This is, I know it's a scuff. This is the cleanest we've seen them get there.
Yeah, so yes, good scuff.
One last suck going into the second intermission and we can see if we can replicate the first intermission
because again, the boss isn't permanently buffed here.
All the death masks are spelled. We're going into an intermission that's similar to the first one
as long as we play well. A little bit tighter grouped, not as well spread out as we have been in the past.
No, there's this is where it gets a little risky with all these people being close together
Obviously some deaths so it's not quite as accurate, but they're almost coming through this again
So well me up starts to cascade so much because once people are dead though their their blazes still go out
You just get more blazes in your nose everybody with blaze now. They all get it, which is so brutal people had to yeah
This is yeah, it's really nasty
But they're coming into the final phase where they'd have to do all of the death masses five total and the boss will
be permanently buffed on the second version of this so you'll see they've
dropped these portals just as they've done the last two times. We'll get used
these two to do two death masks. That's the one that'll run out. Yep, Mirren's
going to be finding a intersection. This is actually very easy for him to do,
right? Every single clone is death mask. All he needs to do is stand on one of
the portal intersections. These charges are configured on the first
charge to rotate around the room in such a way that you always have two
intersecting at each of these cardinal points and he can go to
anyone he wants. All of them are debuffed, he doesn't have to find anything specific.
As long as the players aim them correctly, she'll pick up two death masks. This is so
well done, Ryzen unfortunately getting clipped and going to be going down, so we're now going
to be three healing the remainder of this phase. But the second charge is easy, though
there are three, well easy to dispel the death masks. There are three more death
masks, but all three of them will just go charging straight through the middle, instantly
dispelling. But the boss is going to pick up three stacks of her damage buff that
will be permanently on her for the remainder of the fight.
She's at 47% so there's a lot of health to get through
with happy raid dead and her permanently buffed.
Yeah, and now, there you go, she's gonna see that.
Look at that, she's got a 30% damage buff.
That is now for the remainder of the fight,
but you might be saying,
dude, she's got half health left.
Don't worry, the enrage is about to happen.
The fight should be over in the next like 40 seconds
or so, because we're looking at about six and a half.
Look at that suck damage,
just pulling the health bars down.
You have three healers with only healing six people.
So they're taking care of themself
and one other person.
And the HPS is still almost insufficient.
Here are the 30% buffed intermission blazes
just choking their health.
70% HP each blaze takes.
And look, Athena has two.
You get no one because people are dead.
Velo's got two.
He's got eight.
And another one.
And another one.
And another one.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
This is a little bit of a cascade effect
Because every person that's dead can't soak their share of the blazes.
Those blazes get allocated to other people and it's just overwhelming amounts of damage
when she's buffed in that final intermission with a 30% damage buff
because she inevitably is forced to take three death mask charges
at the same time permanently buffing her damage for the rest of the fight.
Ideally you'd want her down, you know, 10-20% at that point.
Ideally, I think my message is loud and clear.
So everybody watching this right now, you're not allowed to die.
Yep.
It's not allowed.
As soon as you do, there's more blazes on you.
And when it gets to the 30% damage buff, it's not going to have to deal with it all the way through, you know,
Everyone needs to be alive, or you just won't live.
Those blazers are doing 60, 70% of your health when you only have one of them.
You are just stacking more and more and more ways of somebody getting clapped.
Like, if you get double blaze at that point, it's game over.
Still, that was a very successful pull.
Only the second time we have seen and gotten through the third phase with the five death masks
into that final intermission.
So wonderful to see that they got there.
We need to start working on consistency
through practice and optimization of the strategy.
Make sure no one's getting clipped early.
People are topped before their charge.
Really important treehouse healing on this fight.
The healers have to be able to quickly identify
exactly those people who are supposed to get hit
by the charge, who are supposed to have the Queen's
Vane and need that priority healing.
No one else getting hit, so you don't have surprises
sucking up resources that you needed to vote.
We're going again.
Let's go!
No one time.
They've run out of wine.
They've run out of ideas. It's now continue practicing, which is important.
This boss is very hard and practice will make perfect enough to kill the boss.
Yeah. I mean, you need more people to see the entirety of the fight, because that is it.
Well, you just saw that this fight is over just a few seconds after it.
The fill the room will fill.
She'll no longer lead gaps in the pizza slices.
The room will just be full.
There'll be nowhere to go and you're going to be dead.
So you keep an eye on that combat timer while we're doing this
because the six and a half minutes is where it is probably going to end.
You can limp a little bit around there, but a little bit.
But it's not 50% of the boss HP limp.
Not anymore.
Not with the severity of the execute on this fight.
It just slaughters you under 10%.
That last 10% of your health just does not count,
which is surprising to people who are used to relying on DR
or immunities that come into a play under that 10% mark.
But they're not particularly worthwhile here.
You cheat death, and then you just
right afterwards.
First set of portals coming out.
They require some priority healing,
because they're going to get a Queensbane ticking down
on their health bars.
And then they're going to be sending these orbs out,
positioned in such a way as to make it easier for the middle
to dodge.
And then they slide in between the portals
as the boss pulls them into the middle.
Well done.
Yeah, nice.
And Pixel stacks here as well for the charges.
Oh, is there was health, please?
I know.
It's horrendous.
I'm not becoming a fan of looking at frames anymore
because they're bouncing around so much.
All right.
We picked up one death mask dispel there, no problem.
That's actually ideal, because then we're
going to have two easily happening with no problem on the second charge through
the middle coming after these orbs play dodge ball, excellent gamers, yeah there's
the res going out on to Fraggo to get him back on his feet as the sucks about
to come in to the spirit link making this a dangerous shaman time shaman time
this is the moment where the shaman brings huge value we also have a wind
totem on the ground to make you able to run out faster dodging these
charges success and both death masks of course naturally going right through the
middle easily to spell boss doing 20% more damage right now so you can't get
hit they are taking the land hands but unfortunately Robin going down with no
battle as available means that we're going to be suffering once we get out
of this. We're gonna rub our face in the board. That's good to see we're not
dragging anymore like they've seen the end of the fight twice now now it's
Repstar like you just said. You just made me think of something though Jesse.
Everybody who may have decided their class, perhaps based on the fact that they do have
Ankh, they are susceptible to occasionally getting hit by things and it's okay because
I have this extra life Mario style.
And then the boss just took it away from you.
Yep, we've seen it a couple of times now.
Someone takes that Ankh totem or Ankhs and then comes up, takes a raid damage, back
on the time I said, dad, you better be spamming the health potion as you read,
the health zone as you rise there. You're in a lot of danger. Cheat death, reduced value,
talents that reduce the damage you take under certain health thresholds, reduced value.
Do we have a glyph that restores you with a bit more HP?
There used to be. I don't know if this thing lives. I don't know.
Got this with so many spells.
We have seen Onc Totem getting moved though. They had the Onc Totem in the intermission at
first. It looks like they're not moving that to after the first intermission. So it's
good to see as we get more and more comfortable in earlier parts, we're committing resources
later and later where things continue to be trickier as they work on this practice.
Pinging a repair bot, everybody repair!
146 pulls for Liquid to reach the 21% mark.
Echo now at 40, just racking them up real fast.
And you see why, this is such a short fight that if it wasn't for the excessive wine drinking Echo,
there would probably be about 50 or 60 by now.
Yeah, I would imagine.
But this...
Nice fumes is like, so I just killed the boss, right?
Yeah, I'm a demon hunter. What am I gonna do?
I mean, he does have an important role.
darkness, very high value there when everyone's stacked in the middle of that healing rain.
So many small ticks of constant damage coming in, because every time there are clones up,
all of those clones are pulsing shadow damage on everyone in the raid every two seconds.
And every time the boss sends those nether portals, that also pulses a spike of damage
onto everyone in the raid.
So huge amounts of ticking damage are where darkness does insanely good value.
So it's doing a significant amount of healing while they're stacked up there in the
middle.
freezing. Uh, Skype has been designated in control of the air conditioning in the room. Uh, so
kosh will be cold. They're all wearing jumpers. I'm just not as perfectos in a hood.
He likes to use his jumper. I think Mira's, Mira's got his coat on yet.
And, uh, Skype, uh, nice and toasty.
Yeah. Yeah.
Right at the head of the room.
I think he has claved the air con controller.
Yes, he is in control of the thermostat.
That is the dad's role, right? The dad controls the thermostat in every household.
Isn't that right?
Uh, that is not true in my house.
None mine either.
It's absolutely not true in my house.
She knows what she does and she knows it annoys me.
Yeah.
My daughter's controlled the thermostat in my house as well.
And they're all cold.
They're always cold.
So put on a sweater.
And listen, this is just rationality at work, right?
If you're too cold, you can put on a sweater.
What am I supposed to do when I get too hot?
Right.
Yeah.
And stop forgetting you've left it on.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the OK.
This is a full dad conversation.
stop and dash for a moment. We're going to do another call. No, I can relate to our nightmare
that we live every day. It's one of the glories of course. The only reason I come to the race
world first is so I can have my own thermostat. It's like a little power play. I like the whole
play of my own. Finally be comfortable in my own home. I'm like, no, I'm in control.
An illusion. An illusion. You're never in control. This is a lust on pole angle,
perhaps looking for a little bit of DPS checking. We're no longer sending those progress
healer lusts may have been a misclick. We saw something similar happen on
Brutus or they lusted on pole once and then said no we're not doing that again.
We also have Mutiny during the last raid if you remember.
Skrype refused to move the Pharax lusts. Oh yeah. The guys Mutiny didn't lust it
anyway so he subscribes and non-ins.
They organized and he read. Reves falling to about 11% HP there
and pretty sure but he's still alive. They have slammed the Hellstone.
They've all got a week where it's saying to pop something if they get under 15%
to prevent them going to 10. Unfortunately a lot of mechanics do 80% of your health. If you're at 90% when you get hit,
you're under 10% when you get come out of the head, but we're heading into the
charges. Now,
middle charges. They got a week where I say middle charges now because there's two dodge configurations.
Yep, you need to dodge one way on the first charges, which go rotating around the boss,
and then you need to go one way when you're dodging the middle charges.
That's it. Repeat it every single time.
You aim them the same way and then dodge the same way over and over and over throughout this fight.
But everyone alive with a combat res available as we go to the last suck of this phase
This is an extremely good pull thus far. Yeah, legitimately. This is the best they have ever done
So this is nice to see also want to see all the course of the day getting a good metric of our DPS
The boss has three phases and three intermissions
Ideally you'd be at around 66% coming out of this first intermission
We'll have to see what it turns into as they did pop bloodlust on pole now everyone spreading out to try to live through
these dodges, we do have unfortunately Wolf Disco going down. You'll probably take a battle
reds if no one more important dies for the rest of this intermission. Here comes the mega
blaze, the last one is everybody has it. So you'll see all these, there they are. There
it is. Very good. Not bad. Not bad. We're likely to see a battle reds coming on a Wolf Disco,
the boss at 69%. So with the bloodlust having been committed, that means we're at several
percent off of potential kill range, however still excellently done and
potentially something that they can optimize and find some more damage. We're
going into a our best ever phase two with everyone alive coming out of the
end of mission. Maki well done guys. Okay, I can't it's horrible. This is just
exactly like the first phase. Nothing has changed for the players. They're gonna
to aim these charges the exact same way, but our health is very low. No spirit
link available to get everyone topped. Pryo healing on the debuffed members who
are about to take a charge and then tick down through the Queen's Bane two of the
death masks, the spelled there, which is exactly correct as we need to play dodge
ball. Unfortunately, Flex and Than are both getting clipped by one too many of
these balls and lines. That's alright. One healer down is gonna make this
significantly more difficult because she's going to take another two
death masks increasing her damage temporarily by 20% which is why dodging is so punishing there. If
you get clipped, you're getting clipped by 20% buffed damage event. Yeah, I think Klick's spammed
heal himself there. That was the only way he was staying alive. He's suffering. Practice to get
executed. That's it. And yeah. And Ryzen down. Mace seems an X-E range. Robin's an X-E range.
It gets so catastrophically difficult once you have a healer go down. It's a complete house of
cards this whole fight is a complete house of cards once you start pulling a
couple away the whole thing just crumbles so fast hopeful smile doing what
majors do blasting well clicks is demonstrating some shami power there
who is absolutely I mean he's been dead for a while and only now I think at one
point is about five percent ahead of everybody else I think he's the only
melee in the raid that doesn't provide some kind of a raid buff right
Revis providing that warrior buff, Rogue providing the 3% DR for the raid, Demon Hunter giving
you that Chaos Brand.
The Guardian Druid is providing the same buff.
Yeah, well the Guardian Druid is doing the Mark of the Wild with versatility, so they
don't need clicks in.
They do have another Shaman providing that Sky Fury, so he's the only one that's in
there because he just does really, really good damage.
Everyone else is in there because they do good damage and provide him.
Look at the run-in!
Revis!
Revis trying to kite!
That's the tank buster can't live through that that we just kite the boss
Yeah, she's got these little scooty feet
That is in the roots over and on what yeah, these rifts are in to death
Yeah, let's get the next pull ads actually that I mean that is fully accurate to the cutscene
I don't if you've seen the cutscene where she gets the it's like in Goku show where they
Chases chases you weaves out
You should immediately be giving beers for that crap.
Weeps away, burn it away.
But yeah, when they're ascended, they do get the zoomies and Sprintzus has the zoomies.
Zoomies.
She's looking for zoomies.
But that was a great poll.
That was the best health percentage.
But remember, health percentage is kind of a completely...
It's an illusion.
It's not kind of.
It's completely irrelevant right now.
The only thing that that might slightly indicate is how far into the fight we've gotten,
which is important.
was the best poll ever coming out into that second phase. Also speaking of
zoomies, look at the preservation 2.5 million HPS. Absolutely blessing. Those
of you in chat may be wondering, okay, well fine, replace the Holy Paladin with
another preservation invoker, and that could be on their minds, but you can't
just stack preservation invokers, which provide almost exclusively big bursts of
raid healing. You also need very important triage single target healing
in order to make sure that the people who are targeted with unavoidable
mechanics, don't go low right before they get hit and then get under 10% and die. If you're at 90% or under, when you take one of those charges, you get to 10% because it does 80% of your life and you become diseased. So holy shocks and beacon of virtue, providing a lot of cushion there, preventing those deaths. We need the triage priority healing as well being provided primarily by Rycen and Thaner, a little bit lower on the overall healing meters that are being bolstered by big AOE healing coming from the engulfs, healing rain and spirit link.
I put everything they did there to put into play obviously works. Yeah, they had it really
They were so it was instantly smoother. You're wondering why they do do these wine times. It's not to troll us
I see stripes got a camera on us. He's just watching you
He sees the viewer count says, you know, it'd be really funny right now. Let's take a break
Why don't we put on the we're not streaming screen now?
Let's do that. Hey, no, that's not any time that the
the mind sooth goes on the boss it means it writes and thinks that none of that
none of that we know what they're not going to bed in half an hour I know that
that's not happening oopsie a little bit of reset necessary we got too close got
poked roly-poly little bream master roly-poly get yourself out of there
Christian doesn't even look look into the monitor what's going on yeah I'm
broke okay I'll banish it they're always look so positive you and keep
He's keeping the Morala.
Well, he's had an interesting week.
He spent so far other than this boss, the hardest boss of the tier, Brute Twister, taking a full
day of progression over the course of two different days.
He's playing Rhett.
What a timeline.
The Holy Paladin no longer in the raid, done an entire raid boss without a Holy Paladin.
Who would have imagined that happening in modern WoW?
Don't need that aura mastery.
What we need is our Holy Paladin swinging a big hammer.
I'm trying to, I'm looking here.
I think only about eight or nine members of the raid team
have stuck with one class of role since this raid started.
True.
Here has been Blood and Brewmaster,
Robin's been Blood, Frost, and Guardian.
And Guardian, Kush has been a rogue,
nice meeting to say it is, Reves has been the arms.
Nope, nice meeting to say it.
Nice meeting to play the vengeance.
Yes, he did, so no, he doesn't count either.
Clicks has been one, Wolf Disco has been
both Warrior and Brew Twister, Wolf Disco,
and Warlock here.
Did he stuck on the mage, as is hopeful?
Yeah.
They've been pretty existing.
As is Rycin, I don't think Rycin's played anything
but Priest's.
He has however done both disc and holy.
That's true, he's played baseball roles.
I mean, it's kind of weird time.
We had M.M. on Markman for Sol.
Beastmastery for this on this fight.
Yeah, yeah.
Wacky. Absolutely wacky raid design.
Brutal testing the skill levels of these players
to the limits.
I think Wexie was primarily working on Warlocks,
but now in on a fourth arcane mage.
So yeah, a huge amount of multi-classing, multi-rolling
even on this tier.
It's been a wild timeline.
Heading into another pool here.
We're looking for these charges to be well executed
and no one could accidentally clip.
This is charge configuration one.
This middle should be safe.
As they rotate them around,
the boss picks up one death mask,
which is by design.
The other two will come off in the second charge.
Dodgeball, this is just watch your feet.
Don't send it through the boss. Thank you very good. All right
There's so many micro things needing to happen those orbs need to make sure that they're not flying through the middle
Or they'll clip some melee currently tunneling on the boss now we get middle charges
So a different configuration being safe
You need to get in between these lines in the safe spaces between the interstitials attacks coming in from inter cardinals
Oh, right and gets clipped by two. Yeah, that goes into spirit form. Ain't no good
Oh, not that certainly with the intermission coming up, which is the most healing intensive part of the fight
Not that this is more hit by orbs here
So we're gonna use the combat rise on writes in after spirit of redemption
Yeah, and then after the intermission if we come out alive quick, so use the on but we're so low
Okay, right and immediately rescue. Please top everyone really sending the him
You don't want to come yeah, you don't want to start this on half-elf
That's not ideal by any means so we'll see how they play this fast bridge look how far
It is trying to display time play there. Oh, yeah
Well, that was rapid all to time play that you're doing another prismatic barrier going out the majors trying to help everyone stay alive
I've been hearing everyone with the a we barrier very very good a bloodlust to try to recover here. Oh
Okay, so Ryzen is in spirit of redemption with the on tone available afterwards there. He takes it
Yeah, it counts as some pops.
Not bad, so three dits in the arc.
So we're going in with three down.
Better.
Yeah, it's still better, consistently better.
Not perfect by any means.
Yeah, I mean, you can see now, hopefully,
it's pulling off those little tricks and stuff
that comes with practice.
Like, this is fine.
I just need to be more comfortable with the fight
and blasting.
I know exactly when I can do what I need to do.
Yep.
Make your work and see what's going to be all-time props.
Moving out to the very far edge.
That's right.
It's so pretty, right?
So pretty.
Now we're gonna be dealing with the boss soaking two death masks in these upcoming charges
Which means it's the following orbs plus lines are doing 20% more damage. We need very good
Oh, no, we had a positioning error there. Yeah
Everyone looks so comfy. Yeah, it's a very replicable strap, but it's so fast-paced for fight. Yes
He really is a case of figure out where it's coming from. You could see hopeful was looking around a little second
He's like, okay, let's right clockwise. Yeah around here and then off to this one
Got there and then met up with another friend, which is not gonna work out and not friend so in that case
Go there
That would work. I mean that was a that was a strategic
Strategic entry. I'm looking at the problem
I just want to point out production is like fucking Michael live this prompt. Yeah, I mean, it's very rude. Yeah, production's so toxic
But we can have can we have a high you know a pat on the back from everyone in chat some applause and hearts for our
underappreciated production team working all through the day giving us these wonderful notes really helping us carry the show along by
giving us this amazing prompt. Fuck you, Mike. Constantly in our ears giving us
ideas of interest and content to feed you guys. We're the visible face, but they
are the heart and soul of the show. Thank you so much.
Wow. Yeah, you get muted. This is
politicking at work. We know exactly, we know exactly where the bread is
He's buttered.
You're still muted.
Yeah, we don't need him.
We don't need him.
It's wine time anyway.
You do see the minesweeds going up, which is usually indication that Wrightson thinks
that a pole might be imminent.
We've given up on the mill.
Oh, I like to play now.
Yeah, I guess you can come out of the doghouse.
Yeah, so I'm not greasing the pole there, hope to make sure I can come back, right?
That's the way it's gotta be.
But you're correct.
productions okay hard-carried by Elgato but whatever true my business I've got a
button you know Elgato providing ammunition to both sides we do have a
pull time we're coming up which is good let's get let's get on sending it
change those polls we are good pull before lunch so that the guys who won't
get lunch because they're the ones we work on the stuff can figure everything
out for the guys if anything you want to change Roger Roger and Potter are
going to be sending a lot of time trying to tweak things Potter's got a hard
job he's got a hard carry this fight this is all about the yearly planning I
don't think Potter was probably ready on his grand returns at a race to the first
scene that it'd be one of the most complex he'll fights we've seen in a
while and it's only boss six it's boss six and boss five was no pancake either
got three heal it we three healed it that's very difficult to organize no
no let's a little extra cushion of safety the first orbs coming through
relatively well positioned what we're looking for is the world marker charges
they've got weak or is telling you which configuration configuration one configuration
the world marker charges so now we just have to keep the debuffed folks alive
through their dot and then do the dodging the bosses buffed by 10% so
don't get clipped by knives or orbs no no that's all yeah you did almost as
bellow yeah bellow getting hit that it's a battle rift seems to be what's
causing that instead of them being in one central location is the boss drifting off and slightly
getting overlapping with the elves because the guys on the outside tend to be doing a really good
job of making sure the middle is clear. Yeah these ones go straight through the boss so if you get
fixated with the charge you need to go to the far side of the void circle so that you only get
hit by your charge and not by both of them. We do have two people get clipped but they're
both DPS so it's conceivable that we could see some work done in the intermission. We still
want to practice the healing in the intermission and the health zones and the
person was oh people getting so low through the suck frigo going down like
jogged in there yeah it's the suck is the suck is such an interesting
mechanic and we don't really talk about enough to drag in I'm sure call it is
that when it's done right it's such a non-mechanic it really is irrelevant but
it was slight miscommunication a slight mischarge and it's actually incredibly
look at the state of this room this is this is a rough one we're not as
well-spread as we typically are it's gonna get significantly worse because
with three people down their share of blazes are going on the survivors are
getting hit very hard here. Yeah this actually reminds me a lot of Archimonde
with the raw chaos mechanic is they will have a position where they want you all
to stand and they will map to ours like if you stand exactly here you won't
hit anyone else kind of. Yeah but the thing is is this fight doesn't allow
you to just stand in one spot you keep having to dodge back and forth for
the quadrants being sliced by the boss rotating around but everyone's
assigned to you're absolutely right everyone's assigned to a certain area
And you want to minimize the degree to which you're interfering with your friends in that area
Trying to keep those blazes spread out to improve your odds of only getting hit by one
Now we're going into the phase two with four death masks needing to be spelled so the boss will be buffed by 20% on the
upcoming set of lines and orbs after these
World marker charges go off in a little bit. It looks a little bit off
Everyone aiming at the world marker here. They will rotate around boss takes her two stacks of death mask
Yep, she's okay
We're buffed now if you get clipped you're dead right this is a 20% buff on all of this
Yeah, it's 20% damage buff, yeah, it's no good. This is bad
But then we're relying on you can see the healers are actually not overly high
We've uh, we we are dead
We missed the death mask charge. Oh here we go. We have missed the death mask charges
So we're gonna try we're gonna have four going through the boss at the same time here. Great. It's only a 5% damage buff
And she's permanently buffed
Oh no! Permanent 40% look at those ticking damage from the Queensbains just chunking their health.
This is going to be real pretty real soon.
Instantly one-shot by an orb, Bryson goes down.
The taxes are buying though, that's good news.
Yeah, that's true.
Oh my lord, this is just the ticking damage but it's buffed by 40%.
That was a catastrophe.
Well, this is gonna definitely prepare them for the 30% buff later, let's make it 40% and see if we can deal with it.
Oh, look at that interesting new record they've got going, showing each tick.
Ah, that's cool, that's just all sorts of things.
Yeah.
I'm sure you've got your defensive in between and not wasting it on something else.
Oh, my lord. You can't be done. Four stacks on the boss.
No, that can't be done.
It's good practice, it's a good try, but that's not gonna work out.
They've put all of the burden on dealing with this mythic only death mask mechanic on the tanks.
In order to handle it, you need a couple of the clones to charge through on each of the two charges that occur each phase.
In order to get those death masks dispelled, if you fail to dispel them by charging to the boss, they just wipe the rain.
So you do have to dispel them.
But the players who are handling the charges aren't doing that.
They're going to charge these clones through the exact same way every single time.
The tanks have to pull the boss into an intersection with those charges to dispel the death masks.
So an enormous burden put on the tanks in order to reduce the burden put on the raid. Yeah, I like this fight a lot
There's a lot going on here from taking the idea that we've all talked about you know patchwork or sludge face
So everything is a simple idea of a boss with a lot of HP and does a lot of damage
While mixing enough simplistic mechanics because they are relatively right. We're talking about going clockwise
Yeah on spot moving out a little bit and actually turning into just a slaughter fiesta that the guys can get around
like they've called break so it's all right it's lunch time now we're gonna go
do some spying absolutely and eating and eating so we'll go find out how they
feel about the fight I'd be interested to see if there's a mix like we had with
T-Swift which is like some people love it some people hate it yeah absolutely
I can't imagine hating this fight it's it's very fast-paced it's exactly what
our players want testing their ability to just play really well
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We'll be buffing the boys this afternoon
as they're getting back in.
The tables were filled with theories, crackpot ideas.
Roger's got a second cook on the go.
And I am joined, of course, my name is Preach,
and I am joined on the analysis desk over there
with the max role and analysis desk.
Mr. Geith, how you doing, buddy?
Indeed, I'm doing well after that fantastic lunch.
I did indeed hear Ryson, and Potter, and Roger,
and Scryp all sitting together at the table over their lunch,
arguing a little bit about the second cook,
about what they're gonna be doing,
how to keep everybody alive, trying to tweak the strategy.
We've had a really good morning
of exclusively mythic pull of this boss.
So progress instead of splits this morning,
and they've made some excellent progress.
We've seen all the way through the fight
to the final in a mission, not with everybody alive,
lots of deaths on the way,
but they've seen all they need to
in order to map out the timeline,
make sure that they have healing,
addressing all of those terrible points of overlaps,
and getting a lot of practice for them
as they work out the strategy that they're gonna be using.
Yeah, some really interesting stuff coming out from that.
How playing their own game this time,
making sure that they've been thinking
about this boss for a while, actually.
The Brute Twister, yeah, they try out some ideas,
they make some things around.
They looked at what Liquid were doing,
and now they've come over here and they have a bunch
of ideas.
This is actually Skype plus Roger
that they're using for this strategy.
We'll see it in a second.
Roger's definitive one.
Involved them, which we didn't clock.
I'll be honest with you.
We didn't clock exactly what they're doing,
they had to do a turnaround flip at some point to avoid a certain thing and the players universally
agreed after just three pulls like we hate this. Yeah it's horrible it's horrible it was like it
works. It was a very pretty strategy a lot of symmetry a lot of uh you only do the same thing
every single time but it was too precise gaming uh too dangerous in a lot of places a lot of
pixel perfect requirements and the players had to change and do what they were flipping and then
that that was too much difficulty. Their new strategy is very very consistent. They always
put the portals in the exact same way and then they have two configurations. The first lasers get
sent around and then the second lasers go through. That means that you'll always be safe in the middle
for the first one and then safe in the inter-social space between on the second one. And you have
to remember to alternate that. They've got weak horse to remind them. But those safe spaces are
fairly small. The real big killer thus far of our progress has been individual error, right?
There is a huge amount of dodgeable mechanics overlapping with both balls from the Queen's veins and lines coming out from every single clone
Requiring you to dodge perfectly because those come out right after you've dispelled of the mythic mechanic death mask
Buffing the boss is damaged by 10 20 or 30 percent
Requiring you to pixel perfect dodge everything because if you get clipped while she's buffed by 20 or 30 percent
You're dead
That's that's gonna do 90 percent of your health and that's all you have because your last 10 percent don't count
You're just executed for every bit of your health left. Yeah, it's a terrifying moment here
Because the whole boss is designed to constantly sort of keep you from being a hundred percent
Because if you're a hundred percent HP actually none of these overlaps kind of matter, but they have so many different things
They're just constantly dragging you back from that nice comfortable spot
And yeah, if you're if you're watching along with us and try not to look at the raid frames
Okay, there's very mind as Jesse just pointed out there if they go below 10% you're instantly killed by the boss
the boss just executes you and people keep floating kind of consistently almost it's by design at this
point with the healers they're like we're sure we can keep you above 10% during this bit but that
means you're going to be like 13 14% and just living there for a little bit despite the fact
that it might murder you I can see the ready check has gone out the guys eating as fast as humanly
possible because they have a real opportunity here if they can play their best today they
They have plenty of time, they have an opportunity to not only catch up but maybe overtake Liquid
if the damage values are there in order to actually get through this 7.5 billion HP in the 6.5 minutes
that exist. However, there is a massive copium.
Did you hear Roger's enormous copium cook?
No.
Give us a huff.
Roger believes there's a chance that because the boss has this assassinate's
executability at 10% that she also dies at 10% and then he's like the HP makes
more sense if that's the case of like dude there is and then Mira said I thought
he said you were cooking not burning the food. Yeah I take it back I don't want
to huff of whatever it is he's breathing there that is not happening
this is like the copium way back with the Archimonde. Oh he dies at 10%
You know all those other theories constantly hoping something dies early just because it has a lot of health
I think was it expects you to find the damage I did tweak this boss's health a couple of times
I think they've got a pretty good met read on how much damage the guilds can do they were right on brew twister people thought
Oh, we can't do this
But if you played right you use two tanks you could get it done
So I think they've got a good read on this and it's probably doable
but you have to play perfectly you can't have people die early and
You have to bring the damage so we'll be seeing it all the time has thrown out
We're going straight back in it is a quick lunch for a determined echo here in Germany
They're not quite at the point that I recognize they've smelt blood in the water and they're going for the throw and rightfully so because
We still have two more bosses to go after this. Yeah, we are not in that side. Yeah, but they're in a comfortable position
They're happy with the pace of their kills so far. They're happy with their strategy
It's gonna be a constant ebb and flow of tweaks and adjustments based on what the the player speed back
This has been already we heard around the dinner table a massive amount of the changes have been based on player feedback
So we have been watching a lot of wine time happen in between pulse
But that's because the players are feeding by like this isn't quite working for me. Yeah
Yeah, in theory your idea works, but in practice this happens and this happens and this happens
It makes it scary. Here's the really scary moment this huge amount of damage just from the portals being up and the constant ticking damage
because the shades exist.
Now you can see here,
you see the way they create this clockwise rotation.
Flex the field.
Oh, three deaths, four, five, six,
something went wrong there.
That's the food debuff.
Yep, always happens for Echo
after they have a nice little meal.
They get that food debuff a little bit lethargic,
but we saw excellent work on the very first set of portals
and then the people who put those portals
get Queen's Bane, they're gonna explode with balls around
and they go outside angle
so that they don't hit the middle
and then get pulled into the middle through the portals.
That was done beautifully,
But we're looking for a good execution of that second, um, those first charges, which, uh, just didn't happen there.
Yeah, you can see that it's stuck in the shadows. It's just the dots and the Queen's Bane.
That's all it took to kill Flex there.
So that's what I was talking about really.
It's that ticking damage just from the fact that the shades exist.
They're ticking on the raid, just keeping you from being full health.
Uh, and then the Queen's Bane just being enough to take you over under that 10% HP threshold.
And then the boss is going to absolutely wreck you, uh, for being in that position.
So it's a little unfortunate for some of the players, especially you know, what's your stamina kind of a real problem here for them.
But we do kind of agree. Blizzard has been tweaking this.
We've seen two changes to the HP of this past.
We saw it change to 7777, that it changed to boob 8008 and now back down to 75.
So they're floating around that number, which indicates that Blizzard have kind of worked it out and think,
Yeah, we think you can beat this. It should be theoretically possible and these guilds do well with theoretically possible
Now they have to see some patch notes some buffs are coming to some various classes shadow is getting above
Eventually eventually they might see the farm raid
But we have uh, indeed always seen these guilds do an excellent job of finding extra damage
There's been so many occasions over the past several tiers where people say oh, this can't be done
This is mathematically impossible the details can't be found, but they find more damage
There's always more damage to be found scripting master at that. We saw that on the sylvanas fight after the
Discovery of 45% being where she dies
Yep, you need to go to diamond and they're pinging it they pinged him you see the pink
That is in fact called the world mark charge
They have a week or a pop-up says world mark charges and you're supposed to go to the second world mark away from your clone
They're trying to set this up in a way that's extremely
Replicable, but they've been one of the first times kush got it and you went to the wrong spot
It is entirely possible like there are sometimes you guys know if you've ever done any sort of long-term progression
Is that you just seemingly just don't get a mechanic for ages?
Some weird things can happen with the RNG decider in the game as to who gets what and sometimes
It's just pure luck and then suddenly you get it
I mean you even took a little moment to look around.
It's like right, so that one's there, that one's here.
I go that, no the wrong one.
Only have a few seconds to get it sorted out
and you could get assigned to any of them.
Any of the clones can target any of the people
and you have to know, okay I'm gonna skip one from there
and then go to the mark.
Not any old mark, they have these positions
in such a way that they rotate around the boss
maintaining that equidistance positioning
which is very important here
because otherwise the suck becomes difficult to manage.
If you do that correctly, that drag-in effect makes it so that you don't really have to move
or disrupt your casting, maintain as much DPS as you can, but that's why they're going
around the boss in that perfect equidistant system that also enables it.
The important thing about that geometry is that when they're going around the boss,
you always have two charges intersecting periodically around the boss, allowing you
to catch two of the death mask charges and dispelling it off of that death
mask by getting it through the boss.
That's the mythic mechanic for those that haven't been following along.
In phase 1, 3, in phase 2, 4, and in phase 3, 5 of these clones will have a death mask on them.
They'll be glowing red.
You can see here...
Yeah, it's not orange, so you can go to the second one, but she's diamond, but you can see where she's green.
He went to the mark. He didn't even go to the mark. He just went to the clone, which was just completely wrong.
Yeah, and he looked at it. I think he realized very quickly.
And then the pings go down. He's supposed to actually ping go to purple.
But yeah, they're trying to get those death masks dispelled and they have a really clever strategy for doing so.
So on the first charges, they go around in those circles so the two intersect and they
can get rid of two death masks there, and then they can guarantee just by charging through
the middle, get rid of any remaining death masks.
And the reason they can't do that on the first one is if you dispel three death masks
at the same time, all of them charging through the middle on the first one, you get a permanent
buff on the boss.
Can we get a replay of that when you get jammed?
So hopefully it was the two spots that were already occupied.
Someone just was not moving.
Like, you're a mage.
I'm not going anywhere.
Look at the pings.
That was supposed to be on the corner.
Yeah, so we're going to get a weird swim.
Quick one.
That's it.
Oh, this is Julia's ball.
I don't know if we're on the screen downstairs.
Chef Julia, you've ruined the team.
You fed us all this lovely chicken salad and then you gave us chocolate, whatever it was,
I don't know.
A chocolate mousse cheesecake.
I didn't have it.
I'm a brave boy.
Mitch tried, Mitch from production tried to tempt me with his chocolate cheesecake
because he always does.
But a swift dodge.
Watch this here.
He's all good. Here come the circles. Zassi's like, nope. There he goes to start. Nope.
There's Jinji. Then bump all the way over there and then Jinji just ran back into the
middle it looks like. Yeah, that was not ideal. And there's Ping! Hello!
Hello! Any voids on this corner? Yeah, just a... okay, is it laughing or joking
about it? Dude, I had to move from two different spots. You just ran off to somewhere
else. A little bit of trying to be too helpful to each other there, which could often be the
case is like, Oh, I saw you use your shimmer to get over here. So I'm going to use mine
to get out and leave you where you are. But no, I've got a spare one. I can go somewhere
else and make it work. But that's okay. A couple of quick pulls. And we're going
to rack up a massive amount of pole numbers on this boss considering how short it is
anyway, only a six and a half minute in rage and the entire fuel is worked. It's
crazy shot. This is like the butcher on steroids. Yeah, it's a it's a patchwork
style fight plus a lot of mechanics with this health threshold it requires around 19 million
total raid dps which is an absurd number that we're going to have to see if they can reach on
sickran which is another single target boss they did about 14 million raid wide dps of course that
was not a single target optimized comp it was a comp in there to collect no get on the corners
go back the bullying occurring right now yeah a little bit a little bit of dancing around there
from our chunky fellow you can see the death masks here those red glowing ones are the three
phase one death mask so you're going to see these charges get rotated around the room and the tanks
will pull the boss into one of the intersections from that rotation in order to dispel one or
two of the death masks and then the last ones will automatically get the spell just by charging
through the middle. He needs to get rotated around. Correct however we did have five people
going down from the subsequent Queen's End orbs. Yeah he was in the correct position there. He
was. Yep he was in the correct spot he moved to around it's just a case of his uh the
The Stalking Shadows. I wonder if they've eased up a bit on the healing for the Stalking Shadows.
That is just the existence of the shades, by the way.
When the portals are dropped, they do spawn those shades, which are what Jesse's referring to.
You'll see a red outline on them. You can see them now. It's where the lasers are coming off, those shades of the boss.
And you'll see the red outline on some of them. Those are the Death Mask shades that need to be the best of them you can send away.
Obviously they're planning the charges from all of them so that they land in a way that the pools aren't going to drag them intensely into one sort of one direction.
So you'll see themselves spawn in a mirrored image of what they originally looked like.
But those are the ones you're watching for to charge through the boss.
So the way this will work in each of the phases, they obviously is broken up by the intermission, which I'm sure many of you have seen by now,
but you've not, the whole room will go dark and purple and these big blue lines will come out of the players.
So in between then they have to put three in phase one three desk math death masks through the boss
Then they have to do four then they have to do five in the final one
This is difficult because as you pointed out if three of the death masks hit the boss at one time
That temporary damage buff that is 10% per stack
So each death mass that is it gives it a 10% damage buff will actually become permanent at three in above
And it is three in above because we have four hits it earlier
And it was a straight 40% damage buff on the boss and that is permanent is for the remainder of the fight
So they're trying to stagger them right so in phase one you've got to do three total you have two waves of charges
So one is one one could do first and then they could do two on the next one
That's the three total, but you had time for the debuff to drop off meaning it won't hit three total
Which then makes it permanent in the next one
They'll have to do two and two and in the final one your real nightmare occurs guys
They're going to have to hit it twice for the temporary 20% damage buff
But then they are forced with the final charge to hit it three times giving the boss the permanent 30% damage buff
For the grand finale of the encounter
And they have to do that because if the boss goes into intermission and it hasn't had its stacks removed
It just kills you so there's no way of getting around that unfortunately
They have to deal with that at the very end of the fight
It's gonna be a fun time this one because at some point the healers are gonna have this all worked out the positioning is
gonna be on point they're gonna be very consistent I can tell you that's gonna
happen and probably within the next few hours but then they're gonna have to
find some damage from somewhere. Absolutely this fight is always on a
precipice of failure because everything just hits so very hard there
hopeful was just an 87% health when he got hit by the charge the charge took
him down to 8% did 81% of its health in one hit so a little bit of extra
personals needed or a little bit of extra raid DR or he just needed to be
a little bit more top everyone needs to be over 90% when they get hit by any
of the unavoidable guaranteed damage, or it can put them under the execute threshold. If
you drop under 10% the boss marks you for death and hits you for infinity damage, infinity
damage. Because these are people asking which is the death mask. New Zealand's Star Marker,
you can see that shade has a red outline. It doesn't help. And you can also see the
green marker, you can see that one has a red outline. So that's what you're looking
for with which ones are death marks and which ones aren't. Now, not all of them
are, but as the fight goes on and they have to hit the boss with more and more,
more of them are it's not really a big concern outside of the first one as to
where you're gonna find your deathmarks because as the fight goes on you need to
hit the boss more so they just give you more it's actually there's less ones that
aren't deathmarked than there are that have that don't have the deathmark so you
can see it's on the left now you see on the blue that's got that red outline
around that shadowy enemy with his charge but you can see that I get just
pretty through the middle nice and easy this is this is much nicer now that's
not cursed them no now we have a really weird moment where there's
Orbs and the lines like exactly what calls that see there
So you have the daggers going across the room giving you a ton of area denial
And then you have for the orbs going off from the Queen's bed which shoot across the room now
They are trying to position those in a way that should leave the middle safe ish
Very safe, so they're very hard and it's important to remember that anytime you have that or plus line overlap
You're also dealing with them being buffed the boss was buffed by 20% for those 12 seconds
Which means that you get one tapped if you take extra damage going into the animation
We've already lost two people.
I'm pretty sure, GSE, that Sol got hit by one thing
for exactly 91% of his health,
because he was full, and then his health dropped,
and then he got executed at the back of it.
And that's how they've tuned the damage on this fight, guys,
is to make it so that if the healers don't work,
they're nuts off, and then you are going to be
absolutely clapped by something, so.
Absolutely, and it's gonna be a collaborative effort.
The personals that the raid has,
in order to diminish their damage taken,
a huge part of the mitigation plan of this fight. You cannot do it without them. And if
you miss your personal before a large damage event, then instead of getting hit from 90%
to 15% where you can be healed back up, you'll get hit from 90% to 9% and get executed and
die, pinging the middle so that they could end this poll as quickly as possible.
This is nice because in the first couple of hours of prog that we had this morning,
they were actually dragging the fights out even with many deaths so they could
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idea of whether the cooldowns were working out in practicality. But now we're at the
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We are still watching them do some wine time as they sort out exactly what they're gonna change and tweak in order to improve
the success rate at this boss. So many things happening in the background of this boss, because
at any juncture you can get a charge or an orb that will just do 90% of your health.
So an incredibly meticulous assignment of raid cooldowns, raid healing, personals, health
stones, health potions in order to make sure that everyone's safe and preserved. I'm
also interested if we're going to see any comp changes potentially on this boss.
Yeah, I heard a lot of potentials. Yeah, the question is, and this is what they
talking about over dinner is everything has pros and cons at this point yep everything has pros and
cons it's like well do we throw maybe this uh do we get in another evoker do we do do we swap out
the holy paladin for something else despite the fact that they're doing all that do we maybe bring
in another melee and swap it to a range so that makes the blaze management a little nicer uh and
the other movement a little nicer it's like well how does that affect the overall dps this is
Literally, I think it's it's a house of cards
Every time you try and change or swap something it is at risk of just collapsing and not working whatsoever because it is a delicate delicate fight
Despite it's overwhelming brutality
It's a delicate sledgehammer of things that need to be micro managed to make this work
You need just just enough healing to survive
Because there's no way you're getting over the finish line of this ridiculous HP without everybody alive
Yeah, it's why we see the health bar so frightening for so long
We have the head the healers have to focus on five to six people at any one time who are guaranteed to take unavoidable damage
That hits for around 70 to 80 percent of the health unmitigated
They require instant immediate care if you're sitting at 50% that you don't have one of those debuffs
We have to trust that you'll dodge if you get hit you're dead because you're too low
But if you dodge correctly, you're just gonna tick down and get healed through the ancillary raid healing
The engulfs the healing rain the chain heals
We have the triage heal the people who are taking these unavoidable damage because there's so much of it in the fight every time
You get a portal you get a queen's bane debuff ticking down on you and you explode with those orbs every time you get charged
You take both the charge damage and a subsequent queen's bane debuff as well
So you can see that those healths are going down people are popping good personals
Hopefully using that mass barrier so that everyone can live through that effectively mass barrier is been a clutch thing here
We saw the four made. Oh my god
The full is like flying 11 or 10.2% HP. Oh
Sorry, this is the health bar is terrifying again
Horrifying because you could just see that they're so close to being executed on the spot
But we are cleanly through there. Yep, and you saw that happen
This is the much easier one in theory
Because the boss the charges just go through the boss
And there's nothing to worry about them and then they have that Queen's Bane dots take care
He saw this very low and they have to be very careful not to take more dancing shoes on nice beams there
Do some demon hunts of dancing. He's listening to his jazz and he's got through there nicely
Hopefully they could top up before this intermission
Yeah
We typically have deaths there because you have to do all that dodging with Queens been up and the boss doing 20% more damage
Because she had two death masks to spell through her but they got through it just fine
And we're going into the end of mission relatively topped up
Which is wonderful to see that halo doing a lot of work bouncing back and forth from our holy priest now
Now we're relying on raid wide dr from the ore mastery and good judicious use of personal's
health stones and health pots to get through this because you can't stand in the healing
ground anymore.
We do have the onctotum down providing an extra threshold of healthy ice block coming out
from flex.
Click shaman goes down unfortunately eating the onctotum and his own onk but he's going
to wait until he's safe out of the end mission before he uses that.
Yeah, this is the most horrible part you can see at the final grand finale just
to really twist the knife.
can see the boss gives everybody a blaze so they do need to be as close as possible to
some sort of set position so they do not overlap each other because two hits will kill you.
Certainly in the final phase because remember at that point the boss will have 30% damage
bonus permanently which is very very unpretty but so far relatively clean. They do have
a combat res available. Klix is back on his feet so they need to repeat now. Mastin
has gone down there just ticked slightly below that 10% threshold. So they're going to top
up here probably before Mace Dean gets back on their feet.
This is the hardest set of charges for the tanks to manage. They have to find an intersection
which they did. They're going to get two deathmasts to dispel here. Mandatory to get
two. Only one of the charges isn't deathmast there. So it's not terribly difficult but
it's the only one that they need to ensure they get by two in the third phase. You're
guaranteed to get two and in the first phase it doesn't matter if you get two
or one we do however lose our tank and several of the players to the
Queens veins after those charges. Yeah, it was a bit of a snowball effect there once and that is the nature of this
Five is why I say in the house of cards because it just falls down so fast when you lose a couple of players
Once you once you start what start getting there. They have for us mirrors
They're gonna keep going a little bit with the three healers
So it's not to rise in Bello and feina to keep this going and make it work interesting
a weak aura there, 2, 3, 4, 5. So they're assigning the individual healers there, I haven't seen that since God, the new Barak in TOC, something like that.
Of who is healing what, so you're not overlapping the single target triage healing that needs to happen here. It's far too easy to look at the debuffs and
say, I'll heal them, I'll heal them, you don't need that communication, just throw out a weak aura with a number on, I'll heal number 4.
Make sure they're safe. So intermission 2.
So this is exactly like the first end of mission. She's not buffed at this juncture. So it's really all about dodging
Unfortunately, this is the snowball effect we're talking about because you get extra blazes on people for the people who are dead
So everyone's getting pummeled with significantly more blazes and they're used to getting and or three healing
So people getting chunked down to that execute range you hit 10% you get executed and killed
So everyone bleeding out here inevitably. Can you much? I mean
and all the healing experience you've had in the world first era this is rough during all the dancing and the blazes and you've got to be keeping an eye on those
frames like the DPS is can kind of just stay on target DPS as best they can but the healers dancing
Constant triage healing of random targets being hit by stuff I mean you can be a little predictive because you can see the blaze debuff on players
But still you have to do so much work there as a healer in order to maintain the health of the raid
and there's just no choice. You've got to get good and get it done, right? That's the situation.
Absolutely true. They're making the best work they can out of the Voker utility on this fight.
The Voker is able to put this Spatial Paradox on a healer to enable them to cast while moving.
That's crucial during that intermission so that Ryzen can continue Blasting Healing,
either to divine him or casting Heal and Flash Heal while he's dodging back and forth
because maintaining that throughput in that phase is difficult and yet still mandatory.
So, making use of that utility from evokers with the Spatial Paradox, both Zatzi and Ryzen
getting one during the intermission so that we can blast chainheels, him, and those heals
and flashheels on triage targets as you rotate through, okay, he's getting blaze next, he's
stopping, he's getting blaze, he needs stopping, doing as much throughput as they can while
dodging the lines.
Yep, and then preparing the entire raid for the raid-wide blaze, which is going
to be the cherry on the cake at the end of that.
Do not envy the work of the healers here, but that is why they're here, they are
capable of doing it and have been doing it.
we have got through both of these intermissions in good stead.
In the past, it's just a long road to get there,
as you can possibly imagine, and a lot of microbes.
Potter's been discussing various things downstairs
about what they could try.
This is kind of falling on Skype a little bit now.
He's been presented options from his team.
Could do this, could do that.
And his reply was, he kind of laughed,
because everyone's got like some, you know,
crackpot theory about what they could do,
or what would work, and do this, this, and this.
describes for us. I don't know if it's good, yeah? Just leave me to it and let me figure it out. Not
that he's ignoring them by any means whatsoever, but he wants to make sure that if they're going to
change something, it's a change that's not just wasted time. They want to make sure that if they're
changing something, there's a good logical reason and a benefit to do it. Because obviously the
raid right now is kind of built for the damage check. Yeah, it's got some obvious mitigation
choices here like with the mass barriers on those mages uh that bring it in the rallying cry etc the
darkness you know there's some utility there but is there more needed maybe we talked about this earlier
but as rightfully pointed out by a few players downstairs it's like this absorbs a great when
we're already at high health yeah well that absorbs shield if i'm on nine percent doesn't do anything
no it's pointless yeah absolutely true they do need to maintain that top and it's really going to
be about throughput here and also which one provides the most triage healing because they
They have raid healing from the preservation of ochre, maybe they need more, but they really
need triage healing coming in and Rycent providing a lot of that with heal, flash heal and
Serendity's coming in.
We do have some nice utility, like you said, coming in from the mages and the demon hunter.
Darkness in particular, doing an extraordinarily good amount of work with most of the damage
of this fight being ticking damage designed to take you low enough that the big hits
one shot you from there.
Darkness does a lot of work to keep you from ticking down too low in those scary
moments where you have overlaps.
Two large sources of taking damage happening in this fight are anytime there are clones
up, so basically anytime there isn't an admission, all of the clones are pulsing damage the entire
time of phase 1, phase 2, and phase 3.
Then when the boss does the void circles, that does a spike of taking damage emanating
from those void circles in the boss that overlaps and stacks with the other taking
damage.
That's why the health bars start melting there and you see a lot of burst AoE raid
healing.
That requires, we were talking about healing balance, why not just bring three preservation
of okras.
triage healing on the people that are getting charged or getting the debuffs to drop the
circles because if they're not 90% plus when those go off, they get one shot. So you're
using thainer and ricin to keep them top through. Speaking of virtue, holy shock, heal and serenity.
How many people brooched are over Mera's shoulder right now? Can we swap this? It seems
to be quite, oh, you can't see it on his POV. There's absolutely a crowd of people.
Oh, it's Ronnie. Oh, is it just his chair?
He's just so tall behind him a little play account there. They're all assessing easy. They're all looking at this
Look at the angles there. He's looking at the same side screens
But we can see the beautiful star for each piece. He's illuminating the room there big
Thanks to star force for providing all these things for the guys sending them for them
I have but more things to be checked. I honestly
Gotta be honest when we came in this morning
I didn't get chance to watch any of liquid poles this morning
But I didn't expect this fight to be as micro complex as it's turned out to be I kind of I don't know about you
G but I was looking at it as like okay. This is gonna be a
Lot of damage on the raid, but it's really about how we can optimize this raid DPS to meet that challenge
But it's really flipped it on its head damage has meant nothing so far at all true at some point
We'll get to the point where you know we you can't kill the boss unless you're optimizing damage
but we haven't even seen below 40% yet, and we've seen the end of the fight.
People are flopping over, dying.
It's all about those micro strategies that Roger comes up with.
It's really easy to say, just don't get hit, lol.
But if it's too hard and many people are getting hit repeatedly,
you know that they're good players.
Something can be done to tweak it, making it easier for everyone to dodge.
And that's why we get these wind times to say, OK, what can we tweak
in our positioning, our movement or our use of cooldowns
to make it easier for everyone to dodge?
Can we move a stampeding roar or a wind rush totem
to increase your ability to dodge the lines in the intermission or these charges as well.
All of those little tools being used to try to improve everyone's survivability in little
understated ways that don't show up on the meter.
We also have the meter work, right?
Potter getting that spreadsheet out and trying to min-max the use of every single cooldown
down to the personals and exactly when those are being used so that they don't overlap
and get used injudiciously when we were sending him anyway that was going to top
you.
Okay, I can't confirm Potter is happy though guys.
I said, could you have picked a worst tier to come back considering we're on boss six of eight and this is the level of work needed to get there.
Anyway, dude, I love this. This is what I wanted.
This is the point of being here if I have to tell people to just play the game.
Like, what is that? That's not why I'm here. It's not why we had to advance the Race to the World first scene to include things like healing officers and all these outside analysts and all this kind of thing.
This is what he's wants. He's worked through it. He's
Happy-ish. He's got suggestions that you think would work and I think that's what's happened
Because I know I'm a lot of you are suggesting things that could change
It's like those suggestions happening forward. Well, each of them have pros and cons
It's all about striking a balance here because like Jesse said, yeah
We could probably focus really hardcore right now on survivability and getting the
Getting the raiders all the way to the end, but we're just going to find ourselves stood in front of a locked door
Yeah, like
What good is that?
And so many times we've seen the knock-on effect of this fight.
It cascades so viciously and so quickly.
You get one person who's slightly too low
when they're taking one of the charges.
They get, take the charge, which puts the Queensbane on them,
and then instantly die because they weren't sufficiently
high health to live through the charge and the execute
because they get taken under 10%.
That means that their debuff, their Queensbane,
immediately explodes in a position
where people weren't prepared.
It's not positioned correctly.
Those balls go ripping through the raid
and you see five people die at once.
That's usually what happened.
not just dodge those balls low, but someone needs to have pre popped a
personal or health pot at the top themselves or needed some attention
from healer, perhaps an emergency external of some kind.
So a lot of little things going on because you see a mistake happening.
You see five people die.
That's usually a cascade effect.
Something went wrong.
Yeah.
And then you said we've currently got like in the first
intervention, a lot of health stone and health pots assigned.
It's not going to work later on.
So they need to be a little careful with how they throw these things,
especially the limited resources that they have throughout the fight
from external things to not mess themselves up,
but they're all assessing, they're all getting work done,
and that's okay because they're looking to find a solution
and like echo, killable or a killable?
No, no, I think it's killable.
I think so too, I think was it have been really,
I mean, they have been crunching the numbers on this fight.
They know.
I don't think any guild has gotten to the end of the fight
with everyone alive, no mistakes made, optimizing DPS.
It's a difficult fight that we're failing
at a mechanical level because it's so very, very hard.
Until we get to that point, you can't say I'm killable.
We've gotten there with half the raid dead.
That's why we're not below 40%.
Worth noting, I think, that Method has killed
Mythic Brood Twister, so we are now three up,
all working on the same boss at the same time.
Excellent to see, love that competition.
And we have the Chinese Guild, Something Something Heroes.
Wow.
Getting Brood Twister down to 1.4%.
I don't speak Mandarin.
I don't even know if it is Mandarin.
Something something heroes is what I'm going to call them and they are going to join method echo and liquid on this box very very soon
Yeah, 1.43% remaining for them as it's now three guilds staring down the everlasting nightmare
That is the void princess. She's so relaxed and she's on her way with a little zoomie walk
They're gonna give it the old resets get everybody ready get the gateways in position
Now we even using gateways anymore. I think they're up to now. You know the gateways
I think the gateways are a full trap. There's too many times you take a gateway into something else
Like what are you gonna use them for?
The only reason you would have used them was in Roger's strat in order to do the reversal of their formation
That was gonna be a planned and designed things in the time when nothing is flying
Other than that, what are you gonna do gateway into another slicer or into another charge?
The positioning on this boss is too precise
And I do want to point out that Blizzard did a pretty good job with this room
Kind of indicating with the symmetry of the room exactly how they think this fight could resolve in a way
It's very thematic with the lore of the boss. I really do appreciate that. Yeah, so it's a little more ff 14 influence over here
And it's glad to see that there's no ego there in bringing this kind of stuff into the game
More regularly. It's actually several of the boss fights
We'll even see it again in silken core after this we obviously saw it in Brute twister
Using the environment more of a mechanical solve than just a thematic solve
You do see it on occasion, but it's definitely more prominent now
And I love to see it because it helps a lot in fact. It's helping a lot here
I'm sure many of you are actually like hard-triggered if we can go to somebody who has a POV over the entire room
that the world markers are not like in the middle or on the corners, which is
Was upsetting for us at first
But this actually because the don't need to the corners of the room are the corners of the room
You can clearly see that we don't need to world mark that so they're using world markers for the charges instead
Because then the room is naturally guiding you where you need to go with your portals
So now we can use the world markets or something else instead of adding more and more up and
Utilize the room that way, you know to give more direction and where to go is a nice gap of the curve of the pattern on the floor
Of where you should go if you're on the outside
Etc etc. So it has already come into some helpfulness for echo. There's still cooking something up on the side of that screen
Yep, they're working on something over there. Now we're gonna see something dramatic probably not
No, it'll be a very very almost impossible to notice change right a very subtle change that makes things slightly easier
Their core strategy, the fundamental bones of the fight, works quite well.
The positioning of the portals, the first charge rotating around, creating an intersection
line where you can guarantee you get two, but never more than two of the death masks.
That's very elegant.
And then that allows you to always charge through the middle of the second time.
It requires the raid to go back and forth between two different patterns, but it enables
them to be consistent and replicated by always doing the same thing every single phase.
Charge one, go to the next marker, charge two, go straight through the middle.
Now the players who have that charge too need to be pretty careful.
You need to go past the other side's clones so you don't get hit by both yours and the
one coming through you from the other side.
And we've had some deaths to that.
But for the most part, if they play it correctly, it does make it a repeatable, easy to execute,
relatively elegant strategy.
But there's a lot of moving parts underneath the hood that still result in individual
errors and individual deaths.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Most of like the fight, though.
There was nobody who was salty downstairs.
They were pretty happy with what's going on.
In fact the biggest question is does it look good for the stream? I'm like yeah it's a bloodbath, people like a bloodbath
Because when you don't have the bloodbath and we have seen them get cleanly through phase one
Do very cleanly in phase two and reach the end of the fight
We have seen that happen as they snowballed a little bit towards the end
Which is a dramatic loss of DPS obviously in terms of health percentage
But they have made it work
But they did get probably a little lucky is what they're finding out is like yeah, it's doable
But we had to get a bit lucky who got blazes was it people who could immune stuff was it people who could ignore it
Are they at a big health health stone ready that they wasn't used earlier on things like that?
I know to make it work. Are we still looking at dev?
We are so we've got an interesting combo here full change from Brute twister all in death knights
All that warriors buzzing away that we had yesterday all gone all the bench not a single death night in here
Instead, four mages have arrived along with those evokers.
Two hunters are joining us.
And now Frago.
Frago has played preservation in the early bosses.
He's played augmentation on Bruteswester.
He's now playing devastation on this fight.
The same with everybody else has been mixed and matched.
And we were saying earlier, there's very few players
in here who've actually played the same role or even
character throughout this raid so far, which is only
five out of eight of the way through.
I'm a little concerned as to what the Silkencourt is going to look like.
These guys aren't though, they're ready for it.
They wanted the war and they are getting a war as the dancing is happening.
So I guess we're going to get a pull as before they go in.
If we aren't, then we could perhaps illustrate for the chat exactly what's going on with their first charges.
I've pulled up the the Echo review tool over here.
No, it's not Medics, awesome diagram.
It is, but I don't have his diagram.
So I'm going to draw it again for those who are here a couple of hours later.
You can see here the positioning of the players as they deal with the very first charge.
They get a weakware popping up on the screen that says World Marker Charge,
which means that if you get this clones, I'm going to circle them in yellow,
but I'm not a very good draw, but that clones charge.
That means that you can see a player here underneath the raid frame standing on X.
You skip one and then go to the next marker.
And then we see that that charge coming up from blue is going straight to this blue marker and standing there.
This charge coming over here, you can see the evoker standing right there.
and this charge coming over here, oops that's not a straight line, well good enough for who
it's for, goes charging through and what this does is it creates intersections at each of these lines
where you can uh hold on let me draw it a little bit better. Wow me and the drawing tool not not
doing well, hold on here we go. This line comes through here that's the person sitting on the
mark, this line comes through here, this kind of line comes through here and this one comes
through here and it creates intersections of guaranteed charges. There's one here as well
where mirrors can position the boss in these intersections and guaranteed get two and never
more than two death masks. What that enables them to do is ensure that they get the two that they
need and then all remaining death masks which will be one two or three depending on the phase
can easily be resolved just by charging through the middle on the second set of charges.
That is the elegance of this strategy and it means it works every single phase. You do
First the world mark charges, then the middle charges, then the world mark charges, then the
middle charges, every single phase resolving it with no issues. As long as the tank who has the
burden here manages to find on the first poll you have to find one death mask to overlap. If you
don't find one death mask then you have three on the last charge and that doesn't work. And on the
second intermittent phase then you need to find a place where two death masks intersect. If
you manage to find one where only one intersects with a non-death mask clone because there
There are four death masks and one extra clone that isn't then you're gonna have three on the remainder and then once you've done that
The last phase is actually the easiest one because every single clone is death mask you go to any
Intersection point you're guaranteed to get two in that first one and then all three will resolve on the final one naturally
And they've eliminated the possibility of accidentally getting three as long as everyone puts their charge in the right spot
It's impossible to mess this up and get three death masks on the boss buffing your damage permanently
Yep on top of that. It also forces the charge to finish
essentially where the previous one left, meaning that the portal suck will
naturally resolve itself into the same pattern, meaning there should be no
pools located anywhere that are in the wrong place and cause an obnoxious
drag in one direction or another. So it's a really nice elegant solution to what
they need to do. We have seen a couple of players forget where they're
supposed to go. The rule is simple. Go clockwise and miss one. That's all
All you need to do is go to the World Market of this one.
So you can see in front of you here, so if you're started at Diamond, you need to go to
Red.
If it's started at Star, you need to go to Blue.
If it's started at Red, you need to go to Orange, etc, etc.
So they're doing that for the first one, and the second one, they don't need to do
a damn thing, other than put it through the boss.
That's it.
That does require everyone that doesn't have a charge to appropriately respond when
they dodge, because there are certain safe spots for each set of charges.
The first charges are going around the middle.
The middle is very, very safe.
The second charges are going through the middle.
middle is very unsafe. If you forget which one's coming, you can stand in the wrong spot,
get clipped and become deceased. So they're having to make sure that they remember to go
back and forth. We've had lots of people dying to those charges by getting hit when they
shouldn't. We're role playing Jesse. I like stuff like this. We're role playing. We're
role playing the intermission. Like that? Yeah. We're role playing the intermission.
So if you don't know what we're saying here, they're pretending they're in the intermission
and where are you going to stand and where are you going to do things in order
to make sure the blazes are appropriately spread and we're not creating areas of congestion
with these blaze lines. So they're shimmying around. The melee are obviously like, well
we'll be in melee. That's where we live. But making sure the range at least are going
to be spread around the area. I assume they've been assigned spots now.
Yeah, they absolutely have a map of assigning spots. As the pull timer does come out,
they're a little bit more comfortable now. We have a nice little wind time going
another pull here and we'll see how it turns out if anything's changed. I don't
think we're gonna see anything different we might see subtle differences in the
positioning in the intermission because that's currently the biggest pain point.
In phase one we're having individual errors causing deaths when someone gets
clipped that shouldn't but in the intermission we just need more work
spreading those blades is out so people can survive the hits. Yeah absolutely so
there we go portal spread you can see the the reddish area that's where the
tanks are gonna go because the final portal actually spawns from the boss.
You can see they pull the Nexus Princess over there, you can see Casting Netherift and Plunk, that's all the rifts in the right place, they're all equally spaced, so the players aren't going to get dragged and that leaves the middle nice and safe in theory.
Although maybe okie-gang very low there, remember 10% is the threshold for them to die. You'll get your head chopped off, you don't want that.
And that's exactly what Jesse just drew for you there to happening and see what it works.
It works lovely.
It looks beautiful.
Everyone could dodge right in the middle the boss picked up two deathmaster spells
Which means these orbs and lines are doing 20% more damage must be careful sweet Genji reacts
That's what you want to see. I want killed fan of Alice
Maybe you have a look at the logs after this because nothing I think he clipped a portal if I was to guess
I think he might touch the portal of course it is instant death if you touch postal
Now here's the opposite one where you just run through the boss and put it through the boss
And that requires everyone else to dodge and kind of that interstitial space outside of those inter cardinals
But they do that successfully. Let's go through the boss coach bad overlap
Cush orbs plus lines Wexley and flex and mirrors all going down there sniper. Yeah, you should have headed to this
boxer one down
Now it is true
It is true that the melee deal with that mechanic less often than the range almost always the portals are placed on range players
Which is half of the queen mains of the fight the charges can go on melee just fine
But that means you're only dealing with Queens main about half as often at range players are
hopefuls gonna be an auger massive
In a way it makes him safer he only has one blaze it's no one is around him
Yeah, he's got his guys own defensive. He's alright. He's keeping his blaze away from anybody else
He just like I'm playing over here. You guys do whatever you want to do. I'm staying back here. Don't hit me
There you go. Look how far away. Absolutely max range in order to fight the boss, but it's perfect.
It works super well. His P of E is always fun to watch, but it's exactly what you should do.
Like get out of the way. The more people that are anywhere near this boss make it harder.
Oh, we are sending this pull. Look at that stack. Everyone dead.
And boom. Boss go boom.
That was a very pretty ending of the fight.
Yeah, let's watch what happened to Jinji here. So Jinji goes and gets spread out there. He's quite chill
Sends out his orbs. He's at 21%
What hey
You got executed
Yeah, I think yeah in one of the frames he got down to just 10% exactly
And as the heel landed
Liz nasty
Nasty, so that is the change because you might have said oh I've had that happen to be in heroic right and it's fine
Because the heal landed a guy excuse I got healed they remember they mythic they changed it
So in heroic is like 2.6 million or mitigated over here is like 10 plus million
But you're dying exactly going through the sequence of events. He was at about 20 percent health
Yeah, so 21 got one tick of stalking shadows taking him down to 9.3
0.3% 0.7 under the threshold healers on the ball including his own health stone took him back up to 34%
But it was exactly 0.3 seconds too late
He'd already been marked for death the exit came execute came in for good lord. That is a lot of zeros
10 million damage. Yeah, well, I see this medication was used by them. You've been hit by everything else
Yeah, he did he even sent his health stone his health stone was literally 0.3 seconds too late to save his life
9.3% HP and that's it. It's game over. I mean if it's 9.9 it's game over. Once you are marked for death
the princess is coming to collect. That is the way it is but straight back into another pool.
Something the guys are just going to have to get used to. That is the nature of the beast. Now you
need to recognize like 20% while I'm in this position is big spooks. It's no good. Needs to
be sorted out. I need to do something about it because there's the stalking shadows out.
Recognize this is a scary part of the fight.
Stalking shadows is when the portals are out,
that's just pulsing damage on the raid.
It's different than the suck, which is extra pulsing damage.
So when you see the guys are going to spread out here
and drop the shades of the princess on the floor,
then you're going to see raid damage
start pouring out onto the group,
as well as the people who are marked.
So it's a little bit of ticking damage.
Well, that little bit of ticking damage
is what's making the hard-hitting abilities
take you below that 10%.
You're just preventing you from being at 100%.
It's essentially the whole role of this.
Yeah, it's brutal. It's truly brutal and doing a number on the raiders here as we head into the first charges
Which are positioned correctly?
Dodges nicely just need to keep the people with the Queen's Banes topped up
So they don't get executed as we go into a now buffed set of orbs and lions and get clipped here you die
Oh, man. Did you see that? Oh, he was marked, but he got back out
Zero into nine percent got topped back to full got executed back down to a percent
got out of it before the internal cooldown of that spell left to go a million to survive that.
That was close. Yeah that is Warlock Cheese right there. Sol unfortunately not better fitting from
the old Warlock Cheese in this occasion. But there you go, he actually buffed this goal on the
opposite end of the spectrum. He was not able to get himself out of that nightmare situation.
Unfortunate. Envelo also in the same boat. We do have a battle as Envelo. He's gonna need
to take it before we go into the intermission. Yeah it's top show in Mayo because this
going into this intermission not full health. It's rough. Which we saw a couple of pulls back there.
We'll have some years. We're gonna send this soon. We had a couple of pulls where we successfully
did a clean P1 and went into the intermission with everyone at full health and that was the
safest intermission we've had. Once he spread out it's much harder to get everyone top and
there we do it again. Everyone's top going into the intermission. However, with people dead
more blazes out per person. It's very hard to look through this. It cascades very quickly.
Yeah, it might be worth them just looking because we know they just did a bit of role
players to where to stand in this area to avoid overlapping because although you
get all these individual blazes there's a big finale blaze that's coming in later
you'll see the entire raid frames we've built there it is and
a few people out just to check their positioning there on where they need
to be during that to avoid as much congestion as possible and be at max
range I think we're gonna see all portals get stacked here that's
their chosen method of wiping lately it's efficient yep well they can't be
bothered now no death wait for it to happen why are you not in there nice
beams you special I'm not going in there with the rest of you suck you guys
are suckers I'm not going into that hellhole ain't no way a little bit of
lucky look here Rodgers give up that's it he's hard out wait he's there you
just took me to a Roger Brown POV but oh he's leaning it's just a shoulder
He's just a Roger shoulder that's doing work
It's this is a real isn't this is such a different a different change than what we have the brood Swister
Yeah, it's a wildly different bossing. It's still extremely difficult just in extremely different ways
I'm thinking about how the brain trust is attacking it like a brood Swister
They knew kind of what to do like even without seeing anybody else do it first. They kind of got it
It was it was execute right? We spent several hours waiting for the kill when it was just in execute phase
This time though, this is a thinking because they do have a lot of choices
What's the next move? Do we stick this out? Is it are we doing something incorrect?
Are we doing something? It's just not consistent
Do we need the players to have more reps and maybe they'll get a bit used to it
Are we rolling the dice on whether this is doable or not?
Do we need to be this razor's edge the HP kind of suggests we do
But do we have to I?
Don't know you know that's there
That's the choice of stripes got to make right now with the guys because they want to use this day to either
equalize or pull ahead of liquid if they can. Ideally yeah that would be a huge
morale boost and part of the morale boost they've already had is once you start
seeing that possibility in sight that competitive urge coming in instead of
falling along behind trying to catch up it's conceivable if you play well and
strategize well that they could catch up today and that puts an excitement in
the air. Yep they're excited they're excited at dinner as well they were more
than ready for this to be a sweet sweet victory so obviously there's a lot
of walking to do yet. There's ain't no small hill my friends. They have a lot to do and
they're assessing every situation you can do. I feel good though. I've kind of got a weird
faith in Blizzard and that's not like me to say that. I've got a faith that they've been
crunching numbers and crunching numbers and crunching numbers and they think, yeah, this
is doable. And we have seen it. I mean obviously Liquid have got to head down to 21% after
146 attempts at this boss. Echo nowhere near those numbers yet, but with the speed you can rack up
wipes on this one, it won't be too far away as we get into another pull. Obviously nice and
spread out, getting used to their positions, drive going in to maximize that damage. What we don't
want to see is that they get there and they're still under 20% off because that's when the
scratch really going to knuckle down and start looking at who did what and why when it comes
to the damage dealers. It needs them working at 100% throughout all these wipes. Circles
coming in. Positions look good you can see the tank is going to pull it off to the right
Bryson getting awfully low there. Not what you want to see is they stabilize out and now we
need to be a little bit careful with these queens bans. You see they try and send them so
that the middle is always clear and now come the charges they have all this incoming raid
damage from the suck. Stabilize for a second they still have some ticking damage from the
the fact that Shades are up positioning. That wasn't correct. By a long way the
Queen's Bane is just... that was a lot so it should be pointed out because we don't
really mention it because it doesn't really happen but if somebody gets caught
by a charge it might not kill you but you will add another Queen's Bane debuff.
Ideally only the people who are actually marked with a charge if one of
those Shades has marked you that big red line you're definitely getting a
charge but if it does go through someone else then they get the Queen's
Bane debuff as well and that's what causes a huge amount of those detonations to go off.
Well thankfully I've not really seen that too much Jesse.
Yeah it's true they've mostly cleaned it up and need to increase our consistency.
I'm just a little bit flabbergasted when I'm looking over here.
Remember a couple of pulls ago Zero dropped into execute range,
Health jumped back up and then took the execute and survived through it.
That was a guardian spirit.
Unlike I think it was Jinji who health stone 0.3 seconds too late to avoid the Reaper.
this time zero canceled the chaos bolt hit the health stone bringing him up to a sufficient threshold
that then the guardian spirit could keep him alive through the assassination hit
that took him back into assassination range but there's a some kind of an internal cooldown
that i figured so chaining oh there we go we can see it so take us through it for those people
who don't follow logs and that's definitely not just me so so you can see here this is the
guardian spirit healing him for 5.7 in his health stone keeping him alive uh and then
Somehow by the way, he did take an avoidable in the panic. He took a line cast as well
Oh, he got a dagger in the face. So the lines crossing across I'm seeing it here
So the Queensbane hit him for the Queensbane hit him for two million. What's two million? Yeah, that's fine
Absolutely. So we got hit for two million from that
Then he got the echo of light heal for one point seven
Yeah, then the Reaper at the same time and then the game registered the healing with the health stone and the
Guardian spirit proxying from the Reaper the key here is that the the Guardian spirit prox to prevent your demise and pops your health back up
That was a rough one that is pretty rough and then he stands in the line goes back down to 3% and then what happens to Wolf this go
Let me pull that up. It's Wolf this guy. He'd like survived so Zerbo was like yeah, and the wolf this go
Got absolutely creamed
immediately after
Which is not what you want to see when you wallock brothers just managed to survive being executed in the face for several more
Guardian spirit unfortunately. Yeah, we did run out of the guardian spirit
It was probably just a blaze line. It was a nothing major going on there
But we're going again. This is what we want to see reps reps reps if there is a
Weakness in this strategy only reps is going to unveil it and despite it being a player issue, right?
It's one of the two things is this a strategy or a player issue and reps is what's going to find it for us
In they go we're following along with nice memes now
That's what Rogers choosing to watch to keep an eye on what's happening in the melee which always bothers me because the demon hunters
Do then to dance the night away every time they're fighting a little awkward to follow if you're looking for perspective from what's happening in the fight
Let's move the boss over over to the red. Yeah, we've done this bit which
Yeah, I mean we have 20 seconds into the fight, so it's not surprising this is gonna happen here come the balls
Balls all over your face, but thankfully not in the middle. Although we did get both this girl. Did she touch the portal death?
I mean, there's not a lot happening there, but it does only take one tick below that 10% to cause those problems
It's the first charges. We're hitting around the room. They look well aimed
Ojinji
You'd make sure here isn't a bad way the boss is buffed now
So hopefuls in a lot of danger very high amounts of danger because any of these balls aligned hitting you is a one shot at
this point because she's buffed by those clones, the death masks empowering her.
I didn't see the debuff, but I kind of feel like Mira's just survived Execute.
Yeah, I think it was just barely as well.
Yeah, I think he just brood and staggered Execute, I'm not sure if that's possible,
but I think he just did. He's definitely looked like he'd be below 10% to me.
I found it taking one right in the face there. I think he was like 12% as it's zero.
These are the scary ones. This is a 20% buffed Queensbane into 20% buffed
Lions plus balls. You need to play really well here to live.
Yep, you can't get hit by anything once she's got this buff
It's only for 12 seconds, but that 12 seconds is obviously strategically designed by Blizzard
In order to make sure it overlaps with both of those mechanics the daggers and the Queens Banes going out
So you just cannot get hit. It's way way too much damage. Yeah, you're not surviving even if you hang on by a glimmer
Now we're going to the submission the guys are topped we have had a death
But the healers are up so this will be a good test of how they're doing here. Oh, man
Yeah, the health bars is so stressful during this point. It is less congested
It is they've spread out much much better
You can see on the mini map as well on the top right how well spread out particularly the range to our hunters in the back
In a partner you have kind of you have two partners on each of the spokes cardinal in an inter cardinal of this room
That's how they've sorted them out basically partners a partner system out there
Yeah, I'm coming in clutch there for frago. Yeah getting him up. He did die at the end but everybody else survive
This is okay like good. I know you're looking at it saying dude
They've you know, this isn't good. This is pretty good. It's pretty good. This is pretty good for how dangerous this fight is
This is what we're looking for is kind of pulls like this
Especially the healers being all alive because they do have to carry hard the cat
I thought I'd cursed both rice. I thought they're both gonna go down there. Yeah, I was heading to the floor then
Yep, that was floor pop but not quite not too bad
We have successfully missed the middle with all of our Queensbane orbs
We have a huge amount of spike damage coming out here because of the void zones plus her pulsing damage
And now we go into the first world marker charges markers look good
And now she has a 20% buff for these Queen's veins. They hurt very very bad
Yeah, so it's just it's daggers plus Queen's veins with the 20% damage. That's it
Cannot get here here and even just the natural detonation of those Queen's veins that doctor's ticking on you
With that 20% damage buff is enough to kill you. That's where the healers are spot healing you a Genji. Oh, oh
Oh, it's horrifying. It is so scary to watch. Yeah, it's horrifying. It's absolutely horrifying. This one a little simpler
It's just gonna go through the middle. Although that's didn't get it done. We missed one
We're about to see an interesting one. I hope we'll just forget which which which one it was
I see the pings going down as they say this is where you're supposed to go
So if one of those red death masks does not get dispelled and you can see the red ad standing right there
Very happy as the boss goes in the intermission that ad kills everyone
Guaranteed, no escape, nothing you can do.
Yeah, I think, they're giving up first.
Yeah, I hope Fulfe just forgot there which one it is.
Is this the one where we go through the boss?
Is this the one where we go to the marker?
He went to the correct marker, god bless his soul.
If it was in the correct one.
Unfortunate.
Yep.
Yeah, unfortunate.
You can see there, he over kills.
It's the Queensbane Dot 6 for a million.
A million.
Oh yeah, there's a wild variance in the Queensbane Dots
because you go from Queensmanes that aren't buffed by any death masks
to Queen's main stuff buffed by 10%, to Queen's main buffed by 20%, and these numbers are big
enough. 20% of a lot is a whole lot. Yeah, these are getting ridiculously large ticks. We've had two
million ticks on players, which is just ridiculously difficult to heal through when you have five of
them and only four healers. That's crazy. Well, unfortunately, it's time for me and Geith to
take our break and be swapped in with some fresh blood for you guys who are probably going to
see it taken down. Let's hope we can see that 20% pretty soon. So we're just going to cut through
It comes for a quick second, but for me and Jeth, see you later.
Although I have no doubt with this mythic progression going on, Jeth will be back soon.
Possibly.
Bye, everyone.
Bye, guys.
Head ready, circle, and we're staying in until they appear.
Three, two, one.
Going on, can move a bit early, but it's fine.
Zoomage.
Dashings to the world markers, and we're staying until the daggers.
What the fuck?
Ah, I think I fucked up.
Go again.
I think that was a very confusing because I went late.
Yeah, you did.
Oh, I would agree with this again.
I mean, I tried adjusting but...
I mean, I was right, but I went too late.
Yeah.
I was also thinking...
Did we move the symbol or am I cooked?
In the last try it was like weird.
I will say this though.
Standing on a mark and you were like, oh, that's not mine, then.
Yes, I was an orange.
OK, but how does that even happen, Teror?
Because we're getting sucked in the middle.
I was not an orange.
I was an orange.
I was an orange.
Then it wasn't me.
Anyways, I'm just saying we're getting sucked in the middle
and then you get targeted.
So you should go in a straight line to your mark, yeah?
I was being cylinder.
I was just waiting a little bit, OK?
OK.
All right, let's get it.
Not on another marker, I don't think.
Okay, okay, let's get it
Bullying
We're pulling this boss
Very cool is coming so we're staying until the portals appear guys
You stand still honestly
3, 2, 1, going out
That's wet
We just make it the way you didn't make it
You can enjoy the scenery now Fago
It's fine, passes to the world markers
And we're staying until the daggers
2, 1, going out
Watch the bombs
Passes through the middle these next
Through the middle, through the middle, and we're staying until the Tigers in two, one, going out, and watch the balls.
Very nice. Intermission positions, and one finger on the personal ready to be clicked here.
Yeah, better to do it on the other side, you will guide me.
I'm gonna just accept all of this.
Eh?
Fine, dealers are all still alive.
We're playing.
Get ready for blazes in two, one, blaze.
Very nice.
Okay.
Turtles coming.
Nice.
And we're staying until they pop up.
Going out in the three, two, one, going out.
We can go out later
Barges to the markers
To the markers
We're staying until daggers
in three two one
Going out
What's your health?
What's the balls?
In fact
Passes through the middle through the middle and we're staying until the daggers
in 3, 2, 1, going out
you have 3, 3, 2, 1, going out
Reds rising, can't tell you now when you get Reds door
I should have
Yeah, Reds in quick, positions, positions
Survive guys, use your personals
It's coming in 2, 1, lasers
I mean 50%
That's better than failing
They're only hitting themselves
Yeah
I know that's 100% fail rate
I'm not as cold
I'm saying a turtle just for you
Wait I think no dip
What?
I swear man
That's what I meant. This was the most touching death I've ever had.
Look at the healers guys.
For now Mike, give it a couple more hours.
Might be a little worse.
That's all I know.
My screen was saved, but I think it was because of the lag freeze I had right before I crossed over to cause me to be...
Hello and welcome back. I'm Nugura and I'm joined by the lovely okay mage, also known as Jordan.
Hello.
We've had a nice lunch break and now we're ready to cast some Princess Cuvessa poles. It's looking really good
And I just said we just talked as we were watching a little bit before we came back in and
Whenever they executed perfectly it just looks so nice
It's like it's like oddly satisfying how these orbs are just like coming in these perfect angles
Yeah, it's like the perfect circle of the portals very cool
Yeah, it's one of those fights when they've got such a great system with the ad placement
It's been really really nice to see that area progression today and even with the orbs perfectly going out throughout the various sides
And even in the intermission they have very precise
Positioning I don't get my words that already
Good stuff. How exciting is this? We have a race
We've got liquid and echo and method now all battling out on
Kyveza these are the moments in the race where it gets very exciting
especially if Kai Vezer proves to be as tight of a DPS check as it is most definitely showing
at the moment. It did get a nerf very recently got a 6% HP nerf and a 10% damage reduction for
I believe it was Queens of Banes. There have been a couple of hot fixes, but it won't change the
fight all too much. It is still a very significant DPS check. We have quite a unique comp coming
into this fight in comparison to Brute Twister. Yeah, it's very different. It was so red,
the raid frame and now all of a sudden it got so blue. I'm so happy. I imagine that from
mage tol. It's funny because we do have a lot of mages, but also the other classes that
happen, like the vocals, for example, they all have like a blueish color, right, the
blue-green. So it's kind of satisfying. I like the colors of the raid frame. We
the game. You can't just go
into the details of the
hunters with the green as well.
But yeah, we definitely are not
bending mage target. You can
talk about majors all you want.
We can also talk about being
kids if you like. Okay, which
is a little. All right, going
into the well first pull for
us. I've been watching
alongside everybody else is
then placing the marks on the outer corners of the hexagon right now and they have really
nice systems. You'll see some of these ads are red, they're the ones that need to be charged
through the boss to remove the mask. Yeah and if the mask gets removed of course we do get
the debuff on the raid, you don't want to stack it up to three so you don't want to get rid of
three masks all at once because then the boss does get that permanent damage increase which
you can't avoid at the start in the first phase later on you won't be able to avoid it anymore
once you have the additional masks coming in in the last phase but until then they are trying to
avoid it by just making sure that they get rid of two masks and then one or the other way around
would work as well just don't want to get rid of all three simultaneously yeah with the portal
placement. It's so nice because when the, let's say the portals that comes in, I think that's what we've been calling it all today.
It is the portals lad.
Yeah, alright. When they get sucked in, they mostly don't move because the portals are placed in such a specific way that they can, you know, just AFK, get as much damage out as possible, especially with all of these casters in the raid and the ranged.
It's a much more ranged heavy comp, especially in comparison to the previous one. We had so many melee.
And this is unfortunately a wipe here.
But yeah, it's very nice to see a little more of a ranged heavy comp because of how much movement there is in this fight.
And a lot of them can't actually push people out.
So obviously a range, getting the uptime, kind of hitting the boss wherever they're standing.
It does feel a bit unfair for melee players every time there is a boss where it's like,
well, I guess we're not playing this fight because of the mechanics, right?
But I feel like Blizzard has been doing a pretty decent job at making sure that bosses
aren't too melee unfriendly.
Maybe they haven't done the best job on this fight, but generally speaking they
try to be mindful of that and making sure mechanics are not being too anti-melee
or are maybe not, if it's a super anti melee mechanic,
then they're trying to make sure that not too many melee
have it at the same time,
their ability on them and stuff like that.
So they're trying their best, but yeah, this one maybe.
Yeah, you know what I've been talking about?
It's absolutely wild,
the completely different raid compositions
that we're seeing in the race to World First so far.
Brew Twister requiring quite a unique comp.
Fairy melee heavy, we saw the Frost DKs for example,
four of them at various points and now we're seeing a completely different composition,
we've got four mages in here. I think Liquid were running five evokers and this is a very
significant difference. Usually the splits are kind of there to give the characters
that they're going to want and you usually see a lot more of a consistent comp going
through the race. There may be some bosses that require a few extra things, there
may be some niches but this is where that preparation is really going to be seen
and the characters that they have is really going to be showcased because there is such
a unique composition on two different bosses now. Not to mention, they're still still concord,
they're still Queen Anzara. This race is absolutely wild. And we did have Medic join us here on
the analyst desk. I am here. Give me like 30 more seconds. I'm trying to draw things
out right now. It's way too complex for me to try and draw a little star and a little triangle.
It's very difficult. But yeah maybe after this pull I'll have something to show you guys.
All right I'm excited for the expert analysis coming in here. I'm not sure what he's explaining us
but I'm excited to see whatever it is because it involves drawings. It can only be good.
We'll be excited to see where our work.
But yeah, they're bestable so far, 44.5%.
We can see Liquid's bestable at 21%.
Their item level is looking very, very close.
We also have a Chinese team on the top five,
getting very close to that brood twist to kill,
with a 6-2-2.8 average item level across their radar.
That is crazy.
That is huge.
The method is really far behind an item level actually, I mean did they kill Brute Twister as well by the way, which is really cool.
I don't actually think they are. What's happened is they pulled Kvesa when they pulled Brute Twister, and then they sent all of their upgrades pulling Brute Twister, so these are the Kvesa pulls from before they actually sent their upgrades.
Yeah, I was thinking that would be crazy.
Like, how did they kill the Bootswister
if I'm at the level less, like, huh?
Yeah, that's actually a point.
So it's just going back to their last Kvesa pulls
that happened before Bootswister, yeah, yeah.
That does make sense.
Yeah, so you see some of the Mythic changes
for anybody who is shooting in this afternoon
and maybe wants to know what the differences are
on Mythic, these adds, these little shades,
they're shooting across the platform.
Some of them will have a mask
glow and a little bit red they will need to charge those ads through the boss to
remove that reddish tinge. The boss will get buffed for, they come up with the exact
seconds where the boss will be buffed and if they run three ads through the
boss it will be a permanent buff. So they want to make sure that they're
clearing all those ads before they get into the intermission otherwise the
boss will do way too much damage to the entire raid. You'll also have the
Orbs are shooting across the platform on heroic. I think it's a little triangle of Orbs, but on mythic much more orbs going out
much more elaborate
All right, we do I do see medic raising his hands like a school kid
So well, I mean analysis is pushing it this is a paint
I am here on the mouse world analysis desk.
I've basically just drawn a very simple paint diagram to show us
exactly how we're aiming the dashes from the phantoms
in each face to make it really easy for everyone to understand.
What you'll see if we can jump on over to the desktop catcher is we have
Maryl's tanking in the middle here, we have Zalateth in the top right corner,
obviously watching over us. And what will happen is on each of
these markers we have one of those nether rifts being put down, right?
When the charges come out, the intent is to charge each phantom one symbol to, I mean,
clockwise in this case, but you could do anti-clockwise as well, right?
What this does is it creates very easy zones where Merus knows he can pull Kvesa and hit
the Kvesa...
Oh, I've missed one.
Kvesa will always get two charges coming through, right?
So the important thing to remember is on the first set of charges, we have to
get those death masks off the phantoms, right? On the first set we have three death masks
on the first cycle, so by getting two on the first one and one on the second one we make
sure we get all of those through. On the second cycle we have four, so we get two and two.
Wait, but I'm confused. Sorry, I have a question. Sorry, I didn't erase my head.
Yes, I did erase my head. So how do you guarantee to get the two through?
What if it's diamonds and square?
So diamonds as in purple?
Oh, there's always going to be, okay I see now.
Yeah, so there's always going to be two next to each other.
There's always going to be a point where you can get two of them to charge through,
and it's Meris' job to identify which of these points is where you can charge two of them through.
That's so smart, yeah.
And so then on the third cycle we have five, so you charge two in on the first charge,
and then you have to charge three on the second charge and get that debuff.
debuff. What we're doing for the second charge of each phase is we're just charging everything straight
through the boss to make sure we get that other death mask off and then we can tank up those hits.
Right? So this is the essence of what Echo have decided to do. I think it's a really ingenious
strategy. It does put a little bit of weight on Meres and the other tanks but it takes a lot of
weight off the DPS and as we know making DPS think less is always a win when it comes to
Because our rotations are just so complicated, we've got to put everything into it, we're
carrying the fight, the fight's over when the health drops to zero, therefore I'm important.
But at the moment you're all dying before the health even gets to 50%, so please heal
me, why are the healers still alive?
All they do is like they do nothing, they just look around and you just see all these
players die and believe all these important damage dealers pressing their
important buttons absolutely and one thing to notice we're going into the
intermission here so we can have a little bit of a look you'll have these
shadowy blazes if you remember for act the little blaze line is very similar
but shadowy and you'll have the various pizza slices going across the
room so you can see everybody is positioning themselves just between
those pizza slices going off so they have the minimal movement they can get
as much damage out as possible because they're not running around like a headless chicken.
And they're also spacing themselves out around the room along those little lines so they are
away from each other. They're nice and spread, they don't have to dodge too many of the
shadowy blazes either. So every part of this fight has very precise positioning and it
is really, really nice to see how they have mapped out this fight and the strat
that they've come up with is absolutely fantastic as medic lovely lovingly showed us and then
just left who's like didn't elaborate and now vanished comes in draws a stick stick
I wanted to tell him something but now he's he's left to tell him afterwards yeah so well
well if medic is still listening there's actually something like it's so it's right rate plan
IO. Yes, it's very, it's a used very commonly in FF 14, but you can also use it in Wow now.
It basically is a picture of the of the map of a boss, right? So you can select Kvesa,
for example, then you'll see the map and then you can do drawings there. So you have
the actual like, like the floor patterns and whatever drawn.
He's heard your suggestions and he's marched back onto set now.
I expect like the most perfect drawing now.
I want to see it drawn in right plan.
I can't believe you've done this to me.
I come in here, I put my paint diagrams down and now I have to create a raid plan.
It is really cool though, like you should, when you see it, it's cool right?
I mean it's really, I knew this existed, I'm just not very good at drawing things,
also now I have to remap out the whole, oh okay, well here we go, that's okay, I'm going to remap
the whole thing, what else do you need for me huh? Some ice cream. Okay, I'm on my, I'll go get
you some. I actually would like a cookie. You'd like a cookie what type? With ice cream.
With ice cream? I was okay with just a cookie, and now he needs an ice cream as well.
and a hot chocolate.
Actually, a hot chocolate would be great, please.
We're not going to ask you if you can fill up there, but a water.
But a water?
Okay, wait. I can do this.
Alright, yeah.
Another thing that's very key to mention on this fight is the element of
if you drop to 10% HP, the boss will attempt to assassinate you.
On normal and heroic, I think it's around 2 million,
may be able to survive with shielding, getting topped very quickly, but a mythic is a flat
out 10.2 million, that's not survivable. So the healers with everything else that's happening,
they will have to be very mindful of the players that are dropping close to 10% because they
will most definitely be executed. It doesn't appear-
So they also have to be very dimmium, very cute seeing what I'm never mindful of.
didn't say it so I cannot take accountability this time and I cannot be
framed. It doesn't pierce through Cheed death still right? I don't think so and I
was wondering if they could immune as well but I didn't test it myself on my
mage. Also like do we know is there an animation? Like I think it's a short
delay so I don't think you hit 10% and you immediately get assassinated. I
think there's a short delay where the boss will then send out the damage to
that player. There's something that we can, yeah, that's a clone behind you, that the
assassin like executes you. A little bit of a backstab will appear after a couple of seconds.
I wonder, I'm thinking of League of Legends now, you know how there's like this one.
Oh really, why are you thinking of League of Legends?
I wonder why. There's this one ability, one character called Pike that has an execute
But that execute is like it's a targeted thing and you can actually just dodge it
So I wonder if you could dodge the execute if you blink away from the club
Backstabbing you that's like you blink in exact moment. Do you know like I wonder outplayed
unlikely that you can but
Somebody should test it. Yeah, you know how cool that would look if you're like blinking away from like a
Mirror image I can assess in appearing behind you and you just like blink super quick and it doesn't kill you
what I'm hearing is more mages. There you go. Oh it does look like we are having a little bit of a
comp swap here. We have taken out, we've removed here. Oh look at that, did you see that? It was
Reaper killed Jinji, the execute. He used a health stone because he realized he was in execute range
damage and he still died to it though. Yeah, so ideally you pop the health stone before
you hit 10% but depending on what damage you're taking right, it might just drop you from 100
to 10 and then there's not too much you can do about that once you've taken that damage.
Have we, I think it's actually Thayna the Holy Paladin who is no longer in the Raid
frames and just... Oh he's full? Alright. Wait, did he just drop the palladin completely?
Yeah, it seems like we're bringing in another... That's interesting. Plano palladin? I mean,
I guess. I mean, I was thinking about raid buffs anyway, right? If you're gonna run
such few melee, technically, you need to demon hunter, right? Because you're buffing
all of the spell damage of course is very important but I mean well I guess Rivens,
Revis also buffs the hunters right with battle shout so because the less of like a melee you
have or less of ranged you have at some point certain class buffs because a lot less important
right so yeah melee buffs are not that important more especially like the the monk buff but then
murus is on a brewmaster, right? So is that, like you're branching to brewmaster?
For example, on Lord's Dread in Sapulka, which was the final raid of Shadowlands,
we had a very heavy melee composition and we only had a couple of warlocks out of range
baiting and they didn't even bring mages to the int buff because it wasn't worth it. The
damage that that added didn't kind of override how much damage they'd have from just adding
another melee instead. So we have seen times when, even though these raid buffs are important,
well it seems like we've got no power, it might probably bring it in another hour power
then. Oh, it's so big.
That's like an enemy's click. Yeah, it's a multi-boxing. That's why it's not hard enough.
I have your diagram for you.
Oh, okay, you have to see it.
No, I just wanted to say what what if they bring the prod palette in I mean you can't need a druid
Yeah, that's the first utility buff across the raid. It's reducing damage and also buffing a bit of damage
So I think it's pretty important across the raid, but what would they like? I mean there's no other way that they don't bring a damage
Draw it like that makes no sense
No
I mean that's weird
I know about this. But yeah, sorry
I think let's see what they're doing with the carpet in the meantime. We're gonna take a look at our beautiful drawing
Medic you see what what did you cook up? Well? I it took me a while. It's quite spicy
We'll have a look at raid plan.io, which is a very good tool and does work really well. I still prefer paint
Yeah, so these are the six crossover points you need to look for and that's what matters
we'll be looking for as well. I did notice one other thing. It seems like Echo have a weak aura
that they are signing to the people that have the Queen's Bane debuff. So they'll have one person in
each of these quadrants and then depending on what quadrant you're in with your Queen's Bane
debuff you'll either be near or far. So what will happen is when you get the lines coming
out from you, this is sometimes a little bit hard to draw, if you're far your
closest line to the boss will actually go behind the person who's in a near position
and theirs will come in front of you, meaning that you can position well to either you can
shimmer through, you can dash through, or you can stay behind where the orbs are coming through and
then walk through afterwards and still do damage from range. So it's a nice, it's a small bit of
optimization, it's kind of obvious as well, but having that weaker side, this is your section,
this is if you're standing near or far, makes it a lot harder for those orbs to actually kill
people. Yeah, this is a brilliant showcase of how well they have mapped out this entire
by it and the strat that they have come up with to deal with it. So copy paste it, send
it to your guild, this is what you've got to do. Anyone needs an analyst for Mythic apparently.
I'm available now.
Thanks Medic for the introduction.
Are there any other tools you want me to use before I leave?
No we're good now thank you.
Okay cool. And the hot chocolate will be here.
I think we need an intermission map.
An intermission map? Sure I'm not... no. No.
But that beautifully showed to everyone exactly how they are positioning, where they are positioning.
So I don't know if you've noticed yet, but this fight is extremely fast paced.
It is constant.
It can be so easy to miss these little elaborate placements.
It seems like Narko has entered the raid.
This stuff now, multi-boxing, it is actually Narco.
Who is another healer there?
So, they've dropped a healer.
Then, a free healing.
Or in a rep-heal?
It was useless healer stuff.
Yeah, in a rep-heal.
Makes sense, right?
Because if they replace the Holy Paladin,
they need to bring in a Paladin.
They need the class buff.
Yeah.
So, this is giving me Rhygalon vibes.
Oh yeah, it's definitely Rhygalon.
This is so exciting.
You know that really tight healing check, really tight DPS check, very intense fights mechanically.
I absolutely love this raid. This has been a wonderful race so far.
We are on boss six. We haven't even seen the penultimate boss. We haven't even seen the final boss, right?
And also, whenever it gets close and close to the last boss, it's so stressful and I get so nervous.
nervous. And these bosses earlier, like it's exciting that they're difficult. But I know
like, it's not not everything is on the line here, right? Like, of course, the faster you
kill it, the better, right? And you do want to catch up. But if they're if I cross a bit
behind to liquid on this boss, like it's not going to be there in the world, they can
still catch up. So it's like less pressure if you like, as you're watching the race,
of course, there's a lot of pressure on the readers all of the time. It's like
less stressful. And then I love it that it's not just like like it's just
difficult bosses right and that's just very exciting for me to watch. Yeah I
think you know it's really exciting when you're seeing them overtake each other.
Yeah it's like this back and forth. Yeah and sometimes there'll be bosses that
favor liquid and they're raiders right it might just really click for them and
they get through a boss really clearly quickly and then they may struggle with
the fight style of another we've seen that kind of back and forth as well
and then Ekko may be very quite successful on a boss and then struggle a little bit on another.
So for example in a Mirdrasil, previous raid tier, Liquid killed Tindral and were absolutely great at
that fight. They went through, they were on Farak, Ekko taking a little bit longer with Tindral,
but then when they got to Farak, they ended up taking the race award first.
Yeah, as they ended up killing it, um, that's in the wild. And it's nice to see that back
because it could go either way any moment so even if you know this team may pull
ahead because they may kill a boss first it doesn't mean that that's it
entirely I've seen a lot of other races over five are dead for example it
was in the lead or if I go to the lead I know all the other team is over but it's
not always that way yeah absolutely love it backwards and forwards
overtaking and yeah that's what makes it so compelling right yeah and it's
also I mean it's just a lot more boring when all of the first bosses fall over
and it's just the last two that is like 500 pulls and 800 pulls or whatever so I
do think it's really cool that's the previous bosses here also a little bit
of a challenge for the team it is a little bit daunting though when you think
about like how long this is still gonna take but still also exciting like
longer rate tiers can be exhausting but at the same time it's just fun to have
the race to well first go on for longer because it is the most exciting
time in a while to me at least so it's very cool. I love this timing, it's my favourite.
But it looks like the raiders are taking a quick break because of course they are swapping
the line up a little bit and they're dropping the healers which means they're going to
have to remap their healing cooldowns and their defensives so we're also going to take
a quick break and we're going to be back as soon as they start pulling again.
Gone out, Narko is in the raid, they have pressed that button, they have a DPS
check boss the cool has been made where he steps into the raid tops the damage
meters doesn't elaborate and there swiftly moves on out yeah we do have a rep
paladin in the raid now yeah interesting so we do so it's not the three healing
that we but we thought they're gonna switch to they are so for healing but
they're just changing their healing lineup a little bit and still
needing to provide those class buffs of course they bring in the other
Paladin in if the Holy Paladin goes out and they just think that the extra
preservation of Voker here is going to be good. Of course preservation has been
incredibly strong. A lot of people have been calling out for preservation of Voker
and nerfs but Blizzard doesn't necessarily want to interfere too much
for tuning during the rest of the first so they've been buffing some of the
underperforming healers but I think to really bring the healers in line
technically speaking I think you would have to see a little bit of a
nerf to the preservation of Ochre, but I don't think Blizzard is going to be doing that until
they're over, maybe we see those nerfs afterwards.
But yeah, they are really strong right now.
Yeah, because that would be very impactful, right?
Yeah, yeah.
They're putting all of their resources into these preservokers, and then they get the
significant nerf that they can no longer have the healing output for the bosses,
especially going later on into the raid, right?
The ultimate boss, final boss.
And now they're stuck with a character that's not dead, but they put all these
resources in this character. No,
they need to bring different character,
different healer, different class.
So that would...
No!
That's Kenex!
No way!
Oh, it does seem like we've had a couple new changes.
All right.
So now...
There's no way!
From Guardian to Prot Paladin.
And we have Kenex in the raid.
So we've only got one Warlock now.
A Warlock for a boomkin, I'm assuming.
Wow, I'm very surprised. I mean, do they want to, are they going to replace Narco again?
Wow, they've pushed the button. They've summoned him. They need the damage. Press the Narco button.
They could still be playing around. They have so many options, right? This is where the preparation comes in to fruition.
They have so many amazing players on the roster and they have a lot of
characters that have been gearing so they can make these swaps, they can try new
things. Azmedic lovely showed us before a little bit of a break there. We've
shown how the entire raid fight has been plotted out. The strats that they've
come up with to conquer this fight and now they're just playing around with
little bit about compi- uh, composition.
Yeah, I'm so- I'm really surprised that we have the Moonkin here, just because, uh, I mean,
I don't necessarily think that, um, Moonkin would be like super, super underperforming single-tribe,
like, he's also not gonna be tapping the damage meter, he's gonna be fine, probably.
Um, but, uh, survivability-wise, I think Moonkin is gonna struggle quite a bit,
this busters a lot of damage, and, uh, Moonkin known to be a little bit more
the squishy side. So he's going to have, he's going to need some help to survive this fight.
And of course he also don't want to have him switch into bear for constantly because then
he's not going to do any damage anymore. So yeah, that's always a little bit of a struggle.
So I played two paladins. Interesting. I wonder if that's actually a choice for like
utility like do they need the second aura do they need the propellidines have
quite a lot of off-heeling they've got spell warding spell warding yeah that
things that they're at disposal which could be really yeah but then the questions
why is Narcon there because the propellidines does make sense but then
that you don't need a red pellet in right press the button they need the
damage I mean let's see you see how it plays out for them with these a little
swaps. Alright so we've dropped Warlock for a boomkin. We have also swapped out, what was it,
the Thayna for rep. So we've had a little bit of a healer swap as well.
Very interesting. So let's see how this goes. I mean obviously this is,
um, still, I mean I'm calling it early progression but there are already 60 pulls in.
Yeah this, I mean so Liquid got their kill 146 pulls. Oh well they are, sorry,
haven't got the kill yet, but they are on 146 pulls. I don't think anyone really imagined
these two bosses to have quite a high pull count. For example, Sidonathrius in Castle
of Nathria, first raid tier of Shadowlands, took around this many pulls to get down.
Yeah, actually, I think 130 or so maybe, I wonder if it's 40.
Yeah, just I know. That's crazy to think about, yeah.
That is wild, right? I mean, pull count isn't always the most accurate metric, right?
It's fun to talk about and the different guilds have different pull styles
You know some guilds opt to just keep pulling keep practicing find your feet learn through playing and other guilds take a little bit of a break
And we'll pull have a little discussion. How can we make this easier? What can we change?
Can we swap this can we change positioning and we'll pull less so you know Paul count doesn't always mean everything
But it's still a fun thing as a light
comparison tool but yes the final boss of that raid tier which usually you know
the final boss is being the toughest ones right usually so side and aphreus
having around the 130 pool count yeah is wild when you look at the pool camp for
this one it certainly is I mean they are still figuring things out and of course
they can switch back and forth and I think a lot of the changes that they
do make to the comp is going to be optimizing DPS but also
survivability right because this boss of course being crazy with the damage
income. They haven't even seen the end rage, which they are optimizing for. Like they definitely
are trying to get them, like they're playing the best strategy to optimize their DPS because they
know the HP of the boss is a Singletaried boss. It's very easy for them to calculate how much
damage each player has to do in a raid for them to be able to kill the boss before the end
rage. So they know they have to optimize damage. And that means they're also optimizing
the strategy around it which by the way like that's something that you can have different approaches to
like what you can do is you can choose a strategy that is a little bit on the simple side maybe but
bad for uptime until you hit n-rage and then like okay now we're optimizing our damage now we're
playing the quote-unquote more difficult strategy to get more damage in or you can do that
the other way around, you can say, okay, we're already from the
start, optimizing for uptime, even though that is more
difficult, and we're going that's going to cause us to wipe
early more often, right? So we're not going to see further
and certified. And that's just depends on what kind of style
you choose to to do as a guild. Like if you think your
players are going to have an easier time, just like getting
further and certified first, and then retroactively like
changing strategy and optimizing there. Or if you
would rather just do the difficult thing straight away and get the news to it. It's kind of like
a style choice I guess. Yeah and that would always be a fight by fight basis so it's really
interesting to see how the guilds will tackle various fights depending on how the style
of it. Unfortunately they do have two dead no combat rezzers with one committed to one
of the tanks but they have really mapped out this fight in a way that optimizes
damage so much. They're not moving too far with the shadowy adds that they're placing.
They're also making sure that the orbs are going out in a way that doesn't overlap with
anyone in the middle of the room so they don't have to move. Unfortunately, Jinji dropping
below 10% HP there so you could see the ad coming behind it to execute him so that
as a showcase of what we're talking about on this fight, the reap where he can
like you've been dutched.
Yeah, didn't blink it though.
But this intermission is really nasty as well.
There's so much chaos because the shadowy blazes
are going out, somewhat random,
and sometimes you can have overlaps,
and you don't wanna misstep,
because if you step,
if you don't walk along your line, right,
when you get those blazes,
you're gonna put somebody else out of position.
If you've moved forward or back,
that causes somebody else to move forward or back
and reposition, which could push them
into the pizza slices.
could move their own blazes which then offsets somebody else and it can rapidly spiral out of
control just from one person having a slight misstep or slight movement change and juggling
that with the pizza slice services we're going through that intermission phase is much more
difficult to execute than it looks 100% so unfortunately we're just losing too many people
here and that is a go again. Yeah I mean we also have new players in right now so they're
going to have to get used to the strategy a bit, making sure they know the positions.
I'm sure they studied medics rate plan pictures before they got in here. Maybe that's why they
are in here. Maybe they sell medics rate plans, like, oh, now I get it. Yeah, they're allowed to
come in. They didn't link the route at the start of the fight. So what was I supposed to know we
were taking? I don't know. Yeah, so they're going to need to get used to that. And of course,
because they changed the healers a bit too, they're going to need to get used to different
different kinds of assignments there as well, which I'm sure Potter is helping them out
and calling things as they go, and they're going to be able to adjust to this really quickly,
but still require some pulse.
There he is.
So Potter is back.
I think the last brace that he was actively involved in was the polka.
And his back is the big brain, planning out all the healing cooldowns, making
those calls and reading, reading the healers and he is doing wonderful. It's amazing to
have him on site.
Yeah, really, it's great having him back.
And practicing playing again.
Yeah.
And then he really wanted to play again so it was really nice to see him playing because
he previously overtook doing the hate healing callouts, callouts and mapping out the healing
callouts and spreadsheets even though they all work on it right together. So it's
nice to see him playing too.
Definitely, it's interesting because I remember in an interview, Roger said, I think Madik
asked him if he would rather play than being an analyst and Roger said, well, yeah, I think
and he said everyone would rather play and I'm not sure if that's true, like I wonder
if some people actually just prefer being in an analyst role and just sitting back
and letting the other people have all of this pressure of playing, right, and you
just sitting back and doing more of that stuff. I promise you, I think I would be fine in Alice
role, like technically if I could, I mean obviously playing is fun but at the same time I think Annalisa
also has its upsides and you, especially because you don't have to do all of the prepping of your
characters, like that would be the biggest downside of this like participating in a race
of all first is all of this prep that you have to do, like all of the stuff that you don't
more than joy to. Yeah, I
definitely think it's really
rewarding to have all of your
prep your planning even with
this fight right where they've
carefully mapped out exactly
where they're going exactly
where they're doing kind of
seeing it play out must be
super rewarding. I feel like in
any aspect right even casting
it's nice to just share the
passion or something of the
have one combat res available and they can quickly get them up. I think this is a case of, even if
you lose somebody, and even though this is a huge damage check fight, there's also an element of
mechanical, well there's a huge element of mechanical play of the players, the gamers will have to
make sure that they are getting very comfortable with the fight, not only to increase damage output,
but also because there are so many things to dodge throughout this fight, so the more
practice the better. As you can see the final adds being dashed, I think that is a perhaps
So go again, they lose a few more people before she's losing her ice in.
Yeah, one thing that I was thinking here is like maybe because obviously getting the practice and
if one player is that that isn't like a super important player, like obviously with a tank that's a
real or a step, then that is going to be more of a big deal than if I damage who has that thing
and continue going. But if like a player like Kha'Nix is that early, then he's what he needs the
most practice right and maybe then it will make sense to go again. But yeah, there we go.
now most of the players are perishing and now we are going to be going again.
We still have, I think they're still thinking about the comp here.
And obviously they're not going to base what amount of damage the players are doing on the
boss here of like two pulls.
Like they're not going to be two pulls and they're like, oh, actually, you're not doing
enough damage, we're going to go.
You know that always happens, does anyone ever tried another class or another spec?
Yeah.
one go as well as your main and you're like, no, I'm not playing this, just swap back.
You've got to give it a good chance, right?
Exactly.
You have to be comfortable.
You're playing a different game.
Well, you're playing a different spec, right?
You know what I mean?
It's comfortable as you are on your main.
Yeah.
But I think the players here are going to be honest, of course, because this matters
for their progression.
So if, let's say, Kenix or Narco come in and they have a try that it goes for
a long time, and then they can just say, okay, guys, listen, I can do more
than this or they can say that actually was really good that I'm not going to be doing
much more than that. They can very much look at their own damage and make that assessment
and they'll be able to honestly tell the rest of the raid if they can do more or not
and then they're going to be making the decisions based off of that. But some of the classes
are in there for buffs mainly and then it's not just the damage that you do that
matters, but also if you, let's say canyx for example right, obviously canyx doing a
decent amount of damage, but if you replace canyx you also need to replace another class
and bring a druid in somewhere right, so you always have to, it's a little bit more complex
than just looking at the specs damage is what I'm trying to say, like you do have to think
about the replacements you have to make otherwise. Yeah absolutely because let's say
But now, making a swap from Guardian Druid to Prop Paladin, well you definitely need the
Mark of the Wild from the Druids out onto the raid, so let's say whichever Druid spec
Pearl Boomkin, whatever they would be playing Boomkin right now, but if we're talking about
any fight, it's more important to see how much that raid buff is adding across the
entire raid, more so than how much that individual spec is dealing just themselves, which
Mark of the Wild is going to really add up on a fight like this, right?
much damage going out so the best is he's gonna really help I mean oh dropping
below 10% HP I think yeah that's the problem with this question as well I
do think I mean obviously Kenny's gonna get used to this and he's definitely
gonna be optimizing his defensive usage well I'm saying defensive usage the
only thing yes is barskin's bare form he's gonna have to figure out when to
bear form right that is actually something that is somewhat difficult if
if you want to maximize your damage.
If you do a fight where the damage
doesn't really matter that much,
well, then you just go bear form when in doubt, right?
Because then it's better to survive,
better to be safe than sorry, right?
But on a fight like this,
you actually want to hold back going into bear form
if you can avoid it,
so to not lose out on damage, right?
So he needs to test these kind of damage points
and be like, okay, can I survive this without bear?
And then you see, oh, I don't.
Okay, next time I'll go bare, right?
So that's something that he definitely does have to test out.
Oh my goodness, I was watching Kush in this intermission.
His movement was so good.
And then he had a blaze, the shadowy blaze,
that perfectly lined up in a line next to the pizza slice.
He had no option but to drag it,
to move out of the slice.
It may have clipped somebody on the other side.
You know what I'm saying?
You usually want to move along the lines
so you're not necessarily moving it
everybody else can make sure that then you know adjusting and they're not getting clipped by anyone
else's but if you have to make a huge movement like that you can then get clipped whereas you weren't
safe now you are or you were safe now you're not safe but there was nothing really could have done
in that situation and that's kind of just one of those things you have to adjust in the moment
people are bleeding out you see that reaper going out on people as soon as they hit 10%
HP just to execute them and finish them off. That is a really nasty mechanic. More pressure
on the healers. Super scary. I was wondering if the healers would maybe get a week or two
to display the player's health on their raid frames to show them, let's say where 10% is
zero for example. I feel like that would be too, well I don't want to say it's too
difficult because I mean obviously they do have people that code stuff for them
like add-ons and whatever so I do think that somebody probably could code like a
rageframer whatever that does that but then it's always like like how much
effort is that for how much gain you know I do think that your personal health
bars that actually like moving changing that one I think kind of makes
sense so let's say like for example on your player frame that it shows only
like 90% of your health right so once you're at 10% it's zero like I think that
would be somewhat beneficial but yeah I wonder how much work that would be but
while they're wiping here I did take a look at some of the donations that were
coming in for games for love a huge shout out to all the people that have been
donating we've got so much already and there's some donations that haven't
been read out. There's $10 about Otzi. With that picture, the
dog, I think we don't do dog pictures or pet pictures anymore
because it was too much stress on production, unfortunately. And
then there's some donations from Mike. So I'm gonna leave that
one out that Mike can read that later or tomorrow.
The wrap by any chance. This Mike Speedo friend. Oh no. Oh
No, I do have a donation $10 by rain tab though and they say hello casters
Production and cute chat today's world gratitude day, and I just want to let you know how much I appreciate all your hard work
You put into into the race every time you guys are simply the best
I'm so grateful that I'm casting with you
grateful to be here alongside some of the best the space has to offer it is
wonderful to be a part of something that I love that I've always watched so I'm
very grateful for that me too I'm generally grateful that the race of
first is as big as it is that right now because when I was a player this was
like my dream like yeah I literally dreamt of the race of first as being
like a thing I was like a man I wish this could be a good thing and how it is
I'm so so happy for the players even though I'm not playing myself anymore
I'm just incredibly happy for the players and everyone involved that this is such a huge production now and
For the community that they get to watch and follow the race too because when I was playing was so secretive and I
Know so many people wanted to know what's going on all the time and now finally
Relating the community actually watch and it's amazing for everyone involved
Yeah, because you played in the race you competed at the race a long time ago. Yeah level. It's very inspiring
I'm sure there's lots of people grateful about we also have a donation by devil in hey devil
in what's up.
I thank you so much for $15 appreciate that.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Oh, and then we also have a nation $25 by rags.
Shout out to all the weaker a master of echo always chilling out in that great group
eight.
I got with the oras and a master of coffee making awesome.
I'm just noticing that we have one.
We have 19 players.
I'm wondering what change they're going to be making, keep my eye on it.
I think we have lost Kersh on his rogue.
Kersh is providing a damage reduction.
So pretty important.
And Kersh was also doing a pretty insane amount of damage too.
Could be perhaps a fix.
I mean we've seen it in the past.
Oh no!
You know, we're just going to pull with 19 Raiders.
All right, we've got a tight damage check.
We've got a tight healing check.
This boss really needs to go down.
You know what we're going to do?
We're going to take out a Raider.
I mean, a wonder.
Is this a Raid Frame issue?
No, I mean, they might just be pulling with 19.
That makes a lot of sense as you're practicing.
All right, well, yeah, that makes sense.
Oh, I see what's happening.
OK, so what is going on is that Cush probably
needs some item.
They're doing a split trade for Cush right now.
Oh, they invited him to another race and while Kush is trying to get an item, they're pulling
with 19 instead of waiting for Kush to come back because why would they wait? Like right
now they know they're not killing the boss, they're just practicing. And I think it makes
sense to not replace Kush with another player either because that player that is coming
in might not notify it as well, right? And then it's not that they necessarily would
cause a lot of wives, but maybe it does, right? So bringing the extra player doesn't really
give you any benefit right now. Yeah, this is actually really cool because
this is a fight where you can essentially see the entire fight, even if you don't meet
the damage check. You're going to be playing through the entirety of the fight, and then
at the very end, when you reach that enrage where the boss is pulsing damage across the
raid, you're obviously not going to kill her at that point because you're lacking
the damage, but at least you can practice the fight, at least you can find the rhythm
of it, go through the entire thing, which is much needed. There's so much particular
placement, so many type mechanics, so it makes a lot of sense, you can see the whole thing.
Because with Brute Twister, for example, even though you could kind of choose which area
of the room you were going to and you could practice different areas of the room,
if one of those ads didn't die in time, that would quickly be a wipe, right? You
couldn't really see further into the fight. Yeah. So there's a little bit more of a check,
but with this one, you can keep playing as long as there's people alive, you can keep
going, you can keep seeing the motions of the fight. So it does make a lot of sense. And
it's really nice to see them optimizing their time, right? Yeah. Kush needs to get an item.
Kush is currently in a split raid for trying to chase some items. So while he's
doing that, they're getting loads of practice in. Yeah. And this boss actually does the
same thing over and over. That's another thing to mention, right? Like it's not
that there's like later in the fight the boss has something completely different and they
would have to practice that part or whatever. Like whatever happens at the start is also
going to be the same thing that happens at the end. The only thing that changes is there
might be different overlaps, but outside of that it's just more damage, right? Because
you do have more masks of course at the end, so there's going to be more damage in your
right, but outside of that you're still going to be playing the same strategy and
placing the portals the same position, you're still moving the boss the same way
or in a similar way and you have the orbs coming out, the lines, everything's similar.
So getting the practice in here at the very start, even if they wipe early because they're
19 players maybe, then it doesn't matter that much.
Yeah, absolutely.
I feel like this is such a nice showcase of Echo's efficiency.
I'm really nice to see how much they've mapped out this fight.
I know that I keep saying it, but it's just so nice when there are fights that
really showcase how good these guilds are and they're not necessarily blasting
tricks. I think, you know, we always kind of joke about, let's say, Abarus where it was so short, but it
didn't really give the race toward first guilds enough time to really flex their muscles and show
how good they are as guilds with their planning, their individual plays. It was really wonderful
to see some bosses where they can showcase that because we have a lot of players dead here and
They will be going again.
They did just last, like the bloodlust just came in at three minutes actually.
I saw that just now.
I wonder if that was just like some rage.
Oh yeah, maybe the infection is going to be in well.
Cush is doing this split here to get the damage reduction of course.
This makes sense as well.
Um, but yeah.
So they did last later.
I wonder if that was just like a mistake or they forgot or did you panic test something?
Maybe it's because I thought it would be interesting like most classes, of course having too many cool downs
Yeah, that is a really interesting last timing
Because on pole everybody has a cool down. So usually it's the most efficient time to last on pole
there is the
Web drink here that drops from silk. Oh, yeah
That usually you know when you use it you gain stacks throughout combat. Mm-hmm when you have backstacks
You then can use it to gain a big chunk of main stat and I think it's around four minutes that the trinket fully stacks
So I don't know if they would coordinate bloodlust around this trinket. I don't know how many people are running in the raid
I don't think there are too many
So I can't imagine they'd coordinate around that that would be the only other time
I think that a later bloodlust could be useful. That would make sense by master last
The other thing I guess is like a healer lust.
I don't mean like a separate lust, even though we've seen that too.
We're lasting for damage!
But if forever like in the last phase you feel like your healing is so difficult that you need a healer lust there.
But then what they would do, if that is the case, then we would see this like...
I mean they would not do this right now but in the past we've seen this strategy where
you would go somewhere else with the healers like before you pull the boss you go somewhere
you press bloodlust for them and then you pull the boss you press bloodlust and then of course
the healers that have the debuff that are satiated from from getting less before they cannot
get affected by it and then once their debuff runs out they're gonna last later for just
the healers which is a very cool technique actually but it takes a long time to set up
depending on the boss fight's length depending on when you want to use that bloodlust for
the healers because let's say you want to use the bloodlust for healers three minutes
into the fight then they need to have only a three minute debuff of bloodlust going which
means they would have to wait seven minutes like use last wait seven minutes then pull
the boss and that would be obviously like that wouldn't work that would only be
something for when you're really really close to killing the boss and you need to like do something
to get some more variability right? Yeah have we see because that's obviously a little bit of tech
that was something that happened I think on Argus in um I'll set right again um Argus was
the last raid Antorus the bone third yeah Antorus yeah the last raid of Legion yeah I think there
and maybe one more boss but I don't remember exactly. I'm sure Chet knows I'm gonna
they know everything we're watching you now that was a very fancy tech when I
when I started I was like wow that is very smart. Yeah it's very fancy I'm just
grateful that I don't have to juggle the bloodlust or time warp for me just
timing anymore because there used to be a case of you would pop time warp for
everybody. Everybody would get the debuff, the Temet debuff where they can't have it active again,
but it wouldn't activate for the mages. So you'd get an additional lust usage and every time I
press it, it goes on a five minute cooldown. You press it the first time, give everybody lust,
and then I could press it again for myself and then it would go on cooldown for five minutes.
So it was timing that so I got the second use of Bloodlust, but while not locking out
everybody else from it when it came off cooldown, because if I misaligned it,
I would not be able to press it for a whole minute even though the party was available to receive it
Oh, yeah, I'm going into a boss fight. Everyone's going
48 seconds
I'm just a little bit here. I mean good majors may not fall into that problem
Other majors who may not be paying close attention
I've already said less for like 45 seconds straight and you never press it at some point you press it
just like oh sorry my English is very bad. I can't numbers though did you want it now?
Oh my bad. The boss is on like 5% oh don't worry I'll press time warp. Bloodlust, hero,
so many terminology for the same buff where everybody gets 4% haste. So I have now chat
open and I couldn't see what you guys said earlier. Do you guys remember what Boston
was with the bloodlust for the healer separately outside of Argus? If any smart person
it sheds or actually a person with a good memory my memory is struggling so many tidbits
it's hard to remember all of them especially of how many wild things happen during the
various races as well I mean this this raid tier is going to be one of those that's spoken
about in the future as well who knew boss five and six proving such pushback yeah all
Well Chaxxian apparently in Dragon Soul, oh my god, yeah, that's a long time ago.
Was that...Paticalism? Yes.
Yes, Seagin Baby.
I did go back and do that raid because I had Transmont Farm, which is very important.
Oh, of course! Definitely is.
I had no idea where I was going. I remember I saw markers on the map and you have to take the dragon to go down into the pit where the boss was.
I didn't understand that, so I just manually ran, dropped down the hole and just died and was like, how did you get down here?
I was such a noob. I still am. It's not that bad anymore.
That is so nice, I love that.
Alright, so we do have Perfect in a raid and they are, of course, pulling the boss here because you perfect absolutely blasting a boss.
Yeah, I do so much damage actually.
Well, Kushi is doing that split raid trying to get a certain item.
I'm not sure what it is they're trying to get him, but apparently this is very important
because they are doing that split raid while the rest of the raid is still doing them.
I wonder if this is going to be something that they do with other people as well if
they need more items.
Because we heard rumors earlier that there might be split raids and we were like, oh
my god, not split raids.
I thought everybody was just kidding because this is just like-
Oh, they're going into splits!
I'm like, yeah!
I think they were serious.
But maybe now they changed their strategy with it.
Like maybe not everyone in the raid still needs stuff.
Maybe it's just like a bunch of people that need a split right here and there.
And then maybe this is what they're going to do.
That was a wonderful blink from Hopeful there.
Knew exactly where the shadowy blaze went off
and then blinked right off,
so you didn't get clipped by the pizza slice.
There are so many flashy plays you can make as a mage just because the tool is available, right?
You've got blinks all the time and you can really minimize how much you have to move and make those clutch plays.
And they can also stand really far out there doing this space, not only because they have so much range and because they have blinks and mobility,
but mages also have these are not tools for survivability, right?
Which is I guess a big problem when you have two preservation vokers.
Preservation vokers of course having that lower range and in this intermission when you stand really far out
it's actually going to be hard for all of the healers to be able to reach you.
So the mages taking those further spots and making sure they're used to defences properly
actually really good because yeah I'm sure the preservation vokers are struggling a little bit to heal everyone in that intermission.
it is so nice watching this phase. So this fight is essentially cycling between two different phases.
You'll have this phase where you're baiting the shadowy adds and the portals are going up,
you're dodging the orbs, while making sure you are executing the mythic mechanic,
making sure that the red glowy adds are charging through the boss. As you can see the
red glow one to the left and two at the bottom of the screen here,
making sure they're going through the boss to remove that mask and then also
you have the intermission that they move into where they'll be dodging those
pizza slices having the shadowy blazes there's essentially cycling through
those two phases and then every time you get back into phase one you'll have
an additional masked ad that you'll have to run through the boss and start
you'll have three see what you've seen them doing is a two and a one or a
one and two, where they're only charging one ad through the boss and then two. And then
in the second phase you'll have four and in the final phase you'll actually have five,
which is really dangerous. After this intermission we're going into the five where they will
need to run three of them through the boss and once the boss has had three of them charged
through, it'll be permanently buffed. So up to three, the boss will get a temporary
buff. I think it's maybe 20 seconds if I remember off the top of my head, but once three of charge
through it, it'll be permanent. So it'll be saving that for the very, very end of the fight,
where there's a lot of pressure. It's going to be one of those epic moments where it comes down
right to the very end, halting damage across the entire raid, damage output increased,
and it's going to be very tense. It definitely will be. We're actually nearing our new best
try here. There it is. They have never gotten the Vostolo. Of course, a lot of people are
dead, but still very good to get some practice in here as they are in that second phase.
