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Everyone, welcome back to the stream.
We covered a lot today.
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Hello and good morning everybody and welcome to the race to wall first where I go here at the SK magenta facility.
I'm here with medic.
Oh it's sleepy.
Yeah I didn't want to like, because I was a little bit energetic, I was like really hype and I was like I have to call myself down so I'm not like waiting anyone up.
As you wake up in the morning on this beautiful sunny Friday, remember you are worthy, you are valid and you are important.
It was very beautiful to like when I walked to the venue today, which is the only like walk I do outside
Yeah, I saw like the sunrise through the windows like, oh
I'm never gonna see this one again for the rest of the day. Yeah, that's how it works
I mean, I'm gonna see the sun because I'm gonna be flying, right?
We'll be flying today unless it's all cloudy outside, which I maybe I think I also have an aisle seat
Which is less sunny usually than the window seats kind of because you're not that close to the window
It makes sense when you think about it.
We're getting to that time of year as well when it gets darker, which I quite like, but
then I get to spring and summer and I realize maybe I didn't like it as much as I thought
I did.
I do like it being sunny at night.
It's a weird experience.
Interesting.
Kind of trained myself into thinking that I like winter, which I do.
I do enjoy the cold and I like snow and all of that.
I like winter too.
It's nice when it's sunny.
I just dislike the darkness of it.
If we could have the sun of summer in the winter, but with the cold of winter, yes, I would actually
like that.
Clear winter days, that's what we're aiming for.
Clear winter days when you go outside and you like breathe in, it's like very fresh air.
Yes.
Love that.
For you this morning, a clear winter mind, no clouds in the sky, just peace and serenity.
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Now breathe in through your mouth, out through your nose.
Think about nothing...
and death.
Go death!
We love it here at Echo.
There's a lot of it happening.
Unfortunately not for Queen Antara at any time soon, apparently.
I mean, or fortunately for her, if you're her.
I don't think she wants to die, you know?
Have you ever thought about the fact that perhaps these creatures want to live?
I mean, I actually did think about this, because I'm actually a little bit...
Okay, so I'm not a Queen Anstrak fan, necessarily, but I'm a Xcelotov fan.
Okay, sure, I'm a Xcelotov fan.
And I would root for her if I could.
I would help her out.
You can.
It's difficult.
You can go into pugs and just deliberately, like,
rescue people off the platform, swap blast the people.
The problem is I also want items,
a little bit of a weird relationship with the game right now.
So I want to kill the creatures to get the items
because I want to be powerful, but at the same time,
I know that when I'm doing that,
I'm not helping so tough.
You could be more like Kvesa, where she infiltrated,
did get a lot of items because you can loot them from her.
But she's also kind of, she's not helping Kvesa,
but she's helping someone.
So if you could kill a new Barash or Takash,
then you can be the new blocker, you know?
Unfortunately they share health, otherwise it would be great if I could just kill one.
Yeah, which one would you kill?
You have to figure out a way to kill only one.
I would have to listen to their arguments first to make a decision,
because I don't know what they're thinking, what their plans are,
what their goals are, their political views.
Understandable.
But we can sit down and have an argument, listen to both sides.
You could just have a discussion before you have the argument,
if you want to. You don't immediately have to go to... I mean, I can understand looking at them,
but it's probably going to be an argument, but you're welcome to have the discussion first.
I'm going to have a discussion first. You're very reasonable. I appreciate that about you.
That is great. All the meditation we've done this morning really
centered me. And we do have a flashback to yesterday though with our Starforge flashback,
so let's have a look at that before we move on to hopefully some Anstrec pulls.
just three words three devastating words beans and milk no no don't put that out
the way peas no peas not quite peas not quite beans but something special in
between it's one of the hardest things to say with a straight face in
medical school is. I think you have a Q10 Jaina.
She should be there.
Goodbye!
But we saw face too! That's exactly what we wanted to see! Well done!
So horde biased, they can't even make Jaina one-shot you with her IC beams,
because the Alliance are busy.
On Merus' screen it's a little bit different next to Queen Ancerrex Health Bar
in the bottom middle. There are all the spells that are around to come up
and then hope for a screen as well above Queen Ancerrex Health Bar.
Oh, switch back to nice moves right at the top middle and now back towards the bottom
Christian screen is just above the health bar. We're back to Jinji top right is where we're looking to mini now
Just above where Queen answer X health bar you can see a couple of abilities, but then also on the left and then on
Canex's screen. I have no idea where I'm looking right now
Well done excellent progress me off of that first
Does it bother you that okay
Dives to a level 6 pig and probably can't do how far it's set, though.
I've never played content before. Why are you outing me, Mike?
Got a lot of beans in stock. Tuky beans, necessity beans, gravanto beans,
spout beans, sweet beans, Giganta beans, great northern beans,
skinny beans, long beans, mung beans, pinto beans.
I thought you'd be the bean expert, girls. Why?
Yeah, from the land of the bins. Jesus Christ.
Yeah, that's my amazing ritual.
I've been jacked to the jujitsu now.
Weena boys!
Weena boys!
How much do you like children?
Children?
The good thing is, the good thing is perfect to pass the vibe check.
The correct answer to that was, huh?
In three, two, one, send it.
And you're gonna feel something tingling on the back of your tongue, you're feeling that?
I just feel it everywhere!
I've never seen that bad!
I am fucking dying!
So here come the trampolines, and we're gonna shut up.
And as you can tell, flick your fingers though, Fett.
Unfortunately we lose some more players here.
Fett, blink, blink, Fett!
Towards them, so they have to make sure they're full.
Full?
Full.
Full?
Full!
Full?
Full?
Wow, okay, this is a scary thing.
Oh David screening for him. That was amazing. What just happened by the way? Good. That was the most extraordinary pull we have seen in months. 47!
Incredible.
I'm fucking new it man.
Yellow breach, it's me, The Rat.
777, 777.
777, 777, 777, 777, 777, 777, 777, 777, 777.
It's just getting hilarious, right?
777, 777, 777, 777, 777, 777, 777, 777, 777.
Wow.
Yeah.
777, 777, he's going.
We have 2.5 hours here, you just do that for the entirety of it.
That kind of imitates what it's like to be a streamer when Twitch jackets going.
Yes, I was at the gym when Alex and Jordan did this whole thing where they're just not
going to talk and they're just going, mm-hmm, yes.
And I did not hear the bit where they introduced what they're going to do.
And I just heard that, mm-hmm, and I was like, what is happening?
Cool vibes on a Friday morning.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Howdy.
But, now that we are back in the raid you can see there is 20 people in there and all cores.
BOE farming time guys, there's two mobs here, 30 minutes later they'll respawn.
You never know.
Go do some heroic splits lads, let's go.
Cat-X needs more gear.
I mean, Nile's Paladin actually does need more, I wonder if he did stay up a bit longer, woke up earlier, maybe do some in plus, maybe people have him out, but yeah, he definitely is lacking some gear, because they didn't think that they're gonna need that Paladin, but of course freedom being so good in phase one.
But yeah, let's recap a little bit what happened overnight, because of course we've been sleeping,
so have the players as well.
Some of the players, most of the players, some people of course, have been awake to figure
out strategies for the last phase.
But while we were asleep, Liquid of course was awake with the different time zones
and they've been pooling the boss, they're now up to 234 pools in total and they got
the boss to 35.4% in phase 3 and we've gotten some more information.
I watched their post a little bit before I came on and we did see that there's gonna be five acolytes in the last phase.
Yeah.
It's three, four, five.
And I'm not sure how you survived that, because you did the math yesterday.
You have three folks go through, drop their debuffs, they can't pick up another debuff.
For four minutes, right? Just to explain.
So if you pick up an acolyte, so each acolyte drops an essence.
Yes.
After you kill them.
And these essences, they, whenever this ring comes out, where you have to use the portal
to survive the ring or you blink over it or whatever these essences they cannot
touch the ring otherwise you wipe yeah and these essences are mythic don't
appear so you have three acolytes first which drop three essences those three
essences have to be picked up by players those three players cannot pick up
essence anymore for the rest of the fight then the next wave of acolytes
bonds it's four acolytes now they die they drop four essences plus the
three from the previous ones plus the three people that have a deal of
already so then three seven new people have to pick it up so that's not a
second ring and now you have 10 people with the debuff now the next wave is
five now we have a problem we have because we have 12 to pick up and 10 with
the debuff Skype's gonna sub in yeah some people that talks about
immuneing it and like maybe immune the yeah I think you can immune like the
Damage that it does to you and then taking it through and then dying immediately afterwards
But I I'm not smart enough to work this out
Yeah, you know some people said maybe the tanks can pick it up and survive the damage
Maybe I haven't looked at exactly how much the damage was for thousand or thousand. Actually, it's one thousand
percent oh one thousand percent okay, yeah, because if you
If it's just 4000 damage I think anyone can tank back
Yeah, yeah, yeah
I think it's 1000% more, I might be right
1000% more damage
I mean maybe a tank with good DRs
I don't know
I mean if it's immutable
If it's immutable
Because apart from that it feels like 5 acolytes is just the heart in rage
Because like how do you take them through
But then how is it the heart in rage when we still have at least 30-40% of the boss left to kill at that point
Yeah, and then you also have to remember that if a person with the essence goes through the portal, it closes the portal.
Yep.
So, like, if 20 people have an essence, you have to, like, all go through the portal simultaneously.
Which is very difficult.
It is very difficult.
But if you don't make it, you don't make it, and that's your fault.
This is true.
You should have clicked the portal quicker, you know?
Yeah, it's gonna be a really tricky one.
I'm looking forward to getting some P3 progress again from Echo today.
obviously you know probably if the boss starts looking like it can die it's very
possible they extend tonight and we have a late one if it's still looking at
like we're at 20% we're not quite sure what we're doing
oh so get that's 20 still a little bit behind compared to others but it's not
too bad anymore I mean he's got it's so pretty it's still five item level
behind where he wants to be.
Yes.
Yeah, it's okay.
And that's what's bringing Echo's overall eye level down
because obviously Liquid slightly ahead at the 625.3.
Kush is bringing it up on the other side
because he has a 628 rogue right now.
He got double daggers off Kvesa,
so he's very, very happy.
If he doesn't top the damage meters, we must complain.
How are you not topping the damage meters, Kush?
You have the highest eye level.
Not in the world.
I think fired up is slightly higher than him,
bit close to it close to it yeah so we it is a thousand percent for four minutes
that it take increased damage off the essence so just double check also the
essence leaves a deep a dot behind 15 seconds and of course when we talked
about immunities there is no immunity they last 15 seconds so you can mean the
first half yeah you can mean a little bit of it then die afterwards or you mean
a little bit of it and then mitigate the rest like for example with like now
could maybe bubble start and then somehow like survive the dot for a little
while well see it is interesting that it's 22 right like it's only two people
that have to pick it up with leave of which would indicate okay that's a
tankstrap right so yeah I mean that would make sense but I just want to say
that this boss seems incredibly difficult in the last phase like people
yesterday have been saying oh like especially I was surprised that
perfecto was sitting here and he's like oh last phase looks kind of simple
It's like the boss has no help and I was just like really
Getting in there with the boss at 60% HV
Cuz now
When I talk to other people there's a lot of people that think that the boss is actually I guess too much help
Mm-hmm, and you won't be able to to get through all of it
Well until someone gets below 30% its medic phase at 30% until someone gets below that is 25%
20, then 15, then 10 and then eventually will realize you just have to kill Queen Ancerok.
Maybe all you have to do is just get the boss HP to 0 without any shenanigans.
Have they ever done hidden damage amps?
No.
No.
Yeah, like usually, because yeah, a lot of people are saying there's no way this
boss has to go to 0 or there's no way there's nothing special happening.
But it would be weird if the boss like dies early.
Yeah, I agree, but I was wondering if there's like maybe there's a specific overlap or something that they're not doing that would increase their damage or they're not seeing
Yeah, that would be like a special mythic mechanic, which it could be that there is something that oh once you get all
20 yeah, once your whole very dissapoint
Everyone does 10% increase damage or something. I don't know
It is possible
I'm just reaching it short. It's like Europe, but well it's just trying to find any way that we can get a win, you know
Yeah, I mean, yeah
It's very strange because of course we also don't want Blizzard to
nerf bosses, right? And I'm not
Saying that they have to we have to see more to face before we can make any kind of judgments
But of course bosses have been nerfed in the past at Blizzard during the Rizzle first the very end the main reason for
for nerfs happening on the last boss is usually because they don't want the boss to die around
reset time. They don't want to have the naegles at the reset, get the gear and then just kill
a boss. Because then obviously EU wouldn't stand a chance because they don't have that extra
gear, they don't have access to it. So if we near the end of the ID and the boss
is still not going down or not close to going down, then boss is like, maybe we
I don't know if they're boss HP for a little bit.
Yeah, but we're still looking at quite a lot of bits.
Yeah, that's the problem.
Yeah, 35% on Liquid after they had the extra day-ish, the extra time to practice it.
They were looking very good until they got to phase 3, and then it was looking incredibly sketchy on that pool.
It becomes just so difficult, especially with the shackles overlaps and the blades.
You don't just get two shackles anymore. You get three, then you get four, then we assume you get five as well.
Yeah, that's the thing, right? Because we're talking about the boss HP being so high and, like, not sure how they're gonna kill it, but it's not just that, it's also the mechanics seem incredibly difficult.
So even if they manage to get through the mechanics, which seems super, super, super hard, then the boss is still only in, like, 25% if even, you know?
I was like, hmm, interesting.
Not sure what we're gonna do here. We'll just try and work it out.
But it is only Friday. By the way, happy Friday everyone.
Objectively the best day of the week, of course.
Saturday.
Yeah, no.
Can't believe you say that, Nagora.
Can't believe it.
No, Friday, like, every week Friday is the best day of the week.
See, to me, Friday is like the middle of my working week usually.
Because my working week is Wednesday to Monday.
So I get Tuesday off.
Well, he's the thing, Friday is flexible.
You don't your Friday doesn't have to be the actual Friday. See just how I see it
You know so you're saying your day off your day before your day is the best day
If it's only one day off then the day before a small Friday if you have two
days off it's normal Friday and if it's a day before like a vacation or a
long time off then it's big Friday. Okay I only ever really have small
Fridays. Yeah today's your small Friday then. Yeah although tomorrow is just
spent working as well so it's not yeah so it's not Friday at all for you no it's
also not Friday for me yeah when was your last Friday long time ago I don't
want to talk about it it don't really appear that much
where are these Fridays people have been talking about yeah anyway if anyone
that is watching has a big small or normal Friday today congratulations
Congratulations! Happy Friday to you!
Yeah, Friday of course still some days left before the reset, so we'll see.
Yeah, we will. All we can really tell is from when they start pulling.
It's like have they have Echo brought up something new? Is there something that we're not seeing about these
debuffs? What are we calling them? Essences? Essences is nice, yeah.
Something new about these essences that's been worked out overnight.
Will we see somehow Echo just get down to like a 20% or like if you get through that phase
Obviously there's still a lot of discovery to do but if you can get through it
You can't start putting damage into the boss and select is I she's relatively squishy generally
I know she has a lot of health in terms of percentage, but it's only seven billion in total which is like yeah
It's high
It's not a lot of overall health. It's just that you cannot attack her sometimes
In submission 1 and phase 2.
And in phase 3 there's all of these adds to their spawning.
So if this was like a princess kind of SF word, you know, just one boss, nothing else,
and you can always attack them, it's not that much.
But unfortunately, there's points in the fight where you don't really want to focus that much on her,
or she's literally just not there.
She's like, yeah, I'm out of here.
Maybe that's the way to follow her up her web.
Hmm, did they think about this?
Yeah, have you used the mining, you've done the mining tool daily,
where you have to climb up the box.
Maybe it's something like that, where that guy comes in.
If you've done enough of those dailies,
he comes in and is like, you can grab on to AntoXside
and just follow up.
That'd be so funny, they all have to go up and level their climbing
and get all of these special items that you can get for it.
This is the boss design I bring to Blizzard.
Hi, I mean.
To get rid of the AoE farming, right?
It's climbing farming.
And you have to fight her like little spider pets, so you have to do a pet battle, you have to climb up and then pet battle.
Have you done a pet battle?
I've done one and I hate them, they're so bad.
Apparently the strategy, there's a specific comp you can run all level one, they just killed everyone.
But your highest level that you take into the battle will be the level of all the other pets in the battle, so get everything in a level one.
I know how to min-max it, I just have never done it.
Yeah, it's it's I don't like all of these like mini games that they put into the game
Well, actually, I don't hate all of them. But yeah, there's a bunch of mini games like the pet battles PvP
Stuff like that PvP's a mini game
Anyway, there's an AWC team somewhere very angry at you
It does
I thought it was Friday. Is it Saturday? Oh NA today. So later. Yeah, it'll be even. It'll be tomorrow for us
It's a little bit of a meme because I think I'm not sure if it started with Mplus being called a minigame or PvP
One of those things. I mean everything compared to raids is a minigame, right?
Raids are the only maxi game
True. Yeah, if you think about it that way
You could say open world RPG
or if the only max game. Anyone not RPing in the open world is failing Blizzard as a gamer.
Have they been to Goldshire?
No, I have no idea where that is. Is that where the Hobbits are from?
You don't know, you don't know. You should check it out though.
Whenever someone says you should check out this basement, I'm generally quite cautious.
It should be.
Really?
It is quite interesting that I'm there.
I'm even more cautious. There are enough basements in Berlin. I've been close to a few of them. Like no, thanks
It's a climbing gym. That should be
Can't believe we didn't have this as a donation goal
Going on an RP server to Goldshire basement. That is actually that's a great
That's a great goal for the future though
No, do that for next race to work first because I'm likely not gonna be here so I can just watch
People be embarrassed
all of the chat bubbles would just be blacked out.
Is that like the Burkheim equivalent in...
What is that?
Oh, Burkheim. It's a really famous club in Berlin.
Oh.
Very exclusive. Lots of like BDSM sort of stuff.
Oh.
And it's just like the very like...
So it's RP servers like people actually are there, right?
I mean, Gulltide, that's just where they meet to do things.
No one.
Playing Yu-Gi-Oh!
What's to speak about?
That sort of stuff.
Is there a card game in World of Warcraft?
Can you play Hearthstone in World of Warcraft?
That's my question, I guess.
I mean, there's like this Hearthstone toy,
which I think, like when you put it down,
it's actually a Hearthstone board that comes up,
but you don't actually play it.
It's just like some.
They should introduce that.
I think I would spend more time playing Hearthstone.
I don't spend a lot.
I play in WoW.
Like actual Hearthstone in WoW?
Yeah.
Like it opens up like a smaller screen.
I summon Bran.
And it's like, he's a big Bran.
Yeah.
Oh, thank you.
That would be very funny.
I do like the puzzle games that they put into WoW though.
Like the lay lines and like the, you know, to click on them and the orbs turn in a different color,
whatever you have seen some of them.
Yeah, the ones in Delves.
Yeah, they're in Delves and they have them like as world quests and like stuff like that.
I was just randomly for like to open a chest or whatever in the world.
Those are fun. I don't like the pipe one, the one where you have to...
Oh!
...move things around. For some reason my brain just never gets those.
I can do the lay lines and the orbs ones pretty easily, but the pipe one, my brain just...
It doesn't compute. Also, sometimes I press one and I might...
It should go this way and then it doesn't go the way I wanted to and it makes me sad.
I get it. I had the same thing. Like this doesn't make sense.
Why does it go... I don't... I wanted to go the other way.
Exactly. It's very frustrating.
If your friend at home needs help with the puzzle games,
Tweet at us.
At Nogura.
Hey, here's my puzzle game solve for me, please.
And the bot will get back to you.
There was actually, like some time ago at General Palace,
some years ago, there was a world quest where you actually had to do world
quests for player power.
And one of the world quests was a, like a puzzle where,
it's like, I think it's called like, Viguald,
where you have like different colored,
Icons, gems and when you click on them and there's at least three, they get consumed and
the other ones like fall down.
And the puzzle was to get five in a row or six was it?
Like six to the same colors in a row and it was actually kind of difficult.
And people weren't able to do it.
So there was, you saw like so many people standing there because when you play the
game you carry to just stand still, right?
And then it opens up and you walk up through a world quest and there's just like
thousands of you standing there and you can just like they can't do it and it
just keeps going it's like hours later they can't do it and then they had to
nerf it. Wow that's a mega easier. Yeah that's what I like Dragon Voting because you can
choose the advanced course. If you want to do the simple one, do the simple one.
Leaking me like I will do the hard one, thank you very much. I would love that for
these quizzes as well for these puzzles. I would love to have like a hard
It's all that we're kind of easy, you know and you just get like a couple more valestones if you do the
Yeah, you don't need it like a much bigger. I don't care. I just
I want a slightly bigger face. I just
Because otherwise my brain will just go. Why are you doing the hard one? Just the easy one
What if you just get like a message in the chat that says
You're great. You're much better. Would that be enough? No, that wouldn't be enough for me. I need tangible rewards
even if it's something very small like a resonance crystal just one that's all I need
have you got anything with your resonance crystals yet apart from the whatever the gear that you could get
at the start with no I don't even know what they do you can get mounts with them oh yeah I'm not
that like collector literally anything other than player power okay I'm kind of you know I don't
I I never really care for mounts and for pets because I
To me like what I didn't understand is why people collect the monster. They're not pretty I
Get I have to speak like that. They're all pretty
Yeah, I disagree okay, well that's a loud
So I saw all these miles like why would I want it? It's not pretty and
Same with like other stuff like collectibles and with transmogs
I'm like I have this one transmog that I far I'm like five years ago
It's nice. Why would I have a different one? Well, because you can get the Sylvanas one now, so
Well, it's the Sylvanas one pretty. I don't know. Can we bring up the Sylvanas transport, please?
producers they're the one from the
Vendor, what's it called trade trade thing?
trade post that one you don't have to farm for but it is very pretty and can we get Alunera up, please
It's a mount that one see if you don't find this mount pretty this is the mount I farmed for where I was
prepping for world first
I farm this now and it is probably the prettiest now also the b-mount is very cute you can farm for that
The b-mount?
The b-mount, have you not got the b-mount yet?
I don't think so
You only need 900 next to things
I'm not doing that
But the little coin you get so the b-farm people do anyway because often it's part of a world quest
And you can b-farm to get Alunera
You don't do any world quests?
No
How do you complete your askahead weekly?
I don't do my askahead weekly
That gives you player power!
It doesn't
Yeah it does?
How?
You get Valor stones and you can get a bit of gear.
But do you ever get Valor stones and then plus?
I mean you can, but you say to do only things that, I mean not always, but yes.
And you can get them out from it, which is powerful for your motivation to play the game.
I don't know, I can't believe you do no world quests.
Well that's before the raid came out, but now that then plus is available, it's just not,
like it doesn't give you more than if you would spend your time playing in plus instead.
But you can do world quests while you queue for M plus.
That is true. I will be able to do a lot of world quests before I get invited to a key.
Yeah, so why don't you just do world quests?
Because I'd rather just afk the main city and complain about not getting invited to a key.
Or be like, hey stream, anyone here got a plus 27, Mr. Alineera for me?
Oh that's the...
It's the Sylvanas Transmog.
You don't like that? You look like Sylvanas. I guess if you're not like a hunter it's kind of like...
And I do love Sylvanas, I mean she's great.
I did replace her a little bit now with Xalatath, like she was my favourite before.
So if there was a Xalatath transmog, would you farm it?
I would probably farm that.
This is what I want to have.
It just looks so cool, you know?
Although I have these really cool shoulders at the moment on my Drag Faire that have like this blue fire that comes off them.
Okay, that is pretty cool.
I love Wonders Animations.
I didn't farm those, but that's just what I equipped this item with.
Yes.
I sometimes do this thing where you know when there's a new patch coming out or a new expansion
I of course you replace a lot of your items sure and
All of us like at some point I'll have all of these new items and they don't fit together at all you care
That looks like shit and the mount by the way
That's a pretty amount now. It is
Yeah, I like it. Yeah, it's pretty more than you can farm it
I just need 10 crackling shots.
The problem is also that I'm a druid, so I have flight form, which I can just go into.
So boring!
Oh, a flight form! I can become a raven!
No, it's not because it's pretty, it's because I don't do it for class immersion, where I'm like,
oh my farts and I'm flying around. It's because it's instant. You press it and you're in it.
You don't have a cast time, you know? It's just so much more convenient.
And have you thought about not being a druid?
I mean I do play my warlock once in a while.
Nagini is doing great.
You could have a little amount.
Yeah for Nagini I could...
This is not a big right?
Yeah I agree.
Why did you call your secondary character Nagini?
Well because it's a warlock.
They cast Agni.
Ah that's smart.
That's smart.
So if you were to make another ult, would you name it after an ability that they
cast?
If it would make sense with my name
You'd have neko
Is your preservoko because they cast neko?
Or if there's a vampire that could also be neko. Yeah, yeah
Very good, and I'm gonna consult you whenever I do make an alt in probably around ten years
Yep, and I also don't know any of the other ability names from preservoko, so you have nekruul anomaly
I mean, Nemerald Communion!
That's a great name!
Nasis!
It just sounds like a link.
It's like Stasis.
Right?
Did that sound rude?
I didn't intend it to in any way.
No.
Sam said, what?
I feel like I said something closer to the line than I intended to.
But, anyway.
We shouldn't try and work it out
try and get down that it's it's the same thing with people donates which is a
League of Legends yeah hey they waited for the mob series spawn B.O.E.
farming B.O.E. farming
actually did but did they never kill them I'm not sure there's two dead in the
middle yeah but they're not queens guys are they like yeah maybe flavor this I
don't know why would they be dead here okay let's think about the lore
Who are these? It's Queen Scar, Ressa and Queen's Guard, Gesang.
So I assume they are...
Who's Katie Threadmonster?
Also why they are here. I thought that the Silicon Chord was the second hand to the Queen.
But now there are two more Queen's Guards.
Oh, so they're just like lowly guards?
Yeah, they're just guards.
Okay, again, I guess.
But how did the enemies get so close?
What did the Silicon Chord do?
do? Well, they may be busy fighting each other, let everyone go through all the way up to the
boss basically. It looks like they're weavers and such, right? So maybe they came in and
were like, Hey, we have these wonderful bits of yarn to show to the Queen. And then they
showed them to the Queen and Queen was like, bad not good enough. Or they tried to assassinate
her or something. There must be law here. I'm sure Nobble has done a great video
on it. But I don't know any of it. Yeah. What do you think about a lore? What do you be a
lore person? I like lore, but I don't want to dive really deep into the lore. So I really
like the idea that Kevesa is talking to someone else, but I'm not so invested in it that
I need to find out who that other person is. Okay, yeah. You know, I like the fact
that T'Kaz and Anubraash are fighting each other. I think that adds lore and then
the fact they use their abilities against each other is cool, but I don't need to know what
the backstory of them fighting each other is. I think lore adds a good dimension, but I'm
not someone that needs to find out stuff outside of what I can just find in the game naturally.
Yeah, that makes sense. So you wouldn't buy like a book or whatever?
Yeah, like League's had a book for a while called Ruination, which is apparently
very good, but I don't really, I haven't read it, you know?
Okay.
Maybe I just don't want to be there.
It's interesting because I've never been into WoW lore at all.
Yeah, because it just increases your item level.
But then at some point people got very upset.
They thought I'm trolling because there's like a cutscene or whatever
and I watched it on stream and there's like a really famous character
and I just didn't know who it is.
I was like, who is this person?
They're like, oh it's Anduin.
And I'm like, who's that?
Like genuinely not knowing.
And everyone thought I'm trolling.
He's like, you're trolling, right?
And I'm like, no.
And they got so angry with me.
Like, they were actually angry about it.
It's strange.
Well, I guess I'm gonna like read into the lore
a little bit.
So I tried to like catch up on the lore a bit,
but I got bored, because I mean,
there's a reason why I don't know the lore
because I'm just not interested, right?
But then I came across some of these
content creator videos about the lore.
And I think I think was Talisman that did a video about like some cutscene
And it was so interesting to me how he made this like 20-minute video about like a
20-second cutscene and then he had all of these like theories like because this and that happened maybe
She was standing behind there because and then like all of it is like wow
Read all of that from this is 20 seconds and I felt that was interesting now
Yeah, I would never be able to know that much in a lore and I'm also not interested to go and do the research now
But I still like thought okay
It's a cool thing that there are people that know so much and they can dissect like very small like things and just have all of these like a
very
Creative ideas on why this maybe happened and like on what could happen in the future
I thought it was interesting it is very cool
And I think like it's about where you invest your time in your knowledge, right?
For example, I could show you an M plus key and you could be like, oh, they move this way specifically to avoid this thing
And to do this thing right and that's where your knowledge is whereas for them
Their knowledge is based in the law like TV scion does some really good
Animation and law breakdowns for league and I really enjoy their videos
But I'm not going to sit there and be like oh now I know this I can extrapolate to the end to degree this thing
Yeah, it's just not when my time once it will be very funny though
If you would start doing that on like a like a world in the middle of a world
Did you know?
Every now and again, if the game's slow, we'll be like,
ah, did you know the lore behind Nautilus?
But usually it's a 30 second long snippet that's wrong.
I just kind of make it up as I go along,
as you can tell from what we've been doing here.
It's just vibes.
Is that loop beneath them?
Actually.
Oh, no, yeah.
So I've seen these things in raids.
click them and then you need like some sort of profession level 25 to be able to use them
and I still don't know what it does.
Well it's the monthly tithe left to Queen Anubarash, Anubarash, answered by the Weaver's Guilds.
That's what you can see a gem in the top but underneath that the skeins that were spun
by Dakarj softly prevent scratches on the checks that were originally presented to
her by Anubrash when he joined the court 57 years ago. Sad because the lifespan of the
average Neroobian is actually only 72 years. So he's been in that court for 92% of his
life. Oh no. And he's going to be over soon as well. His mother was the great, great,
great, great aunt of Anubrash's, of her Ansorex mother. Oh no. And then that makes
sense why they're fighting now because of course Ansorex did kill her mother, which
Which means that the Anubarash is probably not too happy about that one.
Probably didn't have a start to talk about that afterwards.
And Takahj keeps reminding him of that.
And he's like, no, I'm loyal to Queen Ancerek.
Takahj, you're pissing me off now, it's time to fight.
That's exactly what happened in the lore.
Yeah, that is exactly what happened.
I don't know why we showed up at eight o'clock.
Because obviously then I'm going to start the raid until like nine.
I need to talk about things.
Well, it's interesting because yesterday when I left,
because we had the last shift yesterday,
Jesse was the Nala's desk and Perfecto
and Preach were casting with me.
And I think like a bit after 10, they stopped the raid
and they said that they will come in here
and start running at 7 a.m.
And then they talk to production, it's like,
oh, should we come in at seven around?
I was like, no, we're gonna start at eight.
We're just gonna do some comps for like that hour and then I came in here today
And I saw the Raiders downstairs having breakfast like what's going on?
Yeah, I think we should start a riot. Yeah, you fall on riot. Yeah
Can I make another coffee?
Am I allowed to make another coffee?
I wouldn't actually make a coffee and come back. I wouldn't mind the second coffee myself.
Yeah, well we have to end our meditation first.
Okay, you lead the last meditation.
Deep breath in through your mouth for five seconds.
One, two, three, four, five.
And out through your nose for seven seconds.
You are valid, you are wanted.
Have a big, a small or a medium sized Friday.
We'll be right back.
Welcome back to the Race to World First, also known as the pit stop.
For four World Firsts, the raiders are still waiting to get on in.
in. I see Roger dissecting the fight in front of them. I saw some liquid vods up as well,
looking at that P3 progression. Skype has gone full dark side. Anakin Skywalker just there ready to
kill the spiders but not just the male spiders but the women spiders and the kids spiders as well.
All of the spiders. It's funny because some time ago we were sitting downstairs having lunch
and at some point Scribe is like oh there's a spider and we all like because
it's like a really big room like really tall high ceilings right like a loft
kind of thing and it's like there's a spider we all like looked far away to
the wall and thought it would be a huge spider and it was like tiny spider and
it was like in the air just like I don't know like on a spider web I
and I was like wow this is so pretty.
Phase 2, yeah phase 2.
Can I identify a spider from 15 miles away now?
Just to get out of binoculars.
Yes, Arachnus Territarius.
I can see it.
Venomous but not poisonous to us.
It's very easy to kill this off.
Yeah but obviously the raider is going through their power points and their spreadsheets this morning
working out exactly how they want to approach things.
The thing about it is you don't want to get to P3
and be like, we don't have a plan. You want to get there, know exactly what you're doing.
Before that, P1, P2 seem relatively solved, but likely moving Bloodlust into P3 might mean
that we have some difficulty with the shielded spiders in the second phase as we work our
way up through those platforms. So, for now, we are in the same boat as everyone else
waiting on Echo to pull. I'm not sure if Liquid have gone to bed as well. I
assume they have by now. It's midnight-ish.
Yeah, midnight would be like the latest, the leave, I guess.
Sometimes they do go a little bit longer if they're pushing it.
You said 238 pulls earlier, right? So it's still a 238, so...
Yeah, I guess I haven't put it anymore.
They are asleep, okay.
So, I mean, that's a little bit of a relief.
I do think at the end of the race, whenever you know that the other guild is asleep, it's like, oh, you know, like...
Take a breath. We can spend an hour doing spreadsheets. It's okay. We're not losing out.
and you say the end of the race like I don't know I think there might be another reset coming
like that would be crazy like I do think that Blizzard wants this boss to die this week but
we don't know right we don't we don't have that information so it is technically possible
that Blizzard wants this boss to to last until next reset which would be insane
and I doubt it it's very highly doubted but yeah right now phase three of course looking very
difficult and it still requires a lot of pools to see like the end range even and
then we'll see how high the boss is because it's also a pretty big damage
check as well but yeah yeah while we wait for the raiders to figure out their
strategy and talk everything through there are some donations that came in
some still from yesterday and some from today in the morning so shout out to
all the people donating so early and of course supporting games for a law
which is an amazing cause. We do have a $1 Nation Binonymous and this is still from yesterday.
They say, given Emma's comments, can we ask Perfecto if he's secretly a Skyman between Raytears?
Skyman. I don't know what a Skyman is. I also don't know what a Skyman is. Oh,
Sky TV Engineer apparently. Oh, I see. Okay, so basically it was Emma that donated yesterday,
Preach's wife and she said that the boy next to Preach Perfecto has nice sneakers
and why wouldn't Preach ever wear those kind of nice shoes.
Preach's fashion sense is weird.
He's got an interesting fashion sense.
Yeah, it's middle-aged man, very much middle-aged man.
It's dad, dad, yeah.
Dad, yeah, 100%.
The thing is, New Balance is back in style now, right, for Gen Z, so if he was just
like full new balance you know knee-high socks ankle-high socks yeah a lot of
people a lot of people refuse to to go with the high sock trend because it was
considered like an old thing for a long time right you have only only ankle socks
were a thing even in the winter people were running around with ankle socks
there's a bunch of those things like middle parting is a millennial thing
where a side parting is a young is it that way around I feel is it the
the other way around. The side part is millennial and the middle is, and that's why you've gone
through the middle part. I had a hard time changing it. I mean, I'm trying very hard.
I'm trying very much to be the cool aunt. That's my vibe as well. You know, no kids
on my own. I've got a couple of, I've got a niece and a nephew and it's just like,
I'm just there, I'm vibing with you guys. You know, when you come, we'll just have
fun and they'll be good. And I want to be the cool aunt. You know, they should
come by whenever they want tips on how to talk to girls.
How to talk to girls, okay.
So I'm an onto twins, identical twins, very cute.
That's very cute.
But we do have more donations coming in, $10 by CRM Finn.
They say, let's go.
Let's go.
Thank you very much, let's go indeed.
All the money going to Games of Love, of course,
an amazing charity.
We've talked about a bunch on the show,
but they bring distraction therapy
to children in hospitals.
They also have internship in scholarship programs for those children after they left the hospital.
Anyway, 25 dollars by Mr. Sevekul.
They say thanks for an awesome stream, as well as thank Medic for being an awesome caster.
I hope to see you in the next race too, Will, first as well.
I mean, I hope to be here as well.
I was very fortunate that Shed was aligned for me to be here this time,
but hopefully we can make them align again.
Hopefully it's a good raid as well.
I would like it next to it.
Then we have $10 by Jesper to say make sure to bring back medic for next race. He's great
So kind of you. Thank you. And then we have a $50 donation by Kenzie and they say the light shines upon medic so nice
This is a sign medic shouldn't leave and stay here forever. Yeah, I wish not forever
I'll be honest like we've been here for two and a half weeks now if we were here for heroic it is it's draining like I
very
sort of fortified by the
stamina that the cast has had here because usually like League Worlds is a long
process but you're not on every day right like I'm on one day in three so the
other days you kind of chill at home in your pajamas you watch the watch the
games you write some notes but then the rest of the time you're just relaxing
here it's like every day you're in the studio obviously the hotel is right next
door as well so you don't really have a place to get away yeah it's the
stamina required to be on a race to the world first is immense it is
interesting is you know casting is not like the most like physically intense
job right we're not sure I'd say Lee casting is quite physically intense like
I can see that like you're standing up the whole time and there's a lot of like
yeah I feel tired after that but not like if you're not a builder or something
yeah yeah but just like not being able to really like like sometimes I'm just
like I want to take a walk outside just want to disconnect from everything even in
the classroom we have a big TV showing the broadcast and every now and again people
come in after their cast and be like talking about world of Warcraft stuff I
started playing a lot of wow while I was here and now after after like a week
and a half of it I'm like I just want to play a game where I don't have to
think about wow just like drill cool or something. Did you start dreaming about wow or still dreaming about league? I don't dream about anything I just clock out and have no dreams.
Dreams are done now!
Yeah, it's too tired for dreams, not allowed.
Oh that's awesome.
We do have another five dollar donation by Sarah.
She says, hey Medic, looking forward to hearing a cast world all the best from Austria.
Thank you very much Sarah.
Thank you very much. And then we have one dollar donation by Anonymous.
Can we get Medic's thoughts on one of our thieves loosing to our seven?
Spoilers for Worlds yesterday.
100 Thieves, which is North American 3rd Seed, lost to the League of Latin America 1st Seed
called Rainbow 7.
Wow, but is that not...
It's the 1st Seed versus...
Oh, it's...
Okay, I see what you're saying.
Yeah, so it would be like liquid and echo getting beaten by...
Well, a method would get beaten by 3rd Seed, right?
Yeah, but even that is...
It would be like either liquid or echo getting beaten by one of the Chinese teams in this race.
It's possible but incredibly unlikely.
Okay, I see.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rainbow 7, widely regarded as probably the worst team in Plains, and 100 Thieves are, like North America, historically don't do incredibly well at Worlds, but they are a step above, right?
So they're already disappointing us, unlike the first day of Worlds.
Well, North America, if you want to say us, sure.
Us as like the Western teams is what I meant.
I think there'll be a lot of European fans
that find a lot of joy in the fact that 100 Thieves lost,
especially since there's historically,
the third seed from Europe or the fourth seed,
sometimes called Mad Lions,
who are often like the team in play-ins,
they've been knocked out in play-ins before.
Now, 100 Thieves aren't knocked out yet,
but they lost to the worst team
and Rainbow Seven have only,
or League of Glass in America have only ever won
one other best of series in international history.
And that was against Gam, which is a Vietnamese team.
I'm trying not to be the person that takes joy in other people's misery, but it was
been the difficult show over the last day, I'll be honest.
I feel sorry for Hunter Thieves, there's a lot of young players on that team, but
for Rainbow Seven it is an incredible accomplishment and they should be very proud of themselves.
Then we have another set of coronation!
So hard!
I don't want to be that guy, because you're just punching down.
It's like, you know, it's like you've liquid lost and I'm just like, ha, liquid suck, ha, ha, that's not who I am.
I feel so I've found the thieves, I think they can bounce back.
Rainbow Seven should be incredibly proud of what they've done and I'm really happy for their fans.
So moving on, ten dollars for an animus, there's the medic, how do you rate the new world song?
Uh, oh. So it's called Heavy is a parent by Linkin Park.
Linkin Park? Yes, that's the... is Linkin Park?
Linkin Park.
It is Linkin Park, yeah, sorry. I've got a limb biscuit in my head for some reason.
I think it's an okay song. I give it like a 7 to an 8 out of 10 song-wise
I think the music video is what most people are complaining about because there's a lot of music video and not as much
I see it. Okay. I think my biggest thing with world songs is a lot of people have nostalgia for legends never dying for rise
Because they were incredible songs and they were like they defined what a league song should be in the same way
Linkin Park kind of defined what that style of music should be and now people see their songs as generic
Because other bands have copied them, but they were kind of the band that did it originally, right?
Yeah, there's also the whole Chester thing where no one's ever gonna be just right and I think it's a good song
The music video I would have preferred to be the story of last worlds
I think that's where they fit in best rather than it being a hey people coming to challenge
But yeah overall like it's solid
I need to listen to it I would definitely listen to it outside of it being a world song
But I think there's always this thing you aspire to be like there's this
You shouldn't say quack like this special thing about a world song that it doesn't quite hit for me
Yeah, okay, I see but like gods is a good song as well
I didn't find it like very world songy and then start walking is a great song
Yeah, but it's not very world's either right that's it as you get bigger names in there
They're gonna have some influence on it, right?
Yeah, the one thing like the song for Arcane, what's the one called?
Warios, you mean the Imagine Dragons song for Arcane?
Imagine Dragons song for Arcane, yeah.
Well, whatever it's called, I like that song a lot and it was interesting because I thought
it is very Arcane, very leak, but I also like when I heard it outside of the show,
I mean I still I still liked it a lot and other people like new to song just like that without being like a cane related
Starwalking is a similar thing like a lot of people really like starwalking as a song and don't know league
And I think the problem is like all of these songs are really good songs
Right, they're just they don't have that same nostalgia feeling as Rise or whatever and that comes down to the music video
And I thought I really like the idea of the music video where like everyone's coming to challenge T1
It just didn't quite hit
home for me in the same way that some of the other songs. I think Legends never dies a great example
of an incredible song. Yeah. Relatively. Oh, well, good morning, Mike. Do you know the muffin man?
Oh, you're not head-saving? Who comes from Drury Lane? Oh my God. Wow.
Which is the muffin man. Wow. The pastry. Oh, that's delicious. Thank you. That's very
I'm not going to eat it at all, thank god.
Wow, that's crazy.
That looks so delicious.
I just put coffee on myself.
Well, this shirt is going to be staying there.
We're living with that.
That's fine.
It's the same, similar color.
Yeah, exactly.
It just blends in with the design.
Okay, well, would you have a favor?
Well, I'm still thinking.
So we have two donuts here that look delicious.
We have two muffins, probably like a blueberry one.
Really like a toffee toffee yeah caramel something like this then we have this is probably like some type of cinnamon roll
Yeah, this is a what is this in English? I don't know
No, it's like a role as well. Isn't it? Yeah, but the filling is like I don't know the English word
I don't know what this is feeling like
It's like a black. Oh, maybe some people know in chat. Someone will know in chat. What is moon in English?
I'm gonna have to show you what I'm talking about
This one here. It's like a cinnamon roll. It's like a roll with like black and then icing on top of it.
Poppy seeds. Oh, with poppy seeds you can fail a drug test. Oh, really? Yeah. That's interesting.
It shows up as a, it's where certain drugs are derived from, right? So we probably shouldn't eat this because it's going to be in your teeth for like, ever.
And I'm flying. And if they decide to drug test me, right? Like, it doesn't happen often, but you never know. I am going to Berlin.
I'm holding this up. I think this one here looks very delicious, and I kind of inclined to try this, but I don't know what it is.
And these are just probably some like, some jam inside probably.
Yeah, I'm going for one of those, I think.
Okay.
Is this one, does this look like apple, or is this red as well?
This looks red too.
Okay, well, I'll go for this red one.
We do have napkins, but Preach decided to leave them over there by the camera, so we're kind of screwed.
I don't really understand why he did that, but thanks.
Okay, I'm gonna let you eat first, and then I'm talking while...
I still decide what I'm going to... I think I'm going with this one. It looks very delicious.
I'm fine.
There's lots of sugar glaze on top, which is of course...
If you tune next to the microphone, it's ASMR as well, so it's new content for Echo.
Thank you Sam.
Okay, so what is inside?
I haven't actually got to the inside.
Okay, so it's kind of... it's some red jam. It could be many different kinds of fruits.
But yeah, this one looks delicious. I'm definitely going to try this one.
Great sounds. Keep it up.
I do appreciate it, it might be cinnamon, it might be cinnamon.
But yeah, I like this like pastry tradition.
We do also have to take a group picture before you leave as well.
Is this a tradition where you have pastries on the last day?
It's no, like I kind of just randomly started bringing pastries in here, so I was like...
Oh, cup saves that!
I should put my cup to the side of someone.
So they want me to move it?
There we go. No worries. This is great. I like it. Alright. Alright. Well yeah. I do
want to say while you're eating in the can't answer, I do want to say we all appreciate
you being here and so you should. I'm very, I'm actually, I was very, I was very much
looking forward to casting with you. I was very glad when I heard that you're
on board now and you're part of the CASA team. And I'm incredibly impressed by how you integrated
into the team and how you ended up casting and how much work and effort you put into researching
so much about WoW, not just like about the bosses, but you learn how to use work craft blocks, for
example, which I mean, it's not like a necessity to be a CASA to understand how to do work
craft blocks, right? I thought that was really cool and that you really did all of your research
started playing a lot of WoW yourself in New Downtime, looked at what other people did,
looked at the other broadcast, tried to get as much information as possible, learned even
stuff about the lore about chatsocks and stuff. I thought that was incredibly cool and I think
you're invaluable as a caster and I'm so glad you are here.
Thank you very much. It means a lot. It's been very easy to be part of the team,
so obviously that comes down to everyone here at Echo and obviously all of the other
casters. I've really enjoyed my time and I'd love to come back again.
keep eating because I want to eat as well and get some hearts and chat for
medic of course unfortunately he does have to leave us very soon and I'm a
little bit sad that they don't get to see like the actual kill and to like the
closer the race gets at the end that's like but I do hope that you're gonna
return again and the last final days and the final push because I do think
that is all that is what it's all about thank you very much it's your means take
over why you you chomped down on oh yeah that would be I don't think I'm right
to say give me chat give me chat okay chat and I gonna have a moment yeah how
are we doing chat how are we doing oh they're getting ready for a pool maybe
they've walked over the bridge where's kungan is a good question I don't know
I think he might be the mythic face.
I think he has killed the boss already.
Yeah, he's 9 out of 8, isn't he?
9 out of 8, complete.
At least.
Bait in 2!
Chat, we're being baited!
We are being baited.
It even popped up on the screen.
Someone's being...
Oh, they all gonna puddle out.
But that's a summoning, okay.
There we are.
Nice little summoning.
I don't really understand why it needs these horns
and those weird chains on the front.
Like, every warlock has the same.
Do you need to be this edgy?
You don't need to be the same, just be a nice warlock.
Like, you made a pact with some sort of demonic entity.
That's cool.
You can still be a nice guy.
You can still be cool as a warlock.
We do, yeah, we seem still getting ready.
I think, oh yeah, about warlocks.
Yeah, we talked about transmux earlier.
Yeah.
And I'm so jealous of warlocks because they,
I feel like they're the ones that get the coolest
hearset every time.
Okay.
Almost every time.
And they get these special effects
where they have like wings coming out of their shoulders and stuff.
Like, wow, this is way too cool.
I don't appreciate this.
I mean, as a Druid, you get wings coming out of your shoulders whenever you want.
Once again, boomkin enticement.
You have wings, you can flap them.
No one else gets those wings.
No one else gets a full body transformation as part of their class.
Like, you can become a cat.
I'm surprised about more furries who are Druids, I'm gonna be honest.
It's a bit of a weird one to me.
I thought that intersection would be a little bit more a little bit closer. You can be a wide owl
Can you get skins for those? I feel like you can probably get skins for those
That would be cool where you could be like instead of being an owl you could just be a penguin and just like
It'd be great, right and as a bear you could be a polar bear you can have this whole like polar themed
And you can be a polar bear actually. It's um
Mace tower skin. It is not available anymore
I mean you can get a different color but not the white polar bear anymore.
So you can't just go back to the mage tower and get it?
It was like a limited time.
That's like I understand limited time stuff.
As long as it comes back every now and again that's fine for me.
As long as I get the opportunity to get it.
Because I think apparently it comes back every now and again according to Sam.
Okay that's Sam not knowing enough.
I think there should be some distinction but as a new player if I
I see something really cool in the game. I want a way to farm that really cool thing.
One of the things that does bug me is I can't just spam farm raids, like from the past.
I have to wait a weekly lockout for each of the raids if I want to get the mount or whatever.
But I don't mind there being a distinction for the I got this originally.
I would just like to be able to get a polar bear skin.
Because I don't want a grey polar bear, I want a white polar bear.
So if you get the original one, maybe you can...
I know it shines in a certain way when you use a special ability, right?
there is something to distinguish it for you. I do like understand what he's
saying but I feel like as soon as there's anything like as soon as there's
something that makes it different then people are gonna say well but I want
the same one. I mean sure but I think there is okay so like for example with
the polar bear sure and because it's interesting because garden druids have a
bear form right and this special skin make the form look different like a
different animation of it right usually it's just like a different
colored bear, different this, different that, but that was like, in particular like a different
like animation of the bear, which of course is very extra. And it was through the mage
shower, and then the mage shower was gone and people complained that it can't get anymore,
of course. And then I brought the mage shower back, but they said, hey, you will get this
new animation from the new mage shower, but it's a different color. And it's cool.
It was actually in fact cooler looking than the old one, because the old one was just
like one color that you could choose and the new one was like had like really
cool like fell kind of like tattoos right which kind of makes it look cooler in
my opinion but people still want the old one just from like because they can't
get it probably and I feel like that you can't solve so can I still get the
new animation you can't get the new animation then that's fine I have no
problem my problem is when people complain that something should be
permanently locked from new players. As long as it's... it can be visually different but still
distinguishable as that thing, I'm fine. I mean it's the thing with League where they
re-released old skins that hadn't been... they've been told they'd been locked out,
but they put a different twist on them. So if you're like, oh, a slightly different chroma,
or maybe you don't get one of the animations, with that I'm okay. Because you should be
be rewarded for being there at the start. There are certain League skins like, I think
it's Chrome Rammus and Black Alistar are the skins that you could only get in Beta. Might
be King Rammus. But yeah, there's a few that you just can't get anymore and they'd be
like, we're not going to release them. Now they are bad skins because League skins
were really bad at the start and didn't have cool animations and such but they're
exclusive and that's cool. In the same way you can't get the mythic bird mount from
Emidrasil, unless you clear mythic. I get that, that's fine.
It is very interesting because wow, that's if a lot of those things are not obtainable
anymore and I do think it's partially important that things like that exist because it just
increases the... if you know it's not going to be available anymore, it's obviously
is a good thing for Blizzard because it incentivizes players to play the game.
It's like, okay, if I can only get this right now, I should get it right now, right?
So it's like a tool for Blizzard to say, hey guys, you should play the game now.
But so if they bring it back at some point, then people feel like they were a scamp in
the past.
They're like, whoa, like I specifically played because I thought it's not going to be available
anymore.
And now you're just bringing it back.
Like, what's the point of that point?
But I do understand why if you started late and you couldn't have gotten it
in the past, it really is annoying for you if you can't get it anymore.
Yeah, I mean the problem is when you advertise the original as a fear of missing out sort
of idea, that's the problem, right?
Because then everyone's like, well, you told me I had to do 200 hours of gameplay within
this month, otherwise I wasn't going to get it, right?
And now I did that, I paid my dues, why should other people get it, right?
It becomes this whole thing.
The most interesting things to me about things we can't get anymore is the very,
very start of the game in vanilla you you could have like at level 40 you would
get a mount but it was only like a 60% like movements, movement speed, movement
increase, movement speed increase, and then at level 60 you would be able to get a
hundred percent and it was very costly to pay a lot of gold and people wouldn't
have it as soon as they reached 60 they had to go and farm the gold and then
get it and it was like this huge thing. Why didn't I farm gold? You can just buy
I walk up there and there's Chinese feel you can buy it from anyway.
So I didn't say that.
Listen, do you want her not me?
I'm over here.
But then the mount looked the same, the faster mount.
So the movement speed was tied to the mount and not to your character.
So the mount that he had had the speed, right?
And the faster mounts look the exact same as the slower mounts.
They were just faster, right?
And at some point a couple months later they decided to make the faster mounts look cooler
And they gave them armor and it was just like normal muscle. It was like a horse or a tiger or whatever
And they gave they took that mount and put some armor on it
And then they said okay, if you have a hundred percent mount you can go and trade it in for free
For the armored mounts and of course everyone did that except very few people did not and
And the people now that still have this old mount without the armor, it's probably like their rarest mounts.
Yeah, because they're much straighter.
Yeah, because everyone of course straights it in back then, no one realizing that this might be something that it can't obtain anymore.
Because of course the 60% mounts, we're looking like that.
It's just that the 100% mount without the armor is like probably like the rarest thing.
And I'm not even sure if people are still having it at all or if people care about it or whatever.
or whatever but it's very interesting. It's very interesting and it'll be in a
drop soon anyway so it's fine. Probably, yeah. And just get it from the drop.
Or five zap gifts on my stream right now. Wait a second! If you're gonna sub, you sub to
Medic Cart now. Sub to the Echo Stream obviously. Ads do run on the platform
it's to support Echo and to support the Raiders throughout the race the
world first. If you don't want to see ads which aren't really controllable
by Echo. They kind of just come up whenever Twitch wants them to come up. You can prime,
you can sub, you can buy Twitch Turbo, and you can see all of the pools today. We see
the fees going down as well for the Raiders. So hopefully in short order, we will be pulling
more. I see, I think we have another donation, so let me grab up the donations paid quickly
before we get into pools. Are your donations always welcome? Obviously as the Raiders
are pulling, it will be harder to read them all out, but we will get to them at
at some point during the race to World First.
All of the donations will be read out
unless they say something lewd
or unless they say that I'm bad at my job
because that will make me very sad.
Zimilo donated $5 to Games 11 said,
"'Good morning, I'm following both team Liquid and Echo,
"'and I'm not sure who I want to win.
"'I think Liquid deserves it,
"'but NA get very kooky and I hate that.
"'I think it's cocky, but Echo is winning.
"'Could be nice to see some change.
"'Good luck to both teams anyway.'"
I think whether or not Liquid get kooky
isn't really the important thing here.
I think the important thing to note is
the Race to World first is a full fun event
that both these teams try really hard to win.
And the enjoyment for me,
that from being on the outside most of the time
has come from seeing two guilds with elite level raiders
and with elite level tactics,
racing to see who can kill this first.
Who ends up killing it is important in the long run
obviously, and it will go down in history,
But the more enjoyable aspect of the race is the race itself,
and seeing two guilds butt heads against each other,
and really push this game to its limits.
Yeah, and I mean, no matter who wins,
I think the fact that it's so close,
that's what we want as viewers and as casters, right?
Like, we want the race to be as close as possible.
So I am kind of rooting for both guilds to do well, right?
I don't want it to be super one-sided,
where one guild just like is far ahead,
and it's super like boring to watch, right?
So my, like what I want is, I'm rooting for my own enjoyment is basically what I'm saying.
Yeah, screw the raiders, I wanna have fun.
I wanna have fun, and I want the viewers to have fun.
I care about you and I, the raiders like, ugh.
Yeah.
So you know.
I mean, I want them to have fun as well.
I think it has, it seems to be an enjoyable tier, right, with Kveslem and Vub, Twister
putting up more of a challenge than we expected.
With Silkencourt being a difficult boss, but kind of a solved boss relatively early
on maybe didn't give them as much of a challenge but like the amount of joy I
saw on the Raiders faces yesterday when they got to p3 and they were like what
the actual ever-loving hell is this that's where they live that's where they
love to be right I think it's where any super competitive elite level athlete
in this sense likes to be you want to be challenged you want to be pushed
you want to have to solve difficult problems and we have a pool coming up
Yeah, and it's so funny how they were like laughing and having like enjoying it, right?
I mean it was obviously more of a ha ha ha internally like dreads kind of laugh
But still it was interesting because other people that are not as competitive
They would see this like and like throw in the town be like no, I'm not doing this
But they immediately the first reaction is like oh my god, and then you could see like it sparked
This like competitive spirit in them. I say I really want to solve this like we can kill this
we can solve this or we want to and that is what is really cool like it it turns
something on because of course there this is a very interesting type of e-sport in
comparison to other e-sports obviously this is a community-based event for
fun tournaments as a mini-game. It's not a franchise e-sport or something
It's like two guilds racing each other for the joy of racing each other. Yeah
Which what I'm trying to say is is that
The players if this was an official kind of tournament or whatever
Then all of these like chores that they're doing they probably would be cut out
Right because they would just have like normalized gear and like some tournament realm or whatever
They wouldn't have to do any split rates and whatnot. So and that is what they enjoy doing like the
Disrating right all of the chores or whatever. That's that's just something they have to get through to get to this point and
And the fact that they have to do all of this work, to even get here to do the enjoy part that they actually like is crazy to me.
Like they need so much competitive spirit and so much motivation to go through all of that just to get to this point where they actually finally enjoy that part where it's really challenging, right?
is super cool to see. And that first try coming in for today looking really good so far.
Oh why? Why?
It's not a worry without Jinxing.
Why would you say that? There's no way they don't wipe down a girl.
No don't worry. We're not Jinxing because they're so strong-willed. This morning after
this two-hour talk they had, there's no Jinxing that can wipe them from here.
Oh definitely. We just get them all out of the way. Boss is dead, it's a P3 puller
at least the essences left behind will disappear somehow magically they'll be sucked up by
Kungun and so he continues his push to 10 out of 8 on the mythic tier but having a clean
phase one is obviously very important you can see these bombs going down it's the
four stack that they have to get through avoid the blades first now get the knockup so
that you can get away from that venom nova you have to have all of these reactive
toxins popping one second apart at least otherwise you're wiping the raid and then you have to
dodge away from all these orbs. Big raid damage going to come from that Tuofi toxin dot that's
on all of them then we move into intermission one and we have had one res but it's been pretty
clean so far. I'm sorry you're still here. Yeah we do have none of them. Actually no
I can keep talking it's fine. No Ryzen is that the res will come up in one minute
30 so that means they're gonna have to play without a healer which we've seen them do before but
unfortunately Statsy also goes down that's gonna be it they're not going to be able to continue
this unfortunately oh Ryzen it's actually alive interesting maybe they had a combat res and the
overlay was just a little bit that is possible it does happen sometimes especially when we're
getting into the fights again that data tracking can be a little bit messy so it looks like now
we've used that combat res obviously still have the bloodlust likely moving that towards p3
canex walls as well. So he and Zatzi will be viewing from the floor. Good place to watch the toes. We
see these people going through the portals. Then they have to get dispelled, move that little dot
away from the portal because it's going to leave that puddle on the floor of gloom. As these
void speakers die, they'll put behind these bombs that you can use to jump up to the next
platform. And then there were three platforms around the outside of the arena that have
have to be navigated while at the same time having people going through those
portals before the timer expires otherwise the portals blow up and wipe
that side of the rate. Yeah they're doing a good job so far the
Dispel needs to come through on Jinji here unfortunately we do lose one more
player as there was so much damage going through mirrors down as well now
this certainly does mean it's the end of this pool but to be able to get to
phase two here on their first pool very good sign so yeah I'm looking
forward to some phase three pulls immediately and some consistency that's
what we're looking for right we want to be consistent straight away because
obviously we're gonna be pulling this boss all day today and consistency in
phase one incredibly important phase two I think it's okay that we wipe here and
there still and then we lose players here and there but I think phase one
getting through that consistently or you know losing too many people there is
something that we strive for immediately and then phase two still of course
having to be refined a little bit because we didn't see that face that many times.
I mean, we saw it a lot, but not with everyone alive and not with like a fully
flat shot strategy. So we're still kind of progressing on that face to a little bit.
Yeah, we'll quickly get through a couple of donations while they get ready for the next
pool. $10 from Anonymous saying fantastic charity, fantastic casters,
and always fun to watch even if I'm not a world player. That's what I was until I came this
So I think there's a lot of people out there who are watching who aren't really wow
enthusiasts would love to see medic again in the next race world first two and by the way
There's another race word first coming very soon at the ff 14 ultimate medic. You're staying right
When is it is it after November? It's in November November 30th. I
Can be there. I don't play any Final Fantasy and echo haven't asked me also
I do have another gig on the 19th of December, so it has to be less than 15 days
It's 10 days maximum. Who knows? Maybe. Probably not. I probably want to take a
break. I'm gonna be honest. I've been working from January.
Sam is saying let's do the concert right now.
Yeah, I'm good thanks.
He's gonna walk you to the door just so...
Alright, we can negotiate the rate right now. So my usual rate of two and a half...
Too rich for Sam's blood it seems.
Caster91 also donated ten dollars and said,
Just wanted to see if you would read out something lewd or not.
None of that was lewd, Casta.
Also, we know when you were born,
ha, imagine putting 91 at the end.
Oh, I'm also 91.
So am I.
When's your birthday?
June.
Ever, I'm older than you.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
Yeah, you look so much younger.
So true.
Anonymous donated $10 said,
"'Medicine did a great job casting the race.
It was a pleasure to have you good luck at Worlds.
Also, could you answer my dilemma?
When someone says stop, I never know
if it's in the name of love or hammer time,
in the name of love, hammer time,
or if I'm supposed to collaborate and listen.
Stop, collaborate and listen.
Stop, and then.
What, stop in the name of love?
How's that, tune go?
Stop in the name of love.
I would go collaborate and listen more often.
Stop, collaborate and listen.
Stop, hammer time.
No, I'd probably go collaborate and listen more often,
I'm gonna be honest.
Definitely hammer time.
Yeah, oh, hammer time, really.
Yeah so I actually had it, it was macroed in, okay so Paladin has like this
execute kind of hammer. Yeah the one that comes down from the sky. No like in
vanilla the way it works, I don't think they don't have it anymore, but you would
like throw it. Oh interesting. At 30% of lower you could just throw a hammer and it would get magic
damage. Hammer or grass. And back then in vanilla you could play something
called like a spell power shock it in, is what it's called. So it's like a
a holy paladin but you did a lot of damage with your spells to other people
I would like spell damage gear and I used to like do do also whatever and I had
the spell power set and I macroed I yell into my hammer of wrath where it would
just say stop hammer time it is very embarrassing is this what macroe what
people use as their their macros I thought macros like I can do this
It's a cool spell combination, quicker than I should be able to and dilute the notes.
Just macroing words.
Every time I'm going to macro in something on Echo now.
When you sit down to eat the fees, the num num num.
Ah, no, mine's the oo-woo.
That's this delicious food, um num num, ah.
Ara ara, so tasty.
Whenever someone says ara cara, I can't think of anything but ara ara.
That's what wrist contractions.
you know when you do wrist flexions in the gym?
Oh yeah.
Yeah, that's what you're trapping for.
Nanananana.
Nanananana.
Nanananana.
Nanananana.
Another $10 from Anonymous who says,
Good luck in the race PS.
You can't tell me all these donations hyping MediCup.
Aren't him donating anonymously.
Yeah.
You got me.
I've actually spent my entire day rate for this final day
just giving money back to charity.
I mean, it's a tax write-off and also the kids.
Of course, yeah.
Who are also a tax write-off, kids, I guess, technically.
You could probably save money in some way.
You don't know my account, and Sam, they live in Switzerland.
Oh, Canadians.
That's all made up.
So, okay, I'm just guessing some stuff again.
Which, I'm actually a little bit surprised by it, because they did a poll,
and they did not reach the last phase, and they decided to figure out something.
I mean, it's possible that there's a weaker issue.
Yeah, I saw a bunch of reloads happening.
There's force reloads that you can do.
Pastries, can we?
Like, I feel like we have to move them away because otherwise I'm going to eat another one.
You're just going to eat more?
Jesse, do you want a pastry?
Yeah, sorry.
Oh, Jesse's here by the way.
I didn't mean to put your headset on.
Cut!
I wasn't deliberate.
I was just, I was thinking you could come over here and take them in,
but by making you take them, I also wanted to offer one to you
because otherwise, I'd just be asking you to come and clean up the set.
Would you like me to come clean up the set?
If you could, yeah, that would be great.
Yes, please.
Just for now, please, Jesse, thank you.
Thank you so much, Jesse.
I'm sorry, I was also offering you a pastry, and then I didn't mean that you had to put your headset on, and...
Do you think I could eat them all?
Yes.
At $31,000!
That would be so funny.
It's like, how it can't come from the cast of pictures, she's on her seventh of a pastry.
Oh, I feel so wonderful!
And I would enjoy every second of it.
Yep, so would I.
Those pasties were delicious, thank you so much, Mike.
I will also say, I just said so would I.
I would enjoy eating them myself.
I wouldn't enjoy watching you eat them.
That's some sort of weird, muck-buck thing going on.
Obviously, obviously that would be the sexiest thing you've ever seen.
Let's be honest, me shoveling pasties into my mouth
Just get some pickles and venus in there as well.
Just gorgeing myself. A chew glutton.
Ahhhh!
It's funny because I know medic is obviously like, you're being ironic whenever you're like, being so convinced of yourself, right?
But, I have a crippling anxiety.
Same. But, sometimes when you read compliments, like compliments, or when you hear compliments,
You're like, mm-hmm, yeah, yeah.
This person doesn't know me.
That's just being nice.
Yeah, but it's like this.
It's like the most obvious thing.
So you're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, yeah.
I get cobbled with all the time, yeah.
It's just another day being medic.
Another day being awesome.
It's so tough, though, because I...
It's tough being so great.
It really is.
It's so hard.
It's so rough.
I have to go to my other job after this.
People are like this as well!
People are telling you how great you're doing, is it out there?
His wallet is too small for his 50s and his diamond shoes are too tight.
It's such a mess to wear these.
It's difficult, right?
I think a lot of people who are in front of camera do have some sort of high level anxiety
and are very self-conscious about things.
There are times when people are being incredibly kind today
and incredibly kind here at the base of the world first,
but I'll be like, okay, this person obviously doesn't know me.
I don't know who I am because they're saying nice things and that's just not true, you know.
But yeah, it's great.
I'm a horrible person.
Yeah.
I hate myself.
That's what I've been telling Chet all along.
Yep.
And there's a great comedian called James Acaster who did a comedy special called Cold Lasagna
Hate Myself 1999 and it just explores the worst year of his life and how much
he hates himself during it in such a comedic way and he's managed to get through it
but now it's, it's, it was a revelation moment for me,
like kind of realizing that other people who I,
obviously he's much more in the public eye than we are,
right?
But he's the other people that in the public eye
have exactly the same thoughts as I have
from time to time, right?
It's, yeah.
Cause when you see like this is one of the biggest problems
I have with social media is everyone presents as perfect.
Right? You only see the positives
and every now and again, someone will be like,
Hey guys, I'm really struggling.
And like even that, like people will come in and be
like, oh, you're amazing, et cetera, right?
But because everyone presents perfect
and you're seeing hundreds of thousands of people
present perfect as someone who is imperfect
because we all are, you can evaluate yourself on this level
that is just impossible to reach, right?
Like you evaluate yourself against 10 other content creators
and you're like, I haven't done as much content
as these 10 other content creators have.
It's like, well, obviously you haven't, you're one person
and they're only presenting their wins as well.
Exactly, yeah.
And you're like not saying, oh, I haven't done as much
as this one other person.
And you're like, I haven't done as,
because you only look at the best things the other people did, and you combine it all.
It's like, oh my god, I should upload like 10 YouTube videos per day and do whatever.
I should be working two different shows simultaneously.
After I'm done casting this, I should drive over and cast some other events somewhere else.
Like, yeah, okay.
I'm sorry, Sam ruined this really thought-provoking moment between us
by saying when I swapped to the other camera, it looks like Jesse's staring at the pastry.
Look at this!
When he cuts out of our mini-thuff when you're reading the logs, go back to reading the logs, and we'll quickly cut to you in the top.
I can bring them back.
No, it's funny. It's funny. We just need to show the audience what Sam was seeing.
Go back to your position reading the logs.
We did try it for a second. Now we had our time.
You're going to pose.
Thanks for watching.
Just pose reading the logs, and now we'll quickly cut to Jesse's camera in the top right corner.
And the pastries were slightly more to the right of screen.
Yeah, just like this. Thank you.
And Sam was just like, it just looks like Jesse's staring at the pastries and it does kind of and that's a very funny moment Sam
And I agree with you. However
Read the room Sam
It was good chaos
I have one more thing to say but now it doesn't fit anymore because now we're not in this mood anymore
And I don't want to say it. No, you can say it. You can say it quick. Okay, really quick
So, you know, you know when you're actually struggling and you want to like kind of talk about it
But then you feel like if you say it then people are going to obviously encourage you with like positive comments
And then it feels like like people are going to think you just set this so we can get the positive comments
Yeah, which is not true. No, but it seems that way. Yep, and you can't avoid getting positive comments
You can say please I don't want you to like say positive
They're still gonna say it. It's like yeah, and people will be like
I'll just talk to your friend close friends about it and all of us do right all of us have built up support network
of the years or try to, but then sometimes you do feel the need to like tell your audience
at large why perhaps there haven't been so many streams or why perhaps there haven't
been so many YouTube videos right and as soon as you do that, yeah exactly to realize that
other people are 100%.
100%.
There are plenty of support networks out there by the way, there are plenty of people
that will help you if you are feeling like you are struggling or alone reaching out
to people is the best way to help with that.
I had a couple of years ago where I was really struggling
and we started getting therapy, started getting chance,
people helped me a huge amount.
So let's get back into, wow, that was our,
we had our morning meditation session,
now we've had our morning that are divulging
about how everyone struggles session
and now we can talk about-
It's like therapy, listen to this, to this broadcast.
It is not therapy, therapy is amazing
and you should go to therapy,
even if you don't think you should,
you probably should because usually the people
that don't think they should are the people that can benefit the most from it, but now
we are into P2. Everyone's dead. Okay, back to psychoanalyzing chats. Back to analyzing
chats. Let's go. Okay, yeah. So unfortunately, I don't know why I'm coming in, but I do think
we're going to see some more polls happening back to back because they did fix their week
or hours and they should be able to get some practice in. But yeah, how are y'all
feeling today? I hope you're feeling great. It is indeed a Friday for many people.
Friday, big Friday, medium Friday, whatever it might be. For us, it's not a Friday at all.
I think for a lot of people out there, they'll think it's a small Friday, but that is actually
a perfectly adequate Friday, okay? That's the average sort of Friday. Don't need to worry about that.
Don't have to feel bad if it's a small Friday. Sometimes it's just a small Friday!
It does happen to every guy! It's not a big deal!
Thank you.
Now, someone said you should just go to the gym instead.
Going to the gym, exercising, very good way to help your mood.
It releases a lot of endorphins.
It's really valuable to you.
Like, people will see it as this big,
you have to go to the gym thing.
When I was struggling a couple of years ago,
I just started going on 20-minute walks.
And it was just a walk.
100% walk is so good.
It's such a good position.
Getting yourself out of the place
that you are struggling with as well can feel really intimidating.
But if you're saying, I'm just
walk five minutes down the road and five minutes back it will start building up even better if you
can if there's like a park or if you live somewhere close to like a forest or whatever just nature in
general um apparently it's proven that even just like a small amount of time in like nature
trees grass whatever does increase your mood heavily yeah it's a thing we don't really
I don't really know exactly why, but...
Chocolate.
Chocolate does help.
Chocolate does help.
Miss me with that exercise shit, I like the chocolate.
And you know what else counts?
Says the man that has been consistently exercising since February
looks incredible and seems to be in a great place mentally as well.
I've heard chocolate many times and you always said no, so...
Yeah, and I wish I hadn't.
Understandable.
But you're feeling great without the chocolate.
This might bolster your mood.
There was a study a few years ago where
people who consistently had poor mood, right? Poor relative to them, obviously. And they would rate
where they were on a mood scale of one to ten, like ten being, I'm really, really struggling,
one being, I'm okay, nothing wrong's happening. And they asked them their comfort foods. And then
they put them in a control group or a test group. And when they were below a five or above,
they would give them their comfort food or they wouldn't give them their comfort food.
And within an hour, the mood increase would be the same whether or not they'd
eating their comfort food or not. Comfort foods are great but you don't need a comfort
food for your mood to increase. Your mood will increase anyway. Sometimes it's about the habitual
thing of oh I need food to feel better. It isn't always applicable but finding a way to get yourself
out of the situation that makes you feel bad is very helpful. This is a pool. The thing is
when we started talking about the pool last time, they started dying. This is true.
So I think we're just going to talk about it.
I'm going to talk about the pool.
OK, here we go.
Go on, do it.
You want to curse the early in the morning, that's OK.
I want to risk it for science as we
do approach that the four bomb situation, which
is, of course, the last bomb site we're
getting in this phase, which is always the most difficult part
in this phase.
There's many difficult parts to this phase
and many ways on how we can die.
But that quadra bomb explosion very, very hard
right before the mission is going
come up in just a moment after these webs coming through these daggers that are of
course deadly get hit by them unless you have some sort of cheap death or immunity
and there we go they're gonna be happening just a moment everyone has to
move towards the previous area of the Nile that they put on the floor while
the bombs are moving a little bit to the right and then we have to trigger
those bombs in a staggered fashion because on mythic you do get a debuff
on everybody that makes you basically it forces you to stagger to explode
them in a staggered way there we go we have all of the explosions coming through
nice four stacks on everyone and in just a moment they're gonna explode in three
two one let's see everyone is gonna be alive everyone was really low they
managed to survive they need to recover now from that dot just so much damage
coming in but there we go looking pretty good so far yeah that first yank
about four million damage the second one gets up to about six million the
third and the fourth increase in damage. Fourth is definitely lethal. We have been getting through with
only two Yanks so far and on the cast of desk only one Yank with Jesse being here from Minnesota
obviously. 30% left on that shield after the second Yank so we should be able to do it before
that last rest comes in and then we will move on to P2. We saw one person trapped in the Silicon
Tomb that was my own no but they were freed just before they got hit with some blades.
the Yank in one second. Oh, there was one percent left on the shield and one second before the Yank
they couldn't quite get the shield down before that final pull in. Learning here more Yanks is a bad
thing. Yep that's what a Minnesotan would say. Jesse's not from Minnesota by the way for some
reason I've decided to keep this bit up the entire time I've been here. I don't know why.
Where are you from? Missouri. Oh did you think he was from Minnesota as well? I mean honestly
I don't know like the middle states. It's okay. It's like
If you would tell me one day that you're from Minnesota and the other day from Missouri, I would be like, yeah
Yeah, that's how I feel about all the literally relevant countries in Europe. So it makes sense that you feel that way, but
Yeah
It's like Italy's sweetest same thing. Yeah, I mean that's more like Italy Sweden is more like saying someone's from Texas
from New York, right? Yeah, I guess Germany, Austria, I guess. Yeah, Germany, Austria, who
cares? I mean, Austria is Germany needs Canada, right? It's there, but nobody cares. Yeah,
I guess so. Wow, it's so early to offend so many people. That's a green matter. Thankfully,
I'm not from Austria. A god of malice says we care about Canada. I don't know who
we as but that him and his family or them and their family probably very
imaginary friends wait Mitch is from Canada I thought it was American
everybody lives in Turkey I'm leaving today I can upset the apple car however I
want as we do get into this for a quick to read another donation from Jake Z
GR says $10 says I'll miss medic so much he's a cutest cast I can't wait
Thank you to return to the next race less than three. Thank you so much. Shake is very kind of you to say and I will pay
Pound you that $10 later
And we go into another pool if you see anything interesting Jesse yet, they're kind of dying in P1 P2
So it's nothing new. Yeah, I'm just looking at last night stuff. Okay, they
I don't know if I should say this
The record is probably aren't listening so I'm going to anyway. Okay, they did do some some testing last night
Oh in normal mode
I'm doing some science and I'm trying to figure out what they were sensing.
Interesting.
Interesting.
That's very cool.
Are the essences available in normal mode?
Do you get the acolytes essence?
I think they are, but they don't close the portal when you go through them.
Yeah, correct.
Maybe testing about like inbun, like immune, or some sort of way to pick them back up.
But they don't get left behind as well.
They just disappear when you go through the portal, right?
Yeah, that's only on mythics.
Do they linger and...
find a way to not get the debuff when you pick it up maybe that's not gonna work I
mean you say it's not gonna work but um they probably not the big bit right now
is can tanks live through holding a second debuff while they both and that's
gonna be very sketchy a thousand percent increase a thousand percent increased
damage yeah looking at something like six million damaged ticks and what I've
I've seen for 15 seconds yeah 15 seconds yeah from what I've seen
Liquid actually struggled a little bit with tanks surviving just like like apparently there's a lot of damage in last phase on the tanks
There is yeah a lot of damage and it's very important that they mitigate because a portion of the damage
They take gets turned into raid damage similar to a Brute Twister of an axe and
It's it's quite painful
Have we thought about three tanking, two healer-ing, adding in a DPS?
The ending's great.
Yep, send him a message right now.
Still remember me as the one who suggested one tanking Kvesa before it was cool?
Did you?
Yeah, I didn't know anything about Unks or anything.
I was just like, hey guys, we need more DPS, why don't we one tank it?
And then Alex just laughed at me and then it turned out we were going to one tank it anyway.
That's amazing.
But now I know about unks. I'm gonna suggest it for every fight just in case me and twitch are like this
We just like saying hey guys. Have you thought about this like obviously they've thought about that for the one time
They do it and we're right
With the smartest chat in the world
All right, so we are back in that intervention phase
Let's see if they managed to have the damage or shield this time around of course technically speaking
They would always have the damage, but they want to stay if they wouldn't don't want to use all of their cool answer
shield because they want to have damage for the second phase as well and that's why they are making
it as close as they can. They want to allocate as much damage as they need for the shield and not
more than that. So we'll see if they manage to get it done this time around, the next pull happening
in eight seconds. Unfortunately we did lose Kha'Nix here, so we'll see if they have enough
damage four seconds left. Oh my gosh, this looks quite... The rest has a five second cast time
After it comes up on the bar, so you still have a little bit of time afterwards. We did lose soul as well
So we've lost our hunter and our boomkin
I mean when we don't we lost canyx. It's like has anything in value really been lost, but now that we've lost the boom
The hunter as well. There is a little bit of reduced DPS
Although he's playing feral, isn't it? So actually he is doing some damage in this fight rather than
Typical boomkin gamers. You guys gonna get buffed again at some point soon. Do you think?
Okay, I think I don't think we need maybe a single type of we're gonna rework very soon from like the new patch
But anyway, we are in that second phase with the two people that I think it's a progress through this and they're gonna get a rest in a
little bit so the first is still coming through here on
Jinji hopeful is entering the portal next that was really close
He didn't manage though as the second this will come through as well Narko going down
So that means we're gonna play with two dead damage dealers because one rush coming up in 10 seconds as they move on to the second platform
Bloodlust of course is running as well
They need to get through this shield very quickly while also dealing with the mythic portal as we've seen without these other
Disfills servo and nice memes are about to go through there. We are kush next up alongside frag
Importantly while you're transitioning between faith between stages the portal timer isn't ticking down
So when you jump up the portal timer resets to 10 seconds when you go on to the bridge the portal timer resets until it like until the portal spawns
When you get onto the second platform and then when you move up this bridge the portal timer resets
You can see it says enter portal go right. They're not missing it
It's resetting as they go up to the next platform. It's attached to the X
Yeah, so when that is that the portal disappears and then a new one spawns with like a new
Cast hand basically don't have to worry about it. Yeah, a Santa just missed that portal. I think yep
Yeah, it was on his screen, just was concentrating on other things, didn't realize, and didn't quite take the portal in time.
So yesterday, Kenex played Ferrel all day long, doing very respectable middle of the pack damage.
Today, he is back to boonkin. And I suspect that has to do with last phase.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
There's a lot of adds, a lot of adds that are very spread out and difficult to do much with as Ferrel.
Feral's single target was very good yesterday, but they've seen that the last phase is very very hard and likely to be the sticking point
So I think that's why it's going back to Munkin
Yeah, that's interesting. I think we've talked about this where when we saw all of these ads, they're like, oh, that's probably a damage profile for Munkin
And it is true, Munkin is pretty good for Sped up targets
That's why Kha'Nix actually struggles a little bit to survive in Phase 1 now
Of course, Sped up a little bit tankier than Munkin in comparison
So now Kha'Nix, I feel bad a little bit for Kha'Nix, right?
He has to like relearn these fights on different roles and different because yeah, it's still a damage dealer, right?
But it's a range instead of melee which is definitely makes it very different. He's probably need to find a different spot where he puts his
Root compared to the melee so he has to go further back. He has different positioning
Of course a completely different rotation as well. He's squishier. So he has to like we
Think the way he uses defensives. So yeah, it's gonna be a bit hard for Khaenix to to get to that last phase
And also mookin probably not too good up until that last point. Yeah true
Can you speck switch in the middle of a fight?
Unfortunately not.
Unfortunately imagine that it is genocidal.
Like as he's flying through the air as a panther he changes into an owl landing into P3.
Yeah, that should be like a druid thing like only druids can do this like you know how the druids can't shape change.
You know how druids have a meta?
You know when you jump in and in the air you turn into a meta?
That's like a demon hunter?
That should be like the same for druids, you know?
You jump in the air as a moon kid and then in the air you turn into a cat and then you land into a feral.
The problem is, you already have four specs, I don't want to give you more stuff.
But it would be very fitting for druids to be able to do that.
And I can't think of another class that it would fit well.
I guess as a priest you could like sit down and taking you oath of fealty to like whatever good day or two you want in the middle of the fight
You could like turn like what does it why is a shadow priest a shadow priest because they're evil probably
I don't know that would make sense right, but is that true because if that is true like you just like jump we can make some way
There are like there's like something purple and you grab it in the knowledge and you're evil, you know
Yeah, one it's one is powered by the light and one's powered by the antithesis
which is a fancy word that Sam started to use, which is void. Apparently the opposite of light is not
dark according to WoW law. Void is the opposite of light. Which does make sense. Because dark is
just the absence of light, right? That doesn't mean it's the opposite. The opposite of light
is nothing in this regard, I guess, which is void. I mean, void is evil.
But isn't dark also the absence of light as well?
Yeah, but that doesn't make it the opposite.
Oh, I see.
What would the opposite of light be?
The void is what they're saying, because like the opposite of you is not you not being
here.
The opposite of you would be...
That is true.
I can't really define.
So the opposite of light would be... light we can't see.
Or void.
No, I don't like this void idea.
Okay, we're finding a new idea.
Let me just get... what's his name? The guy whose name starts with M on the phone.
Metzen. That's the one. Let me just get Metzen on the phone.
Ring ring ring ring!
You should call Mr Blizzard.
Hello Mr Blizzard. We have been discussing Void.
We don't like this idea that Shadow Priests are the opposite of Light Priests because they're powered by the Void.
We have thought perhaps they could be powered by something else.
Your mirrors is a lot of smiling.
don't have any suggestions but when we know we'll get back to you. Oh wait I have
one really funny joke I have to do before we leave. There's no way it's funny. Do we have a
pen, like a big bit of paper and a pen Sam? Yeah, can you find me one? Is it going to be a
funny S-year magician joke? Oh this is top-tier joke. I remember the other day because
I'm gonna have to we're gonna have to call our session about 10 minutes or so
so I can start getting ready.
In 10 minutes already?
Yeah, wait, it's 10.7 and Sam said he wanted me off the desk
and out of the house by about 11 o'clock and I need to finish doing stuff.
I'll read these couple of donations while Sam finds me a bit of paper and a pen.
$25 from Anonymous saying we need more medic and Nagura cast.
What needs to happen for Nagura to make an appearance at the Worlds?
Are you gonna come?
I mean, I did play a lot of League of Legends before
and I feel like that is the only requirement to become a League of Legends caster, right?
100% just gotta play a lot of League. You don't even have to do that, I'll be honest. You just have to be able to talk about it.
It's like, wow, you guys all play Final Fantasy, don't you?
I can do the airplay lolgul every day.
Yeah, and you do so well at that, don't you?
Your connections are going to be so much worse now that I'm not sitting next to you and able to walk across.
I felt so arrogant yesterday though, because you were in the middle of a game and you said, I need a smart person and I immediately stood up and I was like, what?
To be fair, I did ask you to help me with my wordles many times so you're probably like
here we go again.
Here we go again, these connections.
A Shakespearean plays was a good one.
That was difficult, those were difficult.
And I mean you are very smart so I think you're allowed to say that once in a while.
As they get to work-
You're just not very funny.
No, that's true.
We had one dollar from anonymous as well say look I just donated because everyone
says you're a great medic, but honestly I'm still trying to figure out who you are, are
you the intern they brought in to fill space or something? Carrow heart. Did you send this?
I did. Yeah, I thought so. You signed it. If you're going to be anonymous you probably
shouldn't sign the message. I didn't quite understand the rules. I'm going to work
on this one for next time. We actually had a very decent try here as we are in phase 2,
start of phase 2. We do have the adds down, did make the damage check here. Everyone's going to
get knocked to the platform, everyone is alive, we don't have a battle rest but another one is
going to come up soon and now of course we need to finish up these adds while we also have to
deal with the shadowgate mechanic. Jinji is the one going through first with Mini on the
other side so you're basically switching places. Now they get the dispel in a moment which
which does so much damage to your group. Unfortunately, Nysmine's desk goes down, but we'll rest for them soon.
Then, we do have Hopeful that it's going to go through in just a moment with Revis for the other team.
And this one is actually a difficult portal, because you get pulled on both sides.
There we go. Now, we actually interrupted the pull, because we had enough damage to cancel that.
That was very good. Now, Bloodlust is going to be popped in just a moment.
Nysmine's is going to get rested in a moment, too. There we go. Bloodlust is running.
And now we need to make sure we get through this absorb shield as fast as possible.
There's just so much damage coming in and all of the pools plus the portal disfiles is just so so much as kush is entering
In just a moment. He is pre-positioning frago already through from the other side. This does coming through nice means still not getting rest
We're interesting. It makes sense that they don't necessarily need the damage, but there we go
Yeah, now the rest is coming up also depends on where nice means is with his death
Right because if he's sitting in the middle of the bottom platform because he's being rested down there
His body can be sitting there. He rezzes and he immediately is just
Sucking the stuff anyway. We do have a white support who was miss
So close it was very close. It was very close. It's almost like I just go through the portal as well
That is possible. Maybe they snap over here. We got at some point half the greatest that maybe they just come from the other
Yeah, or the other platform over yeah, unfortunately, I mean again Kennex having to switch
SPAC going from a melee DPS to a ranged DPS. He probably needs to get used to what he's doing
a little bit because of course he's a ranged DPS now and he plays a completely different
SPAC which means that he has to really focus on his rotation and what he's gonna do on
these platforms and this is one of the few times where we got to this platform with
everyone alive so that can take some slack even if it was even his fault.
So this is a chicken?
This is indeed a chicken.
This is a chicken.
What's this?
chicken the beak yeah what's this the feet yeah what's this tail yep what's the
one part of the chicken we haven't talked about it's very it's in the middle
yeah okay remember that word okay I'm very glad I remembered all the parts of
chickens very okay put out your thumbs like this
Oh, what a great way to eat the book.
It just makes me so happy.
It's not on yet.
Good morning.
There we are.
Good morning.
Good morning.
I was cackling behind you there.
You're going to join us as well, Jesse?
Hello.
No, not the pastry.
Oh, yeah.
I was like, hang on a second.
Where did they show up?
OK, OK.
Right.
Oh, OK, OK.
We can talk about this afterwards.
We've been saying how wonderful it is to have him.
I was your, we reached 30,000.
I was your Caster Appreciation Day present-giver.
So I had to give it to you before you left.
I have wrapped it in a bin bag.
Thank you.
Because that's all I could find.
Let's have a look.
Thank you so much, Jordan.
I had to give it to you before you left.
So I got you your first wow mount.
It's an inflatable flamingo mount.
Oh, that's amazing.
I love that.
Thank you so much, Jordan.
I really appreciate it. I will wear it with pride.
I am Silas at the moment, Sam.
Yeah, I will wear it with pride. Thank you so much.
Before Medic leaves, we also need to get a caster picture going, right?
Yeah.
Are we doing this while the broadcast is happening?
Nice to listen in with you. Thank you everyone.
It's been an honor to be here and I'll be watching from chat with the rest of you.
Hearts in the chat with Medic has been so nice having you.
you want to change that some people need to hit them more so they're not always
last can we do that as me you can also just not hit anything at that point it's
really bad I mean I will do more damage the problem right now is that I need a
reminder to use my infernal and you want earlier I just forget it's such a
random point I need to use it yeah yeah me when you need to do it and I only
you can use yours on that last bit there like we were on the bridge i guess but flicks
can't really use these there because then he won't be ready when we went in last week
okay so i hold mine for uh after i like it i can run it up
is this a mandate or something park there's so much to do it
10 million there's chaos in this thing
there's one chaos bolt
I want to have a...
Alright, Kim, you chaos-walled them earlier.
I... I... I did mend I'd cushion more.
I'll skip you, brogis. We're sending brogis there.
What happened here, by the way?
Fraggle was assigned to a kick there, but he's not even the club.
Yeah, my uh, reaker was ping-ponging.
Uh...
Cushion. Oh, yeah, I think...
Oh, I'm not supposed to get the portal.
I'm not supposed to get the portal, uh...
Yeah, nice means he was dead. That's why.
He's supposed to be doing moves.
Worst case we can shift thing for another kick here.
But that's also why we would have been here with the BH buff.
We still share health, need to kill the outside adds faster.
The inner adds, the other team can help us, but they can't help us with the outside ones.
Who's gonna pass them harder?
Wolves?
Yeah, Albert's tetanus.
You can see that a lot of times.
I would rather do a lot more if I don't get the portal one.
Perfect.
Wolves, evokers.
You too.
Yeah.
And next to my sword, plus, I'm pretty sure of it.
If someone takes PI right now in intermission, can I pre-fire it a little bit?
No, but if you pre-fire it, you should give it to someone else in intermission.
Like someone that has a longer CD, I would gain nothing from a pre-send PI.
It's not taking it.
No, mine is taking it.
It's awkward with my trigger.
now because you're sending a bolt.
If I can take my third trigger, then I can change some time
history.
Yes.
The third trigger?
Yeah.
Like I'm doing cross trigger on the last quarter.
And that delays.
I don't think the PIS is that important to me.
I don't think so.
If I just remember to pre-fire my inferno, let's go.
Yeah.
Let's probably do more.
So you send my coolers gig early,
and don't put them in intermission.
That's fine as well.
But then we lose the intermission damage.
I'll just do the same. It's going to be fine.
Yeah. I will also do more on them. I'm always shambled by the pot they go in and then I'm 10% health.
And then I make a focus on my health instead of doing damage every time.
What did you die tonight? Just me, or what was this?
Yeah, I got mad at it.
I'm excited because I'm... I mean if you check my poll for that LinkedIn team's week, I'll go back a little bit.
It's because I'm running, go back a little bit south of this platform, it's because I'm running to bait the ad, and I don't want to throw enjudgements on him, but then he got a split second, so he's just going to hit the other guy for a global instead.
Never happened before, it was the first time, but I don't think we should look at it this way.
Okay, yeah, let's get it then. Let's get it
8 minutes on foot that's enough
One thing you could also do is moving more people off the shield out because right now
I'm not hitting the shield out because it would be overkill if I hit it, but it's really efficient for me to hit it
I think it's just ginger in you. I'm not hitting it all right now. That's why I didn't touch it
I think what we did now
Was really good mine died also like it didn't die too fast and then die too early either
It's like good in between I think I think if they focus the swapping over to the ads hanging
I think it's a
Feel good, I think you can also do you call if it's not dying and I can swap it soul and kill it with you
Will you ready?
Damage by shuttle burning it because my shut up on resets when I execute something
I'm just running around pressing shut up on and that
She did yeah, I'm ready
oh my god this is so disgusting bro what what this guy's this guy's ban from drinking
enough to excite him it smells like fucking like he just shed on the ground dude
what what let's please please don't tell me i'm like that oh my god i feel what is
that's a legal one right there
ready to run now, go
late under you now
interface ones up guys, this will be
very soon, good call
watch the gloves
watch the chain, holds under you soon
ready and roots coming, running on the timer, two, one, ready, blades under you now, thanks
Brett, blades under you again, touching the blobs now, push touch, blades under you now,
Pools now, ready for routes, we're spreading on the Stammer
Game 1, go
Plates under you now, positioning for Torx Sins, we're about there
3-2-leg it to the other side of the routes
Legging it in 2, 1, and leg it
Plates under you now, kill edge
Okay, 1 second, it's fine, 5 seconds
Push the plugs, plugs now, plugs, plugs, and great damage and one, let's run extra far
with the pull-in if you can, and two, one, pull-in, gateway, you need, gateway could
be a bit further to the left, initial, plugs coming, push the DPS plug, yeah, plugs,
Great, let's run away, 3, 2, 1, play good, let's watch the blobs now, a lot of space, watch the blobs,
stay to the left more left side, these are growing, blobs, watch the blobs, we got the damage, don't worry,
push the bobs
put the rest of the small easy clap
let's go
push the orbs now don't die
instinctive
and it's closing
two, one
now
orbs and we're facing
remember
don't get a melee or something
whatever you need to do for that
melee engine
Next, bells in two, one, bells in two.
Yeah, that does it.
Reversal pull next.
Bells in two, one, now pulling.
Nice skip, go out.
And the person's up on the platform.
Trouble nipers next.
the interrupts of this wall and spells in 2, 1, now, okay, push nice moves next
and of course it dispels in 2, 1, now, okay, Azzee
kill spider
and we're back, I'm now here with microplacing medic, unfortunately did have to go
but we have a very good pull so let's focus on this one as they are now on that third
and last platform before they reach the last phase, unfortunately, as we come back in, they missed the portal, it is that last portal that we missed already once earlier, interesting, so this is actually, okay I don't want to say the casikers, I mean that's just what happened, but it's the same as the casikers, no but it was the same, this is the same
This is a very good pull! Dead!
The moment you came in.
Okay, they definitely are struggling in this moment.
Literally, they're wiped before. What's that same portal?
I'm not sure it was 10x or the other person had to go in.
I'm not sure. And they may be juggling it, because there's this really unfortunate overlap
where they pop bloodlust in order to deal with the dead speaker shielded ad.
And then Krush has to do a portal, so he walks away during bloodlust,
skin cooldowns, and AFKs next to the portal for like 3 or 4 seconds.
I think they may be juggling who's supposed to go into it, which is going to change timings
You have to learn your timing for going in depending on the mechanics that are occurring. So yeah gonna be some learning there
Wow
We were looking at it. This is awesome. This is really good
Production literally said they're definitely getting to pastry. So we need to go back actually production curse
Yeah, Mitch actually totally ruined one hundred percent production curse
I think it might be time for productions pickle challenge because they won
They haven't done that, you know
Yeah, really sad we'll get there
I mean we have space on both sides here
We can come in
Should I, I can
Yeah, it can make things happen
But a good morning for Echo, regardless
Interesting they're still, even with all alive
They chose still to bloodlust that
Second platform, because they know they can't do that
That's gonna have to go at some point
But I assume they want a bit more phase 3 practice
And so they're just gonna block that down
three's health doesn't matter it's about controlling and figuring out what the
hell is going on with the confirmed we were thinking yesterday is like is it
five ads or is it going to be like Halondra's where they added a new bomb
every phase and it gets the last one is like where's the bomb yeah and it
didn't appear but nope there is five dangly boys gonna be joining us in that
last phase Roger looks really stressed out I can imagine yeah he came in the
castor room I feel like how you feeling you're out I don't know dude I
I don't know this is this is a little spooky, you know this is a little spooky like I mean at this point
We're kind of praying for a Hail Mary that something weird happens. Oh
By so many times
You're gonna make me watch League of Legends now, you know that right
See you medic be good food with an absolute joys have made on the cast a bit of professionalism for the echo cast for
I mean, can we say that just wanted to say that he came in here hacked both Mike and Jesse
You already said goodbye. I
Haven't said goodbye yet. You said okay that it I know I know that is why but it looked weird to the streams
I feel like I had to explain it
I think it doesn't like
That's good a hug the girl but that smell I just couldn't get close
That's what he told me when he gave me the hug.
I didn't actually take a shower today.
Yeah, he knows.
Yeah.
He didn't send a shower.
I actually believe you.
I did not shower today.
I'll shower later because I go to the gym.
I already did that.
I don't want to shower twice a day.
Yeah, me and Jesse have already hit the gym.
Yep, we've done our bit.
Yeah.
And that's it.
Now we're full of pastries.
How was your session?
Gym into pastries.
Gym immediately into pastries and Red Bull.
Thanks again.
again because they were actually delicious. I had the cinnamon one with the glaze on top.
I don't know what was in any of them. It was so good. I picked anything that looked nice.
Yeah. And then I was like, I don't know what these are. And then really sadly, the lady at the
counter went, what have you got? I don't know. And she went, oh, what's in this one? I don't know.
She just went, right. I'm like, they looked nice. And she spoke English and she was fine.
They do look nice, and she greeted me and then she just kind of yo-loaded a load of pastries through the tail
and just went, yeah, that'll do. I think they're all a donut, that'll do. They're all gone now though.
They're all gone. Yeah, I was having a bite of one Jinji when I went,
oh, what are you eating? Yeah, try it. Anyway, that's a really good one. Yeah, you can have that now when you're like, yeah.
All the pastries have been devoured as well as the rest of our pictures which have just been left with despair face.
Not appropriate. We're not into spare. We're in good times,
But obviously fear have you done theories? Yeah, I know exactly what happens. Okay. Let's do theory number one with Jesse
It's not a theory. It is what happens. Not happening. Okay. Let us know what happens
What happens is when the boss hits 20% she
Fully ascends you get about a 20 second deep kiss window on her while she's casting her ascension
Then the platform breaks you crash down to the spider web
We've all seen underneath the platform in this form fully ascended
She takes 20% more damage dealing 10% more damage than you deal with her down on the spider webs
same mechanics no yeah it's highly different phase a different phase that's
primarily a DPS burn as she's ascended that's running on the back of the
theory that usually some sort of mythical twist is usually not that hard
exactly it's also running on the theory that if you if you're if you have to do
more than getting her to 20% it's not happening this week this has to happen
somehow it's interesting though because I mean if there would be some major
changes I feel like it would be incredibly unlikely that we haven't
the mind anything I'm saying nothing I'm saying no what's your theory I okay so
much I do I do want Jesse's theory to be true that we break through the platform
so I get pulled into the middle because maybe the platform doesn't break but
maybe she like crawls down through the middle and like pulls everyone with her
webs downstairs like that would also look really cool so and then downstairs
you just take like more damage because yeah the health of the boss is too high for it to die this week
I will I said this to Roger because Roger was obviously they're thinking about it here and
Roger was looking at me I was like there's one thing that's important to me right now
they have been absolutely on the money with the health values of their bosses yeah but everything
this too. They have really dialed it in perfectly as to what is possible for every single boss.
They have like minor tweaks to Kai Bezza but it was like a little bit more, then a little bit less
but they got it like right on the money for where that needs to be and they did for the others as
well. And they they nerfed um Silicon Corp of 5% which was not needed like they could have killed
it with 5% more and we were wondering okay why did they do this like they could have left the
the boss they would have been able to kill it like the next reset right so maybe
they they knew how much time it would take them to kill queen answer egg and
everything you know what we are nervous boss now by 5% just to make it like
easier for them we know five because the initial health value was fine and
then they're like okay let's know of it because we know queen answer egg is
gonna be difficult and we want them to be able to kill it soon ish
They aimed for 10 days, we're about there now.
Did I use the 10th bit right?
Yeah, so we're close.
So if they, you know, Blizzard does aim for 10 roundabout plus or minus one or two.
So yeah, and like they also wanted to get rid of the two tank, the one tank, even thought
process on Silicon Court.
So you know, it's like, okay, okay, you guys are pushing everything.
All right, we're going to make sure you can't do that.
We'll nerf to coincide with the damage values of what you were seeing previously
to balance it.
But nothing like sweeping mega changes have happened, they've been pretty damn close and
getting it absolutely perfect of what the players can dish out.
My theory, I think this is a door boss.
I am sending a door boss.
Do you have another pipe available from which I can huff over there?
That's not a thing in Wales!
It cooked!
It's never a thing until it happens.
It's never a thing until it happens.
And I would lose my mind if they went full door boss on this and be like, oh my god,
it's happening.
It's absolutely happening.
But I'm with you guys.
I think something is waiting for us at the, it could be the 30% mark as well.
Obviously Liquid made it to 35.
30%, 20% is the number that keeps floating around that something is going to happen
because, and the reason we're saying that guys is because otherwise, oh no, like even
next reset, I mean.
I do want to tell you, chat is inundating with questions, what is a door boss?
Sure, yeah, so a door boss is a technique that has been used in raiding in FF14 for a
very, very long time with their very, very hard bosses.
And it often appears either in their ultimate fights, which are huge, enormous megafights
like 25 minutes long of something as difficult as Queen Amserec, or it usually happens
at the end boss of their savage mythic equivalent bosses where you essentially hit, you could
call it a checkpoint but you hit some stage of the fight. Usually it's where the fight
would ordinarily end in other versions of the fight or something similar. And then what
happens is the boss changes into an unseen new entire version of that fight that is
considerably more difficult and ramps itself up. But for the remaining time that you
go in there but remember FF 14 instances are on a timer so you have to reset them
every couple of hours or so it varies you start there instead of here so wow has
done stuff like this in the past we've seen fights in the past all the way
years back as next ramus which had like limited attempts and tries in order
to try and decide hamper the pace of the guild's Algalon also had a two
hour time limit one hour one hour something like that that you could
Actually attempt and do that boss per week. So they have toyed with ideas like this in the past
So the idea is that a certain point and siric would ascend essentially and then we would get a new boss
There is a door boss that has either some sort of tries or some sort of
Thing going on with it that the guys then proceed from there on up until certain point
But I'd be very curious if they go that way or just just flat out make a new ascended Queen and siric boss
or absolutely nothing happens and there is no god damn way that this I mean I
can't say that every time we felt that way about a boss they they've done it yeah
every single time they've done it the problem is like that the mechanics are
so difficult than what we've seen in phase three so far like even just
figure like even if you stop that much completely on the boss you fully just
focus on the ads you play the mechanics and everything like even that
itself is super hard right and then looking at the boss HP 35% for liquid
right as they're in a lead right now they have cut them through most of that
phase right there's some time left and of course they're still optimizing to
like loads of optimized right they can shift the bloodlust into the last phase
they can min-max the damage on the edge so not not everyone goes on the
edge because right now I'm sure still everyone is completely switching to the
edge whenever they're responding to really making sure they're not gonna
to wipe and at some point you can do as much damage as needed on the edge and everything
else is going to be boss damage so there's lots of optimizing to do but still a long
growth to lock.
Just not quiet 20% you know because let's say 15% is what you can optimize but then the
boss is still 20% left and 35% is a lot of health that is just so much health so it's
going to be very difficult for them to get there.
And we do know we have a hard lock on how far this fight can go I mean even if you shenanigans the 12 debuffs by throwing them to tanks or throwing them to a muti classes
Even that would be very hard to even execute
I really don't think you can live with the debuff plus the essence. It's 7 million damage per second per target. I don't even think 10 can live through that
Can't immune it for a while?
Of course you could have nice memes netherwalk to get through the portal with one and you could throw a spell blessing and spell warding on someone to get through the portal with one
Between now with bubble for a bit?
Yeah, but whoever does it will die. 15 seconds of 7 million damage per second. I don't think any tank can live.
And I don't believe that Blizzard will have designed a fight in such a way as it requiring pink sacks and depths. I don't think that they will have designed it to require that.
Okay, we said this before though, and it is technically possible that they require you to have intentional deaths for their mythic guilds.
Like they can say, okay, we are gonna have this boss work like that for the mythic guilds, or for the racial first guilds,
and then afterwards they're gonna change the mechanic or reduce the amount of acolytes that there are to not have that be a requirement.
because we've seen the same thing on bosses like Paintsman where you had to like use a gateway or other like blinks or whatever to get through or
Over that wall so I do think there is a possibility that Blizzard actually said you know what we want two people to die
with that essence to make it possible and that be like part of the
difficulty because at that point in the fight if you didn't use any valorizer before you could rest those two people back up
I mean, that would be Archibon Mythic style, you know, they were, I mean, as we said, Don
Chai-Vezza, Combat Rez is a resource. It is there to be used. It's not just there as a
safety note, certainly at the mythic level, which is exactly what all the guilds did on
Chai-Vezza is that was like, nope, this is not for mistakes anymore. This is actually
just a resource, a raid tool that we're using similar to Bloodlust, similar to anything
else. That's where we're putting into that category. That's been done for years
and years and years is to bypass mechanics, get around them, intentional deaths, things
that would require perfect play but that's not new here unfortunately in the Narubar Palace perfect
play has been a big part of a lot of these end-wing bosses to make it happen but in great news to
celebrate everything that is Narubar Palace and where we're going the baked beans banger
Oh has just gone live
The official song of the race from echo is live including samples taken from you the viewer
Selecting and voting on them the bait beans back. Are we ever gonna listen to this?
Okay, send it. Have you heard it? No? Oh, I want to know the bait beans banger
I can't hear it, you can see the loudness.
There we go.
This is just you, you're vocalist now.
Give it a sec.
Okay, we have to hold the beans, hold.
Oh, the drops come in big beans.
Here we go, hold the beans.
I do love the different beans.
It's a good combo, it's great.
All right, there you go.
Give us your beans.
I punch it in the kidneys, I punch it in your beans.
It's the baked beans banner.
I'll tell you what I want to do.
The all-increase.
Baked beans through the sussy for the Twitch chat.
I think we absolutely need Chris.
Chris, we need a baked beans sussy.
This is so good.
We need sussy beans.
It's like a thousand people listening to you.
There you go.
Your beans on Spotify.
I love it.
Yeah?
Yeah.
It's this way you've got your eyes to all those years ago.
I think I might have to call my mum right now.
Crying.
Well, a great track. Thank you to Low Wave who've been working with Echo to produce the
album for Narabar Pass. They've been listening to those bangers in all the breaks and things
like that. It's live on Spotify now. If you want to go and take a listen, have some jams,
and obviously the rest of Echo's album is uprising, I think it's called. Is that correct?
Yep. If you search Uprising or Echo on Spotify, you'll find it. One of the first
albums custom made by Low Wave and Association with Echo. I know Mitch worked really closely
with them to get the songs exactly as they liked it and as you like it when you're listening
and coming up with exceptional pastors to go along with the tracks here at the Race
to World First. I think people look forward now as much as the race is just coming up
with cool pastors for the songs in the chat. We often sit in the cast room and see what
guys have come up with each race making wide-nessie. Wide-nessie became so popular that Ubisoft
made me one. I got a wide-nessie sent to my office so I was like what the hell?
That is so funny like sometimes with like their votes,
god it's hilarious and also when they like pretend to be bosses like joined and lost as well but
it's so funny. Root twister. Oh it was so good. I didn't even want them to kill it.
I actually was like, I hope they keep wiping because it's just worms with wine like, nice try.
Have you considered attacking my eggs?
It was comedy gold.
Yeah, I'm not sure if we've got one for answer, we need a little answer.
I saw someone all fine was some sort of dancing spider to go along with it.
But yeah, you guys have been absolutely incredible throughout this entire race.
And we did say last night as me and Nogura finished off the cast, it's like, it's tomorrow the last day.
I think we're in for a surprise today that is not the kill, that's what I think we're going to see from Echo
Okay, that would be good though, like so you're saying that they're going to overtake Liquid basically
because of course Liquid is asleep right now
Okay, so that is like what we're working towards right, like whatever happens afterwards we don't really know
but overtaking Liquid would be the goal for Echo today of course, at least to go even but
Preferably overtaking them. I think they go overtake because this is where echo seems to pull
They call it the clutch echo last boss buff, but echo plays
In a way that's frustrating for us a little bit because we feel a lot of stress, you know
Casting it and going through it is like, okay
You guys came to be trolling a little bit like this needs to get together
You need to sigh out and they're like but then when you speak to Roger you speak to scribe
They're totally fine. Yeah, that's super chill. They're like, they're like, you know, this is all part of the plan
So good and then when it gets to the last boss they lock it. Can we show kush right now?
Look, he's sad. Oh, like there's something that changes like when you look at kush at any other boss as he abuses that cheap death resource
That's what it's there for
It changes the whole thing's changing and I think it's changed now
So I suspect we have a few checkpoints to hit right in the next few hours
One is going to be getting to phase three again first and having a look around
They've obviously got some tech the Roger has been slept three hours. I think he told me he was up all night cooking
Getting things done. He's totally fine. He made breakfast for
the writers did he
We got the laundry back and they had mixed up some socks unfortunate like some
People is like the socks incident. What a prock
And now you just have to give a proct more socks than you've ever done.
Yeah, he was at the canycks this morning, came to me while I was in the gym, he's like
dude I've proct more socks, are these yours?
But, oh dude I'm good.
But yeah, so mix up in the laundry, I think someone's got my underwear somewhere, I got
like three back, I'm like, okay, a little odd.
An underwear stealer.
Yeah, not a sniffer, thank god, that'll do.
Oh, Medic's gone now, so.
Yeah, he's got all our underwear.
He's leaving with all these underwear gloves.
He's creeping on perfect and elevator that he just takes all the underwear
Attention perfect so shoes got no leave for my wife, but actually I got a little feel to it
It's like when you buy the shoes really they are nice shoes
He's a Greek fashionista is as the portal is about to go down four percent left plenty of time before the yank actually
We've got to top that raid up though because we know how dangerous it is even with just
this one add or two adds on either side is we've seen people get melted here but it's
clean.
Combat res in hand for Echo.
We're going to pay a little attention here.
We're likely to still see this platform two bloodlust is what we'll call it.
I don't think they're going to get rid of that.
It will be part of the checkpoints for today is to drop that.
As you see Sol got taken down either by the portal or those orbs that come flying
across.
Reves has been taken, needs to be topped before they fly up, there it is.
Oh, it's Kha'Nex healing him, oh wow, that's cute.
And Kha'Nex actually going to the portal now, so they changed the portals a little bit,
it's not Jinji and Mini anymore, it is now Kha'Nex, because Kha'Nex clearly had a hard
time getting into the portal, they walked twice to it, maybe it is a movement thing
that is missing and now it's going to be probably Jinji replacing Kha'Nex on that
portal that was the issue.
But hopeful and Reves still the second set of portal goers, the disbar coming
through, they did a great job with finishing off the game.
Oh no! It didn't cancel!
It didn't cancel!
Oh!
It's going to be, actually the cameras now in just a moment in four seconds they can
get now back up so they might be able to continue, never mind me as they go down.
That's the first time I've seen this.
It must have been right on the same server to, yeah, it's great laughing.
Yeah, that was maybe even a little bit of a delay, server delay because the ad
What was that? So usually the way what happens is that the Yank, the webs that pull you, they...
Even if the animation is still there, it does not actually go through if the ad goes down before the pull, the Yank.
So yeah, they didn't expect it to happen. Already walked up the platform and then the Yank still went through.
On some players it even looked like all of them were pulled. It looked like some of them only.
Maybe. Yeah, that must have been the exact second the animation went through, because Blizzard have been pretty clever.
We were actually praising them earlier. They thought of like, okay, that would just be really annoying
if you've cleared a platform and the yank goes out. We don't want to lose the yank mechanic
and it alternates between the sides, so they made it so that if that's out there it cancels
because you've spawned the next bridge and resets it back to the other side. But obviously,
if it happens exactly at the same point, lesson learned. We're 140, 50 pulls deep.
and it's like, huh, okay, new tech learnt here but another lovely poll from Echo and new knowledge
acquired, why partner, they learnt something, now they need to be a little wary of that happening,
it should cancel, didn't cancel, but that'd be another checkpoint they want to do is drop that
bloodlust because it'll have to go to the last phase of this point so they can try and manage
these four and five ads, they don't have a huge amount of HP, I think in total I think you
You worked out yesterday, Jesse, it was about 90 million.
That base HP for shield is about 90?
91 million, exactly.
Very good memory.
And that's the base health plus the shield,
the shield break allowing you to start kicking them,
which is very important because that damage ramps up
very quickly and it's causing deaths as well.
It's about 64 million health, 27 million shield.
Yeah, just multiply by that five, easy.
Yeah, not so easy.
I can't even express to you guys that dude
with Jesse as a purpose for this,
like there's something sussy going on here.
It's very sussy.
Yeah.
Well, while we're waiting for them to do another pull with the changes that they have employed and applied, I'm trying to mix all of the words together.
Why Feral go away? Why Feral go away?
Because of last phase. Why can't you go away?
The wings are gone.
we do have new donations coming in thank you so much for everyone that has been
donating to a good cause for games for love we do have $25 by Andrea and they say to all the
casters in production love the immense wonderful job this race has this race has been fun while it
worked to medic the new guy you have been wonderful we are going to miss you we await your return
next time thank you so much. He did say he wants to come back was he being polite or is he
We will know next time.
We will find out.
I did definitely notice that the last few days,
Medic has been a little bit exhausted.
He's like, I didn't think it was going to be that hard,
like working every day.
Like, oh my God.
So maybe he won't return.
We'll see. I hope he does.
We do have $100 donation by Tony.
They say, love that Medic is on the cast now.
Keep up the good work, you guys.
Thank you so, so much.
And we have $10 by ProudAustrian.
They say, Edna Gura, how can you sit there
How can you sit there and let them talk like that about Austria?
Somebody from North Tyrol, I am disappointed.
Just for the jokes, very cool race.
Good job, everybody.
I'm so sorry, my Tyrolean friends.
I do appreciate you very much.
Well, they basically said that nobody cares about Austria.
Farx?
Austria is great.
I love Austria.
Austria is fine.
They're great.
It's a beautiful country.
Not bad.
It's like, if you compare Germany and Austria, I feel like Austria is so beautiful.
It's say similar as Germany like you know to speak the same language and everything they're very close to each other
But I'll say it's like the more beautiful mountains landscape and I do think they have better food
I think Austria is superior
Yeah, yep, I would prefer
Vacation-wise Austria to Germany every picture I've ever seen of where everybody I speak to from Austria
Shows me a picture of their house and it's always just like a screensaver. It's so beautiful
And it's weird. It's like, oh yeah, I live in this like crappy town. They talk about it like they live in a dump
Oh, yeah, right. They talk about it like they're literally living in a trash can. They're like, yeah
So I live on like I live this that's just like crystal clear lake or whatever
Other people are like really nice it sucks
What are you talking about? That sounds like dillock. Yeah, it's all right
Nobody likes where they live for some reason everyone seems to think they live in the most miserable place
I love Missouri. We love Missouri. Hell yeah. What do you do for a fun in Missouri? Look at the cows, the girls and corn
That's exactly what I do too.
You don't go stabbing or anything like that.
Why would we stab? We have guns. Well we have culture in Manchester.
I'm just so impersonal.
That is true.
Actually, yeah, that's good point.
That I think about is...
Yeah, that's just glorious.
I like where I live. It's nice.
We have cows too.
We have cows, we have corn, we have mountains.
Do you have anything where you live?
Cows, corn and mountains.
I always hate hearing the story of you going home anytime.
It's like the most Willy Wonka adventure I've ever heard of in my life, like, your airport is like six hours away, and then you've got to get on the back of some sort of creature, and there's a Sherpa who leads you up from here.
My Sherpa picks me up a hundred meters from the border of the province, because you're not allowed to enter with any kind of vehicle that isn't allowed.
But it's powered by anything.
see you in a different life being one of those Alaskan survivalists you know he lives in the
shed in the middle of a frozen forest and it's just you and a raccoon.
Jerry.
Yeah Jerry the raccoon and then if you go five to twenty years later you're just grunting
one.
But then you go and he's still screaming hello.
Some backwards animals attack last night.
No one's watching like we don't have internet.
Oh people would watch that.
Nogura in the backwards? People would totally watch that. That is a gold idea.
Yeah, I think there's a new show in my head. It's called Survivalism with Nogura,
and we just dump you in like Alaska or the middle of the desert with like, I don't know,
bottle of water and a tent. Go for it. It's funny because I would love doing it,
but I'm so bad at like, literally everything. Well, not baking cakes. Well, okay,
not baking cakes, but like surviving, so like coming up with like ideas on how we would
survive because i mean you know i'm like gamer no of course i cannot fish but i would love to try
and figure it out you don't it was so boring i love fishing it's crazy boring i wouldn't do normal
fishing i would just like try to like get them out of the leg with my bare hands like oh giga
time oh you didn't have to speak for that i've seen you get out of the chair no that's crazy
No way or like a spear spear fishing. Yeah, but you got to deal with like the refraction of the water
There's a technique to it. I've tried fishing six times within ten minutes. I am out. I'm like, this is so boring
What about ice fishing like oh now we're cold and bored
You're demeaning my state's nothing like pastime this is great. Oh my god
I can see fishing being like like almost like meditating, you know
I could do that in the warmth of the home that is true with some headphones in
It's good for you Mike. I love nature have a look in the water drink some beer
It's very relaxing. Honestly, okay
This has been lost on people because like I was walking
Through like the fields and then there's like a bench and there was a person. There's nocules on it
there was a guy just sitting there he didn't like look at his phone he didn't do he just looked
into he just looked it was just like wow what a psychopath that guy's a freak
did you walk around like that i don't like that i was thinking wait a second that kind of
that seemed nice but i couldn't do it more than 20 seconds maybe the two of you spend like an hour
running and riding a bicycle in a gym going nowhere as fast as you can and you trash talk
fishing I was watching the new Vince McMahon documentary I would do that while fishing that
is true yeah but I have to go like to a place I have to carry on have you ever carried full
fishing gear it's such a pain in the ass it's not it totally is it's a box no Emma's Emma's
parents love fishing I've got to pick them up in my car that's a look all that stinky
damp awful crappy gear and put it in my car I hate everything about fishing I
hate fishing more than I hate horses and I really hate horses you hate horses
it detests why have you smelt a horse farm yeah it smells pretty bad now I
live with horse people oh it's every day okay it is a relentless attack on my
senses of manure and I have woken up in my bed lifted the quill and there's
been straw in there and I'm not Jesus this is not Bethlehem right and it's just
the worst it's the worst I've got my laundry out all nice and clean and
there's been hay in there that's been left in like emis socks or something
everything about horses is bad really yes it's expensive it's miserable you
have to go every day you know they're going clean up horse crap on Christmas
day oh wow right okay yeah that is crazy and then these idiots fishing and
I'm looking around going get a game.
You know how much renown you could have by now?
You bothered farming.
You could fish in WoW and get toys and rewards.
You could win a tournament. You can get a special rod.
You get a little title.
Stack some XP potions, level some characters.
All practical goals to be hit.
Okay, while they're at the start of the pool,
let's read out some donations.
$3.50 by Randy. They say these kids got me for what? For three? Oh, $3.50. Okay, I got
it now. I was very confused. Then Sven with a $100 donation and once again, what a fundraiser
to follow, a superb production to enjoy, a wonderful cast to be entertained by, and
of course another great cause to support.
Happy to do my part, Go Echo.
Thank you so much, Sven and all the other people that donated.
I really appreciate it.
And of course, Games for Love is an amazing cause as well.
Certainly is.
I hope some of you may have listened to the interview
that Jesse had yesterday with the head of Games for Love,
telling you all about the details
and everything that's going on.
But it's a wonderful cause to help out those children
whose lives are dramatically affected in so many ways
by disease and horrible things that takes away that precious childhood years. So anything we can do
to alleviate some of that and then bring them back to size. So good. I did want to pass on a chat.
During the interview Nathan talked about how we started the charity because his son was ill and
they were in and out of the hospital. He wanted to pass on a message to chat who he saw was
worried about his son. I forgot to mention in the interview our son beat his genetic condition
is doing great. He's a black belt, a state champion, has made a full recovery and living a
a healthy life. I know Chow is worried about that, his son is doing well and that's the
story that they're trying to replicate through Games for Love, right? Entertaining the kids,
providing instruction therapy and then helping them to transition back into regular life with
internships, scholarships, learning opportunities like that. So just a really good cause.
That is so amazing to hear. We do have another $10 donation by Ben and they say
Preach, why does it look like you spend all your off-time from casting and streaming on the
sandbats love to race so far as usual we love you niggura come on echo let's go
I haven't got time you do look very tense so I said I haven't got time I'm
actually ultra-tambler so I haven't been in the sun in quite some time natural
like 10 skin a little bit no no I can see myself very pale I look a bit
Peppa Pig
Not Daddy Pig
I do think you'd look kinda 10, I mean I agree
I can't believe you called you 10 when I'm actually a little bit 10
Yeah, you've got like olive skin
I actually went out a lot this summer and no one's commented on it
Well try harder
To be in the sun
Guess I have to be out even more
It doesn't count if you go out wearing a full like burger
Full coming up, heads and toe and all the things
I remember to wear sunscreen
I'm worried about it though.
I'm not a big sunscreen user.
Sun is real bad for your skin.
That is.
I like the sun a lot.
And I really do.
I love the sun.
I keep trying to propose an event
because we do preach con every year.
So although we're doing the next one in 2026,
I was like, you know what we could do?
We have that many people who come.
We could legitimately book a whole hotel
in like Spain or something.
Yeah.
And we could literally have it all to ourselves
with like all inclusive and stuff like that
and just be out there and the feedback.
I thought that sounded awesome
go to water parks together do all sorts of cool stuff and I was like this sounds
amazing yes and the feedback I got was why would we want to be in the sun and I
got that unironically from so many people waste no I hate this I would
love to and if they don't want to come I mean I mean you just going to Spain
We're going to have a great time.
Our travel show, mid food around the world is going to be so good.
It's going to be amazing.
We'll have this luxurious lifestyle and every afternoon we just have dinner and say it was pretty mid.
We have to drink cocktails out of these coconuts.
This is important.
Anyway, we are in the chase. Who was kidding?
Oh, can you stop commenting on the polls, please?
It never works out.
Can I just give you the moment? You said, oh, we have a good poll.
This is the third time this morning.
We still have the juice.
Well, to be fair, anyway, we're moving on as we do lose rice
and unfortunately don't, a rest available in 10 seconds
so they can get them back up as soon as that is available.
Bloodlust is running.
We do see the people are walking through the port.
It's still kush that has to get through here, but it's also Jinji. I think that is replacing
Canex and just the bow, but unfortunately the other side did go down
Yeah, he's not he's not going to that portal now
He's gonna just pump DPS to get in there, but yeah poor Canex there just a few one too many ticks
Of the purple juicy juice a little too much. I think he just needs more defensives there like I'm not because you are gonna
take a tick for sure as it drops and then bear for me kind of slow to get out
where's our cell this was they missed the DPS check on the ad okay even with the
bloodlust and only rice it was that's not exactly a huge DPS contribution though
well Kenix died right he was back up by then yeah maybe that was his cooldowns
or something I think he got open time to catch both the
and he's CDs unless he's sending them elsewhere the damage profile this is not
like a concern it's a shift of damage profile that they'll have to adjust
because we even saw them not break the shield earlier with all alive so they
pulled a lot of DPS off that is a cool down called special line it's using
can we switch to character's using in Karnar CA he's using CA and he popped it
after he was read so he's still got his damage up mm-hmm okay just just crap
I mean
True on that on that ad his damage was very very bad
Like did he use both CA convoke and
force of nature
You want to check is are we are we flaming his cast sequences here?
Oh, no, I just want to know if you had everything up, you know
Now let's your linemen's one time
Convoke did not go out with the other one force of nature
Yeah, he's Cade and force of nature, but he did not convoke interesting. That's very strange
Because both convoke and CA have a too many cool and he would line them up
Is there two ads up is you just try and delay so it make sure it goes into one
Because they're the other ads still alive to yank some that still happens with a convoke right?
Some yeah, they change that you're the targets or your target is getting all the stars
So just the other spells go random
But you would still use it for single target damage. You wouldn't like hold it
Does it still do silly things like thrash and all that?
Also puts rejuvenes and regrowth on random people if they're not topped. It's so funny.
Well, so the way it works is that there is a certain amount of spells that are going to be
damage spells and the other ones are utility spells. So it's not that you can get super
RNG and only cast utility spells for example.
Or kill Ryzen out of interest.
Yeah, Kaneks we saw what happened there, just a couple of extra tiki tics.
He got a little bit comboed, the Dispel into the rest, comboed him down.
Just needed a little bit more healing or a personal...
Look at the damage profile, incoming damage.
There's so much damage.
Yeah, I mean this is Canex's log here, you can see acid bolts followed by the gloom
dot which is 1.7 million.
The tick of that dart is 1.7 million, even with Barts giving it a like.
Yeah and he also had a regrowth up, there's a new thing where if you regrowth yourself you have an 8% damage reduction on yourself.
Oh really? That's kind of huge actually.
It's a hero talent.
8% is a lot.
8% is a lot.
A lot, I wouldn't say a lot.
That's a lot, 8% is pretty good.
It's nice, it's nice.
I mean, he did, so, well, killed Kanax off with standing in two void puddles at the same time, both the web and the shadow puddle.
Ah, there was a web.
Each of those, the shadow puddle void zone is 1.7 million and the web is 1 million damage.
So I guess what happened then is somebody actually positioned the wrong spot.
They dropped it in the wrong spot.
Yeah, because that's his spot to drop the puddle.
Yeah.
Yep.
Okay, interesting.
So I guess that's something I didn't think about.
They also have to remember where to get pulled.
Yeah, because the location you are when the rest goes off drops webs there.
And the weird thing about this strat is that they're using both the back of the room for the portals,
which you can't not do. The portals are where they are, and the front of the room for the adds,
which again, most of those you can't change because they're casters.
So it's hard to find a place to drop your rest webs as you get pulled.
And then the dot on players from disrupting the shadow portal does so much damage that it needs to be dispelled relatively quickly
So that gets dropped right there with everything else and it comes a little bit clustering back there
Yeah, and then he would also think, okay, some players have abilities to cancel the pool and then they can put their puddle more forward in a better position
But not everyone has that ability to just like cancel the pool
And you also to remember that some people have to save their movement abilities to do the portals right because
To get there to get through the puddles or over the puddles or whatever. So yeah
Yeah, I think what I saw is I think this is why comics has been switched off as well
It's because he was Farrell they gave him a lot of the crappier travel jobs to do
So we saw that like even in phase one with the getting you have to the overlap with the four
toxins and then you get the webs is they made him go really far away so the
other melee had an easier time and he had to like dive in really last second to
get there and then they were also doing that for the third platform which is what
you actually missed is they were having a dash all the way up to get that very
early platform and I think he said to me it's like I just you're asking a
lot you know it's it's not that I don't want to do it I can't do it
But like we're 50-50ing it and nothing here can be 50-50. That's why they're on a wine time
Wonderful little picture there drawn by Jordan's givers emotes for ourselves
We've got wine time
Oh, I didn't feel wine time, it's so nice
So we've got oh, I think this actually combo wambos. Yeah, you can sit them next to each other
I don't know
See if we can do this because Jordan's got an artistic plan. Look at that picture
What are you doing trying to sell nutrients to someone?
I have no professional pitches about this.
Some kind of bias going on because all the pictures that show up of Mike and me and Alex
are us eating something or some horrible face, something meanie, and then the girls always
like as professionals could possibly be heading for Wall Street.
World class dodger.
So currently, what Echo is doing, if you want a quick update when you join the stream
is right now, wine time.
There you go.
So you can just look at our little display here to get caught up quickly if you have
to go to work or something or check in on your lunch.
And exactly right now, the guys are doing wine time.
And thank you to Jordan for her wonderful artistry.
She's brought glitter.
Beautiful.
Yeah, I love that.
Where did she find glitter?
It's a thing she carries around.
From a kit.
She's got a little kit that she breaks out.
I've got this.
It's like the- cause we've-
Oh she's back!
We've had kids.
Who do this one?
Oh it's so pretty.
Oh my god look at that.
Yeah cause we're not into spare right now.
The guys are doing just fine so what we've actually got-
Oh no is it jam?
You jammed me up!
I got trolled!
Okay.
Oh no he was ruining the wine!
I can fix this.
I can't. It's bad.
The most, indeed. What we're actually doing right now is proper wine time.
There we go.
I love it.
What else do you want?
Chat, if you would like some more emote descriptions of the race, Jordan and Chris have got their artistic skills on
In order to represent the progress through the race, this has got to be a new thing that we cannot do.
And I want glitter on the lips.
Oh, you know, that would look great.
Oh, just wipes. I've got glittery fingers now.
It looks like I've been attacked by an elf.
Glitter is actually like the devil.
It's just looking at it, and all of it is everywhere.
I hate it. It's the worst.
Do you put it on your face?
Absolutely not.
No, you don't use like glitter eyeshadow and stuff like that and sparkles
Everywhere I hate it
I would only do it if I go like to like some special thing like a rave or whatever
And then I don't mind having to everywhere, but then at that point I definitely go to a location where I know that it can be
Completely like wiped off, you know, like I want the glitter to not touch anything. You don't want to wake up at the bottom of a glitter pillow
I've been there
Race are amazing, and you should go to one
They don't offer it, you know what I wanted to do last year a phone party. Oh
Right, that's nice. It was sick and everyone was like now I
Got shut down on all these ideas
I was like, you know what we could do on the second night because we had a another building that was a night club
And it had two areas to it that were about as big as here
So I was like in one room we'll have a phone party that'd be blasting neon lights lasers the whole thing
The whole party is really fun in the other one. We could do board games and stuff for people who don't like it
So we gauged
Everybody was like I'm never going in the phone party ever. I'm like it's just be me in there
Just looking like a snowman
Just having a really good time in there. So I got shot down on all these ideas. I want to go right now
I like this idea. Let's go. Yeah, we could just like
have only only like the famous like like twitch music playing but like in a
big beans banger yeah but in like a rave version you know
that'd be so good and he close sticks and he fluffy giant grits
follow this track oh my god it would be great rave shops were my favorite
clothing shops when I was a full goth they used to go there all the time
you know for like LED screenshots and things like that yeah I was wearing all
that in my university days bright purple hair oh yeah
It was clutch you needed to get it done. I went to a rave that's small like local rave where I lived like not not a huge thing
a couple months ago, and I put on this like fishnet
Like top and it was outside like you were actually following a track for a little while
It was it was great, and then the next day
I had a ten line where like on my upper body where it was like the fishnet
Yeah, that's criminal
Thankfully was only my shoulders and you know you can cover those
They're quite good in the UK with the, there was the Northern Techno Alliance, I think they're
still going, it was a few years ago since they've been, but they used to host, quote-a-quote
illegal raids, so they weren't sanctioned or anything, but they used to be, what you
get is a text message of the location, it was somewhere within like 40 miles, and they'd
find a forest or some clearing or something, and they would turn up with all the stuff
on the back of the giant trucks, and they would just park the trucks up and then
they would just get going for like two days.
the first one I went to I was like a bit nervous it was like so this is illegal
and like yeah but we went there and the police were there they were lining the
roads and I was like oh god we're gonna be in trouble and I was only like 18 or
something this is gonna be really bad they went no it's fine really yeah so we
drove through the police like and they literally were like it's harmless it's
fine incident you're not gonna disturb anybody because in the middle of God
knows nowhere and we're just here in case anything goes wrong but yeah go
happen. Yeah, so like this race that I went to, it's like very similar where they don't
announce when it's going to be like people know it's going to happen. Well, it's likely
it's going to happen, but they don't tell you when because if too many people show
up, then there are certain rules that they have to follow like there has to be security,
there has to be fences and whatnot. So they don't want to have any people come there.
So they announced a very late like a day before or so. And there's still a lot of people
to show up and they're still police and like, um, like the firefighters and what
not think it's something that's gonna happen but they just don't want it to be very big which is
nice I like some I like cosy raves yeah it's fun it's fun I'm sorry I'm out of it now
can't be doing that these days I'm too old I'll just be asleep in the grass yeah
not that I haven't done that before but still I don't want to do it now I want to get home to
my bed okay going home and I'm having a little sleep in my bed as I go back into a pool they
They have already had an early death, I think it was hopeful, I'm not sure.
But the combat res is used for the guys, again, a little bit of wine time in between.
They're reassigned to the portals now to make it easier, obviously with Cannex moving
from Feral back to Balanced, no doubts, as said earlier, in readiness for all those
big spread out giant dangly spiders that are going to be present in Phase 3.
Their goal right now is actually just to have more of a mess around in Phase 3
before they tighten up and get rid of the bloodlust on the platforms because
they know they won't be able to use that so steady stream of progress they have a clear
objective in mind of what they want to achieve over the next few hours but this is a fight
that is looking more and more suspect by the minutes and I'm somewhat sticking with what
I said about five six days ago is I'm pretty confident Buzzard has done the math. I don't
think we're going to see a magnet. Yeah and here's the thing right I think if this
This was not intended, like if they're really far off, they would have nerfed it by now,
because they've seen what happened and how far they got and how hard the bossage is and
they know when the end rage is as well, right?
So they would have adjusted the bossage P by now if they think that it's not doable.
And that makes me believe that something happens, like Jesse said earlier, with that
boss takes more damage or some some extra phase some special phase where the boss I don't know
where the enrage resetter is different or something has to happen for the boss's hp to be
I don't know my personal feeling is I think the raid boss designers are having the best time with
this raid they've really been able to come up this is a really slow shield from echo though
This is a little spooky either at 23% and space is a premium right now for them. It's 14%
There's the yank cast, but they're very low on space got a weave those wide people globules
Oh, that was so close
That was pretty spooky now. It was pretty but we're good. We're off and we're on our way
But yeah, I think the the raid boss designers are really having fun at seeing how far they can push these players
Like it's got to be a challenge for them internally is like how far can we go with this and see what they can do and you're right?
I would say this though if anybody from Blizzard is watching Echo's progress right now if you are going to nerf this boss
I beg of you if it's coming
Give a good heads up to the teams of when it is going to happen
And what you are going to do because the last thing we want is something like that happened with a near Dressil
Is it just suddenly happens in the middle of a poll?
Echo is going to bed. There's no planning. Liquid doesn't know when it's happening either. We had that with like Razageth
You know what I mean? They just woke up and it's like, okay, they didn't have to fight. Give a heads up
the heads up
Like obviously I would love to have a hat up
But I do think that Blizzard usually like whenever they're thinking about nerfs. They are thinking about very strongly and
They like if they're in the fence of a nerf then maybe they shouldn't say it
You know like if they're like, maybe
I think when it commits it, if they decide, okay, we are going to do it in like a good moment.
