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Echo Race to World First Advanced by AMD : Midnight Season 1 | Day 16 | !amd
04-02-2026 · 10h 38m
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I can't go my hands like a touchdown I can't go my hands like a touchdown
I'm gonna step like I'm slushed out I get to my hands like I'm slushed out
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I can do my dance like a drunk girl
I can do my dance like a drunk girl
I can do my job. I can
touch down another another
almost egg two for echo back
to back. They're getting there
this time. Welcome back to the
race. Well first advanced by
a M. B. My name is preach. I'm
joined by the wonderful medic
and J. B. As echo are pushing
further and further and further
into this space, and they're not
yulking around. No, they really
aren't like that first phase is
getting over easy these days.
We should be in for a good old. It's a bit of a scramble there in phase two you have to find well
Of course, they've been poaching players left and right now and that's that's working out well for them all performing
admirably in this situation you agree JP I
Think his blood's been boiled
Fried baby
Yeah, could be any of those things but really impressive performance for echo as the time
Yes, we've got them all here. They're all doing well and they're looking to find 19% egg damage. Although
We did find out
And we'll see how this plays out. They are using a lot of DPS cool bands and also reach egg 2 which plays into JV's theory
So we might have to see them try and play a fourth convergence
Which is
What is potentially the only avenue to success? Yeah, I did suggest my egg 3 plan
And apparently it's just too much.
She's like the Scripes eating his dinner now.
Yeah.
I didn't have time earlier while they was doing stuff.
The rest of the players are having chocky bars and things
and chatting and Scripes and chicken.
Just like, get it in, get it in.
Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go.
And back to your seats.
You've got five minutes, Scripe.
And you can have no longer than the players,
despite the fact that you get less and less.
But they're working it out, they're figuring out.
And now they've tested it.
They've seen the egg.
They've managed to get there all alive
and managed to see what they could do, which
was take it from 45, 47-ish to 20 on 19.6, which is not zero.
So they've got these-
Damage, good maths.
Yeah, now they're figuring out, okay, we need to find this damage.
Where is it?
And nobody finds damage better than Echo.
They could find it anywhere.
They'll find it somewhere.
Now whether that means they're going to play out a fourth convergence, which means stay
calm.
But one thing we have seen, certainly over the last hour and a half in Phase 2 is I'm
looking pretty comfy.
We had two minutes of optimism.
Two minutes of chillin' in place too.
They wiped, but it looked controlled.
It looked solid.
What do you see happening?
In the same way that an airplane whose engines has gone out, just glides.
The sins, very peacefully, you know.
That's better than what we started early today.
And then there's this tricky part where the ground shows up.
You if sully can land on the Hudson we can land a kill on bellowin. That's right. That's right and so
Yeah, can they bring this one in upside down on a river maybe
but
not every pilot sully and
I'm I'm just you know, I like I said is this boss killable. I think so
Is it killable within the time frame where it doesn't get nerfed first? I
I mean, especially as the second egg phase offered, I think, the sort of final clarity
of this boss.
It was the one remaining X factor here that we didn't really have a lot of information
about.
We knew how much damage needed to be done on the egg in phase two once we've seen Echo
get phase one egg down to just over 40%.
So we've got that kind of 40% number of like, here's roughly what we're trying to work
through in phase two.
And we've seen what Echo can do on an egg without bloodlust on it.
And so I think people were kind of trying to do like quick math of like, well, okay,
we've seen them get it down to like, whatever they had gotten it to like 60% without bloodlust.
And so that's what this phase two egg will be like.
And I mean, like, that's exactly what they need to get it.
So this is very doable.
The reality is that you don't necessarily go into phase two under the same conditions you go into phase one egg with
I mean obviously in many ways very different. You're not gonna have lust you're not gonna have pats
But you may not even have the same cool down
Situation you may have people as we have now been told by raiders that they're having to
Inconveniently send some stuff during the bell or in phase just to get the boss back to the egg phase
So, I don't see this as being super controlled at the moment.
I still see a guild scrabbling to figure out how to make this fight work for them.
And it seems like the further we get into this fight, the more things that can go wrong
keep popping up.
So, Jazz?
Well, like the situation where we're like, okay, well, do we have to deal with a fourth
convergence?
It seems like these, the sort of clean plan that we have
for this boss of like, here's, you know, we do it in two eggs
and we do it after the third convergence
and we'll wind all these cooldowns up and then
as we see that plan start to get distorted, like, okay,
well, it's not actually going to be the third convergence
and we're not actually going to have all the cooldowns
up in the second egg phase.
And so like as that as that plan shifts, it seems more and more difficult to pull off.
And the 20% poll they had was promising, but like in a very high level sense, proof of concept.
But still the kind of pole where I think we could very easily be a hundred poles away from killing this boss.
I can understand that. I think there are a lot of variables and there are a lot of instant kill factors to a good fall.
We already saw two people go down here, Haleini still on the ground because we had to use our res.
I think on Soda I can't remember exactly who it was that brought back up and because of that we're going to have less damage in this phase.
5 seconds on the egg, it's going to be soft 50%, but looking around the 47% mark rather
than anything lower than that. 46.2 is where we come out as we move into phase 2.
Yeah, with a Hunter dead.
Damn.
But again, it's a can 20 players play perfectly for 6 minutes?
That is the question we are asking, because it feels like if you do not play perfectly
for 6 minutes, you have one res at the start of the fight and one after 4 minutes 30.
And those are your only lifelines, and everything is an instinct kill, pretty much, right?
So there are a huge amount of variables that can go wrong, and only one possibility in
which they all go right.
So I understand where JB is coming from.
He's still wrong.
Yeah, I'm Dr. Strangin' it.
I can see Skype holding up that finger later on.
So you think this is going to be a 5 million people?
No, I'm definitely the Opsman's in camp, now they've got numbers, I love it, and there's
our man there, the Viking himself. Mr. Frago has been throwing his info in at the team throughout
here. If you listen to the comms, you'll hear Frago constantly suggesting things of how he's
handling things, but it's always from an Evoca POV, which is next to Eustace. Well, I just hover
over there, and then I just dive over here, and then I just rescue this guy. I'll save you,
and I'll do this, and also buff all your damage in the center. Doing that org work as always,
But we do miss him usually is at the venue. He decided not to come this time and have a nice prick
Where is that is a very finished background? It is yeah a little bit of EDM
Little bit of RGB. Where's the death metal? I actually thought that was just the northern lights in the background
It's solely in your bedroom
In the ice and the snow it's only if we come here it's winter no matter where we are it's freezing
He's walking around like shorts and sandals is like, oh, it's lovely always looks like it's behind a curtain
I think he could be in a class classy
Yeah, and there's just the lights behind the curtain everyone's dancing on the dance floor and faggots like okay guys
When we kill this boss, I'm gonna come out. We'll have a party and then
Or just gag a goo just on a constant loop. Yeah, non-stop keeping that height going
But do miss him before we get into the next pause that we have had some other donations come in across the
Yeah, we are. We are smashing it.
Alex's adventure.
It's an amazing one.
Always incredibly panned out by Alex.
And I hear we're getting crops.
I know.
There's an effort going into this.
So we got a donation from
Facky
$10 for the kids go echo.
That was three hours ago.
That was really nice. Thank you so much.
That's 10 kids we've helped.
Claire with $40 came in and said
Children, love games for love, love the race, keep it up Echo, and bring back the W heart emoji.
They're trying.
They really are.
They're really are.
YINJYINJ.
I'm going to go with that, with $25.
Hello dad.
Preach.
Your long lost son, Takeshi here.
I think I got off at the wrong bus stop.
Please call me back.
Or check my house for a kick in, please.
I do want to be clear on that story is I was petrified. My son was in a sea center and I couldn't get to him, but I was like, stay calm.
I would like to emphasize this was one of the most traumatic events of my life.
It was. I saw my character in my office and I'm like, okay, just why did you get off that bus?
And he said, well, I saw the word that's the same as our town.
I was like, okay son, roads that go to a town have that name on them.
That doesn't mean you're in the town.
It's just telling you that road will take you there and he was in a really rough part of Manchester
It's hard to believe but he was a very very dubious part of Manchester
I was like just stand at the bus stop and another bus will come and I could see one coming
I was like, thank that's great news son now stay on the bus until I tell you to get off
Really quickly before this pull a feathery chunk also donated a door said why is mirrors a chicken raptor? It's a good question
It's a good question.
I actually wish I had an answer for you.
I keep meaning to ask him, but he's been doing this since heroic.
I don't know whether it's just that he likes it.
I think it's just a toy.
Yeah, it's a toy.
I don't know whether it's just because he likes it,
or whether he finds it genuinely useful in some way
to be a raptor.
Maybe he just feels like it.
I will ask him, I promise you.
I'll ask him next time I have the opportunity as to why the raptor.
But he's been doing this since heroic.
They look like the wrong color.
That is an angry bird!
There it is!
GORGETA CALLALE OF YOU!
That's the noise birds make!
Yeah, that bird.
That is Mothra style, you know what I mean?
That is bad.
That bird, when that bird goes red, it is huge.
Frankly, that's a skillet shoe.
An angry bird.
If you've seen those, I think they're shoe bills
with the massive beaks that click.
Like not like a mergel much better than water. Yeah, it's a very very scary sound.
It can be quite scary. You've seen Birdemic. What's Birdemic?
My friend, we have an evening plan. Oh no. We are going to crack it on and you are going to be
mind blown. And then after that we're going to watch the movie. No. Okay. Because you'll be too
traumatized. Okay. Yeah. The horror. Have you seen Birdemic? No. No one has seen Birdemic.
This is the best news I've ever had.
I can't believe there's two people who have never seen Birdemic.
That is wild.
It is an experience.
Okay.
He's in a popular YouTube video that's been seen by 83 people.
Yeah.
Birdemic is very famous.
I'm shocked you haven't seen it.
Birdemic is very famous.
Are you going to tell me you've never seen Suburban Sasquatch?
I've only seen that because you showed it to me two times.
Yeah, you were like, oh, have you ever seen this?
I was like, no, what is this, man?
Horrifying.
Literally no one in the universe.
J-Bean, suburban Sasquatch.
People, look what I'm working with.
It's hard work, man.
It's very, very hard work.
But that is on the agenda.
We'll make that dream come true.
Just start in the post-show.
No, it's not 20.
I think it's about a 13-minute intro of a man driving in a car.
It's unreal.
Sign me out.
Oh, it's hilarious because it goes on so long.
13 minutes is 13 minutes. Yeah, but I can't tell you how much funnier it gets because they cut between so many shots of this guy driving to this music. It's just haunting.
Wait, you find this funny but not Mighty Bush? You're like Mighty Bush, I just don't get the humor and you're just like, oh, it's really funny. This guy's in a car and they keep cutting away from him and then back to him.
It's funny because it's so long. It's incredible. It's funny because it's 13 minutes of my life. I'll never get back.
wherever you watch it you'll be hysteric by minute four.
There's nine more minutes.
It was a minute fours a long time to wait to put it off.
It gets even funny if it looks at you like you can't believe it's happening.
And then somebody did this intentionally.
I thought it was brilliant too. Oh it's so good.
Oh yeah, we're cracking up some bird-diving.
I do not think I'll be here that day when I'm brushing my hair and washing my teeth.
I guarantee you do not regret a moment.
Okay. Not a moment.
I feel like this is a fever dream that you've lived and just assumed
I think some of the channels exactly what I'm talking about and has also enjoyed this experience
It is wonderful, but looking for a clean transition into p1. I guess we can
Obviously we're looking for egg number two, but we still would like to see a new best on egg number one
Which is going to make their lives easier anything they can squeeze out of this bloodlustered egg phase
will be better. 41.5% is Echo's best egg one that we've seen so far. I agree with the 41.5%
number. I do think they've moved some cooldowns away from that position perhaps. So 43.5 I think
would be where we're looking as a new possible progression position. Obviously phase two really
the one that we need to get through cleaning is we do manage to get into the first egg and time to
make an omelette.
Yeah, JB, you know that excited about this.
JB is whisking those eggs.
Yeah, that was a good whisk, actually.
Yeah, a solid whisk.
In they go.
This was a kind of perfect entry into this phase.
Obviously, this is such a shot window that RNG does play
a little bit of a factor here.
Look at that health bar.
Melt with a good seven seconds remaining.
We're going sub 50.
Still three seconds left.
Come on, Echo, lower and lower and lower.
45.
44.8, I believe it's the right hand, right?
That's OK, not the best we've seen, obviously.
A few percentage could be added there, maybe one or two.
As Jinji does go down here during this awkward phase
where all these orbs come colliding in, that was nasty.
There was a lot of late orbs coming in for them.
They need to maybe have tried to clear a few more,
going across the middle.
That's what will dictate how many come ricocheting back in
that phase and try and make it easier on the Raiders.
They're going to continue to play this out.
More P2 experience is what they want.
More and more and more.
Obviously, this is not going to be a kill, but for Echo,
the more they play this phase,
the more everybody deals with these debuffs
and all the random combinations of mechanics
that can occur here as Suri takes to the sky
with a massive OP to heal that raid there.
OP went and down.
He comes again as he moves out to get his Quilt soaked.
They've got a lovely little system here
where they do move away if possible from the Quill,
keep it in a straight line so that people can just walk into it without disturbing DPS.
Tons of micro-optimization, so that's the word I was looking for there, from the guy.
So there you go, it seems to play this out.
Yeah, I might not be surprised with Gabba and Charmy down, that's two of your invulnerabilities
have gone right with the ice block and the turtle.
We saw Charmy dying actually tanking up a bunch of the orbs in the middle of the soak,
so just a little bit of overkill on him.
Orbs coming through the boss here will be soaked up just in time.
the game. We're going to be
going to be a little bit more
fragile on the floor alongside
spend alongside the two players
I mentioned previously, so
still not going to have the
damage here, but perhaps there
has been a strategy change
where we're looking at that
boy like convergence, whether
we are going to fall in this
phase, whether we're still
trying to get it down at three
is yet to be seen. But again,
getting into phase two is okay.
We have the wide white for the
rest of the group. So this is
I don't think we've got a choice.
I think we're gonna have to see convergence four.
I think they have to work around that.
I think they're gonna have to,
it does allow them certain benefits.
One, they can blow their DPS cooldowns
as they have been doing to get into a good position.
And ideally, they can then have Bellarands so low
that they can really just not use DPS cooldowns
but focus into the ads and the eggs.
It's the soaps that are gonna be the problem
to get rid of those and then have,
they can time the transition really, really nicely
into the, if they do the fourth convergence.
Problem is, of course, the clear, as you can see on your screens,
risk of death at any moment for anything during that phase.
So it might be a case of chill.
Don't worry about touching ballerina.
In fact, we don't really want to do that after a certain point.
We just want to relax, let this play out,
and we'll transition it at the absolute perfect moment
and go for that one nasty, nasty burn.
You're all right there, JB. Looks like someone's annoyed you.
I've been handed a donation tablet with intent, I believe.
I didn't even read the donation.
I just thought JB hasn't done donations.
Well, that's interesting.
Here we got a $2.50 donation here from Skoll, who says,
Loving the race, just trying to stay on the sunny side of progression.
The strat is starting to hatch.
We are coming out of our shell this tier.
Thank you, Skoll.
He should be thankful. That's more kids helping 25,000 kids with health during this race to world first
It's about a thousand across the world
Up in two and a half children
And two and a half children
Two and a half more than I've helped
Got a rude
Half of a child
Do you get to pick with this one?
I mean that's the way of looking at it
Oh you can look at the size, that's not like 0.19 of a child
Yes it is
I'll take a foot in the big toe please
It's a bit of shit, a little bit of shit going in there.
Um, $10 donation from Eggwobble.
So why are the Ellie's the only one not taking the portal for the Eggburn?
Also can you wobble again?
Well we'll deal with the first half of that first.
Why are the Ellie's?
I've never seen Jerry so uncomfortable in my life.
Not taking the portal.
Well, the Ellies are getting a bit of a treatment at the start of the Eggburn.
They have been identified as the biggest blasters during that phase.
Ellie does particularly good burst single target damage.
So in order to amplify that, the decision has been made to have them walk off to the
far side of the room along with the Augavokers, with the goal being for the Augavokers to
use ebb and might which has a 100 yard range and then being far enough away from the rest
of the raid that the ebb and might goes exclusively on the ellie shamans and they get the full
value of that ebb and might buff which is normally applied to the entire raid now you're
getting the size of that entire buff but exclusively on the two ellie shamans then the evokers
rescued them back in to meet back up with the group at the start of the phase and then
Ellie Shaman's pop-off. As for the wobbling again, well let's see how we're feeling.
What time am I off the shift in five minutes? Yeah. We'll get back to that one.
We're in a pool so you can't focus on it right now. Yeah, we're in a pool. We're in a pool. We're
looking for the first world first echo has managed to get in midnight season one. That's what they're
looking for here. Not much of an opportunity for them in giving the Void Spire and the Dream Rift,
but certainly Marge from Kaldunas has opened that door for Echo to actually try and grab their
first world first at this race and try and take some sort of lead there currently in the lead,
but their day will be coming to an end in the next couple of hours. They would love to try and
pick up this kill. They've got to expect that liquid will. They've got another full day of raiding
in front of them as well. So it would be very, very nice to get there and see Lura before they
go to bed. They would go to bed all smiles, but it is a rough, rough road to get there. They've
made great progress in the last couple of hours, if you've been with us here, looking to try and
move more DPS to that second egg. 20% damage to find and they did that without any DPS cooldowns.
They probably had a couple of the one-minutes, you know perfect. Oh shadow dance or whatever
But in terms of the big slappers like JB just explained the Ellie shamans
Probably not in fact, can we follow stove when we get to P2?
Just to see when he is using that ascendance
I'd be very curious as to when a sentence goes on as you can see it's on 26 seconds cool down now
And that is about the perfect timing. They're gonna hold as much as possible here. Yeah
Yeah, you're waiting for that voice like convergent cast.
Want to kill it just before it goes down.
14 seconds left.
You see how well their timing this transition is crucial
that they have everything available when they get in here.
Seven seconds, six seconds.
So it's going to land up perfectly with them coming in.
There you go.
Three seconds.
Gets his debuff song, gets his storm bringer cast,
and there comes the Ascendance.
Now, there we go.
Now he's popped it.
So we'll stick with Stove and see
Wayne is using it in P2 and whether they've
decided to move some of these cooldowns out of P2,
maybe looking to play a fourth convergence, whatever the plan may be for Echo here as
they try and squash this egg and flatten it and fry it.
Seven seconds remaining, still at 52.
It's going to go a little lower, three seconds remaining.
46, sir.
Yeah, 46.7.
46.7.
46.7.
Yeah.
Nice.
I don't get it.
That's fine.
Okay.
Oh, that's a lot of yellow arms.
But again, see that experience there?
they knew actually one of them needs soaking. That's what Roger's been trying to drill into
them. No unnecessary soaking. Frago in desperate need of help as the healers are now topping
him up. They obviously have to prioritise the people about to do the soaks. Mirrors goes
down. The rest is available as long as Bird doesn't get angry here. Thankfully it was
the cone that needs to go on to the teeth. Mirrors spinning it around. Narko got caught
in that unfortunately. As the bird decides to do a full 360 instead of just moving slightly
I think Mirrors was with the group because he got resed right so then he taunted and the bird was like
Oh, I'll same at the group and Mirrors like no, I'm over here now
And so we saw it getting dragged towards the side
But these are the failure conditions we talk about like losing a rez at this point obviously good that we had one in reserve after phase one
Something we're seeing more and more but now we have a show me going down if not good going down
We've got fellow going down and it just compounds and compounds and compounds should be like she's gonna use
they're on to bring themselves back to life. We have 50 seconds before the next battle
is without a healer. It's going to be very difficult to work through this phase. But
I wonder if there have been a few changes or whether Scribes just said like play it
out. Let's make sure that we know exactly what we're doing throughout the entirety of
this phase. Meris down again. And it seems like we don't quite know exactly what we're
doing. They're going a different way. Oh, yeah. Because before they were going clockwise
and now they're going. Interesting. They have changed this PC strategy. And perhaps
Perhaps in preparation for Convergence 4.
Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.
Not sure.
We shall wait and see with that, but they are going anti-clockwise now as Medic has pointed
out there.
I had to kind of laugh.
You did recently a podcast, Party C, with Dreadnust and Dorky and...
Apparently it's out.
I haven't listened to it yet.
Is it good?
I got told there was another one, not some interesting one, but they were two behind.
As you said, yeah, so apparently it's out.
So I had to laugh there because when we saw
mirrors take the resin pond,
and then the boss very quickly spun around with the frontal.
That's the thing Dorky loves to do,
to mess with other people in his Mythic Plus
when he's tanking is if a key is sufficiently low enough
for him to get bored,
and you are obviously going to time the key,
he decides it's a really funny time
to play frontal roulette with the group
where if the boss does a frontal that will definitely kill anyone in the group that's not the tank,
he will just stand on top of the boss and then try to run around really fast
so that there's no possible way for you to know which way the boss is going to be facing at any given moment
and you just have to accept your fate and someone inevitably dies and then he laughs and then we finish the dungeon.
And that was exactly what that looked like.
It did.
Except slightly higher stakes.
Yeah, well, the only poor Knuckle got caught here.
Yeah.
That was his fault.
Yeah, it shouldn't have been that.
Yeah, he probably tried to run from mirrors and something, but I'm sad to tell everybody that your egg puns that JB is going to be leading us now.
Yeah, because of the egg puns, actually.
He's actually scheduled to be up for two hours, but he's requested reprieve.
Because the session is over.
Egg pun donations, I'm actually exercising.
I had a clause in my contract about this exact thing, and uh, no pun.
And I regret saying exact because I expect somebody to be like
Don't get your feathers ruffled
I mean you also missed my over pun, which I thought that's high class punnery right there
So anyway, I'll leave these two to smell their own farts with each other
Oh, it's time you flew the nest
Broke your eye back, broke your cast as well
And then it's me and Medic with you, Charlie
And we'll read your puns back in a sec
It's fine, I'm really taking out the replacer of Gibraltar's.
I've been trying to swap a talent since I've been 10 points and I can't remember.
I really mind your dog.
No star, no star.
drops in close coming
wheels now
one more in truck maybe
wheels again and in trucks
watch the void bouncers
last quills coming now and light protecting
light protecting
call us open 2, 1, now watch
a cross coming
lagging to cross soon after the pierce
We're getting.
We're getting in the midst.
We're getting in drops. What's your closer to fire?
Drops.
I'm on the left.
Coilers.
I'm blue.
Interrops again.
Okay then.
Chill on the boss, more on the adds.
Coilers.
quills
there was the void balusters here from the front
last quills here, and light protecting us
kill the X first
and
farm the boss, yeah, look at it, just look at it, nothing else to do
okay
bird watching
Which videos?
Like saving us?
It's double hit incoming, going to green soon, AMC protecting the boss.
of course the turtle ending early of course
there you go
further
void wall
i'll do it then
i'll kick it all
wheels and interrupts coming
next blue
keep interrupting and move ahead rate
void ring interrupt
void ring interrupt
because after now
Soda baby back up
Light guys yeah, come here's a little bit
drops
This push the light guys
Interrupts guys interrupts
Light ring and interrupts
Light ring and interrupts push the quiz from the back
Light help that you need
He's good quills
last quills
Yeah, just finish the exit and we're good
Last ones whoever can just go here. We have the walkers as well
This is looking like a solid pull for echo the birds are coming
They're gonna try and push Bella run as quickly as possible the light dive is gonna come in they're gonna soak them
It did take Haleini down, but they have two combat res is available. The sentence has been held by stove here
They have to do these quills soak the balls and in two percent
We are going into deep down. We can get the rest again as long as we don't enrage that bird
This is a very tough crossover here. We go. Here we go. We've got quills to soak get in position echo
This is just a training dummy 44% in that egg in p1 for echo. Don't crash onto the
It's an angry egg. It's an angry egg. It was so close. I'd love to see replay of that
moment because it happened so quickly. I think highlighting exactly what happened to the
viewers would be great, but it was so close. They had cooldowns as well. They obviously
moved some things around. He could tell how much they held back because it was a struggle
to take Beloran over that 0% marker to transfer into that egg phase. Echo were cussing on
procking there and sending everything they had into the boss. It wasn't the lowest they
ever got egg one, but it was good enough, maybe.
It was good enough for like a 17, 15% it was good enough for another movement on that leaderboard
and more faith for the players, right? Like that 19.6% was after dinner. It still hasn't
been that long ago, but we are
coming towards two hours or so, right?
And that time, if you're not getting
more progress, sometimes things can
start to feel a little bit stale.
You've been up since 7am raiding.
It's 12 hours so far.
You're looking at another two, two and a half
or so before you call it for the day.
And if you can be in a position that feels
not unassailable, but difficult for liquid to catch up.
Yeah, let's watch this here.
So you can see they're just interrupting these birds.
They don't need to worry about them.
They're going to naturally come in.
They can just focus target them,
in sort of the Gigi is like.
Brimming with excitement for what's coming in here.
You can see he's got his stuff ready and raring to go.
Now, what's happening is these orbs transferring in the middle.
And as you know, when the bird is alive, including the egg,
if any of the orbs touch Bellaren, he enrages and explodes.
And all the orbs just happy.
And that's because they were just a few seconds
of getting that perfect transition, causing the egg to rage.
a few fractions of a second. if that had been half a second dive once, if you would have
been that side, at that point the car would actually need to go a little later because
the arms will have passed through the middle. It could not have been worse is what we're
saying. It was the worst possible time to transition Bella.
Cacophony of chaos, but another strong phase two. We had two deaths right at the end,
Hylaney going down and Tief going down, but we had both res is available, which is huge
to get to that spot with the
possibility of progression on
the bosses HP with those
cooldowns up. You have to feel
the guys have the bit between
their teeth now. They think that
they can kill this tonight and
they are really driving towards
what is not the finish line, but
is the penultimate lap of this
tier. It's time for the super
re log. They're all just doing
the quick re log, which is
something that they do. They
have a schedule and alarm for it
because if you have wow open all
Wow open all day. So if you're running says things run a bit slow
You can start see some things happening because you've had that game open for 12 hours or so
So they're just doing a quick reload. But what a tremendous effort from echo there
It's it needed a few seconds either way if they would have pushed Bellar and seven seconds earlier
The wall wouldn't respond if they had waited three or four more seconds afterwards
The wall would have traveled through the middle and Bellar and would not have crashed into them
But as it was, they were direct center of that platform.
Bellarant came crashing down into all of them
and raging and exploding all over the raid,
which is a real shame to see.
But again, very much more, so comfortable in P2.
And now it does look like they are moving more DPS cooldowns
to the egg.
And we know the big bosses, especially Yerog,
Yerelemental Shaman, that is doing so much of the work
during that phase.
And also the birds, we also know the thing
we should try attention to is allowing nice memes, for example, on that Devastation Demon Hunter to maintain resources.
Nothing less than Devastation Demon Hunter to be out of combat or with something not to hit.
Once they get rolling, they want to keep rolling and rolling and rolling and rolling and preparing for that burst.
And so the birds being alive is helping them. The hunters are able to funnel off the birds, so it's not a bad thing.
Yeah, it seems like that is the strategy now. I think the first time it happened, it was a,
I mean, it's like, oh, it's okay if this happens, but it feels like more and more. They're saying, let's keep those birds alive. Yes, we can interrupt them, assuming we don't have any problems with the egg placement where they're placed outside the arena while we're in the middle of the arena.
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I've been watching Mace the World first since Heroics Blitz after work.
Love production, casters and of course players.
Happy to have a difficult boss after Void, Spire, Flood.
I'm right, we were all in a race.
As far as Echo players are concerned, the race started on Wednesday.
Production said 21 Egg 355 in my head, but I don't know what that means.
Sure.
Chunks. Oh, that was his name.
Can you not read? No, but I'm just going to ignore production.
I read that it was Jake Sully.
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Yeah, we're too old for this leapspeak stuff.
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You can say hello as well. $25 for Mack Chunks. Even if Bellamon is a 300 pull boss why nerf
a 2 boss race unless its actually unkillable? We finally have something worth watching.
Great question. We don't want that. Blizzard tends to. Blizzard likes to target a 10 day
race and technically the race started over a week ago which means we're on eight days ago
with day eight. So Blizzard likes to target a ten day race that's our fear like we're aware
that that is Blizzard's goal and they don't want to have the Raiders like pushing hard and hard
for weeks and weeks. We've had a heroic week, we've had our second panific week so technically
although none of us really agree. The race has technically been going for eight days now,
so that's our fear. We don't want this nerfed. Nine days? Nine days. Oh God. Oh yeah, because
eight is Wednesday and today is nine. But the circles are round. Yeah, but all squares are
rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. One, two, nine days. Yeah, nine days. None of us
with $100 as well with no message. That is a pretty chad move to come in with $100 and not even leave
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preach get on the floor you cursed it cursed what you definitely cursed
to pull a little while ago.
Which one?
At most of them.
I can't remember cursing any pulls.
We did come in here, start casting, and then they wiped.
I mean, they've wiped 165 times.
Yeah, but we've been casting the majority of those.
Not us, but casters have existed.
I have casted the majority of these, actually.
But the first 40 don't count.
They were in item level 266.
Like, the first 40 pulls on that meter are an absolute lie.
because they were in high level 266 and goofing around.
The next 125 are tough polls to get through.
Yeah, they're changing something and then we did see the strategy change.
If you're wondering what's happening right now, why they're not pulling,
they've got 20% to go.
They're changing something.
This is a fight and Echo in particular never, never settles on a strike.
If there's a potential for an improvement, it doesn't matter if they've got 300
pulls in, they will explore it, check it out.
if Scripe agrees, then they will enact it. This fight is not solved. That's the simple,
you know, if you look at it as a puzzle, it is not solved. And so if there's modifications to be
made, they're going to make those changes. I mean, that's the way it's going to be.
I 100% agree. And I think the probable change is post VC3 play, right? Posts like conversion.
Never going to help anybody's just tuning in to see. Well, I was going to explain it,
and then we can use the BC3 technology, the lingo that I've developed here, right?
So Voidlight Convergence is a spell cast by Valoran that we see everyone's colors change
and you get put into Void or Light. In the second phase, so after egg one, we are seeing
three of them now, right? And previously, the goals seem to be burst it down before we get to
three. That's what we're doing phase one. So the expectation was that's what we're doing phase two.
However, on that previous pull, we saw the dive bombs coming out, the ad spawning, we saw the orbs coming in, and then we saw a slightly disadvantageous situation, where Bellaryn went up into the sky, crashed down and was immediately hit by an orb.
So my expectation is they're saying, okay, how do we play the delay between the Voidlight Convergence cast
into when the Orbs are not going to hit Bellaron, and how do we make sure we have optimal cooldowns
for when we go in? I think they're going to try and delay that phase a little bit more
before the next Voidlight Convergence comes out. It's the logical conclusion. You don't need to
push damage into Bellaron at that point because you've already done all the damage to Bellaron,
and use another cooldowns and you can in theory play this out you can you can not transition
to the egg phase for as long as you want as far as I know there's no hard limit on how
many times you can let Bella and cycle through the mechanics the issue is of course it's
a nightmare to survive there's a lot of mechanics but in theory you only need to do it once
which sounds strikingly similar to Rhygalon where they did this three healer or whatever
Nonsense strats where liquid went with the five healer strata, whatever that madness they came up with at Raigalon
And then we were casting that going in theory
They only need to do this once and that proved to be true
And they did do that and claimed that world first and it's not a position that's unfamiliar or uncomfortable for echo
maybe for some of the newer players who
Obviously we've had several players join us from method and from leggette
that. Uh, who have joined into
the guild who may not have been
in this situation, but for the
old heads, for your perfectos,
for your mirrors, his feet
stripes, for your Rogers, for
your Jinju's. They're like
first time. Oh yeah, we're
going to send this because we
believe the players are good
enough to get through this. Uh
and then we just need that
training dummy angle with the
second egg for them to unleash
almighty hell and have
everything ready for it. So
that's the call. That's the
call and we saw, uh, for
that we can. You know, just
move around a little bit to make
sure that stage is as effective
as possible because phase one
and now that I say that it's
not going to be for a little
while has been very clean. It's
fine on this fight, especially
to throw away a few phase one.
It's really fine. This fight is
murderous as a way of
making sure that we're not
phase one. Yeah, it's really fine. This fight is murderous as has been proven in the last few days, but we're still not into scary pool territory. Um, it looks terrifying because we are now three times higher than all of voids by and Chimera's put together. No, I think so. I think, uh, no, cause 20 off. Vanguard was like 50, right? Yeah, everything else was like one. No, but it was 20. It was 73. So we're more than double. Yeah, more than double. I'll give you more than double. 73. That's crazy.
It was 73, it told me when I lived it was about to be 80 or 9.
It was 73 pulls for Echo, and we're now at 165, so it looks a little scary, but in historical terms,
this is nothing. Are you kidding me, bird? You better put some gravy on this, because we're fine.
We're good, this is nothing. This is what the guys have been craving. This is why they put in months
a month of work. This is why they level 28 characters during the early access week. This is the
entire reason they do this is so they can come together and really push themselves to the max.
So Gulp taking it first, this is going to be good because Jinji and one of the hunters,
I could never see their names, is going to do the soak there. And as Medic said, phase one,
looking on repeat on farm I guess is the best way of looking at it. You can still go very wrong
obviously, but they've been very comfy here. So goal is not to relax though. They want to push
egg one down as fast as as much as humanly possible. Yeah, when we get there. 43% I think is really
good for us right now 41.5 the best ever but a lot of cooldowns have been moved around since
that point and my expectation is we'll be seeing around the 43 42 mark if they really managed to
push it. Usually we're entering that phase around 140. This is the second void like convergence
of the first phase, where all of those colours change around, when we hit the third, just before the cast goes off.
You want to get Bellarmine down, so you don't have that full cast with all the Orbs coming out.
Another Soak, again, it's cyclical, right? It's Soak into Quills with the Orbs coming out.
You have the birds you need to interrupt that can dive in from the Soaks after you kill off the birds and you kill off the eggs.
You also have your tanks doing a little bit more work than tanks usually do, at least in terms of individual agency on fights recently.
We've had a lot of well, this boss is just a tank swap and then after a tank swapped. Yeah, I'm good
Here there's a lot more movement of the of the bird itself
But also making sure you're in your color assigned positions orbs coming out again
A lot of these do need to be soaked as they are gonna work their way towards the boss
But again echo doing a good job of it and you can see you're never mine
Bowsies head down there. They're actually looking for the perfect transition there and kind of stretch things out
I think this might be related to what you said earlier is they've moved some cooldowns around now. They know that phase one or egg one
As we're calling it is yeah, we're P1 E1 VC 3
VC 3 post VC 3
But phase egg phase. Yeah, we'll go with that bird phase egg phase is they need everything
There is no room to skip a percentage on the egg
So we might actually see that happening. They had that little break there. So it's entirely possible the echo has gone
You know what?
We got to ride this out
So we need you to do it without using anything because we need everything for the egg if they can cut three more percent of
That egg in P1 huge that is massive when it comes to egg two
So those are the kind of choices very similar to the progression we saw in Demensius where you know the guys were bloodlusting P1
Sending everything and then they got to the platforms and it was like okay. This is okay
And then we see oh there's a big burn phase on Demensius and P3 we need bloodlust there
Alright, so take the bloodlust off P1, now P1 is much harder, but it's going to work out long term
This is the kind of progression that Bellarant is asking of Echo and they're answering in kind and they're smiling and laughing
Yeah, they've been in front all day, which is a very nice position for Echo to be in
Usually it's not so the last boss that they managed to try and catch up and overtake liquid
But this time they started their weekly reset
Got the bare minimum amount of stuff they needed after a massive amount of gear planning last week
and just went straight into March before Liquid even steps inside.
Yeah, I've seen a lot of people asking,
oh, well, when are they going to do splits?
When are they going to do splits?
They haven't done that many splits.
Echo don't plan on doing splits as far as we're concerned.
They managed to get the crest discount
by leveling up a second character
and getting it over the limit
to have crest discounted on your other characters,
to have those upgrades discounted.
And so because of that,
they've been able to get very strong characters here
and then use that discount to wisely apply the quests that they have onto these characters.
And because of that, then, they didn't really expect to have to do many splits.
There is an argument to do Beloran and Lurra splits on Heroic,
because there are some rings that drop, I believe, and a neck that drops that are very powerful,
but they've decided against that. At least for now, there's still a possibility
that they might at some point say, actually, the little bit of shielding that we get out of
one of these trinkets is really powerful. I think it might be a ring, actually.
But overall for now, we believe at least, and this is not something I've been directly told by Roger or Scriper, anyone in charge,
that Ekko are done with Splits. Mythic Prog is the way that they want to go from here, and it's working so far.
20% on the Bellarun, on that second egg. Still a lot of work to do, but we are getting towards a position where the start of the boss
relatively consistent, and we're looking for those extra percentage points of damage,
Rather than looking to get through phase one cleanly and then the question is can we get to phase two with everyone alive?
Yeah, they have to chill here a little bit
They're gonna wait wait wait wait because this is all about resetting cooldowns
They need their DBS players cooldowns to be on park and we switch the stove if possible
You can see that ascendance with 10 seconds main
So it was a little early on the push for what he would like by about two seconds
That's okay
He's gonna while his way in three seconds left on that sentence get set up
But there goes the ascendance off we go and now echo
Although we do have Mastin who was stood in the wrong quadrant and now has an enormous done
You can see the icon above his raid frame there
He is going to take an insane amount of damage for such a long time the healers are now going to be not DPSing
Which they would love to do to just keep Mastin alive through this you can see this not even a halfway through
You can see that's actually suffered elsewhere.
Skarner was obviously focused elsewhere,
trying to keep Mace Dean up.
Not even halfway still, that debuff, by the way.
Yeah, it's a one minute debuff in totality.
Two million damage across it.
And yeah, as you can see, Mace Dean on the floor.
Skarner down means that we have used our combat res as well
and the boss is 47%.
You know what?
At that point, you're kind of like just soul stone the guy.
Because we lose all the healers doing
any form of damage whatsoever during that and live in fear.
I know you want to keep that player up for the bloodlust of
everybody. It's kind of worth like soul stoning them. Just die
fast and res up and keep going. You obviously lose your dragon
rager. I believe it actually is playing well, but you get what
I'm saying. He's lost all that benefit at that point. It's
going to be a throw away. One thing we haven't really talked
about on the broadcast unless one of the other cast has did is
the different strategy which that we've seen between Echo and
Liquid came to gearing. This has been something we've been
talking about a lot behind the scenes and I think it's really
cool that the staggered raid release as much as race world first fans were not like super
happy with it and even with you know neither we because it created this like stall in the
race before we could get started again is how the guilds adapted to that because it's
such an unusual situation and both guilds are going in different directions which has
been super interesting from a nerd POV.
Yeah.
It's liquid choosing to basically gear two characters as far as we can tell so that they
could actually and that's benefited them in having a raid where they could use a lot
more Vantus on Beloran, but a slightly lower item level, but also having the option to
fully Vantus Lura as well. Whereas Echo has got very, very, very strong characters. They
do have alternative characters that are very strong as well, like Jinji has 2, 2 out in
item level 280. If you look at the top item levels in the world right now, it's practically
all Echo. They have a ludicrously strong character, but they can't send Vantus on a lot of those
characters here because they're gonna need those characters for Lura. Yeah it is interesting as
well that I checked liquids pools in the morning and it may change today, of course they may see
the progression the Echo have made. They only have two Vantices running. Oh that's my mistake,
I'll be happy. No but that was our expectation was that they would come in with multiple Vantices.
I had a couple going for midnight falls which if you're running the Hero Explosive on it you might
as well do it assuming you're going to be in on the pool or if it's a you know more of a throwaway
character you just Vantice what the hardest thing is you're going to play that week right.
But then they only had two on their hunters as far as I recall could change today could be that we see a full Vantas
It could be also that liquid, you know
They haven't sent crests or something and that eye level is going to jump up now that they realize
The it's a little bit more killable haven't said all of their resources into these guys
So that balance of I think for me. It's the first time I've really seen such a dramatic difference
In how the two guilds have gone about it. It's a gamble either. Yeah
Really is such a gamble because in order to do what echo did they had to burn characters
And to describe what that is while the guys are just getting ready for another pool here
They had to create characters that just had a stupid high item level. Yeah
That they weren't gonna play so an item level that would get them the hero of the dawn achievements
So they could have that an account wide achievement
Which they could then use to get the discount on their main characters
So they had to do splits and things like that and get gear that they don't want to wear
But it has high item level number and that then they don't enable them to get the
that they could swap back to
their main and now use half
price crests. The downside
obviously is you have a lot of
gear going to characters. You
have no intention of using it
whatsoever and they're not
optimized in any way shape or
form. Now some of the guys got
lucky and did end up with high
item level alts that were
optimized. Yeah, they just had
less crests because they had to
that's why perfect. I have a
he could swap to his alt rogue,
as well. And you can do the
players who could do that.
I think the important
clarification there is for
people to learn this item
level is keep right. The
more power you're going to
having the right stats on
important for these guys.
You want your haste, you're
on your haste mastery. You
want your versatility. If
So they are just taking from the splits any gear they can equip and it's like, okay
I need a trinket a myth trinket dropped. Is it good for you? No, who cares?
I'm chucking it on. I'm loving it up and then getting the discount. So even that's why it's burning the character
It's yes
It's high item level but when you're playing at this level needs to be high item level and it needs to be this
For it to be the most effective. Yep
You're looking for hot you would basically guys if you played Rathalich King, it's gay score
They had to bolster their gear score and I'm sure those of you who played Rathalich King originally and perhaps this even happened in classic
You have your healers stealing tank trinkets
You have your DPS stealing healer trinkets
Why the number go up and that made gear score number go up and that's all that matters
So they basically did a wrath strategy of making that happen as they pop out here and do this soak
Defensive to be used properly. We have seen a couple of people who are
are technically able to survive that soak
without using powerful cooldown to die.
They've been overkill by a couple of percent.
That's how micro this is.
In fact, it's one thing you'll see
on some of the raid frames is a red X appear.
That red X is telling the healers
that person doesn't need an external.
So don't, so if it goes on the mages or something like that,
it's like, don't external that person.
Save that pain suppression, save that,
save like a queen, whatever it might be.
They don't need it.
They don't need the hunters, of course,
using more sacrifice.
It's fine that they've really been maxing this.
I know, but it was like 0.3 seconds before that rebirth cast.
They have to.
Like they need everything here.
It's still not perfect here for Stove.
I'm basing a lot on his Ascendants.
Cool down, seven seconds.
The bird is going to come crashing down now.
And in we go.
That rescue in.
Ellie Blast up, gets set up.
Stormkeeper on into the Ascendants.
Now, there we go.
And now they're going to put Bobbi Ticlid soda immediately
going into here, which seems like sloppy play.
We've also got one of the pre-set.
So, yeah, it's debuffed as well. This could be a little bit of greed showing through and not trying to greed out that extra global cool down. Obviously, the fight kind of demands it, but not if it's going to I mean, without DPS, you're not going to make it.
So it's like, yes, we need to greed, but, you know, don't cringe it out.
that's what we're talking about.
Yeah. So we guys the dot soda
on the floor. Three is the one
brought up. So they want to
just get a little bit more
practice through this phase to
if they do get claiming towards
that third voice conversions,
we can see if they have been
any changes. As you can see all
the orbs. Those it doesn't only
do damage to players. If it hits
the boss, it blows up as well
and basically kills everyone of
the associated color. So you
really you really have to be
careful with how those orbs are
going past and Roger has been
optimizing. So I only soak these
to get through this without
losing another member. Yeah is
anti clockwise again. That
seems to be a strategy that has
stuck since they changed it. I
wonder if it's just like orb
spawning because this was look
at how far away that circle of
orbs is. So they're baiting the
these are the new type of orbs
that you get in this phase,
which are these concentric
circle orbs or donuts
essentially of orbs. They're
fixated onto the location of
the boss. So you want to cut
away through that. So one of
them and then drag the boss out
that. So one of them and then
drag the boss out there that
all those are can be ignored.
They're just going to travel
towards the boss and then be
irrelevant again. You see the
hunters going out. It's it's
the tax doing that and I just
created just a tiny wall here
because they're so far over in
the corner that the ricochet
is very likely to make it all
the way back to this corner.
These are all that don't get
soaked now. You can see they're
clearing all these on purple
because they're going to hit in
that corner and bounce back
into the room. So this is all
reduce the amount of orbs they have to deal with so you can see the donut is
farming again just moving the boss over and only a couple of the orbs need to
be soaked because they're all going to meet in that area there as you can see
and then they travel into the wall harmlessly. It's that little ebb and flow
like move it a little bit further bring it back so we can get the soaps in a
good position then step back forward another set of light orbs coming in we
have had so to death the majority of this phase. There get them both just in time
but there's BC3 and yes we have had a DPS down this entire phase but 20% is a
a lot of health for Void Convergence 3.
Just chill.
Have the light dives coming out, chill.
Wait for the cooldown, so the old double dead on the dive.
We got the res in Skanna, that's okay.
We're nice to get the res off.
Skanna's going to have to go up, but this is dangerous.
They never had to play this long into the fight safely,
so it's not surprising things going wrong.
This is Arbs traveling right through the boss.
They just managed to clear the two.
Look at these quills aiming directly at each other,
working at it.
Yeah, there's a lot of options.
They've got kind of traps in the corner.
I think they still, which I don't know if that was the right call.
They still tried to transition Beloran into the egg phase.
They stayed in that corner and didn't choose to come out of it.
Yeah.
Just kind of hope the DPS would carry them over the line there.
But so even with one DPS dead, the amount of health left on Beloran felt very chunky.
It felt very much like we are holding.
We are delaying the damage on this because mechanically, obviously it's very hard,
but they had a system.
it was like move here to here, get your GCDs off, move here, go here, get your GCDs off.
I really think the tech that we had in the slightly longer pause before these last couple
of pause was we are extending post VC3. Post that Void Convergence 3, we are going to play it
to a certain point. Now we don't quite know what that point is yet. It seemed like after
that last set of donuts maybe. Basically what they're doing, I'm guessing they're going for
the wall to pass. The wall that previously killed them when the Ballerin dive bombed into the
orbs. My guess based on what we're seeing and how little they're doing to Bellarang is they're
going to do it. So the order of events is going to be doing the convergence that chooses the life.