And of course, with those players dead, it's going to be a little bit hard to survive much
longer, but still being able to get this far, really good. Very well actually, also
perfecto, just coming in here and surviving, doing so well, being second on the damage
well absolutely blasting very well done by him and yeah we'll see how much further they can go
yeah clicks is absolutely blasting as well the enhanced shaman being so much damage to the
bosses we are getting echo's best pull on 38% currently now they will have to charge three
three of the masked ads through the boss and this is when the boss will have the
permanent buff. It's doing more damage and this is going to last until the very end of
the fight. This is the most intense part. You can see the three boss stacks that will
be there forever more. So this is the furthest we have been into the fight. It's just
very exciting and this is exactly what we want from them. They have the means to
see the entire fires. We're going into the final Eternal Night here.
Yeah, look at that Eternal Night. Just look at what's going on. When there's so many people
dead, then you also get more of the debuffs on players. Sometimes you can even get multiple
of these debuffs on a single player when there aren't enough people alive. And here's
it. You can see very well why we don't have a lot of melee players. Like, look,
if you want uptime on this boss and this intermission, you have to stand in melee.
with those lines on you. There's just such little space. You can see Nicen is getting
hit by someone else's line because there's just so little space. And oh my god, that
is the final A.O.E. coming through here from the boss. This is the end rage. And there
we go. We've seen the end rage. This is really cool.
You can see Jinjin hyping up the room there. We could hear him going, let's go.
that's the entire fight. You
could see the whole room gets
covered there and they'll be
pulsing damage across the
entire raid. So you really
need to have the dip offset by
that point. But that's it. That's
the entire fight. Rinse and
repeat, making sure that they
are absolutely annihilated. This
is a huge DPS check. Yeah,
certainly. Of course, as we
talked about, there were
multiple players that throughout
the majority of the spied, so
majority of the spied. So the boss HP of course being 30%, no one near the kill at this point,
but obviously seeing the enemy for the first time is hugely important and that means the strategy
that they have works. They just have to execute it perfectly. It's all they have to do. Yeah,
while doing the same other boss. Wow. But yeah, their strategy works. They need to get some,
they need to get loads of practice in just doing this over and over and over until everyone is
super comfortable with it and not to mention not just being comfortable but everyone's
surviving right there's just so much damage coming through they also have to be a little bit lucky I
would say with the targets because the people that get targeted by the portals they're also the
ones that get the orbs and that which means they take more damage and if you get the same
classes over and over or if it's squishy classes and you run out of defensives and that can
can be problematic, so you have to be a little bit lucky with the targets that get chosen.
And yeah, I mean, it's a division as well. I mean, it just looks so crazy in melee range,
right?
It is stressful.
Yeah.
Especially where the shadow of these lines are going out in such different directions,
you'll often see that the line goes perfectly alongside the shadowy slices across the
room. So they have to misstep, they have to reposition their line, right?
they have to step out of the slice and they also are moving their blaze so yeah
and then that can clip somebody if somebody's not ready for it especially on
the other side of the bus. They're also dodging other blazes so yeah they can
really really quickly offset them and there was a case of somebody just
sidestepping out of one area of the room that was covered and then
somebody else getting a blaze with the exact same line having to then move
out as well and they were alongside each other so it just it looks like pain really does it looks
fun in melee well we do have a medic back on the airlift desk why'd you keep calling me before I
put my hand up I'm sorry but I'm just gonna call you out like that okay so I was looking at most
recent pull I think the big thing that we are trying to track at the moment is that we want
around 90 million DPS. That's kind of the benchmark to kill Kvesa by the time we get to the soft
enrage. I brought up a hard enrage. It's kind of soft because you can survive it, I guess. What would
you call it? The enrage? We'll just call it the enrage. Yeah, perfect. Perfect. So I was having
with our damage done before that first death. We didn't rez the first death for a long time,
but we're still only sitting, I don't know if we can bring this up on the screen, we're
We're still only sitting about 16 million so we are about 3 million short
I do hear that perhaps a couple of changes still coming to the compound obviously some people still getting used to
Exactly how things are working. We have consistently been at about 20 million
DPS before our first deaths so it very much feels like a fight where I've been saying this as well
So I would you miss you so can you zoom it in for like where are my people that I'm I wonder when a first person died
Yeah, at three minutes.
That's the first person?
Yeah, so I can go further out if you want.
We can have a look at Moored Worldwood.
Yeah, so this is where we hit four deaths, right?
So if the first person died at three minutes,
then we hit four deaths at 3.30.
And if you zoom in.
Yeah, like if you just like, you need to click here
and then move your mouse to the left.
Yeah, but like the other direction.
Well, see now I don't know how to undo that.
You just like do this.
You just go back, just go back in your browser.
Just keep zooming!
I just go back.
As you want from here to backwards.
Yeah, yeah.
So this is our first death. We got all the way back here.
Yeah, how much damage did we have when everybody was alive?
Yeah, 16 million.
It was our GPS before our first death.
We have been hitting 20 million, but our first death came a lot earlier in a lot of the previous pools, right?
Like at the one minute mark here.
So many people surviving to 3 minutes is a big deal,
but we do need to see if we can get that DPS up.
And when is the end rate at what time?
Six minutes, I believe.
And six minutes is where it starts,
or it's where everyone dies.
Six minutes is where it starts.
There is no, like, everyone dies on this.
You can survive it.
It is a whole thing damaged with all the pizza slices.
So if you have ways to mitigate that,
you can survive for a little bit longer.
However, everyone will die because we can't survive it
for that much longer.
Yeah, because the question is,
can you get another set of two-minute cooldowns,
right, because that's going to be really important.
Most classes have a two-minute cooldown.
They use it on pull, and it comes up
minutes, four minutes, six minutes, right? So if you can get your six minutes set of coolants out
before you die, there will be a lot of extra damage. But if you cannot, then your damage can be a
lot lower in comparison. We can have a look at the damage done over that from six minutes to
six minute 30 phase if you want. You can see topping like 27 million, some of the pulses are
are coming up at 22 million so it is survivable. Yeah, it's a medium and rage. If you're in
there for more than like 10-15 seconds you're likely to die. Yeah and like it depends what
class you play right like someone like the moonkin probably is not gonna get his like
two minutes out because he's not gonna have like a big cooldown like a warlock can use
all of his defenses and maybe survive a couple of ticks and get his coolers out
Well, at a class maybe not. But then at the same time, do you have any defensive coolants left at that point?
Like, to be able to survive until then, probably requires you to use a lot of your defenses already.
If I knew where to click, we could have a look. But I don't know where to click on Warcraft Logs, I'm afraid.
Is it me, too, sis?
If... it would be under buffs.
Under buffs, you say? Here we go.
Yeah, it's just that everyone has like different kinds of defenses, so it's hard to tell.
If you look for, for example... Who was still alive at the very end?
people that use these abilities we don't see like we don't see everything but maybe
blur it's kind of cropped I can I can try and uncrop it if I do give me one
second so here we are fixing this yeah it was just someone popped out the
side there we got to the fence because there's a group cooldowns individual
cooldowns got to defensive cooldowns, damage buffs, defensive buffs, and then there once
that you can use a lot of them, do you see something called Blur?
I mean, there is a search function, oh that's not how to open the search function, yeah
Blur was used during the spell.
Yeah, is this the very end?
Yeah, this is the last day of the fight.
So Blur was up, Guardian Spirit was up, oh blessing of spell warding, yeah spell warding,
That's actually the point because spell warding makes other people immune to damage so a class
that would not be able to survive to the end and these are all this is very interesting to talk
about because these are going to be optimizations that they're going to really focus on once they
hit the end rage a few times once they get to this point because I think this time that they
reached this last phase a lot of people are not going to have to defense this right because
it was very hard for them to get there they don't have their immunity's ready but the
the better they get at the space, the more they can hold on to the defenses probably and
their immunities and then they can use it to survive into this end rage further.
So the spell warding is going to be held at some point, all of these other immunities
are going to be held and then they're going to see which class will die early in this
end rage because they don't have a defensive themselves.
We can allocate the spell warding to them and then they can get the extra damage
out.
So that's all going to be super optimizations they're going to be doing later on.
So thanks Medic for giving us some insight into the locks and some more information.
And he's gone.
He didn't bring the hot chucky.
What a cookie.
What an ice cream.
What else?
We should add more stuff every time.
But yeah, no, the spell wooden is going to be huge on this fight.
There is so much shadow damage echoing out.
It's going to be very, very useful.
And yeah, I wonder what clutch plays are going to be made in that final section of the room.
really good point when you're saying about the two minutes right that comes in at six minutes then
two minute cooldowns are up then they're going to that's where they're going to be allocating
these daddles uh like spell warding or they're even their personal so they can get that final
huge bit of damage out i don't think they're lusting so far on pull so when we was looking at the
damage output i was wondering if that was without lust because i haven't seen it being popped on
pull, but I may be wrong, we can have a little look at this pull, um, there might be changing
things around, but yeah, I think something to bear in mind is this is the damage output without
the Bloodlust, which is very significant, that's an extremely strong buff across the entire raid.
Yeah, definitely is, and I mean obviously Lassie on pull will, it's very rare that
Lassie on pull is not the biggest like damage gain from Bloodlust, right? Because yeah,
you can say okay we last later even if all cooldowns of every player lines up again later on in combat
it's still incredibly unlikely that you would gain as much as on the start right? I think the math has
been done multiple times it is just not how it works because at the start people can precast
they are ready to press whatever they want like it's also the boss fight usually at the start
is a couple of seconds where it doesn't really do much so you just get all of this free time
Lasting later is always going to be a little bit worse, damage-wise.
Yeah, because not only is... well, not only...
Onple, everybody has their cooldowns, right?
And they don't quite align later on into the fight, as you were saying.
But usually, if you're bloodlust thing later on, it's because either you're on a fight where it will transition at a certain percent HP.
So on Frac, for example, last race, the Phase 1 transitioned out at 70%.
you'd often see that they would hold damage because they didn't want to push the boss too early.
So sending the bloodlust at that point was just kind of a waste, it didn't really benefit across
the whole fight, they wanted to push at a specific time, so the extra damage was not helpful there,
which is why we had the bloodlust then allocated to a different spot.
But on a fight like this, all the damage that they do, it carries over across the
entire fight, right? It's not like it's transitioning at a certain percent,
it's not like anything's changing. So the thing when everybody has their cooldowns available
and they can make full use of it is the most optimal way. So I don't think they've been
popping it so far because they may just be using a progress lust.
Yeah, that is very, very possible. Or a healing lust, you know, that's very intense.
The damage will be found as they get later and later on into fights. So right now it's a lot
figuring out and finding their feet. Yeah, and like one thing we talked about earlier as well
is like optimizing strategy for damage already at the start of progression, even though they
know okay we're not going to even be able to reach end range, we're still optimizing
a strat for uptime because we know we will have to do that eventually anyway. But,
that only makes sense for certain things, right? Because bloodlust for example,
the time you press bloodlust, if you shift that around, it's not going to affect your
gameplay that much. Like you're not going to play a strategy differently completely just
just because you're moving your lust around.
You don't have to change what you're doing
if you change lust.
So that is something that they can certainly
move around later on without it hugely impacting
whatever people are doing.
It's not like, oh, we're pressing lust on a different spot.
I'm gonna have to do everything differently.
It's definitely not, because you're gonna be
popping your cooldowns on pull anyway, right?
So that's gonna stay the same.
But now, oh, I'm doing more damage
because I'm pressing bill.
So let's see if they're using it on pull.
This time, I haven't seen it so far,
but hmm, we'll see.
So yeah, it would make sense that they're using Lush right now
to just get through like a difficult moment in the fight
to help out the healers and the tanks as well.
And I mean, also it helps us,
the Auger Voker for defensives as well,
like pumping it out to the group.
So I do think that Lush thing later
for Serbility or for Healing does make sense for now
and then maybe they'll shift it later.
And again, we talked about Spymasters earlier,
Spymaster of course being a trinket
does not have its full stacks on pull which I still don't necessarily think that it depends how
many spy masters they're playing I personally don't think that um not lasting on pull gives you more
damage just because of spy masters but I mean they would have done the math for sure and they'll
know yeah because it's kind of that awkward time right four minutes yeah you may have the two
3 minutes up again, but you wouldn't have the 3 minutes unless they hold for an entire
minute or 1 minute.
I guess one thing to consider is the end rate, right, the 6 minutes.
If they think that a lot of classes will not be able to press their 6 minute cooldowns
anymore, because of the end rate of course, then if that is true then you don't have
to use your 2 minutes on cooldown.
Yeah, that's very true if you're not missing out on any of these.
usage anyway then you can hold your your second two minutes for three minutes use
it then with the other three-minute cooldowns they're getting ready and
the one-minute cooldowns are getting ready and then they could last at three
minutes with all cooldowns again and then spy masters or whatever would be
ready too and then it would also be better for the healers so maybe but
then they don't have a potion because they have to use the potion the first
one minute, to be able to get it back later, so yeah I don't know, I don't think too many
of them are running it and yeah you wouldn't get enough of a gain to what you lose by not
dropping it when everyone has it go down so yeah, interesting to see.
It's certainly going to be a lot of these discussions that they're having as well with
the islander.
Yeah exactly, this is what they're going to be talking about, this is what they're
going to be figuring out, it's going to be all of these optimizations, that's
I personally find it really interesting, it's just how dissects, I liked my Brute Twister as well,
you had the different damage types, you had to have the priority target damages on the different ads,
you had to have the A.E. damage, the single target damage, and all those optimizations
was really fun. And that makes these boss fights so cool, right? Obviously the execution is
really fun to see as well and how they're playing everything perfectly, but then once you
you reach the end range, you're like, oh, the boss is on 30%.
Very healthy, we're at 30.3%.
And then seeing these like, and even these like super small optimizations already, like
it's actually matter so much in the long run, even just slight movement things and
as we like, uptime changes to make sure that the melee can always hit the boss without
having to move too, too much, like those are all incredibly important changes.
Yeah, just speaking of melee it's it's very funny when you watch one of their POVs
it is very much just trying to stare but it's like driving down a boat way.
Oh no. Scary. I don't know I couldn't do it.
Yeah we do see I mean I don't want to say it sounds mean but
But Kennex has been dead a lot.
Now I don't think he does anything to with Kennex being a great player, right?
But I talked about this earlier, Moonkin a bit squishy, so I was worried when they brought
in Kennex that they maybe have a hard time keeping him alive throughout the fight.
And obviously he's still new, he's only done a couple pulls, so he's still going to be
able to figure out when he has to use bear form, maybe even getting some externals here
and there.
So they're probably going to figure it out.
But yeah, I'm a little bit worried that we're gonna see a lot of dead druids.
Yeah, because you know, there's only so many defenses you can use.
I think mages need more.
We don't have enough.
I'm kidding.
We have a lot.
I think it's funny because mages have so many defenses.
We have so many.
But it's so bad against rough damage, right?
Yes.
And you have constant high damage incoming, then mages are also not that strong.
No, exactly.
It's all proactive damage.
So if I like this where if you're targeted to place the portal for example place the ad or you're targeted with the ad that's now
Dashing across or you have the opposite you're dropping
You kind of have to have the damage
Expected in coming to then pop it before take the damage for example all the time right when you use what's time?
It will lock in the health percentage that you have and your positioning before you used it
And then you can either move or take damage
damage, and then so if you take incoming damage drops you to 30% HP all the time and
you regain all of that HP back because you was at 100% fully pressed it. But that requires
you having encounter knowledge, knowing that you're going to be taking that chunk of damage
and to recover it. So it's all very proactive defensives. So when the ad's dashed across
you can pop a mirror image which is the damage reduction that they have to reduce the
damaging coming but if you get clipped by a blaze I mean you can kind of just use a
cooldown at that point just in case you get clipped but there's not much you can
do about that yeah it's all proactive the defensives and so you can see Kanek actually
went into bare form for that one because he still did a lot of damage to him
even in bare form. That is very scary also see as Barks can now coming out as
well from the Steve off so he's gonna be out of defense as well and just
amount early with the RNG. Oh, the tanks are going down, so we're going to have to go again here. But
yeah, if you get a little bit unlucky and get targeted multiple times in a row and you don't
have defenses available, then that's going to be a huge problem. Unless there's a grace period,
sometimes what Blizzard does is they give you some sort of like immunity to get an ability
twice in a row, which I think is cool when they do that. They just can't do it too much
because otherwise it becomes like people can figure out who gets the next debuff
right if it's if it's for like if you definitely know you're not gonna get it
next then you know oh well the only legible players are these five so they're
gonna be the ones getting it and then that's gonna be too easy for the
people to figure out so they can't do it for every mechanic or for something
like this they can do it because even if five players are not eligible they're
still more than five left to get the next debuff and then they won't know
for sure we'll get it still, but it's still RNG and so I do think that there might be
a possibility but I would have to check LOX to see if that is true, because then RNG would
not be that big of a problem.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, what do you think about Vantus'ing this boss?
Now, I don't know.
Okay, so Vantus' Runes is really interesting.
It's a one week use where you use it on a boss and you gain extra versatility against
that boss for a week and it gets reset on the reset so once they use this on a
boss they that's it they won't have it for any of the future bosses so that that's
gonna be some careful planning because what if silk and court is also a really
tight TPS check yeah we don't know how that's tuned yeah we haven't gone there yet
yeah that's true tuned yeah an insane amount where the ads were really rough
the boss else was really rough they were batting out to the very last
second in the middle of the room with all the shadowy goo. It could be that Silicon
Gourt or DPS Check, Queen Ancer act as a DPS Check as well. So you don't want to send
the Vantas rune too early because then that kind of locks you out of future fights. So
are we going to reset? That's the question I suppose.
I mean we're definitely, I think there's no doubt that we're going to reset. I
personally don't think, I mean the last of us would be, would need to be heavily
under tuned for them to not go to recent, right? So I think the question is not do you
want to answer? I think the question is do you want to this boss or Queen's court, um,
Silicon Court? Yeah, I think the option is those two bosses. Yeah. And even with those
options, it's kind of like, is the Vantus gonna provide a gain on Silicon Court? Right?
Yeah, so it's definitely going to be...
Do you need the Vantus Roon or can you progress that fight?
It may not die before reset.
I feel like the Vantus Roon is never something you need, unless it's like a damage check.
Like I think if it's a really, really tight damage check, then the Vantus Roon has huge
impact on it.
Otherwise, Vantus Roon always helps.
Obviously, Vantus Roon also has been nerfed for this expansion, so it's not going
be as impactful as it was in previous expansions. But still, it's like saying having one more
item level, right? Even if you don't need it for a damage check, it's going to make everything
easier. The healers are healing a bit more, everyone is a little bit more HP, and with
Vantus Runes the same, everyone takes a little bit less damage, the healers heal a bit
more, everyone is a little bit more damage, and that matters. It's like a class buff,
enough, right? So I do think that of course it would help for Ansewreck, it would help for
progression on Silk and Court as well. But if you would give them the extra damage they
need to kill this boss, then I would say it's worth it to use it here, because next week
they're going to have enough item level to get through this boss without the Vantus
run obviously, right? So the only reason in my opinion to not Vantus this is if
they know for sure that they can do the damage check without it.
That is just super scary from Perfecto's POV. They're still top of the damage even though there's so much going on at that point.
That is some professional movement.
So it's very, very distracting.
But yeah, I think that's something they wouldn't, like they wouldn't want this now.
They would obviously have to regenerate, multiple times would have to.
They would optimize everything else first and make a decision like,
there wouldn't be a live decision to make, they would make it later.
But yeah, because Francis is weaker, I think it's not that like, not make a crazy of a
decision anymore.
Like I do think that is something they could do and it wouldn't be the end of the world.
I think with a fight like this, they'll only really know until they're really struggling
at the very, very end.
We need to see the complete end of the fight when we go into the end rage, the
pulsing damage across the room and see how much HP the boss has left when they've
given it their all.
When it's out of progression, you know, we don't have so many players dead, for example,
getting there legitimately with most players alive, maybe sending about a res here and there,
but we want to get to that point, really see how much damage they have and how much they need to
make up for. And if it's a case of, well, this is going to be one of those God pull moments,
you don't really want to just keep pulling until you have the God pull, you want it to be
more of a case of this we need to be a little bit more consistent than that let's say um yeah until
they get to that point I don't know if it would be in consideration just because you do have silk
and quart you could get a silk and quart kill before the reset which is that like sure yeah we have a
few days left definitely um yeah it would be like this was the silicon quartz afforded decision
I do think um a good point would also be like the classes that you run here
like the setup is I think the setup is going to look vastly different on the
Queen's court it's gonna be a very different fight right so oh you see
Vantus runes on some classes that you're very likely not going to use on
Siliconcourt would also make sense right like for example now is Paladin
yeah and you're probably gonna play Guardian right on Siliconcourt so that
would maybe... now of course Vantus on the tank is not gonna be the biggest
game anyway but like they're probably also gonna run 4 mages presumably but I
guess it's gonna be hard for them to know what they're really gonna run so they
really want to hold back yeah maybe the second hunter could also be something
that you can use a ventus on yeah so it's still like this but yeah again this
is not something they need to worry about right now they are gonna be
worrying about this later when they do some real like min-maxi things because
usually you'd have a much better indication of the core team right sometimes you have a few
swaps here and there but you don't tend to see the raid fights have such differing compositions
and unusual comps as well right we've got four mages for example in this fight in the previous
fight we had four decaves um so it's an unusual raid composition and requirement so it could
could just be in an ordinary, uh,
for a previous rate here,
you'd have like an abnormal
comp every so often,
rarely.
And it would be more comfortable to
be like, right, well, we're not
going to use this force mage,
for example, um, in the future.
So we could use the banter
thrown here, but you just
don't know this, with this
race, what are waiting us in
Silicon Court, what's going to
be required because of the
tuning, uh, which also is
going to be really strong.
You only have so much of an idea right? I don't think anyone for example was expecting that from brood twister
Yeah, I was a huge surprise. So yeah, I'd be anxious as well of like well, you know ordinarily
Yeah, we could send the banters on these characters, but we have a funny number of support counts
All right, well
Nice
We're not allowed to this is it we're done the raid the race is actually over now
Alright, so we do have one CR actually available, but unfortunately two players, I had three players, so that's just kidding.
I basically actually had the Ankh-Totem there.
Yeah.
Oh, does Ankh-Totem work with the Reaper? I guess it does.
Because sometimes the Ankh-Totem doesn't work when you're overkill by a lot, but I guess the 10 million is not high enough for that to be true.
That's a pretty good catch.
Yeah, that's nice.
That's nice.
And the shamans, the red totem.
What is it called again?
It's called the amount of times I've heard
the name of this ability, and I keep forgetting it.
Yeah, the thing is, is that everybody calls it,
let's say the red totem, for example.
Yeah.
So you get so used to calling it in a certain way
that you very rarely call it by its actual name,
which is sometimes ancestral totem, ancestral totem.
Is it?
No, I don't think so.
These are the other ones.
Oh, this!
An ancient protection totem.
Maybe it's because I've just never heard it referred to as that before.
Yeah, it's just an Ankh-Totem.
Yeah, Ankh-Totem.
Prez-Totem.
Whatever, it's the Ankh-Totem.
Ancestral...
I don't care what's actually called.
It's just like, can you imagine in the middle of a high-paced raid encounter?
Ancestral protection totem, please!
Oh, that's so funny because I had this...
I joined their guild and they had some other requirements and one of them was like a scrolling
combat text.
I was like, huh, that's weird.
But then the reason why they had that is because basically you can remove most of the settings
from it.
It just is supposed to be like connected to another add-on that has like a voice call-out.
So whenever you were low on HP, it would like say something and whenever other people
would use defensives it would say something and except that I wasn't aware
that I have to turn this off when I do a BG so I did a battleground and the voice
is like guardian spirits and tranquility and polymorph and like all of these
things that were coming out and I was like oh my god this is how I learned
about other specs over the mage. I hope that they can get more good pulls. We did have
their best pull today at 30.3%. They did have a lot of their players dead at that point.
But that was the, I think that was the first time that they'd seen the end rage, right?
So far? I think that might have been the first time.
They've only seen it once, yeah, like under 30% pull, yeah.
So, we've seen it, played the whole fight now, but it's just so much reaction.
It's not necessarily a rinse and repeat, even though mechanics are right, you're going from
phase one to intermission back to phase one again, place some arcs, place the orbs, that
kind of is a rinse and repeat.
But because of the RNG of the shadowy blazes in the intermission and who's getting what
angle they're going to be shooting out at, who's where, that is also chaotic as you
you can see from watching a melee buff during that point. It's very chaotic so...
Yeah that's why they are, because a lot of people have asked why there are so many ranged
gps and it's main, it's not because melee are bad, but because if you have melee actually
do a lot of damage here, in fact they do the most damage as you can see in the
game right now, but the more melee you have, the more they're like
interfering with each other's space and the less apt time each melee has. So
So there's only a certain amount of melee you can bring without them annoying each other.
Because especially during the intermission, the melee players have this little space around
the boss, but there's certain pizza slices that are covered in bat, and you can't stand
there.
So they have to share the rest of the space with all of the melee players, and then
they also have lines on them, which can hit the other melee.
So they said, you know what, we want to have as few mails as possible to make
sure that they are gonna get the full uptime on the boss and they're not gonna
know each other and of course they're also they brought the melee that bring
important class buffs. Yeah it's the uptime on the boss and also try not to
try to make it as least chaotic as possible. We'll get one of the, maybe we
could get a perfect gop of when we go into the intermission just so you can
see truly how chaotic it is. I always love it. It's so funny to me because
When I see a rogue in a chaotic situation, it always, like, rogues feel so graceful almost.
Yeah, they do, right?
Exactly what you mean.
It's like they have these two daggers and they're just hitting the boss and they always
seem to be standing on max range of the boss too, very elegant, right?
And then you switch to demon hunter POV and they're just, like, very stuttery, you
know?
They're like back and forth and very harsh.
Dash, dash, fly, dash.
I like very like harsh movements with their mouths to whatever
Very big contrast between those two classes. Yeah
We'll have a little look where we're going to the first intermission
Hopefully we get to see it. I mean there's not to say that phase one phase one is
Absolutely not easy either. It's a very particular positioning. It also massively
as well. We've seen Kanax struggling, being absolutely trucked when he is marked. So, I
do have to make sure that being very, very careful as they are placing the first at now
in various corners of the hex again.
There it is, there it is, the demon hunter movements as you can see like bashing back
and forth and even when he's not bashing he sometimes just like either like straight
back back like yeah he's just like that's the ad ad sometimes and what he can also see is like
just like moving his camera as if you know a screen is moving enough whenever he doesn't
have any dashes ready he's like i need to move the screen like this is not enough need more apm
yeah whereas you'll see like one of the mage puppies or it's just very still yeah very yes
Arcane Blast. Arcane Blast.
Resident Hunter's like, ah, dash, dash, jump.
Jump, jump, dash, dash, jump.
They're like the Summers.
A Gen Z that is like, you know the TikToks
where they have like a picture in picture
because otherwise it's not enough going on at the same time.
So I was like, I need more.
Oh, unfortunately, we did have,
was that a few misplaced orbs?
perhaps so they are leaving themselves this little amount of play space right in the middle
of the room here you know what is really nice how buzzard have designed this arena this boss
arena so that they can coordinate their straps based on the patterns and the floor I love
whenever that is the case yeah I think that is so nice when you can say oh it's like
you put it right next to this pebble or whatever right there's this line and you understand
I think it's very nice when you can do that.
Yes, they designed it in a way that it is absolutely utilized.
You've got the little separation here on the outer corners,
and that's where the players will be dropping off their orbs.
We also have the points of the hexagon,
where they will place in the adds, which form the portals.
Then you also have the lines going in towards the middle as well,
which can help, I suppose, with the marks.
Or even with Meras, who's positioning the boss in a very particular way,
way so that it gets hit by two of the ads with the masks. So they have these kind of
visual indicators which are built into the game, which is always a plus, that they can
utilize. If there are visuals, there's so much visual clarity, let's say, or they are
able to utilize the pattern in the room and within the shape. You don't necessarily
need to make anything more visual, right? You don't need the external, ah, week
add-ons to aid with that they can really utilize like where they're going
based on the patterns on the floor. Okay there's still a lot of coordination
right you still look even here. You'll have the players that need to place
them in a very particular fashion in a very short amount of time so you still
need to coordinate that besides it's very difficult to pull off which is
why the weak aura is so fantastic for arranging them all but it is helpful
that you can use the boss floor to have a better indication of where
you're placing it. Alright they'll need to dash two or they're doing one in this set or
two through the boss. Yeah best was just a one because they'll only have three to get
rid of in phase one so they're doing a getting rid of one then getting rid of two in the second
set. They're making sure that they're aiming at the orbs away from the little player they
have in the middle of the room. This is a very tight DPS check so if the range
can AFK and cast the better. Making sure they're not getting sucked into the portals
eva because they're all nicely placed they can just afk in the middle now this
is when they're going to be dashing all of them through the middle as the two
that need to go for going through and they can just utilize that very nicely
and then we also do see the same message come out once the week is
assigned them to a certain spot right so unfortunately going down we can see
the angel body and spirit popping up there they do have a velrus
available. So they're going to be able to get that person back up in just a moment. Actually,
they have Ankh Totem, right? Yeah. There we go. So we can use the ancient protection totem
to get the horizon back up. That means they can see better.
Alrighty. So you can see now the intermission with the melee. This is chaos. They're avoiding
the shadowy slices going across the room that are rotating. All the players getting
beams making sure they're not clipping over each other. And you can see the perfecto.
just an elegant dance here, just slow dodging, swirling his blades, moving along the lines.
Oh goodness me. You can see why you can already have a certain amount of melee.
In contrast to the three damage shield that it died, unfortunately, and it's a ranged
it died, not the melee players. Foul ranged. Look at that. We do have that one Belarus that
they could use to get somebody back up. Probably once we have Frago back up having that
the defensive buff from the archivoker really helping out here so very likely
gonna be the one who gets rest or they're saving it's holding on to the rest
for maybe a healer in case something does happen from here and out. Yeah because the
the rest item doesn't count as a combat rest. Exactly. But it does go on a cool
down itself so you can still only use one in a fight. I can't remember exactly.
So, the Ankh Totem, you can use this, like it does not have like a separate cooldown,
if you have multiple raster shamans you could use separate Ankh Totems, but I think one
Ankh Totem is such a long cooldown you can only use it once per pipe.
Yeah, yeah.
Or maybe two times, I don't know what the cooldown is.
Yeah, maybe three minutes or so or, or five minutes, I don't know.
Awww.
Alright, so they can make sure they utilize that, but I, even so, even if they have,
let's say, the extra res.
Five minutes.
The problem is, when somebody dies, they're going to be losing a lot, they're going to be losing a lot of damage, and because this fight is already tight, DPS check, a death can be very detrimental already, even if they can get them back up, weren't necessarily maybe be able to make the damage check anyway, as we are now in the second world stage 2.
And we're gonna get the Sucks soon, but we are wiping as the tanks do, but the rescue is only interesting.
The Sucks just not happen, the tank word does, I don't know.
Either way, the boss is gonna be finishing off the rest of the raid here, and they're gonna have to go again.
They do have to make sure that those deaths that are happening are not happening anymore,
I'm sure they're going to figure out what is going wrong here.
I'm not sure if it's certain lies we're getting hit by or if it's certain defensive that they're maybe lacking on those players.
If it's just like, uh, is it a defensive issue or is it a get good issue?
Basically, uh, we're going to have to see it go anyway.
You never can sell.
I did want to, um, go to maybe a wave listening so we can see what they're talking about during this next poll.
Because I have a feeling we're going to get a very good poll now.
Yeah, so I don't want to see what the players are talking about.
On the wrong spot, I was running around...
Okay, and solid?
Yeah, for me, like...
Unless you want to be double defensive for these fucking places,
it's just getting on the speed.
Like, I pop through a little bit of speed with Blaze.
Like, if I need to help pot that, sure, but, like,
I'm gonna run out of shit here.
It's not gonna be sustainable.
Yeah, well, if for now you pop the help pot,
I feel like we need to actually practice the fight as it is as well, like you can just move every second
I think if you're dying, I'd rather you use extra there and then you just press the external assigner in the next situation
That's what I mean right now, I'm thinking we just double defensive every fucking thing I get
That's what I feel like I need to do right now
And we power up the intermission pairs so that the hunters have an evoker to rescue them in the start
start yeah it's also maybe an issue because we are free on ours and I'm the
first one out probably getting the least feeling out of everyone in the raid
any mission would be nice to rescue them I guess yeah we have rescue and
Zephyr for I don't know how the Zephyr is fine works on that I will tell I'm not
gonna make any changes myself but I'll tell the boss so they keep that in mind
one sec also I'm not sure about having a bit of a rescue or I mean I guess
they are doing it but I think it's quite annoying to do it it helps a
I mean, I imagine Chris is outside looking at this right now, right?
What is he doing?
I mean, yeah, looking at things.
I cannot tell you about.
I don't know what helps now, if it's healing or if it's actually just personal assignments
and external usage that is going to survive this fight.
Now, does anyone take your SAC on the immersion really at all?
My SAC is...
Okay.
It's a no on the rescue during intermission because it will be not ready for then the the circles
Also, I'm being told that it should work the
Week or now I mean I'm getting a press the macro. I'm getting a name. I'm getting a claw, but I'm I'm pretty sure I'm not getting like a marker
Okay, bro. Sorry. We need someone to press the button as well
I know I think they press the button
I get a name and a claw, but I don't get a marker. You're supposed to have a pre-assigned marker, maybe
Like, do I put them in mine or...
I don't know.
I mean, I want to solve it, though. Actually, it's DMG, I think.
Alpha, you back?
Anyway, Alpha will be back. I don't know.
I mean, you can see the guy, then, yeah?
He's just not marked, but he's glowing.
Just do it from the glow.
Yeah, and I'm...
Creeping him to a random, uh...
...portal, by someone.
Or to mine, or what?
I have to assign to a specific marker?
Yeah.
I was supposed to creep into my spot, though.
What are you talking about?
I don't fucking know what they cooked up
What are we waiting on at the moment?
I don't know what they cooked up
What are we talking about?
They're talking about the rescue we woke up in
I couldn't put it in
Yeah, so you get your first blazer
and you live that rally
It's pretty easy
No, one blazer
You should have it
You use one defensive to live that
You use one defensive to live that
Yeah
And then you
That is a double because of the stack
And then, yeah, but no, but you don't call for the stack then
You wait three seconds because you're not going to get another blazer to wait
And then you call for Robin's stack
Okay, they need to assign
They need to assign Fragot, they're coming in hot
Yeah
Okay, we're doing a pull
And then after that we assign
Just use one defensive, like whatever we applied for, the machine just uses
Wait, I would ask me first
Are you assuming now?
I'm doing this pull, yes, yes
Oh, after the pull against me.
Okay, focus on now.
Back to rescues for this pull.
Yeah, and the evokers.
Circle.
What about damage?
Why you come here, go purple.
Okay, no rescue shields for you.
Waiting, going out in three, two, one, going out.
Very nice balls.
Charges to the markers.
Markers, waiting for the daggers in two, one daggers going out.
What's the balls inside?
Was that a dagger first?
Where are they through the middle?
Through the middle.
And we wait for the daggers in two, one daggers going out.
Now that I'm hung, and we can red spell long, and get ready for the suck, get in the darkness,
I mean I guess you, whether you like it or not, you're getting in there.
Intermission positions now, look at her out, go to your position, and I'm gonna stay silent,
just game. Plays is in three, two, one, blazes.
Nice and you kind of play longer back now.
Check out this.
It's impossible.
You see like over here, right?
Yeah, I think we're doing good.
Like, it's like, it's impossible, like you were standing.
There's some other things that we don't use to use on our side.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
But it is making you very good.
Holy fuck, it's in quickshams.
That's what I like to see, you can just give it up, bro.
That Sack is actually a POPFALLAT, a POPFALLAT, a combo that can't be broken by red carpet.
We legit are bringing the POPFALLAT to the Externus and he's giving all the bastard this time again.
Dude, I need one Sack. And I don't even need it.
Okay, I'm just telling you, okay, I'm gonna keep it.
In the end when he learns the fight, I'm not gonna give it, but for now, I'm gonna keep doing it.
I wanna see his damage.
And at the end, I'm gonna be getting Discussion of Truth, but so I can cool down.
No, I don't know.
Have a good one.
Who's starting to tank by the way?
I explained and once again we mute.
Yes, I can do the mute if you want, but...
Yeah.
Look, I mute it for you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so the evokers right now are going towards...
Was it stock?
Actually, I saw it, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, we can.
I don't care, it's not gonna be nice.
You're not gonna mind me changing the score.
Intermission now?
I would be bad at this kind of thing.
I don't know what to do.
I don't know what to do.
What is the way to do it?
It highlights the person on the new screen to assign markers.
I didn't mind the purple.
Both times there's a person on the DLX.
Okay, so which are the three assigned markers?
Purple?
Yeah, no one has to be reset by the way.
I think that's a bait.
That was mine, sorry!
Production is being us.
We did not indeed kill the boss.
It's the rate that died and not the boss.
So unfortunately we're not going to have a giveaway just yet.
But it will happen eventually once that boss does go down.
Hopefully today still, that will be amazing of course.
Yeah, very much in the middle of our day.
I would say they've been going to bed fairly early around 9pm.
Mark, they've been finishing just because on reset
They will be waking up at 5 a.m. So we are working their way back to that point
But yeah, definitely especially if they're getting close right they could stay up maybe an extra hour
10 p.m. Kind of be in a while or maybe they kill the bus in like the next hour. So I mean, I'm sure yeah
You know what? Why not?
But yeah, that looked intense that Paul we have as I was throwing to wave listening and comes are muted as
for usual but but then we actually got to listen in on one of the polls there at
the very end but yeah I mean it's looking it's looking good they're definitely
still figuring things out as they're going. This looks like a very stressful
point it's incredibly stressful yeah and also it can be frustrating because I
do think I mean I haven't seen many like positional mistakes like it
hasn't looked like the players are standing in the wrong spot or anything
Most of the deaths are either getting clipped by the line sometimes or just like an insane amount of damage
Just like you're just dying to damage. Yeah, the problem with the intermission lines go out kind of at random directions
So they can perfectly line up with the shadowy slices that are also going out at the same time
Yeah, and depending on who gets what angle it's going out at which direction it's going out
I should say
It can be really difficult to find your feet in that intermission and it could just be that somebody moves that very last second
You were safe now
You're not safe
But they needed to move because of the way that it was going out
They had to dodge the piece of size and not be able to move along their line
And you just get clipped and then that can be very frustrating because it does such a huge amount of damage
You're dying and it's not necessarily your fault, but yeah, it just looks like absolute chaos. It's very stressful
especially from that as we were saying before for melee players. I don't say that often but this time
actually true. Alright we will see the pings coming out where they're explaining some of the positioning
again very aggressively it's like it's here look at it. That's me whenever I spam a thing in league
you have to do about ten times right? I only use pings when like aggressively not to indicate
anything just spend some on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone missed a cannon minion.
Well kids, that's what my teammates hear when I question about ping them. Although,
while restricted, you can only ping, I think three of the same one in a row. So you have to
get creative and ping three of the other one as well. All right, we're going into the next
poll. Let's see if they can get some more progress and their best pull being 30.3%
so far reaching the enrage at the very end so seeing most of the fight now it's just going to be
about execution and then in the damaging as well this is a very significant dps check but it's all
about execution and the damage will come naturally as people get more comfortable with the fight they'll
start min-maxing their movement get more comfortable and that will swiftly uh happen as we know
the damage they've done in
previous raiders. For example,
Sylvanas not dying at 50%. You're
just moving. I don't know. You're
not strong. I'm going to a gym
now, so we have to go to the
gym like every day is paid off.
No, just move this over across
the room. Um, but yeah, the
Sylvanas tier boss not dying at
on mythic they needed to find, they were barely getting to that 50% and then they needed to
find that extra 5% and they managed to do it, so it's going to be a case with this fight
as well, they'll find that damage, unfortunately losing two players but we do have the shaman
ancestral resurrection totem and we have the battle res, so I mean you do have to preplace
the totem right?
For-
Yes, exactly.
Yes, you can't exactly have somebody die, then put the tope down, it won't work that
that way and he's already been
out and it's very difficult to
predict that as we are going
into intermission number one.
This is chaos. You'll see the
players positioning themselves
in a way that they can just
sidestep the shadowy slices
going across the room making
sure they're dodging all of
the blazes as well. This is
the nice relaxing range POV. So
we just switched to let's say
perfect. Oh, we can. Oh God.
two more things going on.
Yeah, this is just over here.
Stop.
Look at him stopping the damage, though.
Yeah.
Oh, gamer.
Woof.
All right.
Well, going back into phase one, as you can see, it's so chaosic.
There's so much RNG as to who is getting what plays when, which direction it's going
out at.
There is so much to be adapted in the moment, and it's so far paced as well.
So that is really challenging.
time we go back into phase one with the glowing red shade to get one additional one each time so
you can see in the second phase one, don't know if that works, you'll have four of those
adds to dash through the boss. And of course when you have the four adds then you want to stagger
them do two two because every time a mask dashes through the boss it does get removed
but it also gives the boss a stack, and if the boss gets three stacks, then the buff will be permanent on the boss doing more damage.
It's only two, and then it will run out eventually.
It's also like, well, I guess it doesn't really matter, because the only way to dash the charges for the boss is by the mechanic that happens twice,
before the boss goes into intermission, and those two times you have to make sure you get rid of those masks.
you just do two and two make sure the boss does not get that permanent buff and then in a third phase
once you have five masks then of course you have to inevitably get that triple stack at some point
so you do two and then three before that final and the mission making sure that that permanent
buff on the boss doesn't stay for too long. How are you feeling about this fight? Does this
fight look fun to you? You looking forward to playing it? Well here's the thing I think it
does look fun and I technically would look forward to be playing it if I wouldn't be
playing such a squishy class like I don't envy Kennex here. I firstly, I am not having damage
fun if it's a boss fight where I feel like I'm constantly at the brink of death and I constantly
have to fear for my life. That is just so stressful and then you obviously also need to do a lot of
damage so you have to play a little bit like risky right especially like it's a druid you have to
avoid going to bear from too much, because if you just constantly bear from you do zero damage
so yeah, we did see Kanax switching to bear a lot, and he still did really well on damage
like at the end there before they all died, I think he was second even on damage
on his two minute cooldowns there, so looking really good, but yeah
a little bit too stressful for me I think
We need to wipe around the two minute mark so that the boomkin looks really good
That's where they're popping their cooldowns
Yeah, would you like to play this
possible do you think?
Yeah, I feel like this is one of
those fights that's really high
amped and there's a lot of pressure,
right? Mechanically, there's a lot of pressure.
You need to know exactly where you're going each time
and react very quickly, whether you're
placing the Orbs across the room, whether
you're placing the adds in a very particular
position. And then you've got the
intermission as well, which is just
absolutely chaotic. That's the ultimate
reactive gameplay. You are getting those
shadowy blazes, you're dodging the
it is going out at different different people every single time in different directions every single time it really keeps you on your feet and I for some reason love being in a high-pressure situation which is why I've always played at a competitive level whenever I've played games in the past
I've always really thrived and enjoyed that so a fight like this is like okay
There's a challenge because I need to do as much damage as possible and also mechanically. This is very challenging as well
The father list is really exciting. I would say there's no respite. It's just stress the whole time. Yes, I
Love stress
How do we stress all the time in the game and out of the game?
And I'm succeeding!
If you're stressed all the time, you never get a moment to really think about what's going on, you know, like, it's great.
You just always get distracted.
If you're always stressed, you never get stressed.
Yeah, if you're always stressed, you can never think about how bad it is to always be stressed,
because you never have a moment to think about that fact, you know?
You know what I mean? This is very deep.
just despair. I could feel the despair in the trap.
Oh no. But it does look extremely fun this fight. I even love the look of Brood Twister
as well. I was very excited about that fight and I'm really glad that Blizzard has tuned
these fights in a way where it really does challenge them. Because Brood Twister could
have very easily have fallen. The adds weren't tuned as much as they were. The outgoing
damage wasn't tuned as it was. The boss HP wasn't as high as it was. Then none of the
mechanics in that encounter would have necessarily mattered, right? If they didn't have to allocate
resources so much and really think about it. You know, if the ad health was lower, they
wouldn't need to think about how much damage they're putting into it. The boss HP was
lower. They wouldn't have to worry too much about boss damage, but because it was all
tightly tuned, they had to really think about it and plan out what they were bringing,
they were popping what and even on this fight they also have to plan it in the exact same
way as we can see in DC this is the proactive defensives there popping his
greater invis to take a damage reduction when charged by the ad with the mark
and you can all see how nice it is to have the mobility here on the mage getting
of course the weaker as being smart weaker us assigning the players with
more mobility to the further assignments in the quadrants so they
can be the ones that are standing further back. And the people in the other pizza sizes, they're
a little bit closer to the rate as Medic showed us so cleanly on his paint picture earlier.
So yeah, it's really good to have those kind of assignments, making sure that it's much
easier for them to dodge these orbs.
These, is he Gannix going down again? It's just because he's, this is a significant
amount of damage and there are certain specs as we keep saying that don't necessarily
have all of the defences available but they do need the mark of the wild debuff so it could
be a lot of discussion as to okay well what externals can we call for mechanics as we
are going into the intermission once again.
You're having a lovely time at range here.
No, I didn't do just you know side stepping, no big deal, spreading themselves out around
the room.
Probably listening to a nice Audi book right now, because it's having a good time.
every time the cut gets me because it's just stress. Look at these lines! They only lost
two hit. I mean that was not too, that was, we've seen a lot more players get killed in
the intermission. So having two, coming out of that phase with just two dead, is an improvement.
Now they'll have the four masks to deal with. There'll be four glowing red adds
that they will need to dash through the boss, which they will be doing two by two as I think
this is a reset. I didn't know you could reset the boss, there you go.
This is a new thing, a new reset. Well, that's very good because you know, if you could just
reset the boss, it saves everybody time. I'm not sure if everyone's doing the statue
thing now maybe.
They'll need the statue otherwise.
Yeah, yeah. That would make sense.
And that's where you can place, is it transcendence?
I think so yeah.
So the monk will place down a little clone of themselves or place their spirit, not sure
the exact RP of it, but they'll essentially place the clone of themselves and then...
Some monkey thing.
Yeah, and then when they press it again they'll kind of teleport where their clone is,
so if it's outside the door they can teleport out because they're tanking, the boss
will run with them, resetting it.
So that's a nice little bit of tech.
I don't know, there's the embellishments that allows you to keep your food buff
death because usually dying when you use your food bath but there is an embellishment
or there walls. It's not actually the embellishment, it's the food itself now that lasts for that.
So not like you need to have you need to use I think it's like five with the normal food you can
then turn into super food that stays through death. I've got a very good taste. And the
feasts as well do that now they're the good feasts. So it's very strange to have a wife
and you don't have to wait for people to sit down and eat now?
Yeah.
They don't have to do it once every hour, it's very weird.
So it's like, you technically could rest everyone and instantly pull the bus.
Like everyone would be ready.
Yeah, it's a very nice thing.
But people always, the people are used to having this like,
oh sit down face, where are you like, you know.
But now, you can actually just rest and do a pull time a straightaway.
Yeah, I think because you have to remain seated for the 10 seconds as well,
that's always annoying.
We have to sit there wait for 10 seconds to then gain the buff from eating
It's a very tedious
Usually in a bit of a plus if you don't have the possessed through death
Food buff then you don't usually have enough time
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Good news for you
Yeah, oh my nice. Yeah, only is the boss having chicken nuggies. Sorry cannex, but we are also
Well, I don't actually want any chicken nuggies if you want any of them
I was an immediate yes. Do you want to drink your cookies? Yes. I was like no. I
Still won nagi early and break. It was the best. She's actually very delicious. They're very very good
and we also have the
I didn't bring sauce, but we do have the sweet sour sauce. That's a little spicy from the
From the spring roll so we had a few days ago. I'm sure which but the string rolls were also delicious
and now we have those Nagis so you can eat some Nagis I will talk us through this
pool we do see Canik's POV. Yeah, I'll just get back, how do you see my Nagis?
You can just go very slow by. Oh yeah we are in the intermission phase now. As you can see Canik's having to go into
bare form here for the debuff on him for the line actually taking a lot of
effort again having to go bare form here it's not ideal and you can see
cooldowns already as well and he would like to press them, but he has to wait for his force of
nature actually to come up before he wants to press those anyway, so I guess he's gonna go bear
for one more time! Okay, that survived. Good, we still have one player that did go down in his
admission and we also see an angel nearby Ryzen. No Ankh-Totem was down, so it means that they
have to banarize the players. Let's see if we have it. Well, we don't, but that means
unfortunately Ryzen is gonna need death until they have the next rest coming up, which is
not for a while so they're probably going to be wiping here even when Panex
places the ad that swarms the portal he takes so much damage yes Gary low and
especially the boss will reap whoever drops below 10% it's extra scary
some good tech I've discovered actually wait I never I didn't think about
this but their form even has less value on this fight because it gives
gives you more HP, right?
It doesn't give you more Defensive, it just gives you more HP.
But HP is actually not that valuable on this boss
because of the 10% Execute.
Oh!
So you'd much rather have Mitigation
than Extra Health.
Yeah, you might survive an ability like it's not going to kill you,
but if it still puts you below 10%, then you're still dead.
So it's like Extra Health, it's nice,
but it's not as good as an Absorbable Bearden
or a DR.
Oh yeah, that's a good point.
We have seen a break timer go up, I think.
A fight like this, there are two aspects, right?
One, you want to get a lot of practice
because you want to see that intermission as many times as possible
just so you can practice dodging those lines in the moment,
moving in a way that doesn't necessarily harm the players around you,
just getting used to the chaos.
And also even in the other phase as well,
phase one, where you're placing the ads,
it's just learning the patterns, learning where you're going,
comfortable with it so yeah pulling over and over again can really help with the
comfortability of the flight getting out as much damage as possible that comes
with that but also because it is so chaotic you don't want anybody to not
necessarily burn out but you need everybody to be extremely not only awake
but aware yeah very intense fight so taking these like regular breaks here
in there five minutes to just get up stretch your legs you thinking they
They didn't took the break because of stretching and because of that.
Oh no, you know why they took the break?
So we can talk about displays.
Oh, thank you!
Displays!
Look at how beautiful!
That is so cute.
Actually, I'm the biggest fan of this one.
I'm just starting to like the art here and the color.
Look how cute.
Okay, the get-backed one is also pretty cute.
This one's from the author.
I love, so I love the spider.
also have the crabs as well. Crab's rule.
I'm sorry, but the spider one is just better.
Alright, that is pretty cute.
Look at the crab!
Maybe just because I really love purple.
Yeah, purple is just nice, I think.
That's why you got two with the spider rule.
Yeah, she's got the video and the t-shirt.
Yeah, we also have this beautiful sign here to show you
because unfortunately we don't have any walls to put them on.
Yeah, and then, you know, if you can't put displays up on the wall
because either you're in rented accommodation
or there's nowhere to put them,
you do have these wonderful display stands so you can rotate it and you can place two for example so
if you're feeling like you know what today's a crab brawl day we're going to just have crabs brawl
for today. I like that we can just like switch it around. I'm kind of uneven but
okay we need to show us some added display displays as well yeah texture ones. There is a
texture finish on some of the disc plates. I don't know if you can see here with this very
cute disc plate. Oh that one is actually very nice. This is the texture finish. It's got a really,
really nice detailing. You can see it if you detail it a bit. You can also see
like the texture of the different types. Yeah oh there you go. You can see the texture on it.
It is very nice. It adds such a nice finish. I think it especially is nice on this one because
like the ramen bowl here. Okay this is like a bit nerdy but you know it reminds me a little
bit of like these like old-school kind of like movies where they sit in like this
tiny little restaurant in Japan somewhere and they're eating like a bowl of
ramen and I feel like the texture when you hold it like this in light it kind of
reminds me of that like I immediately get this like flashback of one of these
movies. It's very cute. You can see the texture there which a lot of the
displays are available in they have such a huge selection of different types
little displays as well so we have these wonderful ones from the race like this design this one has
it as well by the way like it's the it's the the sign this by the rules with the text that has a little
bit of a different texture so yes it's very nice so you can get lots of these and they have so many
different designs on the website this is also from the previous race we have the three different
end bosses of dragonflies in a very nice beautiful display of art we have some from this
expansion, loading screen art. Very pretty. Is it a night up or is it a blood elf that
is the hunter? It's a blood elf. It's very pretty. But we do have a little one from the
raid as well. These are fully accustomisable. You can have a little display stand, display
these beautiful pieces of artwork. You have a code echo up to 30% off. Do you expect
not displayed in the chat for more information, but I absolutely love them. I have a displayed
from every race where we go around and sign them and now I've got a beautiful piece of
artwork that reminds me of one of my favourite times and everybody that I got to share it
with as well. When I went to Preachcon this year we had a Preachcon display and everybody
I was with signed it, so now it's like a really nice memory that I can just display
on my wall so there are many different uses for them and they are wonderful. As I said Codeko up to
that percent off. I had to. There's a lot of me so much that you had to be perfect. Yeah you
can do it. I'm sure that's bothering a lot of people so I'm glad we fixed it.
Old. All right but...
Perfect. Yeah a big thank you to display.
Which one do we want to display? I think everybody should get ducked. I'm gonna send a message.
Okay, let's get the ducked one. Hide the nuggies.
Yeah, there's no nuggies here, don't worry. I don't have anything.
Yeah. Oh, this to get ducked one is very cute. You can see, I think it's Kaneks who's wearing
the hoodie today. Oh the get that one? The get that one is really cute. I didn't bring
it unfortunately. No I always want to bring everything but it's like you can only bring
so much. I end up just packing everything cause I don't know what to wear. Then I get
all this really cool merch anyway and I'm like why do I pack my whole life? You know
when you think about what to pack and all of a sudden you have like this strange
things like you look at this like what this could be useful and then you think did I use this in my
life like the last year or so if the answer is no you probably also don't need it on holiday.
I'm coming in holiday but obviously it's working out for all day but I mean traveling.
I mean it's very easy to get co-op in this it doesn't always feel like a holiday.
We just sit and talk about a game that we love and be part of an event that we really
love, right?
That is true, yeah.
And the venue is also amazing, of course.
There's came a gender facility, really awesome, and with our chef, Julie as well, who's really,
really nice.
Oh, yeah.
We've been having some wonderful food.
We get a little snack every day as well as breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and it's
so pretty.
I think Mera's has been posting some food pics on her channel.
Yeah, I understood her.
Yeah, lots.
Today, the lunch was amazing. I went to Kinoa with chicken and there was hummus and the heart made hummus.
Yeah, it was so good. It's a little bit garlicky. I keep just breathing. We do love our garlic here.
It is very good. And the dessert. Honestly, I do have to say, yeah, like if I keep eating
dessert on every meal. I'm gonna go home being five kilograms heavier.
Well you've been going to the gym every day though, sometimes twice a day so I think that's
fine. And if you're not like the dessert, obviously like it's fine to have dessert once
in a while, but the thing is that Miris has, was his birthday like two days ago? Yes. And his
girlfriend organized like four birthday cakes to be delivered to Pstilty. So we had so much cake
which obviously we wanted to eat right so we just had this whole cake for like
every meal is like eat cake breakfast cake dessert yeah you're midday snack
cake like a carrot cake and then yeah it was delicious
raspberry cake they were really nice today we had like a like it was like a
chocolate did you try it no I didn't I am I you should try it if it's still
they're like next time because I don't have a sweet tooth oh no I don't like
chocolate very well you also don't like chocolate moves no it's sweet yeah I'm
I'm a sucker for savoury yeah I love crisps and things like that
chips is everyone outside the you say I guess yeah not french fries yeah I I
don't really have a sweet tooth that's so interesting like always I whenever
people say they don't like sweets so much I'm just like how like how's the thing
like because I mean I think sweet stuff is delicious but the same time I'm like
maybe I kind of wouldn't like to trade with you is that you know like maybe I
wouldn't want to crave like a bite of chocolate and it's like a serotonin
boost of that happiness feeling. Well my head is empty so I don't get that, this is the issue.
So I just feel sick. That makes a lot of sense, this is also why you play mage.
Yeah. Frostbolt, Iceland's frostbolt. Speaking of mages, there's been some class and spec
buffs coming in on reset. Everybody cares about this, but fire and frost are getting buffed.
The golden child
They were thinking there are not enough mages on the raceway version yet
We need to make sure that frost mages and fire mages are also brought
Yeah, we need four arcane mages
Four frost mages
Four fire mages
Do you think there's a chance that frost mages might be something that they play on the native bosses?
Well, on the next two I guess it's the only option
feel like the burst damage profiles are always favored in progression because
it's guaranteed damage when you want it and the thing is this frost is much more
of a consistent damage profile right and as I said progress usually heavily
favors more burst damage profile just because it can afford you to learn the
fight and during your downtime when you're doing as much damage you can
think about your movement a little bit more whereas movement will heavily
impact or downtime will heavily impact more consistent damage profile but not
that sims are the be-all and end-all but end-all but Frostmage is similar in all
game. The very inaccurate measure to look at but still I'm holding on as a Frost
advocate. Like um because there's two targets on the Silicon Court right?
Yeah. That Frostmage would be good on. I most of the time they're kind of
spread. Yeah I actually thought that Frost would do really well on
Rude Keeper for example but there was already so much AoE that the cleave
may not have been necessary and Arcane was doing a lot of boss damage. Frost used
to have quite a considerable, well not considerable, it used to be a funnel class
it still is a little bit arguably but it's not as impactful as it has been in
the past so yeah I suppose the boss damage kind of needed more
Rude Keeper with all that AoE happening. But on a fight like this where it's gonna say
patchwork, there's a lot of movement. Frost gives a lot of instant cast procs, so it allows
for a lot of movement, so I would have thought we would have a little bit of use, but I just
think a lot of the time arcane's cooldown timings line up really well for coordinating,
say external buffs, or the way that the fight plays out in general, but we could
very well see all my ints back, I mean, I'm still pretty cool with it.
The problem is that there's a damage amp, but that would be good for that.
Well on the cleave on the two targets maybe Frost might be better, but then they don't
have that burst for the damage amp.
And it's a really strange damage amp as well, it comes out with all the timings around
the time.
I think it's 70 seconds and 90 seconds.
Yeah, it's very weird timings. Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah, I remember that.
I remember my cooldowns like holding onto my cooldown for so long.
It's like there's no way that's worth it, like.
Yeah.
Yeah, but it might be. Anyway, it's really hard. It's difficult to map out.
Yeah, that's why I'm also really excited. I keep discussing damage profiles.
That's where I get bit too over-excited.
Oh, weird.
Looking at Brood Keeper.
Who is summoning? It's just a player that went out to get like an enchantment or something.
Let's see if we've passed any comp changes.
Oh, I think they're just the mages that are annoying them.
Oh, we are having some comp changes.
Alright, so we have subbed out Narko on the Rep Paladin and brought in Banner on an Evoker.
Reservation Evoker.
Do we have another Og in here? It looks like...
Yes. Mace Dean.
Yeah.
The Mace Dean is in now.
I don't know if they were running, was Fraggo playing Org?
Yeah.
I think so.
I think Fraggo was playing Org, yeah.
Alright.
Number two Orgs.
Makes sense, I guess.
Damage reduction overall.
Yeah.
Org being the first support class that we've ever had.
had came in mid-dragonfly, much to the surprise of everyone, because when Evoca kind of launched
as a new class it had the healing spec preservation and the DPS spec which is devastation, I think,
right?
And then they brought out the third spec which was augmentation around the middle of dragonfly.
Very interesting.
So I'm still open to sign a petition to move all the invokers from the game again.
I would sign it.
I know, it's just all the external buffs.
I just really like my performance being based on how I play.
Oh my god, I'm so with you.
I just love that.
Like, I can't help it.
I just really love, I will never in a poll for a log, right?
Yeah.
It's not like that.
I just really enjoy seeing how I'm performing in a competitive sense.
like how am I doing compared to everybody else? Like I want to self-improve, I want to learn,
I want to get better. I love that competitive aspect of like, oh how have I ranked in the world
in comparison to everyone else who's done this fight as my spec? I love that. But yeah, not like
an unhealthy way of like, I'm not doing mechanics or I'm going to be really selfish in order to
have logs because we all know a really good player will do both. That's why I did neither.
No, but I'm with you, like I think if there's classes that invalidates like data, it sucks
for those players that like looking at the numbers, right?
And I understand there's some people who are really against the numbers, who are happy
that the numbers don't matter as much, but I do think you could, and there's also other
people that really just like playing the support, which I personally, like I'm all
I'm not against the support itself. In fact, I play support in other games as well. I like supporting actually.
I just think that the way they implemented it was like the wrong way. I do think that a support class can exist without it invalidating numbers.
For example, there's like the Aug evoker, if they only buff damage healers and not buff healers and tanks, because that's a little bit of an issue with them as well, where they are considered damage healers, right?
because we don't have a support role. It's just not an actual real role that we have in World Warcraft,
so they are considered damage dealers, but they're buffing the tanks and the healers so much,
which is something that no other damage dealers can do, which makes them like the special thing.
And then they also give the damage dealers these buffs that change the numbers, and all of a sudden
the numbers don't matter anymore. If they would just be flat buffs, and you could actually like
in real time attribute them to the Augervoker so if you look at details you would in real time
see how much damage the Augervoker provides and just discount it from the damage deals that
they're buffing if that was the case and we have abilities like this for example blessing of summer
I used to work this way for Holy Paladin it would immediately be attributed to the Paladin
rather than the person that they buffed and if that was true for Augervoker then I wouldn't
mind them being there but yeah I just really like looking as I said looking at
a damage meter and be like okay I'm doing similar damage to this other player
that is also playing my class and that means okay I'm doing okay and not oh my
god this other person is doing like 50 million more dps and then it turns out
oh they're just getting a buffer or whatever right here's the thing the
The support spec or role is really interesting from a gameplay perspective, right?
It's great and it adds a lot.
Some people love playing that support class and it's really cool when you're in a group,
you have various specs or roles that are giving important cooldowns in a unique way,
which all does, you know, it's giving a lot of buffs to other players in the raid
and that's a really cool thing from a gameplay perspective.
just my cursed opinion of like I really love my performance based on my
performance and not how many external buffs I have available how many I'm
getting and then I compare if like am I doing well what do I need to improve on
oh that mage got 17 buffs well I'm not getting any
so that's just like my own personal thing and it should be around vlogs right
it's a game it's gameplay if the support class adds a lot of flavor so
be it. That's what should be important. But yeah, I'm not the biggest fan.
Me neither. And it's, yeah, it's just annoying to not be able to tell or to compare performances
as much as you were before. And obviously, I know that performance or comparing performance through
numbers can sometimes be misleading as well because it depends, of course, on the gear of
the players and of some RNG aspects as well. But yeah, the Voker definitely doesn't make it
easier. No, there are so many variables right like how quickly you're killing the boss, the
fight style right if there are ads, if everybody's dealing damage to the ads nobody is and in
some groups purposefully don't AoE and give somebody a chance to do damage on the ads
like alright it's your turn to pad this week. We won't spec into AoE so you can just
blast them for example so yeah I mean it's not what nothing's fully let's say
valid accurate are always issues here and there but I do just really like that
self-improvement of a player and I do really like seeing how I'm performing
and even in the raid I'm the damage meters just seeing if I'm playing well
or those kind of things is what I enjoy when I'm reading. Yeah me too me too me too
It looks like they are still explaining some things to Macyn that just came in on his evoker.
We did replace Narko, one hand up to ensure what their reasoning was behind getting that
second evoker in, the Paladin out, but I'm sure there's a big reason.
Probably survival, if I would have to guess.
Or maybe just having too many melee players, because we saw how stressful it was in melee
there and then the mission.
Melo looked very chaotic, very hellish, so it could just be that they're taking one more out
in favour of bringing in another range that made buff the classes that are already there. I can't
tell if he is definitely playing Warth or Devastation. Let's have a little look.
But yeah, it's definitely something like that, I would say. They've had quite a few
comp changes throughout today if you have been watching along or maybe you
only just tuned in. We've had now go from Guardian Druid to Prop Paladin,
possibly for the utility that the Paladin provides. There's a lot of off-healing,
spell warding, it's gonna be really helpful in this fight. We've had two Warlocks,
Canix has come in on the boomkin over in the Warlock. We have seen
I mean, yep, Narko most recently on the Rep Paladin.
We've seen various healers as well, I think we was running one Prez and one Holy Paladin
for a while, then it was in, on his Holy Paladin for a few pulls, so yeah, they're changing
things in and out, testing what works, and I don't know, they may not be fully happy
with it yet.
kush out a factor in I think kush was doing some splits while they were
practicing the fight they have had quite a few things yeah and while they're
figuring out their setup I do want to quickly remind you guys that we're
currently working on a song the beam stop there we go so low wave is helping
us out with a song we're gonna be creating the ultimate song the baked beans banger which
is by the way these beans ever so if you guys have clips to make sure you're helping us
in and to check out that tweets oh we're recording us right now oh yeah look at that
Fades.
That's how the song's gonna end.
We'll definitely help us out with the song guys if you have any clips and make sure you're
sending them in because this song is gonna be a banger and I cannot wait for it to be
finished and released.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think we've had many a clips so far on the couch where people were singing along
various...
You think so?
You think we talk about beams a lot?
Like...
I don't know the maple syrup beans are being ordered
Okay
Okay, he comes in orders like 50 500 counts of beans are all over the venue
Keep eating them the only thing that I know for sure is there's way too many English people
The last time I was at this broadcast, which was the first time they've been talking about hot water and they called it
It was you
It was Jordan is I was saying hot water. She called it tea water. I
don't think the Brits claim that
Water
You mean just water?
I don't know what happened.
That's honestly not a common term in the UK.
Also Carly.
Aren't you calling dinner tea?
No.
Those bloods and shores of Cali where sailors fall
I see the ocean deep
In tricky situations, I will be a lifelike
I spent a bit fighting alone
That's why I'm taking you home
Never felt something like this before
No, back for your time after time
Maybe I'm losing my mind
But I know I'll never leave you
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My name's Asman Gold,
and I'm excited to tell you
about my company Star Forge Systems.
When we founded Star Forge Systems,
we had one goal in mind,
make the best computers possible for playing video games.
Now I don't personally play video games.
I just react to TikToks, but wait, this, no,
this is not true, like, I do play games.
Who wrote this?
I play games a lot of time.
I play Diablo, New World, and,
well, I don't just watch other people play those games.
I also play them too.
I play them all the time.
You know what?
I own this company.
I don't have to take this, I'm leaving.
And the logo is a hammer.
into the might of my empire will wipe out the invaders from above no matter what it takes!
Ascension reserved only for the most loyal, the purest form of our evolution.
I will crush these insinuations in the name of Queen Anne Cyric!
Ladies and gentlemen, there is blood in the water as Echo has stationed themselves right
in front of Nexus Prince Kai Vezer and we are about to see a war.
A war is going to break out here.
The smiles on the faces, they feel good.
My name is Preach and I'm going to be spending the next few hours with you with a wonderful
Mr. Medic.
Our first cast, sir.
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it.
A lot of people have told me you're quite good at this thing.
I've done it four.
I've done it a couple of times.
Yeah, you have lost your pop filter and your mic though.
When you get excited, it's gonna pop on people, you know?
Is there a chance we get excited?
No.
You vamp, I'll find it.
Okay, so changes we've seen overnight is we've gone to a one-tank composition,
which is something I brought up to the castors in the caster room yesterday
and was laughed out of the room.
So what I want to say is Alex and Jesus, ha ha, such to be you,
I was correct all along.
We've got mirrors being kicked out,
now it's gonna be sitting on the guardian druid.
Swag has been brought in for that raid buff on the Monk.
He's going to be playing a Wind Warp.
You've got to get that debuff in there.
You've got to have that mandatory Monk buff.
Monk buff?
The Mancunium buff.
You've got Manchester buff.
You've got to have those Monk buffs in.
We're looking for a Bombie bonus as well if we can find it.
The debuff's just called shank.
Literally the shank debuff needs to be on the boss,
ready to glass him in the face
every single second of the day.
Now that's the Glasgow one.
Yeah.
So you're missing the debuff so far.
And that's more of a kiss than a debuff, isn't it?
A beautiful tender kiss, more of a forehead.
And if you've always pointed out, of course,
part of our Scottish production is the ones
who are distributing awful things.
Yes, I know.
It's a habit that they should really break.
But we have lost Mires.
Mires is out.
So now I've got to say,
there has been so much contention even on the cast
and in my live stream about this box,
like people are like, yeah, so much, so much,
I'm like, I don't think it is.
But it's so much so much like I think
Lizards because the way the boss health change right because we saw it seven seven seven seven then change to boob
Yeah, and then it got nerfed again, but like to a very specific number. I'm like, you know what I
Think they sat down and they mashed the hell out of this to be like it is just doable if
one tank
Vantus rune and I think Lizards specifically designed this boss with like you're not saving you Vantas the last boss
You guys always do that. No, we're not letting you do that this time.
We know you can do it, but you're going to have to send your resources because every race to
a first is followed the same pattern every time, which is holding gear. We're not going to use
anything until we get to here and here and it's like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, you guys wanted a fight. We're giving you a fight and here it is.
It is an interesting challenge as well though because you can tune for
echo and liquid. You can tune for the people that are challenging for the race,
for the world first and we've kind of seen that over the last couple of bosses. Like one
tanking this boss is something we don't expect many guilds to be able to do. There are five
DKs that we've had on Brute Twister as well with a possible three tank meta at times. Like
there is this idea that you make the first week of reset as challenging as possible for the
best two guilds in the world and you see what they can cook up and then after reset
maybe we see Kveser and Brute Twister brought down a peg or two so that the other guilds
in the world can actually start to challenge it a little bit better right?
I almost fully expect something we've requested many times is like make sure the changes you're
going to make to these bosses that make them far more acceptable to the rest of the player base
are already ready and ready to go week two get them going get them out there as the reset does
come in we're probably very likely to see the first balls soon and you're correct is
they want the war the race will first huge in the world of warcraft scene and I imagine
there's a load of people watching right now right this early in the morning whatever we're not
not even 8am here in Germany. You don't even play WoW anymore. I see it all the time. I don't
even play WoW, but when the race is on, I come back, I get my eyes in, I see other games
going, I do all that kind of stuff.
I mean, that was me. I've watched the race since Sylvanas and I haven't played WoW at
all in my life, right? The reason I'm here is because of the race to the world first
and the joy that it brings people and also the joy of split sometimes as well. It's
not fun to be part of, but fun to experience.
I guess this time. So you suffered. You jumped head first into this all wow casted.
Yeah, yeah I did. I kind of expected like first week would give me some practice in talking about the bosses and it did a little bit.
But it gave me much more practice in talking about random bullshit.
Which is a skill you could now take somewhere else.
Like you might be that caster. So let's say League has some bizarre five hour gap for whatever reason.
I'm sure it does happen with tech issues.
Not as much as he says, but you're used to a lot.
Yeah, I don't know. You can go, my man.
Yeah, I've got this.
Time for Bridgeton, let's go.
Do we have any spicy chips?
It's from Final Fantasy 14, which is the immediate point
you go to with Bridgeton,
featuring that wonderful character that we all know and love.
Catboy's United.
Solid play.
Yeah, yeah, Graha forever though, because, because.
Hey, he's a good character.
He's a thousand years old and he's just a catboy.
He's like Doctor Who.
It's Doctor Who a Catboy.
Sometimes.
Yeah, he can be, sometimes, can't he?
who can change whenever he wants to do but it is an exciting feeling here in
Cologne as the guys you can see the smiles on them doesn't we talk about it
a lot right this isn't something that is unusual so we've followed the race to
will first with echo for a long time is the flick that echo makes there's a
there's behind echo is behind catch-up echo that's less serious honestly in a
lot of ways and they always kind of don't seemingly have it together yet. It's a weird
thing that happens with Echo and then on a certain day something changes and they switch.
Sometimes that's when they pull ahead so you know if you look at Sepulchre it'd be
like when they killed Lord of Dread and then suddenly it was a new Echo. It was an Echo
that was fierce, dominant, it showed that world-first potential. Whether that's happening
today, don't know but what I can tell you is we are pulling the boss. Guys what
likely to see here is Krap Krap Krap Krap Krap near kill. That's what we're looking at.
That's also kind of this boss right? Yeah I love it. If you get through the first couple
of intermissions with everyone alive you are much closer to the kill. We have to remember
comp has changed overnight as well so they're going to be using the ancestral protection
totem on now after the tankbusters to bring him back to life meaning that he can eat
that taunt, eat that extra damage and still come back. One tank not a strategy we
too commonly see, but it's a strategy that has been working for liquid overnight.
It's a strategy that's on the checklist of how to beat this boss.
So we can track this all the way back to the beginning of time, which is there is a checklist
when it's a DPS, a DPS check, right?
And the checklist goes, drop a healer.
It literally works that way until you physically cannot drop anymore.
Then the next is can we drop a tank?
Now interestingly enough, this was one tank on the PTR.
It is something the guilds were aware of for a really long time in PTR testing
They realize you can one tank this fight especially because they weren't lasting more than 40 seconds. Yes on the PTR
But that is something that they were fully aware of and once once you've got all your DPS in and you still need more damage
It's a straight-up idea. Usually you drop healers
We've seen them drop to two healers on some end bosses because it was just required
And now we're down to the point where it's like, okay
We cannot physically get away with less healers yet
Although I will tell you Potter has done the spreadsheet should they need to drop healers. It is there
I'm done. So we'll keep eye on that unless
Unless something horrible happens, they may go that route. Yeah, I mean less than four healing
This is going to be really tricky. It's gonna be so hard, especially with it's not burst damage
It's waves of damage consistently and then the burst when you get to 10%
We lost a couple of players in the phase one already
You can see Robin is down as well on that tank don't need him right now
You're in the intermission the boss is only putting out these
Blazers and these pizza slices so you can leave him dead until after the intermission then bring him back up with that
Ancestral protection totem, which is a little totem that shaman can leave on the ground
But then someone can take as their uncle as they're ready to die while it's down
You're good. You can come back up and it doesn't eat your combat res usage
Yeah, so it's a wonderful item if you're 99% sure someone's going to die here
They're just going for a straight reset.
Nice, back in.
But this, obviously, we are at that Rhygalon point,
which is, it needs to be perfect or it doesn't work.
Because now the combat res, which are a resource,
we've seen this in Archimonde.
We've seen this on a variety of bosses where combat res
is straight up just a raid tool.
It just relies on the rest of the players to not die
because we're going to be using that combat res later.
So if you might remember like Archimonde mythic specifically
is in the final phase, there's this huge crystal
that's pummeling the tanks and you've got to all like switch damage to it or you
can just kill the tank and it goes away yeah and you can just carry on killing
the boss and just res the tank and just bypass that mechanic entirely the guys
always looking for things like that so now we are at we're at zero gay there's
nothing left you know Vantas has been sent you know there's nothing left to
do other than essentially dropping a healer all we're doing rogue tanking
Yeah, oh my goodness. Just like only DPS dodge every mechanic see if you can survive it. Can we take the boss?
No, we tried that yesterday with Revez. He was running laps around
But she's very speedy. Yeah, she's quite quick. Yeah, she's a speedy little one
She is a very speedy lady when you chase you when you can jump through the nether
It becomes a little bit easier to chase people down as seen. She's course been ascended by the power
Well it's not Zalitos, she's ascended by someone else's power.
In the transformatrium?
Yep, that's what it's called.
It's called the transformatrium?
Yes.
Yes, that's what it's called.
That does sound like a name of a thing.
It is, it's the transformatrium that ascends the Namibians.
Yeah, but Kvesa specifically is an assassin who's coming from the outside.
Ooh, good lord.
Yeah, I thought she was ascended.
She may be ascended, but she hasn't been ascended by Zalita.
Zalatath. The whole idea is someone is trying to mess up Zalatath's plans and at the start
of the boss fight as you walk in she's talking to someone through a portal.
Oh I'll read that.
Yeah.
Why are you killing her then?
You're not even fighting her yet. Well this was my debate right? If you get to 500 pulls
do you think she just says you're not worth my time, I'm gonna kill Ancerek and
then you actually just get to clear the raid anyway?
I think that's more copium than she dies at 10% because the crackpot theory that
was running yesterday is, you know, I think you might die at 10%.
Yeah.
No.
So this is going to be a wipe.
This is going to be a wipe.
And because it's going to be a wipe,
I think we can cut away from the gameplay for a moment.
Because we do have a flashback that we
want to watch of yesterday's action.
And with the players going through ready checks
as quickly as they are, I think we get it in now.
Get it in early before we get into those successive pulls.
Send it, team.
He can't keep up with Guardian's spirit up.
That's wild.
That is nuts.
He didn't even try healing anywhere else.
I'm just healing myself.
That's it.
That's the whole fight.
You've seen everything. Now they just need to do that with some poor damage.
They should be fine.
No, that's panic.
No way.
Oh, it does seem like we've had a couple new changes.
Alright, so there's no way.
I mean, good pull, though. Good pull.
Push come over here. Libby massage.
No, don't.
They gave me a round.
Oh, no! Oh, no!
Oh, run!
I'll be laughing as well, I'm going for real.
Hopefully now he's down, look at the fish.
Oh come on dude!
This is real, that's the entire fight.
Although they have a solution, everything's solved, we can do the same thing over again.
If you haven't eaten enough, you just need to swallow your mouth and mic for a second.
Although you have a soul.
What you'll see if we can jump on over to the test of catcher is we have mammoths tanking
in the middle here, we have xalates up in the top right corner, obviously watching over
us.
Unfortunately the offalopes weren't covered in lead paint, they've really done a number.
Have you heard of Richardson?
This is a co-chesson, I guess.
You can see just how much damage begins coming out.
20.5, 20.4, 20.3.
And I think that's it.
All done, 20.2.
There is only that last little bit of challenge now.
20.1.
I don't think we're getting below it.
20 on the dot.
Hey!
GG, freckle.
This has been a slow wormage of a way through.
The bullet was already on the skin
when it started and it's gone millimeter by millimeter through.
There's been no shooting here.
And it's been a doodle, a trundle, a trudge perhaps,
a meandering path taken through those intuptable worms
alongside the egg with the parasite
solely infesting our very souls
and now moving into the grasp of the nether
that has been Kivesa.
It has been a joy to the whole,
but also an experience of nightmare-ish monstrosity.
I've loved every second of it,
but mostly I've loved the beans.
Damn, dude.
Yeah, mostly I've loved the beans.
It's true, and we're into another pull.
Could be a time this better.
Straight back in, the story of Canex
throughout this raid has been a joy and a pleasure,
and I don't know if he's aware of half of it.
Yeah, he's gonna go, oh my, what the hell?
Just be like watching the clips.
Hey guys, remember when we put your face on a boom?
He's like, you put my face on a boom kid.
I've had a group of mechanical bin.
I've been jumping around in a mechanical bin
a couple of days ago.
And yeah, the story of Caddox, that'll teach him.
He used to be educated.
Yeah, he does.
It serves him right to come here.
Yeah, imagine.
He could come here and give us entertainment
while you're trying to complete the race award first.
Now dead here, I think, before the top of the top.
Yeah, that's preemptive dead.
Yeah, that's not where you're supposed to die.
So they do...
They have a combat rest.
They have a combat rest.
So they'll bring him up after the charges come out?
Not the one they wanted to use yet, but that's okay.
We just have to adjust later, because he might get wrecked in a second.
Yeah, it's possible.
Remember, the Ankh doesn't, or the Ancestral Protection Totem,
doesn't use a combat res, which is why you can use it in this sort of strategy.
But we kind of need all those combat res for later in the fight as well.
So it's most likely the players are just trying to get back into form,
back into shape after a night.
You know, you had a bit of time to reset,
but the mechanics might not quite be there.
You're just remembering exactly what the boss does at every single moment.
You can see a few deaths going down, right?
So going into the angel form now falling once again.
Yeah, this is going to be a complete disaster
until it works, which is so classic echo.
It is exactly what we're expecting.
If you follow them at any point, it's
going to be a constant state of failure, failure, failure,
failure.
Oh, OK.
They seem to be doing rather well.
And it could come at any time with these guys.
It really can.
They know that, too.
They know.
It's not a case of they're going to play badly,
is tuned to just murder them.
I really hope Silicon Court isn't like free after this.
It can't be.
There's no way.
People didn't survive more than 30 seconds
on Silicon Court on the PTR.
And it doesn't look like Blizzard
have been heavy handed in the nerf bat, right?
We, even coming into this week when we were in Heroic,
we saw a bunch of buffs to answer at,
like 100% damage increase on certain abilities,
100% damage on HP on certain mobs, right?
My expectation is that we'll get into Silicon Court,
we'll try it for a couple of days
and then it will be split, it'll be M+, it'll be everything gearing up for that grid of volts and the reset.
Yeah, probably. We'll go and see what horrors await us. It might come down to, I wonder if this, my gut feeling, is this is the gear check here.
Yeah.
This is, if you can kill this, you should be okay for the next couple, the mechanical madness is going to be Silicon Core, where it's not really about your damage,
I mean it matters, kill the boss best of all,
but it's going to be about absolutely perfect positioning
play.
This has got a lot of that in there.
In fact, this does have that Holanderous vibe
to what's going on, but more a case of really complex stuff
that's gonna need to happen
from every single player on the soaking court
to make it work and managing huge amounts of things.
But they should be okay gear wise.
It's more a case of like, can you actually do anything?
Because this is killing you out of brute force, right?
This is the sledgehammer fight.
The other one's going to be just a thousand needles.
The fight of a thousand cuts.
Yeah, with bombs.
Which is what you need.
I haven't heard of a fight of a thousand bombs before, but...
Oh, we're going to see it soon.
I did see it on Holondras as well. I'm pretty sure it's a good old day.
Yeah, I mean, that's a way of putting it, I suppose.
I wasn't casting, so it was the good old day.
It's hilarious.
Because I just get to watch.
Yeah, you'd think it'd be a miserable, drawn-out experience, but it was so fun.
cast a curse was real
You know what he hasn't died in a
And super close plays but as you've seen from the highlights video
We just showed you that every single person is having to do some really ridiculous stuff to stay alive in this fight
It's I'm impressed. Yeah, I'm impressed
They've been crunching really hard to change up and make the guilds adapt and not only in terms of gameplay
Oh, kush has gone down there, which is not what you want to see at this height HP
Make the guilds adapt to all the resources they have, because it's got wires to what they have and there's changed these fights to make them work and
Pulling them because it's mean it is mean but in a very enjoyable way
Yep, you know bit of a masochistic guild here in Echo. I think liquid are the same. Yes
I we enjoy the pain bring it on. I also want to know who's best. This is a race
It's not like let's killing the bosses part of it
But who's best you know, that's important to these guilds. These are hyper hyper competitive players
Second place might as well be fifth six seven
Yeah, exactly they both feel that way. It's like yeah, we didn't win. Okay. Why?
It's if you're putting all this on to lose, right? Yeah, exactly
In either guild they want that victory. So a fresh young echo is here. They've well rested
They didn't stay up too late last night
No, I was quite impressed because I thought when we got that 20% pull as the last pull of the night or it was a P3 pull
I thought they'd say let's do a couple more hours, but they've been very consistent on the wake up
We're in our chairs by 7 a.m. We're out of our chairs by 9 30
I do find it very funny that the feast just sits there during this fight
They ran past it twice. I don't want to grab some food quick quick quick quick
It's that, just picked it for you. Eat it quickly. I love this feast. They're finally moving to these nuns have to eat every bowl
Yeah, oh the years of my life spent just sat there waiting 10 seconds for people and then there's somebody didn't start
There are a few quality of life things
I think that frustrate me a little bit about raiding in wow
I think the feast dying that your food buff dying between pools really annoying
I also find the reset mechanic weird like as a new player a couple of times
We'd be wiping and someone say Reza healer someone read me and I'd be like oh, I've got a rest
I should come back into the fight, but that's not what you're meant to do
You're meant to res after the fight and then also after the bosses reset after the fight it happens
If you res too early something weird, you know, you have to fight the boss and it doesn't usually work as a healer against the boss
I
Would like a just like an automatic
We've wiped
Reset everyone reses half HP whatever like just an automatic
Yeah, it's quite nice. It's a little frustrating to have to like trick around it
It's like, oh, do you have Ankh? No, I used it. We can't Ankh on this one. Okay, put out a battle res.
We don't have a battle res. Okay, we all have to run back.
Oh, we'll heal right back.
Oh, yeah, right.
That's true. That's not one of us.
I'm not running back.
Whichever healer releases first has to do the Trudge of Shame.
Resolute you for your sacrifice as you make your way back.
Rumbacks are an antiquated part of this. Obviously something that's gone from both Guild Wars 2
and Final Fantasy XIV is the idea of any Rumbacks.
They just have the room with the boss in.
And that's it. There's nothing else. There's no trash. There's no big dungeon.
It's you go in they they build a really soft they put all their resources the
What blizzard puts into creating an immersive giant who?
said cathedral with
Doorways and platforms and trash packs and that they just put into one ridiculous room
So their latest raid the Arcadian is a pro wrestling themed raid
Oh, wow
So they built a huge arena with thousands of viewers they built like a wrestling ring
They have an announcer they did a load of voice acting
So the announcer they have like commentary teams like ourselves, but they like shit-talk you if you fail
They like call you out and like give you abuse
That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's really funny like wipes or died to something and he's going oh
A poor play there. He doesn't seem to know how to get out of the fire
And he's just kind of like yeah, that's kind of funny
So they've gone with that and then funnily enough the third boss in there the brute bomber because they're all professional wrestlers in the fight
We knew it had an enrage on the Savage version, which is FF's equivalent mythic.
I wonder what it is. The guy literally runs out of the room, climbs the building and body slams the arena.
Oh, that's cool.
And it just kills everybody. He just dives on top of you and body slams it.
I think we'd call it hard enrage in the business.
You are straight dead. Yeah, there's no getting out of it.
We have lost both Zatzi and Thanar at that point there, but we have Ark and we have the Combat Res.
not where we wanted to use it.
Robin has just died at the exact same point
which he was the snowball effect of this situation.
We should probably start having a little look,
you know, as we're progressing this today
as the HP value is coming out of the intermissions.
It's usually a nice tracker metric.
Usually at 69, but obviously we haven't made it clean yet.
So this is 68.5 coming out of intermissions.
It's a little less.
I saw.
You really want-
So 68.
Yeah, about that.
66 obviously is, if you mathematically break it down
into three phases, you want to be 66.6, 33.30, right?
But we are lusting on pull, we will get execute damage,
obviously as the fight goes on,
as the boss's health goes lower,
so you do have another kind of mini battle,
bloodlust later on in the fight,
but we have to get there first,
if we're gonna be able to take down Kvesa,
and currently a few too many mistakes in phase one.
Yeah, it's all mistakes that are excessively punishing,
excessively punishing, but that's okay,
they're used to this.
They've done this many many times they pulled off the impossible both echo add liquid have done it
What seems completely insurmountable and day one?
I've told every new cast through has ever joined us and like I think this boss is killable
Trust they find a way they find a way even if it doesn't look possible
They will find a way do they need more damage they'll find it somewhere
Do they need can they do it without a healer on a fight where everyone's getting murdered in seconds?
They'll find a way yeah usually because of big brains like you're looking at right there Chris Potter
I had a chat with him before we started today. He went get me the hell out of this boss
He's like dude. It's only boss 5 boss 6. Yeah, it could have been boss 5
He's only come back for this race after hiatus to lead the healing team and he's walked straight into the wall
Jesus Christ like I heard that was lasted two days. What happened the last boss had like a hundred poles
Yeah, not today. We're on boss 6.
I'd much prefer this.
I wouldn't...
59?
Yeah, but they've been chain pulling.
It's a one person dies P1, reset, ready check, pull again.
What else is it to learn?
Oh, 100%, right?
And like, that is a very liquid strategy as well.
I expect we'll see Echo doing that a bit more today because when you've locked in
your comp yesterday, it was a little bit of tweaking around.
We had the macro for the evokas being played with.
We had the positioning being played with at the start of the day.
Now it feels like they are locked and loaded with this commo.
That's so cool.
It's so far away.
Right, right, they're laughing.
Let me tell you the biggest drama happening in Echo right now, because it is so preposterous.
It's so stupid.
When Roger came in to ask the casters about it, Alex was like, get rid of it.
It's so stupid.
Can we watch, let's watch, next poll, let's watch, say, Jinji, our whole poll.
Let's watch Fraggo and you'll get Althana and you'll get an idea of what's happening.
Is it banana situation?
No, they have a ridiculously complex week order.
I've seen the code for it.
Oh, it is banana gig.
They started using the...
I don't know why it's called banana gig.
The safe word banana.
So Roger was like, hey guys, I can't say use the macro because it's too long.
So I'm just going to start saying banana and that means you should use the macro.
You explain what it does.
It's so stupid.
So the idea behind the macro is you get a private aura that assigns you the Nether Phantom.
So you press the macro to put a popular list that says, hey, I have the Nether Phantom.
Then the evokers get given a list where they have to rescue you into your specific position.
So there's a few levels of button pressing to get there.
But if they rescue you with the HeroTanek Twin Guardians, you get a 30% max HP shield
and they get a 30% mshp shield, which should help you survive.
And two extra global cooldowns.
Yeah.
So you see the mages are the top priority.
It means the mages don't have to stop casting for zero seconds
because they have shimmer.
They could keep casting.
They've been trading for this big years.
It achieves so little.
It does give this little shield, but it always kind of
leads to wipes like not always.
Sometimes it works, but it leads to wipes like that.
The thing about it is, it's 4 million effective HP in Shooter, and if I'm potter, I'm saying...
There's the rest of Sol. He's gonna move Sol. There you go, Sol. You can go, Sam. That's it.
Everyone's... Oh no, two people get rescued to the same spot.
It's fine!
They adjusted themselves, and now the rifts are in the wrong place.
Yeah.
You see what I mean? They're just like, why not just use the I's weak aura?
That's what the reply was for the players.
Because the one time it works, it's 4 million effective HP.
And Potter is there, he is smiling.
Because that's not just on one player, that's on five or four players.
That's the weakest damage in the raid.
Yeah, but healers don't have to heal.
That means they can DPS.
What we need is the window of the Nethergrafs.
See how much extra DPS our healers are getting down in that time.
It's so massively unnecessary, it achieves nothing.
It is typical Roger though, a little bit of an overcook.
You know, he had this really cool idea with the geometry of where we're abing the phantoms,
it's very pretty and now it's perhaps a bit of an overcook.
But if it works, we'll all be easing our words.
It's like the advancement of your drawing, right?
Because you came in and did that scuff paint drawing,
and then someone did a slightly better version.
And now there's like a really fancy version just to show how it's worked
to make their positioning and stuff all clear.
I'm not an assist. I'm an analyst same. Oh, if I do it, it's just like a handprint
You know like a toddler that paints their hand and just slaps it down. This is a turkey
Look, I can make a rabbit
Smoochy picture. That's how I get it done. But yeah, it's all good, Ben
It's all good
I do I give a shout of course to the sponsors making this event happen because they are very fortunate because we're gonna be here a
While yeah, it's a secret lab, of course staff watch PCs giving us these wonderful clean frame rates
I've noticed it many times with the login because people have been doing heroic pugs now
And getting those 30 people in there is like my PC runs like absolute trash. Yeah, I'm here
My laptop is crying as the shout to star for providing these PCs for us
Of course the max role who provide our analysis desk and no doubt pretty soon. We're gonna see a juice beef
Turning up because he smells mythic progress. Can you just
Damage numbers. Oh two people on the same one again. Oh, no, but they move it's fun
None of them have to adjust themselves, you see the problem?
I think it's because Mayvoker had a rescue.
Oh no, there's still absolutely scroops.
I think Mayvoker had a rescue and had one of the Nethergrips.
Nether Phantoms.
So he rescued and moved across, but then there was another Nether in the wrong face.
Come on guys.
Just get rid of him.
Don't bit it, Banana!
Banana!
Just let it go.
It's so pointless.
It's the easiest bit to heal in the whole raid.
It's like just passive healing will do it. That's what a non-healer would say
I've got a healer. I've made a healer for a long time. I've still been it. Yeah, so much effort
And it goes wrong. I
Mean do we have any objective proof that it goes wrong Mike? You know, that's true
Yeah logs it seems to be working person. I could see the shield applied. Yeah, that's the important bit
Yeah, it's uh, oh swag actually doing okay. I was a little worried because obviously on brood swister
Windwalker is not really popping off. Swag is a phenomenal player, not only a world first player in WoW, but a world first player in FFZ as well.
So absolutely phenomenal player, but of course Windwalker is kind of yo-yoing around, so he's AOE-fights, but holding his own, that's what we want to see in there,
because there's no room here for weaker damage, but you do need that monk. That monk buff, you've got to have it.
Mokka the Wild? No, that's...
That's the Druids, that's our wonderful language, the little totems and stuff, and the DB is more important on the boss, get extra damage.
Sue the boss is what you're after, so you've got to have that monkey in there, I'm sure Mires will bite him in there.
I wonder what Mires is doing with his time actually, he might be co-leading and doing M-Plus.
I see him currently doing his awakening quests.
That's how he enjoyed the story. He needs a break that lad.
MIRRORS has been doing far more than a human being should have to do in a raid
scenario. Not a perfect way out here but should be fine. A little bit more of a tug
towards the crossbow. Yeah you'd have to remember for now as well it was MIRRORS
who was directing the boss a lot yesterday. So now now is having a
little bit more of that responsibility of like where to pull the boss, where to
position some of these nether rifts. It can be a little bit tricky and we see
the first death going down. I don't know if that was to the tank buster.
That was finally a bit after that one.
That was deliberate, that was deliberate.
It was deliberate, as they said.
We'll go through what's happening,
cause it's probably looking a little bit too.
Yeah, it's very chaotic.
It's very chaotic.
Yeah, there's a strategy in place now
which is called preposterous,
and that's what's happening.
But that's okay.
That's what we watch these guys for.
We want to see the crazy.
If it was a standard farm kill,
nobody would watch anything,
because why would we?
But now we've got into the weird
and wonderful world of crazy strats,
which were all on the menu for a long time.
We had a board and...
Yep, this was there.
We just sent in some madness of where these struts end up going.
And we are kind of there now as we're...
This is the cleanest we've seen them.
Ah, you've cursed them now, man.
No, this is absolutely doomed.
I mean, they are definitely doomed.
That's not on me, believe me.
Well, everyone going into the intermission still alive.
We'll see where we spread out.
So, we have been seeing Liquid put two people down towards the back of the room
to have them just dodging away from each other.
So you can kind of see that here from Echo Thanna in front of Hopeful, but Hopeful gets
clipped I think by Pizza Slice, I wasn't quite sure.
Yeah, it was just a little unfortunate.
Hopeful does literally like go to Ogromar to get the hell away from everybody and plays
on his own at the back.
Obviously a lot going on here to free up the space in the room.
So if you're cast to get the hell out of there and leave the melee to themselves,
so they're coming out there, what was the boss HP on that one?
67.
Yeah, 67, sure.
Yeah, that's okay.
down so that we will be looking at on pace for killing this boss once that goes smoothly.
But the idea is of course the boss is really mean so you have those blaze lines like you
saw him frack coming out but the last one is everybody gets one and that room suddenly
feels real small.
Alright so the re-core is all kind of messy man.
It's kind of, it's okay-ish but uh.
When it works.
Yeah.
And everyone knows, so now you're relying on like this other person to know exactly
where the other person should go while they're also doing everything else they need to do,
like just sort yourself out man. The problem is it can cause frustration on the players
because they've been asking to not have it. They don't like it. There is a reason for it
like you said, the shield is good. I'd rather you just rescue me randomly, just give me
a shield then than when I really need to get where I need to be. So yeah, that's
have that's don't lose the smile because of a technique that's maybe not that necessary.
I mean you said the one time it works 100% effectively this boss is dead.
No? Yeah you have doubt in that? I don't think that's the make or break of what kills this
boss. It might not be the make or break but if it happens I'm going to say it was because
there's no way for us to prove it. Yeah I will bow down. If they literally get the week or a
right once and they kill the boss. There was the weak aura, obviously.
Oh, bow down. Yeah, it worked and then they kill the boss. Easy game.
Easy game. Easy game. We'll get into another poll in just a second time.
Let's talk a little bit about that tank buster because it is a little bit tricky to see. So
the main thing that we are seeing happen with this one tank strategy is that
now we'll eat the tank buster. I can't remember the name of it, I'm afraid. I don't
know if you know. It's like Vicious Assault. Yeah, Vicious Assault. He'll die
because obviously he'll die and then they'll res him with the with the ank totem so it's kind of an
enforced death but no one else gets hit during that time anyway so it's very it's very fine for
now to die and come back with the ank that doesn't use a combat res so then later on we can then
combat res him when he's eaten another one of those tank busters and bring him back to life
the intermission a very safe phase in terms of tanking the boss just not a very safe phase
in terms of the mechanics that you have to deal with on the floor as well
Yeah, exactly. So the fact of the matter is, two tanks is one too many for the damage check the boss requires.
That is again, but on the menu for a while, liquid sending earlier on because they realized, yep, we need that little bit extra.
Echo, we're talking about it yesterday and as well as like, can we get away?
Like I said, Potter is already prepared for like a three or even two heel strap that may work.
Quote, unquote, Potter has done the work on it.
He was sat at dinner telling Scribe, he's like,
I'm ready if you want to send it.
And Scribe did not look convinced.
No, I wouldn't be convinced at all.
But there is an argument that people are dying to one shots
a little bit more than they're dying to the Reaper passive,
right?
We're not seeing too many people hit 10% and then die,
although people are going low.
We're seeing more people get hit by a blaze
or by a pizza slice or by the Queen's Bane
and then falling just in a one shot.
So do you actually need healers at that point?
Get rid of all four of them in my books
and just tell the DPS to play better.
any bandages. Let's go about some bandage gaming, let's get that done.
Rycen did not seem inspired this morning. All the players here in the venue who are hyped up
was walking by Rycen. It was like, today's the day, dude!
Rycen was up at 5.30 this morning looking at liquid pools and looking at their
priests to see if there was anything that he could do differently.
Yeah, I'm missing anything. There's some shenanigans we can do.
There's always that case when you're dealing with the absolute best players in the world.
was like, have they found some talent that's weird?
I was not referencing anything then, by the way.
There's something they can do with priests.
Specifically with priests, not with anything else.
Yeah, not with anything else.
Everything else is working perfectly.
I don't think you didn't deliberately go down there.
No, I really didn't.
I realized that afterwards.
Yeah, I was like, oh, that's a foot in a shoe.
That is where Feat should go.
That's the place to be.
That's the place to be.
Mouths.
I would never do that, because that leads us on a different road, which has been a meme
for the last few days, which I also tried.
This is a minefield.
Yep.
Dancing shoes.
It's Dodgham.
Yeah, that rising is happy.
There we go.
Because dancing shoes, you put more pressure down.
Oh, no, I'm dancing shoes.
Oh, you're not tap.
Oh, surprisingly.
It's not like a tap.
No, my girthy, I'm very ballerina-esque.
You're not that girthy now either.
I'm still there.
Still pretty girthy, especially after Neil last night and the girl.
Oh, that potato salad.
Well, no.
We ended up in a traditional German pub, which went full forgot that we'd ordered food.
Like, actually came to us an hour and a half later, and we weren't bothered because we were talking.
And he was like, yeah, so I'll be honest with you guys, I totally forgot you'd ordered food.
And we were like, oh, it's okay. And he brought us uncooked mince again.
Oh, Matt! It's delicious!
Hard pass again.
What's wrong with pork mince uncooked to put on some broth?
Covered in delicious raw onion.
NUM.
It is very tasty. Don't listen to preach. He has no food sense.
That's true.
The other day we had a mince like goulash typey thing with potatoes,
dauphinwaz potatoes and you called it deconstructed lasagna.
From afar it looked like that.
Deconstructed lasagna.
From afar it looked like that, okay?
Your palette is less refined than this strategy for mech.
Dishually. We were looking at the picture.
You ate the food and then came back and said it's deconstructed lasagna.
It's still kind of was.
Ah, sure.
It's still a nice cheesy top.
Anything with a cheesy top is lasagna to you.
Cheesecake lasagna.
Creme gruelais, it's not that cheesy, but it's kind of lasagna-y I guess.
It's because you're not a choice to go with the creme gruelais.
It's because it's a off-beat.
It's because it's a lasagna.
It's got tomato in it.
It's because there's a boba place near me in Berlin that does a cream cheese creme
gruelais boba.
Ooh.
I mean it's like a thousand calories, it's way too much, but it's delicious.
And so that's why my mind automatically went to cheese when I was talking about crème brûlées.
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
Nazi's dead.
Nazi's dead, I believe he can't act.
So he should be okay.
Yeah?
Yeah, I don't like Peter, now he has to use the combat res.
That's okay, he's like, uh, he was under...
Must have been on cooldown, yeah.
It's quite a long cooldown.
It's quite a long cooldown.
It's quite a long cooldown.
It's quite a long cooldown.
Yesterday you were talking about not looking at the raid frames.
If you look at the raid frames in this fight, apart from to see if people are dead or not,
you are just going to be scared the entirety of the time.
Can we scooch over to Hopefall perhaps and see him out on his own? There he is,
living his best life, his bachelor life out in the middle of nowhere. I assume Gigi's doing the same,
yes? If we swap over to Mikey Boy maybe. Yep, there's also Milesway. Three of them are
true. Yeah, watch all these places now. They're coming now. Look, the whole room fills,
so it's super important. This is great. 67, straight into 66 is where they're coming
out so they're on pace my friends first one of the day yeah that is crystal clean
apart from the one death on top obviously expected like this cleaners we're
gonna get I think we'll roll with that but this is really good now let's see if
the week or a screws them up oh one person in the middle
I hope for rescued that is greed of an order of magnitude that's not necessary
it's also out of position slightly I don't know if he was getting a pole but
it didn't. Oh, I, Oh, nice.
Needle, Gingy.
Nice, Gingy.
Gingy has been very much on form
with getting through those gaps.
And still, everyone pretty healthy right now.
Down below 60%, we'll see the first cycle of charges
in the,
The shade positions were slightly out.
That's the problem.
Like it's, you can maybe get through that,
but now your actual shade charges
are coming from a weird location.
But that is better.
Yeah.
That's what we want to see.
We need a bit more of that.
We need that to last about another two and a half
fish three minutes and we might see the boss fall over God I hope they get there
and kill it yeah they won't I know they'll get there and imagine like a 2% on
this bus it would be invigorating but also just fill me with dread is like how
do you find the 2% I actually I might pop over to the Maxwell analysts that's
for a second to see what our DPS is before our first couple of deaths
because our anticipation was that we needed 19.2 million and I want to see
on track for that today. Yeah, for sure. Let's crunch some numbers. Blizzard's been crunching
all the numbers. So it's about time we did some math. First thing in the morning on a Sunday.
That's what we want to do. I'm sure many of you are maybe even watching from bed this morning.
Got yourself coffee, got yourself something going on, chilling out and catching up with the
race to world first. But the guys are just relentlessly pulling now. This is all that
execution. We have reached that point. There is some more fat to trim if they have to,
but they would really rather not. We do not want to have to start dropping healers or
or anything like that but if they have to they will because there's nowhere else for these guys to go.
Splits are kind of done. Mythic Plus is not going to provide them anything really right now. Sources of
gear kind of exhausted. Now it's a time and we rarely ever... where was the last time I would
actually like to do the check on this of when we've seen Vantas Pops. Two bosses before the
Fadali. It's been a long time. It probably was Sepulchre. I'm thinking of it. It was
probably all the way back in sepulchre when we actually saw the Vantas rooms used this early.
Because remember here we've still got multiple days of raiding left in the EU before the US reset
is coming on Tuesday so it's an early play but the guilds have recognized it. Was it as calculated
it? We want your Vantas used long before you get to Queen Unsurrect or if they plan for the
second reset and thought it's okay they can use their Vantas here. Do you want some good news?
always. Before two deaths on wipe nine of the day, 21 million DPS. Now that was on
with lust. Yeah, that's with lust. But that is also including, I mean, lust is 40 seconds long,
right? So that's including a minute and 10 seconds of non-lusted time. If we move up to three deaths,
obviously, things become a little bit more tricky because we are expecting one death around here.
You know, now is coming back to life. It's a totemic revival, still 19.7 million damage. So
So we are above the damage threshold for the first two minutes of the fight.
Things do get tricky as the fight goes on.
Have a look at some of the other pools as well that we have done this morning.
We'll jump over to say this 67% up to two deaths, 21 million.
Things with the last early doors are looking relatively consistent.
The question is whether they can maintain that obviously through phase two, through phase three.
But for now, pretty happy with where Ekko are in terms of DPS.
Yep, and cleanly into phase two again.
Now Echo not known for their consistency.
It's never been one of their strengths,
but we'll be looking to see if we can get through this
without deaths if they do have one.
They have got a combat res and players dropping low.
And you can see those assignments
of who's getting the blazes.
The game plan here of course is the big blaze
is coming at the end,
is to get everybody topped for that last big blast
of damage it's coming in two, one, now.
Here it comes, boom!
On everyone, and we are again at 67,
So 666 in a second. There it is. So DPS is seemingly pretty rigid there. They're pushing as hard as they can.
All right, phase two. Game phase back on. We start again. Get it right. So let's not try any, okay, we're getting
everyone in the middle. There it is. Get that shield on. That's nice. That's a really good position.
And Queen's Bay is going to go out onto these people that have the Nether Phantoms coming underneath them.
Jinji falling a little bit low, but he's topped up in time. Now going down as well.
have to look out for that tank buster. Flex did die. We got clipped by a ball there.
Trying to come back into the middle. So Flex is down. Come back where it's up, but you kind of
want to be saving that for your tank along. So those Anks now we'll see with those Nethers
put in good position to find some charge across and we lose four more. Yeah, that's why we need
to fix it now. Yeah, that's okay. They keep getting there. It's important they just keep
getting there. But again, consistency, not one of Echo's strengths when it comes to
to these kind of fights, neither for anybody. It's not because they're sloppy guys, it's
also because they're hard to fight. So it's more of a case of when you're doing full sand
like this that requires absolute precision. We saw it in that last, not this pool before,
slightly out of position, powerful, slightly out of position shade. That's it. It all
scuffs up.
Especially when so much of this fight is mapped out using the weak overs, using the positioning
that they have been used. As soon as something's, you know, 10 yards out of position,
yards out of position you're absolutely screwed. There's just no way for you to recover that unless
you pull something on the fly and they're trying to minimize the calling and audible portions of the
fight right. It's very much on rails as much as a fight like this can be on rails and everyone's
just trying to get all that DPS out through the battle but so far I'm quite liking the one
tank strat. Assuming people don't die it seems to be working. Yeah I'm excited not the first
time they've been here with this one you know don't die strategy it's it's been
an occurrence that comes up in the race to world first in the hardest of the
hardest conditions and that is right where we are as we're just over the
halfway line of this race to world first yeah dude I know you have to leave it
some point I'm like I said to you I think you're safe like it'll be dead by
the time you go like I think next Friday is the latest I can go or
Or maybe I can leave on Saturday if I really push it, but it'll be so tight.
You were saying, can we get you to cast on the train?
Yeah, I'd get you in there.
Calling in from the world sets, like, hey guys, yeah, I'm at a cure.
On the League of Legends World Championship.
I'm going to explore first.
And they're pulling, this, this, this, this, this, this is going to make it work.
Well, I have two other casters with me on those decks,
so they can talk for the majority of it.
And I just come in for the team fight.
I'll have to tune in if your head keeps going.
Oh.
Looking over at you like your phone just sneaks up a little bit to see what's going
but we hope you get the kill as well because obviously great addition to the team.
I hope you've enjoyed your stay so far.
It's been a lot of fun. I mean you must steal a job.
Yeah, I mean she's quite nice most of the time.
Yeah, but it's when she's not.
Yeah, when you get her in the classroom afterwards and she just starts whipping you a new one.
Right, it's not that incredible.
They don't know, but the vicious, nasty side when it comes out it's...
Well, it's all in our contracts now to not talk about it
it because the only reason she would come to the race is as long as we don't mention
that that's right because it would be a PR disaster for her attitude.
Yeah, it really would.
It really wouldn't be scary.
So that positivity is a bit scary.
You can start.
Yeah, you really can.
You want to point out, of course, you guys are nearly very close.
Hit that $15,000 mark for the RC Rumble, the next charity goal.
We're raising money for games for love over the course of this race to world first.
an amazing cause that is providing entertainment to children who are trapped in hospital with awful
illnesses and diseases they can't get out they miss out on their childhood entirely can you imagine
your childhood without the ability to just like play some games and take your mind of it that
distraction therapy to get through it. Also interact with your friends right their abilities
to play games with friends go on play some overcooked play some Diablo I don't know what
they're playing minecraft what do kids play these days games like that probably right
Forkknife, Roblox, that's...
I get to play Forkknife.
Yeah, they've got their VBots out.
Oh, they're hardcore.
Yeah, my kids are hardcore Forkknife.
That's understandable.
Alongside that, Games for Love provides internships and scholarships for those children after
they get out of hospital, helping them catch up, helping them find positions in STEM
fields.
Every dollar you donate is the equivalent to one child helped by Games for Love,
so we really appreciate it.
Already over 13,500 children will be impacted by all the donations that have come in
this week and we hope to give you some entertainment for your donations as well. 15k is the RC Rumble
as you say, we have who's cast is it anyway, hopefully coming up later today as well and
alongside that if we get to 40k, I'm getting a tattoo, Geet's getting a tattoo, Nagura
is getting a tattoo as well and Preach, I'm pretty sure it said he would get a tattoo
if he also gets a puppy.
Actually, my wife has said that, she also does not get to decide.
Oh really?
So the answer is no.
You did say you'd do the spicy chip at some point though, so.
I'm not putting anything else in my mouth.
Yeah, but remember when I came into your room while you were streaming and there's a clip of it
and I said, hey, are you cool eating something spicy for charity?
And you said yes.
That was ages ago though.
That was like three days ago.
No, it's too early.
You don't have to do it now.
I'm not expecting you to do it now, but at some point during today.
I've got, I've got a get a date tonight.
I can't, like I'm busy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, what about lunchtime?
I'm busy.
I've got a stream.
No you go stream it like the way you can do it on your stream I guess.
I do these holy books.
Oh interesting, interesting, interesting.
Yeah, they're trying there.
Make sure.
Sounds very much like someone trying to get out of an agreement he made to the children.
What?
There wasn't a charity goal for you to eat that chip.
It was part of our charity goal at 12 and a half K.
What?
I said, I came in and I said, would you eat something spicy?
Actually I said, would you put something spicy in your mouth for charity and you said
sure.
Someone will find the clip.
I'm trusting you chat.
This sounds like shenanigans.
Get in there.
ago now. I still have some people falling in P1 so these are much more just practice pools
than expected PBs and even if you get a PB at this point like all it is about tuning damage
numbers if you're getting to you know the final phase with 10% damage left you can move some cooldowns
around you can see if you can e-count some extra damage maybe colour healers we've been talking
about. Polariously they're ahead of their damage bar. Yep which is good. With three dead. Yep
Yep, just shows Waxy, Warlife and Jinji are not pulling their weight.
Yeah, hard trolling on the damage there.
Really hard trolling.
But that's okay.
They're going to keep going because the problem they need to check now is the survival ability
in the space.
Remember this is where they've been wiping when everyone's been alive, so whatever little
tweak they do, they need to make sure they can live through it.
So this is why they're carrying on.
They know they're not going to kill it, but they need to make sure that process
is in place and is going to work.
And they did survive, but this is the bit that you used as core players last
time. Let's have a look. Oh, nice beam so quite low. Remember 10% is the threshold for
death basically on this boss. Usually obviously zero percent the threshold for death unless
you have something like a cheap death mechanic. But here if you fall below 10%, Kevesa will
teleport behind you saying nothing personal kid and try and assassinate you. Yeah, that's
like a league champion either. Yeah, it sounds like a league champion. It's like
Z deathmark yep you get absolutely trutes well they're pushing on here this is okay
is that just your impression of all league mechanics are you get absolutely trucked or you do the
absolute trucking those are the two well classically i play an ad ap carry in the jungle an ad ap
carry in the jungle that's impressive yeah that's how i get it done job rambo they call me
i'm out there in the jungle on my own i just want to see you top us we've got to
Realist now Mike as the goal. I wish that was related to anything the game related, but it's not no
I mean 80 and AP are two things yeah
I know in the game and that's why I look together synergistically changing the matter and then I dive in the jungle John
Mambos fatherless traps. Yeah, and then I'm out there
lurking
Ooh, clever girl.
I'm like a little rat in the trees.
I'm going to get a rat in the jungle gnawing away.
And then I get the blue buff, and then I just take it home, you know?
Yeah, take it home.
Give it dinner.
So juice it.
Take it to bed.
That's what we do with our blue buffs here.
Then not call it in the morning.
Yeah, you know the way I roll.
Wipe out the curtains, go home.
Yeah, blue buff now a slot.
Because after you get barren, or after barren spawns,
goes to everyone on your team. Oh really? Yeah. What, is that why? Everyone on your
team gets a blue buff. Usually it's to be like all hooked in. Yeah, well that's if
it's before Baron. Don't know why I humped there. Yeah, it's like I put my blue buff
strategy on. I'm going to get real in there. I love that rocky behind blue buff ass. Again,
John Rambo. Yep. It is before 9am in the morning and this is where we are.
It's not everybody else about the Australians are here. Yeah, they're doing a sweet evening
Australian known for their love of blue buffs
Hey, they don't call it been chicken for nothing. You know what I'm saying?
John Bambo Sidney opera house been chicken rock and roll. I love it Sundays, right red buff approved
Kind of like a persona game as long as you give the right gift. Yeah
I'm a full flip on you in a heartbeat.
Just trying to seduce everyone and start you valine, you pick who you are.
You know I've never played it.
Oh you should.
It looks too relaxed for me.
I live my life on 13.
Yes.
I need to shoot something really quickly.
So it is very relaxed until you get the spreadsheets out and then you're mim-maxing
but it's also a very fun game to play with chat because you can name them after
pigs.
Okay, an idea to spot them.
Yeah, exactly.
You have pigs, you have cows, you have chickens.
You get to choose who's the...
Cluck, cluck, cluck...
What does the cluck-cluck do?
No, it's just the cluck-cluck-cluck.
It's just the sound, I didn't say anything out there.
Something, I don't know.
Yeah, I think that's blew up.
Production can check my audio.
Yeah, that was a little bit peaking, I think,
into the future of the stream.
I'm not sure if I'd name my audience after animals,
unless they can do things.
Do we have a slaughterhouse?
No.
Sadly, you can't kill them, I don't think.
That's the point!
Yeah, there's probably a mod.
There's probably a mod where you can do that.
Frostpunk might be more your style.
Oh yeah, Frostpunk was bad.
Yeah, it didn't go well.
There's two coming out soon as well.
Yeah, and they just added Twitch integration.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, because I think they did get the feedback.
One of the greatest things for streamers
doing Frostpunk is that you could name all the individuals
after they've been on the stream.
Obviously.
They could tell stories, they could die,
they would cheer each other and have kids.
And then we were looking forward to Frostpunk soon.
It was like, no, because it's more populous now.
Yeah.
A lot more city scale.
They're like, oh, I don't know.
Okay, we're about to switch into question.
Ah.
So, we'll see.
We'll see what comes of that as we move on here.
And they're getting a smoother pull.
I don't, they're never going to be consistent.
No, that's the thing.
We're kind of expecting to come in midway through
phase two of this boss with the seriousness, you know?
If they can get there, it's like, ooh,
little bit of hope, little bit of expectation,
but until that point, always fair and lovely.
You know, some people are gonna die
If they get to that cool, we'll then get serious about it.
But until then, salmon lasagna.
What are your thoughts?
I didn't mind it.
And I'm always, honestly, the salmon lasagna was not that bad.
I don't think most people tried it.
They heard of what it was and then just didn't have it
because it was called salmon lasagna.
And it's understandable, right?
It's totally understandable.
But I was like, I'm really hungry.
It was made by a chef.
I'm gonna try it and it was fine.
Yeah, it was fine.
It was different, but it was fine.
It was totally edible, it was okay.
It wasn't, you know, it wasn't really good eating here.
The food here has been so long.
I'm not saying I've went out and logged it
and like I've been hunting down a place that will make it.
That's not been the case.
So let's see what's going on here.
Rycen has gone down.
They have got the combat res available for Rycen.
It's not ideal, but you can still heal in the Angel farm.
You could also maybe ruin the talent
where you could do some snarling at the end of this.
But you can see, hopeful out here,
all the mages doing absolute max range
to provide as much room for their friends as possible.
He's got a little bit spicy there at the end.
Yeah, we have an Ankhri of one combat res,
but with an healer down, not looking good.
But again, ahead of the DPS again,
they're about a percentage ahead of their best.
They came out of that 66, which is before 66.
Yeah, which is great.
That's what we're looking for.
Obviously, you don't want to be using the Ankhs as well,
because you need to save those for the tank later on.
That's how we are at one tanking of this boss.
Apparently, someone was on you, it was awful.
and this was a reported morning about it, I'm gonna try it.
This happened in the last race to the world first, yes.
No, not the last one.
Where was the one before?
It was at Saploc.
It was Vaz.
The problem was, right, I actually felt bad for the,
they were catered, right, from these places
for the food here.
I know we've got to talk about the food here a lot,
but it's a big deal, like, because you have to
get everybody not miserable with food,
and you don't want everybody in pizza all the time
falling asleep and stuff like that.
True.
But we were there for so long,
because that was the whole understanding.
Yeah, like three and a half weeks at that point people started complaining because the food was recycling and the guys like we don't
What do you want right you guys have been fed fires every day three meals three meals a day for three weeks now
And we're kind of running out of ideas to keep giving you and you all have the little complaints because at that point
I love you if you're not like open to trying a lot of things little things start to annoy you
And they kept coming back. I remember log up in particular. I was like, so you stop giving me mushrooms
I don't like mushrooms. Can I have something without mushrooms? And then for the next three meals, they all had mushrooms in is like
What are you doing? Yeah, but it all these little things started to great
And they tried new things and one of them was some of those onion
Yeah, I think people also you forget that cooking for yourself is not like cooking for 20 people or 30 people
Ish here is not the same as cooking for yourself 30 times. You can't just do the same thing like half of it like
Not cafeteria food. What's the word I'm looking for? Catered food. Catered food is doing it at that scale is a lot trickier than just making, oh, I'm just going to make 20 chicken lasagnas.
Well, you say this isn't good. I feel it is a learning moment for our readers.
I think that was the weak aura again.
Yep. Well, if one in five pools are screwed by the weak aura, is that an acceptable cost?
No. Just go where you need to go.
I think if you want to defend me from getting stabbed.
The problem with rescuing you afterwards is, what if I drag you into something by accident?
There's nothing there.
Bring me to the middle, bring me to the edge.
So I get the shield for my Queensbane and you can zoom back.
Does a rescue stop you from getting stabbed?
If you hit 10% it won't stop you getting stabbed because you're still below the
threshold.
One of the reasons we haven't really seen a discipline priest, which is usually kind
of mandatory.
It's been changing a little bit over time but they are more mitigation based but if your health, it doesn't matter how big a shield you have as your HP is 10% and you're dead anyway.
So that's no good.
It's like pipe ultimates in the league.
Exactly!
Of course shields, yeah.
Right? And that's why I was playing AD.
Yeah, AD, well that's more lethality.
Well I mean you know that but if you come with an AD into that aspect of it then you just surprise the enemy.
It's true, you would very much surprise the enemy because it's a bad build.
And I would expect you to have good builds because of how adept you are at computer games as long as I can copy the build
Yeah, so this is my strat as well. I'm fine. I'm good Macat like I'm good at playing the game and understanding the game
But I'm not good at theory crafting anyway shape or form. It's the same with magic, right?
I will find a good deck and I'll play it well ish
But I can't make the deck my range of system like that. There's a level of investment there and we're not willing to put in
Yeah
It's too much time
I could have played three of the games since this point and then I'll come back and you've done it copy tree
Other people's builds and then then I'll just do that. Yeah, and that works. How do you play it? Cool?
All right, we'll do that. Let's have fun. I thought a lot of people would argue that was echo on tree Twitter
No, they'd like their strap was this they got baited the other way
Yeah, they did. Yeah, like nobody will ever believe me certainly on liquid science
But their strategy was the blood DK strategy and then they saw liquid do something else
I'm like, oh, yeah, and I shouted at Roger about it. Like shouting's a strong word. And but I expressed my opinion
It's your Roger because he was like, yeah, we got baited, you know
Because I we thought they were going to double blood DK from the start
That's what they were talking about and then they didn't I was like, okay, sure liquid's doing this
All right, and then they kind of like this not working. It's not what we want to do
It's like, so why didn't you do this? I've got bait
It's like you guys always always play better when you do your own thing. It's so true always
This is how you've won in the past is when you get ahead and it doesn't matter what liquids do
You already put your own strategy in place
Right, we see that with endless bosses that echoes one and I was like, why are you doing that?
It's like, I mean if it's working, it's working. I didn't work did it?
Mm-hmm. That's why you have to swap back and now it looks like you just straight copied it
Not that they don't copy things. Oh, yeah, everyone comes every day
Why wouldn't you?
But it's it's one of those things that's like, ah
Yeah, it was unnecessary wipeage time.
But that's also why I like the fact they've stuck to their layout of this room.
They're not following the liquid one, which is a little bit more short hoppy, a little
bit more on ad liby.
But I also like the fact that they're sticking with the weak over it.
I know it frustrates you, but it's their strategy and they must stick with it.
That means frustrating you as well.
It is because the players are getting annoyed and what I don't want is them to be like,
it's fun and games for like a few hours and then it's not anymore.
Yeah.
really good pole going like we're deep into the third phase we're about to slam the boss
and the bloody weak aura was confusing for someone under the pressure and stress of like
okay we finally crossed this line because that's what this fight is going to be is a
slog to get that pole where they're in a good position. I don't want something like a little
stupid carry me weak aura to bugger it up to get it secure although at that point
it might be good shield you know there's not saying there's not a benefit to it.
I understand right it's just the the swings and roundabouts of the cost and benefit of how it actually interacts with each thing
I kind of hope someone adds in an ooh-woo. Please rescue me
I'm surprised you had that. Yeah, I think that would be very funny. Oh, they're all dragged and okay
Everyone's in position. Yeah, and Fanna had to push himself all the way back to his marker there
So that's a carry Jinji and then throw himself back to where he needed to go
But you do have that in place to do that right you can dash to someone
And then you could see I think he dashed to Jinji or someone else and then I just walked away from there
So first set of rifts are down
We'll see the charges in a couple of seconds time if everyone stay healthy through this that would be golden already
15% of the bosses HP has fallen one death mask through a little bit of raid damage now goes down
Well come back res coming see the combat res as you say, but this means no one else can die
Yeah for the next couple of minutes. Oh, well swag's gone down as well swag's not listening to our calls
Yeah, please Frank. We do. He said no one else can die then you died immediately. Pay attention
So what's going on if you get mellowed? Yeah
So with the portal going down there, but that's okay
It's gonna be a bit like this this strata liquid and echo are doing is ultra risk. It is ridiculous
There is no margin for error
Whatsoever and with a fight with as delicate as finally balances this one is that means it's it's the one in a hundred
pulls were looking for here yeah both guilds are looking for it but they can do
it and that's what they need as long as they know it's doable they'll go and
they'll make it happen are we already fully Vantus I didn't check earlier on
looks like it yes sir which icon are we looking at for that I believe the new
one for this expansion is the little orange one a little orange one okay there's a few
orange boys of the top right second across. Okay, I believe so. The one that says advanced
30. I have done this. They've had his all advanced as well as splits. But I didn't pay attention.
Oh, I mean, that's fine. It's more of a I'm still learning the UI. And I know there'll be a lot
of people at home watching who have no idea what 90% of those debuffs and buffs are on the top
right corner. Right? So yeah, we should explain bansas providing a versatility buff to the whole
raid bit more damage, a little less damage taken. Obviously, individually, it's not a huge deal.
but when you multiply it raid wide it's a massive deal it's it's usually the idea of the Vantus rune
since it came into the game is that if your guild is like this is the boss we're planning to kill
this week because most guilds aren't planning to clear the raid week one uh is like this is our
progress point this is where we're working on and it's hard for us uh we want every
advance you can get you can use a Vantus rune which will give you this bonus against one
specific boss for the rest of the week so you can't like Vantus this boss and advance the
the next one I'd just be flasking. This is one bonus that you can apply to your guild
which should enable you in theory to overcome mistakes a little bit better, a little bit
less chance of dying, do a little bit more damage and then obviously you're going to
kill that boss, you're going to collect some gear and then the next reset you won't need
to ban to six, you'll have all this bonus gear and then you can ban to the next boss
and provide a little leg up on that boss that you're working on. Now typically
Don't these guilds do not want to be banter sing until the last boss. Yep at all right
If you look at Razageth, you look at Aberus, you look at all the Sakurai, if you look at all those bosses
They didn't ban this until they got to that last boss
Then they all send it because why would we progress the last boss without banter's room?