Anyway, we are on a good pull, let's talk about that later as we have a good pull going on here.
We do have to enter the portal before it goes.
Oh, no! Chris didn't quite manage this.
I think there was actually a BOP missing, like that.
I think BOP prevents the pull. Is this true, Jesse?
The BOP was already sent on Kanax.
Oh, okay, so did they intend that to happen?
I think so.
So does that mean that Kush doesn't get the buff anymore?
No, I think they're sending on a canyx instead, but I know that I saw it on a canyx that pull, I have to assume it was on purpose, it's hard to buff someone and it was right before he went in. That's true, that's true.
So maybe Kush is all supposed to get buffed because I've seen him get buffed before on this portal.
So maybe he was missing, Chris didn't notice that it was not going to happen and then he
didn't manage to get into a portal.
Yeah, I could do it.
Obviously he was not going to be able to make that with the dragon.
Oh come on, how is that cut?
Yeah, that was you, that.
To be fair, I got switched talking about the fight.
That's for you, I think.
Yeah, it could be true.
Well, to be fair, they are distracting from the production course that they did earlier
I did say I'm gonna bring you back in because I could try it. It was definitely gonna make it into phase three
That's what they said. It is what they said
They should have
Absolutely should have done that
It was very close what they're getting better about us obviously some changes switch things around like you just saw that
Could there was no real way of push being able to do that
So something needs to change which means more wine time
Can't find any can't find any patterns right now with the box or sending them on different players every single pole
So maybe it's a call thing currently. Yeah, I need a little bit of help
I'm not gonna make it so that's all about my weight see where it goes. They can actually see box happening now
Definitely discussing the box. Yeah, who should got what where?
Perhaps it was even on some sort of macro
You never know when they've made some sort of pre-assignment is like they just have Bob on a macro to
Send it just lands on the wrong person because they have the things changed
While we wait for them to figure out the bobs and the macros and what not, I'm going to read some more donations as more have been coming in, one by Hey and they donate $5.05 and to say, speaking of corn, what do you call a corn in school?
I don't know.
It is a unicorn.
Why?
I also don't know.
Why?
Dominic.
with the ten dollars they say with my cating horses you should try horse meat while spilling cologne
oh is there a thing in cologne horse meat? uh you can get horse meat in a lot of places
yeah you can get it but i didn't know it's like a cologne thing just worldwide as far as i know
well anywhere that has horses yeah all right uh then we have a ten dollar nation by vol shire
and they say love freaches long-distance relationship with the sun i love the sun
just no horses fishing foreign food or general going out so you just stay in so I
think he is saying that's you like I love the Sun just no horses fishing foreign
food or general going out I'm out all the time it is a little weird to say you
love the Sun and then live in Manchester I want to move it is one of the things
I would like to change to be in a more sunny climate for sure we have $5 by
like sick charts and they say awesome casting but bring back perfected to the couch now.
How's your role he's doing?
To be fair like he can't cast all day right so maybe he's gonna join again in the evening
you know maybe he's having some gym session or just watching the players.
I think that's going to go to the gym.
He does?
The one downstairs?
No way.
He just wakes up later.
Since he's not playing he's sleeping in and then he goes gym in the like mid-morning
Plays the ping-pong after that and then may come up in the afternoon, but he's not going to be up and around right now
It's a hard life, isn't it hard life? Yeah, it's tough. It's tough
The other day he was working out at the gym same time I was really yeah, I've never seen him once
I got up pretty early so I don't think perfect. So is it is degenerate the time when you're running at six in the morning
Perfecto is maybe gone to bed by then
Well, he's not here. I know that
Maybe he's waiting for the call. He is awake, ready to come in should the moment come
Phase three will dictate whether perfecto actually shows his appearance once more as I've deployed your bosses
But of course with kush getting both the mythic daggers
That's it. Yeah
Interesting when I hold it together. I didn't know that either. I wanted to ask but then I forgot about the question
I see we're talking about other stuff, but two rogues on tour
That's a journey.
It is a very interesting one.
I would have loved to listen to some of these conversations
that we're having.
And we do have another $10 donation by Anonymous.
No comment, thank you very much.
And we have $100 by Bregan.
And they say, I had no interest in the race,
but I had quite a few love out loud moments
listening to you all these past few days.
So here's some money for the kids.
Also, can you call Mike a clown?
Thank you.
You are a clown.
Thanks for the sound bite, appreciate it.
I'm sure I won't hear that again.
Let's put that in the big B's banger.
Hahaha.
They should be before to drop.
Yeah, right before to drop.
You are a clown.
Can you all stop saying that for the love of God?
You don't know what you're doing to me right now.
I beg of you for saying that.
Chris, you're apparently in the back room.
Oh no, no longer does Chris need to do that.
This is on my never mind.
I will thank you not to say things.
The chat requests of you, I beg you please, please don't do that, but it is wine
time here double checking where they're going with these setups got to be a
really good spooch when they're going some methodical yeah yeah it's weird they
don't do this on literally any other Boston no matter how hard it is that they
play this way where they're really considering it and it's been a big I'd
be interested to see if the feedback from the players this race is we took a
little too much downtime it was something they were working on for years
is that they were like hey this is really boring for a lot of us like
perfecto point out yesterday is like when Roger start speaking that's
when the secret lap Titan goes into full recline mode.
But they're all locked in right now,
but they have taken a lot of these mini breaks
to discuss what's going on.
But another part of this is this fight is so hard.
Yeah, and I mean, obviously we've been in phase three
and we've seen it a lot,
but we certainly are still progressing
or working on the consistency of phase two, right?
Phase two is definitely causing a lot of the wipes
that we have.
And I think optimizing stuff in phase two
is very valuable and I think that's what they're discussing so much because they get there,
they wipe to something.
And we've seen lots of changes in Phase 2 as well.
First of all, Kha'Nix is playing Munkin now, which requires some changes with the portals
because of course he had a portal assigned.
He missed it twice as a Munkin, it's like, okay maybe this doesn't work with Munkin,
it worked with Feral, but Munkin maybe not anymore.
Then he switched with Jinji, his portal because Jinji of course being much more
mobile with those blinks coming in and then we saw different kinds of bobs being
used so they can make the portals and yeah all of these changes of course
require tries and optimization different week hours so yeah I think that is what
they're working on as we have Jordan handing us
I'm so excited what is it what is it this time so we're not gonna be first
You are a clown!
We got it!
We are joined by the one and only Blalatath!
It is so cute!
We're not holding right now, now they're pulling.
So we'll have Blalatath wine time.
I love it!
No purple filler.
Blalatath wine time in a chat right now please.
A little Blalatath wine time.
The whole team now seems to have been upgrading their artistic tendencies to see what they can get done and
it's definitely helping to add the current mood here in Cologne with what is happening with the players.
A lot of smiles, a lot more dialed in, they've been all weak.
How does it feel? I don't think any of us have really hit this point.
Maybe a little bit with Killjaiden for you. Did you do the program Killjaiden?
Yeah. The world first one? No. I was in future. Oh, yeah. Don't look at me like that. Probably worse,
more despair than any other yield probably. It's just it's an odd feeling for the raiders to be
progging a fight working hard. Not that they're like down to ordinary, because obviously we kind
of suspect something weird is coming. Um, for a fight that kind of we don't, we know we can't
quite get the end probably but we never say never but you still got to take
each challenge as it goes right you've got to still overcome so many challenges
but you're also looking at a fight that's like we don't know this doesn't seem to
add up based on what we know. They've been in that position before right it was
it was commonly thought on slavannas that it was not possible to get to 50
percent week one then you learned that it was actually 45 percent it was
pretty widely thought that was impossible to achieve they always find
more damage and since they've been in this position before they're not going to sit here
thinking this is a waste of time. It's not a waste of time because who knows what happens
at 20% or who knows what kind of damage you may find or if it's not possible right now
and Blizzard is going to send a tuning adjustment then they want to be in a position that
after that tuning adjustment they're well practiced and able to get there and take
advantage of it. Why do we think 20% and not 30%?
Okay, it could be. All I know is that the border of what's probably possible to achieve with DPS right now is 20%.
I see. That's why I say 20%. Anything under 20%, I don't think it's happening this week.
30% could, 20% could. Either of those would be fine.
Yeah, I see. So that lines up with the enrage that we do know exists.
Yeah. Okay, I see. So let's, we're going to be sat here, and this is going to be a bit like Jailer actually, where it was like,
Alright, something probably is gonna happen here and it didn't and then the next one no nothing here
We actually have that with Sarkarath as well as like so
Despite it's too easy, right? So something's gonna happen somewhere. No, no, maybe it's 10% no
nope
Nothing happened. We had all these theories. Oh, that's he going down at the worst possible time
To lose him there
I think he got ticked over by about 1% looking at that damage value that went in on Zaxi there
But that is a healer down and the bomb is about to go off onto these raiders and do absolutely horrendous damage
Lovely blink by hopeful to move through the boss shield is down
But this means we're not going to see Zaxi back on his feet until platform 2 the hardest of these platforms
And that means that somebody is solo healing an entire side, which has been done before
But it's not nice
That this spell causing both canycks and clicks to die
Very unfortunate. Of course, I can continue but it looks like they are jumping off. Yeah, rising one down two
So two healers is not worth continuing. They've pulled a lot of resources off that shield break
It feels that way. I know in preparation for they have
They're pulling a huge amount off that shield break because it got it somewhat reliably down and they're milking it into the last half second of the cast
I do have some
Interesting analysis I can put up on the screen for you. I would love to see that. Yeah, this is what's waiting for them
I feel like he's trolling
She's on top. Yeah, that looks pretty damn good. So even though they may be sending the dinner buff a lunch buff
We'll see what besides yeah, the ready check is going out though
But then they this is why Julia gets annoyed. Yeah, she was like I made it exactly on time as you can see
Yes, it's like three minutes after the official lunchtime. It's fresh. It's hot. It's beautiful
Then you guys show up late and then I see I'll hear you guys saying what's going cold. Yeah, like well if you just
He came on time
Of course, you could warm it up like in a microwave, but a salad with chicken on top like you can't warm up the salad
Take off the chicken and yeah, so well, it's on them. Should we go?
you would stop cursing each
pull.
Nothing to do with us. We're just calling what we see. If it's a great pull, we'll tell you. If it scuffs immediately after, that's
because the fight's hard and it's not our fault. We're not getting on the floor. They're telling you that now. That is not happening.
But they're going to give it another go before lunch. This is likely the last pull before lunch. Let's see if who is going to tank the
pull so we can go full-on earlier, or if they're going to give it the full on go. Because we had that weird hour last night, didn't we? Do you
the full on go because we had that weird hour last night didn't we? Do you know that last hour where
they just didn't know things? Yeah absolutely nothing yeah it was so weird too because now there's
some changes clearly to phase two and it makes sense that they would wipe there a lot but they
wiped a lot in phase one after their very best pool where they overtook Liquid yesterday and
just had like a whole hour of phase one wipes which was very strange and they really it seemed
seemed like they didn't get anywhere because they were probably discussing phase 3, but
yeah today obviously going a lot better, didn't get into phase 3 with everyone alive, like
it was, didn't have such a good pull, but of course again they're trying to maximize
phase 1 and phase 2 and really work on their efficiency there so they can go back to phase
3 and proc with a good comp and a perfect lineup, which is very very difficult.
I will say that their consistency today has been extremely good in terms of getting 2P2
with only 4 of 12 pulls not getting there, but they're still struggling to keep that
clean.
Which is why I don't think they're going to move the lust any time soon.
Right now the most important thing for progression is to consistently get into P3.
So getting through P2 consistently is the most important thing in order to continue progressing
and that means that lust is going to stay there for quite a while.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
So what you're seeing is a very common process that happens at these extremely
hard fights are certainly the end is they will change things in P1 and any other
earlier part of the fight to make it considerably harder on themselves and get
absolutely squeeze this thing for everything that's possible with the
current composition so if they will make it easy enough to get through phase one
when they first get here right so we need to see some P2 then they'll do the
same thing they'll make P2 easier and then we get to where we were yesterday
which is like use all these easiest strategies to get to P3 see what the
situation is way to find out things like there's four ads and there's five ads
Then what they do good these good go back and they re-evaluate phase one and like okay
We need as much out of this as we possibly can and the only way we can do that is to actually make it harder on ourselves
Then because what we want is to move a bunch of things that we were using in P1 to the platforms
Things like that is very steady analysis of each 10 second period of the fight
In order to use the bare minimum to get through it so we can send it elsewhere
Not to mention that damage you do to this shield is quote-unquote wasted damage
Obviously damage you do in phase one to the boss matters as well
One question actually because I think I'm not gonna throw somebody under the bus
Somebody told me that phase one actually gets triggered at 65%
That is incorrect, right? It's time-based
Yes, okay, so it is time-based so that person if they're listening
I don't know who told you that, but they want to slap.
That is not the case.
So you can milk damage with it.
So you can milk damage with it as well.
But obviously the damage you have to do to the shield is just nothing.
You just have to make sure you get through the shield.
Unfortunately we do lose mirrors and clicks.
Clicks not having unavailable means that clicks are going to stay dead for a minute or so
once they're in phase 2 on the second platform.
But they can go without clicks for a little while.
not having any major jobs or other than doing damage of course so we'll see if they can do it
as they're a little bit slow on the damage on these adds here but as long as they can get them
done before the shadow gate cast goes through oh that was actually kind of close but they managed
yeah they are milking everything so what they're actually utilizing that shield for now even though
it is incredibly terrifying is they're actually letting it play out with the least amount of
of DPS cooldowns required and also letting everybody else's cooldowns redo.
Another portal missed, something not quite right with the portal situation here, but that's
what they're doing is they're actually holding, killing the portal at this point.
As long as they don't get the fourth drag-in, which is the murder one, let's go hit everybody
for like seven million a piece, they could stay with that shield for quite a while.
The healers have to do three regardless, so it's not more stressful.
The healers particularly, it's more a case of like, let's just relax and allow the
clock to tick on our cooldowns so we can have them back and ready to go. It's all about
preparation for the next phase. So even though the drag in on that intermission is terrifying,
you need to abuse it. You need to use it for as much as you can, similar to what we did
on the Silken Court, which is like, yeah, we can break the shield, but in fact, if
we just wait a little bit and make sure we don't get the next damage burst, which
put out the load of those moats all over the floor, is that we can get some more
cooldowns ready for the next phase and then be able to be more efficient and more effective there so
we'll see if they're gonna send the lunch both not everybody is getting the res they're hanging out
mirrors is giving the old type there it is now it's just 28 minutes what's 28 minutes what is that
yeah that is a very exact timer 28 minutes if you can eat lunch in 30 minutes you can eat lunch in 28
you're cutting back under sleep they're cutting back on the lunchtime it's time to kill the
We're going to skim two minutes off every break time from now on and every day it will reduce 26 to dinner.
They just lost 10 minutes off the break.
Well, I mean, if you can eat dinner in 28 minutes, you can also eat in 20.
I just want to sit back down, brain time's over in 20 seconds to sit back down.
But we're going to join them. We're going to have some chicken salad, get refreshed, get good.
Is that you saying goodbye?
Yes.
Oh.
All right.
I'll see you guys tomorrow again.
Okay.
But me and Mr. Alex, FatBoss Alex will be joining us on the couch and no doubt Jesse's gonna be floating around as Echo loves the game's making good progress and see what the hell is happening.
So we'll be back with you in approximately 20 minutes apparently, about 28, something like that. So we'll see you soon guys.
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Oh good.
I am excited as hell.
Like that dinner was an eye-opening experience.
It was the conversations that will be had amongst the players were interesting to say the least.
Everybody has a different idea of what the hell is happening here.
The general consensus though, it's just really effing hard, we just have to get it to zero.
But then it was like, Mires is on my team, he went, dudes, I've had an idea and I'm
like, uh-huh.
And he goes, door boss, and I'm like, yes, that's what I'm saying, dude, we cursed him.
He's come in for a few Final Fantasy bosses.
That's all it takes for him to just be on board with all of these door boss things.
We've been talking about it as well. Hold on. I'm going to move my mic.
There we go.
We've been talking about all of these different potential ideas,
and this was is so perfectly placed within the raid.
And within the story even, to have this cool little additional thing,
don't get me wrong, and we shouldn't be disappointed if there isn't one,
because we've been talking about a mythic only phase since forever.
We have pretty much every single race we talk about a mythic only phase.
I think the only race we've ever done in person for Echo being the jailer that actually had a methic only face
So it'll be awesome if they were to be able to bring it back in it would certainly put this expansion back on the map in terms of
Look at all this cool stuff that's here
But we will see whether or not that is the case because they have indeed had their lunch a little bit of a break
Yes, potato salad with a chocolate brownie. It was very nice. I didn't know what we were eating
I was eating it just to eat it. It was tasty and then I'm delish
What are we eating at Mira's room? That is the question.
That's a good question.
Don't know. We think it's this.
We think it's that.
Julius sat there going, I will make you all healthy.
I swear.
The food here has been fantastic.
Oh, so, so nice.
Shout out to Julia.
Yeah, she was amazing.
We need to get something special, I think,
when this is over, because she's losing her mind.
The biggest gift that we could give her is by leaving quickly.
I think they think that's the name of the room.
They're wrong.
All I want is for you to go.
But now she's into it. They gave her a get duck hoodie. I was talking to her as well.
I was like, you gotta get duck hoodie. She's like, okay, I'd never heard of World of Warcraft before this.
Now I'm fully into it. So we get what's going on.
And now I'm fully on board with what is happening in this race to all first, which is a story unto itself.
Oh, it really is.
Yeah, Echo not having yet picked up a single boss kill before Liquid.
But of course we are looking at the only one that matters right here.
And mysteries abound. And you guys can put your speculation out there.
Is this just incredibly hard and they do need to get the boss to zero percent?
Is there something lurking at 30 or 20 percent?
Is there something that's going to change and mix it up?
Or is this just Blizzard who throughout this raid have been really good at nailing
down the exact math needed of what the guys are capable of?
And they met every single challenge with very little adjustments from Blizzard.
Really minor touches here and there.
Who knows what awaits us as this journey goes on.
But Echo has so many steps to go through today, including obviously, as you see now,
they've pulled a lot of resources off these things like shields and stuff like that in preparation for what needs to happen next.
And it has caused them a few problems, which it's always going to do.
But they're working through it steadily, very regularly hitting those platforms.
But still working on that, working on the platforms themselves.
And we actually saw earlier out, a really weird situation occurs that the webs,
which ordinarily do cancel when you're moving between them.
If you do it at the wrong time, that does not happen.
Yeah, I did see that.
It was a little bit sad.
Also, it's actually going down there.
I'm not sure we're going to have reds for a mirrors.
Obviously, taking a little quick way out, wise, definitely wise,
just to quickly do a reset here.
But yes, I think they were a little late in building the bridge
from looking at it from the outside.
I took a couple of looks at it from my perspective.
That bridge could have been built a little bit quicker.
She's got to click the pile onto the other side.
I think there was just a tiny bit too late,
so it didn't cancel the car.
unfortunately. Yeah it seems like it needs to be a very specific little window that it can happen
because it has prepared for this by saying oh you built the bridge cool we'll cancel the web but
if you do it at the exact wrong time your knowledge quite it took like frames oh like ticks however
you want to say like a very very short period of time where they managed to exactly hit it so
that it didn't go off at the right time but one thing I would say is that you're entirely right
in terms of the tuning thus far especially for the top end obviously I'd say for the rest of the
I hope you like doing 4 out of 8.
About Brutewisser obviously being a lot more practical this week.
But for the race to it, they've managed to hit the numbers really, really well.
Even Cavesa, I wasn't a fan of exactly how that was tuned, but it was killable.
So that's the most important thing.
They haven't done any changes to this boss's health pool just yet, as far as I'm aware.
It's not exactly like we're during the week as well.
So it's during Blizzard's work week, so it's not exactly like they're over the weekend
So it's not exactly like they're over the weekend or there's like a holiday going on at the time or anything like that
They they're watching they know what the guilds are capable of and we have still got so much work
In front of us that we can do you know we can make it so our phase one is more
Become sure we can squeeze a little bit more damage on phase one phase two needs to be cleaned up a lot for echo
It's about getting consistent phase threes once we've unlocked the phase two sort of problem that we're having right now
It's a step-by-step because there's so much happening. There's that they need to be
Everybody needs to be fully in tune and locked. It's we only saw in the last three poles
They changed who was going through the portals, which then led to some confusion some people are getting bops
Some aren't sometimes it happens during the web. Sometimes it doesn't there's a little bit of randomness there
That doesn't allow them to pre-design absolutely every aspect in the place
I've got to adapt on the fly listening to call out some make some
Adjustments to make it happen which we haven't seen echo do just yet. Yeah
I think they've probably changed some things in phase two such as they're trying to move lost from it as well
Which is wise they want to try and make it so they have as many resources as possible now that we've seen the things that are problematic in phase three
We might not want to use two-minute cooldowns on that last platform because they won't be up in time for the full set of ads with all of the
Different what's the little webbing things that grab onto people called it shackles?
Which is obviously a huge pain point and then of course you got the five ads after that
It's going to be mental. They've got to make sure they have the correct resources for it. So instead of seeing phase 2 as the prog point
It's now the refinement point
I'm pretty sure if they wanted to send less than every single one of their CDs during phase 2 would have seen many more phase 3s today
But yeah, we need to be able to see phase 3 with the correct, you know tools for the job
So that's what we're looking at improving today and at the moment. So incredibly exciting stuff
I feel I did call that this boss would die today. I'm
Yeah, that in all fairness. I made that call
like in Roque week. So it's maybe a little bit off but I think this should be some really
really exciting times ahead of us today. The next six hours or so I think could be an amazing
turning point for Echo in this race, making sure that not only do they catch up substantially
but maybe even pull ahead of Liquid in quite a meaningful way. So they certainly got the
potential of doing it. All it comes down to is the execution. Fingers crossed so they can
get it done. Yeah I mean that's exactly what we saw yesterday is once the like you said the magic all
I know it's to say that the key is all clicked into place for echo an astronomical jump in
performance for the rest of them including adapting to the changes that were happening on the fly
on the fly they did extremely well burning down those two and three sets of ads they were able
to do that very efficiently obviously they weren't exactly focused on killing the boss they
didn't care there was more about like clear these ads clear these ads let's see what happens
What happens next? Yeah, our time is in place because we actually saw for the first time a long time
is the boss mods stopped working. They were that deep into the fight.
We actually have no idea what happens next. No idea whatsoever as Fraggo just goes...
Chingy instantly pinged.
They pinged all the time now. It's some habit that they've learned.
It's been toxic. I don't know if it's been toxic or to help with combat reses.
Yeah, the camera is just touching it.
It touches it is just a nice side effect.
It's a nice side effect, yeah.
Loser!
It's like sparring question mark pings when someone
in some league just don't, just going to let them know
what the hell is going on there.
I'm not being toxic, I'm trying to help.
Yeah, I know.
There's someone who's missing from your lane.
It is you that is missing from your lane.
I mean, honestly, have you tried not being missing
from your lane?
Oh, man.
Make an attempt on that, but they're
moving through phase one again.
They want everything ready for the platforms.
That has been the pain point this morning.
After all their adjustments and they're still swapping things.
It's only like three or four pulls ago.
They changed assignments on the platforms.
Poor Canex, of course, going back from Ferrell.
The only thing he's not played is Resto Druid.
That's literally it.
He has played everything else in the last three fights
alone for Echo.
He has had to gear so much stuff,
but back onto balance, which makes way more sense
when they do get deeper into phase three.
So let's drop the Ferrell down.
We'll use it.
It's going to be a wipe here for the guys.
Yeah, I can imagine Balanced being quite good in that last phase with all of the adds being spread out,
Starfall doing a lot of work, being able to cleave like the four and eventually five adds in the middle of the rune
whilst also dealing with the shackles whilst also dealing with the little spiders that are crawling across the rune,
let alone dealing damage to the boss.
And of course the little adds that spawn from infest.
Yeah, exactly.
There's a lot going on.
So being able to have a boomkin there, you know, it would be nice.
It's more, you've got to kind of get them to that point.
Although they might be very good on certain platforms
for CDs, like that second platform being consistently
one of the most difficult ones.
First platform, yeah, not so bad.
Second platform, chaotic as hell on third platform.
It's more just keep your nerves together.
You know, you're only fighting that one mob.
You just got to get them down,
make sure we're dealing with the portal correctly
so we can just keep everything nice and calm
and under control before we can transition
to the boss's final arena.
Or we assume to be the final arena.
Don't, don't man.
It could be.
We know Liquid did manage to get through platform 2 without the bloodlust.
Yep.
It should be probably about why that is such a pain point.
Not only is there an enormous absorb shield on the add up there,
and if it gets its cast up, you can interrupt it while it's absorbing.
It just annihilates you, kills you.
But at the same time, you've got people going through the portals
and then leaving these area denial pools.
These portals, of course, are this debuff that you get
when you come through that portal.
Needs to be dispelled or it will time out itself naturally,
but what it does is raid wide massive damage.
like three to four million damage per wave. You have two of them going off and so they have to
stagger them so they can dispel one heal the raid a little bit dispel the other and then hopefully
not die hold on to your butts at the same time there are webs dragging you off you know to add
more insult to injury there along with multiple other ads that are up at the same time adding
their damage to the equation which leads to an ultra deadly scenario which is exactly why
They are going out of their way to bloodlust it burn through it as fast as humanly possible
So they just don't have to deal with the relentless
Risk of death that exists up there, but they do also know it's not going to be that way in the end for now
Though, I think they've got some phase three stuff. They want to play with they want to dial in yes
Everything in phase one to make sure this is right because every time they wipe
It's not a case if you goofed up all the time. It's like, okay if this is happening to the same guy over and over again
something wrong okay let's fix that because when we get deep into this fight we can not afford too
many phase one wipes the same as razageth approach actually is like we need to lock in phase one
so we can actually just effectively work on the remainder of the fight uh so we'll see how echo
get on here in the next little while as they're moving through this now as alex rightly pointed out
though this looks like a crazy damage check phase one damage does bleed over so it does it might come
back to okay we need to reevaluate phase one uh to squeeze i don't think they're squeezing
20%
Well, they could do if maybe they just bring like five more members to the radio something maybe we got that
Have you tried that? That's a secret strat. Have you tried 30 man mythic? Yes, it would make this a little
I don't know how much easier it'll make it. Honestly. There's a lot of things that are real rough here
That's a Kojima play as well. It's like well actually
But we did change it so you could bring more
Just for this one boss as soon as you start the encounter you can drag more people in
Canyx there taking a breathing a sigh of relief as he has to do an emergency sighs that their nice memes not managed to pulling off
After this little food buff, but echo so nice memes did go down the combat res has been used as we are coming towards the end
This we expect another sort of like eight percent to be knocked off the boss
But the dangerous moment is about to happen. It really is yes
Yes, you're gonna be getting four toxins all at once
You're gonna have to be placing out at the same time just after that you're gonna be getting roots
and those routes obviously leave these webs on the ground so you're going to see them placing out these four toxins in a specific formation.
Whilst those players quickly make their way back over to the group to spawn the goo on the ground,
then everyone needs to move further along, get ready for these webblades which have been the number one killer of Echo this entire time.
As you can see, though, unfortunately getting clipped, they're so easy to do, a very, very difficult mechanic in order to counter,
but they were able to pop all of their individual little trampolines one by one,
and get through five stacks on the group, it's going to hit them pretty hard though,
But they were able to survive it. They're going to keep going even with Zeruo down.
We haven't got Reds for him in about a minute and a half. Just over a minute and a half.
Reds are mid-platform too.
Yeah, so it still might be worth doing. You can use Bloodlust at another point.
We do still need to get Reps in Phase 2.
Oh, Narko just taking a wide Pipo, gobbling right to the side of the face there.
Yeah.
Creeping out of the boss. Now there's somebody down on both, one each on either side.
Again, they can push on here. It's fine, but he's looking a little ropey now.
Yeah, I think it's time to call it there like the damage check is already quite tight because they're not using blood loss at this point
So losing two of your DPS before this third at yankin is going to be very very difficult to deal with so
Unfortunate for this particular pool, but it just goes to show that as much as they've had they've a lot of pools in phase
Well bonk, there we go. Yeah, tons of pools in phase one, but we're still losing people to the
Webblades, you know the big like you would think that's dangerous because it's like such an obvious visual mechanic
In fact, the visual is a little misleading with it.
Yeah, it can be.
Yeah, it's one of those things that you're like,
just don't stand in it, lol.
But if you look at the actual nature of the floor,
sometimes we'll show you a POV and it kind of looks free.
Then you cut to somebody else's POV
and it is actual just like running
across an exploding beach.
It's so bad.
They have literal pixels to stand in.
We've seen it on a few occasions
and it's a little bit R&G of whether we get that POV.
They are trying to bait those.
They obviously spawn from players
and shoot out in that star-like pattern.
So they spread out as much as possible
So there shouldn't be much overlap, but somebody always gets stuck in a horrible scenario.
Yeah, and they just need to play out like they just have to try and outplay it.
Honestly, there's only so much you can do to make it easy.
But getting this sort of consistency and getting rid of these phase one mistakes is going to
will pay off in the long term.
They really need to like kind of nail down the issues that they're having in this phase one,
because if we're going to have only a 30% success rate in phase one,
then well, I hope you're not busy on Halloween, Mike.
As am I so my Halloween is already booked. Sorry. Yeah, so it's kind of yeah
They really do need to nail that down, but it's something that they are able to do
I'm sure you've done it in your guilds if you've raided before as well
That is sometimes you just get back into that flow state and everything starts going right something clicks and it was like right
Okay, we're all good
It becomes a surprise when you wipe in phase one rather than the norm
Yeah, and they just need to get over that hump and they need to do that for phase two as well liquid work
astonishingly consistent getting into phase 2 yesterday. I think I heard it was over 20 of
their pools made it into phase 3 yesterday with everyone alive. So these are not only just,
you know, good pools, they're excellent pools. If Echo don't get those, they're going to struggle
to get beyond this 47% mark that they find themselves at. Well, they went to bed even,
so a lot of pools from Echo last night, they were basically neck and neck. They both had exactly
47.8%. What's that? It's a tie. I've never seen that before. That's awesome. Sorry, that's
correct. It's fun. 47.8% on both of them when Echo went to bed. And I think the difference
in pools was like three. So huge amount of pools came in for the liquid yesterday to
pummel this. And this is where it needs reps over and over and over again. Make this
chaos normal. Everything you've seen before, every variation. It was only like three
three poles ago after the 160 echoes done.
He's like, oh, we can actually spawn the webs on the bridge.
Huh, we didn't expect that.
As Robin went flying off the platform,
but now you can see here in this melee POV,
not too bad this time for the melee,
but you can see Sol got hit.
So it's always somebody somewhere
that this overlap does hurt
with all these things going on.
Now you can see the two venom novas going off,
knocking them, one person,
each group has to detonate those
as the group waits to be knocked in the proper direction.
There's a wide people coming through.
There you go.
Sorry coming. You got to watch out for those creepers. They're aiming right at me as laughing because he knew it was coming as well
We have had a few deaths where especially when they're passing through the boss because you look at the one there far side
You see how thin they are you kind of forget that they get larger and larger prefer that they travel taking up more space
Yesterday, I think we were watching a Jinjipov way. It was so unfortunate. It was like he was pixels within it was so sad
But so far so good interesting
Did you hear perfecto saying that one of the biggest issues the race has run into this way is the meteors dropping from the majors?
In very specific scenarios, it causes you to not see certain mechanics
Oh, for goodness sake. Yeah, they've all been complaining
And they've all been using graphical settings to get rid of these meteors from the majors because it was causing so many problems
Especially on brood twister that they're like we just can't see your stupid meteors are in the way
Of what we're trying to do. It is unfortunate when that kind of stuff happens. I do remember beforehand that I can search
rates I can't remember exactly which ones they were but you almost had graphical settings per
boss to make it so that it's as readable as possible. I expected the arachnophobia mode to
become more into it. Obviously being used to quite nice effect in the brew twist to fight to make
the spiders a little bit less in your face, a little bit easier to see but most of the boss
models or I think all of the boss models are actually affected by the arachnophobia mode
because I thought you you know of Antrector's spider you can see so much easier because he hasn't
I have not. I still don't know what's happened in the story, but the thing is, is it truly
worth taking the time?
Really good. They've taken a lot of care and a lot of time with the story so far,
And the weaver of course, roommates probably, with the previous queen of the Nerobean Empire.
Roommates?
Yeah, like a reen and gyre of roommates.
Oh, I see.
There's a lot of coffee biscuits going on, pal.
Is that a play?
Yeah, a lot of coffee biscuits.
They managed to get into the intermission of everyone alive so far, but these yanks
are very painful.
Wow.
Yeah, that's the weakest one, and it still looks like a bomb going off in the
entire race.
I guess we do have the dots going on still at that point as well, so the combined
damage making it quite difficult for everyone to be topped with this one yes
the small bits of ticking damage from the fact that you've got that little
circle around you but hopefully it's a little bit more easily more easily
addressed so to speak but there we go I love this halo build that is a part of
Holy Priest now excellent to see it's like they hold DPS here so they have been
holding damage a little bit because they don't technically need to break this
until the act. No, they're just going to push through. But this is very, very clean from
Echo right now, but we do know even this part, and if you've done Novel and Heroic,
this part is so stupidly free, but you will see people just absolutely hammered with these
little fell bolts that go out and just kill the need. You can see the dot on the raid
and then it's combined with the dispel dots that go on to going through the portals.
These combinations, obviously you can be hit by these swirling balls, but Echo
will be heading to the platforms. All the lives, a little bit of people need some topping
up as you can see, clicks and so on are suffering here. But if they're working well, what we're
going to see here is them doing this one normally and then bloodlusting the next one in order
to get through it because they want a little phase three messing before they move on to
this actual bloodlust removal. They'll keep that there for a while yet for progress.
So we've got this Yank coming through here. Ideally we're going to have one more
person go through the portal swapping sides with the opposing team. Why is it opposing?
other half of the raid. Managing to get through that particular platform easily enough. The
ad has 22 seconds until it finishes its cast blood, thus being popped in order to break
through that shield as well as cleaving down as much as possible. It isn't necessarily the
amount of damage that needs to be done here. It is the amount of damage that is being
done to you as RevVis does go down, followed by Penguin. We do have reses for both of
them. Hopefully that's going to be done relatively quickly. The ads have been
taken down though, which is the very hard timer. If you don't break through their
shields and kill the adds off before the cast goes off then you'll be very sad. So far so
good though as we're going to be heading up to the third platform all players alive no
battle res is available but 10 seconds left on us. Yeah now you can see Jinji who has previously
taken that first portal is now going to be taking the first one here this is the sort of
it's simpler than the platform two as we've seen now he's getting the dispel you can see that
massive raid wide damage it goes on so your script will be now just wait wait wait now
now to dispel and unleash that damage, but there we go guys, we're going to phase three,
the first one of today.
Yep.
Let's see if we see them do anything different here, because we know they've been cooking.
Yep, they've been, Rodgers had a four hour sleep last two days.
He's been doing nothing but cooking.
Let's hope that it is in raw as we're going to be heading into this last phase.
Largely, you can see them getting a new set of raid markers down.
Very good.
This is very likely to be where they're going to be placing their shackles.
Something that Liquid did incredibly well is placing the shackles down to where
the ad spawn so having that knowledge already in is going to help a lot first and foremost
though we are going to have this infest cast oh isn't that a little early for the typhoon
there or ursels vortex yeah maybe maybe not we will see but there we go we're going to
get a bunch of ad spawning as well as swellies these ads are not allowed to reach the boss
it looks like the vortex has indeed time out for the warrior there goes Rev is I suddenly
top of the damage meters. I wonder if I have spot two of them going, but it's okay. We can
keep going. We were able to survive it, no we weren't. Getting the CC wrong is a little
rough here, but we can still keep going. Hopefully we can get these kicks out on these ads. Each
of these acolytes of course, when they die, spawning an essence or their soul, which
does need to be picked up and taken through the portraits, but with this many players
dead, it's good to get back into this phase, but this is not how we wanted this
phase to go.
This is a damage profile change. This is what you'll expect to see and what they
probably what he's just put down is they've done the math on exactly how much AOE can we put onto
those ads in a position where we can simultaneously cleave onto the boss. And now we've checked it,
maybe we need one more and that's what it'll be case because they'll have somebody else holding back
for their mega mega burst. This is basically brute twist tech. Yes exactly. Exactly what it is.
It's like okay yeah we get a big group of smallies that come in. There's no reason
whatsoever to have the whole raid blast them down because we get them again in about 10
10 seconds. We've blown Bladestorm, Breath, all your Demon Hunter, Cleave, etc, etc, etc,
your Moonkin buffs. Then we have nothing for the next one and they'll just live forever
and we wipe. So I guess why we're still lusting in Platform 2 is to get here and it's like,
okay, the plan is we're going to put this here. The radius should be perfect so we
can Bladestorm and do everything in here. We're also hitting the boss and they were
just slightly away from that damage check. Not by much, it was like 2, 3%. I think
the damage check was actually on point, but those adds just got to the boss too quickly.
CC was wrong there. Oh, you think they should just delay the CC?
Well, that Vortex was down, and I don't think it affected the adds in any fashion.
So it was just a real whoops. That was just a whoops.
In all fairness, they could have called for a backup,
maybe because I assume they're using like they have a binding shot.
Available trash, I suppose, Jesse, your thoughts.
Confirmed. All right. There it is.
You put him in the bin yet again.
In all fairness, though, to him, like you can have people back you up.
If something goes wrong, you can make sure that you got a binding shot down
the mages might be able to go in and do some shenanigans.
You know, there's other people that could have helped obviously that would make it so that subsequent ad sets are going to be a bit scuffed
Because you might not have your CC available
But in terms of just getting through that one and getting further in the phase
I feel the backups could have been there to maybe help out
You did see the ring of peace go down
But just slightly not enough resources plowed into those ads with the CC that we did have available so unfortunate as it was
It was good to see them get into that last phase everyone alive
No battle res is and no bloodlust, but seal better than out
Nice, sir. Nice nice place for Reves to be though. Yeah, Reves just like oh, oh, I just stand here. I go
I bet his burst damage during that period of time Jesse is absolutely absurd
It was hit all those target targets saving everything for it. You give a fury warrior an arms warrior, whatever
He's playing fury right now. Let me flash at you. Yeah quick Reves is damaged for fellow in the course of that fall
Oh, I like that. Let's have a little that up for me production
He is AFK until the end and then it just goes burr. Is that 430 mark the point in which we're on platform 2 as well
So yeah, he's going crazy on platform 2 then it goes for a little nap then he comes back and all the spiders
Time to a we I imagine he's going to be doing a lot of work in that final phase because obviously the objective here
Is to cleave as much as possible if you're going to damage one thing you should also be damaging the boss
To get her HP down where they need to be but lovely pull back to phase 3 for echo
This is looking all right.
It's looking all right.
They've had extremely good consistency getting into P2
that's far before the lunch break.
Now they need that same consistency getting through P2
so they can start practicing P3 for the rest of the day.
P2 however is very very hard.
I've been looking at the damage overlaps,
particularly on the second platform.
The second platform has the issue where
on the first and third you're going through the portals
every 10 seconds picking up two debuffs
to be dispelled. Those debuff dispells hit for an average of two and a half million on
every single person in the raid. Two of them going over once. It's five million damage
to everyone in the raid. On platform two you have an ad that puts two more out while the
portal ones are still going out. So you're again doubling the amount of damage everyone
is taking every 10 seconds. So it gets very, very spicy, which is why I don't think
they'll be moving the lust for a while until there's consistently getting through that.
Because of course the best thing to do is practice P3 without lust. And until you
You are forced to relearn that without the lust, pitch is going to be very difficult until
you can do that.
And considering each player right now, just a little perspective thing, you're looking
at what?
Around 5.5 million health per player right now?
5.5 to 6 depending on the class.
Yeah, so like tank songs, literally, obviously.
That's a lot of damage to be taking.
The healer's doing everything they can to try and squeeze their way past that.
It's not easy.
At this point, I really think that platform 2 lust is more of a healer lust than a DPS
lust.
I mean, it's great to get through the shield.
shield but the 5 million damage every 10 seconds to every single player of the
raid that's a healer less for now. What's our Algrax trinket count right now? It's
pretty high. I'm wondering what the rate... I'm gonna try to keep it out next time
we get there, see what our HP is at by that time. What's so good about the
Algrax trinket then? So it gives you a half million HP bonus every time you use
it but that's permanent for the remainder of the fight. Oh! And it stacks so the
next time use it you get another half million I think where we say Jesse on
Kai Vezer by the time they were getting to the end some of the melee were having
like 10 million HP I'm not sure I hadn't looked at that but we currently have four
of those trinkets in the raid okay so it might be something that we're not
too invested in having right this very second but like the longer the fight
goes on especially if this is looking to be one of the longer fights in
here probably matching a brew twist the length of around nine maybe nine
and a half minutes at a push. You know, I think Brutus is just shy 10. That's going
to be a lot of uses available, potential lot of HP. Of course, if damage is an issue though,
survival be damned, we're just going to use the trinkets are going to give us the most
damage that we possibly could to get through it. But hopefully it doesn't get to the
point where we're having to do Kivesa strategies on a boss as mechanically intense as something
like Anterec where you have to cut down the amount of healers. Obviously, we can't
solo tank this, but you know, making it as risky as possible, doing everything that you
can to get there rather than just encouraging clean play. Because once you start saying,
okay, just go all out, you have to play super crazy, that's when the pool counts go from
the hundreds to, well, you know, maybe like the early 200s all the way up until the 400s,
500s where you just play crazy all the time. Do you think we're going to have 500 pools
on this boss? Now that we're here, obviously our original pool counts have already been
Listed. Oh, yeah, no one could have predicted the difficulty of this raid whatsoever and come out. So I think it's like one or two percent behind a good DPS drink
Oh, so it's really good. That's good. Yeah. It's not the actual pinnacle, but it's it's not like you're kicking yourself in the teeth
Yes, but yeah, unless something weird happens. I know Jesse is been pointing out is like
I think this dies at zero and it's just really goddamn hard. Yeah is where we're going if it is that case
then yeah I could see us going for a number of pulls because they're gonna
see what we're gonna see ultimately if that is the case is a lot of like okay
we did p3 clean and she's got 20% health left okay what's the next step and
that's like not a resets worth of gear right 20% and that's that optimized
we're in full sylvanas mode then is that okay we need to squeeze every
drop out of this to whittle away the amount of health see where we go
It's something I remember was speaking to Roger before where he got to certain fights and he's just like oh this has to have died at 40%
They got to the 40% is like I to 30 then gone to 30 maybe 20 10
Okay, no, it just dies a zero. We just gonna go that hard
Yep, so it's something that these guys have dealt with before obviously boss health right now
Not necessarily their primary concern
They just want to get further and further and try and see as much of phase three as possible
By getting as far into that phase as they can and hopefully this pool will allow them to do so as they are into the
Intermission now you're going to see the players doing as much damage to the boss's shield as possible
You can see that little bar at the top of the screen denoting how much percentage is left in so it's like around 75 now
I'm going further down as well as like a little bar above it
They're saying what the boss is sending out so sending out these waves of blobs sending out a upcoming
a grip in this yank as they call it, so in three seconds they're all going to get dragged
to the boss. If you go inside the boss's hitbox or there's like a little circle around it,
you will die. You're also spawning goo on the ground, mini going down, no res available.
It's going to be a great loss not having mini for this particular upcoming phases
on that frost death knight doing a hell of a lot of work, but it's still doable,
especially with the bloodlust the way they're using it. Need to break through this
shield. They only got three seconds left to take out the last few percentage points,
which they were able to do, but they did lose some players.
Yeah, you can see that when they get to that point where they're really pushing it is the room is so filled with webs
There's nowhere for melee to go. It's just damage on top of damage on top of damage
And even though you are skipping the final yank as they call it which is the one that will wipe the raid is
You know just taking too much taking damage from there, but you're right
You're losing mini and that breath of syndragosa on that platform with all those that's stacked up. That's not very good
Friends not good at all. That's not gonna get it done
Unfortunately still incredibly hard, especially because they they have to obviously time that you can see their DPS profile is just to clear it
Mm-hmm as that yank is coming give them maximum CDR
Cool down reduction that is in order to have everything they could possibly have for the platforms
Especially if the lust is coming all those kind of good things. This is an uphill battle for all these guilds
Oh, it really is. Yeah, it really they're rising to it. Oh, yeah, it's like Bruteswister, huh?
This is actually really really hard
overcome Kai Bezza
I don't think that HP is possible. Well, turns out it was. Yeah, if we
Vansus everybody
One tank and we no longer have combat res as a safety net it might be doable. Huh? It is doable silk and court
Is it doable before reset? Don't think so. Oh
Mechanical check that anything else. Yeah, it actually is okay, and we've overcome that challenge
And now we stand here at the precipice of the end of the race to world first and
And it's still a vast chasm.
We think?
Well, yeah, of course. We don't know how the end of a boss will work.
Blizzard moving away more recently away from those sort of mythic-only
twists to fights. Didn't have one throughout the entirety
of the Dragonflight expansion, whereas we have had them once per expansion
going back all the way to...
It's true, we didn't get a single one.
No, not a single one. I think we've had a mythic-only or most difficult only style
mechanic all the way from cataclysm all the way up to the HFC I imagine why did
you bring I didn't bring up this time because I don't get it you never talk
about hellfire since it out with me Alex I'm sorry my apparently you're always
talking about I never talked to me about I'm sorry yeah man up part of the HFC
club. Did you do HF? You must have. I did half of it. Quincelli, as if by serendipity,
my son was born as we got to Gorphine, so I stepped out. I obviously, I was the tank
and I had to stop. Obviously, the Guild Newt was coming. It wasn't a surprise that we
did both. Oh my God. Really? Now? I hadn't seen her in 10 months. It was really odd.
I was like, oh we got to goffing cool. This is a good time for me to step out because I
won't be able to be here for the full prog when my son's coming. Turned out to be really
cool because that might suck. Goffing was a good fight. I never did it, but the guild
didn't like it. Let me put it that way. That was a feedback I got. It was a good fight
if you had like one or two people who knew what to do. They had to control the
rate of people going in there. If you didn't have that person who was really good
at controlling, like it needs to be a DPSer, like normally a Warrior, so your Warrior had
to be able to like raid lead.
That was not happening.
Unfortunately, we did have a Warrior in the team who was more than capable.
Surely not top.
That was Nick.
Oh really?
Nick played a Warrior?
Yeah, Nick plays anything.
I have never seen Nick on anything but a Mage.
Yeah, when he was playing with us, I pretty much really did play him.
But yeah, no, it was, yeah, that was the difficulty of that fight.
See, how it got dragged into Hellfire, sit on Gorphine again.
Because there's so many tales to tell.
Oh, there is.
So many stories.
Wonderful boss so many memories boss trinkets that were so broken that you didn't even DPS the boss until like 40%
And then it just blew up and killed everything. That's kind of the case. Legendary rings were in HFC where you could kill the boss in seven seconds
Yep, that was good as well. It was good times. It was um first time we used week horrors HFC
What's that? I think there was week horrors on the lead up to but it's like when they started really kicking off
When they started to cheese things. Yeah, I just like on on Iska
There was a boss where you had to do CC but you were in a room that had a ceiling
You remember the soccer far fight where you're in that robot? Yeah
The ceiling in that room was just the right height for my camera to make it
So I put the most of my ice traps on the ceiling
little unwise
Put it down dude. No look obviously I was recording it. I look back in the footage and I was like, oh
Oh, I see yeah, that's happen
Unfortunate just like this pool is a little unfortunate as we are going to be calling it as a few too many deaths in phase one
It is what it is just goes to show how difficult phase one truly is
However echo do need to rise to this occasion and burst through this wall that seems to be holding them down post lunch
As we haven't had too many phase two pools just yet. Yeah, they change anything Jesse. That's obvious to you
P1 how often they're getting hit by a multiple things the Mao
That makes a lot of sense out of interest we've generally had only one paladin in throughout the entire
raid because obviously we want that devotion or another paladin has been
tremendously awful or anything but especially in the healing role with
preservation being so kind of gross it's it's surprising to me a little bit oh I
think it piques my curiosity as to why we still have than it in on his pala is
that something that maybe you could see a change in the future or is it just
far too useful in terms of the utility that it provides I don't think you're
gonna see banner-swapping the blessings of freedom are extraordinarily good
on this fight, and that's why we have the Paladins. Also the Holy Paladin is doing
good healing. A good effective healing over the course of the entire fight.
Paladin bias. That's true. Jesse, you played Paladin, right?
I used to play Paladin.
Did you have like, were you like a multi role healer, a multi class healer, sorry?
I played every healer spec on some progression fight during Graceful's first accept rest of the drink.
Oh, okay. This is why you hate rest of the drinks. I just know they're bad.
Oh no, shot!
You know they turned into a big tree?
Dude, they got buffed...
6% I think it was.
They got buffed by 8% and then they got buffed by another 4%.
And they're still bad.
Damn.
But of course, Prez is being nerfed on the reset.
Uh, this grossness of Prez of Elko...
Is it actually?
It is.
This is me, what's happening with that?
Oh, gods.
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Yeah, no, that's, yeah, Prezi is getting nerfed.
What's happening to Brez?
So there are, according to Blizzard,
they are changing two things that was causing
the explosion of healing that engulf does
when you consume a dream breath for yourself,
to do too much healing.
Apparently it was double dipping from versatility
and gaining more benefit than intended
from another buff, reducing both of those.
Regardless of how they couch that,
that's gonna turn into a significant reduction
in their engulf healing,
which is the big chunk of their healing,
particularly raid healing.
I think in Mythic Blast though, at least they should still retain some of their strength very much in Mythic Blast.
Yeah, because you're not much of an engulf build there, which is excellent for me because I don't intend on raiding.
But I do intend on doing some Mythic Blast.
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Good guy, unless the rest of you get screwed.
It does need to be brought back in line, but there are some fights that it honestly feels like we wouldn't have been able to get through how the presentation evoked.
So I wonder if with the increase in gear over time that's going to nullify the fact that we did have kind of an overpowered healing class available to us
Or maybe whether or not this will coincide with maybe some boss output damage nerfs
Well as you can see by the healing needs, it's not like they're doing that much more
Oh no Mike, they are
Wait a minute, that's quite a lot more
That's an entire 10% more, it does turn out to be a lot more
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He actually didn't drink any.
Oh, really?
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Yeah, he told us he drank it.
But we said, but you know not to drink it.
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And then he said, so you drank it and he stank of it because it was like airfreshing
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And then we got there and then afterwards he told us like, well, I didn't drink
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I thought it all over my clothes
It looks like morons like well, why would I drink it?
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Doesn't it hurt more when they say things that are so clearly falsely intended to make you feel better?
You just know they're lying to make you feel better.
I know that.
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This is hilarious.
What's it called?
Stunning Paul.
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I don't have a tan. I think I've got high blood pressure. Oh dear
That's the problem
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I was the in the early parts of summer out all the time and then this was coming up
So I spent a month inside just looking at the computer screen
Isn't isn't that just the color that you know exudes from your skin when you eat nothing but beans for months?
Like a carrot thing. Yeah, yeah, that actually turns you on
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long long time ago. What year was that if you had to guess? I remember seeing it
when I was like yeah like eight years old or something I shouldn't be watching
Southbucket Apo. Well, we all did. Yeah. So yeah, good means. We've got a $10 donation in from Doudon. He says
I'm tired of hearing people say British food is awful. Well, they should probably just stop talking about British
food then. In fact, British Britain has the third most delicious food in the world, first being Indian and second all the other
countries. You can get some really good food in the UK. Yes. But most of it is, you know, kind of garbage. What?
What garbage meal have you had?
There's two kinds of food in England.
Bad food and stolen food.
Pretty much.
That's not true though.
You can have...
That's about it actually.
What is wrong with you? Defend the nation.
For the king?
Not for the queen anymore.
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It says what's your favorite boss fight of all time? This is where we wildly disagree
Like you time because well as long as you don't time if you say blast furnace of all time
Then I will like find a large bottle of alcohol and I can't remember why last line there because obviously it changes
But I still to this day think it's Kalthus
That was some of the
Greatest no only was that boss fight design really good for its first era obviously
But it also had the grandiose
Spectacle that's kind of missing a lot in a lot of modern bosses like you had Kael'thas not only rise up to ascend essentially
But also shattering the ceiling as it all fell down
The same sort of spectacle we saw with blackhand like I loved the spectacle of blackhand with it
Like even getting so inferior is crushing the whole Citadel down for sure
I mean follow-through so I I really am a fan of boss fights that also have some sort of extra big spectacle to them
So it adds more immersion into what's happening
So yeah, Kelthas, Blackhand, but also BlastFenis, I love very much.
I do. I love that fight. I love fights that divide the raid team into a multitude of different jobs.
Kelthas does it.
For me, I totally agree with you with BlastFenis. It's cool that you've got two different jobs on each side,
but the fact that you had the mandatory pre-shovel just sitting there in mind control for the entirety of the first phase is just...
No, I was just... I just had to listen to him complain about it.
Oh!
You know, it just... that's the part to make it.
Yeah, as a role guy, it's such a great time on that fight.
That's very fair.
They're very fair indeed. Yeah, no, my favorite boss fight. Um
That is your thumbnail it is my
Well, actually it's not my thumbnail. That's a terrible thumbnail. This was like eight years ago. Yeah, true
It's settled down. Yeah, what's yours then you dodging the question? I am
I'm getting harassed by production who seems so changes. That's true
I think the most accomplishment of the field a felt killing a boss is probably you now
I agree. That was a really really fun time.
That's that spingle what he thinks.
When you came in last minute swooped in to the queue.
I did do the proc. I missed two days, that's all.
For what, Mike?
From what?
That also happened.
I had no idea.
I mean it's ups and downs, calls, meetings.
I'm trying to remember.
I don't know why I actually lost those two days.
I didn't do the first fight because it was banned.
I don't know what that fight's called but um...
I did all the prog, I missed two days because I had to go somewhere, um...
I don't know what it was, I think I'm always casting, because uh...
I think I was casting for, yeah, methods, UNAP, and then they killed it, and I could come back,
and then let's go to a dinner party, so I came back and then I killed it.
That was bad times all around.
Um, yeah, no, I think UNAP's certainly up there, I think it was just nice to have a really out-the-way fight.
I like I like the little mini fights which have like no impact and like you're just doing them because they're difficult
Something like hellier as well. Some reason it's actually be just the difficulty of the encounter
And it's just like we've made a few bosses and we made them really really like we put a lot of effort into them
They generally turn out to be some of my favorite ones. So, yeah, like mechanically speaking in terms of like
Spectacle and all those sorts of things you're entirely right. I didn't do Calvus. I didn't break it back in
Yeah, sure. I didn't read through most of Rafa Lich King as well. So I missed out a lot of the cool stuff in Old Dwarf as well
See, I'm not a huge older boy. It was the best raid. I think overall best raid of all times probably fair
But it has some absolute crap in there every good raid. Yeah, it does. It has some real crap in that raid
Like I think I CC is up there as well as like putreside is phenomenal
single go sir is great although it's got some trash fights like that healer
fighting there was blood counts was crap so it's it's hard to get like
carousel is known as being so amazing is there a bad fighting carousel
besides the basement I don't think they're we're against TBC area so you
wouldn't have ready I did get cars in in a little 10 man that was cute but I
gotta say best fight of all time probably the champions of life that's
a criminal thing to say there's nothing more epic than fighting a
Paladin in an alleyway
So thank you very much for that question
From anonymous who says any chance we can get perfect on the couch again today was great having a player perspective on the couch yesterday
Keep up the great work and let's see that mythic only face. Thank you so much anonymous
And I think so hell yeah, if he wants to it was wonderful
I wasn't here on the couch, but I was watching in the classroom. I was just shelling
It was it was
I love him. Every time we get the chance to have Perfecto on the couch, I'll always take it,
as with most of the players, but he is here. Sorry, earlier he wasn't in the gym earlier,
waiting to see Phase 3 summons the power of Perfecto. At this point, we still don't know the
comp that's actually going to kill this fight, legitimately. We have no idea.
Yeah, it looks like they're going through... They're taking some time to really try and nail
down whatever they've had issue-wise here, because this sort of long break between pools
normally means that they're trying to re-cook something and get something done, so...
Something's not been right for the last few pools.
So hopefully they can figure out what that is and we're going to continue on with your donations
Don't worry. We're not missing out on any of the brog. We've got a five dollar donation in from necronod who says I'm Jarvan
And I'm helping I tank to help I sit at alpha Alex love you Alex and go echo
I remember that meme when I back what I used to stream a hundred percent
Yeah, he tanked a lot of health I said it for me
We did so many kills with that last boss
Do you remember as he was going into the next expansion you can get like a mount or something
I I tuned into your stream regularly to see what you're up to and you always on a different character
Yeah, everything and you're in HFC. Yeah all of us lived that dude. God got super bids got a five dollar donation in from D'Alenno
Who says health I said this not I like come on now help I said that was the only time I read admit
Don't do that. What?
We want our tails of hell fire citadel. We were there. Well, Jesse wasn't what we were there was the only time he did
Raiden health I said
Oh, he started in one. I thought he started in the little you John. No, that's when I stopped over the limit
Yeah, that's Jordan Jordan starting Legion. That's it. Yeah, but I'm just picking up one question
I love the character
Yeah, never once leveled the character
She missed out on such a wonderful experience
But that is kind of absurd right? It is crazy. Yeah, it's so weird
Yeah, I can't fathom that because if that's how it never occurred to me until she told me that is that oh
That's probably a ton of players
Who play world of Warcraft?
You have never leveled the character like it sounded off in the chat
Like I'm really curious like how many people have never leveled a fresh character before oh, maybe we could get that as a poll
That'd be kind of cool to see that the lie other way
Lie every like no oh a level 10. Yeah. No, I love what I bought just 50
Although we did have a drama time story recently of a guy who had spent
thousands of dollars per month on
Character boosts I because he then deleted the characters when he was bored of them and bought another boost
and ended up cycling around to review the same classes.
I'm aware that he could have multiple classes.
He didn't like his character selection screen
having multiple characters that he wasn't currently playing.
So he would delete them, boost a new one, play that for a bit,
get bored of it, delete it, and boost another one.
That's the reason that these boosts are even available, man.
That is pretty spooky.
I think it was $2,500 a month for almost a year.
He was spending a World of Warcraft character boosts.
I don't know what to say.
I've got nothing.
You know, that whole old sort of adage,
You forgot nothing nice to say.
Just to say anything at all.
Yeah, I've never heard of that before.
Yeah, I've got more on that.
Ha ha ha ha!
Oh yeah, that does sound rough.
That sounds like a huge way to put it.
All I'm hearing is you guys are too poor to keep your character selection screen clean.
Ha ha ha ha!
You can't change server for Christ's sake!
Just hide it that way.
Ha ha ha ha!
There you go.
Oh, four!
Can we trust this?
Never ever level the character-
What we're saying is, have you never leveled a character from one?
Because obviously all of them has leveled her current character in a new expansion, but never from one.
Started the game, got a boost with it, which everybody gets when you get the new expansion
and just boosted and stayed there and never saw the early game.
Even afterwards, like, went back and made an ult.
Like, Jon's never done that either.
She has multiple characters.
I think she's boosted them all.
Oh, damn.
I mean, maybe I'm wrong there, because I didn't...
I can't remember the last time I shot a character with him.
I did level a character from one, though. When was the last time you did that?
Like, a real, like, just a fresh one.
Uh, Panda.
Because none of them after that I've had to.
Demon Hunter started at 70, I think.
Yep.
Uh, and, uh, Evoker started late.
Yeah, so the last one I had to do was Monk.
I've been leveling some characters that are,
that I did event at one point level from level one,
but I just haven't played for a long, long time to the,
like, level 30 or something.
That's like, oh, I really fancy playing this, uh, class.
That roll was a little sketch beer as, uh, rolled to get in line with this,
but there was, uh...
Two down.
down again the phase one providing a little bit of difficulty as you see i feel like they've changed
something for some reason uh because it's that it's exactly the same point when we know there's a
huge dot on the raid and the webs come out they're not surprised by this damage intake uh but it is
for the last couple of pulls after they've been doing some wine time they've been struggling a
little bit here but i fail to see but the times of this fight what they couldn't be using anymore
they have put bloodlust and also get through their shield as if they do want to keep playing
but we did just have Frag- oh so Frag-o get dragged into the boss so they are gonna break the shield
maybe they're just quickly testing something that they've just developed
no they're just running into that okay yeah odd odd little bit of prog here obviously dips do happen
um so i don't know if that's something maybe that is discoverable via logs uh just i will take
a look but i'm willing to bet that they got clipped by a rolling block yeah i'm wondering about the
Healing and Myth hasn't changed in the first place.
Hasn't changed? Okay, interesting.
Yeah, I'm being told if you wish us to rate your favorite raid boss, feel free.
I will tell you the correct opinion based on your suggestions.
So Mike's just gonna hate on all of your stuff.
No, no, there are some tremendous raid bosses out there, but it can be wrong.
I'm actually more interested in the undersung heroes of raid bosses.
I don't think it needs to be Giga Hard or whatever to be great or bad.
Like sometimes, like XT, there's a great example of that.
It's not super hard by any means, but what absolutely tremendously fun boss fight. Oh, right. It's just really great boss fight
It's it's you know, it's boss number technically it's boss 2
But it can also be boss 4
It's just a really really full boss. Let's see here for frango. Oh
Just got one tapped by the a we asked what I'm saying. They're usually they're cupboard there
We saw this with Markleys yesterday, but his personal wasn't possible those lines very curious
But yeah unsung heroes. I'm very interested to hear like if you got an unsung hero the boss fight Jesse
It was like it's not a harness. It's not an emboss, but what a tremendously fun fight. Yeah, I'm trying to remember some of those
Hands and friends I would put in hands and friends was very good. I also thought that I know that you don't like this fight
I mean plus
Bacrophagy as well, but with operator Thogar. I thought it was very cute
In terms of the like long dance traveling through there wasn't many choices and something maybe you did have to
Send little groups off to go and do things and the thematics of that fight
I thought word hit that I wish I liked it. What were you playing in that too?
Because I'm like I was playing combat rogue, which was great like for my min maxing was great because you could really delay
This is super nerd stiff, but you could delay your combat insight
So at the time combat played had a passive core combat insight that went from green to yellow to red
And you did maximum damage at red. I remember that a little bit. Yeah, you're similar striking took you through the stages of combat insight
so what you could do
Was take it to yellow and then you could stop using some strike and use relentless strike instead
Which didn't advance combat insight so the second of the trains would pour out of people
You could tricks once in a second to strike into red combat insight and pop that with killing spree and stuff
You would do millions of damage
It was the only way you could rank one on that fight
But it just felt so satisfying to nail it and get it right so on the fight itself
There was a lot of maxing for me to do so I enjoyed that but you know, I don't like where we have to play as one person
I'm not a fan of those kind of fights. That's absolutely fair. Yeah, we have got some more donations
So I do want to get to them this one was from D'Elino who was talking about how I said that we didn't finish the
Actual thing that we got to shave a pool happened. It was fine. We had a five dollar donation in from D'Elino
It says how I said that was the only time I rated mythic
I joined the second team of Stark industries and cleared everything up to Tyrant Valhari
Harle, no, Delhari, got there, where I had to stop and focus on exams, exams, but they
downed Gorphine pre-nerf, was very hype, there we go, there was like three mythic raid scenes
in Stark Industries at the time, it was a very difficult fight Gorphine pre-nerf, that's
what I was told, well I was playing Borderlands 2 on my couch with a baby on me, we got
a 5 dollar donation in from Cedric who says Mike I just wanted to tell you that you're
a moderately decent lad, even though you are British.
There you go.
Well, I thank you, Cedring.
That was a mighty fine quip that you just put out there, and I thanks to see you at Miss
Bettyworth's this afternoon.
Of course, the scones will be on you.
We've got a $10 donation in from Rory, who says, disbears stream.
One time I travelled to a different server in 14 to visit Preaching Person, and he
said my Osmo mount was rubbish.
Okay, bye.
There you go.
Mike, not only harassing people on the stream, but also off-stream.
That doesn't sound like me.
Oh.
We got a $1 donation in from Hellfire Citadel Connoisseur, who says, Alex, is it one of
your favorite fights, Star Olga?
Yeah, I actually really like that fight as well.
It was, I don't think it's a very good fight to have in a video game, but it was, once
again, incredibly satisfying to get down.
Great kill.
Not a huge fan of it, though.
Yeah.
One of those, those one shot mechanic ideas just get tedious very quickly.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, they really do.
It was fun to try and work out exactly how to do it, but there were certain points where
you're pulling your hair out like, oh, why is everyone playing so bad and then you decide
to just troll for 30 minutes.
Yeah, you just lose interest when it's the case of like, oh, this looks really, it's
like when we cast the curse things.
Honestly, we come back in, everyone looks awesome, the guys are playing out, they're
minding just immediately why it'd be like, oh no, I should have just not said anything.
So we got another $5 donation in from lazypanda, who says, Mike, listen to me, I understated,
I understand even, I do, and I know you won't be swayed from your course, but if there really
is no other way to resolve this, then face me, not as a machine, but as the real you.
It's quite threatening.
And then it says, Mike!
That's it.
It says, PS, Eden Savage when?
Eden Savage when?
Yeah, when are we doing?
Well, after, well, when this race is over, so I don't know, 20-25.
Jesse, do you want to come do eating sandwich with us?
Yeah, do you want to join us?
Sure.
Jordan's in.
Yep.
So it'll be the four of us so far.
See if we can get Malkin and stuff, it'll be fun.
Yeah.
We got a one dollar donation in from Awkward Fan, who says,
shout out to the crew and players who are doing an amazing job.
Want to add in on Favorite Boss, and I feel like raiding Hard Mode Mimeron
when it was current would have been amazing.
Also, how about a donor goal to make Mike cast a pull
in the PVP voice?
What's the PVP voice?
Yeah, I need to hear this now.
Just a little flavor of the PVP voice.
Me?
Why do you even pull in while I got no cooldowns?
You just trash me coming round here,
ready to fight me when you've got all these abilities.
You've got way too many abilities
and way too many hit points.
You just cheat in your stupid spider.
Like that.
Oh no.
It's full Manchester.
what my Manchester childhood sounded like. That also sounds like a lot of people I knew growing up as
well. Yeah, you have to say mate and pal a lot. Pal not so much but mate and brownie what not. That is
garbage. We're back in on another pool though as it seems that Echo have managed it somehow.
I'll go back to member up, we'll get there. Yes. Yes, let's see if Echo, they've obviously
done more wine time. That is why we've got our wine time display up on the table here
to change it. More things in phase one. I am amazed at how much messing around they're
doing in phase one to really kind of get it just so it's doable. Perfect. I wonder if it's
not necessarily phase one and they're making any changes too, but more. Oh, by the way,
we've come up with a new cook for phase three when we get there. They keep building
more and more things at the moment phase one, it honestly feels like unless it's just
seedy stuff, which doesn't require the entire group to sit there for 20 seconds and
for 10 minutes in order for you to say, well, Drago, maybe we should move your scales or
whatever.
Like, no, just have someone assign that to you.
You just press the button when you press the button, right?
It to me seems like they had a grand strategy, grand strategy talk, which is hard enough
for me to say, talking of talking, but they've had these sort of long talks in which they
are discussing something a bit more meaningful than how to do phase one, which they already
know very easily how to do.
of our phase one problems right now are we're getting hit by the webs so unless
they found a new way of dealing with these webs there's nothing really else to
say about this phase it honestly feels like it's entirely possible you know
how Roger is when you see somebody's like wait a minute if we do this then the
webs are always free you know there are a lot of those moments where they
just spot something or somebody notices something on one pole and they're
like huh I mean you guys notice that if we do this this and this it's
actually like I or somebody usually what it is actually I'm wording this
incorrectly, but I'm sure this is more relatable to many people. I never get
webs. Somebody just says something like that. It's like, honestly, I, in all these
polls, the webs are never a problem to me. And it's like, why? Why are they never a
problem for you? Are you saying really never a problem? Like, no, literally never a
problem. And then they check it like, huh, interesting. It's based on where you
go because, you know, can we bait this a little bit? Can we do something
along those lines where we can actually control this? So it could be all
those kinds of things, but it could also be something simple like swapping
cool down since they are I don't want to say it but they're fine well it's just
terrifying damage that's all it is as you see that they are certainly trying to
min max exactly how much damage they're taking one thing you're gonna see that
they do have these little circles around themselves but they're not too worried
if they overlap briefly each of these circles is only doing around 400k damage
every second and a half so you know you have three people on each other all
taking 1.2 million. That's better than getting hit by one of the
orbs that are going out from the boss, any of these slimes, as well as getting
obviously gripped into the boss that will one-shot you. As they're making their
way through, that was the final drag from the boss in this phase. I've only got
5% left on the shield. They're going to time it out a little bit. They could
have done maybe a little bit more min-maxing, but they don't need to worry
too much. As we are going into phase two, two adds are going to be
spawning on this main platform area. And one of the main changes on
mythic just in case you're unaware. So you see these portals at the far edges of the room,
which have normally just been there as like a little, you know, animation to show you
where the adds might have come from. Now we need to send players through them every 10
seconds.
Lay on hands is a good spell.
It certainly is.
Yeah. So basically we need to send people through the portal every 10 seconds, otherwise
the portal gets really angry and one shots us. But when you go through you get a debuff
that needs the spelling, the spawn screw everywhere. It's a bad time all around,
but it's something that you need to do. You can see the little cast bar above
the shadow gate right there so play will be going through disabling that cast and
then it will just start casting it again and that will keep going until the
platform is clear which so far they're doing all right this is going to deal
with the dragons and on mythic that's gonna spawn webs that lovely blink there
from whole full time it perfectly with the dragon so we could move through that
portal cleaning now we're going to the scary part we're up to platform to
this is the hardest platform I don't see it yet there it is okay
I'm afraid Beth, at that point, they could not bloodlust this.
But they are setting that bloodlust again.
We can see Revers going down.
They're getting absolutely annihilated.
Went from 100% to zero as the healer's trying to catch up.
The worshipper is about to go down.
So we're not gonna get that chasacalismic spell going off.
They have to hold on for a little bit longer
as Narko has already gone down.
And they have two combat res.
They can read both of them.
The fact they've just done that exactly that.
The entire raid is up on their feet
as they're moving up to this simpler platform three.
Canucks doing his usual job and checking out that floor for holes
Well, the floor is no longer there as I think he ripped threat from all of those little skitter adds that do put a very very nasty bite on you
Increasing the damage you take now right now taking pretty much double damage
And you can see his health going so so low, but fortunately the skitters are nearly down
But I thought you the portal isn't fed
Maybe that was Canucks is one that you need to do at that point
maybe not either way did lead to an unfortunate wipe at a point where really it feels like
we should be avoiding those with that many people alive.
Yeah, it's done something through yo.
LaMau.
Have they tried that?
LaMau.
Oh man.
That was good though.
It was nice to see them get out phase one because that's been a little while where
we've been kind of stuck there for a little bit.
Oh, hopefully that's not indicative of the mood in the room right now.
I don't know if we can maybe have a little cycle through the player pot to see
if everyone is looking a little bit down in the dumps. Hopefully not. We can't really afford to
another Oaks. Oh no, well,
cogeified perfecto and nice memes always having the best times.
He wants a brood. A oddity. He wants a cup of tea, charity. A little cup of tea.
Or do is a brood perfecto. You wouldn't. I love that the auto is a Victorian era.
mine. See, the only voice I've got is suddenly becomes like Peaky Blinders.
So is a T-Scribe. Oh, I'm going to have sugar in it. I'm sweet enough. Thank you. Oh, yeah.
No, thanks. Scribe me. I'm sweet enough.
Oh, so so far it looks like they're going to continue on salmon through. It's good that
we got that to that point. But obviously something's been cooked up here and I feel
so in the dark it's painful as to what's taking them so long when we're not
seeing very obvious changes to what they're doing in terms of moving blood
lust and increasing the changing movements. Yeah there's so many small
little tweaks that they're making. They can be quite difficult for us here
sitting on the couch and even on the desk to be able to sort of decipher.
I wonder if at all possible maybe it would be wise to have a little bit
of a listen in with wave and at which point we'll be able to have a
a little bit of an understanding through their comms. Apparently they're fully muted. Ha!
Damn.
I hope it does look fully muted.
Yeah. It's not that we're in a safe space in terms of we can't listen to them, it's just
no one's talking.
You gotta point out, Al. Ironic name.
Oh.
Oh my god, do that.
No, he's fine.
He's a little sleepy. He's digested his chucky brownie that we had for lunch. I don't
think they're into spare guys.
No, they shouldn't be. This is an exciting part.
Yes, they've got a little bit of a rough patch, but it's not exactly insurmountable, is it?
They just gotta, you know, get themselves together, work out the small little changes that they gotta do, and then they'll be absolutely fine.
But for this upcoming pool, then, see, we can't have a little listening wave.
I know that I can certainly do a little drink, so maybe we're gonna hop over to a little break.
If there comes one back, we will have a listening.
But if not, enjoy the cool music. We'll be back in a few moments.
Bang those beans!
Well, you're telling me you know.
I go over there.
Oh, yeah, you're going over there.
Watch the blobs, watch it, it pulls, ready to run soon, two, one, running, blades under
you now, thanks Fred, blades under you again now, watch the blobs now, blobs, and blades
under you now, and pulse. Very nice. Plates coming, now, repositioning. Look at the marks.
Running over and two, one, run. Plates under you now.
No, it's a five-stacked overuse. Yeah, blobs coming.
It's fancy. Push the blobs and five stacker and three, two, one.
and you keep going all in 3, 2, 1, 2, 3, that's what I really didn't think we would.
Yeah, there was an egg and a racer and we could play with one death, but...
We need to slam something in that way, we were thinking extra to slam it.
Why is it happening? Everyone has 500 bullets? Every time I don't watch?
Okay
If everyone just sticks to the plan, it's really not that hard. Yeah, but I will get
Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the race to world first one boss remains just a few percent to go to kill it
Sounds free, right?
Absolutely not. One of the most difficult fights Blizzard has ever put together is what stands between echo and victory in this race to world first.
I've had a bit of a rough time of it for the last hour or so. Changed some things around. It's created some more problems in early phases.
The guys desperately need to be doing phase three over and over and over and over again, but right now we're trying to look into phase two over and over again.
It might also be that the things that have changed have now been implemented and are fine, but it might just be a little bit of tilt.
tilt. Not not being horrible.
This tilt does happen. We are all
human after all. We are three
weeks in and we are three weeks in
three weeks of 12 to 13 hour
raid days. So yeah, it can
happen a rough hour. We've seen it on every
single guild stream. So maybe that's what's
going on. Oh yeah. Just a little bit of
like I
did. They were doing. I shouldn't
say this, but I'm going to do a quad review.
Roger was doing the spectacular
presentation. Of course, giving it the full
You know what I mean? He's giving all this and I looked around the room and the players like
They're looking at it like you can see they've got the bug up on their screen and they're going through it step-by-step
And Roger and Mira as they're talking through and the guy's like oh my god
I just let's get to where we need to be this phase one crap is old by about 172 tries
So, you know, let's move on to get there. Oh, you know, it's going good though
We're nice memes has found a new meme that he enjoys
It's a big smiles on his face.
That's what we want to see, you know?
Obviously, last hour or so haven't been necessarily the best,
but it can be improved and they know that they can do it.
We've seen their God pull out of nowhere going into that last phase yesterday,
pushing so far into it out of, like, to the point where they didn't even have
their big wigs or that he'd be even just, like, ready and good to go, you know what I mean?
They didn't have their boss time as ready in any way, shape or form.
So, I love this play.
It's so cute, eh?
Blur into off-the-platform to buy his melee friends a little bit more space and dashing back on
So that the explosion actually happens off the platform just to buy that extra few yards of space for everybody else
That's the micro management that's happening here to make this fight even remotely possible. I actually read a really cool
Fred surprisingly it was on Reddit
Where the guys like you who are also in mythic Raiders looking at this fight going
I think it's going to be a
really good fight. Uh huh.
Well, thanks. Uh like seems
insane. Yeah, but we can't
overstate how difficult this
fight is and how impressive it
is that the guilds are getting
as far as they are as
consistently as they were like
liquid yesterday towards the
end of their day. We're doing
incredible pulls. Um very,
very impressive stuff. So of
course, Echo also been
managing to do that a little
bit earlier today. Um they
hit a little bit of slump,
pop back over to Wood Soul on this point of view. You see that little marker in the middle?
Do you remember having a week or other? Did you ever do it? Just exactly where you used to.
Exactly. So on fights like this where this sort of really precise positioning is going to be
important for the blades. As an example, it's just about to come up. It can make it a lot
easier to see exactly where you are when there is, how can I say it nicely, a lot of things
happening on the screen. It can be super helpful. I mean, there's Harkins back. I used the
the word Harkin there. Nice! I haven't used it since it slipped it in. I haven't used it since
last time. It does harker back to what people used to do on games like GoldenEye. It's like literally
put a dot on the TV. That's its old tech that is still in existence today in video games because
it's good tech. It's on Counter-Strike as well. What am I worried about? Easy dude. Here's the
worst overlap of this entire phase about to happen now where they're all going to chain
blow up and pop pop pop pop all the way into position. Nice turtle. I was gonna say how was he
gonna survive this? He's gonna survive with Turtle. Very fair. Allowing that turtle that is
very good of him. So keep that turtle up for the first bit of raid damage coming into there
because it does so so much and hunters are relatively survivable nowadays but there is
so much damage in here that they need to have their defenses every single bit of damage
I'm assuming this overlap every single dragon that panties pets not attacking right now sad times. Not sure if that week or it's not working or not
Yeah, I wonder it's because of the shield. I wonder if it the registers is not like
But BM being a wonderful spec to be playing here with all the movement necessary
To maintain uptime constantly despite the fact this fight never has you stood still practically the shield is down
Nice, they did have to use a combat as they may seem to go down
that hopefully they can do this weird moment where everything like compared to phase one's like ending there where the room is literally just
A wall zone this looks all free and it's absolutely not it really is and there's tons that they need to be getting through here
Especially with the mythic mechanic
We have to be going through the portal to
Calm it down as it seems to be wanting to explode every 10 seconds by passing through you do make it so the port was
Going to chill out so you see players very frequently switch insides as the first out of four sets of ads have been completed
Heading over to the first platform still very lethal. We could definitely see deaths
But out of all of the platforms probably one of the chiller ones the second platform certainly causing the most issues
Using bloodlust on that platform even now that they've got to keep up the pace
You can see on the boss frames there underneath Queen Azshara you can
Queen Azshara
The two devoted worshippers getting that cast off in 25 seconds the raid will die
There he goes. He's got a sprint. Oh, yeah, they're heading up the platform and you can see the shielded ad there that they're going to be
Killing off as soon as possible breaking through that shield so that they can stop that cost because otherwise
They will die bloodlust has been popped and you're going to be seeing cannex going through a pool
Yeah, he's gonna move off to the side that gloom touch ticking for millions of damage
And then he's going to get dispelled moves out of it quickly not overlapping with the web
So it was so I'm dying to earlier remember these webs that the guys dropping on the floor more and more area denial as this fight
goes on as platform 2 is demolished by Echo here. Now they do have to be very careful.
These little smally adds are far more dangerous than you realize. They are stacking dots on
the tanks. We go to Mires very quickly. You'll see he gets huge amounts of stacks. See it's
17, 18, 20. You're seeing that top right of his screen and on the left in the middle
of bonus damage taken. The smallies are taken down.
Excellent.
But this is looking better. I'm not calling it yet because one portal failure can send
this to the absolute nether realms of fail. We saw that last time when we came in, but
they're off to phase three. Echo is back all alive with a combat resin hand. Now last time
we were here, Al, they had some setup strategy for that didn't quite work. Some miscue. Can
we go back to Canucks actually and see if he's going to be doing that Bersals as we
predicted he would.
Yeah. So we're going to be having a bunch of these little small spiders spawning
from the tank debuff here that you will need to make sure they don't reach the
boss because they're doing an unbelievable amount of damage. It is
survivable if one or two hit, but the rate damage that comes in
shortly afterwards is very likely to finish them off. So here
comes the infest cast onto now going incredibly low, but
still going to be healthy enough in order to survive. The first
set of ads have spawned. Let's see. Binding Shot and Ursul's
there. Make sure they're both set. They haven't even used
yet. So they're like, there it is. Just to buy the guys
more time just to these ads are so fast, but it's one very,
very high, Al. Yeah, it looks like they have managed to
take it down and you're going to get the three
acolytes here. These ads in the middle, the ones on the
little webs do need to be having their shields broken through before you can
interrupt their cast but this is looking pretty tidy so far keep interrupting as
we're going on and when they die they will be spawning souls that we need to
take through the portal so I've literally just spawned thankfully canyx
using a disengage style ability to get back on the platform there because
otherwise it would have fallen to his doom the ads have been picked the
individual souls have been picked up we're gonna be traveling through the
portal and then you've got to spread out because this does a crazy crazy
a lot of space so far so good
though Mike. Yeah Echo is
proceeding a really solid place.
This is all information that
they've had in the past. This
is going to come down to area
management, time management,
but what we're looking for is
overcoming before ads Robin
come down the commentaries was
available to getting back up
now has that caused a
disruption in the ad spawn
there kind of on top of the
boss was Robin going down
there from that huge hit of
the infest. Lovely and
control to let out it was
really good. What actually
went wrong there though
went wrong there though and it's such a shame that now was responsible for
picking up one of the essences and it might be worth going through how this
mechanic works a little bit to kind of describe how it went so wrong so oh we
can replace the Dispatch now so I think yeah there we go
Lalatath there we go and also it's definitely wine time oh it will be
wine time a little bit here for sure there we go
Lalatath by the time so add style the ones in the middle they spawn up
Gotta break through their shield interrupt them when they die they drop an essence and when the boss does that nova that creeps in from the side that wave that comes into water
If any of the essences or souls as we are kind of referring to them as as any of those souls are hit by the wave
You will wipe so instead what you got to do you got to pick up the soul by running into it
And then you can go through the portal
But after that you get those a ways around you when those a always detonate on the ground
They will force you to drop the soul onto the ground and put a giant volon on you
Yep, it's a 500% damage increase from this so instead of doing 1 million damage per second it's a 5 mil to you
Four minutes, I believe it lasts it lasts for four minutes
So basically once you picked up one soul and then dropped it on the ground afterwards. That's it
Unfortunately now was responsible for one of those souls. So he picked up went through the portal all happy. Well great dropped it on the ground
He decides to pick it back up
Yes, so unfortunately now
So he gave himself a 5 million dots, which is going to last forever, so he just melted
just as Merus was getting the tank buster that he needs to take out the group, so the
ads then spawned on top of the boss and all exploded there.
So I'm not sure if it's because the positioning in which the souls were supposed to be placed
was off, or it was a new position that they haven't tried before, so it's just one
of those learning pain things.
I would definitely not say, oh, you know, Robin trolled or anything like that, hell
They've had to do so so much on this fight. It's an incredibly difficult part for the tanks in order to micromanage
Especially if they're dropping off a soul then taunting the boss and dragging it in the correct position ready for the next set of ads
XYZ blah blah blah, you know, it's a lot for
Probably to be doing there. So running over one of the essences one of these souls by accident and getting absolutely slammed by it
Unfortunate but understandable. Yeah, totally and you can see as well
Jinji bypassing using the portal so that doesn't means he just not to get the circular people as well cutting down the
Amount of circles that are going to be on there
They're much larger than they are in heroic and this fight is all about area denial from phase one and phase two and in phase three
Is you're gonna see that so you can see it now here look at that
Shunk it just does so much damage
You can see the essence spawning at the edge of the room there then of course Mara's getting
Please talk this boss. I beg someone talk this boss. That would be the only thing that could be possible
I mean, I was trying to save it as well by ringing on top of himself to knock those ads away as they spawn
But they literally spawn on top of answer. I can make in that unsalvageable
Damn chance a damn shame
But again coming down to the fact that they have a phase three plan in place
That's why Roger was up all night like so he's running on about three to four hours of sleep for the last couple of days
Well, he's been working on this so they'll know that be a very strict map
They're trying to follow which they haven't actually done before that's what the aim of this morning was to do and
And, you know, it's okay, maybe the essence isn't the wrong place.
Yeah, being able to control where we want these souls to go is going to be incredibly important.
Because we only have three at the moment, and you can cut through them wherever someone might get to do hero play and grab them.
But later we're going to have seven that we need to be dealing with.
And then after that we're going to be having, what, 12?
12. So being able to figure out a system where we can place these essences in a way that is accessible to those who want to pick them up,
but is not in the way for those who want to avoid them.
in a part of the phase which is very chaotic, it's going to be key right there.
Obviously some part of that system broke down because otherwise we wouldn't have had an accidental
pickup. Two interesting things to note on that note which you just said as you said we're going to
have three then seven then twelve. At the point we have 12 only 10 players won't have the debuff
that make you take 1000% additional damage from that dot. So two people have to take the
dot the essence while also having the debuff that multiplies by a thousand.
Yeah.
Though, of course, Robin did die there.
He also demonstrated that it's survivable, potentially.
We were thinking that it was going to be much, much more damage than it was.
It was only ticking on him, I say only, but it was only taking on him for around 1.5
million damage per second.
On attack, but that's doable.
Without externals.
Without externals, without huge, without it being planned, without it being super
mitigated. So making that final round potentially doable. Yeah. If you think your target's correctly,
you rotate spell warding perhaps into external of some kind. That is potentially doable. You can
have, you know, a time dilation from one of our invokers. You can have Guardian Spirit,
things that increase the healing done. That's way better than we thought it was. So they did
get a proof of concept there that it is potentially not the hard wall that it might
Otherwise it's been and then another issue and now had two pulls where the spiders get eaten
And if you only have one or two spiders
You get a little boom and it looks good, but the boss is buffed by 50%
Oh one of those spiders making everything thereafter one shot territory. Ah, kai Vezera's return
Little bit of a missed knowledge from so thank you very much from that over on the max draw analysis desk there Jenny Jenny Jenny
Jenny. Thank you. Thank you. That was a mixture of
Jeth, and Jesse enjoying that.
Jenny, Jenny, and Lenny.
And he's got small feet.
Oh, man.
Lenny and his little toes.
Yeah, sorry about that. Thanks, Jesse.
No problem. And Jeth. I'm still
Jenny from the block.
One of the block of Missouri.
The one known block.
Yeah. The infamous block of Missouri.
They've only got one. Best pull of the day, though,
for Echo Guys. That is what we want to see
want to see as they believe that Mirrors is swapping some assignments around so
they did pick up some information which is what we want to see there's nothing
worse than when they're having wine time and nothing's happening whatsoever but
they are moving assignments around I could see that happening on our overview
of all the players so phenomenal phenomenal change of pace from Echo
just what they needed to get a bit more invested into this because they
do not want to see phase one anymore they have to see it but they want it
to be brainless off and just win and then get into the good stuff.
Oh, yeah. So let's more of that, please, Echo.
That's what we want to see here.
Their face suits pretty good as well.
We did have a few deaths, but the fact that we were able to get through it in a way
that it didn't feel super panicked and murdered platform to platform to evaporate
it. Yeah, absolutely annihilated.
It was awesome to see.
But yeah, you can tell by the way the players play when they start to get
comfortable, just the less like sort of erratic movement going on.
Just like, oh, of course, there's a dragon at this point.
Oh, I have a debuff. I always go here making it routine is going to be so important for adding to the comfort when you're comfortable with something
It's a lot easier just to be able to get through it
So you can really focus all of your mental sort of like mental battery sort of thing spending that energy
In the last phase where really really is going to be needed. It's extraordinary
What repetition could do for you even in these horrendous rock boss fights is out
Okay, it feels like we have that with frack phase one if you remember you had
counting backwards and forwards, knockbacks, pools down,
you know, ads swarming into the boss,
like loads of things happening,
if you include the second phase with knocking
all those ads, ridiculous levels of CC coordination.
But once you've done it, like, you know, 50, 60 times,
it's like, yeah, okay, I dropped my CC here.
I know exactly where to stand.
I stand here, because the ads come here,
and I press my typhoon or whatever it might be,
and yeah, it's fine.
So that's what they're looking for here.
Like I said, a little stumble for last hour,
hopefully that's given them a little bit
a ginger shot injection to move forward and keep going here.
I think the players are probably hoping for now, it's not too many breaks, please.
They do have to change things when they find mistakes.
That has to happen, because Echo has never been a fan of like, let's keep pulling while
we change it.
They prefer to pull when the change is ready so that everybody knows what they need
to do, which is what they're implementing right now.
But we do want to give a big shout out, of course.
Max roll not something that got so much uses them the max roll analysis desk during that heroic and delve week
But now as you can see where Jesse has been on that desk for like 10 plus hours a day
I think on and off he lives there now. I'm pretty sure Jesse is sleeping there
Yeah, right Henry
Little blankie down there. Yep providing all this analysis tools for so we can bring you up to date and exactly what's happening
The damage numbers the guys are figuring in cooldowns and swaps and how deadly some of these aspects of the fire
So a big shout out to Maxwell father. I don't know very useful site as well
Of course all of the guides written by the players as well
So if you do indeed you can see every single player who has written a guide there if you go and check out their guides
It directly supports the players as well. So go and check them out some of your favorite players writing some incredibly
useful
guides for us to enjoy
It the one of my favorite parts is the boss by boss breakdown
Yeah, I know about you
I'm one of those kind of guys especially from not super used to when like in a no expansion himself
I'm like, oh, this is the raid build and I just use on every fight
We know how variable like the demands are throughout this raid especially towards the last four bosses where it goes super
AoE into super single target to like a bit of a weird cleave
It's like do you really know what your best build is for the silken core?
Not really. So, you know having a sort of like you can actually export them now
I do it from my death knight is they've literally broke it down so you can just export. Oh, yeah
Oh, this is the all cracks build. Okay. And this is this one. And what I found is that the things I need in here
If I needed an interrupt and I need it to work there
It is it's this one and then I swap to the next one and make it work backwards and forwards for me
That's what it's been really nice. I did notice actually Frago has moved to devastation now. Yes
He's been dead for this entire fight. I think it comes down to the
One element of it at least is the deep breath which is a fundamental part of your build now beforehand
it was kind of like a fun AOE. It did fit. It was a bit odd to use. It was working at some times,
but yeah, the deep breath was a bit weird, but now scale commander, it's like one of your biggest
sources of damage. And it's fun as hell too. It's really fun because you can steer it as you go
around, but it also makes you immune to roots, and you don't rely on using it at the correct
time like Org does. If you just kind of send your breath of Aeons, he says, question mark.
At any random point, then it's not going to get a very good use, and you need, you know,
people to be able to make the most out of the buffs that you give because otherwise you're kind of trolling so
Yeah, he has way more
Flexibility now in terms of being able to do his deep breath whenever they like also doing incredibly good damage at very important points
So I was asking
Like how the dev was playing out and they're like although it might not be like a
Slammer on the damage meters right now as in like topping every phase and all that kind of things
We have the damage where we want it then very very good at these select points
They're really really helping us carry through these difficult times
So an excellent thing to have available. And I think it was actually frango who wrote the death dot. Yeah, they got I've been using it
Yeah, I was actually getting proven as well when I was using death week one. It was very sad
You're stressed out about it
He really was because obviously his native finish and he was really putting loads of effort into getting it right
He's like, oh my god, I want it to be good. You know, it's going under our name
In fact, the facts I was talking about it on the couch yesterday is Lee coming into this race
They had so much work to do not only the 16 cats prepare. They have a lot of stuff to do
really kind of a stressful time for Echo since the wall within has launched and
now can sell them because all they have to focus on now is killing the man I'll
kill him the Queen yeah making it work as mirrors is still changing up
assignments I can see it there he is mixing people around he's changing
things so micro if I fly by to do the next post just follow one person like
you ever saw there because I think only then will you really grasp how much
individual work is happening here to make this phase one work because when
see as sort of an amalgam of swapping POVs it probably looks relatively simplistic but if you
follow what one person has to do like Canucks for example in this fight it's so much perfect
here here here this has to work you know to get through just P1 let alone P2 you know despite
the overall mechanics. You are entirely right so as soon as we do get into another pool we'll be
jumping straight into that but I thought now would be a good opportunity to catch up on some
of the donations you guys have been sending in. I want some boss ones. Well here's some boss ones.
to be boss ones. A two dollar donation in from Dave, who says, what Dave? What Dave?
Who says, how about Mythic Archimonde in Hellfire Zestal? I didn't do it. My favorite raid,
my favorite boss in my favorite raid. Did you do it? I did do Mythic Archimonde. What did you think?
The, I thought it was hilarious that there was that radar that everyone used. I say everyone,
Paragon infamously didn't use it and it looks so pristine. Yeah, the rock chaos management
So good, but um, you know, it was fun to use that bit of tech before it got removed from the game
Because it was so busted and blizzard were like no you can't have that
They just just completely nuked the radars from orbits and now that they there's like some small functionality in terms of like
Yeah, you can't do the radar. It's nowhere near as good. So yeah, no mythic Archimonde was pretty good
It was a very long fight. Did you feel like only phase where you went downstairs and it was actually quite heavily mythic only phase
That's what I was going to say. Did you feel everything leading to that was kind of just a waste of time?
Um...
You know when they have an extensive mythic only phase, you kind of feel like the normal style phase is actually just kind of like K. Gahoon.
Yes.
It's all like bull crap until you actually get to the end bit.
Yeah, I remember feeling that the first two phases, once we had got them down, you were just going through the motions and they were quite easily like you could screw them up.
I had the job of collecting all the fire, I know that I screwed that up more than once so sorry.
Um, yeah, it was, uh, it is not necessarily, it was okay for what it was, um, but it was mainly getting to that last phase and we was using like, you had all the infernal shopping down, the RNG on that was pretty crazy.
And the RNG, that was another fight where a weak aura was disgusting because you had the, you had to, you had four debuffs and you had to put them into four different teams.
You were already in your little four teams, but then you had to assign the debuffs amongst them. You had no time to do it. It had to be pretty much done by a weak aura.
getting that to work back then. That sounds so easy now, but back then that was like witchcraft.
It was so confusing. It was like, what is this? We need like a mother brainweak order and all this
sort of stuff. Is that what it needed? The double weak or a whammy? Back then it did, but I'm pretty
sure, you know, with the modern way that we look at weak or as you'd be able to get it sorted
in a much more simple way. But yeah, no, it was on a right fight. I enjoyed it. It was
not too bad. It was nice having a mythic only face. It was pretty cool. So thank you for
that day. I didn't do this. It was it was it was a donation man. Unbelievable. We got
one donation from Jadumi who says not gonna lie my favorite fight I think during mythic
prog has to be the football boss dark inquisitor Zanish love playing football and seeing the
despair in my guilty eyes on the third on the third ball his job. What the hell is
wrong with you that fight was very interesting no I think it was a cool
little gimmick it was yeah it didn't need to be a one-shot death though that's I
would have preferred it if you did the ball right the boss got a damage
damage amp oh but if you didn't do it you didn't wipe but you lost you had to
do a lot more work you know something like that it could be like it the
instead of it doing like a lethal like say that your health pool is like a
million instead of it just doing a 2 million burst it does 2 million damage
over five seconds so you could like oh crap we screwed this up stack up here in
Gorda let's go go go but it might be to some stuff we just don't interact with if
that boss didn't have the football have nothing else oh it was a garbage but it
had an interrupt checker that was kind of it's outside of it was a cute fight it
was cute I would I don't know I it's one of those where it's like this should
be savable and not just like the three people or its death right I mean we
even saw in the race to world first when I believe this method I think they
at the world first or second of it. Logok, rightfully so, was like, I don't feel comfortable
doing this. It was his turn. It was like, someone step in and I'm just not happy. I'm not feeling
like that level of confidence, which was absolutely the right call because it's better to say, look,
I'm not feeling confident about doing this. Someone just step in if you can, if you feel
comfortable and someone did. But that's how stressful that mechanic was on those few players.
Oh yeah. Certainly in the world first scenario, but you can imagine it in a lot of guilds.
You've probably got one or two players who are like yeah, I want to do it. Awesome
And then everybody else is like I do not want to be responsible for the
I think you need to have 12 people getting involved in that. Is it not three at times?
So three and those four four and then there was five overall, but the first could do the fifth or something super
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but then I remember doing that
It was very boring for those who weren't involved in the football mechanic
It's all because you're literally just waiting for your team to start running interrupts seven in our very comp
or something like that.
It's your boomkin, right?
Yeah, it's a really important one.
Like, you were like, if everything's gone horribly wrong,
how am I going to go?
I had like four, but it was really far away.
I remember having to trot my fat turkey arse over the room
to do my interrupts from miles away
and then come back to the fight later on.
It was one of those jobs.
Echo is into another pool.
Whatever changes they've implemented have happened.
We'll get back to your donations in a little second
with your favorite or even worst bosses.
Yeah, I'll just see.
Do keep them coming in.
We've got some great ones coming up
that I'm looking forward to reading
reading that I've already had a little pre-read of, so do send them in. It's excellent stuff,
but yes, we are going to be focusing on the prog for now as Echo have been working diligently
as much as they can to get through this phase cleanly, something they've struggled with
over the last hour and a half or so. However, we have seen some glimmers of light as it
seems that the tunnel of sadness is about to be exited as, yeah, it's been rough
the last few hours, not going to lie, but it seems like there's a lot more of
a jovial attitude amongst the raiders as they have been able to get out of the phase a little
bit easier.
It only takes one pull for Echo to be reignited. I think, do you have any speaking when they
get like this? I think it's because there's so much bot review, there's so much wind time
that if you're not directly involved in what's being changed, let's say you're somebody
who's like kind of pointless, right? Like Cush. So you've got no involvement in anything.
You're a melee DPS, right? It's like, so okay, it's a lot of downtime when your
job is to blast and have that done. So you can see if Frago has gone down here, they will
be able to send the combat rise. It is done.
Those knocks are very close to one another.
Frago got immediately killed again by the SF, probably a thing, Paul. It does happen.
I can imagine there's a crush as well. It's just like, oh, we're going to have a conversation
about defensive. It's like, well, I'll just faint.
Okay.
Yeah, exactly. Is that just faint work on it? It does, all right. I guess I'm
good.
Oh, looks like they're going to continue pushing actually. At least for now, we will
We'll see. We'll get Frago up at that fort.
There's my...
Oop.
There.
I thought it was going to be a bit of a stretch, but in theory you could get them up for the
four and a half minute point.
Yeah, you can get them up mid-platform, too.
Yeah, which is a very important time.
Probably locking the Zephyr and stuff like that.
Frago is where it stacks a lot of cooldowns during that drag in.
We've seen it from his POV a few times.
Is what he's doing there.
This thing hits so hard.
If you're not covered by defences, then it's not a good place to be.
You're laughing, the rocks are all giggling at each other.
Who thought it was a good idea to put all the melee DPS on one side?
That entire row of players is, have we got a wide view camera of everybody?
So you've got the bodybuilders, you've got Jinji and Nice Beams,
like you can't see it there, and then you've got the melee gang all the way up to Mini,
and it kind of transfers at Mini, and then you've got Castigang and Healers on the other side.
I really feel like they hate each other, but it wouldn't be surprising throwing
things each other because the melee gang that that entire road doesn't give a crap
but that's true they're all melee on that time so yeah they're all there for the
protein I'm gonna fart like the protein part
just getting them out the way of one yeah it's a nice memes and Jinji the
protein fart corner that eventually leads over to the rogue corner which is
just pure kindergarten over there that's fair we haven't got a very quick
donno we don't have time no I'm gonna save it I was gonna read one of
I'm looking forward to this.
I hope it is at least.
Someone's just making up porkies.
I bet they have a little thing in Echo.
Is there anybody you don't want to sit next to?
I know a lot of people don't like sitting next to the melee
because they're just such deviance.
They're just never paying attention.
They're always leaned back, they're laid down.
We actually had it in the Emilsal Rays.
I think it was Korsh and Klicks were all over in one corner
It's so easy. We just nuked the map.
That's all the healers are just in full despair mode.
So this is the hardest thing we've ever had to do in our lives.
100% you come out and Ryzen would be like, oh my god, what are you doing?
And then you just see the clicks and like, oh yeah, you've seen this on Tiktok.
The melee life is a good life, my friends.
My life is good life here. I think Revez would be it Revez is here by the way
But we have of course sealed him in his chamber as he requires every race to world first
He is inaccessible by human touch and contact for all the race to world first put him in the vault
Yeah, we got Revez Poff of interest
Thank you Revez doing thank you guys
It is it's very clean very clean indeed. Although going back to nice memes UI
To see this UI, now see this one. Which one do you actually prefer, Revers?
I would agree with you until recently.
I'm starting to become a bit more of an add-on purist.
What's this thing?
Gotta get rid of the add-ons. Really swirling add-ons in a glass.
I'd sense.
Yasmin, time.
Yeah, and then you go, this is horrendous. That's a lot of UI.
That is pure skull UI. I think it's also a UI
to be viewed. It's got a lot of things here that are tools that other people can read. A
lot of this is an actually for Frago. They're more like as an example, scratch watchers,
his point of view, which he has done before in the past. But yeah, the there's been a
lot of complaints about performance this raid. So I honestly think if there's anything
you can do to just strip back huge to perform our game game for this. Yes, it's really
fine. You can see they've got 80 FPS here on these beautiful starboard. Oh,
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I'm talking about the minis as well, like in terms of the game just crumbling under the weight of having said nuked down a bunch of ads on, um, Brute Twister.
Did you hear they were deleting their cache every hour?
Yeah, exactly. That kind of stuff we would be sore at one point. Mara's completely removing his entire UI in order to try and get down to the source of the problem.
Because sometimes it doesn't matter how strong your computer is. If the game decides that it just wants to sit there and do nothing good, then you're going to really, really struggle.
struggle minigun down doesn't surprise me was a little bit too low going into that
and we have the rest of the healing that he needed whether or not it was his a
mistake beforehand that got him low and not too sure but he will be resed up
very important aspect of this particular phase being able to slam the dam that
having to pull himself back yes yeah I think having a very add-on like you
why he's gonna do you a bunch of good I'm very out on light now it
actually your amount of items is you killed through chief death there I
I think he got actually got dragged into the boss.
Yeah, he must have been dragged in there, Akush.
You can have a dramatically different looking UI with very few add-ons.
So a lot of people ask me, how many add-ons are you using?
I'm like three.
Like really, I don't use many at all.
But I guess if you're using Weak Horrors, which is add-ons within add-ons within add-ons within add-ons.
You can have an entire UI that's just Weak Horrors.
Oh, for sure.
Quite easily.
Yeah, you absolutely can.
But I'm not sure how well it would run.
I actually think Mirrors is fine.
For also being observed obviously is another because all the cooldowns are kind of out the way
He is tracking every raid cooldown that is not only just for raiding also for the MDI
Of which he is kind of coach slash player. This is not good for echo as they go down here
But it's not in it's not offensive. There's there's plenty of clarity and what's going on. Yeah
Yeah, I don't mind mirrors is too much
But so far yeah, Reves is the man of the hour for me, but you are wise yeah
I actually want to make sure we're looking at Revez when we get back into p3 because he is shopping. Oh, yeah
Shopping in fact, so we should do a gopher platform too as well. She's chopping that is Revez is kind of like okay
I mean damage until we get to those phases and then he opens the chainsaw
Yeah, no fury being excellent that add damage even after their nerves going into the first mythic week still prove proving to be an incredibly
useful
Asset to any raid team when it comes to a fight that does have a lot of ads
Which is the majority of them that are difficult right now pretty much only conversa that is ad-free
And I believe he played arms that question. Yeah, at least he did for a while arms of their ration on he is
Yes, I'm there and ration on but they are absolutely cutting up and they have so many potential warriors
Because wolf disco not only a world-class wall like also a world-class warrior and wall life
new addition to the Echo roster who has been present on every fight I think except
this one pretty much. He's at least maybe not been there for the kill but he's been
in at points. I know that he was in on Kaiba for a good time and he was doing a
lot of work there with that double rally but eventually switching him out for
a different source of damage I think we wanted to go for Mini's element, not
elemental sorry enhancement because it was doing a ton of damage. You can see
Whatever issues that they are having they are believing that the spamming of reps is the thing that we get here
We go with policy is certainly a strategy as we are going to be doing a ready check to push on through it
There's sometimes nothing more to be added. It's just well, that was a shame
We've got some p1. What do you want to do? Let's go. Yep. Let's get this going on and check you what cushy
Yeah, you got dragged in there five points. Oh, yes, it was over six million damage on the overkill there
Mira's laughing at him. So
How do you get dragged in?
Gosh.
Greetings for that one last auto, as every good melee should.
The melees always play on a knife edge.
They have an easy time and they use that time to put their lives at
unnecessary risk.
Just to get one more GCD.
That's how they get to be the top DPS in the world.
Oh, yes.
You need those guys who live life and death on the edge.
I'm more of a safe player these days.
I don't mind standing out for a couple of seconds and making sure everything goes right.
But these guys, that is unacceptable.
Unacceptable condition. I am not doing that. We will push and push and push and push through the very very last second
But with a boss with this much HP
That is a very normal thing to do. No new best pull for Echo yet. We have got to phase three a couple of times now
We're looking to get there again
We are still moving the use that bloodless in platform 2 because it is the scariest points
But that will be shifting later in the day after they get their strategy down for p3
Which is clearly what they're after is they want the strats positioning all that stuff
and that means lost platform to get to flat to phase three
More and more and more so that everybody knows like the back of their hand
Everything they need to do in that phase and then they can start looking to push the damage because after that if they get a good p2
platform to
And they get through it then they should be in for a really good time in p3 when they add the blood plus back in
You know, yes, exactly that. It's it's all about
Setting yourself up for victory later on. Yep
Which just mean that sometimes it feels like you're reprogging or you're kind of stalled as you're waiting for the puzzle pieces that were once
Working just fine, but now that you have to shift them about it doesn't end up making a little bit of a mess as we get to that point
But hey hoe something that just needs to happen one thing that I am thankful for for Queen answer
Is it faster malta change often stupid ugly dwarfs that they were all playing? Oh now there's no power in
Oh, do you like the look of names? I love gnomes. No, I'm so scary
I still remember my vanilla days on my priest when a gnome warrior with an ash candy just charged me and killed me in one hit
And I thought that is awesome
Looks so funny. I'm not even mad. That's great. I do hate this trinket where they have to perfect
I was talking about it. I think it's called the transmitter. Oh the transmitter is awesome
Yeah, do you have to find it in all this and they were using on brute twist it
It was just the worst thing ever is you have to turn your character slightly to the right and then spin as you pressed it
So it would definitely spawn behind you so you could backpedal into it and nowhere it is in the middle of all the
The circles crashing down the worms everywhere all those things all little micro the guys are playing it
I thought it'd be troll honestly that transmitter because of like how destructive it would be like the power you get from it
If you can achieve the little task that it gives you is so strong
But yeah, it's a little scary. Let's see if they can do these jumps one by one so far so good
We need to get one more debuff there
Excellent! That's what we wanted to see. They got a big incoming burst of raid damage coming in in two seconds though.
This is very difficult to survive, Gingy. They couldn't get in the AMZ either.
Gingy just wasn't top, so he was sat there at 60% for quite a while there.
I'm not sure if he got clipped by something or wasn't in range of AoE spells or just didn't have his personal available. Not too sure.
I think it was that AMZ being unfortunately unusable as one of the globules moved right through the middle of it.
So they didn't have time to shelter within the AMZ and protect themselves.
You can see those fraggles cooldowns which we were missing last time when he died here
Which enables him to survive through a lot of this damage. It's so much damage
That's the straight up what it is. It's so so much damage
Nira's dead the other side. Yeah, no way for sure makes sense because you won't be able to get to see up until midway
Go again. The second platform consistently struggling
It feels that something needs to give in this intermission because we're getting there relatively cleanly
It's just as we're entering it. It feels more likely that we're gonna lose someone that we're gonna get through clean at this point
It feels like oh wow they managed to get through that shouldn't be the case
I should feel something to the platform. That's what I'm thinking but it's not there anymore
It's certainly making it more difficult. It really really is so I have faith don't get me wrong
These guys know more about the game than I do and they have a better idea of what to do in the raid than I do as
Well, but it's certainly for a reason. Yes, it's certainly feels it's a little bit rough right now
I think he's been summoned.
Oh, Roger is here, ladies and gentlemen.
He has prizes and presents for all of you.
He certainly does.
Oh, wow.
I get your channel points in now.
You can redeem them.
I'm pretty sure we've already met the goal.
But because you guys are putting in so many
of your channel points during these periods,
you're actually breaking our extension.
We've also had a couple of times
where Twitch was a little bit shaky,
because of the amount of points you were already giving.
Send it, dude.
Send it.
Bloodlust.
Loveless this big cult from the audience get your channel points in they're not used for anything else other than Rogers a little treasure trove
So get them in you just get them passively by being here guys
And then we have a whole array a stack of audience to give away for you guys
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You guys are going so fast that we can't keep up.
So do keep those coming in.
We've got loads of wonderful goodies coming your way.
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So do get them in while we can
as we're waiting for a new poll to go.
Oh, it's already done, well done.
And it is done.
In which case, chat, your next task
is not to type in anything exclamation mark wise.
It is instead to vote in a poll
that will appear at the top of the chat.
You do so by clicking on it and then selecting an option.
We either want to be Team Crab or Team Spider,
and that will determine which of the two envelopes
that has become.
It looks like there's more,
I think Spider has been the dominant force.
It looks like Crab has got plenty of goodies left in it.
Oh yeah, there's a well-willing down.
Crab goodies available.
So I'm just saying might be worth because team crab sucks. What? That's why
Team crab sucks. Well spiders
victorious
Don't move weird
Thumbs up. You think spiders don't move weird spiders don't move weird
Wow very predictable movement from a spider. That's the word I'd use for spiders as well
I think it's a bird. Why are you voting crab because crabs are not only the spiders of the sea
So they have all of the spider qualities with none of the downsides you guys are just contrarians, but also delicious
They are delicious when was the last time here is also way more crap prices as production
Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything that means is way more good. No, it doesn't because the best prize
Why are you in spiders good? No, that's the logic. That's poor logic. It doesn't matter
It's the logic you go through all the spider ones. You'll definitely land on the really good one, right?
They're all really good Mike. They're all really good. That's subjective. Oh damn it is. Yeah, that's entirely subjective
If I desperately need a stream deck stream deck plus or something then I
Taken that out of the spider one already
What kind of manipulative tactics is this you crab fiend?
You are bought out by big crap. I have sick of it. I've got stocks in crab you have
Don't listen to all of my merch is team crap much as well
Oh, here we go.
Anything else, Mr. Bias?
Do you know, I was the last person we got given a spreadsheet by Fraggo,
and this is your preach card, so I just got to do it in the hotel lobby.
And I looked through what everyone else had chosen.
There was a surprising lack of crab, and I was like,
I can't let my crab friends be underrepresented.
Speaking of crabs...
Oh, thank you very much!
But we've... So what do we need to reset the raid?
What is that? What is that?
Oh, dear.
All right, this is for chat more than anything.
Yep.
For sure, because the guy's...
Alright, here you go.
Look what Jordan's made for you.
You are a fantastic artist at this.
There we go.
It's better than I could do.
It's Wormsh Wine Time.
Wormsh Wine Time.
Wormsh Wine Time.
Ah, it certainly is.
I think Crab did have it though, Mike.
So, unfortunate times ahead.
You choose. You're the Crab.
Okay.
I'll find them out and let's see
what we're gonna get.
I have a great face.
I feel awfully light.
Hang on a minute.
Let me check something.
I got to admit we did put hard cold cold hard cash in one of those
Really wishing guys chill spider. All right. Let's have a little look. Is there anywhere that you think I should go for?
I think I'm gonna go for I think mid is a bait. I think it's a bit as well. So that's why I'm gonna go
I'm an easy man when it comes to that kind of thing. It's true is the things this guy'll do for a penny weird
include being here
Oh what? Oh, it'd be good if I didn't throw this everywhere. Okay, so never throw your crabs
Never throw your crabs around that is bad news. Let us see what we've got in here you guys
We have one
A Nord VPN bundle
There we go, so we're gonna get a load of Nord VPN goodies
Yep, all you need to do is type in chat exclamation mark
Crab exclum crab baby
Maybe a Twitch DMs are open.
Yes, and do make sure your Twitch DMs are open.
A big shout out to NordVPN for that.
So one of you gonna have a lovely bundle of NordVPN goodies.
And you're gonna have access to all sorts
of international goodies and protection
for the next little while there.
Thank you to NordVPN for providing that for us.
A big team up with NordVPN and Echo,
especially with the rising amount of easy ways
of people getting into your phones
and stuff on public wifi.
Oh yes.
It has been an increasing issue
No VPN has provided some solid protections for you guys when you're out and about you connected to like coffee shop Wi-Fi
Hotel Wi-Fies and you're checking your banks and all that kind of stuff. That was a blade
That was a blade that went buzz. That's what that was on Wolf Disco
That's I'm just sorry Sam was telling me what was part of the no VPN bundle there. That's why I need to you
In a vacant I didn't want to know Sam. You just saw Alex
One-on-one with him. We chat a lot whilst you're here Sam be quiet. I'm trying to talk to Alex
Okay, you see, you know we had that game of the day. What does production actually say to us? It's now unrepeatable.
Oh no. So am I right in saying that in the bundle it's one year of NordVPN.
Sam, did you say something?
One year of Incogany and what was it, 35 gigabytes of what was it? I didn't hear the last part because the mic was looking at me.
I'm in trouble now. Well, it's in the bundle.
Oh he's coming in, he's coming in, he's gonna come give us grief.
He's gonna throw things at me.
He's gonna throw things at us.
This is not Wormsh approved.
Oh he's got nipple clamps.
Wow, I didn't think they were getting there, it's a later.
Did we reach that?
I thought that was gonna be,
I thought that was gonna be deep phase three territory.
Isn't that 40K for the nipple clamps?
Oh no.
I think Sam's already on the knife edge.
Don't stop throwing stuff at us, we're doing our job.
Hey, Sam, poorly.
No.
Bad Sam!
Oh dear, let us jump back to the prog as they are in on the pool there, but yes of course
do get exclamation mark crab in the chat for the NordVPN bundle, lots of wonderful goodies
before you.
Frago down again! Frago is, uh, I wonder if he's changed a trinket or something.
Hmm, I'd like to see what it is, uh, cause he's in the same place every time, there's
no difference happening there. He is doing the personal spiel. This might make this
next yank really vicious because it is a lot of frangos put you know his evoked
fences they're kicking in here so let's see here it comes three deuce you know
now yep unfortunately going down what's also that are you friend were there's
at me oh no there's the little chucky I get the game oh thank you why cheers what did I do
come on thanks Sam damn it I don't like him oh no oh it's true yeah this is actually terrorism
for other casters not me because he's gonna leave rappers everywhere I won't I clean up after
myself that's a lie that's a shall we look under this table out no no it's
it's appalling it's actually shocking it really is this isn't even mine what is
this is the top of a whipped cream never whipped cream on the couch in like a
week why did you have whipped cream on the couch? don't ask questions yeah found it
I didn't know where it was I found it now. Yeah, it's what were you guys doing over the course of heroic that ended up with whipped cream
It's it was a it was a dark time for us all you squirt in someone's mouth, didn't you? I might have scrushed it in my own
You're making like your own hot chocky
Times are tough these anyway reasons. I've never had one of these I've seen them appetizers. I've never had any reasons
Are they dark
Are we having one?
Don't know why not.
They look like dark chocolate.
Are they going to be bitter?
They are dark chocolate for sure.
Oh, god.
Well, I guess we'll just sit here for an hour.
These are really tough.
Why would you give casters cement sweets?
It's the slowest chocolate known to man.
This is miserable.
Oh, they're all in my teeth now.
This is really nice.
Thank you.
Mike just muting himself and then getting unmuted.
Stop on muting!
You can't tell it to me, Sam's telling me to put your headset back on.
No, he's just refusing.
You've gone too far.
You've gone into the nuclear option of just not putting the headset on in the first place.
Ah damn, they are in another pool. Obviously whatever was causing them grief.
It does sit there forever.
Oh, you've got to unmute.
Now he's muting you.
I feel that there's a lack of synergy going on there in the castle room right now.
We need to reset, okay? We need to reset our mental.
We're here, working on the last boss of the first tier of the war within.
I feel like a blue bubblegum pip.
You did a blue bubblegum watch?
That's not... okay.
Okay, it's very sticky.
Oh, mate, I'm now moving on desperately.
Oh, they're killing the boss, guys.
Look at that spider.
It's getting absolutely mad right now.
I'm gonna be second now.
This is the kill now.
You do know that, right?
My heart is really hard.
It's gonna be immortalized.
Oh, mate.
That's fucked up.
Did you deal with that?
I am still dealing with it.
I chewed it and then realized how much trouble I was in
and then just did my best to make it as small as possible
and just went for it.
So yeah, there's like a full like who the hell would eat them out of choice?
I would if I had nothing to do for the next like three or four hours.
It's literally a hobby.
Yeah, these are full hobby chocolates.
Tomorrow I was going to go fishing, but instead I'm going to eat a pack of reason.
They're actually really nice to taste good.
Other chocolates being available, of course.
OK, so we're going into one of the harder parts of phase four,
Desperately trying to drag this cast back to some sort of
Semblance of sanity as we're going to be having the roots here at the same time as we're spawning these
Four trampolines that they need to take to go over the wave that's going to be coming their way very easy to die here
However generally speaking our deaths will be mainly focused as we're leaving this phase one last trampoline coming in one play
Unfortunately going down that means we're gonna have five stacks this damage coming in is going to be higher than usual
which has already been pretty rough thus far but so far so good as we've only lost one person that being wolf disco
That will we'll be able to res up
Of course losing a dps during this phase not the end of the world as we do do a little bit of saving
Yeah, do after the dragon which is all that damage to getting back all given time to
Sort himself out and not be a case of like oh you rest and immediately a big bombardment of damage
You know land on your face. Of course classic rogue weak aura there. That just says x ddd plus freight ha ha ha
Nice mechanic game. True. Cush actually bothering to go out this time and not get dragged into the middle
Don't bad mouth. That's what he did. Yeah, that's true. That is you're greeting it out there 20% left on this shield
That's gonna be a little closer. We need to keep sending
two one
That is big well both this go one of wipers again dear
I wonder what did happen though this cuz Wolf from obviously on a very sturdy class on the part
part of the fact that they normally wouldn't struggle them because the blades
were done at that point. So honestly it feels like he died during the knock-ups
which doesn't make a lot of sense. And that was Ryzen. I didn't get to see
unfortunately what caused the death there but obviously they are playing this
incredibly tight to the wire. They're going to back up and we're not
going to get chance. We do have a little 20 seconds between falls but
They're rapid pulling now we're all combobulated. Yeah, what to do when they actually pull the boss guys, right?
We've got a five dollar donation in from dreed. Oh, Jesus who says blast furnace because I
In terms of their favorite boss blast furnace because I beat Mike every time fire over how fire was also great
Because Mike was bench so that we could have a good tanks Simon and me and he pretended to have a kid to save
That's what it was. I like that as a student
Are they certainly a couple of squeeze a couple in between?
But we do I know your best and worst bosses, but ideally those not no one cares if you like black happens great
We all agree. It's unsung heroes. I'm really interested
They don't quite get the credit they probably deserve because they weren't that hard
But they're still just incredible fun that you look forward to every week like town goffing. I
Love to tear on goffing as a tank
We came up with some crazy tank builds there to allow our DPS to go
Absolutely bananas on that fight and they appreciate it because they can blast really hard
I came up with a crazy block value bill. Oh, that's not good. That was a bum in the wrong order
Interesting they also might have just been wiping it something went wrong. That's a very quick way of wiping the inside
Yeah, it's actually yeah, sure
We have got one dollar donation in from doughnut despair
It's pretty good. He says all this health I sit so talk and I don't think we've mentioned mythic manner of even once
That must have been one of the most repetitive mythic fights
I ever did smiley face Alex your guides came so slow that year too slow it says that that is Christ
Yeah, I'm getting you've been retired for like a few years now. You're still getting grief
I'm getting grief for a tear that got released eight years ago
Because it's like what classics coming over dude
It was them
That's when I my second year. It was kind of
I was going to have the char there, but it was still an HFC!
Spamming out kids, probably tired to have bacteria.
I was very, very, very happy.
Yeah, man, I don't know if it was a...
It was alright.
Sight.
It was cool, like, taking place on top of like a giant, like on top of the tower.
You could see the area around it.
It was a generally decent fight.
There was a fun thing you could do with the new ring, the legendary ring, where an
ad would spawn.
It was like the hardest thing of the phase, like getting through these ads.
We got to a point in farm where an ad would spawn and you timed the ring just
right there it spawns an instantly dies
the ring exploded on it there's some
silly things like that and it wasn't too
bad of a fight I mean re-farmable yeah
it was cool I can't remember I need to
go back and look at the fight to remember
why I don't like about it it's such a
long time I like if it was kind of like
an average there's nothing wrong with
this kind of fight like all good then
sometimes I can't really remember the
pains of it yeah I think actually
rather than looking at first kill some
of the worst fights I think of are
actually the ones that were actually
just a pain to kill the next
Resolid farming never looked forward to every farm. So mr. Cezine would be right up there
Yeah, that bus was a bit rough absolutely horrendous fights one of the worst for me just constantly changing and shifting
They even had to cool damage. I'm sorry
He got some bolt shark and it got to the point where you weren't allowed to do that mechanic anymore
Because I mean how dumb is that?
Oh, yeah, I think I had a really cool idea behind you
But the way that it was executed unfortunately did miss the mark a little bit
My most hated fight for re-kills was Gehun, but I think one of the kindest things, because you had to have 4 Warlocks and get it all set up, it was impossible to split raid unless you had like 8 Warlocks, like capable Warlocks in your guild, like in all your characters.
One of the kindest things Blizzard did that tier was make it so that boss dropped absolute trash, so no one ever wanted to farm it anyway.
Did we ever re-kill it?
We did re- I think we recalled it maybe once or twice, but then that was it.
Yeah, I can't remember just getting a blow.
I know that was not a good boss to reclaim in any way, shape or form.
It's what it is.
Yeah, I mean, I always love killing the fights at least once.
For sure, if it's a pain, I don't want to do it.
Similar, coming back to Maiden.
Someone's screwing up Maiden.
I really like Maiden because I got to heal it.
They took me in on a Holy Priest.
My priest went from Shadows to Holy for that boss, and I absolutely slapped.
Said one of the few times I actually healed something and did decent. Hey
Hey for me
I was gonna make some my job was to man the entire back row to count for people not getting their orbs
That was my job is to blink across from row to row for whatever the melee didn't catch and just be sort of like
Cleaning up after the kids spill all the milk all over the floor. It's good almost good
Listen to the constant DPS complain because obviously it was a damage buff
was supposed to share. Yep, but somebody would just run and yank them all and nobody else would get
the damage buff and the endless bitching that would go on backwards and forwards. Oh, there you
can see so Wolf Disco actually doesn't take part in the AMZ because he quote-unquote doesn't need it.
A certain amount of people can't go into it because of course as soon as that pull-in happens
it's the same moment that the first tick of the spread damage on you is, happens at the
same time. So if everyone is directly on top of one another you're going to take a huge
burst of damage 400k per player so if they're like five people on top of each other that could very quickly provide proved to be
a lethal so they can understand why not everyone is in that darkness am
No one like one of the tanky ones, which is why it's a shame he died last pull
as one of the ones who's like oh you can stay out you'll be fine obviously covered by other
protections for sure but looking much much better that shield got annihilated there we have a
a lot of the time. All right Echo, we're back. It's been a rough five, six polls, but that's
okay. Let's get back again. They're in good shape. The commentaries has been used, so
we do not have their safety net this time, but hopefully they don't need it until platform
two. We are still probably going to lose that platform two. And hopefully we can clear
it as quickly as we did last time. But one missed poll and this is a game over. It
really is. It's incredibly easy to struggle here as we're going to be going into
to this, yeah, you can see Revvers doing all the damage in the world, slam into the face.
Um, definitely, you'll see him at the moment, 8th from the damage meter, you'll be interested
to see where he ends up after all of this, you may be going to see him go crazy during
that second platform, but a very easy phase to lose the odd occasional person to.
Oooh, Revvers, Azazi has gone down here, they will need, Azazi up when they get
to the next platform, and here we go, it's, it's, it's, it's hard.
And now with all these ads we should be seeing Reves chop although they're not quite in range, he's got E's himself over, I think we've lost Mires as well.
So it's not looking good for Echo right here, obviously as Reves is a DPS he couldn't give a flying whatever about any of the dead raid frames, they're bogged off in a corner somewhere.
Oh, it's Fragger that was dead but unfortunately the portal did indeed explode causing some issues there as the Shadowgate cast going through from that
Enemy causing us a bunch of grief. It was good to get back up
But once again just losing too many people too soon in this phase. Yeah, it's rough
It's very difficult. It's very very difficult
It's something that they just need to do their best to try and improve on
Then we can do that is with their repetitions
But it's good to finally get out the intermission which honestly feels like it's been quite a while
Who have been sat in that fades one? It's only been five six pulls since they have that really good phase three pull
But there's obviously the the chitter chatter happening in between
But they have been much better in the last half an hour of just pulling pulling pulling
It's okay going because they just need to get there now
Like there's as we heard potter say on the comms it was like there's nothing else I can do for you
Now like you just have to do it and there's a certain point and we had that with also a brood keeper
Where they just said it's now on you guys to execute
There's nothing else we can do on the outside that we think of or can think of that's going to make this any easier
It's this hard getting done. We've got a five dollar donation in from
Chris Kecks, I think that's how you pronounce it said what keeps the raid away from actually letting the cast of ads or
At least one alive in phase three for less souls or dots
So in the last phase we got those ads that arrived from this very center
Why don't just keep them alive and keep them kicked is the question that's being asked
largely speaking those ads I believe upon the Nova coming in once the Nova
does contact them that is enough to also set up for the raid wipe so you do
need to do all of them by that point. It is very good at making sure that these guys can not buy past mechanics but an excellent strategy
decision coming in from or suggestion even coming in from Abdul the Noob for
a $10 donation he says have they tried not die? Not yet. I'm sure that is on
the menu. We will pass it on.
Apparently that's strategy number 50.
We're working on strategy number 40 in the moment, so...
One point one.
Um, we have got a 10-dollar donation in from Pooch, who says,
I stopped playing WoW with Legion, but I'm still following the world first race
with excitement. Go, Echo.
Thank you very much, Pooch.
That's very, very kind of you for your donation.
And it's same here, honestly.
I haven't really played WoW seriously since, like,
for Shadlands.
And the race is the only thing that's really keeping me about.
I love it.
I adore it every single time, I love the effort, I love the skills, I'm kind of loving what Blizzard is doing on their end to keep upping the antsy for these guys
Just where you think you've seen it all, they have something new to show you
I really do
The $5 donation in from Dresdas, who says, August the Unmaker can suck a fat one
6 straight weeks of extending lockout prog, 2 nights a week, 3 hour raiding
In hindsight it was a fun fight, but the day I got cutting edge I logged off and didn't log back in for like 3 months
months. Yeah and I think this was okay. I think it was all right. It was okay. I think it got a lot
better when you didn't have to do the immune tech, where like the entire pre-immune, the chains
it is basically just like a pulling the lever on a slot machine and hope for the best. Do you
think that fight would have been infinitely better if like the world, I think it was. I
said at the time, discovered he just leaves someone downstairs for a whole fight idea. I
was doing that. That was my job. What a miserable job, right? We found ways of getting me back
Like we found extra bits of resources to bring me out of that phase do a little bit damage and then go back down
But yeah, it was a bit
Bit boring
Hey, hope it was was it was what it was the class I was playing at the time was trash for that particular phase anyway
So at least I got to play it no, I was playing I think I can't remember what I was playing
I was playing priests around a shadow
No, no, so I logged over to my dh
Oh, I guess so I got to go on and I'll just go do that job because it didn't really matter
they didn't have much gear but phase one and two damage check was like nothing.
Yes, thank you very much for that donation dress. We also got a one dollar donation in from Coyote.
This is time to contribute to the Hellfire Citadel with Fat Boss Alex podcast.
Ali's favourite boss ever was Manoroth. We progressed that boss for weeks then I
hit and then I was hit with a pretty serious family emergency and couldn't play.
They one shot the boss the same day with me gone. Oh so sad. That's a feels bad.
It does happen. Yeah, it does. It does happen. It feels bad right there.
Well, I did just see, and although this is an excellent point in which we can continue to read donations,
I'd prefer to put those in between pools that the players are doing because they are on break.
I would also like to take that break at the same time as them to see if we can get any sort of info from them,
even if it is just a vibe to see how everyone is doing.
I'm also convinced though, a few pools away from doing some mega-pull, I just feel it.
It feels like that, yeah, after you've been at one of these races for long enough, you kind of get a bit of rhythm.
It feels like that is on the card so tell you what we're gonna go for a little bit of break keep your donations coming in
We will read them so don't go anywhere. We'll have a little listen in the wave or with some music
We're back in a sec. Okay, it's a stretch then I guess please under you now
We don't want to interrupt your watching session is right. Yeah, if you want to watch your service
Watching the blocks
BOOM!
What the heck is the planter still?
Welcome back ladies and gents!
Obviously you heard that!
Whoops! There was a thing under the bus and it got me!
Oh it does do that!
It does do that as Ancerek is still putting all these raiders six feet under
and laughing as she does it.
Wormsh says no no no!
No no no!
No no no!
As we are celebrating here is Wormsh Wine Time
as Ancerek is very relaxed right now
as Echo is working through this fight in order to see how it's even tackled in the end.
Yep, there's a lot more to discover today so far. We've had a little bit of a rough time
as we're getting back into it and I think there was, I think it's safe to say, a little
bit of a slump in terms of morale as the players were running into a consistent amount
of problems but listening into the comms there, a good amount of jovialness between
the raiders. They had a nice little break with some healthy snacks that they enjoyed
in the kitchen and covered back with sticks.
They work a couple of sticks with some nice dip.
Very, very nice indeed.
So yes, coming back and being in that sort of strong position,
hopefully mentally, a little bit of a reset needed
to go back in on a fight that is incredibly good
at wearing you down.
If you find yourself in a position,
this is a great place to have a death spiral
for your raid group.
So look forward to this on mythic,
because it's gonna be a rough one.
Echo doing everything they can to slam through this boss.
I've been working on it since the early hours.
Oh, not early hours, about eight o'clock this morning.
They've just been pushing through as best as they can.
So we're going to be with you, me and Mike, for the next two hours at least, before I think it's Jesse and Jordan later on today.
We're going to be walking you through, hopefully, some amazing pools, because Mike, you were saying just before we had our break,
you can feel that at least in terms of the normal cadence of the raid, the normal rhythm of the pools, that you feel something is coming, no?
Yeah, I mean, every raid group that you're following the race to will first be Method, Liquid, Echo.
You'll always see these slumps happen for a couple of hours, and then some leaps put back in.
And I think the weird kind of there judging by the atmosphere in the room judging by the atmosphere when they're on the break is like
Okay, because these guys have obviously been through this a lot and when you are rating this many hours it does happen
But they also know how to get themselves out of it
And it's where they heavily lean on the more morale focused players that will be your Jinji's and your Mira's who
Will ever the optimists of like let's get it. Let's get it done
And as we came in I actually thought I heard them like come on let's go
but it turned out to be a very loud sneeze.
It was an incredibly loud sneeze.
I believe it was a sneeze because someone did say,
bless you, so it could also be a little bit of a troll.
But this upcoming part of the phase
is one of the parts that they have been struggling the most
as we're going to be dealing with the toxins.
Oh, no, this part isn't necessarily the worst.
It's the next overlaps with the four toxins,
with the roots into the blades into the jumps.
It's like, oh my goodness, so hard to keep on top of it.
The difficulty of this phase, when they do it properly,
it looks like, yeah, of course, this is easy.
And then when they fail it's like, well aren't they doing it like they did before when they made it look easy?
Oh lord, they're coming!
Oh, there we go, you've got to dodge a lot the other way.
Right, right, right, down.
It's far from easy, of course. Cannex now on that boomkin moving away from the feral, big, sad, unfortunately,
but they are preferring the, probably the boomkin damage of the last phase of all the spread out adds,
starfire and all the dots, certainly a starfall, excuse me, and all the dots coming into great use there.
Unfortunately, you do have Wolf go down but it is at a point where we can res them and here comes the four new toxins
The world markers are due to be placed down any moment
Or not we're just gonna go YOLO on this one. There we go. There's the world markers making sure that we're all happy and safe
dealing with these sets of
Roots that we're just
Cheasing our way out of whilst dodging all of these blades incredibly difficult to do so whilst making sure you get back towards your trampoline
There's two so far. There's a third and there's the fourth everyone alive so far
But here comes a crazy amount of raid damage in four seconds. That's fortunately
May voca going down there very easy to do at that point
But I think they're gonna keep pushing through there are some places down
So yeah, there's a little bit of defensive loss
But ultimately should be able to push through this and move on obviously losing your DPS during a shield break
where DPS matters not ideal but also not the end of the world. They have been
sort of holding their DPS a little bit when it's going all well in order to
break the shield. You can actually see that percentage that light blew a bar in
the middle of your screens with 30% remaining. That is the second yank in.
So they need to kill us before the third. So let's see how they get on
here as it's going to start casting very soon. Another 10% to go. There's the
yank. They have five seconds to finish it off. They should be fine but we'll do the lose.
I wonder if he wasn't rebuffed or something on those lines in time. So this is a big loss. I think that's also in one of the two groups is going to be two DBS now.
I wonder if this guy is probably kicking himself right now. He knows this is not what needs to happen. You don't need to tell these players is this is not what we need right now.
We need you consistently. We need you on your feet and it makes it infinitely harder on these platforms to do this without the entire raid alive, but not necessarily impossible.
Dying like that is impossible. Yeah, that would make it very hard.
Damn.
Damn, what did I do?
You could have timed that better if I told you it was going to happen.
The possible, that part of impossible was the thing that killed them there.
That is an incredible point.
Look at the self-floor.
That's not you.
I can't actually. The gap is not big enough.
I don't know if you should take the blame for that, there's no weight, no how, there's the boys are laughing, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, oh, dear, oh, Jesus Christ, oh, Jesus!
We're just going to move away from that.
That is pop!
The plosive of the pee was enough to set off the portal.
I need a few of pop filter of this, right?
