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03-26-2026 · 9h 09m

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[00:01:00] I
[00:01:30] And I'm living alone
[00:01:34] And I'm living, living, living alone
[00:01:40] Just a few more hours
[00:01:42] And I'll be back to you
[00:01:45] But I suppose it's probably you too
[00:01:51] I don't know what's next, it's time for passion
[00:01:54] What you might TV said it's not from me
[00:02:00] Just a few more hours and I'll be next to you
[00:02:07] But I suppose there's nothing we can do
[00:02:12] And they live and they live alone
[00:02:17] And they live and they live alone
[00:02:24] Just a few more hours
[00:02:27] And I'll be back to you
[00:02:30] But I said that this isn't the end we can't do
[00:02:35] And they live and they live alone
[00:02:39] And I'm living, I'm living alone
[00:02:47] Just a few more hours and I'll get back to you
[00:02:52] But I suppose there's nothing I can do
[00:02:58] And I'm living, I'm living alone
[00:03:04] And I'm living, I'm living alone
[00:03:09] It takes a few more hours
[00:03:12] And I'll be back to you
[00:03:15] But I suppose it's not what you think you do
[00:03:39] What about the people who know shit?
[00:03:42] Try to think something out of the world
[00:03:45] Can't teach you how to wake up in the ocean
[00:03:48] Or just to go ahead and be loved for now
[00:03:53] What else is there?
[00:03:57] Set the right hand straight
[00:04:07] God never has been a thing of the world
[00:04:15] The devil in the mirror is more, is more than the part of this world
[00:04:57] It's time for me to die
[00:05:04] I'm gonna kill you all
[00:05:06] I'm gonna let you never die
[00:05:09] It's better than nothing at all
[00:05:13] I'm gonna let you never die
[00:05:16] It's more, it's more than you pocket
[00:05:19] I'm gonna let you never die
[00:05:25] I'm more than you probably could be
[00:05:37] Better like to dance with her
[00:05:40] It's better than nothing you know
[00:05:44] Better like to dance with her
[00:05:47] It's more, it's more than you probably could be
[00:06:25] I really really had to go
[00:06:29] I'm the bastard, chill in the rock and roll
[00:06:33] My mommy stuck the door in me
[00:06:37] My sister never wanted me hanging around
[00:06:41] And my daddy lived in 63
[00:06:45] Goodbye, oh, I'm sorry but I gotta go
[00:06:52] I've been by your side all night and you have to go
[00:07:00] I've been by the sea, I've been by the sea
[00:07:16] I've been by the sea, I've been by the sea
[00:07:28] I really, really have to go
[00:07:32] Offend rockers laugh at me
[00:07:35] They wonder why I keep coming back
[00:07:39] But when Elvis died and all of the throne
[00:07:43] He left thousands thinkin' like
[00:07:47] I've been back so long
[00:07:51] Sorry, but I gotta go
[00:07:54] I've been back so long
[00:07:58] I'm ready to have to go
[00:08:17] Somebody call
[00:08:21] Sorry, but I got a problem
[00:08:24] I'm sorry, but I got you out of my way
[00:08:29] I really think it's time to go
[00:08:32] I'm sorry, but I got you out of my way
[00:08:36] I really think it's time to go
[00:08:47] You asked me why I was waiting for the day
[00:08:53] You know it doesn't really matter
[00:09:01] You wanna break me out of my silence
[00:09:08] Don't worry, look where I've turned
[00:09:15] And this one thing I'm gonna burn
[00:09:19] Oh, yeah
[00:09:22] Life feels like a wheel and it's spinning around
[00:09:29] Life feels like a wheel and it's spinning around
[00:09:36] So though I can't stand to find this trial
[00:09:40] I'm so ashamed to admit
[00:09:43] Life feels like a wheel and it's spinning around
[00:09:49] You say the future's really something we control
[00:09:57] I see a trap running in time
[00:10:04] Please tell me how you did that
[00:10:08] I'd like to know
[00:10:11] I see things only can adapt
[00:10:15] But what goes first and what goes last?
[00:10:22] And I feel like the wheels are spinning around
[00:10:29] I feel like the wheels are spinning around
[00:10:37] Don't know why you can't see a thing
[00:10:42] Back in the front of my heart she sent me back
[00:10:46] And the blackness I could read her had it spinning around
[00:10:54] What do I do?
[00:10:55] Feel like I'm out of control
[00:11:00] What do I do?
[00:11:02] Feel like I'm out of control
[00:11:12] And if you don't know what I mean, I understand
[00:11:19] I cannot give you any answers
[00:11:26] You might mistake me for a lost and desperate man
[00:11:33] But you should not be too concerned
[00:11:38] Here is my answer, now
[00:11:44] I feel like a wheel that's been around
[00:11:51] I feel like a wheel that's been around
[00:11:59] Don't know why you can't say you find it
[00:12:05] Right up from a large space in there
[00:12:08] And it's like a black wheel
[00:12:11] And it's spinning around
[00:12:15] Spinning around
[00:12:18] Spinning around
[00:12:35] I don't want you to go
[00:12:47] Let flowers go to jazz
[00:12:53] Tears won't ever sound for you
[00:13:01] I've been sick here before
[00:13:06] Living edges of salt and bones
[00:13:10] There's no other way
[00:13:14] Than here
[00:13:20] I don't need you anymore
[00:13:25] I don't need you, let me know
[00:13:31] I don't need you
[00:14:03] I don't need you anymore
[00:14:13] I don't need you anymore
[00:14:21] I don't need you anymore
[00:14:29] I will never do anything more
[00:14:42] When I came back anyway
[00:14:59] I don't need you anymore
[00:15:10] I don't need you anymore
[00:15:18] I don't need you anymore
[00:16:29] What's the use in trying? It never gets my way
[00:16:44] If you see me flyin', you'll never see me hate
[00:16:51] Something you can turn to, and leave the edge of mind
[00:16:58] Disconnected sunshine, it's easy at times
[00:17:06] It's down your world, there's a feeling you can't show
[00:17:12] It's a darkening night
[00:17:15] It's a darkening night
[00:17:45] I've lost the use of trying
[00:17:52] I've never got a way
[00:17:55] If you see me dying
[00:17:59] You'll never see me crying
[00:18:02] There's something you can't tell
[00:18:05] It's a new beginning
[00:18:07] I can't keep my mind
[00:18:09] I can't stand it
[00:18:11] It's not my time
[00:18:13] She's easy as a fire
[00:18:17] She's a man of a birth
[00:18:19] There's a scream
[00:18:21] They make a sound
[00:18:23] She's telling lies
[00:18:26] She's telling lies
[00:18:30] She's telling lies
[00:18:33] She's telling lies
[00:18:37] She's telling lies
[00:18:39] She's telling lies
[00:19:41] Women try out there
[00:19:43] Praying on your side
[00:19:45] Being a kid that you like
[00:19:48] Baby, can we dance?
[00:19:50] Can I be in with your number?
[00:19:58] Asking for a chance, baby
[00:20:00] After the party, come on over
[00:20:04] Come on, come on, come on, come on
[00:20:07] Make me feel alive, make me feel alive, make me feel alive
[00:20:26] Make it feel like dance, can I be there with you, my friend?
[00:20:33] Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on!
[00:20:36] Asking for a chance, baby, you have to
[00:20:39] While they come on over
[00:20:42] Baby, come on, come on, come on, come on!
[00:20:46] Make me feel relaxed
[00:20:50] Make me feel relaxed
[00:20:55] Make me feel relaxed
[00:20:59] You move, move, move, move, move, move, move
[00:21:04] It's my turn, you want it from me
[00:21:07] Sweet, you keep your eyes
[00:21:09] You won't let me just run
[00:21:11] And make me go for the ride
[00:21:13] I can't be true, I can't be bad
[00:21:16] I can't be a human
[00:21:18] Stop moving over
[00:21:21] Come on over baby
[00:21:24] Make me feel alive
[00:21:28] Make me feel the light, make me feel the light
[00:21:43] Make me feel the light, make me feel the light
[00:21:52] Let me be the one
[00:21:55] Let me be the one
[00:21:57] Let me be the one
[00:22:00] Let me be the one
[00:22:11] BYE
[00:22:22] You said I loved you better, now she comes to bed
[00:22:26] You said I needed better, she's all for you
[00:22:28] You said I loved you better, now I know you do
[00:22:30] You said I needed better, she's the player
[00:22:33] I always want to get full of this, that I love so
[00:22:37] Got full of you
[00:23:22] I need a Mara, baby, not today
[00:23:27] Here we come, we're walking, talking with big mouths
[00:23:32] Don't look to us, cause this ain't our town
[00:23:37] In the come around and tell me for your pie,
[00:23:39] I'll buy you a pie, I'll buy you a pie
[00:23:42] I need a Mara, baby, not today
[00:23:44] I'll buy you a pie, I'll buy you a pie
[00:23:47] In the come around and tell me for your pie,
[00:23:49] I'll buy you a pie, I'll buy you a pie
[00:23:51] Not me and Mara, baby, not you and I
[00:24:13] Sound like a bad map, now she knows you're good
[00:24:15] You said I need a bad map, she's on me
[00:24:17] You said I need a bad map, now you do
[00:24:50] Let me wander, now it's under cover of the magazine
[00:24:55] We've had our heads up in the sky
[00:24:59] Wondering how many ever little ourselves get so high
[00:25:07] I get stoned
[00:25:09] I
[00:25:13] I
[00:25:16] I'm never getting through the sky
[00:25:20] I
[00:25:22] I
[00:25:26] We are looking at the stars,
[00:25:41] Smoke is stinking, it's a fire,
[00:25:43] And they're not even breathing on.
[00:25:46] We are the sadness of the night,
[00:25:50] I don't need to get so tired,
[00:25:52] Talking to you now, you look out so fine
[00:25:58] So we can't show
[00:26:02] We can't show
[00:26:07] We can't show
[00:26:12] We can't show
[00:26:16] We can't show
[00:26:48] All I need to do is turn this world into my own
[00:26:54] And I'm gonna get some
[00:26:56] Get some
[00:27:00] Get some
[00:27:02] Get some
[00:27:04] Get some
[00:27:06] Get some
[00:27:08] Get some
[00:27:10] Get some
[00:27:12] Get some
[00:27:14] Get some
[00:27:46] I'm sleeping in a bed
[00:27:52] And they're banging on my wall
[00:27:57] I'm trying to find a lock of doors
[00:28:04] It's like there's nothing
[00:28:08] Nothing at all
[00:28:13] There's still life of big dreams
[00:28:18] When it slowly turns small
[00:28:23] I'm gonna breath long as you can
[00:28:28] Feel that feeling, trace from your hands
[00:28:33] I'm gonna breath long as you can
[00:28:38] Feel the feelings
[00:28:40] Trains on your hands
[00:29:01] Shake off your feelings
[00:29:05] This time that's before
[00:29:08] It's just paranoia, it's a real good door
[00:29:18] This hour's a gift, it's a real good chance
[00:29:28] I take the bet, that I won't just dance
[00:29:37] Hold your breath, as long as you can
[00:29:42] Feel the feeling, dreams from your hands
[00:29:46] Hold your breath, long as you can
[00:29:51] Feel the feeling, dreams from your hands
[00:30:07] She's
[00:30:15] Watched everything that holds me down
[00:30:19] She's
[00:30:21] Cheered up as my heart hits the ground
[00:30:25] She's
[00:30:27] Taken on the world and asked for more
[00:30:31] She said
[00:30:33] Time opens up all the broken doors
[00:30:37] And she's in fury everywhere
[00:30:41] All I can do is stop and stand
[00:30:44] Unaware
[00:30:47] He's headed to the 12th chain season
[00:31:06] He's screaming for it all, that's not the reason
[00:31:12] He-he-he-he-he,
[00:31:14] The test of promises with blood on the wind.
[00:31:18] He-he-he-he-he,
[00:31:20] I do like to, I-I-I-I-I-I'm wrong again.
[00:31:24] But she sees beauty everywhere.
[00:31:28] All I can do is stop and stare,
[00:31:31] Unaware.
[00:31:36] She sees beauty everywhere.
[00:31:40] I can do it, start and step on our way
[00:31:48] And we've been through this all the thousand times before
[00:31:54] Keep on screaming till we're faced down on the floor
[00:32:00] And I don't like to be this way and I'm on a yield
[00:32:06] I suppose there's nothing we can do
[00:32:40] I want you to respond and stand on the wheel
[00:32:46] As you take me the everywhere
[00:32:50] I want you to respond and stand on the wheel
[00:32:57] On the wheel
[00:33:10] I'm on top and I know what that brings Heart like action
[00:33:36] I'm in charge, pulling them strings I don't lose, I never get wings
[00:33:41] Spotlight shines and I'm getting locked in Spotlight action
[00:33:44] Can't feel my time, I'm giving up now Always stay back, get it on how
[00:33:49] With a big family, I'm doing this proud Yeah, watch me bliss, pull it off top and get it in your town
[00:33:54] I've been a king, and I'm telling them loud Bill's or Jack's not taking my crown
[00:33:58] Yeah, watch me bliss
[00:34:00] I'm on top and I know what that brings Spotlight Action
[00:34:07] I'm in charge, pulling them strings I don't lose, everyday wins
[00:34:14] Spotlight shines and I'm getting locked in Spotlight Action
[00:34:17] Getting to the top and I'm too resourceful Everyday fresh when I'm trippin' in stores
[00:34:22] My destination, I'm staying on course Yeah, right on track
[00:34:26] They wanna test me, I've been through wars
[00:34:28] Never boxed in, I've been breaking down walls
[00:34:30] From a whole team, I've been opening doors
[00:34:32] Run that back
[00:34:39] Getting hate from through my things
[00:34:41] I stay flat, it's like I got wings
[00:34:43] I'm one tough but I know what that brings
[00:34:45] Spotlight action
[00:34:47] I'm in charge, pulling them strings
[00:34:49] I don't lose, everyday wins
[00:34:51] Spotlight shines and I'm getting locked in
[00:34:53] Spotlight action
[00:34:54] Oh my god!
[00:35:24] E.S.L.1 Birmingham is brought to you by DHL.
[00:35:54] and checks.
[00:36:24] You're 8 main stage teams are confirmed.
[00:36:54] The venue in Birmingham is ready!
[00:36:56] Ladies and gentlemen, ESL One is getting started with those playoffs and we cannot wait.
[00:37:04] Hi everybody, and welcome to the first day of the playoffs!
[00:37:08] I'm joined by T-Governor and Winter.
[00:37:11] There's so much excitement happening in those two right now, I've got this amazing
[00:37:15] tournament in front of us and we're coming into a fresh patch to enjoy it also.
[00:37:19] Winter, start things off.
[00:37:21] What is your favorite thing about the new patch?
[00:37:24] Tuscara with the shark. So you have your pack team and you have your drinking body. Why are you shaking your head?
[00:37:31] Like, why? I see you, Robson. I see you.
[00:37:33] Yeah, I wanted like a second thing, you know what I'm saying? Like you talked about the tusk. It's great.
[00:37:39] Like the double heroes where they get both fasted. Something like, oh, there's so many that are good.
[00:37:43] But I'm shaking my head because I realized that I am just going to be using it for MMR.
[00:37:47] So yeah, it's more like a, I know what I'm going to be getting myself into.
[00:37:51] What about you give it give us the curve ball? What's the what's your favorite thing about the new badge?
[00:37:56] What do you mean? It's obvious. It's the cobalt getting buffed, right?
[00:38:01] We're earful on Birmingham every time the cobalt raises his cup to drink in the arena the crowd do as well down in their points
[00:38:07] They got like an extra two damage on the cobalt. So Valves knows what they're doing. They're buffing the arena. That's all that matters
[00:38:14] They certainly are indeed. Well, let's take a reminder about what exactly is up for grabs here
[00:38:19] course, there's a lot of money
[00:38:23] on the line, but there's also
[00:38:25] the all important EWC, those
[00:38:27] EPT points to qualify to
[00:38:29] react in the summer. One of
[00:38:31] the biggest tournaments off
[00:38:33] the year. Huge prize pool up
[00:38:35] for grabs and here is the most
[00:38:37] important time to get those
[00:38:38] points. Look at that
[00:38:39] difference. I mean, dream
[00:38:40] leagues. You get a lot, but
[00:38:42] he has won Birmingham 35,000
[00:38:44] points up for grabs. But how
[00:38:46] does that translate into actual
[00:38:48] Well, we can take a look about the leaderboard and see exactly where everybody is at the moment and we're freshly updated
[00:38:55] past the playoffs.
[00:38:59] Winter, you get notice anything different about this? Anything surprising about this leaderboard so far?
[00:39:05] I'm kind of a little bit sad that OG isn't hired. They started the season well, but they're kind of hitting a bumpy spot right now.
[00:39:12] They're not really doing so well. So hopefully they get to figure out what's wrong and get more points.
[00:39:17] more points here, so they can actually qualify.
[00:39:20] Yeah, and of course, plenty more points up for grabs as well, right, Robson?
[00:39:24] Because there's still the playoff points to be grabbed from those teams
[00:39:26] which haven't left this tournament yet.
[00:39:30] No, exactly. And I think that if you're liquid, right,
[00:39:33] you're not at the Eswan Birmingham, you're looking at this EPT leaderboard
[00:39:36] just kind of getting updated every day.
[00:39:38] You know, the likes of Falkens, of course,
[00:39:40] even P-Vision with their survival of yesterday's tiebreakers.
[00:39:43] You know, they're like, oh, no, we're creeping lower and lower,
[00:39:46] stop. Stop please. Stop doing so
[00:39:51] well. So, uh, of course, that
[00:39:52] is just the reality of it. But
[00:39:54] yeah, it's going to be scary as
[00:39:56] we enter the kind of the kind of
[00:39:58] detail end of Birmingham. Yeah,
[00:40:01] absolutely. And if you're
[00:40:02] anywhere on that leaderboard and
[00:40:03] you're not this event, you are
[00:40:05] sweating. You are getting
[00:40:06] nervous because there's only
[00:40:07] one more event to go for the
[00:40:08] year. One more dreaming to go
[00:40:09] to earn those points. Um and
[00:40:12] yeah, it's a tough situation
[00:40:13] to be in. But hopefully those
[00:40:15] coming up performances because
[00:40:17] we're fully expecting these teams
[00:40:19] in this top eight to be making it through to
[00:40:21] EWC and putting in performance at
[00:40:23] Reab which will be very exciting indeed
[00:40:25] but of course it's not just
[00:40:27] EBT points up for grabs
[00:40:29] there is of course money on the line as well
[00:40:31] so let's take a look at that prize pool
[00:40:33] and see how much is going to be going
[00:40:35] to each of these teams and for the first
[00:40:37] place it'll be 250 grand
[00:40:39] plus
[00:40:41] the 40k club reward
[00:40:43] as well. It's a decent chunk of change. And of course, if we look down to the ninth, tenth
[00:40:48] and onwards, we can see the teams already eliminated and what they're going home with.
[00:40:53] So, you know, not quite the 250K, unfortunately for those guys. But from this point onwards,
[00:40:58] every single slot makes a huge difference. You know, you got from seventh, eighth to
[00:41:02] fifth, sixth, it's almost double. And then again, it just keeps on going up. So
[00:41:06] every single position makes a huge difference to how much you're bringing home.
[00:41:11] Uh, what kind of finish would you be happy with if you were playing in this tournament?
[00:41:17] How much would you sort you out, mate?
[00:41:19] Uh, I mean, as a donor player, you only ever want to win, right?
[00:41:24] I'm playing the game to destroy the enemy's ancient, so I'm going to stay first.
[00:41:27] Right?
[00:41:28] Done.
[00:41:29] What a crazy answer.
[00:41:30] Completely crazy.
[00:41:31] I know it.
[00:41:32] You seem more like you'd be happy with, you know, a third place.
[00:41:35] You seem more humble.
[00:41:36] What?
[00:41:37] No.
[00:41:38] What's that? Everybody wants to win. It doesn't matter who it is. If you're playing in a team,
[00:41:47] even as a new patch, you don't care, you want to win.
[00:41:50] Of course.
[00:41:51] Alright, let's take a look at that schedule and see exactly where everything's ended up
[00:41:55] right now and who is playing when here is a bracket. So, we're starting things off
[00:42:00] with the upper bracket today. These are the two series we've got coming up, but
[00:42:03] over in the lower bracket. I just want to talk about that first. Wintel, which
[00:42:07] Which of these two series are you looking forward to more? Which do you think will be the most hype?
[00:42:13] For the winner bracket, you said?
[00:42:15] For the lower bracket.
[00:42:16] Low bracket. I think I'm probably more hyped for Team Falcons against Paravigion.
[00:42:21] Even though I have some countrymen in the other series, you know, Miles and Extreme Gaming.
[00:42:26] But I think Team Falcons against Paravigion has a lot for both teams on the line.
[00:42:31] I think Falcons, they kind of started the season poorly.
[00:42:35] Don't know if the patch helped them or is it good for them?
[00:42:38] Whereas for Paravision, I know the patch definitely helped them
[00:42:41] because they played a lot better on the last day.
[00:42:44] Before that, they were kind of playing meh, not doing so well.
[00:42:46] So interested to see how the series goes.
[00:42:49] Yeah, P-Vision, we were kind of expecting us to be kind of locked into this
[00:42:53] never-ending tiebreaker, but P-Vision just said,
[00:42:56] nah, we're just going to quickly two-oh this
[00:42:58] and get to the playoffs and let everyone get to bed at a reasonable time.
[00:43:01] So I guess shout out P-Vision for throwing that one out nice
[00:43:05] and quickly. And then of course we have the upper bracket here. It is Team Yandex versus
[00:43:10] Team Spirit and Aurora Gaming versus Tundra Esports, two very exciting series from two
[00:43:16] teams doing absolutely phenomenally at this event so far, and exactly what we're going
[00:43:21] to be watching today. Now we are of course going to get into Yandex versus Team Spirit
[00:43:26] in just a second, but I'd like you to give us the brief, the footnotes on Aurora
[00:43:32] versus Tundra in these two teams.
[00:43:36] Brief footnotes, Tundra, they're the team that's meant to win it all,
[00:43:40] but they tournament to tournament, they either win it or they kind of middle the pack.
[00:43:44] So this time around, they're kind of back in form in Aurora.
[00:43:47] You know, what is it? You've got Makoto back on the mid lane,
[00:43:49] no stand-ins, shenanigans, they've been played with stand-ins for so long.
[00:43:53] So it's like a true honest test of Aurora,
[00:43:56] what they've been able to achieve versus Tundra,
[00:43:58] you know, the Goliath of any event they go to.
[00:44:00] But you know all I'm happy with is I after today it's like it's all arena
[00:44:04] It's all like so it's like there's kind of like a lifeline for all these teams
[00:44:07] Of course, they're in the upper bracket
[00:44:08] They play one more cozy game they get to play without the pressure of all the fans and then tomorrow
[00:44:14] Saturday Sunday, that's when everything changes to them. So yes, you know
[00:44:18] Really lock in your 7.41 tech before you have to play in front of everybody
[00:44:22] Yeah, and that is of course gonna be sort of the highlight here as well
[00:44:26] How quickly can you adapt I mean winter from all the four teams are going to see playing today
[00:44:31] Who do you think is going to be changing things up the most and bringing some new ideas or does everybody just have to do it?
[00:44:37] Don't people be changing too much of that identity. They've been truly successful with how they've been playing
[00:44:43] But if I were to pick someone to do something of the ordinary in the new patch
[00:44:47] It's probably time with 33. He's gonna figure out something that nobody thinks is possible
[00:44:53] That is true. That is true.
[00:44:55] And I'm very much looking forward to that.
[00:44:56] But let's focus in on the series we've got in front of us.
[00:44:59] It is, of course, Yandex versus Team Spirit,
[00:45:03] two teams which have done absolutely phenomenally
[00:45:06] so far at this event.
[00:45:09] I mean, from what we've seen from them in the group stage,
[00:45:12] what's been their biggest strengths on both sides?
[00:45:15] A team that must start us off with Spirit.
[00:45:18] The Spirit, it's the, of course, the return of, wow,
[00:45:21] the man you see on the screen on the right hand side there.
[00:45:24] I think his addition or not addition, but his return to the roster is so important for them.
[00:45:29] We had in interviews and previous events, how like lords that have a player that he creates attention around him.
[00:45:35] And because he's such a like a loud player in the early game, even if he's not like going 10 and 0,
[00:45:41] he's just making moves happen that that before the other players get to shine right later down the line.
[00:45:47] And I think with their previous iterations of standings in the mid lane, they did not have that.
[00:45:50] So spirit, they are looking scary because of that man in the middle.
[00:45:54] So we'll see if you can continue just being just a massive nuisance to teams.
[00:46:00] Well, Winter, let's lock in on Yanbex.
[00:46:01] I mean, from what we've seen so far from these guys,
[00:46:04] what's been their biggest strength to the team?
[00:46:07] I think Yanbex, they're really good at the medicals part of the game.
[00:46:11] They're really good at farming everything on the map.
[00:46:13] I'm particularly a big fan of melody.
[00:46:15] I think he's really good at playing the dead lane.
[00:46:17] And he also has this understanding right now
[00:46:19] that as a position for you need to kind of scale. You see him always buying agnems as
[00:46:24] a second item on his wall or something. That was the first batch. And he always makes sure
[00:46:29] that he contributes a lot in the scaling and the team fight. And I think that has been
[00:46:33] one of the drawing forces of why you and I have been so successful.
[00:46:37] Yeah, so it's been all about the map play for them, all about the team fights as
[00:46:41] well. And yeah, he's been a huge part of that. Of course, it hasn't been flawless
[00:46:46] for Yandex though and I believe we've got a little graphic to show exactly what these
[00:46:50] teams have been coming up against. So Winter, tell us what we're seeing on our screens
[00:46:55] right now. What are the issues then?
[00:46:57] Basically for Yandex they've been only losing, they lost two games and they've been losing
[00:47:01] only to SF and Phoenix and that tells me that this is a team where they try to usually
[00:47:08] play towards late game and in the late game they're having problems when a team
[00:47:12] fight of the opposing team has SFM Phoenix right is a very very big fighting potential
[00:47:19] with the Reckham and the Egg and I think this is where they've been struggling like in the
[00:47:23] ultra leg game because in the early game I think mid first minute until minute 20 25
[00:47:28] I don't really see much of a problem for Yandex they've been dominating whereas for
[00:47:31] team spirit they've been losing to Jekiro they lost one game against Aura against
[00:47:36] Jekiro and both games against Falcons you don't see the second game but they
[00:47:39] also lost to Jack here. So that tells me that teams great. They are really afraid of the styles
[00:47:44] snow body support. They can take your top because they are very slow team. They play more for the
[00:47:48] late game. So they're weak against heroes that can take control of the early game. And sometimes
[00:47:53] you lose so much that you cannot really farm to the late game. So I think Jack here is the hero
[00:47:57] that can do that to you. I don't know about the new patch, but that was the previous patch.
[00:48:01] Absolutely. I mean, to go, you got anything else to add to a winter's point from these
[00:48:05] graphics what these do of heroes are particularly good at against these teams?
[00:48:09] Yeah, I think he would put it in the jacquero. Even though he did get nerfed,
[00:48:13] right, with the panic off that he would fire, and like kind of the progression that you can do
[00:48:17] to the game, he's still going to be pumping out like the same damage with his spells. I think
[00:48:22] you have to respect the fact that you might need to think about a clarity or a mango where
[00:48:26] before it was like, haha, I'm jacquero, the overlord of the early game, come near me and
[00:48:30] you disappear, right? So I still feel like there is going to be a lot of merit behind
[00:48:34] picking up the hero, but no. Spirit, they often be walking down this line of, can we, can we outplay in
[00:48:40] the lanes to make sure our draft gets online for that later portion of the game that Winter was
[00:48:43] mentioning? But yeah, I felt like Yandex, they're going to be well equipped to try and muscle
[00:48:48] up the Spirit because you can't allow them to kind of get into the game. Like you need to
[00:48:52] try and create these problems, because once they're online, of course it's Spirit, they are
[00:48:56] going to be able to show these like beautiful utilizations of like item choices and kiting and
[00:49:01] in this stuff. So yeah, just you have to break them as early as possible.
[00:49:05] Yeah, you can never count spirit out of the game.
[00:49:07] The only way to do is to completely lock them out.
[00:49:09] And even then, if they're informed, then sometimes that's just not possible either.
[00:49:14] But yeah, next, you know, this is a team which is seemingly from this year
[00:49:19] just looked so good from from the beginning.
[00:49:21] And they were forming for a while.
[00:49:22] But what I really ask is is the player which he's impossible
[00:49:25] to overlook, possibly because he's so massive.
[00:49:28] But, Saxa, is there any team which he can't immediately turn into a tier 1 team?
[00:49:33] I mean, I always like to say that position 4 players are always the soul of the team.
[00:49:38] Like, how far the team can go, I think it's usually dependent on your possible player.
[00:49:43] Because the first 10-15 minutes is usually decided by the position 4 player
[00:49:47] and you need somebody that has a wide array of hero pool.
[00:49:50] You can play the ranged heroes, you can play the melee heroes
[00:49:53] and you also need to have like confidence.
[00:49:55] You need to have a lot of voice, a lot of authority in the first 15 minutes deciding
[00:50:00] what do you need to do on the team, and especially when you're playing a hero like Toss,
[00:50:04] I think oftentimes a player can play the hero, but sometimes they don't really get the same result
[00:50:10] because they're not really authoritative in the first 15 minutes of the game.
[00:50:13] You tell your coach, hey, I need you to do this, you know,
[00:50:15] instead of just waiting for the coach to tell you what to do in the game.
[00:50:18] I think Stuxa is the one that usually has a lot of voice in the team
[00:50:22] He's telling them I want to do this. This is what I want to do. I'm going to go here get ready
[00:50:26] You know and that is the type of position for player that allows the team to be successful
[00:50:31] So you got no I mean honestly team spirit have been around for ages in this iteration
[00:50:36] You know quite a long time as well
[00:50:37] They're very comfortable playing with each other now next not quite the same experience
[00:50:42] I would say do you think there is a risk of this patch knocking them off the top spot? I
[00:50:47] Don't you know because what you're a team that has found success?
[00:50:52] To get these successful, you've had to create a formula or a foundation of your team, how
[00:50:55] you operate, how you communicate about heroes to counter them.
[00:50:59] And when a new patch comes into play, you're not destroying everything you've built up,
[00:51:03] right? You're just going, okay, this is our formula. Now we have to read and add this
[00:51:06] new element in. So I think if you truly have built a successful tournament winning
[00:51:11] team, a patch should never stop you from being successful. It might hinder you
[00:51:15] in like, you know, not making the same thing as 4th, 3rd, right? But it really
[00:51:19] should you should still be progressing through thought it looks like it really be like a bad side if one patch
[00:51:25] Then lead to the team from being you know, but you know finals day type team like the index is
[00:51:31] Yeah, absolutely. And are there any heroes now coming into the meta which you think could actually benefit?
[00:51:37] Yandex which you've seen being played in pubs or some of the early patch games anything which you think they could really excel with oh
[00:51:44] I mean of course outside the obvious like fly stealers dooms those heroes
[00:51:49] I think Lich might have some some merit behind the the sacrifice. I've not seen it in pubs yet
[00:51:54] But I just feel like whenever sacrifice is in the game
[00:51:57] You have to think about from how important is this XP manipulation and then I think honestly
[00:52:02] I think Leshrac Leshrac's a hero that will just be returning right with the bloodstone buffs and the the fact that you just
[00:52:08] I think that's right to me. It's
[00:52:12] become a staple once again in
[00:52:14] kind of competitive Dota. Yeah,
[00:52:16] cheer. He likes it, but Lyle
[00:52:17] loves it. He loves a left
[00:52:19] right. So this could really
[00:52:20] favor the team spirit there.
[00:52:21] Some of those heroes mentioned
[00:52:23] and team spirit. Of course,
[00:52:25] they didn't have the best
[00:52:27] start in the first three
[00:52:28] series. They went one win,
[00:52:29] one draw, one loss, but spirit
[00:52:31] actually managed to turn that
[00:52:32] around. And since then they've
[00:52:34] been undefeated. They've taken
[00:52:35] every single game since that
[00:52:37] that opening sort of struggle. So do you think they're back in form now winter with
[00:52:42] Lala under their belt? I feel a bit more comfortable. You know, is this back to old
[00:52:45] spirit yet? Yeah, I mean, they're quite close to that. I feel like the last couple
[00:52:50] series I've watched our games, I feel like they have regained a lot of
[00:52:53] confidence. They are particularly really good at the team fights again. You know,
[00:52:55] I think a hero to watch out for is maybe the Phoenix from Pento. I think
[00:52:59] it could be a critical hero here. Both teams love the hero. And as I
[00:53:03] mentioned right previously, SF Phoenix, these are the type of heroes, maybe Yandex they have
[00:53:08] to be more careful about you know because they struggle against those heroes so maybe
[00:53:11] it'll be good for them to watch out for that.
[00:53:14] Absolutely, and you know, has there been any weaknesses with the spirit that we've seen
[00:53:18] so far you know, what were their struggles in the early stages for them?
[00:53:23] I feel like maybe the early game not going so well, sometimes the lanes and I think
[00:53:29] for spirit, it's always about the early game,
[00:53:32] can I get past the early game?
[00:53:34] They usually have quite greedy lineup
[00:53:36] and they don't really mind playing a little bit behind,
[00:53:39] say like two, three K behind after 10, 15 minutes.
[00:53:42] But sometimes I think the games,
[00:53:43] they just let it slip too far back
[00:53:46] and they lose control of the Tom,
[00:53:47] they lose control approach.
[00:53:49] And there's not much you can do in this sort of game
[00:53:51] where you're just that far behind.
[00:53:53] So I think for spirit, they need to ensure that
[00:53:55] even if they don't do so well in the early game,
[00:53:57] everything has to be kept in control. I think the index are the one that are going to bring it to them in the early game spirit as
[00:54:03] usual, I'm going to expect them to be a little bit more defensive in the first 15, 20 minutes.
[00:54:09] So T governor, I mean, very quickly, what do you think that's going to look like in terms of their drafting in terms of
[00:54:15] their game play? You know, how do they answer that problem?
[00:54:18] Honestly, I don't know an answer for you. I would like to share one of the teams where we've always praised them on
[00:54:24] ability to find like no problem in a draw. They'll find new heroes to pick. If they see
[00:54:29] a problem, they'll pick a chaos night if they need to back in the day, right? Like they'll
[00:54:33] pick heroes for the draft that they're in compared to other teams where it's like they
[00:54:37] are always following like the perfect formula. So when you throw a new patch and you have
[00:54:41] spirit, it is a matter of like, where are they going to go with it? Because if someone's
[00:54:45] going to have an idea, they have the trust to test out that idea. And they
[00:54:48] don't really care if it is a competitive game or scream, whatever, like they're
[00:54:51] going to do it. So the spirit in the early days, I'm just sitting back and going, please
[00:54:56] show us what you're going to try and invent. Like, will it work? Can you get it online
[00:54:59] in time? Yeah, collapse. You're sorry. I don't know what these guys are going to come out
[00:55:03] with, but I'm excited to see, especially from your tour as well. And also excited to see
[00:55:08] what he has to say about his team. We are in good shape. We're trying to progress our
[00:55:16] form as a team and as every individual player they get the double lasso as well
[00:55:22] it's too late they've lost two supports one will buy back though you turn up
[00:55:26] focusing on the most important thing why we always like a tier one and have no
[00:55:32] bad seasons it's because we have a good system the system of team spirit not
[00:55:37] as the players each time oh they find themselves a tiny that's a good way
[00:55:41] to stop from collapse as well keeping them at bay pops the
[00:55:45] Refresher another beautiful spear onto two heroes with a macro pirate is burning them up every time when we play in a line
[00:55:51] It's more interesting more emotions. They scream in the yapping the earth in this. It's very interesting for me
[00:55:58] I'm always better play fun
[00:56:01] Take any place but not second one because second one
[00:56:06] The worst place what you can even take
[00:56:10] It took laws but not enough
[00:56:12] We all have a lot of motivation to be best players, that's I guess keeps us up.
[00:56:23] I mean team spirit, you can never count them out at any tournament, one of the most successful
[00:56:28] teams in Dota 2 history and they just don't stop coming, they don't stop innovating
[00:56:33] and they don't stop working so so hard to be one of the best teams around.
[00:56:38] I can't wait to see them play in this upcoming series.
[00:56:41] So what's your favorite part about Team Spirit and their sort of newer iterations that we've
[00:56:47] been seeing recently?
[00:56:48] Sorry, I really didn't like how they all were wearing slightly different shades of grey for
[00:56:55] their jersey.
[00:56:56] It looked like they just had different washing machine settings and it was kind of tilting
[00:56:58] me on that player graphic.
[00:57:01] So maybe that's probably the thing I don't like about Spirit.
[00:57:05] Cool.
[00:57:06] Thank you.
[00:57:07] Yeah, I'll let them know.
[00:57:09] I mean, I think we'll, we'll
[00:57:13] let them know to try to coordinate
[00:57:15] their grades a little bit better.
[00:57:17] Alrighty, we are into this draft.
[00:57:20] Let's get into it and see exactly
[00:57:22] how this is going to go. I'm already
[00:57:24] interested. Usually bands are kind
[00:57:26] of boring to me. I'm like, yeah,
[00:57:27] first bands. I don't really care.
[00:57:28] But at the moment, I still find this
[00:57:30] incredibly interesting, especially
[00:57:32] when two of the teams you talked
[00:57:34] about the most, the doom and the
[00:57:36] life stealer are going through
[00:57:37] winter. Do you think anyone's
[00:57:39] Doom, because Doom kind of counters Lifestealer, I feel like that's probably my choice, I mean,
[00:57:44] they're going to ban out the Doom, but at the same time, I feel like it's not conceptually
[00:57:50] that great to open with a Lifestealer, even if Lifestealer is broken. There's a lot of counters
[00:57:54] in the game for it, so I'm not so sure if that would be something that I want to do on the
[00:57:59] eighth pick, you know, to open my draft with a Lifestealer. It's also like, when a new patch
[00:58:05] drops and big cores like this become instantly popular on day one. I feel like what winter's
[00:58:12] mentioning like historically if you go back away from 7.41, like the whole dooms now in
[00:58:17] play. Okay, how good to Medusa? How viable is that hero? Is life stealer in play? Okay,
[00:58:22] can we can we get can we morphling other other options that I thought? Yes, they're
[00:58:26] good, but you need to go in a little bit deeper into your years of experience and
[00:58:30] just throw some old school counters into the mix. Like if it's like it is a first
[00:58:34] picked here. Let's say that becomes a consistent thing. I would like to think that that's going
[00:58:39] to be honest. It's like picking nigma in the offlane, break it, right? To me, I don't know,
[00:58:44] I'm not that scared by it. I know it's good, but I do feel like this might be just that
[00:58:48] they want overreaction personally.
[00:58:50] There's also the thing about the pace of the game, right? Because it feels like the
[00:58:55] game is very, very quick right now. So there's also a lot to consider. Do you want to
[00:59:00] pick heroes that are like slow, you know, but I guess you can kind of fight early with the
[00:59:05] ancient creep. So you can kind of deal with that. But at the same time, I do feel like
[00:59:10] if you don't do so good in the lane, because like sometimes you can kind of lose your lane,
[00:59:14] if you don't know your matchup, you pick it early, you lose your lane, and the hero
[00:59:17] kind of just struggles a lot.
[00:59:21] I love the ban, so from from the index, like it is it is kind of hilarious, right?
[00:59:25] Like every team can have a new identity on how to ban with the patch. And for
[00:59:29] And then it was like, fuck you, Laugh.
[00:59:31] And that's it.
[00:59:32] That's that.
[00:59:33] That's that draft, right?
[00:59:34] Next.
[00:59:35] And the pangol's kind of been really, really good with the new page.
[00:59:39] I listen in the games that I've been watching, I feel like the hero has, even before the
[00:59:43] buffs, I kind of felt like maybe the hero was already viable in some way.
[00:59:48] Some players have been picking the hero and I think in the new update, this hero
[00:59:53] is definitely possible.
[00:59:54] Like you're getting the extra stun duration, getting what else?
[00:59:58] The extra slow from the Shrush Poker, they didn't nerf the Lucky Shot minus armor, but
[01:00:02] I think overall the hero got like a huge buff in their patch and he's a very fast hero.
[01:00:07] I think there's going to be a lot of small little skirmishes going around in the map
[01:00:11] and the focus on the game is probably going to be more on the middle section of the map.
[01:00:16] I feel like because they removed the ancients on the corners and so the only ancient
[01:00:20] camps remaining in the game are the two ancient camps in the middle of the map.
[01:00:24] So I expect heroes that excel at fighting around the rivers, around the triangles to be popular, like a pangol.
[01:00:31] Are there any other examples of that you can link with Winter which teams might be focused on?
[01:00:36] You mean like fighting in the areas?
[01:00:37] The middle section of the map?
[01:00:39] Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think maybe something like Sniper.
[01:00:44] I mean, even any big, ultimate like Warlock Phoenix, they're still gonna be good no matter what.
[01:00:50] I will see if he the team goes in those directions learning when we got TA and Warlock man now
[01:00:59] because you don't want that TA you're meditating on you you know that would be that would be
[01:01:03] I also like the respect for Warlock. I think a lot of people when they read the patch
[01:01:08] even though Warlock only had innate changes the loss of Grimoire is a major thing for
[01:01:13] the hero.
[01:01:14] He spells the state. He will still secure your state. He still will shuffle. Even if
[01:01:21] we test the mad stones, right? Because if you shuffle where you've pulled camp and you
[01:01:24] get the mad stones, that can break a lot of lanes, right? So I do think that Warlock, I'm
[01:01:30] happy to see it still respected, right? It might not become the every other draft
[01:01:35] type here. It might take a little bit more for teams to really want it. But I'm happy
[01:01:39] that people just didn't instantly forget about it due to the lack of, sorry, the
[01:01:43] loss of his facets. And we didn't really talk about the storm for too much, but with the
[01:01:47] Andex banning out all these mid laners, and with the Shadow Demon, the opening phase,
[01:01:52] it kind of makes sense. You know what, I'll just take your, your, your Storm Spirit and
[01:01:56] the hero of the, you know, winter. What was the one hero that you're most excited about?
[01:02:00] When you like, I like my task. I don't know why you suddenly became a small lad from
[01:02:05] Birmingham, but still welcome is Birmingham, I guess. But yeah, Tusk, it is very good.
[01:02:10] You're gonna pick that here drinking buddies, right? Yeah, my guy. There we go. I'm right
[01:02:16] Again, please drink responsibly but when you're in Birmingham, you get down in a pint or two lads
[01:02:21] It is it's part of the part of the thing
[01:02:26] Why does it look like a pre patch update that drows?
[01:02:33] I mean, yeah, I mean there is a chance that this is all just pre-recorded, you know
[01:02:36] And we got both to say this right now. Yeah, I mean who knows.
[01:02:40] So about the voice, really changes. So it means that the hero is not as tanky as before,
[01:02:45] but he does a lot more damage, right? So the trade-off is he has more damage than tankiness
[01:02:51] right now. Yeah.
[01:02:52] Does that change the matchup against Storm in the lane?
[01:02:57] I mean, he's gonna have, yeah, his physical barrier is sort of old.
[01:03:02] And then he's going to be able to out-deny potentially.
[01:03:04] Oh, I thought he was going to be able to stall mid.
[01:03:09] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:03:10] The remnant.
[01:03:11] Yeah.
[01:03:12] Yeah.
[01:03:13] Exactly.
[01:03:14] Now, I would lean to say Storm's probably happier with it.
[01:03:19] The style of game, I think, still will play the same way, right?
[01:03:23] Like, even though Jokira has been nerfed with mana cost, it's still going to do the
[01:03:26] same thing, right?
[01:03:27] You're still going to pressure the lane.
[01:03:28] You're going to walk towards mid, and we are going to see the battle of the
[01:03:31] between these two heroes, whoever wins, Albat will probably then take the tower after, right,
[01:03:36] with the Kanapot wave. So, I think we are following the same script of pre-patch Dota,
[01:03:41] in how we're seeing the drafts, like you said.
[01:03:43] But you're also losing the damage in the lane for Jaquiro,
[01:03:46] because you don't have your facet anymore, the twin turret facet, so I think it's about
[01:03:51] about 7 to 8 damage you're losing out, if you don't have that facet. So I think it's
[01:03:55] still a pretty big deal outside of the mana cost on the liquid fire.
[01:03:58] Yeah, luckily it wasn't six or seven damage, but that's fine.
[01:04:03] Then my bat to you, take your life.
[01:04:08] I just wanted to know how to sit for a minute.
[01:04:10] Don't do that to me, don't do that to me. Please.
[01:04:13] That's my one time I'll ever say that in my life. I'm out.
[01:04:16] All right, we got a hoodwink coming out for Team Spirit.
[01:04:19] None of you has had a lot of success at ESL one Birmingham,
[01:04:22] but you can certainly see why it makes sense to them here.
[01:04:24] You've got your task to go in, be your frontline support,
[01:04:26] And then you hook win step back blow people up the sharpshooter throw out some a always stuns and generally be an elusive little hamster in the back of the fight
[01:04:35] I mean the centers was already really good. Yeah against the SD and normally you you can't really get away
[01:04:41] But with the standing you can run away reset. So I always like sent on to shadow demon
[01:04:47] I guess with the loss of promodulate now, it's kind of okay to pick big tanky heroes against shadow demon again, right?
[01:04:56] Yeah, I mean, Shadow Demon lost a facet, so that's good.
[01:05:00] I'm actually so happy that's not a thing.
[01:05:02] Walking to Roshan and going,
[01:05:04] BOOP! Hey!
[01:05:05] That was really high-spill.
[01:05:07] I really love the aspect of the LSD.
[01:05:10] Yeah, I think Spirit's just going to be...
[01:05:12] They're also setting themselves up for Yatoru to get
[01:05:15] whatever carry he wants, right?
[01:05:17] If he wants to be the big range guy to utilize the toss for the kills, he can.
[01:05:22] Or he can...
[01:05:23] Spirit have just set up a very clean draft, right?
[01:05:25] It's just strong lanes, the ability to play towards runes, because Centaur doesn't need help after 4 or 5 minutes.
[01:05:30] So you are going to have Tusk couldwink retaken to mid.
[01:05:33] If they find a carry that also can be left alone, you are going to be just seeing so much action on the map.
[01:05:38] So that is why Yandex, I think they need to mirror that.
[01:05:42] And I like the the underlawed pick for this reason, right?
[01:05:45] With the pick of play that Spirit has, Storm, Tusk couldwink roaming the map looking for the side lanes.
[01:05:50] Underlawed will always just fiends at the end, save whoever gets jumped.
[01:05:53] And then you can kind of also bring the supports towards mid with his laning efficiencies
[01:05:57] So I think both teams really are just respecting what either team has and the drafts to me
[01:06:02] They feel kind of even in it's more like who makes the first TP who has sets up the motions in the early game better
[01:06:08] And the rule on the pit is very good here. It's a touch
[01:06:12] It's the storm
[01:06:13] I don't know how much the hero changed right now because you don't have your splash damage anymore
[01:06:17] And so I guess you have to go back arcane boots instead of treads to farm
[01:06:21] You definitely won't farm as quickly as before, but the hero outside of it, it's still the same function, you know
[01:06:28] You probably are team with the global presence
[01:06:30] It's good setup with the jacquero
[01:06:32] It's gonna be the SDE
[01:06:33] Firestorm is also kind of bonkers, right?
[01:06:36] Like the shard used to do a lot of damage, and I see offline players not even try to buy it too early
[01:06:41] Because the facet meant you were right clicking, but now it's like we have what 15 more damage on firestorm at max level
[01:06:48] If you take the shard instantly on London or like you are going to be pumping out like
[01:06:52] Thousands of what you're ever done by you get you get our camp woods make and then you go the shot. Are you yeah?
[01:06:57] I would lean towards that you are playing on
[01:07:01] Firestorm and
[01:07:02] What I'm like what that mech item you it could be any item that's for the game to be tanky, right?
[01:07:07] If it's a crimson game you buy that if it's the neck game you buy that right?
[01:07:10] But I'd say in my head
[01:07:12] I I want to see that shard picked up and you just throw it on a voice for our beast and
[01:07:16] that the firestorm ring throughout the fight at the firestorm rain. Very nice. Very, very,
[01:07:23] very poetic. I like that bit of flavor here and Beastmaster is going to be the final pickup
[01:07:28] from team a young dex giving them a big old raw to play around and that big carry a beast.
[01:07:34] Oh, it's like the carry beast. I imagine it's not potentially now. Yeah, that's going
[01:07:39] to get reminded about the changes in the patch. Right. Of course, with the drinking
[01:07:42] Drinking buddies, right? Winter talking about it off camera, like the cast range, how nice
[01:07:46] it feels with the 1000. Are we going to see a world where Yandex, voice grip jumping with
[01:07:50] a kind of a single target style of initiation, east monster, single target roar? If Tusk steps
[01:07:56] up into this game, drinking buddies to noblesave every single time, Yandex's big kind of
[01:08:02] only way to kind of initiate a fight outside of Underwood Fruit is thwarted by one support.
[01:08:08] That is to be, maybe you have to keep note of that for if the game does progress.
[01:08:11] Yeah the route and the ice path for sure gonna be very annoying for the Toss
[01:08:15] I think before he gets BKB I imagine the Toss has to get BKB at some point
[01:08:20] There's so many things you want. There's a shot into BKB. I'm sure that you get the snowballs safe
[01:08:25] I have a lot of conditions.
[01:08:28] Alright, well.
[01:08:30] That was all. I was just saying there's a lot of conditions for the Toss to have to get through
[01:08:35] You pick the Toss early so it's kind of normal that you're gonna run into some counters in the game
[01:08:41] I kind of like what Yandex have overall here and as for Spirit
[01:08:45] They need to figure out a hero that can ideally do well in the lane
[01:08:50] I think Bam and Yvonne are against on the log you need to win the lane and
[01:08:53] Clings is kind of like I think the perfect hero for that. You don't really get affected by the Atrophy aura so much
[01:09:00] You can participate you can fight early
[01:09:02] And I wonder if the link, are they ever going to do like really like the tusks with the clings and the hook ring with
[01:09:09] Okay, they're actually doing that because I know that sometimes Panto plays the hook ring in some games
[01:09:15] No, this this felt like it needs to be tusked in the five position, right?
[01:09:18] Like utilize the tag team with like you found a ranged hero that can
[01:09:23] Still play out the entire game, right? Because let's say you picked other let's say weaker ranged heroes
[01:09:28] you all just you'll just disappear to be swaster right so clink's playing on the
[01:09:31] end biz playing on a kind of the fringe of the fight and that's really helpful and
[01:09:36] then yeah with the tusk you are going to get it if you if you miss that and I
[01:09:40] think Rue he's going to be you praised four positions showing their
[01:09:44] tentative teams earlier in the panel and to me this is what spirit needs
[01:09:47] right Rue has to kind of free himself from the opponent as early as possible
[01:09:51] rotate to help Lal on the room go through the twin game using the tusk
[01:09:55] and they think they get a couple kills on the underlord but I think Spirit is all about
[01:09:59] some of the early efficiencies for them to thrive in this game.
[01:10:02] Winter, wasn't it Jekiro and Void Spirit that Team Spirit struggled against or is that
[01:10:09] my misremembering?
[01:10:10] Yeah, mostly Jekiro.
[01:10:11] Spirit has always lost against Jekiro because they are a slower team.
[01:10:17] Jekiro can kind of cause a lot of problems because of the, like what I said, you win
[01:10:21] the lane then you take towers, it makes it difficult for them to farm, but this
[01:10:24] I don't particularly feel like their lineup is slow, they have a much faster lineup.
[01:10:29] I feel like Robson already mentioned that the hookwing can kind of run around, he can
[01:10:34] gait, he can help set up kills with the clings and the task, he can control runes, so I
[01:10:39] feel like Spirit can actually fight very well in the early game and Yandex is the one
[01:10:43] that might have to watch out for the hookwing rotations and the task.
[01:10:47] Alrighty, well the draft is set, the players are ready, our casters are itching to
[01:10:52] get into it.
[01:10:53] get started with game number one of Team Spirit versus Team Yandex here at ESL One Birmingham.
[01:11:01] Hello everybody, welcome. It is the first game of the playoffs. We are very happy to be here.
[01:11:08] Obviously on the new patch, a lot has changed. Some things maybe not as much as others, but
[01:11:14] it's going to be an interesting day, you know. These teams deserve their upper brackets spot.
[01:11:19] They didn't have to play like Tiberg's or anything. They steamrolled their way through
[01:11:22] groups and it's time to see who's come most prepared here today. How you doing Zach?
[01:11:29] I'm doing good I mean new patch Dota is always a great time everyone has a
[01:11:36] guess at what's good but you never really know and sometimes someone has
[01:11:42] found something that no one else has leads to a I don't know it's just a
[01:11:46] fun time you know especially after we were on a patch for a long time it's
[01:11:49] just like what is going on now good old level one oh I should pull them up to a
[01:11:58] high ground you make it away for that yeah I mean it's good chip damage I
[01:12:03] even need to get the kill you know but keeping the Beastmaster low at the
[01:12:08] beginning always quite nice yeah he's actually opting to walk home because
[01:12:14] that so might be a little late to lane set things up see them just walk past
[01:12:19] the creeps. That was one of the creep changes that went on. A lot of off-laners no longer
[01:12:22] bothering to do that. It cleans up the same treatment. So I have been desperately reading
[01:12:34] this patch, trying to read, like, getting an understanding of what's good, what's bad.
[01:12:38] I feel like everyone, like, is coming up with some interesting ideas and, like, oh,
[01:12:42] this stuff could work, this stuff, you know, might be good. I will say I like the changes
[01:12:46] avoid spirit. I think this is one of the few that I think it's not like a huge
[01:12:52] change but I do think just generally it's it's less gimmicky where he's just like
[01:12:57] getting tankiness for free and now it's like all right well you get more
[01:13:01] sustained and you get a little bit more damage which I kind of like him being
[01:13:05] built that way as opposed to like oh he can just he has like 3,000 health and
[01:13:10] tons of armor and magic resist right. Well the barrier is a little stronger so
[01:13:14] Maybe he's still got that tankiness in him. I've been seeing that barrier maxed out a lot of times
[01:13:21] Which at least a pretty tanky team actually like with him having that
[01:13:26] Then you've got an underlord down here. You're gonna have a Beastmaster carry
[01:13:30] It's definitely gonna be a fast pace from Yandex. I mean they're gonna start a little slow to get those items
[01:13:36] Probably like play behind the void spirit. Then once you got that I assume it's still the Beastmaster eggs when you're doing this carry
[01:13:42] That's what people were trying. I don't know if anyone discovered anything in the the scrims some cool new build
[01:13:49] But I imagine it'll still just be the eggs
[01:13:53] It is by the shard now that you didn't have to go for it. Yes, so the difference is that you have to kind of buy the shard
[01:14:01] I was looking into some of the numbers for Beastmaster
[01:14:04] like to see like how good the inner Beast changes because
[01:14:08] Previously it's not like part of the you just wouldn't level this
[01:14:11] until like later now it's the innate so he gets a little bit more attack speed in the lane but the spikes
[01:14:18] In attack speed that he gets in the mid game
[01:14:21] Are a lot less so there's kind of like that's the one thing I've been noticing in this patch is a lot of the power
[01:14:28] Scaling is a lot more linear as opposed to there being like very specific like
[01:14:32] spikes in in certain heroes where they're like oh, I have you know level three level four inter beast all of a sudden
[01:14:39] and now I can burst down a hero very quickly, um,
[01:14:43] or certainly get that bonus attack speed, you know, in the same way.
[01:14:47] Bottom lane, Kutoro trapped a great setup there from Sokka.
[01:14:51] That's the first one.
[01:14:52] Can they get the follow-up as the question?
[01:14:54] Ponto quite low, but, oh, yeah, the mess.
[01:14:58] The sacks from Shadow Demon, man, they still do so much damage.
[01:15:03] Yeah, you do not usually think of Underlord Shadow Demon as a killer lane combo,
[01:15:08] But that was sick and early points in Pit of Malice that we don't usually see to set that up
[01:15:15] Kill onto Yataro
[01:15:17] We did mention Yandex. They they're gonna want to play a little bit faster
[01:15:21] And I think that's what the point you were just saying the scaling of things coming online a little sooner
[01:15:25] It helps those types of linems right that want to play fast
[01:15:28] Yeah, then I want a little bit more attack speed now
[01:15:31] Rather than the the trade-off is that at like level 18 where some of these abilities used to scale like based on ultimates and stuff
[01:15:38] At that part it's a little weaker and then we'll eventually scale past that.
[01:15:42] But if you're playing faster and you're like, yeah, we're going at level 12,
[01:15:45] then you're happy to have a slightly stronger laning stage,
[01:15:48] a slightly stronger early game.
[01:15:49] And then possibly get some of these early kills on the clings as well.
[01:15:54] Which I'm interested in.
[01:15:55] Clings didn't actually get changed that much.
[01:15:58] Yeah, this game is effectively the same.
[01:16:00] If there was one hero who is the same, it's basically clings.
[01:16:03] It's basically clings, you know, like clings is basically the same hero from last match.
[01:16:07] Yeah, what I mentioned in though is Specialist Array became an item and then Hydra's Breath is a new upgrade to it.
[01:16:14] Clink's is maybe one of those heroes who could do it, because Specialist Array is like, what is a ranged hero that doesn't really want to build Maelstrom?
[01:16:22] And I think it's Clink's, except that he has to shard for his farming.
[01:16:26] I don't know if he actually needs the Specialist Array, but this is a pretty tanky lineup.
[01:16:30] Like maybe that Hydra's Breath, that stuff, boy, could be cool.
[01:16:33] It's just yeah, it's one of those things where you you might opt for the dragon lands
[01:16:38] You know after deso or something and then decide if you want like pike versus
[01:16:43] You know Hydra's breath original eventually. I feel like pike is pretty good. This game
[01:16:48] He might need to go that route. Maybe he'll grab just like a BKB instead
[01:16:52] We'll see but yeah, the the main idea. He's still a desolator hero
[01:16:57] We're just gonna deal for the same set up here on the bottom lane that just ruptured into the second pit of malice route
[01:17:02] Kanto now wants to damage stack up even a third bit of malice. Oh
[01:17:07] Socks the another kill goes his way topside stomp out from collapse trying to get the kill on to a malady in time
[01:17:14] They do a one-for-one trade over odds is Watson's pretty okay with this
[01:17:20] Takes down the off lane. I guess go back to lane got a juicy wave waiting for him
[01:17:26] Seems like he's cooking in his job done jacquero did get some early damage
[01:17:29] nerfs that the panel mentioned the mana cost on yeah liquid fire man a lot yeah
[01:17:36] really adds up when you use this payment for free and the twin terror again
[01:17:40] another one of those abilities so he's on the losing end of it this ability
[01:17:43] actually starts worse and then eventually scales past where that it used
[01:17:46] to be but that specifically hurts his leg in space are they doing it again
[01:17:52] there is a lot of things he can't get away from in this bottom line
[01:17:57] Yotaro does manage to squeak away into the trees, but between between like ice shards
[01:18:04] the like multiple different trees that were there the illusions he's having a rough time
[01:18:11] I'd also like to point out that he has no TP at the moment this is also a nerfed shadow demon the
[01:18:18] the menace stacks are not as strong I believe yeah they're not as strong quite yet until
[01:18:24] until you level up a little further and disseminate.
[01:18:27] He doesn't have the facet anymore
[01:18:28] that took off a chunk of the health.
[01:18:30] They're still making this work.
[01:18:31] I guess firestorm is a little stronger.
[01:18:33] Yeah.
[01:18:34] Underlord, but he doesn't have the same cleave.
[01:18:37] I don't know, I guess if you're hitting the here,
[01:18:39] the cleave maybe doesn't matter.
[01:18:42] Yeah, that was the piece I was gonna mention
[01:18:43] is like the, and like this,
[01:18:47] the base spells on Underlord did get kind of buff
[01:18:51] in compensation for the fact
[01:18:52] he essentially lost his facets, I think both of them, so they gotta make his spells a little
[01:18:59] bit better.
[01:19:00] Top-side, roar comes out from Wattson, that was quick.
[01:19:04] Lots of axe-tax built up from that one, and just as the 7 minute rune's gonna spawn
[01:19:08] we're gonna see the rotation come over from the Void Spirit as well, he's starting to
[01:19:11] pump one apple, does make it in time, and that's gonna be a dead hoodwink, so they
[01:19:16] managed to snipe two kills in the top lane, get the wisdom shrine for Wattson, secure
[01:19:20] their own as well. Yandex off to an absolute insane start as they might get the off lane tower as well.
[01:19:32] We're just gonna have to do something here. The last hits were all really close, but with this
[01:19:39] snowballing of kills now into the wisdom shrine, now into a tower, there's a 3k gold lead and
[01:19:45] Double Wisdom trying for Yondex. They're winning every lane and then you're gonna have to try to
[01:19:51] avoid them and play like pick offs, but you have a global hero in the Underlord, you have this
[01:19:56] void spirit to catch you. You have really fast pushing with this early game Beastmaster.
[01:20:02] I mean, Spirit's been in this position before, you know, classic, we got a whole
[01:20:05] to late game, that's where our strength is, but there's gonna be a tough one if the
[01:20:10] the pace keeps going this way. I mean, they try to make a play for the power room here.
[01:20:15] It spawns top is unfortunate for Laurel. He probably would have been able to get that one,
[01:20:19] but instead it's going to go to Chirijinir. It's only an illusion, so not the most impactful
[01:20:24] first power, or, you know, power room this early in the game, but let's see what he
[01:20:29] can get done with it. I want it. Okay. He's probably still going to do Spirit Vestal.
[01:20:37] But actually it'd be kinda cool.
[01:20:39] I don't think any of the supports are going for an urn either.
[01:20:42] I want to see the new, the essence distiller.
[01:20:44] Cause you can kinda skip some detection.
[01:20:47] You can use it to find a clink.
[01:20:49] I was like, I can find clinks, yeah.
[01:20:51] It's quite cool.
[01:20:54] Spirit Vessel probably makes a bit more sense.
