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Hello, everybody, hello, hello, hello, and welcome to ClassicHast Season 2 Episode 2.
This is going to be a great episode today, we're very excited, I'm here with Guzu and
on P our co hosts and we have tips out joining us one of my old co hosts for season one of
classic S. So yeah, we're super, super excited. How are you guys feeling?
Good.
Really good, man. Excited to have tips here as well. That's awesome.
Yeah. No, I think I think it's going to be a good one here too. Appreciate you guys having me on.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, things have been pretty crazy. I mean, we've been playing the beta for a week now
and uh...
i mean everybody's been
diving super super deep into it
uh... i've been streaming all day every day
boozies been streaming all day every day
opi has been
you know concocting a master plan is that it's not a lot of stream but i don't
know what's okay and master plans off stream
and then uh... tips has been uh... you've been running around like a chicken with
your head cut off
doing everything you're trying to play the game you're trying to
you're trying to go to work you're trying to be the kids
I'm surviving, barely hanging by a thread as always,
but we're getting through it.
Yeah.
So, so, uh, Tim's real quick,
tell us a little bit about, uh, where you've been.
Cause a lot of people ask, like, uh,
what, what has tips been up to?
Cause those of you guys who don't know tips basically, um,
retired from being a streamer, uh, maybe what six years ago,
how many years ago was that one? Yeah.
Yeah. So about six years ago.
About six years ago.
So, uh,
Tim's retired from being a streamer and has been working,
doing mostly industry stuff,
but do you want to tell him a little bit
about what's been going on in the last few years?
Yeah, for sure.
So about six years ago,
I got really mentally invested in the probability
that the earth is likely flat.
And so I've spent most of my time traveling to the Arctic,
just taking measurements, digging potholes,
you know, and really just coming to the conclusion that it's all lie. I mean, the earth is flat and
you know, it's
I'm going down every rabbit hole possible. So
I'm doing and they're lying to you and don't trust the government. So here's my question is how
How'd you get there? Do you sail? I?
sailed and
Once you go far enough people don't know this but once you go far enough
of, it actually, you can kind of see the drop off on the horizon.
So it's like a zone wall like in the corner of Azeroth.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's like invisible.
You try to, you know, you kind of try to move towards it and it kind of like pushes
you, you know, like when you're on a Griffin or something like, like, try to push you towards
you and the other side.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's how it is in real life too.
Wow.
Okay.
We'll get to know.
I think like, I think there's a lot that everybody can learn there.
But slightly less importantly, what do you guys think about the beta so far?
Azeroth is also flat.
By the way, I was joking guys, I'm not a flat earthed guy.
Dude, the game's pretty good.
What do you guys, I think they knocked that out of the park.
I mean, obviously, you know, it's not 100% perfect, nothing is.
But to think like we were talking before this call, like to go back what nine or 10 years
ago when they first announced classic wow to see where we are I mean I think it's
pretty incredible but what do you guys think I mean yeah it feels surreal like
I think especially something that I really knocked out of the park we spoke
about this a lot as well as on the different streams and YouTube videos
about the environment and it is literally like exploring vanilla all over again
my overall impressions on pretty much most things is fantastic like almost
everything is super faithful to what it was. I have a few issues with my with
some things for myself here and there but we'll probably get into that a little
bit later but so far it's incredibly amazing. Yeah I've been really enjoying
it. I will say my one big complaint about it so far it's dark man I've been
playing at night. Yeah. And it is so dark dude. I can't say I have to turn my shadows off every time I play.
It is so dark, it's crazy.
Dude, I love it, no.
It's so like, I love the contrast converted before.
It's like, man.
It's really bad because I'm from EU
and the beta server is based on NA.
So whenever I play, I play like 11 AM EU time.
So it's like full night time the whole day when I play.
And I just can't see anything.
Yeah, it's very cool.
It's very immersive.
I mean, it feels very Warcraft-y, you know?
And it's one of the things that you didn't really realize before, I think, it's, it's not something that you kind of like took it for granted.
Or I think we're going to have taken it for granted. It's the wrong phrase, but
when, when you play WoW and it's like, oh, the world is great. This is so cool. I love vanilla, classic, yada, yada, yada.
But then now we see it in the current lighting and it's like, oh man, like this is, this is more correct.
It's really cool when you're like, you're on a rhythm and you're flying through burning steps.
So like you go to the River Glades and the God rays coming in and the sunrise, even going
to Duskwood with like a torch at night time is so immersive.
So that they nailed that 100%.
I feel like they need a little bit of like light sort of like an old squad.
Most of you would have like a light source in your bag or something or like a light source.
Yeah.
I've carried with you.
That's not a weapon.
Yeah.
That maybe could help with that as well.
I think that would be really interesting.
I think so too.
I went to Westphal and did that quest for the lighthouse where you get the torch or a run
around with that. But also speaking of this is a little bit of like some I guess some news as well
that's happening. Did you guys see the weather updates that they did? Yes. Yes. Man. You can
that when you're inside a house and you hear the rain as if you're in it. Oh, that's so cool.
Dude, I feel like they have absolutely knocked it out of the park with taking the old look,
the old art style. And obviously there's like, there's a few rough edges here. But the vision,
I think is something that, at least to me, was completely unimaginable. I never would have thought
of them doing something like this, being able to take new tech, new lighting, new audio, everything,
and then apply it to textures and stuff from 20 years ago and have it be any good. But it's like,
no way, dude, this is insane. It's so good now. The water, dude. I'm so surprised at how they
they did the water. I think the splash sound could use a little adjusting, but yeah, little
by the way. Yeah, but just like how they did the water. I mean, frankly, like they should
just port that to like every version of the game. It's so pretty. It's amazing. Yeah,
there is like a handful of random sounds talking about the rough edges. I don't know why. Have
you heard the human death noise? Yes, I hate it. Dude, absolutely. Yes, they go like, oh,
You just spin, just spin, just spin.
Got you, you're gonna sit there the whole time.
Yeah, I do.
Go to the Defias, go to the Defias in Northshire,
and people are just killing Defias nonstop.
It's so bad.
Oh man.
That's where I noticed it as well.
I do not like that.
Yeah, it's pretty wild.
I don't know why they changed it.
I don't know why they changed the water.
Those are the two main sound effects that I noticed.
I haven't noticed anything else,
but it almost makes me feel like it had to be an accident.
Cause like why would they do it?
It feels weird.
I don't know.
There is a few more sound effects that are different.
Like they've added like a spin of sound effects.
They've added a lot more ambience,
which I think is great.
The critters actually have new sounds as well.
Not when you kill them or whatever,
but whenever you click on them,
the critters say different things.
Oh, that's funny.
Sound design that's different.
Yeah, that's funny.
Yeah, I know.
It's definitely cool to see like how they've kind of like
progress the little things and not, like not really taken away from it, but it's
it's just like a straight universal like ad. But there are like a couple little
little things that they gotta, they gotta work on for sure.
Definitely. Yeah, and hopefully, well, there's, there's supposed to be a patch today.
Kyvex, Kyvex posted about a patch coming September 24th. So we're all kind of
hoping that there's a number of things. I mean, some of this stuff is actually a
a little bit less important to me
than talking about class design, class balance,
and all that, but we can kind of,
we can get into that in a little bit.
So is there anything that you guys,
is there anything that really stands out,
things that you don't like after a year,
or a year, a week?
A week.
A week.
A week.
A week.
A week.
I mean,
There's like a lot of retail conveniences
that I think they should have added to the game
that they haven't added.
It's really sad to see.
And I just, I mean, all the QOL from retail,
they should just port it directly.
Dungeon Finder, the whole, yeah, the whole,
I knew it.
Yeah, I love, I'm surprised we don't have LFR.
Well, like I guys,
20% of chat thinks you guys are serious right now.
Dude, okay, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
There's an old thing we used to say like years ago,
we're like guys, no joking in the wild section, okay?
You're not allowed to tell jokes in the wild section.
Just for whatever reason,
there's like a social IQ there that is not up to par.
Did you guys see Echo?
Actually hold on, let's dial it back.
Let's talk a little bit about like,
what's going on around.
Echo posted this tweet that was obvious bait,
was super funny, and like, people were mad.
People were so mad about this.
And they were like, oh yeah,
they should add flying mounts and this,
Just a bunch of random stuff, like obvious, obvious bit,
the most obvious bit in the world.
But people are mad and it's like, bro,
what is wrong with you guys?
I think right now is a very dangerous place
to tread on the social media
because I have seen a lot of arguments
and people being very, what is it called?
Out there, on those things, so.
Yeah, for sure.
But I'd like to answer your question seriously,
things that I think could be improved.
I think in no particular order,
you know, the whole too many blues too early conversation,
I think there's some merit there.
You know, we talked a little bit before the call.
I think Ompie really hit the nail on the head.
He's talking about how kind of undermines
that incremental progression a little bit.
Like instead of going from like gray to white to green to blue,
you kind of just go straight from like white to blue.
And I think the blue gear being so optimized as well,
kind of like calls into question,
like, am I just going to be like using this gear
to like level mid 30s or something like that.
And yeah, I think, you know, my personal suggestion is
if they're gonna do all blues and dungeons,
you either have to deoptimize some of that gear.
So like the strength stand gear,
the strength stand male gear should probably have like
spirit on it instead of strength or instead of spam
and just make a little bit, you know,
kind of more vanilla-y that way.
Or it's okay to admit that you were wrong
or admit that maybe there's another way to do it
and bring back the greens and maybe have the blues be slightly rare drops on the bosses.
But the greens can be optimized, whichever way they take it, there's a lot of different
ways to solve this problem.
But I do think it's a little bit of a problem.
And yeah, you could say it only affects like the first 20 levels, because by that point
you start getting more optimized in your dungeons, but I do think that was a problem for sure.
I do agree that I think that the early game, I mean right now we've only done 1-20 for
but the early game itemization does feel very crazy where you basically do your starting zone,
as you said, you go into a dungeon and then now you get just a bunch of blues all over the place.
And some of the blue items or like some of the items that you get, I wouldn't even be opposed to
if they just were green. So at least you could get a little bit of that feel of itemization of
like progressing from the, you know, the white to the green to the blue, because they're just
is very abundant just across the board. I guess that's also that's one of the big complaints.
I mean, something that's been very, very hot topic lately has been a lot of the different
models and the different assets that are in the game that we have a bunch of vanilla
coated assets that are based on the vanilla stuff. And then we have a lot of modern assets
that are kind of, I guess, mixing up in the game. And it's, it's, it's a bit strange where
you don't really know where you want to go with it. We're going to have a lot of differing
assets within the game as well. That's also something that I've discussed a lot on my
channel and on my stream on YouTube as well. But obviously, a lot of the things about the
class design, we could maybe touch base on a few of those things, but we can talk a little
bit about this first, I guess. But I don't know how you feel about the general itemization
and dungeons and the blue items and just early level stuff, Andy.
Yeah, I mean, I think that there's it's just too much. Like I think, you know, you go into
Hall of Thanes and you get four blue item quest rewards, and then the bosses drop an
additional four depending on who gets them. You can walk away with like five blue items,
your first dungeon level 14, you've been playing for, let's call it four hours, and you have
like four.
So 10 hours, 10 hours, 10 hours, 10 hours, 10 hours, ampie.
So a little 15, four, ampie.
Eight hours.
Okay, this isn't, we're not talking about,
we're not talking about ampie speed leveling,
we're not talking about ampie leveling with his eyes closed.
Okay, we're talking about the average player.
Eight hours, even for eight hours,
for a little 15 for the average player, okay?
Pretend like, pretend as.
Okay, I think that's not too crazy.
Like eight to 10 hours, like a little 15,
I don't think it's that crazy.
Eight and a half, eight and a half.
probably. But I think it's just it's just a lot like and then you go into your next dungeon and you get you get different slots and you get three more blues and then your character has eight blues and you've just done two dungeons like the amount of gear you get like to set that expectation going forward like if you look at that what does that look like at like level 50 level 60 that means you're like getting like you're hitting level 60 and you're instantly like geared out I think that's also a problem like.
Looking at it fundamentally, being able to do two dungeon runs and get like pretty geared out
just from those two runs, you spend like call it like two hours total in dungeons and you're like
I'm chilling. I think it's just I think that I like the XP reward and the benefit of doing quests
to get guaranteed items. I just think maybe it should be like keystone items only like give
give them a wand, a weapon, give them a shoulder early,
something like school.
Something like Bomb Biter and Scarlet Monastery.
Right.
We also discussed a little bit before we went live
that unfortunately it also kind of does devalue
a lot of the quest rewards you get
because you go do a Hall of Thames,
there's like what, four quest rewards,
that's like all blues, and then you go out
and do just quest in the open world,
and then none of the stuff that you really get matters
when you're questing or leveling in the out world.
So I do think for sure what Ambi says as well,
like dungeons should be,
you should be incentivized to go do the dungeons,
but it does feel a bit crazy.
At least that's the first impressions playing on the beta.
Yeah, I think, I mean, really the big thing is for,
and this topic comes up and I feel like people get so,
there's like a lot of animosity behind that.
I don't know why, but when you kind of skip
that whole green tier of gear,
you're really taking away an experience from,
yes, from new players, but man, even for old players,
there's something fun about leveling a new character
and you finally go from getting a bunch of greens
to you start getting more and more blues
and that's just kind of how vanilla is designed.
That's how classic it is.
I mean, we go into knacks with blue items still.
You know, I still have a hand of justice on my guy
whenever I'm going into knacks, right?
So I think taking that experience away is bad.
And that's kind of like more of an intangible.
When you think about it more tangibly like brass tacks,
I think what likely happened in the,
like kind of in the probably design internal testing,
whatever, they more than likely had
these new crafting items come in, okay?
They come in new crafting items,
they re-itemize some stuff,
they work on the crafting systems,
you can get blue boots at level 10.
When I first saw that, I was like,
well, yeah, I was like, this is crazy.
That's pretty crazy.
I looked at it a little more,
I looked at it a little more and I'm like,
well, I actually think it's not that bad.
I think having one blue that you can craft at level 10,
and especially whenever it's like,
okay, you need some light leather,
you need enchanting mats from some,
so you actually have to work with other people,
people from other professions to craft one blue is cool.
But what happens as soon as you cross that threshold,
all of a sudden, wait a second, the crafted gear is too good.
Maybe we need to make the other stuff better
and make it better in the crafted gear.
And then, OK, well, now the other gear is too good,
like the dungeon gear.
Now the dungeon gear is too good.
Now what about our quest items, which
I haven't really addressed yet?
So and then you brought that up earlier, Ampy,
is about the quest items.
So there's a cascading effect that occurs,
and that is exactly to a T why you have power creep problems
in every single game.
Interesting, quick, like one sentence
what power creep is for anybody who's wondering,
because people have asked.
It's essentially the progression of power scaling
throughout the course of the progression of a game.
So as time goes on, how much stronger do you get?
Now, the floor, the beginning of the game,
is starting much higher, and then there's still
so much of a ceiling.
Now we don't know exactly what's happening in level 60,
but there's still so much we're seeing
and we're like kind of skipping the early parts of it.
So instead of starting at here, you're starting at here.
And I think that's not great.
I think when it comes to the blue items
and all that stuff, first of all, I would just say,
I freaking love what they've done with the professions.
I love that you can be in your starting zone
and do your professions and jump directly into it.
Hard to agree. I think hard to agree.
And I think it's awesome that like,
not only engineering has value early on,
You can go blacksmithing, craft some gear for yourself early on, leatherworking, all that stuff.
It's sick. Also camping stuff, I quite like that too.
But when it comes to these blue items and all these crafted things, like all these items,
if the itemization and the new scaling works and that's how it is now, and it actually doesn't come at the power grid, then it's fine.
But it still does feel very strange having done a Hall of Thames, you're level 14, now you think 16 from the dungeon,
and now you have five blue items.
That's pretty crazy, at least in my experience
with the data.
That's a living two characters now.
So one of the things that I've been doing
behind the scenes is I work at a video game publishing company
and one of the genres that we're particularly interested
is incremental games and idle games.
And going down the rabbit hole of that genre,
one thing he realizes, the best MMOs
are just really good social incremental games.
And with that genre, there's really good job
of the best games in that genre are very good at like,
all right, you start off, let's say you do one damage
to like a rock or something,
and then you spend a certain amount of time,
you mine enough of that rock, and then you come back
and then you do like 1.5 damage,
and then you spend a certain amount of time
on that level, mine the rock,
and then you go to like 2.1 damage.
And it's very slow, it's like,
It's a very slow curve upward, but that is what, you know,
I think Vanilla Wow did really well.
That is what RuneScape does really well.
MapleStory does really well.
All the best MMOs have a incredibly precise
and satisfying incremental progression curve.
And I do feel like, you know, in summary,
I guess at this point is jumping to the blues
undermines that incremental progression.
And there's probably ways of addressing it
to where Blizzard can accomplish its goals
and the intention behind their new system
without having to give up, you know, that feeling of,
oh my God, I just got like my first green
and oh my God, now I got a more optimized green
and then oh my God, I got my first unoptimized blue,
then I got my optimized blue for that specific slot.
So hopefully they figured it out.
Yeah, yeah.
I wanna, I wanna bring attention to something
that I keep seeing in chat is like, I think it's fine.
Like don't take away my blues.
But like imagine in classic, you're leveling up
and you get like a heavy spiked mace
for the first time on a warrior.
Like that's like a big,
a very strong impact.
That's a green item.
You get an executioner sword.
You get a Morlandim sword.
There's so many examples of greens coming in.
You get your first pair of shoulders.
You get your towel bar mantle.
Maybe it's not the best, but it's green shoulders.
Boom, it's better than your graze.
But that kind of feeling is gonna be gone going forward
because you're gonna have a pair of blue shoulders
at level 18 or something.
Yeah, level 20 and that's just gone.
It's gone.
It's never going to happen again.
You're just going to do your quest.
You're going to get it instantly and you'll be like, oh, I got a blue.
Nice.
Yeah.
Look, you forget about your journey.
You're literally getting cheated out of experience.
And I think, I think it's, it's, it's valid to like that experience.
On the other hand, it's valid to like getting blues.
I just think getting the, the steps for me is a little bit more classic.
Yeah.
Well, like, uh, I think that's what we're all trying to get across.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, dude, I'll tell you, whenever you're,
if you're like running through a bulge,
Ellen Forest and you find the vendor
and he has an executioner story,
and you're like, damn, exactly, dude.
When you hit that, it's like you click on the vendor
and then it's like, wait, it's here, it's spawned.
But those of you who don't know executioner story is a,
there, you can get it from a vendor,
but it's like a limited item with like a respawn timer.
Amp probably knows the exact timer and exact location
where the vendor is routed from.
But yeah, there's a weapons, a green weapon
that you can buy off a vendor.
And getting that feeling is like, damn, that feels good.
So yeah, I mean, you're getting cheated out of experience.
It's getting something taken away from you.
But people don't realize it like,
oh, I don't want my blues to go away.
And I think most people are not actually talking about
like, get rid of all blues in dungeons.
I think whenever we talk about this,
it's more so, hey, Hall of Thames specifically,
Rage Fire specifically, right?
Yeah, you don't need to have,
you can even put some blues in there
and even that will be special.
Let's say like the bosses drop, I'm just throwing out numbers.
Let's say a boss drops like three items,
two of them are green, one of them is blue.
So when that blue does drop, you're like,
oh, it's insane, you know, it feels good.
It's kind of, oh, sorry, but it's kind of like
when you do like a dungeon, RFC, RFC actually
doesn't have a blue item at all.
Dead mines, when you get mines normally,
most bosses would be green items
and they would have a chance at dropping a blue item.
And then the final boss, Edwin and Cleave,
would be the only boss that's like, I guess,
yeah, he's the only boss that's guaranteed a blue item.
Same, yeah, there he is.
So like Cookie can drop like a green or a blue,
same thing with Mr. Smite, right?
All those things.
And I think that's more the point, right?
Yeah, and I don't think any of those things,
I don't think anybody has ever complained about that, ever.
Like, who are you doing this for, you know?
Well, I do think, I mean, just to play devil's advocate, especially like
stockades, the one that comes to mind, I guess RFC, but to a
lesser stockade, I think stockades kind of sucks stockings, a good example,
but continue.
Yeah.
Now, I mean, I think, I think it's almost like specifically to
stockades where it's like you go in, it's like a mid 20s dungeon and like
you're killing all the bosses and they're like dropping like white gear or like
nothing.
Um, so I think maybe that probably should have been adjusted, but I agree with
like it's one of those things where I can see why they did it, but perhaps the cost has not been
worth the benefit. And there is a world where they can accomplish again, their intentions will
also preserving what you're all talking about. Thank you. And there's also a whole-
There's a whole funny sweet spot, I guess. Yeah. Well, there's a whole compounding effect, right?
You talked about like maybe keep it blue, sure, but it has to be deoptimized. There's a whole
compounding effect of, okay, well now you have so many stats. And it's not just about the colors.
And I think a lot of people don't understand this by itemization.
The itemization formula is, there's variables.
There's your item level for the item, which is, you can't really see that.
I mean, you can, but yeah.
There's item level for that specific item, and then there's the quality.
So if something is a blue item, it has a, like, higher number in the formula, so you
have more itemization points to spend.
So when they budget the items and actually build the items in development, you will just
naturally have stronger items.
So when you naturally have stronger items,
you have higher stats, those higher stats
lead to your character being stronger,
which leads to being stronger earlier on,
which affects the whole sort of like power progression
and difficulty of the game in the world.
Like the world feels much less dangerous,
I would say in general right now, than it did in classic.
However, I have noticed like,
I think it was around like a little 13 or 14,
where I randomly, you run into mobs
and randomly they just start nuking you.
And it's like, okay.
And there's just random mobs that are super strong,
but then there's other mobs that are just not strong enough.
And a good example is outside of under city,
there's these like death night type mobs
that do the shadow strike up to those.
Yeah, they'll nuke you, they hit super hard.
Like they're like defiance pillager level, I would say.
For like, they're like the undead version
of defiance pillagers, like that's how strong they are.
And it's just kind of this compounding effect.
And the concern and the problem,
I think for a lot of people is not so much.
Oh, this is so difficult.
Or sorry, this is so easy at this level.
I think it's, hey, is Blizzard gonna miss the mark
on this, the entire game?
And it's just gonna get to the point where it's like retail.
Cause they keep saying, they keep saying,
oh, you know, we don't want to AOE anymore.
We, they nerf the hell out of mage AOE.
They nerfed AOE tanking.
They tried to nerf any sort of AOE there is in the game.
But I don't feel it whenever I'm playing the game.
I mean, we're pulling tons of mobs.
I mean, I was running around on a hunter,
killing like a full pack of gnolls by myself.
I'm like, what is happening?
I mean, I know it's bugged
because you're not your nominee timer on your auto shot.
Like there's no cool down timer.
But yeah, people are just too strong, I think.
And that's where people are concerned is like,
is this going to keep scaling and it's just gonna be a joke.
I think you have the nail on the head.
Like I don't think I've seen anything outright
that really makes me feel that way,
but you can kind of see the seeds of it starting.
So like a bunch of things have obviously like
power crept a little bit. The gear is way more optimized at lower levels. The talents
and abilities are just better. I think for the most part, at least it feels like that
for a warrior. Like getting thunder clap, that's like actually useful at low levels
is kind of crazy. You know, you've got the ratios being, I think in many ways better
than they were back in the classics. So it's like, is this going to, is all this extra
power going to come at the cost of the world feeling dangerous over time and you know it's
questing just going to get way easier like you know you brought it more latimerly it's like
everyone has that memory of being in dusk wood and then either stitches comes up to you or more
Latin comes up to you just like it eats you is this going to be a situation where by the time
you're that level in dusk wood you're just like you know gear juice to the gills and gear and you've
you've unlocked some crazy talents,
and you're popping that night off racial
and fricking eating them down in 15 seconds or whatever.
Like, is that what's gonna happen?
Like, again, I haven't seen that happen,
but it's definitely something that,
I hope Blizzard has paid attention to.
And the world scales as all of these
additional power acquisition methods have scaled.
Yeah, I actually, I mean, I feel this has happened to me.
I feel like they designed the world scaling in a way
where it's much quicker than it used to be.
So like you can get your blue items at like level 14,
but then like by level 19,
you're kind of not feeling that crazy anymore.
At least that's my experience on solo warrior.
Like I did all things.
I got my five blues and I felt like a God
for three levels or levels.
And then all of a sudden I was like,
wait, this kind of feels normal again.
And so I feel like there is a world where they did
in a way where it's like, you do your dungeon,
you feel good for a couple levels and then you're like, okay, well,
I feel normal again.
I think that's, that's also, like that's my personal experience.
I don't know if that's true for every class or if it will continue to be true,
but I hope it is because I like that as a system so far.
The, the,
it feels good going through a dungeon, getting powerful, going out,
using that power in the world.
The thing I've noticed is no matter what you say,
no matter what position you're coming from,
if you come from the warrior perspective,
hey, how about you try Caster Buddy,
you come from Paladin, hey, why don't you try Warrior Buddy,
hey, why don't you try the Warrior Buddy,
and everybody thinks that everybody has it better than them,
which is like, I think it's very funny,
but I do think that that is a good thing to feel that way.
I think it's a good thing to feel like,
hey, those guys have it way better than me,
frick those guys, because what's happening
is you are feeling some friction
and you're feeling some struggle, if that's how you feel.
I haven't felt that really with anything
that I'm leveled by myself for,
but I leveled Paladin and Hunter.
And I really wanna do,
the three that I think are probably gonna be the most,
probably the biggest, like kinda shock to me
or the biggest difference.
I really wanna do Warrior,
and I wanna do Shaman and Jered.
Cause I think those three,
people complain a lot about Shaman and the power scaling.
We can talk about that a little bit.
And because that really affects all the casters.
And I think that's really a big thing
that a lot of casters are worried about right now.
Have you guys looked into, somebody did a chart
where they were like, how much spell power you need at x level,
or sorry, at level 60, to do the same amount of damage
with a baseline spell?
Yeah, so shaman, elemental shaman,
has absolute horrible spell co-efficiency.
So elemental shamans are looking a little bit
worried right now because it looks like it's just not going to be good at all
being an elemental. It's in discord at least. Yeah, I haven't seen it. Yeah, I think I saw
a chart. I like briefly glance at social media. I'm not sure if I read it correctly,
but are there certain classes that have to gain a lot more spell power to reach the spell
power they're tuned out in classic? Is that how it works? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So, but I mean,
The whole thing with the spell damage and the co-efficiency and stuff, luckily that's
an easier thing to fix because you can kind of just tune them a bit more.
But it's important that they feel good as well to play, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I guess, I guess, I'm sorry, go on.
No, no, you're so gone.
No, I was going to say, I don't want to go like too deep into like specific classes because
then we're going to talk about all the different classes, but some, it's important that the
feel of the class is good, right?
That there's been a lot of people talking to me and I've also discussed a lot since
I've played some warrior now about rage normalization and how Prott feels because like Prott feels really good
But it feels weird as a warrior going up to a mob and critting it and you don't get extra rage for it at all
Whereas in classic that's what you would do right?
So there's a discussion to be had about that too, but again, that's like a more in-depth for each of the classes
But I mean I would I would love to get into it with that
Actually, I think I think some of that stuff is and we can even talk more broadly about roles or like little specific things
But maybe maybe that's like a next week
Thing where we can we can really dig in to specific classes. I do want to say something before we
Like I don't want to go too deep in each class, but I've seen a lot of people complain about
Caster specifically
And and they are weak early game, but I think a lot of casters don't have their full kit yet
Like drew it as a good example
They don't even have starfire and and wrath was redesigned as like more of a filler ability
It's like citing only this as an example. It's like not the full picture
I think level 30 is a better example of how does this play out in the future?
Mm-hmm. It's like oh they have a vision then it's working or it's like oh no, this is still too weak. Yeah, so I think like level
level
30 is a little
Yeah, it's hard to tell yeah
I think I think that's something that we should be because because I think like we bring up all these you have starfire
We bring up all these
critiques, right? We bring up all these criticisms. And again, it's not coming from a place of like
hating on it at all, because I'll tell you, I've never, this is from my perspective,
and we're all, you know, came from trenches, okay? We're all old school private server players,
okay? And you guys probably feel the same way I do. I've never had so much faith, despite the fact that
there's things that you would like to see better, despite the fact that there's,
because it feels like there's some very obvious issues.
I've actually never had so much faith playing the game
in that, hey, maybe they'll actually fix this.
Just because of what we've seen
and how they've approached certain things
and the decisions that they've made that are good.
Not sure if they made some bad ones,
but they made a lot of good ones, really.
And they've done a lot of really interesting stuff.
They're doing great.
Across the board, it's insanely good.
Yeah, I feel like an idiot saying it.
I love this much better.
No, no, no, no.
I think there's been a lot to criticize Blizzard over,
for like, frankly, over a decade now.
And I think almost every ounce of that criticism
was justified.
I think it's important that when anyone is doing well
at something, obviously, maybe they struggled,
you really have to praise it and give that validation
and hopefully breadcrumb them and to continue to do well.
So like, no, I mean, I tweeted about this,
there's a lot of ways to mess up Classic Plus.
And especially when you consider like Blizzard,
like a small private server team
has a lot more latitude to like design things
as the community wants it.
There's not like teams of bomb teams and bureaucracy
and you know, you're not dealing with innovators dilemma
where you have a product that is already making you
all this money and you don't wanna like disturb
the player base and you know,
then you've got these, all these external data points
like these surveys where people are asking
for like flying mounts and classic plus
and all this crazy shit that we saw in the surveys.
Like that's a lot of pressure for a large team
to like take, digest, and then still deliver
what they delivered.
And Blue, I have no reason to want to,
to glaze Blizzard at all.
I really think they did a great job on this.
And things like this class tuning we're talking about,
like totally agree, you know,
they should be looking out for that.
But that's the beauty of this being a live service game
were like, they can constantly tune the classes
when they're out of whack.
Like, I'm not concerned about that at all.
I think whether they don't get it right the first time,
second time, they'll get it right by the third or fourth
update or whatever, hopefully,
and it'll just continue to be updated, you know,
from patch to patch.
So I'm not super worried about that personally.
For the first time, for me,
and this goes for all of us actually,
but for the first, I feel like for the first time in 10 years,
I'm a WoW content creator of an actively designed
and developed version of the game.
And like there's some things that they changed in Classic
and like there's some stuff that we got changed
and was cool, right?
But this is such an exciting time
because it's like, wait, just like you said tips,
they can actually change things.
They can actually update things.
They're not gonna like rest on,
oh well, that's how it was.
So we should probably keep it that way
or anything like that.
Hey, if this is bad, let's fix it.
if this is not good enough, let's fix it.
And I mean, that's the thing that's so exciting for me.
I think that's also why we have all these discussions
because it's really exciting seeing a classic version
of wow, that's actually getting new concert
and being developed upon.
That's why we have all these discussions
because I guess all of us wanted to be the best it can be.
But again, as Tim said,
we've got to get credit where credit is due.
The overall product that we have with the game,
everything that we were playing is really great.
And those like class balances and everything like that,
it's something that you can kind of like
take a look at down the line,
like if something doesn't feel good
since it's a live circus game, we can get that looked at.
And that's great.
But it's more important that like, I guess,
the all like the underlying features
and the general feel of the game is also correct, right?
And I think that's also some discussions
that are important to have like the,
some of the assets and some of the world and stuff.
I guess we'll also get a little bit into that too.
Yeah, do you want to talk about that, Guzoo?
It's probably the biggest thing I've seen on social media
or anything about it is obviously the sky born
and like the models being nicer or whatever.
So yeah, it's a discussion I've had a lot today
and it's also a discussion I see a lot of both on Twitter
and Reddit on different streams, YouTube comments everywhere
and it's something that I've noticed as well a lot
When I play and I run around in the game, there are some assets and models that really stick out.
Specifically, the Skyborne Druid form, so even the Skyborns themselves, not having an SD toggle,
whenever you're leveling in the new Skyborne Zone, which I actually think is really good.
I like the Zone in general, but there are some of the creatures and some of the sets and pieces of items that you get that just look so out of place.
because you have this vanilla based game with all these models and these like these items
that look very, that has a very distinct art style and they're sharp and they're a little
bit low-risk in some ways and then you've got these new items that look very polished and very
modern and they almost look like they're from a completely different game and when you have these
two different styles kind of like co-existing it can break immersion a little bit and feel a bit out
of place. So that's something that a lot of people are talking about right now.
Yeah. A lot of discussions are going about right now.
So I always talk about like having like the classic eye, you know, when you're designing stuff and
you just kind of have to know like, does this look classic or does this not look classic?
There was like a dev tweet. Do you guys see the dev tweet from a couple of days ago yesterday?
I don't remember when it was, where he's like,
I spent a year studying Classic WoW
to learn how they did texture mapping,
to learn how to do this, because I know
that these are the principles of what this game
was designed around, and people are having
this whole discussion about retail versus Classic
and all this stuff, like who is this game for?
I mean, one, the truth is the game is for everybody.
Okay, there's not this weird,
I think it's weird, grab the pitch forks,
animosity to get off, you know, get off our game.
Like it's stupid, right?
That's weird.
That's weird, I think.
But there's a clear, cut, proven method that works
and has worked for many years.
And they've also stated multiple times,
this is what we were based on the game off.
This is classic plus, word for word.
It was announced as classic plus.
It's something that they've studied,
they've tried to figure out and they're trying to emulate.
That doesn't mean they're doing it perfectly,
but they're trying, right?
And it's important the places that we don't do it perfectly
and it feels weird just like Guzhi said.
It's important to point it out.
And there's some things, I don't know who does what,
obviously, like we don't know who does what on the WoW team,
but there's some items and some zones and some places
that look phenomenal and they look like,
hey, this is a continuation of vanilla WoW in current year.
And then there's other things, I mean, I saw the sword,
like you were talking about some of the items and stuff
in the Skyborne area.
Like I saw there was like a,
somebody sent me a screenshot of a,
I mean, I'll be honest, it looked sick,
but it didn't look like it fit in vanilla.
It was like this elven sword and it was like a curve.
Like it was like a massive scimitar type thing.
It looked very cool.
They look great.
They look really cool,
but they look like they are like,
it's like a retail item.
You know, it looks like it's not like a vanilla,
classic based, not that it's supposed to be a vanilla item,
but I think the roots of the style
should mesh in together with that, right?
Yeah, that's the main part.
Make it a little more targeted.
The sword in the terrorist fall dungeon,
I think it's called like vial water blade
or something, I don't know if someone could pull it up.
That doesn't look like a level 15 item.
Like that looks like something you would get
in like sunken temple or something like that.
Like just-
What is it called? I haven't seen that.
Vial walker, vial water blade
or something like that, someone could pull it up, I'm sure.
But it looks like even if the resolution is downscaled
or whatever and the textures aren't as polished as retail,
just the design elements, it just looks more sophisticated.
It's got a lot more detail and different things.
Compare it to like cruel barb or any other sword,
like kind of in that level.
And those just look like straight up,
low fantasy, sharp swords.
And so, yeah, they're very plain.
Someone says in the chat, plain weapons.
That doesn't look very plain.
So what I would say is, yeah, just having someone,
I think there's two parts to this.
There's the actual just resolution
with like the Skyborne Druid forms
and just the Skyborne models themselves.
Those just look way too upscaled.
And then there's the items that,
they might not necessarily be upscaled,
but they're just designed in a way
that makes them feel out of place.
And they probably should design items
that are more plain and simple at those lower levels.
And then if they wanna reuse those assets,
they've already made it higher levels,
that might make a little bit more sense.
But yeah, like I think, you know, for warriors especially,
visually speaking, warriors will kind of like crap
until you hit like Scarlet Monastery
and like you get Herod's shoulder
and you get the Scarlet Gloves
and you know, you get Ravager or whatever
and like now you start to look cool.
And so you can distinctly tell like a level 40 character
from like a level, you know, 20 warrior look very different.
I think they gotta make sure they're sort of preserving
that visual progression as well
obviously depend on progression. Yeah, it's almost like this is another example of, I would say,
slightly missing the mark, at least in your perspective, I would say in my perspective too,
of incremental progression. We're like, they kind of jumped the gun with a little bit of like,
this is a model that you might have expected for like a level 30 character,
something and you're getting a level 17. Yes. Yeah, I could see that for sure.
Yeah, I had the picture here, by the way, of the weapon you're talking about specifically.
Yeah, I'm pulling it up on screen.
I need a better way to do this for future podcasts, but here I'm just going to go ahead
and pull this up right there and cover our faces.
Make sure all your other tabs are closed.
So yeah, yeah, so that's that's the one we're talking about, right?
Bob Bloods and the time is yes, yes, yeah.
I mean, it does look really cool, but you're absolutely right, it looks like something that you probably should get a little bit later because it does kind of, it kind of diminishes the value over time and it's a little bit specific and it's a little bit nitpicky for sure.
but space looks so weird.
I think the point is that there is some items
and there's a lot of armor sets,
some of the later armor sets as well.
They just look like they don't fit in with the rest.
And you're going to have a very conflicting immersive experience
and a visual progression if you have a lot of items
that look a certain way and then another,
a lot of new items that look another way.
another way, you're gonna have a very weird niche.
The best way to explain it is if you put all the weapons
like on a bunch of characters like lined up
and then it just looks like somebody's
from like a different expansion, I think.
Yeah, it looks a little different.
So it's kinda, it's like, like I said earlier,
it's a little bit nitpicky,
but and just seeing the weapon on its own,
like it does look like, I mean, it looks like a weapon,
looks like a fantasy weapon.
It's kind of crazy.
It's got like the jagged parts,
like the spikes coming off of it or whatever.
And I think that's not really the problem
that you were really trying to get across, Tibbs.
It's more so how it fits into everything, yeah.
Yes, like there's the resolution
and how it fits into the world.
That's what you were saying.
But then there's the number of design elements
that are on that model.
Usually like the higher level,
the more design elements there should be.
And on the lower level weapons,
they tend to be extremely simple.
You've got the hilt, you've got a straight blade,
no extra kind of fancy bells and whistles,
no extra art or texture on the blades,
a lot of the low level weapons look like that.
So this just, you know,
just has a little bit more sophistication, I guess,
to the model, even if it's low resolution.
And I agree with Ampii, it's just like incrementally,
you know, your character should grow in power incrementally
and your number should grow up incrementally,
but also in a perfect world,
the items that are available to you
should look progressively cooler,
at least progressively more complex over time.
And by the way, OSRS goes through this to this day.
And obviously, WoW Forever, whether or not it's directly modeled after OSRS is one thing, but definitely it's moving parallel with it.
So in OSRS, there's been a few times in the course of the game where Jagex has introduced a new model or a new weapon or something or a new armor.
that just look a little bit RS3-esque or the equivalent
of Retail-esque for World of Warcraft,
where they just seem slightly out of place.
They don't match that OSRS charm and that specific design.
One example is Elena from the Song of the Elves,
and she's an NPC in Artee,
but basically in 2019,
when they re-added her to OSRS,
her model got updated, and it got updated in a way
that the community really didn't like.
It just looked a little bit too modern.
So Jagex listened to the feedback
and they downscaled the model.
And Torva Armor, same thing.
They had like made some adjustments to Torva Armor
and then people were upset.
Jagex, you know, changed it to scale it down,
make it look more like the original.
So there's not something unique to WoW Forever.
Other games are going through this
and you just got to have someone,
like you said, a sort of classic eye
that can discern, okay, this looks cool,
but it might be a little bit out of place at this level,
or the textures might be a little bit too sharp.
Maybe we should downscale it
just to make sure everything fits in the world.
And obviously the Skyborne, their starting zone,
all the mobs, like all the NPCs in that zone,
they're way too sharp.
Hopefully they fix that.
Yeah, visual cohesion is important.
That's the point, I guess.
I want to confirm, so,
because I played a little bit over in Skate,
but not as much as, you know, a couple of people in this call, at least,
because he, I think, devoted what, like a half a year of your life,
just straight to, straight to RuneScape for a little bit there.
Oh yeah, I played all of RuneScape, man.
They got, they got pissed that they, they got pissed that they removed the green
pixel of the construction icon.
They wrote a riot on the reddit for a green pixel that you could even not even
see unless you soon bin.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, so, uh, correct me if I'm wrong.
Is this what you were talking about with the armor set?
right here. It's on the the gray one. That's that's told I am. Yes, yes. Okay, so so you were saying
that they released it and it looked like it did on the right and then people were they didn't like
it they wanted to be more like it is on the left because it matches more of the old school.
I think it's the inverse. Okay, okay. Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that's probably a better example. It's more one-to-one classic.
Okay, I'll leave it.
You'll see the progression.
Yeah, let me get that link for you.
So, I think, no matter what side you follow in this argument, whether you say it's nitpicky
or, you know, it looks the same or it fits or whatever, I think that just talking about
it and bringing attention to, you know, we've all played classic WoW. We look at this and
that we say, we're saying to our eye, it might not mesh well to your guys.
You might like it, but this is just, we're just voicing it, trying to get out there.
Well, no, it's just because there's people in the chat that are like, dude,
there's no difference. That's the point.
99 or the people that don't play the game won't see the difference,
but the people that do play the game or like really passionate about the game do
see the difference. And so it's like, obviously,
for most people that don't play OSRS, they're gonna be like,
oh, that's like the same picture, but that's the problem.
Like the problem is it's probably harder to find designers
that can really have that eye to like notice, okay, yeah,
this is where the nuance is.
So that's why it's challenging.
Yeah, it might not matter to everybody,
but there's a lot of people that really do enjoy that style
and then having two different styles in the same game
can kind of be very confusing at the end of the day.
Yeah, I mean, I see what you guys are saying.
No, I think actually tips you hit the nail on the head.
So for me, I haven't played a lot of RuneScape
and I can see the difference,
but to me it's like not huge, right?
But it's because I'm not, I don't play RuneScape
like I play classic, wow, I don't play RuneScape
like you guys have played RuneScape, right?
So you guys are playing it so much,
you guys have played it so much
that you can really, really dig into it
and be like, okay, like this is something
that just doesn't fit, you know?
I mean, yeah, so I get it.
I totally, I totally, I totally get what you're saying.
Cause yeah, I've like, like, cause I'm one of those people
that I like, it's hard for me to tell the difference,
but I see it.
I just, to me, I can't really relate to the,
to how big of the difference, sorry,
how big of a difference it is,
just because I don't have like the hands-on expertise
that you guys have, you know?
Yeah, I mean, one of the very obvious ones
that I feel like most people will see
if they played the beta, if you watched any videos
or streams of the beta is the Druid forums.
They just, when you're running around in Barren's,
and then you see a Torren druid or whatever,
you see players playing, and you see a Skyborn druid.
They just, they look like they don't like fit.
It looks very strange.
And it's not because the idea behind the model itself is bad.
It's just because the fidelity and the design
and the, it just looks so different than the rest.
And that's the main thing.
It kind of breaks immersion a little bit.
I know there was a Reddit user, someone on Twitter I think,
that made an idea for like a, basically the same
SkyBorne model, but in more of a classic style,
which was pretty faithful and pretty actually very well made.
So it's more like that, it doesn't fit in, it looks so odd.
Yeah.
I think it was in Nate's state that you're talking about.
I don't know if I pronounced it right, but it's like NAIT.
Yeah, Nate's state.
Yes, Nate's state.
He did a really good job.
Tom Kent also did an amazing job coming up
with some different things.
Now, I will say that kind of started whenever
there was a lot of data mining going on,
and Aggrad came out and he was like,
hey, just because you see something data mined,
just because you see something data mined
doesn't mean that that's how it looks in game.
And I think a really, really good example
was the undead Paladin charger.
Because I saw the screenshot of the undead Paladin charger
and I'm like, this is, that's a hell of a lot of polygons.
their brother, you know, like I saw that and I was like,
okay, this is weird, but then I saw it in game
and it looked fine.
Like it's a little bit more ornamented
than the Alliance one, but I think it looked fine
for the most part.
It looked like classic to me.
I thought it looked like a vanilla,
it could have been a vanilla mount.
Like the important thing.
I like the Pal of the Mount.
Yeah, I like it too.
So a lot of times when stuff does get data mined,
I don't think we should be having like
need your reactions to everything.
But it's a good thing to talk about.
It's a good thing to know.
I do think the Skyborne, the Skyborne
Druid forms are a little bit, they're
a little bit too ornate, just a little bit for me.
I don't have as big of a problem as other people do with it,
but I see where people are coming from,
because it doesn't really look like a classic.
It doesn't look like a classic bear, for example.
And I do think that's something to consider.