So let's jump into some donations because you guys have been incredibly generous so many of them coming through that
We're gonna rush on through them but beforehand huge shout out to never be down for wanting winning the Nord VPN bundle
Oh, dude. Congratulations. I showed you trich DMs are open bro or it's not
Not gonna work. Yeah, it's gonna be rough. Yeah
What are you wiping so we got a $10 donation from do boot a decker
He says not exactly a spicy take to say black and is my favorite raid boss
But getting catching edge the week before nerf after weeks of baiting fire in the corner of p2 was too satisfying
Melly gang rise up the jobs on that fight were crazy
Dude read our first kill of mythic black hand had our main tank hoovering his room
At the same time as we killed it and every time he keyed up you could just say
And even after we killed it, he's like cheering, I think it was noops, one of our players just
cheers and I was like, he's still cleaning.
How can you clean for so long?
The video of that kill is so hilarious to me, it's so funny.
We got a five dollar donation in from Runcar who says, shout out to my fellow Swedes, thank
you very much Runcar, we got a one dollar donation in from Thraps who says, no gnomes,
they should all be sent to the Callows.
Come on, Norm's a cool dude.
Your descending to the gallows was a little bit more Victorian grotesque than I was expecting.
I don't think they can fit in gallows. I think you have to use something like a cigar glue or something.
Oh, God! That's so cute!
Norm's a roommate, getting killed by Norm is always funny. You can't feel bad.
We got a 5-Bell donation from Raz88. He says,
I don't know why, but Huntsman Ultimore from Nathria has a special place in my heart.
That's a cute little fight. I think as an early boss there was enough room for some personal plays and stuff for that to work out.
Yeah, I could see that. I always liked that my hunter because you could line up your cooldowns perfectly for mega ricochet through them all with the
Rain of arrows coming down. You could do a massive amount of pad and cleave on that point. I
Like that. I like that good call once more tomorrow not hard nice and fun bit of a blast got a damage amp
Approved hell yeah, not the set the one after that what the hell was that guy called the big colossus dude?
Oh, we had to sort out the different yeah, you got the health debuff and all that wasn't a big fan
Oh gosh
Hungering devourer perhaps well said I believe that is correct. There we go
That's instead of knowing anything useful such as life skills
Alex knows the names of bosses from tears that he didn't even enjoy that much
It's difficult
There we go and back in between the blobby bobs as they make their way onto here
So now we're going to get into the tricky bits, well trickier, as they have three of the toxins to deal with, as well as the blades.
We have a quick look at the logs. It is the blades that is mostly killing people.
It's hard for us to show you the POV. We're doing our best, the production is doing their best, but it's random who ends up in the hell spots.
But somebody always does, where you just cannot seemingly find a pixel to stand in.
It's stuck in there. Oh, Gingy. Gingy, for some reason, not having his invis available to himself there.
Fortunately, one of the blades is not spawning on in there, there's a bit of R&G on our favour.
Look at that, look at what this goes!
It's like I just stand in this little bit and then like, how are the warlocks dying?
Well, it's because that happens sometimes.
Yes, sometimes that happens, because they have to stay in this spot because as soon as you get declared tangy in Echo, that means you get nothing.
Potters like, well, you're tankies and you're getting nothing.
It's on my spreadsheet there, look after yourself.
Yep, I'm like...
apparently looking at this, cross referencing it, and checking the eyes, it is GoFySelf, there you go!
You can see the movement there, Wolf had to do, Wolf playing out of his mind, and even still occasionally,
just making it incredibly difficult to get through, you're going to see them spawning all of those routes very close to one another,
because they do spawn webbing, and on this mythic difficulty, getting into the intermission with as much of the room clean as possible
possible is going to be key to making sure you have enough space to get him through that
intermission as each dragon is also spotting the weapon. So that's why they're being so
precise in comparison to Heroic mode or Normal mode, whereas normally you end this phase with
just a tiny little pizza slice, we want to end the intermission with that tiny pizza slice.
Yeah, I mean the biggest this fight asks you of normal is not to get dragged in.
That's kind of it. So to be able to do one knock for the whole raid in the knockoff,
you see they have four to do on this fight. But now going so low. Now got hit by the
toxin there I think I think he got clipped by it so they will be able to
resin that's fine as long as they don't get blasted in the face they're gonna
wait until after this.
Yep two additional dead here that might be a three they wrote unfortunately is
what it is it's a very very difficult phase things can go so wrong on that
last overlap that might be a little bit give the boss a hug.
For what purpose Mike?
Why are we here?
What reason do we push on to the brave knight spider food for Anzurek?
Or Narubian food, which apparently is a different thing.
Who would have guessed, right?
Insects.
Going back to our wonderful donations that you've been sending in, we've got a 10 dollar
donation from Toby1Kanobi, just his toes.
Is that your favourite or worst raid boss, his toes?
Yep, toes.
In Alphanus, Toes have been responsible for some really, really bad wipes as people have been kicking out.
Some wigglers, but they've been kicking out their own.
I liked Toby Bryant that was in yesterday.
I think I'd see the same guy who's just been with all these Toe names.
Yeah, the amount of unplugged PCs from Toes is surprisingly high over my time playing games.
Nothing like having a cable between your Toesers.
We got a $1 donation in from Fowdo, perhaps, who says,
favorite is still crush firehand in gruel's lair as being a major tanking and major domo back in vanilla as a
Holy disc priest keep up the great job always a pleasure having at the echo broadcast as a podcast in the background whilst working
I'm gonna provide some good background from you both of those bosses are bosses that I do not have any sort of
I know who major domo is
But do so crush firehound was I've got a great story of course
was the one of the ads on the High King Mologor fight, where you had to fight the High King
himself and his ogre minions. You would have liked this fight actually, because you had
one of the ads had to be tanked by Moonkins or Hunters.
Okay.
Which is really interesting. You had another ad that had to be tanked by Warlocks by enslaving
his pets and having the fell hunters that he spawned tank him.
Right.
And then you had another one that was tanked by a mage, and then another one
that was normal tanked that you could just blast down. You had to kill all of
those things before you then went onto the High King itself.
We had Roe requirements there.
Really cool for a 25 man raid which is what we'd like to see this year.
Yeah you likely have them, it was pretty good because the one that was the Moonkin one polymorphed
the tank, whoever was high on the throne obviously you can't be polymorphed in the Moonkin
mode at least at the time.
So it was really cool.
So we had our main mage class leader, Tank Krosh.
He went out, he farmed Mr. Noobs.
an excessive stamina set because obviously he wasn't really going to be
damaging that fight and the whole point was that you spell stole the you had to
he did massive magical damage where he had a magical damage reduction shield so
you would spell steal that gain aggro on it and you had the damage reduction and
you just kept it up so it was a nice nice little mage tank thing so he worked
really hard and it was actually the final ad that you would kill so you
would have this crush take it off to the side by the mage they would
just spell steal they would barely require any healing and they would tank it
off until everything else was dead, then you would all switch to this. As that happened,
the first time we ever killed High King Malgo was the only time we ever made it to the Mage
Add, because the adds were the dangerous part, not the boss himself, right? So we killed the
Warlock first, then we killed the other guy, and then we killed the Minkin tanked one,
and then it was like, right, everybody go and kill the Mage one, and everyone sprinted
over. My brother also played a Mage, and he was playing with us at the time.
So my brother walks over to that, it's the first time he's attacked this add,
clearly at this point like many raiders has not paid attention to anything that's
happening outside of kill the current target and then on comms and we have this
recordics it was our first kill my brother goes dudes dudes this guy's got a
buffy spell stealer I've got it now and watched in horror I was playing
polypalder at the time and I spammed the crap out of noobs because obviously
he's still at aggro and no one got a shield and we saw that's not good as
he died and my brother tanked it we were like you just need to keep
spell stealer and I was like, okay, just put it so I don't spend the entire prog tank you
can add.
But you didn't even get to tank it?
No, you didn't even get to tank and kill it.
That's so painful.
It was pretty grim.
But I love watching back that video, I still have it saved, and I watch it back and I go
ha ha ha ha.
What was the boss before Imperator Margot in Heimel?
Do you remember the, it was the Arcane guy.
Wasn't that also bossier to spell steal and tank?
Oh my going mad.
I swear there was some weird mage job on that or maybe I'm talking nonsense.
There was one in Black Temple, the Illidari Council had Mage Tank there.
Maybe I'm talking nonsense.
I don't think so, no.
There's something.
I think I'm thinking the right boss, it was the Arcane one.
Yeah, it's like the Ogre who was like a pastor.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cool rag, apparently.
Yeah.
I thought there was some weird Mage job on that.
Maybe I can't remember much about it.
It's so long ago.
It wasn't a fight.
It wasn't a particularly engaging fight either, but that boss died very quickly.
I think that was a lot of them.
Yeah, I think Heiml had one of the coolest first bosses.
Yeah, I made you don't know same I healed major don't want my priest one thing I liked about that was raid leader at times
I took it upon myself
To solo heal the tanks you pulled the boss off to the side because obviously you didn't kill the boss till last on major
Don't know if I you didn't even kill him. He just gave up right when you
Yeah, you opened the chest he was like you've beaten me you may be able to face the fire lord blah blah blah
I'm good. You're in trouble now. I'm telling daddy
after you killed his ads but yeah I buggered off to the side of the room
with two tanks I think and just solo healed those two and a lot of fun as
clicks has gone down he has immediately sent the anchor though it's an important
defensive cooldown got to get it on CD they are regularly having deaths at
this point though like it's it's never the same person oh god just as he pops
This is cool down, yeah he's just like
God damn it dude, just sent my cooldowns and now you're gonna be dancing all over the place
Usually I'm fine here
That'll be one of those things that like you know for last 50 poles every time I pop my CA here
It's totally fine and now I do it and now I've got to run around all over the place
As he runs away because he has an important job next I believe he is the popper
Yep, it's gonna be blowing up that purple zone the one right next to the boss gonna be oh
Oh, last minute there.
Yeah, two last minutes I think.
Yeah, I think that's pushed them away from it quite far.
Unfortunately losing two players,
we will be able to battle as one of them
with Flanna hopefully coming back up.
We will not have Mini up for the rest of this,
not actually playing an augmentation of our D.K.
Not particularly useful as a name, Mini-Aug,
but it is what it is,
as we're gonna be pushing through this into the shield.
We're gonna do everything that we can to keep this going.
It is an incredibly difficult phase for Echo right now.
They've been struggling a lot to get him through this intermission cleanly
So here's hoping that even with the loss of mini there will still be able to do it
Very difficult to get through this part though. Yeah, he can stand still he ignores the dragon entirely
It's a lot of damage to the shield generally. Yeah, three percent left. They've got one more set of blocks coming really soon
Yeah, this is gonna be tight. It's gonna be very very tight. So I think there's cross for Echo here
three percent left on the shield
Yeah point to a way yeah, cuz a lot of them can't deal great damage during that phase
We need to save it. You see to save for the ads right?
Well, you haven't yeah, you can't do it like it's it's up to people like me
You literally can ignore all that excessive movement and dragon and also like completely nullify a lot the damage that comes in in that phase
To do the damage there. So yeah, unfortunately jump back to your donations as we're waiting for a new ball to come in
It's you guys have raised over 31,000 now
So thank you so so much within another 4,000 we got the narrow bar coming up which was medics
Specialists I'll take it on yep, so with Mike's extensive mixology a while record made the Lord have mercy on us then
We do reach that 4,000 mark we're going to be going through a series of different mocktails
potentially
Drink them I suppose well apparently some of them are cursed and it's like part of the way. There's some
Oh, wait, okay. I don't need to make them
No, no, no, no, I think he's going to send you the recipes.
Oh, and he's not here anymore, so he doesn't have to face his own consequences.
Yeah, basically.
Classic. Thanks, medic.
Toxic as hell.
OK, so if you want medic to, medic's ghost to live on, he's also not dead.
Where is he showing me?
Get land. I saw him in chat.
Or is he? Could be anybody.
It could be anyone.
Yeah, it could be anyone.
Medic lost somewhere in Germany.
Do you have you seen this man?
We need a missing poster of medical
No, we need the
Shot that the bean in it. It's a basco bean shot. That's a quality medic picture
We need that one. It's a lot. He ate a lot
He could he certainly put himself feet first diving into the deep end of some of the debauchery that has
There's a cur sometimes on the echo stream.
Or in the case of no car.
I mean, literally, you know, making lives better for children
structing hospital with disease.
It's fine.
Oh, it's so worth.
Again, to the people who keep sending messages like,
Mike, you don't have to do these things.
Like it's fine.
A cake or a hot chip.
We're OK.
Hot chips are quite nice.
Thank you for your concern, but I'm perfectly fine.
And if anything, it makes some of my audience
have new memes to throw at me.
So there you go.
And in chat.
The audience here as well.
And Wormsh.
Wormsh.
Wormsh.
We've also got a bean touchdown about now.
We do have the beans to see to go along with the wonderful track
Low Wave has made an association with Echo, including
your samples chosen on Twitter.
We now have the beans banger to go along with the race to
world first.
That's on Spotify.
It is on Spotify.
Go and listen to it just for the beans.
Go find it.
It's good.
Thank you for your help with that one.
It's absolutely wonderful.
Drop the beans.
Drop the beans.
But Echo pushing on.
We just need they need and I feel it coming one just exceptional Paul to pull them out of this funk and they are
For sure there are never a rat for sure going on right now
Yeah, they need one just great Paul to just fire them up once again, and it could be at any point guys
So give them his praise
Send your energy
Yeah, send Blalatath to guide them through this because they need it right now
They would definitely probably
Probably, but I think definitely hoping to be
really mapping out phase three by this point. Yeah, they've only had a few pools
that have made it. Get out of the way! Vying for space! Stop doing that!
They're always in the melee like move dude! It's um you're entirely right though
and they've got so many good phase three ideas. They match to see a lot of what
Liquid managed to achieve, seeing those five ad spawn, getting through that
second portal set that Roger was cooking all night mainly on phase three
strategy and they haven't been able to implement it yet. They've been talking a lot about phase
3 strats so when they get there they know what they're doing but we've been so long since we
managed to see it that I'm a little bit concerned that by the time we do it might be a little bit
cooked. Let's find out as it seems like we're quite far away from the previous green puddle
but we're going into the 4 set here as opposed to it's going to go towards the middle. This
is one of the roughest parts of the entire phase. Pain arrived. Here we go now. Beautiful!
That was really clean. That's not like we didn't take any damage
That was I wonder if they've shifted the cool down back because they a hundred percent changed something to make it harder than
So it's how's gone down. You see how close he is to the edge. They can see is uh, yeah
Little goblin body just on the very very edge unfortunate there just getting dragged a little bit too close
And I think not to get in here by a puddle
That's such a you know
It's such a shame to be going into this phase and having those sorts of mistakes considering how well
We managed to transition into it, but we will continue to push on through
We'll be able to get narco up in phase two and the DPS have been alive for long enough
I do believe we'll be able to make it through the shield who want this shield to be sub 10%
Well, there's such can be a little bit tight
Let's see if they were to push through it 5% left on the shield 3 seconds left. No. Yeah, we're good
You're not very good. Oh, no, it was a bite. Yeah, we're good. I mean we're good to go to some donations
Feels like a little bit of greed to got them there
Being hit by puddles just not being too far away like it's one of those where I'm sure Skype is
Reminders like if you just don't die with the shield is nothing
We've got a tender donation in from Sidonian. It's a lovely name
He says some people might not like this. Here we go hot take but agromar in Antorus
I really love the tightness of controlling the ads with grips and bringing a ton of knockbacks
Oh, you monster. That fight was rough. It was a rough. You clearly didn't play the blood
DK. You had to manage the bleeding ads. I played Shadow on that fight. So you had me
do it. I did it in the last guild. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It came to your guild and it
was like, you've got a DK. Oh, yeah. I remember. Because you came in as Boomkin and you
was like, oh man, I hate that role and move. I was mage then. Yeah, we're just
building the guild up so I was just like well someone needs to control these ads
Mike do you mind logging over?
I think I said to you first that oh god I don't have to do that anymore in that last guild
I was doing it all the time and I got there and you're like
well I remember when we made that guild though I was just like our very first raid
we'll just see how far we can go maybe do a little bit of heroic we like got to
Aggrammar on mythic and I was like oh okay well I haven't got a comp set up for this
guy so let's see what we can make
are you absolute animal?
nobody likes Aggrammar
Yeah, it was a bit of a weird fight where you wanted to bring 5 rogues post immunity time
just to soak those things.
It was a weird fight, but I can understand that when it's done correctly that it does
feel like you've achieved something great.
Sometimes when a fight is difficult and irritating to fiddle out, but once it clicks and the
group can do it consistently, that can be quite a nice feeling, even if it wasn't
a nice process to get to.
What I'm saying is...
Any more fences you want to sit on?
That was such a jodin' take.
Yeah.
You know what? I hate it. But it's S tier. Because I can see how people like it. That's right.
Yeah, I really don't like it, but it's good. It's really good. Yeah, that's S plus plus actually.
I actually like that fight because I could do some damage on my Shadow Breasts.
That's true. Shadow Breasts can't park it.
Yeah, because you just padded perma.
Yeah, I remember on melee saying this is actually the worst fight of all time.
Because I'm running around doing all the grips and then you do it in between,
and then you have to do the mask grip and blah, blah, blah.
And if you didn't do it right, it just wipes.
but all the melee were like, so, yeah, this fight for us is,
we attack the boss, then we run away from the boss,
and then we attack the boss again.
Yep.
And then we have to sit and watch as all the rage
goof it all up.
Peak raid design.
Thank you very much for that Sidonian,
though we are going through your-
Zubo, this time!
Roll the dice, place your bets!
Oh man, it's rough.
We just need to have everyone kind of locked in,
it feels like at the moment,
it feels like everyone's activating at different points
and it's leading to a certain amount of inconsistency
We really don't want it's just one of those things we've made sometimes. Okay, can you can just hit strange
I just want to end as
And the funk as soon as possible it meets the end as well because liquid, you know
They're gonna be coming back in a few hours time, you know, maybe about what four hours or so
They're gonna start pulling and they have had an amazing day yesterday. They got so so far through the fight
right so with
That kind of breathing down your neck. It's gonna be incredibly that sort of pressure
right at your right on your back it's gonna be hard to deal with so they've
got to they've got to get together well whilst we are waiting for them to get
into the fight properly start seeing some phase two start seeing some phase
threes more donations from you guys as we have got a $50 donation from Domi
Pansi who says as someone working in medicine chari... medicine charities
like this put a smile on my face love to see it here is also my transmog
I'd like you to rate it. We can't do that just yet. So but that is something that we cannot do prog because we're obviously back and forth
They're already like pulling again. Yeah, and we don't want to necessarily say oh, yeah
We'll do your one and then other people send theirs in and we won't get to them in time
So do apologize for that. It's very very generous for your donation and we might be able to look at that in the classroom
Yeah, it's not the same with your pictures. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The puppets will follow. Yeah
So thank you very much for that dummy and we've also got a tender donation from Ryan. This is I haven't played Wow in a long time
I'm a Final Fantasy 14 player, but it's amazing watching these races and how long it goes on for
I suppose early mythic is comparable to ultimates in 14 rather than savage in terms of how long it takes
I would say the first four bosses are
Like if you're talking about Final Fantasy difficulty terms
They're like very similar to the first boss of a savage tier
It does kind of ramp up in the same way
But the later bosses are probably more difficult than the last boss of a savage tier on average
Yeah, so like think of it as there's eight of these sometimes ten sometimes more instead of just the set for the game
Yeah, so the last boss here is kind of like doing a few phases of ultimate
You can think of it doing it in that show in terms of difficulty not actually the difficulty like a very very different like although
It's like an MMO and you're fighting things in a group like rain
Those things people an apples to apples comparison. It's impossible. Yeah, it's really is difficult comparison
But I think that's the easiest way of looking at it, if you're looking at it completely from a Final Fantasy XIV player,
is that it follows that same sort of savage mark, but it goes beyond the normal savage tier towards the end of it.
Not Arcadian though.
Arcadian did fall over.
It's actually a really fun tier.
Yeah, very fun. People really enjoyed the fact that they could clear the latest savage raid in FF in a couple of weeks and then go on with the day.
Very true. Got a $25 donation in from Nath, who says,
The worst boss ever has to be Heroic Sharafear.
So, so long.
Good call.
On the other hand, Mythic Artificer from Nathria was a ton of fun as a hunter, barely a second
to relax and always a lot of close calls to the seeds and ghosts and all of the goodies.
The first part of that is correct, that was a long fight.
Anyone who says Mythic Artificer is anything but abhorrent, a stain upon the otherwise
wonderful record of raiding. I don't want to besmirch you too much but there is no way you really
understand how that fight works because it's awful. You don't find this baseline.
Baseline, the fight works well, the spell curing, ridiculous. Absolutely. But awful. If you have
the same version of the fight every single time, I actually really like the portals and the ghosts,
you're entirely right and moving the seeds around. Well the speaker was a hunter who did
the seeds and the poles, getting that debuff when you had to run really far out on your
own and stay out there and you couldn't get healed of just terrible design.
Yeah, there's a lot of things wrong with it, but thank you enough. We do agree.
Sharafear was a little too long and they haven't had a fight that long ever since that point.
Sharafear gave me the longest fight.
I mean that was a fight so long you had to wipe once to get the buff to come back in.
I mean what a stupid fight.
Well, it's one of the... I guess you could argue it was like almost a little bit of an example of a door boss in a way.
Kind of, yeah, kind of. Yeah, in the first way. I mean, what?
And also the second phase was so long and just so uninteresting.
They could have caught half of that vinyl phase out and jumped straight into having many more adds, just lowered the boss HP instead of it being like one, two, three, four, five.
I do remember the kill of that very exciting but only because of how much of a marathon it was to get through.
Yeah, not fun.
So we've got a five dollar donation in from Lottie and TopBanana.
So he says hi Mike Alex Jordan and all the casting team. It's been brilliant as always come on echo
Kick that spider into touch much love to all from Debs and Phil. Thank you so so much
Thank you very much for your very generous. So they should kiss. Yes big kiss
But we've got a five dollar donation in from not them
He says the echo race stream is the best gaming event for me every time can't agree with you more best casters and greeting
to the whole crew who make this possible also to the players echo the fighting
heart yeah thank you so so much Nocturne if you can see from the camera the guys
are taking that quick go and slap yourself in the face break that's probably
needed like yo get your head in gear boys this is this isn't working we got a
$1.13 donation from flintess and flint sorry I think this is probably more
for you high princess fechtao in zee g those old group was my favorite boss I
I fondly remember never getting past the cow age 13, trying to sync the mobs on dial up
internet using a 480x320 CRT with 90% of the screen being ray frames and add-ons.
High pre-sus the car, is that bat?
Hey, I honestly, I couldn't be able to help you.
If it's bat, agreed.
Um, yeah, not fun.
My first ever raid was Zalgirub, and it was like, Loz was in a raiding team.
I was too young.
I didn't really know what was going on in the game, and I got invited to go
along through Zolgra 25 and we cleared the whole place and a sword dropped to the end, I was on my
hunter sword dropped to the end and I was really really upset because I didn't get it.
With that I've been the two hunter. I think so. Yeah so I uh... But I was I was like 11 and a pug
that they were using to just like fill out the group and I was furious I didn't understand.
You're the world breaker. Yeah it's a great weapon actually and I got uh nearly
ousted as being raid leader of my guild because as a warrior I passed that to a hunter and I
I did it. So I wasn't showing loot favoritism to myself and everybody the girl was like, what are you doing?
And I was like, well, it's, you know, I'm trying not to, I'm looting, master looting everything.
And I think it was fair. It's like, that it's just so dumb. Like, just make sure you take your stuff because we're not happy with you making decisions like that.
But also interesting, if it is the Bat Boss, I'm thinking of the trashly, the standard graphical is the Tiger Boss.
Oh, the Tiger boss. Yeah, that was a miserable fight. It was just cleave fiesta. And then you could just get overwhelmed
Yeah, but yeah, but was back. It's good. That's right the bat had the trash before it
I
Because nobody had any good graphics. Yeah, of course you turn off a lot of stuff to play and there was a I think it was the blizzard
You had to turn projected text is on or you couldn't see at all that the trash
Oh, this would be dying to invisible mechanics. Maybe like I'm dying to blizzard and there's nothing here
or it might have been the poison on the floor and then it turned out is like this whole mechanic was happening that was
completely invisible
to the raid kind of kind of dumb
Kind of the blizzard implemented a mechanic that was completely non-functional if you didn't have this option
Visible that would murder you. Yeah, I think the blizzard we've got a lot better
It's not perfect still even in the most current rates here, but I think they've got a lot better at making it
So things are visible
Obviously on Brute Twister, I think a bit of a whoops was made with the Swirlies being the same color as the
the I-Core in the last phase with the
Goo going across the room, but generally speaking it's a lot easier to be able to see things nowadays praise the Lord as you can see our
resident feral druid here
in wolf form part feral druid part enhancement all rogue and
At least sitting upright which is a rarity for Kush normally taking full advantage
Maybe you should leave that lab Titan. Although Chris has been fine for a
It's absolutely completely random. It's a dice roll. Oh, yeah getting attacked here
Oh, it's not like one guy's like full trolling all the time or anything like that. It's just rough
It's just there's a lot going on. It's very difficult
It is very very difficult and if they need to all lock in in order to make this happen over there because I mean yesterday
Yeah, they were in they were going to intermission and to P3
I can't forget how Jesse put it out there, but within the hour it was like 45 minutes
we spent doing that and only 15 minutes we spent like with Phase 1 wipes.
Exactly the opposite in the last three hours or so, where we haven't seen the intermission
now for a good 10 pulls or more.
It feels like it has been a while, at least being able to see Phase 3 has been a long
time going, now incredibly low, but managing to recover there just at the last moment
as we're going into the roughest part of this entire phase.
Just trying to survive as the raid damage comes in in two seconds
and having to dodge all these blobs at the same time.
Everyone's staying alive for now, but far from free
as this first yank is going to be coming in,
dragging all the players towards the boss.
Two players going down as they went too close.
The evulters.
Oh, man, that is sad.
It is what it is.
We are going to get a battle res up
and we're going to keep on going at this point.
We will have a res available for Fraggo later.
Here comes the second pull-in. Got to make sure that we truly are going far enough away, just managed to survive it this time.
The boss's shield is getting annihilated. They've got all the time in the world to slow down in damage, why it wouldn't be cool, but no screw it.
We're just going to push on through about five seconds earlier than we usually do. Hopefully that doesn't affect our CD's too much, and we're going to be heading over to this Phase 2 ad.
Yeah, so, I mean, it seems to be, if we cast there nothing but Doom and Gloom, they do better, so it's probably likely they're going to wipe here.
As they get into this area, they're going to miss a portal and get annihilated by these stars travelling across the room.
Another thing they're going to screw up is probably not being able to use this knockback properly to go to the first platform.
Something that is, you know, it's pretty easy to do, but you know what Echo likes.
They're probably going to screw up. Here's the second. Well, they managed to do it, but it's just luck at this point.
At this point, no. What's going to happen is they're going to get dragged in a second. They're going to just completely goof it.
You're gonna see the entire rage just dragged off the edge. They're not even gonna try really
It's gonna be really weird
They're gonna leave their webs in the worst possible places so that anybody who then uses those portals is just immediately going to die
Now you can see someone coming through there and exploding with their debuff
It wasn't actually a mechanical failure, but unfortunately can't it's just going to go down
This is the hardest part bloodlust has already been popped bloodlust. Yeah, it's completely on CD
I think they use it at a earlier point
so this is going to be incredibly difficult to get through this platform.
As, yeah, you're going to start to see people slowly but surely, unfortunately,
timing out, we've got five seconds left on this shield, still 20% on it,
and I believe the cosmic apocalypse is going to take Echo and throw them into the Abyss.
It didn't, but enough players died having to play riskily in order to get to that point.
At least we saw Parsi's submission and got to the second platform.
Oh, God! Yeah, it's a nice little boost,
not as far as we'd want it to get.
The anti-Carser curse, sort of working.
I think we should just go.
I think that we should sit and just play another game entirely and then come back in like an
hour.
Of course the Caster Mario Kart tournament is starting in about five minutes.
I was going to say, he's fancy like playing a little bit of Mario Party or you know, I've
never played Mario Party.
I've never played Mario Party either so that'll be a fun thing for us to explore
together.
I've always had the issue with Nintendo games is that I don't know enough people
who have Nintendo's to play that game.
I grew up as a PlayStation good. I had like a Gameboy but we didn't have an N64 so I missed out on the Wii.
I had an N64 but I was a lonely loser who smelled like death and looked like death and so I had no friends.
So we got really good at GoldenEye.
Ah, so so much has changed.
Yeah, I mean this this area of time I've got a friend.
Aw, I can't wait to meet them.
Yeah, me too.
Just random shade. Out of nowhere. What happened today Alex? I don't know, I just thought I'd be spiteful.
Oh, I've got a pen pal, but I'm pretty sure he lives apparently the same address as me, so I think it's just better.
Oh, that's a pretty way back.
Oh, saddest timeline. We've got a three-doll donation in from Dave again, literally says Dave again.
He says, can we get another episode of Tales of Hellfire with Alex? Let's say about Shadow Lord Iska.
Iska. Do you remember that fight, the bird boss? We had to throw the little eye round.
Yeah, we tossed the chakrams.
Was that the first... Hang on, I need to change this for a second.
Go on, Al.
Oh, um, actually it's a question to you. Do you remember any boss before that where you had
like a bouncing chakram-style mechanic jumping between like three people?
Because we have that quite often now with like Ramornia, we've had that with Sikran
during this where like it would take a distinct path, it'll bounce between and
then eventually go back to the boss in that sort of way, now the boss is stashing.
Have we had that before?
Maybe that's like a first thing that I possible did I think it was
Maybe try I think to the burning crusade
Stand by as we go back through I am cycling through my encyclopedia right now. I don't think of anything immediately
Yeah ricocheting abilities from the boss. Don't think so. Yeah, so they got that might be something about
Chalot iska maybe
One thing I do remember about the intermission phase is that you could actually damage the boss during it and they didn't want you to do that.
There was a thing at one point where you could, because you would get like windsblown at you something, but some class they could pop the legendary ring and then jump using a movement ability to hit Iska and kill them with the legendary ring whilst they were out there.
Oh, and they saw that?
Yep, it was a stupid thing we did during farm. The boss fell out of bounds and we never got the loot.
Well it's funny, it's very funny.
Yeah, that's at least sight that I remember.
It could have been a dream.
Thank you very much, Dave again, really do appreciate it
and that's the end of my podcast for how far I sit now.
But now, if you would like a story about any of the bosses
that have ever died in World of Warcraft, feel free to...
Between us we might be able to cover it.
I think so.
Between me and Al is a little bit of a lot of death.
Yeah, that's not our fault.
It just seems to follow me.
We've got a one doll donation in from Schematic,
who says, Hi, Florenspector, it's me, the rat.
But not just any rat. I'm a mank. Internet cable destroying. Water tank tampering rat.
I'll see you soon. The worst guarantee. I'll be home probably next week unless there's
something really society hiding at the back of this boss.
Chances are there's a lot of junk in this boss's trunk. Let's say that.
Well, that's our secrets are kept. Yes indeed. But hopefully my office is fine.
reason I don't know if we refer to the rat 36 minutes ago but there's another rat like
donation from knuckles or for a $5 this is hello Mike it's me the rat you told me the
race would either be three days or 10 days that was 100% you that said that not me so
I expect the boss dead today or is that based on your calendar that has summer actually
happening in winter and 2024 is actually going to be in 2036 warham a song warham a
Summer still has a chance. You're still in the middle of warhammer summer. Yeah
This it's summer summer look summer somewhere things came up
It's been non-stop a
We have a 10 dollar donation, thank you very much for that knockers. We've got a 10 dollar donation in from babe
He says genuine from the bottom of our hearts. We have never seen the boys this well ever
We know that they are looking for that one place where they see it's doable
We can see it they can see it. We just want them to get it done. Oh screw you
So there's context for this tale. I can't remember which race it was
But I got a message from Roger Brown
Yeah, I was not casting as I was an online race whichever one it was and I got a message from Roger Brown saying
The guys could really do with like a motivational speech, right?
I said, do you want to join TS and give them a motivational speech?
I was like, that's hilarious.
No, not really.
Like obviously that's a funny joke.
You're like, no, seriously.
I was like, no, no, I'm not doing that.
You're trolling me.
You're going to laugh at me and then join in TS and then someone's going to have it.
I was like, no.
And he was like, no, really?
You really, really willing to do that?
I was like, you're trolling.
And then Scribe messaged me and I was like, no, no, we really do want it to happen.
So I was like, okay, I guess.
So I joined CS and that's what I said, and now Foreverpasta.
Oh damn.
They didn't go on to get the world first though.
Well then it works!
What can you ask for?
I think it's a beautiful speech.
Did you write it or was it off the cuff?
Off the cuff.
It's not bad.
It's better than what I could say off the cuff.
You guys trollin'.
How about?
You don't suck.
Good luck.
I think it was cushy at the end of it when.
Who's that?
Oh no. Yeah. Oh, get a hundred. You got a $50 donation which is incredible. Thank you
so so much for $50 donation in from Siljathan who says thanks for another great Wraiths
to World First event and supporting a great cause. Shout out to everybody at WashedUp
who's that's Crushers Guild and Mickles Guild. So shout out to everyone at WashedUp in brackets
except crush up
bracket stop asking me for splits no
I
I went to the first split they did very very well in everything I just kind of
plodding along I'm being able to make it every time they've been doing splits
I'm on in the early in the morning or I'm on during the shift so but maybe when
I'm back clicking play together that yes thank you very much I'm more than
down but then you of course you won't need splits so we're just useless just
we can just do some in place thank you for doing all my crafted armor there
we go yeah thank you very much it's incredibly generous this really
does mean a lot. We got another donation in from Jace193. Like Jace, don't you? If you're
talking about the best raid fights ever and you're missing out that Goat of Nathria, Shimmy
Left Prance forward, Sashae right, Boogie down, what an absolute...
By the boss. That's a much nicer way of me saying it. Cool idea. The fact that the
The dance was boring as hell, it's such a shame.
They should have allowed you to do something during it.
Like on Mythic there was a small time
in which you were killing ads during it
because of the way that you had the strategy done.
And the fact that you had the choice
was kind of like it's nice to have a council fight
where they do give you the choice of
if you note this one down
then you get this enhanceability.
Very cool.
Everything but the dance was okay.
Yeah, the dance just really needed a lot of work.
And I think there was some shenanigans.
You're not very drunk.
You're spelkewing again on that fight.
Spelkewing.
Flying out loud.
Fun!
still bad somewhere.
We're not gonna swear, we're just swearing another line.
Remember the PTR testing, they actually changed that dance several times because the feedback
was so bad.
And it just wasn't good.
I remember when it started we were like, okay the dance is gonna happen, we were doing
PTR testing and then it started and we were like, what the hell is this?
Is this for real?
It was one of those things that sounded good on paper.
The thing is, I think it still could have been a very very interesting thing to do.
You just needed, while she was doing the dance, you needed some way for people to
do output still.
Our combos are something would have been to make it entertaining and fun instead of us all being individual and doing our own thing
I would have loved it if you like had to merge so it's a bit more like a Sharra's dance
Yes, follow orders, but in a fun way instead of it being so punishes
He just didn't get the damage before you screwed it up or whatever
But you could have done like intricate things with somebody else
Mekotok, you know we communicate like
Oh, that mecha talk thing was such a unique idea that never since we've hidden information on that
I guess it'll be absolutely annihilated. Yeah, I think it was I think it was either too easy if your guild was good communication
Or impossible if they won I don't think there was a middle ground. You're right
Yeah, cuz first our guys you never shop ever
It was like turbo free. We did get through it quite quickly in terms of the breaking out there
You know like that part of the fight. We didn't struggle too much on those other parts of the fight
Yeah, the big laser cannons. Yeah. Oh, remember I was eating that all the time. I got so tilted. Do you remember?
It's a rather large penis coming my way.
Thank you very much.
Oh, that laser cannon could get you out of nowhere.
Absolutely annihilated me.
But thank you very much for that, Jason. We've also got a five dollar donation in from Moywi.
Mew? Mewi? Moywi?
Ah, Moywi, yeah, I think you're correct.
My favourite was easily Garrosh in Siege of Orgrimmar as a disc priest. Never have been so powerful back then.
Also, Solar Healed when we had it on Heroic on Pharma.
Sick.
Dude, awesome.
Paragon killing that fight on 10, Matt.
Yeah, he does really.
Slowed out.
Hell yeah.
So no, I'd totally agree with you. I thought Garrosh was a good fight.
Once again, slightly too long. Mythic only phase is really cool.
Also, for anyone out there who wants to do something, I don't know if this is still doable.
If you're a rogue and you go and kill Garrosh on Mythic and you're in his last little area,
The NPCs that are on the spikes, the dead NPCs, they actually count as NPCs and for some reason you can shadow step to them.
So you can get out of bounds and you can explore the map.
You can go have a little look around, isn't it Stormwind?
It is an entire map of Stormwind, like a destroyed weird version of Stormwind.
And then for some reason it expands into the whole of Elwynn Forest and Westfall.
So you can go see what the game of the old maps of Elwynn and Stormwind.
They're not like destroyed variations.
No, they weren't destroyed variations at all. It's just like a weird sort of like
Yeah, yeah a little bit of a strange sort of area to go next wall. That's a way again our bounds
I don't know if it still works. It certainly did a few years ago
So better combo than Alex around that I do like my outbound you do that. They've changed that you can't even bloodlust clip anymore
They've removed it. I was always so baffled like when I think it was during water alpha
I was like, oh Alex is playing before I logged in for the alpha and you were just in your garrison hopping up a mountain like
What reason?
You know, when in the Legion, Alpha, the only thing I really did on stream was get on a
demon hunter and go to old instances to see what I could hop out of.
I found loads of ways.
You could get out of Sunken Temple and everything, you could explore the old Sunken Temple.
I don't know if you can anymore, but you certainly could.
It was very cool.
I liked it.
Well, it's cool for me.
I'm just a nerd though.
It's like we're Dan's, like I'm exploring all the map.
And today on our roll, the last one is Breviz.
Unfortunate.
It is what it is, but we got it back up.
We can keep pushing through.
Oh man.
Oh man. Oh, Gingy! That was so spicy close.
Let's not do that because we're probably getting to the super dangerous part.
Looks for the point where he can blink too safely.
Damn, can you see he's put one of those puddles in a little bit of a poopy spot.
But as long as people are aware of where it is, hopefully it will be okay.
Ha, it's a difficult phase.
It seems to really be struggling with it so far.
He's hoping that they can get through it though.
Yeah, now they're going to drop me.
We're going to get our roots in.
We're going to be clearing those out using a series of movement-freeing abilities.
a lot of freedoms, a lot of known racials, dodging all of these weapons, and then we're
going to get knocked up one by one. There's group one, and there's group two, followed by
group three, and then four. Everyone alive so far, but you've got to do a lot of dodging
because we're going to get four different waves coming in, a lot of AoE explosions going
off, and the raid damage coming in in two. One. And we're all alive. That's a tremendous
series of events. That's a 10 second period where you really
got to be awake. And here comes the first yank.
Oh.
No, we're dead.
I bet that's what's been killing Frago.
Rescues.
He's rescued he's having to do all the rescues and it bet if someone's just slightly opposition
I wonder if he clips the area around the boss. I guarantee you that's what maybe they're out range as well with the limited range of
Their vocals that might be what's going on as well
Yeah, because it's also me may vocals having the same issue
It's right these guys don't make the facts if you remember
I was really concerned as what was going on there because mays team is actually
The only person on Kyveza who had gone a hundred plus poles without being someone to die like absolutely the most
rock solid person you wanted during Kai Vezer. So I was like really confused. I'm like are
they just having a bad day or something? But I guarantee you they're having to do some rescues
that are getting them killed. 100%. Right, we are here guys. Sit up. Alt tab. The guys
are going for it. Fingers crossed. They have to stop up here. Did one of the portals
just go off? No, it's just the dispel. It's awful damage. So much damage. If the
portal goes off, you're just dead. It's no ifs and buts about it. Fago is in
real danger here is you can't get healed until they land. A good use of rescue there though,
it is applying a relatively large shield at this point. You're going to see this first
yank going off, which also leaves webbing. It's so cruel in this phase in order to maintain
the space that you need first beam coming in here that they're going to be able to
sidestep people going through the portals. This yank is going to be interrupted. It's
gonna go off why can't they yep why can't they build the bridge what someone
didn't click oh no the other side wasn't finished oh yeah the other side
wasn't finished okay you got build the bridge so both sides but they have
shed helpful the ad see what's one side stand both sides are done generally
speak how odd if you have to finish it right I think could we have a look
from a point of view that was on the other platform I don't know who that
would have been. Maybe if we've got a replay, maybe Jinji was on the other platform looking
at the groups.
Yeah, because I think he swaps on the third platform.
So if we can maybe have a replay of Jinji to see what's going on on that other platform,
the fact that we couldn't build that bridge, I'm not sure if it was because someone didn't
click or not, but it was really good getting into that phase. We only had one Rev's that
was on Rev as earlier into that point.
Super clean when they get there. Like I said, there's imminently going to have
some megapole and once we get it.
So this is Jinji's platform, he's not on the same platform as Frago, so this is good.
So you're going to see, once again you get the two ads, you're going to have people going
in and out of the portals.
It wasn't the portals that caused us to die, you have to go into the portals every ten
seconds, I might think otherwise, they just kill you, so you basically have people swap
sides.
So let's have a little look here, obviously the Gripins are at different times, their
ad is really low, okay, both of their ads are dead, they clicked, they built
theirs, and the other side just didn't build theirs.
What? Someone didn't click?
Either someone didn't click or the...
The web... thing?
I don't think it just didn't click. I can't think of any other reason it would be.
Neither can I, but...
I wonder if they said hold because the yank was coming or something?
Maybe a miscommunication?
Either way, it didn't work!
Either way, whoops.
You're not sure what we're talking about. You do actually have to activate the little pylons that build the bridge.
It doesn't automatically happen when you have to die.
You do have to physically click usually you'll see near as I want the tanks doing the far side and then somebody else doing the inside
As we're gonna quickly go into a poor get one more donation in rather quick as we see in the beginning part of this phase at many times
We've got a $5 donation in from blood Walker who says the work week is finally over so time to watch
How come Frago is playing dev over org and also side note favorite boss is Kil'jaeden in two misargeras
Lots to go over that
You guys have got really bad tics today.
The reason that Fraggo is playing Dev is this reason.
Breath. That breath can be used every minute.
It allows him to get out of the phase.
It is also pretty decent.
They bring so much utility because basically he can get out of most of the routes by himself
as well as having the time spirals or being able to make it so the healers can move,
cast on the move as well as having great defensive capabilities, rescues, all those
sorts of things. The utility is too high.
So Dev is what's being used right now, even though the Echo has largely wanted to play Org for every other fight,
they feel that the way that the Breaths, if they have to use Breaths in order to get out of the shields,
they're going to come up at times where it's not actually going to be that powerful,
because it really needs to be aligned up with other people's cooldowns.
So I assume that's why they're making that difference.
Next time Jesse's on, we'll actually show the shield damage,
and you'll see it heavily favours certain people and other people just doing barely anything to it.
That's all by design.
They don't want people sending more damage than is necessary against that shield as long as it is dead before the 4th Yank, everything's fine.
So they've set it up so that should go perfectly.
Which is also why you'll see sometimes if there is that random death going into that phase or during that phase is they don't quite make it.
It's not because they can't do it if they sent everything, but it also means they're not going to do what they need to do later.
So it's a combination of things happening that Echo needs to min-max the hell out of in order to meet these requirements.
It's not like that shield is actually that big, you saw yesterday, they can blow that shield up.
Oh yeah.
It's not a big deal but it just, it means that later on they're going to struggle to do something else.
So it's coming things in here as teetering down 5% I keep thinking he's going to get executed but we're not on the fight anymore.
That fight is really cursed us now, it's such a rough fight.
I saw many guilds still working on that currently, a boss is a real, real tough one.
Even for the Reclers, like Liquid and Echo.
I've spent a little longer than liquid re-clearing it, but not free by any means even though having that reset full of extra gear
Only Brute Swiss are getting changed, but not Kai-Vezeth
Despite and they're also nerfing the Prez evoke is
Yeah, I wonder if they will nerf the raid damage because of that
Do you think they will or do they just expect you just to be able to get over it to get more more gear?
Based on what I've seen visually with the raid frames and even combined with that massive engulf healing that's happening with Prez
probably like that he'll absorb on Bruteswester has already been nerfed once and it's still actually
horrendous. It's you know that we've seen it just constantly going out and out and out. Come out
resued yet again this time it was Saul who rolled the bad dice on P1. Even it's always different,
it's changing up it's not like somebody's trolling or doing something bad it's just a case
of this fight can just trap you in an awful scenario that's almost impossible to get out
of no matter how awake you are so we'll be looking here for them to get it down
and show that 43% here comes the next yank this is the next very very dangerous
moment they said the last one of this phase oh my god just got wiped out
immediately so I think he got dragged in maybe I can't see his corpse actually I
think too many people still on him I think they overlap or maybe you didn't
have his personal up something like that it depends on what they're actually
assigning for certain points so we'll be narco-less going into this particular
phase 2 although we will have them later of course being a maddie dps will be assigned to one of these kicks on these
Ads you've got to make sure that we do have a nice backup for him
I'm sure that's already being communicated though as we're going to have people change it from one side to the other oh
Lost frago though as well
This might spell the beginning of the end here for echoed two people dead on one of the sides
Is not the nicest thing to be going through no it absolutely isn't in the end the rest of the portal got missed at the other side
So that is going to be GG's all she wrote as we fly like an eagle to our doom.
Oh man.
Unfortunately as it is there's a, well when you're in a situation like this it's like
the sort of procedure that you would go along in order to kind of fix it.
I've tackled this a couple of ways in guilds I've been raid leading and when I've seen
the guys hit a little bit of a funk is sometimes a pause is nice to say everyone
Just everyone just sit back for a second. Let's have a little chat. Let's talk about what's going on
Because I think some of you and your heads a little bit
I either is it could just what's happening could be any number of different reasons either some people are in the heads
Like I can't screw up I can't screw up and that obviously leads to less relaxation and you do tend to screw up
Well for other people though
They haven't screwed up in for ages and then they run into a point where they're bored and then they start
Screwing up because they're like
Why isn't we dying what's going on and then they die so sure there's more a case of like yo
do what you need to do like they tried to do a few minutes ago it's like just get
out your heads this is fine we've done this what we are now hundred eighty eight
times get out your heads a little bit you guys have more than good enough to do
this we need to get forward yes there's a pressure on us but you've got to do
what you need to do I'll tell me what you need to do to get get yourselves there
and do it together as a team this is like you rely on the team to come
together and be like okay give it a few tries where we all focus up and do
things like that. So does that work? Not always. Ultimately it's a personal
endeavor of the players to, they will be being supported by the rest of them. It's like,
come on, let's get it together. Let's do it. It's tough.
It really is.
And it does take that really good pull to really just fire everybody up. You need
something to ignite them. They need one good pull right now, Echo. That's it.
One good pull and this will turn around completely for the remainder of the night.
Well how about, let's see exactly how they are in D getting on right now. Maybe
we have a little listen in with just for a short time and maybe it'll be good if
we're not talking because that sometimes does work as well so we'll be
back in a few moments and we'll have a little bit of a listen in on the cops
What am I?
I'm lagging in
Into blades
We'll need something next to it
Yeah, we'll order
And then we have laid dodges
The toxins
Well
China and
this voice matrix coming up
that's the watch the
blocks starting blocks and then baiting blades
there you are
and we're over
and ready to leg it
legging it
and blades
then you go to your position if you can't get it
ready to leg it
and legging it
Watch the blade abates.
And with the blobs coming, blobs are just...
No spell work.
Watch the blobs, 4 stacks, going in 2, 1, now.
And getting ready for first grip.
3, 2, 1, now.
Pushing to the left, DPS potion.
First wave coming.
Rest rise in swan.
That's fine.
Second wave.
Panther with security for the second group. Going in two, one now. No, we don't need him.
He's blast, dodging only the orbs and the blobs from now. Nice miss, his first kick.
That's fine, last one. First one blasting, good.
I can do first, I don't know
have a soulful next disposal two one now yeah the other team press remember
I'm going to pass him on his pipe, you're getting it again, alright.
I'm trying to understand this thing, nice thing for a strike.
Yeah.
Yup.
Yup, yup, yup.
You call a backup?
You died?
Is it easy for you Wolf to kick first and now?
Yeah, I can easily kick first.
Yeah, I would like to do second.
That's a lot of power.
You just spam the tower right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. It was like one until you went up.
And they also spam the tower so we didn't learn anything.
Yeah, I need one second. I need eye drops.
Why are we still...
Apparently my team was out of range for Velo
Because of deep rough mechanics and elegance
Okay
Easy fix
If I kick second it's gonna be fixed
Yeah, I'll tell Marius to swap it when he has said don't
My quidow almost do nothing there because I'm going through the party and it's full-shanded
Yeah, I mean
I'll vanish, I won't, no matter what
I feel like she just played, they figured it out eventually on Heroic and then that's it, yeah like, I don't know, we're just trying to... eat.
I think this is just a misdirection bro.
I don't know.
But we're trying to play it all, we just don't like...
No, I'm not, I don't know, I'm just trying to focus on this.
Marius?
We don't focus on it.
We focus on weight-leaning, do the dispell calls, everything, we're in the zone and we kill the bow.
But I don't know, we do have a lot of deaths, like two.
I don't know man.
Yeah, that is what I would rather focus on.
Yeah, intermission, why is that?
What is happening in intermission? How can we make it easier for healers?
It's a lack of great cities.
It's nothing, it's not healers.
People are getting back, not just you.
We need a warrior instead.
You guys are going to make me punch you in the face there.
We need a warrior instead.
The only thing we are dying to is play a mistake, it's not pressing the right button.
Yeah, the only thing we are dying to is play a mistake, it's not pressing the right button.
Okay, so a nice move started to not press in blur or another one called War.
He didn't have never woke up when he just let everyone go.
Yeah, I mean it wasn't ready.
I think you should say that at the end of the pull, if someone like walks up to you and says,
Yeah, I died because I'm blind.
Why did I die already, that's just...
Because of bad blades.
I mean, I don't know, how am I...
How did I not get a single heal the entire...
The second link is public personnel. Yeah, I had blow up
8mm HP if 20%
But obviously every pool every pool people are expecting him to never hold there
So they just say I find he's gonna have all this, you know
You have to call it back up for
My thinking is this that if you got a second rally what mistakes like this or
or unfortunate things happening like this.
Well if we had the second rally, it wouldn't have even been up at this point, eh?
It wouldn't have died.
It wouldn't have been up, but that went, Mike.
Now, but wouldn't you switch one RATCD over to the second grip if we had another rally, for example?
No, and it doesn't fix the...
Like, one rally could not solve two different, like, mistakes, yeah?
I mean, you're the healing officer. I'm just saying that we're dying a lot.
If you don't think that that's the fix, I mean, I would...
Yeah, but the thing is still, we can have a rally to fix people's mistakes, but we cannot afford at this point guys, to like, not press our abilities or like, use something, and like, we just need to communicate and play good, for example, like, nice ones, I see your point as well, but like, you could have just said like, okay, I don't have a network, you know, just play
I had blood up. Yeah, but like Potter said they expected him units always did no one is probably looking at you because
At least a little bit of smart healing there as well
Every never walk like a hundred nineteen hundred hundred pools people like just they're not even like looking at you at that point
Oh, like you don't exist because they you see never walking
Let's go again and make sure to press our buttons, talk to each other, communicate, then it's
going to be so easy.
But it is a good habit.
If you're missing something you normally have, we should press the external macro, right?
And then a sec or whatever we can press.
So because everyone is immune in the second grip, right?
The people who usually immune it.
So there are buttons.
We need Nails Fees, right?
But then when we go into that intermission that you can press, let's say if I panic
bubble that one time. I'm not gonna have anything for second group. Yeah, you can press it the
normal external requested one. Yeah, but then I press it right before the group isn't something I can
press before, so he does already. I mean, you can also go in. You can go in. You can go in.
That's gonna be crowded. You don't need to press it the globe before you take the damage out.
You can press it like four seconds, five seconds before. Okay. All six turns are long duration,
it will cover long time. Yeah, nobody's gonna external you point one before it goes off.
You also want to be healthy before, right?
No, but they're all dodging and...
I bet we died only to add two people standing still on top of me after the dodge.
You just locked in.
Then I will get back to stacking up, guys.
For beautiful bait.
I'll get ready to leg it.
Legging it here.
To watch your feet.
Rating.
Into roots after.
Roots here.
Move, Michael.
Mm-hmm.
Legging it and watch your feet blades coming up and then watching our feet again very soon
That's actually so close windows we get
Matrix matrix coming up guys watching the blobs
Watching blobs and then blades and beds
blades and beds here
the roots
Ready to leg it
Legging it here into blades
What the fuck happened to cross all right?
little bit puddle there and then you get ready to your positions
soon lagging it over guys and lagging it over baiting blades and blob
dodges touch the blobs touch the blobs one more wave coming in that's fine one
more wave damage here and we're getting grouped very soon getting
And grouped in 3, 2, 1.
Now we can rest for a go after, switching to the left DPS potion.
Does anyone need anything for the next one?
Does everyone have everything?
Dodging the waves, second one coming.
And third one group coming up.
Big Pussy.
I don't think I could shoot hard on him.
And going in 2, 1, go.
Good.
No you could.
Both to the left.
Oh that's the blotch now.
First wave of watch out.
And we're here, we're really slow, just make sure to dodge and pump, last.
We got it.
Alright, let's go.
Especially the rest of your feet.
No.
Watch the orbs.
The orbs.
Here we go!
As long as nothing goes insanely crazy right now, we have the whole raid alive and ready to ascend Skywards.
That one pull, a little bit of bitterness, a little bit of bickering amongst the group.
because obviously they could all feel the tension of like,
hey, oh, dudes, we're not getting where we should be.
We were doing this yesterday.
Let's rock and roll.
But one good pull will all is needed
to change the atmosphere a little bit here in Germany, Alex.
The guys, you know, we've had potters like,
dude, there's nothing else we can do for you.
You just gotta execute.
Like there's no mechanical solve
for where we're at right now.
It is up to you to get the job done.
And that is what Echo needs to do
and come together as a world first team
that they are known for in order to bring this home
as this first ad is going down and we are about to head into the hell situation.
You can see he's ready to click, click, click, click.
There we go.
Yeah, they hit at least the, we got the bridge up this time.
Unfortunately, Penguin going down with Wolf Disco,
but we do have a battle res available in two seconds.
We will be able to get him up for this damage check.
Bloodlust being saved for now.
You're not actually testing bloodlust.
Okay.
So they're going to be trying it without,
although that shield needs to be going down before that cast completes,
they were able to do. Unfortunately Wolf going down one more time that res was obviously in a
position that's a little bit rough. Hopefully we're still able to satisfy the need to keep
breaking out the portals quite not interesting that we didn't use the last second single was a
little bit behind but hey ho it's nice to get out the intermission hopefully a little bit further
on is what we're going to be seeing this a nice phase three is what echo needs right now and
It's sooner the better for the boys for sure ruts for the last few hours
But it's it's within their grasp. They know it's they need to get it done
I know there's some of them looking for like I don't think I'm getting enough here
Look at this and potters like dude. We checked like
You're getting everything you get
That is it. It's up to you guys to get your head in the game and get it done a tough time
But that's okay. That's what it happens every race. Here we are. It's nothing strange. Nothing new
It's you're entirely right that one pool that would take us into phase three allows to see that we can get there again
Because we have seen it before over and over again yesterday
Yeah back to back to back to back to back they were doing it. So it's doable
It's just unfortunately they are spending a lot of time today as you say in this right and time is not necessarily on their side
However, there's nothing we can do about that. We can maintain positivity. I would say I just spoke to Roger
I was like let's get it done dude. He's like yeah, I'm like let's go
Let's do it. You know we're doing our part as much as we can with here to entertain you a guide you along this road
Oh, yes, I can kill but I also just take the time there
Just want to Roger give a pat on the shoulder scared to death. You could probably see on his camera
Just had a word is like let's do it dude. Let's get these boys going. Let's fire them up
It's one of those things where you kind of want to go in there and be like come on get let's go. Yes
But uh, not quite appropriate
I think at the moment the mood in the room is a little uh, what would you say?
Yeah, it's rough with so many players altogether. They all know that they're all goofing, you know,
it's like Wolters go sat there and he's like, God damn it, man. You know the same with Fraggo
and all these people who've had some little regular mistakes here is like, get it? I'm there.
I know I'm good enough, you know, and I just need to stop it.
Yeah, it's it's just getting just being able to click out of it
And it's just something that there's no easy way of doing it and being able to identify when that sort of thing is happening and
Try to find some way of getting over it
If you could do that you would be the very best guild in the world, you know
It's the best any sport in the world. You'll be the best at any probably thing in the world
I bet I'll show you in the world. I mean my own head on this quilt
Oh no totally but it is it's something that happens happens to all of us is what it is
But one thing that we are doing which I guess we can focus on whilst we're waiting with them to get there
You guys have been amazing your best and worst bosses in the history of wow also helping children
I've got a rock solid effort you guys put in there your energy is fire
Oh, yeah, keep it coming as well because we do have a $10 donation in from G
Well, Woon Marnie, I would say he says lost count on how many races world first I followed echo
I just keep rooting for them tough day today, but it's echo. It'll be fine kind of yeah
I still believe in the boys. I still absolutely do
I think there's still a long road to walk if we're gonna have a bit of a tilt now. That's all right
That's all right, and we've also got a one dollar nation in from a schematic again
He says my favorite boss aside an athrius
I managed to get my wife to play wow for the first Simon Shadowlands
And it was her first ever ahead of the curve so it warms
So it holds a warm and fuzzy place in my heart like a tumor. Oh
What was his last one
It's just bad take after bad take so I did after us. That wasn't necessarily that bad. All right
Yeah, I'm trying to find it
Now you got your wife into wow, and that's it the rest of your life games together. It's nice
I couldn't play games for my life
Why not? It's not a nice person
I don't know that.
She would want all the loot all the time, anything that dropped for me, she'd be like,
Could I have it?
I'd be the same.
I am the same even now.
Yes.
Ten gold donation coming in from Ruby Ox who says,
What a crazy race so far, playing WoW again with War Within has been great
and a good change of pace since I was getting pretty burnt out of XIV.
I can understand that.
Yes, you can change it up.
There's no reason to stick to one MMO anymore.
There really isn't.
I really find the classes more enjoyable in WoW, but I love XIV's raiding.
I understand that.
Then do both.
Easy.
Yeah, just switch between the games as and when you see fit.
I'll be playing WoW for a little bit more.
I still haven't done Heroic Ancestors, kind of time
while I've been here at the race.
That was my plan, but streams would be very disruptive
with the hours we've been doing here on the cast.
But my goal is still to do Heroic Ancestors
with my viewers, and that'll be kind of when I just step
away for a bit.
I'm fine with that.
Come back for some stuff.
I've loved the story.
I've adored the war within so far.
Everything is really happy, and I'm more than ready
to enjoy my goals and then go play something else
come back when the next evolution happens? I'm still in an RNS so whether or not to
send with it blasts this tier. I think I will. I'm getting a vibe that it'll be a fun time.
What is your goal like to get Keymaster? Um, just, I'll just play. Just play a time
really. That's fine. Like play a time with some friends, see how it goes. If I feel that the
dungeons are fun enough to keep pushing then go for a push. I always find the best way now
because obviously I play quite a variety in MMOs and when it's other games is,
I give myself a goal. A series of goals. I did it for Dawn trail which just released
for FF14, I did the sheets with that goals and then I ticked them off and when I've done those goals
I'm good. Yeah, that's fair enough. You also get less annoyed with MMOs if you do that.
True that. Because the minutiae that annoys you on the day today doesn't last long enough to like
make you like really angry, right? You remember some of my old videos, it's like, they put a timer in
Torgast! I don't really feel that anymore because I'm just... I mean, don't get me wrong,
I just remember they did a thing saying we want to take the time pressure
We want you to have fun in Torga's and take the time pressure off so they changed it
All right, and then they put a bonus in for cleaning it fast
And I remember looking at it. I'm like why?
Why you said all these things that you wanted to do and then the first thing you did was stick a bonus for doing it fast in there
I'm like why it could have been such a cool little system. It was a cool little system
Shouldn't put any power in it just for the memes full memes should have been a leveling system
It was absolutely dope to level your characters into I guess until they like turned all the
they gave you infinite power scaling and took it away.
Ah see.
Oh my god, Ryzen absolutely clobbered there in the first two seconds of that fight.
Yeah those blades just catching me. I mean it is it's everybody right we're not looking at
somebody trolling here it's everyone who is getting tripped up at one point or another.
It happens throughout this.
Well, as we're going through this phase, I guess we can have a little bit more of a look at some of the donations here as they're going for a wipe as well.
And as we've got a 10 dollar donation in from Kel Ray, who says, I love watching these top tier players cook up their plans and play at a phenomenal level whilst hearing the dulcet tones of your wonderful castes whilst levelling my oats.
Keep up the good work team.
We'll do. We're happy. We're buying it.
We're chilling.
We obviously want to, as long as you guys to see that big poll, we want to see that phase three, we want to see Echo do what? Echo do!
Oh yeah.
Every race that has led them to multi-time world champions, uh, we know they're capable of it, this roster hasn't changed that much, they're good enough, they've got everything they need, but right now, they're playing the mental war.
Mmm.
Indeed. Yeah, it's, uh, don't you just go to, I, like, I, I-
Oh, you've been, when have you been here? What do you think of it? Where are you just like-
I've been asked to set out on bosses before I told my raid leader I'm inting, I just can't do this, take me out
and he told me to shut up and then I just played the fight and I did fine.
Got on the attack.
That was on Botanist.
Oh really?
Yeah, Botanist, I couldn't do the little swirly solo pattern for some reason, it just wasn't clicking for me, I couldn't read it at all.
When I was playing Hunter it's not hard to get out of, used to disengage or whatever, but I literally done that fight like four or five times in a row.
Yeah, I think I felt that way on Ximax a lot as well, because it was a lot of RNG and the job I had.
Sometimes it was like, you could do five pulls and it would be free.
You just kind of grabbed your seed and went to the pool and whatever.
And then you got a couple of pulls where you got some horrible events happening to you.
And you die.
And then someone else like, I think I remember talking to you, I was like, right, we have this mage.
And if one of us dies, because our job is really hard sometimes,
because there was a nasty frost fever for whatever it took like all your health.
You could get it just before you left or whatever while you're out there.
Yes, we had a mage who backed us up and just could do it in like two seconds
and I was like, oh, why don't we just have the mage do it?
I was having a wheel run back up and it was like, because actually the mage can cover every spot
should the mistake happen. Whereas with your utility and stuff, it's like,
it's only a few spots you can do. And I was like,
Technically correct.
Yeah, it's like, screw you out.
That's a really good point.
Yeah, no, I've had loads of times where I've been in raids and I've just completely
clocked out or I've been playing like absolute crap.
There's nothing worse than when you know you're better than that and like any other day the week you would not dice this
Mm-hmm. Oh like this would this is such a not an issue and you just died to it for whatever reason you know
Oh, yeah, it's it's something that happens. It's uh
Sometimes you just need someone in charge just to say well, I know you're good enough to do it
So just keep going. I think I need a loop from the boss. He's like well
We want to play your character on the bosses. So you're in
Stop trolling. I'm like, okay. I do I think on the kill
I don't think I did die but every pull on the way up to the kill and it only took us like 10 pulls
skip on this and it wasn't very hard. Yeah, just decided to see what the floor was all
about. And it was a nice floor because I was recently that had a pattern that for whatever
reason my brain just did not process. And it wasn't hard. I understood it. And for whatever
reason, there's I just don't see it. Yeah, for sure. How it works. It's sometimes you
get wings from.
Oh, extreme trial.
I call him Jarul.
It was very simple.
You had lasers, we'll call it, for the Sigma.
I mean, it came across platforms, but they changed direction.
Oh, that is one of the mechanics that I still don't bother trying to read.
I just nominate someone else.
It's like, please carry me through that bit, because I can't work it out.
Yeah, a little bit.
I was like, that's what's nice about being in a raid team where you've got lots
of people that are comfortable calling things out is that chances are there's a mechanic that you are
really struggling with that someone else finds to be the most intuitive easy thing in the entire
world and you just get them to carry you right. And hard trolling wasn't that mechanic it was the
donuts and explosions that came across the room but you also had the directional side that
were cut off three quarters of the room. Do you know what we called on comms during that
face. What? Don't be shit. Just play the game. I go by the end of it, but I think it's
like 60 pulls. Yeah. I was like, what is the blade anime? Because it's based on an animation
of how it stands of it. And everybody else was like, well, if the blades are that way,
it's doing this. And I'm like, uh-huh. Sure. I don't think it a way of standing really
far out. So you got a really big view. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. See you now.
Oh, well, thank you very much for that donation there from beforehand. We've
We've always got a tendillination in from Nath, again, who says story time.
Imperial Vizier Zorlock from Heart of Fear. Was that the last boss or the first boss?
Imperial Vizier.
Zorlock. I think that was the last boss.
Zymox has nothing on Zorlock when it comes to scuff timing and overlaps.
Oh, let me rack my brain a little bit.
So Heart of Fear, so...
Was that not the guy who charged behind you and did the wind tunnel?
No. I remember that guy.
not amber shaper. Is it the guy who spawned the army?
The last boss. It was the last boss in there. I can't remember anything about that.
Last boss. How? The last boss in Heart of Fear was a shark.
No it wasn't. That was in Terras of the End of Springs was a shark.
Is that what he was called in Piril Vizier? I think he looks like a shark. It's a bit purple thing.
Where he stood in the alps where he couldn't capture you. It's like a theme in Crab Guy.
No Crab Guy, Spider-Man. I think it's a right fight though.
I think you might have got a Snath here. I think that's something where
a little bit less than the source.
Okay, I'm going to purchase those first ones.
So it's the guy who flies up.
Oh, it's the first guy.
He's just a spinny rink.
I have a story about that guy.
Yeah, so that's the guy with the three platforms
where he sends out those pulses of rings
that's come out like in the weird patterns.
Are we finding new ways to wipe here?
This is magical.
Just going to pretend it didn't happen like.
How to wipe with Ansarek?
We'll first.
Imperial Visitor Zorlok then,
the first guy in that instance.
It was only discovered afterwards, some of the top guilds knew this, but not everyone knew it, that he had a pattern, it was called attenuation.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the rings.
They sent out the rings in a certain pattern, and discovering if it was going towards either clockwise or counterclockwise, a left or right, it was called.
That was actually two different spell IDs, but it wasn't known that it was two different spell IDs early on, but once people worked out what that was, then you could get your boss mod to tell you as it was casting exactly how you need to dodge.
Plot twist, I was, we were doing the testing, I was in method at the time, and we were doing the PTR testing on that for whatever reason.
I found that mechanic ludicrously easy. I've just been a I was playing warrior
I was allowed to swap from wallets warrior and they all started die
I could never tell you as a trial in like a world-first guild
Whatever else is dying around you and you're just like
It's the best feeling in the world. Oh, man. They're like, I don't know how to get around it
I don't have to do it blah blah blah blah. I'm like, you just you just walk in a circle and then walk through the gap like
They're like, which way does it go like it doesn't matter
It's totally easy, you just shimmy, and you're all good.
Yeah, no, that fight was, half here had some cool bosses in it, but nothing that really
stands out was like, wow, there's just, I remember some bosses in it, here and there.
The Amber Shaper was really difficult to solo, but I did manage to do that in League of
Death, in one at one point.
I kind of liked the final boss, I can't remember what he's got, he was a char, I'm
sure it was a char.
I'd be shocked if it was.
I think it is.
You could be right, I'm happy to be wrong, but there's something in my gut that
feels like it's uh it was something else that was a from us though i'm sure chat is
shout out i'm gonna chat up with my own
oh hold worms no no no oh do you think we need to change the um oh no we have got the
correct one up never mind yeah we've got despair up at the moment maybe if we change it maybe
it'll do them some good all right hold on then what we got uh chat we hold do we want hold
or do we want balalata i think hold is the player i've got your i've got you guys up now
Or is it, if we put the worms up, we got a white. I think hold might be the point.
Hold up Blalatath, chat. Which one are we doing?
How do we inspire Echo via our power of emotes?
Looks like Blalatath is getting it for now. So, okay, spam your Blalataths.
Oh, there it is. It's, it's sharp. That's why you thought it was sharp.
Like it was like a sharp infused bug.
Top shelf. We're both good.
Yeah, okay, we're good. We're good. We're good.
Casting gods.
We remember old crap bosses. Spam your Blalataths in chat.
Maybe it would allow-
Give back all your Blalataths!
Yeah, maybe it'll allow them to get through this particularly nasty part of this progress.
As they are struggling.
On!
I wanna go in there and kick them in the face.
Well, that would not-
I'm feeling that way, legit.
I'm like, I'm ready to go in there and start screaming.
I'm here for violence!
Wake up!
Well, Mike.
While we're waiting for them to get in and was spamming Blalataths,
may I get your opinion on something?
We've got a $1 donation from Foodtakes101.
He said to truly test Mike's food takes,
It's time for desert island crisps, which is chips as well
What are your top three crisps brand and flavor? Can we go fullscreen production?
Crisps are chips for America listen to me or anywhere else
If you were not taking pickled onion monster munch with you, oh then frankly you don't deserve
To eat any chip or crisp our man has got a point
It is the one the only the reigning champions you bring of all snacks
Production plenty on nice and spicy knickknacks. That would also be up there. Yeah, but it's not number one
Oh, no, prawn cocktail. I'd agree not prawn cocktail pickle in pickled onion monster munch up there
You can't even get them in other countries. It's insane. Just prawn cocktail
Pringles are some of my favorite by far lover absolutely lover
So thank you for your takes whatever you don't taste anything like but what our UK prawn cocktail flavor
is some bazaar concoction head it's it's weird I wouldn't say it's even ketchup
it doesn't weird tang to it yeah it's ketchup I don't agree with that it's
really good although you know the NordVPN crisps that we got I haven't had mine
yeah I probably quite spicy they're really they're just really nice spicy
they're really good I was with me Jordan were making our way through a
bag this was earlier in the race when I was trying to look after myself
health wise. Now I have my chips. I got the free gift box of chips and I was like I'll
just have half a pack. Oh like a gentle sir. Literally last night I got for an entire tube
of Pringles. Just sat there just nomin' like other crisps are available. What's yours?
Doesn't have a crisp. Yeah I think prawn cocktail or anything. Big fan. Totally grew
with you with the monster munch. Although for some reason no matter how dainty you're
being with your monster munch that is a messy, messy snack.
Do you want me to, oh no it's not as bad as a watsuit for example, they're just everywhere.
To really annoy everybody who exists right now, I can't tell you one food take on snacks
that people really hate but I-
Oh god.
I detest, detest, Jaffa cakes.
Awful!
They're so bad.
They're awful and I see people arguing about them, my kids and my wife arguing about
And I like just throw me the bin
They're terrible
I've never been so disappointed in you in my entire life
I feel like I'm the only one
I don't get what you guys see in this
Even with the warning
I'm still shocked
It was...
Oh no, Sam was left to build his...
Can we cancel his contracts?
Book a flight
Just get him out
Just get him out of Germany
As fast as possible in a car
We saw the way to escort me to the airport.
I lived off Jaffas as a kid.
I love Jaffa cakes.
Ooh, some overlap there.
Got a shift, boys.
There it is.
OK.
Look after each other now.
That's all we're asking Echo.
Take care of each other.
We're friends, all alive.
The shield has no chance.
Look after each other.
You certainly need to.
We've got one more pull in that we need to do.
It's so easy during this phase
to either get pulled into one of the blobs coming out
or getting clipped by the blobs or being two stacked
on top of one another.
Here comes this last yank in.
And two, one, can we survive?
Easily survived very very healthy and the boss shield certainly isn't as it is going down lower and lower a couple more blobs
That we need to avoid you need to do that nice and smoothly no rush
I'm a killing now under control. They should go annihilated. We barely even got that cast at the end
So what we need to see is here this pool no battle res is available. Unfortunately
We should still be able to go
As we're going to be slamming our way into phase two got to make sure that we're doing these kicks on these mobs
correctly whilst making sure that we're still sending people through the portals um a mythic
mechanic where basically the portals need feeding um they they will get very angry if someone hasn't
gone through them in 10 seconds um so you're gonna have to make sure you keep sending people in
let's have a look no knockers okay just a little low just one little one percentage well you know
that's one percent higher than you need but it's way to the other platform oh zero taking a kick in
as he came through. Yeah. Really
dangerous. This whole platform
phase is it's a personal
responsibility. The healers are
working their chops to the bone
to keep you up here a little bit
more to go. It's such a lovely
play by Fraggo there. So he
maximizes up. He's laughing.
him and nice memes doing it
together as they are heading
off into this particular area
blood loss being popped on
the nasty shield. It is something that needs to go down the next eight seconds, but it looks
like it's not going to be lasting anywhere near long enough. The group's going to have
to rush back unfortunately Kush on the ground, but that's going to be a lot of play in real
fast to get through that platform. Oh yes, that's going to go off. So now he did manage
to do it. Well done whoever covered Kush right there, as we are going to be heading
up onto the third platform. All players currently alive. This is no, by no means
free though, as up here the portals have gone through a few times. The tanks have
gone down due to the crazy amount of raid damage. That absolutely would pop over to the full screen
though as this is looking pretty tidy for now. Yeah it needs to burst out. There's the big burst
of the dispels looking really good for Echo right now. They should be able to finishing it.
Going through the portal one more time. They're going to get a bit of a blast from this bursting.
It did kill Wolf Disco. That was more of a safety go through because it was about to expire
before they could go up there but the combat res will be up in a little while.
Echo is back in phase three after five hours. This is crucial for them to do a
little bit well here to regain not only the momentum of this raid but their
all self-confidence. It has been a rough, rough morning but once again they are
here. They will be locked in now more than they have been for the last few
hours. We're gonna see these small adds coming down. You're gonna see a real
real play. The larger adds, the danglers are gonna take a little longer to
kill now with Wolf Disco down Alex. You can see everyone baiting here but you're
entirely right with Wolf not here it's gonna take a little bit longer however
these first set of adds are gonna get annihilated you see Revvers fully
revving up making sure he's getting a ton of damage on these adds that are
slowly making their way towards the boss CC chains going out in order to
make sure they don't reach it a guaranteed wipe if they do increase in
the boss's damage by an unbelievable amount here come the set of adds
the dodging. How did Revvers do that? I have no idea but I'm glad that he did as we are
going to be making our way through these three adds here. Keep dodging, Revers! Oh my goodness!
Thank God we've got them in the raid! So much damage coming out onto the group as each of these
essences are dropping to the ground. They will need to be collected by the players as the boss
is going to be placing herself towards the middle of the room and we're going to have to take
this gateway as a team. Everyone has to spread out afterwards. Can the people with the debuffs
survive and can they drop their particular essences in good locations? That's what we
need to see. Yes, we saw Robin obviously ran into this issue the last time in phase 3
as he came through with that essence but unfortunately he accidentally ran over it again giving them the
enormous dot with the 1000% damage increase on it. This time they have done it though.
This is great. They're now looking to repeat this process the binding shot going down.
You could see there the Ursel's Vortex being lined up perfectly by Canex before he repositions
for these blades. So that's too close! But that's intentional they are putting a lot of cleave
onto those adds and the boss. Boss now looking much lower. This is going to be a new best overall for Echo,
but now this really tricky moment, Alex. These adds are spread absolutely everywhere,
and now they're going to be going up to 7 SS. Look at them touching the blades, though. It's
incredibly well done. The shackles still, unfortunately, still up. With a couple of these
adds also need to be taken down. Canyx incredibly low, hopefully going to be following afterwards,
doing as much damage as he can to that add, making sure we get the kicks out.
They're so far, so good. We do need to kill that add off before this next ring in four
seconds looking to be rough as we're going to be going around and collecting
any of these essences but I fortunately I think the portal's in the wrong place
as we only have a tiny little portal jump from one side to the other and there we
go essence taken out by the ring but as you said a new best for Echo
excellent to see hopefully that's enough to break them out of their rut
that's exactly what they needed we knew it was coming at some point it's
just something to get them and show them yes we're still there and that
It wasn't even going into the last phase cleanly.
We didn't have Wolf for the entire time, not flaming at all.
He got res during a part of the fight
where accepting a res is very, very risky.
So it's incredibly well done for them by them.
And hopefully that raises their spirits
and brings a whole new level of excitement
as they head back into that last phase.
It certainly does.
You guys, you did it.
Blalatath made it happen.
Blalatath did it.
It was your energy that went into Echo there.
But can we cycle through the players?
We're seeing a little bit of happiness now from the team.
Are they all like, that was a lucky pull.
Oh yeah, a little bit of a vibe, the eyes are open.
That's what we want to see from the Echo team.
Wolf Disco will be kicking himself a little bit,
but that's about it.
But they now look more engaged than we've seen
for the last little while.
Checking some information, going back,
assessing what they did.
This is what we needed.
Now we need to keep this momentum going.
It's so important that Echo uses this
to get out of the little bit of a funk they were in.
Now we've seen phase three again.
We've got deeper than we've ever seen before.
They killed those four adds.
They did die, but not quite there when what we need.
Yes, so of course the way the ring enters
from that last phase from the edge of the room,
if the ring ever goes under over any of the add souls
that they drop on the ground,
of course it will cause an explosion
and we just didn't have the players alive
to collect the essences just because it all went
a little bit pear shaped.
They're looking at that now.
Where are we going to be dropping these essences?
Who's going to be responsible for picking them back up?
How did we have deaths?
Obviously everything went a bit, you know,
it's all going to go a little bit wrong over time
as we haven't got all the players that we needed there.
This is exactly what they're reviewing now
to make it so that when they get back into phase three,
we can do that sort of pull again.
We were so close.
That's the second ring out of three rings
that we think are survivable.
If the boss ever does a fourth ring,
which we don't know if they do or not,
then we're screwed.
This is nothing we can do.
There's going to be far too many souls on the ground.
Everyone's going to have a debuff.
It's going to be nasty.
So looking incredibly good in theory about halfway through the phase at that point ish without obviously seeing the entire thing
I think liquids very best pull got to the point where they got a little bit further than that and they saw
So the fifth ads
So yeah, the second ahead of the bloodlust in there which I go hasn't moved away yet
But you could see the difficulties here
It's not just a sheer amount of mechanics and the pace of those mechanics. They are a relentless onslaught of things happening
It's infest into shackles into the ads into the rings into the essences back into the infest over and over and over and over again
But at the same time it's a fight about control area denial from the pools that you drop
Why are you trying to do this complex positioning putting the boss between these dangly ads all those kinds of things?
The boss is actively ruining it for you shackles are dragging you one way webs are dragging you another way
So it's a fight of absolute pinnacle control while the fight is actively turning the whole thing into a slip and slide
Yeah, it's like when you see those charity events where someone's like all you have to do is run up the hill and get the ball and
It's all that that's happening simultaneous for the players making what should be a case of drop ads
Do shackles do ads drop these ads around and round we go around the platform into an an immense
Personal play nightmare. Everybody is responsible themselves. I thought that we could have got a better POV there than Reves
who was dancing on a knife edge in between all of those blades shooting across the platform
but still look at that damage meter.
Just goes to show not only how strong the class happens to be at the moment in that particular
phase but how strong the player Revvers is.
Always great to have him in on the team.
It's always a pleasure.
You can even see the boss damage there.
He's not even good.
Yeah, he's, you'd think as a Fury Warrior, maybe he's just, you know, padding on
all the ads.
Fourth on the damage meter on the boss as well, which is incredible stuff, you know, so
All this goes depth. So well, yeah, like say they did the same as over there. That's another 70 mil off the boss
You know boss damage right now shouldn't be our primary concern
I couldn't give a crap, but it does need to be consideration in if this strategy is something that only allows us to explore
And will never be the actual strat then sometimes you could be shooting yourself when the lust will move. Yes
right now it's a case of
Keep the boss can live until the end rage, which will be the fourth ring.
So that's fine. Don't worry about that right now.
What we need to know is that everybody in this raid,
every time these relentless onslaught mechanics keep slapping the way through,
knows where we go. We go to A to B to C to D to E to F to G.
And it's going to be like that. Then we can go,
okay, let's take the bloodlust away from platform two.
Now we can care about boss HP and go for the kill.
Because we're not going to have people with massive DPS downtime going,
Where do we go? I don't know this thing happened. It's weird. So until we get like comfy
with that nightmare
Then we can start pumping and maximizing possible when it takes so long to get to that part of the fight as well
It's so important that we can actually you know know exactly what you want to do the entire time
It's fall avatar style right? It's if you think about it is they can't skip
Phase one like you couldn't fall avatar, but we can send things like bloodlust and cooldowns to get to the end
Yes, to try it out. Even though we've no intention of killing the boss right now,
we just want to see, we want to make sure that when we do get there,
everyone knows what to do, and then we'll throw the bloodlust in, and we'll be like,
okay, there's more boss damage now. It's like, they're finding the problems now that need to be solved later.
Exactly. You don't necessarily expect people to execute flawlessly.
Understanding needs to be there. And no point. It's like, I didn't pull it off because
it was very scary, and there was a lot going on, and I got a little bit lost in the source rather than
I got to that point. I don't know what we want to do if you have that at any point on a fight like this
You're gonna be in a hell of a lot of trouble because yeah, that's not the way you want to prog and they know that to be the fact so
exceptionally good thus far in terms of the
Pool that they just had hopefully enough to bring them out as we did indeed
Just get a new best getting all the way to the second portal in phase two
the big rings coming in towards the boss. We did get in that in phase 3, excuse me, with
a new best percentage on the boss as well, although we didn't enter that phase cleanly,
so there's still a lot of work to be done, but exceptional nonetheless.
This is what we need, let's see this moment and carry on. I know some people are wondering
about the item level difference, obviously a reasonably dramatic difference between
Echo and Liquid. That's one guy. I don't know if you guys saw, Liquid and Echo
yesterday we're like even ish yeah it's somebody joined the raid and well and
that person is Robin now so now paladin is like full boosted yeah it's like in
greens he already run what a roger's Trevor Troves Troves he's just caching
it in early yeah now not really utilizing that paladin through any of the mythic
early prog any of the reclares that happened obviously like when I last
it was like 619 in this raid but totally could have gone and got him something
at some point like I don't know if he's on a heroic split as an example there is
potential that he could have crafted some extra pieces and got some buoys because
they initially brought the character in to see what it could do and I don't know
how strong it's got since then because when they first trialed it yeah the
item level the group went down by 0.3 which is really funny it has gone up
since a little bit so yeah echo a tiny bit behind liquid in terms of item
level. One interesting thing about what Jesse said in the past though is that generally speaking
the Guild with the highest item level does indeed seem to have that success in the long
term. Big scuff faults for Echo this time around, unfortunately. But we will see exactly
how that plays out because you know, it is what it is. It's a tough, it's a... You've
got to deal with what you've got. Yeah. This is a hand that you've been dealt with. This
is a hand that you've been dealt with. This is the loot strategy that you went for,
whether or not Liquid did a better, maybe they did a better strat, or maybe they
they got lucky or whatever it happened to be.
You know, there's nothing you can do about it now.
This is what you've, exactly.
So the echo's been on the other side of it.
How many grief torches did Echo get on that?
Exactly.
They ended up with just like grief torches falling
out of the sky for whatever reason.
And was it the grief torches that made the difference?
No, in my opinion, it wasn't the grief torches.
It made the difference in that tier.
It's nice to have higher level.
It does make you feel better.
It makes it feel like at least you've got
the exact same tools that your opponents do.
Doesn't matter.
Right now we're not dying to item level.
We're dying to getting it by blades.
It doesn't, you know, an extra item level
not going to allow you to survive one of those hits so no and it is not the extra
iron level of course it gave liquid that crazy consistency that they had
yesterday as well so if you jump it on the analysis
description looking at that p3c what it was that was generally murdering them at
that point was sure because that blade in that coming your blades are already
bad in p1 right we've already got blades are like
covering this platform and have been murdering so so many people we've seen
it time and time again certainly if you've been with us for the last
few hours. But now we've got that incredibly condensed platform at the end. The hole is
missing in the middle, you're trapped into the small section and as you saw with Revez
there, barely any room to maneuver when those blades come in. As we go for a replay of
me, I put it to the wrong bottom there, but that's okay. So it's obviously so much
more condensed. All that room is gone and the room is filled with blades and you
find that pixel perfect spot in which we've seen people like Saul using add-ons to actually
give them a little dot in the middle of the screen showing exactly where their character's
hitbox is. It's going to be vital to be paying attention to those kind of things because that
phase is only going to get worse. We're going to have more essences all over the floor,
where we drop in them, where we're going to be making sure they're going to be
picked up by the right people, all those kinds of things. What are you looking at
there, Al?
So yeah, I'm having a little bit of a look at the logs and it seems that the majority
of the death I actually should be able to show this bit hold on give me one moment I'm a professional
if you want to grab up but uh but uh but there we go the walk off logs page production um you can
see here that the majority I'm just focusing on phase three here none of the previous steps so you
can see canyx dying to the royal shackles there that is basically one of the tethers were not
put near the ads at the beginning of that um phase so instead of having all the tethers
surrounded by the place where the majority of our damage was instead one of them was at the
edge of the room because we were probably a little bit lost in the source. So because of that, it
lasted for a long time, you can see how many people it ended up taking out. We lost Mivoka,
Sol, Kersh, Canucks, all to that web. Those shackles just because of how spread out we were.
Eventually, Prof Vapor taking out everyone else here, but you can just see that one mechanic
going in slightly the wrong place, how quickly it cascaded and having these sort of conversations
beforehand to make sure we know where those ads are supposed to go, where exactly we're
we're going to place it how we're going to survive that damage is the thing that is going to lead to a great time. Yes,
I've got a question. Yes, I think I've discovered the issue. Yep. According to these logs, right?
So canyx for example, yep, royal shackles null detonation and of course that dreadful presence
So that led to in taking 8.4 million damage. Yes, but you only got healed for 1.5. Yeah, that's not enough
Tell it to the healers
Skill issue. Yeah
But yeah, it's the snowball effects of having that royal shackle be in the wrong place not naturally getting cleaved down
They're already hard-swapping at that point when they all died to those four ads
So they it needs to be in the cleave
Do you remember seeing how crazy the webblades were during that particular phase though the fact that we only had one death already?
Like two minutes into the phase is just testament to how locked in they were during that phase
And also make sure they dodge everything eventually it going down to now
Which is very understandable considering how messy that area of the room is at the time
Yeah, incredibly well played. It was very scuffed though
It was pure echo
You know the whole idea of just going and let's be chaotic and then see how far we can go the old school fashion rather than it being kind of a
Bit more calm and collected nowadays. It was full scam. Let's go
100% so yeah
That was the way that it died will have a little bit of a replay of that phase to you relatively soon
fingers crossed but I'm gonna head back over from the macro now. Come and sit over here. Thank you Max for all for that
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Oh, yeah.
From all the Racer 1st is, as the roster changes.
So I've got ones with like deep shades on.
I'm like, oh, Fabo was there.
Do remember as the roster and the team evolves over time
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That's pretty good.
I've seen them once.
Yeah, no good, but at least they are found to be look for.
Yeah, at least they are found to be look for,
they're probably up there,
some really official ones or licensed ones,
which are really, really good.
So check it out.
Great way, great and simple way of decorating your place,
because they're magnetic,
they don't leave any marks on your walls,
you put a sticker on, you stick your magnet on,
and then when you finish, you take them down,
you wall this one.
And I'm notoriously terrible at those sorts of tasks,
and even I can do it.
Yes, I'm swappable, which is what I really like.
I just won't mind around a lot.
So yeah, you can have a few of them.
If you have just a couple of spots on your wall,
just have a few displays to the side,
you can just put it in a cupboard or somewhere really easy
because of the way that they just find it.
Yeah, I have a box that just has them in to sort them out.
Because sometimes I'm like, you know what?
I think last week I had little nightmares,
Elden Ring, Bioshock.
That's quite a nice selection.
I've got a really cool one.
Yeah, I've been building up all of the last couple of years.
Oh.
Let's see where we go.
Hello.
What's this then?
We're going for a walk, Alex.
what is this then what was that then i don't know did they pull while we were talking no that was
perfectos character and they're doing something maybe we weren't supposed to see that who knows
you saw nothing you didn't see anything there you go me casting my spell
i was benched he wouldn't be doing anything he's sucking a little 11 man looking over there
There's a little 11 man run. I probably wouldn't show perfect those pubs just in case
Omnis curious and curious I would say but if you're probably trolling they're probably full memes
Just there on a character that he knows he's not going to bring which is any of his characters right now
Unfortunate. I'm giving him grief. It was lovely to have him on the couch though yesterday
Perfecto joining you for quite a while as well giving some wonderful insight. It was nice. It didn't go even after the hot chip challenge
Like dude, I'm back in he actually I think what he says you forgot how fun it is
To be on the couch and shooting the breeze because he'd done that before a long old time ago, right?
I think it's first time he's done the couch with me was
It was off damn so yeah quite a while back a long time
So yeah, no, but if you are just joining us though echo getting the very best pull of the day thus far
They're very best pull of all time thus far after a little bit of a rut that they went to and buy a little bit
I mean like a few hours, but hopefully it has broken them out of it. They are doing a lot of review right now
I got to refresh themselves on phase three. Yeah, they need to because they did so much work on phase three in the morning
They have these long meetings. This is exactly what we're gonna do in phase three get ready for phase three any second now
This is the hundred percent the plan remember all these 20 steps
Four hours later. Do you still remember what we're doing in phase three because we haven't seen it yet?
It's like yeah, so all that information has unfortunately fallen on to the floor
but it is something that they're looking to pick back up.
Especially Faze wants to do their ready one move.
Yep.
And that is classic echo in a nutshell.
I said to you, I can feel it coming.
Yeah.
Like, is this what's going to happen?
Is they're just going to go, oh, and they're just going to break through,
and then they're all locked in and dialed in.
It needs to be the switch that they flip now though,
because we can't go back to that Faze one thing again,
because assuming that Liquid continue to pull the rate that they did yesterday,
that is a powerhouse that is going to be roundpaging
and ripping this boss to shreds over time
and being able to get the boss lower and lower and lower
whilst Echo, if they spend their time just kind of
floundering around in phase one
and getting all up in their heads and things,
that's a great way of losing the race.
And you know, they need to not only catch up,
they need to exceed where liquid are.
And it's certainly possible, they have the plans,
they have the skill, they just need to be able
to switch on and pull it off.
And hopefully after that last pull,
they are in the mood to do just that.
Yeah, if they're fully focused again
in phase three right now in their conversations,
then we should be able to see them like, okay, let's go.
I obviously, this goes down to my word
with Roger Brown that did this.
It's a gold credit.
Oh yeah, there you go.
Didn't work.
You can thank Mike.
I think it's actually chat's Blalatath choice.
I think so, too.
Blalatath is an excellent emote.
When I see Blalatath, I type Blalatath.
So good.
So yeah, sure.
It looks like we're gonna be staying on
for a little bit until we're dimmed in.
That's what I like to see,
hopefully as long as they jump into the balls.
It seems to be clear, production.
I'm gonna tell us that lab.
They just asked that we're okay to go for dinner.
We've had one good pool in five hours.
You've got them right, we're ready to go.
They start pulling good now.
We're in.
We're gonna stay here, we're holding.
I think we should take a quick toilet break.
Really quick.
Because they're gonna start pulling again
while they're doing wine time right now.
It gives us two minutes to have a toilet break
and then we'll lock in until dinner.
Yeah, so listen to some music.
We'll be back in a sec.
These situations, I will be alive like.
I'm taking you home. I never felt something like this before. Time after time. Maybe I'm losing my mind, but I know I'm not.
Gentlemen, and if you didn't notice what just happened, they did not send Lost on platform to the change in call.
Exciting things! So now we've got to reprogg.
AHHHH!
It's not reprogg. It's not. We just got it.
Bloodlust has just allowed us to skim over some of the mistakes, get out of that phase five seconds earlier than we otherwise would've.
But we can stay there extra five seconds. We know that we can do it. They know that they can do it.
And there's an invigorated sense of purpose here.
Let's go!
Back in the SK Gaming facility here in Cologne.
It is awesome to see there's a electricity in the air that was otherwise not here beforehand.
They know that it's doable.
The slump, that big ditch that was in the Valley of Despair, we have clambered out of it
and are hopefully heading up to higher peaks of success.
We will find out whether or not they're able to do it though.
Here we go, having a little bit of a replay of-
You're like clean up until this point in CP2.
Is this a phase three? Oh, this is phase two of that last session.
Yeah, this is phase two without loss.
So they got up here and now they started to work on this,
got to get through that shield.
They've got to send so much damage into it,
baiting those lines away from the raid.
So this is where they lost people
because it's the first time they've ever tried to do this
without blood loss to carry not only the VPS,
but the healing aspects of this area of the fight.
Obviously much easier with all that extra haste
and they did really well out.
They really did. Both of the ads going down
with a few seconds left on the shield at the latest.
you can just see bit by bit just slowly bleeding out on one of the sides.
So unfortunately the output healing just not available to them.
But you see you only lost two players, three players on that side as we went up.
Just a tiny bit more healing, a little bit more output needed from the healers
or some sort of defensive cooldown needed.
That's probably what they were trying to min-max in that intermission.
Why we struggle going into that intermission so much is because we
really wanted it for that point.
So an exceptionally good thing to see from Echo there, that that is only
few small changes away from being successful. And hopefully if they can lock that in, get everyone
into the last phase, it doesn't even matter if we have battle res that's available or not, it'll be
ideal if we do, but if we can get into that last phase with the majority of people alive,
with bloodlust available, we could see some disgusting extra bits of problems.
That was the word that was in my head actually, there's a very real chance. They have dinner
in approximately 25 minutes, and I think the goal right now is give them a really dirty poll
that they get really far. The boss HP will drop dramatically along with that bloodlust because
they'll be able to clean all those ads. Those four ads they did manage to kill without a bloodlust.
They did it. They killed all the other ads and obviously they had some issues with one shackle
that actually brought them down in that phase three. So if they can send this and go into dinner
with a renewed sense of attrition and a renewed sense of violence in their soul,
that's what they need. They need to feel angry and like this boss deserves to die.
called their mother of all sorts of stuff is a mouthy mouthy spider yep if they could do that
then we might see something really good and an echo that we've been looking for we've all been
searching for for the last few hours and maybe they have arrived yeah we will have to see as
you can see right now they are spending their time doing a little bit more of you hopefully this
points of downtime isn't ruining that momentum but if they are locked in this entire thing you
never seen all the players so switched on as they're looking into their other screens you
You know what I mean beforehand? You were kind of mean about it.
I was like, it was Roger where he was just like having a little bit of a yap where the rest of the team was like, oh, God, let's just pull the boss.
You know, sometimes that does happen, even if Roger is giving you the most beautiful meal.
If you ain't hungry for it, you ain't going to eat it.
No, if you're not interested in this, like, oh, this isn't for me.
This isn't for me, whatever.
I'm not interested.
I know my job.
I've done it a million times or 194 times, you should say.
If you're not zoned in, it was weird because they clearly had the vods up on the screen that they were supposed to be watching.
when the players are just like...
Yep.
It's something now that they can't necessarily hope
to be getting the frequency of the pools that they were after
this time around in terms of...
If you look at the whole day as a picture,
the first part of today hasn't been what they wanted at all.
It's not been great.
It's a bit like your painting.
It's a little bit of a mess. However,
they know now they've got the rest of the day ahead of them
that if they are able to switch on,
There's nothing stopping them from getting that God pool where they can get that little
bit further if they can get in that last phase with the Bloodlust.
They can't think, oh man, Liquid getting like 20 odd plus pools going into the last phase
with everyone alive.
We're not going to have that today, Woe is me.
Sure, that is kind of sad, but there's nothing we can do about that.
What we can do is focus on the future, make sure that we're ready for it.
They're doing everything they can that when they make, to make the most of these phase
threes, so that when hopefully we're going to be getting there very, very often,
they're going to be able to do a lot with it.
We need to see the Echel World Championship.
Very exciting times.
We need it.
We've wanted it.
We've yearned for it.
We've waited for it.
Patiently.
We've blalatasked for it.
We've dispaired for it.
We've lived through these wipes with you.
We're right alongside you and now it is time to turn up a notch.
So what we're looking for next, guys, is getting through that platform too, blood
lustless, comfy, into platform three, and then seeing what the addition of the blood
Bluster those awkward overlaps in that final phase does for echo will something weird happen at 30% will be something weird happen
It's right except we don't know or is they going to discover in fact?
No, nothing weird happens and we have to figure out a way of getting this HP bar to zero
That might be worth talking about actually the the future of how the rest of this progress can go
Because if we are looking at a boss right now that dies at 0% and say that we got another minute and a half or so of
Phase three
We don't know what the end of this phase looks like just yet.
If it continues along a similar sort of pattern that we've seen on Heroic and Normal mode,
we are going to be getting a final wave in.
We're going to have far too many debuffs to be trying to take through this portal.
Basically, the fourth wave is going to kill us all.
There's nothing we can do about that.
But we're on wave 2.
The boss is at, like, 44%.
So even if we managed to make it incredibly clean,
we managed to squeeze an extra 5% in phase 1.
Could you imagine? 5% extra percent when they're already slamming pretty hard.
Okay, we managed to do that. So we're going into the last phase with 60%.
have bloodlust and we're funneling into the boss we might be able to get like 20% that
sounds pretty good. What? You know what I mean? That you get to the point where like
I'm not going to say oh it's mathematically impossible because players have been so on
point with the tuning for these top end guilds. Obviously for everyone else but like it's
for the very very top end they have constantly made bosses that have been killable through
a means like really really pushing the guilds to their limits this boss I
assume the fact that both guilds have been working on it for a while they can
see exactly how much output they've been sending the value hasn't had any
changes done to it at all speaks to me the blizzard have faith that the group
is able to take it down yeah I agree with you entirely everything we've
seen we laughed when we saw kind of as his HP and yeah well I've just made it
bigger yeah take it down a little bit but they were doing nuanced little
changes which turned out to be the perfect amount of HP. They did the same with Brute Twister.
If anything, Silkencourt was a little too easy, probably after the PTR feedback, that
they got a little nerf when they were like, okay guys, you're not one tanking it. We're
sick of you guys doing this. This is not the play. They did a little nerf to say,
okay, you two tanking it, we'll give you a little HP change. All good.
But with Ansarac they've been like yeah, it's all good. We know what's coming. The Blizzard knows. We don't know
And if it's if their math is on point there
I find it highly questionable given what we have seen with the difficult bosses in this raid so far
That they have 20% out. Yeah, that doesn't sound correct to me
Yeah
So either there is ways of increasing our damage
Maybe we have seen it before in the past where a mythic last phase
Changes its like sort of rhythm a lot towards the end. We've seen things like
Rige along was it the last boss before the Jailer where it's just like I'm casting my last ability
It's 30 seconds long Lamau, you know, and you just sit there. It's like, okay
We just need the boss so then you know who knows what this boss is gonna do at the very end in terms of
Changing its rhythm not even talking about like mythic only cope or anything right now because it's wonderful
out of B and I'm sure I speak for chat although Diodor will speak for everyone at chat obviously,
but it'll be awesome to see something like that just as a viewer being able to see cool new mythic
changes done to a boss that you know is otherwise unseen these mythic only phases and whatnot
that'll be awesome to see after an entire expansion without it let's pretend that that's not
going to be the case because otherwise oh no I must actually get a point yourselves there has to
be something that they are able to do in order to increase their damage but we're not at that
point yet we're still exploring we shouldn't worry too much about boss health we should look at the
duration that we're spending in that phase. Yeah exactly Alex is totally correct right now we just
need to see the remainder of that fight that's it we need to we have not yet seen the natural
culmination of this fight no matter how we look at it no guild has seen it yet where it's like
that is the end we haven't seen it we know it exists somewhere somehow but nobody has seen it
yet, which means there's a mystery. And we talked a lot during Heroic Week and in the
early Mythic Week, the answer had unanswered questions based on what was in the Dungeon Journal.
We knew everything was happening and everything else, but Answerac had unanswered questions,
which for the most part have been answered now. We now know how the bombs are working.
We now know how a lot of things are working. But there's still, at least for me, there is
an air of uncertainty surrounding the Queen of the Narubians. And whatever it is going to be,
her reign will be coming to an end in the next little few days today tomorrow. I don't know man.
That's the whole part of the race. We don't know. But it is certainly going to be a there shimmying.
This is it. Oh, you can see them when the majority of the raiders jumping backwards and
forwards. That means we're going to be pulling soon. There we go. It's an assy raid. Let's do it.
Let's send it. So might very well be worth as we're going into this pool, maybe having a little
bit of a loose overview of the mechanics as we go through it. Something that we haven't
spoken about a little while, just a little step by step. So yeah, sure, as we're kind
of having a go just for you at home if you haven't been paying attention to all the prog, welcome.
It's going to hopefully get a little bit spicy as we go step by step covering some of the
heroic and just generally what the boss is doing, not worrying too much about the
nitty-gritty, but at least the overview. You can see the boss at the very beginning
going to hit the tank with a big old hit that does some raid damage and also spawn
some swirlies. Space in this phase is key, so you're going to be making sure we're
getting everything nice and grouped up. Next up is a set of routes. These routes
are going to be largely cheesed by the players using movement like such as
freedoms and things like that to get out of it. Also spawning a bunch of goo
followed up by these webs which have been hellish. This is the main reason that
we've been having people die of these webs that have been going out. You see
these two little circles on the ground. You want to have half the group in
each circle. One person's going to go stand in the center bit which knocks
them up and over this wave that is coming in. So that's largely what
you're doing, you're trying to be heavy on the space management, you're going to be stacking
up all of the AOEs as close together as you can, you can see players all funneling in
here for the next set of swirlies getting it all done, otherwise you're just dodging
a ton of these blades that are coming out, making sure the roots are nice and close to
one another in order to either be broken out or breaking yourself out and then
just doing little trampolines over the waves.
Yeah, the root break, even though the roots can be DPS but they have 30 million
HP each which makes them kind of untenable from a DPS perspective because they overlap with the ever-increasing amount of little green
Circles that Alex was talking about earlier
So the first one is two then they get three then they get four and that's when they're going to be getting out of this phase
You can see now
There's three of these that they're positioning there the boss and one that's a little further away for the range camp to deal with
Yeah, so this is an ever-increasing thing and what you'll notice over the course of this fight is the overlaps
of these mechanics get tighter and tighter and tighter so you in the moment
we're actually going to see roots with the toxins exactly the same that was a
really nasty overlap of blades so the combat res has been found of their
holy palette so you see this roots comes out but it's actually the next
one that's even worse so if you had to DPS those out not only is that a ton
of damage not going into the boss but it's also damage that is unnecessary so
So they have swapped to things like gnomes that comes with the escape artist ratio, allowing
to break out of it, of course with some natural abilities in order to break out of it too.
But what you're going to see is a slight different here.
Now they're going to put these toxins out.
Now there's four of these toxins, each of them applying a separate dot to the raid
and roots at the same time.
So they have to drop the roots here because even though they break them without damaging
them, they still leave the webbing on the floor which spreads and fills the room.
Then there's blades as the toxins have dropped and then they need to get in there immediately
outside of the blades to then begin the knockup. And this is why this section of fight is so brutal.
Anybody who activates the knockup, it only takes one player to activate them, so they're going to
wipe it here because the tank's died, is then given a giant bomb where they have to run away.
So it's kind of interesting how this mechanic works, we've never played before, is yes,
the whole raid stands in those small circles, but actually it only detonates when one person
steps into the center of it. It was actually something I was really worried about when
when leading a pug on normal answer
because people are not really getting that.
Like, oh, go stand in the circle.
It's like, stand in the circle and it's very small,
but don't touch the middle.
Yes.
Because I left that to me.
It's like, let me touch the middle.
It's like, you guys just get in the circle
and don't do anything.
But that is, it's a steady increase in difficulty
because the blades themselves all want to shot you.
Getting, not getting knocked up at the right time,
if the wave hits you, you're dead.
You've got a stacking point.
You've got a stacking dot of poison anyway.
And then it combines and all overlaps at the exact same time which leads to wipes like this because it's so much happening
The room is filled with blades
You've just dropped toxins and you've just broken roots and you still need to get into those correct circles to get knocked up in time
Which is tough. It is really tough. Like each individual mechanic not the most crazy stuff in the world
It's generally try and make the room clean watch out for blades and then jump over the the nova like if you want to make it
as baseline as possible, purely the ever-increasing amount of the mechanics, as well as the craziness
of the way that these overlaps occur can really make some horrible pain points for the group.
And it's something they've struggled with a lot over the course of today, but you can
see them getting ready for another pull now. Simply, that just went a little bit pear-shaped.
They know that there's nothing really else to say about it. It's just a grand scheme.
The two that needs to be cooked up, they simply go again. Nothing to be said. Just
keep pulling. It should be pointed out on top of that as well. It's all about space saving. You
can see how tight they get these initial pools. So when the tank is hit that spawns little pools,
they also make a giant pool in themselves as well. And everything here spreads. It does.
It's constantly spreading and filling room. You can see those grey webs are also spreading. So
you can see they drop these here because then they're going to get knocked up and that's going
to leave pools behind. And the whole idea is when they finish this, which will be approximately
shortly after the four knockups occur,
because there's only two there.
Then they have a very limited amount of space remaining
in the room in order to break the shield.
Answrek will put a shield over herself
and start dragging the Raiders inside her hitbox.
And if you hit the inside, you're instantaneously dead.
It hits you for something like 20 million damage
or something stupid.
It's for non-damage.
You can do it.
Yeah, you just die.
That's the whole thing.
It's like you will die.
And they need to leave enough room through this phase.
In fact, if we can just stick here with Sol for a while,
because you can actually see that,
that's that dot I was talking about.
See that pink circle in the middle of this character?
That is telling him exactly where his hitbox is.
Now, when you see blades like this, that's really useful.
It certainly is.
It's super useful to have that information.
Nice little adaptation there from the guys,
because that was not the weak or a marker.
He was assigned to go moving,
but he just said,
yo, I got this corner one.
Someone else get the other ones,
because I could chill out here and move over
as he gets knocked over again.
And that's the third one. That's not the really scary one yet
This does get scary because you can see when they get knocked when that detonation goes off these huge green globules
Go across the platform. I'm sure you guys can see they are increasing in size as they travel across
So they are going to jump off here. So this is a bit of like stop thinking about phase three so much
We need to get through phase one to get there
It's quite funny because of course last time we had a successful pull into phase three
We had the same thing where we cook for a long time and then unfortunately we fell into a well of despair
Afterwards, I think this isn't going to be something that is repeated as it is something that we should be able to break out of
They know that they are capable of going into that last phase and doing some really meaningful work without having it entirely
Oh, 6k overkill
Oh
46k overkill
Players have breathed God and died players have around six million health just to get some context to that. Yeah
That's so he was
That's very cruel.
4 million from the frothy toxin
was obviously what took them low
but as the heels were coming out
it was just a little 2 million acid explosion
which is fully expected
that actually hit them that took them over by 46K.
It's like any healing landing there would have been fine.
He's rising and says
dude god damn it man
You need more from me, eh?
Alright
Oh, dearie mate.
Ready check going out. This is turbo rapid pulls now.
They are sending it as soon as they possibly can.
They just need to just be slamming it.
They just need to get the reps in order to just get into that last phase.
They know exactly what they want to do in phase one.
They know exactly what they want to do in phase two.
They've got a really loose-ish plan for phase three,
which it's clear in one person, so I'm sure,
but they need to practice it in order to get it down.
If they can get an excellent ball before dinner,
they will be incredibly, incredibly happy.
You don't want to fire. Yeah, it'll be a complete change, which is what they need.
They want to be ensuring that they can get ahead of liquid.
As you said, if you just stay on par with liquid, that's no good.
That does not work.
The liquid has the time advantage on that.
They need to be ahead and it needs to happen now.
And they know that.
So it's time to play well.
You've had your off time, boys. It's now time to kill.
And at least find out what the hell is happening in this fight.
Because that knowledge still is a mystery to everybody,
regardless of where you are on which side of the ocean it does not matter. Nobody knows.
It could be anything. It could be nothing. We have no idea. But they will play like
they did. You can see there actually, Nice means is the one who activated it. He's the
one who moved into the middle. Cocker means he's got his defensive up. That's Blur.
His Cocker disappears.
Ah, it does happen to the best of us. As you are Blurry Cocker.
I refied no longer talking about anything.
the one thing that I can be sure on though is that we're in for an immense race. I've got this feeling
that I think that this boss is going to be incredibly difficult allowing both groups to be working at
an incredibly tight race towards the end trying to get this boss down. Super excited to be able to
see it all. So if you're watching now do get yourself prepared for a wonderful evening,
probably somewhat of a weekend of a crazy crazy race to behold it is um yeah I'm
getting frag vibes dude I think I think I think I noticed that a few times but I
really think we did hear a message from the devs when they made frags like we
weren't even sure this was possible to do and then they went oh you did it huh
interesting well what about this yeah and I think genuinely I would love to
find out the next time I get the opportunity to speak to the guys at Blizzard and the rare chance I do is like how much fun
were you guys having?
Seeing them figure it out work it out and that was a little too much damage
See the healing kind of fell behind a little bit there and Fraggo paid the price
Lots of work happening with these evokers in this race shielding people
Rescuing people doing all kinds of crazy things spreading everywhere their mobility their utility kit all their Batman Batman stuff that they have
Oh, yeah is being pushed to the absolute max and then you get debuffed and I need to position that correctly
Baiting it out and trying to get it on to those guys in the pre-positioned way. That's the third one
Now this is the fourth. So this is the horrible one now guys. Yeah, this is the really rough one here
Oh, I can see Mastin is very low gets a snipe heal there. Looks like it'd be alright
Yes
Now there's four waves of globules pouring across the platform
But what makes this even worse guys you do that raid damage countdown in two seconds
is that it absolutely gets annihilated here when the intermission begins.
Ah, we lost Mara's.
That's such a shame.
There wasn't a battle res available actually for Zartie anyway, so unfortunately that would have been a wipe.
You can just see how rough that overlap going into that intermission is,
how tight they're playing it, likely saving quite a lot of their personal cooldowns,
making sure that they are available for that second platform.
Not necessarily personal cooldowns, but maybe some of the raid cooldowns,
some of their output might be saved for the upcoming phase two, which is no joke as well.
Just getting through that last bit of the phase one and going into the intermission incredibly incredibly deadly. Yeah
Like if you talk through that 10 second period
Whole raid filled with roots leaves webs everywhere. Yeah straight into blades that are trying to chop you up
immediately into four
Detonations covering you in four poison dots which are ticking on you for more damage than they have done in the entirety of phase one
And the 10 seconds later while meanwhile in that 10 seconds
You are dodging four waves of enormous green globules that one shots you immediately
You are hit with the one of the hardest hitting abilities in this entire raid and the healers can't really stand still
There's just nowhere to go if we follow Ryzen on the next pull
It might be really interesting to see the movement or even thanna if we follow what the healers have to do here because it's
Incredibly hard to not only top the raid after with all that poison damage just ticking on them
but then they get hit with the web dragon.
And by the way, that is the weakest web dragon
because every time the boss drags you in submission,
it increases its damage on you.
And so the point where it gets you the fourth time,
everybody in the raid will be hit
for about 7 million damage each.
And funny enough, although it is the weakest instance
of damage from a drag from the boss,
I do think it's probably the most lethal.
Agreed.
Because you do have your dots timing out
and one of the wonderful things about those dots
is that when they time out,
do not go sweetly into the knife. They give you a big old slap on the back. See you later mate as they leave
doing a ton of damage at the same time. So not only is the boss activating that burst of damage on you,
but also the dots are timing out at the same time making it incredibly difficult to deal with. They're doing things
like AMZ and a darkness on the floor trying to make sure that they survive through it, which is incredibly rough.
So no, incredible.
Incredible that any group is able to get through this thus far
It's a very very difficult phase especially when you're trying to save some of your resources going into phase 2
But it is also something that we need to make sure that we get consistently
We can't just have a phase 3 pool every two hours
That is not going to be enough for this fight
It needs to be we get in phase 3 more often than we don't that's something that we haven't achieved yet
It's something they certainly need to be working on
For this but it looks like they're going to be doing just that as we do head straight into
another pool right now. What pool number is this? Pool number 198. 198. We're almost at a big 200 mark.
We're almost there. There are a few pools behind Liquid. Not surprising Echo does like to have these
little wine times in between. They tend to pull a little less, but with a little bit more planning.
That's how they prefer to play. But we're going to follow Ryson along here and you'll see how
well timed the second that damage lands immediately dropping that huge heel. He's got a
dancer down here. He's got Toxin on him. So he now needs to position themselves for the
the knock up while still healing this raid that's not landing in a perfect
place but frankly it's early in the fight so it's not the end of the world can be
fixed for sure because they've got an upcoming liquefy that they'll then be
able to fill in that spot over by the blue wild marker not too sad but the
amount of healing I've already stressed out I want you to watch 20 seconds yeah
guys I want you to not don't focus on what he's pressing because you might
not be familiar with a priest in any way shape or form whatever I want you
to watch just his spells spinning while doing all this movement there is
zero point that Ryzen and the other healers are not also putting out something important
and healing this raid, while simultaneously having to choose who they're healing, right?
They're constantly swapping, they're mousing over, they're doing all kinds of stuff, they're
trying to AoE heal as much as possible, but there's not a point where they cannot press
their buttons during this period of time and also line up in a way that DPS don't
have to for the exact moments that massive damage input is coming onto the raid in
in order to counter it as fast as possible
because there is no time.
There is no time in between this to allow,
see that, look how he's casting that at the exact point
in order to make sure that's happening.
Then maneuvering, getting the halo going
while simultaneously dodging these giant blub-lub-lubs
moving across, getting his halo back into position.
It is, welcome back to healing in the playing, Ryson.
Yeah.
Welcome back indeed.
Oh man, I just had a horrifying thought.
You know that the boss's health force quite high, yeah?
Noticed.
And we're thinking, how am I optimizing the future?
You're thinking less healers.
It's way to go.
I mean, there's a checklist.
Like a lot of people are confused.
How terrifying would this fight be with three healers, man?
Look at the output from all of them combined.
Yes, we got the evokers doing crazy stuff.
But like, we've done stranger things.
It's a simple checklist if you don't
meet the damage check and your DPS are performing admirably.
Like they're up there with their simulated basic DPS.
And those solutions are drop a tank, drop a healer.
That is it.
There is no mystery to this.
It's as simple as that.
This is the most dangerous over.
So watch Ryzen now.
This is with all four of the globules.
Ah!
You see?
Like, did he move wrong?
No.
He didn't do anything wrong.
And it still can just punish you so hard.
They will have to combat res to get Ryzen up.
And of course in his angel form,
he is still able to heal the raid.
So of all the people who could have died there,
that wasn't that bad.
No.
Right?
Like it still healed for a while.
You could say oh actually if you take the time to have a think about it
Maybe you could have dodged it backwards, but you got to make those split second decisions and sometimes you just choose wrong
It is what it is. I'm a very very different. Yeah, you had a bomb in front of him
He had everything else going on there
Like it was the play but that doesn't mean it's over for them again of all the people who could have died there
That is kind of the one the shield should be going down here 14% left on the shield
And we should once again be entering the intermission and what we're looking for because things can go incredibly wrong here
That's fine. It happens. But what we're looking for is to try and complete platform two without the bloodlust
With everybody alive. That's what we're hoping for. I don't think it'll be this poll
But who knows let's keep stay with rice in here to see this nightmare world
And I think we've probably just put off anybody considering being a mythic raid healer for about 25 years
It is a very very demanding and sometimes not very
What's the coast?
Ratitude filled job, but yeah, you also don't get loot for your trouble either
No, you literally the last to be at loot. No, and everyone thinks you're a little bit weird
You smell funny, but honestly healers are the hardest
Roll to fill in the world first scene
Recruiting a good healer is so hard DPS
It's like your M plus Qs guys like when you put your M plus key into that menu
You have DPS signing up for days
But a good healer who can cope with environments like this is so hard now here we go lock in boys and girls
Let's have a look. Here we go. We'll bloodlust be sent. Let's see what they're thinking about right now
Let's find out. Looks like if they get a bloodlust they should have done it by now
So a little bit rough here right some a little about position managing to get in the right place
That's nothing to do with bloodlust. Yeah, that was a miss portal on the opposite side there
How unfortunate I think it was their side actually because we saw Velo came through
Velo came through
We did send our person through.
That is something you really want to avoid.
I, yeah, that's a little bit of a...
It's like an easy way to wipe.
Don't get me wrong, it's a quick way of wiping,
but it should also be something
that we're really trying to avoid at this point.
We've done it enough that we know how to get through.
I don't know if maybe the person who had the debuff
was also the person who was assigned
to go through the portal of the assigned time.
If they had to use it during the submission.
Because that one, the first portal to take
actually really far away after you go up the bridge. Yeah, you want high movement classes.
Very fast. That's why you sent Velo through. You know, Velo is on that evoker. He has really
good ways of getting really far. They'll have somebody, I'm not sure, who's assigned to it.
I'm going to look on the assignments. Um, let me go out and see who that is.
It's impossible to know. Futile knowledge. Might be, if you've got... I know it used to be
Gingy well hopeful or Revvers I think nope that'll be it could be Kush or nice memes perhaps
Kush is platform two I believe so I'm not too sure if I'm honest sort of a little bit
confusing those ERT notes being a little undecipherable for a plebian like me
and it seems that indeed they have decided that now is the time to take
themselves some food break as they've done well they weren't able to get back
in phase three after they tried after that very successful pull. However, hopefully a little
bit of a food break time to kind of let some of that
pent up sort of frustration kind of wash away with some of Julia's absolutely fantastic food
here in the SK Gaming Magenta facility here in Cologne. It's going to be good.
It's good. Bye for me now. It certainly is. We've had absolutely a wonderful time. Thank you all
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Everyone, welcome back to the stream.
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and I'm excited to tell you about my company Star Forge Systems.
When we founded Star Forge Systems,
we had one goal in mind,
make the best computers possible for playing video games.
Now, I don't personally play video games.
I just react to TikToks, but...
Wait, this... No, this is not true.
Like, I do play games. Who wrote this?
I play games a lot of time.
I play Diablo, New World, and...
And well, I don't just watch other people play those games.
I also play them too.
I play them all the time.
You know what?
I own this company.
I don't have to take this sh**.
I'm leaving.
And the logo is a hammer.
Hey, Jyn, welcome back to the Race World First in Narrowborough Palace.
My name is Jesse.
I am joined today not only by the lovely and inscrutable Jordan, but also by perhaps
the single most enigmatic figure in Echo, the one man about whom no one knows anything
and he likes it that way.
His name is Grimm.
Grimm appearing on the public broadcast for the first time I can remember.
I love how you added the disclaimer just in case.
Why sir, are you here?
Well, Jesse, I heard some disturbing things.
Oh god, I know what this is.
What have you done?
Care to elaborate on your run?
Well, okay.
So it's possible that Grim asked us how we take care of our passwords.
Oh, okay.
Minds 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
See, that's good.
Is that okay?
Yes.
I have different passwords for every application, but I can't remember them.
So how do you solve that problem?
Well, like every person of my age, I type them all on a Google document from which
I can copy paste them as needed. Is that not okay? That is definitely not okay. That is really bad
It's not the worst that I heard from people here, but it's really bad
So what you should do as every human on this planet
You should get
Get the password manager. It is a password manager. No, it isn't. That's a text file
It manages my password.
No, it manages your password in clear text.
Yes.
And I know for a fact, right now, you're logged into that PC right there, which is unlocked.
Probably streaming.
I've been through it.
True.
Yeah.
And I can just walk up there and now I become Jesse.
Yep.
Yeah.
I wouldn't wish that pain on you though.
I mean, wait until you find out about the loan.
So what should I do instead?
You should get the password manager.
We here at Echo use NordPass and it's super simple, it just works, it works really well
for old people and you can always recommend it to your parents or grandmothers.
Both your brothers?
No, nobody that young uses a text file that I'm aware of.
I'm only 39.
No, look, you just gave me.
Okay, all right all right
And what will that do for me? Well first of all it will have a really convenient way to not only
Store your passwords, but also when you're signing up for things you can it generates the password automatically for you
So you need to remember one password, which is not your Google Drive password
Which I also don't remember it's on the list
Okay, so explain to me how this works. I'm really curious. Okay. Let's say that you
We actually did have this problem, didn't we, because you couldn't log in.
Yes. This happened at the last race to World First.
This happened like three weeks ago.
No, that was Discord.
And why did you go to your password?
I don't know any of my passwords.
What happens when you forget your Google Docs password?
My laptop automatically logs in.
What happens when your laptop gets stolen by me in ten minutes?
That would be bad.
can we not do that anymore? Please don't steal my laptop.
You know what's even worse? What? Imagine you go to your favorite place. Yeah.
Because you're American. Indeed. It's McDonald's. The shooting range. Which has
Wi-Fi. Your problem is I could take this so much further but they can't. I just
don't want to. Yeah. But let's say that you go to your favorite place, Starbucks.
Okay, and Starbucks has this like free Wi-Fi zone there
Anytime the free Wi-Fi join it
You're doing this on purpose. What is the issue? You're doing this on purpose, right?
Yeah, you are
I do that. I do that if I use their Wi-Fi. It means I don't lose minutes on my phone
Yeah
every free Wi-Fi? Pretty much. Did you see our free Wi-Fi here? Yes. You use it a lot? Yes. I know.
So basically this is a problem, okay? Step one, first you're in a Starbucks, that's a problem.
I'm not, I'm at the range. That has a Starbucks right next to it, it's the same building, let's be
honest. So you're in Starbucks, you drip your on your Grande Moca Lacha 14, right? And what do
you need to do you need to pee okay and because that's actually not true I don't
even public breastlings but we'll take it like let's say that you do okay because
I saw you being right here I have to hear like I'm here this isn't even public
it's we are now a family okay okay let's say that you do no theoretically
yeah okay I'll get to you theoretically you go you go pee right
You leave your laptop there because...
I'm stupid.
Yes, right.
Okay.
Step one, you lose your laptop.
But that's not the worst part.
You left your laptop that's connected to an open Wi-Fi.
You know what happens then?
I can come to that same Starbucks,
have a small little router that mimics the Wi-Fi of that Starbucks.
You're gonna automatically connect to it.
And now I have access to all of your traffic,
including that stupid ass dock that you have.
with all my passwords. With all your impassives in it. So you're saying what I
should do is diversify by making multiple password lists across several
different services. Yes. You can only have one or two. Correct. That's exactly what you should do.
Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying. How can NordVPN prevent what you just
described happening with the Wi-Fi? This is the thing. When you connect your VPN
provider, NordVPN in particular, because they checked what they actually do, they
do full end-to-end encryption from their side so even if you connect to my
stupid hotspot right all the traffic that goes to that hot that hotspot will
already be encrypted so you don't get to see the document connected to your
correct spoofie fake Wi-Fi that tricked me to connect to each one. Correct. Is that something that
happens people put out big Wi-Fi to like farm? Did you ever go to like this
This happened last time, it was like a networking convention of some sorts.
And there is one Wi-Fi that is from the convention itself, it's something free, no sponsoring.
But there is also like four of them.
Guess which one is correct?
Your bet is good as mine.
I connect to them all just to make sure that it's...
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Which everyone connects first.
I'll get you.
Don't, don't, don't.
I'll get you.
I heard something.
I've currently been suffering all over the flame.
Yeah, we're not there yet.
I haven't done anything.
But we're not, I'm not done with him.
Yeah.
Okay, I'm still not sure if you're actually messing with me.
That's the problem.
Here's the issue, okay?
I've seen, right, there's other password managers out there.
I think Windows has one by default, right?
I've seen Windows when I log into some new thing, right?
I enroll in Netflix or something, right?
And Windows is like,
do you want to suggest a strong password for you?
I've never done that because then I'm worried I won't.
I haven't. I won't remember it.
Right.
So I create a random one on my document, copy paste it over, and then it's good to go.
You create a random, wait, wait, wait, it's getting better.
You create a random, how do you do that?
Do you do like the face plan method?
That's how I play my rotation.
I know.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't, please don't.
Don't do that.
Just use the code.
If I use the NordVPN password manager, what do I have to do to access my data on
a new device you just log into your account that's it so you remember the
one password you remember one password same that you are kind of doing now
except you're a lot more secure now but here's the question mm-hmm where do I
store that in your brain I believe you can do it it's just one there's no space
alright I I saw you storing a lot of irrelevant info in your brain you can
do one roll of them.
Listen, someday there will be a use for knowing.
No?
No.
OK, I should remember one password instead.
But guess what?
Yes.
When you finally, inevitably, you actually
do get compromised completely, and all of your info
gets leaked everywhere.
I literally get an SMS with your phone number.
Spill it.
There's another service you can use to scrub
that off the internet.
Okay.
Yeah, do you know what that is?
I actually do, because we talked about this earlier,
I think you're talking about Incognito.
I do, I am.
You can definitely use that.
It will scrub all the public info from you
for every source that they can find.
Which is pretty useful.
That's pretty useful, especially if you do what you do.
Don't.
Don't.
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But before I let you go, I have one more question for you.
What is Jordan doing wrong?
Nothing.
What did you do? It's gonna be a lot easier, I don't know because I've actually done a lot of things wrong and I don't know which one you're thinking about.
I'm not worried. We've been connected to the internet here now for three weeks.
Yeah, I have access to everything.
He has access to everything.
I don't know what have I done. I've done many things.
That's actually so bad I can't even say it.
What? I don't know.
I okay there was one time when uh at the last race Jesse was streaming the
caster and POV and I typed in my Spotify password with the camera facing the
keyboard. There's no saving. I forgot the camera was there. I actually did something
similar once when I was buying some kind of race change or something on
closer but I was streaming and forgot to you know cover it and I typed in my
credit card number. That one was fun. No. I'm disgusting the man. You cannot stand
the look of me. You know what's even worse? Yeah. There is a person in this
venue that does something much more diabolical than me. Okay, without
identifying who it is. The heinous miscreant. Yeah. What is the activity
they do? It's actually so much worse than what she did. I didn't think that
was actually possible where they heard it today I I almost had an aneurysm
okay this what they do they have a their discord server okay that they're the
only person in and they type all the passwords in a channel there I use a
discord server in which I'm the only member to keep track of notes and
record yeah that's that's that's that's also bad but you know if someone
got my Google document they'd also know you know all of the main is
conversations you and I have had that I've saved in that server yeah that would be bad
yeah that would be really bad yeah let's not do that so I'm gonna bait you get that
you're gonna force me to get the Nordvik password manager yeah I will right now
actually okay you'll have to help me because I don't know you can do it I
leave I'll have to even you can do it I'll have to get the password manager and
then like go to the websites and like put it in right but to the password
I'm fairly sure you won't know it otherwise.
It auto imports.
It can import?
Yeah.
Another password manager.
Does it import from a Google drive?
I doubt it imports from a Google drive the way that you think it does.
But you can import a CS3.
You can quite easily format that stupid list of yours into like a thing that you can import.
It takes probably like three minutes.
And then you're no longer cursed.
No longer ready to be hacked.
Not even hacked.
I think you're unsavable, but we can try.
Hacking me would be like opening a bottle of water.
Is it sparkling?
Yes.
Yeah, we're in Germany. We don't have non-sparkling water here.
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Enjoy what is likely to be your last glimpse of Grimm on the couch.
I do see a pole going up with a shroud going up, so likely we're about to go straight into P3.
What do you think about that Grimm?
I think I'm going to be here for a lot longer than I would like to.
By here do you mean the couch or in both alone?
Do you want to watch the poll with us?
Yeah!
Let's watch one close, Graham. I think it'd be good.
Now, you are, in addition to the security expert at Echo, you're also one of the primary architects of what Echo actually is.
A lot of people in the chat have this misconception about Echo believing it to be an eSports company dedicated to pursuing a first in an MMO,
when in fact you and I know it to be a software development company.
That is beyond true.
We, it's actually becoming such a meme between us internally
that there was just the other day,
me and Jasper were talking about like,
I don't even remember what it was,
it was something so mind boggling with stupid,
but it was like, oh, how do we do this?
And we talked about it for half an hour.
And then it was like, okay, I'm just gonna do it.
15 minutes later, he comes to me and says, yo, bro,
you know what I found?
We did this like two years ago already.
You had already made that program
and forgotten about it.
Completely.
Do you have a library of software that's been created?
Kind of.
Is it a Google Doc?
No, I'm not making it.
It's not a Google Doc.
That's close.
Can you tell me about your view from a technical and like weak order development
perspective of this fight?
I just see a number and I know how to do math.
Right.
And it's not looking good.
You don't believe in the 0% kill with currently acquirable gear
In about two weeks, I think that is doable
Given that Blizzard has been fairly on point with their tuning this time around
Do you think that means anything about the likelihood of something weird happening at 20% or 30% or?
It's not very much
You're not saying much. Okay. Can you not say much because you are speculating or can you not say much because you have been?
and trying to figure things out and don't want to reveal secrets.
Does it matter?
I think your speculation would be valid to hear.
OK, then let's not speculate.
Unfortunately, we do lose Frago there.
We are at 220 into the fight, which
is the wombo combo, where we get blades into the bombs.
They've already baited forward for those blades.
Everyone dying to a Poison Nova error
makes this a short pull.
Yeah, it's been a little bit of, uh, not regression, but a lot of phase one, uh,
why yesterday.
Tell you the kind of why I watched this.
We have the boys regression.
I'm on the couch.
You can say bad things.
Yesterday night, yesterday night, Echo had a, something like 75% rate of getting
into P2 successfully and also had their best pull getting into P3.
Today has been regression.
Yeah.
It is what it is.
Yeah.
It goes to show the progression in the ways linear, right?
You have the ups and the downs that always comes with it.
Yeah, they have spent a long time
wiping in phase one today.
We really need to get into phase three
because we have the ads that are spawning in phase three
where you have to pick up the soul, ramping up.
You get three, then four, then five,
and there's two souls spare
that they're gonna have to try and work out.
Well, we know now that they can't do that.
So, yeah, you have three acolytes spawn
on the first round.
Three people get debuffed from those.
then you have 4 Acolytes spawned on the next round, 7 people get their debuff plus 3 that
already were, that makes 10, on the next round you have 12 debuffs to soak but only 10 people
on debuff. 2 people are going to have to pick up the Soul Wild debuff. We thought that
that was going to be an unmanageably large number like 6 or 7 million damage every second
but earlier today Robin did some science, whether it's on purpose or not depends on
your view of Robin and picked up a soul wild debuff and he only took 1.5 million
damage per second. He was also tanking the boss so a melee killed him off while he was taking it.
That seems like a manageable amount of damage that could conceivably be lived if you stacked
external spell warding and things like that. That is livable but for not very long time.
Yeah well you only need to live 15 seconds. So you pop spell warding into a time dilation.
You actually need it with spell warding. You don't need it but of course you would use it.
Yeah, makes it easier. True. Two things. Grab it. One with, you know, guardian spirit and time dilation.
The other one with time dilation after a spell warding, heal through it, and you're good to go for
another minute before you get the next, the presumable next round of six acolytes. And then it's over.
And then it's over. Then it's, then it is over. Yeah, for sure. And then you've got the issue
of the boss HP being what it is when you're in phase three, right? It is a lot of health.
I mean I can tell you this, on Heroic 30 man, the boss has what 4.6, 4.8 billion HP?
I don't know.
Something in those lands.
I have 7.5 here.
Yeah, and 7.5 or 7.8 on 20 man mythic.
Something that doesn't add up, Chief.
That's true.
Something as a foot.
Something as a foot.
Alright, so what we're gonna do now is send it over to comms, have a little
bit of listening with waves so that Grim can make his way out of the public eye
back to the shadows where he prefers to skulk after having thoroughly reamed me
for my insecure internet security make sure you guys check out NordVPN we're
gonna head over to comms and listen with wave
Ops and blades under you now
Bulls running in two one spread blades under you now not squeezing each other
there reposition
pain
ready to lag it
i'm loaded you guys
wash the blades
i'm loaded in melee
i'm dead
latest
5 stacker
and 5 stacker in 2
1, 5
good, pulling coming soon and 3, 2, 1, pull in, keep your spot with the resum, watch the vlogs,
the culling dogs, yeah resummed all of the guys and then resummed, I take it after the pull in,
I'm pulling in two, one, pulling, and so on.
I'm pulling in scales, what?
I don't want to say it, but how is this possible?
Why is this?
Why?
I'm so confused.
I don't understand why the frag is there.
I'm in for scales, but I get my rhythm with the frag confused.
Do you do what confused?
Ah, just a previous situation I think.
I like trying to make sure we're full-stim down and all.
And I use them extra stuff on the 5-stack and stuff.
Be careful.
Be careful.
Careful.
If we go blue and dirt always.
You know what's a good square?
I'll call the personless every time.
Yes, I was going to say.
Because they're right on the screen.
Really good call.
Yeah, it's fine.
Yeah.
We just put Texas Beach on the runner, I guess.
Yeah.
The weird thing is that there's persons on the first set and the second set, so I'll say them both, but obviously you need to know which person you're playing.
Yeah, some people might not be using it.
You say first person?
Yeah, I'll say first person, something like that.
But when you go to Lee...
Hello, welcome back. We sadly lost Grimm on the couch, but now you are...
You are with us, Jordan and, what was your call earlier?
Jesse.
Wow.
First excoriated by Grimm for 20 straight minutes
about my Google doc, why you forgotten my name?
No, what did somebody call you earlier?
Jenny.
Jenny, that was it.
So I was like, what was it?
Jenny.
You were trying to remember Jenny.
I was trying to remember Jenny.
I was like, I was just gonna say Jesse.
Can't believe you forgot Jenny the blog.
There you go.
How dare I actually?
That is a sin.
It is.
We have been lucky.
Jenny is good, though.
I really laughed when I was watching in the classroom.
You'll be joined by Jordan and Jenny.
It's very euphonic.
There's one together.
Yeah.
Jordan and Jenny.
But don't you think Jordan and Jesse does too?
It does.
That's why I said it.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Either way, it works.
JJ, there we go.
J and J.
Now we sound like we're selling sandwiches.
Oh, what sandwiches would we sell?
Reubens
Reuben exclusively Reubens Reubens
What?
