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05-21-2026 · 12h 33m

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[00:00:00] Because I'm ready to go
[00:00:02] Now, take care of it
[00:00:05] Let's go, bro
[00:00:07] Now, just in your life
[00:00:10] I want to feel it now
[00:00:15] Say you're comin' to run
[00:00:21] Say you look, say you look
[00:00:23] You know I need you now
[00:00:29] You know I need you now
[00:00:32] What are you doing?
[00:00:35] This is the way
[00:00:37] I, I, I do know
[00:00:40] What are you doing?
[00:00:43] This is the way
[00:00:45] Cause I'm letting it go
[00:00:48] Now
[00:00:50] And I can't do
[00:00:53] Just give me a life
[00:00:56] I just want to feel it now
[00:01:01] Say you're coming to me
[00:01:04] Where do I go?
[00:01:06] It's just when I see you
[00:01:08] Say you're looking for me tonight
[00:01:11] Where do I go?
[00:01:13] It's just when I look at you
[00:01:16] Say you're coming to me
[00:01:19] Where do I go?
[00:01:21] It's just when I see you
[00:01:23] You say look at me, I need you now
[00:01:27] Well, don't worry, I'll never stop
[00:01:30] You only know I need to know
[00:01:34] I feel strange things when I'm around you It's like the sun shines brighter since I found you
[00:02:01] Then another thought's ahead of me
[00:02:04] Or just to get me through
[00:02:06] This moment, and I'm holding that spell
[00:02:09] It's true
[00:02:11] Look at me
[00:02:12] It's a crazy new thing
[00:02:14] It's a love thing
[00:02:15] It's a love thing
[00:02:17] It's a crazy new thing
[00:02:18] It's a crazy new thing
[00:02:19] It's a love thing
[00:02:20] Look at me
[00:02:21] It's a crazy new thing
[00:02:23] It's a love thing
[00:02:24] It's a crazy new thing
[00:02:58] It's a physical, a naturalist on my side
[00:03:02] But it's impossible
[00:03:04] Cause at the moment that you're close
[00:03:07] And I give up the truth
[00:03:10] It's a crazy, long day
[00:03:13] It's a long day
[00:03:14] It's a crazy, long day
[00:03:17] It's a long day
[00:03:19] It's a crazy, long day
[00:03:22] It's a long day
[00:03:24] It's a crazy, long day
[00:03:56] Dream League Season 29 is brought to you by DHL and Chex.
[00:04:26] Have a very good morning!
[00:04:29] So, everybody's here, of course.
[00:04:31] It's Dreaming Season 29.
[00:04:33] We're in love with Landon and the usual boys, don't worry about it.
[00:04:36] The Dota is still coming as planned, and that is all that matters.
[00:04:41] I am joined this morning.
[00:04:43] There you are, you're moved.
[00:04:45] I'm joined this morning by Jenkins Kizu, and Insania.
[00:04:49] How are you doing, Jenkins?
[00:04:51] Excellent.
[00:04:52] Excellent.
[00:04:53] No matter what, no matter what,
[00:04:55] The Dota will always come.
[00:04:59] We will always have Dota.
[00:05:01] That is one thing in the universe that is a constant.
[00:05:05] It's a given.
[00:05:07] It's a given.
[00:05:09] It's like the speed of light.
[00:05:11] It's a constant.
[00:05:13] Do we know that's a constant?
[00:05:14] I don't want to get into this question.
[00:05:15] We don't have time for that because of how you do.
[00:05:17] I'm doing very good.
[00:05:18] You know, I'm here with some of the greatest of course.
[00:05:20] Everything's very normal, so I'm having a good morning.
[00:05:22] Yeah?
[00:05:23] Is any of you having a good morning?
[00:05:25] I'm feline per-fect.
[00:05:29] Good to hear it. You need to be on your best today.
[00:05:35] Insane. You know why.
[00:05:37] Because anything's possible.
[00:05:41] Anything is possible, including potentially beating the fastest record.
[00:05:47] I'm a competition we got going here.
[00:05:51] And I know how competitive you are.
[00:05:54] I don't like losing, let's put it that way.
[00:05:58] Well, you're not gonna get last, I can tell you that.
[00:06:00] Well, maybe, and that's good news for me.
[00:06:04] You have to really screw it up to get last.
[00:06:06] Oh my god.
[00:06:07] I feel like she was always good at these, and she's last.
[00:06:10] This game is rigged.
[00:06:13] We'll just have to find out, because I thought Gareth would take the lead.
[00:06:16] He was the first one, then Fog did even worse, and then...
[00:06:19] I didn't see what you did yesterday.
[00:06:21] Well, I-I-I-I-I-I got it up.
[00:06:24] Yeah.
[00:06:25] Well, hold the well, hang it up, and then I was so excited that the flu of the hook can come back in.
[00:06:30] I have to do it twice.
[00:06:32] Let's see if you can get it up.
[00:06:33] Let's see if you can beat it!
[00:06:35] The well is calling!
[00:06:37] I-I don't-I don't feel comfortable with these-with these cows.
[00:06:41] Hey, then you need to get it up and then keep it up, okay?
[00:06:43] Well, you got it.
[00:06:44] And no one-no one cares.
[00:06:46] Alright, alright.
[00:06:49] There's like a camera inside this well.
[00:06:50] Yeah, let me see you.
[00:06:52] Okay.
[00:06:53] You're the best focus face.
[00:06:54] How's it going?
[00:06:55] I'm keeping it up.
[00:06:57] That's good.
[00:06:58] Keep keeping it up.
[00:06:59] Cute.
[00:07:00] Okay, can it, like, sound smooth?
[00:07:01] Did anyone explain to you how to lift it up once you've...
[00:07:04] Yes, we told him to pull the little rope with the bottom.
[00:07:07] Look at David, like, it's like, it's spinning around way too much.
[00:07:10] Oh, wow!
[00:07:11] Oh my god!
[00:07:12] What?
[00:07:13] What the hell?
[00:07:14] That was fast!
[00:07:17] This guy's dexterous.
[00:07:18] This guy's a TI winner.
[00:07:19] I could do it!
[00:07:21] I don't know.
[00:07:22] He was practicing.
[00:07:23] I put it in the hole and then I pulled on it.
[00:07:25] What is this?
[00:07:26] I shouldn't do that.
[00:07:27] Look! They made it through the hookstance.
[00:07:29] Wait a minute. Is there anything in there?
[00:07:30] Yeah, there's something in there.
[00:07:31] Oh, well you gotta read it.
[00:07:32] Yeah, it's a security.
[00:07:33] Well, I have to read it.
[00:07:34] Yeah.
[00:07:35] You're gonna choose them one.
[00:07:36] Alright.
[00:07:42] Do it with an axe, then.
[00:07:43] Swedish.
[00:07:44] Bring this sparkling scintillife with diamonds.
[00:07:49] Be careful not to mix up your gems, or you will get into extreme difficulty.
[00:07:58] The mix of your gems? I have no idea what this puzzle is.
[00:08:01] This one is...
[00:08:02] Confusing.
[00:08:03] You know, the other one was at least called Painting.
[00:08:05] And I knew what the puzzle was.
[00:08:07] Yeah, it's called, oh sorry, Jazzling Design.
[00:08:11] He didn't read the title.
[00:08:12] I didn't read the title.
[00:08:13] Well, that still doesn't give much more away.
[00:08:15] I think we might need Blossoming Bob.
[00:08:17] Bob. I think it's Bobby. I think it's time. It's time for Bobby. It's time for Bobby.
[00:08:21] LOSNING BOOOOOOB!
[00:08:24] Oh, he's got an extra bag, an extra box today.
[00:08:29] What's in the bag? What's in the bag, Bob? What's in the bag?
[00:08:36] No! No way! Oh my god. Oh my god.
[00:08:42] Wow!
[00:08:44] That's a cool bag.
[00:08:46] That's crazy.
[00:08:55] What was that?
[00:08:56] He's a magician.
[00:08:58] Thank you, Sean.
[00:09:00] Oh.
[00:09:01] Talk.
[00:09:02] Oh, it came out of the bag! Mary Poppins bag!
[00:09:04] Oh, talk talk.
[00:09:06] Who's more talk?
[00:09:10] What are we looking at here?
[00:09:11] Well, while Jenkins is going to try to figure out what we're looking at there, we are looking at a bracket
[00:09:16] because we've had three series yesterday in the lower bracket. Every single series went the distance.
[00:09:24] Yes, nine games of elimination yesterday. It was pretty hype. I'll say yesterday is going to be hard to top.
[00:09:33] There's one more lower bracket game, of course, that's coming your way today.
[00:09:37] Na'Vi vs. Playtime haven't played yet and if yesterday is anything to go of us then we're
[00:09:43] going to be in a four quite a good one. We can also take a look at the upper bracket
[00:09:50] because yesterday even though we did not have any action in the upper bracket the day before,
[00:09:55] Kezu, we did. Yeah, no absolutely because you have Falcons, Conor, I mean a lot of the
[00:10:01] good teams that you had in like shape before I think they're really firing up again
[00:10:05] right with Falcons and also Spurs being back in form, but also Parry and Aurora, they're doing
[00:10:11] quite quite well. You know one of your favorite teams of course, Mr. Aiden, Team Liquid,
[00:10:16] they didn't really do it in the last couple days. Yeah, it's not been looking hot. No. I mean to be
[00:10:21] honest, I feel like they have some performances where they look at them and they look very very good
[00:10:26] and then sometimes I feel like they kind of crumble and fall and I think generally speaking,
[00:10:31] Liquid is a team that's always good against Chinese teams, this is the stylistic thing,
[00:10:35] so I think them losing to XJ hurts like extra about it.
[00:10:39] Yeah, that series was kind of a banger.
[00:10:43] It was kind of a banger. The back game 3 was insane. There was a moment where like
[00:10:47] Niki and Ami had like the most anime battle I've seen in a long time.
[00:10:51] They literally just like, draw sitting on her hill,
[00:10:53] Windrangers just running in from like the other side of the screen,
[00:10:56] and they just hit each other the entire time, and then like,
[00:10:59] Mickey just barely throws a 10% HP.
[00:11:01] It was really exciting. If you guys didn't see that game, make sure you check it out.
[00:11:04] That's definitely one to rewatch.
[00:11:05] Yeah, you should definitely check that one out.
[00:11:07] Also, with the yesterday's series being so close, it means that maybe they would have been very difficult to predict.
[00:11:17] And we should take a look at what our check reader board's at right now.
[00:11:22] Because some people are just really good at this. Lacoste is still crushing it.
[00:11:29] That's why he is the best analyst, of course, you know, among us.
[00:11:31] This is said every single day, my bro, he's cooking 16 points.
[00:11:36] He absolutely is cooking.
[00:11:38] I mean, I will say if Liquid did better at this event, I would have way more points.
[00:11:41] Yeah, unlucky for you.
[00:11:43] That is unfortunate.
[00:11:45] Yeah, unfortunately, Aurora is doing quite well at this event, so I'm having too many points.
[00:11:50] I hear too many excuses.
[00:11:52] I feel like it's honestly quite impressive that you try to loss max every tournament.
[00:11:55] And he's still not the best at it.
[00:11:57] Nami did it one time and he's cooking it.
[00:12:00] This is only the second season.
[00:12:01] He's not even putting his things in.
[00:12:03] It's just production doing it for him.
[00:12:04] Sure it is.
[00:12:05] Jenkins, I need you to tell me what this green thing is.
[00:12:09] What?
[00:12:09] I also would like to know what this is.
[00:12:13] Shavier, you're going to have to read the instructions
[00:12:14] because I read it and I still don't know.
[00:12:16] Well, I know the type of thing it is.
[00:12:18] So this is basically one big sticker.
[00:12:21] That's why we have to eventually remove this.
[00:12:23] and then we will stick these little things on here,
[00:12:27] color coordinated the way that the picture goes,
[00:12:29] and I think this bottom says how it got,
[00:12:32] like what the things are, whatever.
[00:12:35] What is the picture?
[00:12:36] I think it's just green, it's flowers.
[00:12:39] It's like it's flowers or something, no?
[00:12:41] Yeah, okay.
[00:12:42] Yeah.
[00:12:43] View of, what does it say?
[00:12:45] View of the tree,
[00:12:48] a pre-cloth monnaie, so it's a cloth monnaie painting.
[00:12:51] It is a soft French painting.
[00:12:52] I don't know how to pronounce this word.
[00:12:54] Vasseline.
[00:12:55] Vasseline.
[00:12:56] It's really Vasseline.
[00:12:57] Vasseline.
[00:12:58] Oh yeah, Vasseline.
[00:12:59] You are Vasseline.
[00:13:01] That's French.
[00:13:01] I think it's Westwheel.
[00:13:03] That's you.
[00:13:03] Westwheel, I think.
[00:13:04] It's what it should be.
[00:13:05] From Claude Monet, very important.
[00:13:08] The painter Monet painted a picture of plants.
[00:13:11] And we're going to recreate it.
[00:13:12] That's the Dota player.
[00:13:13] Monet.
[00:13:13] Monet, yeah.
[00:13:14] And Chinese carry player.
[00:13:16] But that's basically what we're doing.
[00:13:17] So for example, this is a dark ring.
[00:13:20] you're supposed to make the dark ring like put them in the right places I
[00:13:25] don't know how to see like you know cuz this is a dark this is a dark ring but
[00:13:30] how do we know what type of dark ring that is you guys keep hope this is
[00:13:34] actually I do know 8255 8 plus 2 plus 5 8255 8 what 8 plus 2 plus 5 look look
[00:13:44] 15 yeah I'm plus five 20 okay good thank you 21 this is a two plus five so a
[00:13:50] two five five so now you have to look up all those that have that little arrow on
[00:13:55] it and you're gonna find them fuck this this is the hardest challenge yet well
[00:14:03] they make it easier we get a camera zoom from this on the little dots little
[00:14:08] letters there's like L's and P's and T's on this thing I will start on this
[00:14:14] this area.
[00:14:15] You can't even tell.
[00:14:16] Each of these black symbols is like a letter that has a different colored thing.
[00:14:21] I don't know why they give a multiple.
[00:14:23] Oh, look!
[00:14:24] You can put multiple down at the same time.
[00:14:26] Oh my goodness gracious.
[00:14:28] But what is that?
[00:14:29] What is that?
[00:14:30] What is that?
[00:14:31] What is that?
[00:14:32] Trademark for these.
[00:14:33] Why is this glued together?
[00:14:34] Dude, this is glued together.
[00:14:35] For the logo, tell me.
[00:14:36] Yes.
[00:14:37] I hope we do.
[00:14:38] I think that's going to be, we're going to get demonetized.
[00:14:39] I'm reporting the stream right now.
[00:14:41] I'm going to report.
[00:14:42] Who made teleports?
[00:14:43] Diamond Dots into the Diamond Dots Tray.
[00:14:46] Twist open the Diamond Dots Wax Caddy, which is this.
[00:14:49] Too much diamond shiver.
[00:14:51] Peel away clear film from Wax Service.
[00:14:53] That's the...
[00:14:54] Press the head of the Diamond Dots stylus firmly into the wax
[00:14:58] heel before picking up your first Diamond Dots.
[00:15:00] Back to him.
[00:15:02] Ow!
[00:15:03] This is a pen thing to hold the pen better.
[00:15:05] I'll keep the wingles.
[00:15:10] That's good.
[00:15:11] We're gonna stick her that later.
[00:15:12] I think if your cat's making that noise, you should take it to the vet.
[00:15:15] It's a defending vet, louder for the ones who are here.
[00:15:18] You guys talked about our first series, maybe in the meantime.
[00:15:21] How about I talk about our first series?
[00:15:22] Yeah, that sounds great.
[00:15:23] Let's keep that up.
[00:15:24] Alright, cool.
[00:15:25] We did another tech segment today, but this series is essentially the grand finals of this tournament.
[00:15:30] True.
[00:15:31] Like, I know it might sound like it's true.
[00:15:33] You need to elaborate for the people out there.
[00:15:34] But the winner of this series goes to EWC, which is like 95% of the reason...
[00:15:39] To correct you.
[00:15:40] To correct you.
[00:15:41] Playtime needs to win more than once.
[00:15:43] They all need to win their next series against Bethel.
[00:15:46] Yeah, but that one's like a given.
[00:15:48] This series is like life or death, right?
[00:15:51] He's right.
[00:15:52] Basically, if Navi doesn't do it, it's no longer in their own hands.
[00:15:56] Yeah.
[00:15:57] Exactly.
[00:15:58] And that is like 90% of the reason you play Dream League to begin with.
[00:16:02] It's to go to UWC.
[00:16:04] And now it's in Paris.
[00:16:06] If you ever know.
[00:16:07] And you really want to go there.
[00:16:09] That's the city of love.
[00:16:11] It is the city of love.
[00:16:12] Yeah.
[00:16:13] Romance, love, and muckerel.
[00:16:14] Sweet love.
[00:16:15] Yeah.
[00:16:16] Macadam.
[00:16:17] Yes, those two.
[00:16:18] Macadam.
[00:16:19] You know that?
[00:16:20] Yeah, I do know that.
[00:16:21] It's like, right?
[00:16:22] You do it.
[00:16:23] Muckerel.
[00:16:24] Muckerel.
[00:16:25] I love that one.
[00:16:27] He knows that one.
[00:16:28] Yeah.
[00:16:29] Do you know that one?
[00:16:30] I have no idea where he is.
[00:16:31] Anyway, she's...
[00:16:32] No, no, no.
[00:16:33] You don't have to think about it.
[00:16:34] Yeah, go ahead.
[00:16:35] Okay, so for the game itself, I think it's really interesting.
[00:16:37] Niku versus Mago. I think Niku, generally speaking, has been playing kind of weird heroes, as always.
[00:16:43] And if Mago is more of a traditional, he wants to play Bligstone, you know?
[00:16:48] And he doesn't like getting cheesed.
[00:16:49] He's the honest guy.
[00:16:50] He's the honest guy. He doesn't want to get cheesed.
[00:16:52] And I think Niku is like the cheese.
[00:16:54] So I think this might be a series where Niku really is to shine.
[00:16:57] Yeah, like he plays his, what is it, Kez, Naisaka. His Invoker isn't cheesy, but I've seen him do...
[00:17:05] Like, he wins matchups that other people on Invoker don't.
[00:17:07] Yeah.
[00:17:08] Like, versus Pangle, versus Conker, and whatever.
[00:17:10] But I do like that assessment.
[00:17:12] He reminds me a bit of, like, XM.
[00:17:13] He's a little bit like this type of mid-player.
[00:17:15] He's like, I don't care about my game.
[00:17:17] I'm going to screw your game.
[00:17:19] I actually had a really strange epiphany last night
[00:17:22] when I was watching Niko play.
[00:17:25] And it was that he's the first Dota player
[00:17:27] that I've watched in a very long time, where I actively
[00:17:31] don't know what he's doing until, like, 40 seconds later.
[00:17:33] Like, I can watch Static or Nightfall, any of these, like, top tier players that are around his rank.
[00:17:39] Yeah.
[00:17:39] And I can see what they do. I'm like, okay, that's really good. Like, I understand.
[00:17:42] With Niku, I see a play, and I'm genuinely like, what the fuck is he doing?
[00:17:46] Niku's more...
[00:17:47] But then, 30 seconds later, it makes sense to me.
[00:17:50] Yeah. He's like, the, the top sum type.
[00:17:52] Yeah.
[00:17:52] He has that vein of like...
[00:17:54] It's crazy, but it works.
[00:17:56] Sometimes.
[00:17:57] Because what I saw was he didn't BKB out of a fight, he survived a 10% HP with Nightstalker.
[00:18:02] I was like, why didn't he BKB? That's so risky.
[00:18:04] And he jumps back in, uses the BKB, immediately dies.
[00:18:08] But I'm thinking like, if he used his NICE Dr. Thing to heal him, and then he does that,
[00:18:14] he's baiting a fight there by being 10% HP.
[00:18:16] And it's actually, he did it a couple of times in the game, and it's like,
[00:18:19] he's thinking about his low HP as like a resource to be used.
[00:18:22] In that case, it looked really funny, and it looked really silly, but the kids rank 4.
[00:18:26] So, he's good.
[00:18:27] He clearly pulls this off sometimes, and it works, and it's very subversive.
[00:18:31] Like as an old Dota player myself I watched it
[00:18:33] I was like I would think that he's going back to base right now or he's not going to re-initiate because it's just so silly
[00:18:39] And it didn't work out in that situation, but obviously it does sometimes in his pops, right?
[00:18:43] I mean I feel like these types of players they are highly volatile right?
[00:18:47] Yeah, they like calibrate and find like the perfect balance. Yes
[00:18:52] That's like the thing I think he's not quite there yet, but you can see the potential you can see the workings of like
[00:18:57] future greatness. Which is so crazy because he's ranked 4 and you can still see the potential.
[00:19:04] Because this fight was like, I audibly laughed. I was like, that's crazy. He did that, but it's still working.
[00:19:11] It's also a good trait to have. It's a lot harder, at least in my experience, to nourish or teach aggression as opposed to just like,
[00:19:21] you need to tone it down a bit because it's also, you can tell from what you guys are talking about too, that
[00:19:25] It's a high skill to like a HP number shouldn't just be an HP number like sometimes one HP can be infinite
[00:19:32] Obviously if they can't hit you don't have any spells left. Yeah, and I think that's just a good thing to build on
[00:19:36] So while this guy is incredibly inconsistent, I like this guy
[00:19:40] He's a very exciting player to launch. I mean like I said, I think he has like the top some pain
[00:19:45] He does not quite there yet, but definitely has like the pile of gameplay
[00:19:50] So for now, I think Axe has been one of the winningest heroes.
[00:19:54] I think almost 7-5 for someone, right?
[00:19:56] And they've played it maybe even like 10 times.
[00:19:58] It's like their most played hero, most winning hero.
[00:20:01] I'll pick it up from here.
[00:20:03] It's also interesting, like Saber played it yesterday, and it looked kinda good.
[00:20:08] When the tournament started off, I saw a lot of early pick Axes, and I wasn't really sure why,
[00:20:12] but it seems like the heroes are just kinda stable.
[00:20:14] Yeah, I think he's just good. He builds good items.
[00:20:16] Like it also seems the way like having early phase blues maybe some bonus armor that you get from blade mail
[00:20:21] Yeah, it's good and what I also value a lot for this heroes
[00:20:24] Just you always help your four like most of the time win the trade battle against the five because bad longer is a stupid spell
[00:20:29] Like that spell is so hard to deal with especially early on
[00:20:33] This is not here. They've picked a lot both Venom and Phoenix. They played very very often
[00:20:37] On on Navi, which is the L. I think it's pretty good here
[00:20:40] Of course if you lane into a tusk or hood ring if you're the vendor you have to be slightly careful if you trade on the side
[00:20:45] If the Venom is kind of good against Tusk in that like, you slow him and then you, you know, like get to you generally good here against melee dudes.
[00:20:52] But for Tusk the game plan becomes to just kill Venom, right?
[00:20:55] If you get the shards and you get 5th team and you get on top of them, the boy will melt.
[00:20:59] I was a bit surprised overall that they chose one of these two over like Phoenix.
[00:21:05] That's a hero I've seen a lot and that they also have played a lot.
[00:21:08] You mean Venom?
[00:21:09] Yeah, like Phoenix over Venom, for instance, like whoever is playing the 5th, right?
[00:21:13] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:21:14] Do you have any read on that?
[00:21:16] Not in particular, I mean, looking at it, I would think you're leaning into hoodwink.
[00:21:21] And my mind, Venom is not like a very good anti-hoodwink hero.
[00:21:26] And usually when you pick your 5, when you see your 4, you want to pick something that lanes well into it, right?
[00:21:31] You don't want to put the pressure on your carry to have to countervake both heroes.
[00:21:34] So for me, the Venom doesn't really make that much sense.
[00:21:37] They might have some greater, grander game plan with it, but we'll see how it plays out.
[00:21:42] or they just have like some reed that the tusk will be in that lane no matter what
[00:21:46] in which case Phoenix and are pretty entertaining
[00:21:49] this has been amazing bro I'm I'm honestly shocked that me too actually
[00:21:55] this I do not think this there's answers there's a water and shit there's
[00:22:00] invoker yeah I thought going into the series if Necro comes out it's because
[00:22:06] it's gonna be more to our SD I don't see any other really great answer in
[00:22:12] Invoker is good, but it's not like more to be perfect
[00:22:16] No, no, no why you said it like that? Yeah, that's kind of weird
[00:22:21] I think where that has got to be one also that's crazy. Pango is like almost
[00:22:25] Pick that later to the draft. That must be so rare. I do think though. I'm gonna check my stuff
[00:22:30] Yeah, but I think play times Pango has like it's not very bad with me
[00:22:35] If I'm not wrong, I'm sure it's not that good
[00:22:37] The good thing for them is that they can flex it, because it's obviously second pick, you pick 16-17, you get a double core, but Necro is one of the best match-ups into Axe.
[00:22:46] Like, first of all, you can help your 5 trade a lot, you're quite good against Axe, hope you're on the lingers, never really any pressure on you.
[00:22:52] It might also be their most successful hero, like, from carries. I think they've played it 3 times on Wits and he's owned every single time.
[00:22:58] At least you get the Muerta, which is very good in this game. Like, this is one of the better Muerta games.
[00:23:03] I have a question for you guys, because I've played a lot of Necro against Marks, and it feels like unplayable to me,
[00:23:09] but I play off-play Necro, and I'm just wondering, for like the carry-to-carry matchup, is it the same?
[00:23:15] Is it really like that unplayable, or like the timing's different?
[00:23:18] It helps us carry, because you have more gold to offset the bad matchup.
[00:23:23] But you need to play with a DKB against this hero.
[00:23:25] It's like, Goldshot obviously doesn't do anything, you just get cooked, so you're gonna need like DKB.
[00:23:31] Basically you need to find a way to bait out her old BKB and like kite back and then like kill her on your second go
[00:23:37] Where maybe after the BKB you get a low you get to scythe her, but it's still it's a horrendous matchup still
[00:23:42] I mean, I think what you described is like the general concept of how you beat Malartor, right?
[00:23:46] Yeah, it's applicable for any any kind of carry. So I think
[00:23:50] Why I don't think Necro's good against Malartor. I think Malartor has a much easier time than Necro does
[00:23:55] I would assume is still playable like you're gonna crush axe so hard and move down
[00:23:59] But you're gonna kind of play off of having like a golden damage and if you're able to counter pressure the more
[00:24:04] It has a slow game you can get thank you enough to where you actually have the item advantage and you can trade her out
[00:24:09] And stuff like that. So I don't think it's like an unplayable game
[00:24:13] I think what it's kind of cool what they did with the pango though. They picked pango good here against invoker
[00:24:17] Navi then don't go for the nico in bow even though it's like probably his most comfortable hero. Yeah, I
[00:24:23] Wonder though if they would still look for here if it's not bad
[00:24:26] they might. I see the Kunkaburn and I think like what else would you bang Kunkaburn for?
[00:24:32] No, you're right. There's still a very high chance. The only thing that is in my mind,
[00:24:36] and maybe that's like thinking too far ahead, if I'm playtime, I would really like a hero such as
[00:24:42] Centaur potentially. I think that can help you try to murder. It's good for your draft. So is there
[00:24:47] a way that Na'Vi take a hero where Pango isn't having to go mid? So that you kind of shove him
[00:24:53] into the off lane to semi-protect yourself from them not getting a stand for that feels great.
[00:24:58] I think the problem with Fango is that he's too good at stalking you open, you know, like you'll
[00:25:03] do well in most lanes. Yeah. I mean the pull and sometimes a cool idea because you also,
[00:25:07] you know, you talk about fighting at Murata and like not dying during your old
[00:25:12] the cards, right? Yeah. You can cart up to Nefro as soon as Murata plays your ulti and then suddenly
[00:25:16] you have that conditional tilt. So it's a cool idea. It's also a very strong lane,
[00:25:21] like laning here against all ranged heroes.
[00:25:23] Ranged heroes like to click you a lot and they generally get pretty low damage,
[00:25:27] so return ends up dealing loads of damage back to them.
[00:25:30] They will still go for it, and I think now you're just patty putting the pango mid from what I understand.
[00:25:35] Yeah, I think pango mid and then sometimes I really like the Sancti-RDF.
[00:25:40] Now let's see if they were to do something different.
[00:25:43] Is there still a really strong mid pick that like dumpsters be involved but still gives you like,
[00:25:49] Because eventually you want to try and kick out the Muerta from her lane in a way where you get to gait on her, maybe collapse.
[00:25:56] So if you can find a mid hero that maybe owns Info and still gives you the movement through the game.
[00:26:01] But I think Pango is that guy. I think Pango does all those things for you.
[00:26:04] I think so too.
[00:26:05] Moving Pango elsewhere and picking another Pango mid is like not, you don't want that.
[00:26:11] I think looking for conditions down the line in the game like he has mentioned is a better approach or some sort of like hard lane counter.
[00:26:17] Because right now I think you got the Necrolane that should be strong, you have the Pangolin that should be strong.
[00:26:21] You potentially are going to set yourself up for three lane wins.
[00:26:24] And if you get that going for yourself and you can snowball off the gold, you have like a nice condition in how to win the game.
[00:26:29] I think trying to set up some sort of like scaling condition is also nice.
[00:26:32] Like with the Suntar, you kind of allow yourself to play through the mid game.
[00:26:36] And they're going to go to Largo instead.
[00:26:39] Okay, so you get Largo. Yeah, it is Largo in the offlane.
[00:26:42] the offline so it's against Venom which is quite annoying for Venom because you
[00:26:46] can dispel a lot of the stuff it's not necessarily here that I was like fully
[00:26:51] looking at I don't really see you like pressing the morata all that much yeah
[00:26:56] like you're cool with the Necrolator I guess you know you can crawl if you have
[00:27:00] like you can get people some armor but even that isn't like incredible I would
[00:27:04] say
[00:27:05] No, I really... I mean, the idea here is to tank through, right?
[00:27:11] You want to try to outlast Navi's damage.
[00:27:14] You want to have so much sustain, so much tank ability that they can't kill you.
[00:27:18] But I feel like it's a harder approach than the Sunflower.
[00:27:20] I feel like the Sunflower was, to me, like the perfect pick.
[00:27:23] This is a pretty free Marta game.
[00:27:26] Like what here is dealing with him in any way?
[00:27:30] Marta's good against him.
[00:27:31] There's very limited magic damage.
[00:27:33] You're good against Pango.
[00:27:34] Like you kind of have to site him or like burst him from full or like you said
[00:27:38] Outlast the fight
[00:27:40] But it's so hard into these heroes. If you really want to take long fights against like invoker at venno
[00:27:45] I mean, it's also a pretty more. Say, you know, like this this he's gonna have some steroids
[00:27:50] Yeah, I could insta kill you if you press go sharp. Yeah
[00:27:54] It's still
[00:27:55] It's unbeatable
[00:27:57] So far he's the best he is the best
[00:28:00] Against moirka before and any of his I don't think it's been played in. I don't think so
[00:28:04] which is shocking. It has been encountered in most games. There's no estate, there's no
[00:28:09] moratorium, and there should have been. I mean, that's just like usually how you pick
[00:28:12] my phone. You try to pick it when you know that the counters are going to not be there.
[00:28:17] But they even didn't ban the Invo. So for whatever reason, I think they feel very confident
[00:28:21] in this. And you know, anything's possible if you, if you believe in my heart.
[00:28:26] He's consistently like 10k gold above the enemy carry. So maybe the idea is that the
[00:28:30] Hero just soaks up so much farm. You legit don't care about counters. I don't know if that's true against their teams
[00:28:37] Maybe that's the feeling. There's some truth to it, but you're still playing Dota 2
[00:28:40] Like why would you choose to play against the strongest counter just because you have a lot of gold?
[00:28:43] I think I agree. It makes sense. This is how they have been winning
[00:28:47] So regardless of what Navi is doing the way they're gonna still try to see if they can make it work
[00:28:52] And we are gonna find out if this macro will still work even when it is up against
[00:28:57] I'm wearing the lesser over to game number one only picks long problem first from the gym partners
[00:29:27] Here we go, game time, ladies and gentlemen, and here, Navi up against playtime.
[00:29:33] This very important series for both of these teams, trying to make it sexually through the road.
[00:29:39] Two things for both of them, come on, let's see how this one goes down.
[00:29:41] We're getting the classic playtime as the panel talks about this wits.
[00:29:45] Necrophos that we've been seeing, time and time again, and he's had some incredible games on it.
[00:29:50] But the thing is, Fogs, if there's a game for it to be tough to play in Necrophos, this might be that game.
[00:29:56] It could be. There's definitely some greed, I would say, on the side of Navi, but if they can't start to hit these timings, their lineup is super strong as it gets to the later stages, and will have killed Thread first to Necrow.
[00:30:06] They have silences. I think, like, Muerta and Invoker are probably two of the best kind of counters on it, on paper.
[00:30:10] It's called it in a way.
[00:30:11] Right? On paper, absolutely. Muerta, for sure, and then the control that comes out from the Invoker, you're probably gonna have to go BKB, which is usually what Necrow wants to do in a lot of games.
[00:30:19] lot of games so I think the idea for me that I'm seeing from playtime is temp up
[00:30:22] right play the game fast get ahead and end the game before Muerta and Invoker
[00:30:26] feel strong enough to actually contest you and I think that's why I kind of like
[00:30:29] the Largo pick you know I mean I was I was agreeing with them with the Centaur
[00:30:33] I think it looks really good but I can see the Largo where it's like you can't
[00:30:36] kill us and we end the game pretty early on and I've seen them get these
[00:30:40] advantages a lot when playtime is playing with wits like this. What kind of
[00:30:44] Largo style do you like is it still the AFK rush that act or is it more kind of
[00:30:49] run around with the team.
[00:30:50] Run with the team, I liked it.
[00:30:51] A lot when we were seeing what 33 was doing it.
[00:30:53] It looks really, really nice.
[00:30:55] And it's a stronger laner
[00:30:56] than I think a lot of people gave it credit for.
[00:30:58] They might have just found first blood at Riddies.
[00:31:01] He's going down.
[00:31:02] Yeah, like honestly, I have this lickability
[00:31:04] so many times, missed like repositioning abilities,
[00:31:06] tend to catch people still off guard, no matter what.
[00:31:09] And it's with a good wing.
[00:31:10] Oh, I mean, got the juice as well.
[00:31:11] He's gonna take quite a hit here.
[00:31:13] My treat.
[00:31:14] And they might just get him as well.
[00:31:15] They were trying to push him back with the dead shot.
[00:31:17] One more hit from Almeysho, he's got it!
[00:31:19] He does not care about dying there, Almeysho gets the big kills, double kill.
[00:31:24] Taking out the carry as well!
[00:31:26] So one thing we talked about about Largo when he first got introduced was one of the strongest things he has with him
[00:31:31] is if he has a high damage 4 position with him.
[00:31:33] Because this hero does absurd damage.
[00:31:35] Right away you see the pressure they can apply with these two, so do like...
[00:31:39] Do like the reasoning that I can see why they wanted to pick this up top.
[00:31:42] He's got another death pulse, Dunstrike does hit though, it brings him incredibly low and
[00:31:49] it's enough to allow them to take him down.
[00:31:52] Beautiful from Niku.
[00:31:53] Usually you don't see it set up like that this early, right?
[00:31:57] Usually those constructs are for the range creeps in particular, so...
[00:32:00] He's on the lookout for those, Niku.
[00:32:02] That's beautiful.
[00:32:03] Have to talk about the matchup too.
[00:32:05] The invoker versus the pango.
[00:32:06] Pango in the past is not incredible.
[00:32:08] Versus most of these invokers, but Niku is an unbelievable laner.
[00:32:11] They're looking good, you would've got five denies on the first few waves.
[00:32:14] Yeah, this guy is such a good laner.
[00:32:16] He's a bit volatile at times, I know when we talk to Quinn a lot about that,
[00:32:18] he can't just sometimes die in some of these matchups, but this guy pushes the laner.
[00:32:25] Overall the lane still should be Marlos, but if Niku just outplays, right,
[00:32:28] that's where he can have an advantage, come in with the Forge Bear kind of place, come in.
[00:32:32] Especially with these Sunstrike opportunities early.
[00:32:35] He's gonna do very nicely.
[00:32:37] And the nice thing is you have this two-pointing claw, so you start to offset the spam that comes in front of Pango.
[00:32:41] They'll catch him out here, able to trap him in the shards.
[00:32:45] Super strong three lanes that playtime has designed themselves for either getting kills or countering.
[00:32:52] PMA will just cut.
[00:32:54] And will that sort of continue that way, like on the top lane? Like PMA doesn't want to play the lane really against these two?
[00:32:59] Absolutely not.
[00:33:00] Just putt and jungle if you can.
[00:33:01] Almost never versus a necrophos and throwing a toss, it's literally like the two hardest counters to an axe in the game.
[00:33:06] Right as you progress later on the snowball as always will be fantastic versus axe. So yeah, just cut wave
[00:33:12] The fastest one of the fastest neutral items
[00:33:15] It isn't the chip vest, but it isn't actually just shield with brawny
[00:33:19] bottom lane
[00:33:21] I'll be sure could he bring ready's down with him. He can
[00:33:24] So getting another chance for a kill this time doesn't have fitting his life. It's got the juice
[00:33:28] He's the perfectly healthy position can remain in the lane
[00:33:32] using these branches not bad time but earlier right using branches for stuns
[00:33:36] you should catch his people off guard did see it come into play before
[00:33:41] yep he may just cutting waves doing neutral so essentially not playing this
[00:33:46] lane not gonna give extra kills to witzen he's gonna get a lot on this axe
[00:33:49] because of this since he does have the neutral item so early too and days I
[00:33:54] guess you just get what you can on the rubik yeah yeah and maybe make some
[00:33:58] Rotations to assist in the shutdown model from getting the bottle to look so we'll see what the option is going to be from these
[00:34:04] They don't want this axe to do this though. So me show. He's like I don't I don't like this. This should not be happening
[00:34:10] He is barely tanking them
[00:34:12] 1250 hp not easy to deal with with two support, but we went coming in touch the tree
[00:34:18] They will be able to slowly but surely find him. Maybe he can bring us go for with us
[00:34:22] He's gonna be out. There's nothing to stop it. He gets out alive PM a big brain the ash legion shield
[00:34:28] also protecting him just enough as soon as those stuns were used he's tanky he is unbelievably tanky
[00:34:34] I'm very nicely played there by PM8
[00:34:39] I'm just mean obviously with that support rotation top Frank's left on his own so
[00:34:45] you're feeling pretty happy here on the moeata
[00:34:47] Micho wanting to get active here daze will be able to stop them we're seeing dark mogo pull
[00:34:53] ahead in this matchup now to be expected versus that invoker 16-6 for niku started to struggle
[00:34:57] a lot here. What are you doing the spawn line if you're franking left on your
[00:35:01] own is kind of rough. To the camps to the 33 camps right start getting those
[00:35:05] going a little here wait for it to push forward as well when it does.
[00:35:10] Yeah being left on his own you got to get what you can and he's not an axe.
[00:35:16] Stacks being made Misha will double stack the neutrals for his pango since he
[00:35:20] did TP mid doesn't want to waste time days pretty much the same thing so
[00:35:23] What will it move?
[00:35:29] And overall for Niku, he has to be careful. The early kill threat much higher on to him on this invoker with the pango
[00:35:35] plus one rotation. When Niku hits six then they can start having kill threat on Mago if he does have the point in the
[00:35:41] Wex. Oh, they're gonna try and get aggressive on the PMA, but Niku
[00:35:45] is going to ask to try it back off.
[00:35:47] He's not making it out of his go field, they'll get him.
[00:35:50] And they go for, ooh, a very aggressive blood grenade.
[00:35:53] They can't go for whips, and they do get the setup on the mid lane.
[00:35:56] And the same time over the mid, yeah, they get the trade there, so...
[00:36:00] How do you find the support kill top?
[00:36:02] Losing their mid laner.
[00:36:03] Misho, he's been doing this, I mean most of these hoodwinks, right?
[00:36:06] They've been incredibly active, always getting kills, highest damage support in the game
[00:36:10] of this early.
[00:36:11] Yeah, right?
[00:36:12] He might have been off a bit more than he could chew this time round.
[00:36:17] Thank you enough.
[00:36:18] I don't think so. He's going down here, PMA.
[00:36:22] Sun's straight.
[00:36:23] Ooh, does get to deny.
[00:36:24] Riddie's looking for the deny to Rosh.
[00:36:26] He will.
[00:36:28] Doc Mago not getting the deny on his buddy,
[00:36:30] and Riddie's getting the deny himself.
[00:36:32] But the axe does go down, PMA, overplaying his hand this time.
[00:36:35] The Necro, the tower is starting to be there.
[00:36:38] Every time he shows up in that lane versus the Tusk and him.
[00:36:48] quite the CS advantage in that mid lane now, really starting to see the struggles of this
[00:36:55] matchup even when the invoker is in the hands of someone. It's very, very strong on the invoker
[00:37:02] as we say, it's not an easy lane to play.
[00:37:04] No, it was by design, right? The Necro vs the Axe, winning the PMA getting a fair bit,
[00:37:08] but yeah, that mid matchup, we're seeing Dark Muggle even trying to snowball with it, making
[00:37:11] a rotation for the wisdom. This looks hard for Navi to contest.
[00:37:16] Yeah, they're just gonna let them down, but they can't do anything about this right now here this early.
[00:37:21] So both Wisdoms going the way of playtime here, 7 minutes.
[00:37:25] They don't feed any kill though, they identify that it's just no way.
[00:37:27] And that's what playtime's lineup is designed to do, right? Get this early advantage out of the lanes.
[00:37:32] Try to press forward for it around Wix with an early relic around that radiance.
[00:37:37] Keeping 3 heroes top too, they want to continue pressuring PMA since they do have Reaper available.
[00:37:42] If you want to scale it of course, because sometimes we do see them skip it if they just sit back and form.
[00:37:53] Navi definitely just wants to hit some creeps, set up these sunstreaks a little more casually.
[00:37:59] If they can slow down the Axis game, it's going to be rather nice, because he's probably going to be one that kind of comes online first out of the three cores, so if they can sort of stop his game early,
[00:38:08] It's gonna be difficult for Navi to show up to much of the plays.
[00:38:12] I mean it feels like PMA is the only one who can make early plays at all in this lineup, right?
[00:38:16] Because the Rubik is very conditional based on what he steals, and it's...
[00:38:19] I mean, of course if he gets a Bushwack it's fantastic, or one of the Pango spells, but yeah.
[00:38:23] Not the easiest, and he is only level 4 as well, so...
[00:38:25] See, a lot of this early game pressure on PMA and Miku, kind of stabilise things for the Moerza.
[00:38:31] Moerza is farming very well.
[00:38:35] Another D... that's a lot of D words.
[00:38:38] It's just gonna be difficult to keep up with wits on the Necrophos. We've seen how fast he can farm very close to having the Relic Gold already.
[00:38:46] That is going to be one of the questions too, right? Yes. I've seen some of these where to have the same pace of fun.
[00:38:51] We stopped to model the other day, have this kind of crazy farm, but not compared to a Necrol.
[00:38:56] Not quite able to get the chance there. A little too far, and even if they did, Navi did have backup. Just in case.
[00:39:04] Got stacks to work on. PMA, we'll be able to...
[00:39:07] Please clear up this, and the ancient stack is gonna be 4x now.
[00:39:16] No stack for you, at least one of them.
[00:39:18] Oh, the other one either, so... okay, either.
[00:39:20] I'm looking for the timing there.
[00:39:22] Niku?
[00:39:24] Quite dangerous in mid, does have the point in wax now, so can't protect himself.
[00:39:29] And they're looking at winch top.
[00:39:31] PMA.
[00:39:32] So they can make a go on him, he's just going to turn, go with the sides, they're going to be able to get the side kill on to Riddie.
[00:39:38] Mark just turned up.
[00:39:39] See what sort of clean up they can find around Boer, so Sunstrike comes in, waits and take it out.
[00:39:44] And Playtime also bought the numbers in, can they punish Boer for this one?
[00:39:48] Oh, Lago not driving the best there.
[00:39:50] Just for catch up, just going for it. They do manage to land the bush whack though, on to go to the juice,
[00:39:54] and be able to drag him back with the lick.
[00:39:56] So we'll ensure that they get the carry for carry trade.
[00:39:59] This matchup is absolutely going to be fantastic with how much these two match each other right the teams are going to fight no matter
[00:40:04] What happens Navi will look for these contests they bring them where it's a but Frank right immediately makes the move as well to match him
[00:40:10] Nice try with the Sun strike. They're not going to connect
[00:40:13] They get what they slow down at least some of that time. He did get the relic beforehand. Okay, so minimum gold lost
[00:40:22] Really like the Frank matches right the second you see them where to turn off you show up on this bar go
[00:40:26] You're able to outnumber it they bring the entire squad
[00:40:34] Arcane rune for Dark Mago as well for the next play and yeah, his rolling thunder was not the best
[00:40:39] I think he hit the statue and then he hit the
[00:40:45] Yeah, he got hit by a couple different things here
[00:40:49] Very time straight though, but they do not get that kill. I don't think if they don't connect it
[00:40:52] Yeah, massive amount of burst to allow.
[00:40:54] Got the juice to finish off Wits here off of the side.
[00:40:58] Big damage to the connection from the Wurther.
[00:41:02] Mid pressure?
[00:41:03] Need to put the meteor hammer.
[00:41:05] Starting to get some great damage on this tower.
[00:41:08] I don't think playtime wants to give this up.
[00:41:12] Oh, Manga, trying to clear out the wave.
[00:41:15] It's dropped low already.
[00:41:17] Washington turning with Stoneman's Washbucket as well, doing a lot of damage to Dark Margot.
[00:41:23] He tries for the side-strike, will connect.
[00:41:26] Riddies, who looked for the burst, but the deafening blast is there, pushes back, starts build, won't be able to save Riddies.
[00:41:31] Riddies goes down, and this time the rolling thunder hits well.
[00:41:34] Thousands in short, but they get both of the kills, keep them off the tower.
[00:41:38] Skullfield, ooh, gets killed off. Can't go for the deny if they'd like to.
[00:41:42] to this issue right sometimes versus that pango even if you're an invoker you're
[00:41:46] getting all these both connections he rolls on you and you're like oh god
[00:41:48] nothing can counter this role at this point for an invoker unless they have
[00:41:52] other heroes to play. I'll go play it really nicely again.
[00:41:57] He's got the money. He does. He needs to be able to get himself a career over to this shot.
[00:42:03] And we'll see that inflation and how Navi's gonna endure. As you said they do
[00:42:09] They have great heroes vs the Necrofos if it gets to the later stages.
[00:42:14] Bring up the juice back up there, try and take away the tier 1 tower.
[00:42:18] Ooh, nice. They're actually stealing some from Whitz here too. Good play from base.
[00:42:25] And I think you can do to slow down this Necrofos since we're playing time.
[00:42:28] Their lineup definitely wants to thrive on being at an advantage in this game.
[00:42:32] They do not want things to slow down too much for where to close in Volker.
[00:42:39] It's pretty big that Navi's able to get these towers, right? Pressuring mid, pressuring top.
[00:42:43] It's them who'll be dictating the objective game right now.
[00:42:50] So far, not seeing playtime really hit buildings.
[00:42:53] They can take fights, but hitting those towers a little more difficult at the moment.
[00:42:57] Yeah, mate.
[00:42:58] Oh, he's in trouble.
[00:43:00] So, if he goes for it...
[00:43:01] He gets the call with the blade mail!
[00:43:02] Actually, he's only able to just take out Wits!
[00:43:04] Well, that went horribly wrong there for playtime!
[00:43:07] Wits just walked into him!
[00:43:08] Oh my goodness. Oh, they might just lose a scofield as well. They just got outplayed. Yeah, that was it
[00:43:15] Don't do that at home kids. I mean they can outplay themselves, but Pierre just walked up and gets the call.
[00:43:21] Alright, takes a double. See on the other side of the map playtime, they're gonna see if they can do something about got the juice
[00:43:27] It's a lot of burst, but backup is on the way. Can they finish the kill?
[00:43:33] Well, they can, but can they now get out the silence and the cold snap on the dart Margot be able to swash Buckle away from the meteor hammer dropping down on him?
[00:43:41] So, he'll
[00:43:43] Might even have a chance to get back in on to Daze
[00:43:45] Daze
[00:43:47] So we get burst down here by the shield crash and the swash buckle so whilst things didn't go too hot top
[00:43:53] The rest of playtime were able to at least make something good happen on the other side of the map
[00:43:56] Yeah, I will say that is a pretty brutal death though. PMA now pretty much has blink dagger at level 11
[00:44:01] He's the highest, he's having the best game I've ever seen on Axe vs. Necrophos.
[00:44:04] That was absolutely insane and happy.
[00:44:06] And that's a lovely shot there, Scofield was up in Trapniku and against the cliff,
[00:44:10] and shows that they get something else.
[00:44:12] So, yeah, they quickly redeemed themselves as a team.
[00:44:15] I believe everything that went down, down, bottom, but yeah, what happened up top?
[00:44:18] We put, we put...
[00:44:20] Yeah, there won't be walking melee range of this Axe again any time soon, I don't know.
[00:44:24] But he's got blink.
[00:44:26] Like, the fact that he has a team, Networth, as a Necrophos, is absolutely ridiculous.
[00:44:31] Wow.
[00:44:32] Yeah, we've not seen this, I don't think, in any of the games where Whitz has played
[00:44:35] the Necrolite.
[00:44:36] No.
[00:44:37] And again, this goes to this, I mean, honestly, I guess in most games, this is an off-laner.
[00:44:41] It's just straight up, this is one of the more farmed off-laners you'll see at 14 minutes.
[00:44:45] Honestly, those type of plays on are like game winning plays.
[00:44:47] Like, that can set them up, actually, for the entire mid-game and now not have to worry
[00:44:51] about play time with that, you know, opening that they have into the game, kind of snowballing
[00:44:54] things.
[00:44:55] There's action on the counter every now.
[00:44:56] Yeah.
[00:44:57] I honestly, that cannot happen in these type of games.
[00:45:03] Let's see, PMA, he's got the tools now with the blink
[00:45:06] and the blade now to really start taking over the game.
[00:45:10] And they've got the Sunstrike combos always, right?
[00:45:12] And he can go agonims this game on Niku
[00:45:14] because you have this hack set up.
[00:45:15] I've seen some of them divert away from it,
[00:45:17] but if we have the set up, we go for it.
[00:45:20] Still feel it.
[00:45:23] So you get Chicky Blink done.
[00:45:25] go for it I've got the juice to take the kill so many threats here at this point
[00:45:31] because of this axe and that's the thing right like this necroforce as we keep
[00:45:36] saying it can die so easy yeah that's basically game when it's this post
[00:45:40] exactly you need like the next two items are you when you shard and then
[00:45:43] probably the wraps and then it's you're still not even the safest in this game
[00:45:46] because there's so much explosive damage that hasn't prepared yeah it's gonna be
[00:45:51] super important that Scofield has the snap all safe right that that's gonna be
[00:45:57] the big timing it has a blink but that that's a long way away right for
[00:46:00] Scofield yeah he is super four yeah so that's not gonna come anytime soon they
[00:46:07] do have the they have their Frank as well too right they can't reposition
[00:46:10] with a leg get him out of the face strikes yeah they do have a couple
[00:46:13] different ways yeah he's bail out so we'll see if they can execute that and
[00:46:19] and PMA still kind of just running around.
[00:46:20] He's really looking for a catch with this blink
[00:46:22] and this play milk.
[00:46:23] His net would pass back needed for a moment.
[00:46:26] Yeah, the Dynagard job avoid.
[00:46:28] Not getting caught out by him being in the jungle.
[00:46:31] Making sure that they can allow it to get that one next to big
[00:46:34] items.
[00:46:35] But your team got the juice.
[00:46:36] He is matching the farm.
[00:46:37] They've been able to go down with it.
[00:46:39] And he'll continue to do so, you know,
[00:46:40] this being a game where he has been
[00:46:42] able to just go for the straight and the older upgrade
[00:46:44] first, rather than having to get some of the other items
[00:46:47] on the side.
[00:46:48] It's going to be very dangerous in the new game too.
[00:46:52] Dark Mago does have blink.
[00:46:55] They want to start getting some objectives to themselves.
[00:46:57] Not the juice, getting gone on.
[00:46:59] Ooh, pushback's not going to hit though.
[00:47:01] That's just a little awkward now.
[00:47:03] You need that initial stun.
[00:47:04] PMA's just going to come in with the call.
[00:47:05] Sunstrike is there, but they still have the numbers playtime.
[00:47:09] So, Sanna was PMA, and this time Witt, he'll have the last laugh.
[00:47:12] Gets the side down onto the axe.
[00:47:14] H-P-M-A out.
[00:47:15] Juice.
[00:47:16] the ultimate hit, Mr. Stanley's grabbing the pierce to veil,
[00:47:19] Mr. Shoot back here against Wisp of the Snowball save,
[00:47:21] comes in clutch from Schofield, the ult comes to an end,
[00:47:25] Wisp cleaning up the double,
[00:47:26] he'll be able to get more here as well as they'll look towards Daze,
[00:47:29] Daze will try and run as the Rubik with the lick on the shards,
[00:47:32] trap him in.
[00:47:34] This is the sort of timing and fight, the play time,
[00:47:37] they were dreaming of here with their draft,
[00:47:39] they're making it work now,
[00:47:40] and they're gonna continue to get kill after kill after kill,
[00:47:44] Riddies also to fold when he's online.
[00:47:47] This is such an insane skirmishing draft.
[00:47:50] With a toss of a plus, a hoodwink in particular,
[00:47:52] the hoodwink rushing the charge super early this game
[00:47:54] to enable widths, that's the snowball
[00:47:56] that they were looking for.
[00:47:57] Aps, PMA, shows up after having that fantastic thing topping.
[00:48:01] I mean, they just healed through it.
[00:48:02] They have so much healing with this Largo.
[00:48:04] As you said, yeah, a bit of an awkward way
[00:48:06] to try and start a fire,
[00:48:07] it's just solo call-ons though, wink.
[00:48:09] Yep.
[00:48:10] And like the design, right,
[00:48:12] that we were talking about with this Largo,
[00:48:13] absolutely seeing how well it functions with this Necro and with this super
[00:48:17] spammy lineup. They have so many cheats felt. It's like an acorn, a bushwhack,
[00:48:21] a snowball, shards, all these low cooldown abilities. Overwhelming Navi.
[00:48:27] No, keep doing this right. This is gonna be sort of the cool now for playtime.
[00:48:32] They just want to keep running at Navi. And perhaps now for Navi, even though
[00:48:36] PMA was a game I feel so strong with this Blink Blade Mail, be careful when
[00:48:39] you're showing up to the 5v5s. You can go for pick-offs, but when it's all of
[00:48:43] PLA time together, you have to be a bit more cautious.
[00:48:46] Juice? He chose himself top. Not the punchin'. He's an addict.
[00:48:51] Got the full combo. That was very impressive positioning from Juice.
[00:48:54] That's a really rough death. This is more entertaining on the map farming. The difference
[00:49:00] between these teams is gonna grow. Navi are starting to hammer his kills.
[00:49:04] They are so impressed. They literally just pull out running at them.
[00:49:08] Avi, not prepared for him.
[00:49:10] Not at all.
[00:49:11] And they might have made that kind of a one-mistake chop play time.
[00:49:14] But since then, they're certainly making it look like
[00:49:17] Narvinv is the one to make the more mistakes this game.
[00:49:20] They're starting to crumble.
[00:49:22] That's really all it was, right?
[00:49:23] Up top, it was a mistake.
[00:49:24] It was a PMA kind of clutch play.
[00:49:25] But now, yeah, back to business.
[00:49:28] He's got the wraps.
[00:49:28] He's got the shard, level 15, playing their lineup.
[00:49:32] Playing that snowball.
[00:49:35] And he actually is queuing up the BKB pretty early.
[00:49:37] I mean, it makes sense.
[00:49:38] Your first Muerta and Invoker, the literal two counters for you, but a BKB hard counter is them.
[00:49:44] I didn't know if he was gonna do it this early, but it does make sense to me in terms of setting tempo and taking these objectives, right?
[00:49:50] If he shows up to BKB at Roche, good luck in testing him on the side of Navi, unless you burst him 100 to 0.
[00:50:01] And Frank, he's gonna always be buffing him up, right? We do have to talk about the croak of genius.
[00:50:05] It's not just this regular Necro game, he's got croak, he's got the hoodwink shard as well too, he's going to be fully buffed up for his allies.
[00:50:16] Has Niku's axe timing looking still pretty decent.
[00:50:20] Three components.
[00:50:23] 20 minutes straight to the Tormenter.
[00:50:25] But first deal with the Sun Strike, but not big time.
[00:50:28] And they're playing this game at least the other way, dancing just in case some axe maybe
[00:50:35] comes in, something along those lines and oh, Frank actually gets huge.
[00:50:41] And do they run down lanes for towers?
[00:50:48] Do they look to rogue?
[00:50:49] What's next on the list there for playtime?
[00:50:50] I think they're going to take any fight possible right now.
[00:50:52] They're going to find a kill here, really.
[00:50:54] He's not going to get the chance to TP out.
[00:50:57] Another one for Wits.
[00:51:00] Starting to get that big snowball gong and 21 minutes can look to contest the wisdom.
[00:51:04] I think they'll contest every objective now at this point.
[00:51:06] They are absolutely feeling that strong.
[00:51:08] Navi, need a bit more time here.
[00:51:11] In particular, the aggs on the invoker, but the BKB is also something they're soon going to have to think about
[00:51:15] because of the crazy amount of magic damage we're seeing from playtime.
[00:51:19] time.
[00:51:20] He's looking pretty dead, which stands up, and VMA is going to get taken out by another
[00:51:38] side at the same time, they're even looking to try and get the catch on a cop to choose,
[00:51:42] as they found him, where's uh...
[00:51:44] He's stuck.
[00:51:45] Oh, this line up, he's exited, it's post-riding.
[00:51:49] My goodness, Navi can't do anything right now.
[00:51:51] Playtime, completely controlling the game, which is getting out of control, and it seems
[00:51:58] like we're very much seeing why he doesn't care if there's these necro-counters in the
[00:52:03] game.
[00:52:04] He'll still happily pick it, you can pick the counters, he doesn't care.
[00:52:08] Little aggressive forward here, can they punish him though?
[00:52:11] It's so hard to kill.
[00:52:13] Is that Misha? She's having a defense.
[00:52:14] Hey, she's turning in. He kills Riddies.
[00:52:16] Now Misha, I should die for this one.
[00:52:18] Can Riddies will live?
[00:52:19] They don't want Wits to disengage here.
[00:52:21] He has BKB already coming on the courier.
[00:52:23] They can't catch up to him.
[00:52:26] Super-aggressive plays.
[00:52:27] Been almost, like, what, seven, eight minutes there?
[00:52:29] Feels like, of playtime just snowballing and getting these passives.
[00:52:32] Yeah, that's all their cores on to dominate.
[00:52:35] And there's out of misanation. So BKB for Wits.
[00:52:38] I guess their lineup, it's okay at doing Roshan, it's just a bit pangolite, it just automatically makes your lineup decent at Roshan with that, plus the tag team, so they could look to threaten that, but I think for them, they just want to fight, fight, fight.
[00:52:53] Navi, with the aggims, finished up on Niku, if PMA can get multi-hero calls, they still can, delete some of these heroes, but there's the saves, right, there absolutely is going to be that from playtime, and they are not that fragile now.
[00:53:04] fragile now. 2000 HP even on the tusk.
[00:53:10] Juice has been slowed down so much too, right? We were saying he was kind of matching the
[00:53:16] Necro for a moment there. Yeah, it's quite a gap now.
[00:53:21] It's going to be hard to recover from this. The pace that Witt is able to farm always
[00:53:25] on this Necro is crazy.
[00:53:27] Dazed.
[00:53:29] Having difficulty controlling the map for themselves.
[00:53:35] They are getting out-farmed, out-pressured into that rush, playtime.
[00:53:39] They're gonna force it.
[00:53:42] Ken Frank's about to have his agonies as well on the Largo.
[00:53:45] All these timings coming together for playtime.
[00:53:48] I mean, what's the combat plan, Marvin?
[00:54:00] Are you looking to sort of just stand up around the delay?
[00:54:02] Can you do a smoke play?
[00:54:05] I'm thinking, what are your BKBs?
[00:54:07] I mean, what are your BKBs?
[00:54:09] Axe and BKB, where?
[00:54:10] Oh, and it's a long ways away.
[00:54:13] Gadaglism almost gets the last round of damage.
[00:54:15] That was close.
[00:54:16] Heads up, Helping.
[00:54:19] Stip has them still, cause those thumb strats are mathy, doesnt' they?
[00:54:21] I was like, those thumb strats are pretty large.
[00:54:28] Yeah, let's see, I feel like Navi, they need to get the BKBs at the least, and just have to be very careful, cause they need to delay this game a bit more,
[00:54:33] so that the Muaritsa can feel good at first with this necrofoast, cause right now,
[00:54:37] Jus, definitely not feeling at that point.
[00:54:39] And for playtime, don't think they'll delay at all, right?
[00:54:44] They're gonna look to run at these tier 2s very soon if they get any catch.
[00:54:48] And days...
[00:54:49] He's been found.
[00:54:51] Nice dodge.
[00:54:53] Make some work a little bit more here.
[00:55:08] BKB, it's done, so PMA.
[00:55:12] That's gonna try and honestly get the pipe as well after that just to do everything he can to help out against his Necrophos.
[00:55:18] Yeah, the thing is the BKB is not the end-all be-all answer of course to for this axe because there is gonna be this toss,
[00:55:23] there's gonna be this no-ball play, even the Largo potentially licking the main target Necrophos or the pango out of the axe also.
[00:55:30] So execution for Navi is quite a bit more difficult than playtime who can honestly they can just run down a lane at this point pretty soon
[00:55:39] Yeah, I'm with these pods too which can just be anywhere in every way
[00:55:43] Yeah, they can set up for kills almost anywhere. Right. I've got the juice shows in a lane
[00:55:48] They can TP with one hero and just the boots to travel to right on top of her
[00:55:52] Once gone and got the juice does just died away. It's probably
[00:55:56] Now me show is looking to set it up at the moment up top
[00:55:59] the juice will be more careful this time around doesn't take past the river too far here
[00:56:03] bottom tower even using the drinking buddies on the catapult with the cliff we'll take care of it
[00:56:12] just not able to defend it at all I think you can maybe threaten high ground
[00:56:18] I would imagine so with all these heals it's tough to see how Navi's damaged
[00:56:22] actually kills wits in particular through an Aegis
[00:56:25] Well, let's see if they do pose that question to Navi.
[00:56:30] Because they are getting pressured on two side lanes as well too, so do they want to respond? I think they might.
[00:56:34] They won't.
[00:56:43] Looking for a fight here on Misho.
[00:56:46] His team is setting up.
[00:56:47] up. Thank you. He's caught. Don't get the bush waxed right away. I'll throw him into
[00:56:54] the scuffle on the shot today. He's gone. That was insanely greedy. Walking up for the
[00:57:01] meteor hammer, not knowing where all of playtime is gone. That's a painful death. Link now
[00:57:10] finished up for scofield. So much easier ways to save versus this act. Yep. Playtime. After
[00:57:15] making that one mistake and then has not made any back to business and back to
[00:57:19] sort of the style and and domination we see him when they've been running these
[00:57:24] lineups around with his necrophos I got it when he has heart that's gonna be
[00:57:30] massive problems for me there already is PMA they're looking for an angle looking
[00:57:34] to catch someone to flood up maybe perhaps beating got the juice here but
[00:57:40] nobody pulling for it though I mean that they're happy to sort of focus on
[00:57:42] getting these tier 2s by looks about on the other two lanes looking like I'm
[00:57:45] Looking to fight around these BKBs though, right? At least the two that they do have finished at the moment.
[00:57:49] Get them where to, at least evolve into something.
[00:57:54] Yeah, playtime.
[00:57:56] Seems to have to read it very nicely. They are pinging, they seem to know where Dark Mago is, but he's also going back to rejoin his team.
[00:58:03] And he's been fast, I do have to give Mago credit this game. The roll up in particular, right? The one in mid lane.
[00:58:08] Yeah, they got calls.
[00:58:09] Super quick.
[00:58:10] Smellfield.
[00:58:11] Maybe they get Smrocfield.
[00:58:13] Maybe he needs that.
[00:58:15] So look, he does have backup coming in to have a power.
[00:58:18] Oh, which cancel?
[00:58:19] Gofield will die.
[00:58:21] Thumbmarker does commit him with the rolling thunder.
[00:58:22] This place used to be a BKB TP out.
[00:58:24] Those filth have got the juice.
[00:58:25] He doesn't want to be around anymore.
[00:58:28] Which cancel are you going to cancel by PMA?
[00:58:30] Have you guys got canceled by PMA now, PMA?
[00:58:32] Oh, the Sun Strike?
[00:58:33] Into the dump?
[00:58:34] They'll take him out the once.
[00:58:35] PMA goes for the TP out.
[00:58:37] We'll get away.
[00:58:37] So let's take the Aegis out of the hands of Wits.
[00:58:41] They get something.
[00:58:42] Get themselves at least a stack.
[00:58:45] Get the lanes now in a better position too. Niko immediately starts shoving mid. They start shoving top with got the juice
[00:58:54] Could have been scarier, but the APMA getting the stop, getting the call onto Witsulit initially when Skullfield was having a TP on top of him
[00:59:03] 8k lead
[00:59:05] For playtime, Poppy, continuing to try to slow things down, getting rid of the Aegis without them letting go for a high ground push
[00:59:11] doing a good job, splitting the map up, not letting playtime set up and just go for these
[00:59:16] pushes.
[00:59:17] Nothing, I'll just slow down a little bit, just a little bit.
[00:59:23] Did they get the gem?
[00:59:24] They did, right?
[00:59:25] Yeah, so I think it was those gofields, no?
[00:59:31] So I think they did actually steal that one.
[00:59:33] That's pretty big.
[00:59:34] In terms of controlling map it's massive.
[00:59:37] Amazing what a fun game.
[00:59:41] Imagine plates aren't...
[00:59:43] Probably not going to be slowed down too much by that.
[00:59:45] No. Maybe wait for the next item.
[00:59:47] He's very close to his heart.
[00:59:49] He's got the heart and I think they had another item on Largo finished up in a second.
[00:59:52] Yeah, the BKB also going to be finished.
[00:59:54] Which is amazing this game, as we were saying.
[00:59:56] Largo doesn't like to play versus this guard too much either.
[00:59:59] The silence can be annoying.
[01:00:01] Navi though, triple BKB timing.
[01:00:03] There we go. Can they find that sort of big jump on either the Necro or the Pango?
[01:00:10] They have to know. At least, information of where the toss is probably necessary.
[01:00:15] Because there's going to be these double potential saves from playtime.
[01:00:21] Viku leading the charge.
[01:00:26] Mishou, we'll get caught.
[01:00:33] I've seen this so many times they get a sharp shooter a lot of times trying to get away
[01:00:40] when it's like a guaranteed death but you get a sharp shooter which is a big deal.
[01:00:45] His burst thing to target is all what Navi's about.
[01:00:47] Yeah that could come in quite a lot of handy when it comes to bursting through the Necropost.
[01:00:51] Yeah.
[01:00:52] With this they're all gonna get a Tormentor to then drop low but they'll be able to finish
[01:00:55] it off.
[01:00:56] Ah Niko gets it for free.
[01:00:59] Does he feel like he needs the Quash Shard this game in order to split plus or is he
[01:01:02] gonna go for the Wex for the fight. They'd be debating. The Wex one definitely has some
[01:01:08] good merits when you're playing with Axe and with Muir to kind of control. We'll see
[01:01:12] which one he doesn't want. Top. I'm gonna find the Axe and they're gonna kill him immediately.
[01:01:17] Oh TP out. We'll be fine. Rolls forward. Tooth. I'm just gonna go fight Charlie for
[01:01:25] Navi to be involved in. Can you get out? She has no TP. Nice BKB. I need a couple seconds
[01:01:31] more comes to an end. Frank's coming to have Niko to try and hold them back.
[01:01:36] I might rather get him with the brawl up to Eastern. Sharp shoot on to Frank, but Frank's tanking.
[01:01:41] Obviously he's got to be careful not to hemorrhage too many kills here. They just use double BKBs, lost their axe.
[01:01:49] Niko's thinking about checking out the situation, but has to be careful.
[01:01:53] Always has to be cautious here, so he'll man the dust.
[01:01:57] You get caught by the slow, so we'll throw the dust down onto Niko.
[01:02:01] Probably okay.
[01:02:02] He did go for the closest charge there, so Dixie, the ghost watch is flying, Riddies!
[01:02:07] He's caught outside of the base.
[01:02:08] Telekinesis though will get him back to safe distance, Niko keeps his back over and he's
[01:02:12] here.
[01:02:13] We've got the juice to try and push back there.
[01:02:14] Look at it Frank!
[01:02:15] The BKB comes up!
[01:02:18] Can they catch anyway?
[01:02:19] PMS trying, but not fast enough.
[01:02:20] Frank's speeding.
[01:02:21] Oh, he turned for a second.
[01:02:22] Can't quite.
[01:02:53] inside of the base he's having to find got the juice again got the juice falling low he's out
[01:02:58] for 80 he doesn't have to buy back the call and the cataclysm will come in to allow them to
[01:03:03] defend the pango but the site's still there down on a pma no pma and no got the juice for about a
[01:03:09] minute each. All right playtime with this lineup they're just so good at the constant chase right
[01:03:14] literally catch one stunner here just persistently chase and got the juice somehow gets caught at
[01:03:19] At the tail end of it, his BKB was coming back up, but gets caught again just because of that persistence from playtime.
[01:03:24] That just seems like an impossible team fight right now.
[01:03:27] They're so tanky. Like they're actually just pretty much full HP while running at you and dealing insane amount of damage.
[01:03:32] The Cataclysm I think actually connects pretty decently onto three or four heroes, but it's just not enough to take on more than one.
[01:03:40] And I'm just walking, got the juice running. Like he literally is trying so hard to get out on this weather, but...
[01:03:45] Yeah, Doc Margot with a clutch chase forwarding.
[01:03:48] Yeah, really nice place in there.
[01:03:51] To find himself straight, on top of got the juice.
[01:03:55] He's set a cataclysm, just decent damage down on towards.
[01:03:58] Doc Margot, so does 11 to bring the pango out.
[01:04:01] But other than that wit, on this necrophos, at this point in the teamfight, they can barely touch it.
[01:04:07] Two-damed tank in the show.
[01:04:09] Getting stalked here by Niku.
[01:04:11] tornado clips nice little play
[01:04:19] they'll get out but okay's cancel his own rolling thunder oopsie might die
[01:04:26] anyway but either way niku does get himself a nice big solo kill has level
[01:04:29] 20 so he's got the triple chaos meteor now
[01:04:35] those solo kills definitely matter in this stuff again she said Navi looking
[01:04:40] to play toward these later stages of the game. Playtime's built with a great advantage.
[01:04:44] Blitzing for Roche.
[01:04:47] Aghanim's now finished up for the Necro as well.
[01:04:49] I mean, can they force the Roche quick enough?
[01:04:51] Did you kill it? Oh my goodness.
[01:04:53] This is a lot of damage indeed.
[01:04:56] No question about it. That Roche is there.
[01:04:58] That's pretty massive.
[01:04:59] Yeah, that is indeed.
[01:05:00] Denying it away from playtime, getting got the juice that's secondary, lively.
[01:05:03] Kind of has these three defensive positions that he can play with now with that.
[01:05:07] Playtime, they're still gonna look to fight though. I don't think they're gonna hesitate even versus Aegis.
[01:05:15] They know that they can have a solid shot of killing him twice.
[01:05:18] Oh my god, if he gets caught here too, no TP of the Aegis. Oh my god.
[01:05:22] Kill him off two times pretty easily.
[01:05:25] Oh dude, can he get out?
[01:05:28] I think so. The team is trying to get out there to help him out.
[01:05:33] ready, Teyza's dealt with round two, the rolling thunder bounces, excellent effort
[01:05:38] done, Margot, still everything else, the BKB and the ult, but they can just keep their
[01:05:41] distance.
[01:05:42] Niko gets a great connection, the support has died on playtime, but it's got the juice
[01:05:47] dead a second time and again they cannot touch wit, trying to headbang him away, but
[01:05:53] he dies then.
[01:05:54] PMA will go for the call, Chateclysm's there, it barely scratches wit at this point, he's
[01:05:59] Level 25, just walking around the team fight, slowly melting them.
[01:06:04] They cannot deal with the necrophos whatsoever.
[01:06:07] And honestly, this Largo pick is genius. It's fitting so beautifully. Frank is playing it super nice too.
[01:06:12] The lick there disengages out of the cataclysms, just slightly to make sure that Dark Mago can survive again.
[01:06:17] Synergy in this line of potency is quite beautiful to watch, how aggressive they can play.
[01:06:22] Niko gets another insane combo, literally evaporates the two supports.
[01:06:26] But that's it, because Juice is so far out of position.
[01:06:31] That was, I mean, that was crazy spot. I forgot the Juice to be in, right?
[01:06:35] Going for a hard camp, with the Aegis.
[01:06:38] Playtime, read it, and punish it.
[01:06:41] To the base, they go!
[01:06:45] Wits with a spare 3k gold in the back.
[01:06:50] Try for some setup.
[01:06:51] It's a nice combo on Wits.
[01:06:54] Will be licked.
[01:06:55] Let's put it at full combo. It's not even half of his HP in that.
[01:06:59] And they're all...
[01:07:00] Oh my gosh, back in ready to create some space with the deep rolling thunder.
[01:07:04] Look at him just running.
[01:07:05] He's charging at Riddies.
[01:07:07] As Riddies, he's dead again. Does have buyback available.
[01:07:12] What is it? This buyback is so fast.
[01:07:14] As well, too, watching them run with the Largo.
[01:07:16] Stop field?
[01:07:17] I mean, what's this ready to get back in there?
[01:07:19] Charges straight back in at them.
[01:07:21] So you've got to just try and fight back.
[01:07:23] back, freeze, transfer down low, get the toss.
[01:07:28] That is the gem again on the floor, so we'll be able to get recovered that, don't end up
[01:07:31] losing their racks, hanging onto the BKBs as well, Niku, starting to push forward again
[01:07:36] here.
[01:07:37] And what does Wich pick up next actually, where does he go from here, he's obviously
[01:07:44] got the axe to the heart.
[01:07:45] I think I've seen him do a lot.
[01:07:46] Even the axe and then what does he like to pick up.
[01:07:48] The question is because he doesn't, like armor is not relevant to this game right, so sometimes
[01:07:51] It's like oh she this feels good, but this he doesn't need armor in this game
[01:07:54] It's a muerta and axe and invoker they kill him through so does he just go some crazy over like crazy aggressive blink?
[01:07:59] I was just I wouldn't mind an overwhelming bling. I think I see a couple players do it fun on the neck, right? Yeah
[01:08:06] Let me think
[01:08:10] When wakers also fantastic do you make that on their teammate? I was saying look, I don't know if he needs the armor
[01:08:16] The AoE is a small magic combo, yeah.
[01:08:19] Yeah.
[01:08:19] I'm not sure.
[01:08:20] Thanks, we'll see.
[01:08:21] Because he's also not doing anything up just yet either, probably debating.
[01:08:26] This is also a fantastic neutral item that they're able to luckily get.
[01:08:30] The Prophet Pendulum, when you're playing versus a Cataclysm team.
[01:08:33] That's gonna be pretty nice to allow them to survive or get these defensive items off.
[01:08:38] And we see the itemization from Frank.
[01:08:39] This was a while ago, but he did pick up an Aeon disc also, just for that burst.
[01:08:45] Did they change the way that one works with Encore? I forgot.
[01:08:48] I know they changed BKB, but I don't think they changed the way the AI just functions,
[01:08:51] where you get the extra duration from it.
[01:08:55] It is quite strong.
[01:08:57] And damage on the bottom side.
[01:09:00] Navi would love that, if they're not gonna have access to it.
[01:09:10] What's very far forward here?
[01:09:12] Get to spend this gold!
[01:09:13] Mm-hmm.
[01:09:15] I'm trying to think like is there a Lincoln's that's valuable in that room, right?
[01:09:20] I'm trying to go down the list of what's the most value.
[01:09:22] I mean maybe Lincoln's could, because if it blocks an instant, it's stable.
[01:09:25] Right, I'm not sure, let's see what he chooses.
[01:09:28] There's four days.
[01:09:29] Oh, he has a gem on him too.
[01:09:32] They're gonna have him shortly, yep.
[01:09:34] Ooh, that blink just in time, he's out!
[01:09:38] He keeps the gem alive.
[01:09:41] Continue to try to stall this game out, play time. They are hunting them all over the place.
[01:09:48] As we said, any fight they can take, they'll look for.
[01:09:53] Got the juice. He did get Conjurer's Catalyst.
[01:09:56] His damage is incredibly high if you can actually get the attacks off. That's the problem.
[01:10:01] A lot of these fights are being, he pops ult or BKB and then he's super immobile and they just move 550 moves in speed away.
[01:10:07] can speed away. Yeah, exactly. All the buffs come out. They're able to kite him. If he
[01:10:12] does get on top of Witz, go for those kind of things with the Stairball.
[01:10:14] Riddies.
[01:10:15] Fall down inside of the base. Quick and easy kill. Another stack. I mean, what's the plan
[01:10:23] going to be then if you're playing against playtime? We're seeing, you know, this game,
[01:10:26] a draft with, you know, paper heroes that should have a decent chance against Necrophos.
[01:10:32] You're still able to do not do it. Do you just have, is this sort of just first ban material
[01:10:36] coming up to it? It might be so.
[01:10:37] They might be getting that point versus just PMS. Me show.
[01:10:42] Eco. Can he play himself out of this? He's very speedy.
[01:10:46] They aren't looking to cut him off. They're looking at Skullfield sprinting across the river.
[01:10:49] Oh yeah, that's pretty speedy as well themselves.
[01:10:51] And they see him because the catalyst is procking with the ghost walk.
[01:10:54] Oh, he juke them!
[01:10:56] Oh, he did!
[01:10:57] Hey!
[01:10:58] They just did a 180 round that!
[01:11:00] That was actually pretty cute.
[01:11:05] Very nice, you done?
[01:11:06] Yeah, and now you may be pushing the lane again right to cut another wave if he wants to
[01:11:10] That's our risky things that is it dies so fast to the ghost walk you just walk into its catalyst
[01:11:14] No, wait, though, so just have some force birds for the month time being
[01:11:20] Okay, go has which showed he hasn't yet. I'm waiting to see I mean he obviously was within he doesn't really need anything
[01:11:25] Oh, he can not alter it too, right? Maybe that's not bad. They just keep the actual author. He's got options. Whatever
[01:11:30] What's what he prefers?
[01:11:32] If he wants to be poorly gets that the rape you know, that's how you that's that's how you throw the game
[01:11:37] I was actually thinking one of those games we use but he's thinking about playing it safe
[01:11:42] He just wants to get the wind waker now
[01:11:43] I think that's the same thing for annoying and you know keeping himself alive, and it's not just about you
[01:11:48] You can save your teammates to although he probably won't know it's all about
[01:11:52] He's the carry. Well, Steve even purchased it that too because they might still be debating. Yeah, I think so
[01:12:02] things slowing down a bit here more growth
[01:12:05] Niku does finish up Octary
[01:12:08] he's all got a Q to get himself but it might be a rapier game for the more ads or not
[01:12:12] I think he needs mobility that's why I see like this flip blink I'm like
[01:12:16] he needs something to get in it to jump a good angle and just
[01:12:19] destroy the necromancer
[01:12:21] yeah because I just some of these fights I'm seeing in me like Paxol
[01:12:23] the axe calls and he's trying to struggle waltzing in there so
[01:12:26] I think I do want to see him get mobility but he's also feeling like he needs to take up
[01:12:30] It's a tough game, even though on paper, right, the Muerta is set up for its success. It's a hard game for him so far, five and eight.
[01:12:36] Hasn't been able to find these angles.
[01:12:40] Playtime with insane amount of control. More items being picked up, Frank. The bloodstone now for him too.
[01:12:47] He's yet to die.
[01:12:50] Yeah, it really did, as you say, sort of bring together the draft having this Lago come in.
[01:12:55] and fits their style yeah I mean maybe that's sort of the the actual the key
[01:13:00] component maybe it's like well we can let the necrophosphory but just don't
[01:13:03] let them have it with the lago there's like the other options the panels on
[01:13:07] memory was the centaur which does have its merits but I feel like Frank yeah
[01:13:11] some of these heels has been pretty clutch versus the timings that maybe
[01:13:13] Navi was gonna hit in a little bit of an early moment because they do have a high
[01:13:17] damage it just there's so much you'll get you should just be a man it's gonna be
[01:13:21] KB2P out of this and that just seems right. I guess you know Lager kind of feels like he does a fair bit of what a sento does
[01:13:28] I'm gonna bet a right. He made a happy buddy pass. He can make you fast. He heals you. It's not on a long ultimate cool down
[01:13:34] And overall first is the way he's doing it. He's giving you all these buffs and he's tanking. Yeah, and first of all he's better
[01:13:39] His abilities and paper are just kind of better, right? The frog stumps are very annoying. Thanks for repositioning
[01:13:44] Oh, yeah, very very much. Just a yeah better sento in this situation this game
[01:13:48] He'll start spending his money, I think he got up to about 11k gold, now he'll start spending it so we'll
[01:13:53] come in for the winmaker as his final piece of the build, Blitz.
[01:13:56] They're looking to wait for that Roche. As you've seen though, Navi can literally walk in and kill it.
[01:14:00] They destroy it. That is one thing Navi do have even though they're behind right now.
[01:14:04] They kill this Roche so much quicker with this Moeta.
[01:14:08] Alright, more timings being hit. Aghanim's now for the Venomancer for the Magic Resist production.
[01:14:12] Big spread.
[01:14:14] Any little thing to buff up Neku so he can get this big impact onto Neku.
[01:14:18] Alright, so with...
[01:14:21] Largo!
[01:14:21] I'm a lot for the combat.
[01:14:23] Frank's gonna be fine.
[01:14:24] Lose a lot of mana!
[01:14:26] But they do have Lotuses.
[01:14:28] Big Lotuses all over the place.
[01:14:29] Hopefully, they might just give it to him and he does.
[01:14:31] And yeah, level 25 for Largo, so those songs, they're gonna be even more powerful.
[01:14:39] Roche, it is up.
[01:14:40] Playtime looking for the tight.
[01:14:44] Good knock if they can find somewhere to sneak here again.
[01:14:48] Would be huge.
[01:14:52] PMA. They're gonna have to set up.
[01:14:55] He has got BKB ready to press. Kated it off. Look at the full lock down he's gone.
[01:14:59] Stealth will put the BKB to back off. Dark Margo leads in with the rolling thunder.
[01:15:02] He's in on top of got the chews. Chase done.
[01:15:05] He's done very nicely with these rolls.
[01:15:07] They'll finally get the chance to get the BKB and the piercer to fail off, but straight away Wittes, Frank, and Dark Margot just back away from the Muerta.
[01:15:14] Got the juice, has to find a way to disengage here too. Playtime's gonna chase him.
[01:15:17] I'm not sure.
[01:15:18] Looking for the setup to allow Wittes to TP over to chase them down, British. He's gonna be the one to get left behind.
[01:15:23] Eagle?
[01:15:24] I wanna check to make sure this TP, he might make it out, he does. TP on time for Wittes, he'll survive.
[01:15:29] And then Harvey, they turn over to Walsh, Dark Margot. PMA comes in with a buyback, blinks down on towards the pango.
[01:15:35] Frank stolen bushwhack over towards the logo as well, Navi
[01:15:38] Look at the setup for more the original bushwhack comes out there from Almecia on towards them
[01:15:43] Holding them back from Frank but Frank will still fall. Juicers getting to hit. Let's see if they can kill Witt
[01:15:47] So I'll try and down but got the juicer Nika. They're still on top of Witts
[01:15:51] He'll get himself up towards the high ground with the wind waker. He'll get away
[01:15:54] Tornado not gonna clip him. Day is trying to get his hands on to Witts
[01:15:58] We'll get the lift up with the telekinesis back in the river scope
[01:16:01] No field dealt with by Got the Juice, but Witz is able to run.
[01:16:04] Dark Lago bought back to protect Witz.
[01:16:06] That was a hell of a chase there from Navi, identifying that they can't go for them.
[01:16:10] Frank was completely out of mana on Lago.
[01:16:12] You just got Roche bit right. Popped that hole in the mire to clean up the Roche.
[01:16:15] Yep.
[01:16:16] Yep, they're going to get the chance to do so here.
[01:16:18] Playtime is going to look to contest very lightly, but can they do it?
[01:16:20] Three versus five.
[01:16:22] He can be cooled down and forgot the Juice.
[01:16:23] Dark Lago is in straight away with the Rolling Thunder.
[01:16:26] But it's a little risky because he did buy back.
[01:16:29] Super tense moment. 10 seconds on BKB forgot the juice.
[01:16:33] I don't know if Bladesome can stop Navi getting destroyed unless they buy back.
[01:16:36] They will. Okay, Frankson with a buy back.
[01:16:38] Wind Waker.
[01:16:39] And they all are here. Look for the call, but they...
[01:16:41] I'm not dodging that with a sharp whitsap, but I move over to the state to your dart, Margot.
[01:16:43] Now coming back in, and Amisho comes in.
[01:16:45] Ripper's back. They've got the lock down into the Reaper.
[01:16:47] That's gonna be the Muay Thai Kong. Got the key. Step for 100.
[01:16:51] Bladesome. They'll strike back hard. They do what they can to stop Navi getting that little bit of a window.
[01:16:57] They take the Roche.
[01:16:58] Through this wind waker came in super clutch, resetting against the secondary reset with the death seeker, and they catch the perfect target.
[01:17:05] This BKB, I think it did come up at the end, but he tried to hesitate, he gets full control, gets reverted.
[01:17:10] They get that Roshan. They have 75 seconds to force the issue with the two.
[01:17:14] Yeah, let's see how much they can get with this.
[01:17:16] Niku instantly ports top, immediately starts shoving the lane.
[01:17:21] So might have to find access through these other lanes. And they get Frank the Aegis.
[01:17:26] I guess he did buy back, right? He did. So it was then a situation of him or Mago. Yeah, I guess Mago feels a little safer because he can roll up, right?
[01:17:35] And he can roll back into the fight with the refresher shard as well, too. True.
[01:17:39] And maybe with values Frank on the lago more than Mago on the pango.
[01:17:43] Yeah, that's right. You know, if the pango dies, it's fine. If the frog dies, I might die.
[01:17:49] True. Yeah, we've got to keep this frog in the game.
[01:17:51] So, Frank, valued a little higher here in these teamfight situations now.
[01:17:56] This game continues to be very, very close though, right?
[01:17:59] He could do anything.
[01:18:00] Oh, Margot and Nosh.
[01:18:02] Get the setup.
[01:18:04] Wait, the base?
[01:18:05] It's gonna get pressured.
[01:18:06] Wait, 20 seconds, though.
[01:18:10] Should at least get one set of racks.
[01:18:11] Oh, that's actually a decent steal there.
[01:18:13] The base is able to get any close to it.
[01:18:15] I mean, not the usual pie, but a nullifier potential on the Rubik
[01:18:18] to go for the full focus, not the win.
[01:18:19] And then why don't you get the chance to get the full racks?
[01:18:22] Well, it's a bit. Got the juicers gonna be back in, so we'll just be the range racks on the top.
[01:18:30] Amp damage up top.
[01:18:36] Refresher should soon on the horizon for Niku too, so the combo...
[01:18:39] Double cap position is pretty crazy if you get the cool setup.
[01:18:42] Even these, all the spells, like the EAPs are starting to add up. We're seeing the mana burn,
[01:18:46] Especially versus Frank and these supports. They are struggling to keep themselves topped off their Skullfield is literally on Lotus Collection duty
[01:18:52] To counter the EMP in a way to throw it on his allies
[01:18:56] Continuing to see him just run around and pick those up
[01:19:02] Holding on Navi they truly are it's a 14 K lead, but it's getting to these later stages where they can fight versus this lead
[01:19:11] As we very much seen a wits he's very much
[01:19:13] kind of you know he's hit the peak of his build there isn't really much for
[01:19:18] and to go towards now he is a full power so if they can start catching up to him
[01:19:26] for us he's not like his extra gold is gonna make too much of a difference as
[01:19:30] the game goes on I'm surprised he's not taking a neutral I keep checking he
[01:19:33] really likes the essence yes yes and string the mystical and he actually has
[01:19:35] the potential for what this mandible or the bottom and then a line and it with
[01:19:40] magic resistance as well too so interesting to see that he is is hanging
[01:19:43] on to this one. I mean how much? Over here is it effectively what the guy shot at sir.
[01:19:50] It is like a 400 burst right? Yeah. So he just really values that. That's interesting.
[01:19:56] He could even just keep the S and bring it to take the other missable or whatever. Margot
[01:20:00] getting on mid-late, Niku. Now to BKBM rod. But the juicer is also forcing himself back.
[01:20:07] Not Margaris, don't get in the connection onto him.
[01:20:10] Trying to poke force either the Pierce to bail or the BKB.
[01:20:14] Not going to be the case.
[01:20:15] Play the cool, then I got the juice.
[01:20:17] He's not panicking.
[01:20:19] Frank, recess back to base.
[01:20:21] There's definitely mana issues.
[01:20:22] Even though he's got so much mana to work with, this EMP is very annoying.
[01:20:33] Anybody to replace the wraps? Right at this point.
[01:20:35] Now he's at his feet, the double refresh, do we see the refresher also on Niku coming out too?
[01:20:43] This game is building up to be something beautiful toward these later stages.
[01:20:46] It is, it's because yeah, the 14k net worth difference is gonna matter less and less as the minutes go by.
[01:20:53] Navi,
[01:20:54] they can absolutely clutch this up.
[01:20:56] Yeah, they're lined up. They land a full combo even on the Necrophos now.
[01:21:00] Now, it's not gonna be easy for Playtime to close this one up, despite the fact that for the majority of the game, they have had Wits be just that much more fun than anyone else in the game.
[01:21:10] Exactly, yeah.
[01:21:11] Navi, this is where they were looking to play until, right? They wanted to go to this 40 plus minute mark with this Muertjen invoker, they've got into it, now let's see if they can execute it versus Playtime, who's still very strong.
[01:21:21] That's my god, that meteor. That's an absurd amount of damage.
[01:21:24] Ooh, look at that!
[01:21:26] He walked along the entire I he literally walked along the whole thing. I've never seen that before I
[01:21:31] Want to see the damage done by
[01:21:36] That's a lot of damage from an invoker
[01:21:39] That's Frank's fault. He literally ran along it
[01:21:43] 85 instances of me
[01:21:47] Maybe maybe that was
[01:21:52] That was pretty funny I gotta be honest
[01:21:56] Well, there's no way just on playtime now and now they have nullifier on PMA and on days so multiple different ways to stop you
[01:22:04] They're the aion disc from parking or the ghost shroud in particular
[01:22:07] They've got the blink as well on got produced so you can now get in position
[01:22:12] They get that set up to provide that extra bit of crazy damage required to take down the necrophos
[01:22:17] Mm-hmm. Definitely not as easy that by any means for playtime to go for any of these ends or any of these team fights
[01:22:22] Yeah, the game's just starting to slow down a little bit too much, potentially, for playtime.
[01:22:26] Mm-hmm. Execution's gonna have to be there from both sides, though, right?
[01:22:29] So, let's see if they can't get these angles.
[01:22:30] Because playtime's execution has been pretty damn good this game, still.
[01:22:36] Right.
[01:22:38] Looking to break the smoke, he's got BKB plus A on disk.
[01:22:40] He'll see Niku.
[01:22:41] Oh, he will.
[01:22:42] Hit the punch.
[01:22:43] The AMAs are gonna try and come over the call. There's no walls there, though.
[01:22:46] We'll be able to get Niku back to safety.
[01:22:47] We'll get the chance to put the BKB in runs.
[01:22:49] Same thing we said for PMA.
[01:22:50] Darmogolo is still going to look to chase and the rolling Thunder over towards PMA is now being separated from the rest of the team
[01:22:57] To PMA will fall he's out now for two minutes
[01:23:01] Hey, let's go field
[01:23:03] Should be alright getting away from got the juice which still trying his best to stay on top of him the shot comes out
[01:23:08] Oh, the hold him in position momentarily. They gave Reaper. Oh, we got the steel did get the steal the meters
[01:23:14] They're running along them a little here again. All right, they'll be okay, but that's a big steal
[01:23:17] Now, as soon as those BKBs are using a defensive posture, it's immediate runaway.
[01:23:22] They have to be able to use these BKBs aggressively to go for kills, and it's late time.
[01:23:26] They were in a perfect spot for that fight.
[01:23:27] It's a quiet some time though, right?
[01:23:29] Nearly 100 seconds without PMA.
[01:23:31] I think he got the creep waves coming in.
[01:23:32] Looks like the myth was kind of getting cut by the forge spirits, so they'll have to
[01:23:36] back off and bring that one in, but should still be time without a look to push on without
[01:23:41] the axe there.
[01:23:42] Juice is bending out.
[01:23:44] Skofield is on the hunt for him too.
[01:23:45] Here's the Veil, comes back up.
[01:23:48] I'm gonna start, I'm gonna stall the side,
[01:23:50] and we'll be able to come into play and take out Schofield.
[01:23:53] For the pushback, for the forces there.
[01:23:55] Keeps him safe. In fact, he's thinking about maybe turning back over to Ward.
[01:23:58] The Necroploster, Refreshers gonna get popped out of BKB,
[01:24:01] Cataclysm Miku drops the two Sunstrights.
[01:24:04] Defending Blasters, World comes in, cleans up Frank.
[01:24:06] They're all the way!
[01:24:07] He'll die as well!
[01:24:09] They're cleaning up there on the defense, Navi.
[01:24:13] They don't need BMAs, they don't need their acts, they're able to do it with the four of them!
[01:24:18] What a play by this infokker.
[01:24:21] I mean the amount of damage he's getting also on these teamfights.
[01:24:24] I need to see it.
[01:24:25] The numbers are gonna look pretty crazy here with how much Niku's doing it.
[01:24:29] A bit of a slower start to the game, but he is absolutely clutching it out right now.
[01:24:34] Holy crap, and they even dodged a lot of the strikes too, right?
[01:24:37] We saw him use Deathseeker, everything else.
[01:24:40] Also, this ban out, we do have to give him the credit too.
[01:24:43] This Aghanooks, this magic amplification on the spells of the Invoker, absolutely adding up, and it's spread.
[01:24:49] You're gonna see how much it's spread back and forth.
[01:24:52] And that, just having the side for the start, right, lovely little play to just get rid of the tusk, get rid of any chances.
[01:24:57] Go field, being able to make such plays to save anyone.
[01:25:01] Hi, this is so beautiful though. Look at this combo from Niku.
[01:25:04] Everything thrown down. Look at them just disintegrate to this meteor.
[01:25:07] damage insane now from the invoker and now people play time I think I've used
[01:25:14] buybacks they aren't got no absolute three buybacks coming out
[01:25:20] now V pushing down the mid and they push fast here with how far I've got the
[01:25:26] juice it dog fog was going in again has to be careful though has a refresher
[01:25:31] for a second role what me he's gonna look to get the calling on a scarf
[01:25:35] We've got so many Riverside to get down on to and let's go for that for two minutes.
[01:25:39] They do not want Wetzel to have to fight back.
[01:25:42] We'll at least be able to hold off on that.
[01:25:44] They're not just continuing.
[01:25:46] Ooh, Niku. He's probably a bit cautious.
[01:25:48] There's just a huge amount of their damage output right now and a massive amount of the control in these two fights.