Also, the fact that they say there's no SD,
there's no classic model for the Skyborne, right?
Yeah, there was some people, I posted this in the Discord,
and in the chat about some people testing out
like some SD versions of the Skyborne,
because currently there is only just the Skyborne.
And I guess they're based off of the Blood Elf model,
I suppose, so it's that.
But there's been a lot of, there is no currently no SD.
Yeah, sorry.
So, you said they're based off the blood-off model.
Is that?
I believe so.
I think so.
Because I don't know, but that's what I was going to suggest.
Because I haven't leveled with Skyborne yet, and I want to.
So I can really get a good feel for the zone.
I've just seen what I've seen.
So you haven't done, OK.
I was going to ask, Ambi, have you done the final quest
of the Skyborne?
I have not even done Skyborne yet, honestly.
I did it on my list, but I haven't done it.
The ending of the Skyborne Zone is very something.
It's very something else.
You should do it and I wanna hear your reaction on it.
What do you think about that?
Okay.
Yeah, maybe I'll make that one of my...
Maybe I'll make that one of my guys.
Yes, one of my guys.
I'm coming.
Give it a try.
I like most of the Skyborne starting zone though,
I will say.
Okay, that's what I heard from you.
The ending of the Zone is very different
than anything else in it all.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, my suggestion from my, you know,
I kind of have a layman's experience on this
because I haven't leveled a skyborne.
I'm like, why don't they just use the burning crusade model
and just give it the different skin colors?
Just throw a filter on it for the SD.
Is that crazy?
Bro, you're asking the right questions, I don't know.
Yeah, like, I don't know.
Like, is that crazy?
Yeah, I mean, no, it's not crazy.
I don't think it's crazy at all.
I don't think it's crazy at all.
Because I don't like, you know,
somebody brings up a good point.
like people would say it's too lazy.
I don't, I mean, they would,
but it's better than what we have now.
I mean, why not, why is better than nothing
because it's just kind of.
Yep. Yeah.
I don't know.
That's kind of how I feel about it.
Let me scroll up here to the notes.
It's so funny.
So chat, what we do for these podcasts,
and this happens with every podcast that we're on.
I mean, if you guys have seen it,
I was like on Soda and NMP's podcast recently.
Pretty much every podcast is like,
you have these topics and it's like a list of stuff
and then you just start talking
and it goes off in like every direction.
But it's good that it looks back.
It's like, okay, where are we at?
Yeah, we talked about a lot of stuff.
Oh, you know what we should really talk about here?
And this is, I think this is a really good thing
to talk about given kind of what we said
about the power creep and leveling up
and a little bit worried about the starting point
being too high, what is horizontal progression?
And I don't want to ask you guys,
what is horizontal progression really mean to you guys?
And how do you see it playing out in a while?
And if you can go ahead and start.
Horizontal progression in a while,
I feel like my goal for horizontal progression would be,
I mean, it kind of has to start at end game because you have to have growth through your
leveling journey if the world is going to scale.
So up until end game, your character scales to a certain level.
I would call it a somewhat logarithmic scaling wrath per se, where your character reaches
a point and then from there at level 60, maybe a little bit after 60, so like once you're
raid geared, you're scaling tapers off to a point where you're going to use molten core
gear let's in this hypothetical tier one gear let's call it tier one gear mm-hmm some tier one gear and tier three
Tier four maybe even up to tier five and I think at that point
This is my horizontal progression idea would be like I would say about five tiers back
The gear would be mostly replaced maybe like maybe have a chase on but I even think that there's a point where like having
More than five tiers. You're actively interested in doing is probably too much
I
would even say four like there's there's there's some scaling and
Ideas to be messed with and this is something they can figure out once we get there
Or it's like the community's like this is too much like I don't really think I want to keep
Riding six raids a week to keep my stuff, but like
It has to remain somewhat vertical in the sense that you do replace your gear eventually I think
I think it just needs to be a very slow process
And I don't know how that looks 15 tiers down the line. I really don't know. But like
I don't know. Yeah, at that point, I think it's a forever content. Yeah, I think I think that I think
I'm just saying the phrase horizontal progression. And if you like people have been talking about
classical plus for years, like, I think, I mean, I've been talking about this for years, too,
where it's like, they need to have horizontal progression. So it's actually, I think a much
harder like bigger obstacle to kind of climb. Guzi, what do you think?
I don't know. I mean, at the end of the day, the basic of how World of Warcraft has always
functioned is that it at baseline, it's always been a vertical game. You know, you do your
even like even classic, I mean, classic to some degree has, you know, you have your chase
items, you got your onslaught, you got your benefit, you got your thunderfier, you got
your hand of rack, you got your, you know, your items from Blackwood layer and so on
and so forth, but it's always been the next year come out,
and then you kind of just work your way towards that tier.
Eventually a new expansion comes out and you go to that.
So, I know taking that whole vertical system
that VAU has always functioned up like with,
and then changing that is the challenge
that this whole VAU forever faces,
because I don't know how they're gonna eventually
get to a point where like,
we have some new rates coming out,
and let's say they're doing content in four months from now,
and then there will be two new rates,
how will you then feel rewarded by going into those rates
and getting some items?
I kind of have to do like a shout out
or like a parallel over to old school runescape
because people say, oh, well, just don't do
what old school runescape does.
And old school runescape has nailed it,
but that's because the game functions
just differently at a base level.
The game is a lot different and it doesn't rely
on the vertical progression of next years,
kind of alleviating the next.
You kind of go to your barrows to get your tank gear to go to your moons to get your hybrid gear to go to your new thing.
And then you kind of work your way all over the game.
And I do think World of Warcraft can do those things in some sort of fashion.
But I feel like there will still be an endpoint eventually where you're going to have to increase the power level,
even if you have some gimmicky items or like some stuff that does damage against undead or whatever.
It's it's a very difficult thing to solve.
And I don't know what would be the best way to solve that, but it's really the main issue with this,
where like how the heck are they going to solve horizontal and vertical?
It's because wow is just vertical, and that's what was made wow successful.
No, 100%. I mean, at its core, that's how it started.
So it's a very big like philosophy shift that they're going to have to do with the
with the idolization and the gearing.
Is it tear sits or is it like, sorry, but oh gosh.
No, I have some thoughts too, but before I speak,
Tips, I wanna hear what you have to say
about horizontal progression,
because we, so Tips and I like,
we, Tips and I talk every single day, you know,
and we'll just talk about random stuff,
and you've talked with me about horizontal progression before,
and I know it's something that you're very passionate about,
So we tell everybody your thoughts on different horizontal progression
and like different things that you might want to see.
For sure.
So if, if creating a classic plus that it feels like, you know, faithful
and authentic to vanilla while creating new content and new discoverability
was the primary objective, making wow forever last forever would be
the secondary objective.
And what I mean by that is they accomplished the first big goal.
Like they didn't screw up, you know, the authenticity of the game, which is great.
Like a lot of people felt that they wouldn't even get past that part.
But now it's like, okay, you built the thing.
Now, how do you keep the thing floating for the next 10, 20 years?
And my personal thoughts on this is I think it's a serious challenge.
I don't really know kind of like what Guzou is saying.
The reason why horizontal, first of all, what is horizontal progression?
In my personal opinion, imagine stacking Legos.
My kids are at that age where they're stacking Legos a lot.
So I hope they're staying stacked.
You're not stepping on them.
Oh, God, you should see my left thinking.
But basically, as you stack the Legos further and further up,
the tower gets flimsier and flimsier.
So you've got to start stacking Legos side to side
as you're stacking them up for the tower
to be more substantial, more powerful, et cetera.
So that's kind of the analogy that I use in my head where vertical progression is just leveling up and accessing the new content.
So, you know, going from level one to level 10 to 15, accessing Hall of Thames or whatever, and then going to the next thing.
That's vertical progression.
Horizontal progression is everything you do while you're at your level to grow your character.
So acquiring gear while you're leveling, I would consider to be a form of horizontal progression.
Leveling up your professions while you're leveling at that specific level is horizontal progression.
Anything that maximizes your character's power or potential at a specific level is horizontal.
Anything that allows your character to grow its level and access new zones, new levels, new dungeons, whatever.
That is what I would personally consider to be vertical.
So the reason why this works really well in Old School Runescape is because Old School Runescape is a massive game
where hitting level cap takes thousands upon thousands of hours.
Just to level your base combat skills in OSRS,
attack defense strength,
for a casual player that's not playing optimally,
can take you between 500 to 800 hours on average, no joke.
If you add prayer, magic, and range on top of that,
essentially double that time.
And then if you add all the other skills,
like slayer, fishing, cooking, wood cutting, fire making,
to max skill in OSRS, it could take you 5,000 plus hours.
I'm sure players have played 10,000 hours
and they haven't capped because they're playing casually.
World of Warcraft is not that style of game.
And by everything we've seen so far
in the beta for a while forever,
it's gonna be even faster.
You're gonna hit level cap faster
than you did in just Classic WoW.
And so if Classic WoW takes you an average of 150 to 200 hours
to hit max level, in a while forever,
it could take you something like maybe 100 to 120,
150 hours maximum to reach max level.
So how are you gonna build a horizontal system
on a game that is only 150 hours long
to finish the vertical progression, I don't know.
RuneScape can do it because they've essentially got a canvas
of 5,000 plus hours of level brackets
where they can go back in and increase waves,
characters can progress at certain levels.
Whereas with WoW, it's like, okay,
I could add a lot of really cool gear
and side grades at level 18, but bro,
why is a player would I be incentivized
to chase all those side grades
if it only takes me like two hours to get from 18 to level 22.
And I've already like bypassed the need for a lot of that gear,
a lot of those side grades that horizontal progression.
So the way Blizzard has done it,
or what it seems is the way they're prioritizing this
so far is through the legacy system.
And that's cool.
You know, getting more nodes while you're farming or fishing
or what, getting more fish while you're fishing
and getting more rest or experience,
that's all well and good.
But is that going to be enough to keep players around literally forever?
Um, I don't know. I don't, I'm not sure. Um, you know, I, I just don't know.
I don't know how they're going to do it. If it was me, I'll tell you if it was
me, and this is the last thing I've been ranting for a while. If it was me,
and everyone's going to disagree with this, I know I'm sorry.
But I would have quintupled the time it takes from level one to 60.
I would have knew. I would have moved the level bracket. Sorry.
I got to say this, like I can farm some hit a little bit.
I would have changed the level cap from 60 to 100.
So you still have like some more dopamine release,
but it should take you like five to 800 hours
to hit level cap in wow forever.
That way you've got a much larger canvas to work with
where you can create horizontal progression
that feels meaningful at lower levels
because players are spending more time at those levels.
So that's what I would do.
I don't know, nobody else would want that,
but you know, it is what it is.
I think conceptually, I don't think it's a bad idea.
I think it's something that would work in a game.
I don't think it would work in something like WoW
and what WoW has to offer,
but I don't think it's a bad idea,
but conceptually for an MMO to take the lead direction.
Go ahead.
I actually have an interesting take based on EverQuest.
EverQuest, you could actually start rating at 50,
and you could raid with the people
and say, so you're just gonna be weak.
You could still raid with them,
but, and you could get the gear from the high end rate,
it would just, so I think having some realm
in between that could be interesting
where it was like slower leveling,
starting at like 55 and then 55 to 60 took a long time.
Yeah, you could start like 46,
you could do like Nagathon's layer with people
and it was actually capped so that only people
below level 50 could interact with that content.
So there's an incentive to go there earlier.
And it kind of made it so that like leveling became
kind of a thing that you would do on top of your endgame thing.
Let me ask you a question, Ompie.
Let me ask you a question.
Going back to like sod and stuff.
So the Black Fathom Deep's raid, would you
have done the BFD raid in sod if sod released without the early,
that was a 20 or 25 cap in the beginning?
If it was just, you wouldn't have done it, right?
I wouldn't have done it.
Because there's no reason.
Yes, exactly.
That's the problem.
You can increase a lot of,
you can add a lot of these raids,
like these lower level raids,
but if there's no reason to do them
because the game is so short to reach level cap
and that's where like the juiciest content is,
then why would you do it?
And I think I do the one time for DXP and the thing,
but I move on.
Like one time max, that's what I would do probably.
Yeah.
But that's it.
That's still, like this is one,
and then you move on, right?
Yeah.
I want to mention kind of my sort of idea
behind horizontal progression.
And unfortunately, I think it might move away a little bit
from what they're doing here with Classic Plus,
with Why Forever.
So my original sort of thought process
behind what horizontal progression would be
at the max level was if they were to add different rate tiers,
like fit different rate tiers in, move things,
afternacks, beforenacks, whatever, right?
But these raid tiers would kind of fill in the gaps
of the power spike that occurs from like BWL to AQ40 and X.
Cause that power spike is huge.
It's an exponential power increase that you have.
And it's because not only do you have more itemization
points and stuff to budget the items,
but Blizzard started to optimize the gear more and more.
So you're hitting it from two points,
from two angles to make the gear better.
And that's kind of why things just snowball out of control.
Like, Naxe Patch, vanilla wow is,
I mean, dude, trying to do all in the Naxe Patch is just,
it's too much, it's crazy.
But man, ZG Patch, and you take the progression
from, you know, pre-rate to MC to BWL ZG Patch,
my gosh, dude.
The ZG Patch is, I've talked about it a bunch,
but it's just incredible.
So if you were to find a way to smooth out the curve
little bit and not necessarily add items that are getting stronger, but add items that give
you more like more ways to play your class. That was like my original vision. Like I thought
that prop Paladin should get a taunt through an item that they get in this new new dungeon
or a tier or whatever. Now, that was the original thought that I had and I actually don't think
it works exactly like that anymore, especially with what they're doing. I think there's
there's some things that you just have to address.
Because then with that logic, you're not really gonna have a,
like a paladin is not gonna have a taunt until level 60
and whatever rate tier that comes.
So that stuff doesn't, I don't think it really works,
even though, you know, that's just how it used to be about it.
I think it was wrong.
But I do think, generally speaking,
having more items within the scope
that are basically filling in those gaps.
Because whenever people say horizontal progression,
It's not literally a straight line A to B.
Because I don't think that's necessarily good.
It's more so that you have this exponential curve
of power creep in vanilla wow.
And you just need to take this exponential curve
and just bend it down a little bit and make it a little bit.
No, make it linear necessarily.
But maybe more.
I mean, you mentioned logarithmic a little bit earlier,
right?
So I think making it more logarithmic in that regard
where it's like, hey, you kind of have this like linear graph,
but then slowly as you get later on to tears,
there's less and less of a difference.
And you have to have some degree of progression.
It just shouldn't be nearly as much as what you're getting,
what you're getting in like vanilla wow.
And it shouldn't be a flat line.
It shouldn't be literally everything is the exact same
because it's just not good.
It's not gonna be good that way.
And now I will say this, what vanilla does really well
is they don't throw away old content.
They don't throw away the old raid tiers.
There's stuff in MC that is good until the end of vanilla.
It's at least good until next.
Bonsai Gertl is a great example.
Thunderfury is a great example.
So you have these reasons to continue to run the old raids.
And I just think there should be more examples,
and it should be just a little bit more flat.
Yeah, I mean, the game will always be vertical,
to a certain degree, but it's just a matter of,
like, you don't want the jumps to be too extreme,
and things to kind of just completely eliminate another.
Like, you don't want a new raid tier to come out
or like some new content to come out and just be like,
okay, well now this is just what we do.
Now that's the content, that's where we get all our stuff.
You want to kind of be able to get utility items
or different things that can grant you certain bonuses
to certain things, right?
I think that can be kind of cool.
I mean, what Runescape does is that they have
different weapon types, like a staff weapon
or a lunch weapon or a whatever, a crush weapon.
And then that's how they solve it, right?
that's how they like, okay, you want to do this raid,
you got to get some staff weapons
because the enemy is weak to staff.
But I don't know if that would really work in WoW.
I'm just saying that there's different ways to do it.
I saw a lot of people as well mentioned something
with Guild Wars 2.
I don't really know how Guild Wars 2 does it.
I haven't played it myself,
but there's definitely ways to make it
so that content can still matter.
I don't think doing anything like scaling
or anything like that would be a good idea.
That would be horrible.
But just as Espen says, take the vertical line
and just make it not as crazy.
Where like, you just suddenly like,
now we're in Saad, we're in Karasen, bang.
Now we go to next, twice as good gear.
Now we go from next to Saad, twice as good gear again.
That's insane.
That just completely makes it so like,
okay, whenever you get to this next rate tier,
nothing else matters than that rate tier.
And that's the kind of thing you've got to avoid with the ball forever, right?
Or like, they have to avoid.
Yes, 100%.
And like, this is a very difficult question and challenge.
It's hard.
It's very hard.
I see some people like just throwing out, oh, they should do this, they should do that.
Like, it's not just adding content to horizontally progressing, it's then incentivizing it so
people actually play.
right now the biggest risk for wow forever as I see it is 30 days after the first rate
to your lunch rates launching December 6th right something like that.
Yeah, it's like five weeks after launch.
There it is.
So like some time early January after the new year we're all just going to be like, alright.
Summer 9th.
Yeah, I think summer 9th.
Okay, so like by January 9th, we're all just going to be like, alright, that was fun.
Yeah, so what do we do now?
you know, like that's, and are we just waiting for the next raid tier? Um, I think, again,
that's the problem they have to solve. And you know, there's a reason why Guzu hasn't
played Guild Wars two and Ampe have you played Guild Wars two? A little bit. Yeah. A little
bit. As Fendi played Guild Wars two, very little. I mean, it came out, I tried it and
I was like, Oh, you need it? And like if I went down and I asked everybody, you know,
out here, if they played Guild Wars two, 90% of them are going to say no because it's
dog shit game because they didn't do it. That's why everyone's saying, oh, they should do it
the way Guild Wars two did it. Yeah. Guild Wars two. That's sold like a couple of million
copies as a buy to play game versus world of warcraft. That's had like 300 million accounts
created as a subscription game. Yeah. Let's, let's take our advice from the fucking dog
shit game here instead of like, you know, the games that have actually succeeded like
wow and a RuneScape. Okay. Great. Great. Great advice there guys.
Well, no, I mean, you're
I'm watching Aswin a little bit recently.
No, you're kind of right.
Hopefully, when he's playing, wow.
But, uh.
But, I mean, the thing is, you're kind of right.
But I don't necessarily think that everything, let's say you
don't like a game or something's not good.
That doesn't mean every idea the game had is bad, right?
Like, you're, you're, you know, it's funny.
I'm playing, I'm playing.
Yeah, I'm playing, I'm playing.
Because retail has the same thing.
Retail is the same thing, right?
Where there's like a lot of classic players.
Where, and I said this before,
people use the word retail like a slur.
Like literally, it's, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
It's retail, and it's crazy.
But not everything in retail was bad.
And not everything in classic was good.
You know, there's things to learn from,
there's things to grow from,
there's things to add in.
It's like, oh, you know what?
There's some things that were objectively a good idea
that did not exist in Vanilla WoW or Burning Crusade.
You know?
Or like, for example, like they changed the,
Some people are upset about the group finder tool.
Now it's not LFG or Raidfinder,
but that's what we have in Burning Crusade,
and it's fantastic.
And a lot of it has to do with accounting for the times.
And the chat spam, I'm telling you, man,
when there's a bunch of people on the server,
people got their Mute Olympus add-ons.
Like, you know what I mean?
That is crazy, by the way.
Yeah, dude, it is insane
because you can't even look for a group.
So it's-
I heard they hit like 30,000 members or something crazy.
Insane.
But my point is, is like having a client,
like not a client, but like a literally like a window
that you can use to find groups.
And people were, what was the add-on called?
Do you guys remember what the add-on was called?
The Bolton Board?
The Bolton Board, yeah.
Was it Bolton Board?
Was that what it was called?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So people had built their own add-on to do this
and it was scuffed and it was weird.
And Blizzard was like,
why do we not just add the burning crusade?
It was a light patch for the crusade edition.
And people love it.
At first, nobody used it.
Actually, I remember 2021, Burning Crusade,
nobody would use that thing,
but it's time it's gone on.
They're like, okay, this is nice
cause I can actually fly out into the world
and I can go do things and I can,
I don't have to sit in shatrath all day.
So you kind of prevent like the raid logging,
the city of king, now some city of kings good.
You know, you should have to go back into town
and see people, but, and I, I'm not gonna lie to you.
I miss talking in trade chat.
I wish they had a sanctioned world chat.
That's what I really wish.
I wish there was a sanctioned world chat on the server like we used to have on private
servers because people like slash join world, but it is just, it is unmoderated.
It is, it is bad.
It is real bad.
But if they had like a proper sanctioned world chat with like rules and you can't have people
come in and just like ban people out of world chat, I think that that would be great.
We'll set a password.
Yeah.
They'll set a password.
It's like, dude, you're killing the culture on the server stop on nights.
It was great because what they would do is anybody would advertise no advertisements
Like no, you can't after this for Gild, don't do LFG,
send LFG to LFG, right?
Or whoever was moderated would just ban people.
So on Night Slayer Horde, World Chat was really good.
But an old classic, it was just crazy.
But I just wish Blizzard would do that.
But that's kind of a separate discussion.
Either way, I think not everything
that is from another game that maybe you don't like,
or not everything that's from retail,
or not everything from classic is always good or bad.
There's always individual things that you gotta look at.
So I think that's important, right?
Um, yeah, it's, that's pretty important.
Actually, by the way, this is a fun little, fun little note.
I just got a message from our old friend, old friend of the show, uh, Kevin
Jordan, the original, the original class designer for vanilla out, the legend
himself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He just sent me a message.
So maybe I think he'd be great to have on the guy who built all the classes
from vanilla burning crusade and rap lich king.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe takes on the beta and everything.
Yeah, he's been working on a new game too. He's working on a new game recently
So it'd be fun to hear about his new game too
But Kevin is like and I think he was employee number three at Blizzard
Yeah, I'm pretty sure yeah, I don't know if he was employee number three at Blizzard or on the wow team
I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure it was Blizzard. So
Yeah, pretty cool
Yeah, yeah staff of Jordan the stone of Jordan like that that that Kevin Jordan those you guys who don't know Kevin Jordan
It's it's the staff of Jordan guy. It's the stone of Jordan. I I never made that connection. Yeah, that's him
Yeah, I can't wait to see this I can't wait to see the stats on that thing
I can't wait to see the stats on like everything like all the itemization changes like yeah
That's what has me so excited like they did such a good job at like what they call it unsolving the game or whatever like
And it's, I can't wait to level 30 and the game comes out.
And like for all the criticisms, like these, these nitpicks that we're giving today,
like it's crazy how out of everything so far, our biggest concerns are theoretically,
how are they going to pass the horizontal progression and like theoretically,
is the power creep going to be bad at end game?
But in the past, it's always been like, oh, there's like 16,000 things to complain
about. So, you know, for all of this,
They did an amazing job.
I saw your video, Espen, you said they did like a nine out of 10, bro.
I totally agree.
I might even give it like a 9.4 or something.
There were so many ways to mess this up.
I'm so happy we're getting to play this.
Yeah.
I'm just excited to even go to a zone I already know because I know there might
be a new quest or a new mob or new something I can look at.
Even it's insane.
It is, as you say, it can seem like very minor things
in the grand scheme of the stuff, but man, they've done a good job.
But I do still think it's important that we have these discussions about some
of these things in the game and the systems and like the models and all that stuff.
And I guess maybe next week or next time we can talk a little bit more about the
classes, you know, the power of the stuff, rage normalization, druids, all that stuff
too, because that's really also, there's a lot of stuff there to talk about.
Yeah.
And I know, like we've done that a little bit, I mean, on our own streams, right?
By the way, if you guys don't already,
make sure to go follow Ampey, make
sure to go follow Guzoo on their Twitch streams
and YouTube and everything.
And actually, I think it's a good time to shout it out to you.
We do have a new channel on YouTube for Classic Cast.
It is Classic Cast Podcast.
If somebody could go ahead and post that link in chat
of the Classic Cast Podcast, maybe it's just
X-Wingish-Point Classic Cast on Twitch.
But yeah, there's a new YouTube channel.
So we're doing things a little bit differently
Then we did back in the day, whenever it was the old season one with tips,
when we were kind of just noobs and just like, you know, shooting from the hip.
So we decided to make a whole new, new channel and we'll have like shorts and stuff on there.
So that's just a whole classic ass channel that we're going to be working on together.
So it's still a work in progress.
There's been a lot going on.
We've been playing the game and also tips doesn't really create content anymore,
but make sure to go buy a Star Forge PC.
Yeah.
Make sure you go buy you a star force PC if you need to spend $7,000 on a 50 90 to run a 22 year old game
Go to star force PCs that's right. If you can't help me in stock absolutely, you know, you need it
You know you need it. Yeah, and one thing I forgot to say actually sorry, I said you well
I just want to say the same thing but go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Well, I just wanted to say that
You know blizzard I think has done a good job
But because I don't make content anymore. I can kind of say this now. I can glaze you guys a little bit
I actually think that a lot of the feedback that the community has been giving but also the creators have been giving behind the scenes
Just some things that I heard through the grapevine like have really made an impact. I feel like you know, you guys really help
I think Guzu you went out there has spent you went out there like a
Lot of the feedback you guys give on be the feedback that you give it does make an impact
And I feel like you guys have really played a crucial role in making sure this game doesn't launch like in a really poor state
So great job guys. No, thanks, dude. Yeah, you guys did great. No, thanks, dude. Yeah, we appreciate it
I mean, I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you. I think amp you should have been out there, too
But that's a discussion for another time
Yeah
But um
But yeah, no, I will say this you said you don't really make content anymore
that's half true because you might not be like the frontman for content anymore, but
there's still a little bit of a drive, a passion, a fire.
So I think it's good to announce, in case you hadn't heard already, we've been working
on new dual tournament.
Tips is like the, when it comes to tournament organizers in Classic WoW, second to none,
is the guy. He went from like the CDL from years ago. If you're an old frog, you might
remember like the old like classic Duelers League, setting up the CDL stuff. Eventually,
like we know whenever we started OTK, Tips was the guy planning everything, doing everything,
coming up with the rule sets, figuring everything out, coordinating everybody. And there's just
an immense amount of time and work and effort that goes into it. And he does everything
on the back end for people like me to come in and take the credit for and do absolutely
nothing. So I'm like, you know what, I would love some more credit again. We are going
to be hosting another dual tournament. The last one was the Macarral like three years
ago. So new dual tournament is coming for the end of classic beta. So stay tuned on
that tip. So do you want to tell them when they'll get more info?
Yes, we'll have an announcement video coming out the next couple of days. I'll give some
top-line info because people keep spamming discord about it so I'll just get some top-line info out
there for everyone. It's going to be on Alliance side PVP, sorry on Horde side PVP, not Alliance,
Horde side PVP. There's going to be a $50,000 price pool. It's going to be an open dueling
tournament so anyone can compete so long as you meet the prerequisites and register properly.
and it's going to be two days, October 17th and 18th.
So get ready, it's going to be level 30,
it's going to be Horde side, 17th and 18th open tournament.
You know, we're prepared to have thousands of people
in the bracket, should be very exciting.
And the plan is, if this goes well,
we've got plans for a level 61
and when hardcore comes out, my personal goal,
I don't want to promise this.
My personal goals do a $1 million hardcore macaron
and wow forever.
We'll see if it happens.
Yeah.
Those are the ultimate ambitions.
We're just gonna try to get through this first.
That's the chase, we talked about chase items.
That's the chase tournament.
Okay, that's the chase prize pool.
That's not horizontal.
Yeah, that's not horizontal.
What's that?
I mean, hey, whoever wins that is gonna
probably get horizontal, but that's a discussion.
Um, no, the, uh, yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. We're very excited. Um, tons of work
has been going on the back end tips have been killing it. So, uh, very cool. We're gonna,
we're gonna see that. Uh, we're gonna, we're gonna get more info for that version. Now,
I also want to mention because I already know what some people are going to think like Hort
again, you know, I mean, that's how I would feel. So ideally it'd be between, between
We have both factions involved and everything.
But there's like some logistical issues.
And maybe if we can, you know,
if we can do a tournament or two,
or maybe we can figure some stuff out,
maybe we can get the support that we need
to be able to have like cross-faction tournaments
and stuff like that down the road.
So, yeah, don't worry, don't worry.
I mean, I'm, hey, people's paladin.
I'm fighting for the Alliance all the time.
So I would like us to be Alliance side.
And I know we did Horde last time,
but yeah, that's just something to keep in mind.
So.
We'll try to do Alliance at 60, hopefully.
There's just some problems with Alliance
and how certain things work at these level brackets.
So I won't go into the details, but we can wanna do
Alliance this time, yeah.
Yeah, so it's gonna be good.
We're very, very excited.
I wanted to touch on a couple more things.
We've talked a lot about kind of where they are so far,
things that maybe they're they're a little bit behind on and and what we'd
like to see be better. I didn't mention the respect costs because I feel like we
can't really test anything. I know that's that's feedback that I've been very
vocal about like dude just make it like whether you saw it was like a yeah it
was like a silver or something just do that yeah just let them let you know let
the kids play make the respects cheap don't make the respects that expensive
or sorry that cheap when it's released but
But yeah, that's that's the goal but like that they should cost a little bit
I think the goal is fine actually. Yeah, but it should be incremental right eventually. Oh, yeah, like yeah
I think that isn't vanilla is fine. It was my point
It should be like I was in the long launch, but
the other thing
You know the reason for that is because of the gold sink principle
I want to mention
Another gold sink that has kind of caught people's eye recently
The black market auction auction house stuff
What do you guys think about the black market auction house stuff that people are saying do you like it? Do you not like it?
I don't know anything about the black market option. Okay, so is there is there like some general details?
So what can you do on it? So basically retail? It's basically like a copy-paste of retail how they did it
I remember we've seen so far now
Now, one, I don't know if Blizzard intended it for us to see the black market auction
house as it is because it's not, I think it's in the Riverlades is where they have it.
So it's outside of our level range.
Now, even if they didn't intend for us to see it yet, they should be smart enough to
know that some people are going to go try and discover every single corner of the map.
What it is, it's basically a, it's an NPC auction house where they put incredibly rare
items on there.
The screenshot that I saw was like some tier zero gear and death chargers reigns and some
stuff like that for like really expensive gold.
And there's like a bidding that happens and somebody, you know, eventually somebody wins
it.
So it's just like a normal auction house.
I think there's no buyout.
I'm pretty sure there's no buyout.
It's a straight bid.
And yeah, basically it goes for however many hours, whatever it is, and people can get
these incredibly rare items.
So it acts as a gold sink.
That's why it's in the game.
It's to act as a gold sink.
When I saw it, I thought it was like an accident.
I was like, surely this is a mistake.
I got confused as well.
Yeah.
But I think there's a lot to think about here.
I've talked about it quite a bit, but I will wait to kind of, I'll wait to say what I have
to say.
Do you want to let us know what you think about the Black Market Archon house?
I don't know. I feel very conflicted about it honestly because I mean I do think it's good
obviously having some gold things but I feel quite weird about having like very very powerful
gear and then also something like a death charger's reins on like a Black Market Archon house that's
supposedly was going to be in like a you know Strat Hall Strat sorry I can't speak Strat Lai
reset. Strat on dead. And it's like a very, very low drop rate. And if you see it, you know that
they got the drop in there. And now you have this black market auction house that you can now
bid in. And then obviously, there are some issues with it, kind of like incentivizing a lot of
RMT, that's a whole other can of beans to open up to. But I don't know if I'm a big fan of it
personally. There's also, I guess, we could talk about that after or whatever, but there's also
Also the vendor next to that black market auction house that then has a lot of the
high value resources like a black lotus, arcing crystal at a ceiling price that you
can purchase like black gold or 50 gold.
But I'm not sure if I'm a big fan of the black market auction house in general.
I don't know how you feel about it, Anthony.
I mean, just hearing about it, I haven't really processed it for too long, but I actually
don't know if I'm mind.
I think I'm okay with Black Friday on Shouse.
And that's simply because while, yes,
it may promote gold buying.
The amount of gold you're gonna have to spend,
like if you're thinking about one of these really rare amounts
and you're thinking about like the degenerates who want this,
like you're gonna be paying so much,
you're gonna be buying so much gold
to be able to afford this cosmetic item
that if they are truly cracking down on like RMT,
that should be like a massive red flag, right?
So I think that it's probably not a huge issue.
huge concern in my opinion, if someone has to buy, let's say, 100,000 gold, like to get
this item, that's like crazy, isn't it? Isn't that like a big like transaction?
I feel confused about it. I don't know. Yeah, go on.
So I think it just depends on the prices. If you can get death charges, reins and they're
up like once a week or something, I think that's a problem. If it's more of a rare thing,
like something that only comes up really rarely on the auction house, I think that's
and different, I think it just depends.
There's a lot of reasons why you would want to incentivize
people to have a lot of gold in the game.
And I think there's also a lot of reason
to give people these chase goals that maybe
are more obtainable than doing Stratholm 5,000 times for 0.001%.
So I think if the outcome is not a lot of RMT
and it's more just people playing the game and farming more gold I'm okay with it remains to be seen for me.
So here's how I feel about it.
This is what I originally I saw it and I had a little bit of a knee-jerk reaction
and I was like, what the hell is this? There's gotta be a mistake.
Clearly this was just something that they were thinking about and they forgot to take it out, right?
Now I'm like, oh my gosh.
Anybody who gets something from the black market auction house, it should flag your account
and you should get a scan, a check to see if there's gold buying that occurred.
You know?
Exactly.
Yeah, literally they should use it.
Like a hunting plot.
Yeah, literally.
That's what it should be, dude.
Check in PC, exactly.
Yeah.
100%.
You do an audit of all the gold in and out where it came from.
Dude, you start looking at the, okay.
So this thing leads to this, this, oh, wait dude, we found it.
I found this is the guy who's selling all the gold
to all these people.
So there is that.
I'm like, man, I really hope they do that
and someone just gets busted for like spending like 10K gold
in the Black Market Auction House.
On the other hand, okay,
let's talk about actual gameplay part of it.
If you have actual gear,
like I talked about like the tier zero stuff.
Now at the beginning,
that stuff's more important than the later patches, sure.
But at the beginning, especially,
If you have like actual gear, like tier zero stuff,
random raid gear, stuff that gives you player,
gives your player power, I think that's really bad.
I think it's not good.
You're taking away from the actual game itself
and what it means to progress in vanilla wow
or classic wow, right?
It's not really vanilla, but it's classic wow.
I also think when it comes to the cosmetics,
I feel like you shouldn't even have cosmetics on there
that are attainable by other means.
So normally it's like, okay, if you're gonna have,
if you're going to have some kind of, you know,
thing like this where you can like pay to win,
or it has to be something you can also earn,
I think it's the other way around.
I think in this particular case,
if you're gonna have a black market auction house,
it should actually be like black market items,
things that you can't get otherwise.
So I'm talking Spectral Tiger.
I'm talking that turtle mount from the trading card game.
The unarmored Epic mounts from before patch 1.3.
Like if you played on private servers
with like proper progressive organization,
patch progression, stuff like that,
if you were able to get an unarmored Epic mount,
that was like a big status symbol back then.
But Blizzard, I mean, I'll tell you guys,
I mean, I talked a lot to Blizzard before 2019 release and I really tried to get them to put the unarmored epic mounts in because I thought
that's like a cool status thing and
What it came down to is I think they didn't want to like make
Like FOMO like it was like artificial FOMO or something Colonel. Sorry my phone
But yeah, they didn't want to have like FOMO from oh I have to like grind the game and I have to get my epic
Mount now, but I'm like, yeah, but that's like a status symbol. That's cool. You got your epic mount early
So these things that are not attainable in the game currently
But there are things that exist.
I do think it's cool to have that kind of stuff
on the black market auction house.
So you still see a guy with like the Baron mount
or the undead mount, the strap undead mount, sorry.
The, that rarity and that prestige is still there.
It's like, oh, he just got that from a random drop.
If you have something like a spectral tiger
that you can get from the black market auction house,
it should be so incredibly rare.
Like there can only be one that comes out in like a year.
Like it should be that rare.
Like statistically there should only be one per year.
I think that's what they should do
with Black Market Auction House,
is use that as a gold sink for these incredibly rare items
that you can't get any other way.
So it's like a separate sort of prestige scale,
then getting an item that drops from raids.
That's what I think.
So I'm solicited to take here.
You actually gave me an ideas fan,
But kind of starting at the top, for me, I would ask myself,
like for any new feature that doesn't exist inside classic,
I would ask myself, what problem are we trying to solve
with this new feature?
Like what is the purpose behind it before adding it?
And specifically the black market auction house,
if the purpose is gold sinks and trying
to combat inflation or something like that,
There are probably other ways to do that
without invoking retail vibes, I guess,
and creating maybe unnecessary tension in the community.
But something cool, actually,
that I think could be funny,
is if you were gonna introduce Black Market Auction House,
I would say all of the items on there should be unique
in that they can't be gotten anywhere else in the game,
and they should be knockoffs of items in the game.
And so like, instead of Staff of Jordan,
there's an item called like Stick of Jordan,
which is like a Staff of Jordan,
but with the like crystal like duct taped onto it.
And it would have like the stats of Staff of Jordan,
but then we also have a big curse element,
like KISS Curse where like it's got the stats,
but then like maybe minus 250 HP or, you know,
on proc as a chance to put a debuff on you
that slows your spell casting for like 10% for 10 seconds
or something like that.
And all of the items there would be like, you know,
knockoffs or like, you know,
team move versions of items in game, even mounts.
You can do like team move versions of mounts
to kind of fit the shady vendor black market vibe.
You have like a tiger with a limp.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Exactly.
That could be funny, but I think,
and correct me if I'm wrong,
retail players because it's been a while,
But I think one of the problems with the black market option house is that I think you can max bid.
Yeah.
And if you max, yeah, you win.
Yes, you win it.
So it's like, you can't buy it out, but like they crits a lot of toxic behavior because the people are just camping in and staying up late.
And, you know, at the end of the day, people want to do that.
It's up to them, but there are some drawbacks to it.
You know, if you want to make it fun and thematic, that could be cool.
If you want to just put a vendor in the game called like shady vendor and throw some items
on there, I could be fine too.
Yeah.
Like why does it have to be an auction house?
Why not just here's a vendor that sells 10,000 gold mounts, kind of like in Rathalichkin
with a mammoth or here's a vendor that sells like 20,000 gold twink items or something.
You know, that could be something.
I don't mind it that much.
I just think it's kind of unnecessary.
And if the goal is to solve inflation and to create gold sinks, there's probably other
ways to do it that are somewhat less contentious.
That's my thought.
Well, yeah, I mean, gold sinks are good.
They're good to have in a game.
I personally don't want, I wouldn't want them to have the Black Market Auction House.
I don't think that's a great solution.
But I think if you do it the right way, it's not so bad.
I think the screenshots and the current iteration of what we've seen on there is not good.
But yeah, no, I think having those gold sinks there.
If that's what they want to do, which I personally agree with, because the gold scale is completely
out of control.
And I mean, things are just so expensive in the auction house, inflation, all this stuff.
If you look at Burning Crusade or you look at like era, or I should say anniversary because
I haven't played as much era recently.
It's a real problem.
Now, we talked about something else, tips privately about like the loot box idea.
Like I like that.
Yeah.
I think that, yeah, like Timson and I, like I said,
we talk all the time about just like random stuff.
And then we were like, well, what if you had a gold sink
problem, or sorry, you were trying to figure out the gold
inflation issue, so you want to add a gold sink.
What if you had like loot boxes that you can buy from
like this random NPC?
Because there are good gold sinks that have existed
throughout the course of, wow, in different expansions,
Harris Pilton bags and Burning Crusade, the vendor mount
from like Wrath of Lich King, it was Wrath, right?
It was Wrath.
Yes, yeah.
Yeah, the Wully Mammoth.
Stuff like that is like, okay,
you have some good gold sinks,
something to just be like, hey, people want this,
it's a status thing that somebody formed a lot of gold.
It's a different type of status than just like raiding,
doing dungeons, getting lucky.
So yeah, I mean, especially bagged space, dude.
I think bagged space is gonna be at such a premium.
I'm totally down.
Like people were quitting on Burden Crusade anniversary,
so I'm playing on a Horde Night Slayer.
Hey, by the way, S-Fan Dina, Horde Night Slayer,
S-Fan Alliance Night Slayer.
If you want someone to take care of your gold,
I will take care of it for you.
Don't worry, I'm still planning to burn a crusade.
So yeah, just letting you guys know
I can take care of that for you.
It'll go to good use, it'll go to a good home.
But yeah, immediately.
First thing I did, hair spelt in bags.
I'm like, I gotta get, dude,
I have to get these bigger bag slots.
So something like that, I think is good.
I think it's good to have some stuff like that.
Create the Gadgetzan Gamba House,
and literally like it's super thematic.
You go in, you can buy between three different loot boxes
and the lowest tier has the lowest probability
to get something good and like it's 99.99% crowd.
Oh my gosh.
It's the cheapest and then the middle tier
is a little better than the high tier
and just have people de-gening there all day, every day.
It's the original gold sink, dude, is gambas.
So yeah.
Dude, I think having the loot box thing
and the rewards should be like stupid cosmetics
that are like funny.
I think, like not things that really affect
like your player power and all that stuff.
It shouldn't be competitive,
but it should be like funny stuff
that you can win from the loot box.
If they were to do something like that,
I would be down.
I think it'd be fine.
And it'd be funny.
Dude, fricking all these gambling at it.
Dude, I've seen them in fricking capital city.
Dude, they got a torn and a suit.
Torn and a suit, you know?
Yeah, dude, the fricking torn casinos, man.
I've seen them.
I know they're doing it.
People are sitting there just fricking gambling
all day in Thunder Bluff, man.
That's just, okay, they're gonna do it anyway.
You might as well at least take the gold out of the economy
instead of taking the gold
and then the gold sellers putting it back in, you know?
They're death rowing everything, crazy.
Anyway, yeah.
Do you guys have anything else that you wanna touch on
or we can start taking some Q and A?
I think we could cover at least most of the stuff
we wanted to talk about.
Next time we can try to delve more into the classes,
But I think, is there anything you wanted to add,
and beyond this?
I would open out a can of worms.
No, no, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
I know, I can't do it, dude.
Okay, okay, look.
What's so bad about having a really expensive
rare item on the black market auction house
for something that takes zero skill?
Like a really rare item that's not locked behind skill,
it's just a random drop.
Why can't someone who farms 10,000 gold
go buy that from an auction house
if it's also rare on the option house.
That's my,
Yeah, it's like a double, yeah, the death charger.
Like, like, like so rare, it's like the,
like I used like the ones, like one can drop in a year.
Basically.
Like that rare, no, like, like death charger is a good example
because if you walk around the city,
you're still gonna see a lot of death chargers
on a mega server, you're still gonna see them.
They're not gonna be like so rare that you're like,
Oh, I've never seen this in my life
because it's more than 2000 people on the servers.
You're just gonna keep seeing this kind of stuff, right?
Same thing with legendaries.
I don't think legendary should be on there, but like it's the same idea that I think you know
This is this is my thing I come from
I've played a lot of EverQuest recently and a lot of raid gear maybe not the highest level raid gear
But a lot of it is tradable and you can sell it to other people and in RuneScape you have sellable raid gear
But I don't think it necessarily
Creates a problem to have like really like I don't think that it's instantly
Because an item is purchasable. It's a bad idea. I think it just comes down to what?
and how the system works.
Because if they are actually like,
let's say they're using the black market auction house
to punish gold buyers.
How does it promote RMT?
Yeah.
I see your argument about that,
because the main argument is people will buy gold and buy it.
But I really, I feel so strongly about this dude.
Do an audit of their account,
if somebody wins something off black market auction house,
it'd be so good.
Well, so to answer Ampere's question,
so in RuneScape, let's, you can buy, let's say you buy,
This is dating me for sure, but like a dragon battle axe and runescape you can go and you can buy that
Even like as a fresh account if you like bought a bunch of gold or whatever
But you can't access it or use it until you've met the prerequisites
Which is getting to the proper level and then doing the quest chain, which is a big long quest chain with a bunch of other
Quests that you have to do it takes a long time to do it
so if I think unfortunately with wow
It's just not built that way where if you buy a really good item then you can just pretty much use it the second you hit
the level. So I think there is somewhat of like a devaluing to players efforts when you
just throw these things up. Now you can make the argument that well, you know, farming
gold for like 12 hours a day for like a year, that's a lot of effort and that's kind of
valiant in some ways, right? But I just think that it's probably one of those things where
I don't know something about I don't really have a logical argument something about it
seems a little bit off. I would like to know that the person wielding might have
Menethil got it because he grinds his character level 60, did all the raids,
killed the finite boss, got it. Well yeah but like let's say let's say you're in
like, I don't know, you're in tier four hypothetical tier four and a tier one
chase item goes up on the black market auction house. Are you mad about that?