But they they figured it out
I think Blizzard has done the exact same things like they told they totally designed this boss to be banter in week one
And so the guilds have recognized that that's why we're down to one tank to get more damage in
And they obviously the versatility will help with the lack of keyless
This all seems to have been calculated very heavily by Blizzard and so the fancies is being sent
Against the boss because I love that with it just threw a bunch of numbers out and hoped it was close to the kill threshold
Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, I'm against the laws like seven and a half billion. Yeah
This looks very very
It's definitely been calculated by blizzard and I love it. I love how close it is to the wire. It's a very much a
you have to be in prime form with prime gear with every possible bonus given to
you to kill this boss and I think bosses like that really stand out in the
collective memory as well. Yeah like we talked about Hologros a lot as being the
unexpected boss that just trashed them right now we've had two kind of like
we're coming up to we're killing boss six of eight. I can check about what it's like to talk to the boss.
And we're already Bantist, we're already over 200 pulls, you know, this is shaping up to be the most difficult raid we've ever had.
Of course, we could get absolutely trolled in the next two bosses, it's pretty easy, but I really doubt that.
I very much doubt that. The guys know this is very likely to go to the second reset, certainly for Ancerek, where we still don't really know what even happens at that point.
In Silkencourt, the most footage we got was about 30 seconds from PTR.
Obviously these players played it without footage being recorded, but I was watching, I think, Drapnaus guides and he was like,
Yeah, so I'm just gonna loop the content behind me here.
I'll talk about the boss, but all we saw was the first 30 seconds because we kept dying.
You have these marks of paranoia, marks of rage on Mythic, where you can't touch each other,
but you also have to pick up moats from the other side of the raid.
But also, if you pick up three of them, you just do a huge amount of raid damage and kill yourself, basically.
So, it's going to be a very difficult fight, but we have to get there first and still 20% left on Kiversa 4 Echo 2 Clear.
Liquid have had a few more pulls, I don't think they've increased their PB.
I think they've had about 7 pulls since their last look, around half an hour ago, but they will be slowing down, with it being midnight there?
Yeah, it depends. It's always a weird call. It's like, when do you push for the kill?
Is it worth it on this boss for either liquid or echo?
The answer is no, because we've still got a ways to go, right?
Like I said, we're on boss six, this race is far, far from over,
regardless of if it dies for liquid now or it dies for echo shortly.
We're nowhere near the end of the finish line,
so like just heavily disrupting the sleep patterns
or doing anything like that is just not worth it right now.
You want to keep your team nice and stable.
If they feel that it's literally going to die an export,
it might be worth it.
Echo aren't there yet, but it's really kind of hard to tell.
We need to see some phase 3s that we've already seen them have to tweak things in phase 2 a little bit with this new setup.
And that seems to be working.
Last time we saw the cleanish entry into phase 2, they actually did better with the charges.
Let's give it a little recap of what's happening here for people who are like, why is this boss so hard?
Why is Liquid on boss 6 with 260 pulls and Echoes on 134?
So you can see these little portals that drop on players, these are going to leave these shades behind.
Now look at the ones on the right hand side, they're blue and orange.
You see that marked in red? And there's also the purple ones, got a red outline.
I'm talking about shades in the portals. Those are your death marks.
Now those need to be going through the boss.
Three of them have to go through the boss in total.
Because the boss has stacks that need to be removed before the intermission.
And every one of those red outlined adds that goes through the boss with that charge you just saw
will remove one of those stacks.
Now you'll see this aura that's appeared in the center right there says Boss Stacks 2, so that means two of them went through the boss.
Two stacks have been removed from the boss, from the shroud, but also gives the boss a temporary for each stack 10% damage buff.
So two stacks, 20% damage buff coming onto the boss, right?
Now they do need to get rid of the remaining stacks, which is going to be happening shortly here.
So now it doesn't matter, the boss only has one stack left, so they can send everything through the boss,
because you can see it's going to go just to one because the weaker has appeared now because it only had one remaining
Here's the twist
If they put three deathmarks through the boss in one go that temporary 10% damage buff
Permanent for the rest of the fight
So you want to avoid that as much as humanly possible, right? You do not want that to happen
So I actually think it's a 30% buff
That's how they've sent 3 through and she gets 30% damage for the rest of the fight.
Then we have the intermission after the first phase.
Here you are dodging those lines on the floor.
We use the word blazes for them off of Firec, which was a boss a couple of...
Well, one tier ago?
Yeah, boss.
Yep.
And then you have the pizza sizes.
So you step to the side of the pizza sizes, they will alternate between the quadrants of the floor.
Every couple of rotations, you get one of these blazes as well.
then everyone gets one on the last rotation of the intermission. We'll get through the intermission
and with Vincent repeat we do the same thing this time though. There are four death masks that have
to go through the boss rather than three so we'll send two and then two and in the final phase
after another intermission there will be five so you send two and then three buffing the boss at
the last possible moment. Yeah that's under the finale of the fight you have to apply
that permanent damage buff to the boss and it also goes further than that. We saw yesterday,
that's not good. That's not where you want to be. It was the weaker one. If the weaker one messes up,
one pull out of every pull. That was a really good pull. They were ahead again on the damage. Another
way you want to refresh them with the DPS boss, they were at 65 then. So they've managed to find
an entire percent and on a boss with this many billions of health, that is a lot. But we did
see yesterday because as medic rightly pointed out so in the first phase it only has three
of these deathmarks shrouded to remove which is you know the 30% in the second phase it's
four and then in the final phase it's five which and as you only have two charges that
means your first one you want to do two that's something that means you get a temporary
damage buff because it's not three but the last one you have to send three through
which will give the boss that permanent damage buff also if they accidentally send more
through it will just go to like 40 and 50% and be permanent anything above three
every every extra stack they give to the boss will be an extra 10% damage so
really really really bad if that happens but that is how that is that is the
mechanic they're dealing with it you have to send these red outlined adds
through the boss to get rid of the shroud but you get on the last one as
you said if the boss doesn't get one shroud stack left you can send
everything through it because it can only gain one stack max anyway so
that is the strategy but what it does mean is the strategy they're using can be
done in every single phase. It'll work fine. So in phase one with the three, they
take one off and then they all go through and they get two, or they can do two
first doesn't matter. In the next one they do two and then they send all
through but there's only two left so it gets two. In the final one same again
do two and then the last one they send everything through and that will
give the boss the three stacks which is permanent to the end of the fight.
How are they looking? They are looking pretty good so I'm once again looking
for ignoring everything after three player deaths, right?
I think it's a good cutoff.
We'll have a look at yesterday's 20% pull.
So three player deaths happened quite late into that pull,
about four and a half minutes,
but we had 17 million DPS at that point.
Today, we had three deaths at two minutes 40,
two minutes 50 seconds,
but at 18.878 million DPS.
So still a little bit short of where we want to be,
but much more consistent than we were at the start of the day,
if we have a look at say, pool number four of the day,
three player deaths, a minute and a half earlier than that,
but we were doing a little bit more damage.
Yeah, that's probably the bloodless skew there,
being a bit more relevant.
And also, of course, when the cooldowns come back
to two minute classes in the three minutes,
making the return, as you know,
anything about World of Warcraft DPS
is all multiplicative.
So everything that is thrown
into those cooldown windows
dramatically changes your damage
And then you kind of like taper off in a miserable nightmare until you until later on interesting.
Wechs just died straight away.
Yeah, with the Anton.
Yeah, it doesn't take it.
Yeah, they're recent.
Yeah, that was the Anton was prepared for Robin there.
So what they're actually doing is sacrificing the tank.
We are one tanking.
Yeah, they're doing that intentionally to slot another DPS into the fight.
That is preferable.
Again, it was something that they were doing on the PTR.
It became very apparent that you could one tank it, there was a way to do that, some guilds were doing that already, so it was always on the cards and certainly at this point, I don't think they can drop another healer.
They may change comp again though, this has been a puzzle all the way through, like wiggling it around, like how do we reshape this, how do we get this, what needs to come in, we've seen Canak Simons moving in, we've seen Double Rogue, we've seen Double Hunter,
We've now got Rhett Pally, they summoned the Narcalys, the Narcalys has arrived, he's actually changed his name in detail so you know it's real classic on the left.
Yeah exactly, they've checked the swaps around to have more evokers, evokers doing a certain amount of output HPS, which is what you can see on the healing meter there, is when they just need to blast the raid in a very small area, especially they are able to do this huge, huge engulf,
And massively heal the raid to just straight up HPS. And of course Fraggo now is Org
Doing his rescue
Into the right place that we call a salamd and good. There we are. This is the pull. We call it worse
This is the pull on the first attempt. Let's go. I believe in you echo
You can do it only 90% of the boss left to go. They could they can't do it
They've pulled off crazier things than this. It's when it will happen. I don't know. It's also the jump
I think like although this boss could die on any pull a 20% jump is a big jump
Especially with the nerves and the anxiety that will come after you get below that 20% like if everyone's alive going into p3
There's just a huge pump of adrenaline into your system
Everyone get it's still alive through the first rotation to that first cycle here in phase one boss down to 81%
We already saw Robin being brought back up with that on but he's fallen again
and we will use the combat res on him to bring him back from beyond the grave
Yeah, we're going to slice through the boss give it what one stack things the boss does one
So a 10% damage buff applied to the boss now
So anything that hits you right now is going to hit even harder
Just to get rub salt in the wound. There's some very very mean things that happen here
Oh a little bit of a bad portal that it called than I think I don't know what caused that
the portal in the middle that's a tank portal so it spawns out of Cavesa so if
it's quite possible they wanted to leave it there anyway and that was just a
little bit too close I don't think it was the week or no because I know you were
trying to bait me into saying the week or that was the charges I'm fully
banana up today, I'm a big fan. Yeah, I am full of banana potasian boy.
Just relaxing in my hammock with my bananas, that's where I like to be.
Yep, now we go through the intermission race, they've been getting better at it, it's still
extremely terrifying, especially with all these blaze lines going off, they did lose
swag in there as they come out again, people are similar, they're going to reset it though,
because nothing changes, that's the thing about this fight.
If you can do phase one, you can do phase three and you can do everything in between.
And dodge a wrench, dodge a ball, and that is the strat here. That is what they're going for, it's true, right?
It's true! It's straight on through.
Simple, just dive, dodge, dive, and dodge.
And portal, and grip, and doob, oh perfecto is looking, because the perfecto on the side of Kush's screen there is like,
just get me in dude, I'll kill this boss. He actually was destroying this boss yesterday.
Kush actually, kind of funny, Kush stepped out, he was like, I need one item off the first boss of heroic, that's it.
So, can I pop out for five minutes and go and grab the XIUM?
So, they're like, sure, we'll put a great, great group together for you,
you go and do that, and then Perfecto came in and did way more damage, I think,
and then, of course, he came into the room and said,
so I'm just not going to invite him back now.
Yeah.
He's going to have a new vest to the XIUM, he went to, like, 30%.
He's like, so I stepped out for five minutes and they're just not inviting me back,
and he was just, uh, he was just stood in my room while I was streaming.
I don't know what to do.
A debate we did have yesterday was removing a second Hunter, because there was Soul and
there was another Hunter in yesterday, I think, Show.
And we've added in another Warrior.
Are they Warriors?
Yeah.
That's because, is it rallying cry?
The rallying cry is great.
Yes.
So there's 10% effective HP on everyone and you get a proportional increase in your current
HP.
So having two of them do hit diminishing returns because you're really using the
first one at the biggest overlap and then the second one has to be at the
second biggest overlap, so it's not quite as powerful, but it's just more healing. It's more effective HP across the entirety of the raid.
So we will see if that is more effective for Echo to date.
There's now going down once again. He'll be resed with the Unk.
And it always shocks me to see a tank die. I'm always like, well, it's not what you want to happen, but it's expected, guys.
It can race him.
Oh, yeah.
He's going down, he just has the Unk though. He probably will get up at the stage.
Oh, maybe not actually.
I hope he's down as well. Yeah, it might just be a reset here.
Lots of pings going down.
Yep, wrong place.
No good, wrong place.
Oh, they have to use the act. They've sent it.
Cool.
And click stick.
Just dodge, mate.
Just dodge. I don't see what the issue is.
Just don't get hit.
I'm going to send the act, dudes.
I'm coming in like Indiana Jones.
I was going to make a big rescue place.
More towards the jungle.
Yeah, straight into that tree. You better watch out clicks as daggers coming to get you that reaper passive as well doing work through these fights
Although we're not dying to Reaper as much as we are dying to some of the other effects when I looked at yesterday
I think Queensbane was topping the list
Just killing people with that dot damage and then of course you have to watch out for the dark viscera
Which are the orbs for some reason it kind of implies that it's a body part of something a little bit
Yeah, what body part would an orb like that be I can't think of anything that spherical that
It's got to be a rotten liver or something.
Livers aren't circles, mate.
There's nothing that's perfect spherical besides nuts, and I think you try and bait me to ball.
Balls aren't perfectly spherical, are they?
Eyeballs aren't perfect, balls aren't, but eyeballs are, I mean they're closer, they're slightly
elongated at the back.
Eyeballs actually, as you grow, they extend more at the back, which allows you to go
from having glasses when you're young to when you get to about 40, so about 10
years ago for you. You don't need glasses anymore and then you go into needing reading glasses.
So at this point I should need new eyeballs in about two years then is what you're saying.
Yeah we can get you some. Can we? Yeah. I would love prosthetic glasses.
I would do it for a mythic boost. Yeah alright charity goal for 14,000 new eyeballs.
Nice. Yes easy we'll get some prosthetic cool eyes that I can zoom in with and stuff
and they do like some weird expanding contract. Yeah do you want colour changing as well?
RGB? Yeah, it could be RGB eyes. That would be really freaky. There's actually a dude,
I saw a post recently, he's lost a nine, his prosthetic actually has a torch in it. That's
cool. It's really cool. Yeah. Imagine that coming at you at night. Yeah, he's doing
a video walking around in the dark. It's like, you ever see Ghostbusters 2 with the actor
who's an aluminium. He had the torch eyes looking around the room and it's exactly
like that it's really it's very cool oh it's terrifying yeah yeah very cool at
same time yeah you would have to be very careful going out and demonstrating
this power to the world because people be like I'm just gonna stop that yeah that's
Manchester that is Manchester I don't like it I'm gonna stab it let's just make
that go away Greg's stab it oh but I'll go yeah no way I had like they were
12? I think I had about eight of them.
Geez, and Jordan had the rest.
Yeah. Yeah.
But that's because that's part of the tithe that we have to pay to Jordan.
10 percent of anything we bring into the office is donated at the shrine of Jordan.
And her desk is such a mess as well with a lot of gifts.
It looks like an Aztec kingdom.
But you've got to be on a good side, you know?
If you're on a bad side, bad things happen.
I feel like it's just good.
There's a reason Draknos isn't here anymore, guys.
That's why. Yeah.
Even though there's two in one in the shower
And he loves his two and one.
He does love his two and one.
He loves his two and one,
and we've got two and one in the hotel showers.
Yep.
Oh, poor old Drak is missing out.
You know, I'll teach him, teach him to be American.
Oh, imagine, imagine being American this day and age.
Ha ha ha, 2024.
Ha ha ha.
Bad times.
Oh, good.
Off we go.
Come on, Echo.
We want it.
Yep.
I want to see it in my shift.
I've got it for kill so fast.
I haven't had a kill at all.
I've only had one day of mythic fraud.
It's miserable, right?
Have you left a shift and then they've killed it
immediately after yet?
Food Twister.
Yeah, there it is.
That's misery.
You came in and I had been told it would be dead by dinner.
I was on the shift.
It was not dead by dinner.
Never believed that.
Was it Roger who told you that?
Yeah, of course it was.
Yeah, never believed Roger.
He keeps baiting me into thinking
they're doing splits as well.
Every time he sees me now, he's like, oh, Medic,
I hear your split, your session's coming up.
So we're just going to do some splits
for the next four hours.
Yeah, just wait, it's even worse for that, don't trust a word just wait tells you.
I did talk to Skype this morning and asked him if there was any splits on the horizon
and he said, there are splits, but I don't want to do them, which I think is the first
time I've ever heard that from Skype.
Yeah, his brain he doesn't want to do them, he feels he needs to.
It's more of a needs must.
At this point they are doing splits if they're needed outside of...
Splits or M+, I think is the general strategy.
MIRRORS has gone home I think.
And we can't blame him.
I've got a little joke, Wolf's gone as well.
Yeah, they've just gone.
Kenix just chilling his PC, waiting outside Awakura.
OK, it's fine.
It's not fine.
It's OK.
It's not fine at all.
It's not fine.
This fight is too scary for this.
And we still have a combat res.
Now it has been ranked once.
We're moving into the second set of rifts,
so you can see that's the tank rift in the middle there.
It's more uptime.
They've found a little optimization,
a little bit more uptime.
All good.
Now, what we're looking to see is one, obviously,
No deaths as they go into intermission, which in itself is extraordinarily hard with all these blaze lines piece of slices and the entire raid getting blaze at the end.
But also to see if they have pushed that damage a bit more because every percentage matters from the pole to the death here in order to finish that cross that finish line.
It's nice memes who gets caught with a double blaze there. That's really unfortunate.
He's the same he's gonna hunk in the middle of it because he's needed and that's he's needed during this phase because it's a
Tremendous amount of healing because this huge burst of damage is coming now
So back up they do have one combat rest available. Yeah to hold that though
We've used both our aunts I think right so we need to save that to make sure that we can bring now up after the tank buster
What's about 65 and a half? Yeah, they're getting better. Yeah, even more damage coming out
Here's the assassination which is oddly named considering
It's just those in nether portals going down and there is an ability where Kivesa
assassinates you I want to talk to the
blizzard devs about their naming
conventions after this I think not sure
you should call that a reaper
always edgy
that always edgy
yeah but I don't mind you being edgy
assassination is a good name for an
ability in this fight but maybe have it
as the name for the assassination
not for anything else
there'll be none of that
no absolutely not it's just throw the
names out of the source
what about edge slice
edge slice would be a good one
into Wolven Blades.
There was a leaked, there was a leaked champion.
Ultimate is called Nice.
Good dodging.
It's called Supreme Display of Talent,
which is a great thing to have the shark
five times in a game.
Surely it's STT.
No, we don't shorten things in League of Legends, man.
No.
And you say the whole thing.
Why?
Sounds cool.
Yeah, we're padding my word count.
Padding casting.
The more words, the better the cast.
Yeah, you got paper words.
Yep.
Don't give him my tears, please, don't give him my tears.
Yeah, that'd be dope. I'm in.
I'm watching.
You and I just yapping for 12 hours a day.
It's sort of like I thought it was that much, right?
Oh, they would...
Zazidown, Dice Room's down, Flex to follow, Swag's already fallen.
So it was clean-ish.
We had a new best of, as of end, 65.5% coming out of the...
Out of P1, out of Intermission 1, I guess,
but I'd like to see a reset in a moment.
We'll go back into this Intermission.
I know you might as well dance around this, see how far we can get through intermission
to. It's a little bit easier to position because there's no one in front of you in certain positions
now because everyone's dead, but you do get more blazes because the boss is going to put
out a set amount of blazes no matter how many people are still alive in the raid.
Yeah, I think that's something we stress to you guys is you might think, oh, there's
like less people up, so you've got more room for the blazes and things like that.
really so the boss is going to put out approximately like 50 blazes total and just because people die
the boss is still gonna put out 50 blazes total and it just keeps like slamming you and slamming
you and slamming you which is even worse in this fight obviously because if you dip below 10%
health you're gonna die so instead of getting hit with one blaze and then the healer's having
a little bit of time to top you back up it just hits you over and over again which means
the healers have to like spot you even more than normal instead of being able to use like
some more AoE healing to bring everybody up. So it's actually way, way worse. Everything about
this fight is designed that everybody must be alive at the end. That is the goal. And they have
gone out of their way to think of every single way to make sure that happens. And if you don't do
that, it gets just worse and worse and worse the whole way down. But the new best for today
would be one tank play for Echo first time we've seen in submission two and not bad for
the first hour of raiding or so. Yeah, pretty happy with where they are right now.
Surprised we're not having a being time break time, which is usually what happens after
to echo get a new...
Is it being a clock?
It's not being a clock, they're not taking a break.
I saw the eat feasts pop up on the screen.
I think they're just gonna go into another pool,
although this is a slightly elongated timer
between the two pools.
Well, Ryzen's up to something,
I like to do in the moods, a toilet trip.
Oh, he's changing something.
Oh, keyboard changes?
Was that just a laptop that Grim is holding?
Oh, is this Grim is posted?
Maybe, I saw Grim holding something,
but it may have been Grim's laptop
that he had on his hand there.
Do we have any news production on exactly what's happening?
They're not listening to us.
Yeah, well, they're checking that.
They'll do want to give shout out to display.
We've got, so we are after this, after the Nexus prints,
spider time, baby.
Spider time.
Spider time.
Get this, can you hold that for?
I can hold it.
You can hold that thing.
Do you not have walls at your house?
I do have walls, but some people don't.
Yeah, do you live it in a field?
I love fields.
Do you live in a field?
No problem.
Watch this.
Now, you can put your display on a stand.
Wanna put it on the windowsill and not a wall?
Slap it on! Easy!
You can put it on a stand.
Sack next to people you don't wanna talk to.
Look at that!
It's a great barrier.
Look at that!
Very Japanese styling.
Easy game!
You could actually build a whole wall out of them
if you so desired.
You can, you can flip them around,
put it the other way, so we've got display stands,
but of course, it's a wonderful display.
It's on a huge discount in the chat.
Slap it on, put it sideways, annoy people.
Maybe move the bottom thing
it actually sits on when you stack it on.
What you want to do is you want to get it like this so you can do three dimensional stuff.
Okay.
And then you can carry it like a sign out on the street.
This is the three dimensional stuff you're doing.
Want to tell people about spiders?
Ahoy sailor!
Do you know of Team Spider and what it can bring to you?
No, no spiders out at sea I'm afraid.
Tell me more about Team Spider.
Team Spider, stow away on board, eat your grain, we'll drink all your rum.
Spiders at sea!
Spiders that eat grain?
That sounds amazing!
I love big spiders.
Chunky spiders.
It's an absolute wallop of a fellow, isn't it?
Look at it!
Yes!
And he's cute!
Did he?
I think he got that girthy butt cheek!
Off!
I dropped it.
I will say, moving it around as much as Mike is moving it around,
perhaps not the most advisable way to use your display.
Errrr...
Don't listen to him!
Yep.
By doing this!
Listen to the girthy spiders!
Block him off!
I can't see anything on the right side of the room anymore!
What's happening over there?
What a mystery!
It's invisible to me!
jokes aside though if you don't own any walls or you do live in a field or perhaps in the back of
truck and you want to decorate it up you can do that with a new display stand but obviously
the displays are awesome loads of them we've got crab daddies we've got some really cool ones and
also you can use our code to get the actual official world of warcraft ones they've got
hallowfall they've got a really nice allieria one they've got a good one which is anduin
frau and allieria and jayno yeah so it works because of the things but we've got some very
cool ones. You have some personalized ones as well, don't you? I do. Yeah. Don't get those.
Not promoting them here because, you know, it's not my show. But I added in a little, you know,
I subtly promoted it for you. Then said, don't get it because I know chat will do the opposite of
anything we say. It's entirely true. But yes, big shout out to display. They've been a long
time sponsor with Echo. We're obviously having a bit of fun here, but this is really handy
if you want to actually put some designs on themselves. Also, yeah, if you're if you're
renting and they don't want you sticking things on the walls it is very minimally intrusive what
you have to do to put a display up you stick on a bit of metal and you can it's magnetic right so
you can just stick it on but some renters rental places don't like you doing that so you can just
buy a stand a little metal thing and move it around and of course the main advantage is as
always you can swap them yeah that's the point so if you like you like a few of them and you
want to change up your design or whatever oh apparently this is what them that's my left
by the way Sam but we can you are never reaching that far yeah yeah the best
thing is I do it all the time is you are able to you're ready to do this
okay all right so it's like hey the ladies are coming over I'm gonna put out
my spiders rule oh no what happening now well I've decided that I want to see
Scenic Vista, so I'm gonna switch in my City of Echoes!
You have to hold it obviously.
I'm on it, I'm on it.
City of Dreads!
Oh my God!
You know what's happening?
I've just suddenly become a weeb!
This one, etched by the way.
Oh it's the texture!
It's the texture style.
It's actually got texture to it.
Can you see it?
Look at my noodles.
Behold.
Well, that's something we do in private.
Reach.
Wow, yes.
Behold my noodles.
Ah, delicious.
But then what happened?
I've got scuba diving!
Oh god!
Crabs!
Crabs are there too!
Feed the crabs but then suddenly my mother appeared and I didn't want to explain why I have a picture of crabs on!
And here's the portraits of her!
This one!
And this is my sad dab but then my friend was coming over and he's that guy who's always, always winning Mortal Kombat so I told him to...
Get ducked!
Yep!
Right, had to do that but then of course I was enjoying the war with him and I felt like hanging a nice lovely session.
Aww!
What the point is there? You can swap them to whatever you want.
Yeah, you can swap them over there and there's some very cool ones.
Ah, it's Moody Anduin.
It's Moody Anduin. He has a nose job apparently in this photo.
Checking. Can't confirm.
But it is Moody Anduin before it becomes Rockstar Anduin.
That's a very cool one too.
Oh no, it's production.
Oh no, it's production.
Whenever we just take a look.
Try and sell products.
Please sell. Sell the products guys.
Please.
Just throw them around the floor.
Yes, remind them of how good our products good.
So, exclam display.
That means the side is the highest discount possible on the entire website.
There we go.
Guys, legitimately, this is fine.
It is fine.
This is fine.
Code Echo.
Do you want to check the, um, do you want to check his lose across?
Yes.
Code Echo is the play.
Also, like, think about it.
Look at the storage for this, right?
I know, I know we've just, we've, you know, shield these a little bit, but they
are very good products.
Imagine if I tried to store 10 posters in my home.
Mm-hmm.
There's, it's going to take up so much more room than this.
Now they do have a little bit of weight to them, but if they're just on the
I use a plastic box.
Oh, interesting.
It's very nice.
To protect your grain or just for keeping these in?
Well, both.
Oh, makes sense.
I don't understand why anything should have one purpose.
Yeah.
Mix it.
Such as this.
Multi-peck, it could be used as a weapon if you want to, it's a weapon.
It's the way you were holding that.
That's enough of that segment.
Let's move on to pulls.
No pulls happening.
No pulls happening.
I'm gonna put these under here so we can use them again in the future, which is the power of this plate
Yeah, you can hide this somewhere or I see that's what I'm saying. Yeah, multi-purpose every step
Area you can hide that and we'll be getting back into pause in a moment's time
We hope I don't know if there was a specific reason behind this break, but there often isn't we just uh
Yeah, I just take breaks. I'll grimace. Oh, that's what happened before the
Fever dream that we had Grim was chatting to Rice and I assume he may be a week
over thing or just you know prepping something always broke
right since he could have broken his keyboard
probably not using the Corsair K70 then I'm not sure what he's using actually
but if I think he is using the Corsair K70 well then it is user ever I'm sure
it is yeah 100% probably using some Bismarck setup that he's done there
because he's always so stoic in his gameplay every single time he's he
He never reacts to anything unless you call him out for having an FPS POV, which I did
at dinner and suddenly he stared at me like he was going to kill me.
I was like, you do, you play with the camera near the floor, man, like we can't see anything.
He's like, it's the best way of doing it.
I'm like, I'm not saying it's not, I'm just saying I'm not watching it.
If you don't need to target your heels, all you have to do is dodge the swirlies.
It's the important thing.
Look at this balanced comp looking at here, probably getting ready for silkencourt,
right?
Yeah.
It's going to be the quadruple.
12 boonkins.
A Guardian druid and three restos.
He's flexing in the background next to Cannex there.
That didn't say anything.
Someone was hulking up.
I saw it.
Can we rewind?
Have we got a replay?
Do we have an action replay of that play, please?
No, just...
Oh my God, guys.
Oh, I can't believe production said that.
They have removed Cannex from the replay functionality
because he's so turbo bin.
Yeah.
I feel very sorry for him.
We will remember you, Cannex.
We will remember you, but Kha'Nix have been taken off the replay functionality
in favour of...
Who do we add on?
We know.
I'm hopeful.
Probably add it on hopeful.
Replaced by a trial.
Yeah.
By a trial, Kha'Nix.
By a trial.
Is that a scratch?
How low you've fallen, Kha'Nix.
You rose so high, you flew too close to the sun and now look at you.
But burnt chicken.
You might as well be tofu.
I mean, there was a good track record of things with wings flying too close to the sun and
getting burnt.
Historically, bad idea.
Yeah.
Historically.
I mean, Corus and Daedalus are looking down and Eucannix wondering why you did that.
Haedie's character's nice.
That's definitely where that comes from.
Daedalus is in Haedies.
Yeah, he is.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
Quite so much.
I think he's in Haedies 2.
Oh, yeah, he is when you get on the bird.
I haven't played a huge amount of Haedies 2 because...
I'm waiting for a full release correct. That is the play back that series though super giant really cooked
That series absolutely
Best games ever and soundtracks all time
Is top tier soundtracks and character design? You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah the dog
Cerberus
Yeah, and boldy. I love boldy
There was a strat for a while in speedrunning, because for a while we did mostly IGT, so in-game timer, right?
And it pauses when you go into story rooms.
There was min-maxing to the point where, depending on what gift you got from Baldi, you would finish the run or not.
Because you could get increased cast damage.
So some of them are like the ambivalence bonus, which is nothing.
But you can get increased cast damage, and it's like, oh, 8%.
This is enough for me to push the run into a next layer.
And it will give me like three seconds at the end.
Someone got a full heat drop.
That was so impressive.
Well you know what else would be impressive to run through?
This rogers treasure trove giveaway.
It has been opened up.
You can vote with your channel points.
I'm pretty sure we've already broken the overlay.
Maybe we broke it yesterday.
We broke it twice yesterday.
Send it to people.
So this is your channel points.
They are worth nothing other than getting into rogers pants
and finding what treasures lurk within.
So send your channel points that you've just been
You've just been earning by being here and watching along with echo
You'll see in the corner if you just send them a hit two million
We have so many stacks of gifts to give away to you everything from mythic raid carry by echo
Which will give you a mount as well. You'll get the juicy goodness pets keyboards mice headsets
Displaced merch Elgato products. We gave away some stream decks the other day
It's very impressive and I think people will go for crabs today
I want to know how much it cost to have these envelopes printed because they're classy
They are very cool actually can I can we find out Sam because I have to have my wedding envelopes printed soon
And I think a team crab and the team spider on the gauge. Yeah
I'm getting married in May to a person to a person. Yeah, I was surprised as well
Yeah, I thought I was gonna have to you know go down some other routes for that
But we're not in Denmark so I can't get married to a horse. Are you getting?
Are you having entrance music?
I'm thinking about it at the moment. I had pantera as well. Yeah, I came out like a wrestler
I was thinking I want the LEC back. Yeah, which is a classic, but also
I'm not sure I really want to come out to a song based around my work, you know, it's a little bit
It's fine, you know, right in the room. It's a little epic
Okay
Do do do do.
Death.
You know, you can come in standing the back and just say death in the background as I
go up to get married.
Are you gonna do standard suit and, suit the booty?
Yeah.
Pastel green suit, sage is the idea with the lilac or lavender.
Sage and lavender are colours.
Yes.
Are our colours.
Are our, are our, are our, are our.
I trust it ours.
Our colours.
It's a tie.
It's R.
They are R colors.
Hour.
No, it's not hour.
That's hour.
No.
See, exactly.
You can choose where the mistake is made.
Is it between hour and hour?
R and R.
Okay, the tracker is full beans.
Yeah, it's doomed.
This is full canyx.
It's done.
We've hit two million.
Two million.
Oh, wait.
So the number is correct.
The number is correct.
The purple is not correct in any way, shape or form.
Can we change that to orange?
Look, I have heard that is a perfectly adequate tracker, okay?
That tracker has no issues at all, that is a normal length for a tracker to be in this situation, Mike.
That's what my fiance tells me.
Yeah, trust us, somebody's recently gone to extension development. This is pretty good.
Is that one of those spam emails you get?
Can we help you with your extension development? Feeling it adequate on the Twitch?
Yeah, anything I've asked it looked like this.
It's like, yeah, I mean, it's working.
Yeah, the number read good.
There we are, two million achieved.
Congratulations, chat.
You can now vote in the poll for either Team Crab
or Team Spider, and whoever wins that poll
will be selected from on the envelopes behind us.
You don't need to type anything in chat.
In fact, it's probably in emote mode
because you degenerates cannot control yourselves.
That is, I mean, a little better.
I mean triple, we get paid to do it, they're just watching.
They don't give us keyboards.
We have to sit here with hands like this.
We're not allowed to play with the buttons.
The crabs are winning!
Yes!
Oh, that is the first time I've seen a crab victory
at Rodgers Treasure Trolls.
Well played team.
So it's not there yet.
The crabs are gonna win.
Evolutionarily, crabs are superior.
Crab's are freaky awful creatures.
Yes, but they've developed
from like three different evolutionary trees totally independently it's called
castanization everything reverts to crab humans eventually will like to become
crabs yeah we get armor then yeah you get an exoskeleton you know you know
just scuttle around and then we okay and then we start to sound like
I missed my boy the crabs have patapulps
I don't know what it is, spiders have them, they're the little, I think they're called
patapulps, the little mandible things where they like, oh the nomas, the side nomas, but
I think spiders have them as well, they're just like tiny little patapulps, they're tasty
I know that.
What the crap?
Oh, crabs.
Yeah.
I'm not a part of the muncher, but...
Garlic butter?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
All right, you've come to your happy place.
Well, I need Julia to step up.
Yeah, come on.
Crap.
Where's my butter crab?
Come on, Julia.
Jesus.
There's a rave just across the way now.
Go and get us some crab in the middle of Cologne.
I'm sure that will be very fresh.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tasty, yeah.
Mm, delicious.
Oh, they have prawns yesterday, apparently.
I didn't have them.
Yeah, you were out, were you?
I was out.
Pawns and quinoa.
Yeah.
Are we closing?
Are we crabbing it production?
We are crabbing it.
We're crabbing it.
Well, I will fan, as most people do when they meet you,
haha, and then you can, you can select the envelope.
Is it two or one?
Envelope.
We are ruining the English language today.
Envelope?
Envelope, you said.
I did say envelope.
It's one.
Okay, there we are.
Crack it open.
Trust guys, I will never let you down. This is gonna be a good one. Make sure your switch DMs are open by the way
Oh, we can't get you. Oh easy game
Mega mouse pad. Oh, let's go. Yeah, I know your mouse pads are high scuff. I've seen some pictures
I think you might have enjoyed it when you handed it to me. Thanks. I thought we were doing it together
Take the photo I behold the xxl mouse pad yet to do the awkward smile and thumbs up or something
to eSports post. I think we do have a couple of the maps pads off towards the left of your
right. This is going to get real weird. Are you ready? Yeah. This is so big. Yeah, I love
it. I love it. Exclamation mark crab in the chat to enter. You only need to vote once.
I only need to type it in once. If you type it in more than once, there is a possibility
you will be auto timed out by the mod of Kate. Yeah. I think that's the quad
XL one can I have news from production with how big the like is the aquatic cell
which is the xxl that's the 4xl okay so those two of the 4xls that you have on
right now the spider one is the xxl so this is the size that you will be
winning ah oh we're the traveler I see you've had a harsh journey through the
the forests of I have travelled through the world of mouse pads to bring you the
greatness are you a mouse yourself it's I am indeed the mouse traveler but here we
go off that's the xx-o one finally skinned mouse for this pad it's great
mouse skin as well some of the highest quality you'll find genuine purple up
I don't know if spiders have fur, but we can go with that.
It is super high quality.
It is very high quality, very smooth.
I really like stitching on the sides of my mouse pad.
Oh yes, every one of the mouse pads we have is stitched up.
But that's what you've won, my friend.
I'm sure you touched the ends open and getting out of Team Spider.
Of course, you can pick these up.
And if you do want a quad mouse mat that you can use not only as a cape to become
the superhero that you always were, the superhero of Krabs, but also of Hobbius,
especially if you are doing some big hobby stuff these mouse pads so I use them for these mega ones are really really good and also
service a skirt plus cape combo if you're playing magic gathering and you don't want to have four separate play mats two of these
opposite sides of the table nice and easy
Mm-hmm, super good slip really useful for any hobby crafts that you're doing to protect your services
And the non-slip action is really good and you can just cover your whole desk in one as well if you want to yeah
You can yeah, which is really nice because you have infinite mouse pass anything can move anywhere with the wireless keyboards wireless mouse
Very easy to position wherever you want
I like this one can we get the sex and music please guys
You're a serenade
You know that right what you dancing to your wedding we haven't chosen yet
Ah, tricky.
But also my fiance doesn't really,
neither of us are big dancers, to be honest.
But I think you have to have at least 30 seconds
of you dancing to something.
You know, this was my, our take at our wedding is,
it's our wedding.
That's true.
That's true.
Yeah, really, that's how we took it, it was good.
So we, everybody who uses the big dinner,
we took everyone to the Indian,
we booked out the Indian restaurant.
Everybody had a curry and it was amazing.
That does actually sound really good.
Hey, it was awesome.
It was like so good, instead of it being like...
Nah, that would've been cool, it was incredible.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There was nothing wrong with that, but it wasn't us.
It's just the start.
Yeah, it wasn't us.
It's like, that's not what we want for our wedding.
We had a big picture with like shotguns and stuff.
Yeah.
We were seeing super troopers.
Mm-hmm.
Where they like, spread it on!
So, we had that with all the best men.
That's right.
And then like, we had entrance music,
and then we went for a curry.
Nice.
Yeah, it was a good old day.
Yeah.
Yeah, like it.
I'm trying to plan to have a Magic the Gathering Zone,
where we can just play some magic together in the reception.
And then I wanted my fiance to go into pottery.
So I wanted to have a pottery wheel.
And she told me, I think it would be super sick,
but apparently it gets really messy.
Right, but you've got apron,
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
And let people know if you want to do it, get changed.
Like, I am not interested in everybody
being in an uncomfortable suit all day.
Exactly.
I don't care if it's short for pictures, whatever,
but like after just go and put your shorts
and tee shorts, it's gonna be a good night.
Let's just eat some food together,
have some drinks together, enjoy the night.
Congratulations anyway.
Thank you.
It should be very nice.
Great for taxes.
It's literally just a financial scheme.
No, I love you, QD.
Please don't be listening to this.
It's all a real estate scam.
And on that bombshell, maybe we should
listen in with Wave for a couple of minutes
as I get another coffee.
Nope.
I mean it's gonna be in same quality of course give me a sec this screenshot here
And this is half way through the suck yeah
Release your stasis earlier though. We're like late on
This is exactly when the dagger guys come in again, I just help what the damn myself
This is what I'm talking to you. I can do it all before.
Next.
Oh, I was watching you.
What was that?
Looks like you've released the Stasis like a second after the lift ended.
Questions if you can reach it a little bit earlier.
Should we not die during the lift?
I hear Mastin here, under my necks. Over here, near the airport, so obviously.
Don't forget what you can blast when you're blasting.
I will fight.
Banana's force respected.
This is actually such a cheat code having FPS, what the fuck?
Oh, wrong one? Okay.
Did it make it?
Perfect.
Not perfect.
Excellent guys.
Excellent.
Now I can send up to 30 minutes.
Now the zemplary minus 30 is ready, you guys.
It's so fucking beautiful.
It's not a banana, it's a good code word, I think it's a little bit sideways I think.
It has ruined my one hour no death streak.
Pay up now.
I didn't die.
It ruined your 100% email my streak as well.
That's fair.
100% email my streak.
No, it's obviously the other pun on it.
Have you seen his people?
Yeah, I see it.
You told me to
What? You sneaked into my DMs
No way
No way
This is the same
All nations are the same
So why did Cush just randomly kidnish at me?
I didn't do anything
Fucker, fucker, fucker
Fuck me
All these other things
I'm gonna leak DMs
Hey
Yeah
I mean isn't the auction is using whatever the tool and just looking at what's best
Just do whatever is best
It's really
Everyone dies differently, and then there's the other two
Yes
Just go bro!
Call us we're committed
Yeah you need to work 45 now
What happened there?
I need a minute from 5 seconds to now
Where did you pop from this?
Minimum 5
We're going without
Pull 60 now
I mean I just popped evil
No it won't be ready then yeah
No we need another pull 60 now
Yeah, another ball 60 now.
Ah, I'm not...
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But 55, 55.
Okay, you saved those five seconds.
You'd get Merus back in for...
...the month.
That's fine.
Merus doing the big sleep.
Can't...
Actually we can rotate Merus,
because in practice I can take a nap,
lunch nap.
Yeah, the big sleep that we all got.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
Yeah, I mean, if I think that
He's blasting currently
Probably good idea to look
I'll frag the walkie-talkie and not so sure about that guy
Yeah, he's buffing the rogues, that's why he's down at the bottom
The rogues? There's one guy in here
I don't know, don't hear what you guys are saying
We're pulling
They just removed Orca, I can't track this anymore
I see a ratman, it's going in already
Can I dangerous a close guy?
I'll probably take a sign in the walk
Walking in by mistake
We're pulling
60 seconds feeding in all the ass, amazing.
Anana, I respect you.
I've always been in Joppa, so I get more damage.
Nice.
So, thanks.
One could say I'm actually a pucker beauty.
Why is the tech reminder like freaking out?
I don't know, why?
Don't skit some mud on anyone else.
Five going extra out.
Remember, we're going extra out, yeah?
Yeah, work marker charges coming.
Get a work marker.
Have it to be?
Initial?
Watching the daggers and moving out.
There's no Aang totem guys.
No Aang totem.
Let's him quick, let's him quick, let's him quick.
We can play.
Alright.
I did play.
No.
It's fine, it's fine.
It's fine, it's fine.
It's fine, it's fine.
It doesn't matter man.
Just walk against it a bit maybe.
I don't even need to.
Alright.
In the end maybe, in the end.
Middle charges coming.
Middle charges.
We're in the middle.
We're watching the middle.
Watching your feet again and moving out, and then watch the orbs.
Roger, be a real team. Break.
I'm going to be too explicit.
Fucking base positions.
Are we everyone now?
Remember the Zephyr sound.
They're coming.
3, 2, 1, chat.
Perfect.
We got it.
We will need the bubble tone and now you'll need to take the...
Yeah, I've got the Angtorm coming.
Yeah, okay. Nice means we'll do it.
We'll have the Angtorm or what?
Yeah. I don't know where we could use it.
Banana?
They wouldn't be ready here, would they?
it's fine ignore what happened number two go out soon live life going far fine keep
going nice means you're ready to bubble time yeah yes the what mark is guys
and tigers moving out they love for this after the fourth you reset they live
here so we don't reset and middle charges coming
middle ones watch it watching feet and moving out I receive a gun after the
roofs I guess I think if you roll taunt strike you can do it maybe
yeah
we can play this we play this we play this
okay we see another good pull from echo a little bit cleaner going into p2 but a
few mistakes made in that second phase means that everyone will end up wiping
but it's much more consistent than we were seeing at the start of the day
yeah it's a super new best pull for today with the new one-tank strategy
That's what they need more and more. They need to keep chipping away the princesses HP
Not too bad. We obviously can't really get a DPS gauge over with so many dead
We're not going to get an accurate one. We will keep our people's out. We're looking for 66
65 coming out of phase one with all alive and everything ready to go
But if they're doing that we know they're in a good place
So we're keeping our people's on that and then we'll move to phase two phase three
But we are a god pull territory ladies and gentlemen
That's what we're looking for is that we need the stars to align a little bit as to both guilds in order to bring this bad boy down
I can see liquidate
263 attempts at the Nexus princess and this boss has pushed them in every possible direction
It really has the changes to strategy changes to comp
Seeing the Vantus runes coming out from both the guilds as well
They know that this is the hurdle to overcome on this first reset of
of Mythic here for the Narubar Palace tier. The question is, will we see Echo overcome
it today? Because as you say, we are in Godpool Territory. We're in a 10% jump territory. We're
possibly even in a 20% jump and kill territory if everyone stays alive with the addition
of that extra DPS and the removal of a tank. It is just that challenge. It's just that
hurdle of making sure everyone is alive. And that's a very tricky thing to do.
Super hard like everything about this mean is a word I keep going back to but when you really consider how these mechanics works
It is mean. Yeah, it is mean is nasty
It is unforgiving in every single aspect of it is certainly even the first gauge
I mean if you think back to just three days ago when they took one look at the HP
They obviously they checked brood swester and then they checked this and both guilds just looked so no
And there's just moved on to Bruteswester immediately without thought like I mean I think many people including ourselves thought well
That HP is clearly like a placeholder or something. Yeah, and Blizzard doesn't even give them really a
Choice of where to go which we actually thought was a little like silly is like okay
We're supposed to have a choice of which boss to go for here, but realistically they haven't
Actually, they did they just didn't realize it at the time. It's like no
No, you totally can because this is gonna be about this
It's only been nerfed with a slight HP from its original 777 values now 75 in the billions that is of HP
They did buff it at one point and then redid the math over a buzz of HQ in Anaheim and then came back with this
So that yep, you can do it and they are right like we do know this fight is do a bull
It is just gonna push these guys to the absolute limits
which is wiki, wacky considering that we still have two more bosses to go and from all accounts when we came into this race
One thing we knew was Siliconcourt was going to be the living nightmare. Oh
Unfortunately for nice means of tripping below. I do I give a shout out though
They are doing some splits and all gracks splits
So if you sat there and you've not done your all gracks yet to check echo in the group finder
They're looking for bodies to join them in that adventure. I'm not sure who it's for it might be
Oh, it's from Mires
Yeah, that's a tank drinker I think from all tracks that can drop so it seems like that is what mirrors is looking for currently fighting and
Surek is this all he's doing the story mode. I think can we just jump like between poles? Can we quickly jump to Merseys point of view?
Can we jump to mirrors? I think he's doing story mode. I mean I this is okay
I did story mode yesterday. I think you did it as well. Yep. I'm a little sad
You didn't get to go and jump on the platforms. I think a lot of
a lot of casual players who don't have any intention of raiding this is a wonderful addition to the game for the people
Like I just hate playing with other players and would have liked to have done the jumping to the platforms
And that doesn't happen
Unfortunately, you do you do just stand here and the I don't think you can die
Yeah, it seems very difficult because you can basically get hit by everything and not really take a huge
Yeah, I think you have to jump off the platform yourself
You'd have to like run to the very edge and leap off to die in this which is fine
It's not supposed to be for that so you can get the cutscene or you can get your quest complete
You do get a spark from doing it. Yeah, you get some 619 619 craft a bit of gear. So you get the enchanted
Crest account it's trying to ruin to crest I think which means you can craft a bit of 619 gear
Very powerful very good for this point of the expansion if you aren't a mid-level raider
I use it on my staff on my preservoker and it gave me a nice little jump
in terms of HPS.
Sure, I haven't done my crafting yet.
Every time I sit down to do it, there's something else to do.
It is also a very convoluted process.
Oh!
You want a specific craft done, you want to make sure it's highest tier it can be,
you want to get certain enchants on it, you want to get certain embellishments on it.
There's a lot you have to do to make sure you are crafting something effectively.
Find someone in the general tract as well who has incantation
or whatever you need for the specific weapon or bit of gear you're crafting.
So pretty convoluted, very expensive as well.
I think I spent about 100k on the Mets for mine so...
There was a concerted effort during Dragonflight to make crafting a side game.
I think they've kind of achieved that, it's like the people who know how it works and are very invested in it.
They are playing their own game, this whole crafting game they're playing that.
It's just the... I think they've probably overdone it a little bit with the guys who are like, I just want a weapon.
I just want to put up on the thing, you tell me how much it costs and then I get the weapon.
Exactly, yeah, that's kind of I'm personally more of a preference of like a specific weapon is the one you get crafted
Which would be more TBC era with stup storm herald and things like that
That is the weapon you want to get it's easy enough for the the community to be like, okay
You want this you want that without all the extra stuff
So there's probably more tweaking to be done there to make it a little bit more approachable
I think I've seen a lot of threads from people who've come back for the war within Chris Metzen
Coming on to that stage at BlizzCon and saying it's time to come home
We are working and we're doing things. We're doing this new thing the world soul saga and the next six years
Are very bright for World of Warcraft and so far off to a great and stellar start
We've come back and like okay, so I've heard crafting is good. It's like yeah, it is good. You got really powerful gear from it
It's awesome. It's got all these cool little twists and enchants on it. Okay. How do I do it?
I had someone walk me through it
I had an old gildy literally just get on comms with me like just tell me what to do
Yeah, Mitch was standing behind me the entire time and every time I was like, are you sure this is who I should send the private order to?
Are you sure this is how much I should be paying? Is this what I need to buy?
It's a P.O.E. though. I go, this is no...
Oh, yeah, I'm just saying like...
This is no...
I'm P.O.E though. I just farm Chaos and then I get someone else to farm it for me.
Yeah, I just trade up.
Yeah, good trade league all day.
I've got a concerted effort at some point, so you get in there and like, I just want to craft an item.
Like that I'm happy with at a certain point.
But it's like okay, so do you delve and get the fossils and then we come back and harvest this
And then we need a block of bombs to make sure we get the right link
But we need the like wall odds influenced yeah in order to make this happen and this 900 systems, but P2 is coming
So I'm gonna be fresh and tasty good looking forward to that as well. I'm looking forward to seeing echo pull
This boss and kill it. Yeah. All right. This would be dream
It's the dream that would put echo in such high spirits and in a good place
I imagine Liquid have stopped for the years. It's very late there
It this is one of those moments that we talk about in the race
When we're it when we're here in person like this is the day
Mm-hmm, I mean if they don't kill it. It's fine, right?
There's no issue if they don't kill it today
But this is the day where they can just put a huge wedge
Into the race and take that lead that they chase from day one. It's not gonna be this pull
Yeah, it doesn't look like it.
I mean, hopefully, Sam, we do have a combat res.
Robin, obviously, using a lot of those through this battle
because we are single tanking it.
So, looks like we're not going to bring up hopeful,
but maybe just looking for a progression pull as well.
We are still sitting at 20%, and anything below that
will be very good for the Raiders this early in the morning.
Yeah, I mean, the best thing that can happen now
is that they make it to enrage again.
Yep.
That would be the best outcome they could possibly hope for
in the next few pulls is that they actually make it to enrage
rage and like that's everything again they have done it before obviously but with a new
setup it's one tank strat if they can make it to the end with robin exactly where he needs
to be the healer's sorted they will get a nice boost of confidence is like okay we can do
it right even though they know they can do it until you actually physically cross that
line you don't have that feeling of sending it like okay let's get vicious let's get
nasty dps is still relatively on point though even with two dead coming through that phase
66% HP so they'll be looking to get that and you can just listen to scribe then as we were on our little break there
He was saying like okay, it's fine like we'll just swap some cooldowns around
It's not ideal, but we're still gonna keep going because we want that confidence booster for the raid that we're all set
This works. Let's do it. Also testing of the week or all right
We saw that bugging out a few times at the start of the day or being mismanaged
to say perhaps but it seems to be working here we'll see the positioning of these
Nether Phantoms, we want to get two of those death masks basically the red
outline on the Phantoms implies that it has a buff to give to Kvesa you want to
get two of those through on the second phase if three go through in a very
short period of time about 12 seconds Kvesa will be buffed by 30% damage for
the rest of the fight so you go to and then you go to on this phase on
the last phase you have to go 2 and 3 but you reduce the amount of time that she is completely
buffed for throughout the course of the battle.
This is great actually, they're doing pretty well right now so we're...
Well they're all going to die, you said it.
Yep.
Oh they are definitely all going to die, that's fine but like in terms of how they're
playing, this is nice.
Oh yeah, there's another one.
Well Velo just ticked below 10% there, which means Mark the Death was coming in.
They're not going to have the healer now for the intermission which is starting
the second, second intermission, but we are seeing second intermission more and more as
the time ticks on here in Cologne and they're moving forward, here we go, entering, if they
get through this, which is a real if without, without Velo alive, because that's a huge
amount of HPS that's lost, then we will be looking at the final, the final portal phase
that needs to be dealt with before the actual enrage hits. So we're going to try
and hold together here, this is going to be everybody to send every personal, every
Hellstone you have left get through this because we want to see the end of the fight
It's gonna be really tricky as well
You can see bellows still near the top of the meters second in healing done after being dead for basically an entire phase
Clicks paid the price. Yes. I'm one healer left. There's the ankh coming back clicks
There's no damage coming out right now
Doesn't last forever if you stick around in that low HP you are gonna be in trouble. So this is the final stage of the fights
until the actual negative submission. Now pay attention to what actually happens here guys,
assuming they don't wipe shortly, is this is where the boss has five stacks of shroud to get rid of.
So this is where he gets very, very, very mean because not only are they going to get rid of two
in the charges that are coming up in a second, the next one they have to send three. You can
see nearly every single ad is marked in red. They are all red marked, which means they're
all the nasty death mask ones. Now there's the two, you see the two stacks on the boss,
the next one is going to be all three and that means that 20% damage buff that you can see on
the boss there is going to change to 30 because it's three stacks and it's going to be permanent
and it's not going to be good. It's going to be difficult to have to run against it,
looks like everyone is able to just stay out of it. It's basically a one shot if you get
pulled into those rifts, I think you can survive for a very short period of time.
Yeah, Robin's dead though, unfortunately.
Robin's dead, as you say, everything's just charging all over the place, and we are looking for a reset, maybe?
Maybe, or we're about to see the work.
There's the death masks.
Yeah, you're going to see what happens if you don't clear the shit. They've reset it, okay.
You're about to see it. What, a new best?
Yeah, for today.
For today.
Yeah.
Just to put up a spatter for today.
For today.
For today.
More consistently getting to that second phase, which is really important.
important more consistently getting towards the end of it as well with more people alive.
The strategy of Unking now or Robin, as we have been calling him, which is his name, seems
to be working. It's just about finding those little movement changes, those little positioning
changes to allow people to survive through the first couple of phases so that we can
invest so many resources in making sure we bring it back now.
a story Robin's had right so Robin obviously with a great history as
world first not only with Echo many of them but also with Liquid played for
them as a tank for a long time he's played in the world first scene for ages
and then retired away he was like you know I'm kind of done I'm gonna sunset
myself and relax and focus on my mythic plus an FBI team and do all those
things and then of course Andy replaced him and then some issues coming into
this tier and then the bat signal went out it's like and Robin's like okay
You're pulling me back in, you know, like, oh I'm like, it just won't let me go, all right.
And then he arrives, and now he's solo-tucking.
Yep, the hardest boss of the raid so far.
There you go now, it's fine.
That's what the Guardian did, which is like, the one he didn't really want to play.
And he's like, dude, what the hell, bro?
I've now ended up here on my own, and Miraz is off doing story books.
Just hard chilling.
nothing Mirrors is just totally about to chill it so relaxing right now a cushions very intently staring at something on a
second monitor with nice memes there as well I mean it's a melee meme they're probably laughing at a caster
look at this idiot he doesn't even need to stay in melee from lasers
put a moron there it's so easy right but I see maybe kush killed nice memes there
I mean maybe with an overlap or something it's very tricky in melee there to keep everyone alive
So many diagonals coming out. So if I was to judge the faces nice means is laughing at infrascruiting over cushions defending himself
Yeah, I was like no
It wasn't my fault you see I had to move here because there was another blaze coming across the side, you know
I should I do I don't know man. Like what do you want me to do?
You didn't anticipate me dashing to that exact position at that point. That's kind of on you nice means
Yeah, I'm gonna shut us down. You know that I'm actually using you as an anchor like that's what's gonna happen, bro
like don't blame me
perfect so looking on in
despair desperately wants to get in here performed admirably well but what a
testament this raid has been so far to the strength of echoes roster I mean in
what world ladies and gentlemen are you benching perfecto mere s wolf disco in
what world is your raid team like benching those players and saying we
don't want you on Prague right like right now of course they do want
everybody in the roster is ridiculously strong for echo right now but no
those are the players that are not even in. Yeah and part of that obviously is
compositional right now if you're playing one tank one of now all matters has to
sit out and it's now who has the Guardian Druid fully stacked up alongside that
we want double warriors so Perfecto has to take a seat we were running double
rogues yesterday for a little bit on this boss but the rallying cry to
powerful I think it's called rallying. Too powerful for Echo in this battle
we are getting ready it seems ready checks have gone out with Thana
waiting a second now we see the ticker go green on the red frames hopefully
another pull is in the off-in it is any pull could be a massive jump I think
you're right we're gonna see just an enormous jump in HP of the boss going
down they'll get that pull where one and two are clean and then they'll just
slam boss in phase three that's likely to see what happens next again they
are looking to hit that in rage again so I wouldn't be surprised at all that
in the next hour, hour and a half or so, as we see that 20%,
just suddenly drop by like 10 or maybe more percent
down to where they need to be.
Cause they're just getting comfy and comfy.
And this fight involves so many micro management
of tools and position from the whole way through.
10 seconds going in, we want to see them blast.
Blasting layout though, the DP,
one of the most important aspects of this
that Scrape and Roger will be reminding of is DPS
do not let us down.
I don't care if this takes another 100 pulls,
I need you at peak performance.
and you should be every single pull looking for ways of increasing your damage.
Every single pull. And we've seen that.
The first four pulls are coming out like 67,
and now they're coming out like 65 with, you know, a couple of people dead.
We haven't actually, I don't think we've seen,
since they optimised a bit more, Medic,
I don't think we've seen them do a perfectly clean exit out of the first intermission.
No, I think we're usually getting one death out of the first intermission,
but that's cleaner than it was when we were getting four deaths in the first phase, right?
So, it's those incremental improvements that we expect that we hope to see from Echo today.
You say the next hour, I think this is the pull.
I think we're going to see a drop down by 5% on this pull.
Now dying, expect it.
Bringing back with the Unk Healing Mup, make sure he's not underneath that 10% threshold
for the Reaper Dodge.
The dagger's easy.
E...
Oh, okay, Swag, you let me down, mate.
You let me down.
Probably got hit by a Queen's Bane.
Can never play by play phase one because it's got to be a nightmare. Yeah, but I was I was really hoping we could
Accelerate through the whole thing, you know, and then at the end is both of us just screaming at the screen
Oh God if I burn out on casting on the six boss, we are in big trouble for what comes after yeah
I'm leaving so I can burn out by you know Friday morning, and then I just have to cast worlds and that's fine
How do you I'm really curious? I know this isn't relevant to this poor way where the deaths are really we're not gonna see too much
And we'll jump back in if we get below 40% or so.
Yeah, here's how different it's been to seeing these epic finals that you're used to in League of Legends
where it's kind of got a time period, you know the score, the game is evolving very quickly, there's no wipe go again.
How has it been different for you here from your excessive casting experience?
Yeah, I think it's a very different vibe, much more podcasty, much more willing just to talk about random ship for like 30 minutes and then come into a fight.
Right, sometimes you talk to a whole pool and nothing happens, you just keep talking about whatever you're talking about.
The intensity is, it's interesting to say that it's more focused because League has a huge amount of focused intense moments
but you're kind of spreading your intensity out of a 30 minute period
whereas here the intensity jump from we're talking about lasagna to the boss is dying is within 10 seconds
where you really have to turn on. So I haven't had too many of those pure intense moments
we had a couple of pools yesterday on this that had got up to, you know, we had a 30% pool
you build it up a little bit, but I haven't hit the peak that I would in League,
and I'm quite enjoying how relaxed you can feel the rest of the time, so...
Yeah, I think it's important to... we always try and tell casters when we come in, it's like, don't...
don't know when to go, when not to, because it can become exhausting, not only for us, but for
the audience as well. Yeah, it's like, okay, they're going into fight 2, you know, it's like,
it's too much, we're gonna be here for 100 pulls, like, we get excited. In fact, some of the bosses
I might that's like oh
Like frack we couldn't get excited about potentially killing it's a 3% yeah
There was no way we were like we got a state chill
We're gonna relax because that boss can kill you in a matter of moments even at 3%
It's the final blazes that came out because they were so much worse than these ones. These are bad
But like the blazes there was so much worse
Especially with the orb carriers one of them died. It just instantly wiped the raid. Don't worry guys
That's coming up in Silicon Court. Yeah, we will be seeing that immediate raid-wide angle coming up, but yeah, it's it can be
You got a controlled process. Yeah, I think if I if this was five years ago
I would not be the controlled one on the desk. I'd be all over the place
I used to be a lot more hyper all the time for everything, but
Experience comes and pays dividends. It seems and something else that's paid dividends is peri
T W entering the giveaway because they managed to win the mouse pad. Oh, congratulations. Perry underscore T
W have a message in your twitch DMs
So make sure you are replying to that
Rogers Trevor treasure trove has well and truly been looted this morning and
It's great to give away free stuff. Gotta be honest always feels good
Hey, if we're here emptying Rogers pockets, you should be here emptying Rogers pockets
Otherwise we are legit taking a lot these prizes home with us
Yeah, I mean the thing is if you have the envelope and a bit of paper that's a legally binding contractor here
I'm just gonna take all of them at the end
I actually have a few saved underneath my desk that Sam doesn't know about so that's true. We could just yank these
All right, I need to get some bots in the chat
They're just entering this preach one preach
New preachy toes
Preachy sniffer all those kind of people preachy beans preachy Heinz
yeah surprisingly the beans has been untouched for a couple of days it's been
quite nice there's a lot of people harassing my bean collections oh really
yeah do you enjoy it when people sending donations saying hey preach how are you
doing with the beans enjoy the word enjoying is a take do you have a favorite
type of bean black bean yeah big on a black bean that's not for you no no
No flex, that anchor totem is not for you.
And there's the reset coming out where that stage,
we're also at the stage where I can read a few of these donations.
Oh, are we getting some in?
Oh, you're so close to the next big goal, guys.
We had a donation yesterday, oh, is it this morning?
No, this is yesterday from Alex's Bean supplier.
Have you told Medic yet about the Tale of Hellfire Citadel?
Now, I feel that was for Alex specifically.
Do you know a Tale of Hellfire Citadel?
I did not play with Alex in Hellfire Citadel.
Well, I will remind Alex of that.
We have another one last night from, oh sorry,
yeah, it was Alex who's been invited.
This one is Etherinell, who says,
you've got this in the bag guys,
major thanks to Echo, but also the cast
is in production for this amazing entertainment part,
much love from Etherinell and NetNeon in Sweden.
Big heart to you guys.
It's a little sad we're not in Sweden this time.
It was a lovely country.
I enjoyed our time in Sweden,
but it was lovely too.
Very grateful for that $15 donation.
We have a $5 donation from Becky last night.
said can we get some banana yoghurt to Roger Brown so the boss can die which apparently is a
battle of Dazaalor throwback. Sorry. Well thank you. I see you talking about the monkey boss.
I would assume I can't remember his name, Gorg or Gong or something like that. That is a very
monkey-ish name. Yeah, monkey, monkey man. Not a difficult boss thankfully. Bailov donated
five dollars and twenty cents without a message. Thank you very much for that Bailov.
Jace193 today. Okay, that's the name that you know.
It is donated $5.00 said medic.
If you really want preach to eat something hot, you need to make sure it's a dry heat.
Preach loves it when his food is as dry as possible.
They have a lot of people have a real problem with my diet.
Of simple foods, simple food that I just get out of the way
so I can get back to streaming and not leave them waiting for me.
Well, I have something excessive and apparently that's a problem.
So you don't like sauce?
I don't mind sauce, but like if I'm stream- I have a real anxiety when I'm streaming of not being at the stream
Okay, so I just grab some chicken or whatever and have a little chicken sandwich and then go carry on going
But that's apparently a big deal to the world. I
See nothing wrong with that right? I'm on your side in this case
I think preachers being supplied donated a dollar
And said hello preach. Let me know which brand beans you want for the next month ASAP
getting the shipment ready. As if I know the brands of beans. You don't know all the brands of beans.
Who knows more than Heinz? Branstad. I do know Branstad. That's a pickle. Oh, they have beans as well.
That's what I know. I did also miss Moritz who donated $10 and said hope this helps
heart emoji. It definitely does. Every dollar is a child helped by games for love. So every
dollar you donate. Firstly, it makes us do embarrassing things. The next donation goal
is at 15,000, but on top of that we have scuff cosplay coming, we have the portraits of the
Vedas, we have tattoos happening, there's a lot of cool stuff. There's a cocktail hour,
which is going to be a mixture of fun, but also not so fun cocktails for the imbibers
of whom you will be one of them. However, if I'm not here, I'm just going to have to
give that responsibility to someone else. I will do it. I am a qualified cocktail specialist.
Oh, you are actually. I have legitimately a quality. You might have to be the specialist. I don't like them, but I can make them.
I don't enjoy them. I want one with black pudding. That's part of the goal here.
I have had black pudding for the first time here. It's very tasty. It was lovely. It's absolutely lovely.
The staple Colomban dishes actually really, really nice, including the uncooked pork. I just didn't fancy it last night
in our traditional German bar that we were in,
so have some dinner with some visitors who've come to say hi
and say hello while we are here in Germany.
So both say hi and hello.
They did say both.
They did, yeah.
And good morning, we get all of these.
They added in all the extras.
Yeah, those are words.
Yeah.
Interesting that good morning and good morning
both have GM as their abbreviation.
Yeah, they're just trolling, right?
They just didn't want to say it in English way.
I get it.
Yeah, I understand.
Well, we did lose Thana.
That's not where you want to see that.
you get these random little stimpits of damages
all it takes in this fight to just crew people.
I mean, these are the best players in the world
and you can see, because you can only imagine
how hard this fight is to live,
but they're gonna be calling here,
say, whoa, oh, there's Robin, they might keep it a good goal,
but obviously having a healer down
is not where you want to be
with the intermission still a little while away.
Yeah, you have to heal through all of this tick damage.
Every Nether Phantom on the field
is ticking for waves of damage
alongside that you have to dodge the charges. You have to dodge the Queensbane.
Queens get input, the dot on you. If it's applied to you, you have to dodge the orbs.
And then you have these slices coming through the boss as well. You get hit by one of these.
You're basically dead anyway. We'll see more waves of damage happening.
Kivesa does damage as well. That's why we see Robin continuing to fall. Dodge the blades.
Make sure you can avoid all of this incremental damage because especially with one healer down,
you don't want to fall below that 10%. If you do, you die.
And that obviously is not where you want to be in this fight.
However, we are going to get to intermission 2 as those Nether grips will fall off.
Now, can we survive during the intermission?
It's going to be really tough without that super rough.
We've lost healers mid-intermission where they've already kind of put out a lot of their burst.
It will depend where their cooldowns are lined up, but ginger down.
You can see how many blazes as we said earlier, the boss will not do less blazes.
It's just going to blaze you more.
It doesn't adjust based on people being dead to somewhat free you up
It was this kind of thought absolutely everything to make sure that this is a perfect pull boss
Which is strange at boss 6, but they're welcoming it. They know they can do it
It's just gonna take some real work. Thankfully they did leave the option to reset the boss as well
And you can see Ryzen and Grimm back together again to make things happen. All right, throw it me
Yeah, I can see donations are coming in
Okay, I know they're gonna be troll ones so I'm reading them so I can not read the ones that troll ones
I am I'm putting a stop now you have to read all of them. It's the rule. I don't I don't I mean you are raising money for literally
Money for six children and you are denying them. They're right to be heard on air a little bit. Hi medic
August here
It's $5 for them kids. Do you microwave your steak and keep your ketchup in the fridge?
This is something you do I
I heated steak once for my sandwich, because I prefer warm steak.
It was in the microwave for 30 seconds, cooked night before,
and been left in the fridge, so I warmed it.
Did you put any liquid in with the steak?
Yeah, like drizzle of water, or anything.
Ah!
It's fine.
It's 30 seconds to give it some heat.
It's fine.
It's not fine, but it's acceptable.
It's fine.
Ketchup does not go in the fridge, though.
Top shelf, brother.
Ketchup does not go in the fridge.
Ketchup does not go in the fridge.
It does.
No, if it lives in the fridge,
That's because it's growing something.
Yeah, have you guys never been anywhere on a holiday?
That ketchup is out all day, and it's fine.
Yeah, like on tables and no need to forget the fridge.
All day, it's totally fine.
You're using up very nice beer space for putting ketchup in.
Forget Team Crab and Team Spider.
Team Fridge loses.
Yeah, 100%.
Team cupboard represents.
If you're on Team Fridge, you should just stop watching the stream.
Why do people like calling you to saw some hot food?
Yeah, to create a weird, weird texture situation going on, right?
It's not really a texture situation, is it?
You get what I'm saying, though.
It's a temperature situation.
It's like a contrast to what's happening, right?
Although contrast is nice in food.
It is nice, but the cold is on a hot food diet.
Ketchup is basically a dessert with how much sugar there is in it anyway, yeah.
It's just, stop eating ketchup!
Stop doing it.
Make yourself a nice little fountain or something.
This is what annoys me about this.
I don't eat ketchup.
No, you drink it really, don't you?
No.
Guzzle it down.
I've seen the images.
The dark web has you just guzzling that ketchup, that's why you want it warm.
Otherwise you get brain freeze with how much ketchup you can't pull it down.
My frozen ketchup.
With my ice cubes of ketchup that I put into my drink.
My frozen ketchup bar.
Don't microwave steaks, don't keep ketchup in the fridge, that's what we're going for here.
You can warm a steak up.
You can warm a steak up in a frying pan, 100%.
Little saute.
That is way too much effort during stream, this is what I'm saying.
I literally left the stream, I saw some steak and threw it in, threw it on some bread and had a steak sandwich
Sounds like whole planning
That was, I wanna play out, this was two years ago
What, the donation? That's very impressive
The steak's impression was two years ago, they still bring it up
It happens
Uh, hi Mike, it's me again, Turdlin' Bish
Medic!
Hahahaha
Or anyone else who is casting who is not Mike
It's me
He eats a dry sandwich that is quite literally chicken on cardboard and a weird yoghurt
It's just fat-free protein yoghurt. It's not weird, okay?
You also microwave steaks and eggs and doesn't like bacon, butter or coffee.
Okay. So, the microwave steak we have gone over, I think it was a foolish move but I understand the expeditiousness.
The need for expeditiousness in that situation. I can forgive that.
catch up in the fridge never never obviously although I think my fiance put
it in our fridge and we've never had this conversation so there you go cutie I
don't like it well the engagement is off yep it's just over what was the other
one the protein yoghurt do you have that as a dessert or I just have it for a
lunch sometimes it's just a yoghurt that's the entire city of your lunch
yeah sometimes you having any any carbs or anything without any sugary nope is
there any sugar in it yep more worried about your glucose stores and your
You could go on still here fine. I mean yeah, you're still here, but come on
So we're fine. We had a lot of fat to lose dude. Yeah. Yeah, okay
So you're going like the queso sort of strategy a little bit just it's it's fine
And then I have something a little bit well substantial before I go to the gym in the afternoon
I'm more worried about like you being hyper-glycemic, but that's okay. That's how you want to eat
I'm not gonna judge you for eating. Thank you. What were the other things that have to judge you for?
Microwave scrambled eggs, which is
Disgusting actually it's how a lot of restaurants do it whether you know it or not a lot of restaurants might do it like
that doesn't make it tasty it's tastes exactly the same if you've had them you
literally cannot tell literally cannot cream in there because most restaurants
put butter in there yes you put butter in it you put butter in that you can have a
low-fat protein yogurt I'm sensing a bit of a criticalness here Mike not really
I've never had this on stream ever yeah but it's not about having it on stream
I literally don't eat it I'm just saying like you can make it that way
Oh that was the whole thing that you can do?
That was literally the thing that's still being asked for.
You can do that.
Yeah, you can totally do that and it's fine.
I assume this was you eating?
No.
Okay, well then, yeah, channel is wrong again.
I can't understate how angry people get over nothing.
Like where your ketchup is kept.
So they hold the scrutiny.
I mean we are getting angry that people keep it in the fridge as well though, so.
Because they're idiots.
Yeah, they are.
They're real idiots.
What's the other thing?
The proof is everywhere.
It's like someone trying to convince me the sky is purple.
It's not.
Ah, well.
Well, they're fracturing up the light through the atmosphere.
The idea is it could be my purple, but you're blue.
Oh, I do like that conversation actually.
What we told you was red, and what I see is red.
You might see as green.
Yeah, I think it would be my green, but yeah, anyway.
What's the other thing I have to judge you for?
I don't drink coffee.
See, that I do judge you for a little bit, because how on earth do you get through
the day?
I tried coffee once, I didn't like it, I've never touched it since.
Yeah, I did that with wine, but I still touch it quite a lot.
It's quite tasty.
I can force it on myself.
Yeah, no, I just put it in.
It's an acquired taste and you should acquire it.
I have seen you chugging a Red Bull at like 7am a couple of times.
Yeah, before the gym.
Yeah, because I used to go very early.
Why didn't you use a pre-workout?
I didn't bring any with me.
Ah.
I love a good pre-workout where you are just shaking between sets,
It's not because of the exercise, it's because of the amount of caffeine it's buzzing.
Ooh, we just lost that one going into it.
We're just playing a little touchy because they're about to do the second intermission.
Their DPS is good, but yeah, it's just far apart.
Thank God.
Cheers guys.
Okay, was there anything else in that first message that I have to judge you for?
That was it on that one, so let's go to the next one.
Okay, I do think you should try coffee because I think a lot of people who don't
like coffee had bad coffee.
What am I going to get out of it?
I mean, it tastes good.
Right, but...
And you get the caffeine you would in a Red Bull, and it's still sugar free.
Right, but I just don't, I feel like I've lived this long without it, and I'm okay.
Sure, but you lived this long, like, no.
What, I've luck?
I mean, my point, you lived this long getting quite chubby for a while, and then you decided
to make a change.
That was not, yeah, true, but I don't feel like losing weight to live longer to spend
longer with my kids and harass them into my old age is the same as now starting
to drink coffee.
I think the equivalent, gotta be honest.
I did go off coffee.
I stopped drinking caffeine entirely for a year.
Oh, I was great.
It was worse for me.
The headaches that I got in the first week were insane.
I had five coffees a day during COVID
and I had to start to bring it down
because that's way too much coffee.
All right, so let's move on to the next abuse for the kids
because we're almost at 14K.
You missed butter and bacon about it.
Don't skip it.
Butter and bacon.
Bacon is fine.
I have no issues with bacon.
I would just choose sausage over bacon.
I think they fulfill two very different roles.
Right, and I just, I prefer one to the other if there's a choice.
That's it.
But does that mean I don't eat bacon?
No, we had bacon the other way downstairs.
I can't believe you dislike bacon this much.
It's, yeah, I'm aggressively disliking, that's it.
That's actually uncalled for me.
I don't see bacon and like go,
Oh, it's bacon!
But when is the pick?
Yeah, that's not it.
It's a entirely different thing.
The butter thing.
Okay, so my parents were landlords in the UK
from most of my life, and they used to put on,
obviously like weddings and things like that.
And one time, I was a fat kid,
and so what I used to do when all the food was out
is even though it wasn't for, oh, for me,
was going to sneak maybe a couple of sauce rolls
or a couple of these very UK things,
a little sausage and pineapple.
Yeah, a cocktail stick.
A cocktail stick, a nice or a cocktail stick,
which what I thought was cheese cubes on the end.
So I grabbed a couple of these as a little chubby monster and went and they were cubes of butter that were put out
by request and I threw up and
Raw butter and bread I haven't been able to have since but I cook with butter. I put butter in the eggs salted on Souther's
Eat this is our seven so to butter is delicious. I'm sure it is
I wish I genuinely wish I could have butter because when I work on the road and just grabbing a sandwich
Does it extend to margarine or is it?
Yeah, it is.
The smell actually makes me feel really ill.
Okay, I get that.
I have that with tequila.
Yeah, tequila's a classic.
Yeah, so that's it.
But I've got better because I make sandwiches for my wife, my kids.
You hate pigs.
You hate farmers.
You hate pigs.
You hate farmers.
You don't like dairy products at all.
Everything was just oat milk.
What about oat butter?
Have you tried oat butter?
I haven't.
I drink a lot of oat milk.
Does that exist?
Oat butter?
Oat milk.
That's a lot of water investing into that.
Yeah.
Is that a problem?
Do we should not have water?
Well, I'm just saying, there's a lot of water.
The problem is there's probably people out there that drink almond milk and I don't want
them to feel bad about drinking almond milk.
So I was going to try and make you feel bad about it, but then I decided not to do
that.
I'm fine.
Yeah.
It's demonstrably.
Okay.
I'm going to go with it.
Right.
Should we move on to the next discipline?
You want to go on an almond, but an almond milk?
Yeah, I want to go on an almond milk.
Do it.
No, I'm not going to do it.
I want to educate you too.
Am I making a mistake?
But the thing with all of these different types of milk is firstly, I can understand wanting to not drink normal milk, right?
There's a lot of stuff with dairy farming that isn't great, right?
And 100% understand that, or if you just, you're lactose intolerant, whatever.
You have soy milk, which uses a lot of water per hectare to farm, but it's slightly better than almond milk,
which also often uses water in places where water is more scarce.
And so the amount of water you're using to get one gallon of milk, we'll say,
is much greater than the amount of water you use to get it from cow's milk, right?
So finding the right source, oats I think are the best for water consumption, generally.
Finding the right source is super important if you're doing it from an ethical and moral point of view.
Gotcha, how does that size the cow's milk taste as well?
Oh yeah, cows, you have that.
Can we have anything?
No.
Fuck.
No ethical consumption under capsules.
Just bacon.
Yes!
We can consume bacon!
The pigs are in charge!
Bring them down it's an Orwellian nightmare
We're all screwed. Oh god nightmare. All right
Let's let's let's go through all animals are equal but some are more equal than others apparently
We're all just gonna be sat here with our tofu cubes. In fact, Caro de Gura tried to sell me yesterday
What she called protein cheese, and I was like what is protein?
She's like we call it gray cheese, and I'm like right and she's like it's really tasty
I was like, okay, what is it?
Cause we haven't got that generally in our cheeseboards
cause we're both big cheese fans.
And I said, right, so what you do is it's,
it's kind of like a weird texture of powdery texture.
Right?
And then you cover it with other flavors, right?
So it doesn't taste of anything, right?
She's like, well, it does.
If you put it with like vinegar
and like maybe some sauerkraut and some,
I'm like, wait, wait, wait.
So you have to cover it in these really strong
acidic flavors you can get.
In order to make it work,
I was like, Kari, you're just eating cubes of protein powder.
Look, just the taste of it, and she's like, kind of, kind of.
And she thought she'd found a life hack, so I don't have protein shakes.
I have protein cheese covered in vinegar.
I'm like, ah, I'm like, just letting you breath.
It is tasty, though.
Just put enough spice on anything it becomes tasty.
It was like, we had scammed nuggets yesterday, team.
We had scammed nuggets.
There was a message that went out saying that Julia had made
us trays of chicken nuggets.
Our trays of, actually the wording was trays of nuggets in the snack room and these pictures came in of these like
really nice plated nuggets in a mound with the sweet chili sauce and everybody just ran out there and
Dipped them in and have them and then we were betrayed. Yeah, apparently I was fine with it
I thought they tasted real good. I thought they tasted fine
Alex didn't realize that they were plant-based until I said they might be plant-based and he had two and they was like
Ali refused to touch them. He's like this is a betrayal of my oath
It tastes really good.
Trying to feed me vegan nuggets.
I literally couldn't tell the difference whatsoever.
I'm a massive fan of that style of food
when it doesn't try to be meat.
Right, like a good vegetarian food.
Like I grew up in India, right?
So there's a huge amount of really good vegetarian food.
And then when I moved back,
I tried to eat more vegetarian stuff.
And often it's just like,
it's getting better now, but like five, 10 years ago.
They were just trying too hard to be meat.
It was like, oh, we wanna make the texture of meat
and we wanna make it taste like meat.
And it's like, this doesn't taste anything like that.
Just give me a good aloo kobi.
Have you tried an impossible burger? I haven't had one yet.
I haven't had one either.
No, apparently they're very, very close.
Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that doesn't really bother me.
Like, you can eat really good food that's vegetarian.
Yeah, I would prefer that.
But I do sometimes, I enjoy eating meat, so it's like,
if it's plant-based, I think it tastes fine.
I like bacon fine.
Jesus Christ.
Don't join them.
They're the worst.
Oh, wow.
No, because I'll see you in like five years.
You've been married this whole time, you know, it's all good.
Good, everything's going well. You're still not eating bacon. You'll still bring it up like these.
I'll bring up the beans. I'll bring them up.
Anyway, one dollar.
Thanks, Turtle and Fish. Jerk, we've been there for 25 minutes.
Alright, thank you, Mike's speedo friend.
Alright, I heard you were disappointed and you didn't get to hit Deathwing's feet in Dragon Soul.
Oh! I mean, I did. Yes, I was with Method at the time of doing Deathwing.
Also, when are we meeting in the hot tubs again?
Again, we were talking about hot tub man last night because there's no sauna here
So I'm not tuned to the hot tub man and his speedo. Yeah, again, a little shout for the splits again guys
They're still looking for people. Please type echo
Into LFG if you're chilling on your Sunday morning, wherever you are across Europe and you do some gaming
You've got no work. So you're having a gaming day echo is looking to get some splits done
So it's a normal normal all tracks. So if you've done her out this week, you're not done your normal normal all tracks
Still looking for a trinket. So please have a check there
So you help the guys out because as you can see everything matters in this race
Which is turning out to be potentially one of the most difficult if not the most difficult rate of all time is what you're
Witnessing here. Yeah, I really depend on how silk and court and answrek look but from what we have seen
likely even more pulls than
and Kiversa and Rude Twisted.
We have more donations.
You look like someone's got angry at you again.
No, this is for you actually.
Finally, if we can start a trend of attacking Medic, thumbs up.
It's fine by me.
Yeah, let's try and hit that 15k before they kill it
and annoy Medic more.
And we get to drive the producer's iPhones around
on top of little cars.
Oh, we're going to race into the players?
Yes.
Sweet.
Okay, this is Rexxx and $5, which again,
massive help towards the kids.
Everything here is helping those really sick children who need that help and that distraction medic. How do I get out bronze?
It's tough. It is really difficult
I'm going to assume that you are a challenger level mechanical gamer
Ah, it's your team that are letting you down
So what you need to do is every game when you get into chat you need a copy-pasted message and what it says is
dearest teammates I
Am much better than you are
So if you could please just focus on playing around me, that would be advisable
If you do not do this
I will run it down because you are wasting my time and I deserve to be in challenger kind regards
I can't remember the name. Oh
exec exec kind regards exit and every time they make a mistake
You copy paste that put it in again, and if they mute you you start pinging
People love pings in League.
Oh, sure.
Especially the question mark ping is really good, the BDS World's the most really good for
this sort of thing.
What you want to do is just constantly ping next to them.
You put a question mark there and it just shows you're inquiring about the state of
bed.
And you're engaged.
It's like, hey, I'm paying attention to you.
I was just wondering if kindly you could explain why you are so trash.
Can you explain to me?
The brain power it took to make that decision because I'm struggling.
one brain cell dodging around all of your teammates and every now and again it will get
into one of their brains and they'll have an independent thought. It rarely happens
that you have to do the carrying and by reminding them of that you will make sure they understand
who the true carry of the team is. Yeah and you also want to point out that if you could
you would log all their accounts simultaneously and still play every single one of the characters
and still do better than what they are doing right now. You could multi box league and you
be better than them the correct yeah yeah absolutely correct but then again
this is the road to success right yeah I mean guaranteed how quickly you are
bronze with this oh I I mean I started in bonds about 10 years ago and I'm now
master so just technically just a decade you know every game every game every
game every single game my message and now you have the biggest friends list
yeah right massive it's huge everyone loves me yeah at the end of every game
Everyone's just like sending a request. Let's do it again. They can't we keep myself safe quite a lot. Which is quite nice
Yeah, they're like, yeah
Toxic, but it sounds like such a healthy
Nice one. Yeah, I have a toxicity. Sorry. I will share with you off the stream. So it's not something. Oh, it's not stream safe
Well, I'll ask production. Okay. It's hard to say where you could go that couldn't put it be allowed
Okay
Next next issue comes in from smart 07
$10 came in from smart 07 and he says hi Mike your taste buds are no existent
Their existence is almost as big as a lie as warhammer summer. Now. Will you please give me VIP? So which I say
However, Mike's PC is logged in
What's she use it? What's the username again?
www.godmode.com
The username of the person that wants that's...
Oh who donated?
I'm a piece of trash, 07
Okay, VIP coming
Yep, so if we can VIP, I am complete trash all day
Yep
07
07
I've been told it's on the line but allowable
Tell me a story, regale me
So I was, I've only recently got to master which is like relatively high rank
Right, but I'm good at macro
I'm not so good at micro
I know how to read the map. I'm not very good at the individual plays and I made a few mistakes in this game
And someone added me afterwards, and I think I was streaming or something as I'll add them to you know for the entertainment
They sent me an Amazon wish list on it was one item just a vote
They got banned shortly after
you should do absolutely not like it's something you'll take that very wrong way
that is stream content forever oh my god come over to legal legends we have the best toxic
play i got kicked out of a dungeon the first time i've defended wild toxicity for a really long time
i got kicked from a dungeon i'm like what the hell just happened i got kicked i was like
like the top damage everything or something and it's because I was doing the quest oh yeah
because you were too far behind I remember over doing this catch up man oh we broke 14k
we did an amazing great job and for that Mike will eat a hot chip oh that wasn't sure
hasn't got bacon on it so you're fine copy with ten dollars hi medic I'm just wondering
What is your opinion on dishwashers?
Mike has some thoughts.
I am a big fan of dishwashers.
Good, me too.
I think you should have two of them.
And here's the logic.
You don't need any storage space for your cutlery or for your plates.
Because you fill up one dishwashers.
No, you are not.
It's great logic.
You fill up one dishwashers.
There's no way you're doing that.
You clean everything.
And then, then you have the other dishwashers, you put the dirty dishes in there.
And you just take out of the clean dishwasher and put it into the dirty dishwasher!
Two dishwashers!
That's some equipment stuff dude!
It's genius!
Oh my god!
You don't need a storage place for anything!
Replace your cupboards!
With dishwasher too!
Exactly!
Electric Boogaloo!
What are your thoughts on dishwashers?
I wish I had a space one, because they're very water efficient and the best way of
utilising and recycling water to maintain the clemenis of your dishes.
Unfortunately my home doesn't have space for a dishwasher so I don't have one.
You can get those really tiny ones that are like this big.
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
There must be some space for the dishwash on it because otherwise you're just, you're
kind of just making your wife do the dishes, right?
No, I do the dishes.
Yes, I've cooked hard.
Really badly.
She beats me with it.
With the dishes.
The sponge.
She's still my wife.
She's gentle.
Oh yeah, that's understandable.
No marks.
The whips and chains come out later on but you're not into that.
I tried to use it in a more practical way so it should basically just have me build a shed
I was really excited for a time and then I ended up putting up horse gear on the wall
If you have a shed
They do have a shed
Dishwasher in the shed
You think I'm carrying the dishwashers to the shed in the garden for the dish?
I understand where your error has come from here
Okay I'm missing it
Go ahead
You don't have to move the dishwasher every time, Preach
What does that bring the dishwasher to the dish?
The dish is going to the dishwasher
This is where I've been going wrong all these years, every time this is dirty plate on the table, I throw a dishwasher at the table.
It's a full shambles every time, it's full of water, it's really heavy.
It's a right mess, and this is why I didn't want one.
No, I've just never got space for one, apparently this is a crime.
I mean that's understandable.
Is it? Is that understandable?
It's understandable, you don't have space.
I feel like there was a lot of pent-up aggression there.
No!
And I came in very well-meaning with my, maybe there's a small dishwasher,
get one that just washes one dish at a time, perhaps.
you just replace it each time oh my god we have two hundred and thirty dollars and
fifty seven cents from an anonymous says I could eat some better poles real quick
yeah they do yeah they do thanks Chris so glad you're involved with production now
thank you Chris it's really happy jerk hey it's anonymous yeah two hundred and thirty
Thank you so much, that's so many people who helped, that's like buying a console for them,
kids with cancer, kids with some really nasty diseases, you're amazing so they can get their
mind off what's happening, you know.
It's incredibly kind.
Bran is terribly sorry to interrupt the memes but he wanted me to let you know he's found
a bit of gold, he certainly did, thank you very, very much.
It's incredibly generous, thank you so much.
It certainly is, no dishwashers there.
Get one for about 200 bucks there, if you want it.
I can't buy one. I want to put it.
You have two children.
You should take them to the bedroom.
You have bug beds now, so there's dishwasher upstairs.
If you only use the dishwasher during the day, you could take out the trays,
and then that's a good napspot for one of your kids.
Or you think you're getting pets, right?
Yes.
Cat litter box.
Here at different holes where we'll have a dishwasher.
We'll not have pets now because we got evicted from our previous house.
Yeah, so we had to get out with him like this watching that was definitely why it was
Yeah, it definitely wasn't really greedy landlords that look the cup cabal together to kick everybody out
Never do that
The government was locking them down their ability so they didn't all send it really fast before it became illegal to do so
That's not what happened to me
After 12 years in the same property
Not even the courtesy of a phone call. Wow dick
agreed but now thankfully the house is actually so un-maintained because he
didn't do any work on it but he's having to rebuild that'll teach you anyway
I'm not allowed to do that anymore
10 dollars from Jay Smoothman thank you so much I love the cast guys how is the
energy room for the Raiders electric this is the memes aside as they're
to get into grips with this pool. This is the day that Echo can kind of smell blood in the water.
They're not quite there yet. We haven't had that full shift of gear that Echo has. You'll know it
when it happens because they'll just sort of change. But Liquid did not manage to get the boss down
as Echo got out of bed. They know it's doable and that's the point. And then so this is the
day when you want Echo to really become dominant. I'm just noticing we've got to switch.
Swag is out. There's currently no Monk in the raid so I assume it splits as for Swag
to get a piece of gear, so we've got Perfecto in, so we're going double road, so get the
practice in on the players, obviously they're not expecting to meet the DPS check without
the monk debuff in the raid, but still Perfecto will be trying to, I mean this is going to
be a war between Perfecto and Kush to be better damaged.
Yeah, who has that damage at this point, obviously Kush has a little bit more practice.
Yeah, we'll keep an eye on it, but as you say, unlike me to actually get, it's
practice pause rather than progress pause, with these sorts of pause.
Yeah, because they don't know what the final comp's gonna be.
It might not be this one.
So, Swag will be coming back after his splits are done.
But then you get this opportunity.
And I see that Perfecto is higher than Kush right now.
Get wrecked, Kush, get outside.
That is not the play here.
So that's what's happening.
The Swag is out doing that split
that we just made a call for earlier.
So he'll be back in a few minutes.
And right now, Perfecto is stepped in,
which is why it's so important
that none of these players just drift,
like they used to do in the race to World First.
If you weren't in it first,
they would just sort of AFK and get out there.
It's a nice beams down. I suppose they're saving the commerce for other things
But we will be full focus when they're making a little progress guys. Don't worry about that
But until then we'll have some fun. You haven't played bottles game for you, right? I have yeah, but I'm finished
Okay
$10 from scratch
I have this boss was a dog echo could have drafted Mike in and the boss would have been killed instantly
Thank you for the $10 scratch
You killed Scratch?
It's not as it's said.
I mean, there's only one, like, it's a binary.
Scratch alive or dead.
Scratch is dead.
I tried everything to keep that bug alive.
Obviously not, because it's not that hard.
It is.
No, you just saved Scratch!
I did!
I like trying to...
Look, I really did.
There was one way of saving Scratch, that everyone else did, which was just to leave, but I tried
to convince, look, I really wanted to save Scratch, I'm a dog lover, you guys know that,
and I was really trying and I was like, tried to convince Scratch that someone was dead
and she'd come with me, and Scratch got aggressive and attacked me.
And you didn't charm or like sleep scratch or like
Instead you fired an arrow down scratch is gullet like a pin cushion
That's animal instincts scratch was the aggressor no. Yeah, no
Yeah, I'm look at this girl into the tree. I
Could tell you this
Have everybody you screamed but streamed about his gates which I had the third most watched streams of ours gates really
globally well
Unique playthrough, which well we have one rule in those kind of games
Which is we live with our consequences. We live without decisions right and we deal with the consequences and
that
Leads to a unique place because we don't save scum. That's not allowed and sometimes like scratch goes wrong
So I didn't know you could save scratch. I was full-blind
And then scratch attacked me and stuff like that. So I
Calmed it down
Disgrace
So there we are, that mini canyx swag all in a pool here together, mirrors there as well.
Oh, preheats in this!
Oh, Mitch is gaming and Symestra, which is Sam, production is not focused on us and what may or may not have a scratch.
They are gaming and helping in the splits, normal mode peasants.
Alright, Mitch literally leveled up to 80 yesterday because he made an EU character.
The cool thing about normal splits is it really doesn't matter what gear it's in, it's really for the bodies to increase the loop table there
But they're not gonna die here. It'd be if you guys could die in here. I would be amazed
I'm pretty sure Mitch could manage
Mitch would never do that
Mitch is very good, but that split is getting done and swag will be back in
Okay
Yeah, but the old Greg's gonna be dead before we get there. Yeah
100 bucks production will die, but
in game in game yeah okay they're not doing a scratch actually hurt oh Sam is
saying we got $100 before the boss dies you'll kill Merez I see me gonna try and
grip him off but I think the boss will be long dead before that as we come back
over to here you can see perfecto way ahead kush you better step up your
game kushy perfecto proving what he's got he's got a thirst to be in there
Now it's dead, that is the intentional death and you see it'll be back on his feet
We have one tank in this fight
So that means that when the tank mechanic does kill the tank the intention here is to rest him
Which of course means no one else can die unless you have some sort of self-ank or something on those lines to get around it
But they are really relying on the God pull to get this done. Yeah, we need the extra DPS
Is why we're running with one tank you want that extra man for healing at the moment
The question becomes at some point if they are consistent and they still have 10% left to go whether we move down
three healing as you say Potter has run the numbers and it said we might be able to possibly
perhaps make this work in certain situations. If I had to send the three heal they're ready to do it
which is horrifying. It was horrifying at Ryglon as well. They did it. They made it work you know
it's one of those things. Zassi down again does have the Ankh though. We'll be getting back on
Zassi's Tozies and getting ready for this intermission going in so still relatively clean
I mean, it's okay, you know, it's it's nothing they're able to rescue from of course they would prefer the ankle later
But this should be pretty good. We'll get back to your donations in a second guys. We just want to pay attention
I actually can really curious what DPS if they can survive this
Up Jinji has gone down and went from a hundred percent to zero. So I assume that was a quadrant being hit
Yeah, I mean, but even though I think they're called midnight. So it doesn't a hundred percent kill you
So it might have been a blaze overlap with a quadrant
Velo down and 67.2, so no advancement there on the damage with that going down.
So a little unfortunate for Echo, but we can confirm the split was a success.
Swag has a changed trinket, so maybe after this pull we'll be seeing.
I mean, there's a little RNG to DPS, debuff's gotten, things like that,
so Crush has had more experience, but Perfecto is also like Godmode on Rogue,
so would that not be the play?
So we'll come, I want to get through these before we move on.
Okay, purely because obviously it's for super good cause and it's important ziggs with ten dollars
Medic apart from my killing dogs
You threw acid on children
Concepts dude
We're just gonna leave it there. You're not gonna believe me, right?
Please tell me this was in Boundless Gate. Yeah
Yes, what yes, of course
Of course they do the
Of course I yielded it over there poor little innocent faces. There was a watch that melts in front of me
It was the witch's fault. I can't be blamed for this. There's a causality. It is kush. We're going out
No, kush is still in
That doesn't say worst player. Oh, it's not fonts. Do you need some classes?
No, I need the better fonts like yellow white on yellow and stuff like over in the top corner
Yeah, I mean I get that I get that yeah acid on children's faces. Oh come on. Okay. Look there was a witch yes
Who abducted a child? Mm-hmm and then ate the child
But we had a thing to make her regurgitate the child. Okay to save the child right
But you had to get the witch to a certain HP threshold. That's happened. So I was for ages
delicately
Working her HP down could have killed her outright blah blah blah, but I wasn't very being very very careful
So we were looking at the damage rolls and all that kind of stuff and the actual best option
To nicely and gently get it to the right threshold was an acid arrow
In order to just take it over and it not only crit it crit hard core
made a pool of acid on the floor, to which a cutscene then played of her dying and spewing
up the trillions of the acid. But I mean-
Get the chance, man.
No. No. No.
So I had to go tell her, brother.
Coming out of the gaping moor and a sitting hydrochloride filled stomach of this witch,
breathing the free air thinking I've been saved by the wonderful preach all
hell preach for bringing me out of my purgatory face first into acid face
melts off skull just exposed to the world screaming bloody murder
for some sort of god before I got there I don't think I think the kid was alive
I don't eat the child.
No, you didn't.
But does that excuse your actions?
I explained to the mother what happened.
Yeah? And how did the mother feel?
Did you explain in detail what happened?
Or did you say, hey, I got there but your kid was dead?
I feel the latter may have been the explanation that was bandied about
rather than I saved your child and instantly put them in a bath of acid
because I didn't realize that the heritity, that isn't the best thing for kids.
for kids really not the way it went down. It was a terrible sequence we met.
Yes it was and you contributed greatly to the sequence.
It's kind of funny though.
So now it is, obviously.
Oh, death of children, just ingame.
But you can counteract my efforts with donations too, games for us, because that's what it's
for.
But we had a little 69 nice donation from BFrozen.
Let's do this. Love the Wild Community. They are a generally good bunch. They are really really good
Excluding some bad eggs. Yeah, I feel like this is like every bad thing I've ever done in a video game
It's gonna be happening. Yeah, and the distaste for bacon
It's not what you said before is it not oh, we've been locked out
It worked. Did you click on the tiltify thing or are you on Chrome?
What if you click? Oh
Do you need do you need a responsible adult? Oh, it was on the dashboard
Yeah, and then you click the button. I think I was Billy dallying for too long. Yeah, I mean you probably were yeah
I was probably doing I'm trying to reword a lot of these to the more favorable to me
Honestly, you're getting me like
Sanitize a great food kid coming out of the city
We live with our decisions, eh, Mike?
I believed you laying bed with a squid in Balder's Gate 3.
We all did that.
Of course, we did.
That was where we saved scum, because absolutely no, in canon, my cards that would not happen,
but I was really like curious.
How far did they go with this?
Very far.
It was enjoyable.
No.
No.
I feel this is a subjective matter that you can't tell me it's enjoyable.
Don't you shame me?
I'm not shaming you, I'm not shaming you.
Oh yeah, yeah, okay.
I did not enjoy it, but I was,
I always pictured the artist in the studio
who's like, well, we're doing it.
Yeah, there we go.
I have some tentacles.
I wonder if they got expert help in.
Some rule 34 artists.
No, this Chris was busy.
Yeah, I had Chris working on other things.
Yeah, yeah, but maybe you did it by email.
No, possibly, yeah.
It's a no.
Dearest reader, what you must do
is insert the tentacle.
Given Mike's history with children and acid, I'm sure he's the best person taking part
in this children's charity.
And this was part of court mandated public service, wasn't it for you?
Stop following the court spin, okay?
Yeah.
This is amazing where you can get away with the context.
It's really good.
Owl Bear...
I'm not going to lie, there's no way I can sanitise this one.
Okay, I'm looking forward to it.
The Owl Bear Cub.
You killed the cup?
You can save the cup!
I was testing something.
You can't test something when you're not saved coming.
You're just killing all the cute creatures.
I also like the fact this is the one that you seem more upset about
than the one where you killed a child.
It was an accident!
Oh, this was deliberate.
I had an idea.
I had an idea and I needed to see if it would work. It did work.
Don't believe his lies, Medic.
He picks me up and used me to beat my mother to death.
No, no.
You killed the cop.
I killed the mother.
with the cub. You just picked up the cub when it wasn't dead? It was a living cub! And you
slammed into its mother's face at every moment. It's apologising. It's like, I'm sorry mother!
I don't think there's any context that absolves you from this situation. This is the eighth
circle of hell we have entered, Mike. Look, I tried to leave them at ease. There was
treasure in that cave and so I used speak animals and I explained to the mother that
we're not intruders everything's good we're just here to explore and she said
okay and then I moved two feet and she got into combat and I was aggressive
with me so I had to calm her down by bludgeoning her well it then it came to me
I wonder I was still it's very early in the game so I was still like you
get into grips with all the choices you can make and I was like oh you
can pick up the children cub and I was like I wonder if you can use it as a weapon and
I did and I beat that Maluta death with a road child.
I really think the fact the child was alive makes it so much worse.
You could throw them really far.
Because they have the wings.
They're so irritating.
They're like a stone.
Like a basketball, really.
That Albuacup is really good later on in the game.
But look where it's got us now.
You think about it.
At the time it seemed really bad, but now we're literally providing for really sick
kids that like education for the future like you know, it swings around.
Yeah, that's 100% true.
No, none of these people would have donated other than to shit talking.
It's a dollar for Bashil.
Mike, you remember that time you killed an in full of people?
I do.
Okay.
Okay, I'll keep your donation.
Do you want to lose the date or?
Look, right?
I had an Albeer Cub.
No. I used it as a doorstop.
No, no, no, there was a town in darkness.
Not without spoiling it, there's a town.
Well, actually, the town was in light.
That's the info of people you killed?
Well, the whole town, really.
I know, I felt bad. I don't want to be like pointing out like I did this out of a fun thing.
I mean, when you laugh about it afterwards it feels like you're doing it out of enjoyment.
I'm more laughing at how badly it snowballs because it really got out of hand very quickly.
And I had to kill the guy with Carlaxe heart.
I can't remember her name now. The daughter of the dude.
Oh yeah, you know what I mean?
Yeah, the light woman.
Yeah, the light lady.
Anyway, she's like getting kidnapped and stuff, right?
And you've got to kill all the enemies.
And they're actually dying really easy.
And I had a talent where my fireball would not affect allies.
allies. So you can fireball into like your, your, so she's an ally, right?
Ah, she's not an ally.
Technically not.
No blame for you. That's their fault.
Right.
She's definitely an ally.
That's called it like neutral slash ally and not actually an ally.
That's her fault for not really being on your side.
My man.
I like that is entirely on her.
That's not your photo.
Yeah. So I sent it because to finish off, I was like, wow, I was actually
expecting a fight I was really stressed out like keeping her alive I was like
healing her to make sure she was fine and I really went to like oh and I was
like oh this isn't that bad actually these guys are gonna die like next sit so
I was like dude we'll just send the fireball right and it crit her for
everything and it turns out if you kill her everyone gets mad the whole
place actually no it's way worse than that they actually lose the light the
darkness engulfs the town they all become zombified monster versions of
themselves including the women and the children the only way out the town is to
literally be neck-deep in viscera as you have to cleanse the town of the so it
was your own Anakin Skywalker moment and I was like doing it and I'm going to the
town one by one murdering all these innocent scoing this feels really bad
Oh yeah, it did!
They just got a butcher, you know?
Poof!
That's life, right?
I also... great game design.
The fact that happens after she dies.
Apparently I missed something like 30 hours of story because of that,
because it's one of those things that can happen.
There's a whole thing where you pull the whole place and yeah...
Well that fight's so easy that you'd have to go out of your way to make this happen,
and to me it happened accidentally.
Well, good job.
But you gave people content,
no one else really is going to experience.
Like from a viewership standpoint it works out really well although I freely admit everything
that happened here was unintentional.
Scratch the kid, that moment, I was like, wait, she's an ally, how did that happen?
Scratch you did intentionally kill.
After he attacked me?
Yes, but you did intentionally do it.
You did intentionally pick up the albergh up and beat his mother to death.
After that you attacked me?
I would never be a aggressor.
You can walk away.
From a fight?
Yes!
I'm from Manchester.
I can tell that's not realistic at all. No, there'll be none of that. Okay, look away. We're actually flying here. Thank you so much guys
From Mike's rat friend. Medic, do you think he prefers those squid tentacles over feet?
Neither will do just nicely
Both yeah. Oh, that's it's the last one. Oh, I got the freedom
I mean the subjectivity of what you enjoy is not my domain to view
I can say what's objectively wrong about your preferences, but I can't say subjectively whether you like tentacles or rats feet more
I just generally feet I could just say no to both
You can
Another most heard the noises from your hotel room
Yeah, they get cleans in there every day now apparently now someone keeps clean my room
Yeah for the slime and that's not even supposed to be part like the reception is very clear that shouldn't happen
Yeah, and someone's clean my room nearly every day
Yeah, I have fresh towels all the time. It's been weird, right?
But there's like a twin bed bed for some reason. There's nowhere to put towels. I'm sure you've noticed
So they keep put them on the other bed. They put them on the other bed
Which is where you keep a wet towel, obviously
And I've never touched the ones on the second bed. Okay. Yeah, they replaced them every time. They're still folded
They're not the same ones though. I tested it
I put like a little mark on one of them because I was curious. I was a mark. Yeah, and they're legitimately changing them
Every time despite the fact they're clearly unused. Yeah. Yeah, it's really weird
I don't know who keeps clean my room, but of course Alex had a weird one
Someone cleaned his room for a hole in the wall. Yes, and told him he needed to change room, but he can't find the hole
Yeah, and he's not changed room. Yeah, it's an issue. I like to have the rest as well. Yeah, exactly
I'll ask the nation if $10 from an almost you guys all up to date on games for love is what we're reading here
Which is of course providing?
entertainment and things to children who have trapped in hospitals a wonderful cause and then helping them with their
reintegration with education and things like that afterwards scholarships and
that is a wonderful cause Mike please don't let input children in a
gulag we won't even let them have toilets
I don't need to explain the gulag it was a temporary situation at best
sometimes you need a little gulag honestly space efficiency in terraria is
important oh 100 yes yes you should be building for expansion purposes
and not for anything else big thank you to everybody who contributed there
You guys are awesome and we are back here with Echo who is looking to get they've been more and more consistent
We have been keeping an eye on them. We've seen face you quite a few times now. Not perfectly clean
That's what needs to happen. The spike will not work without them getting there all the way
But as you guys are well aware now as we have several hundred pulls in
This is the one wants to kill you. This is the one
Twilight mask are coming out dodge the phantoms to the side eat a couple of those death masks now goes down expected death
40 seconds into the fight. That's where we expect him to go down for the first time.
We'll have the uncle to bring him back up and now we dodge away.
Oh, it takes a second. Yeah, I've seen nice memes dive through that as well.
Just scooting his way through on that demon hunter. But it does take a second before it kills you.
Mainly, I think they've only done that as well because the tank has to drop it on themselves.
And if they didn't do that, the tanks would be getting killed. Not that we're doing that,
obviously, but they've had support slight delay and it activating.
All the charges going through, daggers to survive, the Queen's been coming out as well
and then we'll move into the first intermission.
Ooh!
Narkali's dying right at the final moment there before we get into that.
I think he got hit with two.
Yeah.
I mean, that was a straight up death from 100 to zero, he was actually quite comfy
there.
We are going into that intermission.
Again, watching the DPS here a little bit, we obviously don't care until they start
getting to the end of the fight about the DPS, but we do want to keep a track and
And obviously you keep also getting out of the DPS and losing focus on maximizing every
single part of their outputs because once they do get there, they want to be in a position
to kill the boss.
The final big blaze is coming out, you'll see these dagger icons which indicate blaze
going out on everybody in about three, two, one, there it is, it does, boom, boom,
zero flex, both getting double clobbered there, which is a shame because they are furthest
They might just been obviously as those ranged DPS they're able to hang out at the back of the room
It was a 65
65 really that coming out of it. Yeah with
Narkali's definitely entire intermission. Yeah, it's very impressive
That's kind of where we want to be in terms of damage that we've lagged as we get through to these nether rifts again
Obviously don't expect the boss going down on this pool just looking for that progress into p3
It hasn't been, it's been consistent to P2, where you're having one or two people dead.
Now getting into phase three, obviously very important, you need that consistency all the
way through, and the longer you can keep that mental wear with all together, the easier it
will be for you when you do have that God pull.
Now falling again, to be expected, we have the combat res, it's gonna bring it back
up, Zazito and Bello going down.
Double healer outage is not a good day.
Not good at all.
not even for testing and getting comfortable with what they need to do in the later phases.
A lot of this is actually not on the DPS, it's on the healers and their positioning and their work
in that intermission especially because they imagine how hard it is for the DPS to be dodging
everything to make sure things right and then combine that with the healers who have to be
mousing over those frames, they can't just fully focus on a targeted boss, they have to be
constantly pumping and triaging people making sure that they're taken care of. The healers
Throughout this raid, including Brutesvista, I've had horrendous amounts of work to carry
the teams and get them there. This is possibly the most challenging healer raid back to back
bosses we've seen in a long time. Yeah, it's a real, real push for them to actually get enough
healing out. You can see both Velo and Thana up near that 2 million HPS mark, which is incredibly
impressive firstly, but also showing just how much you can get out of that Prezavoka
if you press your buttons right, which is something I fail to do most of the time,
I'm gonna be honest and also interesting is I could need to get a wriggle on method have had a 19.4
That is a big pull after 885. That is an amazing pull for method. Yeah, that is a really really good pull
To get that gets get where they need to be obviously I simply all levels all similar everybody looking over to China
It was like how the hell you have 623 point five
How has that happened the discussion? I've seen is be a we farming on the trash before the first mythic boss
smart yeah so you don't lock out because you don't actually ever pull all
gracks but you manage to farm BOEs in that phase and then get them funneled
onto your main characters so lots of farming happening happening from the
huay grouh heroes and they are in a very strong spot item level wise 37.6%
on Kvesa so far that is crazy that is really crazy because Roger Kates is
like what do you think they're doing? I don't know something you didn't think of and that's what they're thinking
Exactly. Are they doing something we've not considered, especially in such a DPS heavy gear required situation as this is, which is where the boys are.
And seeing somebody else have such a dramatic eyes, as you can see, the way everybody else has done it, Liquid Method and Echo has all landed exactly equal in where they need to be, 0.2 dividing the three guilds.
and that's basically who's coming in and out on each time.
Swag obviously back in the raid now.
He did acquire his trinkets.
He's got what he needs.
That's clearly gonna make him so they don't die all now.
Yep, that's 100% what's gonna happen now.
Swag will be immortal.
And was he in on the last pull?
He was, yeah.
He was, he's been in for a couple of pulls
because obviously getting that monk raid buff back in
as well is gonna help increase that damage
a little bit as well.
We will see how well they can do.
Echo with their trademark break after a couple of pulls.
We've got some fancy bean time.
It's a little bit of bean time.
It has transferred from wine time to bean time now.
I believe they've got themselves a nice animated bean
emote.
Thanks, Jack.
Quite a great pull out.
How about a break?
How about a little break.
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to see about as well. Yeah, as well as games for gamers, I think we're going to be having
a little chat with Ginger later, because I know many of you tried out the fitness dungeon.
I questioned the name, the fitness dungeon, but a lot of you tried it out because it
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found it really good actually. The feedback we saw was ace, so that's something you
can check out there, but I think it's expand games in the chat. Yeah, I think
so too. I'm looking forward to doing some stuff with games for gamers over the
next few months, obviously getting fit for my wedding, one of my goals. So you can kind
of see how effectively they can get me shredded.
What are you doing? You're going hard lean? What are you going for?
I don't really like super hard lean. My goal is not a six pack, you know. I'd like to be
lean buff, you know. Muscley, a little bit of chubby here. That's fine. But I want
to be comfy in my skin, which is always the most important thing. And I want to
lift heavy weights because I enjoy doing that.
I like it when the big weight goes.
I'd like to hit a couple of PRs. I think my previous dead PR is about 190 kilos or something.
So I'd like to get that up above 200, maybe join the 1000lb club at some point.
Yeah, I'm not even targeting now. I've stopped on going heavier, because I've always worried
of getting bigger than what my day-to-day life requires, so it shrinks very quickly,
because I don't intend to jib this hard forever.
I get that. I mean, you just want something nice that you can maintain, right?
Yeah, not being on the radar for death is what I'm saying.
That is a bonus. Yes. I'll put that one very much in the positive.
The doctors were definitely giving me the...
Yeah, you should probably do something about that.
And it can sneak up on you as well, right?
Like, sometimes it's just over the course of years that you, you know,
don't eat as well as you could do, that you get towards that position.
I gained a lot of weight over COVID and then lost it
because I had to do a music shoot for the LEC, right?
It's very easy for it just to
start getting up behind you and you slowly work out of it and that's something games are games
doing really well as well right it's not about change everything you know life immediately it's
about you can't if you do too hard yeah it's very important sure that's what jimmy's going to talk
to us about um but obviously we i've been through it as well as many others have been in the chat
you do too dramatic a lifestyle change you can't keep up yeah it has to be slow it has to be
steady disciplined and just little changes small changes otherwise you end up just like
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you'll be like I just would rather do this this and this and this and this and this
because it all snowballs little changes dropping you know the type of snacks you
have when you game that's a great start that's a really good start changing
from there so it's something bad to something a little healthy or maybe
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sponsoring this event I'm making it so we can be here well two nether rifts went
down in the same spot yeah nice means when dying pretty consistently yeah I
think I don't sure if he's fell rushes clipping the side of that close portal
that they're keeping you know so they can keep a little bit of uptime cuz
I've seen it exact same point is before Queensbane comes out like it's
not like being hit with a ball or anything interesting yeah it seems to
be just a touch before that so I'm just wondering as they go for the reset
reset the bus if he's just clipping onto things so the push takes off the headset
are they having their own beam time themselves? We haven't had a break like a
proper 10-minute timer recently so it seems like we're not going to have
beam time yet according to production maybe Kush just needs a second to
reset. Yeah a little bit. A few of them are waiting maybe so a super fast
bathroom break so maybe we can take this one too we have a little listening
We'll wait for a second and we'll do a bathroom run and come back and see how things are going
So we'll be back with you shortly guys
Yeah
Like just got clipped by the eclipse by altering is like one yard
Yeah, you're unfortunate
I would wait Mike Mike's like got fixed so if anyone is lagging with the lag spikes
I don't know what you're doing Mike. What did you do Mike?
What's happening to us?
Nothing.
Nice to be supported to destroy the table right there.
I saw it in the space.
He was a bit angry, yeah.
That guy is crazy.
Trapster, you're not even hungry for the next meal.
I'm starving then.
Oh, unfortunate auto time.
Not really.
But is there some other programs we can close maybe, that we don't use?
And if some of the things are important?
There's one called Echo something in my thing.
How many times are you replaying it, Skrull? Come on.
I'm looking at everything.
I don't understand.
Yeah, I don't know. One thing is where you guys have your altar times to be used, but yeah.
It might be good to have it at the same time, aren't you?
I'm just coming in a sec, just that please.
I used to make a mission list.
Once in the dashes, or maybe you use circles, mine for example.
I don't know, yeah, it's fine, focus on the set.
I'm using it in the middle of the room, the Nasek explode, I put it in the middle.
Respect the bananas, yeah I know.
Whatever.
Good point.
You're always back, I know DPS, closest to group one.
Nako, instead of me, I'm actually inside the tank.
I think, but...
Crabcodes were being leaked also.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was temporary.
World market charges.
World market charges.
And then don't hit the boss after, guys.
Watching your feet.
Moving out.
Don't shoot the boss.
Excellent.
Well, that's what I've been saying.
What's that, 2x2 or nothing?
8x2.
Let's kill Stoge
Okay, middle charge is coming
Charge is through the middle
Watching your feet
Moving out
And...
Watch the balls
Finally
Your mission position is slowly
Don't risk any hero plays here
Move to Zephyrs
Oh, I'm just a bit greedy
On your bank
Two
One
Now
Alright, easyank
Really, the KS.
Respecting the bananas.
Hell yeah.
I'm going far.
I hope.
What market charge is coming?
And then don't shoot the walls of these.
No, something.
Resim?
Watching P. I can't tell him.
It's a...
Which walls?
It's gonna be like...
Oh no.
Maybe find one.
It's fine, it's fine.
We have a sprint.
There's Ultron at the bit of need.
Okay, middle charges now.
middle chargers now through the middle through the middle watching fear again
I don't have a nice thing I don't know my son he's kind he's fine it's completely
both all scramming yeah after the left hand serious observing scary was fine
yeah slowly intermission positions after this positions and a stellar looking
pole here from echo guys second and submission only one dead but this is
of course, a really scary moment. If they can keep everybody up here, we might be seeing
a new best for mech-o, but let's not curse it.
Well, we've already started casting, so I think it's doomed from this position on with
no way dodge away from the blazes.
Oh, look out for themselves. Here's the mega blazes. This is a scary, scary one.
Good positioning they use now.
Now to die.
Do they have an on?
Nope.
No.
So we are tankless, so it's time for some serious taunt swapping or whatever going
on here to try and hold it out.
It's four seconds right on the combat res, one and a half minutes, so now they can get now up, they need that GCD, now it's going to come back up.
They've done such a good job of surviving, bringing now up just in time, get the rifts in the right positions.
Got it.
Warlife has gone down as well, so we're too dead, but this is going to be a new best, assuming they can survive through the rifts and these charges, a huge pull for Echo.
This is incredible. Mae Volker has gone down, it was DPS, that's okay, but this is going to be a pretty consistent, solid, stable performance.
They got very lucky with that Comet Resonance and Robin.
They need to relax now and just chill and just get used to what's going on here
because we haven't seen them deal with this awful, awful Phase 3 in quite some time.
Now it's okay that Wildlife Died. He sacrificed himself and now, so now could live.
Gingy almost gave Mark for death. It was Reves who went down.
That is not a nice rift really, but they should be okay because the next charge is the easy one.
This is going to give that permanent 30% buff to the boss.
They're going to pull into the middle and all these deathmarks going to go through so you're going to see a new thing added to the fight
Which is a permanent buff to the boss. They have to adjust around these different positions. They've done it
Now Robin's got down but with the ink that is intentional Robin back up
God God knows what his repair bill is on this project. That's huge. Rison's fallen into that angel form as well
He's gonna fall as R2B himself
Yeah, Robin down, but if they can survive for just long enough to get to the final intermission
Maybe they can have some progress here. The problem is can you kite to Vezza? She is very speedy
She'll close you down quickly and start to see all those
Intermission we go. No, no, they did not get all three through the boss. There was still a death mark up
Which she means that the instantaneous wipe, but that's much better
That's what we want to see from echo is more consistency interface three. They coped with it adjusted
They didn't quite get a position probably because Robin died again
Which is truly unfortunate, but what a great poll from echo
That's what we need to see more of because if echo just talking about then if echo do not kill this today
It's fine. They're still on pace with liquid, right?
That's exactly the but what echo always needs to do is catch up and take over
They have to do this every single race and today they know they have that chance
They have that chance to make liquid wake up and be behind and after like start catching up to echo
So obviously we do expect Liquid to be killing this in their next pulls, but if Echo can pull ahead, that will be a huge boon to them.
The morale will change and we might see that infamous shift of Echo play style.
So when they get to play in front, they get to get to Silicon Court first, they get to start developing their own strategies.
They're not looking or being influenced anyway by what others are doing, and that's when they're at their absolute best.
So fingers crossed guys, they need your support right now because as you can probably tell this boss is nightmare land
Oh, it's just Alice. It's so many DPS checks so many positioning checks so much movement as well
The fact that they're single tanking it
We even hear scribe calling in the comms go to attack the boss right now because if you do you're gonna draw aggro and before Robin
Gets back up. You're gonna be a very tricky situation
I think Chad is mostly saying that we should get on the floor because we joined and then they immediately started
Or you thought it was the kill, that just makes you the circus, not us.
You fools, bunch of clowns out there in chat.
Yep, it's because you're clowning, that doesn't mean we are, just, we know.
Let me tell you guys, when you're going to be thinking about a kill,
we're going to be going into the phase three submission with 20 people on their feet.
That's when we're going to be looking at a kill and we will be like crawling across the floor,
hoping and praying that they can get through that. That's when we get hype.
Yeah, it needs to be like 15-20 people left really for it to be a kill,
because you only have 30 seconds before you go into that true endless night with all of the pizza slices,
the whole floor turns purple and you know you are going to die very shortly after that.
And we don't even have particularly strong execute with this team.
Like it's not going to be like what we saw with Brutus there where it was like lost
with a lot of people in the execute bonuses. We've got a few but not a lot so it will
need to be in a good position. But polls like that are what's going to fire them up,
they're going to check what went wrong, what is there anything we need to adjust.
more than likely, not really. It's more a case of don't die, lol.
Yep, just do it.
Yep, we need that to happen for Echo, but we want it to happen today. We would love it.
They have plenty of time left. They have like 10 hours left of raiding to achieve that goal.
So if they can do it in the next 10 hours, they will be happy bunnies to take the lead.
And ideally guys, they'll actually kill it in the next few hours so that they
don't hide Silkencourt.
Because if they do so can caught up to dinner wouldn't be surprised if we go dark early
but we will see obviously with Echo if they manage to get the kill today they are ahead
of Liquid for the first time. They also need to keep up pace with Method who are absolutely
storming up the charts. 19.4% pull a few pulls ago for them. There's the ready
check again. We are approaching what would usually be lunchtime but I would not be surprised
at all if eating is slightly delayed today.
Yeah, they'll do a room read.
Although we are like trying to maintain
some strict schedules here,
and obviously the chef here, SK Magenta,
is preparing the food for a certain time.
If they have hit a stride, keep going, right?
Cause that stride, as you guys know,
if you've ever done progress raiding
is that the stride comes in bursts and waves.
You have like this scuff period of time
where it's like, Christ, man, why are we wiping here?
And then you suddenly hit like a good
back-to-back streak of runs.
If that's happening, and the players won't want that either.
like if we're feeling it, let's go. And then if we start having a couple of crappy wipes,
then yeah, sure, let's call it lunch and go then. So they'll make that call and we'll
be right here with you to make sure that we're along for that ride.
We will first set of Netherrifts going out. We see the Queensbane being taken outside
as well. I've been going relatively close to the raid, but no one falling. That's
important. Earlier on today, we were wiping to some of these easier mechanics of the
fight which is still incredibly fragmented from time to time. We'll see the crossover here,
now falls expected, he's going to be anched back to life and we will see them getting towards
the second charges. Wee, all of us, it's beautiful how it goes out and comes back. We've got those
two players there, this is going to be a reset, they're going to be, if they've lost Zazi already,
I think Zazi could have anched. No, like you need those for later on, I don't, it's
It's got to be a reset, right?
There we go.
Yeah, there's the reset.
That's exactly what we expected them to happen,
which is fine.
No party wasting time on this anymore.
We often talk in the race pool first
about turning the chaos into normality.
And in fact, it was just reminding me,
we've got some, like I said,
we had some physicists here who just said,
when I look at this boss,
there's just so much going on.
There really is so much going on visually
with all the movement and stuff.
But if you're not there yet
with what's happening and all these kind of things.
The mechanically, the fight isn't that complicated.
You might think that they're not dying here
to mechanical issues.
They're dying to sheer brutality.
It is a relentless, awful fight.
In principle, the fight is very easy.
You drop your rifts, which obviously each one of them
has a drag-in mechanic that's trying to pull you into it
because you die if you touch the rift.
But obviously, by spreading them out equally,
you end up just kind of trapped in the middle,
which means you can just stay in DPS.
And the difference in Mythic is of course these deathmats,
where the boss has the shroud that needs to be removed
before the intermission.
The way you remove that, as you see when the rifts drop
in a second, is these red outlined ads
that you're about to see.
It's hopeful sort of trundles over into position.
You can get yourselves there.
You can't quite see them in this point of view.
Oh, there you go.
So you can see the top right at the blue,
that one's got a red outline.
So, and the ones with right as well, orange.
They have a red outline on them in the portals.
Those are the ones that need to go through the boss to remove the shroud, you can see these red ones.
So you can see they move the boss over, the guys line up their charges to go through the boss
and that removes two of them, you can see that two boss stacks image on the screen in the middle right up area.
The middle right up area?
Yeah, it's not top right, it's the middle right-ish a little bit up, which two of them only gives a temporary buff to the boss.
Each stack is 10% so it can go way past this. If they did five of them in the last phase, it would be a 50% damage buff like you can totally do that. Not a good idea.
You can do that. And then they get a second wave of charges so they can get rid of the final mark of the shroud.
So they just put it in the seats. One stack now, but the boss still has a 10% damage buff, but it's temporary.
If the boss gets three or more of those stacks, because you might be like, why not just send three and do one nasty bit where it's got a 30% damage buff, but then there's nothing on the next charge.
That's permanent. Once it hits three it's permanent for the remainder of the fight.
Any subsequent charges that go through the boss will just add more stacks, it's not going to run out.
So you have to do it in twos, that's the jump.
So that's how they coordinate it.
So it's one, two, two, two, three.
In the way we'll see through the cycles.
After you have those two cycles of charges, we move into the intermission.
Here we have to deal with these register side blazes on the floor.
And also the pizza slices of doom, that's twilight you have to dodge.
Now, if you are ranged, dodge forward to the back, not the most complicated thing in the world.
If you're melee, this gets ever so slightly more challenging.
If we could switch to one of their viewpoints, we can see just how much dodging they're having to do in the middle of it all.
Now, if Thana did fall in that previous intermission, we'll see if we decide to get him back up.
Or if we're going to try and deal without a healer, there's the res.
Thana back now can be unked when he has to deal with a tank bus.
So if this 64 is a new PB 64% on the boss coming out of that intermission 64 that's
what thirsty.
Yep.
That's what that is all DPS were alive throughout that entire process 64%.
And we've been looking at 6766 and then we saw the edges of 6564 coming out of that one.