[01:25:53] Niku has put this team on his back.
[01:25:56] Darmar goes in.
[01:25:58] It's the opening set up.
[01:25:59] All in Thunder, can he keep him permanently locked down now if there's going to be the chance for the PKB and the Ultra come out?
[01:26:04] Got the juice, survived the initial effort to bring him down.
[01:26:08] He could be coming to an end, Piers de Valle also about to end his duration.
[01:26:12] They'll be out of force and back a decent amount away, but Winston's looking to close it upon him.
[01:26:16] Niku?
[01:26:17] They need to keep Got the Juice safe.
[01:26:19] The combo?
[01:26:19] As long as the BKB that calls down a Frank into the cataclysm, bursting the lago down low, they're finished off the frock.
[01:26:27] Patience around Niku to get the combo, and they do get them again.
[01:26:30] Almey sure is sort of just trying to draw them away from the base, because at the moment, playtime, no.
[01:26:34] Now only have the three of them to try and hold here.
[01:26:37] Let's go put out for a minute.
[01:26:39] Crank out for nearly two.
[01:26:40] They're unable to deal with this invoker.
[01:26:42] They're throwing everything out to God.
[01:26:43] The juice Niku is recasting.
[01:26:45] He is chilling in the back as this invoker now.
[01:26:49] Has a full hex coming out too.
[01:26:51] They're going to look to close this out.
[01:26:53] They don't want playtime to get their numbers back together.
[01:27:00] Playtime, can they hold three versus five?
[01:27:02] That's a big creep wave to Niku.
[01:27:04] Dalmugga's gonna start to try.
[01:27:07] The rolling thunders. Taking quite a few hits though.
[01:27:09] Frong got the juice.
[01:27:11] He's starting to go down, Darnado.
[01:27:13] They're kinda catching up to the side though. They had the haste,
[01:27:15] still they had the burst to kill. Got the juice off.
[01:27:17] No, he's still alive. Pops the piece to Vale.
[01:27:19] Turns and shoots down the two of them, the three of them.
[01:27:22] They've done it.
[01:27:23] As they absolutely have, Navi held strong
[01:27:26] through the mid-game, added to the later portion of the game,
[01:27:29] And then they come in with the turnaround and slam down this game one.
[01:27:33] That was an awesome, honestly awesome game from Niku.
[01:27:36] He truly put the team on his back there.
[01:27:38] Yeah, he actually did that big time.
[01:27:39] Got the juice, had to take a bit of a back foot.
[01:27:40] Yes, he's the carry.
[01:27:42] They were putting so much focus onto him there.
[01:27:43] But Niku, these meteor plays, just waiting for patience.
[01:27:47] Even though, as you said, play time leading this whole time.
[01:27:49] They were.
[01:27:50] Couldn't get this place to close things out.
[01:27:52] Little overextensions coming in, perhaps from Skoll Field,
[01:27:55] around the base there where Niku gets that crazy combo.
[01:27:57] But you could feel it.
[01:27:58] You know, Navi, they got to the point they wanted to in this game, and they did execute.
[01:28:02] They really did. They really did.
[01:28:03] That's going to be quite a crushing loss there for playtime because of the fact that they had such a lead.
[01:28:08] Yeah, such a hold. It was around, you know, with his necrophos.
[01:28:12] Yeah, this is the sort of style they love to play, but Navi able to deal with it just in a fashion that other teams have not.
[01:28:18] Absolutely. And look at Niku's damage, right? 75,000.
[01:28:21] Yeah, crazy.
[01:28:22] The highest damage by 20,000 in the game. Absolutely beautiful game for him.
[01:28:26] Yeah, really, really stepped it up towards the end there, really turned into quite the show from an on the invoker and
[01:28:33] Yeah, tough one there for playtime. They had a lot of moments this game, but none of them
[01:28:38] None of the moments enough to actually allow them to close it up
[01:28:42] Because it's the thing I guess when you have a line up like that great at the brawling
[01:28:45] Not necessarily great at hitting the buildings indeed and we we definitely saw that sort of come into play this game game one
[01:28:52] goes to navi ladies and gentlemen
[01:28:54] What a fun first game to this series. This was on hindsight a race against the clock from flicktime and the pressure was definitely on.
[01:29:05] Naughty holding with Niquin's Invoker. Kezu, this was great.
[01:29:09] This was an amazing game because I thought it was going to be very hard for playtime to win and eventually it did turn out to be that way.
[01:29:16] But they played very well in like their early to mid game even towards like them like in the last 10 minutes
[01:29:21] I think is where they really dropped the ball
[01:29:22] But before that with how they played and they lead they had because Navi made plenty of mistakes
[01:29:27] I really thought that play time were eventually gonna have it
[01:29:30] But Navi, Nikus and Voker came in clutch Tamir, Tok Panof on his Rubik came in clutch as well. That's all they needed
[01:29:37] Yeah, I mean I also just I really feel like they time are just missing a
[01:29:42] A stun farm.
[01:29:44] They may be missing.
[01:29:45] I feel like this Largo genuinely set them up for early game grade.
[01:29:48] They got a lot of stuff done and he was effective in a portion of the game where I think they were already strong.
[01:29:53] They didn't need more for that phase of the game.
[01:29:56] They needed a way to close this out.
[01:29:57] And I think like with the cart, this game would have been closable.
[01:30:01] You would have had a way to go up on the high ground.
[01:30:03] You would have had to counter the game poker spells.
[01:30:04] You would have had to counter the Muerta ult.
[01:30:06] And I feel like lacking that just made it impossible in the game.
[01:30:10] and they needed to talk and sit off and play them out and try to keep them in their base.
[01:30:16] So you don't think he was filthy frank in this game then?
[01:30:18] I think he played great. For a while he was filthy frank.
[01:30:21] I have no issues with his gameplay. I think he played fantastically.
[01:30:24] Apart from that meaner it was.
[01:30:26] That was a little bit sad.
[01:30:29] It was awesome.
[01:30:30] It was fun. Everything for the viewers.
[01:30:33] But I agree with this tentor because we talked about it in the draft.
[01:30:37] That's not the main point I always want to make.
[01:30:39] Long said that the Largo was better than me and I wanted to make sure that it was clear that I think that something would have won in the game.
[01:30:45] He's there, he's still there, we can get his reaction.
[01:30:47] He's waving.
[01:30:48] He's happy about that.
[01:30:51] It was a cool game.
[01:30:52] It was a super cool game, I agree.
[01:30:54] So generally, I hear...
[01:30:55] That's what I want to say.
[01:30:56] That's true and a lot of the time, you know, I hear people talk about Schofield and I believe he is a great player.
[01:31:01] But when you get into these moments, you need the individuals also to understand, okay, what do we need and what helps us win the game.
[01:31:07] He ended up having boots of travel.
[01:31:09] BKB and Jules in my opinion if you want to help yourself close out the game against an invoker Muerta
[01:31:14] My brother should end up playing bowling. He should kick people out of the game center like playing plans ads
[01:31:22] We're related
[01:31:24] Yeah, we're actually related. It's actually a secret
[01:31:29] Both of German descent
[01:31:32] Keep it up everyone
[01:31:37] Well either way his item build was trash I don't approve. I don't like it back to you, Adam
[01:31:43] Well, I could say on that flip side the name is even the item. Yes, it is actually we're brothers
[01:31:48] Swedish, but look at our look at this
[01:31:52] Obviously we're brothers you're a catastrophe
[01:31:54] Anyway, the double nullifier across days and PMA acts in Rubik, not really typical nullifier
[01:32:04] heroes, but just showing an understanding of the one guy you have to deal with in this
[01:32:11] game is the Necrophos.
[01:32:13] It's Witt.
[01:32:14] He's the big bad guy.
[01:32:15] I feel like that's what the whole series has been about so far is letting the Necrow
[01:32:19] through and then countering it at that 57 minute, wait, at 57 minute mark.
[01:32:23] Finally, they countered it.
[01:32:25] But honestly, once the BKB comes out and the Heart and Necro feels unkillable,
[01:32:30] you actually have to have not only Moira, who can hit through the Ghost form,
[01:32:36] but then after that, and you disengage and reengage again,
[01:32:39] two Nullifiers, just in case one of these heroes dies or uses a Nullifier on somebody else,
[01:32:43] or he gets saved by a Force Staff or something like that,
[01:32:45] I actually think it's worth it.
[01:32:47] Like, with the power of Necrophos and Witt's playing it, you need to hard counter it like this.
[01:32:51] I wanted to ask you guys on panel though,
[01:32:53] Do you think they're gonna let it through again because I felt like that is not how you want to win a game?
[01:32:57] I mean it it looked very difficult and I thought that maybe before this series because now we play a lot of SD and you saw how
[01:33:03] strong this Necrophos has been and was in this game
[01:33:06] So perhaps if they leave it, I think maybe they need either SD or more to again because this was very difficult
[01:33:12] Which also played it very well. I think well, I would say he had the perfect itemization for what the game required
[01:33:18] So maybe it's just type like a vibes type thing
[01:33:23] I mean, I think genuinely something I've really liked about, so for these two teams, I think after seeing them play once, it's kind of clear where strength and weaknesses are.
[01:33:32] I feel like for Navi, actually their mid game was too spread. They're getting caught off by the tempo that playtime brings, right?
[01:33:39] And I feel like playtime's big advantage is the pacing. But I think, for example, there was cool individual moments from Navi, like I think PMA showed why this axe has such a high win rate for them.
[01:33:49] I think there were a lot of moments, especially like in the early game where he just survives with barely no HP and he like tepees out
[01:33:54] Like yeah, this one was insane. He's like cutting the creep wave
[01:33:58] Could we actually tepees top to get this kill?
[01:34:00] So he's buying space for a safe lane at the same time and then Nekka runs over while his floor is farming a wave and
[01:34:07] He manages to TP out which is just crazy. Also this neutral item is like completely busted
[01:34:12] By the way, cut the tree with tango there too, by the way
[01:34:15] It just clutch plays. I mean this one was also clutch and it does kind of
[01:34:19] Messed up here. He ends up getting like a double kill, which is great
[01:34:22] But yeah, I mean you could tell this guy's comfortable on this hero, right? I feel like he
[01:34:27] He did a really good job on the axe like while they messed up there
[01:34:30] I think the instinct of him to walk in instead of the initial half second of like walking back out in use makes like the complete difference
[01:34:36] Like that play doesn't exist for probably like 80% of other off-laners. So that's just clutch
[01:34:41] Yeah, it's it's confidence despite the early game not going great for some of the other lanes
[01:34:46] You could still see that like he was I mean especially really really like oh and six or something right?
[01:34:51] But you could still see PMAs like now guys
[01:34:53] I got this like and you need a lot of reps on a hero like axe
[01:34:56] I think to to feel like that because you know when you've a position five Venom that's like feeding like this
[01:35:01] You're gonna have the four coming to your lane and like stopping you from cutting
[01:35:04] But he still did it anyway. He thought he could make these plays. It's very cool to see now the
[01:35:09] Play that second half of the game under it was a lot of pressure. Oh, yeah, because it's very important
[01:35:14] This is a very important series for them, of course, because it's the final stop of the E.P.T. and there's a lot of points on the line.
[01:35:21] And this particular series, if Na'Vi win it, they go to EWC.
[01:35:27] There's a lot of pressure because of that fact alone, extra pressure in the game, the fact that they can perform with that.
[01:35:32] That's very cool and important to note, it's no longer in Re-Aff.
[01:35:39] Yeah, we got a new location. We got a new location. Look at playtime and Navi still there still hopeful playtime
[01:35:46] They obviously are a lot of points behind Navi. So for them, they don't just need to win this series
[01:35:51] They also need to win the next series. So a little bit of a longer road, if you will, but for Navi
[01:35:59] There's one more game at this point is they didn't we we
[01:36:02] We indeed what I'm in France. I'm gonna eat a baguette. I'm gonna go to the cafe. I'm gonna smoke one of those long
[01:36:08] cigarettes that has the thing at the you know the Cruella de Vil 101 Dalmatians
[01:36:13] is having and probably see the of the you want to see the Louvre I'm gonna go
[01:36:20] see the rightful tower rightful tower and then go to the see the Mona the
[01:36:26] Mona Simpson and see what that looks like in the la Louvre yeah we can go
[01:36:31] there together it's gonna be such a wonderful time in the city of love they
[01:36:34] Let's see if Navi is going to the Steady of Love.
[01:36:40] One more game, can they do it?
[01:36:42] Are we going to see another necrophos?
[01:36:43] A lot of questions going into game number two, which will happen after another break.
[01:37:04] I
[01:37:34] My eyes are ringing in the rain
[01:37:40] But you're scared when I'm seeing the one
[01:37:47] And I'm in the clouds for you
[01:37:54] For me to love more than him
[01:37:58] For me to love more
[01:38:01] Hold me till I'm gone, hold me till I'm gone
[01:38:11] Hold me till I'm gone, hold me till I'm gone
[01:38:21] Rest in my thoughts, calling to some hope and it's you Needless to say I'm falling and you don't have a clue
[01:38:37] Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh-oh.
[01:38:39] Sons of rats wanna be me, but they'll
[01:38:43] make me lie.
[01:38:45] Look through skies when I'm singing the one I wanna die.
[01:38:52] Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh-oh.
[01:38:57] Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh-oh.
[01:39:01] Hold me till I'm gone Hold me till I'm gone
[01:39:14] Hold me not too far Don't let me go, don't let me go
[01:39:21] Hold me till I'm gone Hold me till I'm gone
[01:39:28] All the night is over, don't let me go
[01:39:32] Don't let me go, let me go
[01:39:41] Don't let me go
[01:39:50] Feet bumpin' off the ground
[01:39:54] It's been a long time since I've felt free
[01:40:02] Let's lift off, keep it up
[01:40:07] Let's turn, step in it
[01:40:11] This is how it ends, we're walking out
[01:40:54] I see the clouds fall in the sky
[01:41:01] Rain down the beach in full swing
[01:41:07] I can't tell you forever now
[01:41:11] We go without a doubt
[01:41:14] I am now
[01:41:16] I will make the king hide now
[01:41:54] You and I, we can touch the sky
[01:42:02] So when we're near the ground, it makes me fly
[01:42:09] And as the clouds hit by, we can turn right time
[01:42:16] I
[01:43:16] Hello, welcome back.
[01:43:17] You're watching Greenlee season 29,
[01:43:19] and we are getting ready for our second series,
[01:43:21] no, first series, second game of the day.
[01:43:25] We have ourselves two teams
[01:43:28] that are really fun when matched up.
[01:43:30] We got absolutely a brawl in the first game.
[01:43:34] I was gonna say first half of the game,
[01:43:35] but it was actually the whole game through.
[01:43:38] Maybe that depended on the draft a little bit.
[01:43:40] Are we gonna talk about that?
[01:43:41] Can I mention something cool?
[01:43:42] Yeah.
[01:43:43] Fogg just told me between the games.
[01:43:44] Yeah.
[01:43:45] This is Veno Man, sir.
[01:43:46] He was there.
[01:43:47] Yeah, he was there.
[01:43:48] He was there.
[01:43:49] And he had a moment where he ulted someone, and he spreads the four heroes, and he spreads
[01:43:53] the best of the four heroes, and he gets a magic damage amp with the meatballs and everything.
[01:43:58] I did not think about that.
[01:43:59] The fight on the top lane!
[01:44:00] Yes, outside the base.
[01:44:01] That's actually a reason.
[01:44:02] That was cool.
[01:44:03] I feel like all of his feeding is forgiven.
[01:44:05] Maybe he made up for it.
[01:44:06] It's made up for it.
[01:44:07] Yeah, it's made up for it.
[01:44:08] Can you translate for me?
[01:44:09] Do you think they're going to go back to the Necro this game, if it's left through?
[01:44:12] Do you think they are going to pick the Necromance one more time?
[01:44:16] Yeah, I think so. The Necromance is very good in this game against the Kez.
[01:44:21] He says they are going to pick Necromance against Kez.
[01:44:23] Yeah, I mean, I was surprised to see Slaughter come out as...
[01:44:27] But it's not a Necro.
[01:44:28] It's not a Necro.
[01:44:29] He's surprised they picked Slaughter.
[01:44:31] Thanks for the translation.
[01:44:32] You're welcome.
[01:44:33] Mine, Bratwurst.
[01:44:34] Okay, relax.
[01:44:35] Why am I here, guys?
[01:44:37] Let's talk about Slaughter versus the Kez.
[01:44:41] Dota 2 on the screen, that's why you're here.
[01:44:44] Jenkins, can you do that too?
[01:44:45] Can I talk about the Dota 2?
[01:44:46] Yeah, we can go ahead and talk about this.
[01:44:48] So the best thing about Kaz is the relics that he gets are really like high impact for him.
[01:44:53] And if you have other heroes with fast relics, you can like combine all your relics together and make like a fast tempo move.
[01:44:58] Yes, I'm talking about relic arena.
[01:45:00] I got that.
[01:45:01] Which I do appreciate, free now, live on Steam.
[01:45:04] Steam will win.
[01:45:04] I would assume this is a, the playtime assumes it's going to be a Kazimd.
[01:45:09] And I would assume that Florida as a counter-kick would do pretty well against most melee heroes like this.
[01:45:15] Well the good thing is you can match him, right? Like if Kez goes mid, you can go mid.
[01:45:19] Because Niko plays, he's the best mid-kez in the world, which also looks like perhaps is the best role for the hero overall.
[01:45:26] Hold up, hold up, hold up. N-Line Prime disagrees with me.
[01:45:29] Oh yeah, but he's a pop player, he ain't here. N-Line Prime, where you at?
[01:45:33] I'm just saying you, at home, somewhere in the world, I'm staying here, I'm staying here, somewhere in the world.
[01:45:38] What are you trying to mean?
[01:45:39] He's watching the stream and he's hard to disagreeing with you right now.
[01:45:42] He's playing Kaz and a pop right now.
[01:45:43] Bogumama is also partially disagreeing with you.
[01:45:46] Well, when they get here, they can talk.
[01:45:48] Damn.
[01:45:49] Popsic?
[01:45:49] Back to you, Jentai.
[01:45:50] A new panel of mergers!
[01:45:55] Now that is Thomas!
[01:45:58] Stop Thomas!
[01:45:59] Another Thomas!
[01:46:00] Another Thomas!
[01:46:02] Another Thomas!
[01:46:04] And he is actually working for himself.
[01:46:07] No, no, this is one of those hidden talents!
[01:46:10] A lot of music talent.
[01:46:11] We never knew they could play the bass!
[01:46:13] That's cool.
[01:46:14] And he's like, you guys need a bassist?
[01:46:16] Can't get covered!
[01:46:18] He definitely looks like he can pull it off.
[01:46:19] Yeah, he looks like a bassist.
[01:46:21] That guy keeps it up.
[01:46:22] He definitely keeps it up.
[01:46:23] He keeps it up for sure.
[01:46:25] That's really cool.
[01:46:26] You know what else is cool?
[01:46:28] What is woodrank?
[01:46:28] Woodrank.
[01:46:29] I think this hero is like right now one of the most well-rounded, stable oscar heroes.
[01:46:34] I think you can pick it almost at any point and it's gonna do its job effectively.
[01:46:38] So as long as you have someone that's kind of enthusiastic about playing the hero,
[01:46:41] I feel like this is one of the best like fill picks and when you're in this position where you have to pick on 13,
[01:46:46] usually you want like a, and they could probably call them casuals,
[01:46:49] just a hero that is always gonna do the same thing. It's kind of the same level of impact,
[01:46:53] you're not really gonna get counterpicked, you'll always be stable, and if I could, it gets just that.
[01:46:57] Super good at laying the slaughter too, if they do want to match the slaughter, it ends up being a cascary,
[01:47:03] Which probably not. Let's just be real. It's Niku. The kid wants to play his mid-tesh.
[01:47:08] Yeah. If you're looking into Slaughter now, I think there's a couple of fights that can come to mind, like Lich, Phoenix, Winter Wyvern.
[01:47:15] I would say it's generally pretty good answers. I mean, not just to Slaughter, but if you think of the hero overall,
[01:47:20] obviously he wants to have other heroes also play off of his amp, which, well, is physical.
[01:47:25] So having any physical negation is pretty nice.
[01:47:28] Yep. And the easy thing is, the reason Lich and Wyver become so easy to play, the Sardar is like,
[01:47:34] he literally tells you, I'm gonna hit Sheaver by marking Sheaver. So you know that's happening,
[01:47:39] you know? And then you just, you just cross shield. And if he decides to hit somebody else,
[01:47:42] well, he's dealing no damage. It's very clear how to play out of it. I would like to not be hit.
[01:47:50] That's fair. That's fair. That's usually the Lich in the games, to be fair.
[01:47:54] For Navi, they actually have not picked Lich so far. It's been more like Phoenix is what
[01:48:00] Reddy's into is flying. So maybe just out of comfort they go for that. But I do agree that
[01:48:06] Lich looks insane here. Throwing a shield onto a kez in a fight. You can just get in there,
[01:48:12] go ham. South American SS. Can't disagree with that. It's good. And it's also the
[01:48:19] My name is ArmoredStrand, he's a DrannyD.
[01:48:21] Why do you guys always do nerd voice when you say minus armor strategy?
[01:48:24] I wasn't here, but I learned this from watching the last Dream League.
[01:48:27] There was some meme going on.
[01:48:28] I was not on the panel.
[01:48:29] I feel like it wasn't a meme though.
[01:48:31] You guys always do this while talking.
[01:48:33] It wasn't a meme.
[01:48:34] I wasn't there when it actually wasn't a meme actually.
[01:48:36] It's real?
[01:48:37] Actually, you guys talk about minus armor strategies a lot.
[01:48:40] Is that maybe because pro players play the minus armor strategy a lot?
[01:48:43] Yeah, right.
[01:48:44] But maybe there's more to it.
[01:48:46] Give us what's the more.
[01:48:47] Well, that's a good question, Kazoo. I'm gonna throw one over to the Jenkins.
[01:48:50] Well, actually, if you have less armor, you take a lot more damage.
[01:48:55] What?
[01:48:55] I don't know if that's more. I feel like that's...
[01:48:57] I feel like you said less for health.
[01:48:59] He did say less by saying less.
[01:49:00] When you have less armor, you take more damage.
[01:49:03] That's a good point, Sheba. Thank you very much.
[01:49:05] Thank you for translating.
[01:49:06] Yes, that was me.
[01:49:07] A lot of translations today.
[01:49:10] All right, so what are we gonna see here from playtime?
[01:49:12] There, the team that has overall elastic.
[01:49:14] Like, this would be, they still have space for Neckroop, they want to, they could play
[01:49:21] Shadow King.
[01:49:23] I think in South American Dota, it is actually illegal, you will be sent to prison, you don't
[01:49:29] let your carry player play the Shadow King.
[01:49:31] Really?
[01:49:32] It's like, yeah, if you're a carry player in South America, you have to play Shadow King.
[01:49:36] It's like, when I was in public in NA, there's always like SF as in every game, it's in
[01:49:41] In every meta, it doesn't matter what time of year it is, winter, summer, it doesn't matter.
[01:49:45] SF is going to be big, and usually they're very, very good at playing around the zero.
[01:49:49] Because I think they're also used to playing with it for such a long time, but it's one
[01:49:52] of those heroes that are so comfortable.
[01:49:54] It's also a very good laning matchup into Underlord.
[01:49:56] I'm a little bit surprised that this Underlord came out this early.
[01:49:59] I feel like there were more clear support picks, like we were talking about.
[01:50:04] And now I feel like he's going to have a little bit of a rough time.
[01:50:06] They've done this in other matchups too, like I don't really know why, but they're big fans
[01:50:10] of like picking two cores within the first three. So I don't know if it's still that
[01:50:15] you still have supports that like cover specific core matches or just because they know, okay,
[01:50:20] you know, the slaughter is enough. I'm going to build maybe, you know, whether it's crimson
[01:50:23] or it's a lotus orb, like, you know, go against physical damage. I'm not quite sure. Because
[01:50:27] I could also just see you double pick your support. You're very chilled. But at least
[01:50:32] what you got on 18 is probably the best pick you could go for.
[01:50:36] That's a very good use.
[01:50:37] That's a bangin' pick.
[01:50:39] When getting an illusion of SF, you steal the minus armor.
[01:50:42] Undying doesn't really do shit, it's terribly...
[01:50:45] You also beat Slaughter and Lane.
[01:50:47] You should do well against Slaughter and Lane.
[01:50:49] You know what count is, minus armor?
[01:50:51] Having a ton of armor.
[01:50:52] Exactly.
[01:50:53] Yeah, and the, like, SF
[01:50:56] means to kill Yasha, Kaia build seems to be kind of dead.
[01:50:59] That's what people would normally do against TB.
[01:51:02] It's like they would just burst him.
[01:51:03] They would kill him with magic damage.
[01:51:05] I think that's more of a mid SF thing these days for sure.
[01:51:09] Yeah, you don't really have the levels the same way, from safe lane.
[01:51:12] Uh, you can do it, but it's just not as effective.
[01:51:17] I would, there's also something that's not right about mid SF in this game, because
[01:51:22] I think Underlord is very good against materials that don't, like as if it's going to run mid
[01:51:26] and raise, you can gait behind him with one bro there, and you just get cooked.
[01:51:30] So I prefer if they still just have a new mid pick on them.
[01:51:34] My brother's school fielding, yes.
[01:51:41] Listening while talking and there's music, it gets hard for my soul.
[01:51:44] Yeah, yeah, I forget that you forget things.
[01:51:48] So Starter? His business is not nice? You don't want to play that, mate?
[01:51:52] I think Starter is fine.
[01:51:54] I think that is nice.
[01:51:55] So you prefer to pick a new offlaner rather than a new mate?
[01:51:57] Yeah, they're banning offlaners.
[01:51:59] I think when you see TB as well, TB is another high armor hero.
[01:52:03] doesn't really love playing into it. Plus he can turn and range, then be a big scary
[01:52:07] boy. So like, I would think the Slaughter is more leaning mid. If Margo is comfortable
[01:52:12] playing it, I think it's more likely a mid Slaughter.
[01:52:15] What's also interesting about these two teams is you can tell like the different identities
[01:52:19] where like, Navi, they're picking for win conditions, right? In the first game they
[01:52:23] did the same thing. They picked the Envo into the pango, even though it's a bad like matchup
[01:52:27] quote unquote, but it's a good game matchup for the overall draft. Here they're doing
[01:52:30] kind of like a similar thing with like they put out the underlord, they see the SDS left
[01:52:34] and now they get the TV. And this way they're actually securing themselves like a win condition
[01:52:38] bound the line. They're saying like we'll weather the storm and we'll let them have
[01:52:42] their lady advantage and we'll try to get to like the late game.
[01:52:46] In playtime they need to find an answer to this TV. This hero in this game is a problem.
[01:52:53] The SD as well, I like it quite a lot I think. I mean it depends whether it goes 4 or 5 because
[01:52:58] Because they have fladed actually on both rolls.
[01:53:00] I would assume that it also would have been a decent laner into Undying, but I would assume
[01:53:04] he's just gonna be the first five.
[01:53:06] His purge is very good in this game, so is his cleanse as well.
[01:53:09] Like no one can get amped in this game, which is very, very nice.
[01:53:11] Actually, you can only cleanse one person.
[01:53:13] There's no one else there?
[01:53:15] No, you said no one can get amped.
[01:53:19] He's on point.
[01:53:20] God, your costume is really evolving you.
[01:53:23] I'm looking at Tide.
[01:53:25] I feel like Tide would be really convenient for the fight.
[01:53:27] you keep it up like it's three melee heroes and it's hard to save against
[01:53:32] I think you mentioned it a few days ago Aiden how like Tide is actually one of
[01:53:36] the best single target burst guys against these save heroes because you
[01:53:39] blink past and then you're also hitting the back line it's a traditional TV
[01:53:43] counter right Tide Hunter like it does a lot of magic damage high burst and you
[01:53:49] know Kez is gonna get in there magic damage high burst that makes a lot of
[01:53:52] sense. Yeah. How do you feel about a Zeus here? Awesome. You just wanted to suggest
[01:53:58] this guy has his Greedio ghost. No, whatever. Yeah, I don't know if you guys don't know
[01:54:02] whatever we say Storm or Zeus. Oh wow. The entire studio is fashions. It's great. Against
[01:54:06] SD. That's interesting. Well, so I was thinking about the stereo. I mean, when you see TP,
[01:54:12] Darkseer does come to mind, but you still have a couple of issues. The nice thing is
[01:54:18] you play with Miss Sardar. Obviously, you want to play with melee guys who go in, you
[01:54:21] Ember starter helps a lot too, but underlord it's kind of like he matches the old undying
[01:54:27] Yeah, like he matches your timings quite well too with like
[01:54:30] His own
[01:54:31] Oras and into sd. It sucks a little bit
[01:54:34] But what I like the playtime is doing is that their mid game is very strong
[01:54:37] And I think that's where they kind of you know, we're striking. I think you're talking to the strings
[01:54:41] Yeah, I agree
[01:54:42] I'm not saying this is something I would have picked but I think if you're a playtime fan
[01:54:45] You're looking at the strap. These are heroes that you want to see complain. Yeah, they're playing dark soon to TV
[01:54:49] I think that's like a nice matchup for them. They have this overwhelming mid game planning where if everything clicks comes together
[01:54:55] They can make it happen and actually think heart high ground is a lot easier for the practice game the last game
[01:54:59] So I kind of like what they are going about the four undying. What does that look like?
[01:55:03] I think school field just plays mainly dude and they'll initial place. Yeah, but they also lane the clock. I think those four okay
[01:55:10] I think I mean undying the top is quite strong like TV is gonna have ultra low HP
[01:55:14] You can just like creep skip together if you want
[01:55:16] I mean, I think either way they have pretty good lanes and I also like what playtime are doing
[01:55:20] But I think even with the darks here this TV will go hand later in the game
[01:55:25] If the game if the game goes lives very easy to play for not like they're definitely
[01:55:29] I might only question mark that is the kezman. I saw Nisha play once and I wasn't impressed
[01:55:33] I know Niku's a lot more this guy will impress but
[01:55:36] He was trying to copy Niku and he failed Niku has done before it's crushed on it before will he crush this game as well
[01:55:43] and take this because we'll always secure their ticket to Paris for EWC.
[01:55:48] We're finding out OD Pixel and Fog are waiting, but first, approach and plan those.
[01:56:43] Here we go, let's jam and gain 2-5 in a very important one, but for these teams and in particular, in this moment, they win this, they go into the World Cup, but a lot of the line here.
[01:57:07] bottom of the line and a trap in a similar functionality to the last game, right?
[01:57:12] If they get to the late game, it looks incredibly strong.
[01:57:14] Playtime looking to set that tempo again.
[01:57:17] And I think overall, they can hit objectives quite a bit easier this time.
[01:57:19] And they can actually scale, right?
[01:57:21] If they do get this advantage like they did last time, they can't scale.
[01:57:24] Of course, Navi want to take it to late game again.
[01:57:26] Well, I was going to fail.
[01:57:27] It's going to fail.
[01:57:29] The tombstone.
[01:57:30] OK.
[01:57:31] It just gets killed.
[01:57:32] Doesn't it?
[01:57:33] I think they'll definitely get the tombstone.
[01:57:35] That's free money.
[01:57:36] They're gonna get him as well. And now he doesn't have to cave through the lane. I
[01:57:40] Hate it that I really hated that
[01:57:43] Dude days is rich. He got the tombstone kill. I think as well as the first one. I also was gonna say this
[01:57:48] I was waiting to set up look at the game for the rubik. This is probably one of the best games
[01:57:53] I've seen he has bush wax slaughter stunts SF abilities undying abilities and even potentially the dark steers
[01:57:58] Which are insane if you do get one of those big steels like the wall
[01:58:01] well, that's um an
[01:58:03] An interesting start to things too because now bottom there's no decay show with
[01:58:07] You know I'll play with a few
[01:58:09] Dices first blood ever you want to drop the no go first blood. No, not even Odota
[01:58:14] You're doing your pubs level one tombstone the first blood effort, but not in a pro game if they were five heroes
[01:58:21] Baiting him like let and then they wrap around while they're going for tombstone hits and then the zombies that's a play
[01:58:26] But if he's just alone that is such a risk because it also it kind of ruins your lane
[01:58:30] Yes, that will still have a pretty good time because he's versus the underlord, but this was
[01:58:35] Okay, whatever. We'll see the poor application. All right
[01:58:38] Don't be bad friends. He's picking up this here other than nobody else to touch him. What's all what's going on here?
[01:58:42] He's very terribly right
[01:58:43] They needed something to be able to scale pressure as well too and it does fit with the functionality of their draft of wanting to hit
[01:58:48] This really strong mid-game timing right so I imagine that's what it is overall and he does like to make his teammates go fast
[01:58:54] right
[01:59:00] Absolutely, it is picked into the Shadow Demon, so the Purge is going to be very effective,
[01:59:04] at least of stopping the target that wants to surge in and out in a lot of situations, but
[01:59:08] yeah, a strong lane versus TB and a good overall matchup. I do miss Neendark's here,
[01:59:12] but the King of Teamfight is like... Oh, bottom lane! It's going to cost Blitz's life there going
[01:59:17] for that kill, but the fact that they get to trade versus ESF is pretty big.
[01:59:25] One for one. Let's go for the least. Able to protect his tombstone this time round.
[01:59:29] But if you get a trade as Rubik Underlord, and it's the SF that you trade for, it is super valuable for Navi to do that every single time.
[01:59:39] Getting rid of some of these souls as well.
[01:59:41] Niko, this mid-match up, I was wondering how this is gonna go.
[01:59:44] Kezardar, amazing versus all Meleys, right?
[01:59:47] But Kezardar has like 13 armor when he's standing next to his mid tower.
[01:59:51] True, true.
[01:59:52] But you should be able to at least sustain through the harass.
[01:59:55] Yeah, Kezardar as the Slardar.
[01:59:57] I think the spotter maybe comes out slightly ahead, but it's different, because you're buying bottle, Niku's not.
[02:00:05] I think Niku can probably handle it, let's say.
[02:00:09] It's just so much armor.
[02:00:10] I can trade pretty decently.
[02:00:12] So anyway, why do we not see...
[02:00:14] Oh, I can't.
[02:00:15] Wits?
[02:00:16] They're gonna have him in the tried and tested combo there.
[02:00:20] Telekinesis Firestorm.
[02:00:22] This can't happen.
[02:00:23] This type of thing is gonna get kind of... kind of rough.
[02:00:25] This really can't happen. You picked this SF and designed to completely destroy the Underlord.
[02:00:29] I think that's why they were saying, I think in Sania said it's a little bit of an earlyish kind of Underlord, but then
[02:00:34] Whatever. The SF is designed to just dominate.
[02:00:37] Oh, he's got to walk down to the lane as well, hasn't he? Yes, still on cooldown.
[02:00:40] Back to back death.
[02:00:41] At least wait for the 10 seconds, maybe we'll just clear up a camp and then TP over.
[02:00:44] And you had mentioned how rich Daze was, right? When you're Rubik and you're this rich, you get Arcane Boots super early and you actually just enable everybody.
[02:00:51] And that's great spam for this lane, right?
[02:00:53] Look where he's standing. You see the posture. Daze is like,
[02:00:55] I think this is one of the best starts I think I've seen for Rubik.
[02:00:59] Well, on the plus side for Witt, he can blame Scofield, bro. He's like level one tombstone, bro.
[02:01:04] I mean, yeah, honestly, I would. I would blame myself, and I lose your play beyond dying, but I
[02:01:10] almost always instantly skill decay, just because you don't get baited. Like, oh, maybe.
[02:01:14] Maybe a level one tombstone for the first blood might work out here.
[02:01:17] Like I said, if they did the bait play with like five heroes while the zombies are building,
[02:01:21] and then that's a play, but that's just him, so.
[02:01:23] Top lane, looks like they're trying to get aggressive
[02:01:25] with the iron shells.
[02:01:27] Good damage.
[02:01:29] Not enough though, and TP does come in from days.
[02:01:31] I mean, Frank took quite a bit of damage himself
[02:01:33] trying to make that move.
[02:01:36] Oh, dude.
[02:01:37] The backhand draft back on have got the juice.
[02:01:38] Got the juice, the iron shells are burning him.
[02:01:40] He won't die.
[02:01:41] Gofield's gonna be here.
[02:01:42] Oh, I say, what's that?
[02:01:43] You're buying?
[02:01:44] He's still alive.
[02:01:45] Wait, what?
[02:01:46] Come on, finish him.
[02:01:47] Okay, there we go.
[02:01:49] They do get their kills, indeed.
[02:01:51] Let's go for it, turning up to make sure that he can help push for all three of them.
[02:01:55] Around that.
[02:01:56] Tooms don't.
[02:01:57] Hoodwink continues to do hoodwink things in every single game.
[02:01:59] I don't think I've seen this hero have a bad game this tournament.
[02:02:01] No.
[02:02:02] Super aggressive play.
[02:02:04] Okay, so I guess that's the play, right?
[02:02:05] Skull feels like just bottom lane's not I've top.
[02:02:07] Not the best, maybe, if I just for round top, because we have such a good try.
[02:02:10] Got him.
[02:02:11] I got another head, Riddies.
[02:02:12] Handshelves.
[02:02:13] Let's go for it, just gonna walk at him.
[02:02:15] Put the iron shell on him.
[02:02:16] That's gonna be Riddies dead and got the juicy...
[02:02:18] It's gonna get harder and harder for him to really stick around this tower now
[02:02:21] And now maybe both carries are just gonna suffer in terms of how they want to play now
[02:02:24] The SF is put into 1v1 versus the underlord though, which is the dream now for wits
[02:02:28] They just have to be careful right if days is around yes days around he's gonna die
[02:02:34] but yeah nice little sort of
[02:02:37] Solution that being found by playtime putting their pressure in onto the top
[02:02:40] Yeah, I feel it able to get a lot more done there as being dying as opposed to boys ever get done down bottom
[02:02:45] Yeah, I like that quite a lot. And Mid was starting to see a little bit more of a lead on Muggles.
[02:02:49] He couldn't have a crush in his backhand. Can he kill him?
[02:02:51] Yeah, he can. He really can. Gofield, he'll say, you know, he'll borrow the kill.
[02:02:55] Okay, and Skullfield say, I mean, I'm owning now. What do you mean?
[02:02:58] He really is. I'm owning!
[02:02:59] That's a three out of three!
[02:03:00] And now there we go. He'll be doing the level on Tombstone again after this one, because, yeah, he's starting to crush it.
[02:03:05] He's got, yep.
[02:03:06] Dying phase boots, too. Very Skullfield-esque.
[02:03:09] Oh, is he gonna go the full phase Echo Axe build?
[02:03:11] No, he's just gonna, it's just casual phase boots to run with your...
[02:03:14] That Echo Saber might be coming out. I've seen it on the in-dying.
[02:03:17] I wouldn't have been able to be funny, but...
[02:03:19] Bottom! Width!
[02:03:20] Look for Width, but look who's here! Scofield!
[02:03:22] He's come around, and Width!
[02:03:24] He's gonna be fine!
[02:03:26] Scofield's actually crushing it.
[02:03:28] Yeah, he's made up for it.
[02:03:29] He's actually dominating.
[02:03:31] He has completely made up for it.
[02:03:32] He really has.
[02:03:33] It's the beginning.
[02:03:34] God, did you want?
[02:03:35] Yeah, God, the juicer's no one here.
[02:03:36] He's gonna kill me.
[02:03:37] Yeah, absolutely.
[02:03:38] Another one.
[02:03:39] Cue that Echo Saber up! Let's go!
[02:03:41] Scofield!
[02:03:42] Oh.
[02:03:43] No creeps to deny himself to.
[02:03:44] I still wish, but uh, you wanna try it?
[02:03:46] Oh, look at that.
[02:03:47] Faceboot actually.
[02:03:48] Faceboot, but yeah, Faceboot's ready to go.
[02:03:50] Scofield, ready to show us how it's done.
[02:03:53] I mean, Scofield is the funniest player ever.
[02:03:55] I love this guy sometimes.
[02:03:56] I hate him in love and sometimes,
[02:03:57] because when you play against him, you absolutely hate him,
[02:03:59] but damn, those are some amazing rotations
[02:04:01] for some of the things, and speak to yourself.
[02:04:02] I mean, the lanes are now amazing.
[02:04:04] Look at this 3K lead, Frank.
[02:04:09] He might be in trouble.
[02:04:12] Is he getting out of this, Frank?
[02:04:14] You know what he is?
[02:04:16] They couldn't hold him in position long enough,
[02:04:18] got the juice, could not get close enough.
[02:04:20] Nice pushback there really from Al-Misha,
[02:04:22] to stop him from getting him ranged.
[02:04:24] Instead of a down, Niku's coming in with a wrap around.
[02:04:26] Frank has 3rds on cooldown,
[02:04:28] but he does have his creeped-by-on shell.
[02:04:30] He's gonna see Niku, so Frank himself should be fine.
[02:04:32] He'll be able to get away from the ult,
[02:04:34] and actually also be able to keep...
[02:04:36] Should take out him, right?
[02:04:38] Yeah, take out.
[02:04:40] Okay, and here's Mago. I mean, yeah, the vacuum's out under the two of them.
[02:04:44] They sort of just forgot that El Misho existed there and tried to TP away
[02:04:48] whilst he was ready to set up a bush block, and now Niko's got to take,
[02:04:51] not only just potentially walk back to base, but that was his TP,
[02:04:54] so then he's going to have to take a long walk back out of the base.
[02:04:57] And Mago is still stalking him. Niko's going to walk right into him.
[02:05:00] Look at the scope, Phil, but...
[02:05:01] Uh, Niko?
[02:05:03] Oh, this just got even rougher for him if he dies here.
[02:05:06] I mean, Mago is now diving the tier two. He's got to start.
[02:05:09] They're gonna kill him, and he's gonna get out with a surge.
[02:05:11] Oh my goodness, that was a very rough few seconds of gameplay there for Niku.
[02:05:16] And even though the lane was pretty even in terms of the cast,
[02:05:19] the rotations that were seen from this far down just look so much easier and better.
[02:05:22] You know, we get to see some of these castes, and he finds another.
[02:05:25] They're getting a lot.
[02:05:26] They're owning.
[02:05:27] And they might be able to dive Gulf of Juicetop.
[02:05:29] Or not.
[02:05:31] I mean, he's not got six.
[02:05:32] There's no cliff. Frank's thinking about it.
[02:05:35] I mean, the team?
[02:05:36] They- this is a t- there's no- did no one's ready to help him!
[02:05:39] Oh my god, Frank is doing it!
[02:05:41] We're only eight minutes in!
[02:05:43] And he's dying like the son of the tier two!
[02:05:45] That's gotta feel rough!
[02:05:46] I think PMA had just hit six.
[02:05:48] He has fiends gate now, but yeah, couldn't make it there in time.
[02:05:51] Playtime. Relentless aggression, like they did last game.
[02:05:54] I'll kill level six as well already at this point.
[02:05:57] Oh my god, I mean...
[02:05:59] Oh, it's Goldfield.
[02:06:02] I'm telling you, he's thinking about it.
[02:06:03] Yep.
[02:06:04] He wants to go right, clickbill.
[02:06:05] Soaring is really nice. I don't think it's a lot of damage.
[02:06:09] I mean, his team's going to give him permission, because he's owning it.
[02:06:13] That'd be funny. Riddies!
[02:06:17] Got the backup this time, El Misto.
[02:06:21] They should at least get the hold. Sorry.
[02:06:23] But Heavy means a lot of rotations. Every single time this
[02:06:27] Dominator came out so early here for Frank 2, he can keep putting pressure onto this
[02:06:31] It's a fantastic start.
[02:06:32] And a very good draft, like we said, if they have this lead to build the claim objectives
[02:06:36] much better than last time, because they have Grosophage, the FASF.
[02:06:39] Frank is just so far.
[02:06:41] He's on this dark scene.
[02:06:42] We don't see dark scene.
[02:06:45] He's turned up with an unpicked hero, and he's absolutely smashing it here in the first nine minutes.
[02:06:51] Some limited stunts for him.
[02:06:53] Yes, there's a pit, there's a lift, but able to just run at the TV here.
[02:06:56] And I've got a mid.
[02:06:58] It's been enough damage.
[02:06:59] It's pretty tanky. It's perfectly fine.
[02:07:01] There's one charge is unfair if you even needed to.
[02:07:03] They're pretty limited on damage with the SD Rubik and Kes Trio until the Kes has more levels and more farm.
[02:07:10] Niku looking for the angle again.
[02:07:12] It's not easy to kill Slardar.
[02:07:14] No, not at all.
[02:07:17] It's not going to happen.
[02:07:19] I've seen Niku dominate on this hero before, but we did see Nisha really struggle out in terms of competitive what he was up against.
[02:07:27] Now this one, he's definitely having these difficulties at least walking into Slardar.
[02:07:30] Skifu wants to set up for the power route.
[02:07:32] Skynes end up being up the topside of the river though.
[02:07:35] Frank's got the creep on him.
[02:07:37] He's going to keep it on top of Daze.
[02:07:40] Daze trying to run.
[02:07:42] Sharp should hit the hip.
[02:07:44] He'll be fine under the tier 2.
[02:07:46] I wanted to quite get to him.
[02:07:47] And Daze, who was so rich, who had that crazy start,
[02:07:50] he still is quite rich, but still hasn't quite hit the 6th.
[02:07:52] And boasts a force on the side of playtime,
[02:07:54] did from all these aggressive moves.
[02:07:56] Dark Mago, half-close to the blink, pretty close to him.
[02:08:01] Skullfield is stronger than Niku right now.
[02:08:03] He's gonna stop bullying me, Kaz.
[02:08:04] Force Niku to back off.
[02:08:09] Skullfield does what Skullfield does.
[02:08:10] Look at him, he's just beating him.
[02:08:13] Oh yeah, they can't fight the undying right now.
[02:08:17] He might kill him, I was gonna say.
[02:08:18] He has high points in the store rip, another hit in the store rip could have potentially
[02:08:21] got him.
[02:08:22] Obviously he needs to slow down this pressure somehow.
[02:08:27] And he said that it's gonna be hard.
[02:08:29] It will be hard.
[02:08:30] With the fact that his mid cares too.
[02:08:32] It can be active, but when you're behind it's very easy to turn up, press all the buttons and just not really do a whole lot of damage.
[02:08:39] You can also just potentially die in a stun.
[02:08:41] He actually could just die in a single stun over and over again in this game versus the hoodwink plus the far door.
[02:08:46] Navi's gonna need a whole lot of time this game.
[02:08:50] And the dark sphere is gonna love that. Every time there's time, any time TV also...
[02:08:54] Yeah, he just...
[02:08:55] He made the illusion and he farms like crazy.
[02:08:58] It's gonna be hard to get the Auras online at good times.
[02:09:00] Breathes into Crimson. It's the plan right now for Frank.
[02:09:04] They were mentioning on panel this. I was hoping to see which actually do this.
[02:09:07] He is doing the Yasakaya build, so the old school counter versus the TeraBlade.
[02:09:11] I mean, we'll see if it works.
[02:09:12] It's what people used to do, because you just blink frankly on their face.
[02:09:16] They're gonna use kills here. They're fine. PMA. Just dive the tower.
[02:09:20] They are really setting the tempo of this game, even much faster than the last time, it's a 7k lead pre-12 minute.
[02:09:27] And he said, but the change up this time is that they do...
[02:09:30] They scale harder.
[02:09:31] Yeah, and they can kill buildings.
[02:09:32] Yes.
[02:09:33] They've got an SF ready to pack in the punch.
[02:09:36] And Winston's very comfortable.
[02:09:39] Even though he had a bit of a tough entry at the start, first two levels, now he's completely back.
[02:09:44] They're just steamrolling this game, Owen.
[02:09:46] And Niku can barely find any sort of place to get the least of Vlad's online.
[02:09:52] It's going to be some time before he has this build ready to go.
[02:09:56] You know, even though it's the build, you know, designed to try and build towards being active as the case, this Vlad's in diagonums.
[02:10:02] It just looks quite underwhelming, in comparison to what Slardar can do with the same net worth, right?
[02:10:06] He can just run in, blink, kill, support quite easily.
[02:10:08] For Niku, he's a thousand HP. He's incredibly fragile.
[02:10:12] Dark Mago is setting water on 2000 HP or so, 1700. Now he has Shield Runes as well.
[02:10:19] Oh, much in scope. Are you thinking about it? I'm telling you.
[02:10:22] Don't cue anything up, you're hacking on us.
[02:10:24] I think Vlad is amazing this game if you want to go down that route.
[02:10:27] Yeah, he's got a boatclaw out, yeah.
[02:10:28] There's also Crimson, but I think Darkseer can go for that.
[02:10:31] He's gonna go for that, yeah.
[02:10:32] There's just, wait, really good option. You can go Holy Lock it on and die, too.
[02:10:35] It's actually fantastic with SoulRip, and that works really well with their draft, too.
[02:10:38] So, it could be something he thinks about.
[02:10:42] This mid game is going to be really hard for Na'Vi to slow down because they don't even have Niku.
[02:10:47] That last game was so clutch on his invoker with how he was able to set tempo, slow down, things down and kite.
[02:10:52] This game he's just a cast.
[02:10:54] I've got the juice. He's not getting a break here. They can kill him so easily.
[02:10:58] Iced coffee was actually just straight up carrying.
[02:11:04] That's a funny level 1 tombstone. Doesn't matter.
[02:11:07] Niku...
[02:11:10] Daze! You wanted to go for the steal, but...
[02:11:13] ...ends up getting nothing and losing his life!
[02:11:15] There's no fragile.
[02:11:17] Everyone on their lineup now at this point.
[02:11:19] Niku, trying to get them off the tower to just go field hot on the chase.
[02:11:23] I mean, they're all running at him.
[02:11:25] I don't know if Niku can get away from this.
[02:11:29] Stay on literally just running at him. Dark Magal has blink.
[02:11:32] Addie said, get the crush!
[02:11:34] Don't have detection on the front lines out now. They're saying she's dropped down though. They'll see
[02:11:38] I'm up with the solar insane burst damage
[02:11:43] Has it Matthew usually you don't have it this high level he just the fact that he's level eight on scope fields
[02:11:48] It's insane burst damage. This is literally some of the best and we don't see a lot of it
[02:11:53] It's the best and I can't believe one of the best that I've ever seen in a long time after he gave level one
[02:11:57] It's not it's the most comical fashion, but then he was like, ah
[02:12:01] I was just kidding. Let's go. And he's just completely owning the game.
[02:12:06] And he is queuing up Holy Locket, so...
[02:12:08] It is. It's really good, Owen. It's insanely...
[02:12:10] Look at this pile.
[02:12:11] He's having a great time. He is absolutely loving it.
[02:12:16] Because I wonder how this... I mean, it's just so funny, right?
[02:12:18] Because I wonder how the beginning...
[02:12:19] They probably had a laugh about that.
[02:12:20] They probably went, oh, whoopsie.
[02:12:22] And then, oh, now we're amazing.
[02:12:23] They were probably having a laugh about that.
[02:12:26] Nice goal field.
[02:12:28] What a gamer.
[02:12:31] He's got Niku here to help out. Okay backup comes in this time. They're in on top of Skowfield.
[02:12:36] They're pretty undying.
[02:12:37] Wall's down though. Pretty good one.
[02:12:39] Oh no, they're pretty much the three of them there with the illusions.
[02:12:42] See Darmago coming with a crush. Niku tries to hold his ground with the ultimator. He's slowly dying.
[02:12:47] Wich is here.
[02:12:49] So they go up Skowfield.
[02:12:51] But he's back because he's a zombie.
[02:12:53] He's the third.
[02:12:54] Immediately back out on the map and they can't even keep the pressure on you.
[02:12:56] You can see Darmago already looking for further dives. Nearly five days.
[02:13:00] Oh my goodness, so close.
[02:13:01] They're gonna get it.
[02:13:02] Brace is there from Witt.
[02:13:05] Yeah, this is a lot better compared to the Kess.
[02:13:07] Looks much better to play around.
[02:13:09] And look at this again, Ayn Stofield.
[02:13:10] He tanks a lot of it though, right?
[02:13:12] He has to get the Thunder on it, and then he just respawns instantly.
[02:13:14] This was a stolen two stone as well in the fight.
[02:13:17] That's a very nice wall down in the middle.
[02:13:19] That catches all three of them.
[02:13:20] PMA days of Niko.
[02:13:22] And Geniko just not at a point really where he can Kess it up.
[02:13:26] Mm-hmm
[02:13:29] He is I thought all fall so far behind on the supports are about to surpass them as well as you said days having a good time
[02:13:35] But that is pretty much it for his team
[02:13:38] Everyone else having a miserable one split them legitimately running at them down your post. Yeah
[02:13:42] One more team fight there will be ahead of an ecu and you go back to die if you get caught up here
[02:13:47] Okay
[02:13:49] We're all right.
[02:13:51] At this time, look for Dark Margo.
[02:13:53] Do you mind if you catch him under the tower?
[02:13:55] That's a good catch.
[02:13:58] Finally get something going their way onto a core.
[02:14:04] PMA does have the ATOS. This is going to be the biggest thing that they can play around.
[02:14:07] Spill some limited damage, but if they can keep them in the pit, I mean, Firestorm is by far their only damage right now.
[02:14:12] It feels like on the side of Malvi.
[02:14:14] So if they can utilize that...
[02:14:16] But it's just one kill on Mago under a tier 2.
[02:14:19] Playtime, back to business.
[02:14:27] Now Misha just keep in me for one of his toes.
[02:14:30] Yeah, pushing tier 2 pre-17 minutes.
[02:14:33] There's just that projectives.
[02:14:35] Hitting buildings in particular.
[02:14:37] Last game they had zero building hitters.
[02:14:39] This one they have a very clear one.
[02:14:41] I don't think we've followed the games where, at least us personally, right, the games where
[02:15:04] Navi's had the Midcash, but I've heard great things from him.
[02:15:07] They have had good success with this.
[02:15:10] Uh-oh, Juice.
[02:15:12] He's kind of dying to his own illusion here, and he will die.
[02:15:15] Frank gets him.
[02:15:16] This was looking miserable.
[02:15:17] I just love it.
[02:15:18] Almost irrecoverable.
[02:15:19] Last game, they did turn around quite a game.
[02:15:22] They did.
[02:15:22] Navi.
[02:15:23] But they had a really strong-
[02:15:24] They had a lot around this.
[02:15:25] If...
[02:15:27] No, we saw, as you say.
[02:15:29] He could really clutch it up in the last game.
[02:15:31] He did.
[02:15:31] If he's able to do that this game,
[02:15:33] We just got to remember this point. He is currently the same farm as supports of playtime.
[02:15:39] Yeah.
[02:15:39] So if in 40 minutes, Navi make a comeback, individually, that would be probably one of the bigger comebacks you'll ever see.
[02:15:47] It really would be. Frank, they've gone for him.
[02:15:49] Let's see if they can get him. Oh, oh.
[02:15:51] He's back to monitor the three of them.
[02:15:52] He could look at the ults off.
[02:15:54] He's ready to go charging over towards them.
[02:15:56] Scott builds onto PMA. We'll see that TPL from Reddy's would be successful.
[02:16:01] Sculpio's shield is off his Cuddy.
[02:16:02] Niko's gonna get back in on this, Niko's gonna try with the Echo Slashes onto Wittz.
[02:16:05] They're gonna commit here to bring down the SF, but the search is there.
[02:16:08] Wittz is gonna get away, and Frank's burning Niko down with the Ion Show Damage.
[02:16:13] Niko's gonna be dead again, double kill for Frank.
[02:16:17] Sculpio actually bought 4 staff, ends up getting that onto Frank in the position.
[02:16:21] Frank gets a level up in the middle of the fight, ends up putting him back into an HP threshold.
[02:16:25] Well, he will not die.
[02:16:26] Navi, they brought everybody to go for this fight.
[02:16:28] Don't really get much of anything.
[02:16:31] Objectives much easier for the side of playtime and which get the build right
[02:16:37] he's doing blink dash a coyote going BKB really cool to save and he's not
[02:16:42] but he's not both committing to the spellcaster thing so it is that build
[02:16:44] that we saw what pure kind of popularized as that SF still going for the
[02:16:49] right click build. There we go. In the game Jace. On wits.
[02:16:54] Pre-20 minutes so they can move down towards the bottom if they want to
[02:16:58] I'm trying to set up the Torments for 30 seconds as well.
[02:17:04] And yeah, the Kez is literally gonna be behind the undying and the hoodwinks soon.
[02:17:09] A rough one.
[02:17:10] Well, you know what?
[02:17:11] Maybe that's distract, you know?
[02:17:13] Maybe mid Kez don't work, so let's try support Kez instead.
[02:17:15] That's the route we're going here.
[02:17:17] It's a rough life here for Niko.
[02:17:19] It really is.
[02:17:20] After such a damn good game, give me the first one, right?
[02:17:22] This one just...
[02:17:23] But is there maybe the combat?
[02:17:25] Maybe?
[02:17:25] Hit it on his invoker.
[02:17:26] This one is a lot harder.
[02:17:27] It's infinitely harder to make a comeback from this position as a Kez.
[02:17:32] Especially with the draft that they're up against.
[02:17:33] Yeah.
[02:17:33] They have all the Oris.
[02:17:34] Exactly.
[02:17:35] You're being a Kez, into this...
[02:17:37] Like, you're just not gonna do any damage.
[02:17:39] No.
[02:17:40] They have all the Oris.
[02:17:40] They have a heal coming in from the Undying as well, too.
[02:17:46] Playtime's been very fun to watch this tournament.
[02:17:49] How they kind of set tempo and...
[02:17:50] I feel like in all their games, right?
[02:17:51] I feel like they're always the ones kind of just leading the charge,
[02:17:54] trying to make the move.
[02:17:55] Sometimes maybe it doesn't work,
[02:17:56] but they're always super aggressive.
[02:17:59] And Skullfield, he gets a pretty good one, right?
[02:18:02] He gets the shard for himself, so if they can,
[02:18:05] try to full focus fire a target on Navi now,
[02:18:07] might just get put inside that Tombstone as well.
[02:18:09] Oh yeah.
[02:18:10] And they are all about focusing that one target
[02:18:12] as they're staying Navi,
[02:18:13] not really having too much threat damage.
[02:18:16] You can't, you can't grief at the Tombstone.
[02:18:19] I mean, just fun though, it doesn't kill, it's not Phoenix.
[02:18:21] I'm about to tell the kind of annoying, right?
[02:18:23] Yeah.
[02:18:24] But they can jump out of it also. Only after 2 seconds.
[02:18:30] So if you kill the team super quick, they won't get the chance to jump back down.
[02:18:33] Yes.
[02:18:34] So you can grief your team.
[02:18:36] But it's nothing. The Phoenix point is always like, oh god, when you see that axe, you make grief.
[02:18:43] Another tier 2. Playtime. Really accelerating things this game.
[02:18:47] And that pipe done, the Crimson's doing for Frank, he doesn't need to deviate into anything
[02:18:51] odd, just needs to play these auras, eventually can go for the agonims, blinks, etc.
[02:18:56] And that's the thing right, cause he was going to get the Crimson first, but then I
[02:18:58] imagine he's just looking at the Kez and the Taric Blades up, they do nothing.
[02:19:01] We actually care less about that type of damage, so let's get the pipe online first, and then
[02:19:04] we'll go out for the Crimson.
[02:19:05] I mean the only damage on Navi, I'm not kidding, it's actually just like a firestorm.
[02:19:08] It ends the rubik, it ends the rubik, it ends the rubik, it ends the rubik, it ends the rubik,
[02:19:09] it ends the rubik, it ends the rubik, it ends the rubik, it ends the rubik, it ends the rubik,
[02:19:10] If they can protect against that, they're probably gonna be fine.
[02:19:14] Round here, they're gonna find the backlines first.
[02:19:16] They get ready.
[02:19:17] FACCULATED!
[02:19:18] They're gonna find them!
[02:19:19] Into the Reckliam!
[02:19:20] They might call it.
[02:19:21] I don't know how much more they're gonna want to play this one.
[02:19:23] Oh, it's the kill.
[02:19:24] That was still there from Daze.
[02:19:25] And that's a big kill.
[02:19:26] They did kill for you.
[02:19:27] So you know what?
[02:19:28] They're not gonna call it.
[02:19:29] They're gonna play on apps.
[02:19:31] Oh, they're gonna start getting dove though.
[02:19:36] And we're getting dangerous from close to the fountain.
[02:19:39] Daze is gonna die IN THE FOUNTAIN!
[02:19:43] So, Tier 2!
[02:19:44] They'll play on, but the planning on is not gonna be fun.
[02:19:46] No, it's gonna hurt.
[02:19:47] It really is.
[02:19:49] You can see playtime, they're not afraid of anything there.
[02:19:51] Again, just walking through everyone a beautiful back wall.
[02:19:55] Daze at least gets to be flashy.
[02:20:00] Get the backup.
[02:20:02] Still have the SF with the Sages.
[02:20:09] You kind of just have to hope that playtime over extends massively.
[02:20:17] It's not in the case of this game.
[02:20:22] Playtime might just go for high ground push here too.
[02:20:26] Maybe go for a kill first.
[02:20:27] They do have all these auras, they have this SF.
[02:20:30] Looks like they want to just hunt.
[02:20:34] Don't let the TV get outside.
[02:20:36] ATB's back, he's too scared.
[02:20:40] I'll be not able to do what they did in that last game in terms of lane pressure either.
[02:20:46] Last time they were keeping these lanes constantly shoved, it was just much more difficult by
[02:20:49] design versus the Darkseer iron shells as well.
[02:20:52] Yeah, they're getting trapped in their base already.
[02:20:55] 20 minutes in.
[02:20:57] Chatwheel's starting to come out, of course.
[02:21:03] Niku, how's the axe timing? So, he is getting close to it.
[02:21:06] He is close.
[02:21:07] See if that can change a teamfight.
[02:21:15] My Crimson's gonna be out also.
[02:21:16] He's gonna have literally all the Ornn's down at this point.
[02:21:18] They're just gonna do my damage.
[02:21:19] Yep.
[02:21:22] See if they can get the perfect setup.
[02:21:24] I don't know what it looks like, but let's see if they can get it on the side of Navi.
[02:21:27] Blink Dagger, on El Miso by the way, a really cool build when you're playing with the darks here, right?
[02:21:36] You have that follow up, they have Blinks, Thonet, Blink Vacuum, three different ways.
[02:21:48] Ages will get reclaimed, a bit more time, at least for Niko to finish up that agonist.
[02:21:53] back in him. DocMago seems to know where he is though, he is throwing the line and looking
[02:21:58] for him.
[02:22:03] Niku?
[02:22:07] I need to be out of time.
[02:22:08] Oh, is he gonna guess?
[02:22:12] Alright, he's got his axe. So at least he does have his one item, finished up here.
[02:22:17] Let's see how much he can do as we set into all these oras.
[02:22:23] Can they catch a playtime ever split up? Not really, it doesn't seem.
[02:22:27] I've been watching them like, can they ever use Beansgate to catch anything?
[02:22:29] They're gonna try here with Niku's timing.
[02:22:31] And I think the most important thing is catching playtime when they're not all together.
[02:22:38] Frank?
[02:22:46] All in in this dark here. I'm like looking at the HP. I'm like, I don't think they can all in him.
[02:22:53] it's gonna be difficult especially if you have any backup behind him you could
[02:22:58] just get set up for a multi-hero vacuum gun. I feel like you just kind of bait it.
[02:23:03] Yeah, I feel like you kind of have to go for the SF.
[02:23:15] It's like time giving no mercy. Has he cured up the next item yet for Frank? It's
[02:23:20] It's going to be Sheeva, so another one to throw on top of everything.
[02:23:23] It's going to come pretty quickly, too, with the way they're controlling the map.
[02:23:26] Which is nobody really able to get outside and farm on Na'Vi, so Lee just continues
[02:23:31] to grow and grow and grow.
[02:23:32] And I wonder if this has got the potential to maybe start a bit of a trend, right?
[02:23:38] I feel like watching this Darksea game, it's looking pretty fantastic.
[02:23:42] And it's again sourcing this Terrablade.
[02:23:44] Yeah, that's the big thing.
[02:23:45] It's being a lot of Terrablade.
[02:23:46] There's a lot of players at Dream League that are pretty good on the old Darkseer, so...
[02:23:50] If there's a chance we might see more of it, if this continues to do as well as it has there in this game?
[02:23:55] If we see Tower Blades picked up and there's a 24 picked Darkseer...
[02:23:58] You think it has to kind of be in that situation?
[02:24:00] I don't think you can really rush Darkseer in a lot of these situations.
[02:24:07] It does look good with them.
[02:24:08] It looks really good with the play.
[02:24:09] At the least right, it's going to get their playtime, or rather win this game in the series and move forward.
[02:24:13] It will give teams someone to think about when they're picking or thinking about picking terribly against play time
[02:24:18] because clearly play time they have a
[02:24:21] Pretty good stride against the TVs and it's been an old-school counter for a long time right?
[02:24:27] Playing it to perfection on Frank so far
[02:24:31] Jump forward Nico go some pretty good control there between the bashing and crushes. I should tell him I'm a fucking early BKB there
[02:24:38] Yeah.
[02:24:39] Can he go hide?
[02:24:40] He will.
[02:24:41] A very early BKB from Dark Mago.
[02:24:43] Might as well just get Daze.
[02:24:45] Well, he's got money to get out.
[02:24:46] Well, let's not, Mago.
[02:24:47] I've got him.
[02:24:51] It's a very early BKB though from Dark Mago.
[02:24:56] PMA, trying to split push as much as possible,
[02:24:58] get a BKB for the Underlord.
[02:25:01] It feels as well like, you know, the BKB,
[02:25:05] you don't have to be too kind of trigger happy
[02:25:07] with it this game right because it's not like my loads of chains exactly that's
[02:25:10] what I was I wonder what I think he was maybe trying to pop losing his illusion
[02:25:13] I don't know either way oh that's true you might have been trying to I must get
[02:25:16] that out instead yeah it was very very early that he used to be a man has been
[02:25:21] caught very good
[02:25:28] one for dark Marga and the same time it's looking around the mid area and fight
[02:25:34] damage rune as well, ready for playtime. Navi trying to do anything they can to split playtime up, but can't go for wits here.
[02:25:41] Did potentially have to set up if they got the disrupt. Still not easy though, Skullfield in the area.
[02:25:49] Amp damage bottom. Rosh respawning very soon. That's probably where playtime looks to push for that high ground.
[02:25:56] Potentially close the game out. 22,000 lead at 28 minutes is absurd.
[02:26:00] How's that timing forgot the juice threat we always talk about the Scotty for the TB
[02:26:07] But he is very behind into all these or is so Scotty will slow heroes, but the damage is gonna take a long time to dish out
[02:26:24] Roaches up
[02:26:26] He has to save BKB for the pit. He does have it, not the ready. Frank? We'll put his creep
[02:26:43] on the high ground. Nice little sneaky ward. Just kidding, Skullfield says. Get it down
[02:26:47] there. And rushes up. They haven't scouted it yet though. Let's go field I imagine. He's
[02:26:56] the one that's gonna go do so. And not be fighting out there. Not really possible. Metta
[02:27:03] on cooldown as well. Oh, Roshiku! Come on guys, got the catch on sweat. Spell it and run.
[02:27:12] When he hide, does juke the dust, juke the gem.
[02:27:25] They're trying to hide. Dark Mago is looking for the hunt.
[02:27:28] I know Dacia's around. Let's go on him.
[02:27:33] Heroes just evaporate versus Lion Apprento.
[02:27:37] There's the hunt by Dark Mago.
[02:27:39] Immediately TP's when he sees the hero, he has the amp damage.
[02:27:43] See who we can find up here.
[02:27:45] Once the Underlord, and he'll find him.
[02:27:47] Yeah, mate.
[02:27:49] He's very good.
[02:27:49] Anyway, yeah, we'll put the BKB here so he doesn't get held back.
[02:27:52] Essentially, Stullo killed.
[02:27:53] Witz comes in and claims that the battle is done.
[02:27:55] Maw goes kill.
[02:27:57] Niku, I've been trying to split up as much as you can.
[02:27:58] You can see it the way there's nobby's point.
[02:28:00] Like, we cannot take fights.
[02:28:03] It's tricky to find, though.
[02:28:04] Mm-hmm.
[02:28:05] None of this, Kaz.
[02:28:06] He is sneaky.
[02:28:07] It's time I'm getting away with the Vail.
[02:28:08] They're delaying the Roshan, right?
[02:28:10] With all these little constant plays that they're going to split up, but they'll kill it so fast when they do get into that pit.
[02:28:16] Level 20 is here for the Shadow Fiend. It's got the Necromastery souls.
[02:28:25] Now you just have to hope for the high ground.
[02:28:28] Hope there's an overextension, a couple massive overextensions in particular for the TV to be able to turn that damage out.
[02:28:33] He does have his one damage item now too, so has the crystalist, has the scottie.
[02:28:49] Group up, now onto the south lane.
[02:28:52] Ready to set up that push for sure.
[02:28:54] Witch is close to a satanic as well too, so maybe they might just wait for that to be as safe as possible.
[02:29:03] But with this Aegis, can absolutely go for that stage now at this point.
[02:29:07] Niku?
[02:29:08] Careful.
[02:29:15] Here we go.
[02:29:17] How do they stop this push?
[02:29:25] Nice banner placement again.
[02:29:26] Oh?
[02:29:26] Oh my god!
[02:29:27] I mean, straight away they're hit on a PMM!
[02:29:28] Get the BKP off the defense and disruptions there as well from Riddies, but he's so low!
[02:29:32] He's barely even alive.
[02:29:33] Yeah man, it looks like he will be able to crawl back to safety.
[02:29:37] Let me just...
[02:29:38] Off to the side, they try and turn fire over to what's called field.
[02:29:42] Force him back, will survive as well.
[02:29:45] Niku?
[02:29:45] Niku, he tries to commit to missing the fire, he'll be able to back off to the parry.
[02:29:48] Oh my god, that was so risky.
[02:29:51] Trying to run in to kill the banner.
[02:29:53] They will finish it off with the illusions.
[02:29:55] Those catapults now can die.
[02:29:57] And you get another jump. They're doing a lot of damage to Witt.
[02:30:03] See Dartmargo going straight away. On top of that, they're going to try and focus the
[02:30:06] terrible aim first. The bash comes in, got the two, getting low. They've got the combo
[02:30:11] coming in big there from Witt. Get the perfect angle. Niku, can he clean up? Look at the
[02:30:15] Aegis out of Witt. Turns over to Watt's rank. Rotivates us as well, holding him in position.
[02:30:20] The pick to follow things up.
[02:30:21] David had Witt.
[02:30:22] back with Niku turns over what's right but that's gonna be Niku gone the two
[02:30:27] at least managed to bring down Scofield at the end of it all not not bad all
[02:30:32] they lose their two cores the two main ones that want to survive and get all
[02:30:36] the benefits of the fight days with a nice stolen requiem but it ends up
[02:30:40] getting blinked out of great play there from the wits as he gets disrupted
[02:30:45] pushes them back it does push it free still stands who got these kills to
[02:30:52] when getting at least one of these last hits, it's just PMA who got both right so
[02:30:58] look at which with the patience though look at his positioning with this requiem that was
[02:31:01] pretty cool one and a very nice angle coming in big on both got the juice from Niku, Niku getting
[02:31:06] the OOF though giving him that extra bit of a chance to fight back here this area where Navi can
[02:31:11] fight right with the pit with the TV hitting this is the one condition that they can look to at least
[02:31:16] please get some type of trade here
[02:31:21] they get their actually didn't see who got the gem, i imagined playtime when they picked it up
[02:31:24] yeah they did, so misha was able to still claim that one
[02:31:27] still a 25,000 lead
[02:31:29] but navi hanging on
[02:31:31] i guess the question is
[02:31:33] if you playtime
[02:31:34] don't have your agents now, do you still go for the high ground push?
[02:31:38] and shoot them?
[02:31:40] you know will they
[02:31:41] fall into the sort of a similar trap as the last game whereas it goes on late to
[02:31:45] Navi get more more chances to clutch it up they don't feel as forced to this game by any means
[02:31:50] They don't have a necrophos carry right they have this right-clicking scaling
[02:31:53] Core that can still look for plays if they get a catch they'll absolutely go for the high ground push
[02:31:59] He's playing careful
[02:32:02] But I'll me shows looking for him and finds him with the push right into the requiem
[02:32:06] They've got him I'll me show I mean this guy's hoodwink might have to start getting banned as well
[02:32:09] So we do have to mention how insane his performance is
[02:32:15] Stop playing around, we've got the juice.
[02:32:17] Go field.
[02:32:17] Look at the fiends game, he's going to hide in the tombstone for now.
[02:32:21] But he will die.
[02:32:22] He's in the tombstone again.
[02:32:23] Back into the tombstone.
[02:32:24] Back out and hiding.
[02:32:25] He's still alive.
[02:32:26] And now the factor ball comes in, Skofield.
[02:32:28] He's bathing.
[02:32:29] Viving throughout this door, got the juice taken out.
[02:32:33] These two support.
[02:32:34] They couldn't kill us, it's in and out of the tombstone.
[02:32:36] He was chilling.
[02:32:36] Honestly, these two support, they really are kind of just dancing on them.
[02:32:40] That was beautiful.
[02:32:40] Skofield somehow ends up surviving.
[02:32:42] The whole team gets over, they kill the TB again, no growth.
[02:32:48] They may be hanging on, but that truly is all what it feels like for Nabi.
[02:32:51] Yeah, this is a crazy lead here from playtime.
[02:32:53] A full hex for El Micho coming out in a moment here as well.
[02:32:59] Agonyms for Frank, also finished up, so more and more counters for this terrorblader.
[02:33:04] Need to back him down on the tour, then Niko's gonna try and make a move for Frank.
[02:33:07] Niko has to be careful.
[02:33:08] I think he might just be dead.
[02:33:09] That's a dangerous play to go for the tankiest hero in the game.
[02:33:14] 51 armor on the stars here.
[02:33:17] Maybe just feeling desperate at this point.
[02:33:20] Riddies.
[02:33:21] Just slow down the push.
[02:33:25] Try and just dive in.
[02:33:27] Kill off PMA.
[02:33:28] Kill off Riddies.
[02:33:29] He dazed the requiem.
[02:33:30] He got wits.
[02:33:31] He got wits.
[02:33:32] Actually able to bring wits down costum is like everybody's dead on RV.
[02:33:36] But Daze is having fun.
[02:33:37] He's at least having some fun.
[02:33:39] Playtime, calls for nobody up right now, Na'Vi, playtime have all the room, let's get the push going.
[02:33:46] This is a beautiful gameplay from them, this game.
[02:33:49] Relentless aggression, never stopping, never giving space for Na'Vi to come back in this game,
[02:33:53] and the Kaz overall, having one of the hardest games it feels like, Niku 1-10 after having such a hell of a performance on that Invoker.
[02:34:01] Unable to do anything to this playtime draft.
[02:34:04] a
[02:34:11] fifth
[02:34:16] of the
[02:34:21] one-five and it will have five acts ready on most of them for this final defense with the skill of everyone packed up only three
[02:34:23] full field with greater healing waters as well
[02:34:26] to push without the carry
[02:34:29] Back in, I get the vacuum.
[02:34:31] All onto the boat for them.
[02:34:32] Let me juice. Frank might punch him.
[02:34:34] Gonna protect him, he's gonna get the thunder off.
[02:34:36] Dark Margot has to be careful himself now,
[02:34:38] need to try and chase them out of the base.
[02:34:40] No damage.
[02:34:42] I'll push it back though.
[02:34:43] So, even though they did kinda get Team 1,
[02:34:45] they only lost one set of rats.
[02:34:47] Holding on as much as they can hold on,
[02:34:50] whilst they're far behind.
[02:34:53] Juice does have the Daedalus.
[02:34:55] If he can still turret,
[02:34:56] they have to be able to perfect him to turret.
[02:34:59] Okay, the base is the best place that they can try to defense here.
[02:35:03] Navi is looking to smoke out.
[02:35:05] This is a dangerous one.
[02:35:07] They do have buybacks to fall back on, so at least a little bit of a fall back here
[02:35:14] if this all-in play goes wrong.
[02:35:16] They're probably just trying to catch playtime off guard because there's not something you
[02:35:19] would expect Navi to do when there's this deficit.
[02:35:22] It's actually about to be a 1k per minute.
[02:35:24] moments of the wits, three shot, they're looking for that SF. Wits, he's going to be able to
[02:35:32] get away with the silver rush, they do quite have detection set up for him. Clayton's ready
[02:35:37] to go running straight back at them, Navi, they've got to go full retreat, but Niku,
[02:35:41] gets him again, they've caught him with the vacuum into the axe, disruption will come
[02:35:45] out for Riddies! Canon fell on Niku out though, Niku's gone for 50 again, Riddies will also
[02:35:53] gets out with just able to TP out in time they got the juice. Now 40 seconds
[02:35:57] without the two of them and he was actually one of the ones that didn't
[02:35:59] have the money for the buyback here so he is gone for 40 seconds Niko. Frank to
[02:36:04] the high ground.
[02:36:07] Level 25 hit on their stuff now as well. Shadow rays applies that damage.
[02:36:12] The buyback from Riddies. Still 25 for that Niko on the cans.
[02:36:16] What? Back to you!
[02:36:17] Back to you! Ball is trying to way out of the three and the mid of the hex on got the juice!
[02:36:21] It is over, Gigi is called, we're going to a game three.
[02:36:25] That was pretty convincing.
[02:36:27] Absolutely just peak playtime really there.
[02:36:30] Yeah.
[02:36:30] From the lads, that was...
[02:36:32] And doing it in this fashion with a hero that nobody else was picking or I don't want to say I don't think anyone's even banning this hero.
[02:36:38] Darkseer comes in last pick, Frank absolutely crushes the game a bit, and then Schofield gives us a little giggle at the start with his level one tombstone.
[02:36:46] But he's the last one laughing, you know.
[02:36:48] He truly is.
[02:36:49] Absolutely crushes them.
[02:36:51] I mean, both of these heroes are ones that not many people are playing, but they actually look pretty
[02:36:55] disgustingly strong in the way that they played them. Yes, Go-Field running the game pretty early.
[02:37:00] These two support us, honestly. I think Mishou might have to have his hoodwink banned or taken away
[02:37:04] from them, too, because he does look way too good, way too comfortable, and he does make a lot of
[02:37:08] these lanes look insanely good, like the Darkseer from Frank. That was a hell of a performance
[02:37:13] from them. Honestly, they get no home to Na'Vi, but felt like at 12 minutes.
[02:37:17] And they just sort of had that kind of change up from last game, you know, last game, but
[02:37:22] he also did see them get a pretty decent lead.
[02:37:24] This time though, they could take the objectives.
[02:37:26] They had his SF in the hands of Witt, and it was exactly what was sort of missing last
[02:37:31] game round.
[02:37:32] You know, for all the farm that he had on the Necrophos, he wasn't able to do what
[02:37:35] he was able to do here as an SF and just close the game up.
[02:37:37] Yeah, great pushing.
[02:37:39] Everything came into energy.
[02:37:40] Great itemization.
[02:37:41] I think there's nothing more you could really ask from playtime in this game that was quite
[02:37:44] beautiful to watch.
[02:37:45] Game 3 is going to be rather scary for Na'Vi going into that one after this bit of a beatdown
[02:37:51] that they've just endured against Playtime. What a game 2 from Playtime.
[02:37:54] It's one to one right now between Playtime and Na'Vi.
[02:38:01] What a wonderful day of Dota. What a wonderful day in the park.
[02:38:07] And what a wonderful day for us to be enjoying each other's time and we're going to go to the
[02:38:11] the city of love, that's Riyadh.
[02:38:14] Maybe Navi's not gonna be going to the city of love though,
[02:38:17] if they're not careful here.
[02:38:18] I mean, it really depends, right?
[02:38:19] If Schofield keeps playing like this,
[02:38:22] I mean, did he, at the start of this game,
[02:38:24] whatever Schofield was doing.
[02:38:25] That was a Herald play.
[02:38:27] Dude, I like, I legitimately could not believe my eyes.
[02:38:31] Yeah.
[02:38:31] Like, who skills Tombstone level one?
[02:38:34] Heralds.
[02:38:35] I've seen this a lot.
[02:38:36] And it works, cause people don't realize it,
[02:38:38] you can kill it.
[02:38:39] They're just like-
[02:38:40] Like he just walked up drop to him stone. He's like alone. What are you doing?
[02:38:44] Yeah, the problem is there's guys that know that it dies and they just start hitting it and then
[02:38:50] 125 gold
[02:38:52] First look he's gonna literally fade both kids your first one. He has so much gold
[02:38:56] I remember you saying when you were a player that you should kill steel on rubik all the time
[02:39:01] You should you should but like I
[02:39:04] Don't know school first sometimes any place again. He's like ultra griefing
[02:39:07] Who's that guy on the left?
[02:39:09] I don't know if he's quite chapitier, but like...
[02:39:11] But he definitely moves along like this scale.
[02:39:14] And then like, so to start of this game, he's definitely griefing.
[02:39:17] He starts off probably doing the maximum amount of grief that he could within the first minute.
[02:39:20] Yeah.
[02:39:20] And then he just slowly levels up as the game progresses.
[02:39:25] And he's like, I gotta make up for my mistakes.
[02:39:27] Do you think it powers him up?
[02:39:29] And if that's the floor?
[02:39:30] You know, so, I don't know, I feel like it's confusing the enemies as well.
[02:39:35] They're like what this guy can't be killing us in a lane. He's got tombstone first of fed. Yeah
[02:39:40] I can't this head and then he's not gonna kill us exactly
[02:39:43] And then they like slowly like you know make some moves, huh? Yeah, like this guy's like, okay
[02:39:48] This guy's kind of annoying, but he's still bad. He's still too small one. Yeah, that's completely unacceptable behavior
[02:39:53] Yeah, then you realize the shadow amulet in his inventory is actually gonna build into something exactly
[02:39:58] He pulls up mid so he kills top kills mid
[02:40:01] gets into the jungle kills this guy again and he's just like continuously like
[02:40:07] cooking more and more and the build he was cooking too the build he was sick
[02:40:10] build you like that build the face boots soul ring force for the aggressive force
[02:40:16] that's not for the defensive force that's nope and look at you get chatting
[02:40:20] just like was hilarious he forced it here by the way to start hitting the
[02:40:23] underlord yeah and he's literally just painting tier two tower attacking the
[02:40:27] enemy core, not a single fuck given. Just completely chatting it up and slowly progressing
[02:40:34] up towards like go to tier, you know? At this point you're like, damn this I'm buying
[02:40:37] is like doing things I've never seen anyone buying do in my entire life.
[02:40:40] It's arguably more impressive than just starting as the go, cause he meant-
[02:40:44] Well this clip was insane, sorry for cutting off, but this clip was actually insane. I'm
[02:40:47] like, okay he's just feeding.
[02:40:48] Slowly running to the tombstone.
[02:40:49] And then he jumps into the tombstone, survives, and then he goes back in there again!
[02:40:53] Are they gonna kill him? What will they get him?
[02:40:56] It's like whack-a-mole.
[02:40:58] This is crazy.
[02:41:00] And he's not shouting it up again.
[02:41:02] Hit the guy, get the damage in.
[02:41:04] Dude, I love watching Spielfield.
[02:41:06] Solver Max as well. He was healing a lot.
[02:41:08] He was so good.
[02:41:10] So you did make it to go to your miracle for prime miracles.
[02:41:14] But I think this is a harder thing to do.
[02:41:16] To ascend to the throne, of course, you've seen Game of Thrones.
[02:41:20] to usurp the throne and take down the mad king is much more difficult than to
[02:41:27] simply inherit like Joffrey yeah and it never ends well it doesn't end well if
[02:41:33] you're a Lannister and you inherit the throne but if you if you usurp if winter
[02:41:41] is coming winter is coming we all gotta be careful what the fuck is going on over
[02:41:46] there there's a panda I can I guess you know you see it now this has been an
[02:41:53] unhinged morning I don't know what's going on you should have heard the
[02:41:57] same schedule saying in the green room is that crazy is that a DHL robot no
[02:42:01] that's it it's a dream league robot it is a dream and a lot it's a kind of
[02:42:06] lot have you seen coming through Panda 2 yes you have all that movie yeah it's
[02:42:11] golden have you achieved inner peace so you know what's really funny what I was
[02:42:16] Playing I genuinely tried you did yeah after watching kung fu pandas. Yes, you know thing away from me
[02:42:21] I like I genuinely thought
[02:42:23] Get this thing away from us. This is not comfortable
[02:42:27] Hey, listening sir. I'm gonna say I'm going to have ADHD is sometimes hard for me, but you can go ahead
[02:42:32] Okay, so like I genuinely tried because I felt like holy shit this movie like changed my life
[02:42:36] I'm like wow. This is truly what I'm missing it. Don't put don't put I will kick the pound up
[02:42:46] That's not even scarier! That's terrifying! Get that away from me! It's like a vacuum cleaner!
[02:42:56] How is this dota related? This is unhinged!
[02:43:00] What is happening right now?
[02:43:02] The cows are gonna come off of the goddamn screen and start singing some Swedish... Swedish, um...
[02:43:09] I can't. I can't deal with this anymore.
[02:43:12] I'm really tired of this shit. Fuck this. Fuck being a cat. Fuck this whole thing.
[02:43:16] I'm over it, Jenkins. You can do this panel alone. I can't take this.
[02:43:21] I can't take this. What is this?
[02:43:24] What is that AI has gone too far?
[02:43:28] Oh, I don't- this is not- I- I'm gonna fucking horrible me!
[02:43:35] What is this? There's a vacuum cleaner attacking me.
[02:43:39] who's controlling this is it one of you
[02:43:52] I'm out of here fuck this shit I'm going with him
[02:44:09] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[02:47:50] Oh, oh, oh.
[02:50:20] Well, they really did a sad, sad day for Hannah.
[02:50:26] Hold on a minute.
[02:50:27] You are watching Greenwood Season 29, and we're in the middle of an elimination series.
[02:50:32] It's actually the final series of the first round of Lower Bracket.
[02:50:36] And then after that, we are going to switch to Upper Bracket today.
[02:50:40] But this series in particular, Super High, we got Playtime, we got Na'Vi.
[02:50:44] They match up so nicely in terms of action and aggression all round.
[02:50:48] And I'm hoping that we can see that as well coming out of game number three game one one by Navi after beating the width
[02:50:56] Necrophos which is obviously very cool game two
[02:51:01] Supposed to be maybe going Navi's way if you watch the first minute and then it didn't
[02:51:07] The rest was all playtime
[02:51:09] Well feels just too good. He's just doing it doesn't matter what kind of stuff
[02:51:13] Yes, it does not like even with the worst possible scenario you have boots first
[02:51:17] You go tombstone and feed it at minute 10. He was still like five one and five killing everyone
[02:51:22] You know, I hate under him game one he made up for it
[02:51:25] I think everybody would you guys agree that that was like the least Dota Dota match
[02:51:33] We've seen for this entire dream league explain yourself like they on the side of not we did not get to actually play the game
[02:51:40] Oh, yeah, because there was just this weird
[02:51:42] weird situation happening in all of the lanes, maybe they were underestimating the undying,
[02:51:47] maybe they didn't understand it, the ways to go field understand it.
[02:51:50] They did not understand it.
[02:51:52] It was just, that was the weirdest game of Dota I've seen this stream way, I would say.
[02:51:57] Maybe...
[02:51:58] Just saying because like one team dumpstered the other so much and there was no counterplay.
[02:52:01] No counterplay, but with something that was very unusual.
[02:52:04] It's not like we see like, oh of course that's classic four position undying, right, you're
[02:52:08] not killing the lanes, right?
[02:52:09] like they've never screamed and had to deal with the situation ever before yeah
[02:52:13] you know yeah so I feel like they just didn't get to play Dota game one was way
[02:52:17] more Dota that was more like we're gonna let the Necro through deal with the
[02:52:22] Necro they somehow managed to do it in game two is just like what did I just
[02:52:25] watch it's also what Aiden said in the draft they were picking a lot for their
[02:52:28] own strength which I fully agree with with the like the draft overall I
[02:52:32] didn't see it play out as one-sided as it did yeah but I think also when you
[02:52:36] think of like South America as a region like historically this is what this region does this is what their players do
[02:52:42] Yeah, like they play ultra aggression. They just go
[02:52:44] I don't like not every play is backed up by you know quote-unquote logic
[02:52:48] But it's what they have built on and played for 10 years. Yeah, and sometimes obviously it depends also how your opponents react
[02:52:55] And I think Navi they didn't they did not pass the vibe check. I remember
[02:52:59] Back in my day when I was playing our studios
[02:53:02] No, before for our studios, and I was playing with these dudes in the qualifiers. Adam the idea
[02:53:09] Qualifiers ready beat Quinn. He was playing Han before that the idea behind playing against
[02:53:15] South American players and teams was you just don't fight them because the macro is not that good
[02:53:21] But if you fight them they will outplay you and fights and so I agree like sometimes the stuff they're doing is not backed up by
[02:53:27] logic, but it is backed up by skill. And now, they also have very good macro because South
[02:53:33] America as a region has been able to play at tier 1 lands, they have tier 1 teams, so
[02:53:37] the practice is there, so they absolutely know the macro as well, sometimes it falls
[02:53:41] off. But you still see these crazy plays, which is one of my favorite things about watching
[02:53:46] any of these things, especially like the tier 2 ones that just make it to tier 1.
[02:53:49] I put into like simple terms, I think what play time is doing is they are overwhelming
[02:53:54] would speed. That is really what it is. They're making moves too early for
[02:54:01] Navi to be ready for it. They're breaking down the laning phase at minute 3 rather
[02:54:04] than minute 5. You know, like what traditional European teams do, or even
[02:54:08] Eastern European teams do, is it's all more efficiency thoughts. It's like how
[02:54:11] do we get the most out of every single lane, whereas playtime are rather
[02:54:15] presenting you with unexpected moves. That's what they're aiming for. They're
[02:54:19] aiming to do things that you are not ready for. It doesn't follow like the
[02:54:22] efficiency patterns or doesn't follow the right things they're supposed to do during the game,
[02:54:26] but rather overwhelmed. And I think usually against like the S tier teams, that doesn't really work
[02:54:32] because the communication and the understanding of movements and stuff is so high and it's so quick
[02:54:36] that you get punished eventually when you're doing these things. And you will get out of
[02:54:40] efficiency, they'll play safe at the right areas, but Navi isn't really quite finding like the
[02:54:45] ebb and flow to the map that you need in order to match what playtime we're doing,
[02:54:48] And that's why they're getting overwhelmed.
[02:54:51] I would even go as far as to say that they have wrong reads or mistimings even on taking fights.
[02:54:56] Navi did it. They did a game one with the Invoker where they're fighting minute 17 mid into like,
[02:55:01] Largo timings and whoever, like the Necro being fully fat.
[02:55:04] Even in this game, like if you have TB, you're playing it for the...
[02:55:08] At some point, you reach the stage where you're like,
[02:55:09] Okay, if we just AFK farm, we won't win.
[02:55:12] But even before that, they're like taking a lot of like 3v3 fights and 4v4s that...
[02:55:16] I think other teams in that situation, they would never even have it as a possibility.
[02:55:20] Well, I think that's the thing, right? I think playtime brings 5 to everything.
[02:55:23] Yes.
[02:55:23] And normally what you're used to is like, Eastern European teams or European teams
[02:55:28] all bring 3 heroes to those fights.
[02:55:30] So, Navi feel like we're strong enough to match this.
[02:55:32] And they're not like, actually paying attention to the details and looking at their minimap
[02:55:35] and noticing that they carry all 4 like the offlaners off the map.
[02:55:39] Yet, the Moria!
[02:55:42] Use the Moria!
[02:55:43] explain this to me I don't know if someone in the production is from
[02:55:50] Gothenburg and obviously like that's a bad place to be from because Falkholm
[02:55:54] reign supreme and they just love classic people from the countries that are from
[02:55:59] the major city who are like everyone else
[02:56:02] let's actually focus on the draft that is that is what I'm trying to do here
[02:56:07] Jenkins all right because we have not used to opening the Venom after we start
[02:56:12] very effective in game one coming out from Navi is one of the reason why they
[02:56:15] were able to hold the way they did and come back we saw Shadowfiend being very
[02:56:19] effective as well in the previous game great minus armor strategy yes very
[02:56:23] good very strong for Navi I really sorry for Navi I really feel like I don't
[02:56:31] mind the TV I think the TV was a good idea against the SF I just don't want to
[02:56:35] see the cast yeah sorry about that brother oh that was timing I feel like
[02:56:40] I feel like for TB, if you want to play around TB, then you need to have setup, you need to have control, you need to have a more traditional draft.
[02:56:48] I think how to draft a TB is a script that's been laid out for years and years and years, because this hero's been good for so long.
[02:56:54] And to me, Kez doesn't fulfill that need that TB has. He doesn't enable TB steam fighting at all.
[02:57:03] So they actually go move away from TV and go for Windranger and stuff, which I think makes more sense
[02:57:08] I think 10th runner works better together. Windrunner has less reliant like less problems getting kited. Yeah
[02:57:14] She does she does her own thing. Yeah, she doesn't need people to set up for her
[02:57:17] She's just kind of like a standalone hero and a very good matchup into the SF. I remember this is what Watson was picking against
[02:57:24] SF when you like Yandex was
[02:57:26] Extremely strong. This would be their answer at the same time two of the kids
[02:57:30] he should have more like purpose in this game your second pick you see pango that is at least a good
[02:57:36] leading matchup for you i'm not fully sold like the windranger doesn't have to be the carry yet
[02:57:41] she could be right it could be the post far because you have second pick you can still last pick
[02:57:47] and check if it were to be i think absolutely that that's fine but the cool option for them is that
[02:57:53] i mean what would make you pick your carry here when you're a second pick and you have 24 later
[02:57:58] Mainly it's like, if you think it might get banned off, you don't have any other options.
[02:58:01] Like, Keebee's good against us-us, but they lose draft with TigerDee.
[02:58:05] When you see a Nigma like this, maybe you're considering potential, like, more something stronger in the lineas, Nigma.
[02:58:10] I think Windrunner does okay. It's not great, but it can manage that way.
[02:58:15] Also, does Daes nots play Windrunner?
[02:58:19] He definitely does. He's like a ranged...
[02:58:22] He's a very heavy spellcaster. He likes his ranged heroes.
[02:58:25] So like kind of like save here in a way. Yeah
[02:58:30] What else can you look for I mean the traditional guys against enigma would are always like some gyro BB
[02:58:36] There's also a BB out. Yeah, I'll kiss like one of the next ones, which I think can be quite good
[02:58:41] I think he's like a tear below. Yeah, other two
[02:58:45] I wanted to come back to the case though like you brought up a good point against the pango
[02:58:49] I feel like
[02:58:50] You need the silence to have impact from Kess, like it needs to prevent the hero from playing its hero
[02:58:55] I think that's when like this mid-kess can actually really work and I feel like pango is kind of like he falls into that category of heroes
[02:59:01] Yeah, he's not quite puck
[02:59:02] But he's kind of like relying on putting his buttons
[02:59:05] You know what else could be what it's like a near unplayable matchup for enigma is
[02:59:10] Brutemother carry
[02:59:12] Obviously Kess can destroy ab I mean pango, you know, that would be the one who that can do something
[02:59:17] But I think if they're not very careful and they're okay with a spot like that, that hero is very annoying.
[02:59:23] Why do you think Brutus is so good at Scammer?
[02:59:25] You're fine early, you can LCS him, but once the Brut gets 6, you have no playability.
[02:59:31] You have nothing that protects yourself.
[02:59:33] Sure, you're good when you get blinked BKB, like later.
[02:59:35] Even techies, I think, would hate this hero.
[02:59:37] You're just running in some spiders and all the mines die.