Because this is something that somebody who got historically unlucky for the
last six months, they've never seen this item. And it pops up on the black market.
And I was, are we upset about that?
If I'm being honest with you, no, but I'm not, but if I'm being really honest with
you, I'm not upset about anything anymore. Like I'm just, I'm too old for that shit.
You know what I'm saying? Oh, like, actually, I probably shouldn't go down that
rabbit hole, but like, I'm trying to think about how old you are.
Yeah. You guys should go look at classic as episode one tips versus
now. Okay, what I'm, what I'm like, to answer your question, I don't think I would be upset
about it. But I think people that are really invested in the game and hold a lot of, hold
a lot of stock in, you know, accomplishments, you know, being worth something, and you can't
just swipe the credit card to get it. I think those people would be upset. And I do feel
like, you know, there is a sense of like in the early
versions of the game, you kind of had to earn a little bit
and you couldn't just buy a WoW token or a level boost or
something like that. And I think it's probably worth
preserving that if you can. Now, I still think, you know, the
gold sink and the inflation, that's a big deal. And like,
again, if you ask, you asked straight up, like, would you
care? I personally wouldn't, but I feel like maybe some people
wouldn't. It's probably worth trying to preserve, you know,
of some level of prestige.
Well, I mean, I feel that way too.
I mean, I would not,
I would like to just see it be a completely different,
a completely different thing.
Because there is something else about that too.
Like, I think it's cool to be like the rich guy in WoW.
You know, like there's some people
that that is their main content.
All kinds of people play this game differently.
And that's something that has been the case
ever since vanilla WoW.
Whether it's leveling, people like to level a bunch of
alts, level a bunch of characters, whether it's
PvPers, whether it's Raiders, people just like to
gill lead, there's so many different things.
There's so many different types of skill and types of
gameplay within those categories too.
Like PvP, how many types of PvP skill are there?
There's dueling, there's doing solo battlegrounds,
there's ranking, pre-mades, there's arenas, right?
There's all these different types of world PvP, I mean
These are all different types of skills that people have and certain people are, you know,
you might be good at one thing and bad at others, you know, whether it's like leveling
or rating and whatever it is.
Gold farming is also a way to play the game.
Some people are just, they like to play the auction house, they like the economy.
I had a teacher in high school that played WoW and like, you know, it was like a thing.
They found out because I was like the big WoW player at my high school.
And then that teacher played Wow as well.
And I remember, I just like I got flashback.
I remember when I found out he played Wow and I was talking to him and he's like, yeah,
all I do all day is play the auction house.
You know, I just sit there and I have so much gold.
I have so much gold.
If you ever want to come play Horde side and play the Lions and play a Paladin.
Now I was an arena guy.
I did arenas and all that.
This was in Pernicorside.
And I remember when he said that's all he did was play the auction house.
I was like, I didn't say this to him.
like, dude, this guy's a noob.
Like what a loser.
And like, I was just straight gameplay.
I only PvP'd.
I played Counter-Strike.
I played, I played it while Rino's.
That's like all I did.
But I just remember thinking that I was like, loser.
But now, as I've gotten older, I realized like,
there's just so many different types of ways to play the game.
But it was just funny how you think about things as a kid
and what you do.
It's like, oh, well, it's not what I'm doing.
So it's stupid.
But, but yeah, I think it's cool to have,
for those gold farmers,
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farming gold, you're absolutely right. Lau has historically not done a great job of recognizing
the people that do play the economy, play the auction house, farm a ton of gold. And if there
there is a way to allow those people to kind of stand out
and show off, I think that's totally fine.
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What are your thoughts on Chase items
from Slim Thickem, what are your thoughts on Chase items, such as the ring from Dead
Minds that has viability and future raids, although very sunken stats?
I think actually this is a fun question.
Do you guys see the ring from Dead Minds?
Is it the one with the set for level 60 or one?
It's first mate band.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's first mate band.
I think it drops off of Mr. Smite.
So it's a pretty good ring and I'll go ahead and yeah, first mate band.
I think I can maybe load this up on the stream as well.
But basically this guy is six strength, two stamina, but it has a set bonus.
You can have two rings.
The other ring is called Band of the Better Half, and it gives a set bonus whenever you
have both of them equipped.
Chance on melee swing to become angry, increasing your strength by 50 for 10 seconds.
has a, uh, oh, so there's like, basically just a hundred millisecond internal cool down
so it can, it can keep rocking.
And the second is plus 20 strength.
So just outright gives you 20 more strength if you have the other ring as well.
Um, I'll let you guys start.
What do you guys, what do you guys think about this?
So is the set bonus only active at level 60 or is it?
Both rings.
You need both.
Level 60 ring.
Yeah.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, what do you guys think about this?
So, I don't know, I feel a bit conflicted.
I mean, it's an item, so like you need to get
a low-level ring and then a high-level ring.
But what was the stats again for it?
Hold on, I need to like pull it up so I can see.
The low level, the low level is six strength, two stamina.
I'm gonna copy paste it to you in the Discord group.
But I actually think this is a great question.
This is a fun one to talk about.
I wish we had thought about this one
to talk about beforehand, so good question.
First, let me expand.
This is the first time I see this,
so this is just off the rip.
It's kooky, it's weird, it's unique.
So I put a lot of stock in those three things.
So it seems cool.
Now is it something that's gonna, yeah.
Oh, sorry, come on.
No, is it something that's gonna be useful or used?
I don't know, but I like kooky stuff.
That's weird that you have to think about
and like theory craft and is this actually gonna be good?
Or which scenarios is this gonna be good in?
So I think this is actually a W.
I don't, you know, someone's probably gonna point out something, you know, really imbalanced about it or something
But I think it's a it's a quirky little W
Yeah, so the the second ring is like expertise and you get strength and stamina and the set bonus is 20 strength
And you can have a chance to get like a 50 strength proc like I like half of a
Crescent of Prague, I guess. Um, I
agree with the what's up, I feel like a
Lot of these items that we see in the dungeons that are like new items that are like a little bit
weird but kind of funny and they add like some flavor to the game I think it's
cool but I think there's also a the axe that drops off of that mines called rock
slicer I believe it has like a certain amount of charges where you can then mine
like copper and tin and silver for like a few charges with the axe like a crowd
pommelor has charges I don't think that's kind of cool I don't know just a
little bit of flavor to the game it might not be a meta item but if you're
like leveling up the dead mines you get this ring you're like you can save it for later and then
whenever you get to level 60 you didn't get this band of the better half you don't have another
ring that's really good yet so you're like okay i'll bring this level 20 ring i got earlier and then
have a decent setup for 60 already i think that's kind of cool might not be the best item at the end
whenever the meta becomes apparent but it will be a cool item to have and save up for later than
you can have a set bonus for. I think it's cool. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of wish that they went down a
route of like, sand throughl or whatever from ZF where you combine the two sorts. I think it would
be like, combine with the first mate's band and then it says combine with the whatever the other
one is called. And you like, forge them together. And it becomes one that's like really strong.
Maybe not as strong because it's only one slot. But I think that that kind of idea,
I like that a little bit more than like fundamentally. I don't know if I like the idea of wearing a level 18 ring
Just for the set bonus. I feel like it's kind of like a you're kind of like trapped into it like a ringset
And I personally don't like that
um
Like zg rings come to mind you're like, I gotta wear these forever until I get two good new rings
I can't even replace it just one, you know, so right, um
I'm not gonna close my mind. I think the soul wreck
idea that you gave is cool though like combining weapons I think is sick I that's
like a very iconic sulfuric item as well like those two swords you turn into a
big two-hander yeah it's too bad the sword itself isn't very good but like it's
a cool thing well it is good for the level it's just hard to get both of the
items yeah well yeah it's like it's like I'm pounding brain so it's like it's
too fast it's too fast I don't want it oh yeah that's where it is for me but
But yeah, I think stuff like this is pretty cool, and I think that it shouldn't be...
Just because they didn't do it like the, whatever it's called, the ZF Sword, I'm trying to
blank, but whatever the ZF Sword is called, just because it's not like that, exactly doesn't
mean they can't do something like that later.
I think stuff like this is cool.
I like that they are just finding creative ways to do stuff.
Now what I think would have been really funny is if the second item just never dropped.
Like, I mean, technically, I think for the sake of the beta, I think it's been really
funny because I do think they're doing some of this stuff.
At least I hope they are.
Maybe it's wishful thinking.
But I think they're putting out some breadcrumbs of things and just be like, what do you think?
You know, like what, how are people going to react to this?
And trying to see the feedback and see how people talk about it, see how people use it.
One of the things is like the mage thing, like the blade of silver lane.
So like I have a blade of silver lane.
I was like, oh, this is a sick prop paladin sword.
So I have one.
I ran SFK one time and it dropped.
And I just kind of kept it in my bags and then people are saying, oh, like if you have
the mage thing and then you can upgrade it or whatever with a 98 fire damage proc or all
that stuff.
I think they are just literally kind of like they didn't sod, just sprinkling random shit
everywhere, just randomly throwing stuff out there and just saying like, hey, what do people
think?
Okay, because you look like you had a...
Sorry, Faye, I was like screaming at me right now on the stream.
says to invite him on the podcast. Yeah, I will. I messaged me last week.
Dude, I'm like, come on. It's like, you gotta get a classic payout.
It's just always unbelievable. But yeah, we gotta like we can't we can't have all
the guests on at the same time. But I think to round it up a bit with that,
I think I think flavor items are cool. As long as they don't like force you into
something that you don't want really, I think the item is cool, though.
like you get a ring early on, you can use it later on,
you have maybe not the best ring at 60,
but like a little introduction item,
or maybe as Andy said, you could get one,
like two halves of a ring that doesn't,
they're not that great by themselves,
but you can combine them and they turn into a cool item.
That's things like that, I think are cool,
just they're flavorful.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm sure.
What about like smelting pants?
I wish that lasted for beyond the low.
Those are cool.
Kind of like the gloves in RuneScape,
we have like the smithing gloves.
The gloves, kind of having a smithing set for the rest of the game, I think that could
be interesting.
Yeah, so it's an item that drops on the deadlines from the gillnit, I guess, that increases
your smelting speed by 25%, right?
That's awesome.
That's super cool.
I think that's such a sick flavor item too, but was it only for low level things or something?
Yeah, it was only for bronze, copper, and tan or something.
I wish it was for higher level stuff too.
I feel like that would have been a right out of runescape.
Yeah, but maybe maybe what you said would like with the set maybe you could get like a smelting set
So like when you get higher level, maybe you get the first smelting set from. Oh, yeah
Yeah, that mines and then later when you do Uldaman
There's like the second piece of the smelting set and now you can do higher ores and then you go B or D
And then there's the final set and then you can everything is faster smelting
So you build a smelting set
That'd be cool, I think yeah
Yeah, no, I think I think I think stuff like that is just it's gonna be fun
It's going to be interesting to see.
So I think it's all great ideas.
We'll take a few more questions here.
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Next question, what changes do you think would actually break the game that people would
stop playing or spend only a little time a while forever?
I think this is kind of loaded, but it's like talking about like deal breakers and stuff.
And I think everything that we've seen so far, I don't think there's like a big deal
I don't think there's anything that kind of leads that way, but is there anything that you're really worried about?
Going forward that you're like, damn this could really hurt the game long term for you guys because I feel pretty good about
Where we stand right now. I don't know if there's like a key
I mean there's things that I mean discussed earlier in the podcast today that like things that I'm like a bit worried about
But I don't think there's anything I'm like no I will not play if this still happens, right?
But there's stuff that that would make you feel a bit turned off with the game, right with stuff like somebody
I guess like with the models or whatever or like if they don't manage to nail the progression field
But that's that's such a difficult answer like question to answer now
Like overall I feel very good about the general game like feel very good
I feel like for me
It's it's it's just if I get to 60 and I'm able to instantly finish my character and log off and like that's the cycle
And then I'm gonna get put into an alt gameplay. I think that's a deal breaker for me
I want to be able to put in like tips that are way back earlier, you know put in like
five thousand ten thousand hours for like a maxed account.
I want to be able to put long-term grinds in my character and if they don't offer that
sort of thing I'm gonna be upset because I don't like alt focus gameplay.
I want to invest and progress my character a lot like I want to have that those chase
goals so that's my deal breaker I want that stuff.
if they don't manage to like really lock that feel of like progression and
but that's a hard one, right?
But that is like, that is the essence of the game.
That's what they have to really nail.
Yeah, yeah, if I could like thumbs that up a hundred times when Ampe just said,
I'd say a hundred percent.
And I, I think that's the biggest question is how are they going to handle the
horizontal progression and that longterm gameplay on your main?
And this is kind of a cop out answer, but like, I do feel like,
I think his name was, was it Chris year hut?
Was that the guy that spoke at BlizzCon?
Yes. At the, talking about itemization and the pallet and stuff.
Yeah. I mean, between his, his, uh, his section,
his, um, workshop or whatever and Agren's,
I feel very confident that there's probably not many,
like this is the right team to, to do the best job, I think.
So I feel hopeful like Guzu and I think what Ampe said is,
yeah, that's probably the biggest question mark.
And I'm relieved that there's a lot of things
they could have broken before this point,
but they didn't, so that's great.
So, you know, fingers crossed they figure out
the progression thing,
because that's the big question for sure.
Yeah, I think for me,
I think the big thing for me is,
this was for me, it was the biggest concern,
and I'm a little bit on the edge there.
But I talked a lot about like the original class design and I play Paladin, okay?
So that's my main but for me like if you if you don't maintain the original
play styles of those classes as an option like for what like the classic
player of that class probably feels. So for example, I mean for me it's like
SEAL Twisting is a pretty big deal. You know, I like the burning crusade
Rhett Paladin is so good, but I also am a big believer in there should be an alternative
play style for people that like the more like whack-a-mole Rathalich King play style of
Rhett.
Now I don't think there should be a cleave and stuff like this, but that's why things
like having the Holy Shock pulled up to the 21 point, then you go like 30, 21, like I actually
think that panned out so good.
My concern now is that's like way strong.
It might be we'll see a level 60 and they'll probably have to tune in with some of the
other decisions that they made.
But overall, I like that idea.
Now, I don't think their implementation of that, of the seal twisting and stuff, is
very good.
I really think they should just copy-paste what they did in Burning Crusade.
It should literally just be like, this is how it works in Burning Crusade, except instead
of Holy Shrike and Crusader Shrike, this is real nitty-gritty.
And I'll talk about this a little bit more in depth on Sunday.
Savics and I and a few other guys, we've been talking, we're going to do like a paladin
Council Sunday afternoon and just talk about a bunch of different Paladin things.
Now I think Paladins are overall in great shape.
I just think there's like a little like design tactility stuff.
I don't think they're underpowered at all, but I think it's like a little design tactility
stuff that I hope they address down the road after what I saw at BlizzCon.
But for me, that would have been a big deal breaker and that's not there anymore.
So I think we're good.
Yeah, I think we're good there.
So, as Fan mentions, Paladin, easy bingo card.
Okay, congrats on winning the bingo.
Yeah, congrats.
Let's go.
Let's do one last question.
One last question.
And let's see, what's it gonna be?
Mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm.
There's a lot of questions.
Oh, and also who won the giveaway?
Jeff Farks won the giveaway, by the way.
So congrats to Jeff Farks for the giveaway, congrats.
Yeah, congrats to Jeff Farks for the giveaway.
I sent him his key and his Twitch whispers, so congrats.
It's not rigged, he did not cheat, okay?
But yeah, Jeff Farks on Twitch, congrats.
So, let me know if you guys see a good question, by the way.
And maybe I'm missing it because there's like a lot of messages, right?
So one last question.
I think this is a pretty good one.
And you guys might have even a little bit more insight on this than I do, because this
was like during a lot of my RP, so I played the beginning and the end.
What do you guys think were the biggest lessons from Season of Discovery and does forever
reflect that?
for me, just to kind of like explain where I kind of stand with season discovery.
I think season discovery did a lot of good, but it also did a lot of bad.
And I think like on the system side of things, like season discovery was like constantly
band-aid fixes, put it on a vendor checklist gameplay like, you know, do, do, do, do, do,
do, do, do, okay, we're good.
Oh, this thing doesn't make any sense.
Just let's just throw it on a vendor and, you know, they can fix it.
I didn't like a lot of that on a system standpoint, but I do think from a gameplay standpoint
They did a pretty good job of like getting the feel down and I do think that's that's very important
But it was way too much
Completely PvP was a joke
I mean it was it was a disaster as far as like power scaling and stuff
But I don't goosy you played a lot of sod and I think you played a good bit of sod too. Didn't you?
Up until like I played all the way through to level 50. I didn't play 60 though. Okay, so I missed the good
I mean I recently did like a SAAT project where we like did like a SAAT fresh essentially like a community event and I
Think I think SAAT overall was a big big success for what it was like
They did a lot of really really good things against it was it was a seasonal thing and it's been I guess very clearly stated
That SAAT was like a very much of a testing ground
For what can we do? How much can we do? What's too much? What's too little?
To some SAAT up for me. I think phase one was incredibly good
phase two as well. Then we got with the incursions that got way too much and
that some of the features just became way too abundant and way too fast and
quick and so many power scaling and the creep is going crazy. The things that
they did really well in terms of the endgame content I think was some of the
the new things we saw like the quest chains that they did, the class quests,
the conch suit challenge in Silitha's.
Demonfall Canyon, it's an okay dungeon.
I love Karosan, fantastic design.
Scott and Enclave,
can talk anything you want about the power creep
and the damage numbers, but fundamentally,
the rate itself feels grounded in what vanilla is,
and it feels like it's a big new rate
that could make sense in the world.
So I think it showed that they are able to make
make really interesting and good content
that still makes sense for vanilla.
Again, they went way too far with the class design
for my personal taste, with the runes and the systems
and all that stuff, but-
The damage was just crazy.
Yeah, it was insane, but a lot of the new quests
that they did, a lot of the new challenges
and all of the dungeons and the raids,
I think they were really great.
They were just fun.
So overall, I think a lot of the dungeon design
and that sounds like rates, that was great, but Power Creek and a lot of the systems were
not so good.
You know, you know, you know what I want to see out of sod or sorry, out of classic
plus out of Waferever.
I want to see them do sod justice and what do I mean by that?
Like I said, there were some things that I really didn't like about sod on a system standpoint,
Man, Scarlet Enclave, for what they had to work with,
they did a good job.
Pairs and Crips, for what they had to work with,
they did a good job.
But you can tell when you're in there, dude,
these guys were, hey, I don't know who was put
in the sod together.
I don't know if Agrin was just sitting in a closet
with two other guys and just building this thing out
and they had no team or anything.
They were obviously copy-pasting assets from like this
and trying to kit bash stuff together
and just make something work.
And it's like, dude, give them a full team,
give them full support, give us a,
I mean, and like I said,
Scarlet Enclave for what it was, was great.
But man, imagine what they can do
with having the full support of the WoW team.
Instead of just, hey, this is like a,
it was almost like an officially-
Action private server, yeah.
Yeah.
It was literally like they just threw it together,
they managed to make it work, but it was still so fun.
So man, imagine a fully fleshed out drawout thing,
which wasn't just like reusing old assets
or even taking old assets and then building on them.
Because man, I think they really had some good ideas
with Scarlet Enclave, with Keras and Crips.
It felt like vanilla, but it also felt like,
it felt like a private server
and it was just they were using different assets
and stuff like that.
So if you give them like the full support,
you give them the keys, let them drive the car.
I think we could see some really cool stuff.
I would like to see them bring back Scarlet Enclave.
I would like to see them bring back Keras and Crips,
but it's not the same version we got in SOD.
It's one that has the proper support
of having an art team behind it.
You have people that can design encounters
and stuff like that.
It's not just whoever was working.
I don't know, I have no idea actually.
If it was just like a handful of guys just working on SOD.
Anyway, that's my opinion, that's my thought.
Yeah, do you guys remember when like SOD was coming out
like Cataclysm launched and they like completely stopped updating Sod for like
three weeks and then they come back and they're like we're back at Sod guys and
then the new patch drops and they disappear like it's very clear like they
were spread super thin like from from my perspective as just a general wow and
joy or like yeah so I'm really excited to see their their full power level you
know fully unleashed and supported yeah yeah I think I think you guys covered
all the points that saw it. I don't think I need to say anything else.
Yeah, you guys said power level specifically. Yeah. Yeah.
Cause did you play a whole lot of sod? I don't remember. Nope.
Didn't play. It was a very busy time. Yeah, I'm pretty sure not to think about it.
Yeah. We're not to remember anything from that time.
Busy man, busy man. So anyways, I think on that note,
I think that's enough Q and A. We went a little bit over time from,
from what we were, what we were expecting when a few minutes over. But guys,
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I mean, if you guys have ever gotten a chance to watch one of our, he streamed years ago,
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that's good there's a lot of fun great to see you guys and ompie is great to meet you and yeah see
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Yeah, it's fun little reunion episode.
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I think it was a super good one.
It went a little long, sorry.
Yeah, I think we want to try and typically keep it
to like two hours.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah, see you guys.
Yeah, we'll talk more about like classic ass stuff later.
And I want to get like an intro made with our characters
and stuff that we made and all that stuff.
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How'd you guys like classic gas today?
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Chad, what do you guys think of the show today?
You know, man, I gotta think of a way.
This is I'll give you guys a little bit of my own personal feedback for myself
It's hard because I'm I'm like playing producer and hosting at the same time
So it's like I'm doing stuff so it's like I'm kind of like all over the place
I'm listening. I'm paying attention and I'm responding but like I just I feel like I gotta I gotta find a way to address that you know
Yeah, it's like a
I don't know, maybe it'll be easier
whenever we have the podcast a little bit more fleshed out.
Doing it, because we're starting out doing it,
kind of like how we used to do it in the past,
but maybe there's a better way to do it.
Because I had all of our topics list and stuff
and everybody kind of brings in like, oh, we should do this.
I got landed in classic after in the beta so here's here's my long-term plans for classic
ass my long-term plans for classic ass is I want to be like a recurring thing because
I think that's something that we made a mistake on last time around whenever whenever classic
came out.
Oh, game music is loud.
Oh, that's why it was so loud earlier.
Yeah, well, no, like we had, we have like our list of topics and everything we're going
to talk about today, which is great.
I'm sorry, I have a cough drop.
Dude, I don't like the road, it's been like, uh-uh.
Early on, everybody's brain, even on the podcast,
think of it a lot due to it being so early and why
forever structure is nice, but this early,
it won't make a break.
Yeah, I mean, I think it's structure-wise,
I think it's pretty okay so far.
You can see it through the TV, it's a real TV.
through the hair. Guys, why do you guys think the dark portal is fake? Guys, why do you
You guys think it's fake?
Obviously, it's not a green screen, okay?
Because if it was a green screen, then it would be green.
Then this would disappear, okay?
Yes, I pulled the McChicken out of there.
So obviously it's not a green screen.
It's not a blue screen, okay?
Walk through it then.
Oh, okay, you think, oh, you think I can't walk through it?
It's not a red screen.
Oh, I'm showing a little bit too much light.
It's not a red screen.
Guys, I could walk through it if I wanted to, okay?
If I wanted to, I just don't feel like it, but if I wanted to, I could easily walk through
it.
Easily.
Oh, my.
Guys, guys, don't believe me, really.
A real paladin will walk through it.
Okay, you guys are freaking...
Unbelievable. You guys are insane. To doubt me, that's crazy.
How are you going to... How are you going to doubt?
Okay, unbelievable, how those outlands, I got to the loading screen and then it didn't
actually let me go through because it's closed in Classic Plus.
Linux kernel, thank you for the 10 gifted.
you another 10 gifted from Linux kernel here let me unpause the other one
repounded yeah that is true
let's cast cast
The lack of full support for shaman tank is 5 months of this game, and they made it.
She is.
Clash of the Galaxy is awesome.
To have a shaman who wants to watch Pali raid tank spots.
Movax, thank you.
I need this morning you are big.
It's not blue.
It's a style, new raids, new sets bonuses, same power.
Asphand's the number one rep paladin.
Yeah, that is true.
Yeah, I have headphones on, I can't even hear anything, my headphones ran out of...
Well, the original scrap version of Hellfire was like really scuffed, right?
I'm pretty sure.
You're playing a run Dungeons & Emeralds today.
Yeah I want to hit level 20 on my Alliance Paladin.
Play some rent, explain the seal to us.
Oh you know what?
I think that's the number one rep paladin.
I did want to talk about that a little bit.
Yeah that is true.
Yeah I did want to talk about it a little bit.
Uh, winning by scuffed.
Uh, I think that's the number one rep paladin.
Yeah, that is true.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Okay, I didn't realize dude, my alerts were just rolling.
Thank you guys for all the subs, man.
Thank you guys for coming to the YouTube channel as well.
The Classic Ass YouTube channel has,
I need to find a way to download a YouTube video.
Is there like a way that I can just download
a full quality YouTube video that you guys know?
Are you trying to join me yet?
No, but I will.
My goal, my goal is to get everything.
I want to level every class to level 20 at least
to really have like a level of expertise
on all the starting areas.
I say level of a class, level of every starting zone.
To level 20 at least, to get like a degree of expertise,
you know, like have some knowledge
behind what I'm talking about
whenever I'm giving feedback.
Because I think there's two things.
With YouTube Premium you can, but can I download the file?
I need to just straight up download the file, basically.
Let me see if I can do this, because I need to repost it on the other channel.
If I go to studio, okay, let's change our music up, big playlist, S-fans, big playlists
on Spotify.
Dude, I'm so happy to be doing classic ass with guzzoo and amputee and I know I mentioned
all the time, but I think, literally, they're perfect guys, it's so great.
Yeah, I'm really glad they agreed to bring it back with me.
how do you download? Oh, download. Download. Email.
Okay. Yeah, I found it actually. I found it. Okay, cool. So, great episode of Classic
Cast today. Let me tell you guys what the long term plans are for Classic Cast, because
I didn't actually finish talking about that because I got distracted by the dark portal.
So long-term plans for Classic Ast, I think having this thing go is a mistake that I think
we made before where we didn't keep the podcast going after launch.
So I think it's something that I want to kind of full send into and have set up, cuz it
doesn't always have to be about Classic WoW either.
i think it's time goes on will have more times we're talking about like
we're talking other games and stuff like that so
uh... i think it's i think it's really good
more crono trigger actually do crono trigger so good it really is
okay okay hello here we are oh yeah uh no that's cool let's give her that yeah um
Dude, I would love to be able to do it like in person too, I think I'd be right.
Oh yeah, kick ass waffer, chop's true.
Are you gonna keep the podcast going after lunch?
Speaking of lunch, I probably do need lunch at some point.
But yeah.
Does the undead passive touch of the grave do a set amount of damage or caps of 5%?
I think it's up to 5%.
It's not quite as good as I thought it was gonna be so far.
I was really worried about it being too good.
I was worried about it being too good.
But so far I think it's good.
Unoriginal dog shit, like they're overpowered dog shit or
like bad dog shit.
I
Was upset yesterday roll the planet for the GTA VIR P going to be epic. Hold on wait actually hold on
Wait, so what is what is going on?
Why
All right fine like I'm only doing it if they do the change that's it that's all
if that's the only reason why if I swear to God do if they're not I am not
rolling there's no way because it's cheap report like people are having too
much I can't son here I'm let me call pale I'm gonna go pale
I do it. I need to choose the name. I need to choose it, though, ever.
I need this more than you, I think.
I'm, I'm calling him.
He wants officer, but what is he upset about?
I
Mean it's only I could choose it but because who I swear I need to choose it. I need to choose it myself
What okay, it's gonna be like
It's what is it be upset on my goodness the picture podcast. Sorry. I'm busy. Tell him I'm busy. I'm busy as then sorry
Okay, there's wide hard to any gifters wide hard to
I mean, there's nothing to be upset about T for he thank you for the thank you for the
I give it. Thank you to you. Griever. Thank you for the 16 months. What is the unbelievable?
Thank you to you for the three months as well. We didn't even give all the details yet. We
haven't even given all the details. I submitted my pecker for checking as Esfand requested
And not only did I get a beta key, he's giving me the guild rank of humongous.
Submit yours today.
That's not true, that's not true.
Sorry, no no no no.
Tell him I'm busy, I'm doing a thing, I'm buggering the l-
Yeah, that was so.
I'm doing my quest.
No, no, no, sorry, I'm really busy now.
Alright, we talk to tip start, I'm pissed.
Pick up now.
Wait, you will leave us?
But I don't want to leave you guys.
Dude!
That was crazy.
As then I'm not happy my little piece of shit. Oh
Offstream tonight with with himself PPC
No, just call me right now. I am literally not we're holding if everyone is rolling at the same time
Sounds good
I'm dead serious
Call him I'm tired. You're bro. You know myself, bro. I'm having our time to interact with me just more than you are
game I have what season okay and that's I swear I'm right now I'm known you for
10 years I need a break of like 30 I'm dead serious I'm not even trying to be
funny it sounds good all right so him give me 30 minutes call me come in 20
minutes your bro Tom Cruise could call me I wouldn't answer do you understand
What I'm trying to say I have a tis shot the fucker
Cuz I think we haven't even given the details yet
All right
I don't
Okay, whatever, I mean, I like the thing is, all right, yeah, how often do you dive through
the portal a day?
I mean, these days I never go through the portal because you know, it's classic plus.
Yeah, okay, let's go ahead and load up the game.
By the way, guys, we have drops for Rust.
I mean, I don't know.
My thing is, I'm trying to be a friend here and just be like, hey, don't crash out on
stream about it.
Let's just keep, because we haven't even announced all the details yet.
I'm like, something that you're upset about has either probably been already addressed
and we just haven't announced all the details.
I'm just kind of like, we announced it, we like teased it today, right?
But I just logged in and Bringer said, you got to relax, just be calm, you know.
I got to react to the Watt Forever podcast.
I will probably later, because I do want to do, I sent you a goal on TVZ, thanks dude.
I
It's gonna be on PvP real set. Yeah, it's gonna be on PvP real set wide hard to any gifters wide hard to
Von Dunges thank you for the 20 gifted subs rainy thank you for the 30 months
Well, it's like the thing is like it's not worth getting upset right it's not it's not worth getting upset cuz it's like you don't oh
My gosh, she's doing the he's doing the he's doing the classic anything. It's us
We're getting upset about stuff. We don't even know what you know about yet. Frick at level 60. We do the same thing
The same thing Rick we do that all the time
No, I that's why I'm like you just just give me a call and I can at least like calm me down a little bit
But I told him to call me in 20 minutes
I suck only stories are a lot under pounds anyone usually I'll just be like hey like I I just mask and everybody didn't bite
Was a draw it's not even drama. It's just
Beos bears just like upset
like you just relax. It's okay.
It was French Canadian.
Dad, is that you? Yes, it's me.
Why not do both acts of simultaneously entering history in duals, one fact or something like that?
So, the reason why is there were some problems with the logistics behind it, and I don't want
to go into it too much because even I don't understand it quite well.
It's something that they try, like tips try to do it in a tournament in the past, and
it's on like Blizzard's end of how being able to see when duals start and whatever,
and you can't be in a group with Horton Alliance at the same time if you're like the spectator
view.
So hopefully that's something that they can fix for us because I think that would be really
cool.
But yeah, regardless.
I have the perfect solution to the linear progression problem.
What do you think?
Are you doing Dungeon of Emerald?
Oh yeah, later.
So I have drops for Rust.
Yeah, I have drops for Rust.
exclusive drops of your if you're a rust player
uh...
you know like uh... if you're if you're like a jeff camplin five thousand hours
in rust andy
then uh... yeah
so we uh... we have we have a special exclusive drops of rust so i'm gonna play
rust
you know a little bit every day
uh...
during the event to to make sure that you guys can get your drops and stuff
for it is played
I have 7k, thank you. Oh, there you go
No, thanks, I value I say any true
So, by the way, I'm level 14 on my Hunter so far.
Later tonight, we're going to do Rust for a few hours and then I'm going to switch back
to WoW and I think I'm going to hit level 20 tonight.
Do you do SOR first or SOC?
So you want to judge Crusader and then you get the spell power buff on the target and
then you see the righteousness, but only if you're going to kill them, only if it's going
to take you longer than like 10 seconds to kill them.
That's fancy number one rep out in. Yeah, that is true. Oh, actually, you know what?
We need to go to Auburn in. So I think the server is going to open up soon. So we might
do that pretty pretty early here. But one thing I wanted to talk about some more wild
stuff today because I didn't I didn't get to do this proper last night. Twitter.com.
Um, praying, thank you for the 83 months.
Thank you, dude.
I'm loading, I'm loading this guy up.
Where'd it go?
Okay, so let's talk about this
Yo, what's up a colleague? How you doing? Excellent your point dark portal frugal made it
Bro sick dark portal behind you who made it dude. Hope you're good man. Thank you for the 45 months, dude
So let's talk about this. So let's talk about this real quick. I do want to do Taylor Decker
place wow does he shut him on
wait what the hell Taylor Decker plays wow since 2005
Playing ProT Warrior right now on TBC.
2018 S-Managers are having a great time today, true Minnesota LG.
Oh.
Wait, he plays a horn?
Well, I play a horn on Burning Grzad.
Is my gladiator as Fandina?
Check the end. I'm gonna message him
Um, you probably have no idea who I am.
That's funny, I just messaged him.
Oh, he's here.
Wait.
Is he in chat?
He's trolling.
Dude, that's crazy.
He's not in chat.
controlling
Which had to have one of your Taylor Decker the classic has already happened it did let me change the title actually yeah, we just ended
Yeah, cool, but yeah, well, we're gonna post it on that on that YouTube channel, yeah.
Very cool.
Yeah, those of you guys who don't know who Taylor Decker is, he's a, he's like a, he's
like a big time offensive tackle played for the Lions went to Ohio State I think I think
you got I think you got drafted and Ohio State was like a big time prospect coming out of
college big time recruit obviously pretty sure he I'm pretty sure it's big time but
but yeah so kind of cool actually yeah kind of cool I think you played I think played
of the lines like 10 years. I have no idea. Yeah. Ohio State. Yeah. And I'm pretty, I'm
pretty sure it was like, like he's been, he was big time coming out of high school. I'm
pretty sure. Um,
no, Ohio State, not the lines.
Why are we pretending retail to his classic plus? I don't think so. Like, dude, I'm,
I'm like a very aggressive about, you know, classic wow and classic things.
I don't think that, you know
Anyway, let's get the dark shore
It's I mean it's nothing like if you've played retail wow, it's nothing like retail really
I've been questioning about classic plus progression because I'm fine top it fascinating a team question a discussion like that
I need you guys don't podcast me not
No, of course, I mean that's that's why I'm here, right?
Oh, I also want to talk about that tweet because I do want to I want to do that for a YouTube video before we before we go
Because they're adding chapters. Yeah, I need to get somebody to manage that YouTube channel
I'm doing is fake I don't think so
I'll do it smile I I have
I've had some people reach out, like send emails and stuff.
I just have to go through everything.
I should have been so busy, you know?
I've been living in a desert for you back, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I gotta go through.
I haven't even had time to go look at every,
or whoops, I'm on the other way.
I'm so not used to that strong wind harbor being here.
So I automatically was like,
I need to travel someone to the tram.
The time we're playing Rust today, if you look at the schedule on Twitch, or you can
type schedule.sfan.tv, or you can go to my Twitch schedule, twitch.tv.sfan.tv.slashschedule.
It should say two o'clock central.
So we're going to do that.
We might not do it for four hours, but we'll do it for a couple names.
A couple names, a couple hours.
Stan's dad is a great name.
Yeah, thanks.
Stan's dad.
I wanted Randy Marsh, but it was taken.
So somebody else got the idea before me.
Yeah, I think that's quite appreciate it, man.
Yeah, actually, you know what?
Let's go ahead and talk about that tweet now.
We'll be doing a couple of hours of rust a day, actually.
Yeah, we can go ahead and go to the rest section, but I'm going to talk about this
Wow Stuff for a YouTube video.
So, okay, YouTube video intro, okay, so there's a tweet that has been making the rounds a
a little bit and it's gotten a lot of traction, a lot of positivity actually behind it because
there's, I think it gives people a lot of confidence, which is great, that's the big
thing that a lot of people need.
I think overall the sentiment towards Classic Plus, wow forever, has been fairly positive.
There's obviously some feedback that's been given, some things that they need to work
on and that's the whole purpose of a beta is to really get ahead of the game and be able to communicate that and make that feedback now
Unfortunately with a lot of this feedback and a lot of this discussion that's occurring this discourse
There there's also a lot of unfortunate animosity that occurs between like you know retail players versus classic players versus who the game is made for
Before I get into this whole thing
I
Want to bullet point a few things I
I want to bullet point a few things, okay?
One, yes, absolutely, wow forever is for everybody.
It's for anybody.
Actually, you know what?
I'll take a step back.
Let me rephrase that.
Let me rephrase that.
Number one, okay, number one.
Wow, forever, it's not for everybody.
But it is for anybody.
It's not for everybody.
No game is for everybody.
If you try and make a game for everybody,
then you're gonna end up making a game for nobody.
But if you make a game for anybody,
Hey, a player that likes this, a player who might like that, a player who might like that.
That should be the goal.
And it sounds like kind of silly, but there is a very specific distinction.
Because I feel like when you make a game for everybody,
it includes all the different parts of the design and
the way that a game is built out.
And not everybody is gonna like that.
So don't make a game for everybody, make a game for anybody.
So, number one, number two, WoW Forever is Classic Plus.
It is from Blizzard's POV, right?
That is their, what their intent, the intent behind WoW Forever is to build a new MMO based
on the principles of game design from Classic Plus.
They've set this time and time, sorry, based on the principles of Classic WoW, and they've
set this time and time again, Holly announced it as Classic Plus.
said, yes, this is Classic Plus.
They've constantly talked about this in every panel, every time it's been made public, hey,
this is the deal.
This is what's happening here, okay?
And the other thing that's important to know, and this is a two-parter, just because something
was in Classic WoW, in Vanilla WoW, or Burning Crusade, doesn't mean that it was automatically
good, just because something is in a retail wow doesn't mean that it's automatically bad.
The important thing, if you're drawing from something from vanilla, if you're drawing
from something from burning crusade, if you're drawing from something from hell, I don't
give a damn.
I mean, Dragonflight, Shadowlands, Midnight, whatever it is, right?
Now, while it might be unlikely with some of the newer expansions, what's important
is if they draw something from something that wasn't vanilla or that wasn't burning
crocheted, it's not like Classic WoW directly, that it falls in line with the principles
of Classic WoW and that, like the design principles of Classic WoW and that it fits in proper.
Maybe it's modified to fit in proper.
Maybe there's something that you learn, maybe it's not a one-to-one copy, but you learn
a game design element from something that happened in retail, and you're like, okay,
let's take them, let's sort of come up with kind of a modified or a new system that actually
does fit into Classic Wow, right, for a Classic Plus.
On the flip side, let's say something was in Burning Crusade, let's say something was
in vanilla, maybe it turned out down the road that this wasn't a good decision.
Maybe it turned out down the road that this is something that wasn't actually helpful
for the long-term success of this game.
This is a very long intro for me to get into this tweet, right?
But I think it's important to lay these things out.
One, to clear up any confusion for my own sake.
Like, I mean, I just like to talk.
So I like to talk.
So I like to let people know what I think.
So that's the clear bit of confusion on how I think and how to talk about it.
But two, I also think it's important to preference these things before we go into
a post like this.
And I think it's something that people should really consider.
So anyway, with all that being said, so
I'm pausing a lot because my throat is like.
So anyway, with all that being said, let's get into this post.
Uh, corn fred, corn fred Nebraska boy, boys corn fred, I like that.
I'm seeing a lot of discourse.
I'm seeing a lot of discourse about who WoW Forever is being made for.
And while I cannot speak for anyone else on the team, I can't speak for myself.
I'm making WoW Forever for the classic gamer and for the millions of people who've had
their accounts lapsed over the years because they were not satisfied with changes that
were made to the game.
I've talked about this before, this is kind of like,
this is like my demographic.
Whether those changes were to the art style,
the story, social aspects, game design,
or changes to their favorite class,
that was really my demographic.
I did not spend the last year of my life
relearning and mastering how to do things
like we did 20 plus years ago for retail players.
I could have taken it easy and just kept doing things
like I had done for the past eight years on retail,
because I was much more familiar with it
and it actually takes a lot less time to do it.
Hype maps on testers do a ton of heavy lifting.
I'm gonna make this a little bit bigger.
Yeah, let's make this a little bit bigger easier to read.
Okay, yeah, I like that, I like that.
Because the reality is that the majority
of retail players wouldn't care
and would probably actually prefer it.
But, I felt I had a duty to uphold an artistic vision and integrity that millions of people
expect from us.
But not just for our players, but for my co-workers past and present who worked on it over 20
years ago.
If I could not create something that resembled their work, then I failed not only them, but
myself.
You know, he's talking about, you know, the Alan Adhams, the Rob Pardos, the Kevin Jordan's,
that Jeff Kaplan's, you know, more recently,
that, you know, well, I guess not quite as recently,
but more recently, Chris Kaliki, you know,
Orlando Salvatore, right?
Yeah, there's a hundred guys that you can name
that used to work that don't work there anymore, whatever,
but people that have worked on this game
and have poured into it for years and years and years, right?
Please do not take this as me throwing any shade
at retail players or the retail team,
because I am one myself,
But I want it to make forever as authentic of a vanilla experience as possible.
This involves making decisions wildly different than retail.
It means holding the line against changes that create a domino effect down the road.
It means keeping friction and inconveniences in the game.
It means finding friends and forming groups with strangers and being social.
Because while social aspects have always been the pillar of the game and over the years,
It has slowly been chiseled away at with changes that allow you to play alone.
Since the day I started working on the Riverglades, I have lived by three sings.
Is this John Riverglades?
Riverglades is, I want to do like a full exploration of Riverglades.
I need to, everybody's just talking about how good it is all the time.
Convenience is the death of the journey.
If you're making a game for everyone, then you're making it for no one.
Absolutely, we say this all the time.
change we make incurs a debt to the authenticity of the game, and sooner or later that debt
will be paid."
True.
These are my core beliefs, and I had a specific group of people I was targeting with my work.
These beliefs cannot be shaken, and I will try to hold the line against anything that
goes against them, and will continue to pester the team about things that feel out of place.
That being said, my hope is that forever will pull in as many people as possible, whether
you are a retail gamer, a classic gamer, someone who hasn't played in years or even a newer
player.
I hope you can all remember what made this game so special in the first place, and that
starts with understanding why we are so passionate about keeping it authentic.
Almost 2 million views on this tweet.
This is not his love letter to S-Fan, okay?
What I will say, stand the ovation, absolutely hits the nail on the head from top to bottom.
Unbelievable.
This right here, this is exactly the approach that people working on this game need to have.
And you can have that approach and you might try and go for the answer and you get the
wrong answer.
If the approach is correct, if you're trying to do it the right way, then hopefully everything,
hopefully you're going to hit more than you miss.
And when you miss, you're going to try and figure out a way to make it right.
I've said this before, I talk about like the classic eye, right?
When it comes to design and seeing is this classic or is this not classic, just like
looking at it like art design and stuff, right?
Like how it looks.
I talk about the kind of just really like understanding those principles and really like know what
makes classic wow, classic wow.
And look, retail wow, it's great in its own right.
There's tons of things that are great about retail, but it is a completely different MMO
at this point.
It is.
It has the same classes.
Well, the names of the classes that are the same are like the same, but they don't play
the same.
They don't look the same.
The game doesn't operate in the same way that it did.
But man, it absolutely hits the nail on the head
with the way that every single person,
I hope every single person working on this game
is looking at it.
And I think having somebody tweet this out
and having somebody just be like, you know what?
This discourse is so stupid.
And I'm just going to come out and I'm just going to say it.
And just lay it all out there.
Why are people talking about this?
Why are people talking about that?
To me, that's like a big vote of confidence.
Because this is music to my ears.
Everything, everything in this post
is exactly how I feel about the way
that they need to approach the game.
And it's why I have much more confidence today
than I had months ago, than I had years ago,
Then I had whenever I quit, wow, and I was that guy who vanilla loved it,
Bernadette Crusader loved it even more.