Then as soon as that's finished Bellarang then spawns the birds that need interrupting and then
killing they will turn to rebirth eggs. They're going to do that. Then they're going to wait for
the wall to spawn and then they're going to time it so the wall is getting near the middle because
there's quite a bit of RP with Bellarang going into the air. They come back down and then they're
going to go. So what we should see, I think, based on the perfect transition is Bellar and crashing
down as the orbs leave the mid area. Yeah, as they crossed. We're so happy you guys are here, though,
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Yeah, if I could could break this many eggs, we wouldn't be here good
I'm happy. I could don't progress this fast because we get paid by the day
Give us a couple more, you know, it's gonna be every three weeks. Yeah, I have
Yeah, I have a real job to get back to unfortunately my job from here
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I'm looking forward to see what we get in this one as well.
The Galleon is looking very juicy.
I have and it does not bend.
It does not bend.
It's made of steel and iron, that thing.
It's absolute beast, but we'll come back to that after this
poll.
We never want to miss the action.
Certainly when we're looking at something like this,
we're going to have to go back to that.
We're going to have to go back to that.
We're going to have to go back to that.
We're going to have to go back to that.
when we're looking at some fantastic rating game play
like we're seeing right now.
So off echo go once more.
If you're wondering why there's pings
above people's heads,
this is a way that the players have developed.
And you guys are gonna have to get used to this as well.
In a weak, or a less world
that would assign people to do these things
back in the day, that no longer works.
So now players take it upon themselves to say,
I can help you soak your quill.
I ping myself and that tells the other players
it's dealt with, you don't need to worry about it.
They're pinging themselves for that exit.
You can see that it's just happening
over the players heads that pinging themselves saying I'm dealing with it.
Nobody else worry about it.
You guys continue DPSing.
It's convenient for me.
So this is one of the cool things, you know, yes, we have had add-ons in this
race that we didn't expect to see.
Uh, but some of them definitely went through and the players are batting.
Yeah, they are having to hold a lot of damage on Bella in here.
We have both those rebirths going off one egg already down.
Yeah.
We, so we had the last 10% of Bella and took us 15 seconds, which is so much slower.
That's nice. Yeah, that's really solid. You can see a game better and better at it. We did lose teeth
So unfortunately thinking back. It's fine. Yeah, just don't can we just not standing any bad quadrants here?
Oh, that would be really cool. Yeah, don't want to see any of those debuffs on the raid frames off towards the left
Not okay, so one big I
Did he I think he's Bob might have run out on the drop. I didn't see exactly what kill him
But we have lost our rep paladin God
But unsurprisingly given the nature of Narcolees, he's still top DPS from the grave.
That's why they bring him. He cannot be stopped. Life is but a hurdle.
And where was Narcolees on these bars, man?
He's actually above the shaman. They scrolled down to keep Narcole out of it.
Which is really unfortunate. 50% not what we're looking for at all.
But obviously DPS dead going into that.
So they're still going to play this out because there's a new strategy in play here.
We've seen that they're not gonna play this out. So they might still play out some of it just for the practice like I know it sounds weird to say
170 168 pulls in we're gonna play it out for the practice
But when strategies change on a boss this difficult having the reps in is so important
You look at things like a laundry that went 300 400 pulls was it?
Tindra Iraq's was up there as well. Yeah
They're bidding this one which is fair
is
They're looking to get egg two. Yes, that's where they're looking to get but we will see the play out because medic is quite right
They although they're 168 pulls and the strategy is actually about seven pulls old. Yeah that they've adapted in p2
So if they feels like they can make some prog they will
But so they're not gonna waste their time either as the clock ticks here in cologne probably another
hour and a half hour 45 left for echo in their rating day, but it is conflagratia
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One thing to point out for you, though, is it's not something that gives you change, the coupon,
so make sure you fill your basket as much as possible when you're picking up your games.
Yeah, imagine it like a 50 euro voucher that you get to spend once.
You don't get 20 euro voucher back or anything, so fill up as much as you can.
Okay, production. Yes. I said once you only said 18,000 words today, but you got one right
I'm just gonna sit here and press my buttons and even I do that wrong, you know when we got brought up on the camera in the middle
Of a pool. I got muted during a game
You know I was being really kind of accidentally
Ready check goes out immediately
There's nothing for echo to learn right now other than what it's like to pull Lura
and they're looking to learn that right now.
Oh, that would be a great end to their night, right?
Wouldn't it? It's tough. It's a tough road,
and they won't cry themselves to sleep,
but they don't make it, but they would like it.
They would like it. They know that liquid is going to be
hot on their tails with a full raid day in front of them,
and they would like to claim all the victory.
They've done tons of progress, lots of adaptation,
lots of changes to maximize everything here.
So we are going to have to wait and see.
team, in fact, they're pulling
out. We're in that scenario.
Oh, the race is on.
This is the best time.
I remember watching when it was
side by side.
The messiest when it was side
by side.
This this is where the race
really begins and echo
currently in the lead at the
end of day two of their reset
liquid about to start day three
of this set 278.1 a slight
item level jump.
I believe the liquid on 277.8
I think it was 278. We saw them on a bizarrely low item level yesterday when they were pulling
Bellarang as they're getting caught up. Honestly, it's 276, doing some pulls. Fat Shark going
to be joining them as well. Not surprising, the Astonables might be a bit behind for honestly,
and Fat Shark obviously not access to like endless mythic splits, and your guys' wonderful
help during Heroic Week as well. And even one of you who pugged Mythic.
Yes, that person did get kicked. Oh, yeah. Only because series power came back is what
I've been told because I believe it was Suri one of the raiders power went out and someone came in to help with the pug and then
Ended up well Suri's back. We might as well put Suri in because
Suri's in the guild. Yeah
He's in the guild and you're not
Member of the raid team. So yeah, it's probably worth bringing Suri back in
Going there, but gg's whoever it was. He was like I got this
Yeah, like actual John Rambo come out of it like I'm almost secondary
Narcoleys not that he could ever be cloned or replaced and of course not and in fact the geneticist masters not to do that
Yeah, it would be unfair that would be a bad mess
It would be a bad mess to have two narcos because that's two rep houses
It's been bad enough to get one of them one boss of eight. Okay. Yeah an entire eight series
Yeah, it's actually incredible for Narko so far.
I hope they bench him there.
No, not for Lure.
I don't put Narko on the bench for Lure, man.
It's so unfair.
I don't want it to happen, but it'd be so funny.
If he got all the way to Lure, they benched him.
That would be tragic.
Looking for that slow roll now.
That's all that matters.
The birds are more important here.
Those two embers.
There's a light ember and a void ember,
and they can only be interrupted by the people
who have been given the matching colour.
So this is, again, another thing
that weakerers would have solved in the past, you would have been told your
instructs, it would have gone, oh you're void, you're going to do the first, and that
doesn't work anymore. It is down to the players to use a priority system in order
to figure out, okay I have it and you have it. All right, we also have the
melee, if you wonder how they're controlling them, Narko and Koresh are taunting those
in on demand. This is a much better transition, nine seconds on a sentence
here is how we're judging it, he should get a beautiful sentence here, we might see
something special here. Let's
see what happens. They get
into the air. Beautiful. Can you
cast it now? He does. That's
really about as quickly as you
could do one GCD sooner. I
would say would be perfect
there for stove. Everyone alive
as we see the void orbs coming
in. Thankfully, the orbs on
either side are matched by the
areas on the map that the
players need to soak. They're
going to have a tricky phase
coming out of here, medic. They
only nice to soak three on
I think we're going to have
a couple of seconds left going
sub 50 or three seconds left.
Keep going echo keep going 47
47 flat is what I saw. Oh
Chamele dying immediately as we
come up. I believe they'd use
the anchor. We still have the
combat resident. Another one
coming up in one minute 50. Now
we'll see Bella and pulled up
towards the top side of the
arena and we'll be going in a
clockwise pattern so far double
Soaks doesn't quite look like
It looks like they're going back clockwise before now we're going back to clockwise. Yeah
I think it was on the it could be dictated by whether they're getting east west on north south walls
We do see them change that on depending on which is coming out
So maybe they're a little bit more familiar with this good did go down
So they've had to get the res maybe a little confused. He was ginger actually
It's ginger wise anti-clockwise for the same process. You can see they've baited the donut voids that spawn around the boss over there
So they're going to harm us to see down
We're about to see a big red bird and this big red bird is angry
We have a little bit more time than usual because usually you have a tank buster coming out void like convergers gonna cast first
And then we'll go into that void like edict and Bella and it will get very cross still doing all the motions until that point
Is he still trying?
There's just thanking it here. We are boys like edict
Really bad. I know that's it or soaking it
Yeah, as long as it hits all of the match in colour
Yeah, but now we've got the next two kips in a row that kills everybody.
What are you guys' ways about?
When you have a void targeting you as a light tank, it's like, um, any help here guys?
Yeah, it is interesting because the way that tank buster works is somebody of the matching
colour has to take the soak. So are you ready for the one tank angle?
One tank, Anx, and the two battle res. Is this a Cavesa situation all over again?
Are you ready for the one tank angle? It's on its way where we just have these
If anyone can do it, these guilds can do it like liquid necko. I believe that they could make it work
However, unlike kivaza
I think blizzard will say no
Right. I think they'll just be like now. I'm good fam. We'll we'll nerf it for you. Okay. No, you watch Ian
Just leave it alone for a little bit. I'll give us one more day
Yeah, give us one more day. Here's one more day. They're getting close. They're getting close
I know you want to go 10 days, but they've only really rated since Wednesday. Yeah, it's been far man
Yeah, they've been chilling. They've been chilling as break time is called which might be a problem opportunity for us
Yeah, I think we're gonna take the breaker. We don't want to miss any of the actions
So if they're taking six minutes, we'll take a three minutes and that equals nine minutes break. Yep. That's math
That's math. We'll be back with a shot
Oh
Oh, no, I said before I'll stay here to get it all
I told you to show now you're losing
Oh, when I'm around, when I'm on the ground
I'm taking love and thoughts around, love and thoughts around
Don't throw up on the ground, don't hang on the ground
Cause you know this is all right anymore
Don't hang on the ground, don't hang on the ground
When I get you alone, I'm not ready to ignite
I want us to go, I'm not gonna turn up every light
Baby, burn me to ashes, let it all rise
Let it all rise
You send my body, all on my body
You send my body, all on my body
I'm fine
You send my body, all on my body
I'm not ready to ignite, I want us to go on
I'm done, I'm done, I'm ready
I beg you, burn me to ashes
Then I rise, then I rise
You set my body out on my body
You set my body out on my body
I'll fire you
You set my body out on my body
You set my body out on my body
I
Should
I should I need you but I'm afraid that's not up to me
Cuz when I hear you
See my speakers. It's like my mind takes a hold of me
I'll try shutting you off first time
But I'm still hearing that voice
I
I
But I might be learning in class, but if someone is quick to see me in class before...
You want to do one right now?
Yes.
You want to come on the English stone?
Okay, then you could take a break.
Oh, yeah, sure.
You have a sound when you are close-ups, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, if you get to find the same colors, you get to find them.
Yeah, I think it does the most, yeah.
Yeah, I mean if you get the sound it means either have a new color or use the same color.
Yeah.
It will not change after that.
Great change again.
The CVS is taking the sound and everything.
If you want to change the, is that one, is it Polar Swap?
I need a reset bus.
Okay.
Do we have a swap?
I don't think we should, we're like, we're just...
We're still at this fucking equisplat with non bro.
I have all items on.
Because I have an AMD, I don't need any, I have endless FPS.
Unlimited FPS.
Someone popped one bro.
Yeah, that was Mike for sure.
We're going late.
How late are we going?
No, I haven't plugged it.
10 PM guys, 2 hours.
10 PM bro.
He's in the car.
Pull him by the way, pull him.
Let's get it.
I'm down bro, I'm down.
And it's not fucking guys, get those base 2 wipes.
Actually it pulls, not wipes.
It's north star.
Join me back up.
Where the fuck am I?
I think he drops some close.
Where is Quill on me, but I will restart.
Yeah, just so you can see it.
You're good, you're good.
Quills again, interrupts.
That's lighted near the boss.
Four quills.
Last quills, yeah.
Light one in the front.
Wait, what's from the right guys?
Call the swapping in 2, 1, flash towards, nice, this is it, we can, bolt, is this all?
Yep, xx, drops and kills coming, drops, should we get the kills?
Where is Charmy?
Drops and drops
Tank was here
Good teeth here, and drops
Look behind you, who is protecting?
Boy protecting
X here, X
We're not dead, that's how it would be
BAM
Bit of a struggle though, seems to back up call, yeah?
I think so far, yeah, on to statistic.
Every time we hit backup, go to the first one, I think they've not made it all up for me, guys.
I'm a girl, I...
We can do it.
I'll make the call like 10-15.
You just don't send backup, I'll see what happens.
No, but if you know what it means, yeah, I think I know, right?
Absolutely shit.
I mean, I think we also lost Tommy at a pretty bad time, I mean...
I think we can make the damage.
that 19.6% PB, but we are seeing constant growth from the
radars. Consistency all across the board and we're all
waiting with anticipation to see another good phase two egg,
egg number two and see exactly what they could pull out.
We've definitely seen the move some of their DPS cooldowns,
but more importantly, that is the comfort of the radars.
And you may have just seen something interesting on your
cameras. Let's go to the replay there. If we can, here we
we go and you can see here stove a little bit of rubbing on the arms swaps them out for the new secret lab
these are the felt ones yes indeed the felt ones much more comfortable here for stove after sitting in
the chair for 13 hours already today and many many more over the last few weeks that is the best
case you can get secret lab providing so much for the raiders integral that they're comfortable all
day. You need your arm rest changing. You prefer felt over a leather feel. We got you
fam. Swapping it out and making sure they're good, which is guaranteeing the kill. The
Ali Shaman stole their vital to egg DPS now with forearms drenched in silk.
No, no fiction as well when he reaches for that ascendance. Here's just going to be
instant.
I have ascended. I have become one with the universe and I am ready to pump damage into
the egg. If you haven't been
watching so far, Bellarmine,
basically a two phase fight.
Phase one, you're fighting up
against this bird. Lots of
orbs come in. You have these
ads that you have to deal with,
but all the damage in this
phase does not count towards
your boss damage. All you're
trying to do is get into phase
two, where an egg forms in the
middle of the arena, and then
you have 30 seconds to pump as
much DPS into that egg as
possible. We then repeat the
process, and the goal is to have
the egg down within two of
two of those rotations so far, we have only seen one clean push into that second egg with 20 players alive. That's where we got the 19.6% from. But Echo are getting very good at getting through this phase one with everyone alive.
We just heard Mira say they're going to push another couple of hours into this.
They're going to be moving their schedule later and later through the week.
If you're wondering why, why don't they just have a consistent sleep schedule?
It's actually because of any changes Blizzard makes to the bosses tend to come in the evening for the EU.
So they start early because we get a very early server reset.
It was at 6am this week, so they want to be there for the launch,
maximize their uptime in the instance, getting as much done as humanly possible.
And now of course, the week they'll push back that little bit, go a little bit later,
because if there is any changes that may come to Beloran or may even come to Lura at some point,
they don't want to be extremely tired when that happens. So one of the strategic changes Echo has
made over the last few races is just push that timer back, let the guys chill. Now they're going
to wait here. You can see they're going to slow DPS and they want to buy time here in order to get
the cooldowns back. Not bad. 1.46. That's actually really solid. The ascendance at 10 seconds away
here for Stove. He's going to be brought over to this side of the room with his fellow element of
of Shaman in Chamele and then we'll have both the evokers pull them in, try and get those
cooldowns off as quickly as possible. Ascendant straight away, pump this bot full of damage.
Yeah, you can see the use of Time Spiral here as well, providing all the movement abilities
following that Spirit Walkers grace. Absolutely crucial during this portion of the fight, allowing
the Ellie Shaman to constantly DPS without any interruptions whatsoever, 56% with 10 seconds
remaining. They're going to get relatively low here. 5 seconds sub 50. Another 4 left on the clock. 47, 46, 46, dead.
It looked like 46 dead. Not bad. Not bad at all. We're looking eventually for sub 44. Even sub 42 would be a really good
push. But what we really want right now are these clean phase 2s. It feels like they are delaying a little bit more than
they have been in this phase 2. We're going to go for the counterclockwise movement pattern here. Soaks going against this wall
and then we'll slowly move Beloran across towards the left of the room baiting out the donut orbs
that will come out in just a moment's time. None of those orbs can hit the boss.
Saul I think just tanked one that he wasn't meant to but we have a combat res and we're
going to bring him up straight away. Yes we certainly are. You can see that little shimmy
that Jinji had to do there because the orbs coming in he is currently infused with light and if any
of these void orbs touch him he's going to die. That frostmage mobility, the ability to spam the
Iceland's maintain full DPS while doing these little steps these micro movements just to allow the albs to pass through him
Really good clean so far their comet res is coming back in one minute
They need to play this out though
There's the next void like convergence and a change of color for the players as they now focus up on the next so
It's gonna brush these soaks up right next to the previous ones in go the immunity soakers
They're in and done and now they're gonna be moving back out
We're gonna be doing another void like convergence coming up here
So they're going to be looking to push Beloran with probably the adds up, which is fine.
And all they need to do now is not die.
I know that sounds easy, but the spike wants to murder you, especially when these orbs traveling through the wall.
Yeah, here's that next set of donut warps.
You can see as soon as they come out, Beloran is pulled out of the epicenter of that donut.
And that means those orbs can kind of just be negated, kind of not thought about.
We saw huge healing absorbs across the raid as well that have now been topped up.
Void Edict does the tank buster that our tanks need to alternate on depending on what kind of they are.
to be able to get the
advantage of this fight. We
have to get the advantage of
one voyage convergence coming
out more orbs there used as
well. But this is the delay
that we were talking about the
post V C three is looking okay
so far. But this is the portion
of the fight that these raiders
haven't got the reps on so far
for each. No, they haven't. That
soak has gone off and we did
lose spend, but the combat rest
is available for him. This is
the most dangerous portion of
this fight. They have to hold
on for quite some time. They're
ads going to check. They're just going to chain and
disrupt them and get out of there. Soak as much as
you can, but don't die. Beloran on one percent and we are
off. We are about to see egg number two. Behold, ladies and
gentlemen, as they keep these ads, they don't want to kill them
out here. They want to be killing them in there unless
these rebirth eggs are going to be chilling at the side.
You can see the dive as well. The dive was up by again. Four
or five seconds was what was needed there. You either go
earlier or you go later. That is what is needed. If you go
can help with the soak go later. It's going to just crash down. That's the second time
that's hanging to Apple. Yep. So importantly, when you move into that phase two, Bellarant
dives into the middle becomes an egg and it will clear all of the orbs that are there.
However, if Bellarant dives into an orb, you die. And so you can see when we talked about
post VC three post void convergence three, I'm going to make you use this at some point.
Post VC three, the timing is so vital working out exactly what time you can transition the
boss into that egg phase without having orbs at the epicenter, at that central point of
the arena when Bellaryn then dives down. Just a couple of seconds off is all it takes and
sometimes it can be really hard to hold that DPS especially when you have the adds to deal
with as well because even if you hit an add perhaps you cleave a little bit off it, you
get that extra 0.1% down on Bellaryn, Bellaryn then transitions, you have the adds that you
have to interrupt as well, you have to be the same color as the add to be able to interrupt
it so there's so much going on, you're dodging the quills at the same time by the way.
You have the least amount of mobility and so much to play
During that moment and a portion of the fight is one of the most chaotic
15 seconds you're ever gonna have in World of Warcraft is being trapped in that corners
Arms going everywhere. There's three quills going up at the same time
You've got these ads up and you don't want to kill them
But you need to
Pumble your damage into Bell around either as quickly and then our skirt will say stop stop stop
But also don't hit the ads that'll be some classes who actually really benefit from hitting those ads
If that's what the dead demon hunter will want to do that. So it's like nobody else
If you're not benefiting from it leave it alone
Let those guys get up there because it's gonna help us when we transition into there
They're gonna drag those birds on top of Bellarans egg and that's gonna allow some of them to funnel
They're gonna turn to rebirth eggs. They're naturally going to die. It's going to be fine
But until that it needs to go perfectly right and so far echo has twice been about five seconds
long either side of what they need. They either need to go a little of it, or a 5 second shot.
As I said, as Medic pointed out, if those orbs even are converging on the middle,
he's going to dive. When he dives, they'll go away, and it'll be totally fine.
But what you don't want is them to be directly in the middle of their platform and the play space.
But a great pull from Echo. Transitioning into there, they had everybody up.
They were ready and raring to pump, but they just need five seconds.
And the reason you're delaying is because you want these big cooldowns back up.
Two-minute cooldowns are huge in WoW. You also have three-minute cooldowns.
The one-minute ones, you can kind of play around with a little bit more.
Don't usually have those big damage outputs, but things like Ascendants for the elemental shamans
is what we constantly are talking about because it just gives you so much more damage throughput.
You need to extract every iota of damage you can get out.
You have to be exactly in the right spot.
and it's really about execution overall here for the players. So far we've seen a couple of attempts
at getting to that egg two. We've seen a few times in egg two as well where that 19.6% number
comes from. That will be motivating for Echo though. That'll be absolutely motivating is that they
were there, they did it and they did it with all alive. That's twice they proved they can do it.
The more they feel on farm but despite the more comfortable they will be because you have to imagine
guys when they do get to that egg two and it's going to happen the Orbs are not going to screw
them over. The adrenaline will be through the roof. They will be electricity running through
their veins just for what is essentially a training dummy. For all it says the purpose is the egg is
just going to sit there. They just have to avoid the quadrants that are incorrect colors for them
while still maintaining some interrupts. They'll have those on focus. So it's just a case of oh,
there's a bar press your interrupts bell and they should be relaxed and they'll bell very quickly
as you saw those ads were on like 5% they'll be eggs almost immediately. So you can full ignore
them and just allow the guys who are doing natural cleave with their single target dps to take care of them
While they just pummel into this egg as much as possible because we all want to see how low can she go
That's what we want to see
We decided to go die because there's no coming out of this by the way once we get to egg number two
It's immediate once the rebound happens bell around his back at 100 health
Then you have to do an entire phase again. That is not possible
of the game. So what is the
the point of the game? It's
really reasonable. Yeah Another
one minute 40 to two minutes is
what you're looking at after
that point, and. Maybe maybe
with another week's worth of
practice. The guys can do it,
but they really don't want to
have to you have one minute in
total to get that 100% boss
damage, and it's about half
the really slow down here. Yeah
They really do. One minute 36
you can see the light ember that
mini bird comes back alive and
that wipes the raid and that's
the problem again. It's like we
need to slow down, but you also
need to make sure you're killing
the egg. And if you're told to
slow down, maybe you're not getting
enough damage on the egg in time.
So just a bit of a tricky sticky
wicked there for echo. And this
is kind of what you expect with
a fight like this. Yeah, and one
thing for sure, like once this
dies for the top girls in the
race, the world first and was
inevitably changes it. Please
make it so people have to sit on
make it so people don't have to sit on cooldowns first try because it's the worst thing in the world
Blizzard and you know it is
Like having to be like, okay, we've done this fight now. We just have to sit and wait for our cooldowns to come back
I really think they'll make it a three-phaser
I really think they'll say we're gonna reduce the damage on everything take it to eight minutes and just do three phases
Right, just just go through the whole thing harder measures in eight minutes
You should be able to get through three three minute thirty eggs like her face to get there
And we're just gonna make it so everything doesn't one-shot you maybe even reduce because every time you go through an egg phase
You're there's a 10% healing reduction across the entirety of the raid
Maybe even crank that down put that at I know 5%
Paladins where they literally just hit rewind on the the sort of haphazard hot fix they threw at the light brown vanguard
That we saw last week is obviously liquid was burning through the raid
So quickly blizzard was like buff the things
things. That kills you and there's like eight of these debuffs now. And then when it got
to reset, they were like, okay, let's just put it back to the way we intended it to be
for everyone else. That's fine. These guys certainly are asking for nerfs right now.
What they're looking for is to actually achieve. They're mechanically not got it perfect yet.
You can see the problem there wasn't DPS. It wasn't anything else. It was just timing.
They could have had the timing. They just need to relax and the Scripes will have a
timeline of like looking at that combat time room and say, wait, wait, wait, because everything
scripted here absolutely everything is based on when these phases because you choose you choose
when he expands that is the player's choice of bringing bell around down to zero percent
is based heavily on when the convergence happens because that's when the suites of mechanics that
bell around has will begin. Lovely little nod of the not of the snout there by Tief just picking off
that extra orb they have positioned bell around in such a way that clearing those that side of
Orbs will very, very, very much prevent a lot of the ricocheting orbs from going back
into this area, reducing the risk of the raid dying.
That is the important thing.
These orbs don't just disappear when they go into the walls.
They bounce back and you can see one of those light orbs coming back.
Someone will be able to tank that.
It is Garb Gouk.
Oh, look at that.
They're going to explode.
Orbs times back.
Now he needs to put the damage into these light eggs before the rebirth comes out.
Two seconds on it.
Tons of time.
avoid convergence around 34% down to about 30 is the final bit of the cast goes out.
That's where we have been through the majority of the phases, the ones since we started to
get them clean.
Again, we see mirrors going out, dashing through all of those light orbs.
We see the ice block coming out from Garb to soak up that and this is, it's choreographed
to a degree.
You can see always in the same spots, this is where we're going, this is where the quills
will come out and because of that, it looks a lot easier than it is.
is still incredibly mechanically intense. Yeah, it's such a micro managed fight because we're looking
at about five minutes of absolutely perfect play, but I cannot stress to you how every five seconds
of this fight has been mapped over and over again. Every button pushed, every scrap of DPS. We've got
analysts on site here in Cologne, Germany, SK Magenta facility. As Shar-Fu has been looking deeply
into this, this is pre-wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Now, there it is. That actually
that's what we want to see.
These shamans now running out
with their argument. They're far
away. Our argument is look at
the map. It's so dumb. Far away.
The argument goes in order to
buff the guys up and rescue them
in immediately into massive DPS
and now we're looking for them to
absolutely destroy the egg as
much as humanly possible. Yeah,
we've seen a couple of forty
eight couple of forty seven's
really want to get below that
forty five percent mark if we
can. We are using bloodlust
here. At least echo are as
Echo are as they try and get this down 10 seconds left for about you know
There's 15% also would be huge everyone staying alive through this is big as well last couple of seconds before the rebirth
It will be a sub 47 46.2 is where I believe we ended up on the egg
Yeah, it's in massive debuffs on a very long that is on teeth
Which is less bad, but we do have one of the hunters. It's how Lenny is now gone
With those debuffs that you pick up there, which will have taken some DPS away from the healers
while they were...
Well, maybe it's getting...
Shung!
Yes!
It's unfortunate.
That debuff is not friendly.
They did manage to keep her up through the entirety of the actual egg phase where the
damage is important.
Here, if you can die, we can rescue you.
It's all good.
Now make sure not over soaking here.
Big issue there is that Gub did get taken down there.
I think he was doing a soak and wasn't quite able to survive it, which is very unfortunate.
But they're going to keep shimming across.
They will have a res coming back in about a minute.
Gubb is due to do second immunity silk which will be coming up in about 20 seconds ish
Yeah, so they're going to have to have a backup which they have planned for for sure two seconds
Probably one of the hunters with turtles
Losing a frost mage on these eggs is really bad by the way
Yeah, it's really painful
Gubb will be a minute away that's when our next combat vest comes up
Expect one of the hunters to go in with turtle one of the big immunities that we're using here
That's the reason you see so many hunters and a couple of mages in here is for the ice blocks and the turtles and
and show me at the moment, ooh.
That's going to be a GG there.
That second soak was a bit too much.
I think they might have even tried to send Perfecto in with a cheap death or something like that
in order to cover it, but every cog in the wheel,
and by that I refer to the players, is vital.
You are assigned to do a task,
and that task is not really something we can do without,
especially because one thing that I found interesting,
and I hadn't been checking this because I assumed it didn't work this way,
Is the assignments of course, it's not perfectly even every time. Yes, the tanks are always separate
But the rest of them don't have to be it's not time. Yeah. Yeah exactly
Which is unusual you'd think that would be an obvious thing and I never even thought to look into it
It's like no sometimes it's 11 and 9 and that means that one team just has less socas. Let's deal with it
Well, I'm out as Alex would say deal with it and get on with your life
That is the nature of the beast in this fight. It was a not decision by Blizzard not to make it just 50-50
But they did not they chose instead to give it a little bit of
chaos, you know a little more chaos in what is a relatively chaotic fight
This is the epitome of the no add-on change this fight. I'm all here for I love it
There's so much here that would have been crushed by we go easy. Yeah, it's just all you go here
You do this you soak this you go here
Like I really like the fact that it feels like there's more player agency
I think that's what blizzard are aiming for Alex is standing by at the Archon analysis desk
I'm not here for any particular bit. I'm here to answer questions and try not to reveal any sensitive information
Understandable, so if you got any questions about that curious of who exactly is pumping that egg
I just names are you I can give you a vibe. I'll give you a vibe of egg pumpiness
Yeah, I'll go look at it up if you could also see over the last say
25 pulls what is our most common cause of death? Because before I think it's like maybe a misoak or
something but now I'm wondering if perhaps we're just missing void because people are trying to get
an extra gcd out or if the orbs are getting in a little bit more. Two of them I can tell you
are because the egg's been hit by orbs. Yes I can tell you two of them are because of that because
we watch those and they're not fun. They're crucially unfortunate timings on two egg two
transitions that we've seen where Beloran has dive-bumped directly into those
orbs and just had a one angry egg stare back in from the void you look deep
within the void and an egg stares back he's a nasty easter I mean the irony of
it being Easter and these guilt I'm really worried we're gonna be
progressing lure in three days and then Beloran's just gonna rise from the
ashes you've got to reproach let's go again I've actually just had a
Now Alex is here. I now realize that Alex was actually doing some premonition work.
Because did you know that Blizzard would be cooking this egg like you baked that bread with
an egg in it? Oh, true. Were you representing what was going on? I see into the future I knew that
Illyria would be shit. And hopefully I know that Lauren's going to be awesome. Yeah, indeed. New
best for method, by the way,
now surpassing liquid at 42.2%.
That is good to see is this
competition is hotting up between
the three top four runners doing
work on this big bird. There we
go. Convergence number two. Huge
amount of damage here that the
raid takes, by the way, should
not be downplayed how much effort
the healers are doing. The three
healing. Yeah, this isn't like the
old days, guys. This isn't like
over three healing, but all your
and heal everybody and all that kind of stuff and the enhancement shamans could have transfer tons of healing you know
The Ellie shamans into healing for the raid those days are long ago. You do see those stove when he's out there with Mastin
He's popping chain heel. Yeah
Sad it is
Every GCD you can put into either healing yourself or damaging the boss is a GCD that will not need to be used on that
that second egg phase which is where we are trying to get there.
They're getting higher and higher and higher.
They're getting cleaner.
And this is the thing.
This is where you find your extra cooldowns, where you find that one extra bit of spell.
You know what I mean?
It's dangerous.
It's good, but also bad, in some ways, because obviously their popping cooldowns at the pool,
so that's why we're basing things on the sentence, because it's when the cooldown is coming back.
It's back now.
Off they go to the races to try and demonstrate how much power they've got.
one thing that will fire echo up is a really good egg one.
All these are not nice orbs.
Nope, they're fine umbrella corporation
representing on the floor there.
As they get back into position,
nobody taking an excess debuff so far, which is great.
That means the healers can pump as well.
52% as we can do, 49, 47, keep going, 46, 45.
Nice, 45, so it's 44 points something probably.
This is the best egg one they've had for a while
and we might in fact,
all just traveling into the side of Beloran there. Really unfortunate. I think they were
so locked in. They just ignored it. She's so sad. Yeah, that is, uh, that is the problem
when you have a pool like that, where you're like, Oh, oh, this could be something. And
then it's just immediate. Nope, it is nothing. That's what Beloran does to you. It is so
quick to punish you and so complete in its punishment. It's not a, Hey, have a debuff
that now needs to be dealt with by the healers for the next minute and a half. It's, Hey,
dead. That was a great egg one. It was a really good egg. It's a really good egg one.
Really good, but not enough. Is that anything for us Alex? Yeah, looking at the overall deaths,
I can't exactly get last 25 pulls, but kind of give a like kind of a loose vibe. It's actually
very varied, which is more surprising than I thought. The top killer of all of us though,
is the void light rupture, which is when you soak the wrong colour at all. I'm removing anything
past the first death just to let you know. So this is purely just the person who dies first,
anything after that, the log is not showing anything, but yeah it seems that the majority of
our deaths are down to that. Otherwise it's dives, rebirth, which is when the adds come back,
as well as tankbusters and quills. It kind of like peeps out at that point, but yeah, it's
mainly people soaking the wrong color at all, and most of the time that's because they're doing a
hero play, fairness. They're doing it because it has to happen, so no shade being thrown.
No, especially because there's some very awkward color swaps that happen while the orbs are sort
So you have to like bunch to you'll see the more crowd together as the course whoppers
because I'm going to go. Yeah, the OBS are also converging on your position. And it's
like, am I doing it? Are you doing it? I don't know. Okay, we're all holy. I mean, we're
waiting for the Void OBS. Oh, dear. Yeah, we saw it in the egg one there where the light
quadrant was very small and was on the opposite side to the light wall that was about to hit
the bus and someone did run round and I'm not sure if they did take the debuff and then
took a lot of damage, but you need people to take those hero plays in those moments because if they don't
You're just dead and then you have the lack of we cause being like you're the one immediately saying you're the one that should do
The hero play go do it
So there's so much more communication happening in the spots
And I think you see on the surface and we see quite a lot of communication already happening on this box
Yeah, I've also got the damage roughly very loosey. This is a very scary thing to share
So I could be very lucid this don't show any logs. Give us a rough
I'm literally hiding it from the OBS as well. It can't even accidentally show this one off
Obviously, we know that the charlons are popping off big time
We're funneling tons of damage into them via the evokers. That's also brought up the evokers damage a fair amount as well
And on top of that, you know, your hunters are doing quite well
And yeah, otherwise it kind of everyone else is kind of losing the same. I prefer not to comment on
Oh, Alex!
Hey, he wins a Trophic Poison.
OK, wait a second.
OK, a Trophic Poison is a damage reduction
when he hits the boss, correct?
Yeah.
If everything one-shots you.
I don't think Mirage wants to hear this conversation.
Mirage has been in the grave far too often today.
If everything one-shots you and you just got to play clean,
yes, there's a lot of damage as well.
But I wonder if I mean that will be a conversation that's been had amongst the echo analysts and they're saying hey
Yes, it 3% I think is a traffic poison if I remember correctly 3% of damage reduction on the boss is
That actually affecting whether or not we die
It's also a pointing out that
Generally speaking perfecto doing very well across the course of the fight. Okay, so so he's still doing well in terms of damage
Yeah, is he doing as well as an elemental shaman? I refuse to comment on such this
I guess actually that is that's an unfair. You try to bait me
Because the Ellie shamans are getting the what's the buff from the orcs? Oh, I've been Mike
I've been they are getting my right. So the question should be is he doing as well as a marksmanship hunter?
And if he's not do we take out perfecto because that adds a turtle and
Adds the marksmanship hunter damage. I think they probably checked this and decided I'm gonna believe that I'm the first person to think of it
And I'm sorry, Perfecto, if you get kicked.
Oh, this belleran is very low, and the void eggs are not.
Chill, dudes. This is a bad... this is not good.
It's early. It's early to say the least.
And, I mean, 146. 146, 145 is kind of where we want it.
It was early until they managed to really put the brakes down to the floor.
Watch bird go. There we go.
We go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we go, we go.
Every GCD matters here.
So that's a huge amount of damage loss.
That is a sad, sad moment is to see Stove go down there.
I assume he maybe was in the wrong area.
I think actually he came down and it was the big pie
and he was like, oh no.
Cause he's actually modified to where the rescue landing was
to actually drop him faster so he could DPS quicker by a GCD.
So this will be missing that Ellie damage, yeah, 49%
just to give you a kind of contrast
as to what it's like with an Ellie shaman
and what it's like without.
Shamilik wasn't on the meters before that egg phase started
and now he's leading the meters by 30K.
So it's a huge amount of funnel damage in through stove.
Shamilik's topping, you know,
pain suppression is on and sacrifice
coming onto Shamilik there to keep him alive.
These Hunters are doing so much, by the way.
Not only are they running around,
they're turtling against walls
because there's invisible orbs coming in,
they're sacrificing the players going in for the soaks.
They're often so far away from the actual action
in order to do the jobs they're doing.
If you keep a little eye on your mini map,
you will see just a little green dot go wandering off
in order to do some big work and get things done.
They're soaking things, they're doing massive damage.
What a what a solid time to be a hunter. We thought Vanguard was going to be the peak hunter play, but this has done even more.
Yeah, four hunters as well, and it's very rare that you see that on two bosses across the course of nine.
It's a huge amount of work being done by marksmanship specifically so far.
Spend did go down relatively early in this phase. We have another res in 50 seconds time, but that is our warlock damage being lost out on.
The void edit coming out. We'll see how they deal with the void convergence three in a few moments.
usually they hit it around that 20% mark so still a little bit of time to go
before we get to that. From there we have the quills, we have that donut of light
putting its sprinkles across the raid so he's gonna tank up one of those orb
soda falls to the floor, the res. I don't know Spender, we need to get enough that
we're not gonna bring soda back up. It's nice you know I mean we're not looking
for a kill here, I wonder if the play might be let's try and do Convergence 4
because there's conversions three and they still have 17% left to do to embellaren so are they going to actually try and move here
And make some adjustments because the soaps coming in they're gonna have to deal with this. There's no I think they might be bidding these
I don't think anybody run into it. Yeah, they're down they go
As they get the res on soda, so it's they're gonna keep playing a little five percent even on Bellar and here comes that wall of
Ops, so they've been going for so long that that's not an issue
They do get to egg 2, but it's keeping themselves alive here.
They keep interrupting these ads here.
They do not want them turning into, yeah, the cast went through.
They do not want to keep, they do not want them turning to eggs.
Here's egg 2, though!
Echoes made it!
Yay!
And so a 450 transition is good.
450 is when they killed the boss, then we have the rebirth coming out.
This is not going to be a new best HP.
Everyone's just going to die pretty quickly.
But that was a test to see where can we transition so the ricochets from the orbs that we have left alive
I'm gonna cause too many issues mirror saying alive for a long time
But I'm afraid he's not going to be able to do forty nine point three percent of the boss by himself
You know what just try harder mirrors. I don't understand the buttons harder man. It's your attitude
Mm-hmm, right you giving up before we start
Let's see what happens to stove though going in there very unusual to seem die
obviously he's off on his own so we didn't quite see it from RPLV. In he goes...
Oh, he just leaves.
That was a choice.
Yeah, those are the small misplays that happen.
The small misplays that happen, you know? Just walks out of it, gets hit by the quadrant.
There's the Deeper Funner. It happens, you know?
I love the cheeky smile of like...
Yeah, I mean everything I do is filmed so there's no getting out of this one. It's not like I was stood in it, bro
Like I don't know. I got snap shot
No, you know the logs do not lie stove, but yeah, there's no getting out that one. I don't know. Why did you do that?
I don't know I've been raiding for 13 hours today, man and for 13 hours every day for the last two weeks and two days
give me a second. Sometimes it's the correct answer. And it's as a raid leader. Sometimes
you have to accept that is like, you look slightly ran in and ran back out again. I
did do that. Why did you do that? I don't know. And I won't do it again. Okay, that's
fine. Let's move on. That's fine. Let's move on. You grab the tablet. Please no more chicken
egg meat. I don't see any chicken egg ones thus far.
Caloster came in with $10
Preach what happened to Roger's theme song I believe in Roger Brown from the last race
They won't let me use it. Why not cuz it's copyrighted. Oh
But it's so it's so good. We could sing it now. Say his name and he appears. I
Believe in Roger Brown
Understandable
It was so good every time Roger takes to the green screen, but we're a bit late for it as well
Yeah, it's split o'clock. Yeah, no more splits. Hopefully for the echo players eggs
Ordinarily bad jokes came in with five dollars at these egg puns have me cracking up
I tried to make a pun, but I scrambled it walking on eggshells
I was two and a half thousand dollars got to be yoking me two and a half thousand dollars from unlocking your amazing adventure
Which you've been putting excess amount of works in and it's entirely possible egg puns are gonna carry across the fish
I don't want it to happen that way
Is it like, does it feel as if though Blizzard sent a nerf to Bellaround now and it was like
Egg Health reduced by 50% and it just died, it's like, I didn't want this.
This is not how I wanted this to happen.
Yeah.
Can you imagine?
That was the Raziga battle.
Yeah, that was the Raziga battle.
It is safe to say that because of the time, we're not going to be seeing any nerfs tonight.
Nope.
I don't think so.
This is great news because if a nerf was coming, typically it would have been about an hour
ago that Blizzard would have sent it.
I will say that's usually without time. They like seven time change
Already though. Yeah, they do it at 7 p.m. Our time, but wouldn't that be 8 p.m. Our time now?
It's still half an hour past
You should have checked these mango lover with $10 and may you Sarah bless our boys may they be reached by our voice
F in bird this chicken spawn may he not live till next door and why can't I limit I had more?
I didn't realize there was food salad. I just didn't see it. I'm sure it was
correct. You know, it didn't have what pineapple? Oh, pineapple actually eats the inside of your mouth.
All right. Yeah, you know, I've got three more to get to quickly, Alex, before you give us something else.
The jailer came in with one dollar. Oh, no. Hello medic. It's me the jailer. Did you know VC3 has been planned since walkthrough three?
Oh my god, don't worry guys. Not play will never set on any of the action as they get in there. Very quickly. $10 for a medic.
Lannis Morissette.
Wiping on an egg during Easter is not irony, Mike. It's a bad coincidence. Trust me. I've learned by now clown.
I guess yeah, like
We can sing that but we can't sing the Roger Brown song my voice is not copyrighted musical talent
They kill it now
Yeah, let's go send it boys. Let's bring this home and go to bed with a first world first for echo under our belts
That's what we want to see. Let's give a big egg to as they get slouchier and slouchier in those secret lab chairs
mirrors demonstrating a
Quality prop warrior played at peak efficiency. Good. Always looks very upright. I'm always very impressed by gobs. That's a professional
Yeah, yeah, he's a professional gamer if you're fortnight gaming 17 hours a day
You've got to stay upright, right?
It's true.
You've got to get those buildings all the time.
That's what the building is for, right?
Like, as high as possible.
As we see the soaps going out into the corner,
immunity in the middle.
It's Perfecto and Gubb who are assigned to that one.
Yes, indeed.
They do number two, and now we're
looking for that sweet, sweet, sweet transition.
What Echo needs now is a really good egg one, genuinely,
because that'll fire them up.
It's like, ooh, they need that kind of egg one.
Like, yes, boys.
42%, so I think we're going to take that one.
42 would be creamy right now.
That would be a Cabri's cream egg.
That would be a wonderful kind of surprise. That would be a great yoke. That would be a perfectly cooked yoke runny, but cooked
Right. Yeah
Oh, sorry soda almost going down there nice beams heading out because damage is stopped now
There's no need to do anything. This needs to save our resources for what's going in
You can see his bar is nice and full and now it's time to get ready for big pump
Shaman's on the other side with an auger Volcker who's off in the middle of nowhere not even on the minimap by the way
That's so far away.
It's off in Narnia right now.
There you go.
Let's see what damage we can get down to.
Obviously, still have to do the mechanic here.
If you're hit by a quadrant that is not your color,
you get a massive dot on you.
About 2 million damage over the next minute.
That has to be healed up by the healer team
that is already under immense stress.
Because even if you're hit by the quadrant that is assigned to you,
you still take a ton of damage
so they have to really pump out the heals over time
by a second left of it.
Okay boys, let's see if we can get through. Okay calm down. They need to calm down. They need to calm down. That is massive. No, please I beg. Okay chill out Echo. Nobody's stressed.
Everything is fine guys. It just might be worth all tapping back in because they're about to lock the hell out.
the game. We're going to go
to the next round. We're going
to be doing clockwise soaks
starting in the southern
portion of the map. Maybe
northern portion of the map
is starting somewhere on the
map. We're going to go with
these clockwise soaks. Void
coming out as well. That's
tank buster soda did fall to
the four, but we were asking
with our one cost him, but
no left. Yeah, it's just a
mile away from the rest of
the team as we see those
quills being fired out well
blocked by the raiders. No
one standing too close. The
that's the only way to get
away from where Bellaron has
been moved across to. Yeah,
you can see Jinji there making
sure not to do any unnecessary
soaks at this point. Great
play by him. I know many of you
would have been tempted is that
I could just pick this up. My
health is full. It's fine, but
that all was not going to touch
Bellaron, and that's all that
matters. You just don't want
that to happen. Nice clear going
off by teeth on the right hand
side as second soap goes in.
Everyone stay calm. Get your ice
blocks done. Boom done so to
stays alive with a sacrifice
nice and smooth for echo. What we're looking for now guys, we had a great egg one is a really nice transition into egg two.
This is the big struggle part that they've had several times and we've messed this up twice.
We want this to go perfect. You can see a little dip in by Stove there picking up that holy orb and clearing it out for Bellarant.
They baited the donut nicely. It's not going to be a problem for them, but we are coming up to the next big convergence.
It's happening now and there's an odd coming in. I got to wait for the color change. Yeah, which costs solar
10 seconds 10 seconds for the rest. They should be able to get him up in time. If that bell around is very low
Yeah, 10% on it. We've got the ads coming in as well from at this avoid like dive
We need to interrupt them as soon as they come down as avoid em
But coming down it towards the middle of the screen get it pulled in but Mason and Fraggo do go down to Millie already
I'm sorry Charmy already on the floor and that will be a white
really solid up to that point,
but you can see how quickly things fall apart.
That last 10 seconds. That last 10 seconds is just an outrageous period of time because the guys cannot commit anything to it. They need it for the egg.
So it's a real case of crawling across that finish line as much as possible.
They're all sat there. They've all got these DPS cooldowns that could finish that phase in a heartbeat and they just cannot do it. It has to go into the egg.
So it feels like forever. You'll see Bella and it like 7% is going 6.
You know, it's very much just bare minimum damage and any of you played midnight will know when you're playing outside your DPS cooldowns.
It's a horror show. It feels so, so bad. It feels like you're playing an actual slime. Alex, you got anything to show us?
Yes, I do if I was not muted myself there. You guys have been talking a lot about the augmentation of Ocas as we're going into the egg.
And I thought I could show you a bit. I will still be from so spot of view, but this is a particularly good one because you can see exactly how they're doing it.
doing it because it's slightly smarter than even I thought on top of it, which is really cool. So
if we just jump over to the analyst desk here, this is going into the intermission. You can see
of course that the Void Light Convergence is going on. Check out how our evokers are going off in
two separate directions here. We're going to be having Fraggo head off all the way over there.