[01:20:56] He's a universal hero.
[01:20:57] You won those, especially with his reworks on it.
[01:21:00] Yeah, but come on, do it for us.
[01:21:03] What's the new item, Chiro Junior?
[01:21:08] He has a new item.
[01:21:09] There's hope.
[01:21:10] This version of Void Spirit reminds me to Void Spirit on release, where he just had substantially
[01:21:16] more damage than every other hero.
[01:21:19] There are every other universal hero, mostly because his stat gain was insane, but if
[01:21:23] you look at him, he's at almost 90 base damage as a universal hero with very minimal
[01:21:29] stat items.
[01:21:31] He's having a great time just off the mark there seeing that Ward bottom
[01:21:34] So they'll have a good read on what's happening Kanto. Go look for socks with your good trap there with the shards
[01:21:41] They can't get vision perfectly placed on the outside of the tree to go for the disruption
[01:21:47] Now we'll see what they can grab
[01:21:49] Anything additional here Malady at vortex pulls him back in and a quick double kills those spirit that Ward paying dividends
[01:21:57] Yandex thought they were in the clear
[01:21:59] And much needed for Laurel too because you no longer get the galvanized stacks on leveling up your ultimate
[01:22:05] So you really gotta earn every galvanized stack at least has to to work with now no power room for either of them though
[01:22:11] Because it's gonna be top
[01:22:14] Laurel wants to zip over some more
[01:22:16] Yeah, he just keeps his like nah, we're not letting that happen
[01:22:23] Nice dodge there on Panto, but it's gonna be rough to get out of this one
[01:22:28] already building up those shadow poisons back does have storm spirit as well
[01:22:32] brew here nice bush black does connect as well
[01:22:35] stampede from collapse as they chase cheerleader goes up to the high ground
[01:22:39] they try to dodge that and dies instead
[01:22:44] alright spirit showing up when it matters given the little bit of a
[01:22:52] comeback here to themselves a bit disjointed from yondex which was
[01:22:58] necessary right now we don't want to see the first game just become an absolute
[01:23:01] snowball stomp so I'm glad C-Sphere get a couple kills on the board for
[01:23:06] themselves yandex still has a nice 2k gold lead I think with this they'll make
[01:23:11] sure they're in a little bit better shape to you know they're the one that
[01:23:15] starts with the underlord feels like yes this is a good fiends gate all
[01:23:19] joined in on this makes face to the Beastmaster has agged those last
[01:23:25] couple fights though it's like and support you know are we going to help here we're
[01:23:28] going to help there they're just like not quite together yet
[01:23:37] loaded dice I've heard loaded dice weighted dice I feel like I actually got
[01:23:41] a pretty good visual buff like people are not already liking this item and then
[01:23:48] it just gets the casual like maximum base damage by six which is pretty good
[01:23:54] Good. Like ends up being...
[01:23:58] Probably nice.
[01:24:01] Yeah, I think this brings it in line with the other damage already.
[01:24:05] I think it brings it in line with other tier 1s.
[01:24:07] Because if you think about what it would cost to buy 6 damage, it'd be like 400 gold.
[01:24:11] It's not fully 6 damage because it's still the roll, but I think that makes it comparable.
[01:24:21] Alright, so it cures the try and hold.
[01:24:23] much. Okay, we always get reyeling. Good amount of stuff. Yeah. Laurel, he's not having
[01:24:33] a terrible game, but obviously, Storm Spirit needs a little bit of time here to farm up.
[01:24:40] He needs to be able to get to this witchblade, and that should give him a lot more to
[01:24:44] play around collapse okay okay yeah we
[01:24:51] already have the agonim scepter online
[01:24:53] and what took four heroes on the enemy
[01:24:55] team to farm Watson will do by himself
[01:24:57] that's that's cool that's real cool
[01:25:01] still a beast master and still has
[01:25:05] access it got changed a little bit but
[01:25:07] you still throw them you get your eggs
[01:25:09] That's actually so sad.
[01:25:15] Goodbye, Rue.
[01:25:20] Is he fiends gated yet?
[01:25:35] You should have been quietly farming down here, right?
[01:25:39] Yeah, just been chilling.
[01:25:42] I remember seeing him go anywhere.
[01:25:44] I do think they have the Ags they were waiting for,
[01:25:47] and typically we see the Blink,
[01:25:49] and now I think you also need the Shard,
[01:25:51] so it's a little slower than it used to be.
[01:25:53] I mean, of course, you can get involved
[01:25:54] once you have the Blink, anyways.
[01:25:56] But Yandex is reaching that point
[01:25:58] that their draft is built for.
[01:26:02] And Clink's are still pretty far down there.
[01:26:04] I mean, it's like almost it's just about a 3000 gold difference between the carries which is pretty wild. I
[01:26:13] Mean part of it is just the lane right like Beastmaster out of a really oppressive lane
[01:26:18] But it the speed at which this hero farms
[01:26:22] I feel like it's faster than it's ever been
[01:26:25] Like right now is kind of when you start having points of your inner Beast aura, right?
[01:26:29] And you so you'd have a little bit more attack speed
[01:26:31] So like technically it's like the amount of attack speed has less than it was previous batch
[01:26:37] But it's the fact that getting to this point
[01:26:39] He has way more attack speed all the way through the lane through that first 10 15 minutes of the game
[01:26:45] And that might be why we're seeing Beast Masters have so much farm just
[01:26:51] at this point in the game
[01:26:53] Overall, Yannick's just massively out-farming Spirit across the map.
[01:27:00] They kind of like took a step back, right, from their early game.
[01:27:03] Yeah, they've just been able to farm really efficiently.
[01:27:07] I mean, we saw all the stacks they were doing.
[01:27:09] This is the benefit of having a Global Hero like Underlord.
[01:27:11] You can still play this large map pretty well.
[01:27:14] You kind of have that in the Centaur.
[01:27:16] It's just a little less effective.
[01:27:18] I'm happy to report we are going to get to see Essence Distiller.
[01:27:21] Sox is building one.
[01:27:22] Oh, sure. Junior will rely on his shards for the vision.
[01:27:26] Can't use it to scout wards anymore. I think that was fair.
[01:27:29] Yeah, that was too strong on the vision game.
[01:27:35] It was just way too value. Like, it provided so many different things.
[01:27:39] You could just, like, casually throw it, kill an entire creep camp,
[01:27:42] block off areas, randomly scout wards you weren't even looking for.
[01:27:46] Like, it just did way too much.
[01:27:48] So it was literally the farm room fighting and utility, oh top I found a very nice war
[01:27:55] kill.
[01:27:56] Very quick kill.
[01:27:57] I think that's the, I don't need, I think that was the blink reveal on Beastmaster.
[01:28:04] Yeah he, oh that's a lot of damage from Beastmaster.
[01:28:11] Okay, nice find from Laurel in the mid lane.
[01:28:17] She could be the only guy here.
[01:28:20] The question now, how much else are they going to be able to find on the side of Yandex?
[01:28:24] It's just going to be Panto, it seems.
[01:28:27] made for him keeps the storm spirit alive.
[01:28:47] He's past his deso. This is usually where we see them get charred. I was curious
[01:28:51] if he'd pivot but he's actually thinking about the
[01:28:54] Linkin's feels he needs it to just play this map at all. Otherwise, he's gonna get found too often by the Beastmaster
[01:29:02] I mean, it's a really good linkin's game right like in general it helps a ton
[01:29:07] We're gonna find us once again here in the bottom blade. It's so fast
[01:29:11] The amount of damage that Yandex has already on the table
[01:29:16] And Watson has already gotten started on the Roshan so
[01:29:20] Still typical Beastmaster stuff. I still haven't gotten used to Roche on being bottom.
[01:29:24] Every once in a while I'll see teams like, you see it in their movement, they'll like group up for a play
[01:29:29] and then they like start to move to the top pit and they're like, wait a minute.
[01:29:35] God, there's a nice bottom here too.
[01:29:37] They have the wards already set up and makes the Roche possible, but then you just use the same wards for Tormentor later.
[01:29:43] I think some of them should still be alive at that point.
[01:29:46] In the beginning of patches, things are so volatile, I feel like.
[01:29:53] It's hard to get a good read on the game, especially right now, with how much power scaling was
[01:29:58] adjusted for teams.
[01:29:59] They are going to look for the Storm Spirit off the Marvin Pinamales.
[01:30:05] Nice jump away there from Larl.
[01:30:06] He's going to be just fine.
[01:30:08] Clash still has his... a pipe to use if necessary, but with lots of them rotating
[01:30:14] in.
[01:30:15] to jump forward instead of looking for the hoodwink with the roar of the double dive bombs as well.
[01:30:19] Rue trying desperately to make his way through the trees.
[01:30:22] Gets a nice pushback onto two, but you're a junior with the chase.
[01:30:25] Remnant, not going to connect.
[01:30:27] Should eventually get this kill, but they'll make him work for it.
[01:30:33] Some of the teams are going to have to get used to is that Essence Distiller sharing vision.
[01:30:39] Soxia placed it so that when Laurel came out, he was affected by the Essence Distiller.
[01:30:42] He zips away. That's what that was.
[01:30:44] He actually showed where the centaur and the hoodwink were, so he ultimately gets away, but some of his teammates had to pay the price.
[01:30:52] I saw that little aura on the ground while I was disrupting him, like, what the heck is this?
[01:30:56] I could have really quite good an idea, but that's what the effect looks like. Interesting. Okay.
[01:31:04] It's kind of a neat idea, actually, for Shadow Demon specifically.
[01:31:07] Yeah, it's like that old, uh...
[01:31:09] He was a track talent or facet that he used to get the vision of the enemies
[01:31:14] I think once teams get used to that item again, they'll just like think of it like that and it'll be fine, but
[01:31:20] Now every game has it right? It's not just the bounty hunter
[01:31:26] Rest in peace bounty hunter
[01:31:30] Man he looks pretty rough
[01:31:33] But
[01:31:35] Yeah, we'll see. I mean, it'd be interesting to see if he's gonna pick them up again.
[01:31:39] Try and let them jump in here onto the Void spirits.
[01:31:42] No ball will connect in time with the Walrus Punch. They get them! Alright!
[01:31:46] Aren't Katerin already paying off here for Laurel?
[01:31:51] A little bit afraid to stick around for the tower, it would seem.
[01:31:53] There is gonna be a power in spawning in just a few seconds as Yandex coming in from the south.
[01:31:58] Smoked up with a wrap around here. Watson with a new BKB.
[01:32:01] They want Storm, it's good, let's get an ice path set up here onto Panto, it's not enough
[01:32:06] to find the kill yet, but a really nice flip-spot just rubs him into Keepsoxa alive as now Watson
[01:32:12] is going to look for the chase, hits the pit of mouse, there's the roar, they've got
[01:32:15] the Storm Spirit and the damage, definitely going to be there.
[01:32:19] Stampede not going to be able to get collapsed out of this one, four heroes surrounding
[01:32:24] him and that...
[01:32:27] It's looking rough for Spirit man.
[01:32:30] They are snowballing out of control here on Yandex.
[01:32:32] Now 9,000 ahead with plenty of time left on this Aegis.
[01:32:40] Yandex is finding exactly what they want.
[01:32:41] I mean, I guess they probably didn't want to lose
[01:32:42] cheer junior at the beginning of this,
[01:32:44] but the rest of Yandex was able to make it there
[01:32:48] with the smoke, find a pick-off.
[01:32:50] They even got to play it greedy, you know?
[01:32:51] They're not even roaring to save.
[01:32:53] They're like, wow.
[01:32:54] Catches.
[01:32:55] Okay.
[01:32:56] They want to grab.
[01:32:57] 30 stock.
[01:32:57] Was that the end?
[01:32:58] He's actually stuck?
[01:32:59] I think that was Essence Distiller again.
[01:33:02] I was wondering what sniped them, but yeah, it could have been.
[01:33:06] Lawson had to try the Aegis Slurklink skill.
[01:33:13] The thing is, these clinks were just not quite yet part of this, right?
[01:33:18] They tried to greet out on the tusk, so it takes a little longer.
[01:33:21] And it actually looked like he might be in a bit of trouble on the Beastmaster.
[01:33:25] But that's where the Shattered Demon still functions as this insane utility hero you can always help provide him to Dave.
[01:33:32] This is a pretty good angle for the Clinkz, but he is pretty under-farmed.
[01:33:37] He's top of the net worth for his team, but Clinkz is...
[01:33:41] Like, when Clinkz is good, it's because he's winning his lane, and he's too scary to deal with on his own.
[01:33:48] He tried to ignore him, but he's like running into his team, invis, you don't know when he's there, and then he just does a bunch of damage.
[01:33:53] but he was on the high ground, he had them all lined up,
[01:33:56] and still you just, you get to ignore him.
[01:34:03] Charge now for Shadow Demon.
[01:34:07] I really like the change to Tormentor.
[01:34:09] I think previously is a little bit too easy to kill.
[01:34:12] The reward was too high.
[01:34:13] Now you're not killing Tormentor with like a couple of heroes.
[01:34:18] It is a team effort,
[01:34:19] which I think is gonna make pubs even, you know,
[01:34:22] Maybe less less like that ever killed this thing.
[01:34:25] But I like that they put it more in your face, though, so that you
[01:34:28] like when it's in the corner, you just like blind your thoughts.
[01:34:30] Like I don't see a tormenter.
[01:34:31] There is no tormenter to do now.
[01:34:34] Every time you're walking around there, they're like, oh, yeah, you see me.
[01:34:37] I know you're ignoring me.
[01:34:38] I know, you know, I exist here.
[01:34:42] Speaking into your junior.
[01:34:44] I mean, they know that this is coming.
[01:34:45] The question is, can they actually find the chase?
[01:34:48] Watson's gonna come in with the roar and
[01:34:51] Feeds gate from notice drops the bit of malice the bill just holds spent our place it goes to the stampede but disruption held with doctor
[01:35:00] Know where to go
[01:35:07] Toros just trying to take advantage of the space being made find some farm cut some waves
[01:35:13] They're gonna try to find a smoke, but this is a really tanky underlord
[01:35:18] I don't know as you're getting this kill, Clink's is coming over, 3,000.
[01:35:24] With Storm and Clink it's doable, I think.
[01:35:27] You have to have both of them, it's gonna be a crimson guard coming out here in a moment.
[01:35:31] The damage is just enough before Soxa can make the TP.
[01:35:35] And now looking for that follow up kill, great ice bath and macro pyre Soxa, doing
[01:35:39] his best to heal through, they actually managed to burn through the touch.
[01:35:42] And they get the two, now it's time to leave.
[01:35:44] Chirijin, you're joining the fight. He'd be out successful from Laurel.
[01:35:50] Still a 2 for 2?
[01:35:52] I think...
[01:35:54] You're pretty okay with that.
[01:35:56] You get a little bit of scaling now for this Kling since Storm's here. You desperately need it.
[01:36:01] Yeah, they were able to jump him fast enough. The Crimson Guard only came out when he had the...
[01:36:06] Like, the final fifth of health, so, yeah.
[01:36:08] If he had managed to react with that sooner, I think he would have been way harder to kill.
[01:36:12] stocks it would have made it on time, saved them, everyone shows up, then that fight looks
[01:36:15] a lot worse for Spirit.
[01:36:17] There's still 10,000 down, so it's a mountain to climb still at this point, but some signs
[01:36:27] of life potentially.
[01:36:28] Beastmaster just finished Keebas, and that is going to be another very, very dead Censar
[01:36:35] here in the top lane.
[01:36:37] Sheepers is a cool pickup. You get a lot of armor now. I mean you always had armor. It's
[01:36:45] an even more armor than before. And constantly slows down the attack speed of enemies. I believe
[01:36:51] it pierces debuff immunity as one of the changes. Hold that thought. It's like looking pretty
[01:36:56] dead here. You don't even need to do it with his attacks, deep. Yeah.
[01:37:05] the thing with Void Spirit, I think it's a little bit deceptive is to try and realize
[01:37:10] how much more damage this hero is getting. It's quite a bit. Like these types of plays
[01:37:17] get punished a lot by Void Spirit now.
[01:37:28] He took greedy. I was like, did he actually take greedy? He legitimately did.
[01:37:32] Wow
[01:37:41] Yeah, the enchantments are I feel like we're gonna see a lot of greedy just in every game right?
[01:37:47] It's it's one of those things where it's like pretty much guaranteed for the support heroes, so
[01:37:52] Apparently it's guaranteed for the core here apparently for two years money's money
[01:37:56] I mean the damage he got in this patch you know offsets greedy essentially
[01:38:04] The economics of it are interesting you Toro maybe not the time to reveal yourself
[01:38:11] dude this underlord hit rotations every single time coming out the moment it's
[01:38:17] available it's who deaths like this back to back on your clink it's feeling rough
[01:38:22] because like who can actually show in the line we seem to manage to kill the
[01:38:25] Centaur with ease multiple times, Clink's now dying. Storm Spirit can also get caught,
[01:38:30] which there's perfect example of it. The bottom lane just from the Beastmaster. Stocks with
[01:38:35] a beautiful disruption to prevent Patsyle coming in with the save and now looking for the
[01:38:39] follow-up kill as well. God likes free for Watson. 10-0 on this Beastmaster. This is
[01:38:52] like the real when he first got the axe and he was broken that's the feeling you
[01:38:55] have right now yeah we're returning to with the the bore being stronger helping
[01:39:01] his lane I know they changed the way the game of jams when you have just this
[01:39:07] kind of game this feels just the same same broken old beast master I can't
[01:39:13] believe you called it before excuse me sorry raise it call it call it by his
[01:39:19] real name the Razorback. It's actually so funny that the tooltips also call it
[01:39:23] four and everything. Yeah, the Orc could pick up pretty sick, has also gone for one
[01:39:29] of my favorite neutral items that's back in the game. This thing is super cool.
[01:39:34] Just a bunch of extra damage being added into his kit, why not? Can't believe
[01:39:41] there's no greedy enchantment on it. If he could also get greedy, I mean,
[01:39:47] bonus attack speed and night vision from the alert. Very good.
[01:39:53] Now, Stormcrafter is thick. I think it was underrated for a long time when it was originally in the game
[01:39:59] and people started seeing how much damage it was actually doing.
[01:40:03] Something I'm interested to see here. Well, Yandex is pretty in the lead, so I don't know if you have to wait for this.
[01:40:08] But one of the game changes to the patch was that Catapult spawns 5 minutes later, which
[01:40:16] means it lines up with this second roach a lot more often.
[01:40:19] It was quite rare that the second roach would spawn, you get the banner, and then you get
[01:40:24] to work with two Catapults.
[01:40:26] This makes it easier to push the high ground, but when you're this far ahead you can just
[01:40:30] find kills like this, you know, then maybe you don't need to wait for that.
[01:40:33] We'll see how quickly team on Dex wants to to actually push instead. It's just a tough kill
[01:40:38] You know you probably want to a real core kill before you have forced high ground too hard
[01:40:42] You got two to two to work through but I do think it's something team should think about okay
[01:40:46] All right give you some power to work with he's at least getting bailed out by a rule
[01:40:51] They're gonna get the ages with this a really nice save from the hoodwink
[01:40:56] So I mean Watson he's you know, he's confident maybe a little too confident this time didn't have his team there
[01:41:03] back him up so that will burn your Aegis. It still has the skills right though.
[01:41:08] I thought they were on the way.
[01:41:13] They just used fiends gate to kill the tusk so Underlord couldn't join. I suppose
[01:41:19] he ought. Centaur was on his own but clearly with Yatoro there you can
[01:41:23] finally pick up another set of deso charges up to... great but making his way up.
[01:41:30] I want this game to go longer because he does have the Hydra's breath queued up on the cliff
[01:41:34] He's eventually getting down. I want to see this item in play
[01:41:38] Like and some from class here jitters master find a hoodwink on the other side stuck inside the McAfire
[01:41:43] But we'll jump away collapse with a lotus into the stampede trying to escape through a force half
[01:41:49] Everything being thrown to try and keep on heroes. They have a live nice disruption
[01:41:54] Comes through hoodwinks dead, but it's Watson on this beast master with that BKB
[01:41:59] running through this fight to try and secure anything collapsed his dying breath
[01:42:03] to take out the voice beard a nice play from him it will be a three for one set
[01:42:10] and done yandex are just too far ahead I was gonna say that was a pretty good
[01:42:16] fight for spirit all things considered the positioning was good they had so many
[01:42:19] different saves but yeah 12k down it's that's a lot to work against
[01:42:25] I smished this piece mask you see how far ahead he is
[01:42:29] It's like 12k down with all the underlord right the double pits of malice the the damage reduction from
[01:42:38] Atropiora like there's just so much that just him existing in this fight
[01:42:43] I don't even know if he had to pop the crimson guard. He probably did but
[01:42:49] Why not I bought it I paid for it gonna use it
[01:42:55] There is a time in this game where they get Lincoln Spears on more of the Spirit Cores
[01:43:02] and I think, like we mentioned earlier, it's a very good Lincoln's game.
[01:43:07] You've already got the Lotus on the Centaur, you've got one Lincoln's now on the Clinx.
[01:43:10] If your Storm Spear does manage to get to a Lincoln's, if he's building it then
[01:43:14] that could help quite a bit, but why is he on the line?
[01:43:20] For now he's got the Parasma into execute up.
[01:43:24] Yeah, he needs damage.
[01:43:26] Yeah, that's the thing.
[01:43:28] When you're behind, you know, sometimes it looks silly, like, where are the defensive
[01:43:32] items?
[01:43:33] Like, yeah, we'll live, but we won't kill them, especially this Underlord, this tanky
[01:43:36] lion.
[01:43:37] You know, it's like, you have to all in on Damage to have a shot at killing him
[01:43:39] and just take smart fights, and then you can go back for defensive items.
[01:43:44] The Dire scan actually doesn't connect to all of them, they just made it through
[01:43:48] the Twin Gate.
[01:43:49] Underlord has already cleared out that side of the map and is now walking through his base
[01:43:54] So they are not gonna connect with this smoke rotation to the top
[01:43:58] And with it Yandex actually might be coming through the twin gate. This can is there
[01:44:05] They'll just take tormentor first
[01:44:09] This one going to notice
[01:44:11] That one's pretty cool on the Beastmaster.
[01:44:16] It's so sick.
[01:44:17] Oh no, planks.
[01:44:19] Nice!
[01:44:20] Force that away!
[01:44:21] But they've got detection!
[01:44:22] Ready to go to the roar!
[01:44:23] Quickly cleans them up in Panto.
[01:44:25] Now stuck in a second pit of Malice and Jira Junior.
[01:44:30] Jumps on over, gets the kill.
[01:44:32] Two more dead on the side of Spirit.
[01:44:35] The movements have been so quick in Sokka.
[01:44:37] Well, he's found Rue as well, demonic purge, into the disruption,
[01:44:42] Red Mint out from Cheerleader, the Silences as well.
[01:44:45] Just blowing him up for the rest of the team to make the jump in is Waston Poshiba's Thrustman.
[01:44:50] The Silence onto Collapse.
[01:44:53] Dude, the Bloodthorn damage, dude. It is...
[01:44:59] I don't know what you can do on Spirit at this point because
[01:45:03] she did 3,000 damage to the Stuntar.
[01:45:06] I mean, at this point, this is where the Beastmaster has more attack speed than he used to, right?
[01:45:11] It has now scaled past the way around.
[01:45:15] Yeah, and now, excuse me, the Razorbacks, right?
[01:45:19] Those are stronger than ever to, thank you, to proc the Bloodthorn.
[01:45:27] I also think the BKB change helps.
[01:45:29] There's like more scaling value to it before, right?
[01:45:31] Where this Bloodthorn into the late game double BKB refreshers, you know?
[01:45:35] Yeah, I never know what am I relieving the value out of this.
[01:45:38] But now there's only the one, and Refresher doesn't work on items, so you can be a little bit more patient.
[01:45:44] And you're either forcing out that one BKB, or you're just waiting for the one BKB to expire, and then you get your Bloodthorn value.
[01:45:52] Chujri is also queued up a Sheva's Guard for himself, which...
[01:45:57] It's actually really good for this game in general, right, against the Clanks.
[01:46:01] There's no issue in having both.
[01:46:03] Oh, that actually hurts so bad.
[01:46:07] He doesn't have the money, but he's close enough that he could buy it soon.
[01:46:16] Did you see Malty on the way?
[01:46:17] He's like, I gotta get out of here.
[01:46:19] That Jekiro?
[01:46:20] He's gonna get me.
[01:46:27] They have some like decent war to play pop from when they made that smoke rotation.
[01:46:32] All this really is is kind of safe area for your Torah to try and farm
[01:46:38] Yeah, I think this is part of why he got the Lincoln's as well, right?
[01:46:41] You want to be able to make these plays without worried about
[01:46:44] Being caught at least force the enemies to rotate a bunch of heroes use the fiends gate to get him
[01:46:48] But there's hopefully still chance he gets away to play this way
[01:46:54] You know, like scans the triangle is like nice. I'll be able to farm here, but it's already gone
[01:46:59] I'll wait that's okay
[01:47:02] the most to be. This is also back to the economics change right? They took away the
[01:47:06] ancient camp. They're always in here. They're always somewhere and they found them. The gem
[01:47:13] doing the job. Dude, it is so difficult to play the map on Spirit right now. And Cheer
[01:47:23] Juniors gonna find the tusk as well. Remnant. It does come through snowball to buy him
[01:47:27] a little bit of time. But there's your Bloodthorn Beastmaster blinks on over. A little
[01:47:31] bit of a from the croaker grief but I can't believe they took away the
[01:47:38] change done they should have left it that's the funniest shit ever
[01:47:42] whole team fight gets grief collapsed now he's trying to use stamp he's not
[01:47:46] gonna save him in the end now maybe we'll actually they used all the
[01:47:49] stuff okay okay I stand corrected he gets laid and actually they might get
[01:47:53] spotted here very nice turn around if Laurel could finish this kill it'd be
[01:47:57] absolutely huge he just used to get out though commit the bkb and run ruse
[01:48:02] hiding in the trees here trying to get away from these heroes violent stuff
[01:48:07] remnant misses but they have enough damage
[01:48:14] it's I mean every play you make comes at a cost and it seems that the cost is
[01:48:21] getting greater and greater as this game goes on yondex has been really good
[01:48:27] about playing the map for the most part.
[01:48:29] I think there was a couple slip-ups,
[01:48:31] but they've otherwise been very fast moving around.
[01:48:34] It also helps that due to the change
[01:48:37] of where the ancient camps were, right?
[01:48:38] Like the one below the safe lane tier one towers
[01:48:41] got taken out.
[01:48:42] And then one of the river camps
[01:48:44] below the tier two safe lane tower
[01:48:47] got moved above the tower.
[01:48:49] So now if you're holding that middle chunk of the map,
[01:48:52] which is essentially what Yandex has been doing
[01:48:54] for a lot of this game,
[01:48:56] you have control of four different ancient camps if you're just holding the center.
[01:49:00] And so then that's why the Klinks, he's like trying to play the edge,
[01:49:02] but he's just not getting as much gold. And you see that in this net worth graph.
[01:49:07] Of course, some of it is the objectives and kills, but
[01:49:09] playing that sneaky style is not as rewarding. And he tries to go to the middle of the map
[01:49:14] to get the ancients to get the more high value farm. They're there, you know, they're
[01:49:19] like, that's actually my high value farm. What are you doing here, Klinks?
[01:49:22] I actually liked that change a lot. It felt weird that if you were losing you just kind of like sit on the edge of the map and
[01:49:31] you're farming like
[01:49:33] Arguably the most valuable section of the map outside of the triangle. So
[01:49:38] It seems it seems like a decent change
[01:49:41] Reward the teams that actually have the majority of the map control
[01:49:44] It should theoretically lead to faster games, too, right because you get these like larger leads
[01:49:49] It's like we have Yandex right now setting a 22,000 gold advantage.
[01:49:53] I have to imagine that the second that Roche is up, it's Roche in the high ground.
[01:49:58] There's not much else they really need to wait for.
[01:50:01] Yeah, I the I think they wanted to push sooner.
[01:50:05] I think losing the second Roche as quickly as they did is what cost them
[01:50:09] to slow down a little bit here.
[01:50:11] But yeah, third Roche right around the corner.
[01:50:15] I think it'll be a little safer with it, you know, this time around.
[01:50:18] And they'll have another banner to work with this one's got longer range. They'll have they still have the last one. I
[01:50:25] Believe so. I don't think they used anywhere. Yeah
[01:50:29] Jikiro's holding on to it place to why not?
[01:50:34] What if the banners protected each other the ultimate strategy
[01:50:41] Okay, maybe three you need three banners, okay, so that way it's like a trade-off
[01:50:45] It's like I use it for earlier push or I commit to saving this for the late game
[01:50:52] Untouchable banners can't wait until every game goes 60 minutes
[01:50:58] Just for the third banners we are no yeah, it's true. It's not much different from last patch
[01:51:04] Yotaro is playing the scariest game of cat and mouse ever.
[01:51:15] He's got to though, right?
[01:51:17] If you let Yondex push him to your half of the map, it'll be even worse, right?
[01:51:22] This 22k is already rough, but it would have been worse if not for the constant split
[01:51:27] pushing, trying to cut waves, drag them back to their half of their map to kill you.
[01:51:32] If you just played scared, this game would already be done.
[01:51:34] So you have to play these very scary games of Cat and Mouse, like you said.
[01:51:43] Neon Decks, although they've been in control for a lot of this game, I do think losing that second Aegis slowed them down a bit.
[01:51:49] And this third Aegis is still, you know, okay, still feeling pretty good.
[01:51:52] If you mess up this third Aegis, I think that's where you start sweating a lot.
[01:51:56] You're like, ooh, late game teams fear it.
[01:51:58] You know, we've let them, you know, get some items here.
[01:52:03] There's only so much you can scale, right?
[01:52:06] Beastmaster's slotted out.
[01:52:07] I mean, he's pretty much done scaling.
[01:52:12] I thought they might, like, go for, like, a Storm DKB
[01:52:15] to steal the Aegis, but it was just a tusk.
[01:52:18] Blank's in.
[01:52:18] Instantly gets stunned in the ice path and dies.
[01:52:21] And, uh, well, you lost.
[01:52:24] Yatoro is well.
[01:52:25] the top lane he was getting chased down for quite some time it like sometimes like
[01:52:34] all right we'll trade ages for you know this one good thing on the other side of
[01:52:39] the map right and you didn't even like that didn't happen and instead it cost you
[01:52:44] your carry it's you're just so far behind like I don't really know what the
[01:52:49] avenue back into this game is like maybe it's a surprise agonist up there
[01:52:53] from the storm spirit a surprise eggs from the centaur which are there they
[01:52:56] have them available and maybe they bait yandex in a little bit too far but with
[01:53:03] the amount of sustain and just the massive gold lead that they have it may
[01:53:09] not end up mattering so we'll see spirit have a very difficult high ground
[01:53:14] hold ahead of them
[01:53:17] I want to commit the banner yet.
[01:53:21] I thought this was a good time for it because Clink's is still dead.
[01:53:28] Now he has his anemons ready, has the refresher shard in his backpack.
[01:53:34] I think we'll see this more now that it doesn't refresh the items.
[01:53:38] Supports with strong abilities will actually be given the refresher shard a bit more
[01:53:42] often.
[01:53:43] Alright, they open up the mid lane of Rax, they're probably just going to go for the tier
[01:53:48] 2 in the top lane to give themselves access to all three.
[01:53:54] Not really waiting for anything major at this point.
[01:54:00] Naira's scan does connect, so they actually have a pretty good read on where a spirit
[01:54:03] might be set up.
[01:54:07] I just don't really force the spirit looking to take the fight outside of their base,
[01:54:11] right?
[01:54:12] If you can surprise him and you maybe get the numbers fight, you do it.
[01:54:17] I will say delaying the push a little bit, Tusk has gone his DKB.
[01:54:21] Maybe that's part of the app, you know?
[01:54:24] You can overcommit and Tusk is actually able to get the saves now that he has this item.
[01:54:31] We'll see.
[01:54:32] You know, it's a tall ask at this point.
[01:54:37] Heading into bottom, smoking to the bottom lane, see if they can find anybody farming
[01:54:42] For now, they're pretty much all in the base, the blink, the roar comes out, there's the
[01:54:47] cart out from collapse, you uh, Lotus back should get him some base 12 pounds over the
[01:54:51] BKB, a lot of damage coming in from the clink, but it's not up to finish anyone quite yet,
[01:54:56] he's actually stuck inside of the macro pyre, burning to death.
[01:55:00] Well gets them space, but with everything committed out of this fight of spirit, see
[01:55:09] See if they can just safely retreat.
[01:55:13] You manage to get one hero, right?
[01:55:15] You take down the Shadow Demon, but I don't know if that's enough.
[01:55:25] They're going to smoke, OK.
[01:55:28] I mean, I think that fight showed they have the damage
[01:55:31] to get the kills if it's in a good spot.
[01:55:33] And they're hoping Team Yandex is like, oh, we back off.
[01:55:36] We chill.
[01:55:36] We split up, right?
[01:55:37] You're hoping to get a pick off here.
[01:55:39] You need something like that when you're this far behind, but...
[01:55:44] Team Yandex knows they're sticking around near the outpost where if you had to, worst case, buy back Street TP in.
[01:55:51] Now he'll just respawn naturally, he'll TP in. They still have a bit of time on the Aegis left to...
[01:55:57] I still push top if they want to.
[01:56:00] Maybe they will also back out till they find their own pick-off.
[01:56:05] It is usually safe practice for pushing high ground especially now that we've got BKB snowball safe. We've got the
[01:56:13] Workhorse save possible
[01:56:16] All right real I think that's the refresher change coming in to right in the past beast master
[01:56:21] We just have that refresher shard and just have the initial roar. Oh, he gets saved
[01:56:26] Refresher pick another target kill that target and then you win that fight you end the game right at that moment
[01:56:32] Yeah, I actually really like to change the refresher. I'm kind of glad there's no more of this double BKB shenanigans
[01:56:40] That I mean they they make it so BKB's based like lowest duration now is a little bit better, but
[01:56:48] Overall I think a good change
[01:56:50] I was gonna say real talk as this game goes on if Yandex don't end this game soon
[01:56:57] We just hit level 25 of the storm spirit. He does have his agonim scepter
[01:57:02] There is some serious damage this hero is going to be doing in the fight.
[01:57:06] And during all of that, there is a carry Clinkz, which is, in my opinion, probably the best-scaling hero currently.
[01:57:15] Not in all of Dota, I think in this game, in this series, this match, the Clinkz does scale very well.
[01:57:21] So if they manage to stall this one out for longer on Spirit, I think there is a timeframe where this gold advantage maybe stops mattering as much.
[01:57:31] That thing said, Yotaro, it's...
[01:57:33] Nooo...
[01:57:35] Okay, well, I'm sorry for bringing your name into this, Yotaro. My bad, buddy.
[01:57:40] Yo.
[01:57:41] Versus too powerful.
[01:57:43] Sometimes you just say it, you say the name once.
[01:57:47] And he dies.
[01:57:49] You are right though, right? He is the, uh, the best scaling hero in this game.
[01:57:53] At least from what we used to know.
[01:57:55] I guess this new Beastmaster with the...
[01:57:58] Increased attack speed, this Bloodthorn build. Maybe it scales better than what we're used to.
[01:58:03] I have a hard time imagining it's more than a typical carry.
[01:58:09] So if you can get there, yeah, the Clinks will maybe carry this.
[01:58:14] He's close to that Hydra's breath, maybe that extra % HP. I mean, it's a lot at this point.
[01:58:19] I have Beastmaster's 3000 Health, Underlord's 4000, Void Spirit's 3000. If he can actually get there,
[01:58:26] maybe that's it but here's the banner committed with the catapult he lost one
[01:58:32] first but one's good enough the razor backs getting to work as well
[01:58:38] the AoE on that banner is doing some serious work right now so they'll get
[01:58:45] the tier three pretty much uncontested spirit really need to wait for their
[01:58:48] clink to get back into the game but a pinnall's gonna chip them as they
[01:58:54] Try to find an opening hoodwink would be a great kill, but don't want to over-commit quite yet
[01:58:59] Oh all goes in gets caught for the moment collapsed here by pops the Lotus
[01:59:04] Nice vortex onto to the damage coming in quite a bit, but a nice save there from the shadow demon
[01:59:09] That being said the clicks ripping through notice here, and they finish the job they do
[01:59:16] Everybody's still alive for now as long as we're gonna go in gets caught pops the BKB
[01:59:20] He still has it!
[01:59:21] Nice catch on the both supports.
[01:59:23] Socks are falling low.
[01:59:24] Big heals though, and from the Lotus,
[01:59:26] as Watson's now caught out of position.
[01:59:28] It's gonna be Tierra going in,
[01:59:30] trying to make space for him in this fight.
[01:59:32] Another pit coming through from the agatoms of that Underlord.
[01:59:36] Trying to rejoin the fight as Watson's incredibly low
[01:59:38] with the buyback coming in from this floor.
[01:59:39] Trying to find him, but he can't do it.
[01:59:41] Instead, looking for the Shadow Demon,
[01:59:43] and Spirit of Held.
[01:59:46] It's a costly old two lanes of racks.
[01:59:50] Two buybacks.
[01:59:52] Two gems though.
[01:59:53] Yeah.
[01:59:54] And then you're not out.
[01:59:55] You're down but not out.
[01:59:57] That's how they've been killing Clink.
[01:59:58] That everybody had a gem.
[02:00:00] You know, there's multiple gems.
[02:00:02] There's this essence distiller.
[02:00:04] Every time he's trying to get away
[02:00:05] through some sneaky path,
[02:00:06] they're finding him.
[02:00:08] Perhaps he can now cut the ways
[02:00:10] enough to continue to delay.
[02:00:15] With so many buybacks to use.
[02:00:16] So who, Indiana, who?
[02:00:19] Who was everybody?
[02:00:20] It was Underlord, Storm, and Tusk.
[02:00:23] Yeah.
[02:00:24] I mean, if you find the Storm, then you're probably just done.
[02:00:29] Lara was key to holding on, air quotes,
[02:00:33] holding on there, you know,
[02:00:35] to be able to find some of these kills.
[02:00:38] Or these loaders, or double catch.
[02:00:40] The Lotus has done so much work.
[02:00:43] Collapse is just great by, I mean,
[02:00:46] physically carrying the Storms here right now,
[02:00:48] But in terms of giving the Storespirit so much space in this fight, they just felled in twice, allowing him to have such a late DKB here.
[02:01:01] Great news off of this fight, Yatoro. Very close to Hydra's breath. Percent HP damage about to enter into the game.
[02:01:11] And if they get Watson there, if Thor's spirit off that buyback gets Watson, that's suddenly...
[02:01:18] I mean he ended up with 1700 gold and he would have had like 2500 gold gained from
[02:01:24] that fight.
[02:01:25] He is going to be very scary.
[02:01:27] I thought Hydropath was so close.
[02:01:37] That's a risky move to finish it, but it works.
[02:01:40] Gatoro's gonna have it now completed.
[02:01:42] Washington goes to get to the war.
[02:01:44] This violence right in the center!
[02:01:45] Can he get the card at the last second?
[02:01:47] He does.
[02:01:48] He needs to get Laurel to safety.
[02:01:52] Oh, that was so close.
[02:01:55] A really quick and smart attempt from Yandex.
[02:01:59] But with Thor's spirit still alive,
[02:02:01] Kolas is gonna go and look for this top,
[02:02:03] gets himself kinda low, pops the Lotus,
[02:02:04] but a big vortex onto Thor!
[02:02:06] The damage from the clicks right again.
[02:02:08] They managed to take down one
[02:02:09] The T-Rex you're stuck on the wrong side of the gate needs a little bit of help a little bit of time to get away
[02:02:14] Disfimulate gives him the space he needs, but they want to chase and look for more
[02:02:20] Can they do so Yandex?
[02:02:23] Struggling to get this last lane of rats
[02:02:28] For almost 25 on clings as well
[02:02:33] Combo is so scary the the vortex grabbing everybody into the clings's damage
[02:02:39] Yeah, it's terrifying. Especially now that he has a specialist of Ray plus a Hydra. Like that's adding even more AoE now
[02:02:49] Curious if we'll get the searing multi-shot too. The
[02:02:54] Refresher for
[02:02:56] Underlord is interesting. We don't really see this that often. I can't even remember the last time I've seen a refresher underlord, but
[02:03:04] It's a lot of pit analysis
[02:03:06] Yeah, the pit has been really strong
[02:03:09] And as their BKB's get used up, right, that just makes this hit even more value.
[02:03:15] Can they actually use both of the legs?
[02:03:17] Oh no, the scan connects.
[02:03:18] They know that this is happening.
[02:03:20] It's dying so fast, but will they know the pick comes out?
[02:03:23] They run in the Aegis.
[02:03:24] Who has it?
[02:03:25] It's on a cheery gun!
[02:03:26] Oh no!
[02:03:27] A disaster for Spirit!
[02:03:28] They need to get out of this pit, but they can't!
[02:03:30] You've lost planks!
[02:03:31] You've lost the last!
[02:03:32] It's all on tomorrow!
[02:03:33] Can he kill all of them themselves?
[02:03:34] He's taking down Beastmaster, looking for Charger to reclaim the Aegis, now
[02:03:37] Turn their attention to socks of hanto offering a lot of damage here as well, but there is that ice path macro fire
[02:03:46] Burning to death they can't escape for dead on spirit
[02:03:52] No buyback left. You got the beast master, but the cost is so heavy
[02:03:59] Oh man that is such a close. Oh he's frustrated with that. I mean it's so close right? They've been holding on so long they could feel that that was the moment to come back but at the final moment Yandex leading us up. They're a little nervous about this game. They're going to complete the Megas just in case.
[02:04:19] But there are in fact no buybacks and they will soon discover that.
[02:04:25] That'll be game one outside of some miraculous whole Call of the Fountain.
[02:04:33] The Call of the Fountain is quite, quite powerful, but the Call of Ending the Game, it looks
[02:04:39] like that one even more powerful, Yandex will clean it up, they take game one here.
[02:04:46] A very fun first game of the playoffs.
[02:04:48] Spirit, they held for a while, they almost made the comeback, but just some clutch plays
[02:04:55] around the roach pit.
[02:04:57] That Aghanim, Scepter, Makro, Pyre, just doing a ton of damage.
[02:05:01] Spirit, well, let's see if they can come back in the second game.
[02:05:05] We'll have to see.
[02:05:06] But yeah, what an incredible performance from Yandex in this one.
[02:05:09] Yeah, I mean, I think it's Malady that popularized this, like, Aghanim, Shakiro
[02:05:15] as far as I know, and shows exactly why, right?
[02:05:18] when you have so much control,
[02:05:19] possibly going back to why the Underlord
[02:05:21] wanted so many different pits,
[02:05:22] helps set up these macro fires.
[02:05:24] I think Yondex, over the course of this game,
[02:05:27] played really well, they played the map well,
[02:05:28] that's what limited Spirit,
[02:05:30] Spirit knew, like, yeah, we gotta creep them,
[02:05:31] we gotta avoid, but Yondex was on top of it.
[02:05:34] It was in that second ages
[02:05:36] where they lost it a little bit too soon,
[02:05:37] I think that was probably their biggest flip up,
[02:05:40] but credit to them, they didn't let that tilt them out,
[02:05:43] even though they sort of knew they were on the clock,
[02:05:46] I think, again, kind of a little confused on the new scaling of this Beastmaster,
[02:05:49] so maybe they didn't feel that much pressure compared to previous patches.
[02:05:55] Yeah, you never really know, right?
[02:05:57] Like, we're all still trying to figure out the new patch.
[02:05:59] It's hard to tell which teams have the best reads,
[02:06:01] but in the game, at least, Yandex, a very clean draft,
[02:06:05] very good performance from the whole team.
[02:06:08] And, yeah, kind of be pretty happy.
[02:06:11] As we finish this one-up game one, we'll go ahead and send it back to our panel.
[02:06:14] Kind of talk a little bit more about this game
[02:06:19] Thank you very much. Yes indeed it is the undead speaking game number one here
[02:06:25] Convincingly, but I mean it also went on a hell of a long time
[02:06:29] I mean went to why did this game go on such a long time when Watson was so unstoppable through the whole thing
[02:06:35] I was kind of difficult to just shove off the high ground and just push it and the game
[02:06:39] I think they are just doing the right thing just increasing their chances of winning the game without having
[02:06:43] and they risked of throwing, they were taking Roshan, they were farming the whole map, they
[02:06:47] were just farming everything in our spirit, they were kind of stuck, they were only hoping
[02:06:51] to get some pickups with the storm, and I think that was basically it, the game was
[02:06:56] kind of over after, I would say like about 10, 12 minutes, I think the early game just
[02:07:01] kind of gave the index such a huge lead, and there was not much spirit could have
[02:07:05] done after that.
[02:07:07] Yeah, I think you're right, it was a horrible laning phase, they never really recovered,
[02:07:12] was this the victory based on
[02:07:17] patch understanding or was there
[02:07:18] something else that play.
[02:07:20] Lean. I mean, patch
[02:07:21] understanding both teams are
[02:07:22] kind of drafting like it was
[02:07:24] the previous patch, right? Like
[02:07:25] that. They weren't really trying
[02:07:26] to go too crazy in the 7.41
[02:07:28] shenanigans, but they just
[02:07:30] they just knew what to do in
[02:07:31] the lanes better from Yandex.
[02:07:33] They just set themselves up a lot
[02:07:35] cleaner. They just just played
[02:07:37] a really, really good game. There
[02:07:39] was no kind of like extra
[02:07:40] see them at all, right? For Yatoro, right? We just saw the stat line from the scoreboard.
[02:07:43] 0-10-8. That was the last time he had zero kills in the game, like a month ago, when
[02:07:47] they got completely shut out from a game against game of League in Dream League. You don't see
[02:07:51] Yatoro have zero kills in a Dota game too often. Like the fact that it's a month,
[02:07:56] so yeah, just a complete shutout from Yandex from the lanes like Winter was mentioning.
[02:08:00] Yeah, this looked like a different spirit. Not the spirit we've been seeing go undefeated
[02:08:04] for the last couple of days in the group stage, but Yandex just completely getting
[02:08:08] the better of them. I mean, you know, is there hope for us very in game two winter? You know,
[02:08:13] is this just sort of something which they can bounce back from pretty easily?
[02:08:16] Yeah, for sure. That's going to be hope. I think this is one of those games that sometimes
[02:08:20] you you play the lane kind of really, really loosely. You make a couple of mistakes.
[02:08:24] I think it all started from the death in the bot lane. I think the task made a mistake
[02:08:29] and then both him and Yatoro went down. I feel like that kind of snowball the game
[02:08:34] so much to the point where they couldn't get rune, Storm was like losing. His first rune
[02:08:38] was at 18 minutes, I'm pretty sure. Like he didn't get a single rune before that. And
[02:08:43] how are you supposed to play that game if your Storm has no runes at all?
[02:08:46] Alright, well, TGEM, I believe you have a highlight to show for us. So show us what
[02:08:52] you're working with.
[02:08:53] No, we're just going to show exactly what WTW is going to do.
[02:08:56] We're going to show it again, right?
[02:08:58] Suxar is one of the best shadow teams in the entire world, right? And then
[02:09:01] and when you have the underlord, it's like disrupt, into Firestorm, into Pit, you've got all that pressure Panto on his Tusk, he had Shards, he had Tag Team, he wasn't actually able to kind of manipulate the positioning in any way to save him, so yeah, I think for Yandex, they just know how to utilize SD really well, so they get the double kill very early on in the lane, they get it again, a little bit of an overlap right with the disrupt and the Firestorm, but it doesn't really matter, they are just doing, as they always do, just find the kill, so, when you have a Tusk and Clink, I think you're going to be able to do that, so yeah, I think you're going to be able to do that, so yeah, I think you're going to be able to do that, so yeah, I think you're going to be able to do that, so yeah, I think you're going to be able to do that, so yeah,
[02:09:31] anticipating a much better lane for spirit but it just went to absolute you know shambles so so quickly
[02:09:39] and then when you look at that the Toro he's meant to get killed he meant to enter the game he never
[02:09:43] entered the game we've already shown you a stat line you compare that to Watson he was having a
[02:09:47] completely free game on the Beastmaster 21-116 last hits through the roof GPM through the roof
[02:09:53] I mean I don't know maybe it's too early to say but please please please can I see enough
[02:09:59] the Beastmaster. I don't want to, I don't, like, agonims is just like, I've always been a bit old
[02:10:05] school when it comes to Beastmaster. I've loved the concept of the zoo, you know, bring the
[02:10:09] Helmethon, bring the animals, you know, not just the players, but the jungle to the game, right?
[02:10:13] But, Aggs has always been a bit too under, like, it's too much of an identity shift for me,
[02:10:20] and like, cool, we had our fun with it for a couple years. I was hoping in 7.41 that Aggs
[02:10:24] would just get like an absolute band hammer, maybe a rework, whatever. But yeah, in this
[02:10:28] this iteration with the changes
[02:10:32] the buff to access. It's still
[02:10:33] the same thing. It's an
[02:10:34] absolute menace. This is my
[02:10:36] official plea. Can we get rid of
[02:10:38] out of this master, please? If
[02:10:40] you are listening, get rid of
[02:10:41] it. Actually, winter almost
[02:10:43] feels like the beast musters
[02:10:44] maybe even better as a carry
[02:10:46] now with the scaling the all
[02:10:48] the way up until 30 on the
[02:10:50] passive on the innate and
[02:10:51] then, of course, the new
[02:10:53] shard as well, which increases
[02:10:55] the damage through the right
[02:10:56] carry Beastmaster.
[02:10:58] Not to mention the lane. I think he's just a straight up stronger laner with the changes.
[02:11:03] As you can see in this game, how much he dominated in the lanes.
[02:11:06] Because how important it is to start off the games well, then you can control the shrines, everything.
[02:11:12] Beast just feels like a much better hero.
[02:11:15] Initially, I thought the nerfs were kind of...
[02:11:17] Maybe it's a nerf initially, when I saw the Beastmaster changes,
[02:11:20] but after watching this game, I felt like I'm with TI right there.
[02:11:24] This hero is just still so strong
[02:11:27] So good and yandex making it look absolutely broken
[02:11:31] Void off to a break together. You got any other heroes to highlight on yandex who played particularly well?
[02:11:35] Oh, I mean we could throw in a little jikiro. All right. Oh 20 mana. That's not enough valve
[02:11:41] 20 mana on a guy who spits fire and what melody laugh the jikiro is wearing wizards hat
[02:11:48] That's not enough. All right. So yeah beast. We want real nerfs on the beast boss
[02:11:51] We want real nerves on the jacquero get to work. I want to let a patch back
[02:11:57] Goodness me. Okay. Alrighty. Well, that's gonna do it the game number one yandex
[02:12:01] Absolutely handling spirit in the opening match. It can spirit come back. We're gonna find out after this short break
[02:13:21] I can't wait for the world to come
[02:13:23] Starting over, starting over, starting over
[02:13:28] Time for me to
[02:13:32] Starting over, starting over, starting over
[02:13:37] Time for me to
[02:15:51] Time will be real soon
[02:16:21] I don't know where I'm going
[02:16:32] But I know I won't get there
[02:16:40] A fun piece in the wind
[02:16:52] The journey goes to hell
[02:16:58] You try to guide until I'm leaving
[02:17:02] I'm on the way, it's just a moment
[02:17:06] Fly on night until I'm leaving
[02:17:10] In sweet blood, I'll be a murderer
[02:17:15] For the love of love, for the love of love, for the love of love
[02:17:22] He keeps running, for he keeps running
[02:17:28] For the love of love, of love, of love
[02:17:31] Of vagrants and discontents
[02:18:06] All right, it's just a round of bad
[02:18:09] Try hard, right?
[02:18:11] Until I'm really in
[02:18:13] These street lights got me further
[02:18:17] Through the water, through the water
[02:18:21] Through the rain, through the world
[02:18:25] It keeps burning
[02:18:28] Oh, it keeps burning
[02:18:31] I don't know where I'm going
[02:18:41] But it's been a big dream
[02:18:46] I'll keep on walking all night
[02:18:49] I'll keep on walking all night
[02:18:52] I'll keep on walking all night
[02:18:54] I'll just keep on walking
[02:18:56] I'll keep on walking
[02:18:58] Do you want to live in these sweet lives?
[02:19:02] I'm in front of the world
[02:19:05] Don't wander, no, don't wander
[02:19:09] Don't wander, no
[02:19:13] You keep smiling
[02:19:15] Oh, you keep smiling
[02:19:19] Oh
[02:19:28] I know I'm losing on all the other boys, one G2, old jeans and those eyes, living a child
[02:19:57] I'm praying on your side
[02:19:59] I'll be in the cage you hide
[02:20:02] Baby, can we dance?
[02:20:04] Can I be there with you from birth?
[02:20:12] Asking for a chance, baby
[02:20:14] After the party, come on over
[02:20:19] Come on, come on, come on, come on
[02:20:22] Keep me, keep me alive
[02:20:25] Make me take a lie
[02:20:30] Make me take a lie
[02:20:35] Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
[02:20:40] Make you retirees, can I leave here with you?
[02:20:45] I'm good
[02:20:47] Don't burn me
[02:20:50] Asking for a grant to be a
[02:20:53] Welcome back as we get into this series, Team Spirit vs Yandex and Yandex are currently
[02:21:17] one game up off the back of a terrifying Watson Beast master absolutely just
[02:21:22] throwing game number one and also a group effort to completely shut down the
[02:21:28] Yatoro clinked for Yatoro to be able to play that first game he was hunted
[02:21:33] throughout the map court every available opportunity and never really
[02:21:36] got a chance to get off his damage but at least he got to buy the cool new item
[02:21:41] now we got to see the Hydra's breath at least so he had that going for a
[02:21:44] mighty. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Love love to see that one. I don't know. Like it's so early
[02:21:51] in the patch that I don't know if I have a read on the item. Like winter and I were talking
[02:21:56] about it. Like how good is it? How expensive is it? Like realistically our ranged hero
[02:22:01] is going to want to try and buy that before BKB's and other, you know, critical items
[02:22:05] and heroin pipes and eggs. I don't know. Yay. New item. Sorry. I should have given
[02:22:10] the real answer. We saw the new item, Nomad! Yeah!
[02:22:13] We also have an essence to serve. We didn't see the consecrated raps though, I don't think.
[02:22:19] Or the uh, the other one, the Crackseller thing.
[02:22:22] Which one do you think? I don't know, I'm afraid.
[02:22:26] Oh, good news for you guys.
[02:22:27] What's up?
[02:22:28] Yeah, I found the problem. Jekiro is the problem. There's no more Jekiro.
[02:22:33] Spirit gives both the Jekiro.
[02:22:35] Okay, they can survive.
[02:22:36] Then we go to the tree
[02:22:39] Literally the games that they lost in the event so far is just only against jikiro
[02:22:44] Well, you'd like to think that maybe someone would have picked up on that stat earlier
[02:22:48] You know, it's kind of surprising it took them this song, but they are in the upper bracket
[02:22:51] So maybe they didn't need to learn that. Oh, there you go
[02:22:54] You just got a piece of paper off the floor that must have been the one with
[02:22:59] They could only afford
[02:23:01] Different five pieces of paper not six and the six people was the jikiro one
[02:23:06] unlucky well
[02:23:07] All right. Anyway tree gets picked up
[02:23:09] But didn't it get some pretty big nerves like his shard the resource time is like insanely long now
[02:23:17] The charges of the creased. Yeah
[02:23:21] That's like I'm not got nervous all right and lower arm lower levels on your armor kind of
[02:23:26] Yeah, they got enough of that. Level 4 is the same, but they got enough of the other levels.
[02:23:31] Yeah. But at least, okay, so in that sense, Tree is still going to be the same post-Lane
[02:23:38] in Hero in regards to how powerful Living Armor is. Of course in Lane, he'll play on
[02:23:42] each seed and be kind of a body, but pretty much we're looking at for Tree to be as
[02:23:48] powerful as previous patches. He needs 4-point Living Armor, regardless if possible,
[02:23:51] then he's fine. But his vision is hardcore nerfed.
[02:23:55] So if you are picking tree you are kind of you have to make sure you use your eyes in the forest correctly
[02:24:00] You can't just throw them down like in the last patch and that's about it
[02:24:03] So I'd argue trees feel viable, you know as we see from spirit picking it and you just have to respect that
[02:24:10] certain aspects are a bit more
[02:24:12] still based you can't just be so
[02:24:15] different
[02:24:18] Yeah, the hero is still gonna do his thing in the game. It's a good vision
[02:24:21] very annoying as a carry to play in stream and you have to buy a mentor. You have to pick a hero that can buy a mentor.
[02:24:27] I mean, you're also going to need to invest a place to your observers just not anywhere right here.
[02:24:32] You probably get some extra ward out that a traditional 5 wouldn't be able to place
[02:24:36] and you're always going to have to value that in a true protector.
[02:24:40] You are indeed, yeah, just still a very annoying hero despite the nerfs.
[02:24:45] I think you just kind of bought him down into check but still probably going to be viable.
[02:24:48] to be viable. We'll see, Team Spirit, can they make it work beyond X? Going for the Slardar.
[02:24:54] Relatively early on in the draft for a Slardar, but what are our thoughts on this here?
[02:25:01] Just kind of interesting. I feel like Trion kind of can't do Slardar, is it? I feel like it's not
[02:25:07] easy to play Slardar, the tree, the early stages with the living armor.
[02:25:12] Yeah, but then it will change, right? Because of course, you have the haze,
[02:25:15] you have to crush so you're getting up to just do like a scout out of these random areas.
[02:25:21] I mean also in drafts, flexibility, like knowing that you can pick it off lane or mid,
[02:25:25] like if you pick it open, Nelsper is like, okay, we have to start thinking, okay,
[02:25:28] what if the Slardar goes here? They pick a mortar most likely to carry because the Slardar,
[02:25:33] like if Slardar wasn't picked, they're not picking mortar in this position, right?
[02:25:36] So I think Yandex is kind of, okay, Yatoru is roleplaying a pirate in the hope to
[02:25:41] do a spy on the draft there. I hope it's ISO, it's okay, but yeah. Slardar just force and
[02:25:48] skings in the draft. That's kind of how I see the hero.
[02:25:51] Yeah, definitely means you can't pick certain heroes. You also can't make midlaners who
[02:25:55] could be vulnerable to getting Slardar. So you really got to limit your picks in this
[02:26:01] regard, but likely it won't be the best Slardar game ever if it's picked this
[02:26:05] early.
[02:26:06] I like to tie it against a slava, or you have to discrel against slava, and the shard as well, always nice against the fish, can't run away, and tied right now is the natural enemy of slava, because when you kill someone, you get to eat the fish, you know, so whenever you kill slava, you should be able to get double charges, you know, because slava is a big fish.
[02:26:28] to be able to eat him straight up.
[02:26:30] What do they call the Mightens' Cache?
[02:26:34] Is it?
[02:26:35] I have no idea what it is called, but you need to have one that's looking forward to this.
[02:26:41] I'm really looking forward to this.
[02:26:42] I don't care what else happens.
[02:26:43] I'm just going to be watching this tidehunter gobble up fish like it's SeaWorld.
[02:26:48] How long until they're cosmetics for the fish as well?
[02:26:53] That's when you're not here to stay by the way.
[02:26:54] Valve introduced a Collector's Cash with fish upgrades.
[02:27:01] Hmm.
[02:27:02] Spirit at least.
[02:27:05] I think they've accepted that Yandex outplayed them in the early game in our game,
[02:27:08] and they've opted to go for very kind of play yourself heroes that get yourself,
[02:27:12] like defensively get yourself through the early game, right?
[02:27:15] Like Tide, he's the blob.
[02:27:16] Moira too.
[02:27:17] She just chills and like you dead short, you put calling on the ground,
[02:27:20] you can tie back a bit.
[02:27:21] tree again, one of the strongest 5 positions that just enabling a safe lane. The spirits
[02:27:27] like adaptation from game 1 to game 2 is not like let's out fight Yandex, it's just let's
[02:27:32] survive for Yandex and then they take the Marsy, a hero that has had just a splendid
[02:27:38] amount of changes to her in 7.41.
[02:27:41] Ty is kind of like always a natural counter against Marsy. Marsy is a call. I feel
[02:27:46] like it's not an easy lane to play, you know, like Ty is always against Marsy.
[02:27:51] I want it to be for the I want the Marcy to be the form position. Yeah
[02:27:56] It's like she has like the the bodyguard just got a nice amount of changes right there
[02:28:00] See the passive to her then see ally and then you rebound did you get to?
[02:28:06] Drag the ally in by default so the classic kind of survives
[02:28:09] So Marcy still good you get to run with a slaughter. You can jump with the Marcy
[02:28:14] So I'm to the murder with the Alcazar. It's just the whole yandex line up is just little cumbers of damage
[02:28:20] and aggression and frow and the elk is kind of nice because right now you have
[02:28:26] you don't have that ancient camp on the side and I feel like it benefits the elk
[02:28:31] when it got demoted to a medium camp so you can just stack and farm in I feel
[02:28:35] like out of all the carries elk kind of loves this the most so when I saw the
[02:28:39] changes in the patch I thought like out might you know maybe sneak back
[02:28:43] into the meta because of this smaller change yeah we haven't seen quite a
[02:28:48] a lot of him in the first few games on the patch, so maybe Alk is back. Team spirit
[02:28:54] going back in for this storm spirit despite game one. I mean, last still looked great
[02:28:58] on the storm despite the game that his team was having. He still managed to make some
[02:29:01] plays, so no surprises he didn't run back for it.
[02:29:07] The lockdown from Yandex is very skirmishy lockdown. It's not like hard, you know,
[02:29:11] you are going to kill an elusive hero style lockdown like out Marcy Slardar. You
[02:29:16] need to like perfectly come away or probably you're gonna run around the fight and be pretty chill
[02:29:22] Of course, that's where it would be able to pick out a phase
[02:29:26] Technically
[02:29:28] Are holding the murder flex between four and carry, but it's probably already decided even yandex is like cool
[02:29:33] Whatever, we're just taking away some of the stronger four positions that can
[02:29:38] Keep the tide through lane tie them to line such a classic lineup. This is like all the
[02:29:43] DPC Alliance drafts, we first pick Tide, we pick Lion, we play any lane because you have
[02:29:49] the big blob and a stun, you can be pretty good, it's a winning combination.