We don't have Reubens in England. Maybe what are they Reubens are
Pastrami or corned beef on
dried bread with Swiss cheese and sourcrow
Also, it's Thousand Island dressing typically
Interesting possibly possibly the single best sandwich that exists on the planet
Apparently they do exist, but I have not had one before one of these days when we are done with a show
I will go by your ribbon. Okay. You'll tell me your opinion. It sounds
It sounds nice. No, it doesn't it sounds gross. I know it sounds gross, right? Sour Crout
Pistrami thousand Island dressing cheese. It's a strange combination, but it tastes
I can see that I can see that I would love to know I would love to know what Chad thinks I
I wonder if we can get a poll. The poll would be Ruben is Ruben the best sandwich
yes or no it's a bold assertion yeah what would I say the best sandwiches it
could also just be Ruben oh I know what the best sandwiches literally poll Ruben
question mark yes no a chip butty which is essentially two slices of bread with
what everyone else would call french fries. And that's it? Yeah. Bread around potatoes.
And butter. So you got bread wrapped around a stick of butter with potatoes. Yes. That
sounds awesome. Yeah, fish and chip shop chips in a roll, chip butty, job done. It does have an
and appealing man. Sounds wonderful. As it is. All right, if you are tuning in this evening with us,
we have not really gone into phase three too many times today. I'm in a little bit of regression in
phase one, so we have had the dinner bath hopefully. We can start seeing some phase three. We really
need the progression there. They need to start finding their feet. There is so much going on
you're going to be able to
get a lot of damage on in that
last phase with the ramping
intensity is you have ever more
ads every single round. You'll
start with three get four, then
five. You have to carry the
souls over across the portals.
You'll need to make sure that
you are dealing damage in a way
that gets to all of the ads
as well as you need to break a
shield interrupt them. There is
so much going on and they
That's true, let's hope they can. We're currently working on a phase 2 pull, click shove and
dead. No battle rose available for about a minute. As we see our team split into going
into each platform, I will take advantage of the fact that we're new on the couch today
to explain all of the mechanics to you starting from the beginning of the fight later on,
but for now we're looking at a reasonably good phase 2 attempt. And we have 10 players
on each platform. The primary mechanic occurring on Mythic is that on each platform
there is a void portal and every 10 seconds that void portal attempts to kill everybody.
You have to disrupt its cast by sending people through it which transports them to the other
platform.
Yeah, absolutely.
As you just saw there, there's almost like a little cast bar above the portal that you'll
see if that cast bar goes off.
It's almost like an interrupt in any other sense, any other mob.
You'll see it on the right side of the screen, the shadow gate, and if that reaches the
end, it's got a very spicy visual as well.
If that reaches the end, it will explode dealing massive amounts of damage to the
raid.
go through you get a gloom touch debuff which deals a large amount of damage to the player over time
and we'll also, unfortunately that portal did explode so you've got a little bit of a demonstration
of what happens if you don't go through and you don't interrupt it and as I was saying you get
the gloom touch when you go the other side it needs to be dispelled when it's dispelled it
drops a puddle on the floor this whole fight being a lot of room denial there is not much
space in these platforms? Absolutely true. The primary, the other thing going on is that every
time you go through the portal that debuff that Jordan just described to you must be dispelled
from the player it's on or it'll kill them. And when dispelled each debuff does around two and a
half million damage to everybody in the raid. That happens when it's dispelled or when it
expires. You can't get around it by simply not dispelling. So every 10 seconds you take
five million damage from people going through that portal picking up that debuff and needing
a dispel. You saw their nice meme died because he didn't get dispel quite quickly enough by
standing in some of the goop that had been left by other people traversing the portal for him.
So every 10 seconds, 5 million damage to everyone in the raid from dispelling those
debuffs for the entirety of Phase 2 adds up to a lot of damage. And then you're looking for
why is Platform 2 the point at which they wipe most often as they just did there? That's
because on Platform 2 there's another ad that puts more of the exact same debuff out,
meaning that you go from two to spells every 10 seconds with 5 million damage to the raid,
to about four to spells every 10 seconds doing 10 million damage to the raid.
Yeah, that is so much.
For a brief window there.
Yeah, because on Hurricane Above when you dispel it, it actually deals damage to the raid.
So I think on Normal you can kind of just dispel the debuff,
just deals a little bit of damage to the person.
You need to make sure you're getting rid of it as soon as possible.
But yeah, on Hurricane Above, especially on my dick,
it deals a large amount of damage to the raid as well.
You kind of have to stagger the deep dispels a little bit
Ideally, although it's difficult. It is difficult and also because it drops a puddle on the floor
You also have to be a little bit tactile when you're dropping it as well
So you can see when they come through the force all they need to drop it out of the way
But also taking an immense amount of damage as we are going into another pool
We've seen echo pulling back to back today. Usually they have a little bit of a discussion between pools
But at this point there's not much to learn. We need to get back into phase three. This is a rinse and repeat
There's not too much to work out at this point. We just need to keep going. That's absolutely true
So you see them first get a week or saying the bait that means stand near the boss because when the boss does her tank
Buster combo a liquefy into a feast it puts green puddles around players
So they try to bait those next to that corner and then they'll try to bait everything else next to that
Spot maintaining as much free space as possible
So they're gonna put these two bombs next to the already existing void puddles and then use the bomb to bump
themselves over the Nova, one second delayed in order to avoid overlapping that damage vulnerability,
making it feel lethal damage to everyone in the raid. Then Robin goes back into the puddles again
to continue trying to maximize their space as they bait another set of pools. The cycle of
the fight rotating through those fairly basic mechanics. Now if you want to cheat sheet chat
for how to tell what went wrong if someone died, here's the cheat sheet. If one group of five
to eight players dies that means that they messed up wind to bump over the
Nova and they got clipped by the Nova. If everybody dies all at the same time
that means that they popped the bombs too close together within the
vulnerability window. If one person dies it means they got hit by these web
blades or by one of the rolling balls of goo that is emitted after these
bombs go off. Yeah because on mythic you will have one second delay
between when you can pop these venom bombs on the heroic you can kind of just pop them whenever you
don't have to worry too much about it but yes on mythic you will have one second where everybody is
vulnerable and if you pop it within that everybody's going to die and the rolling poison sludge that
is crawling across the platform also gains in size as it's going across we could see earlier on in
progression it catching some players off as they kind of see hey i'm safe at this point you kind
of see the angle that it's rolling at know that it's safe kind of kind of stand still get as much
damage out on the boss as possible but because it grows in size as it comes across the platform
it can definitely then clip somebody who thought maybe they were safe and now this is the trickiest
overlap of phase one as you will have ever increasing venom bombs to place on the ground
they'll have the silken tombs making sure they're breaking everybody out of them placing the
four bombs on the floor that all need to be designated to get everybody safely over the
venom nova. There you go, you have to make sure that you're doing it without one second. All right,
jumping over, making sure you're dodging the venom pools as we go into the intermission,
where they'll need to burst through a shield to get out of it as soon as possible.
We're on a little bit of a time check. Yes, absolutely. So going into these
intermission is an extraordinarily difficult deep gas and healing check. First, you have
four stacks of poison coming out of that four stack of poison bombs which detonates for about
five million health per player at the very beginning of this intermission followed by
one of these grip pull-ins from the boss called rest which hits for another three to four million
per player that does an enormous amount of damage followed by that poison turning into a
lingering poison continuing to make it difficult to top everyone then the boss will do another
pull-in that does escalating damage around six million damage to everyone in the raid
It's before mitigation so they have to pop raid wide mitigation to make it through that if they can successfully burst through the bosses shield
They can skip the third rest as they have done here now
We're heading into a phase two pull beginning on this starter platform where we have to kill these two voice speakers
Want to decide while disrupting the void portals by going through them
You can see on the top left a week or that says on moon side many in
Zeruo are going to cross through the portals in the door to disrupt it
But when you kill the ad associated with that portal then it despawns and you no longer have to deal with that
That means Zeruo and Mini are going to do this portal in five seconds
If they take too long the portal will explode killing everyone if they do it too early
It'll increase the number of people to have to rotate through which increases the number of debuffs in your spell
You see that this spell taking everyone down to about half health
But the first round of dispells taken care of no problem
hopefully in Revis during the second round of disposal. You can see that it puts pools on the ground making it more and more difficult to deal with this platform
But we have successfully gone up to the second platform the most difficult platform of phase two
Yeah, because you will have to deal with the gloom
Dispel going out on the raid as usual and also the extra ones from the portal
As you can see it deals a huge amount of damage. We do have to do dead
We have one combat res they need to make sure that they are killing these ads as soon as possible
Large amounts of damage going out on the raid here as we do lose unfortunately a few more people
The lust goes out just to get through this phase, which is extremely
Brutal continuing to disarm the portals trying to survive getting dragged in by the boss. Oh the web bridge
Yeah, unfortunately, we had a death on the portal, which meant that everyone that tried
to disrupt it from then on was stepping through that puddle of gloom, which does around 2 million
damage per tick while standing in it, and we lost too many players to try to navigate
that.
So we are bleeding out rapidly.
We will be unable to complete this final third platform, though it is easier than
the second platform just due to having bled out.
But you can start to get a picture of the issues going on there.
They're pushing a weak aura fix.
Reload your UI, fix your records, you can see some of the complexity going on there and maybe
in a little while I'll go up on the desk and pull up some replays to help illustrate it.
On platform two in particular when you're dealing with those
dispels you need to make sure that people are dispelled in a safe spot.
If it's a little bit too late the person with the dot dies, if it's a little bit too early
it drops the puddle right under the portal and then the next person going through is in
extreme amounts of danger. They are also trying to use coordination such as bots for example
in order to make it so that someone doesn't get pulled away from the portal by the rest mechanic right when they're supposed to go through it because you do want to min-max it a little bit.
If you go in at 5 seconds every time, that's very safe. It's not going to blow up, but you're doubling the number of people that have to go through it, and you'll run out of people who are un-debuffed.
You'll run out of people who are alive because you'll be doubling the amount of debuffs.
Earlier today, Jordan drew some amazing emotes for chat that he's been putting up.
I had a lot of time where I had to.
Hold on, hold on, what are our options?
I say this was part of what we did great for.
So, you know, we're just leaving messages
between pools of the how we're feeling.
Yeah, I think maybe it's time for the spare time.
Oh, wine time.
Dispared wine time.
And I asked Chat what they wanted
and of course it was the worm with the psk.
So I think that's gonna be the message of the day.
kind of cute it's cute sorry i was just i was just gonna you know just change up the pictures for a
second maybe in another hour what is what is written listen well there's loads of the people
the people on the floor i don't know made mic and mic is obsessed with food challenges and putting
things on yeah he tries to pretend he doesn't like it but somehow every single time he's on the
couch he has some kind of food challenge whereby he puts things in his mouth um i mean it works
because any time you offers to do that,
chat starts sending in donations to our phenomenal charity,
Games for Love.
We are raising money for Games for Love,
a charity that takes care of children in hospitals
who are suffering from terrible diseases
and need distraction.
They're unable to beat kids.
So Games for Love goes to the hospital and says,
hey, what can we do to improve their lives?
We'll buy you video games, video game consoles,
we'll come repair them,
we'll teach you how to operate them.
They also go to hospitals and provide charitable care
to those who cannot afford it,
paying for operations, surgeries and procedures as needed.
And then as children start to defeat those diseases
and age out of that system,
they provide scholarships and internships
and other opportunities to help children
who may have otherwise missed a lot of school
and other opportunities.
So we are raising money for games for love
and we encourage you to lighten up all of our lives
and days as we proceed through this difficult day
of progression on Echo's part
by sending in donations with dad jokes, puns,
try to trick Jordan.
I believe a lot of things so yeah send in send in the names that make her regret
having read them without having thought about what they say oh no if we can reach
$35,000 not only will that have been an extraordinary achievement on the part of
chat who's raised a phenomenal amount of money for this amazing charity but we
will also unlock another castor gold and Nerubar which I believe involves
Mike making horrible mocktails for us to oh my goodness enjoy yeah I feel
like with Preach there was supposed to be some nice ones there may be one nice one
it's gonna be like a mocktail roulette where there are some terrible ones some
nice ones but I feel like there's gonna be a not a balance of those I think it's
gonna be a lot of mean ones. So send in new stuff also with any questions or
jokes we'll read them and show them to chat assuming they are suitable for you
know a PG-13 audience and if you can trick Jordan even if they're not. We're
going into another poll here yeah we did have a quick message for you while we're
just getting into phase one right now from dude for ten dollars saying a word
document all capitals question mark question mark excellent question mark no
no no I know that would be abhorrent and it would do that no one would do that
Google Documents.
Not Microsoft Word.
Yeah, I don't know.
You can see here.
Technically, um, actually.
Yeah, so I do want to explain a little bit more of something
that's happening under the hood here.
Every time they get these roots, it leaves webbing behind.
So they do go as deep into the puddle or close to as they can
to minimize the webbing left behind taking their room.
And then even more importantly, when they get these toxins
toxins of 2 than 3 than 4 bombs. Those bombs leave dots on the group that soaks it, depending
on the number of players soaking. The more players soaking, the fewer stacks of that
dot. So when you have 10 people in each with 2 bombs, they each get 2 stacks. When you
have 6-ish people in each with 3 bombs, you each get 3 stacks, as you can see. And
we'll see that right here in fact. You go through this time, a 3 stack right there.
three stacks of this. Now what that does in five seconds it explodes. Watch other health it's going
to tick down for three applications of that upfront damage. Boom! Taking the moment to go about to...
Oh no!
Fortunate! Oh no! Nice moves! He's going to get picked back up. After that three stack
booms and explodes for upfront damage it turns into a new dot called lingering poison that ticks
for a pretty considerable amount depending on how many stacks you have. So you have two stacks
boom then two stack dot, three stacks, boom then three stack dot and then on this final one
at about 220 in the combat timer when we do the wombo combo everyone has four stacks that four
stack boom does an enormous amount of damage and we want to walk you through that as we head
everyone's going to go raining off right when I want to pass this. Next time we get to the
wombo combo I'm going to explain it because it's actually really important to understand
why it can be difficult to get through that intermission it's extraordinarily
spiky damage for a very long time. Unfortunately for NICE means they're trying to glide
It is way to victory taking those kind of the damage off and unfortunately just crashing
and burning right at the very end.
I think that's the first time we've seen him fail that.
Yeah.
Nice memes has been using this really interesting tech.
After you pop one of the bombs, you get a big circle around you and you don't want
to clip anyone when it explodes.
Most of the players run away in order to give space to their friends and not explode
on them.
Nice memes can save up time by just going up the edge where nobody is on having
to go as far and then flying back onto the platform at the demun of that time. He just
barely missed his dashing line.
She has been playing incredibly. I actually watch Ice Memes Pov a lot and I've had people
message me who also watched Ice Memes just because his movement is so intense. I feel
like melee Pov, you can really appreciate their movement as well and yeah, Ice Memes
is always a very, very good Pov to watch and he does in fact do really well.
I haven't seen that.
Demon Hunter movement in particular can look really chaotic because movement is part of
their rotation, right?
Even Blade Dance, which doesn't actually move you, looks like your character is flying around.
You have to vengeful retreat as part of your damage rotation.
You have to fell, rush, I believe it's called as part of your damage rotation.
So Demon Hunter Melee looks like chaotic evil, just flying all over the place in
a haphazard manner, but you can control all of it and get a lot of really good
you said of it. Um, whereas, you know, Rome movement typically looks more like ordered
evil. They can be lawful evil. Exactly. They're the lawful evil. They aren't necessarily
flying around. They can, you know, move much more precisely. Sometimes you're dealing
with vanishes, maybe shadow step depending on your spec, but they're not backflipping
from one point to another, then dashing back through and fluttering around. It's
very chaotic, but it is all to a purpose. Yeah. Why don't we put bin kins? In the
Oh, well, there you go.
You set me up, I'm going to take it.
So we sat down when we were having dinner.
There's like this big screen where the broadcast is playing while everybody is, you know, eating dinner, having a chat, having a little bit of a break.
And the mechanics is song.
I think it's Get It Wide.
It's the copypasta that everybody's been posting when that song comes on.
I don't think that's actually the lyrics, but that's the lyrics now.
Oh yeah that is the lyrics and I was telling Caddx about it because it started playing and I was like Caddx it's your theme song
Especially here's a moment as well and he was so happy about it, it really made him as well. It's like oh that's nice
The Mark of the Wild being very useful of Raid buff
Yeah, it's glue the reason he's here
What is your purpose?
Mark of the Wild
wild and they're spreading versatility on the entire raid which is really good
when bosses are hitting as ridiculously hard as they are here you can see in a
little bit example we just did the two bombs everyone has two stacks a little
boom everyone down to 70% health or so that one's fairly easy to top and then
you see it turn into that second poison application that's the lingering
poison that comes after the first pop we did lose Robin there unfortunately a
little bit of tank deck we're not gonna have a battle rise now for several
minute so no one else can make an error. It's very punishing considering how fast paced this fight is
and how much any small mistake can lead to death. I feel like it's never truly appreciated just from
watching it over and over again the intensity of the gameplay. This is another fight where the
phase one is extremely challenging. I would say it's very particular, very challenging phase one.
The intermission also being challenging is to have to squeeze out as much damage as possible
right that small window and phase two as well let alone phase three so there's an immense amount
of concentration required for a fight like this as rightly so you know final boss of the raid a
very intense raid thoroughly enjoyed it so far yep i agree it's uh it is indeed challenging they're
doing a good job of dealing with it on this pull though as you can see that three stack expire
blowing up unfortunately reviz and narco going down narco has renamed his character by the way
He was real classic for the first part of this progression. He rechanged to narco wide. I wondered about that with that mean
This is this pull is very over another P1 white
Yeah, that is a go again angle go again angle now if you're looking for more of the stuff happening under the hood
You can pay attention to their week or is because they have a very specific positioning plan
You bait during the liquefy casts, which is on robin
The boss costs cast liquify and then feast much like a spider would right and liquify as it's praying and slurps it down
So liquify on then feast if they both land on the same target that target dies
Robin takes the liquify and then mirrors takes a feast when that liquify cast goes off
She also cast globules of poison all over the floor
So you'll see bait come up on that screen meaning go close to the previous poison
Then you'll see things like blades are coming so they want you to bait far away
away from the position where you want to be placing your roots, for example, so
that you don't have blades running over you while rooted. That becomes very
important toward the Wombo combo where they place the poison bombs well ahead
of where they are and then they go back for the roots and then they do the big
run where they run past the poison bombs in order to bait the blades off
of the poison bombs so they can then go back into those poison bombs
unthreatened by the blades. So a lot of intricate moving and planning
and positioning going on kind of under the hood in a way that you can pay attention to, particularly
if you watch the week or as most of which will alert you to exactly what movement they're supposed
to be doing next. Yeah and to get out of these routes you know in phase one they've opted in for
a few of them. Race changing to gnome for escape artist which is the gnome racial which allows
you to get out of a... I think that it's very particular wording in WoW sometimes it throws
me off because you have snares, roots and sometimes I think they're the same thing but they're
not so you know for example I was actually getting it wrong energy energized
barriers in the major talent tree is actually a snare which means it won't
remove the roots so it's all very particular wording however the gnome
racial removes the roots which are the what is which is what's happening with
the silken tube on phase one of Queen Ancerac so we do have a few gnomes in
the raid we have the three paladins as well I see a few people asking about
out now is Haladin offering another freedom, a lot of utility, also off
healing, spell warding for example, but very importantly it's most freedom.
Yeah it is currently mostly the freedom. There was a little bit of a
misunderstanding at one point I saw on chat about the role of the Prop Haladin.
People believing that since he's bubbling that initial liquefy from the
boss that that's somehow eliminating some of the bosses mechanics. That is
not true. He does bubble the initial liquefy but that is purely
defensively in order to live. The liquify cast goes through the bubble. He is immune to the damage,
but he still has the dot and it still ticks after the bubble expires. And since the liquify goes
through the bubble, the acid globules caused by the liquify also happen despite the fact that
he's bubbled. You can see it happen here, in fact, or you could if Rev is bothered to have
ray frames. Can you go to another POV? Alright, maybe another time. That is so funny. They are
are actually there underneath the vlogger camera.
Oh, I was going to say, this is the most TPS POV I have ever seen.
He has, and we just couldn't see him into the camera.
There are raid frames.
It would have been the funniest thing,
just to have no raid frames or whatsoever.
Listen, some players play without raid frames,
and I'm OK with it.
If a hunter doesn't have raid frames or a rogue
doesn't have raid frames, I don't care.
Because what are they going to do for the raid?
Well, that's a very important point, right?
They can see more of this green, let's say,
which is important.
And they also have no reason to look at the raid frames.
They don't offer anything.
there's no there's nothing for them to do. But a warrior with that right frames I would be happy.
Because you can have some reactive rallying cries. Ah, rallying cries. Well, Reves has been
fighting. Reves, one of the best warriors in the world, is a fantastic player but it has been
wonderful watching his POV. I think on one of their best pools of today where they got into
phase three he had a real Monkastere moment where there were so many webs and he was just
gaming out of his mind. It's very fun to watch. Yeah, Reves is a very good player. I've been
playing for Echo and his team for an extraordinarily long time. Always most comfortable playing
from home, but he does turn his stream on for the race world first, which all other warriors
in the world appreciate, as he teaches them how to warrior in this upcoming tier. Famously in
the Sylvanas tier, warrior was rated something like D tier or something, and then he ended
up topping damage on most bosses showing everyone what was up. It's almost like
those tailists don't mean much. I think it's mostly about saying thank you to Revis.
That is very true. So Jesse. Yes as an x-ray sword first player yourself
How do you look at this boss and I like well, what do you think of this boss?
I look at the boss by aiming my eyeballs at the TV. Okay. There you go. Write that down. You got some hot tips
From wow pros here. Do you have to look at your screen? Yeah?
Look at the boss. Okay, so I'm usually not looking at the boss because I'm looking at my abilities
And you're looking at the DPS meter. Yeah, and I'm looking at the DPS meter. So I don't think I'm doing step one
Okay, so here we are in the wombo come up first
We place the bombs ahead then we back up for the roots everyone gets themselves out of the room
We don't kill the roots at all
Then we run ahead to bait the blades off of the bombs
Then we go into the bombs and pop them once I can the park you get a week or saying don't pop
Don't pop don't pop and then you pop now you can see they'll have four stacks of this poison
It's going to explode in four seconds dealing 80% plus of their health
You see personals going up on mini banner other people as well
They only go to half health now in a couple of seconds while you have the lingering four stacks still ticking on you
You have this incoming yank which hits again, and then they rewind that so you change so many personals
You have a rallying cry
Personals and a him after that first poison tick into a rewind on the yank in order to get everyone healthy
This has been a sticking point for much of their progression today or regression today
But successfully done here penguin popping his personal for the second yank robin going down
We do have a battle res which is good because he's a tank and is necessary the shield is at 13 percent
Which is good the rest isn't coming out for a little while yet
There's the cast bar five second cast they get through the shield. We're going into a phase two
Yeah, they take much better with the intermission actually getting through that as they need to see a lot more phase three to get into phase
three obviously they need to conquer phase two which is providing a little bit challenging for them
today so more practice the better as they will now need to deal with the extra mythic mechanic in
this phase which are the portals that they will need to disarm by running through them as they get
knocked yep to the various platforms yep we're getting knocked up to the very first
platform one of three you see zero and many will be traversing these portals in the back
Ideally the spells don't happen until they are off the portals, so it's safe
And you can see that there's a timing issue there where the yank is happening at the same time
They're supposed to get through the portal and we've had wipes because someone gets yanked away from the portal
So you try to assign people who can either get rid of the yank for example mini with the Dutch advance
Or you put a bop on them that dispel unfortunately a lot of webs right next to it
But we're done with platform one. We don't care that it's scuffed up
We're heading up to platform two now
Now they've been trying to hold Bloodlust here in order to use it in the last phase,
but they will commit it if things go wrong.
You see the Bopko in Canik, so he amunes this Yank, so he can go through the portal at the
right time.
Heads to the side, gets dispelled, that's relatively clean.
The Shield adds are almost done, 12% remaining.
The Shield add must die before the timer or it explodes your entire raid, but they
got through that successfully.
Nice means very low, but looking for a dispell, a little bit away from the portal.
Fanner going down.
We do have a battle res available, we need to use it, but we might wait until
get up to the platform because otherwise his corpse won't be available to have repositioning.
There it is up on the platform as we go into the third platform in relatively good shape.
Yeah, it's very nice actually how they move the corpse of fallen raid members. Previously,
you know, if somebody died, they'd be left behind. It can be very difficult to battle
them as we do unfortunately lose Jinji here. We don't have another combat res for quite a
long time actually. We lost Robin as well on the same point. Apparently it looked like a
Dispel occurred right at the same time perhaps two off off at the same time filled five million damage and a couple of people went down
Including I think but we're gonna take a look at this phase again
We're in phase three here for a while might as well look at it
We're not gonna get super far with 3d ps and a tank down
In fact, it's gonna be difficult to get very far at all
But it might be worth seeing if we can get the cc chain up on that first set of spiders for example
The phase starts with 20 seconds of the boss casting a photic
communion and you can do some damage to her while she does that. It doesn't
actually hit that hard, but she landed on Ryzen killing him.
The way it goes up on now. Okay, they may get some significant progression here in Phase 3.
Sorry, Jesse. It's very exciting because we couldn't see the combat res, but there was one.
Yep, one res on Robin, but we did lose Ryzen in exchange. Now, the spiders go down and they
get cc'd as far away from the boss as possible while trying to maintain some
ability to cleave on the boss. Rez spinning to win. The hatchling's still awake.
If any of those live, which they did, hatchlings not dying because we're missing too much damage means that they hit the boss and every time a hatchling gets eaten by the boss, it does a very large AoE hit and the boss gets buffed doing 50% more damage.
We do get to see a little bit here, right? It was a very scuffed pull. We went in to phase three with the main tank and 3 DPS down, but we did get to see the adds. We did get to see the acolytes come down. We're not going to be able to deal with them, but still better and hopefully livening up their spirits a little bit.
We do have a little bit of a replay though of Jinji's death just to see what happened there. Let's have a little bit of a look
Watch Robin at the same time. I think they died to the exact same set of dispels
Have a little watch here
Yep
So you can see that two people go through the portal they come out with the debuff one dispel boom Robin South goes down to 20%
Another dispel boom it goes all the way depleted
Perhaps a little bit too close together or insufficient healing output
You see Genji has a little bit of face palm because he ate an orb that he could have avoided.
Yeah, that's what I was about to say as well.
There are so many small overlaps like that that really again tests so much from the players.
As soon as he comes out, he's looking for the disbell, he's losing a lot of health
rapidly, he needs to make sure he's dropping it in the right spot.
But if an orb goes out at the wrong angle, it can interfere where you're supposed
to drop the portal, sorry, where you're supposed to drop the puddle on the floor
from the gloom debuff, and it can very, very much snowball and escalate out of
control. Another thing that we haven't been talking about as much
happened kind of underneath the hood. Hard to see if you're not
looking at the logs is that one of the ads on these platforms
does a really vicious tank hit called oust. Oust a word meaning
you know out with you. I think there's a bug spray called
oust right? Get out. We thought about using that. Why are
we not using that? They're using it and they're using it
on the tanks and what oust does is it hits for like
13 million damage really really hard and
Boots you off the platform. So for the most part mirrors has been taking those outs because he can you know transcend back and other things like that
And we try to position in such a way that you don't get booted up the platform
But Robin takes them as well
Outs overlapping with gloom burst dispels are often lethal if you've been wondering occasionally if you've been paying a lot of attention
In the past two days, why do the tanks sometimes on the platform? It's almost always that ous plus a dispel
really depleting their health ridiculously quickly.
Got a song in my head.
Which one?
To just...
Look at that house.
Sing it.
That is...
I'm just being stupid, honestly.
I love how you're giving a very intelligent, coherent, eloquent, beautiful description
for our viewers and all that's going on in my head is,
House every weekend, which isn't even the lyrics.
It's just some stupid house song from ages ago that no one's gonna know either.
people in chat are with you maybe they're doing the same thing. I think it's this house
every weekend but I just remember seeing them at the time of our house every weekend just
being really stupid. Anyway, back to the intelligent discussion. Well to the extent we can, you
know, I mean Chad's been here watching all day as well. You and I were actually napping
for some of the polls. We was. It was very cozy in the classroom. We were watching alongside
all of you. Yeah, and kind of you you had a nap. I had like a nap but with my eyes open,
which doesn't really make sense. It's like a half nap. I believe you. My eyes are closed.
Yeah. In fact, I drooled on myself, I think. But I think many people may have been finding
it worthwhile to nap a little bit as they have certainly been struggling today to match much
less surpass yesterday's progress. When you see Scribe in this position staring up into the
the heavens with a look of intense concentration in space, I want to assure you that despite
appearances he is not in fact regretting his life decisions and wondering why he's here
and wondering what could possibly help. He's looking at his third monitor. He's planning.
Yeah, you can see the whole way up there. This is not what it looks like. It looks
like, oh, why am I here? What do we do? This is never going to. He's working. He's
analyzing replay. He's analyzing data. That's where he has his echo replay tool
working, which we've had a couple of glimpses of here as well, some Maxwell analysis. Yeah, we have
resting concentration face as well, like you know, neutral just studying. Yeah, they had a good shot
of me when I was resting concentration face looking at the monitor up there while someone had placed
the pacer in front of me and it looks like I'm... I saw that pacer. Yeah, it does actually look
like that. I was laughing. I didn't know you're looking at the monitor. I didn't know that
It looks like you're staring directly at the pastries lovingly or angrily.
They were very nice.
I have a resting, angie chatting face when I read a message, it uses all of my brain cells
so I frown and concentrate.
It just looks like I'm angry so everyone always thinks I'm like rage texting someone,
I'm not.
I'm actually saying, oh I'm pretty glad I know you, lots of love but I look angry.
where your brain is focused on message
so you don't have any to animate your feature.
Exactly, just resting, chatting, angie face.
I see every single POV currently reloading,
so some kind of UI just got tweaked
and sent to all of the Raiders,
potentially addressing some of the problems they've had.
It's very, very easy to look at deaths
and say stop doing that, stop getting hit by that,
stop doing that, stop dispelling that,
whatever it may be.
But if it's happening consistently,
if it's causing a hindrance to your progression,
and what good raid leaders are going to do,
what good strategists are gonna do like Roger,
is say, okay, obviously this isn't just a
get better issue, sure it'd be better if everyone got better,
but we can't just make everyone magically better.
What can we do to our strategy
in order to make it more likely that we succeed
and less likely we fail?
Can we devise, for example, a weak aura
that assigns when to dispel
a certain number of seconds after coming out of the portal?
Everything is on a timer, essentially,
once you go into P2.
You have a set number of seconds
make it to the second platform and kill the shielded ad before his cast goes off, you can
already see that at the moment P2 starts.
He's already casting and they've got a weak core showing his health on his cast bar.
So you can set a timer and say, okay, when do we want the dispels to occur relative to
the oust casts or maybe we want a weak core that flashes on the healer screen saying
not right now because the tank's health is too low or something like that to try
to minimize the error rate when you're having mistakes.
So when you see those reloads go out and you see every single raider reload,
That's going to be some kind of weak aura fix that they're hoping will address some of
the problems that they've been having as they iron out their phase one and phase two.
Come on, we need to get back into phase three.
We need to see that significant progression very much later on in the fight.
And there's the poison pools.
Right.
So for those who are saying, oh, Robin's bubbling the liquefy in order to prevent poison
pools from going out, that doesn't work.
He puts a bubble up to live through the initial tank buster, the pools go out
anyway.
is not any kind of like illuminating mechanic type thing. The Paladin is there for the freedom
more than almost anything else. Yeah, there was a time I think it was when
now first came in on his Paladin where it was kind of not questioning the change, just
wondering, oh God, Injured's out, Paladin's in, talking about it. I think it was me
and Alex on the couch at the time. And it looked like Liklify went out and then
it looked like none of the puddles appeared. So I remember that discussion where we were saying,
oh, I wonder if the immunity nullifies, you know, putting puddles on the floor. So I remember that
being a thought at the time, which was very, you know, rapidly cleared up, right? You spoke about
it as well. That definitely wasn't happening. So yeah, I think that's where that came from. But
as you can, as you can see, it definitely doesn't nullify the mechanic. It wouldn't be
It wouldn't be the first time something like that had happened.
There have been instances in the past where immuting a tank mechanic would prevent the
follow-up of that tank mechanic.
In fact, that happened fairly notoriously many times in the past, resulting in anywhere
from cheesy kind of kills to full-on exploits that got people banned.
But Blizzard has done significantly better over the past couple of years, particularly
in the most recent couple of expansions, for seeing the ways in which things can
be cheesed and preventing it.
And the most common way, of course, is to make things just go through immunocons.
and you still give the bubble value by making you immune to the damage that occurs while it's up,
but the debuff goes up through the immunity, which means the puddles go out through the immunity,
and then after your bubble's over, you're still taking the damage from the dodge anyway. So
they've done a good job of eliminating the overwhelming cheesy value of immunity that has
been exhibited in the past, for example, in Antorus, while still retaining their upfront value
of making you not take damage for the duration. For some reason when you said Antorus,
I thought you meant but what not I heard hell fire citadel. No, why summon Alex don't mention how fires it
Oh, I didn't you just did
Yeah, but my brain had to help I did
Oh
I was gonna come running out the cast room like did I tell you about that time and hell fire shit?
go on there were bosses Jesse there were indeed and we have a boss here as
we're going into the intermission we've used one combat res our lingering
poison is expiring as we deal with the first rest everyone looking relatively
healthy now the lingering poison is gone we instead have to deal with these waves
of globules if anyone gets clipped by one of those they are going to die
other than that they should be relatively safe because the second rest
While it does hit harder than the first no one is ticking down from the lingering poison
They have a couple people get low, but everyone is all right now
We have to deal with a couple more waves of globules
You can see in the top middle of your screen the shield is at 17%
They want the shield to go down right before the third pull-in which is coming at the cast bar right now
But they're going to beat that you get a small window here where her shield goes down before she becomes immune
Where you can do three seconds of dps to her which will be very important
It becomes a very tight DPS check later.
So they're practicing that as we head into yet another P2 pull.
This is extremely good.
This is what we want to see.
We want to see more regular phase two pulls as everyone's dropping a little bit
low, trying to finish off this first add as they get knocked onto the first
platform here.
Yep.
This first platform, Minion Zero doing the first disruption of this portal.
Zero was able to teleport back right up to the rest and many can simply
that's advanced through it, completely ignoring the rest.
Heading through the portal, heading to the side, getting spelled a little bit away,
making it safe for the next people going through that. It's hopeful and
revives. This one comes after the rest, so hopeful blinks into it, runs out, gets
the spell to the side, and that's typically the last one on this platform.
They've been able to kill all the adds after just two
portal disruptions as we head into the most difficult part of the fight.
This is where for progress they were popping bloodlust, but now they're
trying to hold it for phase three. This add on this phase
has been casting for almost 90 seconds, 14 seconds remaining on his cast bar. You have to disrupt that
shield and kill him with his 1 health before the cast bar goes off. You see 8 seconds left
on the top right that they need to get through. Meanwhile, while doing that damage, must still
continue going through the portals every 10 seconds and dispelling the debuffs. Everyone
at half health from that last round of debuffs, unfortunately, Mae Voker goes down. We do have
a combat res. Zero also goes down, so you're gonna have to pick one as they head up to...
we missed the portal unfortunately that was the other team's portal dealing damage lethal damage to
that side um but that was looking much cleaner in comparison to most of their pulls today so it is
good even though it's a little bit of a regression just falling with style yeah yeah we've had a
little bit of regression today you know a lot of the phase one wipes a lot of uh
It's better to be getting into phase two at least, getting an ever-ever closer to phase
three.
They do need to pick up the pace.
I think Liquid by the end of their day were getting into phase three consistently, popping
the bloodlust there.
So even if Echo gets that point today, they can't match pace with Liquid.
They need to pull ahead.
They need to be extra quick.
Yeah.
They won't win unless they get in the lead, right?
There was a brief moment yesterday after Ekko's most of its day of progress, Ekko got into
phase 3, had a really clean pull, dealt with the first round of 3 Acolytes, got to the second
round of 4th Acolytes and wiped there.
And for that little while they had set a new mark to beat and were in the lead, but
then Liquid got up and reached the exact same point.
For a while they were exactly tied, then Ekko went to bed, Liquid had some extremely
good consistency getting into phase 3 and reached 35%.
mechanically, which is more important than the health thresholds, reaching that
what we presume to be final set of five acolytes. Echo has had a day today in
which they haven't returned over the course of the entire day back to
yesterday's progress point. Now that doesn't always mean that it's wasted,
you're ironing things out trying to improve consistency, trying to fix
problems that are holding back, but it has been a little bit of a demoralizing
day for them and I hope that they are able to find that groove and get
more consistently in phase three learn some new things see something that you
know worth the day of effort that they have put forth here yeah absolutely I
mean this race has gone on quite well I think we're reaching Sepulchre level of
time I think it feels like that to you no no no I think somebody said that but
we had heroic week in Sepulchre as well you weren't casting it that's true
well it's quite a long time nonetheless you know they've been here
even playing since heroic so I feel like before they weren't here for heroic
week so I guess in time of being at the event and playing at the event and it's
a similar time I think for the casters it's similar to jailer tier for the
players not yet for the jailer tier the players traveled out for heroic week
and they were there for a month we're not quite to that point yet but if we
go into lockout three we will be and if there's nothing going on with the
boss and it's merely get her health to zero strap in everybody we're gonna be
here next week and it will be approaching jailer tier I mean with the boss
house I don't know I keep looking at the boss how thinking is there a mythic
phase is the boss gonna transition at 20% 10% HP is the judge that just a whole
lot of copium who knows 0% HP but we need more gear oh you know I know okay
You reach 20% health on the boss.
She empowers herself.
She crawls up her web a little ways and fully ascends, fully empowers, pulls everyone toward
her and with her you fall through the hole in the middle, down to the spiderwebs.
We've seen underneath that platform where she in her ascended form deals and takes
increased damage for a final burn in the midst of her spiderweb layer.
would be so epic. I totally agree. There is Susie Shenanigans
effort. That boss HP is way too high. I think that that makes a lot of sense. I
think it was Nobble as well, who has said this a few times, but it was
no one who was saying that the cutscene also that you get after you defeat Queen
Ancerac doesn't quite make sense because she's ascended in the cutscene,
but in the previous difficulty she's not ascended. So it could be that
that there is a mythic phase, secret mythic phase,
where she does ascend and is part of the fight.
Who knows?
But what we do know is that we need to get there
in order to reach that potential health threshold
to push it into a mythic phase if there is one.
I mean, there's no guarantee.
I feel like it's very hit and miss.
I agree with you.
I think that there is probably something
just based on nothing.
Based on numbers and the fact that Blizzard
has been paying a lot of attention to this race
tweaking numbers will need to have as the health went up and then went down
Silk and Court got adjusted. They've been tweaking things no tweaks to this fight. They're watching and saying yeah
Yeah, you can do it which means something happens because at these at this point
They can't do it if it's get the health to zero. They just can't it's not yeah
That's the time that the damages in there right even if you can successfully deal with the third round of backlights with five backlights
Which you can if two players can successfully tank one million damage per second for 15 second
Which the tanks probably can with externals you can't deal with round four
And that only buys you an additional minute, which isn't enough time to get through another 30% of the boss itself
It's just not doable and every round of acolytes adds per acolyte
91 million health that has to be dealt with because you can't ignore them
You have to kill them because if they're struck by the feast the the frothing wave coming in from the edges
That's why it's the rate. So you have to kill them and they have escalating numbers
So the amount of health required to get through just doesn't seem plausible
There is some mark removal occurring here. Yeah, there is a lot going on in that in phase three
I think a lot of people have questions about boss percentage going through this boss and the best way to tell
Progress through this boss isn't necessarily based on the boss health
It's more about how far they've seen into the fights until you see you know liquid necker
a method there have been I mean there's a lot of a lot of the teams are battling out on clean answer
which is great to see but not going to be worrying about boss health until quite
Bar into face three I would say I know that was a question a lot of people had had
Throughout true. It's largely been clear early on it was difficult to tell what's going on because you start progress on the
boss you pop bloodlust you get the boss to a low health percentage and then you
wipe them in a mission and then some other team stops doing that they start
popping bloodlust in the intermission which means that before the shield goes
up in the intermission they've done less health to the boss so the boss gets a
shield at a higher health threshold they get through the intermission because
they pop bloodlust and now it looks like they're ahead on the leaderboard
because they are they've gotten further into the actual fight but the
boss health is higher so fans look at the leaderboard and they say wait
This doesn't make sense. Why is the guild with a lower health percentage not higher on the board?
The answer is because health percentage is very deceptive on this boss.
For several minutes in a row, you can't do anything to a health percentage.
What matters is mechanical progression through the boss.
Now, luckily for now, that's settled down because we have mechanical progression reflecting boss health on the board.
You're looking to get into P3 and at that point boss health starts being much more reflective of progression through the fight.
the fight, the longer you last in P3, the lower her health will go, and the more you
are encountering those mechanical progression points.
Yeah, and then when they get into phase three, it's kind of a step-by-step process of trying
to get through the waves of the acolytes that are spawning and carrying the souls,
because if the wave, the shadowy wave that goes across the platform, if that hits
any ad or a soul left behind from killing an ad, it is a wipe, so they need to make
sure that they are ferrying those souls across the portals. Once the player has taken a soul,
they can't take another one. They take a significant amount more damage from holding
the soul, so they do need to make sure that they are juggling that and with ever increasing adds
through that phase, you get three, then four, then five, with more and more increasing adds,
it's going to get very, very tricky. So that's going to be the huge progress point
that we're going to see in phase 3. Absolutely true. We did get through the most painful points of
this intermission successfully living through the frothy poison and lingering toxin and the two
rests now. They're going to take this shield from 20% all the way down to its depletion point
before the third rest. So as long as they dodge the green globules, no one will die here. I
say that knowing full well that it is difficult to dodge those globules and the floor is
very covered and I've sold going very low but they managed to break the shield
which cleans up your floor and you can head to each side to deal with our entry
into phase two. So what we're watching for here is Maevoker and clicks heading
through each of those portals and then getting the spelled which will take
everyone down very very low each of those dispels doing two and a half
million damage to everyone in the raid and then we need topped.
We've been killing these void speakers before the second portal traversal
is necessary so we want to get topped as we head up onto platform one.
Yes, so getting through the platforms as quickly as possible is beneficial in several ways.
In the second platform, you're going to have so many disavowable debuffs to deal with,
so you want to get out of it as soon as possible.
But even on these platforms as well, as you were saying, in the very first ad, for example,
the quicker that you kill the ad and move on, the less portals you have to go through,
the less gloom debuffs you have on the players, and also the less you have to dispel,
which is a damage out onto the raid. So speed being very important going through phase two
they make their way up to the second platform now. This is a very dangerous platform.
It is. They have a difficult time ahead of them because this is the timer that's been running the
entire time they're in the air mission. These devoted worshipers have already been casting for
the entire time they've been down here. Revis going down. You have nine seconds left to destroy
that shield and kill that ad. If you fail to do so, it will be wiped. They do manage to get
both of them down. Revis can be combat res. There is the res. If it's safe to take,
He will because they do still have a little bit of time before they kill the last add
Unfortunately, he did take it and instantly die against with again to send the second res on him
It's a very dangerous moment in order to traverse this bridge
He may decline that and get res on the upper platform looks like that's what they're gonna do
We are on the top platform
We lose one entire side to the shield not having been I'm sorry the portal not having been disrupted by some going through it
Probably due to trying to get rivers up
It's dangerous, and you can see what they were thinking about, right? Should you take
the resnaut or wait until it's there, he took it and got clipped by a beam instantly?
Yeah, this is the problem. This is how it's very much an escalation throughout the entire
phase. It's almost like Kaibessa in the intermission, where you have the blazes in the intermission
going out, and if one person steps slightly to avoid the shadowy slice going across
the room, that offsets somebody else because then somebody else has to sidestep
for your beam, which can sidestep that person's beam and it can rapidly put other people out
of position.
Yep, so we're seeing here the deaths on Revis, didn't you take a look?
He picked up aggro on the spiders and went down.
Those spiders are actually extremely dangerous because not only are there a lot of them
doing some melee, they also put a debuff up on you that makes you take more damage.
And then his second one, the instant he got res, the spell went out, executing
him at the exact same time.
Obviously a communication issue there either should have waited till they are
up at the next platform or someone should have called you know wait until after
the spell or something like that but it's a timing problem. If you take the
res while you're down there but right before arrest you can't get positioned
for the rest. If you take it when they're already heading up you may not
make it onto the bridge in time to get to the platform without falling to
your death which we've seen someone do right after a res. If you wait then
you're waiting until all of the ads have already spawned and been dealt
with and the warriors the most important player for dealing with those
So it's a difficult timing situation, unfortunately, and it led to a cascade of everything else failing as well
likely because everyone was talking about that the next pair which may have included a substitute for him
failed to go through those portals and we did have a wipe, but
Okay
Okay, I'm told by Mitch we have an interesting replay wants me to take a look at sure. Let's take a look
Okay, so this is hopeful
Alright, so Rev is...
Yeah, that was, uh, why is it only Jinji?
Yeah, they had a Uikura mistake.
Yeah, we have a Uikura error there, it looks like.
And I think it was caused by Rev is dying.
Okay.
Because I think Rev is supposed to go through with Jinji and he died in the Uikura.
What did you notice that was wrong there?
Oh, okay, so when we're in the intermission, I'm sorry, phase two, in the top left,
have a weak aura that identifies the two people who are supposed to disrupt the next portal and
those timers should be identical. Both portals are on the exact same timer. And it also shows you
how long you have to get into the portal before it'll explode. In that case, in that weak aura,
in that screenshot we just had, Hopeful's weak aura showed only one portal taking down,
no one assigned it the second one at all. When it did assign someone to the second one,
it was on a desynced timer, which is impossible. So there is an error on the weak aura
likely caused by rebels having died and needing to be replaced in the rotation,
resulting in it no longer accurately tracking exactly who was supposed to go through when,
and that is why it exploded because no one was assigned to go through it.
Yeah, and this fight requires so much coordination with everything that is going on,
and but everything's going on every step of the way, right? You've got to place the Venom
Nova bombs in the correct position, you've got to have these groups assigned, you've got to
have the poppers assigned as you can't have the same person, exploding it every single time,
There is so much to coordinate and these week horrors being very very helpful in with the, you know, organizing them let's say.
Yeah, it's interesting because kind of a theme of this fight is making sure everyone deals with mechanics.
In phase one you go through three, I'm sorry, two then three then four bombs, each of which must be popped by a separate person.
You get a diva preventing you from doing it again.
During the intermission you have to disrupt the portal two at a time
and again you get a debuff saying you can't do it again so everyone has to rotate through there as well.
In the final phase you have to pick up the souls of the acolytes and again everyone has to rotate
through because once again you get a debuff saying you can't do it twice so Blizzard making use of
that mechanic as kind of a theme of this fight saying everyone's going to be rotating through
each of these mechanics in phase one in phase two in phase three in order to say you're not
just going to have two doers do all the jobs while everyone else pushes their buttons and
does damage everyone's going to have to deal with this together zero going down there with
a battle res available as we are currently in the wombo combo of the fight because zero is dead
we're going to five stacks of the frothy poison instead of four which means its upcoming raid hit
will be extraordinarily difficult to deal with it it's very hard taking everyone to about 10% health
now we have a five stack of the lingering poison taking for over a million damage every tick
right before the rest hitting them all for another four million phenomenal work through
the healer is keeping everyone alive through that, that him coming out into the rewind is doing some
serious work, right, some playing the Archon hero talent build that pulses those healers out back
and forth and back and forth doing an amazing amount of HPS. Somehow successfully making it
through as we go to the last rest, people popping their personals to deal with this,
we do get through with everyone alive, well done to the raid. 14% left on the shield,
we're going to make that DPS check in time so long as no one gets run over by one of these
globules. Yeah absolutely. That was scary. Moving on to phase 2, yeah very scary.
They did it. That's good. They played well for that. With someone dead in an
extra stack of poison that was hard and they played well to get through that so
that's a that's a good sign in my book. Yeah they managed to recover it. There
are a few mistakes. Well no mistakes. There are a few things that can go wrong.
A couple things I want to point out. I apologize for interrupting. You can
already see on the right hand side on Minnie's boss screen that there is a
devoted worshipper with one health casting cosmic apocalypse so that timer
begins the moment phase two starts ticking down they have 50 seconds to
get to him that means if you're too slow down there or too slow here you don't
get there in time you don't kill him which also means the damage in these
first two platforms is relevant for beating that damage check the faster you
kill this platform the faster you get there to deal with those the other
thing is the week or on the top left underneath the moon on hopefuls UI
right here saying skull side canyx is going to go through the moon portal
and Narco will go through the Skull Portal. Now that's going to reset here because they spawned
the bridge which resets the portal. You're going to go up here and it's going to start back over.
There it rolls over. That's how the weaker is supposed to look lined up with both portals going
through at roughly the same time. Now if someone goes through one second early, one person goes
half a second early that's going to desync them a little bit. We're going to see the weaker
pop up here. There it is. Cush assigned to go through in seven seconds. Nice memes in seven.
So you keep an eye on that in order to know what's going on with portals. So long as
as long as no one dies, it works.
We've had issues where people dies.
Their backups aren't working well.
But the good news is that while I've been explaining that to you,
we have successfully dealt with
the second platforms.
Unfortunately, Narko and Thaner and Revis all dying.
Thaner gets the quick pickup.
Revis and Narko are going to be floor POV for quite a while.
Yeah, not getting a res for a little while.
So we're going to have to get,
I mean, getting back into phase three,
no matter how, I mean ideally
whether everybody alive.
whether everybody alive. But even if we do lose a few people, getting into phase three is still
very, very important. They need to be consistently getting back there. We need to get to that progress
point and make it through as they are battling their way on this third and final platform.
Yeah, four dead. This isn't going to go amazingly. But again, we're in phase three. That is very
good. Consistency getting to phase three is consistent getting phase three easier cleaner.
It'd be better. But this is still amazing. We see the symbol of hope going out during the
to say fought at communion cast you have downtime here to top everyone and get
everything reset. The simple hope is going to give everyone their personal's back
which is really really important. Now the first failure point you could have in
this phase is the tank debuff that will go out on one of the tanks will spawn a
lot of spiders and those spiders must be kept away from the boss or it will
be a wipe. Yeah if the boss eats any of the spiders okay the spiders kind of
going into the boss. She will consume them and gain extra damage.
That was about as badly as the spider's could go.
Yeah, it's also a raid-wide damage, right?
So every spider that gets eaten does a pulse of several million damage to the raid.
You can live through one or two of those, but you can't live through all 10.
Absolutely not. And it is very good that they are getting back into phase three.
Yes, it's still messy, but at least we are getting there for the most of today.
We have had very messy phase 1s, quite messy insubmissions, we haven't really gotten to phase 2
too many times, only two pulls today getting back into phase 3. So the fact that we have had two,
where they are reaching it is a very, very good sign. Don't want to keep wiping in phase 1,
we need some progression in phase 3. Yep, absolutely. Lots going on in phase 3.
The boss has a similar mechanic in phase 3 as she does in phase 1, where in phase 1
she hits a tank buster with liquefy into feast, the liquefy putting up a dot
that spawns the poison, and the feast putting up a giant healing absorb. It
hits mirrors for around 17 million unmitigated and puts a 17 million
healing absorb. So lots of fairly intricate taunt swapping going on there.
In phase 3 she does a similar thing except that instead of poison it's void.
So just like in phase 1 after she does her tank hit you'll see void puddles
hitting around the groom and again, area denial from that floor is going to be a big deal.
Exacerbated and made significantly more difficult by the fact that you're going to need to pick up
the souls of those acolytes, drop them off when they time out after 15 seconds in a place that
isn't going to be covered with the void zones when you need to pick them back up again
to traverse them through the portal because if you have any acolyte or acolyte soul
on the ground when the boss pulls in that ring of froth you wipe every single
act like it must be dead or you wipe and every single soul must be picked up by a
raider ticking on them for for a significant dot damage traversed through
the portal and then dropped or you wipe so if you drop that in a bad place that
got covered by gloom puddles good luck gaming so lots going on good to see
them getting back in that phase 3 will continue to introduce you to what's
going on under the hood there as we see it. We are going back into another pool
which again there's not too much to discuss at this point unless there is
let's say a week or error and they need to do a little bit of a reload but the
progression point being phase three that's kind of when they've been cooking
all night. Roger's been you know working out phase three and it'd be really
nice to get there and implement what they have decided to do how they've
decided to traverse it and really shine because they had a very excellent day
yesterday and while progress isn't linear, let's have a much
better evening. Yeah, they've also started using some of the tech that they
developed back in the Jailer tier. Prior to the Jailer tier it was fairly
regular for Skrack to kind of be the raid leader for the entire encounter,
right? He'd raid lead you from start to finish. On Jailer, the secret phase,
phase that last final phase was so new to everyone and was reached so rarely after such
a long time in the first couple phases that he delegated the raid leading of phase one
to phase two to Miris who would calm me and ASMR guide everyone through the phase.
It's a very serious raid leading stuff.
He does, he does.
So just like on farm he would guide them through that very, very standard nature to them.
And then meanwhile, Skype would be looking at the last phase, practicing his raid
leading of that phase, fully absorbing everything that was possibly happening, fully absorbing,
you know, and understanding exactly how it worked, so that when the Raiders got there,
fairly infrequently, and rarely he could say, okay, I know you don't know what's going to
happen, just listen to me and do what I say, and explaining in the clearest possible way
exactly what movements needed to occur when. By doing so, he rapidly accelerated progress
through that phase, right? The Raiders ended, I was talking with this, with perfect
about this yesterday, we didn't even know what was happening in that phase, we didn't
realize the boss was going to die, we were just listening to the script, tell us
what to do next. They've introduced that tech here again. Mears Raid leads them
through phase one while Scribe is looking deeper into the fight, figuring out
their strategy and how he wants to guide them through phase two and phase three,
and then he takes over in phase two. So a good bit of multitasking being done
there. If you want to know when to start worrying, it's right around now.
Combat timer at 2.20 is when you'll see them do the complex maneuver
where first they have to bait these puddles ahead of where they're going to be moving,
then they bait the roots back where they were next to the void zones, then you see this big
movement. They want to run all the way through, get the puddles behind them to bait these blades
in advance so that it is safe to get into the puddles to get knocked over this nova. We do lose
Penguin Disco, that's Wolf Disco, one of our warlocks. He gets a battle rest. His death did not
causes to pick up five stacks which is good. We're only at four stacks of the
frothy poison that's gonna hit everyone here in a moment. There it goes. We're
down to half health. He's waiting until it's safe before he takes that res. Yeah
he's just watching. I see his body got pulled in like almost to the devour
but he is safe now. Yeah because the buff will pull in any dead raiders which
I thought was quite an interesting cool little thing. I mean spiders aren't
particular, they'll eat something instead I think. Once they've liquified your innards,
there is the second rest, ticking for about half of everyone's health. Now they should
be relatively safe from everything except user error. No more significant raid damage
coming in. So long as they beat the third yank, this third yank coming in four seconds
with the five second cast timer, they got plenty of time to continue DPS and getting
through the shield. We have no battle resins for about one minute, going into another
phase to attempt. So a significant improvement in our consistency getting into phase two and
potentially phase three tonight.
Yeah, it's very impressive that they could get through the intermission in the correct
time while still losing a DPS and not having to, you know, commit the lust or anything
like that. Because we have seen even though they ideally want to be popping the blood
lust in the final phase, sometimes they have to commit to using it a little bit
earlier depending on how messy it was if they've lost too many people because you know they still
have to break that shield in the intermission otherwise it's a wipe so if they don't necessarily
have enough people alive they will then have to commit that bloodlust and even in phase two where
you have the ads on the platform there are so many dps checks even throughout this phase as well
canik dropping really low but getting that huge heal out as they move on to the second
platform having to deal with extra dispels on this platform which puts a lot of pressure on the healers
not only to make sure that they are dispelling but also watching everybody's health as it will deal
raid-wide damage every time it is dispelled and they also need to make sure that they are disarming
these portals the mythic mechanic dodging the beams making sure that they are not getting
dragged off of the edge by the spider web as well they killed that cosmic ad with one
second remaining on its cast bar that was as close as it gets or at least as close as i'm
I'm comfortable with it now when they activate the bridge the rest gets disabled
They don't get pulled off the bridge as long as they've activated the bridge
So everyone alive heading on to platform number three you have another DPS check on this platform
You have to kill the ad before it blows up and kills everyone you see that cast white 24 seconds remaining
They've made made fairly good time thus far need to continue rotating through the portal
So you see Jinji and Wolf disc go heading through heading the side getting dispelled each dispelled doing two and a half million
pop. Oh he got a lust proc. I almost got tricked by that. Oh my goodness. Everyone alive. Did
that trick you too? No, no, no. It was the dispel that kind of just went off or it timed
out just as they all gathered up to get knocked onto the third platform. But we are in phase
three. This is a very important poll here. Yep. In phase three, everyone alive. You
see the ping going down. They don't want to mess this up again. One tank needs to
take the debuff over to the ping point in order to drop the spiders off there. While the other tank
tries to pull the boss away so she doesn't eat the spiders, but still remains close enough to
ideally get cleaved from the spiders onto the boss. Let's see how we do here. This is Revis.
He's going to go wild. This is his time to shine. Bladestorm coming out, killing all the
spiders. The Nurtle's Vortex. A binding shot trapping them. We may also see a ring of peace.
Don't even need to that last hatch. Oh my goodness. They are min-maxing this so much
because they have those spiders so close to the boss. They still have damage on the boss and are
leaving, dealing as much damage as they possibly can as we will have to make sure we're dealing with
these acolytes as well. They will have a shield, meaning they're not interruptible. Break the
shield, interrupt them, and kill them. And you can see the soul now left behind that players
will have to pick up and carry with them over the portals. If this shadowy nova going
across the platform, as you can see now, if this hits any of the ads or any of the
souls it will be a wipe so they have to carry them over now spreading out we do unfortunately lose
three dps we do have a combat res but this is what we need to see more phase three dodging these
webblades and moving on through as we do have the three souls on the platform that they will need
to distribute among themselves again yes if they make it to the next round of acolytes which
is in about a minute they get another round of spiders ursel's going down binding shot going
down trying to keep them away from the boss. Unfortunately with Revis and Narco dead we're
going to be missing a lot of AoE on these spiders so we have to commit resources to ensure they die.
Now these giant webs are going to spawn the spikes which does huge raid damage. The closer you are
to these shackles when they spawn the more damage you take and we do lose hopeful to that raid
damage. Shackles coming out at the same time as the round of four acolytes all of which
need to be dps down. While they have the shield the null detonation cannot be kicked which
which means that they're getting pummeled by that raid damage, which escalates every cast.
So we are starting to bleed out here since we had 40 PS dead before we even got here.
We have now lost an additional three, so this is going to start falling apart.
However, they did get all of the acolytes killed.
The souls are down. The portals are being placed now.
If everyone picks up a soul, we have enough players to potentially gather them.
They're getting pinged. We need to pick them up.
If that ring crosses them, it's going to be a wipe.
It does indeed do so.
I can you jump over the ring as a demon hunter. There's a couple of ways through the ring including a blink as a mage
And yeah, you can jump over as demon hunter. It did look like I think I think that was nether walk
Okay, yeah, I think he was just immune to the damage with another walk
Not simply it's not the act of going into of connecting with the the voids
Wait, he's immune because he has nether walk up. So he's not taking any damage
Of course not hitting the soul that he's all isn't on the floor the the fail condition for the soul is for it to be on the
Floor since the soul is being held by him
That's not he goes through immune of netherwalk and therefore everything's fine if he had died going through it
Probably still have been fine because he was carrying it except that he would have died and maybe so lingering tail would have run over it
I'm not sure about that. We've also seen people blinking through it
No problem. That was a good poll in the sense that it was the furthest echo has gotten today
And in the sense that we have now had three phase three polls in the last
three or four pulls total. So that's really really good. We also saw some
learning opportunities you subscribe to smiling because you got some new
information to look at. We saw a lot of really great things happen. Unfortunately
losing players to a couple of different damage events but seeing those shackles
spawn was good because we can again start calibrating how far away do we
need to be and what kind of VR do we need to pop in order to survive those
shackle drops which do around one to three million damage per shackle and
there are three to everyone in the raid depending on your distance from
them. Yeah and it's slowly dragging the connecting to every player in the raid. They need to make
sure that they're killing them off. There is so much damage distribution in that final
phase which again is a lot considering the boss is on a huge amount of HP still. They
have to make sure that they are prioritizing the shackles to free everybody and there will
be three that they have to deal with. Also making sure that they are nuking the
acolytes as well. They have to be dead before the Venom note before the shadowing
over because as we were saying if it hits an ad that's already alive it's a wipe if we don't collect
the soul in time and it's still on the floor it's also a wipe so you want to make sure you're killing
them in good time so you can get those souls and the right people to carry across the ring safely
but their cost as well dealing damage to the raid with every cast making sure that they're
breaking the shield interrupting them and while you're making sure you're dealing with all of
these priority targets the boss HP is still very high so we're going to have
to navigate that final platform in a way where you're kind of maximizing your
damage on all fronts right? While being bombarded by a never-ending wave of
spiders into shackles into acolytes constant priority targets diminishing
your attention to the boss so it is a lot but that was a good poll they got
a lot of really good information they're going to need to work out a
strategy which was clearly not apparent on that poll either because they
didn't have one, or because so many people were dead and they kind of fell apart for placing the
acolyte souls. The first round of acolytes are three, they drop three souls. They've assigned out
who's picking those up, Robin, Rison, and then I believe Mirrors, the two tanks and Rison picking
up the first three souls. You need to position them when the debuff expires 15 seconds later
in such a way that they are easy to access, not covered by gloom puddles, and available to
to the next round who has to pick up those old three
plus the new four, which can't include mirrors,
Robin or Ryson.
So it's gonna be really, really important
that they have an actual strategy
for positioning the drop.
Some kind of weaker alerting you
that you're dropping in five, four, three, two, one,
go to some kind of marker perhaps
or perhaps a ping placing those.
Because we saw at that time
that the three that dropped from the first round
were all in very different places,
way back in the room from where they had been
after they advanced around
away from the shadow puddles and toward those shackles and we were in a
position where they were difficult to get to. In fact we didn't get to all of
them the only reason nice memes lived because there's another walk. Everyone else
died because one of the souls got run over by the Nova. So that's going to be
something that Scribe and Roger are working on while Miriz leads the raid
once again through their practice of phase one and phase two. Unfortunately
Velo going down here will need to consume their P1 battle res. The next battle res
won't be available until four more minutes into the fight well into P2.
Yeah, they are getting consistently into phase 3 though, that is excellent to see, this is exactly what we want from them, we want a successful day getting into phase 3, seeing more and more of it, figuring out where they're positioning everything, not only the portals that they'll need to cross the shadowy wave, but also who's picking up what's whole, when are they picking it up, how are we positioning the shackles and literally everything else that's happening, making sure they're distributing damage to the little spiders as well.
Yeah, absolutely. And it's not something that you can simply like assign jobs to.
Everything in that phase is either random or everyone has to do it.
The people who are chosen for the shackles, random, everyone needs to know where to go with those
and everyone needs to know how to live through their impacts.
The people who are chosen for the portals, random, everyone needs to know
where to go with the first two portals, with the second two portals,
with the third set of portals.
And then of course with the souls, while that's not random,
you can assign who's picking them up.
There are going to be so many that everyone is going to have to pick
up at some point which means everyone again needs to be aware of where to drop them off so in between
waves of kill all of the spiders kill all of the shackles kill all of the acolytes dodge the nova
dodge the webs you also need to know where am i going with my soul and when it's my turn where
am i going with the portal if it picks me randomly where am i going to shackles if it picks me
it's a very hectic fight extremely fun to watch yeah so i asked you this question earlier but i
really want to know what your answer is so well how do you when you see this boss how does it
it looks for you as as a you know somebody who competed in the race world
first does this look like a fun boss to play in comparison to other end bosses
or what are your thoughts about Queen Ancerac? I think it looks like a very fun
boss to me Queen Ancerac looks like a much more fun version of an analog to
Sylvanas right you have a phase one on a platform with a lot of movement and
dodging but it's not as lat it's not as well it's not as laggy let's say
that too but it's also not as slow and draggy then you have an intermission
where you're climbing platforms, just like with Sylvanas,
but instead of it being this long track
across a bunch of platforms with fairly boring ads,
it's very fast paced.
This looks like it's going to be white,
so I'll keep talking.
And then you end up having traversal portals
in a last phase, which again, it's very, very fast paced
with a lot going on that's interesting and fun.
I think it looks like a great fight, of course,
having played it, except on normal heroic.
Yeah, it's very high paced, very, very,
it requires a lot of stamina.
Again, it reminds me of Cabezza a lot, where it's just constant things, allocations, assignments, personal play, or memories.
What was your answer?
I approve, to the extent my approval matters, with some of the design choices of the fight. There have been mythic fights in the past, even end bosses, where avoidable damage wasn't that threatening.
In my mind, if the damage is unavoidable, that's when it should be survivable.
If everyone's going to take it, it should be survivable.
That's the frothing poison into the lingering poison into the rest.
Let's make sure that's survivable.
It's hard enough to challenge the healers, but not so hard as to be deadly.
But avoidable damage on the last boss of the mythic race, during the race world first,
the version that the best skills in the world are going to kill,
every source of avoidable damage should be either lethal on its own
or lethal in combination with other mechanics, difficult to avoid death too.
you can maybe make a play to avoid death, but it should require a play to avoid death.
I always got kind of annoyed when there was a mythic end boss, for example, Jaina with
her, you know, big cannon in phase one that fired down the boat. It only did half your
health even if you just stood in it. It didn't matter. If it's avoidable damage on the
end boss, it should kill you unless you make some kind of desperate play to live
through it. So I'm gratified to see that that's what's happening in List Boss. In
phase one, if you see one person die, 99.99% of the time it's because they messed
And they got hit by the blades when they could have dodged it or they got hit by a poison globule when they could have dodged it
Right, and I like that that exists
I think that it should be a punishing fight in the sense that you need to play well and avoid the avoidable damage in order to live
Through the unavoidable damage Jinji clearly having a little bit of fun here in between pull
I think this signals a conversation perhaps happening about what scribe has ascertained from that pull one pull ago
when they got into p3 and did learn some new things because they did it matched their previous best
in the sense that they got to and killed that second round of four acolytes even though they were
bleeding out even though people had died they did kill all four acolytes which is amazing they
just didn't get all of the souls picked up because so many people were dead so they learned
a lot from it that was in fact real progress for the first time today meaningful progress for
for the first time today, for the first time since last night,
and it gives them information and hopefully a big boost
in happiness so that they can have a good,
constructive final couple of hours
as we are looking at it being about 2,000.
Now, one second, I'm American.
20 minus 12 is eight o'clock for us regular people,
which is one to two hours before
they're likely to finish now.
Last night, they stopped somewhere around 9.30,
and then they sneakily stuck around to do a normal
Queen-on-Saric.
That's a lot of the loss.
I might not be supposed to tell you,
but I'm gonna tell you anyway.
They did a normal Queen-on-Saric, testing something,
and then actually went home around 10.
So looking around, perhaps a 10 o'clock bedtime,
although while they were really good in week one
about maintaining their bedtime,
really sticking to an early nine o'clock bedtime,
getting up at seven so that they could come in
this week and do their reset.
Because it was important, right?
It was important.
happens at about 6 a.m. Yeah it's less important now that you think the boss is
gonna die this week if you think the boss is gonna die this week. What do you
think? Well I think it will die this week. I think it's gonna die on Sunday in the
webs. But we are looking at it becoming more and more of a risk that
I might not die this week and you wouldn't want to schedule too much if
you're gonna have another reset. But if it weren't for that this is where
you could say okay we can stay up later which is to be fair the more
native time for most of these gamers. Most of these gamers are used to waking up around 2pm or 3pm
doing their farm raids, staying up until the middle of the night.
Gamer hours.
Gamer hours, right? So it's fairly foreign to them and distasteful and uncomfortable to wake up at
7 or 8 every morning. They want to play later every night in order to wake up later every morning.
Yeah and it being very important just because they usually have to wind back in their sleep
schedule ready for that reset to come up at 6am on the Wednesday. But you know,
without the reset mooming and potentially the boss dying within this reset. They don't really need to
kind of bring their sleep schedule back in ready for that early start. They can just kind of take
it in their stride as they see fit. If they get very close and they want to stay up a little bit
longer they can. They're not under that same pressure. But yeah they have been very very
good to maintaining a very healthy sleep schedule. They've been getting lots of rest
and looking after themselves which is so important anyway but especially important when we've been
here for so long we've had the heroic week we've had what 10 days of mythic yeah 10 days of mythic
they've been playing very very long days on fights that require so much stamina so much focus so
maintaining that has been very very important so it's good that they are well it's very important
look after themselves while they're going through it so they don't get burn out and they can maintain
that laser level of focus through fights that are absolutely testing them in the Meribar Palace
as we are going into the intermission once again fighting through that shield making sure that
they are getting through it as soon as possible taking a big chunk of damage. Yep we managed
to make it through the first rest no problem we did lose nice memes earlier to a web blade
which is a fairly deceptive looking mechanic. They've been getting caught by that a little bit because the indicator vanishes right before the web played
slices across the room, but he got picked up by the battle res next battle res in a minute and a half a
Nice little blink there from hopeful to dodge that giant poison globule now that we've dealt with the second rest of the intermission
The only way to die is by personally walking into one of those big green piles of doom another shimmer to get through
needs to evade this one as well. The shield going down here in one more percent. Several seconds
before the yank was going to occur, we are maintaining reasonably good consistency because
we're in phase two again, evading those dreadful P1 wipes, which all of us want to be gone.
Now, some things happening in the background here is as Queen Ancerac has climbed to the next
platform, she's not AFK. She's shooting void kind of fell fire bolts randomly at people in
in the raid you see that green fireball debuff on robin you see one on canyx you see one on nice
memes that does damage there goes one on genji that does upfront and dot damage making it very
threatening there goes one on ricin so that's a non-stop occurrence of damage happening in the
background in addition to all the damage these ads are doing now they of course shoot that
blue laser which has to be dodged they send out these balls that have to be dodged puddles
on the ground that have to be dodged and then each platform gets yanked again periodically
threatening to throw them off the platform and each time you get yanked in both the intermission and
during phase 2 you
Drop a puddle of webs wherever you were when the yank occurred that puddle of webs does a million damage per second to be
Sten in it
So it's important you position these toward the edge away from the portal and away from the ads that you're trying to kill
We are now on platform number two everyone alive one combat res available
Trying to break through the devoted worshipper shield before it explodes here in about 12 seconds
easily done. Yeah. That was that
was the smoothest we've seen
this platform go. Yeah, they
just need to maintain their
pace. They do have the battle
res for Rycin getting that out
ASAP as the healing dispels are
going to be super important as
everyone's also taking a large
amount of damage as they make
their way up to the third and
final platform, making sure
that they are going through the
shadow gate to deactivate it.
Everybody's taking so much
million damage every time someone traverses one of those portals to everyone in the raid.
You see how threatening those little spiders are as Robin's taking huge stacks of the poison
increasing the damage he takes, but they have successfully killed every ad on the platforms
that are going to get knocked onto the final stage of this fight thus far. Just like you see in
normal heroic, you have 20 seconds to do whatever you want. Top the raid, pop a symbol of hope,
reset everyone's personal, do some damage perhaps as the boss casts this apotic
meaning which it's surprisingly less hard than I thought it would interesting to see they get through this with no problem now
We're gonna head into the actual phase the meat of the fight again the fourth time in the last five pulls
Great consistency coming in from echo
We need to drop these spiders in such a way that they don't get eaten by the boss
There's the infest cast going on robin
He needs to position the boss away from the spiders and mirrors needs to pull the boss to where we can actually
DPS them without getting to the boss.
They're getting so close, but they want to make sure that they are maximizing damage out
on those little adds as well as the boss.
Having them in cleave range is going to be really important as we have the first set
of acolytes coming up into the middle.
They will have three of them first, so we need to make sure that DPS in through the
shield keeping them interrupted as they pull damage out into the raid with every
cast dodging the web blades, placing the portals in the right way so they can
through the shadowy way of
going across the platform and
making sure that the soul
takers are going, collecting the
soul as you can see here and
carrying it forward as they are
going to be gripped in, needing
to take the portal now.
Very nicely done making sure
that they are also spreading
out. This is an excellent pool
so far. We really want to make
sure that we're getting to
phase three. This is a really
important progression for them.
getting Faustory consistently is very very good for Echo as they are baiting the
Swirlies they're gonna be dropping getting more spiders that they do need
steep DPS down. Yes they baited the Swirlies we did lose both Zatzi and
Reisen there. Zatzi getting a battle res, Reisen going in spirit form and now
Reisen is gone for the rest of the fight so this pull is going to be in
desperate and dire straits. We now have these pillars coming out they get
drop the blades on everyone we do lose another player narco wide as we are
heading into the second round of acolytes four acolytes down with more players we
had alive than they melted their shackles the shackles have gone down and three of
the acolytes one acolyte remaining that goes down as well that's well done
now we have to pick up seven souls on players that don't already have the
debuff so everyone except mirrors and robin needs to potentially go collect
these souls right before the incoming void wave white runs over them and wipes the
group the portals are already placed here comes the void wave souls have been
picked up each person with a soul ticking down requiring healing as they
head through these portals then of course once you go through the portal you
have to spread with these circles and dodge all of your shackles number two
coming out this is gonna hit very very hard Rev is going down narcos still
dead Ryzen down we do lose several players in these shackles because they
do damage based on proximity and they were right next to each other so
That did a lot of damage, but this is now the furthest point Echo has ever made it to with a new best on the boss 35%
Heading into the next set of hatchlings
Yeah, they cannot let these hatchlings go into the boss
The boss would be needing an incredible amount damage out to the raid and so we want to make sure a DPS in them down
There are so many of them there as the
coinciding with the five acolytes so many ads up at once
Wow
Yeah, I mean, that is excellent for Echo there getting back into phase three.
This is exactly what we want to see from them.
That was an excellent cheers coming in from the room because that was the best
pull of the day, the best pull of their progress, which means that they have now
officially despite a long day of regression and disparage.
They have progressed.
That is a new best from Echo.
Very well done, not only in terms of boss health, but also in terms of
mechanical progression.
We made it to the third round of spiders.
We made it to the third round of acolytes where there are five acolytes and we successfully not only killed the four acolytes
But navigated through seven people picking up their souls taking through the portals making it to the next part of the fight
So huge regression from ago. Yeah, and that was fantastic even to see that they had really fixed their positioning
They had the shackles in the very the place very particularly so they were cleaving them not only together
But also with the boss as well
So that was really nice to see. They had the assignments go out on who was going to be picking up what soul and when
carrying those seven
Successively across the shadowy wave wave going across the platform. So that was huge
Progress from echo there now seeing as we had the best pull
May have noticed I mean Jesse have some pretty nice merch on true
I have this so let's like it. Let's like no, no, I did ask for this
I wanted a replay. We're gonna look at a replay and then we'll do some...
Okay, never mind. I've been told we need time to set up, so we're gonna sell merch.
Since we've got a new best, they're going to be activating a new 10% off code on the entire merch store.
Everything on Echoes merch store, XClam merch in the chat, will be 10% off
for an hour after the new best achieved on this boss. And as Jordan said, we're showing it off now.
Yeah, you can get some really nice t-shirts and also we have our lovely merch,
this raid the spiders rule the crabs rule which are super cute designed by sam in production
you can see the crabs rule on the display up here so we have some wonderful merch available
and as we had our best for yet there will be 10 off yep there's many things on there have a look
yeah this i love the new merch the new merch is super comfortable it looks really good
but more importantly it's super comfortable i think this is the fourth time i've worn this
shirt during the race world first. I'm obviously having washed it in between a couple of times.
It's very, very nice. It's very comfy. And the hoodies are so good. My favorite hoodie being the
zipper hoodie. That one's really, really good. Yeah, you have the brand new Echo Jerseys as well
has the t-shirt with a race to world first. That is one of my favorites. Yeah, we had those in
the Sipulka race and I still wear it all the time and I'm very, very happy to see that
they have got a new version as well. They are very comfy, very, very soft, very nice to
So xclammerch in the chat and then use code echo to get 10% off for the remainder of the next hour
So which is gonna be most of the rest of the progress of the night on any of that merch now
I did ask Mitch for a replay of the final moments of the
Great poll that we just had and that's gonna be coming up momentarily
You're not missing anything right you can see the top right the inset that the players are not pulling it
They're looking at replays themselves
All right here. We see hopefuls POV
This is before the frothing gluttony where we are dealing with seven souls being picked up by seven players
You can see their health ticking down. It does so much damage Robin
Which I hadn't noticed first time around and mirrors picking up a second soul wild debuff
That is crucial and really really important. I'll come back to that in a moment
That sent us into the next round of spikes both people with spikes dropping out there
Those shackles hitting so hard based on proximity so we're gonna need a strategy deal with that
We see the seven souls on the ground here as we get the infest on Robin, which will drop the spiders going straight into
five seconds later the acolytes. So you have shackles, five seconds later spiders, five seconds later
five acolytes to kill all at the same time.
Yeah, and what's really important about that is that every single one of those things that you just said are
priority targets. Those little ads you can see towards the left cannot go into the boss other ways.
they explode onto the raid. The acolytes also your priority target as they are dealing significant
amount of damage out to the raid. You also need to make sure that you have them killed in enough
time for people to collect their souls and successfully take them through the portal.
And also the shackles going out on the entire raid. So every single one of those things being
a major priority target. And then also you have the boss health as well. That boss is pretty
Although, I mean she lost 10% there just by advancing one more minute into the fight,
which is good to see. Obviously a huge amount of optimization in mid-max will occur. They
can find a lot more damage. Now, one thing I want to talk about. Last night when we
got to this phase for the very, very first time and we started speculating about the
addition of more acolytes every round and more souls need to be picked up every round.
When you pick up a soul, it leaves behind a debuff called Essence Guard. And that
debuff says if you pick up a soul again it's going to do 1000% more damage to
you we assumed that meant you'll die with it right and that was going to be
some kind of hard or soft and rage where people basically sacrifice
themselves in order to traverse those souls through the portal so you didn't
wipe what we saw earlier today was Robin accidentally picking a soul back
up right after having dropped it and we got to see data showing that he
was taking around 1 to 1.5 million damage per second while having that
soul while debuffed, which is an extremely manageable amount of damage for a tank if you
know about it and are planning for it.
What we just saw and that I did not expect to see.
On their very first attempt of actually dealing with the 7 souls at once, Echo deliberately
had both tanks pick up a soul after having already done the first round, while Essence
Guard.
So now, them dealing with that second stack is an essential part of their strategy and
Crucially both tanks lived we have proof of concept that they can do it
Which means we can make it past the third round of ads which will drop ten total souls with only
I'm sorry twelve total souls with only ten people and debuffed so everyone in the raid that didn't already pick up a soul
We'll have a soul and the two tanks will have a soul while debuffed and we know it'll work
It's already been proven on that round really good science being done by echo
Yeah, they did lose a few people, so it could have been that they were one, trying to sign
it out, seeing if they could live and two, because they had lost some people, it's like,
okay, well, why don't we test this now, anyone pick it up.
But that is very significant to see as you will have 22 debuffs, you will either have
to sacrifice some people, maybe utilize some immunities to help out here and there.
having the two tanks take the two souls and living with it was very very important to see
that buys them an extra approximately one minute and five seconds in the fight until presumably we get
the next round of six acolytes at which point now that you're not we see the we haven't see
okay so I don't think anyone has no it happens yeah I think um liquid progress have made it to
the five acolytes and Echo have made it to the five acolytes as well so that is the furthest
progression from both guilds we haven't seen the six acolytes but if they exist we don't know
if they exist we haven't seen that far into the fight yet what is clear is that if there is another
round of acolytes and it doesn't matter how many there are that is the last round you can deal
with you can kill those acolytes but then a minute after they spawn when the frothing wave
comes in you cannot carry them all without multiple people including non-tanks picking up the soul
wild debuff and those non-tanks will guarantee die ain't no heal team in the world healing through
lots of people taking 1.5 million damage per second on their five and a half million health
codes that that's going to be death but that's a hard limit to the fight that got pushed out
by a full minute by the discovery now that the tanks can deal with that debuff in a way that
we did not anticipate last night and do so relatively handily, both of them surviving, no problem.
Yeah, this is going to be a big mood booster, which is exactly what they need after a very long,
grueling day of progress. Seeing that light at the end of the tunnel, reaching that progress
point, reaching further and further into the fight, getting that significant, important intel
in a way is going to be is very fantastic for them. So let's get those important consistent
pulls into phase three as we are entering phase two now no by no means just because you know you
have phase one at the start of the fight doesn't mean that it's easy. They need to battle their
way the entire way through. Absolutely and last night after their very best pull of the night
the mood was exuberant but almost too exuberant because then they started wiping in phase one
for the remainder of their raid night as they just thought about phase three all the time.
Hopefully that can't happen again. They need to be focused in, locked in, getting to that point
again, consistently making it into phase three to practice what they've learned and continue
to progress through. Luckily and good to see on this first pull after their best pull of the
progress thus far, they are on the second platform, the most difficult platform, and we
do see a wipe there as we do miss one of the portals. It remains very difficult. That
platform arguably the hardest point of the entire fight until you reach the five
acolytes in phase three. It is a really really difficult overlap of mechanics on
that second platform. We wiped there but it's still good to see that we're not
wiping in phase one but just what happened yesterday. Yesterday at the end of
the night when they finally had their really good pull wiped in phase one for
an hour. This time we had a really good pull got to the hard part of the
fight so that's still good. Yeah again progression is not linear and you're
going to have every single pull be you know further and further progress as we
keep saying this fight is incredibly difficult overall so you are going to get
those phase one wipes every so often but it is excellent to be seeing a lot of
phase three in the later part of the evening. It is it's very exciting and I
know you guys are excited as well I think the players probably are too and
I for one am very curious what they are saying I wonder if the morale is
better I wonder if they're talking about the phase I wonder if they're
locked in on the on the poles they're currently doing so let's have a little bit of a listen in
with wave here player comms for a little bit yeah i was a global too much that the minis i
i see nice music in kush at least kush is doing ultra save hey fissmer so you have six minutes on it
what are you doing what am i doing no we're just so you're doing it really safe you're like
going out early which is good
can we modify this recurrent for sure
which what modification i wasted my life the feast recurrent so it doesn't
actually go well um or sound i think i must have
been looking away buff of 59 minutes yeah oh yeah i was like zero point
too late i'm an air horn if you have more than 30 minutes of like
I'm making a ticket really.
Ok.
Ok.
I'll do that again.
It looked like it.
Because I was late.
Came out of the insta died.
That's what it looked like.
In fact, no melee died on this fucking crazy over here we had.
I arranged to never speak again.
This was crazy.
This was actually great that no one died.
This tier has arranged it over here.
Like the one time you guys were doing mechanical yapping, one time bro.
Yeah, yeah.
But I'm still good, I play one mechanic every six months.
Stack up.
Change your PIV on the uber knocks.
Yes.
And this was a grand batch stack up.
Loots coming.
You took better loots.
I got hated.
We made it here.
Get servo, midi squad.
Getting ready, moving.
Oh.
Fine.
Great job, thanks Matt, we didn't even find SodaDew
And they're watching the blobs
Watching the blobs in
Invading into the woods
The woods coming in
Please put blue also on the blue one
Place everything in this room
I know, I know
Good, uh, the baits
In the antagonist
Leg it
That's it
Last airs
I think that's what we need to do though I think
Why are we going two corners actually in searchers one
are you using time?
Pools which is exactly what Echo needs. We have had a whole entire day of initial bit
of regression wiping in phase one, intermission phase two. So we really really need to be
consistently getting into that phase three because there is still so much to be learned
as they are testing the waters now but we really need to get back there.
Absolutely. After what can only be described as a day of trolling. If we're being honest
for themselves. No one in the room would be upset that I said that they all agree. After
what can only be described as a day of trolling, they have started having very consistent entrances
into P3. Not all of them, you know, super clean, not all of the P3 is going as far
as they could. But going to P3 regularly is a huge stride forward compared to the
rest of the day. And they are now getting to the point where just a couple of polls
ago, they had their best poll ever, including yesterday, learned new things, saw new
mechanics and dealt with things successfully that they had never dealt with before and so we are now
in the good timeline where Echo is playing well and seeing new stuff and frankly we may see them
extend their raid today because of that right um we talked earlier about potentially staying up
because the reset timing doesn't matter as much you might consider staying up later today yeah
they don't necessarily need to you know rain back in their sleep schedule ready for that
Wednesday 6am start as we often see them be very mindful of during progress but with this
probably not making it to the second mythic reset we may see you know it could die this week
therefore they're going to give it their all and it takes a slightly longer days for sure. Yeah if I
had spent all day trolling and then which I have in the past and then was playing well for the
last hour so I'd say if I were in their shoes I would say okay let's just play into
who are too tired to play well, right?
Why stop a role?
If you're on a role, let's continue it
as long as we're being productive,
as long as we're learning new things
and seeing new things and making progress.
Let's do progress now,
that we're finally making progress.
So it'll be interesting to see if they do that
previously they hadn't been going to bed
around nine to 10,
so we'll keep an eye on that clock
as will you guys.
But I would say as a fan of the Race World First
and as a fan of Echo,
keep going until fatigue sets in
and you can't play well anymore.
Let's take advantage of what we've got going on.
Narco going down and everyone heading off the platform,
dive bombing the spider webs at the bottom yeah this is going to be one of those things where
there's not much to be learned here we need to be getting into the later portions of the fight
where there's many close-back resins possible we're losing somebody very early on he was trying
to die and he was stuck in a route couldn't go anywhere he was like what i know we have to wipe
what do you want me to do i was rooted he's a wrong one from me he had close of shadows
you know he was supposed to get out of every route why didn't he get to that route use your buttons
explaining it to i think it's nice memes on one side of him and perfecto on the other side of him
yeah i think i think it may have been a mistake to put cushion nice memes and perfecto all in a row
maybe you need to split up the melee cartel the melee cartel they're just always screaming
it's funny because they're always laughing they're always laughing they're always sitting
in their secret lab chairs in ways that no one else has ever invented. Oh yeah, Kush was full
horizontal, but kind of in the other way, like sideways. I think we just saw Perfecto walking
towards his chair. We actually stopped by and talked to Perfecto a little bit. He just got in
from the gym as he's been bent to this bus for a little while. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we had
a nice little chat in the kitchen while we were also taking a little bit of a break,
have a little bit of a stretch before we proceed with our progression here but it was very nice to
speak to him. It was. I thought he had an interesting opinion about this boss dying this week.
His opinion was that it won't. His opinion being it's not dying. It's not going to.
It's not it's not dying. But he was also telling a story that you guys had from Argus I believe
where the legitimate meme of oh no it's gonna die at 30% which I think we hear a lot you know
because saying oh no it's gonna it's gonna transition it's gonna phase it's gonna be a
secret mythic phase or the boss is gonna die at 30% which I just thought everybody was having fun
with I know that we did it last here as well for example where we was kind of waiting to see if
there was a mythic phase on brach maybe I was saying it got to 30% and then it got below
30% it's really like okay 20% and it kind of just de-escalated down with the
health pool. And I didn't realize it was like an ongoing meme. Yeah well it's
because it's originally you know it's not a meme right there's there's this
continual pattern and it happens even to this day it's happening right now in
this boss of both players and you know fans and audience looking at the
initial attempts at something and thinking that's impossible it can't
be done. Mathematically impossible, must die at 30%, has too much health, can't be killed,
is unkillable. All of this has happened anytime a boss looks remotely hard the first 5, 10,
15 times you get there. Always underestimating I would argue the enormous ability of really
good guilds to find more damage, not only from optimizing damage, optimizing cooldowns,
but also movement positioning, strategic things, right? Famously on Argus that was one
of the first iterations of it where Argus looked like he just had too much health
to get through. So you said, oh, he must die at 30%. He died at 0% and the guild got him
there that week, right? So they just were surprised by their own ability to find damage.
Same thing happened on Sylvanas. We can't possibly get 50%, then you do, then it turns
out that you're 45. You can't possibly do that, but then you do. So the guild and
the player is constantly surprising themselves with their own ability to find damage.
And that's kind of an ongoing pattern. That is an echo specialty as well, finding
damage. So again the history repeating itself everyone's saying oh can't can't be killed must
die at 20% or phase or secret phase or something and it's plausible that it could or it's plausible
that once again you're seeing a fight that's difficult and difficult to get to the progression
point so you don't have a lot of chances to optimize and perfect damage but once you get
good at the fight you find a lot more damage and it could be that it's just actually
killable the way it is and we're all full of the same copium crap that we've been full of
and Argus before. Yeah, we could have this through repeating itself as we are going into
the most difficult part or one of the most difficult part. Well, the most difficult part of phase
one, excuse me, where we have the four fennel bombs needing to pop them in a nice fashion
where they don't overlap with the mythic one second delay. Otherwise, everybody explodes
and proceed on into the intermission, taking that enormous amount of damage very, very
early on. Boom, we have a aura mastery and everyone made it through. We also have
AMZ down particularly for that and then it overlaps with this rest. Couple people finding use with
that. That is the hardest part of the intermission because you have like Jordan said that really
big boom from the frothing poison expiring into the lingering poison stacks ticking on you into
the rest yank all overlapping. But we send a hymn into a rewind into the Archon Six Halo hits
in a row getting everyone topped for this second rest which does escalating damage. Some people
people say, oh, why not just add healers?
This is the reason every part of this fight
has escalating damage punishing you
for having insufficient DPS.
It's way more healing to skip the third yank
than to have a healer that prevents you
from skipping that third yank.
But we get that skipped.
Yeah, that's a really excellent point
because if you add another healer,
that shield is gonna take longer,
and then you're gonna have to deal more healing
because you're in that phase longer.
And every single part of this fight,
being a DPS check already,
So taking a DPSL in place of a healer
is gonna be super difficult.
So we spent a long time saying,
well, this boss is suspiciously high.
So maybe not looking into doing that
as we are moving over into phase two,
once again, as we'll need to make our way up the platforms
defeating all of the ants.
Doing a good job being very consistent here.
Keep your eye on the weak aura to the top left
where the weak aura identifies
who needs to next go into this portal
and how long they have. We do lose Mae Voker. We have a battle res available.
He's going to come up now. Now is a good time because we don't,
or we're not climbing the platforms yet. So it's going to be safe.
That was the second and last portal disruption of this first platform.
We're going to go up now to the second platform.
And you can see cosmic apocalypse in 20 seconds.
We need to kill this devoted worshipper before that goes off while still
rotating through these portals. Canyx and Narco heading through first,
get teleported through, get dispelled.
those dispels do five million damage per portal traversal total so two and a half million per person five million total to the raid we do lose with disco we have a combat res available but it's a
Touchy situation with a lot of people in a lot of danger as we head to that next platform you can fall off or lose that battle res if you're not careful
Yeah, the res went out penguin disco is back up as they move over to the final platform of phase two
again which is really good news but none of those ads are going to have that chaos brand increasing
magical damage done to them which is obviously going to be a significant dps loss but this is great
yet another entrance into phase three tonight for echo as they are stepping up their game
we're going to have rev is pov because this is where he ascends and becomes extraordinarily useful
we need to be watching for their positioning of the boss going into the infest and then
spiderlings because we've lost a couple of poles to those spiders touching the boss
Yeah, they are min-maxing this so much. Having those spiders spawn and be so close to the boss
when, you know, if absorbed, it's not only dealing a large amount of damage to the raid,
but also the boss becomes empowered, dealing, I think, 50% more damage to the entire raid.
But they also get to optimize damage, not only on the spiders, but cleave from or to the boss.
So getting more uptime on boss damage, so it is important, you know, it's not min-maxing for
no reason it never is and it is very very clean but they don't allow themselves much wiggle room
as they will need to place the portals in the correct position nuking the acolytes picking up
the souls well done so far the portals are down they put down marks for them acolytes are dead
ricin mirrors and robin picking up those souls traversing the portal at the correct time to
avoid this yank and the shadow wave then you need to spread out now you have a week where
identifying when you're going to drop the soul and we're trying to position those in specific spots
on markers in order to prevent them from being unobtainable later when they need to be picked
up once again. One of the differences between Heroic and Mythic is those souls persist,
they're not destroyed by traversing the portal. We now have five total D-pissed Dead Robin in
danger as well. Clicks has the onk, may or may not send it. I would encourage him to do so
if I were the raid leader. There it is. We get another round of spiders. These need to be
CC the oppressive roar. The Ursel's Vortex, a leg sweep coming out as well, preventing them
from reaching the boss or a mastery because we're dealing with the spikes coming down,
doing huge burst damage to the raid. Watch the health bar. So there goes Kanax going down
to that huge hit along with Zero. Now we have three shackles and four acolytes to kill at the same
time. Yeah just unfortunately with a lot of the DPS dead the adds are living slightly longer and
then you have ever increasing priority targets out on the platform. You fall behind on the
spider as well. The shackles are going to be placed which needs to be broken out as it
It shackles every member of the raid so you can see how this escalates
You're also, you know steals DPS in the small spiders moving over to the shackles and have the acolytes that are pulsing damage out
Onto the raid as if you don't break the shield you can't interrupt them and you can't prevent that raid damage
You can just see how much it escalates
But they are getting back into phase three that is exactly what we need to see from them this evening
It is indeed wonderful to see and I would I think they may be staying up tonight until they stop
successful again in phase three because it took them all day to get to the point
where they were I can't help but notice a sudden emanation of glory beauty light
and eloquence as we have been joined on the analyst that's by the one and only
Alex oh my goodness oh hey I was here actually just chilling out as soon as you
put your head that on you are fair game that's what we do to Jesse no
No, that is true. Normally I come in and I don't put my headset on and the mic says hey, Jesse, what can you tell me?
Yeah, every time. There's no evading it.
I wanted to have a little bit of a look at one of the cool things that we had Mara's doing, so I'm going to sort that out for you.
I don't know if you went over it in the very best pull at how well he kept the spiders away, is that what he looked at?
We haven't looked at that and it would be great to have you look at that.
I'm going to show you it's so cool. Give me a minute, I'm going to figure it out.
Very good, very good. If you just want to give us a thumbs up when you have something to tell us,
We will come to you when there is a gap in which to do so
We have some phenomenal tools over there on the Maxwell analysis that's not only the warcraft logs
But also the echo review tool we've been able to use to show you some replays
Which is very very nice. Yeah, it's always funny because you go over to the Maxwell analysis desk
And you you know give us an indication that you have something and your your indication is always like
You know when you have time no rush
I just I just have something if they're between pools as they are now if we're wasting, you know
I can talk about something but I always get so excited for what you have to show them as soon as you put your thumbs up
I'm like Jesse on the analysis desk has something to show us
We're in a pool right now
We're in the middle of a pool. Yeah, the new best for sure
I do enjoy my time over there
I typically will go through the logs or the vods and find little bits I can use to illustrate to the chat
You know something happening under the hood or how we're strategically handling something cooldowns being used and kind of movement
And then I'll prep it and I'll have it ready to go
When we're between poles, right?
But then if someone gets excited and you know pulls it right up every time
Which is every time. Oh, Jesse give me a thumbs up. It's time for Jesse
I think we can all agree chat that Jesse is absolutely delightful
I know that there are at least five people out there that enjoy the numbers and me and them, you know
and me we're tight
Me and those five
We are clearly looking at you know a variety of things right that was a really good pull
We got into phase three again. We did not progress past our previous best
We wiped to the second set of acolytes, which has four acolytes overlapping with spiders and shackles
So we aren't seeing something new, but it's only our third time seeing that round of acolytes,
our second time beginning to try to DPS him.
So we are learning new ways to handle it.
You see Roger teaching the class exactly what he wants in terms of positioning for the souls,
exactly what he wants in terms of DPSing those adds,
the priority as he rotates from the spiders to the shackles to the adds.
Another thing that we've been dealing with is that they clearly haven't sorted out yet.
There's a huge amount of strategic considerations going on.
Where do you bait the shadow puddles?
Where do you place the spiders?
How far away do you have the spiders?
What's the CC chain on the spiders?
How far away do you go to the shackles?
Where do you position them?
What cooldowns are we going to use for the shackles?
The people dropping the shackles also take,
the way the shackles work, when they drop,
you take more damage the closer you are.
And every time shackles drop,
the people dropping them die.
How are we going to deal with that?
These are all the, there's a long to do list
on Scratch's PC of things to fix
and strategies to create.
And they're working their way through them
as they encounter them for additional times.
and we start being able to perhaps iron those out.
I did see the signal come in from Alex, didn't I?
Yeah.
Sure.
All right.
We got to start.
I did not give the signal,
but I've just found it, so I'm just ready.
I just read your mind.
You did read my mind.
Okay, I think we can jump over to the review tour.
As I do want to show you one of the things
that Meris did right at the end of our very best pull,
it's hilarious.
I'm just going to let the clip play.
So this is just as the port was being placed down
the second set.
And we're obviously going to be getting all of the sevens
souls, the seven essences going through the portal, you've got to pick them up, so he is
responsible for one of them, so he's going to be taking it right on through. But the
main thing here that I want everyone to focus on is how the boss is positioned, even though
there is fire and brimstone raining down upon us, exactly how they manage to keep the
boss away from all of those little adds that they are generally having very close
to the boss. So you can see here that now gets the infest cast and takes it over
towards the edge of the room, which, there we go, there's going to be placed there.
is immediately taunting and moving the boss away, all whilst being slowed mind you and
dragged in towards, karma's a cucumber placing down that ring, rolling the boss to make it
so that the ring is between the adds and the boss, which is ingenious, generally chilling
out rolling back towards the adds, stunning them then like, okay that's my job done
after doing a little spin on the spot, and then slowly waddling away to make it so
the boss can be cleaved by those. Look at the raid, everything's on fire and he's
like yeah and I'll just keep going this way, the adds still never touched until
He died. It's just genius. I just I was watching the play and I had to show it because I think a champion. It's so fun
Absolutely incredible play actually and the I champion in action
calm and cool exactly as he
Always is so not surprising to see but it's good to highlight all of the things going wrong
And how these players are dealing with one of the things that's most beneficial
I think for people at best for people casting is to try to answer that perennial question and chat
well this looks easy why don't they just do better it's fun to lift up the
hood and see what's going on under the hood especially in that clip right where
you're seeing how particular that bite is so you know Mara's running over then
having to kite the spiders while also dodging the web blades so you have to
keep in mind the direction of the boss and kind of the distance between them
while also dodging the web blades because he's also moving the boss so
We need to dodge in a way that doesn't allow those spiders to go into the boss
There is so much that he is juggling at that point and you can't appreciate that from looking because there's so much going on
And you can't necessarily appreciate always as a viewer as well. I don't think his heart weight right even went up
No, just full chill. It's just another day at the office for Mara's is ingenious. It's so fun to say
Absolutely. Yep. Thank you for that a little bit. That was awesome to take a look at we've been seeing similar things go on for example on platform 2
which gets extraordinarily hectic and is a cause of a lot of wipes because you have
a similar overlap and concatenation of circumstances where you're popping your
cooldowns trying to get through the shield in order to prevent the cast from
going up that's going to wipe you moving to the portal to the disrupt the
portal cast dropping off the gloom getting those spells and on that
platform dealing with extra to spells so lots going on under the hood that we
often can't touch upon because it's the broad strokes we can actually call
out live during broadcast but there's always more happening underneath
keeping things complex. What are we what are we putting up? I think we can hold and I
think we can have a line of time because we are seeing some good progress from
them. There you go. Making use of those. We're seeing some very good progress from them. IRL emotes. Yeah we're
expressing ourselves. Yes, avoiding the disparaged emote tonight I hope. Yeah I mean it is quite cute. It is super cute. You drew it really well but we don't want that up.
It could have been up for most of the day.
You want that to be gone.
We were in this fair.
It's true.
But the player is currently in a very good mood.
Can we do a pull up player POV and kind of flash around
all of them and curious what's happening right now?
Second monitor, second monitor, second monitor.
We are in school right now.
Roger or Scrype is presenting.
Looks like Roger.
Yeah, Scrype is thinking about something else.
Presenting exactly how they want this upcoming phase to go. He's he's drawn up a raid plan
He has a strategy for dealing with all of the different moving parts
And we've seen now on their best pull how many of those moving parts start to overlap
The first part of phase 3 is almost a tutorial to phase 3 right you get spiders and nothing else
And then you have acolytes and nothing else. Okay. Now you've learned the tutorial. It's time for spiders
Into shackles into acolytes now you've dealt with that successfully great
Here's a round where they're only separated by 5 seconds.
Spiders 5 seconds later, shackles 5 seconds later, 5 acolytes all at once.
So a huge amount of moving parts keep track of each of which requires a certain amount
of attention, dedicated DPS, and planned DPS cooldowns to address those priority targets.
We want to maximize our use of cooldowns to get the most value out of them to deal
with all of these different pieces.
So get our AUEers to kill the spiders, get our cleavers to kill the acolytes,
get our cooldowns up to deal with the shackles.
many moving parts to try to take care of all at the same time as it gets very frantic with the boss
only at 30 ish percent at that point. Yeah there's still such a significant amount of boss health
to take off to just put it into perspective we're seeing Liquid and Echo battle it out getting
into phase three with the boss on 30.7% for Liquid 33.3% for Echo and they have seen
to those five acolyte adds and we've got to bear in mind that the potential next set let's say the
fourth set of adds which may spawn six if we're following the pattern of one spawning every single
time that's still that that's kind of like an enrage you you can't carry that amount of salt
yeah it doesn't actually matter how many spiders if there is a if there is a fourth round
it's over that's it well you could you could conceivably kill that round of spiders
If there's 3, 4, 5, 6, it doesn't matter, you could kill them and they would drop their souls
but then when the froth comes in, you simply won't be able to carry them all. There are too many
and while the tanks have successfully lived through the essence guard debuff taking about
1.5 million damage per second, nobody else will. Certainly not the 5 to 10 people who would need
to in order to carry all of the souls that you're gonna have for 15 seconds. That is
essentially our current enrage point and that's only a minute away from where we've already seen.
Yeah and also we're getting to that point which is basically kind of where it's over right as
you've just explained and the boss has 30% health left. 30%. However it's like we talked
about earlier it's really easy to come into your very first second third even tenth attempt
at a hard phase at the end of a hard boss and say this is impossible.
They're going to find millions of damage.
They're going to find hundreds of thousands of not millions of actual DPS, which always happens when you get more pulls.
Not just from learning to fight better, optimizing your movement, getting more damage, but also moving cooldowns around entirely.
Strategic considerations of how you position the boss relative to various amounts of adds, giving you huge amounts of additional damage.
Similar things happened on Argus where they thought it was impossible to get to 30%, but then they killed the boss until all the way to zero.
Similar things happened on Sylvanas.
Yeah, it's just to kind of pick it back off of that because we've been talking about this in the cast room a little bit
Obviously, they're expecting people to be able to go through the portals with the
debuff right because we get to the yeah with the essence scar plus the soul that's gonna happen at one point
Otherwise, we can't go through the third portal right and in fact, we're already doing it Robin Amirith have already been doing that so
There is a world
It's not one that I want to live in mind you there is a world where you might be able to shenanigan it in such a
way that if you hold a crazy amount of DRs, a crazy amount of immunities, and you make
it so that the raid is coated in a few of those scars as possible by having repeat customers
in the earlier portal, so to speak, that you might be able to get it through with more
people than you would otherwise expect. The mechanic normally of vulnerability is
telling you don't do it. You know, you're not allowed, we as Blizzard are telling
you this is a bad idea, you might be able to choose it, but for what gain? There
seems to be a gain, it seems to be survivable. So instead of it being a like complete
shutout of you're not allowed to go through the portal with this debuff. It may be instead
the Blizzard are saying to us you can go through the portal with it, but you just need to make
sure you have the correct defensive cooldowns available.
I wonder if we can actually map this out and you're having access to PC, you could do a spreadsheet
for this, right? We already know that on the first round they're using Ryzen, Mirrors and Robins.
Oh, that kind of thing. Right. And so on the second round, on every subsequent round,
they're going to use mirrors and robin because this the essence scar doesn't stack you get one applications of essence guard
Increasing the damage you take from carrying that soul by 500 percent. That's 1.5 million damage per second
So we know on round one two and three and potentially if we get that fourth
Which is what we want to map out right now robin and mirrors will take one reducing the number of people that are proliferating through
So we have one non tank essence scar on the first round. I got in we have
7 minus 2 meaning 5 with rising to make 6 non-tank essence car on the second round
This is something that we should be able to map out and say what would it look like on a on a potential
fourth round of
Acolytes where we are dealing with
six
Acolytes yeah, I can look into that
I think the biggest struggle I'm gonna have is finding a Excel software
Because I can't find cheap software on this so I'll work on that. That's gonna be the whole
I think you should just use a pen and paper.
I think you should just use a pen and paper.
You can also use a notepad.
I mean, we don't need to spread you for it.
You can...
We can probably do it in our head.
I need a spreadsheet for this.
No.
I got halfway through it in my head already.
We already know...
My head is empty.
Well, while they are battling out on this final boss of Nerubar Palace, we have Echo's
AWC team playing at the moment.
So big love and support to them as well as they are competing, which is also
very exciting.
Yes, I know a lot of PvP fans out there. They have been victorious in the past.
They also did a lot of work earlier this season helping the Echo Raiders who needed to farm
Conquest and PvP get that done as well, getting a certain number of wins for that PvP player.
Oh yeah, and there was the match where, oh I can't remember it was the Raikou with Minni.
Yes, was it with Minni? It was with Minni. They had their 2v2. Minni had died and then Raikou
2v1 on his frostmage and it just the whole thing was just a spectacle to watch. They are insanely good players.
Check them out if you would like. We are not missing anything. As soon as we have action on the screen, we will take you to that action.
We're watching every single POV right over here and you can see in the top right as well. They are currently in Roger's school.
Roger has mapped out an amazing plan for phase 3. In the meantime, you guys.
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We now are looking at a poll. We're out of Roger's school now
Here's the question
Can we maintain the phenomenal streak of consistency we've had in the last hour get into phase 3 and show us
What Roger was planning I for one I'm very very curious now
We're going into this phase one again
And we're going to have Robin take the liquefy while bubbled in order to he not bubble at that time
I don't think so. I don't see first time in like 50 pulls. He didn't bubble it. All right
Well, I didn't know he doesn't do anything other than mitigate the damage
Yeah, it's getting the damage turn the survivability, but it could be that they're assigning it else
He just did it to make me a liar
Oh, yes, he's listening. He is waiting.
As you know what? Jesse said.
See how we do. Obviously also constantly trying to min-max and optimize this P1 damage.
If we do get to the point where the boss becomes a kill in sight,
P1 damage is extraordinarily effective and very very valuable in this fight in particular.
Yeah because the damage carries through right the more health that you knock off
in phase one which is on a timer it doesn't transition out based on the
health percentage it transitions out based on a timer so any health that you
knock off now is less HP that you have to deal with in the final phase so
damage at all stages despite being extremely relevant. Yep absolutely so
constantly looking for that as we get closer in the last phase we'll start
paying attention to the threshold at which we push in phase one. Phase one
should be old hat to the team by now we're going into the three bomb combo
we'll come out of that with three stacks of the frothing poison which will do a
big chunk of damage here in four seconds most important thing is to
dodge these web blades and dodge these big green globules. Phase one is the
most clear indication I've ever seen in a mythic end boss where if you die
If you're the only one that dies it really just means you messed up and there is nothing around that
We have someone is he just gonna okay? I was a little bit worried about Genji
He was just finishing an arcane missiles cast before he extricated himself from that route
Yeah, sometimes it's a little bit tense because you're thinking oh is there no way out of this?
Did something go wrong especially the overlaps with the the web blades?
Yeah, they can very nicely overlap. It's really interesting because this root mechanic in on in normal and heroic
The root mechanic turned into a AOE vest, right?
You dropped the roots around the boss, you spin to win,
you AOE them down, you kill them before the blades.
And I guess we probably thought that was what was going to happen in Mythic 2.
But the overlaps are so nasty and so tight and difficult to deal with
that it really became a simply make this not a mechanic thing.
And it becomes kind of a weird question.
Why does it exist?
It drops the spiderwebs, which, you know, cover some of the floor.
But if there's no punishment for removing the root, which there isn't,
Why is it there? Because we're just all going Paladin or Gnome to eliminate the mechanic entirely and it doesn't do anything.
Yeah, on top of that as well, you know, let's say it didn't quite work that way.
Well, if you're having to distribute the damage and put an enormous amount of CDs,
because you do have to break people out almost instantly as it overlaps with the web blade and even placing the venom bombs as well.
So it's really important that everybody's broken out very quickly.
So you'd have to allocate cooldowns, you'd have to allocate AoE, which is all damage taken off of the boss.
And we keep talking about how this boss's HP is extremely high so far, you know as they go through progress
They may find it in the boss will die over at 1% if there's no shenanigans
If there's no secret mythic base then the boss will die at 0% so they very much need that damage on the boss
so as you're saying it is kind of a
Nullified it with utility so it does beg the question of huh, well if I'm not supposed to play this then what are you doing here?
True true and fair enough we have fairly low health here as we have one
traversal here at the beginning of phase two. Ideally get everyone top before
this knock we are all still alive with a combat res available a second combat
res becoming available in about 35 seconds. We're gonna have zero and many
going through this first portal this portal being the mythic mechanic each
side has a portal which teleports you to the other side if you don't go
through it it explodes killing everyone and then once you do go through
It just starts into the cast there it is on the top of our screen shadow gauge if that cast finishes
They will all die so they have to constantly rotate players through every 10 seconds and when they go through the portal
They get a terrible debuff that does 2.5 million damage to everyone in the raid when it expires or is dispelled
There's two of those per round so every 10 seconds 5 million damage to rate here
We are on platform to canyx picking up the bop to make him not get gripped by this rest
So he can make it through the portal, but he's a little bit late
Yeah, they are really a min-maxing when they're going into the portals to the point where, you know, there's not much room for error or slight delay.
Do we need to squeeze and wait for that late to seconds?
It may not. Okay, so there's a couple of considerations, right? First of all, it could simply be error.
You know, he was, the rest, even though I was bop, is slowing him while he's webbed, so it's a little bit slower and more difficult to get there.
Everyone makes mistakes every now and then. It might have just been a mistake you do want to min max it a little bit
The portal is casting every 10 seconds if you go through every 10 seconds, and you're getting
One person debuff you can't do it again every 10 seconds and you're getting 5 million damage to rate every 10 seconds
The safer you are on the portals the more dangerous you are with the debuffs if you go through every five seconds
Of course, there's no risk of the portal exploding
But you're doubling the number of debuffs you get and it's a lot of damage
So there is some value to delaying it as much as you can safely.
There's no value in losing a pull entirely because you've been too greedy.
We saw something similar happening in the last phase where they're really
mid maxing the placement of these spiders that come from the infest,
holding the boss quite close to them and relying on well executed C.C.
to ensure the spiders don't reach the boss.
We've lost at least three pulls in phase three to spiders reaching the
boss, which is just a guaranteed wipe.
Is it worth?
Exactly.
If the spiders are living a little bit longer than they're meant to, well, they're very close to the boss.
There's not too much you can do about it.
Is it worth maybe being a little bit more safe?
Obviously damage is going to matter.
But right now learning is more important.
So I wonder if we're going to see a little bit more safety or we're just going to skip to...
This is what we think the strategy is in order to kill the boss.
Let's go ahead and just learn it now.
It's completely safe to have the spiders right next to the boss.
with the ring of peace and the
Ursuls and the leg sweep and
the oppressive roar increasing
the duration of the CC and the
KS Nova all land. So let's just
play good and play our end
game strategy maximizing boss
damage, which of course we all
know is absolutely going to be
very important. Yeah,
absolutely as we do have some
good news. Echo one in
A W C saw a massive
congratulations to them.
They are absolutely phenomenal at the game. So let's see if we can conquer PvP and PvE. Come on, PvE Echo, we can get Queen Ancerok down today for sure.
No, we can't. No, that was Copian. That was fake news. That ain't happening.
I still think Sunday. Sunday. I still think Sunday. I've been saying Sunday.
I love the two days on this boss.
It's so funny because when you watch it,
you feel like the teams are so close to the end, right?
Because we are seeing the end of the fight.
I think people feel very, you know, intense,
or tense about, oh, you know, it's over.
Well, people would say that from the get-go,
but we'll be in heroic splits and people say,
ah, it's over.
I mean, that's true enough.
I think there's a historical tendency
to underestimate races and believe they'll be over
sooner than they are, right?
I think as far back as Queen Ishara, people are predicting
oh it's over tomorrow in the last three, four more days.
People underestimate very frequently how hard
the last quarter of a boss's health is
on boss after boss after boss.
Now there are exceptions.
There are bosses that it turns out are easy
and die in just a day or two
and go from 25% to dead in a few hours.
But I don't think this is one of them
because of the way in which everything escalates
in that last phase.
Every round of acolytes which come every minute
and 20 ish seconds adds an entire extract light which is 91 million extra damage that
you have to deal with. There's no way not to if you don't kill it, you wipe. It's also
an extra round of cast doing more damage to your raid. You have to heal through that.
Creates an extra soul. It all just escalates so much the further and longer that takes,
the more damage actually becomes required in order to have any leftover for the boss
because of the increasing number of adds you're dealing with all the time. So it
is a crazy last phase that's going to require hours and hours of additional work. Even
in that phase, much less the consistency necessary to get there to practice.
Exactly. It's another one of those cases where, let's say the boss HP can be a little bit deceptive,
in terms of, you kind of treat every percentage as equal, but that final 30% is probably the majority of the fights.
You're kind of treating it as, as if phase one, intermission, phase two, and phase three are kind of equal, right?
So we've got through a lot of portions of the fight.
However, that final, let's say 30%, 20%, 10%
is much more representative of,
well, it's not very representative
of how much health is remaining
as there's gonna be a significant learning portion of that,
which is kind of the race in general, right?
If four bosses are down out of eight,
that doesn't mean half of the raid is over
because I would say the first few bosses
are maybe 5% of the raid.
And then when you reach the later bosses, or maybe a mid tier wall, uh, Kerberza and Brew Twister, actually, but when you reached, you know, the penultimate boss, the end boss, that's basically about 80 to 90% of the entire race.
So it's a similar thing in reverse at those final moments being mode majority of the fight.
Yeah, a really good point.
And I completely agree.
As we do head into another in a mission, successfully making it through the frothing of poison explosion, doing half health everyone in the raid, leaving behind that lingering
poison ticking down while we go into this first rest rewind coming out him
topping everyone doing a really good job of trying to make sure that everyone
lives through that thus far success we did lose our combat res earlier so we're
not gonna have another one until halfway through phase two but with the
poisons having expired we now have one more yank coming in two seconds which
does a lot more damage than the first one but no poisons unfortunately be
losing both hopeful and zero woe and and that's gonna be called a wife
mirrors diving into the devourer to be consumed by Queen Ancerek. Also the way I would choose to go.
Yeah, that's probably a good way to go. I agree. Yeah, we lost two DPS there during that second
yank. I didn't see. I don't think it was to being under health. I think there may have been an accident
with some of the green globules there, but we will potentially take a look at that. Not a lot
a lot to learn from that pull.
Nice beams.
We go again.
Yeah, we go again, unless Roger's got something else
to say about the last phase.
But the goal at this point is to get in the last phase again
for two reasons.
Obviously, we need more practice and consistency there.
But also, Roger had a cook.
They were getting tutored on what to do there.
We want to see what's changed.
Yeah, we want to see what Roger's
mysterious whiteboard of strategy has in store.
No, no, go back to that POV.
I'm trying to see what they're doing in big wigs here.
He's looking at Mira's POV
And we're going in through our big wigs to try to turn on various warnings or emphasize them.
And I want to see what they're interested in everything it seems.
Well, I mean, so, so if Roger is using mirrors to be in mirrors is already the system rate leader
makes sense and he wants to see everything for the most part.
A lot of the Raiders will curate their big wigs warnings and just completely omit things that aren't relevant to them,
which I think it's very, very smart.
No reason to have information on the screen that isn't going to aid you in decisions that you make.
That's a cute couple of warlock gates.
Wolfen zero. Yeah. Sitting in the corner together. Side by side. Indeed. We're like portals on
KWs, I'm sorry. Alright, going into another poll. Really good to see. Yeah, let's get
some more. Phase three polls, Echo. That's right. We are looking a lot more consistency.
Alright. We need a ton more. See Jinji maintaining some good use on his altar time there, dropping
that puddle and getting back to safety very efficiently. Again getting up time. DPS at
every moment of the fight is going to be extremely relevant. Pings coming down indicating what
they need to look forward to next. Unfortunately this is a very tight situation. Pop 1, Pop
2 got hit by the chaos wave because it was too close. We go down. Yeah that was just
positioning error from someone with the bomb. Yeah that is a very surprising error there.
Yep. I haven't seen that in a very long time. The quick wipe to a very basic error, that's
alright. Shake it off and go again. Yeah I mean these happen. Hello Kersh can you die already?
You're extending our wipe for no reason. Oh you can see Kanak buff in here, very nice to see.
You want the spirits to be high, you want morale to be high, it's going to be good for
this fall.
So they're heading on a six minute break, snackies to acquire it, so this does signal
a couple things to us.
First, obviously it signals we'll take a break too, so we can come back when they're done
with the break.
It also signals to us that they do intend to pull for a reasonably large additional
amount of time, I would say at least an hour.
There's no reason to take a six minute break if you're going to stop in 15 minutes.
So even though it is nine o'clock, I would expect this to be here till around
ten at the earliest.
We'll go take a break as well and come back right after this. Don't go anywhere
I think this is like a piece of a fry or something down here, but why you don't
You need a dog yeah
I'm just gonna ask my god
Wait a minute at this point I can't remember that to my clean guys
Wait a minute, why do you have to push?
Vice brand new apartment doesn't clean
That's my dog
Okay, bye guys
Let it ready track and let's pull and
Let's pull and fit it doing
What the fuck is this floor?
This is how it looks now guys
Just by a robot
Are you just throwing trash here?
I don't know
Oh, sorry, I'm sorry.
So there's a fry on your ground?
Well, no. This is not your room, huh?
No, this is my apartment. Yeah, my little apartment.
It looks like there's mouse shit on the floor, though.
Actually, no.
Oh, your house must smell like ass.
Well, then it's actually not gonna happen, though.
I'm recording. Even Sessy doesn't shower, I guess.
I shower every day.
Okay.
They're baiting the puddles, they're out now guys.
At least you don't have an ant invasion.
I did this somewhere actually.
Brakes throw me to the mobs.
And then we have blades up the roots.
They're lagging into blades.
Back on your king, guys.
Someone is in front of the midi team.
I'm parked now in the spawn zone.
Good job, Rainford, once.
What?
Who's deafening?
I'm only getting bullied.
Who's wiping the back?
I'm making this thing.
That's my drone, I can't hear it.
And then we are baiting soon guys, dodging blowers, and baiting here.
Roots, and then we are lagging here into blades, blades coming up.
Back in your king.
That's not what he says that all the time though.
He loves speed lag when he goes up to the king.
There's nothing that turns him on.
Back in your king, we're going right.
I'm going left.
And then we're going forward.
And then Blades coming up here.
He's enjoying it too much.
I was the only one that was outwards.
To the top, then someone.
We will get mage there.
What?
What?
I just touched.
Blades made this.
Yeah, same.
And then we have the Blob Dodges.
Very important, Blob Dodges.
And then Blades and Bades.
Blades and Bades, guys.
Back on those ones, I just joined the ranks there.
We are there first, are you there?
And then we're moving, blades coming up Melys.
Wouldn't die with ice balls.
Very nice, and then we have toxin positions after.
Markers up, toxins. Make sure they go to the correct markers.
And lagging it over, baiting good blades.
Good blades here guys, good blades.
I'll ward them.
Ooh, I don't think it worked well.
Nice, we made it through.
Good, it's all good, it's all good.
Okay, good, eh?
If we go a little bit forward, we'll get help there.
Both warlocks are tight together.
I didn't even know before the root spawns.
I didn't even know before the root spawns.
Yeah, we need to call before the root spawns.
First fight we're ready to work.
Yeah, but the same warlock, we're ready.
It's just really...
I mean, I'm also not in range, you're so fucking far from us all, actually.
Yeah, I think this late of a situation to solve is a very different action.
I think we just let him die next time, huh?
Probably.
We do the main stuff, yeah.
Yeah, I think next time we let you die and raise your hand.
If it's this late, if you get the earlier heads up, it's probably possible.
Are you still pre-porting?
Are you still pre-porting the talking squad?
Yes.
Yeah, I pre-port them too.
Yeah, just do the opposite.
Yeah, if somebody's on your port, you just kill them, so they learn.
I mean, that's not the problem.
Problem is, I'm fucking dying, so I'm thinking about what person to use.
Wait, can I sit here with me?
What?
You can't do that.
Do this one.
Real-timers here, which works again.
Dispells in two, one, now.
Both Gingin' eggs.
This guy's so sick of this.
And go in. Dispells in two, one, now.
Just knock.
Two, one, good.
We on the second round of Acolytes.
There are four of them back yet.
Flash Acolyte going down.
Working on the Acolytes.
One more Acolyte remain to take down.
Now we have seven souls to pick up.
Everyone's still calm.
Everything's still chilling.
We're going to have Mirrors and Robin, even though they're Essence Guard, picking up a
soul to see if they can survive that, and four other players need to pick up souls and
make it through the gateway in order to traverse the incoming frothy ring coming in about five
seconds.
You can see the bright blue debuff of people's health ticking down as they get ready to
take these portals.
Still calm, still chill, making it through.
Yeah, making sure that they are spreading out, giving each other enough space as
they are now dropping the next set of shackles which can attach themselves to the entire raid
and they need to make sure that they are breaking everybody free as soon as possible.
Four people down, Mirrors itself very very low. We have committed the battle rest. Mirrors goes down.
We don't have a battle rest for him. He's setting over Robin Sound as well. So both tanks
die. The spider's still been controlled but the boss is going to be running around taking people
that one by one. We did however, have a huge pool successfully dealing with the second round.
What a fantastic pool. Now we can get excited. The thing that we didn't want to do is come
in and say, what an amazing pool. We didn't do that. We came in with the calm energy
as to not cast a curse while sitting here on the sofa leaning forward as we do get
an amazing pull from Echo there, getting very, very deep into Phase 3. That is exactly what
we want to see. That was extremely exciting. It was extremely clean actually, I suppose
on the edge of our seats. But without cast a casting, so you're welcome.
Yeah, that was really, really good. Other than we did lose a couple of Battle Riders
earlier on, but in Phase 3, we got there with everyone alive. We got there with one
battle reds. No one died in phase three until we were dealing with the second
round of acolytes souls. We killed the second round of acolytes, there's four
acolytes, so souls go down, that's four additional souls. Now you have the four
from them plus the three original, seven total. You have mirrors and Robin pick
one up each while debuffed from the first round of souls they took. That
means that they're taking about 1.8 million damage per second with those
Everyone else taking about 600,000 damage per second with those souls, that's five
people requiring a lot of healing, so that's when we first saw deaths. That was
the first time we've gotten to that point with everyone alive. So a huge amount
of new information acquired about how to allocate healing, what cooldowns are
available, what externals we're going to be using, really really phenomenal pull
there. We did however lose both tanks to that, so we're going to need to
look into that with some detail as well. Spiders were under control. Another
really important milestone we reached there is we dealt with the first couple rounds of shackles
with no deaths that was a first as well. Yeah so progress on many fronts one how far they got into
phase three and two how clean they'd needed to up you know they are absolutely min maxing every
single aspect of the fight even dropping those spiders very very close to the boss but when
it's done clean they managed to get them down with no issue and hopefully it's all of these
tiny tiny things that will add up and really really deliver later on into
progress as we see the boss HP very very high so if they can get a little bit
of cleave while DPS and the spiders are onto the boss that's gonna again be very
very strong for them. Do we have by the way while we're waiting for some amazing
polls some phenomenal polls coming in in fact earlier we didn't know it because
we were here but when Echo got its new best a few polls ago getting to 33%
Liquid was simultaneously in a poll getting their new best of 30%.
So we're in that dream situation for race world first viewers where both guilds are simultaneously
progressing, simultaneously getting the last phase, simultaneously pushing the new best
at the same time.
Really really exciting.
We have a race!
So I want to make sure that while we're having this much fun, we're also doing
the good that we can to basically elicit money from you guys.
For Games For Love, we're raising money for phenomenal charity and while we're enjoying
this while we're having so much fun, it would be remiss of us to not encourage you to continue
your phenomenal support.
You've raised $31,224 for Games For Love, an amazing charity that provides care and help
to those children who most needed hospitalized for an order in a matter of times with terrible
disease.
Really struggling to be children, getting those video games provided, video game consoles,
entertainment, distraction therapy, internships, educational opportunities, scholarships.
Thank you so much.
sending in your donations keep sending in those messages we will read them off
we had an anonymous donation of $100 that is absolutely incredible thank you so
much that's 100 and he held lives that you have enriched that is an
incredible donation thank you so so much any comment or do they know giga chat
Oh my Lord. Anonymous, no comment, mic dropped, 100 children help. Love that.
I mean I love hearing you guys comments too, ask questions, tell us your jokes.
We love that, it's very entertaining. We'd love to hear from you. Is there
anything more, you know, testimonial of someone's good heart than just dropping
money and not caring to get credit or even have their words said? It's just
like, here I'll help kids. For the sake of helping kids, I love that.
Absolutely. You know, if you want to tell us your favorite part of the
race so far, your favorite moment, your funniest moment, let us know. I think earlier we would
discuss, from the donations here, I think earlier we were discussing everybody's favorite raid
bosses. So that was very interesting to have a little back read through. We had another
anonymous donation for $25 saying, I am thoroughly enjoying the race. You are all doing an
excellent and entertaining job.
Thank you, that's very kind.
And you need not worry, while you're sending in those donations, we'll read them off while keeping an eagle eye on our big monitor of all of the POVs available.
I can tell you they are all currently staring at their second monitor, as Roger presents what they want to be doing.
Look at Jinji studying his second monitor.
We did have a phenomenal poll and we saw new information that's going to require tweaks to their positioning, tweaks to the personals being used, the externals being assigned,
who's picking up the souls, where they're placing them, the coordination occurring in that last phase is incredible.
Probably tomorrow when I'm not casting, I'm going to try to put together a similar to what Roger's doing,
a raid plan of exactly what's happening, because there's so many moving parts with the different waves of adds,
positioning of all the debuffs, positioning of those souls, all that stuff going on,
and he's presenting that to the players right now, because if you get to that point, you're seven minutes deep into the fight,
the fight you don't want to waste it saying wait where do I put this portal
what do I do with the shackles and then instantly what and there's so many things
to remember at every single stage of that fight right it's just one after the other
we have had quite a few donations come in thank you so much for your generosity
we have a $50 donation from Delta Chaos love to watch the race for both
I love the fact that this is a community event so I very much support all the teams battling it out whoever's participating.
Yeah, fully agree. I do as well. If you're if you're a fan of liquid you're a fan of the race and I'm a fan of you.
Yeah, that's all there is to say of it. Exactly. We have another enormous donation for $25. No message.
fan of liquid you're a fan of the race and I'm a fan of you. That's all there is to say
of it. Exactly. We have another enormous donation for $25 no message. Gigachad. And a oh my
goodness I've had quite a few. A $5 donation from Endemon saying so I see a pattern happening
When the casters are muted, Echo does big pulls.
Let's go get number one and mute the casters.
Listen, I will not stand for this superstition.
There is no such thing as a cast or curse.
What we say has no impact whatsoever on how well the players play or what occurs in
the fight.
And we all know that's true and I'll prove it on the next pull just you watch.
I don't know. There's no end to my power. We had a 10 dollar donation from Faith. Have
enjoyed watching this race award first. Go Echo. That's very nice. Thank you very much.
Do we have anybody who's first raced this is? Let us know how you're finding it if you're
enjoying watching the event as a whole. It's not hard to find. It's like the top
watch channel on Twitch. Oh well there you go. Really easy to find. Yeah I saw
actually that's very good for the race to see it absolutely dominating twitch in
terms of your ship at the moment fantastic to see so much hype and
enjoyment I'm glad you guys are enjoying the show that's really good to see and
we are too this is when the show gets the best right it's the same in the
midget so I love when the race is competitive and you have multiple
guilds pulling at the same time you're going back and forth which one's got a
good pull they've both got a good pull eyes glued to the monitors that
is the most exciting time. It's amazing watching. I love seeing the battle out side by side.
Absolutely. I enjoyed it as well in the mid-air still. As we were saying, you're not missing
out on too much. We just had a fantastic pull in phase three. There is a little bit of working
out to do in terms of positioning and working out further and further into the fight.
So while they're having a little bit of discussion, we're going to have a little
with you. Hold on. Quick flip the mini. Oh, we missed it. I'm just watching them. Every
single one of has their eyes glued to the to their left screen, which for some reason
everyone plays with the left screen as their second monitor. Don't know what that is about.
I do. Yeah, everyone does. Um, and no. Oh, so is your set up like straight and then
to the right or my left screen is my primary monitor? Let me just math this out. So like
That one's your left one.
Sorry.
I just remember the conversation.
You have letters on your socks until you left and right.
Hold on.
No, no, no.
I'm just, so do you have it like tilt to the right
or do you have it still orientated like?
Monitor number one, like so.
On the left.
And then secondary monitor like so.
Because I feel like a lot of people have the same monitor set up
or a similar monitor set up where you'll have it kind of one face on
and then the other off to the side a little bit.
bit. What you commonly see is the one that's off to the side a little bit is on the left.
And if you do have main gameplay on the left screen, you're kind of orientating yourself
facing that and then facing forward with the other monitor. So I was wondering if you was
playing it similar to that or if you have the orientation to the right?
Both of mine are tilted. Oh, they're just like that?
Both are tilted. Diagonal gaming.
Exactly. And I look left for gaming and look right for track.
Oh, there you go.
Anything but straight, basically.
Wow, we have had so many donations come in.
Thank you so, so much.
Yin, we had a 10 dollar donation from,
shout outs to the unseen heroes of every race to world first.
The mods in chat, people love.
Ah, that is very true.
I feel like the Echo broadcast one,
another thing that I really, really love
is how it feels like home.
It almost feels like a family.
I feel like we've got such a cozy warm chat
where everybody feels like they belong,
and everybody has their kind of capacitors or jokes.
You all have a very nice tone in the chat,
and I feel like the mods do a very good job
of keeping the vibes good,
and kind of cutting out the negativity,
even if somebody's saying, you know, go echo,
but then also being very toxic about another team,
that will get deleted out just the same.
We just like the positive, good vibes.
It's interesting because I have kind of the opposite view.
I try to antagonize the mods as much as I can.
In fact, I have this-
They can't have too much power.
Yeah, it's, you know,
I go into the mod discord where for some reason I have mod thanks by the way, and I'll do things like
They have they have a mod channel, and then they have like a
Channel where they make fun of chatters that are being silly
It's called chat that changed me, and I'll like switch them around
To order the channel so they'll go to the one that they thought was mod, but it'll be the other one. Oh
Just mess with them, and then it's a couple days later. Oh
I'm hearing from production and they didn't know it was me.
So I sometimes get confused because there's always very funny or endearing chat messages
that you see and it usually goes in that channel and then alongside it you'll see like toxic
messages.
Did you hear Sam just now?
I get confused.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Scam is just cursing at me for doing that.
Yeah I mean I just like messing with the mods you know so you know whatever it
takes.
them in chat. Someone has to remind them that we really do appreciate you very much. It's
a hard job modding the chat. I know it is. Yeah, especially when things get a little
bit intense across the channels, people can get very toxic. People love their team, right?
This happens in politics, it happens in sports. You get very passionate. You identify with
a team. Their losses are your losses, their wins are your wins. Their victories are
your self-esteem. So people can get very passionate and heated and we of course
want to keep it civil and the mods do a great job of that, but I also like to poke at them.
Yeah, all right let's get more progress back into phase three. We are having a very successful
evening after a little bit of a rough day. Let's keep this pace, maintain this momentum,
and get further and further, as they did take a little bit of break to discuss
some more information that they found out on their previous pull.
So let's get back there and see what they have cooked up as you can see every time they go back into phase three
It gets neater and neater. You know what seems like chaos turns into very organized chaos
Yep, they do a really good job obviously the first time you get there
You don't even know what the timers are but then you get there again
You see the new timers you get to new spot you find out something else you start having a strategy start to develop
So let's continue our consistency. We've had a phenomenal evening at what after what can only be described as a
a mediocre day. The evening has been amazing. We've gone into phase three several times in
a row, well over two-thirds of our polls getting to phase three. We have now successfully dealt
with the horrible overlap of this intermission where you're dealing with a frothing toxin
exploding for five million damage into a lingering toxin, ticking for another five,
into a rest, hitting for another five, but they have successfully gotten to that.
We have another rest coming in. That's that yank bar at the top. Get far enough
way you don't get consumed pulled in for about half your health. Everybody top
we're doing just fine. The only way to die now is to troll and walk into one of
these big green waves which of course none of the players in this guild would
ever do. I dare the universe to prove me wrong. Give me that cast or curse. See
it's not real. Heading into the intermission now. I'm sorry phase two
with everyone alive. One combat res committed. Yeah they separate as they
They have been halved down the middle, having team 1 go right, team 2 go left, I don't know
why I've swapped them.
They'll be battling their way up the platforms and this is also extremely intense.
You'll have area denial as we've seen, you're going to have mobs that need to die extremely
quickly.
Many physically sitting up at this phase is so funny to see.
Yeah, because even though this phase essentially looks like, you know, we're just killing
a bunch of ads.
really totally comprehend how intense this is just because it's so we're just
killing ads on the platform oh no this is so difficult the longer the ads live
the more damage everybody's taking and they're also taking a significant amount
of damage due to the mythic mechanic where every time they go through the
portal they'll get the gloom debuff that needs to be dispelled when
dispelled deals damage out on the entire raid as they move on to the
second platform where they also have to deal with the ad that's also putting
more gloom debuffs across the platform another thing happening kind of
under the hood here you see both Mirrors and Robin picking up a huge number of
stacks of a debuff. That's from the swarm of little spiders poisoning them,
making them take more damage. It gets overwhelming very fast so they have to
get a lead very quickly but obviously you also need to manage the aggro on them.