[02:59:39] You also take over the whole area like Brut, or rather, Enigma wants to take your tower, like occupy the space and do that.
[02:59:45] And I think Brutal just glitched that whole script.
[02:59:48] The only thing about Brutal is that I'd be scared.
[02:59:51] Like, how do you, playing level 1-2-5, like, you only have auto-attacks to secure CS?
[02:59:55] Yeah.
[02:59:56] And Enigma, like, has double your damage.
[02:59:57] That is very true.
[02:59:58] You also have no threat on Zidalon.
[02:59:59] So, like, I hear you once you get to 6, for sure.
[03:00:03] But I think the problem is you might lose your tier 1 tower to some nice moves prior to that.
[03:00:07] Like, once anyone gets to drums in, like, level 5, I think you might be, like, at almost full level behind.
[03:00:12] And it might be a struggle.
[03:00:13] So what's something more safe than?
[03:00:15] We talked about the alt, which I think is okay.
[03:00:17] Is there also just a world where you play Windranger
[03:00:21] with the Venom, you pick a new four
[03:00:23] that you feel like has a bigger impact on the scheme?
[03:00:25] I mean, I feel like it's tricky
[03:00:26] because the Venom in this lane to me is like,
[03:00:28] he hates this lane, he hates this lane.
[03:00:30] I would not want to be Venom answer in this game.
[03:00:32] I think this is kind of the issue
[03:00:33] with picking Venom so early,
[03:00:35] is like it's a five that presents liabilities
[03:00:37] rather than security options as you go down the line.
[03:00:40] And it puts a lot of pressure on the carry
[03:00:42] to like, find a hero that almost doesn't exist
[03:00:45] if you get him to teambound directly.
[03:00:48] And okay, they're actually gonna move
[03:00:50] the Windranger to Cary.
[03:00:52] I think it's a decent option.
[03:00:54] The hero does fine.
[03:00:55] Like, ideally, as Windranger,
[03:00:57] you wanna be pressuring your lane.
[03:00:58] It might be a bit hard against the big map,
[03:00:59] but you can manage.
[03:01:02] I like SD.
[03:01:03] Let's go to against SF.
[03:01:05] You can steal illusions, get the Manny of Thermer.
[03:01:07] You can press R on Pango.
[03:01:09] You can never shield crash and get armor.
[03:01:11] You can take off the techies, taser as well, and you save from Black Hole as well.
[03:01:16] So it's just an all-around, like, very decent pick.
[03:01:19] You know what's really interesting?
[03:01:20] The pick that Steve's wise to say is right.
[03:01:22] Uh-huh.
[03:01:23] Not on the game, but there was a macro close.
[03:01:24] That is interesting.
[03:01:25] That is weird.
[03:01:26] That is true.
[03:01:27] They're the team that pick it the most, but the pick isn't really doing it for me.
[03:01:32] Like, in my opinion, Pangol doesn't give a shit about this hero.
[03:01:35] Maybe, like you mentioned the shield crutch, which is fine, but purging this guy, he's
[03:01:39] just gonna...
[03:01:40] He just roll?
[03:01:41] out teamfights you in a way so I think that while we haven't seen Enigma it's
[03:01:45] always been a very annoying hero in a way. It's a problem in every every game.
[03:01:49] Yeah like it just forces you into like a slightly different pool while Navi are
[03:01:53] maybe okay with the windranger carry I don't think they're safe lane is that
[03:01:56] good I don't love the SD pick that much. I think the lineup overall is fine but I
[03:02:00] think playtime did a pretty nice job. I agree I think the most redeeming thing
[03:02:04] for me in this game is I look at the chess and I feel like it's kind of hard for him to stop
[03:02:07] for moving around. If he is mobile-ing and he gets ahead, like, he runs to Nygma's name,
[03:02:12] Sarlas is in Nygma, there's no counter play really, so he might pop off.
[03:02:16] Real quick, can't tell if I'm talking a little bit about the Nygma, let's say I'm on the
[03:02:19] sixth out of four for Frank. Nobody cares? Probably his best hero.
[03:02:24] He's very good at it. He's really good at it, and we saw him zero and zero, right? This is
[03:02:29] like the first time. First to Nygma again. Then it got picked, so I feel like if he's calling
[03:02:32] for it in a game. It's a really good game for it. And it's so much on the line.
[03:02:37] Navi need to win this if they want to make it to Paris, EWC, straight up. They
[03:02:43] will also do so if playtime wins this but then lose their next series. Playtime
[03:02:47] need to win 2 vs 3s in a row in this lower bracket in order to secure their
[03:02:51] slot. So we're gonna find out who has the upper hand here in game number 3.
[03:02:56] He already picked someone fogged their way to the New Englands and he got a course to park their grandals first.
[03:03:26] Game free time ladies and gentlemen, Navi against playtime and we're looking forward to getting you to the action of this one.
[03:03:55] This one, some fun stuff being picked up, we're getting an Enigma coming into play here for playtime.
[03:04:00] We're going to see a little bit of a attempt to win a 5-0-1 to the bouncer room.
[03:04:04] It's just going to end up with two, don't know what playtime they're going to do tonight, and just one going to have Na'Vi.
[03:04:09] And so, Fogna'Vi, they've kind of got the two calls that me and you aren't really a big fan of in these positions.
[03:04:15] They've got something to prove it, they want to try and prove it.
[03:04:18] It is the mid-cares again, and that carry-wim ranger, which I feel I mean, you, we've seen
[03:04:25] just not really do a whole lot in any of the games that it's been a carry-wim ranger.
[03:04:30] I will say.
[03:04:31] I will say.
[03:04:32] I think any one of you that's been able to make it work, of course, as we always talk
[03:04:34] about for the Wim ranger.
[03:04:35] I mean, even he was losing on it the other day.
[03:04:36] He was.
[03:04:37] And overall, for the lane, I'm wondering how this is going to function to deal with Idleons,
[03:04:40] because it's Frank's best hero, like they were mentioning, and they don't really have
[03:04:43] the best ways of killing these archers.
[03:04:44] So I feel like Playtime got everything I wanted in this game, right?
[03:04:48] And I feel like Na'Vi, they may have gotten what they wanted, but the first thing that I want to see is them just play a lot cleaner and a lot faster to be able to answer and play time, because every game, both of them so far, play time is dictating pace, they're just running at them, making crazy plays happen, so Na'Vi just has to be able to respond better.
[03:05:04] Now come with the disruption there, on to West to get a good setup of the blast off from our mid-show, but days making sure the razors would not be lined up from West.
[03:05:13] Because I don't know I do like I like what playtime has going a lot here what Frank's gonna be able to do eventually too is
[03:05:19] Blink BKB. There's really nothing to counter it
[03:05:22] It's gonna have to be the Kez who's not inside of it to do the bash thing
[03:05:25] And I've seen Frank land some pretty big black holes when he's played this I've seen some four man five man black holes from human time
[03:05:30] So and again, they do have that SF versus the underlord that design that they do like to play
[03:05:36] To make sure that which comes out to a good start. Yeah playtime
[03:05:40] that's been designed for them in most games, just come out very ahead in the lanes.
[03:05:44] Top lane, they're gonna get first blood by the looks of it.
[03:05:47] Riddies going down first blood for France.
[03:05:50] It's not an easy lane for this Venomance here.
[03:05:52] They'll get the lane pulled behind so that the juice will be able to get some last hits of course and deny a couple creeps.
[03:05:57] But yeah, this is gonna be a tough lane for him to at least put any pressure or slow down Frank.
[03:06:02] And I wonder how they're gonna set up to defend the towers early because it does feel like Frank is gonna do what Aiden was saying, right?
[03:06:07] Early on, got those trumps.
[03:06:09] Get that push going.
[03:06:11] Oh, these are steep.
[03:06:14] And why don't you just be able to chase them down.
[03:06:16] Start up a couple of raises in a second, and they'll have it.
[03:06:18] Blast them, comes in.
[03:06:20] Couple of raises.
[03:06:22] Ooh, we can!
[03:06:24] Alright, at least we have the waste that's on that.
[03:06:26] That's beautiful. A lot of man wasted, a lot of time wasted.
[03:06:29] PMA will be able to pull the creep behind to go get something out of the lane.
[03:06:32] Have to do lane shenanigans down here, right?
[03:06:34] They're playing that underlord versus SF, so trying to get what we can.
[03:06:37] Niko in the matchup, he did well versus the squad in the lane like we talked about just
[03:06:42] in the mid game.
[03:06:43] It was a clear difference of what a squad or a squad versus a cat is going to do.
[03:06:46] See if it's going to be better versus pink.
[03:06:55] Top lane, can these two put any pressure on for you Niko?
[03:06:59] No, I don't think so unless he literally placed way too far aggressive and maybe a third
[03:07:04] hero comes.
[03:07:05] Actually, look who's bringing the third hero first.
[03:07:08] It's play time.
[03:07:09] Benowar to try to scout things out.
[03:07:12] Ready? Riddies knows something's up.
[03:07:14] He's gonna see Amisha now.
[03:07:17] They're dying.
[03:07:18] The bushwite though, comes in from Skyfield,
[03:07:20] into the blast off.
[03:07:21] Riddies is gonna be dead.
[03:07:23] And they're already gonna start putting
[03:07:24] that pressure on the tower.
[03:07:25] Yeah.
[03:07:26] Super early, level three.
[03:07:28] Let's go field.
[03:07:29] Taking some damage here.
[03:07:30] Another Power Shot.
[03:07:32] Almost enough.
[03:07:33] Step to South though.
[03:07:35] He's losing a lot of creeps here on this Windranger.
[03:07:40] Mishou?
[03:07:41] He might be able to get him.
[03:07:42] He's got Taser.
[03:07:43] Frank, Frank, come back!
[03:07:44] Come back!
[03:07:45] I don't think that bushback and the idelons are coming in from the side!
[03:07:48] Oh dear!
[03:07:49] That's got the juice dead!
[03:07:51] Riddies!
[03:07:52] Might just die as well as the idelons and Scofield.
[03:07:55] Chase him down.
[03:07:57] Try to salve between the hits and not get him.
[03:07:59] Oh, yes, yes.
[03:08:00] Frank is... he's gonna be a problem this Enigma.
[03:08:02] And we have to also mention, right, Taser versus Windranger.
[03:08:04] They did make it a carry.
[03:08:05] It's going to dispel that windrun off every single time
[03:08:07] if he does walk in and use it.
[03:08:09] Frank?
[03:08:10] He's low.
[03:08:10] Can they go for the kill onto him here?
[03:08:12] No.
[03:08:12] And now he's got the tranquil boots to give him a reset.
[03:08:18] Lovely start to lane here for Frank.
[03:08:20] And Wich, he's in this 1v1 versus the Underlord.
[03:08:22] Underlord, pretty happy, at least
[03:08:23] because of the lane positioning, though.
[03:08:24] So we are seeing PMA get a fair fit out of this bottom lane.
[03:08:27] But yeah, this top lane is dangerous.
[03:08:31] Now, do you see anything different this game that...
[03:08:33] Oh, bitch!
[03:08:34] Ooh!
[03:08:34] Niku...
[03:08:36] Can we get a back off with the parry?
[03:08:39] So, it should be fine, but overall, does this game look better for a mid-kaz, as opposed to the last game?
[03:08:44] Like, what were the biggest struggles from in that game, too, that aren't here in this time?
[03:08:49] You know, this time around.
[03:08:52] Not as cheap and, like, not as many stuns, right?
[03:08:55] Like, the ulti stun will come out and the hood blink one, but they don't have to...
[03:08:58] He doesn't worry about the bashes and the constant slaughter vision as well, though he's being thrown on top of him.
[03:09:05] But I'm not sure, honestly, I'm not too sure what the kez is fully designed to do.
[03:09:10] Niku will have to show us in the mid-game.
[03:09:18] Heavy rotations, Navi. They don't want to play regular lanes now at this point, they want to break things,
[03:09:22] don't want to just play heads up for some of these level 3 idolons.
[03:09:28] Can they get the setup though? Witz is in a very defensive position and has backup.
[03:09:32] Level 2 Taser online for Misho.
[03:09:34] I really want him. I mean in the mid.
[03:09:36] Don't mind, let's go up to the dive onto Niko if they get the angle for a bushwack.
[03:09:40] Scope B.O.T. does. There it is.
[03:09:42] Every time, I mean, this hero, but these players on this hero are in the bottom.
[03:09:49] Let me get the chance to get the kill there. I mean, sure it doesn't end up dying.
[03:09:52] So they find something now.
[03:09:54] Ports, I mean, look at this. Got the juice. He's bringing the aggression.
[03:09:56] Looking for wits, but the TPs are coming in against Gopiel's here.
[03:10:00] Yeah, they're one. I mean, they- they can still try and dive him.
[03:10:04] It's dangerous here.
[03:10:05] They didn't get the power shot.
[03:10:06] I don't know, this bushwhack acorn is so much damaged that they are not too healthy.
[03:10:11] Got the juice, he's gonna go through the portal again.
[03:10:13] It's a 2K lead already, out of these lanes.
[03:10:15] Got the juice, just ain't getting the chance to farm right.
[03:10:17] Nope, not at all.
[03:10:18] He's gonna go back top, Gopiel might just interrupt him to be annoying.
[03:10:22] They're just gonna follow him. They might just kill him.
[03:10:23] Yeah?
[03:10:24] Because Lucas went for him.
[03:10:25] Okay, the shackle off and we'll be able to win run away now with the win run coming to an end
[03:10:29] They don't even eat the black hole in the bush work in the blast off got the juicers game
[03:10:34] Continues to get crushed
[03:10:36] The women to carry range. I don't know. Maybe these teams are just all accidentally picking it
[03:10:41] Oh, no, look what we've done. We've picked women to carry again. Oh, no, why does it? Oh, no, there's there's something that they see of course
[03:10:48] Right the focus fire turret
[03:10:50] I don't know what we're talking about.
[03:10:52] We're clearly misperceiving, but when range are you carrying?
[03:10:55] I don't know. It's into Taser, I don't know.
[03:10:57] I think this Taser hard counters this hero as well.
[03:10:59] Especially in the carry position.
[03:11:01] So far, playtime, having an amazing entry into the game
[03:11:04] as they have every single time so far here.
[03:11:06] Skullfield.
[03:11:10] Surely the game in here.
[03:11:12] I mean, you know what you said, don't chase Skullfield.
[03:11:15] Oh, he leveled. He saved the skill point for Skurry.
[03:11:18] He's he's not done. He's actually out
[03:11:21] Well, that's no point right if he had it if he had a bushwhack put in he dies, but he saves it gets the scary off
[03:11:29] Well, he's gonna get the wisdom they got the juice got the juice is the lowest and that worth in the game
[03:11:34] Shadowfiend is the game down in the core in the case. Okay. No, there's no the quarry in the game
[03:11:39] Sorry shadowfiend is struggling to but this never covers faster than a win ranger and much easier
[03:11:44] And yeah Frank is a absolute beast this game
[03:11:48] And as you say just not if you just blink black all the wind ranger in pretty much most parts of this game and yeah
[03:11:56] Niko gonna be an easy kill
[03:12:00] Should be fine we'll be able to get the rune radius is protecting it for him
[03:12:05] Frank's gonna get great time in on this blink
[03:12:07] He's gonna be insanely farmed and also we do have to point out that supports on the side of Navi are gonna be even more
[03:12:12] Stoppering because got the juice did have to take the wisdom rune as well and they had struggles in their lane
[03:12:17] so they're gonna be super low level.
[03:12:19] Feno can recover with the warrants of the Shadow Demon
[03:12:21] not so much with the build that you go for nowadays.
[03:12:25] Now with the start that
[03:12:27] got the juices having or not having,
[03:12:29] it's, this game is gonna pull quite heavily on the shoulders
[03:12:32] of Niku to carry from the mid for a large portion
[03:12:35] of the mid game as the Kazen.
[03:12:37] Just so many, it wasn't able to do last game.
[03:12:39] Maybe it's better just because the matchups this time around.
[03:12:41] We'll have to see.
[03:12:44] It does feel like there's a lot of control,
[03:12:45] a lot of magic damage.
[03:12:46] Yes, it's not cheap. This control, as we were saying, it's not the slaughterstone that's constantly off cooldown, but there is the bushwhack, there's the blastoff, there is a lot of magical AoE damage as well.
[03:12:55] We'll see how he endures, and it's obvious, it's a bit of recovery right now.
[03:13:01] Oh my goodness, those stacks, they are massive. We are seeing playtime. Looking for an aggressive play.
[03:13:07] So they can get scoped this time.
[03:13:12] This time, they'll get him.
[03:13:13] Niko?
[03:13:14] Also surviving the two-man rotations a couple times here.
[03:13:20] Should be able to get the tower too, so enabling got the juice he needed this.
[03:13:27] Gets the last hit on the tower as well.
[03:13:35] And how's the blimp looking on Frank?
[03:13:38] Nearly gonna be finished up already.
[03:13:40] I'm going to go and they'll have it and they have the one book that big one book on with a red black hole
[03:13:45] Requiem pango lost a big yeah tons of different things to come together which is we said he is still being slowed down
[03:13:50] Yeah, his farm is not the greatest of comparison to the other course
[03:13:54] My esteem in particular
[03:14:01] He's gonna be okay now. Let me show at least make sure the Niko doesn't get killed broon
[03:14:05] Frank is here.
[03:14:07] Tom Huggins wants to get back in, Frank. Ready to step up.
[03:14:09] Last off there, onto the two of them,
[03:14:11] he'll go for the Black Hole to lock the two of them down.
[03:14:13] Sharp Shooter comes in.
[03:14:15] Stuck comes out as well as the science to put a stop to the Black Hole.
[03:14:17] The PMA dies. Frank will fall.
[03:14:20] To not be able to at least get a kill in return.
[03:14:23] But the juice has turned up as well as Jack along to Skowfield.
[03:14:26] Skowfield will be able to scurry away. Now Wits has turned up.
[03:14:29] Ready with the Requiem, they'll jump in with the burst.
[03:14:31] They'll kill off Got the Juice.
[03:14:33] Niku was able to distance himself at least from that black hole and get something but got to choose comes in and just gets
[03:14:39] cleaned up immediately continued to struggle on this win ranger
[03:14:43] Such fast rotations, you know from Navi this time they were much quicker in terms of how they wanted to react
[03:14:47] But immediately you saw play time they could bring five heroes
[03:14:50] Quick clap. They're gonna get another stack on this ancients as well. It should. Looks like he did do it in the time
[03:14:57] There we are quite a juicy stack. He didn't over in the river! Niku, he's got him! So load
[03:15:03] That's not what you need to see from the Kesden needs to carry them.
[03:15:08] That model controlling him perfectly and he's gonna have that the
[03:15:13] thing this stuff. It might have been which sort of struggling on the same
[03:15:17] level I've got the juice but after he clears up the stack there's gonna be
[03:15:21] quite the distance between these two carries. And Frank goes green. He buys
[03:15:25] Midas. An item that I also like a bit but absolutely can see why when he's
[03:15:31] Snowballing this hard you're not using any of the tax feed really too much on this girl
[03:15:35] But no he's gonna build a farm like crazy and yet if he gets blink BKB
[03:15:38] There's not really any answers for him unless the case gets a perfect angle and as we've seen
[03:15:43] He can get the black holes at this stage the game without needing to have a blink
[03:15:46] So you know the the greed will certainly looks very likely to pay off
[03:15:51] Position I usually don't like minuses. I always tell you this but I'm perfectly fine with him doing this this game
[03:15:57] Especially with the lead that they have they're gonna put the pressure towers anyway
[03:16:00] Got the juice pretty far up, so...
[03:16:02] You make it caught?
[03:16:04] Just a little short there with the jump on me, showing Fat got the juice.
[03:16:06] The term of the power shot is not going to risk sticking around to try and for the kill, though.
[03:16:10] No run.
[03:16:11] Has to run away.
[03:16:12] His recovery is going to be much slower, too.
[03:16:14] He did not have a 6x ancient stack, and none can he farm that type of stack as a win ranger.
[03:16:18] He's come back through kills at the same bottom.
[03:16:21] Easy kill.
[03:16:23] I mean Niku's got the super happy game for himself on this case. Let's see if he can make these rotations come together
[03:16:31] At least get him some extra cuz he's only got the one so far and might find scope
[03:16:37] I think what no they want to try and see if they can get down larger instead
[03:16:41] Little silence. He has got the old ready
[03:16:44] As he's gonna just be able to swashbuckle up the high ground roll away
[03:16:48] He wants to roll back in.
[03:16:50] Good angle here.
[03:16:52] Once again from Darmago completely.
[03:16:54] Locking down the Vennut.
[03:16:58] The reason we do keep angle almost every single game is available.
[03:17:00] Why should they get the sports buckle in the diffusor slot in ECU?
[03:17:02] I won't quite be able to go from the high ground yet.
[03:17:04] Still cool down on the Malifest and the Black Hole.
[03:17:06] Top!
[03:17:08] Dispel on the windrider.
[03:17:10] I'll tell you, I can't see this windrider.
[03:17:12] I mean, I'm telling you, maybe they just keep back standing.
[03:17:14] I don't carry windrider.
[03:17:16] carry win rate I don't understand it maybe the views at home do maybe they
[03:17:19] don't as well I don't know
[03:17:22] usually about a strong game this game it wasn't a mid
[03:17:24] they'll walk up and black hole they'll do it
[03:17:27] that's the kids dead as well
[03:17:30] Frank knows this hero it's his absolute best and he is showcasing it beautifully
[03:17:34] fun to see right it is turning up the series Frank dark sea game to enigma game
[03:17:38] three
[03:17:39] not a lot if anyone else would do that here dream league
[03:17:42] and honestly across the board foot like play time is just outclassing them and
[03:17:45] playing them. Frank, they're gonna go for him. He has Chipped Vest, so we'll be some
[03:17:49] return damage onto the Windranger.
[03:17:50] Let's have a look.
[03:17:51] He's here to help out.
[03:17:53] Freddy's is dead, and got confused.
[03:17:55] He's also dead.
[03:17:56] He is.
[03:17:57] I guess this is out of control.
[03:17:58] This is...
[03:17:59] He feels desperate, honestly. You can tell. God, the juice is probably... it looks like
[03:18:03] almost killed it in a way, right?
[03:18:04] He can't play. He's trying to show up and get kills, and he just can't, and he can't farm
[03:18:07] anywhere.
[03:18:07] It is sad. He has 40 last hits as the carry, and he's one and five.
[03:18:11] There's just not much that he can do. He's trying to get any of these setups, but it's hurting.
[03:18:18] Well, Blink Dag is there for Frick. It is. So he's ready to keep styling on them.
[03:18:24] And the supports continue to thrive as well as we've talked about. These two supports for playtime time and time again.
[03:18:29] They are everywhere. Go field, landing the stuns, blast off El Micho, and they did switch it up this time, right?
[03:18:35] It is Go Field playing with it. We do mention that.
[03:18:37] You want to have some fun on my hero as well.
[03:18:39] I think there could be a lot of supports.
[03:18:41] They want to be playing that.
[03:18:43] I would have played it. No, I would have played it.
[03:18:45] This hero kind of plays it. It's a pretty, I would say easier one in terms of playing in comparison to some of the techies.
[03:18:50] So maybe Skullfield's just like, I don't want to play that.
[03:18:52] It's just nice, right? That everything is such a long cast ring.
[03:18:55] It is. This girl is definitely going to get there.
[03:18:57] You're so elusive.
[03:18:59] The Bushwick cast range is just way too far, honestly.
[03:19:01] And all these players landed pretty beautifully.
[03:19:04] They don't be
[03:19:06] How do they have to get things together? It's gonna have to be through farm now at this point
[03:19:09] But as we said SF is caught up completely Midas on the enigma and no BKB black hole counters really
[03:19:18] That's it beside the Kaz with the bash thing that he can do but yeah, it's very impossible very difficult to do that when you're
[03:19:24] Probably the hero they're gonna focus the most
[03:19:26] Somebody's something's gonna make sure they get control of Niko. Can they get the look in a minute?
[03:19:31] try to take advantage but he's not the most fragile eater at this point
[03:19:36] I think he's on as well as his TPs at the ready
[03:19:41] he found Niku first there
[03:19:45] jump back in the Maleficism forces him to run away
[03:19:49] bottom, Riddies
[03:19:51] he's got backup coming
[03:19:54] can they kill Margo? he's actually going to get away
[03:19:56] the bush whack comes in
[03:19:58] Don't monger trying to roll up at the start? Is there? They'll kill off the pangol.
[03:20:01] Nicely done.
[03:20:03] We'll lose Riddies.
[03:20:05] Just like last time, as soon as they get PMA with the ATOS, they can at least get a core kill to start getting something going.
[03:20:16] Now Blackhole will be back up.
[03:20:19] Mhm.
[03:20:19] And Darkmago, I imagine he buys the shard almost immediately after this play also,
[03:20:23] because then he doesn't have to worry about getting caught inside of that underlord thing as much,
[03:20:26] So, does have Blink now, we'll be able to go back for that and have the protection himself, also.
[03:20:31] Does have to worry about the silence, that's probably the biggest thing that fits in the silences that they can't get.
[03:20:36] Yeah, playtime. 9k lead, controlling enemy jungle.
[03:20:41] And again, you know, this time around, like the Ditting Game 2, they have ways to take objectives, right?
[03:20:47] Even more so, arguably now that they have the Enigma, ready to hit buildings, their objectives.
[03:20:52] The odd lungs, wits, and skull field, looking to put...
[03:20:58] Pushed PMA out of this bottom lane, I'd imagine. Dark Maga is in the area.
[03:21:02] They might be out of punish!
[03:21:04] And they will!
[03:21:06] A couple of back-to-back deaths there from Dark Maga.
[03:21:08] As his team was coming to connect, and Navi's gonna be able to reset away because they have that vision in the lane too.
[03:21:13] Big kills.
[03:21:15] Had a very necessary moment here too. Got the juice. Still having difficulties recovering, but...
[03:21:20] Niku, and PMS shown that they can find these kills if they oscillate them.
[03:21:26] And he has carried games before in the main cast.
[03:21:28] Yes.
[03:21:29] This is why they like it, Navi.
[03:21:36] Can you all up the accident? I mean, I'm infinitely better timing than the last one.
[03:21:39] Oh, yeah, way better than the last one.
[03:21:40] So we'll see what he can do together with it after getting these two massive kills on Dark Mago.
[03:21:44] Mago. The mines still have something to deal with of course as we saw a couple
[03:21:51] times there's a big area that they don't really have access to freely. Can't stand
[03:21:55] illusions to start clearing them but there's a lot of parts there. So he'll start sending a
[03:22:02] couple to clear but yeah there's a insane amount up here at this point. And a de-spawn.
[03:22:10] one. How's that?
[03:22:13] Yeah, no fun really trying to take control of this area.
[03:22:19] Someone's got to do it. It's a dirty job.
[03:22:21] If he gets a bush, what whack in a sharp shot, Mike?
[03:22:24] I don't have this, but Daze knows.
[03:22:27] He's not going to risk being out that deep anymore.
[03:22:29] And there's the blink dagger for Witt. So easy follow up for him.
[03:22:32] If Frank does find the big black holes.
[03:22:34] They have triple blinks on the course. Looking for the aggressive play forward for PMA.
[03:22:37] is super low gets out in time to finish up that ancient slowing things down start
[03:22:42] to make a recovery in terms of gold now it's from done now forgot the juicers
[03:22:48] bomb will start to pick up a little bit they do have at least two quarter or
[03:22:51] three the three core items to play around here PMA has the ATOS and he buys
[03:22:55] the shard as well to to throw that firestorm on it's all about buffing up
[03:22:59] niku right throw that firestorm on him throw the
[03:23:02] Let him try to run rampage.
[03:23:04] Some more nice stacks there for Wits.
[03:23:08] On the way towards that BKB that he's going to look towards next.
[03:23:12] RV, see what they can find with the smoke plate.
[03:23:14] Towards the bottom.
[03:23:16] They can control this area. They could potentially contest or look for a tormentor as well.
[03:23:20] Misho.
[03:23:22] They'll have to sell for the techies.
[03:23:24] Taser.
[03:23:25] Get purge.
[03:23:27] They're going to have it.
[03:23:28] So, look at the techies.
[03:23:29] Look at the techies!
[03:23:32] Oh, which just backed up and...
[03:23:33] He just got the 14-minute shrine at 19 minutes,
[03:23:35] because they're playing so aggressively forward
[03:23:37] that they can go backward, ever.
[03:23:41] Can he get more down?
[03:23:41] I mean, Dark Marga is hanging around.
[03:23:44] He has shard now, though.
[03:23:45] Much harder for them to bring him down and go for the chain.
[03:23:47] They have to get the silence for a sun initially.
[03:23:52] Still back up, Tormentor.
[03:23:53] It's something that they can look for on the side of Navi.
[03:23:55] Can play time, Garen, time to do something about that?
[03:23:58] I'll just let Narvi take that.
[03:23:59] I'll be my just kill too fast.
[03:24:01] Looks like they want to try and go for PMA in the mid instead.
[03:24:03] Ooh!
[03:24:05] They're gonna start keeping over to help.
[03:24:07] Yeah, it's a bit too deep for them to dive now.
[03:24:08] They can't, so they want the Tormentor.
[03:24:10] We'll be able to finish that.
[03:24:13] Sharper days.
[03:24:14] Pretty good one.
[03:24:15] Not too shabby, anything you can to throw onto some of these cores to protect them.
[03:24:23] Can you disbarite the Malifists?
[03:24:25] Some of these spell lamps.
[03:24:26] Lucky shot, some decent things to dispel.
[03:24:32] I'm looking to get into position here, playtank.
[03:24:34] They have not touched this tower yet, a bit surprising.
[03:24:36] It is literal full HP on the bottom tower that PMA was around.
[03:24:41] And now they continue to make this recovery.
[03:24:46] Even got the juice, starting to get to this more comfortable spot with the maelstrom.
[03:24:50] Hasn't died again.
[03:24:52] He was 1-5 with 40 last hits, he's up to the 1-10 without dying.
[03:24:56] Finding those kills on Mago has slowed down the momentum of playtime a good amount here.
[03:25:03] The BKB though for Frank, it is done.
[03:25:05] So let's see how much more playtime wants to force the issue because they've slowed
[03:25:09] down a lot.
[03:25:10] This is not what we've seen from playtime too much.
[03:25:12] No, no, this is certainly giving Navi a much better chance than they're ever adding in
[03:25:16] to.
[03:25:17] Mm-hmm.
[03:25:18] Is there another specific timing that they are particularly waiting for?
[03:25:26] He waits, he's still a bit away from that BKB.
[03:25:30] I wonder if they go to set up for the Roche soon on the side of playtime.
[03:25:35] Maybe just feeling a bit hesitant after losing Dark Mago toys.
[03:25:41] Navi, they're afraid of a move right now. Look how they're positioned around the map.
[03:25:52] Everybody being super careful. Early jam. Usually playtime do this quite often. Maybe feeling
[03:26:02] like they are just getting avoided. Don't want this to happen anymore. And let's see
[03:26:06] if they do force that Roshan. Because they do kill it quite quickly with DSF plus the
[03:26:09] Pango.
[03:26:14] Navi, can they contest? They have to walk through this mines area.
[03:26:16] I'm gonna tell them the mines are just completely blocking off the easy way to get to this.
[03:26:21] I mean, Riddies is gonna walk up, take two, but there's a couple more.
[03:26:29] He's dealing with them.
[03:26:30] It's funny, but surely...
[03:26:31] The rush is dying.
[03:26:33] They actually closing on the pit in time.
[03:26:36] Power shot to scout.
[03:26:37] It's already on the way to get the pickup. I'll go sit see if they can catch Niku
[03:26:44] He's out
[03:26:47] Long thunder is used
[03:26:49] And not be take advantage of it at all from the look for on me show
[03:26:52] But I'm sure just jumps and aggressive you with the blast off and he's able to breathe on days with him
[03:26:57] They use the purge at least to get that kill set up on some there, but an exchange
[03:27:01] Now if you have to be very careful with that positioning, it's a blink, so Niku is going
[03:27:07] to be able to potentially stop that black hole, right?
[03:27:10] He can do it if he gets that bash angle, right?
[03:27:13] He can find it.
[03:27:15] See if he's able to always find that angle though.
[03:27:18] Because I do think he's probably the biggest priority that we're mentioning in getting
[03:27:21] him to the black hole.
[03:27:22] Oh, they try for a rep beam on twin.
[03:27:25] I'm not quite having to get the set up.
[03:27:27] would have been a tricky one
[03:27:34] that is growing thunder cool down that is requiem cool down
[03:27:38] it doesn't look like nafi has
[03:27:41] any idea to go for an aggressive play here even with those down
[03:27:45] the fear of the black hole is still there
[03:27:50] and frank's gonna go for the big play right he's going for the agonies as well too we've
[03:27:53] seen him do it in the past
[03:27:54] they're smoked up
[03:27:56] Roll back up in about 10 seconds.
[03:27:59] And they're just in, ready?
[03:28:01] We're trying to proceed the out.
[03:28:03] Last off stone coming in.
[03:28:05] Which ready's got.
[03:28:06] Push continues here on towards the tier two.
[03:28:10] Just ages.
[03:28:12] I don't think Navi's gonna contest down here.
[03:28:15] Still look to recover, forgot the juice.
[03:28:17] He really needs the BKB to be able to turn up into these fights.
[03:28:50] But the rolling done is there from dark Marga on towards PMA bush back as well dark Marga
[03:28:56] He'll dive in find cut the juicer beyond the TSE tower. He'll get taken out
[03:29:01] What a pain Riddies also gets caught by the man of the rather than a days will jump in
[03:29:05] But he's just gonna be dead again. I
[03:29:09] Get Frank, but it cost them everything
[03:29:13] Baby that it almost felt like it right which he has the ages here
[03:29:17] They want to go for the press to play cats waiting in the way all in on the SF that at least you know
[03:29:22] Niku did he went straight for him
[03:29:24] But the SF of an ages and around these tier twos is there's a reason why I feel a lot of teams
[03:29:30] They wouldn't decide to try and defend in this position. No it got to do it
[03:29:34] He was about to have his BKB finished
[03:29:36] He feels obligated to help his team and join down here almost actually gets the kill onto wits
[03:29:41] But then it's like oh my god. I don't have my BKB now and I die again
[03:29:47] Back to the game, PMA respawning, looking for Amisho.
[03:29:54] Full behind.
[03:29:56] Another staircase.
[03:29:58] Like that.
[03:29:59] Failed defense there for Navi, definitely going to set them back quite a bit on that sort of road test.
[03:30:05] Stabilizing the game a little bit, but now crumbling away.
[03:30:10] The playtime know how to play with this aggressive type of posture, exactly there they forced a move from Navi that perhaps they didn't really want to make there, so hurts a lot there for the progression of this wind ranger back to the bottom.
[03:30:26] And now taking advantage of these ulti's right, perhaps on the side of Navi they want to smoke up and look for a play cause black hole is uncooled them, but see if they can find the angle cause immediately we do see playtime just resetting their positioning, waiting for those ulti's to come back up.
[03:30:40] Because this is where they can't look for that kill.
[03:30:48] Now, pinging where the enigma is, but Dark the Juice is gonna go on first.
[03:30:52] Let's jump forward.
[03:30:54] We're gonna BKB and run.
[03:30:56] And Dark Mago's putting a lot of damage to Got the Juice here as he rolls on forward.
[03:30:59] Juice?
[03:31:00] Backup's coming in through the fiend's gate.
[03:31:02] BKB about to end. Dark Mago trying to stay on top of them.
[03:31:05] Nice disruption.
[03:31:06] Comes in clutch there, days.
[03:31:07] You've got the juice to chance to win run away jump off from Frank though and wait in on two riddies to find the banner
[03:31:17] And I'll go spread onto four heroes you go thinking about jumping back in because the SFB kibbe's on cooldown
[03:31:24] Doesn't have any information though
[03:31:29] My goodness got the juice barely gets out there to those right on top of them
[03:31:33] not able to really take full advantage of the cooldowns black hole it's back up
[03:31:39] now yep with the agonims ready to go
[03:31:44] you know oh my goodness
[03:31:49] hope back at them there with the echo slash he's playing with fire
[03:31:55] Frank is in the area gonna respect the fact that that black holes back up
[03:32:03] Level 20 starting to be hit, Dark Mubble. Dark Muggle has gotten it, that rolling thunder, even longer.
[03:32:09] And they're smoking up, they've got everything ready.
[03:32:12] BKB still on cooldown, forgot the juice for 10 seconds.
[03:32:23] Top looks like they should be able to get this kill.
[03:32:26] Me show playing.
[03:32:28] It's completely alone, but almost brings down Niku.
[03:32:34] Ready, go.
[03:32:37] Damn, one small.
[03:32:39] Anytime a hero shows.
[03:32:47] That BKB black hole thread constantly there.
[03:32:50] We're got the juice. We said he's recovering slightly,
[03:32:53] Slightly but that's really all it is. He's not getting to these better points
[03:32:57] He needs to get a fight win get a big war kill somehow on this wind ranger to catch up
[03:33:01] And we've seen even farm win ranges not really do too. No, it's
[03:33:06] It's a tough time. It is. It's still a lot of that pressure as we were saying on Niku. It feels like to really full carry
[03:33:16] And we need is getting pretty massive again right 15,000 the support starting to get some big pickups too
[03:33:22] Static now on the shadow fiend also hitting level 20
[03:33:27] Playtime wants to hit again
[03:33:30] Oh my god, let's check out the situation
[03:33:35] See the apron days look to the stop which wakes that oh
[03:33:40] Swashbuckle
[03:33:43] Every single time you can't make these moves it's much easier for them to make any aggressive move than napping
[03:33:48] Immediately swinging over, Roche, about 45 seconds till we find out.
[03:33:55] Playtime just not wanting to let Navi get outside, get that extra farm.
[03:33:59] Immediately sweep over and over again, just shrink the map.
[03:34:03] Super impressive that the way that they were able to play today.
[03:34:08] Even in the game that they lost, right, they were super aggressive.
[03:34:12] And that was the hypostone of the Mjolnir sniped away, so two minutes set back there on the Mjolnir completion.
[03:34:19] Might be a timing around that rush too, but he would have had it.
[03:34:23] And Misha was just farming like crazy on this techies too, right? We're seeing him queue up the Crimson Guard, something that kind of hard counters Windranger.
[03:34:29] Maybe it's not on the best hero to overall get it, but not too shabby.
[03:34:36] It's time to moment it. We'll fall back into their hands. Sharp brown Misha.
[03:34:40] He's fairly tanky, even, because he's just so rich, he's so tanky that the scrims will have some good effect.
[03:34:45] Misha is getting focused.
[03:34:47] They're going for him quite a lot.
[03:34:49] And they'll get him, Frank. He's gonna go for the black hole.
[03:34:52] He gets the pass. Just put to a stop.
[03:34:54] They can turn the spider around.
[03:34:55] But Lorda burst onto Niku, though the Raze is coming in as well.
[03:34:58] Niku, he's gonna try and parry himself to safety, but they've still got him.
[03:35:03] He may have saved his body, but he pays at this life.
[03:35:06] And now, did he save his body?
[03:35:08] I don't know, I got the juicer bench, he's down by Darmago.
[03:35:11] He did not.
[03:35:13] Feels impossible.
[03:35:14] He tried, he actually gets the bash, he saves the win ranger and then nobody else can contribute anything.
[03:35:20] Playtime, there's all over him.
[03:35:23] The execution is, honestly, it's quite beautiful to watch from playtime today.
[03:35:31] To the high ground.
[03:35:32] Should probably be able to finish off this Rax before they respawn in time too
[03:35:37] with the idolons with the drum.
[03:35:40] At least before the two main cores respawn.
[03:35:45] Two, three, gone.
[03:35:48] And they came to play their own.
[03:35:50] They really did. They really did, they really did.
[03:35:53] And as you mentioned, just even in the game one that they, let's slip away.
[03:35:57] There was a lot of things to take away from that very positively
[03:36:01] in favour of what playtime we're able to do in a lot of parts of the game.
[03:36:05] Yeah, they're absolutely so far so good.
[03:36:07] They're a better team right now and Navi, they have to do something crazy to turn this one around
[03:36:11] versus these constant black holes that...
[03:36:12] Every time when you get behind like this too, it's like every fight you take, the black holes back up.
[03:36:17] So it's super hard to take advantage of any of these cooldowns.
[03:36:20] Another Rose shot.
[03:36:21] Another Rose too.
[03:36:22] They might have killed him for this, but you go for the Rose fight.
[03:36:28] They're gonna try.
[03:36:29] Seemscape, giving some information.
[03:36:33] Scares them off it for now.
[03:36:37] Black Hole is cooldown still for 60.
[03:36:45] It's late time though. Very smartly done, right? They don't
[03:36:49] force the roach, don't feel like they need to commit in there and give the fight to Navi.
[03:36:53] They can just wait, sit back for that Black Hole, and then go for the fight
[03:36:57] themselves. Octarene is well now on Frank. So he's that literally his best hero. He is displaying that.
[03:37:09] Super clean plays. Witt's almost having the MKB as well for the Windranger.
[03:37:17] And Frank, he just knows as long as I don't get caught right now we're gonna have Black Hole for
[03:37:21] the fight and Navi cannot fight into that. I'm not able to make it over to air and set up.
[03:37:27] And now Namiya, I don't think you can go to the play where you go for the Roast into the Black Hole.
[03:37:32] So let's try with the power shot to get some info.
[03:37:38] One time.
[03:37:41] Just for what?
[03:37:42] Just a great shot calling.
[03:37:44] Cross the board here.
[03:37:45] Banner, Misha will be able to grab that.
[03:37:47] He's got the Crimson Guard finished. He's going to go the Oris for the team.
[03:37:53] BKB finished up for Niku, so has a bit more survivability.
[03:37:57] Not too much more damage increased at least for him.
[03:38:00] Got the juice, does have that view on their BKB Freddy's, but as we've seen, he just can't get into the fights.
[03:38:05] I was gonna say, I don't know, do they want to take one of their last fights potentially
[03:38:24] right at the tier two?
[03:38:25] That's a bit of a risk.
[03:38:26] They'll back up, go back to the base.
[03:38:41] Just continue sweep, every single time.
[03:38:43] Kill top, sweep down toward bottom, get the push gong as well.
[03:38:45] Deny away the ancients, they have the Aegis still as well.
[03:38:48] And the MKB has come out now for Wich too, so he can't just focus the Wind Ranger.
[03:38:56] I'm trying to think how for nob you like how do you approach the fight you have to get full focus fires maybe on the SF kill him with the ages so that the focus fire persists and you have to avoid black or there's just there's so many layers
[03:39:12] I mean, I just show you, BKB is not going to last long enough for you to do that amount of damage right now.
[03:39:17] And there's that control, right? Multiple different forms of it. BKB, Satanic as well. Do you even have the damage to kill the SF?
[03:39:26] This is also this Crimson Guard and these Greaves. Yeah, there's this insane amount of preparation that Playtime has gotten to this point with a full Clypnir for the Hoodling as well.
[03:39:35] Further control.
[03:39:38] He was going for Hex, but switched it up on Skopefield as well.
[03:39:42] Double catapult, 35 minutes, they've got the banner, seen a couple teams use this banner
[03:39:53] in that position that we see where the catapults stay alive even though the creeps die, the
[03:39:57] banner is very hard to hit in this position.
[03:40:00] I'll jump, Margot, and Frank ready to jump.
[03:40:06] They'll send the illusions to try to go for that banner.
[03:40:10] You may.
[03:40:17] Yep, here go the catapults.
[03:40:20] Chackle.
[03:40:26] Frank, he's just waiting in the wings.
[03:40:29] the tumble toy as well too for the distance.
[03:40:31] Wits, we're starting to instantly heal up.
[03:40:33] Dartmar goes in.
[03:40:35] The pushback and the Molly Thunder on a PMA
[03:40:37] Wits bringing in the damage.
[03:40:38] They have the defensive disruption coming into play,
[03:40:40] but Dartmargo finds him off to the side,
[03:40:42] comes back in over towards PMA.
[03:40:43] PMA will...
[03:40:44] will he get out?
[03:40:45] Break.
[03:40:46] PMA doesn't live.
[03:40:48] Dartmargo's in with a shield crash.
[03:40:49] Now Wits isn't on the side,
[03:40:50] got the juice out to put the BKB and run.
[03:40:52] He's gonna try and jump back up towards Wits.
[03:40:54] He's gonna chuckle.
[03:40:55] Nah, it doesn't matter. BKB's already up from Wits.
[03:40:57] the ground here against Niku. Niku, having a retreat as well as if he comes to an end.
[03:41:01] Wits, he'll turn over towards Riddies. Destruction will stay for Riddies for now.
[03:41:07] Black Hole still at the ready. Requiem still at the ready.
[03:41:10] I'm just a slow push succeeding. The tier 3's gone.
[03:41:13] Navi had to use both BKBs pretty defensively again, and the threat of that Black Hole is
[03:41:18] always there. Niku was waiting in the trees for so long and then Wits just blinks on top
[03:41:22] of them breaks their formation fall back a little bit so I think Frank also did so
[03:41:37] all right yeah still back up reset just felt gaining so much more out of the map
[03:41:42] Navi unable to step outside and here come these neutral items as well some
[03:41:45] pretty big ones
[03:41:52] Mishou continued to control the outside of this base too. Pretty interesting build he's gone for to the blink on the techies to follow up, right?
[03:41:58] He does have a lot of explosive damage if they do get any of these combos.
[03:42:01] And when you set up these mines on the outside too, it's like, if Navi does get a successful fight when he wants to chase forward, they may just die as well too.
[03:42:11] Yeah, there's, I mean honestly, it's quite beautiful to see how play time is preparing for like anything that can happen.
[03:42:17] The fleet just continues to grow.
[03:42:19] More and more pickups of Bastion for Dark Mago now.
[03:42:26] Frank.
[03:42:28] Look at the Lincoln's. That's about your protection.
[03:42:37] Amitabha.
[03:42:38] He's alone.
[03:42:40] We'll get a kill.
[03:42:42] They do come in there. We've got the juicers BKB.
[03:42:44] That is true. That is a pretty aggressive BKB, but honestly, I think you take it as long as you don't die now with BKB on
[03:42:52] Cool-down, you don't get chased into the base, so then a cool-down kills a kill
[03:43:01] And they may just play the you know economy war until that roche does pretend to come back up to go for the push
[03:43:06] Wait for the banners as well
[03:43:10] Unless the fight kind of just approaches them perfectly
[03:43:12] They're getting a little bit of time to get the next time, so let's not be mm-hmm
[03:43:17] Still massive 30 K behind
[03:43:22] So close it's a two or three full items behind on the course compared to their counterparts at this point
[03:43:30] It's a good thing is raised they can grow but yeah is the question is are they gonna be able to as playtime now?
[03:43:36] Looking for a catch potentially outside the base.
[03:43:40] They have a sneaky ward that is scouting PMA.
[03:43:46] I can don't know when... I didn't see Skopjeal placed that one earlier.
[03:43:52] They're just keeping in. They're looking for the fight outside.
[03:43:57] I'm not gonna do this.
[03:43:59] Jumping from the window and there's the back hole coming in at the side.
[03:44:01] Can they stop it? They can, but it's too late.
[03:44:03] Too late, they've already lost the four of them!
[03:44:05] Effectively, Neekoo's dead as well as they can chase into the face with the rolling thunder.
[03:44:10] That might be it.
[03:44:11] This valley will...
[03:44:12] The BKB's about to come to an end.
[03:44:14] Ultra kill for Witt.
[03:44:16] He's supposed to put the rampage.
[03:44:17] That's the if they can tracerate it up for him.
[03:44:18] Vace is gonna hold him back. They're coming in with the buyback.
[03:44:21] Frank Malifist, can they get Witt's?
[03:44:22] There he is!
[03:44:23] Rampage for Witt!
[03:44:25] GG.
[03:44:25] He might even get himself another.
[03:44:26] He does the double rampage.
[03:44:28] It's over!
[03:44:29] GG's called playtime!
[03:44:31] take game three and with that Navi's future of moving to the eSports World Cup is in the hands of
[03:44:38] the next matchup right it's going to be what playtime versus bet boom if playtime win that best
[03:44:43] of three they'll be going to eSports World Cup if bet boom win it Navi will serve everything
[03:44:47] oh man in that next series that Navi's going to have to brutally watch and just hope for the best
[03:44:53] for them whilst playtime they can decide their own fate if they can get that next win so already
[03:44:58] that first step of 2 achieved here today by getting the victory against Na'Vi and it was a very convincing one.
[03:45:08] Honestly, play time, they were absolutely the better team and it felt like by a long margin.
[03:45:13] That first game, Niku went Super Saiyan, put the team on his back, they were able to stall the game long enough.
[03:45:18] But honestly, play time is so aggressive today. It felt like such a mismatch for Na'Vi.
[03:45:23] A lot of the games that have seen them play, they've been able to kind of bring it back, fight into a lot of these teams.
[03:45:28] Plague time was honestly just relentless and in their own style, which is just a lot of fun to see when we're seeing a lot of teams just bring back the same heroes again and again.
[03:45:37] This time it's the Enigma from Frank that looks fantastic.
[03:45:41] What a game, what a series for play time and has remained you still yet to be convinced by these carry win ranges and make cases, unfortunately.
[03:45:49] Plague time, then move forward. 2-1 here against Navi.
[03:45:53] This was the enigma show, the Frank show, what a treat to watch unless you're a Navi fan,
[03:45:59] in which case, this was a very painful one to see here.
[03:46:03] Yeah, this was not it. I don't like mid-kes. I feel like unless this hero has very clear purpose,
[03:46:12] it just doesn't look good. And I feel like you really need some way to utilize it.
[03:46:16] It's a silence, doesn't have a high infection in the game. It's just not going to work out for you.
[03:46:20] Also, with Rampage at the end, second coming of Miracle, maybe, who knows?
[03:46:25] Who knows?
[03:46:26] There's already a threat already.
[03:46:27] I've got a couple of years to catch up to him too, so you know.
[03:46:31] Is that true?
[03:46:32] This guy is good, like all of playtime played really well.
[03:46:34] I have agreed with the Kess, I think Midkess can't work, but did you see his safe lane?
[03:46:39] He didn't have a safe lane.
[03:46:40] Yeah, but that's his fault.
[03:46:41] Why isn't his fault?
[03:46:42] Your mid laner's job is to kill the side lanes.
[03:46:44] He got first picked.
[03:46:45] Yeah, but mid laner's job is to gank the side lanes.
[03:46:49] I think Gwyn would say that if this is my safe lane, I can't go there.
[03:46:54] But how can they win safe lane when they have no mid?
[03:46:56] How about they pick different safe lanes?
[03:46:59] Last pick.
[03:47:00] Okay, you're playing mid.
[03:47:01] Your job is to gank safe lane and win the last game.
[03:47:03] Listen guys, we're focused on the wrong shit here, okay?
[03:47:05] Because, well, think about this.
[03:47:07] We got a team.
[03:47:08] They were South American rejects, okay?
[03:47:11] Nobody cared about these guys.
[03:47:12] The only team that cared was Heroic because they were sometimes losing to them in qualifiers.
[03:47:16] X-Heroic.
[03:47:17] They came to tournaments.
[03:47:19] They did okay, they were mediocre.
[03:47:21] When the games went to fail and people farmed,
[03:47:24] they had no idea what to do.
[03:47:26] They were like chickens with their heads cut off.
[03:47:27] Sure, they could fight, but that's all they could do, right?
[03:47:29] They would just sit there and farm.
[03:47:31] Then we started seeing them actually make moves
[03:47:33] and like, holy shit, this is a real team
[03:47:35] and they can team fight.
[03:47:36] And then we see them make subversive moves
[03:47:39] like they did in this series
[03:47:41] and dominate a team that has been doing really well.
[03:47:43] Like Navi has had really good performance.
[03:47:45] It was basically top of the group.
[03:47:46] There was a six and one.
[03:47:47] It's so cool for me to watch this story of this team slowly getting better and better to the point where I just I want them to go to EWC
[03:47:55] I want them to beat Betboom. I have a quick question. What does subversive mean?
[03:47:59] Subversive means you expect a certain thing from them and they just do something
[03:48:04] But in order to subvert you first have to know how to do the thing you're subverting
[03:48:09] You gotta set a baseline. You're subverting from the base. I think it's the chair. It's the chair. It is the chair
[03:48:15] Yeah, I mean I'm soaking up you're making great points. Yeah
[03:48:19] Sounds good, like I just I genuinely think it's really cool to watch because it it's something that should take a very long time
[03:48:26] But they're doing it so quickly
[03:48:27] It was literally a week ago that Navi too well play time in the group stages
[03:48:33] It's also we've seen a lot of like the four players switching to five like you had drew who's performing really well in this tournament
[03:48:39] It's the same for Almey show like I like this boss for not that long ago
[03:48:43] But swapping roles like this, it's really not that easy, but he really feels like he's kind of home
[03:48:48] Like his heroes are working really well. What is the hoodwing or the techies?
[03:48:51] Yeah, you said it earlier in the tournament
[03:48:53] Maybe there is something with like the patch normal fives being played as five, but they all look amazing
[03:48:58] No, for sure. I mean, I think they're getting a little bit carried by the patch like you don't have to learn these new heroes or play this like more
[03:49:04] five style five
[03:49:05] So definitely there is something to it and it seems like a lot of the teams that have done the switch are doing better
[03:49:10] Yeah, yeah
[03:49:12] Oh, that bodes well, actually, for the no offense shiever, but I think, in Insane Ambient, traditional 5 is boring as hell, so...
[03:49:19] Hey, I've been playing Windranger on all positions lately, so I'm fine.
[03:49:22] I'm gonna go into those public pudges, that's what I'm hearing.
[03:49:25] That's a traditional 4 right there.
[03:49:27] Well, we can say this is actually the only series in the first round of the low bracket that went to 2-0.
[03:49:33] It didn't go 2-0, that's a lie! We were here for all three games!
[03:49:38] We're a bit too dead of a boss.
[03:49:39] I've seen it happen.
[03:49:40] That's a good idea.
[03:49:41] It was a long time ago!
[03:49:43] That's how much of a splatter it was.
[03:49:45] Is it we're just calling it, we're retconning it to 0.
[03:49:47] I mean, this could have been a 3-0.
[03:49:49] If we're being real.
[03:49:51] Yes, I agree.
[03:49:53] And 4-0 if it went to game 4 too, like these last two games were...
[03:49:56] I don't know about that one. I think if they got to play another game right now, they would not have picked Kes.
[03:50:01] And then they would win.
[03:50:03] But then the Necro would come out.
[03:50:04] No, but Kes would have gone safely and killed the Nigma eight times.
[03:50:07] That could have worked.
[03:50:08] Yes, that's what Kes does.
[03:50:09] Yeah, well there is no fourth game, and we did see in that lower bracket
[03:50:15] Bedboom is the one to play up against playtime and that is gonna be very important because Navi is gonna be
[03:50:21] Routing for a bit so hard and what are the implications for bedboom themselves? They already in the party in yeah, so
[03:50:28] Playtime is coming in with momentum and yeah with purpose yeah as well
[03:50:32] And I feel like they had purpose today, and it looks really good on them
[03:50:36] So I'm a little worried for bed boom going into that series actually
[03:50:40] I'm really happy for playtime cause also not just how they played but the stuff they picked like you have a last pick
[03:50:45] Darkseer not something we've seen very often. He destroys you have the first enigma game. He destroys they look good. They play clean
[03:50:52] Looks good
[03:50:54] Okay, but that boom is a different piece
[03:50:56] I feel like you know, you know this meme were like this little like low rank
[03:51:01] Guys walking and then like the big chads come in. Yeah
[03:51:04] Yeah, I feel like Navi's like the low rank guy and Betboom's like the big chud.
[03:51:07] They were all in the same group.
[03:51:09] Okay? They were all group B. Right?
[03:51:12] Yeah.
[03:51:13] Navi, top of the group.
[03:51:15] Panorvision, second of the group.
[03:51:17] Betboom, third of the group.
[03:51:19] Statistically, they're going up against the worst team.
[03:51:23] It also means that they already played against each other
[03:51:25] and they did when they played against Navi first.
[03:51:27] They got 2-0 smashed and they now make a comeback.
[03:51:30] So that was not close and they made a comeback.
[03:51:32] to come back the previous series they played against Betboom they did lose but it was a
[03:51:36] three game series. What Shiva is saying is that Navi were the bigger Chunguses. Yes they
[03:51:41] already beat them. Yes look at these group stage standings but Extreme Gaming took out
[03:51:45] Team Liquid too and that's a big Chungus right there as well. I also feel like Navi is more
[03:51:50] of a group stage team. That is very true. On hindsight yes. No. For other tournaments
[03:51:57] I would say he's already speaking there. I feel like if you look at a lot of tournaments
[03:52:00] They have figured out the group stage part of the tournament. They are still figuring out other than like the one blast
[03:52:04] They just don't know yet how it works. Yeah, like it's like a whole group stage was best of threes
[03:52:09] Yeah, but it's different. It's different. It's like okay. Yeah, it's like when you learn Dota you learn early game
[03:52:14] Then you learn mid game then you learn late the Dota ABC and they learned like early game group stage
[03:52:18] But they're like still figuring out the mid game
[03:52:22] It really is the chair
[03:52:30] This point was actually true. It's correct. It's true, but like the
[03:52:36] Put these on
[03:52:39] This is minus aura he's already struggling guys
[03:52:42] We all enjoyed watching playtime and I think we're all gonna enjoy watching playtime play tomorrow
[03:52:48] But low bracket is done for a little while if you want to see bit boom playtime fight for their spot
[03:52:52] And you know we see you got to tune in tomorrow
[03:52:54] But today we're gonna continue our day and it's time for the upper bracket semi-finals two of them
[03:53:00] a row. Those are four of the best teams in the world that are going to be coming into action
[03:53:06] in just a little while. So stay tuned for Falcons vs Paravigion.
[03:53:30] This is like the perfect day to catch the sun and dance to my ear
[03:53:57] Oh, my friends, you're right by my side.
[03:54:02] You're lighting up the darkest night.
[03:54:07] Now they play your favorite song.
[03:54:12] Everybody sing along.
[03:54:17] Sunlight makes me smile.
[03:54:22] I'm just gonna jump in the sky
[03:54:27] I'm gonna feel great, my stride
[03:54:32] This is good time, good time, you're feeling fine
[03:54:37] Music is good, we're not riding on the ride
[03:54:43] Oh, there's no tears, no more you're hiding
[03:54:47] No more you're hiding
[03:54:49] I'm the nature, bright in the sky
[03:54:54] I can see it in your eyes
[03:54:59] The sunlight makes me smile
[03:55:04] My friends are drunk in wine
[03:55:09] No one will break my stride
[03:55:14] This is a good time, I'm feeling fine
[03:55:49] For me, it's a good time, it's a good time, it's a good time
[03:55:56] For me, it's a good time
[03:56:19] What you mean is love and all the standing
[03:56:40] Find a heart whose love is true
[03:56:44] Deep down there's only one companion
[03:56:48] Who's there for you when you need him to leave?
[03:56:53] Your heart was broken in a thousand pieces.
[03:56:57] So much pain that you've been through.
[03:57:01] If there's a man who's your salvation, just ask yourself,
[03:57:07] am I ready for you?
[03:57:11] One hundred percent, I'm getting on the stand
[03:57:18] Yes, I'm getting as high as I'm ready to go
[03:57:23] One hundred percent
[03:57:28] Take a chance in a new direction
[03:57:32] Beauty face, you wanna go
[03:57:36] I don't have all the right answers
[03:57:40] One thing I know, I'm so ready for you
[03:57:44] I'm coming real soon
[03:57:47] I'm getting ready
[03:57:48] I'm coming
[03:57:49] No, I'm ready
[03:57:55] I'm getting ready for you
[03:58:40] And the best way
[03:58:42] 100%
[03:58:44] Now
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[03:59:08] California dreaming, waiting on a feeling That I need, oh, oh, oh
[03:59:17] Everything I'm missing, ain't even the distance It's just me, oh, oh, oh
[03:59:24] Wake, don't wanna wait, no way Can't make peace to me
[03:59:38] Dream League Season 29 is brought to you by DHL and CHECKS.
[04:00:04] Welcome back. We're still watching V-League Student 29. I'm still doing the thing with crystals and
[04:00:11] Changed up my panel a little bit. Aden is still there, but I don't you keep changing places
[04:00:15] I think this is how you've have set there. I think this oh, yeah
[04:00:19] Yeah, I was here for one. I've been everywhere. Yes. Is that your favorite seat?
[04:00:24] Have you tried this one yet? I don't think I've fed all of them
[04:00:27] We're going to swap throughout the car, let's go.
[04:00:29] Hey Mira, how you doing?
[04:00:30] I'm great.
[04:00:31] Have you guys been swapping seats all day?
[04:00:33] I haven't, yes.
[04:00:34] Okay.
[04:00:35] Alright, so Mira, what do you think about this being on the panel with your new co-panelist
[04:00:40] here, Sheever?
[04:00:41] Honestly, it's such an honor working alongside you, Sheever.
[04:00:44] This is a great angle for you as well, Mira.
[04:00:46] Thank you.
[04:00:47] Thank you.
[04:00:48] This is a very lounge-y couch.
[04:00:49] You sink into that couch.
[04:00:50] You definitely do.
[04:00:51] Yeah.
[04:00:52] It's some get-out kind of thing.
[04:00:53] Have you seen that movie?
[04:00:54] kind of thing have you seen that movie maybe never mind remember yeah is this
[04:01:02] your first time being on panel cheaper no I doubled here in there but you know I
[04:01:07] don't get to do a lot of remixes upon this is very cool I'm very little bit
[04:01:11] nervous yeah excited to be here I was super excited to be thankful to be
[04:01:15] giving you the opportunity yes I am yeah you get any otherwise where to say
[04:01:18] how do you think sponsors and stuff should you do this for so long oh yeah
[04:01:21] There are other ways of thanking people.
[04:01:25] I mean usually I just say like thank you Alienware for making this show happen.
[04:01:29] And they didn't make the show happen.
[04:01:31] Oh, sorry. Thank you Czechs for making the show happen.
[04:01:33] Thank you.
[04:01:33] We wouldn't have been here without you guys.
[04:01:35] Thank you Monster Energy for sponsoring.
[04:01:37] They don't.
[04:01:38] Sorry, I'm getting a little confused.
[04:01:41] DHL, DHL, you guys are great.
[04:01:43] Honestly, without you there would be no show.
[04:01:45] So we're very thankful to have you guys sponsoring the show.
[04:01:48] And uh
[04:01:50] Or that's like yeah, I was about to see secret labs, but no you can take the puck jump on that you can take it
[04:01:57] Yeah, you can think right
[04:01:59] Intel I don't know if they still do though. Hmm. Thank you EWC for making a great tournament happen this year
[04:02:04] It's gonna be in Paris if you guys didn't know that is a new location first time ever for EWC, so
[04:02:11] Make sure you check out that tournament
[04:02:18] La Gau. La Gau.
[04:02:20] This boy doesn't get stressed.
[04:02:24] And the PogChampandas, of course, you have to thank the PogChampandas.
[04:02:28] The PogChampandas dropped their album.
[04:02:32] They did. Their second album. Second volume.
[04:02:34] Second volume number two. Check it out.
[04:02:36] Important information for you as well, I see.
[04:02:38] They have officially declared, and we can get the sound kit from the stream somewhere.
[04:02:42] We can use this royalty-free in our streams.
[04:02:46] Wow that's nice kind of you guys. That's so fine very cool. Yeah, I need you guys to do a CDC thunderstruck because of all the Zeus
[04:02:55] No pressure the Zeus memes
[04:02:57] Oh, no!
[04:03:02] Hell yeah, he actually did it!
[04:03:04] He didn't practice that, he just had that!
[04:03:08] No hesitation! He just busted it out!
[04:03:14] That's good!
[04:03:18] Very cool!
[04:03:19] That was so sick! I actually did not tell him to do it, like, he just had that in the tank?
[04:03:24] Can you hear raining blood by his flair?
[04:03:27] I'm kidding.
[04:03:30] But that's only when they pick blood speaker.
[04:03:34] I'll tell you when blood speaker is in that album.
[04:03:36] You can have that ready.
[04:03:37] Yeah, that's cool.
[04:03:39] I'm sure you want to continue the show.
[04:03:40] Of course.
[04:03:41] And after we are being silly on the panel, you guys all know,
[04:03:44] the next thing is our genius Quinn with his Texan friend.
[04:03:48] I appreciate that. Very, very kind words. You know, some kind words is Falcons and Perry vision for themselves as they've been cooking quite a bit this tournament so far. I think they're the two best teams in the tournament.
[04:04:01] Let's talk a little bit about what makes them cook, what makes them click. And I think we can see they have not been cooking that much recently before this tournament. The last time they won a tournament individually was quite some time ago, both of them last year in November and June respectively.
[04:04:17] Effectively and so I think they're both really itching to win a tournament and they've both slowly been getting back in the form after a rough period
[04:04:23] And I think you can see just sort of in the way
[04:04:25] They're acting that they are getting back to a confidence state of mind
[04:04:29] Modern in the past few days has been streaming on the same day. He's playing officials
[04:04:33] He was this is a screenshot from his stream earlier today where he was just playing death probably casually on stream before his official
[04:04:38] And while that maybe seem not may not seem like a ton
[04:04:40] I think it exudes a certain confidence and just sort of you know
[04:04:44] of laxadaisical vibing that he's willing to stream on a day he's playing officially.
[04:04:47] He's not trying to lock and he's just like, I'm playing comfortable, I'm playing chill.
[04:04:51] And that leads into my next point, which is I think Falcons are the dominant leading team
[04:04:55] coming into this.
[04:04:56] They're the only team with zero losses in Dream League so far and they've got their
[04:04:59] four horsemen in the apocalypse back.
[04:05:01] They've got Pangolier, they've got Hosskar, they've got Lone Druid and they've got Clockwork.
[04:05:04] And these heroes are banned in almost every game against Falcons, which leaves your boy
[04:05:08] Lich, who is currently 10 and 1 for Falcons.
[04:05:12] That is a ridiculous stat line for our first pick 5 hero.
[04:05:15] And I think that runs into Paravision, hey, what are you going to do about this first
[04:05:18] phase?
[04:05:19] Which heroes are you going to ban?
[04:05:20] Are you going to lead the Lich?
[04:05:21] Or are you going to try to fight one of the four horsemen?
[04:05:23] Because Falcons is a big boulder sitting in the middle of the road saying, HIT ME!
[04:05:27] HIT ME!
[04:05:28] And you may lead your backwarp, EO, but can you pierce their boulder?
[04:05:31] Alright, thank you very much, Kun.
[04:05:33] Come join us down here at the panel.
[04:05:34] That was very, very insightful.
[04:05:36] The last time I remember the Falcons had a support hero winning this much was the Enchantress.
[04:05:41] The glitch kind of reminds me of that, Shever. What do you make of it?
[04:05:44] I think it's really cool, and you can't address the glitch because there's too many other things to address as per Quinn's point.
[04:05:51] So I think Paravision, I mean, they got to call us. He can play the glitch as well.
[04:05:55] Maybe they'll just get their hands on it first. I don't know if it's going to be the highly contestable Fee.
[04:05:59] You are so right, Shever. Excellent analysis as usual.
[04:06:03] For Horseman, there is only really this one that you can give away.
[04:06:06] But I didn't want to mention Falcons. They lost one game in Canada Tournament to VP and that was versus the Storm Spirit
[04:06:13] And you know what they've done since then? Oh hell yeah. Play Thunderstruck wait. I'm just kidding
[04:06:19] But it was the Storm Spirit and then for the next seven matches they banned Storm Spirit.
[04:06:25] First phase?
[04:06:25] First phase.
[04:06:26] What the heck? That's crazy.
[04:06:28] So they have this read and then there was a series where they kind of like let it go and then a team picked it against them
[04:06:32] and they didn't end up winning with the Storm Spirit.
[04:06:34] But they have this read that Storm is a good hero against him.
[04:06:37] They're not comfortable picking it for themselves.
[04:06:39] They think it's good against their Pango
[04:06:40] and the supports that they've been running.
[04:06:42] So maybe that is a hero to watch for this series.
[04:06:44] Our pair isn't gonna try to get that Storm.
[04:06:47] Yeah, I think it's very possibly true.
[04:06:49] I mean, when I think about Falcons against Liquid specifically,
[04:06:51] I think of them struggling against Storm.
[04:06:53] Because I think, I agree, it is good against Maureen's heroes.
[04:06:56] And it's a hero that Maureen is honestly just kind of bad at.
[04:06:58] And so it makes sense to ban it, right?
[04:07:00] You ban the heroes that you don't play
[04:07:01] and the enemy is good at.
[04:07:02] I do think that, like I think Falcons is super comfortable right now, like I mentioned the
[04:07:06] Four Horsemen thing and I think it's true, I think this team needs that.
[04:07:09] They need like, these are the heroes we pick and they just cycle between them and you pick
[04:07:13] which ones that you ban and then they pick the other ones and they just do this permanent
[04:07:16] cycle where they force you to beat their stuff because they're not like some counter pickers
[04:07:20] honestly, like Malorraine wants the first pick is hero and draw a losing lane, that's
[04:07:24] their bread and butter and they've got their bread and butter.
[04:07:26] There's also the bread and butter between these two teams because they have played each
[04:07:29] other a lot this season, so many series, and overall, I mean not yet this event, but overall
[04:07:36] this entire season, Paravision is actually ahead of games compared to Falcons. It's 5 and 7 in
[04:07:41] favor of Paravision, and I think Aiden would like to say something because there's something that
[04:07:48] I think we all want to see. Is it a break? No, no. Maybe there's like some cool content info piece
[04:07:57] about one of the two teams, which I obviously know which one it is.
[04:08:03] We are going to play some online tournament to prepare.
[04:08:05] We are going to go to the bootcamp to prepare.
[04:08:07] That's very, very, very important tournament for us,
[04:08:09] because we want to get TI in white.
[04:08:11] We don't want to play quals.
[04:08:13] We are going to try hard and show our best.
[04:08:15] And if we speak about why our team is unique,
[04:08:17] I would say we have one of the best mechanical-based players,
[04:08:20] like Zopanik9 class,
[04:08:22] and no one's he's still very skilled mechanically.
[04:08:25] I know it's better.
[04:08:26] If I'm the captain, I know it's better for everything, I would say.
[04:08:31] For myself, for the draft, for the results, for the show,
[04:08:35] I would say, you know, giving the results, if it gets what I want, I'll do it.
[04:08:56] He's gonna low but heal back up and work
[04:08:58] and the additional target will begin to death
[04:09:00] a life, an after kill for a mod
[04:09:03] Are we there going in?
[04:09:04] Hold on, he finds a double chain
[04:09:06] Oh, onto two green targets to blue
[04:09:09] The two supports getting called
[04:09:11] guy completely and Satanic
[04:09:13] and finally put his damage to one
[04:09:15] We are trying our best
[04:09:16] you never give up and let's hope for the best
[04:09:18] I like to make the game exciting
[04:09:20] I'm the one who's like different
[04:09:21] but I also like money so like I wanna win
[04:09:26] You gotta have some motivation when you're already qualified for UDLXV, you know?
[04:09:30] The points is no longer needed, so...
[04:09:33] I'm a big ATF fan. I don't know if that's ever come through, but I love his whole, like, on-screen personality.
[04:09:38] I feel like it's so, so fun. It's great. We need more people like that.
[04:09:42] He's very funny. He's very good, and I think...
[04:09:44] I agree. I think he's great for the scene.
[04:09:47] And I also think, like he says, you know, I really like money.
[04:09:49] I think it's, like, I think it's kind of respectable that, like,
[04:09:52] you only have a short time or you're gonna be a pro player.
[04:09:54] You don't know what you're gonna do after that.
[04:09:55] you don't go to school, you don't have like other outside talent.
[04:09:57] So you're like, hey, I'm gonna earn all this money
[04:09:58] for my family, for my future life,
[04:10:00] so I can give people around me like a better life.
[04:10:02] You know, you don't know what circumstances
[04:10:04] people from come from.
[04:10:05] So when people are like, I really care about the money.
[04:10:06] In some ways, like it may seem like surface level,
[04:10:08] but I also think a lot of that goes to people
[04:10:10] giving back to their families and stuff.
[04:10:11] So I respect that hustle to get what you can
[04:10:14] while you have the opportunity to earn it
[04:10:16] in these short amount of years.
[04:10:17] Yeah, I fully agree.
[04:10:19] I mean, you don't wanna end up like on a panel struggling
[04:10:22] and like having to make up some, you know,
[04:10:24] But yeah, exactly, we're in cat ears.
[04:10:27] You don't want that to happen to you.
[04:10:28] Let me tell you guys.
[04:10:29] So make the most of it while you're down.
[04:10:31] So yeah, wait there.
[04:10:33] I'm sorry.
[04:10:34] The president.
[04:10:35] Blink eyes if you see them.
[04:10:37] OK.
[04:10:38] All right, for this series in particular,
[04:10:40] we know about the Falcons, Big Four.
[04:10:42] We know the draft is going to be a big issue for the upcoming
[04:10:46] series.
[04:10:47] What are we looking out for, for ParaVision,
[04:10:49] don't they have like, and maybe not the Big Four,
[04:10:51] but the two or you know a couple heroes that are very them they do they've got a
[04:10:57] lot of really good strategies but the one that comes to mind for me is
[04:11:00] potentially the storm plus keeper of the light because I mentioned earlier that
[04:11:03] Falcons don't seem to enjoy playing against the Sierra they fear it to some
[04:11:07] degree and of course there's the next assassin from 9 costs I think that that
[04:11:12] heroes stocks are rising up this extreme gaming plate yesterday too but it can
[04:11:16] cause a lot of devastation on the map.
[04:11:19] If I for probably the centerpiece of older drafts is what is my class because it will define what type of game you're playing if he's
[04:11:25] Caudal, it's a call game if he's Nick's it's a Nick's game and like
[04:11:29] Identifying which one of these two strategies they want to apply to try to overcome falcons
[04:11:33] I think it's gonna be a good main thing for them
[04:11:35] And I feel like what's really cool is they are the like 50 crack heroes
[04:11:38] They like to give out like they might give the pango
[04:11:41] They might give the laundry it but they have a prepared answer that they want to run against it
[04:11:44] And I think that's what makes these two teams matching up such an exciting time.
[04:11:48] Because you have one side where it's just like, we're going to build our strategy, same thing as always,
[04:11:52] and probably it's like the one team that wants you to do that and try to crack it.
[04:11:55] I also think, I'm so curious to see what they do with Huskar, because Paravision is playing four Huskar.
[04:12:00] Teams are first banning Huskar against Paravision, but Falcons is the Huskar team.
[04:12:04] So I'm, as a Huskar man myself, I'm curious to see where it goes, because I think there's some, so it's not banned yet.
[04:12:10] You already know they want to first pick it. Oh, come on. So, okay, they're giving it
[04:12:18] In a long time we get the potentially Mallory and or AP a plus car
[04:12:22] I honestly want to see what they've been building because I never get to see them play in officials and I can't watch their pubs
[04:12:26] I mean unless I'm watching it live and you don't play live that much
[04:12:29] So I don't actually know what they're building. I don't know the style
[04:12:32] They're playing Amar has been recently buying treads before armlet
[04:12:36] Which is something that not all people have been doing but they really value treads right now
[04:12:39] Sometimes they skip Saundra by just Dragonlands.
[04:12:41] There's a lot of deviation of Huskar builds right now,
[04:12:43] and I think they're at the forefront.
[04:12:44] Everyone kind of just copies them because they know they're
[04:12:46] the least amount of values of Huskar, so I'm on high.
[04:12:49] All right, and then I guess here's what they had in mind.
[04:12:51] They wanted to play the Viper and just follow Huskar
[04:12:54] to whatever lane that he goes to.
[04:12:56] But this is one of those moments where,
[04:12:58] depending on how this game one goes,
[04:13:00] they're going to potentially revise what Lich found, right?
[04:13:03] Because between Lich and Huskar,
[04:13:05] if your Huskar idea doesn't work,
[04:13:07] you've gotten the data that you need.
[04:13:09] I mean, I think that's the party's thing, right?
[04:13:11] They will probably try like two or three, or depending on how many games they get,
[04:13:14] they will try a couple of these and see what works and what allows them to be the best version of themselves while doing it.
[04:13:20] I'm a little bit disappointed with Viper.
[04:13:21] I was hoping something cooler was coming about.
[04:13:24] This feels like, okay, well, we'll be good enough.
[04:13:25] What's cooler?
[04:13:26] I don't know.
[04:13:27] I mean, I know Viper's not cool, but what's cooler than against A&A?
[04:13:30] What would you rather have?
[04:13:32] The cool...
[04:13:33] I mean, I guess maybe some wonky dueling men that they cooked up, like,
[04:13:37] Uh, let's bait them into running this housecar, maybe I'm gonna run a dual lane and he's gonna cry, but they just go for the Viper instead.
[04:13:43] Yeah, I mean, I think Sniper is cooler, but I think Viper is the best.
[04:13:46] Like, it's this, this, this hero is, is like such a stupid matchup.
[04:13:49] But it is a Sniper, cool.
[04:13:51] Sniper's definitely cool.
[04:13:52] Sniper's not cool.
[04:13:53] He's so cool.
[04:13:54] He's a beast.
[04:13:55] You don't even know Viper's real name.
[04:13:56] Do you know Viper's real name?
[04:13:58] No.
[04:13:59] It's Nother Drake.
[04:14:00] Is that real?
[04:14:01] Yeah.
[04:14:02] It's not a fact like that.
[04:14:03] Well, Nother Drake is Viper, but it's the whole thing, it's the same.
[04:14:05] He's gonna need Viper than another Drake?
[04:14:07] That's his like...
[04:14:08] Then his name would be Viper.
[04:14:10] Okay, but like the point is...
[04:14:12] That's his other name.
[04:14:14] I feel like Sniper's more lane than Viper.
[04:14:16] That's an outtake.
[04:14:17] More lane.
[04:14:18] You know what a W take is?
[04:14:20] Banning Windranger.
[04:14:22] That mix and axe.
[04:14:24] Sorry, I've been on panel with Jenkins for too long.
[04:14:26] My brain is fried.
[04:14:27] I do really like this mix, man.
[04:14:29] I think this hero in the hands of the nine class is
[04:14:32] It's terrifying to play against because you just don't know what you're in for for this
[04:14:36] first 10 minutes.
[04:14:37] But as a hero outside of cheese fanaticans, it's been looking really good this tournament.
[04:14:43] I always see these double impales coming up.
[04:14:45] Nixon's winning late game fights just by finding that one pick off first.
[04:14:49] It's a cool hero.
[04:14:50] The bowler comes out your favorite hero of all time, Quinn.
[04:14:53] Yeah, it's weird they pick it into Hosskar.
[04:14:56] Because Klaak does just nothing against Hosskar.
[04:14:58] The cogs don't mess with it.
[04:14:59] If the one hero doesn't care about the bowler, you're invincible.
[04:15:02] pins at the end of the court. He can hit you as many times as he wants and he can't do anything.
[04:15:05] So I'm kind of surprised. I mean, part of it is, you know, the fact that it's a steel pick,
[04:15:09] we talk about that all the time, and it kind of is because they don't want to play against Clockwork,
[04:15:12] but it's a little weird. It's interesting that they value it so much that even though
[04:15:18] it doesn't do anything against the first pick, they still pick it.
[04:15:21] Yeah. I mean, I think usually at this point, you're just, you're still trying to pick a hero.
[04:15:25] That is a good piece for you to build other heroes around. And right now, Clockwork is,
[04:15:29] It is an enabler. It is like the worst version of clockwork you could possibly get, but it's still clockwork.
[04:15:35] And I think that's like, essentially what they're saying here. And at the same time, like, you don't want to give it away for free, I think.
[04:15:41] In this case also, you guys were saying Viper is gonna follow Oscar wherever he goes. Clockroom's gonna do the opposite.
[04:15:47] The Voight Oscar wherever he goes. Right? Because you wouldn't still want to lane it against him.
[04:15:51] Not necessarily, like let's say this Huskar is shown to be off lane, and this clock plus the Viper lane versus Huskar would be really strong.
[04:15:59] It depends on who he's laning with.
[04:16:04] Yeah, I am very curious to see if he lanes in mid, because I've seen Malloryn play this lane back when he was cauterized and beat Viper pretty handedly.
[04:16:11] Like people just gave up on him because they would lose the lane, but since cauterized has been removed, you've got to be really careful.
[04:16:17] So when Hustler wins that lane is finding a key moment where you man up and you kill the Viper
[04:16:20] because he's overstepping and there's a lot of like fine foundry knowing
[04:16:24] and if you mess that up then you just die and then you're fried forever
[04:16:27] because you can't go near him, he just Viper strikes you, there's no way to dodge him.
[04:16:30] Yeah.
[04:16:31] So I'm very interested to see if Maureen actually thinks he can lane this or not
[04:16:34] or whether they should have put inside lane.
[04:16:36] I feel like generally speaking when they put the Hustler in mid, it has looked better.
[04:16:40] Yeah, I agree.
[04:16:41] But the thing is, the advantage they have in this series is I don't think
[04:16:43] or even if they want to put satanic on Viper, like they might do it, but I don't think it's something they're enthusiastic about.
[04:16:49] And that would be very much playing Falcon's game, rather than building their own draft and playing their game the way they want to.
[04:16:56] I see what you're saying, because I wouldn't fully take advantage of the strengths of the player, but they have put it once when we were heroes.
[04:17:02] This tournament, he even played Kerry's Storm Spirit at one point because I thought it would be good for the draft.
[04:17:07] So he's shown that hopefully whatever he thinks the team is good at the end of the day.
[04:17:13] This is a hero that's okay against Huskar, but I think against Viper, you already need
[04:17:20] to buy Pike on Huskar because when you get Viper Strike, you have to kite.
[04:17:24] That's the way every fight will play out is you're doing stuff and then if you do one
[04:17:28] as Viper enters the fight, you try to bait Viper Strike and you pike away and you rock
[04:17:31] because there's no fighting into that spell.
[04:17:34] And so he's already naturally buying Pike and he's not going to be committing to fights.
[04:17:37] But I feel like Dawn is best when the enemy is committing into you.
[04:17:39] You have something like an axe or this hero that wants to flink jump and then you Dawn
[04:17:43] counter-newsheet, right? It's not generally a spell, but it's like an aggressive spell,
[04:17:46] a lot of times it's a turnaround spell. So, I think it's like a little weird, but
[04:17:51] Paravision usually gets all four of these zero clocked as the only girl that's starting.
[04:17:54] So, it enforces your last pick to be a catchman.
[04:17:59] And it's interesting also when you think about it. Last pick is, we're assuming it's
[04:18:05] satanic zero, I think? Or they are flexing by a precary.
[04:18:07] Or are they genuinely, yeah, or thinking they want to put the by precary?
[04:18:10] They also answered this Chen with Caudle.
[04:18:14] It's kind of like if Chen in it is a hero that defines the draft very much by themselves
[04:18:18] and Caudle kind of does the same thing.
[04:18:21] And these two heroes don't really interact with each other.
[04:18:23] Like Chen is not that great at following Caudle around like a bane that we saw the other day.
[04:18:27] And Caudle is also not that good at like slowing Chen down from doing his thing in the jungle.
[04:18:31] So they're kind of saying like we'll both play our strategy out and we'll see which one's
[04:18:34] better.
[04:18:35] What I do think when Falcons play chans is they're basically saying that all by the orcs
[04:18:42] and then it gives ATF base to play a greedy or triple falconer and that's usually what they look to do.
[04:18:48] So the potential of the slasher going offline is actually pretty high with this chan coming out just based on how Falcons like to do things.
[04:18:55] No, it definitely is. I also think it's funny that both teams are leading the flex open until last phase.
[04:19:00] Like clearly a pair of visuals like they're gonna flex this offline and so they're like, okay
[04:19:04] Well, then we're flexing Viper to like screw you if you're gonna play these games then you know win stupid prizes
[04:19:09] So we'll see we'll see if they actually commit to the fit because I agree with Aiden
[04:19:12] This happens a lot where maybe one guy's idea on the team is like Viper's so good against Husqvarg. It's unplayable
[04:19:18] You can even play carry. It's like, I guess you're huh?
[04:19:20] And he doesn't actually want to but you kind of get like roped into it by your-
[04:19:24] I mean usually you get I feel like you get logically argued into doing it even though you're not actually that
[04:19:29] confident in playing it yourself or comfortable or happy to play it. It's not like it doesn't excite you.
[04:19:34] The same way it does for the other guy.
[04:19:38] Well, let's do this. I mean, ultimately, Pairi have the choice on what to do at the very end with having overall elastic.
[04:19:44] But I feel like that you mentioned, Aiden, about this brav kind of looking like, okay, all of these heroes are something.
[04:19:51] Are they something to get them? I keep that this keeper now, but not a lot of peers to take advantage of his combo.
[04:19:57] So you need something at the very end that's going to play with this Chocomontor.
[04:20:01] Because it's okay on Viper, it's also fine on Dawn if you link together.
[04:20:05] Like you can reset her spells more and it's great, but it doesn't have that oomph of like a double slam.
[04:20:10] I mean the tricky thing with Caudal combos is that none of them lay well into the whole summoner.
[04:20:14] And most of the mid heroes that you would want to pick to enable Caudal are just not that good here.
[04:20:19] So I think this last pick is quite tricky.
[04:20:22] I think it's going to very much like move the draft in one way or another.
[04:20:26] I think the issues for party is harder to solve based on what I can think of right now. I think finding
[04:20:33] More catch is generally like you have clean mentioned already
[04:20:36] But like having only clockwork as your catch and you're at five being like the only source of control can sometimes be a tricky to play with
[04:20:44] There's the call to like a slider on the stuff, so did they have some things but it's
[04:20:49] Not ideal in my book. I like Falcons position a lot more right now
[04:20:54] Do you think there's a tricky element for
[04:20:57] Profile concealer where like cost score is just going to lane against Viper and that lane is it's just it's bad
[04:21:04] Yeah, if you pick hoscar and a pub not last big they will pick Viper in every game without exception
[04:21:10] No one ever pick anything else because everyone knows it is the best answer like this Viper strikes
[04:21:14] Well is so obnoxious to play against and you need to be you to play pretty much perfect because in any fight you commit
[04:21:20] You get Viper short good dead
[04:21:22] Sorry, I got you off. But I feel like there's also like Huskar in this game has quite an easy time falling back to the jungle, right?
[04:21:27] He definitely does.
[04:21:29] Because usually when you win a lane, you want to take that advantage and you want to keep snowballing it into his space.
[04:21:33] Like you want to
[04:21:34] push him out of the areas he wants to be in. And I think in this game, it's quite tricky to do that.
[04:21:38] Like clockwork doesn't really allow you to do it. Cotto Viper doesn't really sound super inspiring.
[04:21:43] Maybe a 9-class will work some magic. And like yeah, maybe you can do like some Viper Dawn stuff,
[04:21:47] but at that point it's like not really, it doesn't care the same
[04:21:50] oomph as if you could do it with yourselves.
[04:21:52] Oh, you're right.
[04:21:53] I do think they will attempt to correct that in the last pic.
[04:21:57] But the mentioning of the lanes, I think, really is important because you know that
[04:22:01] the Husker is going to lose the lane because Zyper's going to follow him.
[04:22:04] But you also see that the Tiny and the Chen are leaning against the Dawn and the Keeper.
[04:22:09] And I don't think I've seen Dawn lose lanes this Dream League.
[04:22:13] Like, she seems to just be winning most lanes top net worth.
[04:22:17] While Tiny and Chun do look strong on paper, I don't think they win that lane either, so you're not operating from a one lane from your safe lane, nor are you operating from a one lane from your mid or off lane.
[04:22:28] So, BearVision can just win off of tempo if they can get a really good last victory. That's how I see it at least.
[04:22:35] BearVision is also having quite the conundrum about which hero to ban last.
[04:22:39] I think it's such a key part of this draft, because the draft can really flip based on
[04:22:45] whatever heroes come out.
[04:22:46] So interesting they chose to ban San King, I think the reasoning here is that it could
[04:22:49] have been either Malvin or ATF, and for whatever reason they don't get the Viper matchup that
[04:22:54] they want, it's such a big part of the draft that they decided to ban off the San King
[04:22:59] to try to avoid any sort of potential flexes that make it confusing for them.
[04:23:03] Yeah, it's typically the only way to weasel your out of, like, if you're trying to flex
[04:23:07] something is first pick and they just fall you it's like a pick as you get
[04:23:10] something that flexes forever so that you never can match it and then you
[04:23:13] play like some lane switch game but then crack it's real silly and I don't
[04:23:18] know if it's in favor of the I don't know it's hard to tell I think there's
[04:23:22] like too little experience in those kinds of games I mean here's kind of this
[04:23:25] thing yeah and I think I think this buck bench should have been
[04:23:29] zimbersaw or another permaflex because now you're in a weird spot of
[04:23:34] It's not that clear what you're doing here because you can take put biker mid and he will be timber or hustar
[04:23:39] But I can tell you I played biker against Maori timber. You will not beat him that bad
[04:23:43] You'll beat him
[04:23:44] But how much because he's gonna cut waves and he's gonna drag aggro in really annoying ways and pull waves behind towers
[04:23:50] And he's gonna be a pain in your butt and it's not easy to actually win that lane to the extent you want to
[04:23:54] I mean, I feel like looking at it just as it is right now if I'm party. I'm worried about my damage
[04:24:00] There's a chin. There's extremely think heroes
[04:24:02] What the hell is that?
[04:24:04] That's the DP! We somehow re-impacted that. Now it's on the side of the pyramid.
[04:24:09] It's actually carry Viper.
[04:24:10] I think Satanic is playing from the rear heroes.
[04:24:13] Would he go mid here?
[04:24:14] I don't think he will.
[04:24:15] He's a capable mid laner.
[04:24:17] I think Husskar matchups, you gotta be at the mid player.
[04:24:21] I think if I'm playing as a carry player playing Viper mid, he would get solo killed a hundred times by Husskar.
[04:24:26] Do you think Satanic falls into that category?
[04:24:28] Yes, I actually do. I think Husskar matchups are very specific.
[04:24:31] specific okay okay all right I don't think DPB Toscar and Lino I think you
[04:24:36] straight up lose yeah I will say also I think no one on the list of like
[04:24:41] mid laners that could go carry not very high up I think like if you swap the
[04:24:46] lanes and how comfortable he is I don't think he's that much of like a safe
[04:24:48] lane player so yeah I mean I look at party's draft and I think it looks scary
[04:24:52] I think they are lacking tools to kill Valve heroes as the game progresses and
[04:24:57] and they're like big, uh,
[04:25:00] I'd say like what they were playing for was getting the bifurne to Huskar and like, abusing that.
[04:25:05] I feel like they're not really accomplishing here.
[04:25:07] I mean Falcons look like they got their signature heroes.
[04:25:10] The draft looks really strong and like you mentioned, the Huskar seems to be playing an easier game.
[04:25:15] But I do want to believe that Parry have some kind of vision here.
[04:25:18] There's something that they really believe in.
[04:25:21] And let's say that somehow that prophet goes even.
[04:25:25] I think their tempo line-up is really strong, like they have two winning side lanes.
[04:25:30] So all you need to do is see if you're doing well enough to run up objectives,
[04:25:33] and maybe you don't play into Falcons hands, maybe you just never let them play their version of Dodo.
[04:25:38] It's a very cool idea, and I respect it from ParryVision, being the one who's going to try to break one of the horses.
[04:25:43] You know, you put it on a table, hammer check it, and then if it bounces back then hey, whatever,
[04:25:48] Huskar's unbeatable and you go next, you know?
[04:25:50] So I respect it, it's ballsy, I think it's going to bounce back and hit the hammer,
[04:25:53] back and hit the hammers can hit him in the face I think Falcons are winning but I respect the effort
[04:25:57] you know you get you have to it's upper bracket you know if not now then what but I agree with you
[04:26:02] I respect it very much so this is uh this is upper bracket starting finals so losers not eliminated
[04:26:08] and that's very nice I think falcons definitely have crafted themselves quite the good scenario for
[04:26:14] them here it's been a while though I'll say it's been a while since they had the chance to pick
[04:26:21] because guys, we're in first phase and I want to say every single game, yeah, so we're gonna find out if it is enough, if it is good enough
[04:26:31] I probably don't think it's probably yes, but let's find out a pair of it and can stop it in the first game with this best of three
[04:27:21] I'm looking forward to this, but I don't really know what to expect. Falcons, they've got some nasty stuff. They have enough of their draft though. Well, we're going to do the Husqvarter Day when they like it. They get it, and they do manage to end up sort of laying down the draft in a way to keep it in the mid lane here for Malrin.
[04:27:47] a vision bring some new stuff. You know, we're getting some no one death profit.
[04:27:51] Death profit not a hero that was seen an awful lot, but we do know some teams
[04:27:54] have been experimenting some players have been experimenting pubs with it.
[04:27:56] It's a little bit for see that. But more importantly, look for see what's
[04:27:59] the guy going to do on his Viper. I mean, as far as I can see, he's never done it
[04:28:03] in a pro game on any role. You know, just he's never played it in an official.
[04:28:07] Obviously, we have limited data right when it comes to pubs, but I can only
[04:28:10] see stuff really going back in 2022. It's been so years.
[04:28:13] There's been maybe he's played more recently, but there was obviously been
[04:28:16] huge window and where we did update through in the pubs and I'm not finding any of that. So
[04:28:20] he don't do it a lot and even when he was in a bank 2022 he was doing it offline.
[04:28:23] So let's see what he can do over the carry Viper. They look for first blood, Amar holds a skill
[04:28:28] point, quickly able to temper change his way out. They are looking to snowball with this Viper.
[04:28:32] I'm worried about this mid-matchup. I'm wondering how this death profit is actually going to end
[04:28:36] up doing versus the Huskar. You gave them their hero, right? This is Falcons putting it on display
[04:28:40] with their triple tanky cores as well. This is as Falcons of a draft as it comes.
[04:28:46] Wow, this is going to be an interesting game, because I feel like the thing is with Viperite,
[04:28:54] it's not really a hero in the carry position that feels anywhere close to the other kind
[04:28:58] of carries we used to see in St. Tannikom, right?
[04:29:00] No, and usually it's like you want to be getting to where the Huskar is and you want
[04:29:04] to be playing against him, but you're not, and this Huskar might just be too big because
[04:29:07] of the lanes, right?
[04:29:08] Depending on how this mid-match offensive is happening, we're going to have to see how
[04:29:11] it all goes down in these lanes.
[04:29:12] I mean, I was just going to say, in general, is there some, like, speciality in the game
[04:29:16] special tech with the carry by foot that you're seeing in lights and high-ranked
[04:29:19] pubs or stuff always know what this isn't really something that anyone's playing
[04:29:22] not it's not really getting played too much no I don't know how much you can
[04:29:25] deviate around the usual you're gonna go your lances your man says you know
[04:29:28] stuff like that and just play around it yeah crazy but yeah I'm original with
[04:29:33] the builders you say gonna be that standard yeah my concern is that they
[04:29:37] lack catch the panel was talking about the lack of cats a lot and then they
[04:29:40] last picked with a death profit if they exercise and gets popped a viper
[04:29:44] and they just disengage, right? It's pretty disastrous. The catch can be pretty bad for paravision in general.
[04:29:50] And then we all have to, of course, talk about, there's a clockwork versus a huskar.
[04:29:54] So this hero is going to do almost nothing in terms of threatening Mal'Reen.
[04:29:57] So we'll have to see how these lanes do end up going down.
[04:29:59] And bottom lane, I wanted to mention this one too, because I know this Dawnbreaker has dominated most matchups.