[02:29:56] Putwing is kind of like a nice replacement, like with the gush and Punish River and a
[02:30:01] lane.
[02:30:02] Probably Tide, putwing is probably like the strongest combinations for the lane.
[02:30:07] I feel like I'm missing a hero. I feel like, what is a better form now for them. I'm just
[02:30:25] looking at Spirit Signup. Whenever the four pick is, I just want to see the hero be able
[02:30:29] to actually make moves. We spoke about how important the moves were always in the
[02:30:33] last game, but his safe lane disappeared so quickly that it didn't really matter, but
[02:30:37] he has to be able to contest for rooms. He should be able to at least set up tide with
[02:30:43] you know, small count block, Q and L level 3, I can go make moves, but there's some
[02:30:49] kind of cool crate if you can find, but they will kind of concede on the map play.
[02:30:54] It also has to be arranged here, so you can actually work well with the tide.
[02:31:00] Do you think in my kind of situation where there's no post-force, then they have to use
[02:31:05] the mitre as a foe?
[02:31:07] Tensionally, because I'm looking at the foes, and again maybe I'm just missing a really
[02:31:12] obvious hero, and they pick it and I go, ah.
[02:31:17] It's okay.
[02:31:20] Not the best with tide.
[02:31:21] No.
[02:31:22] It's okay.
[02:31:23] of the chapter. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I'm like, I see the
[02:31:28] hero. I'm like, okay, yeah, sure. Like, you're going to be able
[02:31:30] to like stack camps. You're going to throw some like matter on
[02:31:32] a storm. And he's going to be like, Oh, yeah, more fight for
[02:31:35] me. But experience kind of potential like, like tide needs
[02:31:40] to go out. Cottle then go has illuminate mortar with
[02:31:43] dead short, they can hold this game hostage. Like if they
[02:31:46] lose out the early game, they are going to be so
[02:31:49] disgusting and their ability just to toxically push waves
[02:31:52] and just hold Yandex in like a limbo of like you need to close its game up correctly or we will just eventually overcome the problems that you've made for us.
[02:32:01] Yeah.
[02:32:05] Let's have a look. Final pick now for Yandex. They need themselves either on off-line or mid-line and they are going to go in for the Queen of Pain as a final pick for them.
[02:32:14] So nice bit of magic damage coming through. This will tie off noticed on the splatter and run off the draft quite nicely.
[02:32:21] How does this Yandex draft differ from their last one Winter?
[02:32:26] I think very similar from the last one, they're kind of trying to just play well, play well ahead from the laning phase.
[02:32:33] They have pretty strong lanes and then they have like a good matchup in the mid lane.
[02:32:36] So they're definitely looking to do the same thing where they try to win the lane, control the runes,
[02:32:41] and just try to snowball from there.
[02:32:43] But this time I think Spirit has a much better setup in the lanes.
[02:32:46] I kind of like their draft this time more.
[02:32:48] time more. So I feel like they should be able to answer it better this time.
[02:32:53] So you're going to like what team spirit is putting down?
[02:32:56] It's more like a draft adjustment of survival, right? I do agree with
[02:33:01] Winter that they got better lanes this time. I think Lao should be helped out on his rooms a
[02:33:06] bit better this time, but I'm still really scared of like what happens if the lanes do go
[02:33:10] poorly. Yandex, they have all this damage. They can take Roshan, they can take
[02:33:14] to mentor they can farm the stacks really efficiently they're going to be able to itemize to deal with
[02:33:19] the you know yatoru mortar that needs so much time to get online so for that i'm like i'm kind of
[02:33:24] worried for them um but yeah the index like they're draft if they execute it cleanly it'll be really
[02:33:30] fun with the amount of kills that they can find like all of their heroes want to like play with
[02:33:34] each other to break the entire map. I think there's a lot of responsibilities on Trion on on
[02:33:40] He needs to be the one. He needs to help the tide, get some kills there and sort of like
[02:33:48] get the early game going for them. If he doesn't do that, I feel like they might have a hard
[02:33:53] time going into the mid game.
[02:33:56] Alrighty, Yandex won the game. Arpiv Spirit can't pull it together. They will be knocked
[02:34:01] down to the low bracket here at CL1 Birmingham. Can they pull it out of the bag? Let's
[02:34:06] Let's find out without casting a duo of Ricky and Zack.
[02:34:11] Thank you, Nomad. Yes, game number two, about to begin.
[02:34:15] Based off last game, Yandex absolutely dominated the laning stage.
[02:34:19] They came out of it with a ton of momentum.
[02:34:22] It was never a game spirit of legitimate avenue back in this game.
[02:34:25] They had a couple of attempts to try and pull things back,
[02:34:28] but for the most part, it was Yandex's game from start to finish.
[02:34:31] Let's see what they do this time around.
[02:34:33] Zack, how do you feel about the draft?
[02:34:35] Obviously kind of a weird question on the new patch like oh wish wish even better, but do you do you believe more in this this draft?
[02:34:43] Oh, God, I'm gonna be hold that thought
[02:34:46] We'll see if they could finish off to your duty here first
[02:34:49] But it'd be a great way to start the game and it goes to collapse
[02:34:54] And he leveled blink at the last second that is very painful
[02:35:00] He didn't want to and he was waiting but by the time he saw the blast coming in he couldn't
[02:35:07] level it and blink out fast enough so yeah the indecision kind of got him there.
[02:35:13] He really wanted to greet out to start with a regular ability that he was on every front.
[02:35:18] He's got one yummy fish already here.
[02:35:21] I missed the animation.
[02:35:22] Dang I haven't actually seen the animation.
[02:35:23] This is all I care about actually.
[02:35:25] Dude one way that fishing is slowly being added in in the foraging and now this
[02:35:32] fishing is becoming real seven point eight
[02:35:35] Wherever like down the line however many years it takes fishing will be in Dota
[02:35:40] We're getting back to your original question. Oh wait, they're gonna show you the watch animation. Yes
[02:35:46] yummy you
[02:35:49] Thank you production
[02:35:51] Well that as for the lane
[02:35:55] This would be pretty free for the storm spirit this first wave. I mean typically the
[02:36:01] The queen of paint supposed to kind of
[02:36:04] Dominate I would say like the first three ish levels, but with storm spirit. It's
[02:36:10] Pretty chill, you know, he said there's no dagger to worry about until now
[02:36:18] Yeah, it's an easier start for him, but of course once you're back to life
[02:36:23] I don't know, level four you're kind of back on track.
[02:36:26] Just an unfortunate start.
[02:36:28] At least the kill didn't go to Laurel,
[02:36:29] otherwise that makes it even worse for him in this mid lane.
[02:36:32] It went over to collapse,
[02:36:33] which is a much better start for Spirit.
[02:36:37] Cause draft aside,
[02:36:37] I think what really fell apart for Spirit
[02:36:39] was just the repeated kills down here,
[02:36:43] which could happen again.
[02:36:45] Like the Marci-Slaard-Arcama that can be scary
[02:36:49] if they get close.
[02:36:50] Trin's a pretty good hero to fight other melee's
[02:36:52] and Muerta has, you know, Deadshot,
[02:36:54] but no escape if they get on top.
[02:36:57] So as long as Spirit does better down there,
[02:36:59] I feel like that's already a lot of improvement
[02:37:02] from game one that feels like, you know,
[02:37:04] we just never felt Yatoro's presence in Alaska.
[02:37:08] He did his best to creep cut,
[02:37:09] but the scaling game that they needed from him,
[02:37:12] the moments we saw him join, it just wasn't enough.
[02:37:15] The same idea, like it's a different hero on the Muerta,
[02:37:17] but it's the same concept, right?
[02:37:19] Her ultimate will be quite strong
[02:37:20] versus a lot of Yandex's draft.
[02:37:23] A lot of their heroes are meant to play fast.
[02:37:26] You know, win this game before you get
[02:37:28] to that scary spirit late game.
[02:37:31] You can't be losing the save lanes super hard like last time.
[02:37:33] That's ultimately what cost them.
[02:37:37] Yeah, I actually really like the changes
[02:37:38] in where it's at in this patch.
[02:37:39] We'll see how good it actually makes her.
[02:37:42] I think on paper, it seems pretty strong,
[02:37:45] but we'll have to see what ends up happening.
[02:37:47] He's contemplating another kill, and another big fishy for collapse.
[02:37:52] He's up to two now.
[02:37:55] He's a big boy.
[02:37:56] He's eating two yummy fish.
[02:38:03] Here's the thing.
[02:38:04] We've been seeing Alchemist actually get picked up for, you know, the first time
[02:38:06] in quite a while.
[02:38:07] This hero was kind of dead.
[02:38:10] I honestly don't exactly know why.
[02:38:13] I mean, teams are believing in it.
[02:38:14] Maybe it's the change.
[02:38:15] Why he's back why he's back, you know, like I don't really have a good read on why he's back
[02:38:21] But there you know, these are going for them. They're feeling like he's pretty solid
[02:38:25] Give you my theory after we see this Lotus fight break out pull back
[02:38:29] And that was a really that was a long pull from Sata, but that's gonna get him the first blood
[02:38:34] I'm not the first blood the first kill down here and the and the healing Lotus
[02:38:39] The first kill they need because that's what they want
[02:38:41] They want to repeat how the last game was going, last hits not going as well as before, so they do want to find these kills.
[02:38:49] Yeah, I mean you mentioned it right, you don't have a good ways of escaping this duo once they actually get on top of you, so good stuff there from Soxa and Notus to take advantage.
[02:38:57] I'd like the low armor hero that is Trion.
[02:38:59] Yeah, the Lotus kind of forced the issue, forced them to get close.
[02:39:03] Back to this alchemist question.
[02:39:05] If you remember a couple patches ago before the waterways got added, we had that camp behind the safe land tower that was the medium and the small camp, which is essentially what we're back to.
[02:39:16] Most carries cannot do ancients that early, but a lot can do medium and small camps. And so you see Malady stacking already. Alchemist, you know, he's going to use acid sprays, he's going to farm both.
[02:39:26] both. It's the kind of farming Alchemist likes. One of the best items against him was Shiva.
[02:39:33] Shiva's gave you armor, it gave you anti-heal, it slowed down his attack speed. It has more
[02:39:38] armor but it doesn't have the anti-heal that it used to which I think makes it now a little
[02:39:43] more awkward. The anti-heal items are essentially Spirit Vessel which some heroes can build
[02:39:50] but they can be answered by dispells
[02:39:52] then there is scottie which only some heroes can build in this typically a
[02:39:57] carry hero
[02:39:58] and then
[02:39:59] it's the new item uh...
[02:40:02] fellows prosier can like steal your
[02:40:04] health restoration essentially reducing it
[02:40:07] and i i'm not really sure who's building that right now
[02:40:10] but it doesn't have that like me
[02:40:11] it like she was dead which a lot of mid heroes who were the ones who would
[02:40:15] try to slow down the out there like you know build it you know i don't
[02:40:18] care it's the perfect item for me yeah I my thought process was like I guess the
[02:40:23] small medium is back behind the tower and like that was what made alchemist
[02:40:27] really strong like you just you accept that you're gonna lose your lane and
[02:40:30] then you do this and you're like haha I'm back right so we're still seeing a lot
[02:40:35] of stacks being made by spear at the same time like they know that this is
[02:40:39] the game plan for the alchemist so collapse who is having an absolute
[02:40:43] free lane is going to have an enormous amount of stacks in the
[02:40:46] jungle to clear up as well.
[02:40:49] Oh, there it is.
[02:40:50] Laurel's got him.
[02:40:51] Well, Laurel takes the hard camp, right?
[02:40:53] But that ancient camp is definitely
[02:40:54] going to go to collapse.
[02:40:57] Top lane, rotation from Panto, very nice root.
[02:41:00] In with the damage, Watson's going to die.
[02:41:03] And to collapse with the fish, he did.
[02:41:05] We lost the animation to this Don, which is unfortunate.
[02:41:12] That's exactly what the panel wanted to see, right?
[02:41:15] They wanted to see Panto make these rotations.
[02:41:18] That's very sneaky on the tree.
[02:41:20] And thanks to the nature's guys, you
[02:41:21] show up, get these kills, slow down the alchemist.
[02:41:27] See what they can do to help mid.
[02:41:30] Those trees, tree's kind of an awkward here to help mid.
[02:41:32] You used to just spam the, ooh.
[02:41:34] Marshal's actually kept on killing you alive.
[02:41:37] That's big.
[02:41:37] Those are the boots.
[02:41:39] That being said, Malady's in a really rough spot.
[02:41:42] does have dive but the damage coming from collapse he wants the fish man he's
[02:41:47] gonna chase after this one one more anchor smash maybe you wrap do it
[02:41:52] ravage okay they're not gonna do it I would have ravaged but you know doesn't
[02:41:58] want the fish badly enough mistake I'll say before more important kill
[02:42:06] preferably the alchemist of course yeah the alchor the quap right you probably
[02:42:11] just walk to one of the lanes.
[02:42:15] Right now, we're seeing a much better lane performance out
[02:42:17] of spirit.
[02:42:17] All three cores looking really good in terms of, yes.
[02:42:24] Definite improvement from game one.
[02:42:27] We'll see how long they can keep this going though,
[02:42:29] because there is like a timer where notice gets level six
[02:42:32] suddenly.
[02:42:33] Crows of Haze is a very good ability to gank with,
[02:42:37] especially if Toxa is nearby.
[02:42:39] I don't think we'll be seeing too much out of the Alchemist for a while.
[02:42:42] I think his game plan is pretty much what we're seeing right now, which is Jungle.
[02:42:48] That's always Alchemist's game plan, right?
[02:42:50] You gotta get the Radiance Blink before you really start doing too much.
[02:42:53] And it's your opponent's job to mess with you, which is exactly what
[02:42:56] Spirit's trying to do right now.
[02:42:58] It won't be easy to kill him, but.
[02:43:02] You can make sure he's not comfortable farming.
[02:43:04] You are going to need some help, though.
[02:43:06] He definitely is going to need some help is.
[02:43:08] Now that the ultimate has expired, I was like, yeah, they could definitely just drop the ravage.
[02:43:13] They really want the fish buff. Give it to collapse.
[02:43:16] One more gush, one second.
[02:43:18] Oh, yeah.
[02:43:20] Fish number four.
[02:43:22] That's why you don't ravage a Phoenix.
[02:43:24] You know, you want the Alchemist. You want the Alchemist's fish, right?
[02:43:28] Not the Phoenix's fish.
[02:43:30] I like that they block that camp in the back too. They know what Alchemist wants to do.
[02:43:35] You actually used to do this in the past, too, when we had the small camp and the medium camp back there.
[02:43:39] You would sometimes block these.
[02:43:42] They're actually scanning, seeing if they're going for a Deward or something, if the Phoenix is sitting nearby.
[02:43:47] It's just barely off the mark, but Klaps will get this tower, and he's on his way.
[02:43:51] First item will be Sheva's Guard this game.
[02:43:57] It's like a reverse of last game.
[02:43:59] It's kind of a spirit.
[02:44:01] He's doing really well in the lanes.
[02:44:03] Things just that mid lane that is kind of struggling, though maybe not that surprising. Queen of Pain into Storm, those started Blaine so maybe it got a bit better.
[02:44:12] I'd love to see them try to help him get some runes, because Laurel was not able to find a rune last game for a while.
[02:44:18] And Storm lives or dies by those.
[02:44:22] This game you have a keeper I suppose, so got a little help with mana if you have no runes, but still.
[02:44:29] They're gonna get a little bit of damage in the claps. He's very tanky though, so I don't
[02:44:34] see a kill coming their way, but they will manage to push him out for now.
[02:44:39] The fish are too powerful. What's he got? He's got a 3 health, 2 attack range, and
[02:44:46] 1 bonus damage block per fish. So, he's got too much right now, but it's getting there.
[02:44:55] You also get a fish for leveling up, I don't think it shows in the buff, but for anyone
[02:45:00] watching confused by the fish now in Dota, you get a fish for leveling up, you get a
[02:45:06] fish for getting kills, you get a fish for people dying under your debuff.
[02:45:10] Yeah, I mean you can just hover the ability to kind of see the totals that he's gained
[02:45:16] Which, you know, it adds up quite fast.
[02:45:23] Bottom lane, Invisroon, gained for Chirr, Jr. on the Queen of Pain.
[02:45:27] Going for that first item, Kaia.
[02:45:33] OK, I thought they would save these Asians stacks to collapse,
[02:45:36] but Laurel, I guess, needs it a little bit more.
[02:45:39] Unless the slap's just getting easier.
[02:45:41] Let's just intake them.
[02:45:42] Nah, most of them go to Laurel here, which is nice.
[02:45:46] I like class this choice for this casual shawl. He'll build something out of it later
[02:45:51] But okay pretty cheap now, and you just get 10 extra magic resist
[02:45:57] which before
[02:45:59] Low but he's okay with Panto here three low commanding a little pain coming through. Yeah, this could be a very easy kill
[02:46:09] Believe that's max crush now on those these level seven now with a blink forward from cheer junior
[02:46:14] You're desperately trying to close the gap here onto your Toro, but Tidehunter teeping
[02:46:18] in.
[02:46:19] Gonna put a stop to this.
[02:46:26] Tidehunter goes.
[02:46:27] I don't think anyone else is gonna go.
[02:46:31] You have to commit a lot to kill this Tide.
[02:46:35] Look at this chase bottom.
[02:46:40] Give me your fish!
[02:46:43] just a hungry lad man he gets to fish when he kills Slardar that would be
[02:46:50] true that I would like that for lower reasons okay I will accept one fish if
[02:46:56] they had a custom animation where he just eats Slardar or any of the like any
[02:47:01] of the fish yeah yeah it used to be gruesome like attack on Titan status
[02:47:10] where they just aren't getting close enough.
[02:47:12] He's gonna raise the rating on this game.
[02:47:14] It needs to be brutal.
[02:47:18] 12-minute power roots spotting out.
[02:47:20] It's gonna be an amplified damage picked up for collapse.
[02:47:25] Even scarier.
[02:47:26] Tidehunter now is your mid-power.
[02:47:29] Not gonna survive this.
[02:47:31] I mean, how do you deal with him, right?
[02:47:34] He has bought a plate mail and a casual shawl.
[02:47:37] He has a chipped vest.
[02:47:39] Four fish of course, right? He's so tanky. His resistances are really high at this point.
[02:47:46] And a lot of your damage is physical, which he will then hit you with the anchor smash and reduce your damage.
[02:47:52] You need Phoenix and Queen of Pain and a lot of time to kill him, which is why I like that casual shawl, right?
[02:48:00] It's answering the one way they have to kill him.
[02:48:03] He still wants and gets really farmed, and he's still working on the Radiance, so you're
[02:48:08] not worried about him for five more minutes.
[02:48:11] At least Tychus is not worried about him.
[02:48:12] Rue's got to be a little careful.
[02:48:14] I mean, he's going to have it in like a minute.
[02:48:17] Like Radiance is almost done.
[02:48:20] He'll be very close to having it, but, whoop, jump in, mwah.
[02:48:26] Okay.
[02:48:27] Never mind.
[02:48:29] Uh, Marci still seemingly does a lot of damage with Unleash, uh, add a little bit of minus
[02:48:35] armor from the acid spray, that'll do it.
[02:48:41] Comically fast death there.
[02:48:43] He's not Collapse, you know?
[02:48:46] Easy, he's not the tanky tide hunter.
[02:48:50] All the other heroes still have to be worried about what Yandex has.
[02:48:54] I like this collapse just show up front in their face, he's not gonna start stealing
[02:49:00] their triangle farm, and his Panto it's kinda like to doubt for him too, they can do this,
[02:49:12] notice, it does get destroyed, they're a really nice overgrowth here, they have, they have
[02:49:18] tied onto Ravage if they want to throw it, but a great save from the Marci, he manages
[02:49:23] survive, but Soxa, yeah underneath the tier 2. They don't want to chase any further. Okay.
[02:49:32] Good play there from Yondex. Really good save from the Marcy.
[02:49:37] That's two big spells, right? Overgrowth and Ravage committed for this. It is one of those things
[02:49:42] where I think Spirit are still pretty dominant on the map, so I don't know how much Yondex can
[02:49:47] get out of this time that these are on cooldown, but it is still space for Alch,
[02:49:51] That is the main thing you're trying to get right now
[02:49:59] He's getting an axe
[02:50:03] On alchemist
[02:50:07] First aggs on maybe queen of pain could go super hard
[02:50:14] I'm trying to think who else like there's no way you just give it to Florida right?
[02:50:17] I feel like that would be a little rough
[02:50:19] But maybe a first item agg to feed a ping.
[02:50:24] Pan does come through, it's a really good smoke this is the blinker deal out from the
[02:50:29] squad.
[02:50:30] Who do they find?
[02:50:31] Yatoro gets the crush, the leap in, the stun from Lawson as well, it's enough.
[02:50:38] Now you got to run, you got to get out of here.
[02:50:39] The rest of Spirit trying to cut him off, Panso with a nice ward placed aggressively.
[02:50:44] And they'll look for Soxa it seems.
[02:50:47] I say that, they do manage to find the tree first and with that, Panto is dead instead.
[02:50:56] Clean two kills there for Yandex.
[02:51:00] Getting back on track a little bit.
[02:51:02] The gold lead's pretty close.
[02:51:04] Technically, you're behind when you have an alchemist, right?
[02:51:06] You're supposed to have the gold lead.
[02:51:08] That goes back to that top lane going so well for Spirit.
[02:51:11] So, alchemist has just started to build that gold difference.
[02:51:14] Well, we usually see him go for the blink and other items.
[02:51:19] The aggs...
[02:51:20] I'm still thinking through this.
[02:51:21] The aggs in pain.
[02:51:22] Yeah, the Scream of Pain is pretty good.
[02:51:28] Like when it activates with the dagger, and the damage went up a little bit, I think,
[02:51:33] in the recent patch.
[02:51:35] I mean, the amount of bonus gold it generates through Gretel's Heat Breed is kinda nuts.
[02:51:44] Like I didn't do the math on how quickly it pays back, you know, you get it early
[02:51:53] Bro my NA education can't handle that
[02:51:56] Already are you just spreadsheet?
[02:51:59] Yeah, I'd have to see it. I'd have to like graph this
[02:52:02] I'd have to like open Excel make a graph and see how quick like what the actual number of CS you need for its
[02:52:08] paid-self office mm-hmm
[02:52:10] the thing is like
[02:52:12] If they continue this strategy where they're just like making space for the alchemist it does pay itself off like I
[02:52:20] Was too relatively fast. I'm guessing they've done the map on this the question is who's gonna get the first ads
[02:52:25] You know like is it just here a junior? Are they gonna give it to your slaughter?
[02:52:30] I'm gonna give it to Marci or the Phoenix like you actually know put the jump in here from law
[02:52:34] Nice words like to put a safe and pick me up
[02:52:36] They are out they committed this chronic way for this as well blink from pure junior up onto the high ground
[02:52:41] going for the TP he's gonna make it so another disengaged from Yandex they find
[02:52:50] nothing on spirit this is a five hero rotation they're gonna keep moving in
[02:52:57] though they are just restricting the map even if you don't get kills which
[02:53:01] alchemist might be getting farm but are the rest of your heroes getting farm
[02:53:04] okay now it looks funny because alchemist did just give the eggs over to
[02:53:09] cheer a junior so will this pay off what can you do with this okay with the
[02:53:16] change to scream of pain there's no way she dies for her own acts like this
[02:53:21] early in the game right it's kind of early out there's like she's all she'll
[02:53:27] heal like
[02:53:31] I'm sure it's fine. It would be hilarious. If that actually happens, like she gets like a five-year-old shadow strike and it actually instantly dies.
[02:53:44] I would, you know, that would be a funny moment. I don't think it's gonna happen, but I want to see it.
[02:53:51] They have a lot of healing on the side of spirit though, between the...
[02:54:00] Well, tree and healing is a little harder to enact nowadays, but you...
[02:54:03] Ooh!
[02:54:04] Is this intentional?
[02:54:05] No, it's definitely not, but...
[02:54:09] You know, they're gonna get him in the end.
[02:54:12] Storm, finally finding a kill.
[02:54:14] That's actually his first kill.
[02:54:16] All these rotations, like you said, have not quite paid off.
[02:54:19] his first galvanized stack at 19 minutes.
[02:54:24] Well, with this they will put some pressure on bottom, but the big tight-hunter teeth
[02:54:35] took it.
[02:54:36] Easy come, easy go.
[02:54:37] There goes that galvanized stack.
[02:54:38] Well, there goes like he had a galvanized stack, I don't know, for how much longer.
[02:54:45] The physical burst damage on this lineup is incredibly high, right?
[02:54:48] It's one of the reasons Mars be combined with the spot are so good. They just go in a little bit too aggressive here
[02:54:53] It gets bounced up here a nice overgrowth. There's gonna be a ravaged clip being three
[02:54:59] You heroes dead and those are stacked for you Toro
[02:55:03] We haven't really mentioned this aspect of the war to but
[02:55:08] He's gonna burn here to the Phoenix of nothing else very nice turn around here Watson getting the credit for the kill and
[02:55:14] Well, he went from 6th on the net worth to 2nd in a matter of moments, so something's paying off correctly.
[02:55:24] Did you get damage from it as well, right? So, get a little damage, get this extra gold from farming in these kills.
[02:55:32] It's kinda working out.
[02:55:33] It's so much gold actually. What in the world is this?
[02:55:37] I got some math to do later. They're gonna try to punish it with all those ultimates down
[02:55:42] But Alchemist already has his again. You get that dude in one go, which they did not yet
[02:55:48] Fox is on the way to save him
[02:55:50] Yeah, pick me up get some mouths done throwing up onto the high ground
[02:55:53] They might still turn this one for more. Cheer to goes in
[02:55:58] Stoutestrack in the silence, but
[02:56:00] It'd be a little bit has attempt to continue the chase. I don't blame them
[02:56:05] They're playing the long game. It feels like on the index, right? Like they're just gonna farm up on the Alku
[02:56:09] You know is actually progressing his items now
[02:56:12] He gave like a casual agonim step throw over but now he's got to get BKB. It's gotta start building some damage for himself
[02:56:21] It's a pretty cool strat Queen of Painty is one of the best scaling heroes
[02:56:26] At least in my eyes has been for a while, but one of the biggest limiting factors has been getting there
[02:56:32] but
[02:56:33] casual infusion of an agonist that there might fix that problem.
[02:56:38] It's also interesting because in the carry-to-carry matchup, at least in the past,
[02:56:44] I would rate Muerta over the Alchemist, and that's why you'd want to play a little faster.
[02:56:48] But if you consider the team scaling as a whole, good trade for the Torment Inter,
[02:56:52] or aggs for the Torment Inter here. They will not make it in time,
[02:56:55] even as they smoke and look for something.
[02:56:57] the road just scaling on the port is a lot better for Yandex and
[02:57:03] starter also has a new change to his his innate seaborn sentinel it's
[02:57:10] percentage base instead of the flat which means if you do go late like that
[02:57:13] does eventually outscale what it used to yeah perhaps as a team you can outscale
[02:57:18] even though you have alchemist who is typically a more early to mid game
[02:57:21] oriented hero. You go this greedy aggs build, you boost up your team, you'll still do stuff.
[02:57:29] Like, Alk, late game, it's still annoying. It's just not as hard scaling as the heroes,
[02:57:35] but then you cover that with two of the best support players out there who have been playing
[02:57:40] a scaling style. I mean, he has his term to be the support.
[02:57:47] That's one of the best support aggs
[02:57:50] Legitimately as well you think about alchemist after he buys a couple more of his own items turn John gives an axe over to
[02:57:57] Either the Marcy or the Phoenix is gonna cause a lot of issues in the fight
[02:58:07] Looking at the BKB timings here for for y'all next I think that's kind of what they're waiting for at this point the ages
[02:58:13] Yeah, it's on spirit
[02:58:14] I think that's kind of puts pressure on spear to get something done with it
[02:58:19] You are gonna slowly start to fall behind in that gold lead the longer that you wait
[02:58:26] I feel like this is one of the changes to the Triant, so more mana costs and living armor
[02:58:52] has encouraged him to buy arcane boots, whereas in the past sometimes you skipped it.
[02:58:56] And then the shard nerfs, right? You just don't have as many as you used to, so you should just rush it,
[02:59:00] place them everywhere if you lost them, no big deal.
[02:59:03] They'd be pretty smart with them. So he kinda went for these other items first.
[02:59:06] They don't have that extra vision to work with, so it's not as easy to know where Yandex is for these...
[02:59:13] these moves and pickoffs. But you can at least know where the towers are, so the force is down with the Aegis.
[02:59:18] Yondex wants to avoid us, we can at least get these.
[02:59:23] Moerzo still does a ton of building damage, and I mean despite everything that's going on your Toro is still very farmed on the Moerzo.
[02:59:29] He's not actually too far behind, he's, you know, we kind of mentioned, I think she scales better as a carry now, than she did in the previous patch.
[02:59:39] Even without, you know, some of the fastest comps they've worked, but...
[02:59:48] We'll see what they want to do here as the potential smoke into the triangle here.
[02:59:53] Finding Slara would be pretty massive, but...
[02:59:57] Is that they're just going to position around the mid-tier too?
[03:00:00] Can it collapse?
[03:00:02] Like it's the vision, looking at Chirijun here.
[03:00:04] He's going to go in, drop the Shiba.
[03:00:06] There's going to be the dead in the water.
[03:00:07] A first Sonic wave that makes him stay vortex back in.
[03:00:10] In comes the ravage onto three, but the VKV is going to protect them.
[03:00:13] They're going to try and turn this around.
[03:00:14] Laurel, pretty low on that.
[03:00:15] It's going to get silenced up in Watson.
[03:00:17] Look in to finish the job. That's the ages and they find more egg dropped on the high ground
[03:00:23] It's a try and burn through them. It's a lot of damage, but Malady is dead and storm spirit
[03:00:28] You know a little bit too far
[03:00:32] Ages down
[03:00:33] You get the Phoenix, but you spent a lot for this
[03:00:38] It's not bad from spirit, but is it enough?
[03:00:41] I wanted to see a 5 on 5 where only one hero dies, but both teams have a lot of tankiness,
[03:00:50] resistances, heals, and due to this Axe build there, they're lacking some typical damage
[03:00:55] from the Alchemist.
[03:00:57] 10 heroes walk in, 9 heroes walk out.
[03:01:00] I guess they lost the Aegis like you said, too.
[03:01:04] Yeah.
[03:01:05] But I don't know, it's still a question of like, does Muir actually just outscale
[03:01:08] all of them, right?
[03:01:09] I'm not sure.
[03:01:10] spirits readers yeah we're not pressured like we believe in the abhoro we believe in our our late
[03:01:16] game where spirit when they're in good form everyone is scared of the late game spirit right
[03:01:21] they always managed to find these crazy fights you'll have the tree and shard to work with even
[03:01:25] though it's been nerfed it's still extra vision that yandex doesn't have so you know when they
[03:01:29] split up you know where to go they might feel fine it's like a greedy enchantments we're gonna
[03:01:37] have a pretty good this game. You need armor right? So that's
[03:01:43] super surprising. Three stacks on speed for natural. Very neat.
[03:01:49] Yeah, I don't know if this is enough to like for her to like really turn into a
[03:01:54] a legitimate carry. I think the past part of it is nice whether or not the
[03:02:00] one percent per death is good. We'll have to see.
[03:02:02] Any scaling as long as you're not dying the scaling is helpful right yeah
[03:02:11] Smoke dip here on the index spotter's gonna run right by award though
[03:02:19] Right hunter knows these are the intern
[03:02:21] Yeah, I'm with you like maybe maybe the scaling on spirit is there we saw how much damage
[03:02:35] the storm spirit could do last game even when they're super far behind the jump in find
[03:02:39] the Phoenix the silence is there with the Muerta they get the kill no escape there a very
[03:02:47] nice Ward century deep in that lane given in the vision that they need and collapse
[03:02:50] We'll just frontline for a steamer. The Tidehunter is so tanky right now.
[03:02:55] But if they manage to open onto the right here, Tori gets the BKB off in time,
[03:02:59] but he finds free and Sonic went deletion.
[03:03:01] Now the question is, can she or do you think so?
[03:03:03] BKB if Azon's gonna make a little bit of space, they turn onto the Tidehunter.
[03:03:07] He's gonna pop the grab, he's gonna try and reduce some of the damage,
[03:03:09] and they catch the Phoenix from the ravage.
[03:03:10] No egg, and that is gonna be a dieback.
[03:03:12] Pick me up to pull back Watson.
[03:03:16] And Spirit's gonna continue to chase the jump in,
[03:03:18] He's dead in the water and he's found the Marcy Rue will help finish the job with a blinding light and spear it!
[03:03:26] Coming out ahead in the fight they finish off the tower, you may be down a little bit in gold but the damage...
[03:03:33] It's there!
[03:03:36] Panto scouted ahead, just enough.
[03:03:40] I think we'll see here right now, just after.
[03:03:42] Thanks to all Marci jumping in, it gave you a total time to react with a BKB and after
[03:03:48] that you had to change targets on Yandex.
[03:03:50] They were really hoping to jump Muerta's killer with the Phoenix Byback and win this fight.
[03:03:55] Once he's good to go, you know, you're in a weird spot.
[03:03:58] You delivered yourself to the Muerta.
[03:04:00] Uh-oh, they found Watson.
[03:04:02] Alright, Laurel's not a man though, he should be fine.
[03:04:08] You're right though.
[03:04:09] though yeah it's we're kind of seeing the the alchemist issue of like does this
[03:04:15] hero actually scale well enough like he's got farm but we're not seeing maybe
[03:04:21] enough damage out of the hero quite yet
[03:04:25] I'm also trying to feel if, uh, like with the Aggs on Queen of Pain worth it in the
[03:04:39] end at this point, right?
[03:04:42] It is a good item and the damage scaling is great, but some of the reason the damage
[03:04:46] scaling is good is because of the other items that she has, like it all ties together,
[03:04:49] you know?
[03:04:50] Was that early of an Aggs when all she has is a Stongeon Kaia?
[03:04:53] Actually got it before the Sondra Kai, you know, she just had the Kaiya. Like did it really has it paid off?
[03:05:00] I guess the longer it goes it does, but yeah, I mean it might have increased the cream crease farm speed a decent amount as well
[03:05:07] Mid lane they see the tide, but they need to see something else
[03:05:12] He's not really the hero you want to go on
[03:05:16] We'll get some vision of Rue. They saw Panto's vault, but they managed to get the opening the big Sonic Wave onto 2.
[03:05:21] Who can't finish the job? It's going to be notice taking out the Koreans.
[03:05:24] Chirijir is already very low to start the fight Malady.
[03:05:27] You put them back, Watson looking for an opening, but they found a Marci dead in the water.
[03:05:32] In multiple ways, they're dying in the river.
[03:05:37] Collapsed it has no hesitation. He's willing to jump in at any moment.
[03:05:43] He's so tanky. He got this consecrated raft too, which I think is this...
[03:05:47] I think it's really good. Like once you're fighting.
[03:05:49] Yeah, it is so good.
[03:05:51] And in that last fight, because he's so tanky,
[03:05:53] 9 tanky fish at that fight, he has all these items, right?
[03:05:56] He jumped in just as Alchemist was about to join that fight.
[03:05:59] And if Alchemist gets in there, I think Yondex cleans that up.
[03:06:03] But instead, everyone jumps in and Alchemist stalks in the back,
[03:06:06] because the blink got cancelled by Collapse.
[03:06:08] You end up losing your support, you know Phoenix has no buyback.
[03:06:11] Two catapults spawning earlier than before.
[03:06:14] Great identification from Spirit, like, let's just go, let's just go get the high ground.
[03:06:18] jump in one. It doesn't have the damage to fly in Laurel himself. Needs to be careful.
[03:06:25] BKB's been spent. And with this, can they hold the high ground? Cheer to your knees to
[03:06:33] start chipping them down. Yatoro does have the ultimate. Will use it.
[03:06:38] Therial form's gonna protect him for the moment, but how much longer can they keep
[03:06:43] this up? Big stock wave on the Duba. Laurel's gonna jump in instead here on the
[03:06:46] The BKB protecting by a really nice egg is down, but they've got their BKBs up.
[03:06:51] They take out Malady, and can they get out now is the question.
[03:06:55] Violence catching them, jumping again from notice.
[03:06:58] Big overgrowth is going to fight too, and they just turn on the Alchemist.
[03:07:01] He's dead.
[03:07:02] Spock's son is going to jump in with the help of these heroes, but can he get out?
[03:07:07] Notice trying to finish off Laurel is going to get him.
[03:07:09] He's yoinked the gem, trying to run now.
[03:07:11] Tira Jr. is still alive.
[03:07:13] The Queen of Pain.
[03:07:14] She's the real carry.
[03:07:16] They've invested so much into this hero.
[03:07:19] Ooh, he needs to be careful, but they will finally get the job done.
[03:07:24] A full team life for Yandex, but it's still a little costly.
[03:07:31] It was close.
[03:07:33] I think it was the Marcy that disposed Muerta out of the Caudalheel coming in.
[03:07:38] And I think if that heal had connected, Yatoro probably finished the job there.
[03:07:42] We see how low Chira Jr. and Noda Star at the end of that fight.
[03:07:46] That came down to the wire.
[03:07:47] Yeah, we see here a lot of damage from that sunray throughout that.
[03:07:51] Yeah, we know the egg ultimately falls.
[03:07:55] It was still, yeah, still enough damage coming out from the Phoenix.
[03:07:59] I mean, otherwise this case doesn't happen, right?
[03:08:03] The jump in the end, they deliver, delivers his carry to the Moira to make sure
[03:08:10] the gamestark and then dodges the heal.
[03:08:13] That was a great play from Soxa, letting them win this one.
[03:08:17] I didn't realize he missed the heal as a result.
[03:08:19] That's actually nuts.
[03:08:21] Yeah, like I said, a little costly
[03:08:23] because you do lose your own carry-out, but.
[03:08:27] Yeah, spirit feels it.
[03:08:28] Like, oh, they had some momentum going for them.
[03:08:31] That was their push, you know,
[03:08:32] they could have backed out a little sooner.
[03:08:37] Soxa's got the wraps as well.
[03:08:38] Dude, this item is nuts.
[03:08:41] I actually cannot believe how good it is.
[03:08:44] It has to get nerfed.
[03:08:45] Yeah, this item has to get nerfed.
[03:08:48] Technically, when you're not fighting,
[03:08:51] you know, it's not doing as much for you.
[03:08:53] But once you start fighting,
[03:08:56] getting a charge every three seconds
[03:08:58] essentially translates to 40 HP regen,
[03:09:01] which is absurd.
[03:09:03] It's like Abaddon casting aphotic shield on you
[03:09:05] off cooldown,
[03:09:07] As long as you're constantly fighting and activating it.
[03:09:09] Jump in, look for the time to get the initiation here on the storm.
[03:09:12] Hex up, Kettick finish the job. Huge heals coming through. They get him!
[03:09:17] Just at the last second, they didn't see the Alchoo was inviss during all of that.
[03:09:24] And that tiny little bit of extra damage, the scythe reveal from the Queen of Pain.
[03:09:31] They take out the storm.
[03:09:33] And you know, if she hadn't been given in agonims, she would have built her own agonims
[03:09:40] and that scythe would not be here.
[03:09:42] So that is some of this, this Ag's gifting coming back around.
[03:09:47] It's really interesting to see.
[03:09:50] I'm still a little uncertain how good it is or not, but it's cool to see how it's
[03:09:55] tying into this game.
[03:09:57] That kill with the scythe will let you get this second rose.
[03:10:01] Spirit's actually not here.
[03:10:03] You know, Mexicans can actually just run in and do it, but they don't see enough heroes.
[03:10:06] They're not certain.
[03:10:14] Roshan.
[03:10:16] Not going down super quick here.
[03:10:18] I mean, they have a lot of Minus Armor, but it's about to switch pets.
[03:10:21] So I think, yeah, probably the right decision.
[03:10:24] Smoke up, prepare, get some vision plays bottom.
[03:10:26] That being said, Spirit already has a ward here.
[03:10:29] They've got their gems if they could scout out this ward and a little bit more vision to play around
[03:10:35] But instead they jump in have to jump down to the low ground is collapsed trying to make some space
[03:10:40] The agonist after there the gush connecting on multiple heroes. They will back away
[03:10:46] To their own high ground and just kind of wait this one out maybe
[03:10:51] There any new items coming out any big pickups for these okay, I mean that's one blink for tree and protector quite nice
[03:10:59] This is a very right-click-oriented draft on Yandex, so BKB piercing overgrowth, disarming
[03:11:07] you.
[03:11:08] Yandex come very strong, they don't really have very many dispels, so if the BKBs are
[03:11:15] already active, overgrowth is full value.
[03:11:21] Ooh, Clapshed on point.
[03:11:23] He's been tanking this whole game.
[03:11:25] He is starting to get vulnerable, right?
[03:11:27] He can be killed.
[03:11:28] Yeah, he knows his job is to be up front
[03:11:32] And this where the Ag is really helpful for Roche too, right? You can just keep gushing in that direction
[03:11:39] Yeah, I feel like Yandex realized this they've kind of spread out a little bit to start clearing out the jungle they
[03:11:45] Still have not managed to take the mid tier one tower, right?
[03:11:48] Like Tram protector has done a really good job at keeping their buildings alive and
[03:11:53] I'm just sitting there max up.
[03:11:57] Okay, the bobble for Alchemist does seem like a really good item for him.
[03:12:05] So what did he take this time?
[03:12:07] Health restoration and minus base attack time with corrosive weaponry.
[03:12:13] That's really interesting.
[03:12:14] And if he chooses to keep this at tier five, you increase that further.
[03:12:20] Yeah, I don't know what his options will be and how worth it is or not, but that's a good enchantment
[03:12:27] That's like everything you want right yeah, you don't care that you're losing intelligence. Oh
[03:12:32] No a dumber
[03:12:36] The ogre loses the intelligence
[03:12:41] You're right better for me to maintain
[03:12:50] Alright, Yakuza is finishing up a Bloodthorn.
[03:12:57] Dude, this stalemate over Ocean, it's been going on for several minutes now.
[03:13:04] It's really mis-having the shard.
[03:13:06] Yeah, both teams have to respect it, right?
[03:13:08] It's shown, depending who gets found first, that determines the rest of the fight.
[03:13:13] Oh, Yatoro would be a massive fight. Pantel, hide in the trees, they find Nostok, get the spell, they actually find him! Transcend! Without a body back, in goes Laurel!
[03:13:22] Managed to get initiation here on to them, but they don't have the follow-up damage, the BKBs that disengage.
[03:13:28] A 4v5 now.
[03:13:30] U-Toro still has Pierce the Veil available, Roshan being pulled out of the pit, Clash still has the Ravage watching Jumps and gets a spell on to two, then all five of them take out four, Clash with a five-year-old Ravage, the egg is down, the Pierce the Veil is going to take out the egg but they need help, back in comes Wilde, they take down two, no Alchemist, Churger with a BKB able to disengage, Soxa not as lucky.
[03:13:55] They turn it around, but for how long, notice T-R-Junior on the hunt.
[03:14:01] While those other guys are crushed, they get on top of the Queen of Painters, and there they get the kill.
[03:14:07] Catch the gem too.
[03:14:11] What ups and downs in that fight?
[03:14:16] First, you take out the Treant Protector, and he's a big part of this fight.
[03:14:22] He bought out for the Blades, he was really depending on the overgrowth of this arm.
[03:14:26] You find a double stun, take out two more heroes.
[03:14:31] But Tide and Moira-
[03:14:33] Moira is up.
[03:14:34] They saved their BKBs, they just launched everything at the end.
[03:14:38] And you've committed so much, up to that point you had nothing defensive left.
[03:14:42] What a crazy fight turn.
[03:14:45] I thought like, to be in these heroes, I am my last fight's cooked, but my goodness.
[03:14:49] Moira does damage.
[03:14:51] The buyback from Laurel as well is so clutch.
[03:14:56] She has the flares boated too, that's so good.
[03:15:01] Dude, while dodging this bank here is also nuts.
[03:15:05] He probably would have died if the crush or the silence hit, right?
[03:15:09] But he dodges both.
[03:15:12] Ooh, deliver yourself.
[03:15:16] Yeah, they're feeling that.
[03:15:18] The big swing to lose the Roche
[03:15:31] With this
[03:15:33] Palm spirit completed a gum scepter on his way to his 25th talent
[03:15:38] It's gonna take a little bit before he gets there
[03:15:41] But you've got a level 25 on where to that that gunslinger percentage is absolutely nuts
[03:15:48] And, you know, your Alchemist gold advantage is essentially nothing, so you are desperately
[03:15:57] trying to find some more damage on your team.
[03:16:00] Didn't mention the supports have good scaling, but the game has sort of slowed down for Yandex.
[03:16:08] You know, those supports haven't gotten as much gold as maybe they were hoping, maybe
[03:16:13] some aggs deliveries, right?
[03:16:14] That got delayed suddenly.
[03:16:18] And this Muerta, right?
[03:16:20] She's kinda like this three or four item hero
[03:16:22] before she gets really scary
[03:16:23] and she's gone to that point now.
[03:16:25] Five items, actually.
[03:16:28] They're trying to push.
[03:16:29] They have a banner.
[03:16:30] Kinda far forward.
[03:16:31] I feel like this banner can be further back.
[03:16:32] The catapult.
[03:16:33] Yeah.
[03:16:34] He's right there.
[03:16:36] Maybe it's a bait though, right?
[03:16:37] This is gonna be a banner.
[03:16:38] I was gonna kill the banner.
[03:16:40] We'll dump you.
[03:16:41] Dead and the water's onto the Marseille. They don't want to commit too far.
[03:16:46] Use the Unleashed to clean that up and back away.
[03:16:52] Jump in, wants in.
[03:16:55] Trying to look for an opening, but the water goes in.
[03:16:57] Man's trying to nudge their two heroes on the Vortex. Continue, just chip away.
[03:17:01] They don't want to over commit. They're being patient.
[03:17:03] With these ages, they get two lanes of racks now down.
[03:17:07] now down. Let's see if they can find more. I love this from Spear. They're no... A lot
[03:17:13] of times you see two heroes, blink damage or something, right? They're just chilling.
[03:17:18] They don't want to over commit. Oh, and here we go in, looking for Watson, jumps in from
[03:17:22] notice, gets the crush, and try and make some space, but the silence... Hold him
[03:17:27] at bay. Watson will barely make it back to the fountain, but that is his BKB.
[03:17:31] I might have been able to kill him if they did ravage that time, but now that he doesn't
[03:17:39] have BKB, you can, when he codes in now, you can just ravage any time you want.
[03:17:43] Yeah, that'll allow you to force this final barracks.
[03:17:47] You still have a lot of time, a minute and 40 on this Aegis, you're not even in that
[03:17:51] much of a rush.
[03:17:52] Yeah, I think you like collapse the backline now, and you let him and try to initiate
[03:17:57] with a Ravage, or like a counter-initiated,
[03:17:58] they go for a Ravage Connect onto two,
[03:18:00] while on his sliver of HP, he will finally die,
[03:18:04] but that is the Aegis only in well-rounded.
[03:18:07] Instantly dies trying to make a wraparound play,
[03:18:11] just to lead by the Muerta.
[03:18:15] The question is, can they get out,
[03:18:16] or do they want to get out?
[03:18:17] Instead, dead of the water dropped onto the Marspey,
[03:18:19] no way to get away from this one.
[03:18:22] Two dead is now Spirit,
[03:18:25] Look into force, the game number three.
[03:18:28] Double buybacks coming through.
[03:18:29] The only person behind grabs the tide.
[03:18:31] You actually have the damage to find the kills.
[03:18:32] He has a BKB still.
[03:18:33] It's a BKB.
[03:18:35] It doesn't matter.
[03:18:36] Once it's dead again, collapse.
[03:18:38] He might die.
[03:18:40] No healed, blank overgrowth onto three.
[03:18:42] Good night, Yandex.
[03:18:44] GG comes out.
[03:18:46] Bearded, burning around in this period
[03:18:49] of beautiful performance, playing their game,
[03:18:53] Combining their time until they know they're strong enough on the back of the Muerta to win these fights
[03:19:01] There's so much magic damage on the side of spirits. So once that DKB is down
[03:19:08] You'd see they felt really confident just go that high ground Watson tries to do the ramp round
[03:19:13] You'll find that squishy backline and keep it light
[03:19:16] You Toro did three thousand damage to him in two seconds
[03:19:19] Like, without the BKB, you are getting deleted.
[03:19:23] You buy a bag you go and you still don't have it.
[03:19:25] I still got magic damage. I'll just kill you again!
[03:19:27] This is, I mean, this is the refresher change, right?
[03:19:29] Like, if, if Fnall saw this game in the past,
[03:19:32] he would not give the eggs.
[03:19:34] He would just buy BKB, give refresher, have two to work with,
[03:19:37] and then you have a different situation there.
[03:19:41] Dude, he had so much bonus damage on Pierce the Veil at the end of the game as well.
[03:19:45] Uh, that was the other thing.
[03:19:46] It's like, you know, how much damage do you actually get out of this, you know, new innate the rework on it turns out if you go
[03:19:54] Well, 11 and two or something. I have to find a spoiler. Yeah, 11 and two with eight of this being involved in a lot of these late game kills
[03:20:01] It's a lot of damage
[03:20:04] Have to question it man, I love this ads idea. I'm not writing it off just based off this one game
[03:20:11] I I feel that top lane
[03:20:13] really went well for Spirit. That really slowed down the Alps. He could have had the
[03:20:18] Radiance Tuner, he gets the X-Tuner, and there were also plays like this that were really close
[03:20:23] that even with the way the game started, Yondex had moments to win this fight,
[03:20:28] but some really clutch moments from Spirit, some fast BKB reactions, playing around their
[03:20:34] opponents BKBs, they were very smart about the fights, moments like that where you're
[03:20:39] you're dodging the funds. The first David from Yandex is great, but you got to get there
[03:20:44] and actually hit the target. From a 10,000 gold advantage for Yandex to a win for Team
[03:20:51] Spirit. What a game. We're going to send it back to our desk. They can break it down
[03:20:56] just a little bit further. Thank you very much. Yes, indeed. It is now tied up in
[03:21:03] series as we hoped it would be
[03:21:08] team spirit coming back massively
[03:21:11] here in game number two, but it
[03:21:13] didn't always look that way. It
[03:21:15] was looking pretty clean for
[03:21:16] yandex to start with. She goes.
[03:21:19] Yeah, I mean, they were able to
[03:21:20] utilize some of their kind of
[03:21:22] like windows of aggression,
[03:21:23] right? Be it through the
[03:21:24] queen of pain of the eggs
[03:21:26] naturally on his Marcy wanting
[03:21:27] to go and make them happen
[03:21:29] early. They're going to
[03:21:30] start off but they always
[03:21:31] have to deal with this
[03:21:32] on the tidehunter right like when they spoke about it at the tail end of the cast they're like the idea of like how chill his lane was and the entire game just because like a water melon like if he's there
[03:21:41] Try and dodge him gotta go around him and yeah that alone was enough for everything continues for it to pretty much come alive
[03:21:48] Winter, what was your biggest takeaway from this game?
[03:21:54] Most likely, Yandex overvaluing the elk here because they saw the tide.
[03:21:59] I think the 16-17 with the elk kind of was a little bit of a disrespect because elk
[03:22:04] doesn't really lean that well into the tide in my opinion and obviously you can also
[03:22:08] add the fact that Panto rotated over I think around 4-5 minutes he got a kill on
[03:22:14] the elk early in the early game and not to mention the tide also got first blood right
[03:22:18] so there's a lot of things that went really well for Tide
[03:22:21] Yeah, but overall I still felt like it was a little bit of an oversight for Yandex like
[03:22:25] picking the elk into the tide there they needed to pick something to shut him down
[03:22:29] because the tide was he was an unkillable object the whole game even until did they
[03:22:33] even kill him with the sealage I don't think so right no 30 minutes into the game
[03:22:39] but just couldn't kill him I mean we've collapsed in the battle right like 93
[03:22:43] I think in the end, he did more like 9000 more damage than the Alchemist, right?
[03:22:50] And like sure, like Tide has a good matchup in regards to his farm.
[03:22:55] I was expecting like if you are picking Alchemist, there's like a bigger game plan in place of Yandex, right?
[03:23:00] Like you are just playing on this like shove wave farm the camp behind you, have the medium camp, get the ags, go go go.
[03:23:05] But everything just felt too sluggish from Yandex.
[03:23:09] like there was a deal with something to do with the build that's on the tide because you have to wrap so the wrap kind of made the tide also very very strong in the game.
[03:23:18] No, for sure. Like the additional items getting introduced where it's like you've got the show which is so cheap for 10% magic resistance. You didn't have the wrap as well to like stand your ground. You've got shevers giving you armor.
[03:23:28] early. Yeah, obviously in hindsight, Tide just looks like such a free game for him and Yandex
[03:23:34] are kind of counterpicking themselves. But you have to give credit where Yandex like they
[03:23:37] at least were trying to create little these moments. Like because of the ice gift to the
[03:23:41] cops, she got a hex really early. That hex actually allowed them to kill Lala a couple
[03:23:45] times, turning the game around. But yeah, Alchemist is always just a weird hero. If
[03:23:49] you don't have four, 5000 gold lead, if you're not always buying another item
[03:23:53] to break your opponent. You always will like damage or kind of be tanky, but never kidding.
[03:23:59] And that's exactly what happened for Watson pretty much.
[03:24:01] And ends up all falling apart for him. And one of those key moments I wanted to highlight
[03:24:06] you here in this last game. Sorry, second game, one of the big turnaround points to this
[03:24:11] game was in that middle fight. So let's have a look at this clip here and see how
[03:24:17] this one exactly went down. And I want to just take it nice and slow here. Look
[03:24:20] Look at the reactions on your turtle. I know, I know he's good. We know he's good. We know he can dodge a BKBL too, but look at that. Absolutely. Frame perfect stuff.
[03:24:29] It doesn't get better than that. No, of course, yeah. Like Panto, he was a little sacrificial lamb on the train protector. Like he, he walked up in the infidelity, kind of gave vision for your Toro.
[03:24:38] Toro, but he's leaving it to like, I'm only pressing this when I know I need to. Like he's not
[03:24:43] preemptively doing it, other players there, they've already been like a second juicer to the VKB
[03:24:48] as you saw the heroes, but no, he waited every little bit he couldn't. Yeah, I think the spirit,
[03:24:54] the way that they took Queen's fight into, why they are throughout this game. Of course,
[03:24:59] this time around, it was a bit of a spooky one, right? You know, Lyle instantly getting blown
[03:25:03] up, you're like, oh my god, can the Andex do it? But then Collapse comes in with like the
[03:25:07] beautiful five man ravaged this beam of large five act utilizing that tier one
[03:25:11] power in the mid lane that has not been taken by Yandex a major reason why Yandex
[03:25:15] was able to beat spirit in the previous game was how quickly they broke down the
[03:25:19] map having a tier one power still open at this stage of the game really was a
[03:25:22] was a oof form so yeah Yandex just the struggling there in spirit I mean
[03:25:28] we're gonna keep saying time after time and time again but yeah yeah this was
[03:25:31] MVP of the game MVP of the draft everything he did pretty much enabled
[03:25:36] everyone else to shine.
[03:25:37] Yeah, look fantastic.
[03:25:39] I did want to prove you that one weird thing we saw in this game though, the alchemist
[03:25:42] buying the agonimceptor winter, what's your take on that one?
[03:25:45] It's hard to say though, that was something that I didn't really expect, maybe it's something
[03:25:50] to do with the patch or not, but I thought I just didn't really give them enough advantage.
[03:25:56] Like the co-op, like he got the axe ready, but I just didn't really feel like they
[03:25:59] were able to do too much with the axe, because the fight was such a huge problem.
[03:26:04] I think maybe if the early game didn't go so well for the Tyche, he didn't get that first bird.
[03:26:09] And then the QOP didn't get to link that one.
[03:26:11] It might have been a different game, but overall I felt like it wasn't worth it for them to actually pull that axe onto the QOP that early on.
[03:26:19] I would have maybe rather preferred to see out, just get his core items quickly, get the silver edge quickly, so you can actually have a way to kill the Tyche.
[03:26:26] Hmm, do you agree with that take-off?
[03:26:28] This is a type of like item build that like in a different game will be praising it because the quap would be ag stuff take better fights and maybe they'd have killed away from the tidehunter.
[03:26:39] But I think I think the essence of giving an axe is will always be good depending on what heroes are to receive them like we're to pay make sense.
[03:26:48] I don't know if this is like a reason for like gold generation. I don't know if he's buying the axe because of the patch and going oh wow I want more economy.
[03:26:54] I kind of just feel like this was their read on the game that like I want to get my crop to the next round of items
[03:26:59] But if pop has to buy by herself kaiosange and then a hex and a bkb
[03:27:04] She's never gonna get into the game. It's a too much gold
[03:27:06] So I think this may be them understanding that we need to break the game as early as possible
[03:27:10] Our queen can't farm that quick. So let's just try and help her out
[03:27:13] But like that's our main way of doing it. So it could have just been like a draft read rather than like a patch adaptation
[03:27:18] But yeah, I think winter is kind of walking down the right line that it didn't feel as explosive
[03:27:23] as it could have been in this game. And I think Alc maybe being a bit more of a main character
[03:27:29] could have helped this time around. And maybe Landex had a slightly wrong read on it, but
[03:27:33] I think the concept of it is still good just in this game. It didn't really shine.
[03:27:38] Yeah. Yeah. You just got to wonder, could they have rolled the game with a slightly
[03:27:41] earlier timing than their Archimests? We don't know and we will never know. But what
[03:27:45] we do know is that a series is now a one one, which means we get to go to a third
[03:27:49] decided a game here, the ESL on Birmingham upper brackets. So let's jump over to the short break
[03:27:54] and then we're back to find out who's going to win between team spirit and team. Yeah,
[03:27:58] that's in this upper bracket match.
[03:28:19] I don't know where I'm going.
[03:28:49] But I know I'll get there
[03:29:00] I've earned these feelings
[03:29:08] The journey comes in handy
[03:29:14] Try to guide to the world, maybe
[03:29:18] I won't write just to love the girl
[03:29:22] Try to guide to the world, maybe
[03:29:26] These two parts got me further away
[03:29:30] From the end of the world
[03:29:38] He is running, oh, he is running
[03:29:44] Oh, the vagrant in disguise
[03:29:55] I keep on getting hard
[03:29:59] Run it ever comes
[03:30:07] Run it this time around
[03:30:17] Drive all night to the oblivion
[03:30:21] I'm on my stress to run the bed
[03:30:25] And drive all night to a new beginning
[03:30:29] These street lights guide me further
[03:30:33] Through the underworld, through the warrior
[03:30:37] Through the underworld
[03:30:41] He keeps running, he keeps running
[03:30:44] Oh, he keeps running
[03:30:47] Oh
[03:30:50] I don't know where I'm going
[03:30:54] I'll give all of my soul to the light, to the world living
[03:31:08] I'll give all of my soul to the light, to the world living
[03:31:16] The streetlights are hiding further
[03:31:20] To the water, to the water, to the water
[03:31:28] It keeps smiling, oh, it keeps smiling
[03:31:46] We are living in a dream
[03:31:53] Everyone we know is under cover
[03:31:56] We're not going to see
[03:31:58] We have a good joke with the sky
[03:32:02] One we know may have
[03:32:04] Never let ourselves get so high
[03:32:10] It's so fine
[03:32:20] It's fine
[03:32:25] It's fine
[03:32:40] We are living on a spark
[03:32:44] Smoke and cigarettes are burning in and out of every car
[03:32:49] We are the sun that's on the rise
[03:32:53] Our internal soul is turning out here and now so high
[03:33:01] And so high
[03:33:05] And so high
[03:33:09] Castor and Sky
[03:33:14] Castor and Sky
[03:33:19] Castor and Sky
[03:33:23] We see through
[03:33:29] Sky
[03:33:32] Castor and Sky
[03:34:09] I can't stop
[03:34:15] I can't stop
[03:34:26] You asked me why I'm always waiting for the day
[03:34:33] You know it doesn't really matter
[03:34:39] You won't break me out of my side as you
[03:34:46] Don't worry, look we'll have a start
[03:34:53] There is one thing that I've overrun
[03:35:00] Life feels like a wheel and it's feeling a little worse
[03:36:05] When the dead god swattered a monastery, one angry acolyte survived the anti-mage.
[03:36:19] He swore to eradicate all magic, leaving a blood-soaked path in his wake.
[03:36:24] But even a path of endless vengeance leads somewhere.
[03:36:28] And for the anti-mage, it led straight to her.
[03:36:31] You voted for Wei, but to understand the apprentice, we must first know the mentor, entails from
[03:36:38] the lorekeeper.
[03:36:39] Wei, part one, brought to you by DHL.
[03:36:44] Watson's Beastmaster destroyed game number one, collapses Tidehunter, ravaged through
[03:36:50] game number two.
[03:36:52] Who will be standing up above the resting game number three?
[03:36:56] That is what we're going to find out.
[03:36:58] Uh, good and completely arbitrary. Uh, T. Governor, give me a player and hero who's
[03:37:02] going to take off this game before you've seen anything else. Shut your eyes. Don't
[03:37:05] look at that. Oh, oh, uh, it's going to be a
[03:37:13] room. Heard wooing. Yeah.
[03:37:16] We're going to dominate this game. Okay. Nice. All right.
[03:37:20] Absolute annihilation. Yeah.
[03:37:22] That wasn't for the weakest combination I could have given you.
[03:37:25] Yeah, well
[03:37:31] I see I see there is a blitz. That's a resemblance. It's just something very comforting about this mustache and sexy just fits him so well
[03:37:36] I'm a big fan
[03:37:38] The fact that he can put it off. It is truly just exceptional like yeah a mustache on a man really is just hit on this
[03:37:45] There's no in between you can't actually rock a mustache. Yeah, yeah
[03:37:49] Yeah, how long you would take me to go mustache?