Wrath comes out, my class feels completely different.
I get it, pal is where we're powered, but it's not the same.
I don't care about a class being overpowered, I care about the class feeling right.
I feel like I care about it feeling like I'm playing the game that I played, right?
Playing the class that I wanted to resonate with me.
Come back at the end, kind of mess around a little bit
and wrath, leave, I've told the story a hundred times,
but by the time I came back in cataclysm,
I was like, it is over, right?
This is not my class, nothing is the same, okay?
And I think the target audience for this game,
you're gonna have classic wild players
that are gonna try it,
you're gonna have retail wild players that are gonna try it.
But what you need to do is you need to find
that demographic of person that quit all those years ago,
why did they quit?
And you find a way to take what you have now,
to take in retail, you take what you have now in classic,
and you find a way to smooth this gap over
and draw from the points of failure
that the game had for the people that quit 10, 15 years ago.
I said 10 years ago, it's more like 15 years ago
this point, but that is absolutely the way they need to approach it.
That is the way that he has said, specifically, he has looked at.
He's like, it would be way easier to just do things like I was already doing it.
This guy's been working on retail for eight years.
For eight years, this guy's been working on retail.
And he's like, look, if we're gonna do this thing right, we gotta go study, figure it out.
How did they do things?
I mean, this guy's a riverbillard guy.
How did they make the models in classic?
How did they make the textures?
You know, literally the same sort of techniques and finding out maybe some new ways of emulating
that or maybe even making them the same exact way.
But that's how you learn.
So for me, I mean, this is like, I love talking to game devs.
You know, I've been so fortunate to get a chance to talk to a lot of game devs over
the years. And guys who I have like the utmost respect for, whether it's, I mean, whether
it's like a Mike Moerheim or more, you know, I talked about Kevin Jordan, I talked about
Jeff Kaplan, you know, that was a big deal on stream. Jeff Kaplan came and we were playing
his new game together and, but all these guys, right? There's tons, tons of guys that we've
gotten a chance to talk to. And I feel so fortunate to be in that situation because
more than anything. I love to learn from these people. I love to learn from these people.
I mean, these guys are so smart. They're so experienced. They have so much wisdom. And
in a different sort of way, I think approaching it like he said, and that's been the last
you're in my life relining a master how to do things like we did 20 plus years ago for
no reason.
I like I think this is a cool thing like let's go learn from the previous generation let's
go learn from people who've been through this whole dog and pony show and and find out what
you can apply to the future.
Now I'm not I'm not a game developer but I do own a publishing company that I'm that
I'm involved in, right?
I don't know if I'm coming to them, I'm very involved in.
So it's like, it's so important to me
whenever I'm around people like that
to like just be like a sponge.
Weird flex, unbelievable.
My point is like, I'm,
my point is is to be able to respect what's already there.
And this is like with everything in life.
And learn from it, draw from it, and maybe, maybe tread a new path.
But you don't throw away what you already knew.
That's what I think is important.
So anyway, this gives me an unbelievable amount of confidence for the future.
I hope that everybody that works on this game thinks about it like this.
I hope, this should be like the standard.
It should be the way that you think about things.
Look, retail is great.
We work on retail.
We do retail stuff.
That's fine.
But for this game, we need to learn what made it work.
We gotta figure out the sauce,
and then you gotta administer the sauce.
We got the recipe.
Let's administer it the right way.
So anyway, thank you guys so much for watching today.
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Okay, guys, so we're going to play a little bit of rust because we got exclusive rust
Yeah, we got exclusive rust drops.
What kind of talent would you like to see instead of twist of light?
I mean, I think of twist of light made it exactly like a burning crusade.
Twisting, I think it'd be great.
Hello.
Is that why forever memes?
Yeah.
Oh, there it is.
Yep, Sukha, there it is.
Yeah, income the Russians.
Holy, where?
Dude, it's Roy Salter.
way dude it's a Roy Salter
okay I found this on the web for his Roy Salter check it out
but I wasn't talking to you idiot
dude the legend himself Roy Salter dude
Holy! What a legend.
Wow.
Wow.
Which was Roy Salter.
Roy Salter was like a random,
this happened like at TwitchCon three years ago, I think.
We were in Las Vegas and we're going to like
Hibachi something with some people
and we're live streaming and whenever we're there,
there's like some guys, they're like Italian guys.
Hey, guys, fun.
Great fun, guys.
And content today.
Just wondering where the channel pod redeem
for feet cam is, thanks.
We don't have a channel point redeem for feet cam.
Cinema Roy Salter.
So what happened was Roy Salter,
Roy Salter is there like, do you like, do you know who's like,
they looked like they were like pretty wealthy guys
with like Jersey accents.
So they're asking us about like streaming and stuff.
And they're like, do you know who this guy is?
And he was like, no, no, no, no, don't tell him, don't tell him.
And like, dude, this is Roy Salter.
And we had no idea who Roy Salter is.
But chat is like, oh, Roy Salter.
But they had no idea who Roy Salter is.
So we were like, oh man, Roy Salter.
So Roy Salter just became a meme.
Yeah, Roy Salter just became a meme for years.
It's like, oh, shit, it's Roy Salter.
Yeah.
This is serious.
Yeah, it was a funny time.
It was a funny time.
You were asking for a link to the Classic Asch Channel.
It is right here.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a link to the Classic Asch Channel.
Yeah, link to the Classic Channel, right?
There, Classic Asch Channel, right there.
Who's Roy Salter, actually?
I have no idea.
I think they were trying to troll us and then we just played along because we thought it
was funny.
Is the Rust server up?
Also Emeru messaged me and she said she forgot she had some stuff going on today.
So I'll probably hold on finishing the paladin tonight.
She thinks she has to run errands or something, I don't know.
But she forgot she had stuff she had to do.
Yeah, classic, I know, I know, that's what happens.
But we're gonna, you move here to go?
Yeah, dude.
Yeah, she left for milk and cigarettes.
Yeah, left for milk and cigarettes.
It's over.
No, but she just forgot she had some stuff that she had to do today, so it's fine.
We can probably, we'll probably finish the paling tomorrow then.
That's great because now you can start the other one.
Do you remember what the apostrophe thing on Guild Name's meant?
It's apparently you're not on the server of your guild.
I brought that up to them, one silver to jump, but no, oh, she lived.
Chat, do you guys see the Rust stuff?
Do you guys see the Rust drops?
Are they active?
I'm gonna join the Discord server
to see if anybody just hops in here and talks to me.
I'm almost done with your drop because we've been sitting in the category that we've done.
So I guess the drop is only for one hour.
So we're probably, yeah, I think I just crashed you.
Are you going to RP Cornwood?
I think we should.
I'm sorry.
funny. Yeah, I do that clip is so funny.
Wait, what happened?
Oh, hey.
Don't worry about here for now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thank you.
Sorry?
Yeah, we can do my room.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
The cleaning.
Uh, yeah, we can do my room.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
You're cleaning.
You're gonna polish your nail on if you're meant to be?
Uh-huh.
I just thought it was funny.
I thought I'd just join it.
Yeah, server got shut down.
It's still funny.
Hello.
Hi.
Yeah.
I mean, I was just like, whatever, I'll just join this channel and see if anybody joins.
Right.
Let's see how many people we can get in here then.
Wait.
So like, what do you do?
Like, what's your job?
Uh, I don't work for the server.
I just saw you in here and I was like, Hey, no, but like in general.
Oh, I'm just, I'm full time.
Full time what?
One of those cringy little anime girls on the internet the vTubers. Oh, okay. Yeah, so how did you get that job?
Kind of fell into it. Okay sick. Yeah
How about you? What do you do? I?
Do like adult content like adult online meal entertainer
Whoa, really? I've never met one of those before. Yeah. Yes
I do I'm a male who entertains other adults online. Wait, do you oh my god, you do the gay stuff?
No, no, I'm just a guy that tries to entertain people on the internet
It's not sexual
But mostly like adults like as I would say the target audience is people over the age 18
You sure I think so
Sounds like gay stuff to me. I
Mean it depends. There's nothing wrong with that. I myself am pretty gay. So yeah
Well, I'm not, but I've been told I would do really well for myself.
Yeah, I could see that, yeah.
Yeah, but unfortunately, I'm not doing well for myself.
Oh, you should probably advertise a little bit better.
I think you could do pretty well.
Maybe like, because like, wait, wait, don't you like partially own one of those like computer companies?
I
Do I do let me let me remember what the name is yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotta let me let me check my business card
Okay, it's a star frog. No star forge
Sister all the one that looks like a penis right? Yeah, it does not look like it's a hammer
Okay, sure. It is a hammer
So anyways, my idea is you could slip in like your only fans like like a QR code.
No, I don't do that.
In every PC?
No, it's only fans with a D.
Oh.
Grass fans.
But it's not, it's, I don't do, I do adult, I do content for adults.
It sounds like only fans to me.
Uh, no, that's different
How do uh, is the server up?
It's whitelisted for certain people. I tried to connect a minute ago, but I don't think it's up for me
It might be up for like, you know
distinguished gentlemen such as yourself though
Yeah. Um, it might, it might be only up for like some of the, uh, like the, like the leaders
of the kingdoms. You know what I mean? Let's see.
I think, let me see this.
I thought they already had it.
Yo is Fand.
Speaking of adult content, I posted my penis in the Pekka Checker channel.
You haven't rated mine yet though.
Will you get to this segment today?
I really want to win the Fricka Fan Contest.
Wait, is that one more time?
Did you get the code thing so you just hit the button?
Uh, wait, what did I do?
Oh, like the IP?
Yeah.
And then when you paste that into the console, you just hit that button at the very start.
That it says.
I
Hello, what do you wait parblades? What do you do? What's your job?
Sick
just helping them connect. I just randomly joined because I was like, you know, why not?
Why not just join?
Yeah, I joined the warning that he was in a public channel and he was like, you know,
fuck it. I like, I do adult content. I don't care.
Well, I do content for adults. Yeah, I don't think anybody will really do anything
here. It's not like you're in a random server. You know what I mean?
No, but there is a pretty wide net of people in here. So you never know.
Most of which hate each other right? Yeah. Oh, I'm I mean, yeah for if if we're in the RP already
Yeah, oh
I was talking out of RP. I mean, I just hate everybody
Yeah, I think that's how it goes
Instacart drivers Jesus
Oh, you know how it is
So yeah, as soon as telling us about his only fans and how he has like a
a company with a penis logo or something.
No, I did not say that.
It's a hammer, it's a hammer,
and it's only fans with a D.
I'm confused, I don't understand.
So the D is a-
I'm not going to do that live, so-
Yeah, the D, I'm going to be fans.
I get it, you can't talk about it.
So, all right.
Because S-Fan.
Ah, interesting.
Wait, so you started your own only fans?
Oh, only S-Fan. I get it.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
What's up?
Hello.
Hey, what do you do with your job?
Just stream. It's awesome. It's like the nice for everyone in here. How did you how did you get
that job? I got laid off. I started streaming as a bucket. It's awesome man. Sick. I found
was just talking about his only fans. Yeah, that's big. I'm happy for you or whatever. Yeah. No,
No, I don't do all my fans.
Wait, do you do pictures or videos inside of your judgment cosplay?
You know what?
I should have taken proper pictures.
I have some random pictures, but I don't have problems.
That sounds like you're only fans.
No, I don't have an only fans.
Oh.
I mean, if you're like embarrassed, though, it's okay.
No, I, it's not embarrassment.
stolen Valor. I don't want to steal the Valor. I mean, I would steal Valor, but only if like I
needed the gear, but the other kind of Valor I would steal.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Haven't you stolen Valor before? I think I've seen that.
No, but I put myself in a position to where that I'm going to make sure that I'm going to get the Valor.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's got like 40 attack power if you get, you know, four pieces or whatever.
whatever. Oh, that's cool. What if you don't get the pieces though?
That's pretty good. Oh, even don't get it all. Well, then I'll just I'll probably wear
light forage.
Interesting. But then you can't say stolen light forage. It doesn't like roll off the
tongue as well. Well, no, that's my that is cool. Well, that's my birthright. So it'd be
stolen. Oh, okay. You're born into a cold. Wait, what are you? What are you rolling?
obviously paladin but like um probably human probably human human male toxic human male paladin
i'll say it i'm a horde player i always have it don't ever talk to me again for the horde
no actually i'm playing horde and burning for shed right now that's pretty cool that'll be you
you. But only because only because I need the blood
elves for for arenas. I'm going to I'm not like this again.
I'm going to I'm going to spurg out because I'm also I think he
Ape said he is like rolling him on slowly or something.
Yeah. Everybody's like 10 minutes.
Give it like 10 minutes. I've given it nine.
Give it nine. One more. One more.
I'm going to load up. Wow. I'm waiting because I'm addicted to classic plus. Oh, yeah. You
mean you mean you mean wow forever, right? I love forever. It's pretty good. The name
is bad though. Somebody point out. So somebody point out the reason they don't like the name
that much is because if you look at all of the logos and all of the World Warcrafts,
Wow Forever is the only one where they emphasize forever over Warcraft.
True, but I should like the logo. I don't, I just don't like saying it because it doesn't,
it doesn't sound like, it doesn't sound like a game, it sounds like a prison.
like oh I'm playing wow forever when you haven't played well forever though no I
quit I quit a long time ago I quit for all the bad news I only played well when
it was good but you played you played even for you on the last time it's 2019 right
you said the bad no I didn't know I didn't I didn't mean I didn't mean wow for
like five years I like the last before this year I wasn't playing well very
much for like after 21. No, I guess 22. So it was like four years. Chat. What did, what
did burning crusade come out? Or sorry, when did, when did wrath come out? 22? I think.
Oh, I thought you quit because of retail. No, I mean, I did quit.
I started doing all that sports stuff. Yeah. Well, I was already doing that. But then I,
I just hate how much Paladin changes after burning crusade.
They are despise it really didn't like you like had it at all.
No.
I have a wrath.
Don't know.
I feel like wrath was peak rep Paladin.
A lot of people do.
And then they went back and played wrath anniversary.
And then everyone was like, oh, I spent it was right.
To be honest here, I started playing a lot of during BFA.
So I have no idea what you're talking about.
Yeah, it's like, um, this might be a hot take, but I'd love to be F.A.
If you're amazing, if they had some good things, it's just, it's just not like my game.
Yeah. Fair enough.
BFA.
Everything after BFA sucked, though.
So the one really like tried to make us fight Jaina and stuff.
Oh, that was the other one.
that's when I quit I don't even remember shadow lands shadow lands
I think it's a man I mean you could talk shit on BFA but they had really good
cinematics
the world PDP is really fun during BFA I don't think world PDP's really been that
had fun since like flying mounts came out.
Um, wait, what?
Subnaive.
How you did?
That's sounds like some questions for you, man.
Hey, what, so what's your job?
Like what are you doing for work?
Me?
Yeah.
I, uh, manage creator.
It's awesome.
Man.
What was, was everybody asked?
What is yeah, oh, just yeah, like what the hell like and then he gets talking about his only fan, so
No, I don't do I don't do that
Why not?
I can't afford the overhead
What overhead the cameraman yes to pay I guess
But also, I'm just busy. I have a job
What's that job I do like I'm an online male entertainer for
Like I do content for adults like our audiences people that are over the age of 18. Okay
Yeah
What what platform are you on?
Twitch and
Oh
Twitter hardcore, huh and only fans. Yeah hardcore stuff. Yeah, and YouTube and kick and rumble and
and Facebook and Instagram.
Damn.
Yeah, and MySpace.
And MySpace.
Yeah, and Xanga.
What's that other one?
Mixer.
Yeah, Mixer, yeah.
Mixer, yeah.
Who is your top nine or whatever it is on MySpace?
It's just my alts, just all my alth accounts.
What do you use the alth accounts for?
like what is it like each one per
uh... i just use them to like my own post so i feel good about myself
well if you don't like them who will
the exact time is money friend that's how i look at it
that's kinda what it comes down to you
this is like the waiting room for the server
it is
Mm-hmm. Yeah
We got a gut in oh
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Don't oh come on
I'm telling you guys right now the second I get in I'm out of this place
I'm gonna
See there. No, I hear cuz you like wait. Do you have a faction yet?
I
Didn't don't but I think I'm gonna be part of the part timers
You should join the blood church
So I don't know if there is a blood church. I'll be honest has to be a blood church dude. What?
There's something but I don't think the good god
Yes, sir said he's out I think will also said he's like not
Father baby Billy
There is some weird things going on and I don't know what it is but
Yeah, I'm probably only gonna be able to play a few hours a day because the timing of everything ended up everything kind of blew up in my face
Everything's happening at the same time
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I
Have wow I have a g-tarp and I have
rust
roleplay
I guess playing rust is that what you guys are gonna do
Oh yeah. No, I'm just in here to AFK.
Oh, sick.
I'm typically a Tarkov player, but it's a nice break when servers like this pop up.
Yeah, I just play Cod all the time.
Yeah, I play games sometimes.
Is that part of the adult entertainment?
Yeah, sometimes it depends
What kind of adult would watch somebody play video games?
Well, it's not about the video games. I think it's mostly about the charisma
Yeah, was that again charisma I
Think you missed a letter there
I'm still missing a letter, but, you know, a little bit better server check.
Oh, I'm connecting.
Sick.
I'm in.
I'm not in.
I'm actually in sick.
All right.
I'll show you.
I'll see you bozos later. I got my first-class ticket
Game
Just randomly to seven discord channel. All right little bit of rust a little bit of rust
Well, the first Rust Isles event, the below video, introduced the, oh, I changed my YouTube
title too.
YouTube, give me a second.
Who's your daddy and what does he do?
Okay, seven minute video, watch it on stream or you slash video to rewatch.
Wait, this video introduced at the event explains my system, please watch where you started.
And now he's watching.
Welcome to Rust Isles, a world of scattered islands, shifting tides, and four civilizations
competing for control.
Is this on YouTube?
Set out to watch it from 8th game.
That's what I was worried about.
We developed everything from custom monuments in an economy to territory conquest and resource deliveries that play
Okay, I would I want to I want to watch it
Here that's why I was like
Well, that was pretty cool. They got a working game a world of scattered islands shifting
At the corners of the world
Surrounding a central hub for trade and role play wait, it looks sick across the islands
We created custom monuments and puzzles from smaller landmarks near each
Chone to a sprawling castle.
The waterways connected all.
Wait, this looks sick.
The channels around shipping routes, narrow crossings,
and places where players will meet and compete.
But those routes will change with the tide.
We built a tidal system tied to rust day and night cycle
where the routeways is influencing how high
and how low the water reaches.
As the sea recedes, land emerges and passages narrow, and open stretch of water can become
a choke point, changing how players travel and where they fight.
Exploring those islands feeds into a custom economy.
We develop tiers of resources and tools, with different materials spread across-
Where the fuck?
Players dig up fragments, process them into ingots, and mint those ingots into coins.
Custom traders and forges connect each stage, taking players between locations as they work their way up.
Higher tier tools give access to new materials, while an encumbered system limits how much players can carry in one trip.
Coins can then be stored for safekeeping or deposited into a civilization's vault, helping fund its next upgrades.
Each of the four civilizations progress independently.
Reconnected, questing, and custom objectives to town hall upgrades.
With discoveries and...
Dan's game!
This isn't World of Warcraft!
Those upgrades unlock new ages, giving each house control over its own pace and development.
We have exclusive drops for it, we're gonna do this for a little bit.
The new house civilization are limited to the lowest age reached by any of the four
houses.
I'll play it a couple hours.
One civilization might be re-evaluated into its next aim for another.
still gathers what it needs to catch up and then it's okay because I love 20 in the beta anyway but
I do want to do a lot more wow stuff don't worry.
Making each house's borders visible in the world. Claims connect outward from their home,
using coins to purchase land and pay its upkeep. Town hall upgrades allow further expansion
and ownership determines who can build within each territory. Our custom map interface brings
together, showing every civilization's claims alongside the tools to purchase and manage land.
Eight beacons give civilizations another way to expand.
We built them as positions players can capture and fortify.
Civilizations raid their way inside, activate the beacon, and fight for control of the surrounding
zone. Taking the beacon plant's territory, space to build defenses, and a forward respawn point.
We also developed a respawn interface where players can spend provisions to return with equipment.
Upgrading the beacon unlocks stronger kit options.
The more a civilization puts into a beacon, the more it has to defend when another house attacks.
Beacons also produce resources, getting them home is part of the challenge.
We developed an NPC courier system that transports those resources to the owning civilization's vault.
Using custom pathfinding, the courier travels over land, takes to the water, and delivers its cargo.
Other players can intercept the shipment, kill the courier, and take everything it was carrying.
Each beacon produces a different resource, and depositing specific tees can temporarily boost its output.
That makes protecting the delivery route just as valuable as holding the beacon itself.
We also built custom events across the map.
The ship event uses procedural layouts assembled from custom modules,
changing the space players explore each time it appears.
It brings together custom items, drill components, and interactive mini-games as part of the challenge of reaching its loop.
Elsewhere, the quarry periodically switches on, producing resources for players to fight over.
A traveling trader moves across the water, bringing custom vehicles and another place
to trade.
Rust Isles introduces new vehicles, built specifically for the event, each with its
own mechanics and behaviors, not currently available in the base game.
At the Spyglass, we build something we're keeping under wraps.
Players can collect skulls and deposit them into a custom shrine, gradually filling it.
When it's full, it triggers an event.
What happens next is something we'll leave for the players to discover.
We gave the interfaces the same attention as the world around them.
Custom hand-drawn artwork carries through the menus for territory, trading, quests,
and respawning.
Each interface was designed around the system it serves, with a shared visual style that
ties it back to Rust Isles.
comes together in the same world. The tides affect travel, resources fund expansion, beacons
create supply routes that other civilizations can disrupt. We build the map, gameplay systems,
and interfaces to support those connections, and we're running the server that brings them to life.
This is Rostyle's, an event by A, built and operated by Restorium.
I
Said a whole bag of chips. Hey, that was awesome
Yeah. That was fantastic. Dude, that looked really good. Actually, munchies insane. Yeah.
The video, well, I was talking about the chips, but the video was good too.
too. Yeah, so we have exclusive drops. We have exclusive drops. Um, why do I not hear
anything. Do you guys want the rust music? You want to play my music? Thumbnails, wow,
forever. Yeah, I have to wait for the editor to change the, change the, change the thumbnail.
So the servers are down, the ClusterPlus servers are down, but also I have some exclusive drops
for this.
This is something that I agreed to literally months ago.
So I'm going to play a few hours a day to, I mean, one Rust is fun, especially when it's
like these big community events.
So they've done this over the course of the last few years, where they'll do these big
Rust community events.
Abe is kind of the guy who's in charge of everything.
And he does such a good job, man.
He does such a good job of putting in
these big community events,
and they're very fun, they're very cool.
So they've completely rebuilt an entirely new map.
That video is amazing.
Oh my gosh, this looks so good.
Look at this.
Wow.
Wow.
So, playing Jeff Cavill's favorite game.
Yeah, true.
So this ends up being the kind of thing that we're like, hey,
whenever there's a big Rust event going on,
it's always fun to play it.
And especially when you get a chance
on exclusive drops, which we have, I got a furnace.
So pretty cool.
Pretty cool things.
So we will get to play it for like a week
with these drops and stuff.
So I'll probably end up playing it like a few hours a day.
And we'll still be doing our wild stuff, obviously,
I'll probably play it a few hours a day and I really want to get back to role play too. So
You hear the neck crunch, I think those are the chips
Okay, I found some people anyway
Let's go let's go talk to the people. Hello. Hello
Hello
Hello, I'm not a fish man. Why are you naked?
Wait, why am I naked naked? What happened?
What they
I don't know. I don't know if someone must have put it on last night. I was having a lot of party party party. I don't care.
What are you doing?
No, that ain't me.
I'm not sure if I signed nothing.
I might as well try to steal you, that's all right.
Shall I be cornwitin'?
I haven't changed my name.
I
Don't know why rust doesn't let you pick your way your character looks like
They're finally going to change that towards the end of the year, really.
I should save my voice, actually, because my voice has been kind of bad lately.
I should have saved my voice.
Chat, you guys are right.
Don't clip that because it'll never say anything.
Hey, I can't hear you.
Wait, I hear you now.
You're just quieter than the people that are 20 yards away from us.
Oh, hey, hi.
Thanks.
Yeah, it's me.
I don't know where my security is, but, uh, yeah, it is I.
security security security security security security security security i'm not even know what i'm doing is
can i make my zone not naked somebody's watching this in the freaking living room or like at the
office this guy right here just came over here showing his sheets oh my god
i'm not gonna leave you you don't want to give up on that
You're beating just beating a rock on the tree guys beating a rock on the tree
We're watching right now my family reading on the 80 inch projector.
Well, that's a lot of hinges.
Why is this tree not breaking?
I
Look the tree broke
But why everybody leave
That's George W your photo I made my picture George W bush in middle school because I thought I was funny
lost over here I don't care about you or your friend who is this oh you're over
there no it's not you break hey my friend lost breath hey I don't care about
either of you guys frick both of you
Hey man, listen, should keep someone like us around, all right?
We know what we're doing on these islands, all right?
Oh yeah, well, how would you know what you're doing on these islands?
Yeah, yeah.
I've sailed the seas before, I've sailed the seas before, you know?
Oh, okay, look at me, I'm a freaking sea sailor, I'm just going to rub it in everybody's face.
Freaking jackass.
Okay, I'm sorry, you know what, you're right, I'm sorry, it came off harsh, I didn't mean
it like that.
Nobody's rubbing anything in everyone's face.
Okay, listen if you guys have a gun
No, okay, well we got to get guns and we're gonna start shooting people but only whenever
We need to
Yeah, because I don't want to shoot anybody unless we have to
now have you
the spire
well what the frick what is that
so if you take them over there's there's like kits and respawns inside of them
that's how you can get guns there
there's a water over there just take a shit in the water
What the heck wait, okay, what were you saying about spires?
That the spires is how you can get guns that's how you can get guns too. They give you guns if you take them over
Okay, well let's go. I got a rock
I don't know so much about this place. I don't got here
Okay, well he go he said he said he was born here
Yeah, I just watched on shore and I'm a woman natives
Yeah, I don't know what happened to me. Yeah, how's it going fine
Okay, so here's the thing right now first things first
I'm not I was I just watched up here this guy you said your name was lost
lost. Yeah, he's a native. I found. Good job. Oh, you got one of them casinos, don't you?
I found. Yes. Show us your casino. Yeah, the casino. Yeah, that's what I heard. I thought
all the natives had one of them casinos. I must be thinking something else. Anyway, you
would save some mr. woman yeah okay game plan okay what weapons you guys have
okay everybody grab a rock okay grab one of these rocks we're gonna go invade
the spire and get guns lost lead lead the way yeah yeah lead the way lost let's go let's go
yeah be careful going down you all right you don't want to break your legs
I would never break my legs
I got wood!
I got wood, I got wood.
I got wood, okay good good.
I got wood.
I got wood.
I got wood.
You got wood. Okay, good. Good.
That sounds like a little person.
You should make a building plan with that wood really quick
and then maybe you can build us a little ways inside.
Oh, oh, look at me. I'm freaking Bob the Builder.
Is that what it looked like to you?
Hey, you want me to do it or throw me the wood?
I'll do it. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I could do it if I wanted to.
I'm gonna make the woman build things.
That's not it. That's not it.
Consider it.
This man, I would never make you lift a finger. I hope you know that all right
All we need to do is cross the water you guys good slimmers or no
Yeah
Yeah, how's the chat how's the audio balance by the way, so the quiet or how's it?
What I like about Russ chat whenever we do rust RP and stuff is it's just like a fun opportunity to get to
play with people from a bunch of different communities.
Oh, scout it out.
We're swimming?
I'm pretty sure I'm hungry.
Wow.
What's happening here?
We can't say.
It's a top secret mission.
It's top secret. Do you want to join?
I'm not sure if these people swim.
Yeah!
All right, super top secret if anyone can just join and I'm gonna say it like it is okay guys
Don't tell anyone else about our top secret mission
All right, okay
Wow, nobody's watching no worries
Yeah, you guys want background music swimming so fast. Oh wait a minute
I love all because that's me just go skid some out and comes up with most random shit
I basically have like five like one of five
RP characters and one of them is just like anti-S-man where I'm just gonna ask
everybody and I just start like skin-toeing out. I'm just completely
stupid. Yeah, just SPS. Damn you running in the water. Wait, you're running upright. How the hell?
Yeah, that's a skill. It's talented. You're welcome for giving that to me.
Guys, I'm not actually like this. Okay, somebody has to be actually seen this
What's the video? Can you?
Spire or beacons
I'm not like this also remember give me a TVT gold truth
Welcome, welcome, good job.
Okay, so.
Wow, we made it, we made it.
Here's the game plan.
Good job.
Everybody get your magic rocks?
Okay, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Okay.
Okay, magic rock.
Okay, I'm gonna take this fire, okay,
and everybody here,
everybody put your rock over the fire
and then try and smell the rock.
Oh, oh yeah, magic rock.
I've seen people do this behind the windies
Yeah, okay, so now that you've absorbed its powers, okay now that the powers have been absorbed
We're gonna go inside the spy and we're gonna take their guns
It's a sequence of the universe unfolding before me like a woman's labia.
No one's got a chance.
Keep the rocks. You're going to need them.
Oh, there's a dog.
Kill the dog.
Kill the dog. The dog has a gun.
Shoot the dog with your rock.
The government is going to turn you through your webcam camera.
Turn it off.
Get out.
Get out.
He's running get his ass!
It's a hairy alligator look out!
Oh shit I'm going down!
No, no, my leg! Oh my penis!
The assistant.
The assistant.
Have you played a lot of Rustin? No.
I'm gonna play a lot, but not not no, I haven't
All right, well everybody died
Yeah, I had a great time on that I was great. I just love doing stupid stuff like that
It's not rocked in nothing. Yeah, that was a bad idea
Play have a hotel
I lost the group. It's fine. Let's just go make like I'm my whole mo when I'm playing
this is just to literally run around and just talk to people
A metal ore, oh my gosh.
You're rich.
There's new graphics on my forever.
They are.
They are.
We'll be right back.
I'm looking for Mr. Bosher. Um, I don't need your buddy. Have you seen the man by the name
of Bosher? Um, who? His name is Bosher. Um, look, man, I don't have any work for you,
man. He's lost. I just I don't have any work for you, man. You don't have to come back for
the quest I'm just I just don't work for you man I don't know what's going on
whatever I have work for you I'm not looking for a job man I'm happy as you
can see
$100 million dollars no I already have more than that in one oh offshore off
offshore offshore yeah is it like a specific island like maybe that
direction that million dollars yeah it is that's a crackhead that's a crackhead
No, no, no, don't talk to him.
I've made a lot of jokes about smoking crack lately.
Maybe I should stop
Now crag is not good under drugs
We're on a way trying never coming back
My ass.
We are going to try the quest.
We are dead.
I'm gonna say this Stephen.
Batty.
How do you change your name in game?
That's your steam name.
I'm going to change my steam name.
I
Chat give me a name give me him
Dickhead, okay
Bert
Four
scan. no. Bert? Bert? no. Craig? Craig? Craig? Craig?
I
Right
George George
W
George W Bush.
bush. Wait, is there really disconnect from the server without?
Leaked, George W. Crackin.
You want to have Red Bull thing next week?
Wait, what Red Bull thing is next week?
I
I
Mean
Wait, look you should be trying to go get my body back. Do you have any valuable sick?
Where did you go? Oh you're right here
I don't know where he went he's gone I don't know either.
Uspen do you know where Redify went he just poof gone.
He died.
Got lazy eyes.
He died.
Yes.
AIDS
Yeah full blown just the whole nine yards
Yep, that's what happens
Where are you going trying to find the cure
I don't know I'm trying to find it but the whole kind of question is that
You think I know where the cure for super aids is
I know you oh, hey, no wait math
What did you say
This guy can get you some meth.
That guy has meth.
Hey, yeah, this guy wants meth.
No.
I don't know.
I don't got any meth.
No, you don't want to give me a crack rock and let me change the universe.
No, that wasn't me.
It was, uh...
You let us raid on the government facility.
Yeah, I, uh...
Wait, where's my stuff?
I'll handle this.
Don't worry.
Don't worry
True to you wow
You're welcome
I'm very impressive
Find a home we need a home
Good question ain't it yeah, you use something
Hey
How you made a rock show
I can't build shit actually hold on I might be able to
I'm looking for
I feel too good mr. Stark
I was trying to look at the most similar company you heard of a spyglass bar. I'm looking for some gainful employment
he's trying to get employed okay I don't have a job I'm looking to rob people
I'm looking for a hedgeman okay so here's what we got to do we got it we got
to find out some lofty goals we got to find out how to get to the spire it's
over there
are we gonna go slay it over yonder no we're doing this again are we doing this
again we're gonna go over there and die yes over there I got robbed by I saw this
in a vision yeah he does that we have remember it I do remember it kakawa this
We have to slay this fire.
Two.
We have to slay it as well.
Yes we do.
I don't think we can slay it.
We have to slay this fire.
That is why we're here.
That is why we're put on this earth.
How do we do it?
How do we do it?
Let me, let me, let me see a rock.
Propaganda.
My collie is nice and clean and I'm ready.
Yeah, I'm ready to pull out.
Let's see rocks.
I got a normal rock.
That's not a magical one.
Oh, she got a poop rock.
Our rocks aren't good enough, man.
Okay, so our rocks aren't good enough.
This is like, this is going to turn into a shit show.
So let's go find the nearest crackhead.
Okay, we got to find a crackhead,
and we need to make them feel useful.
No, outside of the immediate circle.
That's Jennifer.
Oh
And then Jennifer the Crackhead will lead us to be able to slay the spire
Oh
I don't know where she spawns she could just be out there
You gotta show us Jennifer right now, okay, you're gonna relax panicking like crazy
Yes, you are you gonna relax okay, where is Jennifer not panic you're gaslighting me you are you losing your mind
And we're just having a conversation. Where is Jennifer?
Hold on let me get a feel for it
what is the noise that way okay I'm going I'm right I believe I'm following
the lady behind me I'm a little I'm a little gas here and now oh shit make the
You jump!
Ow! My leg!
My leg! My legs!
I know, I'm just going the direct way she said to go.
I think we have to keep going this way.
Oh my god.
Okay.
We're swimming?
She's already swimming.
She can't hear you.
Damn, you can hold your breath a long time down there.
Can't you?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, wait a minute.
This looks familiar.
This looks familiar.
Go back to retail
No, Jenna was it where'd she go she's probably gonna mean is there
Yeah, you should go on ahead. Okay, so me there's your music
Now what exactly are we hoping to find here just fired
Guns.
And what are we gonna do with guns?
We're gonna shoot the crackheads.
Oh, oh, alright.
There's some vigilante justice.
Let me ask you something, if we're smoking crack to get to the guns, wouldn't that make us the crackheads?
you have to become one with your enemy you need listen all right we have to
know what we're dealing with it's the only way
oh I said you the crackhead earlier remember Stephen
I don't know who the Stephen guys you keep talking about hey hey hey hey what's
Jesus. You're not the Steven.
Oh, this is, this is a, there's something underneath.
What? Oh, what the frick?
Oh, be careful. You need a gold shovel.
Oh, how did I hit it?
What? Who's real to premonition?
What in the hell?
Oh, my God, so brujerita, brujerita.
No, the switchcraft.
Okay, here's the, here's the oh ho.
Here's the evil oh ho.
Okay, I don't want to deal with the tubercalibur, we should move, we should move, we should move, we should move, I'm scared of that thing.
Alright, yeah, that's scary.
No, my tubercalibur, please, don't remind me, please.
The YouTube title changed, by the way.
Hey, look, pretty free over here, I think we can just run up and take it.
Yeah, yeah, this is ours now.
Is there any water over here?
I think I'm gonna go back to level 10 or something with a flag 3% stat increase.
Would this solve linear progression or is that dumb idea?
I think I mean I'll be getting annoying for a lot of people
Uncacawates y mi amiga es Stephanie
Amen
Amen
And if that's how the chips and salsa, amen
And if it's salsa, see, please, that's really good, that's really good
Nothing happened?
Yeah, what the hell?
Oh, shit, it didn't work
But that's kind of what they have in the legacy talents
It seems like a public interest
Like a massive waste of time
What's your grand plan now?
Oh, hold on mr. I never got your name. My name is George. Oh
My god, George W. Bush
What your name is
Hey, they show like a sign coming from the sky
I
Great prophet
In the top his tower
Bush on the tower without I hear you
We see you
I said I hear you
What did you say you're gonna have to speak up I said I hear you
What are you? What are you?
Here making a lick of sin. Can you project a little bit use your outside voice? I
Hear you
I said I hear you. Oh, hey. Oh
No, I hear you just fine. Is there like a voice? We go from here
Okay, I didn't think this far through
let us okay um we need we need to okay so we need to find a rock
obsession with the rock is even because inside of if we can find if we can find a
rock that rock might have oil in it
And if we have oil, then we can build ships.
A great army.
Absolutely.
We have to get a rock.
Yeah.
We get a rock.
And then it comes.
Yeah.
And then if the rock has oil, then we can use the oil to build our kingdom.
I'm gonna call it the order of the oil I'm sure it is and
And no one's gonna dispute that either because Iraq is very dangerous. I heard I heard it's very dangerous
Yeah, rocks can be dangerous
So we have to take it for the safety of everyone around them so they don't get hurt by a rock
We have to take it and if it happens to have a little bit of oil as well. That's just a win-win. I'm alright, right
Okay, 100%
Okay, I'm into
Mr.. Bush, let's get you a rock. Okay, let's go find a rock
Okay, well you gotta figure that out that kind of sounds like a you problem. I'm not gonna lie
Wait, how do we how do we how do we not be dehydrated we're gonna find some water to drink
there's a fresh water none of this salty crap
hello hey who's in here
open up no nuts not your bunker true
I guess they're right on that one.
Now if you had to guess which way is a rock?
Probably to the end. Probably east.
Yeah, let's go east.
Like the middle east.
In between the middle of these two big rocks.
Wait, where's Amigo?
go I think he ran oh yeah I didn't get his name so I'm just gonna call him Amigo
okay okay oh that sounds good Amigo
What about us called you Jose, does that work?
That's fine, you can call me Jose, I'll call you a Steven, is that okay?
Why not?
Oh shit, I guess after that.
I thought I was Steven.
I told everyone it's Steven, I'm so sorry.
Everyone's a Steven.
No, he's called me a caca-poopoo or something.
You called me caca-poopoo earlier wasn't it?
No, I did not call you, no.
I said you're cacahuates, you're cacahuates.
That's how we say your name in Spanish.
I
All right
We water
Ran to the Middle East. Oh, hey, this water tastes disgusting
We're gonna get we're gonna get some water we drink
My god
Oh my god, is there any berries on this island?
Does the game actually like this typical experience?
No.
So it's like a custom server and they want it to be like role play oriented.
I gotta get to the Middle East as soon as possible, can't be walking now, last time
I was there I ran to the Middle East.
Yeah, we gotta run to the Middle East.
We can find Iraq.
Yeah, we can get to the Middle East, then I think we'll be saved.
Yeah, is there a way for us to start a corner?
kind of promised land, yeah.
Uh huh.
Now I'm sure I'm hungry, you got a snack.
Yeah, me too, but I don't have a snack.
Maybe we can rustle something up over here on this land.
Yeah, maybe we can find some food.
Hey, um, he goes getting stuck back there. Okay, we gotta get water. He's got he's got cramps
Okay
This was wait five minutes. Wait, he's yelling
Let me go
Yeah, I'm gonna push. I'll push you from behind
I'm just trying.
Massage it for him.
Be careful. Be careful.
Yeah, I saw the massage train.
Yeah, you push me and I'll push him.
Just to get you across.
Yeah, this train gonna make him stay.
Oh, sorry.
Okay, just...
He's moving a little faster.
There's a lot of bubbles here.
It's an extra propulsion in the back there.
I hope somebody sees us.
I'm so sorry I didn't kill my cloaker today boys.
Yeah just it's okay just you know we're gonna make this work.
Hey the kid's on my ass cloaker.
Steven you don't check your cloaker?
No I don't need I don't know what that is but I'm I've never been a cloaker.
What's the even is you're talking to?
Do you must be in?
Oh, oh, yeah, I've never been to Croatia
Oh
Well, all right, round three.
Oh man, that was funny.
uh... okay
uh... buh buh buh buh buh buh
where are we? oh my gosh i'm all the way down here now
are you an RP or just playing?
no, we're RP
are you an RP or a new character or something like that? uh... i'm a schizo crackhead
Look at this, let me check.
Everyone's looking for, everyone's looking for me nearer to play, what am I doing?
Who is this?
What am I doing?
This to me.
Again.
Somebody said there's a Red Bull thing next week.
Did you play Dragon walls?
I did not.
Do you play Dragon walls?
It was really good.
So that was funny.
Oh, okay.
A lot of people are saying is the rest enjoy or true?
Well, I should just try and travel to the very top of the map
The dragon walls have been getting out sponsors.
One is S-Van's turn.
I refuse to watch unless S-Van is playing.
True.
I have a sponsor for Aeon too soon.
It's been a down.
Yeah.
They said it's going to be a few hours.
No, it's our public.
We're giving them casinos.
I tried to do a moz when I first released an early access, but not a fan.
Uh, really? I actually have not heard any, I mean maybe it's just like the genre of game, right?
But I've, I've not heard a bad thing about Dragon Miles.
Animal was cool, I'll play that back in the name, nice.
I got selected for a wildfire review class survey.
In, on email?
Yeah, I feel like survival games without roleplay are not fun.
I think you have to have, yeah, I think you have to have like an RP element to it, because
Otherwise, it just kind of becomes a dragon.
If you're like just grinding it out.
I don't have any money man.
of
Hmm
Why is it that every time I watch this guy play rust he's always a black woman and all the girls are guys
Anyway, I've already got my furnace drop
But I'm going to need you to go back in time a few years and stream this again
So I can get to my garage door the garage door thing
You know, what's crazy? Can I get my own drops?
dude people like yeah dude crazy last time around dude people were like if I
That wasn't streaming Rust 24.7, chat was so AIDS.
Just in the video, led UBRS and Truth is Dedge.
Uh, wait, what happened?
Let's, wait, what video are you talking about, Tabenca?
That's been a garage door, the anime girl is very popular.
Yeah.
That was crazy.
And they're just coming in here like saying crazy shit in Russian. It's super angry
Put a live restaurant as your play resonance you're getting inbodies will cross the map we're getting raided by a group of five teenagers true
commercial naked women for no big sports thing wait what
Burger? I had burger two days ago. What did I have yesterday? Burrito? Salad?
whole white chocolate cake wait oh well I don't know what the whole chocolate cake
dude what what a white chocolate cake tastes like
what is white chocolate is white chocolate even chocolate
It's just sugar.
Dude, you know what I like?
And I don't care who knows a Burger King Whopper.
I say that I like Burger King and people are going to get so upset and frustrated.
But what is hot off the- wait, special request, hot off the broiler and cut in half?
What's going on in the library?
Someone close by saying he likes Burger King.
What is wrong with Burger King?
Why do people not like Burger King?
Burger King closed down in my country.
In my country, we don't have Burger King.
I don't have any money, man, sorry.
Espen do I look like what the fuck Espen that's disrespectful as fuck you know
that what do you mean you are talking to the Queen of the Pirates yeah I'm
my man I just let me know if I want to be my friend I can be my friend here
My parrot wait, so wait what what what's going on? Oh my gosh, look at this bird
Perrute you try that right?
Wait, so what so you you guys have a pirate ship Paulie
We shall have a pirate ship and Paulie will build it with his wings and I can live in
our pirate ship if I want to.
What a responsibility!
Frick.
Okay, well can I join you guys?
Yeah.
I shall join us and I shall have a very big role in this journey to become the
kings of the and the queens of the pirates okay I'm down
first we have to find our kingdom okay wait is this not it no no what the heck
What is this then this is the no man's land, but this is say
Yeah, you for I ruin here and you get stuff
Okay, well, I don't have this is not for now say I ran for this
Yeah, well you forge I ruin here, but we're
We're too poor right now, so for now we shall get Diabo now you shall follow me
Okay
I'm trying to harvest his organs well lost
I'm just going to be careful over there, I don't have a player.
Sulfur?
Smells like eggs.
I was like eggs!