We're going to be having Macyn head off all the way over there. And we're going to have our two
Charmons in this spot. The reason being is that not only are these guys going to be 100 yards from
the raid, they're going to be 100 yards from each other, gang. So you're getting all of the buffs
that. You're going to be able
to see that play out here.
I'm just let the footage run
for this bit, but the hunters
are just sat on the far side of
the room. The two evokers, they
teleport their way in, and then
they're going to grip them in,
and you're going to do an
absolute ton of damage. So good
stuff there. Okay, well, we're
back in. Echo goes again on your
feet. Soldiers, let's get ready
for action as Echo wants to just
get that egg to real nice.
If possible, at least just to
just to test that metal against the egg.
You know, that's what Echo is going to be looking to do now
is a nice, as the clock does tick here in Cologne,
they're going to be looking to just get some nice progress.
It's been a while since we had that 19.6,
it's been a couple of hours,
and they've been so, so perilously close
to having a wonderful transition there
where they've moved some cooldowns around
and we should see a nice advancement
on that HP of Bellaron.
The actual real HP, which is the egg HP,
not this fake HP, the stupid birds go boo.
There's definitely people tuning in being like,
oh, that's so close, 35% right now.
Oh, you need to get it down another 20 to have a new PB.
But yeah, as you say, Bellaryn,
the birds HP doesn't really matter
apart from the fact that you want to align it going down
with those big CDs so you can really pump the damage
into the egg.
We see these void embers being pulled back in.
Those little athletes need to be interrupted by someone
that shares a color with them.
So the light edicts on that top one
to be interrupted on both of
them. They'll then go into eggs
that needs to be killed before
this rebirth time. It goes off.
That's a 15 second cast. So the
raiders do have a bit of time to
deal with them, but they're trying
to delay it as much as possible
because they don't want to
cleave onto Bellarun. About 12
seconds from now is usually where
we see the move into the next
phase. Both those rebirths are
very close to going off, but
they're going off in time, and
Bellarun will be delayed for
three, two, one, taken down now,
and that is actually a little
is actually a little bit more delay than we have been seeing going to the 150 mark.
Yeah, they're going to clear some of these orbs just to make sure Bellarant doesn't
crash down into this.
Ooh, it's going to be close.
There it is.
Our stove is not getting quite into the right position there.
We're going to have to make the best use of it, but we're likely to not see that 42 on
the egg that we saw because it requires every perfect globalist.
Mastin just go down as well going into this.
This is a bit of a scrappy egg one from Echo as you see Frago getting blasted as well,
to help soak the orbs. Nothing wrong with that though, they're totally allowed to do that.
Scriper's pointed out, yes, the tanks will help you, but it's not illegal in Scripe's words,
is what he calls it, if it's absolutely do not do that, is to help them out and make sure those
orbs are clear. But they're going to be going, so 50-50%. Yeah, that's not going to work if they
have to do this again without Blubbers. No, no, no, not at all. Schimily also had the debuff on him
from tanking the wrong spot. Stooders, look at his health. And you can see his health, just tick,
Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.
Mastien still on the floor,
as he hasn't been unable to be res,
we've used that combat res already,
so it's a difficult phase to get through.
Obviously, losing that augmentation, buffing,
for shamans as well, not the easiest,
but they want to get as much practice as they can
into this phase too.
Perhaps even just see a second egg,
a clean second egg again.
Yeah, okay, well, yeah, this is a wipe.
This is a wipe.
Unfortunate for Echo, yeah, there's Scrappypull.
for Echo there. Unfortunate for them. And as far as we've been told, they may go again.
I believe that may be the final pull of Echo for tonight, unfortunately. They did say they
were going to 10pm, but I think they may have judged it unworthy of their time, which is
a bit of a shame.
It is a bit of a shame, but also a 100% get the saying, hey, we're not killing it tonight.
Let's go to bed. Let's wake up. Let's reset.
Still so early to reset. We've still got Liverpool.
Yeah. And it's still only Thursday.
been very strict on this as well and I'm sure you are as well. It's like go on please get it but
we're not there yet it's Thursday it's Thursday yeah relax okay obviously they wanted to claim this
and put this under their belts uh and maybe yank that world first away from liquid I'm sure they
will go to bed thinking well liquid's probably gonna kill it in the night maybe um that's okay
we still got Lyra to go we still got a Dane hand uh liquid on their third day now this is the end of
echoes second raid day of the reset for a real shame they did so well today so so well and
it's really unfortunate but they are going to commit to their sleep schedule and say it's not
worth it it's not worth it guys going till 10 11 12 o'clock not on a Thursday and not on the penultimate
boss yeah especially since the expectation is lower that is this week we both really wanted it
We both got so excited when they got to that clean base.
I'm here all night, let's go!
But like, especially with the expectation the boss is going to die this week, you want to be slowly moving your schedule.
You don't want to exhaust yourself today. It's Thursday. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.
You have all of those days left to try and kill both Bellerin and Lura.
Before we go though, if you do want to be as comfy as the raiders at home, you can go and buy some Echo merch from merch.com.
Yeah, the new jerseys are out. The white jerseys, finally.
There's the white jerseys, there's the black jerseys, there's blankies, I don't know if
he's actually on the merch store and if they're not, well I am just there, let's rag about
the fact I have a blankie and you don't.
Neres has ones, you ordered one a while ago, you can get them yourself.
And they obviously of course want to give a massive shout out, I know some of you are
waiting for that big course there boss drop but it will be coming, don't you worry about
it because we'll be back probably 6, 7am tomorrow to do it all again and push further forward.
course there secret lab display G2A shakes and fidgets and of course the show in the morning
we'll be starting with G G brews always fun to have some G G brews a competitor also providing some
wonderful monitors for Skype he's been using all those bridges as much as possible gameplay so
he's getting in hyper I mean I'm sure he's the spread cheese out of Garth also providing all
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their wavling technology is really cool. Rested XP if you want to level an elemental shaman
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echo discount and then Archon as well. Which is now getting used finally. We've now got
reasons to use the Archon now. We achieve reasons to look at things.
There's more of that coming, I'll tell you. It's really great to be here with all of you.
I want to give a shout out for Gains for Love as well. We are $22,500 raised so far,
which is just absurd, I appreciate it.
Is there any we missed before we disappeared?
I did check before we rounded up and yes, I did not see any more.
Superb, I want to make sure we've got one.
We'll be back with GG Bruce with the morning show.
Echo will go and get a good night's rest.
They put in a solid effort today.
They really did.
That would take it away. They made huge progress, huge strides,
and they will go to bed knowing they did well.
They obviously wanted to kill. We all wanted to kill,
but that kill will have to be better.
But there will be more Mythic Proc tomorrow.
Oh, that's all that's left.
be with you first thing in the morning guys have a great evening thank you for being with
us and NA have a great day and for the rest of the world anytime we're in be good we'll
see you tomorrow bye guys
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How exciting! We finally have some mythic bosses with tea!
Oh my god, it was so good!
We've been waiting for this!
We have been waiting for this so long, and it is so nice to finally have some, so nice to finally see them go at it.
And it's so nice to actually see them do good on it.
Yeah, they've been battling their way through. You can kind of see liquid and echo.
I'm suffering over my words today.
Broody, you know, getting through a lot of falls.
You can see a lot more falls than the Lyria took.
But this is a lovely morning show, our lovely morning bruise,
where we get caught up on what's on the agenda for today,
get a little recap of what the gillips have been up to.
Yeah, so we can, you know, have another discussion of what's in store for today.
Yeah, I mean, today's probably going to be a little mythic prog.
I think the boys are getting slowly very inside the raid
But we will see what they do because there has been some shenanigans from the Americans never ever
Never shenanigans in the race or there's always some shenanigans. They are free healing the fight, which is
Quite well considering what the fight is
There's a lot of healing. There's a lot of like oopsie type shenanigans stuff happening
I kind of mentioned that extra DPS kind of being nice though because we almost saw that some of us had some rough pushes and you know all of these things so
Might actually be good. It might actually if you can survive the thing, but more importantly, I think it's like a massive
Strath difference echo since very set on like we'll probably have to play three acts, you know
And on the third act we're gonna kill it and then we're gonna be victorious
Liquid feels like they kind of said like screw that we don't leave one out like
We don't even want to know what happens after the second egg because they are trying to two-agg it right
We're trying to get you can see it on the meters
That is not the difference of the other sort of second egg and there's a damage on it. That is one egg
That is them nuking the egg down from 100 to 44.9 pretty much for the five impressive
Which is pretty impressive
However, this is my blood loss and love us is the big amp. This might also be with potions, which is another really really big thing because
Because if they two aggots, they'll probably be around like maybe 5 minutes in the fight,
like they won't be much later.
Which means you can't get a second pot in there, you won't have lost.
So 45% from that moment on is hard.
Like that is, you know, you're gonna see the aggot like 6-7% left over.
I think if you can manage to get the aggot on towards like the 48% mark, it seems very
feasible.
But also, they are a good guild.
They might have this mess out, they might be like this is fine.
There's some cheeky shenanigans going on, maybe someone is using some cuddling on pool and then they're gonna be there additionally.
So I'm not sure how this story is gonna end, but I like to write it.
It's mathematically possible, well, that's all to be seen.
That is what remains to be seen, but it's also one of those things that's like, the boss is hard, I don't expect nerves, but it wouldn't surprise me either.
And then if there's like a cheeky little HP left on the egg, the tactic is really good.
But also, I'm more interested in, let's say you three healers, but you don't do it in strats.
Like, how important was it for a healer? We often sell all healers to a lot of healing, but can you, you know, can you regular it?
Like, originally when we acted regular on, which is probably like, don't notify me when this kind of happens.
That fight seemed insane, right? Like, it looked insane, insane in terms of the HPS requirement and people are constantly dying even with four healers.
Healers or how much ever tree heal it, they did manage, you know, it took them one pull, good pull to get there, and then the fight was gone.
Can you, can it be here? Maybe? If the edge die a little bit faster, it might be, you know, good, you maybe get like a real tank of deep gasoline, like something like a warlock.
You have a bit more clear for the birds. And also to some degree kind of allows you to make some more mistakes, because like let's say you get through the, these third bird phase.
So like you've done the second act, the acts is like 30% HP, then even like 20, you know, let's say.
You don't have to get into the third act, that's like an important thing.
Now you can get into the third act with 3 DPS, that's 4 DPS, and still make it at that point.
So, you know, the dives have come in at that point, you could just sec, you know, you could just get them out.
As far as you really can, don't have to deal with those bulls, give all of that nice space.
So, so now you guys might advise even more, we'll see. It's gonna be an interesting day, and I'm excited.
Yeah, what's also interesting, you know, to see the two guilds kind of take different approaches to the fight itself
Is also the different gearing strategies that both guilds have been using
So that's probably one of the most interesting parts of the race so far for me
Is that liquid and echo have geared their characters very differently. They're both taken completely different approaches to gearing
This tier. So with echo echo
There's an achievement if you get every single slots. I think 266 you get achievement
Or more then you get an achievement and once you have this achievement
It means that on any other character you have a crest discount where it's 50% reduced crests used to upgrade
So what echo opted to do was to get this achievement on all characters. So they
really map this out there was so much work that went into this last week this
is where you really see those analysts you really see all of the planning that
goes on behind the scenes they managed to map it out every single character
getting specific pieces of gear that wasn't necessarily an upgrade or this
just so that every single one of those characters could get this achievement so
that on their main they can up they can send more upgrades because then you have the 50% discounted crests. So they have
juiced mains because of this crest discount, which was just
incredible to see that kind of fit into it.
That's your perfecto. Of course it's still RNG what year drops, so they may not have been able to, you know, get the crest
achievement. There was so much math that went into this. They were right. They had to spend their crests very
specifically in order to be able to achieve this. Liquid, however, opted to Gear 2 mains and this
is what's going to be really interesting going into these final two bosses to see which kind of
really pays off because now Liquid, all of their characters, all of their players have two main
characters that they've geared differently as in their alt, let's say, has more targeted
bis gear as opposed to just trying to throw away gear to get this achievement. Yeah.
and waste all their crests, not waste but you spend the crest to get the achievement as opposed to
what's mathematically best dps wise. Yeah, I think with SectorCase like a really good in the
sense that because you have two mains and they're the exact same character and like maybe it's like
you know 0.1, 0.2% difference here and there, it's two characters and that's important for one thing,
the Phantus. So they have managed to go into Belran and been like Phantus and everyone found this
this is Beloran and then an echo that's more of a charge right like you might
be like oh we might not want this but you perfectly wouldn't send too many
funders on Beloran because those characters might be used on Lura instead
and then the end result is kind of like what I talked about yesterday which is I
think overall you know liquid is going to have a slight advantage on Beloran in
that sense because the funds is very good echo will have to see how the most
goes. Hopefully Echo in the end result is going to have a little bit higher Iron Level
on Lura because the mains that they do have should be a little bit higher.
Yeah, so Echo is kind of playing for Lura to have as much Iron Level as possible for
that fight. And yeah Liquid do have an advantage where they can send their Vantage runes on
one main and have a comp for Beloran and then have a whole different potential group
of mains that they can run another Vantage on Lura.
They could run the exact same comp that they did on Beloran on Lura and Fonders Boat which
to something I can't do. So that's an advantage of that thing. Hopefully Echoes, whichever
characters do play, Laura, might be, you know, we're talking like, hold an item level to
like one item level stronger, but that obviously across 20 characters does have an impact.
We'll see how it plays out. I'm very excited for the race. Obviously, Liquid has gone up
to 92 pulls. I think they might still be pulling right now.
Yeah, maybe so. But it is very interesting, not only looking at how the guilds kind of
tackle the bosses slightly differently, but also, yeah, the gearing kind of differences
between the teams going into this year. We've been keeping an eye on it. It's very interesting.
But this is what I love with the race. I love seeing how the guilds kind of strategize their way
through the gearing, the bosses themselves, and even kind of optimizing other systems that you
have sometimes, whether that's quick rep grind or quick leveling, you know, the whole way through,
especially with a season one of a brand new expansion, you do have to factor in the moment
and everything like that and like having characters, for example. Whereas when we,
in heroic week when we were looking at how many characters the three guilds actually with method
as well how many characters they leveled it was a huge difference across all three teams as well
some some focusing on certain classes some focusing on just having numbers especially um with
skane he like 800 character he doesn't i might be exaggerating
46 of them
as less close to 800 might as well be
yeah very much very much hopefully there you know
Yeah, so it is really interesting. But we are starting our day here in EU. So I think
Liquid are still pulling your right and their closest is that 44.9% mark. They are getting
to that second egg. I believe, have they seen the second egg? I don't know. Well, perhaps it's the
second, second phase. I was calling every bird phase a phase and then every egg and intermission.
I don't know if that's correct or not, that's how I was understanding it.
I don't think you're incorrect. I don't know if they saw the second egg.
It was the second phase coming out of the egg.
Yeah, yeah, so I mean they will definitely have seen the second phase, right?
Like they've gone through the first egg, they've seen the second phase one.
I don't know if they saw the second egg, I didn't get too much time setting off the scouted.
I would imagine they could have, I have no idea if they did, it probably wasn't with a whole bunch of people, you know?
They might have gotten there with like a handful of people alive and seen it
Which that's one thing one thing that we haven't seen it all yet obviously is the first phase one
Which?
Consider that the second phase one is already harder. I'm terrified about that one
also all the excited
But yeah, only one way to find out you know, yeah, but how awesome is this fight?
I mean we were asking for this
We were asking for bosses that kind of really tested the race toward first skill
So it's not just us they were asking for it as well all of this prep all of this time
They want bosses that are gonna test them. That's what they're playing for. They want to be challenged
They want these difficult fights and we very much do have one
So that's probably you know, we're gonna have a lot of valorant today most likely
But we do have a menu as well for you know what we've bought for all of us
We can have a little look at that.
We can have a little bit of lunch and a little dinner.
I think you know I've been really enjoying the different.
It is day 16, so it's day 15, you know, small adjustments.
The days are all blaring and so on.
So we have Jules Kishu, Kishu.
For lunch, we have mushroom risotto.
and then dessert we have a salad bowl
seems the king is back
a lot of fruities in there and a dim dim we have a cock
Herbie Hummus and dead Bella and bowl
oh yes we are summoning the kill with Julia I love that
we're eating birds
no chicken I'm not for chicken but
the rest of the birds
what?
is chicken not a bird?
i feel like
i mean okay
if you get me like a random like little birdie outside
i would be like
what's wrong with you
if you get me a chicken i would be like
aww
right, okay
i feel like there's a substantial difference
like if i ask for like
oh i'm gonna go get some fish
and give me like
a battered fried fish
and i would be like
you know, you know, fish and chips
i would be like that makes sense
if you get me a shark i would be quite surprised
I'm gonna say yeah, I mean my favourite animal is fish and when people ask me what fish I just say anything in the ocean
You know like jellyfish
Would a goldfish go in the ocean? Could it survive there?
Anything in the water
Okay, so it doesn't have to be the ocean
No
Yeah we just need to make these important
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Which is something I comment on every single time, because I really enjoy the way that they really avidly watch the race,
and they're always chatting.
Something I point out, because I just really love that, because it kind of makes this whole community event feel even more of a community event.
When we work with these amazing people who genuinely love WoW and genuinely love the race, that just makes it even sweeter.
It also just makes it so easy for them to partner standpoint, because like, sometimes it's hard to explain to partners,
which I obviously do for my job, what the race exactly is, or how it works, or where the hype hormones are.
Gigi Bruce knows, right? Like he's just like, oh yeah, we're expecting this, and he's like, yep, I expected that, that sounds great.
And he's just engaged with me, it's absolutely fantastic from all sides, including my job side, that's part of what I thought of it.
Yeah, that's something I really much love, but it does look like we have a raid forming for Bellerin, can you see that?
Yeah!
And I see what I supply with my little eye.
Yeah, it seems to be three heaters in the raid that last raid spot yet to be filled. Oh, I know where that's going to be
I spy with my little eye. We are missing a zero
We are indeed which would make two warlocks. Five. Yep five years ago
Scribe walk over to several and he's like
And he said oh never mind I was wrong it's a match several bands get screwed. Oh never mind
he's back he might be back in but yeah those guys go way back and Sarah was probably like
I would say arguably one of the best players I've ever got to play with
so Ruth too far away to not see Sarah in but there could be some synanigans happening where
maybe overslapped maybe not maybe he's doing some quick amp loss for some quick upgrades maybe not
maybe they're just using span because the characters are closed and then span gets
offended as this guy maybe not yeah I mean it's interesting to see you know what characters
might be in on Dalaran that won't be in on Lura, whether we're gonna have the four hunters
for example. So in that case if they're not gonna be in on Lura they will then you know
potentially Vantas this fight but the thing is it's quite risky with the Vantas because
what if Lura does require multiple hunters so they may make the prediction of hey we
need a slight you know damage increase because of course the Vantas rune or the Vantas does
give you 5% versatility which increases your damage done but also reduces your damage taken,
it can be a very strong buff across the raid, so if they spend it on Bellar and they're not
going to have it for Lura. Yeah you have to be very careful, it's like out of all the
sorts of play power strength the Fandas is the one that goes kind of lost, like I would be more
comfortable standing crest than standing a Fandas personally. Fandas is just such an important
damn important choice so we will see what happens and we'll see what they come up with um
but talking to bellarun though how much are you enjoying this fight because i've been you know
very excited about it but i haven't asked how you're finding it so i think my opinion kind of
lies in like how stm felt as well which is uh i mean obviously he's not in anymore such because
the tree healing um after his opinion of it wasn't yesterday the following and i quote the boss is
going great kaboom and that's kind of accurate and that's kind of how it
felt like it's just one of those bosses and where it's like you make a good
progress you get in there steady and then kaboom and that is both infuriating
sometimes that can be the moralizing that can be annoying that can make you
hate the fight at the other end it can be like the better I play like every
right choice that you do has an impact on the thing like there has been bosses
particular as DPS where it's just like I press button why we know progress you
know it's like I'm doing my rotation I'm doing my damage there's nothing else
that I can do in order to you know get this further in why are we not making
any progress and that can be hard as a DPS however my second prediction the boy
is flying in the Stover on the Eller oh my goodness yeah it does seem like we're
getting that second Ellie Shaman stove is coming in.
Ellie Shaman is doing so much damage
on this fight in particular, especially to the egg.
So it does make sense.
I know that stove has been behind the scenes,
you know, kind of walking around like,
oh, I do so much damage.
I should be in, I should be in.
And it seems like that call has been made
as stove is making his way into the raid.
He's gonna be super happy about it.
He was a little bit sad yesterday.
Yeah, I mean, he's feeling down a little bit.
It's like it happens like when you're not in for prom. Yeah, because they must be really excited, right?
They haven't necessarily met any fights that have posed much of a challenge
And you finally get to Bella and after the heroic week the first mythic week
We kind of stuck at Lyria because that was all the bosses that were available
You finally get to these then March you come to us bosses that really feel like mythic bosses and oh
No, I have to kind of wait. It's not my time right now. You know, you can only have the 20 players in the raid
and there are so many amazing players in the raid team itself so you know you
can only really go with what the composition requires but it does seem
without the fourth healer there is a space for a DPS and stoves at showman is
very juiced you got the 2-5 yeah I mean it's it's a little bit below the curve
but it's like not it's not perfect level you know like he just doesn't seem to have
that much mythic loot.
The Bracer, you can see the 2 4 states Bracer that's really bringing his Iron Level down.
Which is interesting, like I don't know what else he crafted, I don't know if he's like
missing crest to craft something, because like I would have imagined that you can kind
of just craft a Bracer and just get it to craft the 285 which would give him like 2-3
Iron Levels total.
So that's how he's like kind of at the curve of the Iron Level, but I mean there's only
one way to find out.
I did have a little chat with Roger before he went to bed last night where he was like
please don't talk to me too much I want to go to sleep so I obviously talked to him
because that's what you do and you know he did say it's like they have a couple more
gear characters around they've got a couple more things that they can pull out a couple more
crests that could be sent obviously there's some little crest left over so there's things that
they can do I mostly queers in is if they believe in liquid tactic because I don't know if I want
to see them replicate the liquid tactic if that makes sense mostly because unless they can actually
kind of keep up with the damage which i mean it remains to be seen right we'll kind of have to
look at that it's going to be pretty hard because they don't have the fenders right like liquid right
now i believe it's running flat out 20 fenders i could be wrong on that and put it into a double
checked they are not and i don't think they want to run the 20 fenders because of the way how they
are set up the system so if they then are you know consign to the same add level we'll see obviously
like aquapools, like the level they have. Is it going to outweigh a ventus? It's going to be hard to see.
Could they do it? Very possible. I think there's a slight difference
to come because I think they run or liquid runs one mage. I don't know where the difference
it's exactly lies it might be a third ifo
girl I could very well be yeah we'll have too much time
to get before we came in this morning we will figure that out at some point
however I don't want to say the prophecy for taltz better profit master
oh t shaman see the shaman propaganda that's been happening since day one
I made three predictions when this progress started now is just gonna play a
brewmaster got some more mobility in the tank. Check. Misweaver was no longer needed. It
would become a priest. Check. A second shaman is going to appear because it was really good
for the ex. Check.
Well, there you go. Kana called it. What other predictions have you made? And also do you
have lottery numbers?
Those were it. I definitely would not have predicted spend being in a certain percent
of all, but...
It could be, maybe something's happened with Zawa, maybe stepping in or maybe it might
I'm happy hearing you think...
Ahh, there you go, that's the rule.
There was one tier, so you know what you were saying about Zoe being one of the best players you've ever accounted.
He is an absolute gamer, he's been around in the race world first for the longest time.
And he played an entire tier with an injury and still gained out of his mind.
And it was a very difficult tier, I'm pretty sure it was a major skill.
I'll have to double check, but I'm pretty sure it was a major skill.
an injury with his hand his nose hand and he still managed to compete in the
race world first absolutely blasting gave me out his mind as always a can see
Stove has sent some questions now okay yeah you can see the item levels of
jumps well actually Jordan he's 277.94 I just changed something that's why oh
is that someone else like they have a faint advance it up yeah that might be a
different display but you can see there's like a little small on his face
again he knows it's ready to game the boy is already but we shall see how it
goes I'm excited to see what they are gonna do how far they can get in the
first healing I will have to check lock kind of like locks at some points to be
like how much over healing did the healer do because I felt like there was a lot of
over healing like I don't know what exactly FTM did that was like this is
The thing is, with this fight, a lot that goes wrong is a one-shot, that's what makes
it so punishing.
So that's why you can perhaps drop a healer, it's not necessary, don't get me wrong there's
so much healing that is going out, you know, require healing right especially in the egg
phase when everyone's taking damage and when everyone's getting assigned to their feather,
whether it's a light or a dark feather.
There's still a lot of healing on this fight,
but a lot of the things that can go wrong
is the one-shots of everything.
So before we go into the poll,
because it is a very chaotic fight,
maybe we can give a quick overview
on what we're looking at before we go in
so that we can then, you know,
talk about it a little bit more,
because this fight is absolutely chaotic
and it can be a blink and you miss it
for a lot of the time,
but essentially half of the raid
is going to get separated into light and void. You're going to get assigned by a big aoe
cast at the very start and all of the mechanics on this fight interact whether you are light
or void. So you're going to have orbs that go across the room and on mythic none of
these orbs can touch the boss. So you need to have the light player soak the light orbs,
void players soak the void orbs. At the same time you're going to have soaks and you have
to make sure you're standing in your same color, void in void, light in light and that
leave a puddle on the ground and an ad that they would then have to interrupt.
Exactly and outside of that there's gonna be quilts so basically a quill will target
a person of the opposite color so a dark quill would it be like I'm gonna
go shoot at the light guy which is not good because you're not same color so
then a person with the dark color then has to go in and soak it again for that
person. However on mythic there's also a little
a we that they have around them which pretty much won't shoot anyone else so
So you have to be very careful getting them back.
After the dive you also have these little two birds spawn.
They kind of just need to be kicked and like tripped in.
They have a cost which is, I can't remember exactly how many of it, but when it goes off
you raise death.
Right?
You want to get rid of those birds and that's also why you see the 400s clearing those up
so hard.
But when they die there are still little phoenixes so they'll try and rise back up from the
egg.
If that goes off you're also dead.
So the adds are incredibly dangerous this fighter, that's kinda like why you see this
for Huntercom, because there's no class better dealing with those than the Hunters itself.
Yep, and you can only interrupt it if you are the same color.
So again, it's all about what color you are assigned, and this fight will cycle between
two different phases, but you'll have the bird in its bird form, its Phoenix form, which
is where you have all the chaotic mechanics, and then we'll go into its egg form, which
which are the same kind of like the intermission, but essentially that's the health percentage
that you're looking at, because that's where the damage really matters. That's when everyone
will go into the middle, you'll have these slices of the room taken up by a void or light,
you have to stand in your same colour, otherwise you'll die most likely. And the raiders also
taking a significant amount of damage at that point. You also have the orbs going across
the arena, so you have to make sure that you're clearing and saving those as well, but the
DPS on the egg is what we're really looking at. That's really what's going to show whether this fight is dead or not.
Pretty much. I mean, the face of DPS check is really easy. They were making it yesterday, but our last thing and well, four healing at the same time.
It's basically the first convergence because the first convergence is going to happen when the boss is like 5% HP.
But after every convergence, he's going to spawn the two birds and you don't want those birds to get to mission.
You want to have make sure you have all the time in the world to nuke that damn egg.
Because the lower you get the back, the less you have to do phases, and that's going to be the biggest nerf to the boss over the time, where I don't think people are really going to be able to one phase it, but you know, at some point you're going to have a very comfortable two phase.
For our guys, the comfortable two phase is not so comfortable, it might end up turning into a, you're going to have to go for a third phase.
And that's kind of like why I guess it's interesting, because you could do the two ag phases, have the ag at 5% HP, and then you would have to do the boss.
And that's kind of okay as well, because that phase you can make as short as possible.
You can sack any of the dives, right, because you just need like 10 people on the third ag to finish it off.
So you can sack anyone with the dives, you don't even have to try to do big immunity things with that.
You can really go overboard with soaking, because all that needs to happen is the birds need to be interrupted and killed.
But also, any CDCs you get, you don't need to use on the egg, right?
So if you get your two minutes back up, or three minutes back up, you pop that on that bird, right?
You want to get that bird into the egg stance again.
So, although the third phase one could be crazy, because we have no idea what's going to happen there,
like in the second phase one, you start to get these encircling orbs that come towards the boss,
which is really scary to deal with, we have no idea what's going to happen in the third phase.
so all the time it's all yeah okay i think so when the bird is kind of in its bird form
finished form you're kind of watching for them mechanics and when it's in its egg form we're
watching for the damage how much so PS they can manage to pump out onto the egg and then it will
cycle back the bird will kind of respawn bellarun will kind of respawn with full health again and
you know you can then cycling through the phases that's what you're looking at and very notably
there's also the tank mechanic which I feel like this fight is a personal play from everyone
but I don't think I've seen a fight where there is so much personal play on the tanks as well.
Mirrors is one of the best players in the entire world, a multiple multiple MDI champion,
many race to the world first under his belt, absolute gamer and this fight watching Mirrors play
is just, it's just crazy watching them on this fight. There's the tank to unswap where you have the
there's a three stages to it. You have a light cone, a void cone, and then both going out. And the
order that comes out in is random. So they'll have to make sure that they're reacting to take the
same color that they've got at the same time it knocks you back. And they're also in charge of
So can the Orbs that go across the room to prevent them from also going into the boss
So yeah, you can see the tanks really work in it's really testing their individual player skill
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of nice to see sometimes as is the boss versus like the tanking is just move the buster here
Turn on two, turn on two
Popper C Lee move boss to the left
and
It isn't that engaging and then sometimes you get bosses like struggle mongers, poke mongers longer don't do
in which case like you know one thing is just like running all the conveyor belts
and doing all the mechanics and then sometimes you have a bus like Bellaman
which is just like help. Escavation mark. And it gets really really crazy but I'm
personally love it like I think fights where tanks actually need to play
are kind of cool because sometimes they just have bosses that are incredibly
boring for them. So actually having a really fun engaging fight is great and
on a fight like Bellaman it's like technically they don't have to do all
those jobs but they are the best drivers for it. Yeah you would usually see the
tanks kind of taking those kind of roles on and that with those
responsibilities so orbs going across the room, group soaks which they have been
sending some immunities into as well and with the orb soaks you want to soak the
same color as I was saying before but we've also seen some of the glasses
using the utility such as turtle to soak some of the orbs as well because you
have to really make sure that they don't hit the boss and of course the quills
Now the quills, they spawn kind of in random places, they'll target a player of the opposite
color, you do have to get someone to guard you of that color, stand in the way, they'll
pulse damage around you, which is a mythic change.
And because they spawn in random places, it can really offset soaking, because sometimes
you've seen them spawn in the puddles left behind by the group soak, and there's orbs
going across the room, so there are some crazy overlaps in this fight, which is why I kind
I wanted to do a little bit of a breakdown before we go into it, just because once you're
you know, thrown in there's so much going on.
I mean, the fight to the 3 is kind of in some design philosophy, the same as dragons.
Only the thing with dragons is they will do mechanic A, then mechanic B, then mechanic
C, then mechanic D, P, F, and then it goes back to the start, A, B, C, D, E, F, G. This
one is like half AB, JK have a C. Okay, we're going to do Z now.
Here comes G and H at the same time.
Oh, look, here is A, B, C, D, E.
And that is the fight.
And typically-
So what you're saying, Kena,
is the boss's headbutting the keyboard?
It did not work.
Yeah.
Contrasts are free.
That was production.
But yeah, the way how you make fights difficult
is by creating overlaps with the mechanics.
I think typically every Wild Boss has
also simple mechanics.
This was the biggest issue with Aliyah to be honest, it's like Aliyah is very much an A, B, C, D, E boss and it just does the sequence but it doesn't create those really nasty overlaps, like there wasn't anything that's like how do we do with this particular overlap?
Belorad has that, Belorad is just shooting like A, B, C, D, like it's like what you're trying to get you to join the splits, like it's the exact same stuff.
And the overlap is just the hard part of any fight and this boss, I don't know
He's born in the overlaps or something like it is crazy, but it is so much fun to do as well
Oh, you think you know an overlap? I was born in it!
Exactly, that is this boss
And you put that together with a instant light mechanic when a ball reaches the boss and you put that together with mechanics
That's like
Why am I dead? Oh, I saw two orbs. Oops, you do see
You're absolutely right. With a fight like Bellerin, there are all these mechanics happening,
but what order they come in and how you'll have to deal with them, and them all overlapping
at the same time, is what makes it chaotic. So even with the Light-Binded Vanguard, you
would have, you know, the spread and soak go out at the same time, arguably that's an
overlap, but it was the same thing every single pull. So you knew that you would have to spread
with those soaks. But with Bellarun, especially with the quills kind of spawning in a random
location as well, there is so much reactivity that happens in this fight that you not only
have these overlaps and mechanics, but the way that you deal with the mechanics is going
to change every single time. Alright, we are going into the first pull of the day for Echo
here. This is very exciting indeed. We finally have a boss that is a challenge. This is what
we was asking for. So you have the void like convergence going up, wholesome damage across
the entire raid as everybody will be assigned a feather, either light or void.
So you have to make sure that they are going into the correct group soaks, but
this is the one that they were immuneing. So you can see the two immune players,
Soda and Jinji with their ice block and Turtle soaking it. And now you can see the
tank frontal. There you go, light, void, and now both at the same time. It does knock them
back so they do have to be careful of where they're positioning. So you can see
how rapid these mechanics come in. You can see the quivers as well. The two players
Soaking it with the circle around them. You don't want anyone else to be standing in that
Yeah, you also would be dodging this tank front as you can see it comes out in a random order every single time
And I'll be the voice of mirrors needs to get out of the way and you cannot let any of these orbs
Touch the boss that's about to explode. Oh my god. That was a point one second
Even close not even close baby
Obviously, this is the first one that they are tree healing so it's gonna be a little bit of corners people
Not gonna be used I remember mostly just like a small life. Oopsie. Yes
I do need to actually make sure that the boss is not facing the correct way
Tank buses coming in again as well as well as the wall behind so one of the five people's gonna have to clear that teeth
Actually does a great job. Just leave it straight through it
Trouch it back into the boss and the next set of ads are alive
These need to get gripped in control a little bit better because they are currently not stacked one of them
Go in a little bit. Hey, why are the wait number? No, please end up going down as well
Plus we're being served at the same time as well as the ads being on there and the tank bosses happening and in come the crazy orbs
Which makes it even crazier as are now that though and the extra have spawned one of them is a little bit outside
There's moving the bus back on top of the ad
And more or coming and more cool coming and this is the overlaps agreement and they have to push the boss
So the fridges is happening and they just blot lost and they die
Oh, so what happened there was one of the ads once it's CPS down turns into an egg has a cast you have to
Make sure that that is being DPS down before that goes off. It went off. That was a group wide explosion
You can really see how rapid all of these mechanics. Yes, arguably there's only you know
What I say only there's not too many going on, but it's how they all just rapid fire. Yes
It is just five mechanics on a rapid fire rotation and it's a random order in
the scene see in a partly random order in a
You know at the same time or it is carnage because most of the things are not something that the boss cost
Like very often when you have a boss like the jailer, it's hard to create that ABC like you know
overlaps because the boss has a cast at all in this case the ops just spawned the
quills just spawned the at stake and a two-degree spawn or they come so much
really do you have a replay from Jinjie reaper yeah the rebirth
29k yeah that was just short there but you can see how punishing this fight
is because if you get any of the mechanics wrong it is not only death
for the player, but also a raid-wide death. You know, you don't have enough damage on the adds,
the cast goes through, an orb hits the boss, a quill clips somebody else, the tank so it goes
wrong and clips somebody else as well, because you can see how much the tanks have to adjust with
the frontals coming from the boss with everything else going on. It can be very easy to take down
some raiders as well. Wow, it is really easy. This is a very high amp fight, which must be
very enjoyable as a player. It's a high-octave fight. It's kind of just
feel like one of those bosses that's like even when you have a five-minute
encounter it feels like you know it's been a few minutes tops which is
typically a good sign it keeps you very occupied and those are typically the
multiple bosses like Black Hunt is probably like the prime example of like
the fight was like eight minutes it felt like three just because of how engaging
it is and this boss is kind of gets up there. Just a couple of iron things out
like obviously the first three healings so it's gonna get used to like you know
how much less healing people are getting. People aren't going to be top assbossed.
Obviously, Spen and Stove, they haven't had any muscle memory on the fight yet,
so they are going to get some muscle memory this way. That will get better and better.
And then just a small mistake from the tanks. They did the tank buster, they were getting some soaks
and the charge pack did it all good, but then they forgot to turn the boss. Right, it was facing
towards the raid. The top boss, then they got kind of screwed with some bad energy because the top
tank buster happens which is a way wider radius than the normal one um and you know someone got
clipped and then it starts escalating because i've disguised death in the couple of us up they have
one person that's the soul speech has happened and a bird goes in and then a ship happens and jayna
teleports in and it is spy rolling wow everything really does happen in this fight it really does
I think missing is a long dress. Oh boy. That braggler. I'll start stepping out of the arena. It's Pokemon go longer stronger and
answers it's particular fair buildup. Gallywix just falls from the ceiling through the floor. He's dead anyway. He's very much.
It was better in the room that he's the, you know, the hole in the middle of his platform. That's where this led to.
this led to a lot of that whole bus to Sunwell. Yes, it was. That's definitely what happened.
Yeah, that's part of the lore. If you look closer, like the end cinematic, and then you
see like, when the sun goes like down, you see like, just falling in the background somewhere.
It's stuck in an infinite loop. But then also may have a, well, I don't want to, I don't know,
Is it okay to speak about the cinematic at this point?
Okay, like it's like demo songs, you know, like if you haven't watched the death you can go watch it
What's the what's the agreement to the gentleman's agreement before you can speak to the care about it?
Go watch it. Yeah, but people might not have cleared the rage yet. Okay. It's a well-haired
Raid day
Is it Thursday?
I don't know.
It's the day of the blurring.
It's day 15.
Oh, it is Thursday.
OK, I totally have my life together.
Just today.
Just today.
Ha ha production.
Yes, it is Thursday.
But only today, though.
Very funny.
We did have a very handsome man walking, kind of just, you know.
Oh, did you get distracted, Kana?
I just understand what I'm saying.
I'm distracted by that.
I'm very true.
Good morning, Lada.
Good morning.
How are we doing?
Capitalist, how about yourself?
Yeah, I'm good. I'm looking forward to the full day of progression.
So it's going to be a fun one.
Yeah, I had a quick look at Echo's eye levels.
I'll grab up. Let me make sure I have a screen that is only showing radar IO.
Yeah, general internet, that one will work.
So obviously we had a few compositional changes.
We've brought in another Ellie Sharman.
We've gone down to three healing.
We what was the other thing that we did several hours for a span?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
So we can have a look at our recent pulls.
Oh, we are in a pool, we're waiting to go after the pool.
Very, very good, because the dives are coming in, we're going to serve this with some two immunities.
They all get through it really, really nicely, and income the quills.
They have to make sure that these get soaked.
By a friend, they have a really cool system here, where they do a little self ping,
and it's like, if I ping, I am doing the so, the adds are getting nicely controlled under the boss.
They typically like to ring off pieces, just to get it in an even better spot.
Get those kicks out, make sure those eruptions do not go off grid, interrupt by teeth there.
Then incomes the tankbuster and income the next set of walls.
walls, we need to make sure that these get soaked. You don't want them to reach the boss.
One R equals one Y, very, very clearly. The second rebirth is getting awkwardly closer
and they make sure that they hit this with a good single target. It gets done and they
get through this. The next convergence is coming in and they are going to swap. Maybe
you swap, maybe you don't swap, you could swap, you don't know because the boss likes
carnage and we like carnage as well. They come to the second set of the dives and they
are going to have to make sure that those get soaked and get ready for the tank buster
with the next set of kills, so it does end up going down, but they do have a common rest available for him, they instantly get him back up.
Externals are going out, tank busters, balls, what is happening, help.
Yeah, there is a lot going on and they want to make sure that they're not taking too much damage off of the boss when they are making sure that the adds are getting clear.
So that's something to watch, you know, their damage distribution for those adds.
You can see the tanks are soaking the tank frontal in such a small little narrow alleyway here,
which unfortunately we do lose mirrors because the front as well as wondering
the frontal was kind of overlapped with the puddles left behind by the group
soak again you can see how much these mechanics overlap that being a word of
the day so far but he didn't have much room to work with the one that he had
to stand in was unfortunately overlapping that puddle left behind and
there was nowhere else to go of course they really do need to be hit by it
but also if that tank frontal does hit anyone else that is of the opposite
color. It does enrage the boss as well, so they do have to be very careful with that
tank frontal. But Medic, what were you saying over on the arcana last, isn't it?
Nothing too interesting. It's too early in the morning for me to be awake.
No, very interesting. You've got gear!
Yeah, so we can have a look at the pause from last night on the right side of your screen
and the pause from this morning from Echo on the left side of your screen. As you can
see, we brought in Stove on the Elemental Charm, and we have also taken out Zerwer for
Spen, who's playing the Warlock now. We're playing the same healer and, oh, what's the
word I'm looking for here? Composition? Tank, that's the one, thank you. But we have taken
out one healer, so FTM on the Prez is now out, which gives us space to keep both of
our mages while making the other changes. If we compare this to Liquid's comp, there
are a couple of key differences. Liquid running a Guardian Druid as their tank, and a Mistweaver
as their healer, which is just, you're looking for the Mark of the Wild buffs and such, right?
also they're running triple orc where we're only running two augmentation evokers. They've taken out
a mage to do that. So they're looking for a little bit more of that buffing for the whole raid rather
than having the extra mage immunities and the extra damage. They have been able to survive through
phase one with those overlaps without the immunities from I think it's ice block right on the mage.
So obviously they found a strategy that works for them but at the moment we're using gov and
gingy really is those immunities for those overlaps. Which is really nice because the
immunities being a really key integral part of the mechanics of this fight but also Hunter and Mage
are blasting, which does help because you have seen previous Raiders or previous bosses where
you need the utility but that spec might not necessarily or that class might not necessarily
pump as much but you know the Frostmages and the Hunters not only doing a large amount of damage
but also really nice cleave because this is what they're going to be juggling which is kind of what
I mentioned in the previous pull. You don't want to lose too much damage off the boss if the boss
really has to die, but you also need to kill the adds. So it's all about resource assignment.
That is one final thing I thought I'd bring up is we can look at Echo's pools last night,
average eye level of 279.03, that's jumped to 279.29 this morning. And actually, if we compare that
with Liquid's eye level, about 0.7 of a lead for Echo right now on the on eye level on these pools.
Obviously, people haven't sent crests, some people are sending vantices. I looked at Liquid,
I think three vantices overall, which seems to be the same amount as echo
It's not a full Vantice raid as far as I can see. I'll have another check just to make sure I'm right on that
But I'm pretty sure they've only sent three vantices so far. Could you also see who sent the fence?
Yes, I can I believe it was missed weaver and two of their hunters, but I'll check again
Okay, because I did watch
Fight up PV and he had a fantasy running and they might have been a couple more
Yeah, they may I may be looking at an older pull fight up does have a Vantice running
but I'm exiled dozen and their DK doesn't I'll have a quick check to make sure
I get more while you go through the pool. Very good, but we are back into the pool
and we are having the tankbusters the divesters just come through the S are
being gripped in this DK mandatory on this fight absolutely yes but it is
officers just a really really cool little utility thing. Make sure they get those
kicks and the tankbusters are going through. I really like that they are starting to
clear more and more of those walls and just create all of that space that they
really really neat while dealing with the quills at the exact same time. The
reapers are going to slowly go off and they're getting all of the damage. The
hunter are just a ballast of these. I really would like to see at some point
the reapers damage and just see like who's actually like hard carrying them
because it would be presumptuous of me that it is the hunters. The second reapers are getting a little bit close, but overall they're getting through nicely into the second
set of the conversion. You might swap, you might not. You could remain the same. You
might get a swap so you have to get that reaction going really fast. Steve is going
I love this little thing, where he's just like leaping through it and clearing all of those
ops, creating the space for the double dives to go again.
Two more immunities together with the guys, but oh my god, the front tool was scary.
That's not where you want the tank front to go.
Yeah, this is how you can see how the available player space that they're working with can
be really, really difficult.
It's very fiddly, this fight is just, you have the tank front tool, you always have
the group soaps.
One thing being aimed slightly skew with can lead to disaster, especially with the Orbs going for it as well.
Do we have a replay of that from Madras's POV, because I don't know if he did like a really quick wiggle that got him there,
but I thought as I was standing on the right side and the boss was just like,
I don't like you, I liked that warlock, and he was just like, too.
I had a quick check, don't have to switch over to me or anything.
four vantices it's two hunters it's the misweaver that's uh smacked and i'm fired up uh the four
vantices that have been sent that is actually yeah i mean obviously i'm a little bit biased here
obviously rooting for a certain team um as you would imagine uh as i am here um it's method
i'm rooting for jk um it is echo i'm rooting for so um i thought they were going to have more
Fentus I thought that the idea of having the double mains that they did was
sort of good Fentus more or I did not even see it. Yeah we have the replay here and
let's have a little look yeah it just seemed like yeah why did it go there?
Can you go back a little bit further? Yeah just want to see because this is the tank so it does come out
the boss. Yeah, that's really
strange. Why did the boss turn
then? Can we have that? Can we
have a look at it? One more time.
You can see there is his face.
He's also looking like, oh, nine.
What is this, man?
Yeah, so here is the tongue of
the boss here.
Yeah. It is the blue dinosaur
we're looking at. He doesn't
have a little wiggle and then
the boss is like, hug two.
That is really strange.
Did somebody either someone that was soaking pressed haunt but I can't remember we were
soaking it because hunters don't have taunt the only person with an immunity that could
possibly immune it would have been narco but a narco taunt was from range that plays
by him otherwise maybe I couldn't see we had the dice but that's peculiar I don't know if that is
like a mistake of a taunt or if that is just a little buggy because we did hear from a Tiefen
interview with the Sidharmon Cyclops yesterday that there is some issues with the tank buster
sometimes the buff doesn't really want to turn sometimes he does sometimes he will
cannot turn on his own that might have been one of those on his own turn so small set of set of
shenanigans but you know nothing that they can't shake off. I saw a TikTok that was
Skype saying yeah the animations were a lie guys we'll get our analysts working on that.