[04:30:05] I feel like Shen and Tiny can actually do pretty decent. Yes, here's Zero Armor,
[04:30:08] Here's zero armor be of a son versus the dawn sun right versus the queue and chances give you insane armor
[04:30:14] Right, you get divine favor if you want or you have creeps, so
[04:30:17] Let's get a little end up going
[04:30:20] I mean in terms of cat is is the bill we've seen on the mid DPs being the the road of 8-hose or not
[04:30:27] That's a good question. Is he gonna go 8-hose build on no one actually got to go back and check because I was looking
[04:30:31] I've seen a lot of different builds
[04:30:32] I think 8-hose was one of them that I said the next is lost career twice wait what
[04:30:36] No, that was the second time?
[04:30:37] That was the second time.
[04:30:38] He just killed his courier twice.
[04:30:40] A hero that you want to have your early starting items on too, right?
[04:30:43] Dominate the lane.
[04:30:44] I'm not the plot.
[04:30:45] I was gonna say CS is going fantastic, you know, the laning going very well for Static,
[04:30:49] even if he is having his courier snipe.
[04:30:51] So, the beginning will be good for him in this safe lane.
[04:30:54] The Falcons will take their just getting levels, not getting last hits,
[04:30:57] just making sure that they can still keep the creep wave.
[04:30:59] And it is a double range creep, so he's gonna push into them.
[04:31:02] But the thing is obviously, else run the map right, like the mid lane.
[04:31:05] If we're gonna see Maureen get quite the lead.
[04:31:08] He might even kill him.
[04:31:09] He is gonna be able to chase him out. A lot of, a lot of spears adding up.
[04:31:13] No wonder.
[04:31:14] Oh, he's trying to turn with the siphon, but at this point of the game the siphon is not strong enough to just outdo the damage and sustain.
[04:31:21] But the Huskar has himself.
[04:31:22] And he was already losing the lane quite handedly. 19, 8, 10, 1.
[04:31:26] They're trying to step-profit first with the Huskar, but it's quitset.
[04:31:29] And as we see, the Huskar is able to just endure.
[04:31:32] Okay, 9 class, it looks like he's gonna try to do something tricky.
[04:31:35] They have to do something different. They cannot let this Huskar do Huskar things.
[04:31:39] He used both side charges.
[04:31:43] So you actually can't even go for the play in mid, so never mind.
[04:31:46] I'm sure you have Crystal up right, but it's not the best way to back up in jungle camps with right.
[04:31:51] Not at all. I mean, this hero is designed about winning your lane and no balling.
[04:31:56] When you don't win your lane on death profit, I'm wondering what you do.
[04:31:59] There's a reason we don't see it that often.
[04:32:00] They're going to get the set up here, no test, they'll try and get away, but
[04:32:04] Crit's ready with the hex.
[04:32:07] And Amar is just dealing with the top lane. Not dying, getting some slow levels,
[04:32:11] but they're putting a ton of pressure already on this term.
[04:32:14] They've got everything they wanted, they want to test if they can beat it.
[04:32:19] I mean, it's just going to be all eyes on stay time.
[04:32:21] Just getting free fun as the save flame viper, but what can he do as a save flame viper to carry this game?
[04:32:28] And he did you know can he show us something that we're not seeing anyone else really kind of dare try to show us
[04:32:33] Nobody else is picking the safe lane right now, and it is versus the three tanky bruisers, right?
[04:32:37] That's the other thing that Falcons must have gone through them is Crip
[04:32:40] They're speedy with these creeps. Yeah, they are they could chase nine class down quite a bit
[04:32:45] We can say we speedy the next lesson that boots, but gonna try and deny to the ancients
[04:32:49] But don't get the last day in there Crip
[04:32:52] Another kill here for Falcons and Malvane might just follow kill no one again. He's found him in the jungle
[04:32:56] no one will at least save him this time round barely oh my god what am I not yes
[04:33:03] the very fire anyway yeah he is gonna have to carry harder than we've ever
[04:33:16] seen a Viper carry again before and it's not like he wants to fight for strike
[04:33:19] the husk are but then tiny has free reign and timbers gonna start doing
[04:33:22] chamber things as well too.
[04:33:26] Crip.
[04:33:27] I'm gonna put a stop to that starbreaker.
[04:33:29] The tower is gonna be dead already here too.
[04:33:30] I'm trying Chase.
[04:33:31] And they should get him.
[04:33:33] Hallis back up there thanks to the call.
[04:33:34] So we'll manage to get themselves a kill on the board here, Paravision.
[04:33:38] Gotta get something because you have no mid laner and he literally is about to lose his
[04:33:42] tower.
[04:33:43] You can, I keep, okay so watch here, I think he bought, I mean, I saw one.
[04:33:50] Every one of them.
[04:33:51] sure all my stamina is gone fairy gets it in pops it but still the tick damage of
[04:33:56] these spares is it wasn't even close to surviving honestly then at the end of the
[04:34:01] day there it was just crazy and he's here but it's about because he said what
[04:34:06] it's a what can you do it's not gone great it's not gonna get any greater
[04:34:09] because Maureen this is cleaning up the headstab was the bottom lane kills off
[04:34:13] notice this hero has yet to lose this tournament if I'm 5 and 0 yep and you
[04:34:18] it's Falcons who get it with their literal best players everyone knows how
[04:34:21] to play it. I mean just for like you, I mean maybe there is not much of a better plan, but
[04:34:27] you know if they can get away with this by just banning AA and picking Huskar,
[04:34:31] maybe you do just have to ban Huskar. If there's not a solution to this sort of hero coming out
[04:34:38] first pick. You should just put the Viper in mid, right? That's the other thing, you just pick a
[04:34:41] different carry and you put the Viper in and you kind of just deal. The fact that now that's
[04:34:44] that, I mean that's probably not a big thing. Why didn't they do that? I think they saw that was
[04:34:48] sort of cool, you know, better cool for kind of changing that.
[04:34:53] Not sure.
[04:34:55] Well, now they have to deal with this.
[04:34:56] Yeah, they've got him.
[04:34:57] Well, we'll see.
[04:34:58] Let's have a look.
[04:34:59] Amar, as we said, he is still slowed down on the timbersaw,
[04:35:02] but he's the off laner.
[04:35:03] He's not the mid laner,
[04:35:04] and he's going to be able to recover and overall shock him.
[04:35:07] Very useful ability to both play from a distance from, always.
[04:35:10] It's going to be good versus Viper since it's pure damage too.
[04:35:12] Okay.
[04:35:12] Even if he is behind.
[04:35:14] It's going to be the mage there.
[04:35:15] Mage, okay.
[04:35:16] Okay.
[04:35:18] We'll be at least able to limit some of that damage
[04:35:20] and tank up.
[04:35:21] A lot of pressure on him.
[04:35:22] We are seeing noticed at least also having a pretty good time.
[04:35:24] Not able to have the time that we've seen
[04:35:26] from most of these dons where they dominate the lane
[04:35:28] or a top net worth.
[04:35:29] So has been slowed down.
[04:35:31] Well, there we go.
[04:35:32] That's not a great sign.
[04:35:33] So you should say the Huskies been winning every game.
[04:35:36] This game, this is actually the fastest on any of the Huskies.
[04:35:39] We've had here at this tournament.
[04:35:40] He did solo.
[04:35:41] Yeah, that was out of pull.
[04:35:43] This is a multiply match.
[04:35:44] It turns out she's out of the whole patch I think, this is like the fastest downlet so...
[04:35:49] They're gonna try and beat the fastest downlet we've seen on a Husker in quite some time.
[04:35:53] Oh, this Titanic is going way too deep!
[04:35:56] Oh dear, oh dear god.
[04:36:00] I thought this was gonna be a long game Fog, but honestly, looking at this first 8 minutes, this might be one of the short ones.
[04:36:05] Yeah, this is really grim. Viper and Death Prophet, now dying in the laning phase, and no one's coming back to P6.
[04:36:10] So look, they think you can get them off.
[04:36:12] Can they malry?
[04:36:14] That would be the bigger catch.
[04:36:17] Cogs don't do anything.
[04:36:21] Okay, the Donald is in it up.
[04:36:23] It will catch him.
[04:36:25] They got him. There we go. They brought the Husqon down.
[04:36:28] That is Exorcism, that is Donald and four heroes rotated to get the kill, but they do get him.
[04:36:32] They get him.
[04:36:35] Can they get Tower Pressure with this Exorcism? It is going to be expiring pretty soon.
[04:36:40] See how much they do want to push forward for it here, but they get it. At the least.
[04:36:46] It does mean that Skidder and Snaking on the flip side immediately start to push bottom, Snake.
[04:36:50] He's got the drums already finished up. He tends to farm pretty hard when he plays to the channel.
[04:36:54] I'm just gonna go back to the jungle for now so I imagine we're the mace player into
[04:37:09] what the dragon lords man's still.
[04:37:12] Yeah, I guess, but when you're having to, I mean not having to, but when you're kind
[04:37:16] of pushed into this position, you're jungling as well to the double jungling as the death
[04:37:20] profit in the Viper, this just feels awkward. Not the way that these heroes are designed to really play.
[04:37:30] But every time Solar Guardian is up, I think you kind of have to do this at this point, right?
[04:37:34] Either you use Viper Strike to kill the Husker, or you use every other ultimate.
[04:37:40] Stacks being made, Falcons, ensuring that they can catch Amar up as well too, since he said he
[04:37:45] still is behind, but this hero farms jungle incredibly fast, especially those Ancients.
[04:37:50] Let's see around the mid.
[04:37:52] High class.
[04:37:53] A nine class and they've got him.
[04:37:55] Skeeter with the tree from downtown.
[04:37:57] That's the easy kill for him to find there.
[04:37:59] It's going to be his Echo Saber pretty much done.
[04:38:01] And we do also have to talk about the tidy versus the Viper matchup as things go on later, right?
[04:38:05] This Viper can get deleted pretty easily once that Shadowblade, Silver, etc. starts coming out.
[04:38:13] It's in a very comfortable spot at this point.
[04:38:15] Even contested into this jungle side here.
[04:38:19] so far, not seeing Ducalus able to do too much, and most of the times we've seen this right at the clockwork hero
[04:38:25] in the first 10 minutes these cogs kind of break the game, not been the case since he is against the Hustard
[04:38:30] unable to make the moves to these side lanes
[04:38:33] and they just dodged him in the lane
[04:38:36] come on, be a little careful whilst he finishes off this stack, but he should be able to clear it
[04:38:42] careful
[04:38:44] he'll probably go back
[04:38:46] hey hey, never saw we're in a shack room
[04:38:48] alright, he does get the stack off
[04:38:49] Alright, so you have been efficient.
[04:38:51] Yeah, he's just playing smart there.
[04:38:53] Crit, almost level 6 for him too.
[04:38:56] I mean they're gonna try and kill him.
[04:38:58] I'm not gonna let him get away with sitting in the lane, picking up that XP.
[04:39:02] It's a good kill.
[04:39:03] Urn Charge acquired for 9 class, has the solar bind at the ready.
[04:39:07] Can they push this forward for a tower here?
[04:39:15] Snicking, rotating over.
[04:39:17] They've got Val Reander.
[04:39:19] Do they want to stop this bush? It looks like they do.
[04:39:23] Maureen's going to go up the dragonline, I spilled.
[04:39:26] I've seen him do this one quite a bit more in his pubs.
[04:39:29] To call us.
[04:39:32] That's not just back away. He'll keep the tower alive.
[04:39:35] Pretty important tower I would say to keep alive too, for a mar.
[04:39:38] Right, so he can keep that farm just in around the ancients freely.
[04:39:41] Don't forget to deny.
[04:39:44] But protect the area here nicely.
[04:39:48] I came here from now on so we'll at least step that for the next round of exorcism.
[04:39:52] Gonna go Kaia, so he's going a very aggressive build.
[04:39:55] I'm worried for his life. He does at least have the solo guardian behind him to protect
[04:40:00] him and the eventual heals that come out from Kata, but there's a lot of burst damage.
[04:40:03] The Tiny, the Lion, the Timber.
[04:40:07] And you like this game, not just going for the Orcid rush?
[04:40:09] Just the dawn.
[04:40:12] I like this build on dawn, just period.
[04:40:15] I think this item build is very good for the hero.
[04:40:17] Kira uses so much mana.
[04:40:19] Yep. Keeps you on the map.
[04:40:20] Yep. Can be very good versus the supports.
[04:40:22] Like the line in particular, stop the stuns.
[04:40:28] I don't know if it's anything in particular like...
[04:40:30] Yeah, the way an Orcid is just good this game versus the Falcons here, but I think it's just good on a Dawnbreaker, so...
[04:40:37] Looking to play with this Arcane Rune for no one.
[04:40:39] Let's see if they can find Skeeda. Would be the big catch.
[04:40:42] They want to try to slow down Falcon's cores.
[04:40:48] I have a good shot of killing him here.
[04:40:50] Everybody's here.
[04:40:51] Here they go with the hookshot solar guardian. Everybody ready to bring Skeeter down.
[04:40:55] They will not even bother teeping anyone over. They know that Skeeter is gone.
[04:41:00] It's a five man rotation though for these moves.
[04:41:02] You do at least get the kill on the core and they're going to use the exorcism very efficiently in the tree line.
[04:41:07] Should be able to clean this one up very quickly.
[04:41:11] Making their own moves, that's the important thing.
[04:41:15] Not falling for the trap, into falcons, playing around them.
[04:41:19] Immediately going toward top to defend as well.
[04:41:24] So should be able to prevent the sneakings, push onto this tower here with Titanic.
[04:41:29] I'm gonna finish off the job, can we get out though?
[04:41:34] Cuz Crit, I'm already in a hit, Exorcism's still running, still hesitating, Malmene
[04:41:41] doesn't want to jump into that Exo and die, he's very close to having it, and he's going
[04:41:45] for staff instead of finishing up the Dragon Lance, I believe, or does he have both finished?
[04:41:48] He does just go for staff, so, looking to be able to get in and out so he doesn't get
[04:41:52] stuck inside of the Viper Spells or stuck versus the Exo, yeah it could be very nice
[04:41:58] as well when you see the solar guardian coming in.
[04:42:01] Yep.
[04:42:01] You know, one of the annoying things to play against when you're adorned is people just
[04:42:04] sliding out of the solar guardian when you're looking to come in on top of them.
[04:42:08] And as we mentioned, right, for Paravision, there's definitely going to be some lack
[04:42:11] catch on their lineup.
[04:42:13] It's the only clockwork who really has any real big disables, and it doesn't work on
[04:42:16] Osmar.
[04:42:17] Mark?
[04:42:18] I'm trying to turn towards him.
[04:42:21] He'll be able to tip the chain down to the low ground, but no one is waiting for him.
[04:42:25] Here comes out, and I've got another chamber that's full to come in, and we'll get caught out.
[04:42:32] A beautiful angle there from DeKalus. Yeah, that was sick, that deserves a tip for sure.
[04:42:37] And no one being active, this is actually really nice, he's able to find two power runes, get himself some kills, they're dictating pace themselves here now.
[04:42:43] Mavine, in the tree line.
[04:42:49] I was going to be careful now that they're pushing into the group up and...
[04:42:53] Viper strike is there.
[04:42:54] Yeah.
[04:42:55] That's the best one.
[04:42:55] That's the best one.
[04:42:56] Back to Viper strike, the fact that Exorcism has come back up.
[04:43:00] Knight class, a pretty good timing on this vessel.
[04:43:02] There's all these tanky cores.
[04:43:06] Could be the answer that they need here.
[04:43:10] Getting three tier ones too with this movement.
[04:43:12] Blink nicely in terms of recovery for no one.
[04:43:16] Falcon's still getting timing, so Crit does have the blink dagger.
[04:43:19] Pretty damn early on the line, actually.
[04:43:23] and Falcons. Probably waiting for a particular timing. They're gonna lose two Coloss here.
[04:43:30] They are gonna have that Shadowblade finished up soon for the Tiny, so Skitter, he's gonna start hunting as well.
[04:43:37] Now when they do get on top of this Viper, as you mentioned, they will be able to deal with him pretty quickly.
[04:43:42] Most of the heroes will die and skin me fast. Same for the Dawn, Snake. He'll be okay.
[04:43:48] Notice, has been caught.
[04:43:51] And grip.
[04:43:52] Just a blink of reveal.
[04:43:53] Just to stand up.
[04:43:54] Into the finger.
[04:43:55] We'll try for the TPL.
[04:43:56] Too much damage.
[04:43:57] Much easier for Falcons to just make a move with one or two heroes in comparison.
[04:44:06] Paravision has to break the squad every single time.
[04:44:08] It has to be these five man plays for Paravision to make progress this game.
[04:44:14] Which means, right, the farm, as Falcons does to play that efficiency game.
[04:44:17] if they do make five man moves they're gonna get that farm going for everybody
[04:44:20] as we see them are keeping neck and neck with the death profit in terms of
[04:44:23] net worth pike now finished up have ways to reset in and out of the fights not
[04:44:28] for the Huskar as well and Roche has to be on both teams mine speeder he's gonna
[04:44:33] walk in
[04:44:37] preparation so we'll manage to turn over the world's crit sacrifice him
[04:44:41] immediately the paravision gonna look for another play with that immediately
[04:44:45] I've got the Alps at the Red.
[04:44:46] Ancestrism's up, so I've got him ready to join.
[04:44:49] Spirit form is used, so he wants to be able to use this Solar Bind plus Vessel combo into one of these Hanky Kors.
[04:44:53] So we can find a mark.
[04:44:55] Ooh, nice little dodge there to the side, means that the hookshot's off the mark.
[04:44:59] The Tumbler!
[04:45:03] Not able to find this grab.
[04:45:05] Roche, gonna be the next big point of contention. No one is almost level 12 for that level 2 exorcism.
[04:45:11] Both teams are definitely thinking about this area.
[04:45:18] Let's do it again.
[04:45:21] He's tripping up to Carlos a little bit there.
[04:45:26] He's going to get the connection.
[04:45:29] Falcons, closing the threat.
[04:45:32] Chris is going to have finger back up in just under 10 seconds.
[04:45:37] To Carlos.
[04:45:39] Let's jump forward. You want to need the finger anyway for that kill.
[04:45:42] Three kills for Huskar. Feels so sad to play Clockwork vs Husk.
[04:45:46] With that, probably the Roche. Power vision. Do need the whole squad to be able to contest this as we've seen it.
[04:45:52] I'm sure you want to try it or...?
[04:45:55] It's dangerous. It's very dangerous to approach this area.
[04:45:59] If they hemorrhage any kills, their heroes are very about mid-game timing on the side of power vision as well.
[04:46:04] It's still here, just you got a primary Viper right, you know, yeah
[04:46:06] You're not really looking to take this like no and this is the thing like the farm at the moment fantastic on satan
[04:46:11] It is keeping up. He's up there at the top, but he is a viper
[04:46:15] He is a viper and these players know how to play versus it as well too
[04:46:18] Even if it's the quote-unquote counter to some of their heroes
[04:46:21] Yeah, I've seen even like mantastyle huskars eventually that they have gone for to just deal with the viper strike
[04:46:26] I'm not sure if he really needs to do that in this type of game, but
[04:46:30] Let's get her shadow blades done on his way toward BKB
[04:46:34] Taken out.
[04:46:39] No one.
[04:46:42] Wanting to get involved with his level 2 exorcism, he still doesn't quite have BKB for himself.
[04:46:47] When he has BKB, he can actually charge into these fights a little bit easier on the death profit without it.
[04:46:51] Might just die instantly, almost.
[04:46:53] And I'm wondering how that timing is going to look overall for Power Visions when they
[04:47:06] get these next two items, and Falcons has the next two items, so are they actually going
[04:47:11] to be able to take any of these head on fights?
[04:47:12] This does feel like these two timings for Falcons feel so much stronger.
[04:47:16] The Shard also picked up for Mal'Reed now, he's got, I mean he's got the cauterize now,
[04:47:20] which was one of the answers for the Viper.
[04:47:21] of course first of the fight for strike being able to at least this spell get that big heal
[04:47:36] they have such limited can't it's like to call this does he hit it no they don't get the catch
[04:47:41] and even if he does they might not be able to get the chase forward every time anyway
[04:47:44] get the power in. That's a nice one here for no one with the amplified damage ring.
[04:47:54] It's army time.
[04:47:55] So as if they're doing as they please on Falcons crit.
[04:48:02] Almost ends up dying there but they should just be able to finish it off.
[04:48:05] Any rockets or scouts?
[04:48:07] No rockets or scouts.
[04:48:11] 6K lead.
[04:48:19] Got any big arms coming up soon from Paravis?
[04:48:21] BKB for no.
[04:48:22] I should be.
[04:48:23] He's just BKB and getting the midst of the fight.
[04:48:24] I think they kind of have to go at this timing.
[04:48:26] If it goes bad, I'm not sure what the backup plan is.
[04:48:29] Yeah, well there's triple BKB timing, right?
[04:48:31] I could wait for.
[04:48:32] How close does the panic?
[04:48:33] He's gonna take some time though. Yeah, but maybe that is gonna be the call
[04:48:38] It's gonna be the next big kind of moment when they have the 3BKBs. Very true
[04:48:42] And we'll see if that is gonna be able to answer this hot start this tiny this timber this super tanky cores with a Chen heel back up
[04:48:48] Who has gone from that Christmas table to walk up and take the 21 minute wisdom. There was nobody checking that out. Okay
[04:48:55] Extra XP
[04:48:57] They were relatively close, but nobody had it over, so I'm free wisdom for Crip.
[04:49:06] It's a low kill score game, and it kills a death.
[04:49:09] They place it about his hands, the longer and longer it goes by.
[04:49:12] Unless we see something absolutely amazing from Satanic here with this BKB, the triple BKB timing.
[04:49:18] It feels like we'll actually see something that we've never seen before from a bike.
[04:49:22] And I wanna make it
[04:49:25] He has to Viper strike three cores. Yeah
[04:49:31] Let's see as it is Falcons grouping up level two fingers online
[04:49:37] As you said for them they can do these two man hunting squads for paravision
[04:49:41] It's got it feel like a four-man hunting squad with that dawnbreaker ultimate notice does have to be kibby
[04:49:49] Has to get it off before he gets the table though
[04:49:52] I'm not even getting in his head more.
[04:49:59] Say, you want to take this later as death's profit?
[04:50:01] I don't know if you do.
[04:50:04] Paravision all kind of hugging each other too, being very careful not to get hunted here.
[04:50:16] Skater flanks safe because he's set to go for the BKB instead of going for the straight
[04:50:20] Silver Edge too so that he can just join up with his team.
[04:50:22] They're gonna have the triple BKB course to match the triple BKB course potentially as well too.
[04:50:29] And no one is falling further and further behind now at this point.
[04:50:40] When will things all come together for ParaVision?
[04:50:45] It's hard to sort of see that moment.
[04:50:47] But they've gotta believe that it's there!
[04:50:50] They've got to believe!
[04:50:57] It's a panic, soon there, having that BKB.
[04:51:01] To getting out farmed, to getting out efficiency to round the map.
[04:51:04] By the way, Amar, the one who is sacrificed, is about to be top net worth on the timber size.
[04:51:08] He tends to do what he's left of long to just play like this.
[04:51:13] They're just farming!
[04:51:16] And they're scaling!
[04:51:17] Paravis and I think I mean one of their heroes might be scaling kind of 1.5
[04:51:25] See how much has been picked up during this ages. Yeah, there's a lot of network
[04:51:31] The Valkans and maybe it's nine class having this kind of big farm on support two at the least right
[04:51:37] He's gonna have eggs very early on a coddle the willow is not sure how much it's made. Yeah, maybe he carries
[04:51:42] Maybe some distractions. Maybe he can carry
[04:51:44] That does give them extra catching control that they are lacking.
[04:51:49] Just engage here.
[04:51:53] Oh, they found 9 class.
[04:51:56] Leader, don't say that.
[04:51:59] Solo kill. Lots of money since he's very rich.
[04:52:03] It's just easy for them to set up these plays.
[04:52:05] I'm gonna say some time. I think Kanaki's dreaming of the big carry items.
[04:52:09] And the butterfly is queued up.
[04:52:11] So we'll go for that after getting the shard next, that he wants to pick up after this BKB.
[04:52:18] Because again, the farm's great!
[04:52:20] He's farming an A3 as you'd expect from Satanic, but he's on this Viper that...
[04:52:25] He's normally on something a bit different.
[04:52:28] I think it's go time. I think this is the triple BKB timing. I think you gotta start finding something.
[04:52:32] They should build against me.
[04:52:34] Not that big of a kill, though, and he drags the creep wave.
[04:52:44] Great.
[04:52:45] He immediately finds nine class.
[04:52:50] Does he have any body around him, if he's not?
[04:52:54] Coming in for nine class, Paravision will swing over to the mid.
[04:53:06] They have to play so cautious on Paravision, you can see no one even not kit.
[04:53:10] Doesn't want to use a wrong exorcism at all in this game.
[04:53:12] No.
[04:53:13] Here comes the smoke.
[04:53:14] Huge part of what they need to win these teamfights if they do find the chance to catch Falcons in on one
[04:53:21] Because at the moment we're seeing Falcons avoiding these attention power vision pretty well. They're just free-farming
[04:53:27] our vision
[04:53:28] Trying to find something here with this timing
[04:53:32] Scanned out and avoided
[04:53:36] Just playing that economy game 11 to 7 super low kill company up to a 10k lead continues to grow
[04:53:44] X done
[04:53:47] It was the word immediately
[04:53:51] Mounting, come to Lincoln's, so that'll be his answer.
[04:53:56] And of course, just go for that.
[04:53:58] Skeeter has the heart, they have so much, they picked up three massive core items.
[04:54:02] Sheba is for Amar.
[04:54:04] And they just got the pipe as well from snanking.
[04:54:08] Oh god, there's not a whole lot of physical damage that's coming out from Paravision at this point.
[04:54:12] A lot of it is going to be around that magic.
[04:54:21] Mark, look how aggressive he's playing with the farm. I mean, he's so massive.
[04:54:25] He's got BKB if he needs to even use it.
[04:54:28] Let's see. He will.
[04:54:30] He'll respect the willow and whisper. He didn't drop him down on it.
[04:54:36] That was, again, it's just powerful. Because they have to make these moves.
[04:54:39] They're just running it here as if it's the five of them.
[04:54:42] Not getting anything there other than the BKB usage.
[04:54:46] The next roach is probably gonna be that point where Falcons just tries to force things themselves
[04:54:50] the banner potentially around double catapult waves that'll be coming soon too.
[04:54:53] Go pause.
[04:54:55] Okay, power vision chase and catch now right now that the timber BKB is on cooldown can
[04:55:01] they again look for something as we've seen it's just hard for them to find them but.
[04:55:04] That's super hard yeah I mean I feel like, do you get sort of like a blink next on the
[04:55:11] car list you know something else to just, to give you a chance of getting that catch?
[04:55:16] Good luck getting the gold is the problem.
[04:55:18] That is one of the builds we've seen on clock.
[04:55:20] It's just so hard to play Clockverse with these Peppa Heroes, these three tanky cores, and a Huskar. You just do nothing to Huskar.
[04:55:29] Waiting to see what it all looks together, because as we said, it's just been avoiding fights and Falcons just acquiring all these items that have been allowed them to just tank through.
[04:55:37] The limited damage at some point that's going to be there for Paravision.
[04:55:40] Yeah, because maybe there is some sort of master plan for Paravision that's going to come together in the teamfight, and we're going to see
[04:55:46] Why this was the strategy they wanted to go for against the Falcons us?
[04:55:51] I'll have to see for sure. I mean Satanic, he's switching up the build at least what he's queuing up for the time being.
[04:55:56] Okay, let's get the Skadi first.
[04:56:01] Falcons, grouped up, they're smoking. All these big item timings, no one does show himself for a second.
[04:56:09] Flinger comes in, the hookshot misses. At least no one will be able to live.
[04:56:14] The taunt breaker all used.
[04:56:16] At least they didn't use exorcism as well
[04:56:24] How long on Roche?
[04:56:27] 30 seconds.
[04:56:28] So Don will still be on cooldown for it. Paravizion has to play in this area
[04:56:36] Falcon's gonna look for the flag.
[04:56:40] Satanic. Eyes on him.
[04:56:46] the long wrap coming in from Falcons to get the angle.
[04:56:51] As we said, no solar guardian.
[04:56:53] If they catch notice or satanic, it would be devastating.
[04:56:55] Any of the core is really.
[04:56:56] I mean, they're gonna get the wisdom again.
[04:56:57] Our power vision sort of kind of forgot
[04:57:00] that wisdom runes exist in this game.
[04:57:02] I think they're scared.
[04:57:03] What was your source?
[04:57:03] We're wisdom shrines.
[04:57:04] Wisdom runes don't exist.
[04:57:05] They don't exist.
[04:57:06] Everything's just for once in a time.
[04:57:08] So call us.
[04:57:11] Don't break the smoke at the least.
[04:57:14] So there's just that five position
[04:57:15] they end up losing. But Roast Threat time, solo guardian back up in 20 seconds.
[04:57:20] Can they stop it without one? Do they want to try?
[04:57:25] Shockrums to Pulkham, Titanic, showing his face.
[04:57:33] They jump, they get the hex, but will the Wisp all get dropped out if the BKB is there from the bottom?
[04:57:38] That's a good stand strong on top of Titanic. It's going to be an immediate buyback for Titanic.
[04:57:43] No one tried to come in with the BKB, the Exorcism, but they just have to focus him down, kill him through the BKB.
[04:57:48] The stun will come into play onto Amar. Amar, he's still alive though, will finally die.
[04:57:53] But then with the BKB, he can now look to take down Marie.
[04:57:56] Big buyback.
[04:57:58] Can he get more? Can I have a skitter?
[04:58:00] Oh, Chai, this time a hit.
[04:58:02] Look at the cash, Skitter turns up with the Avalanche combo, bursts down the two of them, pretty low.
[04:58:06] But they will be able to surround him and bring him down.
[04:58:10] The buyback for the Static.
[04:58:12] Secures the fight and probably the Roshan as well.
[04:58:16] That was him. I pay my buyback on Falcots to contest it themselves.
[04:58:19] Let's see if they want to do that or if they feel like they're going to be content just give a crit.
[04:58:23] Oh, crit went in for the play.
[04:58:24] Oh, he's trying to slow them down on his own. There's a brave little lion there.
[04:58:28] He's got it.
[04:58:30] That was a beautiful fight. The positioning as well.
[04:58:33] Two 9 class, the Willowist right on top of everybody.
[04:58:36] The dream scenario for them and yes, the Tannock, what a call to buyback.
[04:58:39] buyback. Yeah, absolutely. Huge buyback. Gives them a chance back in this game now,
[04:58:44] taking away a bit of that lead. We said he had to do something unexpected in order to
[04:58:48] try to come back in this buyback. That is a pretty unexpected one this early on. Falcons,
[04:58:53] they won't overreact buyback and fight or anything there. We do see they used all these
[04:58:58] BKBs early on the side of Falcons and that's when I think Stotanik made the call. He's
[04:59:02] like, alright, they did use all these. This is our one chance to go for the spike. Amar
[04:59:08] almost survives
[04:59:12] and then quite anything else to throw on him sir
[04:59:14] keep him alive
[04:59:15] they have fantastic positioning
[04:59:17] it's a panic now with the sages
[04:59:20] we'll be able to get some more growth
[04:59:24] see where they go with this now
[04:59:26] don't want to do as much as they can get as much as they can during this
[04:59:29] age is farming
[04:59:30] play around that viper
[04:59:32] get those heals going play around the coddle and the viper, that's the other thing too right?
[04:59:35] 9th class was able to freely sit in the back of this fight and just pump out the heals,
[04:59:39] pump out the spells.
[04:59:49] I can for no reason, a very quick BKB reaction there and absolutely necessary.
[04:59:56] It has to run all the way back to the base.
[05:00:00] Push bottom.
[05:00:01] Did they want to commit the EXO?
[05:00:03] Glift will be used.
[05:00:05] There's Malkin looking for the fight around this ages.
[05:00:11] Not Raine.
[05:00:13] They do see him in the mid.
[05:00:16] Ooh, little Wisp off the mark.
[05:00:23] There's no time to close in.
[05:00:26] Gullis has the Hookshot.
[05:00:29] Don't want to make a mistake though on Paravish.
[05:00:31] They didn't use the buyback of course for Satanic.
[05:00:34] What?
[05:00:35] Great.
[05:00:36] They're gonna find him!
[05:00:41] Another grab.
[05:00:42] Can they push forward for this tower here?
[05:00:44] Ideally, they do really want to hit this T2 at this age.
[05:00:47] At least get some extra gold going their way.
[05:00:51] Because all the downtime moments, Falcons as we've seen,
[05:00:54] they're able to farm at that incredible pace.
[05:00:56] They will catch back up, or at least get back to the same lead that they had before.
[05:01:04] They've got a wave bottom and they've got level three exorcism
[05:01:09] See if they can force
[05:01:12] They want to force that is looks like they are not gonna go for it just yet here
[05:01:19] At least hold the exorcism perhaps for the high ground they want to try poking there
[05:01:26] Falcons all split up
[05:01:28] I'm not interested in fighting Pirate Vision whilst they have the stages on Static.
[05:01:33] Soon gonna have Scotty.
[05:01:35] So he is gonna get that much tankier, but the main thing is he has to get DKB off,
[05:01:39] because as we see they can't 100-0 him in a burst.
[05:01:43] Marine switched the build by the way, so it wasn't gonna be that Lincoln.
[05:01:46] He is doing that man to dodge the Viper Strike.
[05:01:49] ACU has been finished up for notice, so they did gain quite a bit of physical damage
[05:01:54] for themselves in these upcoming moments as well.
[05:01:57] Even some defensive capabilities of course too for the Viper.
[05:02:03] Definitely one more than just the one tier two.
[05:02:07] They're still hovering around the steep part of the map.
[05:02:14] How long on the edges? 70 seconds.
[05:02:16] On top of the guys on notice.
[05:02:18] Can these two now? These two can't.
[05:02:21] It's not going to be with mine.
[05:02:22] Not without, yeah, without Crip.
[05:02:27] Mark, we're gonna cut the waves so they can't get that push going.
[05:02:33] Can they catch him?
[05:02:34] So the Guardian...
[05:02:35] Coach's gonna push him out of the start of the Guardian so he's able to go for the BKB
[05:02:39] TP out, nothing to stop it through it.
[05:02:41] That's a lot of ulti's used again too.
[05:02:44] Can they push forward here as he did kill the entire wave?
[05:02:47] They have one creeper.
[05:02:49] They do have one ranged creeper remaining.
[05:02:51] Looking for Maury now.
[05:02:53] We're trying to cool down hard to catch him, Skeeter getting some good split pressure onto tier 3, so we'll force out the fortification.
[05:03:01] Falcons, they'll use their, that's their high ground cliff, but they want to hang on to these outer towers while the Aegis is still on the side of ParaVision.
[05:03:08] Skeeter will start to back off now, as they're going to begin swinging back over towards him.
[05:03:13] And the Aegis is going to get reclaimed.
[05:03:15] So the buyback status, there's going to be a 2 minute window without buyback on Statenik.
[05:03:25] If they do go for the all in play on Statenik, it was very important that he had that second
[05:03:29] life when those BKBs were on cooldown from the Falcons.
[05:03:33] And they got, you know, during that Aegis time, they took away a bit of the lead, it was like
[05:03:37] a 10k lead before, goes down about 7-8k, and they got a tier 2 from the bottom lane.
[05:03:44] So a little bit of something, but not enough really to sort of change the overall momentum of this game.
[05:03:51] And Falcons you could see that they didn't really overreact to things, by any means they just were like, okay, we gave him the Aegis, sit back, get these items, we still scale.
[05:04:01] Aghanim's I believe done for Amar. He was gonna go Octurane, but I think after he almost dies during his BKB he's like, okay now I just get the Aghanim's and then I BKB Ag's and I can't die.
[05:04:09] Paravision is looking to catch somebody here.
[05:04:14] No one is hanging onto a lot of gold.
[05:04:16] Hanging onto 4k at the moment.
[05:04:19] I think he was deciding what he wants to buy.
[05:04:21] This actually could be pretty cool versus the insane amount of HP regen.
[05:04:26] The Kralos Crozier that we have seen, I think nobody pick up.
[05:04:29] I don't think I've ever said that word.
[05:04:31] It's thinking.
[05:04:32] You gotta get caught.
[05:04:35] It is an exorcism used for him.
[05:04:39] Yeah, the Krullus, it steals the HP region of everybody that is around you, so if it's
[05:04:45] a Hosskar's HP region, a Tipper's HP region, even a Strength Tanky Tiny...
[05:04:49] You're gonna get quite a bit, right?
[05:04:50] You're gonna get a lot.
[05:04:52] So the tankiness from him, plus the Coddle, it's an interesting stop, potentially, here
[05:04:55] from no one.
[05:04:57] Tormentor, Skeeter will get the Shard, getting closer and closer toward his Daedalus.
[05:05:05] They're going to react with the Spell of Guardia and the Hookshot.
[05:05:11] They're quite a fair bit of damage.
[05:05:14] Can he get out of this alive? Will the Wisps drop as well?
[05:05:17] They'll happily drop the ults for him. Does that take the timber down?
[05:05:20] One of the biggest catchers they've been able to find in this game just during all this downtime.
[05:05:24] Might be able to turn this into this push. They don't have the Exorcism running anymore,
[05:05:28] but Satanic push is fast. I believe the shards coming out of the courier for them now.
[05:05:32] See how much pressure they can put on here, Paravision.
[05:05:36] Paravision?
[05:05:37] Window.
[05:05:38] Over a minute, no Amar.
[05:05:40] These last seven minutes or so of this macro play has been very beautiful for Paravision.
[05:05:44] Yeah, absolutely.
[05:05:46] There's no one, he's got that crawler's up, no Exorcism.
[05:05:49] With Viper's Shard, they're going to start keeping back.
[05:05:51] They're looking for Skeeter.
[05:05:53] Hookshot.
[05:05:54] It is up.
[05:05:56] Has to save it though.
[05:05:57] They have a pasture, actually.
[05:05:58] No one.
[05:05:59] I noticed.
[05:06:00] Hookshot, initial catch is not going to be there, he'll be able to silver edge and TP away.
[05:06:05] I actually love this line of vision, he's got the basher now on Dawnbreaker as well,
[05:06:08] so if there is the catch on these split pushes, with a hookshot, he can actually stop the
[05:06:12] BKB TP us as well.
[05:06:19] With the start that they had, didn't think they'd even make it to this point, paravision.
[05:06:22] They're holding on very very nicely and showing that absolutely they can get these big kills.
[05:06:28] They've ensured the sort of Falcons have already had the chance to pick them apart
[05:06:33] Great card again
[05:06:40] And the left of them go they were looking at the side maybe thinking about coming across but they will not help him out
[05:06:46] Chris to fall that's a Tannick immediately starts pinging mid said he has a shard
[05:06:50] Can't go for the push to get the train
[05:06:52] I can't call it pushing though.
[05:06:54] Guys, got BKB and Manta ready to press if he needs to.
[05:06:57] He's holding on to BKB for now, no one indeed.
[05:06:59] Committing him with the BKB himself.
[05:07:01] Amar's headed in.
[05:07:03] Stay tight, look at that here.
[05:07:04] Amar will jump straight back over to Carlos
[05:07:06] and with the finger, they'll burst through the clockwork.
[05:07:08] Hex is there onto no one, Amar.
[05:07:10] Closing the gap is, you know, walking up,
[05:07:12] comes in with a big physical damage to take no one down.
[05:07:15] Satanic.
[05:07:16] He has to try for the CP out.
[05:07:17] They've got anything to stop him, they don't.
[05:07:19] So Satanic Elise will be able to bail out of that.
[05:07:21] I'm surprised they had no stun for him there, paravision.
[05:07:25] I'm speedest thing if you can look for more.
[05:07:27] Yeah, I'm rich so much there, speeders damage, it's too much for them to deal with there.
[05:07:32] Especially in that position, a very over-aggressive hookshot from Dukalis.
[05:07:37] No one felt like he needed to jump forward, he jumped into me.
[05:07:40] He went straight for it.
[05:07:42] Back to business, I'm confident.
[05:07:43] I went super deep there, we'll see you again.
[05:07:44] Because you can't, this is the problem, right?
[05:07:45] You can't cog push, so Maudy's able to get that reset play, and then yeah,
[05:07:49] Yeah, no one, just a bit, I mean, quite overaggressive, really jumping to the high ground there.
[05:07:53] Let's try him with the BKB.
[05:07:55] As soon as he's in, he has to start backing off.
[05:07:58] And this time round, when there's sort of a more chaotic situation, it's very hard for them to focus and kill the timber.
[05:08:03] You know, I'm insanely farmed, and if they can't sort of deal with him in a 5v1 situation,
[05:08:09] quickly, then they're just never going to be able to deal with him in a 5v5 team fight.
[05:08:12] No, and back to business, Ferik Falcons.
[05:08:14] Now they'll get that rush, now they'll get the Aegis of the cheese.
[05:08:17] Banner at the ready tube for the push.
[05:08:24] Scooter's damage starts to get quite ridiculous at this point if he catches any of these fragile heroes.
[05:08:30] Death Prophet definitely is still one of those.
[05:08:33] Notice, DKB is on cooldown top.
[05:08:38] Crit's on him.
[05:08:42] Should have more than enough. He is fairly tanky with the ACV.
[05:08:47] Right here? Yeah, that yields will save. Crit.
[05:08:50] He's going to try and get out with the ult. One more. They kill him in time.
[05:08:54] And he did use ult. So actually, worst case scenario, now they won't have it.
[05:08:57] If he does buy back to look for a fight, potentially.
[05:09:03] Falcon's back up to that spot that they were at.
[05:09:06] As he said, if Amar was alone, they can kill him.
[05:09:08] But when he's joined with the team, he is way too much of a distraction.
[05:09:11] Up to the high ground, damage from Malrin.
[05:09:20] Out of the ring with a whisper of, ah, he's ready to just dive straight in.
[05:09:24] Up past the tier 3, they've got the Hex on the Static, a force will get Static back to safety.
[05:09:29] Skitter tries to lift towards no one.
[05:09:31] But the BKP is going to try and get out of here with a Silver Edge.
[05:09:34] No one's going to try and do his best to stay on top of him.
[05:09:37] them. Maureen will stand in his ground against Satanic. Notice comes in and attempts to help
[05:09:41] with the Starbreaker. Maureen goes for another turn on to notice this time around. The blast
[05:09:45] comes out as no one's gone to the best of them all.
[05:09:49] It's the buyback coming in from Notice and it hasn't really enabled them to turn the
[05:09:54] fight around. Falcon's still strong here on the push and he's ready to go for another
[05:09:59] one. Maureen in with the jump on to Satanic. Great angle there with the stun. On to the
[05:10:02] two of them, there's Taytanic out, he'll buy back, no one tried to charge into the
[05:10:07] beginning of the fight but he gets caught by the Hex into the toss combo.
[05:10:10] They're forced to get a backstab to the Woolwitz, does catch up to Maureen but he's able to
[05:10:14] jump over towards the Carlos, Maureen's still alive, they can't even kill him the
[05:10:18] once. And now Falcons, they look to get back in beyond the barracks, the stolen
[05:10:23] guy is back up now, he will come across onto towards Cret and the starbreaker
[05:10:27] comes in, Cret will be able to save himself though with the heel still alive
[05:10:30] Slides out, Kritt lives, Statenix gone, it's a dive back on him, and now Falcons, they can look over towards no one and they can look towards game two as they'll close this game up.
[05:10:41] Falcons, I mean ParaVision, they got a respect, they let this house go in as the first pick, they say, you know what, we're gonna try and see if we've got a strategy to counter it.
[05:10:51] They do something a bit different with the Carriviper, and let's be honest, it did a lot better than I thought it would.
[05:10:57] They managed to live 42 minutes against a lineup that other teams probably wouldn't have managed to last 42 minutes against
[05:11:04] So it's something but at the end of the day it still was not enough
[05:11:09] No, that was a death profit, right? You cannot have this type of situation happen
[05:11:12] You pick DP last to try to counter it you die you get sent back to base pretty much immediately your level four when he's six
[05:11:17] But yeah, a pretty solid recover at least during those windows with the buyback to get the roast
[05:11:21] Yeah, that from Falcons but then afterwards you can still feel that Falcons were just kind of farming avoiding getting picked off
[05:11:27] here and there with a couple of heroes, but Paravision could not force the issue, and they were just behind the time again.
[05:11:32] They were. They were. They couldn't do it here with something a little different. You know, it was, you know, same time, he got a lot of farm on the way, but he did do a lot of damage, just wasn't enough against his Falcons, Huskar.
[05:11:44] And it really is also, it's the Falcons draft in general too. It's not just the Huskar.
[05:11:48] Sure is everything.
[05:11:49] It's the triple tanky core with this chended heals as well too, so.
[05:11:52] Well, we'll see what they do in game 2 in the draft. See if they leave that Huskar in, give it another attempt, see if they come up with a different approach.
[05:11:59] But this approach against this Falcons line-up did not work out here for Paraphras.
[05:12:05] This was not it. I am surprised they held on for like 40 minutes before being forced to call GG.
[05:12:12] They actually did come pretty close at doing damage to tier 3 towers to the side of Falcons.
[05:12:18] But Paravision, they had a very vast start to the game, as we, and it felt like they were on the back of the whole way through.
[05:12:27] They really did. I mean, they decided to look through this housecar. They had this idea with the wiper response, but then they ended up playing it away from the housecar, which I was curious what they would do and what it would look like, and if there was something that they were really cooking up here.
[05:12:43] But unfortunately, it went the way that you thought it would.
[05:12:46] Yeah, it's the writing was on the wall a little bit. I think I
[05:12:51] Will say they they recovered decently well
[05:12:53] But I think part of that is also somewhat of a misconception about Husskar and that the hero is very fast for like 10 or so minutes
[05:12:59] And then after that you it becomes slow again because it's very easy to get baited to press this life
[05:13:03] Rakespell and you kind of just kill yourself when you press this ball because you jump right next to them
[05:13:07] And then everyone keeps using you die
[05:13:08] And I think part of what makes Falcons the best Husskar team ever is that they understand the hero's slow parts
[05:13:13] and they don't force it. I think that's the the best and most impressive thing about the way they played this game is that they just farmed
[05:13:19] because a lot of people are gonna try to run into this viper and they're gonna die and they're gonna feed and they're gonna throw the game.
[05:13:24] But Falcons are like, nah, we're not gonna run in, we're just gonna farm until we have so many items that doesn't matter.
[05:13:28] And they did that and then they just win. And I think most teams think that's boring or lame or they get antsy or nervous and Falcons like,
[05:13:34] they're the kings of being chill and it's why they're so good at Huskar.
[05:13:37] I think there's two elements to it. I think it's like an understanding of the macro game that's very high from all their players.
[05:13:42] It's not just like a one-person thing. They all understand like this is how we want to play macro
[05:13:46] And that's why they feel so comfortable sitting back and farming and they feel so comfortable just like letting the gameplay out
[05:13:51] They can read the moves that can come in they know what to do
[05:13:53] And I think I mean they even actually did have a moment in this game where they did over extend
[05:13:57] Yeah, and they did run into the triangle
[05:13:59] It was kind of funny in the green room you were saying like the only way they can possibly lose this game
[05:14:02] Is if they run into the triangle and defeat and then like two minutes later
[05:14:06] They kind of did that and then the game got dragged out a bit, but I honestly I was quite impressed with party's gameplay
[05:14:12] I think they usually, when no one struggles, the entire team struggles,
[05:14:16] but in this game, they essentially had no mid laner for the largest part of the game.
[05:14:19] And they still managed to like find their moments and find their fights.
[05:14:22] And it shows that like they're operating at a high level right now.
[05:14:24] And I think despite having like a big draft disadvantage, they could still play the game.
[05:14:28] So hopefully in the next game, you know, they'll clean up the draft a bit
[05:14:31] and it'll be more exciting.
[05:14:33] Do you think they're going to let it through?
[05:14:35] Haskar? Yeah.
[05:14:36] I would be sort of surprised.
[05:14:38] I think like there's two ways to approach this.
[05:14:40] One is like you look at your bands and you think to yourself like maybe we
[05:14:43] Want to bounce my leader friendly because the main issue I think for them was the fact that this Huskar could be flexed
[05:14:48] All the way to the last fake despite like seeing all five heroes. They couldn't like pin down which lane it was gonna go in and
[05:14:55] If they could fix that issue, I think this game looks very different
[05:14:59] Or they decide, you know, we just want to play a completely different game
[05:15:02] We don't want to deal with it and then they try to beat one of the other horsemen as couldn't put it
[05:15:06] I think you just
[05:15:08] Bench it, right? You gave it a shot, you decide that Lich is not as threatening as Haskar and then maybe you give the Lich away
[05:15:15] I think it's much easier to address that style of hero than put themselves in the position that they were in because like you mentioned
[05:15:21] That was a pretty impressive game from Paravision, all things considered. At some point
[05:15:26] I thought it looked over for them and they found some key fights in that early game
[05:15:29] Like when they managed to bring everybody to kill that Haskar, like they dawn all to a D's edge
[05:15:35] So, I think a lot of other teams are crumbled and not even reacted to the Husqvar on that top lane.
[05:15:41] So, they've got good gameplay. Despite right here, I mean, you did end up losing Satanic,
[05:15:47] but it does amount to a net positive game here for Irvision.
[05:15:51] I mean, I think it's going to be a very interesting next game because
[05:15:55] Irvision will have first pick, which means they can first pick the Husqvar themselves,
[05:15:58] and then are they going to play it four, or are they going to play mid, or are they going to play carry?
[05:16:01] What are they going to do with it, right? Because they can flex it in theory to three roles,
[05:16:04] whereas Falcons are only flexing into two.
[05:16:06] So I wonder, is Falcons gonna ban it,
[05:16:08] or is Falcons like, we're the king of Huskar,
[05:16:10] we're not banning around here?
[05:16:11] Because there's that sort of sense of pride, I think.
[05:16:13] When you play here really, really wildly,
[05:16:15] you don't want to ban it.
[05:16:16] Even if it might be the right thing to do,
[05:16:18] people don't ban it sometimes.
[05:16:19] And I haven't seen them lose with the Huskar yet,
[05:16:21] before Huskar, so I'm actually quite curious to see
[05:16:24] how that goes, and if they, you know,
[05:16:26] probably come up before the fall.
[05:16:27] My question to the both of you is,
[05:16:29] now that we've seen that game play out,
[05:16:31] What do you think their idea was with putting the Viper on the safe zone and not choosing to chase the Huskar?
[05:16:37] Like if you were in their shoes, like what could that be saying?
[05:16:41] I mean, I'm I think when they saw the timber they felt like oh, it's like a gamble and then they try to pick
[05:16:48] They try to find another they have very very little time right because it took like two minutes to figure out their last ban
[05:16:53] And then they get into a position they're trying to figure out like can we pick a hero that's good against both Huskar and
[05:16:59] Timber in both lanes and
[05:17:01] And then they were thinking about mid-heroes and they landed on DP, even though it's not actually good against Huskar.
[05:17:08] I think that was what they thought was the best possible hero to even up the slate.
[05:17:13] And do you think there's potential with DP as a hero versus Huskar?
[05:17:17] Let's say the game played out differently on the slide lanes, could they have enabled her in a different way or it was just clicked from the get-go?
[05:17:24] No, I think DP is really bad against Huskar.
[05:17:26] You lose lane and I think if DP loses lane the hero is just horrendous in pretty much all the context
[05:17:30] The hero cannot play from behind is an absolute bot. I mean you saw at this game
[05:17:34] I think no one is probably top three mid players right now
[05:17:36] And he did literally nothing for the entire game and he can't like after the lane
[05:17:40] There's nothing he can do you're asking me what items he can possibly buy it's only creative. Nope. There's nothing
[05:17:45] There's nothing creative. No spies. He bought the Corellis, Corellis, the Ville, whatever it's called and
[05:17:50] And tried to do something which I think is a cool adaptation and it's a really good game for it
[05:17:53] It's a smart item not everyone would buy it and it doesn't matter because it's just it's just too late
[05:17:58] I feel like ten years ago DP was considered like descending as a was that heroes from powercraft
[05:18:04] Yeah, exactly. So it's a flame to puppy who was around ten years ago my old ideas. I don't mean it is flame
[05:18:09] I'm just saying I think it's like it's like there is a there's an idea behind it
[05:18:13] And it used to be good, but like when said like though does power creeping and like
[05:18:17] Like it's not like it's not the same for everyone right?
[05:18:20] Husker has gotten a lot stronger than DP has over the years.
[05:18:23] So I think that's like partially probably why it didn't work out and they kind of like
[05:18:29] They relied on that. Like I think I think they knew they were in a hard position when they had to pick their last hero already.
[05:18:34] I think if you interview them and you ask them, they would tell you the same thing. Like what's better? You tell me.
[05:18:39] Yeah, I'm sure that no one has had to play against a bunch of Huskers in his pubs.
[05:18:45] Maybe he tried DP already at some point, but he probably knew it was going to be a hard lane to begin with.
[05:18:48] But it's like, pick what you think maybe is the best thing against it, but I think Falcons
[05:18:56] is going to respect Bandai Huska, by the way, in their first phase.
[05:18:59] They got four Bams, other than the Nyx Assassin.
[05:19:03] Which other heroes do they have to ban against Paravision?
[05:19:06] Tez Ayo.
[05:19:07] I think they're gimmickies.
[05:19:10] I think so.
[05:19:11] I think they are too good at both of those heroes.
[05:19:13] I think Tez Ayo is the best cast player, and I think Nine Class is actually the best
[05:19:16] Ayo player right now.
[05:19:18] I played against these guys at Iowan pubs and I never beat it one time
[05:19:21] They find cores or it's messed up
[05:19:23] Wisp is I think perma ban from Falcon
[05:19:26] They also don't really play Wisp themselves
[05:19:27] Yeah, that's enough for Wisp
[05:19:28] So it's like why even try to figure it out
[05:19:31] I think Wisp is out
[05:19:32] Loundred seems to be banned almost always
[05:19:34] Yeah, that's true
[05:19:35] When you're on second pick it seems to just be the tournament
[05:19:37] It's just heroes out
[05:19:38] Uh, and then what we said?
[05:19:40] Kez
[05:19:40] Kez
[05:19:41] I don't even know, are you then gonna even ban Existasin?
[05:19:45] So then you're kind of picking between Nyx, Huskar, Caudal
[05:19:47] Like one of his like nine classes like third-party heroes, right?
[05:19:50] Yeah, I think there's also like a...
[05:19:52] I mean too, from Clint's point earlier, like you generally don't want to ban your own heroes.
[05:19:57] Because it creates like a bad precedent for the rest of the tournament as well.
[05:20:01] Like the thing with Oscar is it's so uniquely theirs and the like the second best team would be
[05:20:05] Hari. I don't think there's really any other team that plays Oscar to the same level.
[05:20:09] Maybe Maus arguably because of crystals.
[05:20:10] Okay, but they're not.
[05:20:11] Yeah, they're not very good.
[05:20:12] Yeah, and in the tournament.
[05:20:13] Yeah.
[05:20:14] So I think like...
[05:20:14] I was more thinking about it.
[05:20:18] You were more polite about it.
[05:20:22] So yeah, I think it matters less, but generally speaking, you want to allow yourself to be able to get the hero as I can think.
[05:20:27] It needs to be a threat, it needs to be a conversation, it needs to be a consideration for the enemy team that like, yeah, they know how to beat Huskar, but we can't beat it.
[05:20:34] That's when it's truly like broken. We need to matter for both sides.
[05:20:38] And it'll be interesting to see if it goes in that direction.
[05:20:42] I think something else to think about is because the Huskar was left through, and I don't think
[05:20:46] it will be left through for Falcons at least, that we couldn't really touch on the Storm
[05:20:50] Spirit.
[05:20:51] I think this is a hero that Falcons really don't like playing against, and with having
[05:20:54] a Coddle player in lane class and not having to address the Huskar in the mid lane, there's
[05:20:59] a big chance we see Keeper plus Storm in the game too, unless Falcons ban up one of the
[05:21:06] two.
[05:21:07] We're gonna, we're gonna find out, don't worry, we won't keep you in suspense.
[05:21:09] Actually, we will keep you in suspense because we're gonna take a break,
[05:21:12] but then we'll have the answer about how this draft is gonna play itself out, we'll see you afterwards.
[05:22:07] Get it off and watch it shine
[05:22:10] Come on and chase the dream and put them high
[05:22:14] Gonna lose my self and dance all night
[05:22:17] Oh, we're living on this night
[05:22:20] Ooh, this night
[05:22:24] You make me feel so alive
[05:22:27] Come on, come on, baby
[05:22:32] You make me feel so high
[05:22:35] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
[05:22:53] I just wanna live it
[05:22:55] Now it never is so hard to beat
[05:22:58] A moment like this can't push
[05:23:01] I got this on another level
[05:23:03] Going round and around
[05:23:06] When I'm with you
[05:23:07] Gonna sit here, help and watch it shine
[05:23:11] Come on and chase that dream and put it on right
[05:23:15] Gonna lose myself and dance all night
[05:23:19] We're living our best lives
[05:23:21] We're living our best lives
[05:23:25] You made me feel so alive
[05:23:28] Come on now, get it, baby
[05:23:32] You make me feel so alive
[05:23:36] Get it, get it, baby
[05:23:40] You make me feel so alive
[05:23:44] Come on now, get it, baby
[05:23:48] You make me feel so alive
[05:25:28] I want to hold you
[05:25:34] Come see the colors of the sky
[05:25:41] Paint the pictures we see
[05:25:48] Come to the far end now
[05:25:51] We go without a doubt
[05:25:54] We're high enough
[05:25:56] Oh, yeah, we keep it high and loud
[05:26:26] Uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
[05:26:37] You and I
[05:26:40] Waking touch the sky
[05:26:44] See how far these wings can fly
[05:26:51] And as I call it by
[05:26:54] We can turn back time
[05:26:56] Oh
[05:27:26] Welcome back, I know you never left me, remember I, but you just in case, you were watching
[05:27:43] the video on season 29, and we're in the middle of our autobiography, it's so many finals,
[05:27:49] we got Falcos and television and both teams obviously are great, according to Quinax he's
[05:27:55] the top two here at this event. But officially it's top six and obviously top four. She only
[05:28:01] turned the upper bracket for now. But that means there is a large or there can be a
[05:28:07] largest pregnancy and difference being made in the draft and that was the case in game
[05:28:13] one. And I kind of hope that game two, oh, oh, okay. If we got a little bit of a different
[05:28:21] That's right here. Yeah, that's nice
[05:28:23] It's a defraud. This is like a I actually think out of all the heroes they could let through this one is like
[05:28:29] Arguably Falcons weakest hero
[05:28:32] Yeah, I would agree with that. I also find it interesting that paravision chose second pick in one of the games
[05:28:37] I don't know if it was the first game or this game I didn't see
[05:28:40] But they have been second pick both games, so they chose it
[05:28:43] I think it's better, which is a little interesting. I think it plays into the way they like to do drafting
[05:28:48] I think they want to give away an OP hero and have a pre-perp plan.
[05:28:52] I feel like this really is like, we felt that when we played them at Wallachia one year and everybody was winning profit, it was after we won TI.
[05:28:59] And everybody went on profit against us, we never got to play it, not even in scrims.
[05:29:02] And then suddenly you play them and there's just profits open every single game, they're like go ahead pick it.
[05:29:06] Even if we didn't pick it first phase, they would let it through the second phase.
[05:29:09] And it is in some ways a little scary once they've proven to you that they can beat it.
[05:29:14] And I feel like that's the cool thing with this team is like once they when they're when it works and they do this
[05:29:20] That you don't really have like answers because they beat you on your best heroes. Yeah, it's a mental war game mental warfare
[05:29:29] One small detail is also that
[05:29:31] They didn't bet on the first two bands and so Falcons wasted a band on a and then they banned the huskar
[05:29:36] So you're forcing him to throw a band away basically to prep for your huskar, which is kind of cute
[05:29:40] you basically just make them waste one down.
[05:29:42] Yeah.
[05:29:43] Yeah, I like what you mentioned about them
[05:29:45] liking to beat teams, because I think that's
[05:29:48] how you become a championship team.
[05:29:50] Like, you just let the good heroes through,
[05:29:51] and you show every other team that takes them.
[05:29:56] They're not going to play for free.
[05:29:57] We talked to Puppy after their series versus Extreme,
[05:30:00] and he said, yeah, you got to beat the low and dried man,
[05:30:03] because they let low and dried through twice versus XG,
[05:30:06] and they beat them.
[05:30:06] And one of the heroes that they beat them with was Tiny,
[05:30:10] And the other was Ducalus on his Winter Wyvern.
[05:30:12] Like, both times they played it, and it looked really solid.
[05:30:16] And now back in the good old days of Koi Falon Druid on Mclenn,
[05:30:19] he hated playing his Wyvern.
[05:30:21] It was one of those heroes that he absolutely just hated playing against.
[05:30:25] For sure. I mean, I think that Arcdifern just does so much against the bear early on,
[05:30:30] especially the people maxing it now online instead of any other spell.
[05:30:34] And also, not that the bear is a hero, it's affected by Winter's Curse too.
[05:30:38] So to follow up on the winters, the one who I've been good and slow into it, you just need some disabled, some disabled from your team and Tiny is okay.
[05:30:46] That's true.
[05:30:47] What are you doing?
[05:30:48] I'm really chilling today, you're right.
[05:30:50] He's vibing!
[05:30:51] I told you dude, he was on stream.
[05:30:53] He was just vibing, he was talking to chat, he was vibing.
[05:30:57] Is he just checking in on the draft?
[05:31:00] I mean he has the wireless headset so it's like, you know, he's still very much there.
[05:31:04] He's being chilling.
[05:31:05] It must be good and proofing too, considering he was vacuumed at the same time.
[05:31:08] I think it was an alien where Hetzed was wearing.
[05:31:10] Oh my goodness.
[05:31:11] You did, we're not sponsored by them.
[05:31:14] I mean, I'm just playing at what I'm seeing. That's my job.
[05:31:17] I like this, what they just did.
[05:31:20] They banned Doom, and then they picked Timbersaw.
[05:31:22] Doom is good against both Timbersaw and Tiny.
[05:31:25] They kind of steal Timber, but I think Timber's also one of the best laning heroes against Lingerid.
[05:31:29] Because he's hitting you with two dudes, so you're getting extra...
[05:31:32] Reactive stacks and you kind of just want to endure virtual injured in land. I think it's pretty hard to actually beat sterile
[05:31:36] So something that survives is very cool
[05:31:39] And then you also have blast pick up your mid hero. So I like I like this a lot
[05:31:42] I think it's a cool decision. Yep, I like it too. This is the kind of hero stealing I can get behind
[05:31:50] Do you think Falcons want to run back a lion type hero for Criter if they're thinking about taking rubik because it was ignored in
[05:31:56] that game one and I do feel that Rivik is quite a good support to play against Tiny and Timber.
[05:32:02] And the play scales well against both these heroes. You have nice spells to steal,
[05:32:07] Fade Bolt is obviously very effective against Tiny in general.
[05:32:11] It's also something that Terry played as well.
[05:32:14] Fade Bolt? Yeah, I mean because it just reduces all the damage now.
[05:32:17] Oh, right, fair.
[05:32:20] Do they're selling so? Selling so? VVV?
[05:32:24] With that, I think they would probably lean more towards Lion or Hoodwink than Rubik.
[05:32:28] I think you need a little bit more catch with Sinister.
[05:32:30] If you have another super backliner, the name we call heroes like Lion or Batrars, we call
[05:32:37] them pseudo melee heroes.
[05:32:39] So they're not melee, obviously.
[05:32:40] But they function like a melee hero in some way.
[05:32:42] If they have catch, or they're a little bit more manly in how they run into Woods or how
[05:32:46] they play the early game, they're sort of the catching hero.
[05:32:48] I think Hoodwink also in some ways classified for us as a pseudo melee hero compared to
[05:32:52] something like a Rubik or a Winner Rider, which are just ranged heroes, right?
[05:32:55] Yeah.
[05:32:55] If none of that, like, sort of chads, these lines have.
[05:32:58] I think they don't utilize their health pool as a resource.
[05:33:03] Like, on Rubik, very rarely are you, like, playing to the limit of your health in the
[05:33:07] early portions of the fight, whereas a lion is, like, you're thinking about how to blink
[05:33:10] so you can get back out, and your health pool is more of a thing that your opponents
[05:33:14] have to consider.
[05:33:15] How do you guys feel about those smarts coming up?
[05:33:19] The ATF classic for sure, I think he plays it against Pimber every once in a while, like I think he doesn't, he likes the idea of like keeping him in place.
[05:33:27] I think I've seen him do this quite a few times. It's also very good against Colt. I mean, the thing with these two teams right now, a lot of these fakes are also assuming what's coming next.
[05:33:35] Because it's quite given, like they showed in Game 1 that they're gonna play their own drafts. They're not necessarily counterpicking, but they're building their own drafts.
[05:33:42] But within that, they're still taking good heroes, that's what they think is going to come.
[05:33:46] And I think probably party doesn't want to play Nixx into Gondor.
[05:33:51] Like, game plan wise, doesn't maybe match up that well.
[05:33:53] So they know like, Cautal has high probability when they see what's coming.
[05:33:57] And Mars is very effective at killing Cautal.
[05:33:59] Yeah.
[05:34:00] But what are your views on Mars's general strengths levels?
[05:34:04] Because I did see Falcons on Mars, but they're like countering Mikae's S-Laps.
[05:34:09] And that go-work really clutched, but in that rune's that stage, he just seemed like less of a hero.
[05:34:16] I think it was kind of bad.
[05:34:17] And you need to be really good at the hero, and you need to be like a team, like you need to be enabling some hyper carry.
[05:34:23] Like I think it makes sense with Longerud, because Longerud is literally AFK farming, and he wants lockdown, so like those heroes make sense.
[05:34:29] Longerud has no teamfights, Mars wants teamfight, like there's a lot of synergy there.
[05:34:32] Stylancer wants a fight starter, all three of these heroes, they did make sense in the work, even though some of them look like color scheme looks weird, I don't know if anyone else feels that bad.
[05:34:38] Oh yeah, oh yeah.
[05:34:38] When I look at these two heroes, it just looks kind of ugly.
[05:34:40] It's like some weird off-brand mardi gras.
[05:34:42] It only will look ugly if they don't get a blue next, and then a light one.
[05:34:47] Because then they've got like, you know, on this one. That's cool.
[05:34:51] I'm a big fan of when the color is like all match.
[05:34:53] It's actually blue, see? There you go.
[05:34:57] Witch Doctor is out again.
[05:34:58] So, Olin's Wildest Dreams might come true.
[05:35:01] We might have an Agonyms Witch Doctor in this game.
[05:35:03] I think, if anything, you call us.
[05:35:05] I don't know. He's good.
[05:35:06] He didn't do it last time.
[05:35:07] No, but the game didn't last long enough, didn't it?
[05:35:10] I think it did last long enough.
[05:35:11] Nah, it means another 20-25 minutes?
[05:35:15] Lack of carry minesweeps from the colors.
[05:35:17] Skill issue.
[05:35:18] Skill issue, for sure.
[05:35:20] I like Witch Doctor conceptually versus Lone Dread.
[05:35:25] However, I do think this hero is very easy to exploit,
[05:35:28] especially with heroes like Slaughter coming out on me.
[05:35:31] You lost me at I Like Witch Doctor.
[05:35:33] But he's just a chill dude.
[05:35:37] He is a chill dude.
[05:35:38] But you know like the archetype of heroes that we're talking about?
[05:35:41] I feel like Witch Doctor goes into like the I like to lose games archetype of, oh no,
[05:35:46] heroes.
[05:35:47] So you guys don't see any value in the Witch Doctor effect?
[05:35:50] I mean I can see ideas, like it's high damage against these tanky heroes, they want a way
[05:35:54] to cut through without.
[05:35:55] But I think the problem with Witch Doctor is that it almost never plays out the way,
[05:35:59] Like when you sit down on your computer, you're like 4k MMR, you think witch doctor, you own your lane because Maladik is like unplayable, like what can people do against Maladik, they just die.
[05:36:09] And then when you're level 61, you want to shot anyone, and like you can spawn the entire enemy team.
[05:36:14] And progames are just never placed out that way. And progames, you're a hero with no HP, no mobility, no escape tools, your spawn sucks, your spells are way too short range, you can't use them, they're all conditional, and it just feels bad.
[05:36:28] I'm not a fan of Witch Doctor.
[05:36:32] Do I have to max out Miladix if I'm on the lane?
[05:36:36] Sorry?
[05:36:37] Do I have to max out Miladix if I want to win the lane on Witch Doctor through my bracket?
[05:36:44] Yeah, yeah, for sure.
[05:36:45] I think in the lower brackets, I don't know what bracket you're in, Fugur.
[05:36:49] It's about 3-4k, yeah.
[05:36:50] Okay, okay, okay.
[05:36:51] Then I think Witch Doctor is one of the best heroes in the game, on Ironically.
[05:36:54] I feel like every time I see my friends play and there's a Witch Doctor in the game, the
[05:36:57] The guy has like 10 kills.
[05:36:59] You max now to get some points of stun, and then you stun...
[05:37:02] No heal! What if my carry is screaming,
[05:37:05] HEAL ME! HEAL ME!
[05:37:07] You need to think... imagine your slacks.
[05:37:09] Get into slacks mindset.
[05:37:10] Don't do that.
[05:37:11] Do that. It's good.
[05:37:12] Do that. I like this game.
[05:37:14] I believe that which doctor is popular for a reason.
[05:37:17] Like Quinn, some Falcons.
[05:37:19] Their game time looks pretty obvious, right?
[05:37:22] You've got these double jump heroes in Mars,
[05:37:24] the Slarner, and the Global Silencers to cover them.
[05:37:26] Do you think terrorism have a way to respond to that play within their draft?
[05:37:33] I think their way to respond is to start first.
[05:37:36] Like, both of those heroes don't really do anything until they have Blinks in some ways.
[05:37:40] Lawns are just a slow hero and they've got two split-sy supports that rely on their cores.
[05:37:44] So I think the way you beat that type of lineup is where they're relying on Blinks.
[05:37:47] And then the hyper carry is you punish them early.
[05:37:50] Same reason why a team like Spirit loses a lot of games to faster teams is because that's how they're playing.
[05:37:54] because that's how they're playing, right? They've got two set-up heroes on Laurel and
[05:37:57] Blast all the time, and then you always play in Hyper Carry, Matt. That doesn't function
[05:38:00] well whenever you get Snowbolt and Lanes. And so I look at Paravision, you get stacks
[05:38:04] up early, you get a fast Cawl 6, and you go fight in this interim between Cawl 6 and
[05:38:09] the Blinks. You want to abuse that window really hard, because Cawl is still 3-ting
[05:38:12] early game, you just farm some AFA's until he's Cawl 6. So I think there's that sweet
[05:38:16] spot that Paravision wants to have used very hard. And I'm not super sure what this mid
[05:38:20] hero is going to be. It can pick something like Ember, but it's kind of bad against
[05:38:24] slaughter and lane. So it's one of these situations again, where I was going to say, I feel like
[05:38:30] they falcons kind of eliminated all the temple myth options that you have with planters slaughter,
[05:38:35] you kind of covered all these like blocks and embers and storm is obviously banned out. So
[05:38:40] that's gone as like an anti melee to do. And yeah, I think they're just probably not a win the
[05:38:46] lanes right. They want to stop the temple for it comes online. I don't know, I hate this, I hate it.
[05:38:51] But the color scheme is good with five different ones.
[05:38:54] It did get better, it's true.
[05:38:56] I don't know, I think Viper...
[05:38:58] I think it's awful against Florida in the game,
[05:39:01] because he just runs, he crushes you, amps you, and then runs away.
[05:39:03] And you can't kill him.
[05:39:04] The lane's sure it's good for Viper, but it's Mal'Rean.
[05:39:07] It's Mal'Rean.
[05:39:08] We've seen this time and time again.
[05:39:09] Don't do this crap, it doesn't work.
[05:39:11] I hate this Viper, I think it sucks.
[05:39:13] And I think...
[05:39:14] Paravis's draft is really a weird problem like the last game,
[05:39:16] where they have no catch.
[05:39:17] It's one tiny against, like, I don't know,
[05:39:20] I don't know, he's playing it's amp and stuns, and Longer is ratting the map.
[05:39:23] I think they don't have enough catch for this Longer bear.
[05:39:25] I think they messed up.
[05:39:26] You sound a little frustrated.
[05:39:28] I'm just passionate.
[05:39:29] Passionate?
[05:39:30] I felt in the last game at least they could get like some nice cogs,
[05:39:34] and that way they could like do some setups, but this time around it's like,
[05:39:37] what, a nice cast?
[05:39:39] Doesn't sound as nice.
[05:39:40] It's not as nice.
[05:39:41] It's not, it doesn't have the same potential either.
[05:39:44] Humor me.
[05:39:45] If Viper wins med, then is there a way that they can just play through
[05:39:49] for running behind the Viper instead of chasing the Lingerator?
[05:39:52] Yeah, for sure.
[05:39:53] I mean, you can definitely...
[05:39:54] Witch Doctor can definitely come in, the two of us can fight together, and you can have
[05:39:56] someone that's in there.
[05:39:57] For sure.
[05:39:58] I think that's their best avenue into winning the game.
[05:40:01] We'll see if they can actually do that, though, as Aiden said about every mean thing
[05:40:07] you could say about Witch Doctor.
[05:40:08] I think Witch Doctor's mom's gonna call the stream, we're gonna need a phone call
[05:40:10] segment next file.
[05:40:11] Hey, maybe it's just a skill issue with my Witch Doctor, but I just don't see it really
[05:40:15] playing out that often.
[05:40:16] It hasn't worked before because they played a previous game this moment and he did go yeah
[05:40:21] And I think the lost I think I think they might have lost but it like the hero worked out
[05:40:25] You know the hero was heroine true. I
[05:40:28] think
[05:40:30] That the point that we made at the very start of the series or I think actually before the previous game
[05:40:36] Letting some heroes through trying to counter it. It's a good strategy
[05:40:40] You've got to do it and if not now then when right they tried it with us guard didn't work out
[05:40:45] They now are trying with the lone druid, and they have tried before, but not against palpite, so they go and do it again.
[05:40:51] And we'll see if it works, because that's just a question, and otherwise there is a lower bracket where Paravision is a strong team,
[05:40:58] so they probably are trusting the process that they'll make it through anyway.
[05:41:02] Let's see if they can make that lone druid suffer in game number 2 and 4, so I'll have a third game as they're over to the pocket time time now.
[05:41:45] Game 2 time here ladies and gentlemen, we're playing Paravision and Valkyrie's to change up.
[05:41:56] No Husqop this time round, they say well we just don't want to try and even think about dealing with their second time round.
[05:42:01] It's hell with the bands.
[05:42:03] Stop here and show them their faces, give me the Viper. Again coming out last this time round for the first pick.
[05:42:08] But this time it is at least a mid rather than a carry.
[05:42:10] Carried, yes, cross-strait tannic plates and carry, tiny here for Paravision here in this game too.
[05:42:15] And it went with some wish-doctor again, we saw it from the before, looked a lot of fun.
[05:42:20] What do you make of it though, overall the Paravision draft?
[05:42:23] Looking at snowball lanes, really hard snowball around this viper and shut them down.
[05:42:28] Falcons, they have really good team-fight designed around this and they have a very strong draft that thrives off corrosive haze as well.
[05:42:34] All three cores can use it, the Mars a little less so of course, but can absolutely admit it.
[05:42:39] This is the approach they're just going for first blood. Yeah
[05:42:42] I'm now
[05:42:44] They'll get it they tried to give it a Maureen, but couldn't have to just take themselves still
[05:42:49] We'll be very happy with that. Yep, and they had he actually said in the beginning of aim
[05:42:53] It mercy please pretty much kind of in a way not the exact same translation and they're not being merciful towards this viper
[05:43:00] Have to talk about some of these heroes also on Falcons. I'll ring master
[05:43:03] I know I've talked about this one quite a lot with you
[05:43:05] I really like this hero especially because there's so many tanky cores the triple impalement hearts. They really work all stages of the game
[05:43:11] It's looked good. It just we haven't seen it as much as some of these other supports right now
[05:43:15] I think it's a lot harder. It's infinitely harder to play than every other support at the moment like this techies
[05:43:21] You know this hoodwink they very naturally play themselves ringmaster
[05:43:25] Infinitely harder so wave pulling it's gonna happen in the mid lane. We'll see what the viper looks to do to try to stop it
[05:43:32] That was the big thing as well
[05:43:34] This game opting to let the Lone Druid through, how, how did their answers look against the Lone Druid?
[05:43:41] Because obviously a lot of teams they don't want to even bother thinking about this era if they do not let it through.
[05:43:46] I think Tiny has some pretty good merit to be able to hunt and find the hero at times, right?
[05:43:49] I just, I'm worried because of the lack of catching it. They have like really limited catch on the side of Paravision.
[05:43:55] They won't be able to take care of them on the bottom lane.
[05:43:57] Coloss?
[05:43:59] We'll take out.
[05:44:01] A lot of damage coming out from Crit here.
[05:44:04] And Mal'Rain will get a fair bit out of this mid-match up and like Quinn was talking about the thing about this Viper versus Florida in the mid game
[05:44:11] It can be pretty devastating if they just get on top of you with that Coro's to break reset
[05:44:16] Viper is all designed about dominating and keeping that pressure forward and not falling behind. This hero is insanely immobile
[05:44:22] You can absolutely fall into the problem. We're just getting caught in.
[05:44:25] And this bottom lane
[05:44:27] They've got to be finding kills right? This is how you make a witch doctor work, you know, to Carlos
[05:44:32] He's looking for early action in the month and definitely not the easiest one even though
[05:44:35] We don't really see Mars that often anymore. It is a mar playing it. So have to respect it
[05:44:41] but a hero that has absolutely been
[05:44:45] I don't know quite a lot weaker than I think people had hoped to see because it's kind of a lot of the same offlaners
[05:44:49] We are seeing most games Mars has fallen off
[05:44:56] Right now noticed is struggling a lot in this top lane
[05:44:59] He's got a coddle behind him to keep him, you know, man it up, but the spam that comes up from snaking and from Skeeter
[05:45:05] It's a bit too much damage.
[05:45:06] Lookerknights that, he might just die.
[05:45:09] Oh wow. The glaives are adding up.
[05:45:14] This is a hero that was meant to just be able to stay up here and show exist, but not the case versus the silencer.
[05:45:22] Maureen.
[05:45:24] Drag the wave again.
[05:45:26] Crip finding nothing. A lot of courier is being killed in this part.
[05:45:33] He's got the sprint there.
[05:45:34] He's in the water.
[05:45:37] Lightning speed immediately. Can't fully chase him out.
[05:45:41] Bottom?
[05:45:42] Got the Maladik, Tom Crip.
[05:45:43] Only level 1 still. He's not very...
[05:45:45] He's very fine.
[05:45:48] That was the counter-maladik too in this draft. They have the strong masonics.
[05:45:51] One of the better answers, I would say. To Coloss.
[05:45:53] Because a lot of damage.
[05:45:57] Mars? Oh no, taking a lot.
[05:45:59] He's got a lot of one-charges on him, huh?
[05:46:03] Those creeps actually hurt so much.
[05:46:05] Mars is having just three armor. He takes so much damage in the waiting phase.
[05:46:09] So they're struggling a lot in these lanes, as we see.
[05:46:11] The Mars and the Slaughter, they're trying to get what they can.
[05:46:13] But that Lone Draughty is having absolute free time up top.
[05:46:17] It is designed like this for paravision, right?
[05:46:22] They have a Viper versus a main lane mid, so in our particular, so that he should, on
[05:46:26] paper, crush it and bottom, they have to switch, doctor.
[05:46:29] So the Maladix is super strong versus Amar.
[05:46:33] So setting up those two lanes for success at the moment.
[05:46:36] His bottom lane's fun to watch, though.
[05:46:40] Maladix.
[05:46:41] That'll be fine.
[05:46:42] Still plenty of one-charges to offset damage.
[05:46:44] It's a big creep wave too, for Static.
[05:46:51] Static getting a little low though.
[05:46:53] Got the heal.
[05:46:54] Just need to call this, he didn't even get casted in this lane.
[05:46:58] It's actually doing a decent amount of work.
[05:47:01] Being able to offset the damage that's coming in.
[05:47:03] Oh! Oh my god! The whip!
[05:47:05] The whip! Whipped by Cripp!
[05:47:07] Max damage, 280.
[05:47:10] Gets the full connection and Static can't go for the kill here.
[05:47:13] the hit before he went for the throw and couldn't quite get the right click.
[05:47:17] I can't look away from this lane because there's things so low.
[05:47:20] And you're seeing the constant buildup of damage from the Impalment Arts.
[05:47:22] It does start to add up with these high HP heroes.
[05:47:25] Oh, Panic?
[05:47:26] Alright, I'm all messed up there.
[05:47:29] Grenade?
[05:47:29] One grenade missed.
[05:47:30] Crit also messed up.
[05:47:32] Oh!
[05:47:33] Oh!
[05:47:35] It's a Panic playing nicely.
[05:47:38] Level 5 now for him.
[05:47:41] Very big kill, Crit.
[05:47:42] I'm not able to get the connection there.
[05:47:48] Doc continues to be incredibly difficult to notice.
[05:47:55] Right up for him to get much from this at all.
[05:47:58] I was wondering what I'm hearing pulsing in my ears as to which Doc's deals is constantly going down here.
[05:48:03] Having the raindrop, having the stick, he has a lot of mana to work with since he's playing versus the Mars and the ringmaster, the constant spam that comes out from the 2.
[05:48:13] Great! Unistakle! He was the way to ruin it! And they set up for a kill with these 3?
[05:48:19] I mean, Maaren's never close in with the crush.
[05:48:21] So, he's just connecting.
[05:48:23] Are they gonna have him? There's gonna be no one dead again in the mid.
[05:48:26] Oh, that is devastating.
[05:48:28] Well, the TPI is what is Maaren gonna live?
[05:48:30] The box? It takes him.
[05:48:31] Oh, it does. That's a good call as well. I think he might die right if they continue with the TP.
[05:48:35] Yeah, I have like 90%, 95% chance.
[05:48:38] Now, Rene almost dies anyway.
[05:48:40] Nine class, let's get a big blast onto him. He will be okay.
[05:48:44] Viper dying twice in the laning phase.
[05:48:48] We're not where you want to be at here on no one. He is still solid farm to treat.
[05:48:52] Won't connect.
[05:48:56] We'll be able to push Amar away there at the seven minute wisdom.
[05:48:59] Paravision should be able to take that away from Falcons.
[05:49:02] The bear though is looking to steal.
[05:49:05] Are they going to make it there in time? Viper, very slow hero.
[05:49:08] And their best help we got by, they're going to try and get some heroes over it to stop
[05:49:11] Paravision getting the steal.
[05:49:12] Viper makes it in the ring, first with the bear.
[05:49:17] See?
[05:49:18] On the other side, they're going to try and fight here with the two of them, the avalanches
[05:49:22] down.
[05:49:23] So Paravision, not only get the wisdom, but they'll actually, well it looks like we get
[05:49:28] both the kills.
[05:49:29] Ooh, ooh, ooh!
[05:49:30] They get into the map.
[05:49:31] The Maladict will do the job.
[05:49:32] And they do defend.
[05:49:33] There's no one got there, literally,
[05:49:34] split second on the Viper to stop the laundry from taking it.
[05:49:39] DuKalus, the witch doctor.
[05:49:41] The Maladict is coming into play.
[05:49:43] He's going to get a good timing on the six as well
[05:49:45] with those pickups.
[05:49:47] Shutting down this Mars in the same manner
[05:49:49] that his Timbersaw is shut down on the opposite side.
[05:49:52] Zero three are ready for a Mars.
[05:49:55] We get a tough entry into this game.
[05:49:58] And it's their two initiators, right? It's the Slardar and the Mars, which they're light up, really wants to do quite well in the mid-game so that they can use the two supports effectively, so being slow-bound will definitely hurt them.
[05:50:08] But the Lone Druid, Skeeter is having a free one.
[05:50:14] And we've seen what happens when the Lone Druid gets free far many times before.
[05:50:20] How many stacks do they have for notice, because that's always what we talk about for the Timbersaws, right?
[05:50:24] Even if his lane's a little rough and has crazy stacks, it almost gets the bear.
[05:50:30] Not quite able to.
[05:50:32] Bottom again.
[05:50:33] I remember the dive, Static's getting healed up, but the heal's not strong enough quite yet.
[05:50:37] Here comes Mal'Rean, they're gonna get home for them.
[05:50:40] Big damage from him, hitting the level 6.
[05:50:42] It's very early to have this 6 on the Slardar when he was putting the lane versus the Viper.
[05:50:46] Quick rotation, quick kills.
[05:50:48] tiny stoppers versus this minus armor early quite hard it gets put to negative
[05:50:59] trying to get pressure on to mid no one doesn't want to make a rotation to
[05:51:05] defend this bottom tower here just yet maybe waiting until to call us it's
[05:51:08] Close enough.
[05:51:11] Great.
[05:51:16] He can juke this.
[05:51:17] Got a Funhouse Mirror as well.
[05:51:19] He should be okay here on this Ringmaster, and the push continues.
[05:51:24] Something they can do down here.
[05:51:26] He's running up here, but the arena's down.
[05:51:29] Gonna trap the two of them.
[05:51:30] T'Kala's taken out by the bear.
[05:51:33] Notice this turned up. They won't get Malrin.
[05:51:35] He wants.
[05:51:37] It's gonna be tricky to get Amar as well.
[05:51:39] Jigsit.
[05:51:41] Limited mana unnoticed.
[05:51:42] He'll keep you out.
[05:51:44] Now, chase him for Fasquita though.
[05:51:45] Might be able to push him with the blinding light.
[05:51:47] He's trying to get in front.
[05:51:49] But they're back with him.
[05:51:50] Does he body block?
[05:51:51] No, he's a good body block from 9-class.
[05:51:53] He is.
[05:51:54] He's making the blast out as well.
[05:51:56] They're gonna get the kill on 9-class to oblige that.
[05:51:58] Someone's hit him and thank you.
[05:51:59] Yeah, I was about to say that was an insane play from 9-class.
[05:52:02] Level 6 now, too.
[05:52:03] to gonna have the holy locket at a very good time that was perfect the way he
[05:52:07] blocked him so far looking so much better than game one here for para
[05:52:12] vision infinitely so I like no one made them are oh yeah he's not done he's
[05:52:17] trouble now they're gonna get him for sure another big killer for para vision
[05:52:23] for death on a mark great I mean great rotation from no on in particular he was
[05:52:28] chasing initially versus the ringmaster and then instantly keep these bottom when
[05:52:31] is witch doctor gets there they punish the over commitment from falcons up to a 3k lead
[05:52:35] and notice is making the recovery while Amar is most definitely not right now.
[05:52:46] These two are going to have to do a lot from behind the starter and the Mars to try and
[05:52:51] slow things down it's just it's not going to be easy and they are playing versus a lot
[05:52:55] of sustain until we do have to talk about that right the Kado plus the witch doctor
[05:52:58] with the heal, which Dr. One not the greatest of course, but every little thing will add up when
[05:53:02] you're limited on damage. Right now Falcon's on it, pretty big backfoot. Even though the Lundruid's
[05:53:07] farming very well, this Caudal is gonna get closer and closer to catching up versus the Mars'
[05:53:12] Flunar very quickly, especially with how Night Class plays it. Slice for the farm, and itemize
[05:53:19] this for the support, of course, with that Holy Locket early. And definitely limited damage
[05:53:27] He's gonna be coming out from the side of Falcons now at this point versus these three tanky Khorus.
[05:53:37] Kind of looks for no one here. They do have level six on Crit.
[05:53:43] He's not the most healthy either, about half HP, but he does seem to know something's up. He's pinging it already.
[05:53:51] Very difficult target.
[05:53:52] And a mark. Again.
[05:53:54] Ooh, it's starting to get really rough for a mark.
[05:53:57] What a cast bounce! Right on top of him. They're cruising in this game, oh and this
[05:54:03] is looking infinitely better and their draft looks, I mean they do have these
[05:54:06] ganky cores that are gonna be able to put a lot of pressure on to Falcon's
[05:54:10] limited damage and they can push buildings pretty easily too. With the
[05:54:14] backup of the heals from Nightclask. They're just trying to drag waves here at
[05:54:19] this point on the side of Falcons. Get the blink dagger at least finished up for
[05:54:23] Maureen so they can use either Global or the Ringmaster because these two heroes,
[05:54:27] these two supports, they do need someone to start the fight for them and oh oh my look
[05:54:33] at this stack I mean they're gonna have to try and do something about this file because
[05:54:36] I just don't know if they can right now I think you bring the squad it's dying fast
[05:54:40] clear most of it here paravision now because they're trying to step up now put the global
[05:54:45] but already Amara's snaking are pretty much dead snaking's gone Amar's gonna die this
[05:54:51] Which is owning
[05:54:54] He did it the other day also on the way doctor, but my goodness that was quite a
[05:55:01] Beautifully here shutting down any recovery outlet there for Falcons as well skitter versus the world
[05:55:11] London has definitely done it. He has the world before you know one of the reasons why it gets banned out quite a lot
[05:55:18] This hero can get crazy.
[05:55:20] So Amar walks up to try to ulti, he gets stunned, and then he's pretty much just dead before anything happens.
[05:55:26] Oh, the cast bounced back to him again in the middle of ulti.
[05:55:29] Wait, what?
[05:55:30] Ask him good bounces.
[05:55:32] I mean, college, he's a good way to start to play.
[05:55:35] He's the way you play in your pubs with a cast.
[05:55:37] It's level one, but it will bounce back to you every time.
[05:55:41] He did this, he literally did this the other day versus Nisha too.
[05:55:43] When he was playing versus Storm, remember he ran into the Roshka, gets like the double bounces.
[05:55:48] doing some really really fancy footwork. A hell of an entrance into the game, a 6k lead with this tiny
[05:55:56] and the Mars threat, we do have to talk about Mars. Hero that's been struggling, we were saying
[05:56:00] it's a Mar-Mars so can have these recoveries but man, 1 in 6. What is it about the hero that
[05:56:06] kind of puts in a place right now where it's just not top of the list for off-laner picks?
[05:56:09] Limited damage off-laner, not the tankiest in particular in comparison to pretty much all the
[05:56:14] other ones now at this point and has just got in nerfed a lot lost his facets
[05:56:19] might just get going on again here and I'm classing no one on the way
[05:56:24] come on they'll drop the arena but he's immediately bounced out of it he's
[05:56:28] having no fun in this game
[05:56:33] seven deaths one of the rougher games he's had I think yeah it has to be and
[05:56:41] it's pretty clever with the way PowerVision set up the draft to with the
[05:56:44] the first two pick Timbersaw and if you saw the bands too, Don was banned. Underlord,
[05:56:48] like all the offlaners was banned. He's gonna try and go for nine claws but nine claws
[05:56:52] is not on his own. Maladik will force them away. I mean it's just very hard for them
[05:57:00] to make a play. It's Nemo's face down it. Pick some of the easy kill, Fani's snaking
[05:57:06] and that's gonna be the Shadowblade done so he's gonna be able to continue to hunt.
[05:57:10] Insanely early, they haven't even gone back to farm their stacks. They've just been able
[05:57:14] able to play this beautifully, play aggressive, rather than on the defensive posture, noticed
[05:57:19] even threatening skater.
[05:57:20] He walks out, the ulti.
[05:57:23] The times have certainly changed from the laning stage where notice was getting bullied
[05:57:29] by this lone druid.
[05:57:30] Now the lone druid has to run from him.
[05:57:32] Or Ma.
[05:57:33] Or Ma, it just has no space for it.
[05:57:36] Oh here comes DeKal, she don't expect the Invis Room which docks up.
[05:57:40] Uh oh.
[05:57:41] Uh oh.
[05:57:42] Here we go, my addiction. It's coming in.
[05:57:47] They're gonna have him again.
[05:57:51] Fair well, Mark. I don't think he hit a single creep. He walked up, dies, walked up, dies, walked up, dies.
[05:57:55] He hasn't hit a creep in a very long time. They truly have his number this game. And it's the Doctor.
[05:58:01] At the Carlos's. He's doing it a lot.
[05:58:05] He is.
[05:58:06] And he's a respectful player. He's not going the axe build, Rush. I'm still waiting for that.
[05:58:11] Of course not.
[05:58:14] Greaves are in amazing condition.
[05:58:15] He's building up the confidence.
[05:58:16] He's winning these games with the Greaves.
[05:58:18] Stop it.
[05:58:18] You didn't realize.
[05:58:19] Just rush that.
[05:58:20] No.
[05:58:21] Blinkcans.
[05:58:22] He's versus Silencer.
[05:58:26] Another catch.
[05:58:28] Falcons are getting completely destroyed.
[05:58:30] They really are.
[05:58:31] This is gonna feel good for Paravisium, right?
[05:58:33] After enduring quite a nasty game.
[05:58:36] What?
[05:58:36] Can they kill Nightclash?
[05:58:37] He's barely tanky.
[05:58:38] I mean, the heels are out from the car.
[05:58:40] Let's make a barely touch him.
[05:58:41] Oh, Static! He's trying to cast in!
[05:58:43] Hello!
[05:58:44] Fritz got the box!
[05:58:46] The cast is there!
[05:58:47] Couple of hits from Static!
[05:58:49] Ooh! How much actually misses?
[05:58:52] Doesn't matter.
[05:58:52] I need the Malusix to let him get a couple more hits.
[05:58:54] In! That's the toss!
[05:58:56] Another one for Static!
[05:58:58] Yeah, they're getting some real revenge!
[05:59:00] Ah, for having to...
[05:59:02] go through that...
[05:59:03] Falcon's Huskies treatment in GameWarp.
[05:59:07] Skaters, okay guys, how's everything going over there?
[05:59:10] The only one having a good time in this game for his team, everyone else is definitely quite miserable.
[05:59:15] Amar has to find some type of farm. Runs down towards bottom.
[05:59:20] And there's the other thing about this hero, right? I don't know what other builds you got.
[05:59:23] I think this hero is literally a blink shard BKB hero and there's not really any other ways to deviate.
[05:59:28] There really isn't. It's like maybe you can theory craft some sort of like mage there or deso to kind of play around the rebuke, but then...
[05:59:36] And BKB counters you, that's the other thing too, but there's a lot of difference in losing your fastest, etc. like we talked about, we've caused some problems as we're seeing it, but they truly have this number with this witch doctor, interroach super early.
[05:59:49] The game plan, looking clean as ever in the execution, absolutely there so far, 9 class having Lockett, he's got Ghost Factor, it's really only physical damage now at this point on Falcons, and they're starting to build up more and more of these answers.
[06:00:03] Yeah, they, as you said, put this drafting needed to dominate the early game, Paravision,
[06:00:09] and they've done exactly that.
[06:00:10] They actually really dominated it.
[06:00:12] Amar.
[06:00:13] Looking for a play, just gonna be a courier, he's gonna give himself away, it's a Tannick.
[06:00:20] Falcons are looking for action.
[06:00:22] Yeah, decent crush run of the two of them, Global's out as well as the wheel.
[06:00:28] They've got the catch on above the two, notice.
[06:00:30] It's still alive, and Static just comes in with a full combo, the Death Ward is gonna kill Skeeter!
[06:00:36] To Carlos there, he's got the answer for the old bear.
[06:00:40] With that Death Ward finishing off Skeeter as he desperately tried to run away from it.
[06:00:44] They were able to focus fire one target pretty effectively with literally everything being thrown on to notice,
[06:00:49] but that's where Static just reigns supreme, gets what, a three-man avalanche, cause combo, cleaving right on them.
[06:00:54] See again.
[06:00:55] That wasn't me, that was quite pretty there.
[06:00:56] Yeah, he just...