I
The burden hey, oh sick
Yes, I gave a Polly bird an order to get your boat sick
Wait, so how'd you treat it? How'd you teach it to fat? I shall give Polly or
That I should give orders to Polly as well if I wish oh sick
Paulie will listen to you. Yeah, I'm down
Paulie has a lot of experience wait Paulie, how do I get some uh, can you give me some arrows?
I'm gonna miss a lot
Subdue dude, Asia you look great
Thanks, dude. I'm really working on my my lips here. Yeah, I can see that
You like my gray hair. I look very old
Yeah
You see this bird over here, I got a huge 50 y'all look like your brother and sister
Wait, what?
Hairstyle kind of suits my brother
similar
That was, that was my sister.
Yeah, I'm a woman.
Hey, can I shoot myself with this?
I lost all my things.
Yeah, you can.
I'm finally not.
Oh, you can't?
Oh, wait.
Oh, you could.
Well, guys, come here.
Come, come, come take a look.
Alright.
Come in.
This is our secret outpost, okay?
Secret outpost.
Very cozy, very nice.
And this shall be our meeting point.
Shall anyone get it lost?
Okay.
Okay, yeah.
Wait, how do I, am I authorized?
Oh
Sick
Well, I have a silver
Which is not metal I put 350 here here
Here can I get it can I get this authorized as well?
I think I'm good you you can do that with that you you know you can do that with spare
Spear oh really?
Yeah, yeah, it would spear throw it in the air and then
Yeah
Well, I need a sleeping bag
Right, I wasn't gonna wake up. You're gonna have this yeah, yeah, you need like nine more cloth
Make one cool unless you had some
I don't think it's here what happened is your dog
with the dog is wearing a suit got him nice let's take that take that yeah
as a thing on him.
Tool. Yeah, you got that thing on him.
You got that thing on him.
Snake. Snake.
It's Nick. What do you mean? What?
Snake.
Snake.
Snake. Snake.
Snake. Snake.
Oh, fuck.
No.
Bitch, yes.
Bitch, yes.
I'm bleeding.
I'm right here.
more dead more dead
finally
there's one there's one there's one
i hit it
where'd it go
it got scared i think
we shall join a kingdom now where do we do kingdom yeah what do we want to go we
need to join the blue kingdom we also need everyone to have a back here who
doesn't have a bouncer but we do have drops
Yeah, true. This would actually have been even more sick than the other outposts.
Look behind here, just put a bit of cinema to build in.
This is... this is... this is a big job here.
Whoa! Wait, this is cool!
Hello.
What?
Stop!
Stay! Stay your name!
Whoa, whoa, whoa!
Shhh! Stay put!
I don't like that name, choose a new name.
No.
Okay.
I shall be known as S-Fan.
Okay.
S-Fan.
Nice to meet you.
My name is George W. Bush.
Nice.
Nice to meet you.
And I am a woman.
Oh my goodness.
Oh.
Wow.
Okay.
I mean, that's cool.
That's my sister.
Yes.
This is my brother.
And his hose.
I don't know what I'm saying.
I'm just kidding bro.
And you're a terrorist.
That's a terrorist.
He's my, he's my, who's the leader of Golden Bones?
Oh, um, it's me, S-Fan, the leader of Golden Bones.
Okay, S-Fan, don't bullshit me.
What is Golden Bones about?
Tell me right now.
Um, like Golden Bones is about just being the best, you know?
Okay.
Being the best there ever was.
Cool.
Are they the blue zone?
Are you guys the blue zone?
What color are you?
Uh, I don't know, is that like Cyan?
I don't know.
Well, they are the blue ones.
Is that that blue?
I don't know.
I can't remember.
Who is Cyan?
A teal?
That must be the blue one.
That I took in new allies today.
That I might have had gotten new allies today.
Like us?
Like me and you?
We're allies?
Like, yeah.
That is correct.
Hold on.
We have to have a meeting about this.
Stand over there, okay, right, you know formalities our place
Okay, all right guys, should we be allies with him? Okay
I think he was kind of lying about his name dough like no, no, we know we have to trust him otherwise we're bad allies
Yeah
Yeah, we have full trust as we mean look we can't we can't go into this partnership with any sort of doubt
Okay, as fan is our allied. Okay, you can tell him tell him
Okay
We trust you that's fan
And we trust you and we will join your team if I will allow it
Okay, it's like you if you're like looking to officially join we're kind of cool
I'm kind of good at my job.
No, we're kidding. We're kidding. We're testing your loyalty.
We were testing your loyalty. We're not going to kill you.
We were testing your loyalty with several bows pointed at your face.
Yes, one might say that it was foolish of you to come here.
here. Oh, Espan the fool, huh? Espan the fool. That's what they call him. Okay, listen here, Espan.
We will have a handshake agreement between our two kingdoms.
And I, George W. Bush, approve of this message.
Between our aisles, no? Yeah, there's something like that. Sounds good. Oh, yeah, aisles, not kingdoms.
Yeah, I got a nice Isle.
Yeah, it's all the same.
RAAAGH! I CAN'T GOT IT!
This is an offering.
Wait, Espen, I have a question.
Will, um...
I'm responded.
Are, is your Isle completely full forever, or is it like...
Oh, um, well you...
You know how
Captain crews are you got to start with ten and then have everyone work really hard and then that's when you get more
That's just pirate code
Is it just a rust one more in a rust like we're gonna be building that you build bases and you get weapons and you rate other bases
That's how it works. You don't have to worry about it. Perfect. Are you guys gonna be living here?
Yes, we will find out we
Yes, we're married one day. We're in one big yes, we're in a big polygamous relationship. We're all married
We are not a cult though, no I think I just see a beautiful family that's all I see yes
Keep it in the family
Yeah, so I'm just gonna go though
All right, that's man go with God nothing ever tears it apart
Be well as fan. Thank you now watch this drive
Rick
To do it anymore like now though. Hey, I'm really really hungry
It's Venice on it. That's all like
Eat this risk it
Eat this eat this I'm gonna eat
It might be good. It might be bad
Okay
They have to go to wow
State your name state your name you are in four dials
Yes
Yeah
So I was gonna cut it I got a burger today chat. Why makes you fat, dude?
Are you looking at my penis?
Ma'am you are wrong you have a vagina my lady. I can't really see it's blurred
So actually, thank you for letting me know nope. That's a penis. I know penis when I see one
I am very very very hairy
I was one for mentioned does it look normal
I
Listen to me. I would not know I would not know I am a virgin
That's nice
Are you are you are you single?
it's been a long time what you like to join our family we're all married we are
all married and we have a pet pair one step to the right oh then that that
does it okay continue I don't think that you can't explore any of us you let us
No, I think it disappears
I want to join to marry us too
Tell us about this wall
Trigas
See over there with the smoke rises there be the wall
The wall ice the resources are all around it. Yes. I see that the wall
Okay, I'm gonna move on short that's all right
I die shall lead us to this wall
Yes, we need to go find ice at the wall before before it gets too dark the
temperature will get low come yes Nora starts whispering Nora starts
whispering as soon as we reach the place over there we're gonna eradicate
them okay this is how we've been like our dirty of course not I shall trust us
I like me jokes no idea I do I have all the chats open pretty cool huh
so much
What is this game of
Thrones you're talking about
So I think somebody accidentally the accidentally copy pasted like a like a
This
We'll search
I have to be cool.
I think it actually reads the URL and notices my type.
Oh, my God.
Hey.
Hey.
Hurry.
I have to get some pants right now.
Wait, what?
Oh, okay.
Hold on.
We what okay hold on can I do a running I'm I don't know probably
I'm not you
I don't know I've never done this before you won't nearby
Wait boy that bird just pull a horse out of his ass
Yeah, I'm starving
Thank you, Polly
Yeah, Burger King Polly
Paulie, that's not Burger King.
Okay, well, we gotta fix that, Paulie.
I don't like anybody who's not from America.
What?
That's...
...free you again.
I'm George.
I'm George.
What?
What?
How foolish of you to call me this man?
I clicked on the lady!
I'm sorry.
I know the bars for us, man!
There you go!
Oh.
I'm just gonna...
Get the whole seating!
Wait, why is the horse drowning itself?
Why is the horse drowning itself?
Josh was that...
Josh was that...
Who's Josh was?
There's an evil, Joss Sukai.
Oh, you killed him?
No, I mean, and with a crossbow killed him.
He's up ahead.
Do we want to meet him?
If he doesn't kill me,
I have nothing to defend myself with.
Polly will eradicate him.
Oh, here.
extra oh thank you so much
and may you have one yet I have nothing girl
I
Spent it's not here
Guys guys guys
What's our goal right now? Where are we going?
Yes
We need to go to Sven, okay
Blue team
No, that was I'm Chinese
Polly?
Don't let Polly die. Don't let Polly die!
Polly here!
How do they save you?
Okay, oh, oh, I think I'm gonna hit it with the arrow.
A lot of times.
Alright Polly, leave the way.
What the frick guys guys guys guys guys I heard of the war I heard a war I heard a tiger careful
I can't see
It's evil
Look, evil, that's the one we have to join, evil.
I can see, I'm Mars.
I want to join evil.
Wait, where's evil?
I want to join evil.
No, what?
No, that's bad, evil is bad, we can't be evil.
No, no, no, no,
E-
Dot V-
Dot I-
Man, should we give it a seven-y-eight months?
They could PGA again.
Extra.
Vicious.
How are you seeing that?
No, extra.
How are you seeing that?
Vampire interesting yeah, whatever
Larper do you have turrets? What are you saying? Why are you just saying worse?
Wait, I'm confused. How do you see I'm not stupid. Okay, you're just saying words
follow Polly
Polly Polly follow Polly. Come on lock in
Listen everything I said was with purpose. Okay
It's funny, we're like, is it like the worst start to, like a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,
Like playing Rust because like we're not actually building or progressing at all.
We're just running around being stupid.
Yeah, servers are down.
There's- no, somebody told me to watch that video. I should watch it.
I'm gonna- I'm gonna- I have like a handful of things to react to
after we're done playing Rust today.
those with this anyone have any food
and we need burger king I have uncooked I've under burger king burger king
Fuck, let me risk it.
Um...
What? No.
Food.
Hungry Jack? Who the hell is Jack?
Hungry Jack.
Yeah, how do you do on a run in Rust?
Big land over here!
Mainland!
Mainland!
Oh, mainland, okay.
No, you're good.
You're good, Perl's got nothing to worry about.
Okay, I'm not that, I'm not, I'm not saying this to you, but uh, fuck with.
Oh, never mind. Let's move on
Fuck a fuck with
Yeah, just in need of a good night. We'll see you tomorrow is a captain team boat
I
Mean dragon's working Australia
Wait safety is up ahead and probably we trust
Took while for a survey that's ready close
I can say this is so bad it's going to ruin the classic field again quickly
I stuck me too
Chat my food is downstairs
Wow. World of Warcraft, forever sure does look like it's being taken in a completely different direction.
Where's the Paladin gameplay? This looks more like Wario gameplay, slow and monotonous.
Just kidding, Love U is fan-
Thank you, Daniel.
...doing well today.
I'm getting ready.
...in season three.
Okay, oh look, dog! Doggy!
Nora, you know what to do, Nora?
Don't worry.
Okay, I shall not falter
Hey, I'm an idea
Wait, should we harvest these movies?
Yeah, if we can kill them
But we actually really need to find a kingdom before all of them gets like oh careful
If you shot come back come back
Hello, hello, how are you?
I'm good. What's your name to pump it Google I am to pump it Google
Do you do you want to call you mr. McDougal or two pump a TP?
Do you call me good old two pump good old two pump?
I don't call me good old two pump. So tell us a little bit about uh, tell us a little bit about what you do here mr.
Two pump I
Am good old two pump. What are you up to?
Well trying to settle down in the kingdom. Yeah
Manifest destiny style
I die shall lead us to the island and we shall join forces.
I'm looking for my good old friend Billy.
Have you seen him?
Well, we will give you this information if die shall lead us to your island and we shall
give you this information that you so much need.
Well, I actually don't have an island. I was desperate.
It was what, I guess?
Evil was down and you once he let it be said.
I hear a bear.
Not like this.
Two-bump attack!
I have nothing! I have nothing!
I
We shall never find it. I don't work. I didn't have time to actually bind it in your kingdom. I'll bind it a little bit
Thanks. Thanks. I'm not so they did see
Evil did say they only had one more slot
Hmm oh save zone
Okay, wait, I I'm bit
I'm bitten the same I don't know a snake baby
I
Got bit in the same zone. Oh the same song the heck. What is this horse doing here? Did you get bit?
My ass I'm not just a horse
I mean, Unicorns aren't real.
There's a boat! They aren't real, I'm real!
That is a ship!
Polly, lead the way! Polly, lead the way!
Dude, this is insane. So this is a whole custom map that they built out for this.
They actually, dude, they didn't even crumble out for this.
I got six six you know six is almost all right six
six seven six seven six seven six seven six seven six seven
thank you i appreciate you thank you kindly
i will plant these seeds i'm gonna spread my seed all across the land
What are we doing?
Spin!
No, no, no, no, no.
It's not a sponsor.
This is just a- the servers are down
for classic buzz.
No, I was just looking at it.
What?
Oh, wait.
Yeah, we don't have anything to give you.
Fuck, it's a variable.
Um, yeah.
you tell me oh this is good this is good this is good except the crude oil
yep but if you have more those some of those those things
Gamble! Gamble!
Right here?
Uhhh...
Is it this one?
Wait, dude, look at this. Polly, look.
Parrot or a clown?
Is that sick?
Raaah!
Hi, Polly!
Hello there, you don't look like a parrot.
That's a bird.
Raaah!
You don't look like a goose, man!
Raaah!
But you look like we're too flock of a feather.
We're too flock of a feather, you and I.
Captain, you prefer over here.
Captain, wait!
Raaah!
Sparrow, goose, Polly!
Raaah!
Parrots!
Well, I-I wouldn't say that I'm necessary polyamorous, but I could be convinced.
Most people could.
Hello, egg.
Hello.
Is that your real name?
Hey, my momma named me that when I was just a little guy.
It looks like you have a diaper on is that a feature or is that a short?
And Polly, where'd we go?
Where's the gamble?
Where's the gamble?
I think it was over there.
Right?
Wasn't it where we came?
I think it's over here.
Okay.
Oh
Maybe I was wrong. Where's the gamble? Where's the gamble?
Where's the gamble?
Oh, that way the gamble over here, follow me, my name is George W. Bush, George W. Bush
help your slacks
Wait, where am I going?
We shall leave
I'm lost
We have mediums to go to
Please
I need food right now
That's your food
Thank you
Oh my god I love you
Thank you so much
Guys
We have a team
Thank you take this in. Blue team will take this in.
Yeah, I can go up there.
We gotta wait for them.
Scrap in that. Scrap in that hole.
Shuffer.
Let's get a real gambler to show you guys how to gamble.
Okay, I put it in the red one, what does that do?
It's a miss.
Did you hit that?
Where's my number? Where are my crime numbers?
Uh oh. Uh oh.
They were relieving?
They don't believe it.
Hopefully having a snack!
Nice!
Hopefully wine! Polly wine!
Nice, that was good.
You watched W. Bushman's historically known as a gambling man who had a pet parrot.
Good on you for staying accurate to history as a fan.
Thank you.
Um, um, space.
This don't work? No?
I mean, I gotta tell somebody about this.
Yes, you shall.
Oh, how's it going?
Well, I'm broke again.
How'd that go for you?
Yeah, I'll give you some help.
Hopefully, we're in Pollyhill.
I'm fueling the infection.
There you go, sir.
Oh, thank you.
This was in a line on 10.
You can't believe it being your own boss.
305! 305!
Oh, my boss is here.
I can't even have something to say.
I
Again
That's true. That's true day, Henry
George W. Bush was a gambling man
Oh
Sorry
We shall are you dumb gambling guys can you find the king kingdom
one more one more this is it this is it this is the big leagues
Yippee
My life literally means nothing
Oh
I thought you were doing like I thought you were playing no rain the first two notes you're like
Then he screwed up
Well, I'm gonna be the best plunderer of the seven seas. You better watch your pockets
For I am the best plunderer and you can ask around
Hey, are you guys ready to leave?
We're leaving now
Where's Paulie Paulie
There's a quest to find a rat or maybe fly a rat.
Pauly!
Are we making a rat now?
Pauly is over here.
Pauly!
Pauly!
Pauly is smoking drugs.
You're scared!
Oh, oh.
Pauly, wait, where?
Wake up.
Ah!
Ah!
Get out of the way.
Get out of the way.
Get out of the way.
Yep.
Pauly.
Get out of the way.
Get out of the way.
but it's not mine, it's not mine.
I'm feeling quite glad.
I'm not getting this.
Paulie's sleeping.
Paulie is coming.
Paulie died.
I don't know what that is.
It sounds like there might be a werewolf.
Oh, sounds.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll keep my eye out.
Are you with this crew here?
Are you with this traveling band of Marauders?
This is one of our guests.
My name is George W. Bush, I would like to say hello
Hello, George W. Bush. My name is Captain Goosey. It is a pleasure to meet you. Good to meet you
My time might extend my question. I don't want to have you a raft yet. We don't
See I am not able to research it I would like to
Yeah, um, maybe we don't have the technology
or caps per chance. I think we don't have the technology. Yes.
Have you any? Which who of you is the captain?
I
Captain Nora
Captain Nora
My name is Queen and Nora and I shall name me after that and that's one word by the way. I will
Quite a lot quite a lot of working title. I like it
Queen and Nora we must work together to find a raft
Otherwise, we are landlocked landlubber. I could laugh ever
No, the servers are down.
Also, uh, I do like this.
And my shields, they are, they are wavering.
I must be on the open seas, that is my goal.
That is correct, let's do such thing together.
Because together is how we get stuff done.
Sharing is caring.
Quite well, let us stay in the kitchen like my opinion, the parrot, etc.
That is A-OK with us. We have but one request.
What be that request?
I shall bring Rum to our next meeting.
Rum a plenty! Aye!
We will be of supply, yes, quite well.
Rum and molasses, but we must find a raft first to get to the islands to get to Rum, yes, of course, yes.
landlubber what be your name Paulie we need to go to the Isle of the Evil we
have a meeting with toast
we have meeting with toast and Sven evil
I
Shall ask on pigeon no, she just asked, okay
Hello, hello, hello
Hello
Bottom right we shall
I
Whoa
Five seconds ago was awesome
What five seconds ago? Yeah, I don't know but it was so sick that I wanted to see it again
I was really funny, I see what I said when you were saying that, while you were talking
about the kids.
Oh god, you're funny.
funny. No, I wonder how I want to be as funny as you know. Well, don't don't ask me that.
That's not good sometimes. I met the. Wait, what do you mean? Yeah, sometimes it's funny
at the wrong time. The bridge. I asked. Well, then I asked the woman on her period. I was
as funny as you. That is what the joke is. I was talking about, but my me is not down
Period me is just a queen of the of the pirates. Do you understand? Okay? Hold on why do I hear? Okay?
It sounds like Nora is in my you're talking about periods
That is wrong wait right beside you. There's a notch wait natural again issues. Hey, why are you faster than me?
Wait, why am I slow?
Brick
We need to go southeast east and make sure that you have your bag so bags over there
okay?
Yeah bag.
Bag.
Go ahead.
Sleeppy bag.
Quick I need to auto run so I can alt tab and respond to DMs because I have importance.
Oh, me too, me too, me too.
Oh, I'm starving.
Oh, I'm starving.
I see.
I see.
I got some food. I appreciate it though. What are you working on?
No, what was it? Oh, thank you so much. Thank you.
Oh my gosh, a pumpkin in corn!
Oh hell yeah.
Polly, every corn the long way.
Nice.
Yeah, thank you.
Shall we go?
Anybody have food?
yes I just harvest this song find all days over near the river
we try to go now
All I can say is that my life is pretty blank.
Hello?
Hello?
Why are you trying to steal my horse?
I'm not, I'm trying to steal your head, see you over it.
Oh.
Why are you trying like that?
Like what?
Like that, that's sick.
Like what?
Like that, that's sick.
Well, I'm just looking around.
That's crazy.
You're flexible.
Yeah, I'm just built like that.
Yeah, that's fricking, yeah, like no organs or something.
I don't know how that happens.
I just took my ribs out.
Oh, frick, that's scary.
OK, well, I have to go.
Don't let your horse die.
That's my friends.
Okay, take care of it and make sure nobody takes it.
Hi, good luck.
If you press space, it comes to you.
They've played well before. My friend wants to play forever.
Instead of giving away kills. Yeah, it's like a giveaway.
Um, yeah, we do, we do like random, random giveaways.
Oh, and so I mean...
Yeah, apparently there's like a beta opt-in on the Blizzard website, but it's just random.
If you want to just buy it, it's $60, if you want to just buy it.
I'm just obsessed with water now.
Did you know what I hate?
I hate whenever I can't see the bottom of the ocean.
Uh, yes and no.
Uh, they're doing a patch for the beta.
Oh, I made it.
I
Check
It's not a rest. Yeah, what's up Bishop? Yeah, it's actually crazy how long the downtime is for this patch
blue on the map blue on the map blue on the map blue blue blue blue wait where am I oh
Oh, we're close.
Nice, shouldn't be in this weekend.
You see what effects I did?
I did, I'm really excited.
Um, I mean, I'm going to play a little bit here and there.
Because because we did get an exclusive drop for it.
But I mean, there's obviously going to be a lot of classic
There's just so much stuff going on in classic, I mean there's RPE and stuff like that, so.
I know it's special, but I've been watching Reels and such about WoW forever that you've done.
I just want to say that you have a good head and shoulders, and I appreciate the demeanor and what you really thought some of it was.
Thank you. Thank you all for talking to me, Grandpa. I appreciate it.
Yeah, I'm just hoping the best for the game, you know?
Wait, Polly, say that again?
Oh, I don't know what that is.
But I would assume it's pretty good if I did know.
Yeah, I mean, it sounds, I mean, the name sounds like it's a stupid name, probably.
It's that weird name.
But if I, I mean, if I had to guess.
It's probably pretty good and probably needs a little bit of work, but uh, probably.
But it's, you know, a good start.
More than likely.
Good start!
Mm-hmm.
I can only stream on it if you get off of Billy at Rustraps now.
It's only an hour.
It's not like it was before.
So if it's only an hour of time, then it's not worth it just to leave it on, you know.
Wait for Cam! Wait for Cam!
Wait for Cam!
Wait for Cam! Wait for Cam!
We got one more!
Wait wait wait!
Jump away!
We're not going to leave you, Cam!
We're allies.
You guys are our friends.
Thank you, Toast.
Thank you.
Hello, Chet.
Hello, Chet.
Hello, Chet.
Hello chat. Are we ready to find some booty? My name is not SPM TV
I don't know why people can find that my name is George W. Bush. Thank you
W stands for
So parrot if you guys
They pulled it they bought they pulled the blank on me
Oh, come on, I've been waiting for three or four months.
Nice ball, hey.
They pulled the plank from under my feet.
Ooh, big drama.
Ooh.
Oh, okay.
Oh
Yeah, what the heck
As old as ever it's a role-play server
Huh, so what do we do, boy?
We should go find them.
Kill them.
I'm just kidding
No, it's okay wait, I'm also my name is George.
Oh, oh the other guy, oh the other guy.
I'll think about it.
Where are they?
Where are they?
Well, it's a lot of hours
It's awesome
Where the heck are these guys I'm trying to look at the map
Ah frick.
Chat, what time do you think the servers are gonna come up?
Turn the servers on.
No ETA.
They'll be done forever.
Forever.
A duck walked into an apothecary and said give me some chapstick and put it on my bill
Play rest you I mean one of these one of these events and stuff. I do roleplay so it's like whatever game has roleplay
Get might this is trying to hurt my wrist holding down this W and shit
We can somebody give me the copy paste for the auto run key bind again?
Taxi can you do that?
Sorry I can just quickly do it.
I was trying to type it manually.
Can we do it for like, can you do the, um, what button do I want it to be mouse for?
Yeah, no, I don't mean to make the given three horses.
Oh nice.
Well anytime I choose
Sick
Nice with his horse is awesome
Oh, what the heck?
Dude, I smell a thing?
Where are we going?
I'm gonna go find him.
Is this WAP4Head or...
Is.
Localization problem of WAP4Head where you see it in localization,
in the English, P and J names aren't localized because it is what it used to be in Manila.
What is P and J?
Pacific North Jersey, Pacific New Jersey.
And the cows are the English, PNG names aren't localized because it is what it used to be
in vanilla.
That's fine, but only PNG names have their names localized.
There's something cooking in it, but it's not sure- Oh.
Oh.
I see.
Sick.
Wait, this isn't even better.
I see.
Sick.
Wait, this isn't even better.
The same.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
I feel like I'm going to die here, I feel like I'm going to die here, I feel like I'm
Oh
Oh I fell back. Okay. I'm good
Okay, so I'm looking at the map here, I guess we're pretty close, right?
Yeah, sick running.
You have 9k hours on Rust, dang.
You know what, you know what, I'm, I haven't gotten, I didn't get to play in the last play
test, but Legend of California I'm really excited for, which I think a lot of people
are like, oh, it's like a new Rust, but it's not really, it draws inspiration from Rust,
but a little bit of inspiration from Rust, but it's not like really a Rust, like a new
Rust.
Dude, am I?
My wrist is hurting really bad, just from holding down W.
Close! Look at the map!
Nice.
To pass on to you see on Horde it's S-Fan'd, Ina.
Our lines are just S-band.
It's S-band Dynah, true.
Do we're gonna come in and save the day? What if they're like dying?
How my bow out?
It's a horse. Should we kill this horse?
It is a creature!
Okay
Cloth! Get the cloth!
Oh
Uh here
I got a lot of cloth I think 100
No guys come on. It's not your first time on the internet. The servers are down. You
know the servers weren't down. So you're playing something else doesn't mean you're
down with it.
That's very ornthusie.
They're pretty good.
Dude, I'm gonna be honest. My wrist is like a lot of pain right now.
I
Mean I need to make a warrior
Hey, what the hell are you guys left us?
Dude Josh Bush did they refuse to stop that because they anchor wouldn't
drop you should have shot them all that's a lot too many
there is not enough people there is too many people here for this boat no that
is that is your brain not thinking the leader of this group who is the leader
of of you you people would you call us it's not me no what do you mean you
need to leave them
no we're all equal mr. span no we're not we're below Sven and we're below
Oh, yes, I have met Mr. Tos. He's a good person.
Is that where all of you come from? Or most of you?
Yes, because I came from here. He is my father.
Yes, are you good?
Yeah, I'm good.
Nice.
I'm being a judge first, sorry.
I mean, I'm a judge.
I mean, what is judge first, my name?
Yeah, I just feel that we needed Habibi's help far earlier than we thought.
Yeah, go team. Hey, can you take
us back to our boat? Yes, of
course, we can take you wherever
you need to go. I'm I'm
considerate. Consider it a
favor, Mr. Post.
Uh huh. Why do you why is my
wrist hurting so bad? Of course,
no, the honor is mine. The
honor is mine. Are these all
Yeah, eight of us are eight of us are a part of this team and we are here to save the day
Yes
We are we're here we're looking for a rock
boat we're trying to find a rock yes we are here to save you so that you can go
save the day yes and we're yes we're trying to just find a rock
well you're off is very far from me it is near my homeland very very far from
you okay I ran there
Yeah, I know all about the Middle East
Huge fan
I'll clean the north, ladies and gentlemen, up in the north.
Where the weather is cold and the sun don't shine.
Yes.
Horrible.
People are requiring oil.
It's all right.
Wow!
Ow!
Ow!
I was standing on the chest.
I know they pulled the chest, I was just standing on the chest.
What is this E-rock that I keep hearing about?
Is it similar to an E-girl or something?
Esfan, take your shirt off.
Come on George, come on.
They moved the chest, they pulled the chest from under me, I was standing on the chest.
one per person please do not take more than you need there are a lot of mouths to feed
go to the back of the boat you have gotten someone else got it
can I have it?
I'm scared, I don't know if you can hear me.
Yeah, I got it.
The tides are lower, you guys.
You have to rise, there is still a nation we have not yet met.
Mr. Kevin.
I agree.
Where is your guys' boat?
A little more to your right.
It's around the next bend.
Here.
You guys must go fast.
The tide is coming out.
The tide is not but a spirit tide towards our boat we go
Oh my god I see the boat
Get your mouth open
Wait is that a sun?
Yeah I just made it up
It's the tide
You can't push it
All the tide
On towards the evil boat it stays afloat
It stays afloat
Three, two, one jump jump jump
Listen they are going to ask you a question all of you
Uh, before we leave.
Does anybody have binoculars?
I don't.
It's okay, I got us.
I'm leaving. It's okay.
Do you?
Ah, that's pretty nice.
I got us, my friend.
I got us.
Uh, my name is George.
It's been a pleasure to meet you.
Thank you.
Ah, Mr. George.
I feel with those people.
Yeah I should probably join them again.
I'll see you guys later.
Hey Esfan, in classic maps, how would you feel of a dungeon maps dropping off the last bosses of instances, or in a chest or something like the Scarlet Key, so that on your first clear you don't have it, but you have it unlocked on consecutive clears?
Oh, that might be cool, I could that could be cool. I mean it might be unnecessary, but I
Think it'd be cool. It's kind of necessary
I've been away has this been talked about forever yet. What's
You go straight, like straight, you should, you should hit him.
You can't miss it unless you're blind.
You're not blind, are you?
No, no, no.
Well, everyone out of their bow already.
Here we go.
Hey, we should just drive by and just shoot the first person we see.
But nobody hit them, just like, just shoot around them so they get scared.
What do you guys think?
How about we kill them and then we chop their body up and eat the meat.
Yeah, I mean, we're dead, so another option could be that.
Yeah, I mean, I'm done.
Oh, my...
Okay, buddy chase that boat after it hard for hard
Mr. Push I must say you have white
white
The beautiful face. Thank you my god. I
Appreciate it. Thank you
Thank you. That's what I've been told by many and I will continue to be told
I'm gonna go in the water.
I'm gonna go in the water.
You want me to drive right there?
You have to land right next to the ladder.
Okay, okay.
Alright, everybody, one more time.
I'm gonna park right next to the ladder,
and you're gonna press E to jump on it.
Okay.
Jump on it!
Bring that up!
Yeah, the ladder is low.
I don't know if you'll be able to jump on that.
The ladder is a little bit low.
We got a solo!
Oh, it is solo. We can do this, guys. We can do this.
Last one.
We just lost someone because you closed it.
Scientist!
We can't reach that. We can't reach that.
Wait, wait, wait.
It's not going to happen.
Oh, someone...
Stand right here. Stand right here.
We're not going to get back again!
It's not going to happen.
What if we... What if we keep following it?
What if we keep following it until tide's go yeah, I mean it might be like 30 minutes
No, wait, wait, boost me up, boost me up. Jennifer, stand there.
Ow.
Hey!
You killed a land-stugging rotor.
Oh, somebody fell right on there.
Oh, Bolly.
Let me tell you a story of the worst fucking pirate ever to sail approximately 20 feet
before falling off the damn boat.
George W. Bush will never make a proper seaman.
dumb as is shooting wooden sticks at a steel ship
what boxes
we lost the boat
now what
We kill them we get the points and we advance our kingdom and hear the lamentations of their women
And my acts
I don't know what to do.
You wanna go?
Can anybody make a jump top maybe?
Can somebody make a jump top?
Who's on your blood side?
On the door!
Help somebody.
Where'd anyone go?
I'm gonna go inside there.
Yes, I would love some sake please.
Here you go.
Go on that!
Other side!
There's four.
That's not a bad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah!
The door! What you at?
Wait, can someone boost me over here?
There's a saying that takes this whole idea into it.
I'll get on here.
Fool me once, say among the undone me!
Fool me, can't be fooled again!
Oh, never mind. I just go on the other side.
Jeez.
Shit, I'm on the other side of me!
Fool me, can't be fooled again!
Oh, I don't mind, I just go on the other side.
Jeez.
Oh, I can't see, I can't see, I can't see!
Oh, please!
Oh, please!
Guys, don't do that, don't do that!
Drop me, drop me!
Drop me, drop me!
It's uh, it's up in now
now. Raise that back. Raise it
the back. It's putting my cheeks
for aerodynamics. That's tough.
My cheeks. We're coming.
Is that why we're moving so
fast? I mean, oh yes, we're
catching a lot of wind.
Don't worry, no worries.
Holly, Holly, okay?
I raise you one pair of spreadsheets with one extremely gate.
Holly!
Another region.
Holly is, um, I think Holly got slapped by the phone, unfortunately.
Yeah.
I think he died.
No, Holly!
They heard the sound of their bones hitting the woods.
Holly died.
No, we needed him.
Let's stick with, okay.
All I need is an ampere, let's sit on the car or a tractor, follow the boat and we'll lead us towards the enemy team, I think we're gonna try and fight them.
Okay, I like that. Also, the signal station I was exploring earlier, that's the red card monument. We had a red card, but we don't know how to activate it.
We need a housing to be someday.
We can see it because it's like blocked off for a little bit.
Well, I'm assuming we need a green card first and then we get a blue card with the green card and then we take the dumb card.
Yeah, we had a green card and a blue card when I was there, but we couldn't find out how to turn it off so that we could slice a red card.
Well, we had a red card of love.
And it appears you have found a puzzle, sir.
We could solve this.
Yeah, but I think it might be blocked off.
It's only blocked off by the extent of your imagination.
That was cold.
Is there a what on this map?
A harbour?
A harbour with a cargo docks?
I don't know, but there's a signal station to our left.
Oh, but you do need to go to that, uh, advanced-world kingdom, I'm pretty sure.
They sell- they sell a shovel there.
Have a gator!
Hold on.
of
the
That's a good renault.
I
Is a boat that might be the doodle pirates
Good job guys! Let's take that oil!
Holy! What was that?
Oh shit!
No, we're surrender!
I've got one too!
I'm bleeding, I'm bleeding!
I'm shitting myself!
Watch the waters, watch the waters!
Alright, who's in there?
Yo!
Yo, who's in the water, guys? Is that one of us?
Guys, there's someone in the water with the helmet on.
Who's me? Who's me?
Okay.
Okay.
Okay, I see.
Dude, that's what I was wondering.
What's going on?
What's going on?
Stop shooting!
Your ass is too fat, so your ass is too fat.
Can we negotiate this thing?
Never retreats. Never surrender.
Oh shit, I didn't really do that.
Come here.
We can talk about it.
Alright, alright.
Do you wanna talk?
Guys, maybe we should hear him out.
There's no room for talking.
Eat this!
Get full!
Cinema.
Cinema.
Cinema.
of
of
Cinema!
Alright!
Let's go!
Let's go!
Let's go!
Let's go!
Cinema!
Alright!
All right, a whole strike is based 10 seconds CD, really?
Oh, is there patch notes?
I don't think they should have done that.
We did it boys.
We did it boys.
Well, there'll be more of us in the future.
Yeah, a little bit over the course of the next week or so.
me a moment here. Interesting. I'm surprised they buffed red. I don't think they should
than that, but then again, I don't know the whole thing right now.
Um...
Uh, wow, wow, wow.
Classic Plus, new update.
Okay, so here's what I'm doing, okay, so that's it for Rust for today.
The IRS.
Whoa.
Oh
Okay
Give me a moment I am gonna go to the bathroom and also we are going to make a new vibe here on YouTube
I think that's it for Rust for now.
Good little Rust session.
We have drops and stuff for Rust, but yeah.
We're going to continue doing some wow right now.
I need to make a new VOD on YouTube.
create, go live, all right, if you guys enjoyed watching Rust, thank you for watching on the
YouTube bond.
Bye, I'll see you, yes, yes, yes, now it's fun to do a Superbond.
Everything is, that's when TV, follow, sub, watch, everything, everything's on TV, yeah,
at GTRP, we're gonna be doing a lot of stuff.
That was actually perfect timing.
Cause like I wouldn't have left right away
if it literally wasn't right when,
like I'm sorry, right when the service came up,
it was like literally right whenever I died.
It was just like the perfect,
it was actually the perfect timing.
Okay, I don't know actually, I thought they did two for a second, but I'm talking to some
guys.
I don't think they got buffed, I think they just got changed.
I think they kind of just got changed.
I don't think they should have been buffed.
But I'm looking at some of the other stuff.
Is there passionotes?
Yeah, I don't know.
I need this more than you, I think.
Okay, I'm going to look at these talent changes in a second chat.
Let me go to the bathroom, let me go to the bathroom and be right back.
All right, I've returned.
I haven't turned.
Did they say they're going to fix Hunter AutoShot right now?
I thought they said probably next week.
All right.
Okay, let's play.
Yeah, passion is up.
You
Okay.
Okay, YouTube stream is down, okay, are we live?
Second respect, still five gold, I'll tell them right now, okay.
Uh...
Okay.
So, they said that it's going to reset.
They said that the respect costs should reset every hour,
which is weird, but I don't know why they didn't just do
the normal like one silver, five silver or 10 silver.
Somebody, yeah, let's look at it, okay.
So, okay, the servers are up and these patch notes are up as well.
They are talking about a number of things that happen, class tuning changes and stuff.
Okay, so the first patch is finally here for Classic Plus for a while forever.
Now this is the beta of course and they're constantly just gonna be changing stuff up
and down.
My opinion, if you guys watch one of the videos, you know what my opinion is on this kind of
stuff, send it, okay?
No matter what it is, just try something.
If it's not good, change it back.
Snap, snap, snap, snap, snap, snap.
Just constantly be changing stuff and try everything, okay?
like right now, especially in the beta,
this is the time to do this, okay?
So I think realistically,
you're probably gonna get a lot of people
that are gonna be really reactionary and be like,
oh, my class is guided, oh, my class, my class.
You know, they're gonna be freaking out,
but I think just give it time.
I mean, it's easy to change, you know?
It's like whatever.
I haven't gotten a chance to go through it yet.
I just know that I've already been getting spammed
by people about paladin, paladin, paladin.
We'll get there. Let's take a look.
Okay, so Druid. We're going to start with the Druid patch notes. Let's take a look at this.
Also, it looks like these are data mined.
These, well, okay, so these might not be 100% accurate. This isn't something that Blizzard put out.
So, the other post is an easier read.
Okay.
So, yeah, okay, I'd rather look at this one.
Okay, let's look at, we're just gonna go top to bottom, okay?
That's from Kyback's.
We love Kyback's.
Kyback's, he's one of the good ones.
He is, he is.
He's one of the good ones.
Kyback's great, he's awesome.
Fixes fix the bug with casters not playing that precast animations and I'm standing while casting
Okay, change the sound effect that plays while jumping in water to be more aesthetically pleasing. Okay
Let's have a counter chat. Let's have a kind of that's plus one. I just did human death sounds
plus two
another plus one
That's two
Fix an issue where attempting to craft items or spells is causing players to stand up while waiting to obtain that can't fire buff
I haven't noticed that one players may now buff each other casting crafts while waiting for their campfire buffs. Okay. This is a good change. So
You
If you're sitting at the campfire you have to sit and it's like kind of annoying but you can like
Craft you can cast buffs you can do stuff like that now players may now tin campfire
But if they're sitting sitting in a chair sleeping lying down or using the kneeling emo, okay?
They added more ways to to get the buff cool
Okay, so that's big
Big one, big one, that's plus three, it's three.
Resolved an issue where Huey Sunnydale's legs failed to render properly, all right?
Fixed an issue that made a season of discovery ruinability visible.
Fixed an issue where happiness was not decreasing once you pet was in max loyalty.
Fixed an issue causing the under city canal ooze to be much brighter than intended, okay?
We're gonna miss the brighter ooze, but that's four, that's four things that we'd caught.
setting that could disable fog in an unintended manner.
Is this the volume fog? Do they get rid of the volume fog? Let's see. I wonder.
We'll find out when we log in. Actually, let's test that right now.
Oh crap. I'm in Windows 95.
Oh, they did get rid of volume fog.
Oh, come on.
That was cool.
I mean, to be fair, I do like it more with the fog.
Yeah, that's a minus one.
But I mean, I think it's cool to have it.
Fixed a water display issue and fixed various other display
artifacts on Mac.
OK, I know a lot of Mac people are complaining.
So plus one for the Mac users.
Fixed a memory leak causing gradual performance
degradation for some players.
That's a big one.
They fixed it.
Fixed an issue where in-game mail could ignore surnames.
Classes, if you have not recently
Change your talents the cost in that one silver. That's another plus one. That's another one we asked for
This is a temporary for the beta after your first talents reset the subsequent cost will be much higher
But it will drop to one silver after one hour. It's passed
Okay, I don't know why they did that way. That's weird. Whatever
Oh my gosh, you know what dude the natural frame rate is already way higher
I'm getting 110 frames 120 frames
Like never would get I would it would only be like 120 friends, right whenever I load it at first. This is way better
Okay
Big patch so far
Druid corrected an issue and now read you can crit correct an issue now tranquility can crit
Wrath base damage increased by 50% okay, so now we're talking about the druid buffs, okay?
Druid changes I should say so read you tranquility can now crit wrath can now
increases base damage by about 50%. Thorns will now dynamically update its
values based on the caster spell power. If the caster cannot be found or is too far
away, thorns refer its to base values. This is good because I mean you could
like buff bot have like somebody stack a bunch of spell power and throw thorns in
there.
Okay, so the minute it sounds like you can't like buff bot somebody right and throw thorns
with a bunch of spell power on.
Ferrell, Mangle has been renamed to Primal Byte.
Okay, I think this is a good change
because the Mangle that Ferrell has now
is not the Mangle that most people know.
So I think it's good that they changed the name.
It's signature debuff has been removed,
so the former name no longer accurately
represented the ability.
Yeah, I think it was a good change.
I'm sad about the fog that you couldn't remove it.
the primal fury talent of sir all comes from a number of primal bite instead
primal fury talent has been renamed in the icon replace of the original blood
frenzy name and icon fix the bug where Farrell George cat could be cast on
allies oh that's funny that's actually super funny I know that Resto corrected
issue and now wild growth can land critical hits. Okay so now crit is way
better for healing druids. This just seems like a just a straight up buff
for druids except especially like especially rest of druids. Hunter pets
furious howl attack power bonus reduced to 40% it's a nerf reduced. Sonic
Plastability not probably available to batpats
Team beast no longer were some beasts that are higher than the hunters level
Okay, so dude if you're a hunter with a level 22 pet you probably have like a special pet right now
No fog is not gone
You can't turn the fog you can't turn the fog off there. There was a setting to turn the fog off and they got rid of it
I got the Marlok pet, thank you guys for that. Yeah, we got drops.
Talenting out lone wolf will no longer cause the hunter to have minus 4% damage when their pet is active.
What?
That's funny.
Survival corrected an issue and now last-rating strikes can land critical hits. Strider kick now increases movement speed by 30% for three seconds.
Okay.
Yeah.
missiles no longer checks line of sight on each missile just once in the beginning of the channel
so targets uh moving out of line of sight this is for mage okay so this is mage so i'm i'm getting
like i'm in tail hell a little bit um but yeah so so now let's look at the mage stuff sorry i'm
just getting freaking blasted uh arcane missiles no longer checks line of sight on each missile
just wants to be in the channel so targets moving out of line of sight during the channel will not
So this is a bug. This is a bug
That if if you went out of line of sight with arcane missiles, it was canceling it was just something that was never intended
Uh fire wake of fire buff duration has been increased to 30 seconds was 27. So fire got a buff
Uh wake of fire was difficult to make proper use of while leveling
Yo, happy. I thought you were in swimming today. What's up, dude?
Thank you the rain hello hello, hello
Dude, it's fun classic ass chat by the way if you guys missed classic ass earlier today with ampie myself and guzu
You guys can check it out. It's gonna be up actually it's ready to post on YouTube right now
You guys can go check it out on the classic ass podcast YouTube channel and tips actually
So it is mad prize got buffed. Don't listen to sort of I don't think I don't even know if they got buffed
I don't think I got buffed. I think I nerfed
There's not buffed
Let me see
All the paladins are messaging me mad and all the non-paladins are messaging me
Saying all paladins are buffed paladins are buffed
So I'm let me let me read it. I don't think they got buffed. I actually I think that they did they needed
I don't think they needed anything. I don't think they needed a buffer or nerf necessarily
My biggest problem with Paladin was the feel. I think the feel is kind of off.
Let me see.
Hot streak buff duration has been increased to 20 seconds.
So they increased the duration of wake of fire and hot streak.
Ignite no longer double dives on percent damage and increase modifiers.
Red Aura now scales with Spell Power. I think that's kind of… what's the co-vision of this?
It's a prop halodon buff for sure, that's mostly a tanking buff.
I wonder what the coefficient is.