One very small minor thing just very quickly. A liquid made a very minor change going into
this last pull. I do have it up on the screen right here we can see Goop on his augmentation
evoker actually switched trinkets was originally running the soul catcher's charm which is a
Damage increase drinking basically switched over to Vailgaard's final stare for the increase mastery
So it's those small things that will see change throughout today
Expect the eye levels to save roughly the same, but yeah a couple of small changes happening overall. Yes, Kana
I think he made a mistake because the trigger that he had on the right
I sent it because I got that mythic from a fault and it was worse than the LFR version of that one
I think I think that was a crest for doctor
Yeah, it was 276 so maybe you just stuck in by actually
Exactly. I think it was a crest reduction. I think you've even got the swap so...
No, it was a Stormwind Cape action.
Yeah, I think that is a Stormwind Cape or a shenanigan.
I guess it was found a couple of little 3dps right there.
Yeah, but what's really interesting, just going back to looking at the characters and the Isom level,
is that with the two different ways that the guilds have been gearing,
you actually have quite a lot of aughts that are in for Echo.
because this fight is requiring you know the four hunters so it could just be
you know we need four hunters for this fight but their mains could be something
else you've seen Helene for example absolutely blasting on the Evoca and
now playing Hunter on this fight so that's why we do have some alts in and
you can probably see that even with liquid as well even though liquid have
opted to kind of gear the two mains. Yeah it's an interesting one overall as we do
just have a visa on the buff. I'll give you one small little trinket before I
leave. Look at how many gays of the Ornsea is Echel half on their most recent pull. They're
on the left, Liquid are on the right. It's just gays, gays, gays, gays, gays, gays, gays.
We have one, two, three characters without one of those trinkets. Well, on the side of
Liquid, there's a lot of final stairs happening. That might be a strategic thing. They say
they want the increased mastery instead. But overall, it feels like Echo's Chimeris splits
really paid them dividends. And I have to give credit to Jordan and Corella for that, because
yesterday morning we got five gazes in four pools and now it's just incredible
yeah we're just the gift the kids are giving when me and Corella are on the
couch yep four pools we had double gaze trinket drop on one pool and then one
trinket drop every other pool and then we had a cast a switch and after that
we've got one heroic yeah that's true thank you to the Corella buff
Corrella, the Corrella, Giordella buff.
Oh, that's actually so cute!
I came up with it in 0.2 seconds.
Giordella?
Giordella.
I love that.
Me and Corrella are going to be running around the venue.
Giordella, Giordella.
Exactly.
Well, thank you for that matter.
That was actually really nice and informative.
I liked the little comparison, the quick side by sides, obviously a lot of unused.
I would say that Liquid had a couple more ribbons in there instead of the Gay String
Which the kind of interchangeable kind of not because in case it's just a better version of the ribbon in most situations
But they could have a fight like this
Yeah, but if it didn't drop for them, that's a good second best option
But yeah, overall it was looking good
I was very surprised to see the item level difference between spell and Sero
Sero was like two seven five point something and spell is like two seven nine
Which is obviously why he's in right now. Wow. That is a major major difference like obviously
Echo is so used to say, well, obviously in the guild, right, like, highly important for all the better players, or best players, I should say.
So you would want to play him, but Spen himself, he is a good player. I've played with that man, and he got posed away from me for a damn reason,
and that is because he is also dead damn good. So, fair example to see what he can do, and yeah, let's get straight back into the pooling.
They may just go out. Oh my god, like there are even too many texts on this thing.
There's a green circle on the mechanical spawns.
Yeah, they want to make sure that they are soaking those quills
so that they don't hit the wrong color, as well as making sure
that they are killing off the adds. You don't want that rebirth cast to finish,
so they want to make sure they're finishing off before that happens.
As the next set of quills goes out, you can see they'll be self-pinging, which is a really
really nice deal thing but you can see just how little space they have to work
with. Not only do they have to run around and soak all of these orbs to prevent
them from hitting the boss but also depending on the tank frontal you have
to be careful where you're soaking the quills. Yes exactly and you have to be
so careful with everything. So over here again Tief is gonna clear that wall, the
minions are gonna go through, two minions are gonna go stand in the middle, perfecto
and I believe Jinji or Goblin in this case. They soak those, quills coming in,
While balls are coming in, while tankbusters are happening, and in this case, one of the
Quill Soaks is inside the tankbuster, so they're gonna have to dodge each other, they're doing
a great job.
Even more Quills are coming in, the boss is getting low, Ezreal are under it, so they
also need to kill the Rebirth Axe right now.
Those Axes, if they go off, it is an instant wipe.
You will instantly die, so everyone's going to focus on it, you can see Spen is trying
to hit him with all of his little inblings.
While more Quills are coming in, while more balls are coming in, while the tankbuster
is coming in, everything is carnage, Benderman down to 4.5%.
Jinji has gone down, but they don't have a combative vessel available for him, however this is still going to be the first time, but they need to get this one down because if those at spawn, you are going to wipe, they get it through, but they do have some balls incoming, these balls can kill you while you are flying in on this.
They need to make sure that people with the dark color are gonna go in first, get those little objects, you can actually see Teep over there, he's just clearing the wall, blast the tank, and in comes the egg.
It's not the cleanest recession, Jinji is down, they have lost a little bit early because of syniagons happening, but they can mid-mix that.
Spent two in the wrong one wrong color buddy unlucky, but they're gonna keep going
They're gonna keep giving me the pump
We're gonna have a decent little test of like can they get lower than what they are used to the lowest that they got yesterday
Was sixty point five percent and they actually make you so pretty damn
Good headline with this egg is already almost going lower and lower sixty two percent on this act with three DPS down during this
They've already beaten their new or the old past with a whole bunch of people that and the early blood loss
not the cleanest but not the worst but they were blood the bloodlust in first egg on Paul's previously yes yesterday
They were so yeah, that was a little bit of a progress. Oh, you know
Yeah, they just got lost just because yeah, they're cool pulling behind so they were you know
Popping it to kind of catch up, but getting their best push on the egg with two TPS dead
Also the bloodlust running while the boss was transitioning into the egg phase. Yeah
that was a significant damage you know loss but still managing to get the best
push is really something can see the changes you know bringing in that extra
DPS opting for one less healer you can really kind of see that paying off but
you can see how close to probably this fight could get with all of those orbs
kind of encroaching on the boss of course any orb that is not soaked will
kind of bounce off of the wall and kind of ricochet back so you will have to be
be very careful of those orbs, it will get more and more chaotic as the fight goes on
because you know, more waves, more walls of orbs will spawn, so yeah, causing a lot of
problems.
It's such a crazy thing, like at some point I'm sitting there, like I'm just staring,
and it's like there's balls, there's crickets, there's tankbusters, there's birds, there's
like there's four mechanics going on on the screen at the same time, and then there's
a mechanic that you don't even officially see, there's healer problems by the way.
Just just for the sake of it listen was like you know what you guys don't have enough things to go on so have some
Heels up as well. And you know what a heel sort issue is
Is that you can't get healed so you so can or and then you're like oh I can't so the second you're so kid
You're 10% HP and like why is my HP not going up?
Well me that's right like it happens so much and it's like it's something that you
Need to keep track of but it's so hard to keep track of
Yeah, cottage. Yeah, absolutely, and you could see again. We're talking about these overlaps
of not only do you have these kind of rapid fire mechanics, but also the way that they
kind of position themselves in the arena can really kind of affect them. So we had one
of the quills, I think it was a void quill, going across to shoot to a player, but it
kind of spawned where the tank soak was. So it can be very difficult to soak that because
the player soaking would either have to go into the tank frontal to stand on top of where
it spawned, or soak it basically underneath the boss and on mythic, the mythic change
is that you do pulse damage around you when you do soak it. So kind of soaking that while
under the boss and everybody is around also trying to dodge everything else can be, you
know, quite difficult. So we did see unfortunately, I go down that point, I think that was what
you died to, but it can also be very difficult to see just because there is so much happening.
Yeah. And the LA's popped the Coolies and they hit the targets very hard. This is why
they're so good. How happy does this make you? I mean, again, I am more of it.
RIP is absolutely blasting by the way, but watching the damage meters like a true DPS every single pull, because that's the only thing that matters, right?
I mean, pretty much.
You've been topping.
The first 5-10 seconds of any burst is absolutely diabolical.
It is so much damage because there's so many instant casts in there that just do so much, and they're all overloading, and then if you get some crits in there, it just kind of gets you.
So it's some of the highest burst.
But obviously you have to pop it on pool. You would want to use it on these little birdies, but you can't because you need those two minutes for that act phase.
So many are supplied and they need to make sure that they get these. You see Ryzen need to take them on this little tree farm and do a great job.
And in comes the next conversion.
This is where your color might change. It doesn't always change.
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. In this case, Stove actually remains the same color.
The tank is going to go out and clear some good stays, clear a good way there.
Immediately these folks are going in. I still really love this tactic and they haven't really had too many mistakes,
So there's some people do drop low, you actually see them all...
Ooh, yeah, that could have been all going into the boss.
Seemed like all going into the boss.
Yeah, but you're right, it is nice how they are kind of utilizing their immunities.
Usually, you know, instead of the raid taking a lot of damage,
by going into these group soaps, because usually how the soaps work is the damage is spread between every player that's standing in it,
so the person that get signs it is not going to die,
because you know you have everybody standing in it so having those two
immunity players and the way that they're kind of venn diagramming and
overlapping the circles like that as well so that the immunity players can be in
both yeah means that less people take damage so when you're three healing
especially there's less people to heal yeah people take damage so again it's
all these little optimizations that are gonna really you know go a long way in a
like this as we're saying they are three healing so you know these little optimizations can be
but yeah like it is carnage and it's like the most important thing is it's like you can tell that
they really want to just get this egg lower and lower like that's the focus for today that's how
how do you think they're going to kill the boss? Normally they would have some small
coolies running, it's like, oh maybe like one little hunter that uses a trick to shoot
shots on the second set of adds. There is no shenanigans like that, where like you are
single targets packed, the cleave that they have is the cleave that they have and you
just need to get those birds down because the damage that matters on this fight, even
though there's a bunch of cleave, is just that act, like that's where all your damage
has to go into. And I'm very curious to see how far they can get and how low they can
get it right like it's going to be like it just ongoing process of how much can
you do the damn egg and how much can you optimize every global every sequence
it's gonna be interesting to see and I'm very excited to see when they get through
there you know the face more clearly flat loss all the coolies go pop yeah
because we have seen their best you know poll in terms of how low the egg has
gotten to the fifty nine point two percent since making you know their
of composition changes. But one of the trickier parts of the fight for both guilds so far
is coming out of that first egg intermission, that's how we want to call it, and going into
kind of phase two when Bella and Rize is once more. That is a very, very difficult transition
to deal with because, again, overlaps of all of the mechanics has really kind of killed
them off as a team. We've seen it with Liquid and with Echo. So it's not just necessarily
progress in terms of watching the egg health. There's actually a significant amount of encounter
progress as well, which is what makes this fight so difficult. And it is definitely one
to watch. I think it makes it very compelling that you're not just kind of watching the
health of like, oh, you know, how much damage can we squeeze out for this first egg phase?
It's also, okay, we've managed to do a lot of damage, but also we need to get out of this
first egg face really cleanly because that transition is rough but let's see how far into the encounter
they can go with their next pull. They're performing extremely well so far, love to see it. So the void
like convergence is going out, everybody will be assigned a feather, light and void and then that
will kind of dictate how they tackle the encounter. You can see all of those orbs getting burst there
by a G from very nice to see as the first group so go out. The immunity is popped by a Gingy and
So I believe with the turtle
Oh, let's do with tank frontal. Okay, both tanks taking that the double side there
This tank here is so big, but it is great to see they're doing a great job of building this. So, okay
Marius is just kind of just like spinning the boss around to give it a little 360 just because he can
Who's next in comes the next set of tank bosses
These are can be very scary because you don't want to get knocked into arc
You have to make sure that you are positioned correctly for this and over here like you can see Marius
He's got to be in the pickle point, but an arc already reached the boss. So golless
Yes, but even if you didn't have that there was a trouble like he would have had to
Go to the back of the tank bus and take it there
There's scary overlaps of this. Yes. So when that double when the tank frontal came out, there was also the light orb
So mirrors was afflicted with the void. Yeah, so
He couldn't soak those
light orbs, but it perfectly kind of went over his void tank frontal
So that would have been very difficult for those holy players to kind of soak those orbs
Again, that's kind of where the foresight is gonna have to come in you have to really get those angles to know
Hmm, yeah, those are gonna be a bridge in the boss
You think we're gonna get a petition in for marriage removal this that's helper and so we don't have to see CVL screen
24 hours. I think there's a subtle subliminal message of how
how Mirrors is feeling through progress so far.
That's his feelings, what happens on the pool.
So my DPS can't do the vaults
and I'm getting screwed over by Orbs and my tank buster
and I can't move.
I have to say, this fight is very difficult.
There's a lot of personal play from every single player,
but it is so rough on the tanks.
They are, watching Mirrors go through this fight
is fantastic in terms of game play.
I feel like the CBA is very reflective of how it's been.
It's very reflective.
It's like, one thing that I really like about this fight is
It's doing so much.
The combat timer on that wipe was 48 seconds.
They are pulling and pulling and pulling
because there's only so much you can discuss
about a 48-second wipe, which is almost unpreventable
because so much carnage happens, it is just so, so hard.
It is so hard to this fight.
So it's kind of like Kill Jaden. I think on the first time when we got to Kill Jaden in the tree-nerved, kind of box version, oh my god, frog, please don't die, we formed over 100 wipes on the evening.
Because it was just like pull, oh first meter happened, something went through, boom, that's next, next, next. And it was just pull, pull, pull, pull.
And I mean, yeah, this sequence is just absolutely crazy. So here comes the little time buster, need to make sure TV is going to get knocked slightly into.
into has to leap over oh my god please place the correct way yes it does
ops for being soaked very well the rebirth does not go down and in comes you
can see a little glow of Marius's fingers gonna give Charmy a little tiger's
loss so he's faster because Charmy is gonna go to the complete opposite side
and soak some light ops here so he's gonna go do that with the turtle make
sure there's like a nice little hauling coming there he goes little turtle goes
out Marius time to get a couple more soaks and in constant tank buster he needs
to make sure he does not get by hit with those the toggle tank buster is coming
coming now, but dealing with it well, the boss is moving slightly away from the
edge, but they can move it back under. You can see Matt's going to try and
reposition it right on top of those edges and get the maximum amount of cleave
in. You want the cleave on these edges. These edges need to get annihilated. If
that goes off in 15 seconds, it isn't instant wipe. But in comes the next
tank boss. You can see him even looking behind making sure that's the space
because in comes the set of balls as well. Even more balls flying in. They need to
make sure that they get the soaks on these. More balls, more balls, crazy balls.
The boss is going through. The boss always walks into a ball. They need to pop the
lost because they're slightly behind right now. This conferencing cannot go off but they should be able to beat this. There should be no ad spawning at this side but they are going to get the wall. They have dealt with this before though. You can see Marius is going out and team is going to the other side. They're going to get their soaps to make sure that the race stays alive. Incombs are knocked off. They have to be careful with the scale though. If you get through you might get hit by those balls but they deal with it perfectly.
incomes the first proper new it is not the perfect new it is not the one where
they're gonna have the fresh bloodlust straight when they go but they should be
able to get a good one then you need to get some soaks going because there is a
more balls in the intermission with the echoing on but nobody is getting hit so
far and they are burning the egg. The egg is already going down to 60% and they
still have 10 more seconds of this. We might be able to see a good 50% new incoming here
but they have to keep doing the dance. Again it is not the most perfect one
They didn't have the perfect loss AMS at the end and Inco was Bellarant
Think I've got hit on the end. That's very unfortunate, but oh my god the boss walked back into it. Oh, yeah
unfortunately, we did
You know it's coming out of that phase is always very very tricky, but we did get a new best pull from echo
They managed to you know do a lot of damage to the egg there and you are absolutely right as we was going into the egg phase
The boss was you know, we managed to transition it before those and spawned
But what you are going to see is people kind of holding damage
And this is going to be the juggle that the teams are going to be going through as they're progressing this fight
Is that you want to make sure that all your cooldowns are available?
You don't want to be sending anything onto the boss as it's kind of dropping and going into the egg phase because the egg damage is really
What matters? I mean, you know damage route and fight is gonna matter, but it's over once the egg does so every time
You know the boss will respawn so
They want to make sure they're sending everything on my egg. Yes, so
So that's why you know pushing it into that face can be a little bit slower as long as
they're pushing it at the right time then you know again not having those ads come out
as ideal but yeah they're going to make sure that they have everything possible for the
egg in terms of damage wise and they are doing again all these little tiny optimizations
once the egg kind of falls they all get knocked up in the air so taking that gateway to another
find the knockback and getting straight back into melee is going to be a huge deep gas increase
in terms of uptime across the raid so that was really nice to see. Yeah they need to clean up
their phase one a little bit right now they're just lacking the dps like you don't want to have
to pop that blast loss that's early if you want to go for the best view because they're losing
about a good 10 seconds of the blood loss at first. It could be that they're holding a little bit too
much this is usually what you tend to see is that everyone's holding but they still need to kind of
push the boss so I think it could have been a case of like okay we need to assign maybe a little bit
more it's just it push the boss it is hard because like one true shot would
almost outdifference the bloodlust so it's like you can't really hold more
I'm not gonna lie they just need to pump more like they just need to squeeze all
like that little extra point five percent here and there just so they can save
them because preferably what you would do is right on the last thing which you
all spent on your resource you would want your allies to go in with a full
borrowable strong you would want your devourer to have the perfect setup you
will want your hunters to be able to have two charges of aim shots and like the
full energy bar or focus bar ready for those moments they're not getting
through to cleaning right now they need to make sure they tidy up the face on a
little bit more maybe be a little bit more strict with the assignments it is
eventually if you are they might not even be trying oh my god why is the
oh my lord yeah it seems like the company was missing from soaking those light orbs there
yeah they got them they're still continuing
right on through but yeah I mean the frost mages will be pooling you know
resources, pooling their prox for example, making sure that they're going in you
know with the buy slot well, blurry etc. Yeah exactly that's what they want to but
they just have to make sure that they actually get it because if you're
lost like that you're not saving the resources. Yeah and it's going to be an uptime
thing so they can definitely find that damage as they get more comfortable with
fight because they're dealing with so many mechanics it can very early on in
progress it can be a case of you know make sure that you are staying alive
dealing with everything and with the damage will come the more comfortable
comfortable and confident you get with the fight.
Sure.
Unfortunately, this is the problem with the kind of tank knockback is that
mirrors took the front so got knocked into the opposite color orb and
took an incredible amount of damage.
Nicely done, Nicely done, which again like if you have to use a combat dress
right now in this phase you're probably not going to have the perfect transition
and it's not that they need the perfect transition they can you know they can
get the egg down to 50% and just progress the boss they'll have to do a third egg
you know you can't do it again if you get the egg to 50% but still progress right
like they haven't seen the third egg yet regardless so you can kind of get through
that and just try and get there there's a lot of progress to be done obviously
they're gonna have to do a lot of pulls they're gonna have to get confidence
they also do have new players right like Spen just has not Spen is like 10 pulls
into this boss right now, save its stuff, so they can get a lot more man max right,
they can get a lot more confidence, maybe they find some cheeky little talent somewhere,
where it's like oh we'll have a little bit more passive cleave and then more people can actually,
because right now you see like the x-bomb, like the V-Burf axe, and Sven has a single target
buff, like your warlock, which mostly is just a single target turret, is focusing those x down,
if someone can find some good passive cleave, you can then have the warlock just be like oh I no
no longer need this, I can now just, you know, same as arbitrary to boss. And then again,
there's then just two difference. Just some optimizations are going to happen. Some people
analysts are going to look at the CD usage or like mini CD usage, like where your storm
keeper going can use that more effective, all these small little things. Try and make
sure that everyone can do like 0.3% more damage. Because if everyone does 0.3% more damage,
times 4, 15 DPS, you know, that's the, that's the 5% right there that will pretty much
Yeah, that's why the uptime kind of optimization will come into it
And that's where you can really find the damage because it could be the people are not necessarily
You know cleaving as much onto the ads and then people have to hard swap
Which is damage taken off of the boss that would ordinarily be on the boss. That's why they're kind of juggling their resources
This is kind of these mini optimizations that you're gonna see
But yeah on a chaotic fight like this
It is gonna be a large portion of the progress to kind of get comfortable with the fight especially as you know, I mean
I mean, they are gaming out of their absolute minds.
We did have two swappings, you know,
Sven and Stove, both getting comfortable,
but they are performing really well.
As to be expected, there's always some times,
I don't know if this has maybe happened well.
This would may have happened to you as well,
when if you're ever kind of not in on a fight
and, you know, your guild progresses for,
let's say 50 pools, and then you're brought in,
you have to perform as if you have those 50 pools too.
That's what's so important. You can't regress in terms of progress.
Even though you haven't had the muscle memory of those 50 pulls or the rest of your guild,
you very much need to play as if you do.
Because you can't afford to just drag everybody backwards, especially not in the race to work first.
Yeah, there's a part of like, it's kind of impossible scenario.
You're not going to do the same DPS and so on, but you're expected to be able to come in.
And you know, let's say you replace Gen.G.
You're expected to know exactly how to do that so, right?
Like, you have to blink there, you have to immune it, you alter time back out, and you're good to go.
You being able to press your flurry or like, you know, where to soak or like, who's gonna be soaking, get a few for that with everyone.
Those are gonna be like, small things that's like, you'll learn over time, right?
Like, you're gonna get more and more comfortable with the fight, you're gonna do more and more damage on the fight.
Those are small things that you'll get more and more comfortable with.
However, like, it is like you said, right? Like, you need to be able to kind of just do that.
Obviously over time you're gonna get a little bit more comfortable with like the fight itself
and you gotta be able to press your DPS buttons a little bit better.
Not just because you can't do your attention, just because you're confident on what's happening in the fight.
So, you know, you can kind of just tick tick tick tick, it's a completely way.
But so far they're looking pretty solid, next set of tankbusters coming in.
In comes the wall, they did have one vest going out and Gov already.
But he's back up, he's alive, he's strong and he is fighting.
In comes the double tankbuster and the income these small adds, then you make sure these are kicked.
they can only be kicked if you are on the correct color incomes into the more quills
ring of peace actually knocking perfectly under those are really nicely positioned
rebirths right there incomes on the next set of tank buses that income a lot more
orbs greatly brighter than tiff maras trying to dodge the next frontal now he's gonna take
over the frontal tiff has to dodge this frontal again maras don't get locked into those orbs
oh no the ball now yeah you can see how fiddly this fight really is again those orbs going
across the platform but it was that small little movement which was to be expected. The tank
frontal does knock the tank backwards. The boss stepped forward that one step that then made it
you know kind of hit that one orb. It's very fiddly but that was a really nice play from Tief.
That was a lovely play by Tief and that's like going to be like a really cool little clippy.
One thing that was important, the boss HP did not circle for just cars yet, 2% HP right so they
they already found that little bit of damage like people getting a bit more confident,
a little bit more pump also not a perfect pool like you know got got common rest and he's still
topping so that boy slam and he he was happy that pool you know he got the good prokies going on
but they are like getting a good little men maxed out there they they definitely felt good about it
they're finding that little bit of like you know the comparability the pools are getting nice there
it is a good sign it's like on this boss no matter how many pools you're in if you're at pool 87 or
or your pool 500, a orb is going to reach a boss ineftably. It's going to happen because
the balls don't spawn in the same spot every time. Sometimes there's 10 balls coming towards
the boss, like in this case, there were just like 4 orbs coming from the side and it's
like all of them were aimed for the boss. Sometimes 4 orbs will come from the side and
none of them are aimed at the boss. It is ineftable that an orb is going to reach the
boss at some point. So those vibes are just like you can replay, you can over-analyze
so you can take a 20 minute like little wild break with scribe where he reads you a book about how to soak orbs
or you can just go again
A, B, C, D, E, F, G
now you can soak orbs with me
yeah, the guys are doing great
and hopefully they'll keep going
well yeah you would hope so
you would hope so
you know what? I'm done
I'm gonna go do some pray
Oh, okay. I thought you were praying for them to actually get through the boss.
What is happening? Why not pulling?
I just said you don't have to overanalyze the piece.
You know what's really funny, every time Perfecto is cut to Perfecto,
because he's been using the inky black potion as well.
So not only does his raid frames terrify me, because he has the dark raid frames,
where on someone else's when it goes I think they go black that means they're
dead yes so when it cuts to perfecto I think the entire raiders died although if
I can see correctly it does seem like he he hasn't he's actually got colors on
his frames which is great to see so no you don't switch to his path and
everyone said he's also using the inky black potion and I can't work out if
this is a debuff or not I don't know which one I prefer this can make things
very hard to see because he seems to be dealing well with it I think you just
kind of I don't understand the sector was born in the dark some bosses it is
actually kind of objectively nicer but you know what else is nice Jordan you're
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the chat but we are in another pool so what do you think about perfecto's
inky black potion do you think it is a buff already buff I mean there are
brush I suppose well I don't think like I don't think it matters on this bus I
I don't think there's a buff or debuff particularly on this boss, I think it's just...
I would use True K now, alright, we're sitting on the fence for this one.
I mean, it's just like, sometimes there's like certain mechanics where it's like, it is objectively easier to see,
because it's like, it's a really bright room and it's just way easier to see because of how dark it is.
I don't think you have the difference particularly on this fight.
So I think on this fight it's kind of just like, he just prefers it, he just likes to toss it on.
Um, it's kind of okay.
But there has been fights in the past, like on how long it was, it's just for me a major difference,
because it was way easier to see the modes in the last phase.
For me it was way easier to see the modes, because they were really bright.
But in this case they did have a small oopsie, and there's a second oopsie.
God.
Good night.
Oh, unfortunately, you think...
Nice thing to start earlier doing a soak, and they rest them up, because they need to.
And then I think...
Perfecto just came for a run, opting for...
Oh, can I fit? Oh, no. You know, we've got to test these things for science. Can I squeeze between the gap of the orbs?
I didn't know that the orbs bounce, by the way. I just realized this today.
They reach the wall and then they bounce.
Not only that, but they actually extend past the room. So you'll often see them kind of going through the wall, then kind of up the back.
because the room in terms of the orbs is larger than the available, you know, what you see.
So, yeah, well played, Elizabeth.
Well played.
Yeah, they have made a very difficult boss, that's great.
It's like those like small choices of design that actually just make the boss so much harder,
because there's just more balls you have to deal with, which is just more chances for people to
screw up. And it just makes it so much harder. It's those like little designs that's like, you know,
It's like that could have happened on like Alera where it's like oh, maybe these things do the small thing
It's like a really simple small choice that doesn't feel impactful
But it's going to cause you a bunch more wipes because that little bounce could be the ball that's gonna reach the boss
Yeah, it can make it very difficult to see obviously when they kind of disappear beyond the bounds of the room and then come back
Well, we'll all of a sudden get revealed kind of what angle those they are floating at
Alright, we're going into another poll though, so that's kind of what we're
keeping an eye on is the damage of the bellarum itself itself in this phase to
see, you know, are they still kind of squeezing out those extra couple of
percentages going into the egg phase and how much they really can, you know, shave
off of the egg once we get to the point. I don't know why we're shaving eggs but we
are now, but we haven't had a clean transition into the egg phase yet, so it'll be
interesting to see how far they can DPS it down but of course first we do have to get there we do
have to battle our way through every single mechanic that the boss is throwing at you often at the
same time you can see the quills going out which has a very nice visual to clearly indicate who
it's going on but also a very very nice little circle that goes around the first target that's
going to be hit just because on mythic they it does pulse damage so it's a very nice thing from
blizzard to kind of clearly indicate who it's on where they're going to be pulsing damage you don't
have to kind of know what to do no bustle memory it kind of just hope that you're not near anyone
do range or have your arms i don't even know if you can drag that anymore they change that from
archimonde but yeah so that makes it much clearer to see so you can kind of work together
and then comes the second episode so they get some excellent thoughts from melec because he's the
second one out there from narkley's make sure that his teammate stays alive we're going to soak
of these quills and incomes in excess of tank busters. They want to make sure that they deal,
the busters at least look really good. They need to make sure though that they get these ads
like straight under the buster. The more they are stacked under, the easier those rebirth acts are
going to be able to deal with. One more set of tank busters. There's some dog all behind the tank.
Oh no! See the, again, this is where things can get, these can get really difficult because
they have such a narrow kind of avenue where they take that tank frontal just before they transition
It's a little alleyway between the two different soaks that go out
Very very narrow passages. They go through
Unfortunately having some orbs also overlapping so mirrors colliding with the opposite color
Got to that one personal and he just DCD is looked off. He was like I can't
For
personally I don't know if we did it in the first setting I think no I think um so let's
look at the thing he was with he was in like yeah yeah but his first trial tier with echo was uh
the previous yeah yeah manaforge when he was absolutely blasting um I think I was gonna find
perhaps started playing in Shadowlands so he may have uh you know progressed to Wanderas
yeah so you are having a little bit of uh of a reload here the hopeful EMPs take out the radius
one by one there goes Soda as well he's the next target and then takes down two
double kill two new players must always be offline yeah yeah it's spreading like
a virus the offline virus it might be one of those things that's just like it's
time to clear cash sometimes it's important to just get a little longer
in clear the cash get that smoother game running because this is like not a game
where you want to be start the stepping either it's something that's gonna be a
nightmare on this fight exactly so it's like sometimes you need to get through
like we can kind of see everyone's kind of just going through like everyone's
kind of just looking about cleaning up that cash scanning making sure that they
have to fool the fullest of performance going
and then get ready to pull
yeah quickly little five minutes break and make sure you get in
yeah this is a very intense fight it's always nice because Echo don't tend to
chain pull I mean they do there's nothing to discuss and nothing to be gained they of course will go back to back
Which we've seen this morning, but it is very important for them to kind of stay a lot
You know have that five minutes to at least stretch their legs because I'm a fight like this
You have to be really locked in and you can't afford to you know your brain to go for a wander at any point in this fight
Because it's so intense
There's so much being thrown at you every single time and you have to really think about way of positioning where you're standing because you
can get clipped by a quill. You need to be very careful of the tank frontal because if
the orbs go across the room in a certain way, they obviously can't hit the boss, so maybe
the tank needs to kind of sidestep a little bit more than you was expecting to avoid hitting
an orb, to avoid getting knocked back into one. So you really do have to adjust and stay
alert at all times on this fight as well as pumping.
Yes.
This is a DPS check on top of everything else. Yeah, so hopefully they can, you know, get
I mean so with the relatively scuffed first egg phase 53.4% is not bad. The first time we went in there we were missing 2 deep yes I believe, spend and gov and then the second time I think we read somebody going into that or we had the bloodlust early.
Yeah we had the bloodlust early and then there's no like resource pooling as well and it just based on what was the cleanest so.
No, so the boss then transitions, you know you have that downtime from the bloodlust where the boss kind of
Hoops and fiend and crashes down as an egg and then you're taking the wall up gate to cancel out the
The jump or getting knocked up into the air so you can get straight into DPS and the I mean
I think if they do everything like clean without too much rematch, it'll be like the 45 mark, right?
That's like a decent mark to start off, but then you really have to get into like the needy little
really griddle like okay how do we get this 5% lower because if you want to
face it I would say a 64 is probably comfortable where you can get so you
really want to push it towards that 40% mark rather than 45. 55-45 is gonna be
really hard to do on the second head of axe but at Bloodlust, like Bloodlust is
just that big of a cooler right you like open everything it's for the full
duration of it so obviously the same for the flower demon hunter hunters you know
Also just the extra haste so you can get your cars off and then you don't have to cancel it in absolutely massive
So we'll see how to do it. They're gonna having a quick little
Yep session if I was clear that little
And well, you know while they're having a little bit of a gap
Maybe it might be nice to have a little listening to kind of hear what they're talking about
We'll see them go through the next walks at Paul
So we will take a little bit of break and you can have listening and we will be back with you shortly
See you in a bit
get a wig of f**k
put a stagic face from that
150%
150%
wait
can you take this one and I'll fly
nah yeah
I got the DM
connection lost
yeah I got the DM
I'll zoom in on that guy
I think he
I'm fine
are you okay?
It's not a steal probably
Uh-uh useful for the shot
Uh, maybe 5 minutes maybe
Yeah I guess 5 minutes
I've got some damage guys
Oh my lord
Yeah I found the damage
Is this PI related?
Quick rank 4 guys
It's like Sanadan
It was only for being the watcher
It was just a test guys
Only for watching
We didn't have last in that temporary.
Yeah, I'm lucky.
I'm just losing.
I'm outlast.
We're outlast.
We're outlasted earlier.
Ah, okay.
10 seconds last to turn.
I
Don't know what it's cool for down for hi behind
I don't know what he said.
What did he say?
What did he say?
I don't know what he said.
What is it?
It's a birthday, usually.
Oh, it's Friday.
Oh, okay.
Did you tell him he was going to start?
I don't know.
So, he came up today, also.
Dinner, dinner, Doc.
Yeah, I like that one.
I'm going to order some dinner.
I don't think they know what Duna is
I'm scrolling into that
That's for sure
I'm doneer
How do you say Duna bro? Duna
How do you pronounce this?
Duna
It actually is Duna
But you get a little
You get a little
You get a little blip to steer
Okay bro, come on
Don't do it like that
How much do we have to dream this birdie? That's 40, right?
Uh...
Yeah...
Maybe more.
A little bit more.
Let's say 50.
It's over.
66.
Both of them.
It's over.
I can check the difference of last and potion and then almost same, 30 seconds.
I don't want to know.
Never tell me the odds.
My only hope is that execute is gonna come in a little bit, but I don't know how much
of it is.
destroy probably no I don't know they're saying it's not that big because they
don't have their bullseye stacks or something we move the stallion
we don't even I'll take it back but it's regardless that's a rough one
I'm trying to figure out some things for it
I mean it's gonna be like when I saw you on the ground because it was like so solid and I wanted to
just throw it like I just started it
Like we would start getting the bullseye stacks mid cooldowns we can like it's not low enough before that
And then we've already used our rapid fire which we don't want to use again, so we don't get a lot of stacks
It's sculpt for sure
compared to their 100% boss
I would have looked at those
I...
Imagine when we get to this faith
we get the bossing board of the...
get this bossing deck up
fucking, we'll play the second phase one for four and a half minutes
I'll give you a pop
there you go
yeah
I mean, I'm a boss up 20, and I'm a tank, but I'm one of them.
I just was a chance of going to Paladin for continuing the splits.
They said they're not least of the time, but I asked when they said no.
Well, that would make a decision for me.
Yeah, but I asked when they said no, so I put a socket on my hero kit.
Yeah, I was with the same.
Let's just put it like that, I put it on.
I can send to send and we just play the point after the turn whatever it is.
Where are you going to?
There are your fountains.
I'm revolving right now.
We found one socket base.
One hole?
Someone is.
I found one for send down.
Okay, let's not back down.
You still got the braces too?
Definitely not.
Okay.
Okay.
I can shut down instead of yelling.
I'm sure he will be here soon.
Do we have an impot on the scanner?
Yeah, you said.
Set?
Yeah, let's get to it.
And, hold on, T3.
That sounds like a check, what happened to him.
You said to them, yeah.
I think it's being run out of my best.
How do I just end up pot guys?
Are you in North?
I'm in the North.
You just pot?
I'm in the North.
I'm next to the Black Panther.
I'm in the Black Panther.
I think it's me starting out there again.
I'm done in North, yeah.
I'm going to do the same with the Potion Dragon.
There's a line up for the last batch or maybe now it's clean.
You can just do it in quicks and test the forges again.
I'm not a big fan of this.
My bad.
I failed it.
It's just...
It's just this one in your 8-bit or whatever.
It's called a hashtag in front of me.
Oh, fortunately the same also works.
I'll try that right now.
I don't even need to summon it, I know I'm lost.
Huh?
I'm gonna go to the left.
Yeah, whatever you're gonna say, I'm gonna be way lower.
I got that big, it's sooo low.
Lower.
I can actually say the crew paper as well, let's go to ship with it.
What's this?
Oh, there's a cat.
I don't know if there's a little...
No, but...
There's a cat.
it's like it's pretty big
at least for a long time
20%
what is more for all?
what is 20%?
no pot, no west
oh wait, this is rooflust?
no way
oh this is rooflust
yeah
oh so only pot is 20% of everything
that's crazy
I think it's like 33%
I don't know how it should be
I don't know if it's like a cool champion
So let's open the teleference before the last version of it.
What are we waiting for by the way?
Okay, I'm scared.
Yeah, the last update was that he reset his auto but it didn't work and since then it didn't get up to good.
Yeah, I thought he was going to use the auto, he said he was fine.
What about the relax?
This was a very good fall right, we lost it early because we were behind them, I also
I think the damage is a little bit bent
I think it's a little bit bent
There you are, I'm gonna hold on for a second
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Do you see them having a little bit of discussion currently going on a little bit of yeah
Yeah, yeah, the happenings. Just trying to make sure that they all get ready
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Oh, that's Fraggo my boy. Oh, I was like why does
I was like why does perfect don't have two set of ray frames, but that's just for the buffing of course
That's where he can min-max the little buffs. I like how all which is have completely different
I'm glad to see the boy is really set. He's not here. Well, I've met him once. He's just such a loved giant
Yeah
Viking every single person I've ever talked to about about Fraggo
it's like he's like the nicest human he really is such a great guy and he's been
competing in the race to world first for such a long time yeah he's such a
legend in the space yes mode like you're not that well known but like he goes
back towards like Roger Brown types you know like in high mall paragon that's
like where he used to be and it's like he just goes all the way back to like
that legendary girls then after the disband of Paragon which was before
Legion I believe he did take a little bit of a break but then you know he was
like damn I missed this and he came back in the shadow lens to the guys and he's
been with the boys ever since oh yeah overwatch yeah break yeah he's
which to overwatch and become an overwatch pro just like you know quick fly
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mechanically get to play yeah it's always amazing when you see people
compete at such a high level across multiple game titles especially different genres as well
you know the race to world first being in wow is very different to an FPS for example um so yeah
very impressive so is it even gub gub was an export night pro yeah it is um one of the strengths is
like being just baseline really good at games is a sort of mentality um oh my goodness okay but they
manage and just having that mentality like preemptively is just great and it's like you know if you can do pro
Overwatch or fortnite or like even if you're pro CS go if you have the materialities willing to dedicate that much of your life to
The game and you have the correct type of mindset you will just never really get get good at it
If you put enough effort in yes, but expo people that didn't put that much effort in and without the effort
Like you could have the talent, but it's a combination of talent and effort that is the killer combination
Yeah, I feel like a large portion of it is dedication right being able to kind of push to that level and dedicate yourself to it
Yeah, very very impressive, but we are on Bellaryn. So let's see how far we can push the egg and see if anything has changed as well
They're a little bit of a break in their chat. So yeah pull is
Looking really really solid to getting through the second tank buster right now
Need to make sure that they get these as cleave the bosses are very some 10% HP couple of clothes going out one
That's a little bit outside
But actually gets ring of peace back in however the boss is not perfectly under the extra
And we need to make sure that they actually get some single target on those those eggs
They do need to die otherwise you're gonna why so all the single target is going on those and the art folks
We're going straight in yeah
They do need to be careful when they're pushing Bella in here as well because unfortunately the rebirth does go off
so that was a little bit of a
It's different kind of overlap because you didn't want to push Bella and while the eggs were up because
Yeah, then they have to commit
Potentially damage when you're in the vulnerable work phase
The boss was just like it wasn't even like mis-precision like you could see bears trying to fix with a ring of peace
But it got ring of peace and then he didn't die straight under the boss like
The difference between the X being directly under the boss and being slightly next to the boss is a mess
things like tempers won't hit like hunter cleave won't go as well the axe have a really small hitbox
Major cleave might not go when the adds are directly under the boss and that's where they die and the axe remain there
Sometimes the boss moves a little bit with the tank busters. It doesn't knock back. It's inevitable
So having that extra like massive amount of cleave is just gonna make this axe so much faster
If they had death going through correctly, they would have had a really good transition, which is a good sign. You should be perfected
Yeah, and they are very much optimizing every part of this fight in terms of positioning,
the walls that they're bursting, the placing the group soaks, just every single part of
this fight is mapped out and it is chaotic.
So it's kind of like an organized hot mess is how I would refer to this fight as.
You're definitely very advised.
It's like whenever I open my inventory, it's just I have full uptime on my inventory and
make full use of it because I'm every back slot filled because the slots are
there to be filled so I am using I'm optimizing my inventory space by making
full use of it because if you have empty slots you're wasting what the
feature
That is not deserved I
I am a very clean back user. It's this wastage because you have all those empty slots that could have items in it
Okay, but I'm also doing enchanting so I obviously want to disenchant everything
Okay, then I also often I can go to the war bank and just put everything in there
But how many cookies do you have in your bag? None. That's the problem
Okay, but the same way how you say backslips are there to be filled cookies would be there to be eaten
Thank you come important arguments find your comeback for that one Jordan because I don't think there is one that the boys are going back into the pool and
The confurgence is being popped the brother being applied rate damage is being done ever gonna go get ready to soak some balls
Yeah, you can see, you know teeth going out there, popping, there's so many, it always
looks really satisfying whenever they go out and pop a load of those orbs.
You can see the two group sakes going out, they do have immunities assigned, you have
the icebox from Jinji and the tercel going out, so they don't take, you know, all that
damage with only three healers.
Ooh, do lose gum here.
And you can kind of see the quivers spawn in kind of the quills spawn in a random place,
and sometimes they can spawn in a less favorable place.
you can see it's going right in the goo on the floor left behind by the group soak.
No, one of those moments is probably unplayable, I think if you would look back then it's like
proper smooth. However, one more important thing is that those Fs have gone down, they
were perfectly under the boss and those 3 burst they got to keep through really really fast.
You can see the difference then, as what you were saying.
Like it is just so important to have them, but they're gonna have to do this with the
next sentence as because the conversion has gone through, the wall has been created,
the soaks are going straight in and they're gonna go slam down this boss.
Yeah, you got the two next immunities from perfecto and go with the ice block
Again minimizing the amount of damage going out across the raid with that as they are only three healing as they are soaking
Quills as well. So you have the next ads going out
That's what they will want to make sure that they are interrupting of course on you would only be able to interrupt
The ad that is the same color as you
And now they're going into debris birth as Bella and itself is rapidly
You know falling as soon as it reaches that zero percent
that's when we go into the phase 2 or a second first intermission where we'll turn into an egg.
Finishing off the rebirth, there you go, so we're not going to have one of those, it's very important
as they do get that initial first hit of the raid word damage, but Bellarant is transitioning
so get knocked up into the air and prevent it with the gateway. Oh, you can see Soda with the bop,
they don't want to get knocked up, positioning straight away. So the bloodlust has been sent
and this is where the damage really matters. Let's see how far they can push the egg.
Yeah, it's a little bit unfortunate that they had Charmy going down right before, which I mean, bound to happen, like there's just too many orbs going in, someone can just lose his life, but however the more important thing is it was a clean transition, you can see that everyone was able to pull up a resource for it, which is another just such a important part.
So they're just gonna give it their all, they're gonna go hit this egg, it's probably not going to end up being a new best, although it could still very well be, it's not a cleanest transition, but it was overall still a clean one.
It was indeed. I think they got it down to about 55 ish. Yeah. So again, one DPS dead, not the cleanest of transitions, but this is where the fight gets super difficult.
So going from this first egg phase back into the kind of phase one, where Bellaron is active, has been such a pain point for both liquid and echoes.
and echoes have been progressing,
you know, making sure that they're getting out
with the group soaps and the quills
of the tank frontals and the orbs,
because the orbs are bouncing,
they're kind of ricocheting off the wall.
So the previous sec can make a comeback.
Yeah, and there's just so much going on,
people are dying left, left, right, right now.
There's encirclements incoming with wall orbs incoming,
together with tank bosses incoming,
together with quills incoming.
There's some clean soaks going in,
and the boys are just trying to get some good practice
on their hands right now,
but those rebuffs also are going to have to be dealt
that both of the adds have died under the boss,
but more are also coming from the side
that need the darkened soaks to go grab them
while they are clearing the adds
and the next conversion is on its way.
Yeah, this will reassign everybody's colors,
but you can stay the same color.
It's kind of random whether you stay or change.
So it's not guaranteed that you will switch,
but unfortunately, that is a group wide wide.
But what is really exciting is that that was probably
one of the cleaner transitions that we've seen
from the egg into that second phase.
It is just so rough when you lose a DPS because it's like it's kind of one of those fights that like combat rest is kind of like a cosplay
You don't you know, it's it's not that impactful over here
Like if you want neither combat rest or one you're ready going to be like here
And if you don't have combat rest it's almost a GG like the hunter clay is so damn important
But not just the clay it's like they will just turtle sometimes so like eight orbs, right?
You see you're kind of like a thief does with the
with the leap and popping the cooly.
Hunters kind of do the exact same thing with turtle
and then just disengage or like, you know,
aspirin to the cheetah or whatever.
And it is so much clearer.
So like once you lose a hunter,
there are probably some of the worst people to lose,
but they're losing a mage as well.
Means now hunters need to save their turtles
for the immunity soaks rather than using them for ball soaks.
So it's really like, whenever I just look at the roster,
it's like, I don't know who I would want to lose.
Like I would be willing to maybe lose norclees,
but then we lose defaults and we take more damage.
nice news maybe but then we don't get the chaos panel the new ads
it's like everyone has a role in this column
maybe we could lose a shaman but then because that's just mostly some act damage
you're absolutely right it's not necessarily just kind of losing a person
but if something goes wrong you can't
always have that hero play with the immunity to fix it because the
immunities are assigned with the group zones
and of course with three healers it's more punishing you know taking the extra damage
example if you're saying you know losing our please lose in the evil or for
example taking more damage you're gonna fill that a lot more with the three
healers yeah it's they have a lot of minnex left to do because like even if
they had charmed me alive there and they got it down to you know the 50 you know
maybe like the 50% mark it's still not enough you still have to shave off it's
seven extra percent so it's gonna be interesting like what more that they
can do if they can fantasy a couple more fantasy and get a couple bit more
gear, obviously there's still a part of like they're just not getting through the
cleaning. Getting two new players in and dropping in here is a massive shift in
terms of how you have to play the phase one. It's basically reprogramming them
almost from the start. So in that sense they're getting through it very
differently. We're also just such a chaotic boss, people are gonna have to get
very very used to this. And then outside of that they need to get a couple
of good pulls, right? Like it takes you one pull, that's just like I, we have it all
lined up, we haven't figured out, we know what we want to do exactly. Down to the
global and then suddenly you're gonna see like a 45 right and then you know you
straight back and track. Yeah and what is kind of nice about this fight is that it
is a little bit of rinse and repeat you know any practice done in phase one is
gonna carry over for the rest of the fight because it is switching between
the two phases. Yeah the overlaps could be particularly difficult in certain
parts of the fight as you kind of see when they go out of the first egg phase
and into that second part of the belleran it can be really scary but you
are kind of dealing with the same mechanics it's not as if you're going
through the fight that has you know multiple different phases every phase
having completely different mechanics if is building don't get me wrong every
single phase is kind of harder somehow but yeah at least you know we're
familiar with the quills we kind of know what's going on there and we can soak
the orbs as well just making sure none of these holy orbs hit me boss that was
very well soaked of course on mythic cannot let any of these orbs hit the boss
otherwise they will do pulsing damage to the entire raid so they do have to make
sure that they stay on top of these. Of course you can only soak the same color that you are,
which is a really nice change from Blizzard. It will not necessarily change the implementation
where you can clearly see what color you are marked as. Yes, it is a really good way and like
they've definitely made it officially really appealing. But then there was a second time
of soaks, two mirrors in the way. Try them, they're sort of really low, but then that's why
they have those externals ready for those moments and the tank busters are flying in yet again.