You can't a lead them too quickly or you go down which we had some DPS dying
too early in the fight but this going very smoothly thus far both of the
ads on platform 2 go down with no deaths heading up to platform 3 less
still available for phase 3. So this is excellent thus far. Narco wide going down. We have the
res available for him. We need to make sure we dodge these orbs, get through the portal,
continue to dispel the gloom Zatzi going down. A healer going down is a very big deal,
unfortunately. So he will be solo healing on that side. Velo and Reissman over here.
Thane are on the other side by himself trying to take care of his group. But
successfully does it. We're going into phase 3 with one DPS and one healer down.
Yeah, I mean, that just goes to show how excellent they are.
The fact that if they do lose one of the healers,
the other healer will be solo healing on that side
in an already extremely intensive healing phase.
All right, back into phase three.
This is exactly what we wanna see from Echo here
as they will need to bait the puddles
and also trying to get as much damage
onto the boss right now
because at the very beginning of phase three,
they will have a little bit of rest by it
where the boss is kind of just dangling there.
You can see the two things are going on right now. The raid is getting as far away from the edge as possible to bait the pools that come out when the boss does the tank buster.
Also, positioning to deal with these spiders. Rev is getting ready to do what he does best. Cleaving them all down while also hitting the boss.
Making sure we CC these spiders. If one of them reaches the boss it is likely to be wiped, but we managed to get them all down through CC.
CC. Unfortunately we do lose Robin. Robin going down means we are now solo tanking and we have
one less person to deal with the souls. These acolytes will drop that must be ferried through
the portals which Maevoker and Klicks are currently dropping. Marks had gone down earlier
indicating where they should go down. Those look well positioned. We have three dead including a
heal and a tank as we head into the first ring. Yeah, what's going to be a little bit difficult
with solo tanking here is they're going to make sure they're going through the portals,
carrying the souls through and spreading the other side. But what's going to be difficult with the
one tank is the fact that you get the tank debuff that they drop to the side that then spawns the
spiders and that can't go into the boss. That's going to be very difficult for Meris to handle solo.
We've seen him playing out of his absolute mind in previous polls. Pink's going down. But it's
going to be very difficult to tank the boss and also drop the debuff off and not let the
Spiders go into the boss. He did try his best there, but yeah, I think that was that's very much where that was going
Yeah, you saw that coming and you're absolutely right
Typically you have the boss in fest one tank that does two things at once right it spawns the spiders
And then also sends those pools flying at the range you're baiting. They're doing a good job of baiting those
So that's going better
But obviously mirrors can't solar think that because as that infest comes out
The other tank needs to have taunted the boss away as you so correctly pointed out some interesting things
I did see happening though, we saw externals being assigned to people carrying the souls.
You saw a stagger debuff go up on Ryzen, that's an indication he got time delete dilation
from one of our two evokers that gives someone a kind of a super stagger delaying the damage
that they're going to take and reducing it and turning it into a dot over time.
So that helps Ryzen as the non-tank who has to carry a soul live through that.
We did see a reasonably good pull getting into phase three again is great after our
earlier day that's um goodness I've lost count now a huge majority of our post
dinner polls have gone into phase three and we're seeing great progress there
but we need to find out you know why is Robin dying how do we prevent that
what's happening on that last platform that executed a couple of players and
how do we prevent that because ideally we'd be getting through phase two very
comfortably yeah phase two is extremely fragile
um snowballing if you're losing somebody very easy to lose somebody
because of the overlaps of everything that's happening right and the enormous
amount of damage going off as well. For example if an orb shoots through
healer has the side step that might then offset them delaying a second for the
dispel to go out somebody could have dropped a little bit low when you
dispel it then can deal more damage. It's just so fragile in all aspects.
So then we need to see very very clean phase twos but it is it is still very
It's hard, it is. We're 223 pulls into the boss and in order to progress in phase 3, we need to get through phase 2 very consistently.
Any successful attempt that gets into phase 3, even not clean with a couple people dead, is a success.
But obviously it cascades in phase 3. The fewer people you have, the lower your damage on the spiders, the lower your damage on the shackles, the lower your damage on the acolytes.
And it leaves you with fewer people to handle those souls. So you get cascading issues exactly like what happened there.
you are smiling so I suspect we had an entertaining donation. Yes you have all been absolutely
so generous to our Games for Love charity raising money for children in hospitals providing
distraction therapy helping them through very very difficult times and we've had quite a few
donations come in we had a five dollar donation from Captain Adelbert Steiner there's a character
in ff9 a very beloved character and when i did my play through i gave him a ridiculous voice
which i don't know if i can play with the broadcast because it is so obnoxious
well now i have to do it oh i know i've done this to myself but i was yelling it i don't know
i'm yelling anyway do it anyway give us the voice princess keep going
You just chased off our analyst!
He's just hysterically running across!
He's just fleeing the room after that!
It is cackle in the background.
It is awful, so let's not do that.
Wokich, I'm sure.
As captain of the god, I will support children, especially Princess Garnet.
Agreed.
Love Princess Garnet.
That is a fantastic game.
I had never played any of the Final Fantasy games as a kid, so it's been wonderful to go back for and play them.
Thank you very much, Steiner, for your donation.
I had to do the voice, didn't I?
Yes.
It was very cursed.
Well, they donated money to hear it, so they're glad.
I think we're going into another poll.
I think we are going into another poll.
So let's get us off the screen.
Yeah, keep getting your donations in.
Not only is it a fantastic, wonderful cause, but we would love to hear from you.
Anything you'd like to share with us?
fun fact, dad jokes, your favorite part of the race so far.
Anything you'd like us to know, keep your donations in.
Absolutely. I am going to prove that cast of curses don't exist by
guaranteeing that this is an amazing poll in which no one will get hit by a
webblade or a green blobby of toxin because these players,
two hundred and twenty three pulls in are too professional to make such an
amateur error. I've not I've not associated with what's happening.
We have successfully navigated the first chaos nova bumping over it, although those two bombs were kind of close together.
After the bombs explode, they send out these green blobbies of goo, which are eminently avoidable and dodgeable by all, but the most inept of players, certainly none of our players, would get hit by those,
heading into the next set of roots, everyone positioning by the edge of the previous void zone, so drop these spiderwebs.
Yeah, they are using so much utility to break themselves out of there.
A few of the raiders opting to go for gnome to use their gnome racial to break out.
And they are using their freedoms, their tigers lost.
So again, it could just be we're talking a little bit about this earlier where,
oh, well, if it's kind of nullified, we can't afford the damage to go out on them.
What's the point?
But maybe that is for this way of kind of testing again, the players in all kinds of ways
utilizing their utility across the raid, for example.
Absolutely, and obviously getting several race changes to gnome in order to deal with that as well.
We get another round of green globbies flowing outward.
We have a three stack of the frothy poison. You can see how hard that hits the raid there,
leaving that lingering poison line clicks in a little bit of danger.
We need to get him top. There it goes. Mirrors has that healing absorb. Needs to come off.
That is part of the tank mechanic. Going into another set of roots,
dispelling those, fleeing. Looks like one person's still caught in the route.
Oh, that's just Genji finishing with arcane missiles. We've gotten used to that.
another set of web blades missing all of our excellent players who would never day
to get struck by such a voidable damage they're simply too good now we are going into the wombo
combo of the fight fairly soon at 220 on the combat timer that's where you're looking to see
whether this phase is going to succeed because first we place these four bombs in advance of
where we want to go drop back to drop our roots zazzi does go down we're going to commit a
battle res to him bait the blades in advance of the bombs and then get back in the bombs
for these one, two, three, and four pops. Zotzi still hasn't taken the reds looking for a safe
moment to do so but losing that healer makes this very, very scary. In five seconds we're
going to have a five stack explode. One person missing means that we have a much heavier
dot. Mirrors going down means that we're going to all start raining off the platform.
You can't do this in one tank. Yeah, this is unfortunately a wipe. Does it go again? Yep.
was it my fault? Yes. Definitely not. What I say has no influence on them. I'm just going
to say yes anyway. So, Reisen is playing the Archon Holy Priest, which when you Holy Nova
goes out and in six total hits, it's funny watching him fall with it. And even though
he jumped off the edge, successfully evading her, she's still yawning to his body back
on the platform and consumed it. You cannot escape her feasting jaws. Oh no, what
shame. Yeah. Unfortunate. Is that, um, is that Zazi's death? Silken Tomb? Okay, so he didn't...
Hmm, what is that? Just the, just the upfront hit killed him. Did he take damage beforehand?
Wasn't the webblade, it wasn't the glob of poison? That's the important part. Yeah, it just
seems like sat in the silken tomb for too long from the details recap there the
death. Failed preservation. As you were talking about the the current comp of I
believe both liquid and echo is essentially curated for the sole goal
of not dealing with those two's. Every single player needs to be able to get
out of all of them. Jinji for example using escape artists to get out many of
the players using a skateboard
three blessings of freedom
I'm a kid. Okay. All right.
No, I think I think maybe
that shouldn't happen. Aw.
having a great time here. A
little smile. He's not
actually a feral druid. He's
I was going to say prismatic crystals, I don't think, yeah it is prismatic effect to maybe,
but that's you take on the appearance of somebody else, you swap with them, yeah, and every time
we'd go on a break in the raid I would get out a pet and choose a different pet every
time, use the pet mirror which gave you the appearance of the pet that you had out
and then, yeah.
already going to need to be committed on him because we lost our main tank we've
been seeing quite a few deaths because he's to be completely fair to Robin he
swapped to the Paladin tank primarily because Blessing of Freedom is so
extraordinarily good on this fight and it is by far the lowest item level
character in the raid he is single-handedly bringing the item level
from something above 625 to under 625 by his existence in the raid I think
is three item levels lower than the next lowest level by himself.
Because he's laughing is laughing at something, something clearly went wrong there.
Can't confirm everyone off with his pharaoh, Jared.
Well, I've seen people in chat saying, wait, how is Kush a feral druid road?
But it's just a toy enabling him to change his appearance.
I don't think that's what he's laughing about.
He's laughing about something else.
This is hold on.
We need nice memes camera.
This is the melee cartel.
Yep. That's the melee cartel up to shenanigans.
It's good to see them laughing, though. It's nice to see the morale.
I think that's true for most people. It was itchy-smelling.
But I think it's sometimes a threatening thing when you see your melee cartel all laughing
like that. Maybe that's not as nice.
Yeah, they're plotting. They're plotting something.
Roger and Scrib also plotting, both looking up at that replay monitor, looking at something
going probably in phase three, trying to set up some kind of strategy to fix the
issues they've been having but they've had an amazing night finally progressing
over the course of the past two hours seeing portions of the fight that they
hadn't seen since last night so looking through that data putting the other
strategies and actually progressing to the fight for the first time in a while
Alex can you confirm was I right that I'm sorry we have our beautiful analyst
over here I'm gonna ambush him was I right that Robbins item level is
something like three or four under the next lowest in the raid yeah so we
We have 6-20 item level on Now's Paladin and I think the next lowest person is Canix at
6-23.
That's like 3 whole item levels on one guy.
And he wasn't playing this Paladin until this boss made it clear that Blessing of Freedom
was so extraordinarily good and previous to this boss he had played exclusively the
Guardian Druid at the beginning and then swapping to Blood Death Knight for Blood Twister
or Brew Twister, I'm sorry, the Overnax Egg Lady.
But then they decided that the blessing of freedom
on this fight was worth a little bit of an item level drop.
And to be fair, an item level drop on a tank,
not nearly as significant on anyone else in the raid,
right?
The extra item level on a D-Cast does far more
additional damage than on a tank.
So a little bit of a deceptive drop there
for Echoes item level.
Another thing as well,
in terms of general tank item level,
it's only four extra item levels
to get up towards Meras.
is also not particularly crazily geared at the 624 item level. Yeah, probably a relic of the fact
that both of them have kind of been swapping tanks a lot. This tier has placed an enormous
demand on your ability at the race world first level to field a large and varied comp rotating
between multiple different tanks and tanking comps over the course of the tier. We've had
mirrors on monk and blood. We've had robin on blood decay and paladin and druid.
We had canyx come in and tank on a druid for a while, we had Robin DPSing on a frosty cave for a while, so an enormous number of changes.
Oh I forgot about that, that was a sight to see as well.
It's been a wild ride for comp building requiring an enormous allocation of your very limited upgrade materials to try to meet the needs of each of these bosses.
It also seems that in order to mitigate it, it looks like, and this is a bit more of a vibe than it is like anything, super strong.
strong but in terms of the damage taken, Mera's taken a substantially higher amount of damage
so I assume that it's saying that Mera's is likely tanking the boss more often in order
to try and mitigate that lower item level. I think that is true. Also, the boss has
a two component tankbuster in phase one both the liquefy and the feast, the feast being
substantially more total life-threatening damage and that's going on to Mera's. We have Mera's
going down, very very threatened by exactly the tankbuster I was talking about. He takes a
17 million physical hit into a 17 million healing absorb and if he's still tanking while that's going on
He is going to die. We had we had revenues go down into mirrors, which means that you're choosing between
continuing progress after just a couple minutes in the fight with somebody dead for several minutes or
Falling off the edge. They chose a ladder. Yeah, I think I was thinking maybe
maybe this would die tomorrow, but I do think we have a couple of days. The Sunday call
might be very correct. We still have a lot to see.
There's a lot more to the boss. So I started saying Sunday over a week ago, and I'm becoming
much less confident that it's going to be killed by Sunday even.
Oh, are you going to delay it a few more days or a day?
I'm going to stick with Sunday. That was my prediction. I'm not going to make a new
prediction.
No, you can't make a new prediction, but how are you feeling now?
But I'm not entirely sure it will die by Sunday.
This boss is very hard and we have no idea what's going to happen if there's something
that's going to happen at 20% or 30% health that makes it look more killable than it does
right now.
But if nothing changes and this is dying at 0% then the consistency necessary to get
to P3 to find the damage it's going to take to do the last 33% after dealing with
the 5 acolytes, it's going to be a long hard slog.
Absolutely.
I feel like I'm not going to be the only one here, but it could be quite useful to re-iterate it.
I kind of feel like this boss is largely solved and whichever team gets to the final phase makes it to that third set of atco lights.
For example, we are very, very close to the end and it's important to reiterate that I don't think the end is not imminent.
I think that you're voicing a view that's common, but I also think deeply flawed.
don't think the boss is anywhere near solved. We need, you know, 30, 40, 50 pulls in the last phase
in order to work out all of the small micro problems of positioning and assignments,
much less the additional pulls it'll take to optimize and find the damage you require in
order to kill the boss. The second round of Acolytes with 4 Acolytes is already very difficult
to deal with because 7 Souls is a lot of healing to be done and we're losing people fairly
consistently there. The third wave of acolytes, with 12 souls out at once, is going to be
good luck. That's going to be absolutely brutal and it's going to take a huge amount of polls,
practice strategy in order to get through. And then we don't know what happens after that because
no one successfully dealt with it. It could be another round, it could be another phase,
it could be just more of the same. We just don't know. We see reloads going on on every
single player as they stick something. Yeah, so we can confirm from Chris Potha there.
Frago had the fastest processing there, or he clicked the reload the quickest. He was
the quickest out of the reload screen. Yeah, see, yeah, very, very true. Yeah. All right.
I wonder what they fixed. Very interesting. It's always fun to try to guess. I would
not be at all surprised because while they're doing these pulls, what they're doing
is they're having mirrors lead phase one script come in to lead phase two and phase three that leaves
Scrype and Roger free to strategize during both phase one practice figure things out and then once
they've drawn up a plan put it on you know raid plan or or created a week or a strategy then they
can brief the players say okay this is actually what's going to happen when you get there don't
be surprised you get this WD buff you go here you get this debuff you go there drop off your
souls here, you're assigned to the second round, you know, and they're going to be, as always,
fairly reliant on the Echor. It's echo famous for using a lot of Echors to try to automate a
lot of the calls, which you can do here. You can have an assignment Echor that alerts you,
you're supposed to pick up this soul, the old soul, or the new one, which will be placed
in these different spots, and you can be told that you need to go because even around where
you hadn't anticipated going, the Echor can have backups and assignments. So a lot of
week where it's going to be pushed for those exact reasons. Yeah while we are waiting for another
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So we have a oh, yeah here are incentives at 35k. We are gonna go through the
I wonder if we're gonna do Raider portraits tomorrow the return of Alex Ross
Because we've earned we've done operation medic. We've done whose cast is it anyway
We've done RC rumble we've done scuffed cosplay. We've been delivering the entertainment
we were promised however Raider Portrait and International Castor Appreciation Day remain
unperformed thus far so keep an eye on those coming out soon and continue working toward
the Neru Bar because everyone in chat loves it when castors have to eat and or drink something
disgusting. Yeah, great. Yay! Yay! And then we'll have to see if we managed to reach
that $40,000 mark medic niggura and I all getting a team spider or team crab tattoo
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never like had a piercing and ever died my head ever had a tattoo I've got my ears
pierced I suppose I had two ears where such a risquรฉ question I've had two
bearings and I had a 10 piercing. Oh, very cool. I lost them all. Did you just not
want to wear any jittery anymore? I just couldn't find them again. I did the
professional things and Wall Street banks not entirely trusting of people
with tongue rings. Will that be a return of the tongue ring? Yeah. Could be
cool. However, I had it done when I was 16.
I might have healed it. Well, it has healed. Yeah. And I remember
hurting real bad. I would have to find the motivation to do it
again. Yeah, I can imagine that's very painful. Yeah, it was.
We had a $10 donation from backie for $25. That wasn't even
a name that was supposed to get me. I was just trying to
pronounce it in the most elegant way I could. Well done.
love ok mage's voice, it's like the one person in the world that thinks that, so entertaining
go echo thank you very much that's very nice, was it the steiner I had to be the cursed steiner
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out there that just loved it, we also had a 10 dollar donation from the cavity saying
This race award first is again so much fun.
So much anxiety while watching, so much love.
Thank you to all you casters,
and of course the players love it so much.
Oh, I absolutely agree.
This is a fantastic time of year.
A $50 donation from Le Chuck.
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Cute Lugendas, gigachat, mic drop.
50 children aided, thank you so much.
See those temporal anomalies flying,
that means the evokers think a pole is eminent.
The shroud goes out,
tricks of the trade goes on mirrors ready to pull the boss
shouldn't have gone on Robin I think he starts with a boss
a little bit a little bit a little bit wrong there and
as it matters, Robin can do lots of aggro on his own
Robin takes the liquefy, mirrors takes the feast
you see that huge healing absorb which is already healed
through every time there's a feast I do keep an eye on
his health because that is the condition under which he
will go down as we saw on the very last pull
Yeah, that's a web blades
Yeah, the webblades, being kind of RNG every single time, players can bait them, but they
can overlap in a way that doesn't allow much player space, it can be very scary as that
is a wipe, unfortunately.
That's a try not to remember it and go again moment.
Nothing happened, it was a ninja pull, we didn't mean to go.
It's happened to me, right?
You died to something that you should have avoided, you're like, oh, I'm so mad.
Then you get res and you instantly die again to something you should have avoided.
You have two options.
Take a break or forget it happened.
Yeah.
At the race world first level, your mental, your ability to not tilt is an incredibly
strong and important part of being a progression raider.
It's as important as many other aspects.
It's a skillful act thing too.
You can literally improve your ability to maintain strong mental to avoid tilt.
This is something you can practice and work on.
And it's so important because they can't wait 10 minutes for you to calm down.
They're going to pull again.
Shake it off.
I think that's really important.
That's something we can't truly appreciate having, you know,
not played in the race to world first, right?
The stamina are playing every single day, the hours and hours and hours
and maintaining that level of focus, but also that level of game play
is really, really difficult.
I feel like so much goes into that.
You could be, you know, such a phenomenal player, right?
You could be one of the best players of your class in the world.
But to compete at the race to world first level all those things are such a huge factor
It's not just about playing your class or your spec
Extremely well, it's about all of those things
You know being able to play through the tilt if you're having a few pulls where you're wiping in phase one or an off day
Trying to you know mitigate that
Not letting it come into your gameplay as much as possible
possible, these moments where mistakes happen, not letting it spiral, all of these things
being so important.
Absolutely true. If you are progressing on this boss on normal heroic or mythic, you should
be aware that the same thing that killed soul can kill you, these webblades, very very dangerous.
Because typically in WoW, once a ground effect's indicator has vanished, it's no longer dangerous
and you can step into the area that had previously covered that is not true of the
It's a send out that long rectangle that indicates what will be struck and then the indicator vanishes as the blade actually flies through the room meeting up with the corner nexus of that web.
So if you step into it, watch this happen. If you step into it when it vanishes, you're going to get hit by the latch.
Very, very deceptive compared to typical wow mechanics. Make sure that you don't get tricked by that as so many of our players have occasionally been hit.
See some pings going out as we go into two successive rounds of webblades dodging all of those going into our
three toxins at once
here
Yeah, making sure that they are splitting the group evenly making sure they have the
Minimum amount of players in each one as to not take additional stacks as they yep
They boot themselves over the venom wave with a little venomous trampolines
You said boop. I said boop. Is that not the same thing? Thank you. Very good. I'm going into another set of roots.
We aren't killing any of these roots. Earlier on in progression we were having some mistakes where someone messed up their evasion of those roots, but that hasn't happened in a while.
It's essentially become a non-mechanic. The only aspect of that mechanic that remains is that when you get rooted, you do leave spider webs on the floor which do a lot of damage.
And if you aren't careful, you can use too much of the floor which leaves you out of room in the intermission where every single
Pull-in also leaves webs on the floor where you were when you got gang
So you do want to min-max that a little bit. We see a silk and tomb remaining up. Are they going to escape?
Or do they need help? There's the freedom. It was just a little bit late heading into this round of four
Oops in a row
Frago unfortunately going down. We have five stacks of the frothy poison, which means that we're gonna take a
Huge hit in two seconds watch their health get in the MC. Maybe oh my goodness
I'm very very low is incredible to watch them play see Bryson here having to heal that huge amount of damage while also
Dodging that absolute
Water zone that he was in the middle of those venom waves overlapping in that way it truly
showcases how amazing these players are as they will continue on through the
intermission making sure that they are breaking the shield at 40% dodging the
venomous sludge going across the platform growing in size. You saw a couple of
plays being made there because they had used the five stack of frothy poison
they had committed personals there that they wanted to use here we need to beat
this rest by the way if this yank goes off they are dead.
to one yonk, okay.
We didn't have enough DPS before I got dead.
But what you saw there was because we had that death,
we got five stacks of the poison
that hit harder than we had expected,
so people used Personals.
They used a weak ore that they have.
The emergency external requested pops up on the frames
of everyone that has a potential external
saying you can give this guy some help.
So really heads up gameplay from those that had used one
and then didn't have it for the second rest
because you're assigned to use Personals
on that second rest.
So you saw a time dilation go back up
on both hopeful and on Zeruo keeping them safe
through the second rest.
Unfortunately though, we lacked the damage to beat the third
and that third one is lethal.
Now, you can live it if you commit resources to it,
healing cooldowns and mitigation
but they simply aren't doing that anymore.
They have the damage to beat it
which means you don't have anything reserved for it
which means it's a one shot.
Every single time that she sends out that rest,
that yank, it does significantly more damage
than the one before going from around three
4 million on the first to you know 5 to 6 on the second to just completely lethal
damage on the third unless you send significant mitigation so not making that
DPS check means we go back to the beginning start again yeah we go again
indeed they have had so many good pulls this evening into phase 3 but they have
been playing for such a long time even the fact that we are getting into phase
3 towards the later end of the day is very impressive considering must be
really tired the fatigue setting in after a long day of playing, but as we
talked about before, maybe not for the first players, they used to it, right?
Well, the thing is... Maintaining this level of play for this amount of time.
Yeah, everyone gets fatigued, but they spent a large portion of this day fairly
frustrated by their failure to get to phase three at all for a very very long
time. I think getting to phase three a couple hours ago was reinvigorating, and
we saw extraordinarily good consistency in getting into phase three over and
over again finally making progress.
They were very averse to the idea of stopping
when they're actually making progress.
That doesn't mean that you can do it indefinitely.
At some point they're gonna need a rest,
but maybe they're still feeling that spark of joy
at having made it to the last phase
and seeing new things and learning through the new things
and actually making progress that makes it plausible
that they could win the race of the world first
if they keep that going.
But again, not indefinite, it's currently 10 30
in the evening here.
At some point they will go to bed.
Most likely when they feel like fatigue
is hindering their progress through undue and unnecessary mistakes, which to be fair we've
seen a few of lately.
Sol got hit by a couple of things he shouldn't have, mirrors died in a way that he shouldn't
have.
There we saw Fraggogu down in a way that wasn't the way that should have happened, so if that
happens for too many more poles in a row, expect a call to be made.
Alright, we're making mistakes due to fatigue.
We're not going to see more progress, but maybe if we can clean things up, we can
continue that amazing progress, see that last phase, and put into effect the weak
ores and strategies that Roger's been sharing with them.
Yes, Kush is still a cat having used the item to swap appearances with Canex, so very cool
to see. It reminds me of, but I think I was, I started this a little while ago and then
I totally forgot it because we got caught up in the guests on that current pull. But
yeah, I used to change appearances of everybody in my raid to the pet, whichever pet I had
out. Everyone would come back from their break and just everybody would be a duck. And
It was the best thing ever going into a pool unless the raid leader would tell us all for all being tiny ducks running around
But how much better would that make despite?
so you were
You were
Ducking your raid before get ducked was a thing
Yeah
nice
What?
Alex is giving us look. I don't understand
It just got very quiet. It looks over
I'm drawing. I'm trying to cook
Alright, enjoy your cooking.
No, no, no.
It's gonna be so raw, but you're gonna love it.
We can't have it until it's finished.
I don't know, I want it cooked.
Not overcooked, from Devlin and Aral.
Alright.
I'm excited.
Coming up on the intermission here, we have successfully navigated the hard part of phase one.
We have that four stack expiring.
Now, boom!
Everyone's health goes down.
Dot goes up.
Rest comes in.
Everyone needs to be above 80%.
We're gonna die if not.
We have some low people here.
get people top just in time.
Just a heart attack watching this intermission. Everybody's health dropping so low.
It's like it's very yo-yo-y. It makes me nervous.
Yeah, it's a lot of damage. It's an extraordinary amount of healing required.
You see rice and popping both the him, which of course heals everyone.
He leaves a hop behind and increases the healing they receive from all sources.
And then his halo, which again healing everyone
and increases his healing done to all targets as well.
So huge multipliers going into effect to make it even possible to get everyone
talked to here as they head into the final portion of this intermission.
Get a little bit of free DPS on the boss while she ascends part of the way,
heading up to her next platform, going into a P2 pull for the first time in a
little while. We had three or four phase one wipes.
Now we are in P2. Let's see if they can keep it clean, stay focused,
prove that fatigue is not keeping them down, but Frago unfortunately takes a
ball to the face, which puts him on the floor.
We do have a battle res, so he's going to be able to come up hopefully as time to position for the knock on to the platform
I'm guessing it wasn't just spelling at that point
It did look like the player came through the poor soul and kind of distracted brago in a way
if he was dispelling by
Brago doesn't have a relevant spell there
He just he may have been distracted by something, but he definitely got hit by a
By a ball which happens. It is indeed kind of late. They've been playing for a long time
we have banner go down no battle is available for 20 seconds which will be
on the next platform so that's he is solo healing his side right now it'll be
very difficult if anyone can do it it is an invoker yeah this is very scary as
you're saying just because we now have one he the solo healing one entire side
on this platform as well it is so intense the amount of healing required
for this part now we have tenor back up so hopefully they can recover going
through the portal making sure that they are interrupting that cast getting
dispelled final ad going down but we've lost mirrors so that's going to be a go
again angle they are not going to be able to survive the traversal to the next
platform without a tank these spiders will kill everybody yeah and even though
they've gone into phase three with a few people dead let's say and still kept
the pool going without a tank phase three is most definitely a wipe as we
saw even when Marys was solo healing, sorry solo tanking, he wasn't able to drop off the
tank debuffs, warning the spiders and tank the boss at the same time because the spiders
would just instantly go into the boss. Even though he tried to salvage it with the ring
of peace, it still wasn't enough. So, that is all.
Taking a look at those deaths as always checking and it did look like most of those
were too avoidable damage. We saw an orb to the face and we saw a expulsion beam
to the face that's the blue beam sent out by one of the ads on the first platform it does both a
knockback and a direct damage component if you're not a tank the direct damage is enough by itself
to kill you signaling I think to many players in the raid certainly I would believe at this point
seeing so many instances of avoidable damage that fatigue is starting to set in playing for
a long time getting very very late it's natural to make mistakes when you're fatigued fatigue
in fact has been shown to be as impactful as alcohol on your performance over the long term so
maybe time to get some rest they'll see what the leaders decide it has been a while since we had
our excellent streak of p3 pulls um perhaps while we wait to see what they decide Alex can show us
what he's been cooking up in the kitchen it's raw Alex it's so bad that my microphone wasn't
even muted um so yeah it's interesting i've been looking at the last part of their very best
pool where everything went a bit sideways where we started losing some people. I just kind of wanted
to go over what the issue was initially and a potential fix, what they've probably already thought
about, but it might help in terms of how things might be solved. So if we jump over to the review
tool here, this is from the very best pool that we did have, I'm just going to hit play.
So this is as the portals are being spawned, we're going to pick up these seven souls and
we're going to go through the portal, right? So here come the souls. So it's immediately
Following this segment here where we're trying to spread out that we have our first step
So the spread out was a little scuffed to say the least
So we're gonna see a couple people go down here souls already down and Zazi goes down here
But look just gonna quickly pause
Can you see where this person is? Yeah, right now this guy here wants to go all the way over there
That is a very very difficult thing for that person to achieve us. There's no help at all
In any way shape or form. So instead what ends up happening is that they explode in the raid taking out three additional members
Or maybe two additional members just because this does proximity damage when it spawns
So that's just hit the raid for a ton of damage and comparison to the two that's over there
Ideally when I've just put the crosses you would have three like that. That is generally what they're going for
Maybe a little bit more stacked if they have DRs
So if we go over to a quick raid plan as an example
it all goes horribly wrong after this point. Take my word for it. If we jump over to a
rate plan real quick, this is generally what the outcome wants to be, right? We want to
have these three over here and the rate chilling over here. These circle things are the portals.
I've been cooking. It's a bit raw. No, it's good. It's good. It looks fantastic, Alex.
So going back, so they're just taking the portal and then they're going to spread out
into this sort of location. So you want to be spread here with the blink people over there.
They can go over to where we're going to be having the upcoming shackles, right?
That's a good place for us to be now if we have a gateway set up already play placed
Then what you can do if these shackles are really far away and they spawn in the most horrible of places
Well, no issues because they can just take the gateway spread out on that little line and the raids over here chill nice and happy
We're all gonna be good if the shackles spawn away from that gateway
Well by the very nature of them being away from the gateway. They are towards the area
We want them to spread out. They'll do the exact same thing move over there
They'll be in the correct position
It wouldn't surprise me if it'll probably be a bit more refined than that
But it wouldn't surprise me if they go along that sort of line in order to avoid
Whatever mess was going on at the very end of the face
Yeah, because not only are they taking a large amount of damage from that kind of drop off when it goes off
But also they'll need to break everybody out as soon as possible. So having them nice and stacked
Ready for cleave is going to be the most optimal way to get the most damage out on them
Also cleaving from the boss. You also have the acolytes coming down as well
So getting them into a very good position to reduce the damage and to have the most uptime of DPS on them is going to be super important
Yeah, I think that was a great cook and I wouldn't be surprised if you're right that
We may have seen Roger putting a similar cook together for them
We haven't made it back there since then to see if it would go into it. Should I just link it him can someone?
We've seen a cute gateway being used during the intermission
They have a little bit of tech where they get yanked in on the very edge of the previous previous spider webs leaving them
Kind of in that spider web and then they can click quickly gateway away to get into position for their healing and spread there after so
That's quite nice. We've seen that for the last several pulls from rice and for example
We just did do our last rest of the intermission they shield at 10% and dropping fast means that we're looking at a pretty good
Although one battle res down, but a pretty good entry into another phase too
So looking to see if we can get and prove prove me wrong. We're not too fatigued. Let's get to phase three
And I mean, they're still even though, you know, there may be a little bit talk of fatigue
They're still playing much better than they've played when they have been well rested and come in straight away
so true but mean to say I
Mean that in like, you know in a nice way of they can't be too fatigued or
That they'll be trying out to get this
They're not necessarily the fatigue is not hitting them because they're having very successful pulls which they haven't been having all day
We did lose Mae Voker there
Unfortunately, so we are down one player means we need to adjust to that
He did already do his portal traversal those so not having to adjust the weaker forward
It's gonna be down his damage on one of the sides reducing our speed
You can already see on the right-hand side cosmic ascension being cast cosmic apocalypse by those
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28 seconds remaining to make it up there and kill them before that wipes the raid
We've been getting up there with 20 seconds remaining. So the lack of may vocers DPS isn't too threatening yet
17 seconds left. This is the DPS check. I wonder yes, we do in seed
We do indeed see the bloodlust popped. We saw that we were slow
We saw that Revis also died
So bloodlust the only opportunity to potentially beat this timer five seconds remaining. Whoo, that was close
However, we have lost the bloodlust. That does mean that this is going to be a little bit safer for healing than it typically is,
which is nice to see, but with two DPS down, we're looking at a struggle to get into phase three.
Yeah, I wonder if it was one from each side or two from one side.
Okay, so that's not necessarily the worst thing. It was two from one side that set the DPS back quite a significant amount,
as there's still such a tight DPS check on these platforms.
Yeah, with a healer dead, I am not sure that this is possible.
And clicks.
Not only a tight DPS check, but also an extremely tight healing check, glusing a healer, meaning
that there's only one healer on the side.
There are so many dispels, for example, to be doing, especially on the second platform,
you can rapidly fall behind.
Still counts.
This is a phase three.
Half the rate is dead, but we are in phase three.
Yeah, that's very true.
It counts.
It's the first time in a little while.
It counts, right?
It's not going to be a long phase three.
not going to see a lot. It would be a positive thing to check out and try our CC on the spiders,
although we are missing our binding shot. I don't know they're going to be able to make it far enough
to see what happens after the teleport and see if they use a gateway. But you're in phase three,
of course you're going to do it everything you can. So you see the bait call go out,
they go stand on the border so that they bait the puddles in the least impactful way
possible for the rest of the platform. The little spiders get spawned,
reach the boss and kill everybody. Yeah, again that's one of those things that is very difficult
placing the spiders away with one tank the other tank moving the boss away and they are
absolutely been maxing that to the to the to squeeze it to to every bit of its juice. Which
which which with Rev is dead is a dangerous proposition. It looks like we missed a lot of
of CC there. Obviously half the raid was dead. You're missing a huge zone of DTS and
the spiders. It was going to be difficult anyway, but they did at least get their bait off,
so that's being well-practiced. Every bit of practice in the last phase is good practice.
You don't get there often enough for it to be second nature as yet. And we know that
the platform being as clear as possible has been incredibly important in phase one and
became even more important once you got through phase one and saw the intermission.
It's quite likely that it's going to be very important in phase two as well. We've
seen several pulls in phase two get disrupted by the fact that they had to
go back and pick up souls from areas that were already covered in gloom so it's
good to see them trying to continually optimize every aspect of the strategy in
phase three including the position and baiting. I see a portal dropped and
people dropping out of the raid suggesting to me that the raid night
is likely over the call being made at 10 30 p.m. to probably be going to
bed. Wolf is now in Dornegal so is Thayner. Yeah, it makes sense. They've been playing
for a long time today and it is fairly later than they have usually been going to bed. So
it makes sense. Let's hope that they can get some good rest in ready for some more
phase three progression tomorrow. Let's leave today in the dust and keep moving on
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They had an excellent end of the day
with an extraordinarily good consistency
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Saw actual progress, saw actual movement through the end,
giving Scryp and Roger some fuel and ammunition
to do some planning overnight.
Hopefully they can come back in the morning
and truly excel.
I think we may have a few days
all to be seen, but don't miss it.
We will be back tomorrow.
Hopefully again getting that
significant frog into phase three.
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it's very beautiful too like when I walked into venue today which is the only
like walk I do outside yeah I saw like the sunrise through the windows oh I'm
never gonna see this one again for the rest of the day yeah that's how it works
I'm gonna see the sun because I'm gonna be flying right we'll be flying today
unless it's all cloudy outside which are maybe I think I also have an aisle
seats which is less silent usually than the window seats kind of because you're not that close to the
window. Makes sense when you think about it. We're getting to that time of year as well when it gets
darker which I quite like but then I get to spring and summer and I realize maybe I didn't like it
as much as I thought I did. I do like it being sunny at night it's a weird experience. Kind of train
myself into thinking that I like winter which I do. I do enjoy the cold and I like snow and all of that.
I like winter too. It's nice when it's sunny.
I just dislike the darkness of it.
Yeah, if we could have the sun of summer.
In the winter.
In the winter, but with the cold of winter.
Yes, I would actually like that.
Clear winter days, that's what we're aiming for.
Yeah, clear winter days when you're outside and you're like breathing is like very fresh air.
Yes.
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For you this morning, a clear winter mind.
No clouds in the sky, just peace and serenity.
A flock of geese fly over in a v-formation,
reminding you of teamwork and how important it is that you find yourself supported as part of the team.
Now breathe in through your mouth, out through your nose. Think about nothing and death.
Good old death. We love it here at Echo. There's a lot of it happening as we make it.
Unfortunately not for Queen Antrack anytime soon apparently.
I mean, or fortunately for her, if you're her, I don't think she wants to die, you know?
Have you ever thought about that? Have you ever thought about the fact that perhaps these creatures want to live?
There's no diplomacy option.
I actually did think about this, because I'm actually a little bit...
Okay, so I'm not a Queen Ancerok fan, necessarily, but I'm an Accelotuff fan.
Okay, sure, I'm stuck.
And I would root for her if I could. I would help her out.
You can.
I... It's difficult.
You can go into pugs and just deliberately, like, rescue people off the platform,
swap routes to people the problem is I also want items so it's a little bit of a
weird relationship with the game right now I want to kill the creatures to get
items because I want to be powerful then at the same time I know that when I'm
doing that I'm not helping sell tough you can be more like Cavesa where she
infiltrated did get a lot of items because you can loot them but she's
also kind of she's not helping Cavesa but she's helping someone so if you
You could kill a new barash of cars, then you can be the new blocker, you know?
Yeah, unfortunately they share health. Otherwise it would be great if I could just kill one.
Yeah, which one would you kill?
I have to figure out a way to kill only one.
I would have to listen to their arguments first to make a decision,
because I don't know what their thinking, what their plans are,
what their goals are, their political views.
But we can sit down and have an argument, listen to both sides, and then...
You could just have a discussion before you have the argument, if you wanted to.
You don't immediately have to go to the argument.
I mean, I can understand looking at them, but it's probably going to be an argument.
But you're welcome to have the discussion first, if you want.
I'm going to have a discussion first, though.
You're very reasonable. I appreciate that about you. That is great.
All the meditation we've done this morning has really centered me.
And we do have a flashback to yesterday, though, with our South Forge flashback.
So let's have a look at that before we move on to hopefully some answer examples.
Just three words, three devastating words. Beans and milk.
No, no, don't put that out there. Wait, peas? No.
Not quite peas, not quite beans, but something special in between.
Wait, I didn't-
It's one of the hardest things to say with a straight face in medical school. I think you have a Q-turn gyna.
Oh, she's actually there.
Oh, she's coming.
Goodbye!
Ha ha ha!
But we saw face 2!
That's definitely what we wanted to see!
Well done!
So horde bias, they can't even make Jaina one shot you with her.
I see beams, because the Alliance of Wizards.
the bottom Christian screen is just above the health bar we're back to Jinji top right it's
where we're looking to Mini now just above where Queen Answer X helps but you can see a couple of
abilities but then also on the left and then on Canix's screen I have no idea where I'm looking
right now well done excellent progress Mini off of that first part do you fuck a work god
does it bother you that ok mate died to a level six pig and probably can't do
How far is that?
Why are you outing me, Mike?
There are a lot of beans and stuff.
Tsuki beans, Nassasi beans, Gravanto beans,
Spour beans, and beans.
Gigante beans, Great Northern beans,
Suki beans, Long beans, Mung beans,
Pinter beans.
I thought you'd be the bean expert.
Why?
Yeah, from the land of the beans.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, Rina's with you.
That's my amazing ritual.
I've injected it into Jesse now.
We know boys
How much do you like children?
Good thing is perfective has the vibe check the correct answer that was huh
Here come the trampolines and
And we're gonna shut up as you can tell click your fingers there, faggot.
What?
Oh, I thought we lose some more players here.
No!
Let's try to get over it.
We've been there. Let's try there.
Towards Samsony to make sure they throw balls and they're not.
Four balls?
One.
Four balls.
Wow, okay, this is a scary thing.
I've never seen that before.
That was amazing.
What just happened, by the way?
That was so good.
That was the most extraordinary fall we have seen
In months, not to say in 47!
No, incredible.
Whoa!
Sailor Inter remedied!
Oh, hhh!
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This is hilarious, right?
I just heard that, I was like, what's happening?
Yeah.
Cool vibes on a Friday morning.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Howdy.
But now that we're back in the right,
you can see there's 20 people in there and on course.
DOE farming time, guys.
There's two mobs here.
30 minutes later, they'll respawn.
You never know.
How will you take your face?
Go do some heroic splits, lads.
Let's go!
Kadex needs more gear!
No!
I mean, now his Paladin actually does need more gear.
I wonder if he did stay up a bit longer or woke up earlier.
Maybe do some in-plus.
Maybe people helped him out.
But yeah, he definitely is lacking some gear
because they didn't think that they're going to need that Paladin,
but of course, freedom being so good in phase one.
But yeah, let's recap a little bit what happened overnight
because of course, we have been sleeping.
So had the players as well, some of the players, most of the players, some people of course, have been awake to figure out strategies for the last phase.
But while we were asleep, the Liquid of course was awake with the different time zones and they've been pooling the boss.
They're now up to 234 pools in total and they got the boss to 35.4% in phase 3.
And we've gotten some more information. I watched their pools a little bit before I came on.
and we did see that there's gonna be 5 eclipses in the last phase
yeah, 3, 4, 5
and I'm not sure how you survived that
because you did the maps yesterday
you have 3 folks go through drop their debuffs
they can't pick up another debuff
for 4 minutes right, just to explain
so if you pick up an eclipses
so each eclipses drops an essence
yes
after you kill them
and these essences, they
whenever this ring comes out
where you have to use the portal
to survive the ring
or you blink over it or whatever
these essences they cannot touch the ring otherwise you wipe and these essences are mythic don't appear
so you have three acolytes first which drop three essences those three essences have to be picked
up by players those three players cannot pick up essences anymore if they're justified then the
next wave of acolytes spawns it's four acolytes now they die they drop four essences plus the
three from the previous one plus the three people that have a deal of already so then three
7 new people have to pick it up
So that's not a second ring and now you have 10 people with the diva
Now the next wave is five
Now we have a problem. Yeah, because we have 12 pick up and 10 with the diva
Stripes gonna sub in
Yeah, some people that talked about immune ing it and like maybe immune in the yeah
I think you can immune like the damage that it does to you and then taking it through and then dying immediately afterwards
But I'm not smart enough to work this out, you know.
Some people said maybe the tanks can pick it up and survive the damage.
Maybe, I haven't looked at exactly how much the damage was.
It's 4,000.
4,000? Actually, it's 1,000%.
Oh, 1,000%. Okay, yeah.
Because if it's just 4,000 damage, I think anyone can tank that.
1,000% more. Remember when we checked?
1,000% more damage.
I mean, maybe a tank with good DRs.
I don't know. I mean if it's immutable.
If it's immutable.
Because apart from that it feels like 5 acolytes is just the heart of mage.
Because like how do you take them through?
But then how is it the heart of mage when we still have at least 30-40% of the boss left to kill at that point?
Yeah and then you also have to remember that if a person with the essence goes through the portal it closes the portal.
So like...
If 20 people have an essence,
have to like all go through the portal simultaneously which is very difficult
it is very difficult so if you don't make it you don't make it and that's your
fault should we click the portal quicker you know yeah it's gonna be really
tricky one I'm looking forward to getting some p3 progress again from Echo today
obviously you know probably if the boss starts looking like it can die it's
very possible they extend tonight and we have a late one if it's still
looking at like we're at 20% we're not quite sure what we're doing. Oh, look at that, 620. Still a
little bit behind compared to the others but it's not too bad anymore. I mean he's got...
I mean it's fine. It's still five item level behind where he wants to be. Yes. Yeah it's okay
and that's what's bringing Echo's overall eye level down because obviously liquid slightly ahead
at the 625.3 push is bringing it up on the other side because he has a 628
rogue right now. He's got double daggers off Kvesa so he's very very happy and if he doesn't top the
damage meter we must complain because how are you not going to top in the damage meter push?
You have the highest high level not in the world I think fired up is slightly higher than him
but close to it close to it. Yeah so we it is a thousand percent for four minutes that
they take increased damage off the essence so just to check also the essence leaves a
deep a dot behind 15 seconds of course when we talked about immunities there is
no immunity the last 15 seconds so you can mean the first half yeah you can
a little bit of it then die afterwards or you mean a little bit of it and then
mitigate the rest like for example with like now could maybe bubble start and
then somehow like survive dot for a little while we'll see it is interesting
that it's 22, right? Like, it's only two people that have to pick it up with a
leave up, which would indicate, okay, that's a tank drop, right? So yeah, I
mean, that would make sense. But I just want to say that this boss seems
incredibly difficult in last phase. Like, people yesterday have been saying, Oh,
like, especially I was surprised that perfecto was sitting here and he's
like, Oh, I think it looks kind of simple. We can do this. Like, the
boss has no help. And I was just like, really, getting in there with the
boss at 60% HP and you have all of these mechanics.
Because now, when I talk to other people, there's a lot of people that think that the boss is
actually, like, has too much health and you won't be able to get through all of it.
Well, until someone gets below 30%, it's mythic phase of 30%.
Until someone gets below that, it's 25%, it's 20%, then 15%, then 10%.
And then eventually we'll realize you just have to kill Greenhander.
all you have to do is just get the boss HP to zero without any shenanigans.
Have they ever done hidden damage amps?
No.
No?
Yeah, like usually, because a lot of people are saying, there's no way this boss has to
go to zero or there's no way there's nothing special happening.
But it would be weird if the boss dies early.
Yeah, I agree.
But I was wondering if there was like, maybe there's a specific overlap or something
that they're not doing, that would increase their damage or they're not seeing.
Yeah, that would be like a special mythic mechanic which it could be that there is something
that oh once you get all 20, once all, yeah, everyone does 10% increase damage or something,
I don't know.
It is possible.
I'm just reaching it straws, I'll be honest, I'm trying to pick, it's like Europe at
world's just trying to find any way that we can get a win you know yeah I mean yeah it's very strange
because of course we also don't want blizzard to nerf bosses right and I'm not saying that they have
to we have to see more debates before we can make any kind of judgments but of course bosses have
been nerfed in the past at blizzard during the whistle first the very end the main reason
for nerfs happening on the last boss is usually because they don't want the boss to die around
reset time, right? They don't want to have any guilt at the reset, get the gear, and then
just kill a boss. Because then obviously you wouldn't stand a chance because they don't
have that extra gear, they don't have access to it. So if we near the end of the ID and
the boss is still not going down or not close to going down, then this is like
Maybe we nerfed their boss HP for a little bit.
Yeah, but we're still looking at quite a lot of it.
Yeah, that's the problem.
Yeah, 35% on Liquid after they had the extra day-ish, you know, the extra time to practice it.
They were looking very good until they got to phase 3, and then it was looking incredibly sketchy on that pool.
It becomes just so difficult, especially with the shackles overlaps and the blades.
Like you don't just get two shackles anymore, you get three, then you get four,
then we assume you get five as well. Yeah that's the thing right because we're talking about
the boss HP being so high and like not sure how they're gonna kill him but it's not just that
it's also the mechanics seem incredibly difficult so even if they manage to get through the mechanics
which seems super super super hard then the boss is still only in like like 25% if even you know
I was like hmm interesting. Not sure what we're going to do here. We'll just try and work it out.
But it is only Friday. By the way, happy Friday everyone. Objectively the best day of the week
of course. Saturday. Yeah, no. I can't believe you say that Nogura. I can't believe it. No, Friday
like every week Friday is the best day of the week. To me, Friday is like the middle of my
working week usually because my working week is Wednesday Monday okay so I get
Tuesday off and Friday is flexible you don't your Friday doesn't have to be the
actual Friday so you think your day off your day before your day if it's only
one day off then the day before small Friday if you have two days off it's
normal Friday and if it's the day before like a vacation a long time off
then it's Big Friday. Okay. I only ever really have small Fridays then. Yeah. Today's your
small Friday then. Yeah. Although tomorrow's just spent working as well. So it's not, yeah.
So it's not Friday at all for you? No. Tell us about Friday for me? Yeah. When was your
last Friday? Long time ago. I don't want to talk about it. They don't really appear
that much. Where are these Fridays people have been talking about? Yeah. Anyway, anyone
is watching and has a big small or normal Friday today. Congratulations. Yeah, Friday
of course still some days left for the reset. So we'll see. We all can really tell is from
when they start pulling. It's like, have they have echo brought up something new? Is there
something that we're not seeing about these debuffs? What are we calling them? Essences?
Essences are nice, yeah. Something new about these essences that's been worked out overnight,
well we see somehow Echo just get down to like a 20%er. Like if you get through that
phase, obviously there's still a lot of discovery to do, but if you can get through it, you can't
start putting damage into the boss. Ansurek is, she's relatively squishy generally, I know she
has a lot of health in terms of percentage, but it's only 7 billion in total, which is like,
Yeah, it's not a lot of overall health, it's just that you cannot attack her sometimes, like this too.
Yeah, in phase 3 there's all of these adds that are spotting, so if this was like a princess kind of
it's a fight where it's just one boss, nothing else, and you can always attack them, it's not that much.
But unfortunately there's points in a fight where you don't really want to focus damage on her,
or she's literally just not there, she's like, ah, I'm out of here.
Maybe that's the way to follow her up her web.
Did they think about this?
Have you used the mining tool daily where you have to climb up the boss?
Oh, a little bit, yeah.
Maybe it's something like that where that guy comes in.
If you've done enough of those dailies, he comes in and you can grab on to Antrex side
just to follow up.
That would be so funny.
They all have to go up and level their climbing and get all of these special items that
you can get for it.
This is the boss design I bring to Blizzard.
Hire me.
You have to have done it to get with a BLE farming, right?
It's climbing farming.
Yeah, and you have to fight her like little spider pets, so you have to do a pet battle.
Yep.
You have to climb up and then pet battle.
Have you done a pet battle?
I've done one and I hate them, but it's so fast.
Apparently the strategy, there's a specific comp you can run all level one.
Yeah, absolutely level one.
Yeah.
But your highest level that you take into the battle will be the level of all the
other pets in the battle.
Exactly.
level one. I know how to min max it. I just have never done it.
You know, yeah, it's it's I don't like all of these like mini
games that they put into the game. Um well, actually, I don't
hate all of them. But yeah, there's a bunch of mini games
like the Pet Battles, PvP, stuff like that. PvP's a mini game.
Anyway, there's an AWC team somewhere very angry at you
right now. It's AWC. It's like it was up. It does. It
Does it start today? I thought it was Friday. Is it Saturday? Oh, NA today. So later, yeah, it'll be tomorrow for us.
It's a little bit of a meme because I'm not sure if it started with Mplus being called a minigame or PvP, but one of those things.
I mean, everything compared to Rage is a minigame, right? Rage is the only Maxi game.
True. If you think about it that way, yeah.
You could say open world RPG or it's the only max game.
Anyone not RPGing in the open world is failing Blizzard as a gamer.
Have you been to Goldshire?
No, I have no idea where that is, is that where the Hobbits are from?
You don't know, you don't know.
You should check it out though.
Whenever someone says you should check out this basement, I'm generally quite cautious.
It should be.
Really?
It is quite interesting down there.
I'm even more cautious. There are enough basements in Berlin. I've been close to a few of them like no, thanks
It's a climbing gym. That should be
I believe we didn't have this as a donation goal
Going on an RP server to Gold Shire basement. That is actually that's great
That's a great goal for the future though
No, do that as the next race to world first because I'm likely not gonna be here so I can just watch
People be embarrassed
All of the chat battles would just be blacked out
Is that like the Burkhaen equivalent in
What is that? Oh Burkhaen. It's a really famous club in Berlin. Oh very exclusive lots of like
BDSM stuff
That's just like the very like
So it's RP servers like people actually are either right and in Goldshire. That's just where they need to do
things no one playing you gear wants to speak about other stuff is there a card
game in water walker can you play hearthstone in water walker I mean there's
like this hearthstone toy which I think like what you put it that is actually a
hearthstone board that comes up but you don't actually play it it's just like
some they shouldn't introduce that I think I would spend more time playing
I don't spend a lot of time playing my magic, but I play it in WoW.
It's like actual Hearthstone in WoW. It opens up like a smaller screen.
I summon Bran, and it's like he's a big Bran, you know?
That would be really funny.
I do like the puzzle games that you put into WoW though, like the lay lines,
and you have to click on them, and the orbs turn in a different colour,
whatever you see in some of them.
Yeah, the ones in Delves.
Yeah, they're in Delves, and they have them as world quests,
like stuff like that I was just randomly for like to open a chest or whatever in the world.
That was fun. I don't like the pipe one, the one where you have to do things around. For some
reason my brain just never gets those. I can do the lay lines in the orb songs pretty easily,
but the pipe one my brain just it doesn't compute. Also sometimes I press one and I might
it should go this way and then it doesn't go the way I want it to and it makes me sad.
I get it. At the same thing. Like this doesn't make sense. Why does it go... I don't
I wanted to go the other way.
Exactly. It's very frustrating.
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There was actually, like some time ago,
at the Tunnel Palace some years ago,
there was a world quest,
where you actually had to do world quests for player power.
And one of the world quests was a,
like a puzzle where,
it's like, I think it's called,
like the jewels where you have like different colored
gems, icons, gems, and when you click on them,
there's at least three, they get consumed,
and the other ones like fall down.
And the puzzle was to get five in a row, or six was it?
Like six to the same colors in a row,
and it was actually kind of difficult.
And people weren't able to do it.
So there was, you saw like so many people standing there
because when you played a game,
your character just stands still, right?
and then it opens up and he walk up through world quest and there's just like
thousands
Saddie there and he keeps they can't do it. I just just keeps going. It's like hours late. It's like
Then they had to nerf it. Wow
That's why I like Dragon Voting because you can choose the advanced course if you want to do the simple one
Do the simple one leaving me that I will do the hard one. Thank you very much
I would love that for for these quizzes as well for these puzzles
I would love to have like a hard mode, but sometimes it's kind of easy, you know.
And you just get like a couple more Valor stones if you do the hard one.
Yeah.
You don't need like a much bigger boss.
I did nothing, I don't care, I just want the hard one.
Nah, I want a slightly bigger boss.
I just...
Because otherwise, my brain will just go, why are you doing the hard one?
Just to the easy one.
What if you just get like a message in the chat that says,
you're great, you're much better than me?
Would that be enough?
No, that wouldn't be enough.
I need Tangible rewards.
I can't.
Even if it's something very small, like a Resonance crystal.
Just one. That's all I need.
Have you got anything with your residence crystals yet?
Apart from the... whatever the gear that you could get to start with?
No, I don't even know what to do.
You can get mounts with them.
Oh yeah, I'm not a like... collector of literally anything other than player power.
Okay.
I'm kinda... I don't know what to...
I never really care for mounts and for pets.
I to me like what I didn't understand is why people collect amounts that are not pretty
I guess they're all pretty in their unique way
Yeah, I disagree
Okay, well that's a lie
So I saw all these amounts like why would I want it? It's not pretty and
Same with like other stuff like collectibles and with transmogs
I'm like I have this one transmog that I farmed like five years ago, and it's nice
Why would I have a different one?
Well because you can get the Sylvanas one now
Well, this is the slavannas one pretty I don't know.
Can we bring up the slavannas tambock please producers?
The one from the vendor, what's it called?
Trade thing.
That one you don't have to farm for, but it is very pretty.
And can we get Alunera up please? It's a mount.
That one. See if you don't find this mount pretty, this is the mount I farm for.
Where I was prepping for world first.
I farm this mount and it is probably the prettiest mount.
Also the B-Mount is very cute.
You can farm for that as well.
Have you not got the B-Mount yet?
I don't think so.
You only need 900 nexer things.
I'm not doing it.
The B-Farm people do anyway because often it's part of a world quest.
And you can B-Farm to get Alineira.
You don't do any world quests?
How do you complete your Asuka Hex weekly?
I don't do my Asuka Hex weekly.
That gets you player power!
It doesn't.
and you can get a bit of gear.
What do you think about Westerns and Mplus?
I mean you can, but you say you do only things that are not always, but yes.
And you can get them out from it, which is powerful for your motivation for the other game.
I don't know. I can't believe you do no world quests.
Well, before the raid came out, but now that Mplus is available, it's just not...
It doesn't give you more than if you would spend your time playing Mplus instead.
But you can do world quests while you queue for Mplus.
That is true. I will be able to do a lot of world quests before I get invited to a queue.
Yeah, so why don't you just do walk us because I'd rather just afk in the main city and complain about not getting invited into keys
We'll be like hey stream anyone here got a plus 27
Alineira for me. Oh, that's the savannas
trans book
You don't like that you look like so varnas. I guess I mean if you're not like a hunter
It's kind of like I do love so varnas. I mean she's great
I did replace her a little bit now with Salatath, like she was my favorite before.
So if there was a Salatath transmog, would you farm it?
I would probably farm that.
This is why I want it.
It's just like so cool, you know.
Although I have these really cool shoulders at the moment on my drak there that have like this blue fire that comes off them.
That is true. I love when there's animations.
I didn't farm those though, that's just what I equipped as this item.
I sometimes do this thing where you know when there's a new patch coming out or a new expansion
I of course you replace a lot of your items and all of us like at some point
I'll have all these new items that they don't fit together at all you care that looks like shit
This is the mount by the way.
That's a pretty mount though.
It's very pretty.
Yeah, I like it. It's pretty.
More than you can farm it.
You just need 10 crackling shots.
The problem is also that I'm a druid, so I have flight form, right?
Which I can just go into...
So boring!
So much faster!
I can become a raven!
No, it's not because it's pretty.
It's because I don't do it for class immersion,
where I'm like,
Oh my birds in the flying rock. It's because it's instant. Like you press it and you're in it. You don't have a cast time, you know
It's just so much more convenient. Have you thought about not being a druid?
I mean I do play my warlock once in a while. Nagini is doing great. Yeah, you could have a little amount. Yeah, for Nagini I could
Yeah, this is my will be great. Yeah, great.
Why did you call your second character Nagini?
Well, because it's a warlock
It casts Agony
Ah, that's smart, that's smart.
So do you name, if you were to make another alt, would you name it after an ability that
they cast?
If it would make sense with my name.
You have Neko, is your preservoka, because they cast Neko.
Or if there's a vampire, that could also be Neko.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Very good.
I'm going to consult you whenever I do make an alt and probably around 10 years.
Yep, and I also don't know any of the other ability names apart from President Kesson.
You have Nemrull Anomaly!
Nemrulled Communion!
That's a great name!
Macy's!
She sounds like a link.
It's like Stasis.
Right?
Yeah.
Did that sound rude?
I didn't intend it to in any way.
No.
Sam said what and I feel like I said something
conscious of the line that I intended to but, anyway.
We shouldn't try and get out because we're further
we try and get down that.
It's the same thing like when people donate.
Naysay switches are League of Legends.
Hey, they waited for the mob to respawn!
BOE!
BOE!
BOE!
BOE!
But it did never kill them, I'm not sure.
No, there's two dead in the middle.
Oh, they're not queens guys.
Yeah, maybe flavor this I don't know. Why would they be dead here?
Okay, let's talk about the lore
Ressa and Queens guard guess on so I assume they are
Katie Threadmasters also why they are here. I thought that the Silicon cord was the like second hand to
the queen but now there's two more queens guards oh so there's just like lowly guards
yeah they're just guards again they guess but how did the enemies get so close what did
the Silicon Corps do well they may be fighting each other yeah let everyone go through all
the way up to the boss basically it looks like they're weavers and such right so maybe
they came in and were like hey we have these wonderful bits of yarn to show to the
queen and then they showed them to the queen and the queen was like, bad guy. Not good enough.
Or they tried to assassinate her or something. There must be lore here. I'm sure Nobble has done
a great video on it, but I don't know any of it. Yeah. What do you think about a lore?
Would you be a lore person? I like lore, but I don't want to dive really deep into the lore.
So I really like the idea that Kevesa is talking to someone else, but I'm not
so invested in it that I need to find out who that other person is.
Okay, yeah. You know? I like the fact that T'Kaj and Anubhavash are fighting each other.
I think that's ads lore and then the fact they use their abilities against each other is cool,
but I don't need to know what the backstory of them fighting each other is.
Yeah, okay. I think lore adds a good dimension, but I'm not someone that needs to find out
stuff outside of what I can just find in the game naturally.
Yeah, that makes sense. So you buy like a book or whatever?
Yeah, Leeg's had a book for a while called Ruination, which is apparently very good, but I don't really... I'm reddit, you know?
Okay.
Maybe I just don't want to read that.
It's interesting because I've never been into WoW lore at all, or in other games the most.
Yeah, because it doesn't increase your item level.
Exactly.
It's understandable.
Yeah.
But then, at some point, people got very upset.
They thought I'm trolling because there's like a cutscene or whatever, and I watched it on stream, and there's like a really famous character,
I just didn't know who it is or it's like I was like who is which is fine
You know, it's like who is this person? They're like oh, it's it's and when and I'm like who's that?
like genuinely not knowing and
Everyone thought I'm surely like you truly right? They're like no
I think I'm so angry with me like literally like they were actually angry about it
It's like well, I guess I'm gonna like read into Laura a little bit
So I tried to like catch up with the Laura bit, but I got bored because I mean there's a reason why I don't know
the lore, because I'm just not interested, right? But then I came across some of these
content creator videos about the lore, and I think, I think it was Talism that did a video about
like some cutscene, and it was so interesting to me how he made this like 20 minute video about
like a 20 second cutscene, and then he had all of these like theories like, because this and
that happened, maybe she was standing behind there because and then like all of these,
And I was like, wow, you can read all of that from those tiny seconds.
And I thought that was interesting.
Now I would never be able to know that much on the Lord.
And I'm also not interested to go and do the research now.
But I still like thought, okay, it's a cool thing that there are people
that know so much and they can dissect like very small like things
and just have all of these like a very creative ideas on why this
maybe happened and like on what could happen in the future.
I thought it was interesting.
it is very cool and I think like it's about where you invest your time and your knowledge right
for example I could show you an M plus key and you could be like oh they move this way specifically
to avoid this thing and to do this thing right and that's where your knowledge is whereas for them
their knowledge is based on the law like TV Skyon does some really good animation and law breakdowns
for League and I really enjoyed their videos but I'm not going to sit there and be like oh now
I know this I can extrapolate to the end of the degree this thing yeah it's just not where
It would be very funny though if you would start doing that on like a worlds game.
In the middle of a worlds game.
Did you know?
Every now and again if the game is slow we'll be like, ah did you know the lore behind Nautilus?
Oh really?
Usually it's a 30 second long snippet that's wrong.
Most of the time we just, I just kind of make it up as I go along.
As you can tell from what we've been doing here.
It's just vibes.
Is that loop beneath them?
actually oh no yet those I've seen these things in raids you can click them and
then they need like some sort of profession level 25 to be able to use
them and I still don't know what it does wait it's the monthly tithe left to
Queen Anubarash Anubarash by the by the weavers guild you can see a gem in the
top underneath that the skeins that were spun by the car's softly prevent
scratches on the chest that were originally presented to her by Anubarash when he joined
the court 57 years ago. Sad because the lifespan of the average Neroobian is actually only
72 years. So he's been in that court for 92% of his life.
Oh no. And he's going to be over soon.
Yeah.
His mother was the great, great, great, great aunt of Anubarash's, of Antarex's
mother.
Oh no, and that makes sense why they're fighting now, because of course, Anzurek did kill her mother, which means that Anbarash is probably not too happy about that one.
Probably didn't have a certain talk about that afterwards.
And Takahj keeps reminding him of that, and he's like, no, I'm loyal to Queen Anzurek, I'm Takahj, you're pissing me off now, it's time to fight.
That's exactly what happened in the lore.
Yeah, that is exactly what happened.
I don't know why we showed up at eight o'clock.
Because obviously they're not going to start the raid until nine.
They need to talk about things.
Well, it's interesting because yesterday we had the last ship yesterday.
Jesse was the Nala's best friend.
Perfecto and Preach were casting with me.
And I think a bit after ten they stopped the raid.
And they said that they will come in here and start running at seven a.m.
And then I talked to production, it's like, oh should we come in at seven or my aunt is like, no, we're going to start at eight.
We're just going to do some comps for like that hour.
And then I came in here today and I saw the Raiders downstairs having breakfast.
It's like, oh, what's going on?
Yeah, I think we should start a riot.
Yeah, follow my heart.
Can I make another coffee?
Speaking of riot.
Am I allowed to make another coffee?
I would actually make a coffee and come back.
I wouldn't mind the second coffee myself.
yourself. Yeah, well, we have to end our meditation first.
Okay, you lead the last meditation. Deep breath in through your mouth for five seconds.
One, two, three, four, five, and out through your nose for seven seconds. You are valid.
You are wanted. Have a big, a small, or a medium-sized rider. We'll be right back.
Welcome back to the race of world first also known as the pit stop before world first as the raiders are still waiting to get on in I see Roger
Like dissecting the fight in front of them. I saw some liquid Vods up as well looking at that p3 progression
Skype has gone full dark side Anakin Skywalker just there ready to kill the spiders and but not just the
adult male spiders, but the women's spiders and the kids spiders as well all of the spiders ready
look at them it's funny because some time ago we were sitting downstairs having
lunch and at some point scribe is like oh there's a spider and we all like because
it's like a really big room like really tall high ceilings right like a loft
kind of thing and it's like there's a spider we all like looked far away to
the wall and thought it would be a huge spider and it was like tiny spider
and it was like in the air just like I don't know like on a spider web I guess
and it's like wow this is so amazing.
Phase 2.
You can identify a spider from 15 miles away now just get out of the binoculars.
Yes Arachnus Territarius. I can see it.
Venomous but not poisonous to us, so it's very easy to kill this off.
Yeah but obviously the raid is going through their PowerPoints and their
spreadsheets this morning, working out exactly how they want to approach things. The thing
about it is you don't want to get to P3 and be like, we don't have a plan. You want to
get there, know exactly what you're doing. Before that, P1, P2 seem relatively solved,
but likely moving Bloodlust into P3 might mean that we have some difficulties with
the shielded spiders in the second phase as we work our way up through those platforms.
So for now, we are in the same boat as everyone else waiting on Echo to pull.
I'm not sure if Liquid have gone to bed as well, I assume they have by now, it's midnight-ish?
Yeah, midnight would be like the latest, they leave I guess.
Sometimes they do go a little bit longer, they're pushing it, so...
He said 238 pulls earlier, right? So it's still a 238, so...
Yeah, as I guess I have not pulled anymore, they are asleep, okay.
So, I mean that's a little bit of a relief.
I do think at the end of the race, whenever you know that the other guild is asleep, it's like, oh, you know, like...
Take a breath, we can spend an hour doing spreadsheets, it's okay, we're not losing out.
And you say the end of the race, like, I don't know, I think there might be another reset coming.
Like, that would be crazy. Like, I do think that Blizzard wants this boss to die to speak, but
we don't know, right? We don't have that information, so it is technically possible
that once they want this boss to last in the next reset, which would be insane.
And I doubt it, it's very highly doubted, but yeah right now phase 3 of course looking very difficult
and it still requires a lot of pools to see like the end range even and then we'll see how high the boss is
because it's also a pretty big damage check as well. But yeah while we wait for the raiders to figure out
their strategy and talk everything through there are some donations that came in some still from
yesterday and some from today in the morning so shout outs to all the people donating so early
and of course supporting games for a law which is an amazing cause we do have a one dollar
nation binomous and it's still from yesterday they say given Emma's comments can we ask for
fact if he's secretly a skyman between ray tears I don't know what skyman is I also know what skyman
Oh, Sky TV engineer, apparently.
Oh, I see.
Okay, so basically it was Emma that donated yesterday, Preach's wife, and she said that
the boy next to Preach, as nice sneakers, and why wouldn't Preach ever wear those kind
of nice shoes?
Preach's fashion sense is weird.
He's got an interesting fashion sense.
Yeah, it's middle-aged man, very much middle-aged man.
I'm cut, yeah it's dad, dad, yeah, dad, yeah 100% just dad style, the thing is new balance is back in
style now, right for young, for Gen Z, so if he was just like full new balance, you know,
knee-high socks, ankle-high socks, yeah he's missing the knee-high socks, yeah, yeah, a lot of people,
a lot of people refuse to to go with the high sock trend because it was considered like an old
thing for a long time right, you know only, only ankle socks were a thing, even in the winter
people were running around with ankles looks like i'm called there's a bunch of those things
like middle parting is a millennial thing where a side parting is a young is it that way around i feel
is it the other way around side part of the millennial and middle is and that's why you
go through your middle part yeah actually i had a hard time changing it yeah i i mean i'm trying
very hard yeah i'm trying very much to be the cool aunt oh yeah that's my vibe as well you know
No kids of my own I've got a couple of I've got a niece and a nephew and it's just like I'm just there
I'm vibing you guys, you know when you come we just have fun
And I want to be the cool odd you know they they should come by whenever they want tips and how to like
You know
Okay, I'm
An onto twins
We do have more donations coming in $10 by CRM Finn they say let's go
Let's go! Thank you very much. All the money going to the game store, of course, an amazing charity.
We've talked about a bunch on the show, but they bring distraction therapy to children in hospitals.
They also have internship and scholarship programs for those children after they left the hospital.
Anyway, $25 by Mr. Sebeckwool. They say thanks for an awesome stream as well as
ThinkMedic for being an awesome caster. I hope to see you in the next race too,
first as well. I mean I hope to be here as well. It's very fortunate that schedule is
aligned for me to be here this time but hopefully we can make them align again.
Hopefully it's a good raid as well. I would like a pool next to it.
Then we have $10 by Jesper to say make sure to bring back Medic for next race he's great.
So kind of you, thank you. And then we have a $50 donation by Cancy and to say the
light shines upon Medic so nice. This is a sign Medic shouldn't leave and stay here forever.
Yeah, I wish, not forever, I'll be honest, like we've been here for two and a half weeks now, if we were here for heroic, it's draining.
I'm very sort of fortified by the stamina that the cast has had here.
Because usually League Worlds is a long process, but you're not on every day, right? I'm on one day in three.
So the other days, you kind of chill at home in your pyjamas, you watch the games, you write some notes, but then the rest of the time you're just relaxing.
relaxing. Here it's like every day you're in the studio, obviously the hotel is right
next door as well, so you don't really have a place to get away. It's the stamina required
to go on a race world versus immense.
It is interesting because you know, casting is not like the most physically intense job.
Right, we're not here.
I'd say league casting is quite physically intense.
I can see that.
If you're standing up the whole time and there's a lot of like, you know, I feel
tired of that but not like it you're not a builder or something yeah yeah yeah but
just like not being able to really like like sometimes I'm just like I want to
take a walk yeah outside just want to disconnect from everything even in the
classroom like we have a big TV showing the broadcast and every now and again
people come in after their cars and be like talking about world walker stuff
I started playing a lot of wow while I was here and now after after like a
week and a half of it I'm like I just want to play a game where I don't have to think about wow
like drill core or something. Did you start dreaming about wow or are you still dreaming about
league? I don't dream about anything I just clock out and have no dreams. Dreams are done now.
Two times dreams not allowed. We do have another five dollar nation by Sarah she says
hey medic looking forward to hearing a cast world all the best from Austria. Thank you very
Thank you very much Sarah.
Thank you very much.
And then we have a one-delination by Anonymous, is they can we get medic spots on one of these
losing to R7?
Spoilers for Worlds yesterday, 100 D's which is North American third seed lost to the late
League of Latin America first seed called Rainbow 7.
Is that not, it's a first seed versus, oh it's, okay I see what you're saying.
It would be like liquid and echo getting beaten by...
Well, our method would get beaten by third seed, right?
Yeah, but even that is like it would be like either Lekudo Echo getting beaten by one of the Chinese teams in this race.
It's possible but incredibly unlikely.
Okay, I see.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rainbow Seven, widely regarded as probably the worst team in Plains,
and the 100 Thieves are like North America, historically don't do incredibly well at Worlds, but they are at step above, right?
So they're already disappointing us on like the first day of Worlds.
Well in North America, if you want to say us, sure, I'm a European customer.
Us as like the Western teams is what I meant.
I think there'll be a lot of European fans that find a lot of joy in the fact that
100 Thieves lost, especially since historically the third seed from Europe or the fourth
seed sometimes called Mad Lions who are often like the team in Plains,
they've been knocked out in Plains before. Now 100 Thieves aren't knocked out yet,
But they lost to the worst team and Rainbow 7 have only or League of Last in America have only ever won one other best of series in international history and that was against Gam, which is a Vietnamese team.
I'm trying not to be the person that takes joy in other people's misery, but it was been a difficult show over the last day.
I'll be honest. I feel sorry for 100 Thieves, there's a lot of young players on that team, but for Rainbow 7 it is an incredible accomplishment and they should be very proud of themselves.
Then we have another set of combinations.
So hard! I don't want to be that guy because you're just punching down.
It's like, you know, it's like you have liquid loss and I'm just like, ha liquid stock, ha ha ha!
Like that's not who I am. I feel so overwhelmed with these.
I think they can bounce back. Rainbow 7 should be incredibly proud of what they've done
and I'm really happy for their fans.
So moving on, $10 for an animus. There's the medic. How do you rate the new world song?
Oh, so it's called Heavy is a Crown by Linkin Park. Linkin Park? Yes, that's there.
Is Linkin Park?
Linkin Park.
It is Linkin Park. Yes, I got a limb biscuit in my head for some reason.
I think it's an okay song. I give it like a 7 to an 8 out of 10 song-wise.
I think the music video is what most people are complaining about because there's a lot of Linkin Park in the music video and not as much World Story.
I see, okay.
I think my biggest thing with world songs is a lot of people have nostalgia for
legends never die and for rise because they were incredible songs and they
were like they defined what a league song should be in the same way
Linkin Park kind of defined what that style of music should be and now
people see their songs is generic because other bands have copied them but
they were kind of the band that did it originally right yeah there's also the
whole Chester thing where no one's ever gonna be Chester right and I
I think it's a good song. The music video I would have preferred to be the story of last worlds
I think that's where they fit in best rather than it being a hey people coming to challenge
But yeah, overall like it's solid
I would definitely listen to it outside of it being a world song
But I think there's always this thing you aspire to be like this
Je ne sais quoi like this special thing about a world song that it doesn't quite hit for me
Yeah, okay, I see but like gods is a good song as well
I didn't find it like very world-songy and then start walking is a great song. Yeah, but it's not very wealthy either
Right, that's it as you get bigger names in there. They're gonna have more of their influence on it, right?
Yeah, the one thing like the song for a cane
What's that called?
Warriors, no
You mean the Imagine Dragons song for Arcane?
Imagine Dragons song for Arcane, yeah
well
Whatever it's called. I like that song a lot and it was interesting because I thought it is very arcane and very leak
Yeah, but I
Also like when I heard it outside of the show enemy, I mean I still I
Still liked it a lot and other people like new to song just like that without being like a cameo like star walking
It's a similar thing a lot of people really like star walking as a song and don't know lead
And I think the problem is like all of these songs are really good songs
They don't have that same nostalgia feeling as Rise or whatever and that comes down to
the music video.
And I thought I really like the idea of the music video where everyone's coming to challenge
T1, it just didn't quite hit home for me in the same way that some of the other songs
did.
I think Ladesons Never Dies is a great example of an incredible song, relatively, well good
morning Mike.
Do you know the muffin man?
Oh, you're not head-setting?
Who comes from Jury Lane?
Oh my God! Wow!
She is the muffin man!
The pastry? Oh, that looks delicious!
Thank you!
I was very generous of you!
I'm not going to eat it! Oh, thank God!
Wow, that's crazy! That looks so delicious!
I just spilled coffee on myself!
Well, this shirt's going to be staying there.
We're living with that. That's fine.
What's the same, similar color?
Exactly, it just blends in like it's a little design.
Okay, well, and would you have a favor?
Well, I'm still thinking.
So we have two donuts here, and that's delicious.
We have two muffins, probably like a blueberry one.
I think it's blueberry and like a toffee.
Toffee, yeah, caramel, something like this.
Then we have, this is probably like some type of cinnamon roll.
This is a, what is this in English?
I don't know, it's like a roll as well.
The filling is like the other not English word. I don't know what this is filling was
It's like a black. Oh, maybe some people know in chat someone would know in chat. What is morn in English?
I'm gonna have to show you what I'm talking about
This one here. It's like a cinnamon roll
It's like a roll with like black in an icing coffee seeds coffee seeds. Oh
With poppy seeds you can fail a drug test. Oh, really? Yeah, that's interesting shows up as a
it's where the drugs are derived from right so we probably shouldn't eat this because it's gonna be in your teeth for like
and I'm flying and if they decide to drop test me right like doesn't happen often but you never know I am going to Berlin
I'm holding this up I think this one here looks very delicious and I kind of inclined to try this but I don't know what it is
and these are just probably some like I think that's a smoothie combo yeah I'm going for one of those I think
Okay, is this one is does this look like Apple is this well this looks red too, okay?
Well, I'll go I'll go for this red one
We do have napkins, but Preach decided to leave them over there by the camera
So the kind of screw don't really understand why he did that but thanks, okay?
I'm gonna let you eat first and then I'm talking
Well, I still decide when I think I'm going with this one. It looks very delicious
I thought lots of sugar glaze on top, which is of course that if you tune next to the Mac
microphones ASMR as well so it's new content for Echo. Thank you Sam. Okay so what is inside?
I haven't actually got to the inside. Okay so it's kind of it's some some red jam. It could be
many different kinds of fruits. Yeah this one looks delicious. I'm definitely gonna try this one.
Great sounds keep it up. I do appreciate it. There might be cinnamon in that.
But yeah I like this like pastry tradition. We do also have to take a group picture
before you leave as well is this a tradition where you have pastries on the last day it's no
like i kind of just randomly started bringing oh yeah you did yeah so i was like oh no cup says that
i should put my cup to the side so they want me to move it
there we go no worries this is great i like it all right all right um well yeah i do want to
to say while you're eating and you can't answer. I didn't want to say we all appreciate
you being here and so you should. I'm very, I'm actually, I was very, I was very much
looking forward to casting with you. I was very glad when I heard that you're on
board now and you're part of the casting team. And I'm incredibly impressed by
how you integrated into the team and how you ended up casting and how much
work and effort you put into researching so much about WoW. Not just like about
the bosses but you learn how to use Warcraft blocks for example which is I
mean it's not like a necessity to be a castor to understand how to do Warcraft
blocks right I thought that was really cool and that you really did all of your
research started playing a lot of wow yourself in your downtime looked at what
other people did look at the other broadcast tried to get as much
information as possible learned even stuff about the lore I thought that
was incredibly cool and I think you're invaluable as a castor and I'm
I'm so glad you were here.
Thank you very much. It means a lot.
It's been very easy to be part of the team, so obviously that comes down to everyone here at Echo,
and obviously all of the other casters. I've really enjoyed my time, and I'd love to come back again.
Now keep eating, because I won't eat as well, and we'll get some hearts in chat for Medic,
of course, unfortunately he does have to leave us very soon.
And I'm a little bit sad that you don't get to see the actual kill, and to be closer,
the race gets at the end that's like that's fine I'll watch you look at the
high moments but I do hope that you're gonna return again and you're gonna
experience the last final days and the final push because I do think that is
all that is what it's all about thank you very much
it's your mid-sec over why you you chomp down on oh yeah that would be great
give me chat give me chat chat and I gonna have a moment how we doing
chat how are we doing oh oh they're
getting ready for a poll maybe where's
kungan is a good question I don't know I
think you might be the mythic face I
think he has killed the boss already
yeah he's nine out of eight isn't he
nine out of eight at least bait in
two chat we're being baited we are
being baited it even popped up on the
screen someone's being are they all
gonna portal out but that's a summoning okay there we are nice little summoning I
don't really understand why it needs these horns and those weird chains on the
front like every warlock has the same do you need to be this edgy you don't need
to be this edgy just be a nice warlock right you made a peck with some sort of
demonic entity that's cool you can still be a nice guy you can still be
cool as a warlock they do uh yeah we seem so getting away about warlocks yeah we
talked about transmux earlier yeah and i'm so jealous of warlocks because they
i feel like they're the ones who get the coolest tears set every time okay almost every time
and they get these special effects where they have like wings coming out of their shoulders and
stuff wow this is way too cool i don't appreciate this i mean as a druid you get wings coming out
have your shoulders whenever you want. Once again, boomkin entitlement. You have wings.
You can flap them. No one else gets those wings. No one else gets a full body transformation
as part of their class. Like you can become a cat. I'm surprised about more furries who
are druids. I'm going to be honest. It's a bit of a weird one to me. I thought that
intersection would be a little bit more, a little bit closer. You can be a wide
owl. Can you get skins for those? I feel like you can probably get skins for those.
That would be cool. Where you could be like, instead of being an owl, you could be a penguin.
And just like, no, no! That would be great, right? And as a bear, you could be a polar bear.
You could have this whole like, polar themed...
And you can be a polar bear, actually. It's um, mage tower skin. It is not available anymore.
I mean, you can get a different color, but not the white polar bear anymore.
So you can't just go back to the mage tower and get it. It was like a limited time.
That's like I understand limited time stuff
As long as it comes back every now and again, that's fine for me as long as I get the opportunity to get it cuz like I
Apparently comes back every now and again
Okay, that's Sam not knowing that I think
There should be some distinction
But as a new player if I see something really cool in the game
I want to wait to farm that really cool. It's one of the things that does bug me is I can't just spam farm rates
Like from the past I have to wait a weekly lockout for each of the raids if I want to get the mount or whatever
Um, but I would like I don't mind there being a distinction for the I got this originally
I would just like to be able to get a polar bear skin
Yeah, because I don't want a gray polar bear. I want a white polar bear
So if you get the original one, maybe you can I know it shines in a certain way when you use a special
Ability right there is something to distinguish it for you
I do like understand what you're saying
But I feel like as soon as there's any like as soon as there's something that makes it different
then people are gonna say well but I want the same one.
I mean sure, but I think I...
Because there is? Okay so like for example with the polar bear?
Sure.
Because it's interesting because guardian druids have a bear form, right?
And this special skin make the form look different, like a different animation of it, right?
Usually it's just like a different colored bear, different this, different that,
but that was like in particular like a different like animation of the bear,
which is of course very extra.
And it was through the mage tower and then the mage tower was gone and people complained that it can't get anymore of course
And then I brought the mage tower back, but they said hey
You will get this new animation from the new mage tower, but it's a different color and it's cool
It was actually cooler looking than the old one because the old one was just like one color
That you could choose and the new one was like had like really cool like fell kind of like
tattoos right which kind of makes it look cooler in my opinion but people
still want the old one just from like because they can't get it probably and
I feel like that you can't solve. So can I still get the new animation? You can get the new animation.
Then that's fine. I have no problem with that. My problem is when people
complain that something should be permanently locked from new players.
Yeah. Right as long as it's it can be visually different but still
distinguishable as that thing, I'm fine. Yeah. Right? I mean it's the thing with League where like
they re-released old skins that hadn't been, they've been told they've been like locked out,
but they put like a different twist on them. So it'd be like oh a slightly different Chroma or
maybe you don't get one of the animations, with that I'm okay. Because it's, you should be
rewarded for being there at the start. There were like, there's certain League skins like
I think it's chrome ramus and black alistar are the skins that you could only get in beta.
Might be king ramus.
Oh, okay, interesting.
But yeah, there's a few that you just can't get anymore and they've been like, we're not
going to release them.
Now, they are bad skins because league skins were really bad at the start and didn't have
like cool animations and such, but they're exclusive and that's cool, right?
In the same way, you can't get the mythic, whatever the bird mount with the, from
the midra seal.
unless you clear mythic right I get that that's fine it is very interesting
because wow does have a lot of those things that are not obtainable anymore
and I do think it's partially like important that things like that exist
because it just increases the like if you know it's not going to be available
anymore it obviously is a good thing for blizzard because it like incentivizes
players to play the game it's like okay oh if I can only get this right now I
should get it right now right so it's like a tool for blizzard to say hey
guys you should play the game now but so if they bring it back at some point then
people feel like they were a scamp in the past I was like whoa like I
specifically played because I thought it's not gonna be available anymore and
now you just bring it back like what's the point of that point but I do
understand why if you started late and you couldn't have got that in the past
it really is annoying for you to can't get it anymore yeah I mean the
problem is when you when you advertise the original as a fear of
missing out sort of idea that's the problem right because then everyone's
like well you told me I had to do 200 hours of gameplay within this month
otherwise I wasn't gonna get it right and now I did that I paid my dues why
should other people get it right it becomes this whole whole thing. The most
interesting things to me about like things you can't get anymore is a very
very start of the game in vanilla. You could have like at level 40 you
would get a mount but it was only like a 60% like movement
movement speed increase and then at level 60 you would be able to get 100% and it was very costly
to pay a lot of gold when people wouldn't have it as soon as they reached 60 they had to go and farm
the gold and then get it and it was like this huge thing. Why do you farm gold? You can just buy
walk up there's Chinese feel you could buy it from anyway so but then the
mount looked the same the faster mount so the movement speed was tied to the
mount and not to your character so the mount that he had had this speed right
and the faster mounts look the exact same as the slower mounts they were
just faster and at some point a couple months later they decided to make the
faster mounts look cooler and they gave them armor and it was just like normal
muscle it was like a horse or a tiger or whatever and they gave they took that
mount and put some armor on it and then they said okay if you have a hundred
percent mount you can go and trade it in for free for the armored mount and
And of course everyone did that, except very few people did not.
And the people now that still have this old mount without the armor, it's probably their
rarest mounts.
Yeah, because everyone straights it in back then.
No one realized that this might be something that they can't obtain anymore.
Because of course the 60% mounts, we're looking like that.
It's just that the 100% mount without the armor is probably the rarest thing.
I'm not even sure if people are still having it all or if people care about it or whatever, but it's fine
I think that is very interesting. It's very interesting and it'll be in a drop soon anyway, so it's fine
Yeah, just get it from the drop for fives up gifts. Yeah on my stream right now
wait a second
If you're gonna sub you sub to medic cut now
sub to the echo stream obviously
Ads do run on the platform
It's to support echo into support the raiders throughout race the world first if you don't want to see ads
which aren't really controllable by Echo. They kind of just come up whenever Twitch wants them to come up.
You can Prime, you can Sub, you can buy Twitch Turbo, and you can see all of the pools today.
We see the feasts going down as well for the Raiders, so hopefully in short order, we will be pulling more.
I see, I think we have another donation.
Let me grab up the donations paper quickly before we get into pools.
Are your donations always welcome? Obviously, as the Raiders are pulling, it'll be harder to read them all out,
but we will get to them at some point during the race to world first all of the donations will be read out unless they say something
Lude or unless they say that I'm bad at my job because that will make me very sad
Zimilo donated five dollars to games 11 said good morning
I'm following both team liquid and echo and I'm not sure who I want to win
I think liquid deserves it, but NA get very kooky and I hate that
I think it's cocky, but echo is winning could be nice to see some change good luck to both teams anyway
I think
Whether or not liquid get cookie isn't really the important thing here
I think the important thing to know is the race world first is a full fun event that both these teams try really hard to win and
The enjoyment for me that from being on the outside most of the time has come from seeing two
Guilds with elite level raiders and with elite level tactics racing to see who can kill this first who ends up killing it is
is important in the long run obviously and it will go down in history, but the
more enjoyable aspect of the race is the race itself and seeing two guilds butt heads against each other and really push this game to its limits.
Yeah, and I mean no matter who wins, I think like the fact that it's so close
that's what we want as viewers and it's cast us, right?
Like we want the race to be as close as possible, so I am kind of rooting for both guilds to do well, right?
I don't want it to be super one-sided where one girl just like is far ahead and it's super like boring to watch
Yeah, so my like what I want is I'm rooting for my own enjoyment is basically what I'm saying
Screw the raiders. I want to have fun. I want to have fun. I know what the viewers to have fun
I care about you and I the raiders like
I mean, I want them to have fun as well
I think it has it seemed to be an enjoyable to right with Caves and group twice to putting up more of a challenge than was expected
With silkencourt being a difficult boss, but kind of a soul boss relatively early on
Maybe didn't give them as much of a challenge, but like the amount of joy
I saw on the Raiders faces yesterday when they got to p3 and they were like what the actual ever-loving hell is this?
That's where they live. That's where they love to be, right? I think it's where any
super competitive elite level athlete in the sense likes to be you want to be
challenged you want to be pushed you want to have to solve difficult problems and
we have a pool coming up in a girl yeah and it's so funny how they were like
laughing and having like enjoying it right I mean it was obviously more about
haha internally like dreads kind of laugh but still it was interesting
because them other people that are not as competitive they would see this like
and like throw in the towel be like no I'm not doing this but they
immediately the first reaction is like oh my god and then you can see like it's
bark this like competitive spirit in them I really want to solve this like we
can kill this one we can solve this or we want to and that is what it's really
cool like it it turns something on because of course there this is a very
interesting type of e-sport in comparison to other e-sports obviously
is a community-based event for fun tournaments, as I'm going to call it, like a mini-game.
It's not a mini-game, I'm just like, it's not a, like, a franchise e-sport or something.
It's like two guilds racing each other for the joy of racing each other.
Yeah. Which, what I'm trying to say is that the players, like if this was an official
kind of tournament or whatever, then all of these like, chores that they're doing,
they probably would be cut out, right, because they would just have like, normalized
skier and like some tournament realm or whatever they wouldn't have to do any
split rides and what not so and that is what they enjoy doing like that this
rating right all of the chores or whatever that's that's just something
they have to get through to get to this point and the fact that they have to do
all of this work to even like to get here to do then joy the part that
actually like is crazy me like they need so much competitive spirit and so
motivation to go through all of that just to get to this point where they
actually finally enjoy that part where it's really challenging right and that
is super cool to see and that first try coming in for today looking really good
so far why why not a word to say that there's no way they don't wipe down a
girl not a worry we're not jinxing because they're so strong will this
morning after this two hour talk they had there's no jinxing that can wipe them
from here. Oh definitely we just get them all out of the way boss is dead it's a
p3 pull at least the essences left behind will disappear somehow magically
they'll be sucked up by Kungun and he continues his push to 10 out of 8 on
the the mythic tier but having a clean pay was the one is obviously very
important you can see these bombs going down it's the four sac that they have to get through
avoid the blades first now get the knockup so that you can get away from that venom nova you
have to have all of these reactive toxins popping one second apart at least otherwise
you're wiping the raid and then you have to dodge away from all these orbs big raid damage
going to come from that trophy toxin dot that's on all of them then we move into intermission
one and we have had one rest but it's been pretty clean so far. I'm sorry you're a 7-year-old.
Not anymore. Actually no. No, Ryzen is that the rest will come up in 1 minute 30 so that means they're
gonna have to play without a healer which we've seen them do before but unfortunately Satsi also
goes down. That's gonna be it. They're not gonna be able to continue this unfortunately. Oh,
Ryzen is actually alive. Interesting. Maybe they had a combat rest and the overlay was just
Yeah, that is possible.
It does happen sometimes, especially when we're getting into the fights again.
That data tracking can be a little bit messy.
So it looks like now we've used that combat res.
Obviously still have the broadlass, likely moving that towards P3.
Canex was as well.
So he and Zazi will be viewing from the floor.
Good place to watch the toes.
We see these people going through the portals.
Then they have to get dispelled, move that little dot away from the portal
because it's going to leave that puddle on the floor of gloom as these avoid-speakers die.
They'll put behind these bombs that you can use to jump up to the next platform,
and then there are three platforms around the outside of the arena that have to be navigated
while at the same time having people going through those portals before the timer expires.
Otherwise the portals blow up and wipe that side of the rake.
Yeah, they do have good jobs, but our disciple needs to come through on Genji here.
unfortunately we do lose one more player as there was so much damage with the mirrors down as well now
this certainly does mean it's the end of this pool but to be able to get to phase two here on
their first pool very good sign so yeah i'm looking forward to some phase three pools immediately
and some consistency that's what we're looking for right we want to be consistent straight away
because obviously we're going to be pulling this balls all day today and consistency in phase one
incredibly important. Phase two, I think it's okay that we wipe here and there still and that we lose players here and there, but I think phase one, getting through that consistently or you know losing too many people there is something that we strive for immediately. And then phase two, still of course having to be refined a little bit because we didn't see that phase that many times. I mean, we saw it a lot, but not with everyone alive and not with like a fully flat shot strategy. So we're still kind of progressing on that phase two.
a little bit. Yeah, we'll quickly get through a couple of donations while they get ready for the
next pull. $10 from Anonymous saying, fantastic charity, fantastic castors, and always fun to watch
even if I'm not a wow player. That's what I was until I came this year. So I think there's a lot
of people out there who are watching who aren't really wow enthusiasts. Would love to see Medic again
in the next race of World First 2. And by the way, there's another race of World First coming
very soon at the ff 14 ultimate medic you're staying right um when is it is it off is after
november it's in november november 30th i can be there i don't play any final fantasy and echo
haven't asked me also i do have another gig on the 19th of december so it has to be less than 15
days it's 10 days maximum who knows maybe probably not i probably want to take a break
i'm gonna be honest i've been working from january sam is saying let's do the contract
right now we can negotiate the rate right now so my usual rate of two and a half
rich for sam's blood it seems. Caster91 also donated ten dollars and said just
wanted to see if you would read out something lewd or not none of that was lewd caster
also we know when you were born ha imagine putting 91 at the end oh i'm also 91
so am i once your birthday june february i'm older than you yeah yeah you look so much younger
so true uh anonymous donated ten dollars said medic you did a great job casting the race was a
pleasure to have you good luck at worlds also could you answer my dilemma when someone says stop i
never know if it's in the name of love or hammer time in the name of love hammer time or if
if I'm supposed to collaborate and listen.
But collaborate and stop.
What, stop in the name of, how's that tune go?
Stop in the name of love.
I would go collaborate and listen more often.
I'd stop, collaborate and listen.
Stop, hammer time.
No, I'd probably go collaborate and listen more often.
I'm gonna be honest.
Definitely hammer time.
Yeah, oh hammer time really.
It was, yeah, so I actually had it.
It was macroed in so paladin has like this execute kind of hammer
Yeah, the one that comes down from the sky. No, like in vanilla the way it works
I don't think they don't have it anymore, but he would like throw it
At 30% of lower you could just throw a hammer
and it would get magic damage
hammered wrath
and back then in vanilla you could play something called like a spell power
shock it in so it's like a Holy Paladin but you did a lot of damage with your
spells to other people I would like spell damage gear and I used to like do
do also whatever and I had the spell power set and I'm I yell into my hammer
of wrath where it would just say stop hammer time it is very embarrassing
Is this what macro people use as their macros?
I thought macros were like, oh, I can do this cool spell combination quicker than I should be able to.
It's like just macroing words.
Every time I'm going to macro in something on echo now.
When you sit down to eat the fees, the num num num.
Ah, no, mine's the oo-woo, what's this delicious food?
Um num num, ah, ara ara, it's so tasty.
Whenever someone says Arakara, I can't think of anything but Arakara.
That's what risks contractions, you know, when you do risk flexions in the gym?
Yeah, oh yeah.
That's what you're prepping for.
Another $10 from anonymous who says,
good luck in the race PS, you can't tell me all these donations piping Medicare
aren't him donating anonymously.
yeah you got me I've actually spent my entire day rate for this final day
giving money back to charity I mean is is a tax write-off and also the kids of
course yeah who are also a tax write-off kids I guess technically you can probably
save money in some way you don't know my account and Sam they live in
in Switzerland.
That's all made up.
So, we are discussing some stuff again.
I'm actually a little bit surprised by it because they did a pull and they did not reach the
last days and they decided to figure out something.
I mean, it's possible that there's a weaker issue.
Yeah, I saw a bunch of reloads happening, those force reloads that you can do.
Pastries, I feel like we have to move them away because I don't want them to eat
another one.
You're just going to eat more?
Jesse, do you want a pastry?
Yeah, sorry. I didn't mean to put your headset on.
I wasn't delivered. I was just thinking you could come over here and take them in, but by making you take them I also wanted to offer one to you because otherwise I'd just be asking you to come and clean up the set.
Would you like me to come clean up the set?
If you could, yeah, that would be great.
Yes please.
Just for now please, Jesse. Thank you.
Thank you so much Jesse.
I'm sorry, I was also offering you a pastry and then I didn't mean to put your headset on and...
Do you think I could eat them all?
Yes.
At $31,000!
Oh no!
That would be so funny.
It's like Karen can't come for the cast of pictures, she's on her seventh pastry.
I feel so wonderful.
And I would enjoy every second of it.
Those pastes were delicious, thank you so much Mike.
I will also say, I just said so, but I would eat, enjoy eating them myself.
I wouldn't enjoy watching you eat them.
That's some sort of weird much fun thing going on, obviously, obviously.
That would be the sexiest thing you've ever seen.
Let's be honest.
Me shoveling pastries into my mouth, just get some pickles and
venus in there as well.
Just gorgeing myself.
A two glutton.
It's funny because I know medic is obviously like, you're being
Yeah, erotic, whenever you're like, being so convinced of yourself, right?
No.
But sometimes...
I have crippling anxiety.
Same.
But sometimes when you read comments, like, compliments, or when you hear a compliment,
you're like, mm-hmm, yeah, yeah.
This person doesn't know me.
They're just being nice.
Yeah, but it's like this...
It's like the most obvious thing to use.
Like, yeah?
Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah.
I get covered all the time. It's just another day being medic, another day being awesome.
It's so tough though. It's tough being so great.
It really is. It's so hard. I have to go to my other job after this, where people like
me as well. Can people tell you how great you're doing as well? There?
His wallet's too small for his 50s and his diamond shoes are too tight. It's such a
That's why I have to wear these.
No, but like it's difficult, right?
Because I think a lot of people who are in front of camera
do have some sort of high level anxiety,
right? Like a very self-conscious about things.
So there are times when
like people are being incredibly kind today
and incredibly kind here at the base of the world first.
But I'll be like, okay, this person obviously doesn't know me.
They just don't know who I am
because they're saying nice things and that's just not true.
You know?
But yeah, it's great. I'm a horrible person.
I hate myself.
That's how I've been doing channel all along, yep.
There's a great comedian called James Acaster who did a comedy special called Cold Lasagna Hate Myself 1999
And it it just explores his the worst year of his life
And how how much he hates himself during it in such a comedic way and he's like he's managed to get through it now
But it's it's it was a revelation moment for me
Like kind of realizing that other people who I obviously he's much more in the public eye than we are right
But he's the other people that in the public. I have exactly the same thoughts as I have from time to time
Right, it's yeah, because when you see like this one of the biggest problems
I have a social media is
Everyone presents is perfect right you only see the positives and every now and again someone will be like hey guys
I'm really struggling and like even that like people will come and be like, oh you're amazing, etc, right?
But because everyone presents perfect and you're seeing hundreds of thousands of people present perfect as someone who is imperfect because we all are
You can evaluate yourself on this level that is just impossible to reach right like you evaluate yourself against 10 other content creators
And you're like I haven't done as much content as these 10 other content creators have it like well obviously you haven't you're one person and
They're only presenting their wins as well
Yeah, and you're like not saying oh I haven't done as much as this one other person
Like I haven't done as like because you only look at the best things the other people did and you combine it all
It's like oh my god. I should upload like 10 YouTube videos per day
I should be working two different shows simultaneously after I'm then casting this I should drive over and cast some other events or more else like yeah, okay
I'm sorry Sam ruined this really thought-provoking moment between us by saying when I swapped to the other camera it looks like Jesse's staring at the pastry
Look at this!
And it does kind of and that's a very funny moment Sam and I agree with you. However
Read the room Sam
It was good chaos
One more thing to say but now it doesn't fit anymore because now we're not in this mood anymore
And I don't want to say it but you can say quick. Okay really quick
So, you know, you know when you actually struggling and you want to like kind of talk about it
But then you feel like if you say it then people are gonna obviously encourage you with like positive comments
And then it feels like like people are going to think you just set this so we can get positive comments.
Which is not true, but it seems that way.
And you can't avoid getting positive comments.
You can't say, please, I don't want you to like say it positively.
They're still going to say it.
But it's like, yeah.
And people will be like, I'll just talk to your friends, close friends about it.
And all of us do, right?
All of us have built up support networks over the years.
Or try to.
Have tried to, right?
But then sometimes you do feel the need to like tell your audience at large why perhaps there haven't been so many streams
Or why perhaps there haven't been so many YouTube videos, right? And as soon as you do that
Yeah, exactly to realize the other people. Yeah, 100%
100%
There are plenty of support networks out there by the way
There are plenty of people that will help you if you are feeling like you are struggling or alone reaching out to people
It's the best way to help with that. I had a couple of years ago where I was really struggling and
and we're starting therapy, starting to reach out to people that help me a huge amount.
So let's get back into WoW. That was our, we had our morning meditation session.
Now we've had our morning that are evolving about how everyone struggles session.
And now we can talk about therapy lessons to this broadcast.
It is not therapy. Therapy is amazing and you should go to therapy even if you don't
think you should. You probably should because usually the people that don't think they should
are the people that can benefit the most from it. But now we are into P2, everyone's dead. Okay, back to
Psycho Analyzing Chat. Back to Analyzing Chat. Let's go. Okay, yeah, so unfortunately the time
I'm coming in, I do think we're gonna see some more polls happening back to back because they
did fix their week around so they should be able to get some practice in. But yeah,
how are y'all feeling today? I hope you're feeling great. It is indeed a Friday for many
people small friday big friday medium friday whatever it might be for us it's not a friday at all
i think for a lot of people out there they'll think it's a small friday but that is actually
a perfectly adequate friday okay that's the average sort of friday don't need to worry about that
don't have to feel bad if it's a small friday it's not a it's perfectly fine it does happen to
Every guy it's not a big deal
No, I someone said you should just go to the gym instead going to the gym exercising
Very good way to help your mood. It releases a lot of endorphins. It's really valuable to you
Eat like people will see it as this big you have to go to the gym thing when I was struggling a couple of years ago
I just started going on 20 minute walks and it was it was just a walk and
It's a such a good position getting yourself out of the place that you are struggling with as well can feel really intimidating
But if you're saying I'm just gonna walk five minutes down the road and five minutes back, it will start building up
even better if you can if there's like a park or if you live somewhere close to like a
Forest or whatever just nature in general
Apparently it's proven that even just like a small amount of time in like nature
Trees grass, whatever does increase your move heavily. Yeah, it's a thing
We don't really know exactly why but
chocolate
Chocolate does help. Chocolate does help.
With me without exercise, shit. I like the chocolate.
And you know what else helps?
He said the man that has been consistently exercising since February looks incredible and seems to be in a great place mentally as well.
I offered chocolate many times and you always said no, so...
Yeah, and I wish I hadn't.
Understandable.
But you're feeling great without the chocolate.
Yeah, this might bolster your mood.
There was a study a few years ago where they had people who consistently had poor moods, right?
poor relative to them obviously. And they would rate where they were on a mood scale of 1 to 10,
like 10 being I'm really, really struggling, one being I'm okay, nothing, nothing wrong's happening.
And they asked them their comfort foods. And then they put them in a control group or a test group.
And when they were below a five or above, they would give them their comfort food or they wouldn't
give them their comfort food. And within an hour, the mood increase would be the same whether
or not they'd eaten their comfort food or not. Like comfort foods are great, but you don't
need a comfort food for your mood to increase, your mood will increase anyway. Sometimes it's about
the habitual thing of, oh I need food to feel better. It isn't always applicable, but finding a
way to get yourself out of the situation that makes you feel bad is very helpful.
This is a pool. The thing is, when we started talking about the pool last time, they started
dying. This is true. So I think we just don't talk about it. I'm gonna talk about the pool.
okay here we go go on do it you want to curse the melody in the morning that's okay
I want to risk it for science as we do approach that the four bomb situation which is of course
the last bombs that we're getting in the space which is always the most difficult part in the
space there's many difficult parts of this space and many ways on how we can die but that quadra
bomb explosion very very hard right before the mission is going to come up in just a moment
after these weps coming through these daggers that are of course deadly get hit by them and
they're safe some sort of cheap death or immunity and there we go they're gonna be happening just a
moment everyone has to move towards the previous area of denial that they put on the floor while the
bombs are moving a little bit to the right and then we have to trigger those bombs in a staggered
fashion because on mythic you do get a debuff on everybody that makes you basically it forces
you to stagger to explode them in a staggered way there we go we have all
of the explosions coming through nice for stacks on everyone and in just a
moment they can explode in three two one let's see what is gonna be alive
Revis was really low they managed to survive they need to recover now from
that dodge is so much damage coming in but there we go looking pretty good so
far yeah that first yank about four million damage the second one gets up
to about 6 million, the third and the fourth increase in damage. Fourth is definitely lethal.
We have been getting through with only two Yanks so far, and on the cast of desk only
one Yank, with Jesse being here from Minnesota obviously. 30% left on that shield after the
second Yank, so we should be able to do it before that last rest comes in and then
we will move on to P2. We saw one person trapped in the Silken Tomb, that was my
Oh no, but they were freed just before they got hit with some blades the yank in one second
Oh
There was one percent left on the shield and one second before the yanker
They couldn't quite get the shield down before that final pull in
Learning here more yanks is a bad thing. Yep. That's what a Minnesota would say
Jesse's not from Minnesota by the way for some reason I've decided to keep this bit up the entire time I've been here
I don't know why
Missouri
Did you think it was from Minnesota as well?
Honestly, I don't know what it sounds like.
The middle states.
It's like Minnesota and Missouri is like...
If you would tell me one day that you're from Minnesota and the other day from Missouri, I would be like, yeah.
That's how I feel about all the literally irrelevant countries in Europe.
So it makes sense that you feel that way about...
Yeah.
It's like Italy, Sweden, same thing.
I mean that's more like Italy Sweden is more like saying someone's from Texas of New York, right?
Yeah, I guess I think people wouldn't Germany Austria. I guess yeah Germany Austria who cares, you know
I mean Austria is Germany's Canada, right? It's there, but nobody cares
Yeah
So early to offend so many people
That's a green
I don't know who we is, but that him and his family or them and their family probably
Is that what they're imaginary friends?
Wait, Mitch is from Canada? I thought he was American
Oh no, Mitch is from Canada
You have to be living in Turkey
I'm leaving today, I can upset the avocado however I want
As we do get into this poll, I quickly read another donation from JakeZD
He's from Canada, he's from Canada
He's from Canada, he's from Canada
As we do get into this poll I quickly read another donation from Jake Zgr says $10 says
I'll miss medic so much he's a cutest caster
I can't wait for you to return to the next race less than three
Thank you so much shake it's very kind of you to say and I will paypal you that $10 later on
We go into another poll. Have you seen anything interesting Jesse? Yeah, they're kind of dying in P1 P2
So it's nothing new. Yeah, I'm just looking at last night's stuff
Oh, okay. That's cool.
They, um, I don't know if I should say this, but the writers probably aren't listening, so I'm going to anyway.
They did do some testing last night in normal mode, doing some science, and I'm trying to figure out what they were sensing.
Interesting.
Interesting.
That's pretty cool.
Are the essences available in normal mode?
Do you get the acolytes essence?
I think they are, but they don't close the portal.
Yeah, okay, correct.
Maybe testing about like inbun, like immune or some sort of way to pick them back up
But they don't get left behind as well. They just disappear when you go through the portal. Yeah, that's only on only on mythic today
Linger and trying to find a way to not get the debuff when you pick it up. Maybe that's not gonna work
I mean you say it's not gonna work, but
They probably not the big thing right now is can tanks live through holding a
a second debuff while debuff and that's going to be very sketchy. It's a thousand percent increased
damage right? It's a thousand percent increased damage yeah. We're looking at something like
six million damage ticks. Yeah what I've seen for 15 seconds yeah. 15 seconds yeah. From what I've seen
liquid actually struggled a little bit with tanks surviving just like like apparently there's
a lot of damage in last phase on the tanks. There is yeah a lot of damage and it's very
very important that they mitigate because the portion of the damage they take gets turned
into raid damage similar to that of Rune Twister of an axe. And it's quite painful.
Have we thought about re-tanking two healer-ing adding in a DPS?
Deming's great.
Yep, so I never messaged right now. Still remember me as the one who suggested one
tanking Kevesa before it was cool.
Did you?
Yeah, I didn't know anything about Unks or anything. I was just like, hey guys,
more DPS why don't we one tank it and then Alex just laughed at me and then it's
but now I know about unks I'm gonna suggest it for every fight just in
case me and twitch chat are like this we just like saying hey guys have you
thought about this like obviously they've thought about that but the one
time they do it and we're right but the smartest chat in the world
alright so we are back in that in division phase let's see if they
managed to have the damage or shield this time around of course technically
speaking they would always have the damage but they want to stay they wouldn't
don't want to use all of their cooldowns for the shield because they want to have
damage for the second phase as well and that's why they are making it as close
as they can they want to allocate as much damage as they need for the shield
and not more than that so we'll see if they manage to get it done this time
around the next pull happening in eight seconds unfortunately we did lose
canyx here so we'll see if they have damage 4 seconds left
the rest has a 5 second cast time after it comes up on the bar so you still have a little bit of time
afterwards we did lose soul as well so we've lost our hunter and our boomkin
i mean when we don't need lost canyx it's like has anything of value really been lost but now
that we've lost the hunter as well there is a little bit of reduced dps although he's
He's playing fowl, isn't he? So actually he is doing some damage in this fight, rather than typical boom king gamers.
You guys gonna get buffed again at some point soon, do you think?
I think it's doing okay, I think. I don't think we need maybe a single turret buff.
But we're gonna rework very soon from the new patch.
But anyway, we are in that second phase with the two people that I think is still progress through this and they're gonna rest in a little bit.
So the first disple coming through here on Jinji, hopefully is entering the portal next.
That was really close, he did manage though as the second Dispel comes through as well, Narko going down
so that means we're gonna play with two dead damage dealers because one rest coming up in 10 seconds
as they move on to the second platform, Ladlas of course is running as well, they need to get through this shield very quickly
while also dealing with the mythic portal as we've seen with all these other Disfels, Servo and Nice memes
are about to go through. There we are, Kush next up alongside Frago.
Importantly, while you're transitioning between stages, the portal timer isn't ticking down.
So when you jump up, the portal timer resets to 10 seconds. When you go onto the bridge,
the portal timer resets until the portal spawns when you get onto the second platform.
And then when you move up this bridge, the portal timer resets. So you can see it says
enter portal, go right. They're not missing it. It's resetting as they go up to the next
platform. It's attached to the ads. So when ads is dead, the portal disappears
And then a new one spawns with like a new cast time basically.
Don't have to worry about it being in my group.
Yeah, a Santa just missed that portal I think.
Yep.
Yeah, it was on a screen, just was concentrating on other things.
Didn't realize.
And didn't quite take the portal in time.
So yesterday, Kenix played Veral all day long, doing very respectable middle of the pack damage.
Today, he is back to bootkin.
Yeah, interesting.
And I suspect that has to do with last phase.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
a lot of adds, a lot of adds that are very spread out and difficult to do much with as
Farrell.
Farrell's single target was very good yesterday, but they've seen that the last phase is very,
very hard and likely to be the sticking point, so I think that's why it's been back to Moomkin.
Yeah, that's interesting.
I think we've talked about this when we saw all of these adds, we were like, oh, that's
probably a damage profile for Moomkin.
And it is true.
Moomkin is pretty good for spread out targets.
That's why Khaenix actually struggles a little bit to survive in phase one now.
Of course, we're a little bit tankier than Moomkin in comparison.
So now Kha'Nix, I feel bad a little bit for Kha'Nix, because he has to relearn these fights
on different roles, because it's still a damage dealer, but it's a range instead of a melee,
which definitely makes it very different.
He probably needs to find a different spot where he puts his roots compared to the melee,
so he has to go further back, he has different positioning, of course a completely different
rotation as well.
He's squishier, so he has to... we think the way he uses his defensives.
So yeah, it's gonna be a bit hard for Kha'Nix to get to that last phase and also Mookin probably not too good up until that last point.
Yeah, true. Can you speck switch in the middle of a fight?
Unfortunately not.
Well, you unfortunately imagined it would be...
It would be funny.
Yeah, but as he's flying through the air as a panther, he changes into an owl landing into P3.
That should be like a druid thing. Only druids can do this.
You know how the kids change
You know when you jump in and in the air you turn into like meta that's like a demon hunter
That should be like the same for druids
You know like you jump in the air as a moon kid and then in the air you turn into a cat and then you let your feral
It it would if the problem is you already have four specs. I don't want to give you more stuff
Yeah, but it would be very fitting for druids to be able to do that
And I can't think of another class that it would fit well like I guess as a priest you could like
Sit down and taking you out the fealty to like whatever good day or two you want in the middle of the fight
You could like turn like what doesn't why is a shadow priest a shadow brace because they're evil probably
I don't know that would make sense right?
But is that true because if that is true like you just like jump we can make some money there
Oh, like there's like something purple and you grab it in another evil. Yeah
One is powered by the light and one is powered by the antithesis, which is a fancy word that Sam started to use, which is void.
Apparently the opposite of light is not dark, according to WoW law. Void is the opposite of light.
Which does make sense. Because dark is the absence of light, right? That doesn't mean it's the opposite.
The opposite of light is nothing in this regard, I guess, which is void.
I mean Void is evil
Isn't dark also the absence of light? Yeah, but that doesn't make it the opposite. Oh, I see. What would the opposite of light mean?
The Void is what they're saying because like the opposite of you is not you not being here
The opposite of you would be true. I can't really
So the opposite of light would be
Light we can't see
Or Void
No, I don't like this Void idea. Okay, we're finally a new idea
Let me just get... what's his name? The guy whose name starts with M on the phone.
Metzen. That's the one. Let me just get Metzen on the phone.
Ring ring ring.
You should call Mr Blizzard.
Hello Mr Blizzard.
We have been discussing Void.
We don't like this idea that Shadow Priests are the opposite of Light Priests because they're powered by the Void.
We have thought perhaps they could be powered by something else.
Your nearest is what's smiling.
We don't have any suggestions.
but when we know we'll get back to you oh wait I have one really funny joke I
have to do there's no way it's funny do we have a do we have a pen like a big
bit of paper and a pen Sam yes you're a magician Joe oh this is this is top
tier okay this is top-tier joke I remember the other day because I'm
gonna have to we're gonna have to call our session about 10 minutes or so so
I can start getting ready.
In 10 minutes already?
Yeah, wait, it's 10, 7.
And Sam said he wanted me off the desk and out of the house by about 11 o'clock and I
need to finish doing stuff.
I'll read these couple of donations while Sam finds me a bit of paper and a pen.
$25 from Anonymous saying, we need more medic and Nagura cast.
What needs to happen for Nagura to make an appearance at the Worlds?
Oh.
Are you gonna come?
Will you just arrive?
I mean, I did play a lot of League of Legends before and I feel like that is the only
requirement to become a League of Legends cast, all right?
Just gonna play a lot of League. You don't even have to do that, I'll be honest. You just have to be able to talk about it
It's like with wow you guys will play Final Fantasy, don't you?
I can do that. I play LoLs all every day.
Yeah, you do so well at that, don't you?
Your connections are gonna be so much worse now that I'm not sitting next to you and able to walk across.
I felt so arrogant yesterday though, because you were in the middle of a game
You said I need a smart person. I immediately stood up and I was like
to be fair I did ask you to help me with my wordles like many times so you're
probably here we go it's connections Shakespearean plays is a good one that
was difficult and I mean you are very smart so I think you're allowed to say
that you say I think it's not very funny no that's true I had one dollar from
anonymous as well say look I just donated because everyone says you're
great medic but honestly i'm still trying to figure out who you are are you the intern they brought
in to fill space or something caro heart did you send this i did yeah i thought so you signed it
yeah if you're gonna be anonymous you probably shouldn't sign the message i didn't quite understand
the rules i'm gonna work on this one yeah okay we're actually in a very decent try here
as we are in phase two, we do have the X down, did make the damage check here, everyone is going to get knocked to the platform, everyone is alive, we don't have a battle rest but another one is going to come up soon
and now of course we need to finish off these X while we also have to deal with the shadow gate mechanic, Jinji is the one going through first with Mini on the other side
so they are basically switching places, now they get the Dispel in a moment which does so much damage to your group, unfortunately Nights and his Desk go down but we are going to rest with him soon
Then we do have Hopeful that is going to go through in just a moment with Revis for the other team.
And this one is actually a difficult portal because you get pulled on both sides.
There we go. Now we actually interrupted the pull because we had enough damage to cancel that.
That was very good. Now Bloodlust is going to be popped in just a moment.
Nice memes is going to get rested a moment too. There we go. Bloodlust is running.
And now we need to make sure we get through this absorb shield as fast as possible.
There's just so much damage coming in.
and all of the pools plus the portal dispel is just so so much as kush is entering in just a moment
he is pre-positioning brago already through from the other side dispels coming through nice means
still not getting rest very interesting it makes sense that they don't necessarily need the damage
but there we go now the rest is coming up also depends on where nice memes is with his death
right because if he's sitting in the middle of the bottom platform because he's been rested
down there his body can be sitting there he rests and he immediately is just stuck in the
Anyway, we do have a white supporter was miss so close. Hey, what's very close? It was very close
Go through the portal as well
That is possible. Maybe they snap over it at some point half the breed is dead
Maybe they just come from the other portal and from the other platform over
Yeah, unfortunately, I mean again Kennex having to switch
Spec going from a male adps to a range dps
He probably needs to get used to what he's doing a little bit because of course
He's a ranged DPS now and he plays a completely different spec which means that he has to really focus on his rotation and what he's going to do
on these platforms and this is one of the few times where we got to this platform with everyone alive, so
Some slack even was even his fault
So this is a chicken. This is indeed a chicken. What's this resembles a chicken?
Yeah, what's this?
Yep, what's this?
Tail yep. What's the one part of the chicken we haven't talked about?
It's very it's in the middle. Yeah, okay. Remember that word, okay?
I'm very glad I remembered all the parts of chickens
Put out your thumbs like this
Is the mic, is that headset on?
Oh, it will be when Sam turns it on.
Oh, what a great way to eat the book.
It makes me so happy it's not on yet.
Good morning.
There we are.
Good morning.
Good morning.
I was cackling behind you there.
You're going to join us as well, Jesse?
Hello.
No, not the pastry.
Oh yeah, I was like, hang on a second.
Where did that show?
Okay, okay.
Right.
Okay, okay, okay.
We can talk about this afterwards.
We've been saying how wonderful it is to have him.
I was your, we reached 30,000.
I wish your cast are appreciated today.
Oh, okay.
So I had to give it to you before you left.
I have wrapped it in a bin bag.
Thank you.
Because that's all I could find.
Let's have a look.
Thank you so much, Jordan.
I had to give it to you before you left.
So I got you your first wow mount.
It is an inflatable flamingo mount.
That is your southbound mount.
Oh, that's amazing.
Thank you so much, Jordan.
I really appreciate it.
I will wear it with pride.
We have Silas at last now.
Yeah, I will wear it with pride.
Thank you so much for watching.
Before MediGlee, we also need to get a cast or picture going, right?
Yeah.
Are we doing this while the broadcast is happening?
Let's listen in with Wave.
It's been an honor to be here, and I'll be watching some chat with the rest of you
Hearts in the chat, Geomatic. It's been so nice having you.
We want to change that. Some people need to hit them more so they're not always last.
Can we do that? Because me, you can also just not hit anything at that point. It's really bad.
I mean, I will do more damage. The problem right now is that I need a reminder to use my
infernal and E1 earlier. I just forget. It's such a random point. I need to use it.
get me when you need to do it and I'll make you run into it
you can use yours on that last bit there like we were on the bridge I guess
but Flix can't really use this there because then he won't be ready when we run into it last week
okay so I hold mine for after I like it
I can run it up
is this a mandate or something?
there's so much left
10 million
It's chaos wolf.
He's one chaos wolf.
One half wolf.
Can you chaos wolf them earlier?
No, I did mend it.
I'm gonna do it.
That's gonna be your barrage.
We're sending barrage there.
What happened here by the way?
Fregman was assigned to a kick there, but he's not even the club.
Yeah, my vaker was ping-ponging.
Yeah, I think you were just late.
I'm not supposed to go to the portal.
Yeah, nice meme she was dead. That's why he's supposed to be in the news.
First case we can shifting for another kit here.
That's also why we could have killed the Pity here with the Gage buff.
But yeah, still shared health, need to kill the outside adds faster.
The inner adds, the other team can help us, but they can't help us with the outside ones.
Who's going to have some heart there?
Yeah, Albert said this, you can kill the other.
I'd either do a low build or hit the portal.
Night perfect. Wolf evokers.
I'm pretty sure.
I don't know if whoever takes PI right now in intermission can maybe pre-fire it a little bit.
If we pre-fire, we should give it to someone else in intermission.
Like someone that has a longer CD. I would gain nothing from a pre-send PI.
It's like it's awkward with my trigger.
Yeah, check in right now cause we're sending both the finance and the optimization.
So if I can take my third trigger then I can change some timingster.
Yes.
Third trigger.
Yeah.
Like I'm doing cross trigger on the last quarter and that delays.
I don't think PIS is that important to me.
I don't think so.
If I just remember to prefire my inferno, let's go.
Yeah.
That's probably too much.
So you send my bullets gig early and don't put them in intermission, that's fine as well.
But then we lose the intermission alone.
I'll just do the same. It's gonna be fine.
Yeah. I will also do more and then I'm always shambled by the party going and then I'm 10% health.
And then I focus on my health instead of doing damage every time.
Did you die too nice? Were you just me? Or what is this?
Yeah, I got me a little bit sad because I'm...
I mean, if you check my fault, but I think it means a bit.
I'll go back a little bit.
It's because I'm running, uh, go back a little bit south of this platform, yeah.
It's because I'm running, um, to bait the ad, and I'd only throw indulgements on him,
but then he got, for a split second, so he's just gonna hit the other guy for a global instead.
Okay.
Never happened before, it was the first time, so just, I don't know if we should look at this one.
Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Okay. Let's get it then. Let's get it.
1 minute on foot, that's enough.
One thing you can also do is moving more people off the shield at because right now I'm not hitting the shield at because of the overkill if I hit it.
But it's really efficient for me to hit it.
Is it just Genji and you?
I'm not hitting it at all right now. Last fall I didn't even touch it.
I think what we did now was really good. Mine died also. It didn't die too fast, it didn't die too early either. It's like good in between I think.
I think if they focus the swapping over to the ads hanging I think it's a
I think I'm gonna feel good I think you can also you call if it's not dying and
I can swap it so and kill it with you. Will you ready? I'm just running around
pressing shuttle button and uh...
...sheet head
yep, I'm ready
what happened?
God, Kush is so disgusting bro
what?
what?
these guys...
these guys banned from being the energy drink
he smells like fucking...
like he just shed on the ground dude
what?
please
please don't turn me on like that
oh my god
which feed?
what is this bait?
that's a legged one with them ready to run go
blades under you now if the face ones up guys this will be auto-facepalm very soon
good call where we gonna wrestle put my love with me
Touch the blobs, touching, holes under you soon.
Ready, go.
Roots coming, readying on this timer, two, one, ready.
Lates under you now, staying spread.
Lates under you again, touching the blobs now,
touch, touch, and blades under you now, holes now.
34 Roots, we're spreading on the Stimer
In one, and go
Blades under you now
Positioning for a Toxin, it's here a lot of time
32 Legit to the other side of the Roots
Legging it in two
One, and leg it
Blades under you now
Perfect, need to change it now
Okay, 30 seconds
It's fine, it's okay
Push the Blocks
Blocks now
great damage and one extra run extra far with the pull in if you can in two one
pull in eight way you need yes give it we could be a bit further to the left
initial port goes gloves scarring watch the DPS club yeah clubs great run away
3, 2, 1, good, just watch the blobs, i have a lot of space, watch the blobs, 8 or more
left side, these are growing, blobs, watch the blobs, we got the damage don't worry,
watch the blobs, but the rest of the squad, easy clap, let's go, watch the blobs now,
Bells in 2, 1, now, pull in, nice, skip, jump, and the bathroom's up on the platform.
There we're not for next, so you get it, they drop to the wall, and spells in 2, 1, now, push nice moves next, and push the spells in 2, 1, now.
No, A.J.
Still a spoiler?
And we're back.
I'm now here with Mike replacing Matic.
Unfortunately, he did have to go, but we have a very good poll.
So let's focus on this one as they are now on that third and last platform
before they reach the last phase.
Unfortunately, as we come back in, they missed the portal.
It is that last portal that we missed already once earlier.
Interesting.
So this is actually...
Okay, I don't want to say the casikers because I mean that's just what happens, but
This is a very good pull dead the moment moment you come in
Okay, they definitely are struggling in the snow because literally the white before what's that same portal?
I'm not sure was Ken X or the other person had to go in
I'm not sure and they may be juggling it because there's this really unfortunate overlap where they pop bloodless in order to deal with the
the voice speaker shielded ad.
And then Kush has to do a portal,
so he walks away during bloodlust in cooldowns
and AFKs next to the portal for like three or four seconds.
I think they may be juggling who's supposed to go into it,
which is gonna change timings.
You have to learn your timing for going in,
depending on the mechanics that are occurring.
So, gonna be some learning there.
Wow.
Oh, we were looking at it like, this is awesome.
This is really good.
And production literally said that definitely
gains a base tree, so we need to come back here.
actually production curse yeah Mitch actually totally ruined this one hundred
first time production curse I think it might be time for productions pickle
challenge because they won they haven't done that you know oh yeah really sad
we'll get there we have space on both sides here you can come in well the
next week sure that's it can you can make things happen but a good morning
for Echo regardless interesting they're still even with all alive they chose
still to bloodlust that uh uh second platform because they know they can't do that that's gonna
have to go at some point but i assume they want a bit more phase three practice and so they're just
gonna lock that down because phase three's health doesn't matter it's about controlling and figuring
out what the hell is going on uh with the confirmed we were thinking yesterday it's like is it five
ads or is it gonna be like holandris where they added a new bomb every phase and they got the
last one it's like where's the bomb yeah and it didn't appear but nope there is five dangly boys
is going to be joining us in that last phase.
Roger looks really stressed out.
I can imagine.
Yeah, he came in the castor room,
and we were like, how you feeling?
I don't know, dude.
I don't know, this is a little spooky, you know?
This is a little spooky.
I mean, at this point, we're praying for a Hail Mary
that something weird happens.
Oh, I'm so good by so many times.
It's been a pleasure, sir.
Have a safe journey.
You're going to make me watch League of Legends now.
You know that, right?
Have a good time in the world.
Bye, medic.
See you, medic.
Be good, dude.
Been an absolute joy to have medic on the cast.
Been a professionalism for the Echo Cast.
I mean, can we say that?
I just wanted to say that he came in here,
hacked both Mike and Jesse.
You already said goodbye.
I hadn't said goodbye yet.
You said goodbye.
I know that is why.
But it looked weird to the stream,
so I feel like I had to explain it.
Because I hacked it earlier.
I think he just doesn't like it.
whisper in my ear that was like is she looking?
did she notice?
yeah
that's good to hug the girl but that smell
I just couldn't get close
yeah
that's what he told me when he gave me a hug
I did not actually take a shower today so
yeah he knows
he didn't set the shower
I actually believe you
I did not shower today, I'll shower later
cause I got to the gym
I already did that
Jim, we've done our bit, and that's it.
Now we're full of pastries.
How was your session?
Jim into pastries.
Jim immediately into pastries and red bull.
Thank you again, because they were actually delicious.
I had the cinnamon one with the glaze on top.
I don't know what was in any of them.
It was so good.
I picked anything that looked nice,
and I was like, I don't know what these are.
And then really sadly, the lady at the counter went,
what have you got?
I don't know.
I'm sure.
Oh, what's in this one?
I don't know.
She just went, right.
I went, they looked nice.
She spoke English and she's fine.
She went, they do look nice.
She greeted me and then she just kind of
yo-loaded a load of pastries through the cell.
I just went, yeah, that'll do.
I think they're all a donut.
That'll do.
They're all gum now though.
They go, yeah, I was having a bite of one ginger one.
What are you eating?
I went, try it anyway.
That's really good.
I went, yeah.
You can have that now.
And you go, yeah.
All the pastries have been devoured.
As well as the rest of our pictures which have just been left with despair face
Not appropriate. We're not into spare. We're in good times, but obviously fear. Have you done theories?
Yeah, I know exactly what happens. Okay, let's do theory number one with Jesse. It's not a theory. It is what happens
It's not a theory. Okay. Let us know what happens. What happens is when the boss hits 20%
She fully ascends you get about a 20 second because window on her while she's casting her ascension
Then the platform breaks you crash down to the spider web
We've all seen underneath the platform in this form fully ascended
She takes 20% more damage dealing 10% more damage, and you deal with her down on the spider webs same mechanics
No, yeah, it's highly different phase a different phase that primarily a DPS burn as she's ascended
That's running on the back of the theory that usually some sort of mythic only twist is usually not that hard
Exactly. It's also running on the theory that if you if you have to do more than getting her to 20%
It's not happening this week
This has to happen somehow it's interesting though because I mean if there would be some major changes
I feel like it would be incredibly unlikely that we haven't data-mined anything
I'm saying nothing. I'm saying what's your theory? I
Okay, so I do I do one justice theory to be true that we break through the platform or something
I get pulled into the middle because maybe
break or maybe she like
Crawls down through the middle and like pulls everyone with her webs
Downstairs like that would also look really cool. So and then downstairs. She does take like more damage because yeah, the health of the boss is
Too high
for it to die this week. I
will I said this to Roger because Roger was
Obviously, they're thinking about it here and Roger was looking at me. I was like, there's one thing that's
is important to me right now.
They have been absolutely on the money
with the health values of their bosses.
Yeah, that's true.
But everything is true.
Yeah.
They have really dialed it in perfectly
as to what is possible for every single boss.
They have like minor tweaks to Kai Bezza,
but it was like a little bit more.
Yeah.
Then a little bit less,
but they got it like right on the money
for where that needs to be
and they did for the others as well.
And they nerfed Silicon Corp by 5%, which was not needed.
They could have killed it with 5% more.
And we were wondering, OK, why did they do this?
They could have left the boss.
They would have been able to kill it like the next reset, right?
So maybe they knew how much time it would take them to kill
Queen Ancerek and everything.
And you know what?
We are nerfed this boss now by 5%, just to make it easier
for them.
We know 5%.
Because the initial health value was 5%.
And then they're like, okay, let's nerf it
because we know Queen Anstrakh is gonna be difficult
and we want them to be able to kill it soon-ish.
So maybe that was the-
So maybe that was the-
It's the 10 days, we're about there now.
Can I use the 10th day, right?
Yeah, so we're close.
So if they, you know, Blizzard does aim for 10
roundabout plus or minus one or two.
So, yeah.
And they also wanted to get rid of the two tank,
the one tank, even thought process on Silicon Core.
So, you know, it's like, okay, okay,
guys are pushing everything all right we're gonna make sure you can't do that
we'll know if to coincide with the damage values of what you were seeing
previously it's a balancing but nothing like sweeping mega changes have
happened they've been pretty damn close and getting it absolutely perfect of
what the players can dish out my theory okay I think this is a door boss I'm
sending door boss that's not you have a another pipe available from which I
half over there that's not a thing in well it's never a thing until it happens it's never a thing
until it happens and I would lose my mind if they went full door boss on this and be like oh my god
it's happening it's absolutely happening but I am I'm with you guys I think something is waiting
for us at the it could be the 30% mark as well obviously liquid may it's a 35 30% 20% is the
number that keeps floating around that something is going to happen because and the reason we're
saying that guys is because otherwise oh no like even next reset I mean this is
like it's not possible I do want to tell you tat is inundating with questions
what is a door boss oh sure yeah so adobo is a technique that has been used
in raiding in ff 14 for a very very long time with their very very hard bosses
and it often appears either in their ultimate fights which are huge enormous
megafights that are like 25 minutes longer something as difficult as Queen Ancerek.
Or it usually happens at the end boss of their savage mythic equivalent bosses where you essentially
hit, you could call it a checkpoint, but you hit some stage of the fight. Usually it's where the
fight would ordinarily end in other versions of the fight or something similar. And then what
happens is the boss changes into an unseen new entire version of that fight that is considerably
more difficult and ramps itself up, but for the remaining time that you go in there, but remember
FF14 instances are on a timer, so you have to reset them every couple of hours or so, it varies,
you start there instead of here. So WoW has done stuff like this in the past, we've seen fights
in the past all the way back as NaxxRammas, which had like limited attempts and tries,
in order to try and, this time, hamper the pace of the guild, Algolon also had a two hour
time limit, or if you could futureize one hour or something like that, that you could actually
attempt and do that boss per week. So they have toyed with ideas like this in the past,
so the idea is that at a certain point Ancerek would ascend essentially, and then we would
get a new boss that is a door boss that has either some sort of tries or some sort of
thing going on with it that the guys then proceed from there on up until a certain point.
I'd be very curious if they go that way, or just to split out and make a new
ascended queen amserec boss
Or absolutely nothing happens
and it just
there's no way
There is no goddamn way that this I mean I can't say that
Every time you felt that way about a boss they they've done it. Yeah every single time
The problem is like that the mechanics are so difficult than what we've seen in phase three so far
Like even just figure like even if you stop damage completely on the boss
You fully just focus on the edge, you play the mechanics and everything, like even that itself is super hard, right?
And then
looking at the boss HP, 35%
For liquid, right? As they're there in a lead right now, they have gotten through most of that phase, right?
There's some time left and of course, they're still optimized into like loads of optimized, right?