Fixed a bug causing the flash of light cast animation and not play at the end of the spellcast.
Okay, that's good.
We noticed that.
That was good.
That's another plus one.
What are we at right now?
I mean, I think this was probably unnecessary.
I don't know why they did this.
Fixed an issue with consecration.
Fixed an issue where consecration would fail to apply its increased damage to some targets.
Fixed an issue where consecration's Z axis wasn't functioning properly.
There you go, that's my report.
That's my report, baby.
There you go.
That's my report.
Fixed an issue where consecration could pull targets vertically above or below the caster.
Now I wish they would have just changed consecrate outright to just be like half the damage with
half the scaling that it currently is or something, but
Holostrack's percentage of weapon damage per rank changed to
it goes up to 50%, it was up to 40% before.
It was 25, 25, 30, 30, 30, 35, 30, 40, 40.
So it's a minor buff in the beta.
This is probably a fair change.
Holostrack is like pretty ass, like it felt pretty ass.
As far as damage goes, this increases the Holy Strike's damage at all points while leveling,
increases how much it contributes to your rotation.
Early Rage of the Holy Strike didn't always feel like an upgrade when purchasing a new
rank, and we wanted to adjust that, that's true, that's exactly how it felt.
Fixed a bug with Echo of Justice causing it to have a higher than intended chance to
to activate.
Rhygiospheria Holy Threat increased to 60% was 90%, oh I guess it decreased.
Holy Threat increased to 60 was 90.
So Ryder's Spirit got nerfed to what the baseline value is in Burning Crusade.
Holy Holy Strike's cooldown has been lowered to 10 seconds with 12.
Okay.
Okay.
Improved Holy Strike, removing the talent tree.
Even though there's some cases where talents feel required
in classes like relentless strikes for rogues,
having one that reduces the cool down of a core ability
so early on in a healing talent tree,
then this feel like a talent that's required,
that was my feedback.
That was my feedback.
Yes, that was my feedback.
I was like, this feels like no matter what you're building,
like you just need to get this every time
and it just feels dumb.
You should probably reduce this to,
you should probably just,
I thought that they should just reduce it outright or get rid of it.
But what I also want is Sacred Arbiter to, I don't think Crusader Strike or Holy Strike
should be six seconds like it is in Burning Crusade, but I think it should be eight.
That was like my number.
So I was like, if you get Sacred Arbiter, you get 10% increase in damage, or you could
do more than 10% increase in damage, but you change it from Holy to physical, which makes
It kind of like crusader strike, but it also nerves it because now you're working against
armor.
So maybe you do something like that, but you should have that reduce the cooldown by two
seconds and that is something that makes sense to put in the retry.
That was what I thought.
Light's visual tool with him has been reorganized to make it more clear that the damage component
is the only version that returns some of the mana cost.
I'm not playing with it while I'm talking while I'm reading.
Holy power now increases the critical, oh yeah.
Holy power now increases the critical strike chance
of holy strike by 15% and retains all of its old effects
for a holy paladin, for a deep holy paladin
if you wanna use your holy strike, that's interesting.
Now to be fair, it should have done that, no.
Interesting, weird, okay.
I wish I could just test the aim at level 60.
Vengeance now activates off of non-periodic critical strikes.
What?
Boo!
So vengeance, okay.
So consecrate, can crit, but vengeance can't proc consecrate now.
That makes no sense.
Vengeance Maximum Stacks Lowered to 3 was 5.
Okay, so that's like what they did in Burning Crusade, no, wait, I'm just going to keep reading.
Maximum Stacks Lowered to 3, whereas the talent changed to 3.
Two-handed weapon specs damage increase reduced to two four six percent was three six nine. This is actually
Palins are gonna hate me for this. This is my feedback. I
Said I thought two-handed weapons back was too much of a damage increase at nine percent. I know I'm just like I'm a honest man
I'm honest man. I thought I should have been two four six
Sacred Arbiter now increases oh
So sacred Arbiter now increases the damage of Holy Strike by 20% at max rank is now 50%
so now now a Holy Strike does as much damage as a Seal of Command so it does as much damage
is a Silicomand proc now. So when you're now adding Silicomands into the rotation. Interesting.
So a holy strike at max rank with Sacred Arbiter is going to effectively like double your Silicomand
damage, like during the duration of 60 seconds, if you hit it on cooldown every single time
from what it was in Vanilla, Holy Strike.
Because Seela Command is 7 procs per minute.
So you have 7 procs per minute from Seela Command.
It's PPM based, so it gives you a percentage chance based on how many times you swing.
So if you have a 3.8 speed weapon and you have 7 ppm, that gives you like, you know, 44% chance, repeating of course.
It's like a 44% chance ish to proxy the command, right?
So, with that 7ppm, 60 seconds divided by 8 is 7.5, 70% holy damage will be the same
from Holy Strike and for C.L.A. Command procs.
Pretty good.
Okay.
So, it like barely over doubles what your C.L.A. Command damage is in Vanilla as far
as the DPS increase goes at max level.
of light now additionally reduces the mana cost of your seals by 20%.
I don't know if that's enough, because just the tactility of twist of light, yeah, the
mana made it horrible, but the tactility just, it feels really bad.
And seal twisting working, I don't, I'm trying to press them really hard on the seal twisting,
man, because the, the answer is, okay, well, like, let's not have the seal twisting, but
have the the seal twisting talent but man it's like it's just not it's not as fun
truthfully like there shouldn't be a world where I'm playing burning crusade
and it's just just straight up more fun you know what I mean
Yeah, you see red is peak. It's so good, man
Did you guys are in the retail Andy's thing twisty twisting his garbage? It's so good. It's so fun tons of classic paladins love it
It's so good
Like there just needs to be options
By the way, you guys who are anti steel twisting you realize I'm also saying that there should also be another option like the whole
Holy Shock thing where you can go and have the Holy Shock option and you can split the other way
Twisting sucks because you suck at it McCullough. That's why
Most of people who say twisting suckers because they suck it
Yeah
It's fun
No, I'm trolling. Yeah, I was just trolling. Um, so, well, I lost it. Where was I? Can you
try explain TBC twisting versus talent for those of us that haven't done Paladin? So basically
See how TBC seal twisting works versus the talent.
Like, here, let me just show you.
Okay, well, we'll skip through this.
But I'll just show you real quick.
I'm going to show you the rest of the patch notes.
I don't get it.
I get the breeze don't worry.
Is there, can somebody log on to Horde, Night Slayer,
and duel me outside of Shashrath?
You got healer?
So, this is basically how seal twisting works, right?
Whenever you're at the end of your swing timer, so, I'm going to explain this a little more
easily.
So, you see this buff right here?
I'm going to remove more buffs, so it's easier.
So you see seal command.
How seal command works.
Well, different seals work differently, but certain seals, whenever you cast another seal,
they'll overlap, right?
So seal command is here, okay?
Now watch whenever I do seal righteousness, when I go righteousness to command, there's
an overlap.
You see how it shows up for a second?
So this is something that they hard-coded in in Burning Crusade, because this is how
people would basically DPS or really Blood Elf Paladins would DPS because what they had
they had seal of blood. So you go command into seal of blood, command into seal of blood.
You see that? So you could also do this with command into righteousness, righteousness into
command. So you have a two-way twist with righteousness and a one-way from command to blood. But if
I go blood into command, it doesn't work. So what a seal to this is, is whenever you're
you're about to swing, right?
When you're about to swing, so at the beginning of my attack, I haven't swung yet, so I'm
going to swing as soon as I start attack, right?
So then I go, blood attack.
And that punch noise is just my weak core that says it was a successful attempt, you
know?
So again, that's a seal twist.
So the attempt, you see the first time, it was melee seal of blood, right?
Seal of command didn't proc.
But if seal of command procs was seven procs per minute, you have melee seal of command,
seal of blood, and then another seal of blood.
Or wait, oh no, my bad, here's the other seal of blood.
So melee command blood, blood.
So blood procs off of both of these.
The proc's off the white, proc's off the command.
And that's like a,
that's whenever you seal it successfully
off of a seal command proc.
Now, there's more,
like if I go here,
and there's like a bunch of different
like twisting mechanics, right?
Where, like I'll be doing arenas,
and now it's not gonna work every single time,
but let's say he's healing himself, right?
Let's say he's healing himself,
and he'll do it again,
And I'll try and pull this off.
So it doesn't always work, but
I go command into a justice.
Because it has to proc and
the justice has to proc.
So you go command and then into
justice.
So you see that stun?
So that stun came off and
it's funny because they said the
echo of justice had a higher
chance to proc.
I actually think that maybe it's
unintended, but that's how it works
classic where if a seal a command procs and then seal a justice applies you
actually have a double chance to proc because you have the white hit and the
command hit and then justice has a chance to proc on both of them. So that's kind
of a nerf it's not like they're saying it's unintended but I think it's just
something they didn't account for in the past. So if you really want to here I'm
gonna do this. So this is like a whole like there's a bunch of different like
twisting mechanics and like, uh, and I mean, literally I've won Gladiator Arena matches
doing that, you know, or it's like, oh, I get like a big twist, I get a stun off and
it like cancels a heal, you know, I get two seconds stun into a bell for another two seconds.
Now they can't heal for four seconds and they're dead, you know, because I got a whole
another swinging because I have 3.8 speed or 3.8 seconds on my swing timer, right?
So, the other thing is, like if I go like, let's say I go, I mean there's all kinds of
different weird little interactions, so I can go like Command into Justice Swing, Command,
it has to proc remember, and then I go Boom, Judge.
So, what I did there was I had the Seal of Command go off, sorry I didn't have the Seal
command go off, but I still got a Justice proc. Now if I wanted to, because I got the
Justice proc for two seconds, I have a 1.5 second global cooldown, I cast rank 5 seal
a command and then I judge command for double damage because it's a stun. So then I have
the double damage from judgment of command, right, into, you know, and I have another
stun and then I can get another double damage, right? That's a crit, so it's a quadruple
damage. It's just like all the different little things, right? I could even go like
two seconds into six seconds done, into six second repentance. And now you have somebody
locked down pretty hard. And then you also get another double damage judgment on the
repentance. So like, I mean, there's all like extra stuff, right? There's different things
that you can do by something like the Seal Twist.
But there's also like the two-way twist.
This is what I think they should do.
This is what Burning State pre-patch is like.
And you can do this, where you see righteousness, righteousness.
And then you can go two-way.
So you could do this with a faster weapon,
because you don't have to go command at the beginning
every time.
And then this is like a two-way twist.
And righteousness scales with spell power.
And with spell power and all the plus damage and stuff
you have. I think it's a pretty cool thing in, uh, in, uh, uh, vanilla, because you have
a lot more spell damage. Now we don't have that kind of spell damage in Brinnaker said
that's why I think the TBC pre-patch was so unbelievably fun because you had TBC seal
mechanics with vanilla gear. So yeah, two eight, two eight, two eight, two eight, two
business vine is the command only means pan ass well no it's it I mean that's
just part of it
yeah new players don't need to understand or you guys is all this is a
sweaty wrap down every class has a sweat what kind of an argument is that I
should like that's just like a bad faith argument every class has that I
I still don't understand why you can't do this with the talent.
So with the talent, the seals don't interact in the same way.
So the seals don't interact in the same way, and how it works with the talent is, I mean,
I can't even show it.
But I'm literally asking for them to nerf it, by the way, just so you understand this.
I have Seal of Command up. If I cast another seal, I now, with the talent, have an extra
Seal of Command. I can't show you because it's not BlizzCon. It's not in the BlizzCon
build. But now I would have my current Seal active, and then I have Command up. So it
just stays there. And then no matter what, whenever I hit next time, it applies both
skills. But it's not fun. It's not about, like, I think it's super important for the
game to feel good and be fun. Now, if you don't want a steel twist, the other option
is to go down the holy tree and you get holy shock at the 21 point and you go, you know,
28, 23. And then that's your whack-a-mole, like, rotational gameplay for if you don't
I don't like doing the seal twisting.
Being kind of the latest, okay.
I just, I don't think you're the kind of person
worth having a conversation with for saying that.
I prefer Holy Shack, but I think steel twisting should also be an option.
Yeah, that's my thing is like you should just have the option.
It shouldn't be a capstone ability though.
Hold on.
Now that I agree with, I think literally that the seal mechanics should just be the same
as Burning Crusade.
That's what I think.
Just to clarify, but that is not something that is currently on the table.
Because the Burning Crusade is the best seal mechanics.
It's so bad.
Rock Twisting!
Mmm!
Meeting!
How do you nerf seals for twisting work, but you haven't been playable for normal players?
You can just be a normal player!
so much damage. See, so this is like in vanilla. This is seal towing in vanilla. He goes command
into justice. Oh, I'm gonna go back a little more. Pops a trinket, command, stun, judge,
get a heal off, no global with the justice. Which I have with the judgment. Command, look
Look at this, command into justice, while the justice is still up, swaps to rank five,
see the command, judges command.
So he gets two double damage judgment commands.
So there it is, it crits the first one, get a heal, you lose a stack in the Zandalari.
justice, twist, rank 5 sealer command, double damage. Anyway I'm gonna go back
to the patch notes, all the all the haters are in here so you guys can suck
on my Italian handcrafted cock and I will continue reading the rest of the
fashion notes. So, here we go. All right. So, next thing.
Okay, next thing, let's look at priests.
Okay, corrected an issue, and now we're new, can it land critical hits?
Okay, so all the dots, all the dot heals can now, all the periodic heals basically can
No crit.
Anything periodic and crit now?
Yeah, that seems pretty good.
So healing in general, that's a buff to healing in general.
Powerward shield can now always overwrite an existing
Howard Shield on a target that does not have weak and soul.
Nome.
Nome.
Corrected an issue and now contingency plan
can land critical hits.
Okay.
Confounding Flash now has a cast visual.
The casting visual is now more wholly oriented
than Arcane and the sounds have been updated to match.
Okay.
That's the A.W. Blind.
night elf star shards now correctly gains resistance to spell pushback from the
twilight focused on
undead dark sacrifice no longer breaks crowd control that breaks on damage
dark sacrifices tool didn't have correctly displays that the man again
from the ability scales of spirit
so i haven't seen
so i think it's a little bit of a crime for the brakes on damage
wait so this is a nerve
because you could dark sacrifice
but if you're a cc'd if you're a decent hard cc'd you could not dark sacrifice
could you like bashing is that what it was
that's a pretty big nerve
it will be looking like a dress is character that name already exists
Okay, so the character with that name already exists
is a bug that's been there from the beginning of time in WoW.
What it means is that you've disconnected from the server
and your character has not finished completely logging out.
Your character has not finished completely logging out
before you're trying to log back in.
So give it like two minutes, it'll completely log out
and then you'll be able to get in.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, true. It's a dot. No, you're right, Moulzer. I forgot.
It's like a 15-second dot, right?
Yeah, it's a nevermind.
Yeah, let me take that back on the Dark Sacrifice.
So, yeah, Dark Sacrifice is a 15-second dot on yourself.
So if you're dotted,
that's probably a pretty necessary nerf.
I mean, it's a nerf, but it's probably pretty necessary,
because that's pretty big.
I
Didn't do my brew fast stuff in burnig said
Okay
Rogue sap now correctly flags the road for PVP when used on a target that is PVP flagged. Okay. That's just a bug before
shaman
Hey as fund it's your fleshlight delivery guy having trouble finding your address
Can you step outside and see if you can see me? Thanks in advance?
Unbelievable. Thank you for the $5. You had the wrong number. Thank you.
Lightning Bolt damage on ranks 3 and 4 increased to make these spells always
upgrade over previous ranks despite changing cast times. Wind Fury Totem.
Buff from this spell not as blaze as Wind Fury Totem instead of Wind Fury Totem
passive. Okay, on. This is a pretty big one. I know a lot of shamans, especially
elemental shamans, were like really upset about the scaling on lightning bolt.
Damage on rank 3, 4, increase in the disposal, always upgrade over previous ranks.
Flametongue Totem, bought from this film, that displays as Flametongue Totem,
instead of Flametongue Totem effect, that is hard to say.
Flametongue Totem no longer has a duration and is instantly replaced from
and placing another totem.
Oh, so you can't twist it.
Dude, I think it's dumb to have gotten rid
of totem twisting, by the way.
Cause that's like a, I feel like the gameplay
of managing your totems in the shaman
is something that makes, like it's very unique to shaman.
You know, it's like, that's like a class identity thing.
And they're basically just like,
did they completely get rid of all totem twisting?
Yeah, I like totem twisting.
Yeah, I think it's a form of skill expression,
where it's like managing your totems and stuff.
It's a nerve, because twisting totems
and you get azure plus one favor.
Yeah.
Totem toasting is not good because it impacts your group's damage, not just your own.
That's why it is good.
That's why you would totem toast.
Totem toasting is like seal toasting, but easier, kind of.
It's fun.
It's like a class thing, like managing your totems and stuff.
Even in PVP, the shawmons are always dropping different totems and all that stuff.
That's what it is.
Not really seal-twisting, it's called seal-stacking.
Yeah, I mean, seal-stacking is the term, I call it easy twist.
But I guess seal-stacking, it's like what it was in Burning Crusade, sorry, in Season
Discovery, but it's just lazy.
It seems to be a fan of all twisting, oh, Nick Twist.
Tranquil air tone and windfury tone and grace of air no longer stack, even if used by different
shamans in the same group.
Is that, wait, this is cringe, why do they do this?
Tranquil air, windfury and grace of air no longer stack even if used by different shamans
in the same group? Because now, if I'm making a group and I have two shaman, I'm like, oh,
I don't want another shaman because we already have one in their great surveyor and one for
We don't stack.
gameplay. Yeah. Okay, elemental shaman. Swap the position of the elemental fury and elemental
alacrity row talents. Critical strike damage increases early on in trees are exciting for
other specs, but it's not as exciting for the core spec while leveling, since they don't
have enough critical strike chance to really appreciate it. That is true, true statement.
So we're moving one of the better talents for elemental shaman functionality early in
the tree to allow them to feel like they're hitting important progression moments.
Something elemental has lacked in the early levels.
We understand that this affects enhancement shaman's critical strike damage or spells,
but we will use this room created to add more to enhancement shaman in the future.
Cool.
You know what, this is what I would like to see with enhanced shaman.
I think the priority for enhanced shaman needs to be two-handed.
That is like the class fantasy of a two-handed, sorry, the classic shaman is like the big
big two-hander boom, Winfury, right?
Cool, but I would also, and this is like a pipe dream,
sort of, it's kind of a pipe dream, and I have no idea
how this is even humanly possible to fit all the different
options into the talents.
I do think,
some people don't like this, but I do think that,
If you have the option or the capability of being a dual-wheeled shaman, you should be
able to do that.
But I don't think there should be a clear cut difference in the throughput of a dual-wheeled
or a two-handed shaman.
There should be a difference in the play style and the tactility of the class and how you
DPS.
That's kind of where the differentiation is.
The problem is that alone is pretty difficult.
alone leaving out the third part, which is I do think that shamans, enhancement shamans
should be able to off-tank some stuff, kind of similar to a prop palette in vanilla.
I think of your three primary tanks, but then an enhanced shaman should have roughly vanilla
prop palette and level of tanking ability.
That's what I think.
It's too big of a burst, that's why they made a dual-wheeled litter.
I think it's fine.
Because you make that decision.
That is player agency.
So basically what I mean by that is the player should know that, hey, I could be using a
two-handed and it's just, you know, nothing, nothing, nothing, and then, well, bam, massive
wind fury with the two-handed, you know. Law of the burst damage on ranks one and two increased
about 10% more base damage than the lightning bolt rank learned around the same level. Enhancement,
rage of the far seer no longer increases the shaman spell casting speed. Developers notes,
range of the four, oh yeah, wait, the range of the four C or spellcasting speed was not
necessary to include for the core functionality of this ability, so we removed it.
I mean, because it's so deep in the tree, maybe, but it is nice to have things that go
across, you know.
The only rest of the shaman thing that changed correct in issue now, Riptide, Concrete, Warlock,
Cool tip of Lifetap has been updated to correctly display the amount of life converted in only
states that it scales the spirit.
Voidwalker sacrificed now correctly scales of 10% of the Warlock Spell healing.
Sunder Armor corrected the threat values on all ranks, including a small increase in
threat generated from attack power.
Corrected the threat values on all ranks, including a small increase in threat generated
from attack power. Okay, a little tanking buff, I guess, like they want sender armor
to be used by tanks. Protection, swap the positions of the Bastion and focus rage talents.
We want to give players focus rage sooner to smooth out progression as opposed to more
damage from Bastion. They should smooth out some of the feeling while leveling his protection
before obtaining shield slam. This makes sense. I mean, I think talents that are going to
be more noticeable while leveling should be better, like it should be put up higher in
the tree, it's just better, because of whatever it might be, right, whether it's like, for
example, we talked about crit damage, you don't have enough crit, so you don't really
notice it, maybe you should just put this a little bit lower in the tree.
Yeah, so if you want to level his protection before you get shield slim, it should make
you feel a little bit better, I guess.
Arms.
Bloodthrill's chance to activate increased, so is the arms buff, increased to 4, 8, 12,
16, 20.
Okay, that's big, big buff.
They doubled the chance for bloodthrow to activate.
Bloodthrow only activates off of main hand melee attacks, including cleave and heroics,
right?
Slam's cool down has been increased to 18 seconds was 15 seconds improved slam
now reduces the cool down of slam by one and a half or three seconds
what was it before
I'm pretty sure it was 15 before.
Okay, so what they did was they added three seconds to the slams cool down and they basically
they took improved slam and they basically made it to where like if you wanted to be
a slam spec warrior, then you actually had to go improve slam.
So it doesn't do anything if you were a slam warrior, but because you added three seconds
to it, but if you have improved slam, it's the same because it's still 15 seconds.
that way, Slam gets nerfed a little bit for, I guess, fury protection even, yeah, okay.
No one's going Slam. Yeah, I mean, I know there's like some Slam Warriors that weren't happy
with how it feels. Oh my gosh, there's so many patch notes.
Races, no, change Eureka, this is the big one, change Eureka on every class to discount
50%, sorry, 10% mana, rage or energy abilities.
Okay, so this used to be 50%, didn't it?
Oh, they didn't get rid of totem twisting, they got rid of stacking for the lazy shum
that don't twist.
I disagree hard about them being a vanilla Paladin tank.
They have four talents that increase tanking, like just give them a taunt.
There's a reason why Paladins got their taunt in TBC.
It's just ass.
If they don't want them to tank, redesign the talents.
I wasn't super clear on what I was saying.
I said their tanking capability should be about that of a protection pound in the general
law.
Yeah.
So, not that it plays the same way or anything, I mean, if you want to give them a taunt, fine,
But no, they don't have a direct
taunt because Earthshock is not a
direct taunt.
I'm gonna draw, he's talking about
Enhance Shaman.
They're not a main raid tank class,
yeah, they're just not.
So like, I think they should be
like off tanks.
I think there are more taunt
in me and Boston than other
tauntable bosses.
So this is another thing that a
lot of people just don't know
about this game, and they just
talk shit, and they just have no
have no idea.
Hark who's like a badass vanilla prop paladin.
Most of the bosses in vanilla, I'm pretty sure it's most, but an awful lot of them are
not even, you can't even taunt them in the first place.
So not having a taunt doesn't really matter.
Like even what's an even bigger problem for a paladin is they don't have any oh shit buttons.
They don't have any big defenses or anything and they can just kind of die.
get crushed. They don't have the stats to be like it's hard to get all the defense they
need while also getting the stamina while also getting the spell power. That's their
biggest problem. So heart kind of hits the nail on the head. It's like, well, a lot of
these things don't even, they're taunt immune. So like, what do we, what are we talking about
here? You know, off tank able to think five man's is good enough. Yeah. They can't have
spelled DBS two hand dual wheeled, the heel and tank. Yeah. It's just, you're giving them
everything. Literally every place. Yeah. Which I think it's fine. I mean, I think it's fine
to give you multiple play styles, you know, I play paladin. I think that's fine. But
no, why do shamans not get no shit button? That's what I'm saying. They shouldn't. They
They should be like the vanilla prop palette.
Everyone pressed on tuning at level 20?
Yeah.
I mean, well, all this stuff is for stuff that we haven't even played.
Nobody watching this has played any of this yet, right?
We don't know.
It's all just projections that we're making based on what we think it's gonna be like a
level 60.
Anyway, that's fun.
What was that, oh yeah, human, okay, that's fine, so continue, human, human, change the
will to survive visual to match the spell magic instead of will of the forsaken, okay,
a visual change. Torren, cultivation now has a player level requirement for every herb.
The level required is equal to the herb's level required to pick it divided by five.
Herbs that require level, sorry, herbs that require higher than 300 herbalism skill to pick
can be cultivated at player level 60.
I think they should get rid of cultivation.
Do people with tanking not know sunders for tanking?
I've only seen one warrior using it.
So what happens with like the meta of vanilla, like in 2004, 2005 vanilla, it was like, wait
for the tank to put up at least four sunders.
We need five sunders before we DPS.
But what people found out over time is that the Sunder doesn't actually generate that
much threat versus just like, just trying to send it with as much damage as you can.
So the meta of putting sunders on the boss went from a tank warrior putting sunders up
to hey, all the warriors in the raid hit Sunder one time except for the main tank, who's gonna
hit it, he's just gonna start his threat rotation.
So that's why it changed.
Yeah, but I think they want Sunder to be a little bit better.
So, my name got flagged. Wait, how many of you guys got your name flagged? They should
just change cultivation to sometime double herb drop. I think they should just get rid
of cultivation. I think the tauren need another active or something because you have planes
running. You have planes running. You have, what's their other passive? 5% stamina and
1% hit. You have war stomp as their active. And I just think they should have another
active. I just feel like cultivation just doesn't feel good. Other people can loot your
cold fish. That's so funny. That's terrible. Yeah, I just think it needs something. Like
we talked about like a battle move. I don't know, like some kind of like call of the herd,
right? Where it like gives everybody in like a radius, like a little heel or something,
or like some kind of bull rush where it like dashes forward, apparently high mountain
I'm torn and retail have an ability called Bull Rush, I was told, I didn't know.
Is aggro management a thing in, yeah, M-classic plus, yeah, it is.
But we don't have threat meters, so it's hard to see.
Touch of the grave no longer breaks CC or activates from spells and abilities that don't
have a damage component to them.
Okay, so this is a nerf to touch the grave.
This means that Shadow Ward pain activates it on cast but not on periodic damage.
Distractable, or to distract with activating touch of the grave, that's so funny.
So you can't pull rogues and druids out of stealth with distract and activating and you
won't activate it off of a pick pocket.
Dude, it was activating off of pick pocketing?
That's so funny.
Oh, yeah, it distracts level 22.
I mean, I forgot what level they get distract, but I mean, that means it was in there on
their internal beta, but you imagine pickpocketing somebody and they take damage and that's somebody
with a mob, and you're still like, you're stealthed.
So like, does it even aggro?
Spells like Polymer have already been broken by a touch of the grave, but Polymer will
no longer be able to activate it. Okay. Oh, that's, that's probably a buff to mage, to
undead mage. Because imagine you paw that more, for then it does touch the grave and
it breaks it immediately. Okay, cool down manager. The cool down manager, wow forever,
is intended to enhance gameplay by pulling critical information from the buff bar action
bar and placing it in a fully customizable location. But default the cool down manager
is disabled and been able.
So this is an OmniBar?
Truid, Mage, Pre-Swar, and Warlock
are available for testing Cool Down Manager.
Additional classes will be available in future updates.
The most desired feedback for this feature
is currently spells that you wish were tracked by default.
The Cool Down Manager is not in support spell ranks.
This will be resolved in the future right after.
So this is basically like a built-in OmniBar.
Gamepad support class specific flyouts have been added to the action bar interfaces of some classes
Shapeshift flyout for druids pet control or a fly out for paladin scans fly out for warriors the pet bar no longer replaces the
bottom gamepad action bar for hunters and warlocks
um
New options have been added to the gamepad alpha section of the game options
Um
Use compact action bar replace the normal game pad action bar layout with one that only shows the currently active action
Sorry currently active action bar at any given time
So this is all for game pad stuff, right so it's just basically different different options how many of us have played with game pad
Is this how steel twisting is done with us
I'm ringing out my shirt. I'm ringing out my wet shirt. Gamepad is great, but it needs
to be better. Yeah, I think some of the gamepad stuff is pretty cool, even though I don't
play with a controller. I think it is cool. I'm figuring out how to play WoW in a kind
controller, like as far as like, sorry, how to make WoW playable and the controller is
pretty impressive.
Okay, let's go.
We can skip the rest of this.
Work in progress for controller support.
Items.
A handful of guns and bows were not correctly consuming or using ammunition.
They have been corrected.
Number of quests have had their rewards updated to the correct item level.
A small number of early cast rewards have been adjusted.
A small number of early cast rewards have been adjusted.
who owned or that means.
Wizard oil, minor wizard oil has been reverted
to classic era value of eight spell power,
lesser wizard oil, the 16 and wizard oil, the 24.
Brilliant wizard oil remains unchanged.
Wands, wands no longer gain any additional damage
from the user spell damage.
This is honestly probably a pretty big change.
I think they wanted to give wands some kind of scaling
to make it not feel so bad if you ran on a mana
and you were wanting, but dude, from what I heard,
If you were like a priest or I mean any any one class with some considerable spell damage. It was just stupid
Machine gun one priest was busted. That's what I heard like it was actually like so unbelievably strong
But people have this perception that wands are weak and they're really not that weak to begin with wands already strong
Yeah, like they're not that weak to begin with
So like but I think just the perception is that wandering is like ass
I think the I think if they did have some scaling, I think that'd be okay, but it would have to be incredibly small
like
What what was it scaling it was the percentage at before?
Like I think if it was like 10% or less scaling on spell power, I think that would be okay, but
It was at least 30% it was 30. I
I think it would if it's if it's like 10% max then maybe it's like okay, but yeah, they got rid of it completely
Quests okay a bunch of quest changes. Do you guys care about going through the quest changes?
Several times request for shareable which granted the receiving player quest item and shared
They didn't want to have some things shareable.
Gunn Moreau, Stolen Browser, Fasser, Respawn Time, anything.
Let's see, I'm just gonna skim through this and see if anything is notable.
Increased the amount of crates for stolen chanting supplies.
Book return, no problem, there's the extra book bag.
That's funny, I had this problem.
Oh, Merlut camps around Crystal Lake will respawn more quickly, okay.
Mother Fang respawns a bit slowly.
Dude, Mother Fang was respawning super, super fast and always dropping the leather chest
with a stamina on it.
Shining Arun and Arun respawns more quickly.
The quest item may now be looted by all party members.
Okay, Nimzy now respawns more.
Wait, that's crazy because I felt like, I felt like Narf and Nimzy were respawning fast
already.
Helen Peltskinner, you can learn just kidding from Helen Peltskinner.
Well, I have a crest there, cool.
Chaspillode, we're a little bit more deadly than intended, so we're taking their candles
away.
Do not anticipate any fallout from this threat.
Maybe they're going to reduce respawn time.
Syllabus, concierge, rather than move from the beta set in the future, we'll return that.
Okay, so this is all like alpha stuff that we can't even see, right?
Okay.
New to this build, known issues.
in curses? Do not probably track if you drop your target and reacquire a target with an
existing bane or curse. Hearthstone cooldown cannot be tracked. Pre-stracks all spells
by default. Arcane blast cannot be tracked. Managing requires an additional spell to be
cast by the mage to properly begin tracking its cooldown. Creating or changing party composition
may transfer players to a different world. Dude, this one sucks. This is the most annoying
Pog.
Pet cooldowns cannot be tracked.
Item enhancements cannot be tracked.
The mini map installment has a display issue
and we fixed in a later build.
Personal resource display doesn't show combo points.
Our full known issues post is here.
Okay.
Good to know.
we can skip the rest of this.
Cool. Overall, so overall a lot of the changes that we're seeing for this first patch, interestingly
enough, most of it doesn't actually even affect us directly.
A lot of it's for stuff outside of our level cap range.
Now there's like a few little things, but the overwhelming majority of it.
I don't know.
It's pretty nothing burger.
It's not that much.
They said the changes were at least one week behind.
So where did they say that?
You can only cultivate all planes running.
Well this truck is buffed slightly, yeah, I don't know, let me, let me, okay, anyway,
so it's a little outro because it's probably a YouTube video.
Okay, are you logging off?
No, I'm not, but you too, Astro.
Thank you guys so much for watching.
I mean, there's a lot of stuff happening here
during the Classic Plus, during the WoW forever beta.
So it's a very exciting time.
There's a lot of development and feedback and stuff
that we have a chance to really get in on.
It's very, very exciting.
It's very fun.
I would expect them to be doing at least a patch a week.
That's what my expectation is.
I hope they do more.
But I would expect like one patch a week minimum.
And hopefully as time goes on, and somebody, I don't know where, I don't even know if this
is true, but somebody, one guy in chat says that allegedly they're like a week behind on
the pushes that are like the changes that are public.
So whatever they pushed today was like a week behind, so to speak.
So like it's like before the beta even started.
I don't know if that's true.
I don't think there's a whole lot that change.
There's like a bunch of little things,
but we'll see how it plays out over the course
of the next few days, playing the game,
seeing how things feel.
A lot of the stuff we don't even get to see
at the current level 20 beta.
So yeah, we'll figure it out.
Anyway, oh, Zyrin said it.
Beta builds are always more than a week
behind what we're actually fixing.
We're aware of many issues, so if you don't see something addressed, it may be in our
next builder under discussions and can't speak on it yet.
Okay, good to know.
Anyway, thank you guys for watching the YouTube video.
Let me know what you guys think.
Let me know what you guys would like to see and leave some feedback, leave some comments,
all that stuff.
Thank you guys so much for watching and we'll see you guys in the next YouTube video.
thing is that's man TV fall everywhere. Cool. Sad. Does he
righteous fury nerve? Well, here's the thing. The righteous
I'm just feeling nervous there, but you're red or I got a big buff.
Okay, let's log in and actually take a look at some of this stuff.
Oh, they actually deleted my account.
Is Riders Fury what everyone's using the levels of quickly?
you know, righteous furious is a threat ball for tanks.
What are the best rates for tanking?
I guess it depends on your class.
For what class?
Torren, yeah, but if he's talking about Paladin.
What's next, Rustream? Tomorrow. Yeah, I'll do a little bit of Rust every day, so you
just got to make sure you're here. Is that right? Or is it not Snapshotting? No, it scales
with spell power. I mean, it didn't, it didn't, I mean, it didn't, and aura is active at all
time so it wouldn't really snapshot.
We're still watching a live rather than YouTube main music, thanks dude.
I need to play a Warrior.
People keep talking about Warriors, I think I need to play one.
We should roast from probably in that afternoon. Let me see the shag wagon
story. Oh, blue post on name violations.
We are in the process of issuing forced name changes to characters thrown to be
in violation of our character naming policies that were created in the Frera
Beta. Additionally, we have removed beta access for some users who created names
that were far outside of our code of contact.
These are dual names with a lot of players, new levels of creativity and personalization
of their characters.
Some took this opportunity to reveal too much about themselves and will no longer be personalizing
its purpose.
Olympus has fallen!
Olympus has fallen!
All of Olympus just got banned, dude.
Oh, it's so funny.
That's so funny.
Let's see, the World of Warcraft team takes the safety and inclusiveness regularly.
Seriously, these actions are performed directly by the World of Warcraft development team.
We're individually reviewed.
The customer service team cannot and will not assist with any appeals.
Our system for enforcing naming standards will be coming online very shortly.
We'd appreciate testers refraining from testing this system
as you run their scripting actions using access to beta.
Let's keep your character in perspective on the policy.
Oh, that is funny.
That is funny.
Wait, where's the anvil?
Okay, let's see what has changed.
Sacred Arbiter increases the damage, causes a refreshable adjustment, effects on a target.
Okay, so Holy Strike is still 10, okay, so Holy Strike is now gone, that's right, Improved
is now gone. Crusade is now gone as a talent. Dude, this is a giga nerf to Paladin. Vengeance
only gives you 3% additional damage. 1% stacking 3 times for 30 seconds. So they took away
crusade which is the the two to four percent damage they took away two anti-weapon spec which was
nine percent now it's six percent they took a vengeance away down to three vengeance almost
isn't even worth it anymore
I think this is a nice change for twist of light because the mana cost is like
The mana cost is so big, but I just, I still don't think this is good. I think it should just be,
like, in my perfect world, what I would imagine is just do the TBC seal mechanics,
and then this is something else entirely, twist of light is something else entirely.
And you basically have the option of going like a seal twisting build, or you have the option of
going like a holy shock like button rotation build. I think holy shield should be the 11
point talent and Templar's Bulwark should be the 31 point. Swift Judgment 21, Improved
Seal of Fury should be 16, holy shield at 11 and then Templar's Bulwark probably needs
a buff for it to be a 31 point talent because otherwise people are just going to skip this
talent entirely. You'll have the Prott Paladins going down to 21, they would get 26, like
a tanking Paladin will go 26, increase the third generate a Holy Shrike. No, they'll
probably get Ironcred still. Yeah. But then they would go Holy Shock. So then Holy Shock
would be mandatory, basically for Prott and for Rhett. Holy Shock would be mandatory at
at that point, which that's not necessarily good either.
I already think this Holy Shock build
is gonna be way stronger than 31 red, like way stronger.
Yeah, we will see.
I mean, I think this is crazy.
This one, I understand.
I thought 9% was too much.
This, I think is crazy.
Like, I almost think this is an accident.
Like I think it has to be an accident.
So also this wasn't in the patch notes.
Well, it's what's a lot of work this is, but probably both damage and time correctly to
be more active gameplay.
I feel like pounds don't need more damage, I just think it's too much.
Why deflection over benediction?
The mana costs are so low at this level that benediction doesn't really do anything.
Like 10% mana.
I mean, Sila command is 65 mana.
So what's 10% of 65?
What now?
Right, so I'm putting five talent points in
for like something to lose to save six mana.
Or seven, I don't know, it might be seven.
If it, I don't know if it rounds up, it probably rounds up.
Hello?
Why did people say 8.1?
I don't want to talk about it.
Losing 6% for mentions, 3% for transpec, 2% for trade.
I just don't speak to them anymore, they're in the whole spec.
I mean, I think actually I think getting rid of crusaders fine crusaders is weird weird talent
The canal is still glowing, but it's not like it looks better now at least you can see the detail it's still glowing pretty big
Oh, wait, listen, listen.
They brought the old, the sound that they used was like a crashing sound that sounded terrible.
human death sounded back. I am gonna miss the gachi spam. Wait, is it, is it? Wait, I
can't log out. Wait, am I stuck in WoW forever?
Oh wait, wait, wait, it typed, it typed, it typed as a DD.
Do-do.
Wait, is it working?
Oh.
Uh...
What race should I make my warrior?
More in for planes running?
Well, I'm gonna level everything.
I can make a skyborne druid
Cause I want to do the sky born area.
What is the worry you're going to do with planes running?
I don't know.
.
.
.
I feel like Paladin is just kind of a node- I think it got buffed for level 20.
got buffed for level 20, but it got nerfed overall.
I think Torn is the play, 1% hits gonna be really nice.
I wanna play a warrior so I can give more feedback on it
cause I feel like there's not a whole lot of warrior feedback
and a lot of warriors like my warrior, my warrior.
So I wanna try and help with that.
I don't know if I want to start him right now.
Herbert Hornwood.
I think they should.
Oh, did they add bg's?
That ends the end.
Did they add bg's and I just didn't see it just my two cents as someone who doesn't play this game. I
Can't tell what the freak is happening no matter what you pick
But you should play the new race so I can see people and chat argue about it
True
I think I'm gonna do an orc mage
Okay stands dad
The level 14 mighty warrior actually you know what we need to do we need to do a Hall of Thames
Yeah stands dad needs to do a Hall of Thames
Okay.
Um, anybody else?
I don't know.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I was just kidding.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Um, anyone want to run the hall of things?
Don't whisper me for gilding bites because, uh, I, I don't even buy
for much of this thing.
Oh, they fixed it.
They fixed the, uh, asterisk.
Palin's got nerfed.
They got buffed at level 20, they got nerf late game.
They- I think they did fix the memory leak.
Oh, actually, I don't know, my-
Maybe not.
Maybe. Actually, I'm gonna log out of this one.
Nooo- Oh my gosh.
Wait, how come they reported that guy and didn't ignore him automatically?
Wait, now I can't right click him.
It won't be right click many more to ignore him. So oh my gosh spamming
Wait for this baby 11 months sup, bro
Go.
Um, um.
Okay, let's see.
Okay, we need one more debuff.
I gotta get my quests.
Yeah, we gotta do the Hall of Fame's quests.
Why are you rocking a 4x3 ratio?
Do you know what 4x3 is?
Wait, or do I know what a 4x3 is?
Am I wrong?
I'm playing a Hunter right now.
What aren't you rocking?
True.
Weapons range.
Hey, what okay, um I need a bullet sack
If I want to switch to a gun
How do I get a bullet sack
Where's it called
I'm a boy bag
What do you call it emma
Ammo bullets
Oh
Holy
Yeah, it's always so funny if somebody accidentally copy pastes, somebody accidentally copy pasted
a link or something like that, copy pasting something and they tap into the wrong window
and they accidentally post it in chatter, you know, it's so funny.
One-Handed Shield and Prod is loving and strong, but two-hand and in general, even you can
feel rage-trivation.
That's what everybody says.
It's saying like basically you're
So this is what I would suggest I think what they should do I
Think that if they want to normalize it
Sure, you can kind of do that, but there should still be a range
Just they should just take the range that it already is in classic and they should just squeeze it down a little bit
Maybe it doesn't scale as hard up, but it doesn't the floor is not as low
Like how would you warrior players how would you guys feel about that?
I know the things about release hopefully.
Well they were rushing anything but I don't know if they will.
They can raise baseline range in or they can lower the range across the spouse. I think they need to raise the region
And it's probably better
I miss Polly true me too
Do you think it's time we can't play the other faction on pp ruleset?
Yeah, I think I only think it's done because there's only one account
Sorry because there's only one server
Yo Boston, how are you man?
I'm doing good man
I'll be done getting in.
We're reducing the rewards from quests in dungeons to green except for the final caption.
Wait, Frank, where did you read that?
Dude, the Hagen Dance.
Dude, why am I so hungry?
I'm like ravenous right now.
I'm very hungry.
Cinema.
I
Did I had two burgers today, why am I so hungry today?
You're gonna see Street Fighter, I NEED to.
It affects bear tanking too, really
It's hard to get a get a read if the game is truly headed and go to bad direction
Just going up to today's changes. It seems bad. I don't think we don't even really know yet
Dude, I want somebody you know what I want I want somebody to make a make a
Making an animal on that like you burned too many calories seal twisting
I think so I want I want somebody to make an add-on that randomly moves your camera like this
Oh, I guess you kind of have that like a cinematic camera
Like while you're flying
Like it or like an action cam like you know in GTA if you play GTA 5 and you press the the camera button while you're driving
And I'm talking about
There exists really
I'm trying to remember where the quest is
She was the original more comment movie I did dude it was so bad
But it was like it was a good kind of bad
Well, I think the first one was not as bad and the second one was just like how did this movie ever?
Like, how do we get here?
Am I remembering that right?
The first one was like, bad, but it was good enough to make us that one.
And the second one was just like, how did this even happen?
100% correct.
Okay, GGs.
All right, well I got banned again, blacklisted, internet bad boy, S-Fan television.
I don't think you got banned.
You just forgot to pay your guild dues.
Here, I got you covered.
That supreme cult, I mean, guild leader can be a real ball buster sometimes.
There is no, there is no frikafan test or quest or contest.
No, I mean, people, people see that I'm on the rust drops list, but like they just, they
missed it.
You got, you got to come back tomorrow.
We're going to do some rust tomorrow.
We'll do a little bit of rust every, every, uh, every day.
We'll do a little bit of rust every day. Don't worry.
That cornwood cornwood will come back and do time.
But I'll be honest, the rust drops didn't hit this year. Like they didn't the past.
I mean, last time you guys remember the old rust drops?
You got a rust drop and you're like 30 K viewers. I, you know what I mean?
What the hell I don't know what happened here what time tomorrow we'll just be
map doing somewhere. No, I think there's a lot of people. I think there's a lot of your
playing rust, but also the thing is with those rust things, like whenever there's like a rust
event going on. Oh, sorry. Try again. Wait, where'd you go? Is that you? Hold on. Try again,
Gunbeard McShootie
Yes, my disciples
We must attain the sword
of a thousand truths
How do you get Yellow Glow on Sword?