Those S have to get under, this man has to walk out of this tank busters and he has to take the
next one but those adds are currently not stacked with a great ring of peas actually getting beautifully
under it. The team is now having to soak the quills they have to get those adds down and they have
to start working on those rebounds while the next set of tank bosses is coming in. The boss is down
to 9% HP. They need to make sure that they deal with this sequence correctly. It is very stressful.
Those rebounds are getting awfully close but they're dealing with it well. Two sets of orbs incoming
merits with the hero soaks as well. Who have you done? Convergent is happening they need to make
sure their bloodless gets pumped a little bit early but this is an all right timing. Do they get
get the orbs? Okay, no orbs. So the sequence is good. It is not the perfect blood loss,
but it is something that they can play with. It's something that they can deal with. They
have the stacks, they have some craft, and it's time to give the boss some juice.
Yeah, it's really nice. Even these tiny little optimizations like Jinji pre-casting that blizzard
so that damage is immediately going out while it's traveling to the boss. All these little
things are going to go such a long way as they're going to pump as much damage as they
possibly can while making sure that the egg does not get hit by any of these orbs forcing
across the arena as well. Let's see how far they can get it down. The best pool so far
being 53.4 but if they are planning to two-phase and you know only have two of these egg phases
they're gonna have to really really pump. Yep. Alright well they've already... At least a new
best, at least a new best. So they've reached a 50% mark that's like a good start because it wasn't
clean right and they didn't lose a lot and they had to nuke him a little bit further so they didn't
get all that resource pooling right. I'd preferably go into those with the most resource possible
which they did not get. The rate is super low right now. We do our goons end up losing Helene
they're gonna have to clear a bunch of orbs, members are dropping even lower from it. These
souls are going to be scary because people are not top for this. Hopefully they need to gain
sure that those get spotted. Double PS actually going out, above Schimeli and Snow. Snow even
dropping the after shift just to be able to survive. They are still doing it, they're still
being healthy. Ryzen has gone down though and somebody defy source escalator because now you're
down the hill. Next come across up in a minute while the quills, the balls and everything is
happening all at once. Yeah they want to make sure again that none of these orbs are hitting the
the bus but it's uh unfortunately with a lot of people there but you can kind of see just how quickly things go wrong so uh there was the two
quill soakers and they stood just a little bit too close together but with the other mechanics kind of pushing them in that direction
there's very little wiggle rooms there wasn't much space for them and unfortunately they did kind of take each other down
I think that was uh you know Ryzen and whoever the other soak was was desperately trying to find their feet in that moment
and not being very limited with where they could go
with depending on the coil spawn.
But it is rough.
It's when the first egg phase kind of finishes
and they go back into the bell around kind of active phase.
You have all of the orbs from kind of the previous falls
like holding across the room.
Those have a new set of orbs
as well as getting the group soaks out.
And of course you are in the middle of the room
and they want to make sure that they are space conserving,
right?
They want to make sure that they're dropping
groups so it's right on the edge or as far to the edge as they possibly can because it does leave
these big pools behind they want to make sure they have as much play space as possible as you
can see you know it can go very very wrong if you have very limited space so they are placing
them very precisely um but it does look like it's a lot cleaner than at least it was yesterday
because that is super difficult um are they really struggled yeah i'm not sure what's
what had led it I have to I mentioned she just like made me so like a little uh a little uh
Org a little bit early before she was top because like there must appear where everyone's like having to move for the soaps
It's just not much healing going out. I really enjoyed seeing the double ps that double pain suppression for the soaps
Making sure that even if those guys are like at 80% they're not fully topped that external is gonna keep him alive
You know like that is the big one. Maybe sometimes you get lucky and you have something like a rogue
We can really just include himself as well. Maybe that's a hunter that can like press a good turtle on it
I think they can communicate the person a little bit more because when I was looking at the rates
famous during that it was like oh this person feels a danger, this person feels a danger,
they can't line it up, they can't get out of that egg form or out of the egg face and
just be like everyone personal or just, even as I'm the health stone you know, at this
point it's like okay there's like a small 5 second gap here, while the priest is ramping
that we don't have much healing and this during this thing, everyone presses on health
stone and so the entire raid goes from 50 to 80 up to like 80 in like one button press
for everyone right? That's something we've looked at and also working on this you know making sure
that that kind of gets filled and then they can get through it even more clearly. Yeah and that's
a sign then let alone if something goes wrong which can very much happen so depending on who you lose
so a lot of fights of course it can be very detrimental to lose a player you know you're
missing damage healing depending on who dies but on a fight like this it's even more kind of detrimental
because you have the group soaps for example so you may be missing an immunity that was
assigned of course they are gonna have backups but then if they do have a backup assigned that's
one less person to go and soak the wall of orbs that is incoming because you have seen some of
the hunters kind of turtling and popping some of those orbs so if one of them has to cover the
group soak then that's one less turtle for the orbs so yeah you can kind of see how things
snowball out of control but as soon as you start losing people it's not much
damage going on the ads and the ads you know that's one nice interrupt for
example and so it can be really punishing if you lose somebody in so many
different aspects on this fight yeah I wonder if they're gonna try and redirect
the damage you face well a little bit more where right now it's like the ads
get propped into the second set of ads they can propped it to the rebirth at the
bottom like 8% HP they don't always have to clear the ads I wonder if you can make it
so that you proc those acts a little bit later, and then while the boss is doing the flying,
you can kind of finish off the act if your timing is really really good, so you get a
boss at like 5-6% HP, then kind of like you know proc the act and cleave it, the boss
goes down and then you can finish it off. I think there's a small bit of Bimax that
they can do that they're probably looking at to make sure, because again the phase one
was not clean enough, they were in there with everyone, but they had the loss early, and
they kind of want to be like 4% ahead of where they were, because then you can transition
boss get clean but you have all the resources and they had to spend all the
resources people did not have all the flurry sex ready the fire the H
might have been in meta because they have to push like it's not ideal having
that like full cleanliness that's gonna be like this thing and actually hit the
50% perfectly as well which is kind of pretty yeah they do get reassigned their
colors or maybe not kind of a random what color you get so you might stay as
the same one again getting those groups so it's out so they are again placed a
a very particular spot because the poles will kind of pulse. They didn't lose
somebody there. Maybe we didn't get the chance to eye spot but those
puddles will grow so that's why they're kind of trying to place them out of the
way as much as possible because they need as much space to work with as
possible. So from the quills as you have the tank frontal they oh unfortunately
that was like it went a little bit wrong with the tank.
the taunt swap but we have seen some pulls where the boss does kind of just randomly turn during
the tank frontal yeah there's strange there's there have been some bugs i think reported with the
with this boss there's been there's a couple of issues with the tank boss and they've been there
from yesterday and they tried to fix up a couple of them but there's some still that remain i didn't
get to actually exactly see what particularly happens i don't know if it was a bug or if it was
was just a mistake. Yeah, it could have just been a missed taunt.
They all, like, it is such a hack to fight for tanks, the tanks have just sometimes just
a cheeky little taunt here and there, like it does happen in all of the madness that's
going on. But at that point it's just a quick replay, just like what we have.
So here comes the Quill, but if so, Mara does take some damage from that cleave, but that's
okay. Did he taunt? Did he taunt? He might have taunted.
I would assume that seems like a taunt.
You know what really makes me laugh?
Narko panicking and trying to hulse away.
They're like, oh no no no no no!
When Narko stands, Narko immediately melts off of his.
It might be an elk, it just tries to kind of charge away.
But yeah, we have seen some strange things happening with that kind of tank mechanic.
So it is hard to tell whether it is a kind of a misplay or if it is just a few of the bugs that have been reported with this fight.
But I think there were some bug fixes overnight, but it seems at least earlier there definitely was something that looked a little bit strange.
A little bit skewed with just because the boss randomly faced during the tank spawn spot.
But randomly faced the players who had the puddle and just completely obliterated them.
Yeah, that was the early one today where there was a Clippy Oak, which was, Merris was walking with the beam, and it was fine, and then he stood still, and the beam went, you know, the boss was like, I'm gonna turn a little bit more, and then he hit the Soaks instead, which that one is definitely bugged.
This one, it kinda looked like it was just a taunt on over an angry situation, which I mean, can happen, so not too much to necessarily have to really think about just, you know, mistakes.
They do happen and the boss is quite active for the tanks.
Yeah, we'll be going again.
The advice and fairing focus right now, looking at the screen, it's like, hmm, where do I press my V-Jufs?
Should I go at 1 second or at 2?
There's going to be a lot more pressure on them as they are for healing.
But we did get Echo's best pull at 50%, not too long ago.
and again it was a little bit so they are popping the bloodlust a little bit
earlier to kind of transition Burren exactly when they want to transition it.
There's this behind the DPS a little bit like if the conversion goes off so like in this case they've not lost it and like 2% remaining of the boss
and the boss will support it. So basically this conversion cast finishes it then
spawns the ball and then it spawns the birds. The balls you can deal with there
ways you can give a bob, people can soak some orcs for it, it's not ideal but it's dealable.
If you get the birds it's a wipe, right? So it's like you need to beat the timer of the first
set of birds, you can't get that. And it happens in like 0.5 increments, increments, right? So it's
like you finish this course, 0.5 sex later, it's orc and 0.5 sex later, it's birds. So you have to
really really get that DPS check down and if you're behind you draw a blood loss and have a
not the cleanest transition but have a transition then you get birds and it's no transition because
you are that's a you like yeah because I keep talking about how important the
damage is out on the egg so if you get those ads you get the bird spawn then
that's damage taken off of the egg and onto the the birds which is definitely
not what you want to see because this is a very tight DPS race we are going into
another pool let's see if we can get back to the egg phase and we need more
practice going into the second phase or two you know how how are we gonna go the
different phases I'm the struggling car car phase and on the face alright leg the
leg face and then I don't know how you call I was just a birth face alright so
birthday and birthday and leg egg face you that's what we want to say I mean I
think if they can get that like yeah it's like it's one of those weird fights
to kind of cost because like you don't really see the progress if that makes
right like the progress is like oh maybe go like a new best and you say like point one off
but for the majority the percentages are going to be around like you know 50 to 45% for both of the guilds
and then the moment a guilds reaches the next act suddenly oh my god it's all not dead
yeah that's actually such a good point it's going to be the micromanaging of the spy you know the positioning of
where they're standing for example all of these things that are doing across the board you can't
necessarily appreciate too much just by looking at the boss health percentage it's very chaotic
Also, can I just appreciate Vyzen's UI? It's like he's basically just using standard frames with some additions.
He's just a default gamer, and he is just a gamer. He gets chats with it.
But in comes the dimes, Genji's doggo is really low. Tanks are being slammed, so he's going to be like,
here I have a little hot, and you have a hot, and you have a hot.
While the calls are happening, and the fights are starting to really, really bad,
make sure they get those bots, adds under the bots.
A lot of doggo pops on these, so make sure you have all of the introps cast.
cast only the same color can interrupt those ads and they are getting under
they're not perfectly stacked and the boss might even move a little bit here the
boss HP though right now is actually looking pretty solid so they're getting
a lot of the good cleave and after this tank buster the bosses kind of cast the
conversion so they need to make sure that they get the boss push going really
well but also get in the cleave 1% they do not need to loss for this they
actually are gonna have a clean transition everyone still alive clean
this is for the first time that they did not have to last they have everyone
alive and they've been able to pull. You can tell the composition numbers of stacks full
resource and in they go. This could be the new best for Echo. They are going to go give
it a good slam and they're going to make this egg into an omelette.
Yeah this is great to see of course all of their players going into the space alive and
getting the bloodthirst they want but this is uh yeah so let's see how much damage they can do.
The guilds of course are aiming to try and two phase it, two egg this fight so they really are
going to have to pump if they want to avoid that third egg as they are dodging all of the
pools on the floor making sure that they are standing in the same color that they are assigned
so they don't die because how much should we get? 49.7 okay small increments but small increments
will get you there they can definitely stand and prove for that they just have to get a bit more
comfortable maybe a little bit more Simon but in comes the craziness the crazy orbs into the wall
of orbs into the soak of the orbs there is so many orbs in total need to make sure that people
would get through this because they need to get to the markers. Immunities in the middle double
ice block, perfect to protect the cheat there, but again in food and then come to quills.
Yeah you have to be really careful with the ice block because of course once you ice block you
can't move so you have to be very confident that where you are is definitely where everyone's going
to stay as they kind of are a rush to the platform. Now you have the ring of the orbs come in towards
the boss so you will need the light players to kind of soak them to prevent them from
going into the boss. If you unfortunately lose Frago, do you have a combat rise available
the tanks are fighting for their life with the uh there we go the front tools yeah and they are
the weavers are getting a little both spend and stoke both going down side of that's probably a
thing they are pinging death of weaver they need to all focus it down single target it down
they are getting slowly through it they do have some death right now uh free death right now on
the team but it's still workable still something you can get through this is such a harsh phase
right now so the space gets cleared more immunity in the middle perfecto needs to cloak this one
I spot with it and they are getting through it. Incomes to the light orb and income even more
quills. Tank bosses going at the same time. People need to soak and they need to do the soak.
The double soaks, they do not die to it. Mergers are still alive. Orbs get close to the boss but
they are dealing with it. But these birds are becoming the trouble. Income to the set of orbs,
they need to make sure these soaks and norquilies ends up going down as well. As more tank bosses
are happening, more orbs are coming and the eds have not died yet. They need to make sure that
those eds go down. Gough ends up going down as well. With 5 DPS scanners, DPS scanners on these
these three burst can be really hard but they can do it they can single target
it through but in comes the first set of for virgin I don't even know if they
have immunity is left for this yeah this fight is just absolutely wild you can
see how crazy the orbs do get in this phase where they kind of chaosically
going across the platform yeah where are they taking these two orbs it looks
like they're going to so it's not going towards the triangle marker at the back
there but they are still you know fight for the lives oh trying to not let any of
these orbs hit the bars as they are still going but they did see a significant portion
of the second burb phase. This is again really really nice. It's a lot of progress. It's
a lot cleaner. So again because there's so much micro kind of macro level decisions and
strapped being planned on this fight you can really see it depending on how far they get
into it. All of these optimizations that are going to be running behind the scenes.
They were trying so hard to get into that second act transition because they just want to see what happens there
You want to see the secret of orbs that happened during that
Even if you get like one person that can just kind of solo heal himself into that entire phase
It's good information to have
But overall solo pool, not as much as percent shaped off from a clincher system as I would have hoped for
Maybe some globals were missed, maybe some mistakes were happened
But that is improvable, they can look at that, they can look at the logs
They can go through that and improve themselves. They can shape off 0.3% every single time. The boss will die.
The important thing is, they might have had some deaths, but they got through it relatively quickly. They almost got through it at the end.
That was one of the longest pulls that we've seen on this boss, I think.
It is, so I wouldn't be surprised if they do go into a little bit of a yap here, because they did see a considerable amount of phase 2.
But they also managed to go into the first egg phase very cleanly as we were saying they managed to use the bloodlust
for everybody with everybody alive, but also
You know for the egg phase rather than kind of finishing off better and to make sure it transitions at the correct time
So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they take a lot of the ready check does go out
It just seemed like everything is working as intended
Sometimes when you get to hide like them, that's a good pool
the best thing you can do is to take the momentum into the next part.
Sometimes it works and you have a second next pull and you're like,
I was improving. Let's go.
And sometimes you get hit with reality that you had a little bit of luck
and you're like, it is time for a little break.
But they seem to be ready and they seem to go get firing.
Quick discussion, quick yet.
Ping is like, OK, if we get those, we're going to go this way.
People will be like, OK, OK, they're definitely not going to forget this.
They will. And then they, you know, it's something to get ready.
Yeah, I wonder, is everyone ready for the app?
No, excellent pool ads for a break.
We did a ready check, fullery app session.
Pool timer, pool 10, ready to yelp.
I am so happy that we got out of this era where it's just like they pooled 25 minute discussion.
They pooled 25 minute discussion.
The classic echo moves back.
Yeah, I'm really happy that they've been kind of able to rack up the amount of pools for this boss
of pools for this boss and just really start pushing towards that area.
Yeah, again it is depending on whether there is something to be discussed or not.
Sometimes the best thing that can go wrong is someone to make a mistake because that's
easily fixable. Whereas if it's not somebody making a mistake, if it's kind of a strapped
positioning for example, you know, perhaps the soaks that the players are immuneing are really
difficult for those players to get to, you know, maybe people are struggling and missing their
assignment, those are the things that need to be discussed. You know, I can't get that kick
because I'm assigned when I'm just coming back from soaking or for example, these are the things
that will need a discussion, but you know, somebody just getting used to the fight or maybe making a
mistake where a human does happen, that doesn't work, there's not worth too much of a discussion,
there's nothing really to be said. But we are going into another poll, so let's see how far we
can get so the new best pull is 49.7 and that was with all the DPS alive that was with the blood
blast but there is still a lot to clean up yeah I think also like just the blood loss being used
on the egg is great because if you can to use it right there the blood loss of 40 seconds
egg face is 30 it gives you 10 seconds of blood loss when the boss is alive as well so you get
to actually kind of like shave off like that's a little bit of a misery like every single time I
talk about phase one right now it's like oh we're good if it could be like 2% faster 3% faster
that bloodlust is going to help a lot with that to try all the trades that happens throughout phase two
so they're having a bloodlust time it's going to be really really important in order to get them
into that second egg which again once you get to that second egg suddenly looks like the boss is
very killable because that's 49% it's going to go all the way down to like 50 like 20 15%
and then people are going to be like oh sheesh but even death getting that is rough
and the second corrosion is already on its way.
Yeah, everyone are getting to have to pay attention to their colours.
Again, very easy to see with how everyone is very clearly assigned, you know, void or light,
getting the immune soakers right in there.
The effector was in there with a turtle and an ice block.
Again, trying to nullify the amount of damage going out across the raid,
but also minimising how many people have to run out to the soak.
Not only are you reducing the amount of damage going out across the raid with the three healing,
but it also means that everybody else can stand still in DPS.
So you're maximizing as much uptime as possible because this is a big DPS check.
So if you can afford, you know, everybody kind of just being able to focus on that rotation
and not run, you know, that distance to the edge, that's going to again be really good for them
as we are going into. Oh, that was a very nice transition.
That was clean. They got through this phase one.
the groving right now it was not a fluke last pull and they are groving and
they are ready to shave off again the 0.3% so let's make sure that they can
actually do it they are gonna go in they have gateway the knockup to get all of
those important levels in every global matters you want to min match your DPS as
high as you can as you can on this little omelet over here the orbs are
coming in they get some cleans need to make sure that they get those dark ones
they can get them over there during the dark area that was a good transition
Everyone's still pumping the healers are trying to do as much damage as well. They see this drop in super low
But he gets his last second heal under
The damage is looking lower as per usual. Yeah, I wonder oh do lose my scene
We do lose a couple of DPS here. That is
66 something changed here. Oh, they didn't what last bar
But also, I wonder what killed off first that place it could just be that they were standing on the different
Hello to what they were assigned, but yeah interesting to see what happened there, okay?
Yeah, they still have a block last okay. I have a theory after this. I mean it kind of makes sense right so
Let's say we go into the first egg phase what two and a half minutes
Is it into the fight when you go into first egg? Yes two minutes
So if people are popping cooldowns on pull you're only gonna have your two minutes available
So anybody who's on a three-minute cooldown timer are not gonna have their cooldowns available for the first egg
So by the time they go into the second egg if it's on a similar timer maybe four minutes into the fight
Perhaps you're gonna have three minutes that kind of held over a little bit, but you're also gonna have two minutes coming back up
So it could just be that more people have four downs available for that second egg
Of course you want to get as much damage out within the bloodlust window as possible
Yeah, which means sending as many cooldowns as possible because the the damage does matter at all stages
you can't just hold all of your cooldowns in the bird phase because you do need to make sure that
you are transitioning it into the egg phase as fast as possible at a specific time. So you can't
all just sit there and wait and hold on to cooldowns. So you are going to be sending everything on
Paul. So it could just be that the second bloodlust in the second egg is lining up way better with
cooldowns. I wonder if this was almost a test? That's kind of my theory. So they did a bloodlust
because they wanted to know how low they had to get the boss, right?
Maybe the satirian is like, what if this two phase ring isn't real?
What if this is too much of a DPS check?
How much can we actually do with a good transition without blood loss and just RCDs?
If you get the boss to, let's say, 65%, you know, you can do 35%.
But that means you need to get the boss down to 35% on this burn.
And right now the setting is 49, Liquid has gotten into 43.
that means you get 7% lower, how much can you min-max, like where does that end, like where does
the hope of, obviously they can min-max this one more as well, but then you're looking at like a 60-40
type of split, it's still another 3% you have to get off, it's a rough one, it's not easy.
Especially as Liquid's best pull will be from their entire day progressing it, so that's not
necessarily, you know, Echo are just starting, so you can probably knock off some percentages people
get more comfortable with the fight but you know liquid to kind of end their
progress day at 43.2% is probably more of an indication of closer to how much
DPS they are capable of outputting as opposed to you know I mean they can
always find damage it can we get more and more comfortable but yeah that it's
quite a lot to knock off right it is more that like even liquid right now like
you know with getting the better and the better and like pulling like a hundred
12 pools with max item level all of those things
They still need to shave off like another like good six seven percent
Seven eight percent. I'm just gonna say that even though it might be wrong. Just so that I find the number
There's a lot like that's a lot of min max it's like at that point
You're just looking at gear and fantasies pretty much and that is not things you really
Wish to commit because I'm worried if they have to fend for the birds
They're not gonna be able to find this Lura and then does Lura even end on the week?
Oh boy, I'm gonna think about that. So I am wondering at this point if they're thinking as I do
We just go back to four healing and try to triple lag is because
What's the pitfalls of three egging it?
Uh, that you have to do phase one again
And uh, burp phase
It gets scary and it's like
If you get to the third egg and about the egg is like a 10 percent
You don't need to get everyone through it right. You can sex on people. You can check out the soaks
you can have people pop these on the boss or on the eggs, you know, just get through it, but there's a lot of damage.
And like right now I feel like it's just lacking. And I don't even mean just from the acro temp, I feel like is this possible?
Can you actually two-faced this egg? It is, it is honestly quite ridiculous. This is, this seems rough.
It is really fun to go along with them though. This is exactly what we wanted.
not only are we looking at quite a spectacle of a fight with how chaotic it is, how much
personal play it requires from every single player, including the tanks gaming out of
their minds. But there are so many optimizations, a macro level and a micro level, so much strategy
that is going into this. Every single player is going to be working behind the scenes within
the fight. And this is exactly what we wanted. This is exactly what they wanted. And finally
we're getting to that point in you know midnight season one with the two final
bosses March and Pearl Denies where we are really kind of seeing Blizzard
capable of putting out some tremendous fights we've seen it in the past and now
we're really seeing it because this fight is intense. I was very worried during this
expansion that we're not gonna have difficult bosses again. I am so sorry to
personal my god this boss you're gonna start looking at like a 200 pull on
this boss and that is a lot do you think that Bella and might fall today it
could it could it's half nine or 20 to 10 right now it it would be at the end
of the day if it's going to fall it definitely could I would definitely
soon have been see a second good burn at some point during this day it's just a
question of is that second group burn that going to be a kill burn or is it
going to be a realization that we are going to have to do a third burn and
then I'm kind of just wondering it's like okay if we need the third burn anyway
isn't at that point just better to just bring it back the fourth healer like we
did see like this intermission or the act phase without the blood loss it's not
easy to heal like your healers have a lot less ramp your vestibule does not
have as much haze and get all those hops out they were almost dying due to a
a spark partly due to a neck of healing maybe like a popsicle or something like that but
it was not easy to tree heal that phase without blood loss so having to think that you have
to do that second phase completely without blood loss then it's kind of spooky already
in my mind it's interesting yeah so I'm kind of looking at it if they are planning you
know and it is possible to be able to two egg phase it and they can kill the boss within
that second egg. They might be closer in terms of playing with fight than we think because
we did see them get quite far into the second bird phase. And you know, if we follow the
timeline of the fight, they just have to get to the second egg. And then then then we can
find damage. But we know, you know, the guilds are very, very good at finding damage. But
the challenge right now is kind of going through the motions of the fight itself. But phase
one bird is a cleaner of course still having some you know with pain points
here and there because it's still very difficult but we did see quite far into
you know bird phase two yeah so how much left for the fight is for them to
progress because it does seem like they've worked out quite a lot in that
bird phase too much cleaner than it was yesterday I think the biggest
point points gonna be is getting there consistently because there's some ops gonna
hit the boss some ops gonna hit the tank some ops gonna some DPS is gonna
the flop and then it's no longer clean and although you can have your like in
moments of collectliness like they're two really good back-to-back pulls that
second birth phase they have the shape of quite a bit like obviously there were a
lot of depth there it wasn't a clean the second phase one they got through it
really nicely but they also got the first conversions which that's typically
the one that you want to skip right you want to only get two sets of soaps
because otherwise they're gonna start running out of invidities and frankly
too many mechanics just start happening at that point so they need to make sure
that they get back to that point they then really progress that thing
correctly they've got those people early while making a DPS check I am just
worried like my biggest pain point right now is I don't believe in double burn I
do not think currently with what we saw that double burn is going to be possible
within like the next hundred pools. If they are okay going for like a 300
pool or suddenly they're gonna send like a lot of upgrades or they're all
phantas or things like that, I will then believe right like if they all phantas
suddenly like this 49 becomes 44 and then it's a mid max that they can get it
under the subparane and the other burns are gonna be better then I will believe.
But if they're gonna try and do it with this gear I have my skepticism on the
double burn and I can imagine that it's going to slowly turn into a double burn
maybe even just try to like block us the second like the first phase one to get
through it fast to get to the third egg and then try to do like a smaller one.
I also wonder you know are we basing this on the earlier pulls I mean I know
we're on pull 96 now so that's technically not you know an early pull but we
still are very very early into play. I mean a fight like this is gonna ramp up
the pool camp because you can wipe very quickly even at the start and fights
like that. That's why it kind of time spent on a boss can be a good metric as opposed to pool count,
but this might can go very very wrong so early, so it can be very very quick to run pop the pool
count. But in terms of you know how far they actually are getting into the fight, they're
still pretty early. So it could just be there's so many more optimizations left to be done. So
are we getting an accurate representation of how much damage they're capable of outputting yet,
or is it still too early? They weren't getting comfortable with the fight, you know, positioning
with the puddles and everything else yeah they they can min-max so much like i mean we saw this in
so far that's right i think so far as much to fight where it's like they barely managed to get it they
managed to min-max a five percent of boss hp out of the blue right like they can they can min-max
globals like i have not worried that they could find so much more damage it's just how many pools
are you gonna be able to do that for and the thing with so far since there was a lot less
like the finalists was a dance, and a dance, and a dance, this guy is like, you're trying to break dance on top of Mount Everest
like it is not an easy dance, it's not a dancing good situation
but there is obviously still situations that you can learn and we are seeing it
they are getting through this nicely, the bellarans are running down again to 1% HP
they have a couple of the eggs going off, they have not yet used a combat threat
I'm super ready to have to sit on the floor
Yeah, see that was a little bit unfortunate there because they did need to make sure that they're getting the birds down
But one did unfortunately get their cast off again
Yeah, you kind of see how fragile this entire fight is not just from positioning with the
Mechanics, but also if the DPS is slightly less
Just just so slightly because they're gonna be dedicated in the minimal amount of resources to you know the ads
But they still need to die
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So they have to redirect a little bit of the single target, a little bit more onto those eggs, and then they would have had one of the cleanest transitions we've seen so far.
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Just keeping everyone on their toes, you know
So it doesn't seem that Jinji has gone arcane
When he changed my to the cooking just noticed though. Yeah, I think that is literally happened this pool might the cooking command
I was waiting for this. I'm not gonna lie. I
Really, I really did think we would see our pain on this fight
I've been saying that since the start.
Arcane is probably like one of the best specs in the game and also I believe it's just a
Genji favorite.
I think the guy just loves Arcane.
It's also a case that has a little bit of cleave, but also really really good snap burst
funnel.
Also XP is a little bit high though.
They actually are going to have to get some good pump going in here because the Confrugis
start is going to start very soon, but it's still at 4% and there's also 2x under it.
Loss is now down to 3% the Confrugis start and cost is happening.
Can they track this off just in time before without losting?
Looks like they can all right. They did have one of the shadows go down, but he has a little beautiful little egg
He's back up beautiful time to actually get all your rebuffs in and get ready
We are going to be seeing the Jinji or K maids transcendence right now, and here we go
It's the bloodlust pop. I might be holding it again. Maybe it has been they have pop bloodlust
So let's see how much damage they can deal this again when they didn't pop bloodlust
It could have been a science pool. They could still be science even now
We're not sure but it will keep an eye on when they do actually, you know use their blood lust when they're trying to go
For the kill, but it'll be very interesting to see how much damage they can put into the egg while the blood lust is active
I mean, this is huge
It's looking nice and clean 46
Oh, they have a definitely a new best again. It's what I said you shape of a couple of percent
It's looking clean, but they're shaped of a full 3% instead of 0.3 this time
But so many off reduce this kind actually going down. They still they do not actually have a battle recipe available for him
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But yeah, that was a new best pull from Echo, 46.7%. That was quite a push.
Was it just the Genji Diff at that point? The Arcane mate. I feel like Arcane would be really good.
because you have like the actual little bit of Cleveland funnel for the ads, right?
Like it does do really well.
And you also just have the big CD window.
It's going to be interesting to see if God was going to be like,
oh, I'm going to go try it as well,
or if he wants to play the keeper main claim to Frostmage.
I don't know how much difference there is in gear, either.
Yeah, so it'll be interesting to have a little look
to see how much passive Cleveland in general
that God is doing on the Frostmage to the ads.
Because again, you don't want to redirect too many resources
off of Felaryn. The abs do need to die, they are a priority, but they are trying to hit that push window, trying to push Felaryn, you know, during the void convergence cast. So you want to make sure you're pressing the boss at that point. And you can see that it is very, very close. So it's not like they can afford to, you know, take too many resources off of the boss.
But the adds also need to die.
So it just depends on how much Cleave's gub is doing.
But it does seem like Jinji has gone back to Frost.
He had a little bit of a science pool.
So Frost has a consistent damage profile.
It does have Ray of Frost, which is very bursty.
It doesn't have icy veins anymore,
but it does have a cooldown in Ray of Frost,
which can be pretty good for the egg phase.
But with Arcane, Arcane damage profile is burst,
and it also has funnel,
which deals more damage to your priority target,
depending on how many targets are around it.
So, you know, more damage on bellarum
just because it adds some adds in the phase.
So it's interesting to see
how the different damage profiles may work.
It's almost good to experiment a little bit, you know?
Like you can't go wrong with experimenting one pool
and then you just be like, okay, wasn't it?
Could have been, but it wasn't.
It's always really hard to tell though.
Have you ever, you know,
tried a different spec or a different class?
You played that one time and you definitely not,
I'm not saying you're using playing optimal,
But it always goes very wrong until you kind of get back into the swing of it and then you can have more of a science pool
I would say if you haven't played it that much in the expansion it's probably like a
Do it the next morning tap-sharing because you can hit the dummy a little bit in the evening
It's a little bit bummed up
But also believes that he probably did play it like overall pretty good
But it probably just looked at something and it's like okay like this is like, you know
Maybe it's like in the cleave or maybe it's like the damage to make the push easier
there's probably some reason for it maybe it was just something that's like
really clear it's like even if I optimize this by 5% war it's just gonna be worse
but overall they're looking through it relatively difficult to get a bell around
it's already kind of low he's even sort of conferred you guys even sort of a
tank boss the end the boss is super low at this given point actually already
they're only 1 minute 40 into here and they're clean off yeah that was crazy
damage getting that gateway down so that they can all nullify the knock up
and get straight to the egg as the bloodlust has been popped.
Okay, so the best pull so far was 46.7%.
We had a few spec changes.
So let's see how much they can do on this intermission.
Of course, making sure that the colors are popping the same orbs
that they don't touch the egg.
That is one of the mythic changes on this fight
as they are trying to get out as much damage as possible.
Unfortunately losing Suri here,
but they do have the battle res and getting up straight away.
Yeah, the timing here was really weird because they actually got the bosses down super, super early, so the two minutes weren't even ready for the original new.
They actually transition a little bit early, I think Merus even tried to move it out.
I don't know if somebody may be like misclicked like a CD or if they're having a little bit of a different plan going on,
or like, let's actually make the transition a little bit faster, get through this phase,
because they are into the phase 2 phase, the second phase right now, which has been absolute carnage.
absolute carnage. So you see double eyes, but going out,
Trommie, even probably the survival of the fittest to make sure he stays alive.
And the tankbusters are on their way, having to deal with the quills, the
souls, the tanks, and income soon, the orbs.
Yeah, and this is where things get a little bit sketchy. It's always going
into this second bird phase. You can see they are
boiled orbs this time, but unfortunately,
ooh, I wonder what went wrong there. Was that an orb into the boss?
An orb has hit the birds. Oh, and the ball pads hit the birds.
I mean that is one way that you can very much have a raid wide white but I didn't see any
that were close to the boss but it could have just been an angle thing.
Oh I'm just blind. I didn't see it personally either but I know the balls were going that way
because these were actually a little uncertain. I also wonder maybe if somebody didn't soak a quill
maybe that was but then would that just kill the player or would that cause damage onto everyone?
Unless somebody moves out of the quill last second before the soak went through and then
and the person would perceive it but he still has a circle around it and he won't shot everyone in melee, also possible.
Yeah, well, I mean I can understand it. Take down all of your melee, that sounds like a good plan.
But it was... I'm curious if somebody missed pop CDs early on because that transition was fast, like normally they get the tank buster and then the conversion costs.
They were literally 10 seconds faster that pull than they normally are and 10 second shaving off like that is very odd if you don't pop extra CDs or if somebody doesn't like
use something extra. Maybe they just have to trace this damage and they just need to make sure that
they direct the boss out a little bit faster so you don't get the teeth on the axe. But it definitely
went a bit early and then people aren't ready for it. You don't have all the pooling and then if
you don't have the pooling and your sleeves come up earlier you're then using all of your pool without
the CDs. It's just this good. Yeah, we'll be interesting to see. Alright, seems to be a little bit
of the app going. But what you said is actually a really good point. Going into the egg phase,
well you don't have your two minutes available can really show how again this fight is very very
techy because if you transition it just even 10 seconds too early you're not going to have your
cooldowns ready and that's 10 seconds of bloodlust that you're essentially you know not optimizing
yeah but you don't have cooldowns ready you don't have cooldowns back i mean the bloodlust
will persist throughout the bloodlust it's just if you let's say or a shower and you have a full
full millstone board going in, you're ready to element blast it, you then pop it, and
then because you're not in descendants yet, right, so it's just a naked elemental blast,
that's gonna be the same thing for the hunters, they're gonna use all their charges of aim
shots before the true shot is active, it's the same thing with arcs, they're gonna be
using their resources to buff people up, but they're not in the coolest yet, so it's just
so many small things go wrong, including like you know, like a part of your potion and all
of these things, it's just less comfortable and also there's more walking at the ends
than at the start because the balls come in and you have to touch the balls as well.
So there's just too many small extra things and it's just going to take the damage and
they are trying to min-max the micro percents, right?
They are trying to push every single global to be picture perfect.
Hello very much, Nito on this fight.
This is a very very tight DPS check as we are desperately trying to, you know, to egg
it.
The egg.
The egg.
Time to do.
But yeah, it could have just been perhaps somebody sent a call down at the wrong time
or again, they're science thing.
Maybe we can assign this call down to Bella and before going in and that might pay off
or put that person on a better call down timing for the rest of the fight.
It could be that the ads on the boss needed to transition a little bit quicker, but they
have more damage than they thought they would have.
There are so many things happening behind the scenes on this fight.
It is wild.
that's why you know it's so important for them to have these analysts have these
outside help and have you know the outside people kind of looking in
because while they are playing and learning a very very complex very very
difficult fight they can have everybody else kind of running the math kind of
you know looking at and juggling the cooldowns as this is gonna be a wipe I'm
I'm pretty sure
I don't know what happened there
That was weird
Yeah, he was following T
Ah, and he then leaps out and then I don't think it hit anyone
I'm not sure
Yeah, I'm not quite sure what happened there
But what I can be sure about is that something went wrong
That is true
Definitely something went wrong
But that's okay, because plenty of things are going to go wrong on the boss like this
But we are going to be trying to see if we can find a little replay of that, but meanwhile
we will be preparing for the next ball.
It is just, it's like how long does this, you get how long does this to the last phase.
You're ready to bomb our arm, here you go, and then you spend the next 10 pulls at phase
1 because bomb go, goes boom.
Oh no, we've got two fights that are remnant to the long dress.
It's like, or it's like fear, it's like perfect transition into the last phase, it's the lowest
bosses ever been. Incomparable, it's Kaboom, right? Like, Kaboom bosses have a high wipe
count. It is inevitable because when boss goes Kaboom, you go Kaboom. And then it's a wipe.
Yeah, but yeah, well, hopefully we don't get any more of those earlier wipes. But again,
they are still trying things out. You can see them still kind of distributing their damage
slightly different every single pull. As we're pushing a little bit quicker than usual,
we're also managing to shave off loads more damage on the egg. We are popping bloodlust,
we aren't popping bloodlust, but that's all part of progress. It is kind of working out when there's
the most optimal time to pop in, put on cooldowns. Is it better to kind of bloodlust the very first egg
or is it better to bloodlust the second egg because you are going to get a little bit of execute,
for example, but you're mostly execute, excellent. And you're also going to be, is this okay? No,
Yeah, I don't like it. Two of them got sniped, I think, by feather.
If you have two dead at this point, they're at the point where they can do phase one clearly.
They can even almost get through phase two, but in order to get through phase two cleanly, they need everyone alive.
She needs a clean phase one, but no deaths. Get into your good act burn.
Get the act least sub-50, do phase two, and then that's where the progress really lies.
And they got really really far into that phase. They got to the third set of dives. They played past that and we're getting towards the fourth set of birds
So they can play that phase, but they need to get there with everyone alive a clean transition up to the egg
Get ready to show all those balls which they went through once but they have all this kind of loss at least like one two people
I want to see them get past the phase one, past the burn
Into that phase two and then when all of the balls kind of like encroach into the boss while it's causing a conversion
don't lose somebody there and then healthstone because that's like one time
we saw kind of get to that but they were all like 20-30% at that point everyone
just healthstones everyone's healthy and get a good
going. And yeah it's kind of interesting to see you know getting like when they're
gonna use the blob blasts in the second egg you're gonna have more of those
cooldowns available but there's things that we're gonna be keeping an eye on but
we are going into another pool so let's hope that we can get a little bit further in.
I'm just so happy to just chapelling it's just like go go like we know what we're doing we just
need to get there. Yeah there's a lot of uh you know we just need to see the damage really we need
to really kind of get there see how much damage we can shave off at the end because we're still
kind of working out whether we can do a gear which they are pretty confident about but
how I mean you're not confident about it. I I mean I know skepticisms but my skepticisms don't
don't always have to be right and that's completely fine because again like it might
just be that they want to get it as low as possible and that they might not even be that
interested in actually tune-facing it but those are the little things that we call here we'll
just have to figure out maybe we can borrow them like during lunch like how it's going,
how you're feeling, can I sit there with like our ears open listening, trying to spy, figure
out all the small little increments but the more important thing is that they are still
progressing they are still learning to fight there's so much more to be in fact and they're
kind of getting through it they're not wiping anymore really at the start of
that phase two although they just did but we ignore that one because so far in
the second version it is looking clean we're gonna get the next set of open
strokes over here very soon the ball balls are incoming they need to get the
soaps they need to get the balls cleared and they need to deal with those
quotes yeah take in the soaks out again using their immunities
and we've got the ice block for some of those orbs getting very close to the boss. Unfortunately, we do lose Mires as well, so this is probably going to be a lot there.
Maybe they can still try and carry out. We're not going to get too much information here with one DPS dead, but we still can get practice on the fight.
see those light orbs really rapidly going towards the boss at the same time as that tank soak was
going out and the quills being soaked making sure that they aren't colliding with the opposite color
we do unfortunately lose soul so it's two damage dps dealers down as we do need to make sure we're
finishing off velarin with four nql spawns okay so we do get the same transition uh let's see how
much damage you can do the egg i would i would like to see them just not even care about the egg
damage right now just save blood loss and just pop blood loss on the actual boss try and see if you
if you can go into it. They obviously ignore everything that I just said and they pop the
blood loss anyway.
I don't know if they did, did they?
Oh, they did, yeah.
They say the debuff is right there. I've learned Gigi Jui now, so I don't know if they did.
I was looking at the wrong place.
Yeah, no, that took me like the last time when you called it out for me and it was great,
but they're going to go for the Burner. They're still going to just try and get it. You learn
your GCD, you learn your movement, you learn all the little, little minnexes, and obviously
the damage isn't even looking that bad. They still have 8 more seconds of nuke and the
is down to 58% HP but this is obviously considering that two hunters are down for the countering
this which those would have been it would have overall been a really successful burn but this is
the big focus part this is the part that they've been struggling they have always lost one person
here look at the army of five bosses coming from behind stove dropping super low they did end up
losing narcolees here that was ridiculous yeah it's always when they come out of that first egg
phase there's so many orbs going across the platform so to be really really careful as well
it's kind of crossing the room taking those puddles out to place them very on the very edge of the
arena to make sure that they aren't dropping those ever-growing pools you know restricting even more
of their very limited play space all right making sure that they are soaking the quills without kind
of getting anyone else but you do have these circular void orbs you can see uh them desperately
trying to soak the orbs they don't go near the boss yeah all right very nice they have really
tried to ensure that like people say they've walked away simply for oh my god man is that
are so sketchy but they are getting through it they are trying to bomb all these little
Vibers but the Vibers might be going through yeah that's just a deep estimate right there
that's the double hunter that you're missing yeah you can see how uh it can be very very
well you know challenging if you lose certain specs because if they are particularly strong
of dealing with certain parts of the fight losing them can be quite significant in comparison to
somebody else dying but yeah the double hunters are doing a lot of work on those ads so losing
two of them is less than ideal. It's interesting to me that so you have the encircling orbs incoming
and they're not fixated on the boss they kind of just go in and then they you know they just kind
of hit the middle. Theoretically you could move the boss move it out of it and you don't have to
throw the other thing. The issue is it is so bad to move this boss because we just walk across
different spots and different orbs and the tank bosses and it's going to be bad with the quills
So they've kind of opted is like we're just gonna try and soak it
I meant to think to see if they're gonna try to do a movement thing, which I think they have tried already in the past
So I think the problem is stick with just try and soak it
It's just a lot of also it but like they finish the egg off and then there's a lot of white
Obsolving the doing great and then we look the camera turns and there's just only of six balls just converging to it
And like how do you deal with that?
Like, what? Blizzards? That's just mean!
No, I think it's deserved, you know what?
After everything that we've all been saying about how easy this rate here is,
which, you know, the previous bosses did fall very quickly.
I mean, true, but like...
Now they've gone alright!
Loraculis literally went and got down with the president and just ran into six of them
and tried to get them all out of the way.
That was unfair, that was crazy.
But we do see the players have gone for a little break.
Ah!
a little a little cacti discussion going in. Yeah a little five minute break, may
perhaps excellent pool lads. I mean we have seen some of their best pools so far,
not just in terms of percentage of the eggs but also they are transitioning into the second bird
phase much cleaner than we have seen. I know I keep saying it but I feel like it's very important
to reiterate because even though they did have quite a few DPS dead in the pool that we just saw,
they again kind of went through into the second bird phase a lot smoother than before. Still losing
people still looks like chaos but less so than you know everyone immediately dying because the
the boss is hitting any of the orbs at least they are you know managing to survive a little bit later
but i do think while the players are getting a drink it might be good for us to get ourselves
refreshed as well so please don't don't go away we will be right back continue the pulls
I'm watching Disraceables first with all of you.
Beep it!
Can't be full of lies
Yeah, it's never easy to find what you want
And if you should find it, don't dare to let go
If you hold on tight
Promise you'll be alright
I've been searching
For someone for all of your lies
every soul every season lives outside of status quo
if you stop believing and then to the beat
expanding our abilities
if the past is gone we are doing it wrong
baby you and I, baby you and I are starving now
So maybe we should start it now
Cause we all need to have this life
On a life that won't ever crack
I don't want to waste my time
So maybe we should start it now
Maybe we should, maybe we should, maybe we should
Maybe we should, maybe we should, maybe we should
And welcome back to the Vacial Further Bounds by MD. We are back to watch some more omelettes
if I get fried. What is your preference in how you have your egg? Okay. Scrambled? So
I am not a fried type. I don't like a fried egg. I don't mind a fried egg, but I'm okay
with it I am definitely if I have to take my fullest preference it's either a
ball or a scramble all right I'm gonna pick scrambled as well that's what we
want to do with the egg on this fight yes full scrambled full shambles but are
you the mullet had it will have like a scramble with some beans what do you mean
beans make everything better you can't put beans on anything okay okay I can
hold my bed okay I know it was beans with a steak beans and steak is good I
have never heard of a big with a singular broccoli with a single that's
what you did for me why was it is it did you just say I have to make it a bit
healthy or yeah there was that also that was what I had left one floor you
have to use it I don't know how I got one floor it left okay like what happened
before that we don't ask questions I am asking the questions of the importance
right now. There's nothing to see here. There's even a pool that we can switch to.
We need like a sauce counter. Tell me about Ellie Shaman because they're really blasting
on this fire. No. We need to work production on like a sauce counter. So we can determine
the amount of sauce between the zero to a hundred whenever Jordan starts speaking about
the food. Just whenever I start speaking, I think I've been very well behaved. We're
You have been talking about portable crafts.
Oh, okay. Talk about the biggest of food buffs. The coffee buff has arrived.