[06:00:57] I mean it already looked awful from Falcons the position they're in right moving out here into the river look how stacked they are to
[06:01:04] That is just picture proof. Mr. Low drew it the bear and the ringmaster and then the death was down those final
[06:01:10] Right clicks from the deathboard. Oh, they actually got the bear and the bear kill kill the other one
[06:01:14] So they got the double money. Well, they got the extra the bonus
[06:01:17] Yeah, to God's got the plus 285 on top of the extra frontal that will go towards the agonims
[06:01:22] Maybe.
[06:01:24] Okay, Greaves just needs a recipe for that.
[06:01:26] He can go after the Greaves in this game.
[06:01:28] I'm alright with that.
[06:01:29] That's true, because there's this body head.
[06:01:30] Yeah.
[06:01:31] That's right, that's right.
[06:01:32] Let's go.
[06:01:33] I know you want it.
[06:01:34] Or stay tannic.
[06:01:35] Oh no, poor Orc tanking.
[06:01:37] Bye-bye.
[06:01:41] I don't know, it's kind of nice to be able to drew a gift.
[06:01:43] Dumpster.
[06:01:44] That's good.
[06:01:45] There's a lot of lone Druid haters out there.
[06:01:47] So this will feel pretty good for those watching.
[06:01:49] watch it more but it will feel pretty terrible for those if this lone druid
[06:01:54] actually wins this game that's all I got to say look what he's cute up oh yeah
[06:01:59] the quad my the quad my distance he's at this point on they have to just all in
[06:02:06] single targets and hope they can pop them every single time the side of
[06:02:10] Falcons don't know if they can do it on Centanix though he is quite a bit of a
[06:02:14] different piece. They're gonna try.
[06:02:17] Got the control of the wheel but they're taking a lot of damage in return.
[06:02:21] Is it enough?
[06:02:22] Can they kill him off? They cannot. DeGales is here with the heals. Global's coming out
[06:02:26] as well. Chris's trying to reach him to finish the kill off but he won't get it. Satanic
[06:02:31] survives. Crypt will die.
[06:02:34] Amar wanted to get back in but gets hit by the Viper. He lives. The Holy Locket coming
[06:02:40] in. Night class gets the angle. That was closer than I thought they would be able to spam
[06:02:44] They nearly had him!
[06:02:46] Clearly indeed. If they had the launcher, they would probably have killed him there, but...
[06:02:49] Back up from the team...
[06:02:51] Then it's here too to fall.
[06:02:53] And here's the heals.
[06:02:57] I don't know, which doctor is gonna start coming back?
[06:03:00] I mean, this very good versus tanky offlaner is it just...
[06:03:03] Usually he doesn't have this type of design where it works.
[06:03:06] And it is very good in like every other bracket other than the top bracket, right?
[06:03:11] So there's something there with this hero!
[06:03:13] Maybe the top rackets just doesn't know.
[06:03:14] That's true.
[06:03:15] They don't know.
[06:03:19] Not fucking very good.
[06:03:20] They played beautifully around in some of these casks,
[06:03:22] we will say they were quite fortunate,
[06:03:24] but they have truly estimated Amar in particular.
[06:03:32] 21 minutes in and the Viper pick.
[06:03:34] We have to highlight quite a bit of them here, too.
[06:03:35] The Viper did its job.
[06:03:37] Yeah.
[06:03:37] Not in the back.
[06:03:38] Oh, look at kind of drag back under the tier fours.
[06:03:41] Because he's got this Aegis so he doesn't care.
[06:03:43] I'm all dead again.
[06:03:45] It's time to be stepped for snaking.
[06:03:46] Laundrake's not gonna get to play Laundrake.
[06:03:48] They're ending the game.
[06:03:50] They can stay here. They might even just go for the next building.
[06:03:52] I think I think you do.
[06:03:53] Why not? They're full health.
[06:03:54] Does that need to leave?
[06:03:55] They've got all the heals.
[06:03:58] The game plan absolutely working for Paravish in this game.
[06:04:01] We're trying to slow them down.
[06:04:03] On the plus side, the respawn timer's...
[06:04:05] Oh, very low.
[06:04:06] Noticed.
[06:04:08] Nice play.
[06:04:09] Having some fun in our ParaVision.
[06:04:11] Sounds pretty.
[06:04:12] I mean, they've been having fun all game.
[06:04:14] This game...
[06:04:15] It was always a question, right, coming in from Game 1,
[06:04:17] if you're going to come in a bit tilted, they did not.
[06:04:19] And there it is.
[06:04:20] Gigi has called ParaVision
[06:04:22] one of the quicker wins we've had here
[06:04:24] at Dream League, considering how many long games,
[06:04:26] about 22 minutes in,
[06:04:28] they absolutely destroyed Falcons
[06:04:31] and very much say,
[06:04:32] where's your husk on now?
[06:04:34] Very good pressure.
[06:04:35] The mid lane and the bottom lane in particular,
[06:04:37] They absolutely own this game and really good rotations right? No one he did die once or twice
[06:04:42] Immediately just keep these bottom gets so many kills and overall it's a mark
[06:04:46] He just ends with 12 deaths unable to really play the game
[06:04:49] Yeah, that's just complete a complete spell and the carless on this witch doctor
[06:04:55] We are gonna see more of it
[06:04:57] I want to see if other teams get the confidence to pick it because it's looking great if you're able to 4 and 13 here
[06:05:03] Under Carlos is which though if you're able to get these like set up kills constantly in the lane right that's where this hero does look good
[06:05:09] And yep, that's I mean literally exact what happened
[06:05:11] It's like to it to the T and and the lane combo is one of those great ones right because you have you know
[06:05:16] Maladik and then easy follow-up damage for sake Tannick is the tiny throwing to ensure that they can just completely crush that lane as they
[06:05:23] Did and I liked that he went to heal at level 2 right it was off
[06:05:26] He was a lot of the spam that was coming out from a mark and from crit and then they were just able to get these
[06:05:31] crazy amount of kills and snowball off of it.
[06:05:34] Wow, well there we go. This game too, indeed as I say, their ParaVision shown very much
[06:05:38] what they can do when they don't leave the chance of a Huskar getting through and have
[06:05:42] to worry about dealing with that. Outside of that, they just absolutely crush Falcons
[06:05:46] in this second game. It's going to be very interesting to get into Rejoice to see what
[06:05:51] they do now on the side of Falcons. We'll see how they change it up. But right now,
[06:05:58] One hit between Paravision and Falcons.
[06:06:02] Well, well, well, if it isn't the vindication of Viper.
[06:06:07] Yeah, he did well this game.
[06:06:10] Although I would place the majority of the blame,
[06:06:12] and we're talking about a backstage,
[06:06:13] but I placed the majority of the blame on the Mars
[06:06:15] and how the offline went.
[06:06:16] They kind of got completely trashed.
[06:06:19] And this tiny arrow also kind of just time after time,
[06:06:22] seems to be pretty OP.
[06:06:24] It's not getting that highly prioritized.
[06:06:26] I mean, this game, it's picked on 9.
[06:06:27] But in general, it's not that super prioritized, but it's win rate must be psychotic because it feels like it never loses
[06:06:33] It just does a lot for your team. But with Mars, every time I see this hero, it just kind of sucks online
[06:06:39] Like when it looks like it's picked for a very specific purpose or a very specific combination
[06:06:45] I think that's when the hero can thrive
[06:06:48] But in situations like this where it doesn't counter pick a tiny and it doesn't really see anything
[06:06:53] That it wants to do and it's not like a layer to the big team fight ulti. What could be the reason in there?
[06:07:00] I mean it might just be a lack of options
[06:07:03] I think a lot of times when Falcons picks something that doesn't seem like it makes a lot of sense is because
[06:07:09] Of the way they draft right they draft in a structure where you pick this hero or that hero when those are bad
[06:07:14] You pick this and you go in the circle, right?
[06:07:15] And maybe they just don't have answers for tiny outside of Timbersaw and Doom because they're both out of the options
[06:07:20] And they're like, uh, I guess we could pick Mars
[06:07:23] But if anything it's a tiny super good against Mars your tank you don't care about getting trapped in a box because you're a blob anyway
[06:07:29] Yes, you know stuns or like everything about it. It's very nice
[06:07:32] so I think they kind of kind of picked themselves at the Mars and
[06:07:36] I talked about how they get snowballed they definitely got snowballs. They did for sure
[06:07:40] I mean I have to say watching nine-class play
[06:07:43] Cottle is really fun
[06:07:44] Like even in that game one it felt like he was doing what he could on the map like getting a few kills here and there
[06:07:50] But in this game, he was making plays like blasting back the lonely road into body blocking him into killing the resummon
[06:07:57] He's definitely super fun to watch. I agree and I think they made a really good call leaving the laundry
[06:08:04] I think that is probably a hero that Paravision is very well suited to fraud check. Yeah, this bounce back was super sick
[06:08:12] This is a this is nasty. I love we're talking about backstage
[06:08:15] I love how they made this this bridge just one hero wide and block people if we see funny stuff happen like that all the time
[06:08:22] But I think I think para vision is really good against laundry because I think they're one of the faster teams right now
[06:08:27] I'm one of the better teams that really taking advantage and pushing it to the limit
[06:08:30] Yeah, I don't think a lot of teams could win the game as quickly as they did even if so you handed them the same game
[06:08:36] Paravision had a 10 minutes
[06:08:37] I think para vision wins that game a lot faster than most of the teams
[06:08:40] Yeah for sure like going high ground that early is maybe something that other teams would be afraid of even with
[06:08:45] that lead of Steven.
[06:08:47] Dota teams become more hesitant,
[06:08:48] especially when it comes to
[06:08:50] finding the close games out early
[06:08:51] and Dota has naturally shifted
[06:08:53] until going past minute 40,
[06:08:56] almost consistently.
[06:08:57] But how do you cultivate that though,
[06:09:00] wanting to play tempo in a meta
[06:09:03] where you can just lose the game
[06:09:04] off of one mistake?
[06:09:06] I think a lot of it is driven
[06:09:08] by individual players.
[06:09:10] Like someone needs to really want to
[06:09:12] or really need to.
[06:09:13] Like I think about the teams
[06:09:15] are like mega killers and I think it's driven by one guy you think about OG I think about
[06:09:19] Jarax right this guy is like he couldn't stop killing people Moth who described him as like
[06:09:23] a dog on a leash and you're like holding on trying to drag him back right like I think about us
[06:09:27] like I was very a killer oriented player and Anton like will not stop you can't stop so you have to
[06:09:32] go with him or he's you know he's gonna feed alone so you gotta go fight and when you do that you
[06:09:36] win games like I think there are certain players that are very aggressive by nature and if killer
[06:09:40] mindsets they see the openings that see the terrifying robots and they it
[06:09:45] enables them to play faster than other teams because of specific players yeah
[06:09:49] I I really do like that pair of us and beat this laundry because now going into
[06:09:55] this game three it's like I don't think they're giving away house fire and I
[06:09:58] think they're comfortable to give away laundry now because this was just one
[06:10:02] strategy Quinn it was just one and they've got others like they beat
[06:10:06] actually with a different tape on that laundry. So do you think that Falcons will end up running
[06:10:12] back to the laundry if they're given it or they're just gonna take a step back from it?
[06:10:20] I think there's a decent chance that they run it back because I think Falcons is
[06:10:27] relatively stubborn about these things and I don't think they want to because the thing is
[06:10:30] if laundry is broken and now they won't play it like they've distracted some broken then they
[06:10:34] They don't pick it anymore. Okay, now there's no four horsemen anymore. Now there's no getting
[06:10:36] left. So they need that hero, or they need something to take its place. Maybe it's tiny
[06:10:41] or something instead, but they need the fourth horse. Because if you only have three horses,
[06:10:45] then they're all banned every game.
[06:10:46] You need all four of them.
[06:10:47] Yes, you need all four.
[06:10:48] Do you think we'll end up getting the first pick again, or do you think they want first
[06:10:52] pick again in this game three? Because both times, Harry and I were second pick. I'm thinking
[06:10:58] that second pick is looking better, this series in particular, especially if they're going
[06:11:02] to put Fockens in a position where they either take the Lundra or they end up giving it away,
[06:11:07] because I don't think they're going to ban it at all.
[06:11:10] Yeah, personally, I think they should switch. I think sometimes it's not even about which side
[06:11:15] you prefer, it's about which side the other two prefers, and you see they clearly like second
[06:11:18] pick, so it's like, well screw you, we're taking second pick, and I think that can have like high
[06:11:23] impact. I think sometimes you win the first game, and then you just say, ah, we'll swap sides, because
[06:11:27] I don't know, their prep was garbage on this side, so it seems like prep's garbage on the other side
[06:11:30] like I think I think there's something to that whereas thanks
[06:11:33] bagnet and letting the other team adapt can be you don't you don't agree with
[06:11:38] French robot I think the French robot is really impressive which doctor actually
[06:11:42] you like you like it which doctor you know what how about the vindication of
[06:11:46] which doctor huh my ti winning support analyst this is
[06:11:51] I was saying this here was fucked, but I didn't think he was pressing melodic, he was pressing heel, he was picking.
[06:11:57] I feel like it was the tiny call of show, if I'm being honest.
[06:12:00] Which Doctor was like, he was doing stuff, he was pressing his bells, I'm not gonna say his keyboard turned off, but like, was he a difference maker?
[06:12:07] Was he that oomph? You know, was he the pizzazz?
[06:12:10] I think there was some oomph there, I mean they were running at Which Doctor, he was pressing boot arresting, was tanking cells, popping some melodic.
[06:12:17] Just a little, a little bit of credit for which I could turn you a little bit smaller.
[06:12:22] A little bit of credit and a little bit of a break. We'll be back with you soon.
[06:12:47] Everybody's talking about the new channel
[06:12:52] Turn around, listen up, you're playing for peace
[06:12:56] You've got to breathe in and out
[06:12:59] Booping in the hometown
[06:13:01] Turning up the rock to beat, beat, beat, beat
[06:13:47] Out to break and let the crowd bump in in the hometown
[06:13:52] Turnin' back and watchin'
[06:13:54] Beep, beep, beep, beep
[06:14:17] One, two, three!
[06:14:47] I'm hanging on
[06:14:51] I'm hanging on
[06:14:56] Take your toes in the water
[06:14:58] We're out for the summer
[06:15:08] We've got an office phone
[06:15:11] Got a shoe on the door
[06:15:13] A crew box in the hall
[06:15:15] The best we've got to go on
[06:15:17] Let's take it hard to do when nothing's ever done
[06:15:28] Take your toes in the water, we are all summer
[06:15:36] Take your toes in the water, we are all summer
[06:16:10] I want you to bring through my head
[06:16:20] Take your toes in the water
[06:16:22] We got all the summer
[06:16:28] Take your toes in the water
[06:16:30] We got all the summer
[06:16:36] Take your toes in the water
[06:16:38] We have a song
[06:16:44] We have a song
[06:16:52] We have a song
[06:17:08] I've been waiting for a long time, just longing for a plan from you, yeah,
[06:17:37] A chance to look in those big brown eyes
[06:17:41] No telling what my heart could do
[06:17:45] When we met I sure knew
[06:17:50] It felt as good as it could be
[06:17:55] In that moment though it felt so good
[06:17:59] I wondered why you noticed me
[06:18:03] If you gave me just a little time, it would sure leave my remote mind
[06:18:12] Don't tell me, don't tell me that you don't feel the same inside
[06:18:20] Don't tell me, don't tell me these are feelings that I ought to hide
[06:18:29] I don't care where you came from, just tell me where you wanna go.
[06:18:45] Welcome back to some terrible news.
[06:18:50] I don't think that in the next game, I can finish the rest of the artwork.
[06:18:57] This has taken me...
[06:19:01] FIVE hours!
[06:19:02] Wait, that's crap.
[06:19:03] It's kind of like a skill interview.
[06:19:05] Can we get the top-down view of that?
[06:19:07] This is fast!
[06:19:09] I think it's impressive. This crap takes forever.
[06:19:12] Oh my god, that is actually this hard. I ended the journey a little bit.
[06:19:17] And I don't think...
[06:19:20] I admire tenacity, too.
[06:19:25] Thank you. This is definitely a hobby for someone.
[06:19:30] Someone with a lot of time on it. Maybe a retiree.
[06:19:33] A retiree would fit perfectly, but you also have to be really patient.
[06:19:38] And I think... I don't know how it was...
[06:19:42] I don't think either of these teams are really patient.
[06:19:45] Falcons, I think.
[06:19:47] I could say I genuinely could see Malrin sit at home with something like that.
[06:19:50] Okay, Malrin is the exception. Today he just seems to be absolutely there.
[06:19:54] Genuinely, yes. I think he's the kind of person that could sit with his wife or girlfriend and just like...
[06:19:59] I believe fiancé.
[06:20:01] Fiancé, yeah.
[06:20:02] I went for two out of the three.
[06:20:04] You're wrong both times.
[06:20:06] Yeah, double L's for me.
[06:20:08] Either way he could.
[06:20:10] The question is what's going to happen in game number three?
[06:20:13] Is he going to have a say about what he's playing?
[06:20:15] We saw well if we continue to let the heroes through we saw the laundry would not working for falcons
[06:20:20] But will they try again would they try again?
[06:20:22] I I think the longer it is most likely to be let through but I think probably falcons might just pick timber themselves and
[06:20:29] Play against laundry. I think that's like an option for them
[06:20:31] Yeah, I think the problem with them picking laundry it wasn't laundry it himself
[06:20:36] But it was how do we pick heroes around it that we like that make the hero make sense?
[06:20:40] And that's where it might crack for them so they might move away from the laundry
[06:20:44] Not because they don't want either to play longer it, but because they can't make this draft come together nicely I
[06:20:52] Really thought going into this game three that Falcons would try to take second pick away from Harry
[06:20:58] But they're just I feel like these things like these positions right like yeah
[06:21:03] I think if you like just picking your heroes first pick is generally easier to do it all
[06:21:07] There's less like if they do this we do that whereas for parry that's exactly what they want
[06:21:13] So I think for that reason probably it's probably easier for both sides to stay this way. I think they prefer it even
[06:21:21] The question here is longer it or lich or timber even
[06:21:25] Yeah, they're clearly thinking about it because Falcons is gonna change something right? I don't think they're running back to the exact same
[06:21:32] So it potentially nerfs your tiny, I suppose the enemy team can take Lich against it, which
[06:21:43] should be decent I guess.
[06:21:45] We're not actually talking about this, but I actually think it's really interesting
[06:21:49] because I think peak secret drafting, it was literally this.
[06:21:52] I think Poppy was like the master of duties.
[06:21:55] It's actually quite cool to see that he's a part of it.
[06:21:58] Lich overlaundered.
[06:21:59] Yeah.
[06:22:00] I mean, I feel like Paravision, they ban Linger from both sides quite a bit, so I think there's a little bit of Dave.
[06:22:08] Aha, you're in trouble now, like Dave called their bluff and said, okay, now you're the one who has to prove his, you're Linger at fake.
[06:22:13] Because if not, then it comes back to Falcons and you force them to ban it anyway, right?
[06:22:17] So I think it's kind of cool in that way because Paravision would play Lich, but I don't think they want Linger.
[06:22:22] So I like this. I think this is a smarter response to Pickleford.
[06:22:25] I think the tiny looked so far in this series. It looked quite strong
[06:22:30] also both these teams tend to have a bit of issues with catch and like
[06:22:34] Having stuns in their drafts the way they like to pick
[06:22:36] So I think this hero kind of covers that base very early on for them from a strategic standpoint and
[06:22:42] I think it's a hero like gives like from a draft perspective
[06:22:45] It gives you a lot of things if it's not if it's like strong in the game
[06:22:49] Is this where if you're Falcons you start looking towards an early?
[06:22:53] ATF here like timber or doom because you've got more of flexibility. I mean they're getting one right later
[06:23:00] Well not necessarily right right so the party can pick one. They might do the same thing they did last game
[06:23:05] That's the real predicament here is yeah, if you don't ban one like
[06:23:09] Paragra can always get one and Falcons can never get one right if Paragra don't want them to right because right now
[06:23:14] They can do the same thing before they ban doom pick timber or vice versa
[06:23:17] Timbers not as good because you don't see low injury right so timber is gonna get double counterpick
[06:23:21] to play against like Lish Luna or something which sounds scary.
[06:23:24] Yeah.
[06:23:25] Between Timber and Doom, which one do you think is more of a threat?
[06:23:29] I mean, both are good.
[06:23:33] Probably Timber.
[06:23:34] Yeah, Timber probably overall a better game.
[06:23:36] I also think Pahri is a lot more of a Timber team than a Doom team.
[06:23:40] There it is.
[06:23:43] What's interesting is also, this is the first time I've seen Caudal, Wisp and Nick spanned
[06:23:47] out against Pahri.
[06:23:48] So the question is, they're posing a question to my classic. What's your next thing?
[06:23:52] Do you have something that can define the game in the same way? Because most of the times when
[06:23:56] my class is playing like a regular four and doesn't have like the same defining presence,
[06:24:01] I feel like it really hurts part. They're not the same team. Not that you can't do it,
[06:24:05] but they're just not the same team. I agree. I think his rubik is excellent though,
[06:24:08] and rubik's been ignored both both games in this series. That's very likely that that could be the
[06:24:13] I agree with you, but I do also think there's an interesting thing with hipsters that I think I could Thompson where like
[06:24:21] He's obviously an amazing evoker player
[06:24:23] But if it was a really broken evoker patch, he will not play it because everybody's playing exactly
[06:24:28] That's not fun like at nine class at Birmingham was playing Rubik every game because no one was playing it yet
[06:24:32] But now that everyone plays it. I don't think he wants to play it anymore. Even if it's good and he's good at it
[06:24:37] I don't think he wants to play it
[06:24:38] But I think another part of being hipster is also that they are still used to being ahead of the curves,
[06:24:43] that they're playing matchups where they are comfortable and your opponents are not.
[06:24:47] And when a hero is ultra meta and everybody knows how to play against it, you lose that edge.
[06:24:51] And I think it's a quite big thing actually. It's like why when all of Falcon's heroes are broken,
[06:24:57] and they suddenly were doing poorly, because like it doesn't play out the same way.
[06:25:01] Clearly he still likes Rubik. He still likes it.
[06:25:04] Yeah. He did play it two times versus XD and it looks solid,
[06:25:08] But I don't think there's that big spell to steal yet, unless you can get a chain frost.
[06:25:14] The Luna spells are quite nice. They're quite easy casual skills and they're quite nice.
[06:25:18] Moon glares?
[06:25:19] Moon glares are gay. That's my favorite skill.
[06:25:21] But the way Nanklas plays this hero, or at least the way that he played it at Birmingham, was that he didn't care if he had good spells to steal.
[06:25:28] He found a way to have impact in the game regardless.
[06:25:31] with an early shard, with his Essence Distillair, he's basically the player that got this item into the support meta, like everyone was buying it now, because he did.
[06:25:41] I also have a question for production, did we get the Witch Doctor win, lost rate, stat up again?
[06:25:46] Probably 1-0.
[06:25:47] I think that's a fraudulent stat.
[06:25:49] He was picked!
[06:25:50] He definitely lost the Witch Doctor.
[06:25:52] No, I can pull it out for you, don't worry. We have the technology here.
[06:25:56] Definitely lost.
[06:25:57] And I just want to make that very clear to everybody at home.
[06:26:00] 100% win rate!
[06:26:01] Speaking, I'm gonna go play a pub right now and pick Witch Doctor because it's a good hero and if we can play it...
[06:26:06] I think you should, why not?
[06:26:07] What's stopping you?
[06:26:10] What's stopping you?
[06:26:11] Actually, nothing at all.
[06:26:12] There you go!
[06:26:13] Go lose for MMMR.
[06:26:15] Win MMMRs?
[06:26:16] Well, well, well.
[06:26:18] It seems like Witch Doctor...
[06:26:21] is one and zero.
[06:26:24] So what game did we see to call us to Witch Doctor?
[06:26:26] We definitely thought it probably was not picked up by the...
[06:26:29] It was a fake news or controlling our stuff.
[06:26:32] There was for sure a witch doctor game like a couple of days ago.
[06:26:34] I remember maybe it just didn't work out or maybe this website didn't
[06:26:38] calculate the last one.
[06:26:40] It was an L, wasn't it?
[06:26:41] Was it against liquid?
[06:26:43] I am investigating.
[06:26:45] Give me a moment, please.
[06:26:47] Anyway.
[06:26:48] Anyway.
[06:26:49] Excuse me.
[06:26:50] Got distracted there for a bit.
[06:26:51] Witch doctor only won.
[06:26:52] Oh shit.
[06:26:53] Game one, liquid Parisian.
[06:26:54] Parisian wins.
[06:26:55] I mean, this truly looks like a terrible witch doctor game. Let me tell you.
[06:26:59] If it doesn't work once, then it doesn't work twice.
[06:27:02] You gotta go for it again, right?
[06:27:04] Sure.
[06:27:05] This is how we eventually beat gaming God-Aiders, you know?
[06:27:07] We did not give up. You stand on your point, and you just hope to go out that it's right eventually.
[06:27:13] Niamh's aside, I think that on the side of the game, you're not going to be able to get out of it.
[06:27:19] just hope to go out that it's right eventually.
[06:27:21] Niamh's aside, I think that on the side of Falcons there's less burst damage to play against
[06:27:27] Witch Doctor than there was the last game, because that Voodoo Restoration was how we
[06:27:31] played early on, and it looks kind of clutched in the landing stage in particular when there
[06:27:36] were making trades. It feels like the only thing is doom basically for the Anti-Head.
[06:27:44] true but I do think Falcon's stuff I think are better like they're more
[06:27:50] natural on these heroes and that I think I don't know the last game was just
[06:27:53] weird like they're comfortable in sounds from ringmaster too but something
[06:27:56] about this energy of their heroes the fact that they're two stunning bros both
[06:27:58] had bad lanes the stuff aren't weren't enabled whereas this game I think which
[06:28:02] luna is a beast mode lane and so let's have a good start Doom is a hero that I
[06:28:07] think is much easier to play through because he's also a beast mode liner and
[06:28:10] so the falcons are set up for a situation where the heroes are more
[06:28:13] enable it and they're not on this picking time on my hope anyway where tiny is just
[06:28:16] stomping them in lane because I think that is the biggest problem last game is
[06:28:20] there's getting crushed by this tiny who's not doing so have they crafted
[06:28:22] something that works better at me that's that's the cross
[06:28:27] do you think that this glitched Luna are gonna shut down timbers for a hard
[06:28:32] temporal have an issue like entering this game after the late issue they should
[06:28:36] let's Luna figure very very sharp in numbers so unless they manage to like do
[06:28:42] It's weird to get the lane to not actually play out as the lane normally would.
[06:28:47] I think they're gonna have a really rough time.
[06:28:49] So I think if you look at the draft as it is right now, I think hoodwink,
[06:28:52] Doom against Tiny, which after I would say at worst is even.
[06:28:57] I would personally feel like it's slightly winning.
[06:28:59] I think Lich Luna against Timber Rubik is also winning.
[06:29:02] I would say that's more winning.
[06:29:03] So for Falcons you have a pretty good position, and from first take you tend to happen.
[06:29:08] It's not uncommon to be in this position.
[06:29:11] And for Apari, this last pick has to really screw over the mid laner.
[06:29:16] For Falcons, where they've just been on a pretty solid early game,
[06:29:18] you might not see a big gold lead, but it's going to be even enough, but everybody's going to have the game.
[06:29:22] And for Apari, I think they want ideally something like 2, where it's still walling a bit more,
[06:29:26] and they can cheese this mid hero and progress the game that way.
[06:29:30] What do you think about this monkey mid, Quinn?
[06:29:33] I think Malorin is probably the best monkey king in this tournament right now.
[06:29:37] I think he is playing it very well.
[06:29:38] He started doing this Deso first build and no one else is really doing it, so he started to copy it.
[06:29:42] That I think is very interesting.
[06:29:44] And he's also very very good at the landing. He matches the Primal Spring first, which is pretty cool.
[06:29:48] As you get involved in ganks, even if your lane is bad.
[06:29:51] And he's calling no one's bluff on the QWAP, which I think is very fun.
[06:29:55] I think that matchup is interesting and it's not as easy for QWAP as you would think.
[06:29:59] It can be very good, but there's a lot of skill that goes into the first waves because
[06:30:04] QWAP, you want to put points in the dagger, which means your nuke is weaker,
[06:30:07] which means you need to actually fight this monkey king for seos and he has damage on him
[06:30:10] but at the same time monkeys HP is sort of ticking down so it's a race where how many
[06:30:14] fias advantage can a monkey king get before cooperats you off the lane is like the theme of
[06:30:18] the lane so i'm curious if no one calls his bluff because i think no one's one of the few players
[06:30:22] that could actually go toe-to-toe with maureen in this specific matchup
[06:30:26] what would the alternative option to peanut pain be like?
[06:30:28] i thought i was thinking too i don't really see anything clear
[06:30:31] I don't know if you know.
[06:30:36] Um, I mean Sniper.
[06:30:38] Um...
[06:30:40] Okay.
[06:30:41] Very good.
[06:30:42] Zero percent win rate so far though.
[06:30:45] You were calling him a very cool hero earlier.
[06:30:48] He is, he is a cool hero.
[06:30:49] I played it a lot when I started this.
[06:30:51] Sniper is such a lame hero.
[06:30:52] I think it's pretty good.
[06:30:53] I think there's a lot of different item builds.
[06:30:54] So I'm super curious to see what he goes for.
[06:30:56] Um, I also am curious what skill build he goes for.
[06:30:59] I've seen something like top some is going traffic early some lanes and playing for farm other lanes going no points of traffic
[06:31:04] And going agro build the new e giving you like more base attack range is just way better for this hero
[06:31:10] And this is a great sniper game
[06:31:11] So I'm and I think no one is also one of the best active sniper players
[06:31:14] So I am I'm excited to see because I love this
[06:31:17] So how does the sniper tick even change the way that Harry are gonna approach this game?
[06:31:22] Is he gonna end up being more stable and just farming and then you need no
[06:31:27] I actually think Sniper is a very strong early game hero. You can make quite a lot of early game moves, and then you have a slow phase while you're building up your items again.
[06:31:40] But I think he's going to utilize that early game advantage that he gets. It's not going to be like an AFK farm, so you can push out the wave, go farm a few camps, forever type.
[06:31:47] Sniper.
[06:31:48] I definitely agree. I think, like I do think the best sniper was Thompson and when I think back to the patch, I think it was Birmingham before the last one, before the most recent one.
[06:32:01] He was playing that hero a lot and what he'd do is he'd push the wave and he'd just run through the side lane and assassinate you.
[06:32:06] And while he was acting like, if you had a lane that was trying to pressure like this Doom lane, then he's going to counter pressure by just leaning that direction.
[06:32:12] that direction. They'll de-ward your board and he'll just walk into fog after pushing away.
[06:32:15] But you don't know if he's farming into two camps, being efficient, or leaning on you with
[06:32:18] assassinate. And that can make the safe lane play more safe and relieve some of the pressure by
[06:32:21] not even being there. And there's nothing more exciting than watching a hero at 285 movement
[06:32:27] speed walk towards the lane and then walk back to his lane and doing nothing. That being said though,
[06:32:32] it sounds like we can make both teams sound good based on the way we're talking about the draft.
[06:32:37] And that is the first time in this series, very even.
[06:32:41] I'd say so. For Falcons, I think the key player here is ATF on his doom and what he can do for his team.
[06:32:47] Whereas for Harry, it's all about no one and his sleeper.
[06:32:51] So on one side we got the mid lane, very important.
[06:32:54] On the other side, ATF has to have a better game than previous game, which to be fair, should be easy.
[06:32:59] Because he didn't have a good game in game number two, so I'm sure he's fired up for this one.
[06:33:04] Let's see which one of these two teams will be guaranteed top three here at this dream league.
[06:33:09] We're heading over to Audi Pixelone Fog rather than Puck 10 Pandas.
[06:34:04] Time for the deciding game three here!
[06:34:13] Let us see how much between Falcons, Paravision and the...
[06:34:17] We get to the old witch doctor again coming in for Paravision 4 due to Carlos.
[06:34:22] And with further innovations towards the end of the draft, we're getting a sniper.
[06:34:25] He's caught.
[06:34:26] Left level one from nine class.
[06:34:28] Can they give it to no one?
[06:34:29] They sure will.
[06:34:30] Oh?
[06:34:31] Don't attack it.
[06:34:33] God I saw the animation. I mean it looked a little spooky because he was getting away with the very fire
[06:34:38] But I managed to secure it here for no one
[06:34:40] That's nice and he's gonna tip Maureen because now he's like ha you're it monkey king vs.
[06:34:45] Sniper with our first but it was already a tough matchup and now you're gonna have to play with that as well too
[06:34:50] What do you make for this overall?
[06:34:52] Yeah, obviously Falcons coming in with this monkey king one of Maureen's best
[06:34:55] Mm-hmm sniper though to finish off the sort of answer the para vision when I hit them with
[06:34:59] I think he was just looking for something
[06:35:01] that's a stable and comfortable that isn't going to just get absolutely
[06:35:03] decimated and can make rotations. The Slardar can get decimated and can
[06:35:07] struggle in rotations. This hero can catch up, right? Monkey King, even if he has a
[06:35:10] tough time, you can max tree dance, you can find places to farm, you can rotate
[06:35:14] and look for lane pressure. And I think overall what Falcons was looking was
[06:35:17] stronger lanes. Because that top, you know, the off-lane in particular in the last
[06:35:22] game was probably one of the worst I think I've ever seen them have. So this
[06:35:26] time, playing with the Doom, playing with the hoodwink, these are strong and
[06:35:28] stable heroes. Sure, well these two should do a lot better against the tiny
[06:35:32] witchdoctors. You know, it's still a lane that they have to be careful in like how
[06:35:36] they should do a lot better. You can't imagine state time making Ducal start
[06:35:40] getting early kills again. No, I think there's bushwhack as a design as a hero.
[06:35:43] You know, as I was mentioning, ringmaster is on. Bushwhack is a heat meat like stun in
[06:35:48] particular, just much easier to use to stop aggression. Ringmaster sometimes it
[06:35:53] could be either missed because everything's skill shots or you use it
[06:35:56] aggressively and it doesn't actually have a stun right to protect somebody, so...
[06:36:01] Just a better hero, right, in general.
[06:36:04] In the Doom, also just a way better hero than the Martyrs as well, too, so much safer to play.
[06:36:10] And great versus strength heroes in lane.
[06:36:13] Infernal Blade always will be very effective, DeKalus, he'll do the same thing he did last time to offset pressure,
[06:36:18] go for just Heal plus Malavik.
[06:36:26] I'm just trying to get him out of the ground, but I have to follow up on it.
[06:36:31] You're so much tankier on this, there's a lot of HP.
[06:36:35] Yeah, even more armor as well.
[06:36:37] So seeing the difference.
[06:36:38] Mid lane, so far in Malry, doing quite well in this matchup,
[06:36:41] and it is going to be the two points in Trapinal.
[06:36:43] From now on I know Quinn was wondering which build it was going to be.
[06:36:47] Because when I've seen Quinn play, he goes for the two headshot points most of the time,
[06:36:51] time let's take it so very important though for paravision that they did get
[06:36:59] this kill bottom this is a lane that absolutely cans snowball on the side
[06:37:03] for Falcons in terms of pressure versus timber the fact that they get a kill on
[06:37:06] the lich it's actually quite nice we'll set up notice perhaps for a better start
[06:37:10] than maybe Falcons wanted him to have with these double spam lane power versus
[06:37:18] of these double spam lanes too is you get, you know, if you get like your first bracer and then if
[06:37:22] you can get to the point of this raindrop, you can endure the lane. The raindrop ends up blocking
[06:37:25] every single one of the nukes. Okay, I noticed but typical to really completely go on him,
[06:37:32] he's almost, he keeps getting the space to farm, he'll be happy with the pressure. Yeah,
[06:37:37] he's doing very well down here. Keeping up to those 20 reactive stacks too, so he's got the regen
[06:37:40] built in. Lunar will free farm, but notice is getting something out of the lane.
[06:37:48] mid started to see it getting a bit more difficult here for Malvin at the moment
[06:37:53] but the waves are being forced into him constantly because of the shrapnel
[06:37:56] that is the thing right here when you go for the shrapnel route
[06:37:59] you'll still be able to pick up fun obviously once it's kind of
[06:38:02] i mean if you go level three on level five right
[06:38:06] you'll take level three shrapnel
[06:38:08] oh yeah yeah
[06:38:11] and then at that point then it should be enough to bully the monkey king outcome
[06:38:13] yes you can't really learn against the level three shrapnel
[06:38:17] And they could I think what could happen perhaps is I think Chris gonna look for a rotation early onto the mid lane
[06:38:22] Because if you can't catch even one stun onto those sniper, yeah, sure you potentially can just kill him
[06:38:28] bottom lane you know
[06:38:30] Looking for nine class is it enough he wants to dive in for the kill nice tree plan
[06:38:37] I won't be able to get
[06:38:39] Blocking that vision there with the tree plant nicely done there from nine class no loosen beam for you mr. Skeeter
[06:38:44] So still struggling. Well, notice he's actually decent HP, but still able to get something
[06:38:50] out of lane even though the Luna is free farming.
[06:38:54] And Nightclust with the salve is actually going to make the rotation himself around mid.
[06:38:58] There's a ward though. He's spotted.
[06:39:02] Yeah, it's now the point where he has to super catch the Monkey King.
[06:39:06] Level 3 trap knows there, ready for Noah.
[06:39:08] He's roaming. He has the 3 point tree dance.
[06:39:11] Notice now, left alone.
[06:39:13] See if they can get the kill, Toph.
[06:39:15] They get the setup on to Jokalus. He's having a time to get the Maladik Toph.
[06:39:18] Malrin.
[06:39:19] He's gonna go for the TP out.
[06:39:21] And he'll be fine.
[06:39:23] Heads up TP.
[06:39:24] Right away.
[06:39:25] Just like they were talking on panel, right?
[06:39:27] This sniper's gonna try to match the rotation, and he was so heads up.
[06:39:31] He's out of that.
[06:39:32] He even tips Jokalus now, cause he got tipped first.
[06:39:36] Really good play there. Coming in for Malrin.
[06:39:39] Instant identification also from Falcons that this Timbersaws left alone doesn't have the range drop just yet did get spammed and pushed up.
[06:39:49] Let's bring them around the med from Pyrovision.
[06:39:56] Malrin is just roaming, looking for the play bottom, noticed.
[06:39:59] I mean he's very killable with the three of them.
[06:40:04] Let's get up to the tree dogs. We'll be able to Timber Chain away though.
[06:40:09] Another beam. They really want this killed but stacking the disables there.
[06:40:15] They did a little bit, yeah. Not as clean as it could have been there from Falcons.
[06:40:19] Yeah, need to save them so you can not let him get the timber chain out, meaning to save either the sinister gaze or something to prevent it.
[06:40:25] Malrin rotating back toward mid but the amp damage is there for no one.
[06:40:29] Has a catapult wave too that they can use to push this tower.
[06:40:32] And here's the Glyph as well.
[06:40:36] Wanted to try to set up onto Malvane here, but he doesn't pull the wave of Agro back.
[06:40:44] Chris coming in from the side.
[06:40:45] To call us out here as well.
[06:40:48] You want another one?
[06:40:50] This sniper hasn't had damage.
[06:40:52] You don't want to walk up to him right now.
[06:40:54] Knight class?
[06:40:55] Does get the lift off!
[06:40:56] So we can do...
[06:40:58] Anything else to follow up with?
[06:41:00] Just pushing them away from the tower, allowing no one to slowly bring this tier 1 down.
[06:41:04] That was a nice lift.
[06:41:05] Before the tree dance damage, the Primal Spring damage comes in.
[06:41:08] Seeing him are having a much better time though this game.
[06:41:11] Not chain feeding by any means and actually applying pressure to Satanic. Satanic!
[06:41:16] Yeah, he's just getting chased out.
[06:41:18] He's about... he has stick and stun.
[06:41:20] He might just... is that enough damage?
[06:41:23] It's close!
[06:41:24] It's very close!
[06:41:25] He's dodging around the tower, backup comes in, but he's gone!
[06:41:29] Amar will die, but that's well worth it, killing the carry by himself is absolutely...
[06:41:33] Absolutely, he's just having to run him down and he just wasn't getting backup in time.
[06:41:37] That's a completely different game than we saw last time in that off-lane.
[06:41:42] All three of course, looking pretty solid for the side of Falcons.
[06:41:45] The sniper set up for success with about a 700 network difference. He does get the mid tower.
[06:41:51] I mean, he's having easier access to make rotations than we see this hard art.
[06:41:54] Yeah, he's all over the map. There's Monkey King.
[06:41:56] He doesn't need an item to be able to do so, right?
[06:41:58] Slardar needed Blink. This hero can make moves without it.
[06:42:04] Yeah, massively swung down Satanic.
[06:42:10] Snake should hit 6 very early as we do see on most of these liches every time because the way he sacrifice functions, even if you do die a couple times in lane.
[06:42:17] I'll have that chain frost very early and that's, I mean, incredible kill threat again versus the timbersaw in particular, but even potentially tiny if he shows in the lane.
[06:42:25] Let's see how much Titanic does show in these lanes now, though. Doom is at the ready.
[06:42:30] Yeah, sir.
[06:42:32] Don't get him.
[06:42:33] That's a follow kill.
[06:42:34] Yeah, that was just walking up, bumping the beams out, they get the kill, over in the mid.
[06:42:39] I'm in 9th class, Murray. Can he get out of this one?
[06:42:43] He's a tree.
[06:42:44] Places a tree so going for the fear out with the cost is that they'll find it just get pushed low ground from the
[06:42:51] From the GG branch. Yeah, that was actually pretty funny there. I had shot plus the GG branch pushes him down
[06:42:58] They find him
[06:43:03] All in all the numbers are close they are but the thing
[06:43:07] That really could start to separate the two teams right is if if marrying doesn't continue to kind of find success
[06:43:13] We'll pick off off to pick off with these rotations
[06:43:15] No one's farm is gonna start getting pretty far ahead of the monkey king for sure
[06:43:19] And the timbers talk can recover really well right cuz timbers numbers are pretty bad right now too
[06:43:23] But this girl just goes to ancients and completely requires members as we see which monkey king you can farm
[06:43:31] Yeah, not nearly as effective
[06:43:35] Definitely a little bit slower
[06:43:37] But Amar is having a very good performance here versus the tiny and so is the Luna at the moment but yet
[06:43:43] Now Rain doesn't want to fall too far behind here.
[06:43:46] Although Mark, he does play the carry from the off lane when he's playing this Doom 2.
[06:43:49] We do see that Radiant's queued up. They're gonna make the move.
[06:43:52] Couple stairs. Maladik's into the deathwater. Drop out of Doom.
[06:43:55] Doesn't have the one charge, but he took quite a lot of damage.
[06:43:58] Does he have- Is he gonna eat the tango as well? Is it gonna be enough? I think he's okay.
[06:44:01] He's gonna be alright. Yeah, the Maladik not quite high enough level.
[06:44:04] That is level 3, but yeah.
[06:44:06] Level 4 Maladik might have done it, but level 3 not enough.
[06:44:09] Take a kill off of that amount of damage.
[06:44:10] Maurym will be able to get back getting killed off two colors and at the same time
[06:44:14] snaking and skidding looking to see if they can take out notes with the two of them.
[06:44:18] I'm surprised they're gonna have them.
[06:44:20] I'm a bit surprised that Thota's shown down here again.
[06:44:22] They get him!
[06:44:23] That final right click for snaking doing it.
[06:44:24] No, we'll be able to turn up.
[06:44:26] It's gonna keep him alive.
[06:44:28] We'll be able to live.
[06:44:29] I'm surprised NoNos showed up again.
[06:44:30] I thought he was gonna go more towards the jungle because it's so much damage that comes
[06:44:33] out between these two.
[06:44:34] He's giving a fair bit to Snay and to Skidder.
[06:44:37] He has to be more careful.
[06:44:41] And Amariah was at 8-1 charge, he had the healing Lotus as well too, it was just enough
[06:44:45] to pump him up versus that level 3 Nolajic.
[06:44:47] He'll dodge the gank.
[06:44:49] And Mal'Rim to 500 difference at least between him and the off laner.
[06:44:55] Although he just fell behind he does, look like he's going to get another kill.
[06:44:58] Mal'Rim would have liked to get it, but either way, just wipe him out.
[06:45:07] They're going to quickly smoke too.
[06:45:10] I mean, Maureen just wants to go, go, go.
[06:45:12] He does not want to slow down.
[06:45:14] Anyone that wants to smoke up with them, he's ready to play.
[06:45:16] They did use Chain Frost.
[06:45:18] They are lacking damage between these two at the moment if they run into the tiny.
[06:45:23] The scam will come in.
[06:45:25] Doesn't connect.
[06:45:28] Let's see what they can do. Can these two take him out?
[06:45:31] Feels like they're limited on damage.
[06:45:33] I've been out back as well, 9 classes here by a side, so Maureen and Snanking won't be able to go for the kill.
[06:45:38] Now they've got to try and get out.
[06:45:39] Looks like Snanking might be the one sacrifice here left behind.
[06:45:44] Giving her no one.
[06:45:45] Look at the last hit.
[06:45:48] Matching the moves.
[06:45:49] Maybe just looking to go for some type of reaction play, right?
[06:45:51] Because it does feel like with these two heroes, killing the Tiny didn't feel possible.
[06:45:54] It's 1500 HP, they don't have Wul'Khan's, no chain frost.
[06:45:58] Doom wasn't close to the vicinity.
[06:45:59] Good response there from Paravision, keeping Noa in this very comfortable spot, 1500 above.
[06:46:07] Has the first item, okay so he's going to go Shadowblade.
[06:46:11] I know Clint was mentioning he was wondering which build it is going to be fully from Noa
[06:46:14] in this game.
[06:46:15] How much he wants to prioritize getting the shard since I do see a lot of his players
[06:46:18] get shard very early.
[06:46:20] Yeah, shard is, I mean it's super nice right again.
[06:46:24] Well honestly all three cores are just trying to run at you.
[06:46:27] I like this jump back.
[06:46:29] Shadowblade has its marriage too, right? Because if the monkey king does get on top, he doesn't have detection, you have ways to play around, distance yourself, reset fights, absolutely see the argument for it.
[06:46:38] That's Maureen.
[06:46:39] Time for a quick clean.
[06:46:40] It's a very tidy boy.
[06:46:43] Making the most of this pause.
[06:46:47] He's been doing a lot of vacuuming, though. I don't know how dirty the floor was.
[06:46:51] Apparently, he needs a lot of work, doesn't he?
[06:46:54] Probably the same clip.
[06:46:56] No, it's not.
[06:46:57] Yeah, actually he's like, he's like,
[06:46:58] Oh, and his farming patterns might be great in-game,
[06:47:00] but the vacuuming pattern, they're not the most efficient.
[06:47:03] Seems a bit chaotic, kind of all over the place.
[06:47:05] Might need a bit of work with that one.
[06:47:06] Here we go, back in the game.
[06:47:08] Noticed, has those stacks to go back to.
[06:47:09] He's gonna show on the lane for a moment to get a couple CS.
[06:47:15] Chain Frost back up in 15 seconds.
[06:47:17] Lots of stacks being made.
[06:47:18] Falcons continue to try to enable Cedar.
[06:47:24] Crit gonna go scout out the area as well,
[06:47:26] see what's going on with the timbersaw stacks is this so we see every single game
[06:47:35] oh they're setting a bit of a trap here so bringing the luna over looking potentially for the
[06:47:39] snycer pretty surprising angle as well i mean no one might not expect this oh my god he's gonna
[06:47:46] walk straight into the eclipse oh what a trap was that that was pretty sick actually
[06:47:51] So that's gonna slow down a ton of momentum sniper dying like this
[06:47:56] They might even be able to have access to you can they actually steal probably I said yes super nice. Yeah
[06:48:01] He was already having a very good game, and then he just gets a sort of setup and take down the mid
[06:48:07] Having the dream start for the Luna
[06:48:11] Quick refresh nothing you could do a great. I got a clicks guys. They were waiting for me
[06:48:18] Speaking of waiting for a target notice
[06:48:21] 4 heroes setting the trap, again at 9 classes, getting the one.
[06:48:26] Getting these sort of setups rather nicely back to back.
[06:48:29] So looks like they're trying to prevent the timber from going back to do those stacks in a way, right?
[06:48:33] That's where this timber has been able to recover in most of these games, so I'll just deny the act.
[06:48:36] They're coming in with a wrap around themselves now, Parvis.
[06:48:38] Alright.
[06:48:39] Bringing in the witchdoctor and the tiniest.
[06:48:41] Skeeter.
[06:48:42] Look at the avalanche setup there, Skeeter, maladicted.
[06:48:45] He'll get taken out, now they can turn to snaking.
[06:48:47] They might have been able to set up a few traps themselves earlier, but now Baravision, they turn up and give them a surprise back.
[06:48:55] Great move from Zotanic. That was with the smoke as well too, because Snaking had actually prepared for that.
[06:49:00] He put in Ops in a sentry for when they were doing this play on the gate, but a good read there from DeKalus.
[06:49:04] Paulus.
[06:49:11] The first turn up there from Satanic gets the biggest kill he could possibly could.
[06:49:15] Back up to top net worth for him.
[06:49:17] Echo Saber is finished up.
[06:49:21] And Melvin, spending a lot of time jumping around, only 50 CS so far.
[06:49:25] Yep.
[06:49:26] I should see, you know, sitting at the bottom of the cause net worth, I mean, it's just
[06:49:29] going to be the case right when you're playing this sort of style of Monkey King Med, you're
[06:49:33] so reliant on getting the kills.
[06:49:35] And when you're playing with a doom in the offlane, right?
[06:49:37] Who's Amar? Who's gonna farm?
[06:49:39] Quite a lot too, you're gonna be sacrificed.
[06:49:43] But that does mean Amar, the radiance timing,
[06:49:45] it should be pretty sound.
[06:49:46] He's gonna have the relic finished very soon here.
[06:49:51] The radiance over, although, right?
[06:49:52] The sniper is not gonna be threatened by this,
[06:49:54] so no one will, he's gonna,
[06:49:56] if he's able to keep his distance,
[06:49:57] should have some pretty good success.
[06:49:59] Not the easiest way to access to him.
[06:50:00] Tell these links or anything, come on,
[06:50:02] which will take some time.
[06:50:03] and getting past the tiny in the timber who are more than happy to be at the front of the fight
[06:50:07] will not always be easy so they do have a really nice draft setup for the sniper to pop off
[06:50:12] and noticed he was able to go back he finishes off those agents looking his
[06:50:15] net worth immediately right after him so kind of pulled it forward ahead of the monkey king
[06:50:21] still behind the doom but this doom has been giving a lot of space
[06:50:27] see where marwin can go next
[06:50:28] nine class trying to get a spell steal but he just dies for it
[06:50:32] Right away they got him.
[06:50:34] Sometimes it happens in Rubik.
[06:50:35] You really want to get a spell and they're baiting you.
[06:50:38] It's exactly what they were able to set up there with, correct?
[06:50:41] He has an essence distiller.
[06:50:43] So we'll be able to hunt into the back lines.
[06:50:51] Satanic.
[06:50:53] Also getting close to his shadow blade.
[06:50:55] They can have this double shadow blade to sneak in.
[06:50:56] Notice, again though.
[06:50:58] Yeah, that's funny.
[06:50:59] a lot of chances with snaking to get those kills down there. Anyone that shows.
[06:51:03] Not respecting the burst.
[06:51:06] Giving up quite a lot to this Luna.
[06:51:08] He is, especially because it's a great after he recovers to ready.
[06:51:10] He gets like a thousand that's worth.
[06:51:11] And then he goes and then they're like, oh, thank you.
[06:51:13] Some extra money for the Luna.
[06:51:16] Definitely doesn't want to be hemorrhaging kills like that.
[06:51:20] Game in a pretty even state, though.
[06:51:22] It is close to three map this year so far.
[06:51:24] So nice to see here between the two teams
[06:51:26] after having a couple of kind of one started affairs.
[06:51:29] Then Malarini, getting closer and closer toward that deso.
[06:51:32] Which is very good versus the two supports, they are super fragile.
[06:51:40] Two of the squished here ones in fact that I think you do see in most situations.
[06:51:46] Radiance done, hitting the timings, no one does have Shadowblade, he's gonna get involved now at the 16 minute mark.
[06:51:51] Got it.
[06:51:52] Had a bit of a slowdown, waiting for his item, but now double Shadowblades.
[06:51:56] in position to sort of catch them out here we'll get the acorn shot down
[06:52:00] won't get the chance ready to fall off though quickly dies but at least means
[06:52:05] that there's gonna be this time and space for Amar to get out didn't get the
[06:52:08] bush back on he casted it but didn't look like an ancient car to anybody there
[06:52:11] I was gonna say because the tree didn't get cut no I think he cut like I think he threw it on top of himself and just didn't
[06:52:14] just missed it yeah yeah Amar
[06:52:18] Maladix not that bored will do it that's quite a big kill as well he's
[06:52:23] One of quite a bit and over on the mid, they catch Mal'Reen as well!
[06:52:26] Now Shadowblade timing.
[06:52:29] Getting some massive kills too.
[06:52:31] Getting the big one on the doom and then slowing down Mal'Reen right before he's going to have that Desolator picked up.
[06:52:36] Very good strike there for paravision.
[06:52:42] I don't think Amar expected it in particular to get caught where he was.
[06:52:45] That could lead to difficulties, you know, the fact that even though the network is very
[06:52:52] close, obviously on Falcon's side, you do have kind of the inflated network from the
[06:52:57] Doom being a Doom, and as we're seeing at the moment with the Radiance, he has some
[06:53:01] timing, but he still dies very quickly, and then the fact that a lot of that network does
[06:53:05] sort of ride on the shoulders of the Lunar, as opposed to the Monkey King, who's still
[06:53:09] going to be very vulnerable. Now, Maureen, he shows up, it's very easy to kill.
[06:53:14] Yeah, he can die all the time for sure. So even though it's very close on the
[06:53:18] goal right now, it does feel a bit trickier for Falcons to survive free
[06:53:23] the plays. Yeah, I agree. And overall a little harder for them to make these like
[06:53:27] two-bang setups as we're seeing Paravision. The Maladik and the Tiny will
[06:53:30] kill anybody, even the Tiny just alone. And then these are ways to swing with the
[06:53:33] Shadowblade, a little more unexpected to be able to sneak around. Notice?
[06:53:38] going in. Looks like they were expecting another hero there, popping the dust early.
[06:53:45] Deso is done, but he is so squishy on this monkey king.
[06:53:56] Feels like Paravision have a good opening right now to be able to go through all these
[06:54:03] kills pre-BKBs until they start tanking up more, because they are very, very vulnerable
[06:54:07] to this Luna 1400 HP monkey king 1400 HP it's the doom who's tanky but that's about it
[06:54:19] let's just look to so far not those let's be collegiate before they get active themselves
[06:54:25] those power vision i think they'll be a bit more interested to look to make moves with kind of
[06:54:29] these sort of small groups of two or three of them silver edge also not finished for satanic
[06:54:34] in a second here if he wants to go pick it up.
[06:54:37] They're getting very good timing here, 20 minutes in on the carry Tiny.
[06:54:40] And the timber, anytime the downtime exists, hits those neutrals very effectively.
[06:54:51] Hanging onto all three tier ones still at this point, also on the side of Paravision, so they can safely play on their side.
[06:54:57] Yeah, they can get to anywhere on the map pretty easily right now.
[06:55:00] Except if you react anytime the Falcon show close to them.
[06:55:03] And we see no one he did by the shard is the second item so a nice defensive item after having this aggressive shadow blade
[06:55:11] We'll go all right. They want to try and do something with ski as a clips playing on the power room. Oh
[06:55:17] Well, that was an instant disconnect. It was so a PC crash or something
[06:55:22] Hopefully is alright. So look all's good
[06:55:25] Snae also did buy the Spire. So the kill threat around these areas, there's insane kill threat on anybody now.
[06:55:36] They can kill the Spire pretty easily, right? With the sniper.
[06:55:40] Yeah, yeah, of course.
[06:55:43] It usually just, you die, like the chain frost spire comes down and the spire disappears because of the way the chain frost bounces.
[06:55:49] But yes, absolutely.
[06:55:50] True, it kind of does what it needs to already.
[06:55:52] It's an insane amount of explosive burst damage on the side of Falcons for this setup here.
[06:55:57] Let's see if they are prepared. They are bringing that fourth hero.
[06:56:01] They're bringing a lot of prior vision, so this is definitely going to be a fight where they have the numbers.
[06:56:06] If they split the damage, right, Timbersaw has the same health as two of the heroes of Falcons.
[06:56:12] He has 2800. Can't split it up if the chain frost doesn't bounce perfectly.
[06:56:18] Let's see if they can get the connection.
[06:56:20] We got Maarin back in.
[06:56:22] Snail's also coming back.
[06:56:25] Let's see what sort of powering drops it.
[06:56:28] If it does drop it.
[06:56:29] And what type of connection?
[06:56:30] If it's like a three man bushwack into a three man,
[06:56:32] if it does connect like that, it could be pretty devastating for power vision.
[06:56:35] If they can distance themselves though, they absolutely can turn and get these big kills themselves.
[06:56:39] Just can't stack for the combo.
[06:56:41] Who knows if they know they're here.
[06:56:43] Might get caught off guard by it.
[06:56:47] Let's see.
[06:56:48] He's gonna fall on Paravision and just get it dying.
[06:57:01] And now he's about to make a move.
[06:57:03] Look at the Wukong's command now.
[06:57:05] See if he can have enough damage for notice.
[06:57:07] He does not notice, but he easily tip a chain out of this.
[06:57:10] Now drop the Duma mark.
[06:57:12] That will trick out the timber, but can he actually get back out of this?
[06:57:17] He's gonna try and see if he can bring down 9 class with him, and he will!
[06:57:21] Can he hide?
[06:57:22] He's trying to juke this one out.
[06:57:25] That's Titanic.
[06:57:26] Coming in clutch there, getting right on top of Skeeter.
[06:57:28] He pops this Luna almost instantly.
[06:57:30] We're seeing the HP pool difference, right?
[06:57:32] 3,000 HP Timber, 2,500 HP Tiny.
[06:57:35] They tank through the combos, and Skeeter, he does not.
[06:57:38] He dies literally instantly, as we're supposed to not talk to him.
[06:57:42] They were ready for them.
[06:57:43] They were. They came in with the numbers up.
[06:57:46] Pretty much the entire team there ready to react to any sort of play that Falcons were going to go for with that.
[06:57:52] Chain Frost?
[06:57:53] Amar does get the double.
[06:57:57] The Skeeter does not get much of anything with that. Turning up and just dying immediately after having that match is dialed.
[06:58:02] It's going to start to really set the difference here between him and Satanic. Satanic now a couple of minutes.
[06:58:07] Thousand gold ahead. We'll see you again.
[06:58:09] Just Satanic straight over towards the Looter.
[06:58:12] And the natural tankiness. Most of it connecting onto the timber, but then the following few bounces do split away.
[06:58:17] Yep, and they've got the heal to cause us with a bad essence ring ready to offset some of the damage coming in from the chain cross.
[06:58:22] They were ready to deal with that one. Great cooperation from them.
[06:58:25] And now they can lift the tool, Antip.
[06:58:29] Starting to give that gold lead here now.
[06:58:35] It's hard to see the monkey king really fall behind if I'll read it.
[06:58:38] A lot of difficult feasts for him.
[06:58:40] And their lineup just, it really does look just so fragile, whenever they walk up vs these tanky bruisers.
[06:58:46] It's usually not Falcons who has the squishy lineup, they're usually the ones with all those triple strength choruses.
[06:58:51] This is not what we usually see the most for here.
[06:58:55] Yeah, the only real means to save one another being with the Frost Shield right now.
[06:58:59] And it's not that effective vs Timber.
[06:59:02] It's just so much damage, and obviously the fact that there's a Witch Talks, you know, to Carlos,
[06:59:06] As long as he gets the Maladik down onto any of these, they will die in these fights.
[06:59:10] They're not surviving through that.
[06:59:12] Again, he's been able to get pretty good connection onto him, having these two tanky bruisers in front of him.
[06:59:19] Up to a 4k lead.
[06:59:23] It's just lots of kill threat, you know, anytime Falcon's hero shows on the map in comparison.
[06:59:29] Snaking, looking to set the trap.
[06:59:32] He's putting on the tree lines.
[06:59:34] Feels like he has the highest kill threat action on the side of Falcons first or something, obviously.
[06:59:38] Night class.
[06:59:42] Chance to get them telekinesis and steal us the...
[06:59:44] He didn't change right?
[06:59:45] He's away!
[06:59:47] He didn't? Fire? Or a chip?
[06:59:49] I know, he's dead.
[06:59:50] And again out of all those situations where I feel like we've seen a few times where snaking goes for the pull at the same time...
[06:59:55] That they start to look over the boundless?
[06:59:57] It's not smooth!
[06:59:59] Yeah, most of that could be.
[07:00:00] It's not smooth!
[07:00:01] It looks if he wanted to save chain frost potentially right and then he's like oh my god
[07:00:05] We're not get oh my god
[07:00:06] And now I used it and I didn't even throw it on spire and nine classes able to just disengage
[07:00:10] Getting messy here from Falcons. Yeah, our vision is taking advantage of it. They can't afford these slip-ups
[07:00:15] I mean and because of how reliant the monkey give me is I'm getting your kills head skater
[07:00:20] He's taught again. Yeah, he's just dead
[07:00:23] Boy if the first what kind of 20 minutes was kind of close
[07:00:26] But now they do get the doom see if the mark and kind of carrying them through these tough times
[07:00:31] It's gonna be a I'm gonna get the top hole because that's the night comes in though
[07:00:35] And no one gets to clean up against him now they look towards Maureen a Mars trying his best, but
[07:00:43] Is he gonna be enough because everything else is starting to crumble on falcons
[07:00:48] Paravision to clean it up and the monkey King keeps turning up and dying Maureen having difficulties
[07:00:53] It can go this way with the mid monkey King. It's it's a very high risk sort of move
[07:00:57] You have to dominate and he tried right early kind of signs of movement look great
[07:01:02] But as soon as you know what's going downhill. I mean look at these movement. It really goes downhill. I love my nervous playing so well
[07:01:09] Immediately gets a kill eight one and eight every single one of his connections has hit
[07:01:13] He's not really been caught off guard too much at all great macro plays coming up for paravision
[07:01:18] Yeah, we'll see on the replay again this
[07:01:20] That's fine. I'm not he did a lot. He got a lot of damage out
[07:01:24] Well, Evan is just completely kind of 100 to 0 satanic. They're chasing him out of the fight with the doom
[07:01:30] But Skeeter two times now he's showing up. Well, this one he didn't even show up
[07:01:34] This one he just got caught farming. He needs to get the BKB, but he's been slowed down massively
[07:01:40] None of them want to prepare our vision
[07:01:42] There's no new cruise here
[07:01:46] Skeeter he does have the BKB finish. Okay
[07:01:49] But there are a lot of disables also for there's an instant one of Rubik having the blink dagger in particular
[07:01:54] And this is over edge being a stuff so early on no one can just isolate them
[07:02:01] This big dusting to fit perfect so far here looking good
[07:02:05] Looking very good than no one's not first a classic
[07:02:09] Hasn't been doing great right? I think on the stats it had a few like a couple of games and then open losses
[07:02:16] No, I'm turning up and showing how it's done here in this game
[07:02:18] I love how you itemize really the shadow blade and then go back to the grenade just in case of things
[07:02:22] Now he's gonna go for BKB just in case of things too because there is a lot of magical burst damage if they do get on top of him
[07:02:28] If he gets BKB, even if let's say the Lich, cause he's going blank and this is the build we see a lot of times from Lich
[07:02:33] You'll get BKB and you'll just live
[07:02:41] Now Rain does have BKB finished so they are gonna have triple BKBs now for Falcons
[07:02:46] But they are quite far behind and still quite fragile. You know they're immune to a lot of this magic
[07:02:51] They can kill them right through it indeed
[07:02:59] They got satanic and early gem as well too so he can play very aggressive with this silver edge
[07:03:04] Not having to worry about walking on to it under a ward in particular and getting caught
[07:03:08] Okay Falcons, this is the triple BKB timing
[07:03:12] Have to get something big out of it
[07:03:16] Blink for snaking
[07:03:18] And it's at the same time that the BKB comes out from the sniper.
[07:03:26] Say, whoop, we'll be able to blink out.
[07:03:29] They can just go for the roast right with Sniper.
[07:03:32] They can start?
[07:03:33] Was it too risky?
[07:03:34] They have healing.
[07:03:35] Yep.
[07:03:37] Falcons.
[07:03:40] I don't even want to try and have a say about this.
[07:03:44] Good. Pretty severely pushed the game one way or another. Monkey King on the high ground.
[07:03:50] Trying to get some information. Looks like they sense that he's up there on this angle.
[07:03:54] Nope. Did they steal?
[07:03:56] Have a look. BKBs are coming out from post-eater and no tests. We'll see if the side Maori jumps in or get the workers.
[07:04:01] Come on up. They're killed up nine class. They'll buy back immediately.
[07:04:04] Ducales turns, gets the Maladik out onto a mark.
[07:04:06] That's Malrin's BKB.
[07:04:08] The Maladik and the assassinator. Maladik's going to end up falling pretty low.
[07:04:12] Great disengaged there from ParaVision. The buyback on 9 class was Titanic just pulling himself out of the Wukong's and he didn't use BKB on the tiny. He has it for the fight so there's no one.
[07:04:22] Maori?
[07:04:24] Sneaky.
[07:04:25] Back in the first room. Very quickly.
[07:04:27] Two-shot in fact.
[07:04:28] Yeah, this area of the map no longer. Somewhere the Falcons can try and push ParaVision away from. They've got to back off so ParaVision will get the Rosecat.
[07:04:37] Great identification for this teamfight really. The Wukongs comes out into an instant buyback from the Rubik.
[07:04:43] Disengaging beautifully. Instant TP towards top, expecting this move here. No one. Being incredibly active this game.
[07:04:49] 17 of the 22 kills are around this sniper right now. Won't be able to find Mal'Reen.
[07:04:56] I'm class he will find Craig yeah Chris very bad
[07:05:05] is he?
[07:05:10] actually no he's not you're right he's he's he's pretty gone under any house
[07:05:13] slippery the series right I think two trees got redirected
[07:05:16] oh Malarine! oh Malarine! it's been maledicted in the trees
[07:05:20] oh uh oh oh? Costco in his way as well
[07:05:23] oh yeah we did learn that there was a tree there the other day but he gets
[07:05:26] gone and he is catching it. He is indeed another catching to cause he'll throw that tip right back.
[07:05:30] He knows how rough of a game Maorins have him right now.
[07:05:34] He's going to rub the soul into the loons. There is a tree by the way behind that wall.
[07:05:38] We've learned that a couple times I've seen people get latched to that wall
[07:05:41] right there because there's that tree inside the pit. It's a pretty funny one.
[07:05:44] Can you see it? You can't see it. It's like an invisible tree.
[07:05:47] But it's there.
[07:05:51] Push commencing.
[07:05:52] And no one is going to Hydra's breath next,
[07:05:54] which I think Snagra is probably the best hero in the game to be able to go for this build,
[07:05:58] especially as he's had a pretty flawless game so far.
[07:06:01] Yeah, and because you have the sharp right,
[07:06:04] so you already have a way to kind of separate yourself from someone that's closing in on you.
[07:06:08] A little bit of mobility there, so you don't miss the Hurricane Pike too much as an upgrade.
[07:06:14] It is an insane amount of damage that you will be able to provide as the sniper.
[07:06:18] He continues to be top net worth.
[07:06:19] Him and Satanic have in this little contest to fuse at the same time.
[07:06:25] Amar's sheave is done.
[07:06:29] Him and Skater continue to have a pretty okay time,
[07:06:31] but if Yasus keeps saying right now what it is...
[07:06:33] Oh!
[07:06:33] Oh, and Nixxus!
[07:06:34] They're gonna find each other in the trees, man!
[07:06:35] Whoop!
[07:06:39] A lot of info.
[07:06:44] Here comes the sniper.
[07:06:46] Radiant's middle tower is under attack.
[07:06:49] The bar is on the low ground.
[07:06:52] Run up, Polk, and try to force the BKB.
[07:06:55] There's good damage here from no one.
[07:06:59] I mean, he has to put the BKB to survive this.
[07:07:02] They also dropped the Eclipse.
[07:07:04] They're trying to get back in with the BKB,
[07:07:05] looking to see if they can at least bring the Coloss down,
[07:07:07] who'll get the Witch Doctor.
[07:07:08] They got a run.
[07:07:09] Instead, when this BKB comes in,
[07:07:11] he's gonna get out of there.
[07:07:12] Mowry's trying to find Nightcloth, but the BKB and the Wukong's come out, but he's not gonna be able to kill him.
[07:07:18] Nightcloth's in perfectly fine. Mowry will die again.
[07:07:21] I know, and still honestly playing so well, immediately finds a target, forces aggression,
[07:07:25] the BKBs get popped in an incredibly defensive posture for Falcons, and he's not the right one.
[07:07:30] Skeeter's like, I can't get into these fights.
[07:07:33] Just getting peeped by the sniper.
[07:07:35] Yeah, they really are.
[07:07:37] And that is pretty much the Hydra Breath done. 400 gold till he does have it.
[07:07:39] When he has that, that dooms gonna die a hell of a lot faster as well.
[07:07:43] Nobody's gonna be able to run into the fight.
[07:07:45] It feels like they need these blinks, but I don't know how they even...
[07:07:48] I mean, it's so complicated to do so, right?
[07:07:50] I mean, you're at this deficit to just bypass the tiny, bypass the timber to get to the sniper,
[07:07:54] but they need it, right?
[07:07:55] I think a Ma in particular needs a blink to find the sniper.
[07:08:00] But he's not the only issue, right?
[07:08:01] Satanic continues to be absolutely massive in this game.
[07:08:09] Double catapults, still in ages for 80 seconds.
[07:08:27] Crit will go for the blink, so having to find any type of access to get to these backlines,
[07:08:32] but Amar, him not having it yet.
[07:08:34] It's the two supports actually with the blink daggers on Falcons.
[07:08:38] Oh, and they go for a play.
[07:08:40] The thingy in the air just quickly out of no one.
[07:08:42] He's able to jump back with this yard.
[07:08:44] He will fall the one, but at the same time, he's got the telekinesis on towards the doom.
[07:08:47] Am I? Look at the PKB opening. He took so much damage.
[07:08:50] Who try and run. They do get the doom down onto Satanic.
[07:08:53] So Satanic will die, but no one, he's ready to turn.
[07:08:56] He's got a safe distance here.
[07:08:58] He's able to poke at the warp by one.
[07:09:00] Assassinate comes in onto speeder.
[07:09:02] Now he looks over towards the monkey king.
[07:09:04] He's gonna get shot down as well.
[07:09:06] for no one might even be at a triple here not done yet great he's gonna try and
[07:09:09] jump in with a push bar for the BKB comes out immediately from no one three
[07:09:13] dead on Falcons they do not have buyback to the pressure from Paravision
[07:09:17] it's gonna continue to come in only losing state panic that now with the
[07:09:22] dieback Falcons trying to do some tricky little play they're force-tapping him
[07:09:25] into the base getting him caught but he just dances ground tiny ends of dying
[07:09:30] but it's the sniper of this cleaning up absolutely everything here yeah this
[07:09:34] to this sniper. I mean, I've used it for sure. He played super well this game so far here.
[07:09:38] Maureen just didn't really get to have a game. He tried to find something out of the map with
[07:09:43] those movements, but now at the point of the game where no one's got double the network of Maureen.
[07:09:49] Might even just finish off Crit here with the snipe. Bam!
[07:09:55] Beautiful individual plays coming out from no one. And always fun to see,
[07:09:59] You know in a hero that we just don't get to see that much.
[07:10:02] And a pretty insane type of recovery.
[07:10:04] You could say two for the game spirit, because the first game race, that profit, dies quite a bit now.
[07:10:08] He's earned around 12.12, so a pretty awesome recovery for him.
[07:10:13] They really managed to kind of turn and really just kind of crush the spirit of Maureen in particular.
[07:10:18] He's got to have some fun on his Huskarring game one,
[07:10:22] but ever since that they have absolutely had his number in particular in this game three.
[07:10:29] Nice chain frost bounces, right? Absolutely everything, connecting onto statistics there, but that just allows the sniper to reign free and speeder.
[07:10:36] He can't do anything. Not runs in with masqueradness as well too, so it takes an increased amount of damage to just get...
[07:10:42] ...cured in. I mean, because for the longest...
[07:10:45] ...times as well, it was also just another one of those match-ups, right? Luna vs. Sniper, you'd hate to be the Luna.
[07:10:50] Oh, yeah. Until you get to, like I said, the late-ling of these crazy type-items, which is just not natural build-ups, of course.
[07:10:57] You're just going to get peeped by the sniper every single time nearly level 25 in R1.
[07:11:02] Probably best sniper performance I've seen in quite some time, you do have to say.
[07:11:09] Oh, 9 class. He has blink, he has axe and he has finisher gaze.
[07:11:12] He actually can blink like black hole them, potentially here.
[07:11:18] Oh!
[07:11:19] What?
[07:11:20] He's gone for the axe! Here we go!
[07:11:21] Okay, this is one of the games we can do it.
[07:11:23] Let's go, let's go. We're going to see some agonim witch doctor action.
[07:11:26] everybody's happy about that. Maybe. He does need a couple more thousand gold.
[07:11:30] Funnily speaking, they caught him! That's a big one!
[07:11:33] I mean, a ma! If anyone's gonna turn this game around, it would be a ma.
[07:11:39] You know, through all sort of the struggles they've had so far, it has only really been a ma
[07:11:43] that's making sure they find something each and every time with the dunes.
[07:11:48] And that's the blik reveal, right? So as soon as he gets it, they are at least able to find
[07:11:52] this sniper, slow down the progression.
[07:11:54] And maybe a mark can carry them.
[07:11:58] Killed up the overwhelming blink, in fact.
[07:12:00] Also, okay.
[07:12:05] One, two, one, two.
[07:12:06] Killed, does it turn into anything else?
[07:12:08] Looks like they should at least be able to get some shrine.
[07:12:12] Okay, they'll get their shrine.
[07:12:16] A big kill?
[07:12:17] As you said, it's not just a sniper carry.
[07:12:19] It's also this tiny carry that they have to worry about.
[07:12:21] Yeah, I mean this is the thing right at the moment a mark kind of guaranteed bring down one one target
[07:12:26] That's what it's like. I don't know how they can't the three cores really are the problem
[07:12:30] They can kill one. Yeah, as we've seen in almost every single one of the fights within the other two can't just probably clean up
[07:12:37] Skeeter does have the butterfly
[07:12:40] So his damage has ramped up pretty massively up in these upcoming plays, but he is still quite squishy. Yes, it's a panic difficult to approach
[07:12:47] the sniper really relies on the rest of the team to get that setup so he can close in.
[07:12:54] Sniper will go for Lincoln, so we'll have protection versus the Doom potentially.
[07:13:03] That's a cool pick up too from Sintanik.
[07:13:05] Not something you see always on these carry tinies, but going for a blink dagger himself
[07:13:08] so that he can jump in and probably soak damage and pressure and be able to protect the sniper
[07:13:13] Or Blink can protect him if he sees opportunities.
[07:13:19] He's very farmed on this tiny.
[07:13:21] Full AC as well.
[07:13:24] Roche?
[07:13:25] Two minutes.
[07:13:26] Bit of a longer spawn.
[07:13:35] And Amar does look like he's gonna spend out,
[07:13:37] so that overwhelming Blink is purchased.
[07:13:39] I'm not, yeah, he needs to spend out.
[07:13:40] I think they do, yeah.
[07:13:42] If anything's gonna turn this game around, it's gonna be a mar in these teamfights as this doom
[07:13:47] Just causing complete chaos blinking into the back lines killing no one splitting the fight up killing the supports
[07:13:52] Who it's a lot of damage
[07:13:53] He is gonna do if he does connect onto these squishier backliners
[07:13:58] That's an if though if he can actually bypass
[07:14:03] Roach the one minute 15 seconds
[07:14:05] Malvrain, does he have the shadow? He hasn't gone to any progression.
[07:14:12] Almost a shadow blade, but he wants to potentially save gold.
[07:14:17] I'll definitely want to come over and fight this.
[07:14:37] If you're not one of that power vision, get this for free and have to deal with the fact
[07:14:43] of trying to defend the high ground against an Aegis. The smoke's there now.
[07:14:47] Have to find a very perfect angle on the- I don't know if they saw this Lincoln's
[07:14:51] pick up just yet from the sniper.
[07:14:55] You're killing multiple Lincoln's by the way.
[07:14:58] Who's gonna see me first? Am I? He's in.
[07:15:00] Notice, he's gonna try to jump forward. Get the Doom down onto notice. It's a little bit awkward.
[07:15:05] No one. Try and chase them out. No one scans his ground and now Mario and Skid are on top of Noah.
[07:15:10] No one's he's isolated. They're chasing down the amount. That's no one gone a marvel fall
[07:15:16] The trade for a trade Rubik killing the glaives always looks funny looted orbit
[07:15:22] trade for trade
[07:15:24] The doom target is the one that survives that no one went to help his body and gets punished for it
[07:15:31] And can either decides to try and capitalize on the 4v4 situation now our vision is gonna go back in a lot
[07:15:37] Was used from the side of Falcons there pretty much everything
[07:15:40] Rosh might just be the call for them here.
[07:15:44] Sotanic is trying to find an extra grab first since those cooldowns were used for Falcons.
[07:15:50] There's the agonist for you, Owen.
[07:15:53] There we go.
[07:15:54] We get to see it.
[07:15:55] We get to witness it.
[07:15:56] Yeah, and if they lose, we get the flamin'.
[07:15:58] He did his support.
[07:16:00] He's got the force.
[07:16:01] He's got the solid pressure.
[07:16:02] He's even got a dust.
[07:16:03] He's even got a dust.
[07:16:04] There's arguments where Lotus is fantastic this game, though, but whatever.
[07:16:07] There's arguments where Lotus is fantastic this game though, but whatever, you know.
[07:16:11] There are some pretty good items that he could pick up for his allies.
[07:16:14] Yeah, but when that happens...
[07:16:15] He kills everybody.
[07:16:16] And he says he gets him a rampage.
[07:16:18] You'll see.
[07:16:20] Falcons?
[07:16:21] How would these BKBs look in 20 seconds for Skeeter?
[07:16:27] 20 seconds still for Omar.
[07:16:29] Wallstakes, and he's gonna be in with a jump first though!
[07:16:31] Straight away, having a grip, that's the whole thing gone.
[07:16:33] It's Skeeter.
[07:16:34] He's on top of them.
[07:16:35] He's got BKB back in 10 seconds, still on cooldown for a little bit.
[07:16:38] Wukosh command's been dropped down by Maureen in the pit.
[07:16:40] Oh, he's getting it with F-Warding.
[07:16:42] He's getting out the fight and a decent F-Ward's down.
[07:16:44] They'll kill Maureen off in the pit.
[07:16:47] Plus 4 for Static, got 4-star the BKB.
[07:16:50] From Skeeter, he'll be able to BKB TP out, but snaking of course will not be quite as fortunate
[07:16:55] as they'll be able to kill him off and get that gem.
[07:16:58] Jumping them right outside, Crit unable to get a spell off the Aegis.
[07:17:01] It's fully-stired the pit.
[07:17:02] Ah, never mind, they didn't get the gem.
[07:17:03] So you actually have to recover it with the current.
[07:17:05] Yeah, there are two cores, right?
[07:17:07] Never have the one that makes space for that, so.
[07:17:09] Gem will at least be saved.
[07:17:10] And we still have the current?
[07:17:11] I mean, the supports being this strong, this early, they actually just kill Malrem inside of his Wul'Khons.
[07:17:17] Just with the two of them.
[07:17:20] Straight on with the push.
[07:17:24] 40 seconds until Malrem's back in.
[07:17:26] And Ma has them ready.
[07:17:28] They're gonna go for it.
[07:17:30] Open the gates!
[07:17:31] They're gonna throw them on!
[07:17:31] Exit!
[07:17:32] In the trees!
[07:17:32] They go straight over to Walsh, he will get the BK, be off, but he's taking so much damage.
[07:17:37] He'll try and run back to the fountain, he will make it back to the fountain in time, but Steeler is gone.
[07:17:41] No buyback on him, the Doom will at least bring down the tide, he was satanic.
[07:17:46] He'll come in with the buyback, he knows that the buyback's unlikely to be there for Falcons.
[07:17:51] So quick from ParaVision this game, instant jumps when they see a target.
[07:17:54] Straight on top of it.
[07:17:55] Oh and they die.
[07:17:56] I'll tap out, GG is called ParaVision, taking the win here today.
[07:18:01] What a turnaround of a series after what went down in Game 1.
[07:18:04] They really got their revenge here in Game 2, and even more so in Game 3, they broke them.
[07:18:10] Yeah, especially no one, right? The redemption arc after getting it.
[07:18:13] I mean, having one of the worst possible starts was a death profit.
[07:18:15] And so making the game look okay, it's on the DP, they ended up losing anyway because of it.
[07:18:19] But now these next two games, since Viper, was clean and concise, and this night, performance for me, the MVP.
[07:18:25] Yeah, 12, 3, and 14, excellent stuff, and just massive kill involvement.
[07:18:29] the highest on the team.
[07:18:31] 26 kills out of the 36 he was in.
[07:18:35] Look at his damage done to in this game, right?
[07:18:37] Almost 40,000 really setting the tempo,
[07:18:39] dictating the pace of this game,
[07:18:41] shutting down so much of Falcons.
[07:18:43] Falcons was getting a good amount of kills,
[07:18:44] especially in these side lanes,
[07:18:45] but this sniper was just way too much for them
[07:18:48] to handle with these other two takey cores.
[07:18:50] Yeah, good recovery for Bree from NoticeRide.
[07:18:52] Didn't have an easy stand on the lane,
[07:18:53] but he also just became this incredibly tanky piece.
[07:18:55] He actually ended up being the highest at worth.
[07:18:58] on that timber saw and he did his job right damage received by the timber 62
[07:19:02] thousand sniper only 28 tiny 38 so great job for that one as well and the
[07:19:07] carless he got to play some agonies at the end of the day
[07:19:11] he's gonna he's gonna the next time he's rushing though i'm i'll tell you that
[07:19:14] uh well there we go paravision let's hit the series two to one here against
[07:19:17] falcons hundred percent win rate we start to right there
[07:19:21] look at him go now that was uh that was a good ending for for paravision this
[07:19:25] So seriously, they realized they should burn up the Huskar, they project the Lone Druid successfully,
[07:19:32] and they win a game where nobody plays Lone Druid or Huskar, they let the lichter, of course, and they do it, I think.
[07:19:40] They did, and that's what you gotta do, you can't just be afraid of heroes, you have to let them through and show your ideas.
[07:19:47] And even in the game they lost versus Huskar, in a way they looked like the better team because they were able to turn it around at some point and make something out of nothing.
[07:19:56] But when the drafts weren't even, it looked a little bit like they were stuck ahead.
[07:20:02] Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people watching this game might be thinking to themselves, like, holy moly, this sniper really carried the game.
[07:20:08] But the true hero of this game...
[07:20:09] Which doctor?
[07:20:10] Was witch doctor.
[07:20:11] Oh, wait.
[07:20:12] I'm going to admit, I was wrong.
[07:20:16] goes wrong, witch doctor cooks, not only in lower brackets, and turns out that all the
[07:20:22] people in Twitch chat that play witch doctor all the time, know better than us pros. They
[07:20:26] were right and we were wrong.
[07:20:27] The college is a pro.
[07:20:28] They know better than you pros.
[07:20:30] I didn't disparage witch doctor.
[07:20:32] Okay, the you, you pro.
[07:20:34] Bring Quinn into this, please. Don't leave me alone on this couch.
[07:20:37] Let's couch for a reason.
[07:20:38] Okay, okay.
[07:20:39] It's for our ideas of witch doctor. That's the separation here.
[07:20:42] That is what these pillows represent.
[07:20:43] That's exactly, different from Jesus.
[07:20:45] No, I think it was very impressive.
[07:20:49] And I think this is a really big blow for Falcons.
[07:20:52] Not only they lost my lower bracket,
[07:20:53] but now people know, hey, Longerwood's fake.
[07:20:55] Maybe Litch is fake.
[07:20:56] Don't try the Hosscar.
[07:20:57] Leave that alone.
[07:20:58] Depending on that.
[07:20:59] But the fact that now there's an avenue
[07:21:01] for the future teams, that they've done the hard work,
[07:21:03] they've chipped away at the horsemen,
[07:21:04] and hey, this horse is loose.
[07:21:05] And they pushed it out of the briefcase
[07:21:07] and now there's an opening, a chasm,
[07:21:09] that now can be explored.
[07:21:10] I think that's worrying for Falcons' future series.
[07:21:13] I understand that. I don't necessarily think they're lunder or this fake.
[07:21:17] I think that they just never got a point to really show it.
[07:21:21] I think maybe their ideas around drafting around it could be what other teams could exploit,
[07:21:26] but this did feel like something specific to Paravision in the way that they played against Falcons.
[07:21:31] I don't... maybe I'm over praising them, but I think a lot of other teams will struggle against them,
[07:21:38] not because of the drafting, but just because of macro plays and how they've been approaching their games this tournament.
[07:21:43] When you guys were talking as well, they ended that game very early, and as you said, there's not a lot of teams that are comfortable ending that early, or at least trying to reach higher ground, because that's where people fail, that's where people make comebacks.
[07:21:56] That's alright, because I interrupted you most of the time.
[07:21:58] No, it's okay.
[07:22:01] I actually forgot what I was gonna say.
[07:22:02] Oh no.
[07:22:03] I don't know what the Falcons like made the show.
[07:22:04] Yeah, I was gonna agree with you. I think that's a big thing, right? It's not just that they cracked the draft, they also know how to play against it.
[07:22:11] it and that that is party specific. I think you can't just like look at this and be like oh yeah
[07:22:16] London their London is terrible. It's not full fake but it shows that you can beat it if you have
[07:22:21] the right setup you have the right surrounding heroes it is beatable and usually this is like a
[07:22:25] big thing for tournaments where like a specific hero is banned the entire way through and you just
[07:22:29] assume this series is going to be banned every single series but for Falcons now it's a consideration
[07:22:33] they have to make moving forward and I think they have to at least consider like is a tiny as tiny a
[07:22:37] problems as a hero that we need to after priority on and stuff and it kind of shifts how you think
[07:22:42] about things and I think that is a big thing and their confidence will be a little bit shook
[07:22:47] going into the lore bracket. And you know what shook it more than clone druid or anything else?
[07:22:53] The witch doctor shook him! The colors! Congratulations on the series, making it top three
[07:23:00] and on reintroducing Witch Doctor to everybody at home. Are you enjoying the hero?
[07:23:08] Yeah I played like first of all thank you for like saying that we won. Yeah finally we're in
[07:23:15] top three. We're not losing like noobs and yeah basically I played a lot on this hero I think
[07:23:22] like two three months ago and I was feeling like it's strong but then like it was Warlock,
[07:23:27] and all the stuff, but now they're out of the pool and yeah this hero looks great.
[07:23:32] Do you think other people, other pro teams should start playing it as well or you kind of still feel, considering you've played it so much,
[07:23:39] hero specialist if you will on the Witch Doctor, do you think other people can copy your result or you feel like a little bit step ahead now?
[07:23:47] I think anyone can try this hero, it's just basically, you know, Warlock was having books last patch and it was giving it's pay, but this hero is giving gold from his inner ability, so it doesn't matter if you die, you will have a good game, good items.
[07:24:03] I mean, I don't know, maybe people can play, it's just hard to tell about this question, yeah, they can try.
[07:24:09] Sounds like I should play it if I can die as much as I want, that sounds very attractive.
[07:24:14] I want to ask about game one really quickly.
[07:24:17] You guys attempted to let the Husker through, obviously it didn't work out the way you guys wanted.
[07:24:22] But I was very curious because the game was very one-sided
[07:24:26] and I was hoping you could talk to us about how you dealt with that as a team
[07:24:30] or was it just a matter of you guys?
[07:24:32] Husker banned? Go next.
[07:24:35] I mean, after first game we talked a bit and yeah, like we decided to ban it
[07:24:40] but in my head when we was rafting I was thinking like, okay, we pick Viper
[07:24:44] Like, it doesn't matter who plays satanic or no one, he will just run after Fuskar.
[07:24:48] So basically, if Fuskar goes mid, any player goes Viper mid.
[07:24:52] It doesn't matter satanic or no one, just go and follow him.
[07:24:57] It's like, and we should be picking 24 carry.
[07:25:00] And yeah, but basically we just didn't do that and Fuskar was staying against DP.
[07:25:05] And of course, like Malin is the best Fuskar after Amar, so basically he stayed this lane well.
[07:25:11] and like yeah, you just have much of a wiping, but yeah.
[07:25:14] I think if we just go Viper after Huskar,
[07:25:17] game is over, kind of.
[07:25:19] Yeah, fair enough.
[07:25:20] Didn't play out that way indeed this time
[07:25:21] with the death forward on the last pick there,
[07:25:23] but you know, you learn, still come out on top,
[07:25:27] top three guaranteed, you already mentioned it.
[07:25:29] You're selling yourself short
[07:25:31] because you have been consistently top six, I'd say,
[07:25:35] maybe outliers here or there,
[07:25:37] but top six very consistently throughout the year.
[07:25:39] You've not gotten first yet,
[07:25:41] which obviously you did do last year.
[07:25:43] And I was hoping you could tell us
[07:25:46] how you feel like you are in your power level
[07:25:50] where 100% is you win Lance,
[07:25:53] and how are you right now?
[07:25:56] It's hard to say, because we just changed the player
[07:26:00] in a way, like we have a standing.
[07:26:02] And in my opinion, it's just about our individual form,
[07:26:08] our hero pool because like last tournament we were always lacking we are playing for top 3
[07:26:14] to go upper bracket finals and we're always losing like 2-1 a lot of games because we are not
[07:26:19] confident in some ideas and all the stuff but on this tournament we are not lacking of this and
[07:26:23] we are finishing the series well because like okay we lost the first map today against Falcons
[07:26:28] we won second map without any chance and we went to third map and it's like even game and we don't
[07:26:32] throw it like we don't do stupid moves we don't stress and like yeah because our team there was
[07:26:37] I was having bad game bottom, but he handled to go through the game.
[07:26:42] Very much so, it was a very very solid game for you guys.
[07:26:44] I also have Queen who would love to ask you a question.
[07:26:47] Yeah.
[07:26:47] Hello, D'Galus, how's it going?
[07:26:48] Your best friend!
[07:26:49] That's right, my buddy's now.
[07:26:50] Yeah, my best friend.
[07:26:51] That's right, that's right.
[07:26:52] How you going, man?
[07:26:53] So I was curious, like, y'all had, I mean, obviously last year y'all were owning.
[07:26:57] And then throughout the majority this year, I think it was a little shaky.
[07:27:00] Even once you had gotten SSS, it was kind of rough for the first, like, solid chunk there.
[07:27:04] And then when the patch hit at Birmingham, y'all went from being kind of doing pretty
[07:27:07] poorly for the rest of the year too, suddenly owning and you've been owning since,
[07:27:11] do you think it was just a patch thing or like what's switched?
[07:27:13] Because I've never seen a team go from doing poorly to doing super well that quickly before.
[07:27:19] I think the main reason behind it, it's like me and 9-class was playing poorly in my opinion,
[07:27:24] like I'm not sure like how 9-class will say about it, but like myself, I was for sure playing poorly
[07:27:29] and it was like Warlock, Jakira in here pool only and I was not playing them well
[07:27:35] And I think it's important if you are playing well, you will win some tournaments or be high, top 3 or top 4.
[07:27:43] But we were playing poorly because of it.
[07:27:46] And when Patch came out, basically, this hero was out of the pool, they are not the teambuy,
[07:27:51] and we have fresh air, basically.
[07:27:55] And like 9-class player Ubi Kayao, because he was practicing them on Papi on last patch,
[07:27:59] he was playing Kayao for the last half of the year, and basically now he can play.
[07:28:04] Okay, yeah, it makes total sense. It's crazy how much the patch influences things sometimes and how much heroes do
[07:28:10] Thank you very much to cause one more question before we let you go. We got spirit and Aurora next
[07:28:16] Could you shine some light about what we could expect?
[07:28:19] It's actually hard to say because spirit start playing better and Aurora I think
[07:28:25] DnF has really got a good opponent this tournament yet
[07:28:28] But I think it's like super even matchup
[07:28:31] But I think Spirit will go through because they change the player, they're trying their best and all the stuff.
[07:28:38] And also Avrora, not all the bootcamps, so basically it's a bit worse for them than Spirit.
[07:28:44] That's fair, bootcamp makes a difference, makes a difference for you guys.
[07:28:46] You guys look very solid, congratulations again on top three and we'll see you in that upper bracket finals.
[07:28:52] Yeah, thank you, bye.
[07:28:54] Thank you.
[07:28:55] We can take a look at the brackets as well as we do have indeed one of the upper bracket semifinals.
[07:29:01] And I think a lot of people, Quinn, we're expecting Falcons to come out ahead.
[07:29:09] Yeah, surely that wasn't directed at me, which is not my trade.
[07:29:13] That's totally fair. No, I was. And I think Paravision did crack them, right?
[07:29:18] I do think it was the unsupply force versus the immovable object, and Paravision took them and just casually picked them up and moved them aside.
[07:29:25] And I think it was very impressive.
[07:29:27] I think Paravision is the most aggressive team right now,
[07:29:31] who are the fastest team.
[07:29:32] And I think that the team that we talked about before,
[07:29:35] they can snowball games, they can win very quickly.
[07:29:37] I think it's very impressive.
[07:29:38] And I like this style of play.
[07:29:39] And I actually agree with what you call said.
[07:29:41] I think supports, when they're playing really well
[07:29:43] in the current era of Dota, I think
[07:29:44] it matters a lot for the early game,
[07:29:46] and how fast the game is, how much momentum there is.
[07:29:48] And I like that it takes responsibility there.
[07:29:50] And I really respect their support players
[07:29:53] and how good they are.
[07:29:54] because I think they are a huge reason why this team is so good.
[07:29:56] People talk about Satanic and no one has a super high skill,
[07:29:59] but they're the highest ranked support players on any team right now, I think.
[07:30:03] Between Dukals and 9-class, they're both at top 50.
[07:30:06] 9-class is ranked 20.
[07:30:07] They are really individually on point right now, so mad props to them
[07:30:10] because I think they are winning for a reason,
[07:30:13] and it's because they've been working hard
[07:30:14] and they're very individually skilled right now.
[07:30:17] And their creativity, it feels that when this team can let it rain
[07:30:21] and they have a pool of unusual heroes to choose from.
[07:30:24] For example, the Witch Doctor that has now become a problem.
[07:30:28] They seem almost impossible to beat,
[07:30:30] unless other teams can find very quick solutions
[07:30:33] for problems that just happen overnight.
[07:30:35] Like this Witch Doctor, I guarantee you,
[07:30:37] no one thought about,
[07:30:38] oh, how are we gonna play
[07:30:39] against Paravision's Witch Doctor yesterday?
[07:30:41] But now, if you're facing them tomorrow,
[07:30:43] you have to think about it.
[07:30:44] You're like, okay, if the Witch Doctor,
[07:30:45] what do we do, maybe a life stealer?
[07:30:47] It's gonna change things.
[07:30:48] Yeah, and it is going to change things, whether it's going to change things already,
[07:30:52] thank you for your good name.
[07:30:53] It's just the which time I lose.
[07:30:56] There's no reaction to which time.
[07:30:58] We are going to have to move on to our second semi-finals in the upper bracket.
[07:31:03] Terence versus Oroa, coming your way after this.
[07:31:48] What you need is love and understanding.