So they're they're feeling a vibe right now.
Let's hope they can keep it together for a few pulls.
It doesn't take much to fail this, as you guys have seen over the last hundred plus, uh, hundred
other polls. Uh, but if they can hold the line a little bit, uh, Robin is dead and they're going
to have to do some shenanigans here in order to keep this going. Yeah. Still two minutes before,
well a minute and a half before we have a rest. So I think it's just going to be a reset. Run
to the doors, escape. I will quickly go and have a look at what our DPS is looking like though,
while you are. I'll refresh the donations as well. I think as soon as I said we were done,
a bunch more came in, but this is a good vibe. We might be looking at some
really good back-to-back pulls here from Echo, in order to keep things going for them.
As I say, Sebastian, thank you for the $20 towards Gamers for Love.
I appreciate that, dude. Keep up the good job. Thank you. Appreciate you, brother.
That's really, really nice of you.
So, Echo, fingers crossed, guys. We do get these little strings.
They feel the vibe. They're getting into a groove a little bit.
Now, we will see some up and down throughout the day, you know,
that these hours do while away for the race to world first, it is a long time to be sat
in these chairs, these wonderful secret lab titans that the guys are in. They're comfy,
but it's keeping focus. I know I can't do it anymore, that's for damn sure.
Yeah, it's a bit of a tricky situation to be in that chair for like 12 hours trying to
focus the entire time, only getting a couple of breaks. Let's compare April from earlier
today, about two hours ago, the 41% fall, damage done before three deaths. Let's
have a look at where we were. We had three deaths at the one minute 58 second mark and
we were about 20 million. That might be a little bit early. Let's see if there's another
one that we can grab. Let's have a look at the 66% of three deaths just before two minutes.
Again, 19 million. We're sitting around that at the moment as well. However, our
third death is coming in about a minute later on average. So consistently 19.2, 19.3
million DPS across the first three minutes of the fight. We just need to keep people
alive to keep that DPS ticking over.
Yeah, but what we are seeing despite the fact that like, uh, MEDIC has rightly pointed out
there is a level of consistency getting further into the fight before they're hitting those
extra deaths, which means the deaths earlier are less and less. That's what they need
to push it all the way for just six and a half minutes. That's all it's going
take is six and a half minutes for to not die. Do not die for six and a half minutes as best
as you possibly can with these healers carrying on their shoulders this entire raid right now.
And if they get all the way there with everybody alive and they don't kill it, the healers are
actually striking. Oh, they've got a primer. I've done so much work to keep you all alive
through this battle. It looks like we have a few communications between the players right now.
I think it is usually around lunchtime now, but we talked about the possibility of extending
this pre-lunch portion because they are playing well.
Like the positioning is good. We're seeing those deliberate deaths on now.
We're seeing a couple of people fall here and there but it's nowhere near the level of wipeage
that we saw at the start of the day.
No, not at all. They are improving. It's just this, this isn't going to something they
could walk in and stomp. This fight is too hard for that.
There ain't no way, ain't no how. They need a little bit of look.
They need a lot of skill and that's what's going to get them there.
And so without any, without all those things they're going to be in the,
they're not going to get there because as you've seen even with the Amnipoles now 161,
Fanner has been ridiculously consistent throughout this and then suddenly on that blaze I just got
overlapped by maybe you know half pixel a couple of pixels whatever and that's it GG. Yeah that's
all it takes, all it takes is that tiny little bit of extra position, positional mistake for you
to die sometimes you can think you're just out of the range of it as well because they kind of
tail off near the end you can't quite see exactly where those blazers end but we
did see Fanna falling into that one previously Roger deep in discussion
forget lunch forget lunch Rogers Rogers delivering his servant from the mount of
the secret lab Titan he's gonna educate them he's like just just kill it
look guys I can't add more we call us okay we already have banana I'm running
out of fruits what are we gonna have next the orange oh no ironically this
This would be a fight that Roger Brown would excel at.
Obviously he did not stop playing
because of lack of skill and ability.
He was still top performer on Razageth
in his last tier, I think it was Razageth.
I don't think he played in Aberyst.
He might have played in Aberyst,
but obviously Aberyst was over so quick,
I can't even remember it.
But he did not retire,
but bow out because of his skill and ability.
It was more because he's able to see things
in the arm and being an outside raid leader
is very, he's very, very good at it.
This is not the best image of this peak performance right now, but guess who's been up all night working on this fight?
Probably Roger. Probably Roger. It would be a really good fight for him though, because there's nothing to fall off.
You're surprisingly good at not falling off.
Yeah, well, I've seen the memes.
But because of what it did, it was amazing. It was so good because there was no way in hell he shouldn't have not been off every platform, and he went to extremes to make sure he kept his right spot.
I'll be subbing.
Warlife is offline right now.
I've got a relog there.
That's just a relog?
Yeah, I don't think you're dropping a warrior here.
I mean, yesterday, they were running
Two Hunter for a lot of the fight.
They were.
I mean, it's hard to say.
Do you want that damage earlier or later?
Do you want to lose the rallying cry?
It's such a delicate balance of everything that's going on.
It's like, OK, if we're replacing you, why?
And what are you losing?
What are we gaining?
Because that's where we're at.
has been so min-maxed to the teeth, that it's like,
okay, we need to justify who's going out here.
Do we want more range to make blazes?
Is it a case of like, well, maybe we lose your damage,
but we can find, we've got wolf disco on the bench
for Christ's sake, right?
It's a killing machine.
It's not like Zero was doing bad damage, right?
So it's like, wait, maybe we bring another range
into make the submission just that little bit safer.
One less melee is a lot less blazes in melee.
It's as simple as that, because you get targets in three, four times and then you've got the mega one.
That's a lot that's all bunched up and obviously people are getting clipped, like we're not with fan of that.
It's happening regularly, so it's like, do we bring one more range to just reduce that a little bit?
Maybe?
But maybe it won't work, and maybe by bringing someone new in you revert your progression by 2, 3%, right?
Someone who has to relearn the fight even if they've already been in on some of the pools.
you do need that time to settle in. Currently pools going very well for Echo. I do see people
getting up and out of their seats though. Timer is on break time, lunchtime here for Echo.
We're going to go and get some lunch for ourselves as well. Thank you again to all the amazing
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You mean you're called the bananas?
No, respect bananas
There's something really special guys
where you kill one of your teammates
and then you just have a little giggle about it
while your teammate is sat next to you
looking a screen like, dude
what the hell
nice moves did just kill
gosh, during that intermission
until then it was looking spectacularly good
but of course
in true princess fashion. It has all fallen apart. I hope we've got a replay of it because
it was really... that's because he's just chuckled to himself.
I will say, I wasn't anywhere near the cast of couches. And then as I start to walk in
Cush Dice, there is something cursed about this place.
So he's chilling, right? But he gets this and moves over. Now he's okay here. Now
watch Nice memes. He's stood behind him to the right. So they shift to the left
the nice memes is going to get a vertical line on him in a second so they're all chilling everything's
good so it's not yet it's in about five seconds they're all nice they play together they're
good friends now watch nice memes go left there's his vertical line and he pulls back safely watch
kush boom oh i mean like bro there was nowhere for me to go the nice memes just giggles to
himself. Could not send ping, sent too many pings at once apparently, they're from Gush.
No, not at all, it was great moments but they have had a food buffet, we've had an exception,
what would you describe it as? These nachos. Yeah, it's like a nacho with avocado with guacamole
and some salad and some mince. Followed by red berry crumble. Oh, it was delicious with that
Chantilly cream. Yes, the medic will be putting up. Yeah, up now and deconstructed lasagna is how
I would describe it
Julia's done it again, and she's ruining these raiders because now everybody's got bellies full of sugar
Yeah, nachos all kinds of good stuff digest. That's what you've got
Five pulls and then you are back on form if you're echo. I have had an update about method
They have obviously got that nineteen point four percent pull. They are still two tanking
So unless they have done their maths and can hit that DPS threshold
We will see it is very possible that we'll see method to suck around that 20% mark for a while
If they do decide to switch over to the one tank strategy
We are also joined by a Jesse at the deskie as he has now put his headset on and it can talk to us cut
Hi, I like that you have two Tetris tops
Or one that one twice. Oh, I thought they were two two different ones
I thought the other one had a different design on it, but I like that one. It's nice. Thank you the other one is
is in all ways identical.
Oh, interesting.
Oh, so you do have two?
Yep.
And the front of it is a big plus.
That's the red cross.
It's a give blood T-shirt.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
Via Tetris.
Yeah.
That seems dangerous, because the standard blocks
that are falling from the sky.
I don't think you have to real life Tetris it.
You would be giving a lot of blood though.
Yeah, I mean, it's very dangerous.
How many people can we squash to get blood out this time?
Just do the up.
just crush it again from there but we will have some analysis coming from Jesse
as I'm sure he wants to check some values and see what's been going on with the
progress morning the guy's been doing very well it's been a incremental
increase in performance although it's like wipe wipe wipe it's better wipes if
that makes sense yeah they moved up from one ply to two ply and now they're
using those moist towelettes for their wiping so it's incrementally
improved though the course of the day hey that's technology baby yeah that
That's an advancement. I mean, Tomfay hasn't come a long way in a long time.
It's time to move forward.
I mean, bidet is the way of the future, let's be honest.
Still never used one.
Oh, you should.
They are a truly spectacular and life-changing experience.
No matter where I travel to, no one has one.
Really?
Yeah, and they're not really prominent in the UK.
So anyway, moving on from this valid subject.
When I was in Korea, they had these ones that spoke to you, and they were a lot
of fun.
In Korea, I didn't understand what they were saying, but it's a day. Yeah, but day
One of my favorite podcast called no such thing as a fish their intro tune is actually a Korean bidet speaking to you
But you can't understand what it's saying. So it just sounds really cute
It's almost sounds like a
Mind the gap sort of announcement that you would have on a like a tube station
At least it's very comforting and you can adjust the warmth
So if you have a cold, the 2D.
I'm missing out clearly.
No longer cold.
And the angle.
The angle is a big one.
Yeah, I'm missing out on this.
I'll look into it.
I'll put this in the folder with dishwashers and dogs
and put it there for a future endeavor for me
to investigate here.
We are looking at various things that Echo are doing.
I'd rather dinner table though.
Everybody's got ideas.
Everybody's throwing ideas left and right.
They're like, what about feral druid?
What about this?
DPS of this class brings this so we'd lose this bit but then if we topped it up with this then maybe
we're slightly ahead coming backwards and forwards like if we go to two if we go to a two tank setup
but we swap these other two if we use this class and this class like if we say wet brew master
feral druid so we lose the wind walker but we lose the guardian druid and then maybe this
damage happens and maybe we don't need to one tank it and then scratch going uh-huh and then
and they're like, okay, well, what if we did this
and then we move this in and Meera's is like, okay,
well, what if I do this?
So there's still so many options on the table for them
in terms of this fight.
They're all proposing suggestions
and then Scribe did the ultimate Raid Leader call.
We're not wiping them, we're damaged.
Yeah.
And it's so true, we're wiping because of Blazers,
we're wiping because of people getting knocked
by two mechanics at the same time.
There's overlaps incredibly deadly.
Seen a couple of pools get through
that first intermission,
here a couple of blazes just a little bit too hard to deal with for our raiders and I will say the
atmosphere is jovial to say everyone very happy with how the pools are going very happy with our
prog is going obviously we would like a big improvement from last night 20% was the last
pool we had that was at the end of last night but the raiders seem very comfortable with where
they are right now yeah there's still all readjustment because obviously that 20% also
also included the ability to see, you know, res people who died, but when you swap to
this stuff, you no longer have that luxury that safety net is gone because they are intentionally
having now die in order to fit that other DPS into the raid comp in order to make it
across the finish line. So they are looking for expert perfect play, which will come
with like we said earlier to the chaos into normality is all this stuff they're
looking for to try and get more room in the melee camp, which is again people
suggesting like well what if we did like boomkin yes you know boomkins doing less damage but
then we could swap the brewmaster in which might do more than the guardian because of
the gear level and then we could have one less person outside and then we've got like
wolf disco outside I mean it's there's a whole host of things that echo is discussing right
now which is minuscule tiny tweaks and once again we're not dying for any of these things
and then juju's like oh yeah but if we did we could come back rest them which we
can't do now right that is true yeah so it's just wait
said but if you don't do it this way and you only die in the last phase we don't
even need that DPS because we're over killing the boss a little bit right now.
Yeah 2% ahead are coming out of P2 I believe of where Liquid were at the
same point on their 3% pull so if you can keep some people alive for P3 and
get that damaging as well obviously it looks like the DPS check should be met
with this one tank strategy. The issue is of course keeping everyone alive
in a way that they can get their burst windows down, so push their dodging back into the boss,
the burst on the screen telling him exactly what he needs to do in the moment the blades come out,
the orbs as well from those queensbane frogs, everyone able to get away from the dark viscera.
Do you have anything for us yet, Jesse? I know I've kind of thrown to you as you are
looking at the screen, usually you give us a thumbs up, but I'm just checking.
I haven't yet, I know that you're desperate and I'm working as fast as I can.
I just, if you need guides on walk-off logs, there's a great article on Wowhead,
So you can have a read through that, it'll give you a lot of advice and tips on how to use pins and other special things.
Excellent quality analysis for you in approximately five minutes.
Okay, I'm looking forward to it.
I'm bored now, I want it.
I want it, no!
It's the good thing, right?
The analysis will be on the kill.
Won't that be great?
Because obviously with this pool going as well as it has been,
everyone's going to get topped up before we move into the intermission.
No one has died yet.
We have a combat res you can see that either above the damage reasons where it says CR one or down in the bottom where you have that
Torren roaring that shows that we have one combat res the second one comes up at four minutes thirty into the fight
We have had one death
But that's now being brought back with the ancestral protection at totem dodging through these blazes a little bit harder for Mali
Then it is for the ranges, but if you can avoid the pizza don't take a nibbly just had dinner
You should be able to get this through this one nice and clean and they do
beautiful. This is beautiful. This is absolutely beautiful for meco. This is what we need to
see in there. This needs to repeat it twice. They are demolishing this boss. And this is
what they were saying downstairs is like we're over killing right now, which is a weird place
to be at a boss that looks preposterous. From the first moment they saw it is they're
now in a position where they can realistically afford a death at the end of the fight
not before that and still make it across the finish line. But we have seen them
the last few hours fall apart here in phase two, despite the fact that mechanically it's
the same. It doesn't mean that that's phase one's easy. You know what I mean? Yes, it's
the same as phase one, but phase one is also incredibly hard as well. So if you're looking
to get into position, nice means of taking your spot there. He's fully topped. That
should be totally fine for him to survive. There's Robin going down as expected. There's
the combat rest to get him back is exactly as expected. You will always see him down
there and he's he knuckles and clicks, clicks has the ankle. But Robin has died
That's the second time we've had that where Robin is resing and wherever he's getting up
He is getting killed again very very quickly
I think the initial portal placements a couple of them were a little bit too close to each other which makes obviously getting that
Intersection where you're getting the death masks off a little bit trickier
So just really need to be very refined with that portal placement coming out of intermission one
Into phase two because otherwise you do sit in situations like this where you have the res come out
But then there's another never straight on top of where now is trying to come back up
And he has to come back up immediately because you can't be DPSing the boss because
Reza will just start targeting one of your DPS or even one of your healers in those moments
Jesse has given us the thumbs up which either means he needs to see a
Proctologist or he is ready to talk about something. I am old, but not so old that I need the bad finger yet
I mean like I've done it. Yeah from 35 onwards. I think it's a good idea
Yeah, 45 up is also good, but no jokes about it. Get yourself checked.
However, yeah, it's important. Yeah, take yourself.
Okay, so I've put together an extra slide or two on our raid plan. If we want to pull that up, we can briefly talk about any of this that we need to.
And I've got a couple of new content to add at the end.
Nice.
This is of course a chart of our overall strategy in each phase to deal with the death masks.
in phase one there are three death masks indicated by the red glow on the very first of the charges
the more difficult one everyone goes and stands on the marker two markers away from their death
mask so if you are fixated by this clone right on the right i'm not gonna bother drawing we saw
how that went yesterday if you're fixated by the clone on the right then you skip one mark
go stand on the start you're safe from every other charge and we create these intersection
points where two but never more than two clones charge through and mirrors can drag the boss
into one of them. So here's an example. They're safe in the middle, chill here in the smiley face,
Mirrod drags the boss here to this intersection, two death masks go through, and then the remaining
three, this is of course if we had five in phase three, will automatically go through the boss
when they resolve the second charge and the safe spot to move to the intersectional spaces. Now,
everyone in chat wondering what's going on with bananas. The banana call being made.
Roger, of course, very, very fond of fruit-based code words.
Those who've been watching this thing for a very long, long time will remember pineapple,
which is code for the side of the room opposite of the door.
That's what that means. Can't use that call again, so we're using banana.
Banana means push your macros, because what they're doing is,
if you are targeted, there are five people, targeted by assassination, it is a private aura.
We can't just use a weak aura to detect that debuff and assign things out.
So instead, as you get that debuff on you as a private aura,
You push a macro that says, I have this.
Banana flashes up on the screens of every single evoker,
and the evokers are assigned via that weak aura
to grab each of them, one of these debuffs,
to take to their location.
Partially that's good, they can just stand and cast,
and then they'll get joined over to where
they're supposed to go, but it's also good
because it gives them this amazing twin guardian absorb.
So four evokers drag their banana
to the space where they're supposed to drop the void,
and then one unlucky fellow wide walks to their final position.
That boom? That is a boom-can-icon, of course, because you're...
Yeah.
You know, walking.
Now, this is actually very, very clever tech, because if we switch over to some Warcraft logs,
this is the best pull, and you can see that merely grabbing and moving people for that has done
32 million healing, which is of course a lot in a fight where people are dying to burst damage all the time,
and we can actually drill down on this a little bit by going to the damage taken.
This is damage taken from the assassination, that's when the void is placed upon each person,
and you can see how much of that hit is being absorbed on everyone selected for the assassination.
Basically obviating the hit entirely, making it significantly easier to top them
from the subsequent Queen's Bane damage.
So the absorb is the bit that isn't as bright?
Correct! Correct! And an excellent point, we can actually drill down a little bit further
if you want. Well look at the dents. Let's see how this pull is going right now and then after that
I'll see Spilling. After they wipe in P1 we can come back to you Jesse. Yep we will return to
being drilled by Jesse in just a few moments as they take those positions like Jesse just parted
out that's where they're going to across from their targeted location in order to create this
pattern which makes it very easy for now to move the boss into position he just did his
scheduled to death there right on time in order to get back up and re-tank the boss before it kills
anybody because there's actually relatively a lot of downtime with this boss. We said earlier,
it's like on the PTR, they were one tanking it as well. Several guilds discovered you could kind
of one tank this, especially if you weren't living more than 20 seconds, which people weren't
doing on the PTR in this fight. There's two stacks of the two death mass going through the
boss giving her a 20% damage buff, which will exist for two overlapping mechanics. So you
You get the daggers during this damage buff,
and you get the Queensbane detonation.
So it's perfectly timed by Blizzard,
so that you give it a buff,
and then she unleashes the entire room of Garbo
all over your face.
And you can see they drop this Rift
right next to where they're gonna be,
just so they can maintain full uptime on the boss
and also group their players in a really, really tight space,
making healing astronomically easier
to go into the intermission.
Especially for something like an evoker,
where you're using dream breath,
you're using things that target around you,
it just makes it so much simpler for you
if everyone's at the top of each other in golf as well,
is a burst of AOE healing.
So you want everyone there.
We then saw everyone start to move out
before the intermission started,
getting to your positions.
You want to be straddling these pizza slice lines,
very well demarcated by Blizzard as well for you.
You can use the lines on the floor,
step back, avoid all of the blazers,
rice and fools, every little bit of the top dot,
just in time.
That must be like 11% HP.
But we are into phase two once again.
Consistency is key.
both in working out and in boss fights and so far it's been very consistent from Echo after their lunch break.
Yeah, coming out of that so healthy like they were fully topped coming out of that it was perfectly done.
I messed up a rift.
Yeah, and then guys that is absolutely not my fault, right?
I mean I stopped talking and then they messed up and you were talking during that time.
It was very good till that point.
Flaw, Flaw, Flaw, Flaw, Flaw, Flaw.
Can't believe Mike's in the room with me for 5 seconds and talking about feet again.
I can't believe they did that so well and then scuffed it entirely.
I mean, I can believe...have you not been watching?
I'm sure that was a becore.
Yeah, oh yeah, 100%... we'll blame it on bananas.
100% blame it on bananas.
It slipped on the peel.
If you eat a banana, you get...radiated, right?
Because they're all irradiated anyway.
It's like having an x-ray or something, if you eat 10 of them I think.
I mean, who's eating 10 bananas?
Pfft...
Monkeys.
I did have three the other day.
Yeah, I had two.
Yeah, I had three bananas the other day.
But you didn't swallow, right?
I mean, I don't need to.
No. I always do.
Yeah?
Slips right down from me, one bite.
I was sticking my nose.
Smudged it everywhere.
Explains a lot.
I'll send you a picture later.
Yeah, please.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's more of a custard.
Mm-hmm.
But it's a play that we want for Echo to solve.
I think Jesse has an analysis if you want to go.
We had come about to the end of it.
I was just going to drill down into the logs and show everybody exactly what those absorbs were.
We can do that if we want.
Oh, 100%.
It doesn't look like we're pulling right now.
So we were talking about how the Twin Guardian talent from the Evokers allows them to rescue someone,
providing both the Evoker and the target person a very, very substantial shield.
And that absorbs and basically obviates the damage from the assassination dropping that Void puddle,
which is very good because they then take a big dot from the Queensbane.
We can actually go in and look at events, if you guys want.
Let me scroll so you can see.
Click on this events button and you can see exactly what happens with each hit
So we can actually look at one if we want right here just by selecting it
So the assassination hit for a total of 1.2 million after a 3.67 million absorb
Provided by a combination of both the twin guardian and his own soul leech buff
That's why it's so particularly valuable a good three quarters two-thirds of the hit
nullified assuming they go to the right place and and what they've also been
doing of course you have to go to the right place but they've also been doing
is four of the five people targeted by assassination get that huge chunky shield
the fifth one gets an external lesson sacrifice or time dilation from one of
the vokers or something like that now they're doing everything they can so you
make life easier because the healers are doing God's work here honestly it
is as much as we keep going on about the sheer amount of HP on Kai
As a it's the healers that have got the problem clicks has gone down, but he has got Ankh available
He will be able to get back up at this point in the poll usually he would do how he's waiting
I don't know if that's some sort of issue on his end. There he goes
He's back up now. He's just waiting for the targets to go off
So he would not be targeted by the charge while starting on low HP because that is really not a good idea in this fight
Especially remember this fight executes you if you book drop below 10% HP is not about just dying
it's about dropping low
Which is really risky and why we get a little terrified when we see people floating around that 12% HP mark like rising was last pull
Because 2% more of the HP and she'll just kill you
It's you for 10.3 million. I believe it is. What back it's the intermission
Very nice combat res is available and that means I've said that and they're doomed. Yeah double blaze
Dancing shoes on Fred Astaire magic here from nice memes
He's able to dodge to the side of these blazes gets another one on him double stack that parallel lines easy enough for the melees
So far, but we're about to move into that point where we get blazes on everyone
And that has been tripping up a few people recently
Those are positioning good everyone low, but they're going to be topped up
And we have a little bit of time before we move into the second phase. You can see that damage going down once again
We are at about sixty six a half
Yeah, it's it's tricky to track as you can track as soon as the blazes go where we were at 67
Or you can track when these nether rifts come down again or at least when that car starts in which case we were about
66 and a half 65 or so we'll move into this second phase
They have been losing people early in phase two, but those are some good rifts. Yeah, those well placed now
Should be dying any second now
We'll be waiting for that is going to come as they top the healing off and get ready for the next part
This is the bit where they've been struggling in this phase too and I mean by struggling getting through it with everybody alive
Perfect position there from hopeful doing the blink
There goes Robin and the combat res will be going out on him immediately. There we go back to full health
hanging out here with his queensbane trying desperately make to make sure
It does not go through the group. He made the right play there and going out to make sure the queensbane wouldn't kill anybody else
And giving up his own life for it a little unfortunate for hopeful there, but again the correct play
Yeah, no one in range to save him really either after you dash all the way out there.
He did wait.
Yeah, he did wait for the heal.
Just tricky to assign those as quickly as you can in those situations.
It's a half a second, like seven tenths of a second that you're really looking for here.
We might be getting into the second intermission with only hopeful down combat res.
Oh, that queen's bait.
It's fine. It's fine. It's okay.
Miss Karius.
Another combat res up in 50 seconds time.
And that might be a need to be saved for now though, because Klicks used his Ankh right
at the start of the fight, right?
Yeah, Robin needs to die at least one more time for this to be possible.
That has to happen, so they'll be holding and waiting on this situation.
So they're going to get into this blaze first week.
I don't think, not cursing them here, I think they are playing the game.
Just stop it, I don't think.
No, I'm thinking something.
Okay.
Puppies, puppies, cute little kittens, Christmas on its way too.
Oh no!
They can read our minds.
Okay it's only banner, he's useless anyway, right?
Right, only two million HPS off him so far but we know we need to save that combat resin.
We've already used clicks his uncle earlier on in the fight.
So progression pull from here on out a huge amount of weight put on the healers to keep everyone topped up
which are doing well so far, but this is where that damage really starts sticking.
You have the nether rifts coming out once again. You can see half HP on a lot of our players already.
They'll be topped up. Then we'll have the charges after this suck. Now we'll
manage to keep this up alive, but now Wexie down as well. It's here.
Now we'll fall in a moment, but that's a predicted death as we see these charges coming through.
We have Wexie and Hopeful down. Now we'll pull the boss.
Yeah
Downsoul as well as Jinji all fall
Not sure what caused that multi-death there less because the risks look to be pretty solid
We're gonna look at that G when it comes back. Yeah, but they're gonna be chilling
They're gonna be going into intermission three soon ish
They should be the healers are up. I mean we might see a new best, but like it doesn't really mean anything
But
Third intermission, I think that does mean something like consistently being able to get there even with a few people
dead is a big deal, but the percentage of the boss doesn't mean too much right?
They don't care, it's irrelevant. I don't blame them for this, it's like what's the point in putting up a
new best HP on a boss we can't kill? There's really no point, so they could have easily just like
chug a chug a chug a chug a long way. Wasted time getting a new percentage.
Yeah it's not relevant, the boss isn't going to die, we're not competing to be on the scoreboard
of percentage. Yes and there's nothing to see as well, often we'll see on like pulls,
they will deliberately keep their tanks alive for as long as possible, keep doing as much as they can,
just to see more of the boss fight, to see more of the phase. We saw a lot on pre-twister, right?
But here, we've seen the whole fight. We saw the whole fight in P1 pretty much. It's just at the end
that we need to get to with everyone still alive, but still consistency coming out from Echo.
Jesse, do you have any reaction for us? Yeah, it was like three people dying on the third
phase. I haven't looked at that poll yet, but I was taking a look at what we all expected
Ryzen to die on the previous pull. He was at 5.6% but what happened was a flash
he'll landed exactly 0.032 seconds after he took the extra
regicide hit and the Reaper didn't go through. Interesting so there's a cost
time on Reaper basically. Well he's just old and doesn't have that good a
reaction time. Unlike Bryson, who reacted in 30MS. Or was pre-casting.
It happens to be casting a spell at the same time. Which is correct, he was about to get hit,
so he was casting that spell and then it landed there. So that's interesting, there is probably
a half second cast on it or something like that. A secret cast, we can't see it, but yes,
there is something there. Because we've seen a few times people who yo-yo extremely quickly,
not getting killed, but if they do linger there for like half a second or something,
then they do die. So, forgiving Blizzard. That's generous!
Oh, what a gift that Blizzard have provided to us. I was wondering as well, Jesse, something
I don't know if Mike knows. I'm not going to put you on the spot because that feels unfair,
Jesse's the analyst. Is there a cooldown on Unk? Like, could you Unk twice in a fight?
There is a long cooldown on Unk. In fact, it varies depending on whether you're taking
a talent which reduces the cooldown of Unk when it's on cooldown, but it's a very long
cooldown and you typically can't onk more than once every few pulls, not less
more than once a fight. You don't even have it available every pull. Yeah I
thought it was like 20 minutes originally. The exception is Ancestral Protection
totem which we call onk totem. That has a five minute cooldown. Oh so you could use it
twice enough. Interesting. But we have two shamans. So can they both use it?
Only rest of shamans can put the talent into the onk totem. That is a very good
thing to know. Yes. Yeah. So, what we'll see is Ankh Totem Combat Res, Ankh Totem, which
does give us one Combat Res, three, later. But it's too late in the fight for most of
these pulls. It's going to be late, late on, where we can take advantage of that. Yeah,
because in my head, it was so much easier. You know, you have two Ankh Totems, a simple
visit, and two Combat Reses, you know? But yeah, at the moment, it is just the
three assigned revivals and then one spare one at 430 if we get to that point and you know
we haven't seen anyone else need that res now down he'll be back up with that ancestral protection
totem now everyone needs to dodge the daggers zuts he's falling he can unk himself complex the
shawans yep to sacrifice themselves for our causes guys the shawans are up and down up and
They're working in those stair masters every step of the way, but that's okay because nobody can tell right?
And we still have a combat res available thumbs up. Yep, having used a single res this fight
Absolutely, just like pull as you back out of the ground combat time 112. We definitely have a two deaths
What they do to make that work is they of course on totem the first Robin death and then after he comes back up
Benzero puts a soul stone on him so he can instantly self-res after the second death.
That makes sense. Rather than rely on a cast time that in which the boss might melee somebody.
Yeah, we've got Ryzen dead just on the edge of the safe zone. Maybe cut a little bit out of
position there. He was right on the tippy tippy edge. So we've sent the combat res there
and so it's going to be a little bit of a problem later. They might be worth doing a
taunt plate onto one of the DPS in order to maybe get them up later on. Like I said,
we are mathematically kind of over killing it all but not by much believe me we're not like it's
maybe a percent or something like that uh but that's assuming everything else goes absolutely
swimmingly which this pool obviously is yeah 100% no worries here whatsoever god melee have such a rough
time every time it always amazed me when we see fights like this you think about your
holonguses you think about your pharax where the melee i have to accept that their life
is hell on earth. We can swap to hopeful who is literally like lying in a meadow and a hammer.
I have to go left and I have to go right. It's very stressful. And the melee, I'm just like,
ah! Ah! My face! Ah! Recall going back. I don't know if you've still got the meme of Klicks at
Holandrus. I think we watched Roger just kind of running around, shooting things, blah,
blah, blah. And then Klicks was diving on the floor. He was grabbing grenades.
Oh yeah, I remember this. He was throwing them. He was like, fuck off. He killed himself,
Resed himself was healing himself try to keep everything. Okay. We did lose Frago augment down
Which means we won't have as many banana macros for this opportunity people unfortunately gonna have to walk over
As we just lost who's that?
Yeah
That boy narco down. He's died a couple of times in p2. I wonder if I was
Taunted. Oh he taunted save now. Yeah. Yeah makes sense save now
Well, that's good keeps now alive good call on that one
And means that we can use that aren't later on or the soul stone to bring now back up because obviously we had to use the combat
Rez on
Rison earlier on Fraggo though down alongside Narko and soul hunt soul hunt
Topping the damage charts in a lot of the fights not so much today
But yesterday was really pumping out the DPS on that hunter
So again a progression pull here for echo just making sure they get used to six minutes of this
which is a long time to have to be this alert and be playing at this intensity.
Yeah, I'm surprised that they are carrying on these kind of polls, but there's also an argument to be made that constant like one minute resets
gets real old real fast and could cause you to lose a lot of focus.
I wonder what your thoughts are on this as well, Jesse, is like they're obviously not going to kill it now and there is nothing else for them to learn.
As far as we know, unless they're implementing something that we're not aware of,
but is it just a case of beaboo or engaged with the game?
It is that and practice is valuable the reason they're dying is insufficient practice getting those reps in is worthwhile
And it is a good thing for morale to occasionally go to two
Second to third phase so you can see it remain remember how that works practice it and
Feel like you're making progress instead of constantly wiping in phase one. Yeah, I also think because you're having a vocal down. There's a
Discussion for is it good to practice not being able to use the macro because what if on the God pull
one of our Roka falls, the macro goes in, banana is called, and I'm standing there like
why am I not being rescued, and Fraggo is the one who is assigned to me. So we'll see if
they get these rifts in the right position. They do. Now try and pull Kireza up towards
the top side of the fight, get another rift down, Fraggo, Sohan, Xero, Narko and Flex
have all fallen. But again, good positioning on this, dodging away from those orbs as
well. It's relatively clean, apart from the people that are dying in some of those
cross over. We're going to be seeing the combat res coming in in a moment for Robin. As expected,
there he goes. Bye bye. And they should be getting back on body's feet. There it is.
Wait for after the blades. Yeah, if you're wondering why they weren't resing anybody
else while a combat res is available, because that one is pre-assigned to Robin. So we are
getting to the end of the fight yet again. The really, really horrific part is about to
happen. So they've placed that rift. It's a little juicy location, that's okay. They're
going to now put the rest of the death mask. Last time we actually got here, if you remember,
They didn't do it. Yeah, they failed and the deathmars blew up and killed them all they got it
There you go
The three stacks are on that is now permanent so the boss now does a permanent 30% more damage
Onto the raid so very I mean not like it's not important elsewhere
But if you get hit by anything here, you're just doomed. Yeah, Jinji that it was just
Teetering on that 10% box where he was marked for death and brought down as they go into their final intermission
Which it looks like they're gonna let them play out and just have fun guys
You know have a pull way you play out and see how it goes. I'm sure they've simmed it
But is there an argument for seeing how much damage you can put out before you die in this situation just seeing like with
5 DPS dead, how much damage do we actually get to the endless night?
It's also really good to just practice trying to heal this phase with 30% extra damage taken from every single
Regicide, it's just very very valuable practice for the healers
I'm not sure what happened there, but the second the institution starts even for the blaze came in now both
Both Ryzen and Mastin were just eradicated off the face of the earth.
Really not sure what caused that nice meme giggling to himself.
It's like, hey guys, I'm still alive.
And there's Enrage!
That's the end.
And it's the Eternal Knight.
You can see the damage going down.
So it's about 4% of boss HP they took there with quite a few dead between the start
of P...well, start of Intimation 3 and the beginning of that Enrage, that Eternal
night through the entire raid, Skype taking a second thinking about it. It's weird because
from the outside looking in, it does feel very much like a, we just have to avoid the
unavoidable deaths or the avoidable deaths, right? Just have to try and make sure we survive
through these positions that are going to be quite hard to survive through. However,
there are micro strategies, there are small things that can be changed that can
alter the way the fight plays out. And that's what Skype's looking for. Because
You can't just ask for 12 hours a day your raiders to play perfectly.
You need to put every redundancy in place for mistakes that they might make
to make sure you have your healing cooldowns in the right place.
You have to make it as easy as possible for them to play as the 0.01% can play.
Yeah, everything is assessed or constantly reassessed, assessed again.
Particularly in the intermission, where you're stood in blaze,
where you're stood in the intermission is a vital impulse
because obviously you've seen the blaze lines, they have the vertical, the horizontal, you can have the diagonals, it's like, okay, well we can pre-plan for that.
So what if this goes like this, and this goes like this, is you need to be at show there in the exact position so that if all those players in that area get a really bad one, it's like you should still be okay.
If all the melee get this particular one, it's all pointing at each other, you should still be okay, also while maintaining boss uptime.
Everything here has been like
Considered to the point. Yeah, it's like happen. I mean I feel reasonably confident in this Jesse
Is that the things that they're dying to are things that can be avoided?
It is you know, it's a queen's bane. It's not really we have seen a couple of people die to like the dots, right?
They'll maybe so hopefully yeah
He's chilling is like, please heal me because I'm going to die when this goes off
I have nothing left and then he ultimately he was like, okay, I've got a blink out and died there
We have a few of those but like
You're right. Something like 60 to 70% of the initial deaths are caused by getting hit by either the daggers, those lines firing out from the boss and the clones, or by the viscera, which are the balls.
That is a huge number of the deaths. And then in the intermission, most of the deaths aren't necessarily due to mistakes with the regicide.
Just the fact that instead of getting clipped by too many, it's more commonly failure to correctly time your health stones, health potions, and personal's to avoid getting below 10% as you get hit by the correct number of them.
Which is always going to be tricky.
Yes, because you are on a knife edge. You can't use extra personal's because they're needed later on in the fight. You don't have those cooldowns left up.
We saw Canix there sitting in a key. It looked like it was a plus nine hour cara. He's trying to trade for the polearm.
If you have a Mythic plus 9 Arakara, you can find him on the dungeon finder, Echo plus
9 Yorkey, prefer trade polearm.
I'm gonna say definitely trade polearm if it drops.
Please help Canex.
Please help Canex.
It's the only way we'll let him back into the raid.
The barrel dream might be on the menu.
Anyone without a polearm isn't allowed in.
That's the rule.
Dreams dead.
We need Canex to come back and say they killed Brutes with some Canex.
They did there was a bit more aoe on that fight than there is in this fight
I'm gonna put that out there a key cat can go raw kitty cat can go raw
That would be we add in an extra melee we'd probably switch to mirrors brewmaster
It would be mirrors brewmaster and melee either out
or
Yeah, you trade swag, but maybe you want to get another range in but the tanks can
So a couple of some of them can stand on top of each other
Like you could also go with some sort of two-tanky thing where they stand on each other
They would talk about that downstairs so that blaze lines don't get more filled in the melee
If you're good enough and you've got some classes have very long range with melees that you can go quite far out as you can
You know, it's it's mid tier. It's not range, but you know, you can go mid and it's not that bad
There's lots of opportunities here, especially if they feel they have a little DPS flexibility
Yeah, to make life easier because it's like what is actually the main problem right now is over crowding
It could be and if you're asking the echo melee players to have downtime
It's not gonna happen
They don't live by that they don't live by that code
No, they don't live by that code
So they have a ton of choices available to them for a little changes and micro changes
They want to make that may make life easier. Do you know what this gate is for?
Which gate the little one so if nice means stops looking this here at town
Wallock gate? Yeah, there's a tiny wallock gate. There's like the smallest little gate
I've seen and it's they put it down every time
I don't know if it's just a mess around before they do the thing
It's far that wallock I believe because it's next to his telephone
So it's for them to skip around during blaze. Oh interesting. Yeah, because it's faster. I mean it is faster
It's just it seems like a very small
Yeah, it's like over the separation. So that's where your pizza slices come out
So that's for zero to hop backwards and forwards during the intermission phase and just
This is what you meant maxing this is one quarter of a second of movement. Yep. Every time I do it
Yeah, jumping back and forth it makes sense and it's working for him so far
Although we have seen him fall a couple of times in the fight
Obviously not many other uses force just him everyone else
I'm mentally tracking who dies first, you know, I have Narko on my list
I have zero on my list and I have rice in on my list. Those are the three that I see die often, and I'm not saying it's their fault
You're saying the trash. I'm just saying their trash
Put them in the back replaceable. Yeah
That's what they are
There was only there to summon anyway. We know that's
Stone and leave get out of there. I don't care if you do really nice damages
I love that they still even at this stage, you know hundreds more than 70 pulls deep still checking talents
Maybe you said you said rice in who else rice in
Narko and Zeruo were the ones I'd noticed right? Can you just agree with me even if I'm wrong?
I'm going to confirm that you have a relatively good sense of what's going on just from mental tracking, which is fairly impressive
Rice in one of the first three to die just
2.8 percent of the time
Louza that's good zero right on par one of the first three to die five percent of the time
Yeah, narco 5.4% okay, so who are baddies?
Obviously, this is all overlaps obviously Robin. Yeah
Okay, that actually I think we should track from before the tank is deliberately tight
Otherwise, it just use the numbers so much. Yeah, obviously Robin doesn't count here because he's doing a perfect
There was a guy who was kicked from our guild on the Zoth where I was intentionally die. I was doing something similar to Robin
Uh
Shut the locks and he's like you're dying more than Mike who's intentionally
The good news is no one is dying more than Robin. Do you would you care to venture a guess?
It's any mental tracking as to which class or player is the least dyingist in the rain. Oh the sturdiest
Uh, I kind of want to give a shout out to the majors
I mean there's a lot of them evokers. Oh right on the money with both Macyn and
Fraggo at the top of the list for living is the mostest. Yeah not this time.
Literally the worst time to have pulled that out. Fraggo is still alive.
Not I've gone worse as Thana just tanked that ratio right into the floor immediately.
This is a fun game. Okay let's pick another one and then we'll immediately die.
Okay, who are we killing next? Wait, there needs to be a poll first and then we'll...
Well, we need to say who is the least dying. So you know the least dying is
Maboker with a the only perfect record never being in the first three deaths.
Okay. Then comes Frago dying in the first three deaths once. Then comes...
Mike knows the answer to this. Who's the most consistent player?
I think Revez correct yeah make sense yeah I mean he's a machine that's built
he's just built different let's have a rather a Revez POV and praise be this
his holiness of the destroyer of bosses consistently no matter what happens
Revez just shows up and slams so I was doing for years I think Revez is about
78 years old yeah that's my theory because we've never seen him in person
He's never come to any event. He's been here for years. He always rocks
I guarantee he sits there with a cigar a pint of bitter
Yeah, and he just like kill it boss
Designed for the purpose of playing warrior not sure we're allowed to admit that
Wait, I was just shooting into the echo stream and they're saying some of their players are actually AI bots
slinging out spells in this sort of position.
Oh, you.
Oh, you.
You.
You.
You.
And that's a bad mess.
That's a bad mess.
Every commentator's dream is to descend into that.
We all dream of it.
Alex and I did it off-mic yesterday.
And I was so thankful we weren't hot mics.
Oh, no, we've done it for days on stream.
The problem is a lot of the Mitchell and Webb,
it goes down a route to it.
It's like, I can't say this sarcastically
on the internet without someone
I'm thinking I'm being realistic, and of course we know Revers having problems at home recently.
But didn't he look good in that sights underwear?
He did. Of course. Spotted him up, that's what I'm saying.
He's all that trouble.
Just all these implications of bad things happening.
But now Revers are fine.
The number of the AI gameplay and his so far as code is working perfectly. Yep
Bug free all those ones and zeros coming to the four four Revers
Yeah, I'm good positioning this fight. Oh downtime. Wow. Watch how quick he gets back though
Can't go too quickly now you can see rice over there whereas Revers
You see me had to dive look and dive like John Wick through there and he was fine
That's a reset and he's also resetting the boss. What a player. What a game or what a
player with a little feather in his cap. You can't reset during intermission.
Oh, we're at this. Intuition started. We're still not going to die even though it's a reset.
I refuse to fall. We'll reset afterwards. It's fine, guys. This phase from melee viewers is awful.
But right now he doesn't have to damage the boss, right? So you can actually
experienced what it's like for a ranged player for a little while he could have
stood at the back instead of going to practice being near the front like a
true hero run straight back into the thick of it that where he belongs and
now he's resetting the boss what a guy built different that's Reves that's
Reves there he is probably not the best highlight of his skills we've ever
seen literally any time we cut to his POV all these life honestly we have an
internal rule echo not to show him too much because it looks bad for
everybody else yeah yeah because he's always doing that yeah every single time
he's doing that he's bouncing like a basketball he's at the top of the damage
means that he's doing good things so you agree Jesse that is always correct yeah
I do agree I have a nice little bit to show you based on your observation
about the tiny gateway if you'd like to see what's there was actually doing yet
they do have a ready check maybe we want to wait until after this fall I
quickly show it okay this is this is an admission text so we have Revis POV
I'm sorry zero pre POV up on the review tour now
So he's in the middle as he's supposed to be he portals out
And then of course starts running back and forth as needed to dodge this pizza slice
With minimal movements very very clean like to see it and then when one of them is this there it is
little bit of hop
Getting to the cast off. It's so cute. It's the tiniest teleport ever, but it gets him an extra global
that one global
Any of you doing that you don't belong in a race to love first because that's our echo roll
I mean that is true, but if any of you try and do that in any raid I'm in you are getting kicked immediately
I'm sorry, on Annihilation you do not need to put down the gateway
Gateway probably goes somewhere really cool
Let me go through, oh no it's dead
I'm certainly not checking where it goes
I've got a special button
Clicky click, clicky click
They had a thing like that where obviously you can rescue people and you can gateway people so I'd get the end of ledges
but there was a bomb or a consumable that you could switch positions with someone.
Oh yeah, a SWAT blaster.
That is my least favourite item in the game.
As a streamer, it is particularly horrendous.
As a new player and as a streamer, when people recognise who I am, they're like,
ooh, time for SWAT blaster!
Yeah, a guy was nearly kicked from our guild from it, actually, for using it too much.
Was it you?
It was not, actually. I have a SWAT blaster, but I have not used it in raids,
because I find it inappropriate.
And then I believe Alex threatened to kick them
if they did it again
and he swapped blasted Alex off a ledge in response.
I mean, that's a 100% worth.
I'm doing a turn.
Educated.
It was just that kind of guilt.
Yeah.
It was the way we did it.
It's swooping behind.
You can get a lot of parries on this boss.
Kind of hard to see where the front is.
You're following the parts, the pets.
And obviously you do not want to be parried.
So you do need to make sure
the tank is going in position.
See Reves taking absolute maximum use out that downtime again moves out in order to set off these Queen's Banes in a safe
Pan look at that completely avoiding everybody in the middle
Thana been taken down again
So the res has gone out on to Thana to getting back up as they head into the intermission
That means they are once again
Probably Narko is going to be sacrificing themselves to the devil itself in order to keep Robin alive when we come out
We shall see how that goes for them
Yeah, everyone gonna be topped up before we move into that first intermission soul falling low
But he's gonna be okay the daggers come out dodge everything and
As the daggers go down we see the orbs going
Wide have one more suck and then we'll move into the intermission
We're tracking it about 64 and a half is the best coming out of intermission
But anywhere around that 66 to 64 mark is very good for echo and would lead to them
Overkilling the boss if they all stayed alive and kept doing exactly the same amount of damage
For the rest of the fight here. We are in intermission and
Sol's got a gun so he is a little bit more safe than everyone else
Look how comedy is for ranged. Right I go left shoot my gun dodge back
Hit by the base healer healer, please
So easy really don't know anybody dies this is so
I love that he plays with zero right
Yeah, I was trying to look at the very best, like who cares, you know?
He doesn't care what the 100 are gonna do.
All I need to know is my pets HP.
Yep, and everybody is alive, so we will be seeing a sacrifice coming up on Robin's behalf.
It'll be on the charge.
Uh, Lynn a little while. Let's hope they can put these in the right position.
We've got Mae Volker is doing the rescue 3-2. There it is.
Uh, the Volker's spread them out and they're gonna tundle out.
If you don't get picked, you're not one of the chosen few.
Uh, you guys can play with it.
Uh, now moving out in order to make sure they can set their Queens Banes.
Nicely around this hexagonal formation in the middle straight back in nice heels up now
Here's the charges, so we will be seeing somebody getting eradicated here
Who is the chosen one? It's narco
There you go, and now Robin gets to live yay
Really cool, so that is the issue and it's nice interesting way for progress is that they've decided to do this
Is maybe okay come down?
that red frame.
We lost Mayvoker as well so that's one of our healers down for the next, oh no he's playing
Dev, isn't he?
He's like, oh is he playing Orc?
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay, one of our Orcs down.
So it lost to Grip realistically.
There will be a spare combat res coming up because they can arc totem the next time
Robin needs to die which will be the next insubmission along the way from here to
be sure.
So they can keep pushing forward, it's not ideal obviously to have two DPS dead
in a DPS check boss, that's generally mathematically a bad play.
Yeah, and we do have Combat Res up in a minute's time, so if no one...
Oh no!
Did Robin stand in the portal there?
Yeah, I think he placed it and then walked back through it.
I wonder if he moved in a way that got him hit very, very hard, that took him below the 10%.
Uh-huh, and I didn't finish the sentence of,
if no one dies for the next minute, we can res.
Now, thoughtfully, it doesn't need to tank.
Yep.
We're actually kind of okay for a while.
We have to survive through this intermission, and then probably a couple of seconds outside of it,
because I think the intermission is 20 seconds long and we need 30 seconds of time.
to get that combat Rez up. Robin is down, four other players join him.
Clicks can get up, but he's not going to get up during the intermission.
That's not going to happen, because it's too risky.
I think he actually got mellied when Robin died, so the boss just turned around and put
him in the nose, which is a classic situation, many of us have been in there.
The intermission is over, so they're going to be reset in 9 seconds.
Can they type in 9 seconds?
Keep kiting.
Nice meme, just doing God's work right now.
Just doing so much work, he gets away.
He does. Rez up now.
And then the tants came from War Life.
Now's back, there we are.
Oh, War Life not quite able to give you a life
could have done with a secondary tants
from maybe Reves, but Reves.screwtrial.
I'm the hero here.
Wait, is Clicks just not anchoring at all?
No, because now the portals are absolutely
all over the damn place.
I guess during, oh, okay, everyone's dead.
Okay, okay.
That's just, it shows the punishment that you get.
If you have one person go down early
and you have to use that combat res,
no one else can make a mistake
the entirety of it and you are still sacrificing Narko at the altar of Kiversa saying here's our
sacrifice please allow us to get into B3. Yeah it's a bold play to even continue the pull at that
point they know they're going to have to do something like kiting running around and you do not want
this boss out of position for any reason whatsoever. There's also a silly shenanigans that needs to
be done but it's not helpful by any means but we are looking to they are getting better we're
We're seeing consistently getting phase two and three in the last hour or so using the strategy
Will they change something hard to say?
Fana is still dead
I wonder if he's actually died a couple of times the last couple of polls when we found some sort of issue
They were talking about mini lags downstairs at dinner. They were asking people
He's still getting these me like not something we've noticed
But the players were saying they are getting a little bit of a connection issue or something like that
that's causing some issues.
It can also be an add-on issue.
We saw massive FPS problems when we were on Blue Twister.
So, yeah.
True.
All right.
Is it the same, Justin?
Apparently, it was found that some of the other players
in the guild were moving currency between characters.
Cause when that, for some reason,
spaghetti code underneath the code,
was causing everyone in the raid to lag out.
Oh, wait.
When the currency was sent from character to character.
The warbond to count share.
Yeah, it's exactly.
So the call is going out, please stop.
sending your currency to other characters while we're raiding.
Thank you very, very much.
They're always raiding.
Like what am I supposed to do?
Well, leave the guild.
Yes, get out.
Yeah, leave the guild.
We don't want you.
That would literally be the better solution here.
Anyone that isn't in the actual raid has to leave the guild.
Well, if they're all swapping currency,
like some sort of goblins, or I'm
running some sort of Wall Street at the back end.
I don't know.
There is betting on the pool counts.
Mira's part is big coat full of watches.
Yeah.
Do you want to buy a watch?
Some good quality German merch over it. What is our boy doing? Well, this is just outside Donegal. He's doing his dailies
I think this is the daily where you ride a ram or you become a ram and then you eat the grass
Better than touching it
Yeah
Here I probably I'm gonna do that. Yes. Give me a sweet reward. I mean it you fill out your
I can't really talk. I mean for years now and the rest of you have done the same
We have had our hands in literal poop looking for keys many many times
If they blizzard tells you to do it and it'll give you some sweet rep or a sweet reward
We will do pretty much anything without an understanding the context because in game
I'm just clicking the thing on the floor, right?
That is what I'm doing to get things done
There's actually a real person behind your clicks every click you put in someone on as a what is doing that action
Like I can imagine that would be like same in Baldur's Gate you there was a real child that died to your acid in
Baldur's Gate a real scratch
that was
Hummelled with a mace a real owl bear
That had to watch as you slammed it into its mother's face
She shouldn't have attacked me
It was her own fault. She's defending a kid man. I am very calm until you attack me and then
And you know you brought this on yourself and I don't see why I should be a blame for this like
That's not right
That's not right. You can't come into my house and do those guys you just you went into their house
Yeah, but I had loot in there
No matter which way you twist this I'm correct
But as the guys are getting ready for one more pull we are going to be
Yeah, I think we are we were meant to do one more pull
But the ready checks is taking a little bit too much time
So I think maybe we all we can listen in with wave and then we'll have the new cast to pair on indeed
We got some fresh blood coming in for you, but it has been a tremendous morning from me and mr. Medic
We've had a good time obviously we're always hoping for the kill, but that was a bit wishful thinking
I've never had a mythic kill it will happen
Maybe it will happen. I leave on Friday, so you need to get better at the game to start killing
Oh, they pulled quick. They pulled. Let's do the poll. No, we want to pull
Give us the pole. Give it to us. This is gonna be a really good pills. Paul Sam. Have you heard of the last pull buff?
That's what's happening right here. They just don't know it yet. Okay. We gig a curse this by the way
This is super cursed
What's the punishment gonna be make me cast League of Legends
Three days early. Oh look. Oh god, that was dark
Well, let's see if we can find out as we listen in with Wave.
now
where's that yeah
into the void
oh no the wards reset
just actually don't second check it
ah
it's fine
here we go again
holy
I might pre-port here so don't pre-port before me
okay I'm pre-port
I'm gonna pre-port the pre-port
me first I want my cloak proc
this was too early
We're spanking banana
Missed one Narko's PC died
And it sounded like a demon
On triple healer
512 you are PC working hard
Holy
Why?
I might get a double
5 going far
We're in the boss after this
Let's not fuck up the first mechanic guys
It's rough
Yeah, I mean it's seriously
I don't know, yeah the rescue has been not, I have been stealing a lot of polls, yeah.
It is very nice, but I don't know, you were making this too hard for ourselves.
I mean, people need it for the person, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just not, I mean, not everyone needs it always.
I don't know.
Yeah, of course it's nice.
It's just not dying is also nice.
I'm not messing up the mechanic
Is there like a macro or something that makes it easy?
Is one of the workers like chilling hard and not sharing info or something?
Is any of you like clueless like how can you mess this up?
I don't know, because from the outside we have no fucking clue
Is this the hard one?
It's on the hard to min-max, but to them you like PCD
Okay
Have anyone disagrees? Discuss it with Mason and figure out what he's doing different I guess, I don't know.
I don't know, I'm focusing on it, I'm chilling out at least.
Hey, respecting it then?
I'm going to rank and range, then I rank.
I'm going far, with marker charges coming.
Watching feats, the healers go ahead and watch it.
Beed and Orbs coming
In middle charges soon
through the middle
watching feet
and watching Orbs
Okay we can res him
Intermission position soon
Holy
What is that? Is that TD or something?
Is this one thing?
One the wrong side
Yeah
Chalk about that
I was ready
And check my duff
There he is
He's where he is
On
Oh, what the fuck?
I got two
I'm reset now, reset
For real, how are we messing up this obstacle again?
You know, after the day of the fight
I don't understand how that's ever possible
Can you check straight?
No, I killed Rosin and I think
I got used on her because every side was filled next to the boss
And then I
Good morning! I am okay with you in front of the wonderful Alex Babos TV!
Hello! Hello! We are still on Princess Carveza!
I'm shocked! They've done everything! Vantus has been popped!
All of gear has been sent! They have no more power as far as I'm aware and they're just full slam in the boss.
One tank, full sacrifice strategies, letting everything they can to kill this boss and this boss ain't screwing around.
No! It's an angry guy!
Absolutely. I mean, look, that is popping up liquid echo all side by side as well as the Chinese team and instant dollars. Well, we got pretty side by side race. I love it. Yeah, it's we've got a lot of very, very strong guilds all in a very similar space. Normally we don't see this. And we see only like two front runners really. And then some people were trailing behind with liquid and echo normally in the front. The method doing incredibly well this tier. I think they're still using the two tank
So if they're going back to if they can do it with the two tank strat awesome
If they're going to be going to the one tank strat than that well the problem
There is a massive problem with this strategy that they've got right now
it's so
You have to spend so many resources like recovery resources such as your battle res and everything on the tank because of their
Sacrificing each phase they need to die one time each phase that if you have any wipes at any other point
and it's not going to be
a good point. Um or any other
deaths even they're not coming
back up. I think the first free
battle as we have available is
four minutes and 30 into the
fight is fighting last six
minutes and 30 seconds. So yeah,
it makes this fight go from a
really tough are kind of cool
mechanical fight to something
that's just really annoying to
play. It's okay, right,
especially when you look at the
in those intermissions, where the blazes go,
who they're going on, which direction they're going out in,
whether they overlap with the shadowy pizza slice.
And that's happening very randomly every single pull.
So you could just have a bad positioning,
which obviously you're gonna try your hardest
to not have that, but just with the way that they line up.
You can get yourself into some rough spots, right?
And with the one tank strap,
it's even more punishing if somebody dies.
It's already a tight DPS check.
Okay, let's drop a tank, bring in another DPS,
but now nobody really can die because of the tank mechanic, right?
Usually when the tank's turning off of each other, we can't do that.
So we'll need the reses on the tanks, which means nobody else can die.
Just everybody play perfectly, that's it!
Well, the thing is we have over 500 combined pulls,
which we're in the top three guilds right now,
which is, you know, and they're all on this boss.
Not one single pull has gotten everyone through to the very end with everyone alive.
Not once. Not once have we even entered the last intermission of the entire raid alive.
We've always had one or two people dead here or there, or way way more than that.
So, it's incredible how difficult this fight is in terms of keeping it alive.
It isn't just like, it can be very easy from watching from the outside and kind of going,
these guys are going to troll in, you know?
They're just, they're mucking up, it's this player doing this or that player doing that.
No.
It's the fight being incredibly difficult.
Um, very, very difficult. Indeed. There's so many different variations of what you need to do as well as how greedy you need to play in order to make the DPS check as well.
There is a fair amount of greed going out. They're doing everything that they possibly can to become as consistent as they can.
And unfortunately, there's no Scryp or Roger, um, sort of talk that's going to get them through that.
There's no way of out-strategying it that we know of. It's just reps keep pulling the, uh, keep pulling the level.
Yeah, I mean they have a fantastic strap aware they're placing the portals how they're dashing the ads through
And they have very precise positioning of the orbs for example, so you have very much wrapped up this fight
It's been very wonderful to see as we can see now going down because of the tank mechanic
But they have the shaman ancestral resurrection totem. I think is the full name that nobody calls it
But we'll pull it that anyway
Going out getting now back up, but that is gonna happen
that's what's happening when you have one tank right you don't have the other tank
taunt is swapping for you therefore it's going to just you're just going to die
we were sickening the stacking damage we were thinking as well on the caster room
why don't we just get like a rep palli to taunt with the bubble up
yeah that's what i was wondering because i haven't necessarily played the closest
attention this morning i was very excited to get on cast and see all of the changes
when i saw they were going for one tank i was wondering okay are we getting a
pallidant once what pressing bubble situation or anything similar to that but I don't think so I think
they're just opting for the combat res the shame and ankle term I can only assume it's either because
it's mandatory for Narko to be using that bubble elsewhere or it is scary in melee even in my
not just work at all it might sometimes you have tank buses that pierce immunities and things
like that so in order to avoid cheese like this and so it might very well be
that way as well. It is so scary. Yeah that's one of the reasons you don't bring too
many melee hit. You've got how many melee DPS right now? It's very little play area.
So we've got five melee, six, seven, seven players in melee including the tank
if I'm correct. With swag normally up it'll be eight and these are eight of
the strongest melee players in the world. People are very very experienced and even then it's looking
scary for those guys so you can imagine how rough it'll be. It does feel like honestly when you get
to this fight if you're preparing for it as your own guild you may very well want to limit the melee
which is something that we haven't had to save quite a while. I've quit the screen terror
already it's fine. Well your your mage spec where you're just bonking all of your staff
I'm standing in mellow just hit him with my stick. Yeah, damn right
teach teach the princess a lesson
Yeah, that was messy that was that last second people not really know what's going on there fellow unfortunately going down now going down as in
Anticipated rice and dying as well
but I do think he's got the spirit of redemption talent that makes it so he resurrects after this but we're both fellow and
and Ryzen dead. This is locally going to be a dead pull in itself, but any extra practice
they can get, they can get. It might be going for a reset real quick, maybe. Yeah, the boss
gets tracked towards the entrance. There we go. Moving on over. Yeah, very strange tier.
Very strange tier indeed. This feels almost a little bit reminiscent of Seppuku or the
This is a jailitor in terms of the random difficulty.
It's not random, it's getting ever harder I suppose, but I didn't expect it to be so hard so quick.
Who was thinking 263 pulls from Liquid?
I know, that's what I was saying.
173 pulls from Ekka. I guess it's just because in terms of time spent on the boss, you can rack up like a pull a minute sometimes.
Yeah, I think it's always important to just state that pull count isn't everything, it's interesting to talk about,
It's not the most accurate metric, you know with this fight it can go wrong even from the start
Like if you lose somebody or have something slightly misplaced, you can reset the boss and go again
So it's one of those bosses where you can very easily rack up so many pool counts
But that doesn't necessarily mean that it's more difficult
Compared to a different fight because there have been so many end bosses
Where this pool count from liquid for example has exceeded an end boss
So if you're just looking it like that, it would indicate right this is harder, but that's not necessarily true.
You're just wiping so quickly in this fight. It's really easy to just rack up the pool counts.
No, for sure. In terms of pool counts, we're getting to the point where it's nearly more pools on Civeza and Brute Twister than the entirety of Aberus.
I'm done the math on that so you know don't out me or quote me on that but you know it's
Just to kind of enhance your point nine answer add to it. Excuse me
The idea of yeah pool count really not meaning a whole lot
You've got to certainly take into account the circumstances around how the pools are being made because right now
Yeah, they work with both guilds worked out what their strategy was and how they want to do the fight long long ago
And of course with the addition of the one tank strategy kind of being used as like a
But once they realized that the boss wasn't gonna lose any more health and they really needed to bump the damage
It was more of a consequence of that. I guess it's something that
The girls probably had in their back pocket from the beginning obviously liquid pulling out first
So I'm not sure if it was necessarily something echo just kind of yanked or if they had available
But it doesn't matter either way as a it is
You know, they've had that strap for a long long time if this boss was tuned with like 10% less health
it would have probably died maybe a hundred and twenty hundred and forty
balls ago for liquid like a similar sort of like a reduction a big reduction for
an echo as well just because you can play safer you'd be able to bring two tanks
and four hills or you would be able to one tank from five even you know it's
just that because of the incredibly high damage check everyone's playing pretty
close to the wall and when you do that you do certainly run into some issues
Yeah, they unfortunately lost now too many times in this phase and they were trying to reset the boss
But she did transition into the intermission where she runs towards the middle of the room ready to slice out the various areas of the room
So unfortunately didn't quite get the reset, but this is going to be a wipe with their only one tank dead
Unfortunately, I mean we are going to have some deaths from tank because there is the tanks off as we were saying
So not all of the deaths, a lot of the deaths are planned, but we just had one too many unfortunately
as they will be trying to reset the boss again.
So we've had a few comp changes since yesterday, anybody tuning in on this a fine afternoon.
We have one extra warrior from yesterday I believe.
Yep, we do indeed, we have all life in instead of Perfecto.
Yep, and we've got one tank and then who else did they bring in?
in and have a little look. Oh, yeah, they needed Mystic Touch, the Mug Touch. Because
Clicks is absolutely blasting this fight. They're really doing so much damage.
Yes, indeed. I think in terms of raw damage you would want to bring a second Clicks. But
unfortunately, right now we want to double up the warriors just because of the rallies,
being incredibly useful at points in the fight, especially towards the end of the
intermission where everyone gets one of those blazes on them, or Regicide as it's called
in the actual dungeon journal. But just like Final Fantasy as well for people who are coming
over from that game, Waterfall Craft players also just call a mechanic exactly what has been called
in the past most of the time. Either they describe it or if there's no easy way of describing it,
use the name as it was first seen such as Blazor. So yeah, I've been I've been trying to
kind of call them in terminology that's kind of easy to see just because sometimes
it be overwhelming using exact names oh yeah I know why was already so overwhelming right there's
probably so many of you watching like I don't know what's going on but you play you don't play
yeah there's so much going on it's very chaotic in these fights so I try and be like oh yeah look
the shadowy people like this, rather than the Queen's...
Deflective Bane Tank Mechanic to taunt shadowy blades.
Yeah, 100% that mechanic.
You don't even mean that the Nether Phantoms are activating their Twilight Massacre in order
to remove their death masks and applying the Queen's Bane, which causes the Visitor,
the Umbrell Visitor, Dark Visitor, to pass the Rosalind Room.
you get reaped. Yes the Reaper passing from the boss not actually assassinating you because
that's the name of the ability that causes the Den of Phantom to appear in the first place and then
it is not actually assassination that's what it is. It's the Den of Phantom cast that is going to
be very good. Very good Alex. No one cares. Chat feel free to sleep through that.
No, they're learning!
Artful noted.
The names of the abilities are cool.
The community will stick to some of them, and to other ones they just wouldn't.
It's kind of random what they decide to pick up and keep.
I'm pretty sure most of the things I just said there were inaccurate.
No, no, I fully believe that sound did perfect.
And I let it have no way of knowing.
No one knows. No one's read the dungeon journal. Are you insane?
I did that for Queen Ancerek and I quickly closed it.
Yeah, the Queen Ancerek dungeon journal in itself a mechanic.
Oh, it looks like they're having a little bit of a chit chat.
The chances are, like, if they have these breaks between, it's even because,
you know, someone's just taking a quick couple minutes to go grab a drink or something.
Or they are talking about something incredibly minor.
There's so many small little optimizations as to how to better dodge the Nexus blades, how to better dodge all of the orbs going across, how we're going to be doing the intermission properly with all the blaze lines, all those things.
That's the little conversations they're having between where someone's just like dude, I just keep having real big troubles here.
Someone points out this is how I'm doing it and they can have a little bit of a discussion.
One thing you do not want to do though is pre-pull the boss.
Oh, that was what happened. Unfortunately, that is a go again angle of this being a very, very particular DPS check.
We don't want to be seeing that happening.
No, not at all.
What just happened? But yeah, it's the case. Sometimes it's taking the time to say, Hey, I'm struggling with this thing.
How can we make it easier? And I feel like that's the good signs of a team that's kind of working together, right?
Because if somebody is struggling with a mechanic or somebody struggling with certain positioning, it's taking that second to be
like we can't just sit there and wait for you to get good even though that might be the case sometimes
but if there is something that we can put in that you find easier right if this is a mechanic that
you personally struggle with we will have mechanics that are Achilles heel let's say
and if there's something that we can do to make it easier whether you swap positions with somebody
else or you stand here or these little things are really important to talk about because we
can't just sit around and wait for the godpool we have to make things as consistent as we
possibly can and that helps make things consistent. I was going to say that's how you start to move
towards the god pool. You can go of course just RNG, RNG, RNG and hope for the best,
but you want to be increasing those odds by increasing as much as you can to the
your consistency of the mechanics. If you can make it so that instead of every, you know,
50% of the time we have someone die in phase one, if we can make that down to 10% then
awesome. You know, that means that we're more likely to be getting into the first,
you know, stylist night intermission and then just being able to cycle through that over
and over again. So those sorts of things are just very much get the reps in, find out exactly
being able to put into words what you're struggling with sometimes can be the most difficult thing.
If you are having a tough time on the boss, but you're just like, I'm pretty sure I know
what I'm struggling with, but I just need to keep trying because like not all times it
needs to sometimes it's very specific situations that you're in as well can be very, very tough,
But it seems that they are getting more consistent
Finally get started to see some phase three pools again
Started to see some in rage pools, although we haven't got a new best just yet because the pools have been scuffed
they've
Still been pretty impressive in terms of the the fact that we're getting back towards that point after having to do quite a
Big change in strategy now going down there as part of a normal part of the new strategy where he does die on the
set of
Tank buses that happens during the first set of charges, that's going to be happening each and every time
So do not worry. Do not adjust your TV sets at home. That is intentional
Um, so yeah, it's looking pretty good though so far so good as we're hitting 80 percent
What could possibly go wrong? Of course the first minute of the fight being the hardest part
Yeah, I mean this fight you can get to the very very end. It doesn't necessarily
Uh, you don't need everybody alive to see the later parts of the fight
So all practice is good and because it cycles it's a rinse and repeat where you're going from this phase to the end site
And then back into this phase again
Yeah, like it is just a lot of practice
So the practice that you get in the start of the fight in phase one is practice
It's gonna carry through for the entirety of the fight. So it's all helpful
I have a round a bit of how do mugs work? Oh, what is that? I was on the bottom of my mug
It's not chewing gum or is it tissue?
It's not chewing gum?
On the bottom of a mug?
I'm going to have to go because I'm going to vomit.
We're going into the intermission here so I've been bringing that up.
I think I've got an old...
Okay it's fine.
I've wiped it out.
I'm not sticking it to the coffee table.
I'm finding something to stick it to under the coffee table.
Just don't do it now.
But I don't want to say what it is because it might be something amazing.
Oh, we're going into phase two of everybody alive though. This is looking super good
This is the consistency that we need don't give yourself a paper cut Alex on top of everything else
That's something right now
I've spider's rule and this envelope is never being opened again
Being held together
That's gross
Alright, they'll have the four masks to deal with in this phase
Every single time they go back into phase one, they'll have an additional mask
It's an additional ad they'll need to run through the boss
making sure they're placing the Orbs in a way that doesn't affect the play area in the middle of the room, making sure the portals are perfectly, well, even in a circle and say on a hexagon, a hexagon circle, yeah, that makes sense, so that they also are not getting sucked one way or the other.
Oh, no, like now supposed to die there
But unfortunately clicks in a position where the boss is because clicks is doing so much damage
He is second on throughout the boss turning around and giving a big slap in the face
But there goes the uncle to get him uprights and unfortunately going down there though
No res available for a minute and 20 seconds
This might be the beginning of the end for what is otherwise a very very good pull
Just man just having these small little deaths here and there is just causing so much grief when the fight is this tight
We're still going to practice but yes good luck three healing the upcoming intermission
Yeah, I mean this is the thing with the one tank strat right the tank's dying
And then the boss does need somebody to hit so you can have deaths like that. It's insane. It like this
It turns the fight into like a very cool sort of
Mechanical very really tight DPS check to something that is bordering on the side of frustration. I would say
Um, well, it's just like you just have to keep slamming your face into it until you get it perfect
And you know these get if there's gonna be anyone in the world
Possibly like a cable of doing so it is the guilds are working on this boss right now
However, it's still not nice to not be able to make one mistake and a fight that the single mistake causes you to wipe and probably someone else to
Wipe as well
Fortunately, at least we can we're doing incredibly well by the way
Unfortunately, we're gonna lose some people here for sure and again
this is one of those things
where because the boss cycles,
this is very good practice. This
is going to be very significant
going forward. So it's not
necessarily always about, let's
say the boss health to see
progress. It's not. Okay, that
was a progress pool because the
boss HP dropped a little bit
more. No, no, no, there's going
to be progress at each step of
this fight. Practicing that
intermission. Stars night
for me to gauge as well because I'm not sure how excited we should be. Like it feels like you know
because sometimes it yeah you're kind of like sat there like oh it is this like a situation where
we still have to do lots of really low percent pulls in order to because we're at 20% right now
we haven't got lower than 20% today entirely 20% was our best pull yesterday but we're
slowly getting more and more consistent I think it's just that we're a bit more likely to
pull the trigger on doing a reset like if oh it's not good enough we'll go um but in theory
and like what's stopping them from being able to just kill it? Like they know what the strat is,
you do what you've done in the first like two and a half minutes of the fight, you just do that
three times and then the boss dies. So who knows maybe- Have you given them your insight Alex?
I think that's the key missing piece. I could tell them just to kill the boss but if anyone
is to know something like this it is our one and only Jessie over on the max roll analysis desk.
Hello, hello. How are you? Good morning? Good morning to see afternoon. It's always morning somewhere Alex
I always say good morning because I think true everyone loves it. It's every hour of the day somewhere on the planet
It's happy hour somewhere as well. Yes, correct. Well before that, let's get drunk
Can recommend the raid not do that. No, so at some point in between pulls
I thought it might be worthwhile to explain exactly what's going on with the one thing strategy
and how that's being done to minimize the chance of clicks getting slapped in the face by the boss.
We could potentially do that now. I don't see a pull timer up. So what's happening is the tank
mechanic is called void shredders which does a big burst of damage on the tank and then it
leaves behind this debuff called chasmal gasch. There are three void shredders per phase and this
big gap in the middle with no void shredder is in fact the intermission. So he takes the
first void shredder and lives. Now he has the chasmal gasch debuff which means on the
on the second one, he dies.
They put the Ankh-Totem down beforehand
so that he can res as quickly as possible
from the Ankh-Totem, come back up
and taunt quickly before clicks get slapped in the face.
The third one, he doesn't have the debuff
because he died and that debuff actually expires
partway through the admission,
allowing him to again take the first one of phase two.
In the interim, after he takes the Ankh-Totem,
he gets a Soul Stone placed on him after the Ankh-Totem.
That way he can instantly click that and res.
We're not waiting for anyone to cast res
because that would take too long,
someone would get clapped in the middle.
So the soulstone is placed on him,
so that after this void shredder kills him,
he can take the soulstone.
Then again, he takes the third,
the debuff expires during the admission,
he takes the first, and at 430,
we get our second combat res,
soulstone is placed back on him about 20 seconds before
the second one at phase three kills him again.
Ah, so it isn't a unctotum that we're using
for the third rest of the unctotum.
The unctotum is a five minute cooldown,
and he dies at 30 seconds.
And you can't produce...
That second...
Correct.
No reduction.
Because they have that talent, don't you?
That's going to be a three-minute...
The second Onk Totem is used for anyone who might die in this final intermission.
That's right.
Which does hit very, very hard.
We have 30% damage buff on the boss for the entirety of that final intermission because
she gets three death masks in the final phase.
Oh, that's...
So it's Onk, Soul Stone, Soul Stone, clicking that accept as quickly as possible to
taunt and prevent clicks from getting slapped in the face.
And then on trodham in the last phase and good luck aiming.
Now what happens sometimes is that if a healer dies, we have to res them or the pull is over.
And in that eventuality, we have Narco taunt the second void shredder of the phase so that
Robyn's debuff expires before the third.
And we give up a ret paladin instead of our tank.
Yep, and at least that way you can practice the pull.
Obviously that's not something that they want to do long term, but thank you very
much for that, Jesse.
Very clear indeed.
Alvin, are you throwing anything on clicks to make it so that he's more likely
not to die in the brief interim where the Voss is slapping him, like, um, I'm just thinking
more of something like a bop.
I don't know if immunities work on this mechanic, because if so, I would assume he just, just
the melee hits afterwards.
Oh, for clicks.
Yes, for clicks, yes.
No, they haven't yet, but that might be interesting.
They are using an enormous number of externals for the assassination mechanic.
Four people are assigned to get an evoker shield.
The fifth one gets an external, so all of the time dilations from the evoker is
all of the blessing sacrifices are all accounted for. It might be interesting if they put a
bop on clicks, that would preserve your highest EPS, and then the boss would turn around and
kill a reference.
Oh, that's true.
The boss would just die. Yeah, of course it would. Well, that's why you don't have me
over on the Mantra Analysis Desk right now, as my suggestion.
No, but asking the important questions, right? Somebody might want to know that, so it's
going to be cleared out.
That's fair enough. Yes, I did it for someone else who would have asked such a question.
Exactly.
That's it. Not because I didn't.
You're asking just in case there will be somebody who has that question. There we go. I'm helping chat on a chap
Please tell me I'm helping. I can imagine I can't see chap. I know that they're going sure
Yep
Spam and blalot have we're fine as we're jumping into another pool here after a little bit of conversation
There's a bit of something that hopefully improve on the consistency because that indeed is key as now going down here for
for the first time correctly using the arctotum for this particular point. It's one of the prescribed
ones that Jesse was just going over. But yes, no consistency is key. There's nothing really much
more to do. They just need to come across small little things that they can tell their players
how to deal with those particular overlaps or those particular situations that arise that much
better. But aside from that, just pull again, keep going, just they know what they need to do.
just at one point the boss will just go okay here's a slightly nicer version and you took advantage
of it you know you're going for the times where the people that have good DRs at that point happen
to be the ones that are also asked to go far away or are put in really dangerous situations but we
start see going down and they're unavailable we probably will be looking to res him but this
does mean that soon. Michael's time is limited. So is the entire race is now I thought he does
as well. Rough. Starless Night as
well. The boss unmovable during
this 24 second cast, meaning that
we are indeed calling it there
because you're not even bothering
to move from the eclipse on the
ground. So, it is the pizza.
Yeah, unfortunately, had to again
are res is a very precious on
this fight, which is scary
considering how easy it is to
lose people. Unfortunately, we
did lose a healer would have
and start taking out the DPS, which we saw there.
So it's one of those very high-risk,
high-reward strats, I would say.
I'm all right in saying, actually,
that they might not be wanting to,
they're surviving the intermission to reset the boss
because they've always got a soul sewn out
on someone that isn't a healer.
They've got the one Warlock, right?
So they might be doing it just to make it
so they can reset easier.
No joke, rather than having to have a healer
run all the way back.
So quite far away at this point as well.
Yeah, so what they're doing is
putting the soulstone on rice in pre-boss that way it doesn't use the cooldown in case
he dies phase one. Then he slaps it on Robin as soon as the aunt totem gets used.
Garchek, garchek, garchek. And then, yeah, we need to reset the boss or everyone's running
back.
That's fair. That is fair. So there is the group getting themselves all back in, but
whilst that is going on, I thought it might be a little bit of an issue time to of
course thank everyone who has donated up to this point.
I see we are so close to our $15,000 goal there.
The RC Rumble, we're going to have a little race,
with the little GoCards, if you will.
GoCards, little race cars, go RC GoCards.
We're basically going to be breaking the production's
phones that are going to be used to show everything.
We've got some really good incentives here.
We've got scuffed cosplay,
radar portraits, international caster,
appreciation day, the Nerubar,
going to be a mocktail roulette, some heinous concoctions and some nice ones and then at 40,000
some of the castles may well will be getting kraven spider tatoo hold on actually oh right okay
this whole kraven spider tattoo jesse of course putting himself in the line of fire for this thank
you very much but so is medic yeah the rumor has it that medic might not be here for very much
longer oh we're gonna work out how that's gonna work because with by the rate in which
you guys are donating you know he's gonna skedaddle as we reach in so we'll have to see
about that but one thing of course this all of these donations going towards a wonderful
cause games for love a charity that is helping children in developing countries with lifesaving
care as well as providing a distraction therapy through the use of video games and teaching
stuff within hospitals as well you know how to best handle you know children who are
struggling who are in there for really long periods of time with a whole host
very very horrible diseases and of course once they are through the other side of their
what's it called diseases and whatnot and through their treatment they need to you know
they have missed a ton of school so of course games are loved also providing wonderful scholarship
programs and apprenticeships and all the rest of it so it's a wonderful wonderful course and you've
you guys been donating like crazy so do keep your donations coming in we'll do our best to
read them in between the pools especially as well right now any pool could be the kill
but if we're going to go off of the chances so far a hundred and seventy seven of them have not
been so we will we will see exactly how that plays out yeah but we do actually have a donation in
from mc mac nice a thirty three dollar and twelve cent donation who says go echo thank you very
much mc mac and that was an hour ago i really do appreciate it thank you thank you do keep
your donations coming in and we will be dealing with them as and when we can. Yeah, I think we need
some of your best dad jokes to get us through the Kai Vezer. Endless, starless nights, as this boss is
very difficult. I don't think anyone was expecting Brood Twister and Nexus Princess Kai Vezer to
be tuned quite like this. It makes it such exciting viewing though. This, this rate here
been fantastic so far and we still haven't seen the penultimate boss we haven't seen
Silkencourt. We haven't seen Queen Anterac the final boss of the Rated either so I just keep
saying it this has been fantastic so far. Safe to say this is definitely going into next reset
it's on pace to be you know everyone laughed when I as the doomsayer and Soothsayer as I am
you know the oracle made my prediction some may say yeah my prediction that the boss will
die on a Friday. It was either going to be on the third day or the tenth and I think it's
tuning out to probably be on Saturday or Sunday so probably still wrong. We will see.
It'll be on a Friday if it's 17 days.
True, that is terrifying. Not as terrifying as the fact that this pool is looking good
and we have our reses available as we're going out of the first intermission or the
stylist night phase back into phase one once again for the second time through. If they're
able to keep this all clean. Wex goes down unfortunately though, that health just not
being able to get topped up. The thing is although that each of these phases is the same mechanically
speaking largely, you know of course we need to charge the boss with one more of the masks,
but that doesn't change us in terms of strategy. What does change is what healing cooldowns
are available. Sometimes an overlap that is easy in the first time that we see it,
the second time that we see it, you know, we don't have our spirit link for this one,
So it makes it so it's that much more difficult in healing
So unfortunately wex going down there, but that does not mean that the pool is over
They're gonna continue going through the damage check on this boss
There is no shield that you need to break through anything like that as long as you can have
Some players alive towards the end. That's how you can see the enrage and the enrage is something
We need to see as often as possible. We did see our second successful res with clicks not getting clapped
Cush and Cush, unfortunately getting slapped same with a
Narko there big unfortunate big big sad those are very coincidental timing there
I think that Jesse should sit on the floor that's not gonna happen true I
didn't say this pull is going swimmingly they're guaranteed to kill it I
said Robin managed his rest that he did true which is true it kind of looked
like the boss may have the only thing that would have gone wrong did he
Maybe re-tort, maybe?
No, he did it correct.
The only thing that could have gone wrong is if Klicks died,
because that's what Jesse said.
Jesse said, ah, he accepted the Rez and tormented the boss
without Klicks dying.
Kush and Naka then died to, like,
Orbs going across the room.
So no, that isn't a cast to cast.
Ah, okay.
The castes do do a lot of cursing,
but I refuse to have, oh, I got muted.
I refuse to have the name of a fellow cast
of being tarnished in such a fashion.
Just this.
production letting us know there of course that we are valued members of the
team and that we're totally part of a democracy unfortunate that we do have a
few players down but they are able to continue pushing on through this could
still be a new best he says
yeah absolutely agree that was the floor yeah that was that was a curse
But the pause audio via that out. Well, it was
Started that
So keep going exactly testing out the fat last phase one thinking is worthwhile
I think yeah, because in this phase they'll have the five
Masks the five red glowy ads to deal with they shoot two across the boss and then this final one
They will be shooting the last three which permanently buffs the boss for the rest of the fight now
She is empowered and now they have to try it survive and pump out as much DPS as possible as well
Yeah, talking about the last eternal night phase while the last stylist night phase
You can see how rough the intermission is when you have only two of the eclipse going around rather than three
So not only you're gonna have a one moving more
Imagine the damage coming in here. Look at this eternal night phase here
30% more damage on each of these regicide blaze lines. You need to have a personal. You need to have some things to help yourself
Or you're just dead hopeful
Well, I just saying you need to have it otherwise you just have what happened to hopeful though
I think you actually got clipped by one of the circles on the ground
You got hit by the pizza. That was the big sad
But you can see how well the healers are actually managing to do here with this
the increased frequency of the retro sides on each individual player here because we have people dead the fact that we're getting anywhere
It's very impressive a new burst for echo here though as the boss has managed to go down all the way into the 17% range
Which is obviously something nice to have a feeling that at least we're making a small bit of prog
Even if the path was it was a little bit scuffed
Yeah, you can see what happens there with the eternal night with the damage just pulsing out across the ray
So maybe now just doesn't die
How long did he go there for? That was crazy.
Oh, we got it. Yeah, that was good. 17.8% was just going forever.
Yeah, that's our best pool so far, right?
Awesome.
20% previous best pool.
Yeah, very good.
No, they should be happy that we got it.
You can see smiles on the players' faces here.
It was good that we've made a little bit of forward momentum,
even if it wasn't too crazy overall.
What's also very promising is that in contrast to yesterday
yesterday where they had good pulls for the first half and then consistency kind of lowered at the end of the day thus far their
Consistency is massively increasing over the course of the day. We're going from you know
One minute pulls consistently to two minute pulls consistently now to four minute pulls consistently
We're having a much higher concentration of getting the boss down consistently to that
You know four or five six minute phase, which is excellent for morale
It's good to see as well from a potentially killing it standpoint of making us get further and further and having those nice
purple colours instead of the white colours on the logs indicating we've gotten further into the fight.
I'm hoping for some gold logs or maybe no gold logs and instead green logs where the boss is just dead in the first place.
Big kill icon on the logs over there would be very nice, which you certainly could do.
We don't necessarily need to go through that standard progression of a patchwork style fight in terms of like,
this is far from patchwork but maybe Sludgefist is a little bit more apt where each time you go,
go like our first time we got to the end it was a 20% then we got to 19 and 18
and slowly gets lower and lower to the point where you're fighting those point
ones out similar to how we was doing brew twister right but we were having
those really low percent wipes this certainly could be one of the bosses
where it just clicks and suddenly you go from 17.8% all the way down to 3%
absolutely yeah and I would say these kind of fights are so exciting to watch
as well so it's that tight damage check it's the craziness as well it's
happening in the intermission for example and then you get to the very end where you have
the starless night, you have the enrage just pulsing damage across the entire rain, you'll
have that kind of moment where can they manage to finish the boss off. We have that a brood
twister as well with the room just getting slowly covered in all of the goo going across
the floor and running out space at the very very end battling the swirlies dodging
out into the goo trying to get the boss down and you have those kind of like it's almost
like a hero plate in a way where it's like okay this is very tense I mean he's killed
the boss now.
And this is one of those spices that's similar and it's very sludge fisty alright and sludge
fist was also a spectacle just for those reasons as well.
Yeah the fight is very delicate it's not as explosive when something goes wrong although
it can be sometimes with a bit of viscera one of the orbs going across if that kills
multiple people, the application does then is very explosive. But I would even say the
sludge fist was less fragile. There was a couple of mechanics on that fight that you
had to do correctly, so I should soak in the pillars and the debris that fell off of it.
That was of course very, very important. Not breaking your chains was also very important.
Yeah, that's a very good word. This fight is extremely fragile. You're absolutely right.
It's not, I don't think it necessarily is fragile by design. It's become fragile
because of the silly strat we need to do in order to beat the damage.
I guess in the sense of this is a really tight TPS check, right?
And there's really intense, like the intermission is extremely
intense. I keep saying this, but depending on the direction that
those shadow blazes are going out at, it could really cut
somebody off or you'll have to dodge in a way that moves it,
putting somebody else in danger and offsetting somebody. So it's
very particular. And that's not something that you can learn.
That's not a position that you can stand in. There's no
safe spots. You have to absolutely react in the
moment so I would say it's very fragile and because they have only one tank they
only have a certain amount of res is they can't spare them so nobody can die
you're entirely right to just game out of their lives in the intermissions
especially it's one of the fights so that as gear goes on and when maybe your
mythic guild gets to it or just not trying this week because you killed the
first four and now you're just waiting for bosses to arrive that is
actually even approachable the once you get to it and you have the
sufficient gear for it. Maybe that raid by buff that I believe is coming in is like a way of
nerfing the bosses over time once that's kicked in as well. This fight is going to get annihilated
by gear basically. As soon as you get some more power into this thing then you know,
sure you can have people dead. You might even be able to have it if you have slightly more
health or slightly more output from everybody. You might be able to take occasionally a mistake
and not get one tapped by it with you getting finished off by the reaper mechanic. So it
does feel like because of the point in which the guilds have reached it, it amplifies the
the danger so much to the point of like super super fragility in that sort of
sense. So looks like we're just waiting for nice memes to come back. It looks like he has
now looking at the multi view. They must just quickly pop to go grab a drink or
something but with him arriving back hopefully we can look to get ourselves
another pool because yes if you had to tune in Echo have got themselves a
brand new best pool and pool 178 they got the boss to 17.8 which is a
I don't think I like that very much.
Of course all the players are made from GPT and that's why when occasionally at certain
pool marks they have to get it to certain thresholds.
Other AI services are available, such as the one over on the analysis desk where we
We've got Jesse.
Beep boop.
Hi Boop.
You're such a jealous.
Comey.
Just interesting to note that the Eclipse, that enrage mechanic, sweeping the entire floor
with the ground-effect that kills everyone, happens at 6.34 consistently killing everyone
except for Nice Memes and our tank, Robin.
Nice Memes using a meta-immune to avoid that final hit and live for an additional
6 seconds until the next ticket for Eclipse, and Robin living for an average of 17 seconds
during the enrage.
That's hilarious especially I shoot Bryson being alive is probably helping out a little bit. Yeah
Guardian spirit form and spam seal on Robin as well, but Robin has sufficient yard to live for 17 seconds there
Yeah, I did think he was alive for quite a while, which is going to be very significant when they get to that point
That's for the pool was dead. I was like, I've already called it and there's like, well, he's still going
So you can see the banana tech coming in to play here. Do you have you heard about the banana tech banana tech?
Have you have you not seen my my rate? I saw your wonderful
Multiple rate plans banana rate plan. Okay
After this pool particularly when well unless this is the kill but I'm assuming that it's not but between these upcoming pools
Then maybe we could have a relook at that banana text. I think for a lot of people
It's a little confusing but suffice to say it's some jank and
And it makes no sense.
Oh, unfortunately, Velo going down.
Nice move's going down.
So maybe, yeah, now, Jesse, it might be a good time
because I think this pool is not...
We're not going to be using it for too much longer.
It will be my imagination.
They can get the result on, is it, Velo?
And perhaps keep the pool going again.
Yeah, I'm glad that we're dragging it out.
OK, well, yeah, heading over to the matchup analysis
and desk then, Jesse,
would you like to have a little bit of an explanation?
Yeah, so here we have the banana
This is one of Roger's code words. He uses fruit to you to a shorthand right?
So pineapple means go to the side of the boss opposite of the door and it seems
faster needs to say pineapple. Can I ask a question? Yeah. It's a distinctive word
difficult to confuse for another that you can call in progress and everyone knows
what it means. But I'm confused. Much like everybody else. In this case, banana is
shorthand for everybody to push your macro if you have the assassination.
So the boss targets five people with assassination which is what puts the
void circles on the ground, and they want to get those void circles to these corners
of the room on these lines.
So if you get that debuff around you, it can't be tracked, it's one of the private oras,
so you push the macro, and that macro is the banana macro.
It pops up on the raid frames for the evokers, and each of the four evokers gets assigned
one of the bananas to carry to where they're supposed to go.
One poor schmuck has to wide walk to his spot instead of getting carried.
That's okay, everyone else gets carried there.
More importantly than being transported there, and why you see sometimes the
evoker grip them two yards is because the twin guardian talent for the evokers
allows them to give about a two million shield to the person they're grabbing as
well as themselves which obviates the damage from the assassination it
completely absorbs about half of it making them significantly safer that
for the subsequent dot from Queensbane that they'll get so it's a little bit
of help healers out tech doing around 50 million healing on a good pull yeah
okay power of fruit there you go power fruit yeah but I was looking at the
play monitor they're all in
what a gal
which scared me for a second
no
what are they doing
what are they doing
no no no no no
it's just a break right they're just going on a
break they're resetting
oh they're up to no good
marriage is even locked off
out of your raid
what's going on so
it's day 5
There's no more splits. No. Oh, it could be just that everybody's offline in one of the videos
Okay, sure. Oh
Perfecto the blankie time. Yeah, I'm with him. Oh, no, it's a hoodie. Never mind
So it looks like the players what we don't know. We haven't been told nothing as per usual my goodness
Damn, this goes guys. It's looking awesome. There we go. There's penguin disco. Oh, my disco
It's a great transmog. Absolutely fantastic. So the players might be being cruel and unusual to us.
They're getting some air. They're touching grass.
Do you think they're just taking a small break and logging on to other characters in order to see different scenery?
Yes, no. There might be something going on.
Heading over to some characters that obviously haven't seen much of the light of day right here.
Gingy is on a hunter.
I'm not saying I know what's happening but I am leaving. Goodbye.
Oh, right. Oh no. Hold on.
Wait, it's getting worse.
Oh no.
What are they hearing?
No, are we heading back into splits, Alice?
I didn't think there was any more splits to be done.
No!
The thing is, if they are doing a quick split, it might just be the one, right?
They might be not doing loads of them.
Right, Jordan?
Yeah!
They'd only do the one.
They would not do tons of splits.
They wouldn't do tons of splits.
That would be evil.
Who would need the gear?
I'm actually thinking who could even call.
Let's have a look.
Can we go to a point of view that maybe has the raid frames up
up so we can see who might be in for gear although i think maybe the damage retinas uh no that that
wouldn't be it uh oh damn they've got their bags open and whatnot oh there we go hold on hold on
hold no this is this is a split group this is a split group i want to see who in this split
group can get something zut see two is that what he's actually bringing to the main raid as well
uh perhaps i mean i think rix is in there as well uh we have so that's not clix's
character though I don't think. Clix's character is normally called Clix Sharman. You can see
on the right hand side. No, the Zutzi's character is normally Zutzi Dino. It's not that either.
Wall life is in on an old, Revvers is in on an old, Jinji obviously on an old, Meriz
on a warrior, so we haven't been using that. I don't know. This is very confusing as
to what we're actually going in here for. But as soon as we know, we'll let you
know. It doesn't seem to be a call. Could be maybe shot to Jinji's paw real quick. He seems
to be calling out for people to help out with plus nine turn-asides, so if you want to go
and do that. But Jinji's normally the person that we jump to to see if there's any sort
of a call to action for the group. He has typed in the word echo into dungeons. Do
you think, okay, here's a wild theory, and it is a wild theory. I promise you
I haven't heard anything
That like they might think
They might put it this boss right now into a position where I know maybe they've got the idea that it's gonna get changed or nerfed
Maybe they've just heard that through the grapevine and they're like let's go and do other things until it does get
Oh, you think that there might be incoming changes to the boss
But if that is the case and I'm not saying that it is we haven't heard
We're just fiddling here.
I'm now just literally talking trash, but last time, last time I was here and we weren't
told about the nerfs, we were talking about lasagna until two minutes before the vast
side.
So we, we're told nothing all the time.
Yeah, we have no idea.
But that might be a reason where they've just immediately gone, well, apparently
it's going to get nerfed in like three hours.
So let's just, we've got some other things that we can go get on with and then we'll
come back in three hours and we'll finish it.
Um, might be something like that.
If not, we will see.
Yeah, you could be right.
Apparently production has something for us, mayhaps.
Maybe.
Okay, so we're doing the first three bosses, and we're only going to be doing that once
on Heroic, and then we're going to go and do a Queen Ancerek, interesting.
So they don't need helpers or anything though.
If you do want to help out players that are in the, what's it called, group finder,
they've got some characters that are going out on the way to get some drink or something
from Mythic Blast, those who aren't commonly in.
Yeah.
a few little items so if you want to help them get those items they're very
dungeons you can see the groups are up but it does seem like they are chasing
something for one of the characters it seems or a few so they are doing the
first three then they're going to be going back to Queen Ancerak seems like
there are still things to get we'll find out who for yeah if we can straight
back in that is very peculiar the only thing I'm thinking of you're
Canix is even on his good character which is Canix 80. He's on Canix 90. I'm really trying to find the
90 boomkins.
90 boomkins. Yeah, trying to work out who the hell actually needs anything but apparently enough people do.
Yeah, if they're doing the first three, it could be, I don't know, like weekly tasks.
Maybe, yeah. I mean the vault needs to be filled right. If we are going into the
second reset, which I think is extremely likely at this point. They need to be thinking about filling
their vaults. On reset, they'll be getting extremely powerful items from their vaults. They want to make
sure that they have all of their dungeons filled out. They get the mythic track vault items. Even
in mythic, depending on how many bosses the various characters have been in for, that's also
an option to get the dick track items from the raid as well. So they will need to think
about that. They will need to make sure that they have all of those filled out from reset.
And I think because it's the first three bosses, it could be the maybe the neck on Zikron, the very,
I don't know if it's very rare. I think it is very rare. The very rare neck then from Zikron might be
what they could be chasing. I don't know. And they're going to be doing clean ends
around as well. There are some key items that drop from this raid that we have been looking at.
We'll tell you what, shall we have a little bit of a snoop sesh?
Ooh, we could.
So we're gonna go and put on our investigation outfits.
It's a whole thing.
We'll go and investigate.
Like, full film noir.
Where's the magnifying glass?
Oh, it's somewhere.
I think I come...
You mean the binoculars?
We've got a net.
All right, let's go catch some raiders.
We're gonna go catch some secrets.
See what's going on.
So yeah, we'll be back in a moment.
We'll throw it over and have a little listen in the wave as we're gonna find out what
the hell is going on.
It's so important that it interrupts our wonderful Kai-Veza program.
Yes!
Unbelievable.
Back in a sec.
We'll be back.
Yeah, we can get a multi-box buddy and try to lock it in.
No, he is a soak.
Oh, me?
I mean, I'm expecting him to pull Velo.
Is this his mage?
I'm a right-hand fellow.
No.
Okay.
Oh, I didn't think it was it.
So many good items, okay.
I killed one, uh, the new friend.
No, we're telling you what, Vex.
Oh yeah, that's fine.
Vex is fine.
We can summon log a multi-box, just for the boss.
Did you actually... why didn't you send your crossbow?
Yeah, like we should for sure have sent this as a kind of grievance.
I hope everyone send an upgrade, so like for sure we can upgrade something.
What do you mean? I need the chest from Nexus Princess.
That's very based, Michael.
Fucking best.
Can I have a look at second account?
Michael, can you guys cross yet?
No, I'm back.
Vex is back.
This is getting back
Oh, there's someone
Yeah, that's fine
Let's get the stun quick
Over with...
What do you mean, Wix is so... this is like some dark shit major
Yeah, you didn't reverse the conversation
Sold its main and T-Land
Hey, that's the next time, Mike
Sorry, but I'll stop there, jeez
Sold it down, hopefully
What was it?
I was communicating with a helper
Right in here
I forgive you this time only.
We appreciate it. If Klikx forgives you, I forgive you too.
I don't forgive you either, Flix.
For what?
Dying like a rat.
One heal in the Aoe.
Fallen.
Need to be focused.
Okay, three different invaders in the image.
Yeah, and I died three mechanics later when the one I pulled forward wasn't ready.
That's true.
Perfect, 30 man FPS.
Hi.
That's one face this guy.
If you don't want face, you can only blame yourself. Only 3 helpers.
One face?
That's time you need to do a lot of damage.
No, not now.
Rise in DC.
What?
Revist DC.
Man.
Oh holy.
I didn't have a screen system.
I just have bad FPS.
IDC, thank you.
Okay.
Revist DC.
I guess that's it.
Everyone's gone.
It's your time soon to soak.
The boss kills me, kills me, I hear him.
Boom.
I'm looking him.
But who's gonna kill you?
I'm gonna rally for you here. There we go.
Ships, ships, Tom.
I'm gonna pass the North.
I rally for you, yeah?
I gave you my shout.
I'm back.
Rangers, your time to shine.
Oh, look at the boss HP, guys. We can win.
So you have a Druid that is not a Brick?
Yeah, truly Brick guys.
So that Druid you're on in our Rnplus just now, I think it was 6 or 7, right?
Yeah.
Okay, and I capped up with me at 620.
You're American.
Right, so are you, are you praising Stove or are you flaming yourself, that's a question.
No, I'm flaming the balancing team.
Ah.
I mean of course
We did the PSS thing and then after that you guys forgot what you should have
What?
Oh my god
This is truly a joke
What the fuck
I'm bored for right now
It's giving me your meat
What if you just forget to use your fingers during the PSS
I never said I had any fingers
I think the last boss might have that voice line, that would be really lit.
What items are we even looking for, can you tell us a little bit higher when we kill this
boss?
thank you quick
boss is dead already man like hold on if you don't ask for the item it's not gonna drop
you need this up now now now no wait I need this shield
I need this, needing.
I'll be doing splits 14 days a month.
I noticed two warrior tanks in this run but I need a shield.
I just got a shield, I'm equipped.
I need the full 1-plus tanking.
I have a green shield.
They should farm them with the BLEs so their characters can be good.
Ok guys, we're mounting up.
Let's get it.
Ok, we're doing this weird run again.
Okay guys, okay, okay.
We should have killed Nafkan.
That's what Minio said, he said that he wants you to have it.
You didn't do the big sleep before the raid came out?
Why did you deem the 7 hour sleep on?
You were lucky.
You were lucky if you got 7 hours sleep.
I keep running, it's all mine.
Guys, we have long sleep tonight.
Oh no, I was talking about the long sleep,
like 2 days in the expansion, yeah?
It will happen, I want one.
I will never forget the long sleep guys,
Yeah, long sleep. Theoretically in 9 hours, but there was a loot coming, and maybe some other things, and then it's maybe 9 hours and then...
Guys, you can go to bed in 9 hours from now, but you have to wait like 2 and a half hours till the loot comes out.
Wasn't it one day before heroic way? We also had to meet up like fucking early in the morning for like meeting, but then it was fake meeting?
That was the other day.
But it was.
Come on, put fire. Yeah, hopeful is doing it.
We could have had the loot.
I see a gnome.
Proc?
Yeah, the fake meeting proc was actually a loot.
That was actually... That was insane.
I would've liked it.
Call us here guys, call us here.
Kill him. Take him out.
Really important.
I can't target him.
It's a hurt, actually.
Are you okay?
It's a crab for me.
Do you think the mythic scene has like, an defeat in it?
What?
What?
What?
Oh, wait, what?
Like a shooting at us or what?
Oh, that would go hard.
What if you're just fighting the feeling of us this?
You thought that was hard.
Guys, we can truly battle with everyone here.
I just made that joke, old man.
I didn't see it.
Why are you doing that?
These jokes.
He's like, just go to the thing.
Run out of the room, guys.
He's posting on Twitter right now.
Run out.
Run out, guys.
Hit this guy, though.
I meant to hit him in real time there.
It was crazy.
Okay, relax.
Re-set the force.
Disco?
Young man.
Come on, come on.
Disco?
Oh, please, go early.
Set the time in the workplace.
Thank you very much.
Oof.
Alarm.
Are we good?
sketchy guy we have group I mean as well as solo healing group one yeah
they're not healing out
yeah so heal group just as AP group one yeah
group one two three is the team one following blue four five six following
green that is part farmer wait check it
let's see if i can land it
i had made for intelligence on
all the two
yeah i followed part farm a lot when he was say booning and dying
it's crazy
booning
Now boom booling booling flex you're so fucking horny, bro. It's in the
front from the character from B-Faing for two minutes.
No, I'm still thinking that he's in a beep in the mystics cinematic.
Wait, I was looking one, two, three, is it?
I just got a dominoes.
What was one, two, three?
Omega-A dominoes thing.
First blue me.
First blue me.
I mean, I'm group one.
Robin is group two.
We follow one to the right to the right, guys.
One rare.
Don't.
I know, I know, it's kind of walking.
One Rar.
Robin, the Raws here, don't worry guys.
Rar.
DTS on it guys.
Rar.
Thank you.
Kill them guys, kill the trash, kill the boss.
The teams are coming, don't die, don't make surprise.
Oh, it's this beam!
Basically.
You can kill two people.
Crazy, Robin just takes people out like this, innocent people.
Because we're not on discord, so Red did them.
Yeah, it's fine, I think.
Is it Red leading, Mike?
Mike is Red leading.
Ah, he's playing that.
Good spawn.
Group 1 to the left, group 2 to the left.
Roaring us there.
Go, go, go, go.
And he focused the harbingers.
Very important.
Group 1 we dodged to the left with the Tentacles.
I will place a really nice beam if you do that.
The beam is cavel.
What?
I'm sure, relax.
I heard it again.
You sure? Yeah.
When Robin calls on the boss, I'm dead.
And I have to see a red nameplate.
And I press all my buttons in style.
He was just trying to be funny.
The thing is, right?
Okay, guys, don't die now.
And I was the died on purpose every time.
I was like, oh, I'm dead.
But then the people like...
Yeah, I see a red nameplate.
You don't think I react and press the whole spellbook?
but the post is weak right? isn't the post weak clicks like you have male armor huh?
yeah i mean like melees all the head crits
but who's jumping on you?
i thought i was muturating
and next to me is literally shitting himself
oh go go around to the right, around to the right
really go to the right, what is this?
oh i can't make it there
put rips on you
you literally have a gateway bud
I just used to get out
Dude I can't beat Zero's Kalimps
Zero's feet got heavy
Yeah I can't beat Zero's Kalimps
Next dispensers for this character and he still doesn't have burning rush and they are all so confused
Of course not
You think they can press burning rush and that was
Actually not the whole thing
What the fuck is this team?
I'm pressing gank wave for a yard to get to
What's the case of the Hambringer though?
There's a team coming and that is not so nice
That's so desperate
in this beam you have fucking negative damage inside.
Does anyone have a soundboard from yesterday with the muscle screen with pull?
Bro, that was, I mean that was good, but today the narco got abducted by the fucking aliens
and robots or whatever that was, but that was crazy.
Both my screen started blinking and then I was just, I, I, I can tell you that's
how it sounded as well.
I'm going solo.
Don't go in.
You were actually getting sucked up by a UFO or something, that was crazy.
I need every item, every item, every item, every item.
See what we're looking for?
I have a lot of stuff.
Steve did not tell us what we're looking for.
I wouldn't mind this ring though.
Are these items for upgrades or what?
Just for below.
Actually, it's doing a split for a fucking healer or what?
I wouldn't mind this ring by the way.
Well, you're just complaining about the upgrade, yeah?
Yeah, of course, but it doesn't need to do splits.
So we'll right-click, upgrade this item.
You literally have a chest with the same stats though, yeah?
Yeah and this can go much higher I don't know
Yeah but then you're not gonna get a mythic chest next week
Yeah, the update is from Gigi
I don't want...
I need to hold it next week
I'm holding the crystal
Velo's not playing the 30th list next week
Absolutely
Hi guys, let's get it
No complaining, just fool, PMA, we play, we win
Good complaining, fuck how this is always pressed
I think he's great on mythic or what
What?
Hey
We're gonna roll it
this map looks like he smells like kush and i cannot explain that oh my god kush must
So fucking by
Do the flex the groin rub check do the groin rub how does it smell?
What is the groin?
You take two fingers or what?
You put them in your body rub that shit, and then you sniff them
No, you shower face like everyday, anyway, no matter what
No, it's a shower check, even if the...
No, it's not a shower check
Shower?
That's not the point of the going there, but what?
Point of the going there?
Point of the going?
Point of the going?
Point of the going?
Point of the going?
What?
You want to take some aroma and put it on your body, yeah?
Nah
Just not down there for the girls
What?
Yeah, that deserves a high, I think
What do you mean maybe maybe it's a good thing that you're confused with your kid
when you were there.
They're just the last tier of the world.
Like it's vacationing.
Yeah.
I don't know what's going but it's not going here at least.
It's not ginger dessert.
If you show your waist, it's valuable for a month bro.
In one and a half weeks I'm on a wedding.
What?
No pocket job.
Not again.
Wait.
It's his own wedding this time though.
No way. Is his sister getting married again?
Yes, I... I heard.
No, Samo's getting married.
Yeah, Samo's getting married.
That was some rad time of the night.
You're getting married to McDonald's or what?
I mean, I can say earlier I spoke to Mini and I asked him how he's feeling about the Red Lost in another two weeks,
and he said my flight is next week, yeah.
Huh?
Joe, it's mine.
You're staying, bud.
Oh, you're staying?
wait you don't want to play?
at this point you need to find an eel girlfriend just commit
what?
oh i have the find
who is the one in the pp team that just started the champ?
there is now an eel
flip mother time
what the fuck are you talking about?
flip mother time
whatever it is
i don't even want to
can i get a res?
okay
skipity tom
not the slip mother time
okay
can everyone train with the loot please
with the ludes please give me more
got em
and please double check to join the current character from the next boss
i can you can also save them this loot will be combined from the second verse
yeah that's fine
healers
farm farmer bro
no farm farmer is just that but
thank you
here's the comrades guys
hold it me healing
yeah bro i'm in luck
i like i'm in there like we were flying
I never shield wall at 4%
I came here by 30%
I should check if you are safe
I need Risen to get a beautiful balance
I can get a long health
No, that's mine
Where is my man talking about?
Just take a cord
Okay
Is that it?
Yeah, that's how it works
Give me a little cash
This is a split version character
I just gave it my Racer to Risen
Yeah
I mean I still don't know. It's summon everyone. I hope you're not on one character I guess.
This is a... it's sus that you didn't request this loot I must say.
I requested the...
You did? I can just request loot?
Yeah, that's what it was initially.
That's why it works.
I'm not getting around.
And there's a lot of people that didn't feel anything.
No, I didn't.
I requested the loot and I didn't get anything.
I put up something and I didn't get it.
Yeah, I requested loot.
I requested loot and then he puts it on us with very minor and plus shit
That nice means wasn't even in anything in the store. We had to breath in out. Yeah, no way, bro
I'm farming right now. Yeah, you're doing great
This is your run. Yeah
I'm just meeting bro
okay
he's losing on the middle check
what?
I won!
I made you look old man
I am old but flex is older
you have person item left on us bro
of course you can
why did you drag flex into it
he did that to me what was it like yesterday
or two days ago
he just said something and flamed me
for no reason
I forgot what it was
I'm a red pilot, you should all beat me, baseline
What happened to this blue marker?
Why is it tilted?
I can't summon my hat, because I don't have that on
I think I just parry
Red because it's on spec
Yeah, I don't have Felda, I'm not summoning my hat, it doesn't hurt, right?
Yeah, give me a quick shoutout for plus 9 musky
It's an LNG
You heard him guys, if anyone has a miski
this key looking for plus name is echo in energy last nine yeah I mean then I
can do it on Trotter than this channel I think you know that was a classic music
right now where's this wall I'm doing on my screen give it a ton miss blast I
have never seen someone over one million on the fucking next screen
Yeah
You're saying you're gonna jazzling gun in the end. Oh, yeah
Does this mean ten of one shot the other car segbroot
That wasn't him
Oh, I'm turning into furgo here second his loot. We're missing out. Of course
I know that team
Ah ha ha ha
Ah ha
I think coach first
I think hope first should be MP of the day
Thoughts?
I've lived with those bullslingers
I've lived with those bullslingers
I've lived with them
Dude, the only pull I tuned in
I hope it was right leading, I think it was after lunch
Wait, let me pin it
Let's try MP
I think it's under, I think it's under
I'm gonna get back to Mystic.
More creeps coming after this one.
Are they doing taunt like on the one early?
That's not the right thing.
Oh no.
Wait, don't!
Can I call Myst for Mystic?
Yeah, it's crazy.
I'm not sure about this one tank thing.
Bit more upon it.
I think we need the deal.
Fuck.
I could make it like 100% safe.
Thanks Mike.
But
Yeah, just the plot the spousalier broke I mean I have four bro
I do think it's possible with two tank
It's just whether or not you want to get to last phase more consistently and you have one good pull or you get there once
We're gonna live in a dice, you know, I don't know what's the best
Who is he talking to?
Well, who's blood do you happen to?
I don't know.
It's Hellman Trader from there.
He's acting even, yeah?
Yeah, he acts me.
Bro, I'm just sitting here. I'm a spectator.
I'm literally pushed to head.
It's what I mean.
Provide some valuable information to the red.
What do you think?
I think...
I try not to run from the red.
If I'm being...
Bro, that's what I was expecting.
Just jump off the building.
off the building no don't jump off if you rolled on route someone needs a pass
connects disco just pass on a ocean a new group up there everything under the
dungeons I'm keeping this food both it's extended traders for Trinket does
someone have thingy queen lockout in this group like any old it has now done
the first three and yeah I think you should look I mean I don't know if anyone
has
base to a shower the best advice I can give you is it's not just to meet you
my energy that's crazy yeah holy did he just net he American brain lag yes he
said the best advice I can give you and then you just stop talking he was
like yes the greatest take ever we need lockout or do we have to there's no
There's no base twitch chatter takes and they're all on the front in a second
Yeah, what is there no base twitch?
Tick
That's no all of every everyone in chat is smarter than us that is
It's sure especially in Mike's place
Double check that you're in the correct character
When a very sad it is dude gets grieved
I agree, we will all be very sad.
Just take the L, little bro.
Someone wrote the Spongebob, I said stay small kid, yeah?
Yeah, stay small.
Let the fuck up you fat fucks.
The guy with the mage profile picture.
Do you remember the guy?
Wait, did that guy back?
Nah, he's not back.
Which character would it be?
The rop?
Yeah, the minion.
There's also another guy like saying,
everyone in the top guild is exploiting.
Aco and Method right now is like fighting something as well. You just don't know what this
Something's a foot Jordan
We've been doing a little investigating. I've got a scoop
something's going on don't you tell me otherwise I've been I know I've been on
the internet we have no idea what's going on but there is something
suspicious hear me out okay what do you think's happening just to bring people
up today let's go through a timeline here I wish we had a whiteboard but we
don't have time for that but next step one both method and echo working
through this boss on method difficulty step two getting pretty good
progress very true step three they both go to splits for no reason at the same
time what's that about step four Tim will have apparently there's something
going on that's happening and I trust them all the place the thing is
apparently the players don't even know what's going on it's got told to go
for a split what are they hiding what are the officers what is Skype and Roger
Hiding from the rest of the players. Hmm. Hmm items items gold
That's about it. I'm sure treasure trove
I'm gonna say that your hat looks a lot better than mine yours actually looks like a bit of a choice mine looks like I'd stumbled into some
I think I look pretty
I don't know what's going on.
Alex the maiden, the tinfoil maiden.
Oh hot news! Hold on!
It was for velo.
Okay, apparently that's it.
Hot news, the split was for velo.
Damn it dude!
And that's the end of the news for today.
I want that to be something really cool.
Nothing cool, nothing spicy at all.
Done.
Just gearing a healer.
It goes it goes from being one of the most exciting things that have happened all day
To we're gearing a healer
Damn, but that's who gears healers though
No, it's alright you can well you can take yours off if you don't like it, I think it looks great with you
Thank you
Very good. I think that we're all going to lose in this expansion and Salataph will win
That's that's that's kind of accepted fact. I think at this point. Oh, yeah
You've got to come up with some really strange stuff to wear that hat nowadays. There's a strange and confusing place
Not as strange as confusing as both guilds going for splits at the same time. There seems to be a
Gum goblin as well. There is a gum goblin
Gotta be really careful you say that
Would say that very very fast
Would not say that
production telling me to say something foul on the stream I would never dare
this much I don't know what's happening anymore send help actually you could see
the visual for the shaman ancestral totem there the ang totem
animation is the radius of where somebody dies within they can get
rest. That's not a tinfoil hat theory. That's real.
That is real. Just in case. Because you're stamina as well.
Well, you're right. Because you're smelt, which is nice.
I remember I did a king's rest with a shammy healer, and we all ran away from it because
we didn't know what it was, and it was losing my mind. It was losing his mind, going,
standing at you not know the visual for my ancestral totem.
And he said, nah, sorry. Bye. When I first started playing this game,
a lot of the ground effects, I was just like, I'm not standing in none of them,
because I've been in a dungeon and I've died to ground effects so I...
That seems twirly, is that okay?
I just won't stand in nothing.
Of course every time you do learn that people get very angry at you.
Or just refuse to heal you if you do not stand in the correct ground effects.
I know. It does seem like there's only going to be one split.
So this is the hopefully final Queen Ansarek.
Yeah, we're just doing Ansarek. Some of the players that aren't in here right now
such as NiceMain so we jump over to him and his Grim Batol.
He's just about to finish that so I imagine that'll be the end of that.
The boss looks brutal. Oh god, that's brutal.
He's an incredibly good player. I am shocked to see he does not have like a group frame.
It's like the raid frames. He's just got the standard group frame on the left hand side.
I guess as a tank, you don't really need to care about the rest of your team. As long
as you're alive, does it really matter?
You choose what to pull and that's about it. Everyone else, just follow along.
And you pull everything. That is the correct choice always. You just always just pull
everything.
absolutely I hope that this no you know what they're doing they're also
practicing Queen Ancerok because we haven't seen her in the first week I
have a little look at Queen Ancerok we help over to a Queen Ancerok Pov or not
we're gonna stay here in Grim Pato I knew it I knew the production
you must fill out the apology form Alex I will need to all Pov switches need to
be sent in advance in writing business days. Nothing. I'm just I'm teasing you now. It would
be nice to see the rape off. If you don't mind. Oh no, 10 to girls. There we go. Thank
you very much. Thank you. We can see the raid. Very nice. Double spirit link. Yeah,
they're going to be pushing on through this getting this boss down as soon as possible.
So if you are just joining the Tim foil hat stuff aside, Echo halfway through their
prog on Kaivesa on mythic where they did actually mention get a new best pull. I think it was the
exact pull afterwards, oh no yeah one, they did one more pull afterwards and then they decided we
can go get Velo a little bit more gear that's going to help with survivability healer's having a real
rough time trying to stay alive so even some stamina upgrades would certainly be a good idea.
So they were told by one of their analysts were going to go to splits right this second
so they all popped off and did splits and then after this this should be the last of it
We should be going straight back to you.
Surely they can't do any more splits.
They will always find more splits.
It is the rule of the race to world first.
If in doubt, more splits.
Split it out.
They will do...
If in doubt, split it out.
Now to hear first folks.
Very productive.
Mitch is already having a go at us.
This is top tier, Mitch.
It's not getting any better.
This is the top of the hill.
only ramping down. Oh, absolutely. We've peaked. I think I peaked many, many tears ago. She's
been on a slow yet very noticeable decline over time. Just like the boss's health is right now,
as I try and segue us back to... Queen Anzorak! All right, lots of webs. Froth the Venom.
And foam. That's a point. And blades. Froth the blades. I love the blades
It's very cool. I'm surprised at how annoying it actually was like it can be easy enough when you're
Just watching just dodge forehead, but it does come in at some really really nasty times
Which is good can cause some issues, but there we are we're out of the
Phase one into the intermission the boss is slowly dragging you in you want to make sure that you're separated from other people
When they pull in does occur. Yeah a little bit splashed down on her. Yeah, there's a little circle around the players having
extra damage for anyone standing near you, so to make sure that you're very careful.
Oh.
I wonder, because whilst we're waiting for them to inevitably kill this boss, and if they
wipe I will cry, um, the, they have a little bit of an interesting situation where it's
safe to say that we're going into the second, we're going into the second reset, right?
And we're getting a bunch of class changes coming in, Shadow as an example, getting
buffed. Restored a little bit
getting buffed. And most
importantly, mages, Frost and
fire. Frost and fire buffed.
Probably not going to do anything
about that. But I was thinking,
do you think this is going to
be a case where, you know,
maybe they're going to be
strong enough that you may
want to very well look into
getting them some gear this
time around. The first four
bosses on Mythic are kind
of pretty easy in comparison.
You know, they're kind of
one-shottable for players of
this caliber with the amount
of gear that they have. I'm
pretty sure they can make a very decent alt raid and do a no meme and I know this is going to be like ha ha ha
mythic split
No, they've done it. They've done it many tears in a row. They always do it if they're going into a multi
um
Reset tier getting some characters that you think might be useful now that you've got into the raid
You've got some more information some class changes are coming in once you have that information
It might go you know what it would have been awesome if we managed to get um, you know
Shadow Priest it. You get Dotas Priest in a really solid spot so that you can bring that in, we think it's going to be good for Silkencourt as an example.
Absolutely, it makes sense. Especially with Sikran, only boss 3 dropping a very significant neck piece as well.
So, you know, they could be doing some splits on Mythic to get those key items on various characters.
It's two tier bosses as well.
Absolutely, it is, yeah.
it is yeah for both um Sikran and Rashanan both of them drop in tier pieces that will be a sizeable
upgrade most likely for the players involved oh unfortunately we do have a few people going
down there do we already have that one? Is it available?
I'm just going to rotate it be consistent thank mele mele I always predict it's mele
mele not mele where's the a it's um
Um, a confusing time.
In splits here.
Yeah, I was gonna, yeah, that's it.
I was going to try and sound intelligent and, um, but it's very difficult for me to do that.
So I gave up.
Just, uh, I, I saw the, uh, sort of intellectual hill in front of me that I'd have to climb
and I'll just say something worthwhile and I just decided against the effort.
So when I was on a hunt for tinfoil, I went down the stairs one floor and I came up the stairs and I suffered from altitude sickness from coming up. I was very tired, it was a lot of work to get this tinfoil.
What? What do you even mean? What does that mean?
What did he?
That's something outage, I think it's the difference in oxygen.
The outage is scaling the stairs, it's just really difficult.
go. Yeah, that's the that's like, sure. Give up. Yes, it's out to be the logic. No, in
all fairness, this is better than most of the logic I have. Well, the logic of that note
in my room, I don't know if they're still allowed to sell when that was the funniest
thing. When you say that we find out the exact text, right? So I'm not I'm not being
rude. I'm having a look for a particular picture after his long day. Casting splits.
goes back to his room and he has a note from room service.
Yeah, okay, so they did my room up, which is nice,
very nice, they gave it a nice clean and everything.
And so I saw a note and it said,
hi, Alexander, there was an accident
and a hole was put into the wall.
Please come down to reception
where we can offer you a new room.
So if you can be there.
I read that, and I was crying with laughter,
like, oopsie, there's a hole in your window.
And there's a hole being put into the wall.
Okay.
It's a little oopsie.
So, fair enough, I left a note. You know, a whole afferated. Now, that's not the strangest
part about it, is it?
What? How is that not the strangest part?
Because I looked everywhere in that room and I couldn't find anything on any of the walls.
There is a phantom hole. And I know you can make the joke, ah ha ha, Alex is struggling
to find, no, get out of here, that's Charlie.
No one would ever say that, Charlie.
No, actually, Medic already made that joke on his day.
Oh, did he?
It was briefly brought up.
Who...
So...
No, they just said...
It...
It...
What...
No, it was not a...
It was not a...
It was not a hole that was unabounded in such a fashion.
That's a nice way of me saying it, because I can't say that, I feel.
Wow, that was...
Hmm...
Yeah.
That was quick, wasn't it?
It was a...
It was not a hole that had won battles.
I was gonna go around this.
But no, it was just an accident hole.
Which is...
Not taking any other terminal that you can create, there's now a hole in the wall.
And it didn't exist, that's the thing, I looked everywhere.
Did you change rooms in the end?
No, no I'm still investigating, I'll let you know if any further developments occur to do with this hole.
Man, oh dearie me, let's move on to something a little bit more palatable, a little bit more reasonable to talk about.
For anyone tuning in, we are back into Heroic Splits, you are not missing anything.
Oh, Ring!
Oh, alright!
I think they're starting to get some, they want some gear on Velo on his...
Crit's actually very good for, um, Evoca.
Yes, Preservation Evoca does not mind Crit.
Oh, okay.
So that's a extremely good thing to drop for them.
I could look that up, but...
The Steel of the Poison packed being a very rare item that drops at a higher item level
than the rest of the loot table, but also very rare.
So it's nice to see it drop, as you said, a considerable amount of Crit,
but also having an on-hit effect,
putting poison on your target as you damage, I think.
I can't remember the exact wording,
but it's just a little bit of extra passive damage,
which is very nice.
Yes, very nice indeed.
I'm just reading through something, sorry, keep going.
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Your best dad joke.
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We've also got a $10 donation from definitelynotmedic who says,
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Pee-pee-poopoo.
Sincerely, not medic.
Thank you very much for that.
That seems to be a reoccurring message.
Um...
Well, there is a sticker here.
But I don't know where it's operated from, but I don't know if anyone else has seen this.
No, who's here? Where did that come from? This has been stuck here for ages.
Also says it.
Hmm...
Pee-pee.
Poo-pee.
Poo-pee.
Ha ha ha ha!
So...
The mystery goes deep.
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But the players right now for those who are just joining us have completed a random Heroic Split
which was for Velo's... A random just for a split! They got bored of doing the boss so they
just decided to go for a split but it looks like they are indeed regrouping ready for Nexus
Princess Kai Vezza, getting some good old prog in there. I do wonder how much stronger Velo is now.
He did seem to pick up a very nice ring as an example. I don't know if he already had that before,
but hopefully the increase in item level, being able to allow him to slam out that little bit more
healing and also survive maybe a little bit longer with the increase health pool. Absolutely, the
extra stamina is going to really help on this fight with that ability that will kind of
execute the player below 10% HP. So any extra item level, any extra stamina
is going to be incredible, especially when they get hit by unavoidable mechanics, right?
They're going to go drop a portal off. They're going to get sliced through and aim the ad in a
certain direction. Any of those mechanics, even the shadowy blazes that are put on the players in
general, if you can survive with high HP, the better, because then you are not so close to
the 10%, which is the scary range. That's entirely true. And of course, we can throw
it over to the Maxwell analysis desk for a little bit more information.
and good to know.
So yeah, thank you for that, Jesse.
Jesse, of course, a ghost.
Did you know that Jesse has been dead the whole time?
Oh, what?
There we go.
I feel like you need the hat.
Hang on.
I have heard that the hotel actually is haunted.
Have you heard about this?
No.
Oh, okay, so let me tell you all about this.
So, niche in production was,
He's staying on one of the floors. I won't say which floor just in case
He's staying on one of the floors and then he's he's been complaining over and over again
Let's say that he's in room 201 as an example
He's been sat there except the person in 301 is stomping around every night around three o'clock in the morning
330 I think he was saying just stomping around every single night
so then he was saying this but
strangely enough we have our good friend and
and a good friend Chris, who's doing lots of fun memes and stuff or flashback, he's here
and he's like, well what are you talking about? I'm in room 301. That's where the dramatic
music would happen. So Mitch has been hearing Phantom Footsteps for weeks in a room occupied
by Chris and he's not doing any something at all, which leads me to believe that Jesse's
a ghost. Please pull the bus.