They can shift the bloodlust into the last phase, they can
min-max the damage on the edge, so not everyone goes on the edge because right now
I'm sure still everyone is completely switching to the ads whenever they're responding to
Really making sure they're not gonna wipe and at some point you can do as much damage as needed on the ads and everything else
Can be boss damage, so there's loads of optimizing to do
but
Still a long road to luck
20% you know because let's say 15% is what you can optimize, but then the boss is still 20% left
and 35% is a lot of the health. That is just so much health. So it's gonna be very difficult for them to get there.
And we do know we have a hard lock on how far this fight can go. I mean, even if you shenanigans the 12 debuffs by throwing them to tanks or throwing them to a music class.
Even that will be very hard to even execute.
I really don't think you can live with the debuff plus the essence. It's 7 million damage per second per target. I don't even think Tate will do that.
So of course you could have nice memes nether walk to get through the portal with one and you could throw a spell blessing and spell warding on someone to get through the portal
With one now with bubble for a bit. Yeah, but whoever does it will die 15 seconds of self 7 million damage per second
I don't think any tank can live and I don't believe that blizzard will have designed to fight in such a way as it requiring
Tank sacks and deaths. I don't think that they will have designed it to require that
Okay, we said this before though, and it is technically possible that they require you to
have intentional deaths for their mythic guilds, like they can say, okay, we are going to have
this boss work like that for the mythic guilds, or for the Razor First guilds, and then afterwards
they're going to change the mechanic or reduce the amount of acolytes that there are
to not have that be a requirement, because we've seen the same thing on boss like
where you had to like use a gateway or other blinks or whatever to get through or over that wall
So I do think there is a possibility that Blizzard actually said you know what we want two people to die
with that essence to make it possible and that be like part of the
difficulty because at that point in the fight if you didn't use any Bellraz before you could rest those two people back up
I mean that would be Archimon Mythic style
You know, they were, I mean, as we said, Don Kai-Vezza, combat res is a resource.
It is there to be used.
It's not just there as a safety note, certainly at the mythic level, which
is exactly what all the guilds did on Kai-Vezza is that was like, nope, this
is not for mistakes anymore.
This is actually just a resource, a raid tool that we're using similar to
Bloodlust, similar to anything else.
That's where we're putting into that category.
That's been done for years and years and years is to bypass
mechanics, get around them, intentional deaths, things like that would
require perfect play, but that's not new here. Unfortunately, in the Nrubar Palace, perfect
play has been a big part of a lot of these end-wing bosses to make it happen. But in
great news to celebrate everything that is Nrubar Palace and where we're going, the
baked beans banger has just gone live. Live on Spotify. The official song of the race
from echo is live including samples taken from you the viewer selecting and voting on them the
baked beans back are we having a listen to this okay have you heard it no oh i want to know the
You made it into a song.
This is amazing.
I can't hear it in the super loud.
Can't hear that.
There we go.
There's something.
I'm hopeless now.
I'm a gum, give us your beans.
I punch it in the kidney.
I punch it in your beans.
It's the bank beans banner.
I'll say it again in a minute.
Chris!
Chris, we need a baked bean sussie.
This is so good.
Yeah, we need Susie beans.
It's like 1,000 people listening to you.
There you go.
Your beans on Spotify.
I love it.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Is this where you thought you'd rise to all those years ago?
I think I might have to call my mom right now.
Crying.
What a great track.
Thank you to Low Wave who've been working with Echo
to produce the album for Narabar Palace.
That you've been listening to those bangers in all
the breaks and things like that
that is live on Spotify now.
If you want to go and take a listen,
have some gems and obviously the rest of Echo's album is uprising I think it's
called is that correct? Yep if you search uprising or Echo on Spotify you'll find it
one of the first albums custom made by low-wave in association with Echo I know
Mitch worked really closely with them to get the songs exactly as they liked it
and as you like it when you're listening and coming up with exceptional
pastors to go along with the tracks here at the Race to World First become
quite the... I think people look forward now as much as the race is just coming up with cool
pastas for the songs in the chat. We often sit in the castor room and see what you guys have come
up with each race. Making Wide Nessie. Wide Nessie became so popular that Ubisoft made me one.
I got a Wide Nessie sent to my office and I was like, what the hell?
It's kind of so funny. Like sometimes with like their votes,
Oh god it's hilarious and also when they like pretend to be bosses like Jordan lost his
arm but it's so funny.
Rootswister was, I didn't even want him to kill it, I actually was like I hope they keep
wiping because it's just worms with wine, like nice try, have you considered attacking
my eggs.
They almost comedy gold.
Yeah, I'm not sure if we've got one for answer, we need a little answer, I saw someone
find one some sort of dancing spider to go along with it but yeah you guys have been absolutely
credible throughout this entire race and we did say last night as me and Nogura finished off the cast
it's like it's tomorrow the last day i think we're in for a surprise today that is not the kill
that's what i think we're going to see from echo okay that would be good though like so you're
you're saying that um they're gonna overtake liquid basically because i'm just calling for
Liquid is asleep right now. Yeah. Okay. So that is like what we're working towards right like whatever happens afterwards
We don't really know but overtaking liquid
Would be the goal for echo today, of course. Yeah, at least to go even but
Preferably overtaking them. I think they go overtake because this is where echo seems to pull they call it the clutch echo last boss buff
But echo plays in a way that's frustrating for us a little bit because we feel a lot of stress, you know
casting it and going through it is like okay you guys came to be trolling a
little bit like this needs to get together you need to sigh out and they're
like but then when you speak to Roger you speak to scribe that's totally fine
yeah that's super chill they're like they're like yeah this is all part of the
fun it's all good and then when it gets to the last boss they lock it can we
show the show Kush right now look he's sat up like there's something that
changes like when you look at Kush at any other boss as he abuses that
cheap death resource. That's what it's there for. It changes. The whole thing's changing
and I think it's changed now. So I suspect we have a few checkpoints to hit right in the
next few hours. One is going to be getting to phase three again first and having a look
around. They've obviously got some tech. Roger has been slept three hours, I think
he told me. He was up on that cooking, getting things done. He's totally fine.
Did he make breakfast for the writers?
Did he?
No, it's a joke.
Oh, but he's choked with his mommy Roger.
He's been mommy to us all.
And now we got the laundry back and they had mixed up some socks, unfortunately.
Like some writers have socks about other people.
It's like the socks incident.
What a pro.
And now some people propped more socks.
Yeah.
Cannex this morning came to me while I was in the gym.
He's like, dude, I propped more socks.
Are these yours?
No, dude, I'm good.
But yeah, some mix up in the laundry. I think someone's got my underwear somewhere. I got like three back and like
A little odd
Not a sniffer thank God
Percy's creeping on perfecto in the elevator that he just takes all the underwear
What's going on here?
I was just amazed at how much attention perfects our shoes got not only for my wife, but actually
I got a love thing with sweaters like when you buy their shoes.
Really?
They are nice shoes.
I actually liked it a lot too.
He's such a fashion boy.
Yeah, he really is.
He knows what he's doing.
He's a Greek fashionista as the portal is about to go down 4% left plenty of time
before the Yank actually got to top that raid up though because we know how dangerous
it is.
Even just this one add or two adds on either side is we've seen people get
Melted here, but it's clean combat res in hand for echo. We're gonna pay a little attention here. We're likely to still see this
Platform to bloodlust is what we'll call it. I don't think they're gonna get rid of that
It will be part of the checkpoints for today's to drop that as he saw got something taken down
I had to buy at the portal all those orbs that come flying across the res has been taken
He's the top before they fly up there is oh
It's kind of ceiling him. Oh wow, that's cute
And Kennex actually going to the portal now so they changed the portals a little bit
It's not Jinji and Minni anymore
It is now Kennex because Kennex clearly had a hard time getting into the portal
They went twice to it
Maybe it is a movement thing that is missing and that's gonna be probably Jinji replacing Kennex on that portal
That was the issue but hopeful and Rev is still the second set of portal goers
The dismal coming through they did a great job with finishing up the portal
Oh no! They did a cancel!
The Yank didn't cancel, it's gonna be...
Actually the camera is now in just a moment, in 4 seconds I can get now back up so I might be able to continue.
Never mind mirrors to go down.
That's the first time I've seen this. It must have been right on the same server.
Yeah, it's quite laughing.
Yeah, that was maybe even a little bit of a delay, server delay, because the ad was dead.
So usually the way what happens is that the Yank, the webs that pull you,
they even if the animation is still there it does not actually go through if the ad goes down
before the the pool the yank so yeah they didn't expect it to happen already walked up the platform
and then the yanks still went through on some players it even looked like all of them were pulled
it looked like some of them only very strange yeah that was uh that must have been the exact
second the animation went through because wasn't it been pretty clever we were actually praising
them earlier it's like they thought of like okay that would just be really annoying
if you've cleared the platform and the yank goes out we don't want to lose the yank mechanic
and it alternates between the sides so they made it so that if that's out there it cancels because
you've spawned the next bridge and resets it back to the other side but obviously if it happens
exactly at the same point lesson learned we're 140 50 pulls deep and it's like huh okay interesting
new tech learns it learns here but another lovely pull from echo and new knowledge acquired
Wipe or not, they learnt something.
Now they need to be a little wary of that happening.
It should cancel, didn't cancel.
But that would be another checkpoint they want to do is drop that Bloodlust,
because it'll have to go to the last phase at this point,
so they can try and manage these 4 and 5 adds.
They don't have a huge amount of HP.
I think it's total, I think you worked out yesterday, just about 90 million.
Their base HP for shield is about 90?
91 million, exactly. Very good memory.
And that's the base health plus the shield.
The shield break allowing you to start kicking them,
Which is very important because that damage runs up very quickly and it's causing deaths as well
Is that 64 million health 27 million shield? Yeah, just multiply by that five easy. Yeah, not so easy
Express you guys up do you
Like there's something saucy going on here. It's very sus. Yeah
Well, why are we waiting for them to do another pull with the changes that they have?
Employed and applied implemented. I'm trying to mix all of the words together
Why Feral go away?
Because Blast Race?
Why she can go away?
She's gone
The wings are gone
But we do have new donations coming in
Thank you so much for everyone
That has been donated
This is a good cause for games for love
We do have $25 by Andrea
And I say to all the casters
In production love the immense wonderful job
This race has been
Fun while at work to medic the new guy
You have been wonderful. We are going to miss you. We await your return next time
I did definitely notice that the last few days medic has been a little bit like like exhausted, you know
He's like I didn't think he's gonna be that hard like working every day like oh my god
So maybe he's maybe you won't return. We'll see. I hope he does. Yeah
We do have a hundred dollar donation by Tony and they say love that medic is on the cast now keep up the good work you guys
Thank you so so much
And we have $10 back proud Austrian is they at Nagura?
How can you sit there and let them talk like that about Austria somebody from North Feral?
I am disappointed just for the jokes very cool race. Good job everybody. I'm so sorry my Tyrolean friends
I do appreciate you very much. Well, they basically said that nobody cares about Austria
fact
Austria is great. I love Austria.
Austria is fine.
It's a beautiful country.
Not bad.
It's like, if you compare Germany and Austria, I feel like, Austria is similar as Germany.
You know, they speak the same language and everything. They're very close to each other.
But Austria is like the more beautiful mountains, beautiful landscape.
And I do think they have better food.
I think Austria is superior.
Yeah.
I prefer vacation wise, Austria to Germany.
Every picture I've ever seen,
everybody I speak to from Austria
shows me a picture of their house.
And it's always just like a screensaver.
It's so beautiful.
And it's weird.
It's like, oh yeah, I live in this like crappy town.
They talk about it like they live in a dump.
Oh yeah.
Right?
They talk about it like they're literally living
in a trash can.
They're like, yeah, so I live on like,
I live this like crystal clear lake or whatever.
There's just like a mountain. All the people are like really nice. It sucks.
I'm like, what are you talking about? It sounds like Dylan. Yeah, it's all right.
Nobody likes where they live for some reason. Everybody seems to think they live in the most
miserable place on earth. I love Missouri. We love Missouri. Hell yeah. Hell, what do you do
for a fun in Missouri? Look at the cows, growth in corn. That's exactly what I do too.
I live
Why would we stab we have guns well we have culture in Manchester
We have cows, we have corn, we have mountains.
You have anything where you live?
Cows, corn and mountains.
I always hate hearing the story of you going home anytime.
like the most Willy Wonka adventure I've ever heard of in my life. Like your
airport's like six hours away and then you've got to get on the back of some sort of creature
and there's a sherpa who leads you up from here.
A sherpa picks me up a hundred meters from the border of the province because you're
not allowed to enter with any kind of vehicle that is powered by anything.
I could see you in a different life being one of those Alaskan survivalists. You
you know he lives in the shed in the middle of a frozen forest
and it's just you and a raccoon
Jerry
Yeah, Jerry the raccoon
and then if you come back five to twenty years later
you're just grunting
but then you go in and he's still screaming
Hello!
some backwards, yeah the wolves attacked last night
No one's watching, they don't have internet
Oh, people would watch that
the girl in the backwards
people would totally watch that
that is a gold idea
Yeah, I think this is a new show in my head. It's called survivalism with Nogura
And we just dump you in like Alaska or the middle of the desert
With like, I don't know bottle of water and a tent
It's kind of because I would love doing it, but I'm so bad at like
Literally everything
We're not baking cakes. Well, okay, not baking, but like surviving something coming up with like ideas on how to survive because I mean
You know, I'm like gamer. No, of course I cannot fish
But I would love to try to figure it out. You don't it's so boring. I love it. It's crazy
Do normal fishing I would just like try to like get them out of the leg with my bare hands like oh giga turn
Oh, you didn't have to speak for that. I've seen you get out of the chair. Yeah, that is crazy
No way but like a spear spear fishing. Yeah, but you got to deal with like the refraction of the wall
There's a technique to it. I've tried fishing six times within 10 minutes. I'm out. This is so boring
What about ice fishing like oh now we're cold and bored
You're demeaning my state's national like pastime this is great. Oh my god
I can see fishing being like like almost like meditating, you know, I
I could do that in the warmth of the home.
That is true.
With some headphones in.
Nature is good for you, Mike.
I love nature.
Zip by the street, have a look in the water, drink some beer.
It's very relaxing.
Honestly, okay.
This has been lost on people because I was walking through the fields and then there
was a bench and there was a person.
There's noxleys on it.
There was a guy just sitting there.
He didn't look at his phone.
He just looked into.
He just looked.
And I was like, wow, what a psychopath.
That guy's a freak.
Did you walk around?
I don't like that.
But then I was thinking, wait a second.
That kind of does seem nice.
But I couldn't do it more than 20 seconds, maybe.
The two of you spend like an hour running
and riding a bicycle in a gym, going nowhere
as fast as you can.
But I listened to podcasts and playing Hearthstone the same time.
And you trash-talked fishing.
I was watching the new Vince McMahon documentary.
and three I would do that while fishing that is true yeah but I have to go like
to a place I have to carry on have you ever carried full fishing gear it's such
a pain in the ass no Emmons parents love fishing I've got to pick them up in
my car that's a look all that stinky damp awful crappy gear I put it in my
car I hate everything about fishing I hate fishing more than I hate horses
I really hate horses. You hate horses? I detest horses! Why? Have you smelt a horse farm?
Yeah, it smells pretty bad. Now I lived with horse people. Oh. It's every day. Okay. It is a
relentless attack on my senses of manure and I have woken up in my bed, lifted the quilt,
and there's been straw in there. And I'm not Jesus. This is not Bethlehem, right? And it's
It's just the worst. It's the worst. I've got my laundry out all nice and clean and there's been hay in there
There's been left in like emis socks or something
Everything about horses is bad. Oh really? Yes
It's expensive. I can see it. It's miserable. You have to go every day. You know, they go and clean up horse crap on Christmas Day
Oh, wow, right? Okay. Yeah, that is crazy. And then these idiots fishing
I'm looking around going get a game
You know how much renown you could have by now?
You know, you bothered farming.
You could fish in WoW and get toys and rewards.
You could win a tournament.
You can get a special rod.
You can get a little title.
Stack some XP potions, level some characters.
All practical goals
to be hit.
Okay, while
you're at the start of the
WoW, let's read out to donations.
$25.
They say, Go Echo!
Thank you so much, Misty.
50 by Randy they say these kids got me for what for three oh three fifty okay I
got it now I was very confused and Sven with a $100 in Asia and they say and
once again what a fun race to follow a superb production to enjoy a wonderful
cast be entertained by and of course another great cost to support happy to
do my part go echo thank you so much Sven and all the other people have
donated. I really appreciate it and of course Games for Love is an amazing
cause as well. So it is, hope you, some of you may have listened to the interview
that Jesse had yesterday with the head of Games for Love, telling you all
about the details and everything that's going on, but it's a wonderful
cause to help out those children whose lives are dramatically affected in so
many ways just by disease and horrible things that takes away that
precious childhood years. So anything we could do to alleviate some of that
And then bringing them back to size so good. I did want to pass on a chat during the interview Nathan
Talked about how we started the charity because his son was ill and they were in and out of the hospital
He wanted to pass on a message to chat who he saw was worried about his son
Yeah, I forgot to mention in the interview. I son beat his genetic condition is doing great
He's a black belt a state champion has made a full recovery and living a very healthy life
I know I was worried about that his son is doing well
And that's the that's the story that they're trying to replicate through games for love right entertaining the kids providing instruction therapy and then helping them to transition back into regular life with internships
Scholarships learning opportunities like that. So just a really good cause that is so amazing to hear you do have another $10 nation by Ben and they say preach
Why does it look like you spent all your off time from casting and streaming on the sunbeds love the race so far as usual we love you Nugra come on echo let's go
I got 10
You do look very 10
Is that what you said?
I haven't got 10
I'm actually ultra tanless
I haven't been in the sun in quite some time
You just have a natural like
tan skin a little bit
It's more like red
I can see myself very pale
I look a bit peppa pig
Not daddy pig
I do think you look kinda 10, I mean I agree
I can't believe you called you 10 when I'm actually a little bit 10
10. Yeah you've got like olive skin. Yeah actually went out a lot this summer and no one's commented on it.
Well try harder to be in the sun. I guess I have to be out even more. It doesn't
count if you go out wearing a full like burger. Full coming up heads and toe and all the things.
Remember to wear sunscreen. Yeah I wear sunscreen. I have not a big sunscreen either.
Sun is real bad for your skin. I like the sun a lot. I really do. I love the sun.
i keep trying to propose an event uh because we do preach con uh every uh year so although
we're doing the next one in 2026 but i was like you know what we could do we have that many people
who come we could legitimately book a whole hotel in like spain or something yeah and we could literally
have it all to ourselves with like all inclusive and stuff like that and just be out there and the
feedback i thought that sounded awesome we got some water parks together do all sorts of cool
stuff and i was like this sounds amazing yes and the feedback i got was why would we want to
to be in the sun and I got that unironically from so many people waste no I hate this I
would love to and if they don't want to come I mean I mean you just go to Spain
see get rest beer sitting the sun we're gonna have a great time our trouble show
We consume them, I'm going to consume things, yeah.
It's going to be amazing.
We'll have this luxurious lifestyle, and every afternoon we just have dinner and say it was pretty neat.
It's the whole show.
We have to drink cocktails out of these coconuts.
It's important.
Anyway, we are in phase two.
Unfortunately that's going down.
Can you really stop commentating on the polls please?
please. It never works out.
How are we the moment, you said, oh, we have a good poll.
This is the third time this morning.
He started the juice.
It didn't take a poll.
Well, to be fair, anyway, we're moving on.
As we do lose rice, and unfortunately,
don't, a rest available in 10 seconds
so they can get it back up.
As soon as that is available, bloodlust is running.
We do see the people are walking through the port.
There's still kush that has to get through here.
But it's also Jinji, I think, that is replacing.
Kha'Nex just went somewhere, but unfortunately the other side did go down.
He's not going through that portal now. He's going to just pump DPS to get in there.
But yeah, poor Kha'Nex there. Just a few one too many ticks of the purple juicy juice.
I think he just needs more defensives there.
Because you are going to take a tick for sure as it drops.
And yeah, bear for me, kind of slow to get out.
There's Arcelo.
This was, um, they missed the DPS check on the ad.
Mmm, okay.
Even with the Bloodlust.
An only rise of a death, not exactly a huge DPS contribution there.
Well, Kenix died, right?
He was back up by then.
Yeah, but maybe died with his cooldowns or something?
Mmm, I don't think so.
I think he got open time to catch both of the last standing CDs.
Unless he's sending them elsewhere.
The damage profile, this is not like a concern.
It's a shift of damage profile that they'll have to adjust.
because we even saw them not break the shield earlier with all alive so they pulled a lot of DPS off that shield
what is the cooldown called?
such a line
uh he's using uh can we switch to karenx? he's using karno or c.a.
he's using c.a.
he's using c.a. and he popped it after he was red so he's still got his damage up
okay
he's just just crap damage
i mean
let's play with all of karno
actually true on that on that ad his damage was very very bad
so no then he didn't like did he use both c.a convoke and
Force of Nature?
You want to check his... are we flaming his cast sequences here?
No, I just want to know if he had everything up, you know?
Alright, so...
Celestia Alignments?
Wine Time.
Convoke did not go out, what's the other one? Force of Nature?
He's Cade and Force of Nature, but he did not convoke.
Interesting, that's very strange.
Because both Convoke and Cade have a too many cooldowns, you would line them up.
Is there two adds up? Because you just try and delay it so it makes sure it goes into one, because there the other adds still alive so you don't get some that still happens with the combo correct, some of your spells go shoot off.
Yeah, they changed it that your target is getting all the stars, so the other spells go random, but you would still use it for single target damage, you wouldn't hold it.
Does it still do silly things like thrash and all that?
Also puts rejuves and regrowths on random people if they're not topped, it's so funny.
Well, the way it works is that there is a certain amount of spells that are going to be damaged spells, and the other ones are utility spells.
So it's not that you can get super RNG than the only cast utility spells, for example.
Well, Kilbriser out of interest.
Now, Kalex, we saw what happened there, just a couple of extra tiki tics.
He got a little bit comboed the dispel into the rest, comboed him down.
just needed a little bit more healing or a personal
god look at the damage profile incoming damage
there's so much damage
yeah i mean this is canex's log here you can see
acid bolts followed by the gloom dot which is 1.7 million
just just a tick of that dot is 1.7 million uh even with bats kind of like
yeah and he also had a regrowth up there's a new thing where if you regrowth yourself you have an
8 percent damage reduction on yourself
well really that's kind of huge actually
So hero talent. 8% is a lot. 8% is a lot, I won't say a lot for you.
That's a lot, 8% is pretty good. It's nice, it's nice.
I mean, he did, so it was a lot. Killed Kanax off with standing in two void
puddles at the same time, both the web and the shadow puddle.
Ah, there was a web. Each of those, the the shadow puddle
void zone is 1.7 million and the web is 1 million damage.
So I guess what happened then is somebody actually positioned the
dropped it in the wrong spot, and you can't drop the paddle, yep.
Okay, interesting, so I guess that's okay, I didn't think about, like they also have to
remember where to get pulled.
Yeah, because the location you are when the rest goes off, drops webs there.
And the weird thing about this strat is that they're using both the back of the room
for the portals, which you can't not do, the portals are where they are,
and the front of the room for the adds, which again, most of those you can't change
because they're casters. So it's hard to find a place to drop your rest webs as you get pulled.
And then the dot on players from disrupting the Shadow Portal does so much damage that
it needs to be dispelled relatively quickly, so that gets dropped right there with everything
else and it comes a little bit clustering back there.
Yeah, and then you would also think, okay, some players have abilities to cancel the
pool and then they can put their puddle more forward in a better position, but not
everyone has that ability to just like cancel the pool and you also to remember
that some people have to save their movement abilities to do the portals
right because to get there to get through the puddles or over the puddles or
whatever so yeah yeah I think what I saw is I think this is why
Kevin's has been switched off as well it's because he was barrel they gave him
a lot of the crappier travel jobs to do so we saw that like even in phase
one that the getting you have to the overlap with the four toxins and then you get the webs
is they made him go really far away so the other melee had an easier time and it's like dive in
really last second to get there and then they were also doing that for the third platform which
is what you occasionally miss is they're having a dash all the way up to get that very early
platform and I think he said to himself I guess I just you're asking a lot you know
It's it's not that I don't want to do it. I can't do it
But like we're 50-50 and nothing here can be 50-50. That's why they're on a wine time
Wonderful little picture there drawn by Jordan's givers emotes for ourselves
They've got wine time
Yeah, so we've got oh, I think it's actually combo wambos. Yeah, you can sit the next to each other
See if we can do this because Jordan's got an artistic plan that picture
What are you doing trying to sell, sell nutrients to someone?
I have no professional pictures of them.
There's some kind of bias going on because all the pictures that show up of Mike and
me and Alex are us eating something or some horrible face, something meanie.
And then the girls always like, as professionals could possibly be, heading for Wall Street.
World class dodger.
So currently, what Echo is doing, if you want a quick update when you join the stream,
is right now, wine time.
There you go.
So you can just look at our little display here to get caught up quickly if you have
to go to work or something or check in on your lunch.
And exactly right now, the guys are doing wine time.
And thank you to Jordan for her wonderful artistry.
She's brought glitter.
I love that.
Where did she find glitter?
This is the thing she carries around her.
She's got a little kit that she breaks out.
I've got this
Oh she's back!
We've got kids
Who do you do this one?
Oh it's so pretty
Oh my god look at that
Yeah cause we're not in despair right now
The guys are doing just fine so what we've actually got
Oh no is it jam?
You jammed me up
I got trolled
Okay
Who's ruining the wine?
I can fix this
I can't press the key
it's bad the most yeah indeed what we're actually doing right now is proper wine time
there we go
yes chat if you would like some more uh emote descriptions of the race uh jordan is got
is there a bean maybe jordan and chris have got their artistic skills on uh in order to represent
the progress through the race this has got to be a new thing that we can all do if they have
really bad vibes and I want glitter on the lips you know that would look great all right just
watch i've got glittery fingers now it looks like a bit attacked by an elf glitter is actually
like the devil yep like it's just you just looking at it and all of them everywhere
i hate it it's the worst do you put it on your face absolutely not no you don't use that
like glitter eyeshadow and stuff like that and sparkle shine.
Glitters everywhere, I hate it. I would only do it if I go to like some special thing like a
rave or whatever then then I don't mind having glitter everywhere but then at that point I definitely
go to a location where I know that it can be completely like wiped off you know like I want
the glitter to not touch anything. You don't want to wake up in the bottom of Glitterpillar.
I've been there. My rave days are over now.
You know what I wanted to do last year? A phone party!
Oh! That's nice!
It was sick! And everyone was like, no.
Really?
I got shut down on all these ideas.
I was like, you know what we could do on the second act?
We had another building that was a nightclub.
And it had two areas to it that were about as big as here.
So I was like, in one room, we'll have a phone party
party that would be blasting neon lights lasers the whole thing from parties are
really fun in the other one we can do board games and stuff people don't like
it so we gauged everybody was like I'm never going in the phone party ever I'm
like it's just be me in there just looking like a snowman just having a
really good time in there so I got shut down on all these ideas I like this
let's go yeah we could just like have only only like the famous like which
music playing but like in a great beans banger yeah but in like a rave version you know that
would be so good. I need glow sticks and fluffy giant boots. Yeah you just follow this track
oh my god it would be great. Rave shops were my favorite clothing shops when I was a full
god I used to go there all the time you know for like LED screenshots and things like
that yeah I was wearing all that in my university days bright purple hair oh yeah very important
it's it was clutch you needed to get it done I went to a rave that's small like
local rave where I lived like not a huge thing a couple months ago and I put on
this like fishnet like top and it was outside like we were actually following
a track for a little while and it was it was great and then the next day I had a
10 line where like on my upper body where it was like the fishnet yeah that's
criminalize thankfully it was only my shoulders and you can cover those quite
good in the UK with the there was the northern techno alliance I think
they're still going it was a few years ago since I've been but they used to host
quote-quote legal raves so they weren't sanctioned or anything but they used to
be what you get is a text message of the location it's somewhere within like 40
miles and they'd find a forest or some clearing or something and they would turn
up with all the stuff on the back of the giant trucks yeah they would just
park trucks up and then they would just get going for like two days and the
first one I went to I was like a bit nervous it was like so this is
legal and like yeah but we went there and the police were there they
were lining the roads and I was like oh god we're gonna be in trouble and I was only like
18 or something like that. This is gonna be really bad. They were like no no no it's fine.
And I was like really? Yeah yeah. So we drove through the police light and they literally
were like it's harmless it's fine innocent you're not gonna disturb anybody because
in the middle of God knows nowhere and we're just here in case anything goes wrong but
yeah it's gonna happen. Yeah so like this rate that I went through it's like very
similar where they don't announce when it's gonna be like people know it's gonna
happen where it's likely it's gonna happen but they don't tell you when because
if too many people show up then there's certain rules that they have to follow
like there has to be security there's to be fences and whatnot so that they
don't want to have any people come there so they announced it very late
like a day before or so and there's still a lot of people to show up and
there's still police and like like the firefighters and whatnot in case
something does happen but they just don't want it to be very big which is
nice I like cosy raves yeah it's fun I'm out of it now, can't be doing that these days I'm too old
just be asleep in the grass yeah well I haven't done that before but still I don't want to do it
now I want to go home to my bed going home and having a little sleep in my bed as I go
back into a pool they have already had an early death I think it was hopeful I'm not sure
But the combat res is used for the guys again a little bit of wine time in between they're reassigned the portals now
To make it easier obviously the cannex moving from feral back to balance no doubts as said earlier in readiness for all those big
Spread out giant dangly spiders that are going to be present in phase 3
Their goal right now is actually just to have more of a mess around in phase 3 before they tighten up and get rid of
The bloodlust on the platforms because they know they won't be able to use that so steady stream of progress
they have a clear objective in mind of what they want to achieve over the next few hours,
but this is a fight that is looking more and more suspect by the minute. And I'm somewhat
sticking with what I said about five or six days ago is I'm pretty confident Buzzard has
done the math. I don't think we're going to see a negative.
Yeah, and here's the thing, right? I think if this was not intended, like if they're
isn't if they're really far off right they would have nerfed it by now because they've seen
what happened and how far they got and how had it the sausage and is and they know how
they know when the enriches as well right so they would have adjusted the boss HP
by now if they think that it's not doable and that makes me believe that something happens
like jesse said earlier with that like you know the boss takes more damage there's some some
extra phase special phase where the boss I don't know with it and rage resetter is
different or something has to happen for the boss's HP to be I don't know I my
personal feeling is I think the raid boss designers are having the best time
with this raid they've really been able to come up this is a really slow shield
from echo though this is a little spooky they're at 23% and space is a
a premium right now for them. It's 14%. There's the yank cast, but they're very low in space.
Got to weave those wide people globules.
Oh, that was so close.
That was pretty spooky. That was a bit spooky, but we're good. We're off and we're on our way.
But I think the raid boss designers are really having fun seeing how far they can push these players.
It's got to be a challenge for them internally. It's like, how far can we go with this
and see what they can do and you're right.
I would say this though,
if anybody from Blizzard is watching Echo's progress
right now, if you are going to nerf this boss,
I beg of you, if it's coming, give a good heads up
to the teams of when it is going to happen
and what you are going to do.
Because the last thing we want is something like
that happened with the Maedrasil,
is it just suddenly happens in the middle of a pool,
Echo's going to bed, there's no planning,
Liquid doesn't know when it's happening either.
We had that with like Razageth, you know what I mean?
They just woke up and it's like,
Okay, I didn't know if I fight.
Give her a heads up.
The hats up, like obviously I would love to have a hats up,
but I do think that Blizzard usually,
like whenever they're thinking about nerfs,
they are thinking about it very strongly.
And they, like if they're in the fence of a nerf,
then maybe they shouldn't stay it.
You know, like if they're like, maybe we're nerfed.
I think when they've committed,
if they decide, okay, we are going to do it.
Then they should just do it in like a good moment.
But anyway, we are on a good pull,
let's talk about that later
as we have a good pull going on here.
We do have to enter a portal before it goes...
Oh, no!
Chris didn't quite manage us.
I think there was actually a...
Bop missing.
I think Bop prevents the pool. Is this true?
Jesse?
The Bop was already sent on Canix.
Oh, okay. So did they intend that to happen?
I think so.
So does that mean that Kush doesn't get the Bop anymore?
No, I don't...
Well, I think there's something on Canix instead, but...
I know that I saw it on Kanax that full, I have to assume it was on purpose, it's hard to bop someone and it was pressed right before he went in, that's true, that's true.
So maybe Kosh is all supposed to get a buff because I've seen him get buff before.
He has a couple of times as well.
So maybe he was missing, Kosh didn't notice that it's not going to happen and then he didn't manage to get into the portal.
Obviously he was not going to be able to make that with the dragon.
Oh come on, how is that... yeah, that was true.
So it stopped you about the fight.
That's for you, I think.
It could be true.
Well to be fair, they are distracting from the production course they did earlier
because they did say,
I'm going to bring you back in because I could try it.
It was a good try.
They're definitely going to make it into phase 3.
That's what they said.
It is what they said.
They didn't make it into phase 3.
They should have.
It absolutely should have done that.
It was very close.
What they're getting better about us, obviously some changes, switch things around like you
just saw there.
There was no real way of push being able to do that.
So something needs to change, which means more wine time.
Can't find any patterns right now with the Bops, they're sending a window to the player.
It's every single pull.
So maybe it's a call thing currently.
Yeah, I need a little bit of help.
I'm not going to make it.
Throw the Bop my way, see where it goes.
They can actually see Bops happening now.
They're definitely discussing the Bops.
I appreciate what and where. Perhaps it was even on some sort of macro. You never know when they've made some sort of pre-assignment, it's like they just have Bob on a macro to send it and it just lands on the wrong person because the thing has changed.
Well while we wait for them to figure out the Bob's and the Macros and what not, I'm going to read some more donations as more have been coming in, won by Hay and they donate $5.05 and to say speaking of corn, what do you call a corn in school?
I don't know.
It is a unicorn.
Why?
I also don't know.
Why, doctors?
Dominic, with the $10 they say with my hating horses, you should try horse meat while still in Cologne.
Oh, is there a thing in Cologne, horse meat?
You can get horse meat in a lot of places.
Yeah, you can get it, but I didn't know it's like a cologne thing.
Well, why the spiders, I know.
Well, anyway, that has horses.
Alright, then we have a 10 dollar nation by Vol Chayre and they say love
preaches long-distance relationship with the Sun. I love the Sun, just no horses.
Fishing, foreign food or general going out? So, you just stay in.
I think he is saying that's you. I love the Sun, just no horses, fishing,
foreign food or general going out. I know all the Sun. It is a little weird to
say you love the Sun and then live in Manchester. I want to move. It's really not that weird.
It is one of the things I would like to change to be in a world sunny climate for sure
We have five dollars by sick
Charts and they say
Awesome casting but bring back perfect to the couch now
Like you can't cast all day right so maybe he's gonna join again in the evening, you know, maybe he's having some
Gym session or just watching the players
He does go to the gym.
He does what?
Going downstairs?
Yeah.
No way.
He just wakes up later.
Since he's not playing he's sleeping in and then he goes gym in the like mid-morning.
That's the ping-pong after that and then they come up in the afternoon but he's not going
to be up and around right now.
It's a hard life, isn't it?
Hard life, yeah.
It's tough out there on the bench.
It's tough out there on the bench.
The other day he was working out at the gym.
St. Thomas.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, I've never seen him once.
I haven't seen him either.
I get up pretty early.
I don't think the fact is in his degenerate hours.
The time when you're running at six in the morning,
Perfecto may be gone to bed by then.
Well, he's not here.
I know that.
Maybe he's waiting for the call.
He is awake, ready to come in should the moment come.
Phase three will dictate whether Perfecto actually shows
his appearance once more as I have to put in your bosses.
But of course, with Kush getting both the mythic daggers.
That's it.
Yeah.
What are you going to do?
They said they went a whole day together.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, I didn't know that either.
I wanted to ask, but then I forgot about the question as we were talking about other stuff, but two rogues on tour
Yeah, that's a that's a journey. It is very interesting one
I would have loved to listen to some of these conversations they're having. We do have another $10 nation by anonymous no comment
Thank you very much, and we have a hundred dollars by Braggen and they say I had no interest in the race
But I had quite a few love out loud moments listening to you all these past few days
So here's some money for the kids also can can you call Mike a clown? Thank you
You are a clown
You are a clown
You all stop saying that for the love of God.
You don't know what you're doing to me, right?
I beg Chris to say that.
I beg you, Chris, to say that.
I'm apparently in the back room.
Oh no, no longer does Chris need to do that.
This is on my, never mind.
I will thank you not to say anything.
The chat requests of you are a beg.
Please, please don't do that.
But it is wine time here,
double checking where they're going with these selves.
Gotta be, really, I get the speech
when they're going so methodical.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's weird.
do this I'm literally any other boss no matter how hard it is that they play this way where they're
really considering it and it's been a big uh I'd be interested to see if the feedback from the
players this race is we took a little too much downtime it was something they were working on
for years is that they were like hey this is really boring for a lot of us like perfecto
pointed out yesterday he was like when roger starts speaking that's when the secret lab
Titan goes into full recline mode uh but they're all locked in right now but they have taken a
lots of these mini breaks to discuss what's going on but another part of this is this fight is so hard
yeah and I mean obviously we've been in phase three and we've seen it a lot but
we certainly are still progressing we're working on a consistency of phase two right phase two is
definitely um causing a lot of the wipes that we have and I think optimizing stuff in phase two
is very valuable and I think that's what that's what they're discussing so much because they get
there and they wad to something and we've seen lots of changes in Phase 2 as well.
First of all, Kha'Nix is playing Moonkin now, which requires some changes with the
portals because of course he had a portal assigned. He missed it twice as a Moonkin,
it's like okay maybe this doesn't work with Moonkin, it worked with Feral or Moonkin maybe
not anymore, then he switched with the Jinji, his portal because Jinji of course being much
more mobile with those blinks coming in and then we saw different kinds of bobs
being used so they can make the portals and yeah all of these changes of course require
tries and optimization, different week hours. So yeah, I think that is what they're working
on. As we have Jordan handing us an email. I'm so excited. What is it this time? So we're
not going to be first people. You are a clown.
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We're not holding right now, now they're pulling.
So we'll have Blalata's wine time.
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Little Blalata's wine time.
Jordan is the whole team now.
So we've been upgrading their artistic tendencies
to see what they can get done.
And definitely helping to add the current mood here in Cologne with what is happening with the players.
A lot of smiles, a lot more dialed in, they've been all week.
What do you think? How does it feel? I don't think any of us have really hit this point.
Maybe a little bit with Killjaiden. Did you do the problem Killjaiden?
Yeah.
You did world first one?
No. I lost in future.
Oh, yeah. Don't look at me like that.
probably worse more despair than any other yield probably it's just it's an
odd feeling for the Raiders to be progging a fight working hard not that
they're like downtrodden or anything because obviously we kind of suspect
something weird is coming for a fight that kind of we don't we know we can't
quite get the end probably but we never say never but you still got to
take each challenge as it goes right you've got to still overcome so many
challenges but you're also looking at a fight it's like um we don't know this
doesn't seem to add up based on what we do. They've been in that position before
right it was it was commonly thought on slavannas that it was not possible to
get 50% week one then you learned that it was actually 45% it was pretty widely
thought that was impossible to achieve they always find more damage and since
they've been in this position before they're not gonna sit here thinking
this is a waste of time it's not a waste of time because who knows what
happened to 20% or who knows what kind of damage you may find or if it's
not possible right now and Blizzard is gonna send a tuning adjustment then they
want to be in a position that after that tuning adjustments they're well
practiced and able to get there and and take advantage of it. Why do we think
20% I'm not 30% I okay it could be all I know is that the border of what's
probably possible to achieve with DPS right now is 20% I see that's why I
say 20% anything under 20% I don't think it's happening this week 30%
could 20% could either those would be fine yeah I see so that lines up with the
enrage that we do know exists yeah okay I see so let's we're gonna be sat here and
this is gonna be a bit like a jailer actually where it was like alright
something probably is gonna happen here and it didn't and then the next one no
nothing here we actually have that with Sarkarath as well as like so this
fight is too easy right so something's gonna happen somewhere no no maybe it
10% nope 5 nope nothing happened we had all these theories oh Zazi going down at
the worst possible time to lose him there I think he got ticked over by about
1% looking at that damage value that went in on Zazi there but that is a healer
down and the bomb is about to go off onto these raiders and do absolutely
horrendous damage lovely blink by hopeful to move through the boss shield
is down but this means we're not going to see Zazi back on his feet until
platform to the hardest of these platforms and that means that somebody
is solo healing an entire side which has been done before yeah but it's not nice
oh no this spell causing both canyx and clicks to die very unfortunate of course
they can continue but it looks like they are jumping off yeah rising one down to
two dealers is not worth continuing they've pulled a lot of resources off
that shield break it feels that way I know preparation they have they're
they're pulling a huge amount off that shield break because they've got it
somewhat reliably down and they're milking it into the last half second of
the cast I do have some interesting analysis I can put up on the screen for
you I would love to see that yeah this is what's waiting for them feel like
this trolling. I think that might be the last pull. What are we on? It looks like salad with some chicken salad.
The cheese on top. Yeah, that looks pretty damn good. So they may be sending
the dinner buff, a lunch buff. We'll see what they decide. Yeah, the ready check
is going out though, but then they, this is why Julia gets annoyed. Yeah. Julia's
like, I made it exactly on time as you can see. Yes, it's like three minutes
after the official lunchtime it's fresh it's hot it's beautiful then you guys show up late and then I see
I'll hear you guys saying oh it's going cold yeah like well if you just if you came on time yeah
and it would be fine of course you could warm it up like in a microwave or whatever but a salad
with chicken on top like you can't warm up the salad right and you can't take off the chicken
and yeah so well it's on them should we go leave them to it chat would appreciate that you
you would stop cursing each pole.
Nothing to do with us.
We're just calling what we see.
If it's a great pole, we'll tell you.
If it scuffs immediately after that's because the fight's hard.
It's not our fault.
We're not getting on the floor.
They're telling you that now that it's not happening.
But they're going to give it another go before lunch.
This is likely the last pole before lunch.
Let's see if who is going to tank the pole
so we can go for lunch earlier
or if they're going to give it the full on go.
Because we had that weird hour last night, didn't we?
Do you remember that last hour where they just did nothing?
Yeah, absolutely nothing. It was so weird too, because now there's some changes clearly to phase 2,
and it makes sense that they would wipe there a lot, but they wiped a lot in phase 1 after their very best pool
where they overtook Liquid yesterday, and just had a whole hour of phase 1 wipes, which was very strange,
and it seemed like they didn't get anywhere, because they were probably discussing phase 3,
But yeah, today obviously going a lot better
Didn't get into phase three
With everyone alive like it was didn't didn't have such a good pull
But of course again, they're trying to maximize phase one and phase two and really
Work on their efficiency there so they can go back to phase three and
proc with a good comp and then you and
Perfect lineup which is very very difficult. I will say that their consistency today had been extremely good in terms of getting to p2
with only four of 12 pulls not getting there, but they're still struggling to keep that clean.
Which is why I don't think I'm going to move the lust anytime soon.
Right now the most important thing for progression is to consistently get into P3.
So getting through P2 consistently is the most important thing in order to continue progressing,
and that means that lust is going to stay there for quite a while.
Yeah, you're absolutely right. So what you're seeing is a very common process that happens at these extremely hard parts of silly at the end,
is they will change things in P1 and any other earlier part of the fight to make it considerably harder on themselves and get
absolutely squeeze this thing for everything that's possible with the current composition.
So if they will make it easy enough to get through phase one when they first get here, right?
So we need to see some P2. Then they'll do the same thing.
They'll make P2 easier and then we get to where we were yesterday,
which is like use all these easiest strategies to get to P3, see what the situation is, wait up, find out things like
There's four ads and then there's five ads then what they do good
They's good go back and they re-evaluate phase one and like okay
We need as much out of this as we possibly can and the only way we can do that is to actually make it harder on ourselves
Then because what we want is to move a bunch of things that we were using in P1 to the platforms
Things like that is very steady analysis of each 10 second period of the fight
In order to use the bare minimum to get through it so we can send it elsewhere
Not to mention that damage you do to this shield is quote-unquote wasted damage
obviously damage you do in phase 1 to the boss matters as well, one question actually
because I think I'm not going to throw somebody under the bus, somebody told me
that phase 1 actually gets triggered at 65% that is incorrect but it's time-based
yes okay so it is time-based so that person if they're listening
I don't know who told you that but they want to slap, that is not the case, you can milk a bit more damage
But obviously the damage that you do to the shield is just nothing, you just have to make
sure you get through the shield.
Unfortunately we do lose mirrors and clicks, clicks not having unavailable means that clicks
can stay dead for a minute or so once they're in phase 2 on the second platform.
But they can go without clicks for a little while, clicks are not having any major jobs
or other than doing damage of course.
So we'll see if they can do it as they are a little bit slow on the damage on these
adds here but as long as they can get them down before the Shadowgate cast goes through
oh that was actually kind of close but they managed yeah they are milking everything so what
they're actually utilizing that shield for now even though it is incredibly terrifying is they're
actually letting it play out with the least amount of dps cooldowns required and also letting
everybody else's cooldowns redo another portal missed something not quite right with the portal
situation here but uh that's what they're doing is they're actually holding killing the portal at
at this point. As long as they don't get the fourth drag in, which is the murder one,
let's go hit everybody for like seven million a piece, they could stay with that shield for
quite a while. The healers have to do three regardless, so it's not more stress on the
healers particularly. It's more a case of like, let's just relax and allow the clock
to tick on our cooldowns, so we can have them back and ready to go. It's all about
preparation for the next phase. So even though the drag in on that intervention is terrifying,
you need to abuse it. You need to use it for as much as you can. Similar to what we
did on the silken core which is like yeah we can break the shield but in fact if we just wait
a little bit make sure we don't get the next damage burst which put out the load of those
moats all over the floor is that we can get some more cooldowns ready for the next phase
and then be able to be more efficient and more effective there so we'll see if they're gonna
send the lunch both or not everybody is getting the res hanging out mirrors is giving the old
type there it is 28 minutes 28 minutes
yeah that is a very exact timer if you can eat lunch in 30 minutes you can eat
lunch in 28 so you're cutting back under sleep they're cutting back on the
lunchtime it's time to kill the boss we're gonna skim two minutes off every
break time from now on yeah at every day breaks are just lost 10 minutes off
the break well I mean if you can eat dinner in 28 minutes
We're going to have some chicken salad, get refreshed, get good, is that you saying goodbye?
Yes.
Aww.
All right.
I'll see you guys tomorrow again.
Okay.
Me and Mr. Alex, Fat Boss Alex will be joining us on the couch and no doubt Jesse's going
to be floating around as Echo loves the game, is making good progress to see what the
hell is happening.
So we'll be back with you in approximately 20 minutes apparently, or 28, something like
that.
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Hello. Oh, good.
I am excited as hell like that dinner was an eye-opening experience it was the conversations that will be had amongst the players were
Interesting to say everybody has a different idea of what the hell is happening here the general consensus though
It's just really effing hard
Just have to get to zero well then it was like merez is on my team. He went dudes
I've had an idea and I'm like, huh? And he goes door boss. Yes
That's what I'm saying dude we custom he's come in for a few final fantasy bosses
That's all it takes for him to just be on board with all of these door boss things and we've been talking about it as well
Hold on. I'm gonna move my mic
There we go
That we've been talking about all of these different potential ideas and this boss is so perfectly placed within the raid
And within like the story even to have this cool little additional thing
Don't get me wrong and we shouldn't be disappointed if there isn't one because we've been talking about mythic only phase since
I think the only race we've ever done in person for Echo being the jailer that actually had a
methic only face so it'll be awesome if they were to be able to bring it back in it would
certainly put this expansion back on the map in terms of look at all this cool stuff
that's here but we will see whether or not that is the case because they have indeed
had their lunch a little bit of a break yes potato salad with a chocolate brownie
A little bit of a break and they have potato salad with a chocolate brownie. It was very nice. I didn't know what we were eating.
I was eating it, just eating it. It was tasty and then I was like, what are we eating Amirah's? That is the question.
It's a good question. Don't know, we think it's this, we think it's that, Julia's starting to go like, ah!
I will make you all healthy, I swear. The food here has been fantastic.
So, so nice. Shout out to Julia.
I think the biggest gift that we could give her is by leaving quickly
All I want is you to go
But now she's into it they gave her a get duck to do your target so as I was like you can't get duck
So she's like okay. I'd never heard of World of Warcraft before this now. I'm fully into it
And now I'm fully on board with what is happening in this race to a first which is a story unto itself
It really is yeah echo not having yet picked up a single boss kill before liquid
But of course we are looking at the only one that matters right here and mysteries abound and you guys can put your speculation out there
Is this just incredibly hard and they do need to get the boss to 0% is there something working at 30?
20% is there something that's going to change and mix it up or is this just Blizzard who?
you throughout this raid have been really good at nailing down the exact math needed
of what the guys are capable of and they met every single challenge with very little adjustments
from Blizzard really minor touches here and there. Who knows what awaits us as this journey
goes on but Echo has so many steps to go through today including obviously as you
see now they've pulled a lot of resources off these things like shields and stuff
like that in preparation for what needs to happen next.
And it has caused them a few problems,
which it's always going to do.
But they're working through it steadily,
very regularly hitting those platforms.
But still, working on that,
working on the platforms themselves.
And we actually saw earlier, Al,
a really weird situation occurs that the webs,
which ordinarily do cancel
when you're moving between them,
if you do it at the wrong time, that does not happen.
Yeah, I did see that.
It was a little bit sad.
Also, it's actually going down there.
I'm not sure we're gonna have a redstone.
mirrors obviously taking a quick way out wise definitely wise just so quickly
do a reset here but yes I think they were a little late in building the bridge
from looking at it from the outside I took a couple of looks at it from my
perspective that bridge could have been built a little bit quicker she's got to
click the pad on to either side I think there was just a tiny bit too late so
it didn't cancel the car so unfortunately it seems like it needs to be a very
specific little window that it can happen was it has prepared for this by
saying oh you built the bridge cool we'll cancel the web so if you do it
the exact wrong time. Yeah, your knowledge quite took my frames, like ticks, however you
want to say, like a very, very short period of time where they managed to exactly hit it
so that it didn't go off at the right time. But one thing I would say is that you're
entirely right in terms of the tuning this far, especially for the top end. Obviously,
I'd say for the rest of the radio community, I hope you like doing four out of eight about
Brutewisser obviously being a lot more practical this week. But for the race, they've
managed hit the numbers really, really well. Even Cavesa, I wasn't a fan of exactly how that
was tuned, but it was killable. So that's the most important thing. They haven't done
any changes to this boss's health pool just yet, as far as I'm aware. It's not exactly
like we're during the week as well. So it's during Blizzard's work week. So it's not
exactly like they're over the weekend or there's like a holiday going on at the
time or anything like that. They're watching. They know what the guilds are capable of.
we have still got so much work in front of us that we can do. You know, we can make it so our phase
one is more, we come sure we can squeeze a little bit more damage out on phase one. Phase two needs
to be cleaned up a lot for Echo. It's about getting consistent phase threes. Once we've unlocked the
phase two sort of problem that we're having right now. It's a step by step because there's so
much happening there is that they need to be, everybody needs to be fully in tune and locked
because we only saw in the last three pulls they changed who was going through the portals
which then leads to some confusion. Some people are getting bots, some aren't. Sometimes it happens
during the web, sometimes it doesn't. There's a little bit of randomness there that doesn't allow
them to pre-assign absolutely every aspect in the place. We've got to adapt on the fly, listen to
call out, some make some adjustments to make it happen, which we haven't seen a code do just yet.
Yeah, I think they've probably changed some things in Phase 2 such as they're trying to move
loss from it as well, which is why they want to try and make it so they have as many
resources as possible. Now that we've seen the things that are problematic in Phase 3,
We might not want to use two-minute call-downs on that last platform because they won't be up in time for the four set of ads with all of the
Different what's the little webbing things that grab on to people called shackles shackles?
Which is obviously a huge
Paying point and then of course you've got the five ads after that. It's gonna be mental
They've got to make sure they have the correct resources for it. So instead of seeing face who is the prog point
It's now the refinement point
I'm pretty sure if they wanted to send less than every single one of their CDs during phase two would have seen many more phase
series today but yeah we need to be able to see phase three with the correct
you know tools for the job so that's what we're looking at improving today and
at the moment so incredibly exciting stuff I feel I did call that this boss
would die today I'm yeah that in all fairness I made that call like in
heroic week so it's maybe a little bit off but I think this should be some
really, really exciting times ahead of us today. The next six hours or so, I think could
be an amazing turning point for Echo in this race, making sure that not only do they catch
up substantially, but maybe even pull ahead of liquid in quite a meaningful way. So they
certainly got the potential of doing it. All it comes down to is the execution. Fingers
crossed that they can get it done. Yeah, I mean, that's exactly what we saw yesterday
is once the like, you said the magic or well, it's just so that the gears
all clicked into place for Echo. An astronomical jump in performance for the rest of them, including
adapting to the changes that were happening on the fly on the fly. They did extremely well
burning down those two and three sets of ads. They were able to do that very efficiently. Obviously,
they weren't exactly focused on killing the boss. They didn't care. It was more about like
clearly that's clearly that's let's see what happens next. Yeah, our time is in place
because we actually saw for the first time in a long time is the boss mod stopped working.
They were that deep into the fight. We actually have no idea what happens next.
No idea whatsoever as Fraggo just goes...
It's changing instantly Ping.
Ping all the time now. It's some habit that they've learned.
It's being toxic.
I don't know if it's being toxic or to help the combat resumes.
It's helping the other comrades.
The toxic is just a nice side effect.
It's like sparring question mark pings when someone in sin league just know just gonna let them know. What the hell is going on there?
I'm not being toxic. I'm trying to help. Yeah, no, there's someone is missing from your lane. It is you is missing
I've tried not being missing from your lane
Man make an attempt on that but they're moving through phase one again again
They do what they want everything ready for the platforms that has been the pain point this morning after all their adjustments
and they're still swapping them.
There was only like three or four pulls ago.
They changed assignments on the platforms.
Poor Canex, of course, going back from Feral.
The only thing he's not played is Resto Druid.
That's literally it.
He has played everything else in the last three fights
alone for Echo.
He has had to gear so much stuff,
but back onto balance, which makes way more sense
when they do get deeper into phase three.
So let's drop the Feral now.
I'm not gonna use it.
This is gonna be a wipe here for the guys.
Yeah, I can imagine balance being quite good
in that last phase with all of the ads
being spread out, Starfall doing a lot of work, being able to cleave like the four and
eventually five adds in the middle of the room, whilst also dealing with the shackles, whilst
also dealing with the little spiders that are crawling across the room, let alone dealing
damage to the boss.
And of course the little adds that are spawned from infest.
Yeah, exactly.
There's a lot going on.
So being able to have a boomkin there, you know, it would be nice.
It's more, you've got to kind of get them to that point, although they might
be very good on certain platforms for CDs like is that second platform being
consistently one of the most difficult ones first platform and not so bad
second platform chaotic as hell on third platform is more just keep your
nerves together you know you only find that one mob you just got to get them
down make sure we're dealing with the portal correctly so we can just keep
everything nice and calm and under control before we can transition to
the boss's final arena or we assume to be the final arena don't don't man
it could be don't we know liquid did manage to get through platform two
without the bloodlust. It should be pointed out why that is such a pain point. Not only
is there an enormous absorb shield on the add up there and if it gets its cast up, you
can interrupt it while it's absorbing. It just annihilates you, kills you, but at the same
time you've got people going through the portals and then leaving these area denial pools.
These portals of course are this debuff that you get when you come through that
portal. It needs to be dispelled or it will time out itself naturally but what it
does is raid wide massive damage. It's like 3 to 4 million damage per wave. You
have two of them going off and so they have to stagger them so they can dispel one heal the raid a little bit dispel the other
And then hopefully not die hold on to your butts at the same time there are webs dragging you off
You know to add more in all sorts of injury there
Along with multiple other ads that are up at the same time adding their damage to the equation
Which leads to an ultra deadly scenario, which is exactly why
They are going out of their way to bloodlust it burn through it as fast as humanly possible
they just don't have to deal with the relentless risk death that exists up there. But they do
also know it's not going to be that way in the end. For now though, I think they've got some phase
three stuff they want to play with. They want to dial in everything in phase one to make sure
this is right. Because every time they wipe it's not a case of you goofed up all the time.
It's like, okay, if this is happening to the same guy over and over again, there's
something wrong. Okay, let's fix that. Because when we get deep into this fight,
We cannot afford too many phase one wipes the same as raza get approach actually is like we need to lock in phase one
So we can actually just effectively work on the remainder of the fight
So we'll see how echo get on here in the next of a while as they're moving through this now as Alex right you pointed out though
This looks like a crazy damage check phase one damage does bleed over so it does it might come back to okay
We need to reevaluate phase one
Squeeze I don't think they're squeezing this for 20%
Well, they could do it. Maybe they just bring like five more members to the raid or something
Maybe we got that. Have you tried that? That's a secret strat. Have you tried 30 Magnific? Yes
It would make this a little I didn't know how much easier it'll make honestly
There's a lot of things that are real rough. There's a Kojima play as well. It's like well, actually
But we did change it so you could bring more members
Just for this one boss as soon as you start the encounter you can drag more people in
Can't exactly breathing a sigh of relief has he had to do an emergency sighs that they're nice means not managed to pulling off
After this little food buff, but echo so nice means did go down the combat has been used as we are coming towards the end of this
We expect another sort of like eight percent to be knocked up the boss
But the dangerous moment is about to happen. It really is. Yes
Yes, you're gonna be getting four toxins all at once
You're gonna have to be placing out at the same time just after that you're gonna be getting roots and those roots
obviously leave these webs on the ground so you're going to see them placing out
these four toxins in a specific formation whilst those players quickly make
their way back over to the group to spawn the goo on the ground then everyone
needs to move further along get ready for these webblades which have been
the number one killer of airco this entire time as you can see so
unfortunately getting clipped they're so easy to do a very very difficult
mechanic in order to counter but they were able to pop all of their
individual little trampolines one by one and get through five stacks on the
group is going to hit them pretty hard though but they were able to
survive it they're gonna keep going even with Zoho down we haven't got reds for
him in about a minute and a half just over a minute half mid platform too yeah
so it's still might be worth doing you can use bloodlust another point we do
still need to get reps in phase two but yeah oh Nako just taking a wide people
gobbled right to the side of the face there yeah creeping out of the boss now
it's somebody down on both one each and either side again they can push on
here it's fine but he's looking a little ropey now yeah I think it's
Time to call it there like the damage check is already quite tight because they're not using bloodlust at this point
So losing two of your DPS before this third at Yankee and is going to be very very difficult to deal with so
Unfortunate for this particular pool, but it just goes to show that as much as they've had they've a lot of pools in phase one
Bonk, there we go. Yeah tons of pools in phase one, but we're still losing people to the
Webblades, you know the big like you would think that's dangerous because it's like such an obvious visual mechanic
In fact, the visual is a little misleading with it.
Yeah, it can be.
Yeah, it's one of those things that you're like,
just don't stand in it, lol.
But if you look at the actual nature of the floor,
sometimes we'll show you a POV and it kind of looks free.
Then you cut to somebody else's POV
and it is actual just like running
across an exploding beach.
It's so bad.
They have literal pixels to stand in.
We've seen it on a few occasions
and it's a little bit R&G of whether we get that POV.
They are trying to bait those.
They obviously spawn from players
and shoot out in that star-like pattern.
So they spread out as much as possible
so there shouldn't be much overlap,
but somebody always gets stuck in a horrible scenario.
Yeah, and they just need to play out,
like, they just have to try and outplay it.
Honestly, there's only so much you can do to make it easy,
but getting this sort of consistency
and getting rid of these phase one mistakes
is gonna, it will pay off in the long term.
They really need to, like, kind of nail down
the issues that they're having in this phase one,
because if we're gonna have only a 30% success rate
in phase one, then, well,
I hope you're not busy on Halloween, Mike.
I am!
As am I!
My Halloween is already booked, sorry!
They really did need to nail that down, but there's something that they are able to do.
I'm sure you've done it in your guilds, if you've raided before as well,
that sometimes you just get back into that flow state and everything starts going right.
Something clicks and everyone's like, right, okay, we're all good.
It becomes a surprise when you wipe in phase one rather than the norm.
They just need to get over that hump and they need to do that for phase two as well.
Liquid were astonishingly consistent getting into phase two yesterday. I think I heard it was over 20 of their pools made it into phase three yesterday
With everyone alive. So these are not only just, you know, good pools. They're excellent pools
Yeah, if Echo don't get those that they're gonna struggle to get beyond this 47% mark that they find themselves out
Well, they went to bed even so a lot of pools from Echo last night. They were basically neck and neck
They both had exactly 47.8%
What's that?
It's a tie.
I've never seen that before.
That's awesome.
Sorry.
No, it's not.
It's fun.
47.8% on both of them when Echo went to bed and I think the difference in pools was like
three.
So huge amount of pools came into the liquid yesterday to pummel this.
And this is where it needs reps over and over again.
Make this chaos normal.
Everything you've seen before, every variation.
It was only like three pulls ago after the 160 echoes dummy.
So, oh, we can actually spawn the webs on the bridge.
Huh, we didn't expect that as Robin went flying off the platform.
But now you can see here in this melee POV,
not too bad this time for the melee,
but you can see Sol got hit.
So it's always somebody somewhere this overlap does hurt
with all these things going on.
And then you can see the two venom novas going off,
knocking them, one person, each group has to detonate
those as the group waits to be knocked
in the proper direction.
There's a wide people coming through.
There you go.
Sorry, coming.
You got to watch out for those creepers.
They're aiming right at you.
Mira's laughing because he knew it was coming as well.
We have had a few deaths, especially when they're passing
through the boss, because you look at them on the far side
and you see how thin they are.
You kind of forget that they get larger and larger
the further they travel, taking up more space.
Yesterday, I think we were watching a Jinjupov
where it was so unfortunate.
It was like he was pixels within it.
It was so sad.
But so far, so good.
Interesting, good.
Did you hear Perfecto saying that one of the biggest
issues that are going to run into this rate is the meteors dropping from the
pages. Um, very specific scenarios. Uh, it causes you to not see certain
mechanics. Oh, for goodness sake. Yeah. They've all been complaining and they've
all been using graphical settings to get rid of these meteors from the
makers because it was causing so many problems, especially on boot twister. Uh,
that they were like, we just can't see your stupid meteors are in the way of
what we're trying to do. And it's unfortunate when that kind of stuff
happens. I do remember beforehand that like in certain rates, I can't
I remember exactly which ones they were, but you almost had graphical settings per boss to make it so that it's as readable as possible.
I expected the arachnophobia mode to become more into it.
Obviously being used to quite nice effect in the brew twist to fight to make the spiders a little bit less in your face.
A little bit easier to see, but most of the boss models are actually affected by the arachnophobia mode.
Because I felt you, you know, of an interactive spider, you can see so much easier.
because he hasn't got that, you know.
Oh, no, don't do this to me.
I can't take it.
You've not been paying attention to the weave of the story.
I have not.
I still don't know what's happened in the story,
but the thing is, is it truly worth taking the time?
Really good.
They've taken a lot of care and a lot of time with the story so far,
and the weaver of course, roommates probably,
with the previous queen of the nerubian empire
roommates?
yeah, like a reenan guy or a roommate
oh
you can do that
see?
a lot of coffee biscuits going on pal
fair play
yeah, a lot of coffee biscuits
they managed to get into the intermission room in life so far
but these yanks are very painful
wow
yeah, that's the weakest one
and it still looks like a bomb going off in the entire raid
I guess we do have the dots going on still at that point as well
so the combined damage making it quite difficult for everyone to be top to us for this one
Yes, there's small bits of ticking damage from the fact that you've got that little circle around you
but hopefully it's a little bit more easily more easily addressed so to speak
but there we go. I love this halo build that is a part of Holy Priest now
Excellent to see. Let's see if they hold DPS here. So they have been holding damage a little bit because they don't technically need to break this until the
I'm just gonna push through but this is very very clean from echo right now
But so we do know even this part and if you don't normal in heroic this pie so stupidly free
Yeah, but you will see people just absolutely hammered with these a little fell bolts
They go out and just kill them easy the dot on the raid and then oh yeah
I'm with the dispel dots that go on to going through the portals is these combinations
Obviously, you can be hit by these swirling balls
But echo will be heading to the platforms all the lives a little bit of people need some topping
up as you can see clicks and sol are suffering here but if they're working well what we're
going to see here is them doing this one normally and then bloodlusting the next one in order
to get through it because they want a little phase 3 messing before they move on to this
actual bloodlust removal. They'll keep that there for a while yet for progress.
So we've got the Jank coming through here, ideally we're going to have one more person
go through the portal swapping sides with the opposing team, why is it opposing?
The other half of the raid. Managing to get through that particular platform easily
enough the ad has 22 seconds until it finishes its cast blood thus being popped in order
to break through that shield as well as cleaving down as much as possible isn't necessarily
the amount of damage that needs to be done here it is the amount of damage that is being
done to you as Rev as does go down followed by Penguin we do have resists for both of
them hopefully that's going to be done relatively quickly the ads have been taken down though
which is the very hard timer if you don't kill break through those shields and kill
the ads off before the cast goes off then you'll be very sad so far so good
as we're going to be heading up to the third platform all players alive no
battle res is available but 10 seconds left on us yeah and now you can see
Jinji who was previously taking that first portal is now going to be taking the
first one here this is the sort of it's simpler than the platform 2 yeah as he
moves through now he goes the dispel you can see that massive raid wide
damage it goes on so your script will be now just wait wait wait now to
dispel and unleash that damage but there we go guys we're going to phase
three the first one of today. Yeah, let's see if we see them do anything
different here because we know they've been cooking. Yeah, but Roger had a four
hour sleep last two days. He's been doing nothing but cooking. Let's hope that it
isn't raw as we're gonna be heading into this last phase. You can see
them getting a new set of raid markers down. Very good. This is very likely to
be where they're gonna be placing their shackles. Something that Liquid did
incredibly well is placing the shackles down to where the ad spawn.
So having that knowledge already in is gonna help a lot. First and foremost
So we are going to have this infest cast. Oh, isn't that a little early for the
Typhoon there or assaults vortex? Yeah, maybe maybe not we will see but there we go
We're gonna get a bunch of ad spawning as well as swellies these ads are not allowed to reach the boss
It looks like the vortex has indeed time down for the warrior there goes Rev his eyes suddenly top of the damage me
Is I wonder if I'm okay? We can keep going. We were able to survive it. No we weren't
Getting the CC wrong is a little rough here, but we can still keep going
Hopefully we can get these kicks out on these ads each of these acolytes
Of course when they die spawning an essence or their soul
Which does need to be picked up and taken through the portals, but with this many players dead
It's good to get back into this phase, but this is not how we've wanted this phase to go
This is a damaged profile change
This is what you expect to see and what they probably wanted to put down is they've done the math on exactly how much a
We can we put on those ads in a position where we can simultaneously cleave onto the boss
And now we've checked it. Maybe we need one more and that's what it'll be case because they'll have somebody else holding back for their mega mega burst
It's same. This is basically Brutes wisdom tech. Yes, exactly. Exactly what it is. It's like, okay
Yeah, we get a big group of smallies that come in
There's no reason whatsoever to have the whole raid blast them down because we get them again in about 10 seconds
Yeah, but long blade star breath all your you know demon hunter cleave, etc.
Etc Etc, the moonkin buffs. Then we have nothing for the next one and they just live forever and we wipe
So I guess what they're why we're still lusting and platform 2 is to get here. It's like okay. The plan is we're gonna put this here
The radius should be perfect so we can blade storm and do everything in here
We're also hitting the boss and they were just slightly away from that damage check not by much
It's like 2-3%
I think the damage check was actually on point that those adds just got to the boss too quickly
The CC was wrong there. Oh, you think they should just delay the CC
Well, that Vortex was down and I don't think it affected the adds in any fashion.
So it was just a, we are whoops, that was just a whoops.
Inulphanus they could have called for a backup maybe because I assume they're using like they have a binding shot available.
Kind of trash, I suppose.
Jesse, your thoughts?
Confirmed.
Alright, there it is, have you been in the bin yet again?
Inulphanus though, to him, like you can have people back you up, if something goes wrong you can make sure that you've got a binding shot down, the mages might be able to go in and do some shenanigans, you know, there's other people that could have helped.
Obviously that would make it so that subsequent ad sets are going to be a bit scuffed because you might not have your CC available
But in terms of just getting through that one and getting further in the phase
I feel the backups could have been there to maybe help out
You did see the ring of peace go down
But just slightly not enough resources plier the intervals add to the CC that we did have available
So unfortunate as it was it was good to see them get into that last phase
Everyone alive no battle res is and no bloodlust but still better than out
Nice, sir. Nice nice place for Revers to be though. Yeah, Revers just like oh
Oh, I just stand here. I go
I bet his burst damage during that period of time Jesse is absolutely absurd
It was hit all those target targets saving everything for it
You give a fury warrior or an arms warrior, whatever he's playing fury right now
When you flash at you, yeah quick brevis is damaged for a fellow the course of that bull. Oh, I like that
Let's have a look let up for me production
You do
He is AFK until the end and then it just goes
Is that 430 mark the point in which we're on platform 2 as well?
So yeah, he's going crazy on platform 2, then he goes for a little nap, then he comes back and oh, there's Spiders!
Time to AoE!
I imagine he's going to be doing a lot of work in that final phase because obviously the objective here is to cleave as much as possible.
If you're going to damage one thing, you should also be damaging the boss to get her HP down where it needs to be.
Lovely pull, back to phase 3 for Akioh.
This is looking alright.
They've had extremely good consistency getting into P2 that's far before the
lunch break. Now they need that same consistency getting through P2 so they
can start practicing P3 for the rest of the day. P2 however is very very hard.
I've been looking at the damage overlaps particularly on the second
platform. The second platform has the issue where on the first and third
you're going through the portals every 10 seconds picking up two debuffs
which need to be dispelled. Those debuff dispells hit for an average of
two and a half million on every single person in the raid, two of them going over once it's five
million damage to everyone in the raid. On platform two you have an ad that puts two more out
while the portal ones are still going out. So you're again doubling the amount of damage everyone's
taking every 10 seconds so it gets very very spicy which is why I don't think they'll be moving
the lust for a while until there's consistently getting through that because of course the
best thing is practice p3 without lust and until you are forced to relearn that without the
Last picture is going to be very difficult until you can do that sitting each player right now. Just a little perspective thing
You're looking at what around five and a half million health player right now. I haven't had to six depending on the class
Yeah, so like tanks aren't doing it. Obviously. That's a lot of damage to be taking the healers doing everything
They can to try and squeeze their way past that it's not easy at this point
I really think that platform to last is more of a healer less than the DPS
I mean, it's great to get through the shield. We need to get through the shield, but
the 5 million damage every 10 seconds to every single play of the raid that's a
heal us for now. What's our Algrax trinket count right now? It's pretty high.
I'm wondering what the rate... I'm gonna try to keep it out next time I get there
see what our HP is at by that time. What's so good about the Algrax trinket
then? So it gives you a half million HP bonus every time you use it but
that's permanent for the remainder of the fight. Oh! And it stacks so the next time
use it you get another half million. I think uh what are we saying? Jesse on Kybeza by the time they
were getting to the end some of the melee were having like 10 million HP. I'm not sure I hadn't
looked at that. Ah but uh we currently have four of those triggers in the ring. That's one of the
reasons we had on Siliconcorp. Okay so it might be something that we're not too invested in
having right this very second but like the longer the fight goes on especially if this is
looking to be one of the longer fights in here probably matching a brew twist the length of
around 9 maybe 9 and a half minutes at a push you know I think Brutus is just
shy 10 that's gonna be a lot of uses available potential a lot of HP of
course if damage is a issue though survive will be damned we're just
gonna use the trinkets are gonna give us the most damage that we possibly
could to get through it but hopefully it doesn't get to the point where
we're having to do Kaiveza strategies on a boss as mechanically intense as
something like Ansurek where you have to cut down the amount of healers
Obviously we can't sell a tank this you know making it as risky as possible doing everything you can to get there
Rather than just encouraging clean play because once you start saying okay, just go all out you have to play super crazy
That's when the pool counts go from the hundreds to well
You know maybe like the early 200s all the way up until the four five hundreds where you don't play
Do you think we're gonna have 500 balls on this boss now that we're here?
Obviously our original pool counts have already been listed. Oh, yeah
No one could have predicted the difficulty of this raid whatsoever and come back to it. I think it kind of has a trigger
It's like what are two percent behind a good DPS drink? Oh, so it's pretty good really good. That's good
Yeah, it's not the actual pinnacle, but it's it's not like you're kicking yourself in the teeth
Yes, but yeah unless something weird happens. I know Jesse is the point out is like
I think this dies at zero and it's just really goddamn hard. Yeah is where we're going if it is that case
then yeah I could see us going for a number of calls because they're gonna see
what we're gonna see ultimately if that is the case is a lot of like okay we did
P3 clean and she's got 20% health left okay what's the next step and that's
like not a resets worth of gear right 20% and then it's that optimized we're
going full sylvanas mode then is that okay we need to squeeze every drop out
of this to whittle away that amount of health to see where we go it's
something I remember was speaking to Roger before where he got to certain fights and he's just like oh this has to have died at 40% they got to the
40% it's like alright so 30 then gone to 30 maybe 20 10 okay no it just dies at 0 it's gonna go that hard
so it's something that these guys have dealt with before obviously boss health right now not necessarily their primary concern they
just want to get further and further and try and see as much of phase 3 as possible by getting as far into that phase as they
can and hopefully this pool will allow them to do so as they are into the
intermission now you're going to see the players dealing as much damage to the
bosses shield as possible you can see that little bar at the top of the screen
denoting how much percentage is left in so it's like around 75 now and going
further down as well as like a little bar above it they're saying what the
boss is sending out so sending out these waves of blobs sending out a
upcoming a grip in this yank as they call it so in three seconds all
gonna get dragged to the boss if you go inside the boss's hitbox or
There's like a little circle around it. You will die. You're also sporting goo on the ground mini going down. No res available
It's gonna be a great loss not having mini for this particular upcoming phases on that frost death night doing a hell of a lot of work
But it's still doable especially with the bloodlust the way they're using it need to break through this shield
They only got three seconds left to take out the last few percentage points, which they were able to do
They did lose some players. Yeah, exude it when they get to that point where they're really pushing it is the room is so filled with webs
There's nowhere for melee to go. It's just damage on top of damage on top of damage
And even though you are skipping the final yank as they call it which is the one that will wipe the raid is
You're just taking too much taking damage from there, but you're right
You're losing mini and that breath of sin Gregosa on that platform with all those that stacked up
That's not very good friends not good at all
That's not gonna get it done
Unfortunately still incredibly hard especially because they they have to obviously time that you can see that DPS profile is just to clear it
As that yank is coming give them maximum CDR cooldown reduction that is in order to
Have everything they could possibly have for the platforms especially if the lust is coming all those kind of things
This is an uphill battle for all these guilds. Oh, it really is. Yeah, it really they're rising to it
Oh, there you go. Brutus. Uh-huh. This is actually really really hard overcome. Kai Bezzar. Oh
Do that HP is possible. Well turns out it was yeah, if we
Vansus everybody and we use one tank and we no longer have combat res as a safety net it might be doable
Huh, it is doable. Silicon court
Is it doable before reset? Don't think so. Oh
You have to be more of a mechanical check than anything else. Yeah, it actually is okay
And we've overcome that challenge and now we stand here at the precipice of the end of the race to one first and
It's a still I'm still a vast chasm
we think well yeah of course we don't know how the end of a boss to work
blizzard moving away more recently away from those sort of mythic only twists to
fights didn't have one throughout the entirety of the dragonflight expansion
whereas we have had them once per expansion going back all the way to
we didn't get a single one no not a single one I think we've had a mythic
only or most difficult only style mechanic all the way from cataclysm all
That's why you prefer HFC, I imagine.
Why did you bring it?
I didn't even bring it up this time.
Because I don't get it.
You never talk about Hellfire Sentinel with me, Alex.
I'm sorry, Mike.
It's just, apparently you're always talking about it.
You never talked to me about it.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I'm not part of the HFC club.
Did you HFC?
You must have.
I did half of it.
Quid-Stelle is, if by serendipity my son was born as we got to Gorphine so I shut out.
I obviously, I was the tank and I had to stop.
Obviously the guild knew it was coming, it wasn't a surprise that I made it.
Oh my god!
Really?
Now?
I hadn't seen her in 10 months, it was really hard to vote.
Oh dear.
Okay.
So yeah, I was like, oh we got to Gorphine, cool.
Well this is a good time for me to step out because I won't be able to be here for the full prog.
My son's coming
So that's be really cool
Nothing was a good fight. I never did it but the kill didn't like it
Let me put it that way in the game feedback
I got it was a good fight if you had like one or two people who knew what to do
They had to control the rate of people going in that if you didn't have that person who was really good at controlling
Like it needs to be a DPSR like a normally a warrior
So you have your warrior had to be able to like raid lead that was not
Fortunately, we did have a warrior in the team who was more than capable surely not top. That was Nick
Oh, really? Nick plays anything?
Yeah, Nick plays anything.
I've never seen Nick on anything but a mage.
Yeah, I wouldn't have played with us, I pretty much really did play, yeah.
But yeah, that was the difficulty of that fight.
See, how I got dragged into Hellfire Cid on Gorphine again.
Because there's so many tales to tell.
Oh, there is.
So many stories.
Some wonderful boss.
So many memories, boss trinkets that were so broken that you didn't even DPS the boss until like 40% and then it just blew up and killed everything.
Yeah, that's kind of the case.
Legendary rings were in HFC where you could kill the boss in seven seconds. Yeah, that was good as well. Good times
There was first time we use week horrors HFC
What's that? I think there was week horrors on the lead up to it
But it's like when they started really kicking on this side to cheese. Yeah
On Iska, I mean there was a boss where you had to do CC
But you were in a room that had a ceiling you remember the soccer far fight where you're in that robot. Yeah
The ceiling in that room was just the right height for my camera to make it
So I put the most of my ice traps on the ceiling
Little I'm wise
Oh, oh I see does happen unfortunate just like this pool is a little unfortunate as we are going to be calling it as a
Few too many deaths in phase one. It is what it is
Just goes to show how difficult phase one truly is however echo do need to rise to this occasion and burst through this wall
that seems to be holding them down post lunch as we haven't had too many phase
tuples just yet yeah they changed anything guess it that's obvious to
you how often they're getting hit by avoidable things the Mao yeah a lot of
sense out of interest we've generally had only one paladin in throughout the
entire raid because obviously we want that devotion or another paladin been
tremendously awful or anything but especially in the healing role with
preservation being so kind of gross it's it's surprising to me a little bit oh I
think it piques my curiosity as to why we still have Fana in on his pala is that
something that maybe you could see a change in the future or is it just
far too useful in terms of the utility that it provides I don't think you're
gonna see Fana swapping the blessings of freedom are extraordinarily good on
this fight and that's why we have the paladins also the Holy Paladin is
doing good healing a good good effective healing over the course of the
totally powering bias that's true Jesse you play talent right I used to play talent
did you have like were you like a multi role healer a multi-class healer sorry
I played every healer spec on some progression plate during graceful first
except for us to do oh okay this is why you hate rest of the roots I just
know they're bad oh no you know they exited to a big tree did they got buffed
6% I think it was, they got buffed by 8% and then they got buffed by another 4% and they're still dead
Well of course Prez is being nerfed on Marisa, this grossness of Prezavocals
Is it actually? It is
This is new to me, what's happening with that?
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things that was causing the explosion of healing that engulf does when you consume a dream breath
from yourself. Yeah. To do too much healing. Apparently it was double dipping from versatility
and gaining more benefit than intended from another boss. Okay. Reducing both of those.
Regardless of how they couch that, that's going to turn into a significant reduction in their
engulf healing, which is the big chunk of their healing, particularly raid healing. Yeah.
I think in the mythic plus though at least they should still retain some of their strength
right much in the big plus. Yeah, because you're not much of an engulfed build there,
which is excellent for me because I don't intend on raiding, but I do intend on doing
some mythic plus things that don't affect me directly. Awesome, perfect. That's how
I live my life. The rest of you get screwed. It does need to be brought back in line,
but there are some fights that honestly feels like we wouldn't have been able to get
through hell. The preservation of locus. So I wonder if with the increase in gear
over time that's going to nullify the fact that we did have kind of an overpowered healing
class available to us. Or maybe whether or not this will coincide with maybe some boss
output damage nerfs. Well as you can see by the healing needs, this is not like they're
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Do you get that?
He actually didn't drink any.
Oh really?
No, he was just like poured on himself or something.
Yeah, he told us he drank it.
But we said, but you know not to drink it.
He went, I know.
And then he said, so you drank it and he stank it, it was like air freshen stuff.
And then we got there.
afterwards he told us like, well, I didn't drink it. I poured it all over my clothes.
It looks like more. I was like, well, why would I drink it?
But you just said that.
I told you that is a joke.
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I would rather you send the endless insults than dad jokes because first of all it makes Jesse happy which is intolerable and
Secondly, they're not funny. You might want to hold off on your abuse because stunning pool also says ps
You are not a clown. You're a gem of a human and have wonderful food opinions
Stop
Doesn't it hurt more when they say things that are so clearly false
You just know they're lying to make you feel better. I know that yeah
No, it's hilarious. What's called stunning pool stunning pool wasn't was it wipe
Unbelievable terrible locks terrible past bad you
There's also Paul is it whatever?
Paul everybody call Paul is bad. I can name like four
for a tradies jerk there we go hopefully Jace is no he's bad as well oh dear was
also this is Jace number 193 he said Mike is gonna expect this to be a mean
message and he's right clown sunless and poor thank you very much for the fire
but I think I've got high blood pressure oh dear that's the problem
yeah we're about same yeah I was in the early parts of summer out all the
time and then this was coming up so I spent a month inside just looking at the
computer screen isn't isn't that just the color that you know exudes for your
skin when you need nothing but beans for months
like the carrot thing yeah it actually turns you orange
you're looking a little bit like a human bean
I was thinking of doing a sub goal on my stream, it's awful
yeah just carrot
I'm not having this happen from the backdrop of Alice in Saskatchewan
it's like a quick change here, unacceptable
The planet south is going away, oh that's fair, that's fair, there we go, your dad jokes
have turned the stream to despair stream.
We've got a $3.50 donation from Chef who says pre-hop please hold this Tree Fiddy.
That's an excellent South Park meme from a long, long time ago.
Yeah, what year was that if you had to guess?
I remember seeing it when I was like, yeah, like eight years old or something.
I shouldn't have been watching South Park at eight, but oh well.
We all did.
Yeah.
So yeah, good memes.
We've got a $10 donation in from Doudan who says I'm tired of hearing people say British food is awful
Well, they should probably just stop talking about British food then in fact British and Britain has the third most delicious food in the world
First being Indian and second all the other countries
In all fairness, you can get some really good food in the UK. Yes, but most of it is you know
Kind of garbage. What?
What garbage meal have you had? There's two kinds of food in England. Yeah
bad food is stolen pretty much that's not true though no it's not nice you can have um
you know that's bad actually what is wrong with you defend the nation it's for the king
it's not for the queen anymore unfortunately oh thicky sometimes tinder um what tindrel over 420
since the nintendo donation it says what's your favorite boss fight of all time uh this is where
where we wildly disagree.
You know, like you, well, as long as you don't take up all time,
if you say blast furnace of all time,
then I will like find a large bottle of alcohol.
I can't remember what I last learned,
because obviously it changes,
but I still to this day think it's killed us.
That was some of the greatest,
not only was that boss fight design really good
for its era, obviously,
but he also had the grandiose spectacle
that's kind of missing a lot in a lot of modern bosses.
Like you had Kael'thas not only rise up to ascend
essentially, but also shattering the ceiling
as it all fell down.
The same sort of spectacle we saw with Blackham.
Like I loved the spectacle of Blackham.
With it like you're getting so inferior,
it's crushing the whole Citadel down.
For sure.
I need to follow through.
So I really am a fan of boss fights
that also have some sort of extra big spectacle to them
to add more immersion into what's happening.
So yeah, Kael'thas, Blackham,
But also boss fitness. I love very much. I do. I love that fight
I love fights that divide the raid team into a multitude of different jobs Calvast does it
But for me, I totally agree with you with blast furnace
It's cool that you got two different jobs on each side
But the fact that you had the mandatory pre shove just sitting there mind control for the entire
No, I was just I just had to listen to him complain about it. Oh
You know, it just that's the part as a role guy. It's such a great time
That's very fair
They're very fair indeed. Yeah, no my favorite boss fight. Um
That is your thumbnail it is my well actually it's not my thumb that looks like terrible from this was like eight years ago
Yeah, true. It's actually settled down
Yeah, what's yours then you dodging the question? I am
I'm getting harassed by production who seems so changes. That's true
I think the most accomplishment of the field a felt killing the boss is probably you now
I agree. That was a really really fun fight.
That's a spingle what he thinks.
When you came in last minute and swooped in to the queue.
I did do the proc, I missed two days that's all.
For what Mike?
From what?
That also happened.
I had no idea.
I mean it's ups and downs, calls, meetings.
I'm trying to remember.
I don't know why I actually lost those two days.
I didn't do the first fight because it was banned.
I don't know what that fight is called, but I did all the prog, I missed two days because I had to go somewhere.
I don't know what it was, I think I might have been casting.
I think I was casting for methods, UNAP, and then they killed it and I could come back and then Fingal had to go to a dinner party.
So I came back in and then I killed it.
Well, sad times all around.
Yeah, no, I think UNAP is certainly up there. I think it was just nice to have a really out-of-the-way fight.
Like I like I like the little mini fights which have like no impact and like you're just doing them because they're difficult
Something like hellier as well some reason it's actually be just the difficulty of the encounter
And it's just like we've made a few bosses and we made them really really like we put a lot of effort into them
They generally turn out to be some of my favorite ones. So, yeah, like mechanically speaking in terms of like
Spectacle and all those sorts of things you're entirely right. I didn't do Calvus. I didn't make back at bed and crusade
Yeah, sure.
I didn't raid through most of Wrath of the Lich King as well,
so I missed out a lot of the cool stuff in Old Jorah as well.
See, I'm not a huge older lad, boy.
It was the best raid, I think overall.
Best raid of all times, probably fair.
But it has some absolute crap in there.
Every good raid does.
Yeah, it does.
It has some real crap in that raid.
Like, I think ICC is up there as well.
It's like, Putricide is phenomenal.
Syndagosa is great.
Although it's got some trash fights,
that healer fight and it was crap. Bloodcounselt's crap. So it's hard to get, like Karazhan is
known as being so amazing. Is there a bad fight in Karazhan besides the basement? I don't
think so, I guess TBC or something. I did do Karazhan, been a little 10 man, that was
cute. But I gotta say best fight of all time, probably the champions of life. That's
a criminal thing to say. There's nothing more epic than fighting a paladin in an
Anyway, so thank you very much for that question.
We got a $50 donation in from Anonymous who says,
any chance we can get Perfecto on the couch again today
was great having a player perspective on the couch
yesterday.
Keep up the great work and let's see that mythic only face.
Thank you so much, Anonymous.
And I think so hell yeah, if he wants to.
It was wonderful.
I wasn't here on the couch,
but I was watching in the classroom
while I was just chilling.
It was wonderful.
It was great.
I love him.
Every time we got the chance to have Perfecto on the couch,
I'll always take it.
with most of the players but he is here sorry Melio he was in the gym earlier waiting to see
phase 3 summons the power of Perpecto at this point we still don't know the comp that's actually
going to kill this bike legitimately we have no idea yeah it looks like they're going through
they're taking some time to really try and nail down whatever they've had issue-wise here because
you know this sort of long break between pools normally means that they're trying to
recook something and get something done so something's not been right for the last few
pools so hopefully they can figure out what that is and we're going to continue on with
of your donation so more or less missing out on any of the Brog, we got a 5 dollar donation
in from Necronod who says I'm Jarvan and I'm helping. I tanked Hellfire Citadel for Alex,
love you Alex and go Echo, I remember that meme, when I back what I used to stream 100%.
Yeah, he tanked a lot of Hellfire Citadel for me. We did so many kills with that last
boss, do you remember as you was going into the next expansion you could get like a mount
or something? I tuned into your stream regularly to see what you were up to and you were always
on a different character. Yeah. Everything and you were in HGFC. Yeah, all the time. I lived there,
I've got super bids got a five dollar donation in from der lino who says hellfire said this not like come on now
How I said that was the only time I raided mid don't do that. What?
We want our tails of hellfire citadel. We were there. Well, just wasn't what we were there was the only time he did
Started
No, that's when I stopped over the limit. Yeah, that's Jordan Jordan starting region. That's it. Yeah
where she was picking up one quest at a time.
Never leveled a character.
Never once leveled a character.
She missed out on such a wonderful experience.
But that is kind of absurd, right?
It is crazy. It's so weird.
I can't even fathom that
because it never occurred to me
until she told me that.
That's probably a ton of players
who play World of Warcraft
who have never leveled a character.
Sound off in the chat.
I'm really curious how many people
How many people have never leveled a fresh character before?
Ooh, maybe we could get that as a poll.
That'd be kind of cool to see.
They'll lie.
Oh, they'll lie.
They'll lie every like, oh.
Oh, a level 10.
A level that I bought just 50.
Although, we did have a drama time story recently.
There's a guy who had spent thousands of dollars per month
on character boosts.
Why?
Because he then deleted the characters
when he was bored of them and bought another boost
and ended up cycling around to review the same classes.
Unaware that he could have multiple classes?
He didn't like his character selection screen having multiple characters that he wasn't currently playing so he would delete them, boost a new one, play that for a bit, get bored of it, delete it and boost another one.
That's the reason that these boosts are even available man.
That is pretty spooky.
I think it was two and a half thousand dollars a month for almost a year he was spending on World of Warcraft character boosts.
I don't know what to say.
I've got nothing, you know that whole old sort of adage of you've got nothing nice to say.
Just don't say anything at all.
I've never heard of that before.
What a bore of that!
Oh yeah, that does sound rough. That sounds like a huge way.
All I'm hearing is you guys are too poor to keep your character selection screen clean.
I can't tell you server for Christ's sake, just hide it that way.
There you go. Oh, four.
Can we trust this?
Never, ever level the character...
What we're saying is, have you never leveled the character from one?
Because obviously Lola has leveled like her current character in a new expansion
But never from one started the game got a boost with it
Which everybody gets when you get the new expansion and just boosted and stayed there never saw the early game
Even after afterwards like went back and made a knot like John's never done that either
She has more characters. I mean she's boosted them all. Oh damn. I mean maybe I'm wrong there because I don't
I can't remember the last time I did level a character from one though
What was the last time you did that? Like a real like just a fresh one?
Panda
Because no, I've had to
Demon Hunter started at 70 I think. Yep
And
Evoker started late. Yeah, so the last one had to do was monk
I've been leveling some characters that are that I did event at one point level from level one
But I just haven't played for a long long time to the like level 30 or something. It's like, oh
I really fancy playing this class that role was a little sketch beer as
I was rolled to get in line with this, but there was two down again the phase one providing a little bit of difficulty
I just I feel like they changed something for some reason
Because it's that it's exactly the same point when we know there's a huge dot on the raid and the webs come out
They're not surprised by this damage intake
but it is
For the last couple of polls after they've been doing some wine time
They've been struggling a little bit here, but I failed to see that the times of this fight what they couldn't be using anymore
more. They have got bloodlust in order to get through the shield as if they do want to
keep playing but we just have Fraggo get dragged into the boss so they are going to break the
shield maybe they are just quickly testing something that they just developed. No they
are just running into it. Odd little bit of prog here, obviously dips do happen so
I don't know if that is something that is discoverable via logs. I will take a look
but I'm willing to bet that they got clipped by a rolling bot.
Yeah, I'm wondering about the mid.
The healing and mid hasn't changed in those times.
Hasn't changed?
OK, interesting.
Yeah, I'm being told if you wish
just to rate your favorite raid boss, feel free.
I will tell you the correct opinion based on your suggestions.
So Mike's just going to hate on all of your stuff.
No, no, there are some tremendous raid bosses out there,
but you can be wrong.
I've actually mostly been the unsung heroes of raid bosses.
I don't think it needs to be giga hard or whatever
to be great or bad. Like sometimes like XT is a great example of that. It's not super hard
by any means, but what absolutely tremendously fun boss fight.
Oh, right. I think it's just really great boss fight. It's, it's, you know, it's boss number
technically it's boss two, but it can also be boss four. It's just a really, really
fun boss.
Let's see here with Fraggo. Oh, just got one tapped by the AOE.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're usually they're covered there. We saw this
with the Harkley's yesterday, but his personal wasn't up close and no on those lines, very curious.
But yeah, Unsung Hero, I'm very interested to hear. Like if you got an Unsung Hero with Boss Fight,
Jesse, it was like, it's not a hardist, it's not an emboss, but what a tremendously fun fight.
Yeah, I'm trying to remember some of those. Hands and friends I would put in.
Hands and friends was very good. I also thought that, I know that you don't like this fight
in Black Rift Factory as well, but with Operator Tho Guy, but it was very cute.
In terms of the, like, long dance traveling through, there wasn't many choices and stuff,
Maybe you did have to send little groups off to go and do things and the thematics of that fight
I thought word
I wish I loved I wish I liked it
What were you playing in that tick some might?
I was playing combat rogue, which was great like for my min maxing was great because you could really delay
This is super nerd stiff, but you could delay your combat insight
So at the time combat played had a passive called combat insight that went from green to yellow to red
You did maximum damage at red
Yeah your sinister striking took you through the stages of combat insight so what you could do
Was take it to yellow and then you could stop using some striking use relentless strike instead
Which didn't come by insight so the second of the trains would pour out of people
You could tricks one sinister strike into red combat insight and pop that with killing spleen stuff
You would do millions of damage
It was it was the only way you could rank one on that fight
It just felt so satisfying to nail it and get it right.
So on the fight itself, there's a lot I'm in maxing for me to do.
So I enjoyed that, but you know, I don't like where we have to play as one person.
I'm not a fan of those kind of fights.
That's absolutely fair.
Yeah.
We have got some more donations, so I did want to get to them.
This one was from Delino, who was talking about how I said that we didn't finish
the actual thing.
And we got to shave that pool happen.
It was fine.
We had a $5 donation in from Delino.
He says, how I said that was the only time I rated Mythic.
I joined the second team of Stark Industries and cleared everything up to Tyrant Valhari
where I had to stop and focus on exams but they downed Gorphine pre-nerf, it was very
hype.
There we go.
I felt like there were three mythic raid teams in Stark Industries at the time.
It was a very difficult fight Gorphine pre-nerf.
That's what I was told.
While I was playing Borderlands 2 on my couch with a baby on me.
We've got a five dollar donation in from Cedric who says Mike I just wanted to tell
you that you're a moderately decent lad even though you are British.
There you go.
Well I thank you Cedric, there's a mighty fine quip video out there and I thank you
and see you at Miss Bettyworth this afternoon.
Of course the scones will be on the yield.
We've got a ten dollar donation in from Rory who says despair stream.
One time I travelled to a different server in 14 to visit Preach in person and he
said my Osmo mount was rubbish. Okay, bye. There you go. Mike, not only harassing people
on the stream, but also off stream. Doesn't sound like me. Oh, got a $1 donation in from
Hellfire Citadel Connoisseur. He says, Alex, isn't one of your favorite fights, Star Orga?
Yeah, I actually really like that fight as well. It was, I don't think it's a very good fight
to have in a video game, but it was once again incredibly satisfying to get down.
Great kill. Not a huge fan of it though.
It was one of those one-shot mechanic ideas, just get tedious very quickly.
Yeah, they really do.
It was fun to try and work out exactly how to do it, but there were certain points where you're putting your hair out,
like, oh, why is everyone playing so bad and then you decided to just troll for 30 minutes?
Yeah, you just lose interest when it's a case of like, oh, this looks really...
It's like when we cast the curse things. Honestly, we come back in,
Evan looks awesome, the guys are playing out of their mind, we just immediately wipe it like,
I should have just not said anything.
Ah, so we got another five dollar donation in from LazyPanda, who says, Mike, listen
to me.
I understate it, I understand even, I do, I know you won't be swayed from your course,
but if there really is no other way to resolve this, then face me, not as a machine, but
as the real you.
It's quite threatening.
And then it says, Mike!
It's a PS Eden Savage when Eden Savage when yeah, when are we doing well after well when this race is over?
So, I don't know 20 25
Jesse John come do Eden Savage with us join us Jordan's in yep, so be the four of us so far to get Malkin and stuff
It'll be fun. Yeah, we got a
One dollar donation in from awkward fan
It's a shout out to the crew and players who are doing an amazing job
I want to add in on a favorite boss, and I feel like raiding hard mode
Mimeron when I was a current when it was current would have been amazing. Also, how about a dono goal to make Mike cast a pull in the PvP voice?
What's the PvP voice?
Yeah, I need to hear this now. Just a little flavour of the PvP voice. Me? Why do you even pull him while they got no cooldowns?
You just trash me coming round here ready to fight me when you've got all these abilities
You've got way too many abilities and way too many hit points. You're cheating your stupid spider
It's full Manchester. It's literally what my Manchester childhood sounded like that also sounds like a lot of people
I knew growing up say mate and pal a lot pal not so much, but mate and brown me whatnot nice garbage
We're back in on another pool though as it seems that echo have managed
Do you want to come back to remember up? We'll get there. Yes. Let's see if echo they've obviously done more wine time
that is why we've got our wine time display up on the table here to change.
You have more things in Phase 1. I am amazed how much messing around they're doing in Phase 1
to really kind of get it just so it's doable. Perfect. I wonder if it's not necessarily Phase 1
that they're making any changes to but more, oh by the way we've come up with a new cook for
Phase 3 when we get there. They keep building more and more things. At the moment Phase 1
Honestly, it feels like unless it's just CD stuff, which doesn't require the entire group to sit there for 20 seconds
and for, you know, 10 minutes in order for you to say, well, Frago, maybe we should move the old scales or whatever.
Like, no, just have someone assign that to you. You press the button when you press the button, right?
It to me seems like they had a grand strategy, grand strategy talk, which is hard enough for me to say.
Talking of talking but the
They've had these sort of long talks in which they are discussing something a bit more meaningful than how to do phase one
Which they already know very easily how to do most of our phase one problems right now are we're getting hit by the webs
So unless they found a new way of dealing with these webs, there's nothing really else to say about this phase
It honestly feels like it's entirely possible. You know how Roger is when he sees something
He's like wait a minute if we do this but the webs are always free
Uh, you know there are a lot of those moments where they just spot something or somebody notices something on one pole
And they're like, huh? I mean you guys noticed that if we do this this and this it's actually like I
Or somebody usually what it is actually I'm wording this incorrectly, but I'm sure this is more relatable to many people
I never get webs
Somebody just says something like that. It's like honestly I in all these polls the webs are never a problem for me
It's like why?
Why are they never a problem for you? He's saying really never a problem like nope
Legitimately never a problem. And then they check it like huh
Interesting it's based on where you go because you know can we bait this a little bit can we do something on those lines where we can actually
Control this so it could be all those kinds of things
But it could also be something simple like swapping around cooldowns is they are
I don't want to say it
They're fine
Well
That's expected damage. It's just terrifying damage
that's all it is as you see that they are certainly trying to min-max exactly how much damage they're taking
One thing you're going to see is that they do have these little circles around themselves
But they're not too worried if they overlap briefly each of these circles is only doing around 400k damage every second and a half
So, you know, you have three people on each other all taking 1.2 million. That's better than getting hit by one of the
Orbs that are going out from the boss any of these slimes as well as getting obviously gripped into the boss
that will one-shot you as they're making their way through. That was the final
drag from the boss in this phase. We've only got 5% left on the shield. They're
going to time it out a little bit. They could have done maybe a little bit more
min-maxing but they didn't need to worry too much as we are going into phase two.
Two ads are going to be sporting on this main platform area and one of the
main changes on Mythic just in case you're unaware is that you see these
portals at the far edges of the room which have normally just been there
as like a little you know animation to show you where the ads might have
come from. Now we need to send players through them every 10 seconds.
Lay on hands is a good spell. It certainly is. Yeah. So basically we need to send people
through the portal every 10 seconds, otherwise the portal gets really angry and one shots
us. But when you go through, you get a debuff that needs to spelling, the spawn screw everywhere.
It's a bad time all around, but it's something that you need to do. You can see the little
cast bar above the shadow gate right there, so a player will be going through disabling
that cast, and then it will just start casting it again. And that will keep going
until the platform is clear, which so far they're doing all right. They're still
to deal with the dragons and on mythic that's going to spawn webs that lovely blink there from
whole full time it perfectly with the dragon so he could move through that pool cleanly now we're
going to the scary part we're up to platform two this is the hardest platform i don't see it yet
there it is okay we're all waiting for you to pay better point we do not bloodlust this but they
are setting that bloodlust again uh we can see reveres going down they're getting absolutely
annihilated went from 100% to zero as the heel is trying to catch up. The
worshipper is about to go down so we're not going to get that cataclysmic spell
going off. They have to hold on for a little bit longer as Narko has already
gone down and they have two combat resins. They can read both of them. In fact
they've just done that exactly that. The entire raid is up on their feet as
they're moving up to this simpler platform three. Canex doing his usual
job and checking out that four four holes. Well the floor is no longer
There's I think he ripped threat from all of those little skitter ads that do put a very very nasty bite on you increasing the damage
You take now right now taking pretty much double damage, and you can see his health going so so low
But fortunately the skitters are nearly down
The portal isn't fed maybe that was canyx is one that you need to do at that point
Maybe not either way did lead to an unfortunate white at a point
We're really it feels like we should be avoiding those with that many people alive. Yeah, it's something through yo
have they tried that?
Oh man that was good though it was nice to see them get out phase one because that's been
a little while where we've been kind of stuck for a little bit.
Oh hopefully that's not indicative of the mood in the room right now I don't know if we
can maybe have a little cycle through the play of poms to see if everyone is looking
a little bit down in the dumps hopefully not we can't really afford to know the
the wrong style now. Well,
get caught up by a perfecto and nice beams always having the
good. Who wants to prove they all want to see.
They want to be a little cup of tea or do as a proof effect
out. I love that they are terms of Victoria near a mind.
The only voice I've got my suddenly becomes like peeky
blind.
So far, it looks like they're going to continue on slamming through it's good that we got that to that point, but obviously something's been cooked up here and I feel so in the dark it's painful as to what's taking them so long when we're not seeing very obvious
that we got that to that point but obviously something's being cooked up here and I feel
so in the dark it's painful as to what's taking them so long when we're not seeing very obvious
changes to what they're doing in terms of moving bloodlust and increasing the changing the movements.
Yeah there's so many small little tweaks that they're making they can be quite difficult for us
here sitting on the couch and even on the desk to be able to sort of decipher. I wonder if
possible, maybe it would be wise to have a little bit of a listen in with Wave, and at
which point we'll be able to have a little bit of an understanding through their comms.
Apparently they're fully muted. Ha! Damn.
I hope Ful does look fully muted.
Yeah. It's not that we're in a safe space in terms of we can't listen to it, it's
just no one's talking.
You gotta point it out, Al. Ironic name.
Oh.
Oh my god, do that.
No, he's spying on me.
I don't think they're in despair guys.
No, they shouldn't be.
This is an exciting part.
Yes, they've got a bit of a rough patch,
but it's not exactly insurmountable, isn't it?
It's got to, you know, get their cells together,
work out the small little changes that they've got to do,
and then they'll be absolutely fine.
But for this upcoming poll then,
I can certainly do a little drink,
so maybe we're going to hop into a little break.
If the comms come back, we will have a listen in.
But if not, in the next poll,
we'll have a listen in.
back we will have a listen in but if not enjoy the cool music we'll be back in a few moments back
those beans blades under you now i got obelisk i got obelisk next you go obelisk
watch the blobs watch it vehicles ready to run soon two one running blades under you now
thanks Fred and blades under you again now watch the blocks now and blades
under you now and close nice blades coming now be positioning look at the
Marks running over in 2, 1, run, late Sunday now.
So 5 stack at Ogress.
Yeah.
Blobs coming.
That's fancy.
Push the Blobs and 5 stack here in 3, 2, 1, woop.
How are you?
That's crazy.
You keep going.
Poland 3.
Sorry.
I really had 3 deaths there.
I really didn't think we would.
Yeah, there's an anchor and a roaster, I think, with one death, but...
We need the slums, I have a thing in my day, we're offering extra slums.
What is happening here? Everyone is playing for 100 pulls, and then every time I don't watch...
Okay.
I die because I don't want to die, so I'm going to heal someone, and I forgot to press my stone, but I killed him.
I don't know.
If you might say in general, if everyone just sticks to the plan, it's really not that hard, yeah?
But we're getting quite stuck in the oven.
Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the race to world first one boss remains just a few percent to go to kill it sounds free, right?
Absolutely not
Difficult fights blizzard has ever put together is what stands between echo and victory in this race to world first
I'm in a bit of a rough time of it for the last hour or so
Change some things around it's created some more problems in early phases the guys desperately need to be doing phase three over and over and over
over and over again, but right now we're trying to look into phase two over and over again.
It might also be that the things that have changed have now been implemented and are
fine, but it might just be a little bit of tilt, not being horrible.
What happened?
This tilt does happen.
We are all human after all.
We are three weeks in.
And we are three weeks in.
We are three weeks in of 12 to 13 hour raid days.
So yeah, it can happen a rough hour.
We've seen it on every single guild stream.
So maybe that's what's going on.
Oh yeah.
Just a little bit of like...
Yeah.
They were doing, I shouldn't say this, but I'm gonna,
they were doing Bod review.
Roger was doing a spectacular presentation.
Of course.
He's giving it the full beans.
You know what I mean?
He's giving all this.
And I looked around the room and the players are like,
they're not even looking at it.
Like you can see they've got the Bod up on their screen
and they're going through it step by step.
And Roger and Mires are talking through
and the guy's like, oh my God,
just let's get to where we need to be.
This phase one crap is old by about 172 tries.
So, you know, let's move on and get there.
Oh, you know it's going good though and nice memes has found a new meme that he enjoys
He's a big smiles on his face. That's what we want to see, you know
Oh, obviously last hour or so haven't been necessarily the best
But it can be improved and they know that they can do it
We've seen their God pull out of nowhere going into that last phase yesterday
Pushing so far into it out of like to the point where they didn't even have
Their big wigs or that he'd be even just like a ready and good to go. You know what I mean?
They didn't have their boss time is ready in any way shape of form
I love this play. It's so cute, eh?
Blur into off the platform to buy his melee friends a little bit more space and dash him
back on, so that the explosion actually happens off the platform just to buy that extra few
yards of space for everybody else. That's the micro-management that's happening here
to make this fight even remotely possible. I actually read a really cool thread. Surprisingly,
it was on Reddit, where the guys were like, who are also in mythic raiders looking
this fight going. No, thanks.
It seems insane. Yeah, but we
can't overstate how difficult
this fight is and how impressive
it is that the guilds are getting
as far as they are as consistently
as they were like liquid yesterday
towards the end of their day.
We're doing incredible pulls.
Very, very impressive stuff.
So of course, Echo also been
managing to do that a little bit
earlier today. They hit a little
bit of slump, but hopefully that
slump has come to an end.
We're able to push on through.
Interesting scene souls point of
point of view that you might have a quickly pop back over towards soul.
This point of view, you see that little marker in the middle.
Do you know having a week or other?
Do you ever do it?
Just exactly where you stood exactly.
So on fights like this, where they sort of really precise positioning is going
to be important for the blades as an example.
It just about to come up.
It can make it a lot easier to see exactly where you are when there is.
How can I say it nicely?
A lot of things happening on the screen.
It can be super helpful.
I mean, just this Harkens back.
I use the word Harken there.
I haven't used it since I haven't used it since last it
It does harker back to what people used to do on games like golden I know that's like literally put a dot on on the TV
That is it's old tech that is still in existence today in video games because it is good tech
What am I worried about easy dude here's the worst overlap of this entire phase about to happen now
where they're all going to chain blow up and hop hop hop hop all the way into position nice
I was going to say how's he going to survive this he's going to survive with turtle very fair
allowing that turtle that is very good of him so keep that turtle up for the first bit of
raid damage coming in there because it does so so much and hunters are relatively survivable
nowadays but there is so much damage in here that they need to have them their
They're defensive every single bit of damage during this overlap, every single dragon that
apparently his pet's not attacking right now, sad times, not sure if that week or it's not
working or not.
Yeah, I wonder if it's because of the shield, I wonder if the registers is not like, oh yeah
maybe, just so his pet's not attacking.
But BM being a wonderful spectator to be playing here with all the movement necessary
to maintain uptime constantly despite the fact this fight never has you stood still
practically.
The shield is down, nice.
They did have to use the Comma as their may seem to go down, but hopefully they can do this weird moment where everything like compared to phase ones like ending there where the room is literally just a wall zone.
This looks all free and it's absolutely not.
It really is.
And there's tons that they need to be getting through here, especially with the mythic mechanic where you have to be going through the portal to calm it down as it seems to be wanting to explode every 10 seconds by passing through.
You do make it so the portal is going to chill out.
So you see players very frequently switching sides as the first out of four sets of ads have been completed heading over to the first platform
Still very lethal. We could definitely see deaths, but out of all of the platforms
Probably one of the chiller ones the second platform certainly causing the most issues using bloodlust on that platform
Even now, but they've got to keep up the pace. You can see on the boss frames there underneath Queen Azshara
you can, uh, not a jar, answer
right, the two devotion, uh, devoted
worshipers getting that cast off in 25
seconds, the raid will die. They've got
a sprint, oh yeah, they're heading up the
platform and you can see the shielded
ad there that they're going to be
killing off as soon as possible, breaking
through that shield so that they can
stop that cast because otherwise they
will die, bloodlust has been popped and
you're going to be seeing Kanax going
through a portal here. Yeah, he's
going to move off to the side, that
gloom torch ticking for millions of
damage, uh, and then he's going to
get dispelled, moves out of it
quickly not overlapping with the webs that we saw him dying to earlier. Remember these
webs that the guys are dropping on the floor. More and more area denial as this fight goes
on as platform two is demolished by Echo here. Now they do have to be very careful. These
little smally ads are far more dangerous than you realize. They are stacking dots
on the tanks. We go to Neres very quickly. You'll see it gets huge amounts of stacks.
See it's 17, 18, 20. You're seeing that top right of the screen and on the left
in the middle of bonus damage taken. The smallies are taking down.
But this is looking better. I'm not calling it yet because one portal failure can send this to the absolute nether realms of fail
We saw that last time when we came in but they're off to phase three
Echo is back all alive with a combat resin hand now last time we were here
I'll they had some set up strategy for that did it quite work some miscue could go back to Canucks actually
And see if he's going to be doing that their souls as we predicted he would yeah
So we're going to be having a bunch of these little small spiders spawning from the tank debuffer that
You will need to make sure they don't reach the boss because they do an unbelievable amount of damage
It is survivable if one or two hit but the rate damage that comes in shortly afterwards is very likely to finish them off
So here comes the infest cast onto now going incredibly low
But still going to be healthy enough in order to survive the first set of ads have spawned
And ursels there make sure they're both not even used yet
So we're like there it is just to buy the guys more time just to these ads are so fast
But it's one very very high Al. Yeah, it looks like they have managed to take it down
And you're gonna get the three acolytes here these ads in the middle the ones on the little webs
Do need to be having their shields broken through before you can interrupt their cast
But this is looking pretty tidy so far keep interrupting as we're going on and when they die
They will be spawning souls that we need to take through the portals that have literally just spawned
to get back on the platform
there because otherwise he
would have fallen to his doom.
The ads have been picked. The
individual souls have been
picked up. We're going to be
traveling through the portal
and then you've got to spread
out because this does a crazy
crazy amount of damage and it
takes up a lot of space so
far. So good though, Mike. Yeah
echo is proceeding a really
solid place. This is all
information that they've had
in the past. This is going
to come down to area
management time management.
But what we're looking for
is overcoming before ads
Robin come down to the
overcoming B4 ads. Robin's gone down, the Commares was available to get him back up. Now has that
caused a disruption in the ad spawn there, kind of on top of the boss with Robin going down there
from that huge hit of the infest. Lovely in control, Toledo. It was really good. What actually
went wrong there though, and it's such a shame that now was responsible for picking up one of
the essences. And it might be worth going through how this mechanic works a little bit to
kind of describe how it went so wrong. So, oh, we can replace the dispatch now is what I
I think yeah, there we go. Well, that's it. There we go. Um, and so it's definitely wine time. Oh, it will be wine time a little bit here for sure. There we go.
Well, that's it. So.
Add style the ones in the middle, they spawn up, got a break through their shield interrupt and when they die, they drop an essence. And when the boss does that nova that creeps in from the side, that wave that comes into water, any of the essences of souls as we kind of referring to them as
any of those souls are hit by the wave you will wipe so instead what you gotta do you gotta pick up the
soul by running into it and then you can go through the portal but after that you get those aoe's around
you when those aoe's detonate on the ground they will force you to drop the um soul into the ground
and put a giant bone on you yeah it's a 500 damage increase from this so instead of doing one
million damage per second it'll do five mil to you four minutes i believe it lasts it lasts for
four minutes so basically once you picked up one soul and then dropped it on the ground
afterwards that's it unfortunately now was responsible for one of those souls so he picked
it up went through the portal all happy well great dropped it on the ground he decided to pick it back up
yeah so unfortunately now i'm running back over so he gave himself a five million dots which is
going to last forever so he just melted just as meres was getting the tank buster that he
needs to take out the group so the ads then spawned on top of the boss and all exploded there
So I'm not sure if it's because the positioning in which the souls were supposed to be placed was off
Or it was a new position that they haven't tried before. So it's just one of those learning pain things
I would definitely not say, oh, you know robbing trolled or anything like that
Hell no they've had to do so so much on this fight
It's an incredibly difficult part for the tanks in order to micromanage
Especially if they're dropping off a soul then taunting the boss and dragging it in the correct position ready for the next set of ads
XYZ blah blah blah, you know, it's a lot for
to be doing there. So running over one of the essences, one of these souls by accident
and getting absolutely slammed by it. Unfortunate but understandable. Yep, totally. You can see
as well Jinji bypassing using the portal so that doesn't mean he does not get the circular
view as well. Cutting down the amount of circles that go beyond there. They're much
larger than they are in Heroic and this fight is all about area denial from phase
one and phase two and in phase three. Is you going to see that? So you can see
look at that shot. It just does so much damage. You can see the essence spawning at the edge of the room there. Then of course, Mara's getting the deep map on him. Someone please talk this boss. I beg. Someone talk this boss. That would be the only thing that could be possible. But I think now.
Oh, Mara's tried to save it as well by ringing on top of himself to knock those adds away as they spawn, but they literally spawn on top of Ansarek making that unsalvageable.
a damn shame. But again, coming down to the fact that they have a phase three plan in place. That's why Roger was up all night.
So he's running on about three to four hours of sleep for the last couple of days while he's been working on this.
So there'll no doubt be a very strict map they're trying to follow, which they haven't actually done before.
That's what the aim of this morning was to do. And you know, it's okay. Maybe the essence is in the right place.
Yeah. Being able to control where we want these souls to go is going to be incredibly important.
We have three at the moment and you can cut through them wherever someone might be able to do a hero play and grab them.
But later we're going to have seven that we need to be dealing with.
And then after that we're going to be having, what, 12?
12. So being able to figure out a system where we can place these essences in a way that is accessible to those who want to pick them up,
but is not in the way for those who want to avoid them.
And in a part of the phase which is very chaotic, it's going to be key right there.
obviously some part of that system broke down because otherwise we wouldn't have
had an accidental pickup. Two interesting things to note on that note which you
just said as you said we're gonna have three then seven and twelve at the point
we have twelve only ten players won't have the debuff that make you take 1000%
additional damage from that dot so two people have to take the dot the
essence while also having the debuff to multiply by a thousand yeah though
So of course, Robin did die there. He also demonstrated that it's survivable, potentially.
We were thinking that it was going to be much, much more damage than it was.
It was only ticking on him, I say only, but it was only ticking on him for around 1.5 million
damage per second.
That's not bad.
On a tank.
That's doable.
Without externals.
Without externals, without huge, without it being planned, without it being super
mitigated. So making that final round potentially doable.
Yeah.
If you pick your targets correctly, you rotate spell warding perhaps into external sometimes, that is potentially doable.
You can have a time dilation from one of our evokers, you can have Guardian of the Spirit, things that increase the healing done.
That's way better than we thought it was, so they did get a proof of concept there that it is potentially not the hard wall that it might otherwise have been.
And then another issue, we now have two pulls where the spiders get eaten, and if you only have one or two spiders, you get a little boom, and it looks good.
but the boss is buffed by 50% which eats one of those spiders making everything thereafter
one char territory. Ah Kaivesa has returned. Ah it seems like a little bit of a missed
knowledge from him so thank you very much from that over on the max row analysis desk there Jenny
Jenny. Jenny. Thank you. Thank you. That was a mixture of Jeth, Tatlby enjoying that.
Jenny, Benny and Lenny and he's got small feet. Oh my. Lenny of these little toes.
Yep sorry about that, Genny.
No problem, NG. I'm still Jenny from the block.
One of the block of Missouri.
The one who's block.
The infamous blocks of Missouri.
They've only got one. Best pull of the day though for Echo Guys.
That is what we want to see as they believe that Mirrors is swapping some assignments around.
So they did pick up some information, which is what we want to see.
There's nothing worse than when they're having wine time and nothing's happening whatsoever.
But they are moving assignments around I could see that happening on our overview of all the players
So phenomenal phenomenal change of pace from echo just what they needed
To get bit more invested into this because they do not want to see phase one anymore
They have to see it, but they want it to be brainless off and just win and then get into the good stuff
Oh, yeah, so let's more of that please echo. That's what we want to see here
The face suit was pretty good as well
We did have a few deaths, but the fact that we were able to get through it in a way
it didn't feel super panicked. It murdered platform 2. Platform 2 evaporated. Yeah, absolutely annihilated. It was awesome to see.
But yeah, you can tell by the way the players play when they're starting to get comfortable. Just the less like sort of
erratic movement going on. Just like, oh, of course there's a dragon at this point.
Oh, I have a debuff. I always go here. Making it routine is going to be so important for adding to the comfort.
When you're comfortable with something, it's a lot easier just to be able to get through it.
you can really focus all of your mental sort of like mental batteries or spending that energy
in the last phase where it really really is going to be needed. It's extraordinary what
repetition could do for you even to these horrendous rock boss fights is how okay it feels
like we have that with Iraq phase one if you remember you had counting backwards and forwards
knockbacks pools down you had swarming into the boss like loads of things happening
do you include the second phase with knocking all those out ridiculous levels of cc coordination
but once you've done it like you know 50 60 times it's like okay I dropped my
cc here I know exactly where to stand I stand here because the ads come here I
press my typhoon or whatever it might be and yeah it's fine so that's what
they're looking for here like say a little stumble for last hour hopefully
that's given them a little bit of a ginger shot injection to move forward
and keep going here not I think the players are probably hoping for now it's
too many breaks please. They do have to change things when they find mistakes that has to happen
because Echo has never been a fan of like let's keep pulling while we change it. They prefer to
pull when the change is ready so everybody knows what they need to do which is what they're
implementing right now but we do want to give a big shout out of course to MaxRoll not something
that got so much uses them in the MaxRoll analysis desk during that heroic and delve week
But now as you can see where Jesse has been on that desk for like 10 plus hours a day
I think on and off he lives there now. I'm pretty sure Jesse is sleeping back
Yeah, right underneath
Providing all this analysis tools for so we can bring you up to date on exactly what's happening
The damage numbers the guys are figuring in cooldowns and swaps and how deadly some of these aspects of the fire
So big shoutouts to Maxwell Farmer. I don't know very useful site as well
of course all of the guides written by the players as well so if you do indeed you can see
every single player who has written a guide there. If you go and check out their guides it
directly supports the players as well. So go and check them out some of your favorite players
writing some incredibly useful guides for us to enjoy. One of my favorite parts is the
boss by boss breakdown. I know about you I'm one of those kind of guys especially when I'm not
super used to when like in a new expansion of stuff I'm like oh this is the raid build
And I just use on every fight we know how variable like the demands are throughout this raid
Especially towards the last four bosses where it goes super a way into super single target to like a bit of a weird cleave
It's like do you really know what your best build is for the silken court?
Not really. Oh, so, you know, having a
Sport now I did it from my death night is they've literally broke it down so you can just export. Oh, this is the
all Drax build okay and this is this one and what I found is that the things I
needed to hear if I needed an interrupt and I needed to work there it is it's
this one and then I swap to the next one and make it work backwards and forwards
from here so it's been really nice I did know it's actually Frago has moved to
devastation now yes he's been dead for this entire fight I think it comes
down to the one element of it at least is the deep breath which is a
fundamental part of your build now beforehand it was kind of like a fun
It was a bit odd to use. It was the arcane, the fire times, the deep breath was a bit weird, but now Scale Commander, it's like one of your biggest sources of damage.
And it's really fun because you can steer it as you go around, but it also makes you immune to roots, and you don't rely on using it at the correct time like Org does.
If you just kind of send your breath of Aeons, he says, at any random point, then it's not going to get a very good use,
And you need people to be able to make the most out of the buffs that you give, because otherwise you're kind of trolling.
So, yeah, he has way more flexibility now in terms of being able to do his deep breath whenever they like.
Also doing incredibly good damage at very important points, because I was asking how Dev was playing out.
And they're like, although it might not be like a slammer on the damage meters right now, as in like topping every phase and all that kind of things,
we have the damage where we want it. They're very, very good at these select points.
They're really, really helping us carry through these difficult times.
So an excellent thing to have available. And I think it was actually Fragler who wrote the death dot.
There you go. I've been using it. I've actually been improving as well when I was using dev week one.
It was very sad, but I got stressed out about it.
He really was because I actually made it finish and he was really putting loads of effort into
getting it right. He was like, oh my God, I want it to be good. You know, it's going under our name.
In fact, the fact I was talking about it on the couch yesterday is the coming instance raise.
They had so much work to do. Not only the 16 couchs, they have a lot of stuff to do.
really kind of a stressful time for Echo since the wall within has launched and now kind of settle
down because all they have to focus on now is killing the map. I'll kill him the Queen and making
it work as Mirrors is still changing up assignments. I can see it there. He's mixing people around.
He's changing things. So much micro. If I'd like to do the next point is just follow one
person like we did with Sol there because I think only then will you really grasp how much
individual work is happening here to make this phase one work because when you
see it as sort of an amalgam of swapping POVs it probably looks relatively
simplistic but if you follow what one person has to do like canyx for example
in this fight it's so much perfect here here here this has to work you know to
get through just P1 let alone P2 you know despite the older armor canyons.
You are entirely right so as soon as we do get into another pool we'll be
jumping straight into that but I thought now would be a good opportunity to
catch up on some of the donations you guys are sending in. I want some boss ones.
Give me boss ones. Give me boss ones. A two dollar donation in from Dave who says
how about Mythic Archimonde in Hellfire Sister? I didn't do it. My
favorite boss in my favorite raid. Did you do it? I did do Mythic Archimonde.
What did you do? I thought it was hilarious that there was that radar
that everyone used. I say everyone, Paragon infamously didn't use it and
They look so pristine. Yeah, the rock chaos management was so good. So good
But um, you know, it was fun to use that bit of tech before it got removed from the game
Because it was so busted and Blizzard were like, nope, you can't have that
They just completely nuked the radars from orbit. So now that they there's like some small functionality in terms of like
It's still that yeah, you can't do the radar anymore. It's nowhere near as good. Um, so yeah, no mythic Archimonde was
pretty good it was a very long fight did happen you feel like only phase where
you went downstairs and it was actually quite heavily mythic only face I was
gonna say did you feel everything leading to that was kind of just a waste of
time you know when they have an extensive mythic only phase if you kind
of feel like the normal normal style phase is actually just kind of like
care go home yes all like bull crap until you actually get to the end
yeah I remember feeling that the first two phases once we had got them
down you were just going through the motions and they were quite easily like
you could screw them up. I had the job of collecting all the fire I know that I
screwed that up all the months so sorry. Yeah it was it is not necessarily it was
okay for what it was but it was mainly getting to that last phase and we was
using like you had all the infernal dropping down the RNG and that was
pretty crazy and the RNG that was another fight where a weak aura was
disgusting because you had the you had to you had 4 debuffs and you had to
put them into four different teams you were already in your little four
teams, but then you had to assign the debuffs amongst them. You had no time to do it. It had
to be pretty much done by a weak aura. Getting that to work back then, that sounds so easy now,
but back then that was like witchcraft. It was so confusing. It's like, what is this? We need like a
while in trouble. We need like a mother brainweaker and all this sort of stuff.
Is that what it needed? The double weak aura Wami?
Back then it did, but I'm pretty sure, you know, with the modern way that we look at weak
aura, as you'd be able to get it sorted in a much more simple way. But yeah, no,
It was an alright fight. I enjoyed it. It was not too bad. It was nice having the only face. It was pretty cool
So thank you for that day. I didn't do this. It was
A donation man unbelievable
We got a $1 donation from
Jadumi he says not gonna lie my favorite flight
I think during mythic prog has to be the football boss dark inquisitors zanish
Love playing football and seeing the despair in my guilty's eyes on the third
on the third bowler's job what the hell is wrong with you that fight was very
interesting no I think it was a cool little gimmick it was yeah it didn't
need to be a one-shot death though that's I would have preferred it if you
did the ball right the boss got a damage but damage on oh but if you didn't do
it you didn't wipe but you lost you had to do a lot more work you know
something like that it could be like it instead of it doing like a lethal like
say to your health ball is like a million instead of it just doing a two
it does 2 million damage over 5 seconds so you could like oh crap we screwed this up stack up healing cooldowns go go go
It might lead to some stuff where you just don't interact with if that boss didn't have the football have nothing else
Oh, it was a garbage, but it had interrupt checker. That was kind of it's
Outside of the it was a cute fight. It was cute
I would I don't know I
It's one of those where it's like this should be savable and not just like the three people are it's dead, right?
I mean, we even saw in the race to world first when I believe this method I
I think they got the world first or second on it.
Logok, rightfully so, was like,
I don't feel comfortable doing this.
It was his turn.
It was like, someone step in, I'm just not happy.
I'm not feeling like that level of confidence,
which was absolutely the right call
because it's better to say,
look, I'm not feeling confident about doing this.
Some of them just step in if you can,
if you feel comfortable and someone did.
But that's how stressful that mechanic was
on those few players.
Oh yeah.
Certainly in the world first scenario,
but you can imagine it in a lot of guilds.
You probably got one or two players who were like,
yeah, I want to do it, awesome.
I think everybody else is like,
I do not want to be responsible for the rest of the entire race.
I think you need to have 12 people getting involved in that.
Is it not three at times?
So nine?
Three and there was four.
Four over four.
No, there's five overall,
but the first could do the fifth or something stupid.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but I remember doing that.
It was very boring for those who weren't involved
in the football mechanic at all
because you were literally just waiting for your team
to stop driving.
I think I had interrupt seven in that, Ray Combe.
That's something like that.
You're boomkin, right?
It was an important one, like you were like, if everything's gone horribly wrong, how might you...
I had like four, but it was really far away. I remember having to trot my fat turkey arse over the room
and to do my interrupts from miles away and then come back to the fight later on.
Yeah.
It was one of those jobs. Echo is into another pool, whatever changes they've implemented have happened.
We'll get back to your donations in a little second with your favourite or even worst bosses.
Yeah, I just didn't see.
Do keep them coming in. We've got some great ones coming up that I'm looking forward to reading
that I've already had a little pre-read of.
So do send them in.
It's excellent stuff, but yes,
we are gonna be focusing on the prog for now
as Echo have been working diligently
as much as I can to get through this phase cleanly.
So they've struggled with over the last hour and a half
or so.
However, we have seen some glimmers of light
as it seems that the tunnel of sadness
is about to be exited.
As, yeah, it's been rough the last few hours.
Not going to lie, but it seems like there's a lot
of more of a jovial attitude amongst the raiders
as they have been able to get out of the phase
little bit easier. It only takes one pull, Frago, to be reignited. I think generally speaking when
they get like this, I think it's because there's so much bot review, there's so much wine time,
but if you're not directly involved in what's being changed, let's say you're somebody who's
like kind of pointless, right, like Cush. So you've got no involvement in anything. You're a
melee VPS, right? So okay, it's a lot of downtime when your job is to blast and have that done.
So you can see if Frago has come down here, they will be able to send the Comet Res. It is
done. Those knocks are very close to one another. They're immediately killed again by the other side.
They're probably a pin pull. It does happen. I can imagine there's a crush as well. It's just like,
oh, we're gonna have a conversation about defensive. He's like, well, I'll do a feint. Okay. Yeah,
exactly. It does. All right. I guess I'm good. I look something to continue pushing, actually.
Elite for now. We will see we will get fraggled up at that for the mic.
I thought it was going to be a bit of a stretch, but in theory you could get them up for the
four and a half minute point where you're on the second platform.
Yeah, which is a very important time.
Probably lacking the Zephyr and stuff like that, that is probably where it stacks a
lot of cooldowns during that drag in.
We've seen it from his POV a few times, is what he's doing now, which, this thing
hits so hard if you're not covered by defences, then it's not a good place to
be.
There's the wrong sort of hole in the giggle each other.
Who thought it was a good idea to put all the melee DPS on one side?
That entire row of players is...
Have we got a wide view camera for everybody?
So you've got the bodybuilders.
You've got Jinji and Nice Beams.
Like you can't see it there.
And then you've got the melee gang all the way up to Mini.
And it kind of transfers at Mini.
And then you've got Casting Gang and Healers on the other side.
I really feel like they hate each other.
It wouldn't be surprising throwing things at each other.
Because the melee gang, that entire road doesn't give a crap about anything.
That's true, they're all melee on that side.
It's nice to do it.
Yeah, they're over there for the protein...
I'm gonna fart, like the protein fart corner.
Yeah, just getting them out of the way of one another.
Yeah, it's the nice memes and Jinjin, the protein fart corner that eventually leads over to the rogue corner,
which is just pure kindergarten over there.
Yeah, that's fair.
We haven't got a very quick, oh no, we don't have time.
No, I'm gonna save it. I was gonna read one of these donations this one. I'm looking forward to this. Okay
I do sir. There's is a juicer. I hope it is at least now someone's just making up porkies
I bet they have a little thing in a car is like, okay, so anybody don't want to sit next to you
I know a lot of people don't like sitting next to the melee because they're just such
Deviants
They're always leave back the lay down
We actually had it in the minutes or raise I think it was caution clicks were all over in one corner
They would all come out and talk to us like, it's so easy, we just nip the map.
That's all the healers are just in full despair mode.
So this is the hardest thing we've ever had to do in our lives.
100% you come out and Ryce would be like, oh my god, what are you doing?
And then you just see the clicks and like, oh yeah, you seen this on TikTok?
The melee life is a good life, my friends.
Melee life is good life here.
I think Revez is here by the way, but we have of course sealed him in his chamber as he requires every race to world first
He is inaccessible by human touch and contact
for all the race to world first
Put him in the vault
Have we got Revez's POMF? I'm out of interest
There is our boy!
Thank you Revez
Thank you, I love this UI, it's so crisp
It is, it's very clean, very clean indeed
Although going back to nice memes UI
this UI now see this one which one do you actually prefer Revers I would agree with you until recently
I'm starting to become a bit more of an add-on purist
what does this mean gotta gotta get rid of the add-ons really swirling add-on to the glass
I sense jasmine time
yeah and then this is horrendous that there's a lot of UI
I think it's also a UI to be viewed. It's got a lot of things here that
Tools that other people can read a lot of this isn't actually for frango
They're more like as an example scratch once I watch his his point of view which he has done before in the past
Yep, but um, yeah the there's been a lot of complaints about
Performance this raid so I honestly think if there's anything you can do to just strip back huge to perform
Our game performance. Yes, it's very fine. You can see they've got 80 FPS here on these beautiful stuff. Oh, yeah
Yeah, no, I'm talking about my mini as well like in terms of the game just crumbling under the weight of having said noot down a
Bunch of ads on
Brute with it. Did you hear they were deleting the cash every hour?
Yeah, exactly that kind of stuff
But you would be sore at one point Mara's completely removing
In order to try and get to down to the source of the problem because sometimes it doesn't matter how strong your computer is if the game
decides that he just wants to sit there and do nothing good then you're gonna
really really struggle many going down doesn't surprise me was a little bit too
low going into that we have the rest of the healing that he needed whether or
not it was his a mistake beforehand that got him low and not too sure but he
will be red stuff very important aspect of this particular phase being able to
slam the dam that having to pull himself back yes yeah I think having a
very add-on like you why he's gonna do you bunch of good I'm very out on
light now it actually your amount of atoms is
killed through cheap death there I think you guys must go
dragged into the box. Yeah, it must have been dragged in there
Akush. Um you can have a dramatically different looking
UI with very few atoms. Um so all other people asking me oh
how many atoms are you using? I'm like three like really I
don't use many at all. Uh but I guess if you're using
week or is which is atoms within atoms within atoms within
atoms. You can have an entire UI that's just week for us.
Oh for sure. Quite easily. Yeah, you absolutely can but
I actually think Miros is fine for also being observed obviously is another because all the
cooldowns are kind of out the way he is tracking every raid cooldown that is not only just for
raiding but also for the MDI which he is kind of coach slash player this is not good for
Echo as they go down here but it's not it's not offensive there's plenty of clarity
in what's going on yeah I don't mind Miros is too much but so far yeah Reves is the
man of the hour for me. But UI wise. Yeah, I actually want to make sure we're looking at Revez when we get back into P three because he is shopping. Oh, yeah, shopping. In fact, we should do a go for platform two as well.
Just chopping that is Revez is kind of like, okay, I mean, damage until we get to those phases. And then he opens the chainsaw. Yeah, no fury being excellent at damage even after that nurse going into the first mythic week still proving to be an
incredibly useful asset to any
raid team when it comes to a fight
that does have a lot of ads, which is
the majority of them that are difficult
right now. Pretty much only
conversa that is ad free. And I believe
he played arms that question.
At least he did for a while.
Arms on their Russian arm.
Yes.
Yes. Arms there and Russian arm.
But they are absolutely cutting up
and they have so many potential
warriors because Wolf Disco not only
a world class warlock also a
world class warrior and war life
new addition to the Echo roster
who has been present on every fight, I think, except this one, pretty much.
He's at least maybe not been there for the kill, but he's been in points.