[03:37:52] But I would love to see it winter like a glorious wise long mustache on you look so hard
[03:38:00] The thing is though, that's your problem with this. You don't have the can-do attitude
[03:38:05] You're thinking about the path to get you need to lock it
[03:38:08] Stop growing it stop saying it's gonna be, you know two to three years
[03:38:13] Begin the two to three years and let's see it. It's always the wife, you know, somebody down there
[03:38:19] Ah, yeah, that's true
[03:38:21] every time when you when you're going for a fresh shave and then you go maybe this and then you always get shut down into my
[03:38:28] Never on board my one bitch. I got I got like a polite reminder like you probably shouldn't do it
[03:38:35] Yeah, he's the facial house. All right
[03:38:39] Fair play yes boss
[03:38:41] All right, yeah next whipping out the shadow demon to start off this draft any interesting bands coming out here
[03:38:47] while Triant, Doom, Tidehunter will take them out of the pool, so we'll be seeing any of them.
[03:38:53] We're going to get the Shadow Demon and first is the Huck.
[03:38:57] Play your options, talk about it, Winzer. Which one? Which one? What do you want to chat about?
[03:39:02] Well, I was telling you about how both games, the team on the first big site, won the game.
[03:39:07] Maybe that's something to that, you know. It's easier to be on the first big site,
[03:39:11] easier to plan the drafter on it, and they also got Shadow Demon in the first game. Yeah,
[03:39:17] They got charity man on the first game
[03:39:20] But pop is kind of like I feel like also one of the better response and it's as you don't really do anything as SD
[03:39:30] It's kind of like a kind of a free game right and in that match, but of course like down the line
[03:39:35] You have to look towards it. I think it also helps like when you pick up there's multiple things or conditions
[03:39:40] You're looking for it's what's your mid lane matchup are there?
[03:39:43] You know the huskars the void spirits like them like the heroes that I ever just outstretched me or bully me
[03:39:47] Yeah, how bad is enough to husk are it? Can you still do that? It's tough
[03:39:53] Hmm, I mean I would never will see with a husk are player so I off the top of my head
[03:39:58] I wouldn't be able to give you an instant gut read, but I would argue
[03:40:03] Surely you still can bully right because burning spears
[03:40:06] going from 4% current to 2% max, I'd like to think, is still fine for him to be able to do that bullying.
[03:40:13] Cauterize is now basically your shard, so you're eventually going to get to the silly...
[03:40:17] That's probably the bigger deal, right? Not having Cauterize from the start.
[03:40:22] Yeah, like Cauterize is always really good, right? You're just getting that extra little bit of like,
[03:40:26] like region life to just spell, like, it was just too good for Huskar.
[03:40:30] for Huskar. Like Huskar has always kind of been the hero that you want to, you know, just
[03:40:35] count to pick up, literate someone, unless you're maybe like, you know, Falcons on mouse
[03:40:39] where you just first pick it and just play the game. But yeah, Fortarius was too silly.
[03:40:44] Yeah, Spirit, they are so confident in this part, but they also aren't, you know, banning
[03:40:50] out any of the kind of the old school counties to him, just kind of letting them all through
[03:40:55] the pool.
[03:40:56] Again, it might just be a product of SD, right? Like a four position SD doesn't rotate to mid lane and kill a puck, right?
[03:41:02] Like that lack of pressure might be enough for spirit to...
[03:41:05] I'm definitely also thinking about whether against the puck, right?
[03:41:08] You should move the SD to a five because I know Melody plays it, and then you pick a hex position for him that can kill the puck.
[03:41:16] Shaman or the lion, something to do with him.
[03:41:19] So that is always a good option, right?
[03:41:21] I think
[03:41:22] Like if you hard keep the SD in four and the experience would be happy for the entire draft
[03:41:27] So no, I do agree with you like the ability to change it up will be bring me to your home for
[03:41:31] They have done it before that's good against pump as the issue
[03:41:36] That's a good that's a good state now. I kind of want to see if I can find one maybe jacquero like
[03:41:41] What can you do pick on a five days from?
[03:41:45] Clunkey for sure
[03:41:48] No, I remember one here silencer
[03:41:51] Ah, we get it, I was like, disruptor, can he go?
[03:41:55] Disruptor is just, it's not as good, it's on paper, maybe you think that you can make
[03:42:00] it work with the static, it's just no good, man.
[03:42:04] I love the fact that when you said about no fight, I looked at the hero list, I'm looking
[03:42:08] from left to right, I look at Night Stalker and go, I've seen a time with a Night Stalker
[03:42:12] 5 with a thing, but I thought it's a, anything with silence, right, is maybe it's a spirit,
[03:42:19] they look in the DK.
[03:42:21] All right, so just puck and DK.
[03:42:23] Opening drafts, of course, DK is kind of a soft cover
[03:42:26] for the puck, but just too very kind of robust.
[03:42:29] So it's DK, okay, into the SD right now
[03:42:32] because of the nerf, but there's no more promogate, faster.
[03:42:37] Yeah, we saw this on game one,
[03:42:40] but all these big tanky heroes are suddenly okay
[03:42:42] versus the SD again, of course.
[03:42:45] The agonims break kind of annoying for the DK,
[03:42:47] That will be a while, let's come out.
[03:42:49] Yeah, but the Jakiro is back.
[03:42:51] This is the hero that's great, always loses to...
[03:42:54] He's back!
[03:42:55] Oh no!
[03:42:56] And their first pick.
[03:42:58] Winter.
[03:42:59] It's first pick and Jakiro.
[03:43:02] The stars are aligning for Yandex.
[03:43:04] Yeah.
[03:43:06] And then looking...
[03:43:07] Pretty sure you picked...
[03:43:08] You just picked Underlord.
[03:43:09] Yeah, Underlord is like so good against these two heirs, DK and...
[03:43:14] Almost the same draft name.
[03:43:16] They also picked Void, it was the first 3 heroes, it was also Void, Jikiro and Sheridan in the first game.
[03:43:23] I mean I feel like the Andalus is definitely coming at 18.
[03:43:28] You need to be very mindful right, the reason why Andalus is good of course is the damage that Puck and DK bring.
[03:43:35] They are somewhat locked behind items right, like DK you want to get to Armlet plus 1, you want your Pucks to have Witchblade.
[03:43:42] blade to then start to thinking about how you can solo kill heroes and with Yandex you've
[03:43:47] got to cure an extra quite tanky five got SD with destruction voids for it you know of
[03:43:51] course again the barrier type is different but still barrier nonetheless so yeah Yandex
[03:43:57] will be looking to just kind of punish spirits kind of need to scale into the game. I respect
[03:44:02] the fact that they go for the warlock right just to try and maximize the farm of their
[03:44:07] safe lane like get him to the item as quick as possible but you are still inviting
[03:44:11] this underlord right like it's i buy pipe crimson and my team will never care it's yeah it really does
[03:44:18] feel like a kind of like a free beefy andix i think you feel like they are pressured to kick
[03:44:23] the underlord themselves like what what can they actually do here you know i feel it's like
[03:44:27] they already banned the team so there's like literally nothing from the opposing
[03:44:31] off lane you can pick the counter underlord i think it's only timber like from off lane
[03:44:36] against underlot. Now that everything is good I feel like it's just so hard like if underlot
[03:44:41] shows here it's I don't know I think based on draft it's just already sold the vehicle for spirit.
[03:44:47] No I agree I'm very much on this train winter. I'm I too am on board some of the last carriage but
[03:44:54] I'm there. Oh okay sorry I don't want to do carriages and trains it's kind of scary you
[03:44:58] You know, he's here in the the outside of the air.
[03:45:02] Yeah, it makes me feel alive.
[03:45:04] Yeah.
[03:45:06] Is this not a really abusable backline on the side of Team Spirit?
[03:45:11] I mean, any any fight formation of a team where there
[03:45:15] stuns are a bit lackluster will always be punishable.
[03:45:18] Right. Like you've got coil, drag and tell.
[03:45:20] Who are the men?
[03:45:23] Also true. Very, very big team fight.
[03:45:25] But like you said, voice.
[03:45:27] can definitely disrupt the formation are you just jumping yeah if you have acts that will be great
[03:45:31] you know in silence you kill the backliners with the vessel and acts yeah we also saw ATF or Amal
[03:45:40] play voice for it like Skadi in like way down the line but that could be a thing as well where it's
[03:45:45] like the voice for it just gets tankier and tankier and then he's playing Skadi's and jumping and
[03:45:50] and it all he has to do is if he eats one Gollum, one coil,
[03:45:55] I mean, how does Spirits actually keep people in place?
[03:45:58] I really feel like Voice Spirit will become the conductor
[03:46:01] of a lot of these engagements,
[03:46:02] but yeah, he might die a couple of times,
[03:46:04] but his death will open up everyone else to thrive,
[03:46:06] and we're talking about how awkward it is for Spirits
[03:46:08] to lock a hero down.
[03:46:09] Why not get an Ursa?
[03:46:11] Has in rage, and he also will happily jump in
[03:46:13] soaking up these really kind of critical spells of Spirits.
[03:46:17] So yeah, I think the Andex are gonna be pretty happy,
[03:46:19] And now it's kind of the battle of the offlaners right as you move into the line last phase of the drafts
[03:46:23] Like both offlaners really need to make a statement
[03:46:26] But why did they actually took so much time to just pick the Ursa instead of the Underlight?
[03:46:31] Do they actually just feel like there's no other carry they can pick here
[03:46:34] That's why they decided to pick the Ursa they're worried that the carry picks got they're gonna all get banned in the last phase
[03:46:41] Yeah, it could be a matter of like, you know, what what carry do we want to play into them and like maybe Watson said
[03:46:47] And this is my hero, I need it, maybe he just took over the authority, and you already said
[03:46:54] that if there's enough off ladies in the pool, maybe no test, it doesn't really care what
[03:46:59] he plays.
[03:47:00] In this pick position, normally, obviously when we're analyzing, it's very easy to
[03:47:04] be like, they need this and that and that, but all it takes is one player to be very
[03:47:08] vocal.
[03:47:09] I don't want to say wine, but maybe louder than the rest.
[03:47:13] No, maybe it wasn't just cried on microquake, but again to reiterate, I think spirit is
[03:47:24] kind of normal right?
[03:47:26] Every team has someone that has a little bit more control on the draft, it's not very
[03:47:32] normal.
[03:47:33] Yeah, I don't ever mean it in a bad way, I'm just, it's just how the comp is winding
[03:47:39] slow.
[03:47:40] Good winding.
[03:47:41] Spirit just need a simple like addition to the lockdown, right?
[03:47:47] I feel like putting a lot of pressure on DK to be like the cheapest stun in their drafts quite a lot.
[03:47:52] So I wouldn't mind if that offlaner also complimented them because if it is only the DK outside of the ultimates of the Puck and Warlock,
[03:48:00] then I just feel like they're going to walk into some problems, right?
[03:48:03] It really is going to be like a cooldown based fight.
[03:48:05] Yeah, probably going to need some cheap stuns like maybe Slardar or something.
[03:48:08] Sometimes a lot of stuns to help them fight.
[03:48:11] Nice.
[03:48:12] You can do it.
[03:48:15] Oh, that's a sense of sense.
[03:48:19] They did actually find Nightstalker.
[03:48:23] I think it's a really cool band, right?
[03:48:24] Like, it's about, like,
[03:48:26] counters the puck, joking about Nightstalker 5.
[03:48:29] But like, how the drafters set up,
[03:48:31] like, the vision that Nightstalker would apply with us,
[03:48:34] a voice for a jumping, it would have been a disgusting pick.
[03:48:37] So fair play.
[03:48:38] And then there's the underworld.
[03:48:39] And there's the underworld.
[03:48:40] Yeah, that was inevitable. So I have to dig a little deep here. No tide, no underlords, no doom, not a whole lot left, really.
[03:48:50] What are they going to grab on the Yandex?
[03:48:56] I mean, really a lot of offlanders left in the pool.
[03:48:59] They could just go like a personal back or just a dude that just walks in and soaks up the fight, right?
[03:49:05] Okay, actually take the slathering themselves.
[03:49:07] Okay, taking that side is really strong and then show Dima as well as a scary ass thing.
[03:49:14] Everything that happens on the map for Yandex is so simple now, right?
[03:49:20] Any of the cores will set up a fight and then when one core goes in, the other cores
[03:49:24] will pounce on that initiation, but all three can do the same job, provide information
[03:49:28] for other people.
[03:49:29] So just a really robust lineup for Yandex, like you can't really fault it.
[03:49:33] They have good lanes, clear item paths, and they can contest every objective.
[03:49:38] You could argue maybe that taking K3s and buildings is behind them having to kill heroes.
[03:49:43] They can't just do it in a clean way.
[03:49:46] But yeah, everything on map play is secured by them.
[03:49:51] Very good sightings.
[03:49:52] Like Shadow the Oncelot, JQ also.
[03:49:55] The early game is going to go really well for you.
[03:49:59] I feel like it's so difficult to play this last hero in the first period. They're gonna take the BB here. They have Cottle or Cottle BB.
[03:50:07] But everybody needs to farm so much. You have a BB off lane. You have a DK carry. You have a Park Mid.
[03:50:13] Everybody just needs so much time to farm and you have two supports that are ranged. There's no melee support like the Toss that can roam and play the early game.
[03:50:22] So everything is so slow, you know, they are so dependent on the lanes going well.
[03:50:27] The lanes just go a little bit worse for Spirit.
[03:50:30] I think this is going to be a quick 2-1, you know, for Yandex.
[03:50:33] Yeah, I kind of agree on that front.
[03:50:36] It's just kind of funny, right?
[03:50:37] You're talking about Slardom, I'm talking about Bristleback for Yandex, and then
[03:50:40] suddenly it's the other way around.
[03:50:42] That was pretty good, but no, I fully agree with Winter, like, Spirit's lineup
[03:50:48] is about laning phase efficiencies into just getting the item as quick as possible.
[03:50:53] Because for Yandex, if you don't pressure them, they are going to make all the moves.
[03:50:57] Like, you're pretty much playing for Yandex to make a mistake before Spirit feels happy.
[03:51:02] Now, that's kind of like quite a scary prospect at the end of a draft, but of course, Spirit,
[03:51:06] they can create these moments.
[03:51:08] Of course, Bristleback, he'll be up the frontline and kind of eat a lot of that initiation
[03:51:12] from Yandex. If he can absorb the initial blow, then you'll have the correct jump
[03:51:17] from a DK, the correct golem from a Warlock, right? So I think Palapse just has to make sure
[03:51:22] he itemizes perfectly to be this tanky frontline for his team.
[03:51:26] Yeah. I mean, Yandex is just going to be seeking to just blow apart these fights every time,
[03:51:30] you know, break it down into skirmishes, not let Team Spirit get up into their full
[03:51:34] five man strength because they are the better like full on five team. But Yandex, they've
[03:51:41] got really strong lanes, really strong early game. I am pretty scared for Team Spirit.
[03:51:45] I'm not gonna lie, I really like what Yandex has put down, so yeah, wins her final thoughts.
[03:51:51] Yeah, I think I'm just gonna stick with Yandex here. I think it's gonna be harder for straight,
[03:51:55] like, ease of execution wise. I think Yandex has the easier to execute draft.
[03:52:00] Alrighty then, that's gonna be it from us. Let's head over to our casting at GF,
[03:52:05] our cryptic, and Z-Quick as we jump into game number three.
[03:52:09] Thank you guys, we are ready for game three and it is a sort of an exciting one if the
[03:52:16] previous two games are going to tell us anything, we've seen some pretty stellar performances
[03:52:21] from both these teams so far, but which team it comes out the winner here continues to advance
[03:52:26] in that upper bracket and which team, you know, drops below a bracket.
[03:52:30] What is this weed?
[03:52:31] Smoking right into them.
[03:52:33] How do they know about this actually?
[03:52:35] They're just hiding on the top corner of the map here.
[03:52:38] Yeah, this is some studying up.
[03:52:43] This would be a ridiculous gank if they happen to find their target.
[03:52:47] So, they've been talking a little bit about it, right?
[03:52:50] The panel, you know, mentioning kind of the strengths of some of these different heroes.
[03:52:55] Dragonite seems to be one of the biggest winners of the patch, at least in my eyes.
[03:53:02] does that outscale the Ursa right the bear assassin is what to call we'll see
[03:53:08] a disruption here really quick but not gonna look for anything yeah shadow
[03:53:15] demon used to be pretty good at dealing with the dragon I just cuz he gets so
[03:53:20] tanky and you just take off a huge chunk of his health you still have that
[03:53:24] increased damage which is nice in the control but does help out dragonite in
[03:53:30] in general. I also think that we've had two games in a row where the safe lane for one
[03:53:35] of the teams crumbled and can't really crumble with the Dragonite Warlock. Maybe that's the
[03:53:41] ticket you need. Though on the other side you got Ursa Jakiro. That is equally scary.
[03:53:47] Neither team wants that mistake to happen again in game three.
[03:53:52] I love how last patch was just Puck Void Spirit midmatch ups and we're so back to Puck Void
[03:54:01] Spirit match ups.
[03:54:02] Two Void HP carriers.
[03:54:03] That wasn't big.
[03:54:04] You would have denied the items and then that is creep drag.
[03:54:10] Lost a lot of health for that attempt.
[03:54:13] Though I guess the fact is that the fact that they want to be creep dragging already,
[03:54:19] I mean, you know, you don't really want to lane that much.
[03:54:21] I say, as they take off half of Panto's health, it's horribly distracted, right? The creep waves onto the tower.
[03:54:27] Are they gonna do this?
[03:54:29] I mean, it looks like it's been done first blood top lane here for notice.
[03:54:35] Talks to Shadow Demon. They banned it in game two and we're like, eh, it's a pretty worthwhile ban.
[03:54:40] He might be one of the better Shadow Demons out there and he does it again.
[03:54:44] Take notes, guys.
[03:54:45] Put that sentry down, lose half your health at the tower, try to get couriers, and then kill the enemy support.
[03:54:50] So simple, it's just that easy. I did not think we'd see the kill there. I really
[03:55:00] thought Warlock right in that lane would just spam the fatal bonds, spam the heal,
[03:55:06] you would just trade farm here. That's probably what's gonna happen going forward
[03:55:10] but they at least managed to find one kill. I think this matchup in mid is
[03:55:16] probably better for Void Spirit than it was in the last patch.
[03:55:21] Puckish got changed, rebounced along with a lot of other things,
[03:55:25] until Puck has 1,000 health and mana,
[03:55:30] it's worse than it used to be, because it used to have a flat value of 10.
[03:55:36] So the early start here is worse,
[03:55:39] and that should help Void Spirit even more.
[03:55:41] Who already was a little bit favored at this point, I would say.
[03:55:46] It's still going to come down to a skill based matchup though I think for this Void-Screwverse
[03:55:53] puck.
[03:55:54] It's kind of a race-to-level fix.
[03:55:57] I mean, for the most part, cheer, Junior.
[03:56:01] He's got plenty of regen to play around.
[03:56:04] Do we think there's going to be any rotations into the mid lane?
[03:56:07] Like any of these teams going to be doing it?
[03:56:08] I guess Shadowed even potentially would be the one to look out for, but...
[03:56:14] You can try.
[03:56:15] I mean you'll go for the runes right it's kind of hard to force a kill like you have two elusive mid laners and any of
[03:56:21] The most awkward ganking supports out there possible for a like jikiro is slow with slow abilities
[03:56:28] Disruption is an awkward setup. It'll kind of work with remnant if you want to try on the other side
[03:56:32] You got warlock and coddle. I imagine there's more stacking rather than
[03:56:37] Trying to gank, you know to get them online faster so they get the items they need to gank themselves
[03:56:45] Not as easy to have a setup here in this Shadow Demon lane as it was with the Underlord, but
[03:56:58] they are still just kind of forcing it, getting a little bit of farm.
[03:57:03] These are the rotation for the water runes are coming, some stacks.
[03:57:05] He's actually got his cur...
[03:57:06] Well, let's say he did, but nice silence from Laurel.
[03:57:12] Let's see where Dragonite will end up, because he kind of revered to old Dragonite where
[03:57:23] the ult scales with a different corrosive fire than Frost.
[03:57:31] But now Worms Wrath just has AoE bonus, so I've seen some people do the build Yatoro
[03:57:36] seems to be doing right now, which is like point and breathe fire, one in Worms Wrath
[03:57:41] for the farming, and then 25 AoE is small, but it's kind of enough for jungle camps.
[03:57:46] But we saw Aume do one where he completely ignored Breedfire, maxed out Wyrm's Wrath,
[03:57:52] went into stat, right, a little bit more farm heavy, hard carry type build.
[03:57:57] It does seem to be one of the heroes, kind of, yeah.
[03:58:02] Dragonite does seem to be one of the heroes who was, who won from the patch.
[03:58:08] Some people lost their facets, some got some of them.
[03:58:11] He's like, yeah, I'll just take a little bit of everything.
[03:58:14] Yeah, and then there's some heroes,
[03:58:15] I wasn't going to name any in particular,
[03:58:16] who had no fastest, got nothing in the new patch
[03:58:21] and then actually got nerfed on top of it.
[03:58:23] I can't imagine who that would have been, but, you know.
[03:58:27] Unlucky.
[03:58:28] Clap, is it Bristleback?
[03:58:30] You doubt it, Bristleback's actually
[03:58:31] a pretty decent spot.
[03:58:34] But mostly because of the raft, which are just OP.
[03:58:38] Nice kill in the bottom lane.
[03:58:39] We kind of knew this was not going to go super well for the Bristol.
[03:58:43] He's kind of weak in the early levels.
[03:58:45] You have Ursa, Jekiro, right, an incredibly strong lane.
[03:58:52] Yeah, some extra Quill sprays with the Chalker magic,
[03:58:56] but I think in the end you're still thinking about those double stacks,
[03:58:59] thinking about farming up.
[03:59:01] Like the panel mentioned, it's a bit of a slow line-up for Spirit.
[03:59:04] Like, you come, you give a little bit of mana, here you go, Laurel.
[03:59:06] I'm going to go stack now.
[03:59:09] nice regen for the void spirit yeah I'll be very happy to have that now they know
[03:59:24] stats are getting made looks like he's heading over he might just try to steal
[03:59:27] it with the jikiro dude what they someone ping them I don't know if they're
[03:59:34] like pretending like they didn't, but yeah, Malady is back here. Rue. I'm just gonna stand
[03:59:42] on top of the jikiro, make sure he doesn't just, you know, just feel all this for free.
[03:59:47] Laurel will be the one coming over and dropping the coil. Man, should have plenty of damage
[03:59:52] to finish the job. Malady's making them work for it, though. They drags them back
[03:59:59] back to their own half of the map, right? So you miss out on some lane time.
[04:00:02] I think they can find the ward. They know he's this far back, so he's got to have something
[04:00:07] here. Yeah, they can't... Oh, they actually don't get the stacking time. So with this
[04:00:15] little bit of space being made, they do get the ward at the end of the day, so all
[04:00:21] worth it for our spirit. They protect their own wisdom shrine. A much slower start to
[04:00:26] the lanes compared to what we've seen in the last couple of games right like one
[04:00:30] of the teams was snowballing finding lots of kills this time pretty even
[04:00:35] overall in terms of you know kills but CSY is going in favor of Yondex slowly
[04:00:42] but surely
[04:00:46] you know though I feel spirit they protected their stack that the boys
[04:00:50] here were trying to steal I guess Kotlin they're getting a lot of it with the
[04:00:53] Last so maybe you wanted it to a core, but at least it wasn't stolen away
[04:00:57] And that's also like the power room ultimately doesn't get you that much on the side of y'all deck
[04:01:01] So like you said a slower start
[04:01:06] Jump top lane disruption here. They do have a lot of damage dropping to the athoroh and with this dragon
[04:01:13] They should pat the back and forth of the tree nowhere to go
[04:01:17] Good use of the level six. I'm in a great rotation in from Malady as well
[04:01:23] Oh, it cost him some mana. Still got liquid fire, so...
[04:01:27] Getting a lot of tower damage in here.
[04:01:30] And this is something you want to avoid. Like, if you are a slower lineup that needs the farm items,
[04:01:37] the more tier ones you have, the more space you have.
[04:01:40] The more access to farm you have. You've got to defend it.
[04:01:42] The coil's gonna connect. Puck can go in.
[04:01:45] The quest is gonna actually find the kill on...
[04:01:48] to notice it doesn't look like it is that it's just going to be your Toro looking for stocks a lot
[04:01:54] Bring him low but not enough to kill him and now they turn around looking for the Dragon Knight notice me so much
[04:02:00] There's pure junior
[04:02:02] Collapsing on the other side. They get rude. It's a three for one top
[04:02:09] And they've got the war to start out in Laurel it needs to be careful
[04:02:14] You don't have enough heroes nearby, so they'll let him go, but that should now be the tower.
[04:02:22] Spirit wanted him to defend, can't get it.
[04:02:24] This is the downside of a hero like Bristleback, you know, like he does want to farm, he looks
[04:02:30] up there like, I don't know guys, I'm not that interested in defending, but it does
[04:02:34] mean the space on the map is going to shrink.
[04:02:37] They've been doing a good job stacking, but as you lose the towers and they can
[04:02:41] just come up to you can test easier and easier spirits gonna have to the plays
[04:02:49] get some space like watch us just walking up he's getting the kills on the
[04:02:55] creeps here with you know the the bristleback like taking down this
[04:02:58] ancient stack is important getting to that song and yasha but like you
[04:03:05] mentioned this hero needs to farm like he's not going to be joining and getting
[04:03:11] a ton done in the fights until he has the S&Y done and then after that he's
[04:03:15] gonna go back for the wraps or something it's usually a combination of S&Y plus
[04:03:19] one of these other items and I think the wraps is typically what we see people
[04:03:23] go for now. A lot of this Wampson farming really well even rotated over
[04:03:32] to help out. But now just back to getting that battle fury. He's so farmed already.
[04:03:40] With an... This is an Ursa who has lower farming speed than a Dragonite too, so yeah. It's
[04:03:48] a little bit concerning to see like 1500 gold difference already.
[04:03:56] So with the fewer kills this game for Spirit and Alliance, where are we at on Warlock's
[04:04:01] Grimoire, right?
[04:04:03] Alas, the Grimoire is gone.
[04:04:06] Mmm, right?
[04:04:08] Finally.
[04:04:09] No more of this like cheesy dropping the Grimoire
[04:04:13] and taking, you know, an ultimate at five,
[04:04:16] or like six, seven minutes of the game, right?
[04:04:19] Yeah, though, I'm so glad.
[04:04:21] He unfortunately had no kills this lane,
[04:04:23] so even if he had the Grimoire,
[04:04:26] it would not have done much for him this time.
[04:04:29] It was right in front of the pop base.
[04:04:31] So sad.
[04:04:32] That hurts.
[04:04:33] Yeah, you can still do the same stuff if you get the ult, right?
[04:04:38] Like you can still push towers.
[04:04:39] You just drop it nonstop.
[04:04:40] It's just a question of how consistently do you hit it early?
[04:04:43] And this is the case where the game's a little rough.
[04:04:45] You're still level five as we get to 12 minutes.
[04:04:51] In a good warlock game with Grimoire, you're talking about the third
[04:04:53] golem drop coming up here.
[04:04:55] Yeah, we have yet to even see it.
[04:04:59] Oh, that's a lot of stacks.
[04:05:09] Okay, Shadow Demon doing what he does best.
[04:05:11] It's good to best say, let's see a stack.
[04:05:16] Beard actually has more, but I mean, I guess Collapse is already cleared like a stack of
[04:05:20] 4 or 5 Ancient Greaves, so that does kinda make sense.
[04:05:24] But this gold advantage is piling up already.
[04:05:28] Beyond Ducks currently up to 2,000. They haven't touched their stack pool.
[04:05:32] So, we'll see. I mean, those are likely just going to go to the Ursa once he
[04:05:36] decides to rotate over with the finished battle fury.
[04:05:39] Tier Junior has opted for the early festival of this game. I'm a big fan of this item.
[04:05:47] She did a lot of work this game, too.
[04:05:49] Yeah, some tanky heroes, a lot of healing coming in.
[04:05:54] And you kind of need it, right? You might have been able to skip it and say like,
[04:05:57] like I'm gonna get Shiva's well I don't know I'm not gonna cut it now right and I
[04:06:02] don't think anyone's rushing crellis crowsier so I think if you need this
[04:06:06] early anti-heal it's gonna be this vessel maybe blight zone will make a
[04:06:11] comeback it feels like there's a lot of healers right now possibly because of
[04:06:15] that she mischanged the only thing that matters in the next five minutes is
[04:06:21] making sure that we get to see someone who's okay Watson's doing it he's on
[04:06:25] on the way. We've waited 13 minutes for this. Someone about to just get absolute stonks.
[04:06:33] Starting with the mediums? Oh yeah. You think it's weird that like the bear is so much stronger
[04:06:43] than the other animals in the forest? I mean as they say the bear is the king of the
[04:06:47] jungle yeah that's that's definitely what he's gonna get us I mean this is
[04:07:03] all look at the network difference on the earth so that everybody else he's
[04:07:07] still got the big creeps oh my blink as he finishes this this is pretty much
[04:07:13] the blink dagger so battle fury phase blink dagger at 14 minutes
[04:07:20] he's like five little short he's getting there mid lane yatoro's gonna get found
[04:07:25] again demonic purge coming through easily collapsed on right between these
[04:07:31] two void spirits and the slaughter like they have so much gap closed and it's
[04:07:37] very reminiscent of game one oh there's another one notice just jumps in finds
[04:07:42] the crush they get the coil and the golem out but you're really lacking damage to
[04:07:49] finish these two heroes and here comes Watson instead revealing his own blanket
[04:07:52] just chases down long gets the kill. Gonna look for the golem as well a little bit
[04:07:57] of bonus hundred gold into the hands of the air so if he wasn't rich enough
[04:08:00] already it's falling upon real bad tower two right that's between the tier
[04:08:10] one tier two that is what we would usually consider a kind of a deep
[04:08:15] minutes but yeah I think the body language is a bit telling that is like
[04:08:19] how does he have for this game he sits there looks at his items looks at
[04:08:25] earth's house and it's like blink this guy has a blink it's time to retreat into
[04:08:31] the jungle and forge some nuts I mean I guess it is an option but you try to kill
[04:08:42] the bear the king of the jungle I don't think so there's nuts now I don't think
[04:08:47] the hedgehog is offering to the king yeah maybe it'll space gate his hunger you
[04:08:57] I was like here have some nuts and they're like, oh, thank you you survive another hungry I
[04:09:07] Love the concept of this forager skin, but having tried it a couple times you fill your inventory with junk so quickly
[04:09:14] And you're like, what do I do with all these nuts? I like no space I
[04:09:18] I want the mushrooms to like be one-slot alt-cast. This is your tanky bristleback, not so tanky.
[04:09:31] It's looking rough. Uh...
[04:09:36] I'm telling you, you gotta go find some nuts. There ain't nothing else.
[04:09:42] This is spirit. You know, you gotta you got a delay. You got to drag this out. You got to go late
[04:09:47] I don't know if I even feel their lineup is
[04:09:52] Superior in the late game, but we see them do some crazy things
[04:09:57] Yandex have been in pretty good form though. Oh
[04:10:02] Yeah, they're not gonna let you do that if you're like
[04:10:07] Okay, this is a socks a disruption
[04:10:09] Okay, gets the TP out just in time I say if you are at least
[04:10:14] Like say your spirit here and like you know Ursus having really good game
[04:10:17] but like maybe your other lanes didn't go very bad and and you know you're kind of able to
[04:10:23] Slow down the slaughter. I think you'd have a much better chance in this game
[04:10:28] But the fact the slaughter it's such a good lane such an early blink and it's also getting active
[04:10:35] really early like this is where this hero really thrives and
[04:10:39] You have like a void spirit who's crushing it with a vessel running around the map
[04:10:43] and then the actual crush coming in from the Florida are just adds insult to
[04:10:49] injury and you're now 8000 by the first to holding an Aegis
[04:10:57] they're gonna try this smoke bringing everyone down here you do need you need
[04:11:02] to change the way this game's going they find them in the back the crush
[04:11:06] She's waiting. Yeah, I mean if you get Malady, I guess it would be something but Ersta's ages will get burned
[04:11:13] It's a 1 for 0 at the moment
[04:11:15] They need to finish off the squadron. I think they got them. They do. No, they don't not yet
[04:11:20] Takes a little bit more out of them to get the job done is now collapsed kind of alone looking to chase for more
[04:11:27] See where they find
[04:11:30] Good TP out. All right
[04:11:32] Honestly, not bad from Spirit of 2 for 1. You get the Slaughter, but it does cost you your carry, Dragonite.
[04:11:42] He still don't claim the Aegis.
[04:11:45] It was going to go better as well, but notice managed to find the Warlock, take him out in like two hits,
[04:11:54] and that means the Golem just never came out. All the Spells that would have helped to convert that into a kill.
[04:12:01] into a kill. They've got a good amount of AoE damage, right? So like, when you combo everything
[04:12:04] with the fatal bombs, the golem, um, you know, maybe there was a shot, but took them out
[04:12:09] straight off the bat. You maintain your lead. Stacking still non-stop stacks. Socks are
[04:12:16] never getting distracted. You got to be your combo greedy enchant.
[04:12:22] Alright guys, time to buckle up.
[04:12:25] It's so weird to me that the team that is crushing it right now is the ones like everyone just get greedy, it's fine.
[04:12:34] Bro, gold's never wrong. I wonder if some of this is...
[04:12:38] Thinking about the economics of the game. Ancient camps got taken out of the side.
[04:12:43] Right, there's less gold, but all the teams still want gold, you know?
[04:12:48] So maybe it's a move towards... towards greedy.
[04:12:55] I don't know if the creeps wave spotted notice in Soxa, but Spirit smoked up wanting to maybe
[04:13:11] surprise them on the Tormentor here.
[04:13:13] I mean that would be a really sick play if it works, but they see collapse and smoke
[04:13:17] is popped by the Jekiro.
[04:13:19] He's trying to bait on the frontline, they're gonna go in, rend it off the mark, but
[04:13:23] I think it's the first hit, Bastion Puck's gone!
[04:13:26] He has a Baster on the earth, collapsed now.
[04:13:30] Nowhere to go.
[04:13:35] What a disaster, first period.
[04:13:37] Disruptions gonna find another and rue
[04:13:40] into the hands of the king of the jungle.
[04:13:45] He's hit now.
[04:13:46] Oh, he is.
[04:13:47] Am I wrong?
[04:13:48] He is.
[04:13:49] He made a good point.
[04:13:52] That is, uh, what's his clean worth?
[04:13:56] Clearly king of the jungle this game.
[04:14:00] He, that's a good play, right?
[04:14:03] He had his bat.
[04:14:04] I assume he primed it.
[04:14:05] I wasn't really watching him.
[04:14:06] I see.
[04:14:07] Some of that was luck.
[04:14:08] He went to go clear the creep wave.
[04:14:09] So I don't even know if it was intentional or not, but he first hit Vash that Puck
[04:14:13] and unfortunately don't really have saves on the team, so Puck just dies.
[04:14:18] I mean without that kind of setup.
[04:14:20] You kind of need everything to go, right?
[04:14:22] You need the coil, you need the fatal bonds, you need the blastings, all that, you need
[04:14:26] like, Blinding Light Snap all the coils, you need the coil spray gone, right?
[04:14:29] You need the Dragonite with the ZAOE going.
[04:14:31] You need everything to line up to have enough damage to deal with a 13k gold deficit at
[04:14:36] 21 minutes.
[04:14:37] And you can tell, it did not go there, you know.
[04:14:41] This is a frustrating game for Spirit.
[04:14:43] This was not the way this draft was supposed to go.
[04:14:46] I mean, you can see it on his face, like, the first time, right?
[04:14:49] He gets like surprised by the blink dagger and he's like what in the world this time
[04:14:54] It gets surprised by the blink and he's like
[04:14:57] You could see the tilt kind of setting in and being like I
[04:15:02] Don't know what to do like that your your amount of options and choices in this game are dwindling
[04:15:08] very quick collapse gonna try and chase down maybe look for socks up, but
[04:15:13] There's just no follow-up
[04:15:15] but instead, it's here to use an amplified damage rune, looking to find his own mark, and it's gonna be Rue.
[04:15:21] They do at least get the Bristol out, thanks to the Solar Binds, but...
[04:15:25] Notice, looking for Panto, he's gonna get the crush, just a couple auto attacks all that needs.
[04:15:30] One more big bonk.
[04:15:33] Get ready for Laurel Cam, when Watson surprises him with the Abyssal later.
[04:15:38] In a couple minutes.
[04:15:39] All of the surprises going to kill the pucks so far.
[04:15:45] That's the Aegis expiring, but I'd say it was pretty successful.
[04:15:50] They had a lot of good fights, they got the Tormenter, about to clean up a tier 2.
[04:15:54] I guess not that surprised me, they didn't get a bunch of tier 2s with that first Aegis.
[04:15:59] They're not that great at taking towers, the Jitiro is the best.
[04:16:02] So I think they'll settle for getting kills and Tormenters and just growing the gold
[04:16:06] lead.
[04:16:07] A little climb, please.
[04:16:09] Soxa, have mercy, let them have something.
[04:16:13] He does die, fine.
[04:16:14] They needed this. They needed something. Collapsed getting the gold down C over the puck. Maybe a little bit unfortunate, but
[04:16:20] Either way they do find an opening
[04:16:23] Come through the twin gauge on him actually
[04:16:27] That's great into a remnant. Yeah, really rough
[04:16:31] Maybe I'll catch another one. Let me put second one
[04:16:35] He's yeah, you know, they went from farming fish last game on the
[04:16:38] The uh, tighthunter now is looking for him on the void spirit.
[04:16:42] Laurel trying to cut this top wave, just trying to stay out of vision for the moment.
[04:16:47] Yeah I mean you can see what they're trying to do, right?
[04:16:50] They know they can't engage, they're finding support and they're trying to like flip out
[04:16:53] onto the map.
[04:16:55] Laurel is over here farming this part of the jungle.
[04:16:57] Unfortunately this camp got downgraded actually.
[04:16:59] It's now a small camp.
[04:17:02] And then, you know, Bristle is going through the twin gates, trying to cut bottom,
[04:17:06] farm down there.
[04:17:07] to do this because you're trying to save the the safer farm for Dragonite who is
[04:17:11] probably missing the ancients in the the side lane right now which that's kind of
[04:17:17] the result of this patch right the team that is control that is winning and
[04:17:21] in control gets to get access to more of the farm and as you do this sneaky
[04:17:28] stuff that Spirit is doing in the last patch you would just be rewarded with
[04:17:32] 100 or 200 more gold like every time you make these plays
[04:17:37] Well, Laurel manages to find his blink dagger, but you're playing for scraps right now, really.
[04:17:50] Demonic Purge, Vestal, here onto the Bristol bag, they have to pop the golem, but it's
[04:17:54] done, it's so much damage coming out from these guys, and while Watson quick kill onto the Warlock to get even more for their trouble here.
[04:18:07] We'll start to spawn soon, I don't know, think of like Waste, Spirit can try to get back,
[04:18:19] like maybe you steal Roach somehow, I don't know how, but maybe, maybe someone just steals
[04:18:25] the Aegis, you know what they get the kill when you steal the Aegis, I think that would
[04:18:28] be, I guess it has to be punk, right, I don't know who else can simply walk in
[04:18:33] didn't grab it I don't think so just barely dodging oh no I may have spoke to
[04:18:42] so say oh barely dodging death but king of the jungle waiting for him in said
[04:18:47] jungle hot does not belong in the jungle get out very dragon definitely more of a
[04:18:55] forest creature
[04:18:58] Rue has joined creep. I think a courier might have spotted him. Leave me alone please. No
[04:19:06] the courier! Oh it's spotted him now. Now he's here by the spirit junior. Oh no. It might
[04:19:13] be an economic gain for spirit. Bro it actually is. Oh no. That's rough. That's a rough
[04:19:22] spot to be. If only he could have cut a creep wave as well then it would have
[04:19:25] been even better for him. Yeah, but you kind of have to do this stuff. It's better to cut
[04:19:34] waves rather than kill the wave in front. There's more danger in the front, kind of like this.
[04:19:41] You Toro's experiencing some danger in this moment. Danger is dangerous. Not only is there
[04:19:50] more danger, but you deal with this wave and then the next wave just comes in like
[04:19:53] like 10 seconds later, 20 seconds, right?
[04:19:56] If you cut the wave, the tower helps you with the first wave
[04:19:59] and then you're waiting for like the wave
[04:20:01] after the wave you cut to spawn
[04:20:03] and then walk all the way down.
[04:20:05] So every time you successfully cut a wave,
[04:20:07] you're kind of buying like 30 seconds to a minute
[04:20:09] in the lane rather than just 20 more seconds
[04:20:12] where the enemy doesn't have to change their position.
[04:20:14] So that's what spirits wanna do, stuff like this, right?
[04:20:16] Laurel snuck out the side, open a creep cut,
[04:20:18] but the index are no strangers to the creep cut game.
[04:20:21] So bro, another kill.
[04:20:27] It's a little played from Yandex.
[04:20:28] Yeah, I mean, Yandex realized how greedy it was and just punished it so hard.
[04:20:35] I mean, you have to execute, right?
[04:20:37] Sometimes you have the better draft, but you just don't play well.
[04:20:40] And it's kind of the different.
[04:20:41] I mean, these are the teams I made it at the top, right?
[04:20:43] So they're doing it.
[04:20:45] The teams that struggle a little bit struggle to punish this.
[04:20:48] This is where teams like Spirit, you know, they fumble the laning stage.
[04:20:51] It's like, okay, we'll creep cut, we'll play the map, we'll cause them to, you know, waste time,
[04:20:55] but Yandex is being really efficient. They're sending minimal heroes to go find these pickups.
[04:21:00] They're still farming efficiently. They're like, they're not losing track of it.
[04:21:03] They're keeping an eye on objective timers like Rose. They're being really good about this.
[04:21:08] That's why this game has been in such good form.
[04:21:10] Dude, Panto, he's got a Tumbert toy, dude. He's got a Tumbert toy.
[04:21:14] Oh, he drops the goal in a little bit too early. Oh God, he's got to run.
[04:21:18] Get out of there, buddy.
[04:21:19] Can you get the jungle please? He's out!
[04:21:22] What a gamer. Oh no, he tried!
[04:21:26] I mean...
[04:21:28] Good attempt, right? You gotta do something.
[04:21:32] Unfortunately, it doesn't quite work out.
[04:21:36] Out of an amazing tumblr toy steal. That was so good.
[04:21:41] I thought he was just gonna tumblr toy in with a golem.
[04:21:44] golem but he overestimated right he's like Watson so far he's probably done
[04:21:49] by now right like a better better check with the golem it was just a little bit
[04:21:54] too soon though the items are just pouring in on the side of the index
[04:22:01] I'm looking at what they have and it's terrifying like a pistol was done on the
[04:22:07] You have a nullifier done on the Splardar.
[04:22:19] Um...
[04:22:22] Okay, Dragonite has eggs! Hold up!
[04:22:25] Looking for a kill here, on to Malady. Ha ha!
[04:22:27] I can chase you up to the high ground and with this...
[04:22:30] Uh...
[04:22:32] Ooh, uh oh.
[04:22:34] Well, chase who up where?
[04:22:36] I don't think so.
[04:22:39] You know if you weren't 20,000 behind it would have looked a little bit better. They did manage to take down the jikiro
[04:22:45] I think that's probably a net worth trade and advantage
[04:22:48] for spirits, but
[04:22:51] Not by much that is the axe reveal from your DK and you know he's dead
[04:22:57] It's not ideal. Let me tell you as a professional in the business when the support has
[04:23:02] more kill gold given the carry on the enemy team. That's not a good time. Yeah, there's
[04:23:12] going to be a great time for Yandex, you know, just a great time for them.
[04:23:24] Well, Banner down, protecting the creeps. Let's finish off a tier 3 tower. Spirit,
[04:23:30] I honestly don't know what you can do. It feels like this was kind of bit in the books for a while
[04:23:38] But they're doing their best to play it out. Obviously, it's the it's the playoffs. It's the upper bracket
[04:23:43] You don't want to just give up
[04:23:45] You know, maybe Yandex are gonna over extend make the mistake and spirit is a team that can capitalize it just feels
[04:23:54] Instrumentable at this point. We'll have to see
[04:23:56] Yeah, you need, uh, you need like a five-man coil.
[04:24:04] You need to blinding him light in five separate directions and all break it.
[04:24:09] On to the other side they go, they jump onto the dragon knight, pull back in, nullify their
[04:24:13] heals coming in as well.
[04:24:14] It's trying to keep Gatorra alive with the demonic purge.
[04:24:17] It's making it impossible to double beat KBs.
[04:24:20] Just rip through your dragon knight, T-R-Gener will clean up the golem, it's collapsed.
[04:24:23] He's managed to do a decent chunk of damage. They've chased the backline. The question is, can they keep chasing?
[04:24:31] Ursa still has the Aegis. Tricorps for Yandex is alive.
[04:24:40] Just your support. You get the tier 3. It's a better hold than I expected for Spirit.
[04:24:47] So I guess there's that, but you still have two minutes on those Aegis.
[04:24:51] Yandex will just wait for their support.
[04:24:54] Why not just go again? This time the tier 3 is down so it's easier.
[04:24:57] And we should be able to close up two barracks.
[04:25:00] They want to play it safe. They'll wait for the next roach.
[04:25:02] They'll close with that one, but if you find any big pick-offs, right at this point, you just go take objectives.
[04:25:07] Another Tormentor. This one goes to Malady. He's gonna be really happy. Haha, Nerf gone.
[04:25:25] I did it. Just a 30 minute difference. No longer requires mana.
[04:25:31] We've seen this before, Demonic Purge plus the damage from Pure Journey is going to pop
[04:25:38] the Lotus by himself a little bit of time, but with the Nullifier, the damage from the
[04:25:41] Slardar should be able to finish the job.
[04:25:45] Another disruption into a Remnant.
[04:25:47] Heal's coming through with the last possible second from Rue.
[04:25:51] We'll bail him out, so he survives.
[04:25:55] Did pop your dragon form for that though
[04:26:04] I mean Rue is doing a lot in their base
[04:26:07] Yeah, the healings good that ultimate is about the fate they're trying to fight something with both ults
[04:26:13] Gatoro jumping up onto the high ground caught from a macro player in just held in place a disruption
[04:26:18] I mean while the whole backline of your teeth getting ripped apart by this earth and voice spirit Gatoro
[04:26:24] trying desperately to run, but just getting chased out by his own illusions, the shadow
[04:26:28] demon just destroys them, hook goes in, cop from a crush, taken down as well.
[04:26:37] Well, you got the Aegis.
[04:26:42] Quite a costly fight there as Spirit now down 30,000.
[04:26:48] Is there going to look for a second lane of racks here on the side of Yandex?
[04:26:51] And I don't know how you stopped this.
[04:26:54] I don't think you do.
[04:26:56] Kiro did more damage than Dragonite.
[04:26:58] Crew dragons are in fact better than one.
[04:27:02] They just...
[04:27:04] He got controlled on that clip.
[04:27:05] He's trying to get up there, get the vision for his team,
[04:27:08] and yet it's still them getting jumped in the back.
[04:27:11] Hey, you got like half the soul of Yondex back anymore.
[04:27:16] One final attempt here.
[04:27:18] No Dragonite though.
[04:27:21] Well, no warlock either.
[04:27:23] Guy vanish will magic trick a yondex has now a pucaddle also disappeared off the map
[04:27:30] And it's just collapsed up here trying to find his way out of it not gonna happen
[04:27:35] But like you Toro's gonna come in on the dragon night
[04:27:39] You can see the desperation at this point axe macro pyre dumped on top of him the GG's come out and my lord
[04:27:47] board. This is for lack of a better word in the name of a great caster are still lacking.
[04:27:56] Absolute dominance in game 3. This was never even closed from the get go. Yandex will advance
[04:28:03] to the next round of the upper bracket, knocking spirits to the lower bracket. It was a clean
[04:28:11] draft they had multiple playmakers right you have the the void spirit all he
[04:28:17] needs is level six even if his lane doesn't go well he'll be able to do
[04:28:19] stuff. Slaridarth needs the blink he wins the lane great if not void will cover
[04:28:24] for you right they have those options. The panel mentioned spirit draft is greedy
[04:28:29] because they don't have that it has to be the puck. Puck kind of struggled we
[04:28:35] have a bristle farming we have stacking supports we have a dragonite
[04:28:38] who's going a farming build like no one could do anything after the lane started to fall apart
[04:28:44] and yondex just never got pressured right they just made sure spirit didn't cut their waves they just
[04:28:49] you know kept them trapped in the base cut that farm down yonah did a great job of that but
[04:28:54] it's really coming back to the the draft and the the laning i think looking at the off lanes
[04:29:01] right like there were not a lot of offlane heroes left in the pool going into last pick for
[04:29:05] collapsed and it's you know they take a bristle back being like well maybe this will work maybe this
[04:29:10] would kind of be our like best option but it doesn't win the lane in fact we see it struggle
[04:29:16] immensely in the lane and it leaves Watson to having one of the the most farmed ursas we have
[04:29:22] ever seen. He had an incredibly timed battlefield he cleaned up enormous stacks in the jungle
[04:29:28] and every single time he picked up an item he finds a kill that right away right he gets
[04:29:35] It's the blank instantly kills
[04:29:37] Pucky it's a basher instantly kills
[04:29:39] Puck and it felt so rough for
[04:29:41] Spirit to find any sort of
[04:29:43] Momentum in this game. You're just getting
[04:29:46] Destroyed by the king of the jungle
[04:29:48] So congratulations to yandex. We're going to set it
[04:29:51] Back to the panel where they can break
[04:29:53] Down this series a little further
[04:29:57] Thank you very much. Yes. I mean this was
[04:30:00] An absolute beating not only did yandex to control
[04:30:03] control the early game but they just dominated through the entire game.
[04:30:07] So what I loved about this was the way that they played from in front, like not only did
[04:30:12] they farm themselves up but they also made sure that Spirit got absolutely nothing out
[04:30:17] of this map.
[04:30:18] Yeah, they were really good at setting up like the catch, I think especially on Shadow
[04:30:23] of the event, I think Saksa played amazing this game.
[04:30:26] He knew that Spirit they were going to just split, they're not going to fight you
[04:30:30] because they're so far behind.
[04:30:31] But he did a really good job of setting up, putting walls behind, and just catching them
[04:30:35] and allowing his team to come over to pick off the heroes that are trying to red, you
[04:30:39] know, so I think it's not a very good idea to try to speed up against Yandex.
[04:30:44] I feel like if you ever force into this sort of scenario against a team like Yandex, you're
[04:30:48] probably not going to do very well.
[04:30:50] Yeah, we knew this was going to be a strong draft, but TGEMZ, you selected to be this
[04:30:55] strong.
[04:30:56] Yes, I mean, in the form Yandex is in, I think this was just, honestly, no
[04:31:00] disrespectful from spirit. You're drafting against Yandex. They are so dominant in their
[04:31:04] lanes to support you. So, Watson, you just did not draft them a draft. You basically gave
[04:31:09] Yandex like, they can show us how good you are. And then, yeah, that's basically it.
[04:31:14] So, yeah, Yandex just demolished them in the second game.
[04:31:17] They really did. And now we get to head off to a winners interview. Let's talk to Mr,
[04:31:22] I believe we're talking to Mr. Watson from Yandex. So, well, let's head over.
[04:31:28] Watson, congratulations! Nice series coming out from you guys here. How do you feel about it?
[04:31:34] Very good.
[04:31:35] Hello.
[04:31:36] I can imagine. I mean, what made this third game so convincing? Was this a draft or a particular outplay? Or what was it?
[04:31:44] I think we had just better draft, easier to play. Like we have strong lions, also strong heroes, and we just played good, communicate good.
[04:31:58] That seemed to be the theme of your games recently.
[04:32:00] I want to talk about your game specifically in game number one.
[04:32:03] You picked up the Beastmaster.
[04:32:05] It looked ridiculously strong.
[04:32:07] Do you think this year is actually even better now as a carry after the patch?
[04:32:13] I think it's nerfed a bit because I jumped Storm on bottom.
[04:32:19] Like last time I killed this Storm solo but nowadays I cannot so I think it's a bit nerfed.
[04:32:24] I think I'm just a very good player.
[04:32:28] That's certainly agree with that.
[04:32:31] Yeah, to your governor, I believe you got a question for Mr. Watson.
[04:32:33] All right.
[04:32:34] All right.
[04:32:35] Again, congratulations on the win alchemist game to giving an agonist your queen of pain.
[04:32:42] Was that because the patch notes said money go up for agonist or did you just want
[04:32:47] to give more life to your middle?
[04:32:49] It's I mean it's for money and I also like you know let's hear a cook. Mm-hmm. Yeah
[04:32:59] And we just tried it and poops something like two games
[04:33:04] So yeah, I decided to try today
[04:33:08] Makes sense and when you are reading new patch notes as a carry player
[04:33:12] Do you just search you know damage gold?
[04:33:14] Do you just like go for like what's got the biggest damage chain that what's your way of like finding the gems in a patch
[04:33:21] I'm just
[04:33:23] reading only heroes that I play
[04:33:26] Hmm, I see
[04:33:28] Makes sense. Keep it simple
[04:33:38] Right, okay, all right, so not trusting your own advice makes sense, okay
[04:33:44] Winter?
[04:33:45] Yeah, so enough of the patch, enough of the games.
[04:33:49] I just wanted to ask something about the team.
[04:33:51] So you guys have been doing really well the last couple of weeks.
[04:33:55] In your opinion, what is the reason why you guys are playing so well as a team?
[04:34:00] What are you doing that the other teams are maybe not doing?
[04:34:02] I think we have a good structure.
[04:34:06] We have good team talks about game.
[04:34:10] everyone like saying how they see game and how they want to play and we are like
[04:34:15] I don't know how to explain in English so yeah I don't know we just like like as a
[04:34:21] team like we wake up early we play pubs we talk yeah we talk about heroes
[04:34:28] like combo with heroes and yeah that's all right well last question then I
[04:34:36] I mean, I wanted to ask you about the aspect of going into a huge arena because I know you've been a ton of tier 1 events in the team recently, but this is going to be different, you know, playing in front of such a big crowd.
[04:34:49] Have you given any advice to some of the less experienced players in your team about what it's like to play in a big arena?
[04:34:56] I don't know, I think I'll just, so I'll beat how it's called, I don't know.
[04:35:06] It's my first ESL one, so yeah, can't deny it.
[04:35:11] Alright, you looking forward to it though?
[04:35:14] Yes.
[04:35:15] Absolutely, alrighty, you enjoyed that experience, congratulations once again, heading it towards
[04:35:22] another huge result here, ESL one, let's see how far you can go.
[04:35:25] you. Thank you for joining us
[04:35:30] today. Well, thank you for
[04:35:31] coming to us and good luck
[04:35:33] the rest of the event. Thank
[04:35:35] you. Bye bye. There he is. What
[04:35:39] a performance from him is
[04:35:41] absolutely dominating his
[04:35:43] Beastmaster completely
[04:35:46] ridiculous is alchemist. You
[04:35:48] know, we need a game three,
[04:35:50] so we're grateful for it,
[04:35:51] but yeah, he's just been
[04:35:52] having an outstanding tournament
[04:35:54] from this man. I mean annoyingly his stat line doesn't have a death that's always the easy
[04:36:01] answer to that one after a game like that right but you know he was unkillable in that
[04:36:05] third game and now I feel like you can you can hear from the interview right they just
[04:36:09] they just understand each other really nicely and they know exactly what they need to do
[04:36:13] so all this will be the occasional moment where you know game 2 happens but you know
[04:36:16] Janbeks you have to respect them you know what they're gonna do they're gonna beat
[04:36:19] you out in the lanes to support them make these moves like the inevitable is gonna
[04:36:23] come from Janvek and Spirit just did not have that read on them. They just somehow just misprepped
[04:36:28] egregiously in this matchup. So it just looked so one-sided and yeah, we'll see how far Janvek's
[04:36:33] can continue on this, right? There's now a bit of what they're locked in. Top three,
[04:36:37] they're in the upper bracket finals. They're gonna have at least two games in front of a crowd
[04:36:41] and I think that experience will go a long way because sure, there's some nerves in play for
[04:36:45] Watson, but he's been in front of crowds before. They did play I think once in front of a crowd
[04:36:49] last year at least so they have like a little bit of experience under the belt but you know it's a
[04:36:54] one Birmingham that crowd is another beast they they rival if not beat out the sea crowd winter
[04:37:00] don't at me on that one brother we go hard in Birmingham so yeah they're gonna have to be ready
[04:37:05] because that arena is going to be extremely loud and they often favor the underdog so Yandex
[04:37:10] might even be under the pressure of the crowd because we brits we just whoever's the weakest
[04:37:15] We're gonna cheer for you. Yeah. Yeah, but then also, you know like newcomers as well. We love we love newcomers
[04:37:21] So it's it's a hard one. You do you never know who the crowd's gonna go for on the day
[04:37:25] But yeah, I mean winter. How do you how do you think it's going to affect them playing on the on the main stage?
[04:37:31] I'll probably just another day at the office here for for yandex. I feel like it shouldn't be something that affects them a lot
[04:37:38] Their players are going to be able to deal with it because every time you have a mix of old and young
[04:37:42] success the old one here like the team usually is gonna be a lot more stable
[04:37:48] in environments like this I think whereas for spirit I think after the loss
[04:37:52] today they are going to have to look back at their prep right like their prep for
[04:37:57] this series is definitely something that is lacking there in terms of drafting
[04:38:00] I don't even feel like they could have played a lot better in the two games
[04:38:04] that they lost it just felt like they couldn't really do much right from the
[04:38:07] draft you know they just had very limited options they needed to do a
[04:38:11] a lot in the early game to be able to play their game and it's just very, very difficult
[04:38:16] for us to play today.
[04:38:18] It really was, yeah.
[04:38:19] And I think, you know, we kind of highlighted some of the critical problems and unfortunately
[04:38:23] in the game that sort of all came into light and, yeah, this dessert game just looked
[04:38:28] absolutely brutal.
[04:38:29] But, you know, they've got time now to kind of reflect, you know, try to catch
[04:38:32] up on things.
[04:38:34] And one thing which Yandex had with Watson's interview, which I think was a big part
[04:38:38] their success today was that, you know, they're always talking. Everybody's allowed to contribute.
[04:38:43] You know, everybody's kind of talking about those two playing pubs together, etc. And I think
[04:38:47] that's really going to help you when a patch hits that you're all able to develop your ideas. You
[04:38:52] it's all about passing that information as quickly as possible. And clearly, Yandex have done that
[04:38:56] extremely well because this was a great series from them. So yeah, we'll get to see them
[04:39:00] continue on. And it's been taken. Is anybody going to threaten Yandex in the tournament?
[04:39:04] Or is he going to be back to back tournament wins for them?
[04:39:05] No, I think there is a lot of respect to be given to both Aurora and Tundra. I think both these teams just have the form to be able to make any best of three, best of five against Yandex to be very competitive.
[04:39:16] And looking at the lower bracket, right, when I think Falcons have been, they look like they've got a new lease of life with the patch. Some of the things they were doing in their last best of two of the group stage, you could see elements of, damn, this team might be able to put together a lower bracket run.
[04:39:29] to make the end. It's just
[04:39:32] wet a little bit more in this
[04:39:33] tournament. Absolutely Well,
[04:39:35] that is going to do it for this
[04:39:37] series. But guys, there's another
[04:39:39] one coming up just around the
[04:39:40] corner. We're going to have a
[04:39:41] bit of a break and then we will
[04:39:43] be back with Aurora versus
[04:39:45] Tundra. The two teams to battle
[04:39:47] it out on the other side of the
[04:39:49] upper bracket and find out who
[04:39:50] is going to go on to face up
[04:39:52] against Yandex in the upper
[04:39:54] bracket final that is just
[04:39:56] around the corner. Guys will
[04:39:57] just around the corner, guys.
[04:39:59] We'll see you in a little bit for that series.
[04:41:02] The sun come down with the will of its will
[04:41:06] Starting over, starting over, starting over
[04:41:11] Time for a creative
[04:41:15] Starting over, starting over, starting over
[04:41:19] Time for a creative
[04:43:32] I'm gonna call this time of the region
[04:43:35] You
[04:44:05] If you don't kick it, bro, you can't get it, bro.
[04:44:15] If you don't kick it, bro, you can't get it, bro.
[04:45:55] And we could be as well
[04:45:57] Make the big bucks
[04:45:58] The big bucks love
[04:46:00] They love them look
[04:46:01] And we could be anyone
[04:46:03] Everyone sucks
[04:46:04] And life's gone
[04:46:06] That's it, like me
[04:46:08] When we party
[04:46:10] Love is a party
[04:46:11] Love is a party
[04:46:12] Love is a party
[04:46:13] Love is a party
[04:46:14] Love is a party
[04:46:25] Come on in, come on in
[04:46:28] Keep up, keep up, keep up, keep up
[04:46:40] Keep on it, I'm gonna fuck up a suit
[04:46:43] Lightning, we'll be firenin' up
[04:46:45] Keep up, keep up, keep up, keep up, keep up
[04:48:21] I'm bracing at you when you sometimes it seems to me that way
[04:48:25] Friends!
[04:48:27] It ain't nothing to me
[04:48:30] It's only you that's left me
[04:48:33] It's only you
[04:48:35] Friends!
[04:48:36] It ain't nothing to me
[04:48:39] It's only you that's left me
[04:48:42] Please
[04:48:50] Seriously, mate
[04:48:53] Are you through?
[04:48:59] You move as you can, besides a patch of ice
[04:49:05] Storm in your cheek, a bullet in your chimes
[04:49:08] Your laughing at a wreckage that you can't take away
[04:49:12] You're blind, you're dead kid
[04:49:17] And my kids are blind, you're dead kid
[04:49:23] And my shots are
[04:49:37] Friends, in everything to me
[04:50:40] I can't fall asleep, I can't look you in the eyes
[04:51:07] Don't you dare leave me, it won't make me cry
[04:51:15] Don't you dare leave me, I don't want you leaving me high
[04:51:23] Just keep me free, you can have what you want
[04:51:31] I'm falling down, I'm falling down, I'm falling down
[04:51:40] I'm falling down, I'm falling down, I'm falling down
[04:51:48] I was breathing back, chasing it to the ground
[04:51:56] Don't you fall asleep, but I'm not doing fine
[04:52:13] I've been falling down, I've been dragging back to you
[04:52:50] I've been falling down, and I've been trying like a river
[04:53:00] I've been falling down, and I've been falling down like a river
[04:53:07] Like a river, like a river
[04:53:50] Birmingham is brought to you by DHL and CheX.