They were saying, yeah there's someone stomping around. Chris arrived a little bit later than
we did and then Chris was in that room.
And still the stomping is occurring. I don't think it is Chris. Chris is sleeping. There's
something afoot.
There's a lot.
There's a lot of foot.
There's a lot of foot.
I'm sorry, there's a lot of foot, there's a lot of suspension.
You can describe it as something as a feat, because I want to die.
Oh man, hopefully that sentiment is shared by Kaveza, as it would be good to get her
down today.
That is certainly Echo's plan.
Yeah, they stepped out to get a little bit more items on Velo's Evoca, going back
into the raid now.
Now, as I was saying before, it's kind of a rinse and repeat this fight, and any progress
that they make, any practice that they get in phase one is going to carry through to
the end of the fight.
It's just a rinse and repeat.
So progress is always going to be useful.
It's not necessarily like a fight, a frack, for example, where you had phase one, there's
totally different phase two, there's totally different phase three, there's a learning
curve throughout the entirety of that fight, or the intermission, for example.
You know, if you're wiping in phase one, you're not seeing the phase two to get
progress. If the progress point is phase two, you need to get to phase two to practice it,
right? Yeah. And then you also need to see through to phase three to practice phase phase three to
practice those seeds, for example, want to fight like this, it is the same three thing,
rinse and repeat. Yes, this gets more and more difficult because you'll have more and more masks
to get rid of. So phase goes through. But essentially is the kind of the same thing. So
practicing is going to be essential. We need to make sure that we're getting through with
really everybody alive because they are one tanking, which I still think it would be interesting to see how the group filters in, see if there's any changes.
But while they are one tanking, those reses are being committed to resing now, who will take the tank mechanic, can't survive multiple of those.
So they have set in place the arctotum, the reses, so losing somebody else is going to interfere with their one tanking strategy.
Yeah, it's interesting. I'm pretty sure the comp should be the same. I think Fraggo, can we jump over to Fraggo's buff real quick?
He's finishing up an Impluse with Soul in there as well, so there's two players that you'll be bringing into the...
Nice to see how efficient they are, that even if they're taking a little bit of a break or they're not in on the split, they're in Ithic Plus.
They're still farming as much as they possibly can. Fill it up their vault!
I'm sure it was someone else's fault, Fraggo of course. Long time player would be not making
mistakes.
This boss is absolutely brutal. I remember the first week on Mythic Zero I was here for
probably about 40 minutes. It was a real struggle.
People are not understanding staff and to stand in the puddles to stop the go-getting.
No, yes. I was playing with two warriors and when the first poisonous goo would
go out there would have deaths and then struggling to find their little goopy
puddles to get so they don't get dragged into the boss and I was trying to kill
the ads in a way that was closer in the air it's just it's just a mess
especially the ads having a bit of chaotic patterns and then are we killing
them on the stairs because you have to stand in the puddles to prevent the
dragon and yeah it's just a it's a very punishing boss yeah it certainly
can be. Nearly used Jesse's joke there about dragons.
I keep putting myself in the situation. I would not make that joke. I would refuse, absolutely
refuse. So the players are indeed getting themselves together. I just think we're waiting
for the end of those dungeons to come true and then we will be getting straight back
in. So the players are certainly returning back to the desk so I can see nice memes
and Kush having a little bit of a run around as example. Fanna is getting some bits
pieces down if we could jump over to that as well actually that'll be interesting because of course
he is on a holy he's been known as that absolute rock in the guild on that holy power then in on
every single boss this time of course switching over to evoker because it seems like evoker
they just are a bit broken as to you can see um uh jingy yearning over the things that were
Taken from him so cruelly by blessed as he's looking at seven threads
You know if you do the crime
Yeah, you do the time which you did do at the beginning of this tier of course plan we had a few players
My brain, huh? I do the other half of that. I just it just didn't happen
Don't do the crime if you're doing black
Of course, not just the players experiencing brain rot here in Köln, Germany, no, it is indeed the castes as well as we are losing our mind.
Like I would prefer they do splits than have half a raid team stand in front of Covezza as if they're just trying to taunt her.
We're never happy, that's all I'm hearing.
Yes, that's true.
Yes, welcome. Welcome. We've known each other for quite a while, George. I thought you would have caught on by now.
I am here to complain
All right, what we find about here nothing looks like finishing off the dungeon. I believe that is that done. Did they time it?
They did indeed yeah, they had six minutes and 20 seconds raining fingers crossed for the loot that they want I
Assume that they are
Nothing I saw pop out
Maybe soul got something. Oh
Oh yeah, we have some boots or something that's dropped so
Yes, there you go mail boots
probably because it might be slightly
Better itemized and of course if they are lower item level than the gear that he's got currently then he'll be able to
Boost them up with just the use of valis stones. Yeah, because if you loot an item that's higher
You can then upgrade lower item levels. I think it's a much
significantly reduced resource cost. I think it's much less crests. I think it was no crests,
but maybe. I think you're right. I think it is less
light stones. I don't know. I think you're right. I know it might be. Not in a position
where I've even got gear that I can upgrade. Yeah, because all my gear is bumpy. You
are just bits. I'm bits. They spawn me in. As soon as I make my character, it's just
Filipe is straight away right now. It's the worst. I when was running the guild
beforehand it was I refused to take part in loop. Loop discussions hurt so much.
I'd raid lead as soon as the boss died. I'm like right cool next boss, you know,
like everyone's doing trash. Like what we need to talk about loot is like we can
do it while we're talking about trash. Nothing to do with it. Nothing to do
with it at all. It was always so so painful making sure the loot goes to
the right people because half the time it's just it's basically the same for
like three or four people you just got to randomly choose between them yeah you
know because it's not even necessarily people like because you when handing out
loot and I think in a normal girl situation maybe you know where people
are of like different skill levels and things like that you you have it where
the if you're not given loot is given the indication that you're not valued
as a like member which I think it's a very like kind of dangerous thought
process to go down of course people within echo and other top guilds won't
really be experiencing this because if you're in the guild in the first place
and obviously you're valued enough to be brought in if your class is strong enough
yeah it does feel that sometimes in top guilds you turn up you just get no loot
and it feels feels bad but at least you got mythic plus on the outside to
get some really really strong items nowadays. Yeah there's so many ways that
you can get gear now but yeah so you know there's lots of things that
people can be doing. I've been playing a little bit of Mythic Plus so we played
much. I've gone into a single keystone. I should be after this
cast today even. There we go. My words are working. I'm going to go do some Mythic Plus.
Probably play a little bit of Preservation. But yeah I haven't actually got
to experience any of the Mythic Plus yet so we'll get to do that.
They look to be pretty cool. And you can see all 20 members of the
I think we have the same Raider
now in 22 if you can't
Skype and I believe that other
person wouldn't surprise me if
that might be Potter's character.
I don't know for sure.
Yeah, it seems like we do have
the same raid composition as we
was running before the little
break. Excellent progress,
lads. Fancy a split.
did this. Floor. Big time. Wait. That's I've seen them spamming that with their wine time.
Yeah. Good pool. Time for some gels. No. No. Excellent pool time for some splits and they
actually did it. I think they did it for the meme. Oh my lord. It's worth it. I thought 100%
we both method an echo going for A. Yeah, we had our team four hats on because it was
extremely sus that they would have really good progress, right? Then just randomly go
into a split normally that something like that happens it normally is because
Blizzard have said let them know like oh yeah the raid right now we're gonna be
changing it in like an hour or two oh it's coming off so sad unwrapping it like
a Christmas present at the end it's not anymore it's just for that is just
true that is just true um but um yeah normally it means that the boss is
getting nerfed and i thought that was going to be crazy if this boss was going
to be getting nerfed with liquid getting it down to 3.24 percent yeah that's um
that'll be feels bad like oh we've reduced the boss health by five percent so
what that means liquid killed it or what you know it's a very very difficult
thing to kind of do when it gets so close to killing it even after 260
balls um i'm sure i to be honest i i i don't want to
speak for them because i don't know the players very well and everything
But part of me if I was playing in liquid and they did enough the boss. I'll be like well. Thank God because
That boss looks it's insane like the high level of play that you need a fair good truck luck is probably a bad
But you do need to have like yeah fortunate like the fortune can really favor you in this yeah, especially in the intermission
Right. I keep saying it. It's kind of the positioning of the
shadowy blazes
That's just gonna take that pull where it kind of lines up right and you don't have people overlapping each other in a way
you know you get it going in a certain direction it may perfectly overlap with the
shadowy slices and then push somebody into danger or keep somebody yeah it can get it can go wrong
very quickly and there's no like guarantee and especially when you don't have any battle resists
because you're using in the one tank shop exactly like even if they brought the health down in
such a fashion to make it so that you could two tank it maybe you can do tank it maybe with
don't get me wrong i'm not calling for there to be nerfs but i can understand if there's a
word to you know I think it would actually be a bit too spicy right now like if they were to nerf it
with liquid being so close to killing it yeah and if one guild kills it you certainly don't want to
nerf it until the next reset because otherwise it's like well we put in all that effort and now you
just allow them the competition to catch back up so um and to be honest I didn't even think that
the kills it didn't kill it say let liquid kill it yesterday and then they nerfed it now
I don't think the method or echo would be very particularly pleased with that at all
So that's yeah, it's a whole thing
But it looks like they've got all the players back into the raid finally
Apparently one of the most difficult parts about method progress is just getting everyone together
Yeah, ready check. They have got a ready check on the go. Hopefully that's sort of a mental pallet cleanser of doing a heroic split
Yeah, my mom has allowed them to come back in with a
invigorated sense of purpose and
and uh
Hp still the same reduce them down. Yeah, they're not enough of the bus. It'll be fun if they did though
Yeah
No one told us that there's no no we just had our tinfoil hat theories of like hang on a second
Splits in the middle of progress, but it could very well be that fellow was really struggling to stay alive as we're saying
There is the mechanic on the spike where the boss will do extra damage to somebody who falls below 10% HP and on mythic
that is lethal damage. I think it's like 10.2 million damage. So the extra stamina, the extra
iso level is going to give you more health and that's going to be very helpful in this fight
when you're taking damage from everything else just kind of keeping you a little bit away.
For sure. From dropping that, let's say. I wonder if they use that opportunity in that time to
maybe look into some sort of improvements as well. See players looking on their other screens
a little bit here. Maybe there has been a slight optimization. Most of the times now I'll
be shocked if we see large strategy changes but it'll be more like small rule tweaks and
also improve survivability whilst also increasing output so we might be seeing some of that after
a little bit of a break once again we don't get told nothing anymore the players are sick of our
shit and they refuse to speak with us so big sad um anytime i go in the room now all of them
just glare at me it's a bit rude wait till we drive that i'll see go kart into their feet
that's true we'll get our own back hopefully during some amazing progress
as we are indeed jumping into a pool
let us see whether or not velo's increased gear is going to help them
as we jump on in absolutely all right this phase
bread and butter in this phase is placing the shadowy
Persian ads that will then turn into portals making sure that they are
placed exactly in the correct points of the hexagon around the room
very nice to see them utilizing the design of the floor. I think that's always very good
that you can kind of coordinate the mechanics through the design of the boss room. Now you
need to make sure that they are taking these orbs out and they are positioning them in a way to
leave the center of the room the play area they have available free from the orb so that they
can just blast as much as possible for this tight DPS check and the mythic mechanic is that
Several of these ads will be glowing red and they will need to run them dash them through the boss to remove
That mask
Giving the boss a temporary buff if it's one or two if they run three of them through her it will be a permanent buff
You won't be seeing that till the last phase because you'll have ever increasing
Masks to deal with as we go through
So you're entirely right as they are dealing with the second out of three sucks for this phase
these charges here instead of going around in a nice little spiral formation
just go directly through unfortunately turns out that a small item level
increases not enough to deal with one shot as fellow does go down a battle res
going out for him a wise decision if you ask me it's better just to keep on going
even though we have no battle res is to spare because they are part of the
sack strat that we're using for the one tank strategy for this it's still
better just to get back into the flow of things ignore that keep playing
let's keep this momentum let's try and keep things going in a nice fashion
We can still get to the very end of the fight. We will just instead be sacrificing
Narko most likely coming up into the next phase
But we've of course got a very difficult intermission to deal with first we're scaring down incredibly low good spot healing coming out there
Time dilation on him as well as we're going to continue to plow on through melee is an absolute
Nightmare who have all of these registered dashes going through you have to play out of your mind
Every single time for 12 hours a day on this boss where even one small mistake can lead to a death
it looks like a success is on the side of Echo here because we pushed through that intermission.
Yeah, it really highlights how good the players are, something like that as they are having
those tiny, tiny little movements that are lethal. It's very, very nice to see them
actually gaming out of their minds. And so we are now in back into phase one, but we will
have the additional masks. And now they'll have to run two through the boss.
One of them is in a real rough spot. They didn't quite get the rescue
out in time. Part of the banana strap that of course if it goes wrong or is a bit slow
then as an evoker you're very likely to have one of the assassinations to be on you as
well because it only targets ranged players if there's ranged players available who never
target a melee player. Yeah I wonder how they can, yeah I was gonna say are they able
to fix this because the positioning is so precise if something goes wrong like that
It's very difficult to fix it and probably not possible most of the time, depending on where it's placed, right?
It's new, honestly, if the whole strategy is actually relatively easy to do, if you set it up correctly at the beginning.
And even setting it up at the beginning is easy.
They are making it harder for themselves by the use of this Evoca technology, where they're using Rescue, which is placing people in the right spots.
It's not even necessarily being placed by the Evoca.
not necessarily the movement that you care as much about it's that giant shield that you're given
a 30% shield from the evoker's rescue that is so so valuable but um hey unfortunately
occasionally it's going to cause us some grief yeah that that shield that they give is going to
be really really significant on this fight because it absorbs a portion of the damage
that that player will take from placing the add on the floor um and obviously we're trying to
prevent them from getting close to that 10% so any damage that can be mitigated is going to be
really impactful which is so different from how brood twister played with the damage reductions
not really coming into it the only outgoing damage being swirlies which was essentially a one-shot
and having a lot of healing absorbs so that entire fight was just healer throughput
healing through those healing absorbs and just that consistent aoe pumping across the entire
raid whereas this fight there's a lot of damage reduction and shielding that helps a lot with this fight
yeah I know you're entirely right this is one of the fights that you know in comparison to Brutus
where you wanted so much output healing here this is where like an old-fashioned
disc priest would be most valued in terms of just being able to apply a ton of shielding to the
group I haven't had one of those in quite a while as instead we are going for a very output
based healing setup. Yeah I suppose because it's just constantly outgoing I don't know if it'll be
on a cooldown rotation with the disc priest right maybe it just doesn't align with the cooldown so
well. Oh it is um tough to say I've really seen disc being um chone off too often in the raid
up to this point at least. Everyone getting put in the right positions that actually looks so
elegant when it goes right doesn't it. Oh yeah it looks wonderful well if banana tech works
well, it works perfectly. It works perfectly every time, 80% of the time. It's a little
bit rough. So the banana tech is one of the cooler little elements that I'm not sure if
liquid is doing something similar. I don't think I saw them. Part of me is a little
bit scared that it is just, you know, style over substance a little bit. I hope
it doesn't end up being something that they kind of regret in hindsight, where
they've spent a lot of time like how many wipes is it going to save like how many
pools are gonna go further ahead because of this use of this technology in
comparison to pools that are dead because of it is the rescue tech mandatory for
them to kill this boss probably not but they're still going for it they think
that overall over the course of a hundred pools it's going to be more
of a pro than a con because I suppose it allows the casters if that's
targeted with it to carry on blasting, minimizing movement, increasing damage output, which is
going to be very significant on this fight as we have the final portals.
Big suck.
Yeah.
Every time.
Big suck, everyone.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
The final big suck of phase one is they're going into the intermission where they
have to deal with the shadowy pizza slices, the shadowy blazes, making sure they're
not clipping each other.
Yeah.
do unfortunately lose one gamer here and they will have to make sure that they are not overlapping each other
you can see the uh arranged barely i mean it's still really tough but
Scruffy Roger not even uh mele looks like Scruffy Roger not even raiding at the moment
i i mean there's not really much to raidly just dodge
well scrub doing an excellent job earlier doing these step by step in terms of reminding the
the players the things coming up this is going to be the banana sets so get
ready to push your macro make sure that you have let the evokers do their jobs
okay the evokers are going to move you so there you go we're going to get put in
our position okay now you're going to be moving out now the Queensbane so get
ready to move out everyone else towards the middle this set of CDs coming in so
let's move out towards the edges don't all the time back into that
oh my goodness gonna give me a heart attack so now so we're all nice and
stacked up okay so for the upcoming charges we put them on the raid
markets these are sort of things that you know it's probably saying but he's not
this time I don't know what maybe he is is a mirrors maybe ray leading good be
yeah so if anyone's noticing that now the one tank is dying that is part of the
one tanking strategy so they will be now will be taking the tank swap
obviously there's no tank to swap with so one of them killing him outright and
They have coordinated the reses with the shaman anchor items as well to make sure that he is up and ready
So that's all part of it. You're seeing us lose the tank. It is part of the strat
We are sending the clones through
Very low Zazi fellow, please don't buy it going on two healers here is so rough Zazi has gone down
But that anchors available that he's gonna use straight away
Really really rough this also this portal right in the middle of the room might lead to a little bit of movement needed
Maybe not too much, but we
He just lost loads of people to that portal.
That seems like a thing that we wanted to maybe not have happen.
Yeah, well going into the second Starless Night.
Again, rinse and repeat. Very spooky.
You can see where the dodge in the slice is.
It could be very difficult to not get clicked by other players.
Oh, there we go.
I'm sure there was a reason that we had loads of people randomly die to a portal
that was quite easy to walk away from.
called already by that point? Maybe something had gone horribly wrong that we had missed?
It wouldn't be the first time. No, as you were saying it can be very difficult if the healers
have the queen's vein to drop the orbs around the outside because they're kind of
are they going too far away? I suppose if they're one of the far ones that are dropping
at the side of the room they may be out of range and it just kind of offsets them in general.
Well especially when you're running two evokers. Yeah exactly. You're not exactly going to be
able to spot heal the guy on the other side of the room when you're in a voca you're gonna
maybe even sometimes struggle to be able to heal the people in the center of the room.
So I don't know what the priority is, this might be quite an interesting question for
Jesse.
Unfortunately he's not here.
Thank you Jesse.
Thank you Jesse.
It might be quite an interesting question in terms of the success rate of the group
After two or more healers are chosen for the Twilight Charge, you know that Twilight, I was going to call it Twilight Devastation, it is not.
Oh, that was a nice corruption that people really enjoyed in BFA Season 4.
Yes, Twilight Massacre wasn't the name of the spell, the charges are.
So I don't know if by having more healers get randomly chosen for that, it leads to a higher chance of death because the healers are less likely to be able to spot heal because there's a lot of incoming damage going out at that point.
But unfortunately, yes, losing two players there far from nice.
absolutely, you can see Velo absolutely pumping the healing.
Avoka is doing extremely well this tier and I think the Fraggo and is it me?
Mayvoka, Maystein is both playing Org. They had a little bit of a swap around.
I think Fraggo started by playing Devastation but now they're both playing
the first support spec maybe the last.
We don't know. They've said we don't want to put any more support specs in the game, but who knows at this point anything had changed, but yes, a mid dragonflight with the Org Voker.
I was shocked when they just said-
They got lovely buffs across the raid.
I'm surprised at how balanced it actually is, because right now I think the Liquid on the Very Best Pool were running two devs.
I'm not even sure if they're running any of Orgs at all.
So the fact that both guilds are using different specs and still having great success
I'm going to show that it's a you know relatively not super crazy
I think Jesse was saying that echo within their own tests have come to the conclusion that indeed
It is worth for them. Otherwise, they wouldn't be using it right now, but um
And here's what it is. It's quite a difficult thing to work out
I like seeing the slight changes and we've seen with onbrew twister and kaivaza as well
They've swapped different specs in they've swapped different classes in they've swapped
different amount of healers, tanks and I like seeing all the small adjustments that they make.
That's a big part of progress for me. It's always very interesting. So we've seen a few
swaps and it seems to be what they've stuck with for quite a while, most part of today.
Let's get some of the progress in though.
Gingy rubbing his eyes there. Oh, you can get oh, there's a yawn. Look at that
No, you're not allowed to have any sleep. No sleep allowed all game all day
And that's the thing the mental toll of this boss because then you have to play out of your mind so hard
You need to be constantly on it. That is such a good point. Absolutely. They're doing this all day
So I was hoping that the refresher of going to do a heroic split would reinvigorate the players
We know how much they love doing splits is that favorite thing the only reason they do race
to what first is for those splits at the beginning. But apparently that is not enough for Genji,
who apparently finds the whole process boring, which I find to be rude.
Could you?
Could you. Of course the player is playing for a long, long period of time. This is day
five of Mythic, and of course we had a whole week of Heroic as well. Genji, not one
of those players who was there for the whole week, has still been playing for a long time
is what I'm trying to get at. I just keep finding holes in my story.
No, no, but with the heroic week right and I added a lot of time added a lot of
Extra play
Yep as before you know you'd get normal heroic mythic all at the same time
Which is how the rest of the expansion gonna play out
They're not gonna have a heroic week again at least for the rest of the expansion
So every new raid dear will have all of the difficulties releasing at the same time going forward
Could we jump over to Skype or Roger to see if they're yapping. Yep. There we go
Yeah, so there we go
our wonderful raid leader obviously has found something that they want to discuss and improve.
Don't know what that means. I'm not going to get involved in that at all.
No, I don't know what that means.
Yes, so they're going to be just mentally processing. They found something. They're
talking about it. It's small optimization that will hopefully increase their pulls.
I would love for them just to randomly pull out of nowhere an amazing new strat
But it does feel like from like I'm trying to be as neutral and unbiased here as well
The differences between liquid and echo strat is
Relatively chill, you know, there are some differences and there are some pros and cons
But both of them are sufficient to kill the boss liquid having spent a little bit more time on the boss has got it lower
And it seemingly I didn't watch their entirety of their prog
But they felt that they were getting bigger chunks off of the boss more frequently than maybe echo with echo only getting one new
Best pool today the rest of today has just been learning this one tank strap
Which liquid did put in first and echo has since adopted. I'm not sure if method have has yet
I think method are one tanking
Perhaps I need to double check. I think they are I
Mean if that's what's needed
You need to bring that extra DPS in because the DPS check is so tight and they'll need to
Find it somewhere it reminds me of Rhygalon where they had that incredible DPS check
The bosses are kicking out a huge amount of damage and they dropped a healer to bring in another DPS
So it's always fun when you have these tense fights with high requirements, and then they're like, you know what the healings quite
up in this fight let's just drop a healer we're bringing another dps that was a very very good
moment from the saboka race um yeah the feather we've already dropped a tank was surprising it was
really funny because when we me and medic were casting yesterday um he was just like another
thing they could do is drop a tank and i went oh my dear summer child he couldn't do that not
possibly oh yeah because i saw his message in uh a little caster chat and the caster discord
he was like you laughed me out the room however I have noticed it all funnest he's got he's got a
good vibe for these things a good gut instinct for where the prox gonna go because he's entirely
right I just thought it was um we haven't had a sack strat in quite a while so I was surprised
that it was something that we decided to use the classic echo sack strat oh is that okay it did
manage to catch in time I thought Zazi might have placed down that uh unctotum a little bit
too early, but no, it did manage to catch now. The longer that you can have that totem
down the better because the entire time that it's up it's increasing the health pool of
the raid and if you can keep people above 10% you're going to be very, very happy on
this fight. So getting the double dip from it there as I see a very clever use of his
cooldown placing it nice and early just so as it's about to time out it is consumed
by the death of Robin.
Yeah, see that amount of mid and maxing really, really is important on a fight
like this. So yeah, getting the maximizing of the health increase and then also using
it for what it's put down for
brazing now when he takes that
second. It's a secondary here,
isn't it? Of the tank buster.
We do unfortunately lose one
gamer here as the final portal
dragon. Before the intermission
of the chaos that it entails.
I'm not sure if now has got
the soulstone on him already.
That's one of the problems we
have in Zerbo go down
specifically being our only
place the soul stone on to now to make it so the res is nice and quick because of
course the entire time that Robin is dead the boss is in theory untanked so can
go around and slap some melee DPS that does seem to be a point where there's a
couple of seconds in which one of the DPS would be able to use some sort of
defensive cooldown or type other sorts that they can have it the boss for a
little while and we could also maybe instead of going for the death
strategy here we might indeed just have one of the DPS taunt it so we
What's interesting here is that they no longer have the Warlock to Rez and I believe the only other person in the raid that can Rez is Narkali on the Paladin.
Yep, because of course now can't Rez himself.
No, of course, yeah, but this is a little bit of pressure. There's no other classes here that can Rez.
I think if I was then you would have Plexus Ankh as if nothing happened, because it is a cooldown after all.
I would probably get an R code to taunt, but we'll find out here because someone's gonna die. Let's find out who it's going to be
Shredder coming in the tank busters. We do lose now, which is intended
You might have already have the soul stone on probably that was quite quick. That was very quick
So good job. We're gonna continue passing on through have no idea how we're gonna deal with the next death
That's gonna be coming up. We will have another battle res generated by then
I'm assuming that we can even get that file because this fight is no joke
You see the raid frames going ever so low that particular pull in doing a ton of damage
These twilight devastation charges going through the boss none of the healers importantly being targeted here
Hopefully leading to a greater level of success
Technically true, but still so sad they're gonna keep going they're gonna keep going wise as well
Yeah, absolutely. This is a lot of learning a lot of progress going on in this pool as they were going into the second
Intermission as much practice finding their feet finding their positioning is going to carry through for the rest of the fight
As we have starless night number two a little bit of a really problem with pop with kush here
Just seeing how chaotic it really is with the limited play space in melee, which is why you have a lot more ranged
Yeah, the thing is is that they've only lost one melee player
But they've lost three range players so even more of those blazes that are going to be the boss has to apply a certain amount of blazes
So everyone eat like you know, she's gonna be applying multiple ones
But we did actually managed to get through with no one dying at all. That is very very impressive
So shout outs obviously this is not going to necessarily be a kill, but maybe a new best for echo
Let's see how it plays out this last phase here though
Incredibly dangerous. They still do have a battle res available, but if narco goes down
That's it. No more battle reses for now because he can't res himself, right?
So we're gonna be in a bit of a tight situation. Let's see how it all plays out to healers this time having the
Queensbane unfortunately able to get back in with the suck going off making it so they're all nice and tight in there together
Before these charges come out you can see that we have all five ads here with the mask
However, we're going to get a hit the boss with two of them right now successfully done now going down a res coming in
from real classic, also known as Narko, doing his best to get the res out as soon as possible,
now accepting the res now, going down but using the Unkto, and did manage to catch him, they
might be able to do it, but that rifts in a really bad spot, and I do believe atomization
is going to be the word of the day for the majority of the players here as they desperately
try and reset the boss. No can do though, as Ekko do go down, the boss at 36%. No
new best, but at least we got to see phase three.
Yeah, no new best HP wise, but absolutely great pull nonetheless. It's nice to see a little bit more consistency, for example in phase one, I feel like that went quite well.
Yeah, unfortunately you could see with that final res going out now, how clunky that can be. It's the time taken to get the res out, because you haven't got the soulstone already on now to just instantly press accept on the battle res when it goes down.
Um, Naples has to actually use it and then now has to take it and then in those precious seconds
What's going to be hitting other people and killing them? So that's why they've kind of really
Streamlined and smoothed out exactly how the res is are happening and when for sure which is very punishing if somebody else dies
Yeah, which can happen. Honestly at any moment
It is I don't I do really think about the limited power res that we have available. The thing is that we've got some very
very, very punishing. We do
some pretty tanky classes though.
With those battle resins, of course,
there's only so tanky you can be to stop a one-shot.
So, of course, if Zoe does make a mistake, whoopsie, it does happen. So the Narko and
Narko are making that even more crazy. But if push comes to shove those classes, if
they have the opportunity beforehand to use their personals, then they are one of the tankier set
that you can get. Of course, with the immunity available for Narkley's on that
It's strange to see Narko being brought in for such a early boss.
They press the button.
He's doing some really nice damage and on top of that he does bring Devotion Aura, which is probably the most important part.
That raid buff that of course reduces the overall damage taken by the raid buy, I think 3%?
Yeah, it's a very nice DR, very important as far as we keep saying.
This is the way that this fight plays out, damage reduction being quite king.
It's the same thing with now on the Druid, maybe not the very best tank that you would want for this job, although having the Stampeding Role, the Druid is by no means a bad tank, but probably one of the deciding factors of having now in on a Druid is for the Mark of the Wild buff, you know, we do need to get it from somewhere, of course, Boomkins not necessarily the strongest single target, especially on a file like this where they're so squishy.
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
Boomkins don't exactly have the most defensives right there,
the bear form, which still, yeah, bark skin,
but Canex was still struggling to stay alive
with the unavoidable damage, placing these ads,
placing the portals, for example, with the Queensbane,
just absolutely annihilating him.
And even in bear form, you can't get the damage out.
So yeah, it didn't quite work out.
It's one of those things that when the boss fight
is this tight in terms of the output required,
They have to play this risky bringing a class that has to stop damage in order to go through into a defensive form
Is a little counter-intuitive I suppose to kind of bring it doesn't make a whole lot sense counter-intuitive
It's pretty scary when now Rez is because it's HP is so low which might avoid that 10%
I think when you get Rez is it 20%? I believe so that's that's an old question
Yeah
It's very scary just whenever I see now Rez they're just having that very very low health bar and knowing that if somebody drops
So each 10% they're going to get reaped. It's really scary to reach only top in the ASAP
Yeah, but of course Druids themselves are still in like a pretty good spot. They're constantly receiving more buffs
I'm not sure if it's on this reset
But I do know they're receiving more buffs feral's getting a little bit of a change as well now going down at this point
It's probably going to be the beginning of the end. Yeah, we'll click scoondown there
They're gonna if they can time tank up and start targeting the DPS now. I don't think I'm for reds
they're just going to keep going. They feel that they can get some good practice. Clicks
going down even though he's the highest CPS, absolutely slapping on the enhancement chart
in particular fight. Unfortunately, the reason that he died there was because he was doing
so much damage being second on threat that once what now died, Clicks became the new
tank, which you can only do for so long. The Earth Elemental was not going to save
you from the shadowy blades of Kyveza. Absolutely not. Yeah, it could have been
that there was no soulstone available on him at that time.
He actually died at a point where he wasn't due to...
Oh! That makes sense!
I think he died to a Nether Rift, so the portal, like the placement of it, he didn't get out
in time before it activated, or some shenanigans, I'm not entirely too sure what it was.
So it wasn't the intended Tang death?
No, no, not at all.
So that only happens on the first set of charges that we're going to be getting.
So we get these assassin nations come in now, which you see the banana tech going
out for and getting everyone in their positions with the rescues using the shields at
the same time. Bless you! Thank you and I sneaked but I didn't manage to meet in time. That was
a very well played. It was this upcoming Twilight... Do I have the charges? I can't call it... It's
Twilight Massacre, isn't it? Yes. I believe so, yes. Yeah, Twilight Massacre. It's during
this point that we expect now to die here, but instead I think you're going to see
Narko on Nice Memes Taunt. That was Nice Memes Taunted. Oh! He survived! Ooh, we
didn't even see the healers. Nice Memes survived for a surprising length of time after
I don't know if you maybe pop near the walk or something it'll survive a little bit longer if two healers down no battle res is available
Sadness sadness on the horizon. Yeah, unfortunately. Yeah, can we get down replay perhaps of what happened with nice beams on the tank?
Buster bags up. That's a little bit interesting
I don't know if we get that up and I'm sure if he's plumbed into our replay system or not if he is
Unfortunately, we do not have him on replay once again
Might go and check it out on the desk see what happened there
Good dude, it's very interesting because sometimes you don't know if they're kind of covering a mistake or if this is an intended change or some new tech that they've come up with, some new strat.
I can be on the couch. Bye Alex.
At least when we pan over to the Maxwell analysis desk, there'll be someone standing behind it. Someone's man in the desk.
Yeah, so Alex will have a little bit of a look at what happened there.
I, as I was saying, it can be difficult to tell whether it was a something,
a mistake happened at some point.
So they had to react and perhaps have nice moves.
Taunt, pop, Netherwalk perhaps, survive, surprisingly.
I'm here now, hello.
Or if it's supposed to be intended, that's what we're doing now.
I'm going to find the info because I don't know how this...
Oh, I found a log.
I'm going to find it via the log, as to what's going on there.
Unless we've got the replay tool working. Oh, stand by. Let me find out. We might have a replay for today, which would be good.
Then I can go straight to his POV. Yeah. Oh, what's happening? Oh.
Moderate POG. Let me see if I can find it. Oh, no. Well, we do have the ready check going out.
So we'll be going into another poll. It may not be too much to discuss. Yeah. And at this point,
we just need to slam. We need more progress. Come on, Echo.
What is it? It was that pool that just happened.
Um, did you do do do do? What is he doing to this?
Yeah, I've got this. Okay, cool. We found that.
So I don't know what they've got it set up as though.
Strange things has happened over here on the, uh,
Maxwell analysis test is I'm desperately trying to find where,
Oh, here we go. Is the death right?
Do you do?
Yeah, you have another lap as we are going into another pool.
They have absolutely cleaned up at least to start the fight.
fight and because this fight again is kind of rinse and repeat any clean phase
one can be a clean phase one of again repeating throughout the rest of the fight
as well or have the circles coming in making sure that they are being rescued
into their position very elegantly getting a 30% HP shield as well when
they are rescued which is extremely nice for this fight because they do take
quite a chunk of damage so mitigating as much as possible will be very
significant throughout this fight, dropping out their queen's bays, making sure those
orbs are keeping the center of the room free for plays. Everybody can just DPS as much as possible
and now they will need to run the mythic mechanic through the boss, the red shadowy ads,
will need to be charged through the boss to remove that buff before they go into the
starless night, otherwise dealing significant damage across the entire raid.
Okay so I've managed to find his death. He did pop nether walk, which is very cool,
So that's a hundred percent damage reduction for six seconds
So that's how he survived the actual initial damage
But that was not enough to stop the debuff the Casual Gash to be applied which eventually was ticking on him for two
million
Yeah, two million damage every second
Which is like a third of his health pool
So eventually he was finished off by a Reaper as he went sub 10 percent
So that's like not a long-term plan. He isn't going to be able to sit there and have those stacks forever
that's far too much healing for the healers needing to do but there we go so it was another
walk and then the dot finished him off and I'm going to come on over. Yeah I wonder
if we'll look out for that and see if that was kind of fixing a mistake or a more consistent
mechanic that they've implemented and a more consistent strat going forward. Hello, welcome
back to the couch and you're coming on over and we're going into Starless Night
Number one of this poll they do unfortunately lose one player
It's not supposed to be on the floor
Unfortunately, I need to inspect it. Yeah, I wonder if so it's just in a position where
Like it within the room. Maybe he's in a particularly busy area of the room him going down twice as over being an absolutely outstanding player
long-term player for echo and amazing wallop player as well
consistently
Getting the most out of that class seemingly having a few issues on this particular encounter. Hey, hope it does happen
As I say, I think it's more likely that he's been put in a difficult position
Rather than you know skill issue lol because you know Joe is an immensely good player
Oh, yeah, if we have anything like that, that's great. I'm a strong player
as you can see all the players getting themselves nice and ready and tight in this particular bit as the
rifts are pulling everyone together the first set of charges coming out here
none of the healers being targeted in there's something that we should
generally be keeping an eye on he as the when a healer is targeted their output
is going to go severely down during a point in the fight where the raid can
be taking a lot of damn but if you're dodging the Nexus blades correctly and
you don't get hit like Jinji nearly just did excellent dodge from him that
then it's not so bad in comparison to something like this where it really
You see Mae Voker going incredibly low here, but the output from the healers enough to carry on through
As we're gonna keep pushing forward
It seems that we did indeed have the tank death that we were able to circumvent
So now able to stay with us here Frago Thana or so many people low double healers being selected for this bit
Hopefully unfortunately going down to what I imagine was one of the daggers going through the room
But as long as we can survive this last rift
hopefully we should be able to see some second intermission gameplay which is
the same as the first but now we have two less players so those blazes are going
to be applied to the same people more frequently as we enter the starless night
yeah because the boss will be putting out a exact number of blazes if you lose
people you've often seen when they've been in the intermission and one person
has been alive they almost have this kind of elaborate star where they have
all the blazes go on them at once so there will be a guaranteed amount of
blazes and yeah this will put pressure on everyone else to deal with slightly more as they make up more as an individual player and at the
very end of the phase as well everyone gets a blaze on them all at once so it can be very chaotic
unfortunately we do lose one but one is still yeah one is still much less than they've been having for the rest of
progress today so no means but the worst thing about losing those players during that intermission is now healers are more likely to be selected
mechanics which is going to make his surviving harder so you're going to see the banana tech going out
there getting the people placed in the correct positions this is the last assassinate that we
will have for the rest of the fight all adds wearing the mask of death making it so we're
going to have to charge all of them through the boss at one point play is going to go
incredibly low here than being one of them hopefully able to survive with that gear that
was oh no that was bellow there was provided for in our most recent split but it seems like
echo have managed to get through the first part here comes now's prescribed death you can see
nice means taunting for this
particular element of it as
he's going to go down pretty
soon after his never walk
ends. So do not expect him to
survive much longer, but he's
going to do everything he can
to survive. It'll be
hilarious if you could survive
the next very five seconds,
but very unlikely. Here comes
the next grip. All players
alive. This is looking to be
a pretty decent poll.
Absolutely. It seems like nice
means is hanging on, though.
This might be fine. Yeah,
significant personal call
down here or externals
of the five. He's also got the
Twilight Massacre. He's going to
take so much damage. Yeah. See
it was only the viscera did go
through. So he has got the
uncle. So maybe we've only got
this last sucking before we
go into the next into the last
phase. The boss at 25% is not
looking too bad. Hopefully the
healers are able to keep the
rest of us alive so much HPS
required as the boss is
just put all of the. The boss is doing 50% more damage. You can see now going down very
understandably. Everyone here, every single one of these individual blazes is enough to
kind of one tap you. Yeah, I mean, look how much damage they're taking when the individual
blazes are going off across the raid. It is a lot. It was saying five ads going through
the boss means the boss is doing 50% extra damage at this point. So that is super scary
as the eternal night is going to be happening. Yeah, we've got a little bit longer left
until the boss then just goes into the super hard and rage. What an excellent pull there
from Echo though being able to get as far as they did as clean as they did. It's just a
shame that it just death spiraled so quickly. Yeah, this is what we want to see. We want
to see these consistent pulls getting to the very end of the fight, really pushing
on through. So there's an excellent pull for Echo. Got a few sub 20 pulls in today
reaching the very, very end, the eternal night.
Is it awesome?
Awesome fight this.
It is a shame, obviously, that the tuning being as it is,
I think it's probably spoiling it a little bit
for some of the players in terms of just how tough it is.
It's tough in a little bit of a way that it can be maybe
a little bit grating.
But I think spirits are still very high
amongst the echo camp here, which is excellent.
Yeah.
Speaking to a couple of the players here and there,
they seem to enjoy it.
Mm-hmm.
They seem to be having quite a lot of fun with this fight,
Even though it can be a death in an instant, it can be very chaotic in the intermission.
For example, if you get clipped because somebody else missteps with their blades.
Well, not even missteps.
If they have to dodge the shadowy slice going across the room and they need to move in a way that then offsets somebody else,
there's not too much you can do about it and then that player gets clipped.
I can imagine that it can be quite frustrating, but it seems like they are quite enjoying this so far.
You know, a big damage check.
What we had, we've got a change here.
All right.
Uh-oh.
It seems like it's being brought into the raid. Oh my lord. I don't know the name of the emote
that Chris put in but I hope it's getting spam right now in chat. It seems that we have indeed
had enough of not having the boomkins in. I told you at the very beginning of all of
this, if you're here for the pre-show, I called it like some sort of doomsayer that
I am. That's indeed, the boomkins always worm their way back into a comp and it seems that
Kha'Nix is indeed doing adjusted that an immense amount of damage. The survivability, no problem
for someone of his caliber. Oh my word. Well now they can kill it. Now it's a freebie.
Who do they swap out? I wonder if now is going to change from
Guardian Druid as well. If they're bringing Kha'Nix in, it could be that Al might be
changing what's character is playing but who did they take out that's also a very good question
we dropped. We dropped the DPS for sure. How can I be so blind I can't even see. Can we go to a player
who's been in the raid so I can see their raid frame? So we've got the four yep so that's normal
nice rooms in so we've got the four pages, double the vocal, no two vocals still. Chat is
definitely shouting us telling us exactly who it is production feel free to try them and if
you can spot it as well because it's apparently a two hunters not for a while
no okay I don't know oh mirrors has come in there we go is oh we lost um who's
playing the wind walker bunk oh of course that yes no that makes a hell of a
sense we lost swag yes swag on the wind walker who's actually playing our
stand only very rarely we have swag mechanically have any issues maybe we
you think that this way round is a little bit better for whatever reason.
We still need to get those raid buffs. We still need the Mystic touch from the monk increasing
our physical damage onto the target. We still need the Mark of the Wild Druid buff which
gives versatility to the entire raid. So it seems like taking now off of the Guardian
Druid and putting in Meres, we needed to swap the raid buffs as well, bringing in Cannex
over Swag.
Okay, let's see how well can it can do on this fireman. This is gonna be really interesting
It like in terms of raid utility
I don't think we've missed anything
You can still bring the stamp eating brawl as an example and the whole host of other see a raid utility that a jerk brings
Beyond this mark of the wild is add control, which is obviously not that important for this account
What means nothing on this encounter? So we should be pretty solid Mara's coming back in as well. Obviously not
like now doing incredibly well Robin on that Guardian Druid doing incredible on
that fight but it does seem indeed that we think that this way around is even
going to be mechanically superior as we have dropped a melee player making it
easier for the other melee that's very true yeah absolutely comp superior
because I don't know maybe the brewmaster monk plus balance shrewd is
going to be doing more damage than the Guardian Druid Wimbledon that's also
another thing to take into account but in terms of actual players and
things like that. Of course,
swagger doing absolutely amazingly.
Full salutes in chat for swag.
You have done your service.
Thank you so much. I think it's also a good showcase that they can bring players in and out like this on such a mechanically difficult fight as kind of as a and they kind of come in and even they they might be that say 100
in the beginning, but they come
in so seamless, ready for the
cool. You may notice even when
you're reading at home, um, you
have someone who has less balls
on a boss and they need to get
used to the fight. They need
to get used to their movement.
They need to get used to where
they're going and their
positioning. Um, there's so many
things to learn. And I do
think it's very impressive that
they can just swap players in
and out in this way, depending
on what they need, depending
on the changes that they
want to make getting their
major. They have all of the
covered as well and then carry on with their progress.
We're going to jump right into another poll.
Perhaps we can follow Canex for this because Mara's obviously is already a huge game and
has done this fight a fair amount.
But if we can do a Canex point of view and let's see how well he can survive, fortunately
I'm to get involved in the silly banana tech on this particular one.
Three he's getting involved though.
So this might spell doom for that generally.
But they're capable.
Yeah, because every time they're targeted to place the ads in the portals, they
also get the Queen's Bane where they'll be dropping the Orbs. So that is a significant
amount of damage pulsing out on them and they're also offset in terms of positioning. So having
three healers go out like that can be a little bit rough, but it is on pull, so I feel like
it there. What was the time to do it now? We also have the Bloodlust go out as well.
I don't know if we've necessarily seen them Bloodlusting on pull. Have they been doing
that today? Okay, they've been doing that today because they wasn't doing that yesterday.
didn't necessarily have a loft allocated okay so fortunately Mara's going
down leading to clicks being slapped was that not the intended double death
unfortunately all right whereas Mara's unfortunately did go down twice once
using the Angotin to Rez and then I think he just got slapped by something
else by accident so learning those timings is going to be important you
can see the bear form being utilized by Canucks there most importantly
because it does do so much damage that child but you can see him saying
relatively healthy moving out for the
Queen's Bane sending out that this
Ooh, I'm fortunate moving along the line a little bit there as the
Moe could have been the Warlock
Horsesaw, Summoning Horsesaw, just kind of off setting it a little bit
You're going to learn, you know, it needs to be down for a little while, yeah?
Absolutely, I mean, it looks so smooth because
they make it so smooth because they are playing
absolutely incredibly, very easy while watching
but it is by no means as easy as it looks for
for 100% especially this is the first intermission this is chaotic yeah it's a
little bit muddy of course we're going to be heading into an area now we're going
to have to start sacrificing people for on Meriz's behalf as we have used all of our
battle res is available that we did have available we have no on total
available either but it's worth pushing forward just because we need to warm up
Meriz needs to get back into the flow of things that he hasn't been
watching the entire time so mechanics getting back into the flow of things
unfortunately a demise for him as he was out and managed to get clipped by
one of those daggers that went flying across the room easy enough done as the
it's a little bit of but it how to do it let's see if we can get the banana on
the go as we place people in order those locations three healers chosen once
again not the nicest but when you have one of your DPS down your range DPS
that's more and more likely to happen but it is what it is I think the
assassinations being chosen at the beginning here I think it's better for
the healers to be chose for the assassinations than it is over this
upcoming Twilight Massacre. If you have lots of healers from the Twilight Massacre, because
there's also quite a lot of raid damage at the same time, then it can be rough. With Zazi
being chosen here, same with Ryzen. I imagine not a whole lot of cooldowns available. It
seems that Zazi is able to click on that ability. I can't remember the name of it, the Shaman,
DR, Astral something, to keep himself safe. What an excellent use of ability names. I
don't even know why I try to say it if I'm thinking about it, but here comes
the next pull-in. We're still able to keep going though.
Yeah, as they have I believe this is the
Second or no, okay now we have the final charges
He's gonna go through the boss. He's gonna. Oh, oh my goodness
Nice memes is insane. It wouldn't surprise if someone else size this guy's got tank dots as well as the Queensbane
Nah, like if he's gonna be doing that tech where he taunts and hopes to survive
He just can't be selected for the Twilight massacre
That is just an element of RNG that they can't do anything about but we have seen nice memes
surviving for ages with that debuff.
Yeah, that's really interesting if they're going to keep that because then nice memes are kind of not guaranteed to die but if he does get targeted and he's taking that amount of damage and he's not survivable, that's kind of a, but is a guaranteed death and he can't really wait for a pool where he doesn't get it, right?
You kind of want the consistency.
I'm not relying on him not getting it.
True, I think at the moment, instead of Marco taunting and just instantly 100% every time dying,
if they need to have someone back up for the tank because they haven't got a res,
they're instead having nice memes do it because there is a chance that we'll be able to squeeze through.
You know what I mean? It's like you have two backup strats, one of them is a guaranteed dead player
and the second one is a there's a chance if they don't get charged then we could spot heal really well
that we have a live player right? So one of them is like you know better than the other.
Ideally, we wouldn't have to use either the backup strategies though, would we?
So that would be ideal, but, hey Ho, as we're getting in and learning, it do be a little bit of relearning.
What would be interesting actually, and I don't know if you'd be interested in this,
is maybe if we throw over to some comms, have a little listen in with Wave
to see what the players are talking about with the addition of mirrors and cannecks.
And we'll be back in a minute, don't go anywhere.
This boss, it could die at any time.
Yeah, really, kid.
What's up?
PwT drinking stacks, that's no damage anyways
What the fuck?
No flame?
No works
It's melody thing you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, but we talked about like an extra to do on there as well
I don't want it
I don't
You see one to do even
Yeah, if you're telling me I need to lift another combo on top of one, then probably
Yes
Yeah, on that one, that's fine
Yeah, I'm in need
But do you want another one after that?
I think it's fine, but your third phase one, that one for TD is on the mirrors, it says mirrors on it as well, because that's when he needs to delay it for the...
I think that you should take the D on the initial hit, in your case.
When?
On the third initial hit, and then you can, because you're stronger with the box right after, it goes into your stagger.
You almost got the initial and the doctor and it's pretty much...
Yeah, I have to trinket right now on that one.
Yeah, but that one's good, but you use that one after.
I don't think you use it on the initial, like to be in diffuse, and then you just trinket,
just to smooth out the damage after the doctor, you know?
I mean, if you can't have it to be there, I can do that down.
The timing you told me before, what damage, or the one I told you was when?
Like on the initial, when when when...
Yeah, on the initial.
Mira is not the exact time I gave him, the earlier or later, how much time?
Yeah, it's probably now.
Yeah, that one is good. That is for the mission. Yeah, well, this 106 316, this is the mission.
Okay, that's already fine then.
Although you can keep doing the same sack Norco.
Yeah, the sack sack.
I have a question.
He like, striped the call of go to your marks,
to spread to your marks.
I hasn't so far but it might confuse people yeah because it's like through the
boss through the charges yeah spread your marks also the second spread is a bit
less important I feel like I think you just call charges through the boss and
ranged spread I think it's fine yeah okay I'd say spread yeah mm-hmm that was
good I agree could confuse we're just getting ready to come in right now it's
forming some balance on some other yeah I did what getting ready to come in I'm
just doing the great color both yeah another hunter we could use them all right
let's go all right okay oh he's not in a good machine oh he's all right
all three she's not gonna be a bullshit yeah offline is not good guys you
You know, actually, she like fucked this dude.
People will pair on this thing right now.
Is this PC X-PZ X-PZO?
Oh my god!
No, but that would have furthered, yeah.
For the NAKOGROD beam, I need to find this and clip it, yeah.
This was way too crazy.
If I just want to look like the boss, yeah.
A PC just said no.
Oh no, his stream is off.
Yeah, he wrote in the script.
No, PC X-PZO, I'm telling ya.
Quick goon break?
Liquid will stop at nothing.
Ruta's risk, guys. That caused for a P-break for the team.
I didn't really break yet.
Snack break or what?
Yeah, I was feeling the snack break.
I've been snacking for the past hour.
I took a break, I got a melee 5th, 6th and 3rd boss point, I just left.
Bro, I did one pull into break.
Come here, take.
I'm playing with shield, don't mount.
I'm going down.
We have to figure out the feral location.
At this point, we should hold it like every...
Should want you to start healing the healer should start tanking like we need some more role
Yeah, for sure. There's a moral changes in the roster. I think yeah, that's something for the next day
But I think it's a bit hard though. Yeah, or is it?
For someone who didn't play
What the fuck
He went extra silent, but we had to buddy back on time to kill the buzzer
I mean
But you need you need like a flow because of blood talents your AFK a lot because you need patience
What did you put there?
The first rally.
That was... 2... 1...
I think that's...
Wait a minute, I can just click it up to sell.
It's hard, yeah.
It's fine, yeah.
The boss just went...
I went to Hornigale, what the fuck?
I didn't have it, namely.
It's the Maxwell guy up to date. I don't know if he kill it or not. I'm gonna learn.
No.
Who was the fire? Why not out?
I can't see. I've done different numbers.
I had mine here.
Rago Volker?
He gets the ball.
I think he gets the ice and fire.
Oh, it was number two. He was really close
He was number one he was number one that way you were too close you didn't go to shape
Yeah, and you were number one at one in the front and I killed my person
Confirm we go to the shape. Yeah, and let's go
Which I want to look really
Yeah, I actually was wondering the same character, I had to do this one.
Alright, one, and you were supposed to go to the shape, but you're here, and you did not go to the shape over here.
You stood there, and then boom rised.
Oh, that should be good.
You know where the shape is though, yeah?
Yeah.
It's, okay.
Well then.
Well then, I don't know, I guess you were stressed or something.
And they go again, yeah.
Cannex's assignment.
I guess I could go in the row with blue, that's what I was saying.
So I was here, well now Narco, you can be on blue.
I mean you should go to meteor.
What are we talking about right now?
Cannex.
Intermission.
No, you're not moving.
No, you're not there anymore.
Yeah.
Let's fix this image because like all the bunch of wrong people, Robin, Alive Marus...
Okay, I mean, okay, that's not...
Bunch of wrong people is Robin and Canex, huh?
Why am I wrong? I'm trying to... Don't disturb me, I'm dumbing.
Careful, it's back.
What do I do here now?
That's me now.
Push?
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, so excited.
Oh, no.
Honestly, put a fucking dragon there, you're the healer. I don't know.
If they're playing fine, they're not dying, just put a dragon healer.
Where's Kha'Zix?
Or like, put Ryzen, they can heal everyone. I don't know.
It's dope, they're so good.
Kha'Zix is fighting in the setups.
This is the great one.
I can say.
Dola.
Yeah.
Are we killing it?
I mean, you can put Kha'Zix on my side.
Oh, he's doing shit.
Like, and...
Oh, he's scratching in and out the whole time, like...
It's fine.
I was, uh, in double-slick.
It's okay.
Yeah.
They're awesome.
You can put them on my side.
I mean, he needs big spot healing anywhere.
He just needs to know what he's doing.
Yeah, that's awesome.
I'm making my spot heal.
Make him big.
Make him big.
Make him big.
I mean, technically, the opposite of Merus is good, technically.
But then again, DH, AD, AD.
By the way, from Narko.
I think this is good if you want
You can't know if you're not close enough
What?
Why am I getting targeted into this entire place?
I'm in range of all healers
Yeah and you're popping nature's vigil
This should not be
This should not be
I'm not playing nature's vigil
Are you just playing like this?
Yep they're not married
Yeah they're trifecta up there
And Mastin can rescue
I don't know if you can.
I'm gonna cut a little bit my fingers.
I'm pulling on one.
Alright, I'm just sending this for now.
I don't know.
I need one.
I'm gonna end up with a solo kill and push that range and I feel like...
I'm gonna get something in second.
I think that's like...
That was for them.
With one less melee, it's illegal to die in the intermission in melee now.
Neely is free now.
Neely is passive.
You know how this gets, same as the expansion, passive.
Nah, but I don't know if he's so conscious.
Just play on top of Vexi.
Like you just...
Don't you just have to...
Don't you play about your casting anyway?
Yeah, that's why.
And then, I mean, if you close to me, you will never die anyway.
I'm swapping.
You can try.
Let's go guys.
Ooh, that image will look shit.
White skins, though, are faddling in this region.
Yeah, we're pulling.
That is faddling.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Race to the World first here in Cologne, Germany.
I am Alex from Fapples CV, joining me is the wonderful OK, Mage.
Hello.
And the even more wonderful, actually equally as wonderful, chief over on the macro analysis says, I like the better the better.
Oh, it was a lie, sir.
So we've been in discussion this entire time. We haven't been slacking. We've been talking about the changes that they made and maybe the potential reason behind bringing in the miss, miss we were sorry, the brewmaster month because we've taken Robin out.
So now it's out on his druid and we've brought Marys in on the brewmaster.
And because of that we also swapped Swag on the Windwalker with Cannex on the Boomkin, so we've got Boomkin gameplay once more.
Yeah, we need those Rude buffs, right? We need the Mystic Touch, which we now have from Merus, instead of from Swag.
And then we also need Mark of the Wild, the Rude buff, giving everybody versatility to the Cannex now instead of now's God injured.
So it seems like a little bit of a, you know, swapping one for another, but they are jumping into another pool.
So it might be worth talking about exactly because you've kind of a very interesting theory for it, haven't you Jesse?
So maybe why wild speculation? Yeah, we did have tinfoil around here somewhere.
I could use tinfoil hat. It does look like we're in a pool if we want to watch that.
Okay, let's go to the pool for now, but we'll have a little bit of a chat as to why we think
Merus might be in. We might even see an example of it if we get far enough into the pool.
But so far so good and you can hear how like considering how rough this fight is and how
they've spent 187 pulls on, you know, the same six minutes of a fight over and over again.
On boss six, by the way, this is absolutely, I love it. I mean, we had Brute Twister, we
now got Chyreza, we still have the Fnaltima boss, we still have the final boss Queen Ancerac.
I just absolutely love it. I love how the bosses are tuned. I think Lizard have done
an amazing job because this has been such a spectacle for the race toward first and
it's been a joy to watch. I think it's a good tuning for the people watching at home,
But for anyone playing the game right now. Oh, no, it's great to watch. I wouldn't play it. No, thank you
Even if you're a like a guild that has done the first four on mythic
It's great to know that the next two bosses are unkillable maybe for a week or two wonderful news
But unfortunately Vela going down there. We don't have a better res available. We may very well be using it actually
Because we're under the assumption that maybe the battle res is on or as important as they want to
We're talking about that in a little bit.
We're resetting the boss.
Never mind, maybe they are quite important.
Oh no, she's teleporting back.
The outpour. Oh my goodness.
A mask. That's why we were resetting.
It's because of one of the adds to the dealings.
You can see Flex getting assassinated
from all directions there.
That's very interesting though, because I don't know if we've had too many masks
not going through the boss and to demonstrate
what happens if you don't clear them.
So there you go. Big explode, big boom.
Big, big sad. But we might have some big info
info or at least wild speculation from the macro analysis desk. All we have is wild speculation.
We're doing that buff juggling that Jordan was talking about, right? We take a druid tank out
with a monk DPS, swap it for a monk tank with a druid DPS. Doesn't seem like a large gain,
in fact, so I was doing extremely good damage. Truly to tell with Kenneth having very many pulls,
if that's a DPS minus, DPS neutral or DPS positive swap, we don't know yet.
speculation about what they could possibly gain from a tanking perspective right because the big
thing happening right now is that the boss requires essentially perfect gameplay from everyone because
you can't afford to use any battle reses on anyone other than the tank because you get three
void shredders per phase phase one phase three phase three which give you a debuff making you die to
the next void shredder that debuff resets in the intermission so you have to live through the
second void shredder of phase one and phase two and phase three they haven't been doing that right
So you onk totem the second void trader phase one then you put a soul stone on him
So that he can battle res the second void trader of phase two
Yeah, and then again for the second void trader phase three that means you have zero battle reses
No one else can make a single mistake, which is extraordinarily punitive
Some alternatives that could potentially work that we've seen happen a little bit
If someone dies like a healer that they have to battle res you can use a dps to taunt the second void trader
And we've seen nice memes prove he can live through that
Oh, yeah, if you if you nether walk or otherwise immune the void trekkers
You still get the debuff and you take God damage, but you immune the tank damage that would have otherwise killed you and
You can conceivably live through that with enough externals and personal uses. He did successfully do that
So you could see a gameplay where you trade instead of a tank guaranteed dying on the second void trekker
You have nice memes nether walk the second void trekker phase one try to keep him alive
If you fail you've lost nothing except the void the battle as you were already gonna use or the ontom
you're already gonna use. Yeah. Then on trod them the second one and then try again on the third to
see if you can keep them alive. That's an option. The other option it looks like they're experimenting
with is seeing if mirrors can live a second void shredders on his own. The issue there is that
means he's given it out of the third. I was about to say, yeah, doesn't that just push the
problem further down the road? It does because they did have a pull where mirrors successfully
lived through the second void shredders, which I don't think we saw Robin do at all.
Oh, it's just occurred to me.
Yeah.
Oh, I've got a brain blast.
Unk Totem, you use it at the beginning of the fight.
It's not actually up for the second tankbuster in Phase 3.
It will be up for the third.
So in the third Phase 1, you might try and keep Merus alive so that he dies to the
last tankbuster via an Unk Totem and then that way you have one spare battle res.
You're exactly right.
Oh my goodness.
You have nearest die to the second void shredder of phase 1, onking up, putting that on cooldown
until the third void shredder of phase 3.
He has to successfully live through the second void shredder of phase 2, but then he dies
to the third anyway and has to take a battle res.
I might try to start to the second.
I don't know.
Yeah, it doesn't gain you much.
He takes a battle res, but then you can use the onk totem if you can live through
it on the phase 3 one.
And that would save you one battle res.
It gives us one battle rest.
The issue is that the one time he successfully lived through a second void shredder, they did
it through an enormous application of externals such as time dilation which is basically like
stagger it takes the damage it would have done stores it up distributes over the next
time and then he died to those externals he died at the time dilation so they haven't
found a way to replicate it successfully they're just delayed his death not preventing
it to the void shredders.
Yeah there's so much going on behind the scenes there is so much gripping and
bubbling away as they are testing all of these very intricate ways of getting
through the fight. So is there's a lot of progression you can't necessarily just see from watching right?
So it's very interesting to go through it bit by bit like that.
Yeah I think it could also might come down to just very simply that they think this combination
of classes is going to be somewhat of a smaller upgrade in terms of output or survivability long
term. Obviously it's difficult to kind of make out because also we're bringing in players who
haven't played this boss for a while. Kaneks and Meras haven't been on this boss for a while.
Merus hasn't done a single of the one tank strategy Merus going down right there
I think is to show that we are indeed not going for that
Particular survival or if we were going for that survival it was certainly unsuccessful
We were able to continue pushing on through here clicks
Unfortunately dying in the intermission is going to make it so that we are down an incredibly strong damage dealer
But otherwise everyone surviving into the second set of charges
It'll be going straight through the bus this time you see canyx
disengaging or using the version of wild charge that we could use when they disengage
comment with the name of that behind the ad on the opposite side so important that
you're getting behind that ad because of course otherwise it's going to charge for
you you're going to take double damage and the twilight massacre is not
something to be taking lightly. What's very interesting is that cannex is
surviving much better than he was yesterday. Yesterday we could see him
kind of going into bare form so frequently and still barely surviving
no pun intended but he was easily doing a lot better today. It might have been just filtering out a
little bit more gear so that he has a little bit more stamina higher item level. Oh, unfortunately,
Fraggo crossed the 10% threshold. Don't think so. Dropped really, really low there as we are
going through the second starless night, the second intermission. This is super spooky.
this soon ending, dealing with the final pizza slices, the final blazes. We do unfortunately lose
two more gamers. We don't have a combat res available going into the third phase one.
Yep. So we're going into the very last version of phase one that we'll be dealing with here.
I don't even know how to characterize it.
As a second, we do have battle res available, so we are going to be throwing that out.
All the other players do need to get in position with one of our vokers down. However,
This is going to be pretty rough.
Thanak just not taking the res.
Maybe they are going for a wipe, and Thanak's going to...
Okay, I'm confused.
We're seeing...
I think there's Fraggo out there that just used his deep breath to like reposition.
The whole thing's a bit cooked, not going to lie.
This pool is looking a little spicy, but they're going to continue going.
This is like your pool, if you ever did see one.
It's worth giving a go, but Mara's unfortunately going down there.
No way of getting a res on him.
That is a time in which it is part of the strategy that he goes down,
that was a mistake from Mera's but unfortunately due to the mistakes made by others throughout the
rest of the phase means we do not have the resources to get him up and we won't be able to
for the rest of the fight so this is going to be the beginning of the end unfortunately for
Echo. A couple of things have come to me as well since the small things have popped up in my head
as to uh it's very rare that an idea uh operates in my mind but um yeah I was thinking
in terms of the use of the boom kit. There are a couple other little bits of pieces, they
have Innovate which might be nice for the healers a little bit which of course gives
them some time. I'm right in saying that Innovate is still just, you get free cast
for a little while right? That is how it works.
Yeah, I think it's a short duration and they don't cost mana. The spells we use during
that duration don't cost mana, is it?
Yeah, so we have got some healers that can really, really go crazy during the
use of Innovate. So like at a point where healing, if only I could use my really
expensive heals and spam it out during that time. A good time to have a boomkin in for that reason.
As well as Heart of the Wild, I did actually see it being assigned for the second intermission there.
There was a little pop-up saying use Heart of the Wild here, LeMau. Which of course gives them
the capacity to do quite a lot of off-healing as well, if need be. Maybe that's a reason to
ring a druid. So the the innovate doesn't work because Guardian Druids also have an
of anivate. Oh. And they were using it. So they traded one
in a way for another one. That one's not a work. It was a good
idea. But the parents can do the innovate. Also, no hard of the
wild yet. Oh, I'm curious what that could work. But not yet.
The best reason I can think of if it's not about somehow
trying to do some kind of tension and against to save one of
the battle rises that is otherwise committed to dealing
with the solo tank situation, if they're not going to do
that, then the only thing you really gain is one less
melee. Yep, which is nice. Because melee is scary. We
We do have a lot of melee dying because too many stuck in that intermission means it's
very difficult to dodge all of those regicide blades.
But it is thus far a fairly significant overall damage loss to SWAT from the Guardian plus Windwalker
to the Brumaster plus Boomkin.
Oh okay, so maybe something that we won't be looking at long term or maybe something
that we haven't really seen the purpose.
We haven't seen the payoff yet.
Yeah, it could be.
Absolutely, it could be the case.
Yeah, so earlier sometimes, you know you swap classes or you swap specs and you expect it to work just as well
As when you're playing your main for example, you give it one go and go nice
That was good and you give up
But then you just got to get there with it a little bit give it some time get used to it a little bit more
But come as just as familiar and the payoff can definitely
Come into fruition later on as they will be whoo
Trying to keep everybody alive some people dropping super low there
but they do manage to get everybody back to full health dodging out these lions and the orbs.
We do lose merit here.
We are going to commit a battle res to this.
We could potentially go with the idea that Nice memes are just going to taunt in the next phase
and hopefully be able to survive.
But of course, this whole thing with Nice memes taking the tank buster,
in theory could work every single time, but if he gets this Twilight charge on him,
then it is so painful because not only does he take the big burst of damage from
from the charge itself, whilst having four stacks of the Dot,
let's hit him for two more every seconds.
He then has Queen's Bane whilst he has to be outside the group.
Yeah, it's rough as hell.
You really will avoid that, ideally.
I think it's still a good idea to try to have him specifically taunt
and immune the second void charters,
because instead of your tank guaranteed dying to it
and guaranteed losing that battle res,
going on nice memes is a 50-50 coin flip.
If he does get a charge, you lose and use the same battle
res you were going to use anyway.
If he doesn't, he lives and you've saved a battle res.
I wonder if saving a battle res is more important
than just making it so we just guaranteed
don't have a DPS die to a part of the strat, I suppose.
It's like, I can see it as being a better use
of backup resources.
You know, something's gone wrong.
It's better to have nice memes do it
and potentially survive than have Narko do it
and that guaranteed die
just because of the class resources available.
I wonder if that's something
that they're gonna be looking to doing.
Unfortunately, two players going down.
Zaxi is gonna commit the untouch.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, we did lose Zaxi,
unfortunately it did have an unavailable but we do unfortunately have a dead clicks as well
yeah I mean this is pretty good boss health right click still top of the damage meter even though he
has been in the Shadowlands for the last 10 seconds just going to show how strong he is on this
particular fight not only just enhancement in general but thanks being an outstanding powerhouse
of damage. Unfortunately taking an L on this particular pull, it does happen. It's very
very difficult there in melee.
Yeah, so we'll have the charges now going through, taking two at a time, having four
in total, so they'll be doing two and two, dashing them through the boss, making the
boss do additional damage. Was this the point at which we were expecting someone
to help there is?
Yeah, so this was maybe the nice memes cover.
I wonder if they called for the idea of let's see if we can get you through it, mate
Let's see if we can get you to survive and he just fell over they need to practice it at some point right so
Absolutely, maybe we can have a look if at all possible Jesse at all of the defensives that were thrown onto Marys on that last tank
Buster on him there whether it was just a
GG go next or if they did actually try to cheese their way through with a
Crazy amount of DRs and it was just unsuccessful and that'd be good to know
I'm just gonna have a little look for that for us
So far, so good. You can see four, well five guilds. I don't think instant dollars is playing
just yet. I think they're only in the evenings now. I think they do like one day raid or
something. Yeah.
Memory from the Raider IO page. Yeah, doing a powerhouse guild made up of X-Race to World
First Raiders who didn't necessarily want to day raid every single day, but still
play at a very good level. I mean, they're still fifth in the world, so they're doing
fantastic. But yeah, just evening raiding for them.
guild so working on this boss here Covesa it is incredibly incredibly
difficult liquid of course in the 260 pool range of course pool count isn't all
that important the this this is one of the bosses where you can fall slam face
all the time and it's incredibly strong have you got something for us them a big
zero they just let him die there's not much you can do to save in there the
The only thing that can work is that we've seen thus far the one time he lived through a second void shredder while debuffed
He popped every every person he had fortifying damp in
Diffuse and a time dilation. We didn't use anything there. So I have to assume he just was ready to go
Wonder if something went wrong previously and he'd actually used one of those
Defensives a different part of the fight and didn't have it available. So couldn't then survive
It seems to be a recurring theme that this strat is
we can't use, we can't make any mistakes because we need to use our combat reses, our defences
at certain points in the fight. It doesn't allow any wriggle room for mistakes at all.
So you know, something slightly goes wrong tanking wise and Meris has to pop a defensive
and he can't have it to potentially live through that second void shredder and any
of the DPS make a small misstep which is bound to happen during the intermission
especially. We don't necessarily have the combat res either. We can't really spare
that combat res so this is a very punishing fight. It's scary.
One thing I'm really really excited about is the Chinese Guild Hu Guao Heroes I think
is pronounced. Apologies if I screwed that up. Their item level is absolutely insanity.
The 623.9 average item level. Crazy, crazy gear and also they've just been playing
well as well. I'm not sure if that's just because of the gear helping them through
some of those more difficult encounters but we have had it especially in the last
few tiers. Of course many good guilds from that area of the world, of that region of the
world doing very well, guilds like Skarling and whatnot, but it always feels that because
of the delay in which they get the game in comparison to the rest of the world, it always
feels that they are that much further behind. The fact that they're keeping very similar
pool counts and percentage wise as well, really wouldn't surprise if we saw that
guild jump ahead of everyone else. No joke. Which would be, that was not on my bingo
card going into this tier, but it was very, very exciting to see so many good guilds
really pushing the limits of what is possible in this game and it looks like Echo are going to try
and do just that as we are jumping into pool 191 lucky 191 I'm sure as 100% Jesse has confirmed to
me is the kill and there's nothing is that true Jesse I think it's true guarantee no comment wonderful
that's what you want confidence absolutely you can see the bloodlust committed on pool as
as they have been doing for the rest of the day.
It's no longer the progress loss,
this is going through the kill.
Everybody's cooldown's available at the start of the pool,
so it makes the most sense to be popping it
at the very, very start, most out of the buff.
You would, yeah, generally bloodlusting on the pool
is best because it's when all your trinkets happen
to proc as well.
Everyone always has CDs at the very beginning of a pool.
But there are times when, of course,
if the boss marries dying there
as part of the strategy, don't worry.
There is times when you do want to bloodlust at a later point because you're going into a more difficult phase, etc.
But trying to line up all the DPS CDs, it's very rare where you can get the same exact amount of output that you would get from using bloodlust on a pawn on a fight like this.
Yes, it would be awesome to have bloodlust going into that last dance phase.
But if you actually think about the output that you're going to gain from that dance phase, when you're doing the last intermission with the eternal darkness of all of the Eclipse pizzas, as well as the Regicide things,
chances are you're not actually going to get that much damage out of it because you're going to be running around like headless chicken and probably be a bit nervous in comparison to ooh
it's unfortunate losing ravers there we might continue going we'll see but um the
it'll be awesome for healing as well so if we could get the exact same output but move the bloodlust to a later point in the fight then that would be something that I'm sure the healers would very much appreciate
appreciate, but I don't think it is
mathematically I'm sure they've mathed it
out and they've they think it's best
just to keep it on the pool which makes
a hell of a lot of sense. Yeah because
you know in previous fights if you have
a phase that transitions based on boss
percentage health and you want to push it
at a certain time the extra damage on
pool is kind of doesn't carry well
over to the rest of the fight you
want to push it a certain time you
might push it too quickly so you don't
really want to commit the loss there
or you may have a vulnerable damage
window for example or ads that need
to die, for example, Psydenathrius in Castanathria would have those adds in Phase 2 that really
needed to die. So that's usually when the bloodless timings change, just to pump as much
damage in the vulnerable damage window. For example, in Silicone Court there would be
several of those. But yeah, with this fight kind of just being the same thing, rinse
and repeat the whole way through. Damage at every point of the fight is going to
be useful. So popping it on pull when everybody has cooldowns, it makes the most sense
as we have the first drag in the second phase one.
Yeah, well, I guess we can call it phase two, right?
Phase two, yeah.
Because you can say phase one, intermission phase two,
intermission phase two, I guess.
Phase two.
Because in theory, if phase one, phase two, phase one, phase two, phase two,
they're dead.
Yeah.
Unfortunately.
We lose too many players here.
Yeah, it felt...
Occasionally, things are going to go wrong.
We've got to accept that, but having deaths to the initial charge targets is something that we really want to avoid, that's that.
Was that a misplacement?
Yeah, there was either a misplacement of the initial ad, or someone wasn't standing correctly on their charge location.
I don't think the markers had put down incorrectly, but these are the sorts of mistakes where I can understand.
I got hit by a blade.
I can understand that the bombs, the balls from the Vissera, from the Queensbane is going absolutely everywhere.
Fair enough, getting clipped by that.
misplacing your position for the charge feels like something that we should ideally not be having mistakes to that's feels like something that we've solved a long time ago you've been charged a million times before maybe it's because the person didn't have adequate CDs or maybe people are clipping each other
you're playing on a bus that
requires such high amounts of
focus and consistency. The
sex will happen when you play
today, but yeah, um, we don't
want to see any more of those
words, please boys. So no more
charges. No more charges.
There's also the case of like
there's kind of a chain
reaction, right? It's a
little bit like Razageth
where you have these
elaborate chains of
abilities set up to prevent
the knockback and prevent
certain classes from getting
blown off of the platform.
platform. For example, you had the evokers rescuing the priests who were then life gripping
other classes who couldn't necessarily survive not being pushed off of a platform. And there is
an element of that in this fight, especially the evokers carrying various players to their position.
If something goes slightly wrong or something goes slightly off, it can then
rapidly snowball our control. As we'll see, we have the evokers placing everybody nice and
elegantly. There we go. Getting everyone into position. It looks really cool when it works.
And in all fairness we've been a little while since we've had a banana strat mistake, so fingers
Not like this. Yeah, that all the time is a little bit scary
Back into the portal that's gonna be reset for sure they're consuming the
Total was a mistake. That's that's one of the things, you know
Jinji been playing out of his mind all day doing these really flashy plays is necessary flashy plays as well
not just doing it for the memes, you know, the altar time incredibly strong in terms of survivability there
and unfortunately sometimes you have a whoops and when you have a whoops you go oopsie and you go
again oopsie yep whoops next pull please next pull. Talking about the item level though of Huiguao
heroes I'm interested to see exactly where that did come from you know I'm not I'm not suggesting
that there's anything shenanigan worthy there but there is like that level of item level is
incredibly impressive. Getting two item levels, more one on a bit, item levels above the rest of the guilds.
Almost two item levels higher than the rest of the guilds.
I would love to see what their gear and strategy is, I'm sure we'll learn more about that over time as the race continues.
But it is really good showing, so obviously they've spotted something that the other guilds had not,
or they've managed to, I don't know. It feels like that's a little bit beyond luck, unless they did something where they have a completely different way of doing splits
or a different way of doing gear and strategy entirely. So that sort of gear increases is
incredible. And the fact that they're putting it to good use as well, it doesn't matter
how much gear you have. This boss is still going to one tap you in lots of different ways.
So it's important that you still play very, very well. I'm interested to see how they
do as they are 31.8% with Echo in third currently with 17.8 method doing incredibly
well.
I'm not sure if they don't think they're going to extract this yet.
Yeah, I'm not sure, but I think that is a new best pull for Method, right?
I think they were closer to 17.
Oh, it was the same, I thought they were.
Oh, no, they did have your entirely right.
Sorry, 17 percent.
And I think it was about like 20 minutes ago or so, then they got that pull.
The fortune would seven.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's nice to see them having some progress too.
It's nice to see the teams kind of battling out side by side.
As I keep saying, it really does feel like a race
as we're going to make sure that nobody gets sucked into the portals, finishing off the ads
going straight through the boss. This is very nice positioning here, sending all of the marks,
all through the boss.
Just lost Revvers there, unfortunately. He was one of the players who was targeted for
the Twilight Massacre. Not entirely too sure what caused him to die. That seems very
strange, actually. I think maybe he got clipped by the ad that was behind him or
something, but I thought it was actually on the side which only had one ad anyway.
it was like in the one opening. So it's honestly felt like a ominous breeze passed through the
area and took him out. Not entirely too short, but we're going to keep playing through.
Closely assassination figure.
Yes, you can never trust the Nexus Priest's disguise desert.
Yes, we have intermission number one. As you can see, melee can be very, very congested
and super scary. One misstep can lead to be fatal as they'll be dodging the slices
that are going out each other's beams placing the them in a way that they
don't clip anyone else and making sure that they are playing happy feet let's
say little sections of the room these little pixel perfect positions and we
are going for the reset here it's a shame because that was such a nice
intermission but obviously we've rising going down there as well and we're
obviously gonna be a little bit of a rough position as Revis was also down
Every single battle res being mandatory, but otherwise a very nice intermission
It looks like it's magic when they get through it
This I keep saying it but it is really rough that any small mistake a small miss position is
Fatal and you can't afford to lose anyone because all the battle res is a pretty much counted for and the DPS
Jack is so tight that you can't necessarily afford to lose anyone anyway, so this is I mean
been on this fight for what two days now? This is the second day I think, well I think
we had a little bit of a big time. Main days. Yes, we killed Brute Twister two days ago
and then they did like a little bit of offline pull-in as they was trying out this very final
fantasy-esque way of dealing with the charges and then of course we had all of yesterday
and now most of today so yeah two days so far with this boss. I don't actually hear
here in the comms, Scripe used the word Boss Relative, which any Final Fantasy's out there,
yes indeed we have managed to completely plague the way that they refer to bosses now.
Any M14 fans? Wokage?
Yep, of course generally the best strat being Black Mage Relative of course.
Yeah obviously, a Jast please.
Yep a Jast, healers are Jast most of the time, always.
No, maybe not always. If we look over to the analyst desk, we see a healer who definitely does not adjust, and everyone can adjust around him.
Oh, it's also happening when you were raiding together.
Jesse is a DPS. He just happens to have healing buttons.
Oh, right. I see how it is.
White Mage does do a lot of damage. A lot of damage indeed.
Especially if he doesn't heal.
Especially if they don't heal.
Those excellent times where the shield healer has to do all the work.
And the thing is you don't have any opportunity of that in this particular fight in a WoW.
This is not a fight where anyone gets to chill out. There is so much healing needed.
It's been optimized to an inch of its life, still a very, very difficult job indeed.
It's an incredibly experienced healer on this team, still sometimes just not able to get all the way through it.
optimising in every kind of way as they send the final masks across the boss here
and they will be going into intermission number two just after the portals there
we go portals over going into second intermission let's have a look let's go
we can do this okay so there's intermission for those who have maybe
not been paying too much attention it's actually very similar to the
intermission that you have on heroic difficulty actually mechanically speaking there are no
changes not like a listed change in the dungeon journal of course if you have the reaper go off
you're going to die very easily and there's a lot more of these blaze lines called regicide
which absolutely annihilate the amount of damage these two are incredible to the fact that if you
don't have like a personal or you're not topped incredibly quickly afterwards you're going to
struggle and everyone is hit by one at the very very end than unfortunately going down
We'll probably expend a battle res on him and maybe we're going to try this nice memes taunt tech on the next tank busser that is due to come out half way through the first set of charges.
So let's keep an eye on that, see what they do as we're going to be using banana tech to assign everyone to their positions.
It's just a silly code name they have where they use a macro and it populates a weak aura that allows the evoker's to place you in the correct location giving you a nice big shield.
Hopefully no one's going to die to the damage here because it does do quite a lot, canyx going low, but of course that spirit link coming out from Zartzi, doing the Lord's work, keeping everyone nice and healthy.
Here comes the Chargers. Let's see if Marys goes down here or if Nice memes taunts. Let's find out.
Yeah, let's see if they've got that backup already, because they unfortunately didn't have to.
Okay, seems not. So we don't have any battle resist for Marys here.
I don't know if I was making a mistake but we didn't get the taunt out but it feels like
every single time we got to this point now we haven't even tried once to back up for
Mara's. Maybe they really are trying to get him to survive but he didn't even survive
to 6 stacks let alone 8. Which is what he would end up with.
It could most definitely be that they are trying to keep him alive in the second
flash in phase 2.
Maybe.
Yeah they could be giving it go and shove in.
They do need to progress it right, they do need to test it out, they need to
everything into it and see if it works? It feels like though, with the people that are
alive at the time they could have made continued a successful pull by going for the 50-50 on
nice memes or even more than 50-50. There's only five people that are selected for a charge
and there is a potential of 18 targets. So that's what, like the event just being
rough, that's like a 1-3 or something that you might be targeted, even slightly less
odd. So yeah, that's not so bad, you know? A third of the time it'll be absolutely
fine if you're nice memes and you talk to the boss and you survive with Nether
walking everything in comparison to marriage just you know checking out what the flaws
doing at the time a little bit more up do we see if they went for the ham
amount of CDs or they just decided to eat purchase you just died okay yeah
interesting I would have expected a nice piece on there yeah yeah I don't think
we can afford to be that picky with we need perfect Polish you know especially
if there's the potential to get through maybe they thought that there was
literally no externals for my nice meme so he was going to die anyway but even
still that they could continue the pool of practice at that point allow cannecks to
get a little bit more used to it allow mirrors to get a little bit more used to
it yeah because you know it's different losing a tank when they only have one to
losing let's say nice memes the demon hunter it can probably get through much
more of the fight with the nice memes dead as opposed to a mirrors dead
curious and curious the obviously the natural state of the cast is to be
confused by probably very simple things right now I think it's a little bit of a
strange one happening right now here oh they did try he just missed the top they
did try another rocket oh okay it was like personal timing error fair enough
okay there enough I was gonna say that would have been a strange one to do but
you know that is a backup strategy ideally we wouldn't have to be using it
unfortunately having to use the combat res earlier in the fight I'm
just glad we're not all puzzled for no reason. That would have made no sense. I'm glad it
makes sense. I just like the world of makes sense sometimes.
I have never lived in chaos.
It's very rare what it does, but I like it when it does. Being aligned with the thoughts
of the players feels like a pretty difficult task overall, but I think it's nice when
the occasional sign wave lines up.
Alright, going into our next poll. Come on, we need to get some significant progress.
have had what about 60 pulls today was it? Yeah it's well tons of pulls today
absolutely tons of pulls. Yeah I mean it can be these these fights this fight
happens so quickly you can really really rack up that pull count because it can
go wrong so early with how punishing it is if you lose one person you can't
afford to commit the battle res so therefore you know it's kind of over
at that point and if it's over that early you go again and then that can
rack up the pull count so yeah it's a very particular very fragile fight I
really like the way that you added it earlier this is a very fragile fight
And of course every Blalatath you type in the chat does increase the damage that Echo does to this bastard
Feel free to get them spammed out, that little kitty
Oh, Meriz is supposed to get down at that point
Yeah, sometimes you see the tank dying and everybody just panic
But this is the intended strat versus the time that Meriz is supposed to die
And get rezed by the Aunt Totem that's already laid on the floor for him
It's just a cast of things that if I see someone die I go, oh that person's gone down
It's like, no, that's supposed to happen, Alex, shut up
All that person's gone down, oh no it's the tank, oh they've already got one!
That was the intended death for Meres there.
That's what they all say.
Yeah I meant to, it's part of the strat.
Easy, Narko only dying when he chooses to.
That's to make the fight not too difficult for the boss.
Wall life going incredibly low there.
Luckily he did not die, that was very close to the reaper.
See this is why I couldn't play Helix, I just have a heart attack every time somebody's health drops.
And I know on this fight when they've reached that dreaded 10% the boss does ever it would reap the person deal
10.2 million damage. There's definitely death
Looming as they're going into the first intermission now
Making sure they're dodging all of the shadowy blazes shadowy pizza slices just everything really soldering a ton of damage
By the way, I think it's worth pointing out the
Oh, yeah, I'm right here one of very very strong class on a single target encounter getting buffed in an a we situation as of next week
Unfortunately, we do lose Kush due to some series of unfortunate events. It is what it is. We can continue without our rogue
We may very go for a rez on him and then the whole nice means taunt thing
But I think it's more likely that it's long term better if we probably just leave Kush on the ground instead
Just use that rez for Mara's
Yeah, we you know, it's a little bit like if we have a healer die between now on the time that Mara's is gonna die
Then we could try that nice means things where if we rez Kush right now then the fight is definitely over
Absolutely, and we don't necessarily need everybody alive to get quite significant progress. We can potentially see the end of the fight, right?
With however many people are dead and that's going to be really important.
Yep, unfortunately with one tank, one tanking it's not exactly like, well, you can squeeze in one more DPS,
but they are a much needed part of your damage profile as a guild here.
We are going to see mirrors likely going down at this point. This is one of the anticipated deaths.
There he goes, uses the soulstone towards the boss like nothing ever happened.
easy peasy. But hopefully we can just have people survive.
Ooh.
Now, they're coming in very, very close.
Mera's wanting to keep the boss towards the edge of this central sort of section as to
make it so that, of course, the rift is a nice distance away from the middle, making
healing a little bit easier because you don't have to use those small little micro movements
to keep away from the portal. Here comes the next set of charges.
They're going to go straight through the boss. Only one healer targeted for this
particular one, that one being Velo.
around the other humans to keep us up. Yeah absolutely, they need to make sure that they
are taking the orbs in the very particular way that they're placing them, so they kind
of go around everybody in the middle keeping that nice and clean.
Sorry, that noise was so spooky though. I don't know what noise I just made, but I'm
hot. Second stage two as we're going into the second intermission here, same as the
fast in theory there isn't an increasing amount of blazes as far as I'm aware but
there will be a slight increase in the amount of people getting targeted for
blazes because Kush's blazes aren't going into the ether they aren't being eaten
by the twisting nether they're coming straight back out being applied to one
other person here so someone's gonna be dealing with slightly more blazes than
usual hopefully it's someone who has the damage reduction needed for it but
here you go everyone getting blazes right at the end hopefully everyone
can survive so unfortunately being chosen by Kveza to go down but with
only two people dead going into the third phase, not too shabby. Once again, might not
be something that might be of a kill range, but this might turn out if they can keep this
clean to be one of Echo's very best pawns. Easier said than done though, because the
end of this phase is nasty with the amount of damage that the boss does.
Absolutely. It's nice to see them have this pull where it's a little bit more
consistent, less people are dying throughout, and they can see more and more of the
fight get that practice in. And in this phase they will have all five of the as
emblazoned red as they will have the masks that they need to clear by
running through the boss they'll have the two and then they will have three to
clear. So did they successfully manage the tour? Oh that's another walk on nice means instead of using the battle res on me. Interesting let's see
oh I'm talking to them. Nice just by delaying the death by that little bit
nice means able to stay up there so we do actually have a battle res available
which could be key going into this last phase.
The boss is down to a very nice, tidy level of 26.5%,
but let's not count our chickens before they've hatched.
We do get the combat res on Cushion.
We do get these bosses, the double healer being chosen
for this Twilight Massacre,
and the boss now doing 30% more damage to the entire raid.
These Queensbanes are absolutely gonna decimate
the players that they're on.
Hopefully they're gonna time out soon,
and hopefully the people aren't gonna die.
Hopefully, hopefully going down pretty low.
Here comes the last sucking with these last rips, sub 20%.
All right, the spirit link goes out,
trying to give everybody, ooh, portal.
No, they're looking good.
Yeah, looking absolutely amazing.
The boss does have the permanent buff now
as we go into the final intermission
and making sure that they are dodging
the shadowy pieces like this, the blazes,
giving each other enough space
so they don't accidentally clip over each other
and staying alive.
We do unfortunately lose nice memes here,
But they are absolutely annihilating the boss. This is a new best pull for Echo here.
And you can see them absolutely doing everything they can to dodge these Eclipse cones as well as still of all of these blade regicide lines.
Players are going down one by one. Zutzi on the floor, unfortunately, with Reisen at the same time.
Hopefully Zutzi is able to use his Ankenor to get the group up.
But the boss is a tunnel knight. He's only lasting for three more seconds before here comes the pulsing damage on the group.
9% a new best for Echo.
Wall life doing everything he can to get that boss that little bit lower.
Merr is refusing to fall into the twisting never.
But unfortunately, death comes to us all Merr as the boss down to eight and a half odd percent.
Merr is finally falling eight point seven four percent a new best for Echo.
And that's with DBS dead for a long time.
There is light at the end of this tunnel.
They just need to keep up those sort of pulls.
That is absolutely what you love to see.
We need more pulls like that.
We need more consistency seeing right the way through to the end of the phase
like that. That is a really, really good amount of buzz percentage knocked off there, as we
were saying, the new best try. And that was with a few people dead throughout the whole
fight.
Oh, yeah. It's nice to see that sort of thing.
Oh, sweating it out. I might be doing anything.
Time for, that was a great pull.
Next little pull. Time for some splits, lad.
I think we need to have one more split just to calm our nerves.
May have some delves.
Just a little delve. Just one delve to wet the whistle.
very kindly to mayhaps, not, uh, incite that, manifest through our words. Perhaps one shut
up, just for, just for good measure. Um, mayhaps one mute for the cast, please. No, that was
absolutely fantastic. They're the sort of pools that we want to see. You see, there's
nothing more to discuss apart from let's go again and not die. If you look, they,
they are showing cushions damage who unfortunately did die early. If he was alive throughout
that entire thing, not blaming
that entire pool on kush.
Obviously in no way shape or
form. We did have other deaths
with sol and other players
throughout the entire thing as
well. Um it's incredibly
difficult. It might as well
be rolling the dice as to what
Mallie. Do we lose this time or
what range do we lose that time?
But with all of the players
alive and of course, Jesse
might be able to map this out
a little bit for us anyway, but
with all players alive, that
looked to be on a decent pace.
Absolutely. And we did have the
taunt come in from nice means
as well. So they managed to get
that in there effectively as
they unfortunately had a missed
taunt. So we had a missed
taunt. So we had a missed
taunt. So we had a missed
that's the unfortunately had a
previous pool. So we're
struggling a little bit with
that. So they managed to
successfully execute that nice
little bit of tech that they
are implementing as well. We
have a little bit of a
discussion. I mean, there is
quite a lot to talk about,
right? That was a very
successful poll. One thing I
really like about the way
they're using the young toe
now, not only are they
pre placing it as early as
they possibly can in phase
one to just clip mirrors
as he dies. It's like
literally got like a second
left as he falls on the
floor from the second tank
But when it gets all the way to phase 3, that allows him to put it down as soon as he possibly can.
It's not enough for the actual Tank Buster that is going to kill Merres,
but it is enough for someone like Nice Memes to take and die to the Dot afterwards.
So if he takes it with Nether Walk, then dies 10 seconds later.
The Unkto will be down to catch that death.
Meaning that in theory we are double Unkto to Min, which is giving us the...
Oh, don't you dare!
Roger, no!
No!
We're watching you!
Don't you dare, mate!
Not that! We see you!
Hang on a minute, look at that mischievous face!
We are in the same building!
I will come to you!
That's the uncrowded face!
Just get him!
No!
Just throw him!
Um, no, it's like the, um...
It does basically allow them to double cheese, saving them a combat res which can allow
someone to be resurrected who is very likely to have died on the journey to that last
face too.
So, um, Roger, obviously a big smile on his face.
Yeah, you know what's really nice?
we've had a nice little break there's such high spirits in the building and
laughing they're having a while of a time and that is a wonderful seat because
this boss can be I mean it could potentially go the other way right where
it can be extremely frustrating every single minor mistake and misplay
leading to fatal if you really you know one small misstep you're dead pretty
much very punishing boss but they are having a great time which is nice
no they really are you can see especially when they can they finally
managed to execute in such a way that it wasn't perfect but I don't think we've
ever had so many players go into the last phase for Echo. We've never had 18 people
all alive and as soon as we got into that phase people started dropping my
flies but we still got them without many people. That's a new best that's
something that is wonderful to see so hopefully we can keep doing that as
we're going in for another pool. Pool 196. Echo getting 8.73% on their
last pull so an incredibly, incredibly successful jump. Let's keep up that consistency as we
are going into the next pull. We've got to keep up. I know this is a very taxing boss
and it can be exhausting to play over and over again all day and maintain that laser
focus that's required for a fight like this. Let's get another solid pull. We need that
consistency because we have your first orb shooting out. Keep in the middle of the
the room very nice and clean and they're gonna be running at the first set of ads straight
through the boss just one this time I believe you're gonna see running one through the boss
and you can see Mara's going down here hopefully just as the aunt totem gets him there as well
literally perfectly timed I don't think you can get it any tighter than that so he's
making sure he dies exactly when he's supposed to that's how pinpoint precise they have
managed to get this flight after a hundred and ninety six points yeah I've noticed it's
kind of when the boss turns away and fires the lines across the floor so it's a second
of breast fight where Marys can go down. There's not going to be a melee hit from the boss.
Can Rez ready for when she turns around. 100% these charges going directly through the boss
here, hopefully not causing any un couple plays going pretty low there. But otherwise,
not so bad. Now just time to dodge. It's actually really nice to see canyx surviving
a lot better in comparison to yesterday with every single unavoidable ability that
goes on him that he gets targeted by was absolutely annihilating him. He was dying almost every
single time through no fault of his own of course. But yeah his survivability is a lot
stronger today.
Yeah something certainly unlocked whether it be the gear or just a little bit of a more
detailed look at exactly how they play the fight. The longer a fight goes on the more
strong the healing becomes does allow the healers to then maybe begin to take in
classes that were otherwise you know not necessarily the best picks for the beginning
progression but so far that swap seemingly paying off these beautiful micro movements through this
intermission it's terrifying a little dance well please don't die velo easy okay really really low
that was a really lovely elegant check out the boss health oh my goodness 64 percent what was out
of interest do you happen to have for us um jessie over on the max row analysis desk the
percentage that the boss left the first intermission on our very best pool that'll be a
nice little check point that we can constantly refer to a little marker. They are getting
rescued into position dropping the ads in the correct places so the portals are nicely spaced out
taking out the orbs placing them in a way that allows the most room for everyone in the middle
the spirit link going up as they are getting dragged towards the portals now they need to
clear the masks off of the four ads that they'll have in this phase.
Oh that charge went wrong. I think we might be wiping. We'll find out. Meris did die in a way
that's supposed to be normal. Maybe we're okay actually. Maybe I missed red, but I think we're
supposed to be 2-2 and we've still got three ads up. Yeah, it did go wrong. So you can see
we got three red masks ads up, which means the boss is going to get a permanent damage increase,
Which means we're gonna wait yeah, we can't have the three there because as you were saying, you know
You can afford to because that's a temporary damage buff if the boss gets more than three or more then that's permanent
Avoid that in the last phase because you do get five ads you can have your force to clear the three
But can't have that for the rest of the fight. So this will be a reset
Reset indeed sixty five point five percent left on the very best. Yes, and I think that time was actually quite similar
actually so yeah cool cool it'll be something to keep an eye out on so thank
you very much for that. I need to have binoculars on that. Interesting stuff incredibly
interesting stuff as it seems that Echo have managed to have some of the pieces
of the puzzle click together. This is very exciting. In time as well because
there are so many good guilds working on it liquid are gonna be waking up
soon as well they're getting the boss down to 3.24% and of course having that
sleep buff being able to come in they do incredibly well in the morning
well they get in and they sit down and they just immediately start getting their very best balls
and we've seen that actually happen on Chiversa as well so it wouldn't surprise me if Blick would
do manage to get the boss down pretty soon after they start obviously Echo it'll be amazing in
terms of morale I don't think it'll actually matter much in terms of the long term of the way
that the race is going to go but they would love to get this boss down before anyone else
obviously yeah I mean you know we have the eight bosses it really comes down to whoever
kills the final boss first and the journey to that can be up and down you have one one guild
pull ahead on one boss another guild pull ahead on another boss it is a really a bumpy ride until
you get to the very end even last tier for example in a mairdrasil uh liquid absolutely annihilated
tindra did extremely well echo taken a little bit longer and then patched up on frac and taking
that world first in the end so this back and forth is always going to happen and it's what
makes it so exciting. No, the race is not necessarily over at boss six. Don't worry.
It just, it feels like this boss is not a boss six though.
No, it does not.
Look at those forecasts. 263, 196, 114, two sets of 114 actually as well with instant
dollars just being chads at 20, at 69 percent.
Amazing, amazing. Guiled instant dollars really, really coming into their own it feels
to the last few tears just doing incredible, getting incredible results especially for the
time sort of spent. I remember in a major still as well steam rolling through so many of the
bosses. I don't actually where they ended up in a major so I do believe it was a maybe top
five question mark, regardless of incredibly well. It's nice to see that getting lots of
good guilds in that fashion. But yes, they are clearing the final masks of phase one
before going into the intermission shooting these straight through the middle having these
areas between the lines as their play area utilizing the patterns on the floor to know where they are and aren't safe. I think it's really nice that that
was a design a boss arena that can actually be used to deal with the mechanics. Yeah, I think that certain mechanics in certain boss arenas in the past you do get used to
particular areas like I remember on the Zoff there was like certain little bumps in the ground that I was used to seeing and that so that would be where I stood in my particular pizza slice you kind of get like vibes off of it in that
sort of fashion. But this boss room obviously being very deliberately designed with the boss
mechanics in line with each of the pizza slices. These eclipses taking up one of those sort
of sixth segments in the room, making it so that players can easily find the sort of boundary
point, which is going to help out a lot here. The healing required during this phase
is insane. We're about to get all of the last, yeah, register side blazes here.
Oh my goodness. Those final ones are absolutely terrifying as we make it into phase two.
No deaths with everybody alive. Yeah, sometimes it'll be a little bit difficult to see on the raid frames
They're on having completely different colors, which is
They're great fun again for the
Inverse version, you know everyone to their own each to their own even in terms of what is best for you
It's when it comes to your raid frames in UI, but it does confuse me when watching it a little
What I like frag is raid frames because he's got some kind of
But let's see how they're going up and down.
Ooh, we do unfortunately lose Zerwo here.
One of the orbs went very close to the raid there,
so I'm not sure if Zerwo got clipped
by someone's Queensbane timeout,
because it didn't look right in that sort of sense.
Are we gonna be using a battle res on Zerwo?
No, it's now being pursued.
The battle res went out, but yeah,
I think that Zerwo didn't take it
because Merah's needed it.
Yeah, no, that's part of the strategy for sure.
But with the new way that we're dealing
with the Ankh-Totem if we can get nice memes to die to the debuff at the correct point in
the next phase that means that in a minute and 15 seconds when we get to that 4 minute
and 30s mark we will be able to get Xero up. Whether or not we can make it all the way
to that point is another question, very very difficult, it's going to be even harder
now that with the next intermission one of those blaze lines that Xero would have
otherwise got is going to be going on to random people. So fingers crossed, flex
going down as well, it's not spelling a sort of, it's not painting a good picture
at least for the rest of this pool, but let's see how much further we can go and we've, you know,
we had a very, very rough pool before with two people down for quite a long time. It doesn't
stop us from getting nice and far and getting used to the last phase. There's nothing worse than
getting into the last intermission. Might be the fifth time you've seen it. Loads of panic,
loads of worry. They want to get comfy, which these players are some, you know,
they're quick to do. They very, very well seasoned in WoW. A little worry on the sixth
boss is nothing in comparison to what they've seen in the past but Clicks also going down this is
yeah not not not looking good yeah it's very nice watching the range here because they obviously
you know where the next slice is coming in so they're kind of just preparing for that stepping
out to that was not a curse. Interestingly we did see that Kenix is using Heart of the Wild
there for the second admission to put some nice hots on himself. Oh! It seems to be more of
of like a personal rather than like a group like help spot hill thing interesting I guess
that makes sense you don't want your boomkin to be sat around just spam healing instead
of doing damage right so it makes a damage coming from soul here hold on yeah damage
from a hunter when when you haven't got clicks if he isn't able to stay alive throughout
the entire thing then soul certainly sell us a pom-pom and do a lot of damn the
actually managed to get through the first set of um Dread Rush there which is nice to see.
Yeah that where we are in phase three where we have the five masks.
That are going down though. That's not, oh Merus has taken eight stacks there and then
managed to get the arc. So he managed to delay his death for that a little bit longer so nice
memes didn't have to go down. It'd be much better if we could have Merus take the
unctotum so that nice memes doesn't lose his rune or his food buff although some food
but obviously you can survive through death now so I'm sure that's going to be the choice for some of the players there.
Yeah, much better if we can get that out on the players.
Then again, Resz as well, we're going to be going in with all of our healers into the last phase,
but whether or not we can actually survive long enough to get there right in unfortunately biting the dust.
It's going to sit there in that angel form for a little bit.
Will allow us to go into the last phase all but briefly assuming that these rifts do not kill us,
but it's going to be certainly very rough and we won't be surviving for very long as it looks like we're actually going to try and reset the boss.
the boss. Good luck. Yeah.
This is the final intermission,
the third and final intermission
before we do go into the end
rage where the room will be
fully covered and pulsing damage
across the entire raid while
the boss does have a permanent
damage buff as well. So yeah,
this is a go again angle. Just
uh, she does run into the
middle of the room for the
intermission. So can you get
the reset? Look at all the
readers there than the last
person. Yeah, it's so funny
when you see them all on
one person like that. 21.3
percent. There is nothing
It's nothing to sniff out on such a difficult fight and it's nice to at least get that far.
Obviously a little sad that we had so many deaths along the way, but if we can keep getting
to that last phase that's exactly what Echo needs to do.
So, excellent to see, but tell you what, as we are waiting for them to be getting into
another pool, it might be very wise for us to take this as a small opportunity for
ourselves to have a little bit of a break.
You guys can have a little listen in with Wave on the player comms and see how they're
doing, but I imagine they're very, very happy with how progress is going.
The very way we'll be right back
Usually just walk to the right sir
Make this
Just as possible stop at the last game
I think you're in heroes name
When you're 40, big places you can as I said pre-position yourself in the pizzas life
That will be empty basically or like make a plan to go far
That's what Satsi and me are always doing in pizza, it's pretty easy then
easy than that
it blinds up good
that is
the eclipse kill you here
i guess
that's weird
i really thought it squished you
i think you can probably go closer
to the boss there though
it pushed you back would you go closer
already? okay
if you go into the boss
it gives you a quick push
yeah
fucking type
okay
yeah
unfortunately that's the coldest one
hey here this is guys with a astroshift
like just tank both places guys you know how it is
or it's just agg yeah it's also fine
yeah but i mean
he technically clicks it and die and he just didn't waste it
he was like these guys don't deserve me right now
you ready to check it?
take the rest guys, let's game
yeah um
there was one illegal Mudo
And it was crushed blowing up, yeah.
Ooh.
You mean with the dagger, it was so impossible there.
You also had a close.
What do you mean?
I don't know if it was a dagger.
I think fleck sight there.
I don't know if it died to your balls or to what.
Yeah, I don't think it died to me.
I don't think it died to me.
There was a ball shooting right through the middle, yeah.
Yeah, I know.
But you can look at it.
It was really just true, unfortunately.
It's the dagger dodge.
You couldn't really...
I see.
Yeah.
I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna do it.
It was hard.
That was strong.
Playable but quite hard.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean if I was a little bit younger I could have done it.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if it's also illegal to do it.
Left there, yeah?
Yeah, the other one is a little bit...
This?
This one is a bit...
I don't know.
This one is also illegal.
I mean it is.
It wasn't in the past but now it is.
It is, right?
You can't really...
I mean, I should have gone here.
I think he didn't notice that he was blowing up.
You can try to move on the last second.
Oh, that was Flex actually.
You died to your own orb, Flex?
No, wait, this is not Flex.
Isn't that a hunt?
No, I'm to the right.
It must be Vexy.
Yeah, it's Vexy, Vexy, yeah.
And you died, Flex? Two daggers or what?
I died to the, like when the line ends.
To the end of this line.
Oh, like here, it's like here.
Okay.
Okay.
I mean, everything looked at, everything solved.
basically the result is have to play victory is one of this game is hard
I dropped the repair book and it's on the left
it's on the left
I don't know what you're doing, you're trying to talk to the teams, make a really good answer
thanks
if the second charges are hitting the tank is people
I think that's what we're doing here
I said as it sounds
all the fences for the intermission over it
okay so he's need to get quickly here without me
okay
what's the second set of charge on you?
respecting now everyone's over again
no it's a sex off i don't need
i mean i don't have some both of them
like?
sound good
no i'm good
i saw it on yours as well
what march pre-charge is coming up
The rest goes post-relative now, watching feats and watching dwarfs.
Need this side anymore, Nervous? Or should I just send it on a DPS now?
This one is quite nice.
Yeah, but if you don't need it, like Giger Giger, make it the second one.
He needs it.
It's time.
Intermission position.
Religioning.
Okay.
The right one.
How do we send a loom?
Okay.
Just a bearing.
Spalvo or Spalvo?
Even make cooking fire present.
Cooking fire.
They will do a quick charge I guess.
Do we hire them on the front row?
They can't exactly see dice in my hand.
No, I died to the fucking...
What's the solution?
What's the solution?
Yeah, but we're not going into 100% like if we're...
He's dying.
And it's really almost never been I mean I think me and my team can kind of stack up a little bit
It's by nice moves, I mean nice moves will hit us, but
It's also well done to right here, so maybe we can do something
That's a real classic, like I'm combo-king and well actually no I'm not doing all that
We made it all, you have a pass in there?
Yeah, it stopped from the intention slots
Yeah, I haven't seen it
It says, introduction 1, in early, did you skin early?
I don't know, but I think I died to just casting Rebrute
I hope I died to clear the enemies
He's also not getting any reminder that, ah no, here skin early, barely 8
And he did not have skin guys, I can't confirm
That's what you're doing?
I have skin
I have skin
No, I mean you didn't use it right?
Yeah, but I wait for a register
But I casted rebirth
And I didn't rebirth cast
But you did get a register
I'm still going to use it
Yeah, I do
Oh, you got by someone else's
No, I thought I was going to finish the commuters before I could skin
But I couldn't
Okay, there we go
I'm doing a game play, it's fine
This is actually solved. I mean really good hit by Eclipse unfortunately happens, whatever.
Plan works. We kill it next goal instead. It's fine. We need tuples.
Yeah, I missed the start up one way so I'm glad that we kill it this goal instead.
50 seconds and then we can...
This is like a farm raid that's like, yeah, tiny bit extended you know.
Honnix or Paul?
I don't know.
I mean this boss is on farm at this point.
farming us
if you don't shut the fuck up i'm gonna go home with them, farm you, do you understand?
ah, let's see, try
hmmm
i'm gonna farm you
i'm gonna farm you
fuck
he said something back, what do i do?
i was ready for an hour
oh no
daddy?
my foodbox is about to run out
8 seconds left
the night roll you know
okay i'm placing a new feast
i placed legit four feasts in one hour
i forgot you were here man
well i've placed eight sixty feasts and what oh yeah this is
it was fun when server was placed into like you know keep it
well you can keep your organ room
yeah true true oh new time actually i need in the break i need to buy the
I can use Ogre Room this fight
One more?
Yeah, I can one for the old expansion one
Oh
Or should I rune 3 times per attempt then?
I think I spend 60k on 20 just now
Not a good investment I think
You know what else is...
Breaked up
Mid lane, I'll sprint
I'm...
F**k off
Should we shut down the door?
Yeah, shittin' man
Let's go boys
I rune in the beginning
I have a rune up
Yup
There's the banana peel it guys, come on.
I thought just peel it.
Come now, come now!
Yeah!
We just respect the banana.
We're gonna kill them with you.
The banana is the smallest fucking thing.
How's your fellow going?
Do you understand the max for that or?
Yeah, I'm ready now.
After dinner I'm coming in.
Can't explain where they are.
Float, that's a good place.
Nice, what is this?
Beautiful.
Yeah, nice.
I'm so excited about this.
Respect.
Respect.
i have no idea what is going on with the barrel
i see a bump in every frugal rate
i go wrong
i see winter star and sort of purple
i have no idea what is going on with the barrel
it's fine
unless i have technique in optic
i need mage full
why is mage full? never done
I have 40 left, so that does sound like a U-shoot.
Then it was never down, because it pushed a few regards,
and no one would match for this down like please.
No, please don't.
Please bear in mind, no, please don't.
What time of the pull time I can't approach,
I will initiate the pull.
Can I also pull at one, or do you need to pull?
I need to pull.
Disgusting.
I mean, what do you do also?
I will precast at 4 seconds
and then cast this
I mean, I don't care if the boss is not pulled at exactly 0 or later
Yeah, it's fine. I don't care if people at 0.5 of the pool time
Yeah, it's perfect. I mean...
I think Wally is moving around again
Yeah, I'm ready
Okay, but Scott, there was a conversation with Mike, yeah? In case you...
What?
Yeah, yeah, oh no...
Fucking that's good. Let's keep it up or the accent. Okay pulling pulling in 35. There we go. You just move the pre-cars, you know
My guys already it was
I got it, you know, hope to let you signed up to really digging in next tears of splits
Yeah, he's numerous. No
We have seen Echo's best pull so far on Nexus Princess Kai Vezer at 8.73% hidden almost
the 200 pull mark which is absolutely crazy considering this is boss number 6.
We haven't seen the penultimate boss, we haven't seen the final boss yet.
There's a wild race and seeing all of the guilds battle it out as well with liquid echo method and the wonderful Chinese team and even instant dollars five out of eight. So this is very exciting.
It really is. It's a really, really cool time. Nearly 200 pulls. I'm a sick boss, by the way.
I keep saying that as well.
It's six buffs. We've still got two more bosses after this. It's going to be an insane time.
We had Brew Twister as well, which was quite substantial.
I mean, going by Liquid's pool count, it was 1-1-1-1, 120.
Yep.
For the first five bosses, which is absolutely wild.
And it looks like Echo just about to go into this 200th pool as well.
So, yeah, the Chivers are definitely being much more of a wall than we expected.
The immense amount of damage required for this boss to go down is pretty much like
nothing that we've seen within recent memory in terms of like a boss in this part of the instance
having 200 pulls at this time is insane as they are jumping in two said 200 pull very very exciting
stuff so yes if you are joining us this boss can go down at any moment it just takes one clean
pull before this our best pull was like 17.8 percent or something now jumping down to 8.7
and it was far from being the cleanest that it could possibly be although it was the cleanest
that we've had thus far.
Absolutely.
We unfortunately did lose a DPS quite early on to the fight,
and towards the end, we did have a few deaths.
So the 8.73% being their best pull was wonderful,
considering they were missing some DPS, which really
can happen at any time without chaotic.
The intermission is not exactly that predictable either,
because the blazes go out kind of randomly
in the random directions.
There's a little bit of RNG, but also you
can optimize your movement and kind of nullify
much of the randomness as possible by positioning yourself right away from everybody which is not
so easy to do in melee. Let me tell you that is a very chaotic point of view.
Oh yeah, if you're watching from like Cush's point of view during that intermission phase it's like,
well, they're somewhere, they're safe I'm sure, but it's very very difficult to find,
but they are somehow managing it. Of course making that swap away from the Windwalker
and Guardian Druid situation to having a Brumasa and a Balanced Druid, although it hasn't made
This, um, maybe it's made a big difference.
It's mean, from the outside, it seems to be a relatively small difference,
but one of those small differences is, of course, reducing one melee player in this phase.
Of course, switching a Windwalker for a Balancher, it is going to do that.
Making it so that melee is a little bit cleaner.
As you can see them all dodging around here, the very best that they can,
making it so that they're desperately trying not to hit each other
with their own blaze lines here, but so far, so good it can go wrong at any time.
But the boss is getting absolutely slapped by a full 20 man team.
We're about to have everyone get a registered line the second those here we go if we can survive this last little hit
We are able to wax going incredibly low, but otherwise we were able to do so boss at around 65 percent city
6% as we're coming out that phase which is roughly where we wanted to be maybe a little bit higher than our very best
But everyone alive is excellent. No deaths apart from the one that we want to use on mirrors during the first phase
So so far so good because that goes heading into the second phase one, which is just a repeat
absolutely. They will have one
extra ad marked with a mask.
You can see one extra red glowy
ad here. They'll have one.
Oh, unfortunately, we do lose
may vocal here. Frago dropped
extremely low. Yeah. It was
salvage. They'll be running
two ads through the boss here
to clear those masks and then
we'll need to run two more
throw on the next dashes. We
intentional death from Marys because they are one tanking so we are committing a
lot of the battle res is the arcto terms to get Marys back up as we don't have the
second tank to taunt swap so every time there is the tank buster Marys is going
to be taking more damage and it will kill him so that was intended if you're
ever seeing Marys drop it is usually intentional it's part of the strat
that they're using but we do unfortunately do have two DPS down
but on their best pull we did have DPS some DPS down for most of the
fight. You'll see how well I do. Yeah, it's unlikely to be a kill, but there's so much
still to practice and learn in that very last intermission. We, like, although we got 18
players into that last intermission last time, you know, the eternal darkness or the
eternal night, we lost like so many of them so fast, they drop like flies, just one
after another after another, just falling down. And I did he would have them survive
until the point in which the whole room is getting covered in these eclipse pizza
slices right so um something that definitely needs a little bit of work still um keeping those players
alive for as long as possible easier said than done though but we're going to try it out as we're
halfway through the second starless night phase so far no one going down but it is incredibly easy
to do so so and hopeful both dropping incredibly low and everyone getting marked here hopeful needs
to use something yeah but unfortunately not enough with both war life and hopeful going down in that
phase might still continue to push on through. They can certainly practice some things such as the
tech with the, uh, well, banana tech at the beginning here. We're going to be seeing all of the
range players hit a macro and then they are going to be dragged into the correct location
via a rescue. This applies a large shield on them as well as making it so that people are
taken to the right places to have the portal spawned correctly. These nether rifts.
So it's a good survival tool to make it so you can hopefully survive the Queensbane
afterwards. Seems to have been done successfully here. Mara's going incredibly low. Is likely to die
to the next set of tank hits. The void shredder is coming in in a few seconds, but we're going to
have an unctotum down shortly afterwards. So we're going to just try and keep him alive just for a
little bit of time, just until we can get the unctotum down, which will be spamming as quickly
as possible. Oh, unfortunately, the orbs run a little bit sideways and down goes Echo. But
they did manage to do the thing with Mara's lead perfectly. They managed to get him back
up surviving 8 stacks of that debuff just for a little while until the Ancestral Protection
Potion can go down and revive him. Looks like they're going to continue going for a little
bit but it's all in vain. Hopefully they can get a boss reset and we can go again.
Yeah, because the boss will run back towards the middle and it's time for the intermission
but everything's like they caught her just before transitioning so they were able to get the reset
off there. Yeah, so damn shame that occasionally things just seemingly
just starts fall over it's obviously a very very difficult fight we've got a ton of amazing players
here but this fight is just making light work of many of them uh just seemingly knocking them all down
if you are if you do have a nine grim battol i'm helping jinjin boost this out as well um yeah
echo looking for you look up echo in the dungeon finder if you've got a nine
grin battol yeah seems like they're chasing some rings if you're able to able and willing to
trade the rings come and help them out. This is what Mini Shaman is. It would be a nice way to get
that key pushed up you know so then you have a 10 or higher ready for the maximum key required for
the maximum loot in the vault so you know win-win. It seems like Mini is maybe doing a little bit of
pivot away from his death knight and maybe going over towards the Shaman instead because that
was the character that was in that particular Grimbatal group the leader being Mini Shaman
that. Yeah, I mean, Clix is
doing so much damage on this
fight. Oh, yeah. Even if the
raiders, they have so many
incredible players on their
roster. And even when they're
not necessarily in for a fight,
they are always trying to get
as much as they possibly can
for the various characters that
they may or may not need. What's
really interesting about this
rate here is the complete
And then going to Nexus Princess, five Vezel, we have the four Arcane mages and heavy ranged comp.
Who knows what's awaiting us in Silicon Core and Queen Ancerac if we have any more unique raid compositions
awaiting us. So them, you know, spending their time gearing the characters, having, if they do need, let's say, five mages,
they'll have that available because they never want to be in the position where they need something and they don't have it.
And Echo always puts so much preparation in, so they're never in that position.
Well, the thing is that we're going into a reset.
I think it's very safe to say that we will not be clearing the entire raid this week for any region at all.
I think everyone's going to be going into the next reset, and with the next reset does come a few balance changes.
Maybe making some of the classes that are otherwise less, you know, attractive right now to maybe be a little bit stronger.
What I'm saying is that, of course, the kill comp for the Silicon Core is going to be 14 Shadow Priest.
Obviously, it seems like they did lose Narco here, but they didn't lose Merus.
I wonder if Narco torn...
No, they did.
They did?
Yeah, no, Merus died as correct as he would normally, and died and got the Untotem to carry him.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure what caused Narco to die, and whether it be one of the Blades or one of the Merus.
One of the many things on this fight could be anything, really.
Yeah, basically, if you get hit by anything you're not, like, that is avoidable, you will die.
So in this phase, if you get hit by a pizza slice, you will die.
If you got hit by someone else's blazes, it's so incredibly likely you will die.
Not that it does more damage to you, but obviously, say that each phase you're supposed to take three blaze damages.
The healers have taken that into account.
You're going to take three instances of blaze hits.
If you then start taking four and five, then you're just going to fall over unless you're a tank
or you've got a crazy amount of DR available.
Talking of a crazy amount of damage here, it comes everyone with a blaze at the very end.
It looks awesome.
Always so nice to see that intermission.
the last few calls. They are
getting really consistent
progression here. It's just a
very nice to see. You also have
that ominous 10% drop into 10%
causes you to take a massive hit
from the boss, and it's pretty
much an execute, you know, 10.2
million damage. Unfortunately, not
quite finding the space on the
hexagon didn't quite place all of
the ads in the correct points
there. Unfortunately, that is a
That is a reset.
Yeah, so they're doing this tech that Jesse's walked us through a couple of times,
called banana tech.
It's just the call that they make so that everyone isn't aware,
because beforehand, Roger was saying, okay, use your macro.
Okay, now we're going to here.
And just people weren't paying attention to it.
They were, it was too chilled out.
Tune it out on macro.
Yeah, it's all boring, macro, there's macro.
That banana, you say.
So it's a code word now.
They talk about banana, and that means you're going to use your macro if you are targeted.
I mean, it's such a random word in the middle of a raid pool that your brain would kind of hear it and then think, ah, that's odd.
Oh wait, I know what that means.
Well, especially if you're focusing all day for like 12 hours or something, having a word to kind of keep you in the loop, keep you out of the, like, keep you from falling asleep.
The banana jump scare.
Yeah, the banana jump scare.
We go every phase.
But yes, all of the players that are targeted by the assassination, the ad-spawning mechanic would be using a macro, which will populate a weak aura list.
And from that week or a list it will assign that the four of oakers that we have to drag you to one of four spots with their use of
Rescue which gives you a big old shield and then the fifth person just has to waddle to their location
Unfortunately, canyx I believe was one of the waddlers there and a little bit too slow in recognizing that which is understandable
Considering canyx has been only back in the group for around 10-20 pulls at this point
After not playing pretty much the entire day on this he's lost a lot of that practice because they were all struggling with this tech
earlier on. To the point where we were kind of saying it's not really worth
using as casters but they obviously thought it was and it does seem to be
paying pretty good paying off pretty well even yeah but unfortunately it doesn't
mean that sometimes when someone drops the ball the wipe to a mechanic the
other ways really shouldn't ready check has gone out hopefully everyone is
satisfied and we're going to be jumping into pool number 203 of the sixth
I'm a sixth boss. I'm a sixth
in the narrow bar palace. Yes.
My word. Oh, you can see
just thinking man. This is
the Silicon Court was all
talking about how hard the
Silicon Court would be not
this. You know what is
hilarious? The fact that a
lot of people who tested
Silicon Court on the PTR or
whatever. He said PTR but
who tested that or mythic
was saying that that is one
of the hardest bosses that
very scary, ominously looming after Groupwister, after Princess Cliveza, and before Queen Antarek as well.
We've got this in good position. We do. You can see that rescue tent that Benamete was just talking about just there.
Working well this time around. Unfortunately not working well as well beforehand, but hey ho, it is what it is.
This player's all going to be exploding as they're being dragged in towards the middle here.
place in these portals each of which are dragging you towards them if you place them nice and evenly around you
You're kind of getting dragged in every direction simultaneously meaning that you kind of just stay still which is the whole point of it
You can see all quite a lot of low health pulls there
Mara's dying coming back and dying again. Oh, was that the instant death though?
He took the unctote in such a fashion that just led to him dying straight away afterwards
It seems like the bosses getting dragged out towards the edge as we had to dedicate a normal res to him
There we go, yeah. Just going for the reset.
That's one of the reasons that we're getting such high pool counts on this boss, by the way.
If you're wondering how the hell this is happening, well, not only is the boss very hard,
we're going for a strategy that requires the tank to die,
so if you don't have the battle res available, or if you've had to use them earlier,
then you know as part of your strategy, a strategy that your tank is going to die
at three minutes if you haven't got a battle res for them,
we have to live for a minute and a half without any luck.
So they've managed to mitigate that somewhat,
meaning that we only need to guarantee you have one battle res available,
and rather than the two that you would generate otherwise over the course of the fight
So there's a slight refinement there by being a bit more clever with the unctotum timings
But yeah, it's still super difficult everything one shots you if you make any sort of mistake
It's super hectic super different every single time as well
Yeah, it's not exactly one of those fights where
The progression is gonna like you know after in the boss for 200 calls, you know exactly where you're going every time
You know your positioning you know how you're gonna deal with the mechanic you kind of worked out
You kind of map down your head and while that does apply somewhat in this fight in the end mission again
It's so just complete RNG. It's so random
So that's a rule going to be showcasing play a skill reacting in the moment
It's really testing them because you know one wrong step can lead to a death to yourself to one of your team members
So yeah, it is super scary to get the mind see on the boss there from the priest so that people can go closer to the
boss you see like two little camps being made up around each of the
both Frank Voker and Mae Voker. Both of them are playing Augmentation and their
Ebon Might cast at the beginning buffs the closest players. They're closest to
CPS they have so that's why you see the little clumps of the assigned players to
be gathering those buffs. Augmentation obviously a very very interesting class
to be having in a game like Warcraft. Still even to this day it's been there
for over an expansion now. Well not like we've got really software through
last expansion. So nearly an entire expansion now if you see my rate here. And players are
still a little confused as to whether or not it's any good. Mera's going down as he should.
Part of the strat. Get the Hactotem. Yeah, from the same in there. Oh, I'm pushing. We
do lose. I don't even know what he just died to. That's the thing. It didn't seem to
be anything at that point. There wasn't even daggers, I don't think, at that point.
It felt like it was maybe a melee hit. Maybe Mera's going to get the boss back in time.
Yeah, I feel like he's died at the same point as he did last fall. That's why
wondering if it was something that they changed in the strat but it wouldn't
necessarily make sense because they are still committing the arctotum for
meres. So yeah, we'll have a little look at that, it could just be a coincidence. I mean again
there was so much happening in this fight. It could have maybe been a dagger.
The view lines that are going across the floor, sorry, the daggers just in
case you were wondering, that might have been the thing they took about.
Yeah, dodging the orbs on the blades. Yeah, everything pretty much one shot.
And if it doesn't, you're gonna get one shot by the boss when you reach
Stem is in health. So just pressure around really.
Maybe I might have a little look after this, might head over towards the desk and see what's
going on with that.
As they are in the first intermission now.
They are indeed.
Chaotic.
Make sure that they are going between the line. You can see how the range have completely
minimized their movement here because they're existing on this small little space where
They just need one little sidestep to be safe from both pizza slices not placing themselves right in the middle
So they don't have to run so quickly. They can get damage out. It allows them all wiggle room
We do unfortunately lose through to additional DPS in the intermission and that is a
Reset at this point. We really can't afford to lose anyone. Oh
Oh
I'm gonna save me a trip over to the desk. Sorry to interrupt you
So they were looking at death as to how Narko died, so it seemed like there was confusion there as well, probably not an anticipated death when they had to check to see why he died.
Yes, Narko over the Paladin Reel Classic, I'm not entirely too sure what took him out, but a mistake nonetheless.
I'm probably thinking it was either like a taunt thing that's gone a little bit awry or it is indeed the daggers that happened to be out at that point.
So it is what it is, but they're doing incredibly well.
We should be very happy with the way that Prague is going thus far.
We had literally one good pull away from this boss going down.
It seems they've mathed it out.
They feel relatively happy with what they've got, how they think they can get it down.
It just, we just need that pull.
It happens sometimes in progress, where you're on a boss that you really can't really
see any better ways to optimise apart from just getting the reps in and just doing
the very best you can, and that's what Echo are doing.
Yeah, and it was nice because we were talking to Roger when we took a little bit of
break and Roger was saying you know I said brewmaster that's six hours ago but we tested
the Guardian Druid and now we're testing the brewmaster six hours later so it seems like
there's always stuff cooking they always have ideas and then it takes a while where they're
going to test out let's say they tested out the Guardian Druid for six hours and now they're
going to try out the brewmaster so they've got so many different things they've been
subbing in and out especially if you look at their comp from yesterday to today a lot
of things have changed there as well. They're constantly making changes there's constantly
a lot of ideas and it seems like they are pretty comfy with this current setup. They haven't changed
it in a little while, seems to be working for them. Just need to make sure that we are not losing
anyone from these little personal mistakes as we are going into the first round of portals,
making sure they're not getting dragged into any of them while dropping the orbs far away,
keeping the space clean, very, very nice. Yeah, I can only, like, I don't think I'd be able
able to do something like this. The mental fortitude to keep doing the same thing over
and over again with slight variations every time. It's going to be so, so tough. So it's
incredible to see anyone frog on this bus in the way that the all of the top end are doing
right now. It's seeing Naka go down there again. I'm starting to think that it must
be something strategy based. We probably don't have Jesse with us, but that's very
peculiar. It's not like these players who have those sort of reoccurring issues,
pulls back to back to back.
Obviously it does happen sometimes.