[07:31:52] Find a heart whose love is true.
[07:31:56] Deep down there's only one companion
[07:32:00] who's there for you when you need him to be.
[07:32:04] Your heart was broken in a thousand pieces
[07:32:08] so what faith that you've been through
[07:32:12] is there's a man who's your salvation
[07:32:16] Just ask yourself, am I ready for you?
[07:32:22] 100%
[07:32:25] I'm ready, I'm ready to stand
[07:32:29] Yes, I'm ready, I'm ready
[07:32:33] I'm ready, I'm ready
[07:32:35] 100%
[07:32:39] Take a chance in a new direction
[07:32:44] Any place you want to go
[07:32:48] I don't have all the answers
[07:32:52] But one thing I know
[07:32:54] I'm so ready for you
[07:32:56] I'm ready to say
[07:32:59] I'm ready to say
[07:33:01] No, I'm ready to say
[07:33:05] I'm ready to move on
[07:33:44] One hundred percent, no, I'm ready
[07:33:50] One hundred percent, no, there's no meaning
[07:33:54] One hundred percent, no, I'm ready
[07:33:58] One hundred percent, one hundred percent, yeah
[07:34:14] There were four louts, been up down, and I blame myself
[07:34:30] There's no doubt, we're back up now, who knows why we fell
[07:34:42] The wind pushing, holding on for something
[07:34:48] A blue sky is coming, we're still here
[07:34:53] Oh, I feel the love, yeah, I feel the love
[07:34:59] It's something we don't need to understand
[07:35:04] Oh, I feel the love, yeah, I feel the love
[07:35:10] Let's just don't know we don't need a plan
[07:35:15] Cause I'm still alive
[07:35:26] Cause I'm still alive
[07:35:59] I
[07:36:29] No, we don't need a plan
[07:36:33] Cause I feel the pain
[07:36:44] Cause I feel the pain
[07:36:55] Oh, I feel the pain
[07:36:57] Yeah, I feel love
[07:37:01] It's something we don't need to understand
[07:37:05] Oh, I feel love
[07:37:08] Yeah, I feel love
[07:37:12] Let's just go know we don't need a plan
[07:37:16] Cause I feel love
[07:37:27] Dream League season 29 is brought to you by DHL and Chex.
[07:37:55] We've already figured out one of our potential top three contenders moving on in Dream League
[07:38:00] Season 29, as part of their vision to have a taken down Falcons, but just knocked them
[07:38:05] to a lower bracket.
[07:38:06] We've got one more upper bracket ahead of ourselves.
[07:38:09] We've got Spirit taking on Aurora with Lacoste Bryan, and tell me something about this matchup,
[07:38:14] Effie.
[07:38:15] Well, this was going to be a spicy one, tsunami, because in this matchup in particular, what
[07:38:21] What I wanted to take a look at was the carry players on both of these teams, because when
[07:38:25] you think about these teams, they are essentially the cornerstone of the way that they draft,
[07:38:31] the way that they play, and the win conditions of both sides.
[07:38:34] So if we could please take a look at the hero graphic here, you will see that there are common
[07:38:39] heroes, but key differences.
[07:38:41] They do share heroes like Void, Tiny, Peel, and P things that can skirmish early on, but
[07:38:46] this is where it gets a little bit different.
[07:38:48] Nightfall there's a bit more of an early game flair in his Windrunner, his Ursa. His
[07:38:54] sometimes zoom, I know some people aren't a big fan of his carry doom down there
[07:38:57] on the panel, but if you look at Yatoro a lot of it is more geared towards the
[07:39:02] late game. He plays turret heroes like Terrorblade and Drowranger, heroes like
[07:39:07] Alchemist, Kez, Juggernaut, SF. So the key difference here that I want you guys to
[07:39:12] think about when you think of these two teams fighting each other is how can
[07:39:15] nightfall, how can he help his team? He goes through the gates, he likes to join
[07:39:21] scrimmaging early on, he needs to be active early on, whereas for Yatoro, he
[07:39:26] can play for the big comebacks, he can play for the late game team fighting. And
[07:39:30] I quickly wanted to show you a clip, if we could pull it up, of Team Spirit's
[07:39:35] comeback versus Beto, Beto and we're actually leading here. And as you can see,
[07:39:39] Kiritic, with the ages, was making an invasion at the 20 minute wisdom. But this
[07:39:43] This is what spirits do so well.
[07:39:45] Laurel and Nottmi are playing on the other side,
[07:39:47] on the other wisdom room,
[07:39:48] dating two piece one for Bethune.
[07:39:50] And while they are overreacting here,
[07:39:52] guess what's happening?
[07:39:53] Laurel, two piece, they get the return kill on Charitage,
[07:39:57] they get the kill here on Katayomi,
[07:39:59] and they effectively turn the game.
[07:40:01] When you play against two spirits,
[07:40:02] these are the players that you have to think about.
[07:40:07] That's what I got for you today, Nottmi.
[07:40:09] Happy to hear it.
[07:40:10] So then come on down and join us at the table
[07:40:12] While I interrogate these two, which one of you is hating on Nightfall's Doom?
[07:40:16] I think that was a costume.
[07:40:17] What costume are you saying?
[07:40:18] I'm not complaining about it.
[07:40:19] I am.
[07:40:20] Yeah, I didn't even say anything.
[07:40:21] I was looking at some of the heroes that he played.
[07:40:23] He actually played Cary Doom the last time they met against Team Spirit, and it didn't
[07:40:28] look good.
[07:40:29] It didn't look good, but I'm not a hater by any means.
[07:40:32] I mean, I can't be for this bit, but I think the hero is okayish from the carry roll.
[07:40:36] And time has passed since their matchup.
[07:40:38] So these two teams did face off on day number two of the group stage, but Aurora was still
[07:40:41] ice cold whenever they came into this tournament. They lost to Falcons, they lost to Liquid,
[07:40:45] and they lost to Spirit. Since then, they have been on a bit of a winning streak.
[07:40:49] Yeah, I call them the inverse extreme gaming, because street gaming won all their games early
[07:40:52] on and then lost everything afterwards. And Aurora, like, they're a team where you're like,
[07:40:57] 0-3 top of the leaderboard, 3WC, guaranteed to go, like, what's going on here at the beginning
[07:41:01] of the skirt stage. I feel like they've kind of stumbled across the finish line. Like, they,
[07:41:06] a lot of their series go to three games, they're not exactly clean, but I think it's
[07:41:10] It speaks to their resilience, that they continuously have been pulling out the last few series,
[07:41:15] and they're here in the upper bracket for a reason.
[07:41:18] Team Spirit, on the other hand, every time I've watched their games, there's one of two
[07:41:22] things that happens.
[07:41:23] One is you're like, wow, it really feels like they have the upper edge in this draft.
[07:41:26] It feels like, just strategically, they're going to win this game.
[07:41:29] Or you get into the game like Mira just showed, they're down 5-10k, they have no business
[07:41:33] winning this game, and then they win.
[07:41:35] So I feel like there's kind of a win from any direction, whether they look advantaged
[07:41:38] in the draft or not, and that's what I think Team Spirit's the team to beat today.
[07:41:42] So in the Venn diagram that you showed us, F.A., what Nightfall heroes do you think would
[07:41:46] enable Aurora to do the strategy that you're saying is most effective against Team Spirit,
[07:41:51] or is it even reliant on Nightfall's hero at all?
[07:41:53] I mean, you definitely need the Ursa type of hero, which isn't that great in this meta,
[07:41:58] but something that's winning its lane matchup and is able to rotate through the Twin Gates
[07:42:02] and get the enemy carry.
[07:42:03] If Nightfall isn't on a hero that can function in that way, then Aurora look weaker as a
[07:42:08] team.
[07:42:09] I'm looking at WS.
[07:42:10] I think I've been very impressed with what he was able to do, especially in the last
[07:42:13] series that they played against Navi.
[07:42:15] He was all over the place, top net worth throughout the second game, third game as well, because
[07:42:19] he was playing Dawnbreaker.
[07:42:21] It does feel very strong.
[07:42:22] It does suit his play style, what he wants to do in a game.
[07:42:26] And a lot of times he can be greedy, but he can also deliver with his farm.
[07:42:30] And I think coming into the series, they need to respect this hero.
[07:42:33] He's allowed to be greeted because Knight falls out here playing the Stemikary.
[07:42:36] Everyone is cooperating to make space for each other, and now we've got to make space
[07:42:39] for this last of our upper bracket series.
[07:42:42] Let's get into Spirit versus Aurora.
[07:42:44] Yay!
[07:42:45] Team Spirit is another, didn't play Valor recently.
[07:42:52] A lot of players like, maybe not trying hardest, in my opinion.
[07:42:57] So, another is a look like a bad team right now.
[07:43:01] My reason why I Spirit was like really good and winning because of Miposhka and now they
[07:43:07] don't have Miposhka, so...
[07:43:09] I think we're preparing like a lot, we're playing already like two weeks trying to do
[07:43:14] the best performance as we can as a team and everyone individually.
[07:43:20] We're playing much better than previous tournaments.
[07:43:27] The video is forward!
[07:43:28] I'm out of vortex!
[07:43:29] I think I'll combo him!
[07:43:30] I'm not even gonna call!
[07:43:31] Winner's curse is there!
[07:43:32] No, Tofu's trying to turn it back with a stolen ravage!
[07:43:35] Now, cut him from the mid!
[07:43:36] A stolen curse as well!
[07:43:38] Oh, he's incredible from spirit, but where's the damage?
[07:43:41] They get the dunk down, finish up Nisha!
[07:43:43] Finally killing him off!
[07:43:44] Liquid cares half health alongside Boxy!
[07:43:47] Dealing with collapse!
[07:43:48] Actors down!
[07:43:49] Ruse TP'd into the midst of battle now!
[07:43:51] Tofu and Mikae trying to escape!
[07:43:53] To be given away!
[07:43:54] They've got the call and the vortex!
[07:43:56] They've called the Cares to time up a little more damage.
[07:44:00] Mikkei about to be dropping here as not me will jump forward, collapse with another dunk.
[07:44:05] One for a chance to get our feel on someone.
[07:44:07] Starman has thrown out a lion, the hypnotize in, the throw goes there.
[07:44:10] But what if you get dragged into it or walk into it, whichever way you instill,
[07:44:14] we're waiting for Starman to blow them up anyway.
[07:44:18] Turn it back up an RV.
[07:44:21] I think our goals, the most important goals right now is at least win the tier one tournament.
[07:44:26] So, that's the most important goal for us currently.
[07:44:30] It's just all complex things we need to fix to become our best team.
[07:44:37] And so often whenever we get to the stage of a tournament with a roster change,
[07:44:41] we're oftentimes pointing fingers, being like,
[07:44:43] well, they're only making it this far because they're trying out a new player.
[07:44:46] And yet, Na'Vi is showing up in the highlight reel for Spirit
[07:44:50] because none of the conversations about, oh, they're just trying to find their footing with Na'Vi.
[07:44:54] He's slotted in seamlessly and we're just like, yeah, spirit.
[07:44:57] K-Ori still misses Miposhka, but I feel like this is a perfect generation of a new spirit.
[07:45:04] He's cooking. I mean, a lot of players are singing his praises too from the interviews that we've heard.
[07:45:09] I don't think anyone expected him to be as good as he was this dream.
[07:45:13] It was a weird move. Team Spirit did quite a lot of weird moves throughout the history
[07:45:18] in terms of the hero swaps and everything.
[07:45:20] They went TI, then tarot to Tokyo Leaves, then you have also Miposhka silently leaving the team as well.
[07:45:27] And then you also had like Rue joining, people are like, yeah, he needs to replace Mira, which is going to be very difficult.
[07:45:32] And now this, so I think we got to respect their decisions no matter what happens,
[07:45:37] because they are seeing things in the players that we might not be seeing.
[07:45:41] And this one, it's showing off immediately compared to, I would say,
[07:45:45] when he first joined the team, he needed a little bit of extra time, like three, four months, that's completely fit into the team.
[07:45:51] For me, they're like the team with the most defining culture.
[07:45:54] No matter what player gets plugged into it, it just seems like they have a way of...
[07:45:58] They have the team's spirit way of doing things, and I really admire that a lot about this team.
[07:46:03] I feel like I'm no longer surprised that they can just slot in a new player like not me, and they can make it work.
[07:46:09] I think that ever since Maposhka left,
[07:46:11] I remember Coloss mentioning in the interview
[07:46:13] that they've been like rotating who's drafting,
[07:46:15] trying to figure out who comes up with the strategies now.
[07:46:18] I do feel like they have found their identity
[07:46:20] this tournament, which is quite impressive given,
[07:46:23] you know, it's that time of year again.
[07:46:24] We're approaching EWC, TI season.
[07:46:27] It's time to figure it out, but Team Spirit always shows up.
[07:46:29] We saw Napmi on camera as well, high-fiving himself.
[07:46:33] Hand paint that never saw this happen before.
[07:46:36] He's like, good job, yeah.
[07:46:37] Keep the spirit high, Emerlite, you know?
[07:46:39] That's the COVID-Gamer life.
[07:46:41] She's doing a little yoga before the game.
[07:46:43] Yes.
[07:46:45] Okay, this is new for Team Spirit.
[07:46:47] The Snapfire opener, I don't think I've seen them experiment
[07:46:52] with this hero the same way that other teams have,
[07:46:55] like with Bed Boom or with Tundra.
[07:46:58] I wonder if this hero has just entered the meta now
[07:47:01] after a few days of seeing it over and over.
[07:47:03] It looked good.
[07:47:04] It did look good, especially against melee heroes.
[07:47:06] And they pick up Windranger, something that they can't flex between position 1 and 2,
[07:47:11] so they have an option sending out Windranger to the mid lane,
[07:47:14] because you're not so much affected by her spells.
[07:47:17] We saw Sapphire Dominic, some of these melee matchups, like Ango, where you can solo kill him.
[07:47:22] You're playing on his side of the map very much, camping on his high ground.
[07:47:25] He gets close cookie into scatter blast, take down half of his HP.
[07:47:29] So, can get very difficult, and I think Aurora,
[07:47:32] You're seeing these longer-range heroes coming out from the mid lane as a response to Snapfire.
[07:47:37] I think Zeus is also a good option to deal with the Snapfire because you're never going to get close.
[07:47:42] It's also not a pick that you're going to be picking straight away, but later down the line,
[07:47:46] if they decide this Windranger is going to go to carry roll, that could potentially be an option.
[07:47:50] Yeah, but it's not something you'd associate with Kodo as a player, right?
[07:47:54] I think they have a read.
[07:47:56] Ban Puck, Ban Storm, takes Snapfire and erases his Monkey King plus Amber Spirit from the pool, making him work with basically only a queen of Pandal.
[07:48:05] But it's a cool idea.
[07:48:07] Yeah, they've had like a very different approach to every draft given the opposing team that they're playing against, so that definitely checks out.
[07:48:13] I think Makoto is a great player to target in the drafting stage.
[07:48:17] I think Snapfire, what's cool about it is it still can just potentially be a support, so you're effectively block picking all these melee mids without locking it.
[07:48:25] walking in a role. It's like if you pick Huskar right, I guess if your 9 class could be support,
[07:48:29] but it's pretty much going to be a mid laner. But with Snapfire, you know, you're forcing them into
[07:48:34] something like Zeus, which if they end up going that route on Aurora, they just have to keep in
[07:48:38] mind what we saw yesterday from VG Gaming, which is playmaking, like a lot of these ranged mid laners
[07:48:43] that do well against Snap, the invokers, the Zeus, the Tinkers, they're not going to be the early
[07:48:46] catalyst playmaker. So Winter Ranger is like a decent carry to complement that. So I also want to
[07:48:52] see like an offline stunner, they're draft easier as it goes along.
[07:48:57] I also think that the silencer could be a really good pickup because they're banning
[07:49:02] out Nix's assassin, it is most likely going to be a core snapfire, they can still flex
[07:49:07] it but this is something that completely stops what snapfire wants to do, it's the, like
[07:49:12] Zeus does the same thing with Nimbus because it just stops your ulti from going off and
[07:49:17] Nix does the same thing, the silencer as well does something he replays and I, just one
[07:49:22] Hero like you guys called me a doom hater. I hate wind ranger carry and I hate the warlock position 5 even more
[07:49:29] You're not alone on either of those takes probably probably not what about when I because winter carry
[07:49:34] I thought she was for sure dead with the facet patch getting removed because she basically just lost all of it like why do
[07:49:39] We think teams are still going for it. Just like he goes back
[07:49:43] He goes in every single fight. He moves fast. That's that's what it is
[07:49:47] I think it's player comfort, plus you kind of want a strong range here to be able to lean in the safe lane.
[07:49:54] You can see teams move away from one ranger and want to draw ranger plus more into that territory as it means a very replacement.
[07:50:00] And those ones do actually feel stronger, but it's just a player-specific thing at this point.
[07:50:05] Nightfall plays a really mean one ranger team.
[07:50:08] I like the techies out of the phase as well. We are seeing some of the teams kind of abusing it as well in terms of,
[07:50:14] Like we saw previous game or previous series where they also had tiny they also picked up timber software themselves banning out doom
[07:50:22] I think it's the same thinking here because techies
[07:50:25] This is one of the heroes that is most annoying for Windranger court to play against because you have that the spell onto windrun
[07:50:32] Which makes it almost impossible for you to play the game
[07:50:34] You cannot you don't necessarily need to use it on yourself you use it on any court that does go in and it's gonna
[07:50:40] Do the trick?
[07:50:41] Largo is still in the pool. I mean, this is a hero that's actually looked very solid in Team Spirit's hands,
[07:50:47] and it's something they love to pick against Windranger too for the Dispals.
[07:50:52] They secure their treant instead, Prime and they don't on this hero versus their series versus Fathom.
[07:50:58] They played Range Tiro plus Dream Protector.
[07:51:01] Yeah, that's traditionally one of the scariest lanes in all of them.
[07:51:03] I feel like it's like Tree Range Tiro, I'm dying Range Tiro. Those safe lanes are virtually unbeatable.
[07:51:09] I was surprised they locked it like I thought snap was probably gonna be a core
[07:51:12] But I thought they'd at least hide it hide it for a little bit longer than now
[07:51:16] The only thing I think of what I see tree is this potential damage issues
[07:51:20] I know liquid had that problem
[07:51:21] But that is definitely not a concern when you have snapfire already and then you're gonna pick a turret at carry
[07:51:25] So I like the more to match up for win ranger like meeting against win ranger
[07:51:30] I like more it as a range carry because both heroes have a button that makes us the other one can't hit you
[07:51:35] But then where it took an itemized then KB while win ranger cannot
[07:51:38] So that's what I'm eyeing out of everything, but then at the same time you're kind of looking at BKB issues
[07:51:44] Meaning that Team Spirit is purely magic damage. So that's a concern if Aurora picks like an early Orabire or
[07:51:52] Anything that like yeah, okay, that would hmm. I don't know if I like this doom very much
[07:51:57] I feel like it's susceptible in lane maybe without the techies taser though or maybe with that he's not
[07:52:02] It's a strong lane, but I also feel that this lineup is lacking
[07:52:06] some kind of control. Shackle shot, Techie's blast off, it's kind of not it.
[07:52:13] So I want to see what Mikota is going to be playing, whether this winter is going to be
[07:52:16] going to the mid lane against Sapphire as a range 0, or if they're going to be able to
[07:52:20] find something that is really good overall. They could also play it as a
[07:52:26] position 4, this is not a team that does play it from position 4, so I don't think
[07:52:29] they have that flex open. I'm sure Mira can play it, but it doesn't strike me as
[07:52:35] something that he would like to play in this meta.
[07:52:37] Yeah, for sure. I think this duo is a pre-pick to address Largo.
[07:52:41] You see, when Ranger Largo's on ban, it's one of Team Spirit's most successful heroes,
[07:52:44] and Doom essentially counters it.
[07:52:46] So now Team Spirit are going to move away from the Largo, I would imagine,
[07:52:50] and just look for a typical stun hero for a club.
[07:52:54] I just realized, I don't know if anybody mentioned it, but K.O.R.Y. like, his main hero right now in this match.
[07:53:00] I realized, that's maybe why they picked this manfire, I was about to say.
[07:53:04] I think it's for all the reasons we just said, but I was also like, wait, why doesn't Kaori just pick Phoenix here?
[07:53:09] Oh, yeah, they have Snapfire. So I think that Team Spirit thought it was just like
[07:53:13] the purpreer pick for all these, it shuts down literally two players on
[07:53:17] Aurora. Now SF gets picked here. I'm curious because I
[07:53:23] remember watching Liquid, they were not having success with SF and they were playing SF into Terrible. And I was like,
[07:53:29] can you go to the Kaya Yasha build? And
[07:53:31] And people are just telling me because you lost Max Souls,
[07:53:34] like I haven't had a chance to play so I don't know for sure,
[07:53:36] but you lost Max Souls, which means the build got nerfed,
[07:53:39] and I was like, but it's still better than right-clicking a Terrablade, right?
[07:53:43] And I think it's similar, like we saw it in the early series today, yeah.
[07:53:46] The Wits just fricking owned with it two games in a row this morning,
[07:53:49] and I was like, oh, like it is still a build, I wasn't sure.
[07:53:52] So now I'm wondering when you see this SF, is that potentially a build here?
[07:53:57] When Yutoro had run it against a Betboom Lich and Windranger, he went Mask of Madness Silver Edge.
[07:54:05] Oh, interesting.
[07:54:08] Interesting.
[07:54:08] So there's Variety.
[07:54:10] And it's a lot of damage reduction coming out from Lich with his Flash Shield,
[07:54:15] and you also have Dancer on top of that against the Right Click Shadow Fiend.
[07:54:19] The rest of the damage on their side is magical up until a point where Snapfire becomes another Right Clicker as well,
[07:54:26] But I'm really glad that they're also respecting the Zeus fans, something that we immediately started talking about,
[07:54:31] because it could be good they have no gap closers, and it kind of would be the perfect thing.
[07:54:37] And now for Team Spirit's draft to round out, like, something like a Mars would look perfect,
[07:54:43] except Mars hasn't looked that good this tournament, unfortunately, like, it would combo solo with this map.
[07:54:49] Now we can say Mars type hero.
[07:54:51] A Mars?
[07:54:52] Correct or not?
[07:54:53] But not Mars, just a Mars type hero.
[07:54:55] I mean, if anyone's gonna pull it off, it'll be collapsed, right?
[07:54:59] As if Amar wasn't the other high-water benchmark, and he got a blasted last series?
[07:55:04] He did, but he did win one as well.
[07:55:06] Sure.
[07:55:07] But it was versus us, though.
[07:55:08] And I think that, I'll actually say it, I think Mick gave me a mistake that game of going right-click-as-off against Mars.
[07:55:15] Like, because every single fight Amar just arenaed him, and then he bulwarked him later.
[07:55:20] So, also, I would like to see an Axe-Ban from Aurora.
[07:55:24] I think Axe is really good here. They have no saves on the supports.
[07:55:27] Windrangers... Okay, they go back. Yeah, nice.
[07:55:30] Do they ever go back for the Legion Commander?
[07:55:32] Only if level 25. Only if you can get level 25.
[07:55:36] That level 25 timing is disgusting.
[07:55:38] I'm okay with something like a Primal Beast to come out.
[07:55:42] Not so good against Carry Windranger in the lane as much,
[07:55:46] but this is something that they played from the mid lane.
[07:55:48] They played from the off lane as well. It is unlimited amount of damage check that was a really good man
[07:55:54] Of course you have doom you always have to have that hero in your mind because of the save
[07:55:59] Didn't expect this conco. It's actually so funny. I was like who's another blade mill buyer
[07:56:03] That's like kind of just tanky and lane spying against winter ranger because you can harass her and then I remember I was
[07:56:10] Going through my mind pals
[07:56:11] And I literally remember getting owned in a pub by somebody playing conco when I was playing winter ranger
[07:56:15] And I'm like that's probably not gonna be their pick and then they pick it
[07:56:17] So I think it's the blade mail hero that you also cleaver with the type bringer in lane
[07:56:22] It is a generally nice lane matchup gives you a bit of catch not making potential you are looking at that foot
[07:56:27] I know what you're talking about. Yeah, you you wink at me and said that we have a new nickname for not me
[07:56:34] You said big foot because it looked massive on the air. He's got a pretty much
[07:56:39] Are you going to stay in here?
[07:56:41] Yes, I'm going to stay in Windranger.
[07:56:43] She also suffers quite heavily versus X-File.
[07:56:45] It's not a battle that she has counterplay for until she gets BKV.
[07:56:49] And on lane, she loses existing versus Kunkka.
[07:56:54] She's not the kind of hero that wants to consistently buy a region on that safe lane.
[07:56:58] I like that pick a lot for those two reasons.
[07:57:01] Oh, they actually swap it up and move to the Windranger mid.
[07:57:03] Okay, nice.
[07:57:05] I mean, Lifestealer Kunkka is an interesting matchup because I actually think Lifestealer loses this lane.
[07:57:10] He doesn't get booted out. Like, he's not, like, winner- like, I think Winteranger wins early and then eventually has to leave when Kunkka gets fixed.
[07:57:16] And I think this lane's the opposite, where you lose early as Lifestealer, but then level, like, 5 and 6, you start to bully him out and you're really self-sustaining.
[07:57:24] I think, I'll have to go with the opposite on this one, Brian. As an off-lane Kunkka enjoyer, I would not love to play this lane.
[07:57:32] Like, I think you will get clicked, you will get shield frosted, you'll get frost nova,
[07:57:38] especially if they start to play aggressive level 1.
[07:57:40] Maybe they can try to sway this matchup a little bit with some living armor,
[07:57:45] but I think this is a very difficult concoct matchup.
[07:57:48] And overall, in the picture of the game, Lifestealer is king late game.
[07:57:53] Like, he's not friend by anything except the overgrowth,
[07:57:56] which you can easily counter play through your rage, holding your rage or buying a BKB.
[07:58:00] It's a good lifestealer game.
[07:58:01] Yeah, I really liked Farid's draft up until a point where they picked Kunkka.
[07:58:06] Maybe they thought that they were lacking a little bit of control, just to have that catch the Windranger,
[07:58:12] catch whoever they're trying to chase, because Shadowfinn doesn't provide you any staff fires.
[07:58:18] Kind of meh, Shrine Protector is also very slow, so it has to be like Rubik,
[07:58:22] so they want it to go with something that is relatively cheap, lower cooldown to have this catch.
[07:58:26] So in an ideal world, Kunkka is going offline.
[07:58:28] I want to say it real quick, Laurel is playing, so they matched him up against Windranger.
[07:58:32] I think Snap is gonna dump on this lifestealer.
[07:58:35] I think that if the game is somewhat even at 15 minutes, then this lifestealer is gonna carry the shit out.
[07:58:40] But I think Team Spirit set up to win all three lanes, so I think we might see one of those games where the draft strategy
[07:58:45] late game doesn't matter. That's what I'm thinking.
[07:58:46] It's a great swap.
[07:58:47] It's a great swap.
[07:58:48] Yeah, it's off lane, Snapfire, and mid.
[07:58:51] That's an excellent swap, and I think Team Spirit have really strong lanes and making win off of that.
[07:58:56] But overall late game regardless of the swap you don't want to take it to the lane. Yeah, you don't want to get there
[07:59:01] I think they need it to do the swap because I just said that this concap. He's not enjoying the lane
[07:59:06] So it's gonna be much better over. So then there's an off-lane snapfire
[07:59:11] Okay, give me the assessment against the lifestealer
[07:59:14] It's not gonna be the greatest, but I think she's okay
[07:59:17] The problem is gets when you are playing like between five and six or you don't have too much to do
[07:59:22] but if you can get the level 6, rotate, get the kill, and we'll do it.
[07:59:26] Okay, well let's see if Team Spirit's gonna move into the country and feed on some liches.
[07:59:31] Let's get into it again, number one with Gareth. Now, see you, Jade.
[08:00:22] And you would imagine that would be the case if you looked at me through history, through
[08:00:42] spirit, over all having a 75% win rate against the warra.
[08:00:46] Last year was 85% win rate, but this year, the warra is actually at the other hand against
[08:00:51] and the gas looks to potentially have a nudge, not gobbled upon, as they had it before.
[08:00:57] Very interesting matchup, the stylus of the word.
[08:00:59] A lot of late game between these two teams, a lot of heavy team fight, two very interesting carries in terms of the history.
[08:01:09] You have one that yaps the whole game, that is my fault, of course.
[08:01:13] Then you have Yatoro, who's also a big communicator, but he has the big wins to back it up.
[08:01:18] who does. That's why I think maybe the resume is the difference maker here.
[08:01:23] However, Nightfall looking to practice at home.
[08:01:26] As he looks towards the future.
[08:01:28] As he's making up the life stealer.
[08:01:31] He's known for his PKBTP.
[08:01:32] He's known to play PKBTP.
[08:01:33] Skip sell. Skip sell.
[08:01:35] Skip's half the step.
[08:01:36] The ultimate Nightfall technique.
[08:01:38] Why have to wait for a 4000 kick gold item when you just have it in his bow?
[08:01:42] Good point, Gary.
[08:01:43] See if it comes into play here.
[08:01:45] It's a pretty nice life stealer game.
[08:01:46] You know, there's overgrowth and there's like SF right clicks, but that's pretty much it.
[08:01:50] So, interesting lane swap by Spirit, trying to dodge some of these bad matchups.
[08:01:54] I think the Kunkun or the Lifestealer would have been an extremely one-sided pair.
[08:01:58] So, they're trying to avoid the worst of the worst,
[08:02:01] see what claps can do on this off-lane snap,
[08:02:03] and if it has the same ramp up capabilities of the mid-snap, because you are getting a lot less levels.
[08:02:07] That's a huge deal for this hero.
[08:02:08] This is a hero that thrives off the levels more than the gold, and it can give you a little bit.
[08:02:13] However, you are very strong in the two-on-two as a side laner,
[08:02:16] if you can get some of those kills going so they managed to kill Lich once or twice
[08:02:20] Maybe I could springboard him into an equivalent mid game
[08:02:22] Yeah, especially when you've got lift into cookie and displace your enemy and then display yourself
[08:02:28] Everything is already gonna get blasted on by Mira
[08:02:31] You're already chasing with the Lich as well, but I'll lift back gives him a space to knock me
[08:02:35] Not a comfortable position to be in but he's gonna try and slip out of here already spending a fairy fire
[08:02:40] I'm gonna try and tuck away in TP. Don't have to take loose level one if you don't have to though
[08:02:45] So that's a minor win for Aurora?
[08:02:47] I'm gonna chase him here. I don't really know if he can...
[08:02:49] get out.
[08:02:51] He might still die, at the very least he's gonna spend the second fairy fire.
[08:02:54] He can fairy fire TP to survive, but that is a lot of gold.
[08:02:57] Quite better just to go down.
[08:03:00] Oh, Calanth is gonna help him out.
[08:03:02] He'll lift back and scan the blast, save the Rubik.
[08:03:05] So no first blood spilled.
[08:03:07] That's not the worst outcome. It costs the Refrost Blast.
[08:03:11] It's a lot of mana.
[08:03:13] here the downside is you're missing rubik off the lane for a bit he does very
[08:03:16] out the south actually had it running oh wow preemptive and so you knew he's
[08:03:21] gonna live did the math or he's not all the novus here so very happy for
[08:03:25] collapse actually just have to play in all the no but image and just get to sit
[08:03:28] here and CS with a pretty high base damage hero people under eight the
[08:03:32] universal snapfire one of the few universal still left in the meta
[08:03:35] Just buy a bunch of stats, tank up them look pretty good.
[08:03:38] W ads already getting clicked.
[08:03:40] Fine, it's top lane, Trin and Shadowfiend offering a lot of right click damage.
[08:03:44] Very strong lane setup from Spears.
[08:03:46] Trees, SF is basically going to lose against nothing if you play it right.
[08:03:49] The Sapphire plus Rubik double range lane and there's that lich kill.
[08:03:53] They get it.
[08:03:55] You don't want to give too many of those here.
[08:03:57] I'm telling you it's really going to spring board collapse into a strong mid game.
[08:04:00] Even more stats, earlier Bracers come online, suddenly he's out CSing your life skiller even more.
[08:04:04] It's not a lane that Nightfall is going to trade against in the long term.
[08:04:07] Big concerns here for Aurora in the Two-Sideslands over, you know, the first 8 to 10 minute period.
[08:04:12] Big worry for them. Nothing that Nightfall can really do to play with his support.
[08:04:16] He has to kind of stick it out in the lane, farm the creeps, let them just die.
[08:04:21] Not a great spot to be in though.
[08:04:23] I want to take a step back though with all these little switch-ups and adaptations.
[08:04:27] First of all, it was Aurora, right, moving the Swin Range into mid,
[08:04:30] that it's going to be a Makoto hero picking his last pick, Life Stealer for Nightfall,
[08:04:34] and then Spirit waited until the last moment to actually put players on heroes. They waited
[08:04:38] to see what was going on, had a little chat, talked about it, and then like, okay, we'll put
[08:04:43] Laurel mid, put collapse on the snapfire, and that's what just dodged the Kunker lane?
[08:04:47] Yeah, 100%. As Life Stealer pick was predicated on getting the free matchup, and then you're just
[08:04:51] winning lanes, I don't think Aurora preferred to play the Winter Ranger mid, and that falls
[08:04:56] fairly proficient on the hero. So they ended up with three losing lengths instead and this is the
[08:05:01] big one. Life stealer is not a hero who often wants to be in this position or you pick to be in
[08:05:06] this position. It's a hero, it's a counterpick hero in a sense of you see a melee hero he can
[08:05:09] fuse and lane you know he's gonna have a good early game and then he can just propel himself into
[08:05:12] fast radiance, fast map play. That's such a trajectory you're looking for. You don't want to play this
[08:05:17] hero from behind. It just feels icky. Yeah I mean he's a straight up laning hero. Sometimes reminds
[08:05:22] me of that old expector wall lock kind of style with this life stealer lich where you're just thinking
[08:05:26] Okay, hit lane creeps try and defend this life stealer. We're not going to play aggressively looking for kills
[08:05:31] We don't offer nukes or kill threat really onto these very heroes
[08:05:34] So if you lose your lich you lose a lot of that protection
[08:05:37] And then the follow on his night falls in trouble
[08:05:40] My yantra is gonna get a courier sniped up. Well, it's pushing this. Why you fall away under tower
[08:05:46] Mirror on the backside being dealt with by the tree and as well. You got this whole courier a ton of damage from these razors onto WS
[08:05:53] Not easy for these side lane heroes, for Aurora that is being bullied everywhere you look,
[08:05:59] and Rue has chased Mera all the way out of lane as well.
[08:06:02] Happy to give the SSO our feaks, you can bully the Doom on his own anyway.
[08:06:05] There's a lot of pressure on these lanes.
[08:06:08] Only that one kill bottom, but we can see it's getting spicy here and just solo kills him.
[08:06:14] Captures his soul, big soul kill for Yatoro, he invested a lot of mana into that, he wanted to pay off.
[08:06:21] This could get out of hand.
[08:06:23] Here, I'm not gonna say it will, but it could.
[08:06:25] On all three lanes here.
[08:06:27] Steps are being made.
[08:06:29] And then with this tree in Kunkka...
[08:06:31] Damn, how about this one?
[08:06:32] Slide step from Mirra, I knew it was coming.
[08:06:34] Right as old teammate, like a book.
[08:06:37] Exactly what was happening.
[08:06:39] And then we're at Laurel against this Windranger.
[08:06:41] Having a pretty damn good time.
[08:06:43] Really fun matchup for Kunkka.
[08:06:45] You can buy the early blade mail here if you really want to make the Windrangers like miserable.
[08:06:50] The X mark is a really tough spell for him to deal with the whole game and Bo-Rum just counteracts the focus fire.
[08:06:56] Jeez, that immediate damage from that fire. Just blast the Lich again and it all it takes is a little bit of chip from the two range cheaters to finish him off.
[08:07:03] And then you lose your Lich and Nightfall's thinking, right, I'm not going to see creeps for the next 30 seconds.
[08:07:08] No, this lane only gets harder. This is why I mentioned that those Lich kills before the lane started because I think it was a really high chance you'd get one away.
[08:07:16] Two is maybe a little above the expected outcome. If you die a third time, this lane is over.
[08:07:22] That's not a knock-on effect from them trying to kill his Ruvik.
[08:07:26] Yeah, it really was. Not me. The fact that he ferried out the south really fast so he didn't miss lane means you didn't lose a lot of that.
[08:07:32] You're kind of happy to trade a south for triple frostblast on that one. That's not a bad trade.
[08:07:38] That's pretty good for it.
[08:07:41] Especially with how Lich has to win lanes. He's a hero that wins lanes by putting early nuke damage into you,
[08:07:45] gaining advantage and then if we're using that and taming him with the carry, if he uses a lot of
[08:07:49] mana and doesn't gain an advantage for it, you're neutralizing a lot of the impact that
[08:07:53] hero. It's similar like if you waste Undyne's first two minutes. His whole trajectory for the
[08:07:59] lane phase is thrown off. He's gonna jump on again. Yeah, just playing forward under the glitch.
[08:08:04] One more time. I'm not getting the kill this time around and there's also two being techies down here.
[08:08:09] Aurora making sure that this doesn't get completely out of hand, but life stealer gets lifted back,
[08:08:14] Collapsed steps away it gets a bit of distance and he can cookie to high ground. Oh nice
[08:08:19] Do you know where to bridge the gap so fast with the teaser?
[08:08:23] So now they're bringing a 30 year on his length. They'll not getting anything out of it
[08:08:29] There's also remedies the I don't know it's an issue
[08:08:31] But the point you brought up about snapfire moving from mid to the off lane if you're winning your lane and dominating this hard
[08:08:36] You're gonna get the level six a pretty good rate
[08:08:39] He's getting stats up to the levels
[08:08:41] is the hero that can put a lot of damage into a Kuka combo that normally might be lacking.
[08:08:46] Boat is available in this mid lane, so if they can bring some damage in for a while,
[08:08:50] he's looking happy, but Shield Rune for Mikoto got a pretty nice one at the six minutes.
[08:08:54] And he's just statting up as well.
[08:08:58] Early Belt plus Bracer plus Wraith Band.
[08:09:02] Looking for some extra survivability against the magic damage coming out from this higher
[08:09:07] captain.
[08:09:08] They're gonna entire team.
[08:09:10] They're gonna be very careful.
[08:09:12] If they can't shoot, they're gonna blast you.
[08:09:14] Pressure point right now is this doom.
[08:09:16] Because the techies went bottom, they don't really have any action in this top lane.
[08:09:20] WS has just been left alone in.
[08:09:22] He left alone against Shadowfiend.
[08:09:24] Yeah, nasty.
[08:09:26] It's a rough one. It's a real rough one.
[08:09:28] And there's a reason a year ago, right, we had Shadowfiend Tree
[08:09:31] and being permanently first phase banned.
[08:09:33] They had it nerfed and changed a little bit, but they're still a very powerful combo.
[08:09:37] Now they're going to have to double TP support top should be able to get a kill
[08:09:42] No, he's out of it
[08:09:44] All right, no blast off. Yeah a little awkward there for sure
[08:09:47] At least they defend the wisdom trying better get double TP for the supports just draining the economy here
[08:09:51] Look at the net worth on the lich techies. They have nothing negative GPM territory
[08:09:57] A thousand net worth and now they kind of stuck in that top lane having to play through the doom
[08:10:03] There is no gameplay to this dude
[08:10:05] But then what does the port do it?
[08:10:07] That's what I'm saying. Double TPing up here feels real bad because you're likely just gonna have to walk back towards mid.
[08:10:12] Look for something in another lane that isn't really a play opportunity because Kunkka can just boat and walk away.
[08:10:17] The map's really awkward for a support duo that wants to be finding kills.
[08:10:22] That is a picture of grass.
[08:10:24] That's a lawn.
[08:10:26] That's the classic Windows desktop picture.
[08:10:29] I'm gonna move into the top room spot here.
[08:10:32] I'm gonna put the Lotus, Fairyfly, Heal back up, focus on the gun for those, I'll chase the Windranger down, surrounding him with four heroes.
[08:10:38] The mirror's gonna slip away, not to grab him in the Amp damage rune, but...
[08:10:42] Nice rotation for this Oral. That's like his signature. When I destroy my lane, I like going mid and just killing whoever's there.
[08:10:49] We saw a dude in the TI finals. He loves this move, he can dominate the solo lane.
[08:10:55] A lot of teams, they don't expect it. We've also seen Nightfall make this move more often too.
[08:10:59] It's giving aggressive, the CDC to our player.
[08:11:04] It's a really efficient move if you can just push the wave in, you solo kill the off laner,
[08:11:08] you have the resources to make it. It's not that far of a walk to that power.
[08:11:14] Catches Aurora off guard, this Toro Shadowfiend is completely snowballing now.
[08:11:22] I guess the steps up, nothing to touch him. Seems pretty happy now to stack camps, build up a
[08:11:28] a bit of bank so Rubik is gonna stank near the Conquer. Lola can finish off some of those
[08:11:33] medium camps. So what did the grass have to do with it? I have no idea. Okay. I thought
[08:11:40] you knew what was going on. Not entirely sure. Maybe Aurora looking for greener pastures
[08:11:46] in this cop lane. I don't know what I'm saying. It's all dry muddy land. Nothing's growing
[08:11:54] Yeah, I'm trying blast off and do my two reentry. Okay, get the first part of the game. Sure
[08:12:00] Yeah, you got down
[08:12:02] You got one on the school board for Aurora. I
[08:12:06] Don't even hate that
[08:12:09] Yeah
[08:12:13] Clowns being walked down by a life stealer at least now you got these four levels in the feast
[08:12:18] So able to self sustain and just stick it out this bottom lane is the life stealer. Yeah, you're not getting pressure down here
[08:12:23] That's the bigger component.
[08:12:24] Claps, they go to the early phase boost just to pipe the slides to the round a little bit.
[08:12:31] Point of attack for Spirit should be this middle lane.
[08:12:34] They can ever X combo this Windranger.
[08:12:37] And again, bringing one of the other cores in for the damage fall to either kisses or some raises like we saw earlier.
[08:12:42] McCuttle's gonna die every time.
[08:12:45] Yeah, you're Spirit and Ham that observable down in the Roshan pit.
[08:12:48] So they see any entry points towards bottom rune, then they put four heroes at top rune, just guarding everything.
[08:12:54] And the Kirito gets in on to collapse, but if he keeps down to low ground, kind of cancels out by the sinister gaze.
[08:13:00] It's a tanky snapfire, but they'll relish him up with a power shot, and the Chent Frost just refuse to go to her.
[08:13:08] They killed Aurora, almost didn't work.
[08:13:10] He doesn't get pulled up to the high ground, I think that kill ends up being really awkward, so...
[08:13:15] They barely get the execution there, and now on the rune.
[08:13:18] I'll try to find something with a haste room finds nothing successful dodge from Aurora making some moves here
[08:13:23] Get some stacks of two Mira that stack in this triangle
[08:13:27] Consistency game so they're economy looking a little better after that play
[08:13:34] Look at this get toro just mask a madness into
[08:13:38] Disassemble specialist array. It's pretty cool. I like this again
[08:13:42] I think this special story is really underrated as a burly farming item
[08:13:46] It's basically cleave on ranged heroes for no mana cost
[08:13:51] It's incredibly efficient
[08:13:54] Yeah, forget now strong. This is where it's at. Yeah, I agree. This is like the new maelstrom
[08:13:58] I think people have to rewire the reception of the item a little bit
[08:14:01] It feels really good to play with I think on paper. It's not broken or anything, but when you play with it
[08:14:06] It's like, oh, yeah, it feels good. I'm just clearing through ways clearing through camps like 20 30 40% faster
[08:14:12] And then you get Hydra's breath later, which is an amazing leaky item on this range, so I'm all for this, this is a cool build.
[08:14:19] So you see that plant here on the snapfire mid, GDK loves to buy it, but usually has a laterite, so you're seeing it, Shadiffine.
[08:14:25] The thing is, the specialist in rayon snap isn't that good, because you never get attack speed in the build.
[08:14:29] He's not a nagi hero.
[08:14:30] You're not really...
[08:14:31] He's spellcasting to clear waves.
[08:14:32] Yeah, your wave clearing farm is spellcasting with mana regen.
[08:14:35] with mana regen. SF is a great hero for this rapidly farming jungle. His network is spiraling
[08:14:43] out of control. If you're watching, just clear through this upper quarter of the path. Yeah,
[08:14:47] Makoto's doing stacks, but he's doing with Power Shot. This SF is taking names right
[08:14:52] now. If Runes of the Doom, and Lawl was there, but I don't even think they needed it. 130
[08:14:57] CS on the skylight. Almost doubling the life stealer. That's actually crazy.
[08:15:02] 75 on nightfall.
[08:15:08] Trony get to that radiance.
[08:15:09] He goes shut down a little bit in that early game.
[08:15:12] And it is recovery time after losing that tier one tower as well.
[08:15:17] Keeping a couple of supports to bodyguard this lifestealer, make sure that there is no access
[08:15:21] point into that southern jungle to get him into that radiance.
[08:15:26] Just spirit running the map.
[08:15:28] So then we're looking at Makoto, these moves to kill a class bottom lane, try and shift
[08:15:33] into top, very important as Windranger gets something going.
[08:15:36] Looks like she's heading into a specialist array as well.
[08:15:39] Interesting.
[08:15:40] She can come out here on both sides.
[08:15:44] I don't know if I like it as much for the Windranger, but...
[08:15:47] Does it indicate they're thinking about taking this later?
[08:15:51] Just greed it out for now?
[08:15:53] Whether the Storm?
[08:15:54] You might not have a choice the way this really game went.
[08:15:56] We definitely need the Radiance of the Lightster to start countering anything here as a unit.
[08:16:00] Your doom is likely going to come right as to recover.
[08:16:03] Like, if you're my Kodo here, yeah, you can go a javelin, try and make some plays or something, but...
[08:16:08] It's all on you.
[08:16:10] It's all on you if you get dragged into a teamfight, and the teamfights are really scary for him because
[08:16:14] anything you join, if Laurel's there or he just TP's, X's you, you're likely committed or dead.
[08:16:21] If your team is not gonna come to back you up then you're not really gonna look for aggressive plays here
[08:16:25] So maximize the farm play defensive and force spirit into you the downside is
[08:16:32] The spark your Toro's hat is really scary to play defensive against
[08:16:37] You know like you're basically hunting him. Yeah, you're saying okay. You've had an incredible early game
[08:16:42] Now we're gonna give you the next 15 minutes for free
[08:16:47] Okay, you know that that's empty bait to me
[08:16:51] Even just thinking about how they approach these fights, super reliant on these techies.
[08:16:58] Get the blast off initiation with the attempts in his middle lane, but lul.
[08:17:02] Okay, you took half my health, now I've got more of his kisses, I've got the tankiness
[08:17:06] through the run, boat thrown out, and they've chucked a doom at the tree on top lane just
[08:17:10] as a defensive measure, I guess.
[08:17:12] Now they're smoking up here.
[08:17:13] Look at the follow-up play.
[08:17:15] Well, the high ground is a raw run as a catch-a-match.
[08:17:19] Atlas shot chain frost combo.
[08:17:21] Last of the step back, now I've got the overgrowth binding up the lich and the doom, and Spirit,
[08:17:26] not losing anyone just yet.
[08:17:27] Okay.
[08:17:28] Getting the free beyond lich.
[08:17:29] Yeah, no damage fallup.
[08:17:30] The chain frost did not bounce back to not me.
[08:17:33] He skills Frostblast, turns two of them around.
[08:17:37] Easy fight for Spirit, especially without the doom.
[08:17:39] There's no way Nightfall wants to join this exchange before Radiance.
[08:17:44] too slow of a game right now for Aurora, can't hold the map, and now Big Bad Gatoro, he's
[08:17:49] on your side of the map.
[08:17:52] Just taking down towers.
[08:17:53] Baltimore to top, now into mid, on chase under the C1 and find the techies.
[08:17:58] Just farming mines.
[08:18:00] Yeah, 3D.
[08:18:01] Joel's got another spirit.
[08:18:03] This is getting out of here.
[08:18:04] How do you defend this tower?
[08:18:06] Power shot and run.
[08:18:07] You can't, you don't have radiance.
[08:18:08] You don't have the heroes to do it, you don't have the spell power.
[08:18:12] 500 gold away from Radiance.
[08:18:16] Get a little bit to go.
[08:18:18] Needs it.
[08:18:20] Careful of the minute.
[08:18:22] When you've got Spirit, just taking over your ancient spot.
[08:18:26] Not means a little far forward here.
[08:18:28] Ricardo's going to be very heavy to grab this, but he's Cliff the Wind Ranger.
[08:18:32] I've got that power shot, but now we have to TP to tier one.
[08:18:36] Oh, economic damage.
[08:18:38] At least Aurora finds something in the confines of their corner of the map here.
[08:18:43] But even when you have this coinciding of items for Aurora, right?
[08:18:48] Potential Blink Dagger on Doom, Radiance Life Stealer,
[08:18:51] the Swin Range has finished the Specialist's Array.
[08:18:53] How do you get in there and do something? Because Kunkka has a BKB now.
[08:18:57] It's... Shatterfeins huge.
[08:18:59] He's Walkup and Sister Gazing.
[08:19:02] That's your initiation in this game.
[08:19:04] That doesn't sound great.
[08:19:06] Oh, it's not good.
[08:19:09] Which is why, again, you're forced into this
[08:19:10] really defensive gameplay.
[08:19:15] Let me tell you something, Gary.
[08:19:16] Generally, playing hyper defensive or being forced
[08:19:19] in that position in spirit is not a winning strategy.
[08:19:22] Over the many years we've seen against this game.
[08:19:24] That's so good of playing that wide map.
[08:19:26] Yeah, this is not the team you want to be like,
[08:19:27] hey, let's go late game and just out team fight them
[08:19:30] for behind.
[08:19:31] Nope.
[08:19:32] Good luck, there's some things you could do that against.
[08:19:35] Like it is a viable strategy against some teams where you just feel like they're gonna throw or choke or they overpick for lanes or early game and you can kind of weather the storm.
[08:19:43] To me this is one of those quads.
[08:19:47] They're very good at finding their moments. Checking out the map and I'm looking for these single pick offs, ton of little skirmishes.
[08:19:54] They do have the lifesteal rate, so it's flying out now.
[08:19:57] See if Nightfall decides to get involved in this game, 001 right now, he hasn't died, hasn't killed anything.
[08:20:02] I can definitely have a larger impact here.
[08:20:06] I feel like he's gonna sit in the farm.
[08:20:08] He's probably watching his teammates die.
[08:20:10] Oh my god.
[08:20:11] Windranger has already disappeared.
[08:20:12] Nightfall did TP into this one, but I think he TPed.
[08:20:15] Nightfall did go there.
[08:20:17] He got Nightfalled again.
[08:20:18] He did!
[08:20:19] This first fight, man.
[08:20:21] Nothing to stop it.
[08:20:22] Maybe they can catch Creans on the way out?
[08:20:27] I'm gonna chase with a taser.
[08:20:29] Ruin is too far away and Shadowfiend's straight back to farming.
[08:20:36] Honestly, in a few minutes he's going to be doubling up the net worth of his life stealer
[08:20:41] and he's getting very, very spooky.
[08:20:45] STS is out of control.
[08:20:47] Unstoppable.
[08:20:48] And now you've got collapse.
[08:20:50] It's feeling pretty comfortable to sit in mid.
[08:20:52] Dodgers away from a sticky bomb, doesn't get caught.
[08:20:55] Just a cookie in Facebook to get away as he closes in on that blink dagger on this
[08:21:00] damn fire.
[08:21:01] Yeah, problem you pointed out.
[08:21:02] Well, where's your initiation scheme?
[08:21:04] Trying to make something happen with this Raiden's lifesteal, but all you can do is
[08:21:07] run it up.
[08:21:08] Draft definitely has some flaws that we're seeing.
[08:21:11] So, I come back to this Wind Ranger, mate.
[08:21:15] Right, you shifted it into there.
[08:21:16] Go on the Specialist Array.
[08:21:17] I don't know if there's another way to go.
[08:21:20] If you go to Maelstrom, it's the same story.
[08:21:22] You can't, like, go run away.
[08:21:23] mid-wind ranger can you try to catch that way my personal belief is you have
[08:21:29] to go meal near first one zero the personal bias I understand it's not
[08:21:33] pretty it doesn't feel good but you just have to and get some kills with it and
[08:21:38] let it push you over the little valley otherwise there's too low damage your
[08:21:42] no threat here's the infest doom with the blinks so this is your initiation if
[08:21:45] they find you Toro it is a godsend he's already stepped back those those owned
[08:21:48] to the tree and they find...
[08:21:50] Oh, I'm lucky in a way.
[08:21:51] A kill's a kill!
[08:21:53] I don't even get the bonus one, not me.
[08:21:55] He failed to tumble to the little bridge.
[08:21:57] He's gonna be okay to step back.
[08:22:01] Man, what could have been all of that playing?
[08:22:04] Now you kill your toro there if you find him.
[08:22:09] There's 4-0-1 for him.
[08:22:11] 3-0-3 for Conker.
[08:22:13] Now I'm touched this entire game.
[08:22:15] Those give a little bit of breathing room for my foal.
[08:22:18] Farm through some ancients, now playing as his top lane.
[08:22:22] He's hopefully recovering here.
[08:22:25] Starting to push lanes out a little farther without any threat on him.
[08:22:29] Which will be the case.
[08:22:31] A pretty big investment blind blink dagger on this doom.
[08:22:34] Going for this drums phase blink. You want that aggression.
[08:22:36] You want my pickoffs on key targets.
[08:22:39] Of course he's going to go back into the hand of Minus.
[08:22:42] I have one in something big there and I just don't get it.
[08:22:46] It's kind of funny watching this do him like he...
[08:22:49] I guess the splash attack from the dragon?
[08:22:52] But he took greedy enchantment.
[08:22:56] Just doing no damage?
[08:22:57] Yes, he's like cleaning through camps, but really slowly.
[08:23:02] He's got the five, at least.
[08:23:04] I feel it down.
[08:23:05] This is one of the instances where greedy is a negative GPM.
[08:23:09] There's no way 75 GPM outweighs having the extra damage here when you have clean
[08:23:17] So I don't know if I agree with this from WS. Seems a little sus
[08:23:21] I don't know who to trust. Do I trust you?
[08:23:24] XBG or WET? You got more letters in your name. I think I trust you a little bit more
[08:23:30] I'm gonna decline to answer that question
[08:23:33] You were also sitting next to me, so I don't want to get punched.
[08:23:38] No, I'd never punch you Gary. I would just poison you.
[08:23:42] In the feelings, if they poisoned me. That's why I'm feeling a little off today.
[08:23:46] Yeah, if I want to kill you Gary, you would never know.
[08:23:49] Something in the water.
[08:23:51] Big damage coming out from the lights over there.
[08:23:54] Lich, down on the low ground.
[08:23:57] All the way back home.
[08:23:59] You reminded me of that beachy game from yesterday.
[08:24:02] The lich just camped at the gate until something happens.
[08:24:05] Except it was not a good outcome for him.
[08:24:07] That's a good outcome.
[08:24:08] That's what we're trying to do.
[08:24:09] Now something?
[08:24:12] I'm just going to start swarming the four-man smoke.
[08:24:16] And every time they've moved, they've connected on a core.
[08:24:19] They plop mines here.
[08:24:21] Nobody pinged it.
[08:24:22] It gets drawn now.
[08:24:25] So Aurora should know where this smoke is heading.
[08:24:27] It's another mind that instantly gets pinged, so they 100% know. Spirit also know they know.
[08:24:33] But they can use that against them. They could potentially just roach here.
[08:24:37] Or just run up the hill, that's when it's little bold.
[08:24:40] The Klaxons are blaring, my god. The horns are sounding.
[08:24:44] I know it's coming.
[08:24:45] Techies might still get picked up here though.
[08:24:47] Lifted back into the snap bar and Kunkka, dragged in.
[08:24:50] And the title they even collapsed.
[08:24:53] Thanks to Kill.
[08:24:54] Janice successful.
[08:24:55] somebody had to take it I don't know if they had to take it but they
[08:25:00] take it straight to the Rochon anyway
[08:25:06] yeah it's got a it's got almost 300 CS in point
[08:25:12] it's a GPM wait huh it's a casual 6.20 here
[08:25:18] He's pretty good!
[08:25:20] Even holding a great healing load, just...
[08:25:22] I've got tons of things to play with.
[08:25:24] And he just gambled up.
[08:25:26] This game's all spent too fast, he's running out of slots.
[08:25:28] All these cheap farming items.
[08:25:30] Gonna have to start upgrading some stuff here.
[08:25:34] And there's the snapfire as well.
[08:25:36] Sack in place in the net worth.
[08:25:37] Got that blink dagger, switched into the yashakaya.
[08:25:40] And then he's looking for the shiversguard.
[08:25:42] For that chasm stone.
[08:25:44] He's just flying for the greater AoE.
[08:25:48] That's not far as they picked up that shard pretty early on.
[08:25:52] They're gonna have something here for Aurora though, BKB for Doom.
[08:25:56] So they've got BKB, Rage, BKB on their three cores.
[08:26:00] The triple BKB timing.
[08:26:03] They can triple nightfall out, but they have to.
[08:26:05] They might have to.
[08:26:07] As soon as you get X mark, they are running out here.
[08:26:12] There's overgrowth though, so if you pressed your BKB too early on,
[08:26:16] It is all about the jump, getting some stuff done in that interval.
[08:26:21] Spirit can be low damage during this triple B-vote immunity.
[08:26:24] If you can find some squishy targets or take down the snapfire, it's kind of ideal.
[08:26:29] Triumph dusted up and immediately jumped on him.
[08:26:32] He gets Cookie's Ford into the middle of them and has to overgrowth into Kisses.
[08:26:36] And now Shadowfiend can unload the damage.
[08:26:38] Kaoru is already being blown up.
[08:26:40] And the Doom had to BKB.
[08:26:43] I still get a product though, they lifted him forward with a Rubik's Shard.
[08:26:47] Down goes WS, Hengie's planting some mines, but there's Shanafina, now the Kunkka arriving!
[08:26:52] Takes them down!
[08:26:53] How's this guy not dead?
[08:26:54] What I don't know!
[08:26:55] I think he's just still in his pockets, Chainfrost gets dodged out.
[08:26:58] There's the rum.
[08:27:01] God damn you Admiral's rum here.
[08:27:03] There's the X-Mok TPM as well.
[08:27:05] Keep the push going.
[08:27:09] He'll be a little bit, but honestly not that much, because the rum was still ticking down.
[08:27:13] Enough to keep going though, has the living armor on top of it?
[08:27:17] There's another BKB force.
[08:27:19] Not me, he's got balls of steel.
[08:27:21] Dive straight on the Windranger and now this BKB is going to be timed on the X-Mark Torrent.
[08:27:26] Very well executed again by Spirit.
[08:27:28] Keep beating.
[08:27:30] I just want him to play so crisp.
[08:27:33] The lane slopes fade off, the early movements have been good, and Aurora just doesn't define any way.
[08:27:39] There's fucking a quicksand.
[08:27:40] And I really messed up this draft, and it shows the whole game plan for a war.
[08:27:45] It just fell off and just struggling to find anything with this lineup though,
[08:27:48] it was predicated on having to wait for a early game.
[08:27:51] So you don't want to just beat any of this over, bro.
[08:27:53] It's like, okay, well, wait it out, see what comes, and Shadowfiend gets lifted into you.
[08:27:57] Can't believe you killed him with that last hit. He like, high rolled it, fucked the hill too.
[08:28:01] And that's the thing, you get chained.
[08:28:03] Frostbite undermines Undertower, and you just walk it off.
[08:28:07] Admiral's rum, forming a shield. Doing some work there.
[08:28:14] Make some sleep at Anki. And have a look at another tier 2. 26 minutes in.
[08:28:21] And we're already at our top. Wasted no time to this one.
[08:28:26] Quite often we see this post-agist kinda just sit back and farm.
[08:28:29] Get A tier 1. Kill off some neutral camps. Get your farm going, but this has just been a cruise for Team Spirit.
[08:28:36] for Team Spirit. And they can gather up again. They've got greenlights across the board,
[08:28:42] as well as though they've got these massively long cooldown alties.
[08:28:50] Playing through top. You're going to hit high ground here? I think so.
[08:28:53] Let's burst Aegis. I was going to say, I don't think I've seen an Aegis be this
[08:28:57] successful in a long time. This is a lot of pressure.
[08:28:59] Here we go!
[08:29:01] Ah, attack speed!
[08:29:03] WS has jumped in here with the congregations of the deep!
[08:29:06] And he's going to get pushed back and forced to BKB!
[08:29:09] It's been a three-tap already, half health though!
[08:29:12] It's kind of a sick lift, he dropped the catapult on him.
[08:29:15] Gets a stolen shackle as well now.
[08:29:19] So looking for the stolen shackle?
[08:29:21] Attempted it!
[08:29:23] Nobby has got some confidence, he needs out of the cracking tournament.
[08:29:26] I love this guy, please.
[08:29:27] He's just fearless.
[08:29:30] And in the 28th minute, we've got the first ladybarracks falling.
[08:29:33] The lift had already been expended, so no way of protecting it.
[08:29:36] And there's potential here to go midge because that creep wave has been shoved in.
[08:29:40] He interacts at 27 minutes to first ages here.
[08:29:45] Brutal stuff for Aurora.
[08:29:46] Just watching Nightfall trying to farm up anything he can get his hands on.
[08:29:51] I think they can then match up wise against a Shadowfiend Trion.
[08:29:54] It's not guaranteed at all.
[08:29:56] There's so much survivability in this lineup.
[08:29:58] I think one of the weaknesses of Spirit Straft is they can lack a little bit of damage.
[08:30:02] You know, a Snapfire is a rougher game.
[08:30:04] Kunka can be low damage, Treet can be low damage.
[08:30:06] Maybe you don't get the best spell steal, but when your SF and Snap are having this good of a game,
[08:30:11] you don't lack the damage, then the survivability becomes a problem.
[08:30:14] These heroes are getting solo-crested, they're getting living armor, they're getting healed.
[08:30:16] You have to fight through Overgrowth.
[08:30:18] There's a boat coming through, there's Admiral Room on top of it.
[08:30:21] You have the Snapfire stats adding up.
[08:30:23] It's just a nightmare trying to kill anybody.
[08:30:25] lift throwback and you're pretty much all single target in this planet all three
[08:30:32] of your cores have to just go on one dude and try and burst him down
[08:30:37] I remember back in the day when Antemade was like the carry we quite often talk
[08:30:42] about creeps permanent and 10xing getting 10 last hit per minute yeah I know
[08:30:47] things like inflated and changed the game's different but 374 29
[08:30:54] It's actually crazy.
[08:30:56] That's quite a...
[08:30:58] The light stealer is not far behind though.
[08:31:02] But the thing is the light stealer has only been hitting creeps this game.
[08:31:06] This SF, taking Roshan, taking six towers, he took the lane of Rax,
[08:31:11] he's joined a lot of the fights right now.
[08:31:13] He has this and he's been incredibly active in the fall.
[08:31:16] He's 6-0-2.
[08:31:17] Well you're less than it was 1-0-2.
[08:31:20] and log and just insta-clear the wave that was being pushed in by Aurora
[08:31:24] and Xmark himself back to the rest of his squad.
[08:31:27] Spirit, I'm solving much more of the map.
[08:31:31] They are pretty spread right now though.
[08:31:34] Sat with two heroes mid, two heroes moving to top, so they're trying to reclaim a bit of land
[08:31:38] as Aurora did get out there and push one of these lanes in.
[08:31:41] And Aurora are closest to the audience.
[08:31:43] If they can get to the AC, they can have it actually.
[08:31:46] Actually, Shiva's on the Doom, fairly close as well.
[08:31:49] Those are two big armor items in this game.
[08:31:52] Helps you commit into the fight.
[08:31:54] Lasts a little bit longer.
[08:31:56] Still worried about the Wind Ranger, but I think that's just life here.
[08:31:59] You have something to fight back with.
[08:32:01] This is a nice timing for Night Vault.
[08:32:03] You can get a fight where you get two Rages Off or Rage Infest Rage, or if you're going
[08:32:10] to start the fight by infesting Doom on the Jump Life you see, land on a big core target,
[08:32:15] Do you remember what the life surge is, cheese, the pound, forced with awkward spells out my sphere early?
[08:32:20] I can see it going okay.
[08:32:22] It's not going to be easy, but it's doable.
[08:32:24] That is the uphill battle, right? It's finding spirit and breaking that formation.
[08:32:27] Yeah, it's really tough when you've lost so much map in your early game.
[08:32:30] And you just know that Kunker and Trion are going to be up in the front.
[08:32:33] You might even have to break past and not be moving.
[08:32:35] I could both snap an asset after playing from fog.
[08:32:37] For sure, as Trion is a big problem.
[08:32:39] He's really tanky, and you don't want to throw spells on him, you know?
[08:32:43] Do we have a gem yet?
[08:32:45] I don't think so.
[08:32:46] There's no way they can afford a gem.
[08:32:48] Everyone's got dust.
[08:32:50] Bar nightfall.
[08:32:51] So they've got something to try and find him.
[08:32:53] But now we've got lads on the tree and so even more amping.
[08:32:56] He's really far for a tree.
[08:32:59] W utility items up this early.
[08:33:02] Feels really good.
[08:33:04] Doesn't even have to shard yet.
[08:33:06] Still going to the blink.
[08:33:07] He's just been hunting some of the split push heroes here.
[08:33:09] If you find them, you just track them with an overgrowth.
[08:33:11] in your back pocket, no way to TP out.
[08:33:13] What kind of fruit grows on this tree?
[08:33:16] Is it a peach tree?
[08:33:19] What's a yield like?
[08:33:23] You're thinking real hard.
[08:33:24] Maybe it's a bunny tree.
[08:33:26] Oh, yeah.
[08:33:27] Definitely in this game.
[08:33:28] You know it's a real plant.
[08:33:29] Yeah, it's got the little kind of succulent leaves.
[08:33:34] They group them.
[08:33:35] They bump some two or three when they grow together.
[08:33:37] They look like succulent leaves.
[08:33:38] I don't know if they actually are.
[08:33:39] actually it's a funny little squidgey
[08:33:43] this is a conversation absolutely nobody
[08:33:47] I guarantee you the least interesting
[08:33:53] conversation ever had in a Dota cast
[08:33:55] I was really invested in a genius fight
[08:33:58] okay here's the fight I got the jump in on the law but guess what the BKB and
[08:34:01] now Kira is getting turned on
[08:34:03] Shackleshot yet to roll in the back but the title wave dragged a legend of death
[08:34:07] Once again, meeting his maker.
[08:34:09] And now chasing.
[08:34:10] Oh, but it collapsed as a go on the Windranger Makoto.
[08:34:13] I mean, what the heck did he do before the overgrowth?
[08:34:15] Right, they infested out WS Nightfall.
[08:34:17] Trying to do me a favor, but the damage from this Shatterfinger is too much.
[08:34:20] As the F delivers, Nightfall standing and running forward onto SF.
[08:34:24] But it was from not me.
[08:34:25] Body ball collapsed, the least mirror forward down.
[08:34:28] Nightfall lifted up into the kisses of Baltimore.
[08:34:31] Lava lands on his head and it's a five man.
[08:34:34] Why?
[08:34:35] I'll do that side.
[08:34:36] I don't know if that's it from a theory standpoint, but that feels like it's it from the morale standpoint
[08:34:41] You jump in with a doobie don't even pop out cuz his first go just looks so bad
[08:34:45] Your wind ranger gets melted by double cookie shot from collapse just has his number
[08:34:50] Then you do get the doom connection on the yes up, but he's just too big and bad to give a damn
[08:34:55] Rubik's body blocking your life stealer in the back. Yeah, that's the point where you're getting body blocked by a Rubik
[08:35:00] Get me out of here. That's just disgusting
[08:35:02] not enjoyable my fall gets put on the naughty step still there for 30 seconds
[08:35:10] forced to watch his face get destroyed such a girly mkb2
[08:35:17] prohibits so much of movement in the fights from the winter ranger slices
[08:35:22] through this radiance is it double counter like one item it's great and he
[08:35:26] can just go feel full damage here because again you have tree behind you
[08:35:29] with flat solar living armor you have the abral room nice hyper carry line up
[08:35:35] so scary when they have the utility behind them you don't even pop out
[08:35:38] because you get the cook-a-meek of you that's nice but now you have to reset
[08:35:42] someone else to get dragged in
[08:35:46] the spear get to keep the formation double cookie on top of the winter
[08:35:50] Rangers just annihilates Makoto yeah I guess the idea jump conquer trying for
[08:35:56] spirit to show some of the heroes so the second wave goes in on them but there's
[08:36:00] just no flinching on spirit you show your guys we kill them no turnaround at
[08:36:07] all they'll go for another attempt though I mean Roshan's nearly dead
[08:36:10] they've got a shot on two in the back Trion can come together your Toro
[08:36:13] killing Roshan but WS gets the edges chain frost coming in now as well
[08:36:17] Shedda been trying to get the kill on this doom and does so successfully
[08:36:20] Lall was found here though and deal with WS as he respawns
[08:36:24] Wreck him wound up and thrown out and there we go a double for the cooker while Mortimer
[08:36:31] Changes in with a cookie not landing doesn't matter not me on a killing spree
[08:36:38] Lincoln's
[08:36:40] Rubik he's so fat. I just say it's over no chance there to attempt
[08:36:44] fail
[08:36:46] Team spirit
[08:36:48] Oh, it's gonna get so right for game one couldn't even killed at the end me at the time for ran out for nightfall
[08:36:53] Well, that was a nice Aegis snatch.
[08:36:55] I mean, Aurora at least tried for the YOLO fights here, you know, instead of just trying to farm the way back to this game, which I think is the right call.
[08:37:02] You never know, maybe you win those, and you least gotta go for it there, and then you get a clutch Aegis snatch.
[08:37:06] I don't feel the fans there, they'll be listening, but I think their whole game plan with this lineup just got completely thrown off with that lane swap.
[08:37:12] It just ruined so many of your lanes, so many of your momentum, ideas about this game, what it's gonna look like when the items are gonna come out,
[08:37:19] And ultimately, it just gets confusing. Your support's up nowhere to go to create pressure. It ends up giving you total absolute GIGA-free farm.
[08:37:26] This is not the guy to give it to, not the hero to give it to. Yeah, that's absolutely a little neutered, but this hero with that much network that's still just gonna destroy almost anybody.
[08:37:33] It doesn't matter what the carry matchup is. He just ran away with it, man. Really impressive performance.
[08:37:38] It doesn't feel like that's Windrangers. The big hero of Mikoto either. Sometimes it does struggle with his hero pool. You know, I love to see him on the Spirit and stuff like that.
[08:37:46] Having that hero shift in towards mid because you thought you had that lane matchup victory in the draft
[08:37:52] It's just one of those unfortunate scenarios where the lane swap
[08:37:56] It doesn't just kill one of the matchups you were trying to force it kills two. Yeah, that's like two brutal
[08:38:01] Sometimes you can play through it. Oh, they got us on this lane
[08:38:04] Yeah, the other lanes like still okay, or we have a favorite there
[08:38:07] You know they have to sacrifice lane spirit had to sacrifice nothing for this one
[08:38:10] It was only benefit and that is just a really tough position to be and then a difficult start at the beginning
[08:38:16] Well, you're chasing his Rubik, don't get the kill, he's still welcome, demolishes your lane as well.
[08:38:19] Team Spirit, just slice the victory, take game one.
[08:38:24] When it rains, it pours for poor Aurora.
[08:38:27] They thought that they had the solution to this last 23rd to pick Kanka.
[08:38:32] It's like, alright, what do you think about a little life stealer?
[08:38:35] Spirit says, you absolute buffoons!
[08:38:38] Yeah, I'm standing the snapfire off lane, the Kanka's mid.
[08:38:42] And then everyone was like, okay, I don't know what items to buy.
[08:38:47] What the hell is going on with the items this game across?
[08:38:49] They nailed it. It's like a little pub experiment that did work out amazingly for them.
[08:38:55] Kanka from the mid lane, BKB into nullifier, remove the taser, remove Lich's armor, remove Windrun as well.
[08:39:01] So, quite a lot of good things. And from the off lane, Yashakaya, Facebook's Yashakaya.
[08:39:06] You're just doing that on the snapfire.
[08:39:08] Yeah, blink dagger short. This is a type of a build that you want to have it sounds like very published in a terms of like
[08:39:15] You're having a lot of fun with this
[08:39:16] He also have a chasm stone extra bit of a you know aoe and his spells work real nicely
[08:39:22] Oh, he was very in I told you I know how to play this Conker. Why are you doubting me?
[08:39:28] You did play it a lot back in the day, but on the other hand
[08:39:32] Specialists array mid-windrunner. What the hell is that Brian? Yeah, I mean
[08:39:37] I don't I feel like what the difference here is is that yeah, the cunca build was unique like BKB in the Shadowblade nullfire
[08:39:44] The the snapfire build is unique from the off lane, but they had like clear roles in the game
[08:39:50] I don't know what winrangers role in that game was like when you go to the specialist where is this swap
[08:39:56] She got swap. He's like I got you with the life sealer not really
[08:40:01] I mean we were talking about like okay. Why did they pick doom?
[08:40:03] We know that Largo's good against Offlane, or Offlane Largo's good against carry Windranger and Doom shuts down Largo
[08:40:10] So they were kind of like block picking
[08:40:13] Team spirits go to hero against Windranger, which makes sense
[08:40:17] But then every time we've seen Sapphire we're like, okay
[08:40:19] People put a range to your mid because that's what you have to do against Sapphire and then you have no playmaker in the mid
[08:40:26] So you need a playmaker in the offlane
[08:40:27] So then they pick Doom and they're like, oh well we now need to swap the Windranger to mid
[08:40:31] We have that play make no playmaker. She doesn't really make plays compared to like a storm or something
[08:40:35] And let's just pick a life stealer like another hero that just doesn't move
[08:40:39] And I guess it's just sad to watch teams lose this way because it's like it's just 15 minutes in
[08:40:44] Team spirits walking at you. You're getting rolled. You have no place. It is difficult
[08:40:47] I mean the way safe lane started as well is you have Yattaro killing WS
[08:40:53] And then it's a difficult lane like you can't really match up against this
[08:40:57] This is a chain protector plus a ranged turret.
[08:41:00] This turret deals a lot of damage, and because he has such a good laning stage, you see 7.5
[08:41:05] minutes in, he's rotating for the rune, 8 minutes actually, Kunkka's there.
[08:41:10] I'm a little surprised that Aurora decided to take this fight, that they're bringing
[08:41:14] in numbers, 4 of them, which makes the game kind of open.
[08:41:18] They killed the tower as well, relatively early in the mid lane, and then they have
[08:41:21] this whole area of the map where you can farm.
[08:41:24] Also, we've seen this Doom being used on Chain Protector.
[08:41:28] He runs away, one time he dies, then uses in Shadowfiend.
[08:41:31] He runs away, so it didn't really get the full value out of the hero.
[08:41:34] I've been extremely impressed with how well Yatoru and Ruu seem to be laning together.
[08:41:40] It feels like they've been playing on the same lane for a long time,
[08:41:43] and that's not the case. It's been such a natural transition.
[08:41:46] And not me. Every time I watch him, he is doing his job and then some.
[08:41:52] Like in this game, I bring him up because what he was doing was a lot more subtle than, you know, his flashy steels and things like that, but on that bot lane, he never overextended.
[08:42:00] This play in particular is just cool, right? Like, your SF is in danger of being killed by the doom and the lifesteal.
[08:42:06] He just body blocks him, and he gets out, and the guitarist is able to turn it here.
[08:42:11] And again, these are subtle moves that he's making. Even the fight near Roshan, he's like hiding in the pit, using the pit's vision, waiting to telekinesis, but he, like, this guy's got it.
[08:42:21] Yeah, this whole tournament, I was watching, I think, Falk...
[08:42:23] I mean, it's not a surprise to me.
[08:42:25] Falkans and Team Spirit look like the two cleanest teams across every series I've watched.
[08:42:29] They just look very impressive.
[08:42:31] I feel like for Falkans, they look unbeatable.
[08:42:34] Like, just, they bring out what they normally pick and you can't beat it.
[08:42:37] With Team Spirit, they just look like they're in like a flow state.
[08:42:39] Like, I don't know, like, you just don't see teams body blocking with Rubik.
[08:42:43] That's a perfect example.
[08:42:44] It's... I also like the fact, because Tsunami, you talked about the swap that they did from the mid lane,
[08:42:49] to the offlane. I don't think many teams can make this work, but because these two specific heroes,
[08:42:55] they have a lot of synergy together. If it's some mid-range offlaner, you can't really do that.
[08:43:00] Because you have this 1-2 combo with the Xmark and the Kisses, you can pretty much kill
[08:43:04] any hero in the game, pre-BKB, and he doesn't have any defense. They have nothing to push him away,
[08:43:11] no glimmer cape whatsoever, and then suck it, Nightfall. In the end, he gets a bit of his
[08:43:16] He takes his own medicine, BKB TP out, they have nothing to actually stop it, and a pretty
[08:43:22] easy game for Spirit.
[08:43:23] And speaking of Nightfall, I really think it's key for Aurora to have Nightfall and
[08:43:29] a hero that joins fights early and does something.
[08:43:32] And while it was a good life stealer game on paper, it couldn't function in the same
[08:43:37] way because there is nobody on his team playmaking, the Windranger from the Midlane, Doom from
[08:43:42] the Offlane, life stealer needing to farm.
[08:43:45] If nobody on this team is able to make moves and do something, then they just fall apart.
[08:43:49] So I don't want to see something like this Fortnite fall next game.
[08:43:53] Yeah, I feel like a lack of a bigger picture situation as Neil, you know, I'd give us,
[08:43:58] is that a part of a bigger picture, those small pieces right there?
[08:44:00] No, these are two different shades of blue.
[08:44:02] I did not.
[08:44:03] Wait for it.
[08:44:04] Oh, I see it now.
[08:44:07] Can you though?
[08:44:08] I can see it.
[08:44:09] You can.
[08:44:10] The top one's a bit dark.
[08:44:11] Well, now just imagine 5,000 of these, and having to differentiate between all this.
[08:44:18] Okay, now my eyes would hurt.
[08:44:19] Correct.
[08:44:20] Yeah.
[08:44:20] Steve worked on that for five hours.
[08:44:22] She did.
[08:44:23] We had the puzzle, season 27, that we also struggled with.
[08:44:27] Yeah, it was like a giant background of different shades of brown.
[08:44:30] Yeah.
[08:44:31] And we had to differentiate between, but at least the pieces fit together.
[08:44:35] But you know, some people look at Dota this way.
[08:44:37] They see 127 different heroes, 4 different spells, Agnes, Shards, Ceptors, Formerly, Facets.
[08:44:43] You know how many different combinations you have to get in your head for that?
[08:44:46] That's why what are these professional guys that we called them, Lacoste?
[08:44:50] Dr. Neustadtl.
[08:44:51] No, no, no, no.
[08:44:52] Professional e-gamer.
[08:44:53] He actually played for Switzerland.
[08:44:54] He did.
[08:44:55] In Nations Cup, back in 1996.
[08:44:57] He's coaching this time.
[08:44:58] He's coaching this year?
[08:44:59] Yeah, okay.
[08:45:00] That's what I hear.
[08:45:01] That's the type of prowess that's necessary to master this game.
[08:45:05] What were you talking about again?
[08:45:08] It was not Dr. Neustuddle.
[08:45:10] Did you know that these maybe could be like the shades of Aurora's logo?
[08:45:15] They changed the colors.
[08:45:17] They have like more tealish blue now.
[08:45:19] They do.
[08:45:20] Yeah.
[08:45:21] They didn't work out for them in this one.
[08:45:23] Don't cricket man.
[08:45:24] Those are good crickets.
[08:45:26] Crickets of applause.
[08:45:28] Crickets of approval.
[08:45:31] Disappointment.
[08:45:32] Yeah, that's a disappointment for me.
[08:45:36] How would you like them to re-correct things other than letting Nightfall be more active?
[08:45:41] Or is that simply all they need to do, given the semi-carrier?
[08:45:45] I think it also just depends on Nikora's hero.
[08:45:48] I think that Doom potentially could have been okay if you have something like Puck,
[08:45:52] which is going to get banned every game, from the mid lane.
[08:45:54] It's something that doesn't sit back and farm and buy Specialists Array into Dragonlands.
[08:46:00] like that's not gonna do anything for anybody.
[08:46:03] I don't envy the drafter for Aurora because if I'm Team Spirit it's like Yachtro doesn't,
[08:46:09] it can play whatever, Laurel can play whatever, Collapse can be whatever, he's literally a
[08:46:13] snapfire offline in this game and it's like we need to give Makoto puck, we need to give Kory Phoenix,
[08:46:18] you know, we need to give Nightfall a playmaker, it's like yes that's true, these are all like
[08:46:22] their signature styles but I feel like that's not Firepick man, it was just so smart because
[08:46:27] It's like it shuts down Makoto's heroes, and it shuts down Kaori's only hero at the same time.
[08:46:33] Yeah, Kaori didn't feel too comfortable playing this lich, because his main heroes is...
[08:46:39] It's Phoenix, it's Warlock. I don't want to see Warlock ever since I said that they're not picking Warlock anymore,
[08:46:45] because he was listening for sure, and also...
[08:46:47] I think Venomatcher is there, that this hero is playable, but you can tell that, you know,
[08:46:52] some more experienced lich players, he couldn't match this.
[08:46:57] I say it in the green room. I think
[08:47:00] Nightfall or one of like the more veteran players needs to come up to koree
[08:47:03] EWC and ti are a few months away and you are just banned from warlock phoenix and jacquero for the next two months
[08:47:10] What would be the most valuable hero for him to learn? I mean right now?
[08:47:12] It's lich shortly, but like it just doesn't matter man like just anything just step out of there
[08:47:17] You gotta gotta leave your comfort zone for the next few months
[08:47:19] You can come back to it in the big in the big tournaments. You're already qualified after all the other teams have forgotten about it
[08:47:24] Yes, and then they're like oh my god, how do I forget kori's penis literally what a marge it that's true
[08:47:29] That is literally what a marge it
[08:47:31] You gotta put these heroes on cooldown for a little while exactly learn carrot man eat some carrots in the meantime because he's
[08:47:37] Exclusively playing the range heroes. Yeah, but support here support players have archetypes like that
[08:47:43] Sometimes they're the melee brawlers sometimes with the range. I annoy you words
[08:47:46] And carries a ranged I annoy you were hopefully he finds another solution though because right now it seems like
[08:47:52] Spirit have a good read on what Aurora are up to. Let's find out if they can come up with a solution for game number two
[08:53:52] to the grave be the unstoppable
[08:53:56] I'm coming up, I'm coming up unstoppable
[08:54:00] Don't let it down, don't let it down
[08:54:03] We're blowing out of the storm
[08:54:06] I'm coming up, I'm coming up unstoppable
[08:54:11] Welcome back everyone to game number two of Spear vs Aurora.
[08:54:20] Don't show it yet, it's snapfire band, snapfire band?
[08:54:23] Yes.
[08:54:24] Yes.
[08:54:25] They have to 100% back.
[08:54:27] Well done.
[08:54:28] You got lamboozled.
[08:54:29] It is indeed first place band, Aurora, I decided it's too much for them to deal with and they
[08:54:34] take it out along with the Sardar and the Pango spirit and they take out the lone druid
[08:54:38] clockwork, a Mikoto puck, a tiny, and look at a first phase of doom for, I would assume,
[08:54:47] WS, but you know Nightfall, he played a little bit of an FE, you showed it in the Venn diagram.
[08:54:52] He does, he does play it, and I do like this hero conceptually a lot versus Team Spirit.
[08:54:58] The issue is, they're responding with a tree and protector, and they've moved this hero
[08:55:03] up in priority because of how well it's securing the safe lane for Gatoro, so they can't back
[08:55:08] not all of the heroes that will pair like the drows, the FFs, the Marta's, there's always going to be at least one, now it's the Marta left in the pool, um, you might as well just run it on nightfall at this point we'll cause.
[08:55:18] You could, yeah. I also like this chain protector a lot as a response to Doom. What Doom wants to do is Doom won't target, but it also gives you AoE that roots them in place that goes through debuff immunity and then you can run away.
[08:55:35] a very cheap way of dealing with doom coming out from position five you don't
[08:55:40] see that many spells that can actually do that also to be seeing if they're
[08:55:45] gonna be respecting centaur because this hero is kind of anti-doom in a lot of
[08:55:49] ways it's a super strong laner it got buff for some reason maybe I'm a bit
[08:55:53] biased here because I love to play the hero from the offline because it does
[08:55:57] allow you to I can't notice you save your carry as well just so many different
[08:56:04] things that the hero does, it scales so well, it farms extremely quickly, but you can't
[08:56:08] really just put it into the draft, I think, because a lot of the times you'll see Nightfall
[08:56:13] pick this Ursa on 18, so you gotta have that in mind.
[08:56:16] I really like the Timbersaw, Ben, like, they're just assuming if you put the Doom offline,
[08:56:22] like you're kinda screwed anyway, so, like, we're not gonna worry about banning out Nightfall
[08:56:27] heroes and you leave it there, like, we're just assuming you're gonna move it, and banning,
[08:56:32] Timbersaw's not only good against Tree, it's also good against Hoodwink.
[08:56:36] I agree with Mira that there are just a lot of turret heroes for Yachtaro to choose from.
[08:56:42] I like that they delayed his pick.
[08:56:44] I was wondering if you guys know how does Treeant Living Armor work against Doom?
[08:56:51] I assume it would block ticks of Doom, right?
[08:56:53] I assume so.
[08:56:54] So that's like, that's pretty good then, right?
[08:56:57] like there's very few spells in the game that give you EHP against Doom because you get heal,
[08:57:03] right? So it'd only be damage barrier blocks. It'd be like a batten shield and also a tree armor.
[08:57:09] So I just think in theory it's even better than just the laning phase. It's also the...
[08:57:13] Hey, it's pretty similar to Banish. Like Shadow Demon is good, buys you a little bit more time.
[08:57:17] OD, which is... I don't know. I don't think anybody said these two letters together
[08:57:22] throughout this whole tournament. What about Kassus though?
[08:57:24] O.D. Caster, yeah, he's good, O.D. Hero, not as good.
[08:57:29] Only when we're talking about the thousands of pixels, like Nela's right now.
[08:57:34] This is a high-resolution picture I'm working on.
[08:57:37] I mean, our war already, they were like, last game we had Doom,
[08:57:41] but we didn't have anybody to lock people down when they got doomed.
[08:57:44] In this game too, they're like, we're correcting this.
[08:57:47] They go for most likely Mira's Lion,
[08:57:50] but they're gonna secure that disable for themselves,
[08:57:52] while also did I pick a lot of Spirit Heroes potentially.
[08:57:57] Not to tease, not to tease, uh, Mira here, the Mira up there.
[08:58:01] Yeah, the Mira over there.
[08:58:02] Um, I really hope they pick Luna.
[08:58:05] And he's just...
[08:58:06] Do you guys remember this game?
[08:58:07] Were you guys there for that?
[08:58:08] Mira Lyon on the racks when there was a Luna hitting the racks.
[08:58:12] Oh, yes.
[08:58:12] And the Glades literally just killed him.
[08:58:15] He had a pretty sad performance on Lyon, like, a few days back.
[08:58:19] But yeah, the Kaori Phoenix, absolutely no surprise here, I think Team Spirit is going to go for, I mean, what do you guys think for the turret? Is it the Morita? Is it the...
[08:58:33] I think Morita looks good to me. Jara is an option, but he does suffer versus Doom in the long run.
[08:58:40] Is there a, maybe, uh, no, you can't pick Morfling.
[08:58:44] You can buy Ursa as well.
[08:58:45] Phantom Lancer.
[08:58:47] I don't think you pick any melee with tree. I actually think melee is what tree is. It actually griefs the tree really hard, I think.
[08:58:53] You have some options. He played Nature's Prophet. That's one of the best options. Double tree. There it is.
[08:58:59] I think the best item I was about to say prior to this thing is...
[08:59:04] The best item they can buy on Aurora is Qualling Blade.
[08:59:08] Cut down all the trees for Hoodwing. Cut down all the trees for Train Protector as well.
[08:59:12] And now, even get out of Sprout. So, we're gonna see five Qualling Blades on the enemy team.
[08:59:16] You know who has a natural calling blade when he purses the ulti?
[08:59:20] Mars? Why is Mars a dead hero?
[08:59:23] Soaring there if I think get him in. I think after everything.
[08:59:26] Yeah, if you can't take Mars here, that's just tragic versus nature's prophet and giant and hoodwink.
[08:59:32] That's like kind of how the middle works though, right? It's like they're willing to pick this because Mars is out of the game basically.
[08:59:40] I think that's really interesting. It is on paper a near-perfect Mars game. It's not the greatest first storm
[08:59:46] But they already have answers for that with the lion
[08:59:50] Will or will go for something that we've been seeing like the death prophet type heroes the lush racks that pressure mid lane pretty hard
[08:59:57] I actually wouldn't mind something like a lush. Yep. I'm okay with ember as well
[09:00:00] Just to have something cheap that can play the game
[09:00:03] I have this kind of pseudo global presence in a way where you can find this natious prophet always have something
[09:00:10] to play with. A lot of fire damage as well, makes a lot of sense. You have these two heroes,
[09:00:15] we're seeing like the nature on one side and then the fire to burn down all the trees.
[09:00:20] I feel like Storm kind of crashed the party though. He does. Which hero? Storm. Maybe they
[09:00:26] should respond with Zeus. No, it's Zeus actually really bad against Storm.
[09:00:35] I was thinking about how Dota has evolved so much, or how it evolves so much every patch,
[09:00:50] because in the past it would be a free Mars game.
[09:00:53] In the past you'd see the Nature's Prophet and like an invisible hero like Treen and
[09:00:58] you'd go for like Bounty Hunter or Spiritbreaker, but these heroes just don't exist anymore.
[09:01:03] They don't, but there's one hero that I could potentially see if they want to run this Doom
[09:01:09] from the safe lane.
[09:01:10] I think this is one of the better Primal Beast game.
[09:01:15] If this is going to be Nature's Prophet plus Dream Protector lane, I think you'd thrive
[09:01:19] in this lane.
[09:01:20] There's literally nothing that can stop you from going in, and this is one of the worst
[09:01:25] match-up for Nature's Prophet throughout the whole game.
[09:01:27] You can get out of there.
[09:01:28] It's proud that you can easily jump on top of him.
[09:01:32] This is the hero that we talked about prior to the series, because WS kind of cooked pretty
[09:01:38] heavily when they were playing against Navi, and also a bit of a global presence that they
[09:01:42] can follow up on Ember, just would feel real nice to have.
[09:01:46] But I also want to see what the other options are, because I feel like in this one they
[09:01:52] are going to push this Doom into the character role.
[09:01:58] I'd be surprised if they don't ban Primal.
[09:02:00] I think Primal's a great pick here.
[09:02:03] So you think both teams are on the hunt
[09:02:04] for their off-liners right now?
[09:02:05] Yeah, I think that the other thing about Primal
[09:02:08] is I think you kind of have to cut the wave bottom.
[09:02:10] Like, I think you just have to be away from the nature.
[09:02:12] He can TP too, of course.
[09:02:14] But I don't know, like right now,
[09:02:17] they kind of need a guy that like cuts the wave
[09:02:19] and connects to mid, that sort of hero.
[09:02:21] And Primal fits that perfectly.
[09:02:22] I don't know if there's a better option.
[09:02:24] Something like Centaur could work for them,
[09:02:25] but you know, as like a pseudo deny pick.
[09:02:27] for Aurora? Yeah for Aurora.
[09:02:30] I've been trying one of those interesting ones, because if something too spirit would be happy to pick rhythm's lungs too.
[09:02:35] Something to go in with bones, bones to eat.
[09:02:40] I mean, is Act not an option at any point? I'm thinking about a way to deal with this nature's profit later on.
[09:02:47] I think it would really struggle in lane, it would be good in lane.
[09:02:51] I just think that Axe does heavily rely on a good lane phase and there's it's kind of like this back and forth
[09:03:00] Rock-paper-scissors in the time frames of the games with these uh with these turd heroes
[09:03:05] And I think nature's profit trees in a press of enough lane that I'd be scared to pick it myself
[09:03:09] There's also tides and underlords and all of those
[09:03:13] Old-school ones. It's just if you can't pick Mars here. You can never pick him. This is what it feels like to me
[09:03:18] It's a bad hero right now, he just doesn't have the damage.
[09:03:22] I'd be okay with just pick up Centaur here, it's very good against Doom, great disengage
[09:03:27] against Phoenix, I think they were potentially waiting to see where the Doom is gonna go,
[09:03:34] I did mention Centaur relatively early in the draft because of all the heroes that they
[09:03:38] do have, it's a Lotus or Bayer against everything they have, it feels really nice, basically
[09:03:43] you can dispel 5 things from 5 different heroes.
[09:03:47] And later on, you will have the card save, you will have the Stampede save on top of
[09:03:50] that.
[09:03:51] And the card save looked so clutched in yesterday's series too, like, incredibly high value, especially
[09:03:57] now that the axe comes through.
[09:03:59] What about the Underlord Nature's Profit synergy, with the TP giving you, like, damage resistance?
[09:04:05] Oh yeah, it's true, the innate works on that.
[09:04:08] I'd be curious, because I think that Centaur makes sense, and I was just thinking if they
[09:04:11] don't go Centaur, what else would they go?
[09:04:13] I do think Underlord would make fighting easier for them and
[09:04:18] they don't really have utility right now on the side of Team Spirit.
[09:04:20] Like, yeah, like Transkine of utility, but not for team fights.
[09:04:23] He's more utility for like the map.
[09:04:31] They're using all their time.
[09:04:32] What's Collapse whipping out?
[09:04:37] They have a very red draft on Aurora.
[09:04:40] Oh, yes.
[09:04:40] The color is very red.
[09:04:42] Let's go, okay?
[09:04:43] Oh my god.
[09:04:44] Show them that this hero can work.
[09:04:49] Specifically you liked it against the tree heroes.
[09:04:52] Yes, and I'm sure he looked at it and said, this is a great Mars game, they don't want
[09:04:55] to play it all show them.
[09:04:56] How dare you!
[09:04:57] I'll show them!
[09:04:58] I'll destroy my teammates' trees instead!
[09:05:00] I think they wanted to have an offlaner that buys into Yulceptor as well, playing against
[09:05:06] Axe, it's a pseudo save against his blink initiation prior to BKB. It feels really nice. It's an extra bit of a protection for Yotaro or Lara, whoever gets initiated on.
[09:05:17] I think Aurora did a good job covering a lot of mistakes that they did have in this draft number one. This draft kind of plays itself out.
[09:05:27] Casem Spells, it's very simple, very easy, still favoring Team Spirit in this one.
[09:05:33] But also, Mars is going to be the X-Factor for me, because I feel like this hero has been almost completely ruined.
[09:05:39] But if someone can make it work, we saw Mars play it earlier today.
[09:05:43] It looked terrible, but there was one game before that where he looked extremely good still.
[09:05:47] And now we're going to have to see Collapse, which I'm very excited about.
[09:05:50] Yeah, honestly, Mars, to me, in this game, feels like we need a hero to just stun and go in.
[09:05:55] And then the ULZ that you mentioned is really quite a nice point.
[09:05:58] But I do feel like he could have made that point with other heroes too.
[09:06:01] It just, sometimes the Mars calls, you just have to play it, you know?
[09:06:05] It's not the best hero in terms of like, hero to hero matchups
[09:06:09] and how much you can get from the Bulwark.
[09:06:11] But the aggression is there, you know you're going to have this winning lane from Nature's Prophet,
[09:06:15] you know you're going to have a storm initiation.