[04:53:57] Welcome back to the very first day of the playoffs here at ESL One.
[04:54:19] burning up. That is right. We are getting into the upper bracket and we have already seen a team
[04:54:26] knocked down. It was spirit taken out of the upper bracket by our next and now we're into our second
[04:54:31] series of the day and it is going to be. I'm joined by winter and TGov TGov. Are we expecting
[04:54:40] a similar series this time around? Is this one going to be a little bit different than anyway?
[04:54:44] This has to be closer. All right. This is going to be three games of excellent draft.
[04:54:49] both teams trying their absolute best to get themselves to the upper bracket final to have a date with Yandex in the streets of Birmingham.
[04:54:57] You know, everyone would love that at some point. I'm sure in their lives, alas. But you know, this is going to be a very close series.
[04:55:03] I might in before it's a tour. But anyway, it feels it feels it doesn't it. I mean, when I get give me a hot take.
[04:55:11] I want to hear something very spicy from you here. A hot take on the series we've got coming up.
[04:55:16] The team with the more SCA players is going to win.
[04:55:20] That's not it. That is a hard take. That is a hard take.
[04:55:23] Let's see how this one goes down.
[04:55:26] I'm extremely excited to see some of your countrymen competing here.
[04:55:32] I mean, what's your thoughts on this? Do you like watching them play?
[04:55:35] Do you think they're good representatives of the region?
[04:55:38] Yeah, the players are by far our best offender in a long time.
[04:55:42] It's been a while since we've produced a world-class off-laner, usually have very good support players, position 5 players, position 4 players sometimes, but never an off-laner.
[04:55:51] So this is the first for the region.
[04:55:53] Definitely, and he has been outstanding. I mean, it felt like he just rose up out of nowhere, took the top spot on the MMR leaderboards and they just didn't really get a whole lot done in the teams he was in.
[04:56:04] but it really feels like he's been enabled now in Aurora.
[04:56:08] And it's really good to see.
[04:56:09] There's love seeing some of these sort of pub stars
[04:56:12] coming out and proving that actually they can perform
[04:56:15] on a big stage since all Dota at the end of the day.
[04:56:19] Yeah, tell me about the other side of the coin.
[04:56:20] I mean, we've got Tundra coming through, you know,
[04:56:22] they didn't have quite a good of performance
[04:56:23] in the Groups 11 and 3 versus Aurora 13 and 1,
[04:56:27] but you still think this one's gonna be close?
[04:56:30] No, for sure.
[04:56:31] I think Tundra is the type of team
[04:56:32] where they're very like flip floppy, okay, right?
[04:56:35] So let's think about it.
[04:56:36] They get 7th to 8th at like a playground event, right?
[04:56:40] Next event, they win.
[04:56:41] They go to Valahia, they get 7th to 8th.
[04:56:43] The next event, they win.
[04:56:45] They go to Dream League, they get 5th, 6th.
[04:56:47] The next event, they come 7th.
[04:56:49] It doesn't matter.
[04:56:49] The story like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[04:56:50] It doesn't matter.
[04:56:51] But then after that,
[04:56:52] then they go to Dream League season 28,
[04:56:55] they get first place, they get all the EBT points
[04:56:57] and then they go to Valahia and they get 5th, 6th.
[04:57:00] So pretty much, they rock up to an event,
[04:57:01] don't win it. The next one, they
[04:57:05] win while that one start I
[04:57:07] mentioned. So right now we are
[04:57:09] in the window of tundra not
[04:57:11] winning the last event. Therefore
[04:57:13] they have a chip on their
[04:57:14] shoulder. They're funding the
[04:57:16] proof and they're probably going
[04:57:17] to be some favorites to win
[04:57:19] it again. It's all the stats
[04:57:21] there again. Sorry. And let's
[04:57:23] not forget the hometown
[04:57:24] advantage, perhaps as well. I
[04:57:26] mean, you know, British
[04:57:27] organization with a British
[04:57:29] player as well. Ari
[04:57:30] a little bit of a deeper dive
[04:57:34] into one of these things. Let's
[04:57:36] start off with Aurora here. I
[04:57:38] mean, winter. What what really
[04:57:40] has been the key to a
[04:57:43] success so far. Nightfall. I
[04:57:44] think he has transformed
[04:57:46] himself from a very greedy carry
[04:57:48] into a team player. He is
[04:57:50] the Racha right now, and you
[04:57:52] need the Racha type of carries
[04:57:54] to win tournaments, and I think
[04:57:56] already in a very, very good
[04:57:58] very good spot right now. Yeah, I mean, Tiga, we heard in an interview with the Royals that
[04:58:03] this has all been about Nightfall, you know, they have just been listening to Nightfall's
[04:58:07] ideas. You know, he is the dictator of this team. And it's willing. They love it. And
[04:58:12] man, it is given them absolute results here. And that's a really cool thing to happen
[04:58:17] to a team, honestly. I mean, Nightfall's most of his career has been like him battling
[04:58:22] other people within the team. Like larger voices will rise up and it's like Nightfall
[04:58:26] versus, you know, insert big name player, how they eventually will create a problem within
[04:58:31] a team. But right now, based on the interview, what you're saying, it makes sense. If you've
[04:58:36] listened to one voice and it's a good voice, it will allow you to rise to the top of Aurora.
[04:58:41] You have to praise them in the fact that they've played with mid lane standings, carry
[04:58:45] standings, standings for law, and still they look good, right? So the foundation
[04:58:49] of Aurora is what you need to praise.
[04:58:52] All righty. Let's hear from the man himself then. Let's jump in and see what Nightful
[04:58:55] has to say about Aurora.
[04:59:25] Oh my goodness, Kairi is just taking it for a walk!
[04:59:31] For playing in the Stormwind with full roster, I'm quite excited because I also feel like ESL is one of the better lanters right now in Dota
[04:59:40] and also I think I believe there is zero stand-ups in this one.
[04:59:44] I'm grateful, I guess, that we all got here, I got here and we can actually play.
[04:59:50] Watch this moment, I think it's gonna be good.
[04:59:53] For big events and crowds, I think it just comes with experience, honestly.
[04:59:58] When I used to start my career to play worse, because I didn't really know exactly how to manage with stress,
[05:00:06] everyone gets this type of stress, but it's about how you manage it, and how it will get to you, or it will not.
[05:00:14] And how far we can go? I mean, I think we're up there, but all like top four, five teams
[05:00:25] can kind of beat each other and it's kind of dependent on day and we'll see.
[05:00:36] It's an interesting one, isn't it? And I love hearing that man talk about his team.
[05:00:40] I mean, what's your biggest takeaway from that feature about how the team functions
[05:00:44] and like their mentality towards the game at the moment.
[05:00:48] Well I think for a carry to be able to do his job in the game, you need to have like a good offender.
[05:00:53] He mentioned that WS is a very popular hit player.
[05:00:56] What a clip to start off by the way, thank you for giving us this.
[05:01:00] Yeah you kind of need that dynamic between your offender and your playhook each other.
[05:01:04] You're going to the gig, you're enabling your offender.
[05:01:06] So you need to have a suitable partner.
[05:01:08] I think from the games, at least I watched recently, him and WS,
[05:01:12] to have some very good thing going on in the game.
[05:01:15] Yeah, so it's a risk when you bring in people from different regions.
[05:01:19] It's hard to know how well they'll be able to communicate
[05:01:22] and how effective that communication will be,
[05:01:23] but Tiga, that doesn't seem to be a problem with Aurora at all.
[05:01:26] I mean, that is the beauty of Dota, right?
[05:01:28] Like, Dota itself is a language.
[05:01:30] And like, when you get very good at the game,
[05:01:32] obviously you're going to understand each other in that sense.
[05:01:34] And then through time, you'll kind of break down
[05:01:36] maybe like the regional kind of the culture and that type of stuff, right?
[05:01:39] And you will eventually harmonise.
[05:01:41] And that's exactly what Aurora have been able to do.
[05:01:43] So there's nothing about praise, the concept of bringing, what,
[05:01:48] I think there's three, two regions, I guess, right?
[05:01:50] Europe versus, you know, SEA versus, like, it's a competition.
[05:01:53] It's not, but like, still, it's very cool to see this.
[05:01:55] I think, like, anytime you see a post-Ti,
[05:01:58] I think every fan always look towards, like,
[05:02:00] when is the SEA player going to come to Europe?
[05:02:03] When's the European player going to go to the SEA?
[05:02:04] When's the Chinese team going to one day ever
[05:02:07] adopt a non-Chinese player, you know?
[05:02:09] like it's always like the post year stuff and it doesn't always happen, right? But when it does,
[05:02:13] it's like, damn, this is fun. And fair play to them, or they have really made it work. And
[05:02:17] to become a consistent, you know, team that can be rivaled against the top four to five teams in
[05:02:22] the world.
[05:02:23] Are we certainly going to be a tough opponent here for Tundra? But let's talk a little bit more
[05:02:29] about Tundra. I mean, this team, they are well known within the Dota sphere. You know,
[05:02:34] they change roster every year, pretty much. But it's always looking strong. They're always
[05:02:38] bringing something new to the game and they are always an opponent to be feared. Let's hear about
[05:02:42] this team from the mouth of Whitemon himself. I hope we can get better in this tournament because
[05:02:49] this is our full roster and we're not playing with Nandin anymore so yeah just hope for the best.
[05:02:56] I don't see any struggle but I think what makes us consistent I think because we keep talking
[05:03:02] about how the meta is going and maybe we create the new one or maybe we just follow what the meta is.
[05:03:09] What makes us consistent, we just keep talking about Dota and keep playing and then we try some
[05:03:14] new things and if it didn't work then we just go back to the same old way.
[05:03:20] I mean with Pyro, I think the communications can go both ways. I think
[05:03:24] me and Pyro talking a lot about how we want to play the lands, the games,
[05:03:28] something like that and even outside the games.
[05:03:32] I don't really aim for the result, you know. I think we're just aiming for, we're playing our best and we just try our hardest.
[05:04:02] It's really impossible not to
[05:04:07] love white one. Why but it's an
[05:04:09] absolute gem. He is great. And
[05:04:11] as you can see there, this team,
[05:04:13] it's working. It is this lineup.
[05:04:15] It's such so many different
[05:04:17] personalities. So many different
[05:04:19] sort of players coming together.
[05:04:21] Um and including. Oh God. Oh,
[05:04:25] no, how big one Howie. He
[05:04:27] doesn't have a lot of weaknesses
[05:04:29] in game, but I think they found
[05:04:31] I mean, you send from Aurora across to do that mid game, and they are you sending nightfall over.
[05:04:38] Yeah, I was going to say they don't really have like a fly or anything to just come over and, you know, take care of business.
[05:04:43] So, yeah, I guess my fault is the guy to do it for ways is but why wonder what do you like watching about Tundra do the most, you know,
[05:04:51] are you a fan of just sitting back and watching the pure rampages or do you like when, you know, BGM has a pop off game.
[05:04:57] game. For me, it's the the idea of like how many different combinations that this team can create,
[05:05:05] right? Like when you look at all five players, each of them at different stages of the game can
[05:05:09] step up and shine, right? Other rosters, you look towards like, oh, this guy needs to have a good
[05:05:13] game otherwise they might crumble, right? But when you look at tundra, it's like, you will see
[05:05:17] Ari break the map in the early game or Whiteman that set up the lanes. And then there'll be
[05:05:21] a BGM show at some point with an invoker or a lesh and then pure will be able to get a
[05:05:25] rampage once again another carry and then 33 is going to do some weird efficiency with
[05:05:29] an item and then become some unkillable beast right like the fact that tundra at any stage
[05:05:34] of a tournament they're in one guy can have a bad day but the other four will kind of
[05:05:37] instantly fix it right that is why they have always been a scary team i mean if you are
[05:05:41] choosing someone to target in the team i have probably a target 33 i think he's the soul of
[05:05:47] the team the drafts are most likely going to be centered around him so if i were to target
[05:05:52] someone, right? I would be talking to him. I would just use the bands for that guy. Make sure he has
[05:05:58] to play something that he doesn't want to play.
[05:06:01] Is there anything you really want to see here?
[05:06:04] I was going to say, like the Doom, right? Like we didn't really talk about it in the pre-show,
[05:06:08] right? But after 7.41, Doom suddenly become this hero that everyone's talking about, of course,
[05:06:13] due to his innate. And then when you think towards, uh, under, right? 33,
[05:06:18] 23, 235 competitive games on Doom. Second place for any pro player, 98 on XSS. Like, of course everyone says like he's the Doom Guider, but he is by a country mile the Doom Guy.
[05:06:29] So if there is ever a team that you need to ban it out, especially with the changes in 4-1, probably gonna be Tundra.
[05:06:36] I think it's safe to say we're just not gonna see a 33 Doom for the rest of this tournament. We're just gonna have to live with that.
[05:06:42] One thing I would love to see that I really want to see the 33% I want to
[05:06:46] see if he rates it in a form whether he's gonna have done it you can maybe
[05:06:52] do something with it because you have the invista level one so there's definitely
[05:06:56] some fact that you can it's not in business just flying also flying yes
[05:07:00] you can fly a little yeah I feel like for the first bird before the game
[05:07:04] starts it can definitely be useful for that yeah you can get down some mid walls
[05:07:09] for sure, but I'm sure there's some tech to be discovered with like breaking smokes or you know just doing something different there
[05:07:16] So yeah, we'll see if he's been able to cook on that just yet, but we're gonna open with a phoenix and a pangalia
[05:07:22] What does a pango first pick say about a drafty?
[05:07:26] Says they want to roll around and kill a lot of shit that thing scary
[05:07:29] I'm gonna ask Boogie. All right, my guy of course at the end of the last patch
[05:07:34] It went from being like one game played in a tournament spirits started playing it with collapsing a mark also on a Falcons
[05:07:41] And now it's like with one buff to running from the people are going yet. No, we need to play this here again
[05:07:46] So it's just gonna be a skirmishing hero that will find the backline
[05:07:50] You can't pick two supports that only want to pay backline now
[05:07:53] But you need to start thinking about heroes that can like survive themselves have some type of the
[05:07:59] Anglia he will find you in any fight in any
[05:08:04] And the use right now is all for the pangolins, everything has a very bad, it's all to protect the pangolins.
[05:08:12] Exactly, like pop, boil, ember, the root, so I'm just disengaged, also disengaged, like multiple ways to pangol to use spells and then to fight elsewhere, but Aurora they are, they're following a very clear threat, it honestly feels like there's not even a patch, right?
[05:08:27] I always Phoenix, we talk about 33 in Doom, I think I already probably is the, I don't know the stat for it, but he's probably the most experienced and probably the best Phoenix in the world.
[05:08:36] Like he is insane on this hero, always has been. So yeah, we're just leaning on comfort in this game, one draft.
[05:08:46] Yeah, Phoenix seems to be, he seems to be like one of the more solid position 5 remaining.
[05:08:51] I mentioned a little bit about the Warlock and Jakeru, but I kind of feel like Phoenix is definitely up there.
[05:08:58] He's the one that got, I would say, least nerfed out of the three based on the facets being removed.
[05:09:04] And he's pretty much the same hero in the lane and in the game.
[05:09:07] I think the only difference is you don't have the, what, the super sunray right now.
[05:09:11] So you don't have to choice to get the hotspot anymore.
[05:09:15] But outside of that, the hero still feels, you're just going to be a useful team fighter.
[05:09:20] you can still kill the Lyn, you know, very good at scaling. You have a stun through BKB,
[05:09:25] which is going to be useful against the Pangolier role. Pangolier doesn't really kill the egg,
[05:09:29] so they're definitely going to have to find things to hit the egg. And those are two heroes that
[05:09:34] I'm not sure if they're going to do much of egg-hitting, but we briefly spoke about how
[05:09:38] Beno might be a thing right now in the current patch.
[05:09:42] A very interesting hero, yeah. The new spell is certainly quite something,
[05:09:46] taking a bit of extra damage every time you right click. It's a lot of poison coming out
[05:09:51] from this guy as well. Double poisons, level one. This guy's got some stuff going on.
[05:09:55] I'm interested to see it. I'm glad we get to see it then again.
[05:09:58] I mean, it's also just the same as Firecards, but I don't know if they were playing the
[05:10:02] Valve devs and just thought they'd add it in, but alas. Yeah, I mean, I'm yet to
[05:10:06] see Venom in the new patch. I know, what's it called? Mouth tried playing it one game,
[05:10:12] but they got some stumps that I never got to see the Venom. So I'm really
[05:10:15] intrigued just to know what's going to be happening with it most likely what are we
[05:10:19] assuming based on the changes are we leaning core or you think that some
[05:10:25] might support life to it probably position 5 I think you're very good at
[05:10:29] like I feel like stopping people from pulling waves and securing a lane so I
[05:10:34] think probably a support
[05:10:37] perspective to those cool I'm excited
[05:10:42] I mean bruh is kind of like a counter because you can distill
[05:10:45] he slows later in the teamfights you know in the lane I'm not sure how well
[05:10:51] it's going to work but in the mid game it's gonna be very hard for Beno to do
[05:10:55] anything against bruh. Keep in mind that if you do use that ulti on him it
[05:11:00] does split when you dispel it right so I don't know how that's gonna work
[05:11:05] with the pandas is it gonna then immediately spread to all the pandas or is it I don't I don't know it's
[05:11:10] gonna be curious to find out I would imagine not it probably just disappears if there's
[05:11:13] no one to jump to but we'll see rubik cool hello all curious rubik coming out for the Aurora
[05:11:22] fourth pick so looking like some good spells to steal here I mean refresh me well what does
[05:11:28] rubik do winter I forgot what this hero even does it's good in the limit bro I think primarily
[05:11:33] outside of the spell stealing and everything else Rubik is really good with
[05:11:36] brubunit's someone to ignite is his claim so you can actually have a good lane
[05:11:42] like normally you see bruh with Muerta, blue with Skyra, long-range nuke
[05:11:47] Rubik does the same thing and Rubik kind of got a lot of buffs right in the current patch
[05:11:53] seems like the hero is back yeah I mean I just I'm rereading curiosity in
[05:11:59] out of curiosity and I'm enjoying it like the idea of like when you see
[05:12:02] someone cast a spell, you're gaining stacks and then those stacks give you base damage,
[05:12:07] debuff duration, buff duration, a little bit of AOE, it'll all add up to Rubik just feeling
[05:12:12] stronger depending on what spells are available.
[05:12:15] But yeah, just Rubik, of course his laning I think was a major problem then, like how
[05:12:20] does he actually get to play out the lane, but we've got a little bit of a damage increase
[05:12:24] by one damage, he had not to be crazy.
[05:12:27] And then the damage reduction also got a very small buff, so yeah, getting very
[05:12:32] minibuffs are laning, but yeah, just the skirmishing the fight like he can have spells doing quick cast and probably get a
[05:12:39] Good spell in this game, right?
[05:12:41] Yeah, there's a lot up for grabs for sure and some big ones as well with an ulti the tide ulti this the snakes
[05:12:48] All gonna be very very big any ulti you can get your hands on I'm gonna feel very useful
[05:12:54] Yeah
[05:12:56] It also helps that he's playing with Brewmaster, right?
[05:12:59] The lane is set up for Rubik to thrive, because, again, like I said with the lanes,
[05:13:04] when you have sentores and Brewmasters, they give you a full position, more freedom,
[05:13:08] to kind of go a little bit more creative, and, yeah, that's a good indicator.
[05:13:12] I'm kind of happy that both teams are mirroring each other in case though.
[05:13:16] They are looking to be kind of discouraged to fight, right?
[05:13:19] One team is going to be using Pango to go crazy, backed up by Venos and Shamans.
[05:13:23] then the other team's got a brewmaster and then the rubik and the voids group
[05:13:26] fiends will follow him so it's it is really fun that both teams kind of have
[05:13:30] the same approach how we want to break down the game
[05:13:36] so faceless taking out of the pool both teams
[05:13:40] needing a carry so we're gonna have to take pretty deep
[05:13:44] excellent stuff's about to be banned uh what what does the both team need
[05:13:49] probably don't see some weird carries and maybe some bristle back some
[05:13:52] Omni Knight carries. Omni Knight has some potential to be a carry right now with the buffs.
[05:13:59] You need something to kill off the split, I would say. Maybe a spend.
[05:14:06] Yeah, the classics to killing the split, right? It's Sven, it's Jerakopter.
[05:14:10] Anything that has like just random AoE damage helps a lot.
[05:14:16] It's also awkward to throw a roll, right? Your last pick in the draft is Nightfall's
[05:14:20] carry most likely and like his Ursa is gone that is the kind of anti-tied hero. His Doom of course
[05:14:27] is the first phase ban for yourself because you're playing against Tundra that would have been a great
[05:14:30] pick for themselves and then his other heroes they kind of feel like they they don't lane perfectly
[05:14:35] into a tide right like the Alk that he's shown we saw earlier how Tide just kind of chilled
[05:14:40] in that matchup you probably don't want to pick you know the Beastmaster carries into the
[05:14:43] I'm interested when he will move his staples, the lane part of the fight.
[05:14:58] It's probably going to be like a, like I said, a bristle, omninite hero, and it's not a lot of good choices here remaining, I think he's going to find something that can allow him to win the lane.
[05:15:09] Those are the impressions that he has.
[05:15:12] Andra also definitely gonna be thinking about that both games kind of won very similar heroes.
[05:15:17] They are both trying to figure out what carries to pick and which one can give them like an ideal start to the game to the lane.
[05:15:31] I mean, I don't mind it, right? Like when you look at how the layering of that draft will work,
[05:15:36] Tide will soak up the initiation of the fight he'll walk around and be the blob and then out call by all kids
[05:15:42] So he threatens the brewmaster at mid stage of the game exactly like brew won't to go like
[05:15:47] Or might as into into acts. I just read that very subtle audio extinct. It's really tilting
[05:15:57] Oh god, I don't know if I'm just going crazy
[05:16:00] all right anyways
[05:16:01] Yeah, good pick.
[05:16:03] Are they going to Lunar?
[05:16:05] Okay, yeah, I like the Lunar pick.
[05:16:06] Alright.
[05:16:07] Adding the damage reduction just as a base to the hero is very good.
[05:16:11] Okay, I'm not going crazy.
[05:16:12] They are dubbing me.
[05:16:13] Christ, I thought I was going crazy.
[05:16:17] I was wondering.
[05:16:19] Yeah, Lunar.
[05:16:20] I mean, this is a hero I was kind of expecting to fall off
[05:16:22] due to the changes to the ancients.
[05:16:23] I was a hero which loves farming ancients
[05:16:25] and for them to not be near the same place anymore.
[05:16:28] I was expecting to not see so much Lunar,
[05:16:30] But still a viable pick up here, at least according to Aurora.
[05:16:34] We'll see how it works out for the win.
[05:16:35] It's a very good pick here, I think.
[05:16:36] It's good in the lane, it's tight because you need a met a spell,
[05:16:39] something to push him out of magic damage,
[05:16:41] and because you're laning with the Phoenix, right,
[05:16:43] and they're laning into Shaman,
[05:16:44] so you need a carry to cancel the shackles.
[05:16:47] Shackle, that can actually do it.
[05:16:48] It's pretty important to have something to cancel shackles in lane, you know.
[05:16:51] So, I think this is an excellent pick for a row out of gaming or a row.
[05:16:55] They're very strong teamfight, very good scaling,
[05:16:58] And I kind of like the oil composition here a little bit more than what time you're has.
[05:17:03] Yeah, nice. Okay. A little bit favored there, Tiger.
[05:17:07] Yeah, they've done a really good job. I think just making sure that their draft is balanced.
[05:17:10] I think for Tundra, they are just going to have to try and answer the question of will out.
[05:17:14] We have to always have that item leads to feel like he's punching into the game.
[05:17:18] We saw earlier today, Alchemist kind of buy an axe, give it to someone else,
[05:17:22] kind of fall out of the game quite quickly.
[05:17:24] This time around, like, is he going to think about buying one axe?
[05:17:26] Was it only just because Watson was like, just wanting to help out Chiridunia a little bit?
[05:17:30] If he is just going pure damage items on the Alchemist, then it's like, get the kills, keep converting.
[05:17:35] So for me, it's like, yes, Alchemist in the game, it becomes an Alchemist game,
[05:17:39] but he has to make sure he just itemizes correctly.
[05:17:42] One wrong item on the Serra, and you will feel Aurora's lineup remind you of your mistakes.
[05:17:47] So what is the key win conditions for both teams here quickly then?
[05:17:51] Who, starting with Tundra, you can go win.
[05:17:54] So what needs to happen for them to be able to fight up into this Rora draft?
[05:17:59] Yeah, I think the lanes are obviously going to be very, very important again, like Aurora, can they actually get ahead with the lanes?
[05:18:05] I think they have a pretty strong setup. Both teams have very strong setups, because in terms of the speed of the game,
[05:18:11] I feel like if Tundra get like an early radiance on out, they can definitely also play very quickly through the pango there.
[05:18:17] Whereas for Aurora, I feel like with the Luna, the Brew, maybe they're going to be slightly slower paced overall.
[05:18:24] But at the same time the lanes are going to matter a lot the runes are going to matter a lot the first five six minutes of the game
[05:18:29] They are going to decide a lot of this match
[05:18:33] Alrighty then let's get into it
[05:18:36] It is game number one of this best of three series here in the upper bracket of ESI one Birmingham Tundra
[05:18:41] This is a Rory gaming. Let's send it over to our castle. We've got lyrical and Trent. Oh
[05:18:46] Oh, thank you so much Nomad and we are all and ready and into this game as well.
[05:18:54] How's it going over there, everybody?
[05:18:56] I'm stoked.
[05:18:57] We've got some new patch Dota continuing.
[05:19:00] That's right.
[05:19:01] We have turned the page here as we fly through the skies to the mid lane, but the teams
[05:19:05] are having a little standoff here.
[05:19:06] Oh, 5v5 actions.
[05:19:08] We gaze longingly across the river at each other.
[05:19:10] Just wishing to touch, you know?
[05:19:13] Okay.
[05:19:14] Yeah, that's right.
[05:19:15] Have a little passion for it.
[05:19:16] Yeah, they're always trying to high-five at the start. That's right. You know, honestly, it's a decent point
[05:19:21] I will say I am a little surprised by the last two picks
[05:19:25] There was a ton of early hate thrown the direction of Tundra towards Aurora
[05:19:30] where they banned out all Makoto's heroes and then it meant that we got in a ended up in a weird situation with an
[05:19:35] Alcaluna as our carries in this game
[05:19:39] fast heroes that one accelerate and farm and
[05:19:41] 33, runs on in, Kaori finds him, Nightfall is there too, they're going to battle it out
[05:19:47] for this.
[05:19:48] Oh!
[05:19:49] Aria's low, do they have enough to kill him off?
[05:19:51] Shackle trying to heal back up, and that means that he doesn't go down first Kaori
[05:19:55] instead as the first blood Nightfall now in further trouble will try and TP out,
[05:20:01] and it does look like he's going to be able to do just that.
[05:20:03] That's a painful one though, now he's the wait for the salve to get here.
[05:20:06] Can you imagine, can you imagine if you got the courier though, like...
[05:20:10] Ooh, you know, we could really be living in the future here.
[05:20:13] Is there still on Mira?
[05:20:15] Oh, no, Rubik, he's back in our pro games
[05:20:18] and still trash in the first five minutes.
[05:20:21] That's fair.
[05:20:23] Did get a kill, though, which was pretty nice for himself,
[05:20:26] at least, and Kaori wisely going to be bringing
[05:20:29] that salve out to Nightfall.
[05:20:30] So Nightfall comes into lane and looks
[05:20:32] like he is going to be perfectly fine.
[05:20:35] That's all I'm playing right there.
[05:20:37] Yeah.
[05:20:38] I mean, it's Kaori Phoenix.
[05:20:39] It didn't work out too well that time, but that is one thing I'm excited about when it comes to this draft.
[05:20:43] And like you were just saying, though, all those bands on Makoto and he still just gets voiced there, seems kind of okay to me.
[05:20:48] Like this is the guy who he lost sanctuary passive, but he still has the physical damage barrier.
[05:20:52] So in a matchup versus the Pangolier, still quite helpful.
[05:20:57] Something to watch for and see how he's able to do meanwhile up on the top side.
[05:21:01] They're chasing down Kaori again on the Phoenix and PTP'd out for this.
[05:21:05] So 25 seconds on the sideline, Nightfall is going to have to be self-sufficient here.
[05:21:10] That's crazy.
[05:21:11] Yeah.
[05:21:12] I mean, again, one of the, you know, most renowned Phoenix players going down twice, and especially
[05:21:17] in a lane like that is pretty painful.
[05:21:19] We all know that Shaman and Tide can be pretty frustrating.
[05:21:22] Obviously, you got some minus armor, and the Shaman just gets really hard, so it's
[05:21:27] to be really cautious on the trades before he's got the dive.
[05:21:29] Didn't quite get it this time.
[05:21:30] Sure. Chuck's a long bomb there. On the mirror.
[05:21:34] Very nice, very nice.
[05:21:37] Whitemon dude, like...
[05:21:39] What are we doing? We're gonna spend 6 months playing Jakiro and Warlock. They get a little bit of nerf, now you're playing Venom.
[05:21:45] It's just, you know...
[05:21:48] I mean, winning games is fun, and Whitemon has been one of the best fives, but man, just another kind of snooze lane trader on the list.
[05:21:56] I mean at least with Venom you can go farm later, you know, there's something there that starts to feel a little bit better at least
[05:22:03] you know getting some
[05:22:06] great some
[05:22:08] Dope of mean, but this will not as they try and run on the mirror see if they can do any extra damage
[05:22:13] They both didn't get out of time and now it does that secures that they at least get the kill going the other direction on the white mon
[05:22:21] Meanwhile at top there as you guys were watching we did get to kill there onto the time under so a bit of revenge for Aurora
[05:22:26] in the top lane.
[05:22:28] Needed.
[05:22:30] Oh yeah, so they come back in.
[05:22:32] Nightfall definitely wanting to
[05:22:34] get to a nice spot.
[05:22:36] And I will also say,
[05:22:38] with the changes to the river,
[05:22:40] I feel like that's one thing that benefits
[05:22:42] Pure and kind of
[05:22:44] hurts the Luna, right? Like, Alc
[05:22:46] loves the fact that these camps are smaller.
[05:22:48] Like, there's mudgulls around the bottom as
[05:22:50] yeah.
[05:22:52] Oh my god, this is going to die. Now, Pure might
[05:22:54] also be in trouble that his people aren't coming from WS, but will manage to survive through
[05:23:00] there as he backs out. But yeah, that's something to watch for.
[05:23:02] Yeah, that's a very good point. With Greville's greed, like, units matter more than what they
[05:23:06] are. So big benefits for Pierre in this case. And it's a classic situation where gold
[05:23:11] gets removed from the map. Thus, Alk must be better because he creates more gold.
[05:23:16] Obviously, it didn't work out earlier in the previous game, but maybe they'll
[05:23:20] have better luck here.
[05:23:21] I do think-
[05:23:22] Oh, yeah, get those little pog with- sorry, pog logs.
[05:23:27] Sorry, in the meantime, though, for the shackle play here on the nightfall, and to have another
[05:23:34] anchor smash, but not opting for it, but yeah, it's going to be interesting to see what
[05:23:40] Pierr decides to do.
[05:23:41] He's already left, and is just going to go back up this camp as he walks back to
[05:23:44] base.
[05:23:45] So it's not necessarily where you want to be as a carry at four minutes into the
[05:23:49] game.
[05:23:50] Especially when you have a Venomancer. Like he's the guy, isn't he? Shouldn't this be going a little better?
[05:23:56] I think so. BZM on mid, chasing down Makoto.
[05:24:00] Forcing him to use the bottle.
[05:24:04] And yeah, still, we'll be able to walk that one off.
[05:24:07] I think Venomancer is one of the heroes that really grabbed everyone's attention in the patch notes.
[05:24:12] Which, uh, are you gonna be all right here Makoto? You good? 33 also? 33 low just dies?
[05:24:18] I thought he could get something and ends up getting punished by Kaori
[05:24:24] Hey, bloody first four minutes here. Can't can't even bring up any of my topics
[05:24:28] People are like engaging in bad one whatnot
[05:24:31] But as I'm keeping an eye on terms of like, you know what heroes are mega busted
[05:24:34] You guys are seeing all the doom bands the life stealer bands the Lashrack fans
[05:24:37] Those heroes are all like 55% win rate in top tier pubs right now
[05:24:40] No, no man, sir is the fifth most played hero in top tier pubs 48% win rate not not up there
[05:24:45] Everyone wants it to work
[05:24:48] Yeah, it has been a little bit of a kerfuffle, that one.
[05:24:52] And if one of those, maybe again, like,
[05:24:55] win the lane, lose the game type of heroes
[05:24:58] where you can see the power of it,
[05:24:59] but it's just not translating
[05:25:01] in terms of what they need this hero to do,
[05:25:03] that might change over time,
[05:25:04] but at least for now, there's issues.
[05:25:08] I mean, I still want to see a noxious plague
[05:25:09] spread like a sight or something crazy, you know?
[05:25:11] Do you see someone made a,
[05:25:12] they use a Lotus Orb on a duel,
[05:25:14] so thus, you could actually spread duel at the end,
[05:25:17] You know what the possibilities are endless.
[05:25:20] That's a little crazy, but very neat.
[05:25:26] Another shackles here.
[05:25:28] That was supposed to die, but all right.
[05:25:31] Heading on out.
[05:25:33] Comes in for the six minute rune.
[05:25:37] Also have white one coming in here, too.
[05:25:39] Mira running through a little party mid here.
[05:25:42] Makoto now seen that they're in the area might stop that movement
[05:25:47] And we'll see it is gonna be up top right here. They're going on to Mira white mon
[05:25:54] You more hit than that's up. That's a nice Makoto
[05:25:58] well played
[05:26:00] All right Mira with a nice play where he after the astros they threaten rather he walks in it sucks bees
[05:26:05] Yeah, so he can't get the room otherwise. He was gonna get the deny so white one has actually snagged on himself
[05:26:10] They're going top on the tide again.
[05:26:13] Kairi dives in and 33 in some trouble.
[05:26:17] Will Minich forget to stick leading him alive, but in mid there's a much more action going
[05:26:22] on whether pressuring this tower with a catapult.
[05:26:25] Makoto can't really feel comfortable even with level 6 to fully dive in there.
[05:26:30] I think it's enough for them to back off around the radio rather, just respecting
[05:26:36] And likewise, no catapult also still built or
[05:26:39] Throwing us up into this top lane as we hit the wisdom timing. Okay, I can't get her and going for this
[05:26:46] And
[05:26:48] Boogie there, but
[05:26:50] Yeah, he's not gonna go. That's a wise decision. There is still the other wisdom
[05:26:55] WS down bottom has level six. Are they gonna stick around and try and make a fight happen here?
[05:27:01] It's a little weird. I
[05:27:03] I mean you get three points clap you've got to be thinking like can I kill this guy like yeah, you know
[05:27:08] You know it's got to be close. I mean did they nerf level one that much?
[05:27:12] They're going through the gate. That's what they want to try and just like secure it and get an easy one
[05:27:18] Pure going to farm
[05:27:21] I already you're nearby. There's the dive
[05:27:24] You're starting to get hit and feeling like he needs to deny himself
[05:27:28] It does get a neutral deny and also gets the last hits
[05:27:34] Kind of though, that's to be honest
[05:27:35] They don't have to spend the split and you know what they think we're keeping an eye on their wisdom trying
[05:27:39] It's still there why one does not make the thing that going for it
[05:27:42] You might have got it is to get a role in the mid lane, but it's not enough to chain it together on Makoto
[05:27:47] That was a lot used for basically no game in a region up top
[05:27:53] Makoto is gonna start to make the move Ari does have shackles though and
[05:27:58] Oh, that's annoying. That's super annoying.
[05:28:05] All right, well, after all this time, eight minute wisdom room,
[05:28:07] we'll still get taken there from Mira trying to help out this Rubik.
[05:28:12] And we'll see, you know, we'll carry off the
[05:28:16] win the game, not just there's no cats to kill.
[05:28:18] I don't think I guess there's there's Luna, but they're on the same team.
[05:28:21] So by the way, mine was nerf.
[05:28:23] You remember? So check it out. A little behind the scenes this morning
[05:28:26] While we're watching the other series me and Trent played turbo games and my curiosity got bugged and it wouldn't go above one
[05:28:32] It does go up. See there's there's some weird stuff going on man. Yeah, I don't know what happened you brother
[05:28:38] That was weird. You just we're not getting the stacks. They just said one the whole time
[05:28:43] All right, we were playing a river on a lane so it wasn't really bad
[05:28:47] clear
[05:28:48] So let's go whoever not it guys
[05:28:51] Would not recommend
[05:28:53] Feels bad. We won eventually but not that game turns out you're still just playing Marana. We're yes
[05:28:59] Whitemon doing a good job of keeping this tower down here alive the wards
[05:29:04] Scout out the wraparound that came in and that is super value
[05:29:08] So all this year might have a somewhat of a low win rate right now in terms of pubs
[05:29:13] She's some of the value you can provide
[05:29:15] I mean, I know it's an Alchemist. It still surprises me. He's top-network. This has been such an atrocious looking game for him
[05:29:23] Yeah, but all these little creeps down here as he speeds his way through that river
[05:29:28] fill in his coffers and
[05:29:32] Early levels for Kari though know all this action the Phoenix very early level six able to defend any really aggressive plays to come out here
[05:29:39] Yeah, but as long as Luna is like keeping somewhat even with the elk, this feels like somewhat
[05:29:46] okay I guess for Nightfall trying to get into this Mask of Madness and should have that flying
[05:29:52] out to him right now. Nightfall definitely the type of player that is willing to just
[05:29:58] stay farming on the map and not having to show up if he doesn't have to.
[05:30:01] A bunch of stacks made here for BZM gonna help him out as Ari lurks nearby trying
[05:30:06] get some of the XP for his 6. I was wondering if maybe there's an opportunity to perhaps
[05:30:10] come and deal with these stacks because they got the mage and stun up here and the full
[05:30:13] camp because either the Alk, the tide or the pango are going to farm them but they're not
[05:30:17] looking there to try and find their fights. They're going to try and hunt the Alchemists
[05:30:20] somewhere in the jungle. As you can see the line they're going for here. Pure
[05:30:28] is here. It looks like they're going to have to settle for Whiteman as Pure
[05:30:33] is off to the side and they actually spot for a moment. Second jump, hip the ties, gets
[05:30:40] the kill and Makoto will pass that over to Kaori.
[05:30:43] This one's to your supposed to spread guys. Walk away from the plague. Well they get
[05:30:52] the kill, they pressure the tower, but yeah, top, same thing happening right now.
[05:30:56] Yeah, I guess, how do you feel like the timings of these things work out, right?
[05:31:00] like Alka's getting towards the Radiance, but it also feels like Aurora is sort of waiting for this
[05:31:07] BK or Midas Aghanim's timing on WS to take a big fight. Do you think that Aurora need to get stuff
[05:31:13] done right now? I would like to see them use a split. I think that would not be the worst,
[05:31:20] right? You're level nine, but if he's happily farming away, perhaps it doesn't matter.
[05:31:26] Deep Ward's would be nice. I'm really interested to see how much the impact this
[05:31:29] really early Mage Slayer has her BZM because it could really hit or it might kind of do
[05:31:35] nothing you know what I mean? Like compared to the Diffusal?
[05:31:38] True. Yeah, it feels more about trying to you know just stay alive than kill the opposing
[05:31:47] lineup.
[05:31:48] It could reduce so much damage. Like if you need tags of like Luna and Void Spirit in
[05:31:51] a fight I mean it could be a massive play. If you missed that obviously it's problematic.
[05:31:58] I was just not posting it, I wasn't doing enough DPS.
[05:32:01] The...
[05:32:02] Mate, uh...
[05:32:03] Base layer?
[05:32:04] Yeah, I'm gonna check.
[05:32:05] That's good, how's it doing?
[05:32:08] Let's go to the officials, the, uh, the Redditors,
[05:32:10] so they know what's going on.
[05:32:11] Exactly, that's...
[05:32:13] Gotta keep my eyes on that.
[05:32:15] I mean, I see 14-14, so yeah, that seems right.
[05:32:18] Maybe? Okay.
[05:32:20] Cause it's gonna be 28 reductions?
[05:32:22] Yeah, that seems good.
[05:32:23] Okay.
[05:32:24] They fixed it, that's what I'm hearing.
[05:32:26] Uh, maybe.
[05:32:27] smoke up, head in bottom, trying to go for a stun and Pure not going to be able to connect
[05:32:34] onto it.
[05:32:35] Ari does still have the serpent wards if they want to try and make this move, but it feels
[05:32:39] like Aurora has figured out what's going on and is already backing away.
[05:32:44] BZM runs into the triangle where he's going to see a bunch of stacks built up.
[05:32:50] And he's like, yeah, we just feel like, yeah, drop the snakes, let's farm.
[05:32:55] Oh, yeah, yeah, they're gonna take this and you're not getting the kill on the pure either. Oh, man
[05:33:02] That is gotta be so frustrating for Aurora. I
[05:33:05] Think yeah, Mira's gonna realize what's going on here in just a moment. Well, he's gonna go for the roll up live
[05:33:12] Wash backs away. You're trying to escape
[05:33:17] Museum did he just greet out there not one to use all to you. I feel like he had to kill. Oh, and he misses
[05:33:22] All right, that's a diffusel kills moment
[05:33:25] Yeah, it's definitely a defusal kills. Yeah
[05:33:28] He's just gonna TP away, but they still a stack so very good
[05:33:36] What a strange game for a voidsphere who seems to be staring up so nicely has just been chillin
[05:33:41] He's been farmed this whole time. It's pure vessel with one kill like one zero zero
[05:33:45] We were so aggro for the first five minutes
[05:33:48] I feel like we had almost all of our kills then and now what white mon died at eleven minutes and then that's it
[05:33:53] No, no one else. It does feel like they're willing to just wait on WS back and not feel
[05:34:02] the need to try and push the tempo too much, which I mean, fair enough, right? Because like
[05:34:05] that's going to come at the same time as probably Luna Manta completed. It's not going to be
[05:34:12] able to have a BKB by that point. Yeah, and that's one of the most important things about
[05:34:16] all these changes to Broomaster is that we, the nerf don't actually affect him at all when
[05:34:21] he has that level 12 plus the Agnes because it's still going to be like you have a level 18 split.
[05:34:28] So the hero is still really, really busted at this point and this is probably his strongest
[05:34:32] point in the entire game. Well pure at 15 minutes is going to be claiming his Radiant
[05:34:42] and we'll see if at that point Tundra have any interest in fighting.
[05:34:47] It does feel like they could just keep farming, just immediately going to drop the suit for Nova, finds Ari, and will blow him up.
[05:34:56] Now, tell us how they feel about this game. We'll get a kill, use everything, and then back away.
[05:35:01] Yep. I can still hold the split too, so like, if there was a big fight breaking out, you know?
[05:35:05] Yeah.
[05:35:06] There's always that as a bit of a backup option.
[05:35:08] As pure...
[05:35:09] Gonna crack a bottle down here on WS, they're gonna try and go over this plate with the pango.
[05:35:13] A little bit crazy to make this move, but we'll get a lot of damage and the rollback they
[05:35:19] kill him.
[05:35:20] WS actually goes down.
[05:35:21] Wow.
[05:35:22] Big hit done.
[05:35:23] Yeah, that was huge.
[05:35:24] Now, big buff.
[05:35:25] You're in Dakota.
[05:35:26] Maybe he lives versus the whole pango, you know?
[05:35:28] Maybe the stuns aren't enough.
[05:35:29] They're trying to go on up here now, and yep, they move the lift, the stun, the
[05:35:36] I don't know.
[05:35:37] It's gonna try to go on up here now, and yep, they move, the lift, the stun, connects,
[05:35:44] self-advance, not gonna go out, but Makoto cleans up.
[05:35:47] So that's the much bigger kill.
[05:35:49] Yeah, big value.
[05:35:52] Unfortunately, I have a Tundra, and oh, so we get a couple of new items.
[05:35:57] We do have the Essence Fiddler on the white mawn.
[05:36:02] So first time I'm getting a chance to see this.
[05:36:04] It can be very interesting.
[05:36:07] Let's get the cast that that is.
[05:36:08] And so he's got like the ground targeted little sentry thing
[05:36:11] he can do. Right.
[05:36:13] Should be very interesting also providing true vision
[05:36:15] to like help chase people down as they do jump on the mirror.
[05:36:17] Shackled up and in trouble.
[05:36:19] Go on.
[05:36:20] You asked trying to roll out onto him, but.
[05:36:24] Will not be able to force this issue.
[05:36:27] He's very close to agonim scepter.
[05:36:30] On and then.
[05:36:31] Oh.
[05:36:33] A little pause on pause accidentally. Swipsy. The other one was the consecrated reps was picked up
[05:36:38] quite a bit earlier there on 3-3, which is kind of a cool item on the hero.
[05:36:41] It just makes you a little bit tankier, gives you attributes, and you just kind of wander around
[05:36:45] a little bit quicker. It's kind of nice. What do you think about this, the elk passing out
[05:36:53] the agonimceptors? He's going for it again, is he? Okay. I mean, we saw this earlier today.
[05:36:59] I mean
[05:37:01] It is really good with the pango and the mage layer and obviously the diffusel as well. So that kind of makes sense
[05:37:06] It's pretty good with the tide
[05:37:09] I think either of those are solid. I'd probably go pango. I think this is the more logical one
[05:37:13] Agreed, especially versus brewmaster. That feels really nice
[05:37:18] Ah, okay. So what what is the change now when I when I pass an eggs
[05:37:23] Your base bonus goal and max most will per kill by six per melted agonist scepter
[05:37:27] Okay, so the idea being this is my Midas, right?
[05:37:32] I'm giving the the eggs to my buds so that I get more gold when I do other stuff.
[05:37:36] So in the long run, I'm investing in you to invest in me and that's beautiful, all right?
[05:37:42] We call that children, all right?
[05:37:44] That's your kids taking care of you in the late game.
[05:37:47] All right?
[05:37:47] Oh, I see.
[05:37:48] I gotta get my kids to Magnum Scepters.
[05:37:50] Yeah.
[05:37:51] So I'm in a nice home.
[05:37:52] We're not going to the old folks home, that's what I'm hearing.
[05:37:55] Well, just a nice one.
[05:37:56] Yeah, just one with Mario Kart and Donut.
[05:37:59] I like that.
[05:38:00] Makoto goes in and now they find and kill off R.E.B.Z.M. trying to play a little bit
[05:38:06] of cleanup himself.
[05:38:07] Isn't it going to really be able to do that much, seems.
[05:38:12] What patches the old folks home on do you think?
[05:38:14] I mean, it's like 6.83.
[05:38:16] Yeah, yeah.
[05:38:17] I mean, a little holo-ha-ha or something like that.
[05:38:22] Yeah, that sounds good.
[05:38:25] I think that that was one of the patches that was played when Dota was at its like most
[05:38:33] played ever.
[05:38:34] I'm not sure.
[05:38:35] Yeah, a lot of people have memories of that one.
[05:38:37] Yeah.
[05:38:38] There's a lot of people left.
[05:38:39] We just don't know what happened.
[05:38:44] Oh, jeez.
[05:38:47] Alright.
[05:38:48] Tech is yours.
[05:38:49] We lose 3-3.
[05:38:50] He'll be back.
[05:38:51] Surely.
[05:38:52] So the pressure in this top tower, in terms of timings, again, this agonist feels like
[05:39:02] it will be a big one.
[05:39:04] Luna is going in for the Hurricane Pike action.
[05:39:07] So we're not seeing like an early BKB buying stretch of the imagination, and that does
[05:39:12] mean that like Tithe Hunter should be incredibly strong.
[05:39:16] 33 hasn't really been a force in this game yet in terms of showing up for any fight.
[05:39:22] I don't think we even see in a ravage yet if we must not mistake it.
[05:39:25] No, no ravages and no splits.
[05:39:27] We're just hanging out, you know?
[05:39:30] Yeah, apparently.
[05:39:31] We're all just waiting.
[05:39:32] I mean, Aurora are fully in control when it comes to Roche with this lineup.
[05:39:36] They could easily be doing it, I think at any point here with the abilities of like Phoenix and Broomaster to just control things.
[05:39:43] They could be very difficult for the Radiant Contest.
[05:39:45] Especially now that they've stolen assets, right?
[05:39:47] Hmm, even better now. WS gonna walk into Beezie Minari.
[05:39:50] How you doing? Makoto shows up, no shackles for you, has the split now finally, and well
[05:39:56] Auri's gonna go down, can they catch and kill BZM as well?
[05:40:00] If he has a remnant it's gonna be a pick, so they're not gonna be able to drop one as
[05:40:04] he lands.
[05:40:05] Oh that was cool.
[05:40:06] Swashes down towards the tide with the Vlad's, heals right back up.
[05:40:09] That's nice.
[05:40:11] But there it is.
[05:40:12] First agonimceptor done, and transferred over, they've gotten on the keggo.
[05:40:16] Okay.
[05:40:17] Mira trying to tumbler away here counter tumble from three three my god
[05:40:23] they're tumbling everywhere nice
[05:40:26] they're under an obstetric combo right now if they want to try to make a play on them
[05:40:33] but they're also three threes just going in
[05:40:37] oh man night falls back in a way they see the eggs now and mascot madness
[05:40:45] running man to back out by nightfall while pure stunning himself in the back
[05:40:51] They're just dodging man. They don't want any of it. Oh, they're trying to get to the twin gate
[05:40:57] Barely oh man, I can't believe they got him
[05:41:00] Yeah, I'm here died on the other side
[05:41:03] He died from alchemist burn on the other side of the twin gate. Yeah
[05:41:06] Yeah.
[05:41:07] That's pretty high.
[05:41:10] Oh, two fake gold lead.
[05:41:13] Oh, you can see the attitude here from Tundra as well.
[05:41:16] BZM, he was trying to slide between the diffusel and the blink next, and he's gone for the blink,
[05:41:20] so he wants to get these fights started, get rolling through.
[05:41:23] Right.
[05:41:24] And now that, I think that gives them the edge now in these Roche attempts.
[05:41:28] They're going to just jump onto the Tormentor.
[05:41:30] Should be very easy with their lineup.
[05:41:34] An interesting whitemon is queuing up his own agonist chapter because he feels like this noxious play
[05:41:41] Lowering the magic resistance is actually going to be pretty impactful and to be honest
[05:41:47] Yeah, like they don't have a pipe builder right now on dire
[05:41:52] This is gonna be a ton of magical damage coming out
[05:41:57] Yeah, I wonder what WS is next I don't will be actually like you could make an argument for the pipe
[05:42:02] I don't think it's much of an AC game and then they're not always just like straight up a fresher, honestly
[05:42:10] Good blink out Ari gets away from Makoto
[05:42:14] They had an inkling of where they were going by Tundra and both pure and Ari get out
[05:42:21] So dodging when they want to getting continually farmed pure is working towards a BKB and
[05:42:26] And this is looking pretty freaking good for Tundra.
[05:42:33] Aurora basically just saying we're going to win the big T5 when it counts.
[05:42:38] And it's certainly possible with their heroes, but they're giving up a lot of space on the map for it.
[05:42:43] And it's put a lot of pressure on Mira as well as Kaori.
[05:42:47] Pick up lotuses, Kori, almost done with the solar crest.
[05:42:59] And yeah, the steady farming, I'm guessing we're just going to be seeing some greedy
[05:43:04] action the whole way through.
[05:43:05] Oh, of course.
[05:43:06] Yeah, we've learned that greedy is the enchantment for everybody.
[05:43:10] Yeah.
[05:43:11] It doesn't matter what your role is in all the games we've been seeing.
[05:43:13] Look at Ari, man.
[05:43:15] He just dropped snakes in the middle just to push out the lanes
[05:43:20] Farming up. I can't wait to see him chuck in the earn a conda
[05:43:25] I've been
[05:43:28] Another move through oh god
[05:43:30] It's like an earn that he throws and it comes out of it. That's why it's called earn a conda
[05:43:34] You know, it says the snake jar magic the gathering card. That's what it is. Mmm TP out. No way to stop it
[05:43:45] Yeah, they're good. They're chilling. And I mean, I think the biggest thing here is that
[05:43:54] we just have seen Tundra sort of anticipate every move that Aurora has made to try and
[05:44:00] catch them, and they're not able to like start a good fight. And this feels like almost
[05:44:06] desperation a little bit here to get something done, and Tundra willing to fight right
[05:44:10] into it.
[05:44:11] Yeah, the Aether Remnant is going to be so important. It's like going to set
[05:44:14] up everything right yeah it's like blink clap hit a remnant I'll do a telekinesis and maybe
[05:44:20] burst them a down through it they scanned they know they're up there words words are
[05:44:23] so good these kind of fights they know they're up there they jump on a BZM can't catch them
[05:44:27] though right the beginning pure runs in finds the stunt in trouble dead Makoto is out of
[05:44:32] their nightfall trying to beat in the 33 as that fight continues on that side it's
[05:44:38] WS who is almost dead inside this pandas and they're not able to really chase down
[05:44:43] Anybody else so three three's just chasing nightfall at the same time. Hello
[05:44:47] Come back friends out from WS
[05:44:50] But yeah nightfall is the one that's sort of been left to the side and gonna save the ravage to make sure that nightfall cannot get away
[05:44:57] Does have another four-staff PCM chasing the rolling thunder is wearing out soon
[05:45:02] But nightfall is in a lot of trouble
[05:45:07] It was almost enough if you got low ground there maybe he might have made it
[05:45:13] Great positioning there from Tundra.
[05:45:16] The scan, the hiding in the trees, the planting of the ward, and they immediately blow up Makoto.
[05:45:20] There's just no way they can win this fight if Makoto goes down straight off the bat.
[05:45:28] Huge plays and Tundra now head on into the pit with wards with everything else.
[05:45:34] We're going to take another look at this and how badly that fight ended up going.
[05:45:39] Four was actually so bad that they didn't even want to show it again.
[05:45:43] It was, you know, we just can't do it. Look at 3-3, I didn't do that.
[05:45:46] That was so easy.
[05:45:48] What's going on, guys?
[05:45:51] Jeez.
[05:45:53] I blame TGov, he kept saying, you know,
[05:45:55] to me such good games, really close back and forth.
[05:45:57] I mean, in a sense, it is so kind of close.
[05:46:00] But like, yeah.
[05:46:02] I mean, if you just kill one hero, they have the gold lead on her roar then, right?
[05:46:06] That's all it takes.
[05:46:09] Peer, he lifts somebody for the whole fight.
[05:46:12] I mean, oh, the Erniconda.
[05:46:15] That's right, just simply lift him. Yeah, maybe he just gets more stacks of curiosity. That'll save us.
[05:46:21] I mean, a good spell steal could make the difference, but it's hard to make up 10k gold indifference.
[05:46:32] I'm surprised I was not just throwing this Erniconda on random mutual camps.
[05:46:35] I kind of felt like that's where it was going to go.
[05:46:39] I mostly just want to see him use it.
[05:46:41] Oh, very good.
[05:46:43] It's nice. All this is happening.
[05:46:45] Look at that. Look at him.
[05:46:47] Oh, yeah.
[05:46:49] He gets the split off.
[05:46:51] And Whitemon is up on the high ground.
[05:46:55] And WS has 15 seconds left to run.
[05:46:59] Can WS make it out?
[05:47:01] Dude, if they can't punish this, this is just like...
[05:47:03] I mean, I know like X3, 3s was grabbing the wave by their tier 3,
[05:47:07] Oh, this is a bad time.
[05:47:09] Oh, blink.
[05:47:10] Okay, WS gets away.
[05:47:12] Nice.
[05:47:14] Maybe a steal from here?
[05:47:17] It's probably just...
[05:47:18] Oh, there we go.
[05:47:18] Swash, easy.
[05:47:19] Oh, dude, he was so ready for that.
[05:47:22] I think he...
[05:47:23] He knew.
[05:47:24] Oh.
[05:47:28] Alright, that was impressive.
[05:47:30] That was nice.
[05:47:34] Nothing for free in this game
[05:47:36] is what I feel like I'm learning and as we kind of saw in the last series too that like these
[05:47:42] sides of the map farming patterns are not as valuable as they used to be. As BZM is out way too
[05:47:49] far he is going to get punished and caught and Whitemon now going to throw out the old teams.
[05:47:54] It's not Agni and Stechter upgraded as of yet but BZM as the Sun comes out they pop a
[05:47:59] ravage hits on the board. WS in trouble is going to fall, Nightfall not that many places
[05:48:05] left to go, but it is shadowbladed. And now, Hex found it will be enough to kill off the Luna.
[05:48:13] Mira trying desperately to stay alive, but E2 will fall a triple kill for BZM post-ages.
[05:48:21] Give the fish. They're eating the fish. Only four yummy fish this game because the
[05:48:26] The battles just have not been there.
[05:48:32] Well, well well well.
[05:48:34] Well done by Tundra.
[05:48:36] Like, the layering there of the ravage on top of the agg,
[05:48:38] like you finally get a decent agg that looks like maybe
[05:48:40] it's gonna help you reset this fight and get some control
[05:48:42] and 3-2 just essentially cancels it out with the ravage.
[05:48:44] And then it's like, I don't even need ravage.
[05:48:46] I'm so strong right now that my hero's busted
[05:48:48] even without my ult.
[05:48:52] It's very true. Like they got an AC on pure
[05:48:54] sure that they cannot kill this radio.
[05:48:56] No.
[05:48:57] It has very clearly become too difficult.
[05:49:01] As you can see there, the replay completely alone, they were able to get the control out
[05:49:07] afterwards, but just do not have the damage they need to find a burst.
[05:49:11] He just spends so much to kill the Aegis.
[05:49:13] And then back in the world of Ravage, Mira, he got himself a Erniconda.
[05:49:20] Okay, alright.
[05:49:22] Alright, oh wait, how they're rolling?
[05:49:24] Oh come on, come on, let's help them out.
[05:49:26] There we go. WS getting out, meanwhile.
[05:49:29] 33 is chasing Makoto.
[05:49:31] We're all over the place right now.
[05:49:34] This is a very chaotic game.
[05:49:36] And now they stole the stun from the elk.
[05:49:39] But Mira, in some trouble here, if EZM finds them,
[05:49:43] it doesn't look like it's gonna be enough damage.
[05:49:45] Just barely getting away.
[05:49:47] Oh lordy.
[05:49:49] Alright, well,
[05:49:51] You know what might as you're saying did it himself bought his own eggs bootstraps and whatnot
[05:49:55] This might not having any boots because you know, he's not a man sir, right?
[05:49:59] I don't know where the boots go on this guy, but
[05:50:03] Colin WS here there's no split. I don't know what he's doing out here. He's my this team man. He had two stacks
[05:50:08] I can't even use a lot
[05:50:10] They were just gonna walk after him, but I guess they just don't have the stuns that can keep pace. I
[05:50:15] I mean, he's trying to farm to place some catch up here, get towards an A.C.A. to zone, but
[05:50:21] they're pinging right on top of him.
[05:50:26] And I have a feeling Tundra, they're ready to pressure and force some reaction for Marura,
[05:50:31] who again do not have a way to deal with the magical damage that's coming out.
[05:50:35] And they also have massive amounts of physical damage.
[05:50:37] I mean, Tundra is just monstrous right now.
[05:50:48] And just slow this down.
[05:50:49] Lakoto throwing out some remnants.
[05:50:52] See some fire spirits from Paori as well.
[05:50:56] But that's a tier three tower dead,
[05:50:58] while simultaneously Nightfall is pressuring at bottom.
[05:51:01] Almost at the Silver Edge.
[05:51:03] Still needs a BKB after the fact.
[05:51:05] And despite of the work up top, the wave is still here in the mid lane, so top lane does go down
[05:51:12] And now they have silver edge
[05:51:13] Uh-oh
[05:51:14] Okay, nice dodge on the anchor
[05:51:17] Second set, they're gonna have to deal with this at some point
[05:51:21] But, uh, not wanting to fight apparently
[05:51:25] It's just gonna keep on farming
[05:51:27] Which, if they're not gonna pressure for the other tier three, then yeah, this is the right call
[05:51:31] I mean, you know, he doesn't have the BKB yet, so like
[05:51:34] like yeah he's not rated to be the night call that's true he's a found
[05:51:39] himself yet he doesn't have some honesty we just passed him a 4200 gold item you
[05:51:44] know yeah tired
[05:51:50] almost on that next agonist there
[05:51:57] roche capable of responding in a minute 40 there's another smoke up now
[05:52:03] Tundra scene if they can find somebody and just blow them up outside of the map
[05:52:08] Well, I like this idea of just buying the site giving it to white monster he can or so I buy the staffer give it to white mon
[05:52:14] He can just buy site. Oh, yeah, that's pretty good
[05:52:19] Sorry Kodo jump hex lift trying to keep him alive, but the anchor is down
[05:52:25] You need to keep it alive the silence is there
[05:52:28] And now everybody else tries to jump away, but Kairi is going to fall, does not buy that.
[05:52:34] Oh, Tender just in.
[05:52:37] Oh, whoa.
[05:52:39] He's thinking about it.
[05:52:42] It definitely is.
[05:52:48] More damage out is Tundra to take a second stat of Rax, but they do finish the ACs,
[05:52:54] because they have one of their own.
[05:52:55] They have a Silver Edge.
[05:52:57] They just, they need more gold, man.
[05:53:00] He gave the Ags the 3-3, like does he really need it?
[05:53:04] I mean, why won't work so hard? Reward him, you know?
[05:53:09] That's good.
[05:53:10] Tide Ags is good. Also, 33 is the captain. You gotta do what you're told.
[05:53:14] That's the bare point, actually.
[05:53:16] That's how you get your hero that you want the next draft right there.
[05:53:19] Exactly.