That's a specific sword itself that has a Yellow Glow.
Why are you in Princess Wraith's Winning Event, then I'm rushing, you're not trying to play it.
Well, here's the bottom line.
The bottom line is that I agreed to it months ago.
I agreed to it months ago, and this is like my main thing that my channel started with
ten years ago, and it just got announced three weeks ago, and it's just the circumstances.
I mean, you only have to watch for one hour to get the drop, and I'm still going to play
it.
Whenever, by all means, I should not even play Rust, but I'm still going to do that for
you tomorrow, so you probably shouldn't complain about it.
But by all means, I should not play Rust, right, especially when I have so much to do
that just got announced two weeks ago, you know?
Well, I had fun playing it today, but I'm just being honest with you, right?
And I will have fun playing it whenever I play it tomorrow, but like, I got work, you know?
I gotta go to work. I gotta save Azeroth.
Serves me terrible today. Yeah
I shunned yeah, let's go get this close
You like the two names?
Yeah, I actually do.
I'm two quarters of a hot dog.
I should think of something that I'm two quarters of a hot dog.
I don't understand the hate for two names.
Yeah, me neither, actually.
I think the two name hate is crazy.
Don't you have to go somewhere else before that quest I thought I'd go somewhere else
Yo, clinic.
How are you?
No.
Speak with Earthseer Forsyte and ask him to lend you his Forsyte.
Your feet on the ground.
Please give me your Forsyte.
What can I do for you?
Great to meet you.
This isn't the right quest.
Listen, some people are really, really, really, really freaking uncreative.
They struggle to even come up with one name, and that name is usually stolen from someone
else and looks stupid like Sleggalax.
And now, you want them to come up with two names.
Two names.
We glossed over bullet sack way too quickly.
Wait, nobody make a character name bullet sack, please.
X Legolas X Jackson Legolas Jackson Wait, did they fix the Hunter Bow thing?
They're not yet
Who's leader Oh Numa is leader
I
Was a bit of a yard just wanted to get stuck
I
Yeah, honours are fricking insane dude.
Okay, dark iron map.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Hold on.
and
It is and will not be traded it doesn't matter
Thank you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Okay, sick, new weapon.
I kind of want to, I mean, should we take a level 20?
I, hello?
Stop.
Stop stop
Three there am oh frick. Yeah, I would go ahead and go to bed. I can find somebody else that's like our level
Yeah, thank you, Sylvanna
Now, everybody got banned?
Yo, thank you for the raid from Asmabold.
Oh, wait, no.
He didn't raid, never mind.
I just assumed whenever that guy said that.
That is an Olympus.
That ain't got a name banned.
Oh, wait, the music, yeah, the music is not playing on YouTube, I wonder why, let's take a look.
Is that very good music now?
YouTube!
I want it to change it to be something other than just the wild sand track all the time.
So I got one dungeon quest
This weapon skill like not matter for ranged at all. I think I like actually think it doesn't
Holy, wait, I just got this gun for no reason.
Calibrated Blunderbuss?
Frick.
Oh, whatever.
Oh
Whatever I'm trying to our bollocks
As suspended for an offensive new oh wait, that's actually lame you got suspended for an offensive name you get these leave five years ago or five days ago
Wait hold on dude
My skill in guns just jumped. Have you ever seen this?
You get two skill in one your skill in guns increased to nine and then your skill in guns increased to 11
I've never had that happen before. Do you guys see that?
And I've only ever seen it go one at a time
Reportive or cheating Frick
911
Never forget chat
How did
Unforgettable party for real? I don't know if I'm going to history. Never forget Chad, the party was amazing.
Yeah, I think that was getting nerfed
Everyone including Saddox said W on the buffs.
I think it's a net nerf.
I don't think it's bad, I actually think the Paladins were fine-ish, and I think nerfing
them a little bit is not- I don't think it's a big deal.
Also, you gotta keep in mind, unless you're giving it real.
A lot of other people that play Paladin are retail Paladin players, okay?
So it's like, and they're not necessarily classic Paladin players.
So it's like...
There's a little bit of nuance there, you know?
True, guilty.
Ret aura less cooldown of Hearthstone.
Retribution aura now reduces the cooldown of Hearthstone.
I tune in for Pally, what is this Hunter?
I'm leveling everything.
Holy strike, you noob.
Do you know, do you know, do you know what else?
Do you know what else they changed unfollowing lamal dude you're so angry it's insane I
Said before it's an early patch
It's an early like a turn on patch. It's an early level buff. I
Look you can unfollow all you want. You're the one missing out
Also, you're genuinely retarded not because of anything you not because of your intelligence, but socially you have such a major like lack of emotional stability is insane.
I thought you were Joe. I thought you're making a joke read or and reduce the cool down of her so I laughed at what I thought was a funny joke.
Please leave. Please don't follow one rep outed your loss. That is crazy.
That is crazy how insensitive you are I
Love cuz I thought you were making a joke which by the way would have been very funny
Red or I know
But yeah, it's an early level buff into late level, it's a late level nerf.
That was so funny.
Snipes, think of it as six months of time, ffff, thanks for giving him a sub.
Yeah, I did the crash out for me laughing at what I thought was a joke
I'm crazy. I've been to our weapons and tenders show she's I've been waiting for this for years
I don't know about that one
I mean, it's kind of hard to just give advice just off the rip.
Like what is like one thing you need to know?
I mean, the biggest thing is like just general tanking stuff.
That's like the number one thing.
Right?
knowing how to tank and like just knowing how to like position yourself out
there where is the other quest isn't there there's two inside two outside
don't give them all back to you right yeah pretty much every nipples
Yeah, that's the number one thing is just like knowing like positioning and stuff
like that and that goes for all things. Red aura does not reduce your instinct.
I'm just laughing, I'm crashing out because I'm laughing.
I would have thought it was a joke.
That was amazing.
I'm going to climb up the rock, I'm going to the rock.
I'm going to climb up to the rock.
Can I climb up to the rock?
Can I climb up to the rock?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
No jokes in the loud section.
I was insane.
I
Was fanned I mean I can't believe you would laugh at what was so obviously a joke
I am on following and you'll never see me in here ever again ridiculous
Unprofessional very unpaladin like a view
You're really there, you're not.
They're gonna buff sky operational? I think so.
Okay, oops.
Where do I?
and
I do this I delete an offensive name five days ago and I never logged into the character
that's so frustrating.
I don't know.
I would try and put it in a ticket and try and make your case.
Don't do drugs, choose who's bad.
I need this more than you, I think.
All right, so I have three and there's two in here.
Uh, okay, I'm ready, let's go ahead and, oh wait, four people, wait, we forgot to get
a fifth person. Well, Hunter, I'm playing every class. I want to I want to learn every
single class in the beta. So I'm going to turn off taunt. Can you summon? You need to
level 20 to summon. Oh wait, we can actually. I didn't realize 2 was level 20. Okay, let's go summon this guy.
Wait, you guys are all level 20, I...
Oh yeah, whatever.
It's 100% fun, I think 100% is so fun.
That's an area so cute.
I'm trolling these guys.
You're gonna get that because I'm leaving.
Okay, all right, did you see that band?
They bought everything all of them. They didn't.
Okay
My man we're looking at Robin Hood true actually he does kind of look Robin Hood he doesn't he
Let me in.
Do you think it's okay to make Warcraft Forever for both retail players and classic players?
I don't think that you make it for either of those.
I think that you make it for me and nobody else.
Every mustache back for release, I would never do that.
Kick stream shows Rust.
Ooh, mm-mm-mm.
Can somebody change my kick section?
One of the mods, change my kick section.
There are the reds cast on talent, being sealed of blood, and changing seals of singing back.
I just want them to put the burning crusade seal mechanics in, thank you Zanigu.
i just wanted to
put the burning crusade seal mechanism
because i think you have in the two-way twist of the righteousness or the one-way
twist
there's no blood but i think it's okay that there's no blood
but if they made seal of blood the thirty one point and then
but i feel like that's
that might be boring i don't know it's so hard to tell it's so detailed man
Yeah, it's so hard, man.
Does anything make sense?
Well, you don't understand that you guys saying that you just you legitimately just
do not understand the game whatsoever.
Like you should literally never talk about the game.
You guys do not understand.
I'm just so like...
That's not what their cap really has in two ways.
It's like Rapunzel guns, true.
Will my previous submissions transfer to the official Tailor Decker package at your channel
or do I need to re-upload them?
Unfollowed BTW
They live it up a bit by dollars
How are you doing DC to open over?
Special streamer access have a direct direct pipe straight to the blizzard headquarters
I
Spirit Wraith drape
Is that worth I mean the other club is gonna be better later
there.
How does melee weapon work?
Wait, how did that restart?
Oh, server 50-minute restart.
Oh, speedrun, speedrun, speedrun.
The Transpeed Run is 15 minutes.
Server, greetings. We need to restart the beta to pick up a few server stability fixes.
Realms will be back soon, this shouldn't be an extended downtime. Thanks. Restart in
$1500
Wait $1500
But what am I doing? Why am I leathering? I'm skidding
When you hurry when it hurts be doing speedrun check give me the timer you guys got to call it out one of our changes
I
Bleyset banned my way to access for using my real last name as my character last name.
My in-game name was Carnage Coudonk, WDF.
Uh, I don't know.
I thought your name was uh,
I mean, yeah I don't know.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
My name is Paul Menazari.
Yeah, that sucks.
Dude, I don't know, like I would try and put in a thing.
I would really try and put in a...
Get to our words.
Oh my God.
He asked for a countdown.
I've been practicing for this.
I can do this 3029, 2820 said the most batting on Moore.
224, 23, 2019, Zenith 17, 16, 14, 12, 11, 22, 12, 12, 12,
It just stopped.
It just stopped.
Wait, did this song not just play?
Chad, belt out of face, Melter. Right here.
The music is so loud chat won't hear this TTS saying him gay.
I
I
Why the Pekko attack that
Wait, did they say there's gonna be a rollback?
Oh my gosh, he's freaking all mailed.
How do you, how do you melee twist?
Oh, Raptor Strike, I have Mongoose Bite or whatever, right?
No, no.
No, Mongoose Bite is a dodge.
I do have Raptor Strike.
Oh.
You think you can stop the greatest hasted history?
I nearly thought that way.
Oh
Dude, I really like Hunter because Hunter kind of gives you that seal twist kind of
feeling.
They have a tactility.
Did we finish everything? Ready for two minutes? Oh no, I need three more Enraged Apparition.
Oh, crap.
Dude, we're not gonna make it, man.
We're not gonna make it.
Okay, you guys can start killing them.
I
Oh
Frick I shouldn't use an axe this axe doesn't do anything for me because it's I'm a human
That's so annoying I rolled need on this axe, but I don't need it because I'm a human
Now I'm set we can okay. Let's leave
It's such a problem. It's so like I hate weapon skills
Well, nobody else really needs it either in my group because look, we have another human
and another dwarf.
Like just feels bad.
Dang, love it, teen!
Forty-five seconds.
She's telling me now, she's telling me now.
Frickin' on time!
You have to log out beforehand.
I'll be right back.
band
it's gotta go band
So, I thought I said it's going to be a little damp, then.
I
Really bad I was joking. She's not moving. Yeah, I think it's gonna be a minute
What does level 15 to level 30 change mean?
They increase level cap?
Two weeks, level 20, two weeks, level 20, two weeks, level 30.
Okay, so whether it was in classic mode or modern mode,
classic mode is like classic models,
classic UI, not exactly, but as much as possible.
Modern mode is like the retail UI and retail stuff.
So just if you're a retail player and you
like retail, you go modern.
If you're a classic player and you like classic, you go classic.
I forgot to do that.
First time warrior in WoW.
Pick Nytel for the first time also X underscore X.
Should I rush to if slash SW for weapon training or just stick with default
sex underscore X?
What? Oh, let me listen, the TTS did that weird.
For some reason, I'm wondering why I'll pick night off
for the first time.
Also, should I rush to I have Stormwind for open training
or just do it with defaults?
I mean, if you're trying to level as quickly as possible,
that's what you're trying to do.
That's probably not worth your time to do that,
more than likely.
If you are trying to,
because sometimes it's not about the actual
time spent leveling,
but it's like you wanna feel good while you're leveling,
you wanna have like,
I got a weapon upgrade and I can't use it. It feels bad and I was like fine. I'll go get it
So kind of depends on how like how you want to approach it, you know
You can downright construct go to filters and you can you can doubt you can down right your spouse
I'll put on background. Thank you, dude. It's one of my favorite things. Yeah, Frugal made it for me
Jackson, what are you, what are you, what are you doing?
No, he's counting down. That's what he's doing.
Hello, the portal. Thank you.
Let's see the portal. Well, nothing right now. It used to be Outland.
I've seen the Olympus Mute, yeah, I saw that.
Well I haven't gone out there.
I think this is gonna appreciate you. Yeah, of course, dude
I don't think they should use it as a new rain
Let's see where to put my talent point because like
It already is something you just you know, it doesn't need to be another rain, right?
I think Holy Power will find you.
Hmm.
Uh, Ruins of Lordaeron?
We could do Ruins of Lordaeron.
Can I get a sound back to Iron Forge to turn it over to the end?
Do you think the death penalty on SMU will be lifted someday?
Yeah, man.
maybe someday. Wait, was there a rollback? There's no rollback. Yeah, there's no rollback.
I just need a summon. Yeah, no, I think so too. I mean, I want to see them get like a
a proper. I want to see sod the
sod raids get proper support.
This looks so sick.
Yeah, I just need to I just need
to summon from Tootin Boot.
Whatever gets done.
The heck.
Will you review a picture of graphical updates that could be done for a while forever that is respectful to vanilla art style?
Um, potentially.
Okay.
There we go.
I keep forgetting you can suggest invite now that's so weird
Like that throws me off so much what do you guys think I should put my talent point which I can beat Jim's in 1% damage to the type I
Mean maybe Hawkeye for more range more range is kind of nice
Put your talent point up your ass. Okay. Thank you for
the nice comments
Man I feel like
It's kind of hard I feel like deadly aspects is great
And whoever said that that was a rude thing to say wait didn't you say that
Let me see, I'll tell you, I do, I do, I do, I'll tell you what's going on, thanks you.
Hair of the righteous, the little whore, the palins don't have hair of the righteous, yeah,
they don't.
They're just because something is in the game
Just because something is in the game files doesn't mean that it's gonna be playable, you know
Listen to play this on YouTube it is it's just a warcraft playlist
Sure, I mean that's kind of what I'm doing
South Shore flight path? I don't know. I don't have it.
Oh my gosh, I was trying to run the other way and I almost fell off.
I kinda wanna see how many people fell down here.
I
Get the media
See you soon
Uh, you can play whatever you want, Purvesmo.
Why are dumb people allergic to grouping the world to make quests go faster?
I have no idea.
I don't normally have a problem with it, but that's crazy.
We're thinking about watching an event play while it's in time.
Dude, my YouTube TV is broken and it just gets stuck looping.
being again so two points in deadly aspects yes think you made our 44
anniversary special you are playing the best class ever made now make sure
Hunter has a long list like Pali next beta update
Cool things getting here in the 44 months, Sambo juju thing of the prime
Hell yeah, brother, there's a new former sheriff in town
There's a new former sheriff in town
come is a rating
when a fairy went and a baby up a9, a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9 a9
what's your back
Dude, is it crazy that we just did that dungeon in like 15 minutes and I just got two levels
out of it?
Is that as weird as I thought?
Oh my gosh, that sucks.
Do you mind dealing with ammo in weird range?
Yeah, it doesn't really bother me.
Uh, no, you can play launch, Tasbro.
wait low 36 that I am an auction house bill
Oh, there's a big time hunter quest and lock me down.
For a 10 slot pouch?
Ooh.
Is this forever?
Are you going to play?
Are you not going to play Paladin anymore?
Yeah man, I'm playing in different classes sometimes so I'm going to quit Paladin forever.
It's one of the elf launch.
Okay.
I want to level as many classes as I can on the beta because I'm trying to learn everything
I
Real thing rich mobile in
One one person keeps asking and I and I said no and then they kept asking and then I said yes
And then everybody else is saying that I rake propel
Because it's like why like I like what why
Are you joining us that's all my bad my bad my bad my bad my bad
No, they got an early game buff, but like late game they have a 17% damage nerf
Right or I would
That was so do that I was so mad
I have to get out of here.
You're going to laugh at me right now.
Are you serious?
So where are the quests for Ruins of Lordaeron?
Oh, they're all inside.
I'm helping test it for them Josh, I'm helping test it for them
I think it'd be a big blizzard to put board into forever sure man yeah I'm down
Thank you, of course.
I don't think they're going to do new classes anytime soon.
Wait. So you're quitting Paladin? You're quitting Rust? You're quitting NoPixel?
Wow, WTF. Why are you laughing at my submission in Pekachekka Channel? That's it, I'm out.
What other add-ons are in?
I don't know what to do with it.
Oh
Oh
You stole my super chat the card and then you left me on read I see how it is
Wait, did I not respond, Mr. Phoenix?
What'd you ask?
Oh, I didn't see where you sent the message, Mr. Phoenix.
Thank you again for the $5.
Thank you, man.
Can you post it again?
I just didn't see it.
I think that was whenever we were trying to rush through the dungeon.
Dark Moon.
the
and
dark more dark darker
More darker.
More darker.
Black.
Class color.
Mm, custom, okay.
color color color color color the frick I don't care enough about this anymore
Okay, we need to add another, we need a fifth for Ruins of Lordaeron.
I'm not sure if you can see it.
This is cool.
Like this dark mode is like,
you can actually just set your back.
I mean, it's cool, but I like how it looks.
Is there a hunter trainer in Stormwind chat?
Need help?
Uh, class trainer.
Oh yeah, yeah, I know where he is.
He's right here.
He's in the house.
Oh, the barber works.
Standing there all.
What can I do for you?
They've traveled.
Wait, where is it, I thought it was in that house, is it in this house?
Oh no, no, it's here, it's here, it's here, that's right.
Hello!
Hello!
in relation trap
mongoose bite, raptor strike
am I going to be a dirty dirty melee weaving rat?
thank you
thank you Richard Turtle
I got pet sharing
How do I do pet training?
by the door
I don't think this is the right person.
Greater stamina, armor, stamina armor.
Crock-a-dove in Wailing Town is a mortal strike, that's insane.
Thanks, Intensia. I appreciate it, man.
Okay, 10 bonus damage on the Raptor Shrike. I got the Mongoose.
I
Guess through the bear, I don't know. I
Was even I wasn't even trying to go for the pet
So I was like zoned out trying to like balance beam on the on the on the on the stairs
You're still single, Tony?
I am.
It's raining in the barrens, wait it's raining in the barrens?
I feel like the barrens is not gonna have a rain.
I never saw your message in chat where you said you were posting the stuff.
So Riz and Phoenix can, like, I responded to both of your donations.
And then I asked you to post it in chat and then you never, you never posted it.
i need you to i need you to post like an image or link or something
and i don't know and i don't know what they are also yet
and and jay logs and other
try to try posting it into a chat if it doesn't if it isn't post here but you
me to say, let me go to the bathroom, I'll be right back. How come you can't just hack
his PC and get the link? Oh my bad. Good point, good point, good point. We're going to go
We'll go run Runes of Lorda on in a little bit of chat.
Thank you very much, Jack.
I'm sorry, Chad, I fell in.
Did he take a shit or did the shit take him?
What did I tell you?
It was a little bit of both.
Did you wash your hands?
not a clean ass
now he's back those of the song but that
I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I'm not sure what you're talking about.
the Wild Forever Podcast?
No, I might do that tonight.
Tsk, tsk, tsk.
Hey, look at this.
We are reducing the rewards from quests and dungeons to green, except for the final capstone
quest for the dungeon.
Also deoptimizing some gear here and there and doing a second flavor pass.
We did it, boys.
We did it.
Look at that.
We did it boys
Wow is back baby
It's okay
Wow is all the way over here.
I was like dying jokingly thinking that there'd be a graveyard close by.
Frick, I asked myself.
I blame you, I say your shoes, I want blues.
What, dude, you guys, stop ruining your own game.
You don't know, eat the broccoli, it's good for you.
I think quality and rarity is what we do.
Yeah, but that's that,
you're conceptually changing the entire game
if you think quality and rarity is human stats.
You know?
I mean, if you guys don't know,
Don't mind getting on this, this is pretty neat.
Look at the raindrops hitting the water.
Ah, Emmeru!
Look at the water with the raindrops.
That is incredible and they added the fix the water sound dude we did it boys we did
it how a retail player is going to accept taking 30 seconds to kill a mob now dude the
The range-offs are crazy!
Hey, is there- is water- is collision a thing too?
Like, collision? Water collision.
Wait, what the heck?
There, there it is!
Damn.
Actual cinema
Dude
When the classic crowd as well their mother well, you know sometimes we say who asked for this right and a lot of times the answer
Is nobody this is one of those times when nobody asked for it and everybody accepts it because they did such a damn good job
You know
Okay, back to the other tweet.
So we've talked about this a lot over the course of the last few days, but we talked
about it specifically on the podcast today, ironically enough. And you know what this
gets? You see this? One more time. We are reducing the rewards from quests in dungeon
from quests in dungeons to green, except for the final capstone quest for the dungeon.
We are also de-optimizing some gear here and there and doing a second flavor pass.
You know what this gets, chat?
Let's get the big old one of these guys.
Peace.
That's my lane on Viola as there's W. So, there's a problem right now.
That's my lane on Viola as there's W.
So there's a problem right now with the gear just being outright too good at lower levels.
So it's making the world feel like it's basically just too easy.
Everything is just too easy.
No!
The carnage!
I mean there's a lot of different parts to this.
One is that.
Two, it's like.
They want to reduce it down a little bit because look you're gonna get all blues in a few levels anyway
But you're taking away an experience from the player of like getting that upgrade of like oh, dude
I'm finally all blues, right? So you're basically skipping an entire tier of quality altogether whenever
There's no greens
Guys, it's fine. Hello gentlemen. Hello. Hello. Hello gentlemen. Nice to see you guys
Hello gentlemen
Is there a faffing?
But we did pretty good there oh my gosh oh my gosh bro I'm so used to paladin or
a horde not having paladins that I saw a blessing of freedom and I thought it was
a fat that's so funny I was like how's he fapping
That's so funny.
A fap is a free action potion.
I'm wondering if I can't.
It doesn't work.
My YouTube TV is broken.
I don't know what.
Maybe you're on the track in Cognito.
This is supposed to be football Thursday
and I'm not even watching the damn game.
Nate Dogg and Warren G, you gotta regulate.
I believe except for the balls.
Here's my thing.
There's a hundred reasons not to do it.
Why do people defend leaving it?
It's like a hundred reasons not to do that.
Obviously they even they agree because they're gonna go back and they're doing it
forever games you're an idiot you okay here's the problem with some of you
people and this is why like you guys were like really aggressively like like
when you go at me or oh but this doesn't affect you so yeah no shit it doesn't
affect me that's exactly why I'm talking about it because it doesn't affect me
I it's just it's insane to me that there's there's people out there who can't
understand that when they they like when you talk about something you should be
looking at something from like a bird's-eye view and not just looking
straight up at not just looking straight up at how it affects you and what's in
your own personal best interest because it's not about you. Yeah, you're gonna have empathy.
It's crazy.
Yeah, forever games, I bet you're terrible at the game, by the way.
And I bet you put a ton of your own personal life investment, but I can tell by the way
that you're reacting to things that you're not even good at it.
And you've invested a ton of your life into the game.
Stop being weird.
Okay, understand that other people play this game other than you other people play this game other than me
Okay, so if I'm talking about something of course, I'll talk about things that don't affect me
Right. I want to talk about things that are going to be in the best interest of the game. I care about the game being good
Of course, I'm not gonna be at level 13 for very long
Toxic compassion
Ha! It's a new phrase, talk to compassion instead of talk to positivity.
Do you play Hunter? Right now I am.
I need to learn how to do the melee weave.
I'm older than 50. Well, you should start acting like you're older than 50 instead of acting like you're 15.
Because you're acting like a child.
What?
Oh, I'm the hunter.
Oh, god.
I did hunter things.
I did pull another group for no reason.
Targeting people and just servicing if that's stupid idea
I'm doing no I feel like I'm popping off, but I'm doing it literally nothing
And I'm so useless and I'm like yeah, I do shoot run and shoot run in and just nothing is happening
Seeing as how you a we blew not
Yeah, sure you guys are level 20 to be fair
I'm sorry, my pal wasn't all the time, I can't believe it.
Fucking idiot
I need another scope
He's doing no damage, but his blues are so powerful look
You realize I'm level 16 like this one saying like the people who like are the loudest about this kind of stuff
There's are often the people that don't know what the hell they're talking about
Inspect
Level 20 fully decked out level 20 fully like literally everybody it's level 20 fully decked out except for me and the healer
Of course, I'm gonna do no damage. I'm also I also have no idea what the home doing. It's my first time ever playing a hundred
It's like it's my whole point is like you're you're literally everything you say just proves my point
Our hunt alright, thanks
For some how do you look like a natural is it cuz I'm I'm keep pulling mobs and
Like tab target and you just serpent sting nothing
Nice run in and parry hits the bomb do my best
Oh, there you go.
Hearthstone chef for me, parry ace in the mob.
I should have gotten water.
Shotgun.
Oh, thank you.
Oh, thank you.
Oh, thank you.
Oh, thank you.
Chosmetality you have no Chosmetality you have mm-hmm
I need this morning you I think
No aspect oh Frank do no one of my friggin aspects wasn't aspecting
You sit in your corner and dictate to the rest of the megaserver and then talk to the
Wait, what are you talking about?
Well, I'm not using mark because I didn't want to be too assertive.
of
all of the world
I
Got as always the devil speak return action this year wait, what do you mean? What is the devil speak?
I don't know what you're I don't even know what you're talking about
blue items blue elves blue hair what is happening blue logo blizzard I know what they're doing
I know what's happening
I literally watch this man because it was balanced eggs
The viewers have the craziest blank. I don't go to the craziest assumptions about me. I don't know why
No, I's been you've ruined my life
I know, yeah, it's super dark.
I don't know how four eight yards is man.
How slow of a weapon do you need?
to melee weave.
Wait, is the Mac version a lot better?
I have no mana? Dude, you just have to believe. You believe we're good.
Hey devs watching, why did your patch make it so IDC?
Also is fan what's your opinion on archetype talent tree paths, with armor sets, and quest
lines.
Like Crusader, Death Knight, Demon Hunter, etc.
The original hero class idea, but GW2 stolen.
I think I think the reason why they didn't go through that is because it doesn't really work and
It makes it really hard to balance like it's a it's a conceptually cool thing. Yes, but it's it's not something that really works
It's kind of like a it's like a wish list. It's like a pipe dream, right?
Check right in the train.
Why don't I use guns?
Shall I only do it whenever I can, whenever I can wrap your Shrike?
That's point two questions. One, do you have any gray hairs that you dye? Two, when are you moving to Frisco? TX!
Frisco, Texas. Not anytime soon, but Frisco is great. Frisco is awesome.
Nice, great new month.
And no, I don't, I don't dye my hair, yeah, I, I don't.
I'm a Shelton, and Tanya wanna ride this trim.
Oh
Yeah, keep forgetting a hundred mark
I was in the emulation trap more I got on
See I feel like
That's only 15 mana.
Whoa, this guy's eyes are green.
I wonder what's going on here.
Boy, that guy's eyes red, I wonder what's going on.
Well, I did good damage there.
Severely abandoned.
Is that hunter item?
Spellpower maids, is that hunter item?
What is the point of swing time, etc.?
It's to know whenever your swing is actually going to swing out, so you can do other things
in the meantime it's basically like your buffer time.
I think if you play melee it's basically like a necessity to have a swing timer.
If you want to play at like the highest level for classic.
I think it doesn't matter as much in detail.
Oh, yeah, let's try to travel this thing.
Yeah, it matters a lot in PvP.
I don't know what that means, but true.
Oh!
all I know is train chat we only know one thing and that's the train
Why the Guild Wars 2 was able to make it happen?
Why not wow forever?
Crusader archetype won't be stronger than Core Paladin, just a different rotation-placed tile like TBC Seal Twisting.
And I was set to tell the difference. And new path to next level.
I mean the problem is you're now like redesigning a completely different game, like, all together.
You know what I mean?
Dude, there is so much male gear.
Everything is male.
Man, man, man.
Everything is male.
Like, I feel like everything is...
Like, at a certain point, you're designing an entire during game entirely, you know?
Oh wait, Immolation Trap only affects one enemy now.
Oh, I thought it was AoE.
Oh, Explosive Trap. You're right, you're right.
You're right, my bad, my bad.
did you try and get into the new rp and hot coral sets yet might just be a bit
but i wonder if our p is pvp or pve rp is pve and they're not actually active
It's just a UI, it's just a UI thing.
Even in death, I will persist.
Old Spire staff. It's pretty nice.
Congrats, congrats.
How do you like this alarm?
Oh, Hunter's pretty good, man.
Turn the crest of Lordaeron.
I have four quests to turn in.
Do we kill everything?
They're like the Red Changers today.
This club is better than the one I have.
Man, so we just went from Hall of Thames to Ruins of Lordaeron.
And how many quests do we have on Wailing Caverns, the Eagle Wailing Caverns?
Do we have any quest in RFC as Alliance?
There's two women caverns and two RFC.
No, RFC, okay.
No, unfortunately not. I think a lot of people...
I think a lot of people feel like burned by it.
So far, it's really fun. I love having the two separate swing timers
Because it's like a whole like me game to manage it. It's pretty cool
Yeah, no, thanks for taking Numa.
Dude, I haven't worked out in fricking a week.
No, I haven't worked out in like almost a, dude, I haven't worked out since Gamescom.
Either by ammo or I was like, don't taste, yes.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Hmm.
Right, but this is a new game we are designing.
If you go archetypes,
you can keep expanding it horizontally with archetypes.
Areas slash quests slash armor.
Every way else is just vertical progression,
what's after Naxe.
Another dungeon with better gear than Naxe.
Well, no, it's-
It actually is raining in the barrens.
They weren't kidding.
Sick.
My thing is, it's like those kinds of discussions, that's like a discussion for like three years
ago.
You know.
32 years ago.
We could hear us.
I mean, why we're we're here.
Oh, we know we're not here.
We're there.
Should we go just do whaling caverns?
You're into learning that so good.
Uh, no, I don't want to autocast growl in a dungeon.
I think 18 ice grats.
I kind of want to try and solo this.
Hunter is crazy, dude.
He's hunting on crazy!
Dude, Hunter is overpowered, man.
I'm just ribbing level 16 elites
Yeah, dude, I'm just ripping some of the leads.
I guess hunters are always strong.
I wonder how this happened.
How could this have happened?
Are they all the blues? No, no, it couldn't be.
Akama, Akama, Akama, Akama, Akama, Akama, Chameleon.
a comma a comma your duplicity I want to see I'm gonna leave the dungeon real quick I'm
to leave and um, re-invite me whenever we're ready to re-invite.
Which you place on YouTube as well, yeah.
How good is Palli always right out of the bat, it's just, it's the exact same basically.
It's like ever so slightly more damage.
Well, you have two less seconds of, uh, well, it's the same, but it's not.
Let's back a little bit differently now.
How much XP do you get for solo killing mobs in dungeons?
Hacama. You're too pretty to be.
of
the
I could have killed one but two is too much
The eyes carbon babe really I
Forgot to I've got the auto I realized at the end of I thought I I thought after I did the first taunt I
Thought after I did the first taunt. I said auto taunt. I realized I didn't do that. I thought I did left click right click
Then I was away
Oh
Dude my pets on passive I'm an idiot. I thought it was a wait hold on. I totally had that in the bag
Let's show us again
I can cause a shot proc.
Serpent Sting I think is not enough damage to warrant.
I'm not sure what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to try to get out of here.
Six seconds.
Huge, huge, huge, huge, huge, huge, huge.
easy, easy.
So how many 6p was that?
Zero?
I was like grabbed and bandaged in the middle of it.
Yeah, dude, I realized I didn't have an aspect on.
I had no man on it.
I was like, oh, let's see how it goes.
Dude, that was actually sick.
Wait, what happened to my water?
Wait, did I throw my water on the ground on accident?
well I was like just like panic throwing punch
I
Don't you bloom now I can't skin them
Okay, I'm going to try this again, all my pets said.
Thank you.
They're all too good, they're all too good, all the signs are too good.
Okay, so like new tech new tech distracting shot pets almost dead
I got rid of that I got rid of the taunt distracting shot
When clip
Like I have a chute chute chute, okay.
Spotify show kind of blows, it kind of does actually.
I swear it plays the same songs as in every song in the playlist.
Yeah, the problem is whenever you get clips, if you clip my stream, there's no music playing
in the background.
You know what I should do, by the way, guys, before we go?
There's your Ling Yats. S-Fan's big playlist.
Good stream.
Zippy, thank you, dude. Okay, I need to go turn in those quests.
Before the- Before the summit, actually.
I feel like this is not a prox.
It's after the hunter, due to a lot of people have been complaining about Warrior, which
I think I was going to do Shaman or Skyborne, but now I think I'm going to do Warrior.
But I don't know if that's going to be able to find me.
Well, they don't care about the live, they care about the bot, so like I have multiple
audio tracks running.
But you know on my VOD track, there's no audio, there's no music.
So this does two things.
This makes it better for the editor, it makes it better for the editor to download.
I don't know, is this interesting?
Is this boring talk?
Do you guys want to hear about this?
This might be boring.
Like, how I did this.
I feel like maybe it's like, yeah, talk nerd.
Okay, well let me, okay, I'll show you guys.
I think maybe it's like, yeah, talk nerd.
Okay, well, let me, let me, okay, I'll show you guys.
So, here, I'll talk about this.
Mothins, thank you for upgrading to continue your sub.
Greetings.
Duty bound leg games.
Oh, level 70.
That's a juicer.
What?
nine thousand xp
So here's how I do things.
How am I going to do this?
Well, I got to do this while I'm trying to talk to it.
I'm trying to maneuver while I'm doing this.
All right.
So this is like the tech stack or like the encoding stack, I
should say, for my stream setup.
At least this is what I can't.
I don't know if this is the best.
This is just what I came up with.
And this is what works for me.
So you have...
I'm thinking about even how to explain this.
Another level 18!
In one minute and 16 seconds, deliver the bloodstain letter to whatever in Duskwood.
For a blue necklace
Guys, I don't know man, maybe it's I don't think it's too easy guys
I
Watch S-Fan on YouTube occasionally, and I just randomly got invited to this group
What the f do you mean occasionally?
How do you expect to get paid?
Because you mean occasionally you should watch all the time
Jordan loved their pig to end the game. Oh boy. So wait, what is the score Falcons? Falcons
one was the score. Okay.
A crest of Loderon.
Dude, you know what's crazy?
I feel like anytime there's like a wow thing and like people, people are like, wait, who's
S-Fan?
I'm so just like, I'm always like really like a sarcastic and stupid.
And if you don't know my personality, it just goes over people's heads.
Is it a key?
What the heck?
Maybe I should tone it down a hair.
Which raises better for a hunter.
Human elf, Skyborne, or- oh, human elf or Skyborne.
Probably elf.
night elf from those who's that saying how it sounds like something I would say
raise three fingers to your face
yeah dude the game looks so much more than I thought the memory leak I couldn't
Keep your feet on the ground!
Wash your back.
I like how watch your back turn into wash your back over the years
Dude, this guy that we randomly invited to the group played on private servers.
Do you know I'm already almost level 19?
Do the B-jump.
Dude, it's kind of insane, like,
I feel like this is the speed-leveling meta.
If you need more, they give it to the 300 bits man.
This is probably going to be a speed-level meta.
Yeah, that's it.
Jordan Love.
You may know me as the quarterback for the Green Bay Packers, but here soon, you will
know me from my true passion.
Loves Toyota wants to put you in your pick of any premium, certified used Toyota with
low interest rates on Sundays.
I was damn catching the tier one
People not getting the southmore revenue name breaks my heart. No, I do people not get it. I think people
Does anybody not get the stands dad reverence
Oh hell yeah, I just got multi shot. I'm gonna pulse. Oh my gosh. I'm gonna wipe so many groups of this thing. Oh
Hell yeah, I can't wait. Oh, we're gonna wipe so hard because my multi shot. We sick
I'm gonna pull so many mobs I shouldn't hey where's the bartender isn't there supposed
There's your bartender in here!
I just joined a big party of night elves and we're going to explore the Tower of Azora together.
Oh look, I can wave at this guy.
Wait a second, this is my first time in Booty Bay.
Oh my gosh, dude.
This looks insane.
Yeah, this is my first time in Booty Bay since, uh, since Classic Plus.
Wow.
Wow!
Dude, this is amazing!
That looks so good.
Wow.
What is your current default?
Dude, look at the sky!
Right at sunset?
Uh, what the heck?
Wait, it's not moving!
Hold on, my controls got messed up when I started using the controller.
Wait, it's not moving!
Oh my gosh, the controls...wait, it bugged!
Oh no, I think there's a bug now, since the patch.
Right click isn't moving my guy.
Escape isn't...oh my...no, it was so good before.
Now I'm stuck in controller mode
Tab out that fix it oh
Okay, I fixed it. Thank you
Dude a bunch of these songs are wifey any songs. Okay, let me fit. Okay. I didn't get to explain the text
Check how streamer keeps saying the game's name.
We get it, the game is called WoW.
Yeah, actually that's what this meme actually, this was like a bad meme actually.
It was making fun of stuff.
back.
Our giant's over here.
Dude, I should try and level it. One of my characters hardcore to 20
Yeah, true the white even do memes I
I feel like YTMND was one of like the original like one of the original birthplaces of internet
memes.
We used to call them fads, we didn't even call them memes, we called them fads.
Which is funny because like memes are the official like proper.
Dude we kinda had, we had bangers all night.
I challenge you to do it on a warrior.
I'll level a Warrior Hardcore 20, I can do it.
Easy.
My next character, Warrior Hardcore 20, easy.
Easy.
I
Have any wheeling cabins quest here time is money friend. Hey, how you doing have a good one
Easy I right-click somebody to fly bad thing it murked my garden
Yeah, I have 600 ammo Dude, I think if they do hardcore four months
after launch, it's actually a big L. They need to give it more time.
I think it should be at least six months, like closer a year.
No, cause like, dude, it's hardcore is, is better whenever there's a few
ray tears and there's like some excitement.
Cause if they put it out like three or four months after launch,
and it's like right with a patch, it's like, it's not going to hit.
It needs more time.
I think, I think minimum, bare bare minimum.
Yeah, work out bugs, everything.
It should come out after they release all the current playing raids and all the King's
are worked out.
Yeah.
I mean, I'll be honest with you, I don't think Hardcore is like the most popular gameplay
thing before because you couldn't transfer, like they made it to where you could transfer
finally to a PvE server, so like you didn't completely lose your character forever. It was
just like, okay, well now you go to PvE server. But there's a lot of people who like don't want to
play on PvE servers at all. They have no interest. So now that you can transfer to a PvP server,
I think people are, like I know for me, like why would I not level a character on Hardcore?
I think people will level a character on Hardcore to prevent getting ganked, and then once they die
one time, then they'll go to a PvP server. I think it'll be really interesting.
Yeah, I think that's going to be like what, like people who don't want to get ganked or
World PvP while they're leveling. I actually think that's what's going to happen. So I think
there's going to be a lot of people that end up... Oh, which I think you might...
You're gonna hardcore to PV now. I think hardcore is gonna be way more popular than it was because of that
Yeah, that's smart dude. You're welcome dude the first the first tip is free
Yeah, it's weird you can't both pets now
Wait, how come my pet ass can't benefits and I don't
schedule. I actually got to update the schedule on. What does the schedule say right now?
schedule set right here that you're playing rebirth all day tomorrow awesome
finally
Okay, so how many I'm not playing we were yet, but I will
I have three we have three quests again, we're good
That's fancy number one rep powder. Yeah, that is true
I wonder when that dual turn is happening, please.
More info coming soon, the rule set, everything.
Six years as Fondelle.
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This guy's retailing.
He's retailing.
This guy's got a bubble.
Dude, we're kind of owning.
We're popping off, dude.
I got a line, I got a line.
Nice.
another line
nice oh I'm lying to you I'm lying to you
Nice dude, dude Hunter is crazy. I just dude. I just popped off dude. That was sick
Dude great healing we only lost one dude. We just dude. We just owned
That was insane we only lost one here get a resident quick before they come back get a resident quick before they come back
Dude, that was insane!
I don't have water, I don't have water.
I'm just gonna eat.
Hell.
He's right here, he's right here, he's right here, he's right here, he's right here.
You can click him in the rest.
Oh, he's back, he's back.
We're gonna move, we're gonna move, because the other guys are coming, the other guys
are coming, because they're gonna be just as close, if not closer.
And we're we're do I got my man back already actually
Off brick oh
Dude, look at this a rat dude. I waved at him. I'll let him survive and now he came back
Okay, it's okay, it's okay.
Frick!
See, that's why I wanted to run quickly.
Frick!
Because I thought there was no way that we should have won the first time.
Yeah.
Don't mess with the voodoo.
I
Okay
Um...
Taking notes now, tapping away to the people.
X-Fond VI-Bibes.
Yeah, I only play pv server.
Dog sport thing of the two months
How do I- I gotta go around.
Chat, do the conga please?
Band!
I
What
Dude my hardcore character
that's true. Oh, big text.
Think of it the 72 months.
What's up, dude? Sorry. I didn't, I didn't, uh, I didn't hear that. It was good senior
BlizzCon man.
Now corn, what is this shaman?
You're not hungry today.
Let's go fix the server, give me one second.
What?
bro stop you're such a cringe is the same guy
leave him under level I'm no gear
here. All right. All right.
All right, I'm gonna whoop his bitch ass with my main and get my main.
I forgot what his name was already. I got it with my combat log.
Bro, he logged on a different character.
He literally was just camping me and just switched characters.
Hey, get on your shaman
I have a shaman yes you do
Your shaman your shaman she come to my house today and she kicked my dog
You know.
It's crazy how, like, when you play for a long time, it's like, you know, it's like,
It's crazy how like when you play for long enough you can kind of tell when somebody's
shooting sniping, but it's like it's like not a percent, but it's like okay you're in a
completely different part of the map and they just show up right as soon as you spawn again,
it's like okay buddy.
It's just like I don't I am a major disadvantage. It's insane
Cuz it ends I'll lose lose
Oh hundreds are always crazy as level
Yeah I mean to be fair he's only two levels higher but like he's like farmed up and stuff
Wait, what the hell?
Wait, I got...
Wait, that's so funny. I didn't realize I got summoned inside of the instance. I ran outside.
I didn't realize, I can't.
I forgot that it does that now. You can summon inside instances.
Hmm.
yeah I don't know I don't know if that's a that's a good thing or not
I'm multi-shotting wait so how do you multi-shot wait is multi-shot an instant
I'm half a second cast
Must have ammo, what do you mean must have ammo?
For some reason didn't refill my ammo. Oh, it's that lower level ammo first, I think
It's a leg.
Do you want to shoot?
Do you want to try and time your multi-shot and then go off right whenever you shoot?
is it, is it?
What is- are these part of deviant scales or something?
While I was confusing, a dude just called me a slur and then gave me gold.
Huh.
Oh dude, I never freaking got a chance to explain the whole tech stack of my stream.
I got friggin stuck.
I'll explain it a little bit.
Dude, he called you slurring and then called you poor. That's crazy.
I should call her.
Wait, what?
As Fander's a jackass he gets called slurs by people giving him money all the time.
True
I'm not even sure what I'm doing.
I'm just going to go back to the game.
I'm just going to go back to the game.
I'm just going to go back to the game.
What? Oh, I'm capped on skinning, I didn't even know.
Wait, EvilCotRack, are you leveling your skinning? You should take everything.
Guys, you guys are killing things before I can even loot.
Wait, we each see a separate?
Okay, I'm gonna get...
I was trying to be my stupid chat.
Whoa, whoa!
That's cool.
I mean, that's basically a hunter item.
No, I'm joking, um, isn't that, that, that's a stick paladin item.
You're a paladin, you're a paladin, she-rack
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a hunter item man
Damn, look at that shield, two made up of five.
Okay, I'm going to do it.
Well, I can just not loot anything if I want to.
It's all going to come...
Has this shit been accepted by the vanilla community?
It looks fun.
Yeah, it's pretty fun.