Oh, you know what is really cute? I love the fact that all of the players have a stream deck on their desk
and they have their buttons coded for if they want a break, if they need to use the bathroom,
if they want a drink, if they need water, and they press a little button and then that's it.
and that's it, they get their little delivery.
So Stowe have been delivered a fresh coffee.
It has been completely settled that they can press a button
that goes through a Discord channel
that is read by, with Michelle around here,
who is absolutely lovely.
The Red Bull Fairy.
The Red Bull Fairy, whose entire job
is to make sure that the raiders are well taken care of,
which does families leave, thank you, Michelle.
Yes, just so much.
So they literally just press a button
and a drink shall appear or a snack shall appear.
I don't think it works with massages, that would be like the next level step is like you know Kate
I would say by me by the way like I would walk around stuff and be like yes you are the best element to show in the world
You do in great ways
Is this a shaman thing?
No I think it's just a mean stoofing thing
I would give so but I could not have asked if you asked for it, that's no problem
You know when you're carrying with the damage you're just gonna need that massage
That's what I'm saying
Those shoulders are gonna be pretty weighed down
call him the egg fryer that's his job I mean that literally is why they're
running an alien by the way. The egg scrambler. The one that's the title. The one
alien is there to give the raid buff. The second alien is there to fry the egg.
What? Why are they both not frying the egg? Well I mean they both are but like you
would still run one even if it weren't frying the egg. So he's there for the
raid buff right? So that's how it works. Okay that makes sense.
Lies little external for Markleys over there for Stove. Make sure that he stays alive.
Oh no, you have seen these overlaps happen so often. It's so unfortunate. Yeah, Mera is getting knocked into one of the Orbs that has the opposite colour leading to his demise.
I do have another tank frontal which does not keep back. You have to be very careful with this.
Oh, there we go. That was a wanted change position of the boss this time.
So, balls are incoming, confirmed this is on its way, and we're prepping ourselves for the beautiful little Bumper to Bing.
Yeah, they did manage to push the boss into the first egg phase very nicely there.
We do have Bloodlust available, every single player alive.
So, let's see where they pop in the Bloodlust and how much damage they deal to the egg of Ballerina as it rebirths.
So, every single player will have to make sure that they're standing in the same color that they are marked with.
otherwise they will unfortunately die.
So while also soaking all of the orbs
that they do have to deal with,
that is an unfortunate orbs soak there
with the void part of the room kind of covering
that whole thing while the light soaker
was desperately trying to, you know, remove them
because they can't hit the egg.
Yeah, it is a very, very scary thing,
but they're getting for it nicely.
They did set it up loose Genji at the stores,
which is a whole bunch of them.
This was actually a really nice nuke
concerning that Mike went down
pretty much instantaneously on that.
I'm not really sure what happened to him. I think he just got hit by the wrong one, maybe all of them.
Yeah, unfortunately some of those void orbs going into the boss there. So this is kind of the transition out of egg phase 1 into bird phase 2 is really rough.
You have so many orbs going across the platform and there was the three void orbs that were going across the room that weren't soaked by a void player unfortunately.
Yes.
They then went into the boss, which is the mythic change on the site. Cannot let any of these orbs hit the boss.
No, you don't want to damage across the entire raid. Just less than ideal
Okay through healing
Like I look at this fighters. I'm like, damn. This is so much to heal
I wonder if they want this like three egg it with like a five you like I feel like the four here was it baits
Because they've got to the point that it's like I would almost rather five you and then
and then like 5 heal and go for a 3 egg
but then I was thinking like maybe 3 heal and go for a 2 egg
but I didn't think it was possible and here we are
cause it's so weird, it's like the phase 1 is so hard
it's like you don't really want to do a 3rd phase 1
cause there's already more mechanic happening in the 2nd phase 1
I really kind of want to see them just get past the 2nd egg
and then just survive for a while
just to see what shenanigans are going to occur
That's a food knife.
I don't want to say that.
Well, because we have seen, you know, again, that the transition from first egg into the second bird is really tough.
Yeah.
And yeah, you could be absolutely right, you know, transitioning from second egg into third bird could be even worse,
because the fight does escalate as you're going on, but the orb is kind of ricocheting off of the wall, kind of existing in the arena still being super rough.
So the longer there are times spent in that fight the more chaotic it's gonna get because also you have the two groups
Soaks that go out the light and the void that do leave puddles on the floor behind
So you do have that space management going on
So the fight is only gonna get more difficult and it already starts off as we've seen many a times
It already starts off very difficult, but I don't know what's happening here. Oh, no. Oh, no
Oh, no, please. I'm not gonna be split or clocked. Oh
Oh, do you think that's what's happening? No comp changes, but actually splits.
Oh no.
Jinji looking very happy. It looks like a milkshake. I don't think it is a milkshake, but it makes
me happy thinking that it is a milkshake.
It looks a little like a milkshake. But the fact that Jinji is on Jinji Alt.
Oh no. Don't do this to us Echo. We have spent nine years in splits.
At least.
At least.
There's there's one good thing to all of this, okay? Are you ready? All right?
Please tell me that it's my con next no it is
Okay, sorry Alex and crew
So they are assembling a bunch of characters
Scribe has hit the gun and it's going like guys. They've run the math for the DPS. What about a split?
You know what I think is a an addiction at this point
So it's looking to be a Fortspire, that's what I'm trying to do, now there's two, there's
three choices they can go, or absolute favorites, Heroic, which would mostly be probably Alira
if they're gonna do it, I would imagine that a Heroic Alira could be okay, a new mythic
split, to try to either gear someone that's currently in, or to gear something up that
they want to run on it, like maybe they're like, oh the second midge is really shitty,
We want the third arc or something to try and get that or option three, which could be a little bit cool
continuation of a split because paladins
They did get there they got a little bit of the boing on they made the fight a little bit easier a little bit less
Compt requirement, so now you don't need to run triple miss weaver. Yeah
You don't have the avenger shield going out on play eight players now
Which is what kind of it was the difficulty curve of that fight needing those eight dispells
We saw the misweaver revival doing huge work on that fall on that fight
But the warlocks needed to dispel the healers had so much pressure to dispel as well because the avenging shield went out
So often on that fight so now only targeting four players is a significant difference
Yeah
It made the fight was something about easy, but also just they have way more now it's a council
Yeah, like now it's really comfortable because like last time they promised it was like 269 they are 278
They've got a 9 item level and outside of just like nuking down the bosses the amount of HP is gonna make it a lot easier
Leave a lot of how easy and there I would be at that point
It's always still frozen a little bit of a challenge. So I'm mostly just curious of like
What are they gonna do are they gonna gonna do a fresh new spin like I haven't I didn't get to see much of them
I don't know which characters were used, I can't remember the things.
I was wondering if this is Mythic, I was trying to look at the skull in the top right corner.
I see 20M I believe.
Yeah, oh the 20M, yeah there you go, so this is on Mythic.
So I wonder if this is a fresh split, I mean all the trash is alive.
We kind of have an idea of which characters were in on the um, on Bellarant.
bell around so again like there's kind of two things right under it's gonna be
continuation it's gonna be a new fresh one to give up a new character they want
I think it is a fresh one it does okay it's definitely fresh one but I was
saying there's fresh right here well yeah just because usually the instance is
locked yes right so they if they went in they'd have to accept the bosses with a
dead because when you walk into a mythic group that have already killed
some bosses you have to accept you know the fact that you have to accept the
look out on your character in order to continue. It's in plot so with all the
trash alive I mean for instances can be reset so that doesn't necessarily you
know say too much but yeah I am pretty sure this is a this is a fresh split.
So I'm just kind of curious with the try so like this there's two things right like
they can try and give someone new so they can be like we want the mage out maybe
the second mage isn't working that well they really want like the arc for it or
I think we want another mage, no we don't need more mage, we need more shaman
Jordan, I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but the first person to go but in that comp is the mage
What? You're saying such things
I am sorry for ruining your...
You ruined my whole day
I am so sorry
So it's one of those hunters in right now?
Yes I kind of want to go over to the desk
I think I might hop over to the desk real quick while we keep yappening and I'm gonna see if I can spot any of the names
All right
If we can make a prediction happen. Yeah, do you want a
A route so you can safely get over to the desk or are you gonna manage?
Okay, if you go like
Three degrees north
Okay, they just ignore me
My ridiculous instructions.
Alright, well I mean, so it could be interesting to see what they're going to be switching in and out, who this split is for.
Hello Cana.
Hello.
I'm also surprised, well I'm not surprised, they had a lot of time last week, to kind of see or have the characters available in order to be able to do a mythic split.
because as you know, going into mythic difficulty, your lockout is restricted to the group that you went into mythic with, so you can't just re-kill bosses like you can normal and heroic, yes you will be locked, but you can still go in with another group and fight the boss even if you kind of reduce potentially how much Luanza dropped because you're already locked.
Um, but yeah, on Mythic you're gonna need to find 19 other players who also aren't locked with another group
So they did have all these characters available in order to put a group together
Yes
All right, we are spying spying might I be spying to see what was happening? So yeah
Who do we think this split is for might be some
horror
A particular character. Can I pull up who they have right now? Yeah, let's see if we can uh
I mean
It depends on
What they're kind of missing or what they feel like they're missing on belleran?
Are we missing the burst damage during the egg phase if that's the case?
We need to look at what specs are particularly
Blasting during the egg phase. Maybe it's a cool down timing as well. It could also be that they need a
Spec that's more catered to passive cleave as opposed to
You know you don't want to lose too much damage off of the boss in order to kill the ads because the ads are still important
But you don't want to allocate too many resources of a bit
So if you have a lot of passive cleave the ads will die in a good amount of time before the cast goes off
but
You don't need to take too much damage off of the boss. That's why you can be very good
Yes, I think damage to anything around your main target
Can we go to like a rice and bevy because I think it's friends might be a little easier to compare
that's available production thank you very much so Charmy is different, Sol is different
swag obviously is not in there so it might be a swag gear angle that could be an option
oh my god Hunter yeah spend more orcas way too many syllables in the name so we can't
really compare him could also be an angle to try and get zero some possible more gear
uh... but it's also hard to say
uh...
frigo is on a
is that the same frigo? no, it might be...
it can't be because that's a lot, right? maybe?
well, I don't know, so that's the point. I don't know if frigo's
current e-folker that's used on belloran
is, uh, has been in the mythics, but yes, there is a chance for that
so frigo's wallet on belloran is called frigo fo ca
This one is called Freck Ovo
but it might be that the syllables are cut off the same way how it's cut off for Spat
So that's only one way to find out, but let me see
Is Fraggo Voki?
Voki
Okay, no
So that is also not the same one
Yeah, the theme is on Guardian, so it could be a...
It could be that they're trying to maybe get a misweaver in
like maybe go for the full copy like what Liquid has
because that's the biggest difference, right?
Liquid does have a 1vokum war, 1 maids less, but they have a guardian instead of the miscrever.
So it could be an angle to see if they can gear up Thief's guardian a little bit more,
and then move that in, because guardians with CDs, like this is the one thing that Guardian has.
Guardian goes in-carb, they go rawr, and they clap.
They do a lot of damage during that phase.
They also have a lot of passive cleave, so it could be Death's Conqueror to be the color switch,
but then Thief is the warrior, so that means they didn't get a warrior in.
One thing that Warrior DPS does really well as well, which could be an angle, is they do a lot of cleave, they have strong CDs.
So it could be that the Sur is going to fly in, and actually try to carry a little bit of the ad damage.
There's all types of shenanigans that can happen.
Yeah, I mean, Miraz was struggling to survive on, I think it was his blood decay at first, and then even on his brewmaster, but it did seem to be a lot, a lot of fixings happening today, when his brewmaster.
It was going more to the ridiculous overlaps of the boss fight as opposed to, you know, struggling to stay alive because of the speck of tank.
True, true, true. It's also going to be interesting to see, like, I mean, we'll be able to see Pharah shortly once they actually kill this boss and they've got to unlock, kind of like, who are the gear guys in here, like, where does this possibly go?
So we'll keep an eye out for that.
It's undoubtedly, I don't really think they're going to go for a furb, I mean, Nicebooch is way, way too gear.
Nice move has 280.5 by the way. Ridiculous character.
Wow, that is a huge amount of ice in the level.
Yes. I think you took it personally when Junji had two of the most geared characters in the world.
Very, very true. It could also be an angle that they are looking at to get some more fences in.
Again, a character could be slightly worse than your main character, but you could use it on Bellarant and then pop the fences.
make the character, let's say you remain to 100% of your strength, if you go and find
a character that's like 98%, but it can fence us, suddenly they have characters spiked so
by 5% more, so it would actually equate to like 102.6% or something, it's still stronger
by 2% or 2.6%.
Yeah, so slightly less item level worth, you know, more with a bandit as opposed to a
slightly higher item level.
Yeah, so that's an angle they can look for as well, they can find more characters that
can go into the situation that have that. But once Imperator Evasion falls over, we
can take a look. We can take a look at where the characters are up to, who's kind of like
looking like it's a possible main, and then we'll have a good idea of what we possibly
could be trying to do. Which shenanigans are Ekko pulling? Because one thing that Ekko
doesn't do is waste time. Except when they go on the little breaks.
But even that's not a waste of time, because the raiders get to stretch their legs, they
get to kind of have a little mental reset, which is really important. You know, fighting
that fatigue but it's also a lot of discussions happening they don't want
to throw themselves at a boss if something isn't right because you're
kind of just burning yourself out for no reason yeah you don't want you don't
want anything to go to waste so like whatever they do is a plan behind it
and it's kind of fun for me to figure out a plan because like one thing that I'm
just curious about it's like Hunter looks really good on this fight, if you just want a
fifth hunter is that's what's gonna happen is Gubb gonna go to the to Narnia
and the swag is going to arrive on his hunter. He has played Hunter before, he's an excellent hunter player.
Or is God going to get a new mage? Are they going to take the Guardians root in the misweaver?
But then, you know, they need to get that swap going because then Merus has to swap, and Thief has to swap,
and this guy has to swap, and shenanigans. We like shenanigans.
Yeah, it's always interesting to talk about what they've got planned, especially when you have, you know,
you know some bosses that is as mapped out as veteran in terms of you know
squeezing out damage and making sure it's fully optimized not just from their
movement and mechanically but DPS and healing wise as well. It is, the other
option that they have is not a effective one but it is an option, Jinji's third
mage because why not? It's not a serious answer by the way, it's just complete mage.
You know what, Gingrich is just so good that he's playing two characters at once in the fight.
That has never happened before.
No, but it's the first time for everything.
Yeah, for sure.
Less unlikely, like Krona is blasting, but I just don't think it's a good balance fight.
So I'm kind of... I don't believe in a balance, I don't think that's going to be it.
We do see Karosh on a DK as well, who currently is on his own DK, so that's another option.
Equimity has a second fairy gear DK, and they're going to defend us like that.
But in praise of Evasion, slowly but surely going down, dealing with the last few dispels,
get the tank bosses on there, make sure he does not complete the tiki to the taki to the toe.
And then, oh my god, that's quite a leap over there. Good job, Kiki.
Yeah, it was quite a great watch bar to get that one.
Yeah, but needed to make sure he didn't make the tic-tac-toe.
Ice block! Use your teachings.
everyone's got the movement to get over there
the version going down very quickly
as expected
alrighty
so maybe now we can have a little bit of a look to see
maybe narrow it down as to how to try and see maybe who this split is for
who is the lucky man
yeah i'm gonna i feel like the hunter swag on the hunter is probably a very good
Yes, as to who this is for because, yeah, Hunters are just doing really well this tier in general.
One thing that actually would make a lot of sense is the Shrek Hunter,
Helene goes out, comes back in on the E-Foker.
Glock goes out. That boots in my eyes would be the easiest thing. They still have to maintain the four Hunters,
but then you get the third one all. Because we might be seeing some shenanigans with Orcs,
like there's always some very cool shenanigans that can happen with the Orcs.
Obviously they are buffing those big bursters like those Elishamans during that intermission
as long as you know like your dh is where you defy with dh.
So I feel like a third arc would be really good.
It also gives you the third sever.
Sever is an amazing cooldown on Bellarant.
There's so much aoe damage happening on that fight that the first sever could be of great
use as well as just a CD reset.
They obviously had a massive drop in E-Focus going from yesterday, because yesterday we
using four, three DPS and one healer, and today they just have two DPS. So they might
be like, I miss my little dragon friends, I'm a spiral dragon.
Yep, actually that's really interesting if they're going to have multiple swappages.
Yeah, bringing in the third evoker, Helene, because Helene has been playing
evoker and hunter, which she's been playing hunter on this fight.
Yeah, and then bringing swag in to at least still have the four hunters.
Yeah, so we can take a quick look at the Arkham app, if you like, and we can see the
latest rate for Mythic aphasia.
So what we have on the Arkham app is we do see the Thief Dog at 274, so this is a possible
character that could get used, he's already quite geared.
The next one is exactly what we talked about, which is the Swag Brick.
It is a 270 hunter, so it's very, very solid.
probably not going to go into here the warlords don't look that interesting so
overall when you look at this comp it's not going to be any of these guys I mean
it could be a fellow monk and go but I don't think that's going to be necessary
but the two ones that look really appetizing is the thief dub is the
swag brick and a potential for the Karash right like none of these guys
really they shared a loot so I can take all of the mill that appears
thief could take all of the leather loot that appears and Karash he can be given
all of the play-through that appears. Yeah because you know we was saying before so we might have some
compositional switches but then we might also have, because Karash is currently playing a DK
on Bellaryn already, but it could just be a case of well having the two characters so you can
Vantus, Bellaryn on one and also Vantus, Lura on another. Yes they do have some options for
Clothloot as well, they could be like oh we're gonna give it to Seri and then you have an extra healer
with the Fentus if you can get him really really big. The item levels don't look good but once you
equip a couple of mythic items you send all of your crests. We saw yesterday where Merus where
he was a 266 brewmaster and then or 267 266 I can't remember he was I think it was 266 brewmaster
and then two minutes later he was 278 he gained 12 item levels in the span of sending crests
sending craft and doing all of those shenanigans. So a character like Seri2 or a character like
possibly gobb if they do want to continue with this, double mage in elegance, they could be very interesting.
My guess is though, it's gonna be Seri 2, kind of our thief dog, just so in case you have a gobb and do it better if you want to,
and then the strike brick, and then bring in a couple of extra fantasies, allow Spark to play the hunter,
take gobb out, and then put Helene back on that roar.
Yeah, I mean I think you're kind of absolutely right but that kind of goes to show why the
splits work the way they do because you know the characters that you're pointing out don't
share loot.
So that's what the whole point of a split is, is that you have these mains in there that
don't share the loot table with any other mains so that the loot will get funneled onto
those characters.
So then you've got you know one of each and everybody else kind of fills out they're not
going to get the loot but they are also strong enough to make sure that they're getting the
bosses down on the thick. So you do have you know considerable item level but not enough
for you know actual actually being used. So you can tell that they're kind of
kind of used as a filler for these splits but yeah I think uh sometimes splits can be
quite intimidating but I think that's a good show of like okay this is how splits work you do have
these characters that you know are all waiting to get a certain loot piece because you wouldn't
want two cloth users because you know if one pair of cloth boots drop then you've
got two mains fighting over one piece of loot that's that's all point of
stuff yeah it's not ideal to have those shenanigans but they seem to have a very
good idea of like this place there's a chance that it could go to series a
chance it could go to God depends on what exactly what I do we will see but
I'm gonna go for another quick run because I will be joining you back
maybe we'll get lost this time peanut does usually get a little bit lost every
time he goes between. This is a very big... What is he doing? It could be anywhere.
You know what? I do think... You haven't been to Casper yet, have you? No, I'm going to
get it. You don't have to. I like the tunnel. I think the tunnel has gotten a lot of use
because we saw Alex in the tunnel as a cute little caterpillar. Okay, Cana is just full
sending the tunnel. But wait, why is it got duct tape around it? What has happened? Okay,
just casually on the green screen. All right, it seems like the secret mythic boss just
spawned on voracious. It was kind of worms all along.
Are you okay? I don't know. Okay, pull your tunnel dress up.
Alright, you made it. Well, welcome to the uh, faster sofa. Worm Cana. Do you need, do you need assistance?
Why's it got duct tape around it? What happened?
I got you.
So, I tried to make Alex into a permanent caterpillar. That's why the duct tape is there.
Okay, and how did that work the escape? Oh unbelievable
I got this don't worry. Hello. Hello. I feel like a dinosaur
I'm gonna turn into a beautiful butterfly
My wings we literally do one split and this is what happens
Hang on a minute. Yeah, you're absolutely right. We have gone into a split and we've already lost. Yeah
Yeah, it just do be like that, you know, it do be like that.
It does. All right. So we've got Casper the Caner. All right, nice.
I'm in a blankie, so I'm fine. It's kind of like a blankie to the fair.
That's not actually quite well. It is actually cozy when I went in the tunnel.
I was like, oh, I can actually, you know, live here. That's fine.
It's a bit less cozy around like the arm area.
Like I, well, yes, because it's restricted. Yes.
So yeah, that's going great. All right. Well,
Chrono showing that boomkin actually is playable. Thank you. You have saved the place with all the boomkins
I love that this is after the thirty three percent buff the day games
That's the status that they went in
That is like oddly terrifying
But the overall doing pretty okay right now. He's kind of doing the pumping the healing is going out
I thought the boss putt is boss on the road the other day and
They are doing this good than the boys over here. So that's something
it is yeah I mean they're still pumping even though this is probably their 80th
character they still do consider all damage on each one which is great to
see but we hopefully get the item level, the gear required for the characters
that they are currently trying to gear and see you know what compositional
changes we're gonna be seeing on Bellerin because yeah we're kind of under
much tighter check than we thought if we are trying to, uh, to egg phase it, which I think at this point it's to be expected.
I don't necessarily think both liquid and echo would put so much effort and time into two-phasing the egg if it wasn't possible.
Yeah. And this is what, you know, the analysts are doing behind the scenes. They're gonna be running the math.
They're gonna be seeing how much damage they're doing, see how much damage is possible, even from their sims,
because yes, you know in a sim is patchwork is assuming that the player is standing still while they're dealing damage, which isn't quite, you know, an accurate representation of what's happening in a fight because of a routine from Bellarine during the egg phase.
They will have to kind of rotate around the room to avoid the slices that aren't their color. So there is a little bit of movement, which can, you know, cost some, you know, uptime.
Uptime, but largely they can make you know quite a lot calculations
Awesome some played in case you want to go to crossway a little trinkets for some free upgrades not not bad
It looks like a lot of cross-cage actually hold it only
um
So my character might become something we'll see
um
Yeah, like I think the the main issue like why i'm so anti-mage which I do apologize for my uh, are you just jealous?
I see us blue classes should stick together. However, we've chosen
I think the biggest issue is that this is actually something that you and me talked about when you started playing the expansion in midnight.
One of the first things that you asked me is do mages no longer have icy fangs? Those were your words.
And right now we're facing a boss where 30 second burst windows are very important.
So a class that does not contain the spell named icy fangs is probably not the hottest burst class in the game.
I think overall they do a fairly good at the sustain damage
But it wouldn't surprise me that they are probably like middle of the pack lower end of the pack during that egg burn
Yeah, probably. I mean frost as a dps profile has always been a consistent damage profile
But um, even with ice veins only really granted you haste to cast those frostballs even quicker
But it's always been a consistent damage profile. And but you are right in the this fight does favor
Burst damage profiles because the damage of the egg is really important
But I do wonder if, see, it can be good to say, oh, you know, we need burst damage profiles
because the egg damage matters, but the rest of the fight also matters, you know, you do
need to cleave out on the adds, the adds very much need to die, and there's also a pressure
to kill them because they do have that raid wipe cast, they do need to be killed before
that goes off, so they are really important to get down, and you also have the damage
on Bellaron itself, you know, during the bird phases. So I do wonder if it's a case of damage
distribution. If you do remove the frost mages just because their damage profile is a consistent
cleave spec. Well, does that mean that you're going to have less damage out on the ads? Does that
mean that other classes are going to have to switch from Bellaron to target the ads taking
damage off of Bellaron? Does that then cause the boss to not transition into the egg phase
when they want it to or maybe they are pushing too early maybe they can afford people to switch
manually to the ads because they already have too much damage and they do need to lose some
damage off with the main boss so these are all of the things that they are going to be you know
running calculations for these are the discussions that they are going to be having but I wouldn't
be surprised if we do see arcane on the site again just because it is a birth damage profile.
I agree and I have a really good point to tell you but I will tell you the point
also I asked you to mute the microphone so I can figure out the situation so I can turn my hands
if you could please move the no no if you mute okay
all right so you basically I mean that is better but I also have to say
that you did this you tried to duct tape Alex into the tunnel and now you are suffering the
consequences of your actions I am currently regretting the choices as you can tell
I'm a little bit uncomfortable but I have found a spot where one arm's attack is going
great.
So my reasoning why I believe that they can manage without a mage is because they're
going to bring in an arc.
And what the arc is going to do is it's going to go like roar roar and then it's going to
buff the hunters.
And then when they buff the hunters, the hunters are going to be doing a lot more
cleave and then during the burst damage window they could then buff for example the shamans
who are then going to be doing a lot more burst so I feel like because other classes excel at such
specific points that they really need bringing in a third arc would kind of buff those situations
and that's why I do believe that the dark blue will supreme over the light blue this case.
Dark blue rising well we will see hopefully I mean this should be the last ball of the splits
or no dragons sorry so maybe this is gonna be a bit quicker than we think and we are gonna kind
of figure out if there are going to be any changes but we will have to see from the caster room when
we're watching along with all of you because that is mine and Kana's time up and we will have a little
bit of a caster switch switcheroo yes we'll go to a little bit of a break you can listen to some
comes awesome tunes and jam along with us and me and Hannah we'll see you at some point probably in chat bye bye
We're killing the small boys and then we're gonna do the turn around and do the left one, yeah.
Then we go around here, do the turn around, boom, boom, boom, kill the big boy.
Nice, kicks, kicks, kicks, kicks, kicks, kicks, kicks.
Four kicks.
We're killing the other ball here guys.
Got a ball, tank is quite close.
That's all good.
We're going to wait here.
We're going to be doing some squeezer, okay, in between.
We can kill the big ball on all these small balls here that are now stacked up.
Hit the big ball, boom boom, interrupts interrupts and kill the pink ball.
Hit the big ball that is pinged here, it's very nice, don't use the other one more guys,
He's Omega-duced
Watch the tank one, it's in the corner, you see me?
Okay, surprised randomly
Come back, oh he didn't move back
It's quite tight, but we are very tight guys
It's fine, there is no puddle, there is no puddle
Okay, it's not too much guys
I was literally a steady shopping in the fucking small space and it was not an 8 shopping.
I'm probably gonna do the pineapple ball here guys, okay.
I think Hunters will take care of it, I see many Lunar Storms, Interrupts, Interrupts,
don't forget the thoughts of Interrupts while you do damage guys.
Yeah, and then we have one more board that we should choose.
Okay, two first ones.
I'm gonna just do this to you.
I think we're going to swap up the room side here, yeah.
Play the ball, everyone.
Watch out, under the boss, under the boss.
Coming from...
Yeah, coming, going backwards.
I know, so...
Nothing happened.
difficult encounter so much so that they decide not to do anymore and they've got the splits.
Yeah, we will.
So thanks for watching gang, we'll be back a little bit later today.
Splits.
Yeah, splits.
Feels like every time I come into the couch I'm just summoning splits.
Well, the thing is I think we're doing split singular.
Yeah.
I could be coping obviously, but they haven't actually told us, maybe we'll get some info
on that.
Yeah, we could be doing a Paladins and Alaria on Levic.
I've seen I think method was doing they have yeah so yeah why not I mean well
they just realized that they need more gear and they can give more character so
so yeah I think what that what's largely happening here all the characters
that are currently in as far as I'm aware on our boss that we're fighting
right now which is Bella and they've already done their voice by split they
can't go and get more gear unless they go and jump into the Paladins or they
jump into Illyria afterwards right. This is to gear a new character and one
person that really stands out to me is Swag's Hunter here. Not only were they
very excited when a male loot dropped, they were talking about a belt when a
belt dropped, they were all like oooooh! Yeah, I heard that on the aviation I think, this was best.
Yeah so you know they're quite excited so I think this is a split for Swag
because he was in on his DK for a while.
Yeah, then he got replaced by Karash.
I think you're right, he was probably like working on his Hunter while being benched.
So, yeah, I wonder if they want to take him on Beloran, or if they are thinking for Lula.
Because maybe they can be like, oh, in his current state we don't think the boss is going to be good,
or we think that Blizzard is going to nerf it, or maybe Blizzard already told them that they are going to nerf it,
they're like okay maybe we should spend our time like gearing a swag so they could also be for lura
yeah it's true like um we don't know the players haven't told us anything about nerfs and i'm not
necessarily uh not necessarily asking for them i think the boss is at the moment causing a ton
of difficulties and i was hoping that there was going to be a click moment right when at one point
it all clicks in everyone's heads all the systems make sense and we have seen improvement don't get
me wrong we like especially getting the adds over to the side of the wall to do the soaks and all
that kind of stuff we're seeing massive improvement when it comes to that but there's still like
a lot of depth to everything else which it just feels like you're looking for a god port this
point i'm not sure yeah i mean it's really hard they made so many changes that also uh has made
them to redo the fight a little bit like for example removing a healer i'll be tired because they
they liquid they did that during the nights and it looks like they are looking to kill the boss
in two egg phases and echo is trying to do the same at least they were doing this morning
by removing a healer so they were playing i think two this priest and the writhen as a
two for the buff so you have to do the fight a little bit because then you have a one less healer
you maybe need players super specials where they were using it before so you need to change a
a lot of things also regarding the healing cooldowns you're going to use, so it's really
hard to progress the fights, but as soon as it's going to be done, it's going to be way
better for them.
But yeah, we haven't seen a second egg face since they went back to 3 healers.
Yeah, you're entirely right.
The other one, that sort of new sort of raid comp, ideally is going to be the one that they're
trying to finish with, right?
put them in a position where they do have to do a lot of reprogressing and re-stepping and going
through it. But finally enough, the heroes seem to be doing incredibly well with it. We're very
rarely still dying due to a lack of healing. You know, we're very much along the lines of
struggling more to do with the balls not getting soaked, people not soaking the quills correctly,
the ads not getting kicked, all those sorts of things that we have, you know, come to love on
that boss because that's pretty much what the whole encounter is. But as we are jumping, as we
we are sitting here waiting for them to finish off this mythic split on a boss that we've
seen many many times before. I'd rather pass it over to a face that I have seen many many
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That happened. In Mayfaird, I remember that happened.
At some point, I think the officers shared us a week aura.
Oh, right.
And one of the streamers was showing the entire core.
Oh, no.
And there is one person on Twitch that copied, letter by letter, the week aura.
I'm not kidding.
Did it work? Did it work for them?
from it was a functional they copied it correctly I don't remember that is very
very funny you can see the gang that if you are just tuning in or wondering why
the bird has suddenly turned into two dragons it is not I'm gonna take only
phase we are back in voidspire but probably just for a short visit
fingers crossed we want to be seen some broad finger cross yeah but we will be
able to find out a little bit more about their plans as we will be going into
lunch in about 15 minutes or so and I think we will be having a sit-down of
course, we're one of the players and we'll be able to get their thoughts as to not only
the difficulty of Beloran, but also exactly what their plan is on the lead up to it. As
we said, we have speculated about potentially, they might be looking to nerf the encounter.
Blizzard normally does give a little bit of notice for that, but they also want to make
sure that it's nerfed at a good time. It's a very difficult thing for them to achieve,
so no shade being thrown. I wouldn't want that job at all. So we don't know if it is
going to be nerfed and that's why the Brains have suddenly gone somewhere else for it or
if they just want to get swagged this character in a good position it's a little unclear as to
exactly what their goals are right now but we're along for the ride we're gonna have some fun and
I'm sure we'll see some bourbon a little bit oh yeah I hope so but yeah you're right like we're
already in week two so the devs are like okay uh players were complained players and viewers were
complaining as they wanted a big challenge yes there it is but also uh the players are gonna
the players are going to complain if the red goes to third week so I mean we have to balance this a
little bit right? I'm not sure if I'm going to be here if it's a third week. There is a real life
that I need to be getting on when I'm 12. So we'll see exactly how it all pans out gang but you
know we've only been on it for one day there is a lot of room left to do and the thing is what's
happening right now we're not even necessarily calling for numerical changes we're not really
I'm not even necessarily calling for anything to be changed, but right now we are getting some
periods of times that it's just so difficult in order to get through, sorry, with the Baloran
encounter itself. Like as soon as we come out of that second egg at the first egg phase, sorry,
we're going back into the bird phase, that part of the fight, it just seems like it's so difficult
for them to try and control. Oh yeah, because you have the boss that does the convention's
pulls, watching AOE and he's like assigning players with colors. So I realized that they were using
a hunter with total like 200 with total like they can soak them are you called them crazy ops
yeah we call them crazy ops just like the ones of ricochet yeah the ops that are forming a line
it's the other ones that you cannot really predict where they are going to to go so yeah
i mean the mythic mechanic is that the boss cannot hit one of the ops otherwise he does
insane damage to the reds
What did we get here?
Is that Hunter 2 again?
Is it?
Can anyone who's got the loot window open for longer?
Perhaps Mara's?
He might be able to look?
I can't see
He's not hovering over it
What should corrupted?
I'm not sure what they're called anymore
No me neither
Okay
I think we're looking to Gearswag
You can see them clearing towards the next boss
but normally they just kill this guy
drop a B.O.E. or at least has the opportunity to. So we'll see if we do get a B.O.E. from that and
whether or not they are interested in Paladins. It looks like they're not. It looks like they're
moving away. So just those four bosses, that's an incredibly quick clear by the way. They did that
like 45 minutes or something. Yeah, that was really quick. And also, I believe they are going to be
taking their large break soon and maybe come back on better run. I would be really, really happy.
oh it's leather tier, ok so, bin for 100 really
100% full bin as Alex would say
maybe we can log it on teeth, I don't know how strong that particular character is
we've been seeing some Guardian Druid beanpite by both Method and Liquid
where it's even more opted for the brewmaster instead
what do you think about that Joyce?
I mean if Miss Weaver is better than Restored Druid then it could be it could be strong because
Like they are forced physically to run a blue master because they have the Restored Druid, right? Yes
But Thief is the warrior so he can't really be playing the Druid, right?
So they would lose a warrior.
Yeah, that's me mirrors has to play the druids if they want
Dispossibility unless they have teeth go on the druid and mirrors go on a warrior
Everything's getting switched around I don't yeah, I would put it past them. I don't I don't think it's something they can do
So, oh no, they are getting teeth a ton of gear
Actually there. Oh, so leather leather
Tear that's really good for teeth
Okay, that's really lucky. It seems like no. Yeah, I wonder is this a character they just dumped on though. Is this character for two seven six?
Apart from the weapon is full two seven six because you know one of their characters of course they bricked it right
They've kind of ruined it by spending all of its crests in a really inefficient manner. Didn't also get that heroic
heroic achievement for their I don't know if this is thieves one I don't know
he seems pretty cute and I think he can still craft the weapon I don't know what
his crest situation is like that's the thing go on your currency tab see thank
you don't need that much gear it's fine like you can have like a free list item
level than your dps and it can work. Although on the lower end they have like a really intense
fights I agree but I think they can manage. Yeah yeah if you are gonna have low right level you
normally look to put that more towards your healers and tanks you know you want to have normally
more damage means easier time overall. Yeah I think the the fight is yeah more about dps in the egg
and also with three healers being able to keep the red alive is going to be really hard so
I think yeah the dps that the eye can deliver that matters the less should be on things
we've also got this whole aspect where we barely use any banter troops on this encounter like
because we were speaking in the classroom a little bit about you know is it even possible for them
to be able to two egg this encounter I'm thinking you know I've been listening to scribe a lot today
And there was no putanges like we can easily get way more damage. We're not necessarily worried about that
Let's focus on xyz. There's other problems that we need to solve first before we start thinking about how much egg damage we can get
We can easily give everyone the crazy burst buff right by giving them access to the vantus runes because i'm pretty sure most of the players that are in on
um bellaren
I don't believe they're going to be bringing those characters to the midnight falls encounter, right?
So, I think the only two players that already ventured are Jinji and Trago, if I'm correct.
I think there's one other as well, I can't remember who they are for the first time yet.
So we got three at the moment.
And so these characters, they have a second one that is really strong.
I think I was saying Jinji on top of War progress.
Briefly he was, yeah.
Two mages were like top to top eye level.
He did that really quickly so he could take a screenshot of it.
I don't think it's the case anymore.
I don't know if all our players have like a second strong character they can bring on
the lower.
He hasn't sent, look how many Myth Dawn crests he has on that character.
He sent quite a lot of Hero crests, his Hero crests are quite low, but I think all of his
Heroic gear is upgraded so that's not an issue anyway, so he doesn't need his Hero
crests anymore.
It's like he only upgraded the Hero gear and he's like sitting for Mythic Dawn crests.
Yeah, so that character could be juiced.
like that's a character ready to get really really strong very very quickly
so might be seeing a tank change which also means that we will be bringing in a
miss weaver instead of a rest of druid in order to make sure we keep to have
that monk buff also JB pointed out as well it's much better for damage
apparently you know if you were gonna pick to like a tank healer combo a miss
weaver and a guarding druid is much stronger than a brumasur rest though I
I remember he was complaining a lot about it. I think it was like last week. He was saying oh, dude. The damage is really bad
JP complaining. I've never heard of such a thing
Never no, he just it just tells the truth. That's all he said
yeah
You tell you entirely rights
damage also matters and that's also
While we are running this comp we already have double disc
which are really interesting because they do a lot of damage. Also on top of that they are giving poor infusion to two players.
MMM Hunter is one of the best specs regarding poor infusion, so it works really well with it.
Also they have the strongest to 30 seconds damage window.
So that's why we're running so many hunters and on top of this with the PI, that's awesome.
And they're so good for the adds as well because they can do full single target damage
As far as I'm aware right with that would they be running trick shots for that?
Would they be running the aspect of the high drugs? Yes, but the hydro is the passive version right where you don't need to multi-shot
You would run the aspect of radio, right? It's super good
So yeah, basically you just hit the boss and it's gonna do I think they nerfed it now. It's like 35% it was
65 I think yeah, but it's still so strong. So then so yeah, you're doing damage to target that is close
So it's like a passive damage
you just do your normal rotation on the bus and it hits other targets which is
really good and also on top of that of course they have immunities they can
they can help with the socks that are overlapping in order to sort both of
them but they can also they have an immunity and they can move with it the
match cannot do that so they can also clear all the orbs the crazy orbs for
example after when we are coming back into the second phase one which is
really important as well yeah the fight seems that there's so many strong aspects for hunters
especially that immunity you see them use it's a great effect where you basically got like three
turtles rotating around the bosses hoovering up all of the yeah we also saw yesterday where like
um they were still getting used to the wall strategy where they have like two hunters
that's basically clearing two all balls at the exact same time it looked very organized amongst
the cows it looks pretty though yeah very cool um so we'll have to find out exactly what their plan
It looks like the players that weren't in the run for that particular mythic
Clare have just popped into a mythic plus. I don't even know if there's anything left for them to pick up
That's the thing these guys are fully heroic gear
Yeah, the only thing that I'm seeing is that nice memes is sitting in front of the red and that looks
I mean, I have a good good hope that we are gonna come back to a match of kindness
Well, we can see the spin three
and then you get a lot of
jewelry, rice and
they're already in. Yeah, quite
a lot of them already in
there as well. Um
rice is just left because he
wasn't pretty wrong. Okay, so
maybe we're going to be
bringing a teeth drood and
what do you think like maybe
a little Monk or
so yeah, you probably get
fellow monk in rice and goes
out. Um you would then get
I can imagine that working the only other thing that I could think of in terms of a mega geared character
I'm in this run right now
What do you think about the rivers as a tank?
You're not taking this dungeon. I don't know how like ravers is amazing. This is an incredibly difficult tank fight
Yeah
But why it works? I don't think I've ever seen a fight where there is a sap
So this would be set in a precedent
it'll be a big big deal so that's very cool so it's very interesting in that
regard you could keep the comp the same but I don't know the thing is like a
production point now the idea of ravers coming into DPS instead and then but you
really like we don't want that many melee from my gut feeling is that it
wouldn't really be worth what about so we are using let's say they are keeping
bloodlust imagine okay so I'm trying to think yeah would you rather pop bloodlust on the very
first egg phase right now they are doing it yeah because it's prog yeah but my guess would be that
maybe you want to pop it at set during second phase because you're gonna have a healing reduction
on top of it she's going to do a lot of damage and on top of this execute damage that's very true
What about warrior like the piece where it could be really strong if we are popping bloodlust and we're in an execute phase
During the egg. That's a good point warriors obviously known for that crazy pop the execute damage that we talk about is named after warriors ability execute
It's a the the damage profile is named after them in terms of like I'm not smart enough necessarily to say like I agree with you
100% if you the bloodlust is equally as efficient and either the first or the second one
So it's good. You're gonna get the same value because it's gonna be buffing the same amount of cooldowns in each
Then it does sound like the second egg would be a nicer time to bloodlust because it allows you
Not only to clean up some ads
You may very well have as you're waiting for the boss to come down because you can bloodlust as soon as the boss goes away
Because you have that 10 second buffer window and you have only got bloodlust 40 seconds
So you have this for the full 30 seconds of the egg
But also, you know, you'll be able to cover that you're entirely right that 10% reduced healing that we have as soon as we enter
exit the first egg phase so yeah like if it was the same then like is in you know
it's gonna be buffing 15 people's cooldowns you're still gonna be getting
the same damage out of it say that we're gonna be doing 40% with bloodlust and
no sorry we're gonna do 60% with bloodlust and 40% without then you still
want to do the 60% in the last egg phase just to make sure that you are
covering that extra healing and the EXCU damage entirely. Also Warrior is not the
the only one who has execute, it's also M&Hunter.
Very true.
The little 20% you are gaining, I think it's like
to rip some more crits.
Wow.
It's taxed.
So I mean, we don't usually talk about it,
but they have a really strong executor as well.
And we are running so many of them.
So that could make sense.
Very true.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think if there's any other classes
that we're currently running.
It's beyond my knowledge.
I used to know all of this, but as the classes have changed
over time in terms of who actually has access
to additional execute on top of that.
Like, it has, has Rage as an example.
I mean, augmentation, evoker, if there are buffing classes
that are executing, it also works in an extend, I would say.
For sure.
So, I mean, it works so well with this comp.
I think that's probably what they're aiming for.
I'm not sure, right?
I'm like making somethings.
Yeah.
But right now, they, they still need to get to it, right?
We haven't seen Echo going to a second ad phase,
ag phase with three healers so they they have to still like proc the fights
before getting to that stage where they are like okay now we are going for the
kill yeah that's the thing with that it's a very important point of that you've
made there as well in terms of no one I think has got to that second egg with
everyone alive no never happened and all the guilt yeah and also I feel like
this is gonna be maybe the hardest part for the healers because the pulse damage
is there's so much and on top of that you're gonna have 10% healing reduction
which is crazy so yeah imagine having everyone alive but you can also lose
players during that phase at the same time so yeah I mean the boss is pretty
hard as you can say yeah that there's oh that's a wonderful transmog wonderful
indeed that's just the best trans work known to man can we put back to them
with the plus at you I'm interested to see what they get want to see if they're
off to something specific I want to see if so it looks happy once it's gone are
Are we looking for some reeds?
I would have imagined they would have got all last week
That's why I'm wondering why they're in here
They might be just getting some mythic res perhaps
Yeah
If they just want to get Revers' character like really juiced up
If that's who they're bringing
Cause all of these other people are in the rut
That's the thing, like Narco is in
Hellenys in, Soda and Stove, they're all in
Just Revers who isn't
Yeah that's true
a clock? What else? Oh, are you going? Okay, that's a little small on So's face there.
A little small. Good. Hopefully it's gone to the right person. We'll find out.
Yeah, we will. We will, of course. Yeah, I wonder, they are probably going to be taking
a break soon. Yes. And coming back to Beloran. Okay, I'm really optimistic they are going
to be going back to Beloran. I think so too. They're all just outside of it. We're going
to be seeing some Bellar and a
hundred percent but I think we
are just getting ourselves all
situated and settled for a sit
down with Secret Lab where we
are going to be having our own
J.B. who's going to be chatting
away to Nice Minge and I imagine
going over the intricacies of the
encounter. Really interested to
hear what they have to say. Are we
good to jump over production? Let's
Hello everyone, I'm here with NICE memes, and sit down with Secret Lab, we've just gotten
done with some bellerine progression and the first prog we've had in a bit, how we feel
about the boss?
I love it, great boss, I was afraid that it's going to be too easy but...
Yeah I don't think that's going to be a problem.
So we are we thinking this dies soon? Not soon?
We've just finished last blitz now I think. I think so probably I would assume later today.
You think so later today?
I think it dies later today.
I got a bet going for the other casters. I don't think it dies in this version of it.
I think this gets nerfed for anybody.
Okay, okay, let's see. So, um, demon hunter player, obviously we've got a new devourer spec. It seems to be doing well in the raid. Are we happy with it?
Uh, I love it.
You love it? Yeah.
Looking good. Infinite mobility, even more than havoc. A lot of responsibility, which I also like. Yeah, good class. Good spec. Probably gonna get nerfed soon.
Oh, well, you know. It's a new spec. It'll get its time in the solo per bit.
Yeah.
How's Bellar and feeling, and I guess the raid in general, how's it feeling as a melee player, friendly or?
I did a lot of testing as a walker as well. I felt like most of these bosses didn't feel too good on melee.
Most of these bosses feel like ranged bosses definitely to me. Also melee class is not looking too strong secondary right now, balancing wise.
Not yet, unfortunately.
Okay, so if we see Bellaryn die today and we get into Lureb from the weekend, do you think we see Lureb dead before the reset?
How did the heroic mechanics leave you feeling?
I would assume Lureb does this reset, yeah. I don't think the mechanics looked too crazy in Eroic.
I think there were a lot of bugs going on earlier where people died for no reason and the dance thingy was bug
Another at all that is fixed. I couldn't imagine Luradang. Maybe one day Tuesday
Hopefully, hopefully Tuesday. Well, that would be a banger for boss at that. Well, the four days of prog on this
All right, so you said you're you're happy with Bellarin you're happy with the Vyra Demon Hunter
Are you happy with the secret lab chairs?
Absolutely. Love them. Love them. Great chairs.
Couldn't be happier.
Sounds like you're in a joyful mood.
Exactly, exactly.
Yeah, alright. Well, there you have it.
Just all smiles around here.