I know that he was in on Kaiba for a good time,
and he was doing a lot of work there with that double rally,
but eventually switching them out for a different source of damage.
I think we wanted to go for Mini's element, not elemental, sorry, enhancement.
Because it was doing a ton of damage.
You can see whatever issues that they are having.
They are believing that the spamming of reps is the thing that will get.
Here we go. And obviously it's certainly a strategy as we are going to be doing a ready check to push on through it
There's sometimes nothing more to be added. It's just that well that was a shame
We didn't we might see p1. What do you want to do? Let's go. Yep. Let's get this going on. Check you what cushy
Yeah, you got dragged in there five points. Oh, yes, it was over six million damage on the overkill there
Mira's laughing at him. So
How do you get dragged in?
for that one last auto as every good melee should.
The melees always play on the knife edge. They have an easy time and they use that time to
put their lives at unnecessary risk. Just to get one more GCD.
That's how they get to be the top DPS in the world.
Oh yes.
You need those guys who live life and death on the edge. I'm more of a safe player these
days. I don't mind standing out for a couple of seconds and making sure everything goes
right. But these guys that is unacceptable condition. I am not doing that. We will
push and push and push and push through the very very last second, but with a boss with this much HP
that is a very normal thing to do. No new best pull for Echo yet, we have got to phase three a couple
of times now, we're looking to get there again, we are still moving using that Bloodlust in
platform two, because it is the scariest point, but that will be shifting later in the day after
they get their strategy down for P3, which is clearly what they're after here, is they
want the strats positioning all that stuff, and that means lost platform two get to phase
three more and more and more so that everybody knows like the back of their hand everything
they need to do in that phase and then they can start looking to push the damage because after that
if they get a good p2 a platform two and they get through it then they should be in for a really
good time in p3 when they add the bloodlust back in you know yes exactly that it's it's all about
setting yourself up for victory later on yep um which just mean that sometimes it feels like
like you're reprogging or you're kind of stalled as you're waiting for the puzzle pieces that
were once working just fine but now that you have to shift them about it does end up making
a little bit of a mess as we get to that point but hey ho something that just needs to happen.
One thing that I am thankful for for Creed Answer is it fast enough to change off them stupidly
dwarfs that we were all playing. Oh now they're got some gnome power in. Oh do you like
the look of gnomes? I love gnomes. Gnomes are scary. I still remember my vanilla days
I'm my priest when a known warrior with an ash candy just charged me and killed me in one here and I thought that is awesome
That's great, I do hate this trinket where they have to perfect I was talking about it
I think it's called the transmitter. Oh the transmitter is awesome
Yeah, do you have to find it in all this and they were using it on Brute twister
It was just the worst thing ever is you have to turn your character slightly to the right and then spin as you pressed it
So it would definitely spawn behind you so you could backpedal into it and know where it is in the middle of all the
That the circles crashing down the worms everywhere all those things all little micro the guys are playing it
I thought it'd be troll honestly that transmitter because of like how disruptive it would be like the power you get from it
If you can achieve the little task that it gives you so strong, but yeah, it's a little scary
Let's see if they can do these jumps one by one so far so good. We need to get one more debuff there
Excellent, that's what we wanted to see. They got a big incoming burst of raid damage coming in in two seconds though
This is very difficult to survive. They couldn't get the AMZ either.
Ginger just wasn't top, so he was sat there at 60% for quite a while there.
I'm not sure if he got clipped by something or wasn't in range of AoE spells or just didn't have his personal available.
Not too sure. I think it was that AMZ being
unfortunately unusable as one of the globules moved right through the middle of it so they didn't have time to shelter
within the AMZ and
and protect themselves, but you can see those fragile school
downs which we were missing last time when he died here, which
enables them to survive through a lot of this damage.
It's so much damage.
That's just straight up what it is. It's so, so much damage.
Amira's dead. Yeah, the other side.
Yeah, no way for sure. Make sense. You're about to get
to see up until midway through the second platform
consistently struggling.
It feels that something needs to give in this intermission
We're getting there relatively cleanly. It's just as we're entering it. It feels
More likely that we're gonna lose someone than that. We're gonna get through clean at this point
It feels like oh wow they managed to get through that shouldn't be the case
That's what I'm thinking but it's not there it's certainly making it more difficult
It really really is so I have faith don't get me wrong
These guys know more about the game than I do and they have a better idea of what to do in the raid than I do as
Well, but it's not champions for a reason. Yes, it's certainly feels it's a little bit rough right now
I think he's been summoned.
Oh, Roger is here, ladies and gentlemen.
He has prizes and presents for all of you.
He certainly does.
Oh, wow.
Get your channel points in now.
You can redeem them.
I'm pretty sure we've already met the goal.
But because you guys are putting in so many
of your channel points during these periods,
you're actually breaking our extension.
We've also had a couple of times
where Twitch was a little bit shaky because of the amount
of points you were already.
Send it, dude.
Send it.
Bloodlust.
Loveless has been called from the audience get your channel points in they're not used for anything else other than Rogers a little treasure trove
So get them in you just get them passively by being here guys
And then we have a whole array a stack of cookies to give away for you guys
Including mythic raid boost including the mounts alongside echo
Oh, yeah, you can go with the guys and play with them and get stuff like that
But we've also got El Gato products these wonderful stream deck excels to pass on to you guys merch
this place, the awesome new display which just came in the other day, Stream Deck plus, so we need
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you guys are going so fast that we can't keep up, so do keep those coming in, we've got loads of
wonderful goodies coming your way and it's always some good fun as well as some in-game
goodies, got some more within Epic Editions as well, some awesome stuff for you and of course
just for the fun of it so do get them in while we can as we're waiting for a new poll to go oh it's
already done well done in which case chat your next task is not to type in anything exclamation
mark wise it is instead to vote in a poll that will appear at the top of the chat you do so by
clicking on it and then selecting an option we either want to be team crab or team spider and
that will determine which of the two envelope looks like there's more I think spider has been
the dominant force and it looks like crab has got plenty of goodies left in it. Oh yeah,
there's a well-filled crab goodies available so I'm just saying it might be worth it. Because
team crab sucks. What? That's why team crab sucks. Well, spiders, victorious, don't move weird,
thumbs up. You think spiders don't move weird? Spiders don't move weird.
Wow. Very predictable movement from the spider. That's the word I'd use for spiders as well.
Why are you voting crab because crabs are not only the spiders of the sea so they have all of the spider qualities with none of the downsides
You guys are just contrarians, but also delicious. They are delicious
When was the last time? Yeah, there was also way more crab prizes as production
Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything that means it's way more good. No it doesn't because the best prize
Spiders oh good. No that's the logic. That's poor logic
It doesn't matter. It's the logic you've gone through all the spider ones. You're definitely long on the really good one
Right, they're all really good bike
They're all really good. That's subjective. God damn it is. Yeah, that's entirely subjective
If I desperately need a stream deck stream deck plus or something then I want to take him out of the spider
What already how do you know that would be in the crowd what kind of manipulative tactics is this you crap fiend
You are bought out by big crap. I have sick of it. I've got stocks in crab you have
Don't listen to your fairness. All of my merch is team crap
Mr. Bias, do you know I was the last person we got given a spreadsheet by frango
And this is your preach cut so I just kind of did it in the hotel lobby and I looked through whatever else had chosen
There was a surprising lack of crap and I was like I can't let my crap friends be underrepresented speaking of crabs
So what do we need to reset the raid?
What is that? What is that?
Oh dear.
All right, this is for chat more than anything.
Yeah, for sure.
Cause the guys-
Here we go.
All right, here you go.
Look what Jordan's made for you.
You are a fantastic artist at this.
There we go.
Better than I could do.
It's Worms Wine Time.
Worms Wine Time.
Worms Wine Time.
Ah, it certainly is.
I think Crab did have it though, Mike.
So unfortunate times ahead.
You choose, you're the Crab.
Okay, I'll find them out and let's see what we're gonna get. I have
We did put hard cold cold hard cash
All right, let's have a little look is there anywhere that you think I should go for I think I'm gonna go for I think mid is a bait
I think it's a bit as well. So that's why I'm gonna go
I'm an easy man when it comes to that kind of that's true is the things this guy will do for a penny weird
Include being here
If I didn't throw this everywhere, okay, so never throw your crabs never throw your crabs around that is bad news
Let us see what we've got in here. You guys we have one
a Nord VPN bundle. Now we go. So we're going to get a load of Nord VPN goodies. All you
need to do is type in chat exclamation mark. Crab exclamation crab baby. Yes, and do make
sure your Twitch DMs are open a big shout out to Nord VPN for that. So one of you going
to have a lovely bundle of Nord VPN goodies. You're going to have access to all sorts
of international goodies and
protection for the next little
while there. Thank you to
Norvpn for providing that for
us. A big team up with Norvpn
and Echo, especially with the
arising amount of easy ways of
people getting into your phones
and stuff on public Wi-Fi. Oh,
yes. It has been an increasing
issue and Norvpn has provided
some solid protections for you
guys. When you're out and
about and you're connected to
like coffee shop Wi-Fi, hotel
Wi-Fies, and you're checking
your banks and all that kind
of stuff. That was a blade.
That's what that was on Wolf this girl. That's I've just I was just Sam was telling me what was part of the Nord VPN bundle there
That's why I'm looking you in a vacant
I didn't want to know Sam. You just tell Alex
One-on-one with him. We chat a lot whilst you're here Sam be quiet. I'm trying to talk to us
Okay, you see you know we had that game of the day one production actually say to us is now
Unrepeatable
So am I right in saying that in the bundle, it's one year of NordVPN.
Sam did you say something?
One year of incognito and what was it 35 gigabytes of?
What was it?
I didn't hear the last part because the mic was looking at me.
I'm in trouble now.
Well, it's in the bundle.
Oh, he's coming in.
He's coming in.
He's going to come and give us grief.
He's going to throw things at me.
He's going to throw things at us.
This is not Wormsh approved.
Oh, he's got nipple clamps.
Wow.
I didn't think we were getting there.
It's a later.
Did we reach that donation?
I thought it was going to be deep base 3 territory.
Isn't that 40k for the nipple quads?
Oh no.
I think Sam's already on the knife edge.
Don't stop throwing so fast.
We're doing our job.
Hey, Sam.
Poorly.
No.
Bad Sam.
Oh dear.
Let us jump back to the prog as they are in on a pool there.
But yes, of course, do you get exclamation mark crab in the chat for the NordVPN bundle.
Lots of wonderful goodies for you.
Fraggo down again! Fraggo is... I wonder if he's changed a trinket or something.
Hmm... I'd like to see what it is. Because he's in the same place every time.
There's no difference happening there. He is doing the personal spiel.
This might be this next yank really vicious because it is a lot of Fraggo's...
He's evoking defenses. They're kicking in here.
So let's see... Here it comes. Three.
Deuce. Uno. Now.
Yeah unfortunately going down. What's all that? Are you friend worthers at me? Oh no. He's all worthers. They're little chockies. I get the game. Thank you.
What did I do? Come on. Oh thanks Sam. Dammit. I don't like him. Oh it's true. Yeah this is actually terrorism for other casters not me because he's going to leave
wrappers everywhere I won't I clean up after myself that's a lie that's a shall
we look under this table out no it's appalling it's actually shocking it
really is this isn't even mine what is this is the top of the whipped cream
we're not whipped cream on the couch in like a week why did you have a cream
Don't ask questions.
Found it.
I didn't know where it was. I found it now.
What were you guys doing over the course of Heroic that ended up with whipped cream?
It was a dark time for us all.
You squirted in someone's mouth, didn't you?
I squirted it in my own.
You're making like your own hot chucky.
Times are tough.
What are these anyway?
Reasons. I've never had one of these. I've seen them advertised.
I've never had any reason for it.
I don't know.
Are they dark chocolate?
I don't know if I can find out.
Are we having one?
Why not?
They look like dark chocolate.
Are they going to be bitter?
They are dark chocolate for sure.
Oh god.
I guess we'll just sit here for an hour.
These are really tough.
Why would you give casters?
Cement sweets.
Oh, they're all in my teeth now!
Hmm, this is really nice.
Thank you.
Mike just muting himself and then getting unmuted.
Stop on muting!
Can't say that to me, Sam said to me to put your headset back on.
No, he just refused it.
You've gone too far.
You've gone into the nuclear option of just not putting the headset on in the first place.
Ah, damn, they are in another pool.
Obviously, whatever was causing them grief.
It does sit there forever.
Oh, you've got to unmute.
You know and now he's meeting you
Can't help but feel that there's a lack of synergy going on
We need to reset okay, we need to reset our
mental
We're here working on the last boss
Of the first tier of the war within I feel like a blue bubblegum
You blow bubblegum watch that's not
Okay, uh, it's very sticky. Oh, mate. I'm no moving on desperately. Oh, that kill of the boss, guys. Look at that spider.
It's gonna absolutely die right now.
He's second now. This is the kill now. You do know that, right? My puncture is really hard. It's gonna be immortalized.
Oh, mate. That is full hard. Did you deal with that? I, um, I'm still dealing with it.
I chewed it and then realized how much trouble I was in and then just did my best to make it as small as possible and just went for it.
So, yeah, that's like a full like who the hell would eat them out of choice?
I would if I had nothing to do for the next like three or four hours
These are full hobby tomorrow. I was gonna go fishing but instead I'm gonna be a pack of reason. Yeah, they're actually really nice
They taste good other chocolates being available, of course
Okay, so we're going into one of the harder parts of phase four desperately trying to drag this cast
back to some sort of semblance of sanity as we're going to be having the roots here at the same
time as we're spawning these four trampolines that they need to take to go over the wave that's
going to be coming their way. Very easy to die here however generally speaking our deaths have
been mainly focused as we're leaving this phase. One last trampoline coming in, one player unfortunately
going down that means we're going to have five stacks this damage coming in is going to be
higher than usual which has already been pretty rough thus far but so far so good as we've
We've only lost one person that being Wolf Disco that we'll be able to rezz up of course
losing a DPS during this phase not the end of the world as we do do a little bit of saving.
Yeah after the dragging which is all that damage so you're getting back up giving time
to sort himself out and not be a case of like oh you rezzed and immediately a big
bombardment of damage is going to land on your face.
Of course classic Rogue Wicora there that just says XDDD plus freight haha nice mechanic
game.
True.
to go out this time and I'll get dragged into the middle.
So bad, Malfursh.
That's what he did.
Yeah, that's true.
That is.
He was greeting it out there.
20% left on this shield.
Let's go.
Come on, folks.
This is going to be a little closer.
We'll need to keep sending.
Five, four, three, two, one.
One percent left.
Oh, damn.
That is big, sir.
Well done, Wolf Disco.
Want to wipe us again, dear.
I wonder what did happen, though.
It's because Wolf obviously, on a very sturdy class
on the part of the fight that he normally
wouldn't struggle on, because the blades would
done at that point. So honestly feels like he died during the knockups. Which doesn't make
a lot of sense. Well that was rising. I didn't get to see unfortunately what caused the death
there. But obviously they are playing this incredibly tight to the wire. Go again? Yeah
incredibly tight to the wire. Oh yes, they're going to back up and we're not going to get
chance. We do have a little 20 seconds between pause but they're rapid pulling now and
we're all combobulated. What to do when they actually pull the boss guys. Right
We've got a five dollar donation in from dreed.
Oh Jesus, he says blast furnace because I in terms of their favorite boss blast furnace because I beat Mike every time fire
Nova how fire was also great because Mike was benched so that we could have a good tanks Simon and me
And he pretended to have a kid to say
That's what it was. I like that as a little bit. Oh, they said
I'll squeeze a couple in in between but we do I know your best and worst bosses
But ideally those not no one cares if you like blackout. It's great. We all agree. It's on song heroes
I'm really interested that don't quite get the credit they probably deserve because they work that hard
But they're still just incredible fun that you look forward to every week like town goffing. I
Love to tear on goffing as a tank
We came up with some crazy tank builds there to allow our DPS to go
Absolutely bananas on that fight and they appreciate it because they can blast really hard
I came up with a crazy block value build. Oh, that's not good. That was a bum in the wrong order
interesting they also might have just been wiping something went wrong that's a
very quick way of wiping the inside yeah it's actual yeah sure we have got one
dollar donation in from doughnut despair it's pretty good me says all this health
I sit so talk and I don't think we've mentioned mythic manner of even once
that must have been one of the most repetitive mythic fights I ever did
smiley face Alex your guides came so slow that year too slow it says that
That is Christ. Yeah, I'm getting you've been retired for like a few years now. You still getting grief
I'm getting grief for a tear that got released eight years ago
Because it's like what classics coming away
It was a man of those are my second year
It's still an HFC spamming out kids probably talk to about tears. I was very very very
happy
The man on earth was uh, it was all right sight
It was cool like taking place on top of like a giant like on top of the tower
You could see the area around it. It was a generally decent fight
There was something you could do with a the new ring the legendary ring where an ad would spawn
It was like the hardest thing of the face like getting through these ads
We got to a point in farmer and ad would sport and you time the ring just right there
It spawns and instantly dies. It was a ring exploded on it
There's some silly things like that and it wasn't too bad of a fight. I mean really farmable. Yeah
It was cool. I can't remember. I need to go back and look at the fight to remember what I don't like about it
It's such a long time. I like if it was kind of like an average
There's nothing wrong with this kind of fight like all good then sometimes I can't really remember the pain
Yeah, I think actually rather than looking at first kill some of the worst fights
I think of are actually the ones that were actually just a pain to kill the next
Resolute I never look forward to every farm
So mr. Cezine would be right up there. Yeah, that bus is a bit rough absolutely
horrendous fights one of the worst for me just constantly changing and shifting
they even had to cool damage jumps where you've got to bolt shark and it got to
the point where you weren't allowed to do that mechanic anymore because i mean
how dumb is that oh yeah i think i had a really cool idea behind it but the
way that it was executed unfortunately did miss the mark a little bit
my most hated fight for re pro uh re kills was gohun
i think one of the kindest things because you had to have four wallocks
and get it all set up it was like impossible to split right unless you
she had like eight warlocks like capable warlocks in your guild like you've told your
characters. One of the kindest things Blizzard did that tail was make it so that boss dropped
absolute trash so no one ever wanted to farm it anyway.
Did we ever re-kill it?
We did re- I think we re-cored it maybe once or twice but then that was it.
Yeah I can't know I'm just putting my blood.
Yeah no that was a that was not a good uh not a good boss to re-clear in any way shape or form.
Yeah.
Is that what it is?
Yeah I mean I like I like I always love killing the fights at least once
But for sure if it's a pain I don't want to do it.
Similar coming back to two, Maiden.
Someone screwing up Maiden.
I really liked Maiden because I got to heal it.
They took me in on a Holy Priest.
My priest went from challenge to Holy Flit, their boss.
And I absolutely slapped.
Said one of the few times I actually healed something
and did decent.
Hey!
Yeah, healing for me.
I was on a mage, so my job was to man the entire back row
to count for people not getting their orbs.
That was my job,
to blink a crop from row to row for whatever the melee didn't catch and just be sort of
like cleaning up after the kids. Spill all the milk all over the floor. Almost got it,
almost got it. And having to listen to the constant DPS complain because obviously it
was a damage buff that he was supposed to share, but somebody would just run and yank
them all and nobody else would get the damage buff. The endless bitching that would go
on backwards and forwards. So Wolf Disco actually doesn't take part in the AMZ because
he's quote-unquote doesn't need it. A certain amount of people can't go into it because of course
as soon as that pull-in happens it's the same moment that the first tick of the spread
damage on you is, happens at the same time, so if everyone is directly on top of one another
you're going to take a huge burst of damage 400k per player so if they're like five people on
top of each other that could very quickly provide, prove to be lethal, so you can understand why
not everyone is in that darkness AM AMT
Now I'll walk one of the tanky ones which is why
it's a shame he died last pull as one of the ones who's like
oh you can stay out you'll be fine obviously covered by other protections for sure
but looking much much better that shield got annihilated there
It's a lot of time. Alright Echo we're back
it's been a rough five six pulls but that's okay let's get back again
they're in good shape the combat res has been used so we
do not have their safety net this time but hopefully they don't need it
into a platform 2. We are still probably going to lose that platform 2 and hopefully we can clear it
as quickly as we did last time. But one missed portal and this is a game over.
It really is. It's incredibly easy to struggle here as we're going to be going into this. Yeah,
you can see Reves doing all the damage in the world. Knuckle down into the face.
Definitely, you'll see him at the moment. Eight from the damage me. I'll be interested to
see where he ends up after all of this. You may be going to see him go crazy during
that second platform but a very easy phase to lose the odd occasional person too.
Zaxi has come down here they will need Zaxi up when they get to the next platform and here we go.
Is he dead? I think Kha'Nix is dead as well.
Yeah Kha'Nix is dead.
There's a little button. Zaxi will take priority here as the lust has been popped
and now with all these ads we should be seeing Ravis shop although they're not quite in range
He's got ease himself over. I think we've lost Mures as well
So it's not looking good for echo right here
Obviously as Reves is a DPS
He couldn't give a flying whatever about any of the dead raid frames that bogged off in a corner somewhere
I was trying to go that was dead but unfortunately the portal did indeed explode causing some issues there as the Shattergate cast going through from that
Enemy causing us a bunch of grief. It was good to get back up
But once again just losing too many people too soon in this phase. Yeah, it's rough. It's very difficult
It's very very difficult some of they just need to do their best to try and improve on
Then it really can do that it's with their repetitions
But it's good to finally get out the intermission which honestly feels like it's been quite a while
It would be exciting that phase one. Yeah, it's only been five six pulls since they have that really good phase three pull
But there's obviously the the chitter chatter happening in between but they have been much better in the last half an hour
Just pulling and pulling and pulling
That's okay going because they just need to get there now like there's as we heard potter say on the comms
It's like there's nothing else I can do for you now like you just have to do it
And this is a certain point and we had that with also a rootkeeper where they just said it's now on you guys to execute
There's nothing else we can do on the outside that we think of
Or can think of that's gonna make this any easier. It's this hard get it done. We've got a five dollar donation in from
Chris Kecks, I think that's how you pronounce it said what keeps the raid away from actually letting the cast to ads or
At least one alive in phase three
less souls or dots so in the last phase we got those ads that arrived from this very center
why don't just keep them alive and keep them kicked is the question that's being asked
largely speaking those ads i believe upon the nova coming in once the nova does contact them
um that is enough to also set off the raid wipe so you do need to do all them buy those it is
very good at making sure that these guys cannot buy pass mechanics um but an excellent
Strategy decision coming in from or suggestion even coming in from Abdul the noob for a $10 donation. He says have they tried not die not yet
I'm sure that is on the menu. We will pass it on apparently. That's a strategy number 50. We're working on strategy number 40
We have got a tender donation in from pooch who says I stopped playing well with Legion
But I'm still following the world first race with excitement. Go Echo. Thank you very much pooch
That's very very kind of you through your donation and it's same here. Honestly. I haven't really played well seriously since like for Shadlands and
The race is the only thing that's really keeping me about and I love it
I adore it every single time like I love the effort. I love the skills
I'm kind of loving what Blizzard is doing on their end to keep upping the ante for these guys
I just really think you've seen it all they have something new to show you really do
Five dollar donation in from Dresdas who says August the unmaker can suck a fat one
Six straight weeks of extending lockout prog two at night a week three hour raiding in hindsight
It was a fun fight, but the day I got cutting edge
I logged off and didn't log back in for like three months. Yeah
This was okay. I think it was all right
It was okay
I think it got a lot better when you didn't have to do the immune tech where like the entire a preimmune
The chains it is basically just like a pulling the lever on a slot machine and hope for the best
You think that fire would have been infinitely better piece of like the world
I think it was I think at the time discovered the just leave someone downstairs for a whole fight idea
I was doing that. That was my job. What a miserable job
We found ways of getting me back up like we found extra bits of resources to bring me out of that phase do a little bit
Damage and then go back down, but yeah, it was a bit
Bit boring
Hey, how it was was it was what it was the class I was playing at the time of trash for that particular phase anyway
So listen gonna play it right no, I was playing I think I come in was playing I was playing priests
No, no, so I blogged over to my dh. Oh, I guess so I got to go on and I'll
Really matter they didn't have much gear phase one or two damage check was like nothing
Yes, thank you very much for that donation dress. That's we just got a one dollar donation in from coyote
This is time to contribute to the hellfire citadel
with that boss Alex podcast, Ali's favorite boss ever was Manara. We progressed that boss
for weeks then I hit, then I was hit with a pretty serious family emergency and couldn't
play. They one shot the boss the same day with me gone. Oh so sad. That's a feels bad.
It does happen. Yeah it does. That does happen. Feels bad right there. Well I did
just see and although this is an excellent point in which we can continue to read
donations. I'd prefer to put those in between pools at the players. They are on break. I
would also like to take that break at the same time as them to see if we can get any
sort of info from them, even if it is just a vibe to see how everyone is doing. I'm also
convinced there are a few pools away from doing some mega-pool. I just feel it. It
feels like that, yeah, after you've been at one of these races for long enough you
kind of get a bit of a rhythm. It feels like that is on the card. So tell you
what, we're going to go for a little bit of break. Keep your donations coming in.
We will read them. So don't go anywhere. We'll have a little listen in the wave
all with some music. Be back in a sec.
So it's a threat then I guess.
Blade's under you now.
I don't want to interrupt your watching session with Skype.
If you're going to watch a series, that's fine.
I'm very good.
Watching the blocks.
Ah, it's time to go to the session.
Go.
Watch Fina, Pulse.
One boost.
Reading in two, one, go.
Maybe I'll go find maybe.
That's it.
I'm gonna spell it.
I'm back.
I'm back.
I'm back.
I'm back.
You need something later, no?
Spread?
No, no.
I do.
I do.
I do.
Blades coming again, under your feet now.
I'm chilling.
Watch the blocks.
Up here.
And blades under you now.
Oh.
I'm sad.
It's in the middle of the bus.
I'm up.
Boom.
I think that's the plan.
It's there.
Welcome back, ladies and gents.
Obviously you heard that.
Whoops!
There was a thing going through the bus
it got me. Oh, it does do that. It does do that as Ansarek is still putting all these
raiders six feet under and laughing as she does it. Wormsh. No, no, no. No, no, no. No,
no, no. As we are celebrating here, this Wormsh wine time as Ansarek is very relaxed right
now as Echo is working through this fight in order to see how it's even tackled in the end.
Yep, there's a lot more to discover today so far, we've had a little bit of a rough time as we're getting back into it and I think there was, I think it's safe to say, a little bit of a slump in terms of morale as the players were running into a consistent amount of problems.
But listening into the comms there, a good amount of jovialness between the raiders, they had a nice little break with some healthy snacks that they enjoyed in the kitchen and coming back with sticks.
They will come to the sticks with some nice dip.
Very, very nice indeed.
So, yes, coming back and being in that sort of strong position,
hopefully meant to be a little bit of a reset needed
to go back in on a fight that is incredibly good
at wearing you down.
If you find yourself in a position, this is a great place
to have a death spiral for your raid group.
So, look forward to this a little bit,
because it's going to be a rough one.
Echo doing everything they can to slam through this boss.
I've been working on it since the early hours this morning.
Oh, not early hours, about eight o'clock this morning.
They've just been pushing through as best as they can.
can. So we're going to be with you, me and Mike for the next two hours at least before
I think it's Jesse and Jordan later on today. We're going to be walking you through hopefully
some amazing pools because Mike you were saying just before we had our break you can
feel that at least in terms of the normal significance of the raid, the normal rhythm
of the pools that you feel something is coming. Yeah, I mean every raid group that you're
following the race will first whether the math and liquid echo you'll always see
these slumps happen for a couple of hours and then suddenly it just clicks back in and I think
the weird kind of there judging by the atmosphere in the room, judging by the atmosphere when
the break is like okay because these guys have obviously been through this a lot and when you
are rating this many hours it does happen but they also know how to get themselves out of it
and it's where they heavily lean on the more morale focused players that will be your Gingis
and you'll ever the optimists of like let's get it let's get it done and as we came in I actually
thought I heard them like come on let's go but it turned out to be a very loud sneeze it wasn't
incredibly loud sneeze I believe it was a sneeze because someone did say bless you it could also
be a little bit of a troll um but this upcoming part of the phase is one of the parts that they
have been struggling the most as we're going to be dealing with the toxins oh no this part isn't
necessarily the worst it's the next overlaps with the four toxins with the roots into the
blades into the jumps it's like oh my goodness so hard to keep on top of it the difficulty of this
phase when they do it properly it looks like yeah of course this is easy and then when they fail
it's like why aren't they doing it like they did before when they made it look easy oh lord they're
coming oh there we go you've got to dodge a lot out of the way right right down it's far from easy
of course canyx now on that boomkin moving away from the feral big sad unfortunately but they
are preferring the probably the boomkin damage of the last phase with all the spread out
add starfire and all the dots certainly a starfall excuse me and all the dots coming into
great use there unfortunately you do have wolf go down but it is at a point where we can res them
and here comes the four new toxins the wild markers are due to be placed down any moment
or not we're just going to go yolo on this one as i go roughly there we go there's the
wild markers making sure that we're all happy and safe dealing with these sets of
roots that we're just cheesing our way out of whilst dodging all of these blades incredibly difficult to do so whilst making sure you get back towards your trampoline.
There's two so far, there's a third and there's the fourth. Everyone alive so far, but here comes a crazy amount of raid damage in four seconds.
Unfortunately, Mayvoka going down there, very easy to do at that point, but I think they're going to keep pushing through.
There are some points.
There are some DPS that's down, so there's a little bit of defensive loss, but ultimately should be able to push through this.
and move on. Obviously losing your DPS during a shield break where DPS matters not ideal but also
at the end of the world. They have been sort of holding their DPS a little bit when it's going
all well in order to break the shield. You can actually see that percentage, that light
blue bar in the middle of your screens with 30% remaining. That is the second yank in. So they
need to kill this before the third. So let's see how they get on here as it's going to start
start casting very soon. Another 10% to go. There's the Yankees. 5 seconds to finish
stuff. They should be fine, but we'll just go again.
I wonder if he wasn't rebuffed or something on those lines in time. So this is a big
loss. I think that's awesome. One of the two groups is going to be 2 DBS now. I
hope this guy is probably kicking himself right now. He knows this is not what needs
to happen. You don't need to tell these players this is not what we need right
now. We need you consistently. We need you on your feet. It makes it infinitely
harder on these platforms to do this without the entire raid alive but not
necessarily impossible dying like that is impossible yeah that would make it very
hard
you could have timed that better if I told you it was gonna happen
the possible that part of impossible was the thing that killed him
that is an incredible point
i'm gonna self-floor yeah that was not you
I can't actually, the gap here is not big enough.
Now if we should take the blame for that, there's no weight, no how, as the bodies are laughing.
Oh, dear.
Oh, Jesus Christ!
Right, we're just going to move away from that.
Pop!
The plosive of the pee was enough to set up the portal.
I hear a few pop filter of this, right?
So, let's jump into some donations, because you guys have been incredibly generous.
So many of them coming through that we're going to rush on through them.
them but beforehand huge shout out to never be down for wanting winning the Nord VPN bundle.
Oh, GG's, dude. Congratulations.
I'm sure your Twitch DMs are open, bro, or it's not going to work.
Yeah, it's going to be rough.
What are you wiping?
So we've got a $10 donation from DoobooDekker.
He says, not exactly a spicy take to say Blackhand is my favorite raid boss,
but getting catching edge the week before Nerth after weeks of baiting fire in the
corner of p2 was too satisfying melly gang rise up the jobs on that fight were crazy
dude our first kill of mythic blackhand had our main tank hoovering his room at the same
time as we killed it and every time he keyed up you could just say
and even after we killed it he's like cheering i think it was noobs uh one of our players
just cheers and i was like he's still cleaning his room how could you clean for so long
Video of that kill is so hilarious to me. It's so funny. We got a five-gold donation in from run car who says shout out to my fellow
Sweets, thank you very much run car. We got a one-gold donation in it from fraps who says no
No, they should all be sent to the gallows. Oh come on. No, I'm sick
Sending to the gallows was a little bit more Victorian grotesque than I was expecting. I don't think they can fit in gallows
I think you have to use something like a cigar
Oh my god, that's so cute!
Nomes are a mate getting killed by a gnome, it's always funny, you can't feel that.
We got a 5-Doll donation from Raz88, he says, I don't know why, but Huntsman Ultimore from
Nathria has a special place in my heart.
That's a cute little fight, I think as an early boss there was enough room for some
personal plays and stuff for that to work out?
Yeah, I could see that.
I always liked how my Huntsman, because you could line up your cooldowns perfectly
for mega ricochet through them all with the Rain of Arrows coming down, you could
do a massive amount of pad and cleave on that point. I like that. I like that. Good
call. Once more, some more, not hard, nice and fun, bit of a blast, got a damage amp.
Approved. Not the set, the one after that. What the hell was that guy called? The big
Colossus dude. Oh, well, you had to sort out the different stacks. Yeah, you got the
health debuff and all that. It wasn't a big fan of that one. Oh gosh. Hungering devourer
perhaps? Well said, I believe that is correct. There we go. That's, instead of knowing
anything useful, such as life skills. Alex knows the names of bosses from tears that he didn't
even enjoy that much.
He's still learning to shite his shoelaces. It's difficult. It's difficult.
Velcro. Velcro. I think the world will be in a better place with Velcro.
There we go.
And back in between the blobby blobs as they make their way onto here. So now we're
going to get into the tricky bits, well, trickier as they have three of the toxins
to deal with as well as the blades but we have a quick look at the logs it is the blades that
is mostly killing people it's hard for us to show you the POV we're doing our best the production
is doing their best but it's it's random who ends up in the hell spots but somebody always does
where you just cannot seemingly find a pixel to stand in it's stuck in there oh it's Jinji
Jinji of some reason not having his invis available to himself there fortunately one
of the blades not spawning on in there it's a bit of RNG on off paper look at that book and
I just stand in this little bit and we're like how are the warlocks dying?
Well, it's because that happens sometimes.
Yes, sometimes that happens because they have to stay in this spot because as soon as you
get declared tanky in Echo that means you get nothing.
Potters like, well, you're tanky so you're getting nothing.
It's on my spreadsheet that look after yourself.
Yeah, I'm like, apparently looking at this, cross referencing it and checking
the eyes, it is Goethyself.
Do you see the movement there? Wolf had to do wolf playing out of his mind and even still occasionally just making it incredibly difficult to get through
You're going to see them spawning all of those routes very close to one another because they do spawn webbing and on this
Mythic difficulty getting into the intermission with as much of the room clean as possible
It's going to be key to making sure you have enough space to get him through that intermission as each dragon is also
Spawning the webbing so that's why they're being so precise in comparison to heroic mode or normal mode
Whereas normally you end this phase with just a tiny little pizza slice
We want to end the intermission with that tiny pizza slice
Yeah, I mean the biggest this fight as you have normal is not to get dragged in that's kind of it to be able to do one
Knock for the whole raid in the knockover. You see they have four to do on this fight
But so low now got hit by the toxin there. I think I think he got clipped by it
So they will be able to resin
That's fine as long as they don't get blasted in the face. They're gonna wait until after this
Yeah to to additional dead here that might be a three
They wrote unfortunately is what it is. It's a very very difficult face things can go so wrong on that last overlap
There might be a little bit give the boss a hurry
What purpose Mike? Why are we here?
What reason do we push on sir? It's the brain right spider food for answer it on the rubian food
Which apparently is a different thing? Who would have eyes right?
insects. Going back to our wonderful donations that you have been sending and we got a 10 dollar
donation from Tobi1Kanobi. Just his toes. Is that your favorite or worst grade bus? His toes.
In all fairness, toes have been responsible for some really, really bad wipes of people
who have been kicking out. Some wigglers for you. I like Tobi Bryant that was in yesterday.
I guess he's the same guy who's all these toenails at the amount of unplugged PCs from toes
It's surprisingly high over my time playing games. Nothing like having a cable between your tuxes
We've got a one dollar donation in from Fowdo
Perhaps who says favorite is still crush firehand in gruel's lair as being a mage tanking a major
Domo back in vanilla as a holy disc priest keep up the great job always a
pleasure having at the Echo broadcast as a podcast in the background whilst
working. I'm going to provide some good background from there. Both of those bosses are bosses that I do not have any sort of I know who
Major Domo is. Well allow me but do. So Crush Firehound was I've got a great story. Of course. Was the one of the
ads on the High King Molgore fight where you had to fight the High King himself and his Ogre Minions. You would have liked
by actually because you had one of the ads had to be
tanked by Moonkins or Hunters. Okay. Which is really
interesting. You had another ad that had to be tanked by
Warlocks by enslaving his pets and having the fel hunters
that he spawned tank him. Right. And then you had another
one that was tanked by a mage and then another one that
was normal tanked that you could just blast down. You
had to kill all of those things before you then went
onto the High King itself. Weird row or row
Really cool for a 25 man raid
Yeah, you likely have them it was pretty good because the the one that was the moonkin one
Polymorphed the tank
Whoever was high on throne obviously you can't be polymorphed in this game. Yeah, at least at the time
So it was really cool. So we had our main mage class leader tank
Crush
He went out he farmed Mr. Noobs
He had an excessive stamina set because obviously wasn't really gonna be doing damage in that fight
And the whole point was that you spell stole the
You had to he did massive amount of magical damage, but he had a magical damage reduction shield
So you would spell steal that gain aggro on it and you had the damage reduction and you just kept it up
So it was a nice less little mage tank thing
So he worked really hard and it was actually the final ad that you would kill
So you would have this crush taken off to the side by the mage
They would just spell steal they would barely require any healing and they would tank it off until everything else was dead
Then you would all switch to this
As that happened, the first time we ever killed High King Morgul was the only time we ever made it to the Mage Add
because the adds were the dangerous part, not the boss himself, right?
So we killed the Warlock first, then we killed the other guy, and then we killed the Moonken tanked one
and then it was like, right, everybody go and kill the Mage one, and everyone sprinted over.
My brother also played a Mage, and he was playing it at the time.
So my brother walks over to it, it's the first time he's attacked this add, and clearly at this point,
like many raiders have not paid attention to anything that's happening outside of Kill the Grand Target,
And then on comms and we have this recordics. It was our first kill my brother goes
dudes
dudes
This guy's got a buffy spell stealer. I've got it now and
Watched in horror. I was playing polypalder at the time
I spammed the crap out of noobs because obviously you see still had aggro and no one got a shield and we
Spam not good as he died and my brother tanked it
We're like you just need to keep spal stealing. It's like, okay
Oh no. That's just pretty solid upspread the entire prog. Tank you can add that he didn't
even get to tank. No, he didn't even get to tank and kill it. That's so painful. It was
pretty grim. But I love watching back that video. I still have it saved and I watch it
back and it goes. What was the boss before Imperator Margot in Heimel? Do you remember
the... It was the Arcane guy. Wasn't that also boss he had to spell steal and tank?
Oh my God, mad. I swear there was some weird mage job on that or maybe I'm talking
There was one in Black Temple, the Illidari Council had Mage Tank there.
Maybe I'm talking nonsense. I don't think it's that one.
I think I'm thinking of the right boss, it's the Arcane one.
Yeah, it's like the Ogre Arcane Marge.
Core Ragn apparently. I thought there was some weird Mage job on that.
Maybe I can remember which one.
It's so long ago. It wasn't a particularly engaging fight, but that boss died very quickly.
I think that was a lot of listed.
Yeah, I think I know had one of the coolest first bosses
Yeah, I made you don't say I healed major normal my priest one thing I liked about that was the raid leader at times
I took it upon myself
It's a solo heal the tanks you pulled the boss off to the side
So see you didn't kill the boss till last on major normal. I thought you didn't even kill him
He just gave up right when he oh, and then he went in reds
Yeah, he opened the chest he was like you've beaten me you may be able to face the bylaw blah blah blah
I'm good. You're in trouble now. I'm telling daddy
after you killed his adds but yeah I buggered off to the side of the room with two tanks I think and just solo heal those two and a lot of fun
as Felix has gone down he has immediately sent me Ankh though it's an important defensive cooldown got to get it on CD
They are regularly having deaths at this point though like it's never the same person
oh god
Just as he pops his cooldowns, yeah he looks like that.
God damn it dude, I just set my cooldowns and now you're gonna be dancing all over the place.
Usually I'm fine here, that'll be one of those things that like, you know for the last 50 pulls every time I pop my CA here it's totally fine
and now I do it and now I run around all over the place as he runs away because he has an important job next I believe he is the popper.
Yep, it's gonna be blowing up that purple zone, the one right next to the boss, gonna be ooooh, last minute there
Yeah, two last minute I think
Yeah, I think I was pushing them away from it quite far
Unfortunately losing two players, we will be able to battle res one of them with Thana hopefully coming back up
We will not have Mini up for the rest of this, not actually playing an augmentation of overplaying a DK
Not particularly useful as a name, Mini Aug, but it is what it is as we're going to be pushing through this
We're going to do everything that we can to keep this going.
It is an incredibly difficult phase for Ekko right now, they've been struggling a lot getting
through this intermission cleanly.
So here's hoping that even with the loss of Mini, they will still be able to do it.
Very difficult to get through this part though.
Because he can stun still, he ignores the dragon entirely, there's a lot of damage
to their shield generally.
23% left.
We've got one more set of blocks, really soon.
Yeah, this is gonna be tight. It's gonna be very very tight. So if he does cross for Echo here
3% left on the shield
Yeah point to a way
Yeah, because a lot of them can't deal great damage during that phase. We need to save it
You seem to save for the edge, right? Well, you haven't yeah, you can't do it
Like it's it's up to people like me. You literally can ignore all that excessive movement and dragon and also like
Completely nullify a lot of the damage that comes in that phase to do the damage there
So, yeah, unfortunately, jump back to your donations as we're waiting for a new pool to come in and she doesn't
race over 31,000 now. So thank you so so much within another 4,000. We got the narrow bar coming up
Which was medics
Specialist I'll take it. Yep. So with Mike's extensive mixology
Record made a lot of mercy on us then we do reach that 4,000 mark. We're going to be going through a series of different mocktails
potentially
Well apparently some of them are cursed and it's like part of the quits I'm going for.
Oh wait, okay I don't need to make them then.
No, no, no, no.
I think he's going to send you the recipes.
Oh and he's not here anymore so he doesn't have to face his own consequences?
Yeah basically.
Classic.
Thanks Medic.
Toxic as hell.
Okay so if you want Medic to, Medic's ghost to live on.
He's also not dead.
Where is he?
Show him.
He did land.
I saw him in chat.
or is he could be anybody? It could be anyone. Yeah, it could be anyone.
Medic lost somewhere in Germany.
Do you have you seen this man?
We need a missing poster of medic.
No, we need the shot that the bean in it.
The Tabasco bean shot. That's a quality medic picture.
We need that one. He had a lot. He ate a lot.
To me, he certainly put himself feet first diving into the deep end of some of the debauchery that has occurred sometimes on the echo stream.
Or in the case of your car, I mean literally, you know, making lives better for children's trucks in hospital with disease, it's fine.
Oh yeah, it certainly was.
Again, some people who keep sending messages like, Mike, you don't have to do these things like, it's fine, a cake or a hot chip, we're okay.
Hot chips are quite nice.
Thank you for your concern, but I'm perfectly fine.
And if anything, it makes some of my audience have new memes to throw at me. So there you go.
And in chat. The audience here as well.
And Wormsh. Wormsh.
Wormsh. We also got a Bean Touchdown mode now.
We do have the Bean Susy to go along with the wonderful track Low Wave has made in association
with Echo, including your samples chosen on Twitter. We now have the Beans Banger
to go along with the Race to World First.
That's on Spotify now.
It is on Spotify.
Go and listen to it just for the memes. Go find it.
It's good.
Thank you for all your help with that one.
It's absolutely wonderful idea.
Drop the beans.
Drop the beans.
Echo pushing on.
We just need, they need, and I feel it coming,
one just exceptional pull to pull them out of this funk.
And they are in a funk, for sure.
They are in a rut.
For sure.
Going on right now.
Yeah, they need one just great pull
to just fire them up once again.
And it could be at any point, guys.
So give them, just praise.
Send your energy.
Send Blalatath to guide them through this
because they need it right now.
They were definitely probably,
not definitely probably,
but I think definitely hoping to be
really mapping out phase three by this point.
Yeah.
They've only had a few pulls that have made it,
oh, get out of the way!
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Vying for space!
Stop doing that!
Yeah, they're always the melee like, move dude!
It's, you're entirely right though.
And they've got so many good phase three ideas.
They managed to see a lot
of what Liquid managed to achieve,
seen those 5 adds spawn getting through that second portal set. Now Roger was cooking all
night mainly on phase 3 strategy and they haven't been able to implement it yet. They
have been talking a lot about phase 3 strats so when they get there they know what they're
doing but we've been so long since we've managed to see it that I'm a little bit concerned
that by the time we do it might be a little bit cooked. Let's find out as it seems
like we're quite far away from the previous green puddle but we're going into the
4 set here. The boss is going to go towards the middle, this is one of the roughest
parts of the entire phase pain arrived here we go now beautiful that was really clean that's
like we didn't take any damage that was great I wonder if they've shifted the cooldown back
because they 100% changed something to make it harder on the soft flicks has gone down
you see how close he is to the edge there you can see is a little goblin body just on the
very very edge unfortunate there just getting dragged a little bit too close and I think
narka getting hit by a puddle that's such a you know such a shame to be going into this phase
and having those sorts of mistakes to understand how well we manage to transition into it.
But we will continue to push on through, we'll be able to get Narko up in phase 2, and the
DPS have been alive for long enough that I do believe we'll be able to make it through
the shield. We want the shield to be sub 10%. Well, it's actually going to be a little
bit tight. Let's see if they're able to push through it. 5% left on the shield, 3 seconds
left.
No.
Yeah, we're good.
Nope.
You're not very good at this.
Oh, no. It was a bite. Yeah, we're good. I mean, we're good to go to some donations
It feels like a little bit of greed to get them there, being hit by puddles, just not being
too far away, like it's one of those where I'm sure Scribe is reminding us like if you
just don't die, the shield is nothing, we've got a tender donation in from Sidonian, it's
a lovely name, he says some people might not like this, here we go, hot take, but
Aggrimmar in Antorus, I really love the tightness of controlling the adds with grips and
bringing a ton of knockbacks. Oh you monster. That fight was rough. It was a rough. You
clearly didn't play the blood DK. You had to manage the bleeding ads. I played Shadow
on that fight. So I had to beat you. I did it in the last guild. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
It came to your guild and it was like, you got a DK. I remember! You remember because
you came in as Boomkin and you was like, oh man, I hate that role and we just-
I was mage then. Yeah, we're just building the guild up. So I was just like, well
someone needs to control these ads. Mike, do you mind logging over?
I think I said to you first that God, I don't have to do that anymore.
In that last guild, I was doing it all the time.
And then I got there and you're like, well,
I remember when we made that guild, I was just like,
up there first rate, we'll just see how far we can go.
Maybe do a little bit of heroic.
We like got to Aggramar on Mystic.
And I was like, oh, OK, well, I haven't got a concept for this guy.
So let's see what we can make.
Are you absolutely animal? Nobody likes Aggramar.
Yeah, it was a bit of a weird fight where we wanted to bring five rogues post immunity time just to soak those things
It was a weird fight, but I can understand that when it's done correctly
That it does feel like you've achieved something great
It's sometimes that when the weather fight is difficult and irritating to kind of fiddle out
But once it clicks and the group can do it consistently that can be quite a nice feeling even if it wasn't a nice process to get to
What I'm saying is any more fences you are so I was such a Jordan take
you know what I hate it but it's s t because I can see how people like it that's right yeah I
really don't like it but what it's good it's really good and that's a s plus plus actually
I actually like that fight because I could do some damage on my shadow breeze that's true shadow
breeze can't park it because you just padded perma yeah I remember on melee saying this is
actually the worst fight of all time because I've been running around doing all the grips and
yeah and then you do it in between and then you have to do the mask grip and blah blah
If you didn't do it right, it just wiped all the melee like so yeah
This fight for us is we attack the boss then we run away from the boss and then we attack the boss again
Yep, and then we have to sit and watch as all the rage keep it all up peak raid design
Thank you very much for that Sidonian though. We are going through this time
Roll the dice place your bets man. It's rough. We just need to have everyone kind of locked in
It feels like at the moment
If I say everyone's activating at different points and it's leading to a certain amount of inconsistency that we really don't want
Just one of those things we've read sometimes. Okay, you can just
It needs to end as well because liquid, you know, they're gonna be coming back in a few hours time
You know, maybe about what four hours or so they're gonna start pulling and they have had an amazing day yesterday
They got so so far through the fight
White um so with that kind of breathing down your neck. It's gonna be incredibly that sort of pressure
Right at your right on your back. It's gonna be hard to deal with so they've got a they've got to get
Together well whilst we are waiting for them to get into the fight properly start seeing some phase two start seeing some phase
threes more donations from you guys as we have got a
$50 donation from a dummy panzy who says as someone working in medicine charity
medicine charities like this put a smile on my face love to see it here is also my transmog
I'd like you to rate it we can't do that just yet so but that is something that we cannot
Very proud because we're obviously back and forth that they're already like pulling again
Yeah, and we don't want to necessarily say oh, yeah
We'll do your one and then other people send theirs in and we won't get to them in time to do apologize for that
It's very very generous for your donation and we might be able to look at that in the classroom
Yeah, it's not a big deal with your pictures. Yeah. Yeah, the purpose will follow
Yeah, so thank you very much for that dummy and we've also got a 10 dollar donation from Ryan
This is I haven't played wow in a long time. I'm a Final Fantasy 14 player
It's amazing watching these races and how long it goes on for I suppose early mythic is comparable to ultimates in 14
Rather than savage in terms of how long it takes. I would say the first four bosses are
Like if you're talking about Final Fantasy difficulty terms, they're like very similar to the first boss of a savage tier
It does kind of ramp up in the same way, but the later bosses are probably more difficult than the last boss of a savage tier on average
Yeah, so like think of it as there's eight of these sometimes ten sometimes more instead of just a set for the game
Yeah, so the last boss here is kind of like doing a few phases of ultimate
You can think of it doing it in that show in terms of difficulty not actually the
Difficulty like they're very very different like although it's like an MMO and you're fighting things
in a group like
things people like apples to apples comparison it's impossible yeah it's
really is just about as comparison but like I think that's the same like the
easiest sort of way of looking at if you looking at completely from a fun
fancy full team player is that it's it follows that same sort of savage mark
where it goes beyond the normal savage tier towards the end of it not arcade
even though arcade if it's all over really fun to yeah that's why that
people really enjoyed the fact that they could clearly let you savagery
never been a couple weeks and then come with a day very true got a 25
donation in from Nath who says worst boss ever has to be heroic char of fear so so
long good call on the other hand of mythic artificer from Nathria was a ton
of fun as a hunter barely a second to relax and always a lot of close calls
with the seeds and ghosts and all of the goodies that the first part of that
is correct that was a long fight anyone who says mythic artificer it's
anything that abhorrent a stain upon the otherwise wonderful record of raiding I
don't want to be smirky too much but there is no way you really understand how
that fight works because it's you know fairness baseline baseline the fight
works well the spell queuing ridiculous absolutely but awful if you have the same
version of the fight every single time I actually really like the portals and the
ghosts you're entirely right and move on through did the seeds in the polls
getting that debuff when you had to run really far out on your own and stay out
there and you couldn't get healed or just terrible design yeah there's a lot
of things wrong with it but thank you that we do agree that Sharafe was a
little too long and they haven't had a fight that long ever since that point
Sharafe being the longest fight. I mean that was a fight so long you had to wipe
once to get the buff to come back it I mean what a stupid fight but it's
one of the I guess you could argue it was like a almost a little bit of an
example of the door boss in a way.
Kind of, yeah, kind of.
And also the second phase was so long, it was so uninteresting.
They could have cut half of that vinyl phase out and jumped straight into having many more ads
just loaded the boss HP instead of it being like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
I do remember the kill of that very exciting but only because of how much of a marathon it was to get through.
Yeah, not fun.
So we've got a five dollar donation in from Lottie and TopBanana.
So he says hi Mike Alex Jordan and all the casting team. It's been brilliant as always come on echo
Kick that spider into touch much love to pull from Debson Phil. Thank you so so much a couple of cases at the end
Thank you very much for your very generous. So make sure you kiss. Yes big kiss
Who's got a five dollar donation in from Noctum is as the echo race stream is the best gaming event for me every time
Can't agree with you more best cast is in greeting
to the whole crew who make this possible. Also to the players. Echo fighting heart. Thank
you so so much Dr. You can see from the camera the guys are taking that quick. Go and slap
yourself in the face break. Probably needed like yo get your head in gear boys this isn't
working. We got a $1.13 donation from Flintess and Flintess sorry I think this is probably
more for you. High Princess
Thectow in ZG.
Zoghreb was my favorite boss.
I fondly remember never getting past
the cow age 13
trying to sync the mobs on dial up internet
using a 480 by
320 CRT with 90% of the screen
being ray frames and add-ons. High
Princess the car, which is that bat?
I honestly... If it's
bat, agreed.
Yeah, not fun. My
first ever raid was Zoghreb
It was like Loser's in a raiding team. I was too young
I didn't really know what was going on the game and I got invited to go along for a Zalgirov 25
We cleared the whole place and a sword drop to the end
I was on my hunter sword drop to the end and I was really really upset because I didn't get it
With that I've been the 200. I think so. Yeah, so I
But I was I was like 11 and a pug that they were using to just like yeah group and I was furious
I didn't understand
Worldbreaker something like that. Yeah, it's a great weapon. Actually, and I got nearly ousted as being great leader of my guild because as a warrior
I passed that to a hunter and I did it so I wasn't showing favoritism to myself and
Everybody the girl was like, what are you doing? I was like, well, it's you know, I'm trying not to I'm looting master looting everything
And I think it was fair is like that is just so dumb like just make sure you take your stuff because we're not happy with you
making decisions like that but also interesting if it is the bat boss I'm
thinking of the trashy you'll tell the standard graphical is the tiger boss oh
the tiger boss yeah that was a miserable fight it was just clean fiesta and then
you could just get overwhelmed yeah but yeah but it's given that to the
bat had the trash before it because nobody had any good graphics
yeah of course you turn off a lot of stuff to play and there was I think
was the blizzard you had to turn projected textures on it you couldn't see at all that the trash would do
this and people would be dying to invisible mechanics they'd be like i'm dying to blizzard and there's
nothing here uh or it might have been the poison on the floor and then it turned out is like this
whole mechanic was happening that was completely invisible uh to the raid kind of kind of dumb
kind of dumb that blizzard implemented a mechanic that was completely non-functional if you
didn't have this option uh visible that would murder you yeah i think uh the blizzard
We've got a lot better. It's not perfect still even in the most current rates here, but I think they've got a lot better at making it so things are visible
Obviously on brood twister. I think a bit of a whoops was made with the swirlies being the same color as the
the icor in the last phase with the
Goo going across the room, but generally speaking, it's a lot easier to be able to see things nowadays
praise the Lord as you can see our
resident feral druid here
in wolf form
part feral druid part enhancement all rogue and
And at least sitting upright, which is a rarity for coach normally taking full advantage
Maybe you should leave back. Although Chris has been fine for a couple of calls. It's actually the completely random
It's a dice roll. Oh, yeah getting attacked here. Oh, it's not like one guy's like full troll in all the time or anything like that
It's just rough. It's just there's a lot going on. It's very difficult
It is very very difficult and they need to all lock in in order to make this happen over again
Because I mean yesterday. Yeah, they were in
They were going to intermission and p3
I can't forget how Jesse put it out there, but within the hour it was like 45 minutes
was spent doing that and only 15 minutes was spent like with phase one wipes exactly the
opposite in the last three hours or so, whether we haven't seen the intermission now for a
good 10 pulls or more.
It feels like it has been a while, at least being able to see phase three has been a
long time going, now incredibly low, but managing to recover there just at the
last moment as we're going into the roughest part of this entire phase just
trying to survive as the raid damage comes in in two seconds and having to
dodge all these blobs at the same time everyone's staying alive for now but far
from free as this first yank is going to be coming in dragging all the players
towards the boss two players going down as they went too close oh man that
is sad it is what it is we are gonna get a battle rose up and we're gonna
to keep on going at this point. We will have a res available for Fraggo later. Here comes
the second pull-in. Gotta make sure that we truly are going far enough away. Just managed
to survive it this time. The boss's shield is getting annihilated. They've got all the
time in the world to slow down in damage. Mightn't be cool, but no screw it. We're
just going to push on through about five seconds earlier than we usually do. Hopefully
that doesn't affect our CDs too much. And we're going to be heading over to this
face to add. Yeah, so I mean it seems to be if we cast there nothing but doom and gloom
they do better so it's probably likely they're going to wipe here as they get into this area
they're going to miss a portal and get annihilated by these stars travelling across the room.
Another thing they're going to screw up is probably not being able to use this knockback
properly to go to the first platform something that is you know it's pretty easy to do
but you know what Echo likes they're probably going to screw it up here's the second
Well, they managed to do it, but it's just luck at this point.
At this point, no. What's going to happen is they're going to get dragged in a second.
They're going to just completely goof it.
You're going to see the entire rage just dragged off the edge.
They're not even going to try really. It's going to be really weird.
They're going to leave the webs in the worst possible places.
So that anybody who then uses those portals is just immediately going to die.
And you can see someone coming through there and exploding with their debuff.
It wasn't actually a mechanical fair, but unfortunately, can I say it's going to go down?
This is the hardest part.
Bloodlust has already been pocked, Bloodlust.
Yeah, it's completely unseeded, I think they used it at a earlier point,
so this is going to be incredibly difficult to get through this platform.
As, yeah, you're going to start to see people slowly but surely, unfortunately,
timing out, we've got five seconds left on the shield, still 20% on it,
and I believe the Cosmic Apocalypse is going to take Echo and throw them into the Abyss.
It didn't, but enough players died having to play riskily in order to get to that point.
At least we saw past the intermission and got to the second platform.
God yeah, it's a nice little boost and not as far as we'd want it to get the anti-carser curse sort of working
I think that we should sit and just play another game entirely
Of course the cast at Mario Kart ornaments
Fancy like playing a little bit of a Mario party or you know, I've never played Mario party
I've never played Mario Party, this will be something for us to explore together.
I've always had the issue with Nintendo games, is that I don't know enough people who have
Nintendo's to play that game.
I grew up as a PlayStation game, the first, I had like a Game Boy, but we didn't have
an N64, so I missed out on the Wii.
I had an N64, but I was a lonely loser who smelled like death and looked like death
and so I had no friends and so I got really good at gold mine.
So much has changed.
Yeah, I mean, this area of time I've got a friend.
I can't wait to meet them
Just random shade
What happened to Alex I don't know I just thought I'd be spiteful. Oh, I've got a pen pal
But I'm pretty sure he lives apparently the same address as me
Sad is timeline
Donation in from Dave again, which is Dave again. He says can we get another episode of tales of hellfire with Alex?
Let's say about Shadow Lord Iskar. Do you remember that fight? The bird boss?
We're to throw the little iron toss with Chakrams.
Was that the first thing I got? I need to change this for a second.
Oh, um, actually it's a question to you. Do you remember any boss before that,
where you had like a bouncing Chakram-style mechanic jumping between like three people?
Because we have that quite often now with like Ramornia. We've had that with Sikran
during this where like it would take a distinct path. It'll bounce between and then eventually
to go back to the boss in that sort of way now the boss is stashing but have we had that before
maybe that's like our first thing that that boss ever did i think it was
maybe try i think to the bone crusade stand by as we go back through i am cycling through
my encyclopedia right now i don't think there's anything immediately yeah ricocheting abilities
from the boss don't think so yeah so there you go that might be something about chelo disco
maybe. One thing I do remember about the
intermission phase is that you could
actually damage the boss during it and
they didn't want you to do that. There was
a thing at one point where you could
because you'll get like windsblown at you
something but some class they could pop
the legendary ring and then jump using
a movement ability to hit Iska and
kill them with the legendary ring
whilst they were out there. Oh, and I saw that.
Yep, it was a stupid thing we did during farm.
The boss fell out of bounds and we
never cop a loot. It's funny, it's very funny. That's at least sight that I remember. It could
have been a dream. Thank you very much Dave again, really do appreciate it and that's the
end of my podcast. If I hope I said no for now. If you would like a story about any of
the bosses that have ever died in World of Warcraft, feel free to. I think between
us we might be able to cover it. I think so. Between me and Al is a little on a
death. That's not our fault. It just seems to follow me. We've got a one dollar
donation in from schematic who says hi floor inspector it's me the rat but not
just any rat I'm a monk internet cable destroying water tank tampering rat I'll
see you soon the worst kind yeah I'll be home probably next week unless there's
something really saucy hiding at the back of this boss and chances are what
there's a lot of junk in this boss's trunk let's say that well our secrets
are kept. Yes, indeed. But hopefully my office is fine.
Some reason. I don't know if we referred to the rat 36 minutes ago, but there's another
rat like donation from Knuckles for a $5. This is hello, Mike. It's me, the rat. You
told me the race would either be three days or 10 days. That was 100% you that said that,
not me. So I expect the boss dead today. Or is that based on your calendar that has
summer actually happening in winter and 2024 is actually going to be in 2036
Warhammer Summer still has a chance.
Did you see it in the middle of Warhammer Summer?
Yeah, it's somewhere.
Things came up.
It's been non-stopping.
It's been a busy time.
We have a 10 doll donation.
Thank you very much for that.
We've got a 10 doll donation in from Vape, who says genuinely,
from the bottom of our hearts.
We have never seen the boys this well.
We know them they are looking for that one place where they see it's doable. We can see it
They can see it. We just want them to get it done. Oh screw you
So there's context for this tale I can't remember which race it was
Puts I got a message from Roger Brown. Yeah, I was not casting so it was an online race, whichever one it was
And I got a message from Roger Brown saying the guys could really do with like a motivational speech, right?
It was a do you want to join TS and give them a motivational speech?
I was like, that's hilarious. No, not really like obviously that's putting funny joke. You know seriously. I was like, no
Like that's you trolling me. You're gonna like laugh at me. I'm gonna join the TS and someone's gonna have it like, no
And he was like, no, really, we really, we really wanted to do that as you're trolling.
And then Skype messaged me.
And I was like, no, no, we really do want it to happen.
So I was like, okay, I guess.
So I joined CS and that's what I said.
And now Forever Master.
Oh, damn.
They didn't go on to get the world first though.
Well, then it works.
What can you ask for?
I think it's a beautiful speech.
Did you write it or was it off the cuff?
Off the cuff.
It's not bad.
That's the one I could say off the cuff.
He has trolly
How about you don't suck
We've got a $50 donation, which is incredible. Thank you so so much a 50 dollar donation in from silly a fan
He says thanks for another great white race to world first event and supporting a great cause shout out to everybody at washed up
up. That's Crusher's Guild. And Mickle's Guild. So shout out to everyone that washed up in brackets
except Crusher. And also in brackets. Stop asking me for splits. No. I went to their first split.
They did very, very well on everything. I just kind of plodding along. I haven't been
able to make it every time they've been doing splits. I'm on in the early in the morning
or I'm on during the shift. But maybe when I'm back, we can play together. That'd
be nice. Thank you very much. I'm more than down. But then of course you won't
need splits so we're just useless just we can just do some emplus but thank you for doing
all my crafty armor there we go yeah thank you very much it's incredibly generous this
really does mean a lot we got another donation in from jace193 like jace don't you if you
talk about the best raid fights ever and you're missing out that goat of nathria shimmy left
she oh shimmy left prance forward sachet right boogie down what an absolute faggot
us. Oh, that's a much nicer way of me saying it. Um, yeah. Cool idea. The fact that the
dance was boring as hell is such a shame. They should have allowed you to do something
during it. Like I'll miss it. There was a small time in which you were killing ads
during it because of the way that you had the strategy done. And the fact that you
had the, the choice was kind of like, it's nice to have a council fight where they
do give you the choice of if you note this one down, then you get this enhanced
ability. Very cool. Everything but the dance was okay. Yeah. The dance just really
need a lot of work and I think there was some shenanigans with the spell queuing again on
that fight flying out loud. Still bad somewhere. We're not going to swear, we're just swearing
another language. Remember the PTR testing, they actually changed that dance several times
because the feedback was so bad. And it just wasn't good. I remember when it started
we were like, okay, the dance is going to happen. We were doing PTR testing and
then it started and we were like, what the hell is this? Is this for real? It
was one of those things that sounded good on paper.
The thing is, I think it still could have been a very, very interesting thing to do.
You just needed, while shooting the dance, you needed some way for people to do
outfits still.
Our combos are something, but to make it entertaining and fun, instead of us all being individual
and doing our own thing, I would have loved it if you had to merge.
So it's a bit more like a Chara's dance, but in a fun way, instead of it being
so punchy.
So you just didn't get the damage before you screwed it up or whatever, but you
could have done like intricate things with somebody else. So it was a bit more like mechatalk,
you know, where you communicate and like, oh, that mechatalk thing was such a unique idea
that never done a sense of hidden information on that. I guess it would be absolutely annihilated
by what we've got now. Yeah, I think it was. I think it was either too easy if your guild
was going to communication or impossible if they want. I don't think there was a
middle ground. You're right. Yeah, because for us, our guys who never shop ever, it
like turbo free we did get through it quite quickly in terms of the breaking out there you know
like that part of the fight we didn't struggle too much on there's other parts of the fight
that have a big laser cameras yeah i was oh do you remember i was eating that all the time
i got so tilted do you remember i'm a large penis coming my way uh
pretty much oh that laser camera can show you what no where absolutely annihilated me
but thank you very much for that jayce we've also got a five dollar donation in from
Muiwi?
Muiwi?
Muiwi?
Muiwi?
Ah, Muiwi.
Yeah, I think you're correct.
My favorite was easily Garrosh in Siege of Orgrimmar as a disc priest.
Never have been so powerful back then.
Also, Solar Healed when we had it on Heroic on Pharma.
Sick.
Dude, awesome.
Paragon killing that fight on 10 maps.
Slowlux.
Hell yeah.
So no, I totally agree with you.
I thought Garrosh was a good fight.
Once again, slightly too long.
Mythic only phase is really cool.
Also, for anyone out there who wants to do something, I don't know if this
is still doable. If you're a rogue and you go and kill Garrosh on Mythic and you're in
his last little area, the NPCs that are on the spikes, the dead NPCs, they actually count
as NPCs and for some reason you can shadow step to them. So you can get out of bounds
and you can explore the map. You can go have a little look around isn't it Stormwind?
It is an entire map of Stormwind, like a destroyed weird version of Stormwind and then for
some reason it expands into the whole of Elwynn Forest and Westfall. So you can
go see what the game of the old maps
of Elvin and stuff.
They're not like destroyed variations.
No, they weren't destroyed variations.
It's just like a weird sort of like, yeah,
a little bit of a strange sort of variants
going to school.
That's a way of getting out of bounds.
I don't know if it still works.
It certainly did a few years ago.
So better combo than Alex or out of bounds.
I do like my out of bounds.
You do.
They've changed.
You can't even bloodlustriff anymore.
They've removed it.
I was always so baffled like when I think it was
during water alpha I was like oh Alex is playing before I logged in to the alpha
and you were just in your garrison hopping up the mountain like oh yeah
for what reason you know we went in the Legion alpha the only thing I really did
on stream was get on a demon hunter and go to old instances to see who I could
hop out of I found loads of ways you can you could get out of Sunken temple and
everything you go explore the old Sunken temple I don't know if you can anymore
You certainly could it was very cool. I liked it. What's cool for me? I'm just a nerd
It's like a Dan is like I'm exploring all the map and today on our roll the nice is ready
Unfortunate is what it is, but we got it back up. We can keep pushing through. Oh
Genji that was so spicy close. Let's not do that because we're coming into a super dangerous part
Looks for the point where you can play too safely damn
Can you see he's put one of those puddles in a little bit of a poopy spot?
But as long as people are aware of where it is. Hopefully it will be okay
It's a difficult phase and it seems to really be struggling with it so far.
It's hoping that they can get through it though.
As we're doing the force set, we're going to get our roots in.
We're going to be clearing those out using a series of movement freeing abilities, a lot
of freedoms, a lot of known ratios dodging all of these weapons and then we're going
to get knocked up one by one.
There's group one, there's group two, follow up group three and then four.
Everyone alive so far, but you've got to do a lot of dodging.
We're going to get four different waves coming in, a lot of AoE explosions going
off and the raid damage coming in in two one and we're all alive that's a
10-second period where you really got to be awake and here comes the first yank
oh no doubt bet that's what's been killing frago rescue when yeah he's
rescue he's having to do all the rescues and it bet if there's someone so
slightly opposition I wonder if he clips the area around the boss I
guarantee you that's what maybe they're out of range as well with the
limited range of their vocals that might be what's going on as well
with the rescues because it's also made may vocals having the same issue right these guys don't make it back to you
Remember I was really concerned as what was going on there because maystein was actually the only person on kiveza who had gone
100 plus poles without being someone to die like absolutely the most rock solid person you wanted during kiveza
So I was like really confused. I'm like, are they just having a bad day or something?
But I guarantee you they're having to do some rescues that are getting them killed
100% right we are here guys sit up alt tab the guys are going for it fingers crossed they
have to top up here did one of the porces go off no it's just a dispel come on it's the
dispel damage so much damage if the portal goes off you're just dead there's no ifs and
buts about it before I go is in real danger here is you can't get healed until they
land a good use of rescue there though do is applying a relatively large shield at this
point you're gonna see this first yank going off which also leaves webbing it's
so cruel in this phase in order to maintain the space that you need first
beam coming in here that they're gonna be able to sidestep people going through
the portals the yank is gonna be interrupted it's gonna go off why
can't they yep why can't they build the bridge what someone didn't click oh
oh no the other side wasn't finished oh yeah the other side wasn't finished okay
you can't build the bridge so both sides but they have shed helpful the ad see
what's one side's done both sides are done generally speak how odd are you
especially around I think could we have a look from a point of view that was on
the other platform I don't know who that would have been maybe if we've got
a replay some maybe Jinji was on the other platform looking at the groups
Yeah, I think he swaps on the third platform yet
So if you if we can maybe have a replay of Jinji to see what's going on that other platform the fact that we can build that bridge
I'm not sure if it was because someone didn't click or not, but it was really good getting into that face
We only had one red that was on Revers earlier into that point super clean when they get there
It's like so they're just there's imminently gonna have some mega pull and once we get it
So this is Jinji's platform. He's not on the same platform as fragger
So this is good. Yeah, you're gonna see once again
You get the two ads are gonna people going in and out the portals
It wasn't the porters that caused us to die.
You have to go into the porters every 10 seconds on Mythic, otherwise they just kill you.
So you basically have people swap sides.
So let's have a little look here.
Obviously the Grip-ins are at different times.
Their ad is really low.
Okay, both of their ads are dead.
They clicked. They built theirs.
And the other side just didn't build theirs.
What? So they didn't click?
Either someone didn't click or the...
But what well it was just didn't click I can't think of any other reason it would be
neither can I but I
Wonder if they said hold because the yank was coming or something to some sort we miss communication either way
Either way whoops
You're not sure we're talking about you do actually have to activate the little pylons
That build the bridge it doesn't automatically happen when we had to die you do have to physically click
Usually you'll see mirrors are one of the tanks doing the far side and then somebody else doing the other side
As we're gonna quickly go into a pool get one more donation in rather quick as we see in the beginning part of this phase many times
We've got a five dollar donation in from blood Walker who says the work week is finally over so time to watch
How come Frago is playing dev over org and also side note favorite boss is killed Jaden in Timis Sargeras
Lots to go over that
You guys have got really bad takes today
The reason that Fraggo is playing Dev is this reason, breath.
That breath can be used every minute, it allows him to get out of the phase, it is also pretty decent.
They bring so much utility, because basically he can get out of most of the routes by himself,
as well as having the time spirals or being able to make it so the healers can move, cast on the move,
as well as having great defensive capabilities, rescues, all those sorts of things.
The utility is too high, so DEV is what's being used right now, even though the Echo has largely wanted to play AUG for every other fight, they feel that the way that the Breaths, if they have to use Breaths in order to get out of these shields, they're going to come up at times where it's not actually going to be that powerful because it really needs to be aligned with other people's cooldowns.
So I assume that's why they're making that difference.
Next time Jesse's on, we'll actually show the shield damage and you'll see it heavily favours certain people and other people just doing barely anything to it.
all by design they don't want people sending more damage than is necessary against that shield as
long as it is dead before the fourth yank. Everything's fine so they've set it up so that should go
perfectly which is also why you'll see sometimes if there is that random death going into that
phase or during that phase is they don't quite make it. It's not because they can't do it
if they sent everything but it also means they're not going to do what they need to do later.
So it's a combination of things happening that Echo needs to min-max the hell out of
In order to meet these requirements. It's not like that shield is actually that big you saw yesterday they can
Blow that shield up. Oh, yeah, it's not a big deal
But it just it means that later on they're going to struggle to do something else
So it's coming things. I mean as teetering down 5% I keep thinking he's going to get executed
But we're not
Curse us now. It's a such a rough fight. I saw many good still working on that currently
a boss is a real real tough one even for the recluse like liquid and echo echo spent a little longer the liquid
Recoling it but not free by any means even though having that reset full of extra gear only Brutes first are getting changed
But not to cave as a this spot and they're also nerfing the presa vocals. Oh, yeah
I wonder if they will nerf the raids damage because of that
Do you think they will or do they just expect you just to be able to get over to get more gear
Based on what I've seen visually with the raid frames and even combined with that massive and gulf healing that's happening with Prez
Probably like that heal absorb on Brutus was already been nerfed once and it's still actually horrendous
It's you know that it we see it just constantly going out and out and out come out resused yet again
This time it was Saul who rolled the bad dice on P1. Yeah, even it's always different. It's changing up
It's not like somebody's trolling or doing something bad
It's just a case of this fight can just trap you in an awful scenario
That's almost impossible to get off no matter how awake you are
So we'll be looking here for them to get it down
She looks 43% here comes the next yank. This is the next very very dangerous moment
It's the last one of this phase. Oh, we know I'll go just got wiped out immediately. So I think you got dragged in
Maybe I can't see his corpse actually. I think two people stood on him. I think the overlap
Or maybe you didn't have his personal up
Something like that it depends on what they're actually assigning for certain points to will be narcoleous going into this particular phase 2
Although we will have in later
Course being a melee DPS will be assigned to one of these kicks on these ads
You're going to make sure that we do have a nice backup for him
I'm sure that's already being communicated though as we're going to have people changing from one side to the other
Oh lost fraggo though as well
This might spell the beginning of the end here for echo two people dead on one of the sides
is not the nicest thing to be going through. No it absolutely isn't and yeah the rest of
the fossil got missed at the other side. So that is going to be GGs all she wrote as we fly like an eagle
to our doom. Oh man. Unfortunate as it is there's uh what when you're in a situation like this what
it's like the sort of procedure that you would go along in order to kind of fix it. I've I've
tackled this a couple of ways in guilds I've been raid leading and when I've seen the guys
hit a little bit of a funk is sometimes a pause is nice to say everyone just everyone just sit back
for a second let's have a little chat let's talk about what's going on because I think some of you
in your heads a little bit uh or either it's because what's happening can be any number of
different reasons either some people are in the heads like I can't screw up I can't screw up and
that obviously leads to less relaxation and you do tend to screw up more for other people though
they haven't screwed up in parades and then they run into a point where they're bored and
and then they start screwing up because they're like
why isn't he dying, what's going on?
And then they die, so it's more a case of like
yo, do what you need to do.
Like they tried to do it a few minutes ago,
it's like just get out of your heads.
This is fine, you've done this what we are now,
188 times.
Get out of your heads a little bit.
You guys have more than enough to do this.
We need to get followed, yes, there's a pressure on us,
but you've got to do what you need to do,
or tell me what you need to do to get yourselves there
and do it together as a team.
Like you rely on the teams to come together and be like, okay, give it a few tries where we all focus up and do things like that
So this does that work not always
Ultimately, it's a personal endeavor of the players to they will be being supported by the rest of us like come on
Let's get it together
Let's do it. But my it's it's it's tough
It really is and it does take that really good pull to really just fire everybody up
You need something to ignite them. They need one good pull right now echo
That's it. One good pull and this will turn around completely for the remainder of the night.
Well, how about, let's see exactly how they are indeed getting on right now.
Maybe we have a little listen-in with Wraith just for a short time,
and maybe it'll be good if we're not talking, because that sometimes does work as well.
So we'll be back in a few moments and we'll have a little bit of a listen-in on the cops.
Oh, I need to check where I'm at.
I need to check where I'm at.
I'm going into Blades.
We'll need something next to it, I'll check that.
and then we have late dodges, the toxins, diamond, this voice, matrix coming up, let's
dodge the blops, dodging blops and then bait and blades, and then we are ready to leg it,
Legging in and blades then you go to your position if you can't get it
Legging in, watch the blade abate and then with the blobs coming
Blobs just watch the blobs, four stacks going in two one now
now and getting ready for first group three two one now
pushing to the left dps portion first wave coming
the rest rising soon no that's fine second wave
and third wave ready for the second group
Yeah, you're going to have to go back.
Going in two, one, now.
No.
Fine, we don't need them.
Just blast, dodging only the ops and the blobs from now.
Nice, man, this is the first kick.
So that's fine.
Last one.
Oh, I'm blasting.
Oh, that's good.
I can do first, then.
And then we saw.
Watch the orbs.
Watch the orbs.
I was thinking late one there.
Yeah, it's just amazing clicks.
Spawns in two, one now.
Orbs.
Pushing it.
Pushing it, push the orbs.
I don't think I should have reminded them first.
They're on E next.
Pop the last.
No, he didn't hit the sub because...
Spawns in two, one now.
I was hopeful next.
Spawns in two, one now.
You can hold here.
Yeah.
The other team press.
Remember parcels on his pebble.
And you're getting it again.
Push it out soon.
Right on.
Big scale.
I'll take this one.
Hop on it.
I'll spin through.
Yeah.
Try to understand this thing.
Nice thing.
First truck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yup.
You call it back up? You died?
Is it easy for you wolf to kick first?
Yeah, I can easily kick first.
Yeah, I will look to the second.
There's a lot of fire.
You just spammed the turret, right?
Yeah, of course, it was like one until he went up.
And they also spammed the turret, so we didn't learn anything.
And he won't say any died drops.
Why are we still?
We're going to make seamless auto-fringe for Velo
We have a deep draft to make it stand against
Easy fix
If I kick second, it's going to be fixed
Yeah, I'll tell Marius to swap it
And yes, it's done
My quid was almost done, nothing there
Because I'm going to report it as foreshandled
Yeah
Hellvarnish, I'm not gonna know what it was
I feel like she just played they figure it out eventually on heroic and then that's it. Yeah, like I don't know we're just trying to
Direction
Folks and rate leading to the this book calls everything we're in the zone and we kill the bow
But then I know we have a lot of deaths like
I don't know man yeah that is what I was after focus on yeah it's a mission
what is happening in the intermission how can we make it easy for healers is
it lack of great cities it's nothing it's not healers people are getting
like not this it or like we need a warrior instead you guys are gonna make me
punch you in the face we need a warrior okay only thing we are dying to is
play a mistake. It's not pressing the button.
The only thing I know.
Okay, so nice move start to...
He didn't have never woke up when he just read that.
Yeah, I mean it wasn't ready.
I think you should say that at the end of the putters.
If someone, like, fucks up just say.
Yeah, I died because I'm bad.
Why did you not read it?
Because of bad blades.
How am I...
How did I not get a single heal the entire time?
The second link is full big personal, yeah.
I had blue up and I had an 8mm HP, a 20% permadear, but obviously every pool, every pool people are expecting you to never hold there.
So they just say, oh, I find he's gonna never hold this, you know.
If you don't have it for this vibe, then you have to call it back up from a pilot or something.
My thinking is this, that if you got a second rally, would mistakes like this or unfortunate things happening like this?
like this well if we had the second rally it wouldn't have even been up with
it wouldn't you wouldn't have died it wouldn't have been up but that went Mike
now but wouldn't you switch one rated CD over to the second grip if we had
another rally for example and it doesn't fix the like you got one rally
cannot solve two different like mistakes yeah I mean you're the healing
officer I'm just saying that we're dying a lot if you don't think that that's
the fix I mean I'm sure we can have a rally to fix people's mistakes but
we cannot afford at this point guys to like not press our abilities or like use something and like like we
really just need to communicate and play good for example like nice to see I see your point as well
but like you can just say like okay I don't have a network you know just play the external macro
in this area how many experiments am I going to take them no you guys take my sack or anything
but I had I had blur yeah but like Otter said they expected to immune it so obviously no one
no one is probably looking at you, because for 200% done, at least a little bit of smart healing there as well, no one...
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and I'm excited to tell you
about my company StarForge Systems.
When we founded StarForge Systems,
we had one goal in mind,
make the best computers possible for playing video games.
Now, I don't personally play video games.
I just react to TikToks, but wait, this, no,
this is not true.
Like I do play games.
Who wrote this?
I play games all the time.
I play Diablo, New World, and well,
I don't just watch other people play those games.
I also play them too.
I play them all the time.
You know what?
I own this company.
I don't have to take this.
I'm leading and the logo is a hammer.
First wave, second wave, they're lagging in with the instant blades.
They're lagging up here of course.
We have 7s.
We can have 7s with 13s.
And we have the next blades coming up.
Blobs guys, they're doing blobs.
They're doing blobs and blades here.
Blades and pools.
How they kicksteins so fast right after?
They actually got mellowed.
I didn't have breakfast
I was like, I legit
I dropped past the breakfast
for the picture
and I said
for the breakfast?
I was wondering
should we do cash
uh
it was
don't look at the breakfast
because I need
no way
let's do the prank picture
let's do the cash
bro
this is a prank
this is a prank picture
guys
it is not a prank picture
this was the stuff
I thought it was nice
I thought it was nice
I thought it was nice
I thought it was nice
I thought it was nice
Yeah, that could have been from my Twitter actually.
Oh, there's so much beans on the wall.
That's just good.
Sorry, slow down. I feel like.
No, I'm a little bit sad.
That's crazy.
I swear she was so sad, but I...
She brought me my hand, yeah.
I sprinted in, by the way,
and she saw me and said,
how's it going? Am I good?
And then he posted and the people make fun of it.
I mean, I mean, guys, I post every food we get.
And you don't know if there's like tomatoes and eggs coming after.
The thing is, you don't even understand the amount of people that are blocked on Twitter that commented, this is the static food of like a normal picture food yesterday, for example the fucking pasta with salmon on top, right?
Man, this is disgusting, yeah. And this looks like physical food ever, yeah, that's gone, yeah. That's a block angle, yeah.
If they get Samuel and Risotto in prison, they'll live in the good life
Yeah, I don't know
Yes, they'll be in the good life
It's nice to be in the good life, man
This is definitely a nice way to think, I don't care what anyone says
This is quite strange, man
What's the matter with you guys?
Are you kidding?
They live in Sweden, I don't know
I don't know, I don't know
I don't know
There's an old fucking box of fake things on one toast.
I have some more beans than the others.
I don't know.
One in the back, but I just know that there's more beans than those.
Man, I can take a nap playing.
The effect was fucking real, it was awesome.
No, it's a prank.
It is a prank.
I hope it's not a prank.
Let's get a bunch. Come on. Log in.
There's three everyone else.
This is worse than my breath and water in there.
Oh, bro, eat that.
I'm believing in speed, I'm believing in speed.
No, it's okay.
I'm believing in it, yeah, it's believing in it.
It's not a bad thing.
It saved the river.
And then the roots.
It's an orphanage for me.
I will never kill it.
Fucking disgusting UK thoughts of shit.
And then we have Blades coming up, guys.
Blades.
The king in the box.
Oh, very nice.
Very good.
How we will allow for his sake.
Very good.
Very great.
We have to do this movement one time.
Hold the room.
Very nice.
We have to call the blades.
I just deleted.
Thanks, guys.
Guys, guys.
That's okay.
I'll follow up.
I'll send it in the menu.
I just deleted like my life.
Okay, Matrix coming up now.
Focus was watching blocks.
I know we have blades coming right after.
No, the two.
It's coming right up the blade's coming here
And then push up
I don't think I know what to do
I don't think I know what to do
We had two people dead
Yeah, we can only do that
I messed up
I mean, it's...
Guys, it's sad, but it's fun too
No
But we can't
Both too hot
Yeah, both of them
Yeah, both of them
They were married to one of them
Yeah
I can lend this food picture
It actually did. I think you got it. I can bear it here.
We'll be too close.
That's fine.
I'm very checking.
I need to walk over again.
I really feel bad for you several.
And well, then you have to play Skatebase before bosses.
Now that I have to pre-play to much, I'll send it on the opposite side of the room.
You remember who nuts every single pole?
Do you see like fucking eight wallops just running?
It's so bad. Actually, I'm pulling.
and the healer is safe as well, so he died to burn emersh
that's like 3 classic
we're putting the...
and it's stamina, right?
i was contemplating not giving up
oops, into bladders
coming up here
all of the purple
and then watching the blobs
and the baits fading here
into roots after
Blades coming up
How we like it and blades coming up again
That's me and with the matrix watching blocks watching blocks
It's a place and research pools as well again. It's all too early
I don't know what's going on
Nothing happened guys
We just resorted to tank people moving
Let's coming up
I don't like it
I never thought some positions coming up
I don't mind it, I'm chilling though
Oh, like, me and Liss would never dodge that, guys
What?
He had one lane in main stronger than he had in the right
And toxin positions, get to the red ones
I'll get you red to leg it over
Legging it over, guys
I don't know what's going on
Legging it over guys.
Yeah, that's me.
And the dodging blocks.
Dodging blocks here.
This is the one guy.
We can't lose yet.
Oh, is it the one guy?
Yeah, that's me.
Yesterday was that.
Let's see if he's in permission.
Yeah, that's me.
Yeah, that was...
Yeah, so you're telling me,
if we would have been alive,
I'm trying to see
In so?
I'm the only question
Where is this place?
We are not going to meet with
Back to chat
The chat is staying in the position
It's all about that one day
Yes, that one is the hardest first
I mean, they know the chat
I mean, looking at it
It's not that bad
Would you like to again?
I had a nerve while we were speaking
I'm getting a nerf, but I think it's gonna kill the boss.
When is the same boss HP?
There is 20% HP.
I just got a call. The boss is about to get nerfed by 20%.
Oh, shit.
I'm just gonna wait for him to go to the boom.
There is nothing like...
Yeah, we're only 15% off.
You can squeeze probably, you can easily squeeze 5, I guess.
Not easily, but...
Why would the rest... the remaining 10?
That's easy because then it's secret page
Did you guys like these songs?
They make it sound like they had the perfect pull
You squeezed five months of honest
But you know like 15% is a lot of excuse
It's a lot of real hard, that's true
Did they use rank 3 potions?
Yeah, the rank 3 potions is easy
Five months of honest is technically cash
I think lots and lots of pull will make it
It doesn't matter if it's purple
You just keep squeezing and then you say
That's eventually you fucking one-shot that
This guy is like that.
I don't know what.
I'm moving here and I have blades coming up.
That's what you have to do.
Coming up.
Stop.
I think it's like I was saying that.
I'm going to bring the blobs coming up.
I'm going up here.
Be ready to bait.
Failing here into Roots of.
I think they are a proud king right now.
Open.
Relax bro.
I'm ready to lag it into blades.
In here, the blade is coming up
And blade to the toxins
Matrix coming here, dodging the blobs
Dodging blobs here
Into the blades
And push, ready to dodge
It's well rewarding here Robert
Yeah, let's walk
And then we're lagging here
The blade is coming up
Very nice, toxin positions coming up
Next, toxin positions here
Ready to lag it over
and lagging it over, good late-lates and now we're doing blocks
we're doing blocks, we're doing blocks, and damage coming in two
one, ready for first wave, first wave getting three, two, one
nice TPS spots, who should left, first wave, second wave
and third wave getting ready, personal on the script
we're coming in three two one now now you're starting waves first wave second
wave and third wave pushing the good way nice nice and interesting ready
I need the barc this guy
I need the barc this guy
1, 2, 1, now
I don't have a sub last in here
Oh yeah, I can fix it
Awesome, random kicks only though
Okay, thank you
And then 7, mini getting ready
1, 2, 1, now
We're gonna exit this guy
I need to walk around this floor
The red is
1, 2, 1, now
Legging it up
You guys wait a little bit
Up
Connection now for going here
And discipline 2
One now
That's it
End up on the right one
And nice one push
Discipline 2
One now
Rest my ass
We can rest Frago
Okay going up
Good job
Disinfect time us
I can go to portal
Toll Frago here
and just pull him through one now, dodge the boss as well
and Mike and Fulves coming up
big cross
just pull him through one now, it's fine
push it now
I would have said it better to have a slow fall hard
slow fall hard
right we can hide
yeah, right
he's right
he's right
he's right
he's right
he's right
he's right
he's right
he's right
Hello, good morning, good morning Mike
Good baits guys, good baits
Switching to the spiral link, so let me go through my...
Should have even ring, no right?
Blade, no no no
Watch the feed, watch the feed
All those pre-spreading and blades again
and all those between star and cross and far star
Blades under you now as well
and then the orbs, picking up your essences and rolling to one now, again roll some blades and blades, there you now, pick up essences, we're fine, and put baiting again ranged, rolling now, handle the adds, then this track will place again, yeah, finish the odds,
Tackles go to green circle and between green and circle
Watch the blades under you
Last adds
Be spread for the portals a bit was between circling green and green part and watch the blades at the same time now
No, it's not, it's not.
It's just pick up the souls, it's fine, look for them.
Another side.
I'm portal in one, portal, portal, portal.
The shackles in the corner.
Double it, double it.
Yes, it's just with blue farm.
Yeah, blue farm.
You need to take the ender dragon.
Yeah, it's fine.
I'm just baiting
Under here
I should add some
Adds, adds
I'm not the only one going
The only thing we're going
Gallery, nice
Everyone's blue matchlings
Next shambles is
Two times on diamond
One times on blue
I'm glad
Everyone else needs to be
probably
Probably just do the same thing
though, I'm sad, Roger
Blue for me, yeah
But no, I pick blue diamond
I'm in between yes this is piss we do be easy right we just need to make sure the
rate is not too close to where they're dropping the condemnation that's great
okay let's let's let's do quick showing I think this is it this one also while we're doing the
showing I'm not sure if it really ought to remember but I know which paddling
lay on hands to me when I had a diva maybe it is in my life I don't know but it's
It's causing issues with the lines so let's try and not...
Yeah I know I know I'd be called a bitch.
Yeah you probably might have seen my life island though it's just...
We're like I'm like holy shit I'm fucked.
We were like 10% helpful.
Exactly it's like I'm like a hell yeah.
Yeah I know.
I'm like golden rule.
I started...
...do you watch me?
I'm watching as well.
I'm just as well.
It is day 11 of Mythic
And we're already stuck in, we just had another pull in phase three, I say another, but that's carried on from yesterday.
First one today, which is amazing, we are getting stuck straight in this morning.
And we have had a few bits of news as well, which I'm sure the lovely Jesse who is joining me can talk about.
I certainly can, it's like nothing happened.
You know, we were casting P3 wipes last night, we're casting P3 wipes again this morning.
What is time? What is sleep?
Like we'd have a left here all along.
Maybe we didn't.
Um, yeah, so they, uh, obviously already having a significantly better day than they did yesterday.
Yesterday it took them most of the day to get back into the groove and return to the phase
three that they had achieved the day before.
Coming in this morning, a little bit more locked in.
We have our third pull of the day going straight into phase three with everyone alive.
Not getting as far in as we had yesterday, but also trying some strategic tweaks
to the fight caused by some nerfs that came in overnight. Blizzard did not change the boss's
health much to everyone's dismay. Are the boss health nerfs yet? No, maybe not at all. Blizzard's
been pretty on track with the nerfs this time around. Looks like they think the boss is
killable. A lot of people's boss transitions at 30% or boss transitions at 20% have been
evaporated by liquid having gotten the boss to 15.2 percent before what looks like a
Softened range of sorts that we can talk about more
But yeah, Blizzard did nerf the damage done by the shackles
Which are the big webs under players in phase three that then drop a spike that spike does proximity damage
Based on how far away you are from the spike when it drops
It was killing people that were dropping the spikes and doing a lot of damage
There's a really scary overlap where after the second round of acolytes you have seven people with essences
going directly into those shackles and that was a horrible overlap they nerf
the damage of the shackles and they nerf the damage of the essences by a little
bit not so much as to extend the fight but a little bit making it a little bit
more plausible when you have to have 12 people carrying them around yeah last
portion it's kind of the pain point in phase three right nothing too
remarkable or game-changing but definitely a pain point easing a pain
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have those comfortable secret lab chairs because the players were in until around 10 p.m. last night
and they came right in bright and early playing before 7 this morning already so only about 9
hours off which is plenty of time for you know eight hours of sleep if you can wind down quickly
enough but they're certainly shaving down on their breaks shaving down on their sleep time
gaps in order to get in on the boss and continue progressing. We have seen some
strat changes in that last phase since they made those changes to the damage of
the shackles. It's a little bit more plausible to drop them in a way that's
conducive to increased DPS instead of maximal raid safeties. So they're
dropping them next to the acolytes now, which is a little bit more
dangerous for the raid where the damage reduced by 10%. It's plausible. We heard
Potter at the end of that pull saying, oh this is easy. You know you can
easily do that. Drop them right next to the ads, the rest of the raid pulls back to the end of the
ring and it's very very safe. So they are going to be taking a look at exactly what happened in that
pull. Every time you get into phase three and have a reasonable pull, it's worth going back and
looking at a vaude for this group because they can all learn from what everyone else did wrong.
Rather than needing to get back there and someone else make the same mistake and
individually experience each mistake, you have to be able to learn from your
teammate's mistakes on this, or you're just going to extend your time in that phase
are too long. Yeah so let's see what today has in store yesterday not being the best of days having
a little bit of regression for most of the day getting back into it towards the end getting some
more phase three falls towards the end of their day and Liquid getting their new best at 15.2%
also playing absolutely phenomenally well that is great to see we have a race which is always
exciting watching the guilds battle it out between them. Let's see what Echo can achieve
for their day starting today. So it's very positive that they are getting to Phase 3 already.
It's a very good sign that I was just saying they're going to have quite a few strat changes.
Yeah. So last night when Echo went to bed, the furthest that either guild had seen was
to the wave of five acolytes. After Echo went to bed, Liquid had a couple of really
phenomenal poles where they dealt with those five acolytes. So now we know what happens next,
which we didn't know until that happened, and it's really, really interesting. So first you have,
you go into phase three, and we can put up a raid plan later to kind of demonstrate this,
but so that you can follow along at home when we get to the next one. You get into phase three,
you deal with spiders, and then you deal with the teleports, and then you get the first set
of three acolytes. Three people have to pick up those acolyte souls. That's kind of like
the tutorial phase. Those each happen one thing at a time. Once you've done that successfully,
then you go straight into, okay, now you know how this works. You get a set of shackles
and a set of acolytes at the same time. This acolyte set has four acolytes in it. Every time you
pick up a soul from those acolytes having died, you get a debuff called Essence Guard, increasing
the damage you take from picking up a soul again. Only a tank can live through that damage thus far.
So you have, round two acolytes have four souls, plus the three that dropped it first. On
Heroku Normal, those souls are destroyed by going through the portal, but I don't think that
is in the case. So the interesting thing here is that by using tanks to take souls every
time, even though they're essence guard because they can live through 1.5 million damage taken
in a second and no one else can, you can minimize the number of players who are dealing
with that excessive amount of damage. And so you have two tanks plus five additional
players pick up that second round of seven. Then you go and tackle out round number
three with five acolytes and now you have 12 souls to pick up. Those five plus
the previous four, plus the previous three. Again, two tanks can pick them up and then
10 DPS or healers need to pick up the other 10 and you are left with two players who are not debuffed yet at all.
We were speculating that perhaps after round three there was around four Evaculites with six or
something but that is not the case. You go directly into another ring and you have to
pick up the previous 12th again. In order to do that you would have two tanks pick up two,
the last two undebuffed people pick up two and then eight people who are already debuffed and
aren't tanks pick up the other eight which is going to result in almost all of them dying.
Yes it could be you know sacstrats, kind of stacking everything they have,
high immunities and pretty hard defensives and seeing how far they can get and then again
the boss HP once they get to that point still suspiciously high you know if we're seeing
the end of the fight. That being the end of the fight, that's not much wiggle room to get 15%
off the liquid and the Echo still on the 33.3% as they left their day yesterday. So it's still a
lot of boss health. It is a lot of boss health and there's a couple indications that that is the
end of the fight right. First of all, there's the fact that you can't handle that many
Acolyte souls. People are going to die trying and second is the fact that when they got that
to that point. The whole platform was covered. We were out of room. We're at the end of the site.
I will say that Liquid kind of demonstrating what we were talking about last night, which is that
your first few times getting to a particular point in the fight, you think, oh, this is an
impossible amount of health to handle. Liquid cruising right past that 30% mark, that 25%
mark, the 20% mark all the way down to 15%. And that was on just a couple of pulls that
got that far. Once again, demonstrating that these guilds can always find way more damage
than you think they can and Blizzard without changing the boss's health has demonstrated
confidence that they think that damage is available. Yeah they always find damage right and that comes
naturally of progress you know your mind is a little bit off of the fight where am I supposed to go
what am I supposed to be doing it kind of goes more into muscle memory and then you can start
really paying attention how much damage you're dealing and balance those much better so they
always find damage and that is something that we have seen in previous fights for example
So Varnus I think being one of the most notorious cases of that where the gills were really trying to get her down to 50%
and it was extremely difficult. They're getting to that 50% mark finally and realizing that she did not die, the fight did not end at 50%.
It was actually 45%, having to squeeze out another 5% damage.
Which on that fight is like 10%. So it's getting close to where we are at 15 now.
Yeah, that's very true.
Yeah.
Because you've only had like half the fight, right?
Exactly.
You only doing half the fight, so every percent is essentially 2%.
Exactly.
All right.
So we are watching them carefully.
All of their eyes are glued on their second monitors right now.
They are currently being taught by Roger in phase three,
positioning and planning school.
So while they're whining, why don't we take a look
at all of the fun that occurred yesterday
in our Star Forge flashback.
So I got you your first.
An inflatable flamingo mount.
I will wear it with pride.
So is it T-Scribe?
Oh, one and a half.
You are sugar in it.
I'm sweet enough.
Thank you.
Oh, yeah.
No, thanks.
Scribe me.
I'm sweet enough.
Adds one there.
Kind of on top of the bastard Robin going down there
from that huge hit of the invest.
Lovely and controlled to the head.
It was really good.
Can you call Mike a clown?
Thank you.
You are a clown.
Thanks for the sound bite, appreciate it.
Yeah, right brother, you are a clown.
We all stop saying that for the love of God.
You don't know what you're doing to me, right?
A bag of crisps, apparently, in the back room.
How nice is my fashion?
It's fine.
We have a 10 dollar donation.
Thank you very much for that.
We've got a 10 dollar donation in from Fabe,
who says, genuine, for the bottom of our hearts.
We have never seen the boys this well.
Ever.
We know them.
To really annoy everybody who exists right now, I can't tell you one food take on snacks that people really hate, but I go up, I just test Jaffa cakes.
They're awful!
Jesus, pull again, pull again, come on, come on.
Shut up! You can't speak, it's done.
Okay.
The royal condemnation.
It makes it infinitely harder on these platforms to do this without the entire raid alive, but not necessarily impossible.
Dying like that is impossible.
Yeah, that would make it very hard.
Would you just buy a walker?
True. I don't know if it's stupid.
There's Chinese food you can buy from anyway.
I didn't say that.
Lizzie, do you want her or not me?
I'm over here.
Remember, I was eating that all the time.
It's about a large penis.
I'm like, huh?
Yeah, pretty much.
I feel like a blue and bubble gum pit.
What did you just say?
It's very sticky, oh mate, I'm moving on.
It's a bunch of minigames, like the Pet Battles, PvP, stuff like that.
PvP's a minigame?
And there we go, an essence taken out by the ring!
But as you said, a new best for Echo!
Excellent to see you!
So this is the chicken, this is the chicken.
What's this?
The samples of chicken.
Alright, what's the part of the chicken?
Wing wing wing wing wing wing wing wing wing wing wing wing!
Hello?
What is this then?
What was that then?
I don't know, did they call while we were talking?
No, that was Perfecto's character.
They're doing something...
Maybe we weren't supposed to see that.
Who knows?
You saw nothing.
Splinter Echo there, getting back into Phase 3.
This is exactly what we want to see from them.
A false Falvour, false Falvour, false Falvour, kid.
We'll get less than 7 seconds.
Less than 6.
Well, we have to end our meditation first.
Okay, you lead the last meditation.
Deep breath in through your mouth for five seconds.
One, two, three, four, five.
And out through your nose for seven seconds.
You are valid, you are wanted.
Have a big, a small, or a medium sized Friday.
We'll be right back.
We had our brilliant starboard flashback there
We were both giggling along watching they are the highlight of my day. They're really really good
They are all on YouTube by the way head over there and check them out for all of the summaries of our last I
Don't even know three weeks of being here through heroic week and the 11 days of mythic thus far
I don't even know if I can breathe in and out for seven seconds. That sounds wild hold on. Let's try ready
We need to breathe in for five
How long was that?
I did five. Now out for seven.
Are we done yet?
Yeah. How was it?
Very relaxing.
Was it?
Yeah.
I feel kind of tense.
Oh, dear.
I feel stress trying to breathe for that long.
I don't know about this meditation thing.
I'm a little bit antsy now.
We are up on the platform in a phase two pole,
and I've got the jitters.
And now I feel worse.
I don't know about this meditation bit.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Sounds a bit like exercise.
overrated unneeded
Medic in the flashback there. We will miss him. He said he had to go to worlds or something some kind of event
Doesn't sound very important to me some kind of e-sports event that isn't world of warcraft
That's for sure unfortunately mirrors going down here
He has a battle reds
But that means that the odds on his side are running free and they clap brevis as well
We have another battle res available for him
Mastin however going down means that we only get one of those two the battle
resume is going to not work because we are out of combat resist but we have
completed the second platform of phase two which is by far the more difficult of
the three going on to the third platform looking for another phase three
pole this would be the second one in a row we do have about 20 seconds until
the cast kills everyone if these ads aren't killed in time so I think we're
to make it into phase three yet again. Yeah making sure that they are destabilizing the
portals here as they move on over to phase three again this is excellent for them the res does go
out on Reves hopefully can take it when they get to this side of the platform but we'll see
again another phase three pull this is brilliant the start of the day. We see the symbol of hope
coming up for rice and the reset everyone's personal because this is at a
very damaged heavy phase we're gonna go over it with you right now we're first
going to have the boss land if you stand in that circle you do die we saw
that happen a couple of times yesterday so that's a well done science all the
rate is gonna bait puddles over here because when the tank buster goes out
you also spawn puddles and platform management is extraordinarily important
now the ads coming out of the invest cast you need to keep them away from
the boss it's even one touch is there it is likely to be a wipe so
they're gonna CC that oppressive roar increasing the duration of CC's into the
Chaos Nova into the Lexus, keeping all those adds dead as we head into the first round of Acolytes.
Yeah, I think that's just a little bit of a visual bug there, no res on Revers,
which is nice to see the boss moved a little bit away so that they have a little bit more time to kill them
without Revers' cooldowns. They'll be a little bit slower.
We have the portals going out that we'll need to use to cross over the big Voidi ring
that will be coming out as they're picking out the... just adding extra angles here, why not?
Even Hunter Angle when he sees your healer go down.
Unfortunately, Fanner dying right before the portals is going to make this rather difficult.
We see Rice and Mirrors and Frago picking up the souls of the acolytes they slayed.
Everyone making their way over that wave as best they can.
A few people able to completely avoid going through the portal,
which means you have a little bit more room every time you go through the portal.
You get that circle that you have to spread out with.
We now have Jinji and Fanner and Revis all ground POV waiting for the next battle
is for a healer because for now we are three healing.
Everyone heading over to bait the gloom puddles on the edge once more because we're going into the second round of spiders
And they are followed up in just a couple of seconds by the second round of four acolytes
So those spiders need to be dead because this is the hardest overlap of the fight thus far shackles coming down are going to be
Placed next to the acolyte so they can cleave both the acolytes and the shackles at the same time
Yeah, the bloodlust has gone out
They'll need to make sure that they are nuking at these acolytes as well as the shackles which are attaching to the entire raid
I'm taking quite a bit of damage. We unfortunately do lose mares and they will need to make sure that they are
Interrupting these adds watch the shield breaks as well. All right get the shackles down
Kill the the acolytes
Yeah, they're running out of time with about half the raid dead including a healer and a tank
There's one more acolyte with two million health. Okay, it's down now
There are seven souls three old ones and four new ones from these four acolytes
We're not gonna be able to successfully get all of those through these portal
So this is going to be the end of the poll.
However, really great poll for our fourth poll of the day, second poll of the day,
into phase three in a row, and we're pushing further forward.
Re-familiarizing yourself with the new and updated strats.
We did see there that they got their baiting better on the pools and they
got those shackles dropped near the acolytes for cleave damage.
Yeah.
They have, they have muted that up quite a bit.
Again, there's a lot of particularly difficult parts of this fight,
entire way through by no means is it easy I think sometimes when you've done it
over and over again and it looks like a dance it looks very fluid it looks very
graceful but it is really extremely difficult requiring a lot of the players
in the moment especially the randomness of the web blades and everything else
that's going out so it's still a little bit of mistakes here and there but
getting to phase three is really it's a really good sign especially after
yesterday where they were struggling to get into phase three for most of the
day, not getting there until the very, very end of their day to be
starting off like this is a really positive, good start.
It is. It is. Absolutely true. We see a few looks at the second
monitor. So perhaps going over a few things, they want to
continue to iron out exactly what the positioning and
movement will be. Making sure everyone knows because it's so
fast paced ones you're in that phase. And you get there so
rarely, even if you're getting there consistently, it takes
seven minutes to even get to that point. So a limited
opportunity for any one individual to practice particularly because she picks
two people for the first portal, the second portal, the third portal. Your odds
of getting those are very very low on any individual poll so when you do get it
we can't have everyone wipe every time they get a new portal because they
don't know where to go. You need to already know even though you haven't
been able to practice it each time you go there. Similarly with the shackles
we can't wipe just because you haven't had a shackle before which is
random on three players you need to know where to go so they're
constantly reinforcing that, ensuring everyone knows that strategy. Lots of things they can
still improve, absolutely, but that was still a best pull of the day and good to see that
they're getting consistency in that phase. I'm curious to see as they continue on whether
we will see them making use of gateways in order to make more precise and improved
shackles. Yeah, perhaps, because Alex did a little bit of a diagram yesterday, didn't
where he kind of very nicely explained how they could possibly deal with the shackles and the placement depending on where they spread out to
They haven't utilized the warlock gate too much. I suppose there's not really a need
Don't have to use the warlock gate. The only use I've seen of the warlock gateway thus far has been in phase one
During the intermission to get away away from the right when you get web yanked called rest in that intermission
It drops pools under you
so you want to bait those in or next to already existing pools.
Ryzen takes that, gets Yang basically into a pool where a gateway is,
and then gateways away in order to use some healing.
So they have done that.
Another thing is LUS timing.
Yesterday, we were really struggling in Phase 2 for most of the day,
had to commit to LUS in Phase 2 in order to get past that second platform,
which is so viciously hard to heal through with 5 million raid damage every 10 seconds.
Today, thus far, we are saving it successfully into Phase 3.
The goal, of course, is to put the Bloodlust
at the point where there's the most total damage necessary,
which is that last round of spiders into shackles,
into five acolytes.
That is where they want the bloodlust.
Of course, this time,
with several people dying before the four acolytes,
they had no shot of getting through that
unless they did commit the bloodlust, which they did,
and still had a lot of people go down
because we were missing thinner.
So obviously gonna use that bloodlust as an emergency
to improve progression on each individual pull,
but for a kill condition,
that's gonna need to be moved
to the point where it enables them
just deal with the huge amount of health, just the raw health on the board of spiders plus
shackles plus five aquaites.
Yeah, there's also a lot of damage going out at that point as well, so I'm sure the healers
can make use of the loss there, so it's very good to see that loss moved.
You will see it moved various times through progress because you'll have various pain
points, you know, very early on opting to lost on pole, and then later on lost
in the intermission because they're to burn through the shield once they got more
comfortable with that and they were able to you know produce enough damage they
could move the lost off of there they would then opt into lost into phase two
which again makes sense all of those ads being extremely dangerous having to get
through there as quickly as possible so we're gonna see a few different
movements with the probable endpoint being that final overlap but I do
wonder if they can get through without and if if that's true we're gonna
I see a lost on pull, because losting on pull is where you get the most out of the bloodlust
because everybody has their cooldowns.
Across the different specs, the different classes, you'll have major cooldowns on completely
different timers.
So I'm being 3 minutes, 2 minutes, 1 and a half minutes.
So on pull everybody has everything, everybody can use their DPS pots for example together.
So Boblasting on Paul being most optimal for damage and because this fight doesn't transition
based on health percentage, it transitions based on a timer, any damage that they deal
in phase one will be less that they have to deal in the last phase.
It carries over, um, improvements rate is like frack, for example, would transition
at 70% health.
So what you'd find is the groups holding damage because they didn't want to transition
at the wrong time.
That not being the case on this fight, I wouldn't be surprised if when they're
really trying to go for the kill the bloodlust and pull but that is still very scary at that very
end point isn't it you could be right certainly for pure you know boss health depletion you're
absolutely correct i think that the bloodlust and pull would be optimal um but i doubt we'll see
that for a long time because for that to be the case you'll need to successfully getting past the
five acolyte wave every single time without bloodlust and that's not going to happen for a while
We still haven't seen or dealt with the five aclyte wave in this group yet
We are also seeing a lot of damage optimization go out in terms of cooldown usage such as for example potions
Echo is still using potions in the intermission to get through the shield without bloodlust prior to getting the third rest
During the intermission the boss periodically grabs everyone spider webs yanks them toward her. That's called rest
WR EST not rest as in rest in your grave
Everyone takes a little nap
They that damage from that rest amplifies very very quickly
Going from three to four million damage per person to five to six million damage per person to seven to eight million damage
Person on the third one they want to skip that third one and they're committing DPS
Potions there in order to do so again much like you're saying they could get more damage out of those DPS
Potions if they use them on pole for example where everyone has cooldowns for during lust where everyone wants to have cooldowns and damage
potions as well obviously damage potions on a long but not lust long cooldown you
want to optimize those uses and we'll see if they can get more damage on the boss
by using them outside of the shield because while you do have to get through
the shield and that is important it is the only part that doesn't really
contribute to your phase three progress because while the boss a shield that
she doesn't take any damage and as far as we know there isn't a length-based
hard-in-rage of 10 minutes or 15 minutes that would require you to
through the shield faster, you can conceive of a world where if you could live, you would hold
damage off the shield, live through the shield longer and commit that damage elsewhere would
actually contribute to boss health depletion. So I wouldn't be surprised to see those potions
coming off that if they can find a way to either make up the damage and still skip the third rest
or simply commit to living through that third rest regardless. Yeah, it just seemed like
they're having a bit more of a discussion in terms of strut, which makes absolute sense.
we are getting some consistent phase three pulls this morning needs to get figure out and have a
little bit of a discussion on exactly where we're taking every single you know different piece of the
puzzle in that last phase especially the shackles um and you know they also have to have the damage
distribution method to be deciding who's popping on that say the small spiders they really need
to die which are dropped next to the boss they can't reach the boss they need to die as
as soon as possible. So we need to allocate some damage there, but also allocating damage
not only onto the shackles, but also the acolytes. They're needing to die as a priority target.
Everything seemingly being a priority target in that phase.
Yes, everything is a priority target in that phase. Everything is very threatening. Spiders
don't die. You wipe when they touch the boss. The shackles don't die. They're doing
increasing damage and increasing pulling on everyone and that disrupts you from dealing
with the acolytes. If the acolytes don't die, you wipe because they're constantly
sending casts and there's a hardened rage on the acolytes dying because if they're
still up when the ring comes in you simply all die but meanwhile the boss is the priority target
and health needs reached a zero apparently and that's a very difficult thing to do so you're
constantly going to be looking for ways to optimize that damage on the boss now secret phase at 10%
Jesse trust me the copium coming in we all have it every single time i don't i'm not a believer
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Yeah. We have quite a few incentives.
We still have the Raider portraits to complete.
And if we reach 35,000, we have the Meru Bar.
We'll have a wide assortment of mocktails,
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may or may not contain beans and some being quite nice.
I'm not drinking beans.
I'm just saying it.
Not going to do it.
Not going to happen.
That's disgusting.
We are in phase one here, which should be like clockwork for our friends who have done
that 234 times.
Not all successfully.
We've had plenty of P1 whites, but still a lot of pulls in this phase.
Yeah.
I was just thinking the liquid, let's say pool count, a fun thing to talk about,
not a metric to be taken too seriously. 300 pulls, that is a lot in comparison to previous
end bosses. Again, not the metric you should totally blindly follow, it doesn't necessarily
mean that it's harder than boss counts with lower pulls because the phase one is extremely
difficult and if the phase one is more difficult than phase ones in previous end bosses, you're
going to have a lot more wipes which is going to up your pull count but you may
have the same amount of time spent on the boss. So, you know, it's just a fun
to talk about but the fact that we're getting to 300 is to me is just kind of wild.
Yeah it's a high pull count boss that it's also very clearly a very difficult boss and we're not
near the end yet. Liquid spent so far there day to day going from 30% to 15% which is
significant progress, very very admirable, but still demonstrating that there's a lot of
boss left to go. We're going into an admission here maybe we can go to Mini POV because Mini
He is playing that death knight really chilling in this phase.
He takes this first rest and then he's going to end up going next to the boss, shuffling
off to the side by himself and using death knight utility to ignore everything else that
happened in this phase.
AMS and death's advance, preventing him from having to worry about the rests or any of
the other damage.
He's just going to pop that breath and starts pommeling the boss with that potion.
You can see him climbing on the meters because he's the only one in the raid that never
Never has to run, never has to flee, doesn't have to move, just sits there and tunnels that
breath right into the boss.
Yeah, with the AMS nullifying the drag that the boss is doing, pulling everyone towards
her, but not Mini.
Mini can make sure that he is getting that damage out as they do just break the shield.
Very, very nice.
Having a little bit of uptime on the boss now as they move on over to phase two, which
by no means is not easy.
No.
You know sometimes you can say oh this is the ad phase you know how far hard can an ad phase be this is a very difficult ad phase
There is so much damage going out
You can see on the right hand side of the screen right now
Many has shown you the boss frames with that devoted worshipper those cosmic apocalypse casts are already going about 50 seconds
remaining if you don't kill them before that goes off you wipe and that timer is already running the
Moment they spawn in at the beginning of the spades giving you a very difficult DPS check to get through meanwhile
You have to disrupt these portals on each platform every 10 seconds if you don't go through them they explode
So constantly rotating through two people going through in the top left
You can see a week where that's currently says canyx and narco
Those are the next two people that need to go through that portal
And you see the timer ticking down saying when they have to go through now that timer is not correct
It resets when they change platforms you get a new set of shields
So they have seven seconds now to go through you see canyx to get that box
so they can ignore this pull-in and get in safely. Otherwise that pull-in coincides with the time he has to go in
and he gets pulled away from it. And we've had a lot of wipes to make a mistake with that portal.
Meanwhile, you have to deal with the debuffs coming in from not only the portal, but also the ads in this phase.
Yeah, the gloom dispel dealing a lot of damage to the person that it goes on and also needing to
be removed and once removed dealing raid-wide damages. They are moving to the third and final
platform once again being on a tight DPS check making sure that they are disarming the portals
they can't be too they've never been maxed these portals because they want as least the gloom buffs
debuffs as possible large amounts of damage to the raid absolutely true you can see that time
to wipe ticking acidic apocalypse being cast with 10 seconds remaining we're coming off the
platform with hopeful dead however we do have two combat resists his body gets pulled over
here as well so they're gonna be able to pick him up. We get off the platforms
without about 10 seconds remaining on that cast and the boss goes into a 20
second cast of aphotic communion giving you a nice little window to reset
everyone's cooldowns with a symbol of hope get everyone topped get hopeful
rez perhaps although his floor is I see his body on his screen is still on a
platform so he's gonna need to wait until he's in range of a rez. Meanwhile
everyone of the range is coming all the way over here into this corner to
bait the gloom very very important because at the end of this fight
You're going to see the entire room covered in gloom and the degree to which you can minimize that is very valuable
The spider is coming out from that infest the oppressive roar going and then the chaos Nova stunning them and the Ursul's vortex holding them in place
So that Revis can a we them down and prevent them from reaching the boss
No longer being as greedy as we were yesterday with min-maxing that damage on the boss during the spider links
Yeah, unfortunately
They're gonna get the reds out on hopeful because his body hadn't moved from the previous platform to this platform until the boss
started, uh, brought in the
with the tank debuff. So, they
after his body moved placing the
now. This is once again kind of
repeat with the very, very
I've been the three souls to
as they are now crossing the
crossing over the portal. Why
not? Uh crossing over the way
by not taking the portal,
Zeruo dropping very, very low.
Yeah, so instead of Robin picking up a soul there, they had been having Mirrors, Robin
and Ryzen pick up a soul, but that time they changed it and Zeruo picked up a soul instead.
It also looks like Velo has a debuff from the Essence Guard accidentally, so we have
four Essence Guard instead of the three that we were supposed to have had, some kind
of minor area occurring there.
Robin does die, we have one battle rise available for him, need to get that
shackles coming down now and they're gonna place these shackles right next to
these acolytes. Unfortunately I think a spider reached the boss it popped for an
enormous amount of damage and that means the boss is doing 50% more damage
right now which is cripplingly difficult with all of the damage sources of this
fight. So that's gonna make things very hard. We have four DPS currently dead,
five now DPS dead which makes dealing with this round of four acolytes
difficult. Two acolytes remaining you have a shield on them that prevents
from being kicked you have to break that shield and then kick their null
detonation which does very high damage ramping up but they do get all the
acolytes dead with five people down they have just enough players to pick up
all seven souls as they attempt to traverse this portal and prevent them
from being run over by this ring. Yes it is very important that they pick up
these souls as if any of them touch this ring they will explode wiping the
raid as they are getting through there so we have the next set of shackles
Spacing the three over to the side. We got all three of them got stacked up there
I would still like to see a gateway going down to make it easier for everyone to get those stacked
But they got them stacked. Unfortunately, of course with Vayner down. I'm sorry
He's still up with with half the rate down
It's very difficult to deal with killing all of the shackles now
They very well they place all of the hatchlings from the infest right on the shackles
So extraordinarily good cleave happening here as the spiders and shackles are stacked up
But with so many DPS dead many of the spiderlings are reaching the boss
which is going to wipe us quickly. But the great news here is that we now have three phase three
pulls in a row out of five pulls of the morning. Incredible consistent getting into phase three
and continuing to push further forward and forward as they adapt to the strategies that
Roger is giving them with where they're supposed to go and what. They did get all of those
royal condemnations. The shackles stacked up, three of those stacked up away from the
raid exactly like they wanted to in the second round. And they got the spiders dropped
right on top of them too that's ideal for cleave. Yeah because you want to make
sure that you're killing them right if you have one quite far away from the
boss it's not in cleave range and you also have to hard switch and target it
separately it's gonna go down much much slower and they'll have three of them to
kill as well as all the acolytes so getting to that third round of acolytes
where you have the five or the four sorry was was really good to see. It
It was indeed and we also have now had a couple of different attempts at practicing what looks
to be the scariest healing overlap of that portion of the fight thus far, which is when
the second round of Acolytes, with four Acolytes dies, you have to pick up seven essences
and carry them across the wave through the portal.
That does an enormous amount of damage to those seven people.
Then you also immediately thereafter have those three shackles coming down, which
because another big burst of raid damage to everyone in the raid, we lost people there.
So a lot of optimization to be done, moving whatever personals and raid cooldowns we need
in order to have enough healing, in order to have enough VR to live through that.
That hasn't been done correctly, so that's going to be right for Potter's intervention,
Potter having joined the raid this tier for the first time in a while.
Yeah, it's nice to see him back in and have Potter doing what he was.
Well originally Potter was the healer calling the healer call downs and then Ryzen stepped
out, overtook Chris Potter doing that and stepped out from playing but he really wanted to
get stuck in again, he really wanted to start playing again and Chris Potter coming back
making all of the healing cause as he is I mean I just goes I just very much admire
them that they are sitting there matting out these fights and calling all of these
important changes with Potter always having backup plans as well which came into play on
was it the bloodbound horror where it went very pear shaped but he had cooldowns ready for if it
did knowing that the raiders were going to just meme around on the earlier bosses and then when
things were going slightly wrong he had cooldowns ready to cool. Yeah absolutely showing some
flexibility on this boss that that did happen a couple of times on the early
bosses where they nearly wiped but had things in the tank as you as you say on
this boss of course the demands of the fight are so stringent and so
extraordinary that you're really using every single button to deal with what
the fight is throwing at you in terms of you know unavoidable damage and not
leaving a many tools in the tank to deal with you know people having made
mistakes or things like that he's going to be staring at those spreadsheets
trying to make sure that they have enough cooldowns to live through the
scary overlaps in phase three which they've now seen four or five times. Today with a slightly
different strategy resulting in higher royal condemnation damage because the shackles,
which is what the royal condemnation is, are being dropped a little bit closer to the raid.
So we have the overlap that we've now had several deaths to, several pulls in a row,
which is that seven souls on the raid, each one of those picking for 600-700 thousand damage
per second per player into the shackle drops, which hits for another couple million damage per
player and all of that damage needs to be mitigated and healed but we all know in the
back of her head coming soon after that is the five acolytes which do a lot of damage
themselves as well. Yeah and that's kind of like the end of the fight right that's the
five that you have the enormous amount of souls onto the raid and you can't really survive
much past that but also with the liquid getting to that point and the pulsing rings
going across the platform that is the stopping point. Yeah you have. We are seeing
a lot. We've seen pretty much most of the fight now. Yeah, from from Liquid's POV, I think Liquid has
seen basically the entire fight that's plausible to do on that platform because they run out of
space and you run out of bodies to carry the acolyte souls around. You get the third wave of
acolyte, which has five acolytes, leaving you with 12 souls to pick up and traverse across the
incoming void ring. You can do that once. You have enough players to carry those souls once,
But then everyone in the raid is debuffed with essence guard increasing the damage you take from those souls by
500% taking it from something that is livable with difficulty for everyone six or seven hundred thousand damage to something that is
Essentially unlivable by anyone except tanks going to 1.5 to 2 million damage per tick
That's not gonna be livable once you get the second round
So you get the I get the acolytes you carry their souls across the wave
Then you get a DPS window where you can just burn the boss
And I think that's basically the last CPS window of the fight because when she summons the next wave
Which happens only about a minute later from wave into another wave is that mechanic?
That is when you're going to wipe you don't have enough people to carry the soul
So we're hoping for echo with their extraordinary
Consistency this morning to get to that point and see that so they can start optimizing damage
Yeah, we have our whole day ahead of us
So kind of fixing the and tweaking these strats in terms of where the place in the shackles
where they're allocating the damage for every set of adds in that final phase, kind of getting
through that, deciding that very early on and getting that practice in, it's going to set
them up for an excellent day of progress, as you're saying, so we can find the damage
ready to take the boss down. Do you think there's much chance of it going down today?
Nope.
You still think tomorrow?
I still think Sunday. Yeah, I've been saying Sunday for a while. I think that's still
possible. I think that Liquid has demonstrated the boss is within the realm of possibility to kill,
although it's still hard and there's still a lot of health left. Millions and millions of health
with 15% left. I think that the guild probably can find the damage, but I don't know that it's
going to occur today. I could get surprised if Echo has a streak of just running into Phase 3
every single time. And after the first two pulls of the day, they've been in Phase 3
three times in a row. Every time you get in there, you get further into the fight. Every
every time you get in there, you optimize your damage, you find ways to get more DPS
on the boss, you clean up how you execute your movement.
That practice is so incredibly valuable.
Taking the Phase 3 from being this novel, difficult thing where you're constantly thinking,
okay, where did Roger say to go?
What was I supposed to do with this?
What am I supposed to do here?
Two, very, very smooth, you know, exactly what to do with second nature, just like
Phase 1.
That gives you huge amounts of additional damage and clean cleanliness in the phase.
Yeah, especially for the range and the casters, because once you know where you're going with
the next mechanic and you kind of plot out that platform, you can position yourself in
a way to minimize your movement, make sure that you're already into position, and cleaning
up your movement and positioning brings so much damage for a caster.
So they can find their feet in that final phase.
And yeah, a lot of damage will come with that.
Absolutely.
This is turning into a little bit of a melee boss.
You see Narcolees, who's had kind of a storied history with not only the guild and the progression.
You see Narcolees coming on a death knight for one boss.
You see Narcolees coming on a rogue for one boss.
He has come in several times, this tier, on a death knight and now on the paladin.
Finally Narcolees in on the rep paladin on the last boss of a tier, which is a very
rare occurrence showing up on his aptly named Narcoleide.
It's OG.
Yeah, it's OG character, right?
He's always been like kind of a rep paladin.
He's always been a rep-pellet in man. Yeah, but he's never actually able to play it because it's typically, you know
Not great on end bosses. It's kind of an aoe specialist
But on this fight getting a lot of values
You know, he's right up there with the revenues nice memes kush and clicks the five melee cartel
Topping the meters as they go into that last phase with an enormous amount of aoe huge amounts of cleave necessary
High uptime with less movement necessary
Although we have been seeing some very ethical movement from kush for example
who is assigned to traverse the portals in phase two during his cool downs on the ad
and he just walks out to the portal and stands there for a second and gets through it without ever risking missing it.
Very, very ethical gameplay. I am seeing a couple of extra chairs or empty chairs and other players looking at their monitors
So I'm not sure if we're currently strategizing or simply waiting for the go. We
What is Skype doing? Yeah, I think it's a chair on Roger and Scrypt. Yeah
Yeah. Where are they?
Mirror's looking at a second monitor.
Yeah, it seems like Roger and Scrape.
Wine timing a little bit perhaps.
Yeah, have been a little bit of wine time.
A little bit of wine time.
Excellent.
We're having the time for some morning coffee.
We haven't updated your emotes yet this morning.
Oh, no.
What do we have?
We have the hold.
It's kind of a, kind of, um...
It's the theme of it right now, isn't it?
Hold?
Can they get into phase three every pull?
Can they make meaningful progress through the face?
Whole?
What do we have here?
I don't think it's time for this.
These are the emotes that Jordan drew yesterday.
It was funny because I was just staying there in the classroom
with my coloring pens.
Yeah, it was so wholesome.
I don't think we need disparage.
We're hopefuling today.
I think it's Blalototh.
Blalototh.
You guys know what they say.
If you see Blalototh, you type Blalototh.
Oh, yeah.
No.
I think that's one of the most favorite contestant.
I see Blueletop, I say, I type Blueletop, there you go.
Yeah, I see Blueletop, I type Blueletop.
I see a Ready Check.
Oh!
And I see a Raid Leader.
Now they have unleashed.
I press no.
I always push yes even if I'm not ready.
Half the time you push yes and then you say,
wait, I'm not ready.
It's almost an automatic response, right?
The Ready Check goes out, you press ready,
and then the pull timer comes up and you go,
why are we pulling, I'm not ready.
And then you said ready on the ready check
and you're just not aware that the ready check even went out.
They have unleashed the jailer tech
in which mirrors raid leads phase one and phase two.
Yesterday mirrors was raid leading phase one
and then Scrap would come in to get them through phase two
which was a difficult sticking point yesterday.
Today mirrors is raid leading phase one and phase two
and Scrap is only coming in for phase three.
This is really good for them because not only does it
create this atmosphere and environment of normalcy
because Mirz is the raid leader on farm.
It also lets Scribe continue to work on strategies,
positioning, planning and planning out his raid leading
when they get into the last phase
to try to help them all through what is
still relatively unpracticed and unfamiliar.
We see Nice memes doing his little hero play,
jumping off the platform with a blur
in order to reduce the likelihood
that his big circle will hit his friends,
increasing his uptime a little bit
instead of having to run far away on the platform.
We've seen that mess up one time
as he went falling in that StarFord flashback
other than that. Oh, yeah, it's so well. That was a little bit of funny movement. It's always,
you know, that they could be doing this boss for 234 pulls and then one pull out of all of those
next full. You just have something happen that's never happened before. Yeah, it's funny when
someone falls on the platform. I don't care who you are. That's just that's just good
content. That's always comedy. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. Especially if you're a demon hunter.
Yep, although I think it's a good one that's anyone.
The first few times I saw that happening I wondered what was going on because I couldn't
tell it was nice memes, but it makes sense that it would be a demon hunter or maybe an
evoker, someone who can collide back on.
Boop!
Popping over that nova.
This is a lot going on, but it's well-practiced and good to see we're not losing people
because this can be a very difficult phase.
After 230 pulls it looks much easier than it is, particularly in regards to the damage
coming in.
coming up on that two minute and 20 second marker after this upcoming set of blades where
they have kind of the wombo combo of phase one. And the positioning and movement they
do here is highly choreographed to the point where it looks like a dance but took a long
time to work out. We're going to get this round of toxins, four different bombs going
out all at the same time. They're going to be placed in front of the raid so that
they can bait these roots behind the raid, drop the silk off of the bombs,
run as far in front as they can get to bait these blades off of the bombs so that they
can then safely get in the bombs and pop them as Nova comes out at largely the same time.
A huge concentration of mechanics occurring in a very short time.
Yeah, as we are going into the intermission and serving as much space as possible at that
point.
Oh no, that was tragic.
We lost our hand.
We have Rice and Popping Divine Hymn there because we have a four stack of the frothy
toxin into a four stack of willingly toxin into a rest and Rice and Pops are the Hymn
there which of course not only channels and does a huge amount of healing but also leaves
a hot and a healing buff on everyone in the raid but healing got one tick of it there
dramatically reducing the healing that does luckily however evokers around to carry
the healing anyway.
Yeah they are doing such a huge amount of healing as well if you're just looking at the
meters of the low being 2.5 million healing they are absolutely
Pumping this tears the shield is just about to break up
And fortunately needs to do it before that grip in that was very very close. Yep
We miss the damage check. Yeah, something did go wrong many
making his way to the top of the DPS chart on that pole because he goes from
middle-of-the-pack damage to top damage on the shield every single other person in
the raid having to flee from the shield mini just blasting that breath of
cindered gosa I'm not entirely sure what went wrong there they may have been in
fact I kind of want to go over to the analysts that can check we talked
earlier about how important it is to find more damage on the boss and they're
currently using potions on the shield which in terms of boss health
depletion it's kind of a waste I wonder if we just tried not using potions
on that shield in order to get through it and miss the damage check by a
little bit. I would be surprised if they were optimizing that damage at this point, but it
might have to happen sometime, so that would make sense if that's what happened, because
they're currently trying to only get two of the Yanks, two of the Pull-Ins, which do
escalating damage each time, that third one executing them. You can live through it.
Early in the progress, they were getting three and living through it, but to do so,
you have to use things like Oramastery and Rallying Cry that you're trying to
save for Phase 2 instead.
Yes, if they can move the potions off of the shield, that's again going to add
towards the boss health and as we keep saying they need to get that boss health help out from
somewhere liquid on their best pull being on 15% again a large amount of boss health so they can
move their dps pots off of the intermission that's going to go towards quite a lot of the rest of
the fight right at the boss health um yeah I wonder if there I what I what I want to do is I
want to hop over the desk and see if they what happened with that set maybe they use potions
or not and I'm also curious what they're saying so maybe we can have a little bit of
listening with wave and see if they're doing some bps optimization talking about potions
or figuring out what's going in that last phase this is the day this is serious it's a start here
on the left i mean i should have uh helped part of before time like this happens
and then we have roots and the blades follow your king no one follows your clicks yeah
Yeah, I don't want to go on the edge because then you get fucking knocked off.
Yes, it's not taking command today.
I don't think he cares.
I need to drop on the next set of routes.
That's fine, we can kill you.
One of the boats.
These routes are easy to kill I think.
Okay.
Let's be under the boats.
Go under the boats.
We're heading here.
Then we kill Hope for the route before we run away guys.
Then Hope for the route, Taktak and then Blades coming.
This is all over your lane now.
Good.
Yes
Good job all good
And then blades coming up again blades coming up again at the pocket and matrix coming up here
Watching blobs into the blades
Let's getting ready and we have nice roots
Ready to leg it and blades after
Leads coming up here oxen positions coming up make sure to go to your marker if you can't get it ready to leg it over
Good play bates coming up. What the fuck?
All on range and watch the blobs guys watching blobs
Watching blobs damage in three two one now you can wrestle after getting ready for the group
We're growing in three two
One now and the best part result
Watching first wave
Did you lose your coolness?
Second wave and third wave ready for the grip
Person is here, rip coming up in two one now
So that
But Velo as well say something if you need something say something. I don't know why you're dying
I didn't press I don't know
I mean if you fix your
Reminders I think it's more clear. I don't know the NAKO tank
I'm pressing...
I'm just here at your global...
Let's not overthink this.
Let's go again.
What happened to Sordo on his...
Now I'm a healer, a voker, taking my trigger from now on, actually.
Is that possible?
My trigger?
Yeah, trigger crossed on the quadra.
I guess I changed my cooldowns, I want to have cooldowns around that time.
And before I like made space by sitting in a turtle behind,
and I really didn't want to do that during my cooldowns yet.
That's...
2 minutes to be to line up better right into pre-fire
yeah yeah we're in that make sense and he love that
I think it's all they've all course in mind we can do it
we're gaining at the moment that can power us right
I'm not sure if it's open cross yeah I don't know what to do
yeah I don't know what to do
boom well your third cross now like this one here right just so you know I guess
I guess it's called with the big regal so what?
I guess with direction.
I mean you shouldn't go, I think you should just hover like feeling further behind like towards
where we're going in intermission instead of where I want.
Because mine is like between...
Yeah, that's the problem I guess.
Yeah, it's free.
Healing is not going to get grieved by this, right?
No.
I'm thinking, but yeah, that's why I asked.
Okay, that's it, problem.
One person needs a druid buff.
Ready for baits, got baits.
And then we're lagging it here into blades.
Blades coming up.
Oh, got diamond.
Oh, looking good.
And ready for block baits.
Block ways.
First wave, second wave.
Baiting here into roots.
Lagging it, blades coming up.
It's almost deaf.
Blades coming up again.
You know, like that.