[05:53:20] I'm not going to lie, it's looking pretty bad for Old Aurora here.
[05:53:29] You know what?
[05:53:30] We had a 97% win rate game that got turned around.
[05:53:33] That's true.
[05:53:34] It happened.
[05:53:35] It could happen again.
[05:53:36] We're on a new patch.
[05:53:39] That makes it more likely, less likely.
[05:53:42] What do you think?
[05:53:43] I think more likely.
[05:53:45] More likely.
[05:53:46] They overextend.
[05:53:47] You know, I'm just gonna get a little silly and buy a bad item.
[05:53:51] Oh, no.
[05:53:52] I couldn't get the blink off in time.
[05:53:56] This was not the time to use your one time for the Rubik's
[05:53:58] pick.
[05:53:59] No.
[05:54:00] He's gone now.
[05:54:01] That was it.
[05:54:02] You had your moment where you begged, and the drafter's like,
[05:54:05] well, you are a Rubik's player.
[05:54:06] He's a Grandmaster.
[05:54:07] It must be good now if he really wants it.
[05:54:10] Three-three.
[05:54:11] Hello.
[05:54:12] Please leave this outpost.
[05:54:13] We would like to keep it.
[05:54:15] And WS is gonna be forced into using the split, they get the lift up onto Tide, now turning over to Whitemon.
[05:54:22] Some damage, but I'm telling you, I ain't feeling that great to be WS right now.
[05:54:27] As the chase continues, WS, where are you gonna go? Where are you gonna find help?
[05:54:33] Another blink when he comes out of this.
[05:54:35] He's gonna wait for the sheathas to be down.
[05:54:38] And looks like he will be able to survive as he comes out of his ulti form.
[05:54:45] Here though.
[05:54:47] Looking pretty strong.
[05:54:48] They get the hypnotized, pulls them back, brings them low ravage down.
[05:54:52] Good damage out, so they have enough of the stun they will.
[05:54:54] Two for Nova is already used.
[05:54:56] They buy back on the Rubik, and now great stun rate.
[05:54:59] Doing what damage they can. The break is there.
[05:55:01] They take down the Tidehunter.
[05:55:03] They kill off the Shaman. Can they find more?
[05:55:05] Aurora, you gotta go now.
[05:55:07] And they will.
[05:55:08] Oh, they get the stun now if you want to BZM.
[05:55:10] BZM is on Demira.
[05:55:12] Makoto thinking about a Shader.
[05:55:14] back in.
[05:55:15] You're, ugh, it's a little bit scary.
[05:55:17] The one's done, they have enough to take down Makoto.
[05:55:21] Looks like they're just gonna try and run on BZM.
[05:55:23] Wise decisions.
[05:55:24] Still, that is, tier three tower taken and only racks left.
[05:55:28] Okay, but what, buyback on the Rubik, I think?
[05:55:30] Was this bend?
[05:55:31] Yeah, pretty value.
[05:55:32] And that is actually a sign of life here.
[05:55:35] Maybe they played it a bit aggro.
[05:55:37] I can't believe how well that went considering the Ravage.
[05:55:39] I mean, I just see a Tidehunter who just, there's zero BKBs in any team, so he's
[05:55:43] He's just letting it rip right now.
[05:55:44] That problem might be solved here soon, at the very least for Nightfalls.
[05:55:48] He is closing in on the BKB.
[05:55:51] But they held their formation.
[05:55:52] They managed to defend their high ground a bit here.
[05:55:55] And this was really the best chance to actually help get them going in this game.
[05:55:59] Man, how does he survive through that so long still?
[05:56:07] I guess the Cures is running away.
[05:56:08] They lose a lot of their damage.
[05:56:09] So they don't have to finish all those kills as they fall off on the ravage
[05:56:14] I like that cut to 3-3 in the middle of that one. That was good
[05:56:18] What have we done? I've hit a giant ravage, but nothing good is happening for us
[05:56:22] And the lead does falter a little bit more here up to a 5% folks
[05:56:28] Get your Hopium up
[05:56:31] There's the link back by Mira will not be caught and killed by PCM yet, but now
[05:56:35] Now, ends up dying inside the base and they know that that is a dieback.
[05:56:41] That one hurt.
[05:56:42] Yeah, I think this falls gen 2.
[05:56:44] Are they going to go off of that?
[05:56:46] Now, Nightfall does have BKB here and 33 Ravage in 20.
[05:56:51] If they take a bad fight at this exact moment, this actually might look kind of bad for
[05:56:55] them.
[05:56:56] 33 jumps in pure, kills off Kaori though, he buys back immediately pure, is in pretty
[05:57:00] deep.
[05:57:01] The lower down onto 33, 7 seconds, no Ravage.
[05:57:05] WS has to run. This does not look a great.
[05:57:07] They think about going back in, they fall as they've already found the kill,
[05:57:11] and now wait for the PJP to wear up Ravage on 3!
[05:57:15] They find that they kill and tundra.
[05:57:18] They're too strong as they will take game number one.
[05:57:22] Yeah, just a couple of godlike heroes there popping off.
[05:57:26] 9, 0, 9, 10, 2, and 6 to be easy and pure.
[05:57:31] I'm not in a PCM anger mode, look at that.
[05:57:34] They're not locked inious right now.
[05:57:36] It's horribly pure, a little more jovial though,
[05:57:38] that you know, running around, passes the magnum,
[05:57:40] see it a little bit more fun with it.
[05:57:42] But in the end, that was all Tundra, baby.
[05:57:46] Yeah, it's interesting.
[05:57:47] I think that Alchemist really created some problems of,
[05:57:52] like they didn't have heroes to chase and kill pure,
[05:57:55] or they just didn't manage to connect to there.
[05:57:58] And then it's a question of like,
[05:57:59] Okay, well if Luna isn't joining the fight until Kira is already online
[05:58:03] Kind of don't have a tiny
[05:58:06] Really good out pick in this game
[05:58:09] Yeah, and also just like the way that they played it on Aurora was like
[05:58:12] They picked this Luna and we're thinking so fast fast and go in and timings and agonums and they did not
[05:58:17] Have a chance to utilize those timings. I don't know if they should have pushed more
[05:58:20] Maybe they just felt like okay. We missed like our earliest timings and now now what you know
[05:58:26] like let's wait for the one fight but they basically just got outplayed at those tinier moments at like
[05:58:31] 15 minutes where they miss a couple of kills they don't may as well slow down any of the core heroes
[05:58:35] on the side of tundra and they kind of just did nothing like you're buying a spirit vessel on your
[05:58:40] voice spirit who then doesn't fight for 25 minutes you know it was awkward one of those games.
[05:58:47] Well and good map reading as well but they managed to take this one our first game here
[05:58:53] in this series, Tundra versus Aurora. Solid performance from Tundra.
[05:59:01] It really, really was lyrical indeed. I mean, Tundra, they're just showing up here in the
[05:59:07] Arthur Bracket. It wouldn't absolutely be that. I mean, see, Governor, is Alka-Lystopee? Is Pangalyropee?
[05:59:13] Are both of them OP? Or are Tundra just OP? Okay, I think yes to a little bit of everything
[05:59:19] in your questions, but for the time that I think they really showcase what Alchemist can do, right?
[05:59:25] Yes, there's been a little bit of a buff of the Gold generation for Alchem that allows him to
[05:59:30] base farm, but if we're just a concept of giving Alchemist a certain heroes, can break Linus, right?
[05:59:35] In this game, it was the perfect example. We saw earlier Yandex trying to achieve the same
[05:59:39] thing. It didn't really work out, but you give an axe to BZM on the pangler and that just
[05:59:43] compounds to a game, which is like him just really running into Aurora. Like they weren't ready
[05:59:48] for this. Like they had an
[05:59:52] out on the brew master that a
[05:59:53] full vessel on the void spirit.
[05:59:54] So he opted for flight rather
[05:59:56] than going for like tire into
[05:59:57] shard and they had all these
[05:59:59] fighting items on Aurora across
[06:00:00] the tour that cause and just
[06:00:02] one pango out in the might of
[06:00:04] Tundra. They had nothing in
[06:00:06] them to try and fight it. So
[06:00:08] yeah, you Yeah, this was
[06:00:09] just a really. Perfect
[06:00:11] execution of what out can do
[06:00:12] in the correct ads giving
[06:00:14] lineup. Winter I mean, given
[06:00:16] that it was a last pick on
[06:00:17] out you know could something else have done better or was it just no I don't
[06:00:23] think so I think they didn't really have a lot of choices at the end it was just
[06:00:27] this pangol being I think we're not gonna see any more pangol here you know
[06:00:30] given away to turn reading that the hero is just very very obnoxious even with
[06:00:34] the build I think it's very very smart to get the mage here since it's changed
[06:00:38] to physical damage right now it works really well with pangol and it kind
[06:00:42] of just made a lot of the Aurora damage in the early game just gone you
[06:00:46] like the Rubik, the Phoenix. They had this vessel on voice 3, but they just couldn't do anything
[06:00:50] everywhere. The Pangolier went, surely he had the axe from the out. He just kind of just pushed
[06:00:55] them back alone and that created so much space for the rest of the team to farm. So I felt like
[06:01:00] if I were to choose one here, I think Pangolier was the biggest problem here for Aurora.
[06:01:06] But like it seems like such a simple concept for the outcome is just to give them a
[06:01:09] middle lane or an agonims to keep themselves farming, but that's not really changed through
[06:01:14] the patch. So why is that suddenly looking good now? I mean, because the pangol is broken,
[06:01:19] when you give a broken hero help, it becomes more broken, you know, that's pretty much it.
[06:01:25] That is true. That is true. I mean, is there anything which, which looks good for Aurora in
[06:01:29] this game? So you guys, is there anything which went right for them, which you think they
[06:01:32] could build off a game to? I mean, they did have item timings to play on, right? I mean,
[06:01:38] Makoto had the early vessel and he traded his own farm for the fight. WS had a really nice
[06:01:44] I guess timing. He hit level 12 with acts really well. The problem is didn't sync up together like the rubic pick didn't really come to life. There wasn't any major spell stills night full went from pike after you did ask me to be positive. I felt like an accident.
[06:01:57] negative. But like the point is to say they had moments to fight. It's just they didn't
[06:02:03] they never found the window and it really just bought circles back to the pangolin point that
[06:02:08] winter's mentioning it. So if you have a player that's willing to play this hero and be obnoxious,
[06:02:13] but you are first of all, you have to try and kill a pango, then you also have to try and
[06:02:16] kill a tide who will buy this silly, bloody rap site and that's going to give you barriers
[06:02:22] and stuff. So you're going to get through the barriers of a pango, the barriers of a
[06:02:25] tight hunter plus the crack and blubber of a tight hunter. And then one thing that I really
[06:02:30] loved about Tundra is why I'm playing this is Alk went to the jungle relatively early
[06:02:33] in this game, and you set the Venom just take the lane. So your Venom had all the levels
[06:02:37] in the world, your Alk was farming the axe, your Pango was shoving the waves, 33 was playing
[06:02:41] like partial comeback against the Lune lane. And then for Aurora, there was no real
[06:02:46] big moment for them. Like Bruce, what's he meant to do? Like he can't split by
[06:02:49] himself into anything, right? It's just awkward. So they just lacked damage. So
[06:02:53] Yeah, they have the items, but other things just fell apart for the Monoborra.
[06:02:57] So, yeah.
[06:02:58] Yeah, that kind of leads into my next point, Winter, like, there wasn't any, like, clear
[06:03:02] answer for the brewmaster, and they also had this vessel timing on the void, which
[06:03:06] was decent.
[06:03:07] So then, why weren't they able to convert those into kills on the map?
[06:03:11] Why did they feel so sort of muted in this first game?
[06:03:15] Yeah, again, you know, I felt like every time they tried to do something, the
[06:03:18] pangler just went over, like, the pangler just bullied the supports too much, like
[06:03:22] Rubik and Phoenix around into the pangol. Sure, maybe they don't die in one
[06:03:25] Storchbuckle with the mage there, but they can't fight, they can't play on the map,
[06:03:28] they can't stay on the map. It's just so hard to play. Like the pangol,
[06:03:32] he's sitting around the middle area, he's just mirroring whatever Aurora is doing,
[06:03:37] and he's like a wall, you know, he's blocking everything. Everyone else is,
[06:03:40] basically imagine, everyone else is just farming, hitting creeps, and there's a pangol
[06:03:44] moving around in the middle section of the map, taking runes and blocking every
[06:03:47] you're trying to make and you're playing against an elk that has reverse green you know so you're under a lot of
[06:03:53] pressure in terms of economical advantage and you're not gaining anything with your heroes
[06:03:58] You're not having better scaling you know you're farming better
[06:04:01] You're just forced to take fights with all these early game items
[06:04:03] And you don't have damage to win the fights because of the mage layer the barriers and whatever they have you know
[06:04:08] So it's just a very very tough game and it all comes back to this pangler
[06:04:11] They could not deal with the pangler and the pangler had the elk to give him an axe and the game was just so hard
[06:04:17] I think there is one thing though. There is one thing right Luna of course with the facets getting removed from her
[06:04:22] She didn't get Moonstone really integrated back into her right because in these upper games
[06:04:27] She would look towards take the Moonstone facet with agonims after your Manta and then when you step up you blow up a hero
[06:04:34] So your comeback mechanism was just an abundance of magic damage now. That's not really a thing
[06:04:39] You've only got the moon shield facet integrated into your your Luna orbit, whatever your blaze
[06:04:44] So it's like, maybe Luna was like a potential mispick, sorry, as I try to combine the words.
[06:04:52] Happens. But yeah, lacking that facet, lacking that kind of concept for Luna would have really
[06:04:57] helped in some of these engagements. Because an axe Luna behind a brew, behind a voice for
[06:05:01] it would have felt really, really good. Alas, it didn't happen.
[06:05:05] Alright, dig up. Last point I want to touch on then. And that was the white mon, Venomancer.
[06:05:12] I personally really enjoyed it, but do we think that this hero is as strong as we were expecting, you know, we're going to see some more of it?
[06:05:19] Uh, yes and no. I think certain lanes will enable Venomarser to feel good, like the casual little snake bite with a carry that wants to get kills.
[06:05:28] It is like a scuffed jacquero like Winter and I were talking about. So in lanes where you want to try and bully a ranged four, it makes sense.
[06:05:35] In other games, you might want a bit of lockdown, but I think this game gave a lot of merit to Venomarser being a pesky little new addition.
[06:05:42] into the five-period pool.
[06:05:44] Yeah, so I've never got to see that hex come out
[06:05:46] and see the AOLT with that.
[06:05:49] That could have been cool,
[06:05:50] but alas, maybe game two, maybe game two.
[06:05:52] And I'm sure that's what Aurora is saying right now
[06:05:56] as well, maybe game two,
[06:05:57] because game number one, certainly not.
[06:05:59] There's Tundra, one game in front.
[06:06:01] Let's throw it over to a break after it.
[06:06:02] We'll be able to game number two to find out
[06:06:04] how the series is gonna go down.
[06:06:35] I'm on top and I know what that brings Spotlight action
[06:06:53] I'm in charge, pulling and stringing I don't lose, every day wins
[06:06:58] Spotlight shines and I'm getting locked in Spotlight action
[06:07:01] Can't steal my shame, I'm giving up now Open said that I get it so loud
[06:07:06] But if it's family, I'm giving them proud Yeah, watch me whip
[06:07:09] Pull the top top and get it shut down I've been a king in hell and I'm loud
[06:07:13] Little subjects not picking my crown Yeah, watch me whip
[06:07:19] Can't pay to do my thing I stick fly just like I got wings
[06:07:23] I'm on top and I know what that brings Squat like action
[06:07:27] I'm in charge, pulling them strings I don't lose, everyday wins
[06:07:31] Spotlight shines and I'm getting locked in Spotlight action
[06:07:35] Getting to the top when I'm doing reports Everyday freshman, I'm dribbin' in stores
[06:07:39] My destination, I'm staying on course Yeah, right on track
[06:07:43] They wanna test me, I've been through wars Never boxing, never in reckons, I'm walls
[06:07:47] The more I'm beaten, I've been open in doors Run that back
[06:07:56] Getting picked and doing my thing I stay fly, feel like I've got wings
[06:08:00] I'm on top and I know what that brings, spotlight action
[06:08:04] I'm in charge and pullin' her strings
[06:08:06] I don't lose everything, 이건
[06:08:12] I'm on top and I know what that brings
[06:08:33] Spotlight action, spotlight action
[06:08:35] I'm in charge, following them strings
[06:08:37] I don't lose, everything brings
[06:08:39] Spotlight change and I'm getting locked in
[06:09:11] Like everything that holds me down
[06:09:15] She's chin up as my hands lay ground
[06:09:21] She's taken on the world and asked for more
[06:09:27] She said time opens up all the closing doors
[06:09:33] And she sees beauty everywhere
[06:09:37] All I can do is stop and stare
[06:09:40] On our way
[06:09:56] He's getting to the trouching seasons
[06:10:03] He's screaming for and for
[06:10:07] That's never reasoned
[06:10:09] In here
[06:10:11] It's at the promises
[06:10:13] Whisper on the wind
[06:10:15] In here
[06:10:17] Do not do it all
[06:10:19] Like I can
[06:10:21] But she seems to be in the air
[06:10:23] From the wind
[06:10:25] All I can do is stop and
[06:10:27] Still on the wind
[06:10:33] She seems to be in the air
[06:10:35] All I can do is stop and stare on the way
[06:10:43] And we've been through this all, but I've been time-born
[06:10:49] I could keep on screaming, still with race down on the floor
[06:10:55] And I don't like me being this way, I have on a hill
[06:11:31] And she sees me everywhere All I can do is stop and stare
[06:11:38] On the way
[06:11:43] And she sees me everywhere All I can do is stop and stare
[06:11:50] On the way
[06:11:53] On the way
[06:12:31] What's the use in trying? It never gets away
[06:12:46] If you see me flying, you'll never see me pain
[06:12:53] Something you can't turn to
[06:12:57] And leave the edge of your mind
[06:13:01] Disconnecting sunshine
[06:13:04] It's easy to touch, fine
[06:13:08] Just got your word
[06:13:10] There's nothing you can't show
[06:13:14] It's a darling lie
[06:13:17] It's a darling lie
[06:13:21] It's a time in my life.
[06:13:24] It's a time in my life.
[06:13:45] Aurora dominated in the group stage,
[06:13:48] But here in the playoffs, their opening game has not been what they've been looking for recently.
[06:13:54] However, every new server calling Tundra, I've been getting better and better every time we see them.
[06:14:00] And this game was no exception.
[06:14:02] They looked absolutely in-game against Kasiari to attempt to teach his less cultured teammates how to have a proper cup of tea.
[06:14:10] The hometown hero coming into the one Birmingham and definitely looking to start off in front of the main stage on the upper bracket.
[06:14:18] Let's see how it goes with game number two here. I'm joined by T governor and winter winter.
[06:14:24] You're already seeing that pango band. I don't think anything anybody surprised by that.
[06:14:29] Can they let the alchemist through?
[06:14:32] Why not? I think it might not be on the same level as the pango. I just want to see some daughter.
[06:14:38] You know so that
[06:14:43] They just thought it does just it just does a lot right of course
[06:14:46] I'll be some teams that will try and emulate the penguin it probably won't work the same way, but
[06:14:50] No, they they really showcase the
[06:14:53] Some of its strengths
[06:14:55] Of course now we are seeing what got left through the poor aka tundra just banned Shelley and so
[06:15:01] I was like to me my my checklist for the early bands nowadays. It's like doom shadow demon
[06:15:06] that and I think the rest can be flavor bands based on who you're playing against
[06:15:12] but let's see some venom and sir
[06:15:17] that may be the first pick or would you want to see formation sir
[06:15:21] everyone just feels like oh no not the main one
[06:15:25] it's just like then if it's the category of hero when you're like sure you
[06:15:31] know it's like watching DK like it's like sure watching Venom sure it's
[06:15:35] like, they're not wow, fun exciting heroes. They just kind of do their job very well.
[06:15:43] It's annoying, you know. Sorry. Nice. I see. I see. You're one of those types of players.
[06:15:51] I'm finally out to the first phase. Oh, look it in. Wow. We okay. So already when
[06:15:57] I see out first phase and the players are already thinking about acts in this style,
[06:16:03] that there was a window of Dota right couple years back but offline out you know 33 would also would be playing it like them
[06:16:10] Where he would farm the wave by eggs and the drafts became like what heroes best use eggs
[06:16:15] So it was less about talking about premise more about like
[06:16:19] When you look at 15 minutes and then I was getting into someone like who will use it best
[06:16:23] We've already mentioned pango we saw queer painting in another game like now more okay
[06:16:27] What what are the acts are there any heroes that you guys have to mind?
[06:16:30] But I'm already excited like okay. What's the cop? What's the next combination available?
[06:16:35] Ember yeah one of it
[06:16:39] True I guess the best all the shivers. Yeah get the free act
[06:16:44] What's great won't it'll be okay? It might not be as punchy as the other heroes, but it still was it's up there
[06:16:50] I feel like against this out right you need to pressure him in the lane
[06:16:54] You gotta pick up him but something that can actually really dominate and make sure that you come from
[06:16:59] He can't farm, you know, you pick another, you pick a strong lane and then you tell your post five to gig gang this alchemist
[06:17:06] But you need to place a ward behind the tower. I think it's extremely important that you you go early
[06:17:12] You place a ward behind you look at his stacks and the moment he goes and do the small stack the medium cam stacks
[06:17:17] You have to kill him during that point. Yeah
[06:17:19] No, that makes sense. It's also like
[06:17:22] Like Phoenix because you are now playing on like dying
[06:17:25] You're actually more aggressive as a hero like when it was actually when you had a hot
[06:17:30] You're thinking maybe I'll play more on the side later down the line
[06:17:33] You're like a little bit lower damage, but now it's like you you are always going to be damaged
[06:17:36] So yeah, I think the full position is really important for a war like you already know the five is the Phoenix the four needs to
[06:17:42] Be that here that you're describing like the one that will set up the pressure and invite the Phoenix
[06:17:46] Well, that is actually yeah smart that is
[06:17:49] They thought they were getting smart because they took the timber away.
[06:17:52] They can't back any more heroes so they pick it away and they must kind of decent against Phoenix.
[06:17:58] Now you just have two heroes on the map that I'm just going to have to knock.
[06:18:01] Is there a counter to these two heroes? Is there something you can pick against timber right now?
[06:18:06] Oh my god.
[06:18:08] I would have thought your vessel buying mids are going to feel okay here, right?
[06:18:13] There's the problem with vessel.
[06:18:15] It's like, Vessel's gonna be good for both Inva and Out-Item lines to get it this time.
[06:18:19] We've been like the first two items that they buy, right?
[06:18:21] Maybe three.
[06:18:22] So we've been like around the 20 minima,
[06:18:24] because Vessel hasn't like broke the entire game.
[06:18:27] The hero that's been picked to buy this item will now feel somewhat redundant.
[06:18:33] Yeah, they're just gonna focus on their own game.
[06:18:35] They're gonna grab them ours, make sure they've got their team fight locked in
[06:18:38] and just sort of out-flight time to hear is what I'm reading from this pick.
[06:18:42] It's a strong lane, like a lane that you can kill the elk.
[06:18:48] So the things that we said you can get over, so Mars is a strong lane with an arranged
[06:18:52] position for a good lane.
[06:18:54] So you're definitely having that type of setup that we were saying, like they're
[06:18:56] going to put pressure on the lane, they're going to rotate, and they're going to try
[06:18:59] to kill the elk in this early phase, minute 3, minute 4, try to kill him once,
[06:19:06] twice.
[06:19:07] I mean the break is kind of nice, means the team are not exactly going to counter
[06:19:12] him but it's just nice to know it's more like I see their heroes is like they can play the lane
[06:19:18] and make the moves that you're asking for but I'm also worried that if they don't make the moves if
[06:19:22] they don't get the kills tundra's ability to like become really hard to kill is very easy right
[06:19:27] like out on timber they can brush off an arena they can destroy an egg right timber can just
[06:19:33] timber chain and hit a couple times maybe out can obviously blink with his chemical
[06:19:36] Is this the game to buy? What's the item? Hydra's breath?
[06:19:40] Let's go Hydra breath rush.
[06:19:45] Oh my god.
[06:19:47] Alright, if we can get to like the 55 minute mark in the game, and you buy the 5800 dollars.
[06:19:53] Oh god.
[06:19:55] This guy is not disgusting.
[06:19:57] Shamak then on the timber.
[06:20:00] Yeah.
[06:20:01] Oh.
[06:20:03] But it's gonna play the same way no it's like the support so like Venomite in be given a bit of lane to get out of the speed
[06:20:09] They just gonna sit back at the farm and just out to kill you
[06:20:17] This is so hard to so hard to play against and it's not easy for you to attack into the area because your heroes are just so annoying with the Venom
[06:20:24] The Venom boards and you have the elk and Timber pushing out waves and they are very very tanky very hard to kill
[06:20:30] You definitely need like a vessel hero to deal with this
[06:20:33] Yeah, but it's like the buy vessel like they have to buy it, but they have to use it perfectly otherwise
[06:20:38] Like I said, it's gonna fall off right and they don't have it as a veer and okay
[06:20:43] Is Timber gonna be given the accent like Timber goes to the early acts from the alchemist
[06:20:48] He then has like directed mama the big shield Mars will probably have to buy you
[06:20:52] If he doesn't then good luck doing any damage at all, right? I'm still worried
[06:20:58] What happens when you hit like 17 minutes with tundra's lineup? It is this is a mass
[06:21:05] When they need a active carry I can just fight earlier
[06:21:07] The master like I feel like maybe it's like a gyro type hero game. You're gonna go through the gates
[06:21:13] You got a pressure you're gonna attack with some spell damage. You have something to throw into the arena
[06:21:18] Maybe you could look you know, maybe
[06:21:20] Maybe man, I can feel my tongue was up.
[06:21:23] Hear me out, hear me out.
[06:21:24] Is this the game?
[06:21:25] Will anybody buy Crela's Crozier?
[06:21:30] OK, 75% health reduction.
[06:21:34] Health restoration reduction.
[06:21:36] Just saying, just saying.
[06:21:38] Why not do this pick Necro?
[06:21:39] Five seconds.
[06:21:41] I can buy Necro instead of what you want to buy Necro.
[06:21:44] Yeah, pick Necro at home.
[06:21:46] Yeah, I mean
[06:21:57] Only buy it with the shivers because then you can get like all of it together, you know
[06:22:01] He's gonna buy the crossie and by all cheevers. Yeah by all cheevers like double the price
[06:22:07] No, like Aurora, they need the the night full carry as much as there's the active carry route
[06:22:13] You could make an argument that Aurora might do a lot of wave skipping with the storm the hoodwink even the Mars with the shard
[06:22:19] Like if they just keep the game alive that full can eventually outscale this timing
[06:22:23] Hence why like the time is running out Medusa. It's eventual gotcha card, but
[06:22:28] Yeah Aurora's damage is is lackluster. So if they do go for the scaling route then they're gonna have to play a really beautiful
[06:22:35] Macro game to survive tundra. Well, what's available for the scaling route that my phone plays?
[06:22:41] I don't feel like I see anything right now there isn't and then it's you know
[06:22:47] it's a pattern no it would never to the hero or did that get removed I can't
[06:22:53] remember if it was feel like he doesn't have the entire little faster so he
[06:22:56] doesn't have the ah of course yeah did I get it didn't get integrated into a
[06:23:01] talent or anything great I mean I think he got something in the talent
[06:23:04] Maybe that's the kill shot.
[06:23:07] Right, yeah, okay. I'm getting something.
[06:23:10] Yeah, he did get slaughtered in the carry roll and I kind of blindly assume they might have been added.
[06:23:15] No, I just double-checked. It's not.
[06:23:18] Yeah, in that case, I am at a partial loss for what is the...
[06:23:22] What is the rifle here that can play in the timber?
[06:23:25] Nice stealer.
[06:23:26] Very nice stealer. There's a storm.
[06:23:28] He can fight early and maybe steal against his lineup.
[06:23:32] I don't like to use alchemist it's nice but what happens and if like timber just goes mid and then you just find an offline and that can just
[06:23:41] Delete elapsed it from the lane
[06:23:44] And that also a possibility with time just line up
[06:23:48] Yeah, at least the timbers made and I think timber doesn't want to go mid. Yeah true
[06:23:54] Yeah, then I have to sacrifice something to do that. That's why I'm only here there
[06:23:59] They actually go to gyro. Yeah
[06:24:02] You need to fight this
[06:24:04] So you're gonna see all this like gate was you know, like I think three minutes and I was gonna put gate was to see
[06:24:09] All these rotations coming in the Phoenix and the child
[06:24:12] I also want to see like night pool also follow
[06:24:17] Even if the vision out from tundra, of course assuming
[06:24:21] Jared going for this win a you get one spear
[06:24:23] I'll go through there as well
[06:24:25] If there's a couple stacks made like maybe broken heads very flat kind of them down
[06:24:29] like I can always see a very like mckay style of gyrocopter through nightfall. Like that type of tempo I want to keep on it.
[06:24:36] Yeah. I'm picking up what you're putting down. Gotta be quick, gotta be strong, but the team fight from Aurora really really good here.
[06:24:44] Like that is something which Tundra just don't have in their draft at the moment.
[06:24:48] Sure, like if the lanes go well that won't really matter if they can take over the map like they want to, then that won't really matter.
[06:24:54] but if they're on even footing you get to that point in the game where it's at least five and five smokes
[06:25:00] Then Aurora are gonna feel really really good about that
[06:25:05] They have to find a pick that can pressure the storm in the lane
[06:25:08] I think that would be the most ideal because Aurora has a very very fast draft
[06:25:13] You know with the March to storm the Jiro they can definitely run you over
[06:25:17] So they need something they can slow the storm down fight for the runes and make sure that they don't get run
[06:25:22] of us with the Elk, the Timber, the Venom, the Shaman, the Elkenfarm.
[06:25:30] Okay, I'm just trying to, so like mid lane is like Pots gone, Ember gone, Queen gone, Void gone,
[06:25:35] Pango gone, like a lot of the kind of classic mids are actually just not here at all. There's
[06:25:40] still the Beastmaster that we've been seeing a little bit that's still available. If you,
[06:25:45] it doesn't shut down the storm, but it just plays like its own game, right? Like you
[06:25:48] you shove the wave, you'll get your axe, you'll get a BKB, but...
[06:25:51] Ooh, the Lestral!
[06:25:55] I was really excited to see the return of Lestral.
[06:25:57] Like, that's known.
[06:25:59] And certain items you're going to add to the game make Lestral...
[06:26:03] happy, like, get him off in our building here.
[06:26:06] So you see, they're going to be getting the first axe.
[06:26:10] Is it still me?
[06:26:11] Probably no one seems to be available to add to the game.
[06:26:13] Yeah, no, it isn't. Okay.
[06:26:16] Yeah, probably not, yeah.
[06:26:18] I would imagine it goes to 33 at the very least or maybe Pewds doesn't give it a 1-axis game
[06:26:23] It doesn't need to doesn't have. Yeah, but the thing with the Lash here
[06:26:26] So there's a lot of potential with the pick here
[06:26:28] I can heavily pressure the storm in the lane and you can use him to defend your Terras right because this game
[06:26:34] I feel like Tundra is gonna be doing a lot of defending you have to respond to the aggression from the storm and the Jiro
[06:26:39] Especially and Lash kind of he's one of the best heroes to do it and someone's overextending
[06:26:44] diving at side lanes, you TP down and you're going to punish them.
[06:26:47] So I kind of like this pick a lot and it's really good in the lane against the storm too.
[06:26:52] Yeah, I just want to see the plan, right? Imagine what if Alk gives the axe to
[06:26:58] Whitemon, okay? Then you give to the Venomots. 20% magic reduction.
[06:27:03] BZM then goes, thank you so much, good sir. I will use your toxicity to then kill so pure
[06:27:09] and it was Whitemon to enable BZM. And then BZM then enabled study three to enable
[06:27:12] Harry, you know, that dominoes are to fall out, climb up to about combinations. All right.
[06:27:18] It's not always about the courts. I'm loving this plan to you, Governor. It sounds perfect.
[06:27:23] And if they actually deliver on that, then I'll be absolutely shocked. And I will call
[06:27:27] you a genius and shake your hand. But I'll make sure I tell my teammates in pubs when
[06:27:32] I play there not to pick out to any of me. I'm playing World 4, 5, Harry, you're
[06:27:38] You're going Alchemist and you're going to give me an Agatha.
[06:27:41] Well, I'm sure all the current players will take that really well.
[06:27:44] Minutes 6.
[06:27:45] White Moon's going to have the lane.
[06:27:46] Pure's going to be in the jungle.
[06:27:48] White Moon's going to like, chat up and tell his team what to do.
[06:27:51] Mimo or Roro's there scrambling for the items.
[06:27:55] Hoping Storm has a game.
[06:27:57] Well, it's the boss man, White Moon.
[06:27:58] He knows exactly what he needs in this game.
[06:28:00] See?
[06:28:01] To be fair, they've dropped aside at Roro.
[06:28:02] They have a very clean lineup.
[06:28:03] Like, as long as they overcome this inevitable window
[06:28:06] that we're talking about from Thundra.
[06:28:08] They do have the draft to kind of deal with Thundra.
[06:28:11] So again, good adaptations from them.
[06:28:13] Of course, respect for Thundra
[06:28:15] and the spookiness that they've drafted for them.
[06:28:19] Two different styles here coming out from these two teams.
[06:28:22] Which one will be better?
[06:28:23] That is what we're gonna find out
[06:28:25] in game number two of Aurora versus Thundra Esports
[06:28:28] with Lyrical and Dreadless.
[06:28:32] That is right indeed.
[06:28:34] And we're getting ready to go into this one
[06:28:36] as we zoom across the map,
[06:28:38] and we're hopefully gonna see something
[06:28:40] a little bit more even-heeled than last time,
[06:28:44] because Tundra beat that crap out of an Holy Moly trap.
[06:28:47] That's right, the wind in our hair
[06:28:49] as we fly across the skies.
[06:28:52] Our hair?
[06:28:52] Who is draft?
[06:28:55] Our hair?
[06:28:56] What?
[06:28:57] Yeah.
[06:28:58] Yeah, that's right, the wind in our hair
[06:29:01] as they're getting out to the places.
[06:29:03] You know, we were talking during the draft
[06:29:05] trying to figure out what pick we wanted to take. Oh man, I was so stoked.
[06:29:09] I wanted to see the bloodseeker for nightfall. Um,
[06:29:13] you were, you kind of like to look at this hero now.
[06:29:15] You think it's the chance I might see it at some point?
[06:29:17] He's crushing one rate wise. So, and it's more than just like,
[06:29:20] bloodseeker is one of those weird heroes that attracts the spammers.
[06:29:23] When my people who aren't the spammers start playing him,
[06:29:25] that's when you know that he's got to have something going for him.
[06:29:28] So he's definitely in the, uh, you know,
[06:29:31] play around and find out a situation right now. And I,
[06:29:34] I mean, yeah, right. I look like an insane buff to your game, but they play it super safe and discover the gyrocopter instead
[06:29:40] He is not super safe
[06:29:43] Saving the last hit for pure who gets to play out two games in a row
[06:29:47] What more could you want as white mom will take a bushwhack to the back and mirror gonna chase him down a bit here
[06:29:52] But yeah, that is a little bit of a tough one also worth noting Venom taking gale first
[06:29:57] So won't have snake bite for the trading and lane
[06:30:00] Mary, are you utilizing that new buff to bush back?
[06:30:04] 100 extra range feels good.
[06:30:06] So let's talk about the heroes that actually have shown up now for these squads.
[06:30:12] And the answer that it feels like Aurora is running for is that,
[06:30:17] okay, one pango isn't going to mess this up as much as we saw in game number one,
[06:30:21] but two, there's also going to be now this storm spirit that can be maybe a more effective hunter than we saw from the void.
[06:30:29] void. What do you think? I think it's, and you know, you're saying the pango like banning it
[06:30:35] instead of the elk too, right? It's basically now this is tundra trying to prove like
[06:30:40] it's the elk problem. Like they've got this other hero in the timber saw, right? Like we're
[06:30:44] just going to pivot it over there. Like we're probably going to get him the Agnes. Or a hell,
[06:30:48] maybe it will be Niles, but I don't know. But here we are. Oh, it's an eye. One of the
[06:30:54] the downside to Venom, at the very least. But you know what, it still feels pretty good,
[06:30:59] I'm sure.
[06:31:00] Yeah, you do also still get that experience, which is nice, going over to Whitemon there.
[06:31:07] But we'll see how this lane shakes out here. And of course, the other thing that we might
[06:31:14] see at some point is maybe Mira heads out and tries to go and block those camps back
[06:31:19] there back behind the tower. It could be a valuable option for them.
[06:31:22] Maybe they have the Hunters.
[06:31:24] That is the plan this time, is try and slow down the Alchemor.
[06:31:27] After watching that last game, are he looking pretty dead here even after the survival there?
[06:31:34] So they get themselves a good chill.
[06:31:35] It reminds me of the last time where we had Mega Broken Alchemist, which was many, many
[06:31:40] years ago at this point.
[06:31:41] But it felt like you were always just stuck in this Catch-22 problem, where if you
[06:31:47] were to hunt the Alchemist and spend all this time trying to find him, you end
[06:31:50] of being a little bit under farmed as other cores of an easier time and then he just seems
[06:31:54] to like catch back up anyway. Like it feels like it's no matter what you do, he's gonna
[06:31:58] have a good game and you have to decide are you also gonna farm or you're gonna try him
[06:32:02] slow him down at the cost of slowing down your own heroes. And that is always like
[06:32:07] busted Alchimeta.
[06:32:09] Right. Well, and that's where maybe something like a storm spirit can start to come into
[06:32:13] play and look good because you hunting and killing turns into galvanized stacks
[06:32:18] and then that makes Makoto stronger throughout the course of the game. I feel like he is going
[06:32:22] to be very key to this. Makoto playing together with Mira and trying to find heroes in the
[06:32:28] jungle. And I think, you know, when you get to maybe that 15 minute mark, the two of them
[06:32:32] together can probably blow up most heroes, maybe not the timber. Timber is going to
[06:32:37] be a little bit tougher, I think.
[06:32:38] Yeah. Decent nerf as well to the storm, knocking the three free points when you
[06:32:42] level up on the lightning ball.
[06:32:43] Yeah.
[06:32:44] I was a little surprised by that, but that's because they let him keep the walking
[06:32:48] remnants and also still has like five armor to stop the game, which is insane. They just
[06:32:52] have to walk into prepwave and press it and he still gets five armor. That's crazy, but
[06:32:56] I'll ask here we are. So that was his big nerf that they decided and thus making those
[06:33:00] kills even more important for you.
[06:33:02] Yeah, definitely. So little pause here as we get things sorted for each of the teams.
[06:33:11] Other things that we can sort of talk about is, you know, this Leshrac last pick overall
[06:33:15] another one of those that has been kind of shooting up the ranks in terms of pub win
[06:33:19] rates and feeling quite strong.
[06:33:22] The change of course is you don't have the increased crazy damage from Diabolik Edik,
[06:33:28] but it's better over a shorter period of time.
[06:33:31] But now it can also hit towers.
[06:33:32] So overall a pretty big buff for the Lesh.
[06:33:35] Yeah, he's looking very strong at the moment and currently holding a point there in
[06:33:40] case he gets an opportunity to maybe go for an Edik kill or if he needs to split
[06:33:44] Earth for some reason. So, just the Lesser Axe doing this. No more Chronoptic though,
[06:33:50] for their free mana at the very least. You'd be happy about that. That was getting a little
[06:33:53] absurd too. That guy just had too many good facets over. It's the fastest time.
[06:34:01] Some pressure there on the pure as the 8th and the 8th Corn Shots. Let's be real.
[06:34:06] Putwink has got to be the best forager, if not like the items broken.
[06:34:10] I mean, the lore is there.
[06:34:12] Yeah.
[06:34:13] Gale is trying to devort here, but taking a lot of damage for it.
[06:34:21] That's a lot of pressure.
[06:34:23] But something to watch for as this game goes on is going to be how well do these lanes
[06:34:29] go so far.
[06:34:31] Tundra seem to be getting everything that they want out of them.
[06:34:34] Alk is kicking it.
[06:34:36] Lesh is winning mid.
[06:34:40] see if BZM is able to put further pressure on Makoto in this game or if it's just going
[06:34:45] to be sort of a steady flight win coming in.
[06:34:49] Was that enough to save Mira?
[06:34:50] Alright, no.
[06:34:51] I mean, maybe you can get Deny.
[06:34:53] Nice.
[06:34:54] Neutrals doing the work.
[06:34:56] WS helping release him there by not like pure to aim the chase as well.
[06:35:02] Does get Denyed right in his face though, very nice.
[06:35:05] My big question right this game is gonna be mr. Nightfall on the gyrocopter. Are we gonna see the twin gate rotation?
[06:35:12] Are we gonna see some ulti plays early?
[06:35:14] Can he get involved a bit more than on that Luna because last game I mean they basically had a mid and a safe lane that
[06:35:20] essentially
[06:35:21] Didn't impact the enemy team for the verse 15 minutes. Whoa. What a weird angle on that latch
[06:35:28] And now Mira goes in with the acorn shot the hit. It's enough pure dropping somewhat low
[06:35:34] as they end up with a lift wave there underneath the tower down bottom where night falls keeping that pressure on 33
[06:35:41] Back and forth we go here to the sides
[06:35:44] We'll go for a link up, but are you gonna get ran down?
[06:35:48] And immediately brought down after the fact so three to one. Yeah, we're gonna actually have me ever up top as well
[06:35:54] Bushback almost connecting for the kill on the pure but he was kind of baiting it
[06:35:57] He just cuts the tree sitting next to us very cute play
[06:36:04] Far so good.
[06:36:07] BZM here.
[06:36:09] Does look like he is going to be the first to six,
[06:36:13] and that means Storm has to be pretty careful.
[06:36:15] He's going to walk all the way back, it looks like, to base.
[06:36:17] I mean, he's such an insane amount of damage when he hits six right now.
[06:36:21] 33.
[06:36:23] The chase continues.
[06:36:25] He's got two points in rocket barrage,
[06:36:27] but it is just going to be a wave pulled all the way back.
[06:36:31] I'm landing on the proto.
[06:36:32] And trouble he actually didn't go all the way back to base
[06:36:36] Cherry fire is still there turns to try and hit how much damage can each you not enough now Ori
[06:36:42] Is they bring in mirrors they have enough to kill off the shaman again?
[06:36:46] He's gonna get hit by the fire spirits. He burns foul play though. Haha. I can't get another
[06:36:57] How does he get that Andy has this cool new jar style someone that vows play a lot of shaman
[06:37:02] That's that's what I'm thinking
[06:37:05] It's pretty crazy
[06:37:09] So they couldn't find the kill up top on the WS and I used to be our way
[06:37:14] But trying to shut down the storm for all he's worth and it's gonna be a shield rune picked up by the Lash
[06:37:20] Thinking about going
[06:37:22] And there it is they caught Mira. He's dead
[06:37:25] Shaman and Lash man like you're just so dead. Oh my god. He's still not level six. He's it. He's a shield
[06:37:31] He's ready to go. Yeah, Makoto needs to get out of here. They do take a lot of damage
[06:37:37] Yeah, BZM ready to go. Oh
[06:37:39] That hurt. I know greatness face
[06:37:42] up top pure
[06:37:44] Thurs up the stun almost got him
[06:37:47] BZM here playing real aggressive trying to get his edged on the tower. Maybe a bit too much with the
[06:37:52] shield rune
[06:37:54] Black, but the friends are still here. Yeah, Makoto thinking about going
[06:37:57] He does have six now, the hits are there, blood grenade out, instead it's going to be going for Auri, Lakoto connects and finishes.
[06:38:05] If they want to, BZM, you just don't have enough mana on Lakoto to make that move.
[06:38:09] Now on the dive was just coming back for Kira as well, so hey, they get a kill, get a few stacks there, 3-3.
[06:38:15] It's a good thing with the Shrine of Wisdom.
[06:38:18] And White Mon, again in some trouble here.
[06:38:22] He's going to be brought down too.
[06:38:23] So, defending their area and impressive showing is everybody down very, very low.
[06:38:33] Yeah, that was Makoto.
[06:38:35] Nice and open in the mid lane.
[06:38:36] Actually gets the farm a full wave.
[06:38:37] Feel a bit better about his game.
[06:38:40] And there's how I look at Puri.
[06:38:41] He's at low HP, but he's still hitting creeps.
[06:38:44] That bloodseeker pick.
[06:38:46] Imagine.
[06:38:47] If you go a hog wild, this game, that's for sure.
[06:38:54] Well, we'll have ourselves another pause now.
[06:38:59] And what's your read of the game and the way it's going?
[06:39:03] Like, Pure is still getting very farmed.
[06:39:05] Timber seems a little bit behind from where he would want to be.
[06:39:08] Yeah, I think that's probably the best thing in this game, really,
[06:39:12] is that they have slowed down 3-3.
[06:39:14] Not something that we see all too often, especially on the Timber stall.
[06:39:17] So he's like taking a little bit of time
[06:39:18] He's not gonna be getting that that instant pressure when he hits six
[06:39:21] So my read would be they have to get like nightfall involved and it's looks like that's exactly what they're doing is Ari's
[06:39:27] Can have a spell play to trigger here?
[06:39:30] You dead
[06:39:31] Yeah, they fall get another kill
[06:39:34] and
[06:39:35] He's actually going for that first item crystal is to on the gyro
[06:39:40] So not trying to go for the immediate agonim scepter. So we've sort of
[06:39:44] I think they'll expect just gonna have a little bit more damage there to throw out in case they
[06:39:49] are ganking him.
[06:39:50] He's just getting so much done though.
[06:39:52] Like he's pulling the wave up top from the higher camps so he's like, because you can
[06:39:56] tell that WS is trying to keep the wave back into the tower because he wants to offer
[06:39:59] an opportunity with this level six.
[06:40:01] He's holding the point for Rena Blood, but he can't even get him to a point where
[06:40:04] they could like convincingly get an arena and have enough time to rotate it and
[06:40:08] get a kill.
[06:40:10] You know you just love to show up as Makoto, especially with this Arcane rune.
[06:40:13] Yeah, but is this really it's gonna farm up this arcane room?
[06:40:15] I mean I tried to go for a kill with easy yet onto BZM with Mira, but they couldn't quite get the bushwhack connection
[06:40:22] and so
[06:40:23] That falls apart and yeah in any move where you're like retreating back to your side of the map
[06:40:30] It does not feel good for this lineup of Aurora like letting them farm is not where you want to be
[06:40:36] These tiny camps for the Alka just so stupid like he's getting
[06:40:39] 15 gold from the creep 18 gold from his bonus as he just like chucks the asset back there
[06:40:44] It's just so ridiculous at least he left a polywalk ex family, so
[06:40:49] It's something they got that
[06:40:53] Mira on the hunt, but look this move right here. This has to connect
[06:40:57] And a scan from radiant shows that Ari is in the area, but they're well maybe now
[06:41:04] Pure why we're going in and they didn't know
[06:41:09] right here that was a scan from the radiant and so nightfall they have enough
[06:41:15] damage I mean yeah with kaiori this should be enough unless BGM is there for
[06:41:20] the turn around supernova out and pure still living but it is gonna be BGM dead
[06:41:25] sure somehow survives through this and now it's gonna have us gone
[06:41:30] afterwards kaiori trying to do what damage he can but that's gonna be a dead
[06:41:33] Phoenix, white man living, nightfall showing up, the big die from downtown, but Pyrrha's off to the side.
[06:41:40] Well, for a second he might run back to Farry, but Makoto, he doesn't have the mana he needs to chase down this elk.
[06:41:46] After all this, Pyrrha lives, walks away to go farm some more... Froggies.
[06:41:53] Oh, maybe he'll just safely go home, it looks like. He's a little too worried.
[06:41:56] Nope, Froggies. All right.
[06:41:58] Okay, alright so that makes way more sense then, that it was the Radiant Scan, thus.
[06:42:05] Oof, and Manta Catapult still pushing up top here, could try something, 3-3, I mean that
[06:42:11] could have a fight that you would love to show up to as a Timberstop, but because he was
[06:42:15] still poor and he's doing all this neutral farming he just can't be there.
[06:42:17] You know that really hurting Tundra in that case, that's an easy double triple kill
[06:42:22] for a Timber, a lot of times, and likewise for a Lashrack honestly, those are fights
[06:42:26] that you're supposed to do well in so Aurora happy about that and they don't
[06:42:31] end up pressuring with the catapult they kind of just let it dissipate and I
[06:42:36] just moving through here but Makoto's farming up here with no mana like there's
[06:42:39] no aggressive potential in this move right now yeah this I mean again like if
[06:42:44] you're not kicking pure out of this area he farmed that whole wave I don't
[06:42:49] know I think they're not doing enough to shut him down now he's getting
[06:42:53] more from those two camps than you are from the wave anyway yeah I'll
[06:42:56] Honestly get the sentries out like let's block those camps. Yeah, I
[06:43:01] Mean that's gotta be a consideration versus here, right? I mean maybe they already did and I just missed it
[06:43:04] But I think that if you guys are playing against Alc like do whatever you can to make sure he can't use those
[06:43:10] He's annoying as possible. Well because right now they're also farming five different heroes at the same time
[06:43:16] Now white mon is taken over this area pure farms back to his like super state zone
[06:43:20] And then you've got like triangle ticket by BZM
[06:43:23] They're just getting more out of the map.
[06:43:29] Again, it's just going to be a game of timings then for Aurora, where there's a lot of pressure in these moments, but actually an opportunity to be aggressive as they jump onto White Mon, take a 3D.
[06:43:39] And we saw this happening to Boom when we had the core vinyl, right? He was trying to farm these spots and he just kept on dying.
[06:43:46] And getting that kill without the arena is like the biggest thing, I think.
[06:43:49] I think. Maybe you can make some type of a play with Makoto once you gather everybody
[06:43:56] together and take a fight together, but we'll see.
[06:44:01] TP coming in. Makoto on here and nearby. Jerry's trying to deal with this alchemist.
[06:44:09] He's trying to get a very deep ward down here. Just needs to get up before he's
[06:44:13] spawned. Yeah, he's blocking the camp. So he knows. And now they're going to walk through.
[06:44:22] Very good. Yeah, this should be a kill on the pure now. If they don't get this one, it's
[06:44:28] really bad. Yeah, he's dead. Surely he's dead, right guys? Uh-oh. He's going to know.
[06:44:34] Oh no. Oh no. The zip tries to pull him in. He gets the ulti off. WS is there.
[06:44:38] to the arena down and that should be enough now to find a kill on the pure but can BZM
[06:44:44] clean up this guy has an amp damage and as they try and escape WS is going to be found
[06:44:50] will at least be one left behind to keep you out by the Phoenix and yes that's what they
[06:44:57] needed on Aurora and unfortunately you have to stack a core for it but you'll take it at
[06:45:04] at the very least, and carry even wisely, keeping to the mid lane.
[06:45:08] He's able to clean up a little bit for himself here.
[06:45:10] He has some pretty good levels on the Phoenix now, level 8.
[06:45:18] It's another essence distiller on the build here for Whitemon,
[06:45:22] so he was happy with it last game.
[06:45:25] And the Consecrate Raps being built for BZM.
[06:45:27] Seems like a really good item for Leshrac.
[06:45:29] Yeah, a lot of magic damage as well here from Aurora this game too.
[06:45:36] Well, they're gonna try and find Makoto, but he tepees out just as Ari's smoke breaks
[06:45:42] on him.
[06:45:44] So they manage to dodge away.
[06:45:46] 33 has really just been struggling to find anything in this game right now, but like
[06:45:52] you talk about working towards Consecrated Wraps, has the Kaia done, WS almost
[06:45:57] instead of Blink Dagger. Yeah, if that Ward stays up there too, maybe they get another
[06:46:07] free kill on either BZM or Pure with that Blink Dagger when it's done. Support's also
[06:46:13] stacking up here. Gonna get another Ancient Stack here as long as they hit the timing.
[06:46:18] So yeah, Aurora in a good spot, a little bit of gold lead versus an Alchemist.
[06:46:22] Feels good.
[06:46:23] Here, we'll cut into that in just a moment if he forms up all of this though.
[06:46:30] Look at these stacked camps.
[06:46:31] That's close.
[06:46:32] 20 to 14.
[06:46:33] Like, 14 is actually a decent amount.
[06:46:35] That's not even a bad amount.
[06:46:37] It's just the fact that Alch is just jungling and obviously stacks are insane on this
[06:46:40] hero.
[06:46:41] Yeah.
[06:46:42] No matter what camp it is.
[06:46:43] In the meantime, WS clears through this stack of ancients, does how does Blink Dagger done,
[06:46:52] and going to be queuing up the BKB next, Ari trying to get some deep wards down.
[06:46:58] Maybe they're going to be waiting for like a Gyrocopter Aghanem to try and make some
[06:47:02] other push as Ari gets that pretty deep ward in.
[06:47:05] But this little trifecta could also make moves together still between Makoto, WS and
[06:47:10] Kaori.
[06:47:11] join as well as I fall. I think 100% you join. I don't think you're going to miss one on that much,
[06:47:16] and it's just so important that you take more of an advantage in a game like this.
[06:47:20] Right. Even if you're this close to agonist.
[06:47:27] WS. They spot him here on RE, and no way out of that one. Will they get the ward afterwards,
[06:47:36] though. The true test ever. I mean, they were just like, ah, he was just killing
[06:47:42] ancients with his snakes, you know? Yeah. Like, did he kill that whole stack? They
[06:47:47] killed it first. They got the big stack of it.
[06:47:55] So 12 to 6, and this gold lead as Radiance has completed for Alch is
[06:48:01] starting to get whittled down bit by bit by bit as pure gets a blink dagger.
[06:48:06] Alright, so pure with a blink, Agnum's done on the gyro, everyone's trying to hit their
[06:48:13] items here.
[06:48:14] I can't a raw, I really hope that they find the ability to move forward because this looks
[06:48:20] like last game where they start farming comfortably.
[06:48:23] And I'm wondering if this game we're going to see Pure decide to go in for an Aghanim
[06:48:33] Scepter again and pass that off to the Timber, because that would immediately pull Timber
[06:48:37] back into contention.
[06:48:38] And obviously Pure would not have it on, but they see him though on this ward.
[06:48:42] This ward getting a lot of value here.
[06:48:44] Oh, unfortunately, the squad and it looks like it's both teams.
[06:48:49] Yeah, I don't I kind of like the fact that you don't have to go the eggs though on on the elk
[06:48:55] Yeah, like he's showing that even without gifting this to when your allies like I think that there's not enough broken agonies in this one
[06:49:02] I mean they don't have a dispel right for the timber one
[06:49:04] But it's also a fight that is gonna be really chaotic and high mobility like Phoenix hoodwink storm spirit
[06:49:10] Even getting speared by Amaris that there's not like this clumpy value that you're gonna get to the the agonist scepter
[06:49:16] right
[06:49:17] So I guess Phoenix did just finish a yule. So yeah, I guess that's a big one.
[06:49:27] Yeah, it's a good covers there from Kerry. I mean,
[06:49:29] someone who likes to rush in towards a site when he can, recognizing that if the eggs comes out,
[06:49:34] because it is an alchemist, it could be very detrimental to them.
[06:49:37] Right. So this fight looks a little weird as everybody gets back into the game. Nightfall
[06:49:43] has joined up with Makoto up top. But right now, WS is spotted on a ward. So Pure might
[06:49:52] be able to intuit that there's people heading his direction.
[06:49:55] And then also, Ari just finished his blink dagger too. So this is a Storm Spirit that
[06:49:58] has two kills, like four total galvanized stacks, but now Shao Shao Shaman has blink.
[06:50:04] They're queuing up and getting ready to go onto WS. They saw him getting ready with
[06:50:08] the stun, I think. And now, in steady or fighting over here, this could be great
[06:50:12] for them as they jump by BZM, find Auri, he is dead, and now can they also connect onto
[06:50:18] the out? Pure is running away, and I think that they realize what's going on as the ping
[06:50:23] comes out. Another pause.
[06:50:27] Unfortunate there.
[06:50:32] Yep. So the ULZ as well, the Consecrated Raps, I assume instantly just dispels it.
[06:50:40] Yeah, dispellable. Yeah, that was really cool. Because I saw like, immediately he just starts dying, and like, ah, very wise.
[06:50:46] So this yule has an extra value. Very cool.
[06:50:53] Taking a look here at some of the players, they're trying to sort out what's going on. Everybody's reconnecting.
[06:50:59] Wait, how does yule's work though?
[06:51:01] Because...
[06:51:02] Oh, yeah, but you just spell the exact...
[06:51:04] I don't know if you...
[06:51:06] I was trying to think, you have to take damage to activate the stacks to activate the barrier.
[06:51:13] I wasn't sure how that was going to go.
[06:51:15] Yeah, I guess it's like a mini Aeon, right?
[06:51:18] If you like raw, you'll use them.
[06:51:20] I'll keep an eye on it.
[06:51:23] Okay.
[06:51:24] Well, so far so good.
[06:51:26] I like what I'm seeing from Aurora, they're getting everything done the way that they
[06:51:29] need to.
[06:51:30] It feels like, yeah, maybe Pango is the problem.
[06:51:34] I mean the fact that he's not going for the agonist is also nice because not only do they
[06:51:39] not get this big bonus, but he doesn't get this investment in himself that is compounding.
[06:51:43] Dude guys compounding interest actually crazy.
[06:51:47] You should be doing it.
[06:51:49] Good.
[06:51:50] Okay.
[06:51:51] Simply have money to make more money, guys, but I learned economics.
[06:51:56] Pure.
[06:51:57] Pure.
[06:51:58] Jumped upon, hoodwink got him and dead.
[06:52:01] Now they try and turn this, but it's not looking so good for old Ari old Ari is caught as well.
[06:52:07] BGM runs in, but they've got the supernova down. They will have enough to kill off WS and Mira.
[06:52:12] But after the fact, can they get out with the rest of them?
[06:52:15] They already dives away still under vision. Do your little sunray off in TP away.
[06:52:20] It's always so lovely to see. Isn't it?
[06:52:22] Oh, I was close.
[06:52:28] Man, it's ignoring the egg.
[06:52:29] Oh, kind of depressing, honestly.
[06:52:33] Oh, no.
[06:52:35] You're just sitting there watching your allies die.
[06:52:38] You use your ultimate and then narrowly escape there.
[06:52:41] Yeah. Oh, my goodness.
[06:52:43] Koto, what happened?
[06:52:45] Don't look.
[06:52:46] He's on mine. Don't worry.
[06:52:48] Oh, my goodness.
[06:52:50] Mirror is not the wearing clothes. That's good. Very important.
[06:52:58] But 16 to 8 and players PCs exploding from the craziness of this game trend. That's right.
[06:53:08] And this game is so exciting. We literally cannot handle it.
[06:53:13] This is always like the case after a patch, right? There's something weird that goes on.
[06:53:17] one. It causes some issues. I think it's just slacks chewing the wires again. I think they
[06:53:23] forgot to put on the, uh, like the chili spray. I mean, he is on keto. So the way of it,
[06:53:29] not many carbs in a wire. Yeah, you don't think so? Yeah, that's good. That's very
[06:53:35] irony. We know they coat the wires in your car with soy and that's why the rats chew
[06:53:40] them up. Oh really? Yeah. So like, you know, if you get like a rat infestation in a
[06:53:45] city or in a apartment building but chew up all the wires underneath.
[06:53:48] Oh, you got a spray with, uh, no, I don't thankfully, but it is an issue in a
[06:53:52] harbor city such as Halifax.
[06:53:53] So you got to get this peppermint spray and spray it all under your vehicle
[06:53:57] because they don't like peppermint.
[06:53:58] I feel like I would make me want to chew it more if it was peppermint
[06:54:01] flavored, you know, apparently rats, they don't feel that way.
[06:54:03] I mean, think about it.
[06:54:04] You think of a rat kind of stinky, right?
[06:54:06] You know, you don't think you're like fresh breath.
[06:54:08] I don't think they're into the mint.
[06:54:11] Maybe they should try it sometime.
[06:54:12] Speaking of which, bees, bees, I don't know how I thought it.
[06:54:14] Speaking of which, but it's just an idea that he was over there.
[06:54:19] You're a spot, Ari and Pure.
[06:54:21] They think about going high ground and well,
[06:54:23] how quick can they be able to get there in time?
[06:54:26] Now they do, Pure throws up the spawn.
[06:54:28] Is there going to be any extra help?
[06:54:30] All the ULs are already trying to save a buddy.
[06:54:33] Pure away, not dropping arenas.
[06:54:35] He did not have it up yet.
[06:54:37] And now WS is in too far.
[06:54:38] Save your buddy syndrome.
[06:54:40] It afflicts us all.
[06:54:42] Oh, Pure goes in.
[06:54:43] Okay, Ori gets away. Oh my goodness. Wait does he? No, he really doesn't. He really doesn't. Oh jeez
[06:54:53] We're just talking about how good it was looking for and then that happens
[06:54:56] I mean it's pause Dota and nothing counts before a pause, you know
[06:54:59] Yeah pause happens you lose track of where everyone's on the map things get weird
[06:55:04] We're at that point of the game where team fights start deciding everything because we're all powerful enough to take our
[06:55:09] objectives so quickly that a team fight like this puts snakes on the tier 2 and
[06:55:13] they just immediately run back for the tormentor big all of this hard work and
[06:55:20] patience and like good gameplay just goes up the window versus alchemist like
[06:55:24] with one mistake and this is why this hero is they still and maybe almost
[06:55:29] always gonna be good he's just like somewhat viable the amount of punish
[06:55:32] that he has when you make mistake is so frustrating now they are trying to
[06:55:35] of this they've been up here doing Roche yeah it's really good I mean they knew
[06:55:40] what they were gonna be doing going back for tormentor and they were not I
[06:55:44] mean imagine if that was old tormentor maybe they have a little bit more HP they
[06:55:47] can come and contest this but Makoto gets an agent so tormentor for ages I
[06:55:52] would rather be on the ages side of this yes especially with a storm spirit
[06:55:56] who is desperately trying to get more galvanized tax yeah all right so
[06:56:01] Game plan aurora smoke up get wards plant them deep
[06:56:06] Find out before he's a PKB. That's unfortunately not gonna happen. He is 10 goals away
[06:56:10] So that part's gonna be a little bit more difficult to deal with
[06:56:14] So instead we're just gonna wait until our gyrocopter has like six items. That's a new plan
[06:56:18] You know the thing about this game though is that whereas last time they turned like a
[06:56:24] Pango from like a mid lane hero into just like the strongest hero in the game this time around it is still all about the
[06:56:30] So he can make this play sure and he'll blow up Nira, get the kill, find the dandy, but it is going to be kind of a pure against the world dynamic as he continues to farm up because he's probably not giving an axe to anybody else, right?