[09:06:17] Just have an alpha here that will also skirmish with you.
[09:06:19] Yeah, I think Team Spirit's a better team.
[09:06:22] But I do think Aurora set themselves up for a much better more competitive game in game 2
[09:06:26] So I think they've got a shot in this one
[09:06:28] I'm all eyes are on my eyes are on WS's lane because I think Axe is gonna have a really powerful game if he gets there
[09:06:34] But I am concerned that he's gonna be like booted into his own the two camps behind his tier 1 tower at like level 5
[09:06:41] Because the the presence from the tree and chasing you down and the nation's profit-teeping and it's quite hard to deal with so
[09:06:47] So, eyes on WS this game, I think he's in for a redemption after getting thrown into
[09:06:51] a pretty unfair lane last game.
[09:06:53] And I just think Makoto has a great game, this game too, on that Ember Spirit.
[09:06:58] He's gonna look night and day different from game one.
[09:07:01] This is utterly mind-numbing.
[09:07:05] I think you have a job to do, Tanami.
[09:07:10] The time is ticking.
[09:07:13] Game number two with Garrison, SVJ.
[09:07:31] My goodness, I'll store Earth and Spire to eat my cold!
[09:07:35] It is a game two, we've got plenty here of elemental business going on.
[09:07:40] bit of agriculture from Team Spirit, and it's Prophet Trium, the storm to drizzle
[09:07:45] the rain over their crops. Mars! I mean, he's the god of violence, war, and
[09:07:50] agricultural fertility, but Aurora, they bought the fire and the flames to burn it all down.
[09:07:55] Very nice color-coded draft. Very solid, don't worry. You're right. Aurora here for
[09:08:02] pure destruction. They are calling for the fire and the flames.
[09:08:07] they can doubt your aggression. Dragon Force has arrived.
[09:08:13] So, much better setup for Aurora in this game too. I like to draft a lot more, add more
[09:08:18] pieces to play with, lower cooldowns, laning setup looks a lot more solid, or just easy
[09:08:24] ways to catch some heroes and punish spirit around the map and in the team fights they have
[09:08:27] initiation. It's time quite nice when you're playing with the Doom, so you don't have to just jump
[09:08:33] don't been in doom somebody head-on and the effects acts just badass hero man
[09:08:40] sometimes that counts for a lot just feels good looking at dude just confident
[09:08:48] he's gonna be aura falling down here oh hell yeah it's a tree in the nature's
[09:08:54] puppet potentially a top lane kind of decides or gets decided by how these
[09:08:59] early weights go it's the fearing get a lot of extra harassment with the tree
[09:09:03] plus the tree getting some leashes hits in.
[09:09:05] I can see WS having a rough time,
[09:09:07] but if he gets to the fast-band guard,
[09:09:09] he's gonna be cruising in.
[09:09:10] He does have a good match against the Toro
[09:09:11] for the rest of the game with the blade mail call.
[09:09:13] There's nothing that really prevents it in this game
[09:09:15] other than maybe some clutch jewels,
[09:09:17] arenas, nonsense later on.
[09:09:20] Come on, all the trees.
[09:09:22] Here.
[09:09:25] Taking some damage.
[09:09:26] Let's have WS, the Tunges come through.
[09:09:28] These are efficient trees, that's good though.
[09:09:31] I want to get value out of the tree as early as possible.
[09:09:33] Just imagine a tree and it could stay invisible when he's next to a tree.
[09:09:38] Balance? Are you sure?
[09:09:39] Grow into a tree.
[09:09:41] Oh, Steve Ols.
[09:09:42] Yeah, just use the tree and farm it out here.
[09:09:44] Give him some rare candy.
[09:09:46] Thanos calling for the Mars.
[09:09:48] They did pick the Mars.
[09:09:51] I'm quite sad though.
[09:09:53] You don't like Mars?
[09:09:54] No, I hate this hero right now.
[09:09:56] Because he sucks, or because...
[09:09:58] Yeah, I...
[09:09:59] Ideologically disagree with him?
[09:10:00] My feel is that the hero is in a very weak spot, he got hit by a lot of nerfs to his spells, then Sol Ring just kind of destroyed him and he has to go early blink.
[09:10:08] Or Eul's, which are both, it might be in pretty weak first lightings in this meta.
[09:10:13] Generally this is a scaling farm meta, play the map, push waves more efficiently, that's how fat you tore it out last game.
[09:10:20] Like if you're just trying to blink and find people, it's so difficult.
[09:10:22] The second it goes wrong, it goes really wrong.
[09:10:25] Maybe Collab's has some hidden build up his sleeve here. He's one of the best Mars players of all time. Top two with ATF for sure.
[09:10:32] Yeah.
[09:10:33] So if you're gonna trust this hero in someone's hands, it's definitely his.
[09:10:36] I just doubt this hero. I don't doubt he might doubt the hero.
[09:10:38] Okay.
[09:10:39] That'd be sad.
[09:10:40] Because other offlaners are buying Blade Mail, Radiance, Auras, all these cool things, or have impacts.
[09:10:46] He just doesn't.
[09:10:47] He's against a Nightfall Doom.
[09:10:49] You do keep him on this doom carry so he can actually join fight quite early on alongside of Phoenix
[09:10:55] He also just can't really jungle earlier do stacks
[09:10:58] Yeah, so if the lane doesn't go well this hero becomes a mega liability compared to this axe, you know this axe
[09:11:05] You go see her he has a rough lane which he's not he's cruising, but let's say his lane is rough
[09:11:08] You can stack for him you can go clear he can recover the game his
[09:11:12] Itemization helps him do those stacks it helps him recover. So it's very natural
[09:11:15] Mars, you're just... you're out there, brother. You gotta buy stats, you gotta out see us enemy carry, and you gotta dominate that way.
[09:11:23] Not a lot of players have been able to do it in the current meta, though.
[09:11:26] He's having a pretty good start to lane phase here. Everybody kind of finding CS.
[09:11:32] Everybody but that Nager's profile is a little down in the dumps.
[09:11:37] Oh, he's struggling. He's struggling down here.
[09:11:39] Though he did put a lot of raps in early with the Treen, so...
[09:11:43] Maybe the mic broke out too little bit.
[09:11:45] Yeah, it's possible. There's been a bit of lane dragging, a bit of backstabbing from this lion and axe.
[09:11:50] That's been annoying.
[09:11:53] 5-4.
[09:11:55] Just in the Fern of Blade, it claps. We need to contribute back.
[09:11:58] Well, mid lane, Makoto, perhaps the fairy fire.
[09:12:01] I used to feed up region-wise.
[09:12:03] I was doing okay on this deaster, but now he's kinda getting so involved in the creeps.
[09:12:07] Power of the Spore Spirit.
[09:12:09] 3-0. There's your first blood.
[09:12:11] He used the fairy fire, still died. Mira draws it.
[09:12:14] That is huge for WS. He's going to have a free vanguard here. He's not getting harassed on early waves, which means he is going to cruise.
[09:12:21] You can even just let him creep cut after that vanguard comes out. He's just invincible against his lane.
[09:12:25] He's going to give up for a lot of space in this game, especially for Mira.
[09:12:29] If he wants to rotate and to mid into top, look for that cheeky storm kill early on or just try laying his Mars room in his day.
[09:12:35] He has the flex ability to do that. He can also just staff to accelerate the axe even further.
[09:12:40] You can continue a lane pull and play the lane straight up if you think you can chain kill him.
[09:12:45] It's really nice having this type of mobility early on as support.
[09:12:50] Hopefully, Mira will make the most of it. Probably the most flexibility that's really good.
[09:12:54] So many different pathways. There's a stark contrast to what you're thinking about this Mars.
[09:12:58] Great. Kind of got to go all in on one file, one item.
[09:13:02] And not me as hoodwink.
[09:13:04] Lane in that tall lane, nothing the Mars could do to help him.
[09:13:07] Makoto is still getting beaten up though.
[09:13:10] Oh, he kinda walked back and forth. That was awkward.
[09:13:13] Laurel, you need one more hit.
[09:13:15] I'm not gonna find it, but Collapsus is gonna get killed right up top.
[09:13:18] Dang, what a monster.
[09:13:19] Early double bracer boots, painting off here.
[09:13:22] Gonna buy us out.
[09:13:23] He's getting the job done with this Mars, that's for sure.
[09:13:26] What's happening mid is illegal right now, Laurel.
[09:13:28] He's just taking Makoto straight to the airport here.
[09:13:33] Straight down the lower bracket.
[09:13:35] How many things are going?
[09:13:39] Last storm is excited to behold very confident in this hero to just start things
[09:13:44] Yes, that level six will be rotating moving to side lanes. We're the CS leader though 40 on this axe
[09:13:49] No, they're treants, but
[09:13:51] You know that kill he's make a fat you're in his big card
[09:13:54] You're not touching you click him a few times realize hang on a second ball mid lane while not level six yet
[09:13:59] So with that mirror rotation, there it is
[09:14:01] Leave the ax alone all the product of what happened on this bottom lane very nice rotation from here
[09:14:06] It's after what you're looking for this early game is a pop an offer or a
[09:14:11] How does this affect the next profit then because we used to see this furan
[09:14:15] TP around by spirit vessel even from a carry roll play very actively
[09:14:19] I'm assuming Yattaro and that is a thing of the past you go for scaling
[09:14:22] But does he still want to be in dog while on lanes?
[09:14:25] If the opportunity is there for sure
[09:14:27] And you do have two other cores that can set those plays up, but you really need nature's wrath
[09:14:32] To make it worth your while here
[09:14:35] Rotating before that you're just not contributing enough and I think the risk reward is not your favorite
[09:14:40] Stone cracks level six. Nice thing about it. Contest that rage and rune forces me to pick it up
[09:14:45] And now next is profit with the nature's grasp of tree and coming in to kill the lion
[09:14:50] He's gonna die back away. Poor heroes conversion on made for the power
[09:14:53] That's the kind of play, if you're a Toro, it's like, yeah.
[09:14:57] It helps your team a little bit, it's not too valuable for him.
[09:15:01] He's gonna walk all the way back bottom, and again, that's an empty lane if he leaves.
[09:15:06] There's no one's gonna be down here, his axe will just creep up.
[09:15:09] So you do miss them, to let's be.
[09:15:11] That's the bottom lane, but, yeah, just to get to Black Bear, that's pretty nice.
[09:15:14] It's an axe I'm just looking at. Oh yeah, more trams, more gold for me.
[09:15:17] to me that's what's gonna be careful position wise might be calling to help
[09:15:22] surely because they can start with a stun throw a battle on go think about a
[09:15:26] cool levels in a little awkward I thought it was gonna go for you right
[09:15:33] really on if he dies here this is just taking a lot of damage tries to dump
[09:15:39] the tree at the police I thought I was just trying to kill a native's profit
[09:15:43] Alright, that is 0-2-3, a complete messed execution here from our wars.
[09:15:48] This axe is invincible in this game.
[09:15:50] If anything, it's your Toro should be dying on this bottom layer getting threatened with a die.
[09:15:54] You miss the chop off the Lotus Pop, you don't have a point in call to go for that kill.
[09:15:58] You could just be creep-cutting, you could already be level 7 and a half almost.
[09:16:02] This is one of the most efficient early game farmers in the game,
[09:16:05] so every minute you are off the map for the first 10 minutes,
[09:16:07] when you are creep-cutting you are missing life.
[09:16:10] A neutral camp plus the wave, absolute solo free farm.
[09:16:13] That is a brutal death for Aurora.
[09:16:15] Cannot be understated here.
[09:16:18] And not exactly, they also lost the Doom top.
[09:16:21] Collapse filled up Nightfall.
[09:16:22] Aurora's gonna get some revenge
[09:16:24] on a diving tower under not me.
[09:16:26] Yeah, how did Nightfall die?
[09:16:27] I'm not entirely sure, to be honest with you.
[09:16:31] Getting a little bit over ego now.
[09:16:32] Yathraura's gonna come up,
[09:16:33] chop, kill, kill, or he's Phoenix left stranded behind tier one.
[09:16:36] He died to no arena.
[09:16:38] Well, four, could we?
[09:16:43] Must have just chipped away at him, brought him low.
[09:16:45] Aw, collapse is just a god amongst men.
[09:16:48] Yeah, there it is, 600 damage out of the...
[09:16:50] Mars 520 from the hoodwink.
[09:16:53] Maybe speared him under tower or something.
[09:16:55] They got him!
[09:16:56] Whatever they did, it was a bit of magic.
[09:16:59] Big kills for Spear here.
[09:17:01] Stabilizing the Serlene.
[09:17:03] So Rora had all those...
[09:17:05] building blocks for success.
[09:17:07] And now, trying to play in towards this top room spot, Mira is wandered into the danger zone.
[09:17:13] Mikoto's got the safety remnant.
[09:17:15] Gonna zip away from them here.
[09:17:18] And when you bring Collapse and Loll into the fight, Kari dives aggressively, pull one onto all his Mars.
[09:17:23] He's quite aggressive with no ulti. Phoenix dies, a double kill for Mars, but he's gonna take over there as Kari finishes him off.
[09:17:29] Nightfall and Mikoto get some core kills on the way through. Very important they clean up now.
[09:17:34] Very big rune for Mikoto. Amp damage, just slicing people up in this fight. Not a skirmish,
[09:17:42] pure one bitch. Sucked into a list up here and was able to come in with Rath. Which is
[09:17:47] just now up and he's getting double again. This one should be successful.
[09:17:50] Now he's got the berserk, it's cool. Living armor, helps the low pins.
[09:17:54] There's a spin, he's actually curving and trying to kill off the line, nearly had it.
[09:17:59] Let's have that earlier kill should I go
[09:18:04] WS will get his revenge re-accelerate his game here still extremely far
[09:18:10] So yeah, you could be even bigger, but you were still jacked off this in this game
[09:18:14] That's still saying pretty level nine already
[09:18:17] compare that to the seven of collapse
[09:18:20] Job it is now apparently just admit and gather up the waves
[09:18:24] probably gonna put
[09:18:25] Yeah, throw
[09:18:27] Top lane, now you're back in the jungle.
[09:18:30] Or it does.
[09:18:30] Oh my god.
[09:18:32] Doesn't look for the bottom kill, but you don't have arena yet, so you're going to have to wait for that.
[09:18:36] You also have to wait for your ulti in 30 seconds, that's when we'll likely see the next play.
[09:18:40] It doesn't have a lane, which means you're forced into the jungle.
[09:18:45] No action for Spirit right now.
[09:18:47] Just a lull in their cooldowns as...
[09:18:49] We'll allow the Doom to come up for Nightfall, and some of these Remnant stories.
[09:18:52] He's bought for Makoto, used a lot earlier.
[09:18:54] Did find another power shield rune for him.
[09:18:56] So you can get pretty aggressive with that if you want to collapse bottom and kill whoever's down here
[09:19:04] Any room you give to this doom get close to that radiance
[09:19:08] get a little time for that
[09:19:10] Big I tend to invest into Aurora would love to fight in this bottom lane now and sax is really big
[09:19:15] You can easily dive the tower to the career to
[09:19:18] We take attention off of nightfall as well, which is a problem desperately required. He's already been run out
[09:19:24] Got the hex, not supernova, good stun on Law and Nightfall while he survived the initial
[09:19:30] onslaught for the egg has been taken down, an arena now, Mira getting caught out but
[09:19:34] W reacts to the rotation up top, a call in the simtals stops stunning them up and Yatoro
[09:19:39] is killed off Mira with collapse and Ws can't quite get the finish, it's a bit more damage
[09:19:43] than Dully can dunk but a God's repute back, the battle hunger forward, Kota is chasing
[09:19:48] on Nexus Prophet who has no more ways to disengage, Nightfall even chucks the ulti at it.
[09:19:54] me spent the sharpshooter WS is still hunting in the tree lines they kept that
[09:19:58] damage every time one collapsed and another battle hunger comes in with an
[09:20:02] uncharged as well my partner can just keep chasing this one down so much
[09:20:06] chase potential oh it just built out that's pretty nice don't waste more of
[09:20:10] the time it's out of hand all damn bird
[09:20:12] oh my god what I just a master this stuff isn't it he took who damaged from
[09:20:22] little centaur. Of course they did. Only collapse gets out of it. That's just a cool damage.
[09:20:29] Insane. Oh much time wasted. This is the fall I was having a go at, Loll. I can't kill anyone on their own.
[09:20:37] What a beast man. What a beast. One of a kind player. Nonetheless, great fight for a war.
[09:20:43] Nightfall just so damn tanky. Survived so much, a little to come back in. You waste all the
[09:20:48] The Stormers mana doesn't even go down.
[09:20:53] The Tram has seen the Phoenix, but I don't know if they know that McCutner is in Viz.
[09:20:57] Who's hunting who here?
[09:20:59] In Viz Viz, looking for the tree.
[09:21:01] Now he's being scouted. There's the axe.
[09:21:03] And the doom!
[09:21:05] Hot on the tail of Nexus Prophet!
[09:21:07] I'm surprised you tore us down here.
[09:21:09] Like, this is effectively a deadly and posterior to the axes lingering anywhere near this vicinity,
[09:21:13] because you're just instantly going to get dove and pile-pawn.
[09:21:16] The skills are way too easy for Aurora in this bottom lane as this pick has worked out beautifully.
[09:21:21] And now worth the reflexes!
[09:21:23] There's a gig of farm in this one. Gonna have a very fast vanguard blade mill blink, which is...
[09:21:29] We're nearly scary in this game. You blink blade mill call anybody, you have the damage followed.
[09:21:34] Merah, let's have a stun.
[09:21:36] Groot up, not me.
[09:21:38] I have to figure out how to finish him off.
[09:21:40] Oh, well, I was thinking maybe he had a shot there.
[09:21:42] Bro, gives the overgrowth and now the arena onto nightfall.
[09:21:46] I stuck around, finish off that tower, it does die.
[09:21:49] Seems great, bring the numbers to kill him off.
[09:21:52] Perfect shifting into 5th gear to deal with our mid-latent tier 1 though.
[09:21:56] I'm proud of it with the two supports. We should be able to take that down.
[09:21:58] Really has a paddle in the off-lane. That's what it feels like.
[09:22:02] Some sick moves from the collapse. 6 and 2 in this game.
[09:22:06] On an off-lane Mars that maybe had no business being 6 and 2.
[09:22:09] WS, 3-1 axe, piling up the net worth, turning just 8 powers of his own, 4 heroes off the
[09:22:16] lanes.
[09:22:17] It's kind of a blink, very swiftly here as well, so big initiatives for these 2 squads,
[09:22:22] gotta continue to find openings in place.
[09:22:25] As Wisdomtron will spawn and both of them should be going Aurora's way, very happy about that
[09:22:30] as Nightfall gets to claim some experience helping catch up.
[09:22:33] control pretty much the entire team right now no effort to call his home
[09:22:39] sad jungler trying to scale this game just profit which is gonna take a little
[09:22:42] while so it's down to storm tree and hoodwink to try and keep lanes out
[09:22:47] wherever they can. The storm is just so poor. Ember is also poor but I don't think
[09:22:52] the ember needed is good of a start in this game I don't think Aurora has
[09:22:56] has depended on Makoto, just hyper-accelerating here.
[09:22:59] I think it's usually when Lars is on a storm, he becomes a bit of the carry, for sure as
[09:23:06] his emberspray is more just a nuisance, an annoying hero that's going to get on top of
[09:23:10] you, the doom and the axe, they're the big boys.
[09:23:12] This is our storm to try and lift himself up from that bottom spot, and that's worth
[09:23:21] looking at the core heroes.
[09:23:23] Is there something that could lift them up? Blink Dagger on the Mars.
[09:23:27] Blink Dagger on the Axe at the same time and he's an item ahead.
[09:23:31] It is. It's pretty scary. See what both these offlaners choose to do with this blink.
[09:23:35] If you're collapsed you really gotta get something done with it. You're trying to stabilize this game even more, get your other cores involved.
[09:23:40] It's almost more important for him to hit these blink plays for his storm and virion than it is for him.
[09:23:45] So, would not be surprised to see Spirit trying to get some lanes out with, you know, Nature's
[09:23:51] Olden, Trees flying in, trying to smoke towards one of these tier ones.
[09:23:54] Just trying to get the jump on Aurora as they are.
[09:23:57] Step ahead here.
[09:23:58] We're going to do the same thing.
[09:24:00] Back into the kill lane.
[09:24:02] This bottom part of the map is just a distance.
[09:24:04] Yeah.
[09:24:05] Straight onto the hoodwink.
[09:24:06] Trees, just sitting in the trees.
[09:24:07] They don't see me.
[09:24:08] They've got no idea.
[09:24:09] Keep me out of there.
[09:24:10] And de-wall down.
[09:24:11] Oh.
[09:24:12] Server.
[09:24:13] Yes, dude.
[09:24:14] That's it.
[09:24:15] I think I've got the other growth on this mid lane.
[09:24:18] You had to just throw it out when he came down the slide and take the gamble.
[09:24:22] You could never hesitate against this hero.
[09:24:27] That means Aurora from the bottom lane can pivot pretty quickly into mid.
[09:24:30] Guard up all the active runes and you're effectively just hamming Team Spirit back into this ancient area where,
[09:24:36] after I was saying guys, you can't all sit here, I need this XP, I need this farm.
[09:24:40] You've got to get out there and cut waves or do something.
[09:24:43] I just don't have any space to play with.
[09:24:45] I mean Lars is going to get jumped in the bottom jungle.
[09:24:47] Quick blink, cold finger of death.
[09:24:48] Secures his end.
[09:24:51] That was without vision.
[09:24:52] If you're a spear, you're going to be going back to this clip top, I think, definitely.
[09:24:55] And you have some deep words on this, guys.
[09:24:57] We've got to clear some of this out.
[09:24:58] Nope.
[09:24:59] They're just running in, because they're so bold.
[09:25:03] But the Star WS is out of here.
[09:25:05] Not that they know, the only thing to be afraid of is Mars.
[09:25:08] So if he ever shows on the map.
[09:25:10] I'll actually reward the cliff.
[09:25:12] It's going to get de-walled and...
[09:25:13] Yeah, actually...
[09:25:14] Kind of don't like that.
[09:25:15] I hate that Ops.
[09:25:17] I think you just place it deeper,
[09:25:18] because you know the first thing Spirit are going to do is run back here,
[09:25:21] and Century check this cliff,
[09:25:23] as Rue instantly goes there, and Century checks the cliff and kills your ward.
[09:25:25] I guess you're going to be able to kill off it.
[09:25:27] Yeah, the ward is still alive!
[09:25:29] He doesn't get the de-walled, not me will,
[09:25:31] but now you lose the trade and that's another dunk out of the Column Blade of Axe.
[09:25:35] But that's honestly worth the Ops.
[09:25:36] Like, I think you should have just placed that Ops somewhere where you assume that Century's going to miss.
[09:25:40] By the way, Aurora still has a lot of out control play with their corraling spirit in this bottom lane.
[09:25:45] Alright, now the jump's straight in onto the hoodwink.
[09:25:48] Laugh, at least he's gonna get the zip back towards the twin gate.
[09:25:51] And they lose another hero, as Aurora built up this 7k net worth lead.
[09:25:55] Getting pick off after pick off.
[09:25:57] And the item's just keep rolling, and it's gonna be a blink done for the lion.
[09:26:01] Super early here, the map dirt is insane.
[09:26:06] With this lineup.
[09:26:07] Pretty shortly you're gonna have a soul crest done on Phoenix.
[09:26:10] Like a hundred gold away from it.
[09:26:12] Support's mega fast.
[09:26:17] Just kicking him back to this nature's profit.
[09:26:19] And it didn't get that early active game plan going.
[09:26:22] Didn't get the dog pile onto any of these lanes.
[09:26:24] So now it's just sitting and trying to itemize the deal with this.
[09:26:27] He also can't show on any ways.
[09:26:29] If you're tortuous to push ways and show, you're just...
[09:26:32] Probably gonna be jumped by liner acts or hammer.
[09:26:35] Maybe even doom his lurking rangers dead.
[09:26:37] So you are just pushed into this triangle.
[09:26:40] Banking on for half the nature to pick up the extra bar, rough spot, dude.
[09:26:45] And if we had later...
[09:26:47] House lag.
[09:26:48] Interesting.
[09:26:49] Mountain house lag.
[09:26:50] Press the DPI button back to them.
[09:26:52] Will the cursor slow down?
[09:26:53] It's a wireless mouse, you know.
[09:26:55] Sometimes they just lose connection.
[09:26:58] Plug it back in, unplug it again.
[09:27:01] I'll sort it every single time.
[09:27:02] Just a bit of power sign clings.
[09:27:03] Just throw it out the window.
[09:27:04] I'll do that, yeah.
[09:27:08] I guess nature's profit at least when he gets doomed you can just stand there deliver some damage
[09:27:13] I just stand there and die. Yeah, I'm just I can't think of like the item path for him
[09:27:18] That's going to fully carry the game
[09:27:21] Mjolnir into six slot
[09:27:25] Sounds incredible. Yeah, you get to you're looking to the six slots here
[09:27:29] Some ultra late game with Daedalus satanic
[09:27:32] Yeah, satanic to me is the big one in this game for him to actually be able to sit and fight and survive
[09:27:36] when you don't get doomed. It helps you with the axe call.
[09:27:42] But it's going to be a long way to that.
[09:27:43] Yeah, we're already thinking about the 35 plus.
[09:27:46] Oh, that's where this game has to go for Spirit.
[09:27:48] Aurora can close this out in the next 10 minutes and just...
[09:27:52] If you get to 20k gold lead here by 25 to 30, then mark this game as just going to be
[09:27:56] impossible for Spirit to play. Again, too many pick-off threats in this game.
[09:28:00] Too many easy ways to push the lanes out. You're just not afraid.
[09:28:02] I'm not doing any easy avenues to get kills of spirit unless you just out execute like
[09:28:09] gods because very shortly we're going to be looking at multiple BKBs arriving for Aurora.
[09:28:15] And Doom is getting pretty close to his, acts me a little bit, you know, two, three minutes
[09:28:20] away we're going to have that double BKB threat and then a mage layer on Ember spirit makes
[09:28:23] him tanky and difficult to kill.
[09:28:25] the overwhelming team fight. Jump, catch, kill. From the roar is pretty tremendous.
[09:28:31] Clips has just been looking for a long time too. He's gonna fight Nate Faubley.
[09:28:36] I bet you could do on that. Just get straight up doomed. You know, Yule's back
[09:28:40] and try and run, but the mirror very quickly and it's got a lane. Finger of
[09:28:44] death and he got his catch. The Mars down. That's the trouble with this hero. You buy
[09:28:48] this blink, Yule's been invested into aggression. You don't get a pay off. You're
[09:28:52] thinking, well, why am I playing Mars?
[09:28:55] Why do I have these items?
[09:28:56] Should I just put a hand on Midas?
[09:28:59] He can't.
[09:29:01] Very one-dimensional hero right now,
[09:29:03] especially when you're behind.
[09:29:05] This hero's really sad for behind,
[09:29:06] because you are dependent on your other cores for damage
[09:29:08] on these kills a lot of times.
[09:29:13] I was sitting down here and looking for anything,
[09:29:14] but I'm staring out of the tree,
[09:29:16] and trying to stick out behind the ember spirit.
[09:29:19] I may just profit TP's for this ember,
[09:29:21] And over for us comes in, actually clicking the line in the back while they focus onto
[09:29:25] Mikato, but they don't get the finishing touch.
[09:29:28] Exactly a little bit.
[09:29:29] And now they blink in onto the next Prophet, suddenly dunk him down.
[09:29:32] Lion's gonna dive to the storm.
[09:29:34] Spirit gets something, but it's just not meaningful at all.
[09:29:38] You're lucky to get out of there with whoever gets out of here, which is not me.
[09:29:43] We'll not get out.
[09:29:44] No, no, no.
[09:29:45] You missed the call.
[09:29:46] They're gonna do a man's plastic gap.
[09:29:48] Gonna chop a little squirrel.
[09:29:50] No dunk though.
[09:29:51] What's the love saying?
[09:29:52] No more armor for WS?
[09:29:54] Very quick turnaround. Aurora are gonna keep you at everything in this game.
[09:29:57] There's no reason not to.
[09:30:00] Single axe called the...
[09:30:01] ...Gatorra Pyrrhon's gonna put him in the grave every single time.
[09:30:05] Please, they're just too difficult to make, man.
[09:30:07] They had to perfectly chain the lock down there to kill that.
[09:30:10] Even then, it's close to not happening.
[09:30:13] Pyrrhon's just not giving you a walk right now.
[09:30:16] Nah, he just finished off the mage player.
[09:30:19] Pretty challenging.
[09:30:21] It's like Laurel deciding he's got to go into a BKB so I'm not even able to finish off like this guy,
[09:30:27] Sange first, which we love to see on the storm.
[09:30:32] Where's the damage going from? Ah, I don't know. If you got triple BKBs, it's kind of rough.
[09:30:36] Yeah, just don't. I don't know, he's killing me, sir.
[09:30:39] Wait, no one's killing Axe. Hell no.
[09:30:43] They can maybe kill Ember? Well, that's a long shot. Durham is probably not dying either.
[09:30:50] Maybe they help the Tormenter kills their enemies for them, but the line in the feeling is getting pretty close to death.
[09:30:55] The thing is, even in these scenarios where they kill a hero if it's a teamfight, you're getting wiped. It just takes too long.
[09:31:00] There's an egg going out, someone's getting lion's sun, someone's getting an axe called, someone's getting doomed.
[09:31:05] All of these are big enough threats on your cores.
[09:31:09] So you have to split the map right now and you have to find Pickles. That is the name of the Aether Spirit, which so far has been Aurora's specialty.
[09:31:16] They're the ones threatening you across the map.
[09:31:19] Even without vision.
[09:31:22] Right now, I have a couple of wards down in the bottom area.
[09:31:26] I think that sees a hero.
[09:31:30] And this is?
[09:31:32] You know, in Team Spirit's wheelhouse, the Kainer pushed the game longer, dragged things out.
[09:31:37] But when you're 12k behind against heroes like this,
[09:31:41] I don't know how much magic you're going to pull out to actually perform and deal with the onslaughts coming.
[09:31:48] Cause it's like, next teamfight you lose, it's Roshan.
[09:31:50] Teamfight after that is tier 2s.
[09:31:52] Teamfight after that is your base.
[09:31:54] My damage numbers don't look bad.
[09:31:58] I'm just not able to actually kill heroes off.
[09:32:02] They're getting some lanes out.
[09:32:04] They got a nice ward up top.
[09:32:05] They got another ward in their jungle bot.
[09:32:08] Just killed in Obbs.
[09:32:09] Lower river.
[09:32:10] Aurora kinda took their foot off the gas here in the short treat to their side of the
[09:32:13] map.
[09:32:14] Come on, put the foot straight back down again.
[09:32:17] I don't mind the squirrel, but I'm not sure why they gave up so much map control.
[09:32:21] You're not afraid of anything.
[09:32:26] Now's the perfect time to regroup as well with all these VKVs.
[09:32:31] One of the weaknesses of their lineup is you end up in positions where you're far ahead, but you have no objective takeer.
[09:32:37] You can't really do roaches with this lineup. You can't push it to your queues.
[09:32:40] You have to keep hunting.
[09:32:42] And in the moments where you missed the hunt, the net worth can swing spirits away.
[09:32:48] You have to be aware of how many heroes you're running around the map with these kind of
[09:32:52] items.
[09:32:53] The mirror is going to find in the jungle.
[09:32:55] Can you get him though?
[09:32:57] His tree walked back into the tree and he's trying to cut through here.
[09:33:00] Yeah, with Ember Spirit and the Doom coming in there, they've got him down.
[09:33:04] Get over her up though.
[09:33:06] So for the back of that door, observable, seeing the train coming.
[09:33:11] Look at you, Toro.
[09:33:14] But it's trained from the tier one bottom lane.
[09:33:17] Every little help, any little bit of map space, any little bit of structure damage you can do.
[09:33:21] They're doing it. Look at them go. Good job, little buddies.
[09:33:24] Ping collapse up top. Nice fall. Trying to set up form.
[09:33:28] But it does get scammed on the board.
[09:33:33] They're at the ones who are waiting.
[09:33:35] Are you really going to fall in?
[09:33:37] No, no shot.
[09:33:38] Surely not.
[09:33:39] Blink into blink.
[09:33:40] Very fast.
[09:33:41] Maybe they're going to turn though.
[09:33:42] Now with an X-Trop of TP in, Vortex is starting to self-pinch.
[09:33:45] Got the BTG up from the dream that's trying to click him down, but now comes the blink
[09:33:49] call.
[09:33:50] Oh boy!
[09:33:51] WS, one done.
[09:33:52] Down!
[09:33:53] A nightmare for Aurora.
[09:33:54] And the doon's going to get flicked out of there.
[09:33:57] Oh, he gets the upgrade up.
[09:33:59] Can't catch a storm, TP's out.
[09:34:01] Master's gonna get found. Nightmare, a nightmare spirit.
[09:34:04] I'm a real Nightmare. Nightmare for me, I don't know what team I'm saying.
[09:34:09] You kill that dude with your spear, but you spear at the wave.
[09:34:12] And they still decided to make the go for like that enough damage with the fury I'm coming in,
[09:34:15] but again, the response from Aurora is just so fast.
[09:34:20] I'm not hungry, though.
[09:34:22] Is that all I'm gonna kill with one more touch?
[09:34:24] Oh, oh, we missed it. The invasion.
[09:34:27] We're radiance paying off, burning down the squirrel.
[09:34:30] Nice attempt.
[09:34:31] Nice try.
[09:34:32] This is too beastly in this game.
[09:34:38] I have no stopping this train.
[09:34:40] Bottom lane are looking for more.
[09:34:42] Axe and Phoenix playing forward.
[09:34:46] Spirit.
[09:34:47] I'm lurking in the trees thinking about any opportunity they can take.
[09:34:51] Down 14k, being run out in every single lane.
[09:34:55] Even when you get these BKBs you're thinking,
[09:34:57] well, okay, I press them and I run.
[09:35:00] They've been looking for these play opportunities. It's just very hard to convert on them.
[09:35:06] In any sort of meaningful way.
[09:35:08] WES even thinking about early boots and travel here on the Act.
[09:35:11] Maybe to just add to the map presence.
[09:35:14] Restrict all available moves.
[09:35:16] He's gonna find a room, killing another ward.
[09:35:18] I mean, he has been de-warding pretty successfully.
[09:35:20] Might get out of here too.
[09:35:21] Yeah, not robin' through.
[09:35:22] Okay, that's Valley. That's a super value space here.
[09:35:25] It's another four staff, too, honestly.
[09:35:27] He's having himself a solid game on the tree and all things considered.
[09:35:31] Draw all the attention to that bottom right corner.
[09:35:34] That means they're not taking Roche or pressuring his ex-profit.
[09:35:37] Somebody's gotta make space for this game.
[09:35:42] I'll wait on that shoulder, though.
[09:35:46] There's an opportunity for that.
[09:35:48] He's going to spread a voice of smoke and go ganking that.
[09:35:50] And he's now raced Mars' VKB.
[09:35:53] That's the thing, I just don't even know if the teamfight becomes easier with the triple BKB timing for Spirit.
[09:35:57] You're gonna have BKBs on the side of Aurora, you have the Axe who can go through it, you have Supernova
[09:36:01] that you're gonna have to sit there and hit under all this damage.
[09:36:05] I worry about Spirit's damage.
[09:36:07] Can you bring Nightfall down? We saw earlier.
[09:36:09] It's been such a piece this game.
[09:36:11] High Armor Hero.
[09:36:13] You have the Solar Crest behind him, you have the Sunray behind him on the big HP target.
[09:36:18] Tough nut to crack.
[09:36:20] Yeah, just can't go as straight into this. Head on head.
[09:36:24] By, you've got to do something to break the line of Aurora.
[09:36:28] You've got heroes that can do that.
[09:36:29] You have storms able to get into the back line, give a bit of vision for the Mars with an Aegis Prophet.
[09:36:33] Maybe you can snipe this lion or Phoenix, get numbers advantage, find yourself a situation where an enemy has to buy back,
[09:36:39] or you can sneak into Roshan, because a lot of little moves have to come together for them.
[09:36:44] Definitely best case scenario.
[09:36:45] Why are you thinking about all this planning and how you enter the team fights?
[09:36:52] The ambush spirit is going to find your train.
[09:36:55] They can't talk with the gem.
[09:36:57] He's rude.
[09:36:59] Trying to sneak in here and get some wards, potentially instead of play later.
[09:37:03] Ran into the one guy you didn't want to run into.
[09:37:10] Now they swing straight into the pit.
[09:37:12] One here, down on spirit, no chance of contesting.
[09:37:16] Let's give a little bit of map space to Mars to push out on top lane.
[09:37:20] Definitely a slower rush on. They're just so gigapart.
[09:37:25] As fast as it should be here, that's what it's done for a play fault.
[09:37:28] Going to...
[09:37:30] Make sure farm slash wave and shove down here help with the nature profit pressure.
[09:37:35] It never becomes an issue.
[09:37:37] I'm pretty gauged as well, interesting, thought you could get to Makoto here.
[09:37:43] That's also not going to be a vault, not going to be active, don't worry.
[09:37:46] Not me trying to steal a wisdom shrine, but Mira's having none of that.
[09:37:49] Two Sepulchres have been very good at tracking Jack and making sure that Team Spirit don't find any of these sneaky plays.
[09:37:56] More armor, some more finger of death charges, permanent scaling here.
[09:38:01] That's the way to do it.
[09:38:02] How can you ever recover against the permanent scaling?
[09:38:05] That's the counter to team spirit. They want to go late game. They want to find these moments. You just keep on scaling
[09:38:11] We're gonna see Pudge silencer next. Oh, yeah
[09:38:14] Lead you commander. Oh, yeah
[09:38:18] And imagine you're the first pro to get a pen to duel in a fight
[09:38:24] Chained them one after the other bang bang bang exactly just line them up
[09:38:27] Oh, they're pretty sick.
[09:38:32] Or did you get AoE dual?
[09:38:34] That's always been my dream.
[09:38:36] And you can buff the AoE?
[09:38:38] I don't like that.
[09:38:39] You can go like Glap'n or Legion, and just dual with a Disun Bloodrate.
[09:38:42] Just dual half the screen.
[09:38:44] Everybody in there has to run at you and fight you.
[09:38:46] No.
[09:38:47] I'm not a fan.
[09:38:48] Why are you getting so excited?
[09:38:50] Because that was old.
[09:38:52] Don't think about it.
[09:38:53] Now, all of a sudden, you can buy like Battlefield or Legion for the cleat.
[09:38:55] Oh, please, the AOE duel.
[09:38:57] So is it gonna drag all the heroes in front of her so they all have to face her?
[09:39:00] Yeah. Like, within an arc, you know?
[09:39:02] Yeah.
[09:39:03] Within the exact cleave arc of the battle theory? Cleave and throw?
[09:39:06] But you don't want the battle theory of Legion in your game?
[09:39:09] No, not really! I've had enough of the Iron Talon Legion commander a few years back.
[09:39:13] That ship's good.
[09:39:14] Well, enough's enough.
[09:39:18] I mean, it would be interesting, but not fun.
[09:39:21] I just imagine worlds in which we have like, you know,
[09:39:25] agonistepha storm, and even a black hole,
[09:39:28] and Legion just comes in with a duel as well.
[09:39:30] That's what I'm saying, the combos!
[09:39:31] Darks here, Legion lane, plus four darks here.
[09:39:33] I'll play Legion.
[09:39:35] Now I'm cooking.
[09:39:36] No, no, you can actually hook me in now.
[09:39:38] Vacuum duel.
[09:39:39] Vacuum duel.
[09:39:40] This is what I'm gonna need.
[09:39:44] Oh, no.
[09:39:47] Please no.
[09:39:49] I hear the deads listening, please.
[09:39:51] Please, no.
[09:39:53] What deads?
[09:39:55] I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
[09:39:56] They're gonna put A.O.E. Duel into deadlock?
[09:39:58] Yeah, I don't think the deadlock team's listening right now, period.
[09:40:01] I can't name you a single hero from that game, but one of them's gonna get A.O.E. Duel.
[09:40:07] If they don't already have it.
[09:40:09] If A.O.E. Duel shows up in that game, I'm...
[09:40:11] I'm stewing somebody, that's all I know.
[09:40:12] You're gonna be pissed.
[09:40:13] I'm gonna be real bad.
[09:40:15] Unless it's already in that game, in which case, too shame.
[09:40:18] They might be.
[09:40:19] Very smart company.
[09:40:20] What's up heroes?
[09:40:21] It seems to be a spirit.
[09:40:22] Trying to play onto this axe.
[09:40:24] That's a big boy.
[09:40:25] Storm, Nages Prophet, damage.
[09:40:26] Big kill.
[09:40:27] They've got him.
[09:40:28] Godlike streak gone, but the Doom's gonna arrive now.
[09:40:30] Ulti onto the Nages Prophet.
[09:40:31] Lala's gonna be caught.
[09:40:33] Try the TP out of there, but realize,
[09:40:35] hang on, we can turn on this nightfall Doom and get the kill.
[09:40:38] Nages down.
[09:40:39] Okay.
[09:40:40] Losing Nages Prophet, but two massive kills between spirit.
[09:40:43] Way better than I expected here.
[09:40:45] Good hood, we get away with it.
[09:40:46] Glimmer kid, TP, I think she can.
[09:40:48] The rest of the war were kinda getting harassed by this Mars and Treant mid, they ended up killing the Treant there, that's why the rest of the team didn't converge on that fight.
[09:40:56] Huge pick off for Spirit, the exact type of thing they're looking for, I mean, this lead has not grown for Aurora as we've been yapping about nonsense.
[09:41:04] You're gonna collapse getting burned down, but he's got a Yule's fear combo.
[09:41:08] Thanks.
[09:41:09] Alpha Storm, sitting onto the Phoenix, Kaori, at the bottom of the stupanova, and Alaya
[09:41:14] protects the Phoenix.
[09:41:15] They can't take it down, so the Sunray gives Kaori the double kill.
[09:41:19] So just as we saw 1000 gold going into the hands of Yatora, got 1000 gold given over
[09:41:25] to Kaori, and maybe even more now, it's not me who's gonna get sliced down by Nightfall.
[09:41:29] Don't have to damage for that go and you got to respect the connection power from Aurora
[09:41:37] They get there fast once they're there you are not winning that skirmish not even close
[09:41:45] Sequence look pretty good to begin with
[09:41:49] It ends up with collapse thinking a we can kill this feeling to pin her against the tree
[09:41:53] The lion is off of so much protection. Oh shadow blade mine a classic
[09:41:59] You might think it's grief, but no.
[09:42:01] It's domination.
[09:42:03] That's why the class is saying, he's like,
[09:42:05] What the fuck, this guy's got a Shadow Blade?
[09:42:06] What am I supposed to do about that, man?
[09:42:08] What? That's where you say,
[09:42:09] What happened bottom lane in this game?
[09:42:12] Team, hello?
[09:42:13] Oh, my name's Prophet, darling of an enemy ancient.
[09:42:17] Tracked back by these two support.
[09:42:20] Number one, doing a really good job.
[09:42:21] This has been extremely one-sided game.
[09:42:24] 21K lead.
[09:42:26] Team spread.
[09:42:27] I mean, they just don't have the oblong teamfight or the high ground hold or the catch capabilities, and they don't have a carry!
[09:42:34] Next profit debt for a minute.
[09:42:37] They were the ones that were dependent on those lanes going well this time around, and they did not go well.
[09:42:43] They got dominated here from the wrong. Outside of mid. Laurel played mid really well, but...
[09:42:47] Spirit just don't have the best supports to go there early and capitalize on it.
[09:42:50] If anything, we saw that early period really turn the tide in that mid lane,
[09:42:54] Which was a result of the bottom lane being worn so hard so...
[09:42:58] As well as really going for this one.
[09:43:00] He's giving a doom for his trouble though.
[09:43:01] Nightfall's coming to deal with this storm.
[09:43:04] Now they're dead.
[09:43:05] Now overgrowth.
[09:43:07] All the doom back through the BKB, but it comes Makoto into the middle of three of them.
[09:43:11] Yule's from collapse.
[09:43:12] Straight out.
[09:43:13] Well, deep as we can even.
[09:43:14] One emberspirant zips on a laurel.
[09:43:16] Kills him off.
[09:43:17] As the doom is expiring.
[09:43:19] I can't even bail him out there and you're, yeah, you're throwing him, it's just dead the whole time.
[09:43:25] Got that lion though.
[09:43:27] Show us about him.
[09:43:29] Got that lion.
[09:43:32] Yeah, it was too busy yapping, answering whatever Knife Fool was asking him.
[09:43:36] I just love every time we look at Knife Fool, he's having a chat.
[09:43:39] Oh, this guy's the biggest talker, maybe in the history of the game.
[09:43:47] There he is!
[09:43:49] I jumped in from WS, straight in there with nightfall after collapse.
[09:43:55] Mars has the arena and Roo's gonna come in to help, blind them up.
[09:43:59] I just lack damage.
[09:44:01] When you see that figure of death finish off the hoodbanks, you tour around the PKB,
[09:44:04] Hurricane Ply can run back to his high ground to try and run and TP to base.
[09:44:08] But the damage of the dunk, he got chopped in the fountain, taken down as he tried to escape.
[09:44:13] And this one has felt like it's been over for a while.
[09:44:16] 35 minutes in they're gonna go for high ground of tier three towers now
[09:44:20] Absolute domination this game too if you thought this was gonna be a fast series think again Aurora
[09:44:25] Not gonna go down that easy. They get a much more much more comfortable draft
[09:44:29] Some of their signature heroes a support duo that can do a lot in the lanes and around the map in that WS acts
[09:44:37] You just booty slap the man from start to finish
[09:44:41] I feel like draft victories in both of these games for sure getting up a hand
[09:44:46] advantage and now a hex is done collapse doesn't have BKB so we'll chain hex him up
[09:44:53] with a Phoenix now storm is dipped in on the line it's getting cooled up though
[09:44:57] small backs minus tearful tower
[09:45:02] we're gonna focus buildings but without a creep wave not needed dying to battle
[09:45:07] hunger new creeps coming with double gas for wave
[09:45:12] We also might be the higher priority of some of these offlaners in the next draft because
[09:45:19] I think the offlaners really dominated this series in terms of what matchup you're getting
[09:45:23] there and what strength of hero and I think the spirits kind of ran out of offlaners later
[09:45:27] on like yeah the Mars can bring their life together it's not a complete trash hero but
[09:45:32] it's not what this axe did in this game the axe got later picked that also took a hero
[09:45:36] out of spirits hands they had to doom flex going the whole time which gave them a lot
[09:45:40] More freedom, like if we run out of offlaners, we know we're still doing there and he's gonna do something.
[09:45:44] Yeah.
[09:45:44] You know, how many off-laners are you willing to trust with an early pick in this meta?
[09:45:47] How long are you willing to let it sit there?
[09:45:49] We've seen what ATF has done with Timber in this tournament.
[09:45:53] We've seen how powerful the Underwater can be in the right situation.
[09:45:56] You gotta make sure you get one of these that...
[09:46:00] just drives the game forward.
[09:46:02] I would not be surprised to see you come with a focus in game 30, assuming it goes that way, which...
[09:46:07] looks pretty likely.
[09:46:10] And then Nature's Prophet is a hero as well, and Yotaro trying to...
[09:46:15] Take some of the success of these ranged, kind of, blast cannon carries, like the drought with the Murphs.
[09:46:19] It's a lot of success in this tournament so far.
[09:46:22] And I think a bigger reason why those carries are performing better than Nature's is the lane.
[09:46:26] They have more lanes they can get out of, they farm equally as fast in the early game,
[09:46:30] and I think the MP spells are just not as strong nearly as what they used to be.
[09:46:34] Yeah.
[09:46:34] So you're just operating with less firepower if you fall behind.
[09:46:39] Light coal under storm.
[09:46:40] I've got changed some galore.
[09:46:42] Jeez, 70 seconds without him now as they move quickly onto this hoodwink.
[09:46:46] Damn, the spirits, you know, fully dives up the tier 3 tower.
[09:46:50] What's there to be afraid of?
[09:46:52] Nothing at all.
[09:46:53] The heroes are so...
[09:46:55] ...dead.
[09:46:56] Or you have 25 on the Doom 2.
[09:47:02] What an invitation.
[09:47:04] Thanks for that next bro, Sham, which is 30 seconds away.
[09:47:07] All three lanes trending towards wade and base though, so he's pretty good.
[09:47:11] Got a lot of maintaining to do.
[09:47:13] And the roof.
[09:47:14] Break out his base there, just couldn't get finger down.
[09:47:17] 11 charges.
[09:47:19] These finger stacks are adding up man.
[09:47:23] This thing does a lot of damage.
[09:47:25] And you know how much of a different game is this from Akato?
[09:47:28] Win ranger game one, for sure not his hero.
[09:47:31] You put him on one of these puck ember kind of guys.
[09:47:34] Completely different.
[09:47:36] 013. Zero deaths for the man.
[09:47:42] Doing whatever he wants.
[09:47:44] Blowing up on that high ground, trying to force a reaction up, spirit.
[09:47:47] Oh, they've also found the nature's profit line, son.
[09:47:50] Mira again, just with this full read of his ex-teammates, doing exactly where they are, what they're going to be doing.
[09:47:55] Catching them as they try and split push lanes.
[09:47:57] 600 bonus damage on his finger.
[09:47:59] Hasn't sustained living the life right now. He's like, please, keep playing, guys. I need to get more stats.
[09:48:06] I also rolled the partisan brand super nice one, 0.
[09:48:13] How much damage does this little trio do?
[09:48:16] 1.5k?
[09:48:20] With a bonus?
[09:48:21] A little high, yeah, basically 1.6.
[09:48:26] Pretty disgusting.
[09:48:28] The food week has 1,500 health, so...
[09:48:32] I'm gonna dip it out of the finger.
[09:48:33] And you almost blanched on it.
[09:48:35] Who's this?
[09:48:36] Lion and Ember Spirit, playing with Lull and Collapse, I mean, BQE defensively.
[09:48:41] Lull's gonna try and go for something.
[09:48:43] Gasply scrambling to get a kill, but Axe comes down again, and we're calling another catch.
[09:48:47] On the storm, no buyback for him.
[09:48:50] It's just farm and stacks, man.
[09:48:52] It's one by one, they're coming all over.
[09:48:54] The dunks just keep on coming and they don't stop coming.
[09:48:57] Eleven-killing blade up now for the Axe.
[09:48:59] This is where you just throw the towel so they don't get more motivation going into game three, you know?
[09:49:05] They're just feeling it.
[09:49:06] I'm confident this is swelling for Aurora, that's for sure.
[09:49:09] Almost a 40k lead.
[09:49:11] Aegis on the doom.
[09:49:13] Breaking your high ground.
[09:49:15] Seems to have probably mentally checked out for a while.
[09:49:19] We've got the 20 talent on the lion.
[09:49:22] What the heck's with the claps?
[09:49:24] God, they're eventual.
[09:49:25] This is like a mid-lion build.
[09:49:26] The items he's got.
[09:49:28] Oh, he is.
[09:49:28] Yeah, I think he can almost...
[09:49:32] Buy aggs.
[09:49:33] I think he can almost solo kill one of these cores if he found it.
[09:49:37] But how much bone is damaged and how many stacks he has with like some attack speed?
[09:49:40] He might be able to solo kill someone.
[09:49:42] It's close.
[09:49:44] I'm going to keep my arms open for it.
[09:49:47] And right now Nightfall is just on the high ground with a small cure-ass.
[09:49:50] The stun range behind him is keeping top top.
[09:49:53] Remember, Spirit is going to go into the tree line to try and hunt down Rue.
[09:49:56] You've got one more chance of Spirit and I think that chance has just gone down a drain.
[09:50:00] I mean, Yatora does have buyback.
[09:50:02] Trying to fend these tier four towers.
[09:50:05] They can buy it, give another color plate stack if you want.
[09:50:08] That would be great.
[09:50:09] And Klaas has gone in.
[09:50:10] They need your hacks after the arena, though.
[09:50:12] Now he's picking these up and you also got the line hacks.
[09:50:15] He's gone and down, but you're right.
[09:50:16] The line has died and forced the buyback.
[09:50:19] Oh, how are they to hell his second home?
[09:50:21] But he's going to return now.
[09:50:23] Back to work.
[09:50:24] Straight into the office.
[09:50:25] There's Mikono.
[09:50:26] He clears through another one.
[09:50:28] Two calls gone, three F follows shortly after, and a drag back with a harpoon, bringing in Gatoro, wheeling him towards WS.
[09:50:35] Don't get the kill on these proper just yet. He's forced himself back in fountain, but that means his tier fours are falling.
[09:50:43] One more finger stack for the road. You killed him first, but he had five.
[09:50:47] Cannot be denied.
[09:50:51] I still have that second life.
[09:50:53] What is it?
[09:50:54] Oh!
[09:50:54] I don't know, he's dying!
[09:50:56] He's giving that Culling Blades back to you, Saiyan!
[09:50:58] Yeah, there it is. Number 13, and he's out of that one.
[09:51:00] GG! Woof! That was...
[09:51:02] A one-sided affair!
[09:51:04] Just stay at all these.
[09:51:05] I mean...
[09:51:07] What went well for Spear's a heckin'? I can't really think of anything.
[09:51:09] Laurel's lane?
[09:51:11] Yeah, Laurel on mid.
[09:51:12] Otherwise, it was all horror. This Ember never died.
[09:51:16] Perfect team for Makoto as he ends 13-0-21.
[09:51:19] A sick line performance from Miro on one of his signatures.
[09:51:22] they got the Cowrie Phoenix, always the delight to watch him.
[09:51:26] Man, those two sidelines, just such beefy boys between the doom and the axe,
[09:51:30] like yeah you got a couple pick offs here with your spear,
[09:51:32] but it just feels like they're getting more gold off the map,
[09:51:34] they're outscaling you, they're pushing you off the waves,
[09:51:36] and that bottom lane was a huge problem.
[09:51:37] It really was what decided this game,
[09:51:39] is you have this axe who gets a good start in the fast aim guard,
[09:51:43] and he just creates so much innate pressure on that lane
[09:51:45] that you have to respond to with your spear,
[09:51:47] and you don't want to go there,
[09:51:48] you don't want to bring heroes there,
[09:51:49] but there's nowhere else to go.
[09:51:50] So, just sets you up for a lot of success here here at Roar, so crazy, crazy solid performance
[09:51:56] with WS-Pist 2 and 13, and like 24 bonus armor at the end.
[09:52:01] Ugh, this is just massive!
[09:52:03] I don't know if I've seen a school line for a tutorial like that ever.
[09:52:07] 4113, a real rough one for his nature's profit, but I don't know what he could have done!
[09:52:12] Roar just looking too hot in game 2 and taking it to a third!
[09:52:16] Well, perhaps Spirit are being their own worst enemies.
[09:52:20] Here we were in Game 1 praising them for the genius of the Snapfire pick.
[09:52:25] Oh my god, you're already shutting down so much of Kaori's hero pool.
[09:52:28] He's not going to be able to pick his Phoenix.
[09:52:30] And then Nightfall being put on a lifestealer, that's not a traditional semi-carry that can
[09:52:35] move around, go through the Twin Gates FV, and then Spirit just throw it all out the
[09:52:39] window.
[09:52:40] Sure, their Snapfire got banned, but I feel like Aurora got everything that they've been
[09:52:43] and excelling it for the past year of this game.
[09:52:47] They did and they looked good.
[09:52:49] Especially, I want to call out Mikoto for looking so different
[09:52:53] on a hero like this Ember compared to something like
[09:52:56] Owen Ranger in the game one.
[09:52:57] They were everywhere.
[09:52:58] I love that they got double boots of travel too
[09:53:01] on their cores.
[09:53:02] With Mira on his line, setting up on sidelines,
[09:53:04] anyone could connect to him and just find the kills
[09:53:07] on this nature's dropper.
[09:53:09] Yeah, that game was day and night between game one.
[09:53:11] I mean, after the dropper, we were all like,
[09:53:13] Yeah, we think Aurora has a better shot, and this one they definitely set themselves up better, but that for me
[09:53:17] I was like, oh, it's gonna be pretty close because I think bot lane is gonna go poorly for WS
[09:53:21] and then he's
[09:53:22] Absolutely stomping that lane and just ran over that game. So they cut down all the trees
[09:53:28] They just profit and trade protector. He doesn't have the angle to come from it also gets very difficult for
[09:53:34] Trans protector to play the lane because you're trading against battle hunger, which makes it so much more difficult
[09:53:39] He gets a couple of kills, he gets the vanguard timing and he's pretty much unkillable
[09:53:44] except for that one death that he did have where he doughed the tower didn't have a point in call
[09:53:48] Other than that, WS, he was on point with his rotations because this hero, if you're off to a good start
[09:53:54] he farms so quickly, pretty much takes the whole area off the map
[09:53:59] and then he comes in with the blink dagger, with the blade mail
[09:54:03] against any of these heroes with no real saves whatsoever, they're just gonna die
[09:54:07] Yeah, and he went Vanguard and Blade Mill and then Blink Dagger, like he just did what
[09:54:13] he could to shut down the lane as much as possible, make it so that he doesn't die or
[09:54:16] feed any kills, and then the second he got that Blink Dagger, those supports were ready
[09:54:21] to smoke up and look for kills instantly.
[09:54:24] For Aurora, so long as they have a core that's high in that worth, that can take fights,
[09:54:29] the supports also look different.
[09:54:31] They did, they did, especially the rotation from the bottom lane, from Mira, because this
[09:54:36] This was early on, 3 level 6 on Storm Spirit where they are securing the lane for Axe.
[09:54:41] He's getting this earlier Vanguard.
[09:54:43] This is going to be a bit of a longer chase on the collapse where he's going to be able
[09:54:48] to deny himself.
[09:54:49] Like he's buying so much space at the time.
[09:54:51] It was Centaur that dealt 2 damage to him.
[09:54:55] He's just so good at these things.
[09:54:57] But the plate that I was talking about is they rotate Lion to the mid lane because you can't
[09:55:02] kill Axe anymore and then you have Stormspread who dies pre-level 6 and then he also TP's to the
[09:55:09] mid lane which is pretty much the only hero who can try to set up a gank on Axe so he's TP's on
[09:55:13] cooldown for 60 plus seconds he can't really punish that so it's all these chain of events that
[09:55:19] the two lead to them having even more network and Axe being a bit but in a safe space where he
[09:55:26] feels like he can take control of that map. Yeah that's oh god there. I was just gonna say you
[09:55:31] You mentioned the boost of travels too earlier. We were concerned that they had no pushing on the side of Aurora
[09:55:34] But I like the way they closed out that game. They're like, we just got to play the map keep catching people
[09:55:38] We know we can't in the game, but a bench like good teams like spirit
[09:55:41] It's isn't like a pub
[09:55:42] They're gonna sit in their base and just say come high ground and eventually throw like they're going to find out their way
[09:55:47] out of the map and
[09:55:49] Lacoste doing his best Avery impression right now
[09:55:51] But and they're they're not gonna give up on that and so instead of saying let's build AC and a bunch of high ground items
[09:55:58] Let's just kill them infinite amount of times they have 50 kills at the end of that game
[09:56:03] Yeah, and they also just had a strong anti carry draft right when you first pick this doom and you have
[09:56:10] Two cores that can play very well on either side lane and you get this axe later on as like your last phase hero
[09:56:18] It's tough. It's a tough game for a team that's very dependent on their carry doing well
[09:56:21] Like these are VKV piercing disables
[09:56:24] This is very hard to play into and I do think there's going to be a certain amount of respect placed either on this doom in that first phase
[09:56:31] Or just taking out axe at the very end
[09:56:34] And we saw another game of Mars that just fell off completely
[09:56:38] Like he was doing good amount of work, getting the return kill in the top lane, getting a kill on doom pre-level 6
[09:56:45] But still, the hero lacks punching power
[09:56:48] power. Like once you go in, if you don't have other cores,
[09:56:52] debuff on the box, if you don't have anyone that goes in to
[09:56:56] follow up on that damage, it does feel really bad because
[09:57:00] your position 5 isn't really doing it. The stores for it can't do it
[09:57:04] but he also needs to be very afraid because both of them had really good start.
[09:57:08] I'm talking about the off lane and the mid lane. Even Doom did show up in some of
[09:57:12] these earlier fights, used that Doom. So very difficult game for Mars and he
[09:57:16] still feels like a lackluster hero after the soul ring nerf. He was even, he was in a bad state prior to that, but I think this change also kind of ruined the extra 5 seconds. It just doesn't synergize with your spells.
[09:57:28] We have something to say about the box.
[09:57:31] Yeah, why is there a box moving around right there?
[09:57:33] Is it a DHL box?
[09:57:35] No, it's not moving.
[09:57:36] No, it's just a box that's somehow moving.
[09:57:39] But is it a box?
[09:57:41] I'm pretty sure it's a box.
[09:57:42] It literally says it's a box.
[09:57:43] It says I'm a boxy, but it seems like it got eliminated.
[09:57:47] I've played enough Metal Gear Solid.
[09:57:49] Yeah, I've played enough Metal Gear Solid to know that's definitely a box.
[09:57:52] But if I affirm what I am, then am I that thing?
[09:57:56] It's a very Descartes thing for you to say.
[09:57:58] No. Wait, is it Descartes?
[09:58:01] He said I think they're for I am.
[09:58:03] Therefore, you think you're a box.
[09:58:06] He a box.
[09:58:08] Don't put yourself in any box, you guys.
[09:58:10] Don't put yourself in any box.
[09:58:12] The theory owned from his box, that is true.
[09:58:15] The Phoenix Box.
[09:58:16] Absolutely owned from his Phoenix Warlock Decura Box.
[09:58:20] You know what box I'm starting to lose a little bit of faith in?
[09:58:23] Mars?
[09:58:24] No, not Mars actually.
[09:58:25] I think the way that it were approached this first victory and take out Drow SF and then
[09:58:31] the nature's profit looked way less good than either of those two combinations.
[09:58:37] And if you're going to break that combo in half by landing a drone and stuff, maybe Spirit
[09:58:41] should move away from that, that like Trian plus range combination.
[09:58:46] Knowing Team Spirit, they are going to do the flip.
[09:58:49] I don't think they're going to be going with the same ideas.
[09:58:51] We're not going to be seeing, I would say, Inter and Peep.
[09:58:54] No Trian protector on top of that as well.
[09:58:57] No Mars.
[09:58:58] So there's going to be a big picture of Gary having the time of his life here.
[09:59:02] You can't play with a box like that.
[09:59:04] Sticking his box out for a walk.
[09:59:05] I said, even there's a box.
[09:59:07] It's a box, man. It says it's a BOTTABIEA box.
[09:59:11] I don't expect.
[09:59:12] What else could it be?
[09:59:15] It is a construct of our own new game.
[09:59:16] Don't try to block like it's like fetched with.
[09:59:19] Because you'd originally pitched the idea of the Nature's Coffin in an ideal world.
[09:59:23] How was that game supposed to play out?
[09:59:24] Or was it just counterpicked already in the draft anyway?
[09:59:28] They did a lot in this bottling.
[09:59:31] I think if they played again, I don't think it would go that badly, but it's also not in their favor.
[09:59:37] Axe is a super strong laner that has, like, you're building to piece, like, ring of protections early on,
[09:59:43] knowing that there's gonna be a good amount of harassment, let's call it from the Trian,
[09:59:46] because he was maxing out the Trians, but it's not enough, and the carry-to-carry matchup,
[09:59:51] or the off-lane carry matchup in this one, is always gonna be in your favor.
[09:59:55] Like, I think this hero also might need to be addressed, and I'm just gonna throw it out there.
[10:00:00] I think Collapse is gonna be playing action the next game.
[10:00:03] Okay, Lacoste is throwing it out there.
[10:00:06] We'll see if a spirit feel like catching it
[10:00:09] as we do some donuts on a box that has been crowned.
[10:00:13] Don't, it has been de-throwned now.
[10:00:17] But look at him go.
[10:00:19] Stick around everyone and we will be back
[10:00:21] with a game number three of Spirit versus Aurora.
[10:00:54] I am thinking
[10:00:56] Here I am on top of the world
[10:00:59] On top of the world
[10:01:06] On top of the world
[10:01:14] On top of the world
[10:02:17] I'm so good at it
[10:02:28] I'm so good at it
[10:02:37] I'm so good at it
[10:03:14] How I used to be, was so good for me In my mind all the time, though I'm not the
[10:03:44] I've waited such a long time
[10:03:51] And I just can't believe it's true love
[10:04:04] I had that love again
[10:04:07] Don't want it to stop
[10:04:09] to stop when you know you've got a good thing that makes you feel fine.
[10:04:20] Wherever it leads me, you know it's all fine.
[10:04:28] I never thought that this could sweep me up and down.
[10:04:34] I don't want it to stop when it's feeling just good
[10:04:46] Whenever you're around, my heart begins to pound
[10:04:50] Oh, I know you'll take it slow, no way to stop this feeling
[10:04:55] Where I'll be waiting for you
[10:04:59] And I just can't believe this new year
[10:05:06] Yeah, I don't want you to stop
[10:05:11] When you know you've got a good thing
[10:05:16] When you know you've got a good thing
[10:05:22] That makes me feel fine
[10:05:27] Wherever it leads me, you know it's all right
[10:05:35] I never thought that this could sweep me off the ground
[10:05:44] I don't want it to stop
[10:05:47] No, I don't want it to stop
[10:05:51] I don't want it to stop, I don't want it to stop
[10:05:55] When it's feeling good, feeling good
[10:06:03] Feeling is good, feeling is good
[10:06:21] Can you feel the power emanating from both of these two?
[10:06:50] From both of these two teams, Spirit and Aurora clawing for a position and minimum top three of a Dream League Season 29.
[10:07:00] It is upper bracket time, no one's eliminated yet, but pride will be lost, ego will be lost.
[10:07:07] You don't want to go out here, you don't want to fall down to the lower bracket.
[10:07:10] You don't, especially after performance you did have in the group stage.
[10:07:14] Arora, maybe not as much considering after what happened at Falakia. They did start very slow,
[10:07:20] managed to make a comeback in this one, but we'll have to see. And we might look at the bracket
[10:07:25] to see what it looks like. And there is Paravision already waiting after their victory earlier today.
[10:07:32] So Falcons had gotten their 2-0 against Tundra, and then they lost. And Spirit had gotten their 2-0
[10:07:38] go against Beppuam and I mean I'm not one to extrapolate off of a tiny sample size like
[10:07:44] that but they're gonna lose. Clearly. I see the trends. They're not familiar with this
[10:07:50] position now. Apparently not. Game 3s are not a part of their equation of drafts. They've
[10:07:56] never encountered it. They're two of Beppuam and they're like wait we still have to play
[10:07:59] Dota? That's not how this works. Yeah. You can't ban my snapfire again. That's cheating.
[10:08:06] And yet Aurora did it!
[10:08:07] As we get into the draft for the final game of this series, they do indeed ban out the
[10:08:11] Snapfire and take out Flogger and Pango as well, Spirit.
[10:08:16] Take out Lone Druid Tiny, WS's slash Nightfall's Doom, and of course the Makoto Puck.
[10:08:22] They respond to Aurora's clockwork with an Alchemist.
[10:08:26] This is a really rough one to let through for Spirit because they are crushing it on
[10:08:32] this hero.
[10:08:33] What I really liked that Fjord did was, you know, their Treant plus Grange Hero combo just got a little bit exposed in that game too, and they walked away from it.
[10:08:42] They slept to themselves. If you're going to ban out a Snapfire and the Queen of Pain, we're just going to take our Alchemist.
[10:08:49] Yeah, and last time they played, last three times they played Alchemist, they paired it up with Primal Beast, Queen of Pain, and Void's Frith, which are, in my opinion, three of the best Hagonum Sipters from the mid lane.
[10:09:01] Primal Beast is probably my favorite one in terms of what the hero does, but the problem is there is clockwork on the other side
[10:09:08] Which kind of ruins the hero with the pushback. They also did I believe one time with Largo
[10:09:14] But he also went for different items
[10:09:16] He also didn't really get the priority as much because I think this was the game where he rushed
[10:09:22] The Lotus Orb and they kind of owned even without the agonist and then he got it that it was pretty much over since that point
[10:09:29] Yeah, they did a great job in addressing the threat of the alchemist through the hero's
[10:09:36] eye.
[10:09:37] It enables.
[10:09:38] Don't do that.
[10:09:39] Stay on the cost because the cost is the genius here.
[10:09:45] Brian.
[10:09:46] He is the top of the leaderboard.
[10:09:48] Brian.
[10:09:49] Not after today.
[10:09:50] All misses for me.
[10:09:51] Oh?
[10:09:52] Yeah.
[10:09:53] Zero.
[10:09:54] All of them.
[10:09:55] I didn't guess.
[10:09:56] I don't know what this one is like yet.
[10:09:57] Who did you guess?
[10:09:58] Spirit! Okay, okay. Yeah, okay
[10:10:02] The data that Neil presented you're probably gonna lose now now I have two correlations if he got everything wrong today
[10:10:10] And you pick spirit and spirit doing this whole 2-0 into losing the serious thing
[10:10:14] That's two random anecdotal pieces of evidence that I can hold against them
[10:10:19] Correlation equals causation 100% I refuse to accept these anecdotes
[10:10:24] If there is a team that can adjust on the flight, is Team Spirit.
[10:10:28] Yeah.
[10:10:28] Historically.
[10:10:29] Because you also predicted them?
[10:10:31] Naturally.
[10:10:32] Of course, Neil.
[10:10:34] You know what? I would have predicted a playtime earlier today as well,
[10:10:36] but then when I looked at the street, everyone picked Navi and I felt like...
[10:10:39] I got baited.
[10:10:40] I got baited as well. You are one of the people who baited me, LaCos.
[10:10:43] What's that?
[10:10:44] Yeah.
[10:10:44] I was praising this team a lot, because they were playing so well.
[10:10:49] But anyway, back to this one.
[10:10:50] Talk about this one. Exactly.
[10:10:52] Clockwork also out of the equation so they can take Dawnbreaker, which is a hero that also ruins Dawnbreaker in the lane
[10:10:59] So I want to see a spirit can find something from a position 5 something that can you can't really pick these
[10:11:06] Enchantresses as you have no stun in the lane against Dawnbreaker. So you will have to find something
[10:11:13] like
[10:11:15] Rubik is okay, but I also seen the rubik plus hoodwink pairing which wasn't really good
[10:11:20] They're still gonna go with Primal which I'm still okay with because this hero just completely owns you go for consecrated raps
[10:11:28] This is something that Falcons
[10:11:29] Dead first I believe and it looked amazing. It gives you such an insane timing
[10:11:35] Yeah, it really does and you want to always have someone to play with too if you're hit with yeah, right?
[10:11:42] And we still don't know what heroes are available for Laurel. I
[10:11:46] I hope they leave it until the very end because when you think about the good
[10:11:51] alchemist combinations for getting an early axe the ones that are really
[10:11:55] effective are taken out which then leaves things like void spirit which you
[10:11:59] may potentially not want to play or swarm spirit which maybe you've lost a
[10:12:04] little bit of faith in. What do you think Brian? Yeah I mean I think they
[10:12:09] definitely needed to wait to show where this primal beast is going. I imagine
[10:12:15] It's more effective if the primal beast is mid. Yes in regards to giving it an axe
[10:12:19] So otherwise, you know, it's gonna be a little bit behind in levels and all that I feel like
[10:12:26] Against the clockwork, it's definitely not perfect. I thought they were gonna go for like storms or not stormed excuse me
[10:12:31] That they picked I thought they were gonna go for void spirit just because it's a hero that naturally gets away from the clockwork cards
[10:12:39] Like for the tempo and like primal beast does struggle in that matchup
[10:12:43] I'm all I there's a lot of synergy between Phoenix and Donbreaker the Phoenix turning it in today and night Donbreaker getting the full damage
[10:12:50] bonus from that I
[10:12:52] Don't know the Alchemist is I talked about this a few days. It's a weird hero right now
[10:12:56] I think that team spirit's gonna lose the early game and
[10:13:00] Aurora is going to have to be careful of that like one or two over extensions that could happen once the first acts comes out
[10:13:06] But I also think Aurora's draft is very high-tempo, like they have pretty much the only cool-down restricting them as Donalty
[10:13:13] But once they have the Donalty, they're pretty much almost certainly gonna find somebody whether it's with Clockwork or with the Storm
[10:13:18] I feel like
[10:13:20] The supports on the side of Team Spirit, I guess I'd ask you Mira, like right now
[10:13:24] I'm thinking like Clockwork is kind of the king of the map
[10:13:26] It's hard for them to kind of contest if he's just walking around like seven to twelve minutes
[10:13:30] How do you feel about that period of time where Alchemist is just farming and
[10:13:34] And like a war is going to be looking for aggression. How do you feel being like the hoodwink or the ringmaster?
[10:13:39] I mean it really depends on what middle-eater I'm playing with. We don't know if it's the primal beast from the middle-eater
[10:13:44] But if I've got something like a void spirit who's doing fine, I don't mind too much at that state of the game
[10:13:50] It really just depends on-
[10:13:52] If you have somebody to like play through-
[10:13:53] Yeah for sure because as a hoodwink and as a ringmaster you're not really playing near the clockwork in the first place unless he's starting on you
[10:14:00] True.
[10:14:01] So something like a board spirit. I can still see being really good here
[10:14:05] Okay, unless you guys are you think throwing primal with these versus clock is too difficult for primal
[10:14:11] Yeah, it's not a lane that you want to play but sometimes you might need to suck it up because I'm seeing
[10:14:19] Relatively strong lane like if you're seeing these
[10:14:22] One plus two combos because Rue can play hoodwink because he is the hoodwink player from a position four now
[10:14:28] He's playing five so they can have hoodwink in the safe lane if necessary and
[10:14:33] Also ringmaster plus primal beast is a strong lane, but not as strong against clockwork
[10:14:38] But you can still play that lane. I think it is doable. It's just a very difficult matchup
[10:14:44] You can always, you know, get put your speed and one of the supports try to drag the creep wave if necessary
[10:14:49] Because primal doesn't get too much. He's very good at turning the stacks even if some of these losing matchups
[10:14:54] You're still gonna be able to get like 11 full minute blink dagger in a lot of these situations
[10:14:58] Yeah, and with the way that clockworks are not even getting battery cells anymore, that makes it easier for primal abuse.
[10:15:04] In the past it was much harder to play the lane.
[10:15:08] Yeah, but seeing that they have Phoenix and Clockwork, this is most likely going to be Clockwork 4 and Phoenix 5,
[10:15:15] because Mira doesn't really play Phoenix, so I think it makes it easier for them.
[10:15:19] Yeah, it's going to, but they're going to probably shift things around now that there is a windranger,
[10:15:23] So overall better pairing is to have a clockwork with the Windranger
[10:15:29] around the king.
[10:15:31] Prediction king.
[10:15:32] Heavy is the head, they say.
[10:15:36] Where's the crown?
[10:15:37] I mean, I think Windranger is really good for the lane here, but I've never liked playing Windranger into
[10:15:42] Primal Beast and Alk heroes that just get up in your face and burst you
[10:15:47] even before you press Windrun.
[10:15:49] Um, yeah, I think Aurora's all in on the laning tempo, and I think they've got a lot of it
[10:15:55] So I think that it's gonna be very scary for team spirit to just just
[10:16:01] Weather that storm spirit
[10:16:04] Yeah
[10:16:05] But I the primal beast I think you have to put a minute. I'll be honest like I
[10:16:11] Think top lane is gonna struggle way too much. Yeah, you get levels from the mid lane
[10:16:15] I mean, I said Axe is, that Collapse is gonna play it, I still think it's very good, cause this is a core Windranger, to have another jump.
[10:16:22] It's not as effective against Dawnbreaker, cause you know that there's gonna be follow-up, but there's gonna be a follow-up save on no matter what you play.
[10:16:31] But I also see that Laurel is talking a lot on camera, but we also saw Collapse speaking a bit, but he's been slightly more silent.
[10:16:38] You don't think that he would like his kanka from game one?
[10:16:42] Oh, off lane primal.
[10:16:44] OK.
[10:16:45] Laurel and Voker.
[10:16:46] That's pretty awesome.
[10:16:47] That's not the hero I thought they would pick for Laurel here.
[10:16:50] Is there is one of the three
[10:16:53] elements for invoker or one of the three
[10:16:55] acts really game changing in the mid game?
[10:16:57] Like I know you have cataclysm.
[10:17:00] You have like the tornado one.
[10:17:02] What's the one that they take is the ghost walk
[10:17:05] where you're just pretty much moving.
[10:17:07] Caged it and dealing damage to people, which is really nice, but I don't know if you needed that early, so I want to see if maybe they give priority to collapse in this one.
[10:17:18] The other one's a Vector Targeted Ice Wall.
[10:17:20] That's AGS.
[10:17:22] It's Vector Targeted Ice Wall, mini tornadoes on the tornado or Cataclysm.
[10:17:27] Okay, so none of those really sound super imp... I know the tornado one's nice for clearing waves and stuff, but I don't think it's that useful for fights, so...
[10:17:36] Sure.
[10:17:37] Yeah, I don't think you ever want to give, as Alchemist, another hero in Ags that's meant to help them farm.
[10:17:42] I don't think that ever works, so it's almost certainly going to collapse in that case.
[10:17:46] They don't have like amazing cataclysms set up early game.
[10:17:50] Yeah, we'll have to see how this...
[10:17:52] I like seeing Laurel on this Invoker.
[10:17:55] He's bringing back to last dream league, where he was cooking on this hero for a while.
[10:17:59] Where it just seemed like he looked comfortable on it, he was in the zone.
[10:18:03] I like that it provides them just follow versus Windranger like a means to gank her early on and it gives them
[10:18:09] scaling and damage the only issue is
[10:18:12] Once or where I start running at that mid lane and just start bringing all of their bodies
[10:18:16] Can spirit put enough resources to help him or they're just gonna leave him to the wolves because now you have to invest resources
[10:18:23] Into your invoker
[10:18:24] They have a lot of heroes susceptible to getting ran on team spirit and voker and alchemist both hate that and I think
[10:18:29] Collapses in for a tough lane on primal against the clockwork windranger
[10:18:32] So I'm leaving for Aurora this game. I think they figured it out
[10:18:36] I think they I think they they also won the three game series Neil
[10:18:39] They're not they're not a series kind of wait is it was it Kory on clockwork? Is it clockwork?
[10:18:44] I imagine they'd be I would imagine they lane swap just because primal beats gets wrecked by yeah
[10:18:50] I think I think the win ranger clock is too strong of a duo and the clock is too good against the primal if they don't do
[10:18:55] That I put their stock a bit lower
[10:18:59] Sure, it's that Laurel to the excellent laning stage
[10:19:02] Last two games. Sure, they didn't win the last game, but he was cooking. Like, he is on point today.
[10:19:06] He's cooking the whole event, pretty much.
[10:19:08] He's on point.
[10:19:08] I'm gonna go with them. I'm gonna go with Team Spirit. My gut said, prior to the series, Spirit's gonna win it anyway.
[10:19:15] I'm slightly leaning towards the other drafts on Aurora, but I think Team Spirit, with the outplay, they got this.
[10:19:22] Your heart versus your brain. They're arguing against each other right now.
[10:19:25] And we'll see which one prevails. It's time for the final game of the night with Gareth.
[10:19:30] Yes, we do.
[10:19:32] We'll find out who goes on to meet Paris in the upper bracket final tonight as we get
[10:19:42] this third game of this series.
[10:19:44] A spirit with a bit more greed looking to try and drag this one out in Dorset fights.
[10:19:49] Well Aurora, a lot of legs, a lot of ways to run you down and run you over, and a lot
[10:19:53] of gap flows.
[10:19:54] The name of the game will be to stop this alchemist from getting out of control.
[10:20:00] Flash, Invoker mid, you can bring numbers to that fight, Stormbreaker, Soulguardia and Poppipam.
[10:20:06] And here if you're with the Primal Beast, you can run through the fights and I think Aurora have tools to accomplish all that if they execute as well as they did last game.
[10:20:13] So, the onus is on them to get a little more done, but I think it's well within this drafts wheelhouse and the WS Stormbreaker has a lot of fun.
[10:20:21] It's a monster on this hero, so I have high hopes that he can maybe repeat his performance from game 2.
[10:20:28] I generally don't think I've seen Dornbreaker lose a lane.
[10:20:32] For the games I've cast, WMAS in particular looks spectacular.
[10:20:36] But I could start here for Team Spirit, guarding that bottom bounty rune.
[10:20:39] I'm looking for first blood, trying to give it over to Alph.
[10:20:42] But no.
[10:20:43] Root will droid.
[10:20:44] I might be in a way.
[10:20:45] You get three runes for his death, and the first blood went to the support.
[10:20:48] So often I think that it's extremely easy to trade.
[10:20:52] Honestly, as long as the first blood doesn't go to one of the cores,
[10:20:54] and three runes does count for a lot across the lanes,
[10:20:57] A little extra gold in everybody's pocket goes a long way.
[10:21:01] A little additional D-Word to route.
[10:21:03] Looks like we are going to put this Clockwork bottom.
[10:21:05] They've got the Phoenix picking him out up top.
[10:21:08] So double range for Aurora.
[10:21:10] With a win range of Phoenix into this Primal Beast.
[10:21:12] And ringmaster for not me.
[10:21:14] The panel is saying potential lane swaps with Clockwork Blank top because he's good against the Primal.
[10:21:18] But it seems like comfort's the name here for Aurora.
[10:21:20] I could see it either way I think.
[10:21:22] It's a little awkward for Phoenix to go into the off lane here maybe.
[10:21:26] And maybe they just prefer to play the lanes with the players and the heroes in that priority.
[10:21:30] They value that over any sort of little advantage the lane soft creates.
[10:21:33] But I could have seen a good argument for it. I think that's valid.
[10:21:36] I do like seeing the ringmaster come back out. I think this is a hero.
[10:21:38] We haven't seen as much as we should.
[10:21:40] This lane is really strong with the triple dagger charge level 1 now.
[10:21:43] I just chase people down forever.
[10:21:45] Once they're on the back, but you just take advantage of it in a huge way.
[10:21:47] And he started with a strong mantaunic off of that first blood.
[10:21:50] So that could come in clutch here in your really laning phase.
[10:21:54] Action bottom.
[10:21:55] Make a coction being brewed up by a turret.
[10:21:57] Here's some WS here.
[10:21:59] There's a roof alongside.
[10:22:01] The bushwag pulls him all the way over to the side of the lane.
[10:22:03] And a sunstride!
[10:22:05] Oh, he tried to dodge back, but lull!
[10:22:08] Perfectly placed.
[10:22:12] An important kill for this invoker to get him off to the races.
[10:22:16] Surprise, more teams don't coordinate calling the mid.
[10:22:19] He used to jump mid.
[10:22:20] I hear my Kodo and you see the Mannerbar drop.
[10:22:22] You just instantly say Sunstrike and just prompt, you know, WS there to instantly change direction
[10:22:27] I feel like you could dodge more of these than we see
[10:22:29] Hmm, but we don't really see things coordinated too well. Maybe that was the call and it was just a little too late
[10:22:35] I'd like to see it one, but well played by Laurel. Exactly what you're looking for
[10:22:39] You don't have a lot of setup here in the early game
[10:22:42] But if you get to the late game, you know a bunch of heroes that can go in for you and a lot of stuff to play
[10:22:46] than that like mid-layer fight time period. So Volcker pick could be really
[10:22:50] gasky for the four of the game's skills and it is a debilitating pick for night ball.
[10:22:54] He's gonna have to go early if he could be in this game.
[10:22:57] That's no fun playing into all those spells.
[10:23:02] I'm so far 14-0 for the Invoker. Storm leaping out.
[10:23:05] I guess it's probably better time. Nice five-hands though. It's just non-stop
[10:23:09] rolling back and forth in his bottom lane.
[10:23:11] The alchemist only sitting at nine last hits while the dawnbreaker
[10:23:16] I'm even with that first death in the lane 14 and six
[10:23:20] So what do you think you're Gary? Are you gonna?
[10:23:22] I'm gonna break her. No, so I think I wrote one this game. Okay. Well, that's nice. I had alchemist as a hero
[10:23:29] Okay, I didn't ask that my question. Oh, is he gonna get it? Mira's dead?
[10:23:34] No, he's not Rue is
[10:23:37] Who's gonna get the load is
[10:23:39] Here's my question, Gary. Are you pulling in early aggs to the final here?
[10:23:43] Hmm.
[10:23:44] Or are you just playing the Alkstreeto?
[10:23:46] Yeah, it's Claps.
[10:23:48] Nice little kill up here. Should have put the clock up here, I guess.
[10:23:51] Yeah, maybe so.
[10:23:52] Okay, well, just die.
[10:23:54] I think the way we saw the draft develop, because in the green room, I was just asking you.
[10:23:57] Who are we picking here? Who are we giving aggs to?
[10:23:59] Well, I was going to ferry five.
[10:24:01] I said, what damage am I going to go to? And the ice ball is up the box.
[10:24:03] I mean, just die straight up one by one.
[10:24:05] What a fat death, honestly.
[10:24:07] Honestly, as the panel praises the first lane, he just gives up a terrible kill to Makoto.
[10:24:13] He won down the lane without basically any spells going into him yet.
[10:24:16] A lot of mana to work with.
[10:24:17] Just a freebie?
[10:24:18] Yeah.
[10:24:19] That was not Laurel's finest moment here in my series.
[10:24:21] Alright, can I have a chance to answer your question, SVG?
[10:24:23] Yeah.
[10:24:24] Please.
[10:24:25] I think you just play straight up, Alchemist.
[10:24:26] The way the draft developed, it felt like Yotaro was just saying,
[10:24:29] I'm gonna have a game for myself.
[10:24:30] I'm gonna get big and just farm and get huge because, well, they banned out the Largo,
[10:24:36] Queen of Pain, then the quap was gone, then you go Void Spirit, it felt like this whole
[10:24:40] axe pulling thing kind of went out the window.
[10:24:42] They missed a lot of the high party targets, I do think the Primal one is pretty damn good,
[10:24:46] shouldn't have narrated it here.
[10:24:48] I think Yatora will absolutely finish BKB before anything else happens, because the
[10:24:52] BKB is super strong in this game and I think he can play the Alk straight up here.
[10:24:55] It's not a bad Alk game, unless he gets destroyed by this Windranger which they have some tools
[10:25:00] to deal with.
[10:25:01] We've seen him do it before, so Yatora will have to make the call in this game as to
[10:25:05] the best path to go forward but right now they're getting smoked brother this is a
[10:25:11] backyard barbecue smoke vest right here triple CS leaders and the net worth
[10:25:16] ain't much prettier. Not me, he's just being burnt in his top lane as well. He's forced back.
[10:25:22] Even with the tonic he can't live, I'm gonna get a unicycle now. Clown is way
[10:25:28] back into the top lane but these lengths are heavily Aurora favored right now.
[10:25:32] They'll still meet the same fight anyway.
[10:25:37] Losing lanes with Invoker.
[10:25:39] Sometimes it compounds real quickly.
[10:25:42] You lose sidelines, it means the supports are freed up,
[10:25:44] and that means they can roam to you mid,
[10:25:46] and they can just crash your lane with numbers.
[10:25:48] Invoker does not respond well to that style of game.
[10:25:50] This could be very punishing for Spirit here,
[10:25:54] if Aurora are able to connect on some of these ganks.
[10:25:56] We see Laurel scouting with the Lord Spirit,
[10:25:58] already looking for these supports coming,
[10:26:00] I mean, he's just trying to survive right now.
[10:26:03] So what, they got their rescue and their
[10:26:05] California cheddar cheese sausages and side lanes,
[10:26:07] and they want a cornbread and mac and cheese out of mid?
[10:26:09] Lars is getting destroyed!
[10:26:11] Gonna roll in with a unicycle,
[10:26:13] Invoker barely staying alive now with a turnaround.
[10:26:16] Very important move from the two regents to Bort.
[10:26:19] Very important indeed, ready to protect him,
[10:26:21] that's what counts here.
[10:26:22] Warding for him as well.
[10:26:24] Though Sentry already placed down.
[10:26:26] I get instant view warded here though, it'd be pretty sad for Laurel.
[10:26:29] At least they take the power rune away from the storm, and fight before them.
[10:26:34] But it's only a Toro farming well this week.
[10:26:36] That's what they need.
[10:26:38] Just don't have enough.
[10:26:40] Collapse is already farming small camp and thinking about cutting waves and doing what
[10:26:45] he can, cause he's not laying straight up into the windranger.
[10:26:47] Especially on this.
[10:26:50] Ringmaster has ditched him.
[10:26:52] And Mira is being used as an up-bottom lane.
[10:26:56] Pushwack, anything.
[10:26:58] Now feeling arriving
[10:27:01] TP down here from the ring but Mira in an awkward spot where he's being surrounded
[10:27:06] So Spirit really trying to
[10:27:08] React and play as fast as they can with these two supports playing from lane to lane
[10:27:12] I don't mind the double roam here
[10:27:14] I think it's honestly worth losing a little bit on lanes that were already going poorly to find some extra kills since we're leaving
[10:27:20] Maybe set some more sunshades up so I actually like that spear called let's just do a roam
[10:27:24] Make sure we get a little bit done here instead of just sitting on static lanes that weren't working for us
[10:27:30] Sometimes the risk is you end up in an awkward spot of map and you lose an objective
[10:27:33] But the wisdom shrine will get collected here by collapse. That's a victory for spirit
[10:27:39] As Aurora bringing the supports bottom once again, they really want to attack this alchemist lane
[10:27:44] The irony here is this alchemy has been the best lane for spirit
[10:27:48] So in a way, they're happy to fight down here and defend it and it's not largely
[10:27:52] Exactly.
[10:27:53] Throw some strikes across.
[10:27:55] So in a weird way, Spirit are okay if Aurora throw numbers down here.
[10:27:58] It's gonna slow the Alk down.
[10:28:00] You're not happy about that, but yeah, you're invoker against the Parminate and that is
[10:28:04] a little more important right now.
[10:28:06] Very deep dive.
[10:28:07] Incoction going all the way back onto the Phoenix.
[10:28:09] Oh, it's not.
[10:28:10] I nearly have him.
[10:28:12] Sun strike.
[10:28:13] That's off the mark.
[10:28:14] I'm playing to the cocks now.
[10:28:15] It's Starbreaker on not me.
[10:28:16] We dodged it.
[10:28:17] I'm pretty free of it, but whoa!
[10:28:18] He's pushing a dive though.
[10:28:19] Oh, and he's pushing a die, though, as he cushions down to low ground, so the sick plays were not made.
[10:28:23] Nearly got the kill on Phoenix, but inches away.
[10:28:26] This guy's a beast, man.
[10:28:28] We've been watching him all week.
[10:28:29] It's been some time since I've been incredibly impressed by a new player coming in and just delivering.
[10:28:34] His mechanical plays on some of these spellcasters has been top-notch.
[10:28:39] He definitely has a very high instinct for the game.
[10:28:43] So, there were so many questions about, like, are you putting Roo POS 5, really? This guy's pretty good.
[10:28:47] You know, that's a big booster fill.
[10:28:49] You've got massive feet.
[10:28:51] And Gatorra gets the concoction off.
[10:28:53] Xemokarage going.
[10:28:55] It's very tanky. The power shot nearly slices him.
[10:28:58] Oh, damage from WS. Not quite enough.
[10:29:01] Tamed the beast off the mark, but they've stunned up the Windranger.
[10:29:04] Lug grenade into Tramp.
[10:29:06] Collapsed over the top of this.
[10:29:07] And now with a solar strike coming in,
[10:29:09] the Solar Guardian does,
[10:29:11] meaning the nightfall Windrangers healed up
[10:29:13] and gets a bit of distance with the Windrunner.
[10:29:15] He escaped. I thought he was dead several times through that fray. Now not me is the one trapped in the tree lines
[10:29:22] He's behind the dam by WS. He's finished off by the dawn
[10:29:26] A wild sequence because that collapse is being run out by Mikoto. How does he get out of there?
[10:29:33] If collapse did nothing he would have died because that's like what I hit him
[10:29:36] But he bumped him out of it. Just unfortunate. I thought he had the little tick of damage to put him over the top
[10:29:41] That would have been a huge kill for Spirit
[10:29:43] At least you're getting Invoker time again.
[10:29:46] Spirit would prefer to fight down there than have this game centered around mid lane.
[10:29:50] Because suddenly Lawl, he's straight back into the pack, so even if nothing happened this
[10:29:54] workout for Spirit, this is why I kind of just don't like Aurora attacking that lane
[10:29:58] so much.
[10:29:59] Like if you want to go down there before the Alex 6, sure, but the Atoma is already 6.
[10:30:03] Even if he dies in a sequence like that, it's just not the way you want to be progressing
[10:30:08] the game.
[10:30:09] You'd rather kill this Invoker two or three more times.
[10:30:11] And again, they're trying to deal with him.
[10:30:13] Yeah.
[10:30:14] He's got a whole bunch of committal.
[10:30:16] Back on the storm, he can sit back in towards him and get the kill.
[10:30:19] But this is a hero that, even though he's dying, he's got tons of ways to catch up.
[10:30:24] We'll see if this pays off in the long run for a war. I mean, that kill definitely felt nice.
[10:30:30] This is not something the alchemist is in freefall or anything.
[10:30:33] No, he's okay. He had a good enough lane phase. He's gonna have to recover off stacks or something like that.
[10:30:38] Also be interested to see who the spirit gives these stacks to and there's a roar of Mount the Pressure
[10:30:42] And I'm into the one who's nearly dead through four spirits and Laltin a great job shipping a lamp in
[10:30:47] He already has the hammer online so his farm rate's gonna pick up
[10:30:52] Little extra spell lamp two on these sun strikes and everything
[10:30:55] Now this is a hero we've seen from BZN plenty of it split the map
[10:30:59] Very irritating all ending farm on the other side
[10:31:03] Which is why you want to slow him down early because that gives you so much more time in the mid game before
[10:31:08] The annoying Mboka Ratdota kicks in.
[10:31:11] Stax did go to the primal, Glam says.
[10:31:15] Nice golems, but not for you.
[10:31:18] Gatoro very sad.
[10:31:20] And I got some gone.
[10:31:21] That was a little frogs and a Direwave Dragon to the camp.
[10:31:25] So the Alchemist is just too worried.
[10:31:28] That's some more stacks being made on that radiant side at the same time.
[10:31:32] So Aurora, they come back to this lane.
[10:31:34] Move Nightfall up at the top.
[10:31:36] Trying to smoke in towards him as well.
[10:31:38] I've seen the trample get used by collapse and they glyph the wave delaying things to hold him in place for a few more seconds.
[10:31:45] The character's going to make a zip forward, shackle shot latches, and try and onslaught away, but it's a well executed smoke gank from Aurora.
[10:31:53] Oh yeah, the Alkiria.
[10:31:54] Oh yeah, just sat there.
[10:31:56] Nice little move.
[10:31:58] Attacking something other than the Alkling here, very successful.
[10:32:02] Both Spirit supports were sitting on mid and bottom, so somebody was going to die in that minute.
[10:32:08] Just too much grief for their own good here, trying to maximize the experience.
[10:32:13] Alright, focus on the tier one.
[10:32:17] I'm not gonna make any rash decisions to go pushing up into Amjurks.
[10:32:20] Same focus standing there, that's a dangerous spot on the stand case.
[10:32:24] It feels like a whack of a game, it's like Spirit are just sending all these really greedy heroes these lanes,
[10:32:28] independently, trying to get as much gold as they can and then dodge the gank, in
[10:32:31] other words just slamming the hammer down on anybody that pops up.
[10:32:34] But then you lift the hammer and the alchemist pops up down the bottom lane.