Matrix coming up, dodging the blobs, dodging the blobs, and blades coming up.
Blades here, into pools.
But we can resume, and then we're lagging it into blades.
Blades coming up here, ready for toxin positions.
Make sure to go there if you can get it.
Ready to lag it over.
Getting good blades.
Bellow your trigger costs.
Bellow your trigger costs.
And the dodging blobs dodging blobs guys
image and two one now
Mike
rip going in three two
One now
Best parts shovel to the left first wave
second wave and
third wave
Defensives
rip in two
One now and shove it to the left first wave
Second wave and that way if you really slow watch out
pushing all good
nice
I think clicks getting ready
Watch the boss guys watch the boss
Watching boss
This blend three two one now
And several mini getting ready. Oh nice. We're dead. There's Berlin to
Just happen
Going up yeah, you guys wait on the other side
I'm going in.
I'm going to put it up, then die.
Interesting.
Okay.
Okay.
Jump up.
Okay.
And then she kicked.
I had to gate.
Then enter, how fun.
Oh yeah, enter the gate.
There was five of them.
I can enter twice.
Nice moves.
Oh, I see nice moves.
Oh good.
One of the first robins.
Another one.
Another one.
Yeah, Robin, top two tank in here.
Thank you.
Thank you.
What the fuck?
Alright, I turned to the wrong target.
I thought it would have aggro anyway, but he really blasts, I guess.
You can...
...let them starch the oust.
Yeah, I should have.
No, that's a great call, actually.
They just hit me for 12-0 as well.
Yeah.
Use your external aggro next time, yeah.
You shouldn't bring that back, yeah.
That would be insane.
Then the class would be good.
Damn this thing ever, the dodging boss mechanics would play nice.
Yeah, it was fucking crazy.
It was fun, MPV2.
Why is this class alive?
Look at the damage meter, he's sparring like crazy.
See, you know he sent everything, and when I push that, then Krush really pops off.
What did I do? I just came back.
What?
Yeah, don't worry about it.
You did so much damage, Krush, you're so good.
Yeah, when I just died, you were fucking, you was ramp gonna be there.
It's actually, when we don't have damage on the first platform, I can do a lot more.
Your ascendance is trolling me, so I'm literally AFK in 10 seconds, I'm gonna see this.
oh nice you need to shift this sentence so useless yeah where do you want to
press it on the boss that's right
it's actually so I'm literally every like damage yeah then I want you to
like eat your shit on stream every try one pull if you like damage I'll
hold it now if we ever like that much you can actually each yeah I really
lose a use of you hold it yeah of course the use of course can do more
damage
you will lose a use in last phase
yeah we're losting in my sentence guys
we're not losting in 7 minutes anymore
you're gonna change that last anyway
i can't
if i hold i don't get another use in last phase
did you want to help me
if you guys use hold and only use in last phase
like insta in your land right
only i mean i do it anyways
that's the matter
you hold then
i'm just gonna not use my coolance at all
and not doing that yeah but you're gaming something I would just hold it for
three minutes I hold game nothing nice new good yeah
pulling let's go you're Swedish you're supposed to be smartlex come on I will
yeah I will yeah no I mean he doesn't mean to have to have a right amount
right yeah I will say you're griffing the DPS I don't worry about it I'm
soloing that's nice. Okay sure. Thanks.
We'll link a picture of Skittery Davengers pull.
Yeah, really important damage. Yeah, I usually do a lot of routes to the blades.
Blades coming up. Now I troll because of you.
I'm dodging the bullops. First wave, second wave.
baiting into roots, taking it here into blades coming up soon and blades coming up
again, chase it up again, yes sir, and then we have matrix, watch the
blobs, blobs here into blades, ready for blades, one we can rush, roots,
My getting thing
It's a mention died. Okay, the wing blades coming up
Nothing good it
Good
It's fairly sort roll
So great that it's awesome last place guys. I'm sorry
Yeah, talk some positions make sure to go properly. I try some jogging going on here and we are gonna have a shit day
beautiful
Yes, good baits coming out now.
I love all the...
How much he happened.
I'm dead, of course.
And then with the Ring Globos, very important.
The Ring Globos.
Damage in 3, 2, 1, now.
Check it out, please.
Ready for grip.
Going in 3, 2, 1, now.
And scooching over the pierce pod.
First wave.
Second wave.
Can you set me on next script Robin?
First on this script here.
ITD?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's fine.
We don't need them.
Let's blast.
First wave.
Yeah, sorry.
Hรผller's got clicks.
Oh, I'm holding.
Second wave.
He was crisscrossing.
No, we're fine.
Third wave.
Physical time.
Yeah, let's get it, guys.
Amazing clicks getting ready.
Dodging the blue boss.
Dodging blue boss.
Oh, backup neck.
Oh, back up Nick.
Sorry, yeah, I was trying to get across.
I see.
It was the first platform.
I think so.
I lost a little bit of the left side, guys.
Yeah, that sounds good.
We have a mini going first.
Desperate two, one now.
And reverse and hopper.
Desperate in 2. Woah.
He didn't go for portal.
Lost no one on the portal. Continue.
No need to despair.
Snap.
I sent a stiff there.
I sent a stiff. We lost.
We can cleave both under share health.
That's a crazy snap.
I need to crystal the channel.
I need to crystal the channel.
I need to crystal there right now.
What is crystal?
He died with a phantom.
I went up on Rift level
Rift?
Rift?
Yeah
Let's get it guys
Ready to stack up
Good
Really good
Put in the roots
Into the blades coming up
You go
Yeah, I don't know
How do you get rid of that?
Rest with me
No, it's not good
Now I go fell off
But guys
If we set this
I just run
I don't think I'm doing one thing no I will just stay behind and do my own thing
like I tried to follow here but then I wasn't passing up and then I hesitated
and I died I don't know just follow and go around the boss but don't do your
one thing I'm pretty sure that sounds like a really bad idea I just in
following the the king on the first one is all you just I said it just don't
You just don't dodge the edge
I curved towards the middle so you don't get knocked off
From what do you get knocked off from the trucks?
From the trucks, coming in hot
They're a bit like a schnauzer
I mean he's both dead, I can hibernate for like 4 days
Only for the dogs, I'm waiting for you
You need to lock in for like one more day and then we fucking kill this
One more day?
Guys, just kill this boss and you can all update your mechs
I think we can kill it today.
You always can't.
You say it never happens.
Yeah it is actually a cap.
It's all that we're doing let's boost and it never happens.
That's different.
This is easy to name, Mike said we can kill it today let's get it.
Here's a status streaming with 10k viewers.
Doing some fucking legendary quest instead of boosting.
Well this boss is easy to play, Mike said we can kill today, let's get it
There's a status streaming with 10k viewers
Doing some fucking legendary quest instead of boosting
That was me, that was fun, let's do it
This boss is gonna drop a druid legendary
It's not a duke I'm not
Wallok legendary next
I'm dying one
Well this boss is gonna drop legendary
Let's get to the tower
are you making it? wait for talk there bro
yeah we have three stacks, we have three stacks, we have three blobs, just heal us up
we have three stacks, we will be ready for the raid into the roots
we have a little bit more and then we have the blades coming up
like on a king?
and blades coming up again and matrix coming up here
Matrix here, touch the Blobs, into Blades. Blades getting ready, then we have Pulse, into Roots.
After the Roots we lag it into Blades, lagging it here, Blades coming out, and Talks in positions.
Actually go there if you can get it, that's a jogger from the range, good.
Ready to lag it over, lag it over, lagging it over here, good baits, and then we're doing the Blobs.
Putting blobs here, and blobs, and damage coming in 3, 2, 1, and now, first grip, going in 3, 2, 1, and now, the gas pod travel to the left, first wave, second wave, third wave here, person is coming out, grip,
3, 2, 1, now, cover to the left, first wave, second wave, and third wave, a pump here,
watching blue ops, macing glyphs going through, two ops, 34db in 2, 1, now, blue ops,
I'm hitting him of course
You're holding city's fix, fast
Yeah, but I looked at you in the other
Getting ready, several mini
Dispilling two, one now
And hopeful Revis
Dispilling two, one now
Coming up
He's a fake time as red
He's a real
And Kanax and Akko coming up
Dispilling two, one now
One, resin. Cush nice moves coming up. Maybe someone back up Cush. Someone needs to back up Cush on Meslin. That's all it's doing.
Dispilling two, one, no. Yeah, push before guys.
Quick.
If a person's hearing us, go.
Yeah.
It's me first.
It's Cush.
Yeah, it's me.
It's Cush.
I'm trying to go.
You're going early both.
Nice.
Pulse in two, one, now.
And Gingy will go on this timer.
Watch out for Orbs when you come out.
Pulse in two, one, now.
Oh, it's there, always Orbs when you come out.
Press the turkey.
My range starts standing over there.
Yeah, it's fine, Gingy.
There you go, scurrying.
Okay, range on the red pillar basically,
and tank spawning things on the star pillar.
Remember to curve the boss around
and get to the star pillar
where the boss is on the edge of through.
Put the boss on the edge of the room.
Mhm.
Range almost touching that cross pillar.
Boss will curve around here.
Yes, perfect.
And baiting the pools and running soon.
Running, running, running.
Control the hats good.
And big hats spawning soon.
And we're spreading for the blades a bit.
The blade formation now.
next portals will be on between star and cross and star pillar with blades. Blades coming
to between you go faster, watch the blades though. Good, good, star pillar. Nice. Okay,
handle your ads. Watch the orbs, watch the orbs. Remember your essences. Uh, yep,
good. Portal in one. Take the portal. Okay, blades coming under you soon. Watch
the blades and we're going here range behind you next to the poop and again
the same thing control the ads later under you soon watch it very tight
boom here blades the shackles go to green circle and in between the two green
circle and in between the two okay wash blades soon under you are killing
everything and interrupting blades, blades. Next portal is between circle and green and
green pillar. It means circle and green and green pillar guys. Blades now. We go between
circle and green. Yeah, between circle and green. Okay, it's fine. Just a little bit
of space. Get ready, pick up all your essences. We're taking portal now and shackles going
on blue diamond and in between the two on blue diamond and in between the two
blue underdog sorry I'm trolling it is over here yeah yeah I trolled I trolled
yeah would cleave these down here yeah yeah it's fine you can kill him later
it's okay meet the face of the pools control the ads push the plates under
you now place under you it next one such a kind of on blue diamond in between
two several real and mood rate a bit value and spell delivery on blue diamond
in between the two I don't know who to give external that's fine I just watch
the blades interrupting keep interrupting that to give external but I
didn't get the glow that's why this is porous between blue and diamond and
Diamond pillar. Diamond pillar is Jinji. Diamond pillar right behind you Jinji.
Hot revenge.
Yeah sorry for the bar call guys. I was confused as well.
Last one.
Let's swap the last over to this one. Let's take him on the season now.
Alright. Relax.
Relax? Yeah.
I'm gonna chill out bro.
Yeah, yeah.
One thing I wanted to quickly look at is where the people are dropping off their souls after the second gate.
I think it's not happening.
It's a disaster for me to drop that one off actually. I don't think I want to drop that one.
Not where you want to do that.
Yeah but what is the reason?
You can watch from the problem.
I don't think they are up yet, maybe?
It's just impossible to get there.
I'm using cloak for it currently every time I'm on a plant.
So the plan here is to have the three shackles on the left right,
but one was to leave them with the adds, correct?
I think they will die before the adds.
They set the suction really strong when the adds are spawned.
On that 8 minute wave I get like some externals or something because I want to stand in the middle and start blasting and stuff
I need to dot everything
dying otherwise I think
We don't really have externals for you right now
Thank you for your poor roadshare
That will help
I'll give you a tag if that's your one
Just press the macro and believe you have an external
Fuck and send it bro
I mean, actions are your point
If you press the macro, the fuck's the plan of it actually
That's whatever I guess. People just live somewhere.
I mean I can bear from this world condemnation maybe too, but it's just in my cool
and it's like as I'm setting up all my blasts, I would solo this fucking wave.
Nice memes.
Yes.
Did you have the shackles in the end there on blue planks?
Yeah, on purple.
Okay, so the assignment is when we have double purple there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The assignment is wrong, it's getting fixed.
Oh, okay.
That's normal already.
Okay.
second wave of the gods yeah I'll see if we can maybe do something in the first
one wrong as well right here we can't kind of show you yeah I told me the one
balloon I will just go back home check all check your assignments are fine
you already reloaded forget about it it's all good I just forgot about who is
where is where did you drop your soul oh you just took it late I took it late
yes there's a lot of other things going on so I dropped it late as you can see
yeah there it is I was actually shocked you made I don't know how you made it
through a portal or you see transcendence or something no I don't
I don't take it.
Ah, that's why, okay, okay.
I don't know, like, yeah.
Yeah, Bush could take this one super late as well if he's going to win.
Yeah, I may play for 10 seconds in a row.
Yeah, I don't know.
You would just hit the boss.
You wouldn't go there.
Yeah, you take, I'm taking mine during the ring when the boss is in the middle.
Exactly.
When the boss ports to the middle, you guys can melee this, right?
Yeah, I'll go.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, when the boss is in the middle, you just leg it to the side,
Now I can pick it up.
Actually, yeah.
Look, are you seeing my screen strength, Ruklek?
I have the exact timing.
Yeah, I was busy.
Oh, okay.
So here, Kuz, you'll just follow the boss.
Follow, follow, follow.
You're still hitting here, Gadd.
This portal is supposed to be here, by the way.
It was wrong.
So you'll be safe here.
You hit the boss, hit the boss, hit the boss.
And then supports to the middle now.
And now you start strafing.
hitting here pick up your soul so to step out and then all of the shit will be done
Yeah
You took it now like 15 second time or no. Yeah, you can still tell me what happened done. Actually. Yeah
You'll still you can stay here keep hitting here while all of these explodes
the
Yeah, the cycles are going there
and then you go and drop it off here now and then you get dragged
well the only issues here if you can see go back
wait who the fuck am I watching man at this point
it's me watching Roger yes yeah okay so if you go back you see my soul one yeah
that I just dropped if he can get condemnant while he has the soul there
will be shambles yeah but I don't know if that's possible what the shackles
you mean yeah no no no you can't I've never seen this happen okay then it's fine
yeah because you see how late I dropped my soul and that is exactly what you said
but is it bad that you drop it at this late most because we kind of want to move
yes I would take it a little bit earlier but yeah I didn't have roll charges
but I swear I need like five rolls this one wait you want to drop them in
the front here and in the back right here yeah yeah yeah but but hold on I
I do want to say one thing
Here, I see three souls
Where's the fourth ray?
Where's the fourth evoker one?
I don't think we can top
I mean the stream melee, I guess also the mean melee
I mean the stream melee and spawn range
Well, but where's the last one?
I mean, mostly it's death, so that might have something to do with
No, look at, he's laying on us as a corpse
You can see it in the middle of the map
Yeah?
Where the fuck is the last one?
You can see my corpse
Let's go back, if we all pick up the souls
I mean, otherwise we would have wiped
one yeah it's so live what I think this is after for those oh maybe two are
stacked this is me see I can just separate it's fine that's just okay yeah
okay what I wanted to say though if you look at my screen real quick yeah the
idea is that these should be more to the right yeah like ideas we have four
We're all on the wrong spot.
We need Feast.
We need Feast.
We only have a few.
Yeah, we get it.
You're hungry.
Yes, yes.
And oil you need against.
Then I need to fucking repair myself.
It was the pull-time for the Feast.
I just died to the Roykman donations, moved from Wall and Darkpact.
I was 50% off.
And they...
Like this, we...
I think there's not much to heal when we pick up the souls anymore.
And the healer rockers always pick up, like, the further ones.
Because we don't...
I'm not really in boss strength all the way.
I mean for now it doesn't matter
There's nothing we heal I think there
Did you die?
It's a second death
Yeah it was a second death
I was low I guess
Was this the second way chains?
Where you run to the wall?
The blue purple middle one
The third
The third?
Yeah
Are we not gonna eat anything actually?
Yeah breakfast
don't say I'm gonna say I'm actually I mean we had a hit at that for like 30
seconds oh okay that's true
Yeah, okay. Yeah, I'm supposed to be yeah, yeah
What no, this is the third wave, right?
I went to blue. Yeah. Yeah.
That is not the middle. Is it?
I'm not looking at the picture. The middle
Which which way to change this the third way third okay, and you are one of the side ones. Yeah
You want to
Then he shouldn't get
Also the Darkpike as late as possible, yeah.
Yeah, I mean.
It's got sucked up and the shit, but I mean, you never got popped anyways, just...
Yeah, Darkpike is like 500k or so.
But when we go for the kill, we can't duck like Dan will here, anyway, right?
You need to save something for the essence.
That's the healthstone angle.
Yeah.
That's healthstone in the health spot, in the chowding up the S.
Yeah, I'm so excited when we got lost 4.
I don't think the essence does that much damage, bro.
I picked one up earlier and I was hot-shilling
Yeah, I'm probably mysterious all the ads casting as well. Yeah, of course
You should really do the second day of work. Just pop some rescues or something will happen
Are they externals right now working because I'd see a bit to these are what I think right
I stacked someone as well. I think I
I mean I got the GS the second time
I also got the first portals
On the first portals, that's it, do you have a team?
Please only respond to what I say one by one
I did not know
Okay, on the second portal assignments
Is that when you pop your externals, Robin and stuff?
I don't know, I'm gonna double check
But I did suck Flix, I think it just glowed on the radar
I don't recall Externals or anything else
I got the second one
Yeah, okay, second one
Yeah, second shot, I got the second one
Yeah
Yeah, okay, so the second one was work
The first ones don't work yet
And we can do
something later on maybe for the third ones
Pop the rescues or something and we'll see
Inside, let's go
Did you die exactly?
No, I died on the first ones
Because I get a bit too close to them
I was just hitting close to them
signal okay yeah it's the it's the third shackles that's between blue and purple right
I guess yes yes yeah I'm gonna hurt your call but I was like maybe should just be gone with it
on that point I turn brain off I just see how to go to say that's what I mean I just went over the
the image was
and the runes
you have a reminder on your screen as well
legging it to bloodess
from the dodge inside me
this
i got low
we don't get maged
who made this guys
i would have been off
i don't know i think i just
stood still
here you only blinked and said
that wasn't me
Wait a second.
And then we're baiting.
Into a root.
I think it's a 2.
And then we're lagging it into blades.
And then we have blades coming up again with toxins after.
Oh, keep the stack.
Nice.
Nice.
Oh.
Hello.
Hello.
We just need some work, I guess, yeah?
And then we have the matrix.
Watching for blades.
Blades coming up here.
And the lagging head.
Blades coming here.
In the toxin positions.
Can someone else trigger properly?
My weaker stopped working.
I shall do it.
Yeah.
Get to your positions.
Ready to lag it over.
Legging it over guys
Good blade fades
Too much damage is reached at the same time
I say it's
Every time we have the
Lobdodges
Okay me
Damage in 2
1
Now
Ready for first group
First group in 3
2
1
Now
Put your lefty, first wave, second wave, and third wave, ready for personas, group coming up
Group going in, 3, 2, 1, now, and dodging waves, first one, second one, third one, dodging the third one, dodging, dodging, watch out, watch out
Nice, nice thing clicks getting ready, dodging blue balls, yes
A little bit weaker here, that's it.
Holding your balls, this way in, two, one, now.
Very nice.
Perfect.
And then there's Sevmini coming up.
Yes.
And this way in, two, one, now.
Right.
And hopeful and nervous.
Moving two, one, now.
Pushing here.
Up, up, up.
Yeah
Connix Connix now core in seven six five four three two one
Dispel in two one now yours
And nice things push ready
To push here or maybe not solid fuck we're getting ready
Oh, we're good.
It's good, it's good.
And by later on.
Yeah.
Instead of Fraggo, someone else will go.
Quote run quick.
Gole and Wolf.
Dave, you can't make it, Wolf.
I got it.
I might die then.
All right, you get it.
Yeah, you got it.
You got it?
Yeah.
And the spells in two.
One, the spells.
Watch the orbs.
And Jinji and Ryzen need to swap.
Really weird.
Yeah, that's fine.
Be cross.
Yeah.
Yeah, Jinji and Ryzen going in.
And the spells in two.
One, now.
After the spell, what are we doing?
I'll watch the knock now.
All good.
Okay, okay.
One thing we try out is,
you can cap your essence when the timer tells you to, okay?
Not earlier, don't pick it up at like three seconds.
One of us at the one.
Yeah, we don't have us at all.
This is not for the tanks, by the way, or course.
Okay.
Can I get top to you?
Yes.
We're just walking.
Remember to try to bust to the edge first and then...
Mm-hmm.
okay aiding and moving control the ads i need to turn back Robin yeah i know i'm gonna
pull the ads plus um
the ads spawning soon and blades under use soon blades blades and portals is between star and
cross and star pillar and watch the blades during it watch the blades and star and cross and star
pillar. If you need to go start pillar. A little bit too much clockwise, watch the orbs. Remember
your essences. Taking portal soon. Two, one, pretty good and I'm watching the blades after.
Spreading first and blades under you now. Okay, lining up on the wall range. It's fine.
You can pop the small that's a bit further. Okay, fading first. Starting towards the
inner side ranged a bit. Okay.
Lights coming soon, watch your feet and the shackles will be on circle, green and
between the two. Circle, green and between the two. Both is between circle and green.
Maybe adjust. Lights under you in two seconds, watch it now. Next portals will
be between circle and green and green pillar
I'm watching green and circle and green pillar
that was green pillar
you need to pick up an old one
come on
pick up the essences now
and taking portal in two one
And next shackles is blue pillar blue pillar all of you
Blue pillar
Yeah, they all went to blue
Another pillar guys
Fine, that's fine controlling the ads
Let's look at it quick, was it a misunderstanding or was it too far to reach, I'm not sure.
I'm OK Mage and I'm joined by the wonderful Jesse.
Gee, hello, hello.
Thank you, thank you.
Although I've been thinking about renaming.
Ah, to Jenny from the block.
Yes, actually to OK Jenny.
The OK is Jenny on the block.
We did get a new best while we were on our little break.
We listened to comms for quite a little while there,
which was really, really nice.
We got to hear their strategizing and planning
and the good spirits that they're in right now,
because today's a new leaf after yesterday
where they did struggle for a lot of the day.
But today they're just really consistent getting
that phase. A new best of 27.3% down 10 or I'm sorry 6 inch percent from the 33 from last night.
Oh my god I didn't even see that good spot. We have had our new best pull that is excellent to see
as we have only just started our day here in Cologne so it's fantastic to get some of their
best pulls in this early on. Yeah a little bit of a little bit of a regression yesterday but
that's fine that was yesterday's problem today we're on a we're on pace. No we're on pinks
We're doing well. We're getting into phase three almost every single pull, which is exactly the practice and consistency they need
Because it's so difficult. It's an incredibly chaotic fight
We're often painting these broad outlines of okay
So now we have to kill spiders and now we have to kill acolytes
But all the time there's all this other stuff happening under the hood with webs constantly splashing round making it much more difficult to
Position for those things and of course baiting the puddles in the right spot
So you don't get overwhelmed later without space
So they're refining all of those strategies and it's really really good to see actually while we were on our break
I went down and talked to Julia for a little bit. Oh, did you?
Our lovely personal chef here at the SK Magenta facility venue. Indeed all players in love with her. She says that it's always
Easy for her to be the most liked person in the building because she's the one feeding them
She's done a really great job. She's been working
Three weeks straight ever since the first, you know, production started showing up here to set up the facility
coming in every single day to make all of those meals and I was talking to her
about like some of the logistics behind it ensuring they have all the supplies
they need the ingredients of course all the cleaning plates and silverware on
top of actually preparing enough food for everyone all day every day and there's
some big guys here that need a lot of feeding up so it was a big job I did I
raised the proposition to her if she wanted to potentially come on the
show and say hi to our audience because I know how much you guys would
enjoy chatting with Julia. She, she said maybe she said she's a little bit worried about her
confidence. Oh, behind the scenes girl. But I think everyone would love talking to her. So
everyone some hearts and chat for Julia, if we can get enough hearts and chat for Julia,
I can show her how appreciated and loving our community would be. I can't actually do it.
Am I like a total millennial? Like that? This is just lungs. Okay, how to okay. Oh,
Oh, they're not going into a pool yet, guys. Don't worry.
Those are binoculars. I'm making a hard look at the screen.
How's that? That looks fantastic.
This is the first ever heart I've made. I think the cool kids...
How do you do it? No, that's...
This is the goggle thing, right? You do the hand on the head.
So welcome to Boomerower. With Juna and Jesse.
boomerower I'm like I think more than half a decade older than you no yes I always forget how do you
21 me too there you go
but we are raising money for games for love a wonderful charity providing help for children
in hospitals, providing distraction therapy and also having some amazing scholarship and
internship programs for them later on in life as well. You know they could spend their crucial
educational years in hospitals dealing with something terrible so not only can they get
through that tragic time extremely comfortably but also providing the means to get them kind
of rehabilitated back into the everyday world as well after that. The great thing about that
that charity is how they've kind of grown and developed
in response to the need that they've seen, right?
Nathan, we talked to Nathan on stream a couple of days ago
and you guys got to meet him, which was fantastic.
And he talked about how he developed the charity
because his own son was going through a lot of hospitalization
with a genetic disorder.
And as they've continually said, okay,
we're just gonna adapt to what everyone needs.
They go to a hospital and they say, what do you need?
You need video games, we'll get them,
consoles, we'll get them,
you need to learn how to operate them,
we'll train you, you need to have repair,
we'll provide it.
And then as those kids start aging
and beat their condition, perhaps, they've missed school,
they've started providing those scholarships
and science, technology, engineering, mathematics,
internships, training, connecting those kids
with those resources in a really phenomenal way.
I did wanna tell, we said this last evening
what I wanna say it again, because some people saw
the broadcast for Nathan said that his own son
had been suffering, and that's why he started a charity.
He forgot to say, and I think it's important
to let everyone know, his son made a full recovery.
currently like a state Taekwondo champion. His son has been up all of us, right? So full
recovery, giga-child boy. It's such a great story. Yeah. And so they're constantly growing
that charity and you guys have raised so much money already for it.
$31,700 so far. Thank you so much for all of your generosity. $1 in Rich's One Child's
life. You are absolutely fantastic. We had a $1 donation an hour ago from World's Caster.
Oh, I think there are several casters at Castling of Legends. None of them particularly notable.
Could be anyone really. I've heard of.
Hey chat, let's get an early morning pee-pee poo-poo train going. Now we know that can
can only be one person.
Yep. Wait who? Mike?
Yes. Yeah.
It was labelling things around here.
Like a big fan of pee-pee-poop-poop.
Notoriously. A big fan.
Yep. Things you know about Mike.
Hates cats.
Hates everything cute.
Hates cute stuff. Hates a son.
No taste.
Yeah, no taste. Likes, you know, British food over
world cuisine. Doesn't like Italian food.
doesn't that man hate? It seems like it's an exhaustive list.
The engraving. Yeah, meet engraving. I can't actually
get my back up here. Anytime I try to do a British accent, I
just sound pretentious.
Do you? Yeah. What's your British accent?
Give me give me a subject. Give me an entry. Be British.
fancy a cuppa. Do you want a cup of tea?
Oh, I would really enjoy a cup of tea.
Could you pull up for me?
Oh, that's pretty good!
The only accent I can do is the first one.
Pull it for me?
Indeed.
You know what, Jesse, indeed I will.
It does indeed rain again. We have no sun here.
I love it!
That's so good!
Thank you!
Sometimes when American students use the accent, I often hear Australian.
And I can understand why, because sometimes I'll hear an Australian accent.
Because it's a better version of English accents.
No!
What you were saying you were saying you hear in Australian accent. Yeah, cuz I think they can be a little bit similar sometimes
There have been occasions where someone has an Australian accent and for a second. I think they're British even you yeah, even me
So I can understand, you know
My big problem is you know
Playing games as we do right we're getting exposed to so many different people in so many different places all with their own unique
accent. And I've heard people speak English with accents ranging from, you know, Mediterranean,
South African, Australian, Asian, Eastern European, Northern European, Scottish, and Irish. And
by far the most difficult to understand English on the planet is Scott's English.
Yeah.
Someone who's been speaking English from for the past two years from Bulgaria is
significantly easier to understand than a Scott.
Yeah, I feel like there are so many accents and yeah, a lot of them are quite difficult
Sometimes I struggle even with Irish accents. It's a very thick Irish accent. I do that thing where there's just like
No thoughts just just smiling
The fourth time I've said what did you say and I still didn't catch it and I'm going
Yeah, I was talking to someone from Scotland at one of the racist worlds first and I
Like a week before I had hurt my foot. Okay
And so that was in the background, right?
I hadn't thought about it for a few days.
I was sitting down with him and he said, how's the food?
And I was like, food is fine.
You know, I had the pasta, it was pretty good.
He's like, but how's your food?
Bro, I don't know what you mean!
Your food!
You're fine!
Look at his foot.
What are you talking about?
Can't understand what you're saying.
Yeah, and now I know, food is food in Scotland.
I don't know why, but apparently it is.
What I will say, you know,
The British have more accents per square kilometer than any country that small has any right to have.
You have more regional variation from village to village than we have in our entire continent-sized country.
Why? Why? You have to do it on purpose.
We just, you know, every village needs its own unique identity.
because of course you want to be able to know if the person in town is a
fern or exactly valley over yeah especially if they're from the north
south
yeah we do have so many accents especially a new castle accent or live a
puddley an accent if you're from Liverpool say that i get liver
puddley in yeah how does it look like we'll turn the puddle
i don't know that's just one of those things that evaporates a pool could
become a puddle if there wasn't enough rain and all the water evaporated.
Liver puddle-ian?
I don't know why I hate that.
Here's the other issue I have with England.
One of those things I've always said that I've never thought about.
Much like all of your other words.
Yeah.
Why do you spell a word with 14 syllables and 30 letters and then only pronounce a quarter
of them?
Warchester sure.
We drink our teas.
We don't pronounce them.
It's not just the teas.
Oh, did I tell you that story about the lady who lost her teas and her lunch?
No.
When we were going to Manchester for the race to the world first in Final Fantasy 14, I
had to ride a very long train because the main train that went downtown was gone.
Everyone was packed into this like city metro and it was very tight quarters so I understand
what this poor lady was going through.
A woman threw up all over my feet.
So she did lose her lunch.
But then because she was British, she also lost all of her teeth.
She looked at me and she says, I'm so sorry.
He got better of me. I'm like lady. Are you tease all over my feet right now? Where did they go?
That was a good British accent
My introduction to Manchester and by all accounts that was accurate
Yeah, that was the first time in your UK into the UK as well. So your entry was being puked on. Yeah public transport
Yeah, it's a very regular occurrence, so I'm glad you're getting the traditional welcome
But we have had some donations we had a $100 donation last night from Jack Gallio, which is an incredible
amount of money. Thank you so much
This is my favorite time of the race when both guilds are neck and neck. These moments right here are why I love the race to world first.
What a great coin.
I completely agree.
Let's see, how often has this happened? So there was a midger sill where both guilds could have killed the boss at any juncture.
That was such a tension time.
Holding side by side was amazing.
Then you also had Castle Nathria where Liquid was so clearly going through that kill so I could cut short their splits to dive in there and go for the helm there and try to do it again.
again and they were pulling side by side in the last phase as well. Those moments are so exciting.
Last night it happened again with both guilds getting a personal best. I go getting to 33,
Liquid getting to 30 or so at the same time on the screen. It's phenomenal. I love it. And that's
going to happen again later today, right? I don't think I was killing the boss before the
end of the day if then. So if they play well and consistently getting to phase three,
when Liquid gets up in several hours, they're going to both be blasting, trying to find that
that last 15, 27% to Slay the Boss,
it's gonna be the best timeline for race World First fans.
Yeah, absolutely.
I love the race as a whole.
It is my favorite event.
Liquid have been playing out of their minds,
been doing a wonderful job this year.
As always, you know, they are such a heavy competitor
as our Echo, and both skills kind of push each other
to be better.
If you have, you know, one clear winner every time,
one side could maybe get a little bit confident,
So it's nice that they have each other to kind of push to the limits of what is what everybody's capable of achieving in this game and even method method are hot on their tails as well.
They are violating this tier. Yeah, staying up till I think four a.m. Before the race there getting silicon caught down, which again was another one of those moments the race that was just a spectacle.
spectacles. Are they going to get it? It was cool, Stenemar. It's been so exciting.
Incredible to see that perseverance, that diligence, you know, the grit to get it down.
We actually have four guilds all working simultaneously on Queen Nance, right here in the second reset.
Three of them in Phase 3, the Asian Guild as well in Phase 2. Hot Pot Heroes doing
phenomenally well, then having the item level advantage over the other guilds as
well. So an incredibly competitive, incredibly hot race. Just the best timeline for race
world first fans you know who just enjoy that close competition and the uncertainty the wild
you know speculation about what's going to happen who's going to win what's going to go down
it's so much fun absolutely and even if you have a team that you're rooting for i i kind of just
enjoy the race again as an event i i can't believe that this is a total community-based event
that's put on raising so much money for charity and also getting to see the best players in the
world be pushed to their absolute limits. It is indeed so wonderful to watch and see them
get to the very very end. I very much enjoy it. Yeah me as well. Do we have some more donations?
We do. Would you like to read some? Sure. I'm hugging the iPad very much. Oh not at all.
She reads them so beautifully. Everyone prefers them in an English accent. Oh should I read them
in an English accent? I'm going to assume that if it's not markers read it is unread. I don't
I don't know if some of those were.
So I've decided to choose chaos,
where sometimes the donation will come in at the top,
makes me laugh, so I read that one.
So I tick it, and then there's all the ones underneath.
Can I turn it this way?
You know, some people go in order, right?
Some people will look at the donations
from bottom up and tick.
I just pick and choose.
Yeah, so some of these are from a while ago,
they may have been read again,
but if they're funny, I'm gonna read them again.
I don't mind.
Yeah, some of them were from last night,
and we didn't get the chance
read them on our shift last night. And if a caster mistakenly failed to market as red,
I'm just going to read it again. You get the double value from your donation. And you know,
we appreciate the money. So either way, Rat Jam 777, $10 with a little bit of pun, and
I'll try to do it justice. But it's an Irish pun and Irish accents are impossible. Why
are there only 239 beans in Irish stew? Why? Because one more and it'd be too far to
Oh, that's so good!
I love that.
Anonymous with $10.
If we all donate $1, there's a chance we get to see Preach get a spider tramp stamp,
and we also get to help kids.
I don't think Preach is getting a tattoo.
At $40k donated to the cause, Nagura, Medic, and I have all committed to getting one of
Sam's tattoos placed on our body, the Team Spider or Team Crab.
team crab I don't know that preach is a committed to and I really doubt the man
who is married with two sons will be getting a tram stamp although that would
be fun that would be wonderful I did I was teasing Chad about the possibility
that I would I will get a tattoo that would be fun for about an hour and then
it would be regret for the remainder of my life you know if we if we do a if we
do a tattoo I think shoulder is the best place right because then you've got
the sleeve you can cover it with it's easy to like you know look at my tattoo you
know you can show it off while also keeping it covered without having to be
like look at the small of my back you know
pulling that out on stream yeah just bend over in front of stream I don't
think that's the play oh no keep going through a few of these while we're in
phase one every little while we'll go through and explain exactly what's
happening phase one but anyone who's been a fan of the race has probably
watch 240 times thus far let's let them get through chorizo which is great food
I love to it so yeah sent in $10 saying a request for Roger oh the code name can
use treat so so I can help the players from my sofa keeping it food theme excellent
idea yeah we could suggest that uses fruit yeah so he regularly will name you
know a mechanic or if they have to pay attention to something he'll give it a
a fruit name? Is that the lore behind that Jesse? Yeah, there is some lore behind it. I remember
it was the dragon boss in Nile Lothar, I think it was Vali-yona or Vex-yona or some, I don't know,
one of those names, big dragon, would fly beams down that you had to dodge and only one lane
would be safe. There was lane by the door, there was middle lane, and there was lane
on the opposite side of the boss from the door. And it's easy to say door side and it's
easy to say middle, but we didn't know what to say for the other side opposite of the door.
Roger said, well, I'm going to stop saying that. Now on. That's pineapple. Pineapple means
the opposite side of the boss from the door. That's the shorthand. And ever since then,
Roger's code naming everything. We've had the banana strat on the Nexus Princess
boss as well.
Yeah. The, uh, that was, so I thought he named the strat banana, but I think
was it that banana was the code to press the macro?
Yeah, but not banana. I just said banana
The banana strategy was to indicate that it was time to press your macro
Because on Nexus Princess Kiversa you had a private aura the weak or couldn't detect you had that debuff in order to signal to the weak or you had the debuff
You had to push the macro yourself banana was keyword for everybody push your macro
Yeah, you know
It's one of those things that kind of makes sense right because I feel like macro in the moment in a raid fight is not
going to stand out as much as someone randomly yelling banana.
Banana. Yeah. And then you definitely know, oh, that's a
bit jolting, like, woke itch. I know what that means. Yeah, I
mean, it was fun for chat too. It is funny because we had we
had an abundance of bananas in the facility there for a while.
Fresh fruit. We had such a huge bag of bananas. I remember
running around as if it was my picnic with this massive bag
of bananas. Yeah, Mike on stream was like, Mike, do
you want to go on a picnic? He was like, sure. I said,
okay, I packed chat a nice packed lunch and just put
all of these bunches of bananas on his desk and just left him with it and he was like wait,
wait, hold, Jordan! And I ran away. I was being a little bit mischievous as sometimes I am and
once when the girl was really focused on reading something on screen I pulled out a banana, I
snuck in and just ate in front of her, waiting for her to notice. That was fun and then I left
the banana on the couch for someone next to find. That was also funny when they found that.
Oh no. A little bit of sneaking with the bananas. Banana in the couch. There are plenty.
We do the head joists to have an intermission wipe there so we can continue going through
all of the amazing donations. Keep sending them in, puns, jokes, stories, your favorite
boss, your favorite moments, your favorite casters, whatever it may be.
I wonder, does anybody have a noob story? I feel like this is something, yeah, I feel
like this is, oh I'd love to delve into your brain, but I actually brought my biggest
noob story a couple of times around this race and I'm wondering if anybody else has
new story to make me feel better. I'm kidding.
Surely no one has ever been as much of a noob as you.
Yeah, just yeah, I can't be the only one.
Okay, so Katrina recently started playing well.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, and I have some noob stories from her that will
raise the hairs on the back of your neck.
She, okay, I'm going to tell one, I'm going to tell one.
Katrina being my wife, lives in Denmark, played Final Fantasy 14 for a long time, has never played well before.
She wanted to know what was an easy class to play and everyone knows the correct answer to what's the easiest class to play is...
Hunter. Correct. So I told her to play Hunter. Everyone knows BM Hunters have no buttons and that's very very easy.
She messaged me and she said, you said this was easy but I keep dying and I'm like okay so what pet do you have?
She sends back. Huh? Pet?
Oh! Oh no! She was playing BM Hunter with no pet!
Oh that may be a small explanation. It's a little bit of a problem.
Yeah! So you know the BM Hunters pet dealing most of their damage.
It highlights how much we take for granted in the knowledge base that someone new just
doesn't know.
Yeah, because you wouldn't know that.
You don't know that all your damage is coming from your pet and that it's really important.
I think as a new player you may think, oh you know, hunters get a pet.
It's like an aesthetic thing.
You can go around and you can capture pets.
You can collect all these different ones and put them in your stable.
You can kind of feel like it's a feature.
You can get the battle pets that kind of confuse you a little bit.
Yeah, I can totally see how that can happen.
And then also she thought that anytime she picked a talent it would automatically go
on her bars.
And these bars have tons and tons of buttons during the tutorial, right?
You fight that first target dummy and then it puts a new button on your bar and says
use this button three times and she's like, oh, they're just going to always give me
my buttons.
So she was spec'd into things like, oh, you know, kill command, but didn't have enough
bars.
Oh, which is one of the biggest executes, right?
Like it's like a rotational button for them, right?
I think just every few seconds you're pushing kill command.
So the struggles of a new player.
Now she's completed her very first ever mythic plus two key yesterday.
Was that the key that we did?
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
You had a key with her.
That was her first key.
Oh, that was a really fun key as well.
It was fun.
It's been really cute, actually.
Yeah, all of us kind of in the castor room playing together,
even Medic before he left, because he had to leave
because he is casting for Worlds kind of a big deal.
We miss him very much already.
But he said, you know, can we still do mythic plus?
Because that was something that we would all do.
We'd hang out and do some mythic plus a lot when chilling in the castor room.
Yeah.
Losing Fraggo in the intermission.
No res available.
Keep an eye on that.
Chimmy sent in $10 a little while ago with a pun for you.
Oh, where do poor Italians live?
Where? In the Spaghetti.
Not sure that one deserves the giggle.
See, I always feel like the more absurd the better.
Yeah.
I enjoyed it.
Yeah.
Do you know my favorite?
What?
My favorite is the dad joke.
Oh?
Yeah.
I've told it a couple times.
Have I told you?
I don't think so.
I don't know why I like this one so much.
It resonates with me.
Why didn't the farmer like his step ladder?
Why?
Because it wasn't his real one.
he was his step ladder
oh
thank you for that
making me feel better
no i just like had a total blank moment of like
wait
i get it now
yeah thank you
the charity laugh
i appreciate it
it's not as i'm sure it's a joke
i was too dumb to get it the first time
no not at all
not at all
i have a pretty upset jet joke
i've told this one before
i want to hear it
What do you call an elephant in the North Pole?
I don't know.
Lost.
True, fair enough.
What do you call an elephant standing encustered?
What?
Invisible.
Think about it.
Have you ever seen an elephant encustered?
No!
They're all invisible!
Oh my goodness.
Wait, we're learning new things every day!
We had a $25 donation from Anonymous.
No comment, no name.
25 children help Mike drop giga Chad. Thank you very much so much. $25 donation
from Anonymous saying love the race world first great job as always every
cast or player production team and most important the chef who makes the food
Julia downstairs working so hard more hearts for Julia you want to get her on
the chat I think that'd be so fun to talk to her. Yeah I've taken so many
pictures and little videos of her food she is amazing and it's very
exciting coming into the venue every day. We've had wonderful breakfast you know with some
fruit overnight oats. Some wonderful little bowls that she's been making us. I love the overnight oats
they're so good. They're so delicious. Yeah. And we've like little chai seeds and we had some
scrambled egg this morning. She has been doing a wonderful job and she bakes fresh cakes every day.
Yeah. We had some beautiful banana bread the other day. Yesterday she made chocolate brownies
from the wow cookbook. Yeah, they've been using the well cookbook for a lot of the meals,
which is so sweet and really sweet because none of them are wow players. So they, you
know, when they heard there was going to be a wow event, they went and purchased this
wow cookbook and it made us little snacks and cakes from the wow cookbook, which I
thought was very cute. It's so cute and it really shows their passion for, you
know, feeding gamers here at the SK Gaming Magenta facility as they've been doing
for a while and now have this influx of world of Warcraft players. She told
me that you know she's really having a great time enjoying all the conversations
enjoying meeting everyone but wouldn't mind if we you know fucked off and gave
her a break. Yeah this is nice at all but I want a day off so can you leave please?
Can you kill the bar? She's Australian so no holds barred when it comes to...
Yeah though you are very correct. It's funny because I had a little bit of a conversation
sadly this is going to lead to a wipe. We keep an RI on the pause so you're
missing too much you want to be getting back into phase three so we're keeping an
arm screen as we fill your ears with lots of nonsense in the meantime that's
what I'm well I'm full of nonsense I have to spew it out constantly or pop me too
yeah I've seen it yeah I kind of like the few times when we have to sit on the
couch and be silent silent challenge is apparently impossible yeah well I mean
you had the nonsense overflow yesterday into this beautiful art look at how
These emotes are so glorious. Hold on. We need to have nothing to do.
Okay, we still blalatat thing. Yeah, we need to put up hold because we've had a couple of phase one whites for a little bit.
We had another donation from
Metal MMO. Question to Jeth, as the next world-first healer, general, heal a Fixionado.
Why bring the pallet in here? Because of Chiyah's healing or another freedom?
Wouldn't it be something like, please don't have a third evoker because of Rewind and
Zephyr? So you're absolutely right that a third evoker would do significantly more
HPS. Zephyr is really, really good. It's a phenomenal piece of utility, and
evokers have phenomenal utility in general. They are doing a lot of things under the hood to
keep people alive, including some more of that Twin Guardians tech that we saw come in so clutched
on the Princess Kaveza, right? The evokers grab each other or some other vulnerable person right
before big hits like the four stack of the frothy poison going into the emission or the rest
of the emission giving a big shield to both the evoker and the other player. That stuff has
huge value. Zephyr does as well, great cooldown. But you are absolutely right. You can't just
heal this raid with four evokers, even though the evokers are doing 20% more HPS than any of
of those other healing specs because evokers have right up there with
disciplined priests arguably the worst spot healing in the game the least
consistent ability to say these four people are in danger of dying and they
need healing evoker can blast everyone with a huge engulf or two huge engulfs
or even four if they use stasis and do phenomenal hps but they can't say
these five people over the next 15 seconds each require an enormous amount
of single target healing to stay alive a paladin can
So you need people to bring that that triage healing. That's why this healing set up is so common right now.
Two evokers, a holy priest and a holy paladin. The evokers doing the bulk of the raid healing,
the holy paladin and the holy priest doing the bulk of the spot healing, that triage healing that's
so important because as we've seen going into that last phase, we have seven people carrying
around that acolyte soul. They all need attention or they're going to die. Yes, they'll need the
spot healing, especially as well as the coordinated kind of unavoidable damage that's going out
that point as well with the ads. Having a little bit of a shield can't be interrupted
until that shield is broken. So you will have some of those cast going on for the very start.
So yeah, you kind of need a mixture of both, right? But yeah, the freedom being such a key
thing here, the silk and tombs that go out in phase one, as you'll be seeing that they are
kind of mitigating every single set by breaking out with escape artists from the gnome racial
freedom from the Paladin, Tiger's Lust from the Monk, there are various ways that they can free themselves as they don't really want to allocate the damage into those silk and tombs and trying to get as much uptime on the boss as possible.
Any resources taken off of the boss can be very detrimental later on.
Yep, so you see here.
Yeah, there you go.
Go ahead.
Yeah, there it is.
There it is, right? Every single raider is popping freedom, escape artist, dream breath,
you know, something from the evokers, whatever you need to shape shifting is canyx to get
out of those roots without ever allocating a single point of damage to them, which is
such a good point, as Jordan said, because all of that damage can go to the boss instead.
Also that becomes necessary, they might have done that for damage optimization anyway,
but it becomes necessary because of the overlaps.
Yeah, because you'll get these roots into Venom bombs, which is this exact overlap
right here. So every single time they have to make sure they're breaking out so quickly.
Imagine if they were killing roots while also trying to bait the blades, evade the blades
and get in the boss. Yeah, it's just too much to expect, right?
Yeah. You'd have to allocate so many cooldowns to breaking out every single set of silk and
tubes. Again, that's damage then and resources taken off of the boss, the boss HP being
such a key factor in this fight. We've seen to the end liquid playing out of their
mind seeing to the very, very end of the fight and still having 15% health left on the boss,
which is not normal, you know, you want to go through the fight, you want to be learning it,
finding your feet, coming up with the straps, cooking it up, what's where they're going with every
single step. Yeah, absolutely. And then finding the damage after. So that is quite normal, but
still, there's a damage you can't really take off with the boss, but on every single
still contain when we can kind of mitigate it, but the various things we have our disposal.
Absolutely. We see so much utility, a lot of individual player utility being shown during this phase, this intermission doing so much damage.
It unfortunately looks like we may be getting the third rest. Oh, they did beat it.
So we're going into phase two. But you see, for example, Narco is popping a bubble and then placing sacrifice on Rycen so that Rycen can live through that grab.
They are also using the blessing of sacrifice. So the Paladin is providing huge utility with very high survivability themselves and then able to place a buff on someone else so that they can live.
you see that that second rest that second pull in everyone needs something you
can't live through it with with just healing so everyone's either popping a
personal or getting a benefit from the paladins with blessing and sacrifice or
an evoker with that time dilation which is such an extraordinarily powerful
cool down we do have for the first time in a little while a phase two pull
canyx is going to be on the floor for the next 30 seconds until we get the
next combat race we also lose zero woes so a little bit faltering here
as we try to get through this first platform and get to platform 2, which is probably the
hardest part of the fight until the last phase.
Yeah, because they'll have so much damage going out, as well as very particular positioning,
they're getting dragged in by the webs, they're having to dodge the orbs, they're having
to dodge the beams that are going across. As well as on the second platform, the
healers having a lot of gloom dispels going out across the raid, dealing raid damage
every time they're dispelled, dropping a pool on the floor when they're dispelled.
Every time a player goes through this portal, also getting an additional gloom debuff, so
it is very, very challenging.
Yes, absolutely.
Try not to get yanked off of the edge as well, ideally.
Correct.
And that happens very frequently as well, dropping webs under the feet.
We did commit the bloodlust here to try to get through this into phase three.
It's more important to get into phase three to practice it, even if you don't have
bloodlust to get through the scary overlaps there than it is to lose the pull entirely.
So with two DPS dead, now three with Jinji dying as well.
They did commit to Bloodlust in order to try to push through.
Unfortunately, the more players you have dead,
the more it starts to cascade.
You don't have damage for all of the adds
and someone messes up going through the Shadow Portal.
So we lost the pull,
but back into phase two, which is good.
We need to continue working on that consistency.
And as we get good pulls, we'll call those out,
but keep your donations coming in.
We got $10 with a heart for the support staff.
Love that.
We'll be sending that straight down to Julia to say,
look chat loves you they want to talk to you about all the amazing dishes you make
yeah yeah very interesting to see what she thinks as well must be quite a thing
that we've been here for such a long time the event is still ongoing I remember
I spoke to my nan yesterday I gave her a ring I said how are you going you know
you're coming home yeah oh you've been there for such a long time trying to
explain to them kind of how it all works
like no no they weren't killed it yet just like what's so hard why don't they
just kill it yes thanks man yeah we got a we got a $1 donation from schematic
chiding me England has so many accents because of how old our country is the
angle settled mostly in the Midlands in the East the jutes in the Kent and along
the South Coast and the Saxons in the area south and west of the Thames
Americans wouldn't understand because of course everyone knows Americans are a
singular entity from only one location in the world with no reason to have a
homogenous-sounding language at all.
Actually, British history is so fascinating because I think it might be one of the single
most contested pieces of land on the planet, right?
You had the native Britons get conquered first by the Romans, so you have an introduction
of Latin as the Romans there.
And then the Romans flee because what's his faith, Constantine or something like that
wanted to go be emperor in the east, leaving the native Britons with that influx of Latin,
Saxons, Jutes and Engels start conquering them, bringing their language over.
Then they subsequently get invaded and conquered by the Danes bringing that language over.
And then they subsequently get conquered by the Normans bringing some French influence
in the language.
Of course, your language is a chimera because you just can't stop being conquered.
Have you tried not being conquered?
What if we like it?
Maybe you do.
Although you did turn around and then take over the rest of the world in vengeance.
So, you know, turns out how it turns out.
You're ripped.
$25 donation from
slob yous blue blue blues
slob blue blue blues that name. Can you say it for me?
slob boss blue blue blue boss. I think that is in fact a British name
saying for the whore
For the alliance. Are you team alliance or whore? Okay, so it depends on how you mean I
Do you play I think
Do you prefer I play a dwarf? Okay, but I prefer the whore
except that the racial suck.
Dwarf is just so good.
It's so good.
You know that dungeon, I think it's Stone Vault
where they throw a cog at you and you're silenced
for three seconds.
Yes, I agree.
Yeah, as a mage, I'm sure you love that
with the lens on you in the middle of your cast.
Yep, Cosnicalatial Spike takes ten minutes
to cast it, gets silenced just as it goes off.
One of the ways Dwarf is so good,
if you're the healer, I can cleanse you,
although I'm not going to bother,
But if I get that debuff, I'm screwed, right?
Just stoneform it off and you're fine.
There's so many examples in which stoneform is so crucial and so amazing.
I wouldn't be at all surprised, by the way.
Obviously, they're doing a lot of race changes here to get gnomes for the escape artist tree
and remove the roots.
I wouldn't be surprised if dwarf wasn't the next best.
Because with dwarf, you can self-dispel your own gloom burst in phase two at a
propitious time instead of waiting for a healer to spell.
I'm not sure what other valuable racials there might be I wonder if shadow meld
works on the team I don't know if that's possible but I know that it works for the
last boss in city of echoes where you go into the shadowy puddle yeah kind of
rooted and consumed by a blob that stops you from getting dragged into the
boss and if you Shadow Meld it or Invisit it frees you.
I think that works.
I think it's because the ad is targeting you, you're kind of consumed by it.
Yeah.
If you lose...
They lose targeting.
Yeah, so it kind of frees you.
Same reason that like a knockup ability works, it disrupts their cast and faint or faint,
I'm sorry if the Hunter's works for the same reason, but that is a good point.
I have seen some mages opting to drop shimmer for regular blink because if you get grabbed
by the silken tomb in phase three shackles come down you're rooted and
slowed if you touch it you get turned and stunned you can blink out of stuns
yeah the base blink breaking you out of stuns exactly right but you do lose the
extra charge that shimmer gives you opting for ice flows instead I don't
know how much value that does ice flow provide so I you press ice flows and your
next cast is castable while moving pretty nice good but well for frost it
It will definitely have more value for fire and arcane. I think it was very valuable for fire last expansion because you'd hardcast the pyroblast
Which is a long cast you don't want to get interrupted so you could ice-flow there
Can you push it in the cast?
Or can you start pyroblast and then flows to continue casting a pyroblast while moving or do you have to preemptively so you press
It before and then it's your next cast there is a little bit of tech with ice flows where you can kind of overlap it and kind of
squeeze extra charges out of it. Interesting. So there's some tech to it. But it can devalue
with more haste because the faster you cast, the less distance you're going to cover with
ice flows. So, you know, if your cast becomes one second cast, you're not going very far.
So you're not going to really cover a significant amount of distance that if you get any mechanic,
usually Shimmer can take you that distance, right, to deal with the mechanic. Well,
We have seen our mages sticking with that shimmer finding a lot of value from that that that might last until one of them gets hit by the silicon
Tomb, and you know, I want to blink out, but I can't
Yeah, I feel like shimmers so good because of the web dragon and also in the final phase
Oh
Expansion
Expansion I'm sorry. I have to make that joke once a day. You should make it every day every time
Every time someone says dragon
It's funny because I've bullied Mike so much with this, but he now says, drag in.
Emphasizing.
Instead of dragging him, he's so scared I'm going to hit him with that execrable joke.
Baham Baba.
He's going to say Baham book then.
Bahamut sent in $10 saying, and this is for you Jordan.
Oh.
I swallowed some paint the other day.
Same.
The doctor says I'm going to be okay, but I feel like I died a bit inside.
That is so clever.
I can't even joke.
That was great. I love that.
Anonymous sending in $10 with another joke. Where do bad rainbows go?
Where?
Prism. It's a light sentence and it gives them time to reflect.
That's amazing.
That was great.
That was good. It had a good punchline and a good follower.
Yes.
10 points. Marlin sending in $10.
in $10. What did the constipated mathematician do? He worked it out with a pencil. I almost
didn't want to read it, but I mean it's almost wholesome because he's solving the problem,
but also wow. Indeed, alright. MPOP sending in $1 in order to send in this pun for you.
Why did Queen Ansaric start to learn Python?
Why?
She wanted to improve her web design.
Of course.
That is a great joke.
That's a great joke.
I really enjoyed that one.
That was good.
Very clever.
Oh, here we go.
Just for Julia, anonymous with a dollar,
Gigachad makes the team of cats with amazing food.
Gigachad ensures they have energy and sustenance.
Gigachad refuses to elaborate.
Gigachad, that's Julia.
There we go.
Good pasta.
Amen.
True.
Does such a great job.
Yeah, she's lovely as well. I really enjoy coming in and chatting with her, even though she's very busy.
She is. It's funny because when I was gonna ask her, I did too, we don't have any fobs as casters, so we can't get through the door.
So I plaster myself against the door, she sees me and comes up at me and I'm like,
How much time do you have? How busy are you this morning? She looks at me like it's a trick. Why?
What do you want?
I'm not gonna commit to not being busy depending on what you're gonna ask me. She isn't here. Very busy.
I'm anonymous sending in $25 saying, Julia!
Yes, I agree.
Numa 5000
Sending a dollar to say loving the race world first and everything that comes with it.
Very kind and big agree.
Schematic kidding you with one dollar. That's the one that had
criticized my
description of English accents as being too varied for the geographical location which they are constrained saying simply Touche.
One of that French influence I see.
Decadence. Giving us a $10 joke. Two parrots are sitting on a perch.
Right. One turns to the other and says, something smells fishy.
Okay, that's good. Why are they sitting on a fish? Love those puns.
I love it. I love it. Another anonymous $10 donation saying, let's go echo chicken burger.
Okay. I recently so I was wondering what a chicken burger is.
Is it not just a chicken burger? What's a chicken burger?
So instead of a beef patty, it's chicken. Is it ground up chicken?
I mean, I suppose no. Okay, so it's just a chicken sandwich.
You could have like, but it's in a burger bun.
But also you can have like buttermilk chicken burgers.
It's kind of like, it's like, no matter what I say, it's going to end up being a chicken
sandwich.
It's a chicken sandwich.
Why do you call it a burger?
It's a burger if it's ground meat.
It's a burger bun.
It's a bun.
It's a burger bun.
It's a burger bun.
It's a burger bun.
That's what makes it the burger, Jesse.
No, what makes it the burger is ground meat.
You have a hamburger.
That's ground beef.
You have a turkey burger.
There's no harmony.
That's ground up turkey.
That is true.
I would just call that a chicken sandwich, but I think it's not uncommon to call it a chicken burger
But it sounds so weird to me because it sounds like it's grinding up chicken, which I suppose would be fine
Yeah, I mean you can get turkey burgers
Yeah, I suppose you could I mean it's a bit like a big chicken nugget in the burger
Nuggets are nice. They are very nice. Why ruin it with a bun?
I love adding calories I mean so do I but I'll just take another beef patty and skip the bread
that was like when we had a burger buff the other day yeah medic said oh these vegan burgers
they're so so good you can barely taste the difference between them and the beef burgers
they were identical but he just took two beef burgers which is why they tasted very similar
I did have one of the vegan burgers oh yeah actually and they were quite nice but you could
definitely tell the difference it was not right you can tell but it still
tasted good as long as you don't go and expecting it to taste like meat
yeah i suppose there's two things to that right where some people who
maybe vegan may not want something to taste like meat
true but then also some people still wanting to
enjoy you know burger is always a good thing right it's similar to
uh like nuggies or these kind of traditional things that you have that
are meat so having a version that's meat-free so you can enjoy it no
no matter your diet is also very nice.
I can understand the argument for both sides of,
I don't want it to taste like meat,
that's why I'm a vegan.
But also, I want to be a vegan,
I want to have this diet,
but I also want to eat the more traditional meals,
if we can call it traditional,
still enjoy those kinds of meals that we've had anyway,
just have it more catered towards my diet.
Absolutely.
Yeah, some people go vegan for various reasons,
either because they don't like the idea
of consuming animal flesh or animal welfare
or their own health,
and depending on those reasons,
you might want to have meat substitutes make that idea more attractive to them.
Julia is having to do with the fact that there are a couple vegetarians here among the players,
so she is making sure that they have their options as well while providing meat to those who want
that instead. So keeping that flexibility, adding to the burden of cooking for this enormous number
of people and players, but doing a fantastic job, as always, and it's a huge upgrade in
previous races. Well, first we've largely existed off of catered food, which depends
on the quality of the local restaurants and we've had, you know, pluses and minuses, highs
and lows there, but this time with Julia it's been a pleasure.
Yeah, we've had some beautiful meals. We had a very nice, it wasn't risotto, it was orzo
rice or I think it's actually a pasta. It is a pasta, yeah. With some salmon on top.
It was lovely. It was lovely. We've had a nice helping of fish, right? We had a
sauteed whitefish a couple of days ago on some rice and then we had the salmon pasta yesterday which was lovely
looking like a bit of a phase one wipe here. Yeah if you are tuning in we had some very very strong
pools early this morning getting into phase three quite frequently throughout their morning
we are having a little bit of regression here in phase one which is you know it's going to happen
no progression is linear. You have those ups and downs that was always the way, but we do want to see
them getting back into phase three. But having their best pull today, phase three, 27.3%, I would
say it's not too doom and gloomy yet. So I think it's been a very successful day so far.
Absolutely. That's a great start to the day, right? Getting right into phase three, which
they have achieved on their third pull, getting to phase three, three or four times in a row,
getting a best pull of the entire progress that early in the morning. And of course, they have
many many hours of progress ahead of them so an optimistic beginning to the
day we got another $25 donation again saying chicken burger people out there
are agreeing another $25 donation saying nothing Omega giga Chad keep them
rolling in all of that money going to a fantastic cause and earning you
entertainment as well we've had some great shows already whose cast is it
anyway oh you did such a great job with that it was really really fun
and some amazing jokes coming out from all of you.
Operation Medic was a really good time.
You and I?
Yeah, I missed that live.
I watched it.
I watched StarForge Flashback
and I was hysterically laughing.
I was dying laughing.
Make sure you check out the StarForge Flashback
for Operation Medic, it was so funny.
And then we had the cosplay that we did already.
You and I were on a team.
Oh yeah, it was Nogura, Medic and Alex,
and then it was me, you and Mike.
And they opted for a Queen Ancerap cosplay,
which to be fair was very good. Yeah. I like the legs that they did. It was recognizable.
Yeah. Which is all you can ask for when we're working with cardboard and trash bags. That's
how scary it was. Oh my goodness. The castor room was an absolute mess. We had total arts
and crafts the whole day because we was working on like cosplays all day, especially
Medic and Alex working for hours. Yeah. We completely trashed the castor room.
We meanwhile you and I put on a box. We did. It was a really good box. We put
It was so creative. You came up with the idea and it was fantastic. The great vault.
Oh, let's dress up as the great ball. We just had one of those secret lab huge boxes
that the chairs come in. Put you in that.
Did you know I went back and watched that and we got a little bit flamed on the catwalk.
Chad was like, all they do is put on a box. This is terrible. But then when we came
in here and Preach started pulling out the prizes from the vault, then Chad was
like, okay, never mind. This is actually pretty good.
Hold, Chad. Hold.
Yeah. Don't pull the lucho too.
We made all the little trinkets, you made a neck, we made a little sword.
Yeah, we made that sword.
But then he thought it was a staff.
Oh yeah!
Backfowl demons!
Preacher Caster at heart, I guess.
It could have been a dagger or anything.
We've been struggling a little bit at this kind of point coming up in phase one.
So it might be worth talking briefly, it's been a while since we talked about the fight,
about all the things that can potentially go wrong at this juncture where we go
from phase one into the intermission at around the two-minute mark we're about one
minute in so I do want to potentially call that out and hopefully get everyone
through a live because everyone knows if the casters are casting it it helps the
players they're less likely to fail if we bless the pull agreed if you start
paying attention that's when things go really really well and we give them our
energy exactly you say great things like there's no way that any of our
players will get behind these green swirlies. They're too good. The webblades are going to be dodged by heavy...
This is why people hate us. Guys, it's a coincidence. There's no such thing as castor curses.
It's a coincidence. Copium. Copium. It can't have anything to do with it. It's a real accident.
You're cheating already. Check. But here we are. Here we are at the really bad overlap. And I
want to describe to you everything happening under the scenes because it's actually quite
difficult to deal with this. We get the four toxins all at once that need to be positioned ahead
of the rig, followed immediately by roots that they want to put behind them by the previous void
zones. Then they get blades which they have to bait forward off of the bombs so they can go back
and get in the bombs safely without getting hit by the blades. Pop one, two, three, four over
the bombs one second apart which is a lot of coordination in itself and then they're dealing
with this huge four stack of the frothy poison. Yeah going into the intermission this is one of the
most terrifying moments because you have that damage rolling, you get a big pulse of damage
going out as well which has proved to be quite, why do you almost don't notice they've got that
damage with tea. Yeah we saw a huge number of utility going out, time dilations on a couple
players in fact Bryson got a spell warding bop to protect him so that he could hymn safely
without having to worry about the damage. Everyone coming through alive thus far now
And now we're going to get another pull in.
This one doing escalated damage.
So again, you're going to see everyone popping personals
that enrage regen on Revis in order to survive this blessing
of sacrifice going out from Narco and Vayner as well.
They did a good job dealing with that.
Now the last thing they need to do
is finish off the last 5% of the shield
before the third yank.
This one looking quite good.
Yes, they successfully move on through to phase two.
Very, very nice.
We want to be getting back into that third phase.
We had quite a lot of falls there today.
So it's fantastic.
Just get as much practice as we possibly can.
Knowing where they're going with each part of that fight,
the webs that shackles, that shackle everybody,
it does also distribute the damage
between the waves of ads that come onto the third platform,
making sure they can demo as fast as possible.
Oh, many!
I guess what happened.
Many!
He's just adjusting his damage meter.
And of course, now he's topping
because he adjusted what the damage meter was showing
In the middle of flying, of course, you know, he's already been knocked.
Let's adjust our damage meter to show relevant DPS production doing a great job.
What they're doing here from production side is rotating toward each player that's going
to be going through these portals.
They showed hopeful POV as he went through a portal.
Unfortunately losing Banner and Soul and Klick.
So we're three players down coming onto this platform, including a healer down.
Zazi is going to be solo healing, the hardest healing part of the fight.
Yeah, not only the solo healing, but also with the amount of gloom touches that are going out that is another dispel that they don't have available and that still does a lot of damage to the player who has it taking damage down onto them.
Making sure that they are also interrupting the portal as the battle res goes out on banner here and they move on through to the third and final platform few players dropping a little bit low but they're trying to stabilize as they move on through.
Come on, let's get another phase three pull.
Absolutely, you can see on the right hand side,
Queen Ancerac is casting Acidic Apocalypse.
That's the time limit for getting off
of this third platform, 25 seconds remaining.
We've missed a portal, unfortunately,
which is gonna be the end of this pull.
They're just struggling to get back into phase three
to continue that progression.
Of course, the post wipe toxicity.
All right, why did the early deaths occur?
What happened?
And unfortunately, typically,
those are gonna be individual errors.
Yeah, I feel that just because there's,
unfortunately went down there but also he has had a rough time this tier he got
a quite serious injury very severely burning his hand in this raid tier I
think it may have been heroic week but I'm coming the exact timeline but he had
a very very big injury of his hand I can't imagine having to play or playing
this well as they were always does and also having to deal with a very
difficult rate here playing for this amount of time for the severely burnt
hand. He is doing fantastic. He is one of the most reliable and longest lasting members of the team,
one of the officers managing all of the DPS. Although he almost ended up as a healer a long
time ago. Oh, did he? Yeah, a long time ago, during the farm on Jaineteer going into Eternal
Palace, this team lost a healer and was having Zeruo reroll healer getting Paladins ready
when I joined and saved him from that fate worse than death. That was an alternate timeline
in which Zero ended up as a healer man, but he is still on that warlock blasting. We have
a couple more donations to run through really quick, anonymous ending in $25, keeping that
total ticking upward toward $35,000. We may hit that 40 grand, which is just phenomenal.
So thank you so much.
Wow, like so much money raised.
There is. It's incredible. A pun, which I heard yesterday, $10 in from also Zen.
But I heard it. I'm gonna ask you what you call a rest or druid fighting in tree form
Combat log
Yeah, there it is. Okay, a huge donation coming from anonymous with
five hundred and
Twelve dollars. Oh my goodness an enormous contribution. That's 500 children aided
Really appreciate all of the generous all of you of course the big ones
But also the little ones however much you can afford it all contributes
We were told by Nathan that every dollar affects a child. So we're currently at 32,471
Just two and a half thousand away from our thirty five thousand dollar goal for the Mary bar an enormous sum
For which we are very grateful. Yeah, that's fantastic donation
Every little helps if only every one person donated one dollar that goes such a long way as we're saying one dollar in
Rich is one child's life who is in hospital battling through
whatever illness they may be suffering from and also providing the let's let's
say after care with the you know the sponsorships and the internships
available for them later on in life having missed out potentially on those
key educational years so it is a wonderful charity fantastic cause and
we very much appreciate everything anything that is contributed yeah 32,000
Amazing. Thank you all so much. I have been told by Mitch that there are some comms available
We could potentially listen in for a little while and hear what they're talking about
Which is always interesting. What are they focusing on getting that inside view as opposed to what we see on the outside list?
So let's have a little bit of a listen in with wave everybody
Great thing. I think
Like even though you cannot play it like why like you just forcing like hopeful soul like half the group to just
Walk for three seconds because you don't bet it
Yeah, I think the idea of this would be that you just never bait across, like Kanek said,
and you always bait on the side he jumps in.
I mean, he's literally teleporting into insta-beam.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, he always does that.
That's why I pre-stand a little bit on using my picture, yeah?
I pre-stand where he TV's there to bait him, yeah?
So he aims to the left, and that's normally what happens as well.
Of course, I understand what that is.
Thank you.
I think it's extremely easy for the range to dodge the beam.
Can we just mute first for the last time?
No, wait, finding Cuban?
I'm muted every fucking time.
Is it ours? I can't hear it anymore.
I feel like...
But that's not on the...
I mean, we cannot, shouldn't we?
Mechanicus.
Nobody here gets it?
Yeah, usually it's good, but I don't want people to...
You know, as we get further into progress, to relax on this.
No, I mean...
We're gonna die on this.
And then like, Ivo gets all this, like, playing on the front of the platform as well.
No, I don't know, but I think that's close to the...
...objuslyn.
And they're stacking up guys.
Facing.
And Blades.
On point of view.
No, looking good.
And watching Balops here.
First wave.
Second wave.
Getting ready for the routes.
Into Blades.
And Blades coming up again.
Need help on the next routes.
Yeah, we're moving to the next route.
Oh, for sure.
and matrix coming up course.
Was that the right?
Yeah, yeah.
Lates here,
lights going out, the dodging,
the routes after.
And lagging it, lights coming up,
into talks and positions.
Ready to lag it over.
Lagging it over here,
good baits.
My God, it's over.
What happened to the transcendence actually?
I've placed it there before.
I mean, we did YAPRA quite a while, maybe it's a lot.
No, no, no. It was in the middle. I'm so confused what happened.
I have to check this one, so it was a result.
I was even checking it.
Ah, oh no. Okay, it's fine.
There was a little bit of a fendabokiba in going on.
Right, check.
My bad.
We're low and just checking out.
That's a place for you.
I broke one
I saw that hook with last
then with blades come here
and get ready to dodge the blobs
first wave
second wave
interrutes
and blades come up
napkins come up here
chucks come here
watching the blobs
watching blobs and blades now
do I have a steam or something?
I'll stay the week, fuck it
And we're late to come out.
We're gonna have to pop on first, sir.
And then we have the toxin positions.
We should go there already.
You can get it.
And we're ready to leg it over.
Legging it over here.
And then we're dodging the blobs.
I'll tell the cycle, actually.
Dodging blobs, guys.
Imaging three.
One now.
Ready for first group.
Four and two.
One, now, the gas pot, put in the first wave, and third wave, getting ready for the left person, yeah.
Moving three, two, one, now, first wave, second wave, keep on blasting, third wave, put in the third wave, you're good.
I mean, I don't know, we can maybe do it with my lead pull-ups, do you think?
We're gonna be fine, bro.
And make it clean, please.
Push the orbs, and here's one.
Push the orbs again.
And the spells are two.
One, now.
Push the orbs.
And last orbs.
Yeah, but I'm not careful.
Yeah, we're gonna see 20 seconds.
This should be fine.
Make the last pull-in level mini next, spell pull-in, 2, 1, off the Reverson next, the spell's in 2, 1, now, this last pull-in we can squeeze.
Eight timers here, running up, Hanex Narco next, he has the fall, spells in two, one, now.
Icebeam's Kush next, spells in two, one, now.
Just hook the land, going up, and real timers coming up.
Now, range don't be too close to this and watch the orcs, just follow them from here.
and the spell is in 2, 1, now, watch the orbs
I'll take it if you don't have one
watch the orbs
and the cross spell is in 2, 1, take it
watch the knock
good, fucking job
I'm getting up to off
insane
Reminds me of Annex, not of the first ones, but the second one.
Reba frags.
You pick up.
Yeah, talk me.
Yeah.
I'm gonna go stage.
Ready for pull baits.
Control on the adds.
There's some big adds and blades coming.
And blades under you now.
Portal's going between Starring Cross and Starring Pillow.
In case you were you are
Let's go to the blaze gold mine
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm pushing
I'm pushing the spawners
I'm pushing the spawners
I'm placing under you, after this
Place under you now
No, that's me
I'm going to go bait range slowly
I'm going to keep that one
I'm in bait position
Wolf's the gate
Yeah, after you bait
You can play the blaze here if you want
Blades coming first. Blades under you now.
You can gate over if you want, or should shackles coming between circle and green.
Circle and between circle and green.
Blades coming soon, under you now.
Also going between circle and green, and green pillar.
Blades with them.
Blades under the circle and green, and green pillar now.
Look at any essence backups you need to do.
canyx you will need to you will die if you pick up you cannot pick up it's more
here pick up then you can do that yes back it up and get enter enter enter
and spread spread spread good shackles to the blue pillar your
rescue is at sea blue pillar guys far when you run in with the shackles
I think he just took the gate.
I mean, the people that died did not take the gate.
What?
I'd looked at least.
Is it right that Fana died with the Royal Condemnation and it didn't insta-trigger but it blew up where his body was a few seconds later?
No, all of the devils stayed and he died on the body.
I got a Simon to suck myself though.
That's not the one.
and make it a good problem.
What did you die to exactly?
I wanted to ask about this actually.
Is it possible that I get assigned on the spread far left?
Because like I was only close to the pillar behind.
Then there's like the...
the ops flying towards me if you see like on my board.
Yeah.
And it just like blocked by the frames.
I always have to like do like some LMG the last second dodge.
And what I do.
Just like a healer debuff with the frames.
Yes. If I was on far left, that would never be an issue.
You want to swap with the North?
Alright, chat. Important to note that even though the casters were gone, they still wiped.
We deliberately stayed out of that poll because you guys are so worried we're cursing them, but they still wiped.
We're not bad luck, Copium.
No, that's why. It's not us, but we were in the classroom saying it was a really good poll with Mike and Alex.
He complained them as well.
It was a really good pull. We got to a pretty crucial moment as far that's been a little bit of a stumbling block, right?
That that second drop of shackles that they're trying to drop right next to the acolytes killed three people with the drop
So either they need more mitigation or better movement in order to get far enough away from that so that everyone survives it
They did kill the round of four acolytes and they did successfully transport the seven souls
But then again that next shackle we struggled to get them all stacked far away
so looking for a gate with it we did hear Roger say we should just get with that. Yeah we're having
a few reloads going out so it's going to be a little bit more of tinkering with the weak aura but
that was a fantastic pull. We had a little bit of a phase one shenanigans for a few pulls
but it is excellent to see them once again getting to phase three and that was a clean
pull as well. That was a very clean phase three I think they only needed to commit one
Battle res went into the last phase with one additional one. Yeah, so yeah
It was a pretty good poll. Good poll now
They're gonna work a little bit on that positioning with those third spike
I think we're gonna have a wine time moment where Roger says okay
So in order for so it'll be partially Roger and partially Potter in order to deal with the second set of shackles
Place next to the acolytes in order to increase cleave. We need to survive that they do damage based on proximity
three people died so we need to add a divo or a mastery or a rallying cry or maybe a stasis with
some gulfs or personals. We did see personals get sent there. Two people had time dilations.
You can always tell because they get a monk staggered debuff, right? That's that time dilation
in action. So they have a plan for it. It just wasn't enough. This is where Potter goes back
to the spreadsheets and say, okay, where can we get another 10% mid? Which maybe as simple as
just having everyone else move away, right? And then we're also going to be going to the
wine time for Roger to say, okay, so now after those accolades die and we're heading to the
third round, we need a gateway, zero. You're going to be putting it from here to here so that
that triple set can all be stacked far from the race. Yeah, because people are struggling to find
their feet a little bit with the shackles. Also, because if you go through the portal,
when you come out the other side, you will have a ring around you so you'll have everybody
that went through the portal having to quickly spread, making sure they don't
overlap each other, and when you're doing that you can offset your positioning if you
then get the shackles and you are way way far away on the opposite side that you need to be to drop
them. You can really struggle to get there, especially if you are a less mobile class. So
having a gateway there will kind of mitigate any of that RNG of not just praying it goes on somebody
mobile, not just praying it goes on somebody who's closer to that area. Having a gateway there
is going to very much rectify it and make sure everyone's in position. Yeah, such a good
point because they can't be in the position where they're wiping nearly because someone's
getting a mechanic to have mad before. There's so much RNG. Two people out of twenty get the
first portals. Two people out of twenty get the second. Two people out of twenty get the third.
Three people get the shackles. You don't know who's going to get it. You need to be ready to
immediately perform correctly even though you haven't been able to practice it before
and that's why they keep having this one time. Everyone currently staring at the second monitor.
See hopeful head on chin staring at a second monitor. Gingy staring at second monitor.
That's school time. That's Roger saying this is what we need to do. Make sure you do it
right when we get this we can get ever. Oh no these expressions. I can relate to every
single one of these expressions. That's the studious look. Yeah. That's the look of the
melee cartel. I don't know what it is I'm looking at. I may just cloak. It looks like
nice fiends are just staring at nothing. Just the middle of the monitor. Let me use
demon hunter what does he need to do we have seen them that's very funny seeing
the difference between the DPS period is the healers he was intently looking at
their other monesties he saw a fan of air yeah I mean it's a it's a very difficult
healing fight we have seen them also there's a little bit of stuff happening
under the hood in that last phase we haven't talked about a huge amount because
there's so much happening every time you go through the portal you come out
with one of those circles that requires a big spread and does a lot of
damage so if you can avoid going through the portal to evade that
wave. That saves a lot of damage and space. So we've seen nice memes flying over it. The
warlock's teleporting through it. Maybe it's blinking over it. Even Revis, I believe, has
managed to simply heroic leap over it. If you get a high enough peak. So we'll be keeping
an eye on the debuffs coming out of that portal to see how many we're actually dealing
with. That's a nice bit of mitigation. Yeah. And if they can use their utility to mitigate
as many of those rings as possible, you're essentially freeing up the player space.
Exactly. That's going to be very important. And again, it's a very clever way to incorporate utility into the raid fight. Yep
Really enjoying it. Using the ability movement abilities. Also seeing the min-max the optimization of all of the DR right.
Seth here giving you some DR, but also some movement speed being particularly useful for the spread out moments.
And then we have the horrible overlaps where you go with seven people carrying around an acolyte soul ticking down
extremely fast into
Immediate damage from the follow-up shackles
Just a horrifically gigantic amount of damage that they're going to continue optimizing making sure they have a healing and mitigation to get through
So interesting to watch trying to make sure that we progress through the fight
Gonna wind time it up and make sure that they don't waste any pull that successfully gets into phase three
What are we? Oh the wine time? Yeah
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working so hard to make this happen.
Yeah, hopefully we can see a lot more phase 3.
Yep.
As we are going into another pull, let's get back there, back to back phase 3, get that
progression in, find your feet in that final phase and then we need to find this damage
because we have quite a lot of us HP to knock off.
Yeah, we were taking a look at the analyst desk in between these pulls during our little
break and seeing what they're doing with potions.
seeing a large number committed in the intermission but it's no longer all of
them. They are trying to milk a little bit of damage on the boss by sending three
or four DPS potions on pull. Canyx and Kush most notably of course that's going
to also set them up to be able to motion again either on the third platform
or at the very beginning of P3. Most of the other players are still
pushing on the intermission because we do need to get through that shield
in time to evade that third yank, that third pull in rest moment that
was otherwise lethal but already starting to min-mikes damage a little bit so it should
be worth paying a little bit of attention to the health threshold on the boss coming
out of that intermission that edging closer and closer to a 62% or 61% whereas yesterday
it was largely at 65 or 64 that will contribute to the 15% that the liquid is missing for
example so we want to keep an eye on that.
Yeah I know we said this a few times that again any damage done in phase one is going
be a significant amount of damage knocked off at the end of the fight as well as it's not transitioning
based on health percentage it's transitioning based off of a timer making damage throughout the fight
extremely valuable but the boss will spend the intermission and phase two immune so the damage
dealing phases are going to be phase one and phase three so very important while also having to
dodge the extraordinarily fast rapid amount of mechanics that are being shot out at them
every point of this fight. As you can see, perfectly shown here.
Yep, with the rallying cry going out as well as a bubble in order to survive that good heads-up play,
although we'll be missing that bubble later. Marco normally sending the bubble in order to
blessing of sacrifice someone in this upcoming overlap that we get two minutes into the
fight, extremely difficult. But whatever you need to do to live, you need to get through
these phase ones. And though they've done it enough that it looks easy, it isn't. It's
still quite hard. They just need to play very, very well. Symbol of hope coming out to reset
Everyone's personal because we're coming into the terrible overlap that does so much damage in such a short time
Yeah, you'll have the four venom bombs the silk and tombs going out at the same time need to make sure they're freeing themselves
as soon as possible and getting into position to
Detonate the venom bombs in a way that doesn't overlap with each other. We do unfortunately lose a few games
And everyone explodes
Everyone explodes
There's a there's a little bit of a cheat code to knowing how phase one is going one person dies
They messed up they stood in a web late where they stood in a big pile of poison view a
Portion of the group five six seven eight players dies that means they didn't jump over the Nova at the correct time
They got clipped by the Nova
Everyone dies means that they ran into that debuff that Jordan first called out a few days ago when we saw this fight for the first time
Oh, I remember yeah when we first saw Queen answer act
Yeah, we noticed that there was on mythic
there is a one-second delay before you can detonate the other venom bombs on heroic there are two puddles
You can you don't have to think about when you're popping them
You can essentially place it next to each other and just pop them at the same time get over the venom over
But on mythic you do have to be a little bit more
You do have to pay attention to timing a little bit more as there will be a one second delay
If you pop two within that one second
Massive rate damage as you saw
completely took out the most of the rate white yeah actually if you if we pay
attention to the people who are assigned to pop those bombs they have a week
where that pops up every time a bomb is popped the next person gets a week we're
saying don't pop for the time that one second duration of that debuff to ensure
that they don't send it during that but a little bit of a mistake there
obviously caused by people that were supposed to pop the bombs having died
someone else doing it and going off the trigger a little bit since chat is
so sure that us paying attention to the pool somehow curses it have a
couple ideas. This poll will just ignore it and talk about the donations. Next poll, we
could try reverse caster cursing and just like curse, you know, cast nastily. Talk about
how terribly they're doing how likely they get hit by everything. I think maybe that
would.
We should do some science while we're going through phase one for the 250 second time.
Let's figure out the nature of our impact on the polls here from the couch. Eddie,
you sent in $5 saying I'm playing war within every time I eat Greg's. Okay, I lied.
He said Taco Bell, but I wanted to throw it on the British instead.
The fact you laughed made it plausible.
Anonymous sending in $10.
Thank you for the money, a great aid to the children who need it.
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Buy gamers for gamers.
Can you explain which players are new in the raid compared to the last race
world first?
Oh, we actually have quite a few players whose first time
the in-person race to world first. We have wolf discos first time, minis first time, canyx, hopeful,
banner, and nice memes. Yeah nice memes as well. So it's all of their first time at the actual venue
the in-person race to world first event. Yeah absolutely and of course we have picked up
several trials after a major solo they've been playing on farm for the past few months getting
ready for this expansion. Several of which are in the raid, one of those being hopeful,
North American player who joined Echo after the last tier currently in the raid at the moment.
Anyone else that's new in the raid at the moment, nice memes I believe joined the previous tier.
Yeah, Thana joined last expansion, was it in Aberus? Was that his first trial?
During during the image or still farm was hit. I'm sorry. Then it was before an address. You're correct. That was his trial
Famously playing a wrestler shaman and having that on cura mode a moment. That was such a good moment. Yeah, what was that fight?
it was the
You kind of detonate the mines and you have ads going out trying to activate the mines across the fight
And the boss was so close to dying and he
He unked.
Everyone died.
He unked right as the last person died, and the boss died to dots and his last lava burst
as in the last person standing.
The hero moment every shaman dreams of.
And every paladin.
Yeah, if you can bubble and finish it off.
That actually happened in our Jaina kill in Limit, our world third Jaina kill after
Method killed it twice in a row, where our shaman Siori unked right at the end
end and another person was bubbled in order to finish off the boss. Hero moments are fun.
We have a $10 donation from Anonymous. Thank you very much. Emile Doulin. There are two
kinds of people in the world. One, those who extrapolate from incomplete data.
Who would do that?
I'm he.
And then that also is a double joke because there's nothing else.
Exactly.
Good one, I appreciated that. Then we got a $10 donation in from The Rat.
Oh no, not again.
How many devs does it take to change a light bulb?
7777777777
You think so, but in fact the answer is none. They'll nerf the darkness next patch.
Oh!
I like that, that's very clever.
Keep sending those jokes in, those dad jokes.
So what is the next iteration of the cast recurs? I think that we simply, you know, reverse-curse it.
Reverse-curse it. So here we have another set of web blades coming out. None of the players in this
raid sufficiently skilled to evade these dastardly blades that strike so quickly that the human eye can
barely react somehow through pure luck. They managed to evade it, but not to worry. Another
set of blades coming in back to back. An incredibly horrific overlap that is almost
impossible to succeed. Yeah, they are not dodging very well here as this is going
terribly. Proving by me, Volker. Go down. Go down.
In a very bad position. Yeah, going into these bombs with one person too few.
And of course. Okay, let's not do that again. Maybe we shouldn't. Not gonna do
that again. So, so far, everything we have tried has ended in miserable failure.
If we say they're doing well, they wipe. If we say they're doing badly, they wipe.
If we read donations they wipe it seems like chat probably wants us to
Only time they did well is when we
Castors overrated
Castors overrated. All right. What are we trying? Are we trying to be very positive next pull?
Oh, you know what we should do instead of casting with like excitement and verb
Let's just be very bored or jazz time. Yeah, we're gonna jazz time the next pull
We're going to leave tomorrow and maybe we can pull up a little bit of your hands.
Very calm, very cool. In fact, we can emulate Scribe and Mirrors as they're raid leading.
They have very wonderful raid leading.
It's true.
It's very relaxing.
It is. I worry sometimes that people are going to fall asleep when they're just
carefully saying, okay, now we're going to place the shackles.
No urgency, nothing to worry about.
Whenever you can, get over to the side.
A nice little ready check coming in from here is making sure that everyone's prepared for the pull.
No pressure. It's not like there's a race to hold first going on.
No, it's not like we're in a race. Take your time.
Make sure you're ready.
The evokers, of course, all not ready.
Look at him. He pinged them because the three evokers weren't ready.
Once he pinged them, they responded,
Yes boss, we're ready after all.
seems like the evokers are rioting. Yeah, those Drax here. Isn't that what they're called?
Dragons? Yeah, they have been a MVP class this expansion so far. The preservation, doing so much healing,
devastation, devastating the enemies, and of course, augmentation. Of course, they have lives, so you can't drag in a dragon.
that's very good thank you very much all right going into a nice calm hole here no
mistakes only happy little accidents as we successfully evade those blades and
go to our first round of bombs these are very chill very calm you have an entire
second in which to wait and pop your bomb very calm no worries for anyone
Now all you have is a little bit of raid damage, just get everybody healed and topped up,
gotch the plates, make the pools, in your own time.
Delicately pull the boss into the previous pool of poison to drop the next poison, poison
on poison action, dropping our webs in here to see some Emerald Communions being used
to mitigate the damage of placing those so nicely, really artistic positioning you
can see coming out from the raid as we enjoy this moment.
delicate dodging of the blades. Just making sure in your own time that you spread out for
the toxin. Find a space whenever you can.
Yeah, there's no rush here. Three toxins each needing to find their own spot in order to
have the correct positioning for this bump. Because of course, if you're the third one
you have to wait two seconds more than the first two in order for that debuff to expire.
We need to be further away, but that's easily done by these excellent and calm gamers.
Yeah, making sure to take in those big swirly's out, not clipping anyone, can be nice and slow.
No rush at all, very relaxed. We have that lingering poison, but that's no big deal, it's only three stacks.
Dealing with these blades, the hopeful tuned in the poison, but he's a mage, he can get that one every time.
He's got plenty of times.
Fixed for a million damage per second, but that's nothing to worry about.
No, that's just one heal. No big deal.
Correct.
Symbol of hope coming out to reset everyone's personal's hopeful being warranted needs to
pop mirrors here to mitigate some of the damage coming in.
Four bombs here, but if you can handle three bombs, you can handle four.
Well, we have a little dut there, but it's no big deal.
We have a battle res for just such moments.
Yeah.
And what is life without a bit of death?
absolutely now unfortunately with many having died everyone has five stacks of
the frothing poison but that just means the healers have an opportunity to show
why they belong in echo pumping even more healing here dealing with the five
stacks it's not a big deal yeah you know they take extra damage here with these
circles around them but it's all right there's still a lot of damage going out
Anyways, they're gonna be popping CD. So what is a little bit more damage while you're making sure you're using call downs on call down
You know get attracted we do lose another damage dealer, but it's no big deal
We just have a shield to breathe. Yeah, they know the boss is hungry
She's trying to cast the Vowler in predation
So she's taking a little nibble on the raid and they're indulging her by feeding their essence to her and saving her appetite
Really considered of them very very nice
Well, they got further.
They did.
They did indeed.
Unfortunately, Mini going down there is actually really, really impactful because he's the
only player in the raid that can sit there and blast on the shield, completely ignoring
all of the inks with deserbants and AMS rotations.
So he is by far the highest DPS on that shield.
In fact, he typically goes from the bottom of your meter all the way to the top just
in that intermission.
Him dying there meant that they couldn't get through the shield.
Very impactful.
Yeah, they have carefully allocated and plotted out every step of this fight even when we was looking in the logs that where they were popping their DPS pots for example, we've had a varied.
We had some people popping on polls, some people popping for intermissions, some people popping in phase two, so they have very carefully allocated their resources.
So depending on who you lose that can be very detriments or as you're saying with a mini dealing a large portion of the
Damage on that shield there going to be very
Significant if we do lose him in comparison to someone who's not necessarily popping cooldowns
Although that shield does need to go down. So it does it's bit scary
Here's a question for you. Oh, how's your cacona accent or okay?
We can do this one of two ways for our next cast or curse either. I can be British and you can be
Missouri. Okay. Or you can be super British and I'll be super Missouri. Don't worry love.
I could do an American accent. Let's do it this way first and then we'll reverse it. So you do
super British and I'll be super Kekona for this pull. Okay. I'll bring this in. Here we go. It's
pretty easy for these folks. It's not a big deal. They're going into the pool dealing with
the first set of mechanics. It's just two bombs here which they know how to handle even though
their commies don't deal with bombs that often.
Oi mate, get in the right circle.
Shankya.
Shankya?
Of course you'd shank, you don't have firearms.
We got the First Amendment, the right to keep and bear arms.
No bear arms in here because Robin on his druid got benched.
He's a paladin now.
We don't care about that, just give me a cuppa.
A cuppa what?
Cuppa tea.
Cuppa tea, we drink coffee.
Throw your tea in the bay where it belongs.
No, we claim that as well.
I thought I'd just like come back into my normal accent.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, well, I ain't giggling. This is serious business. We're trying to down a boss here
Dodge these blades. Yeah, just knives. They don't have a right to keep and bear arms. They got no firearms
Just blade which are easy to deal with they ain't threatening at all going into another round of three bombs
They got a good time in riding these though
Hell yeah, hell yeah, brother
Oi! Make sure you bounce over these at the right time!
Yeah, you got that one second delay here!
Touching those balls that are going across the platform!
Warlocks are popping dark packed in order to survive this moment,
which is particularly difficult to overlap with damage,
but it's not too worry the healers have it under control
as we head into the next set of silken roots.
Yeah, get them blades out of here!
I have to cough the American out of my throat to contain you.
Oh my, I suppose we gotta dodge some mechanics here.
Indeed, because we're coming up on the most particular and difficult of all of the overlaps of Phase 1,
where at the same time they're going to have four bombs also need to simultaneously place their roots over here by the previous void zones
And then bait the blades far away from those bombs so they can return to the site from whence they came
They got so many blades to dodge and explode the venom bombs. Oh my how they're gonna do this
No problem with the amazing healers we have on this team
They're going to easily deal with this five stack of frothy toxin kicking on everyone
until they realize and lose their whole bit. I think
our cursed accents are also not working. What can we do? All right chat if you have any suggestions.
All right I think next time we need to be like. All right. Angie casting. Very angie casting on
the next one. This is bad. Let's see what Chad thinks. We got five dollars saying what did the
cast say on the pole where the boss died? Nothing. I was sent to the floor actually for
for the silken core kill, I cast a curse so it was sent to the floor and then they killed it.
Yeah, figures, of course they win, you run the floor.
We must appease the chat gods with the floor.
If angry casting doesn't work, we'll do a floor cast.
Okay.
Alright, we also got ten dollars from Crapsie, who said Idris woke up, and the ASMR casting
makes me want to sleep again.
Oh.
Well that's unfortunate, we're trying to keep you interested in the show.
If you do sleep, you know, just don't turn off your phone, because you got
get those channel points so you can earn some more delves yeah and you can steal all of roger's
loot how are we gonna do angry casting i'm just not a very angry person no me neither i feel like
out of everyone we needed mike here boy all right i'm gonna i'm gonna summon some ray
for this upcoming cast i'm kind of excited i'm gonna i'm gonna just let you take the will
We need anger from you too, we have to break through the anger.
How to angry?
How to angry, how to do it.
Chad help me out, they're getting a ready check and I'm trying to figure out how we're going to do this.
I need to...
I'm just saying just think about being here for a month.
I feel like maybe we just need to channel the production.
If we channel Sam and Mitch, we can channel some anger because they want to go home.
Stop trolling.
Carol's a boss.
Alright, we can do it. We can do it.
Finally, another pull coming out from the Somnilent team, which never pulls on time.
Don't they know there's a race to work first?
But alright, fine. I guess we'll pull now. Finally.
It's a race or anything. Why are we taking so long?
Why do we need 15 seconds of pull time, huh?
Yeah, I don't know why Robin hasn't popped his personal yet.
He's been dying so often to the liquid fight.
Somehow manages to survive against all expectations, mirrors, with the healing absorb.
Wonder if it'll come off. Don't know. Maybe they'll get a heal.
All tanks have to do is press taunt anyway, like what's so difficult?
Nothing! It's easy! Why do you think that Robyn's the lowest item level in the group,
ruining their item level, making Ekko look like they have no chance to win because
they're lower item level than every single other team on the boss?
Yeah, all we have to do is go into the Venom bombs and get knocked over the Venom wave.
Yeah, it's very simple. Just do it correctly. I can't imagine.
Well, like we're channeling chat, actually. What's so hard? This looks easy!
Well, it is! Just dodge the things. It's only two unavoidable.
Just kill it!
It's simple, and you've had 255 attempts!
How could you get it wrong again? I'm so disappointed.
If you think... Don't make me pull this couch over!
I will turn this whole race around!
Well, they won't turn it around, that's for sure.
They've been trolling all day.
What we need is for them to actually turn it around for once,
and send a poll that makes sense.
I'm so disappointed.
They have dodge displays so many times,
It's the same thing every single pole how difficult is it not very put the bombs in the right place
You've even got markers there are markers walk to the marker if you have a square you go to square
It's not that hard square goes on the square marker
Confusion all right now
We just have a three stack of frothing poison the healers should probably be able to heal this because they can't heal
They've shown that over and over again.
That's their job anyway.
Just heal it.
Just push a heal.
If I see you casting a living flame on the boss one more time when someone's ticking
down, that is over.
I don't know why you're laughing.
This is a big deal.
We're trying to win more of first.
This is very serious.
Yeah, we are in a race.
We need to get to phase three.
They had a whole entire day of trolling yesterday, so we need some significant progress
for today.
Excuse me.
I don't think they're going to be able to manage.
They're just waiting for Liquid to show them the strategy on the final phase.
They're not gonna do anything until liquid wakes up and can many do some damage, please
He's not on the meter at all. Where is our death knight at the bottom, of course
Yeah, it's almost like, you know, he's holding cooldowns for something
I don't know what though because you need to damage every start potion of this fight
You've got a battle rest for the last 30 seconds may vocal why haven't you accepted it yet?
Where is the res?
Magelite!
Magelite!
They now have 5 stacks of Frothing Poison for the 2nd pull in a row because someone was
dead when they were supposed to soak the bombs, which means that this is going to be even harder
for the Healers to heal, and they can't use any more difficulty because they can't heal
anyway!
They don't even have to move!
They're taking a Warlock Gate!
What are they doing?
Nothing!
It's the Hailer doing all the healing.
He just pushes one button and it bounces back and forth, and it's all smart healing.
They don't have to pick a target.
The Weakware Glow is showing them who's in danger!
Oh!
Good Guardian Spirit Rites, and it wasn't like you had a blue glow showing you
exactly where to put it. This is terrible! It's so bad. They're all at half health and
no damage has occurred for at least 10 seconds. Another pull in coming in 3 seconds. Maybe
they'll beat the damage check. Oh, they just managed to break the shield. How long are
you taking? Again, it's not like we're in a race or anything. Maybe you should think
about popping some DPS. Boss at 63%. It's supposed to be half over at this point
and we're only at 63%. They have no shot whatsoever of killing the boss in the last
phase if we even get there.
And these are just ads.
How hard can it really be?
Yeah, you see, Clix at half health
with it a spell coming out that's
going to do 5 million damage.
Can you chop him?
One heal on the shaman.
Thank you.
You don't even have to really angle yourself here.
It gets you right up to the platform.
You don't have to think about it at all.
You're being told when to go into the portal,
so just go into it.
There's literally, we go on screen.
Revis, go in in seven, six, five, four, three, two, one.
Then go right.
It tells you what to do.
Run out to spell, follow the instructions.
Imagine this being the case in the hard game in vanilla.
Yeah, you have to manage your one button in vanilla as well.
There's so much to do.
Focus your ad, hopeful.
Focus your ad.
How many times do you have to tell you?
Because you have to get your kick.
At least Kenix can manage to get in the portal
when he's boffed and immune to the rest.
Imagine a boom...
Don't even have to deal with the mechanic
because you're just mitigating it.
How can you fail this as a druid?
You have most mobility.
Just go into cat form once in a while,
use your shape-shifting.
Even the bridge is being built for you.
Can they spoon feed you with anymore?
Imagine if this was actually difficult
and you had to get knocked between every platform,
but Blizzard watering the raid down
to cater to subpar washed raiders.
It's disgusting.
Here we are on the last platform, which if this was difficult, we'd be like 3rd of 10.
Yeah, imagine struggling with just 3 phases.
Can we count to 3?
No, apparently not.
Going to the last phase again, finally, trying to do a little bit of damage here.
The boss is 63% because our damage is pathetic!
More damage out on the boss please, the boss isn't even doing anything at this point.
It's AFK, you have 20 seconds!
Oh, it's such a hard game.
We have to dodge things all the time, meanwhile nothing is happening and you're literally AFK.
They say it's a hard boss fight, we're standing around for 20 seconds!
Yeah, exactly! See, still nothing happening!
Because it's so easy just moving the boss over to the edge to spawn these spiderlings, which is a great pad opportunity.
Oh, war is due so much damage, it's so hard to push Bladestorm.
Now we have to do extra damage, oh my!
Oh no, my wall is too small for my 50s and my diamond shoes are too tight!
Oh no, I must spin! I'm still low to damage! Oh I'm just casually doing 1.5, 2 million damage!
Here come three adds and for some reason we have to actually stop hitting the boss long enough to DPS add which makes every single raider bitter and angry because it can't be bothered to walk three steps to do damage to an add!
They are blasting though! Okay no, we can't stop, we are giving them good luck!
Horrible they're doing so badly the boss is only at 50% heading into this frothing gluttony
I wonder if they'll manage to pick up the three souls that they have to manage Robin mirrors and rice and and maybe not die this time
Robin stop feeding for once
Yeah, they don't even have to play this mechanic because you can just blink over it
You can just dash over it as a demon hunter. What is there even?
Orson she gets hit by a blade. He's so washed. I hate him
Oh
Bait bait Robin dies again see it coming a mile away. He gets the infest spiders coming out
Binding shot landed at least a hunter knows how to play the hardest class in the game
Nihilating the next no, they're not that was pathetic and here comes the shackles. Oh, they do so much damage
Just walk away man. It's proximity damage thoughts. You can't even manage that no battle reds available
We're three healing threats to the fight which these incompetent healers will never manage to do
Yeah, these have been nerfed as well
It's been nerfed! That's such a good point! Those have been nerfed, but they're trying to feed these players the killer that can't even manage dying to a nerfed ability. Pathetic.
Now we have seven souls. Oh no. Oh no. Less than half of our raid has to play correctly and pick these souls up. Can't manage that. We're going to die instead.
Banner jumping off the edge rather than pick up a soul like a proper raider should.
I
Refused to do the mechanic
They will need to make sure that the soul is picked up
Look at them bleeding out unable to recover from a simple setback. I'm sorry. Do you have two dead healers use a health potion for once?
No, I popped it on pulse at the log show that I'm using it
I'm a good freighter. That was
a fantastic pull. I feel like
the angry casting definitely
sent them to one of their most
productive pools in a little
while. So yeah, pat on the back,
Jesse. This is exactly what we
want to see from echo. They
are getting very, very good
progression here back to back
almost with some phase one
shenanigans, but getting into
the start of our day is
extremely positive. Starting
the day off on a very, very
good foot. It is wonderful to
see them getting back into
phase three practicing. It is
so much cleaner in comparison to
when we saw face three
yesterday, largely figuring
out where they are placing
the various mechanics. The
baiting the puddles placing
the shackles, which adds
the having to, uh, nuke
another fantastic pull from Echo there.
Could not disagree more with your ridiculous whitewashing of the situation.
They get into phase three again, congrats.
It's not like you pulled the boss 256 times and failed to do it.
Most of those efforts, then they get to the same point where they drop the shackles
next to the ads and die there every single time.
Why did you hire Potter if he's not going to put a defensive there?
Why are you dying there for the fourth time in a row?
And again, we get those three shackles failing to get with him away.
Not stacked up. How's Revan supposed to do any damage when you're not placing the adds together for cleat?
It's pathetic, and I'm sick of it. I'm leaving
More than a cent in ten dollars. Oh, thank you very much saying this is my first year watching Griswold first
But I'm really enjoying it. Did you enjoy the Anki first thing? Amazing work by all the team so far
Thank you to the casters for the great commentary. That was great
All right, they can send in intelligent ten dollars
Next experiment. How does it affect the polls instead of casting just use reading poetry or excerpts from a romance novel?
We're not gonna find out
Well, you know when the first Venom bombs go out that's can be their first date as a group and then
Getting knocked up together. Okay
Okay, maybe no romance novels. No stop. Please what the hell?
I've never watched golf
Crapsie, the previous guy who had sent in $10 saying
I'm falling asleep because of an ASMR
sent another $10 to say
I'm awake!
I'm awake now!
Wokage!
Thanks, casters!
Alright, I hope you guys enjoyed that.
We are trying a variety of styles to see
which one is going to give them the energy.
Alright, so next one we decided we were doing on the floor.
Yeah.
energy all right so next one we'd say we were doing on the floor yeah really I
thought we did a great job last fall they had a great fall so that means that
we just have to continue being angry for the rest of our shift it's exhausting
being angry it's actually so hard I feel sad I feel bad
That's literally the best players in the world playing out of their minds.
No! Trash!
Production's like, thank you.
We've been feeling this for the last three days, watching him troll.
I just want to go home to my family.
Some reloads coming in fixing the week, Korra.
Yeah.
And back to the ASMR.
No, I think I want to yell some more. That was actually kind of fun.
Yeah, a good thing this whole building is soundproof, otherwise Potter, who is sitting just the other side of it, would have hurt you.
I think maybe he did anyway.
Yesterday I was talking to Potter and I was like, why don't you just tell him to stop sucking?
And he's like, I would never say that, Jesse. I thought you knew me better than that. And I was like, oh, it was just me treated that way.
Just a little joke. Potter and I, when I joined, we were healing together in
in Ashara's Palace. That was the last year. The second last year he healed. He healed the
Ashara's Palace with me both on Paladin's, Pali Bro's, and then again in Nyalotha. Nyalotha
was his last time he actually healed him in the game because Nyalotha chased him and
Scribe and Roger out of the game and into the external team in order to up Echo's game.
So how long was Potha playing before the Analyze stepping into the game?
A long time.
I think he's one of the long standing players.
So this team, the core of the team with like Skype and Potter were playing together as far
back as the team actually being known as I believe it was Rapid Eye Movement, the largely
German guild that then stepped in and formed the Method Core when the future part broke
off way back in Wad and Legion.
And then they started playing with Roger, brought them some new players and then
again Echo then split off and formed their own guild.
So Potter's been with the team for a very, very long time.
I think that he went to scrap's wedding and everything like the actual IRL friends been playing together for years
Yeah, it's very nice the history of how long they've been playing together
We've got members of the team like Roger perfecto who have racked up. I think about 17 world firsts
That is an incredible amount. They are I think the they hold the most world firsts of any player in the game
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's 17. Yeah, it's ridiculous
And you can think about how young they were and how old they are now.
A lot of our performance makes sense now.
Ah, hold on a minute.
It's so impressive to have 17 World Firsts.
How many years did it take to accrue those?
Of course, it's even worse for chat, right?
How many of you were playing in WOD a decade ago?
Oh, despair.
It's been 10 years since Hellfire, Citadel.
We're going to summon Alex again.
Don't do it. When did you start? Was it the engine?
I played properly in Legion, technically made my character in wards.
Was it a mage?
Yes. But I didn't, I leveled, not really, I boosted my character, maybe leveled one level
and then didn't come back until the very end in Hellfire Citadel. Then leveled it to
max.
Did you play in Hellfire Citadel?
Then didn't play. A little bit, yeah.
A little bit? Okay.
At the very, very end of the tier.
What boss did you play?
So I did a little bit of mythic
Where did we get to it was before gore fiend? I think we killed the first
Four so it was hellfire assault
Iron Reaver and then there was the boss that was in the in the pool
Yeah, and you have to there was a swirlies that went out across the whole platform
And you had to quickly assign every single person
Yeah, just soak a different swirly and you have this elaborate like mapped out week or a thing back when you can use
In-game representations of the physical space. Yeah, that was yeah
Which is good. Yeah, and it's funny because like at that time I
It's so foggy because I almost felt like a little budding
Ever bow players just not really aware of what's going on
and stuff like that and then when it got to Legion that's when I started to pay a lot more
attention and Nighthold was my first proper raid tier that's when I then started playing
properly and then on that and then I was hooked at playing every single day.
Every single day?
Every single day.
Actually.
Yeah.
Actually every single day.
I played every single day of Shadowlands.
I didn't miss a single day.
Every single day of Shadowlands.
Um, I understand so much more about you now.
Yeah.
I didn't play every single day of Dragonfly.
I still, clearly heroic, I still did relatively high keys, not title keys but relatively high.
Um, but I wasn't playing every single day.
I took a little bit more of a back burner and I was playing other things, which is
very healthy, right?
Yeah, of course.
It allows you to appreciate and not burn out and not get too sick of one thing.
Um, but I did really enjoy playing, you know, every day.
And I've been really enjoying the world within but I definitely have a much healthier relationship with the game now
And I feel like it makes me appreciate things a lot more and also enjoy my time rather than being miserable
Well, I also think what I caused myself to do in the end. I also think that they've
Dramatically improved the game some shadow ends. I mean, I think dragonflight was a much superior version of Worldcraft over shadow
I mean, but I think that war within is even better
They've really turned it around I think because I also played everything I was gonna say so you oh, did you I mean
I mean, yeah, it was the race world first time, so...
Oh, of course, yeah, because you... the Jailer was your last test.
You would have played the entirety of Shadowlands.
How was that, from a race to world first perspective,
when the game already felt a little bit...
What, just...
It was still cute, though.
It was the worst of times.
It was so bad.
I had to do TorGast every day,
and you couldn't even mount up in the mall!
I don't know why, they said they wanted to be heled,
but I thought it was a video game.
to actually suffer every single time. I picked my mountain vine and it said,
your morn does not respond to your morn. I had to walk. It was so bad.
And then they had this whole stupid system of soul vines that you had to swap
between and farm reputation conduits in.
And it was so terrible.
And every, every, every faction had a different power.
And some of them were fun, but some of them were more optimal.
And you had to play what was optimal regardless of what was fun.
And the ripcord guy did the ripcord man that just pulled over the ripcord.
One out of four guys, it was so bad.
I was so stuck in two guys for 12 hours a day so I could have every single soulmind
backed out for the jailer progression and then of course, splits.
Splits, splits, splits, splits, splits, and more splits.
I couldn't take it, it was awful.
That sounds terrible.
My name is Antwin.
This is what Antwin is actually doing in the Shadowlands.
you're in a, and doing this, somebody made a meme that I saw in our first discord where
Grim came on the couch. Oh, just having a good time. When we was interviewing Grim and I was
sitting between you both and somebody thought it'd be a great idea to just put a thought
bubble above my head, which is brave. So there's usually nothing in there and just a black.
So you two were having this back and forth conversation and I was sitting in the middle of you
with the blah blah blah. I didn't think it was that obvious that that was indeed what I was doing.
Yeah, I think it was good. I see blah. I'm blah.
Oh, and I, um, I really enjoyed, um, Mythic Plus in Shedlands though. I did really enjoy the dungeons
and this may be a bit of a curse take, but I was quite happy to see Necrotic Wake and Mist's
back. I know it's not been too long since we did those dungeons and I fully understand why
people may think it's too soon, right? We had the whole entire expansion of Shadowlands with those
dungeons. You don't have that regular dungeon pool update as we have now. Since Dragonflight,
every Mythic Plus season, you have half of the current expansion's dungeons and half of previous
dungeons. So you didn't have that in Shadowlands or any of the previous expansions. So the Mythic
Plus pool was strictly the dungeons of that expansion every single season throughout the
the entirety of the expansion. But I did really enjoy them. So I was I was quite pleased to
play them again. But yeah, I know that some people may think, No, we already played these.
Give us some other ones.
It has been interesting seeing how they've kind of adapted those dungeons for the current
season and expansion. Obviously, a lot of the Shadowlands dungeons had covenant specific
stuff that they've turned into like race or class specific stuff. For example, in
subterranean side I think you know druids can or herbalists can open the vines to get you the mushroom
buff or take the shortcut or click on the reds mushroom and things like that I like the fact
that we are purging covenants from the game I so I liked the concept of covenants stop before
no no before they put player power to it yeah if it was purely an rp choice where you could
could align yourself with a certain aesthetic
that your character or yourself wanted.
Strictly from an RP perspective,
I thought it was an interesting concept.
You have your own kind of,
I've really enjoyed class halls in Legion.
So having covenant halls where you can align yourself
with whichever one you wanted to.
I thought it was a very cool concept,
but then they tied player power to it
and it wasn't a choice, because you then would pick.
One was the best one.
One was the best one and it was very important.
And then one was the best one in one situation and another was the best one in the other situation and you couldn't have changed.
So Mage was also very much suffered because at the start I think all three specs wanted a completely different covenant.
And as the expansion went on that was also the case and then depending on whether you wanted to do Mythic Plus or Raiding you also needed a different covenant.
So not only were you locked into a spec you also locked into an area of the game so it was extremely restrictive.
somebody who enjoys both mythic rating and mythic plus. It was very frustrating.
It was, yeah. A lot of players did quit during or after Shadowlands, but that,
we've had a player resurgence coming out of them in the Dragonflight into war
within and it's been great to see the game turn around. I want to read a
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That's the saying, but you know what I mean.
You get more from sugar than you do with salt.
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Welcome back, we had our lunch break provided by the wonderful Julia who has joined us on the couch
who has been making all of the wonderful food while we've been here.
Hello, hello, welcome.
Thanks for having me.
That's very, very nice to have you.
And I'm also joined by the wonderful Nogura and Jesse.
Hello! Hi! Hi!
That's all I'm going to say.
That's all I'm going to say. I've been trying to get Julie to come on the couch since day one.
And I first said, hey, maybe you want to come up and say hi to the people who would love to see some of the amazing work being done
kind of behind the scenes to support the production.
And this morning I went down and hassled her. I said, are you busy?
And she said, why?
I need more context, please.
It's always when people ask you, like, do you have time at death and death day?
and I was like, tell me what it is first.
No, it's not first.
I'm telling you the flavor I need.
No.
That's it.
Yeah.
Today we had fish tacos and a berry crumble,
which I did not eat downstairs.
So I can enjoy the chat.
You can enjoy vicariously.
I ate it already.
It was very delicious.
I've heard from everyone.
You had some ice cream as well.
Thank you.
I skipped the ice cream.
Oh, you skipped it.
I did.
Yeah.
I wanted to be a crumble though.
But you made yourself.
Yes.
Is it oats on top?
Yeah I like putting oats in the crumble. It's a little bit more filling, a little bit healthier.
Yeah definitely. The average could be eating and no one can talk anymore.
Because I ate a berry crumble earlier and I was like because it looks heavy but when you eat it
it's not like too sugary which is something that I like because I like having dessert a lot.
And if I would make the dessert very sugary and very like then you know.
You've been making a dessert for the guys pretty much every day, I think, right?
Yeah, that's part of the deal that we offer, yeah.
How long have you been working here in the facility?
That's a complicated story.
We love complicated stories.
So I first came to SK in 2021.
I was contracted to them by another company,
and then I left them at the end of 2022,
and I came back six weeks ago.
So half of the time that you've been back has been helping us.
Without a day off.
I haven't fully settled in.
How long will you continue after this project?
Has this turned you off of it entirely?
No, not at all. I love these events. They're always good fun.
I like gaming as well. This is not my style of gaming, but I like comfort games.
I like don't stuff together. I play with my friend a lot.
Oh, I played that game.
That is a good game.
Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah, no, I'm happy to be here. It is hard work, but I do love it. So
you've been doing it ever since I think I guess production showed up three weeks ago
almost or fully nearly a month. Yeah. Every day. Yeah. Every day, you know, providing the
wonderful breakfast lunch dinner, but also you've been doing snacks for the team as well.
Yeah, which has been wonderful. And you got inspiration from the Wow cookbook.
Yeah. So the fish tacos today were from the Wow cookbook, but I did my own little
spin on it because they use deep-fried fish and I'm not doing that.
Deep-fried fish for 30 people is a lot of oil.
Yeah, and I don't have a deep-fried big enough so even if I could, I couldn't.
I also don't know how deep-fried food would be before nine hours of progress.
How much thought do you put into what you're deciding to prepare for the day
in terms of like, you know, make sure that energy and nutrition and everything is good?
Well, I have always been interested in nutrition and now I am studying it at university, so
that'll, yeah, I get to use my knowledge there and try and apply it, but then I still try
to do something fun and try to appeal to picky eaters as well, so that's always a good
challenge.
And then there's other dietries and things like that that come into it.
I don't think I spend that much time planning it.
I try to make sure I have all the ingredients so I can be a little spontaneous as well if
things do go wrong.
I have some backup plans and yeah, so it's a lot of creativity and a lot of trying to
figure out logistics as I keep saying.
Yeah.
Yeah, because none of the meals you prepare, like you repeat, like I think we've got
different things all of the time, at least since I'm here.
Yeah.
I was impressed by that because I can barely cook different meals for myself like seven
times a week.
Yeah.
It is hard.
Yeah.
Especially if you want to hit certain like macros and nutrients and have like meat all of those goals, right?
Yeah, I don't focus too much on that. I think at the end of the day all food is nutritious
Yeah, so yeah, and you can also have fun
You can eat donuts and still be considered healthy like yeah, so you talked a little bit about those logistics
How much is happening behind the scenes to put it together a whole table full of plates of food for 30 people three times a day
Oh, it's tricky sometimes. Sometimes like I'll order 10 packages or something and maybe only get 6.
Oh!
So then I have to figure out how to stretch it. But then I always try to make sure that there's like
10 beans or something like that that I can just last minute add in and it weren't just
wrapped but then some people don't like beans so.
Sweet on a bit!
No!
Well I know you're also cooking for a couple of vegetarians and I think maybe someone in
the first couple of days said no spicy food and things like that.
Oh yeah, I can't really do too much chilli, I have great allergy in my skin so if I
do it usually comes in the form of curry paste or something like that because I can't touch
it.
But yeah, I don't know, sometimes yeah.
Well, alongside the meals that you've been prepping and the snacks you've also
been making lovely ginger shots every day with a variety of ingredients and
beautiful smoothies you've been making every day yeah and I remember I spoke to
you the day of oh what's in what's in this ginger shot he was like I'm gonna
make it a little bit more spicy and I felt validated because I've been saying
the ginger shots are spicy and everyone keeps laughing at me like everyone's
laughing at me every day. Sorry. It's spicy. It's not spicy.
Have you ever had a ginger tea where you put like fresh ginger in the tea and then you just leave it in there for a while?
Spicy.
But I do...
You should try it. I can give you just straight up ginger juice if you really want.
Is that good for me?
I don't know if it's good for you, but...
I think it'd be spicy.
I've cooked with ginger, right?
Like I did a roast pork that was like rubbed all over with a ginger paste.
I mean, I know ginger is good and it adds a certain pungency,
but I would never just think of ginger shot as spicy.
Spicy is like burning your tongue, not just the edge on the taste, if that makes sense.
It's not spicy like chili.
Exactly. It's edgy, but not spicy.
It's like wasabi, yeah.
Yeah. It's all spicy.
You think water is spicy?
Yeah, sparkling water is spicy.
No, it's not.
Especially when you're not expecting it.
Sparkling water ginger shots.
Oh yeah, let's just put chili in it as well.
You know what else we should put in?
The hot chip.
Hot chip challenge.
ginger, spot people, a challenge.
Flaming hot tears.
Anyways.
Julie, I wanted to ask about, like, the players, because there's obviously a lot of people here
for our event, and we've been here for a long time.
And I guess there's some people who hang out in the kitchen, and I guess you're making friends
at these events and stuff.
What do you think of, like, working with gamers, like, when it comes in regards to food?
Because you told me that some of them are maybe a bit picky, which, you know, happens.
happens. I guess it's also in other areas as well. But that gamers generally tend to be a bit shy
sometimes and they just don't tell you that they don't like a certain thing. What's your experience
with that? Oh, it happens. I just address it and let them know that I'm now aware of the issue and
try to keep open communication with them so that they know what they can and can't eat
or you know what products I'm using if they like it, if they don't like it.
Um, yeah, I just try and be as honest as I can, where I can, yeah.
Yeah, because I can see how it's difficult when somebody, like, let's say they don't like, um, corn.
And you make somebody with corn, and instead of telling you, oh, actually don't like corn,
they just like, try to be like, secretly like, throw it on the floor or whatever.
Wait, is that why there's corn on the floor?
Oh no.
That's not like in corn.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Yeah, I think sometimes people don't love onion as much as I do. I have to try and remember that one
But I think onions are perfect for everything. I know some of the players sometimes complain about mushroom too
Every now and then. I'm not the biggest fan of mushroom, but I will eat it. Yeah, I think mushroom tastes really good
I feel like most people's objection to mushroom is the texture. It's a texture. I don't like the texture of mushroom
Have you run into that? So many times
We've had to do a hard ban on mushroom risotto. Oh, I love mushroom. Yeah, same. It tastes so good
But then they get mad at the little slivers of mushroom. They have textureally unpleasant
to them I guess. I've actually been exposed to new foods since I was here. There was the
Kohlrabi vegetable, which was really nice. I'd never had that before.
Oh, I hadn't had that before.
I thought they were cherry tomatoes at first.
Oh, the fizzalis.
Yeah, I'd never had that before. Those were really nice. They put them on the cheese
tray, right?
Yeah. I've only ever seen them on cocktails.
We were discussing this at lunch the other day.
It is mostly just decoration because so many people don't like it.
Really?
It is edible.
You can eat it.
I like it.
But yeah, most people hate it and then you get kind of side-eye if you're eating it.
I've been chowing down on them.
You actually got extra because I like it so much.
Now I hear, oh, they are edible.
Wow.
I mean, technically, they're really sour.
I love them.
They were the best part of the cheese platter.
Yeah, actually true. And the grapes.
Yeah, the grapes were great. The fasalis was good.
The bread.
There was also cheese.
Yeah.
Alright, well we really appreciate your time.
It's been wonderful having you here taking care of everyone in the facility.
It's also been such a wonderful time to introduce you to the viewers who have been curious about the amazing dishes they've seen posted on mirrors
Twitter every single day that you've been preparing. How happy will you be when
we're gone? And you can actually have a break. I'm looking forward to a day in bed with Netflix.
I don't blame you. That should be nice. Can we get a round of applause and hearts
from everyone in chat for Julia, our amazing chef here in the facility, and
we'll throw it over to Alyson in with Wave so she can get back to work making dinner.
How I'm not in your chain!
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Thank you!
Thank you all for listening with Wave!
I'm gonna start a lot more dangerous.
On the floor they look the same.
What?
I'm gonna have to just stay a bit older. I feel like they look the same.
I'm not in your skating.
Rules after that.
Blades coming as well soon.
It was bad as well.
Yeah, I don't even know when.
I had the farboard on like okay, this thing feels right like but I was like lost in the room
Turns out scratch should be calling that
Turns out raid leading is helpful because other people if you don't people fall over dead
That was a great pull Julie came on the couch and blessed that pole gotten to phase three
blessing
No, but Jude is so nice, I love her.
She is so nice, she's very funny too.
Yeah, so nice to get some insight.
I like it, she has like, I'm not sure if you guys like notice,
but she has like a very dry humor.
I love that about her.
She's great.
She's really funny.
And she's from Australia, so never holding back.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah, so that was fun.
I enjoyed having her come, come, come,
blblblblblblbl, words.
That one.
Yeah, that was great, the way that she did the thing
on the couch with the talking and the stuff.
I enjoyed that part too about it.
We've had a pretty good morning here at Echo.
We've been working on Queen Ansewak all morning, getting into Phase 3 relatively consistently
running into new strategic issues such as placing those shackles next to the Acolytes
in order to be cleaved down together.
That causes a lot of rate damage.
They need to live through that.
We want to see a pull where they fix that problem because the big wall of the
fight after that third round of Acolytes is dealing with the double frothing wave
coming in back to back with about a minute apart and both times needing to transport 12 souls
and running out of people who can bear those souls without dying to them.
Yeah, definitely very difficult and there's just so many overlaps happening, so many things
simultaneously. I mean, I just look stressful even just watching it. All of these daggers coming
through all of these assignments as well. It's funny because I listened to them earlier this
morning and they had like a formation on how they're supposed to put down the
website the tethers and scribe just called blue pillar that's the formation
that they have to go it's like and then they all went to the blue marker and
stacked up yeah and then afterwards scribe was like alright so what do you
guys want me to call so you understand this like formation I know what they
just call, take the gateway, just put a gateway to this place, you want those three and take
it. I don't know why that's not happening. I'm sure I'm missing something.
I think they actually changed it afterwards. I think Roger Brown said that we should take
the gateway, some people agreed and people didn't and then they had this whole discussion.
But yeah, it was funny that afterwards, the subscriber was like, he was like understanding
immediately. He was like, okay, so what do you want me to call? And then afterwards,
he's like, I'm going to be honest with you, from an outside point of view, this
looks very easy and I don't know why. Why you're not getting this.
It's true. I mean, I know it's great misses the days when he used to actually play and be one of the better players on the team
Misses that opportunity to show off his gamesmanship, but it is funny to sit on the outside and be twitch-shattered. I'm sorry
Have you tried not getting hit by the blades? Oh
Okay guys, so we have proc rogers treasure trove with a four million
Channel point goal, which means we're gonna draw two prizes for two winners
Wow, so I can draw both.
If you'd like to? Yeah?
I'm thinking about it.
Okay, I don't mind.
Actually now I want this to be a competition, and whoever draws the better for Ice Wings.
You're so competitive! I've learned this about you recently.
You're so competitive you want to win everything.
He didn't know I'm competitive.
I was already so first player.
So was I, but I'm pretty chill.
That's true, right?
Actually, yeah.
But I was a healer.
Mostly.
Yeah, I guess healers aren't as competitive.
Yeah, they're just there to get carried by the rest of the team, they're not doing anything important anyway, if they mattered, they'd be playing DPS, with four different damage meters on, showing the different points of interest, all of the different ads they're topping on at the same time.
I love that. I had like three different details windows open, I had three different details windows open, and none of them were healing them.
Of course.
And my chat is like, can you put healing that out? And I'm like, no, it doesn't matter.
It really does, in a plus.
Correct.
I mean, it's completely irrelevant.
I mean, it can sometimes.
But then I have to have this whole conversation,
so at some point I just gave in
and I'm showing Healing Leader now,
for no reason.
No, it's for the two healers who watch your chat.
Sometimes it's interesting, right?
If you're doing really high-key pushes
and you want to know how much HPS is required
to heal a plus 26 Prideful,
then HPS is nice to see like a big number, basically.
I mean, people get happy brain chemicals
from big numbers, that's true.
I turn off I don't so I play with out meters and with the numbers turned off. Yeah, but you're weird
You're not competitive weirdly you're weird not showing numbers all right all right
Can you feel it in the channel points?
The only thing you can use channel points for is Roger's treasure trove when you reach four million
We're gonna draw two prizes whoever draws the superior prize is the winner
The other one is an unmitigated loser not even worthy of being on the couch can go floor pop and cast from the floor in angry voice
Yes, and who determines which ever price is better. I guess chat we have to pull yeah, which prize was better left or right
Although I like it
What if they're just choosing the favorite caster and they want the other one to be on the floor?
And I lose just to give you so much more popular than I am I feel punished already. I mean, then you're still though
Can we do push-ups again? I got to win that.
From that day onwards, I was just doing push-ups every day.
All the things I do in the gym is like, I'm going to beat him next time.
In one year's time, we come to the next race for the first care.
It's like, I don't know, we could do our push-up contest again.
If he wants, he could be else.
Meanwhile, she's been training every single day for that moment.
Doing push-ups with her boyfriend, standing on her back.
He could sit on my back if he wants.
We're going to do the push-up contest. I'm going to get down to 20, then you can start
doing one-handers.
Handstand push-ups?
You're so good at this. I love it.
We did get a donation while we're sending in the Treasure Trove points. Keep those
points coming in. You can't use the channel points for anything else, so send them in
right now. We're also still collecting money for gains for love. We got a donation
relevant to Jordan and I's conversation earlier when we were talking about covenants.
I want your opinion on this comment.
Yeah.
Jeth should read this, sent him $5, saying,
covenants were the best thing ever added to wow.
Your thoughts, Megara.
That opinion is objectively wrong.
Correct.
Based on true.
That opinion is foundationally wrong, right?
It's not even wrong, right?
It's like outside the realm of possible, you know?
It's just wrong.
Yeah.
It is in every single way objectively incorrect.
Even if covenants were...
If you could choose them freely from the start, I still wouldn't have liked them.
Why not?
I just think it was too convoluted.
It was way too complicated to figure out what you want to play.
Sometimes I feel like they do this on purpose to make sure that there is no strict thing of what you want to do.
But still, I feel like Blizzard sometimes
doesn't understand that people just
want to play the best thing.
And sometimes that being easy is not a problem.
Because people don't have the time
to try different things around.
A lot of people just want to log on,
get the certain talent set up, and play the game.
And have the best chance of success
without having to math out four different covenants,
each with three different soul binds,
with a multitude of different power trades,
and Nexus nodes that increase your power
in certain ways that are hard to quantify
with the addition of legendaries.
I agree, right?
You wanna be able to say, okay,
what's best for this specific circumstance?
And of course, it's good to have interesting choices
and things that are different to different circumstances,
but I wanna play what's best in Mythic Plus right now
without thinking about it
or running a complex simulation model
across all of these different options.
Yeah.
I agree with that.
And people do research, right?
And then if they, that's why usually people go for
these tier lists and for this,
like, wishy-washy kind of guides that they find on these websites because they tell them
what to do because they're real guides, they can't tell you what to do.
And that's problematic, right?
Because people, they don't want to do research for five hours before they can play the game.
So that's why I didn't like the Covenants.
Even though thematically, I think, like, obviously I personally don't, I'm not sure
why I said obviously, but I personally don't care that much about like things being
like thematic and so I'm not a lower person so I'm also not like a class
identity kind of person like I don't want all the class to be the same. That's weird coming from the most famous
boomkin on the planet. Yeah that's me. It's true. I think that is
unironically true. I mean you played you played book in so long and it's
such a high level you know prominently in raids and in mutt mythic
plus and everywhere else I think it's interesting to hear you say that you
you don't really identify as a class.
Yeah, I think I mainly just played Druid
because I really hate playing Alts.
I get that.
And I hate keeping up my Alts.
Even at the start of a patch, I can level them,
but then they will inevitably fall behind.
And then I don't wanna switch them anymore.
Even if another class is better, I do reroll sometimes.
I played Warlock, for example,
when it was really strong in Shadowlands.
But it happens so rarely just because I don't have Alts
ready and they don't wanna gear them up.
So I just stick to the class that I play as long as it's not absolutely horrible, which rarely happens.
Like, let's be honest here, almost always, specs are viable.
Yeah, for the vast majority of content.
Maybe in the truly edge case of the, you know, top three guilds clearing a raid,
or the, you know, top absolute level of Keystone being pushed.
Maybe a spec won't be as viable, but outside of that, you typically can.
Unfortunately, having a little bit of a problem in this phase one,
So we can keep podcasting because we lost the healer got the battle is back and Jinji's down
So we're going to die soon and make sure you're
Using your channel points. We still have Roger's trash or trove that has to be unlocked
We're making this competition about who draws the best prize. Yeah, who's drawing from which prize pool?
We need to do some complex simulation craft in order to find out which of these is likely to
Or we just pick whatever team we're because your team spider and I'm just better as well
Also, maybe we just both take Team Spider.
We should rock, paper, scissors over Team Spider,
so we can have another competition
and see who wins and loses.
Let's do it.
Okay, we're gonna do it on three.
Okay.
What are you doing with the...
One, two, three will be how we do it, yeah?
Okay, ready?
One, two, three.
Okay, I'm the loser.
And you're Team Spider.
All right.
Wait, should I hold it while you draw out of it?
Yes.
Okay, so you hold the crabs.
Yes.
Because they're gonna reach it soon.
We're at three and a half million.
We need half a million more channel points.
We're needing the channel points.
This is what it's for.
We have so much loot in here
from all of the amazing sponsors you have.
Corsair, headsets, keyboards, the amazing mice
that they have as well.
The merchandise from our merch store,
XClam merch, this place, NordVPN codes,
pets, mounts, Elgato stuff,
a mythic boost being offered by Roger.
You have a job at one end, yeah?
Yeah, it's still in here somewhere.
And of course, the life-sized Roger body pillow
that you see there as well.
That's available for one lucky winner
somewhere in these envelopes.
Is this a joke?
No.
Are you hoping to go with that one?
So funny.
I would love a life-sized Roger and Bonnie Big Bob.
How much would you love it?
Definitely be in my office in the background on stream.
That would be amazing stream prop.
Yeah, just having Roger in the Dwarven outfit, building with Bran as a life-size.
A cutout would be better.
A what?
A cutout.
A cutout.
Okay.
Alright, so we have finished delving into Roger's treasure trove.
We're drawing two prizes, one from each pool.
We don't need to do any...
Oh, we do?
We are going to do the poll.
Wow.
But then we're going to...
What's the poll going to say?
So we're only drawing from either spider or crab, two different prizes.
We're not drawing both the spider and the crab.
Production has vetoed.
Wow.
Okay.
the votes coming in make sure you're voting and not writing anything in chat
to participate here because there's a poll going on it's always it's always
seems better I agree we do agree on some things we agree on a lot of things
actually we agree on a lot of stuff we were talking about Greek yogurt earlier
oh yeah Greek yogurt is first of all it's a very nutritious has lots of
protein very healthy very low fat and the only problem I have a Greek yogurt
very thick. Yeah it's a bland and overly thick and needs to be thinned out a little bit and taste better.
Yeah. Yeah so we discovered that both Jesse and I are eating our Greek yogurt the same way. We take
frozen berries. We take mixed berries or like a particular kind. So I have a freezer full of frozen
fruit. Typically bags of frozen berries so it'll be raspberries, blueberries and blackberries
almost together. Yeah. And then I'll have another bag of like mixed tropical fruit with mango,
peaches, pineapple, and banana. I should try this. And then I thaw it in the microwave,
which makes the fruit, you know, kind of warm and no longer crunchy. And it also usually
puts a lot of juice in the bowl. And I mix that into the Greek yogurt, which makes it taste a
lot better and thins it out. That's the same thing. Isn't that wild? I've never run into
anyone that does it. It is the bisway to eat yogurt. It's so good. I absolutely love it.
Because I do like flavored yogurts, because you can buy this store, you can just buy like
berry yogurt.
But why buy the berry yogurt?
Because first of all, there's lots of sugar in it.
They add so much sugar when they add the berries.
And then it's also typically more expensive than just buying frozen berries, which are
pretty affordable.
Very cheap.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You are so basin smart, it's actually wild.
So are you, sir.
Obviously, because we agree, I'm such a clearly foundationally true proposition.
All right.
All right, so nobody's surprised. Spiders win. So what we're gonna do is you draw one and then I'll draw the next because you won the
Rockscape of the year. And then whoever gets the best prize is not the loser on the floor
I'm gonna go with
This one. Okay
That one was a terrible choice. I can't believe you chose that one
All right Chad, don't worry. I got you. I got you. There are no really terrible prizes here. I think I think I lost
What did you do that? Did you fake it?
I saw it.
Are you seeing yours?
Yeah, I know what it is.
Are you winning?
It's a good prize.
Okay.
Yeah.
You know, in a way, we have to be careful here.
Okay.
Because there's a way that you could come through as competing as to who has the worst prize
that's potentially flaming a sponsor.
Oh, that one was shit!
I can't believe you drew that horrible prize from not a sponsor.
We have.
That's for sure.
Okay.
Okay, I've always...
Okay, which one are we doing first?
Well, let's hold them until after this pull.
Hold them until after this pull, and then we'll do a full screen and show them to chat.
That's even looking.
Although, we did already look at the light and see what it was.
This is actually a good pull.
This is another good pull.