[06:56:46] Not looking that way. As much as he would like the extra gold, I think things like AC and stuff are going to be more important for him.
[06:56:53] Yeah.
[06:56:54] This, okay, this Consecrate Raps is just way, why is it only 2600 gold? That seems crazy.
[06:57:00] I don't know, man.
[06:57:01] It's so much HP.
[06:57:03] Nightfall coming in to stop the pressure on the tower, takes down the big Urniconda and
[06:57:13] then coming in for the wards.
[06:57:15] So the, the Hallowed, as you can see on the like the heroes with the Raps is undispellable.
[06:57:21] Okay.
[06:57:22] So, if I'm not crazy, I think if you get Eul's when you land, you'll have the barrier, won't
[06:57:28] you?
[06:57:29] Because the Dispel will happen first, then you take the 50 damage on landing, and that
[06:57:32] would activate the barrier.
[06:57:33] I haven't read the item, so I'm going to defer to you on that.
[06:57:38] Well, I don't know.
[06:57:39] I can't level it right now.
[06:57:40] I'm going to cast the Eul's, but we'll just keep an eye on it.
[06:57:43] Alright, sounds good.
[06:57:44] So, the Eul's might not be that great of a counter.
[06:57:45] I mean, if you tap him first, then Eul's, that's cool.
[06:57:48] That's great.
[06:57:49] You're farming.
[06:57:55] And Makoto coming in killing.
[06:57:56] Oh, they're on the hunt.
[06:57:58] The hunt, the hunt.
[06:57:59] Oh, did he get to blink away?
[06:58:01] They spot him, yes!
[06:58:02] Spear comes back the other direction now, the bushwhack, but he gets...what?
[06:58:06] Oh, the tree?
[06:58:07] What happened?
[06:58:08] Did he actually cut the tree?
[06:58:11] I don't know what went on there, but now that got 33, he's under fire, tries to
[06:58:15] tip or chain away, is not gonna work.
[06:58:18] They kill off the timber.
[06:58:19] That might have been a Mars hoodwink thing.
[06:58:23] What happened there?
[06:58:26] The spear break it or?
[06:58:27] Yeah, I think it did it.
[06:58:29] Oh, it's a sort of a Mars hoodwink issue, you know.
[06:58:31] It's a bit of a classic.
[06:58:32] Oh, look at that.
[06:58:33] So there's the spear.
[06:58:37] It canceled the tree, killed the tree.
[06:58:41] Oh, man.
[06:58:43] Okay.
[06:58:44] Very unfortunate.
[06:58:45] unfortunate. Hoodwink has so many of those actually. That's gonna be a change at some
[06:58:51] point where it's like Hoodwink prioritizes trees that haven't been speared to or something,
[06:58:57] you know what I mean? It's gotta be something like that. Well regardless, it is a 4k gold
[06:59:07] lead, not insurmountable as we saw in that last fight and playing with an Aegis is
[06:59:12] Definitely a way to get some extra value. I feel like you need to get a lot here out of this regen ages. So you're gonna jump 33
[06:59:21] He's priming he's going in there it is
[06:59:25] Chain now the spear back got him caught done right out. Do they have enough damage to kill me as another tipper chain gets away?
[06:59:33] Oh
[06:59:34] And now WS is in a world of hurt they drop down the supernova and Makoto does have another pole
[06:59:40] trying to bring BZM low, but it's not gonna be enough.
[06:59:44] Makoto low on mana, and temper chain chasing forward.
[06:59:48] WS does have arena back up, but it's low on HP in here.
[06:59:51] Oh, we are left behind.
[06:59:52] He's the one that is gonna have to hide away and be killed off.
[06:59:57] Defensive ag, they're trying to help things out with the sunray,
[07:00:00] but the bloodstone from BZM just too strong.
[07:00:03] Yeah.
[07:00:04] They need to drive them back. That's going to be the end of this ages here, right? They
[07:00:14] need this damage on nightfall to start stacking up. Yeah. I think they're realizing that it's
[07:00:19] like a satanic game. Looks like maybe even a rapier kind of game where you're feeling
[07:00:23] stronger. And unfortunately, Alchemist is going to be hitting a very strong timing
[07:00:29] obviously at the same time because that's what he said. I mean, he's only a little
[07:00:32] that I had though. Yeah, it's not a full item. Yeah, it's interesting. He's going to Dilver
[07:00:42] Edge too. I was thinking maybe more like Abyssal or something with how his team's playing, but
[07:00:49] it just expires. It's an Invis up top for BZM. But Pure continues to farm in these places
[07:00:57] and just get that little bit extra that he needs. Aurora got to be feeling a little bit
[07:01:03] desperate to make something happen here. They spot White Mon, but he is going to glimmer
[07:01:08] and just walk away. Storm? Zip? Finds himself a Shaman. That's a freebie.
[07:01:23] Yeah, nice. 11 charges now, 3.3 mana regen.
[07:01:32] Yeah, he'd be at 20 right now, right? So, he's showing the pain of that nerf.
[07:01:40] Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of crazy actually.
[07:01:43] pick up a couple more greedy enchantments that's now we're rejoin
[07:01:53] thanks everything yeah I mean you know just greed your way to BKB's and what
[07:01:57] not as that's what is up for three three as he's just about to finish his BKB if
[07:02:02] he wasn't already earning enough to kill do they spot him oh where's the
[07:02:08] actually TP's away that is BKB TP out just in this tier two actually
[07:02:19] wait if he shows up on this ward yeah there's shadowing BZM down bottom right
[07:02:24] now so I'm just gonna calmly take the tier two pretty good I mean they see
[07:02:32] that pure is up there and they know that he can't get to his team because
[07:02:36] just TP'd. But it looks like Tundra recognizing this as well is all going to back out of this
[07:02:43] area and will not be caught out.
[07:02:46] Yeah, and I followed the circle on the map saying they're like, hey, they're down there
[07:02:51] farming up top. I like the twin gate and stuff. Let's just get another item. Let me get
[07:02:56] my satanic.
[07:02:59] Karrie does pick up a gem. I'm not sure where it's flying around to right now.
[07:03:04] Kota has it.
[07:03:05] Ah, I passed it over, there we go.
[07:03:07] So try and deal with some of this vision.
[07:03:09] Very good wars, especially around the mid lane right now from Tundra.
[07:03:13] Right.
[07:03:15] Also gives him a way to kill Whitemon when he's sort of off alone on the map.
[07:03:20] And here.
[07:03:21] Yeah.
[07:03:22] Yeah.
[07:03:23] Kota, Zippin, hunting.
[07:03:26] Not finding though.
[07:03:28] So they get away.
[07:03:30] Now Tundra, are they going to try and make a move together?
[07:03:33] They just keep farming. They don't care man. Yeah, yeah
[07:03:37] Fine next roast is gonna spawn in it'll be a timer of 46 seconds obviously. Let's see
[07:03:46] No, nope. Nope. That's a long one. All right
[07:03:50] But
[07:03:52] I'm just working on team through today's feet. I don't see anybody
[07:03:56] They see the gyro mirror there to try and erupt it. They get the arena down the stock in a matter
[07:04:01] dead
[07:04:03] Nightfall gone before he can cast a fell or evil turn and be dropped down as well
[07:04:08] But this actually ends up being pretty okay for Aurora here because it's a long Rosary spawn
[07:04:15] So they'll get away for a moment on WS boat the timber chain now. It's kind of bad
[07:04:19] You never did it for a second. Yeah, that was not looking so good. Yeah now. It's not as good and Kari
[07:04:26] also being hunted right now
[07:04:29] Dive does not last it
[07:04:33] Oh my god, he's super novice.
[07:04:38] I think he died out afterwards.
[07:04:41] Yeah, he died in Sunray, but again, still no TP.
[07:04:46] Just for the slow game.
[07:04:49] Maybe they'll think I TP.
[07:04:51] I mean, honestly, not the worst idea, you know?
[07:04:55] Find some space.
[07:04:59] Well, they will be able to fight for Rosh at least,
[07:05:02] least but that feels pretty bad. Yeah I mean I thought he might want an Abyssal or something
[07:05:07] who needs an Abyssal when you just get the Gyro before the BKB anyway. Instant Hex and
[07:05:11] concoction there, doubling things up there, blowing up the Gyro and one of the reasons
[07:05:15] why I even like the idea of the Abyssal is because like they have nothing. If the Gyro
[07:05:19] gets stunned there's no save. Nothing can save or help them. I guess you could argue
[07:05:24] Sunray is probably the best thing they're going to have but that's only going to
[07:05:28] do so much, especially versus how much ridiculous burst damage there is inside of thunder.
[07:05:35] I mean, level 20 will be nice for the Jarrow 2 with the Flak cannons.
[07:05:38] That could maybe be enough just to break through a bit here.
[07:05:41] But I mean, 3-3, he's got this BKB, he's got the scratch, he's got tank.
[07:05:46] The thing about this that sucks is that it's like that,
[07:05:50] this fight could have been Nightfall getting into battle with them as he has Satanic, right?
[07:05:57] But now instead, he's, what, 2,000 gold off of it.
[07:05:59] They jump again, get pure!
[07:06:02] But now they zip in with Makoto, BKB,
[07:06:04] trying to find him to have enough damage,
[07:06:05] yet more they get him!
[07:06:07] Pure is gone!
[07:06:08] And now onto Ari.
[07:06:10] WS instant trouble.
[07:06:11] Very low finds that finish.
[07:06:13] The Bloodstone.
[07:06:14] I don't know if that's going to be enough for BZM.
[07:06:15] Makoto!
[07:06:16] Maybe it will.
[07:06:17] Makoto's solo ends up falling.
[07:06:19] Gem on the ground.
[07:06:21] Now, controlling onto 33, there's only these two cores left
[07:06:26] As they try and burn down the Timbersaw,
[07:06:28] as have the BKB Nightfall still on the chase,
[07:06:32] they've got the missile after him to boot,
[07:06:34] and when that falls up, we'll look at enough damage.
[07:06:37] It looks pretty close, and yes, 33 ends up dying.
[07:06:41] That's Roche.
[07:06:42] BZM can't get back in the fight to help either.
[07:06:45] Holy moly.
[07:06:48] Is that a gem hiding under a centaur right now,
[07:06:52] as they're peeing in it, so.
[07:06:53] What a play comes into deny it and that might stop them from being able to take Roche because
[07:07:04] everybody's going to be back up again.
[07:07:05] I mean it's not to turn them right now at least pull them down.
[07:07:09] I guess some medallion action here from Miro.
[07:07:14] Alright well Roche starts to fall, Storm back up in 20 and it looks like Tundra are
[07:07:22] We're not going to come and contest at the moment.
[07:07:24] They're afraid of it.
[07:07:25] They look so stressed.
[07:07:26] They're standing right now.
[07:07:27] They see the Alchemist mid.
[07:07:32] Jerry's going to ag, you know.
[07:07:33] It's like full panic.
[07:07:37] The coverage fear will be there.
[07:07:39] We'll get to the replay here.
[07:07:40] Yeah.
[07:07:41] I mean, one fight with a gyro, 100 to 0, immediate next fight.
[07:07:44] Alpha's 100 to 0.
[07:07:46] The one way that Tundra could probably lose one of these fights.
[07:07:50] Because the damage is such an issue. So many crates that look like it's well set that off there from Nightfalls.
[07:07:55] He hit into level 20 and Makoto almost got out. I mean, if this storm lives there, it's a bona fide disaster there for Tundra.
[07:08:02] But at least get a little bit back there. Still have a bit of a lead. It is an awkward lineup.
[07:08:06] But at the very least, they have the gyro copter on the top of the board at Nightfall.
[07:08:12] He wants to ensure that he can be a part of these engagements and really get maximum damage out there as possible.
[07:08:16] He's currently looking at a blink.
[07:08:17] would be pretty big. So one other thing about this is that this blink dagger timing, if
[07:08:25] he goes for it on nightfall, is going to coincide with the Mars agonims. So this agonim is very
[07:08:32] interesting. So 10 second lower cooldown and then if somebody on the opposing team dies,
[07:08:39] you get immediately 35% restore of max health and mana and then you also get 35% attack
[07:08:46] damage buff for 20 seconds. And it's the stacks per target that die.
[07:08:51] So we're bringing in the victory feast. We folded it into the hero, and like in a fight
[07:08:56] like that where they just blew up the elk, like the fight's over. It's just over, over.
[07:09:02] If you get the kill on the enemy core and that buff on a bunch of your allies.
[07:09:05] But am I crazy? Did victory feast have the attack damage component to it too?
[07:09:10] I think? I don't remember if it did. But regardless,
[07:09:14] Whatever the case is in this, it's going to be very, very good, and particularly if Gyrocopter
[07:09:20] can get in there and start doling out that damage.
[07:09:23] There's not much doling.
[07:09:28] Lincoln's is going to be the pick up for Makoto, and we'll get it off of these ancients
[07:09:33] as Ari is around hunting.
[07:09:37] Is he trying to make a play for this?
[07:09:42] Alright, R.A. is a little crazy.
[07:09:45] Yeah, a little bit.
[07:09:47] Yeah, a little silly goose.
[07:09:48] Gear just keeps him immediately at the opposite of the map.
[07:09:52] Makes sense.
[07:09:53] Get me out of there.
[07:09:58] Still a 7000 gold lead right now for Tundra.
[07:10:02] Don't guess we'll farm some snakes.
[07:10:06] I'll get that agonist.
[07:10:07] We're ready
[07:10:12] This to me feels like the epitome of the fake lead
[07:10:16] Yeah, this is big-time fake lead for sure right now. This this game is in control for Aurora
[07:10:22] But you know the the bashers done the evils coming next if they you know make their way through this ages
[07:10:29] If they can blow up nightfall
[07:10:31] game does
[07:10:33] He switches to do the fusel.
[07:10:35] Get that disperser going.
[07:10:36] That is crazy.
[07:10:38] Very nice.
[07:10:39] Aion discurs balls from Kaori to try and make sure he gets up good eggs.
[07:10:42] Does he start with an early hex?
[07:10:45] A fall.
[07:10:46] Still seeming fine.
[07:10:47] Pop since they can't take a little early.
[07:10:50] WS looking hungry.
[07:10:52] Wants a victory feast.
[07:10:56] I think there's like fried chicken in Valhalla.
[07:11:00] Sure.
[07:11:00] Yeah, I don't know are there are there any chickens in Scandinavia?
[07:11:05] We do have the people that we can talk to about it. Ah, they're busy. I'm thinking about it. I can't help us
[07:11:14] 33
[07:11:17] You notice there that I didn't want to stay a particular country. Yeah, no, that was wise. Yeah, I know how this goes
[07:11:23] White Mawn jumped upon BZM, finds Kaori, guess what? That's an Aeon disc. No good for you there.
[07:11:29] Oh, the 4-step is on a good note. The second salvo. They didn't quite get it.
[07:11:33] Nightfall's still ready to go for the chase down here.
[07:11:35] Now Maura's waiting, looking.
[07:11:37] Well, all turns to hit. Nightfall is not doing it at all.
[07:11:40] They're not faced in Lyrical.
[07:11:41] He's dead. They're still faced. They need to find a kill desperately there.
[07:11:45] And will take down one, but it's already, it's not good enough.
[07:11:48] enough and now Nightfall also in trouble. The Static not back off cooldown four steps trying to
[07:11:54] survive the Nightfall away. It keeps him alive. Mira the one that is going to be left behind here
[07:12:01] but that one hurt. Okay so what double buybacks? Yeah but yeah obviously you're still well well
[07:12:12] worth it there for Tundra to pick up a gem in the end as well so add that to the list of
[07:12:17] the things that are lost there from the side of Aurora. They get their gyro, look at 13,000
[07:12:22] damage by the gyrocopter. He's put in the doom on his back, but it's still not enough.
[07:12:25] And now in agonums, who's W from Purex? He's deciding, he thinks long and hard about it,
[07:12:32] and he gives it a 3-3, because we get the replay here. I mean, it's this mid-fight
[07:12:39] feast where, I always have been, sorry, a mid-fight arena where it doesn't even
[07:12:43] You can't get the spear, beautiful BKB there, it's not holding on for that long in the fight.
[07:12:47] But you're trying to get this arena kill fight happens after, you know?
[07:12:53] That's not the way to try to draw up these engagements.
[07:12:56] Oh man, I don't know.
[07:13:00] This one feels tough.
[07:13:04] I still feel like if they're not getting kills in this Mars arena, it feels pretty
[07:13:12] bad.
[07:13:13] They've got to find a way to set that up and like take somebody out at the beginning of the fight
[07:13:17] Yeah, it makes the eggs do nothing it turns out
[07:13:24] You're not wrong you are not wrong
[07:13:27] So anybody that gets really destroyed by the defusal blade, I guess like maybe
[07:13:33] You know, yeah, I mean next step. There's chances. I think the most part. It's just disperse her
[07:13:38] You know, that's all you really care about
[07:13:39] It's just so I can have because like if BKB is so bad now and we're not getting these
[07:13:44] Refreshers on it then like having a satanic dispell having a disperser dispell those are only really useful items now for all of your carries
[07:13:51] Right, even though they already were but like just dispells just got a massive buff essentially
[07:13:56] Makoto trailing behind the rest of the squad mirrors gonna get him caught up in the smoke as they try and make a move
[07:14:02] It's gonna be a little bit slow as they were not all together and tundra seemingly reading this
[07:14:08] the BZM this arena all right ZM does he show oh 33 went through them all and they
[07:14:17] blow him up though instead they jump way to the side and try to go on the
[07:14:21] bellows the bellow is dead maybe an opportunity here's BZM is BKB wearing
[07:14:26] low they get the arena down and he's going to night vault and stand a chance
[07:14:31] Oh pure finds his target blows them up and I mean they lose two for it but you
[07:14:40] cannot afford to have your carry go down like that without pressing a button
[07:14:43] he's just getting hexed I don't know you got you got hexed can't play the game
[07:14:49] that's what's happening are you too good
[07:14:56] What can you do doesn't have the chicken fingers still gets there
[07:15:02] You like they need to get I don't know maybe any eggs on Phoenix that probably just dies to though. I don't know
[07:15:09] Maybe acts on Phoenix is the answer
[07:15:13] That is I mean won't they just kill the egg though. Yeah, I think you're
[07:15:20] You can save it with the Mars arena at the very least right cuz like
[07:15:24] Yeah, sure it can hit hard, but like flesh isn't have crazy attacks being you're not gonna go and punch it as like
[07:15:30] That's shaman really I don't think but
[07:15:33] No, maybe actually right now
[07:15:36] How much damage they have could get interesting
[07:15:40] Yeah, they don't have anybody else nearby 33 trying to get bad. He's pulling on a lotus, but they give up on it
[07:15:48] Yeah, I guess without nightfall they just they don't have the damage yet
[07:15:54] 41 minutes, 17,000 gold lead, Tundra taking an advantage, but obviously still capable
[07:16:06] of fighting on the Aurora lineup.
[07:16:11] Alright, they're taking a breath.
[07:16:23] What do you think about it here?
[07:16:24] Roche?
[07:16:25] Is up.
[07:16:26] Alright, so, we go again.
[07:16:34] We find a good arena.
[07:16:35] Our Gerald Copper Preston's BKB.
[07:16:39] One good fight.
[07:16:40] what they're looking for. A BZM, he's got a side. Oh, it's close. A WS, he's going to
[07:16:46] the high ground division from the Plagueboards, he's there. This team won. He's caught. Now
[07:16:51] they jump, find Aria. He didn't get the hex and time enough. And now WPUS is dead, but
[07:16:56] the arena and the, well, Supernova down means both supports are dead on the side
[07:17:02] of Tundra. They also don't have their Mars anymore. Kodo had to TP back home.
[07:17:08] BZM trying to find a target, Mira's backing away from him.
[07:17:12] Interesting, where is the BKB to go and crest him?
[07:17:15] He'd have TPed out of Tatha from Kaori, they turned back on the BZM.
[07:17:19] Mira, you're crazy.
[07:17:21] Makoto is coming in, but that's a little bit too scary.
[07:17:24] With no BKB on Nightfall, it's a little bit too hard to take that chase.
[07:17:27] Why is it going to be green?
[07:17:28] It jumps in.
[07:17:29] I mean, you know what, a Mars flyback?
[07:17:32] Is that what he's trying to bait here?
[07:17:34] Is that like Mars for the flyback and kill him?
[07:17:36] He's that confident?
[07:17:37] I mean, he is holding a BKB.
[07:17:38] he's right yeah the bkb timings are really deciding what's going on in these fights they
[07:17:44] didn't use it on the mars and now they're going to the rush pit they do this very quickly
[07:17:50] bzm with another great hex i mean the hexes are just absolutely killing a war in this
[07:17:54] game getting ws there and now that it's that awkward time where he doesn't want
[07:17:58] to buy back but this is the cheese and refresher sharp roche roche no roar that
[07:18:04] Might be the difference
[07:18:06] Thanks about jumping fine not again
[07:18:08] onto two the follow-up text is there they gotta do something to salvage this
[07:18:11] But it's not gonna happen it's time to summary out the heck he's gone
[07:18:15] They take down the gyro. It was so close and getting satanic and turning I can't but to no avail
[07:18:27] Oh
[07:18:28] Brutal just yeah, absolutely brutal pressure there from tundra. They just
[07:18:32] You can't you can't go for those greedy little plays those tiny little things trying to get to your post there when some heroes are dead
[07:18:39] You're playing lopsided, you know
[07:18:41] You're it's like you're at the grocery store one of the wheels just doesn't work
[07:18:44] Someone's always dead, you know, they're just squeaking their way through the end of this game
[07:18:49] They can't get the arenas down. Some of the cores are getting hexed before they get their PK bees off. They just
[07:18:56] There's just squeaky wheeling everywhere and that now three three is gonna dig on
[07:19:00] It's pretty high
[07:19:02] Man you drop down the urnaconda
[07:19:07] And at this point in the game you got to try and figure out what the hell are we gonna do on Aurora?
[07:19:13] I mean gyros still dead for 40
[07:19:16] Has not been able to get his abilities off really they're gonna kill off the wave as he zipped through on Makoto
[07:19:23] But I mean he will have eggs actually if he wants to finish pick that up
[07:19:29] He's getting on to the rest again
[07:19:32] Good jump. Pure there too. They have a pop DKBs.
[07:19:37] I mean, they have Paganem's on at the storm.
[07:19:41] Alright, now we're going to wait for the Jawa, right?
[07:19:43] See him? They're thinking about it.
[07:19:45] Jump in, zip, pull, Makoto's spear arena onto two, fighting the kill.
[07:19:49] Yes! A victory feast. They're feasting.
[07:19:52] 70% attack damage. They're feasting.
[07:19:55] They have the damage that they need though.
[07:19:57] Makoto thinking about turning. They immediately go forward.
[07:20:00] The right cooks!
[07:20:01] Whoa!
[07:20:02] He has almost enough!
[07:20:06] Oh, they would have just been attacking that whole time.
[07:20:10] I think he dies.
[07:20:11] It's 70% bonus damage on him.
[07:20:14] I mean, they're alive right now at the very least.
[07:20:16] What happened if you're...
[07:20:19] Oh, we don't even know.
[07:20:19] He was dead so fast.
[07:20:24] Man, that was, yeah, I mean,
[07:20:25] that was insanely close to this point in the game.
[07:20:30] I mean, Storm is at a crazy point this game right now, too.
[07:20:34] 3-3 looking real guilty with a digon right now.
[07:20:37] Oh, I thought this was a digon lead right now, my bad.
[07:20:41] They drop down a ward.
[07:20:43] Understanding what's going on.
[07:20:45] Acorn shot out.
[07:20:47] Auri is still nearby.
[07:20:48] They drop down the ulti, trying to force them away.
[07:20:51] They want to try and force a buyback out of pure,
[07:20:54] but I don't know if they're going to get it.
[07:20:57] Yeah, looks like the answer is no.
[07:21:01] Alright, well back we go again.
[07:21:03] I mean, you're still so far ahead right now on Tundra, but you can't feel comfortable
[07:21:09] having lost the Aegis that quickly.
[07:21:12] Auri is buying up a BKB right now on the Shadow Shaman, which is again gonna be another
[07:21:19] big problem.
[07:21:20] Like the BKBs are just killing Aurora.
[07:21:22] Okay, Auri though.
[07:21:23] He's got the item queued up.
[07:21:27] Wind Waker. That might be an answer. Oh, I suppose we should show him that is true. I see what you're saying.
[07:21:33] I was just thinking like a like a scepter or something something crazy. Oh, that's good. Wind Waker is good.
[07:21:39] I would I'm wondering if Nightfall I guess he's kind of committed because he's got the blink dagger, but like we are
[07:21:45] I'm looking like it's rapier time for you too.
[07:21:48] Surely.
[07:21:49] My god, it takes so much damage from this part.
[07:21:52] Oh my god no!
[07:21:55] It's a catastrophe!
[07:21:57] I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't!
[07:22:00] No, they're dead!
[07:22:01] I got pie back on them only!
[07:22:03] Oh no!
[07:22:04] I can't.
[07:22:05] No.
[07:22:06] Not like this man.
[07:22:08] The patch!
[07:22:09] The patch!
[07:22:10] That one has a steeper patch!
[07:22:13] This is the upper bracket!
[07:22:14] What's going on?
[07:22:18] Oh god, they have to bring five.
[07:22:21] That is what we have figured out in this game.
[07:22:24] That is what we have decided.
[07:22:27] Trent, how does this game end like that?
[07:22:35] Well, maybe if we equally increase, we'll go the other way, perhaps.
[07:22:38] As they get ready to jump in here with fear.
[07:22:40] No break!
[07:22:41] Don't find their man!
[07:22:43] Where's the victory piece?
[07:22:44] Where's the heals? It's not their time, but they both hurt it!
[07:22:47] Wait, wait!
[07:22:48] Just any arena game!
[07:22:49] Wait!
[07:22:50] It was a bait!
[07:22:51] They lost the tormentor on purpose!
[07:22:53] Don't say any true!
[07:22:55] Do you believe in miracles that hold from hell as 33 gets dove-on with the turnaround
[07:23:01] with the Lotus's?
[07:23:02] That is what they needed.
[07:23:09] Thanks, shop on a cheese.
[07:23:10] Pure buys back into this game and all of a sudden
[07:23:13] There's a wind condition.
[07:23:15] There's a big, fat, stinky, seven-and-a-half-minute-long wind condition here on the side of Aurora.
[07:23:22] Indeed, the genius bait.
[07:23:24] Surely, if we just tease Pure, he'll be forced to jump in and commit our Jailcopter,
[07:23:29] and the heals are just enough to get him through the abyssal end of the Satanic somehow!
[07:23:35] Turning on the heals.
[07:23:38] If they turn on the heals, they're trying to escape. Am I right?
[07:23:41] right? Not wrong. Okay, okay, okay. I mean, shard and level 25 on Storm Spirit starts
[07:23:50] feeling pretty insane damage to combo together with the Gyro, but it's not
[07:23:59] gonna be rapier. Nightfall not opting for that, picking up instead the Swift
[07:24:03] Blink, and now they walk right in, they find BZM. BZM in trouble, no way to be
[07:24:08] saved. And another clutch core kill for Aurora.
[07:24:14] Oh, buddy. What to do now, though? Yeah, what to do? I mean,
[07:24:20] do you just control the waves? Like you've got mid and bottom
[07:24:24] constantly being pressured in. He's crying. Oh, I got here.
[07:24:28] And I don't know. Keep in mind that they do have that
[07:24:33] Wind Waker done now. And I think that they will stay with
[07:24:36] that item nearby cores continuously and they won't be able to defend this ward
[07:24:41] either they got them that kill on the LESH so yeah they're just gonna push out
[07:24:45] the waves but the waves are gonna come back you see it's like the tide you know
[07:24:49] through and right now the moon is very strong for Tundra since they've
[07:24:53] taken two racks and the moon controls the tides lyrical they're popping the
[07:24:58] amp they think that somebody was gonna show up here it's interesting that he
[07:25:03] pops the imp damage right now.
[07:25:08] I guess he wants to keep all of his items in his inventory.
[07:25:11] Yeah.
[07:25:15] Well, 50 minutes and another tier two tower
[07:25:18] are going to be taken as they claim this side of the map.
[07:25:21] I mean, the big thing about this now
[07:25:22] is that if they can hold this area,
[07:25:24] this is Roche for them potentially
[07:25:26] in one to four minutes.
[07:25:28] No.
[07:25:29] Bro.
[07:25:33] That is so annoying.
[07:25:35] Yeah, that gold got a hand!
[07:25:37] You gotta stay back from that thing.
[07:25:39] Oh, man.
[07:25:41] Don't worry, nobody saw it. It's fine.
[07:25:43] Yeah, that's fine. It's fine.
[07:25:45] As long as the team doesn't know that you're missing it for 2.5 minutes,
[07:25:47] it'll be alright.
[07:25:50] What if that's the difference maker in this next fight?
[07:25:53] Because there's gonna be a Roach fight,
[07:25:54] and then you're not gonna have an A on disc.
[07:25:56] I trust nothing, dude.
[07:25:57] They lost Heroes of Tormenter and it worked out for them.
[07:25:59] Nothing's real in this game.
[07:26:03] Well, for now, Makoto is playing very far forward, does have his Lincoln's and is
[07:26:09] going to back out now to farm up, but you can see anything can happen. It's all
[07:26:15] possible.
[07:26:18] Surely, surely we're to sell the wraps for a bigger item point of the game, aren't we?
[07:26:23] If this item is this good for 2600 gold, we got another problem.
[07:26:28] That's true.
[07:26:29] Alright, how long on the Rosary spawn?
[07:26:32] It is a minute 40, and it was last taken by Tundra, so they're going to be the ones that
[07:26:38] get the Roar.
[07:26:39] Oh, big level 25 for Kaori.
[07:26:42] The stupid Nova hit cap goes up.
[07:26:44] He just wants the egg and sunray.
[07:26:47] He needs to keep his tower comp alive.
[07:26:49] He's hurt what happened last time.
[07:26:52] Goes in very brazenly here with his 25 temper chain projectiles to be needed distance.
[07:26:58] Now arena refresher. So you can start with arena now on WS.
[07:27:05] That's true. Again, does not refresh items. Let's all, let's all remember.
[07:27:12] Before you start typing something that he didn't do.
[07:27:16] Items no longer being refreshed. Kind of crazy.
[07:27:20] Alright, smoke up. This could be it.
[07:27:28] Alright, buybacks.
[07:27:30] Gyrocopter. Storm.
[07:27:32] Hoodwind 3.
[07:27:34] 33.
[07:27:36] They jump him to the start.
[07:27:38] Now the arena down. Good damage.
[07:27:40] Ori trying to stop this from happening. Supernova already used that one dead.
[07:27:44] Now they have increased damage. The turn.
[07:27:46] On to pure. He's dying. They're falling.
[07:27:48] Oh, Puntra, you made a mistake here this time.
[07:27:51] As BZM dies, a triple kill.
[07:27:54] 140% attack damage.
[07:27:57] You can't take this fight! Look at how much damage Nightfall has! It's basically a rapier!
[07:28:02] Oh, they're back though.
[07:28:03] If they full control on him, it would be good, but I don't know! Look at the hits! Look at the hits!
[07:28:07] Oh, he's doing so much! He's dying to kill the Rampage!
[07:28:11] He is way too strong!
[07:28:13] He's facing upon their lives.
[07:28:16] Oh, baby!
[07:28:19] They run it down!
[07:28:22] Four stacks of victory fees and nightfall waited for the perfect moment.
[07:28:29] Oh jeez, that Mara's Agathams is sick.
[07:28:34] Never doubted obviously here as the, I mean the, cause the whole strap from Tundra is we're going to v3-3.
[07:28:39] He's going to go on to die. We'll get back in the fight. He's in a full for buyback and pause.
[07:28:43] We can rejoin. We're on the outpost. But yeah, you're right.
[07:28:47] The stacks, they're common. They get real fast.
[07:28:50] And look at this. They're going straight for the end. They saw the buybacks there and not any up and available.
[07:28:56] And that was a rapier bot by Gyro. Rapier bot by Storm. They're coming to end of this game as they focus the tier four towers Aurora.
[07:29:06] It should not have been possible, but they're coming in with a clutch finish here as they are going to even this series up barring something insane.
[07:29:14] Wait, already killed the wave? Wait, already did it?
[07:29:18] No, there are still creeps here. There's still creeps here. There are folks in the agent.
[07:29:21] Only 30 more seconds, but GG is called.
[07:29:25] What a game for Aurora.
[07:29:28] It truly had everything, folks.
[07:29:31] There were ups, there were towns, there were tormentors, killing teams, leading to somehow that causing a mistake for their opponent.
[07:29:39] And all in all, we become blessed to get a game 3 thanks to them. So, praise the tormentor, y'all.
[07:29:47] That's right
[07:29:50] Well, you know it's interesting something that winter was talking about on the panel at the beginning which is this dynamic of nightfall in WS
[07:29:58] Nightfall does not have the damage to win that fight if not for WS's items selection
[07:30:03] He held off on the radio went for those other stuff instead, and it was the perfect answer
[07:30:08] Oh, I came down to just like it's one of these games were like one more fight
[07:30:12] We just need one fight, you know, Tundra need lots of fights for the win.
[07:30:15] If we just get that one big fight for Aurora, we can do this.
[07:30:19] And things refuse to connect and they refuse to press their buttons.
[07:30:23] But eventually they got there.
[07:30:26] Good stuff. The series all tied up here in the upper bracket.
[07:30:29] Aurora push us through game number three.
[07:30:34] We are shocked.
[07:30:35] We're blown away.
[07:30:36] We're flabbergasted about what's just happened here.
[07:30:38] I cannot believe that tundra lost that game take up the I mean I thought this was it
[07:30:44] I thought this was the memory which I had lost but that's a little bit you know dying to the tormentor apparently secures in the game
[07:30:58] Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, sorry my bad. I knew myself cause too too excited by this game for though
[07:31:02] I love when whenever we have commenter changes it makes it so much more enjoyable
[07:31:07] We honestly should request from Valve to mend the changes like every other week just up the damage number here
[07:31:13] Percent their HP here. It was like, oh, it's just hilarious when teams go for it
[07:31:17] But you've got to get so much praise for Aurora. I think specifically between WS and Matoto, these two players
[07:31:23] They found multiple little jumps in the mid to late game that just brought that extra little bit of time
[07:31:28] That extra chance to get another kill. Of course, we can talk to great lengths about, you know, pure getting picked off multiple times
[07:31:34] he went to high ground, getting hunched to 0, the way he used the buyback on the mid fight,
[07:31:38] but yeah, just a massive W towards both Marshal Storm. That pick of potential really was just
[07:31:43] amazing.
[07:31:44] Winzer?
[07:31:45] Yeah, both WS and Mikoto, they played this sort of game so many times in C. Every game
[07:31:51] goes to 60 minutes, you know, we are the best players at 60-70 minute games, you
[07:31:56] know. We live, we drive in the chaos. But yeah, I mean, pure, definitely, I
[07:32:01] I thought there were some of the fights where his jumps, maybe it could have worked, you know,
[07:32:05] because some of the last fight, I felt like he thought they would kill, was it the gyro or the...
[07:32:12] The gyro, yeah, the shaman didn't jump in, right?
[07:32:14] Yeah, the shaman didn't jump in, they didn't all in that kill, but I could also understand
[07:32:17] why Ari didn't want to go in there, and it seemed like it was a risk-taking to do
[07:32:21] and it seemed like he could have killed the gyro with the elk, you know, so...
[07:32:25] It was just like a very difficult deletion, and after that, I felt like he kind of like
[07:32:30] just killed it and he bought back even in the previous fight. I don't know man. That looked
[07:32:35] like some sort of implosion there by Pio.
[07:32:39] To me, this is the biggest example that we've had on the patch where like refresher orb
[07:32:43] changes really came to light. We've had some like other games where like you can kind
[07:32:47] of like loosely try and connect it just for the sake of your talking but this game
[07:32:51] like this is the game where refresher orb changes everything right. Like for Tundra,
[07:32:55] you got 33 randomly buying like a Dagon later into the game. Of course you got these
[07:32:59] epic jumps like there's no double BKB available for pure there's no double hex
[07:33:03] available for 33 late when they have this goldy when they've broken the base of
[07:33:06] Aurora all do the two seven point four zero you buy a refresher you are winning
[07:33:11] this game every single time but they can't they are unable to do it due to
[07:33:14] the patch change and for Aurora there's one refresher in place of WS on
[07:33:18] the Mars double arenas double spears double pick offs you know that the
[07:33:21] reason why I feel like this late game was so playable was because of these
[07:33:25] other chains that we've seen in the patch in tundra now you just the
[07:33:28] items they're buying later on just felt like they were just kind of buying what they kind of
[07:33:32] vibed in the moment, rather than it being objectively the best item for the game. And
[07:33:36] Aurora, they just kept holding true, like, we can still win this game, we're not going to give up,
[07:33:40] we know that we can try and force a mistake from Tundra, and then you're ending on an
[07:33:44] epic rampage from Nightfall due to the work of his team. So to me, this is like,
[07:33:49] proof that Refresher has kind of shaped the late game.
[07:33:52] It definitely has, yeah. And we always knew the team fight was going to be there for
[07:33:55] more when it came down to it. But that late game as well, comboed up with the low timings of the BKB is a lack of
[07:34:01] refreshing the BKB is and the storm spirit damage was just absolutely ridiculous. Like, sure, the jar got the rampage in the
[07:34:08] end. I mean, obviously we know jar got the late game does damage, but like, when to the impact that he had on the
[07:34:14] storm spirit in the late game, you know, like, how would you compare it to the jar got the, what was the
[07:34:18] balance there?
[07:34:19] Well, I felt like his impact was mainly felt like in the early game, I think the first 20
[07:34:24] minutes of the game, I think the whole 20 minutes they were fighting on the top side of the map
[07:34:29] trying to pressure the elk.
[07:34:31] I think Agira really did excel in the early game, connecting to the mass, pressuring.
[07:34:35] I think in the late game, he kind of needed his teammate, he relied on his teammates
[07:34:40] a lot more and I felt like they were able to win some of the fights because Tundra
[07:34:45] just kind of gave it to them, either with their item choices not being the best and some of their
[07:34:51] jumps and initiations were just not really on point. I felt like they were a little bit cocky
[07:34:56] because they had like such a huge lead and they just didn't really initiate cleanly and they didn't
[07:35:01] finish the game. They probably thought the game was already over. This is going to test them
[07:35:06] a lot. How can they come back in the next game, you know, after losing a game like this?
[07:35:11] It certainly is. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this one looked like it was in the bag,
[07:35:14] But all of a sudden they're fighting against it and then you know one two three fights in a row and yeah
[07:35:19] It's all over. I really did just change so so quickly like I really thought they had this one
[07:35:25] But and they look like they did as well
[07:35:27] You know even the day gone coming out on the air timber last thing on a touch on tea governor
[07:35:30] They got on timber, you know a little bit. We've already won
[07:35:33] I'm gonna get myself a bit of car strange a little bit of a you know clock in my pocket
[07:35:37] Or is this the actually a good item to timber?
[07:35:40] I mean it feels kind of like if there was like the spell life still in play still then maybe you can argue for it
[07:35:45] But it just kind of felt like a I want a bit of cast range. I'm gonna pick it up
[07:35:49] Why not I have this a lot available
[07:35:50] But like I think the comparison there is like your timbers picking up a late game daygown
[07:35:54] And then Mars they're here that used to have victory feasts the entire game
[07:35:58] Then has to now buy an agonims to kind of pick up the same thing now to kind of get that regeneration
[07:36:03] So it's like you've seen Mars the game to get it harder harder harder
[07:36:06] He gets an act now there's like clutch potential gets the refresher. There's clutch potential and then it's like timber
[07:36:11] He already hit his peak and like his item wasn't allow him to like continue scaling it just kind of like plateaued right so
[07:36:16] That's another big kind of comparison is how like timber and the Mars itemization Mars just kept going up
[07:36:22] What's timber kind of hit a bit of a flat line?
[07:36:24] It's also a lack of AC right? I didn't get AC on on the elk
[07:36:28] You know so the elk felt like he kind of was pretty paper and some of the fights he went in and
[07:36:33] And he just died, you know, to right-click on whatever that was right clicking in the gyro or the storm and he just disappeared, you know
[07:36:40] So it wasn't just the itemization on the team. It was also the elk, you know
[07:36:44] I felt like he could have maybe had an AC and that would have definitely helped them end the game
[07:36:49] Few small mistakes and a few big ones as well and all of a sudden it all disappears for Tundra
[07:36:55] This game too just switching around with his head and bringing us to a third game here in the upper bracket
[07:37:02] I cannot wait to find out what's gonna happen in this third game. Are we gonna get some more heroes?
[07:37:06] Are we gonna get some more comebacks? I don't know. We'll be back after this short break to find out
[07:38:02] The earth's coming and out to you
[07:38:04] So you better don't worry
[07:38:06] You're gonna start running
[07:38:09] I think I saw him outside the door
[07:38:11] I think I saw him on camera before
[07:38:14] And he's had a big night
[07:38:16] Now I'm all your life
[07:38:19] So let him catch you
[07:38:22] He's out to get you
[07:38:24] He wants to drink your blood tonight
[07:38:27] These are to get you, you want to cut you, and take a trophy home tonight.
[07:38:37] Me and once to be your friend, you better say no, you better go go go.
[07:38:51] I think I started money early
[07:38:54] I think I started with you in the game in the time
[07:38:58] You want to do it again
[07:39:02] Don't let him catch you
[07:39:05] He's out to get you
[07:39:07] He wants to change the world tonight
[07:39:12] He's out to get you
[07:39:15] He wants to catch you
[07:39:17] And take a stroke beyond tonight
[07:39:50] You said love the rabbit, I'm just not your bird You said I need a man that, but you just don't be a-
[07:40:11] You said love the rabbit, but now I know you do You said I need a man that, but you just don't be a-
[07:40:16] So we won't get fooled again
[07:40:18] Yeah, let's go
[07:40:19] Get fooled again
[07:41:16] Us, cause this ain't our time
[07:42:46] I really really have to go
[07:42:50] We're the best good children in the rock and roll
[07:42:55] My mommies took the daughter and me
[07:42:58] My sister never wanted me hanging around
[07:43:02] And my daddy left in 63
[07:43:06] I'm so sorry but I gotta go
[07:43:10] I'm so sorry but I gotta go
[07:43:13] Nothing but a kiss on my lips
[07:43:18] I don't get it, really, nothing but a kiss on my lips
[07:43:37] Nothing but a kiss on my lips
[07:43:41] I remember when I got up
[07:43:45] Goodbye, he's on the line
[07:43:49] I really, really have to go
[07:43:53] Walked and rocked his life back to me
[07:43:57] They wonder why I keep coming back
[07:44:00] But when Elvis died and all of the grown
[07:44:05] He never doesn't think that he likes
[07:44:08] Goodbye, he's on the line
[07:45:11] you might be surprised that we're still here, but we are and we are very happy to be as well because
[07:45:16] we get a third game in this series between these two gargantuan teams. They're smashing it right now
[07:45:24] and they are showing us why they are in the upper bracket here at ESL one, because you can never
[07:45:30] count them out of this series. Ignore the, you know, the died mentor and the question
[07:45:36] will buy back. You know, those things are, you know, it's just a heat in the moment kind
[07:45:39] to deal but everything else has been sublime and I'm really excited that we get to see one more
[07:45:43] game between these guys uh very quickly winter what do you think is anything going to get through
[07:45:48] the bands here that we've seen kickoff in the previous games you know are we going to see a
[07:45:52] pango get not very long no pango no pango pango equals no dota i'd rather watch uh plus one
[07:46:04] that's kind of the plus or less i look good man it looked like it was going to be able to
[07:46:08] take them all the way, but yeah, just found the last hand a lot, unfortunately.
[07:46:13] Yeah, I mean, the previous moves, one of the next, like, you probably don't over it too much in the
[07:46:18] draft, right? Because for Tundra, they were able to kind of set up to the mid game, they were
[07:46:22] able to, you know, break a roar, get two racks, like, you can kind of praise that phase of the
[07:46:26] game. Sure, there's a lot of critique for like the ultra late item choice, pure positioning
[07:46:32] choice, no biggie being choice. But, you know, I feel like draft wise, we might see kind
[07:46:38] of some same context, of course, Tundra have promoted Phoenix into a band after the first
[07:46:43] two games. That means Shakira is available again, for a fake nerfed in the patch. This
[07:46:49] mana cost needs to be like, triple, if not, X10 the mana cost for it to be, to be
[07:46:56] a true nerf.
[07:46:57] 200 mana cost?
[07:47:00] Are you serious?
[07:47:02] I... mmhmm, yep, it should be liquid deleted if you really want to cure it and not be first
[07:47:09] pickable.
[07:47:10] This thing's gonna be...
[07:47:11] I mean the damage level's gonna go down, or the mana cost is gonna be so egregiously
[07:47:14] high.
[07:47:15] Okay, I'll meet you in the middle.
[07:47:20] 99.
[07:47:21] Thank you.
[07:47:22] You're such a gentleman.
[07:47:23] Thank you.
[07:47:24] You're such a gentleman.
[07:47:26] Thank you, thank you.
[07:47:27] Yeah, no worries.
[07:47:28] Welcome to Barley Art.
[07:47:31] Yeah, out of negotiations.
[07:47:33] Yeah, we made it in the middle, yeah?
[07:47:35] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[07:47:36] I don't promise all that this time.
[07:47:39] Nice, Tuscur.
[07:47:41] We are back.
[07:47:43] Tuscur, drinking buddies.
[07:47:46] Yeah, which we didn't actually see the last time the Tusk was pecked at this here,
[07:47:49] so maybe Tundra are gonna go for the shot?
[07:47:53] because I think it looks really good as well, but yeah, we didn't see it the last test game. We were very excited for it
[07:48:00] Tag team and drinking buddies
[07:48:03] And don't forget drinking buddies because French very good like we went through an hour shot
[07:48:09] Shukuf when Panto bought four staff in the previous game
[07:48:12] Why like why would you even buy four stuff?
[07:48:16] I don't know like if you go drinking buddies first to get the pool then you can go for stuff after if you really want to have all the
[07:48:24] Displacement in the world, right? But you know it was it was a shock
[07:48:29] Maybe he just really parade on the 5050 on the commenter and just lost
[07:48:34] Okay, so the thing before the toss here, right?
[07:48:37] Kind of feel like maybe against Jack hero. You don't really want to go to that lane
[07:48:41] I'm not even the toss here if I'm picking toss right now. I want to be on a safe lane
[07:48:46] with a range carry. I don't want to be a 4 this game. It's a hero. There's been a lot of like I think
[07:48:51] meta gaming about the post-4 and post-5 heroes where you try to avoid each other by swapping
[07:48:55] lanes. I think that might happen here. Winter was the ever-solution. What's the solution?
[07:49:03] It's Venomancer. He has to attack twice. That's two procs of his, uh, it's, it's, it's a
[07:49:09] Talk thing doesn't it amazing what once that if you
[07:49:14] Does it actually prop twice? You know that just proxies many as times they attack
[07:49:21] Isn't it every attack it's every attack. I'm bad. That's when I tested that's what happens
[07:49:27] So one would imagine they're nice to counter the jekyll
[07:49:31] Thank you. Thank you. That's what I wanted to hear
[07:49:33] Validation. It fuels me. Don't worry lads. I'm going lobby. I'll go check. We're not
[07:49:40] We've got some time. It's not as if jikiro tusk is too riveting in the opening phase. Yeah
[07:49:44] We got some fans coming through and well life's it has gone. Oh, they were bound out of the timber store a bit of respect
[07:49:51] Well for themselves kind of cocky actually
[07:49:56] Yeah, who's going to get off this game? It is both both for jikiro's hits full profit
[07:50:03] Alright, the jacquero counter. Okay the elk is out.
[07:50:08] No team burrow, so what is the elk counter?
[07:50:13] Before we go to the what's the counters, I do want to say like I am happy that
[07:50:17] Undra is showing that you can pick elk and still play a normal game
[07:50:21] because I think after the Watson blind aggs, the game on a pure buying aggs,
[07:50:24] you know it's easy to meme like this is the build but I think they just
[07:50:27] run the previous game that like you don't always need to need to do it,
[07:50:31] you can just play a normal game because I think other players watching this right now like let's say some of the tier 2 teams
[07:50:36] They'd have been like oh wow that's the meta Wow
[07:50:38] This is crazy, you know and suddenly it would have been in every single game
[07:50:41] But Chandra already within the first day just kind of showing nope
[07:50:44] There is there is depth to this of course nightfall he has played out for in the tournament as well, but
[07:50:50] Yeah, that's the beauty of Dota right? There's always a situation that you have to do something different and you can't do the same thing every game
[07:50:57] Exactly. You have to be dynamic and don't have to be able to thrive. You have to be able to change up your skill builds like them builds, pretty much read for the game. You can have a really copy paste on things, all games.
[07:51:08] Now, we have the hoodwink coming out from Aurora, so, uh, opening with a double support.
[07:51:18] It's okay, but it is kind of rough to open double support sometimes when you can't really
[07:51:24] pull out an answer now from your, uh, from your backline.
[07:51:26] I mean, it's only rough if you don't pick, like, if they pick the same Mars or like
[07:51:30] a Stroll Offender here, and now you're giving all the information in the draft
[07:51:34] towards your mid and carry, you're probably going to be pretty happy, right?
[07:51:37] already see the Alchemist, maybe there's some creative in the patch to enable it to go to
[07:51:43] other roles, whatever. We haven't seen it yet, but I kind of feel like Aurora's best draft
[07:51:48] setup here is picking the off lane. So if you go for the brew, they decide that Vars
[07:51:51] is maybe more punishable in this open pick position. I think the main thing when I
[07:51:56] see the brew is that I want them to actually play through the brew roster. In game one,
[07:52:01] he had Midas Ag, level 12, very good timing, but then he never really got any more kills.
[07:52:06] I think he was like 112 or some shit and KDA, you know, it was like rough
[07:52:10] So really looking for them the first game was like a fair game to SS, you know, because that's the
[07:52:18] It kind of just ruined everything. I think it's blue but this timing if it wasn't for the penguin
[07:52:24] He could have actually done a lot. So I think this game it might be entirely different
[07:52:29] You have the jacquero that can come through the gates and you can help enable the blue master
[07:52:33] So I think so definitely gonna be different here. No, I hope it's a lot of pressure
[07:52:38] Yeah, they can pressure the L they can invade his jungle put a wall behind the tower
[07:52:42] Those are the things that you you really want to do
[07:52:45] Yeah, it's very good like this do like a much much the way to keep real life, which I'm happy about
[07:52:50] I think after the same game one some people might just go all they shouldn't take it didn't work
[07:52:54] but there's a lot of different like layers behind it and
[07:52:57] and uh
[07:52:59] I was thinking about Oracle to dispel but they go for the lightbulb
[07:53:04] okay
[07:53:05] is this a support?
[07:53:07] okay no, it's a buff lane
[07:53:10] buff lane, lago
[07:53:12] so you have a lot of routes
[07:53:15] it can be anything special that's like
[07:53:17] yep, that's true
[07:53:19] that's what they picked it
[07:53:21] that's why I called it
[07:53:23] of course bouncing your bonus from Alchemista
[07:53:25] Mr. Yeah makes total sense. Yeah. No, that is oh my god. That's motion in the high ground the tonic stands. Yeah crazy
[07:53:33] You know it's
[07:53:34] blue blue that bold bay blitz card love word
[07:53:39] Still does base damage. Of course it scales based on the levels
[07:53:43] You didn't need to get to a level 18 to get like the big damage that is kind of like a nerf to the hero
[07:53:47] It's a classic 18th puck, 18th pick puck, even though there's a lion here that's not
[07:53:56] caring.
[07:53:57] He doesn't care at all.
[07:53:59] And Aurora is just playing on so much kiting, right?
[07:54:02] It's like when Tundra walks in with their arrows, with the out with the lago, kind
[07:54:06] of like getting to the center of the fight, Aurora's best job is to like disengage from
[07:54:10] the area, make them waste like their initial round of stun, their kind of blinks,
[07:54:15] And then they'll pounce on them right with the coils, the nuisance of the brewmaster
[07:54:20] split.
[07:54:21] I'm kind of excited, I think both teams are going to reveal the showcase, their team fighting
[07:54:26] in this game.
[07:54:27] They have all the tools we have to do it.
[07:54:29] But it does show so much confidence, like to pick up into Lyon.
[07:54:33] Let me ask you, Robson, are you going to buy eggs for your Lago in this game?
[07:54:37] But it doesn't go down, yeah?
[07:54:42] That's a tough question.
[07:54:45] It doesn't give the damage anymore.
[07:54:46] You can strum two songs.
[07:54:50] I'm honestly maybe even leaning no.
[07:54:56] If it was old Lago, I'd be screaming, please give it to him as quick as possible, but
[07:55:00] maybe not.
[07:55:03] Do you want to see the Alps give a lago an axe?
[07:55:08] Like the same pace as like the pango?
[07:55:11] Are we comparing it to the paces game 2?
[07:55:14] Or game 1 sorry.
[07:55:16] It depends on that mid laner doesn't it?
[07:55:18] Like if they get a really good axe mid laner then...
[07:55:20] Yeah you probably don't really care.
[07:55:27] I mean how do you feel about Marsy here?
[07:55:29] Or do you think they can still pick it as a lago character?
[07:55:32] They just run at them.
[07:55:34] Yeah, 100%. I can see that.
[07:55:36] You're a hero that likes to buy MKB down the line.
[07:55:40] You can then of course get your BKB early to be able to brush off the fight that Tundra has.
[07:55:46] You then can get Daedalus, MKB, big right kick items to rip through all of Alps timings.
[07:55:51] You have enough kill and map progression.
[07:55:53] So yeah, I honestly wouldn't be opposed to it.
[07:55:57] Yeah, I kind of like either one.
[07:55:59] I don't have Marcy, Cleans, I wonder if I can actually just re-pull them with physical damage and move around the map.
[07:56:07] Is SF completely gone? Do we not pick that hero anymore?
[07:56:11] I have no idea.
[07:56:14] Is it still here?
[07:56:15] Yeah.
[07:56:16] Is it truly like Dumpster right now?
[07:56:18] The max fold is now capped to 20 instead of 26.
[07:56:22] And then...
[07:56:23] I am now reading the rest because I haven't remembered. I've not seen Shadafine, so I've
[07:56:28] not reminded myself on the Shadafine changes and I'm quickly rereading it to make sure I've
[07:56:32] not missed something.
[07:56:33] He lost a lot of damage, like damage points, stories to kill.
[07:56:36] Ah, yeah, it's based on level, so yeah, you can't just get max Necromaster in and
[07:56:43] you've got 4 point plus all right now it's like based on your level. Yeah, I think
[07:56:46] Shadafine just is a bit slower to get into the game due to Necromaster being level
[07:56:50] And also Cap to 20 souls and 10 to 20 sets like I said so yeah, it's a weird one.
[07:56:57] Like Luna, he really likes Luna.
[07:57:00] That means really really strong in the early stages and teamfights.
[07:57:03] If you can stand up for like a coil with the eclipse.
[07:57:09] Farms really quickly.
[07:57:10] Does the change to the medium camps actually benefit this hero a lot?
[07:57:15] Is that why he's picking this hero so much?
[07:57:17] I was wondering, yeah, I always thought it would be bad because lane is pretty good at farming ancients relatively quickly, but I guess you can farm neutral camps, which aren't ancients even quicker, so.
[07:57:28] Yeah, the whole farm ancients thing is kind of like a weird thing in the last patch, because some heroes would do it, but it's more like when the lane is fully broke down and you're farming.
[07:57:37] farming. The ability to farm it passively. When the lane is shoved out, you don't have
[07:57:42] like two options of what to farm behind your tower. So a difficult name isn't really that
[07:57:46] punishing for the mooners and stuff. Yeah. And in a normal game, it's going to be the
[07:57:51] off lane of farming that anyway, not your, not your carry. So, uh, yeah, that become
[07:57:55] a bit of a thing. But, uh, final pick, it's going to be the BZM San King to round off
[07:58:01] Tundra Esports draft. So that gives them just about everything like the lago doesn't,
[07:58:05] you know, in terms of AOE stun, in terms of a little bit more sort of mobility in these fights,
[07:58:10] uh, well, at least in terms of catching. So, yeah, they'll, uh, they'll be able to be pretty happy with that, I think.
[07:58:17] They would receive the axe. Is that the reason?
[07:58:19] There we go. We got that. All right, it's okay. We did. As much as we've made in the end, there's quite a lot.
[07:58:26] 33, and I think Tundra always will try to think about concepts, right?
[07:58:30] like, I'm not sure how to
[07:58:34] damage. Not to his old right
[07:58:36] now blocked behind levels
[07:58:38] rather than just passively be
[07:58:39] one Nagan is. Croak of genius
[07:58:41] kind of went untouched, right?
[07:58:43] If you put a croak. On a
[07:58:46] sinking who also potentially
[07:58:47] gets an act like it is a lot
[07:58:49] of combinations to play and
[07:58:51] like croak on lion again is
[07:58:52] quite a cool thing. So if you
[07:58:54] try and to like take a step
[07:58:55] back from all the chaos of
[07:58:57] a patch change. Largo with
[07:58:57] croak of genius. He's got
[07:58:59] some little elements to play
[07:59:00] understanding of them. Yeah, if you look at the 10 heroes based on the heroes, I feel
[07:59:06] like it's the play of us like most of the time.
[07:59:10] Tundra's draft looks like it's like the one that you've put down on like a playbook, you
[07:59:14] know, you've rolled the heroes down, you're trying to convince your team to try it one
[07:59:17] time. Like this kind of feels like the lineup. You know, it's like, guys, guys, this
[07:59:19] will work. Okay. Because he's gonna do this and then it will come to that. And
[07:59:22] then when the fight is perfect, we'll win the fight. But of course, they have
[07:59:26] so many ways to just like poke and displace Tundra through like aggressive positioning like make
[07:59:31] any retreat so then you're not in good formation that you know I think Aurora are gonna be in a
[07:59:35] good position. I'm just hoping that this game gets to a point where we I want to see Tundra's idea
[07:59:41] come to life in like one fight. That's all I want to see. It's gonna take a long time the Robson.
[07:59:47] They need so much gold they use. It's shopping right as to her right? If they don't do well
[07:59:53] in the beginning five minutes. I don't know if they're gonna be able to get the time to get to
[07:59:58] where they want with their heroes. It's gonna be tough, you know. So again, you know, the lane is
[08:00:01] gonna be really crucial whether they can actually hold their ground and farm and get to the items
[08:00:06] they need. Yeah, I don't know. This seems like a tough early game for Tundra. If they can get
[08:00:11] through it, then they certainly might be able to out teamfight Aurora Gaming here. Let's
[08:00:16] find out. It is time for the deciding match, game number three between Tundra and Aurora
[08:00:22] with lyrical entrance starting right now.
[08:00:27] Thank you so much Nomad, and as we head down into the river,
[08:00:30] you can see the standoff already beginning as all lads get fed.
[08:00:38] You think they'd be able to see each other across the river,
[08:00:40] but that's not that far, right?
[08:00:41] You would think. The fog of war is very dense and thick.
[08:00:45] Like a gray morning here, and in the harbor of Halifax.
[08:00:49] Also, we need a foghorn mid.
[08:00:52] ball corn like corn. That's right. That was a frog kicking.
[08:00:55] Oh, you're right. It was. Yeah. WB. You're thinking of the guy with the top hat.
[08:01:00] Yeah, exactly.
[08:01:02] Uh, Lyric. Oh, I'm a little worried. Um, fair for T gov and winter. I'm worried.
[08:01:10] I think they might have amnesia because am I crazy? Or did Aurora not have this exact
[08:01:13] game one draft and they did nothing for 20 minutes? They're acting like this game's
[08:01:18] over and what have they woken up?
[08:01:21] But San King versus Pango, maybe the Difference Maker.
[08:01:26] Do you think that that's enough of a Difference Maker?
[08:01:28] I don't know. They have like the exact same spirit of heroes and Aurora did nothing.
[08:01:32] They slept 20 minutes. They're worried about them like rolling over the game
[08:01:36] by the roll over in their graves.
[08:01:38] They did nothing game one.
[08:01:39] Okay. Now, that's not necessarily 100% true.
[08:01:40] They do have a little bit more active support on the hood making the Jikiro
[08:01:44] and maybe that'll be the difference.
[08:01:45] But Aurora did not prove they could make this draft working game one of the series.
[08:01:50] They need to prove it in this one.
[08:01:51] Well, we'll see if they can do just that.
[08:01:53] We'll see if they've learned from their previous mistakes.
[08:01:57] I got to say for me, the thing that I'm most curious to see
[08:02:00] is this matchup of not mid the mid of BZM versus Makoto,
[08:02:05] but Makoto versus Whitemon.
[08:02:07] How does that matchup go?
[08:02:08] The lion versus the puck, the panel
[08:02:10] was talking about it already, the audacity,
[08:02:13] the temerity to go on in and take the puck into the lion
[08:02:18] to see if it pays off for him.
[08:02:19] Yeah, I mean, they knew it, right?
[08:02:21] When they pick the line, they're saying they want Puck.
[08:02:23] Like, we were sitting here like they're going to pick Puck.
[08:02:25] Like, it's Makoto, and he's going to have the opportunity
[08:02:28] because all the Spirit Heroes weren't being banned at the time.
[08:02:29] It's 3-3.
[08:02:31] He's going down here.
[08:02:33] Just doesn't want to live anymore, you know?