It's like the tone of voice that you read a message.
Change the gun
Wait, do I need to time my multi-shot at all? I don't think I need to time my multi-shot at all
I love this man. I'm angry. Oh frick
You do it right after the auto does it reset your auto because I don't think I reset my auto there
So, so why would I do it after my auto?
get nerfed uh no i think they just changed they got a little bit stronger early game and a little
bit later a little bit weaker late game i actually i actually don't think it changed very much i also
misread something someone else said that like vengeance got nerfed real hard and then i just
kind of ran with it and i looked at it more closely and i was like wait that's not right
I'm actually really launched. I'll be, I'll be Alliance. I normally play Alliance, but
uh, this last Burning Crusade I ended up going Horde because of, uh, Blood Elf Racial for
P.P.
That's like I'm mostly doing arenas and stuff, but if I'm not doing arenas, I'm role playing.
So I'll go lines again.
A succulent shark meat meal.
Drew.
Negative five dollars, Tony.
We didn't start this website.
So, if you're casting at the end of your auto-shot, your auto-shot gets clipped.
Is that what it is?
But that means if I do it mid-shot, then it's okay, just don't do it at the end.
By the way, we're posting classic ads on the classic ads YouTube channel.
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Gleaming claymore of healing, two-handed healing weapon.
I'm out of mana.
I- I- I was asking for the hot proct at all.
Rogue with a moxin, strength spirit, and here's the heal- what the hell?
Dude, monk robes.
Dude, I only have four deviant heights.
Wait, my pet just dropped down with me.
That's cool.
You're going to worry about this?
I mean so many people have asked me. I think I'm at a level one
If this is a swap doing command, I'm right ready for a crusader. Yeah, basically I
Don't know I still want to push them to give us burning crusade seal twisting and give us a different 31 point
I think I'm missing a bit.
I
Don't know all this seals most haters like what like what's the alternative like what do you guys mind?
Cuz
My idea was the same as the Holy Shock idea
And I think it's a great alternative for you to play a little whack-a-mole game. Okay
Wings and execute okay, you want divine storm you want you want wings you want to fly
You wanna have a rebuke, you wanna have interrupts, you wanna, you wanna, you wanna, like, what
do you mean?
I don't like the current talent either, I think it should just be built in, we should
get something else, but I don't think it should be, but I don't think it should be, uh, divine
storm.
I think you just can't give the class anything, it's just not, it's, it's not good, it's not
That's a Dara.
guy. Dude Hunter is broken but I like I feel they're broken and then I look at my damage
I'm doing way less but they were better gear to me so make sense. No they don't need
cleave guys you can't give air like that's not you guys are totally missing the point
about class design like these are probably the same people that are like like you guys
are probably the same people that are saying like, um, blessing of freedom
shouldn't remove the blessing.
It's like, come on, you guys are totally like, you just don't like classic
talent and like, don't ruin the game for the like, but stop trying to ruin the
game for the rest of us like this.
Like I'm like incredibly balanced about like okay like they need to add this to give this this option they need to give that for that option
You know
They didn't make it to where it's
Like proper design. It's not overpowered
Like I already think like vanilla powdons are so finicky that like they can easily snowball out of control
And most people just don't really know that
But then again if other classes are changing so much that it's like it's
kind of hard to it's hard to really know because other classes are changing so much too.
So what do I do single target arcane shot or multi shot?
He has that moosey everything good man
Dude moosey, I I saw one of your friends that uh at blizzcon
See the time I was sweet. Yeah, I did I did
I need this more than you, I think.
What the heck?
That's weird.
That's weird.
Man, my Mongoose bite hits super hard
and my Raptor Strike hits super hard.
Shameless dreamers yet
The thing is it's so hard because they're taking away like something you can do in vanilla
burning crusade everything so it's like you're you're not you're not making the
class something unlike anything that you've ever played
now it gets really good and burning crusade we're just taking it away
So like command and righteousness should have a two-way twist where it applies on the whites
and the commands and it should have the like it doesn't have to be the same but it has
to be like similar to... like if they made Riders work like... if they made um... if
they made Riders look similar to how it is in Burning Crusade, but it doesn't have to
Give me the exact same numbers, it just has to work the same.
That'd be good.
Oh, it's not really going to be Wrath very much, it's going to be mostly Burning Crusade and Vanilla.
Not entirely, but...
But yeah, I mean it's kind of what it is. It's not it's not really about
They banned me Esfan they took my beta everyone point and laugh like I think I think
That would happen, Fuji, they've been born in 9 months.
Is that possible to create a Horde BV character right now?
Well, all the rules aren't out yet, so I wouldn't sweat, I wouldn't stress it too much.
Yeah, that's just what we're just thinking about it doing at Horde BVB, but like, um,
that's just kind of where we're at right now.
But some things may change.
Armor of the Fang.
Oh man, hunter item, strength, stamina, spirit, that's a hunter item for sure.
I just always say everything is under armor.
That's not under armor.
The hunters use leather, but no, I was, guys, I was joking about that, being a hunter gear,
it's just a, it's a hunter joke.
They don't use, they don't use strength, so it's not, it's not a good piece for hunter.
five months as far on Pog.
Nice. Then you can't matter. Can't
man. Black man. He didn't.
Yeah, but you don't get, you don't get an attack power from Strength.
Am I wrong?
You don't get an attack power from Strength for honor.
At all.
It's just all agility.
Wait, do you get melee, do you get melee attack power from Strength?
Wait a second, I know rogues do, but I thought hunters don't, wait they do.
Hold on, gimme that chest piece.
Hey, gimme that chest piece I passed on.
If you're in Burning Grzeg,
I'm trying to distract him, I'm trying to distract him, try not to get me through.
the authentic vanilla experience pulling the whole dungeon at once shooting everybody
House on earth is really strong.
Wait, please get one attack bar from strength.
I just like never knew this.
Wait, wait, can somebody give me that up the fang chest then?
That really gets you fixed, yeah.
Holy wrath cloth
Three greens and one chest that's crazy
Yeah, wait.
So I lose 5 ranged attack power and I gain 1 melee.
Again 2 melee.
That's so worth.
Not. Not worth it.
Planning to make an M.M. Hunter no pet on launch, smiley face emoji, smiley face emoji.
Guys, thank you for the dude eyes.
Heavenly shadow economy.
That's what sort of healing.
Let's see.
Holy, 174 melee crit!
Scum's Bucket.
Ingris healing by 10 and damage by 3.
I'm sure it was 803 mana?
Can you use that in combat?
Swaggy, do you think you can use that in combat?
Oh, it's a drink.
Okay.
Yeah, that's normal.
10 minutes kind of a long cooldown for just a drink. I'm sure it's like five
good I will join said like hunter yeah it reminds me a lot of Paladin
Hmm.
I really want to learn how to melee weave.
So do you go straight into the melee weave?
You're being down here right now.
I'm trying to melee weave.
a million major out of sheer time right now they don't unless they swing I don't think
I
See look like my swing owners
Shabs are a lot of mana.
I almost forgot about that thing by the way.
that was kind of sick like it is kind of sick
Oh, no bullets!
I need more bullets!
Well, Leather is going to be so cheap.
cheap because you're gonna have groups of people just skinning everything
Yo, what's up Bible? I don't know probably probably cat-o
I am the serpent king.
Uh, Pat, Pat, Pat, Pat.
I'm just more committed because I don't have anything else.
Is Aspect of the Monkey, Aspect of the Beast?
They just never procs.
Wow, that was easier.
Whoa, that's a sick cloak
Yeah, I came in with 600 and I ran out actually was like 800
What do you mean I don't have two aspects
He still has his shield testing until you get a thousand.
Oh no, you don't even have shield testing.
That's my problem.
We don't have dual speck until level 40 I didn't I didn't get this quest
Is it a quest I don't remember there's a question on it's just this would go to some of the last boss Disney
the legend is back when is the next tailgate tour I don't know I was planning
on starting in October but now I'm like I don't know what's happening this year
My left hand is cold.
Is there one that disagrees with you and suddenly retails at you?
Uh, wait, what did that happen?
And also, it's like, it's about disagreeing in certain ways. You know what I mean?
I've been expected.
Oh, the right is meh though, oh, fuck.
I haven't seen the new survey in the launcher.
Dude, it's so annoying you're not as snappy as you used to be.
I think forever to turn like a fat slow E. Any kozers?
Eswan kozi.
Any kozers?
I
Raising her squandering the squandering the reels completely lost it wait, which one which one rapid strike
Which reel was it?
The reels have been really good. Yeah
what brings you here what brings you here I have business to attend do you
actually wailing cameras takes forever Brad White think of it the 40 minutes
40 minutes 40 months yo 40 minutes
Sub
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I really know yet
Are there any proc weapons, maybe searing blade?
Yeah, maybe, we gotta get me a searing blade.
whatever proc weapons are there at level 20 proc swords
where dropping runs lower on I don't think so yeah there's a yeah it's like
shadowfall or something I don't remember but yeah the shadow damage one
Maybe I should get a melee weapon?
I didn't map there.
Where's my damage?
like dude I think I do more damage melee
like I legit think I just do more damage melee
all right well the good if you're one
it's a problem as in wait oh and no I do have that this one's except for the
He, uh, abandoned.
Time for this one, right?
Strength, 24 spell power.
How am I getting parried?
Yeah, I just missed so much.
If it's not tracking, this is the worst damage meter ever.
trap in the water I would take those I'll take those shoulders if nobody wants
That's a hunter item, for sure.
Oh, yeah, I didn't see you guys roll though. I was I would just give it to you
But if I won
Alright
You don't want it. I mean, it's not super good
I mean, I'll take it if you guys don't want it
Uh, oh, you're the only one who rolled, right?
I don't know, Stan's also rolled.
Oh, yeah, I'm Stan's.
I was like, who the hell is Stan's?
I
Need two more deviant hide man
Hey, what about 99 year old port this hey wait
Okay
And those are the only three quests right three plus plus the one inside
And then you're slumming it with those shoes I am look at that
Place of fire. Thanks, dude. 300 display titles. Not yet
Is there titles I don't think there's titles
Can you do you get the hot can you get the hides from the I vaguely remember
Being able to get hides from the mobs outside, is that true?
Okay.
Oh, healing back, healing back.
Oh healing back healing back
Oh my gosh, really?
Oh it will come out easy.
Let's try and stick around here before it comes back.
Did everybody see?
Have they ziled those things? I don't think so. Oh yeah, the 20% mana. That might help.
Thanks for when.
Hunter, little dude, human hunter, little dude.
And this quest, the driver of this quest is always so low.
Can I turn back down?
Yeah, I mean that's a quest that if they want to have you only run a dungeon one time.
19
in. Dude, Manga's bite is nasty.
Oh, I got my hides swag you still need your hides.
Yeah.
That man gum mongoose
loose.
It's good. It's good.
The port guy.
I'm just gonna try bubble cancel.
Ok, where's the port guy?
I don't think it's enough same dimensional great take on recent podcast episode five up
thanks green appreciate it man yeah chat make sure go sub to the classic ass YouTube channel
and puts classic episode in my feed without being sucked all good no no you
gotta stop I need you to stop please it's curly thunder and elwin with no rain
that is sick
now I don't watch the blizzard podcast yet I might watch it tonight to end the
night
dude where is this bastard any gifters wide hard to any gifters wide hard to
what's his name sweat the hell swaggy boomer thank you for the five gift in
People are comparing the Packers the Cowboys any comments I'm so sorry Green Bay
Melee, Hunder, world bb.
I'm jousting, I'm jousting.
I think I was going to kick my ass all in live.
I'm gonna back off, I think I was gonna kick my ass.
We should have 200 pulse rushing, oh my gosh.
How do I find this port dude?
Crab or a bull doesn't imagine wants you to retrieve
the bottle of 9 linear port from Madagascar.
She was hiding in the way in Canada.
and
any stealths
the
Okay, eight on seven
Nice.
Okay, three, I got four plus four plus four plus four plus four plus four plus four plus
six is 14 plus seven.
21.
We're kind of like teasing it today, but it's coming we got we got some we got some work
to do and we're trying to still sort out the rules and stuff.
But yeah, it's going to come soon.
I'm learning to do. Oh yeah, remember this, Colin.
I
the
the
party's at and then then then then then then
I shot them up.
What brings you here?
We'll be back.
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Goddess watch over you.
What brings you here?
What brings you here?
Rejames.
Be careful.
Maybe it turns.
With a swaggy gun, without the...
Swaggy still needs.
Fubly dog, cool.
It's okay. All right, let's make sure.
Okay, no worries. All right, level 19. I'm almost done with his 100 to 20.
I think, is this trinket bro, or is this talent broken?
Is this just an aviour kick, wait, lots of manis.
It
Aspect of the beasts monkey or is there just is there another aspect called beast?
Oh, it's its own thing, okay
I
Know that was a mage
Oh, no shot, bro
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I should have gotten the Wailing Caverns dog, right?
The Crocodile.
The Crocodile.
Crocodile.
Crocodile is good.
So that's a Bionlaw forever.
They basically rebuilt the game.
I think they rebuilt the classic version of the game, basically, if you don't understand
the difference, the short answer is they took the classic version of the game and rebuilt
it as a continuation of the game and using the same sort of game design principles that
they always had to basically create a new MMO that's like, hey, what if this was made
in 2026 and like it continued to be like going.
It's like Classic Plus, yeah, literally.
It seems to me forever and been all there's a lot of differences.
I don't have a recruiter friend, but I don't know what it is, I don't know the details.
I'm thinking warrior. I was thinking shaman. I was trying to decide
One.
Mamma, mamma, mamma, mamma, mamma.
Hmm, interesting.
Almost level 20 on the hunter.
Oh, and the boat gets here just in time.
Let's see if two can get in.
Oh, speak with someone in Ratchett, hold on.
It's the guy in the boat in the net hot right there, right?
Hey there, just passing through.
I
Sure could use your help kid
I've never heard that voice line
Trilogy you have to wait a few minutes and log in again. It's cuz you're logging in. How many you guys are new to wow
Which guy where am I supposed to go?
I think it's crazy. I'm a new people are playing so that bug is like one of the it's like an
OG bug from years and years and years ago
Keep it real. Oh my gosh, we have to go back
Like why is he blared whenever we're in the same group
That's a nice one any gifters wide hard to any gift rascals over the two gifted over doing good man
How much XP do I need I need 11k XP to graduate or dead look I
I know what I know 11 K eggs be the level
And 11 K credits here, I'm doing the bathroom quick to you. I'm gonna fall you for a second
We have keys tomorrow, maybe.
Oh
Freck
Yeah, okay, I had a poop
How's the classic ass it was good that's got some really good
It's really good my bad, dude
Oh, I do I don't
Now oh
Frick
I don't have any more hands.
Yeah, good idea, good idea.
Good idea.
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Yeah, I forgot actually, yeah, I remember this one is at the top of the mountain.
Yeah, it's it the character already exists just wait two minutes. It's basically waiting for your character to log off this over
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what brings you
Oh, no, it'll be during the beta, it'll be at the end of the beta probably.
The exact date and all the it was more of a teaser right it was more a teaser poly but it's uh, I
Figured it was appropriate. Just to just announce it because tips is organizing it and
We'll be we'll be hosting it together. So well tips won't be I'll be hosting it
The casting and hosting or whatever, but yeah
Yeah.
Has this been doing anything like games industry stuff?
Uh, I have, but what specifically like are you, are you talking about?
Yeah, I think, I think we're gonna do the, uh, me and Zoryu duo, like last time for
the mackerel.
Does it go ahead?
Yub's already doing the, it's like we did like play by playing color kind of, you know.
But there's a lot of work that TIPSON has to do to get things figured out, but yeah.
Then that will be viable and end game wow forever absolutely I think everything will be viable
But yeah, I mean again, there's stuff subject to change that's why we didn't want to go into announcing everything
We're still kind of finalizing the details
But yeah, there's there's still there's still like a lot of like specific details and stuff so I wouldn't
I wouldn't stress too much about it. Just know that it's coming
Very remember true true true like
All right, well, I guess it's time to leave isn't it dude, I'm so close to leveling
I mean, how am I gonna get to doing that? Oh, whoa, whoa, okay. Hold on easy. Just go Stormwind
Oh, do I have a deal for you?
Hurry back!
Yeah, there's a boat in Stormwind now, so it's pretty easy.
The man 2000 XP.
Stormwind already in the Manitoba, Manitoba, there we're going to watch that.
Yeah, true.
Yeah, there's the Stormwind Harbor now, look at.
Is that Mughal's suit?
I'm like a year into making a game I'm sure I'm gonna make any more decisions
So I'm just trying to absorb info on almost like the meta. Well, yeah, I mean this it like depends on what your your game is
Yeah
Like what like the genre of game what you're doing
But making games is hard really is
I'm
a real
Time is money
Yo
Be good
What's up
Have a good one
A giant shark has been circling the waters near the shipping dock, attacking sailors
from boats.
Is that new?
Wait, they're going to do this real quick, it's right here, just kill these two guys.
There he is.
dude what kind of shoes are these are the bottoms are open wait what emerge
groups yeah that's uh oh frick
They're horn I'm an idiot
I'm stopping it. Stopping it. Let it kill them. Let it kill them. Let it kill them. Let it kill them. Let it kill them
Let it kill
Wait, this is it has to be done wait stop pet stop stop
dude I just saw the elf and I couldn't tell what it was oh wait wait wait wait wait wait
am I actually win?
am I actually win?
am I actually win?
hold on
it's towards the troll might win
wait this is sick
damn that was sick
wait that was actually sick
Not bad.
Okay, I can't tag because I don't have bullets.
Oh, she manned.
Can I get a tie ready? I actually got the gold and I didn't do it yet. I need to make
it.
Uh, Frugo made it, Thunderberry. Isn't it sick? Yeah, look up the Dark Portal video.
They're cool, right?
No, dude, I've been seeing some of the names, like there's people that like did not have
bad names at all that got banned.
They got first I was like, yeah, these guys, but then I saw people that are like, dude.
Or like somebody was like, I made a bad name and then I deleted it.
I didn't even play it.
five days ago.
Oh my gosh, I'm so close to leveling.
I don't think I'm I don't think so let's see
Yeah, I saw a bunch that were not bad.
Keep it quick, kid. I ain't got all day
I am like 500 xp away 600
Yeah, but no there's some that were like not bad at all like
somebody was like their name was like devil toots a lot I saw on Twitter and
they got banned
I didn't get banned but I had to change my name tiny Johnson I do I think they
shouldn't even have that I think how many Johnson should not to change the name
that's funny
I
Coach I pop my neck when I do I push my jaw like you do and tilt my head left to right
How many times on average if you had to guess there's your neck pop mine just popped 20 times exactly after tilting left to right
Yeah, I'm a big neck cracker. I'm always cracking my neck and I'm always like my joints, my upper back, my hands.
to
like 98 mongus bite is nasty damage what the hell blizzard you mean to tell me I
can't name my character after my favorite Robin Hood character little
Johnson
the
pile of complicated parts.
Dude, there's so many of these quests now, man. These quests suck for me
The girls are kind of love it. No, dude, I think if your name's tiny Johnson, you should not be getting your name
Like tiny Johnson is funny
like
like Johnson is a real last name and tiny is a mean the nickname
I don't know what I'm saying.
I saw a bunch of them that are like, and I do think people lie a lot of times, but there's
some people that I'm like I I doubt like also it's not people getting banned it's
like oh tiny Johnson got a name change that's not like you know what I mean
that's not a lie it's not like oh I shouldn't have gotten banned in a bad name
yeah
Oh, see here?
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Alright, good work men.
Team effort.
Solid team effort there.
Let's go back to the mansion.
I
Yeah, kills pet call Peter kills pet call Peter
can you uh two ways to deal with this is not yeah you can two ways to best I just only
I think it's a good solution.
W. Bush. Hey, how you doing?
Keep it real.
Uh, I want you on stream, Mr. Names.
If they put in TPC twisting, the daggers will complain about its useless because they can't do any damage.
True.
Okay miss, thank you for the two months by the way.
Some sexy armor you got on.
Yeah, it kinda is.
Too much.
Welcome to Ratchet.
Hope you're looking for work.
Yay!
It's over!
Levels.
It's over level 20
There you go little 20 number two
Oh
Jack, thanks dude
Finally we did it
and now we play the game
I'm going to head back to stolen
I supply only the finest of your days.
See you around.
for something specific?
That's a good one.
Why am I hearing gunshots?
Stormwind City to f-
What the hell?
of
the
Um, let me at some point dagger down probably at the end of the beta.
Oh my gosh, the dead gum monsoon.
Dear, the rain is crazy.
Bro, what?
The new dude, they just added these today.
Look at this.
What?
Dude, this is amazing.
This is amazing.
This is amazing.
This is amazing.
Dude, this is amazing.
Is this overboard?
It's so good!
Is it making the bitrate go nuts?
Dude, that is so sick.
Well, it's not really the bit rate going down.
It's the bit rate is not enough to handle this many, this much movement on the screen.
It is amazing.
the
Dude, imagine a big world PvP battle in this rain.
And like, you can't even see your enemies in the distance.
Dude, that would be amazing!
Is it raining on the tree?
Yeah, I mean, it's...
Yeah, but...
It's a hole in my tent.
Dude, that is amazing.
and
Wait, is it going to be raining in Stormwind?
Wait, hold on.
We've got to go to Stormwind and see if it's going to be raining in Stormwind.
Dude, this is going to be sick, this is going to be sick, let's see.
Is it raining for everyone? Oh my gosh. Is it raining for everyone and no one for us?
You look the rain and yeah, do you look oh
Man, I do wish they had a rain in Stormland.
Imagine they could have like actual like weather like progressive weather across zones
like a like a cloud and it doesn't even rain in the whole zone that would be amazing if the holes
Everything didn't rain in the whole zone.
One time it was raining my front air and not my back air. That's crazy.
Stormy at night looks great though.
Would it be amazing? Dude, it would be amazing.
Let's call it a weapon, Jean.
Uncropping.
Thank you.
Whoa, look at this, look at this, look at this, global, global illumination quality.
Do you guys see this?
So it's in hey.
Dude, look at this.
I
All right, Z2
is this oh nice congrats that's sick
Quick.
You need something?
How are you?
Stockades, but I don't need stockades or anything console.
Camera keep character centered zero.
dude cinema
Woo, woo!
Dip your pugs.
This is sick!
This is cool for like if you want to film videos PVP and shup
dude, this is cool
That's kind of cool.
That was like the action cam wasn't in classic.
I was dangerous.
Okay, so we're a little 20, let's go get our talents.
which I skills
shaman next I was thinking shaman but I think I might do warrior instead
Yeah, I always play PvP.
Because each time she gives enough love to go straight to the next engine.
Uh, yeah, that was, that's actually a big point of emphasis that I brought up.
It's kind of uh, I think it's kind of bad. I mean, I literally, I literally just did
Hall of Thanes. I was level 14. I went from level 14 Hall of Thanes.
I went from Hall of Thanes to Ruins of Lordaeron to Whalen Caverns and I hit level 20.
Good morning, good morning.
Great to meet you safe travels aim shot
Our came shot
Freezing oh my gosh, Lola 20 is so big for hunter
How are you watch your back be good
Okay
Dude, I think the strat is literally get to level 14 get to level 14 and then you go Hall of veins
Hall of veins ruins of Lorda on
dead mines
Here in the numpad it's my mouse
And the corn be with you yeah corn would please corn would it's good gtrp is still still a thing just I just haven't done it in a few days
And you guys think Beast Mastery is the play?
like B.C.O. Swiftness is like, whatever.
Yeah, a character with that name.
Okay, it's like the oldest bug in the world.
It's whenever you just have to wait a little bit
for your character to finish letting out.
How is it fighting an unbeatable battle
when will you give in to the dark side and join Asman?
What?
What's the battle?
I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
Battle for Azeroth already happened, it sucked.
Okay, 5% crit, 10% parry sounds crazy.
I
Do entrapment is
the
I mean, what do things better, deterrence, or going 4 crit here, 4-4, and then they have
8% bonus crit and temp like, dude, you can't be like a melee god.
I mean, not getting what they're called, just play ass.
Wait, have you guys gotten legacy points yet?
Oh, so first character has to reach 25 so I can't get him yet.
the dress do it in though but let's just do it in
oh my gosh I want this dust bringer
Hold on, can we do a gold drive for me to get a dustbringer?
Who's that man?
of dark alphanage from dnd
Wait, if I get four gold, I can get a, uh, steering blade.
And we can, we can test how good steering blade is.
I really wish it was, we could get the dust bringer, but that's 30 gold.
You understand that I got it early
It's grabbing the 1% hand bigger 20
Sure foot in ah, nah
Yeah, I don't have disease cleanse.
And
I really want to spring on this guy.
and spank like melee build spamming as per um
aspects theming uh...
wing clip
and probably work a lot
you're on the way on ice
stands as a warrior, nor as a hunter.
Yeah, if anybody wants to help me with some gold on Alliance side, that would be sick.
any gold aligns I did buy a couple things to test like the procs and stuff.
I need this more than you, I think.
Thank you, X-Wing.
Thank you, Dan.
Well met.
Awesome thingy there.
Thank you, Garbeth, for those.
I appreciate it, man.
I didn't buy this already yet.
Dustbringer is better.
Searing blade is kind of worse.
The duskbringer is, but here's the thing, it has this proc, and I want to test the proc.
I want to test the proc spamming wing clip.
Does that have a poopy proc right?
I don't know, actually.
I'm in it.
Oh, sorry.
Thank you, Mizuki.
Dude, if we could get a dustbringer.
Thank you terrible weather. It's great a holo protection. Oh my gosh. Thank you
I mean I could get the searing blade
We're just doing it, we're testing, right?
Right back.
I'll have you have her a little bit.
I'm just doing what I know.
How do you get the big ogre thing?
Sabery, whimsy fendalite.
No, we might have more bad keys tomorrow.
We'll see.
Yeah, I might have more bad keys tomorrow.
I'm just trying to get from 60 you get from 14 to 20 basically
Is uncle ruck is still around
Yeah, let's go outside and Mizuki, I'll hit you.
They should add target dummies.
Is your crit at?
I think it doesn't say, I think it's just it's 11, but it actually has 4 more that doesn't
show up on the character sheet because it's only for melee abilities.
Where's on the horse side would make for the best honor? Maybe Torn? No, I'm gonna
be I'm gonna be casting the tourney. Yeah, I'm hosting the tourney. I would do I
actually do kind of want to play but I'm gonna I'm gonna host it. Yo, what's up
How are you doing yeah thanks man what can I do for you
Uh, I'm just gonna do this.
I'm not surprised, are you?
I'm not surprised, are you?
He's got some amazing things, dude.
Actually, I was going to fear his pet before I summoned my own.
There's one searing.
Dude, how are you dodging that much as a priest?
Dude, look at how much damage fireball is doing.
Sixteen percent damage.
Fair right, right nerves.
It's more of like an adjustment, like it's a stronger early game and a weaker late game.
I mean, it's, I don't think it's that big of a deal.
Let me hit you from behind.
Hey, man.
Look at how much look how much damage this
All right ready my expertise is PDE only
Like dude, look at how hard this procs.
What the hell?
Dude, look at the fireball damage is crazy.
It'll be an ordinary, true.
Yeah, I'm mashing wing clip.
That's my whole point.
Not that much, it's the same as my melee damage.
It's the same as my auto attack.
That's been trying to nerf scatter.
The chance of a result of the add is,
enough anyway.
Well, that is not proct.
Well, I like to have some procts, but I'm not procting.
I'm not procting.
I'm not procting.
Well, it has not procced, well it hasn't procced at all this time.
That's crazy, that's not even procced at all.
No, I know sparing one club is draining my mana, that's the point.
They're blizzard damagemen, I hate them.
Next time, it was marine.
The bullets shouldn't affect the proc.
Alright, here we go.
Ready?
Let's try another one.
Okay, I'm just going to do this one, and there's no point in spinning Winklet here.
I think the steering blade is higher DPS
of
I'm
Sad time, fireball isn't very much.
I
Okay
I'm gonna damage meter and throw me a call rival damage meter because I didn't like buzzard some Chris forage
You want to try that? Okay? Yeah, maybe I will
Yeah, I wonder how
There we go
Oh, that's cool. You have a ghost wolf. Yeah, I'm going to get rid of this bear. Yeah,
I'm going to get rid of the bear soon. Yeah, the range has stopped. Dog. 470 hours. That's
Crazy, that's awesome.
Yeah, that's sick. Wait, where do you get this pet?
Well, here we are in 15 games. Oh my gosh, that's okay
That's a rare spawn, and I'm just like, really?
sick
Okay, let's see.
Let's see.
Wait, you were just on the TV and a Chinese Dairy Queen?
Wait, what?
You got a video there's no way I
Was that because it whenever I was at CES checking out a robot dude, that's amazing. There's no way
Chat I'm big in China dude. I'm big in China. Wait, what did say about me?
I'm big and trying to do
So that's been a refusal to our badge unbelievable.
There's a clip with you into the booth.
Crazy
That's crazy
That's insane, okay, so there's a couple videos people I'm gonna check out it's
Everyone's big in China they're little people
Yeah, Americans are a lot bigger
Now
Yeah
See you guys want me to react to this video to the set 38 minute
Is there a good video?
Here's the problem, if I react to a 38 minute video right now, it's going to be an hour
minimum.
38 is like, you know what I mean?
That's some awesome people.
I
I'm gonna have to watch this all tomorrow. Yeah
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm just like looking at it. I'm like
It's just too much time.
Loot demon. Dude, I literally just hit 20. You're like, decked out the ass.
Okay, I'm ready. He doesn't know what he's doing.
of
Flying Tiger, dude, I need to get engineering on some of my guys.
I thought you were a paladin I'm playing I'm playing on it right now let me get
bullets
and your bullets
uh... it is a bit of a solution to the profession was would be just leaving the
players to a garden
this is where the answer to the option
now i mean i don't know i'm kind of changing my mind on the profession quest
thing at the beginning
divine bear
can I go full melee? that's what I am right now
where did I get bullets from?
any nation
Only the finest goods.
Flight flight.
Malae attacks a chance to inflict dream vision similar to TAR for one second, taking damage
by a Blitz and thus it would show 100 of them in place.
Hmm.
To lay is your sascaf, man.
I
I just try to heal myself.
Fight well. Thank you.
I did not aim shot something.
I
Was that on
Dang, my pet wasn't a thagging pervert.
I need to like set up some macros and stuff for that.
Thank you.
Oh
Nice good job
Dude, I, uh, yeah, dude, I think the melee honor build is sick.
I
Are you our talents the handsome I turn back maybe
Yeah, dude, the melee hunter is kind of cool.
Dude, the melee hunter is kinda crazy.
Cause like,
I didn't have so much parry.
Yeah, you can't heal.
Heal plus like,
I mean, you hit me, I parry, I parry hasted.
Oh, that hurts.
How did they control?
It's hard getting like my keybinds and stuff down for this guy.
Just like ran on top of it where's it like
This is starting the duel at point blank.
Like, nah, it was starting the duel at point blank.
I was like, you'll do that.
Oh my gosh, that damage is insane.
But wasn't that much more damage than it actually was, that amount of time?
Yeah, I think it's just that my gear is a big gear difference.
of
I'm done.
I
Brick
I've only a little bit of mana.
I beat him because of a wing clip the wing clip proc the steering
I need a water.
Yeah, I gotta get caught up with these guys gear, man.
of
Let my pet didn't attack, frick!
Oh, oh, I got lagged out.
That was funny.
Alright, I gotta feed that.
There's a right spot, I mean, okay.
and
I think I have the 5-gift in.
Yeah, I have to focus so hard to duel in the rain.
Maybe Rascall.
I
Was playing rust for a few hours
That was hours ago
damn this guy frickin' railed me
oh shit okay well I can't tell how he's using it
always forward think of the vibe get the thing it in
You ready Mars? Yeah.
of
I'm afraid I haven't had perception again.
Is that melee hunter? Yeah.
Look, most of my damage is fireball proc.
Yeah, there's a lot of lag today on these servers.
Nice, I could do it.
Yeah dude, Hunter is crazy.
Hunter can do a wheel of the 20 I think.
Very good.
Oh my gosh, what a get.
Nooo!
I didn't mongoose.
Oh, I couldn't because of the thing.
Oh, I couldn't because of the thing.
Oh, I couldn't because of the thing.
Nooo!
I didn't mongoose.
Oh, I couldn't because of the thing.
I couldn't see in the rain, I got stuck on the fence.
Yeah, I was like trying to jump this fence and like I couldn't see like where that like I got stuck on the tree
Mmm, it's 2 a.m.
All right
Melee hunter
I'll watch these tomorrow chat. I'll watch these tomorrow.
Um, it's rather unorthodox than the MPV. We don't really know yet. I mean, the level
20 talents is only so much you can do. Now, I will say before, uh, let's talk for a little
bit. What is the next class? As simple as wow, great success. Great success. I kind of
I'm leaning warrior, I wasn't initially.
Either dwarf shaman alliance or torrent warrior.
Cause like everybody's, there's a lot of.
Give me the gas, give me the gas.
Everybody is complaining about how bad a warrior is, so it makes me want to play one.
Orc mage.
30 is next week, maybe I'll finish out this level 20 with
There's an enemy on this guy.
Dwarf Shaman.
Night Elf.
Well, I want to do all the races too.
That's all I do to our end.
Let's see what the bias is.
Why don't you join my guild?
Dude, you know what?
I think the Wrath of the Lich King hairs are so bad.
The Wrath of the Lich King hair is literally worse than the middle of the hair.
Has anybody noticed that?
How bad the Wrath of the Lich King hair looks?
And it's always been this bad.
It's terrible.
It's because the rat hair doesn't have scalp texture.
It's so bad.
They look at how much better these look.
And they don't even look good.
They just look like, what the hell is happening here?
I feel like the female gnome,
maybe I may get a female.
I feel like the female gnome,
like there's just something so troll about this look it's just always gonna be permanently
funny to me like the female known for the pink pigtails is just like I don't know why
I just troll. I can't explain it
You just I don't know you're so funny
Eww, why is it rather, it looks so stupid.
Wait, there's a good one, too.
20 doublespring, Santa Steady Drill.
Tibby Shockshore, Cry Steady Drill,
Sally Quickrench, Trita Jump Spring,
Emily Husslegear, Dennis Quickrench,
Alara Fitzbrocket, Ella Rolani Copperblink,
Sinandra Zimbodium, Conan Cleanfuse,
Grantee Steamwright, Silly Brass Bolt,
Jendi Winsgood, Pepe Pia Jump Spring.
Jim is God.
Jim is God.
Jim is God.
Jim is God.
Oh, it's taken.
Oh, it's taken.
June and Christmas.
Homer.
Simpson
Peter
Happy Gilmore
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
She's killing me.
Larry Bird.
Tony Romo.
Adrian Peterson.
Brick.
Tom Brady.
Chad Johnson.
Barack.
Mom, no.
Abraham Lincoln.
Bowflex.
Bowflex?
I
Bo Bo flex
Meta world bees
I'm not sure what I'm doing here.
I'm just going to go back to the game.
I'm going to go back to the game.
I'm going to go back to the game.
Uh, Kim John...
Stephen Michaels.
Stephen Michaels.
It's the Fragils.
Sack.
This is not a statement.
This is such a good, good job, man.
Do they have the same question,
the Alliance and the Horde?
Orchmage.
mage with you Elf Shaman okay so Torren warrior I think we do troll warlock
Troll Warlock, Orc Mage, Torn Warrior, Skyborne Shaman,
No, I'm priest that leaves in night off rogue dwarf shaman and then
I
This guy this guy wonder it
And that leaves night elf and rogue
I'll wait way too late.
Is it crazy that they have like a demon hunter face for night elves?
They've always had it. Yeah, they've always had this demon on her face
Yeah, why why is that gold?
I
See tea
I was this is always the hair that I would do before maybe I'll switch to this one
It's crazy how when you look at the HD version they look so like they don't even look like
the same like they don't actually I don't know like they don't look right
Sounds better.
18 miles an hour customers do not have no seems that steam allows me to customers both
Rache Lenore, Mendaga, Stormseeker, Gillis Starwalker, and in our Swift main Dan of the Other Dan
to score down somebody else's earlier. Okay, so I guess night of rogue. So I'm going to
do these Alliance guys, these five Alliance guys. Mr. has been going to get banned. Dude,
I'm all out of bands today.
I already used all my band tokens.
Paladin, Mage, Warlock.
Man, it is so easy to just level up, isn't it?
I hung out, taken out every two hours, we needed a rock loman, a loman, there was a
tornado, we took shelter in the only congress lab.
There, it's sick, he's a really nice person.
Yeah, actually, I met him at Rob Gronkowski's Super Bowl party, and I have a picture with
them somewhere on Twitter.
Okay, tomorrow, Chad?
So, um, okay, so we have all the characters set up that we want to level mage on Horde
side we got Paladin mage warlock to be a druid warrior those five Paladin mage
warlock druid warrior Paladin hunter shaman priest rogue testing everything
Yeah, I mean, I think it's like, I'm really, really, really hands on with the feedback.
So I want to play every race and every class if I can, at least the 20, uh, yeah, it tells
me, yeah, I don't know what that's about.
We're doing, I'm picking out my classes because I am going to bed.
Yeah, I think I think warrior will be I'm gonna finish paladin with emiru my human paladin, but I also want to
Man, I think I think I think warrior next man, I think I gotta do warrior next don't I it's gotta be warrior next
Warrior feels good.
I think warrior is a good one because that's the one people are complaining about the most
and I want to play the one that people are complaining about the most.
Yeah everybody says warrior sucks so I think I should play the warrior.
I'll see you in a minute.
Frank Romberg, thank you for the awesome coverage.
Love the rest of her druid changes.
Thanks, dude.
Yeah, yeah, man, yep.
I said I didn't update the schedule and I didn't earlier.
I'm going to go live in the morning just chatting for an hour.
key giveaway. So this will be tomorrow.
Then after that, we're going to go, I might do a little bit of
rust. It depends. Actually, I kind of need to. I need to play some rust because I have
that drop. And also there's like a bunch of other streamers playing Russ. It's pretty
good.
Roosevelt looks great.
Yeah, I mean, it just kind of comes down like I have a drop for it.
And I agreed to it forever ago, but it's like with so much wow stuff going on and cornwood
and football season.
You know what I mean?
There's so many things.
No, I read everything Moon Mouth, it's just that there's so many, there's so many messages
going on between Twitter chat, rumble chat, kick chat, YouTube chat, and Twitch chat because
I'm multi stream.
And they're all in line.
So yeah, I mean, everything, everything comes in at once.
So because everything is in line, you know, yeah, it's the hardest part of streaming
in your opinion.
such a loaded question. I gotta think about that because there's like a lot of different
things. Turn the beat around. Yeah, I'll figure out tomorrow, man. I gotta react to the, I
gotta react to the last seven. I probably need to do it early. So I'll probably do, I'll
I'll probably do wow reactions up early.
Okay, so I need to watch the video.
It's worth getting the beta, I mean I'm having a ton of fun, but I also have like, I have
a mission.
It's very like, I care a lot about it, you know?
Yeah, so you guys didn't watch the All the Wonder Warrior
video, watch three wise, three wise video about art style.
Okay, here we go.
chatting center, I bet he was. And then actually probably I'll probably go in a
while for a few hours to react. And then I'll play Russ for a little bit.
Should I try and do a hardcore?
So I'm going to try and do a hardcore warrior in my own hardcore.
I mean, if I die, then it's then the challenge is over, right?
But then I'll keep leveling it.
But if it's done, it's a, you know what I mean?
I won't delete it.
I'll just keep it going.
But like, it's just like a challenge over.
But that's what you're using.
I'm using a...
What is this called?
Uplift.
I'll probably do that until like three, and then, and then I'll probably do that until
like three and then maybe I'll maybe I'll break and I'll play some rust for a few hours depends
on what's going on.
I love the gay club tunes this is not you know what let's just change
is the genre. Frick.
This one just keeps getting more and more.
Da, Da, Da, Da, Da, Da, Da, Da, Da!
Oh, friends of mine.
Okay, so this is the plan tomorrow.
Actually I'll probably flip this, I'll probably end with Rust, if at all.
I don't know, I wanna play Russ, but
it's like there's just so
much to do in a while, man.
And I still wanna play Russ,
cuz it's also nice to see people
from other games and
other sections, you know?
And I go run around and
stream with other people,
cuz I have a lot of friends around
the website.
It's probably one of the victory cry.
Act like an imbecile.
Was it good today?
I thought it was.
I thought it was pretty fun today.
Well, the problem is, is like, I feel like right now we're in such a high period for
Wow that it's like and honestly it's like when you have the drops it's like
normally with the drops you get like a big boost so it's worth it but there's like no boost so it's like
but I agreed to this months ago and then now it's like I don't know
yeah they're gonna fun yeah
Yeah.
Do you guys like that I do this, by the way?
Do you guys like whenever I actually update the schedule?
Does this like matter to you guys?
Do you guys appreciate this or no?
It's like whatever.
It's hard to like keep super, super like on track
is the problem.
Yeah, it might not matter, I mean, it kind of helps me keep things on track too.
Hey, Sunday, by the way, Sunday?
Specific day, Sunday.
One PM, Palin and Council, yeah, means that we should get people together for a Palin
Council discussion roundtable
So I'd like to start with an hour of reacts.
plus beta testing.
Dude, what I really want to do is I want to bring back IRL Saturdays.
Like just, I kind of kind of get a little bit of IRL in, but I get it's hard.
Dude, I, and I also, you know what I really freaking need to do?
I need to go, I need to go work out.
I need a lift.
I haven't worked down in almost like since gamescom in Germany.
You know, it's very worth. Absolutely. It's great.
It was a danger us
Love you this much
Have you been shown what the drill should go once they play the action I haven't seen it
Thank you.
Number of pounds, Dras Alamange.
Yeah.
Doing good.
Thank you.
Doing good. Thank you. Sure. Watch this video.
No, I'll watch that tomorrow.
That's fans. The number one rep. Yeah, that is true.
I don't have any of the good ones.
Okay.
I'm going to bed.
We may or may not do an IRL Saturday.
Yeah.
I'll watch this all the Wanda video.
I'll watch this, I'll watch this.
I might watch the podcast thing.
Okay, I might watch that too, man, that's like a lot of, that's like, that's like,
that's a lot of react in one day.
All right, chat, you know what time it is, it's time to go to bed.
Why don't you invite pay-over-the-podcast?
I'm going to invite people whenever I invite people, and complaining about it is crazy.
When you do a podcast, you invite guests on to talk about specific topics whenever you
invite them.
Complaining about it, crying about it.
It's not like I invited a bunch of people to this thing.
It's just like, hey, why don't we invite this guy, why don't we invite that guy?
That is the most normal, regular social interaction in the world.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's such like a base level understanding.
Like, it's crazy.
It's not a big deal.
But like, complaining about it and trying to get upset about it is insane.
You know?
I recommend watching videos on YouTube years ago and it must say you come a long way.
I just like feeling I believe I'm becoming a good man.
I don't know you, but I can tell.
Have a good night, sir, and stream.
Thank you.
Thank you guys.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
I hope you enjoy your time here.
Yeah.
I was just like, it was just such a weird thing to ask.
I'm like, anyway, anyway,
YouTube, Instagram, Discord, Reddit, Twitch, Twitter, everything is SPN TV, it's time for
me to go to bed.
We have an early day tomorrow, I have a, I've figured out early.
I want to say good night challenge.
I have a good night challenge.
We love you.
I have like, I have a, I have a, I have a work in the morning chat, so I got to go.
Wait, not pump it up.
It's the wrong side of my head.
Wait, what is it?
Oh, what's happening?
Oh, it's crashing.
Am I crashing?
YouTube, Instagram, Discord, Reddit, Twitch, Twitter, everything is SPAN TV. What is happening?
What just happened?
YouTube, Instagram, Discord, Reddit, Twitch, Twitter,
kick YouTube, rumble Twitter, Instagram, TikTok,
Facebook, everything is S-Fan TV thing.
You guys so much for joining me today.
I'm very, very tired.
It's time for me to go to bed.
I'll see you guys tomorrow, okay?
I got some stuff I gotta do in the morning
so I gotta wake up early.
I've stayed up way too late again.
Okay, these streams can't continue to stay this long.
Yeah, these streams can't continue to stay this long.
And if they are, I gotta be doing RP or something with it.
It's just that I've been having a blast doing it.
Wow, it's been super fun.
It's been going great.
And I love this game, I do.
And I want to make sure.