We know that, of course,
Narko, an incredibly strong player,
normally, you know, you have to break the glass
in case of emergency, and behind there is Narko
ready to come out and slap some face,
but seems to be struggling in the last couple of pulls.
Never the mind, they can keep pushing through
last set of rifts coming in of this stage
before we enter the next phase into the intermission.
Okay, we're going into the very first intermission.
Absolutely, rinse and repeat, all practice,
all stages of this fight are relevant.
Damage that they do, for example,
at the beginning is gonna carry over
for the rest of the fight,
which is why he's in the blood loss on pull,
there's no shenanigans with like going into
a different phase of the certain health percentage
or any of that.
The intermissions largely look in the same as well,
so any practice in the first intermission
is gonna carry forward throughout the rest of the fight
as they are dodging the blazers,
keeping them away from everyone else,
making sure they're not clipping each other
or moving in a way that offsets somebody else,
making sure that they are dodging.
Also, the pieces of slices that are going out across the raid as well, it's just so much happening.
It looks a little bit easier to arrange with that, it's by no means the case.
The unfortunate is Rycen here.
Ooh, that's bad.
Yeah, that is a go again.
They can't really commit the Rezys because of their one tank strap, because of the times that Merys dies and the Rezys are required for him.
They don't have the second tank to tank swap, so Merys will inevitably die at certain places.
We need the resists for that. Losing a healer is extremely bad because then you'll be using the
res in the healer, you won't have the res for meres and they do have some little bit of fallback
plans with the nice memes for example but it seems like we're using that in the third phase so we
can't even really fall back to that in the first phase for example or second. I think there's
lots of things that they can do in order to keep a pull alive but at this point they know
they've gone into the last phase of 18 people alive. Obviously any sort of good looking pull
They will do everything they can to keep it going even if it starts to go a bit pear-shaped
But they are you know throwing away pools that they know are just aren't worth their time
This at this point it's almost
Rolling the dice. It's not as random as that. It's not that the game is giving them impossible pools
It's just they need to have a pool where everyone manages to deal with all of these very difficult and
Different situations that they've dealt with for the last few pools
where the daggers are in the face, where all of the orbs coming from,
in terms of what personals you even have available at least times
if you have to be chosen for lots of things back to back,
all of those kind of things are, you know, they are difficult.
They're difficult to deal with.
We're just rolling the dice until we get into a pool
where everyone is able to deal with those difficult situations
good enough that we can hopefully get this boss down.
Which is obviously easier said than done.
It's always scary seeing, oh faggot dying there, that's a bit odd.
Huh, okay, it happens, he's back. How's he back?
Was that not a combat nurse? Was it an ung-turtle?
Yes, he must have consumed the ung-turtle that was there for Marys,
so a battle was being committed for Marys instead.
The soul stone.
So you're going to see the nice memes tech where they're going to
instead put the second tank boss sort of phase two onto nice memes
instead of our second tank, which we don't have.
We'd normally just sacrifice Marys, the Dark Gods,
for that particular part of the fight,
but we don't have that capacity anymore.
So, nice means we'll instead have to take the hit
and hopefully be able to survive.
Yes, they run all of the lions through the boss
at this point, positioning themselves not to get caught.
These little areas, dodging the blades,
making sure they're dropping the orbs outside,
away from everybody else.
And as they go back into the middle, there we go, we've got this final portal drag here, before they go into intermission number one.
Everyone alive, no battle res is available though, so they're going to have to play this phase very carefully.
Let's see how well they do, the group is looking pretty whole foods we go into it, but then again, so does the boss, not necessarily that low.
But we'll see how well it goes, a phase that they've done many, many times before, but one that they need to master quickly.
they do want to be able to pull ahead of the competition. Liquid, of course, you to be waking up
relatively soon and with a fresh sleep buff, normally very very beneficial to them. But fortunately,
we do have a Thanaggo down and with that and no res available, a quick reset. It is an incredibly
difficult phase, but one that they really need to try their best to improve their consistency on
because it's looking a bit rough, considering you had such good pulls back to back where
was constantly getting like sub 20% we've seemed to have fallen into a little bit of a
rut for the last year. Yeah, it's... oh. Break time. Oh, I think this is dinner. I think
he might very well be right. As what time is it? I mean, it is 5 30 for us, which is
dinner break. It might do them some good, right? They've been making it really, really
well and then they kind of have a bit of a wall where they start to do not so well.
And so probably best that they can go get some food, have a little bit of a rest,
maybe close their eyes without seeing like all of the different like blaze lines
and cones and all of the goo across the room like some sort of strange
Tetris effect going on but yes we're gonna go and join them though and
grab ourselves some food. So do not go anywhere we'll be back shortly after
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a sit-down with Secret Lab.
I, Alex, am joined by the wonderful Mr. Jusway, who has been very, very busy at the
beginning of this week.
And, well, would you like to tell us what you've been doing for the last few
days?
I'm playing table tennis with Grimm.
Yep.
Sometimes organizing the splits that we do behind you know outside of the raid still so we put out one member
Oh, that's it for them and put him back in again
We really appreciate that it's asking rather than having like you're giving us jump scares the last few days
Occasionally when splits have been said where's we're in the middle of mythic progress. Yeah, this is gonna rear
It's ugly head again, but you've been doing it on the slown the download
How's that kind of been working? So I think it wasn't done too much in previous tears
Well right now we have a lot of people in the bench right we know to set up
I do think we did use to do it back in the other races as well.
It was just so sneaky that we didn't know about it.
We did do it as well.
But it's been going well.
Nice.
Yeah.
Well, so far this series turned out to be absolutely insane, right?
A lot of us as castes and as the chatters, I'm sure, didn't expect it to be this crazy.
What are your thoughts from your perspective?
Did you see this raid being as nuts as it is?
No, we definitely didn't expect this.
expect this this nutty at least yeah I mean the last two bosses this one and the
previous one you know we thought it would be you know the first roadblocks in
the in this tier but not not as hard as they are now we would have expected them
to die before the weekend so there's no one guessing 200 poles plus on
Kvazel though I've not seen that prediction I will I could 150 150
we're already 200 like over a hundred off still pretty good for my
predictions. Speaking of which, obviously this boss hopefully looking to die either today,
maybe tomorrow if not, how are we thinking like of course the big scary ones are coming
up. How do you feel about Silkencourt? I see you guys already using Vantus. I guess that's
not dying this week? I mean even Silkencourt is probably something that will die because
we expect right now that QVS has a DPS boss so that Silkencourt will be more of an execution
boss that we don't need to defend the runes. We're not expecting to kill the last
plus this preset, if I can tell you that much.
Okay, fair enough.
Well, we did have Horoak Week this summer round,
which is something that we haven't had for a long old time.
Yep.
So you had all the time in the world,
it felt like, to perfect your splits.
And then, well, apart from people going on vacation,
which probably, for us, better into the works,
how are you feeling about Horoak Week?
Is it something that you would like for them
to continue forward into upcoming raids,
or is it something that you're kind of,
it was fun once, but maybe not again?
Yeah, we used to have it at Horoak Weeks,
of course, back then.
They were a lot different,
because we weren't as optimized with the splits, you know, we didn't do 9, 12, 16 characters this time.
We just had like a handful, like 3-4 characters, so it was a lot more manageable in Heroic Week,
but now it feels like while we're doing these 16 characters, it's a bit too much.
So I do think going back to just Mythic again, it is probably the best way, even for us,
because we will feel more pressure to finish it fast, go into Mythic,
and if we're already geared from last year, it won't matter as much, I guess, to Heroic Week.
That's the main difference right now because of the expansion launch, of course.
You're going in with literally no gear at all, so that the Roigwick actually does help a lot here.
So I'm glad I did it this tier, and I'm kind of also happy they already announced that it's probably not happening next tier.
After that, yeah. It does give you a lot more time to gear up, but I think it's all right without it.
Okay, well find a question for you before I let you go and scheme or play table tennis.
or sleep
Until we kill this boss at least or someone kills the boss. Do you think this boss is dying tonight for echo or it's just gonna be an early morning tomorrow kind of deal
I mean, we still a bit of optimizing to do. We're still losing players
Getting to that end of the end of the fight. So as soon as we can get to clean it up. I'm not sure if we can do it today
No, let's be honest, right?
8% is still still far off. So I do think someone will kill it today
And I will kill the early tomorrow I think.
Okay well thank you ever so much for your time.
Thank you very much for Secret Lab.
Of course for providing the setup
we'll be throwing it over to Jesse right now
and I'll be running over towards him so don't go anywhere.
Hello everyone, that was just Wade
on a sit-down with Secret Lab.
I am Jesse, I'll be joined in a moment by Fat Boss Alex.
I hear him running down the hallway right now.
Jesse of course used to play tank in WoW
usually playing that brew master monk
that he is now an outside analyst
and officer for the team of Echo.
usually working on weak ores, bigwigs timers and splits. I hear the pitter-patter of little feet
as I am joined momentarily by Fat Boss Alex. Now he's walking away from me. Probably shut the
door. For those who are catching up this evening, Echo has been working all day today and all day
yesterday on Mythic Princess Kiveza. The assassin, the sixth boss, unanticipated to be as difficult
She is currently at 206 pulls from echo 263 pulls from liquid, which is in particular the relevant other than say it is a very difficult boss now
Join now by a fat boss Alex. Hello. I wanted to tell you sir. Yes. I actually spent some time looking at the logs
Mm-hmm, and I've noticed something catastrophically problematic about it goes progression. Damn it. I knew something was wrong
So I'm wrong
The tanks are just dying a lot like like an awful lot earlier today Robin one of the first three people to die
80% of the time less than a 20% survival rate out of the first three and then of course
they benched him for that horrific performance and brought mirrors in who's doing even worse.
No way. Dying first every single pull. In fact this is a strange relationship. The later
everyone else dies the more likely it is that mirrors will be the first to die as
he appears to die around one minute of the fight every single time. They should really
look into that. The fact that we caught that before they did just goes to show
that echo's falling off and it might be might be the end of everything right now
this is my expert analysis actually actually told that described during the
dinner break all right what do you have to say he pretended to be amused
that's about right when I said I've been looking at the logs he actually was like
tell me I was like oh man he thinks I know something useful no you knew me
better you would not have thought that I think he probably knows you too
Well, there's you too well indeed. So when we start pulling, we will start describing to you the various mechanics going on and the strategy being used.
I do think that over this long day, although it's largely invisible, there has been a lot of stuff happening behind the scenes under the hood, so to speak, tweaking and improving their strategy pretty significantly.
We saw the broad strokes of the strategy yesterday with positioning such that you always clear
at least one or two of the death masks in the first charges and then the remainder on
the second.
That broad strokes was done yesterday.
Today's been filling in the fine detail.
How to ensure that everyone gets the healing they need.
How to ensure that everyone's sending the personals they need and having them available.
Timing of all of those various cooldowns.
Movement and positioning being very important throughout the fight.
So a lot of the fine details colored in today, um, similar to the question you asked just
wait, will the boss fight tonight?
I asked a similar question to scribe and he didn't get the answer before someone said,
of course we will.
And he just gave you a smile.
Yeah.
Um, my, my, my sense of his thoughts is that he thinks the strategy is done, but that
potentially some more practice is necessary before a kill will be assured.
But it could happen.
In fact, we are, well, no, no, no, you're being replaced by Kerou in an hour, right?
That is true.
Okay, so once Kerou is here, then we will be the two final casters of the night,
which means that they will kill it tonight during our shift.
That'll be nice.
Unless they don't, which is very likely.
Now, I think it's actually, obviously, the players have a better vibe than we do.
Oh, they're so excited right now.
Yeah, they're, in all fairness, they are feeling good.
They're like everyone that I'm speaking to, I thought, like, personally, I'll be like full Doom mode on a fight like this,
because as soon as the boss doesn't die, and I do instead, unbelievable, unacceptable.
But they seem to be having a really, really good time.
There's a lot of progress happening that isn't entirely clear immediately to an outside viewer,
such as being able to get through a phase more cleanly.
Like, it's actually kind of, I would say, rare is the wrong word,
but it's becoming at least uncommon going out of the phase one to have anyone die in that first intermission.
second intermission we know we have like one death but it feels like we're slowly but surely
increasing the chances of us getting further and further into the fight. Like our very best pool
just to go back to that for a moment when we got that 8.73% the times like we had someone dead the
entire time followed by another dps it was dead pretty much the entirety of phase three so we
went into the last phase with only 18 people alive and we lost like 10 people within the first
like a few pulses, you know.
We're the first three re-decided people went down.
Yeah, so it was a lot of ways that we can still get an improvement.
The fact that boss went down to 8.73% is incredible.
I'm kind of under the impression that one god pool could miraculously appear.
As you said, it's not like we're going to have to do a whole phase.
It's not like there's anything more to learn apart from small min-max.
But if the boss serves up a really good pool to you on a platter,
it's unlike Echo to like reject it.
They're going to do everything they can to seize that pool.
True and a lot of the under the hood strategies have been ironed out. We've got the banana tech largely working
We have the on totem tech refined mirrors is in fact planning to survive
Just long enough to going up to eight stacks of the tank debuff to make it into the on totem without having to engage
A nice meme so a lot of stuff going on under the hood that has been refined and improved
We'll talk through that as we go through the polls and explain it all in detail to you
But the players are fairly confident that the strategy works
which is good. It means they're in good spirits. They've also had very high consistency today,
with a relatively good rate of, like you said, having few deaths in Phase 1, making it in Phase 2 quite easily,
making it to the main raid, basically whenever they want, is just that a couple of people will be dead by the time they get there.
I like the idea that, in theory, for this one-tank strategy, if you have an Ankh-Totem, you don't need to use any battle resets.
There is a world where you can do it, where the first one is Ankh-Totem,
2nd one is nice meme demon hunter tech that we hope he just doesn't get a charge afterwards
because omg that's way too much damm and then the 3rd one is uncto him again leaving you
with two battle res is entirely free to be used in any way shape or form that you like
and I would like to see them start sending that battle res to a DPS earlier now because
of that so we had a couple of polls where they previously so they're using a tank
Sack strap, right? You have three tank busters in each phase of which you can only live the first and third second one kills you
Right, so they were sacrificing the tank three times which required an onk totem and then two battle res
Is now they finangled the octotum so that they can have an onk totem a battle res and an onk totem
Which frees up a battle res? Yeah, they've been saving that battle res regardless for mirrors where something either goes wrong
He doesn't make it to the onk totem or perhaps a healer dies
Now that we know that they could conceivably always save a battle res and
Potentially even the second if they always use nice memes on the second phases second tankbuster
I would like to see them just send it, you know res that get DPS potentially. That's a kill still if he stays dead
It's not that is very true. Yeah, it's going from that mindset of practice and consistency up to screw it
Let's try make every kill we'll scratch everything we can out of it before we discard it
The thing is with you being able to reset the boss so quickly and things have gone pear shaped
Sometimes it's just best to say, screw it, go next.
You know what I mean?
I can understand that element as well.
And it takes two minutes before,
or two minutes 15, I think it is,
before you're into the next phase again.
So it's not a whole other time missed.
That's true.
But the other, the flip side of that is,
how often have you come into a pull,
something goes mildly wrong, you think it's over,
but because you can't reset it,
you just keep going and you end up killing it.
Sure.
Famously, I think that was in methods,
blackhand, mythic kill, something went wrong
at the very beginning.
Roger Brown said, wipe it.
They said, no, let's just keep going
the kill the boss so I do want to see them move from practice mindset into kill mindset as we go
into the first food buff post-dinner mythic pull of the princess kiveza six spots of the raid thus
far looking like the final boss of the raid in fact significantly more difficult than several
final bosses in recent memory most notably sarcara yeah not the best boss sarcara at least in
my books but it is what it is as three healers getting at the assassination on them not too
scary at the very beginning of the fight with Bloodlust rolling as they should be alright
to getting all stacks up. I think we use the Spirit Link here as well. Oh no, not even necessary.
Next round. Next round indeed. Next round as we're going into the first world marker
charges. We're going to rotate these charges around the boss, creating lines of intersection
where two death masks overlap, going under the boss, giving her two stacks of hurt
and rage. Mira's dies intentionally there inside the Onk Totem at a very precise time
to enable the Onkton to be cast again in Phase 3.
Everyone dodged?
That's going to put us into Suck Number 2, which will be followed by the second charges.
The second charges are much, much easier.
You'll only ever have a maximum of two death masks, so everyone can simply charge straight through the middle
without having to worry about having three go through and enrake her permanently.
The way this mythic mechanic works is if she gets hit by one or two, it's fine.
It evaporates 12 seconds later. If you get spied three, it's permanent.
So that's requiring two rounds if it's falling to deathmast,
and that causes their little strategy.
These are not amazingly placed, but it's okay.
Yeah, it's not the end of the world.
I was thinking that on Mythic, these would pull in a lot, lot faster.
They are stronger than they are on Heroic and Normal,
but I thought that each one would be like a Razorgeth pushback,
but it turned out not to be the case.
And probably for the best, is this boss is difficult enough.
Not already.
So here we go, going into the first intermission.
Largely mechanically very very similar to what is on the heroic and normal mode difficulties obviously with the eclipse pizza slices doing
Incredible damage pretty much one-shotting anyone that is hit by them and players that are a
Targeted by these blazes not only are there a tons more blazes, but they do so much damage
You can see soul going down there unfortunately no personal available for him
Hopefully we don't have any more descanics going incredibly low
But Reva's joining soul on that floor inspection duty meaning that unfortunately we do have two players down
Now no Rez is being sent just yet, probably keeping it nice and chill, saving it for this
upcoming death that is intentional from Mera's, but otherwise we're going straight back into
the beginning phase that Jesse has explained so well.
It is the same thing over and over again.
It is the exact same thing, except after the Onk Totem Rez, Mera's received a Soul Stone
from Zerow and is currently wearing it, so that as soon as he goes down from these
Shredders, he will be able to take that Soul Stone and instantly Rez.
I don't think that they're going to send the Demon Hunter tech to always try to netherwalk
taunt the second phases, second tankbuster, although I would like to see that happen.
It would be good tech.
But here we go.
Mirage goes down.
He's going to take the soulstone.
That means that we are using the battle res on him and none are available for solar
revs.
They're going to continue.
They are resetting the boss, right?
No, no, no.
They are going to continue practicing this, which I think makes sense on a post-dinner
pull.
Did she get back into the flow of everything?
Makes a lot of sense.
in one minute and 30 which we will be able to send on to one of our DPS but for
not one that will probably be sent to Revvers in order to gain his rallying
cry a big yes defensive CD for the group they are chaining those rallying
cries during the intermission giving everyone a nice bolstered health pool
making it make sense they live through the onslaught of re-decides which slayed
soul and Revvers one of the strong things I imagine about running a
resto shaman here as well the increased health pool that they provide to
people when they are sending out all the chain heals. Unfortunately Zeruo,
what he's done his job in terms of battle-resing so it doesn't matter that
he ends up dying himself, we can continue pushing it as we're heading into the
second intermission here. Plus a 46% health, not looking too bad. At least we
could certainly get some good practice in. Who knows, that last phase we do
need to learn to survive during it. Let's see if we can get there.
Absolutely, it's good to shake off that post meal rust. Everyone maybe a
little bit more thorough after an excellent meal denser. It's from the
private chefs here at the SK Gaming Magenta facility in Cologne.
We have Hopeful going very low.
He does get top, fortunately.
Clicks going down.
He may onk, but if so, it'll be after the intermission is over.
It's far too dangerous.
One of the problems of this intermission is that, as people die,
the regicides that would have gone on then go on other players instead.
So there is the reset.
We got two practices in the regular phase, which is identical.
There's one phase two, phase three, and two practices of the intermission,
which is identical in intermission one and intermission two.
The only real difference, I suppose, between the phases is when healing cooldowns are available.
So as an example, the first pull-in in the very beginning of the fight were absolutely fine.
But who knows, the second pull-in in the very first phase one, we have these cooldowns,
they're not going to be the same cooldowns that you have again, so it might be a little bit more scary,
you might need to be playing in a slightly different manner.
But it's all been worked out to the tee, of course, with Potter on site.
Chris Potter returning, the healing officer from pre-Shadowlands times,
Ending his career or at least taking a hiatus at the end. Oh, no, it was Shadowlands consumed his soul like so many other
Wild Players he quit after Jailer. That was it. Yeah
Many many others but he is back after a one expansion hiatus governing the healing cooldowns of everyone in the raid
Yep
Assigning out a very detailed timeline of exactly when you are supposed to use your personals and when you're supposed to send
Your utility to someone else. We have lots of utility in here for narco bringing a blessing of sacrifice for example
evokers bringing Zephyr and all kinds of other good things. We have time
dilations and all the buttons are being used every single one or even seeing
cursive weakness put up on the boss for example. So every single bit of tech they
can bring to bear is being brought to bear. We also see a very cute gateway
coming out from Zerwo who uses his teleport and gateway to micro move
back and forth over the slicers in the intermission. Have you seen this?
Surely it's just worth just walking. No, I've watched him do it and I played it for the stream
I found a clip he he does use it to Gateway
Two feet and get a cast going faster than you would have by walking. It's faster than walking by
Can't you just be on the very dividing line and just do a little pixel side steps?
You can't usually do it exactly that well because the regicide sometimes force you to move a little bit more
We've got the group split up into
Essentially partners all around the room and if if you need to move a little bit further because of your partner's
Regicide you have to and in those instances. He will get way back instead of walking and it saves him at least 200 ms
Well, these are my max of the things you need to do
Especially because one of the reasons that we're playing this one tank strategy and one reason that we have it
We're seeing the players play
Quite riskily, you know, they're being quite greedy
Is because the damage check on this fight is insane
You know we need to do so much damage to beat the six minute 30 second long in rage timer and
Considering everything here kind of one taps you it's not only the boss is trying to kill you
But you have to play in a way that you're kind of cheating death a little bit anyway
Just to make sure that you're getting as much damage as possible. You do that's why we've got the one tank and four healers
Hopefully next week when other guilds well there are other guilds waiting to pull this boss
But it honestly feels a little bit pointless
But like for the majority of normal mythic guilds that might be working on
Russian honor already got it down. They're kind of just waiting for science to happen
Hopefully a little bit of gear maybe a little bit of a post reset nerf on these two bosses might do the game a little good
Obviously, don't not asking for anything to change right now because you know the guilds are working so hard on them
That might be a little bit nice to make it so the rest of the player base can fight down brew twister
Of course the boss will pick up a little bit of a natural passive nerf through obtaining
that second week of nithi gear on farm, however, the sixth boss, not the ultimate boss, not
even the penultimate boss, but the next to last boss, requiring a one tank strategy with
three planned tank sacrifices in order to do the damage necessary to kill it with perfect
gameplay from every single player, which is end boss levels of difficulty, is a little
bit off kilter and might justify a slight adjustment going into reset. We will see however. It is
interesting this boss requires around 19.2 million raid-wide DPS and she kills pretty
much everyone six minutes and 34 seconds into the pull when she coats the room with
darkness and night and slays everyone except if he hasn't used it, nice memes can live
an extra six seconds by netherwalking or meta-immuting the first hit and of course the tank can live
through several. Rycen, if he hasn't used the beforehand, can go into his angelic spirit
form upon death and spam heals into mirrors to extend his duration up to around 17 seconds
after enrage giving them around around 648 to 650 of life.
What was that thing that you threw at the beginning of the fight, that little candle
that gave in?
Oh, I didn't look.
Hmm.
That's something that I think I probably should know.
going down now this is intended death with the totemic restoration available he comes back up
gets a little bit of a heel taunts the boss she's busy casting in the interim so everyone is quite
safe now they're going to go into the middle for the second set of charges that will be sent
all the way through the middle in order to dispel the final death masks these are called
middle charges with their week or you can see that death mask two of them down in the bottom
both glowing red they'll go straight through the boss no problem and they will take their
charged to the far side of the opposite ad so they only get hit by their own applying that
Queensman. Unfortunately, Mir is going down in an unplanned manner.
Do you have a res available for him though? So probably looking to use the nice meme tech on
the next one, but Wall Life also going down might just be worth doing a little reset. We're
only about a minute 30 into the fight. It might be a reset angle, but I would love to see
them try the nice memes tech. They are going for the reset. I want to see them be forced
into the nice memes tech so that they start thinking maybe it's worth doing every single
time. She did however teleport in the middle for the intermission which means that the reset failed.
I don't see how it would be worth doing every single time. Why not? Because if he gets a
charge on him he's pretty much a guaranteed dead. Yeah but that happens one out of three times. He
only has about a 33% chance to get a turret. So you're trading a guaranteed death and a guaranteed
loss of battle res for a 1 and 3. Hmm, I don't know. Pretty good trade. In terms of the DPS
loss just because of having a nice move to go down to his other way slamming so hard,
I don't know it gives me the GBs. I must admit. It's a little bit scary having that be a consistent strategy
I hear your GBs and raise you math sir. If you can math it out for me, baby
If you can math it out
But the fact that the way that he needs to play when he has that
It is very scary is and it's not exactly out there
He the healers are then having to spend a ton of resources on him that might also be GPS loss
So that is just lost elsewhere
There is a very high pressure point for an already very high pressure situation
True, it's true. The way that Nice Memes does it, if it's done successfully, is he taunts just before the second tank buster of Phase 2 and pops Netherwalk in order to immune the upfront damage of the tank buster, which would otherwise kill him.
However, you cannot immune the application of the dot and vulnerability that that applies
And so he's sitting there taking millions of damage from the dot which in order to survive requires at least one external typically a time dilation and
The use of his own personals as well including blur to get through so it is a large commitment of resources
But in exchange you retain a battle res which allows one other person to make a mistake
Also might end up causing him black it is great if you can survive the debuff don't get me wrong
but when you're in the intermission you need to use so many
personals in order to survive the registered blaze lines
then you're also going into that phase with nice memes
being pretty dry so once again needing babysitting from other
healers in terms of externals and stuff I don't know it might be that the juice ain't
worth the squeeze on that one but as I said I think it's more for a
mathematical question rather than a vibe thing so it'll be
interesting to find out what they end up doing
difficult to execute so yes not particularly reliable
There you see the weak aura, notifying Kanax that he was going to be getting rescued, so he did not bother moving where he needed to go.
He was safe in the hands of Frago. That is the banana strategy. You hear them calling on comms every now and then.
This is a private aura placing the debuff that lets you put the void zone down, so you can't use a weak aura to detect that debuff.
Instead, you need to push a macro saying, I have it. Then once you press that macro,
Echo is weak or we'll say assign four evokers to grab four of the people with
Void Zones and put them in their place allow them to get some extra casting of
time and more importantly giving them a shield. The evokers have taken a talent
that when they rescue someone it gives each of them a two million shield kind
of obviating the damage from that assassination and making it much more
likely to survive the subsequent dock. A nice bit of tech that has taken some
of the pressure off the healers. Yeah I remember when we were first
implementing the banana strategy as we are calling it now because of the
way that they refer to it in comms so that people actually pay attention I was very
we was all a little bit unnerving as to whether or not it was worth it there was a
lot of inconsistency issues at the beginning with the evokers not really
sure where they're going to be putting people who they're actually assigned to
some people not trusting the evokers afterwards unfortunately so going down
but maybe a reservoir we will see but the yeah it was a pretty scary let's
just say that it didn't look like it was worth it at all but it's turning
out to be pretty damn good. Saving a lot of healing. What did you say? 50 million healing
over the course of a fight? Or is it each pull?
Instance.
Oh, each pull.
Which is fairly considerable.
Very nice.
Indeed. It only took around 100 pulls to make consistent, and that's well worth it
at this juncture, even though it didn't look like it was 100 pulls ago.
But this is a very, very difficult fight, going into the 200 plus to 300 pull range,
so you can take 100 pulls to work out a fairly intricate weak aura that allows
you to say the considerable amount of triage healing on the people most likely to die,
which is a constant problem for the healers. This is an incredibly intense healer fight
because the unavoidable damage of the charges, the queens, veins, and the assassinations
is tuned such that it is very likely to take you close to that lethal 10% health threshold
at which the boss will simply assassinate you with the Reaper mechanic. And so anyone
with any of those attacks must be topped above at least 91% in order to be able to survive,
which means the healers are constantly calculating who needs the next heal in order to make sure
that they live with the upcoming mechanic that they are going to take. And anyone taking
something that they shouldn't have, the charge that they were not anticipating, will die
because the healers will have left them at 70 or 60% anticipating that ancillary
raid healing would top them instead.
You can see that. I just love the beginning. Oh, Mara's going all deliberately that
it's installed.
amount of damage onto the raid is far from deliberate though, but you're right,
Mara's going down there deliberately as he would have, but the rest of the group
unfortunately following him into the abyss leading to a quick reset on the
boss. It's nice to be able to reset a boss like this considering it's one where
you just want to keep going again and again and again, keep re-rolling those
dice, hopefully having a pool where everyone is not only playing the top of
their game, but also getting situations that they find easy enough to
navigate because this fight definitely has that sort of high variation
Where you're not entirely too sure what so the room you're gonna be forced to how exactly you're gonna have to dodge all the different
Nexus blade combinations with the daggers going across the room let alone all the charges and the balls
It's all over the place crazy crazy stuff whilst also doing an immense amount of damage with all the healers doing everything
They can't try and keep your life. It's not easy
As you can tell by the fact that all of the best players in the world are currently working on it with a combined over
650 odd pools maybe 700 pools between
The top guilds working on this boss right now. It's hard very very difficult
It is a very difficult boss and to that end the splits never stop good news
Neither will the music progress but echo is currently looking for folks to help gear up someone by doing a normal
Olgrex split if you are unsaved to the first boss probably to acquire that trinket
Yes, then please go into the group finder go to raids and dungeons look for echo and sign up to help get that
Trinket that is a very powerful bit of kit for anyone that is worried about dying if there's a lot of healing
It's a nice little pink trinket that some of the DPS have been equipping. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense
We're for sure. Of course, we did end up doing a heroic split earlier today in a way that we were all a little concerned about
But it turned out just to be some parallel thinking with I think it was velo
Yes, having some space to gain some more gear whether or not he equipped any of it is to be known
Yeah, here we go. One of the new flasks, your stats are being randomised every 30 seconds.
Yep, with an increase to 1 and a reduction to a couple of others.
Yeah, an interesting flask. A lot of those kiss-curse things.
There it is. Echo normal Algrax. Quick kill for the Trinket for one of our Raiders.
Loot Reserved. Wecora required. That Wecora is one that auto passes you on the loot
and confirms that you are not saved to the boss so that they have the maximum opportunities to loot that item.
that item so go check out the group finder in order to acquire that trinket is a tanking trinket that
with a believe a 90 second cooldown you place a debuff on the boss causing it so that your attacks
heal you a little bit any healing that over heals you turns into a shield so an extraordinarily
effective little that sounds very useful bit of self-sustained that a couple of the melee in
particular are using I think rev is and a few other the melee so looking to grab that as we
do execute the banana strategy flawlessly. We're just taking the boss to fill in the last gap.
Yes sir. Question for you. With obviously we got the banana strat which is very nice to have the
two healing evokers for. Assuming that healing evokers, preservation evokers weren't doing
such extraordinarily ridiculous healing which may be a nerf in the future, do you think that it's
actually worth bringing two shamans to this fight instead? Oh absolutely. If you could,
If the if the shamans were doing sufficient enough HBS for the job and you had four healer slots
Mm-hmm. It feels like double shaman priest and
X is the way to go
Just because having those on terms imagine. Yeah, that's how useful that'll be. Yeah, yeah, and spirit link
It's a great fight for shamans because of the fact that the vast majority of the time
You are very stacked up everyone can be in the healing rain lots of good work from that
You can have the downpour going off the
Intermissions are dangerous with a shaman because all you can really do is rip tide and chain heal
But they are phenomenal in the main phases with spear links and long totem can also be used in the end mission
Yeah, you would absolutely use another shaman preservation of a critter nerf into the absolute ground
Yes, obviously preservation. They would need to be nerfed by something like 50%
Pres is um, I think there's just a lot of fights not only are they incredibly good at stacked up healing
But there's a lot of fights where you want to have the raid very heavily stacked up right now
Yes, if you look at Brute Twister the rage very stacked up if you're looking at Cavesa here
The raid apart from in this intermission is very stacked up
I wonder going forward though when we're starting to look at fights such as
The silk and core as to whether or not we will be having a lot of stacked up for situations
It's in the group needs to be in those two ten man teams. It might lower the efficiency so to speak of
Preservation maybe somewhat. I don't know how that would also carry forward to answer
I doubt that we're going to start sitting present, so they're going to be wrong, but maybe they're going to be less ridiculous because of the way that the fights are designed.
The thing is, is that most healers suffer when moving from stack to spread out.
Rest of Shaman suffers almost to the exact same degree that Preservation Invoker does.
Preservation Invoker's spread healing is relatively good compared to the other healers, certainly compared to something like a Rest of Shaman.
They're just too powerful right now at the bench.
They have by far the largest raw HPS with that engulfed build doing ridiculous amounts of healing
We do get the link going down here, but Zazi goes down right after dropping it which means that it also fades
He does send the onk of course that's basically mandatory
You what if you want this pull to continue all four healers must be alive
Oh, yeah, this fight will not be three yield anytime soon
We do lose mirrors that was the intended one which he will soul stone flex taking down a little bit from that Queen's
we are struggling to catch up the healers need to do a little bit of
blasting before this incoming set of charges through the middle it looks
like we've stabilized yeah with the nether refs the first another ref obviously
is kind of scary because you've got some queen veins going out because of the
assassinations before the subsequent ones do allow the healers to kind of
have everyone stacked up and take the time to heal people just before these
second charges go through hopefully all no players going down too low fellow
Kind of getting a bit close as well as not, but we're right
We sent an external on him so he's completely fine and while I simply died by the sword to maintain his own life
Mira's very
Scareally low we've seen tanks die at this point before for sure now dying here
This is one of the points at the very end that third tank busts are coming in super painful
Yes, they were able to get through it still only one player down. They're gonna get back into their
partners as you've been putting it with two range players on each of the spokes
coming away from the middle of the room with one melee player the same way as a
six ones I guess there's gonna be some people that overlap in somewhere where
you need four on a line where two people kind of do the right thing.
Hopefully going down that halo from Ryzen's Archon hero talent set up doing
enormous work doing spread healing during this phase however if you do
get clipped by someone else's regicide along with your own you will simply
die each regicide hit doing around 50 to 60% of your health so two at once
is instant death rise and making it through with use of that guardian spirit. So we are two DPS down
as we head into phase three which is the interesting one where ideally Mirz is going to live through
both the first and second void shredder just long enough to enable Zotzi to drop the second
onk totem in order to bring him up without using battle res. We'll have to see if that works,
that second tank vessel will be coming out along with the first charges.
See the battle is going out already very wise. Unfortunately one of those markers being slightly off
It looks like the banana strat didn't work as well as we wanted, but it should still be doable
It's just gonna be a little bit off. It's very unsafe in the places people are used to it being safe
So someone might get clipped here. Okay managed to make it through one meter
They makes it to eight stacks of the void charters alive
So he is in fact going to die inside the on totem here perfectly done takes the boss back
does get a heal well done we are in business none of the healers getting
chosen for the charges they're also paying dividends making so they can
stay in the middle of the room and chill out which is awesome so this is
looking to be a very impressive pull thus far that's going to go through one
more cycle of the mechanics the charge is going to go straight through the
boss here unfortunately Fanna is chosen for this particular mechanic
hopefully is three other healers are able to help him as Maevok is going
incredibly low it looks like we were able to push through that's you get
Exhausting night is sniped down. No, I'm available, but they're gonna do everything their power to at least practice this upcoming phase
Boss is gonna go sub 20% as the last nether rifts come through we need to keep people alive during this before we enter this very last and
Eternal night, which is extraordinarily difficult to do because coming into this final intermission
The bosses damages buffed by 30% in the last phase instead of the three death masks
She begins the fight with she has five forcing you to send two through her on the first charge and three on the second
When she takes three death masks in a row survive so much permanently for third by 30% damage
So this entire mission as well as that last suck doing 30% more damage
We see nice memes one of the most survivable of the players doing his best to dance back and forth
Regicides going out for every person that is dead so people are taking two at the same time as we head into the very end
end of the intermission and the hardened rage comes out as she casts this eclipse. Will he get an
immune? He's in at the walk of the moment just to prolong any sort of dots and things like that. He
also tried to try to immune it, which was really cute. That people survived in that intermission
a lot longer than I expected that very last phase there in the eternal night, but I guess it down
one human. It's interesting. And not only will we down one healer, we will down other
players making it so that each individual player was dealing on average with more of the blaze
lines with more of those red for sidelines. However, by having it so there's less players
around it's more likely that you aren't going to have people getting double hit.
Yep, that's true.
So it's a weird sort of area where yes, each individual person is taking on average more
damage, but that damage is maybe a little bit better understood by the player taking
it so they can use their CDs more appropriately.
Fair enough.
So, but it's really good to see. Obviously, not a new best pull in terms of percentage,
but certainly a new best pull in terms of survivability in that aspect.
So really crucially, we do now have a well-documented, well-practiced proof of concept of the overall
strategy that enables them to use one battle res for an error instead of in a planned way.
One battle res, of course, with this entire fight, can be used for an error instead of
in a planned way because we did in fact succeed with Mirrors, living through that
second tankbuster of the last phase, enabling him to stay alive just long enough for
the Onk Totem to come back up and be placed.
That is important because that is the entire reason why they made the shift a few hours
ago from robin on the guardian druid with swag on the wind walker to mirrors on the
brewmaster with kenyx on the druid.
They're keeping the exact same debuffs mystic touch and they're keeping the exact same buff
mark the wild, but the brewmaster by throwing every single cooldown and a time dilation
at that tank buster can live just long enough to make it to the onctodem.
They can't live indefinitely because the time dilation by itself which prevented
his best to the tank buster then redistributes the damage just like stagger and it just murders
him with millions of damage.
You kind of want that to happen though because we don't want him to be running around with
8 stacks and then get 12 stacks eventually, that's just going to be an absolute pain for
your healers.
So having the time dilation is kind of like the perfect cooldown for it.
You can survive for a little bit and now I'm going to kill you.
Exactly at the right moment.
Exactly.
I was actually a little bit worried in terms of the way that he died.
I don't know if we do I didn't ask for a replace. I don't know if we'll be able to get it up in time, but the
The way that he died that was pretty it was a little bit too late. It was scary
It worked there was no mechanical fail that the way he died instantly res and torn to the boss
Just as those portals were placed down the boss could have run off and placed a ball in a bad spot
And one of those rifts in the bad place is more than enough of a reason to wipe everyone
Especially in such a high pressure situation the boss in 30% more damage
Absolutely true. It's a testament to the precision of this strategy, right?
The first deaths and second deaths are positioned precisely at a time when the boss is casting and therefore won't melee someone else and
right before you need to place the final portal.
So Mirrors is able to do it and it even gives him a little bit of breathing room.
He can wait one moment, take a heal and be not in danger as he takes the boss.
Oh, yeah.
That final one is significantly less precise,
which means that sometimes he may be taunting while still at 20% health, take a melee, go under 10, get re-break.
So that one's still very scary and it's the least practiced and most precarious of all of the tank sacrifices
So one that we're going to need to keep an eye on because the cooldown of on totem being five minutes
Forces them to delay it past that ideal moment when they do it for the first two deaths
Yeah, the way that they pre-place it you can see the on terms already down a load mirrors is not going to be dying for a
Little while, but they've got it down nice and early. They timed it perfectly
So as soon as he dies, that's when the totems due to timeout anyway, you can see the excellent use of water time
They're placing it in the middle of the room before double blinking out. Oh, that is a very unfortunate. That's a reset
Yeah, that's a great opportunity to show that the boss can be dragged to the edge and that is simple enough to reset
You don't need to send out anything. You can just take it to the staircase and she's like, okay
You can leave for now. It's a replay of this apart with merits
Sorry to interrupt your group for that as you can see that he goes down at that instantly taunts and then
the rifts come up. That's how close it is. Can we have that one more time? Sorry.
Maybe slow motion. Yeah, that'll be cool. So you can see here, his dots are ticking
down, ticking down the rifts are due to spawn real soon. He clicks his totemic
taunts, then literally within a second there come the rift.
0.4 seconds before the rift cast is going to be completed. So that could have gone
on down in a very unfortunate way. They're going to be looking at that
and trying to tweak exactly how they can ensure he dies just a little bit
earlier to make that safe. But yeah, for some reason this boss, despite
It's being a fearsome assassin is terrified of stairs and if you drag her on the stairs, she just leaves
Don't know why yeah, she's had enough. Yeah, oh
Maybe just get a stairs
That's what I said, oh
Maybe just get a sense
They all terrify a secret dies with you as we head back into the pool
Daxi will be placing the Onk Totem at a very precise time that Wiccora alerts him to so that it will still be up for a
Second when Mira is supposed to be dying
But earlier placed in now is earlier placed later making that have a little bit more safely way on that final death in phase 3
But that's the fight. It's it's very repetitive in no way
Does it change from phase 1 to phase 2 to phase 3 until at the very end of phase 3?
She takes three death masks and becomes 30% stronger as though people weren't dying before
So we're going to be seeing the world marker charges here as Mears positions the boss to get hit by one of the death masks.
In phase one and phase two Mears has to select a correct intersection to ensure that at least one in phase one and two in phase two death masks are crossing the boss.
If he doesn't, we can have a white two not enough death masks being soaked and one remaining as we go in the inhibition which kills everybody.
As you can see as well, generally if he can, he will always pick the intersection that will also have it so that no ad spawns behind him.
behind him so you can just keep the boss there the melee don't have to run around during the
mechs display which of course could could lead to further death so a nice little refinement of
the strategy I don't think it's 100% guaranteed that you can do that make that decision but he
is doing it as often as you possibly can absolutely now the boss is buffed by 20% for
these queens, veins and viscera the balls flying across the room so it's a dangerous
intersection of mechanics that requires careful play if you get hit there you will die now
that 20% buff has faded that's what happens until phase three when she takes three death
masks at once. So we're going to be going into our first intermission with our combat razz retained
as planned. No deaths as yet. We're watching everyone's health to see if anyone hits that dangerous
10% threshold with judicious use of personals to try to protect yourself. Barks being going up on
Kenex, Mayvokar popping his personal as well. Wall life goes down, Velo's personal goes up as this
Fragile Rallying cry now providing a nice health benefit to everyone making it less likely that
they get under that threshold. So far one death we're going to get one more hit on every
single person to the raid, Marco Bubbles. Very, very nice. He can hold still and stop
terrorizing everyone around him. Unfortunately, Fanner going down. That will require the battle
reds or a reset.
I imagine the reset is unfortunate because of course, we'll have more left going down
as well. We missed that second rally that we'd normally use at the end of that phase.
So an unfortunate series of events leading to a reset there. But it's one of these,
this is just how the fight goes. You just gotta keep slapping and slapping and slapping
and to eventually you get a pool that everything kind of works out on, it's just so easy for it to just start to death spiral.
Yeah, it really is.
The first several rounds of regicides pick about a third of the raid per swipe,
and you can get hit by someone else's as long as you don't have your own as well,
and potentially get healed back up before yours applies.
At the very end, she puts a regicide on every single person, which hits for 50% plus of your health,
So if you intersect any of those, you become deceased.
The thinner, unfortunately, got hit by his and someone else's
and went down.
So that is a dangerous dance, and one
that they've constantly been reviewing, saying, OK,
so this was hard, but you should have gone left.
This one was hard, but you should have been not
in this area of the room at all.
They've assigned some very precise mapping to everyone
to try to minimize the degree and likelihood
of those interlaps.
Interlaps, I merged intersection and overlap.
That's cool.
Interlaps, a new word.
It's a more efficient way of speaking.
But it's still just very, very hard.
So we are losing some of those intermissions frequently.
Which is why it's so nice that their strategy now, with the change to the Ankh-Totem Timing,
enables them to have one battle res, but we can only lose one, whereas there we lost two.
Yeah, nice. Everyone's so fragile.
Everyone, the Nexus Princess is probably just a little bit too powerful.
She is too powerful for us.
So, until we learn to play the game a bit better, unfortunately Kai Vazir is just going to keep racking up those kills.
Or until the damage done by her abilities is nerfed by about 5%,
making it more plausible that people can live.
People just seem to be better at the game.
That's what Blizzard is saying.
They're like, you know, you're coming to this rage,
you think you're going to be able to kill it?
Here, I have Kaiveza.
She's not even the last boss.
Not even close to the last boss.
Oh, you can't even kill Kaiveza.
Oh, you can't kill the last see them, can you?
You're not cool enough.
You don't get enough of the game.
That's exactly what Blizzard is saying.
So there's been some tinfoil-ing going on.
I'm looking at the casters.
That's definitely been wearing tinfoil hats.
Wondering if perhaps Kaiveza, this difficult,
might result in the Silkencourt being not as difficult as anticipated, because many people
coming into the tier that thought that the Silkencourt would be the first wall. It has
a double boss, it's an ultimate boss, and it has this crazy mechanic of orbs going
on. I've heard rumors that some scouting has been done, some farsight used to check
out the health of the boss. While Nexus Princess has a meaty seven and a half billion,
very difficult health to get through, it looks like Silkencourt has in the realm
of double. Yeah I think that's fine because they do have a shared health pool. Double.
Shared health pool, longer fight, it'll be fine. There you go. You get that from me. No, it's
also one of those things that when the guilds are on the fights very very early on as I'm
sure you're aware that when you first get to a fight the boss health might do a little
bit of bouncing around. There's a few last minute changes including to Nexus Princess
before the actual advertised nerf, you know where they said we are reducing her health
by 6%, I think it was, as well as the Queen's Bane damage by 10%. Before that advertised
nerf, she had 777777777 health and I think it went up to 88.008, fair childish, um, well,
so, you know, there was some meme health pause before they finally settled on the health
pool that we have now. I imagine that will also happen to the Silicon Court. Yes. About
the silken core because I'm with you and I'm with everyone else that boss sounds
ridiculous it's incredibly difficult it could go down as one of the hardest
bosses known to man in terms of any in recent memory could be harder than
Tindra even especially from what we saw out of the beta testing. However I think
that is a universe and this is one that I'm not sure we live in mind you but
I think there is a universe where that fight isn't as crazy as everyone
expects it to be. Where the real difficult elements of it are the
new method mechanic and making sure that you're dancing around one another, but with
months of time to think of different systems and movement systems for it, it could already
go in and the groups have largely solved it.
And I'm not just talking just about your method of liquid, I've also had a really good
think about it, right?
Here's another scenario in which it might turn out to be significantly easier than
anyone expected.
Week one it would have been haulandrous, but if nobody kills Princess Kaveza until
the end of this week and nobody goes into seasill concord until next reset and everyone
as five additional item levels might be very appropriately tuned boss maybe so
yet could be tuned for that talking of tuning as well actually it's very
difficult like tuning for a single target boss fight yeah in itself is hard
let alone a sometimes two target stack sometimes spread cleave sometimes
damage and sometimes not double damage shielded but not always shielded boss
as a penultimate boss is so easy to miss the mark yeah either by making it
far too difficult or making it far too easy because players will just come in and say well
actually on two target cleave you can bring these three classes, stack them as much as you possibly
can and absolutely annihilate the boss you know what I mean obviously we've got class buffs and
things to consider as well so there is a universe where they fix the movement system just by you
know doing some cooking long long ago they know what prox all of the different orbs as an
example so they could look at how it works on heroic and you could add the background
analysis basically making a big heroic version of the fight the mythic version and with those
time is in hoping it's very similar and considering how they want to do all of the changes, you
know, you could certainly have built it in such a fashion. So there's a small chance that if all
of those things line up, it might only be a 300 pull boss rather than an 800 pull boss.
Some copian as we go into the intermission and all of the assigned personnel start getting popped.
The first rallying cry coming out along with Kenix's bark skin and the Voker
personals that rallying cry expiring very soon will be chained into another one.
Zephyr coming out from the evoker is just an enormous use of every raid wide and personal available to keep everyone alive
Through the first intermission. Actually done. Technically Alex. We've both said this. This is just the exact same thing again
Yeah, yeah phase one and phase two are identical pretty much in terms of strategy and in terms of the amount of damage
The boss does and it's a bit more doing a tiny tiny bit more damage
But the only difference between phase one and phase two is this very immaterial change that for 12 seconds of phase
two should do 10% more damage than she did for the 12 seconds in phase one that she was
at last. That doesn't matter. And that bit of the damage that part of the phase is what
when the blades are going off? Yes. Really it's just the taking damage from the ads its
increase and maybe some of the tank damage which ups she's killing the tank during that
period anyway right? So it's not that much of a big deal talking of death. Here we
are going to have a death. Mira is going to be going down deliberately to these void
shredders and then taking the soul stone, positioning the boss, getting healed up
and we are still in business everything going according to plan
as we head into the
so-called
all those a little bit off but he's fine we're going to go into the second suck
followed by the second charges these charges will go straight through the
middle of the room
dispelling the
final to death mass you can see that glowing red add in the top left of the
going right to the boss
in order to uh... get rid of that that's not very likely none of these
going on healers uh... he should be able to sit there and kind of chill do
some big healing of which they'll need to put into marriage fully enough
As he does take a lot of damages, he needs to get the boss in a good position for these
upcoming...
Oh, and last never.
Nationally, Rycen gets clipped, gets taken into his angel form.
That means he can cast mana free for a while, but it also means that the raid is in a significant
amount of trouble for 50 seconds without a battle rate.
Has he got their talent, which makes us very restless after that?
No, it hasn't been using that, unfortunately.
I think that would be a good call.
I'd love to see him come back up right now.
No.
No, okay.
He's not using that talent, so we're doing this in a mission without a healer for at
at least 37 seconds, which means we're doing the entire animation without a healer.
That's going to be extraordinarily difficult.
These people need to play out of the mines and hope they didn't use their health zone on the first one.
They are going down. That's the end of this poll.
Yep, unfortunate.
It has been done before in terms of getting through an intermission with a healer dead.
Getting through the intermission with two healers dead.
Well, they might be able to pull it off here, unfortunately.
They're going to reset as soon as they can.
Even still, you're not going to be getting through the next phase with that many healers dead.
And we will have about a res, like one battle res available.
I'm shocked and very impressed that we only have two extra people die.
I mean so well done saving of gold for all that that matters. You did see the bosses health down below 38% going into that intermission
Which is quite good. Not bad. Not very very good on track to potentially kill if we didn't have those deaths
It was an excellent fall as they say until it wasn't
Yeah, it's um just goes to show how rough it is even with all of the healers not having to deal with the charge mechanic
Unfortunately, the blades plus the orbs at the same time as Ryzen needing to do some sort of long form cast
I'm not sure if he's divine himming there or anything
But there must have been a situation where he was put between a rock and a hard place
Everything is very geometric in terms of the things that you control
But when it comes down to the Nexus blades that is something that you can't control
They are all over the place and sometimes you just put in a really rough spot
I don't think anything is impossible might you but some of them are far harder than others
And he's got caught out there into an untimely demise
Now you do know roughly where those blades are going based on the facing of the ads and they've mapped that out a little bit
And kind of assigned places to go in order to dodge most effectively
But looking at the logs as I've done almost exclusively all day
enormous portions of the deaths occurring in this fight are still due to those
Individual errors when blades and viscera the balls are both flying around at the same time you can get trapped and caught
And several people every single person in the raid in fact has been hit by that multiple times
So it's course of the day. It's got very difficult to dodge
And that's what this fight is going to require because if you get hit by one of those you will die
Guaranteed because you're not receiving the dedicated attention necessary to put you over 90% in order to survive a hit like that
The players who are supposed to take damage from the Queen's Vane and charge are receiving that dedicated attention
So I would say two out of three deaths in
Progression has been to that kind of avoidable but difficult mechanic and then another one out of four or so deaths is
is due to a, you know, a tribunal either misuse of a personal health stone or health potion
or mishealing, as in slightly identifying the wrong target,
slightly messing up an end goal for something like that, which is another part of progress.
This is an extraordinarily difficult healing fight.
In fact, they have weak or as assigning individual healing targets during the Queen's Banes
and one error with the Global can cause someone to just pick down and die.
I wonder, and this would be a question that I think you'd be able to best answer,
Would you say that healing at the beginning of an expansion is the most difficult to vibe with in the same way?
But because we've got all of these classes that are now healing in slightly different fashion
Such as the way that the engulf healing is happening for the preservation of focus the fact that those crazy halos are going out
And all those sorts of things slight changes to the way that people actually get their output out
Do you think that is?
Encouraging of more miscommunication just or not necessarily miscommunication
but miss healing because you're used to how the pre-sealed in the past or you're used to how that resto show and would have healed
But a couple of expansions to go mind you
But is that sort of thing more prevalent in the very first here or is it actually just something now because of the way that here
It's happened it is certainly more prevalent at the beginning of a first here as you get used to the new way in which your class plays
Of course you practice some beta, but the most the good practice the valuable practice
what happens the first several mythic bosses as you come into learning how your class works
and figures out the ins and outs and the actual nuances and and the min max and optimization
required to get the most out of it at this level. So typically you will have the worst healer play
at the beginning of an expansion at the start of that tier particularly when you have an entirely
new system like either Azerite or Hero Talon significantly changing how that plays and often
you'll have new metas discovered later after the tier because it's all so new and being layered by
those new systems. Ideally, healers are able to stick to the same class throughout the tier and by
the time they get to a hard boss, they've pulled bosses 400, 500 times, they have learned how to
get the very most out of the class, but this tier has been wild in that it's forced almost
everyone to play multiple specs and multiple classes, everyone rerolling left, right and
center as these bosses require the utmost of comp-building from these guilds so for example
banner who went into this tier prepping nothing but holy paladins and playing holy paladin for
every single boss then goes ret on brew twister and is now evoker on the princess so he has not
had the opportunity to have that practice and yet still playing out of his mind with these brand
new evoker build of engulf so completely forgot he went wrong he was ret for entire boss this
This tier is so cooked, this is a cooked tier, I want to know.
Oh man, that is funny.
Oh, bless.
This tier is certainly bringing out quite a lot of very interesting builds that we was
talking about.
Oh, it's so hard to express oneself and having these strange degenerate cops in class stacking
as we go into a pool that we have four evokers and four mages on.
We could even bring more if we wanted to.
It seems that class stacking, at least for these two bosses, just because of how difficult
they've been, but by fruitwissa and nexus princess kiveza have been very very difficult.
Do you see hopeful using a very interesting weak order there at the top which each line
represents exactly when the slicer will go off allowing you to min-max your cast and tell
can i finish this cast and then move or do i need to move immediately. We do lose wall life
coming into this, we'll not be using the battle res on him because mirrors must die in around
40 seconds and requires that battle rest of wall I will be dead for at least the next few minutes until a second battle
Res becomes available
Depriving the raid of the second rallying cry, which was the reason for substituting a warrior in for a rogue
Earlier today or yesterday when they made that change very unfortunate
But now we're back into repeating phrase one the spirit link making sure everyone is very very safe for this first
suck and then the world marker charges coming and
mirrors his planned death going off at essentially the exact same time as this tank buster comes in and
Shreds his health bar take the soul stone top himself taunt the boss and we're back in business now
We have daggers plus orbs the most difficult dodging outside of the intermission
Hopefully no one getting clipped looks good so far as we're gonna get the second rifts in the big suck coming in
This whole group goes towards the middle, nice amount of healing coming out.
These next charges are going to be going straight through the boss's hitbox,
so everyone's going to be going into these little spots between on the floor,
in order to avoid the charges themselves.
So far so good.
Two of the healers are going to be out, though, both Ryzen and Zazi.
We've seen people die here very frequently before,
a very dangerous point in this phase, but it looks like,
I don't want to speak ahead of myself,
but it looks like we managed to get through that relatively easily.
The whole group is going to be nice and stacked up for this very last set of pull-ins.
Hopefully we can keep everyone top from a couple of the raid members going pretty low.
But yeah, looking good as we're going into the second intermission.
Unfortunately without War Life, he's very right in saying that we're going to be missing that rally.
And we're really going to be missing that rally, but we're going to see how well they can play it.
We have got for an intermission with two healers dead.
I'm sure we'll be fine without a rally.
We did come into the mission very, very healthy.
They've done better and better at getting everyone top as they start spreading out
and become less subject to that AUE healing.
Now it's in the hands of every individual radar
as we are popping personal health stones
and health potions to ensure we live if necessary,
because of course you'd like to preserve those
for the final one.
Everyone now getting a regicide,
everyone health need to be high enough to survive,
and they do die just barely, very well done
going into phase three,
which is identical to the other phases
except that now, when Meera's is dying
on the second tankbuster,
he will delay his death ideally
for as long as possible to make it more likely
It's actually can place that ancestral protection totem and get the onk on him and the battle rest has now come up here is wall life
I love to see that they're not they're playing to win not playing to practice
Yes, so you can see that you're entirely right all of the ads here now read as well
We've got to be very careful this first never if there's no we say they can kind of control
Excellent use of guardian spirit there as we're all going to have the first set charges that are going to be going towards the world
Markers we're going to be placing the boss up on any of the interception points here in order to make it so
that the boss is only hit by two, which has happened.
Merah's needs to survive for a little while here though.
This is the point where it's most scary.
He did it.
The un-totem is down.
He needs to die.
He stands in a line to do it at a better time.
Don't die though! He's so, so low at this point.
Fortunately getting some healing out on there,
bringing him above that very fatal 10% mark on the boss.
The boss dropping down to 24%.
We only have one more set of charges,
and then we should be looking to get towards the latest stages of this phase.
Let's see if they can pull it off.
Hopefully no healers are selected and they weren't.
That's correct. We did see an amazing play there tweaking the timing mirrors going down to a blade in order to come back up a little bit earlier
Ensuring that he can place that final void zone and prevent any melee from going down now the boss is buffed by 30%
Permanently so all of the dots the queen veins are ticking for significantly more and this sucks hurts
Very very badly as we go into the spirit link the spouting spirit added this expansion providing an enormous burst of healing
Everyone's soaking in that healing rain for as long as possible
And we're going to get a roar as we head out into the final intermission with everyone alive
But the boss doing so much damage these regicides hitting for 70% of your health
Yeah, you can see now the eternal night bringing out three of the eclipses trying to bring down echo flex going down
Unfortunately, ricin as well
But that spirit guarding spirit gonna be doing everything you can healing from beyond the grave no one else down just yet
This is looking excellent as the boss is going lower and lower 7% down now all players alive than a going down with
Hopefully the boss is going to be joining them. 6.8% for the boss right now.
4% this is going so well. Half the raid remaining live with 5.7.
We have a few more seconds before the final eclipse hits and clears the floor.
Everyone getting hit by the last one. This is the big hit.
We'll have a few people live. Narco live, Mirzalive, Nice memes live, Reviz as well.
Nice memes the last deep hits alive as the boss is at 5% running around in Netherwatch with the dots ticking.
Oh, what a pull!
They should be very happy with that.
The boss going down sub 4%, 3.9% something,
smiles across the faces of the players in Echo.
Wow.
Wow.
What a pull, not bad at all.
That was phenomenal.
And even that pull wasn't the perfection
that could have occurred.
We did have a couple of deaths that could have been
prevented and still we went into that last mission.
Everyone alive.
We had a couple of early deaths in the mission,
but with everyone alive going to the mission,
we had the boss going so low.
We didn't have wall life that entire pool dude!
Yeah, until the end!
Until the very end!
And obviously not griefing wall life, it wasn't wall life fault that all happened.
Of course.
It's like players are going to die in the intermission.
It's a very very standard thing.
But yeah, that's incredible.
We need to see more things like that and I'm so glad that the pools are becoming more consistent.
And we're so consistently getting to that last phase.
We saw a lot of little bitty tweaks.
Even in the last hour, after a full day of progress today and a full day of progress yesterday,
little tweaks to their strategy making it slightly more consistent and more replicable and that is wonderful
It's a huge smile on mirror this face as they take the boss down to four percent on a pole where we had a warrior die
Very very early in phase two and be down for an entire
Phase again no flame to him
But that's just testament to how much more damage could have been done
I've been avoided and again love to see we talked about at the beginning of this session that we wanted to see them
start playing to win instead of playing to practice, which is exactly what happened, because
they sent the battle res on Wall Life immediately trusting that the on-strat was going to work
with mirrors and that paid off.
And unfortunately, although I've been absolutely enjoying myself so, so much here, my time
has indeed come to an end. You are going to be joined by Nagura instead, who's going
to be taking hold. I'm going to be watching from the sideline, so this is getting
spicy.
Maybe at the desk a little bit after your 3.96.
3.96
So exciting, so thank you very much for having me
and we're gonna do a little, yeah we're gonna jump to uh
we're gonna listen to it with Wave for a bit
due to the cars for a while
so catch in a sec
Live for the end, mostly
So uh thank you for joining
It's, it's really great to see you
Yeah, also it's a lot of people
By the way, yeah
Meris has a touch as well, yeah
Yeah, it's very...
I was gonna add something to the DPS as well
The evokers
When are we getting the even mic?
because now I just had a 46 by mass that sent everything I don't know if it's the same
the other meters no even weird yes but it's like 30 right that's like 40 right five no no
okay I think I think I think we can do a five-third in
eight also hello could you rest thing I don't know where can you present yeah
I'm a complete noob, 35 and you, I'm looking at the logs in this last pool and
Mastin has like 130k more DPS. You guys doing the same buffs, same people?
No, I was in the pool and also it's like very so much from like what
mechanics you get. Sure, of course, yeah I'm just making sure that it is
optimized all right like we've used some tools and shit I don't know you you figured it out what's
good yeah yeah okay also narco why are you so low bro hey wait what happened okay okay I want to
show one other thing I mean I'm just looking at the mage pump at the start versus the end
like it would benefit from the loss there a lot more right like they're doing double damage
wonderful hello everyone and welcome back to the race the world first it is
heating up here in cologne as echo got a 3.96 percent wipe I'm joined on the
couch by the lovely Nagura welcome thank you very much yeah I saw that pool
right before I came in here and I was like this is the perfect moment for me
to join the cast yeah it is cast a kill now you can cast a kill that's right I
did do a little bit of digging because unfortunately on that kill or full
that potential kill there was speculation rampantly running around would it have died had one of the warriors not died
so I did some digging I went and found the moment at which wall I've died and
Took the time from there until he was back alive
Went and found how much damage Revis did during that period and just assumed all I would have done a similar amount of damage
How do you had he lived and I can now confirm
That had we not had wall I've died the boss would still be alive
we would have gained about 1.5% the boss would have been at 2.5% or so had
nothing else changed in the pool requiring another 190 million damage which
is why they didn't just say play better and pull again they got a lot they got
the exact same numbers in there as we did here they're not pulling because
they know they need 190 million extra damage and they're talking about
exactly how to acquire that they're fixing even might timings tweaking all
of the DPS cooldowns ensuring that everything is overlapping to the
maximum DPS amount possible because they need a little bit more damage. Of course
while I'm not the only death we also had a couple DPS go down to the second
Regicide cast and could have gained an additional 10 to 15 seconds of damage
from them but either way a wonderful pull with a lot of data that they are
now using to tweak their strategy. Yeah and of course at the very end there
when you get that last intermission before that end rage everything is a
bit chaotic and when you have like when you reach that phase for the
first time with everyone alive and it being a really good try. I'm sure there was also
a little bit of nerves in there and maybe some people not exactly like figuring out
their like what they're pressing and how they're maximizing the DPS there at the
very end. Some people may be playing it a bit more safe rather than trying to
sneak out all of that damage. So I do think they probably asked everyone's
like hey guys anyone that could have done a lot more damage and maybe
someone said yes actually I messed up my trinket or I messed up my evoker
buff or whatever it might have been so they'll figure out through that through
talking to the raids at this point if they will have enough damage without
changing anything like by just playing better or like maximizing the nails more
and if everyone kind of said oh we play perfectly like you're gonna be not
able to do more then they have to figure something out but until that is
the case they can continue to pull with like smaller adjustments here and
there absolutely and that's something that they're not saying they're not
saying we play perfectly lots of them saying okay we could have gotten
significantly more damage to that phase. Obviously the easiest sources were the
people who died early. That phase that was the first time as you said that they
got there with every single person allowed going into the intermission. So
it's the first time we saw exactly how many regicides people were likely to
get instead of picking up extra regicides as blaze slicers from people
being dead. And also for some players this is one of the few times they've
made it to the last phase of lives and seen how hard they hit because
phase 1 and 2 are phase 1, 2, and 3, and intermission 1 and 2 are largely
identical to each other in most ways. After phase 3's final charge, the boss is
permanently buffed by 30%, so that third intermission, those slicers are doing
30% more damage more than the players were used to from the last 214
pulls of intermission 1 and 2. It requires different management of
personals. It requires ideally the ability to preserve your health stone
and health potion until that moment so that you can live through what is hitting you for 65 to 70%
of your health every single time you get struck rapidly in succession. Yeah that's also something
that like right now they've tried to progress to get to that point where they're alive and now
they're gonna have to shift that over and now we need to get everyone till the end of the boss
fight. So not just to reach into the mission but also to get to that end rate. So as you said
like maybe they have to shift to much of the defensives even later than what they've had
done so far which of course is going to maybe even mean that we're going to see some
oh no regression possibly if we're holding more defenses that they would have used until now
like previously yes but hopefully that does happen hopefully that is not the case but yeah
sometimes you've slowly shift your whatever you need forward until you reach a certain point
then it looks like oh they're aggressing but they literally just like changing their strategy
to focus for an answer to a fine.
Absolutely true.
The rough outline, I can't give every single detail
of exactly how they've planned out all of their cooldowns,
but the rough outline is that healer cooldowns are largely
supposed to carry in phase one, two, and three.
Personal cooldowns plus the rallying cry,
which does very well in a spread environment,
are largely supposed to carry through the intermissions
along with health stones and health potions
in order to prevent yourself from dropping below 10%
and getting Reaper assassinated.
Now the focus is going to be on,
please do everything you can without dying to not use your health stone and health potion because
you need it in the third animation. If you thought you needed in second animation, of course you need
it that much more when things are hitting for 30% more damage. So trying to make it through with
healing personals and rallying cries instead of with those one use health stone and health
potions is going to be the goal. As we head into the first pull after a 4% wipe just a
moment ago while they finished fixing all of the strategy to say what to do in order to
find a little bit more damage.
Bianco is going down very very early in order to set up the death by mirrors at the very
end of its duration in order to increase the likelihood that he can make it through its
cooldown of five minutes to his second rez.
There's one thing that maybe you can explain to me because I actually haven't casted
this boss ever since they switched to that one tanking strategy and they've made some
adjustments as well to how they're doing the one tanking going from the Guardian
do it to the room answer for us yes so is there intention still to use a battle
rest so like two totemic revivals and correct us correct you your totemic
revival the first and third second tank busters and then you use a battle res
on the second one by applying a soulstone right after the on so they
begin immediately second instead of having to wait for a cast time that
leaves them with one battle res after phase two is over that they can use on
someone who has made a mistake. Last poll, a mistake was made before the first battle
was used and therefore that person was floor POV for several minutes. If they can wait
to be floor POV until after the second admission, that means that we can have one mistake at
that point with minimal loss of uptime. Because of this shift in strategy previously, it was
Onc Totem and two Rezes, because the cooldown of Onc Totem being five minutes meant that
you couldn't use it again, but they finagled the timing of it due to its duration, such
that the monk tank can live through the second tank buster for about six or seven seconds
just long enough to carry them over to the second octotum being placed. He does that by
using diffuse, dampen, and a time dilation from one of the evokers which acts as a kind of super
stagger, right? Delaying the damage just long enough that he then can die at the perfect time
to get the octotum. So in that case the Guardian Druid would have not been possible.
The Guardian Druid was never able to live through a second Tank Buster,
whereas the Brewmaster has successfully done it now three or four times.
Okay. It's still hard, but it's doable in a way that it wasn't with the Guardian Druid,
and that is why they made that change several hours ago.
Funnily enough, the boss is hard enough that though they made that change several hours ago,
the proof of concept wasn't actually demonstrated until fairly recently.
Yeah, okay. Very, very interesting. All right.
So they now have the one Belarus to use freely, which is
still not a lot when you think about how difficult this process is.
You would rather have those Ankh Totems and the rest is for the players rather than having to use it for the tank.
But of course those damage requirements and the buffs are absolutely crazy, so this is just what they have to do.
We do see a death here on the Babylon portion.
That's likely to be a reset because if it's not a reset, you can't do the boss with three healers.
He has to be Battle Res, which means that Miriz doesn't get his Soul Stone. This is a reset angle.
Yep, that's a reset.
There it goes. So they have one option, right? If a healer goes down, they can keep the pull going
by using the battle res on the healer, and then instead of mirrors using the soul stone, nice memes, taunts, and nether walks.
Which amunes the initial tank damage that would have otherwise killed him, but does not immune the dot.
He then requires a number of externals, an enormous amount of external healing to keep him alive through the dot, but he has survived
once out of three attempts he has survived that so it would also mean
that it's very likely that those missing defensives are going to pass later on yeah
it's not a particularly reliable strat like I was also tempted by this and I
know a lot of people in chat were as well you could save an entire extra battle
res by having nice memes taunt every time with netherwalk but his risk of
death is extraordinarily high if he gets a follow-up charge he's dead if he
doesn't get one external, he's dead. If the healers don't tunnel healing to him, he's dead.
It's very long. So it's very, very dangerous and not worth using as a go-to strategy. It
is worth using every now and then as a, okay, we have to do this to try to extend this pull
because a healer died. Anyone else dies? They're floor POV until the second battle
rest. And there's obviously no immunity that removes the Steve up and it pierces
through death as well.
Well, I don't know.
It doesn't appear through death.
Otherwise, the strat wouldn't work.
There's two damage components.
The upfront damage can be immune to the dot-connot.
So it's not the dot that can.
Otherwise, of course, we'd be using bubble taunts,
and other wall taunts,
and maybe even die by the sword taunts,
and things like that.
Have you tried spell reflecting?
The first thing Revan does in any fight
is spell reflect all the things.
the warrior scientist the gigachat dark simulacrum yeah just just the fuse
magic that got back onto the boss I mean there's been times when that kind of
thing has worked famously gohoon you could spell reflect the damage in the
last phase from those exploding testials I didn't know that wasn't discovered
Even until well after World First was done, none of the World First contending teams did
it because I don't think any of them were playing with a Prott Warrior.
But significantly later, another guild found that a Prott Warrior running around with Spell
Reflect could pop those Pushe shields and the damage would go on to Kahoon, killing
him really quickly in the last phase.
An unintended bug, I suppose, but one that none of the top guilds had found.
Ever since then, I think Rev is just wanders around with Spell Reflect up during Ray
testing to see what he can do. It makes sense. I mean there are some weird things that you
can spell reflect that I don't understand why. Nice little 30 second break timer going up.
Very good. Very short break. I think still working out some tweaks to their cool down
timings. I heard some discussions about even mine. We're playing with two augmentation
evokers interestingly. Several shifts to comp over the past you know several days of progress
on the boss with a couple of the evokers starting off as devastation but have now both been playing
augmentation all day and according to logs at least doing very very good damage to those
augmentation abilities even might contributing a huge amount of damage to the extent that
you trust those logs which is always you know difficult to say I'm not a wizard.
Very interesting the auger vokers also I mean this is something that surprised me personally
is that the agavokers are not actually...
It's gonna sound bad, but they're not dying a lot, like, first.
They're actually...
If you were to look at specs...
Yeah?
The agavokers are the livingest spec in the entire ring.
That is crazy, because agavokers, like, in the past, were definitely on the squishier side.
So, I'm not sure what they got now, what changed,
but they definitely seem to be tankier now, or somehow...
It could be!
So it could be, you know, Frago and Macyn death.
I mean, yeah.
It may not be Evoker death, it may just be Frago and Macyn being very, very consistent
players, which is to be fair, true.
So it could also be, you know, very good use of their personals, and the fact that they
are spamming that recipe shield on both themselves and another person in order to get through
the portal placements.
So there's a lot of work.
I think that part of it can be attributed to player death.
Yeah, it's interesting as well because usually the people that die the least often as like the first couple of deaths are just players with cheap deaths, right?
True, although on this fight, cheap death loses a lot of value.
Yeah.
It does still work once, but if the mechanic that causes you to cheap death wasn't Reaper, then Reaper says, haha, your cheap death means nothing to me, you're dead.
Yeah.
Right, so it loses, I don't know, maybe 50% of cheap death value is diminished by the existence of the Reaper mechanic.
If you get hit by an orb and it takes you to 5%, then you cheat death to the Reaper and you're fine.
But if the orb would have procced your cheat, then the Reaper kills you and that means it's just significantly less valuable.
We've seen Kush just get slammed in one or two seconds for exactly that reason.
And most abilities do just kind of kill you, I guess.
Yeah, most abilities are doing enough damage that if you're not above 90% when they hit you, you're going to go under 10% and die.
Yeah.
which is kind of wild, and requires an extraordinarily high degree of attention by the healers to exactly
and precise identification of the people who need single target and triage healing, right?
You can't afford to make sure that someone at 70% doesn't go to 60%.
If they get hit by something, they're dead no matter what, because you have to ensure
that the guy that's about to get hit by the charge on purpose is over 90%, otherwise
he dies and could have done nothing about it.
Which is why in many fights you can take a little bit of ancillary damage and still
If you take one orbit, it's okay, you go to 9%, you get healed, on this fight, you just die.
Because the healers can't keep everyone above 90%, they have to pick Intruders,
and they have to pick the five people who are getting hit through the unavoidable, guaranteed damage.
What is this, like, neutral, like, beetles, whatever it is that is walking around on the Genji screen?
Like, I've been looking at this this whole time. Oh, it's gone now.
Huh.
I don't think there was anything.
Good. You see this name plate?
You're seeing things.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a damn place.
Yeah, the, uh, stag beetle.
Yeah.
The five health.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
I see it.
I see it.
I don't know.
It doesn't seem to be on Genji's stream.
I think it's, I think it's a chain.
Just walked into the floor.
Oh, I'm sorry.
There's just this one.
There's just a lot of it.
Maybe, can we go to Genji's POV instead of Scrat's POV?
It may just be a weird relic of Scripe's overlay at some time.
I think it is, totally.
I think it's out in the world, and you see a health bar from the world, and Scripe being
outside.
Yeah, I think that's it.
I think there's a wandering Scripe being out in the middle of the night.
Yeah, I was like, there's no way.
That's true.
Like I said, you were imagining it.
It's not actually there.
All right, going into another poll here.
We're in phase one, so we have perfectly placed through the banana tech all of these
portals.
We get pulled into the middle by the suck and the ball is perfectly aimed, go around.
It took a long time to work out the exact positioning to ensure that worked well, but
they've got that one down pretty good.
Going into these first set of charges, we're going to go diagonally around the room, causing
two intersections where the boss picks up one sec, mirrors will go down, take the
Oncphotum, res, get a little heal, and then taunt.
It's perfectly timed to create maximum time for him to go up above 20% health
so that he doesn't instantly get clapped, and minimize the likelihood that the
boss turns around and hits clicks in the face we did lose one of the mages
here on one of those first mechanics so this possible there we just see a reset
and there it is I do think reset here's just going out for about 40 seconds into
the fight might as well start over so somebody has to explain this banana
thing to me I would love to explain banana to you we have a entire visual
in fact on the analyst desk perfect you want me to go pull it up yes please
All right, I think we have time
One of the Alice was like holding like this bowl of bananas and
He asked me so this is a banana meme like a thing with the casters to and I'm like
We do have a banana meme we just haven't told you about it
I see okay, so I'm out of the loop because I did see like a banana in the staircase of the hotel like lying there
And I was like, what is this banana doing?
That wasn't us.
So here is a raid plan of the banana gimmick,
the banana tech.
Banana is a code word for the private aura
that is these assassinations.
Five people get picked for assassination,
which is going to drop the void puddle around them.
You're supposed to take it to these corners of the room
here so that they are positioned correctly for the suck.
Everyone who gets that void zone assassination
has to push the macro to alert the weaker
that they have it because it's a privador that can't detect that debuff on its own.
They push the macro.
Banana is the call Roger says to mean push your macro.
He doesn't want to say push your macro so he says, you know, banana instead because
that saves one syllable and that's very valuable on progression.
So when they push that macro, they get a banana over the raid frame and each augmentation
evoker is assigned to grab one of them and put them in their position.
This does two things.
It enables them to stand there and cast. These are the augment the the invokers getting assigned
This is them putting in the sword they can then so so if canyx for example
Pushes the button he gets a banana an augmentation voker grabs him pulls him over there
He can just sit there and cast it doesn't have to stop casting to run second of all more importantly
The vokers are using the twin guardian talent which puts a two million shield on the person
Who's about to eat that gigantic assassination hit?
It absorbs about half of the hit, making them much more likely to survive the subsequent
dot damage from Queen's Bane.
This on average is doing around 50 million healing on a good pull.
That's the banana type.
And I guess in addition, the people that get the banana, they also don't have to think
about where to go, right?
They can just like, have a banana, I'm being carried.
Exactly.
Once you push banana, you get alerted.
You're being carried by Fraggo, or you're not being carried by anyone.
Of course, because there are five assassinates and only four evokers, one person has to people-wide
walk to their location on their own, the unlucky person.
Okay, so that still didn't explain why it's called banana.
And I think, I honestly think it's a meme, because yesterday or two days ago, as I walked in here into the kitchen,
there was almost like a bowl full of bananas, and there were so many bananas that it like spilled over.
There are a lot of bananas here.
There's bananas lying everywhere, so I feel like it comes from now on.
it's exclusively a meme right because Roger has come up with several code words in the past.
That is true. I remember that as well. You may have heard pineapple as well right?
I've had uh yeah I've read it with Roger Brown and he's come up with code words even all the way
back when I was reading with him. Exactly. This is not the first fruit-based code word that's
been used in this team. Something that everyone's used to. I remember in uh Vexiona I believe
the boss was or a dragon boss in Nailotha, I forget the exact name. Pineapple was code
because she did these breathing lanes where one lane would be safe. They had to either be
door side or far side or middle. When he got tired of saying far side, so he said that's
going to be pineapple from now on. Pineapple in every subsequent raid meant the side away
from the door. Yeah, that makes sense. I like it. Oh, they're actually not going again. Like,
I stopped looking at the. When one person dies, they usually don't reset
unless the healer does.
And I think that's fine, right?
They're going to be able to pick Xero up again after the second intermission
if he's the only one that dies
and potentially get another 3% pull in a lot of really good practice
in that intermission.
It's only if so many people go down
that you're significantly increasing the risk of everyone else dying
because they're going to be taking so many more events
with fewer people to spread them that it becomes a worth resetting.
I think that's the rationale.
That makes sense.
I guess they will be changing eventually.
the boss so so the deathmaster handled wrong oh the boss has three stacks now
and is doing 30% more damage for the entire fight starting before the
second intermission so this is this is excellent practice for the final
intermission oh but I don't see them living through it so do you think that
it would make sense for them to actually try and practice the three stack I
I would normally love that idea. In fact, I advocated for that a little bit on
Brute Twister saying that they should go into the worm section first and practice
their kicks. But here, because you require every single circumstance to come
in golden and get that perfect pull with all the stars aligned, I would hate
for it to waste that on just practicing the third admission and the
first admission by deliberately giving her three stacks. I would be sad.
Instead, since she's so short, why not just send it every time and practice it when you get there?
Maybe practicing it once just to see, but they got there already, so they know the damage, right?
The only thing that I could maybe think of is like, so people get a feeling of how much damage it does,
so they know, like for example, for a druid, do I have to go bare for him for this?
Which the answer is probably yes.
No matter what. But yeah, stuff like that I guess you could argue to test,
But yeah, they got there already so they know how much I'm gonna test. Yeah
I think they would have to test that. Yeah, canyx is getting a little bit of babysitting in order to live through this fight
Unfortunately, and he does very ethically go bare form anytime. He's about to get charged or something like that
Something interesting. I thought I would ask you since you are the resident druid expert
He is specked into heart of the wild and he's popping it in the third intermission to put a rejuvene regrowth on himself
Does he also get damage from that? Does it buff his damage when it's up? It does not
i think the main reason to play hard of the wild is that it also
gives you two stacks of frenzied regeneration
so when you go bare form you can press frenzied regen which is actually a huge heal
but it has a 30 second cooldown so
but with hard of the wild you have two stacks of it
two charges sorry, two charges and uh... you also just gain more hp in bare form
with hard of the wild up
If you push frenzied regen, if you go bare form, you push frenzied regen, you come out of bare form.
Do you still have the hut?
It cancels it.
Okay, because he's not sitting in bare form at all.
He's going into bare form just long enough to soak a hit from the charge, comes out at
80% health or whatever, and then immediately starts casting again.
And then in the last intermission, he pops out of the wild, puts up a rejuven, regrowth,
and then continues doing damage.
Obviously, DPS is very, very important in this fight, but there is speculation among
us before we figured out what they were doing with mirrors soaking two tankbusters
in a row in order to make it to the next on totem. We were wondering why swap a wind walker
for a druid. That doesn't make any sense, right? But the speculation was maybe he's supposed to
become some kind of hybrid healer with Heart of the Wild in the last case.
Yeah, unfortunately it's very, very weak.
Like everything else about Boomkin.
Yes, unfortunately. No, with the Heart of the Wild, I'm feeling
it is very weak and I doubt that that's the thing there have been times when it's really
good like yeah there have been times where it's good and honestly like it probably but
I don't think it's good for this type of fight either because this is not like a lot of like
small ticking damage it's more like a little heavy damage and then I guess those are
replaced so badly yeah that's a reset something went wrong with the banana
theory those those void zones were placed horrifically and their strategy is so
precise that if the place like that you're just gonna have deaths which is
exactly what happened I'm sorry I didn't have to do that. Sorry I was yeah I was
just saying that I think the heart of the wild residue moomkin off-healing is
mainly for just that consistent like smaller incoming damage I guess you have
like a bunch of rejuice you can throw out. But as soon as there's like heavy damage and
the only thing you really have is regrowth and it's not a big heal. So you wouldn't necessarily
be doing that much useful healing I think.
There was a, I think it was the prideful season back in Shadowland where boomkins were good
and Heart of the Wild was used to essentially carry late prideful healing. If you remember
the pride from all but get really high stacks and I remember the boomkin for
like very high keep pushing would go hard of the wild and do more healing
than you know your healer would. Not a thing anymore I guess. I mean the less
players there are the more effective hard of the wild is as well because the
only healing spells a boomkin can have is rejuve. Actually yeah rejuve, regrowth
and wild growth and obviously with five players it's gonna be a lot more
effective. They can't spend my whole raid with rejuves it's gonna take
forever. Rest of your advantage. Yeah, they somewhat do. But they aren't expected to also do 1.3 to 1.5 million
DPS on a boss that will kill you unless you do the absolute maximum. So it does make sense. And we did find out later
it had nothing to do with the boomkin. The boomkin is in because we need Mark of the Wild, which we can't get from the
Guardian Jura because he can't live through two tankbusters, which is why that's why the boom has to be the sense of it.
A lot of this comp is kind of by necessity. He could play Feral. Feral is in fact a bit tanky to the
came right because of the survival instincts like they have one additional defensive basically but then
you're making that other trade-off where now you have an additional melee which is very crowded
and a cause of a lot of deaths there have been several deaths to the regicides from the melee
you have a much more difficult what are you doing kush double checking if he's got the correct
balance am i pushing the right buttons can't change it in combat anyway but it's sometimes
it's good to know if something's not going off that you thought would be well we do have the
First charge is going off which means Miriz will be saying goodbye for the first time here goes down takes yonk gets top
Pants the boss and unfortunately we lose narco there
He's gonna be floor POV for the next two minutes
So while nearest is that who so it's was tanking nobody asked the tank because she's casting
That's the theory that these two deaths occurred exactly the correct moment where
No one is at risk of getting slapped as long as mirrors dies at the right time a couple of times earlier or the tweaking the timing
Clicks would get bombed because he's just doing that much more damage than anyone else
He instantly gets aggro if it you could potentially also do this by having a warrior do a dive by the sword taunt in order to protect
Everyone else while mirrors comes back up
But it hasn't been necessary which is good because everyone wants their personals for actual survivability during for example
the intermissions, right? Narko could bubble taunt in order to protect everyone from aggro but then he wouldn't have bubbled during the intermission and he is, to be quite frank, relying on it.
And it's helpful for everyone, it's part of the strategy. Narko can bubble and then stand still and no one has to dodge his regicides.
Yeah, interesting. Yeah, and also like they decided to reset the boss now with one episode of their death.
That was interesting.
So they are, I'm not sure if they're going to be changing this for the rest of the progression now.
Or is narco useful for something? Do they need narcos?
They need his blessing of sacrifice for narcos.
Oh, okay. Well then they've probably figured, okay, we can't do without the sack.
There are a couple of points when normally, so there's the initial hit of the tank buster,
that applies a vulnerability to the next one to which mirrors dies, but it also applies a dot,
which normally you tank swap with that so that one tank is taking autos and the other one is dotted.
Mears of course has the dot and the auto so there are a couple of points in the
fight where he takes extraordinarily heavy damage and occasionally not more than once
has just died to that damage not even normal tank clusters and uh so he is rotating through
external saliv and one of those is blessing of sacrifice. Oh a couple of those going right
through the middle but excellent dodging occurring this is going to be a little bit of a
weird charge the positioning is not right let's see if they can make this work the boss
is getting intercepted by two. Everyone has to play a little bit differently. They managed to get
that to work. That's good because those were not precisely positioned as they hoped.
And Mirus was supposed to go down there, right? That was the correct moment.
The first two deaths are exactly during the first rotational charges. That's the easiest way to
identify because she does her second void shredder, tankbuster attack, right after those
charges go off and that will kill him unless he does everything to stay alive as he does on
on the third round in phase three.
So it clicks the user's Ankh to get back up
and join their raids.
And now they can't have anyone else dying for 1 minute and 20.
So hopefully they can do that.
Yeah, you're right, 1 minute and 20.
Wasn't it 2 minutes and 20?
Oh wait, sorry.
They need a second battle rest to become available.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the conduct time.
Yeah, yeah, 4.30, yeah.
but this is going into our first intermission
with everyone alive and we can practice remaining so
as the regicide start going out
when we start rotating those personals.
The mirror is getting clipped and going down
means that this is going to be interesting.
They could, they are also going down, this is over.
If just one of those had occurred,
they could use the battle rays on them
and then try the nice moves, Ted.
With both of them going down, this is irrecoverable.
cannot three hill the fight and of course you can't zero take it so we're gonna be
for the reset. They literally read the mirrors for no other reason than to prevent
everyone else losing their buffs and their durability. Yeah. It's all they gained, nothing else.
But why not? You might as well. He's gonna run the boss over there. It's funny because now with the
food buff persisting through death, you actually don't need to even get a food buff. It's really just durability.
It's just...
It's rebuffing after any.
It's also faster to reset the boss than to res everyone.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, you know, a few seconds gained for some more wine time.
Yeah.
Because of the Echo Classic.
The wine time.
The wine time.
Because you're checking those talents again, just in case.
It's just making sure.
It's like...
Never know, like maybe there's something else that is there.
Well, it's good to experiment.
If he was opening it to look at it and think,
I wonder if I want to try it, then I would respect him more.
But to me, it's like, I forgot what I'd expect him to do.
Let me look.
Oh yeah, that's right.
It's a little bit different.
It's like he's forgotten to turn the oven off
before leaving the apartment instead of like,
actually trying to figure something out here.
All right, going into another poll,
looking for a replication of that magic 4% poll
that occurred a little while ago.
Banana is being called, being told
whether you're going to get carried or not.
There goes the first couple of evokers
carrying people out and the poor last mage is walking out there on their own.
Beautiful, the sand drill. The positioning on those portals.
Yes, these were much better.
This is in fact planned, right? They precisely place each portal and then each person who has a queensbane that will send out those balls goes at a very precise angle
to make sure no balls go through the middle. If that gets messed up, people can get clipped.
So we're going to get the charges here and mirrors as far as death.
He takes Yonk, gets topped a little bit, and taunted a little early and almost got reapered.
He's in a little bit of danger now.
Hopefully we can get him topped, looking a little bit better.
We're going into the second suck followed by the second charges.
The second charges are easier than the first in that you don't have to rotate them around by sending them to the marker.
You just send them right through the boss.
In that way she picks up the last couple of death masks.
It does require that you move all the way to the other side of the far clones.
so you don't get hit by both yours and the one on the opposite side.
So a little bit of extra movement sometimes, but the strategy works very, very well
to ensure that the DPS never have to change.
They don't have to worry that deathmats are not.
They always do the exact same thing every single time.
Going into the last suck before we go into the intermission,
we currently have one combat rise. We have everyone alive.
Yeah, this is looking very good, actually.
We do see Marius drop a little bit low there, almost into that river range,
but it's alright.
And now we do see that intermission coming through.
And you can see the melee range here, just how chaotic it is, but also, like we kept talking about how chaotic it is in melee, and we don't want to bring more melee in because of that.
But then at the same time, I do feel like the ranged players also don't have as much space as it looks like.
Because yes, there's more space in the back, but they can only use very little of the space because they have to stay within that line where the pizza slice is coming through.
Because if they stand in the middle of a pizza slice, they're not going to be making it out of it once it's being covered.
covered. So they also restricted in the space that they can use and it can be some really
bad overlaps with the lines as well. Absolutely true. They do have very small pizza slices
to dance back and forth with with their partners and they have to stay way back from the melee
which can sometimes put them in a less range of healers. But everyone coming out of that
first intermission alive makes this an excellent pull indeed going into the first set
of portals being placed. Now we have four death masks to dispel. Frago very low
gets into the spirit link which saves his life at the expense of everyone else's health. Luckily
that spouting spirit's operating to get everyone topped. Mirrors has to find an intersection
line here where two of the death masks will overlap, which he does successfully, and then die,
take the soul stone, rez, and take the boss back. Everyone's still alive as we go into the
subsequent 20% buffed round of daggers plus orbs. If these hit you, you die. Cush in fact
takes a dagger and goes down. Those are buffed by 20% and simply cannot be survived if you
you stand in the middle. In fact it looks like he went through his cheat death so he
may have taken a line and an orb. He's going to be a floor POV for the next one
minute and 15 seconds until the second battle res becomes available as we deal
with the second round of charges. Yeah, so unfortunately not going to be having
that push damage which means it's very unlikely that they're going to be
having enough damage. Kalevasi asks server also does go down but they're
going to be able to practice a little bit further if they manage to
survive and they're probably going to be continuing unless they think there's
point but I don't think there is of course being so far into the fight already as the suck is going
to happen in just a moment. I can't really reset now because she teleports into the middle for the
admission. So they kind of have to do their best and this gives them another opportunity to practice,
may as well. All healers are alive, everyone can send the exact same personals, all we're missing
is a warlock and a rogue which have no raid buffs anyway. So do your best to practice this and
live through it. Let's see if we can come through with everyone live. We see an ice block from
Wexy, everyone else rotating through their personals in order to try to make sure they
live through each application of regicide at the end of which every single person is about to get
hit by one at the same time and every single person needs to be above 50 percent. Hopeful is in danger
and he manages to get topped right beforehand. Successfully coming out with everyone alive from
the second admission and the first admission makes this an excellent practice pull. However,
with two people dead it will not be a kill and we'll see if they reset or decide to continue
practicing this last phase and go into the last admission and try it again. We do do battle
on Kush, so we are trusting that Mirz will execute the new
Ankh-Totem tech which requires him to live through this upcoming
second Tankbuster for at least five or six seconds.
He will go up to eight stacks before that Ankh-Totem goes down.
It'll come out at the same time as these upcoming charges
in about three seconds, so keep an eye on his stacks.
Charges get aimed around.
He can place the boss wherever he wants because all of them
are death masks.
coming up five six seven eight stacks the on totem should be coming out now and
he stands in a line to ensure he dies oh he didn't send a line so he died a
little bit late and instantly died again previously they'd fix up by having him
stand in the first dagger which gives him time to take a heal before taunting
the boss yeah I see this is very interesting yeah getting the practice
in is really nice well there's maybe forgot about the change in tack or
wasn't ready for it because like your first instinct as a player is of course to dodge the line
and you have to purposely walk into it which is this goes against everything you want to do as a player
so it definitely has to get used to that and maybe get needs to get a reminder also from
scribe or one of the other outside analysts could be that he is ready to walk into that line
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You've never seen my bean supplies before?
No, but I'm a little bit insulted you haven't introduced me.
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Of course it is very important that mirrors dies at extremely specific times in perfectly
chosen windows that enable him to click accept the on click accept the soul stone
get a little bit of health back before he taunts and minimize the likelihood that
the boss melee is anyone else because if he immediately taunts the boss when he
reses at 20% health and takes a single melee it can put him under 10% where he
gets reapered that's happened a couple of times and they're trying to be
careful of it so if he dies too late it can force that quicker taunt putting
his life at risk so he's really trying to make sure that he dies as
it's possible. Rumaster Monk is a very powerful tank that Blizzard has in fact
contrary to popular expectation designed not to die. So he has to go through a lot
of buffs in order to make it more likely that he can and he's gonna cancel
or all of those. Yeah, what's the loading screen? I don't know. Interesting. Some kind of quick
reload situation. Oh yeah, there we go. Just reloading. Yeah. 202 FPS. Yeah, that's
That's crazy.
That's pretty good.
That is pretty good.
I know Starforge PC is really showing what they can do at this rate.
The one thing that I always had with my PC, whenever there's a new rate coming out, it
always feels like it's getting worse.
Every rate, it felt like it's getting worse with the FPS, and it's incredible how amazingly
these Starforge PCs are holding up for some of these fights.
Root Twister, for example, the amount of ads that are there.
number of health bars, and the effects from 20 people AOE. Yeah, that's usually causing
loads of lag. Yeah. As the mind sooth goes up and the temporal anomalies go out, we know that a
pole is imminent. What is he throwing? I have no idea. He just gave, is that a trinket? He just
gave primary stat to a group of people over there. Yeah, that must have. Okay, so I think
I think there's a trinket that dusts this, but there's also like, I know there's like
always so many things and I should notice, but there's also like an effect that you
can use, like a buff, that I don't think is supposed to work in a raid, it can't be that,
unless it works in a raid anyway, who knows.
I'm going to make my way over to the analyst, that's captain, is he going to find out
what that is?
Yeah, it definitely should, like I'm interested to see it.
There's also like a potion I think that dusts this.
They throw?
I think so.
I don't know what this is, but we're going to find out. I'm sure chat knows. Maybe people shut up
They don't know we're heading into the first planned death mirrors takes the tokymic revival gets a little health taunts the boss back
Now the boss is sending out both the daggers and the viscera from the expiring debuffs taking hopeful down
This is either going to be a reset because he died in the first 40 seconds of the fight or
Continuing with hopeful as floor POV for the next couple of minutes. It is indeed the reset
We don't want to do this anytime someone dies. I think I think that's the rule they're using if you die in phase one
We'll reset a later death. We can continue trying to practice, but that early we may as well go which I think I agree with
At that early you've only wasted four seconds you may as well try again
Once you're too minutes in the fight it makes sense to finish out the last three why not 100% I agree. Yeah, I think
They're saying it's like an engineer potion, so it's a potion
I'm not sure if it's a separate thing or if it's just sharing the same cool that as a normal potion.
The reason why I know about this is because once people have figured it out, I think I saw a JB tweet
where he was upset that this exists because he viewed it from now on and he's going to have to use that potion
He doesn't like buffing his teammates?
What kind of support player is he?
Mira is happily buffing his teammates with 631 primary stat for 5 of his friends, and J.B.B should follow that exam?
Yeah, definitely.
How is the mana for the healers actually?
It is a little bit rough.
Yeah, so you have a couple of extraordinarily mana-hungry healers in this comp.
In fact, every single one of these healers back says a pretty good ability to turn mana into extra healing.
Shamans are extraordinarily mana-hungry in this expansion with their chain heal build and high tide build.
Evokers also can oom very effectively if they want to, so mana is a little bit tight, even though we are using symbol of hope.
And that's both gaining mana and giving everyone their defenses back.
Meera's is still dead, which means that we're using a battle res
He did in fact on and then get clapped immediately thereafter if they keep this pull going which it looks like everyone's running late
We're not ah one of these times. We're gonna get to see the nice beams tech, which is pretty fun
Yeah, I'm excited to see it. It's it's so scary for him
But it's fun for us
We get to watch we get to watch a demon hunter tank for a little bit pop nether walk
Take a huge dot get tunneled with healing and then at the end of it
Well, about 50% of the time died, anyway.
There it is.
There it is.
Thank you, production.
Potion Bomb of Power.
Throw a potion bomb, splashing five allies with 631.6 primary stat for 30 seconds.
Now I take it that this substitutes for your own potion usage.
I would assume it does, yeah.
So he's giving up his own chance to have you use a potion in order to buff his DPS
friends, which is a very good trade.
you were asking if the healers were suffering with mana trouble plurimably because they could also do that.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
Although I guess you would need to stagger them in that case because I don't think it would stack.
I doubt they would stack, yeah. And then it's probably not worth it anymore because if your cooldowns are not up then...
Then why bother getting an extra 600 per hit?
Yeah.
Yeah. You could use, I guess, you could use two people, right?
We have the DPS going into two separate groups so that they get buffed by the two separate augmentation evokers.
So you could throw one potion on one group and then another potion on another group.
If of course you had two tanks, which this fight does not allow.
Or if you had a healer that didn't need a mana potion I guess.
But I guess the healers probably do need that mana potion.
Last time I looked every single healer was zooming it around the 5, 30 to 6 minute mark.
They're burning through the mana so fast because you can't afford to
you know, weight and heal people the most efficiently possible. They need top right now.
True. So he can be very effective with your mana.
Yeah, and they're being as effective as they can. Almost every healing moment in this fight at
this point is extraordinarily scripted with the engulfs, the cloudbursts, the, you know,
the high tide buff chainheels, and the halos from Ryzen all coming out at very planned moments.
But you don't know which of the five people are going to be getting to Queen's Bane,
requiring single target heal to be tunneled into them. And you might have to send
chain heals and flash heals and heals into those people burning a significant
amount of your mana so they're burning through it very quickly as you would
expect when you're seeing all of the healers do in that 1.5 to 2 million
hps range for the entire six minutes of the fight. Wait did they just now make the
call to switch to rank 3? I think they are. They have to have been using rank 2 consumables until now.
I don't think so.
Because he just removed it from his bars and put the rank 3 ones in.
Technically, it is possible that...
It's possible that they've been using ring 2, but that would just be a gold saving.
It would seem very strange to have done that so late into progression when you were using it 4%.
It is incredibly expensive.
Gold is meant to be spent.
That is true.
Yeah.
Production filling is, can't spend the gold if you don't have the gold,
but we can spend other people's gold if they lend it to us.
I don't miss the guild taxes.
You know how the healers could get some more mana?
How's that?
By bringing more boomkins.
Or any other druid.
Because boomkins used to be the only ones fighting in there,
but thankfully Blizzard freed us from the yoke of that tyranny.
Alex said the same thing earlier.
He was like, maybe we swap from the Guardian to the boomkin for innervate.
But Robin was innervating too.
Boomkins out.
it is a little bit unfortunate to get to innervate for some specs in fact the
Detroit classroom is a little bit interesting yeah yeah I mean innervates
a very good button but it's not a good enough button to make up for all the
reasons you don't bring that is very he always must be very
He's letting you bully you like this.
It's true.
To be fair, in a plus Druid it's actually...
I'm okay in particular, it's doing really well.
Not much wise now.
We're still squishy, and that's everything.
To be completely fair, if we were being fair to Kenix, after going through...
He's had an epic journey, right?
Going through Heroic Week, he was endlessly memed as useless.
DPS Druids are never going to be played.
He gets benched for all four of the first bosses, then gets told,
Okay, we do need you but it's actually actually as a guardian druid come in and tank brew twister does that for an entire day
It's told yeah, we know that you spent all your valor stones upgrading guardian gear
But it turns out we do want you as boomkin after all
Get second overall on the damage meter and brew twister as a boomkin number two
Gets told okay now. That's it. You're never coming in again. Never mind
We do want you for this single target boss, and he's doing respectable damage, right?
Not as much as the Windwalker was doing but not as far off as we thought.
Yeah, no. I mean he's doing incredible. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes having to play a squishy class on a boss like this.
It seems incredibly scary. And especially when you know that this is such a type damage check,
every time you press that bear form it probably feels very bad.
like you just know one of the worst things about bear form is when like when
you're going into like the end rage phase and you know like the boss is some like
really low percentage and you need to do damage but you also take a lot of damage
so it's like you're choosing between living or
what's the purpose of living if you're just in bear form not doing damage
right that sounded like an extraordinarily deep kind of life
conversation. What is the purpose of living if I'm always in bear form? I mean, that is the problem,
the existential crisis of boomkins right now. We're going into the first intermission and we're
going to have to see if canyx can survive. I'd love to go to canyx's POV for this to see how
much juggling of personals we are doing. He is out with his partner far from the center, getting
to very low health already needs to pop something. Okay, he's okay now. He's taking another
another clip, dancing back and forth through these sizes. Low again, he rejuves himself,
which I can't blame him, I'd be scared too, but he is staying out of bare form doing the
very best he can, as everyone now, he goes into bare form for that final re-decide, which
was a good play. He went quite low in health. And everyone coming out of the intermission
alive with our combat res in hand to res Mirrors on the second tankbuster of this
phase, which in theory, Kara, should be exactly like the first phase, no reason
why we couldn't just rinse and repeat.
exactly and if Mini is going to join this raid on his Enhancing Shaman and just one shot
his boss here, then I'd be really happy.
I would also be really happy.
We have brought in that second Enhanced Shaman now.
We benched a warrior.
We have benched a warrior.
So this has gone through quite the journey.
We've gone from a second rogue, which didn't do anything other than damage, to a second
warrior which does damage and rallying cry.
Now we have dropped the warrior to bring in the second shaman because Clix has been consistently
dominating the damage meter and Mini doing a pretty good job here as well.
And Mini of course having played Frost Decay on the Boot Twister, now playing it in Hansen
Shaman, of course multi-talented like most of the raiders are.
Well this has been the wildest tier in terms of every single player playing multiple classes
and specs and even roles.
We've had healers DPSing tanks DPSing, you know DPS tanking DPS healing everyone has to do everything
here as we have successfully made it past mirrors is planned death used our battle res another one coming up in approximately
One minute, but thus far no deaths that weren't planned until right before I said that technically technically before I said that
Hope will die he's gonna be floor POV for 50 seconds as we head into the final suck and then the second intermission
We need to repeat what happened last time and everyone stay alive through it
Yeah, but certainly because mini is here now
It's okay to have a damage dealer that for a minute or so, right?
Like that's totally fine. He's gonna make up that damage that hopefully would have done
You can't even keep the meme going you're supposed to be insistent. It's true. I said it's not
Ryzen popping the fade, survival of the fittest on soul, Ice Block on Wexi, everyone rotating
through those personals to maintain their health. We do unfortunately lose Zeruo as the PI goes out
on soul who's been doing incredible damage to this tier, also topping damage along with those
Eshamans. So we lose one DPS, Wexi needs topping. Coming out of their mission we have two dead,
which means one will be dead for the remainder of the fight and one will be battle-resed
in approximately four seconds. Assuming they're going for the kill, instead of the safety
play on mirrors because mirrors is going to die again this phase as planned on the second tank
buster but this time must live to eight stacks of the debuff you currently see it on his ray frames
as four stacks which is very difficult to do they do use the battle risk and mirrors goes down that
is the end of this pull all right yeah mirrors going down there too early of course he needs to
survive for quite a lot longer a lot longer that's it was completely unplanned out of nowhere
Yeah, so they're gonna have to go again try again, but then I was like a try with the mini in and
Me need surviving as well. So many playing perfectly for this try
Of course, it's gonna be able to do that to maximize his damage a little bit
Yeah, cuz she's not coming and like immediately played perfectly, right?
How can you say that about our boy mini second on the damage meter? You don't think he's playing perfectly
He did do it considering that this first try he's done incredibly well.
Yeah, and Kudos to him, but of course we've seen several other players get rotated in and out of this boss.
Narko wasn't in for the first 100 pulls. Two different rogues have swapped in and out.
We've had Canucks come in today for the first time, so many, many players coming in.
We've seen repeatedly that they have a fairly high error rate,
while they learned this extraordinarily difficult fight.
But it must feel rewarding to the players who have gone to this final iteration of their comp
to see Mini come in and do blasting damage.
However, that does mean that they have lost
one of those rallying cries that was keeping them safe
from the intermissions.
And so they've traded a little bit of safety
for a little bit more damage.
Probably a good trade when you're looking
at your very best pull ever,
having had the boss 190 million health shy of dying.
So, and the enhancement damage on this fight
is absolutely wild.
Mini coming in on its very first pull
and doing that much DPS more than any of the other classes.
Let's get some of those mages out and some more in hand, Shaman-Zan.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, like, just get some of these ranged out.
Ranged out?
But then where do the melee stand?
Where do they go?
Unfortunately, not enough space in melee.
They could just increase the hitbox of Kvesa, so the melee can stand, like, super far away.
Yeah, just let the melee be ranged and not have to worry about anything ever.
They already don't get half the mechanics in this fight.
Why should they have to do anything?
Good point.
of course loss of a mage would also be a marginal loss of safety because they are
bringing utility in the form of mass barrier which is such a huge ability for
a certain amount of good very likely gonna use especially like for that last
what is ability called with this with the line indian commission the
the Rijessides. Oh, Rijessides. Rijessides. Rijesside is a Latin for king killer. Oh, yes. Yeah, that makes sense. Does it? I mean, I think it means royalty killer, and I think it's supposed to be that they're killing Queen Ensurek. Right? Rijesside.
I thought the role of Nexus Princess Kaiveza was to assassinate Queen Ancerek.
Chat?
Are we right?
I mean it would make sense, right, because then Regicide, which is a monarch slaying title.
But then wouldn't she be our friend then?
Why are we killing her if she's assassinating Queen Ancerek?
Because she has loot.
We don't want the loot.
She drops epic.
Wow, I see.
Second pull for Mini. Let's see if he continues his phenomenal performance. Nice beams.
Blasting on the pull as always at Demon Hunter Burst is extraordinarily good.
Mires will be taking his first death here. Very difficult, precise timing.
He needs to not die right after rising, which the Reaper mechanic...
It makes very, very difficult. Anyone who doesn't know the Reaper mechanic on this fight,
if you go under 10% health, you get marked for the Reaper
and take a 10 million hit executing you and we've had about three times now when
Mears comes out of the res, taunts slightly too early, isn't taught quite
quickly enough by the healers and gets instantly one tapped again. But he does it
perfectly that time and we're heading into the middle charges now. Everyone
needs to avoid getting hit by any charge that isn't planned and then the
Queen's Banes targets go out and aim their balls away from everyone else's
face. This intersection of lines, daggers plus balls is going to be
hitting for 10% additional damage as the buff boss is buffed by those death masks.
For everyone getting through it just fine, we're going to be heading into the final suck,
which does raid damage.
And then ideally topping every single person 100% before they spread out with a stampeding
roar for that very first intermission.
We see the symbol of hope coming out as well.
Resetting the cooldown, if everyone's personal cooldown so they can use it during
this intermission.
Yeah, let's take a look if everyone manages to survive here, keep in mind every time
and that royalty killer assassination diva is selling you, you need to be really high
on HP otherwise you're going to be dropping a little 10% and of course get executed by
a reaper and his fight but we do see a narco death which if we need narco for that sacrifice
that would mean that we have to use the Belarus here which would cause me issues
later on.
Right, so we have to see what they choose to do, they could choose to try to keep
Mears alive without that blessing of sacrifice looks like that's what we're doing
We're going to continue with narco on the floor
He'll be on the floor for the next two and a half minutes because even though a battle res is available
It is allocated to mirrors mirrors had a soul stone placed on him after his first planned death
You don't want to have to wait for a casted res
You have to take that res at an extraordinarily precise timing in order to live yourself and prevent the boss from mail
someone else so he has a soul stone on him that better as is for his use only
the only exception to be if a healer died and if a healer died they would deal with it
but we're going out here to get two of the deathmats dispelled by charging to
the boss void shredders to the face taking the soul stone popping his health
back up and taunting the boss the boss is now buffed by 20% as these
lines and balls go out making it very crucial that you dodge them
unfortunately cannex taking a line or a ball to the face and going down we
have 2 DPS dead making it that much more likely that they're going to try to reset.
Yeah, it does look like Marius is heading towards the door and transcending out to his clone.
He doesn't have to transcend. Well, he doesn't actually have to transcend.
No, it turns out that the Nexus Princess Kaiveza, despite being a fearsome assassin
and murderer of monarchs, is frightened of the stairs.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, so if you take her on the stairs, she leaves.
The stairs are pretty scary.
It's true, I never used them.
Why would you use them when there's an elevator?
Some people say exercise is good, I don't know.
Well we should talk to Gaines for Gamers about our finality.
Do you think Jinji is frying in the stairs?
Jinji is still on his leaving bananas in the stairs.
I think that's why, yeah. How dare you.
We have some people offline, likely indicating a mass re-log,
potentially some lag issues or some kind of weak aura being corrected, half of the
people at the venue in fact are re-logging right now. It typically indicates some group
wide issue like that. They have had some issues with frame rate earlier today.
There was apparently some issue whereby other people in the guild, not
playing in the raid, sending currency across your account to someone else
in your warband would cause framerate spikes in rape so a mass warning went
out to the guild stop transferring currency and someone confirming this
theory someone said oh I didn't know it's it is so funny how like some of these
bucks like especially how you figure it out even understand that this is what
cost in the black like well we have grim yeah okay i mean that mastermind in the shadows figured these
things out i like how i just now realized because we have a like an algath of prompter here that the
production is feeding us information i already said that usually they have the information really
big that we can read it from here because the prompter screen is a little bit small from here
but uh now we have this like super tiny text explaining the read decide would you like me to
read it. Regicide is the purposeful killing of a monarch or sovereign of a polity, often
associated with the use or passion of power. A regicide can also be the person responsible
for the killing. The word comes from the Latin roots of Regis and sida, meaning monarch killer.
Which is what I told you. I said king killer.
Regis, that's what I said. That makes sense. That's kind of what I knew.
Yeah, also the route to Regal.
Your Latin lesson for the day, chat.
I don't think you had that on your boomkin, or your bingo card.
Your boomkin card.
We should have a boomkin card.
We should have a boomkin card. It'd be much more useful than boomkins and right.
That's just about you.
I didn't have one year of Latin. I liked it a lot.
Did you?
Yeah, I'm a big fan of Latin. I think it's a very interesting language.
In a way, I did three years of Latin, not to brag.
What does that mean in a way?
Law school.
Why is it just in a way?
Well, because we're not actually studying Latin.
It's just that the law is stuck in the, you know, 2,000 years ago and therefore uses
Latin for no good reason other than to look smart.
Yeah.
That's actually true.
Yeah.
Yeah, I believe you.
100%.
There we go.
We do have another poll coming in.
Those two groups already split as the poll is happening, where the bombs are being
thrown the power bombs from the tanks as well I don't think the healers are
willing to give up their map. We can't check maybe. It would be worth checking and after this call I will.
Yeah and it would have to be something that like that will only happen at the
very end once you wipe it like 0.7% Is there any argument for the
augmentation of others doing it? Is there a potion that they get more damage from
than their friends would gain from 600 primary stat? Well themselves gaining
primary set right? Does their primary set do anything for even weight? If they have more
primary set then they're buffed for more right? I don't actually know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is not how it works.
Is it based on their primary? Okay, fair enough. It's based on their set Sam. Fair enough, fair enough.
So I guess they should do that instead. We do have Mirrors taking his first plan death,
everything going according to plan thus far. We're dealing with the second suck,
getting pulled into the middle, which does damage. There's an enormous amount of damage in
this fight, much of it designed for no other reason than to make you vulnerable to an incoming
one shot.
Anytime there are clones up, they are ticking the entire time, every single one of them,
for an enormous amount of shadow damage every two seconds to the raid.
And then when the boss does the suck, another giant pile of constant incoming ticking damage
every two seconds gets added on top of that, which is just enough to place you under
that 90% health threshold such that if you get hit by something else you are
going to die, requiring the healers to constantly triage who is going to get
hit by something unavoidably because they are soaking a charge or have a
queen's bane and leaving everyone else to their own devices to avoid all of the
avoidable damages. Why this fight is so extraordinarily punishing as we go into the
first intermission everyone is at full health spreading out with his
Rindrush totem in order to decrease the likelihood of overlapping these
regicide blaze lines. We do unfortunately lose Rison. He is in his angel form
spamming healing which means he is going to need a battle res coming out
of this and we will have to see nice memes tech unless we reset the boss instead thus far everyone
else living we're going to get that final round of everyone getting hit the entire raid needing to
be topped zazzy goes down he has the onk if they choose to commit it but it looks like they're
going to go for the reset instead man i want to see the nice meme tech yeah nice meme tech nice meme tech
we've seen it twice i want to see it some more but i mean in those two the times we've seen
it twice we're not pretty they were they were you know unfortunately resulting in
the own demise typically. BOOMKIN CAR! Let's go! I love BOOMKIN DINGO! That's very
good thank you Mitch. Well as we head into another poll we are looking for a
repeat of that 4% poll that occurred around an hour ago at this juncture.
Um, would it be possible, Mitch, to...
Can we listen into comms for a little while?
Yeah, let's send it to comms, listen with Wave,
and the girl and I will take a little bit of a break
so that we are refreshed and energized
for what will surely be a kill coming any moment now.
In fact, with no casters cursing it, it could happen, right?
Yeah.
Now.
Yes. Staying alive, the new tech, we have the...
200.
Plan A, light blue.
Plan B, dark blue.
What?
Yeah.
Nice.
Where the fuck are you going?
Mike didn't get it
Let's fucking go
And you can see me click on my defter
And we just want to see from where it came
It'll be from behind but I'm gonna hide in the center
I have two potions on the drain
Also the fifth positions
With the...
Respecting this
World market charge is coming
Fifth positions
GMP
I'm not kidding
I think we can best come in
I'm not sure
I'm not sure
But I don't have to...
No, I don't have to give it
Something's bugged with my cooldowns
Or like with my...
I don't get the CDR, prep, but...
Sometimes
I need health stones, then
Anyone know why?
Nothing's bugged with your cooldowns
Just fucking...
Once again, 15 seconds
prep, but...
Sometimes it just doesn't give me
Hold on, that's G88, it's your spawns. Charging soon, missions on watching feet, as that is.
That and no battle rest available, but we're still going to be able to potentially see that last intermission with that Enraged as well.
That would be very good. If they can reach that point one more time, and we do have those five masked images now spawning.
Another death here on Mirage, but this is the purposeful death with the Titanic arrival going through.
Do you have another deck with Mini?
Yeah, Mini goes down, Mira's getting that timing down exactly correct in order to die at the right time.
Delayed enough to get the Potomac Revival, he has to go through eight stacks of the debuff,
which is very, very difficult to do, and then quickly die in order to get that revival
in time to position that last void zone. The boss now at five.
Does that count me, right? Five stacks? Yeah, that's five boss stacks.
So something went horribly wrong the boss is doing. Oh, oh they missed they missed the charge before his death. Oh
That so they didn't get to dispelled on the first charge all five dispelled as she went to the middle
The boss is doing 50% more damage for the rest of the fight, which is ending this
extraordinarily quickly
Yes, the way the mythic mechanic works in case some of you have been tuning in late
They missed those explanations that we had numerous times
That's such an optimistic alter time.
I'm just going to take eight of these at once and then alter time back to full.
I'm sorry, you were explaining the death mask.
Yeah, so the death mask, the way to work is that on heroic and on normal difficulty,
you get the images that you place that then turn into portals and they suck you in
and then you get targeted by them and they charge through you.
But on Mythic, not every time, but you get 3 of the images that actually do have a mask on them.
And the only way to remove the mask is by having the charge of that image go through the boss.
So Kulesa basically takes away the mask but gains a stack or a debuff increasing for damage done.
If this stack goes up to 3, then she keeps it permanently, or higher than 3 like we just saw.
And if you have any masks left when the dimension starts, then she will get the five stack, right?
So that is what happened just now.
So what you want to do is you want to make sure that you get rid of two masks first, or
one mask first and then two in the first phase.
But then in the second phase, you have four masks.
So you have to do two and two, but you still don't get the permanent dimension increase
in her.
But then in the last phase, you get all five images that have a mask, and then
you inevitably have to get a 3 stack on that last charge because you only get 2 charges per face
so you get that 3 stack, which means that she does get that damage increase for that last intermission
yeah, so we do see Jesse eating a banana
which is very fitting to our banana strategy that we are employing on this boss
you are absolutely correct in that explanation
In fact, in some ways, phase 3 is easier than phase 1 and 2 in terms of the death masks.
Because in phase 1, you need to ensure that the boss gets hit by at least one death mask
on the first intersection, so you have to find one where it's cross crossing.
If you go somewhere where no one is crossing, which is possible, then all three will go
into the boss on the second charge.
Similarly in phase 2.
Is it possible that they can do it?
Yes.
Oh yeah, it is.
It is.
on phase two you need to ensure that two are intersecting where you take the boss. If you
go where only one is intersecting then three will go in on the second charge. In phase three
assuming that you take the boss correctly to any intersection because all five of the
clones are death masks you are guaranteed to get two and only two bit. What happened
there was there was some fumble and I don't know if you have a replay of it I might
be good to see from your interview. There was some kind of fumble whereby the boss
didn't get two of the intersection points or someone misaimed it and didn't aim
correctly to create those intersection points and none of the death masks went
first on the first charge which meant that all five did on the second.
Yep.
So that was...
Yeah, I mean...
This production is giving us some very specific instructions right now.
Wait, what did you hear from production?
I didn't...
Oh.
We have our mic switched, apparently.
We have confused.
And production was trying to tell me something.
But it told it to her.
What did he tell you?
I need to hear this.
Well, he's gonna...
No, he's telling it to me again.
Oh, okay, okay.
Thank you, Mitch.
Shall we trade?
Do we?
Wait a minute.
The culprit that took the shirts, the merch that were here.
Oh yeah, somebody stole some of the shirts that we were using to show off our merch.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So, when I sat down and I picked up my headset, okay, this is weird, okay.
First of all, you were here the whole time.
You didn't go anywhere for the break.
That's true.
So how did you get your headset over here and take my...
Well, I did take off my headset on break, but I only put it onto my neck, actually,
now that I think about it.
So how did it end up on my head?
Did you move to my chair?
No, I did not sit over there.
No, that's a lie.
Mitch said I was sitting over there.
I was not sitting there.
Okay, but listen, listen.
You didn't go anywhere.
I didn't.
I did.
And when I got here, it was like this.
Oh.
I was like, that's not the side it goes on.
Yeah, but I put my head there.
I was like, why is the candle here?
This is so weird.
True.
Yeah, this is a mystery.
We're going to go to the Vaude to find out how these headsets were swapped.
I thought the weirdest thing that I was going to do on the set was eat a banana.
Which you didn't even react to.
I snuck a banana in here so that I could pull one out whenever you started talking
just start eating it because I thought it would you know I just thought you don't
like you're eating but I think I think oh it's like yeah why not I mean bananas
are nice bananas are good and you have banana memes going on so let us all eat
a banana once in a while and they didn't awkwardly stare into the camera while
eating it which is what I do all the time so okay we can't play no ball
apparently what Kara did to mix up the headsets and you'll never know what
it I probably I will also never know what I did
I don't remember moving at all I thought I was just sitting here the whole time I
had to not go I don't know. Well we're currently wearing the wrong headset so Mitch tried to
give me instructions about something. Anyway I did quickly want to talk about
the merch today in the morning today morning I wanted to put on the
spider rules hoodie which something I have because I have this one it's
And I have this one in XL, the one that I'm wearing, I wear it as a hoodie dress.
And I also wanted to get the Spider Wools one in a bigger, I think I got it in Aldo,
not in XL, as a hoodie dress.
And it works beautifully.
So in case anyone wants to wear this Spider Wools hoodie as a hoodie dress, you can get
it in XL and it works really well.
Unless you're my size.
And then it just kind of fits like a normal hoodie dress.
This is in fact XL.
It's a little bit.
It's a little bit.
It's a little bit.
Yeah, it's because you're so muscular though.
That's true.
Those are some huge arms.
Thank you.
Yeah, what did you say?
Colony.
Geeze.
Yeah.
It's what's killing the sleeves.
Going into another pool.
Check out the merch store. There's some phenomenal merch in there. I also have the spider rules
t-shirt and the spider rules hoodie. I also have the XKL.
Why did you take the spider rules one and not the craps? Because you actually like spiders
more? Because you thought the spider was cuter.
I think the spider is cuter.
Yeah, I was also...
The crab I didn't think I...
I like the colors more.
That's true.
The purple gray is a really nice thing.
I think the spider is cuter. I think that the colors are nicer on the shirt.
I just like a little bit of the crab.
If it were a real spider and crab, I would take the crab and I could get needed.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, eating spiders is probably not that delicious.
Maybe it is delicious, but there's just not that much to eat from, right?
I guess we had enough spiders or enough spiders.
Maybe we should give that a try.
No.
Do not give production ideas.
This is going to be on the next Cherry Goals.
I'm not eating both.
You know Julia, our chef is from Australia,
and we know that Australia is known to have a lot of huge spiders,
so she could make this happen.
I'm gonna I'm gonna quit. I'm not I'm not
There are some countries that eat spiders in a snack, yeah. You cannot make me do this
I will never come back
You know what I'm actually terrified of spiders? Oh really? Like actually terrified? Like my actual like greatest fear. Really?
Terrified. Oh well that's to this extent right I was I was I was with my wife in the house
And there was a spider the size of my hand. I was taking my contact
I see something on the corner of my eye and there's a spider that size my hand on a towel
But like a three in the morning one of these like as the man of the house or like an actual spider spider
So as the man of the house, I calmly went to the bedroom
What Katrina up?
I was very proud that I didn't do it screaming the whole way
I got over my fear of spiders
At some point because there was a spider so my part like my mom owns like a small cafe
and our house was like in like the same like the cafe was in the same building as
our house basically so I found the spider in my room and I started being there
I would not interrupt you except that they had just read the healer which means
that we're about the nice means back okay okay sorry the spider stirrer has
to wait it has to wait nice mean POV because we haven't reset the boss which
means that in order to survive the upcoming tankbuster nice means has
to taunt and netherwalk it so let's see if they do it it's gonna be coming out at
the same time as the charges after which redder and five yeah which redder and five
three and we reset nice use is all ready to all right so production has told us
that fried spider is a regional snack in Cambodia in the Cambodian town of
of Skuan, Qingprey, Kampong Cham,
the vending of fried spiders as a specialty snack,
is a popular attraction for tourists.
So I have eaten fried, what is this insect called
that like jumps highly?
Grasshoppers.
Yeah, I've eaten fried grasshoppers before
because that's like a thing.
Yeah, I've heard of people eating crickets,
grasshoppers and locusts.
Yeah, and I tried it and it's,
like initially like it's like disgusting, right?
I think it looked disgusting. Yeah, yeah, and it's like crunchy when you bite it because it's a means right
And it doesn't taste like
Anything really it's like kind of it's like
So I had a similar experience recently in Germany
Yeah, but you said that actually did taste good, right exactly. I tried the met
Met, which I guess means meat
It does not what does met me that is just that
So I tried MET, which was ground raw pork, and I've never had that before.
And the idea of eating raw meat to someone who grew up in rural Missouri is disgusting.
So I was looking at it and I saw other people eating it and I was like, okay, I can't not
do it if Alex is right.
I can't, you know, Alex is literally chowing down on the right in front of me.
So I took a bite and I had this crazy like mental disparity going on.
I had this insane like cognitive dissonance because my mouth was like, that tastes pretty
good.
body screamed, vomit now, this is horrible, you can't possibly eat another bite, this is going to kill
you like this revulsion from the core of my stomach coming out at the same time that it actually tasted
quite nice. Was that the grasshoppers? It was similar with the grasshoppers as well. It definitely is
a mental block when you eat something that like it's just looking at it like kind of disgusts you
right and you know that it might still taste good but it's very hard to like turn that part
of your brain off? Yeah, I experience it every time I look at a boomkin. It really just disgusts me
to see them moving. But I do imagine they'd probably taste good once fried, right? I turned into
chicken wings, different blue cheese. I went to a restaurant once and they um for like at first
like an appetizer they brought different kinds of like meats that was prepared and like like small
little appetizers and then he came through and it looked good and then he like pointed at all of
them individually and said what it was and all of it was like different kinds of like um like it was
heart of a deer it was uh like liver kidneys organy stuff what it's like brains or whatever and
like I told him after like I wish he wouldn't have told me this because it was delicious
like I ate it but I still had to think of this in the back of my head like this is like hard and
this is brain that's like have you never had that kind of thing before I did have like liver and
stuff before but I did not have brain before so I've never had brain but I've had pretty much
every other type of organ you just because like if you live in a hunting culture which yeah
I do as well.
Do you know like Osubuku, what is it called?
Like there's Osubuku.
It's what's inside a bone.
Mero.
Yeah, it's bone marrow.
Yeah, OK.
Yeah.
And it's apparently very delicious.
But there's something about it that disgusts me more
than like brain or whatever.
Like it's just the fact that it's
Is it a texture like it's kind of?
No, just like you get it with the bone.
Like it gets served with the bone.
But with the idea of scooping something out of the bone.
Yeah, it's just like maybe if it wasn't a playtime I would eat it, but like the fact that it comes with the bones like
That's kind of cool. I've had I've had bone marrow out of it. Oh, okay
In Missouri would don't call it osuboku
We just call it marrow
I'm not sure if it's like some special way of making it. Yeah, it might be
Or, I don't know.