[08:02:35] That's fine.
[08:02:36] Sometimes that happens to us.
[08:02:37] All right.
[08:02:38] I'm going to get the kill.
[08:02:39] I need to test something.
[08:02:40] Tiga, put a thumbs up if you're listening right now
[08:02:42] to the cast.
[08:02:43] Do you think he actually listens?
[08:02:45] Because I don't think he does.
[08:02:46] They don't get to see it at home.
[08:02:48] He's not going to do it.
[08:02:49] No, he's not.
[08:02:50] So I can roast their, just their, their analysis. That's good.
[08:02:54] Cause I was surprised he didn't immediately message me with something like
[08:02:58] Yeah, no thumbs up. These, they're not listening to my panel.
[08:03:01] You know, I listened to all their analysis all through the draft.
[08:03:04] Wanted to be what they're talking about.
[08:03:07] And they don't come and listen to the cast kind of really think about it.
[08:03:10] This is just the Trent moment to air grievances.
[08:03:13] Apparently they don't ask Lyrical. I mean, he wants to talk to winter
[08:03:17] his friend, but whether you're talking about after the game,
[08:03:19] Well, that kind of makes a little bit of sense.
[08:03:21] Yeah, that makes sense completely, 100%.
[08:03:23] All right, we can talk about giving you guys a look.
[08:03:25] I was just going to let you keep going.
[08:03:28] I don't know, it was worth it.
[08:03:31] I will say that I feel like this top lane is kind of what
[08:03:35] you would want, game to kill on the Largo,
[08:03:37] making them feel bad, and getting everything.
[08:03:40] Another WS brewmaster as well on the opposite side, which one of his best heroes alongside
[08:03:52] the Mars to be fair.
[08:03:53] You wanted the Mars run back.
[08:03:54] I was kind of down for the Mars run back, but the position they took in the draft, they
[08:03:57] go for the safety brew instead.
[08:04:01] And when we first saw the Alchemist game one, we were also talking about maybe the
[08:04:05] Largo?
[08:04:06] Is it worth it?
[08:04:07] pretty pretty accurate in that one because the sad thing now with the agnems of course we
[08:04:11] guys didn't notice the change the damage is now tied to the bull belly blitz which is
[08:04:16] cool but it means that you don't get damage if you're doing the movement speed and the
[08:04:20] heal which is really what was mega broken about his heroes but like yes if you can't
[08:04:24] do damage while also healing everyone and running stupid fast he's just not going
[08:04:29] to be the OS frog he once was.
[08:04:31] I mean he still might be a little bit let's be real like there's elements of it like
[08:04:35] You can do heal and damage if you need to and then you can just sort of stand your ground
[08:04:39] and then swap back and like try and chase if they try and run away.
[08:04:43] I mean, I think that tales of this hero's relevancy are a little bit overrated at this
[08:04:50] stage.
[08:04:51] I think he's still gonna be quite good.
[08:04:52] Yeah, I'm down.
[08:04:53] I'm down for him.
[08:04:54] Uh, by the way, what's going on BZM here?
[08:04:57] Yeah, I was just doing a little jungling.
[08:04:59] Apparently.
[08:05:00] He's gonna have some creeps coming in here after.
[08:05:03] might miss the flag bear. Now he gets there.
[08:05:06] Nice.
[08:05:09] So well worth it there.
[08:05:10] That's going to put him just a little bit ahead here of Makoto
[08:05:13] in that mid lane, but still just the one kill.
[08:05:20] Of course, they try and battle it out down bottom.
[08:05:24] Whitemon trying to keep them at bay.
[08:05:27] You'll see the pressure being put on.
[08:05:29] Pure also.
[08:05:30] WS decides to go for white mod gets that kill won't be able to get anything back the way it's pure though
[08:05:36] Yeah, I guess the kill first as well. Unfortunately couldn't get off of the fairy fire in time to cool down
[08:05:41] but
[08:05:43] Guess the next fee before he falters
[08:05:46] and
[08:05:48] Okay, I was wondering because I am combined his lags completely out and I am gonna get thrown from the server as some other people might be as well
[08:05:56] Well, perfectly fine. New servers, new patch. That's what you want.
[08:06:02] All our players stayed in, so it's okay. It's just you, buddy. And there goes Pierre.
[08:06:06] All right. Well, maybe, you know, he's...
[08:06:10] Yeah, I was wondering, because I was looking at my screen, and then I saw that, like, there
[08:06:18] were two heroes just standing still, and then I saw them moving on the P jam, and
[08:06:22] I was like, that's not right.
[08:06:23] No, that's not how it works, is it?
[08:06:26] No.
[08:06:28] But yeah, a quick respawn into here, hopefully,
[08:06:32] for the Alchemist.
[08:06:37] And early movements that we might end up seeing,
[08:06:40] I feel like there's a chance with, you know,
[08:06:43] Hood Wayne has me on that.
[08:06:45] Where's Pierce doing his own tech here?
[08:06:47] What the hell?
[08:06:48] He's diving under the desk.
[08:06:50] Good work there.
[08:06:51] Dude, that reminds me of like, I remember, I think it was like the Nanjing tournament
[08:06:58] or something like that.
[08:06:59] There's like some pictures of LD down on the ground, like taping down chords across the
[08:07:06] bottom of the floor and like trying to fix it all.
[08:07:09] We got to go back to that area.
[08:07:10] Get these players on their own tech services.
[08:07:13] That was, well, I guess that was totally not the same for me.
[08:07:18] Who knows?
[08:07:19] Maybe it was.
[08:07:20] Maybe it wasn't.
[08:07:21] sure. Oh, no. Where they had daisy chained so many extension cords together that the wire next to
[08:07:27] what I think it was, I want to say it was dendies. Someone's PC just like sparked on fire because
[08:07:33] it's such a big daisy chain. There was a fire on the cables. So, Pyrrhy, he's getting down there
[08:07:38] to make sure that doesn't happen. That's right. Obviously. We've come far in the old
[08:07:45] Dota sphere in terms of tech capabilities.
[08:07:47] It was probably connected as you can see.
[08:07:50] Yes.
[08:07:51] We're back in here.
[08:07:54] Unfortunately, does this look like they're going to be able to get that small camp pull-in
[08:07:58] right there?
[08:07:59] Which would have been lovely for them.
[08:08:03] But Whitemon delivers the salve and they are good to go again.
[08:08:09] Oh, Murat trying to farm up a nice lane.
[08:08:13] This is smart.
[08:08:14] We're talking
[08:08:16] And if you're gonna stack the small camp for your fat alchemist
[08:08:19] Like can I get some war blocks back behind his tier one while we're at it cuz like we all know where he's going
[08:08:24] He got him both
[08:08:26] Maybe she's just gonna do that to the other camps too and we won't middle spiting top is fighting. I thought getting low
[08:08:32] Oh
[08:08:33] And it's enough like mom with the movement through finds the finish kaiori in trouble
[08:08:39] And does get some burn damage back the other direction, but we'll be able to survive through this that looks like
[08:08:45] That's such an interesting aspect because white mod the fact that the alchemist is retreating to the jungle
[08:08:49] It opens up that twin gate for white and now that poke area and all the earth might get a freebie
[08:08:54] Yeah, can they come in and clean up with nightfall? They will they'll get one under Ari at least but
[08:09:00] showing the power of this here and
[08:09:03] Nightfall still on the chase down finds 33 thinks better of it though
[08:09:09] I mean am I crazy that we can't just have a hoodwing come down here and blockies off
[08:09:13] of this entry though?
[08:09:14] Like is that not so worth it versus this Alchemist?
[08:09:18] Has no one told them where all his gold is coming from?
[08:09:20] I mean, they're not wrong.
[08:09:23] Like you're a sneaky little scurry fella.
[08:09:27] Okay, alright, back in the way, BZM, Whitemon, burning through some raindrops and unfortunately
[08:09:34] they are going to get unlucky as it's an illusion room down bottom for Makoto.
[08:09:40] So all that rotation mid, not turning into anything objective-wise for them.
[08:09:47] So they're going to try and go into Nightfall here.
[08:09:52] Good ward placed down in the lane is going to scout all of Nightfall's movement.
[08:09:58] I'm just going to use it to steal away one of these creeps by thinking about going
[08:10:02] on Nightfall again.
[08:10:03] Aurora, nope.
[08:10:05] Try to get pure.
[08:10:07] Low.
[08:10:09] And Mira, not going to be able to chase him down.
[08:10:11] It looks like.
[08:10:15] Ah, but less.
[08:10:17] And less.
[08:10:19] Imagine.
[08:10:21] Wait, you know what, almost.
[08:10:23] Yeah.
[08:10:25] I'll keep stacking again.
[08:10:27] Freakin' pure.
[08:10:29] Okay, well, understanding what Pure wants to do is just going to have to back all the
[08:10:37] way to the very deep inside jungle area there to farm up, and playing with the Ascense Spray,
[08:10:44] hoping to get level 6 off of these.
[08:10:46] It's actually a little bit close.
[08:10:48] Does he get level 6 and then can he pop his ulti as he's finished?
[08:10:54] Okay, alright, he's good.
[08:10:56] It would be nice to get that kill as Makoto's curry goes down to Ari just randomly in the
[08:11:02] middle lane.
[08:11:03] At this point, we might as well just be picking support Alch and throwing a Tidehunter down
[08:11:06] here or something.
[08:11:07] Give him a couple levels, set him on its way, and just plunk someone else down in the
[08:11:13] lane.
[08:11:17] Keeping up with a Nightfall Luna that is getting everything she wants, BZM goes forward,
[08:11:24] finds Gaeori, Makoto there trying to turn this around to get the coil, a good Bushwack
[08:11:28] Gaeori living but eventually is going to be brought down dead. BZM will be the one hit
[08:11:34] by the hurl boulder. Getting some separation and Mir is still on the hunt here for the
[08:11:40] Sand King but he burrows strikes away. Has a dust so wants to keep the hunt going.
[08:11:45] War dust bottom. Let's see where he's going. Oh he went short! No! Oh that's frustrating.
[08:11:52] Oh, could have wasted so much of his time, of course he got the kill there as well, but
[08:11:58] he's out.
[08:12:00] Well, these little plays all in service of Alchemist farming.
[08:12:08] Sure, he's definitely going to keep doing that.
[08:12:14] Well, Whitemon stacks up the ancients here, can go either to the same king or to the
[08:12:19] Alcs to be honest.
[08:12:20] either way. Alright, well, compared to game one, you know, Makoto was on the void spirit,
[08:12:32] he's now on the pump. A little bit easier to make these big plays happen is they are
[08:12:34] going to lose Mira, Eir, oh, I spoke, maybe did you hear the shards? Oh, he actually
[08:12:41] juked that. That was thick. Alright, hit him with the voice line, well done. Very
[08:12:47] Very nice. And now, Pure, they're gonna block out the camps. It does come a little bit later.
[08:12:53] And... Perry deciding to focus down the tower now.
[08:12:59] Well, Makoto farms up.
[08:13:03] On that fall, feeling similar pressure off top though. We're treating all the way back as BGM and R here just sitting on the tower.
[08:13:11] And 3-3-4age is in the jungle for the Ironwood nut.
[08:13:14] Yeah. Got to get it.
[08:13:17] Don't think they're going to come and defend this tier one tower up top though.
[08:13:21] In case you guys were wondering, the use, it's actually not gobble on the Iron Widow.
[08:13:25] It is munch.
[08:13:26] Munch.
[08:13:27] You munch the Iron Widow.
[08:13:28] Very good to know.
[08:13:29] Good to know.
[08:13:30] Always important.
[08:13:33] Mira finds Whitemon, backs out of there.
[08:13:37] This is a three or four stack on Ancient and Hard Camp.
[08:13:41] As Makoto steps forward towards Pure Pure feeling a little bit uncomfortable with his position.
[08:13:46] I suppose there's this deep ward and yeah, they find and kill Lightmon.
[08:13:51] BZM tries to connect but Mira gets some separation here.
[08:13:56] And as they bring in the puck for Makoto, the snowball in, it's enough.
[08:14:00] But it is going to still be able to find that kill on the Mira.
[08:14:04] The chase down BZM in trouble and Makoto with the double kill and damage.
[08:14:08] doing what's necessary. Mira is doing so much work this game, dodging these hits, making
[08:14:13] these plays underneath the tower, and then the use of the Falec shield there to survive
[08:14:19] for so long versus the S-Gap in this first strike. Easy pressure with the catapults,
[08:14:24] and Aurora, they are finding the timing that they missed in game one. This is looking
[08:14:27] so much better than previous, and that's part of it is just, I think, the talk and
[08:14:31] just the ease that you have with just Quail. Someone is going to die compared to
[08:14:35] the foister, it feels like you need just like a little bit more health and you don't
[08:14:38] have that same certainty of the engagement as you do with Dream Coil.
[08:14:41] Right.
[08:14:42] Well, and now Pyrr is, you know, having to walk back, some of those camps getting blocked
[08:14:47] out by him and they're just trying to continue to shut down these areas of the map and make
[08:14:53] life harder for Tundra, if at all possible.
[08:14:57] I think I'm getting a little bit of a pack of loss, not sure if the players will
[08:15:04] be or not, but could be something so far at least. Okay, that's good. So hopefully it's not the server.
[08:15:13] Actually three, of course, the what the changes here new build soaring into the yasha, not rushing
[08:15:19] the agonims. So just going to try and utilize that bullbully blitz to its most potential.
[08:15:25] What did I say? Sorry? Yeah, you said yasha. It's not gonna be yasha. That would be pretty
[08:15:30] cool. That would be really weird. We're going to start with the Kaif. And the panel is measuring
[08:15:37] the Krovetjewels. That is a massive spell, so let's go somehow untouched, praise the frog.
[08:15:43] And you let me back with on himself and stanking going to be really crucial.
[08:15:47] Unleveled right now too though. 33 struggling for the farm has really been shut down here
[08:15:54] along with the same king. They're both not able to get what they wanted out of the beginning of this.
[08:16:00] Well, BZM spent so much time going for kills that just either missed or ended up with him dying.
[08:16:06] Yeah.
[08:16:10] Well, the timing that we're likely going to see is going to be again this Brewmaster,
[08:16:15] you know, Aghanem Skector getting picked up as battling over the camp with the tusk.
[08:16:21] This is really interesting. So WS is not farming this camp down here
[08:16:26] And he continuously is pulling it into the hard camp and then like taking the whole thing out
[08:16:31] I have an outlook at all right. He's like, I gotta make sure I stay around for this. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's a big deal
[08:16:37] So thanks for the help nice but now look look at this case
[08:16:41] They get the coil on to stand King the coil ends up breaking BGM down to the low ground
[08:16:46] Whitemon thinks about going forward.
[08:16:47] The heck's on the Makoto, but there isn't any follow-up.
[08:16:50] MacroPyre doing some work, but Whitemon eventually going to fall.
[08:16:54] Can they chase anymore?
[08:16:56] Ari, snowball off to the side, near looking for a chase.
[08:17:00] With a nightfall in the area, maybe they can quite find him.
[08:17:04] Lucid beam, that'll stop any extra aggression.
[08:17:07] She's bringing in big numbers here to nightfall.
[08:17:10] I mean, even joining.
[08:17:16] The gap though, still staying relatively close between pure and night falls.
[08:17:21] He moves in towards this radiance.
[08:17:23] Very close to getting it, just to finish up these mud golems, and it'll have it with ease on the alchemist.
[08:17:27] So that might be the chance for him to get back into this game with the blink on the stank.
[08:17:31] You gotta imagine they're gonna be smoking out.
[08:17:33] It is another one of these games too for Aurora though, where they don't have that aura builder to try and get towards the pipe.
[08:17:41] And with both Largo, you know, Ulti coming in with Sand King with Radiant
[08:17:48] There's a ton of magic damage that could become a pretty serious issue
[08:17:52] And plus the sustain of just having a Largo as well
[08:17:54] Like there's not really anything to match on the side of Aurora that you're gonna get here
[08:17:57] Now that being said actually look what Mira's got queued up a pipe. Okay
[08:18:02] Mira is thinking ahead. I mean might have to sell it for a glan instantly switches to a four-staff
[08:18:07] All right. I think they realize they're not going to get it quickly enough. No, long ways away
[08:18:15] Maybe brew will get it as the next item after aggs. I'm not sure but that this is a one thing to watch for here is
[08:18:22] How much dammar tons how much damage are tundra gonna be able to do?
[08:18:26] pre pipe
[08:18:29] That bottom camp is still blocked by the way massive value. Yeah
[08:18:32] Also, he is queuing up the Ags on pure. Now they jump, find Whitemon, Whitemon dead.
[08:18:40] No coil. Easy bushwhack there with the Hell of a Ward.
[08:18:46] Much more considering just denying, because they did sentry it.
[08:18:52] He's hoping someone else can help him score. They just go for a sent kill.
[08:18:54] Oh, they thought about it. Pure, not opting to make that play.
[08:19:00] Now the ice path connects. They're moving in knife holes there with the lucent beam. No TP for you. Pure in trouble
[08:19:07] And that kill is huge. You're stunned to save yourself. End up falling
[08:19:13] As Ari
[08:19:15] Realizing the danger is gonna head back there to this weird area that I have not seen before. Those trees paths are cool
[08:19:21] Yeah, we you know we had to move the torment around a little bit
[08:19:24] So they left the ice little hedge maze in there for you
[08:19:30] Big kill, though. That one hurts for pure.
[08:19:36] Alright, so, better than game one. Actually getting pressure.
[08:19:40] Slaying more aggressive with the lineup that they have.
[08:19:42] All of the stuff here from Aurora, they have to keep it rolling, though.
[08:19:46] And they're moving in WSW. Almost at his peak. He's still close to level 12. Still close to Agnes.
[08:19:50] But he looks like he's going down.
[08:19:52] They're changing the stuns. I don't know. They have enough. Yes!
[08:19:56] Big kill.
[08:19:58] Yeah, can't get a big bushwhack or something to maybe delay it, but the damage was just too much at that point.
[08:20:04] Yeah.
[08:20:07] Well, now they go in again. PCM.
[08:20:09] Misses.
[08:20:11] Terastically, and now a couple more hits.
[08:20:14] He's got the creeps.
[08:20:15] He just hit the creeps.
[08:20:17] Oh yeah, sure.
[08:20:18] PCM doesn't miss. He burrows exactly where he means to.
[08:20:22] Oh, it doesn't have an ulti to get down to the low ground here.
[08:20:25] Yeah.
[08:20:26] Oh, there we go. I can get anywhere.
[08:20:28] They get their man, but now, he comes up with a coil on a 3 and knife, but walking forward.
[08:20:35] That's one dead.
[08:20:36] Can they get another?
[08:20:37] 33 trying to back out.
[08:20:38] He's blitzing his way out of here and it's hard to chase him down.
[08:20:42] Ari gets up to the high ground.
[08:20:43] Makoto is going to be able to find him.
[08:20:46] So they will lose just the two supports for a coil and how bad that's looked.
[08:20:51] I think you're going to be okay losing them there.
[08:20:54] Yeah.
[08:20:55] Casted puck running at a bunch of heroes that just had a pretty poor engagement. Yeah, I think you're you're pretty fortunate in that case
[08:21:01] But obviously still good news here for Aurora
[08:21:05] By 3 3, I mean, yeah, he was still pretty damn fast
[08:21:12] WS come into steel ancients now and it looks like Aurora gonna make the move to take down
[08:21:18] This tier one tower on the top side of the map and there's level 12 as well. So Pete Brumaster achieved
[08:21:24] Yeah, and they cannot fight them right now like if the split gets off
[08:21:28] It's just it's not a fair fight at all. Here's Ari under the tower
[08:21:34] Easy kill
[08:21:37] Well pure he needs to finish this acts as soon as possible
[08:21:42] The thing is I am wondering how strong it's gonna be like if you get acts on
[08:21:49] 33 and you go in and fight with the radiance like do they have enough damage at that point to actually
[08:21:54] like, stand up to Aurora's group up potential?
[08:22:00] I don't know. I'm curious to see how, how well this is going to work.
[08:22:05] And especially with who he gives the X to, I assume it's going to be BGM.
[08:22:08] And then he goes BKB, right?
[08:22:10] You don't think it's 33?
[08:22:12] I don't think so. I mean, maybe I feel like going BKB is better, though.
[08:22:16] OK. Like, I feel like, I don't know, but like he's going for the full
[08:22:20] So presumably if that was the case, like they wouldn't have done it in this fashion, right?
[08:22:25] I think it's going to be like going for a refund or something. So it must be for 3-3
[08:22:31] Maybe it's gonna be lion
[08:22:37] Okay only a 3000 gold lead but again with an alchemist this feels a little bit sketchy
[08:22:42] Pure is farming as fast as he can and with these golems is gonna be close to the axe
[08:22:48] but not quite there. On the other side for Aurora there is still no pipe and it
[08:22:54] doesn't look like there's going to be one anytime soon either. Brewmaster going
[08:22:58] for a blink dagger next. Okay, make sure you get the most out of his splits.
[08:23:05] Sure. And the croak, three points in it now, 433. That in combination with the
[08:23:15] BGM axe could be quite strong. Yeah, plus the zone axe coming out. So it's it's a lot happening
[08:23:23] And the exit is done now so pure can't send that largo's way
[08:23:26] Once it arrives on the courier
[08:23:31] But tormenter Aurora
[08:23:35] Have they figured out how to do it oh god
[08:23:41] My god, not quite
[08:23:45] What are you doing?
[08:23:47] It's hard out there, you know.
[08:23:49] Oh, jeez.
[08:23:51] Alright.
[08:23:52] Alright, he's got it. 33.
[08:23:54] Now they're 400 gold away, 450 away for BZM to also have his own.
[08:23:59] And this is going to be a large time here for the Rainy.
[08:24:02] But what are we looking at for the Dire?
[08:24:03] Aeon disc first, Makoto after all.
[08:24:05] I shouldn't say first.
[08:24:06] But you know, next big item for Makoto, after you're blinking your Witchblade,
[08:24:09] he's going for a really early Aeon disc.
[08:24:11] trying to play into the lion and follow stuns that way, fair enough.
[08:24:16] I mean, this is a lion who's going glimmer. Like, this is not a glink-first lion either.
[08:24:19] Yep.
[08:24:20] So it kind of feels like a bit of an overcommitment here.
[08:24:25] Well, I think that you were still in this, like, slightly weird situation too, where Tundra, like,
[08:24:30] hypothetically would want to be going right now, but they're, what, 1200 gold away from BKB on Largo,
[08:24:36] and you're 300 away from AGS on BZM.
[08:24:40] So if they can wait for the 33 BKB and take the fight right then that feels insanely strong to me
[08:24:48] But we'll see feels so much like game one though where I'm watching a brewmaster who hit that level 12 timing
[08:24:55] And they never find anything to do with it. Yes, that's true
[08:25:01] Three it's hilarious
[08:25:03] That's great
[08:25:05] Will it matter though? I mean if you stick back during this timing and you're not taking advantage of it
[08:25:11] It might not matter that you to be fair. They are farming waves more which is partially why it's back back crazy
[08:25:17] Of course, but that is just an absurd like that is the alchemist like he is just creating gold out of nothing
[08:25:23] That is what grievous freak does
[08:25:26] And the stacks ate him in that
[08:25:30] Sure
[08:25:31] They were setting up on him a little bit down bottom, but
[08:25:34] won't be able to chase him down here. Now the TP picks up the varking rune for
[08:25:42] Makoto and Whitemon spots Nightfall all alone at the glimmer cape. Oh buddy, oh
[08:25:51] this could be bad. If they can get there in time, the rest of the heroes
[08:25:55] jump forward, punch, onto Nightfall. Now they find Whitemon though. The hex is
[08:26:00] there for the follow-up. Pure takes down one, can they take down another?
[08:26:03] The finger help here for nightfall figures that this out
[08:26:07] Oh
[08:26:09] Too late lyrical. There's there's a split a book. He's WS wants to go
[08:26:13] All right, they decide to find what that's already onto white mods the main control for puff now Bruce what finds BZM
[08:26:20] Two down can they get more she were teepees away WS will have the lift up if they want it
[08:26:26] That's the change right there for Ari and well Ari under fire
[08:26:31] They know that 33 is over here. Maybe they don't. He's hiding up there. He's good. He did see him. He did see him
[08:26:38] He like micro great past them. I think they said they couldn't commit into him. It's what it looks like at least
[08:26:45] but
[08:26:46] Your danger they lose the Luna. Wait, wait, wait. He bought another eggs over BKB
[08:26:54] Wait, what's the way? Oh wait, wait, wait. Why is he's gonna give it to Stan King and then refund them?
[08:27:00] I guess to give him a BKB
[08:27:03] Whoa
[08:27:05] That's high work
[08:27:07] Well, then what what?
[08:27:09] Yeah, okay. All right. Sure. Why not?
[08:27:12] So now I
[08:27:15] Mean there it is. That's big a bonus attack speed as well as the gold from it
[08:27:21] We shall want to to these are two very
[08:27:23] You take the crowd of juniors doing some good damage Makoto tries to get out and near the will as well
[08:27:30] Now there's the silence gets down to the low ground. We'll have another burst right in a moment
[08:27:35] WS gets the blink out too. They can't find a target. They're still going
[08:27:39] I mean 33 is not stopping for anything right now. He gets the lick from downtown
[08:27:47] Takes out the hoodwink
[08:27:51] All right, well
[08:27:53] If the pango, I don't know, we might see pango again.
[08:27:57] I think the Alchemist might be coming, guys.
[08:28:00] Yeah.
[08:28:01] There might be more good Cobblers here.
[08:28:04] Very well done here so far.
[08:28:06] I mean, Ari's still chasing K.O.R.E. here.
[08:28:09] Teammates are coming.
[08:28:10] Knocked him out of the damage of Breeding Ari, I don't think.
[08:28:13] Ooh, yeah.
[08:28:14] He's just barely up, and with the heals coming from 33,
[08:28:19] it's enough to keep him alive.
[08:28:20] I
[08:28:22] Want to see a pipe man. WS you've got this 1800 gold right now
[08:28:27] It's all magic damage coming in like nothing. Do you see how long the stomach was?
[08:28:37] Me when the popper falls in my shirt, that's what I look like
[08:28:44] Yeah, just killing it up WS is this is what they need the power of the pipe. Yeah
[08:28:50] too much damage otherwise. I mean part of the depression of this draft is seeing your
[08:28:57] puck go A on disc third. It does not inspire confidence, you know. Yeah. But it feels like
[08:29:03] he just kind of has to. And then the fact that your puck is getting A on disc while the
[08:29:07] enemy is being fed these like BKBs into agonim timings is not a great feeling. Cause it's
[08:29:14] basically saying I'm going to go down a level in a hope that I can enable my Luna
[08:29:20] And they're trying to do the same thing they did with the gyrocopter last game with this Luna
[08:29:24] But nightfall is
[08:29:25] He's gonna need that one big fight and they managed to find a couple times with the gyrocopter
[08:29:29] They gotta try to find it one more time here at this Luna
[08:29:31] They kind of need to dodge until bkb's though too, right?
[08:29:35] And there it is the burrow strike finds that he left
[08:29:38] Death done
[08:29:39] Nightfall has bkb coming out delivered, but the hex is already there the chance for a turnaround is gonna come though
[08:29:45] Right now coil the lion
[08:29:47] They turn to fight and clips out 33 has 3200 HP. They pop the ulti now, but his BKB is already used.
[08:29:57] They need this.
[08:29:58] They can't wipe on, but maybe more.
[08:30:00] Maybe an opportunity.
[08:30:02] R8, the others support. It's not good enough.
[08:30:05] That's a buyback on the brew, further delaying the pipe.
[08:30:11] Well, you know, that really makes it a serious pipe dream, doesn't it?
[08:30:13] Oh, God.
[08:30:15] Am I right?
[08:30:15] Terrible.
[08:30:17] terrible but also factually correct at the very least it will secure the roast for
[08:30:22] them so they'll get something that's really the purchase price that they're
[08:30:26] getting okay that this frog is fat he's now moving in towards the oh the new
[08:30:33] veil that way kind of interesting Makoto now there with pure see in pretty
[08:30:39] far BZM they popped us he just hides behind the tree don't move if you
[08:30:46] don't move they won't see you like a t-rex okay so it does not secure them
[08:30:51] the Roche it gives them an outkill instead and the borough strike is there
[08:30:55] force have to try and get away this isn't their real carry right now this
[08:30:59] alchemist though it's 33 and BZM I think they get in and take them away okay so
[08:31:07] So, Nouvelle, on Largo, that's Hyde.
[08:31:13] Yeah, that's pretty awesome.
[08:31:17] Nightfall, found, BKB in 7, needs a little bit longer.
[08:31:22] WS moves in, the hex is there.
[08:31:25] But, as they try and retreat away, can they get away from Makoto?
[08:31:30] Does he want to go in? They have the coil.
[08:31:32] Now the burrow strike off the mark ice path down finds one
[08:31:36] Koto is going to orb away
[08:31:40] As the battle for the Roche continues on it's getting messy though. Listen white mon has been chained down guys
[08:31:47] All right, we've seen the performance he said over the past couple years. All right. He's looking like this incredible position five player
[08:31:52] What's he playing?
[08:31:54] Chikiro's warlocks. Maybe a disruptor thrown in there now. He has a hero that might get a blank deck
[08:31:59] And he is removing the chains, the weights that have held him back.
[08:32:03] Can you imagine this man with a blink?
[08:32:05] This man blinked while just walking by trees, hiding himself.
[08:32:08] Look at him disguise, he's become a tree right now.
[08:32:10] And breaks the smoke, they find one, it's right there.
[08:32:13] Alright, that was going to be very quiet.
[08:32:15] They will. Now they jump out. WS gets the ulti,
[08:32:17] Knifeball, BKB runs into everybody,
[08:32:19] but the snowball getting the full duration out.
[08:32:22] Can they take any extra kills here, the silence?
[08:32:25] Knifeball decides it's not good enough.
[08:32:27] enough tries to run away but to no avail, Tundra is there. And if you can't get the value out of
[08:32:36] the BKBs, the game is hard. I gotta give a lot of credit to Pyrrha's Reed and just the team decision
[08:32:44] making in terms of how they spread these items around. I think they're doing an excellent job.
[08:32:49] Like the idea of when to give the eggs, when to go for the BKB to pivot back to give that
[08:32:53] eggs to ensure that the BKB comes out of BZM was so clutched at the exact moment of the
[08:32:57] the game because it just broke the tempo that Aurora were going for and it killed Puck's
[08:33:02] game. Like Makoto is now trying to get into an A on disc, sorry, an Autary Craft A on
[08:33:07] disc, which will feel really good, especially because he's approaching level 20 talent. That
[08:33:10] will be awesome. But his impact is just like he throws coil and that's all he's got.
[08:33:15] And you're just getting these BKBs and they're charging in on Tundra and they're
[08:33:19] so strong.
[08:33:20] Brutal stuff. Particularly for Aurora that was looking so good for a long portion
[08:33:25] in this game, but the timing of Alk causes these issues and I mean, you just, you don't
[08:33:33] have the damage.
[08:33:34] Do not have the damage that they need to break through these heroes.
[08:33:38] Point Mon on the hunt, the blink being delivered, but we'll not catch up to Mira in time.
[08:33:49] Mirra trying to scale things out here instead of from a code on kory they
[08:33:57] want to find a take bzm would be great but I mean it's the tanky feller and
[08:34:01] they go bkb bzm response maybe they can make something happen here though with
[08:34:08] bkb down
[08:34:11] No, maybe not. It's tough. Like you get a couple of items, but yeah, he's still a big kill.
[08:34:20] And there it is. The upgraded Veil now into the Bloodstone Largo. This is grotesque.
[08:34:26] He has 4000 HP. They're not going to die to this thing. That's for thing.
[08:34:31] Right. No, it's not a problem for Tundra. Oh, there's always Frog still in Emote.
[08:34:38] Oh my god, and he has spell slinger.
[08:34:41] Oh my god.
[08:34:42] Oh, this is the hero we were talking about.
[08:34:44] Yeah, who will be the most broken on for sure.
[08:34:47] Like, with no questions.
[08:34:49] Largo.
[08:34:50] That is gross.
[08:34:51] So if you see this stacking up, that's the manor recovering after he casts his spells.
[08:34:57] So the biggest thing that causes issues in this game for Largo is out of mana.
[08:35:01] It's up top.
[08:35:02] They're going to find Kaori and kill the Jekiro.
[08:35:05] So they did manage to take out the Shiba's items from BZM, which is nice, and Curry is
[08:35:13] dead for two minutes.
[08:35:16] I did double check.
[08:35:17] Oh, it's Croc still in.
[08:35:18] We're good.
[08:35:19] May it never die.
[08:35:20] Largova.
[08:35:21] Mira, trying to get out, and will barely escape from that.
[08:35:32] I don't know, man.
[08:35:33] What the hell do you do now, is Aurora?
[08:35:34] This is like, how do you fight this freaking Largo?
[08:35:41] Phew, uh, Big Luna.
[08:35:44] Like Moon.
[08:35:45] Grow very large.
[08:35:47] Okay.
[08:35:48] Crash down on the enemy team.
[08:35:55] It feels very difficult to make that happen.
[08:35:58] Um, especially now that you've got a freaking AC on Alk.
[08:36:02] They're just gonna outlast them in the fight.
[08:36:09] Like, there's no victory this time.
[08:36:11] Yeah. Who do you even kill?
[08:36:14] I don't know, Ari has the Consecrated Raps too, which is a very interesting choice on the support test.
[08:36:20] Makoto, Hax, Finger, and Discout, they purge it immediately.
[08:36:25] Now he's got to run, and Makoto will be able to escape from that one.
[08:36:30] one. Oh pure thought about it now he's just grabbing the free play. I mean hey at least
[08:36:38] he's got an Austrian court to go with his A on this. True. Could be worse. I mean they
[08:36:50] do get to some pretty crazy damage later. You know, Parasma, Aghanim, Spock, hypothetically.
[08:36:55] I mean, you're not wrong.
[08:36:59] But I don't know what at least is.
[08:37:03] Butterfly is like the big one, but I mean, I'm looking at these heroes and I'm thinking,
[08:37:07] like, is Butterfly, like, is that going to be enough?
[08:37:09] But it doesn't feel like it does it.
[08:37:11] Not only is it not enough damage, like, it does, pure could not hit Luna for the
[08:37:15] rest of this game.
[08:37:16] And I think that Tundra still win the game.
[08:37:19] Like, it was, the evasion is going to do nothing.
[08:37:22] Well, there's the frazla, part one.
[08:37:26] Pure, he's thinking how do we break high ground, these things.
[08:37:30] I gotta have some beefy guys who want to jump in.
[08:37:34] I've given them their agonims. I want to have some fun now.
[08:37:37] I want to just hop into this fight and kick things off.
[08:37:39] Why not follow up with the vision he provides?
[08:37:42] He is going for an agonim scepter on Shakiro, and with this greedy enchantment,
[08:37:47] they're going to be able to get to it rather rapidly.
[08:37:49] It is.
[08:37:50] He is dead.
[08:37:51] Yeah, Whitemon's on him.
[08:37:53] Dairy.
[08:37:54] Not long for this world.
[08:37:56] I mean, I thought he was dead, but can you actually punch her down?
[08:37:59] Dude, she didn't even kneel.
[08:38:01] I did not think that was going to be so low.
[08:38:04] That's awesome.
[08:38:05] Seven stacks now of the finger.
[08:38:07] You got a little help from the Largo.
[08:38:10] Yeah, I mean, the timings that I feel like they're looking for at this point on Aurora
[08:38:16] I've got to come so much later into the game the physical damage actually disgusting. That's crazy. Yeah
[08:38:28] Big punches punch mode activated
[08:38:34] Mira
[08:38:36] Gonna try and get out. Oh couldn't get to the high ground actually that actually worked out
[08:38:40] He would have been he would have been good off that if he got into the high ground
[08:38:43] So, you know it almost got something for him brutal
[08:38:50] Look at this dumb ass frog. Hey, hell
[08:38:54] No, he was
[08:38:59] All right for anybody that doesn't know Trent is a Largo spammer, so please boo this man
[08:39:05] This freaking hero. I swear, but look how cute he is
[08:39:09] But look at like Bloodstone is amazing on him and he got this like spell slayer and now you've got
[08:39:16] 3 this will never be me look look look
[08:39:19] Conjure's catalyst with timeless look at how insane this is a hundred spell damage on enemy causes them to overheat and deal damage
[08:39:25] There are allies in a 300 unit radius
[08:39:27] So he's dealing a hundred damage to everybody and then they're overheating dealing damage to each other
[08:39:32] And it's just like a black hole of death around else. Oh, it works on creeps too
[08:39:37] So like when you're sieging high ground and like all the creep like all spawn it did
[08:39:43] This is insane it's way too much damage like pipe isn't going to be enough
[08:39:55] You can't also find me that he has 4400 HP, so I mean
[08:40:00] We got multiple issues happening here like at 36 minutes when you're off later is buying box
[08:40:07] There's been a problem. Look it up quickly all of these creeps die. I can barely keep up with them
[08:40:13] He's having the time of his life right now
[08:40:16] You know everyone's like this game like yeah the Alk farming the Luna farming, but did you expect the Largo farming?
[08:40:23] Watch this creep play this is super slow mo by the way 3,000 frames per second
[08:40:29] This is what they use to capture the speed of of subatomic particles and the collider
[08:40:34] All right, we've got a hex. That's it. That's it. Hex and a boomerang
[08:40:40] Because what's more powerful than a frog a sheep? That's right. It's the only thing I
[08:40:47] Mean, I do they have to catch 33 for this to work. Oh wait. No, thank you
[08:40:53] They dropped everything on that Largo says let's go in
[08:40:57] I think that they could run in right now if they want to.
[08:41:04] Yeah, Largo's going in, he doesn't give a damn!
[08:41:06] He's chasing down Kairi first, but do they have enough damage?
[08:41:09] Well, Nightfall in some trouble.
[08:41:12] They're gonna burrow a strike and find the Luna.
[08:41:14] Largo does not care. They come back in with pure two.
[08:41:18] And two dead looking for more.
[08:41:21] WS hide, run the inevitability of this man with a guitar.
[08:41:25] He's going to lick you. He is gonna chase you. He will kill you if you're not careful and even with I mean look at him
[08:41:33] He's not dying
[08:41:35] He hasn't lost HP this entire engagement
[08:41:38] the chase down continues and
[08:41:40] The only thing that will stop him is the fountain
[08:41:44] My guy does not need 4000 HP. He doesn't lose any anyway like it's purely a deterrent
[08:41:50] They chase, mirror, run, and a finger of death to end it.
[08:42:00] I don't know.
[08:42:06] I think Margo is so good.
[08:42:09] Largo, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[08:42:11] Largo, what?
[08:42:12] Largo, Margo.
[08:42:13] You know, they won this game before Largo, Margo.
[08:42:15] Surely, right?
[08:42:16] You know, the whole BGM, the eggs, pure, the elk.
[08:42:19] The, the, the adaptability that you have with this hero, like passing the agnibs and stuff.
[08:42:24] I think to me it's just a repeat of game one. It's like, they tried it again, they tried to play faster, they didn't play faster.
[08:42:30] And here we are. It was better than game one.
[08:42:33] I mean, I think that you can say that is true and also look at this Largo and say this is bullshit.
[08:42:40] What the hell?
[08:42:42] Like this bloodstone thing and these neutral items seem insane.
[08:42:47] I don't know.
[08:42:51] They're gonna go in and take down Roche now on Tundra.
[08:42:57] I'm so fast.
[08:42:59] They're trying to get here.
[08:43:00] They want it.
[08:43:01] Makoto looking, hunting.
[08:43:03] It's too late though.
[08:43:04] Pure already has the Aegis.
[08:43:05] Do you fight now?
[08:43:07] Is it even worth it?
[08:43:09] Does not look like it.
[08:43:11] God.
[08:43:12] They need rapier.
[08:43:15] Yeah, honestly, for Luna.
[08:43:17] And Satanic is going to do anything.
[08:43:19] I mean, to be fair, she'd also just lose a rager instantly, I feel like.
[08:43:22] I don't even think a rager's going to do anything to you.
[08:43:24] I mean, maybe if you can find Velargo and, like,
[08:43:27] hex Boomerang and just stand on top of him with rapier,
[08:43:30] he dies before he can, like, heal up Betta-Fool again.
[08:43:33] Oh, she's buying an Octa-Reab.
[08:43:35] Yeah, I know.
[08:43:40] Look at how much damage it is, man.
[08:43:42] Oh no, you can't heal and movement speed at the same time see he's he's dead
[08:43:51] Good thing he I mean now he just kills himself with
[08:43:55] Yes, now he's he's just griefing his allies and also has passive veil
[08:44:00] Which means you don't have to press more buttons while it works like
[08:44:04] Roo, that's the real dream right there
[08:44:07] Yeah, but the mana I mean look at that has to go back to the well
[08:44:13] I mean, it's a hard life when you have bots to you know. Yeah
[08:44:18] Geez
[08:44:20] He just bought dust for his teammates. Did you see that? Yeah
[08:44:23] He bought he bought duster and put in the well for somebody. That is nice
[08:44:27] That's a good now
[08:44:28] I might be vacuuming up all the farm on the map, but I can buy my support one dust
[08:44:32] They also have two gems. So I think that they're doing okay right now
[08:44:37] in this economy two gems that's right all right you're leading the charge here
[08:44:47] near it offset got a run gets away 33 trying to chase can't quite find them
[08:44:55] they're just like we will take any fight like it's just both blinking in random
[08:44:59] directions just begging them to try and make an attempt on their lives well if
[08:45:03] it's either of those two there's no way that you can kill them in time right
[08:45:07] No, I mean Ari's got a blink snowball, almost incredibly from behind them as well.
[08:45:17] Well, we don't have aggs yet on Makoto, maybe Pure can buy him one.
[08:45:23] I feel like that's what they're going to need at this point.
[08:45:25] But Puck does have a Shiba's about to be completed.
[08:45:28] That actually is another one of those that can be a little bit helpful.
[08:45:33] Brandon, it would have been nice if it was the old Shiba's.
[08:45:35] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no reduction hurts in terms of healing and health and whatnot.
[08:45:43] Yeah. Easy. I'm thinking about it. Besides not to go.
[08:45:50] Kodo gets out of trouble. They're waiting for somebody to show Pure inside the base, providing vision.
[08:46:01] will he be found? Yes indeed. That is going to be an and just propped in just a moment.
[08:46:06] They link it off immediately into the stun. Oh yeah, good hero. Very good hero. Normal
[08:46:12] things happening in this game as he is dead. And now Nightfall trying to turn and right-click
[08:46:18] and do whatever is possible, saving the BKB to get a lift up onto Pure. I think that
[08:46:25] as pure lands will get pulled down to the low ground by 33.
[08:46:31] Problem.
[08:46:33] Every second that continues this insanity.
[08:46:37] It is.
[08:46:37] Now he's getting refueled up here by white lawn.
[08:46:40] That's good.
[08:46:41] Oh, God.
[08:46:43] And yeah, that's the face of a player playing against a Largo right there.
[08:46:47] Yikes.
[08:46:49] All right, now he's ready.
[08:46:51] They didn't pop BKB for nightfall.
[08:46:53] Okay, good. They go for the Jax. Now what she wanted to see the other way though is Mira
[08:47:01] is immediately dead and now Nightfall getting chased down here to the side by Largo. Can
[08:47:06] they find anything to deal with this frau? You're turned upon now, Nightfall is down
[08:47:11] at half HP. There's the turn. He doesn't get the DKP off though. The Trinket Mod is
[08:47:16] dead and with that they will lose for it is going to be tundra coming in and
[08:47:25] taking the victory here Gigi is called well at first we thought of as the
[08:47:31] pango they took game two versus just the alchemist but game three three straight
[08:47:36] on the alch and pure making a case for this being a very strong option in the
[08:47:41] new patch really cool ideas from tundra all around it and just just out
[08:47:45] play in Aurora here who tried to pick up the pace. They tried to play quick, but with that pivotal moment
[08:47:51] where they try to get aggressive and they got the Andes on the puck, there's a couple of engagements.
[08:47:55] They don't win a bunch of fights with the Agnes on the 3-master level 12. They don't get the big
[08:47:59] objectives. And this is where we wind up. Oh, it's got to be painful. I mean, you play against
[08:48:06] Alcs three games in a row. You think you come up with the answer in game two and then they
[08:48:09] strike back like that? I think you're right. We're probably going to be seeing less Alcs
[08:48:14] going forward, as I think people are going to be looking to ban this guy maybe at the
[08:48:19] very least come up with a plan against it, against Tundra, because that was brutal. Really
[08:48:24] impressive showing as Tundra take the victory moving on in the upper bracket. Aurora, licked
[08:48:32] down to the low bracket by Tundra, and they're terrifying Lago coming out from 33. I mean,
[08:48:38] overall just three back-to-back games of Alchemist, and you know, every single game
[08:48:42] It's gonna look like it had its place winter. Is this just the new carry here to stay?
[08:48:48] Yeah, I'm afraid so Jack. We're going to see elk every day every hopefully not every game
[08:48:58] It's gonna be it's me fun right about Birmingham
[08:49:00] It's gonna be the test of can they shut down his farm will the plague and bait into a bags and bad acts purchase
[08:49:06] Will you find the correct acts purchase like it was this game because tongue
[08:49:09] You know as much as it looked like houses dropping and really what they have it all was built around get lago as big as possible
[08:49:16] You know he's buying the bloodstone for the damage and he's got the kaios and the damage out
[08:49:20] He's even getting the conjures catalysts, but even more damage then he's getting given the free agonies to allow him to play
[08:49:26] So you know there's a lot of things that made this lago big
[08:49:29] But I mean tundra they are showcasing that they are really trying to set the method with constantly forcing out in every single game
[08:49:36] You know you're gonna have to respect it
[08:49:38] I mean definitely one of the best defensive teams, having such a slow lineup and being able to make it work, defend their areas.
[08:49:48] I mean you look at that lineup, not many teams could have made this lineup, not many teams would have wanted to play their this lineup.
[08:49:56] It's not easy and it's amazing how they were able to just make it work with small little plays here and there, like the pick offs.
[08:50:03] line up is something that I would say that's a high amount of execution prowess to it. It's not easy to
[08:50:09] play it.
[08:50:11] It's also like knowing your limits. If I like both Lago and EpiCenter, Sanking,
[08:50:17] have the same idea where when you go in, you have to know the limits of your hero.
[08:50:22] We're Sanking. It's like, is my kit going to be able to 100 to 0 this person with, say,
[08:50:28] one extra support with Lago? Can I go into the middle of this fight,
[08:50:31] press all my spells and survive.
[08:50:33] So I think that really does just come down to execution
[08:50:35] and knowledge from the players to be able to know
[08:50:38] that this is the threshold of my hero.
[08:50:40] They know their limits so, so well,
[08:50:42] just because they're so good on these heroes.
[08:50:44] And that's what we're really seeing there.
[08:50:45] And of course, the Alchemist just completely enabling them both.
[08:50:48] Yeah, really cool stuff coming out from them, though.
[08:50:49] And Reddit's appear as well.
[08:50:51] I mean, you know, this guy is happy to just play
[08:50:54] the Alchemist and buy out Agnes for his teams.
[08:50:56] Like, what does Selfless do?
[08:50:58] That takes... Oh, that's cool.
[08:51:00] You say that though, but there's a lot of dopamine in being a carry player paying alchemist. You know that you hit a creep you hear that all the grievous greed just seeing it like
[08:51:07] There's he's getting his little carry fix. All right. I sure he's giving away some money here and there
[08:51:12] But let's not hide away from the fact that he's also just living the dream getting played out
[08:51:17] That is true. And also it's a good excuse to stay in the jungle if I don't my items yet guys
[08:51:21] That's like what's up good people I get acceptors. I know I need to stay in the jungle need to keep hitting them creeps
[08:51:27] Let's take a look at how things
[08:51:31] look now then after this win
[08:51:33] because it does indeed mean that
[08:51:35] tundra go through and we're going
[08:51:37] to have that upper bracket final
[08:51:39] in fact today of team Yandex versus
[08:51:41] tundra esports, which is very
[08:51:43] exciting indeed. Me, my spirit
[08:51:45] are waiting in the lower bracket
[08:51:47] quarterfinals for the winner of
[08:51:49] the lower bracket round one.
[08:51:51] That's the I mean, you know, we
[08:51:53] knew that today could go either
[08:51:55] series potentially going to
[08:51:58] be more convincing into the
[08:52:00] second series going to be a
[08:52:02] bit tighter. But in the end,
[08:52:02] both series went to three games.
[08:52:04] Both series very entertaining,
[08:52:05] so a really good start.
[08:52:06] Hopefully we can get a lot more
[08:52:08] of this close three game series
[08:52:10] Dota at ESL one Birmingham to.
[08:52:12] No, for sure. I look at that
[08:52:14] love bracket and I'll be
[08:52:15] honest. It just looks messy,
[08:52:17] right? It's just like, you
[08:52:18] know, there's this potential
[08:52:19] for a Falcons run XG and any
[08:52:21] series they play like that,
[08:52:22] you know, they're here
[08:52:23] miss and that's the joy of
[08:52:24] like there's going to be a story around it and even like tundra yandex. I think yandex,
[08:52:27] but last time they were in a grand finals against tundra, they got demolished 3-0 that
[08:52:31] was in the slam 5 finals. Since then, yandex have just been levelling up. So I think there's a
[08:52:36] little bit of a, you know, something proving yandex want to do to tundra. No, we are able to,
[08:52:40] you know, best you this time around in, you know, on the big stage.
[08:52:44] Winter, what do you think is going to happen in that series of yandex versus tundra when
[08:52:48] when it comes around on Saturday?
[08:52:51] It's going to be tough to my heart is with Yandex,
[08:52:54] but I know Tundra is probably going to come up with some trumps
[08:52:58] that I dislike and they're going to win it.
[08:53:00] These guys, they know how to build every single thing.
[08:53:04] They are a very, very smart team.
[08:53:06] I think they're probably one of the best teams
[08:53:09] at dissecting a patch.
[08:53:11] If there's a patch in one day,
[08:53:13] in one day's time, they're able to figure out
[08:53:16] what is probably the most optimal way to play the game,
[08:53:19] what heroes, what builds.
[08:53:21] I feel like this is just their game, you know.
[08:53:25] And staying on New Winter for just a second,
[08:53:27] I mean, with the Lager, actually,
[08:53:29] I've got a better person to ask about Lager, sorry, Winter.
[08:53:32] We've got Mr. 33 on the phone.
[08:53:35] Mr. 33, I mean, nice frog, beautiful game.
[08:53:38] How do you find this hero to play?
[08:53:40] Do you enjoy playing the Lager?
[08:53:42] Yeah, yeah, it's super fun.
[08:53:44] You're just chilling, just running around, you know.
[08:53:47] Let's play a good round.
[08:53:49] It's a blessing.
[08:53:50] Yeah, just chilling, playing good vibes across the map.
[08:53:53] It looked great fun to play.
[08:53:55] In seriousness though, with this series,
[08:53:57] what was the plan coming into it?
[08:53:59] How did you plan to beat Aurora
[08:54:00] and did things sort of go to that plan?
[08:54:04] Do you really plan anything specific for those,
[08:54:07] for them?
[08:54:07] We just saw the patch, tried to come up with
[08:54:11] what's going to be good,
[08:54:11] What are the heroes that look OP, what's good for us, and what they might look at?
[08:54:16] Just the usual, but I guess it was harder to prepare than a normal game because we didn't really know what they were going to do.
[08:54:25] So it was a bit random, I guess.
[08:54:28] So based on those drafts, do you think that your ideas and Aurora's ideas kind of matched up in what was strong and what was weak?
[08:54:36] I don't think they have really shown anything new. They just did what they did before, which is nothing wrong with that, I guess.
[08:54:48] I'm not really sure.
[08:54:52] Alright, Mr. Tegelfler, have you got a question for 33 here?
[08:54:59] Yeah, sure. I have no idea if you've been asked this already, so I apologise if you have.
[08:55:03] What's your thought on the removal of facets like when you got the patch notes and you read them like well
[08:55:08] You happy the facets getting removed you do kind of like the direction that like the balancing is moving in
[08:55:15] Yeah, I think it's pretty good. I
[08:55:17] Didn't really like it that much. It's just it was kind of annoying that you have to remember to choose something at the start of
[08:55:24] every game and
[08:55:26] Usually you're always going to choose the same one and then sometimes maybe you miss click or the game like decided to
[08:55:30] to change it for you and now, you know, ever since I've played one game with the
[08:55:35] visit faithful followers
[08:55:41] That is a major blunder my god and on top of that of course tundra
[08:55:46] You're always the team to find the next item to break and then inevitably nerf you ruin tranquil boots
[08:55:52] I think boxy also help with that one the shul right this 450 gold item for 10% magic resistance
[08:55:59] Do you think the numbers are a bit too good? I'm seeing a lot of players just like casually buying this item
[08:56:05] I don't know honestly need to check the maths on that one because 10% is a lot less than 15%
[08:56:12] Right, I think yeah, I don't really know how it works out. I need to
[08:56:17] Sure need to find some someone who can who can explain this to me
[08:56:20] So early days make sense make sense winter got any questions for the boss 33
[08:56:26] Yeah, you mentioned you like the fastest being removed. How do you like about the off-lane changes, you know, like the creeps and everything else?
[08:56:34] Do you think that it favours the off-laners right now, the meta?
[08:56:38] Yeah, it's a lot nicer. There's, you know, the lane spawns much closer to the tower and some Jekiro and Roller got a little bit nerfed.
[08:56:47] So yeah, I enjoy learning a lot more but we'll see I'm sure people sooner or later
[08:56:53] We'll figure out the new you're in the fives and I'll go back to losing my lane ever again
[08:57:02] I also wanted to ask you
[08:57:05] Three back-to-back games of alchemist did appear really want to play three games of alchemist in a row
[08:57:10] Is he really going up to game three and going? Yeah, please let me go let me go around again
[08:57:14] Yeah, it was his idea, so I think he was happy to do it.
[08:57:20] Alright, fair enough. Well, one more question to us then.
[08:57:23] I mean, you've done it, you've gotten top three already.
[08:57:26] You're coming up to play against Team Yandex.
[08:57:28] What are your thoughts on that, Team?
[08:57:29] Are you excited to play them on the main stage?
[08:57:32] Yeah, I mean, they looked really good.
[08:57:34] Obviously, they won the last tournament and they looked great here as well.
[08:57:37] So, it should be a fun series.
[08:57:39] We played against them already and it was a pretty close series.
[08:58:13] exactly what you'd expect to see from an upper bracket team. Final thoughts on this series and
[08:58:18] watch these beautiful highlights here. My final thoughts for sure would be I think Tundra have
[08:58:24] shown that they've really respected what 7.41 has done to Dota. They've like applied their kind of
[08:58:30] their base ideas from the previous patch, but then they've started like fine-tuning already,
[08:58:34] with only like let's say 48 hours, you know, new concepts and the other teams
[08:58:39] haven't really been able to develop that quickly. I think some of the drafts from
[08:58:42] spirit felt like they were old patch. Some of the drafts in the world also had sort of like
[08:58:47] lingering pieces of 7.40 rather than 4-1. So I think already Tundra, they look like to be the
[08:58:52] biggest innovators so far. And I'm excited to see kind of like what we're going to see,
[08:58:57] what other innovation is available. There's plenty of Blur Bracket teams. Of course,
[08:59:00] we won't get to see Yandex or Tundra tomorrow. They get one day break, but it's so early on
[08:59:05] that it just takes one team to have the confidence to do something and it's going to
[08:59:09] to be here like the Lager right like no one really probably was going to play Lager at
[08:59:12] all in the offlane now you see how it can work sure specific conditions but Tundra are
[08:59:17] the adventures of Birmingham. They are indeed. Tundra they are definitely the ones ahead
[08:59:24] right now they seem to understand the matter ahead of everybody else and it's probably
[08:59:29] time for the other teams to copy Tundra you know to try to refer to what they are
[08:59:33] doing and try to understand why are they picking certain heroes, you know?
[08:59:38] Absolutely. We'll see how everybody adjusts that, especially these teams here down in the lower bracket
[08:59:43] because they don't have much time to adjust to try to make this patch work for them.
[08:59:47] They've got to get things figured out as quickly as possible and there is no safety net for them.
[08:59:51] It is only one series.
[08:59:53] So tomorrow come and join us as we're going to start things off at 12 p.m. with mouths versus extreme gaming.
[09:00:00] we're going to move on towards
[09:00:04] falcons versus paravision and
[09:00:06] then we have team spirit versus
[09:00:08] the winners of that first series,
[09:00:10] so plenty of exciting games to
[09:00:12] come tomorrow and it could all
[09:00:14] go incredibly well or incredibly
[09:00:16] wrong for a lot of these beginning
[09:00:18] teams. You know, I feel like now
[09:00:20] more than ever with this fresh patch
[09:00:22] coming in a lot of games is going
[09:00:24] to benefit a team quite a lot. So if
[09:00:26] you do go through that little
[09:00:28] team. Yeah, I feel like there's, it's just like information on new patches critical and
[09:00:34] being able to, the thing is that you have to be really good at like, let's say like poker,
[09:00:37] right? You need a good poker face. Like when you draft, even if it's a bad draft, you have
[09:00:40] to be like, this is good. You know, this is the meta. If you convince everyone else that,
[09:00:44] you know, like first pick in, I don't know, you know, crystal maiden carry is the thing
[09:00:49] and you win with it. You know, everyone else is going to think about it. All right.
[09:00:51] That's how you win tournament. You got to gaslight the enemy team, make yourself
[09:00:55] you can do it. You can do it
[09:00:58] with a lot of different ways.
[09:01:00] You can do it with a lot of
[09:01:01] different methods of the method
[09:01:02] defining people, and then you
[09:01:03] can progression way through. So
[09:01:05] I want lower bracket big chess
[09:01:06] will count on stage strong draft
[09:01:07] maybe not the crystal made and
[09:01:09] carry. And also you have to get
[09:01:11] the crowd on your side. Birmingham
[09:01:13] is a loud crowd. You need to do
[09:01:14] your thing. Get them on your
[09:01:15] side. They'll start whooping
[09:01:16] for Roshan's and cheering for
[09:01:17] smokes and all the shenanigans
[09:01:19] of an arena that probably
[09:01:21] you shouldn't be doing. I don't
[09:01:22] know why I advocated for
[09:01:23] that, but still there is a
[09:01:25] If you're going now into a pub game, you know, you've watched your day for the day
[09:01:29] You've seen all the patch stuff you're queuing up. What should you be picking in this new patch to a farm MMR?
[09:01:35] You hear
[09:01:38] Still on that
[09:01:46] I'm gonna change okay, maybe I'll change to better man
[09:01:49] I'm going to say it's a lot.
[09:01:51] There you go.
[09:01:53] You want to win as a copy out.
[09:01:57] I'll commit. Yeah, I'll commit.
[09:01:59] Just be a battery for your team and
[09:02:01] hopefully your teammates are have their
[09:02:03] keyboards plugged in. That's always a
[09:02:05] good idea in your pub games.
[09:02:07] Alrighty, let's take a look at this all
[09:02:09] important EWC points and see where
[09:02:11] everybody is sitting at the moment
[09:02:13] because of course this is what is up
[09:02:15] for grabs here. There are not many
[09:02:17] you're going to have to
[09:02:19] get to the next World Cup in
[09:02:21] this summer. And that is the
[09:02:23] event you want to be at. And
[09:02:25] here's what the standings look
[09:02:27] like now. We've got Yannick's
[09:02:29] creeping up those charts. We
[09:02:31] got Tundra at the very top, of
[09:02:33] course, already securing
[09:02:35] themselves 9000 points. Not
[09:02:36] quite locked in qualified yet,
[09:02:37] but I feel like they probably
[09:02:39] will be very shortly. And, of
[09:02:41] course, down at the bottom
[09:02:42] still plenty of points up for
[09:02:43] grabs for the rest of the
[09:02:45] teams coming through. So if
[09:02:46] those points and make it to react in the summer.
[09:02:49] That's going to just about do it for us.
[09:02:51] I mean, we are heading towards the end of our day.
[09:02:53] I mean, you know, we've talked about the patch.
[09:02:56] We've talked about the teams we've seen before us.
[09:02:58] The only question I've got left to ask you guys,
[09:03:00] Winter, who's winning this tournament?
[09:03:04] Tantra.
[09:03:06] Why are you so mad about it?
[09:03:11] I was going to say Yandex and then I realized,
[09:03:13] oh my God, I think Tyra is just too good.
[09:03:16] I mean, that's where my head
[09:03:23] goes. But I mean, I said heart
[09:03:25] as if I have some affiliate.
[09:03:26] It's part of Falcon. It's something
[09:03:28] about falcons. I can I can see it.
[09:03:30] I can see it. But if I want a true
[09:03:32] team that my heart calls for to
[09:03:34] win, it would be XG. I don't think
[09:03:36] anyone has muttered their name
[09:03:38] even throw them into the existence
[09:03:40] of a grand finals team. So I think
[09:03:42] for me just seeing XG in a grand
[09:03:44] you know, we're going to be
[09:03:48] going to the grand finals in
[09:03:50] front of like a UK crowd, but
[09:03:51] we will always cheer for the
[09:03:53] bracket team. That just just
[09:03:54] feels like a magical moment
[09:03:56] potentially for you know,
[09:03:57] another iconic Birmingham. So
[09:03:59] yeah, for that alone, I've got
[09:04:00] to go with XG just for the
[09:04:02] crowd. I mean, for the crowd
[09:04:04] XG versus Thunder be very
[09:04:06] exciting. Indeed. You pick
[09:04:07] some great options there. And
[09:04:08] of course, hometown hero Ari
[09:04:09] coming through. Everybody's
[09:04:11] going to be making loads of
[09:04:12] that. But it's Birmingham.
[09:04:13] to be an experience and a half. I can't wait. I'm heading down. T's heading down. Winter's
[09:04:17] too far to head down, but he's going to watch from home and have a great time. And we are
[09:04:21] all done with the broadcast. Guys, thank you so much for watching. We've enjoyed it. Enjoy
[09:04:25] the next three days of main stage Dota 2 over ESL on Berlin. Thank you and good night.
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