After, you know, maybe kind of a down week last week.
Everybody seems to be in good spirits.
So, thank you, nice to be able to sit down with us
and throw it back to Alex and I'm blanking now. He's Cruella right? Alex and Cruella?
Yeah yeah. So see you guys and we're wrapping the lunch.
Thank you Jamie and thank you Dice Moves. Oh I've already got us. That was wonderful to hear from
them. Really, really wonderful to hear from them. It was, you could tell that Jamie was going in and
So it's like this boss is like killer ball and I speak was just like
So there we go we heard it from them they were just doing those last minutes they're jumping back into ballerina
We'll probably be seeing some comp changes, but generally happy with the challenge of the fight after two heroic weeks
Excellent weeks very very funny
So with lunch going on though unless there's anything else to cover should we go and grab some ourselves?
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Beloran Mific has to fall today.
It certainly does and what we
heard it from nice things
secret lab this boss died today yeah later today no issues he looked really confident about it so
i mean i want to believe him and uh i was also one of the casters saying it is doable
although jb was like i don't get me wrong i think jb has got a lot of fine points with that i think
he's gonna be joining us a little bit later as well so he'll be able to cover them hopefully the
boss is dead by that point because that'll be a fun post mortem but um but no in like in terms of just
I think it more speaks to the like the ridiculous challenge that's been placed in front of these players
It's an exceptionally difficult fight not even looking at the numbers required for us to get the egg down in two
Just getting through the second bird phase
Mechanically just moving around in the way that you want to and getting the damage check correct
So you move in before you get the third set of ads so hard
So I'm kind of with JB there is a very very big mountain to climb
He feels that the it's a little bit too steep for anyone to do so
need to be leveled out a little bit by Blizzard with a bit of an earth but uh
I'm under the impression well I'm full of copium and hope that they'll be able to get something
done for it but the players right now just coming back from their break and there's a couple of
them just doing weird bits and pieces trying to be as efficient as possible with their time
Marys tagging this boss and he's on a warrior there we go we are gonna see some comp changes here
aren't we yeah so I believe Miris is going to go to Protwire and Tiff is going to be playing
We were seeing him getting juice on the Westpire split, Mephix split.
I believe they were also giving swag at the same time on his Hunter.
He was already gone with his DK for half of the day yesterday.
They brought, I think, a rash to replace him, so he was working on his Hunter for a long time.
I think he was also on the Paladin's prog, so I mean his Hunter is already strong enough.
yes so it's not like a dead character and yeah I don't know what else because I
was thinking as well I was like telling Alex before we we went back maybe what
do they want to do do they want to replace maybe no colise and bring a
Healer Paladin which is not Healer Paladin is not the best but also I don't think
Red Paladin is the best either so you still want that Paladin buff but where do
your wines yeah I think if you're you got to think about maybe what we were
replacing for it because we are sticking with these three healers right and one
of them has to bring a buffer and if we're gonna be bringing a guardian drew
it in I think Rycin's out and bellows it right for the miss weaver buff that so
we're keeping all of our buffs then we sat with two discs and you're gonna be
losing two PIs for I'm not I'm not saying that you're wrong by any means I
just it that's in the realm of you know about the miss weaver buff your rights
yeah six of one half a dozen of another sort of thing right it's it's a
difficult sort of thing to balance. If it was four healed then I think there's
probably a little bit more room within that healing team to perhaps sneak in a
cheeky little Holy Paladin but Holy Paladins has not been favored at all by
any of the guilds in the race so far. We've only just been seeing that retic.
So he's a Resto Shaman as well. Yeah Resto Shaman, full bin. Full bin, 100%. Elemental though as we can see
Stofe doing very very well and they're doing incredibly good damage to the egg
as well you see them as they're going into that egg phase just kind of nowhere on the
meters and at the end of the egg phase they're right at the top so yeah so i thought mm hunter
was the best but apparently they have to move a lot and they lose some dps from it although
they're still really strong of course but uh ilishaman is doing so much they're so strong and
also they added one more ilishaman recently they started with one and they added the second one
Yes, and yeah, they are I think apparently doing like a ton of damage to the egg
Yeah, it certainly looks like it from pre and post actually haven't looked through the logs too much
I don't really necessarily want to spoil myself too much on the logs
I'm scared I'll discover something and I'll go I shouldn't really talk about that
Especially when we're at a point in the race where of course liquid have gone to bed
They've managed to get the egg down in one phase to 43.2%
I'm without watching their entirety of the proc so do apologize if this is incorrect as far as I'm aware
They haven't got a clean second egg of Ewing no at all
No one in the world has right now, and that's still something that we need to overcome
Regardless if we end up. Oh, we've got a
Play
Either something quite large that we do need to overcome before we can start thinking about the egg health and all those sorts of things
Yeah, you're right because we are talking about 80 PS, but I mean you're entirely right before that you need to solve the fight
And you have to go through that entire second P1 with the 10% healing reduction
Everyone alive you also as you were saying previously
probably want to push before getting the third set of ads and
the soaks so I mean yeah you have to get there and also let's say you have
everyone alive during the last egg phase the second egg phase you also have if
you need everyone to be able to survive that phase because it's gonna be so hard
for the heroes with the 10% healing reduction damage it poses a lot of
damage similar to KVSI a little bit yeah during that phase so you also on top of
this need to survive for 30 more seconds it's a lot we've got a long path ahead of us but it's one
of those things where we could suddenly appear at the end of it it you know it feels like we're
stuck halfway through our journey on this boss but all it takes is that one pull where you know
we're not seeing any new quote-unquote mechanics we are just needing to execute get over that last
hurdle and then we finally suddenly find ourselves rolling very quickly down the hill towards the
the end of the fight so some crafts coming out from Marus on his warrior so it looks
like in terms of the changes we're going to be seeing Marus swapping his brew master
for a warrior and that is because T is going to be swapping his warrior for a druid, a guardian
druid and...
Yeah so we will have to find their feet, sorry yeah...
Yeah that's a pretty fun.
Yeah because Mirius, it's like the third tank he's bringing on the boss.
He realized that as he started as a bouquet, realized it was too slow to move and stuff
so then he went on the monk and I mean there's a lot of damage to the monk so now he's gonna be practicing a warrior
because thief had like many pulls as a warrior but Mires didn't so maybe they are gonna be like
having some pulls where they are trying to relearn the fight because they are making
like a kind of a big change to the compass. Yeah, you're entirely right
I think that's going to extend over to the healing as well
Well, it's likely we're going to see rice and drop out because we do need the munk
buff from somewhere where we're probably going to have Velo coming in who's been doing exceptionally
well on that character and it's very well geared.
They did actually have it in for their prod yesterday, so it's not like Velo hasn't healed
the fight either, so it makes sense to grab him back in.
So yeah, looking positive with all of those things combined.
275 on a character that's still got upgrades on the way is a very good look.
Looks like he's sending all the upgrades right now. I wonder like what's the best allure that he can get
I imagine would be around that two seven eight mark again. Maybe two seven nine perhaps. It's
I've never seen
So many well geared characters per player
Oh, yeah
I mean when you see that Jinji has like two equal mages and he can be like, okay
I'm gonna be playing this match and send the Ventsus on Beloran and I can play the other match
I send the Ventsus on Lura, it's gonna be fine, like, can you imagine that?
It's incredible, isn't it?
So, yeah, it's just, you know, just got 80 different characters, all the best gear that they could possibly be this week, like, weeks ahead of any other, you know, normal character within this game.
I guess that's what happens when you get, quote, unquote, two heroic weeks.
Yeah, and also, I mean, we were all like, oh, there's nothing else happening, because they just killed Alleria, so what are we gonna do?
we're gonna do but for the players they did so much things they weren't resting
they did rest a little bit on Tuesday although they were having a lot of they
were having like meetings they were also probably talking about the bosses that
were that were gonna be released they ran and Laura so it wasn't quite a rest day
I would call it but yeah they did they spent like three full days at least just
gearing of the characters and preparing for those two courses.
And you can see how well it's paid off.
I wonder as well, of course, like you can look at the overall item level of
Echo versus Liquid versus Method.
And especially with what Liquid and Echo have done, they're probably
the two closest. Seems like Method are a good chunk behind it.
I don't know exactly where they are in their gearing process, mind you.
They might serve a bit more work to do.
I'm also not so sure if they sent all their crystal grids
Before stepping here, I was looking at them and they were doing paladins and allurea on mythic, so it's like another...
I mean, they are doing other stuff. I don't know if it's going to pay off or not.
Also yesterday, I believe they went dark and they tried some stuff on Lora Heroic.
It was mythic for a specific mechanic. They were testing stuff, so of course we don't have any information
Well, hopefully we get some little information soon. It could happen today
We could very well be looking at Laura today if we believe nice memes, which I I want to believe nice memes
We're gonna be seeing there later. I believe nice memes. I
Don't believe Roger Brun since he lied to us with the splits. He has never told the truth in his life
Yeah, so if Roger Brown was like both dies today, I wouldn't trust him. But this was nice memes. Yes
So I'm like optimistic about it
But nice memes are the kind of guy that would
Nice memes are the kind of guy that would tell you the truth, you know, tell you exactly how he feels
So if he's got a plan, he's not gonna be, you know
Making something seem way better than it actually is. So I'm glad that they are enjoying themselves
themselves. I certainly am enjoying watching them progress, but I'm really looking forward to when
they get back into it. Just sawing out the last of those items gang, so I imagine within the next
five or so minutes we could probably be expecting them to get back in and start settling with their
new comp. That's how much different it's going to be. I'm not entirely too sure. These players are
very used to their classes, right? Yeah, I believe we are going to be maybe struggling at the beginning
because I mean it's a new comp right as we said we have to learn the new specs
also some characters are gonna be back in swag is gonna have if swag is gonna
be in on his hunter he will have a completely different job he used to be
DK and grip the earth now he's gonna be hunter he will have to soak the the the
two debuffs that are overlapping each other he will also have to do an
Orpsoak as well with his Toss also. It's like a completely different job with two different classes, so
it's gonna be hard.
279.
279! He's so good!
Yeah, it's basically the same as his other characters.
And Teeth, 279.
So we've gone from 279 tanks to more 279 tanks.
That is very good. I'm super looking forward to when we're actually on Dora.
all guilds are on there and we can see exactly how this is all played out because last week
when we was going through those four days where they were doing so many weird little schemes and
they had all these plans and there was so much kind of mystery about the whole thing now it's
kind of comes from fruition where each of the guilds is in completely different strategies
when it comes to their regal. And I love to see that is that they are doing so many different
stuff. For example, they started the week, this reset day, by doing, it was March on
Kaldanas Heroic and Echo didn't do this at all.
I don't think we killed a boss in March yet.
Yeah.
I don't think we've literally, we haven't killed Baloram once, not even on normal
Auroic, as far as I'm aware.
Are they like, oh, we don't need the loot, I mean, it's Heroic loot.
Exactly.
Votspire mythic splits is giving better loot than Machu Kedala's heroic.
Same as mythic chimeras, so I believe we did like four Votspire splits, five now,
but we got this new one here for land. And also we did like a couple of chimeras,
maybe eight mythic chimeras, heroic chimeras as well, for those who were not lucky with the
trinket, they could get it on heroic, that's good enough. But yeah, we haven't seen Machu
where Liquid did it multiple times as well.
I think they did it tons of times.
Yeah, and method, they were like,
okay, we are gonna do Mithic Paladins, Mithic Alleria,
and also we are gonna do some shenanigans
on Dark Mode on Lura, yeah.
Heric Lura, so I don't know what's going on, you know?
Yeah, it's really nice to see,
because it feels like over the last few races,
because it's so well mapped out,
and everyone can see what everyone else is doing.
We kind of streamlined it to such a point where everyone is like, I'm sure there's some small deviations that really matter in the grand scheme of things.
But generally speaking, they're all kind of doing the same stuff.
We haven't seen a deviation like this ever, at least within the last several years.
So very exciting to see the consequences of such a thing.
Because who knows, you know, Echo probably spent the least time doing anything this week, which wasn't doing Mythic Frog.
They probably spent the most time in Mythic Frog with the time that they've had a lot of it to them.
Obviously, Liquid have finished their second day now.
We're on our second day.
It is Thursday, right?
It is Thursday.
Yeah, I can't go.
Yes, it is.
What?
I've been here for weeks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
I was really surprised to see a couple in Beloran before Liquid even did.
Oh, stocks, yeah.
I mean, they probably did like a couple of few pools maybe before going to bed.
I think there's two or three they did, yeah.
We had no information about it. It wasn't being shown on the worker flogs.
So, yeah, it's like the very first time where it is Wednesday,
and EU Guild is pulling a magic boss before they click with us.
It's, yeah, we haven't seen that in a long, long time. Long, long time.
So, maybe even ever, honestly, we're trying to put it together.
So, it's, yeah, we've got these crazy deviations,
And whether or not like it's by going to do her a lura
I suppose what you're doing is increasing the quality not your item level overall with a quality of the items you have because of course
Lura drops a really good stuff
So really nice ring as an example right which I think it has two sockets in it as well as the
Effect that makes it so that when you take shadow damage you get shield which is gonna be very useful on
Lura on mythic as well right so we're gonna have none of those
There's also I think a good neck that's like a pure haste neck
So classes that like haste don't really like that as well. And I think there are quite a few good DPS that like haste quite a lot
So who knows basically is how it all pan out
But it looks like we are starting to form ourselves a little bit of a raid
I believe that everyone is starting to make their way in towards
Our good burb, burb friend Beloran is going to be starting to go down relatively soon
Yeah, there is the new comp of course, Meriz and Tief are in group one still
We don't want that. We'll be swapping that out.
Mires is twice in the camp, but let's kill Mires.
Mires decided to multi-box this time around.
Let's see. Who are they swapped?
Have they got swag in on a hunter?
Um...
I don't see it.
We're missing a person. We're missing a...
We're still missing a person. They could be swapped.
Velo, I think it is.
Unless we're two healing.
two healing of our monks out of that match
okay so we didn't bring swag yet
she's looking for fellow
yeah I don't think swag's coming in
oh yeah interesting
so Miraz is on a warrior now
he was producing on his monk
a thief is swaps from a warrior to a food
resin is being replaced for a villa
Because now we need a Moc buff, because Mira's Moc is not there anymore.
So yeah, I don't think they change anything regarding DPS.
No, it looks like it's a tank swap and we basically match Liquid's comp in terms of the tanks and healers though.
And Method 1 as well.
I believe so, yes.
We're also running with Druid's Inc.
I'm not sure if there was 3 healing though at the time, but we certainly matched the tank comp, that's for sure.
So we'll find out this is gonna be exciting. I'm looking forward to this. Oh, me too
Yeah, finally get to see ourselves a little bit of bird with what could very well be their comp to kill it
I'm also interested to see if they send any more ventures
That could be true cuz I mean nearest as we saw he has many options when it comes to tanks and
He could definitely send a ventus if he thinks this tank is not gonna be there on Lura
but also sometimes you don't know let's for example he started with a decay on better end then he's like oh no
Because you never know you don't want to take the risk to send your ventus and then be like oh no this character is required
No on Lura and I don't have the vents anymore, which is not ideal. So yeah, I
Believe you maybe just want to
Wait wait for longer
I think once you've got a kill cock the thing is if you can kill it without sending those vantus at the moment
We've got three vantus going out. We've got one on spin. We've got one on
Genji and yeah, because they've all got characters which are basically identical to the current one, right?
So they they could bring either of those characters and it'll be just as good
So they're probably bringing the ever so slightly weaker one to this one if there is like a small difference between them
Oh, yeah, and then they're saving the stronger one for lures just so they can basically get two mantis runes
Everyone else here is in a position where they can't copy that exactly. Although I did hear some characters, I don't necessarily want to start naming names, but I did hear that some people are in a position where they can also vent us, but I'm not sure why they haven't.
So we'll find out how that works over the course of the run, I suppose. We are just fixing up the last of the groups now, and then we're going to be jumping straight in. I'm really looking forward to this.
to this. Yeah, they already
didn't take his flask so and
flask. Okay, there it goes.
pulling. Let's go. Let's
out. This boss is still
fragile. So, I am, you know,
we're going to be immune to
somewhere. Um but we're m
the tanks and the healing
this little bit. We'll see
which I'm sure he enjoys very much. I wonder how good a Guardian Druid is at that instead?
Because of course, Monks have the Rose, Warriors have the Heroic Leaps.
Guardian Druid, well, I guess it has its overall, but that's largely it.
Yeah, I think they have less mobility, but they are also, I think they are stronger when it comes
to dealing with the front-souls of the boss that we're doing a lot of damage.
So, yeah, I wonder if it's like maybe it's only there to give a buff and also like you have like the ability to have a miss river
Miss river that does on top of the good healing so much damage at the same time.
Oh, unfortunately, cover players went down to some other mechanics. That was nothing to do with the healing of the tanking.
That it will end up going a little bit pear shaped as you would expect from this boss. This boss farms pools, you know, and some of them are very short like that one, which was 48 seconds long.
it's very easy to go down I think at the end of an egg phase we're about three
minutes into the fight aren't we so we're looking like a six minute fight
overall yeah something like that I mean depends what they are doing with the
bloodlust if they are sending it to the egg yeah it's it's like about two minutes
something okay at the end of the egg it's like about yeah like streaming
something so yeah I think it's like six minutes fights okay and technically you
can also be like okay we are gonna burn phase one and then you can potentially
have three egg phase but we've seen that liquid and echo are not trying to by
removing a healer they are telling us that yeah they want to kill the boss
within two egg phases that's why they are looking for it at least yeah they
We must have mapped it out for it to be possible as well.
I was listening to their comms earlier today, and Skype was literally saying, okay, we can
get damage from so many other places right now.
Let's not worry about that.
We're focusing on these other tasks and the problems that we're going over.
And that's what they should do, because they still didn't reach a point where they saw
the Enrich.
Yes, exactly.
which the enrage would be for them
killing like
Ending phase to a second egg phase. Yes. Yeah without killing the egg
That would be there in the rage if I can yeah
I would say so I think so even if the boss can still be like
Even if the boss is not waving them after like I don't think you can go through an entire
third phase one at this point. No, I don't think so either especially because the
healing reduction stacks so it's going to be 20% reduction. It certainly will be
and they will have pretty much no mana, which is a huge healing reduction when you
can't cast your spells. But it is a tough one when it comes down to
that as to, you know, we don't even know what is happening during the second egg.
We assume that the egg phase is the same, right? Who knows? We haven't seen the
entirety of a second egg phase.
There could be different patterns.
There might be different orgs during it as well.
There could be crazy orbs.
It could be crazy orbs during the, oh, don't actually,
no, we don't need anything more,
but as it will happen, what we've got will fall.
Because of course the first phase one
and the second time that we're in phase one,
so the second time we're fighting the bird,
we do have a new orb pattern that emerges
where we have these orbs that spawn like in a ring around
and slowly collapse inwards.
That isn't there and present on the first phase.
So there are, you know, changes that are kind of subtly woven as you progress through the fight.
And it's something that because no guild is like fully explored it, as I said, maybe Liquid has,
but I not to know if they've seen to the end of the second egg.
There's still some, you know, fog of war on this fight that's yet to be explored, which is exciting.
Narkr deciding that he doesn't want to proc anymore.
Oh.
Is that enough?
You see this connected because he's not at the venue so it could be like an internet issue it could be
But if there is a rat paladin out there, we're looking for in the group finder now
Does medic has a paladin that he can bring?
Yeah, he's got medic in here
You can do some work
But yeah, I mean, yeah, we're just waiting for the aqua right now as you guys can see and uh, yeah
We learn the fight a little bit and get consistent as consistent as they can and as soon as we see the whole fight
They can be like, okay now we need to find DPS right now
It's all about pulling the boss being having everyone alive for that second egg face and
Like see the as you said that it could be like a different pattern see how the button goes and
Try to survive until the end of the egg face and then you can be like, okay now we kill the boss
Yeah, we've seen it all. If we see to the end of that when everyone is alive, then it's like, that's unlocked. We've seen everything we need to, we'll work out any of the last DPS cooldowns that we need in order to try and get through, we might send some Vantus on some characters that we're pretty confident won't be seeing.
Yeah, as long as you didn't reach these points, DPS doesn't matter.
Yeah, largely, you're right. Yeah, the only sort of DPS checks that actually matter right now are the ones in phase one making sure that we're getting through that phase before we get the dreaded third set of ads that are preventing us from going any further right now.
If we ever really get them, it's kind of a white. There is a world, right? Where this might be a little bit cooked in phase two, because we haven't seen them necessarily get into the second egg, right?
without seeing this third set of ads.
Do you think that one of the strats maybe is
that they extend the length of that second phase,
that bird phase, so that they are fully juiced up
so as soon as they go into the egg,
they have every single cooldown down to man,
so they can get through it super, super quickly.
Because there's no boss DPS check
if you are happy to live in that phase
for an entire third set of ads.
I mean, that could really be the case.
I think we were talking about it
even before the boss got released,
that could be something and also I think the liquid started to do this they had so
don't like they swapped back to another like strategy but at some point they
had a sneak aura saying slow DPS when getting into the end of phase one oh
yes so they could like a wait for pull downs to be back and then they pushed a
the boss at the correct timer and then they have everything available for the egg.
Of course, yeah.
It could be something.
Yeah, it's just, yeah, because they want to make sure that they're pushing the boss
as soon as the, just before the third ads urge you to spawn, right?
That's what they're going for, I believe.
And then maybe you can deal with them.
Yeah, and then you have loads of time.
And so you can have your cousins back on the egg, because maybe I believe if you pop CDs
on pool. I don't think they are back when you are about to face the boss if you want
to skip. Oh I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. No, I think you're right. Yeah, I think the eggs largely appear around like the 150-ish
mark, so I think you still can get use out of it. But that's only if you push it the
correct time. If you push too soon then you're not going to be able to get full use out of
the cooldowns. And then of course that means less egg damage and sadness all around. But
talking about sadness that has been washed away as we have been gracefully joined by a good demand
Nako obviously fixing off whatever was causing the issues there so hopefully everything's all
right on that front but he's back ready to red it up it's a very strange tier as well not only
just because of the layout of the race but the fact that we've had Nako in on every single
product that is very odd all it took for Nako to be back in on Rat Paladin is that both Holy and
proper complete dog that's all we needed all this time my class is not the best but you know what the
other classes are specs are worse so it's okay but red student red's always been doing like
generally quite all right you know it's just in the race of our first quite all right is not you
know it's not bins it's not the best class you could possibly bring so um haven't really seen too
much of it because of that we'll see as we go through um yeah this is uh gonna be interesting to
see how far they can get with this new comp. Yeah yeah really like I want to see how it goes
but I'm pretty sure like it's the strongest stronger comp that's what they were running
they just need to get used to it now and prog the fights. Yeah this one there is a lot of things
you can see the rebirth for example when you are killing the two adds they are in an egg form and
if this cast goes through it's like an instant wipe. It is. So there are so many things that can
just kill you here on top of this you have the orbs that were soaked by some tanks and also some
players it does a lot of damage when you soak it so you would rather have a tank or someone with
enmity to do it as we can see now Miraz is taking care of it that's Druid soaking the light orbs
because he has the light debuff also on top of this he's taunting and taking the light cone
teeth on the voice cone here if you mess up like if you miss one soak that you're supposed to be in
the boss is gonna get like 100% increase damage and he's gonna have this red shape like he's gonna be like angry
angry angry basically so you cannot miss anything as a tank here. It's a lot of responsibility on the tanks throughout this entire fight
it's one misstep as you say you just immediately the boss is like oh yeah now everyone just instantly dies now
unlucky they need to push through here looks like they're gonna be doing so at a very good time check this out by the way
See how the shamans are going on the far side of the room with the evokas
We're gonna cover this in a bit more detail later
But right now those shamans are getting all of the evoker buffs to themselves
It is very clever
Because they are like a hundred yards away from the reds the evoker buff only goes on the shamans
So instead of buffing like spread your buff among all the players
They are just giving it to the shamans instead and they are look at the damage they're doing to the eggs right now
stove and a sham pumping the eggs so much we are going into 60% HP we obviously
popped the bloodlust here and we also have to play the mechanics be if you are
light player you have to stand on the light area same as void it's the
opposite and looks like we managed to get to 53% with the first phase first
which is I mean it's good yeah it's not bad at all especially as it is the first
time we got there with this new comp we've soda dead as well so no res is
are available anymore as we're going into one of the more complicated parts of the fight.
Need to get these overlapped Venn diagrams over there. Looks like we have managed to
get the adsoaps done well. Grips coming in at the same time as feathers going out. We've
got to get these soaks in a good position. Looks like we were able to do so. Here comes
the new set of orbs though. These orbs that are surrounding the boss and they're all coming
in towards it. You can already see that the tanks have pre-positioned the boss ever so
slightly out of the way but those quills so lethal so much stuff going in all at once yeah so the
things have to do a nice job we could see mirrors and was like soaking all the light orbs but we did
lose players due to the the beams that are targeting them you need someone that has the
opposite color to like protect the player someone that has the same color as the quill i believe
so they can like protect him but also on mythic you have you splash like around you so you also
need to be spread out from the red. I love that from Mara as well, he was very low and he's like
you know what, soak as many oils as I can as I like. He soaked one and then instantly died.
A decent pull though from Echo I would say that, that's certainly moving in the right direction.
It's good to see that they are able to get back to their prog point with this new comp swap as
sort of minimal as it is mainly from like the healing and tanking perspective that we see in
the changes so those guys getting back into the flow of things might take a few
pulls before we're super comfortable but very good players I'm sure we're not
too much I really enjoy this shaman tech yeah so I don't know if there's
perhaps we could get a replay of that we can maybe explain it in a little bit of
more detail my friend production yeah okay cool so we made very well to able
to bring that but do you want to kind of go over maybe a little bit like grand
level as to how that works the augmentation buff check. So before
midnight you would put pressure on your players and you would buff like the
players that have the pressure and in total you would a proxy buff as well
players so in total you would buff like four players. Yes. Now it got changed
you are buffing the entire red but this buff it's the ebon mines it has a hundred
hundred yard range so if you cannot reach all the players this is not gonna
be this is not gonna spread among all the players this is only gonna go on the
two only players you can buff which were the shamans here so it's like all the
buffs you can like spread to the red you're just putting it on two shamans
exactly that and because they are so strong in this window like a 30 seconds
window on the egg they are the best targets for this kind of buff and also I
believe they are probably getting the two PIs if they scale nicely for what you'd
want I thought this would I thought this will go on the hunters but if they are
doing this tech obviously it has to go on the shamans so I think we do have
replay which will show to you guys now then of exactly what's going on just to kind of
Recover this you'll see that once again the shamans are going very far away with the evokas the evokas cast their ebon might which is
Buffs that are spread very importantly spread amongst everybody so instead of spreading the damage increase across like what 14
DPS members it's spreading it basically just to the two shamans
It would also be going to the other org I assume but either way it's making it so those shamans are mega pumped up
That's the whole idea behind it very clever very sneaky little bit of tech that they use in there to get a little bit more
Damage out and I think the reason that they're doing it
Even though they're not really that desperate to do a lot of egg damage right now
Is it something that you're gonna need to get used to over the course of it might as well make it muscle memory now?
And get and work out any of the sort of issues that you may very well have when trying to pull off this maneuver
Yeah, I agree we said like it's not all about damage
But you also have to if you if you think that this take you're gonna be using it on the kill
you should start doing it there's no point like doing the normal thing for the muscle memory of
course you're right yeah this is really exciting yeah I did watch quite a lot of liquid I must admit
I didn't remember seeing it but I don't know if they were or not so either way it's very clever
Whoever came up with it double thumbs up. We do like a little bit of cheeky tech
It's always always fun to see so good stuff as it looks like they are having a little bit of a chit chat
There is going to be
We expected to be a little bit of downtime between their pools, especially after a comp swap
Yeah, I'm not necessarily sure if there's too much strategy
Why is that they need to do a massive change for right now? They kind of know what their strategy is and how to execute it
So it's probably more just going over some individual assignments based stuff would be my guess
It could be healing cooldowns because we removed as we said a restored route for Miss Weaver Monk
So we have to adjust a bit medicine cooldowns in order to keep everyone alive
You can see fellow though. They just coming back to the fight after not really playing at all this morning
Coming in on second pull and doing the work that is needed to be done
Once again, we're not really having deaths so people just slowly taken out. That's very very unlikely
It's much more people dying because ouch one shot big hurt
We did lose a sword at the beginning of the egg phase I believe. It must have been like a maybe a fail
I mean happens right? Yeah of course
During that phase you're also like okay I need two DPS Yag to do as much DPS as I can
But also at the same time you have to survive. It doesn't damage so you also have personal cooldowns that you have to press
to have to press as a proper timing.
They are pretty sure they are using reminders telling you,
oh, you need to press personal now.
Yeah, that happens, you know.
Even to the best.
Yeah, it's one of those things as well
that if you're really not on top of exactly
what allocation or feather that you have,
so, you know, obviously just gonna go
over grand scheme throughout this fight,
because there is a fair amount going on.
The best way of trying to read this fight is that if you have a holy feather, so you're
obviously in that holy color, you should interact with holy mechanics.
You shouldn't get hit by any of the void ones, and of course if you are void, you know shadow,
this sort of bluish color, then feel free to send in as much shadow stuff as you can.
Obviously we've been reasoned because you still have, it basically grants you a 50% damage
reduction.
And also, for certain mechanics such as these orbs, it will prevent you from taking like
a one minute long dart and all those sorts of things.
You'll see a lot of players, you know, holy players soaking holy things and you'll be able to see here
The shadow player on the left-hand side of your screen running over to take that shadow line
For the holy player. So there's a lot of those sorts of mechanics going on
But if you ever fail one of those you pretty much are one-shot normally independently
It doesn't normally kill the entire raid, but it's a you know independently you are going to die to that
But so far so good. Yeah, we can see right now for example Genji is like protecting. I believe Mason from the
the dark feather. So basically if you avoid you protect your light allies from the void
and if you're light you protect your void allies from the lights. That's how it goes.
And Belloran is swapping colors. You can still start with light and stay light though. It
doesn't like swap you to the other color all the time. Like it's like a shuffle. And we
can see Axol as well getting sucked this time around by a Neville Kerr. I believe this
This is a Frago, for example, so yeah, this shadow mechanic, and it looks like the tank
swap got in trouble here, because the boss is a reg, it's an angry bird, as you can see.
It is an angry bird, and even if we managed to kill him, we would just turn into an angry
egg, but so unfortunately, he did go a little pear shape there with the tank stuff, as you
are right, it's a like, if at any point during that tank buster, the holy cone hits a shadow
player, then the boss invaders, and of course vice versa.
So that's unfortunately what we ran into there.
It also happens if he doesn't hit anyone.
Yes.
So you have, you need to think with the proper color inside the cone.
Otherwise, this is enrich as well.
So there's two conditions, right?
Has to hit the correct person and cannot hit the wrong person.
Which do sound like the same thing, but they are different.
Even if it is technically, they are different in terms of what the boss is asking you to do.
So it's yeah, I'm mainly interested because even with this comp change awesome very happy
It looks like we're gonna have some more damage. They're more comfortable with it
The characters are still very very strong
We are still going to be running into the same mechanical hurdles that we need to get over which is post phase
They've posted the first egg phase when we're in that second bird phase. There's just so much going on on the screen
and it's mainly I
I think we can kind of comfortably limp to the point in which we are just about to get the second set of ads come in
When those second ads come in it feels like a whole new wave of chaos happens, and we're just not ready to you know
Survive it. We never have we've never got through those ads cleanly not with everyone alive
It's like the coils going on at the same time as those orbs to be soaked
I don't know if there's something that they need to change on a fundamental level to get through that or it is just reps
Or they're waiting for a god pool god pools seems a little bit unlikely though
It's more like getting used to it. You think so? Yeah, especially with the
Healing reduction we are gonna get like on the second phase one
Like getting into these adds with the healing reduction at the same time quite hard. So yeah, just maybe moving some
Defensive cooldowns, maybe like a rallying cry. I don't know. Yeah
This could be things that we can still change in order to progress and get into that second egg phase
with everyone alive I hope. Let's see well we'll follow Tief for this poll it'll be interesting to see how he does with his new guardian responsibilities
how he's going to be dealing with the soaks on the ads of the orbs at the side of the room. So he's pressing a roar and you can see that Miras is taking care of all the orbs and Tief is dragging the boss closer to the wall of avoid orbs so we have more time to serve the light ones
taking care of the cones here as you can see Mires has to turn here because he is void,
Tiff is light, Tiff turns back here and takes the light cone. So yeah you can see he's getting
knocked into a light hole which is fine because it's his color. If it was Mires he would have died
to it. He certainly would have and soaking those orbs you might be thinking like well we've got
to soak the orbs so the players can go through of the opposite color but we also want to soak
them so that the boss doesn't get hit because that will also kill you on method. One thing though
So one of these orbs reach to the side of the room and they will ricochet and they will come through with what we call crazy orbs, which are about to start flowing in.
But because they soak so many of them nowadays, it barely even feels like a thing.
Like they do it so smoothly that they generally don't have to worry too much about these orbs, especially in phase one.
They're pretty on top of them. They're about to wipe to it now that I've said it.
But the biggest cross not. We will see.
Yeah, I mean it's even worse on phase 2 with the crazy hops we have at the beginning.
Oh, this was looking? Okay, that's okay, because Tief wanted to stay here in order to protect the Void player from the light feathers, so he stood there, mirrors had two tones.
Also, we are taking care now with the rebirth phase of the two adds. They are in a mag, we need to kill them before it reaches zero seconds, otherwise it wipes the red.
and it looks like we are killing the bell around we went what the first phase went well and not
it's going to be second phase like first egg phase sorry we can see that the shamans and the
evokers are already really far away doing their tech pressing the get ready to get to the proper
timing so we are not getting a knockback in the air and yeah everyone alive now that is the burn
phase yeah let's see of course you need to soak the orb through in this phase as well if any of
of them touch the egg you're gonna be in a very sad spot so you can see teeth hanging around a
little bit in that void cone just to make sure they do all right with that with the egg already
sub 60% with 10 seconds left oh my word this looks like it's going to be a rather large
new best percentage on this we need to be 46 but yeah okay okay okay okay okay okay stop guys what's
going on that was a 41 percenter okay so um it looks like they may have fixed some of their
damage problems it doesn't matter though it's very cool don't get me wrong love it but oh damn that
all look like an early hit the buster it's very very cool to see but still we have a lot of work
to do elsewhere let's see how we can get through this phase of course the players going out towards
the edge to be immunity soaked while the tanks are going to be dealing with the tank buses as
It's hard to tell with these people's UIs, thanks for Lizard, it can be quite a difficult
thing to see and unfortunately yes still going down at that point I'm not sure what caused
Meris to die there but once again new tank trying it on more and for the first time chances
I just went a little bit pear shaped as a tank. It's despite it looks really like a heart
You have to do so many things on top of like managing the cons mechanic of the bus
Which is like the tone like part of the bus you also need to make room to the players with the
two circles by clearing all the
The orbs that are in a line. So that's what mirrors was doing with his heroic lip
So the technically you in the air, but the game is like
okay you it's like a straight line but even if you're in the air you're gonna
soak the orbs that are on the floor yeah which is like good and it's really
like pretty to see at the same time they also have to do this job when it comes
to the egg face because the DPS are busy DPSing the healers are busy killing and
also you're the tank guests so it should be you so we can and also one thing
there is important is there's always one void tank and always one light tank so
you don't have this RNG you always know that there is at least all that the
buff tanks can cover both colors which is like really interesting as well yeah
it's that's tons to it we can see there 41.5% which jumped like 6% on that egg so
the changes obviously already paying off and I'm sure that there's always more
damage to be found so an excellent new best pull for echo egg percentage wise we're still getting to
the point of production.
Tradition is saying egg, silence, fourth or no.
Can't do this to me, can't do it.
No, I'm not really scared when it comes to the DPS requirements, I think they got it as well.
They just need to have everyone alive because obviously it was during blood loss
they still have 41% to do but also we're gonna have execute phase with the hunters
like gaining more crit from it. So I'm not that scared. No, I think it'll be all right. Easy for
us. No problems at all. I wonder as well what they're doing with their potions. Potions are
a five-minute cooldown nowadays, right? Yeah. So if you want to use two potions on this fight,
you'd use one, you'd use the potion in the first phase and then you'd use the potion in the egg,
second egg face that would to be get the most amount of potions I don't know if
that would be the correct decision though because you wouldn't be having
potions during your bloodlust which seems like a troll
I think you want to wait for your bloodlust
okay that scenario yeah makes sense you just want to send everything
during bloodlust yeah everything you can sometimes you want to sacrifice one
pot like one pot to have like a really good one
it's usually better yeah um I just noticed whether I was to wait for a
pool I think we got ourselves quite a big donation I think got the uh oh this
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Anonymous, $10, thank you for clearing up.
In that, let's hope the scale goes 0.2% to Echo this time.
I look at both streams.
Once again, thank you for a good answer.
Oh, I think there might have been a lot of mics.
There was a person who was asking about
what we were talking about earlier, funnily enough,
about Liquid obviously going through
and doing a bunch of heroic march of Gold and Arse,
and with Echo not doing any of it,
they were asking what sort of ramifications
they would have both in terms of the loot
that they would be getting,
also in terms of the practice that you get on the bosses just by spamming them over and over again.
So, yeah, we kind of cover that as well, but yes, you're most welcome for the answer.
Thank you so much.
I do appreciate the donations, of course, do get them going in gang.
We have, well, I think this is our last donation incentive is the triple A adventure.
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That would be doing in the post show as you can see that we've already gotten
through so many of our charity incentives, which is fantastic.
guys always you know befuddled me with your generosity so it's very very humbling
gang thank you so so much everyone who has donated let's see if Bella in here
will donate us a kill and hopefully give us some good RNG to get through this
particular element of it why has Mary's been soaking every single one of these
walls recently oh that was a bit close yeah he's been soaking every single one
it feels like okay I feel I think depending on what is the nearest
color they are going to go next to the orbs the correct orbs so let's say if
mirrors is lights they are gonna drag the bus near the light orbs so mirrors
can always soak with the heroic leap the first orbs you see what I mean I do
understand what you're saying I just it looks like they were always tending
towards this bottom left area of the room though and of course the first
orbs are left and right so I think if it was the wrong colored orbs they wouldn't
have time to readjust that was only my concern you might be you may very well be right pretty sure
earlier he was at void and he the first thing that he did was talking to void orbs i could be
wrong uh i'm gonna take a look at it i'm gonna pay more attention it just seems it i think it just
so happens that the orbs at spawn near them have just been marys color every time because i haven't
seen teeth do a whole round of orbs in a long time oh that's a frontal oh dear is teeth down as well
the boss is the rage. Oh dear, it might have just happened. It's an angry bird again. Yeah, it is an angry bird.
My word, this fight is fragile man. Yeah, I think it's like you have one of your tanks that has like
insane mobility as a warrior with the Heraklip being able to soak so many orbs at the same time.
So you definitely want mirrors to do like a bigger job when it comes to the orbs than teeth. Yeah. And
Usually it's a tank soaks like a really good amount of orbs to make a path for the the debuff players
and then the other ones are going to be soaked by
Some players one by one you have more time to just riding the bus next to like the first ones
So you have more time to soak the others. So it's like no pressure
But you definitely need to make a room for the soak players in order to to stand like a
Like a next to the wall overlap a little bit each other. So you have like two immune suckers
Yeah, I think if you could choose which tank was going to do it each time, you would do
marries every single time, right?
Because of that correctly, and as a druid, you have Sam Peding Roar, which is a grand
comparison.
You're not going to be able to cover as much ground in such a short period of time.
But whether or not it is something that they can choose, unless they've unlocked choosing
tech, which I don't think they have, we'll find out.
Okay, let's see.
He was light previously.
if he is gonna be like still light or if it's gonna be avoid instead so he's got
light at the moment you can see with his uh oh yeah he got light already so yeah
yeah it just happens that light is the close one again I don't know there's
something going on here I trust these guys they're up to no good yeah what was
it was it like that before like last time we did the bell around well last
time was in bell around both tanks would be responsible for so can the orbs I
I think they still are. It just so happens that we're seeing the same thing over and over again. Unless they have unlocked some tech. I don't know.
I think they're lucky so far. We take these. There is a fair amount of RNG on this fight in terms of, you know, not only the orientation of the orbs, which tank has, which color to soak those orbs, the kind of random nature of the bounces that are happening, where the quills are spawning.
who is chosen for the soaks as well because those soaks can go on healers which is a nice
they shouldn't be able to if you ask me but the healers can get soaks at this point as well
so it's um it's rough yeah and we saw that now Mirage was like Void so Tief took care of all
the these ops it was like it took him like longer time but he did manage uh someone has to soak
this Quill though okay not great communication they did get it done but I took care of it and
I also really enjoyed the fact that they are pinning a lot using a lot of pinks for this kind of mechanic
Especially when there is someone that is so cute
He's always like putting a
Like a beware marker because like it splashes around lucky. We can see on frog or for example on the screen here
There we go. So it looks like they're gonna finish up this last egg
They've got a few seconds to do so and they're gonna be pushing the boss into the egg phase
Echoes last Sunday was in this phase got it to 41.5
We'll see if we can get it lower, even though it's a fun thing to see, but it doesn't matter that much.
Not to spoil it for anyone, gang, but it's more to do with how we're going to be getting out of this phase.
Let's see what they can do, though. Big damage going out onto the group.
Wrong side there, Stove, right? No.
No, he's okay, he's okay.
I saw that little icon. You see the holy sort of...
Oh yeah, I see that.
So obviously way better than I am, when it comes to seeing that, the egg is going to be dropping down, probably looking at somewhere in the mid 45s maybe.
No, we're going to be more close to the high 48.
That's okay, it doesn't matter, we just want to get through this phase now and we can see the crazy orbs happening.
We have Narko trying to soak all of them, the hunters as well, Helene with her total at the same time.
And now we can see mirrors is a void and
No hit the boss one of the crazy orbs hit the boss that's such a shame such a shame
There are so many there are so many they're really really are it seems like they are soaking less orbs in the egg phase now
I'm not sure if that's because they want their tanks just to be doing more damage to the boss
But it does mean they're coming out of those egg phase and going back into the bird phase
just have an absolute ton of these ricocheting orbs making it very difficult. The boss doesn't
give you a whole lot of time to counter that. Like one really good nerf on this fight would
be that the boss gives you two extra seconds before starting that phase. You know, it pops
out of its egg and then it does like a little dance for two seconds, then it starts pulsing
airway. It just gives you that extra bit of time just to clean up what was happening in
the intermission.
Yeah, because you have some time before the egg phase is going to happen, like you were
just sitting waiting for the boss to launch but after the egg phase is over it's like instantly chaos
you have arms everywhere you need the players to instantly pop their immunities and they were doing
a good job I believe it was like maybe two hunters using turtle and norco as well was even though he's
a melee he was losing a time on the boss in order to soak as many as hopes he could with his immunities
because the paladins and the hunters are both classes that can immune and run at the same time.
Yeah, 100% there we go, caught me saying it, it's because the production sense is like in my head at the same time.
And it just got me to say a word. You're entirely right though, it's one of the reasons not only just hunters,
the hunters especially for this fight just seem so well made for it, the damage that you require,
as well as the hypermobile immunity is perfect. Those two things go so well hand in hand.
They have really long immunity as well, 8 seconds. So super useful and that's why you see four of
them. Like you can actually see on a long fight, hunters aren't doing crazy amount of overall
damage. You can look at that damage meter and see that. But the sorts of damage they're doing is
very, very important and they aren't having a lot of uptime because they're running around in
in Tauful. Yeah, I wonder, because right now it's overall damage, right? So what's there?
Damage on the egg, for example. Yeah, maybe they do less damage on phase one, but more
damage on the egg. You don't really know. But yeah, you're right. They are doing such
a good job when it comes to the orb, but also at the same time, they are also soaking the
circles that are overlapping the light circle and avoid persons. They need to be soaked by
by two immune players and the hunters are also doing a skin-off rotation soak.
So yeah, they are doing so many jobs that they have less time on the bus
because obviously when you're under a turtle, you just come DPS for 8 seconds,
which is a lot.
So yeah, that's why probably the shamans, obviously they have their
Octech on top of it.
The products for example, has like an easiest job on this fight, I would say.
So Spen is like pumping a lot.
Yeah, you're very right in that.
They're largely just trying to plant themselves
and do as much damage as possible,
whilst mainly soaking quills, that's largely it.
They kind of want to stay out of the way of everything else.
It's been kind of handled by the rest of the team.
Who will see, as we are going into pool number 111,
this boss has surpassed all of the pool counts
of the Voidspire put together,
and they doubled at this point.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think it was around 70 pulls throughout the entirety of WoW.
Maybe even less.
Yeah, feels a little bad.
But this is good. That's what we like to see.
This is going to be a good start to a good week of the race to World First.
We've not only got this incredibly challenging boss,
but we've got a boss after this that has far more mechanical complexity to it
in terms of all the different layers,
as well as a bunch of mechanics no one has ever seen,
in like in the flesh you know we've got so many different mythic variations of
it so we just got to get through this bird and then we can see everything that
we want Velo unfortunately going down a battle is available for him though we
will want to get him up as soon as we can but we have actually got very few
people who can battle as it's basically just narco and spend
but yeah he has to get out of his bear from I believe in order to wrestle
I think you can do a range now. I think you can.
Alright, yeah.
Yeah, see the way, the tank doesn't want to lose too much rage.
They're doing a lot of work in this, so
I'm just gonna make sure we're gonna get this egg down now.
Make sure the raid is gonna be surviving this Void-like convergence.
You wanna face the boss? It was a little bit...
I feel like it took a little bit longer this time.
Maybe like three more seconds of like a pulsing airy damage,
Which you ideally want to avoid and we can see right now there are back a mason with his funglin form
You can see those they can do so much damage in this phase because they can just basically spirit smoker grace the whole thing as well
Which is making them cast on the move and you know during ascendance against so many proxies and stuff like that on top of it
Anyway, you know just so much damn going out from our
shamans you can see them to rock it up the DPS as the boss is going to be going
at least sub 50% this egg is getting scrambled as we are at 47 and some
change okay not bad once again we're now in the lock-in mode good luck how fun
there's a billion mechanics we saw so many orbs knuckle again and the
Hunter is taking care of them and now it's like the tanks the tanks job we could see mirrors taking care of the all the lines
So the the debuffs they can stand here now
We have two phoenixes that are being gripped by a crash
You need to DPS them and DPS their egg form at the same time. That was fine. We must do it. Sorry
You'll be seeing these orbs now also coming in towards the boss a new type of orb that would slowly collapse into what a place
This is what we always lose players so if going down
We will have the on guard. Unfortunately, he's falling down teeth as well. No rest for one minute
And unfortunately the tank combination coming in Meris can't do all of it by himself
So close to having that go so smooth
But we are cheating a little bit further and the tank combination did end
But a little bit too much rate down too many of the healers down at the same time
Unfortunate very cool to see was so close to fixing that phase just need to see it a few more times
Yeah, because his face is not that long like the boss is already at like 57% so you need like
Maybe one more minute of the fight in order to get into that last egg face
Yeah, this is gonna be their last egg face. We are not gonna see the third one. That's why they removed the healer
They are probably meeting the DPS check as we were saying so yeah
I mean it's just this one minute they have to work on and then
the boss could eventually die. Yeah, very exciting stuff. While we're waiting for them to get into
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Whilst we're waiting for the players to jump in, shall we take ourselves a little couple minutes?