But yeah, if you go back and slaughter one of the cows or pigs,
crack the bones open, roast them, you have the marrow.
It's very nutritious.
I mean, I can imagine, you know.
Back to my spider story.
Yes.
Which we interrupted for the nice memes play that didn't
actually happen thanks so much.
So I saw a spider in my room.
I was a lot younger, of course.
Two years ago.
No, I still used to know.
No, I still used to know.
This is actually like two years ago.
So I saw the spider and I like I go out into the cafe where my mom was in with like customers
And I go mom, I want to do some spider and she's like, oh no, no
She called the police and I was
I was so embarrassed because everyone's laughing obviously and I was so embarrassed
Uh, but from now from then on out, I would handle the spiders myself and I got over it
I would have just said yes
Thanks mom. Yeah
Teaching you to be a strong independent person. That was so hate that inconsiderate of her
All right, we're gonna look at mirrors his first death here
He doesn't need to get one of these death masks the spelled which he does we had to wipe a little while ago
That was a little bit of a late death
But they get it. Okay. It's fine. It's fine
He wanted to be dead a little bit before then but he did get the taunt off and self went up
They had to wipe a little bit ago, not getting one of those death masks that spelt, so it's
good that that's going back according to plan.
The Echo strategy for dealing with those death masks is a little bit different than what we'd
seen coming out before when Liquid is pulling it, because no player ever has to worry
about aiming their death mask through the boss or whether they're supposed to.
The players always aim their clones exactly the same every single time.
The first charge of the phase gets aimed around them world markers, which creates
points where two clones intersect in their path and then the second one gets aimed through the
boss and by doing that they can always get rid of two clones on the first charge and the remainder
of the clones on the second charge so it's a very very nice replicable strap yep it definitely is
very consistent as well so you don't never have to bother about that one we do see of course Mini
joined us a couple of pulls ago replacing one of the warriors and both Mini and Klicks topping
the damage means Mini actually never won that so Mini did get some tries in getting used to the
Unfortunately server desk goes down. We don't have a battle rest available for him
I mean we do but that one is reserved for
Mirrors only mirrors can use the battle rises in this fight everyone else has to play perfectly tanks are allowed to die
But no one else can't I did take a look at the logs and notice that
Unfortunately Robin was dying first in something like 90% of the polls really kind of a terrible performance for
Previously you can be a championship tank understandable. I don't think that is yeah, but then he has the same death rate
Something going on with Echo's tanks. Zero is going to be floor POV for almost
exactly two more minutes at which point the second battle res becomes
available. That is the single battle res available for non-mirrors, people in the
raid, non-privileged people in the raid, because mirrors is sacrificing
themselves each phase. Each phase has three void shredders which apply a
debuff making you die to the next void shredder, except the third one
can expire, we're going to reset now, the third one can expire during the
intermission. So he dies to the second void shredder in each phase and uses an
onk totem, then a battle res, and then an onk totem to get through them, leaving
just one battle res available for everyone else's mistakes in a fight
sufficiently difficult enough that in any other configuration if the DPS
check were anywhere slightly more forgiving, you would be using both
battle reses and both onk totems for players mistakes. Yeah, you just can't
do that it is crazy like the requirements in this fight like the mechanical requirements from each
individual player to be able to dodge like they basically can't get hit by anything because of
just not having any Belarus available you need your defensives for like the ability to be cannot
avoid so if you get hit by anything outside of the things that you can't avoid then you're
probably going to die later because you're missing those defensives or you literally just
you just get a bunch of fireballs and you get hit by.
Cush is playing with the gateway for no reason.
For those of you who are wondering what that gateway is,
Xerul puts up a little bitty personal gateway
straddling the line down which one of the intermission cones
fires so that he can, if he wishes, gateway across the line
instead of walking across the line,
a teeny, tiny, unbelievably minor min max
that saves him something like, I don't know,
one to 150 ms total as he moves back and forth.
But that can be enough sometimes for him to finish a cast.
The casters are using a, I'm sorry?
Sorry, like, I'm just saying,
sometimes when you get a line that is perpendicular
to the line of the room,
like another player has like a regicide,
that is like the same direction,
then you could dodge it towards like the middle of a slice
and then take the gate over it, right?
That's exactly what he's done.
Yeah, you're leaving his mind.
Because then you wouldn't be able to walk that far
because you're kind of slow as a warlock.
so that the gate in that moment would actually be saving your life, right?
Yeah.
And if it doesn't save his life, it does sometimes save a cast.
They're using a weak aura that you can see on the caster POV during the intermission
that ticks down and each tick is exactly when the cone does damage,
which enables you to judge, can I finish this cast, then move, or do I need to move first?
Enable them to be very, very precise, maximize their DPS without risking death
because, of course, any death on this fight will result in a wipe.
Eventually, they may still practice they may still get another 4% wipe
But we've seen several times at this point that
Everyone must be alive to the final intermission in order to have a plausible chance of killing this boss
We've done the done the math and checked it out that we had a poll where only one person died before the final intermission
and everyone was alive in the final intermission and
Even if that person had been alive doing the exact same damage as the other member of his class
They would have been 190 million damage shy now
We have replaced that warrior with a second shaman, which is doing a considerable amount
more total DPS that may have reduced that threshold from 190 to something like 140 million damage,
but it's still necessary that everyone be alive until the final admission in order for this to
plausibly die. We also have found that they're using some interesting tech. I did go to the
analysis desk on that break and find out, but not just mirrors, but also Rycen is giving up
his own personal potion to throw a potion at his friends giving 10 of the DPS, 660 primary
stat both on the pull and at 5 minutes 20 seconds into the pull. Again, they both mirrors
and rice and throw another potion at that point giving them another big burst of primary.
So that is some nice group utility being done by some support players in this fight,
providing a big burst of damage on their big cooldowns. Mirror is doing his planned
death there that was according to plan the slicers are coming out and then these
orbs will explode the boss is buffed and you cannot get hit here or you can't
I'm sorry you clicks but luckily he uses that he uses that shaman personal and
on specca with the living here and is ready to top the damage meters with
mini on that enhance shaman as they do get that second charge now so this time
they're gonna have to get those two masks through the boss and they did
successfully do so. As you can see the boss stacks too with that weaker in the middle of the screen.
So they're gonna be taking a little bit more damage from the boss while that stack is up.
Oh, and we lose Ryzen there. And we lose Ryzen. So we do have a battle rise. He cancels his spirit
form in order to presumably just immediately get battle rise so he can set up for the incoming
intermission. They say, nah, we're just gonna reset instead. They're optional if a healer.
So if a DPS dies, they can keep going. If a healer dies, they have two options. One is to
simply reset and the other is to try the nice memes tech the last time they tried the nice memes tech was
before their 4% wipe so they may just simply no longer be willing to do that they may simply be in
the place where they're like we're going to kill the nice meme tech is too unreliable we're not
going to do it anymore and we we just won't be able to see it again yeah which is terribly sad
because it's pretty cool it is very cool uh well while we wait for them to pull we did have
some more donations coming in uh one of them by 2000 ish which is a regular viewer of my
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for the better. Thank you so, so much everybody. We are now in another pool looking very good so far.
Don't want to jinx it of course. Speaking of changing lives for the better,
those preservation evokers doing 2 million hps each in order to maintain everyone's health
through the phenomenal amount of raid damage coming out from this fight, then you also of course have
Ryzen and Zasi who play very crucial roles with raid cooldowns and triage healing specifically,
which the preservation vokers are busy doing the AoE healing, but really a testament to the
extraordinary power of the engulf build we've been seeing as Vayner was forced off of the
Holy Paladin. This is the second time, in the second fight in a row in fact, when a Holy
Paladin has been benched, something that before this tier would have been considered anathema
or extraordinarily unlikely, right, that Oramastry is too valuable because it's too valuable.
Holy Shocking. Are the Triash healing too valuable? But now, just no longer able to stand up to the
immense power of the imminent lead to be nerfed. Preservation of Vokers.
I guess. Sorry to break it to you, but it is going to happen after this race is over.
Yeah, but the kill is going to happen at the last boss and immediately after hotfakes.
Yeah, preservation of ochres nerfed by 30%.
But for now, they're kind of the only thing making the race to world first teams able to do the healing necessary to get through these extraordinarily tuned bosses,
because they can do that 2.5 million HPS for 6 minutes straight and no other healer possibly can.
We come out of that intermission with the boss at 63% and extraordinarily good percentage.
around 65-66% we still have our combat res which is reserved for mirrors and
everyone is still alive as we head into the first set of Queens Banes following
the banana play placing all of these void portals exactly where they belong.
Now do you see the orbs coming through here everyone needs to dodge
perfectly otherwise you're very likely to die taking a damage from the orbs and
there we go the suck is now done we're gonna be able to aim those
charges through the boss well the boss is gonna be positioned so they get
through the boss this is where mirrors does go down and mirrors is back alive
back under the living we do have the two boss decks on the boss as well which
means that they did do the masks correctly we're gonna have to get another
second stack on the second portals that are now on the floor as well so
another suck is coming through. Just like nice means. Nice means and clicks unfortunately also sucks. No I was saying on the floor not the suck.
Oh, yeah, that was too late.
You were saying portals on the floor.
I was saying just like nice memes.
Not that they also suck.
God, that's how.
That's what I heard.
Well, they do reset it.
2DPS dead is too, too many.
We might have kept it going with only one, but two,
we will not.
Nice memes may be.
He's kind of reset.
He took a delayed res there.
He's been doing excellent damage to the fight.
Demon Hunter really blasting, of course,
that mandatory debuff chaos brand. Also darkness extraordinarily good on this
fight because darkness gives you a chance to avoid instances of damage coming in
but I think it's a 20% chance to avoid any instance of damage while you're
standing in it and he puts it down during one of the overlaps where you
have the most incoming ticking damage. Every two seconds two separate damage
sources happening from both the void portals being up and the suck
happening at the same time means that darkness can do a lot in that
time. A huge number of damage instances 20% of which turns into a nice
Big members of darkness doing a lot of work everyone bringing all of the utility they can evokers providing spatial paradox to the healers
Enabling them to cast while moving
rescuing people in imminent danger
From the annihilate from the assassinations excuse me so that they have a big shield absorbing the subsequent Queen's Bane dot
These mages bringing that mask barrier using those during the emissions because we have a comp that does a lot of good stacked healing
But outside of rice in with halo
They don't feel good of spread healing and emissions.
We're relying on things like rallying cry, mass barrier to carry us through those.
And of course, Narko as well, bringing that hand of sacrifice for mirrors,
taking him through some of the places where he is otherwise very likely to die
as the solo tank in this fight.
So lots of utility being offered all around, except sir,
well who's hogging the gateway to himself.
Typical warlock gamers.
But we do have more donations coming in.
I do quickly want to read them out before we go into the next poll. Potentially a kill.
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I don't know what that means. It is so good to see that gaming can change something in that world.
We all come together for that event and can help to change something. Good luck on race hall first.
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I agree and it's a very nice message. Everyone in chat wouldn't
isn't here except for the fact that they love video games, right? And know the power that video games can have just to provide light entertainment, distraction from our woes, you know, fulfillment, meeting people that we would never otherwise have met, right? I would never have met you if it weren't for video games. That's been rewarding for me.
This would be a nice moment for you to say the same thing. But never mind.
Well, speak for yourself.
Exactly.
You actually would have often never speak to you.
All right, mind sooth up, pings coming out.
Go on to another poll, praise be.
All right, so this is poll number 234 for Echo,
long since surpassing the poll count for Mythic Sarkarath.
This is becoming an end boss worthy boss.
In fact, in its tuning requiring perfect gameplay,
its requirement of somewhat degenerate tactics, like having one tank to that. That was very,
very not what was supposed to happen. Oh my goodness!
That is the most catastrophic first set of portals I've seen since day one progress.
None of that went according to plan. Everyone was hit by the void zone dropping because it
it wasn't supposed to be there in the middle, which meant everybody got Queen's Pay, and everyone
was firing the balls out. I would love to see a replay of that. That was extraordinary. Look at
Scribe's smile. That's a kind of catastrophe you only see once per day if you're lucky.
Yeah, and I think that I'm explaining that because usually we don't see this happening,
right? And I think a lot of people maybe don't understand how this mechanic works because
they don't fail it very often. Unlike this team.
It's Queen's Bane, so basically the debuff that makes you shoot out the orbs, that debuff
does get applied to you if you get hit by a bunch of different mechanics, some of them
you cannot avoid.
So for example, if you put the portal down, then you will inevitably also get the Queen's
Bane debuff which then shoots out the orbs.
But if you get hit by a bit of this that you can avoid, you will also then subsequently
get that Queen's Bane debuff and shoot out the orbs.
So if you have a lot of orbs flying around in your raids on Heroic, this is a nobility
too, then it's probably because people are getting hit by abilities that they shouldn't
get hit by, and that's why they're shooting us orbs.
Yep.
Too many balls is always a sign that something has gone wrong.
If you take the Void portal hit, you immediately get the Queensbane, which is supposed to
happen to one person, but on that time it was planted in the middle of the raid,
everyone got hit and everyone got the Queensbane.
Additionally, if you take the charge from the repositioning that gives you Queen's Bane the one person it's supposed to get charged
Inevitably gets Queen's Bane, but if you take a hit you also get a Queen's Bane
And that means you're probably gonna die not only because you weren't top because the healers weren't expecting you to get hit
But also because one extra dot is one too many for these healers to be able to handle
Right like the orbs from the Queen's Bane itself
I don't know if the orbs apply a Queen's Bane and and to be completely frank
It doesn't matter because it kills you
So this is true. In fact, I don't think they do because we have seen mirrors get hit and okay now
I think it's just the placement of the portals and the charge to charge itself that apply the Queens Bane and
That's so whether you're so five people are supposed to get by each of those
But anyone else can by standing in the wrong spot and if they do so they also get one
But they have some very precise positioning here
They get assigned where to go with their Queens Bane in order to place that
radiating orbs in such a way that it will never go through the middle with
extremely precise positioning after they put the void down they run each one of
them runs clockwise and goes out to a certain position and then they fire out
in a way that minimizes the chance it goes through the middle or hitting each
other so it's a very very nice strategy that plays out in a kind of a
choreographed way that's rare in WoW it looks very very pretty when done
correctly. We're going now into the first intermission with everyone
except Mini alive. He has the onk, he'll wait until after the
the mission is over before he takes that just in case other people die and also
because it is not safe on right now you would be at a very high chance of being
clipped by something and just dying again to that Reaper so this is the hit where
Regicide hits everyone in the raid taking everyone very low. Mini takes the
onk now comes back up and we're in great shape once he gets topped for a
phase two. Yeah looking very good now with Mini back alive we do of course
have to save the battle rushes for the tank as we are solo tanking this
between us that we do have to purposely have the tank die three times if
we're satisfied. Once we use that battle rise and twice we use an Ankh-Totem by
surviving a debuff for quite a while on that brewmaster. That's why they switched
to brewmaster instead of having the Guardian. I love that moment where
they pull out the Queen's Bane and then slide in through the gaps. It looks
It's very, very oddly satisfying.
I don't think it's odd, it's satisfying, you do not have to throw shade.
Oh well, that's also oddly satisfying.
That's not satisfying at all, it's just sad.
It's oddly not satisfying.
It's extraordinarily dissatisfying, but we had nothing to do with it, we were talking
about something else.
That's true, didn't you, Cynthia?
This is in fact going to be what?
They're going to try to desperately try to get someone to reset her, but it's
hard to do she's just going through mailing everyone Rev is getting the leap and taunt can he manage it she goes on the
stairs she's scared of the stairs Rev is saves all the mage's well done I don't think he's supposed to press release button
no but he'll run back he saves all the mage's except Genji I do it too like after
weaker that does not allow me to release unless I press control yeah they do it and I still do it
sometimes. I don't know why. It's like bad habit. Yeah I mean it's like I don't know
when you die there's this instinct to just release as quickly as you can. You're
like ashamed of dying but yeah. Rev is luckily was able to get the taunt,
get the boss over to the stairway and Fraggo lived which means Fraggo can
res Mae Volker and I'm sorry Thaynor and then Thaynor can res everyone and
then Jinji will either get summoned or slow everybody down.
He hits the not ready though so that's good. Another thing Raiders will do is just click ready, but not.
Like when every day they do the saying where it's like if you're listening on voice right now, press not ready.
And they listen and they still press ready.
I've done the same. Or they say okay putting up a ready check for pull, you're not ready at all.
You click ready anyway and they say wait I wasn't, don't pull.
Yeah, they're also using the weak core that doesn't allow you to release unless you hold
down control, but I think sometimes when you die you just have that urge you want to release
as quickly as possible.
Yeah.
And the fact that it also happens in like other situations where you have to release
anyway, and then you're just kind of used to like just pressing it, at that point
it just becomes useless, the fact that you have to press it, so yeah.
Yeah, fair enough.
That mindset is going up, always a sign of pull is imminent because it allows
everyone to get much much closer on the pole giving them that extra instant
global that extra auto attack at their beginning not only to close distance with
the boss, popping bloodlust, everyone doing their biggest burst,
Kenex at the top of the meters for about 20 seconds and then he will be
vanishing to the bottom where he belongs.
Wow, that's just mean.
He's done an amazing job this year, it's not his fault too it's fun.
Like some poles, Kenex actually is doing a really good job on that.
One thing I guess for Munkini in particular is that the 6-minute fight length is not ideal, like in the past Munkini actually had, I mean for the longest time we had 3-minute cooldowns, but now we actually played 2-minute cooldowns, which is something that we haven't done in ever.
So a very new thing to us. So the 6-minute duration is still better with 2-minute cooldowns compared to 3, but it's still not ideal, right? You'd rather have it like be 6-30 or...
It is 634.
What is?
Does that help you?
Yeah, so the enrage, the actual damage event that causes almost everyone to die, that floor
covering enrage, happens at 634 exactly.
Wow, well if that is the case, then I wonder if Canix is...
If!
Don't make me pull up the wall, since I will.
It's at 634.
Does that change what Canix is doing in order to get better cooldown diamonds?
That will make me think about it a bit more, because we do have too many cooldowns,
Which if he uses it on cooldown he would get another usage at the end.
But the problem is we also have, like he's playing a talent tree, like a hero talent tree,
that makes our force of nature our trees, very powerful gives us a buff.
And that one is a 45 second cooldown.
Okay.
So it's a little bit weird and you're kind of holding on to your like major cooldowns
to wait for it.
I did look at his damage, I didn't really understand what's going on but I looked
to see where his peaks of damage were and how they overlap with other people so
that's trying to figure out a part of the wild that's in the form, a part of the wild
at the same time as the damage cooldowns, but that makes sense with what you're saying.
If he has two minute cooldowns and he's going to pop him at six minutes, that's right at
the beginning of the mission, which is also when he wants the heart of the wild, coincidentally,
just for the sake of the living.
We do unfortunately lose hopeful to the very final set of regicides that go on everyone
in the raid.
He is going to remain on the floor for the next two minutes while we wait for
second combat res come up because the first combat res is on Mirrors. Mirrors
takes the Onc Totem to survive two to res from the first tank sacrifice in
phase one. He then has a Soul Stone placed on him so he can instantly res for the
second tank sacrifice in phase two and then he takes an Onc Totem in phase three
allowing the second battle res to be used to res a VPS or healer who has
otherwise messed up. We have the first set of charges coming here in
In just a moment, which is also going to be the time that mirrors will take his second tank buster and die
And then use the soul stone to resurrect
Only hopeful still dead you can see that the week or the healers are using
One two three four five marked on everyone with the queen's bane so they can try to allocate healing out
That's what that is. I like that a lot. Wow, that is so that is such an elegant way of
Solving that yes, we've done something very similar like this in the past but with
like much more complicated way so I would like assign certain divas but like by
counting like I'm the first one I heal the first one from from the back yes and
that is obviously a lot more difficult they could go one step further if they
wanted and label them Ryzen, Vayner, Velo, Zazi. You're not as quick as seeing your name then.
They do label them 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 which helps the healers to spread out their
triage healing anyone with Queen's Bane requires immediate attention or they will likely die
because that dot hits extraordinarily hard and puts you at imminent risk of dying to the other
non-stop ticking damage or the inevitable damage in this phase such as the regicide which you
are now we're in the second intermission if we get through this intermission with nobody dying
then hopeful will be resable at the end of this intermission so everyone is popping their
personals there's a wind rush through the middle to help the melee deal with the
enormous concentration of regicides occurring in melee. You see Mini fully locked in, dodging
back and forth. Now everyone gets one at the same time and we lose Vayner. That means that if we
continue to pull, the combat res coming up in 10 seconds will go on him despite his knock.
It's re-healable, but they may keep it going. This is the first pull in about an hour that
we've gotten to phase three. It may be worth practicing just for the sake of remembering
how it goes and for the sake of morale getting another low poll.
Yeah definitely I think that is what we're doing.
We had a little bit of a problem here with that.
Oh, never mind, please.
Yeah, I think there was some miscommunication going on.
Somebody slipped on the banana peel for the Operation Banana.
Yeah, oh, because Fener was that.
Fener was not able to rescue the person to their location.
You're right.
And then they got confused because they haven't done this themselves for such
a long time.
What did you do the vocal?
Their portal yeah, you're right now the week or is programmed to cover that inventuality right if you're if you're getting carried by the vocal
It tells you you're getting carried by the vocal so unless the week or is messed up and said you're getting carried by
Thane or even if they don't maybe there was a life
But she's not ready like maybe he just has gotten rest. Yeah, I did not like to get up, but you're right that is almost certainly a
a uh banana tech mistake a slippery banana peel occurred and uh porto went down in the middle
and a portal in the middle means everybody dies because there was two people with the portal
that were stacked on the same position i think in the star marker uh so something certainly did go
wrong with the the banana tech unfortunately they're probably figuring out right now what happened
and to make sure it doesn't happen again very unfortunate it looks like okay so zotzi
released in order to run back in ghost form ghost will form and get everyone read that's
I thought for a moment he had used his gated Anka available and I thought he's gonna be told use your
Anks to just get everyone up which they've done on other fights, right?
They've done that before to save time running back
But on this fight in particular you risked that it's so high that Anka is actually pretty high value
Because it can extend the pull or even potentially work out the fill. It would be a shame to lose that for the sake of an extra two minutes
runtime and that's why like that's why resetting on this boss also just
He clearly important like making sure that mirrors can get the boss reset here because of course usually what happens is to be soulstone a healer and
Then make sure you can use that to rest everybody back up, but we the soulstone for mirrors
Yep, they actually do start the pull with a soulstone on my son
Just in case by some strange happenstance everything goes wrong within the next first 41 seconds of the fight
Which is when mirrors dies first after mirrors are doing that though. Well, they were
I don't know if it's still because it is obviously a decent damage loss for a server to recast well
He has to oh, yes
Right because mirrors takes the on totem. He dies that means the soulstone will be gone
So he has to cast a soulstone on mirrors after the on
And he has a really obnoxious week or designed by grim to make it impossible for the likes to forget the soulstone pre-pull
Make that week or go away. It's easier to just soulstone myself
Oh.
You'd get left alone.
And you can't up-get rid of the weaker and all.
Like it has to be like this.
Do you think the player controls his own weak aura?
That's grim to take care of that aura.
Well, you can't do anything.
Oh, well, though.
Yeah, so yeah.
That soulstone is reserved for Mirren's,
but it can't go on him until after the Onk Totem.
You can Onk Totem, soulstone Onk Totem.
There's enough time between that,
with a little bit of shenanigans for him to live
for about five seconds longer than he should
to make it through that five minute cooldown of Ankutim,
but you can't soulstone Ankutim, Ankutim, that wouldn't work.
And they do want to have instant reses available
because you can't take the time for someone
to cast res on him by the time that,
you know, one and a half to two seconds cast one off
and you could accept someone would have gotten mailed.
In fact, we have had a couple pulls
where clicks inevitably get turned around
and clapped by the boss when the res was not...
Well, now Mini is here, so.
So it could be I, there's a shaman
getting smacked by the boss.
Maybe they could take turn.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Both of the shamans doing really, really good damage
on the boss.
In fact, shaman damage has been very good all tier.
Yeah.
Soul also as a hunter, very, very high on this boss.
Interestingly, this is the kind of thing
that caused people to say, OK, why not just bring
more shamans?
Why not just bring more hunters?
But outside of the mages, which you could replace three
of them with more shamans and hunters, there isn't really
a lot you can replace here.
You have a Rogue that you need for the Atrophic Poison which reduces the damage the boss does
by 3%
You have to have the tank and it provides a Mystic Touch debuff
You have to have one Chum of the Sky Fury, one Druid, four Mark of the Wild, one Warrior
for Battleshout, one Mage for Arcan Intellect
You have to have a Priest for Fortitude, a Demon Hunter for Chaos Brand, a Hunter
for the Hunter's Mark and one Warlock for the Hellstone
So you don't have a lot of space to play around with your comp
The main space you see that could be played around with is the mage space.
You could cut some of those for an additional enhancement.
But they also add their value than just their damage, right?
The Akavokkar's value is very high because not only is it extraordinarily good utility
with Zephyr and Spatial Paradox and other good buffs, Rescue, they're also, according
to the laws, if you trust them, for Augmentation Vokkar is doing very, very good damage.
Actually competitive with the Enhance Shaman's damage.
Oh, wow. Yeah. Is that high? Yes. Very, very high. That is very good. If the logs are correctly
attributing in, I'm not meaning to slander the logs. I just don't know how they figure
out what damage is attributable to even Mike. Yeah. I just don't know that. It's magic.
A mathematical wizard. I'm pretty good at the counting to five that this week requires
the healers to do, and that's about my limit. Even there, I struggle sometimes. Yeah,
me too. Well, if you have to do it yourself and count the fifth one from the bottom
right corner which your set system was, that would be a failure. I need to label on there for
you. You know what I, okay this is very embarrassing. You know when I go to a gym like you do reps,
right? You like you count your reps and different kinds of sets of different kinds of rep numbers
and sometimes when I do when I have to do high rep sets then I'm pretty sure like I lose count
or sometimes like skip numbers. I'm not sure if I skipped it. Yeah I'm like 13, 15.
Have you ever thought about the fact that to a blind telepath, a gym would look a lot
like a kindergarten, full of a bunch of people taking a lot of work to count to very small
numbers?
Did you think about this while you were at the gym?
Yes, three!
You're working really hard to get to five!
That's hilarious!
That's hilarious.
It's like a really full gym.
So many people counting.
So many people slowly counting to ten as best they can.
It's struggling the entire way through.
I've been also just making mistakes on counting too.
Yeah, you just kept another.
Was that twelve?
Oh, beautiful.
Here's the banana tech coming again.
You get a weak order that says Mae Voker is rescuing you.
of course, Jinji trusting fully in Mae Voker,
taking him to safety, not moving an inch,
finishing every arcane blast cast that he can
for that extra BPS.
They aren't doing the banana tech
what the Voker risks to use just for the extra BPS
of allowing cast or spinach cast, but it is beneficial.
Unfortunately, Rycen getting clipped there
by one of the Queensbane falls
does go into its spirit form,
which is going to require a battle res
to continue this pull.
Mirrors has to go down.
Okay, this is catastrophic and wrong.
Ooh, then to get a reset through, at least here in the city.
We're trying to, uh, yeah, we're trying to get the reset here.
I guess you'll get it.
Yeah, got it for everyone else.
That's good.
All the- I mean, it doesn't really matter if I was leaving the city.
Oh, no, it's not happening.
Never mind, she didn't get to the stairs.
Who is that the stairs?
Maybe she started liking stairs now, all of a sudden.
I think she just didn't get far enough of the stairs to get scared.
At this point, it doesn't really matter.
It doesn't matter anymore, it's just natives and hunters.
They can't raise anyone.
They can use, uh...
What is that spider web running around?
Do we still have the thing?
The engineering thing?
Yeah, I think it's not use-if.
Because it worked in Dragonfly, I'm not sure if it's still a thing in the war within.
Narku's up now, somehow, and he can do the rest.
Normal res on thing.
Maybe he has a soul stone.
Case, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, there's the engineering res, right?
Yeah, so basically you have to put it down before you die,
And then after you leave combat it will rest people around that engineering, whatever it's called.
Oh, not the combat rest, but the other one.
No, yeah, exactly.
I see what you're saying.
Like some emergency robot rest thing.
Yeah, a wipe recovery tool.
Exactly.
I've actually never used it.
I know that it's existed, but I've never used it.
You never used it?
Not in a plus adder, it was a thing in Legion.
To death skip.
I don't remember if I ever did it in Legion, and Legion was a very long time ago.
It is a lot of horror.
Back when you were scared of spiders.
Yeah.
Frago running back and having released, we will summon him three times.
In German there is a saying, we say,
and like my height is that from drama help the sir he needs three times
what's the chance like this like it's just like three times it's like safer
like the third time i kind of like the third time to charm but not really
like checking something three times yeah than checking it once yeah yeah yeah
did i turn off the other four of the apartment yeah i turned off
that that kind of thing it is say it is a bit of a thing
All right. There goes the potion. You can see five DPS in a clump there grouping up to get the potion.
Mirror's throws to give them all 600 primary stat as they pop bloodlust and blast the boss.
Is Genji running around in spiderweb form? Can I get Genji to be who's this?
Who's the spiderweb running around in the middle? Oh, it's Wexie. Do we have Wexie's POV?
He's just wandering around as a cocoon. Some kind of toy, I suppose. I saw as I saw this
mirror image cocoons as well. It's flying around in the middle. All right, we have the
Onc Totem down for 10 more seconds. Mirrors is going to die in about 8 or 9 seconds. They
have this extremely tightly placed. They place the Onc Totem as early as possible to still
cover his death. Oh, that was so tight. I'll have a second left. That way, the cooldown
is running earlier, and it comes back up exactly at the end of the fight where Mirrors
will die again. We do lose. Kush, unfortunately, getting killed right through his cheat
death. That is the Reaper mechanic at work. If you get hit by something that would
kill you that far should you death. And then the Reaper hits you for the remainder of your
life. We're going to go ahead and reset because if someone dies in the first 40 seconds, may
as well start over. And you can always kind of, that's, I don't have that like looking
at the combat timer. I just know that Mirren dies around 41 seconds. So if anyone else
dies, it's around 41 seconds into the fight. Too early. Go again. We've wasted no time.
Also do want to say that the German saying that I said what's wrong, it's actually
Maybe not three times, it's two times.
I mixed it up, I guess, with the English saying.
So it wasn't a saying at all.
No, it's double-tied by some.
It's like double is safer, yeah.
Well, checking twice is twice as much checking as checking once.
This is...
Checking three times is only...
You're a good member's atrole.
Checking three times is only 50% more than checking twice.
So you've got a severe diminishing returns there.
And as everyone in the world knows, diminishing returns are bad.
They're bad.
Yeah, thanks for the compliment to my math skills.
I was German for Germans for coming out on my wrong German sings that I made up.
Honestly, if no one would have said anything, everyone would have just believed me.
I did believe you.
Yeah, there we go.
I mean, I just thought that the Germans were an extraordinarily careful person.
People that check, they're running around us.
Okay, it's done.
Running around is quite a bit.
I did see it.
Yeah, check everything three times.
I don't actually do that.
Also, yeah, I was baiting Chad to get timed out because obviously I'm not
to speak another language because the monster is spandexed.
Correct, and all the time out, can you have another language?
Because you could be saying anything.
Everyone was like, and Germans are very quick at corrects you if you're wrong.
Well, I mean, all humans are.
This is true.
There's no better way to get a guaranteed response than to walk up to someone at 4 in the afternoon
and say good morning.
Inevitably, in any language, everyone of every culture will say,
Morning?
Morning?
How dare you greet me in good will with the wrong time of day, sir.
It's funny because it happens to me all the time on Twitch when people come in my stream
and they'll say good morning to me because it's their morning, but not my morning and
I will respond by saying good morning to them back because it is their morning.
So I'm just being considerate but apparently I'm not allowed to do that.
I'm offending a lot of people whenever I say that.
Yeah.
Got to get the time right.
was like more than correcting one another. This is very true. That's why there was um it's actually
a method for a while to uh purposefully put typos in your youtube video titles because people would
see the typo, open the video and type a comment to just tell the the person that they made a
mistake in their title. Well they say that the it's they say that it's much easier to get
you don't know something right you could go and ask yeah but then people don't want to help
you because helping you is, you know, lame. Just Google it loser. Or, more effectively, just confidently
assert anything and someone will correct you. This is actually such a good point. I love this.
I'm going to do this from now on. You don't ask for help. Just say it. Make something up. Someone
will tell you the right answer. I don't actually know what the integral of x squared is, but if
I say it's y, someone will fix it. This is a very good strategy and I'm going to be
I'm pouring it from now on, thank you.
All right, the players, unfortunately,
have been dealing with a little bit of a dry spell,
I guess I would call it.
We had an extraordinarily good pull a while ago going to 4%.
We had one death early on that was
4p of the intel, the second battle has come up.
But then we had every single player alive going
into the intermission.
They ended that pull at 4%.
And then Karo came on the couch.
Yeah.
Ever since then, we've never
gotten back to the final intermission.
Actually true.
And when we went on a break, she stayed on the couch
continuing to curse their police.
Yeah, this is very true.
I'm so sorry.
I did want to just look at the time.
I didn't realize it was this late already.
It is 9, 21, 26.
So almost 9, 30.
9, 21, 26.
You're counting seconds.
I wanted to do 9 first and then I realized
It's better to say 21-26.
No, it wasn't!
It was very confusing.
Really?
9-21-26.
So it's 9-26.
It is 9-26.
Okay, so I guess you were saying that we could have taken a break.
However, it's likely that they're going to stop playing sometime between 9.30 and
10.00 p.m.
I'm honestly even surprised that they are still playing because I was thinking they
They might slowly want to shift their schedule a little bit backwards and wake up earlier
to his off-reset.
So, they've been being extraordinarily diligent and I have to give them kudos, right?
Every single tier they all say, okay, we're going to stop this thing where we stay up
later and later and come in later and later, but they've done it every single tier.
You come in at 6 for day 1 reset and then you play until 10 instead of 9.30, so now
the next day you come in at 7 and then you play until 11, so the next day you
And then you play till 1230 and you come into 10 and they do that every tier this tier
They've been extraordinarily disciplined and going to bed every single day between 9 30 and 10 maintaining their 7 a.m
Start time for the entire week including heroic week, which is incredibly good
You are right that they are still two hours ish off when they're gonna have to get up for the reset on Wednesday
Which of course we are in fact going to see the second reset that is
guaranteed. But I don't lend them for notch. So this boss could die today right now and then
Silkencourt could get two-shot and then Ansewreck die in one day of progress. And if that happens,
then it would be the weirdest tier ever and not go to a second reset. But you're right,
they've been very disciplined by that time. I'm not surprised they're going until 9.30. I think
their plan was to go to 9.30. I don't think they're gonna try to shit their sleep schedule
for a you know 5 a.m. wake up until they have to for Wednesday until then they're trying to
maintain that 7 to 9.30 schedule. I guess 14 and a half hours a day. Yeah I guess it
does make sense because waking up or starting before 7 costs other issues like with like
food breaks and stuff like that and shifting uh casters schedules around as well of course
which uh which the players don't care about they don't care about that but they do care
about their food. Yes, exactly. That is exactly right. So I think you're right. I think we're
going to be seeing the end of polls relatively soon within the next 30 minutes or so. I still
feel like it would be worth trying. I don't know if Chad agrees. I think it'd be worth trying one
poll where Cara was on the couch since every poll since she sat down has been cursed. Yeah,
I'd like that. Maybe at the desk or take a little break. That's fine.
This is our version of floor POV for cursing all of these pulls because we haven't been back to 4% since she got here.
She's been on the couch for the break.
Alright, now all the way out of the-
Oh, I'm supposed to switch microphones and then I'll keep working.
Alright, as Caro heads out onto the streets of Cologne in order to reduce her impact on the race to world first,
which has been deleteriously affecting our team for the last hour and a half,
Our players are going into the first intermission with everyone alive combat res available
Every player has a stampeding roar to get in position
They're popping personals in order to maintain their health through the regicides coming out
Everyone has a rallying cry. Unfortunately, banner going down. He will get battle rest of Roger face palms
We also lose may boker. So that's gonna be a reset
This one didn't count because Cara was in fact sitting on couch from the beginning of his pole
The science pole is the next pole
It does look like Roger's experiencing a little bit of frustration with people getting double-clicked by regicides in the intermission.
It's a very difficult mechanic.
They've tried to engineer it such that people can't easily double-click each other by spreading out thoroughly around the entire room.
But unfortunately, we did lose Santa there.
One healer you could potentially recover by battle-resing him and then using nice memes to taunt the second tank cluster which Mirrens would otherwise die to.
However, another DJ Stunning as well makes that poll not worth continuing. We reset the boss instead.
The question is will they can- no! She stayed on the couch too long! They're her stung!
Not one single poll unadulterated by her influence.
Taro, you can come back.
Karo? Okay, she's gone.
Her down stream might need these. Good luck have fun. Get the kill. Love from Scotland.
Excellent, there's going to be some mail.
So they are her sending out.
That was the last pull of the day.
The team is done with mythic progression for the evening.
They'll come back tomorrow and continue trying to get the kill after ending with a 4% wipe
at 240 pulls.
Thank you all so much for watching, but that will also end this portion of the broadcast.
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I called for the show to end, Mitch!
I'm not speechless!
I said we're sending a task!
You're listening to the wrong headset! You told me to switch! I switched headsets!
I-
Why were you just-
The best handoff of all time!
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Good night, everybody!
I'm like goodbye. We're sending it to ads and then Mitch is like, are you just not talking for a reason G?
So did you see what happened though? This is actually really funny
The poll that you leave on yeah, was going really well until it didn't and they wiped them like okay
That's fine now. We're gonna have one full under-cultured poll without hair and they start harpsoning out
He poisoned all of them. I'm so sorry. It's her fault. It is her fault
Blame for this one. I think that's fair and as a result since I already threw the show to ads and said goodnight to everyone
You have to do it the second time. I'm on strike. I will do that. Well, thank you so much for watching
We're gonna be returning tomorrow, of course for the kill probably first try
Very likely guaranteed in you're not
I do have the ADF shields!
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And the logo is a hammer.
The Vezerman Blue Twister brought down a peg or two
so that the other guilds in the world
can actually start challenging a little bit better, right?
I almost fully expect something we've requested many times
is like, make sure the changes you're going to make
to these bosses that make them far more
acceptable to the rest of the player base
are already ready and ready to go.
Week two, get them going, get them out there.
As the reset does come in, we're probably
very likely to see the first pull soon.
And you're correct, they want the war.
The race will first is huge in the World Warcraft scene.
And I imagine there's a load of people watching right
now, right?
This early in the morning, whatever.
We're not even 8am here in Germany.
We don't even play WoW anymore.
I imagine I see it all the time.
It's like, dude, I don't even play WoW.
But when the race is on, I come back, I get my eyes in.
I see other games going, I do all that kind of stuff.
That was me.
I've watched the race since Sylvanas.
And I haven't played WoW at all in my life.
The reason I'm here is because of the race to a first.
And the joy that it brings people.
And also, the joy of splits sometimes as well.
Not fun to be part of, but fun to experience.
I got you this time.
So you suffered.
You jumped head first into this, oh wow, Kastin, didn't you?
Yeah, I did.
I kind of expected that first week would give me some practice
in talking about the bosses, and it did a little bit.
But it gave me much more practice in talking
about random bullshit that came into the top of my brain.
Which is a skill you can now take somewhere else.
You might be that Kastin.
So let's say League has some bizarre five-hour gap
for whatever reason.
I'm sure it does happen with tech issues and things.
Not as much as these days.
They're used to a lot.
Yeah, no, no, you can go, my man.
Yeah, I'm here.
Time for Bridgeton.
Let's go.
Do we have any spicy chips?
Fancy 14 which is the immediate point you go to is Bridgeton featuring that wonderful character that we all know and love
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Solid play. Yeah, yeah, Graha forever. He can't because hey, he's a good character. Yeah, he's a thousand years old
And he's just a cat boy. He's like that
It's doctor who a cat boy
Sometimes
time coming. Doctor who can change whenever he wants to do, but it is an exciting feeling
here in Cologne as the guys, you can see the smiles on them. We talk about it a lot, right?
This isn't something that is unusual. Certainly if you follow the race to World First with
Echo for a long time, is the flip that Echo makes. There's behind Echo, there's behind
catch-up echo that's less serious honestly in a lot of ways and they always kind of don't
seemingly have it together yet. It's a weird thing that happens with Echo and then
on a certain day something changes and they switch sometimes that's when they pull ahead.
So if you look at Sepulcher it'd be like when they killed Lord of Dread and then suddenly
it was a new echo. It was an echo that was fierce, dominant, it showed that world-first
potential. Whether that's happening today, don't know, but what I can tell you is we are pulling the
boss. Guys, what you're likely to see here is crap, crap, crap, crap, near kill. That's what we're looking
at. That's also kind of this boss, right? Yeah, a little bit. If you get through the first couple
of intermissions with everyone alive, you are much closer to the kill. We have to remember,
comp has changed overnight as well. So they're going to be using the ancestral protection totem
on now after the tankbusters to bring him back to life, meaning that he can eat that
taunt, eat that extra damage and still come back. One tank, not a strategy we too commonly see,
but it's a strategy that has been working for liquid overnight.
It's a strategy that's on the checklist of how do we beat this boss. So we can
track this all the way back to the beginning of time, which is there is a checklist when it's a DPS,
a DPS check, right? And the checklist goes, drop a healer. It literally works that way until
you physically cannot drop anymore then the next is can we drop a tank now
interestingly enough this was one tanked on the PTR it is something the guilds were
aware of for a really long time in PTR testing they realized you can one tank
this fight especially because they weren't lasting more than 40 seconds
yes on the PTR but that is something that they were fully aware of and once
once you've got all your DPS in and you still need more damage it's a
straight-up idea usually you drop heels we've seen them drop to two
healers on some end bosses because it was just required and now we're down to the point where
it's like okay we cannot physically get away with less healers yet. Although I will tell you Potta
has done the spreadsheet should they need to drop healers. It is there and done so we'll keep
our eye on that unless something horrible happens they may go that route. Yeah I mean less than
four healing this is going to be really tricky it's going to be so hard especially with it's
not burst damage it's waves of damage consistently and then the burst when you get to 10%
We lost a couple of players in phase one already. You can see Robin is down as well on that tank.
Don't need him right now. You're in the intermission. The boss is only putting out these
blazes and these pizza slices. So you can leave him dead until after the intermission,
then bring him back up with that ancestral protection totem, which is a little totem
that Shaman can leave on the ground that then someone can take as they're onk.
As they're there. So as you die while it's down, you're good. You can come back up and
it doesn't eat your combat res usage. So it's a wonderful item. If you're 99% sure
someone's going to die here, they're just going for a straight reset. Nice, back in.
But obviously we're at that Rhygalon point, which is it needs to be perfect or it doesn't work
because now the combat res, which are resource, we've seen this in Archimonde, we've seen this on
a variety of bosses where combat res is straight up just a raid tool. It just relies on the
rest of the players to not die because we're going to be using that combat res later. So
if you might remember like Archimonde mythic specifically is in the final phase, there's
There's this huge crystal that's pummeling the tanks and you've got to all like switch
damage to it or you can just kill the tank and it goes away.
Yeah.
And you can just carry on killing the boss and just res the tank and just bypass that
mechanic entirely.
The guy's always looking for things like that.
So now we are at...
We're at zero day.
There's nothing left.
You know?
Vansus has been sent.
You know?
There's nothing left to do other than essentially dropping a healer.
Oh, we're doing rogue tanking.
Oh my goodness. Just like only DPS. Dodge every mechanic, see if you can survive it.
Can we kite the boss? Can we do it? Yeah.
No, we tried that yesterday with Revez. He was running laps around me.
But she's very speedy. Yeah, she's quite quick.
Yeah, she's a speedy little one. She is a very speedy lady.
When you can jump through the Nether, it becomes a little bit easier to chase people down as soon as possible.
Can she of course be ascended by the power of Xalitose?
Well, it's not Xalitose. She's ascended by someone else's power.
in the transformatrium
yep that's
it's called the transformatrium
yes
yes that's what it's called
that does sound like a name of a thing
it is, it's the transformatrium
that's ascended by the Europeans
yeah but Kvesa specifically is an assassin
who's coming from the outside
ooh good boy
I thought she was an ascended
she may be ascended but she hasn't been
ascended by Xalata
the whole idea is someone is trying to
mess up Xalata's plans
plans and at the start of the boss fight as you walk in, she's talking to someone through a portal.
Oh, I read that. Yeah. Yeah. But you're not even fighting her yet. Well, this is, this was my debate.
Right. You get to 500 pulls. Do you think she just says you're not worth my time? I'm going to kill
Anserac and then you actually just get to clear the raid anyway. I think that's more copium than
she dies at 10%. Which was the crackpot theory that was running yesterday is, you know,
I think she might die at 10%. Yeah. No. So this is going to be a wipe. This is going to
going to be a wife and because it's going to be a wife, I think we can cut away from
the gameplay for a moment because we do have a flashback we want to watch of yesterday's
action and with the players going through ready checks as quickly as they are, I think
we get it in now, get it in early before we get into the success it puts.
Send it, Zin.
He can't keep up with God in spirit!
That's wild.
That is nuts.
He didn't even try healing anyone else.
I'm just healing myself.
That's it.
That's the whole fight.
You've seen everything.
Now they just need to do that with a hundred percent more damage.
No, that's panics. No way. Oh, it does seem like we've had a couple new changes. All right, so yeah.
No way. I mean, good pull though. Good pull. Push come over here. Libby massage. No, don't.
We're gonna be digging around the fucking sports games.
Oh no!
Oh no!
Run!
He keeps on f-ing laughing!
I feel like I figured it all out.
Hopefully now it goes down.
Look at the face.
Oh come on!
He did it.
Although they have got a solution, everything's solved.
We can do the same thing over again.
The food at dinner tonight, you need to swallow your mouth and mic for a second.
Although you have a solid one.
What you'll see if we can jump on over to the desktop catcher is we have
Nara's tanking in the middle here, we have Xalateth in the top right corner
obviously watching over us.
Unfortunately the oblox were covered in lead paint.
They've really done a number.
Have you heard of Richardson? This is eco-shit-un, I guess.
You can see just how much damage begins coming out of 20.5, 20.4,
20.3 and I think that's it all done 20.2
Merits taking that last little bit of damage out
20.1 I don't think we're getting close
Oh it's 20 on the dot
Eyyyyyyyyy
You're gonna be frecker
This has been a slow wormage of a way through
The bullet was already on the skin when it started and it's gone millimeter by millimeter through
There's been no shooting here
It's been a dawdle, a trundle, a trudge, perhaps, a meandering path taken through those
intuptable worms alongside the eggs with the parasites slowly infesting our very souls
and now moving into the grasp of the nether that has been Kivesa.
It has been a joy to go home, but also an experience of nightmare-ish monstrosity.
I've loved every second of it, but mostly I've loved the beans.
Damn dude. Yeah, mostly I've loved the beans. It's true and we're into another pool time this better
Yeah, straight back in the story of cannecks throughout this raid has been a joy and a pleasure
I don't know if he's aware of half of it. Yeah
Hey guys, remember when we put your face on a book is like are you put my face on a boot?
I'm in and a group mechanical bin
Jumping around in a mechanical bin a couple days ago
And yeah, the story of Caddx, that'll teach him who used to be educated.
He does, he does.
It serves him right to come here.
Yeah, imagine.
He could come here and give us entertainment while you're trying to complete the race
to World First.
Now dead here, I think, before the Tampas.
Yeah, that's pre-emptive dead.
Yeah, that's not where you're supposed to die.
So they do...
They have a combat res.
They have a combat res.
So they'll bring him up after the charges come out.
Not the one they wanted to use yet, but that's okay.
We'll just have to adjust later because he might get wrecked in a second.
It's possible. Remember the Ankh doesn't or the Ancestral Protection Totem doesn't use a combat res
Which is why you can use it in this sort of strategy
But we kind of need all those combat res is for later in the fight as well
So it's most likely the players are just trying to get back into form back into shape after a night
You know you had a bit of time to reset but the mechanics might not quite be there
You're just remembering exactly what the boss does at every single moment
And you can see a few deaths going down rising going into angel form now falling once again
Yeah, it's this is going to be a complete disaster until it works. Yeah, which is so classic echo
It is exactly what we're expecting if you follow them at any point
It's going to be a constant state of failure failure failure failure. Oh
They seem to be doing rather well and it could come at any time with these guys. It really can they know that too
They know it's not a case of they're gonna play badly, but this fight is
tuned to just murder them. I really hope Silkencourt isn't like free after this.
It can't be. There's no way. People didn't survive more than 30 seconds on Silkencourt on the PTR.
And it doesn't look like Blizzard have been heavy handed in the nerf, right?
Even coming into this week when we were in Heroic, we saw a bunch of buffs to answer it.
Like 100% damage increased on certain abilities, 100% damage on HP on certain mobs.
So my expectation is that we'll get into Silkencourt, we'll try it for a couple of days,
And then it will be split it'll be m plus it'll be everything gearing up for that greater volts and the research
Yeah, probably we'll go to see what horrors await us. It might come down to I wonder if this
My gut feeling is this is the gear check here. Yeah, this is if you can kill this you should be okay for the next couple
The mechanical
Madness is going to be silken coat where it's not really about your damage. I mean it matters kill the boss bastard law
But it's going to be about absolutely perfect positioning play
This has got a lot of that in there. In fact, this does have that Holanderous vibe
To what's going on but more a case of really complex stuff
That's gonna need to happen from every single player on the Silicon Core to make it work and managing huge amounts of things
But they should be okay gear wise. It's more a case of like can you actually do anything?
Because this is killing you out of brute force, right? This is the sledgehammer fight
The other one is going to be just a thousand needles.
The fight of a thousand cuts.
Yeah, with bombs.
Which is what you need.
I haven't heard of a fight of a thousand bombs before.
Oh we're going to see it soon.
I did see it on Holondras as well. I'm pretty sure it's a good old day.
Yeah, I mean that's a way of putting it I suppose.
I wasn't casting so it was the good old day.
It's hilarious.
Because I just get to watch.
Yeah, you'd think it would be a miserable drawn out experience but it was so fun.
fun. The cast of curse was real. He was like, they're doing really... You know what, he
hasn't died in a... And super close plays. But as you've seen from the highlights video
we just showed you there, every single person is having to do some really ridiculous stuff
to stay alive in this fight. It's... I'm impressed. I'm impressed. They've been crunching
really hard to change up and make the guilds adapt. And not only in terms of gameplay,
Cush has gone down there, which is not what you want to see at this HP. Make the guilds
adapt to all the resources they have, because it's gotten wise to what they have, and there's
changed these fights to make them work and bully them, because it's mean.
It is mean, but in a very enjoyable way. Yep. You know, bit of a masochistic guild
here in Echo, I think Liquid are the same. Yes. We enjoy the pain. I also want to
know who's best. This is a race. It's not like, let's, killing the boss is part
of it but who's best you know that's important to these guilds these are hyper
hyper competitive players second place might as well be fifth six seven
yeah exactly they both feel that way it's like yeah we we didn't win okay why
as if you're putting all this on to lose right in either guild they want
that victory so a fresh young echo is here they've well rested they didn't
stay up too late last night I was I was quite impressed because I thought when
we got that 20% pull as the last pull of the night or it was a P3 pull I thought
they'd say let's do a couple more hours but they've been very consistent on the
we wake up we're in our chairs by 7 a.m. we're out of our chairs by 9 30 I do
find it very funny that the feast just sits there during this fight they ran
past it twice like I do you want to grab some food quick quick quick quick
things things things get for you eat it quickly I love this feast they're
finally moving to these none have to eat ever true yeah oh the years of
my life spent just sat there waiting 10 seconds for people and then somebody
didn't start. There are a few quality of life things I think that frustrate me a
little bit about raiding in WoW. The feasts dying, that your food buff dying
between pulls really annoying, I also find the reset mechanic weird. Like as a new
player a couple of times we'd be wiping and someone say res a healer, someone
would res me and I'd be like oh I've got a res, I should come back into the
fight but that's not what you're meant to do, you're meant to res after the fight.
And then also after the bosses reset after the fight has happened because if you res too early
Something weird, you know, you have to fight the boss and it doesn't usually work as a healer against a boss. I
Would like a just like an automatic
We've wiped reset everyone res's half HP whatever like just an automatic
Yeah, it's quite nice. It's a little frustrating to have to like trick around it. It's like, oh, do you have uncle?
No, I used it. We can't uncle on this one. Okay, put out a battle res
We don't have a battle where it's okay. We all have to run back.
I'm not running back.
Whichever healer releases first has to do the trudge of shame.
Resolute you for your sacrifice as you make your way back.
Rumbacks are an antiquated part of this.
Obviously something that has gone from both Guild Wars 2 and Final Fantasy XIV is the idea of any Rumbacks.
They just have the room with the boss in and that's it.
There's nothing else. There's no trash. There's no big dungeon.
It's you go in, they build a really sort of,
they put all their resources that you put,
Blizzard puts into creating an immersive giant cathedral
with doorways and platforms and trash packs and stuff.
They just put it into one ridiculous room.
So their latest raid, the Arcadian
is a pro wrestling themed raid.
Oh wow.
So they built a huge arena with thousands of viewers.
They built like a wrestling ring.
They have an announcer.
They did a load of voice acting.
So the announcer they have like commentary teams like ourselves, but they like shit talk you if you fail
They like call you out and like give you abuse
That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's really funny because you like wiped or died to something and he's going oh
A poor play there. He doesn't seem to know how to get out of the fire
And he's just kind of like yeah, that's kind of funny
Yeah, so they've got with that and funnily enough the third boss in there the brute bomber because they're all professional wrestlers in the fight
Maybe we knew it had an enrage on the savage version, which is FF's equivalent, I think.
I wonder what it is. The guy literally runs out of the room, climbs the building, and body slams the arena.
Oh, that's cool.
Like, because that, and it just kills everybody. He just dives on top of you and body slams it.
I think we'd call that hard enrage in the business.
You are straight dead. Yeah, there's no getting out of it.
We have lost both Zatzi and Thana at that point there, but we have Ark, and we have the combat res.
Not where we wanted to use it Robin is just died at the exact same point
Which he was the snowball effect of the situation
We should probably start having a little look you know as we're progressing this today as the HP values coming out of the intermissions
It's usually a nice tracker metric
Usually at 69, but obviously we haven't made it clean yet. Hey, this is 68 and a half
Intermission
You really want 68? Yeah about that 66 obviously is if you mathematically break it down into three phases
you want to be 66.6, 33.30, right? But we are lusting on pull. We will get execute damage,
obviously, as the fight goes on, as the boss's health goes lower, so you do have another kind of
mini battle bloodlust later on in the fight. But we have to get there first, if we're going to be
able to take down Kvesa. And currently, a few too many mistakes in phase one.
Yeah, it's all mistakes that are excessively punishing, excessively punishing. But that's
They've done this many many times. They've pulled off the impossible both echo ad liquid have done it
What seems completely insurmountable on day one?
I've told every new cast who's ever joined us and like having this boss to kill it or like
Trust they find a way they find a way even if it doesn't look possible
They will find a way they need more damage. They'll find it somewhere
Do they need can they do it without a healer on a fight where everyone's getting murdered in seconds?
They'll find a way usually because of big brains like you're looking at right there Chris Potter
I had a chat with him before we started today. He went get me the hell out of this boss
He's like dude. It's only boss five boss six. Yeah, it's gonna be in boss five
He's only come back for this race after hiatus to leave the healing team and he's walked straight into the wall
Jesus Christ like I heard that was lost in two days. What happened the last boss of like a hundred poles
Yeah, yeah, not today. We're on boss 6.
I'd must prefer this. 59?
Yeah, but they've been chain-pulling.
It's a one-person dies P1, resets, ready check, pull again.
What else is it to learn?
Oh, 100%, right? And that is a very liquid strategy as well.
I expect we'll see Echo doing that a bit more today,
because when you've locked in your comp yesterday,
it was a little bit of tweaking around.
We had the macro for the evokas being played with.
We had the positioning being played with at the start of the day.
now it feels like they are locked and loaded with this commo.
I saw that coming so far away.
Right, right, they're laughing.
Let me tell you, the biggest drama happening in Echo right now
because it is so preposterous.
It's so stupid.
When Roger came in to ask the casters about it, Alex was like,
get rid of it.
It's so stupid.
Can we watch, let's watch next poll.
Let's watch, say, Jinji, hopefully.
In fact, let's watch Fraggo, and you'll get our fan out, and you'll get an idea of what's happening.
Is it banana situation? Is it banana game?
No, they have a ridiculously complex week, or I've seen the code for it.
Oh, it's banana game. They started using the...
I don't know why it's called banana game.
The safe word banana. So, Roger was like,
hey guys, I can't say use the macro because it's too long,
so I'm just going to start saying banana, and that means you should use the macro.
You explain what it does because it's so stupid.
So the idea behind the macro is you get a private aura that assigns you the nether phantom.
So you press a macro to put a popular list that says, hey, I have the nether phantom.
Then the evokers get given a list where they have to rescue you into your specific position.
So there's a few levels of button pressing to get there.
But if they rescue you with the Hero-Tanok Twin Guardians, you get a 30% max HP shield
and they get a 30% mshp shield, which should help you survive
and to the damage.
Global cooldowns, so you see the mages are the top priority.
It means the mages don't have to stop casting for zero seconds
because they have shimmer.
They could keep casting.
They've been trading for this big years.
It achieves so little.
It does give this little shield, but it always kind of leads
to wipes like not always.
Sometimes it works, but it leads to wipes like that.
The thing about it is, it's 4 million effective HP in shielding, and if I'm potter, I'm saying...
There's a rescue solve, he's gonna move solve. There you go solve, you can go stand.
That's it.
Oh no, two people got rescued to the same spot.
It's fine!
They adjusted themselves, and now the rifts are in the wrong place.
You see what I mean? They're just like, why not just use the I's weak aura?
That's what the reply was for the players.
because the one time it works, it's 4 million effective HP.
And Potter is there, he is smiling.
Because that's not just on one player, that's on five or four players.
That's the weakest damage in the raid.
Yeah, but all the things happening, that's the least you can do.
Healers don't have to heal.
That means they can DPS.
It's so healing.
What we need is the window of the Nether Gryffs.
See how much extra DPS our healers are getting down in that time.
It's so massively unnecessary. It achieves nothing.
It is typical, a little bit of an overcooked. You know, he had this really cool idea with
the geometry of where we're abing the phantoms. It's very pretty. And now it's perhaps a bit
of an overcooked. But if it works, we'll all be eating our words.
It's like the advancement of your drawing, right? Because you came in and did that scuff
paint drawing and then it's really just slightly better version. And now there's
like a really fancy version just to show how this works to make her their positioning and stuff all
clear. I'm not on our system an analyst. If I do it, it's just like a handprint. You know,
like a toddler that paints their hand and just slaps it down. This is a turkey. Here we are.
Look, I can make a rabbit. It's a nice, smoochy picture. That's how I get it done. But yeah,
it's all good, man. It's all good. I do want to give a shout, of course, to the sponsors
making this event happen because they are very fortunate because we're going to be here a
It's a secret lab, of course, Starforge PCs giving us these wonderful clean frame rates.
I've noticed that many times we log in because people have been doing heroic pugs now.
And getting those 30 people in there is like my PC room is like absolute trash in here.
My laptop is crying as we shout to Starforge for providing these PCs for us.
And of course to MaxRoll who provided our analysis desk, and no doubt pretty soon
we're going to see Adyth the Beef turning up because he smells mythic progress and
he just sort of cries.
Oh damaged numbers. Oh two people on the same one again. Oh, no, but they move it's fine
They're having to adjust themselves. You see the problem. I think it's because May Voker had a rescue
Oh, no, there's still it's absolutely. I think May Voker had a rescue and had one of the nether grips
No, the phantoms so he rescued and moved across but then there was another nether in the wrong place
Come on guys. Just go for it. Go for it. Banana
Banana! Banana!
Just let it go!
It's so pointless!
It's the easiest bit to heal in the whole raid.
It's like, just passive healing will do it.
That's what a non-healer would say.
Uh, I've been a healer.
I've been a main healer for a long time. I've still been it.
Yeah.
There's so much effort.
And it goes wrong.
I mean, do we have any
objective proof that it goes wrong, Mike?
You know?
That's true. With the logs, it seems to be working the person.
Perfect.
see the shield applied.
Yeah, that's the important bit.
Yeah, it's, oh, Swag actually doing okay.
I was a little worried because obviously on Brute Swister,
Windwalker's not really popping off.
Swag is a phenomenal player,
not only a world first player in WoW,
but a world first player in FUNCONCES as well.
So absolutely phenomenal player,
but of course, Windwalker is kind of yoyoing around,
so he's AOE, but holding his own,
that's what we want to see in there
because there's no room here for you to damage,
but you do need that monk,
month off you can have it muscle of
love no that's that's the droods that's
how long something the little
totems is I'm a bit more important on
the boss so the boss is what you're
after so he's got to have that monkey
there I'm sure mirrors about to be
there
I wonder what mirrors is doing with his time
actually yeah it might be cool radio
and being in place I see him currently
doing his awakening quests yeah so
enjoying the story he needs a break
that lad. MIRAS has been doing far more than a human being should have to do in a raid scenario.
Not a perfect layout here but should be fine. A little bit more of a tug towards the cross.
But yeah, you'd have to remember for now as well it was MIRAS who was directing the
boss a lot yesterday. So now now is having a little bit more of that responsibility of
like where to pull the boss, where to position some of these nether rifts can be a little
bit tricky and we see the first death going down. I don't know if that was to the
tank bus. Yeah that was fine. Yeah, that was deliberate. That was deliberate. It was deliberate.
We'll go through what's happening because it's probably looking a little bit too.
It's very chaotic. It's very chaotic. Yeah, there's a strategy in place now which is called
preposterous and that's what's happening. But that's okay. That's what we watch these guys
for. We want to see the crazy. If it was a standard farm kill, nobody would watch anything
because why would we? But now we've got into the weird and wonderful world of crazy strats
which were all on the menu for a long time. We had a board and yeah this was there. We just called
it just sent in some madness of where these struts end up going and we are kind of there now as we
this is the cleanest we've seen them. You've cursed them now man. It's absolutely doomed.
I mean they are definitely doomed. Yeah that's not on me believe me.
Well everyone going into the intermission still alive we'll see where we spread out. So
we have been seeing that we'd put two people down towards the back of the room to
have them just dodging away from each other. You can kind of see that here from Echo Thana
in front of Hopeful, but Hopeful gets clipped. I think by Pizza Slice, I wasn't quite sure.
Yeah, it was just a little unfortunate. Hopeful does literally like go to Ogremar
to get the hell away from everybody and plays on his own at the back. Obviously a lot going on
here to free up the space in the room. So if your caster gets the hell out of there and
and leave the melee to themselves so they're coming out there what was the boss HP on that one?
67 yeah 67 yeah that's okay we'll see players down so we will be looking at on pace for killing
this boss once that goes smoothly but the idea is of course the bosses really mean so you have
those blaze lines like you saw him frack coming out but when the last one is everybody gets one
yeah and that room suddenly feels real small all right the weco is all kind of messing that
Like, it's kind of, it's okay-ish, but uh...
When it works.
Yeah.
And everyone knows, so now you're relying on like this other person to know exactly where the other person should go.
While they're also doing everything else they need to do, like it's just, just sort yourself out, man.
I don't want, the problem is it could cause frustration on the players, because they've been asking to not have it.
Yeah.
Uh, they don't like it.
There is a reason for it, like you said.
The shield is, is good.
But they're like just I'd rather you just rescue me randomly. Yeah, just give me a shield then then when I really need to get where I need to be
so yeah, that's all how that's
don't lose the smile because of a
Technique that's maybe not that necessary. I mean you say the one time it works a hundred percent effectively this boss is dead
I don't think that's the make-or-break of what Kips is for.
It might not be the make-or-break, but if it happens I'm gonna say it was, because there's
no way for us to prove it.
Yeah, I will bow down.
If they literally get the weak aura right once, and they kill the boss.
There's the weak aura, obviously.
I will bow down.
Yeah, it works, and then they kill the boss.
Easy game.
Easy game.
We'll get into another poll in just a second time.
Let's talk a little bit about that tank buster because it is a little bit tricky to see so the main thing that we are seeing happen with
This one tank strategy is that now we'll eat the tank bus, so I can't remember the name of it
I'm afraid I don't know if you know vicious assault. Yeah, which is assault. He'll die because obviously he'll die and then they'll
Res him with the with the Ankh-Totem
So it's kind of an enforced death, but no one else gets hit during that time anyway
So it's very it's very fine for now to die and come back with the aunt that doesn't use a combat res
So then later on we can then combat resume when he's eating another one of those tank buses and bringing back to life the intermission a very safe phase
In terms of tanking the boss just not a very safe phase in terms of the mechanics that you have to deal with on the floor as well
Yeah, exactly. So the fact of the matter is two tanks is one too many for the damage check the boss requires
That is again a bit on the menu for a while liquid center earlier on because they realized yep
We need that a little bit extra
Echo was talking about it yesterday and as well as like can we get away like I said Potter is already prepared
For like a three or even two heel strap that may work
Quote unquote Potter has done the work on it. He was sat at dinner telling scribe is like I'm ready if you want to send it
And scribe did not look convinced. I wouldn't be convinced at all
But there is an argument that people are dying to one shots a little bit more than they're dying to the Reaper passive
We're not seeing too many people hit 10% and then die, although people are going low.
We're seeing more people get hit by a Blaze, or by a Pizza Slight, or by the Queen's Bane,
and then falling just in a one-shot. So do you actually need healers at that point?
Get rid of all four of them in my books and just tell the DPS to play better.
Any bandages? Let's go back to some bandage gaming and let's get that done.
Ryzen did not seem inspired this morning. All the players here in the venue who are hyped up
was walking by Ryzen. It was like, today's the day, dude.
Yeah, I was up at 5.30 this morning looking at Liquid pools and looking at their priests
to see if there was anything that he could do differently.
Yeah, I'm missing anything.
There's some shenanigans we can do.
There's always that case when you're dealing with the absolute best players in the world
is like they found some talent that's weird.
I was not referencing anything then, but there's something like new with priests.
Specifically with priests.
Not with anything else.
anything else. Everything else is working perfectly. I know that you didn't deliberately go down that
road though. No, I really didn't. I realised that afterwards. Yeah, I was like, oh, that's a foot in a
shoe. That is where feet should go. That's the place to be. That's the place to be. Now, I would
never do that. No. Because that leads us on a different road, which has been a meme for the last
few days, which I also tried. This is a minefield. Yeah.
Dancing shoes. That's right. There we go. Because dancing shoes, you put more pressure
down wearing dancing shoes oh you know I'm surprised it's not like a tap no my
girthy I'm very ballerina ass yeah you're not like girthy now either but
still there still pretty good especially after meal last night
potato salad well no we moved to we ended up in a traditional German pub which
went full forgot that we'd ordered food like actually came to us an hour and a
half later and we weren't bothered because we were talking and he was like
yeah so I'll be honest with you guys I totally forgot you don't have food
It's okay and he brought us uncooked mints again.
Oh Matt!
It's delicious!
Hard pass again!
What's wrong with pork mints uncooked put on some brot?
Covered in delicious raw onion.
Mmm!
Nom!
It is very tasty.
Don't listen to food.
She has no food sense.
That's true.
The other day we had a mints like goulash typey thing with potatoes, tofu and wild
potatoes and you called it deconstructed lasagna.
It looked like that deconstructed lasagna from afar. It looks like that. Okay, your palette is less refined than this strategy from actually
We were looking at the picture
You ate the food and then came back and said it's deconstructed lasagna was sure
Anything with a cheesy top is lasagna to you cheesecake lasagna creme brulee. It's kind of it's not that cheesy
but it's kind of lasagna. It's because there's a boba place near me in Berlin that does a cream cheese
creme brulee boba. It is I mean it's like a thousand calories it's way too much rice but it's delicious
and so that's why my mind automatically went to cheese when I was talking about creme brulees.
Yep, that's he's dead I believe he can so we should be okay yeah yeah I don't like
Pete you know he had to use the combat res that's okay he's like it was on a
must have been on cooldown yeah oh it's quite a long cool down yesterday you were
talking about not looking at the way frames if you look at the raid frames in
this fight apart from to see if people are dead or not you are just going to
be scared the entirety of the time can we scoot over to hope for perhaps
and see him out on his own there he is living his best life his bachelor life out in the middle of nowhere
I assume Giddy's doing the same yes if we swap over to Mikey boy maybe yeah there's also a mile away
three gobsmot room yeah watch all these blazes now they're coming out look the whole room fills
so it's super important because this is great 67 yeah it's 60 straight into 66 is where they're
coming out so they're on pace my friends first one of the day yeah that is crystal clean
Apart from the one death on such obviously expected like this cleaners. We're gonna get I think
We'll roll with that, but this is really good now. Let's see if the week or a screws them up
Oh one person in the middle. I hope for rescued that is greed of an order of magnitude. That's not necessary
It's also out of position slightly. I don't know if you got totally was getting a pole, but didn't oh
Needle ginger nice ginger ginger has been very much on form who is getting through those gaps and still everyone pretty help
Pretty healthy right now down below 60 percent. We'll see the first cycle of charges in
That's the problem like it's you can maybe get through that but now your actual shade charges are coming from the weird location
But that is better. Yeah, that's what we want to see. We need a bit more of that
We need that to last about another two and a half ish three minutes and we might see the boss fall over
God, I hope they get there and kill it
They won't. I know they won't.
They'll get there and it'll, ah, imagine like a 2% on this boss.
It would be invigorating, but also just fill me with dread.
Because like, how do you find a 2%?
I actually, I might pop over to the Maxwell Analyst for a second to see what our DPS is before our first couple of deaths.
Our anticipation was that we needed 19.2 million, and I want to see if we're on track for that today.
Yeah, for sure. Let's crunch some numbers.
Blizzard's been crunching all the numbers so it's about time we did some math first thing in the morning on a Sunday
That's what we want to do
I'm sure many of you are maybe even watching from bed this morning get yourself coffee got yourself something going on chillin out
Catching up with the race to world first, but the guys are just relentlessly pulling now
The this is all that execution. We have reached that point
There's there is some more fat to trim if they have to but they would really rather not right
We do not want to have to start dropping healers or anything like that
But if they have to they will because there's nowhere else for these guys to go splits. I kind of don't
Bific plus is not going to provide them anything really right now
Sources of gear kind of exhausted now. It's a time and we rarely ever there's a last time
I would like to do the check on this and when we've seen bantaz pops two bosses before the finale
It's been a long time. It probably was sepulcher
I'm thinking of it was probably all the way back in sepulcher when we actually saw the bantaz rooms used
this early because remember here we've still got multiple days of raiding left in the EU
before the US reset is coming on Tuesday so it's an early play but the guilds have recognized it.
Was it as calculated it? We want your Vantas used long before you get to Queen Ansaric
or it's they plan for the second reset and thought it's okay they can use their Vantas here.
Do you want some good news? Always. Before two deaths on wipe nine of the day
21 million DPS. Now that was lost, yeah. That's with us, but that is also including, I mean
lost is 40 seconds long, right? So that's including a minute and 10 seconds of non-losted time.
If we move up to three deaths, obviously things become a little bit more tricky because
we are expecting one death around here. You know, now it's coming back to life. It's
a totemic revival, still 19.7 million damage. So we are above the damage threshold
for the first two minutes of the fight. Things do get tricky as the fight goes on. Have a
look at some of the other pulls as well that we have done this morning. We'll jump over
to say this 67% up to two deaths, 21 million. Things with the loss at early doors are looking
rather to be consistent. The question is whether they can maintain that obviously
through phase two, through phase three, but for now, pretty happy with where Ekko
are in terms of DPS.
Yep, and cleanly into phase two again.
Now, Echo not known for their consistency.
It's never been one of their strengths,
but we'll be lucky to see them get through this
without deaths if they do have one.
They have got a combat res and their players dropping low.
And you can see those assignments
of who's getting the blazes.
The game plan here, of course,
is the big blaze is coming at the end,
is to get everybody topped
for that last big blast of damage.
It's coming in two, one.
Now, there it comes.
Boom!
On everyone.
Now, we are again at 67,
So 666 in a second. There it is.
So DPS is seemingly pretty rigid there.
They're pushing as hard as they can.
All right, phase two.
Game phase back on. We start again.
Get it right. So let's not try any...
Okay, we're getting respawn for sure.
There it is. Get that shield up.
That's nice.
That's really good positioning.
Queensborough is gonna go out onto these people
that have the Nether Phantoms coming underneath them.
Jinji falling a little bit low,
but he's topped up in time.
Now going down as well.
We'll have to look out for that Tankbuster.
Flex did die.
I got clipped by a ball there.
Trying to come back into the middle.
So, Flex is down, combat rare's up,
but you kind of want to be saving that for your tank
along so those Anks now will see
with those Nevers put in good position,
the Phantom's charge across,
and we lose four more players.
That's where they need to fix it now.
That's okay, they keep getting there.
It's important they just keep getting there,
but again, consistency not one of Echo's strengths
when it comes to these kind of fights.
Neither for anybody.
It's not because they're sloppy guys,
It's also because of the hardware fighters.
So it's more of a case of when you're doing full send
like this that requires absolute precision.
We saw it in that last, not this pull before,
slightly out of position pull pull,
slightly out of position shade.
That's it, it all scuffs up.
Especially when so much of this fight is mapped out
using the weak aura,
is using the positioning that they have been used.
As soon as something's, you know,
10 yards out of position,
eight yards out of position,
you're absolutely screwed.
There's just no way for you to recover that
unless you pull something on the fly.
They're trying to minimize the calling and audible portions of the fight, right?
It's very much on rails as much as a fight like this can be on rails and everyone's just trying to get all that DPS out
through the battle, but so far I'm quite liking the one tank strap. Assuming people don't die, it seems to be working.
Yeah, I'm excited. Not the first time they've been here, but it's one, you know, don't die strategy.
It's been an occurrence that comes up in the race to the world first in the hardest of the hardest conditions,
and that is right where we are as we're just over the halfway line
yeah dude uh i know you have to leave us some fight i'm like i said to you i think it says
like it'll be dead by the time you go it won't
like i think next friday is the latest i can go or maybe i can leave on saturday if i really push
it but i it'll be so tight you're saying can we get you to cast on the train yeah i get you
Go on calling in from the World's Deaths, like, hey guys, yeah, a medic here, on the League of Legends World Championship.
I can't wait to start one first.
And they're pulling some swags up, just going to make it work.
I have two other castles with me on those deaths, so they can talk for the majority of it, and I just come in for the team fight.
I'll have to tune in if your head keeps going.
Looking over at you, let your phone just sneak a little bit to see what's going, but we hope we get the kill as well, because obviously a great addition to the team.
I hope you've enjoyed yourself so far.
It's been a lot of fun.
I really enjoyed it.
I mean, you've got to do your job.
Yeah, I mean, she's quite nice most of the time.
Yeah, but she's not.
Yeah, when you get her in the classroom afterwards
and she just starts whipping you a new one.
Right.
It's not that incredible.
They don't know.
They don't know that the vicious, nasty side
when it comes out, it's...
It's the applause.
Well, it's all in our contracts now
to not talk about it.
Because it's the only reason she would come to the race
is as long as we don't mention that, right?
Because it'd be a PR disaster for her attitude.
Yeah, it really would.
really wouldn't be scary.
That positivity is a bit scary.
If you like that, you can try it.
Yeah, you really can.
We want to point out, of course,
you guys are nearly very close.
Hit that $15,000 mark for the RC Rumble,
the next charity goal.
We're raising money for games for love
over the course of this race to world first.
An amazing cause that is providing entertainment
to children who are trapped in hospital
with awful illnesses and diseases
they can't get out,
they miss out on their childhood entirely.
Can you imagine your childhood
without the ability to just play some games
and take your mind of it,
that distraction therapy to get through it?
Also interact with your friends, right?
The abilities of playing games with friends,
go on, play some overcooked, play some Diablo,
I don't know what they're playing Minecraft.
What do kids play these days?
Games like that, probably, right?
Roblox.
Forkknife, Roblox, that's so fun.
My kids are playing Forkknife.
Yeah, they got their V-Box out.
Oh, they're hardcore.
Yeah.
Yeah, my kids are hardcore Forkknife.
That's understandable.
Alongside that,
Games for Love provides internships and scholarships
for those children after they get out of hospital,
helping them catch up, helping them find positions in STEM fields.
Every dollar you donate is the equivalent to one child helped by Games for Love.
So we really appreciate it.
Already over 13,500 children will be impacted by all the donations that have come in this week.
And we hope to give you some entertainment for your donations as well.
15K is the RC Rumble, as you say.
We have who's castes at anyway, hopefully coming up later today as well.
And alongside that, if we get to 40K, I'm getting a tattoo.
Jit's getting a tattoo, Nagura is getting a tattoo as well, and Preach, I'm pretty sure
it said he would get a tattoo if he also gets a puppy.
Actually, my wife has said that, she also does not get to the side, so the answer is no.
You did say you'd eat a spicy chip at some point though, sir.
I'm not putting anything else in my mouth.
Yeah, but remember when I came into your room while you were streaming, and there's
a clip of it, and I said, hey, are you cool eating something spicy for charity,
and you said yes.
That was ages ago though.
That was like three days ago.
No, it's too early.
You have to do it now.
I'm not expecting you to do it now,
but at some point during today.
I've got a dinner date tonight.
I can't, like I'm busy.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, what about lunchtime?
I'm friends with you.
I've got a stream.
Oh, you've got a stream?
No, you can do it on your stream, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
My days are full of books.
Oh, interesting, interesting, interesting.
Yeah, they're trying to make sure.
Sounds very much like someone trying to get out
of an agreement he made to the children.
What?
There wasn't a charity goal for you to eat that shit.
It was part of our charity goal at 12 and a half K and I said I came in and I said would you eat something spicy?
Actually, I said would you put something spicy in your mouth for charity and you said sure?
Someone will find the clip. I'm trusting you chat. It sounds like she's not getting there. It was about two days ago now.
I still have some people falling in P1
So these are much more just practice pools than expected
PB's and even if you get a PB at this point like all it is is about tuning damage numbers
If you're getting to you know the final phase with 10% damage left you can move some cooldowns around you can see if you can
E-count some extra damage maybe cut a healer as we've been talking about
Yep, which is good with three dead. Yep
Just shows waxy war life and Jinji are not pulling their way. Yeah hard trolling on the damage there
Really hard trolling. Yeah, but that's okay. They gotta keep going because it's what the problem
They need to check now the survivability in the space
Remember this is where they've been wiping when everyone's been alive so they need to whatever little tweak they do
They need to make sure they can live through this so this is why they're carrying on
They know they're not going to kill it
But they need to make sure that process is in place and is going to work and they did survive
But this is the bit this is a war players last time
Let's have a look
Oh nice beam so quite low remember 10% is the threshold for death basically on this boss usually obviously
obviously 0% of the threshold for death, unless you have something like a cheat death mechanic.
But here, if you fall below 10%, Kevesa will teleport behind you, say nothing personal
kid, and try and assassinate you.
Yeah, that's like a bit of a league champion either.
Yeah, it sounds like a league champion.
It's like Zed, death mark.
Yeah, you get absolutely trot.
Oh, they're pushing on here, this is okay.
Is that just your impression of all league mechanics?
You get absolutely trucked, or you do the absolute trucking?
Those are the two.
Classically I play an AD AP carry in the jungle an AD AP carry in the jungle impressive. Yeah, so I get it done John Rambo. They call me
I just want to see you top us again on us now Mike
Yeah, there's the goal. I wish that was related to anything the game related, but it's not no
I mean AD and AP are two things. Yeah, I know in the game
And that's why I look together synergistically changing the matter and then I dive in the jungle John Rambo style
There's traps yeah, and then I'm out there lurking
Noring away, and then I got the blue buff and then I just take it home. Yeah take it home
Give it dinner seduce it take it to bed. That's what we do with our blue buffs there
then not call it in the morning.
You know the way I roll.
Wipe out the curtains, go home.
Blue buff now a slot.
After you get baron, or after baron spawns,
go to everyone on your team.
Oh really? What, zone wide?
Everyone on your team gets a blue buff.
Usually you have to be like a hooked in.
Yeah, well that's if you use before baron.
I don't know why I hunked there.
I put my blue buff strategy.
I'm going to get close.
I'm going to get real in there.
I love that rocky behind
Again John Lambo, yep
It is before 9 a.m. In the morning and this is where we are it's not everywhere else about the Australians are here
Yeah, they're not doing it sweet evening
Australians known for their love of blue buffs
Hey, they don't call it been chicken for nothing. You know what I'm saying
John Brambo Sydney Opera House been chicken. I'll rock and roll
I love it.
Sundays, right?
Redbuff approved.
But if you know the lanes, it's kind of like a Persona game as long as you give the right
gift.
Yeah.
Redbuff will flip on you in a heartbeat.
Just trying to seduce everyone and start you valiant, you pick who you are.
You know I've never played it.
Oh, you should.
It looks too relaxed for me.
I live my life on 13.
Yes.
I need to shoot something really quickly.
So it is very relaxed until you get the spreadsheets out.
And then you're mim-maxing, but it's also a very fun game to play with chat, because
you can name them after pigs.
Okay, an idea is spot on.
Yeah, exactly.
You have pigs, you have cows, you have chickens.
You get to choose who's the...
Cluck, cluck, cluck.
What does the cluck-cluck do?
No, it's just the cluck-cluck-cluck.
It's just the sound of a chicken.
I didn't say anything out there.
Oh, I definitely heard something.
I think that's blue enough.
Yeah, production each of my audio.
Yeah, that was a little bit of peaking there, I think.
Into the future of the stream.
I'm not sure if I'd name my audience after animals unless they can do things
Do we have a slaughterhouse?
No
Sadly you can't kill them. I don't think.
Yeah, there's probably a mod
There's probably a mod where you can do that
Frostpunk might be more your style
Oh, yeah, Frostpunk was bad. Yeah, it didn't go well.
There's two coming out soon as well.
Yeah, and they just added Twitch integration.
Oh, yeah, because I think they did get the feedback one of the greatest things for streamers during Frostpunk
so you could name all the individuals after them and tell stories that would die, they would cheat on each other and have kids.
And then we looked at VODs for us, but it was like, no, because it's more populist now, a lot more city scale.
So we were like, oh, I don't know. Okay, we've added switcher to the equation.
So we'll see what comes of that as we move on here.
And they're getting a smoother pull. I'm never going to be consistent with what they're saying.
That's the thing, we're kind of expecting to come in midway through phase 2 of this boss with the seriousness, you know?
If they can get there, it's like, ooh, little bit of hope, little bit of expectation, but until that point,
it's always fair and lovable.
You know, some people are going to die if they get through that, cool, we'll then get serious about it, but until then,
Sam and Lasagna, what are your thoughts?
I didn't mind it, and I'm always, honestly, the Sam Lasagna was not that bad.
I don't think most people tried it, they heard of what it was.
Mm-hmm, and then just didn't have it because it was called southern lasagna. It's understandable, right?
It's so understandable, but I was like I'm really hungry
It was made by a chef. Yep. I'm gonna try it and it was fine. Yeah, it was fine. It was different, but it was fine
It was totally edible. It was okay. Yeah, it wasn't you know, it wasn't what we've been eating here
But the food here is not saying I've got out of order it like I've been hunting down a place that will make it
that's not been the case. So let's see what's going on here.
Ryzen has gone down. They have got the combat res available for
Ryzen. It's not ideal, but you can still heal in that angel form.
It could also maybe run in the tunnel. You can see hopeful out
here. All the majors doing absolute max range to provide as
much room for their friends as possible. He's got a little bit
spicy there at the end. Yeah, we have an anchor. We have
One combat res but with a healer down not looking good, but again a loo ahead of the DPS again
There are a percentage ahead of their best they came out of that 66
Which is before 66. Yeah, which is great
That's what we're looking for. Obviously you don't want to be using the youngest as well
So you need to save those for the tank later on that's how we are at one tanking this boss
Apparently someone was on you it was awful and this
I don't think you have it.
I can hear a bunch of mowing about it, I've never tried it.
It's happened in the last race, the one first, yes.
No, not the last one.
Where's the one before?
It was at Sappel.
There was Raz.
The problem was, right, I actually felt bad for the,
they were catered, right?
From these places for the food here.
I know we've got to talk about the food here a lot,
but it's a big deal, like, because you have to
get everybody not miserable with food,
and you don't want everybody eating pizza all the time
falling asleep and stuff like that.
True.
But we were there for so long,
because that was the whole understanding.
Oh yeah, like three and a half weeks.
at that point.
Well people started complaining because the food was recycling and the guys were like,
we don't, what do you want, right?
You guys have been fed by us every day three meals a day for three weeks now and we're
kind of running out of ideas to keep giving you and you all have little complaints because
at that point, a lot of people, if you're not like open to trying a lot of things,
little things start to annoy you and they kept coming back.
I remember Logock in particular was like, so you stop giving me mushrooms, I don't
like mushrooms, can I have something about mushrooms?
and then for the next three meals they all had mushrooms in
it's like what are you doing?
All these little things started to grate
and they tried new things and one of them lost some of the
Xamia. Yeah, I think people also
you forget that cooking for yourself is not
like cooking for 20 people or 30 people is not the same
as cooking for yourself 30 times. You can't just do the
same thing. Like not cafeteria. If it wasn't what's the word
I'm looking for? Catered food. Catered food is
Doing it at that scale is a lot trickier than just making, oh I'm just going to make 20 chicken lasagnas.
Well you say this isn't good. I feel it's a learning moment for our makers.
I think that was the weak aura again.
Yep, well, if one in five pulls are screwed by the weak aura, is that an acceptable cost?
No. Just go where you need to go.
I think if you were...
We're saving afterwards.
Yeah, it's a defend me from getting stabbed.
The problem with rescuing you afterwards is what if I drag you into something by accident?
There's nothing there. Bring me to the middle. Bring me to the edge, so I get the shield for my
Queen's Bane and zoom back. Does a rescue stop you from getting stabbed? If you hit 10%.
It won't stop you getting stabbed because you're still below the threshold. One of the reasons we
haven't really seen a Discipline Priest which is usually kind of mandatory. It's been changing
a little bit over time, but they are more mitigation based, but if you're health,
it doesn't matter how big a shield you have, it's your HP is about 10% and you're dead anyway.
So that's no good.
It's like Pyke Hortons and League.
Exactly!
Lord's Shields, yeah.
Right?
And that's why I was playing AD.
Yeah.
AD.
Oh, that's more lethality.
Well, I mean, you know that, but if you come with an AD
into that aspect of it, then you just surprise the enemy.
That is true.
You would very much surprise the enemy because it's a bad build.
Ha ha ha, holy god.
And I would expect you to have good builds because of how adept you are at computer games.
As long as I can copy the build from some website.
Yeah, this is my strat as well.
And you're fine.
I'm good at playing the game and understanding the game, but I'm not good at theory crafting
in any way, shape, or form. It's the same with magic. I will find a good deck and I'll
play it well, ish, but I can't make the deck. My brain just doesn't work like that.
There's a level of investment there, I'm not willing to play.
It's too much time. It is, it's too much time. I could have played three of the
games at this point, and then I'll come back and you've done it.
It can't be three other people's builds.
And then I'll just do that, and that works.
How do you play it?
Cool, alright we'll do that.
Let's have fun.
A lot of people would argue that was Ekko on Druid Twister.
No, their strat was, they got baited the other way.
Yeah, they did.
Yeah, like nobody will ever believe them, so they aren't liquidised.
But their strategy was the Blood DK strategy, and then they saw Liquid doing something
else.
And I shouted at Roger about it, like, shout out it's a strong word, but I expressed
my opinion to Roger because he was like yeah we got baited you know because we
thought they were going the double blood DK from the start that's what they were
talking about and then they didn't okay sure liquid's doing this all right and
then they kind of like yeah it's not working it's not what we want to do it's
like so why didn't you do this so we got bait it's like you guys always always
played better when you do your own thing it's so true always this is how you've
won in the past is when you get ahead and it doesn't matter what liquid's
doing you already put your own strategy in place right we see that with endless
bosses that Echo has won. And it's like, why are you doing that? It's like, well, I mean,
if it's working, it's working. It didn't work, did it? That's why you have to swap back. And
now it looks like you just straight copied it. Not that they don't copy things. They
don't copy everything.
Oh yeah, everyone copies everything.
Of course they do. Why wouldn't you? But it's, it's one of those things that's
like, eh, it was a necessary wipeage time.
But that's also why I like the fact they've stuck to their layout of this
room. They're not following the liquid one, which is a little bit more short
hoppy, a little bit more on ad Libby. But I also like the fact the fact they're
sticking with the weak aura. I know it frustrates you, but it's their strategy and they must
stick with it. I mean, it's frustrating you as well.
It is because the players are getting annoyed and what I don't want is them to be like, it's
fun and games for like a few hours. And then it's not anymore because we had a really
good pole going like we're deep into the third phase. We're about to slam the boss
and the bloody weak aura was confusing for someone under the pressure and stress
of like, okay, we finally crossed this line because that's what this fight is going
to be is a slog to get that poll where they're in a good position. I don't want something
like a little stupid carry me week or to bugger it up to get them secure. Although at that
point it might be good shield. You know, there's not saying there's not benefits.
I understand. It's just the swings and roundabouts of the cost and benefit of how it actually
interacts with each string. I kind of hope someone adds in an ooh-woo please rescue
me chatbox to it. I'm surprised you haven't had that.
I think that would be very funny. Oh, they're all dragged and okay everyone's in position
Yeah, and then I had to push himself all the way back to his marker there
So that's a carry Jinji and then throw himself back to where he needed to go
But you do have that embrace to do that right?
You can dash to someone and then you could see I think he dashed to Jinji or someone else and then I just walked away from there
So first set of rifts are down
We'll see the charges in a couple of seconds time if everyone stay healthy through this that would be golden already
15% of the bosses HP has fallen one death mask through a little bit of raid damage now goes down
See the combat res as you say, but this means no one else can die for the next couple of minutes
Well swag's gone down as well swag's not listening to our calls. Yeah, please swag
We hear we said no one else can die then you died immediately. Hey attention
What's going on you get meleed? Yeah
With the portal going down there, but that's okay. It's gonna be a bit like this is this strut that
Liquid and Echo are doing is ultra risk, it is ridiculous, there is no margin for error
whatsoever and with a fight as delicate and as finely balanced as this one is, that means
it's the one in a hundred pulls we're looking for here, both guilds are looking for it but
they can do it and that's what they need, as long as they know it's doable, they'll
go and they'll make it happen.
Are we already fully Vantus?
I didn't check earlier on.
Looks like it, yes sir.
Which icon are we looking at for that?
I believe the new orange for this expansion is the new orange one.
A little orange one, okay.
The new orange boy.
There's a few orange boys up there.
Top right.
Second across.
Okay.
I believe so.
That would be wrong.
I have some banters.
I have banters.
They've had us all banters.
Oh, sure.
Splits, but I didn't pay attention.
I mean, that's fine.
It's more of a, I'm still learning the UI, and I know there'll be a lot of people
at home watching who have no idea what 90% of those debuffs are and buffs are on
the top right corner, right?
Yeah, we should explain Vantas providing a versatility buff to the whole raid, bit more damage, a little less damage taken
Obviously, individually, it's not a huge deal, but when you multiply it raid wide, it's a massive deal
It's usually, the idea of the Vantas Rune, since it came into the game, is that if your guild is like, this is the boss we're planning to kill this week
Because most guilds aren't planning to clear the raid we want, it's like, this is our progress point, this is where we're working on and it's hard for us
We want every advanced you can get you can use a Vantas room which will give you this bonus against one specific boss
For the rest of the week, so you can't like Vantas this boss and that's next one
I'd just be flasking this is one bonus that you can apply to your guild which should enable you in theory to overcome
Mistakes a little bit better a little bit less chance of dying
You're a little bit more damage and then obviously you're gonna kill that boss
You're gonna collect some gear and then the next reset you won't need to ban to six
you'll have all this bonus gear and then you can move on to the next one. Yeah, you can banter to the next boss
and provide a little leg up on that boss that you're working on. Now typically, these guilds do not want to be banter-synced
until the last boss. At all, right? If you look at Razageth, you look at Avaris, you look at all the Sarkarath,
you look at all those bosses, they didn't banter-synced until they got to that last boss, then they all send it
because why would we progress the last boss without banter-synced rune? But they figured it out and I think Blizzard has done
exact same things like they totally designed this boss to be Vantist in week one and so the guilds
have recognised that that's why we're down to one tank to get more damage in and they obviously the
versatility will help with the lack of healers this all seems to have been calculated very heavily
by Blizzard and so the Vantises are being sent against this boss because either that or they
just threw a bunch of numbers out and hoped it was close to the kill threshold yeah I don't
think so you're like yeet them against the wall it's like seven and a half billion yeah
This looks very, very specific.
Oh, it's incredibly specific.
It's definitely something calculated by Blizzard.
Now, I love it.
I love how close it is to the wire.
It's very much a, you have to be in prime form
with prime gear, with every possible bonus given to you
to kill this boss.
And I think bosses like that really stand out
in the collective memory as well.
Yeah, we talk about Holandris a lot
as being the unexpected boss that just trashed them right now we've had to kind of like
that we're coming up to we're killing boss six of eight check my watch like so
the boss and we're already banter already over 200 poles you know this is
shaping up to be the most difficult raid we've ever had of course we could
get absolutely trolled in the next two bosses to the easy but I really doubt
that I'm very much doubt that the guys know this is very likely to go to
second reset, certainly for Ansarac, where we still don't really know what even happens at that fight.
Alright, in Silkencourt, the most footage we got was about 30 seconds from PTR. Obviously,
these players played it without footage being recorded, but I was watching, I think, Drapnaus
Guides, and he was like, yeah, so I'm just going to loop the content behind me here. I'll talk
about the boss, but all we saw were the first 30 seconds because we kept dying. You have these
marks of paranoia, marks of rage on Mythic, where you can't touch each other, but you
You also have to pick up moats from the other side of the raid
But also if you pick up three of them you just do a huge amount of raid damage and kill yourself basically
So it's going to be a very difficult fight
But we have to get there first and still 20% left on kiresa for echo to clear liquid
I have had a few more pulls. I don't think they've increased their PB
I think they've had about seven pulls since I last looked and half an hour ago
But they will be slowing down with it being midnight there
Yeah, it depends. It's always a weird call is like when do you push for the do you push that extra time for the kill?
Is it worth it on this boss?
For either liquid or echo the answer is no because we've still got a ways to go right like so we're on boss six
This this race is far far from over regardless of if it dies for liquid now or it dies for echo shortly
We're nowhere near the end of the finish line
So like just heavily disrupting the sleep patterns or doing anything like that is just not worth it right now
You want to keep your team nice and stable if they feel that they it's literally gonna die next book might be worth it
Echo out there yet, but it's really kind of hard to tell we need to see some phase 3's that like we see
We've already seen them have to tweak things in phase 2 a little bit with this new setup
And that seems to be working last time we saw the clean and cleanish entry into phase 2
They actually get better with the charges. Let's give it a little recap of what's happening here for people like what?
Why is this boss so hard?
Why is liquid on boss 6 with like 260 poles and echoes on 134 so you can see these little portals that drop on players
These are gonna leave these shades behind now look at the ones on the right hand side near blue and orange
You see that marked in red and there's also the purple ones got a red outline
I'm talking about the shades in the portals. Those are your death marks
Now those need to be going through the boss. Three of them have to go through the boss in total
because the boss has stacks that need to be removed before the intermission and every one of those red
outlined adds that goes through the boss with that charge you just saw will remove one of those stacks.
Now you'll see this aura that's appeared in the center right there says boss stacks too.
So that means two of them went through the boss. Two stacks have been removed from the boss,
from the shroud but also gives the boss a temporary for each stack 10% damage buff
so two stacks 20% damage buff coming onto the boss right now they do need to
get rid of the remaining stacks which is going to be happening shortly here so
now it doesn't matter the boss only has one stack left so they can send
everything through the boss because you can see it's going to go just to one
you can see the weaker has appeared now because it only had one remaining
Here's the twist. If they put three death marks through the boss in one go, that temporary
10% damage buff is permanent for the rest of the fight, so you want to avoid that as
much as humanly possible, right? You do not want that to happen.
So I actually think it's a 30% buff.
I think it's 10% per stack.
Correct.
So they've sent three through and she gets 30% damage for the rest of the fight.
Then we have the intermission after the first phase here. You are dodging those lines
on the floor. We use the word blazes for them off of Fireac, which was a boss a couple of,
well, one tier ago. And then you have the pizza sizes. So you step to the side of the pizza sizes,
they will alternate between the quadrants of the floor. Every couple of rotations, you get one
of these blazes as well. And then everyone gets one on the last rotation of the intermission.
We get through the intermission and we rinse and repeat. We do the same thing this time,
though. There are four death masks that have to go through the boss rather than three. So we'll
were sent two and then two and in the final phase after another intermission there will
be five so you send two and then three buffing the boss at the last possible moment.
Yeah, that's under the finale of the fight you have to apply that permanent damage buff
to the boss.
It also goes further than that we saw yesterday that's not good.
That's not where you want this to be, it was the weaker way, yep.
If the weaker way messes up one pull out of every pull.
That was a really good pull they were ahead again on the damage.
I don't really want to do a refresher on what their DPS was, they were at 65 then, so they've
managed to find an entire percent and on a boss with this many billions of health that is a lot.
But we did see yesterday because Azmedic rightly pointed out so in the first phase it only has
three of these death marks shroud to remove which is you know the 30 percent. In the second
phase it's four and then in the final phase it's five which and as you only have two charges
that means your first one you want to do two that means you get a temporary damage buff
because it's not three but the last one you have to send three through which will give the boss that
permanent damage buff also if they accidentally send more through it will just go to like 40 and 50
percent and be permanent anything above three every every extra stack they give to the boss will be
an extra 10 damage so really really really bad if that happens but that is how that is uh
that is the mechanic they're dealing with here you have to send these red outlined adds through
the boss to get rid of the shroud but you get on the last one as you said if the boss
something at one shroud stack left you can send everything through it because it can only gain
one stack max anyway uh so that is the strategy but what it does mean is the strategy they're using
can be done in every single phase it'll work fine yeah in phase one with the three they take one
off and then they all go through they get two or they can do two first there's a manner in the
next one they do two and then they send all through but it's only two left so it gets two
and the final one same again do two and then the last one they send everything through and that
that will give the boss the three stacks which is permanent to the end of the fight.
How are they looking?
They are looking pretty good so I'm once again looking off for ignoring everything after three
player deaths right? I think it's a good cutoff. We'll have a look at yesterday's 20% pull so
three player deaths happened quite late into that pull about four and a half minutes
but we had 17 million DPS at that point. Today we had three deaths at two minutes 40
two minutes 50 seconds, but at 18.878 million DPS. So still a little bit short of where we want to be,
but much more consistent than we were at the start of the day if we have a look at say
pool number four of the day. Three player deaths a minute and a half earlier than that,
but we were doing a little bit more damage. Yeah, that's probably the blood
rescue there being a bit more relevant. And also of course when the cooldowns come back
the two-minute classes in the three minutes making the return as you know
anything about World of Warcraft DPS is all multiplicative so everything that
is thrown into those cooldown windows dramatically changes your damage and
then you kind of like taper off in a miserable nightmare until you until
later on. Interesting. Wex just died straight away. Yeah but doesn't take it.
Yeah, that was the end totem that was prepared for Robin there. So what they're
What we're actually doing is sacrificing the tank, we are one tanking, they're doing that
intentionally to slot another DPS into the fight, that is, preferable, again it was something
that they were doing on the PTR, it became very apparent that you could one tank it,
it was, you know, there was a way to do that, some guilds were doing that already, so
it was always on the cards, and certainly at this point I don't think they can drop
another healer, they may change comp again though, this has been a puzzle, all the
through like wiggling it around like how do we reshape this how do we get this what needs to come in
we've seen canyx in on his moon kins we've seen double rogue we've seen double hunter we've now got
rep palli they cut their summons the narcolees the narcolees has arrived he is playing oh he's
actually changed his name on detail so yeah it's real classic on the left yeah exactly they've
swapped around to have more evokas evokas doing a certain amount of output hps which is you
you can see on the healing meter there is when they just need to blast the raid in a very small
area especially they are able to do this huge huge engulf and massively heal the raid to just
straight up hbs and of course frago now is aug doing his rescue into the right place that we call
a sounding good there we are this is the pull we call it worse this is the on the first
attempt let's go i believe a new echo you can do it only 90 percent of the boss left to go
They could they can't do it. They've pulled off crazier things than this. It's when it will happen
I don't know it's also the jump
I think like although this boss could die on any pull a
20% jump is a big jump
Especially with the nerves and the anxiety that will come off you get below that 20% like if everyone's alive going into p3
There's just a huge pump of adrenaline into your system
everyone get still alive through the first rotation through that first cycle here in phase one boss down to 81%
We already saw Robin being brought back up with that uncle. He's fallen again
And we will use the combat res on him to bring him back from beyond the grave
Yeah, we've got a slice through the boss give it what one stack
They see boss that's one so a 10% damage buff applied to the boss now
So anything that hits you right now is going to hit even harder
Just to rub salt in the wound. There's some very very mean things that happen here
Oh a little bit of a bad portal there at colathana. I think I don't know what caused that
The portal in the middle that's a tank portal, so it spawns out of Cavesa
So it's quite possible they wanted to leave it there anyway, and that was just a little bit too close
I don't think it was the week over. No
Because that was off the charges. I know you were trying to bait me into saying the weak aura, but that was the charges there, Mike.
I'm fully banana up today. I'm a big fan. I am full of banana.
Sassy a boy.
Relaxing in my hammock with my bananas. That's what I like to be.
Now we go through the intermission, which they've been getting better at.
It's still extremely terrifying, especially with all these blaze lines going off.
Did lose swag in there as they come out again.
They're going to reset it though because nothing changes that's the thing about this fight is
if you can do phase one you can do phase three and you can do everything in between.
You dodge a wrench, you dodge a ball and that is the strat here that is what they're going for it's true right?
It's true yeah it's straight up true simple just dip dive dodge dive and dodge yeah and
portal and grip and do oh perfecto is looking uh because he perfecto decided to push his screen
there is like just get me in dude I'll kill this boss yeah he actually was
destroying this boss yesterday Kush actually kind of funny Kush steps out
he's like I need one item yeah off the first boss of heroic that's it so can
I pop out for five minutes and go and grab this item so they're like sure we'll
put a great way group together for you go and do that and then perfect okay
minute did way more damage I think and then push came into the room so just
I'm not gonna invite him back now.
Yeah.
Is there having you best at the time?
I think I went to like 30%.
He was like, so I stepped up for five minutes
and they just not invite me back.
And he was just, he was just studying my room
while I was streaming, I don't know what to do.
A debate we did have yesterday
was removing a second Hunter
because there was Soul
and there was another Hunter in yesterday, I think show.
And we've added in another warrior.
Are there warriors?
Yeah.
That's because is it rallying cry?
Your rallying cry is great.
Yes, so there's 10% effective HP on everyone, and you get a proportional increase in your current HP.
So having two of them do hit diminishing returns, because you're really using the first one of the biggest overlap,
and then the second one has to be the second biggest overlap, so it's not quite as powerful, but it's just more healing.
It's more effective HP across the entirety of the raid, so we will see if that is more effective for Echo to date.
There's now going down once again, he'll be resed with the Unk, and it always shocks me to see a tank die.
I'm always like, well, it's not what you want to happen,
but it's expected, guys.
You can race it.
Oh, Chris going down, he just has the anch, though.
He probably will get up at the stage.
Oh, maybe not actually.
Oh, yeah, it might just be a reset here.
Lots of pings going down.
Yep.
One place.
Yep.
No good.
One place.
Oh, they have to use the anch.
They've sent it.
Okay, cool.
And, Chris.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Just dodge, mate.
I don't see what the issue is, just don't get hit.
I'm going to send the act, dudes, I'm coming in like Indiana Jones.
Da, da, da, da.
I was going to make a big rescue place.
More Georgia to the jungle than Indiana Jones.
A little bit, yeah.
Back straight into that tree.
You better watch out, Klick, since Dagger's
coming to get you that Reaper Passive as well doing work
through these fights.
Although we're not dying to Reaper as much as we
are dying to some of the other effects.
When I looked at yesterday, I think Queensbane
was topping the list, just killing people
with that dot damage and then of course you have to watch out for the dark viscera which
are the orbs for some reason. It kind of implies that it's a body part or something.
It's a little bit, yep.
What body part would an orb like that be? I can't think of anything that spherical, that
succulent.
It's got to be a rotten liver or something.
Livers aren't circles mate.
There's nothing that's perfect spherical besides nuts and I think you're trying to bait
them into eyeballs.
Eyeballs?
Eyeballs.
Balls aren't perfectly spherical are they?
Eyeballs aren't perfect, yeah balls aren't but eyeballs are, I mean they're
closer, they're slightly elongated at the back. The eyeballs actually, as you grow they extend
more at the back, which allows you to go from having glasses when you're young to when you get to
about 40, so about 10 years ago for you. You don't need glasses anymore and then you go into needing
reading glasses. So at this point I should need new eyeballs in about two years then. Yeah we
We can get you some.
Can we?
Yeah.
I would love Prostetic Beasts.
I would do it for a mythic beast.
Yeah, all right, charity goal for 14,000 new eyeballs.
Nice.
Yes, easy.
We'll get some Prostetic Cool Eyes
that I can zoom in with and stuff.
And they do like some weird expanding contract.
Do you want color changing as well?
RGB.
Think it up with like hue or something, yeah.
Yeah, it could be RGB eyes.
That would freak you.
That would be really freaky.
There's actually a dude, I saw a post recently,
he's lost a nine.
prosthetic actually has a torch in it. That's cool. It's really cool. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine
that coming at you at night. Yeah, he's doing a video walking around in the dark. It's like
you ever see Ghostbusters 2 with the actors in the movie. He had the torch eyes look around
the room and it's exactly like that. It's really very cool. Oh, it's terrifying. Yeah.
Very cool at the same time. Yeah, you would have to be very careful going out and demonstrating
this power to the world because people will be like I'm just gonna stab that yeah but that's
Manchester that is Manchester I don't like it I'm gonna stab it let's just make that go away
Greg's stab it oh but I'll go yeah no way I had like they were 12 I think I have about eight of
them geez and John and the rest yeah yeah yeah but that's because that's part of the tide that we
we have to pay to Jordan, you know.
10% of anything we bring into the office
is donated at the Shrine of Jordan.
And her desk is such a mess as well with all the gifts.
It looks like an Aztec kingdom.
But you gotta be on a good side, you know?
If you're on a bad side, bad things happen.
I feel like it's good.
There's a reason Dratnos isn't here anymore, guys.
That's why.
Even though there's two and one in the shower,
and he loves his two and one.
He does love his two and one.
He loves his two and one,
and we've got two and one in the hotel showers.
Ah, Paul and Roborodraat is missing out, teaching to be American.
Oh, imagine.
Imagine being American this day and age.
2024?
Bad times.
No, all good.
Off we go.
Come on, Echo!
We won it.
Yep.
I want to see it in my shift.
I've got it if you kill so far, so that's definitely for us.
I haven't had to kill at all.
I've only had one day of mythic frog.
It's miserable, right?
Yeah.
Have you left a shift and then they've killed it
immediately after yet?
food twister. Yeah, that is. That's the misery. You came in and I had been told it would be
dead by dinner. I was on the shift. It was not dead by dinner. Never believed that.
Was it Roger who told you that? Yeah, of course it was. Yeah, never believed Roger.
He keeps basing me into thinking they're doing splits as well. Every time he sees me
now, he's like, oh, medic, I hear your split, your sessions coming up. So we're
just going to do some splits for the next four hours. Yeah, just wait. It's even
worse for that now. Yeah, don't trust a word just wait tells you. I did talk
describe this morning and asked him if there was any splits on the horizon and he said there are splits
but I don't want to do them which I think is the first time I have ever heard that from Skype.
Yeah, his brain he doesn't want to do them. He feels he needs to. Yeah, it's more of a needs
must. At this point they are doing splits if they're needed outside of splits or M plus I think
is the general strategy. Mirrors has gone home I think. I mean, I can't blame him.
Avalachute, Wolf's gone as well.
Yeah, they've just gone.
Can't access to their playtapes.
Can't access to their playtapes.
It's fine now.
It's not fine.
It's okay.
It's not fine at all.
It's not fine.
This fight is too scary for this.
Oh, we still have a combat res.
Now it has been anchored once.
Moving into the second set of rifts.
So you can see that's the tank rift.
Yeah, I like this.
In the middle there.
It's more uptime.
They've found a little optimization.
A little bit more uptime.
All good.
Now what we're lucky to see is one, obviously, no deaths
as they go into submission which in itself is extraordinarily hard with all these blaze lines,
piece of slices and the entire raid getting blaze at the end but also to see if they have pushed
that damage a bit more because every every percentage matters from the pull to the death here
in order to finish that across that finish line. It's nice memes who gets caught with a double
blaze there that's really unfortunate. Zazze is the same he's been aren't in the middle of it
because he's needed and Zazze is needed during this phase because it's a tremendous amount of
I'm feeling because it's huge burst of damages coming now.
So back up, they do have one combat rest available.
They didn't want to hold that though.
We've used both our unks, I think, right?
So we need to save that to make sure
that we can bring that up after the tank buster.
It was about 65 and a half percent.
Yeah, they're getting better.
Even more damage coming out.
Here's the assassination, which is oddly named,
considering it's just those nether portals going down
and there is an ability where Kvesa assassinates you.
I want to talk to the Blizzard Devs
about their naming conventions after this, I think.
Not sure you should call that creature.
They're always edgy?
Did you say always edgy?
Yeah, but I don't mind you being edgy.
Assassination is a good name for an ability in this fight,
but maybe Kavit is the name for the assassination,
rather than for anything else.
There'll be none of that.
No, absolutely not.
It's just throw the names out of the source.
What about Edge Slice?
Edge Slice would be a good one.
Into woven blades.
There was a league champion who's ultimate is called nice.
good dodging. It's called supreme display of talent, which is a great thing to have to
show up for five times in a game.
Surely it's STT.
No, we don't shorten things and make the legends bad.
No.
You can say the whole thing.
Why?
It sounds cool.
Yeah, we're padding casting.
I'm padding casting.
The more words, the better the caster, that's what I learned.
Yeah, you got paper words.
Yeah.
Don't give him my tears, please. Don't give him my tears.
Yeah, that would be dope. I'm in. I'm watching.
You and I just yapping for 12 hours a day.
I don't understand much, right?
Oh, they would...
It's actually down, nice room's down, flex to follow, swag's already fallen, so it was
clean-ish.
We had a new best of, as of around 65.5% coming out of the... out of P1, out of, oh, intermission
one, I guess, but likely to see a reset in a moment.
We'll go back into this intermission, though you might as well dance around this, see
how far we can get through intermission two.
It's a little bit easier to position because there's no one in front of you in certain
positions now because everyone's dead but you do get more blazes because the boss is going to put out
a set amount of blazes no matter how many people are still alive in the raid. Yeah I think that
should be something that's stress to you guys is you might think oh there's like less people up so
you've got more room for the blazes and things like that. Eh not really. So the boss is going
to put out approximately like 50 blazes total and just because people die the boss is still
going to put out 50 blazes total and it just keeps like slamming you and slamming you and
and slamming you which is even worse in this fight obviously because if you dip below some
percent health you're gonna die. So instead of getting hit with one blaze and then the
healer's having a little bit of time to top you back up it just hits you over and over
again which means the healers have to like spot you even more than normal instead of
being able to use like some more AoE healing to bring everybody up. So it's actually way
way worse. Everything about this fight is designed that everybody must be alive
at the end. That is the goal and they've gone out of their way to think of every
single way to make sure that happens and if you don't do that it gets just worse
and worse and worse the whole way down. But the new best of it today with the one-tank play
for Echo, first time we've seen it in submission two and not bad for the first hour of raiding as well.
Yeah, pretty happy with where they are right now. I'm surprised we're not having a being
time break time, which is usually what happens after Echo get a new...
Is it being a clock?
It's not being a clock, they're not taking a break. I saw the eat feast pop up on the screen.
I think they're just going to go into another poll, although this is a slightly elongated
timer between the two poles.
They're rising up to something I had to do in the most
entire trip. Are we changing something?
Keyboard changes.
Is that just a laptop that I was just
going to be posted?
Maybe I saw I saw Grim holding something, but it may
have been Grim's laptop that he had on his hand.
There. Do we have any news production on exactly
what's happening?
They're not listening to us.
Yeah, while they're checking that they'll do
we're going to give shout out to display.
We've got so we are after this after the
Next is Prince, spider time, baby!
Spider time.
It's spider time.
Get this, can you hold that for me?
I can hold it.
You can hold that thing.
Do you not have walls at your house?
I do have walls, but some people don't.
Yeah, do you live it in a field?
I love fields.
Do you live in a field?
No problem, watch this.
Now you can put your display on a stand.
Wanna put it on the windowsill and not a wall?
Slap it on, easy.
Yeah, you can put it on a stand.
Sat next to people you don't wanna talk to.
Look at that!
barrier. Look at that. Very Japanese styling. Easy game. You could actually build a whole
wall out of them if you so desired. You can if you can flip them around. Put it the other
way. So we've got display stands, but of course some multiple displays on a huge discount
in the chat. Slap it on. Put it sideways. Annoy people. Maybe move the bottom thing
so it actually sits on when you slap it on. What you want to do is you want to
get it like this so you can do three dimensional stuff. Okay. And then you can carry it
Like a sign out on the street. This is the three-dimensional stuff. You're doing want to tell people about spiders. Ahoy sailor
Do you know of team spider and what it could bring to you? No, no spiders out at sea
I'm afraid tell me more about team spider team spiders stole away on board eat your grain will drink all your room
Spiders at sea spiders to eat grain that sounds amazing
Spider is an absolute wallop of a fellow isn't it? Look at it. Yes, and he's cute
Did he think he got that girthy butt cheek?
Off!
That dropped it.
I will say, moving it around as much as Mike is moving it around, perhaps not the most
advisable way to use your display.
Err, don't listen to him.
Yep.
By doing this!
Listen to the girthy spiders!
Block him off!
I can't see anything on the right side of the room anymore!
What's happening over there?
What a mystery!
It's invisible to me!
Jokes aside though, if you don't own any walls or you do live in a field,
or perhaps in the back of the truck and you want to decorate it up, you can do that with
a new display stand but obviously the displays are awesome.
I mean loads of them, we've got crab daddies, we've got some really cool ones and also
you can use our code to get the actual official World of Warcraft ones, they've got a Hallofal,
they've got a really nice Liria one, they've got a good one which is Anduin for our
Anduin Liria and Jane I think, something like that as well.
So it works because of the things, but we've got some very cool ones.
You have some personalised ones as well don't you?
I do.
Yeah.
Don't get loads.
them here because you know it's not my show but I added in the little you know I
subtly promoted it for you then said don't get it because I know chat will do
the opposite of anything we say but yes big shout out to display they've been a
long-term sponsor with echo we're obviously a bit of fun here but this is
really handy if you want to actually put some designs on them also yeah if
you're if you're renting and they don't want you sticking things on the
walls it is very minimally intrusive what you have to do to put a
display up you stick on a bit of metal and you can it's magnetic right so you
can just stick it on but some renters rental places don't like you doing that
so you can just buy a stand a little metal thing and move it around and of
course the main advantage is as always you can swap them yeah that's the point
so if you like you like a few of them and you want to change up your design or
whatever apparently just what them that's my left by the way Sam but
we can you are never reaching that far yeah the best thing is
I do it all the time is you are able to you're ready to do this
Okay, all right, so it's like hey the ladies are coming over I'm gonna put out my spiders rule. Oh
No, what happening now? Well?
I've decided that I want to see a scenic vista, so I'm gonna switch in my city of echoes
Oh my god, you know what's happening? I've just suddenly become a weeb
This one etched by the way
Look at my noodles well, that's something we do in private breach. Wow. Yes
But then what happened I've got scuba diving oh god crabs
Crabs! Crabs are there to feed the crabs but then suddenly my mother appeared and I didn't want to explain why I have a picture of crabs on
And here's a portrait of her
This one
And this is my sad dad but then my friend was coming over and he's that guy who's always always winning at Mortal Kombat so I told him to
Get ducked
Yep
Right, had to do that but then of course I was enjoying the war within and I felt like in your nice lovely session
Oh
Well the point is there you can swap them
Yeah, you can swap them to some very cool ones
Ah, it's Moody Anduin
He has a nose job apparently in this photo
Checking, can't confirm
But it's Moody Anduin before it becomes Rockstar Anduin
That's a very cool one sir
Oh no, it's production
Whenever we try and sell products
Please sell, sell the products guys
Please
Just throw them around the floor
Yes, remind them of how good our products good
So, Xclam display, but legit, memes aside,
is the highest discount possible on the entire website.
So, guys, legitimately, this is fine.
It is fine.
This is fine.
Code Echo.
Do you wanna chuck us those across?
Yes.
Code Echo is the play.
Also, like, think about it.
Look at the storage for this, right?
I know we've just, we've, you know,
shield these a little bit,
but they are very good products.
Imagine if I tried to store 10 posters in my home.
This is gonna take up so much more room than this.
Now they do have a little bit of weight to them, but if they're just on the floor, that's the magic.
I use a plastic box.
Oh, interesting.
It's very nice.
To protect your grain or just for keeping these in.
Uh, well, both.
Oh, makes sense.
I don't understand why anything should have one purpose.
Yeah.
Mix it.
Such as this.
Multi-perfect could be used as a weapon if you really wanted this out.
It's the way you were holding that.
That's enough of that segment.
Let's move on to pulls.
No pulls happening.
I'm gonna put these under here so we can use them again in the future, which is the power of this plate
Yeah, you can hide this somewhere. Oh, I see. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, multi-purpose every step
There we are. You can hide that and we'll be getting back into pools in a moment's time
We hope I don't know if there was a specific reason behind this break, but there often isn't and we just
Yeah, I just take break our grim which are that's what happened before the
key for dream that we had grim was chatting to rice and assuming maybe a
week or a thing or just the I'm prepping something always broke by the PC could
have broken his keyboard probably not using the course K70 then I'm sure what
he's using actually if I think he is using the course K70 well then it is
user error I'm sure it is yeah a hundred percent probably using some
Bismarck setup that he's done there because he's always so stoic in his
gameplay every single time he's he never reacts to anything unless you call him out for having an
FPS POV yeah which I did at dinner and suddenly stared at me like he went to kill me I was like
you do you play with your camera near the floor man like we can't see anything it's the best way
you're doing it I'm like I'm not saying it's not I'm just saying I'm not watching it right
you don't need to target your heels all you have to do is dodge the swirlies yeah the
important thing look at this balanced compa looking at here probably getting ready for
Silkencourt, right? Yeah, it's gonna be a 12 12 boomkins
Guardian druid and three restos who's flexing the background next to cannex there
I didn't see someone was hulking up. I
Saw it can we rewind have we got a replay?
Do you have an action replay of that play includes?
No, just oh my god guys. Oh company production said that
They have removed cannex from the replay functionality because he's so turbo bin.
Yeah, I feel very sorry for him. We will remember you cannex. We will remember you, but cannex
have been taken off the replay functionality in favor of... who do we add on?
We add it on hopeful. Replaced by a trial, by a trial cannex. By a trial.
how low you've fallen canyx you rose so high you flew too close to the sun and now look at you
that burnt chicken you might as well be tofu I mean there was a good track record of things with
wings flying too close to the sun and getting burnt historically bad idea yeah it's not
curious and Daedalus are looking down and you canyx wondering why you did that
That's definitely where that comes from.
Daedalus is in Hades.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
Quite so much.
I think he's in Hades 2.
Oh yeah, he is when you get on the boat.
I haven't played a huge amount of Hades 2 because I'm waiting for release.
Correct.
That is the play.
Like that series though.
Supergiant really cooked with that series.
Absolutely.
One of the best games ever.
soundtracks all time. It is top tier soundtracks all time.
And character design. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Yeah, the dog?
The dog?
Yeah, the dog versus 100% what I'm saying. Big snuggles with that popper.
And boldy. I love boldy.
There was a strap for a while in speedrunning because you for a while
we did mostly IGT, so in-game timer, right? And it pauses when you go
into story rooms. There was min-maxing to the point where depending
on what gift you got from Baldi, you would finish the run on it.
Because you could get increased cast damage.
So some of them are like the ambivalence bonus, which is nothing.
But you can get increased cast damage.
And it's like, oh, 8%.
This is enough for me to push the run into a next layer.
And it will get me like three seconds at the end.
So what about a full heat load?
Yeah, that was so impressive.
That's disgusting.
Well, you know what else would be impressive to run through?
This is Roger's treasure trove giveaway.
It has been opened up.
You can vote with your channel points.
I'm pretty sure we've already broken the overlay.
Maybe. We broke it yesterday.
We broke it twice yesterday.
Send it to people. So this is your channel points.
They are worth nothing other than getting into
Rodgers pants and finding what treasures lurk within.
So send your channel points that you've just been earning
by being here and watching along with Echo.
You'll see them in the corner. If you just send them a hit 2 million.
We have so many stacks of gifts to give away to you.
Everything from Mythic Raid Carry by Echo,
which will give you a mount as well.
The juicy goodness pets keyboards mice headsets displays merch
Elgato products we gave away some stream decks the other day because
It's very impressive and I think people will go for crabs today
I want to know how much it cost of these envelopes printer because they're classy
They are very cool
Actually, can I can we find out Sam because I have to have my wedding envelopes printed soon
And I think a team crab and a team by the way engaged. Yeah
I'm getting married in May to a person
to a person yeah I was surprised as well yeah I thought I was gonna have to you know go down some
other routes for that but we're not in Denmark so I can't get married to a horse are you getting uh
are you having entrance music I'm thinking about it at the moment I had Pantera as well yeah I came
out like a wrestler dude I was thinking I want the LEC back yeah which is a classic but also
I'm not sure I really want to come out to a song based around my work you know that's a little
a little bit. It's fine. You're right. It's a little epic. Okay.
They're definitely over a million. You know, you can come in the back and just say death
in the background as I go up to get married. Are you going to do standard suit and suit
with a boot? Yeah. Pastel green suit sage is the idea with a lilac or lavender because
Sage and Lavender are colours so.
Yes.
Are our colours.
Are our, are our, are our.
Are you trying to say our colours?
No, because ours is the type.
It's are, they are our colours.
Our.
No, it's not our.
That's our.
Yeah, exactly.
You can choose where the mistake is made.
Is it between our and our, are and are.
Okay, the tracker is full bean.
Yeah, it's full canyx.
It's done, we've hit two million.
Oh
Where so that the number is correct the purple is not correct
Look I have heard that is a perfectly adequate tracker
Okay, that tracker has no issues at all. That is the normal length for a tracker to be in this situation Mike
That's what my fiance tells me
Yeah, trust us somebody's recently gone to extension development. This is pretty good
Is that one of those spam emails you get?
Can we help you with your extended development?
Feeling it adequate on the Twitch?
Yeah, anything I've asked him like this, it's like,
yeah, I think it's working.
Yeah, the number read good.
There we are, 2 million achieved.
Congratulations, chat.
You can now vote in the poll for either Team Crab
or Team Spider.
And whoever wins that poll will be
selected from on the envelopes behind us.
You don't need to type anything in chat.
In fact, it's probably in emote mode, because you degenerates cannot control yourselves.
That is... I mean, we're no better.
I mean, we get paid to do it. They're just watching.
They don't give us keyboards. We have to sit here with our hands like this.
We're not allowed to play with the buttons. The crabs are winning!
Yes!
Oh, that is the first time I've seen a crab victory at Rodgers Treasure Troll.
Well played team. So, it's not there yet.
Evolutionarily crabs are superior crabs are freaky awful creatures. Yes, but they've developed from like three different evolutionary trees
Totally independently. It's called castanization
Everything reverts to crab humans eventually will like to become crabs. Yeah, we get armor then. Yeah, you get an exoskeleton
You know just scuttle around and then we oh, okay, and then we start to sound like druggers
I'm just so shitty.
I miss my boy.
The crabs have patty pulps.
I don't know what it is.
Spiders have them.
They're the little like...
I'm trying to pretend I don't know what it is.
I think they're called patty pulps.
They're little mandible things where they like...
Oh, the nomus.
Yeah, side nomus.
So I think the spiders have them as well.
They're just like...
They're tiny little patty pulps.
They're tasty, I know that.
What, the crabs?
Oh, crabs, yeah.
I'm not a patty pulp munchie, but they're...
Garlic butter.
Alright, you've gone to your happy place.
Well, I need Julia to step up.
Yeah, come on.
Crap.
Where's my butter crab?
Come on, Julia.
Jesus.
There's a river just across the way now.
Go and get us some crab.
Get it started.
In the middle of Cologne.
I'm sure that will be very fresh.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Delicious.
Oh, they have prawns this day, partly.
Yeah, they're good.
I didn't have them.
Yeah, you were out, weren't you?
I was out.
Prawns and quinoa.
Are we closing? Are we crabbing it?
Production?
We are crabbing it, do you want to send it?
Well, I will fan, as most people do when they meet you, haha.
And then you can, you can select the envelope.
Is it two or one?
Envelope.
We are ruining the English language today.
Envelope?
Envelope, you said.
I did say envelope.
It's one.
OK, there we are.
All right.
Crack it open.
Trust, guys.
I will never let you down.
This is going to be a good one.
Make sure your Switch DMs are open, by the way.