[10:32:37] Exactly. It's like, oh, now the tutorial has space to go back in bottom. You don't want to let this alch
[10:32:41] free farm, you go there. Oh, now they're gonna do stacks. Well, we gotta get just the stacks, guys.
[10:32:44] Oh, it's too late. Oh, our mid tower died through invoker. You spend all this time
[10:32:48] running around, you may not get anything done.
[10:32:50] I'm gonna hookshot on the ringmaster, and Rue. Start up the clock work, and by the
[10:32:55] The sun strikes there. Who's coming out better from this situation?
[10:32:59] Clockwork nearly dies, but they're gonna kill off not me.
[10:33:02] Keeping their alive.
[10:33:04] Get a little bit of the end of that stack.
[10:33:06] Damage was kind of done. Spear got away with stacking his triangle and taking everything from it.
[10:33:10] Space for the out bottom.
[10:33:13] R Aurora getting enough.
[10:33:16] The blingy face went here. That's gonna be the question.
[10:33:20] Feels right on the edge to me. 3K lead is nice.
[10:33:24] Well, that's on Wind Ranger and the Dawnbreaker, who aren't necessarily the hardest to carry.
[10:33:31] You see this probably last dawn, doing some pretty incredible things, tanking up going
[10:33:37] for this Echo Staber, reacting and playing with the Kotos, who they can continually get
[10:33:41] aggressive as they really only rely on the Solar Guardian.
[10:33:45] A little stupid oaf as the big ulti's to get the cooldowns for.
[10:33:50] Nightfall ready for hacking, man.
[10:33:52] there well he's trying to block work trapped himself
[10:33:57] god I hate Voker dude oh this hero is so stupid
[10:34:02] he sets things up for himself does the damage himself
[10:34:06] what's a 1200 hp clock just to kill himself yeah just walks in and just don't
[10:34:11] kill some brown boots here honestly
[10:34:14] get to his courier again I mean why was it oh okay he's gonna buy Talisman so
[10:34:21] He's trying to save a little bit of time.
[10:34:23] He already has the relic though, so he didn't all lose anything on it.
[10:34:26] Good read with the scan now.
[10:34:28] I don't think the shield rune though, collapsed.
[10:34:31] Grabs it under the nose of the storm.
[10:34:34] I thought it was worth my roof.
[10:34:36] I think they'll get a read that the smoke is heading up top.
[10:34:39] So they'll look to defend WS with a move of their own.
[10:34:42] Hookshot ready.
[10:34:44] Now we'll see collapse in a moment.
[10:34:46] Clockwork you went for a different angle towards the Alchemist now pushing cogs into the ringmaster
[10:34:52] He's in the box. Let's slam it out of it though. This theory actually picks up the kill
[10:34:58] They're a pulverized
[10:35:00] Gatoro with the help of this thumb strike. They've got chains thumbs down get a trade
[10:35:04] perfectly played got the pulverized after the exact last tick and
[10:35:07] Radiance done on your tour. He's happy to get a little extra sys gold. Laurel gets involved, too
[10:35:12] That kill counts a lot more for spirit than the ringmaster does for Aurora here
[10:35:16] Get roost in bottom the whole time too, he's really had a lot of freedom down here.
[10:35:21] Normally you want to kick these supports out when they linger on these lanes and hit the tower, but it's been nightfall down here, not WS, and he's been afraid to push up super far.
[10:35:32] Now I like those 3s.
[10:35:34] All they're doing is killing support over and over again, but this rod of ATOS pick up just grabbed by the invoker and gets a ton of damage down on his wall.
[10:35:42] He gets the two of them, but you lose your ringmaster, but now the doorbreakers come in, you're torn up with his stun and collapse the ride with a TP forward.
[10:35:50] WS gonna get pummeled into the ground, two cores gone.
[10:35:53] It's an absolute disaster for a war. You cannot be giving away big kills like this.
[10:35:57] Outplayed?
[10:36:27] You cannot ask for anything better or closer here.
[10:36:31] Pops, wait, at the very end.
[10:36:33] And again, in Voker, man, this hero is so stupid in these situations.
[10:36:36] Like, no other hero gives you that burst damage there.
[10:36:39] He dealt 1,400 in 4 seconds or something.
[10:36:44] Just ridiculous when that meteor lands.
[10:36:48] What a handsome...
[10:36:50] Shut us through a halt.
[10:36:52] Yeah, it really does.
[10:36:53] And now you're stuck in this game wondering, uh...
[10:36:56] I really hope he doesn't pull an axe to some of these guys, you know?
[10:37:02] Looks like he's got one queued up.
[10:37:05] So the idea of half your tower is after the Rageants...
[10:37:08] Blink... Oh no, I was not gonna get Blink BKB. He's actually gonna straight axe.
[10:37:11] Okay. He was debating it, I think.
[10:37:13] Huh?
[10:37:14] This game feels a lot more comfortable for them now than it did a couple minutes ago.
[10:37:18] And he's like, you know what, I think we have more time than I thought.
[10:37:21] I can give an axe to the primal here,
[10:37:23] who I assume is gonna be the target and bring collapse online they can keep
[10:37:28] fighting for me dealing a lot more damage firing faster and I'm gonna
[10:37:31] recover anyway we didn't lose too much math they still the tier one bottom they
[10:37:35] still the tier one mid at 20 minutes this is exactly what spirit one in terms of
[10:37:40] map control we're already to take these powers out they're doing way too much now
[10:37:45] Laurel just keeps sitting around this tier one mid very difficult target to
[10:37:49] attack now. You missed your window. I honestly, where has Nightfall been?
[10:37:56] I joined a few of those early team fights but is this the difficulty
[10:38:00] win-ranger having to rush this mill there? Takes a while to get there.
[10:38:04] He's a little bit stuck. Now he's making a play. Shackles up an illusion but not me.
[10:38:11] He just hips away. Power shot down, taking down. We'll have wondered at the
[10:38:15] Sunstrike though, Chains done a clockwork, every kill Aurora gets is answered in kind by Team Spirit.
[10:38:21] They're ready, man. Ready to pounce.
[10:38:25] And they just have to better farm her. They have to help in the invoker, we're just gobbling up them half every time.
[10:38:30] The fight doesn't convert into something more.
[10:38:33] Do you have the Mjolnir on the Windranger? Maybe then we'll see Nightfog get involved a little bit more in this game.
[10:38:38] It's been pretty triangle oriented.
[10:38:40] They're lining up you at Toro. I don't know if you have the damage for this guy.
[10:38:43] Solar God is going to come in.
[10:38:45] Oh, it's over and out.
[10:38:46] Yeah, we'll play it.
[10:38:47] Burn by the sun rain.
[10:38:48] Good timing.
[10:38:51] That feels great.
[10:38:52] Just to do his closing on that ag's effect.
[10:38:54] Oh, he did buy it out, actually.
[10:38:56] Exactly.
[10:38:57] Just before dying.
[10:38:59] Kind of nice, man.
[10:39:00] Lala's going to get another solo kill, but nightfall, he's going to arrive.
[10:39:03] Not me with a safe, but through the box.
[10:39:05] Lala's freeing out there, and that was a supernova spent.
[10:39:08] And why?
[10:39:09] By Aurora.
[10:39:10] Cora!
[10:39:11] Interesting.
[10:39:12] Collapse could think about another entry.
[10:39:14] It's about to get an axe pool when the Alk respawns here and gets delayed a little.
[10:39:19] That is the Invoker Windranger matchup.
[10:39:22] Deputy Blast kinda removes your ability to skill him.
[10:39:24] Tornado removes your ability to kill him.
[10:39:26] You need detection.
[10:39:27] He wants to go swat.
[10:39:28] This hero just has so many spells that ruin your day until you get BKB, so it's gonna
[10:39:32] have to be second at a BKB here for my fall.
[10:39:35] That's nasty.
[10:39:37] And the Hanks.
[10:39:39] To the prime.
[10:39:41] To the prime.
[10:39:43] Close one. Here on the give. Look at this.
[10:39:45] He's going to get jumped on, but they're going to realize pretty quickly this tanky boy is difficult to bring down.
[10:39:49] And another wheel of wonder.
[10:39:51] Combined onto the storm spirit.
[10:39:53] On slow forward onto nightfall. Collapsed with a long range gap close.
[10:39:55] Finds the Phoenix's opening.
[10:39:57] They've taken down the Wind Ranger now.
[10:39:59] The Hookshot's up the mark.
[10:40:01] Keori, no dive, no supernova. Just getting trampled down, but they don't land the Bushwag.
[10:40:05] Mmm, the dagger lands!
[10:40:07] He's under tower.
[10:40:09] Ah, it's okay.
[10:40:11] The dagger doesn't do too much damage anymore.
[10:40:13] Not me! Look at poor with a sneaky ward!
[10:40:15] Cory, Cary just gonna sit here and tranquil boots back up.
[10:40:19] Smart play.
[10:40:20] There's all this like open season on the Aurora Heroes.
[10:40:22] You lose Windranger and Storm in the blink of an eye with...
[10:40:25] No, without an answer.
[10:40:26] Instant Ag's payoff on that primal.
[10:40:28] He's already got 1,300 more gold.
[10:40:30] So that just paid for it still.
[10:40:32] Yeah, that is my question.
[10:40:33] Why the primal over the invoker? This is why.
[10:40:36] And now with this Rotov-8-toss catch,
[10:40:38] I wish I could have dragged him away a little bit, but...
[10:40:40] Oh my, I just had to dump on the door and...
[10:40:42] They're cooking now.
[10:40:44] Spirit of taking this game over, you missed a lot of those early game windows.
[10:40:47] We asked, is it gonna fight you in the ass?
[10:40:49] Yeah.
[10:40:50] It's biting real hard.
[10:40:53] Big jaws on that primal coming for you.
[10:40:55] He is mega fat now.
[10:40:58] And the beauty of this strat, like, the reason this Alka's still broken is
[10:41:01] because he will scale into a true core in this game.
[10:41:04] Pulling the axe is a goal positive in terms of efficiency
[10:41:07] and you are powering up your other heroes to go fight and make space for you.
[10:41:12] So while they're busy dealing with this overfaring primal beast,
[10:41:15] the Alkaist is recovering and becoming a third core in this game.
[10:41:20] Isn't that what looks a little bit sad?
[10:41:21] He's gonna get that.
[10:41:23] It's not gonna look sad in a couple minutes here.
[10:41:25] Race up the rankings.
[10:41:28] Not me who gets that shot now.
[10:41:30] Tons just piling into the coffers of Team Spirit.
[10:41:35] A character on the Storm Spirit.
[10:41:37] Tine-Stand into BKB.
[10:41:39] And you've got to build defensive, like you're standing up in both of us.
[10:41:42] It's just going to be across the board, flacking bars to defend yourself.
[10:41:45] Necessary in this game.
[10:41:46] It's a great BKB game for Aurora.
[10:41:48] You're only worried about Pulverize, but if you can just get on top of Laurel,
[10:41:51] force the issue with the BKBs, ignore a lot of the damage, just bring him down.
[10:41:54] And the fight can look pretty good for you.
[10:41:55] You have guaranteed jump with Storm, Dawnbreaker, so...
[10:41:58] If you see Laurel, it's a guaranteed jump, guaranteed follow-up with Solar Guardian.
[10:42:02] The only thing you're really worried about is the escape act,
[10:42:05] potentially inhaling him out a little bit and, you know, he gets...
[10:42:09] four or five slide, he's gonna be a lot tankier, but for right now, he's still very subtle.
[10:42:13] So, as long as we get to beat him, he's here for a solid chance to win that fight with that timing.
[10:42:19] Give it some good execution.
[10:42:21] There's no way he's away, and that is gonna be more time for Collapse to hunt the map, Blink Dagger, online.
[10:42:26] Ah, jumps over the cocks.
[10:42:28] Sees the clockwork.
[10:42:30] And drifts it towards the end of the wheel of wonder.
[10:42:33] Ah, focus him down.
[10:42:35] She nicely lads, stuns.
[10:42:37] These wheels have been on point.
[10:42:39] I don't think he's missed a wheel.
[10:42:41] It smells tough to land on a pro game, by the way.
[10:42:44] It really is.
[10:42:45] It looks easy, but it's a very glitchy spell.
[10:42:48] Pulverize into concoction?
[10:42:50] Oh, my.
[10:42:52] They've got him?
[10:42:53] Yeah, he saw the reaction from the co-roller. That is not a kill. He gives away 99 times out of 100.
[10:43:00] Just did not see it coming.
[10:43:02] Look, look, look, not me standing, just watching WS Wonderback.
[10:43:06] They are very swiftly putting themselves in a position where they can jump me.
[10:43:10] I'll give up the unicycle from hell.
[10:43:16] I'll roll over the mother-penny for them.
[10:43:19] collapse he's got the chasm stone now even bigger spells this is yeah why why
[10:43:31] they're both there why am I here while I died this is all before the invoker has
[10:43:36] actually done any of this sneaky shit where he plays behind enemy lines push
[10:43:41] his towers forces four spirits forward is threatening your jungle and forcing
[10:43:45] you to kind of tighten up and play as five because Aurora very likely want to
[10:43:50] go for some of these pick offs with the storm solar guardian combo as soon as
[10:43:53] you do that invoker is just gonna open this map wide open even smoking in
[10:43:59] towards him team spirit playing top they're gonna dangle lal in front of
[10:44:03] them awkward smoke going to the corner of the map here maybe just trying to play
[10:44:10] the bait game on invoker they did scan out heroes movie top earlier so they
[10:44:15] I feel like this move is coming onto Laurel.
[10:44:17] I have an idea.
[10:44:19] Can he kill Snap from here?
[10:44:21] He's off the map, got him to see him.
[10:44:24] Successful dodge for Aurora, wasting a lot of time for 5 heroes up here.
[10:44:27] It should get them to the triple BKB and it will get them to the triple BKB, so they're a lot more prepared to fight now.
[10:44:39] I'm just gonna leave you with that dominant foot though.
[10:44:41] Look, they gave the sentry to Laurel for the bonus gold.
[10:44:44] Very nice.
[10:44:45] What a team, so generous.
[10:44:47] I'm screaming for it.
[10:44:50] Guys, I'm not first in that worth.
[10:44:53] I need to get there.
[10:44:55] Especially after game two.
[10:44:57] It means the pat is stats.
[10:44:59] They're a pretty atrocious one on the next profit.
[10:45:01] Look at that, they gave him an illusion and helped him farm too.
[10:45:03] Super helpful.
[10:45:05] So we shove out mid with illusions, scout down top jungle.
[10:45:10] Now it's...
[10:45:12] Not me. Let's see if he can escape from this.
[10:45:15] I'm gonna have to put on a real show.
[10:45:18] Because Mikoso and Nightfall caught on his tail with a dust.
[10:45:22] I'll kill him off before I can get him into the box.
[10:45:26] It's just not enough of that for a four-man smoke game.
[10:45:30] You have Alakalusion pushing the waves, Voker forming Triangle.
[10:45:35] Aurora need to exert some more force on the map right now with a triple B.
[10:45:39] Give me time to either in the form of, hey, we're gonna rush on and you have to confide this or
[10:45:43] Just start pushing waves more aggressively so you can set a better playoff on a score connection
[10:45:48] That is definitely the scarier option here
[10:45:51] You just don't have any deep words to play off of either
[10:45:54] And it's mid-tier ones for the whole life, 250 health. That's usually the
[10:45:59] Access point into the jungles. Still a big issue for them playing the map. There's the rock throw
[10:46:04] Clamps
[10:46:09] I'm quickly shifting to see if she was gone.
[10:46:13] And push down the spot on tier one.
[10:46:15] And even setting up in behind Mira.
[10:46:20] Not many.
[10:46:21] Has the spotlight.
[10:46:22] Shines it on the clockwork.
[10:46:24] In the cogs, you throw a jump, some strike over the top.
[10:46:27] Easy pickings onto Mira.
[10:46:29] Some cogs too.
[10:46:31] Value.
[10:46:32] First wheel that didn't land.
[10:46:34] Still got to kill anyway, and now into the roge.
[10:46:36] So, it's the objective I think Aurora needed to pressure Spear with.
[10:46:39] They're gonna be pressured even if you're responding, and I don't think you can give me this up with your triple E.
[10:46:45] It's gonna feel so bad.
[10:46:47] Clockwork, I'll buy back with 10 seconds left.
[10:46:49] No.
[10:46:50] Just all this though. It's not super fast. You do have an egg to play around with here.
[10:46:54] Try and laser out.
[10:46:56] In the meantime, you're getting Sunstrike, Bushwax, Phoenix, getting Pukus down.
[10:47:00] Rock!
[10:47:01] Pretty close to death.
[10:47:02] In fact, Collapse just gets him.
[10:47:04] Look at that! All the back is not me! He's been the director in this game.
[10:47:09] Running things. Scouting people, starting on them.
[10:47:16] There's no escaping him.
[10:47:18] And they haven't finished off Roshan, though.
[10:47:20] I've got a third of his health remaining.
[10:47:22] Phoenix down for 25, but Spirit would love to get a core kill before popping back into the pit.
[10:47:27] And that's what they're looking for in this mid lane with a box throw!
[10:47:30] What the W is? How do they do it?
[10:47:33] wait what did they see him? I mean they have this ward but I clicked this ward
[10:47:37] and it did not see him there. Oh it does eclipse the snare. No way. It clips the
[10:47:43] ramp with a little glimpse that is nasty stuff to him.
[10:47:49] He's going to zip in with a BKB, he's solo guarding on the invoker trying to focus into
[10:47:53] it but he's got to put it in the box. My ball is being dealt with. BKB out. Try and
[10:47:57] break free. Kill the Toro. The Alchemist dropping low and they've got the takedown on him.
[10:48:01] Sunstrike's not gonna land either, because he was held in place now as a Superdiver Sunray!
[10:48:05] Aurora, somehow, some way they've got it done!
[10:48:09] Double buyback!
[10:48:10] Collateral!
[10:48:11] And Arkanis, both dead!
[10:48:13] WS and Mary are right, required to buy back as they shift into the pit.
[10:48:18] It's enough to finish the Roshi, it looks like it is.
[10:48:20] Great fight for Marora, it's absolutely worth the buybacks here.
[10:48:24] Roshi's nice!
[10:48:25] And they'll put the Aegis on Makoto.
[10:48:27] Don't need Nightfall there to claim this, make good use of it.
[10:48:31] Spirit, they were feeling themselves there, but that's still a tough fight with the Triple
[10:48:36] DKB and the Supernova and a Dawnbreaker combined, just rejoin.
[10:48:40] Too many lives to get through, not enough gas in the tank.
[10:48:43] If Nightfall dies, I think Spirit can clean this up.
[10:48:47] But they do not finish him off, and man, he does a lot of damage to the Toro.
[10:48:52] His ult ran out at the perfect time for Nightfall, but just run it down.
[10:48:55] He gets stunned and Triple ran into the Sun Strike.
[10:48:58] A lot of things just not adding up for spear to tail into this fight.
[10:49:03] And without the Alk, there's no way you're killing an egg in this game, so it's always
[10:49:06] something to worry about.
[10:49:07] I can play around.
[10:49:08] Big win for them.
[10:49:09] It's a stem of bleeding here.
[10:49:10] This game was fireling a little bit.
[10:49:13] Now you stabilize, now you get more time to farm up some damage.
[10:49:16] I say that, Laura, straight back on the hunt.
[10:49:20] It has not me, it has the slowest auto attack of all time to kill the Lord.
[10:49:24] That's four staff, that's the way for the bush flags on strike.
[10:49:28] High four, charging forward, sprinting in.
[10:49:34] Yeah, roge's done everything into that roge contest.
[10:49:37] My actual spirit can't run away with this game.
[10:49:40] I'll still, I'll still stick rock to it.
[10:49:43] I can't, I can't believe it honestly.
[10:49:46] A little glimmer of vision off that observe award.
[10:49:49] So now for spirit level of waiting, because that Aegis has three and a half minutes left on it.
[10:49:55] Get your Toro into some of these big items.
[10:49:58] Try and tank him up without a Salkyras.
[10:50:01] Didn't finish off.
[10:50:02] Flipped near over on the invoker.
[10:50:05] And the Conal Beast is still trying to shift into the Shields' Car, but it's such an expensive item.
[10:50:09] It takes a little while.
[10:50:11] So Aurora, how did that wind in their sails to play with smokes?
[10:50:15] Get aggressive.
[10:50:16] Use these BKBs, use the Aegis.
[10:50:18] And as best you can to take over the map
[10:50:23] Even though you won that teamfight I got Roshan drop the net let's leave down by about a thousand but
[10:50:29] Very farms so quickly they back up to 5k
[10:50:33] It's a momentum here
[10:50:35] Well confidence to just jump in with this storm and the whole the whole line of functions if the storm can go in
[10:50:40] Aggressively because then you have the slower guarding connection
[10:50:43] You have the Phoenix damage follow up you have a shackle that can change someone off of vortex
[10:50:47] But almost none of this functions if someone doesn't lead the fight off in it is really hard for nightfall to lead this game
[10:50:52] Running into this in this invoker. It's just unlikely you catch him
[10:50:56] That pick up support
[10:50:59] Finding the extremities of the map. I feel okay
[10:51:03] Hook show there is
[10:51:05] Merrimack short hook and can't escape
[10:51:07] Okay, pick off leading into pick off suddenly win ranger
[10:51:11] Data is done. Real damage online here for Aurora. Amp damage the bottle for
[10:51:17] Makoto's break into the torment this game has. Turned once again.
[10:51:23] Mirror's dead though. Oh, he got the shot. Rewarded. Sunstrike attempt.
[10:51:29] I'm gonna laugh. I haven't killed anyone anyway. It's been a while since I've seen someone die to Torm, but
[10:51:35] I will say the next round of items for Spear are a little scary here if you just let him get through freely.
[10:51:43] If you let Laurel get to BKB or something, if you let Collapse get to Shivos, which is pretty much guaranteed here.
[10:51:48] But I'm also looking at this AC Abyssal build up for you, Laurel.
[10:51:52] It's really good in this game because you don't have BKB control, so if the Owl gets through Abyssal, it's going to count for a lot here.
[10:51:59] AC already done. He's farming so fast.
[10:52:04] These are big items in this game, big armor items, big scaling items.
[10:52:08] I feel like Aurora are stronger now in the fight, and they should try and force that if they can.
[10:52:19] Imagine trying to place this ages a bit more as well.
[10:52:23] Long's going to pop the Lincoln, but they're still starting to land on the gun, so...
[10:52:26] He's dead here.
[10:52:27] First life's gone.
[10:52:29] Now, two spirits.
[10:52:30] Are you going to commit?
[10:52:31] Smoking hood rink and ringmaster, Yatora goes in,
[10:52:34] forces BKB out, they've got a pulverizer that might fall, but the spelling god is gonna land.
[10:52:38] Now there's a box play to try and disengage, but a stupid-ever slug-brain with a damage output of Aurora blowing up collapse!
[10:52:45] And not me follows him! Hookshot not gonna land though!
[10:52:48] Look at the Koto, so boldly zipping forward, knowing that they're on the run,
[10:52:53] they've got the numbers advantage to find another one.
[10:52:55] I can't play Sierra Wayne for that.
[10:52:57] It's so hard to commit and kite out the spells because you have the solar guardian coming down, you have hookshot, you have two chasing cores in the storm of the winter ranger.
[10:53:06] You're not getting out of there, even if you BKB get four staff trying to onslaught away.
[10:53:10] And the damage was just overwhelming, this day it was winter ranger with serrated ship, and then the sliced collapse up.
[10:53:18] Little miscommunication to here right, the alt goes in, no one goes with him and he starts to run away, then the primal goes in.
[10:53:23] But she don't have the invoker combo because he already dropped the meteor on the first run and I think that's a huge deal here.
[10:53:30] Spirit really struggling against Triple B's giving supernova with this lineup.
[10:53:34] Yeah, I wonder if the idea was out Lincoln's mom when they pulverized after?
[10:53:38] So it felt like that was what Yattrow was going for.
[10:53:41] Well, it claps to jump the gun.
[10:53:43] He knows that he grabs Nightfall in this game.
[10:53:47] You know, there's no Lincoln's on Nightfall yet. It's the best target to find.
[10:53:50] Right.
[10:53:51] But that's the issue with Aurora's lineup is you can't jump Windranger or Storm and fully commit because of how much save there's in this game, how much counter play.
[10:54:00] Clock exists.
[10:54:02] Solar Guardians' clock exists. Supernova gets dropped, Dexter. Target gets sunrayed.
[10:54:06] So you either have to keep playing fights off the long-range poke assassinations like we've seen, or kind of dangle Laurel in front.
[10:54:13] Like we saw there, if he's putting some combo on the Storm, it kind of forces Aurora to make a decision or potentially jump in poker, and then at that point your big boys can commit.
[10:54:21] You have a lot more space to play with.
[10:54:24] I'm gonna turn the corner.
[10:54:27] Make he lead.
[10:54:29] Entirely disappears.
[10:54:31] Aurora with a slight nose advantage and going for another smoke.
[10:54:37] Stormbreaker.
[10:54:38] Just sit and farm and wait for the Stollard Guardian in as they see collapse.
[10:54:42] Catch him with a Shackler shot and the damage from the Windranger shreds through him while McCutter is found low.
[10:54:47] Now the Stollard Guardian can come in.
[10:54:49] Chain through a couple of catches onto these core heroes, and Team Spirit is being separated.
[10:54:56] Yatoro's in the fountain, just watching his team get decimated.
[10:54:59] I had to keep you out. No way to stay in that fight, and that has been the name of the game.
[10:55:03] They cannot stand their ground, but it's overwhelming damage from Nightfall.
[10:55:07] They have no control for him, just running in.
[10:55:09] And the saves are not enough, you have one box, but...
[10:55:12] I'm already an old fire out on WS, so what's your ringmaster really doing in this game
[10:55:19] at this point?
[10:55:20] He has been a beast.
[10:55:21] Not one of the signature heroes here, every solar guardian in it is just a death sentence
[10:55:25] for one of these team spirit cores.
[10:55:27] 5k leading out for a war, completely flipped this game.
[10:55:32] Thought the spirit would be scaling a bit harder at this point in the game, but can't
[10:55:39] I can't take the ground, can't play fast.
[10:55:43] Oh, it is this, this rig master. He was gridded, laughing, honking his nose the whole way through the laying stage.
[10:55:50] Now he looks like a clown.
[10:55:51] He does indeed.
[10:55:55] There's no more space for Dollybast. I swear this dawn breaking hero.
[10:55:59] Plays like a specter. It is another carry from your plane.
[10:56:03] Oh yeah.
[10:56:04] Just farm through jungle camps, join your team when you need me, but you are just scaling
[10:56:10] all the way.
[10:56:11] And I had my qualms about this Windranger.
[10:56:14] It didn't really do anything the first 15 or 20 minutes.
[10:56:18] But after that mule now, then into BKB, they swung into action.
[10:56:21] He's scaling.
[10:56:22] It's a nice matchup against the Alk.
[10:56:25] Alk really struggles to fight this year on the late game, because he can just windrun
[10:56:28] and focus fire you down.
[10:56:29] There's so much overworldly burst damage that overrides your region.
[10:56:34] I'm not sure Spear can fight until Alchemist with Fistful, which is such a long way away,
[10:56:47] but I think it's the reality of the situation, and even then it's going to be double Lincoln
[10:56:51] Spear on the side of Aurora, plus that Solar Guardian that can still come in.
[10:56:55] It's going to be a Fistful on WS, already level 25.
[10:57:01] Our spear getting outscaled in this game kind of feels like it.
[10:57:05] Even with Voker, I'll come as the customer.
[10:57:08] I'm just not sure how they can get more scale out of this lineup in a way.
[10:57:14] Given Voker primal, a lot of the scales are based on surviving and getting multiple rounds of spells off.
[10:57:20] And you can't survive against this lineup.
[10:57:23] It's just no way.
[10:57:25] Yeah, because they did multiple rounds of spells, but they're also kind of all in in the way that they've been trying to function, but it's pulverized.
[10:57:31] I'm a rorist, I have all these reset tools.
[10:57:34] So you need like, I dunno, can't refresh BKB anymore.
[10:57:39] It's gonna literally collapse to find his angle.
[10:57:41] Going A on disc on the primal.
[10:57:44] That just feels like a, you know, I don't really know what to buy so I'm gonna go A on
[10:57:47] just trying to buy.
[10:57:49] I think you need hexes here.
[10:57:54] I don't know, blade mail or something?
[10:57:58] They're BKB.
[10:57:59] This is the issue.
[10:58:00] If you can kite out the BKBs and re-engage, I would say, spirit of a higher chance of
[10:58:06] scaling here.
[10:58:07] They have not been able to kite these fights out.
[10:58:09] There's the Abyssal for WS, there's the Parasma for the Storm, Aurora are bringing the heat
[10:58:13] right now.
[10:58:14] Enrush hands alive.
[10:58:15] Spirit all of us are smoked though.
[10:58:19] See the rock get thrown into mid to blink, Abyssal blade straight on the clock, mirror
[10:58:23] is gone, buys back immediately.
[10:58:25] Snap of the fingers.
[10:58:27] I'm going to wait down the occult and returns, I think you're right.
[10:58:32] That is the assassination play of the spirit.
[10:58:34] You can go for the one target and just instantly try and bail.
[10:58:38] You have to be very disciplined about it.
[10:58:41] They do have a Bissell on the Occamist.
[10:58:43] Helps a little bit here.
[10:58:45] Aurora just trying to finish up the Lincolns on Nightfall so he has a bit more protection here.
[10:58:51] And on the rush, by any means.
[10:58:56] Aurora is the one who knows what the vision is.
[10:59:00] You might fall back in the core just to back up farm a few more jungle camps before they start this standoff of Eroshaan again.
[10:59:09] Level 20 Phoenix.
[10:59:13] More sunray damage and dumping onto these tanks for heroes.
[10:59:16] There's another situation here where BKB timings and usage are very important for Spirit.
[10:59:22] Well, Lincoln's fair for the Windranger, even more protection.
[10:59:28] There it is.
[10:59:29] They're fully online right now.
[10:59:31] Donut buybacks.
[10:59:32] That's kind of the one thing Aurora are missing for this Rocheway.
[10:59:36] They have the Phoenix buy.
[10:59:37] It's, you know, a lot of gold.
[10:59:41] Yotaro gonna go for one of his favorite items now.
[10:59:46] He's at the Bloodthorn.
[10:59:48] No, he needs some way to get more damage onto this Windranger.
[10:59:53] Just so squishy.
[10:59:54] If he gets Focus Fired, he's gone, I think.
[10:59:58] He needs Box or Force Dazz or something.
[11:00:03] Down the clock.
[11:00:04] That's a dieback.
[11:00:05] Yeah, but the Stollard Guardian's gonna come in.
[11:00:08] Oh, Tornado.
[11:00:09] That's the dawn of the storm.
[11:00:10] Now Gleipnir in on his WS, who's out of mana pretty much.
[11:00:13] There's go rocks thrown in and I go on to him with your Toro starting off with a damage from this wind ranger
[11:00:19] They need the box first case the beat him in your Toro turning try to do with the act
[11:00:23] But he disappeared nullified and gone for a hundred seconds. Yeah, you got the clock work
[11:00:28] But you lost you carry collect a lot to do now
[11:00:31] I got the kill range of though they find nightfall go in and blow him up Phoenix God as well
[11:00:36] He's done. We lost our axe farmer, but the two real carries emerge
[11:00:41] And what is the difference figure that fight Aurora they stick around without vkb's
[11:00:46] Spirit are still alive on two of those recourse that is enough to re-engage
[11:00:50] No vkb's no shot of surviving against this overwhelming spell damage
[11:00:56] The atorio he jumps the gun there pays with his life, but they used everything when that alchemy used the supernova
[11:01:01] They used all three vkb's solar guardian was already thrown out earlier. So what was really left in the tank at that point for Aurora?
[11:01:07] a great four-staff here as well. At this point you're in the clear. I don't think you have to jump here if you're your Toro.
[11:01:13] I think you just keep poking, do it for response. Oh, like you instant run here.
[11:01:16] He's kind of man-fright. And this focus fire is always just gonna absolutely debilitate you.
[11:01:21] But ultimately, look, DKB's supernova down, yeah, you get out.
[11:01:26] But now you're stuck.
[11:01:28] In the spirit, they're resetting cooldowns.
[11:01:31] They're waiting, they're lurking. Clatches, use that moment to get straight on the windranger.
[11:01:35] decimated and these tornadoes again proving problematic as mirror is gonna
[11:01:41] feel the pain in this pump spot as well three deaths in quick succession out this
[11:01:47] clump quote. Something a rough one as you get hunted down relentlessly by spirit.
[11:01:51] Val you pick off going into this Roshan. No way no Roars to take. Just getting out
[11:01:57] maneuvered out playing in this teamfight. Yeah Alex gonna respawn here gonna move
[11:02:01] five on four for Spirit. A Roar can definitely contest though that BKB back
[11:02:05] up they have supernova 15. Storm zips in. Roshan nearly dead. Solar guarding gonna land
[11:02:11] on to the big man himself. Roshan's dead. Then comes Yatoro though and it just takes
[11:02:15] up the Aegis. Turns on the dorm breaker. Collapse comes to help him out. He's in BKB. WS just
[11:02:20] dies without pressing a single spell. Got hit by a rock man. He landed, broke both knees.
[11:02:26] Daisy's style just fell down the stairs. Now a concoction's launched in and pops the
[11:02:31] The link is on the phoenix, he's gonna get back into his base, but my team spirit just
[11:02:35] walks into the pit and says thank you very much!
[11:02:37] You can't say that dude.
[11:02:42] You can't say that.
[11:02:43] What did I say?
[11:02:44] Broke boat is, that was such a funny analogy actually, because I heard the sound effect.
[11:02:48] You know the sound effect when you fall, it's just the crunch.
[11:02:51] That's what I heard when you said that, you just crunched his way into the pit and then
[11:02:54] got hit by a rock.
[11:02:55] The amount of times I've died and tasted it.
[11:02:59] He just kept talking, not BKB. I think he could always be BKB out of this, right?
[11:03:03] I mean, go with a good move. Go straight on in.
[11:03:06] The thickest brain rod in the whole fight.
[11:03:08] Oh, no, he had plenty of time. Okay.
[11:03:10] He had a full second there, but he got rocked in the face.
[11:03:14] And just chain-stunned 100 to 0.
[11:03:17] Perfect chain-stun from Spirits.
[11:03:20] They are a 16 when it comes to clutch spell cast. You always gotta give it to him, but...
[11:03:24] Makoto Ibarra WS did himself dirty there. I thought he had a lot of time to press BKB and think about what he wanted to do
[11:03:31] Maybe a consequence of that bottom fight where they press BKB's turning a tower and we're like hang on
[11:03:36] Yeah, but that is you're going in the pit. I mean you're getting the air dropped into enemy territory. You gotta know what's up
[11:03:43] Poster because straight back into this one
[11:03:46] Another corner turn around
[11:03:48] The grass swings all the way back up towards their side wild game
[11:03:52] And now they have refresher level 25 invoker radio definitely blast plus double combo
[11:03:56] That's a huge deal here for spirit and they have aggs on the ring master
[11:04:01] That is double escape after a huge deal when you're stalling up against the vkbs. I didn't think they would get this item on him, but
[11:04:08] Puts a lot of pressure on that single nullifier
[11:04:11] WS
[11:04:13] Delivery back and forth
[11:04:15] Still lots to give and storm spirit starts working on his agonium scepters and potential for that big aoe vortex to come in
[11:04:21] the blue hole could be huge here.
[11:04:24] Hex is on a lot of these supports too.
[11:04:26] Rue is flying his Hex out and we saw Hex be defeated
[11:04:30] for a cavalry on this Phoenix,
[11:04:31] so potential initiation is coming from the back line now.
[11:04:37] Something else to look out for.
[11:04:41] I will say this Ringmaster Ags, I think,
[11:04:43] it's one of those that doesn't look that strong on paper,
[11:04:46] but in these late game fights,
[11:04:48] it just makes such a big difference
[11:04:49] being able to chain, save somebody, or save two targets at once.
[11:04:54] Just have more uptime on it, like, feels really nice to play with.
[11:04:58] Sometimes in these late games, you have an enemy team playing against it,
[11:05:01] it's like, everybody go on and gets boxed.
[11:05:03] This guy gets boxed, this guy gets boxed, now there's a wheel down,
[11:05:05] now there's another box, it's just, it's a nightmare.
[11:05:08] You really have to make the dispels count.
[11:05:10] There's one more.
[11:05:11] In total, 6.4 seconds of box against the 7 second DKBs,
[11:05:15] and it lines up so perfectly.
[11:05:19] What I'm gonna do is save a couple of people until anything's out Aurora on the back foot
[11:05:27] It's stuck in their face
[11:05:29] Still a lot
[11:05:31] For either team to end this game though. That's kind of crazy part
[11:05:34] I don't think either team is really close to ending this game
[11:05:36] So you still have to think about how to maximize your lineup and continue to scale here
[11:05:44] Especially I'm gonna consider buybacks
[11:05:46] But right now Aurora holding three cool buybacks
[11:05:49] Spirit's playing pretty close together.
[11:05:55] Diavision is seen them move up towards the top lane.
[11:05:58] Aurora know that they can reclaim their ancients.
[11:06:01] Move down south.
[11:06:03] The Twin Gate allows Spirit to pivot from one side to the other pretty quickly.
[11:06:08] And now Nightfall has shown on that wave.
[11:06:10] And he knows.
[11:06:12] Turn around and away.
[11:06:16] Nobody's being left behind.
[11:06:17] No stragglers.
[11:06:18] was no individual targets. Did we play out this Crella's Crochet on Collapse? I feel
[11:06:24] like we never see this site. I actually really like this site, but very cool to see it out
[11:06:30] here. Can't get nullified, but is a pretty nice light game tool for just surviving against
[11:06:36] Focus Fire here or some of the Storm Raid Clicks? Yeah. Wonder what prompted him to go
[11:06:41] into this game? You know, other than, yeah, I want like some Go-Septer build up against
[11:06:45] focus fire but it is really not an item we steal a lot it can be an anti heal
[11:06:52] item is the restoration is Phoenix heal from Sunray the same as I've lost
[11:06:56] track honestly with all the changes his health restoration it just sucks all
[11:07:03] healing because they would say all to restoration so that's gonna suck if Sun
[11:07:07] Ray's on someone try to top them up it's an audio item I'm not I'm not sure I
[11:07:13] I ever would have thought about it in a game like this, see if it pays off.
[11:07:17] It does remove...
[11:07:20] Can he trample in Ghost Form?
[11:07:23] I guess I never really thought of that.
[11:07:24] Huh.
[11:07:25] Or does he deal no damage?
[11:07:27] He should deal no damage, right?
[11:07:30] Would it?
[11:07:31] Because the Ghost Form is not able to attack.
[11:07:34] But the trample just uses your attack damage.
[11:07:36] Yeah, I guess that's just a magical spell.
[11:07:38] So it probably works.
[11:07:39] A spell, right? I think it would work.
[11:07:42] That's a pretty cool idea.
[11:07:43] Nice synergy.
[11:07:45] He's level 25-2, he took the colossal bonus.
[11:07:48] I think the pulverized talent used to be the auto take here.
[11:07:51] Claps says I want a little more slow resistance in AoE during my trample.
[11:07:57] He will have 100% slow resistance in trample.
[11:08:04] Which is kind of wild.
[11:08:06] That was pretty great for him to skip out of the team flight.
[11:08:09] Play back and forth.
[11:08:10] back and forth actually more than a hundred percent 104 104 percent that means
[11:08:16] he if you try and slow we'll speed up it's the door to that jump in from the
[11:08:23] storm of the clockwork they found the ring last time he's gonna keep on going
[11:08:27] as the solar guardian tries to land it on Phoenix they heal him collapses in
[11:08:31] onslaught towards mirror blow him up the trackball now the dawn break of BKB
[11:08:35] healed by the Sunray and a retreat from Aurora double the buybacks from the
[11:08:40] position falls, but it's still Team Spirit. We feel comfortable knowing that a bunch of
[11:08:44] big ulti's have been spent. They can look for another go.
[11:08:49] No Dom, BKB, no Storm, BKB, unlikely Aurora really wants to take this fight. They did get
[11:08:56] the egg off though, and they did use Refresher on Invoker earlier, so it's ticking right
[11:09:01] now. 100 seconds left.
[11:09:03] I'm just going to realize that the flames are more important.
[11:09:10] I've drawn Aurora into that mid-spot.
[11:09:13] I'm going to shove things out.
[11:09:16] One of the hoodwink.
[11:09:17] I'm skipping into the trees.
[11:09:19] I'm going to gather up some lotuses first.
[11:09:21] Bet the storm is scary.
[11:09:23] Got to that ultra lake in with the Parasma Ag Shard, even as Conjur's catalyst.
[11:09:28] Two times a load overload, attack bounce.
[11:09:32] If Makoto gets a big pull, the fight can just end.
[11:09:39] Such a delicate tyrant act to walk his spirit.
[11:09:43] Collapse is leading.
[11:09:45] Sheva's guard sees them, enters on the Phoenix.
[11:09:48] They've stopped his pulverized throw, and they turn.
[11:09:50] They've got all slept inside with the Meeple landing though.
[11:09:53] They've zoned Aurora.
[11:09:54] Got real a kill on the Dawnbreaker.
[11:09:56] Start things up.
[11:09:57] Spirit can now reset.
[11:09:58] Shakrishva launched, but they forced him away.
[11:10:00] Storm trying to chase.
[11:10:01] a chase uses his vkb but the back hold us not in comes the alchemist thumbs up
[11:10:05] the gun who forces him away now clockwork rough spot to be in but it
[11:10:10] got a hookshot to save the collapse oh destroy the clockwork on tonight for
[11:10:15] double kill damn why are we with a fagabizah
[11:10:19] it's like decimated him there well he could definitely trample during cruiser
[11:10:25] yeah that answers that question and oh he can the 80 we on this trample with the
[11:10:29] colossal bonus is just you can't get away you just can't get away your
[11:10:33] humans getting sucked in he's trampling on your ass you're getting broken you're
[11:10:38] getting roared at
[11:10:41] primal icons everywhere this is a giga chat primal beast right here he just
[11:10:48] starts the fight off he does not think he did this but I guess you're getting
[11:10:51] hook shot either way he gets a three-man core pull and you lost the fight
[11:10:57] Yeah, I can't believe it.
[11:11:01] Where his rifle enters now?
[11:11:04] He got wading on some BKBs, but Don did not have BKB in the fight, so he just jumps into wheel, gets clowned on, which is gone.
[11:11:13] Not me, it's been ruining it on these entries, and then at this point, ah, again, you're out of BKBs, and if you're out of BKBs, the spear can reengage.
[11:11:20] The fight's fucking done, so...
[11:11:23] You gotta get more done in that interval, you gotta get some stuns to land, I can't believe it.
[11:11:27] I hope the recores have lost the fight that bad.
[11:11:29] No, unbelievable.
[11:11:31] And now you're losing buildings.
[11:11:32] The attack speed's on this Alchemist.
[11:11:34] Yeah, did we mention a Lackardy in this game?
[11:11:36] No.
[11:11:37] Now he's always been there.
[11:11:40] It's a pretty nice combo.
[11:11:42] It really is.
[11:11:43] And then Roshan's just respawned as we're clicking into place.
[11:11:47] Spirit is their destiny.
[11:11:50] They see Roshan's alive.
[11:11:52] All the goodies.
[11:11:53] They just ban a cheese refresher.
[11:11:56] They're not going to go straight into the pit though.
[11:11:59] I'm currently looking at a game where there are eight heroes with buyback.
[11:12:03] Clock and ringmaster spent there a couple of minutes ago, but this is potentially an 8v8 around the pit.
[11:12:09] There's a strength link for Hoker.
[11:12:11] And after this rush, there will be a strength link for the primal as well.
[11:12:16] Triple upgraded link, soon on the field for spirits.
[11:12:19] Aurora don't smoke. They're going to get scouted by this ward.
[11:12:23] Team spirits hear them coming.
[11:12:26] This primal's got 5k HP.
[11:12:28] Doesn't have a lot of health for each other.
[11:12:30] Oh, gets the tornado star on Storm. Hookshot from Mira.
[11:12:33] Hang on, Lightning has thrown in.
[11:12:36] Kind of using a lot here.
[11:12:40] BKB on the Storm Spirit, look at the scamp with the Sun Strike.
[11:12:44] High Grand Vision being dealt with, but Storm zips in.
[11:12:47] Koto, Lincoln spotting into the side device.
[11:12:50] Controlling with a bush lag, but a full staff back.
[11:12:52] So much poking.
[11:12:54] Can't commit on that with the solar guardian turn around all the BKBs are up
[11:12:59] perhaps not want to jump it
[11:13:02] Still regen in here as well
[11:13:04] Slow crawl back to full HP for the primal beast
[11:13:09] Finally go over to that bit of vision as well. So now put up the smoke and into reposition
[11:13:15] How do you take a fight now?
[11:13:17] Feels like you're the one that now have to you know get two rounds off in the phylax two storm pulls or something
[11:13:24] Zip in, force early BKBs, and you're scared you're going to get Lincoln spot
[11:13:31] into Scythe of Eyes, the Fist of Blade, Bloodthorn.
[11:13:36] He could die pretty quickly. Collapse. Prime rocks in!
[11:13:43] Force him to go down a step back.
[11:13:45] Don't you some folks can't overreact to it here approaching the 60 minute walk to
[11:13:55] Roshan is all the rumbling outside his pit
[11:13:59] Not that long until he shifts homes and or if that's what team spirit are thinking about here is shoving out waves
[11:14:07] Start to set up on a different side
[11:14:10] As you know that Aurora can't go in and steal it
[11:14:12] The thing is, you rather force the fight while you have five acts into your outpost here if you're sparing.
[11:14:17] I don't think you really want to let this switch sides for free. You can't force the objective though.
[11:14:22] And you have no smoke, so your options are very limited here.
[11:14:26] You're pretty much limited to dangle Larl in front.
[11:14:29] Trying to keep giving vision with forged spirits and daggers.
[11:14:33] When the cutters died on the Larl and Voker, he'd give me Ant Box to get away from Dawnbreaker.
[11:14:38] I can't commit like that anymore.
[11:14:40] You're lucky I haven't a Lincoln spot on Nightfall.
[11:14:42] I mean it's just dropped in as well, but Aurora have already had a reset back to that high ground.
[11:14:46] It's a local gunsaw guardian, it's up again in 50 seconds.
[11:14:50] But there's a lot of cutting in this line of double box force down now.
[11:14:55] This rock throw is super annoying.
[11:14:57] Like such low committal.
[11:15:02] A really tense situation around the pit.
[11:15:04] Oh yeah, neither team wants to be the first to draw.
[11:15:09] A true standoff here where you're just trying to bait the other team into a little bit of an over extension
[11:15:15] So you get that good fight because no neither initiation is reliable
[11:15:20] Finally smoke comes out for spirit and they get one more back and they're an instant pop it
[11:15:24] Try and get the fight while the roaches up here. It's gonna change sides
[11:15:27] Yeah, my spirit wanted to meet at high noon. Maybe that's part of the reason they're smoking
[11:15:32] They feel a war is gonna vacate this area and they're gonna try and catch them
[11:15:35] On the transfer across the map, it can sometimes be a nice play. Usually you go from the other side though, like they could have smoked to their triangle and met them when they went there.
[11:15:44] Now they're going to have to take the massive flank around though if they find Nightfall.
[11:15:47] They're really got Nightfall. They jump in from collapse. They go spike-load and a hex, catching in Voker.
[11:15:53] And Ranger turns on the lulz. We've never spent the damage on this.
[11:15:56] Oh great boss.
[11:15:57] They've saved him up as Law skips away with a refresher old speck.
[11:16:01] They're onto this ringmaster, sure, he'll give us a full kill.
[11:16:04] But he, uh, sent a buyback on the Stolesburg and Law got away from that.
[11:16:07] A sick box from not me.
[11:16:10] Continues to deliver with these mechanical plays.
[11:16:13] Completely bails Lawrata that situation. Nightfall had his number.
[11:16:17] So that is a Makoto buy going into this roach fight.
[11:16:23] No ringmaster though.
[11:16:24] Well, you have it in a second.
[11:16:26] Oh, that's true.
[11:16:26] Five guys back up.
[11:16:28] Oh, it's an L, yes.
[11:16:29] Hope game continues.
[11:16:30] In comes the pulverize.
[11:16:31] On the dawn, straight up, side the vice.
[11:16:34] Let's help this.
[11:16:35] Big old primals storms the zip with a vortex on him,
[11:16:37] collapsing focus for the bot end.
[11:16:40] Pies time to get into the Crozier to die to do something
[11:16:42] but dies anyway.
[11:16:44] Checks towards Aurora, though.
[11:16:46] His feelings is low.
[11:16:47] Dawnbreaker a little worse for wear.
[11:16:49] And nightfall, try not to life steal up, please.
[11:16:51] Four spirits.
[11:16:52] Yeah, back to full, no BKB though.
[11:16:55] Spirit would love to force something here with the BKBs on cooldown.
[11:16:59] The Tiffles are taking some damage in the meantime.
[11:17:02] And now you know the Makoto is a prime target.
[11:17:05] Spent the buyback, if you can kill him, you get that numbers advantage guaranteed.
[11:17:09] Can't believe they got that primal, that's a 5000 HP primal.
[11:17:12] Took 2400 damage from the Phoenix.
[11:17:15] Jeez, Sunray dealing 2000, that is the value of that hero right there in that fight.
[11:17:20] Look at this smoke. A bold smoke, no buyback on the storm.
[11:17:25] Mikoto, no BKB.
[11:17:28] He has to just go in.
[11:17:31] It's alright, oh look shot, it's round the ring master.
[11:17:34] Try and catch not me in the storm, looking for him as well, but there's a bot on himself.
[11:17:38] The solo guardian doesn't land.
[11:17:40] Perfectly kited. Team spirit, land to reset. Mirror down to Loll. Now the will of one to come in hypnotizing, catching the doorbreakers.
[11:17:47] No BKB, clapped down by the alchemist.
[11:17:49] Not me. He bamboozled him again, man.
[11:17:53] They're just getting baited by the clown.
[11:17:59] Did get the collapse by. I mean, that was pretty much guaranteed in the fight no matter what.
[11:18:03] But are you willing to buy Dawnbreaker here to contest this Roshan?
[11:18:08] It looks like Aurora just... said, no, we're done trying to salvage this situation.
[11:18:14] I don't think Spirit know it. They're thinking the fight's still coming,
[11:18:17] But Aurora, they've peaced out of there a long time ago, so...
[11:18:20] That's five minutes standoff, they want it to keep on continuing!
[11:18:22] I know.
[11:18:25] Into the roast pit now.
[11:18:27] Finally, yet, the big man.
[11:18:31] These box thieves have become really annoying.
[11:18:33] They just don't have enough nullifier carriers, and they have no natural dispel in the lineup.
[11:18:38] So you just gotta power through them.
[11:18:41] See who takes what here.
[11:18:42] Collapses gets an Aegis for his, uh...
[11:18:45] Bioback middle.
[11:18:46] For him, it's for him.
[11:18:47] So we're fresher sharp to but
[11:18:50] We can get this refresher sharp to when you can give it to not me I guess
[11:18:55] What if full boxes?
[11:18:57] What's better than two sponsored by DHL? That's right good shout out Gary?
[11:19:02] Company man through and through now they're running a high ground
[11:19:07] You can't buy back door in the 20 seconds left. You gotta wait and see what comes
[11:19:11] Farah realizing I don't want to go rushing up to this
[11:19:15] Last now, he on disc cheese on the ringmaster, so he's got tools to protect himself.
[11:19:23] That's a big A on disc.
[11:19:24] Whenever you can get A on disc on these save heroes on the late game, it's such a big deal
[11:19:29] to stall the fight.
[11:19:30] We did see another axe pool.
[11:19:32] Call that one to the invoker there.
[11:19:35] What?
[11:19:36] Did it?
[11:19:37] Wait, what?
[11:19:39] Hmm.
[11:19:41] Wait, what?
[11:19:44] huh doesn't show him as having an eggs but it shows him as having been pooled
[11:19:50] in eggs maybe just a visual bug quick Gary out of his net worth telling
[11:19:55] for that yeah he does have it yeah just visual bug I guess
[11:20:02] Interesting, all he's thought they knew in the world of Dota 2
[11:20:08] I just can't fit a little blue on the con
[11:20:11] Too rich for a solid good
[11:20:14] He's got 41,000 net worth, so he's up there
[11:20:23] Spiriting themselves. Unless he doesn't know when he'll pull it. Oh, he's not taking the option yet. Yeah, he just doesn't
[11:20:32] But that would be really weirdly
[11:20:36] Because he's taken option one for Charlotte with a ghost walk right, but he hasn't selected the agony and scepter option
[11:20:44] Right so we're sure I don't know if there's a big cat lesson we'll know for sure
[11:20:54] It's just but wait just bought an axe himself
[11:20:56] Am I losing my life?
[11:20:58] What the hell is going on?
[11:21:00] He just bought an axe, full axe blessing.
[11:21:02] What the hell is going on?
[11:21:04] Are you sure the invoker got pulled an axe?
[11:21:06] Yeah!
[11:21:08] Mira's gonna hookshot back tonight for...
[11:21:10] off your box.
[11:21:12] I mean it's in the log he has two axe pulled,
[11:21:14] and no one else on the other team has a pulled axe.
[11:21:16] It's only the frownies.
[11:21:18] Wait, so he's gonna eat this?
[11:21:20] Yeah, this is granted for the log.
[11:21:22] Is it like a bug? It bugged out.
[11:21:24] It must have disappeared, so it came at him but it didn't.
[11:21:28] Yeah, because now he takes the sun.
[11:21:30] Wild.
[11:21:32] So they just lost an axe?
[11:21:34] Yeah, they just lost an axe.
[11:21:36] Must be some bug with the pooling.
[11:21:38] Huh.
[11:21:40] Yeah, because right now your Toro has two axe pool.
[11:21:43] We just saw the invoker eat his.
[11:21:45] Hoodwing does not have one.
[11:21:47] The ringmaster is sitting on his.
[11:21:49] But the knocking refund.
[11:21:51] Two eggs pool with only one pool bag showing. Yeah, so it's just fizzle
[11:21:56] Unbelievable
[11:21:57] Damn
[11:21:58] Infinite money glitch. What if you just kept pulling?
[11:22:02] Well, I get all the stacks. Yeah
[11:22:04] Did you get a bonus attack damage? You get infinite bonus attack damage. Let's just sit here and farm for another 8 minutes
[11:22:09] I wonder if that's only in bloke if that works on because he's got to make a choice
[11:22:12] Yeah, it's probably it's probably that like it doesn't know which one to give and we're selling so fizzles
[11:22:16] Either way more important things to talk about we are in tier 5 neutral item time
[11:22:19] Oh hell yeah, and we get a harmonizer on the invoker. What a cool item
[11:22:25] So you get mana cost reduction and spell amp
[11:22:29] I'm also not a little down. Yeah, he has a lot to work with so could potentially be a lot of spelling up here
[11:22:36] I'll just with the witch pain the evolved one
[11:22:40] Pre-instincts nice stats for him. No dispell always valuable and have you get this storm when he's not got BKB going?
[11:22:48] A lot of damage from him.
[11:22:51] Minotaur on pretty valuable for CLABS and needs more T-Buff, and you need Stygian for Nightfall.
[11:22:56] What he would prefer, he got Lightsteal off of it as well.
[11:22:59] Still looking for a bunch of these Turbys on the side of Aurora though.
[11:23:02] And that one's on the high ground defending.
[11:23:06] Our Barbarians are at the gate.
[11:23:10] All three lanes trending towards Diabase, the Spirit have set up this map beautifully to push high ground.
[11:23:17] got the primals scary dude he's got 6000 HP he got fleet put it off the horn so he
[11:23:23] can sell his boots and still be pretty fast which is nice for the hero it's got
[11:23:27] the the spells deal off the bloodstone double debuff immunity
[11:23:36] I guess minutes are on techlies you go from you close enough
[11:23:42] Alright, Valkyrie just got to play out the map.
[11:23:44] Just try to have that top lane, be super annoying.
[11:23:49] I wonder how much spelling if you can get on it over?
[11:23:52] How many spells can you put on?
[11:23:56] That's about the same time, right?
[11:23:58] Yeah. Up to 10.
[11:24:00] So you put 9 on cooldown and then cast a meteor and you're getting 45% extra spelling?
[11:24:06] What? That doesn't sound good.
[11:24:09] What about your overwhelming blink damage?
[11:24:14] Just slown onto stuff under half her health?
[11:24:16] That is a very overwhelming blink.
[11:24:23] I'm just going to send Aurora into meltdown.
[11:24:26] I'm trying to hold onto their ancient theory of sending out the scouting party of the necro-warriors and archers.
[11:24:34] What are they called now?
[11:24:35] Sorry, demonic warriors and archers.
[11:24:38] the one that doesn't exist in the old school block of chiefs for the McMaster.
[11:24:42] The anti-clownish antics continue here.
[11:24:45] Lovely.
[11:24:46] Double-stitching for a war.
[11:24:50] There's a lot of physical burst damage coming out.
[11:24:52] They can connect with the Donnie and the Winter mixture here.
[11:24:56] And we're back into a situation where 30 seconds will have 10 buybacks.
[11:25:01] Oh yeah, it's coming.
[11:25:04] The Unicycle.
[11:25:07] They're you to cycle whatever when he rings his bell
[11:25:11] On his way to up you cycling mindful starts towards it the blank
[11:25:17] Storm spirits it's raining onto this alchemist. He stole not a fine half moon back
[11:25:21] He's half HP
[11:25:23] DKB's and box though as a will of one the drags in the clock don't break has to break free but mirror
[11:25:27] He's getting pummeled in comes the primal beast for the stupid over some race causing issues for spirit
[11:25:32] They have held my full back and it's been rangers
[11:25:34] Why wouldn't he box and find the jump?
[11:25:36] The same from Spiritus, keep them going!
[11:25:38] Collapse can go in again!
[11:25:40] On-slaught on the other side.
[11:25:42] Otherwise, doesn't want to go deep as the clockwork bought back.
[11:25:46] He quad-boxed there, that was a refresher on not me.
[11:25:49] Double-boxed, the first one got nullified,
[11:25:52] and then he double-boxed, collapsed under the Supernova Sunray.
[11:25:55] Just taint everything.
[11:25:59] No buybacks out of calls, only the clockwork spends his.
[11:26:03] Give me more nullifiers this game's your war.
[11:26:06] Somebody has to buy one. I don't even care who.
[11:26:08] Nullifier, clockwork, whatever the hell it is.
[11:26:11] Phoenix, where's 4,000 gold?
[11:26:13] Get nullifiers.
[11:26:15] Need as many as you can get.
[11:26:17] Stay on this. There's boxes.
[11:26:19] There's a Wind Waker. Unruh.
[11:26:21] Spirit, may I go foot forward?
[11:26:23] I'll keep this one moment to strike.
[11:26:26] Might be enough to go higher on PKBs on cooldown. All three for Aurora.
[11:26:29] And they only have one supernova off their refresh.
[11:26:32] Roxbro connects in the back on Windranger,
[11:26:34] they'll vortex his creep wave, in comes the Primal though,
[11:26:37] hext up immediately, doesn't get the catch, but McGovernor Storm is dead.
[11:26:40] Has to buy back, has to store, but they're both being pummeled.
[11:26:43] Cleared out quickly, Aurora lose two cores.
[11:26:46] The box and the Primal let them skip away from danger now and spirit again.
[11:26:50] The immediate jump, the collapse onto enemies, that kills them the reset.
[11:26:54] He's in again!
[11:26:55] Collapse has got BKB in 5 seconds, he's got a fresh chance to play with as well!
[11:27:06] Storm with the help of the Solar Guard in trying on this Alchemist, but there's a
[11:27:09] Cyclone in the sky!
[11:27:10] BKB out!
[11:27:11] The Altorone in a box comes in as well!
[11:27:13] He can get out of there!
[11:27:15] Stormbreak isn't gonna back away!
[11:27:16] He's gonna have a landing!
[11:27:17] It's already finally falling!
[11:27:18] Collapse gonna get Vortex in as well, but another tornado!
[11:27:19] Lars has another round of spells to deal with this Windranger!
[11:27:20] in as well, but another tornado, Lars, another round of spells to deal with this Windranger,
[11:27:24] Makona's being to the back, Makona's forward, and the ice wall, while Collapse goes into
[11:27:28] the back, on the Windranger, he'll pummel him down, finds another takedown, and his
[11:27:33] tribal base is unstoppable.
[11:27:34] Dronora, hiding in their fountain now.
[11:27:38] I don't understand how Spirit are still liable to these heroes, but they're gonna push the
[11:27:43] issue, Yatoro buys back, buys a Desolator, he wants to end this game right here, right
[11:27:47] Now, Storm with the dieback gives you the opening.
[11:27:51] Two down.
[11:27:52] Calvary in the back, collapse can.
[11:27:54] Returns from the grave, and Yatora with the back of Nightfall, the damage!
[11:27:58] When Ranger though, life fills back up and gets to Fountain!
[11:28:01] The Alchemist goes on the Phoenix, kills off Kiori!
[11:28:03] And in the midst of this, WS trying to go on before!
[11:28:06] The Dawnbreaker getting destroyed though!
[11:28:08] The damage on Yatora looked good, but he's in Cyclone again!
[11:28:11] And in comes the Primal Beast!
[11:28:13] Oh, he's too good!
[11:28:14] A double kill by Collapse and GG Cole!
[11:28:18] Half-mercy.
[11:28:20] Where's the humanity, Gary? They have families.
[11:28:23] He just trampled all over him.
[11:28:27] Put back down this sedimentary rock.
[11:28:29] Turn into fossils.
[11:28:30] The Collapse tribal base is monstrous!
[11:28:34] God damn that.
[11:28:36] This guy, he has...
[11:28:38] He has a good shot at being the greatest off-laner of all time.
[11:28:41] He just continues to add to his resume with these theories, man. Just a disgusting performance from him.
[11:28:46] Enabled by this Yatoro Alchemist for sure. There's always an asterisk on it when you get that AXE pull and your game looks vastly different.
[11:28:52] But boy, did he deliver those late games. Like, just so many entries, exits, re-entries, re-goes.
[11:28:57] He has to wade through so many PKBs, so many of these focus fires are going on the primal.
[11:29:01] They're not going out. They're not going on invokers. They're trying to deal with the 6KHP primal and they can't.
[11:29:05] Such a menace on the back line.
[11:29:08] I'm glad that VP is the ringmaster, honestly.
[11:29:12] There's so many boxes.
[11:29:14] That one-fight quad box saved so many clutch saves
[11:29:17] that stalled out these BKBs.
[11:29:19] We were asking where the BKB answer's going to come from.
[11:29:21] It was the clown all along.
[11:29:23] So many things went right for Aurora earlier on as well,
[11:29:25] like Lull, his laning stage, missing up a little bit.
[11:29:28] Yep, did get killed off in a solo kill.
[11:29:30] Scaling was a big question as well for Team Spirit,
[11:29:33] but they pulled it out in the end, taking the series
[11:29:35] and moving on forward.
[11:29:37] Ladies and gentlemen, Team Spirit Dotto at its finest!
[11:29:46] It's that time of the year, Lacan.
[11:29:49] It is.
[11:29:50] It's like clockwork, my friend.
[11:29:51] Not like this clockwork.
[11:29:52] Not like this clockwork.
[11:29:53] It's 20 deaths.
[11:29:54] But, yep, this time of the year, pre-EWC, pre-TI, you know this team is gonna ramp up and they're
[11:30:01] gonna do whatever it takes, whatever role swap player they need to do, coach swap, they're
[11:30:06] We're going to find a way because the core of the team, the spirit of these guys, they're
[11:30:11] always within them, I would say.
[11:30:13] It's just the same style of Dota, ever since this team has been formed.
[11:30:17] One of the most, if not the most, resilient team in Dota when it comes down to clutching
[11:30:21] the game, spell casting, when it really matters.
[11:30:24] This game was such a treat to watch.
[11:30:26] I think Aurora also played a really nice game, especially in that early game, going back
[11:30:31] and forth but what really stood out to me entertainment lives in this game was
[11:30:37] that at some point every single player on Team Spirit was the one to clutch a
[11:30:42] moment or two. They were the reason why they were able to turn over in a fight.
[11:30:46] Yes we talked about collapse, it was kind of easy to know how amazing it is but the
[11:30:50] excellent play from you and not me throughout the entire game was there
[11:30:54] Laurel making these clutch plays, Yatoro not giving away any death at the
[11:30:59] Yeah, when it comes to game three upper bracket semi finals come back you come back up for a brutal loss in game two
[11:31:09] You got to think inside the box guys
[11:31:12] You don't want to think outside you want to think you want to think inside. Yeah, what happened?
[11:31:16] Within your bounds
[11:31:18] Within your bad now just within the ringmaster box. You know you got two boxes with the ice
[11:31:22] He literally said Yachter. Oh, you're not buying me an axe. I'm gonna buy myself an axe
[11:31:26] Not me said I'll do it myself. I I know no snaps it. Yes, exactly
[11:31:32] And they bought nullifier to remove the box
[11:31:35] But then they just BKB'd so that you could then cast the box on them. I mean, I don't know if I was not if I'm nightfall that game
[11:31:43] That would just be so frustrating because like you have to kill somebody with focus fire in your BKB duration
[11:31:49] Otherwise, we saw the clips what happens when collapse gets to go back on you re-initiate the fight when you don't have BKB
[11:31:56] anymore you're just gonna die full to zero I also I know a lot of people are
[11:32:00] already hyping up the primal beast that game inspired me to go play primal
[11:32:04] beast because I've I've enjoyed primal beast in the past I thought the BKB
[11:32:07] refresher nerf was gonna be too big of a nerf to that heroes like game but the
[11:32:11] Corolla's Crozier that that that looks really fun it does and he was having a
[11:32:16] great time and what you were talking about about going in and out that really
[11:32:19] was the key for team spirit in this game because with the changes to late game
[11:32:24] Refresher, nobody having two BKBs. The team that has more disengage and more stuns has much more maneuverability in the late game
[11:32:31] And we saw that here
[11:32:33] Yeah, we definitely did and I liked the way that they were
[11:32:36] Hiding the fights as well. And I think we got to mention Laura as well and talk about that
[11:32:41] He did not have a good first like seven to ten minutes because he got game
[11:32:46] He got rotated on and then he was all over the place. He died basically twice in his 60 70
[11:32:53] 67 minute game and six and then they were still able to like get a lot of
[11:33:00] stuff that he was very annoying on the other side of the map controlling
[11:33:04] every single fight every single time they try to get an initiation going
[11:33:07] there's gonna be a tornado and some of these late game fights it's just pure
[11:33:11] chaos you have Primal Beast with the big AOE he was given Agadam scepter so his
[11:33:16] uproar it goes everywhere and deafening AOE blast on top of that Shiva's guard
[11:33:21] The three meteors coming out it's just so difficult to engage into some of these fights because again
[11:33:27] You have one BKB. You can't refresh it. Yeah
[11:33:30] I mean so many heroes have gotten like a change in identity since 7.41 and in the fact that primal he took the
[11:33:36] Trample talent. I don't think I've seen the slow resistance. Yeah
[11:33:39] I don't think I've seen anyone not take the pulverized duration talent like ever so that was really cool
[11:33:45] He's literally a frickin race car with that post the crows because there there was nothing more fun in Dota
[11:33:49] at least for me, then running really fast,
[11:33:52] and he's also killing while he's doing it.
[11:33:53] You're a big fan of Harry Windranger.
[11:33:55] No, she's not, I mean, she technically can run
[11:33:57] and kill people at the same time, but.
[11:33:59] She's racecar-ing her way to an Olin 5-4 right now.
[11:34:01] She got out-racecar-ed by the primal running her over.
[11:34:04] It doesn't hit the same way.
[11:34:05] It does not.
[11:34:06] It's for winner.
[11:34:07] Bloodseeker, low.
[11:34:08] Bloodseeker, that's very satisfying.
[11:34:09] Sure.
[11:34:10] Spearbreaker, pretty satisfying.
[11:34:11] Yeah.
[11:34:12] Windranger, I don't know.
[11:34:13] It doesn't feel like the true race car.
[11:34:15] She is on a very downward structure right now
[11:34:18] in this tournament.
[11:34:18] lost I believe the last five games that she's been picked as a carry. Gee, I wonder why.
[11:34:23] It's a variety of teams picking it. It's not just like Mickey dropping down the average
[11:34:27] or anything. I'm not feeling it. Ever since the patch dropped, I was not feeling this
[11:34:32] hero. She's fallen off for sure. Like she didn't get either of her facets. So she's
[11:34:38] just what she was pre-faceted and a lot of heroes got to keep theirs. But she did look
[11:34:42] good in this game. She got it. It's level 25. There you go. There are moments where Nightfall
[11:34:47] was clicking the thing is not me with his four escape acts at the end with his
[11:34:51] refresher orb yeah such a thorn in his side like what can you do if you're a
[11:34:55] single target hero and you've got someone who has four single target
[11:34:59] counters to you you know if I won okay and BKB comes up BKB then you've got
[11:35:03] another then wait you've got a refresher here comes another it was tough for
[11:35:07] nightfall in this one and now we get to put another one of not many signatures
[11:35:12] because we've been very very proud of his rubik performance I think ringmaster
[11:35:16] gets to be put in the nominee pantheon of heroes you need to be worried about.
[11:35:20] Yeah, absolutely. I mean Team Spirit, they were, I, we all said they were the team to beat coming
[11:35:24] into this series, but I was also impressed with Aurora, I think, given the group stage that
[11:35:29] they had. They put on quite a show for that one. And I mean, this is crunch time for the tournament.
[11:35:34] The games are getting higher and higher quality as we go. And I think that was just a small taste
[11:35:38] of what we're going to see, you know? Because that gives us a top three minimum placement for
[11:35:44] team spirit and that means that I also get a chance to speak to collapse what
[11:35:50] up collapse we had a lot of fun watching your prime movies flex on them
[11:35:55] that was a very creative item build you mind walking us through your decisions
[11:36:01] to take the talents that you did and then get that closure item
[11:36:07] hello I'm just I was thinking like I need some build like an overthrow and
[11:36:14] I have so much to do, so I just buy the new Ghost, then I buy Blastone, like the same stuff
[11:36:23] we did in Overthrow, just buy some stuff to kill them, and kill them.
[11:36:27] That has been your build practice for a long time, right?
[11:36:31] You've always been an overthrow item finder, right?
[11:36:35] Yeah, yeah, I mean it's like, it's easy for me to play, like when I have so much gold,
[11:36:43] It's easy for me to play in late game because I always know what I want to buy, what I need to buy, so just overthrow Praxis.
[11:36:52] How much does Milan approve of that? Because I know that sometimes he's proposing you ideas.
[11:36:57] We asked you like a week ago about the Legion Commander idea that he had.
[11:37:01] Did you test it at all in overthrow or just went in cold in that one game?
[11:37:06] I don't know, I don't care what he's saying.
[11:37:13] But he's bringing you to victory!
[11:37:17] You guys are doing so well because of him, right?
[11:37:20] Yeah, yeah, we support him, we listen to him, but sometimes we just...
[11:37:30] He overcuts!
[11:37:31] Fall the Rose, it's boring to fall the Rose so we just don't care, we don't listen to him.
[11:37:36] We have known you to be quite the rule breaker Collapse and you do well with it.
[11:37:40] I got AFI with the question for you as well.
[11:37:42] Hey Collapse, I was wondering what your opinion is on Mars at the moment because this hero,
[11:37:49] it feels like it's so much weaker than before, talk to me about it.
[11:37:53] I don't know if this hero even exists right now, I don't know because it's like so garbage
[11:38:02] hero.
[11:38:03] I'm real to be honest, it's like every hit button is so weak and you need to like time
[11:38:10] it so well, like press it so well because you're spouse, like they won't matter much
[11:38:20] But if you press them like good, probably like can 50-50 the game, not even win.
[11:38:28] And if you press as well, it's horrible so just like, instead of different because this hero is like, super weak right now.
[11:38:36] That sucks to hear. And what do you need? Do you think to make it good?
[11:38:39] Do you need like a really strong combo or do you need the enemy carry to be ranged?
[11:38:44] No, I think this hero needs some scale in white game, I mean it's like, if they put on a
[11:38:55] L25 talent that Arena goes for Mickey B, it could be like good.
[11:39:02] Like, the fresh breath for Zero.
[11:39:06] Okay, so what do you think are the strongest offlaners right now to play?
[11:39:10] Like the ones that feel good, no matter what?
[11:39:13] I don't really know, because right now there are many of the heroes in the pool and every
[11:39:25] team is playing their pool, so some pick teams, some pick Vargo, some pick Centaur, Tide,
[11:39:33] Androvark, too.
[11:39:34] It's a lot of heroes, but I'm not sure if any of this is Super Ember, it's uncomfortable.
[11:39:40] I see, thank you.
[11:39:42] So just depends on the team, yeah.
[11:39:45] And for your team, I was wondering if you could maybe give some shoutouts to not me,
[11:39:49] because he's not on bootcamp with you guys.
[11:39:51] He looks sad in his dark room by himself, but he was doing so good at that game, right?
[11:39:58] Bro, I can show you.
[11:39:59] Oh?
[11:40:00] Let's get it now.
[11:40:01] Wait, he is with you guys?
[11:40:03] No, you see that white camera?
[11:40:07] That white small camera.
[11:40:08] Oh yeah, I do see it.
[11:40:10] Yeah.
[11:40:11] He's watching like he's looking at us almost every day screaming some stuff
[11:40:18] I don't know this guy's crazy
[11:40:21] He's just staring at us
[11:40:27] Wait, how does he prove it? Does he say like yo collapse I saw you eating chips the other day? I mean sometime you hear like some
[11:40:36] like
[11:40:38] Silent wow
[11:40:40] Someone is giggling or doing some stuff and it turns around and he's like blowing out
[11:40:49] And he's screaming like random words just to scare someone. It's so weird actually
[11:40:55] Sounds to me like you fit in great with your team
[11:40:58] Yeah, it's true. So everyone was so cringe and weird guys
[11:41:04] Well the weirdness brings you victory's collapse congratulations on
[11:41:08] yet again making it to another top three of a dream league and looking forward to
[11:41:13] how the next few days go thank you thank you catch you later it's really fine
[11:41:26] he knows when you've been naughty he knows when you've been nice it's random
[11:41:31] words and laughs and trying to scare people this is this guy's probably like
[11:41:35] Gigatroll can't wait to have him on an interview for real. Yeah, we were we were hoping to his English isn't great
[11:41:42] And so maybe he's a little bit shy, but he did do an interview on one of the secondary stream
[11:41:46] So I know that he at least understands and speaks English
[11:41:50] But I imagine that the words that he's screaming to his other spirit teammates probably not
[11:41:56] Not on the broadcast kind of thing. Yeah, probably not broadcast friendly, but also
[11:42:01] Probably gonna be much more friendly or once he joins them
[11:42:04] You know all these online gamers online e-athletes. They love to bark but the ones they get into the same room
[11:42:11] They're a very thing
[11:42:13] Yeah, I don't know like the
[11:42:16] That doesn't work as well
[11:42:20] You know buying with that one little camp yeah, it's much better. Yeah, I do love that. They found a way to
[11:42:28] to make them feel together, even if they're not all together.
[11:42:32] I think that speaks a lot about the culture of Team Spirit.
[11:42:35] We talk about this team and how they can influence whatever
[11:42:39] new player comes.
[11:42:40] And they just seem to like to create a wholesome environment.
[11:42:43] They don't want them to feel left out of the boot camp,
[11:42:45] so they install a little robot camera thing.
[11:42:47] And he gets to chuckle and pull pranks
[11:42:49] and feel like part of the family.
[11:42:51] Part of the family.
[11:42:52] I'm curious if this was also a last minute thing,
[11:42:54] because I'm pretty sure when we saw Collapsus
[11:42:55] during the group stage, I remember seeing him drinking out of his pitcher in his room.
[11:42:59] Maybe they bootcamped like halfway through the event, they're like,
[11:43:01] oh, we're actually doing pretty good.
[11:43:03] Maybe we should take this seriously.
[11:43:05] And it's working out for them.
[11:43:07] They definitely upgraded.
[11:43:09] You could see this in game three again, clutching it out and no better than game three.
[11:43:14] Especially when they start losing, absolutely.
[11:43:17] Take Dota from Spirit.
[11:43:18] That's the type of Spirit Dota.
[11:43:20] And it brings them to an upper bracket final.
[11:43:23] Let's take a look at where we are right now in Dream League season 29.
[11:43:28] These were all of our upper bracket teams, the ones that excelled in the group stage,
[11:43:33] but we have now whittled it down to just two.
[11:43:35] Earlier today, Falcons fell to Parry Vision in a three game series,
[11:43:40] and you just saw Aurora succumb to Team Spirit,
[11:43:43] which now has Parry Vision and Team Spirit vying for a slot in Grand Finals.
[11:43:48] But it's not all over for Falcons and Aurora,
[11:43:51] Now they get to go down to the lower bracket, which is full of some sharks
[11:43:55] First series of the day was Navi versus playtime
[11:43:58] This one you see has two teams that do not have the EWC icon next to their names and that's because
[11:44:06] One of them qualifies we don't know which yet if Navi had won that series then they would be qualified
[11:44:11] But playtime just because they won that one doesn't mean anything quite yet
[11:44:15] If playtime can beat the Betboom team tomorrow, well then, it's unfortunate news for Navi
[11:44:21] as they will no longer be directly invited to EWC. They can still qualify, 24 teams will be going in total.
[11:44:27] But playtime eagerly, desperately want that slot FAM.
[11:44:32] Based off of today's performance, I think the Betboom team better be shaking their boots.
[11:44:36] They're a wildcard. I mean, they bring a style of Dota that maybe EU teams are not so used to.
[11:44:42] But now he's definitely hitting a bedboomer.
[11:44:45] Like you guys have to win this for us.
[11:44:47] Our friends, our brothers, you must defeat them.
[11:44:50] But it's going to be tough.
[11:44:52] Like, playtime are a team that still have more to show.
[11:44:55] And today they busted on you stuff like that Darkseer, but I'm dying.
[11:44:59] They probably got more in the pocket.
[11:45:01] Tricks up their sleeve for days.
[11:45:03] And maybe those tricks surprised some of our panelists.
[11:45:07] Let's take a look at the checks predictions for our last few days of a dream league
[11:45:13] Oh wait, there were actually more play timers than I thought SVG and Garroth did a little play timing of their own
[11:45:20] Now Jenkins and I are lost maxing but Brian you claim that you would have thought that playtime was winning
[11:45:26] Yeah, I I did not properly lost max their deal hmm as I it's I thought Navi was less
[11:45:34] powerful than their
[11:45:36] Record in the group stage indicated sure and playtime
[11:45:39] I think their style is very interesting unique and fun to watch and I'm also becoming and quickly a big fan of wits as a
[11:45:47] Caretta player very got his own flier with the necro carry especially so it's very very exciting to see a new talent emerge
[11:45:54] I'm coming for you Neil and now
[11:45:56] Things are getting a little
[11:46:00] Well, well, well if you're curious getting closer and closer and why the
[11:46:06] The first and second is distributed this way, it's because technically Lacoste is considered a co-host for this event.
[11:46:11] Yep, which is one of the emo's not emo's, but core controls for Dream League.
[11:46:15] And as a result, you're given a power ranking buff whenever it's a tie.
[11:46:21] So...
[11:46:22] That's tough for me.
[11:46:23] It is tough.
[11:46:24] I messed up today, I initially put playtime and then it changed it to Navi, because I saw that most people were favorite Navi and I was like...
[11:46:31] No hesitation.
[11:46:32] Yeah, I should have trusted my gut as well.
[11:46:34] I was a little afraid to go with them because they were also hit or miss
[11:46:38] But you know who is always the biggest hit or miss? Navi. They just always find a way unfortunately
[11:46:44] But I also believe in Falcons today and they did crumble in that game three
[11:46:50] They had the lead and then par vision just said nope
[11:46:53] That's how competitive things are now at this stage of the tournament things are neck-and-neck right now
[11:46:57] It's also neck-and-neck in terms of the points to the eSports World Cup
[11:47:01] There's only one slot available, and you see Playtime and Navi standing side by side, looking for an opportunity to claim that spot.
[11:47:12] And as you heard, if Playtime are able to beat Betboom Team tomorrow, then they get the final invite, and Navi do not get the invite.
[11:47:21] But if they lose, then Navi can breathe a sigh of relief, as they will not have to go through qualifiers.
[11:47:27] Lot on the line, but when are we gonna have that series?
[11:47:31] I wonder, perhaps we can take a glance
[11:47:34] at tomorrow's days of games.
[11:47:37] Three more best of threes on Dream League season 29.
[11:47:41] A few more elimination series.
[11:47:43] Maybe even we find out who goes to the grand final.
[11:47:47] I actually don't know if we do that series tomorrow.
[11:47:49] We should do that series tomorrow.
[11:47:51] But I got the memory of Goldfish.
[11:47:53] Prove it to me.
[11:47:55] That's what happened today.
[11:47:57] Show me what happens tomorrow.
[11:47:59] Laura, help us out.
[11:48:00] Another telly dummy.
[11:48:01] Oh, look at all the larygoth reviews.
[11:48:02] Oh, yeah.
[11:48:03] Oh, my god.
[11:48:04] This is going to fall.
[11:48:06] So we don't get to find out the grand finalist yet.
[11:48:09] Instead, we get to find out our first contenders for, wait,
[11:48:13] what?
[11:48:15] That's extreme.
[11:48:16] They're back, baby.
[11:48:18] Extreme, they're still in.
[11:48:20] They're not eliminated.
[11:48:22] They're in this tournament, tsunami.
[11:48:24] Oh, OK.
[11:48:24] Tundra vs. Extreme Gaming, yep, that is correct, and whoever wins is going to be playing against Aurora.
[11:48:29] Yeah.
[11:48:30] Yesterday, Friday, you were playing, it was a long game.
[11:48:32] I'm cooked.
[11:48:33] I'm cooked in the head.
[11:48:34] I actually thought Tundra was out, I knew Extreme was still out, but I actually thought Tundra was out.
[11:48:38] The way they've been playing, both of these teams look like they're kind of eliminated from the tournament.
[11:48:43] They're still in, could still win it.
[11:48:44] No, Extreme was good yesterday, except for the faceless Void Chronos.
[11:48:48] Yeah, we ignore that.
[11:48:49] Yeah, Tundra are looking better too, they're waking up.
[11:48:51] And now only one of them can move forward in that lower bracket.
[11:48:54] And elsewhere, this is the series that...
[11:48:57] That's the series of the night.
[11:48:59] I mean, I see this...
[11:49:00] TBD team a lot, especially at the later portions of the tournament.
[11:49:04] But I never know who's on the team.
[11:49:05] They keep changing the roster.
[11:49:07] They get directly seated every single time.
[11:49:09] Yeah.
[11:49:09] Remember when we had those majors where, like,
[11:49:10] if you did well in the group stage, you get to go straight to semifinals?
[11:49:13] Yeah, that's one of those teams.
[11:49:15] TBD is that team.
[11:49:16] That was not it.
[11:49:17] I'm just busy watching the Largo copies.
[11:49:20] They're cute. They're adorable. They're good.
[11:49:23] Also, that green one is Dimpsy. Yesterday.
[11:49:26] Oh, you checked the names again?
[11:49:28] No, it's because you said purple and blue, but it's not purple. It's purple and green.
[11:49:32] I just, I didn't have Largo dressed as a teletubbie and my bingo card for Dream Leak Season 29.
[11:49:39] Full of surprises. We should make bingo cards for Dream Leak.
[11:49:43] I think Dreamleague Bingo would be a huge success.
[11:49:47] What would the free square be, Lacoste, for Dreamleague Bingo?
[11:49:51] What's guaranteed to happen to every single Dreamleague?
[11:49:54] I'm a and choosing one hero that he's going to be obsessed with.
[11:49:58] That's a good one. And who knows what it's going to be tomorrow?
[11:50:01] Will it be his Drowranger? Will it be his Faceless Void?
[11:50:04] There's only one way to find out and that's to tune in tomorrow for more Dreamleague Season 29.
[11:55:43] Oh, yeah.
[12:00:43] You got to breathe in, let it out, bump it in the heart
[12:01:13] Hometown, turning up your rockin' beat, beat, beat, beat
[12:02:43] I'm gonna rock your little sound
[12:02:45] Turn around and listen to what you play in your games
[12:02:49] You got to breathe in
[12:02:51] Let me out, I'm puttin' in my hometown
[12:02:54] Turnin' up and back to the beat
[12:02:56] I be, be, be
[12:03:13] Oh, my dear, there's something worth saving here.
[12:03:26] Oh, my love, if we just rise up.
[12:03:33] I'm staring at the sun.
[12:04:07] There's a real name I know, it's the real thing
[12:04:15] Oh my gosh, believe me, I am sincere
[12:04:23] When I say allow me to volunteer
[12:04:29] You're staring at the sun
[12:04:34] Five, four, three, two, one
[12:04:38] You shine a light
[12:04:40] It's the real thing, it's the real thing
[12:04:46] You shine a light, it's the real thing
[12:04:50] Oh, it's the real thing
[12:04:54] You shine a day, you shine a night
[12:04:58] You shine your eyes, you have a single way
[12:05:02] You shine the light, yeah it's the reason, yeah
[12:05:06] Oh, it's the reason, yeah it's the reason, yeah
[12:05:19] You shine the light
[12:05:21] You shine a light, and it's the real thing, yeah it's the real thing
[12:05:34] You shine a bright, yeah it's the real thing, oh it's the real thing
[12:05:42] You shine a light, you shine a light You shine a bright, you have to see the way
[12:05:52] You shine a light, yeah, it's the real thing, oh, it's the real thing
[12:06:58] I've been waiting a long time Just longing for a plan from you
[12:07:06] A chance to look in those big town eyes No telling what my heart could do
[12:07:15] When we met, I sure knew It felt as good as it could be
[12:07:24] In that moment though it felt so good, I wondered why you'd notice me, ooh
[12:07:34] If you gave me just a little time, it would sure eat my true mind
[12:07:42] Don't tell me, don't tell me that you don't feel the same inside
[12:07:51] Don't tell me, don't tell me who
[12:07:56] These are feelings that I ought to hide
[12:08:01] I don't care where you came from
[12:08:05] Just tell me where you wanna go
[12:08:10] If there's a chance to be together
[12:08:14] That's all I really need to know
[12:08:19] Is it real or make me believe that it keeps me thinking of you?
[12:08:28] If you've got time to walk with me, I'll show you how my heart is true.
[12:08:37] And here I stand, waiting for you.
[12:08:42] Tell me baby, what I gotta do.
[12:08:45] Don't tell me, don't tell me
[12:08:50] That you don't feel the same inside
[12:08:54] Don't tell me, don't tell me
[12:08:58] These are feelings that I've ordered high
[12:09:03] Don't tell me, don't tell me
[12:09:08] That you don't feel the same inside
[12:09:11] Don't tell me, don't tell me who
[12:09:16] These are pills that I bought her high
[12:09:41] I
[12:11:11] Thanks for taking me back to the place where we were taken by the forest
[12:11:18] I think it's all that you had
[12:11:21] I don't want to be a man
[12:11:24] I don't want to be a man
[12:11:29] I don't want to be a man
[12:11:33] I don't want to be a man
[12:12:07] Got a family to know for me
[12:12:13] Got people on killin' spray
[12:12:19] Got a 45 pointed edge on hay
[12:12:26] Got a reason to know me of her dad
[12:12:33] I
[12:13:03] I'm trying to save my soul So I'm shutting down, but I'm in a dame
[12:13:18] I'm a son of Satan, the devil churned
[12:13:26] An abomination running wild
[12:13:33] I'm covered in devils for my heart runs from my veins
[12:13:39] I hear the voice of God crying, shake, shake, shake
[12:14:44] You
[12:15:14] You and I got something together
[12:15:17] It's so hard to beat a feeling like this
[12:15:21] Yeah, the rush I get is on another level
[12:15:25] Coming round my head when I'm with you
[12:15:29] Gonna set it off and watch it shine
[12:15:32] Come on, let's chase that dream and put it on high
[12:15:36] Gonna lose myself and dance all night
[12:15:40] We're living on this night
[12:15:42] I'm just gonna put it in front
[12:15:46] You make me feel so alive
[12:15:50] Come on now, gotta get it
[12:15:54] You make me feel so fine
[12:15:57] Yeah, let me play that
[12:16:12] I just wanna live it now, it never is so hard to be a moment like this
[12:16:22] Get a punch, I get this on another level
[12:16:26] Going round and around, when I'm with you
[12:16:30] Gonna set it off and watch it shine
[12:16:33] Come on, let's change the dream and put it on line
[12:16:37] Gonna lose myself and dance out loud
[12:16:41] We're livin' on this fight
[12:16:48] You make me feel so alive
[12:16:51] Come on now, yeah, let's give it up
[12:16:55] You make me feel so alive
[12:16:59] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
[12:17:03] You make me feel so alive
[12:17:07] Come on now, yeah, let's give it up
[12:17:11] You make me feel so alive
[12:17:25] You make me, you make me, you make me feel so good
[12:17:28] You make me, you make me, you make me feel so...
[12:17:34] You make me feel so alive
[12:17:36] You make me feel so good
[12:17:38] Come on, now, yeah, let's do this
[12:17:41] You make me feel so alive
[12:17:45] You make me feel so good
[12:17:59] California dreaming
[12:18:01] Waiting on a feeling
[12:18:03] That I need all I got
[12:18:07] Everything I'm missing
[12:18:09] And even the distance, it's just me
[12:18:13] Oh, oh, oh, oh, wait
[12:18:15] Don't wanna wait
[12:18:17] No way
[12:18:19] Can't make me stay
[12:18:21] No, I'm
[12:18:23] I'm gonna find
[12:18:25] That place
[12:18:27] Take me away
[12:18:29] Let's go
[12:18:31] We can live that life
[12:18:33] Baby, it's simple
[12:18:35] If I lose my mind
[12:18:37] Take a deep look, leave it all behind
[12:18:41] And I'll meet you in the sweet sunshine
[12:18:51] In the sweet sunshine
[12:18:59] In the sweet sunshine
[12:19:02] Living for the moment
[12:19:04] All the roads are open, can't you see?
[12:19:08] Uh-oh, don't care where we're going
[12:19:12] We're just rollercoasterin' to the beat
[12:19:16] Uh-oh, wait, don't wanna wait
[12:19:20] No way, can't make me stay
[12:19:24] No, I'm, I'm gonna find
[12:19:28] That place, take me away
[12:19:32] Let's go, we can live that life, baby, it's simple
[12:19:38] It blows my mind, just take it deep talk
[12:19:42] Leave it all behind and I'll be true
[12:19:46] In the sweet sunshine
[12:19:54] In the sweet sunshine we'll sing
[12:20:02] In the sweet sunshine
[12:20:05] I don't wanna walk that way
[12:20:09] They're not gonna make me stay
[12:20:13] I don't wanna walk that way
[12:20:17] They're not gonna make me stay
[12:20:21] I know that we can live and die
[12:20:24] But it's simple
[12:20:26] It blows my mind
[12:20:28] Deep talk, leaving all behind
[12:20:32] And how we took, in the sweet sunshine
[12:20:42] In the sweet sunshine
[12:20:49] In the sweet sunshine
[12:20:58] I've got a feeling that's the reason that you walked into my life
[12:21:11] I can't play my stars on superstation cause you know I'm not the type
[12:21:19] I'm so wet just like you
[12:21:24] But I'm crazy but you're born
[12:21:26] Fears can't be caught just like a night
[12:21:30] Don't think I'm green
[12:21:32] I've been waiting for so long
[12:21:35] And in all of this you've gone through my mind
[12:21:39] There were some things
[12:21:41] But I just feel so right
[12:21:43] I think you know I can't be alone
[12:21:49] It's so easy love
[12:21:53] It's so easy love
[12:21:56] And I think you know it's so easy love
[12:22:00] Yeah, it's so easy love
[12:22:13] I
[12:22:43] I'm alone in your arms, and I still got to run
[12:22:48] But with some things that just feel so right
[12:22:52] You only can make me run
[12:22:58] It's not easy love
[12:23:02] It's not easy love
[12:23:05] And I think no
[12:23:07] It's not easy love
[12:24:40] Yes I know but you're trying to be more
[12:24:46] Yes I know but you're trying to be more
[12:24:52] This is my life, this is my life, this is how it's bound
[12:25:13] This is how magic, this is how it turns into
[12:25:19] It's time to lose control of everything
[12:25:25] Bring something like the world to me
[12:25:28] We just want to stay
[12:25:30] Here I am as you can
[12:25:32] Yes, I know but what you do
[12:25:35] Here I am as you can
[12:25:41] Yes, I know but what you do
[12:25:44] Here I am as you can
[12:27:19] I'm still the cheese water feeling
[12:27:22] When the morning comes
[12:27:26] Sun in my eyes while I'm dreaming
[12:27:29] About the way you make me laugh
[12:27:33] Blue, blue skies when I'm singing
[12:27:36] The one and only love
[12:27:40] And I don't do anything for you, my love
[12:27:47] Hold me till I'm gone
[12:27:54] Hold me till I'm gone
[12:27:57] Don't let me go, don't let me go
[12:28:01] Hold me till I'm gone
[12:28:05] Hold me till I'm gone
[12:28:08] Hold me till I'm gone
[12:28:11] Don't let me go, don't let me go
[12:28:17] Restin' if the wind is callin'
[12:28:20] Cause I'm hopin' it's you
[12:28:24] Needless to say I'm the foy
[12:28:27] And you don't have a clue
[12:28:31] Sun and rays when I'm gettin' in
[12:28:34] But the way you make me laugh
[12:28:38] The blue skies when I'm singin'
[12:28:41] The one I wanna love
[12:28:47] Hold me till I'm gone Hold me till I'm gone
[12:29:07] Pour me a chocolate bar, don't let me go, don't let me go
[12:29:14] Pour me to the moon and moon Pour me to love, don't let me hear
[12:29:21] Pour me a chocolate bar, don't let me go. Don't let me go, don't let me go
[12:29:33] Don't let me go
[12:29:37] This is like the perfect day to catch the sun and dance away.
[12:30:06] Oh, my friends right by my side
[12:30:11] They're lighting up their darkest night
[12:30:16] Now they play our favorite song
[12:30:21] Everybody sing along
[12:30:26] Listen, look, it makes me smile
[12:30:31] Makes me smile
[12:30:34] My friends are dropping by
[12:30:39] I want them ready to strike
[12:30:44] This is a good time, good time
[12:30:46] I'm feeling fine
[12:30:49] Music keeps moving on right, on right
[12:30:54] Oh, just until the morning light
[12:30:57] No more in the light
[12:30:59] Underneath the finest sky, the sky
[12:31:04] Like you see it in your eyes
[12:31:09] The sunlight makes me smile
[12:31:14] My friends are dropping by
[12:31:19] No one will break my stride
[12:31:24] It's a good time, I'm feeling fine
[12:31:27] I'm feeling fine
[12:31:29] The sunlight makes me smile
[12:31:34] My friends are dropping by
[12:31:39] I'm on the way to break my stride
[12:31:43] It's just a tie, a tie
[12:31:46] I'm feeling fine, feeling fine
[12:31:49] The sun makes me smile
[12:32:22] What you need is love and understanding.
[12:32:51] And a heart whose love is true
[12:32:55] Deep down there's only one companion
[12:32:58] Who's there for you when you need him to be
[12:33:03] Your heart was broken in a thousand pieces
[12:33:07] So much pain that you can do
[12:33:11] Is there's a man who's your salvation
[12:33:15] Just ask yourself, am I ready for you?
[12:33:21] 100% now, up and down
[12:33:26] Yes and go, as wide awake
[12:33:31] I'm ready to move in
[12:33:33] 100% now