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our way through it's a bellerin prog we are on pool number 113 and we have not seen a second egg
but uh nice memes told us that we are probably gonna see a kill this afternoon
i think so as well he even said this afternoon he didn't say this evening you're right so uh
on our shift on our shifts yeah because we're here until four so they've got three hours well
well two hours and forty five minutes to get this boss down. I think that it dies on
pool roughly around 150. So we've got what 37 pools in which to get there. They spell
them out quick enough. Then we'll be alright I think. Yeah let's go. The doubt. So for
those who are just tuning in and wondering what's going on on that site and what they
they are struggling with right now at the moment.
It's all about phase one, second phase one,
basically like the second part of it
where you have the second at the spawn
and also like the second time,
the players are being targeted by the light circle
and the void circle.
And it's to overlap and be sucked by two minutes players.
That's where usually we are starting to have this.
Yes, is where all sorts of crumble apart.
unfortunately they are not able to keep themselves all together too much at that moment in time
but it's something that they are actively cooking right now all the players we're not on a break
but we are working the way you can see our two masterminds at the head of Echo with Roger Brown
and Scribe in the background they're working very hard away at this particular boss so fingers crossed
that they can finish off whatever needs to be finished I have full faith that they are working
out that last little bit where it is particularly nasty that overlap. Yeah because we're constantly
losing players here there are so many stuff so you could probably move like a healing cooldown
or defensive cooldowns like you can also be like okay as a hunter for example you're not going to
press your survival the t-test here but you're going to keep it for this like pain point of the
fight instead there could be this kind of stuff you can move in order to be stronger during that
that moment that hurts a lot and be able to manage this second phase.
You're entirely right, especially when it comes down to the Quills, which are the beams that we've been seeing, right?
Where the feather shoots across. That particular mechanic is a one-shot on someone
if it hits the wrong person, but it's survivable with the personal.
It does like around 400k damage. I could double check my next one.
From memories, around 400k damage, which is about your max health pool, maybe ever so slightly less.
slightly less and of course we have got the tick and damage coming out from the burning
heart of the boss so you're not exactly always going to be 100% but if you have a defensive
fall that moment which is the most chaotic bit and someone isn't able to soak you, you're
accidentally clipped by someone else's stuff there is a chance you'll be able to squeeze
through it and survive because a lot of this is coming down to not necessarily healing
output.
We're free healing this and I think that the healers although they are being tested there's
probably more space where they could you oh you need to see more healing we
probably could you know these guys are amazing amazing players and a lot of the
deaths that we're having are not just because the healers aren't healing in
time it's because people are just getting one shot there's so many past
fair mechanics on this fight it looks like they have sorted out whatever they
did want to sort starting off in the opposite end of the room just to
confuse us oh no are they changing oh my god perfect I just died that is part of
I think I know what they're just I think this area of the room is just harder to deal with and they're just being here early. Yeah, I mean, this area of the room because you got all of the sort of environment which is taking up space. Can you see on the left there's a pillar and I think that over here because they want this first face to be harder because, you know, like, why would you add, let's say that the terrain is adding to the difficulty, right.
that pillar and crap. I think that over here because they want this first phase to be harder
because you know like why would you add let's say that the terrain is adding to the difficulty
right so this area of the room is just fundamentally harder for whatever reason why are you stacking
the harder mechanics of the harder terrain you want to separate those out you're doing
the harder terrain with the easier mechanics so that when you're in the next time you're
on the bird phase you're in the easier part of the room that's maybe I'm literally pulling
that on my ass but it could be who knows they know yeah you may be right I don't know I have no idea
what they changed the sites but it has to be for something at least like you why would you like
change the empire like a way you're pulling the bus when you're pulling it so yeah I mean I wonder
that that could be the case it just rotated the room like it has to be a reason right please tell
me that's a reason. Yeah, so we are getting into this the end of this first phase taking
care of the adds as we can see this one is going to turn into a neck that we need to take care of
before getting into this intermission they have a couple of seconds before it starts though so
they will be able to take care of it while the shamans and evokers we go far away as we can see
mason is already gone here they're going to do their tech where the shamans are going to get all
all the oak buffs in order to do an insane amount of damage to the egg and here it comes
they have to they don't have a gateway here we have okay the rescues beautiful is that
why then yes he can pre place a gateway here he pre place a gateway here we gateway here
so the gateway is being used only by the shamans and the the oaks the entire group is not using
the the gateway I know the entire group did use the gateway going into this it was that
the the the shamans and orcs make their way in purely through the use of rescue oh i'm pretty sure
they use gates we but i could double check we'll see next summer in here this egg is low that was a
46 percent we've seen long but now we get to see the crazy tech where they fight on the other side
of the room and apparently that's good for reasons we'll find out as long as they can soak all of
these orbs none of them can touch the boss unfortunately charmey going down is not what
we're after here we have not got a res available for them as well but we still have the immunities
that we need in order to deal with the mechanic a quick taunt from meres in order to take that tank
buster then they're gonna have to share this upcoming one there is a quill on the left side of
the boss fortunately picked up by nice memes always hyper aware of what's going on so far so good
okay so i think i realized something the way they're placed their 2d buffs the light one and the void
one. It wasn't behind the wall of orbs you usually took. It was on the side way before the orbs would
let touch you. So I think they did change this if I'm correct. Okay, all right, well this is very
exciting. They placed them on moon instead. So two players are down. This is three players are down.
This is the best that we have seen it up to this point before. We will see how it all pans out. We're
we're gonna see a little bit of a teeth clear here as you can see they are so
much more chill this is this is really smart yeah obviously it's all got a bit
like you know fits up but it's really smart this is very clever they seem to
affix something we did we were also losing players too so they have the
second debuffs the light one and the void one and they have to go so the
tank has to clear the path so they can like cross and then place themselves
but we already had wipes where they were slow because at the same time you also have all the
cones the boss is doing and it can like be like in your path and you have to wait because there
is a cone so now you're going like on moon and even if the tank is like for example slow to
soak the orbs it doesn't it doesn't matter because the orbs are not there yet so you can just place
your bottles you have obviously two union sockets that are in the middle where it overlaps in order
to make them survive but it seems like they changed the way like where they're placing it at least.
Yeah there's far less panic when it comes to saving those orbs now just because as you've just very
rightfully said you only have to do all the one close set whereas beforehand we'd be getting to
points where there's tons of orbs all over the place and it was really nasty that is a substantial
step in the right direction they have just made the fight far easier for themselves far more annoying
to set up for as you can see plays in the top right having to walk all the way around to the other
side of the boss which is annoying but we'd rather have that than anything else of course
players were falling over here and there but it was much cleaner that's the cleanest we've ever
seen it and that was their first pull with the new strategy so and we did lose perfecto at the very
beginning we did also lose perfecto at the very beginning yeah um that's exciting gang this is
this is like the breakthrough that we was after. 114 pulls have largely slamming your head into an
incredibly difficult overlap. We've been seeing this overlap since pull 50 I would have to say,
maybe even earlier than that and we still haven't found a very easy and smooth way of getting through
it. Now we have, perhaps, that's something that's easier. If you can get through this overlap with
everyone alive, which this overlap is of course all the orbs spawning, crazy orbs, you have the
line orbs as well the things I have to take care of all the quills also the the two soaks with the
phoenix the two phoenix spawns that you have to grip after that it seems like it gets a little bit
easier before a second egg phase is about to happen so you just have to get through it with
everyone alive we've seen that we were like losing two three players there you don't want to lose the
those players for sure you have you want to have everyone alive for the x-phase because it's like
like the burn phase of the boss, that's where you are damaging the boss. The phase one doesn't
matter, it's just you just getting through it in order to have the egg phase.
Of course, yeah, it's any league players out there, it's the Anivia Passive. You can't kill the egg.
It doesn't matter what Anivia itself is, we've got the egg that we need to kill.
You're entirely right. That's where we're focusing all of our dam. It's more just making sure that we are on pace.
to keep pace with the bus. If you go fast in phase one you're actually doing yourself a disservice
big time. You want to make sure that you're very strong for those egg phases overall.
Yeah, they are pretty much facing the first burst. The first egg phase is happening around
1.1 minutes 50 and they have like 10 seconds of waiting. They are just waiting for the bus to
launch and do the knockback so you just don't dps for like a couple of seconds
and as soon as the egg appears you your two minutes cooldowns are usually back
yeah so you don't want to phase the boss too quickly as you said it's really
correct also not too late and you have the third convergence at this point
convergence that a swap chorus but also does a pulsing area so you want to phase
is it? Exactly right. There's
this whole part as well when
that convergence ends, it almost
like kick starts the phase back
off again, where you get a new
set of all to get a new set of
ads. They happen immediately
after that convergence cast.
So we'll see how it all pans out.
I like how we're on perfect those
point of view to make sure what
he doesn't die immediately from
production. He survived.
Okay, he did fine. As we are
starting off once again, Echo
seemingly have cooked something up for our egg friend here and we'll see how it all does pan out
because it is a difficult old fight this one and we'll see if they have managed to really unlock
something or if that just happened to be a good pool. Yeah, let's see how this one goes.
So we are watching the tanks right now, they are doing the tank mechanics which are the cones,
they have to, the light tank has to be in the light soak and the void tank has to be in the void soak.
That's why Tiff just don't get back the bus here and then these are multiple soaks at the same time.
So you have the light one and the void one at the same time and they have to be standing in a proper one
in order for the bus not to enrich.
It's 100% a damage increase.
So basically that's why on top of that they are taking up the orbs as we could see,
soaking all the orbs because if one orbs touches the bus,
He does a pulsing air damage and pretty much kills people.
I don't think he wipes the entire red, but usually you have dead players here.
Oh yeah, I think if you're really on top of it and you're like all person old and had things to survive it is technically survivable, but it's effectively a wipe.
Exactly. And then on top of that you have all those phoenixes, you can see they are damaging them, they are turning into eggs, you have 15 seconds to kill them.
otherwise they revive and they just wipe you as well.
So another way to wipe here.
Yeah, a lot of ways, a lot of very quick ways
for you to die on this fight.
It's something that we've been seeing throughout Prague,
but as we are coming towards the end of phase one,
wanting to push this boss before the cast ends,
actually popping bloodlust in order to do so,
they'll still have a good chunk of this bloodlust
for this phase here.
It's not ideal.
They were a tiny bit behind on the damage check there.
We will be going into the egg phase
with everyone alive in a battle res available.
It's a lot of damage during this phase though, may seem incredibly low, hopefully a spot hill coming up for them soon.
And the damage is on the go.
30 seconds to do as much damage to our Egg of Beloran here.
And unfortunately Skarne going down, having a healer down during this point is going to be far from pleasant.
Yeah, we're resting him. But yeah, it's hard to rest him here because he has to wait for the pools then.
He just accepted the rest. You have to ribuff at the same time.
And we could see also the tanks' job here.
They are getting away in order to soak the wool orbs that are happening during that phase at the same time.
You also have to step on the Procola, but Charmy did fall down.
Unfortunately, we don't have a combat race anymore for two minutes.
Yeah, no, it's going to be pretty rough with a hunter, especially doing a lot of work,
but they can perhaps try some things out.
What are they doing?
We can kind of keep this calm for a second.
where I think they're just kind of doing stuff now I've got like okay Tommy said
let's try something out they've gone to an entirely new area of the room to
place those particular mechanics down I think it might be based on the
orientation of the orbs walls coming in they may very well have adjusted the
strat in order to fix that up but yeah peculiar pool from echo there
unfortunately the egg phase although mechanically not necessarily that
complicated it is still a bit of a challenge for people to be able to get
their way through but interesting nonetheless and this egg face is gonna be
even harder the second time we will see it because we are gonna be so every time
the boss goes back to phase one he increases reduces sorry the healing that
the the red is doing by 10% so there is a 10% healing reduction in the red and
this also applies to the second egg face and there is a lot of causing damage
here, on top of that you have to soak some orbs. It is being... the tanks are taking care of it but
it also does damage tanks so you also don't want to lose players here. So yeah we didn't see this
phase right now so far. I think we saw only one second egg phase, I think it was yesterday
with four healers and pretty much five players were still alive at this point.
Yeah, it was scuffed.
Two Phoenix's eggs were still there and were about to blow up the red, so it wasn't ideal.
But yeah, I wonder if the healers will manage to keep the red alive during that second
X-Face which is going to be really hard.
It is.
Especially without the bloodlust as well.
Yeah, that's a point.
point you might even see maybe a change of bloodlust perhaps to move it to that point
to help with the healing, something I was speaking about a little bit earlier. I guess
we'll find out what their plans are.
It's in a weird spot this boss at the moment, we still have, well we seemingly have a whole
new idea of how we want to be handling the orbs and the dive soaks in phase two so to
speak, the second birth phase. So some things happen, they've done a little cook, I'm not
entirely too sure what it's going to taste like because right now it's promising. I would say it
smells nice but I've yet to taste it. We'll have to see how it all pans out but I do believe that
once we are waiting to get into another pool we have received some wonderful donations.
Yes. That number looks like it has gone up. Indeed we got some of them. One that we got
yesterday from anonymous 36 dollars no message. Thank you very much. Yeah just dropping 36 dollars
was a 36 kids help so thank you so so much so much taco kisses $5.31 good
morning waiting for surgery now Jordan you managed to brighten my morning with
your energy Kaina you're doing a great job oh they did they did a wonderful job
during Jordan's and Kaina's shifts they are doing awesome yeah they really are
so much love especially to my heroic week gang although we also did have a
heroic week last week as well if you think about it but
as nice memes mentioned yeah he did two heroic weeks
just fun and we got an anonymous donation 10
dollars again go echo get the verb yeah but needs to go down thank you so so
much oh no you're gonna like this one
$5 from Razvan, who says production check, hfc
and i'm glad this one brought up L5.0 because i've been meaning to say um that uh
fine fine keep my words to myself we have 10 more dollars from eggs against the machine
I love it. No message. No message. Just a sick name. Like. Like. And voila. I didn't
even know why I used that accent. I didn't plan on it. It just happened. It was perfect.
Oh man. That's cursed. I realized I've just done a lot of cursed stuff for our generation
itself. Oh shit. All it is from the bread egg grape with a card in it like like amalgamation
that I made to this thing that's down here.
You don't have to show it back, you know that.
Dripping curses, they'll be making it weird.
Weirder than usual.
I'm sorry.
I'll do better.
It's fine.
Can't wait for your adventures.
Oh, wow.
You're going to have probably with stuff as well.
Yeah, I've got some plans.
I've been skiing.
Wonderful.
We have 10 more dollars from anonymous again.
Let's go Echo, I can feel the world first this season.
And I can say that because I'm sure
that donor cursing isn't a thing.
That's fair, that is fair.
It's not a thing.
I haven't ever seen a donation curse before.
But yeah, here's hoping that put themselves
in probably the strongest position
that we've seen them in a long time.
So fingers crossed.
Yeah, and right now, Liquid is sleeping, so yeah.
They could definitely kill the boss before they wake up.
Yeah, especially if this new strategy does pan out,
And it turns out to be something really really good then even if liquid works up wake up now
And they also wanted to take it there to have to kind of find out the buying details of that strategy and implemented themselves
If that's what they wanted to do of course, but yeah exciting stuff
Exciting indeed. We have a system. We got six minutes ago another nation and four point 69
Dollars and animals no message. They just wanted to do that to the donation two on three six nine six nine
for sure nice I I see no you can only send in minimum of $100 you can change
the three numbers at the front but 21,369 dollars we could get 69k that's all I'm
same. You had a champ but no that's an amazing amount absolutely fantastic thank
you so so much really really do appreciate all of the support of course
all going towards games for love let's say if you do want to get your own
don't someone's already ruined it good job the 69 cents is still there though
so it's a remnant but it's it's worth ruining your ruining has just helped
10 children so it's definitely worth thank you so so much it's a concerned
the gaming thank you so much after chickening out of the boats by your
bizarre has hatched and egg is silent and could encounter excellent the
chickening out my god excellent encounter I've been doing my very best
and thank you for the donation I would do my very best to keep the puns out of
here don't want to do puns on a bird boss it's just it's like you know it feels
feels cheap. Yeah. That's also the noise of little chick. Whatever. Is he just going around
him? He was just doing that cat form. He was just soaking all of that with cat form and
bark skin. Yeah, because you're quicker. Yeah, don't get me wrong. It was smart. I just
surprised that he was able to survive it. I thought the bare form would be quite a mandatory
part of that soaking procedure. I evidently not. I thought the two, yeah, that's really
Well, he managed. As we can see right now, we are taking care of the quills, so there is a feather that is targeting someone that has the opposite color, and you need someone that has the same color as the feather to block it from the person.
As we can see, Soda there is doing it for Fraggo, but he has to be further away, because he also splashes some damage around him. That's a mythic mechanic.
can see a circle around the player so you want to take care not to hit other players
otherwise this is gonna kill some people. Yeah and it's very very easy to kill people
in this you got the second and last adds in this phase that are spawning over on the wall
dealing a ton of damage to the people they're doing some sort of immune then diagram
shenanigans over there in order to survive it but it has been working out
relatively well so far and I honestly thought it'd be a much larger pain
point so I'm just getting in position it's more of the issue rather than the
actual soaking itself. But they are doing well with it, I would say, doing very, very well.
Also, the fact that they are using a line and plates really shows if there is no one around your circle.
I feel like this is some kind of mandatory fight where at their level they really need to see where the players are standing.
It's a beautiful transition. That's exactly when we want it to happen. The 145 mark as the boss is going to go up into the air.
So as the boss comes crashing down, we'll be around that 155.
There we go.
Gonna go in now.
Oh, where's, there we go.
A little bit.
It does rescue a little bit later, but that's okay.
That's okay.
Let's see how it goes.
As we were saying, the damage doesn't really matter
as long as we haven't seen the whole fight yet.
But it's still a good practice though.
We can see the tank taking care of the orbs.
No, we're right.
That was close, but we did lose a charming opportunity there.
Trying to rescue him probably after the end of the phase.
it's probably going to be safer if you want to practice phase one. This is going to be over
in about one second. We were just below 50% I believe. It wasn't the best percentage we've had
since we lost DPS here, but that's okay. Now we are going to be dealing with the crazy orbs.
One of them was really close of the boss, but we did manage to solve them before it reached us.
Yeah, absolutely. Here we go. We're going to do a round of soaking over here. Oh,
Oh, Maryse's job being stolen!
RUDELY by Soda!
How could you make the tanks' lives easier?
But they did manage to get that soak down.
We're also going to be getting... oh, look at this!
Maryse!
What a play!
So, yeah, he was soaking a feather and doing the cone at the same time,
but he got knocked back by the cone and he really quickly came back with his heroic leap
in order to soak the feather, because then it swaps...
The sucker went to another player for a second, and it was very scary.
Fortunately, Soda going down, but his turtle has been used.
I felt that too and especially now we were seeing the just before we wiped we were seeing the second convergence. That's where that's where we're going to be going through here.
So we're going to be going through here. Just a little bit of rock that going out into the group. It did feel probably for the first time in a long time that our healing was a little bit in this place.
I felt that too, and especially now we were seeing the, just before we wiped, we were seeing the second Convergence, that's when the bird is switching the colors, but also pulsing every damage.
And it seemed like a couple of players were around like 50% health, and that wasn't ideal because he's still seeing a ton of damage, so you want to have your red topped before this mechanic happens.
it happen so yeah they were a little bit behind on killing it seems like yeah it's uh odd because
they've been so on top of it up to this point so maybe a slight miscommunication or just maybe a
lack of resources i don't know there's a lot going on at that point um so it's incredibly good um
there's so much going on during that um element but it's unfortunately we did lose charmy during the
egg phase itself i think he did do a hero soak i think he was doing his best just to cover what
he thought was going to be a disastrous situation where an all might have hit the boss so he quickly
just went out and grabbed it even though it led to his death it's better than leading to everyone's
death um so it's a hero move it is yeah big hero play i mean a lot of hero plays are needed to get
this boss down there's so many individual sort of small elements that need to be kind of micromanaged
in order for the uh boss to be effectively um dismantled which we're hoping for over the course
of this but you guys just keep donating by the way look at this it just keeps going up thank you
Thank you very much. Thank you guys. That's incredible. Yeah, well have a little look at those.
Helping so many children. That's great. Thank you so much. Yeah. We got a $10 donation
from a dino who says thank you for the great entertainment while I was sick at home this week
and thanks for supporting a good cause. Oh, thank you very much. Hope you're feeling better as well now.
Yeah, I hope you're feeling better. I was also sick and I feel way better. But I didn't see it at the beginning
But we just got a huge donation right now.
Oh?
Yeah, we got a $500 from Stefan.
Whoa!
Crazy!
Thank you so much, Stefan.
And he said this boss is no yolk.
Thank you.
What does that mean?
Yoke is like a joke, but also yolk
is in the other part of the neck.
That's a yolk.
Oh, OK, so that's a really nice joke.
That's an excellent pun.
OK, I understand it now.
Thank you very much, Stefan.
in the chat very cut $500 that's
really really is so really really
appreciate gang it's always so humbling
being at these events and you guys are
just incredible always so thank you
thank you from the bottom of our hearts
it really does it looks like the players
are on a break for five minutes as they
are probably just you know refreshing
themselves I don't know if they're doing
anything comp wise probably just a
normal break because I mean the players they are playing for so long it's almost
like 15 hours a day which is yeah that has been going on for a long time now
this is like a third week if we are counting the heroic week we also got so
yeah you also need to I mean you are human beings right so you you need some
breaks at some point in order to refresh your brain and take a deep breath you
know so then you come back and you just lock in and kill the boss yeah 100% on
that one it's sorry production I can't hear what you said oh okay understood
yeah it's me being I don't know about you sometimes when production talks in my
ear I can really effectively keep speaking my way through it and be very
professional and other times production talks in my ear and I'm like huh what's
going on. Usually when I'm talking and they are they speak at the same time I am really it
distracts me and also I'm like what do they say? Sometimes I get it sometimes I go.
But as we are taking ourselves a little bit of a break and maybe you're worth having a little bit
of a look over into the player area and see by the AMD War Room you can see down the far end
right there of course the guy that isn't gone on break although quite a lot of the players
is sticking around you see it's right there behind his whole array his huge
amount of these x 27 you a suppressor monitors all ed indeed he has a ton of
spreadsheets but I've heard that apparently at some point he was having
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Yeah, it's true.
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Yeah, well, we are still on the break.
They are going to come back in about a minute or so.
And yeah, for Tosfer, Justin and Echo did some splits this morning.
They went into a voice by ear split, a quick voice by ear split,
like four bosses to gear teeth, droods.
And also they geared a little bit Swag's Hunter,
although he is still not on BattleRent.
That could be for Lura or later on Beloran Prague, who knows.
And then they went back after lunch doing more Beloran Prague.
And right now we are trying to go through the second phase one of the fights
and making some changes.
They swapped sides.
They are now starting around the back and the room.
So they are like playing in another position during the second phase one, it seems.
Yeah, it's seemingly giving them a lot more time in Phase 2.
They still have to deal with the same amount of mechanics,
but beforehand we were dealing with them all on top of each other at the same point.
And it seems like the room positioning has done them a lot of good by moving this around.
It just seems there's certain areas of the room without really analyzing and seeing like a bird's eye view.
It's very difficult to really kind of see.
But largely speaking, it seems that they have a easier side of the room and a harder side of the room.
room and they need to use both of those spaces so they're using that harder side of the room
earlier on and then when they actually get to the harder second egg phase, second bird phase
excuse me that the boss has additional orbs going around and all those sorts of things they have
got that little bit more space and a little bit more time in order to deal with those mechanics
and it seems to be paying off but we have still you know it's paying off but we are still wiping
to little bits and pieces there's a few little cleanups that we need to do but we're very early
we've only been doing this new strategy for what three pools and you can see that they're putting
They have to of course be more consistent.
Oh, Velo Monk.
Velo Monk did use his Ventus here.
So we are going to be stronger when it comes to healing.
I wonder if he's got a couple of monks and that's why he's done it.
Because he's got two monks at basically the same item level.
So he can use, if we do want to use a Vantus on the next boss
and we want him to be in on his misweaver,
then of course normally you wouldn't be able to do that just for the folks at home maybe haven't used
Vantus runes before unaware of how they work there are once a week buff you basically choose a boss
and you say okay bellaren I'm gonna do 5% more damage to you and you're gonna do 2.5% less damage to me
give or take but then say you kill that boss and you go to midnight falls you cannot transfer over
until the next reset so if you send your Vantus on this boss sure you have an easier time here but
midnight falls may be so difficult that you are kind of shooting yourself in the foot by using that
I believe this is going to be harder than Beroran, finger crossed, this is not a Gallywix,
can we quickly check production on nice memes?
No, okay, he didn't want this, or no, that's fine, okay.
When I was checking, I was like, oh, nice memes, I also used it, but no, okay.
I was mistaken, sorry.
No problems, no, that's worth looking at.
looking at the problem is is that the evoker buff looks very similar to the vanquish buff so i've
tripped myself many times with that as well um but yeah the break is over we're just waiting for i
think we seem to pop back in into the group but i think there's a couple of people that are away
for a little bit of yapping as well yeah a little bit because uh usually when there are uh when there
is a five minute break this is for the players but usually he's cracking in his cooking area where
We saw him, yeah.
He's going to cook stuff and maybe you come back
five minutes later and he's like,
oh, we're going to do this now.
So there's just more explanation before pulling.
Yeah, it's, yeah, I imagine,
especially when they're part of a new strap,
unlikely there's going to be perfect straight away.
You know, there'll be small refinements
and improvements that we need to do.
We've seen so little of this new strap
that I can't really explain what it is.
We know it's different,
but in terms of the actual benefits of it,
it's still a little bit to see.
We can see there's a little bit more time given to them,
in terms of where they're going to be placing all of the puddles and stuff we did even see variations on one of our pools
I don't know if that was because they were trolling or not
It's hard to say. It feels like it looks easier at least for the two players that have to place the air we
The air we void the void area and the light area. Yeah, there's like they have more room
to place themselves quicker quicker and
I don't know for the other mechanics if it changes anything
Yeah, it just seems like the orbs are a bit more chill over there. I don't know why.
It did seem like they had just more time.
It's because we weren't dealing with the dives and the orbs at exactly the same moment.
It just felt like we had a little bit more space.
I don't know, it could just be a whole thing in my head where maybe it isn't true.
We'll probably see it again. We hope to see it again, Miss Paul.
So you were saying that there are more, a new type of orb during the second phase one,
which are the orbs that are collapsing.
like in a circle and like reaching like a central point of the room. Do you think that
it's usually where the boss is or is it like random in the room? It seems to always be
centered on the boss, but it doesn't follow the boss importantly. So it like takes almost
a snapshot. When it's points, usually you would move the boss. Yeah, you can see that
they have tried to do that. They've also tried to just keep the boss in the middle and have
people just quickly run around and soak them all. So it's something that they have been
playing about with in terms of their strategy I think ideally you would drag
the boss through and move him but like it's it's you don't have been moving the
boss too much because you're already in a nice spot I don't know. And sometimes you
just can't move the boss because he's doing the frontal mechanic. Yeah you can't
move the boss in the tank bus, the boss stands still so you're kind of out of
luck there and it makes it even more difficult to soak because you don't want
to be hit by those frontal hits but here we go we can see that the whole raid is
now in. The ready check has been successful. We are hoping to go through there. Yeah, I
can't see Avantus on the, it was just brought up by production. I can't see Avantus in their
frames. Can we have a look at Merus real quick? It's gone.
By what?
What?
Right. What it could have been is that it could have been Avantus for a different boss.
They may have used it on midnight falls perhaps, but why didn't they as we pulled the night falls?
That's weird. You could have just right clicked it off. Uh, that works.
No, that doesn't work.
And that might have been a ghost. Maybe a UI bug, I don't know. Clearly so, it don't
bellow and now it's not there anymore. So something suspicious. What are you up to?
All right, but we are in a pool. One more pool here as the the boss is giving 10 lights debuffs
to players and a 10-void debuffs to the other ones.
Mirrors is using her Eclipse in order to clear the path for the two players that are being
targeted by the area.
So, human players such as Soda, sorry, the bus enraged, unfortunately, while I was talking
about the...
I was just watching the hunters clearing all of the orbs around there using...
I'm not entirely too sure what it is, but they get a giant burst of movement speed whenever
using the disengager to allow them to clear a huge amount of all to their immunity.
Yeah and you also have your cheetah that you can use on top of it that gives you I
believe it's 70% of the move speed doing something like 6 seconds which is a really
good story.
Yeah it's peculiar, I'm not too sure how exactly they're doing their movement.
Have we got a hunter we can follow?
We've got a hunter pov?
I'm not sure if we do.
Yeah, that is not by design by the way gang. It's just that we don't even have a hunter here at the venue
The end hunter we do have of course is Roger Brown and Roger Brown. It's full on the bench
It's too strong. We could potentially be watching a hunter POV and just put like a Roger Brown
To present his Roger Brown playing
Well, you can see that they're talking about Vantas Rhodes
He's hovering over it. I bet they're talking about Vance's roots.
Yeah, I mean at some point, because it's like you want to keep all the Vences, but also you don't want to spend too much time on this boss, because then you have to proc Lura.
But also you want your comp to be as strong as possible on Lura, so you don't want to send the Vences.
It's like
Dilemma where you have to make the right the right choice at some point you just can't be okay guys
We are stuck on this bus for like the entire week. That doesn't work perfecto. Send one
Can we get a perfecto's point of view if it's see if it's actually a ghost one or not perfecto said what you can see
You can see in the top right. Okay. I heard the perfecto has two very good characters. I was waiting for that to happen
Spends head one for a while
I believe so. Smeb has been in the team for a long time.
So it's Frago and Genji as well, because they also have other choices when it comes to their classes.
Genji has also another really really strong mage. So it's Frago with his Ebonco.
Yeah, so considering it's basically, you know, they're the equal level of strength, you're just going to vantus on one, swap over, and then vantus mid-nigh falls on the other.
that's the reason why we're seeing those changes gang but so far so good we'll see how it goes out
obviously we had an immediate wipe last time we was in this phase they didn't manage to make it
out of phase one it just goes to show how delicate and fragile this encounter is but
do need to rise to the challenge that they will be having their competition of course with liquid
they will be waking up within the next four or five hours or so and what would be best for echo is that this boss is already dead
and they can be already surging ahead.
We do lose theory though unfortunately but we have a combat phase we can we we can use before getting into this
first egg phase. We are have our dealing with the convergence here, pulsing damage. We vote with one of the healers on the floor.
It was not the best but we did manage now taking care of those
second debuffs as we can see we have
Gurb using the ice block in the middle
in order to soak them they are
overlapping a little bit so the
Mexican immune both of them at the
same time. Yeah it's not nice that that
can be targeted on healers I must
admit I think the healers already got
enough to do about to place the goo on
the outside of the room but there we go
not the end of the world as we are
going to be getting us through these
last set of orbs that are rushing
towards the boss we've also got two eggs
underneath that also need to die a lot
of confusion going on there. The voidob still needs to be taken, we can't let them hit the
boss if they do. We are going to wipe, unfortunately Stove going down. Yeah, it was really hard
because you had the conventions at the same time happening and you as a DPS, you can maybe soak one
orb if it's really scary, but also you have the pulsing damage at the same time. It can clearly
kill you during that moment and we did lose so from it unfortunately so one of
the shaman that does a lot of damage to the egg so we won't have this damage here
and we will deal with the entire phase of the second phase one we
about one of our DPS which is not the best but we can still make a good progress
from it so let's not wipe and as we can see the boss the egg is gonna be near a
50% ish. Yeah, that's still good though considering that we were missing
Highest damage units as well. You're entirely right and really although new best percentages on eggs are always fun
I mean is a
Time in the phase that we're really looking forward to really ideally and it's looking less and less likely as we're going on here
We are ideally going to be seeing that second egg with a lot of players alive. That's really what we're after
unfortunately nice means dying towards the beginning of this phase as well is
not going to be able to be caught up in teeth going down. Yeah that is all that
the boss wrote in this sense that we are not going to be getting much further
than this as you can see that the ads are all over the place players are
dropping down one by one it is rather unfortunate in that regard but as they
are coming towards the end of a wipe here we do indeed have ourselves we're
gonna be joined by a very wonderful person as we're gonna be joined by the
wonderful JB momentarily I do believe so whilst we're sorting out that cast to
swap we're gonna go for a very short break stretch our legs and get ready for
more prog don't go anywhere this but you can just kind of randomly die it's weird
back in a sec
is ideally that the tank at the start of the space that's soft as it matters
close even this bit checking how much he's soaking
because him and me are kind of munching on the same ones initially yeah yeah
coming out
I'm not sure, but I'm sure.
Well, I couldn't talk to him, but I was very scared that the plot is so into Warp, so I'm not sure.
Yeah, you do get PS 12 a lot of times, yeah.
And I have a question.
If I get hit because I'm black, like a purple, but if I get hit by the yellow frontal while
while in third way. Yeah, it's a bit monka shake. Yeah. Um, straight up, by the way.
But the north front, will you skip all here, maybe if you do it late? No. They're converging.
I guess Charmy have this actually. Charmy actually have this, yeah.
Cause then what I wanted to do, and that would be big, is if the tanks just take like, like, gear till here, right?
And the rest Charmy can handle, sorta can take all of these.
Yes, I can do a fucking straight line, like crazy, you know.
So I would say tanks get like this onwards as much as you can ideally faster
So you can do all but if you don't do all Charlie might be able to do it. It's all it's all if I'm not back
There will be
Good things to this
Range chaser watch out a little from the middle because you have to start from around and the ones
Talking here has to reduce trust the guy that he will clear it for you
Yes, it's close
this is a bit wild can we maybe position this here maybe position this here
a little bit tightening up but
boongi mingha uh yeah the down yeah not up yeah yeah don't yeah further away from the ball
roll right uh yes force some mid like there was an entrance
So the hunter can actually do what he's saying, this is a mode to change the color a little bit for the boss goals.
Yeah, we're fine.
We're in the front of the moon.
I mean, I think so.
I mean, you can check in a sec, but I guess like they will have landed anyways, right?
right so they can go back to their old spot even right like they will have land
let's say they landed here just now you can go and continue like they shouldn't
get hit so they could go I mean not this wall probably because it's a bit too
risky maybe but they can go like here and here because they will have landed
already will be over right attack them back in maybe maybe we move them for no
reason. The hunter just needs to play tight. Yeah, our turtle is a bit tight. I mean we're gonna end the turtle inside the circles. I don't know if it matters. No, the circle will have... Oh, you mean, oh yeah. No, he has three seconds left. And he can pop it later, right? I'm not sure he can pop it later. Maybe a little bit of time. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I can rate some of it.
Look, he popped it here, he can just start clearing here.
If he would start from 1.5 seconds later, 2 seconds later.
You could put a mark on this spike here, for the hunters to orientate, that would be nice
I think.
Like when they come here, you go.
Also by the way, we keep getting the same fucking pattern, I don't know.
The other one should be much easier, we never got it.
That's good, then it's easier.
Hopefully.
Hopefully, we're min-maxing this one a bit crazy now.
Okay, hunters, you start on circle, yeah?
And the moon now is where,
between blue and the wall,
place, yeah, there.
I mean, here, what?
On, there's a G, there's a, yeah.
Yeah, so, yeah, so it's fine.
Oh, moon here now, yeah?
Yeah.
Then the blue up here.
Blue up here, yeah, exactly.
And then we go towards the sky with the balls, you know.
We're aiming up the front balls, in this case it's the last thing.
No, I think we should aim the front balls towards where we want.
And this is the dead end, that's by then.
So we break through the wall and then...
We bring into the wall.
Yeah, no one else is going to be there.
And tanks, you're just taking these balls until the wall, ideally.
Yeah, of course.
Kind of from Skull, right, or like orange line.
Did we talk about what the raid stands for though?
I don't know, we did, no?
The new permissions?
Yeah, I have it in the picture, it says R.
But I mean, now it will move a little bit down.
Like that R should be where the moon is happening.
So you want to be like left of the dimes, ideally.
Like a little bit.
The green skull and the circle right now, a little bit more ahead.
A little bit more ahead I would say.
And what about the other formation?
Same thing there, you want to be ahead of them?
Like so, it would be further down.
After we can split the top.
Yeah, exactly.
Let's get it guys.
Smoked the fried egg
We're eating chicken
Imagine like Phoenix would be low key the most golden things you just keep eating it, but it keeps resurrecting bro
who want to lie at me?
ok ok ok focus first
drop then who is coming
push the quills
you gave us the gun with off their spoon
uuh ok
i mean you can't do anything but more dark words from the corner
quills interrupts again
avoid inside the boss
watch it
last quills and avoid protecting us from the right
on the right, push the void pool in front of us almost, the frontal then after stove
it might come soon, void protecting us
push this one
okay
they are both emitting or not?
No, I was not supposed to, I was just kidding.
Oh, okay.
It's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
We don't need to, that was extra.
Egg, who's in interrupts again.
Watch it.
Close to the boss.
Danger, danger, f**k, I got it.
And it's out of there.
Last quills.
Finishing off the eggs.
Stop on the monster's eggs.
I can watch that light guys protect us now light guys protect us hitting the boss still
Don't need to drag that much out hitting the boss as well
Drag off scared me but no no, it's not a vagabond. That was a good enough to a little bit too many times
Watch out missing and cheat that anyway, that's fine. We're chilling
Looks coming up soon after the planks.
We're doing the other pattern after that guys.
Of course green later again.
There is a diamond marker there when you go there.
Two more ticks, maybe.
Last tick.
And orient it towards green.
And we're lagging there, voids to the wall at diamond.
The range is double view forward towards the entrance right now towards Greenish.
Boy to the wall at Diamond.
Look at this black bag.
It cancels you on the other side.
Boy to the wall, guys. You have to flip it.
It's a clear light.
We need to go towards the left side.
Yeah, yeah.
So don't take this one, your west.
By the way, yeah, it'll be up to you.
It's just base 1, yeah.
Oh, yeah, I guess.
This is the easy one, guys.
Yeah, it's just even the...
I don't think that was easy, bro.
Remember, void to the wall, yeah?
And you...
Never left, right?
Yeah, you place the void here, light here.
Like, think of, like, touching the wall always with your hand.
Yeah, like with what's middle?
Like, when you play, uh, when you're kids and you touch the wall, yeah?
And...
Uh-huh.
Think you're the only one that has kids in the...
That's a totally different game.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the race to world first for season one of midnight advanced by AMD
I am Alex from VapoCV joining me and Cruella. Of course is JB. How's it going dude?
I'm very confused
So tell us as someone who has kids themselves, what is the hand on the wall game? Yeah, that's a great question
a rousing game of touch the wall which is apparently a thing yeah that
entertains children oh we touched the wall
is it when we are looking at the wall and people can like move and go back they
have to like a freezing place you might be right well I can't remember what
that's cool what's that called in UK playgrounds production I can't remember
It's cool. Yeah, I can't remember as well. I can't remember the name of that game that you'd play
It's like red like green light in a way
Well, you know, it's it. Yeah bulldog as well. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, there's loads of them
Individually, what's the time mr. Wolf? That's true. I can't tell when the British are just taking the piss
What's the time mr. Wolf? No, well, I got a fun segment for you, dude
What we're gonna do is we're gonna go out and it's great. It's a great game
And just touch the wall okay, everyone says what's the time mr. Wolf and the person the far end will go
It's three o'clock, and then everyone goes one two three and they quickly turns it
I still can't tell it's true
It's all good you've had a lot of pop ladies before haven't you right, okay?
as we're going into another pool.
Pool number 124 Echo.
It is a fight that we have had a lot of discussions about in the classroom as to its feasibility.
Yeah.
And obviously, super difficult.
You're very much, Mr. JB, on this fight, needs some love and attention.
Luckily, the voice of reason is taking the couch.
And I'm here to tell everybody that we will not be killing this boss today.
Liquid will not be killing this boss today.
And it will be getting nerfed tomorrow is how this is going to play out
Everybody disagrees with this that I've spoken to the players are all very confident it will die today every
Caster is very confident it will die today. I am seeing a boss fight that is making very slow progress and
The kind of progress that I don't think Blizzard is content to just kind of let take its
Normal course at this point in the race
Bellaryn was a very, it did what it needed to do, staunch the bleeding. We had a race that was quickly getting away from us. It was going to go down as a meme and Blizzard, I think, very reasonably bumped this boss up to the point where it was borderline, maybe entirely unkillable.
unkillable we'll see how the second egg goes but this boss made sure that this
race did not end with a whimper and so for that Bellarine I salute you but you
are a bit too crazy and I don't think that this version of the boss is going
to exist for more than another like maybe 24 hours before it gets nerfed I
I mean we're gonna see but if at least one of the resurfaced girls managed to kill it then it means the devs will
Obviously not nerf it
It would be pure pain if echo get this down or a liquid get it down and the other one is forced to go through it as well
It's GG. Good luck to the others
Big time. Yeah, this this fight is looking to be
One that's gonna go down as you know in the history books of difficulty
I don't know actually in terms of overall pools we came to the point they've got this whole idea of this new strategy right in Phase 2
Which is where we're struggling the most where we're getting to
the
Second time that we're in the bird form and we're heading over towards the entrance of the room where we've previously been starting the fight
They have got a new idea that hasn't fully come to fruition
But we did see a version of it where they did execute it somewhat correctly and it felt so much better
It felt like there was a lot less chaos. It was still quite a lot
There was a lot less chaos and it felt like the groups were able to handle it as you can see there
They're placing the two puddles on the left hand side of your screen as the tanks need to now take the tank bus
So and deal with the overall barrage of incoming damage there
It is something that does seem to be an improvement whether or not it is sufficient for us
Like it's enough even to get through the boss entirely is going to be well something to find there
unfortunately just a little bit of a clip on the soak going through from Gabba
unfortunately I'm not sure who it was there but they were just a little bit
too close and ended up taking a big burst of damage and going down but this is
the farthest that we've seen with this many players alive this damage on the
group that was so heavy especially with the 10% healing reduction yeah the
second convergence here is doing so much damage and as we were saying the
heroes are a little bit like late with healing and like everyone is not
top so we are constantly losing people here as we can see the what happened here with
gub i think he soaked because he thought someone wasn't going to be there on time i think there's
a panic so he wasn't supposed to be there yeah at least or he least didn't have his resources
that he needed to in order to actually deal with that these circle orbs here the last set of circle
orbs this is a incredibly cruel and unusual if the tanks are able to survive this and the group
is able to keep the orbs away from the boss this is looking to be a new best time wise with this
many people are alive since we have changed our comp. We haven't seen as far as this with
three healers alive but yeah that's not enough. The third convergence and also the I mean the egg is
HP you you could see the phoenixes because you have so many players on the floor you don't have
enough damage to like like kill the egg before the phoenix comes back and wipes the red so even
without the convergence it would have been a wipe anyway. We saw that though the boss was at four
minutes in if we did transition there if that is the goal I'm not actually too
sure if it is we might have to do an entire extra set so we have to do three
sets of ads in the second time with the bird right if that is the case we're
still looking at a maximum of a six minute fight for this if we're gonna be
doubling it egging it which they are doing because they feel that they got
the damage for and I have faith that if they didn't they got the damage for it
then you know they're gonna find it and they're gonna be able to do it but man
Man, that is no joke. That is such a difficult phase there.
You're saying it was, yeah, four minutes?
Four minutes, 13, I think, is when they wiped there, yeah.
Which is fine, no?
Yeah, I'm just saying it's just such a short phase.
Yeah, they have to, I believe they have to face the boss
basically at the time that they worked here.
Yes.
Yeah, so they need everyone to be alive in order to meet the DPS of the phase one, I guess.
We had players on the floor since the beginning. I believe that one of the shaman was dead for a long time Charmy as well
So yeah, we could actually like see
Like how much GPS we were miss we were missing. Yeah, absolutely. It's a great claim. See I think
We as viewers of the race will first get so comfortable with this idea that
The guilds will eventually like figure it out. They're like, they'll they'll
There's so much like sort of hand-waving is like well, look all this is
Going catastrophically wrong right now, but like they'll they'll figure that part of it out and then and then we're home free and it's like
I'm not so sure. This is an incredibly chaotic fight incredibly chaotic. It's not a fight you can map out
It's not a fight where everyone has clean responsibilities and
defined positions, it's a fight where there's a lot of making plays constantly, like people
have to just be on the lookout and what they do from pull to pull will change.
That introduces the human element, which is a raid leader's worst nightmare.
That is exactly what they're trying to remove from every raid plan they've ever made, which
is asking their players to make a play.
They want to make a strategy where you have to make zero plays.
You just do what they tell you to do, and you press the buttons that do damage or healing,
and then you follow the script.
And there is no script for this fight.
There is simply reacting.
And when a fight involves just reacting, mathematically, it's going to lead to someone
dying a lot.
And so now you're just playing a numbers game where like, we're going to have to pull this
boss I don't know hundreds of times before we just get that magical pull
where everyone does the correct thing and nobody dies and is it possible that
the boss could be killed like that maybe I don't know like I said I still need to
see the second egg damage before I even believe that like a two-leg strategy is
viable but there's no way that I think Blizzard leaves this boss on nerf long
enough for us to find that pull well when it comes down to something if they
are gonna know if it let's assume that it does need enough it looks really bad
but let's assume that it does need enough the nerve timing for that it's not
that they need to take into account to make sure it's kind of fair for both
kids right so what that number is normally echo behind when enough comes
in or at least head to head echo ahead so I don't really know what that it
baffles my mind I don't even know how to approach the subject in a way in terms of
what would be a good timing for everyone involved but I imagine it'll be more
towards the start of liquidity, perhaps, I don't know.
Yeah, end of afternoon for EU.
It's generally when they do come in.
Yeah, and then the US have the whole day to work on it.
Whoa, he's gatewaying it.
That's how that works.
Finally get to see it.
Crazy.
So yeah, you could see right now
that one of the hundreds was using total and then