Oh, we can't get you.
easy game mega mouse pad. Oh let's go yeah I know your mouse pads are high scoff
I've seen some pictures. I think you might have enjoyed it. Thanks. I thought we were doing it together.
That's what I was hoping for. Take the photo. I behold the XXL mouse pad. Yeah you have to do the
awkward smile and thumbs up or something like that. I think we do have a couple of the
mouse pads off towards the left of your right. This is going to get real weird. Are you ready?
Yeah, that's so big.
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
Estimation mark crab in the chat to enter.
You only need to vote once.
Oh, I need to type it in once if you type it in more than once.
There is a possibility you will be auto timed out by the mod of Kate.
Yeah.
I think that's the quad XL one.
Can I have news from production with how big the like is it a quad XL,
which is the xxl?
That's the four XL.
Okay, so those two of the four excels that you have on right now
The spider one is the xxl. So this is the size that you will be winning. Oh
We'll be traveler. I see you've had a harsh journey through the
The forests of
Through the world of mouse pads to bring you the greatness. Are you a mouse yourself? It's I am indeed the mouse traveler
But here we go. That's the XXL one.
I finally skinned the mouse for this pad.
It's great mouse skin as well.
Some of the highest quality you'll find.
Genuine Papalapher or whatever.
That's a Papalapher, I think.
I don't know if spiders have fur,
but we can go with that.
It is super high quality.
It is very high quality, very smooth.
I really like stitching on the sides of my mouse pad.
Oh yes, every one of the mouse pads we have is stitched up.
But that's what you want, my friend.
I'm sure you touched the items are open,
getting there the team spider of course you can pick these up and if you do
want a quad mouse mat that you can use not only as a cape to become the
superhero that you always were the superhero of craps but also of hobbyists
especially if you are doing some big hobby stuff these mouse pads so I use
them for these mega ones are really really good and also serve as a skirt
plus cape combo if you're playing magic gathering and you don't want to
have four separate play mats two of these opposite sides of the table nice
It's really nice and easy. Super non slip, really useful for any hobby crafts that you're doing to protect your services and the non slip action is really good.
And you can just cover your whole desk in one as well if you want to. Yeah, you can. Which is really nice because you have infinite mouse passports.
Yeah, anything can move anywhere with wireless keyboards, wireless mouse, very easy to position wherever you want.
I actually like this design, I like this one.
Can we get the Strix in music please guys?
You're a serenade, you're gonna have to do this at your wedding, you know that right?
What are you dancing to at your wedding?
We haven't chosen yet.
Tricky.
But also my fiancé doesn't really, neither of us are big dancers, to be honest.
But I think you have to have at least 30 seconds of your dancing to something.
This was my our take at our wedding is it's our wedding. That's true
That yeah, really that's how we took it. It was good. So we
Everybody uses the big dinner we took everyone to the Indian we booked our
Oh, that is he had a curry and it was amazing. That does actually sound really good. It was awesome
I was like this so good. It's set of it being like
Yeah, I would nothing wrong with that but it was it's just us. It's like that's not what we want for our wedding
We had a big picture with like shotguns and stuff, we were seeing super troopers, but it spread it on!
So I had that with all the best men, and then we had entrance music, and then we went for a quarry.
Nice.
Yeah, it was a good old day.
Yeah, I like it.
I'm trying to plan to have a magic of the gathering zone, where we can just place a magic of the gathering in the reception.
And then I wanted my fiance's wheel into pottery, so I wanted to have a pottery wheel, and she's told me...
That was sick!
I think it would be super sick, but apparently it gets really messy.
Right, but you've got aprons...
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Let people know if you want to do it, get changed.
Like, I am not interested in everybody
being in an uncomfortable suit all day.
Exactly.
I don't care if it's chill for pitches, whatever.
But like, after just one pretty shot of t-shirt,
it's a good night.
Yeah, come chill.
Let's just eat some food together, have some drinks
together, enjoy the night.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
It should be very nice.
Great for taxes.
It's literally just a financial scheme.
No, you're like the life's loofer.
I love you, cutie.
Please don't be listening to this man.
That's not what I was looking for.
It's all a real estate scam.
And on that bombshell, maybe we should listen in with Wave
for a couple of minutes as I get another coffee.
Nope.
Nope.
Yep.
Can you hear him doing it?
I mean, it's going to be insane quality, of course.
Give me a sec.
This screenshot here, this is halfway through the suck,
yeah?
Did you like release your stasis earlier there?
We were like late on night in the night.
Did you like not have angles?
This is exactly when the Dagger guys come in again.
I just help bother them myself.
By the...
I'm in now.
This was on top too.
I can do it over here.
Oh, I was watching you.
Holding.
Looks like you've released your stasis like a second after the left hand that
questions if we can reach it a little bit earlier
or we make sure that we don't die during the lift
I hear Mastin here
under my necks over here and he has both
so obviously
Don't forget Mastin, you can blast when you're blasting
Banana's voice is expected
This is actually such a cheat code having FPS
Holy fuck
Both, wrong one, I think
Yep
You make it
Perfect
Wrong one
Not perfect
Excellent guys
It's so fucking beautiful.
I can send up to there.
Now the center of mind is dirty.
It's so fucking beautiful.
I can send up to there.
Oh, the banana.
Banana just bent a little bit.
Beautiful.
It's like good code.
I've bent a little bit sideways, I think.
It has ruined my one hour no death streak.
Pay up now.
pay up now I didn't die it ruined your 100% email my streak as well that's
fair
it's hopeless you need a point on it have you seen his people over there I see it
you told me to I don't know what you sneaked in with the others
This is insane.
All nations are the same.
All nations are the same.
80% of all time.
Also why the Cush just randomly kitten shot me?
I didn't do anything.
I was like, there was a hundred.
I was like, there was a hundred.
I was like, there was a hundred.
I was like, there was a hundred.
I'm gonna make DMs.
He was checking out Cush.
No, you were dirty.
I mean isn't the archers using whatever the tool and just looking at what's best
Just do whatever is best
Yeah, it's it's really
Just go bro, I
You need to wait 45 now
I need a minute from 5 seconds to now.
Wait, you popped on this?
Min 5, Min 5.
Okay, pull 60 now.
I mean, I just popped evil.
No, it won't be ready then, yeah?
No, we need another at this time.
Yeah, another pull 60 now.
Ay, caramba.
Ay, ay, ay, ay.
But 55, 55.
Okay, you can save those 5 seconds.
We need to get Merus back in for the mint.
That's fine.
Merus doing the big sleep.
Can't, can't.
Actually we can rotate.
Merus gets some practice.
I can take a nap.
Launch nap.
Yeah, the big sleep.
We all got the problems after weeks.
Yeah, the double, the two teams.
Yeah, I mean, I think that Stine is doing whatever is correct.
He's blasting currently.
Probably a good idea to do.
Yeah, I'll frag the Volk and then I'll show you about that guy.
Yeah, he's buffing the rogues.
That's why he's down at the bottom.
There's one guy in here.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Pulling.
I hope they just remove Orca.
I can't like this anymore.
I see a red mage going in already.
I can't have a dangerous close.
I can't have a dangerous close.
I'll be playing.
I'll be playing.
I'm walking in by mistake.
Are you pulling?
After 60 seconds, we need your full ass.
Amazing.
Anana, respect.
I always need your pulse, so I get more damage.
Nice.
That's so base.
One could say I'm actually a fucking beauty. Why is the text reminder really freaking out?
I don't know wait it don't skit so much on anyone else five going extra out
Remember below extra out. Yeah
A word marker charges coming
Little word marker
Watching the daggers and moving out
There's no angle guys. No angle. Press them quick. Press them quick. Press them quick. We can play
I
No
Just walk against it a bit maybe
All right in the end maybe in the end middle charges coming middle charges win a middle
Watching your feet again and moving on
Watching feet and moving on
And I watch the orbs
Roger be a reading break
I don't know, I'm going to be too explicit, huh?
Fucking base positions.
Are you everyone now?
I'm at the ZF here, so...
Is it coming?
Nine, three, two, one, check.
Perfect.
You got it.
Magnificent.
You will need to bubble-ton, and now you'll need to take the toilet with you.
Yeah, I've got a contract.
Banana risk coming.
I've got a contract.
Nice means we'll do it.
We don't have to act or anything.
They live here so we don't reset and middle charges coming middle ones watch
it yeah watching feet and moving out I'm reserving again after the rift so I
guess yeah if you play some if you play some I think if you roll taunt so I
I think we can do it maybe.
Yeah, we're trying to dodge that.
Yeah, he's going bro.
Oh.
We can play this, we can play this, we can play this.
You should go your cringe.
Okay.
This is very less alive.
The race to world first here.
We see another good pull from Echo.
A little bit cleaner going into P2, but a few mistakes made in that second phase
means that everyone will end up wiping,
but it's much more consistent than we were seeing at the start of the day.
It's a super new best pull for us today with the new one-tank strategy. That's what they need more and more
They need to keep chipping away at the princesses HP
Not too bad. We obviously can't really get a DPS gauge with so many dead
We're not gonna get an accurate one. We will keep our people's out. We're looking for 66
65 coming out of phase one with all alive and everything ready to go
But if they're doing that, we know they're in a good place
So we're keeping our people's on that and then we'll move to phase two phase three
But we are a God pull territory ladies and gentlemen
That's what we're looking for is that we need the stars to align a little bit as to both guilds in order to bring this bad boy down
I can see liquid 263
Attempts at the Nexus princess and this boss has pushed them in every possible direction
It really has the changes to strategy changes to comp
Seeing the Vantus runes coming out from both the guilds as well
They know that this is the hurdle to overcome on this first reset of mythic here for the Narubar palace tier
The question is will we see echo overcome it today because as you say we are in godpool territory
We're in a 10% jump territory
We're possibly even in a 20% jump and kill territory if everyone stays alive with the addition of that extra DPS
And the removal of a tank it is just that challenge
it's just that hurdle of making sure everyone is alive and that's a tricky thing to do.
It's super hard, like everything about this mean is a word I keep going back to,
but when you really consider how these mechanics work, it is mean. It is mean,
it is nasty, it is unforgiving in every single aspect of it, it is certainly,
even the first gauge. I mean, if you think back to just three days ago when they took one look
at the HP, they obviously they checked Brute Twister and then they checked this and both
both guilds just looked so, nope.
And there's just moved on to Bruteswester
immediately without thought.
I mean, I think many people, including ourselves,
thought, well, that HP is clearly like a placeholder,
or something, and Blizzard doesn't even give them
really a choice of where to go,
which we actually thought was a little silly.
It's like, okay, we're supposed to have a choice
of which boss to go for here,
but realistically they haven't.
Actually they did.
They just didn't realize it at that time.
It's like, no, no, no, you totally can,
because this is gonna be about this.
It's only been nerfed with a slight HP from its original 777 values, now 7.5 in the billions that is of HP.
They did buff it at one point and then redid the math over BuzzHQ in Anaheim and then came back with this.
So that, yep, you can do it and they are right.
Like we do know this fight is do a bull.
It is just going to push these guys to the absolute limit which is wiki, wacky considering that we still have two more bosses to go
And from all accounts when we came into this race,
one thing we knew was Silicon Court
was going to be the living nightmare.
Oh, unfortunately, I have a nice music tripping below.
We do want to give a shout out though.
They are doing some splits, an all-gratts splits.
So if you've sat there and you've not done your all-grats yet,
check Echo in the group finder.
They're looking for bodies to join them in that adventure.
I'm not sure who it's for.
It might be, oh, it's for MIRRES.
Yeah, it's a tank trinket, I think,
from all-grats that can drop.
So it seems like that is what MIRRES is looking for,
currently fighting and Sarek is this oh he's doing the story mode I think can we
just jump like between poles can we quickly jump to Merz this point of
view yeah I think he's doing story mode I mean I this is okay I did story mode
yesterday I think you did it as well yep I'm a little sad you didn't get to
go and jump on the platforms I think a lot of a lot of casual players who
don't have any intention of rating this is a wonderful addition to the
game for the people like I just hate playing with other players and would have liked to
have done the jumping to the platforms and that doesn't happen unfortunately you do you
do just stand here and the I don't think you can die yeah it it seems very difficult because
you can basically get hit by everything and not really take a huge advantage yeah I think
you have to jump off the platform yourself you'd have to like run to the very edge
and leaf off to die in this which is fine it's not supposed to be for that so you
You can get the cutscene, you can get your quest complete, you do get a spark from doing it and you get some 619 gear.
619 craft a bit of gear, so you get the enchanted crest, I can't, enchanted runed crest I think,
which means you can craft a bit of 619 gear. Very powerful, very good for this point of the expansion if you aren't a mid-level raider.
I used it on my staff, on my Preservoker and it gave me a nice little jump in terms of HPS.
Sure. I haven't done my crafting yet. Every time I sit down to do it there's something else to do.
It is also a very convoluted process. You want a specific craft done, you want to make sure it's
highest tier it can be, you want to get certain enchants on it, you want to get certain embellishments
on it. There's a lot you have to do to make sure you are crafting something effectively.
Find someone in the general trash as well who has incantation or whatever you need for the
specific weapon or bit of gear you're crafting. So pretty convoluted, very expensive as well.
I think I spent about a hundred K on the Mets mine. So there was a concerted effort during Dragonfly to make crafting a
Side game. I think they've kind of achieved that. It's like the people who know how it works and are very invested in it
They are playing their own game this whole crafting game. They're playing that it's just the I think they've probably over done it a
Little bit with the guys who like I just want a weapon. Yeah
Like I just want to put it up on the thing you tell me how much it costs and then I get the
weapons. Exactly. Yeah, that's kind of I'm personally more of a preference of like a specific weapon
is the one you get crafted, which would be more TBC or a storm herald and things like that.
That is the weapon you want to get. It's easy enough for the communities to be like, okay,
you want this, you want that without all the extra stuff. So there's probably more tweaking
to be done there to make it a little bit more approachable. I think I've seen a lot of
threads from people who've come back for the war within Chris Metzen coming onto that stage
at BlizzCon and saying it's time to come home. We are working and we're doing things
we're doing this new thing the world soul saga and the next six years are very bright
for World of Warcraft and so far off to a great and stellar start. We've come back and like okay
so I've heard crafting is good it's like yeah it is good you get really powerful gear from it
it's awesome it's got all these cool little twists and enchants on it like okay how do I do it?
15 steps later. I had someone walk me through it I had an old guildie literally just get on
comes with me like just tell me what to do yeah Mitch was standing behind me the entire time and
every time I was like are you sure this is who I should send the private order to are you sure this
is how much I should be paying is this what I need to buy compared to POE though I go this is no
oh yeah this is no this is no I just farm chaos and then I get someone else to farm before me yeah
I just trade up yeah did trade league all day I've uh I've got a concerted effort at some
So you get in there and like I just want to craft an item like that. I'm happy with yeah a certain point
But it's like okay, so do we delve and get the fossils and then we come back and harvest this
But we need the like warlords influence
To make this happen and this 900 systems what pewee 2 is coming. It's not gonna be fresh
It's being good looking forward to that as well. I'm looking forward to seeing echo pull
This boss and kill it. Yeah, I this would be the dream
It's it's the dream that would put echo in such high spirits and in a good place
I imagine liquid have stopped for the other very late there
If this is one of those moments that we talk about in the race
When we're it when we're here in person like this is the day
And if they don't kill it, it's fine
Right, there's no issue if they don't kill it today
But this is the day where they can just put a huge wedge
Into the race and take that lead that they chase from day one
It's not going to be this pull.
Yeah, it doesn't look like it.
If you have a Combat Rez, Robin obviously using a lot of those through this battle because we are single tanking it.
So it looks like we're not going to bring up hopeful, but maybe it's just looking for a progression pull as well.
We are still sitting at 20% and anything below that will be very good for the Raiders this early in the morning.
Yeah, I mean, the best thing that can happen now is that they make it to enrage again.
That would be the best outcome they could possibly hope for in the next few pulls
two pulls is that they actually make it to enrage and like that's everything again.
They have done it before obviously, but with a new setup, it's one tank strat, if they
can make it to the end with Robin exactly where he needs to be, the healer's sorted,
they will get a nice boost of confidence is like, okay, we can do it, right?
Even though they know they can do it until you actually physically cross that line,
you don't have that feeling of sending it like, okay, let's get vicious, let's
get nasty.
DPS is still relatively on point now even with two dead coming through that phase at 66% HP
So they'll be looking to get that and you can just listen to scribe then as we were on our little break there
He was saying like okay, it's fine. Like we'll just swap some cooldowns around
It's not ideal
But we're still gonna keep going because we want that confidence booster for the raid that we're all set this works
Let's do it also testing of the week or all right. We saw that
bugging out a few times at the start of the day or being mismanaged was a
perhaps, but it seems to be working here. We'll see the positioning of these nether phantoms.
We want to get two of those death masks. Basically the red outline on the phantoms implies that it has a buff to give to Kvesa.
You want to get two of those through on the second phase. If three go through in a very short period of time, about 12 seconds,
Kvesa will be buffed by 30% damage for the rest of the fight. So you go two, and then you go two on this phase.
on the last phase you have to go 2 and 3 but you reduce the amount of time that she is completely
buffed for throughout the course of the battle. This is great actually, they're doing pretty
well right now. Well they're all going to die, you said it, yeah. Oh they are definitely
all going to die, that's fine but like in terms of how they're playing this is nice.
Well Velo just ticked below 10% there which means Mark for death was coming in, they're not
going to have the healer now for the intermission which is starting the second,
second intermission, but we are seeing second intermission more and more as the time ticks
on here in Cologne and they're moving forward. Here we go, entering, if they get through this,
which is a real if without Velo alive because that's a huge amount of HBS that's lost,
then we will be looking at the final, the final portal phase that needs to be dealt with
before the actual enrage hits. So we're going to try and hold together here. This is going
to be everybody to send every personal, every healthstone you have left. Get through this
because we want to see the end of the fight.
It's going to be really tricky as well.
You can see Velo still near the top of the meters,
second in healing done after being dead for basically an entire phase.
Clicks paid the price.
That's fine, yes, I'm going to kill one healer left.
There he goes.
There's the Ankh coming back.
Clicks will be joined to fight.
Thank you.
And there's no damage coming out right now.
So it's all the estimate to a cool-down on the murder.
It doesn't last forever.
If you stick around about low HP,
you are going to be in trouble.
So this is the final stage of the fight
Until the the actual negative intermission now pay attention to what actually happens here guys assuming they don't wipe shortly
Is this is where the boss has five stacks of shroud?
To get rid of so this is where he gets very very very mean because not only are they going to get rid of two in the charges
That are coming up in a second the next one they have to send three you can see nearly
Every single ad is marked in red. They are all red marked
Which means they're all the nasty death mask ones
Now there's the two. You see the two stacks on the boss. The next one is going to be all three and that means that 20% damage buff that you can see on the boss there is going to change the 30 because it's three stacks and it's going to be permanent.
And it's not going to be good.
That rift is going to be difficult to have to run against it. Looks like everyone is able to just stay out of it.
It's basically a one shot if you get pulled into those rifts. I think you can survive for a very short period of time.
Robin's dead, as you say, everything just charging all over the place and we are looking for a reset, maybe?
Maybe, or we're about to see the white. There's a death mask.
Yeah, you're going to see what happens if you don't clear the shit. They've reset it, okay.
You're about to see. But a new best?
Yeah, for today.
To put up a spatter for today.
For today.
More consistently getting to that second phase, which is really important.
more consistently getting towards the end of it as well,
with more people alive.
The strategy of Unking now, or Robin,
as we have been calling him, because it's his name,
yeah, seems to be working.
It's just about finding those little movement changes,
those little positioning changes
that allow people to survive through the first couple
of phases so that we can invest so many resources
in making sure we bring back now.
What a story Robin's had, right?
So, Robin, obviously with a great history,
He has World First not only with Echo, many of them, but also with Liquid, played for them as a tank for a long time, he's played in the World First scene for ages, and then retired away, he was like, you know, I'm kind of done, I'm going to sunset myself and relax and focus on my mythic plus an MDI team and do all those things.
And then of course Andy replaced him, and having some issues coming into this tier, and then the bat signal went out, and Robin's like, okay, you're pulling me back in, you know, one last time, they just won't let me go.
All right, and then he arrives and now he's solo-ticking
Yep, the hardest boss of the raid so far
There you go now, yeah it's fine
No, that's what the Guardian do it, which is like
The one he didn't really want to play
And he's like, dude, what the hell bro?
I've now ended up here on my own and Miros is off doing story-move
Just hard chilling, he's actually doing nothing, Miros is just totally about chilling
Just relaxing right now, but Kush is very intently staring at something on his second monitor with nice memes there as well
I mean, it's a melee meme. They're probably laughing at a caster
Look at this, look at this idiot, he doesn't even need to stare at a melee from lasers
Put a moron on him, it's so easy, right?
But I see maybe Kush killed nice memes there. I mean maybe with an overlap or something
It's very tricky in melee there to keep everyone alive. There's so many diagonals coming out. So
I felt it was a judge to the faces, nice memes is laughing at him for screwing up and cushions
defending himself.
Yeah, because like, no it wasn't my fault, you see I had to move here because there was
another blaze coming across the side, you know?
What else should I do?
I don't know man, like what do you want me to tell you?
You didn't enter to spend me dashing to that exact position at that point, that's
kind of on you, nice memes.
Yeah, I'm going to shadow step, you know that, I'm actually using you as an anchor,
like that's what's going to happen bro.
Like don't blame me.
Perfecto looking on in despair, desperately wants to get in here, performed admirably well,
but what a testament this raid has been so far to the strength of Echo's roster.
I mean, in what world, ladies and gentlemen, are you benching Perfecto, Meeres, Wolf Disco?
In what world is your raid team like benching those players and saying we don't want you
on prog, right?
Like right now.
Of course they do want everybody in.
The roster is ridiculously strong for Echo right now, but no, those are the players
that are not even in yeah and part of that obviously is compositional right if you're playing one tank
one of now all mirrors has to sit out and it's now has the guardian druid fully stacked up alongside
that we want double warriors so perfecto has to take a seat we were running double roaks yesterday
for a little bit on this boss but the rallying cry too powerful i think it's called that in
yeah too powerful for echo in this battle we are getting ready it seems ready checks have
We've gone out, Fanna, waiting a second.
Now we see the Ticco green on the raid frames.
Hopefully, another pull is in the off-in.
It is.
Any pull could be a massive jump.
I think you're right.
We're going to see just an enormous jump in HP
of the boss going down.
They'll get that pull where one and two are clean.
And then they'll just slam boss in phase three.
That's likely to see what happens next.
Again, they are looking to hit that in rage again.
So I wouldn't be surprised at all
that in the next hour, hour and a half or so,
We see that 20% just suddenly drop by like 10 or maybe more percent
Yeah, down to where they need to be because they're just getting comfy and comfy and this fight involves so many micro management of tools and position
From the whole way through 10 seconds going in
We want to see them blast blasting. They are though the DP one of the most important aspects of this that's scraped and Roger
We'll be reminding others DPS do not let us down. I don't care if this takes another 100 pulls
I need you at peak performance and you should be
every single pull, looking for ways of increasing the damage, every single pull.
And we've seen that the first four pulls are coming out like 67 and now they're
coming out like 65 with you know a couple of people dead. We haven't actually, I
don't think we've seen, since they optimize a bit more medic, I don't think
we've seen them do a perfectly clean exit out of the first intermission.
No I think we're usually getting one death out of the first intermission but
that's cleaner than it was when we're getting four deaths in the first phase
right so it's those incremental improvements that we expect that we hope to see from echo today you
say the next hour I think this is the pull I think we're gonna see a drop down by five percent on
this pull now dying expected bringing back with the unclean mutt make sure he's not underneath
that 10 percent threshold for the Reaper dodge the daggers easy easy okay swag you let me down
mate you let me down probably got hit by a queen's bane you can never play by play phase one
because it's gonna be a nightmare. Yeah but I was I was really hoping we could
accelerate through the whole thing you know and then at the end it's both of us just screaming
at the screen. Oh god if I burn out on casting on the six boss we are in big trouble for what
comes after. Yeah but I'm leaving so I can burn out by you know Friday morning and then I just
have to cast Worlds and that's fine. I'm really curious I know this isn't relative as poor but
with a death so early we're not gonna see too much. Yeah and we'll jump back in if we get
below 40% or so. Yeah, here's how different it's been to seeing like these epic finals that you're
used to in League of Legends where it's kind of got a time period, you know the score and the game
is evolving very quickly. There's no like wipe go again. Yeah. So how has it been different for you
here from obviously your excessive casting experience? Yeah, I think it's a very different
vibe, much more podcasty, much more willing just to talk about random ship for like 30 minutes
and then come into a fight, right? Sometimes you talk to a whole pool and nothing happens,
you just keep talking about whatever you're talking about. The intensity is, it's interesting to say
that it's more focused because League has a huge amount of focused intense moments, but you're kind
of spreading your intensity out of a 30 minute period. Whereas here, the intensity jump from
we're talking about lasagna to the boss is dying is within 10 seconds, right? You really have to
turn on. So I haven't had too many of those pure intense moments. We had a couple of pools
yesterday on this that had got up to, you know, we had a 30% pool. You build it up a
a little bit but I haven't hit the peak that I would in League and I'm quite
enjoying how relaxed you can feel the rest of the time so yeah I think it's
important to we always try to tell castles when we come in it's like don't
don't know when to when to go when not to yeah because it can become exhausting
not only for us but for the audience as well yeah it's like okay
you know it's like it's too much we're gonna be here for a hundred
Like we get excited. In fact some of the bosses are nightmares. Like
Like Farak we couldn't get excited about potentially killing it's a 3% yeah, there was no way we were like we've got to stay chill
We're gonna relax because that boss can kill you in a matter of moments
Even at 3% is the final blazes that came out because they were so much worse than these ones. These are bad
But like the blazes there was so much worse
Especially with the orb carriers if one of them died it just instantly wiped the raid
Don't worry guys. That's coming up in Silicon Cots. Yeah, we will be seeing that immediate raid wide angle
coming up, but yeah, it's it can be
You got a controlled process. Yeah, I think if I if this was five years ago
I would not be the controlled one on the deck. I'll be all over the place
I used to be a lot more hyper all the time for everything, but
Experience comes and pays dividends. It seems and something else that's paid dividends is Perry
T W entering the giveaway because they managed to win the mouse pad
Congratulations, Perry underscore T W. You have a message in your twitch DMs
So make sure you are replying to that
Rogers Trevor treasure trove has well and truly been looted this morning and
It's great to give away free stuff. Gotta be honest always feels good
Hey, if we're here emptying Rogers pockets, you should be here emptying Rogers pockets
Otherwise we are legit taking a lot these prizes home with us
Yeah, I mean the thing is if you have the envelope in the bit of paper that's a legally binding contractor here
I'm just gonna take all of them at the end
I actually have a few saved underneath my desk that Sam doesn't know about so that's true. We could just yank these
Or I need to get some bots in the chat
They're just entering
preach one preach
new
preachy toes
Preachy sniffer all these kind of people preachy beans
beans, preachy hines, surprisingly the beans has been untouched for a couple of days. It's
been quite nice. There's a lot of people harassing my bean collection.
Oh really? Yeah. Do you enjoy it when people are sending donations saying, hey, preach
how are you doing with the beans? Do you enjoy the word?
Enjoy is a take. Do you have a favorite type of bean?
Black bean. Yeah. Big of a black bean. That's not for you.
No, no flex that act opens not for you and there's the reset coming out where that stage
We're also at the stage where I can read a few of these donations
We had a donation yesterday. Oh, is it this morning? No, this is yesterday from Alex's bean supplier
Have you told medic yet about the tale of Hellfire Citadel now? I feel that was for Alex specifically
Do you know a turn of Hellfire Citadel?
I did not play with Alex in Hellfire Citadel.
Well, I will remind Alex of that.
We had another one last night from...
Oh, sorry, yeah, it was Alex's theme tonight.
This one is Etherinell, who says,
You've got this in the bag, guys.
Major thanks to Echo, but also the casters in production
for this amazing entertainment heart,
much loved from Etherinell
and NetNeon in Sweden.
Big hearts to you guys.
Little sad we're not in Sweden this time.
It was a lovely country. I enjoyed our time in Sweden,
I'm very grateful for that $15 donation.
We have a $5 donation from Becky.
Last night he said, can we get some banana yoghurt to Roger Brown so the boss can die?
Which apparently is a battle of Dazaalor throwback.
Sorry.
Thank you anyway Becky.
I should talk about the monkey boss.
I can't remember his name, Gorg or Gong or something like that.
That is a very monkeyish name.
Yeah, monkey man.
Not a difficult boss thankfully.
Bailov donated $5.20 without a message.
Thank you very much for that Bailov.
Jace193 today, okay, that's the name that you know.
Donated $5.00.
Medic, if you really want Preach to eat something hot,
you need to make sure it's a dry heat.
Preach loves it when his food is as dry as possible.
They have a, a lot of people have a real problem
with my diet of simple foods.
Simple food that I just get out of the way
so I can get back to streaming and not leave them waiting for me while I have something excessive.
And apparently that's a problem.
So you don't like Source?
I don't mind Source, but like if I'm streaming, I have a real anxiety when I'm streaming of not being at the stream.
So I just grab some chicken or whatever and have a little chicken sandwich and carry on going, but that's apparently a big deal to the world.
I see nothing wrong with that.
Right.
I'm on your side in this case I think.
Preachers.
is being supplied donated a dollar and said hello preach let me know which brand beans you
want for the next month ASAP getting the shipment ready if I know the brands of beans you don't
know all the brands of beans who knows more than Heinz Branstad I do know Branstad that's a pickle
oh they have beans as well yeah that's what I know I did also miss Moritz who donated $10
and said hope this helps heart emoji it definitely does every dollar is a child helped
by games for love so every dollar you donate first it makes us do embarrassing things the next
donation goal is at 15 000 but on top of that we have scuff cosplay coming we have the the
portraits of the raiders we have tattoos happening there's a lot of cool stuff there's a cocktail
hour which is going to be a mixture of fun but also not so fun cocktails for the imbibers
of whom you will be one of them no however if i'm not here i'm just going to have to
to give that responsibility to someone else.
I will do it.
I am a qualified cocktail specialist.
Oh, you are actually.
I am legitimately a qualified cocktail specialist.
You might have to be the specialist.
I don't like them, but I can make them.
Yeah.
I don't enjoy them.
I want one with black pudding.
That's part of the goal here.
I have had black pudding for the first time.
Yeah.
It is very tasty.
It was lovely.
It's absolutely lovely.
The staple Cologne dishes actually really, really nice,
including the uncooked pork.
I just didn't fancy it last night in our traditional German bar that we were in some some dinner with some visitors who've come to say hi
And say hello while we are here in Germany. So both say hi and hello
They did say both they did yeah, and yeah, good morning the gates all of these they added in all the extras
Yeah, those are words. Yeah, interesting that good Morgan and good morning both have GM as their abbreviation
Yeah, they're just trolling right. Yeah, just didn't want to say in English way. I get it
Yeah. Yeah, I understand.
Well, we did lose Thana.
That's not where you want to see that again,
these random little tidbits of damages,
all it takes in this fight to just crew people.
I mean, these are the best players in the world.
And because you can only imagine how hard this fight is to live,
but they're going to be calling here zero.
Oh, they might keep it a good goal.
But obviously having a healer down
is not where you want to be with the intermission still
a little while away.
Yeah, you have to heal through all of this tick damage.
Every nether phantom on the field is ticking for waves of damage alongside that you have to dodge the charges
You have to dodge the queensbane queens get inputs a dot on you if it's applied to you have to dodge the orbs
And then you have these slices coming through the boss as well. You get hit by one of these
You're basically dead anyway. We'll see more waves of damage happening. Kivesa does damage as well
That's why we see Robin continuing to fall dodge the blades
Make sure you can avoid all of this incremental damage because especially with one healer down
You don't want to fall below that 10% if you do you die
and that obviously is not where you want to be in this fight. However we are
going to get to intermission two as those nether grips will fall off. Now can
we survive during the intermission? It's going to be really tough without that
super rough like we've lost healers mid intermission where they've already
kind of put out a lot of their burst. It will depend where their cooldowns are
lined up but yeah ginger down. You can see how many blazes as we said
earlier. The boss will not do less blazes. It's just going to blaze
plays you more. It doesn't adjust based on people being dead to somewhat free you up.
Blizzard has kind of thought of absolutely everything to make sure that this is a perfect
pull boss, which is strange at boss 6, but they're welcoming it. They know they can do
it. It's just going to take some real work. Thankfully they did leave the option to reset
the boss as well. And you can see Ryzen and Grimm back together again as way things
happen. All right, throw it at me. I can see donations are coming in. Okay. And
I know they're going to be troll ones so I'm reading them so I can not read the ones that are troll ones.
I am, I'm putting a stop.
No, you have to read all of them.
What's the rule?
I don't.
I don't. I mean you are raising money for literally
Yeah, they are giving money for sick children and you are denying them their right to be heard on air.
A little bit.
Hi Medic.
August here.
Here's five dollars for them kids.
Do you microwave your steak and keep your ketchup in the fridge?
This is something you do.
I heated steak once for my sandwich, because I could throw warm steak, it was in the microwave
for 30 seconds, cut to night before, and been left in the fridge, so I warmed it.
Did you put any liquid in with the steak?
Yeah, like drizzle of water, right?
Ah!
It's fine, it's 30 seconds to give it some heat, it's fine.
It's not fine, but it's acceptable.
It's fine.
Ketchup does not go in the fridge though.
Top shelf, brother.
Ketchup does not go in the fridge.
Ketchup does not go in the fridge.
It does not go in the fridge.
I don't...
it does no if it lives in the fridge that's because it's growing something
yeah have you guys never been anywhere on a holiday that ketchup is out all day and it's
fine yeah like on tables in the sun all day it's totally fine using up very nice beer space
by putting crab and team spider team fridge losers yeah team cupboard
represent if you're on team fridge you should just stop watching the stream why are you
I even saw some hot food, weird texture situation going on, right?
It's not really a texture situation, is it?
You get what I'm saying, though.
It's a temperature situation.
It's like a contrast to what's happening, right?
Although contrast is nice in food.
It is nice, but cold on a hot food.
Ketchup is basically a dessert with how much sugar there is in it anyway.
It's just, stop eating ketchup!
Stop doing that, right?
Make yourself a nice little...
This is what I'm going to say about this.
ketchup. No you drink it really don't you? No. I've seen the images. I know the dark web
has you just guzzling that ketchup that's why you want it warm. My kids have ketchup. Otherwise
you get brain freeze without much ketchup. My frozen ketchup. With my ice cubes of ketchup
that I put into my drink. My frozen ketchup bar. Don't microwave steaks don't keep ketchup
in the fridge that's what we're going for here. You can warm a steak. You can warm
mistake up in a frying pan 100% little saute that is way too much effort during
stream this is what I'm saying I literally left the stream I saw some
steak and threw it in through on some bread and had a steak sandwich that was
I want to point out this was two years ago what the donation that's very
impressive was two years ago they still bring it up happens hi Mike it's me
again to a glint fish. Medic!
Are anyone else who is casting who is not Mike?
It's me. He eats a dry sandwich that is quite literally chicken on cardboard
and a weird yoghurt. It's just fat free protein yoghurt.
It's not weird, okay. He also microwaves steaks and eggs and doesn't like bacon,
butter or coffee. Okay, so.
The microwave steak we have gone over, I think it was a foolish move, but I understand the
expeditiousness, the need for expeditiousness in that situation, I can forgive that.
Hedge up in the fridge? Never. Obviously. Although I think my fiancé put it in our fridge and
we've never had this conversation, so there you go QD, I don't like it.
Well, the engagement is off.
Yup, it's just over. What was the other one? The protein yoghurt, do you have that
as a dessert?
I just have it for lunch sometimes. It's just a yoghurt. That's the entirety of your lunch. Yeah, sometimes
You having any any carbs or anything without any sugary. Nope. Is there any sugar in it? Nope
More worried about your glucose stores and your glucagon. Still here. We're fine. I mean, yeah, you're still here, but come on
We're fine. We had a lot of fat to lose dude. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, okay
So you're going like the queso sort of strategy a little bit just it's it's fine
And then I have something a little bit more substantial before I go to the gym in the afternoon
I'm more worried about like you being hyperglycinic, but that's okay. If that's how you want to eat
I'm not going to judge you for eating. Thank you. What were the other things that have to judge you for?
Microwave scrambled eggs, which is disgusting. Actually, it's how a lot of restaurants do it,
whether you know it or not. A lot of restaurants might do it like that. That doesn't make it tasty.
It tastes exactly the same. If you've had them, you literally cannot tell.
Literally cannot tell. Do you put cream in that? Because most restaurants put butter in there.
Yes, you put butter in it. You put butter in that, but you have a low fat protein yogurt.
I'm sensing a bit of hypocrisy on this here, Mike!
Not really. I've never had this on stream, ever.
Yeah, but it's not about having it on stream.
I literally don't eat it. I'm just saying that you can make it that way. That was it.
Oh, that was the whole thing that you can't do?
That was literally the thing that stills being asked for.
You can do that.
Yeah, you can totally do that.
100%. I assume this was you eating it.
No.
Okay, well then, yeah, channel's wrong again.
We'll understate how angry people get over nothing.
Like where your ketchup is kept.
So they hold the scrunchies.
We are getting angry that people keep it in the fridge as well though, so...
Because they're idiots.
Yeah, they're real idiots.
What's the other thing?
The proof is everywhere.
It's like someone trying to convince me the sky is purple.
It's not.
Well...
Well, there was a fraction of the light through the atmosphere, it's changing.
The idea is, it could be my purple, but you're blue.
Oh, I do like that conversation.
Yeah, the stuff to eat.
What we told you was red, and what I see is red.
You might see as green.
Yeah, I think it would be my green, but yeah, anyway.
the other thing I have to judge you for. I don't drink coffee. See that I do judge you
for a little bit because how on earth do you get to the day? I tried coffee once I didn't
like it I never touched it since. Yeah I did that with wine but I still touch it quite a
lot. It's quite tasty. I can force it on myself. Yeah I just put it in it's an acquired taste
and you should acquire it. I see you I have seen you chugging a Red Bull at like
7 a.m. a couple of times. Yeah before the gym. I used to go very early. Why didn't
use a pre-workout I didn't bring any with me I love a good pre-workout where
you are just shaking between sets not because of the exercise because of the
matter caffeine is buzzing oh we just lost that's going into just take a
little tension they're about to do the second intermission the DPS is good but
yeah it's just for the park thank God cheers guys okay was there anything else
in that first message I have to judge you for that was it on that one so let's
go to the next one I do think you should try coffee because I think a lot
people who don't like coffee had bad coffee. What am I going to get out of it? I mean it
tastes good. Right, but... And you get the caffeine you would in a Red Bull and it's still sugar-free.
Right, but I just don't... I feel like I've lived this long without it and I'm okay. Sure, but you
lived this long like, no... What, I've looked? I mean, at my point, you lived this long getting
quite chubby for a while and then you decided to make a change. That was not... Yeah, true,
But I don't feel like losing weight to live longer to spend longer with my kids and harass them into my old age
Is the same as now starting to drink coffee? I think I think the equivalent gonna be honest
I did go off coffee. I stopped drinking caffeine entirely for a year. Oh, I was great
It was worse for me. I had headaches. I got in the first day were insane. I had five coffees a day drink over and they had to start
To bring it down because that's way too much coffee. All right
So let's move on to the next abuse for the kids because we're almost at 14k
You missed butter and bacon about it, don't skip butter and bacon.
Bacon is fine.
I have no issues with bacon, I would just choose sausage over bacon.
I think they fulfill two very different roles.
Right, and I just, I prefer one to the other if there's a choice.
That's it.
But does that mean I don't eat bacon?
No, we had bacon the other way downstairs.
I can't believe you dislike bacon this much.
Yeah, I'm aggressively disliking that stuff.
That's actually uncalled for.
I don't see bacon and like go, oh, it's bacon.
But when it's the pic.
Yeah, that's not it.
It's entirely different thing.
The butter thing.
Okay, so my parents were landlords in the UK
for most of my life.
And they used to put on, obviously like weddings
and things like that.
And one time I was a fat kid.
And so what I used to do when all the food was out
is even though it wasn't for,
Oh, for me, I was going to sneak maybe a couple of sauce rolls or a couple of these very UK things,
a little sausage and pineapple stick.
Yeah, cocktail stick.
Cocktail stick.
A nice or a cocktail stick, which what I thought was cheese cubes on the end.
And so I grabbed a couple of these as a little chubby monster and they were cubes of butter
that were put out by request and I threw up and raw butter and bread I haven't been able to have since.
But I cooked with butter, I put the eggs.
Salted on tortures.
I've eaten this since I was seven.
Salted butter is delicious.
I'm sure it is.
I genuinely wish I could have butter
because when I work on the road
and just grabbing a sandwich.
Does it extend to margarine?
Or is it?
Yeah, it is.
And it says all...
The smell actually makes me feel really ill.
Okay, I get that.
I have that with tequila.
Yeah, tequila is a classic.
Yeah, so that's it.
But I've got better
because I make sandwiches for my wife, my kids.
So what we've learned is you hate farmers.
You hate pigs.
You hate farmers.
You don't like dairy products at all.
Everything was just oat milk.
What about oat butter?
Have you tried oat butter?
I haven't.
I drink a lot of oat milk.
Does that exist?
Almond milk.
Almond milk and a big fan.
Almond milk is like, that's a lot of water invested into that.
Is that a problem?
Should I not have water?
Well, I'm just saying, there's a lot of water.
The problem is there's probably people out there that drink almond milk and I don't
want them to feel bad about drinking almond milk.
So I was going to try and make you feel bad about it, but then I decided not
to do that.
I'm fine.
a month could be okay I'm gonna go with it right should we go to the next
discipline you want to go in an oven but yeah I'm making a mistake so it's not a
mistake but the thing with all of these like different types of milk is firstly
I can understand wanting to not drink normal right there's a lot of stuff with
dairy farming that isn't great right and a hundred percent understand that or if
you just your lactose intolerant whatever you have soy milk which uses a
lot of water per hectare to farm but is slightly better than almond milk which also often uses
water in places where water is more scarce and so the amount of water you are using to get one
gallon of milk will say is much greater than the amount of water you use to get it from
cow's milk right so finding the right source oats I think are the best for water consumption
generally finding the right source is super important if you're doing it from an ethical
at my whole point of view.
Gotcha.
No, you can't just do it with taste as well.
Oh yeah, cows, you have that.
Can we have anything?
No.
No ethical consumption under capsules.
Just bacon.
Yes.
You consume bacon, but pigs are in charge.
Bring them down.
It's an Orwellian nightmare.
We're all screwed.
Oh god, nightmare.
All right, let's go through each group.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
apparently.
We're all just going to be sat here with our tofu cubes.
In fact, Caro, Degura, tried to sell me yesterday
what she called protein cheese.
And I was like, what is protein cheese?
She's like, we call it gray cheese.
And I'm like, right.
And she's like, it's really tasty.
And I was like, okay, what is it?
Because we haven't got that generally in our cheeseboards
because we're both big cheese fans.
They said, right.
So what you do is it's kind of like a weird texture
of powdery texture, right?
And then you cover it with other flavors.
So it doesn't taste of anything then, right?
It's like, well, it does.
If you put it with vinegar and maybe some sauerkraut and some...
Wait, wait, wait.
So you have to cover it in these really strong,
acidic flavors you can get.
In order to make it work, I was like,
Carrie, you're just eating cubes of protein powder.
That tastes amazing.
She's like, kind of, kind of, but it is.
And she thought she'd found a life hack,
so I don't have protein shakes.
I have protein cheese covered in vinegar.
And that explains your breath.
It is tasty, though.
Just put enough spice on anything it becomes tasty.
It was like us, we had scammed nuggets yesterday team, we had scammed nuggets, there was a message
that went out saying that Julia had made us trays of chicken nuggets.
Our trays of, actually the wording was trays of nuggets in the snack room and these pitches
came in with these like really nice plated nuggets in a mound with the sweet chilli sauce
and everybody just ran out there and dipped them in and had them and then we were betrayed.
Apparently I was fine with it. I thought it tasted good. Okay, I thought it is fine
Alex didn't realize that they were plant-based until I said they might be
Right and then they were all right too and they was like
Ali refused to touch them. He's like this is a betrayal of my oath. They taste really good. Try to feed me vegan nuggets
I literally couldn't tell a difference whatsoever. I'm a massive fan of that style of food when it doesn't try to be meat
Right like a good vegetarian food like I grew up in India, right?
So there's a huge amount of really good vegetarian food
And then when I moved back I tried to eat more vegetarian stuff and often it's just like it's getting better now
But like five ten years ago, they were just trying too hard to be meat
It was like we want to make the texture of me and we want to make it taste like me
It's like this isn't taste anything like that. Just give me a good aloo Kobe. Have you tried an impossible burger?
I haven't had one yet. I haven't had one either. I've had a very very close. Oh interesting
Yeah, but that doesn't really bother me like I you can eat really good food. That's vegetarian
Yeah I would prefer that but I do sometimes I enjoy eating meat so I was like if it's
plant based I'd be fine. I like bacon fine! Jesus Christ! Don't join them! They're the
worst! Oh wow! No because I'll see you in like five years! You've been married this
all time you know it's all good everything's going to be like you're
still not eating bacon you'll still bring it up like this. I'll bring up the
beans. I'll bring them up. Anyway one dollar.
Thanks, Turtle and Fish, jerk, we've been there for 25 minutes.
Thank you, Mike's speedo friend.
I heard you were disappointed you didn't get to hit Deathwing's feet in Dragon Soul.
Oh, I mean, I did.
Yes, I was with Method at the time doing Deathwing.
Also, when are we meeting in the hot tubs again?
Again, we were talking about Hot Tub Man last night,
Because there's no sauna here so I have an opportunity to help some man and his speedo yeah again
Little shout for the splits again guys. They're still looking for people. Please type echo
Inside LFG if you're chilling on your Sunday morning wherever you are across Europe, and you're doing some gaming
You've got no work. So you're having a gaming day echo is looking to get some splits done
So it's a normal normal greck. So if you've done heroic this week, you're not done
You're normal normal all greck still looking for that trinket. So please have a check there
You can help the guys out because as you can see everything matters in this race
Which is turning out to be potentially one of the most difficult if not the most difficult rate of all time is what you're
Witnessing here. Yeah, really depending on how silk and court and answer it look but from what we have seen
likely even more pulls than
Kiversa and we twisted we have more donations
Oh, yeah, one's got angry at you again. No, this is for you. Actually, it's finally if we can start a trend of attacking medic
thumbs up it's fine by me yeah let's try and hit that 15k before they kill it
and annoying medic more and we get to drive the producers iPhones around on
top of little cars oh we're gonna race into the players yes sweet okay this
is rex x of five dollars which again massive help towards the kids everything
here is helping those really sick children who need that help them at
distraction medic how do I get out bronze it's tough it is really
difficult. I'm going to assume that you are a challenger level mechanical gamer, but it's
your team that are letting you down. So what you need to do is every game when you get into
chat you need a copy-pasted message. And what it says is, dearest teammates, I am much
better than you are. So if you could please just focus on playing around me, that would
be advisable. If you do not do this, I will run it down because you are wasting my
time and I deserve to be in Challenger. Kind regards, I can't remember the name.
Oh, it was me. Exec.
Exec. Kind regards, Exec. And every time they make a mistake, you copy-paste that, put it
in again, and if they mute you, you start pinging. People love pings in League.
Oh, sure.
Yeah, especially the question mark pinging is really good, the BDS World's the most
really good for this sort of thing. What you want to do is just constantly ping
next to them. You put a question mark there and it just shows you're inquiring about the state of
bed. And you're engaged? Yeah. It's like, hey, I'm paying attention to you. I was just wondering
if kindly you could explain why you are so trash. Can you explain to me please? The brain power
it took to make that decision because I'm struggling. Yeah, there's one brain cell dodging around
all of your teammates and every now and again, it will get into one of their brains and they'll
have an independent thought. It rarely happens that you have to do the carrying and by
Reminding them of that you will make sure they understand who the true carry of the team is
Yeah, and you also want to point out that if you could you would log all their accounts simultaneously and
Still play every single one of the characters and still do better than what they are doing right now
You could multi box league and you'd be better than them the correct. Yeah, absolutely correct
But then again, this is the road to success
Right. Yeah, I mean guaranteed how long how quickly you out of bronze with this. Oh, I mean
I started in bonds about 10 years ago, and I'm now master so just
Now you have the biggest friends list
Yeah, right massive. It's huge. Everyone loves me. Yeah at the end of every game. Everyone's just like sending a request
Yeah, do it again. They can't we keep myself safe quite a lot. Which is quite nice. Oh, yeah, they're like, yeah
You know what? It sounds toxic, but it sounds like such a healthy atmosphere, a nice one.
I have a toxicity story, I will share with you off the stream, because it's not something
to be...
Oh, it's not stream safe.
Well, I'll ask production.
Okay.
It's hard to say where you could go that couldn't put it be allowed.
Okay.
Our next issue comes in from Smart07, $10 came in from Smart07, and he says, hi
Hi Mike, your taste buds are nonexistent. Their existence is almost as big as a lie as
we'll have in the summer. Now will you please give me VIP? It's what I say, no.
However, Mike's PC is logged in. What's your username again?
www.godmode.com. The username of the person that wants that's...
Oh who donates it? I'm a piece of trash, 07.
Okay, VIP coming. Yep, so if we can VIP, I'm complete trash all day.
Oh seven. Oh seven. I've been told it's on the line, but allowable. Tell me a story regale me
So I was I've only recently got to master which is like really relatively high right, but I'm
I'm good at macro. I'm not so good at micro
I know how to read the map or not very good the individual plays and I made a few mistakes in this game
And someone added me afterwards, and I think I was streaming or something as I'll add them to you know for the entertainment
They sent me an Amazon wishlist on it was one item just a vote
That is legit funny.
They got banned shortly afterwards.
That is top tier banter.
Yeah, that is...
Depending on the personality of receiving that.
I found it very funny, but not something you should do or as a biker.
No, absolutely not. Somebody will take that very wrong way.
That is stream content forever.
Oh my god.
Come over to League of Legends, we have the best toxic players.
I got kicked out of a dungeon.
For the first time in years, I've defended WoW's toxicity for a really long time.
I got kicked from a dungeon, I'm like, what the hell?
Just happened I got kicked and I was like, the top damage, everything or something.
And it's because I was doing the quest.
Oh yeah, because you were too far behind.
I remember over doing this.
Come on, catch up, man.
Oh, we broke 14k!
We did.
Dude!
Amazing.
Great job.
And for that, Mike will eat a hot chip.
Oh, that was...
I haven't got bacon on it, so you're fine.
Codbear, with ten dollars.
Hi Medic.
I'm just wondering, what is your opinion on dishwashers?
I might have some thoughts.
I am a big fan of dishwashers.
Me too.
I think you should have two of them.
And here's the logic.
You don't need any storage space for your cutlery or for your plates.
No, you are not.
It's great logic.
You fill up one dishwasher.
There's no way you're doing that.
You clean everything.
And then you have the other dishwasher.
You put the dirty dishes in there.
And you just take out of the clean dishwasher
and put it into the dirty dishwasher.
That's the equipment stuff, dude.
It's genius.
Oh my god.
You don't need a sewage place for anything.
Replace your cupboards with dishwasher too.
Exactly.
Electric Beagleoo.
What are your thoughts on dishwashers?
I wish I had space one.
Because they're very water efficient and the best way of utilising and recycling water to maintain the cleanness of your dishes
Unfortunately my home does not have space for a dishwasher, so I don't have one.
You can get those really tiny ones that are like this big.
What are you doing?
What is the matter with you?
There must be some space for a dishwasher like this, because otherwise you're just...
You're kind of just making your wife do the dishes, right?
No, I do the dishes.
Are you sh...
Yes!
I've cooked pal.
Really badly.
She beats me with it.
With the dishes.
The sponge.
She's still my wife, she's gentle.
Oh yeah, that's understandable.
No marks.
The whips and chains came out later on, but the dishwasher, no you're not into that.
She tried to use it in a more practical way, so it should basically just have to build
a shed.
I was really excited for a time, and then I ended up putting the POS gear on the wall.
If you have a shed, they do have a shed.
Dishwasher in the shed?
You think I'm carrying the dishwashers to the shed in the garden?
So I understand where your error has come from here.
Okay, I missed it, go on, go ahead.
You don't have to move the dishwasher every time, Preach.
What does not bring the dishwasher to the dish is the dish is not the dishwasher.
This is where I've been going wrong all these years.
Every time this is dirty plate on the table, I throw a dishwasher at the table.
It's a full shambles every time.
It's full of water, it's really heavy.
It's a right mess, and this is why I didn't want one.
But no, I've just never got space for one.
Apparently this is a crime.
I mean, that's understandable.
Is it? It's understandable.
It's understandable to have space.
I feel like there was a lot of pent-up aggression there.
No.
And I came in very well-meaning with my...
Maybe there's a small dishwasher.
Get one that just washes one dish at a time.
Perhaps you just replace it each time.
Oh my God.
We have $213.57 from another moose.
Says...
I could need to do some better polls real quick.
Oh yeah they do!
Yeah they do!
Thanks Chris, I'm so glad you're involved with production now.
Thank you Chris.
I was really happy. Jerk.
So anonymous.
Yeah, $230 per cent. Thank you so much.
Thank you.
So many children helped dude.
That's like buying a console for them.
Yeah.
Kids with cancer, kids with some really nasty diseases.
You're amazing so they can get their mind off what's happening you know.
It's incredibly kind.
terribly sorry to interrupt the memes but he wanted me to let you know he's found
a bit of gold certainly did thank you very very much it's incredibly generous
thank you so much certainly is like no dishwashers there and I'll get one for
about 200 bucks sir if you want it I'm gonna buy one I want to put it
you have two children take over the bedroom right good bug beds now so this is a dish washer upstairs
if you only use the dishwasher during the day you could take out the trays
and then that's a good napspot for one of your kids, right?
Or you think he's getting pets, right?
Yes.
Cat litter box.
In a different hole where we'll have a dishwasher.
Oh, you will have one in your house.
We've not got pets now because we got evicted from our previous house.
Okay.
Yes, we had to get out within like three weeks.
Lack of dishwasher.
That was definitely why it was.
Yeah, it definitely wasn't really greedy landlords
that cobalt together to kick everybody out in the area.
Landlords would never do that.
No, especially when the government was locking them down there
their ability so they didn't all send it really fast before it became illegal to do so.
That's not what happened to me after 12 years in the same property, not even the courtesy
of a phone call.
Wow.
Dick.
Agreed.
But now, thankfully the house is actually so un-maintained because he didn't do any
work on it.
He's having to rebuild.
That'll teach you.
Anyway.
Okay, give him a quick call now if you want.
I'm not allowed to do that anymore.
I love the cast guys. How is the energy room for the Raiders? Electric. This is the
Memes of Side as they're getting to grips with this pool. This is the day that Echo can
kind of smell blood in the water. They're not quite there yet. We haven't had that full
shift of gear that Echo has. You'll know it when it happens because they'll just
sort of change. But Liquid did not manage to get the boss down as Echo got out of
bed. They know it's doable and that's the point. And then they're going to
They know it's doable and that's the point and then so this is the day when you want echo to really become dominant
I'm just knowing so you got to switch swag is out. There's currently no munk in the raid
So I assume the splits is for swag to get a piece of gear. So we've got perfecto in so we're going double road
So to get the practice in on the players obviously they're not expecting to meet the DPS check without the monk debuff in the raid
But still perfecto will be trying to I mean this is gonna be a war between perfecto and kush to do better damage
Yeah, who has that edge at this point?
Obviously, Cush has a little bit more practice.
Yeah, we will keep an eye on it,
but as you say, unlikely to actually get,
it's practice pause rather than progress pause.
Yes.
Yeah, because they don't know
what the final comp's gonna be.
It might not be this one.
So Swag will be coming back after he splits and done.
But then you get this opportunity.
And I see that Perfecto is higher than Cush right now.
Get wrecked Cush, get outside.
That is not the play here.
So that's what's happening.
Swag is out doing that split that we just made a call for earlier, so he'll be back in a few minutes
And right now perfect so I stepped in which is why it's so important and none of these players just drift like they used to
In the race a little first if you weren't in at first they would just sort of afk yeah and get out there
But so it nice beams down of course. They're saying to come at us for all the things
But we will be full focus when they're making a little progress guys. Don't worry about that
But until then we'll have some fun. You haven't played battles game three right? I have yeah, but I haven't finished
Okay
$10 from scratch I
Have this boss was a dog echo could have drafted my kid and the boss would have been killed instantly
Thank you for the $10 scratch
Killed scratch
I mean there's only one like there's a binary is scratch alive or dead
I tried everything to keep that dog alive
Obviously not
I did
Look I really did like there was it there was one way of saving scratch
The end when I did at the time
Which was just to leave yeah
Well, I tried skim bitch look
Okay, I really want to say scratch. I'm a dog lover you guys know that and
And I was really trying and I was like trying to convince scratch that someone was dead
It should come with me and scratch got aggressive and attacked me
And you didn't charm or like sleep scratch or
Like I tried to scratch scratch in a way that then you could walk away
Instead you fired an arrow down scratchers gullet. No, I wouldn't like a pin cushion. Oh, no
I'm not monster. What did you do? I squashed him with a mace. Of course you did
oh my god scratch attacks me first that's animal instincts scratch was the
aggressor no yeah no yeah I'm look I don't have to squirrel into the tree I
can tell you this have everybody you screamed but streamed about those gates
we on switch I had the third most watched streamed the bars get three
globally. Because that is a very unique playthrough.
Well, we have one rule in those kind of games, which is we live with our
consequences. We live with our decisions, right, and we deal with the
consequences. And that leads to a unique playthrough because we don't save scum.
That's not allowed. And sometimes, like, scratch goes wrong. So I didn't know
you could save scratch. I was full blind. And then scratch attacked me and
stuff like that so I calmed it down. And yeah, it's all going to be like a monster.
I calmed it down. I calmed it down. That's such a disgrace.
So here we are, a mini cannex swag all in a pool here together, mirrors there as well.
Oh pre-heats in this. Oh Mitch is gaming and semester and that which is some production is not focused on us and what may or may not
They are gaming and helping in the splits normal mode peasants
Yeah, I'm Mitch literally leveled up to 80 yesterday because he made a new character
So cool thing about normal splits is it really doesn't matter what gears and it's really for the bodies to increase the loot table there
But they're not gonna die here. It'd be if you guys could die in here. I would be amazed
Good manage, but Mitch would never do that Mitch is very good, but that split is getting done and swag will be back in
Okay
Yeah, but the all greats gonna be dead before we get there. Yeah
100 bucks production will die, but uh
In game in game. Yeah, okay. They're not doing a scratch
I actually hurt
Oh Sam is saying we got $100 before the boss dies. He'll kill Mera's
I assume you're going to try and grip him off, but I think the boss will be long dead before that as we come back over to here
You can see perfecto way ahead kush. You better step up your game kushy
Perfecto proving what he's got. He's got a thirst to be in there now
It's dead that is the intentional death and you see it'll be back on his feet
We have one tank in this fight
So that means that when the tank mechanic does kill the tank the intention here is to rest him
which of course means no one else can die,
unless you have some sort of self-ank
or something on those lines to get around it,
but they are really relying on the God pull
to get this done.
Yeah, we need the extra DPS,
is why we're running with one tank.
You want that extra man.
For healing at the moment,
the question becomes at some point,
if they are consistent and they still have 10% left to go,
whether we move down to three healing,
as you say, Potter has run the numbers,
and it said we might be able to possibly
perhaps make this work in certain situations.
If I have to send the three heal,
they're ready to do it.
Which is horrifying
It was horrifying at Rhygolin as well
They did it
They made it work, you know, it's one of those things that's he down again does have the ink though
We'll be getting back on that's these toesies and getting ready for this intermission going in so still relatively clean
He's I mean it's an ink. It's okay. You know, it's it's nothing. It's nothing they haven't been able to rescue from of course
They would prefer that ankle later, but this should be pretty good
We'll get back to your donations in a second guys
We just want to pay attention. I'm actually curious about DPS if they can survive this
Oh, but Jinji has gone down and went from a hundred percent to zero. So I assume that was a quadrant to be hit
Yeah, I mean, but even though I think they're called midnight. It doesn't a hundred percent kill you
So it might have been a blaze overlap with a quadrant
Velo down and it's a 7.2. So no advancement there on the damage with that going down
So a little unfortunate for echo, but we can confirm the split was a success as flag has attained trinket
so maybe after this poll I will be seeing. I mean there's a little RNG to DPS,
debuff's gotten and things like that so crushers have more experience but the
factor is also like god mode on rogue so would that not be the play. So we'll
come I'm gonna get through these before we move on. Okay. Purely because obviously
it's for super good cause and it's important. Ziggs with $10 medic. Apart from
Mike killing dogs. He threw acid on children. It's half the context dude. It's ten dollars
for the kids as long as his price stays away.
Do you want to explain it? We're just going to leave it there.
You're not going to believe me, right? Please tell me this was in Boundless Gate.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
What? Yes! Of course!
No, there was a...
Of course they do the answers on the children!
They didn't do that!
Of course I yeeted it over their poor little innocent faces!
There was a witch!
I watched them melt in front of me!
It was the richest font! I can't be blamed for this!
There's a causality!
It is Kush going out!
No, Kush is still in.
I'm just gonna say worst player.
Oh, it's like fonts. It's hard.
Do you need some classes?
No, I need the better fonts.
Like, white on yellow and stuff,
like over in the top corner.
I mean I get that I get that yeah acid on children's faces. Oh come on. Okay. Look there was a witch
Yes, who abducted a child and then ate the child
But we had a thing to make her regurgitate the child. Okay to save the child right
But you had to get the witch to a certain HP threshold. Yes happen. So I was for ages
delicately
Working her HP down could have killed her outright blah blah blah, but I wasn't very being very very careful
So we were looking at the damage rolls and all that kind of stuff and the actual best option to
Nicely and gently get it to the right threshold was an acid arrow
In order to just take it over and it not only crit it crit hard core made a pool of acid on the floor
So which a cutscene then played of her dying and spewing up the trill into the acid
So, I had to go tell them about that.
Coming out of the gaping moor and a sitting hydrochloride filled stomach of this witch,
thinking breathing the free air, thinking I've been saved by the wonderful preach, all
the hell preach for bringing me out of my purgatory, face first into acid, face melts
off, skull just exposed to the world, screaming bloody murder, paying to some sort of God.
I don't think the kid was dead. I think the kid was alive and you killed it.
I didn't get the child. No, you didn't. But does that excuse your actions?
I explained to the mother what happened. Yeah? And how did the mother feel? She was upset.
Did you explain in detail what happened? Did you say, hey, I got there but your kid was dead?
I feel the latter may have been the explanation that was bandied about.
rather than I saved your child and instantly put them in a bath of acid because I didn't realise that
but apparently that isn't the best thing for kids. It's really not the way it went down.
It was a terrible sequence with that. Yes it was a new contributed greatly to the sequence.
It's kind of funny though. It's hilarious obviously.
I feel like this is like every bad thing I've ever done in a video game.
And the distaste for bacon.
Bacon's fine.
Yeah, it's not what you said before.
Is it not?
Oh, we've been locked out!
Did you click on the Tiltify thing, or are you on Chrome?
What?
Did you need a responsible adult?
Oh, it was on the dashboard, and then it locked me up.
And then you clicked the button.
I think I was Dilly Dallying between the ones.
Yeah, I mean you probably were.
Yeah, I was Dilly Dallying.
to the more favourable to me honestly you're getting me like the sanitiser great for a kid
coming out of an acidic environment, poor acid not too good. See you got to put a positive
spin on it, positive return on the fish again. We live without decisions eh Mike, I believe
you lay in bed with a squid in Balder's Gate 3. We all get that. Of course we did,
That was where we saved scum because absolutely no in canon
Guys that would not happen, but I was really like curious how far did they go with this very far? It was enjoyable
No
No, I feel this is a subjective matter that you can't tell me
Shame me. I'm not shaming you
I did not enjoy but I was I was I always pictured the artist in the studio if he's like, well, we're doing it
There we go. For some tentacles, I wonder if they got expert help in some of all 34 artists.
Now this Chris was busy. Yeah, Chris working on other things. Yeah, yeah, but maybe he did it by email.
Possibly, yeah. It's $10!
You're a dearest reader! What you must do is insert the tentacle!
Givin' Mike's history with children and acid.
I'm sure he's the best person to be taking part in this children's charity.
Hey, this is part of court mandated public service wasn't it for you?
Stop all the court spinning okay?
Yeah.
It's amazing what you can get away with in context.
It's really good.
Owl Bear!
I'm not gonna lie, there's no way I can sanitise this one.
I'm looking forward to it.
The Owl Bear Cub.
You killed the cub?
God.
You can save the cub.
I was testing something.
You can't test something when you're not safe scumming.
You're just killing all the cute creatures.
I also like the fact this is the one that you seem more upset about than the one where
you killed a child.
That was an accident!
Oh this was deliberate.
Yeah, but I had an idea.
I had an idea and I needed to see if it would work.
It did work.
Don't believe his lies, Medic.
I had an idea
I had an idea and I needed to see if it would work, it did work
Don't believe his lies, Medic
He picks me up and used me to beat my mother to death
No, no
You killed the cop
No, I killed the mother
with the cup
Yeah, but you just picked up the cup where it wasn't dead
It was a living cup
and you slammed into its mother's face
and every moment it's apologising
It's like, I'm sorry mother
I don't think there's any context that absolves you from this situation
This is the 8th circle of hell we have entered Mike
Look, I tried
Just to leave them at ease there was treasure in that cave and so I used speak animals
And I explained to the mother that we're not intruders everything's good
We're just here to explore and she said okay, and then I moved two feet and she got into combat
I was aggressive with me
Sorry to calm her down
By bludgeoning her well it then it's me
I wonder I was still it's very early in the game
So I was still like you get into grips with all the choices you can make and I was like, oh you can pick up the children
cub
I wonder if you can
And I beat that mother to death with her own child
I
Really think the fact the child was alive makes it so much worse
Like a basketball, really.
That owl back up is really good later on in the game by the way.
But look where it's got us now.
You think about it.
At the time it seemed really bad.
But now, we're literally providing for really sick kids that like education for the future.
Like, you know, it swings around.
That's true.
Yeah.
That's 100% true.
No, none of these people would have donated other than to shit talking.
I said dollars from Bashil.
Mike, do you remember that time you killed an in full of people?
I do.
Okay.
Thank you.
donation do you want to look right I had an hour back up no use as a doorstop
no no there was a town in darkness without spoiling it there's a town it's
well actually time is light that's the info the people you killed well the
whole town really.
I know!
I felt bad.
I don't want to be like pointing out like I did this out of a fun thing.
When you laugh about it afterwards it feels like you were doing it out of enjoyment.
I'm more laughing at how badly it snowballs because it really got out of hand very quickly
and I had to kill the guy with Karl at heart.
I can't remember her name now, the daughter of the dude.
Oh yeah, you know what I mean?
Yeah, the light woman.
Yeah, the light lady.
Anyway, she's like getting kidnapped and stuff, right?
And you've got to kill all the enemies.
And they're actually dying really easy.
And I had a talent where my fireball would not affect allies.
So you could fireball into like your, so she's an ally, right?
She's not an ally?
Technically not.
No blame for you. That's their fault. She's definitely an ally that's
considered like neutral slash ally and not actually an ally. That's her fault for not
really being on your side. My man. Like that is entirely on her. That's not your
fault at all. So I said it because to finish off I was like wow I was actually expecting
a fight. I was really stressed out about keeping her alive. I was like healing her
to make sure she was fine. And I really went to like oh and I was like oh this
isn't that bad actually. These guys are gonna die like next year. So I was like
Dude will just send a fireball right at him and it crit her for everything and it turns out
If you kill her everyone gets mad the whole place actually no it's way worse than that
They actually lose the light the darkness engulfs the town they all become zombified monster versions of themselves
Including the women and the children
And the only way out of the town is to literally be neck deep in Vissera, as you have to cleanse the town of it.
It was your own Anakin Skywalker moment.
And I was like doing it, and I'm going through the town one by one, murdering all these innocent skois.
This feels really bad, but like...
I did!
I just got a butcher, you know?
That's life, right?
I mean, I also... great game design.
The fact that happens after she dies.
I missed something like 30 hours of story because of that because it's
the whole place and yeah well that fight so easy that you'd have to go out of
your way to make this happen and for me it happened accidentally well good job
that's the thing but you gave people content no one else really is gonna
experience hence like from a viewership standpoint it works out really
well although I freely admit everything that happened here was
unintentional scratch the kid that moment I was like I mean she's an ally
How that happens scratch you did intentionally kill after he attacked me. Yes, but you didn't actually do it
You didn't intentionally pick up the albeic up and beat his mother. It's actually a mother to death
Yeah, I'm never the aggressor you can walk away
From a fight. Yes. I'm from Manchester. Yeah, I know
That's not realistic at all. No, there'll be none of that. Okay
We're great. We're actually flying here. Thank you so much guys
For Mike's rat friend, Medic, do you think he prefers those squid tentacles over feet?
Neither will do just nicely.
Oh, both?
Oh, I'd say it's the last one.
Oh, thank god the fleeting.
I mean, the subjectivity of what you enjoy is not my domain to view.
I can say what's objectively wrong about your preferences,
but I can't say subjectively whether you like tentacles or rats feet more.
Or just generally feet.
I can just say no to both.
to both. You can in public. I've heard the noises from your hotel room. Really? Yeah, they
get cleansed in there every day now apparently. Now someone keeps cleaning my room. Yeah, for
the slime. And that's not even supposed to be part, the reception is very clear that
shouldn't happen. Yeah. And someone's cleaning my room nearly every day. Yeah. I have
fresh towels all the time. It's a bit weird, right? But there's like a twin bed where
for some reason there's nowhere to put towels. I'm sure you've noticed. So they
just put them on the other bed. They put them on the other bed which is where
would keep a wet towel obviously and I've never touched the ones on the second bed
okay yet they replaced them every time they're still folded they're not the same
ones though I tested it I put like a little mark on one of them so I was
curious yeah and they're legitimately changing one every time despite the fact
they're clearly unused yeah it's really weird I don't know who keeps clean my
room but of course Alex had a weird one someone cleaned his room before hole in
the wall yes and told him he needed to change room wait he can't find the
whole. Yeah and he's not changed room. He keeps the issue out of the past as well. Yeah exactly.
Uh, oh, I'll lock it.
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Yeah.
That would be just about okay.
That would be the reason.
I think if you get the Vashakrida you just have to go on your pizza to say something
or if you wait it will die
Actually daydreaming about Silkencourt and then I realised we were in the first inhibition
What?
Err, it's...
It was a...
Die in the last one, I mean...
Ah!
When we had the Berser
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Come with you
You're fucking in
I was a little bit...
Oh!
I was a fucking...
I'm watching Orbs, middle charge is coming through the middle, assertions and staying spread,
Watching feet.
What are you trying to do?
Watching orbs, right?
Emission soon.
The tier spots.
Listen.
Marking charges.
Markers.
Also the positions.
Watching feet.
Come on, man.
Double-double-zero.
Are you coming?
Watching orbs.
Probably one of the missed middle charges coming through the middle.
They're spread.
I'm watching feet.
Park.
I'm watching for
At your spots, answer cameras
I'm super safe from you, really good
Respecting
Miss Kik, don't do
I'm at the next corner, sorry
Bye, Far
Can I pull something?
What marker charge is coming?
Thank you, Gaming
What marker charge is?
NTDB
I'm also at the positions, I'm through the main and watching feet, watching balls.
Watch the balls.
Middle target is coming.
Reaching us.
Through the middle, being spread, watching feet now, I'm watching orbs.
I think we'll have to do this with the last intermission soon.
I'm getting clear spots.
Do you want to early?
Yes, I'll go.
Yes, I'm alright so...
Yeah, I've been...
Blazes? How'd you die from it?
I'm not sure, I'm not sure. I always blaze at the start.
I put the very first glance, I really miss myself, and this is it.
Because I have to...
Whoa, the sun is on, I wasn't sure.
It's weird.
But I always start looking.
That's pretty good.
What a place we got on the last round.
10% and then the last one, yeah.
What happened in the second the second we shouldn't have to that's right
Yeah
I don't think I could have helped.
Yeah, I could have helped but I was just like...
Hello, this is Alnöy, I was just like...
Well, is your ram cross the...
Is your ram not me?
No, call, I'm like, sit down, absolutely... fuck me.
Merch is saving. I don't know, I'll see you later.
Yeah, you can say something though, yeah? Then we can rewind.
Yes.
There is an late year ramp, always followed, yeah?
New rule.
Too many ramp classes, man.
I didn't get to the windstand, but...
Fucking Doshi is shit, man.
Yeah, sometimes happen.
I don't know, I just saw an online clip,
did you just standing still and just...
Yeah, I was excited, I mean, maybe I thought,
nah, Doshi is, I don't know.
Probably some faggot happens, like...
Really rarely, though, yeah?
So do we do it that way?
Won't do that.
I had to stop the last phase, I didn't...
Did you say I'm rewinding or do you want me to rewind?
I wanted to rewind, so right after this list
I didn't get all ahead with rewind
So if you were just pulling, you were pressing it right?
Yeah
And now you're waiting for it to end with me or?
Nah, nah, nah
I just said I have an R in mind early
Ah, it's fine, boss is that low especially
It's like, we don't need to leave the pool in the rest
Yeah guys
We were
Like
1 or 1.5%
below
what we did that
after the 2nd mission
So
Damages
You're all convinced
Thanks a lot
Need a summoner to meet it
It's like in front of you, look at them
I didn't press one like the healer man
It's not that good
Oh no
What are they doing
It's building 5
It's like 8B
It's like 8B
I see, I see
Yeah, it's covering 5, it's an unexplored
I'm just saying, yeah, if you pull the boss and take him out, I get some egg stacks in.
Let's get in more summoning
I'm the pro, you know?
I think there are 4 people
Contra what platform you're saying timeguards and everyone trying to get a good race
Alright, I'm fucking ready
Just remember
I'm not ready
Ingersoll number
You can send them a little orbital strike on this one if you want a little more overall
Dude, look, I'm free stacking my ascendants
But if I push it has short trousers and short shoulders
They're fucking real
Browsers
I'm ready to fucking kill the boss
There's a book in here, can you tell?
We have to open it, just in one spot
Why are you in combat?
There's a book here
There's a book here that you can hit
Oh, what the fuck?
Yeah, you can kill the book here
Yeah, if you click it, you die there
I need to stay and stack some shit up on that
I'm stacking in my weapon, but I can stack my mech
Oh, you stack a mech now?
I can't really clear the conscience
I just killed the boss, guys
I pulled now fast
Ok, gooo...
Good game
A lot of respect thing, respect thing
Temp, we're good
We're good
5-5
A little bit of room in the bush
Ward marker charges coming
The ward markers
Also the tiff positions
How much room?
Watching feet, meet
Watching orbs
Orbs
What is?
Middle charges coming, middle, thanks Fred, watching P, watching Orbs, missions to him,
to your spots.
What's up Chris?
What's up?
What's up?
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What's up?
What's up?
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What's up?
Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the race to world first in the narrow bar palace
I am Alec from fat boss CV and joining me is the wonderful Nagura. Good morning
It's a wonderful morning as they've only got like a new best pool. I believe
Yeah, we just got in here eating our breakfast and having our coffee and then we see a little why
I was like, well, maybe we should go and
We should probably go and do our jobs
Yeah, day five of mythic is kicking off with some very very exciting news. Of course liquid
managing to get this boss down during the night here in the EU. Now echo can do everything
in their power to catch back up. I think it took them just over 300 pools overall.
So echo obviously looking to beat that particular pool count. So yeah, they've woke up. We's
expecting them to have a meeting which they always do in the morning and that meeting
to run over way long but no got upstairs and they were pulling the balls so we're here with you now.
Yeah and looking at the comp no changes have been made overnight it looks like so we still
have that double enhancement shaman that they switched in yesterday at the end of the day which
worked out really well. We played incredibly well not you said yesterday didn't cause any wipes
success nice that's what you want if I don't believe he was really no that's a
reset is it not I think yeah yeah those ads are spawned a little bit of a scuff
location I think they're gonna still go for it why not but the other now the
unprotected renews yellow throw this one away not being out of the fight for so
so long and then I don't know if he was in on any parts of Brock and then
coming in on a very very difficult fight yes I was thinking more for oh
Oh yeah, for this boss.
Yeah, like I don't think he was in at all.
No, he wasn't.
He definitely came in and like really smashed it.
Not only did he not like die, multiple,
like he really always like survived quite far
when I was watching.
And he also like did a lot of damage immediately.
Yup.
So that was really good, really playing perfectly.
Mini-consistently.
That was perfect for him.
Mini-consistently just showing up
and doing the big damn.
it's it's it's incredible I even saw a little bit on Brew Twister to help the
other DK's a little bit a little bit coaching going on before he came back in
which was a good to see because obviously they had to suddenly spawn four
DK's Frost DK's out of nowhere at least for the early part of their strategy so
it took a little bit of learning. The tanks were playing Frost DK, the damage dealers were tanking, the dealers were DPSing, it made no sense, it still doesn't.
So yeah, no major changes to the comp, as you've said, it's still running for that double
evoker healing comp with the Preservations with the Holy Breeze and a Resto Shaman, good
to see Resto Shaman's back, although even if they are just here for Spirit Bank it feels
like, but that's like the good old days, aren't I'm told, yeah.
So just like the good old days, that's what they're only there for their 4 as well,
it's Preservation Evoker's really kicking some ass when it comes to healing, absolutely
annihilating everything. No HPS is probably a little out of control, but a bit too late
probably to nerf them just yet. You might see some nerfs for them, maybe in a month
or so, bringing them down a little bit. Yeah, sorry to break it to you, but there are
nerfs waiting for you. Yeah, certainly is. But there's also some buffs as we're going
in towards the reset as well. We're seeing some buffs coming out towards some specs.
What are we thinking? Like are we thinking that you're actually going to start seeing
these guys build up some Shadow Priests as an example, or is this all some sort
crazy hallucination. I think it's so Blizzard set this some time ago that they
don't want to make super major changes for the first couple of weeks of the raid
for the rest of us but also for just normal players that have been gearing
certain characters and they don't want them to to be like to go from like being
the best to the worst right yeah so they are still making changes to adjust
some of the attuning the damage of the classes the balancing but they're
They are only buffing classes that are really underperforming to not be the first on damage
but rather just being average, right?
I don't think if a class like a Shadow Priest gets buffed from being underperforming to middle
of the pack, then I don't think the race of first skills would be necessarily bringing
them because then they'd rather bring the ones that are actually doing the top damage.
So I doubt that the Shadow Priest changes are going to be doing too much unless, of
course, there's always the value of PI, right?
true and it's not only did they bring PI but they can consistently do quite
high damage you don't normally see them in the very top guilds well enough but
like when you get into the top 100 you start seeing some very very disgusting
shadow plays it's like the top guilds are a little bit skittish around shadow
priest a little bit don't really value their power at the very beginning but
they normally weedle their way in just like boom kids end up always getting
into a comp. I did say we're having a good kit. It's happened again. It did happen. Honestly,
I have so much respect for Kha'Nix for being able to survive this. It's insane. Any damage
being done is incredible. It's crazy. Yeah, because Amira is saying that in terms of defensives
for boomkins, you're mainly just looking at bark, skin and barefoot. Yeah, and on a
boss like this where the damage is so important, you're going to be reluctant going into
barefoot because every time you do that, you lose quite a decent amount of damage,
So especially like the very end, you know that last intermission where you know
You need to kill a boss and you like you can just see the HP being so low and you want to do damage
But you probably just gonna sit and bear for him for every
Regicide right or every line because there's so much damage
So I think kennex actually has to bear from like every ability that is on him, which to be fair
There's not that many and while we talk about abilities of this boss
I guess we can go over them real quick in case you guys
have not really gotten a refresher of those mechanics in a while so on mythic
well actually maybe let's just explain the mechanics at all because some people
maybe haven't done this before either the main mechanic is that you get these
portals so random players will get portals you can see the markers the
world markers on the floor they're gonna be placing them there and later
on these portals are gonna like pull you in and depending on where you place
the portals you need to make sure you place them around the room because
if you all put them on one side you get sucked into that one corner and then if
you touch the portal you die. Yes. Horribly. Very horribly. You get absolutely annihilated.
I think it's called atomized in the dungeon, which is terrifying. So you can
see that they're all getting pulled in different directions. Once you place down
a portal though you will be sending out some orbs a little bit later so you
want to be out, send out your orbs and then get sucked in towards the
middle so you don't hit your friends with those orbs very bad. You'll then
be getting these charges. These charges you want to make sure hit nobody
else as well. On Mythic you do want a couple of them to hit the boss that's
That's why you see them charging in a very specific manner, to make it so some of them
pass through the boss, but not all of them, because if too many hit the boss at once then
bad things happen.
It becomes like a permanent damage buff that you really want to only have at the very end
of the fight where you can't avoid it.
But otherwise, the fight largely repeats.
You have some nexus signs, you have some more, these big lines coming out from the
boss in terms of the daggers, and then some obsidogs.
So they just repeat from there over and over again, really.
With their mythic strategy, this time the way that they do their charges, they
send them right through the boss just because of the way that the deathmarks work in order
to make sure that 100% guaranteed you've removed all of the masks off of the ads.
A couple of the ads were spawned with this sort of red outline and if that red outline
isn't removed by passing through the boss with the charge, then she will one-shot you
and she enters the intermission.
Yes, she will and that's usually not so good.
No!
Unfortunately we don't have Xero go down and they don't have... oh well that's
actually a bad thing because...
They wanted to reset the boss, but turns out the boss is like no no no, I haven't cast this
intubation, but yeah so the reason why they want to reset here they do have a
battle rush available, but famously on this boss we started one tanking, because
who needs two tanks, but the way the tank buster works on this boss is that
the tank gets a debuff, it's called like void shrapher or something like that, it does a
lot of initial damage and then it leaves behind a 35 seconds dot. There we go. There's some
mechanics, not the tank mechanic unfortunately, but we do have the death mask here, which is
a significant mechanic explained. Death cloak, which is the deal we talked about if you fail
it. And then we do have rebirth points, we also didn't talk about that yet, which
is if you reach a percent health, you get executed, which is very difficult to survive.
And that seems to be like a cheap death, like a rogue.
Or an immunity, pretty much.
You got like pre-immune it in a way, like when you reach below 10% of that small half-second delay
is when you hit the Cloak of Shadows, rather than not hitting Cloak of Shadows for the
initial damage, which of course you'd rather do, yes, no, it's pretty crazy.
But as you're saying about the Tank Mechanic.
Yeah, so the Tank Mechanic, it's a 35 seconds debuff, but it gets applied and gets applied every 30 seconds.
So the way you're supposed to play the boss is that one tank takes the debuff,
the other tank taunts to make sure that they don't take damage from the hits plus the debuff
and then the second tank gets the debuff and the first tank taunts again after his debuff has fallen
off but because we're on tanking the tank actually dies when the second debuff gets applied
so to get the tank back up they're using Ankh Totem on the first second stack because the way
the boss does the debuff it's three times per phase so the first debuff tanks normally plus
the boss attacks then the second debuff the tank dies gets rest with the ankh totem and then the
third debuff is just a one second again because the tank of course died i got rid of the debuff
then and then the second in the second phase again the tank will die in the second second
this time they will use a soul stone and a battle rest to get the tank back up and the
The third time it happens they have to use the Ankh Totem again.
The Ankh Totem has a 5 minute cooldown, so Mirus has to survive the double stack for a little while for a couple of seconds
for him to be able to get that cooldown back from the Ankh Totem.
And it has been a little bit sketchy but they figured it out.
But yeah, that's why sometimes people go down and they're not being rushed.
Because that battle rush is reserved for the tank and they cannot be using it on anyone else.
Yeah, it's incredibly dangerous because of course the first real Resorate available for
anyone else happens at 4 minutes and 30 into the fight.
And pretty much everything one shot you if you do it wrong on this encounter.
So it's really rough.
You're going to see one of the first Intentional Deaths from Mera's here.
As you can see the young tome has been placed down.
He's going to die.
Click that totemic revive.
We'll come back to the boss.
Everyone is happy.
Fortunately, at the point that he dies, the boss goes straight into the Nexus
Dagger's ability.
So it isn't really Malahitting anyone else.
you a little window of opportunity to get up and torn the bus before like a poor
Malay DPS such as Clicks quite often. Well, that would be Mini right now.
Maybe that's why they invited Mini. Mini is here as the secondary tank this
hour round. Yeah, so it's like works out perfectly. It's very rare that you see a
sack strat like this nowadays. It seems it's becoming rarer and rarer to see, but when the
boss demands so much damage, then you start doing some pretty degenerate stuff as they
do reset the boss, the soul does go down again. You see how quickly they are to throw away
pulls that aren't perfect. It honestly feels like we're gambling at this point. You're
just pulling the lever on the side of the machine just to give it another spin,
if we can get everything lined up and hope for the best and you can see it can happen
with one of our best pulls that we've had. I'm not sure if it was a new best or not,
but it was certainly one of the best pulls we've had.
Yeah, so the 2.6% that we had earlier today, that was what two players did that even before
the last division started, so it definitely would have had enough damage. But I don't
want to say definitely because I would have to go into the map and look at workaholves.
That's not happening. That is a Jesse job. And Jesse I believe is having a nice little
sleep. Yeah, not happening guys, not happening. We can pretend that we did the math and it
would have been enough.
I should have just thought that I did check work.
Oh damn.
I took the damage that the other classes did and applied it to that time frame and
turned out it would have been enough damage.
Yep, no for sure, 100% out of faith.
It is, oh, I'd agree with the entire sofa.
Yeah, I'd tell them to do that too.
Yeah.
I was like, the casters are going to the gym now,
and all of a sudden they're moving sofa, so all of a sudden.
Yeah, I'll take it.
Yeah, it's definitely my immense strength
and not my immense girth.
Which is...
Which is...
Which is...
Which is...
Which is...
Which is...
But it is a...
It's a...
interesting boss to have something so delicate. So because they have to play at such a high
level and have like perfect pools more consistently, it does mean that you're just very, very likely
to have these horrible wipes. It's such a mental battle more than anything else, making
sure that you keep good morale. You don't get tilted. You actually remember what pool
you're in as well. Sometimes it's just you can kind of get a little bit lost in the
source, but they are doing incredibly well. It's nice about to throw out that potion,
engineering potion to give them a little bit of extra such you can see the
internal agility increases they're very cool agility I'm not sure that was
intended I I think we I would check who's getting on the buffs from the
arch evokers and from this potion and I feel like I remember they're not being
somebody that gets like not into like I thought it was on the range so they're
throwing on the group that is going on that they're two evoker groups right
So it'll be over all ten players and I think the potion only affects five people
Um, yeah, so well, I guess that it has to be like we don't have enough intellect players
So I imagine it's going to be going on mini or maybe kush beats all the mages. Yes. Oh, no, actually, I'm not sure. I think I've been seeing um
What's his name hopeful kind of starting to pour a little bit further back?
I don't know but he seems to be like popping off. I don't know
Wow, that'd be so mean if like three mages get above
He's like, everyone except Huffle.
He's going to prove himself.
Who is getting the buffs?
Like, this makes me feel awful now.
Well, that's the thing.
I'm pretty sure Clixomini would be.
Sol as well is doing incredible damage.
Clixomini actually are not getting the buff, I think.
They're not getting the potion buff.
And I think it has to do just with...
Okay, so just because someone does a lot of damage on damage,
doesn't actually mean that buffing them is always more worth than buffing someone else.
within the time frame at the start of the full someone else will be doing more damage, right?
I understand. I guess you also take into account like what does my 600 stats do for you damage
wise? If it gives you 10k damage because someone else 15k damage then really should go to them
I suppose, right?
Yeah, overall they would be doing less in that moment.
Yes.
Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
So it's just a short time frame where it actually matters to be looking at, right?
Yeah, so you're going to see them going into this little intermission with a nice
little dance it's very much the same as it is on Heroic but there's just way more of these blaze
lines, some sort of regicide where you know a lot more often people are going to be getting it so
you're going to be dodging between the two zones and at the very end it's really awesome, everyone
gets a line, you can survive it then you're going to be very happy just as they manage to.
So they've gotten through the first phase of the fight as well as the first intermission,
now it's just going to repeat again, the second phase is identical, the only difference is that
of course they're going to have slightly different healing cooldowns available to them just because
the way that the fight has been rolling. The boss is on incredibly good health
percentage for this point in the fight as well. I looked at the damage meter and I was like
what are these shamans doing? They're absolutely blasting the boss. We're doing
2 million DPS each. Absolutely crazy. I feel like the point to get Mini in was to push clicks even
more damage. Because you know when you're doing so much damage ahead of everyone else,
you're just like chilling, it's like oh well, I'm doing so much damage. But now that a second
and shemin is in and I mean he's actually doing similar damage to clicks or sometimes beating
and he's like wait a second. I like the idea that clicks was chilling. Unfortunately Mara's
going down there that is going to unfortunately spell the end for this pull. He did go down
at the correct time in terms of resetting but I think as he was trying to get the
boss into the correct location he did unfortunately get flipped by a couple of those orbs
or maybe a, um, what's it called, a dagger that, uh, which has come down.
That was an incredibly good pull damage wise, um, and good up to that point.
But obviously Meriz is an incredibly difficult job here that he's been doing
very well at, um, and he hasn't had that much experience as well in
comparison to, uh, Robin, because they were running the, um, alternative sort
of comp where you had a Guardian Druid and a Windwulker Monk.
They just said, changed that out for a brewmaster, I think very much so
that they can hopefully survive that last thing and save one of the battle
and use up an Ankh-Totem instead.
Question about that actually.
Wouldn't an Ankh-Totem be more useful
than a Battle Res in the last phase?
Just because it also gives you that 20%,
oh, not 20%, it gives you that little bit more health.
It would be, but you can't use the Ankh-Totem
on the second debuff.
No, that's very true.
And on the last phase, look at all the timing.
So you have to use the Ankh-Totem first
because it's a five minute cooldown, right?
So you have to use the Ankh-Totem first,
and then you get it again for like technically you can say for like wait it's a
battle rush the second battle rush available for the second detective so in
there you could take you could also you could like do ang totem battle rush
battle rush and then ang totem for the last intermission where it'll give
people a little bit of extra health as well
hmm well actually I guess the problem with the ang totem is it's like you
put it down and it only lasts for a certain amount of time I think it's
I think it lasts for 30 seconds or until death occurs.
30 seconds, that's a long time.
I think it's 30 seconds, I could be wrong, happy to be wrong on that.
Well they placed it down really early here I guess we'll be able to see in this pool
because they put it down as soon as possible to get it on CD, right?
And then catch marriage just at the very point with you guys.
Yeah, that's a good point.
So I guess we'll keep an eye out for when the totem is put down.
But yeah, it's just...
Yeah, the problem, but yeah.
Yeah, so even if it is at 30 seconds right it's still like let's say you put it down and then
no one dies and then someone dies right after or somebody dies before you put the anktorn down
and then you don't arrest right and that's uh I guess that's what they're worried about
I guess if you're under the assumption that no one is going to need to be battle res before that point
like if you have a perfect pool yeah then the anktorn is going to generally be a little
bit more useful because it's going to coat the majority of the melee in a 10 health buff
which is going to increase safety but yeah I think it's probably maybe I can
understand the benefits of it. It still does give the 10% health right? It gives 10% health until
it's removed. So as soon as it's consumed at that time no longer basically exists.
Yeah that's an interesting point. I do think that there would technically be value in that.
I still don't know if it's better. I do think it's better if like the only downside would be
Which is, to be very honest, a big downside.
If you have somebody that dies before you put the totem down, right?
Yes.
Then obviously you would have had the rest, but you don't have the ankh totem.
Yeah, I think guilds generally, like historically at least, if they are going to do a sack, they prefer the guaranteed freebie res from an ankh totem
Over the use of a battle res that could otherwise save someone else's mistake at another point. I suppose
I think you also spawn pretty low HP on the Ankh Totem in comparison to the Belarus
I think you're right. Yeah, if you take the Belarus in the last intermission for example the Ankh Totem
I mean, then you're gonna just die anyway
Yeah, to the forcing aoe like maybe you take the rest and you just instantly die
Yeah, I think he spawned with 20% whereas with a normal res is it 100% for a normal res or is it like
I don't know if it's changed it so many times
It changes all the time man
I don't know if it's a difference either between soulstone and between...
Oh snap, that's really interesting
There used to be a difference, but I think they at some point like...
Made it this far
Made it this far
We'll see what Merus returns with
I do believe that it's either 100% or 60%
But I think...
I'm getting vibes that it's 100%
We will see, as they're getting everyone in these positions
It does look silly when the focus are like moving each other around
They're like
I guess that speaks to, well when we see them placed again in the future, we'll be able to
talk about it better, but the evokers are helping one another with their charges, in
terms of placing down the portals in the first place, Mary is going down there as intended
60%.
Yes, they're helping each other with their rescues, not only to get into position
but also as you don't interrupt casts when you're dragged around with rescue
So it's I guess a very tiny damage increase and making it so the players don't have to move the most benefit more beneficially even is the
Giant shield that is placed on both you and the rescue in the bokeh when you are dragged around a nice 30% max health shield
Looks like they're still going for a little while here even was though on the ground
They might be happy with the percentage that the boss is health is on they I think they're over killing it
Honestly, if they say that they did have like the god pool where everyone survived right to the very end in the
Last intermission in that last endless
Eternal knife phase then I think they are over killing it by a couple of percent
So maybe having a player down for a little while is something that they're willing to push
But I suppose you'll find out yeah, because in this situation now of course said the rest is gonna come up at 430 in combat
So they serve especially gonna be down for one minute. Now here again, I guess with the angkotum
Like now you have to use Scythe of the Cranberries, but you can't retroactively use Scythe of the Cranberries, so we'll be great though.
The focus hasn't got that ability yet, where they can rewind time over to save you, but one day they will.
So far so good in this intermission, but here comes the last and very scary part.
It works incredibly low, but it managed to get through it, and it will be able to get Zerua up in 10 seconds.
And as you very rightfully put, they're going to be, what's it, I can use my words, using the arctotum for Mara, so really, we can't have any more mistakes now, but there's nothing stopping them from getting the good pull, apart from a little bit of luck and a hell of a lot of skill needed.
to get through this very very difficult boss. Boss percentage looking decent as we
came out of that phase. I'm not entirely sure if it was super super far ahead but
they certainly look good, which I can't say the same for the health of the players
on the raid frame right now. Very scary, but you're gonna see that all five of
the adds that need to charge through the boss here. So we're gonna start off by
charging two of them through, giving the boss a temporary 20% damage increase.
Needs to happen. Did the boss actually gain the damage increase? It did.
is to die here in just a moment.
Yep.
There it is.
Ooh, it kicks in on the other tank.
Oh, Meris is out again.
Click ticket slap.
Oh.
Damn.
So one thing to note, by the way, you can actually have your tank be decked, but only
if your tank dies right before the last intermission.
Yes.
If you intermission, the boss actually does not melee the tank.
So if Meris does go down, the creep tank will be finished in five and still
even kill the boss as long as it would have been right before the mission but of
course we're stuck quite a bit before the mission started so we're not going to be able to continue.
Mini half-sewing out, he said he's had enough of this guild, enough of their attitude, he's out,
I'm done, I'm playing with you guys anymore. It's gonna get you another guild who are very,
very happily accepting I'm sure. I'm very, very sick now. He's called
Tell what what are you doing there for was he gone there for so maybe straight like he's trying to fix something
It's the trinket. Yes. It's I've actually talked about this yesterday. So this is this is a
Pretty cool trick. You see the trinket here. Yeah
Like the red diva
That one stacks up. Okay. I don't I didn't 100% understand because apparently what is really works
if you melee attack it gives you certain stacks and it does not get consumed until you use like an ability or something like that
So you can stack it up, and it does not reset on boss pool
So he's getting some pre stacks of a trinket
That's
I've seen worse I've seen worse from shellmans as well all the way back to do not
used to pre-stack their iconic pool star as well.
Like they removed that one since then, but you could have like the more astral fire you
spent you would stack up like above and then you proc like your cooldown for a little duration, right?
And that would not like reset them boss pool. So on like really tight damage stacks you would
go to your dreambroke, garrison, whatever, hit the dummy until you almost proc'd it,
get summoned in and pull the boss. And all of these like pre-pull shenanigans I personally
Always love it when buzzer fixes that stuff. Yes, I don't want to feel like I have to do this to get in that much, right?
I remember I'd been around for a while
I remember when the shadow priests back in the shadow all the times of warlords resetting on butcher that boss get reset like three times per
Pause like it was like a mini raden thing from
I guess more recently was done in Nilo throw with the warlocks getting that sort of buff that they could like
infinitely stack up before pulling the boss was less egregious than that like in terms of the power that you gain from it
at least but it was certainly in the same vein where I'm surprised that they
don't have like some way of just culling all of those sorts of things and just
getting rid of all of it I think I mean it probably is just a partially has to
do with like the whole this game is 20 years old and I think they have to like
specifically like whitelist each individual debuff that needs to be
cleared or something because they don't want to clear like everything
because then you don't have any class buffs anymore and potions are worth it.
The first four GCDs of every fight is us rebuffing and eating food.
That would actually be kind of funny when you think about it.
You can rebuff, you have to buff in combat.
Like part of your opener, it's just like,
Wrath, Wrath, muck it a while.
Oh man, that's what it's like to play in a vocer I suppose when you're playing all everywhere.
So you can see all of our majors getting ready to do some big slam as we are pulling
Coveza once again, pull number 255.
I have a good feeling about this.
It's a good number.
We're going to be jumping in here.
We can see some incredibly good pulls from Echo today and who best coming in very early
this morning before even eight o'clock.
I think it was like about 730 when that pool came in.
guys are coming ready and raring to go doing the best they possibly can with the
time that they have available they want to do everything in their power to see as
much of silken core as possible and feel that they have caught up or at least
they're at very similar level to liquid of course that have managed to get this boss
down in the early hours here in EU it was around middayish for them mayhams
yeah like around after their lunch I think and then they did pull, as far as I'm aware they did pull Silicon
Court a little bit on stream those eight pulls that we saw on I like that 83% and then they did
apparently stop they stopped streaming which makes sense it is like the last day for them
they have their reset tomorrow so they're just gonna keep everything that they see right now
secret force hugely beneficial for them to not show anything oh yeah being that first skill
to get that boss or get to see that boss and then when their reset happens they're not gonna
be showing the boss as well for quite a while because they're gonna have to be clear they're
gonna have to get some other things done tomorrow some splits maybe even so they can basically keep
whatever they've seen a secret for a pretty long time in contrary to the you guilds because of
course we still have today and tomorrow so if this boss goes down it is incredibly likely
that we are not gonna be having any secrets. We're gonna be showing whatever is happening there.
I don't want to promise anything because I'm not the one making decisions.
Yeah, they always haven't told us, which is ominous as hell. I do not like that. That is not a good
tidying. It's, um, you're right. I guess like Liquid do have one more full day before they reset,
right? Because they've got the whole of this Monday coming up because it was Sunday for them
when they killed the boss, right? That's me not being crazy. So they got the whole of today
when they wake up it's a sunday for them right so they'll be going if they haven't got a bed already
but they're still awake all right well they've just got a bed so they've just got a bed on their
sunday night so they'll be waking up for their monday so i guess they will have true they might
still go dark they might just spend the day doing their chores and keeping it like like maybe
they'll do child chores for the morning and then go dark for the evening once again it does
make sense to do this is something that echo also did on sonata side of nathreus they would
dart for an entire day i didn't do a good mind you but they did go dart for an entire day um
so uh maybe they'll do that who knows i wonder what they're gonna do yeah that's the point
because i actually felt their reason is i didn't time zones you know but yeah they do have another
day i guess so then yeah that'd be weird if they don't stream the whole day tomorrow but we'll
see what they do obviously they could feel like it would be a huge advantage for them.
I imagine it's um they would just do some sort of science or something right that's probably the
more the students where they turned up whether they're just like I did read on Raider IO I didn't
see anything myself that the idea of they might have gone in with like 10 players or something
to do sub machine addigons uh so question mark I'm not too sure entirely what's going on with
that um I woke up and then saw these guys pulling I haven't had a lot of time to check.
But we do have a pretty good try here as we are down to 44% and we are gonna get that stage
2 in just a moment, the suck is gonna come in here and then afterwards we're gonna have
to get rid of the rest of the masks that we still have up.
So actually, yeah there we go.
Oh no, it's intermission now, okay.
So this is the second intermission, everyone's still alive, we do have that battle rush
coming up in 30 seconds.
So a little bit of a safety net in case something does go wrong here in the division, but this
is an admission of course absolutely crazy you can see all of these lines coming out nice
and actually going to hit and surviving thankfully it did have to dodge that pizza slice so it
didn't really have anywhere to go at that moment.
There we go we do have that last Regicide coming out on everybody which is just an insane
amount of damage everyone has to be close to being topped and there we go.
Narko very close to going down on real classic right there.
I wish his character's name was Narko, who would have made my life a lot easier.
That was incredibly good.
Coming out of that intermission, the boss on a very nice health percentage.
This is looking very good.
It's got a good amount of potential.
Doing my best not to curse it.
But, well, there we go.
Bananas don't always work.
I wonder if this is doable.
It's scuffed.
It might be doable in terms of just being able to play the game, but no.
So, something went wrong with their assignment system there, I said it had potential, I didn't
say it was a kill chat, you can't tell me to go on the floor, not happening.
I'm not going to go full Draknos and say nothing can go wrong from here, or anything like that,
I'm not going to refuse.
I don't, the thing is he says it and it never ends up procket, he can't curse as
well.
It's unable to curse.
Yeah, let's explain the banana system that we have going on here so...
Oh, we could join Jesse's picture if you want. Do you think that would be helpful?
Exactly, it would be helpful.
Hold on, I'll go grab that then, more or less.
Yeah, so, while Alex is going over to the analyst's desk and finding the banana picture to explain this beautiful strategy...
Okay, let me see if we can find it.
Hopefully he left it here.
He did! Ha ha!
Stolen!
Uh, let me get the desk ready and work in.
I think it, yeah, no, it's on the right bit here.
We're gonna have to go through this together a little bit.
Um, but I think I'm ready for you.
Over here on the Max Royal Analysis desk.
Um, so can you get up the, there we go, the Ray Plan.
There you are.
Alright, yeah, so the way this works is you can see the beautiful picture with the bananas.
So, this is like the formation of where the portals have to go with the players.
and some of the players are going to be assigned a banana.
If you've got an assigned a banana, that means that an evoker is going to carry you to the correct spot.
If you have not been assigned a banana, because we don't have enough evokers to carry everybody,
you have to walk to your spot.
Yep.
And that's the banana strat, basically.
Yeah, the way that bananas are assigned, of course, through a macro.
So if you know that you're hit, because it's a private aura for this mechanic,
you get put on the banana loose which has got like a hierarchy where like certain classes
are chosen over others based on their you know defensive capabilities or the damage that
they were getting from the help of banana and yeah just goes along like that so then
you get chosen, you get tried two spots, you get that huge shield from the Twin Guardian.
Nice, thank you Jesse for the wonderful picture.
Here's one with smiley faces, that sort of thank you.
But yeah, obviously the rescue giving both the invoker and the person that they're carrying
a huge shield and that's why they are using the strategy.
Not to mention that they're probably also gonna be gaining a little bit of damage because
they don't have to move themselves.
It's not true for everyone, I do think that sometimes walking your character yourself
or like if you have something like a blink, it would be, you know, no damage loss for
you either.
But you don't have to think about where you're going, right?
If you know, if you see a banana, then you shut up your brain.
Don't even think about anything, just continue pressing your rotation.
And I feel like that is still valuable anyway.
Yeah, no, for sure.
I think there's a lot of...
One of the things that Echo likes to do is to put more of a strain on certain people.
They'd rather fight people doing a difficult job than the entire raid doing a medium difficulty
job, you know what I mean?
That makes sense.
So it's the same with this way that they do the charges as well.
It's very much, the players always charge the ads in one of two ways.
You either charge it to a world marker on the first set or you charge it directly through the boss.
There's no other thinking about it. You don't have to worry about your distance from the ad,
which is of course something that Liquid were doing.
I think that they kept with their strat throughout the entire thing,
because it was a very viable strat as well.
They got a six of one, half a dozen of another in terms of the differences between them.
They'll go very good.
So you can see with the players that they just do one or two things.
And it's up to Meris to make the choice of who is getting, which of the ads are going to be charging through the boss.
It's like all mental strain on him.
And the same thing, of course, with the banana strat, which is such a stupid name.
What probably best to say why it's called the banana strat is because they weren't listening to Roger.
Roger was calling out, okay, use the macro now and no one was listening.
No one was doing it properly.
He's like, okay, we need to make a code word for this.
So you guys actually listened to me.
They decided on banana.
So that's why it's literally it's got nothing to do with bananas at all.
Also, we also have a lot of bananas in the venue making sure that the players and the casters and everyone else involved here is high in potassium.
It's good for damage.
There's a lot of potassium deficiencies going around.
That would be awful.
Unfortunately, many going down, but like a Chad using the Ankh during the phase, I wouldn't have done that. I would have waited.
but no managing to survive, so unfortunate that we'd have Mini go down, but that's his own personal
reincarnation, nothing to do with the totem, so it's not going to count against us.
Anything, obviously, a bit of a damage loss for Mini there, but with the amount of damage we're
overall doing right now, we can afford small losses. We rather the impression you could probably
afford having Zoho dead for a minute and would say, yeah, probably still doable.
Which is crazy to think about because when we satisfied first, we're like,
This might be impossible.
Like the amount of damage you have to do is crazy.
There's no way...
No one actually step it's no way but...
I was like, this is psych super hard.
Question actually.
Because the players have gotten so good at doing their damage,
do you think you could just two tank it now?
No.
I don't think it's that good.
I don't think so.
No, no, no.
And save the Rezzers.
And all the Unk totem so you don't have to do shenanigans at the time.
close I still think that if we had that machine left that for a minute I still do
use I'm still thinking you don't have the damage yeah probably I don't think so
we're gonna be that for a minute and you still do it like I personally don't think
so but I would have to check it would be funny again so early analyst ask you
you did it but it's only because the pictures are already made if you ask me
to look anything up I'll be like nope I'm coming back it's too early for
numbers. I do like the idea that they've optimized to the degree that the previous optimizations
are completely useless but it is what it is. Honestly there's nothing really much for them
to talk about. I was speaking to Mike before the stream and he says he was watching Scrubb's
Poth yesterday because he went back to the hotel before they finished so he was watching
it from the hotel. And he was just saying how he was surprised that Scrubb wasn't
saying anything when people died. He was like, yep, go again. There's nothing, there's
no more to cook. They've worked it all out. They just need to execute it, right?
And if a player makes a mistake and everyone...
Because here's the thing, right? Sometimes players make mistakes.
They're the ones who say, okay, I just need to play better.
But sometimes the other people or scribe, they're like,
well, wait a second. Like, I know you're a good player.
Like, what caused you to make this mistake? Is there something we can optimize
to lower the chance of this mistake happening, right?
That there's many times there are things you can do
to lower the chances of players making mistakes, because it's not always about I'll just play better, right?
Yeah.
But at this point, it really is just a bit.
Just to play better?
Just to play better.
Yeah.
And there's also obviously no reason to just sit there and like, like, so why did you die?
You know?
Yeah.
Because I made a mistake, right?
There's no point in like discussing it.
And so, yeah.
But sometimes, like I assume that these guys are expecting their players to, if they are struggling with the mechanic consistently,
being able to point it out themselves and ask questions, you know what I mean?
I'm struggling with this, how are you guys not, you know, like what sort of wizardry
are you like using to get through this part of the fight, rather than having to
have even Rai-Scribe or Roger or any of the analysts take them aside and say,
look you're struggling how can we help you? It's better if the players ask
themselves for that help, but yeah I think we, you can tell right now at the
point where it's just like, unfortunate go again, that was just hard, or I made
a mistake, which is fair enough when you've been slamming the same balls
for 2 days straight, manages to rack up 255 pulls.
You certainly can't blame them.
No.
It's an incredibly different account.
It is a new morning and they hopefully are well rested and cut to a good night's sleep
so they are fresh and they can kill it any pull.
That's the thing about this boss, right?
You can kill it at any pull but if anyone goes down, you cannot use a battle rest
on them, you just have to go again.
And that can be really frustrating, right?
I feel like whenever you put this restriction on yourself through a strategy where you cannot use a Battle Rise on anyone, it just becomes infinitely harder and mentally as well, because you just want to play the fight, you just want to go, but then you see a player that, well, is going again, right?
Yeah, like having random death strat fight, it's so rare that on any progress kill, you get the clean kill where nobody dies, you don't use any battle res, as most people's progress kills, half the raid's dead, and have been for the last three minutes, you know, it's completely scuffed.
You can see Banana in action with all the evokas doing their bits and pieces there. Good stuff.
So yeah, but of course as you rightly pointed out that's not going to happen on this particular fight at all
It's gonna be very very rough three of the healers getting selected for the
Queensbane there something to keep an eye on any time that there is a mechanic that adds that Queensbane
Which is the debuff that then eventually explodes instead of this or a we do want to avoid that being on healers
If at all possible just because it normally when those debuffs are out
it's in that point of the fight where it is the most painful. So the healers want to be able to
sit in the meadow and do as much healing as possible. One healer getting it is okay. We have
seen the Chargers be on those menus too. I think even three healers sometimes. And sometimes it
honestly feels like at that point. So nope, never mind next pull. Which is some napping
on Farak as well with the, what was it? Some blazes. The Firestorms I think it is. So they
said if it went on healers at certain points when the healers were supposed to use their
cooldowns, that was it. It was alright. So doesn't seem to be as bad as that, but it's
they're definitely starting to keep an eye on. As it looks like, I believe that was the second set of charges,
we managed to clear all of the stacks from the adds, so we're just going to survive this upcoming overlap,
which is easier said than done, but they just need to get nice and grouped up, stack up, get a lot of healing in for these rifts,
because as they do pull in, they do a lot of raid damage.
Yeah, because why not? They felt like there is much, a lot of other things that do a lot of damage.
We should just have this one do a lot of damage too.
But there we go. The second intermission is starting. Voss is down to 41% looking very good on the damage, of course.
As we have to survive this intermission, which is not easy at all. Thankfully, on the second intermission, we're getting closer to that second battle that's been available.
Yes.
But still, a little bit far off, so you'll have to wait for that.
Are you gonna... Wait, is the combat timer not working? Yeah, I was like, I was looking at the combat timer and the overlander, and I was like, wait, this can't be true.
I don't know if that's something we can look at getting a refresh on.
So in 10 seconds we do have another Belarus available, which means if anyone would have
gotten down, we had a Belarus now, but no one did.
Everyone is still a light and healthy, as we do get that first set of debuffs here.
The portals are going to be pulled into your position through the evokers in just a moment,
and then we're going to get sucked, and then we have to get rid of those masks,
which is the last time that Mirus is going to die, where we had that Ankh-Totem
available, but Merus has to survive for a little while before he's allowed to die because of
the cooldown of the Unk Totem in 5 minutes. I've just been told by production not to curse this pull,
so pull is looking kind of crap, don't worry about it. Now it's very difficult for Merus to survive
this upcoming bit, so not only is he going to be tanking a lot here waiting for the Unk Totem
to come down, so there it is, but when he takes the Unk Totem back, he's only going to have
that 20% health. So he's going to come up, he's going to taunt, now there we go and thankfully
the rifts were already being placed allowing him that small amount of time in which he could release.
Unfortunately we do lose count x there too and all by belief but we did have the battle
res available but we've got to go through this one more time these charges really hurt and at
this point the boss is now going to have a permanent 30% damage increase so you can see
mirrors get absolutely trucked by this particular tank buster but otherwise just survive the
The daggers, these Queen Bane debuffs are going to be doing so much damage. If we can get everyone through this with Alive, it's a miracle more than anything else.
The healers are doing the Lord's work, trying to push everyone through to this. Ideally, looking at having the boss sub 10% as we go into the intermission, which looks like they're going to be able to achieve.
Going into this very last phase, okay, and now I would tab back in. Because at this point, the bosses are 80% going into the last phase.
We might be looking at a pretty good kill here if we can go to the full screen.
The mana of the healer is going to be incredibly low at this point.
We do see Ryzen go down. The Guardian Spirit has been procced.
Thankfully, he can't stay in the Spirit for a little while longer to heal everyone back up.
But we do see Frago go down as well.
They might still have enough damage as the boss is dropping lower and lower, and we still are close to that Enraged Ardors.
I do think this is 90 to 1.
100% again, an absolutely crazy amount of damage out as the boss is trying to take them out with the Eclipse.
But it's not enough as Echo and managed to catch up to Liquid as the boss goes down.
down, pool number 256 or so. And finally, 6 out of 8 achieved as the Nexus Princess
Cavesa. Oh, that was only a test, but still we get a loot.
Wow, that was incredible! It's crazy because this fight is so volatile, right? And you
see a good pool, then one person goes, that's it. But this time I was like, wow, this
might be looking good, it might be looking good. Don't want to jinx it, don't want
to jinx it. Don't want to jinx it.
Literally production telling me on that pool, don't curse it.
Don't curse it, I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna say nothing until the intermission.
And we were so far off the Enriched, they had so much time left.
This was actually insane, they had so much damage, it was so clean.
Look at the damage meter as well, and look at the smile on Muni's face.
Damn right, coming in for the last, what, 30 pulls and just casually topping the damage meters.
Been an exceptional player, really, really impressive.
Very clean.
Damn well done to the boys are very happy with that being able to catch back up
To liquid in terms of working on the same bus at the same time of course liquid has a good amount of time on the
What's gonna call it the eternal court silk?
Mixing the eternal palace up there as well. I don't know what these bosses are called
The eternal Naruba Palace of the courts
So we're gonna be seeing some hopefully some fresh stuff on there. There's no way they're gonna be going dark all day
Well, he says but I would be shocked if they do but no an incredible incredible pull from echo
Like almost perfection. We did lose Kaneks right in the very last phase
We had the res available and as soon as we went into the last phase rice and did die
I can't help but feel that from him because he's in that spirit of redemption form
It might have been like obviously a bit of a vibe
Just gonna sit in my angel form just gonna channel my abilities. This is the nicest time
time to know an excellent, excellent pool just goes to show that even if they did have
a little bit of a messy phase right at the very end, it was still so, so strong and many
wasting no time throwing that trash character in the bin, no more shaman coming straight
in on the DK.
If you know what's up, I assume that they already have a little bit of a comp in mind for
the upcoming boss.
Very likely.
One thing that I'm going to be pretty sure we're going to see is more warlocks.
I have a feeling of the needle seed warlocks.
I think to target Affliction is very strong.
Okay.
So I have feeling we definitely will this go in.
Maybe some more Warlock players personally, I think so at least.
The only problem of course with Warlocks is that their mobility not that great.
So and we all know that the mythic mechanics on that boss fight require quite a bit of ability.
So.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
We have to see how that goes.
It's going to be very, very interesting.
I don't know if actually it would be the right time to maybe pull up the graphic as to kind
of go over at least just at a surface level what we might be looking at for Silkencourt
in terms of the mechanical changes in the shop we have that available production but if we
do it...
We can't explain just like the boss just like in a word for us and then at the beginning
of the game there's a lot of people who just really don't know the facts at all.
Yeah I don't know it's very fair I suppose just very briefly what the graphics are
the um basically at the beginning of the fight half the raid will go team crab they'll go team go team spider
and if they ever touch each other they die as they're going to save it like away from each other at all
times but occasionally the red team will drop red orbs that the purple team need to go and soak and vice versa
so you need to move to each other's positions but without touching each other so you have this weird
sort of traffic jam game going on that's largely it and apart from that the um webs uh when you
We need to stun the boss that's charging across the room. That's our three reps and such two.
And if we ever get to phase two, we're going to have five debuffs to interrupt the Cataclysmic Entropy,
which is the cast that she's channeling, instead of the three debuffs that we had on normal in the road mode.
So they're like the major, major changes to this whole, like, what is it, Star Olga style mechanic going on?
Yeah, yeah, definitely kind of this. But yeah, the boss on the road in general, like, it looks very complicated and it is.
There's a lot of stuff, gang.
many things going on. But it's a two target boss fight, they share HP, so classes that can do a lot of
cleave damage or spread out damage as well. They're going to be very strong here because
even though you can stack up the bosses, there's no mechanic preventing you from doing so.
And they very often like charge around and they just can't stack them up all the time.
There's also sometimes where one of the bosses actually goes away and there's only one other
was active then in addition you also gain a damage increase on the bosses whenever you interact like
their main mechanics with the the charge that we talked about and with the dispel where you need
the five debuffs and that damage increase of course some classes doing much better that than others
oh of course the course are boss draw yes a k65 max wireless course keyboard available to you
with exclamation mark kiveza that's what you want to be typing into the chat right now exclamation
I hope you've been paying attention to how to spell these bosses' names.
If not, feel free to copy-paste someone else.
I don't think it is the version with the apostrophe.
Normally we don't do apostrophe ZX, so it's no apostrophe at all.
I'm gonna try it, it's like, what, KYV-ZA?
Maybe?
We'll find out.
This sounds correct.
Normally it'd be put on the teleprompter.
Because Mino spells so good.
I don't know what's going on.
So yes, no, do get that in a big shout-out to Corsair, of course, for giving us
It's also good used to give away as well as good players, all of the wonderful peripherals
and equipment that they are using here as well as at home, some incredible, incredible
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Yeah, I have a Corsair keyboard as well.
My Corsair keyboard has gone through more bottles of wine than I have, and it's still going.
So, I don't know how, I hope it's fantastic, so, yes, a K65 Max is available, exclamation
mark, Kyve Z. Only once, please, don't multiple typics, otherwise you'll
may very well get timed out or the bot might disqualify you so be careful oh and also yes
make sure your DMs are available and open yeah i guess there's a setting on twitch where you
can block DMs and then you won't be able to receive the giveaway because that's how we contact you
in case you're winning so definitely make sure those are open and now we're currently
figuring out the comp and talking about the boss a little bit so it's going to take a little
while before they start pulling we're probably gonna have some great plans that are being
opened on everyone's PC while Roger or somebody is going through the strategy at least initially
refreshing everyone's mind on what they're supposed to be doing, maybe also getting
certain weakerers up to speed and what not of course our weaker people have been working on those
for a long time. So whilst we are waiting for them to get the weakerers in place and do a lot
of work in the background we're going to throw it over to one of my favorite parts of every
race, which is the Starfall and
flashback as we look at some of
the highlights from yesterday.
So let's have a look.
My friend was coming over,
he's that guy who's always,
always winning at Mortal Kombat.
So I told him to get ducked.
Yeah. Even if the path was,
it was a little bit scuffed.
Yeah, you can see what happens
here with the internal night
with the damage just pulsing out
across the race.
So maybe now she doesn't die.
Look, there he goes there for.
That was crazy.
Woo!
It's a shenanigan.
We've been doing a little investigating.
I've got a scoop.
Something's going on.
Don't you tell me otherwise.
I've been, I know, I've been on the internet.
I don't know what's going on.
No, I don't.
We have no idea what's going on, but there is something suspicious.
Jijiji has been very much on form.
Who is getting through those gaps?
A new bet for Echo.
Wall life doing everything he can to get that boss that little bit lower.
Merez refusing to fall into the twisting nana.
But unfortunately, death comes swat all Merez.
as the boss down to 8.5% of Merrins, finally falling 8.74%.
A new best for Echo.
I think Rebez is about 78 years old.
That's my theory, because we've never seen him in person.
He's never come to any event.
He's been here for years.
He always rocks.
I guarantee he sits there with a cigar, a pint of bitter,
and a brown shirt.
Yeah, and he's just like, kill it, lost.
So what you need to do is every game
when you get into chat, you need a copy-pasted message.
And what it says is, dearest teammates,
I am much better than you are.
So if you could please just focus on playing around me,
that would be advisable.
If you do not do this, I will run it down
because you are wasting my time
and I deserve to be in challenge.
Time regards, and every time they make a mistake,
you copy-paste that, put it in again,
and if they mute you, you start pinging.
It's like, hey, I'm paying attention to you.
I was just wondering if kindly you could explain
why you are so trashed.
They sent me an Amazon wish list.
On it was one item.
Just a brook.
Ha!
It's legit, buddy.
Ha ha ha ha!
So Mitch has been hearing fountain footsteps
for weeks in a room occupied by Chris
and he's not doing anything at all.
Which leads me to believe that Jesse's a ghost.
please pull the boss 6.8 for the ball right now
this is going so well half the red remaining live with 5.7 we have a few
more seconds before the final eclipse hits and clears the floor
eight girls getting hit by the last one this is the big hit we'll have a few
people live narco live mirrors live nice means live rev is as well nice means
the last he's alive as the boss is at 5% running around at
Setherwok with the duck ticking. Oh, what a pull!
They should be very happy with that.
The boss going down sub 4%, 3.9% something,
smiles across the faces of the players in Echo.
I still feel like she would be worth trying.
And I don't know if that is reason to be.
I think it'd be worth trying one pull
where Kara was on the couch since every pull
since she sat down, it's in first.
Yeah, I'd like that.
Okay, I'll leave it.
Maybe at the desk, you're gonna take a little break.
The question is, will they can- NO!
She stayed on the couch too long!
She'll be back tomorrow around 8, for the show to pick back up.
Thank you everybody, goodbye.
I call for the show to end, Mitch.
Poor Jesse, he completely don't know all the legos I've said.
I left the broadcast and was talking to Mitch.
Are you distracting him?
Yeah, I was talking to Mitch as Jesse was like trying to finish at the show,
just there, since the camera.
That was great.
Oh that is funny. Big shout out to Stafford for an amazing flashback, of course Chris for editing it, always coming out with some amazing edits so...
I still get back and I watch him from previous races as well, these are always fantastic and they only get better.
Yeah, I love it.
Oh man.
Yeah, we have killed Quesa.
Echo is now standing in front of... not the princess anymore, it is now... a crab and a spider.
As it always will be.
We have actually chosen a winner, please do check your DMs.
I haven't been... say again?
What's the name?
Never mind, we're not allowed to know the name.
I got told the name, but the name was just as I was speaking, so I could hear it properly.
So we do check your DMs.
Right, okay, so yes, you've got to make sure that you do check your DMs nice and quickly,
because yes, we need to be able to get this out.
So thank you very much everyone who has participated. I can't believe that the boss is dead that soon. What time is it?
What time do we even kill it? It's not it's just a nine. Yeah, they're good at what about half past eight eight thirty
That's crazy. That's nuts. It is so good as well. I guess getting that kill out of the way quickly
Getting so much progression on to this boss now and we're still streaming. Yeah, I don't see a Nord VPN
If the Nord VPN thing comes up as I'm gonna go in there. I'm gonna start a fight
Okay, I'm gonna go in now start a fight and I'll lose the fight very quickly, but I'll stop
The world does have to know I'd get the tin full out everything. I don't care
Now I'd be surprised we got two whole days of this
I think it'll be silly to hide it at this point
But then again, I thought a lot of their times in which they've gone dark have been an interesting choice, shall we say?
One that I don't necessarily agree with, but hey, how it is what it is.
We're not the ones making decisions.
Nope, and they'll do what they think is best in order for them to win.
Of course, we want to be showing you as much of progress as we can.
But obviously, information is a very, very powerful asset for both teams or all teams that are involved in the race.
So being able to, you know, see what the other team is doing and take the best bits of their strats,
or sometimes just copying it whole, you know, if it's just flat out superior.
Which I mean, you don't see too often, I would say.
It's only just take bits and pieces, normally comp stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
I do think that on this boss in particular, I think this boss is very strategy heavy.
Like I think I think there's because obviously because of the
making mechanic where you have the rate divided in half
and then you have to like soak the other team's orbs.
I think because you determine where the orbs
to the most drop because they drop on characters' positions, which are hit by a certain mechanic,
and the mechanics are time-based. So I think it can be very scripted. The only thing that is,
of course, random is where the boss is charging and teleporting. So where you are in the rooms,
I was going to be a bit different, but the players still position themselves wherever they want
to. So I do think that a scripted strategy or a very choreographed movement
could be like possible on this fight and therefore stealing strategies between
or stealing copying strategies between the girls
you're right I think it is a fight which is going to be incredibly
dependent on a particular system being implemented I do wonder though that it
does also feel like it's very open to lots of different strategies it isn't
like there is only one the best move and we saw that the difference
liquid and echo on the previous boss as well. Well, liquid had a very different way of dealing with the charges as an example where to place the portals and echo had their own strap.
I hope that's where they go again. I love seeing the differences between them because, you know, I would say liquid and echo is strategy.
You could say, oh, yes, echo killed the boss far, like, soon in terms of full count, or oh, and liquid actually got the kill before echo in terms of this.
I would say, trying to be as neutral as possible, the strategies look pretty damn similar, like in terms of the effectiveness, maybe there's small improvements here or there.
I just want to see what they can do on this fight, because you're entirely right, it's so important that we get a movement system build.
And I wonder, is that once a movement system has been implemented and everyone is clicked with it, maybe even if the other team's movement system is 5%, 10% more efficient,
It might not be worth stealing from them because you're so used to your own
I can see it may be being that complicated where every single second of the fight
You already know roughly what your movements going to be just because of how you got to stay away from the enemy team
That is very possible. We still have some switches going around from for the rate comp here and them discussing how they're gonna play this fight initially
Let's talk about the boss again a little bit
We do see the two boss of course a share HP